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| omeow | imbrandon_, please remake your konversation build, you caught just the wrong source, the current build crashes on startup. | 12:19 |
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| _Sime | imbrandon_: I've updated the Sime kio patches. -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDEMedia | 12:38 |
| _Sime | imbrandon_: I hope I didn't screw up the diffs.... but it should work better now. | 12:38 |
| omeow | _Sime, did you knew about this issue? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131197 | 12:43 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 131197 in xinerama "KDM starts with two screens, logging in disables one screen and loses window settings" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:43 |
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| _Sime | omeow: nvidia twinview isn't supported in guidance, and that is the end of the story until I or someone else implements and tests twinview support. | 12:52 |
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| _Sime|Zzz | time for sleep | 12:52 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | bddebian: heya | 01:13 |
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| Tonio_ | danimo: ping ? | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I just noticed a VERY nasty bug, but that may require someone to confirm :) | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: ping ? | 01:15 |
| danimo | Tonio_: pong! | 01:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: lucky you, I was about to go to bed :) | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: hey :) | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | okay let's go quick | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | can you insert a dvd or audio cd and tell me what happens | 01:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: ah, I had that today... nothing | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | here, nothing happens, no icon on the desktop | 01:16 |
| bddebian | Hi Tonio_ | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | no window to prompt me for action | 01:16 |
| danimo | right | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | that critical issue | 01:17 |
| danimo | yes it is | 01:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I wanted to report it, but then I forgot about it :} | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | this is kde issue since I can mount a cd or play a dvd with kaffeine | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: kde issue or kubuntu issue ? | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | someone using another distro confirming would be very usefull | 01:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: well, it worked with KDE 3.5.4 for dapper | 01:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: so I suspect a kubuntu issue | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | but that probably the n1 bug I saw on kubuntu till now | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | okay, probably a kdebase patch........; | 01:18 |
| danimo | aye | 01:18 |
| Tonio_ | I suspect that will be hard to fix | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I wonder if udev can cause the issue | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:/dev$ ls -la scd0 | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2006-08-21 12:53 scd0 | 01:23 |
| danimo | Tonio_: no idea, I had problems with the udev upgrade anyway | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | that should suffice I assume | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: the error occured yesterday too | 01:23 |
| danimo | Tonio_: it didn't overwrite the udev rules in /etc/udev | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: is the process mounting the medias running under a different user ? | 01:24 |
| danimo | Tonio_: shouldn't | 01:24 |
| danimo | Tonio_: it talks to hal via dbus which runs as root | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | I assume no too, but I don't see why it would work on dapper and not edgy | 01:24 |
| Tonio_ | hal issue maybe.... | 01:25 |
| danimo | maybe | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | the point is "where should I report the issue" | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | kdebase probably first | 01:25 |
| danimo | Tonio_: how about the wiesbaden folks | 01:25 |
| danimo | Tonio_: bah, bugtracker :) | 01:25 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: well since that it really major issue, we probably should ping riddell tomorrow concerning this | 01:26 |
| danimo | yes | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I'm reporting quickly, can you wait 3 minutes to confirm ? | 01:26 |
| danimo | ok | 01:26 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: the strange thing is that it works nicelly with a usb key | 01:28 |
| danimo | Tonio_: don't have one handy to check, sorry | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/57170 | 01:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57170 in kdebase "optical medias are invisible with kde 3.5.4 on edgy" [High,Unconfirmed] | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | just wait for confirmation ;) | 01:33 |
| danimo | how do I confirm? | 01:34 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: done | 01:35 |
| danimo | Tonio_: gnite! | 01:36 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/57171 | 01:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57171 in kdebase "problem with certain specific characters using edgy" [High,Unconfirmed] | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | 3 seconds and I live you alone :) | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | too late probably :) | 01:38 |
| danimo | Tonio_: you're tonight's lucky bastard :) | 01:39 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: LOL :) | 01:39 |
| danimo | Tonio_: done | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | I promiss not to even think about talking to you now :) | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | have a good night danimo | 01:40 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I need to report an ACPI bug with my laptop | 01:40 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but tomorrow :) | 01:41 |
| danimo | Tonio_: and it's not kubuntu-specific | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: ah... | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | I prefer bugs that are not ubuntu specific :) | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | it makes it easier involving upstream to resolve it ;) | 01:43 |
| danimo | Tonio_: well, I simply need to report some acpi key events that are wrongly/not recognized | 01:44 |
| danimo | Tonio_: should be a matter of the maintainer adding a few lines to detect my dell laptop | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes, paul sladen is the man for this | 01:45 |
| danimo | ok, thanks and bye! | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | ++ | 01:48 |
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| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Have you had any luck with u4 yet by chance ? | 05:54 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 06:35 |
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| imbrandon | nixternal: nixternal: http://kflickr.sourceforge.net <-- 0.7 is out | 07:08 |
| imbrandon | wakie wakie orn flakey | 07:08 |
| imbrandon | corn* | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: so you'll upload it? nice | 07:09 |
| imbrandon | upload what? | 07:10 |
| imbrandon | kflickr ? | 07:11 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 07:11 |
| imbrandon | yea i will, i was gonna give nixternal the chance to package it as he got it into ubuntu , but if he dont want to i will | 07:11 |
| imbrandon | but either way i'll either pack and upload or upload his | 07:11 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 07:12 |
| imbrandon | or if i get bord and he dont wake up soon ;) | 07:12 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:12 |
| imbrandon | bored* | 07:13 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: check out http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/ got html templates working on it now | 07:13 |
| imbrandon | need to make them prety like the rest of my site but they work now | 07:14 |
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| seaLne | imbrandon: presumably as ubuntu isn't ubuntu linux kubuntu isn't kubuntu linux, oh and you head floating like that with the reflection is plain freaky :) | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | and what about "ubuntu linux" ? | 07:49 |
| _Sime|Zzz | imbrandon: did you see my message about updated kio patches on the wiki? | 07:50 |
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| imbrandon | Sime: not yet, i ahvent checked the wiki today | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | i'll look right now though | 07:50 |
| Sime | [00:44] <_Sime> imbrandon_: I've updated the Sime kio patches. -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDEMedia | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | cool yea i must have not caught that /me looks | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | imbrandon_ is my lappy ;) | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | hrm that last patch is for 3.4 | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | is it not in upstream already ? | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | and cool i'll start the compile tonight and it should be uploaded by morning | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | ( to my repos first to test ) | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | ahh nvm i see it for 3.5.4 | 07:54 |
| Sime | imbrandon: that other patch from bugs.kde is handy too. | 08:01 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: i was meaning about it being "kubuntu" rather than "kubuntu linux" in your wee side bar, just being picky :) | 08:01 |
| imbrandon | seaLne: hehe ok i'll change it but i refules to put kubuntu GNU/linux ;) | 08:01 |
| imbrandon | Sime: yea i'm gonna include that too, applying all three right now and testing | 08:02 |
| Sime | sweet | 08:02 |
| seaLne | i normally refer to it as GNU/linux unless i'm talking to friends who know | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | i refuse to as GNU tools arent any more important than Gnome or KDE etc | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | it is a Linux system | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:03 |
| imbrandon | but thats just my 0.2c | 08:03 |
| seaLne | yeah but everything apart from the linux kernel would be the same on freebsd etc :) | 08:04 |
| seaLne | but anyway | 08:04 |
| imbrandon | exactly so what makes gnu more important than the bsd tools ? other wise we end up with GNU/KDE/dpkg/Linux ;) | 08:05 |
| imbrandon | and besides to be true to form it should be Linux/GNU as gnu tools wouldent be anything without a kernel ;) | 08:05 |
| seaLne | nah you have GNU/linux GNU/freebsd GNU/hurd etc | 08:06 |
| imbrandon | actualy you have freebsd , linux , and hurd systems that use the gnu toolchain | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | e.g. i load cygwin on my windows box ( or windows sfu gnu toolset ) it dosent becomes GNU/Windows ;) | 08:10 |
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| imbrandon | Sime: patches applied building now, should be done by moning | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | moring | 08:35 |
| Sime | imbrandon_: what are you using to build stuff on? | 08:35 |
| imbrandon | by build cluster but i have a few other things que'd | 08:36 |
| imbrandon | its a edgy pbuilder buildd though | 08:36 |
| imbrandon | 8 xboxes and 2 celeron 2.9 ghz working with ccache and distcc | 08:37 |
| seaLne | nice | 08:43 |
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| Hobbsee | hi again all | 08:52 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm. tooltips for g-p-m seem to have gone awol | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | er, kde-guidance | 08:55 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: yes, you need an UVF exception for ktorrent 2.0.1 | 09:18 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: 3.5.5 mid-september | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | what's it now? | 09:19 |
| kwwii_ | moin | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | hey kwwii_ | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | ! | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh, august | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | hey, i've been 18 for a whole month. cool. | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | heya kwwii_ | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea i figured as much what do i do if upstream dosent keep a changelog ? | 09:20 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: look for svn logs | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | heh ouch, okies , so just go back and look at the commits | 09:21 |
| kwwii_ | howdy imbrandon | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: also Sime has v2 of the patches ready ( 3 of them this time ) should we put them right into edgy or should i build and have a few people test again ? | 09:22 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: lets live on the edge and put them straight in :) | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | hehe okie sounds rockin, i'll get some debdiffs ready for ya then | 09:23 |
| Riddell | cool | 09:24 |
| Riddell | URL? | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | i havent made them yet, doing them now | 09:24 |
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| imbrandon | give me ~20 / 30 minutes | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i like the sound of that. :P | 09:24 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: right, misread, thanks | 09:26 |
| Hobbsee | hah. we get an email notification about LP going down about 4 hours after it was supposed to occur. we know, by now! | 09:27 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 09:28 |
| Hobbsee | it's even back by now, too! | 09:28 |
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| Lure | anybody else have problems with kmail/akregator/kontact hangs after recent edgy updates? | 09:53 |
| Lure | it seems lots of kio_http/kio_file processes are hanging around (more than I have seen before) | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | hrm not i and i usaly ahve all those opne most of the time | 09:53 |
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| Hobbsee | havent noticed akregator hanging, i dont use the others | 09:54 |
| Lure | imbrandon: kmail hangs on first Check Mail (IMAP) and akregator on reading like 10 posts or so | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | hrm strange , yea i have lots of akre feeds and also use imap | 09:55 |
| Lure | imbrandon: maybe it is due to CrossOverOffice I installed yesterday ;- | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | heh i also have crossover installed | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | edgy ? | 09:55 |
| Lure | edgy yes | 09:56 |
| Lure | it looks I will have to boot in dapper to do my work and then look into this in the evening when back home :-( | 09:57 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: heh | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, the purple is pretty :) | 09:58 |
| Lure | it looks like kded is at fault - two of them get spawning all the time and using 50% of CPU each... | 09:59 |
| Lure | yep, that was it - killing kded helped kontact to get alive | 10:01 |
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| Tonio_ | heya ! | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: still ready to upload universe/multiverse for me ? | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | sure give me one sec | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | flashplayer-nonfree package is failing on edgy, I fixed it last night | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | kk shoot me a url | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon the package is very small, email possible ? | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | sure | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | which one ? | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | imbrandon@kubuntu.org | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | sent, you should get it in a minute | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | kk i'ma grab a soda, brb | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/sime-patches-v2/ <---- both debdiffs ready | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: got it, one sec i'll have it uploaded | 10:43 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon sure :) | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | I'm very astonished nobody fixed it before.... | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | maybe because firefox now installs automatically flash in the user's profile, so most people don't need the package... | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | maybe ;) | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | but it is still the only way to do it for other browsers too | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | uploaded , waiting on accept message | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-August/004211.html | 10:53 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: thanks, looks good | 10:57 |
| Riddell | Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. | 10:59 |
| Riddell | 1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file kioslave/media/libmediacommon/notifieraction.h.rej | 10:59 |
| Riddell | or not | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | heh damn | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | wth | 11:01 |
| imbrandon | whats that mean ? heh i just did debdiff *.dsc > blah.diff | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: what you finishing the merges tonight while you wait on amarok ;) | 11:03 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i'm avoiding my horrible maths assignment :P | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | ahh heh | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | you bugged me for 1.5 weeks about konversation and i fixed it heh now give me amarok ;) | 11:04 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: it's sime's patch that doesn't apply | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | ouch not good ok hrm can you check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDEMedia the very bottom | 11:07 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: that's what I've done, it still doesn't apply | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | ok | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | i'll check back with sime when he wakes | 11:08 |
| Riddell | Sime: poke poke, what's your kdebase v2 patch made against? | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: only 1.5 weeks? and i cant do anything, if the permissions on where the amarok is uploaded to are buggered | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | i think it was against the dapper 3.5.4 now that io think about it ( not mine , his ) | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | s/io/i | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | i rember him saying something about he was still on dapper | 11:09 |
| Riddell | oh bah, it's just getting confused on some encoding issue with the accent in kevin's name | 11:10 |
| Riddell | now if only emacs would let me edit patches | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | yup infact http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101636 <-- sime says there he is on dapper 3.5.4 | 11:10 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 101636 in sidebar "All icons in the services sidebar become folders when pressing plus sign" [Normal,New] | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | emacs ? | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | haha | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | vim ftw ;) | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | actual i dident apply that patch , foo | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | if you get emacs to coperate can you add that one too Riddell ( http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=17238&action=view ) | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | it closes kde bug 101636 | 11:12 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 101636 in sidebar "All icons in the services sidebar become folders when pressing plus sign" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101636 | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | its just a one liner | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | now to add the .hidden file to k-d-s | 11:13 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what's the bug number for that? | 11:14 |
| Riddell | oh, you said | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | just the kinda spam i need at 4am "Subject: Claim the hottest new Pink Phone" | 11:16 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:16 |
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| Hobbsee | hah | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: but who *doesnt* want a pink phone? | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | heh | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | hrm Riddell where is it looking for file:///home , do you know the error i'm talking about ? | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss2.png | 11:24 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: didn't tonio remove that from the sidebar yesterday? | 11:27 |
| imbrandon | umm i dunno, i got all the updates as of yet | 11:28 |
| imbrandon | what did he remove system:/ ? | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should be removed for new profiles | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | but the desktop file exists in the existing profiles | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon find ~/ | grep sidebar | grep system | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon shoot that file | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can eventually remove that file within startkde, but as it'll work for new installations, I wonder if that'ss necessary..... | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon the point is that kde copies those files for /usr/share | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | I removed the installation of that file, so kde cannot copy it anymore | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | what one | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | /home/brandon/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/webbrowsing/entries/system.desktop | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | /home/brandon/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders/services/printsystem.desktop | 11:30 |
| imbrandon | /home/brandon/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/filemanagement/entries/system.desktop | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that if the file already exists in your profile, I can't touch that with a package, except the login script eventually | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | this one /home/brandon/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/filemanagement/entries/system.desktop | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | k | 11:31 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | and this too/home/brandon/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/webbrowsing/entries/system.desktop | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | then killall konqueror (to remove the prelod process too) and restart | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | should work | 11:31 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: let me know if that fails | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | ahh now i have no system tab | 11:33 |
| imbrandon | umm well how am i supose to nav the tree heh | 11:33 |
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| imbrandon | ahh nvm | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | Sime: ping , i'm not getting this .hidden to work | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | ahhh nvm | 11:36 |
| imbrandon | sweet | 11:36 |
| el | Riddell, ping | 11:49 |
| Riddell | hi el | 11:49 |
| el | hi Riddell | 11:49 |
| el | i just wanted to restart hwdb to go through it once more | 11:49 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: kdelibs and kdebase updated | 11:49 |
| el | but it shows the send screen. how can i reset it? | 11:49 |
| Riddell | el: that'll be a usability issue :) | 11:49 |
| Riddell | el: rm ~/.hwdb | 11:49 |
| Riddell | el: I do plan to add a "rerun" button, as well as "back" buttons | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | sweet i'm looking at the .hidden files for kds now | 11:50 |
| el | Riddell, ok | 11:50 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what does that do | 11:50 |
| Riddell | el: edgy upgrade smooth? | 11:50 |
| el | Riddell, how does the user start hwdb? does it pop up itself? | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | best way is to show you a screen shot , one sec | 11:50 |
| Riddell | el: menu entry | 11:50 |
| el | Riddell, i did it on another computer. didn't want to mess up my working machine.. ;-) | 11:50 |
| el | Riddell, ok | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | hey el! | 11:51 |
| el | hi Hobbsee :) | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | el: it doesnt seem to kill anything | 11:51 |
| el | hehe, Hobbsee, now i also know that | 11:52 |
| Riddell | el: the idea behind the hwdb UI is to have it looking fancy enough that the user stays interested and doesn't get bored half way through | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://www.simonzone.com/software/kio_file_integration.png <-- to make those patches actualy /do/ what they are intended | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | i have it working on my box | 11:52 |
| el | Hobbsee, the upgrade was really smooth on the other machine | 11:52 |
| Riddell | el: the gnome version uses a canvas with fading and stuff, which means it has a static layout and no i18n, it's quite evil | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | el: nice. i'm surprised :) | 11:52 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: I think the .hidden file should be added to kdebase then, it's not optional | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ok heh lemme work on that | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | lemme show you how i have it on mine ..... one sec | 11:53 |
| el | Riddell, so it has to be a "fun" application... hm, i'll think of that when going through it | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss12.png | 11:54 |
| Riddell | el: yes | 11:54 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what am I looking at? | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | can i also reduce the folder tabs like in simes screenshots | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | partly what Tonio_ started with system | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | see he has the 4 essential ones , everything else is covered with the patches and the .hidden | 11:56 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: sure | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | ok cool , i'll start that now then , heh looks like a update to kdebase 2 times in ~12 hours lol | 11:57 |
| Riddell | it's healthy to keep the buildds busy | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | indeed. | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | well i need to wait anyhow so i can grab the current kdebase to diff against | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | heh | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: must be time to rebuild the entire kde universe again then :P | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | haha | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | actualy this will make four to kdebase in ~24 hours | 12:01 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:01 |
| imbrandon | and kontact crashes again ...... | 12:01 |
| imbrandon | grrr | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ktorrent stuff in your email | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | a changelog ?!?! | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | pwease ? | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: not quite a changelog - but the svn commits | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | ahh yessss a changelog without having to dig through svn commits | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 12:04 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: did you send a kio-locate UVF exception request? | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | yea but __I__ dident have to do it Hobbsee , thats the good part ;) | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: true that :) | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: thank asimon sometime :P | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | i will trust me /me writes up a quick uvf | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: is mdz or kamoin there with you guys ? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: they are both in this room | 12:12 |
| imbrandon | can you poke one of them to malone 57219 | 12:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57219 in ktorrent "uvf exception request ktorrent 2.0 -> 2.0.1" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57219 | 12:12 |
| imbrandon | please | 12:13 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: e-mail is best for UVF exception requests | 12:13 |
| Riddell | I'll poke them | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes I sent uvfe, but it still needs aproval | 12:13 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:13 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I can't seem to find it, was it an e-mail? | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nope, let me search | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bug 56940 | 12:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56940 in kio-locate "0.4.4 > 0.4.5 UVF Exception Request" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56940 | 12:14 |
| Riddell | I'll poke with that too | 12:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I didn't email mdz but subscribed ubuntu-release group as required | 12:15 |
| imbrandon | heh is pitti gonna get to the inclusionreports this week ? | 12:17 |
| Riddell | no idea | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have you seen that nasty bug ? | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | bug 57170 | 12:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57170 in kdebase "optical medias are invisible with kde 3.5.4 on edgy" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57170 | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | it is edgy specific since no pb with 3.5.4 on dapper and is almost critical | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | hrm i hadent noticed that one, /me grabs a cd to test | 12:22 |
| Riddell | nope | 12:22 |
| Riddell | does it appear in media:/ ? | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nope, nore on the desktop and the action window neither | 12:23 |
| === seaLne can see his cds | ||
| imbrandon | hrm strange i just put a superman cd in and worked fine | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: edgy ? | 12:23 |
| seaLne | yep | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | http://imbrandon.sytes.net/ss13.png | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | yup edgy | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: can you try with a new profile maybe | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | I suspect a configuration issue | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | danimo confirmed it failed for him too | 12:24 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: ok give me a few min | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: sure | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I must say my cd is scd0 (sata one) maybe that can explain | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | yea the icon and window pop up | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | but it worked with 3.5.4 on dapper | 12:25 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: strangely (with my normal account) i can't eject | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon testing on a fresh profile would be nice | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: sure give me 5 seconds to make a new user | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | I had the problem and I reinstalled to get the same issue | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | I have lots of issues that others don't seem to have, like katapult that doesn't work here (confirmed by toma) | 12:26 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: clean profile pops up and behaves fine, this needs upgraded a bit it was off for the last few days which may be an interesting test | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: hum.......... | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | why did danimo had the issue too ? | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | I will ask him if he has sata or not | 12:28 |
| imbrandon | yea brand new uesr and new profile works great | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand, I'm just testing here, with a default knot1 installation, and it simply fails | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | knot1 and not updated ? | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon nope, up to date | 12:29 |
| Sime | imbrandon, Riddell : are you guys happy? or do I need to help with anything? | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | is the media your using good ? | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | I mean, this isn't an upgrated dapper | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I tested about 10 cds ;) | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | and yes they are good | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | jusat checkin | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | the point is I'm apparently not the only one, since danimo could confirm... | 12:30 |
| Riddell | Sime: it's all sorted | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | Sime: nope had a little hickup applying a patch but looks good | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: can you give me a diff of your kde base against ubuntu8 so i dont have to wait on the buildd's | 12:31 |
| Sime | cool. | 12:31 |
| Sime | my patching technique is a bit dodgy since I've been working on a "apt-get source"ed copy of kde. | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | Sime: thats what we use ;) | 12:32 |
| Sime | so there were other things mixed in which I cut out of the diff. seems ok now. | 12:32 |
| Sime | yeah, I wanted the edgy version kde. but diffing got messy | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | they seemed to apply fine to edgy sources | 12:33 |
| Sime | if you came across any problems, issues or things that don't work quite right, then add that info to the wiki. | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | k | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | ohh | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | the .hidden dosent seem to | 12:34 |
| Sime | oh, and plug as much stuff into you comptuer as possible. usb-pens, cameras etc | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | support secondary dirs | 12:34 |
| Sime | .hidden not working? | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | no it works | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | but say i want to hide /media/cdrom0 | 12:35 |
| allee | Tonio_: I told you that using 'Defaults' in config dialogs ignores Kubuntu settings. Looks like Helio right now fixed it for Controlcenter in 3.5 Branch :) | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | allee ah ? it uses kde settings ? nasty.......; | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | allee reported a bug concerning this ? | 12:35 |
| Sime | imbrandon: ok, I have only tested it in /. | 12:36 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kdebase-ubuntu9.debdiff | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea i tried that earlier i put media/cdrom0 in the /.hidden file and it dident like it | 12:36 |
| imbrandon | Sime: ^^ | 12:36 |
| allee | Tonio_: no. Looks like every kcm module has to be touched for it. Helio commited dozend of changes | 12:36 |
| Sime | imbrandon: /media/cdrom is a bit tricky. If you delete the cdrom link and dir, and let pmount handle taht for you like removable media, then it kind of workss in a more nice way. | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | allee maybe we can backport the diff as a patch, shouldn't we ? | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | argh, indeed | 12:36 |
| Sime | imbrandon: just put the file/dir name, not the path. | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't that too late for dozensof patches ? | 12:37 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: lots of autotools changes, probably because I made it on dapper | 12:37 |
| allee | Tonio_: well, I've a fan of syncing with 3.5 branch not too late in release cycle | 12:37 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: like what? | 12:37 |
| Sime | imbrandon: and the .hidden file should be in the same dir as the files you want to hide. | 12:37 |
| Sime | imbrandon: .hidden is per dir. | 12:37 |
| Riddell | Sime: hmm, in / ? | 12:37 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| imbrandon | ahh soo /media would need one | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | ok | 12:37 |
| Sime | imbrandon: yes | 12:37 |
| Riddell | hmmmm | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea .hidden go's in / | 12:38 |
| === allee always wonder why anything is work in KDE when reading the list of 3.5 branch fixes ;) | ||
| Sime | imbrandon: the .hidden for / goes in /. | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: for the kcm modules changes | 12:38 |
| Riddell | that might not match with debian-policy and LSB | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | Sime: actualy could we put that in the normal kde configs dir | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks pretty important, but it looks like the changes are bug | 12:38 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea i was just thinking that | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | s/bug/big | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ping ? | 12:39 |
| Sime | imbrandon: I guess that is possible. | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | and just make one .hidden file that honours paths | 12:39 |
| Sime | imbrandon, Riddell : can you guys write on the wiki what you would like to see, and I'll see waht I can do. | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | sure | 12:39 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i'll hold off on adding that to kdebase then till sime looks it over | 12:40 |
| Sime | Riddell: I can understand that debian policy and ubuntu might have a problem with some of this stuff. | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | well actualy if it was in /etc/ it would work then gnome could use it too as said on you blog | 12:40 |
| imbrandon | and it IS a config | 12:41 |
| Sime | I guess that the /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0 links and dir are there for a reason and can't be removed. | 12:41 |
| Sime | imbrandon: gnome *does* respect .hidden already. | 12:41 |
| imbrandon | in / ? | 12:41 |
| Sime | yep | 12:42 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 12:42 |
| Sime | the .hidden "idea" is from Mac OS X. | 12:42 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: where would we chekup on things like this to make sure they are "ok" | 12:42 |
| Sime | nautilus supports it. | 12:42 |
| imbrandon | yea i love osx ways ;) | 12:42 |
| Sime | it's a hack, but useful. | 12:42 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: still works fine in fully up to date edgy | 12:43 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: can you eject your cds by right clicking? | 12:43 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: couldent we get away with putting it kds then since gnome support it and it /is/ kubuntu specific ie what folders we hide/show | 12:44 |
| imbrandon | by default | 12:44 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: i get "media:/hdc cannot be found" on right click eject or unmount | 12:44 |
| imbrandon | and kdebase will function without it | 12:44 |
| imbrandon | same here | 12:45 |
| imbrandon | but i think simes new patch takes care of that | 12:45 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: of eject? | 12:46 |
| imbrandon | yea becouse it deals with how media:/ is supported | 12:46 |
| seaLne | ok, just checking we were talking about the same thing :) | 12:47 |
| Sime | seaLne: I think I've fixed that already (last weekend) | 12:47 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: I'll talk to people familiar with debian-policy | 12:47 |
| imbrandon | yea Riddell the more i think of it .hidden should go in kds since konqui/kdebase will work without it but not be all bling blaing like we want | 12:48 |
| Riddell | you could well be right | 12:48 |
| imbrandon | then since its its kubuntu specific i think it will be ok to shove in / or anywhere else ;) | 12:48 |
| seaLne | Riddell: if you are doing that could you ask about Bug #56970 aswell | 12:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56970 in k3b "K3B should be moved to KDE from "otherosfs"" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56970 | 12:49 |
| === seaLne notices | ||
| seaLne | Francesco Pedrini is packaging new kmobiletools for debian | 12:51 |
| Riddell | seaLne: changing that to kde seems sensible to me, send mea debdiff, it's set in Section: otherosfs | 12:51 |
| Riddell | not that Sections are really important these days, if they ever were | 12:52 |
| Riddell | it's set in debian/control rather | 12:52 |
| seaLne | yeah, the reason i wondered was that cdrecord and other related stuff is in there aswell | 12:52 |
| Riddell | that's fair enough, but the frontend doesn't need to be | 12:53 |
| seaLne | k | 12:53 |
| imbrandon | ahh CC meeting today ;) hopefully it wont be a all out slugfest like the last one | 12:56 |
| seaLne | Riddell: http://geeksoc.org/~kd/tmp/k3b/ | 01:01 |
| Riddell | seaLne: sections are lower case, uploaded with s/KDE/kde/, thaks | 01:04 |
| === Riddell lunches | ||
| seaLne | k | 01:04 |
| imbrandon | good idea, me gets food too | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: I'll investigate, but that's a bit strange I must say.... | 01:04 |
| seaLne | my drives are all ide btw | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: we need to wait informations from danimo | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: concerning katapult | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | does it work for you ? | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | a few people people reported it fails and I also have the issue | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | alt + space doesn't produced anything and even with changing the shortcut that doesn't work | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: pong, in a bit. | 01:09 |
| seaLne | Tonio_: works on 0:0 does random things on 0:1 | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i'll re-pong - dishes here | 01:10 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes I noticed you are a "contact" for kdebase bugs | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: um, yes? | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't found the way to subscribe as a contact to get noticed for all bugs | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | how can you do this ? | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahhh. bugmail settings | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: where is that ? | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: let me grab it... | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: it's under "report a bug" on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | hit "i want to recieve all bugmail for $packagename" | 01:13 |
| === Hobbsee does that for all of kdebase, kdelibs, kubuntu-meta and some other packages as well | ||
| Hobbsee | helps with the bug control, to know what's happening | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: thanks, I missed this function | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | honnestly, malone is a great bts | 01:15 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: thanks for the tip | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: no problem | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed, it is | 01:19 |
| seaLne | isn't that equivalant to reading kubuntu-bugs? | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | pretty much ;) | 01:23 |
| seaLne | except you get the mail twice now :) | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: lol | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: mailing lists are evil though :P | 01:25 |
| seaLne | just because they don't like you :) | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: i got them to work :D | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: they're probably very smart. with not liking me at all | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | cant see why things/people would like me when i boss them around, after all :P | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | yay @ https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/57235 | 01:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57235 in kubuntu-meta "The Kubuntu CD should have a sampling of whole of KDE" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 01:34 |
| Tm_T | ? | 01:44 |
| Tm_T | whole KDE? | 01:44 |
| Tm_T | that means "official" KDE set of application or all kde-related? ] ;= | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | all of kde wouldent fit on to the cd nor is in main | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | kubuntu != official kde ;) | 01:45 |
| Tm_T | yeah | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | reject reject reject | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand those guys........; | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | if you want everything, grabs debian dvds.....; | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | exactly | 01:45 |
| Tm_T | imbrandon: error: unknown error: don't know how to reject reject reject, see reject help | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | I want kubuntu, but with the specifics of debian, the content of fedora, the advantages of mandriva, freely, on a 700 MB cd | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | by advance thanks ! | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | pfffffffff, stupid | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: you forgot "kthxbye" | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | probably better including knetworkmanager on the cd ;) | 01:46 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: where's gentoo? | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | that has to be done | 01:46 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: gentoo sucks, so I don't include it ;) | 01:46 |
| Tm_T | haha | 01:46 |
| Trollio | my new nick | 01:47 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:47 |
| imbrandon | brb afk a hour or two for food | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | no honnestly, I don't include tonio because it is not intended to be used by the masses | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | it's target is more slack's one than ubuntu's ;) | 01:47 |
| Tm_T | tonio is intented to use by who? | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | I donr't include GENTOO | 01:48 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 01:48 |
| === Tonio_ urgently take 3 coffees | ||
| Tm_T | Tonio_: have more coffee, I pay ;) | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | feel free to reject it :P | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | 3 hours sleeping last night.... that may explain | 01:48 |
| Tm_T | my second day in work, I'm exhausted | 01:49 |
| Tm_T | it's hard to do something almost 4 hours active | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | as we would answer to that bug "and why not 20 euros and a TWIX with it hu ???" ^_^ | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | that's french expression hehe | 01:50 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 01:50 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon danimo has an ide cdrom | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | weird........ | 01:54 |
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| seaLne | Tonio_: it would be interesting to see if you had the problem with an ide drive, laptop or desktop? | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: I will replug my dekstop in 2 weeks, not before | 02:06 |
| seaLne | it does sound like a strange and hard to diagnose problem :( | 02:07 |
| Riddell | el: thanks for the hwdb feedback, I'll get onto that once I've done your power manager changes | 02:08 |
| Riddell | (which won't be until next week at the earliest) | 02:09 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: "Re: Kopete 0.12.2 UVF exception request" "Looks good" | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yay! :) | 02:14 |
| Tm_T | :) | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i warn you now, i'm probably looking for an uploader | 02:15 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: =) | 02:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: sure | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: if you can wait until saturday, ping me eventually | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | I may have my key back then | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | i still have to fix it frist | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:16 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what's wrong with it? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: not kopete | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: xine-lib, actually | 02:18 |
| Riddell | oh? | 02:18 |
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| Hobbsee | doesnt play m4b files | 02:18 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: is kopete 0.12.2 ready to upload? | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: afaik, yes | 02:18 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: where is it? | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: kopete 0.12.2? | 02:19 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| Hobbsee | i dotn remmber now :P | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i would think it's at http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/ | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know of anywhere else where i'm hiding it | 02:20 |
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| Hobbsee | oh yes...now i'm remembering that package | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: were you going to take the debdiff, or the source? | 02:20 |
| === Riddell finds it on http://www.buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kopete/ | ||
| Riddell | it's a new version, can't do debdiff | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | source is there too :) | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | btw amarok 1.4.2 is released | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: yeah, but they chmod' the directory wrong, so no one can get to it. | 02:21 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:21 |
| Tm_T | what? | 02:21 |
| Tm_T | 15:19 < markey> http://rokymotion.pwsp.net/nightly-builds/1.4.2/ | 02:22 |
| Tm_T | this one? | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: new ktorrent available, bugfixes release | 02:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: 2.0.1? | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: interested in a uvf exception ? | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 02:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: imbrandon did that | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah great | 02:23 |
| Riddell | we're requested a uvf exception | 02:23 |
| Riddell | he is indeed great | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 02:23 |
| Riddell | but so's nixternal, he made me a cool hackergotchi | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is that the "active team" is growing up quickly ;) | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | that's cool | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: ah, not that one :) | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed. it's very cool :) | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is kwwii supposed to connect today ? I would appreciate to discuss about the team, and his plans reguarding to this | 02:24 |
| Riddell | he's gone out for a smoke | 02:26 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: why does koete suggest gnupg anyway? | 02:27 |
| seaLne | encrypted chat? | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | yes | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: encrypted chat, i think | 02:27 |
| Tm_T | cryptic talk, monk latin ;) | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | I'm out for one hour or two | 02:28 |
| Riddell | nifty | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | need to go in the supermarket with mommy | 02:28 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:28 |
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| el | Riddell, it's quite a lot. should i add priorities to show which are the important ones? | 02:37 |
| Riddell | el: sure | 02:39 |
| el | ok | 02:39 |
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| Tm_T | abattoir_: hi | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | *sod* | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | why do i like goign and randomly deleting things? | 02:41 |
| abattoir_ | Tm_T: hello :) | 02:41 |
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| Hobbsee | heya kwwii_ | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | pity Tonio_ is afk now | 02:49 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 02:50 |
| imbrandon | moins kwwii_ | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | not still | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | but in 5 minutes yes | 02:50 |
| jjesse | monring imbrandon_ | 02:50 |
| imbrandon | heya jjesse | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | heya kwwii_ :) | 02:51 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: what ya delete now ? | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: got 5 minutes or not ? | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: just an .orig.tar.gz | 02:51 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:51 |
| === imbrandon wispers amarok 1.4.2 | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: hi | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: no, wasnt that. was xine-lib | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: looks like no, so seya in a few hours :) | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/temp/ktorrent.debdiff ready to go | 02:53 |
| Riddell | approved? | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | yup | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | and noted so in the changelog | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/bugs/57219 | 02:54 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57219 in ktorrent "uvf exception request ktorrent 2.0 -> 2.0.1" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 02:54 |
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| kwwii_ | Tonio_: hi | 02:58 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: sorry, I just checked irc :-) | 02:58 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: I need the .orig .diff and .dsc for ktorrent | 02:58 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: how can I be of help? | 02:58 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: sure one sec lemme upload | 02:58 |
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| danimo | heya | 03:01 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/temp/ there ya go | 03:02 |
| === danimo wonders why on his edgy-installation on the workstation, X.org is of version 7.1.1 and all drivers are of version 7.0.1 | ||
| danimo | has anyone seen that? | 03:02 |
| danimo | !package | 03:04 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | both look to be 7.0.2 to me | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-video-all | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | xserver-xorg-video-all | 1:7.0.22ubuntu7 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/main Packages | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | xorg | 1:7.0.22ubuntu7 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/main Sources | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | err 7.0.22 | 03:04 |
| imbrandon | !info xorg edgy | 03:05 |
| ubotu | xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB | 03:05 |
| imbrandon | !info xserver-xorg-video-all edgy | 03:05 |
| ubotu | xserver-xorg-video-all: the X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB | 03:05 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: try xdpyinfo | grep version | 03:05 |
| danimo | imbrandon: yes, that's what I have. but I get an ABI missmatch | 03:05 |
| Riddell | danimo: nvidia? | 03:05 |
| danimo | Riddell: no, anything BUT nvidia | 03:06 |
| danimo | Riddell: that's the most interesting thing | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ xdpyinfo | grep version | 03:06 |
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| imbrandon | version number: 11.0 | 03:06 |
| imbrandon | X.Org version: 7.1.1 | 03:06 |
| danimo | plus the nvidia driver is buggy | 03:06 |
| === seaLne has just found why his machine appears to freeze, kicker goes into some sort of loop trying to open /usr/share/X11/locale/common/xlcUTF-8.so.2 which dosent exist | ||
| Riddell | whatever that is | 03:07 |
| ryanakca | bug 49901 can be closed... right? Is a complaint about katapult running slower than usual while amarok is adding music to it's database (which is cpu intensive, which explains the problem)... nobody has replied since 06-21 | 03:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 49901 in katapult "Katapult slows down to a near crawl when amarok is open" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49901 | 03:07 |
| danimo | module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1) | 03:07 |
| danimo | drives me nuts | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca: yea i would say so | 03:08 |
| danimo | imbrandon: any clue? | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | no idea , unless something ftbs | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | on the buildd's | 03:10 |
| danimo | ftbs? | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | faild to build from source | 03:11 |
| abattoir_ | danimo: dapper? | 03:11 |
| imbrandon | but seeing as the packages have the same version number i'm kinda baffled tbh | 03:11 |
| danimo | edgy | 03:12 |
| danimo | afk brbv | 03:12 |
| danimo | -v | 03:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ping, do you have the kio-locate .orig? | 03:14 |
| Riddell | and diff and stuff | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | hehe thats the new name for the upload sets "diff's n stuff's" hehehe just teasin ;) | 03:15 |
| imbrandon | whoop i guess that means not right now .... | 03:15 |
| Lure | kdelibs build failed due to new media patch :-( | 03:16 |
| Lure | http://librarian.launchpad.net/3971835/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.kdelibs_4%3A3.5.4-0ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:17 |
| imbrandon | gah /me looks | 03:17 |
| Tm_T | kwwii_: hi :) | 03:17 |
| Lure | same with kubuntu-default-settings: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3977430/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-i386.kubuntu-default-settings_1%3A6.10-14_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:17 |
| Lure | :-( | 03:17 |
| Riddell | bah | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | make[1] : Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/xine-lib-1.1.2' | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | cd . && /bin/bash /root/xine/new/main/xine-lib-1.1.2/missing --run aclocal-1.9 -I m4 | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | /bin/bash: /root/xine/new/main/xine-lib-1.1.2/missing: No such file or directory | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear. | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | gah it dident apply the patch again | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_57_nomediaioslave_fileio.diff at level 1...0...2...failure. | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | make: *** [debian/stamp-patched] Error 1 | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | is that some of the funny char stuff you was talking about ?> | 03:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, it applied for me | 03:20 |
| imbrandon | i wish it was more verbose when it dosent apply | 03:20 |
| imbrandon | them ;( | 03:20 |
| imbrandon | gah phone bbiab | 03:21 |
| danimo | oh, for some reason there is xserver-xorg-driver* and xserver-oxrg-video* | 03:21 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: the error is in the debian/patches/ directory | 03:24 |
| danimo | but the nvidia propritary driver is unusable at this point | 03:25 |
| imbrandon | yea the nvidia binary drivers ( and ati afaik ) dont work with xorg 7.1 yet | 03:26 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: yea i know, its with the last patch but i just dunno WHY it dident apply hehe | 03:26 |
| imbrandon | food time then i'll see if i can figure it out | 03:26 |
| ryanakca | can I close all the old bugs (1.5 months and over ) that no one has replied to and that don't seem to be a problem now (on edgy)? | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: yep | 03:28 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: patch errors give log files in debian/patches | 03:28 |
| jjesse | ryanakca: i usually mark them as rejected w/ a nice comment about how there has been no response and you are closing the bug due to that | 03:28 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: add that they are welcome to re-open if they can stuff reproduce in current edgy | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ahh nice ok, cool dident realize that, will look after food | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | jjesse: or if it just isn't a problem anymore, "Fix Released"? | 03:29 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: kk | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | sigh. this package is being painful. | 03:30 |
| === Hobbsee tries to see if the package in the repos currently will ftbfs as well. | ||
| === Tm_T uses sisters laptop as edgy testground ] ;= | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: kdelibs fail was just me being silly | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: but you're suppposed to be perfect, surely? :P | 03:45 |
| Tm_T | sir Riddell is | 03:45 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| === Hobbsee notes the increase in email, due to ryanakca :) | ||
| Hobbsee | it must be bugday, or close to it | 03:47 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: lol | 03:48 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 03:48 |
| === ryanakca works harder on triaging so that Hobbsee's inbox is filled with more junk mail | ||
| Tm_T | I need apartment :( | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: haha | 03:49 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: why don't you do what some guy did... trade from a little red paper clip all the way up to a house | 03:49 |
| Tm_T | nah | 03:54 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: you mean build a house by using paperclips ? | 03:54 |
| Tm_T | you have any idea how cold it is here in finland during long dark winter? | 03:54 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: no... he traded a paperclip for a pen for a door nob for a coleman stove, etc http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com/ | 03:55 |
| Tm_T | nah | 03:55 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: can it be any colder than -40'C? | 03:55 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: sure | 03:55 |
| ryanakca | sweet | 03:56 |
| === ryanakca loves cold | ||
| Tm_T | in normal winter we play ice hockey out there and it's only -25'C ;) | 03:56 |
| Tm_T | or something, I can't play hockey anymore :( | 03:57 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: of course I am, it's a bug in patch that it can't apply already applied patches | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hah | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, right | 03:57 |
| === Hobbsee is still trying to figure otu what the heck is borking here. | ||
| Riddell | Hobbsee: want me to look at it? | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: give me ~5 or so mins, then yeah | 03:58 |
| === Hobbsee is trying it rebuilding, and will see what on earth is wrong | ||
| ryanakca | Can kde apps use the upstream .pot/.po ? (It was included in the source's po/ ) | 03:59 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: of course | 04:00 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: kk, ty | 04:01 |
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| Hobbsee | APPLYING PATCH: automake.diff | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | ah ha.... | 04:07 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: what would I put in cdbs debian/rules for a premade .pot... I found the part on creating one... just not using a premade one.. | 04:07 |
| === Hobbsee wonders where the heck that has come from, and what it is doing. | ||
| Riddell | ryanakca: nothing, it'll get picked up automatically by the buildds | 04:08 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: is it in po/ ? | 04:08 |
| Mez | Riddell: love the hat :D | 04:08 |
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| Riddell | Mez: I still have no idea which photo nixternal took it from | 04:10 |
| nixternal | hehe | 04:10 |
| nixternal | it is hidden in your pictures section of your website | 04:10 |
| Mez | Riddell: at least you've finally got a hackergotchi | 04:10 |
| Mez | I believe the people at Novell made mine :D | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | hey Mez | 04:11 |
| Mez | hey sarah | 04:12 |
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| Hobbsee | is there any sane reason why there would be a diff in the source dir? ie, not in the debian/ dir? | 04:13 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: you can put your source changes outside debian/ it's just considered bad practice these days and is very hard to maintai | 04:16 |
| Riddell | maintain | 04:16 |
| Mez | Riddell: whats the status on hct atm ? | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right..... | 04:16 |
| Riddell | Mez: not changed as far as I know | 04:17 |
| Riddell | Mez: see the NoMoreSourcePackages spec though | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | hct? | 04:17 |
| Mez | No feature specifications match your criteria] | 04:18 |
| Riddell | my criteria? | 04:18 |
| Mez | nvm | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: whinge. i give up :P | 04:27 |
| Riddell | me too, debtags is weird | 04:28 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: want to help me out please? | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i want to add the contents of the patch in http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/xine-lib.debdiff | 04:29 |
| bddebian | Heya | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 04:31 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, whats the problem with adding the patch ? | 04:34 |
| Riddell | what the heck is m4b? | 04:34 |
| seaLne | aac apparently | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: it screws with automake, etc, and makes the package not build. | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: think along the lines of mp3, m4a, etc | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | that patch is from kde bugs, pretty much | 04:35 |
| Riddell | what's m4a? | 04:35 |
| bddebian | 1 less than m4b? | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:36 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| Hawkwind | Hah | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | another file type? | 04:36 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: back, yep, it po/ | 04:36 |
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| Hawkwind | m4a is an audio file type similar to mp3 | 04:36 |
| Hawkwind | m4a is the given/used name for mpeg 4 files | 04:37 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: ther'es a bug # if you want it | 04:37 |
| === Hobbsee dies quietly in the corner | ||
| === ryanakca takes Hobbsee's pointy stick and starts poking people! muahahaha | ||
| === Hobbsee gets out her whip and uses it on ryanakca. you leave my long pointy stick alone, and get back to bugsquashing. | ||
| Hobbsee | :P | 04:39 |
| === Hobbsee puts her whip back in her back pocket for safe keeping. that always seems to come in handy... | ||
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| Mez | Whip? | 04:39 |
| === Mez ponders | ||
| Hobbsee | Mez: what are you pondering? | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: it's useful to make people behave :P | 04:40 |
| === ryanakca uses his photon death ray on Hobbsee | ||
| ryanakca | (hey... i'm not very imaginative... give me a break :P ) | 04:42 |
| === Hobbsee shines a very powerful green laser into ryanakca's eyes. | ||
| === Hobbsee is getting a degree in them, after all :P | ||
| seaLne | you want to be an optician? | 04:43 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: ping? | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | pong | 04:44 |
| ryanakca | oooh... green! | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: optoelectronics, not optics to do with eyes | 04:44 |
| nixternal | you package kflickr yet? | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | yup and uploaded | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | you sleep too long ;) | 04:44 |
| nixternal | k..i was gonna do it if you hadn't...gotta run to the gym...bbiab | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | l8tr | 04:44 |
| Riddell | what's optoelectronics? | 04:44 |
| nixternal | LEDs | 04:44 |
| nixternal | light emitting via glass...LEDs, Fiber Optics | 04:45 |
| nixternal | OLED | 04:45 |
| nixternal | stuff like that..ok bbiab now for sure ;) | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah. that stuff. check wikipedia :) | 04:46 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Riddell for the 20 billionth person to ask that question. | ||
| Riddell | Hobbsee: xine seems to be compiling for me | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: even with that patch, etc, in? | 04:47 |
| Riddell | yes | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: cool. can you upload it for me then please? :P | 04:47 |
| Riddell | I'll let it finish compiling, then sure | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: thankyou :) | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | actually, not being able to upload to main is not *that* much of an inconvenience. | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | amarok people will be happy :) | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | universe was more of the problem, just due to sheer number | 04:48 |
| === Hobbsee bugs allee | ||
| === allee shudders | ||
| seaLne | any suggestions on how to check if a specific model of ati graphics card is supported, the family is listed in the man page | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | allee: did you see my message a couple of days ago? :) | 04:49 |
| === allee relaxes | ||
| allee | Hobbsee: no | 04:49 |
| === allee at least does not remember | ||
| Hobbsee | allee: right. knemo in debian has a dependancy of kdelibs-bin, does it not? | 04:49 |
| allee | Hobbsee: yes: control:Depends: kdelibs-bin, kicker, net-tools, ${shlibs:Depends} | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | allee: kdelibs-bin is not in debian unstable? | 04:51 |
| === Hobbsee could not properly research this, as she's not running debian. | ||
| Hobbsee | forgot about checking the ftp site though | 04:51 |
| === Hobbsee is lazy, like that | ||
| allee | Hobbsee: ah, right. I remember something like this. | 04:52 |
| === allee has no sid too ;) | ||
| imbrandon | chroots are your friend ;) | 04:52 |
| Riddell | config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in | 04:52 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: ho hum | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | allee: happened in edgy, that's why. according to p.d.o, unstable has no kdelibs-bin. now, assuming kdelibs-bin also got merged into kdelibs4c2a, you need to remove kdelibs-bin from debian unstable as well. which means that i can sync knemo :) | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, exactly. | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yet without my patch, it builds just fine. | 04:53 |
| allee | imbrandon: yeap chroot I have ;) | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | brandon@voyager:~$ dchroot -c sid -d | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | I: [sid chroot] Running shell: /bin/bash | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | (debian_sid)brandon@voyager:~$ | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | ack. my earlier statement didnt make sense. | 04:56 |
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| yuriy | g'morning | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | hey yuriy | 05:00 |
| yuriy | kwwii: i gave glossiness another shot | 05:01 |
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| ryanakca | all kde apps must have a man page included in packaging? | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: yep | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | woot! i got paid! | 05:02 |
| yuriy | kwwii: i think i overdid it though https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEGuidanceWineSpec/KdeGuidanceWineProgress | 05:02 |
| ryanakca | lol | 05:02 |
| === ryanakca thinks Hobbsee is really really generous *hopeful grin* | ||
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: hah. | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | my aussie money wouldnt be worth much to you | 05:03 |
| === Hobbsee needs it for things like petrol, anyway :P | ||
| Hobbsee | and phone credit | 05:04 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... AUD = 0.850493 CAD .... still worth it :) | 05:04 |
| kwwii | yuriy: looks much better though | 05:04 |
| allee | Hobbsee: paid? Is this unusual behaviour when one has a job in down under? :) | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | allee: hehe. sometimes it feels like it. | 05:05 |
| ryanakca | gas... I remember a while back it was 60 a litre... and we would have found 90 outrageously expensive... now we consider it cheap | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | allee: they pay me on a tuesday night, which kinda sucks. especially when i want the money for petrol on tuesday morning :P | 05:05 |
| allee | Hobbsee: buy a bike ;) | 05:06 |
| allee | Hobbsee: how far's your Uni and job away? | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | allee: cant ride one :P | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | allee: job is about 10 mins, uni is 20-25, up to 45 | 05:06 |
| === Hobbsee got there in 15 mins actually. | ||
| === Hobbsee looks around for any police | ||
| Hobbsee | i think i was speeding....a bit...or a lot... | 05:07 |
| ryanakca | lol | 05:07 |
| allee | oh, oh! | 05:07 |
| === ryanakca thinks we should rename this to #kubuntu-develandofftopic | ||
| Hobbsee | allee: it's a bit too hilly for bikes around here. | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | allee: and completely unsafe | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: well.... | 05:08 |
| allee | Hobbsee: as long as you drive car I can imagine <duck> | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | allee: hahahaha! | 05:08 |
| === Hobbsee makes a note to run over allee when he's next in au. | ||
| Hobbsee | allee: i've never crashed into anyone else. they've crashed into me, or i've had some close calls though | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | and it all went silent... | 05:12 |
| === Hobbsee blames ryanakca | ||
| Tm_T | yeah! | 05:12 |
| === Tm_T hides | ||
| ryanakca | lol... silent | 05:13 |
| === Hobbsee contempltaes uni later today | ||
| Hobbsee | i need to be on time to it :( | 05:13 |
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| Hobbsee | wb abattoir | 05:13 |
| === ryanakca pulls out his pipes and plays "The Mucking of Geordie's Pyre" | ||
| === Hobbsee FINGERS IN EARS!!! | ||
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| abattoir | Hobbsee: thanks... silly kwin... crashes when cpu reaches a 100% :( | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | ouchy | 05:14 |
| allee | * control: remove Depends: kdelibs-bin. kdelibs-bin was merged into | 05:16 |
| allee | kdelibs4c2a. kdelibs4c2a is added via ${shlibs:Depends}. Thx Hobbsee | 05:16 |
| allee | for reminding me (again and again :). | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | allee: :D | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | allee: and now i can wait, and then sync it. | 05:17 |
| === Hobbsee hugs allee | ||
| allee | Hobbsee: I'll ask for a 0.4.4-2 upload | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | allee: in debian or ubuntu? | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | or both? | 05:18 |
| allee | Hobbsee: mhh, I thought only debian and then sync to kubuntu. When I universe freeze? | 05:19 |
| allee | s/I/is/ | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | allee: | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | allee: i'll take care of ubuntu if you want - MOM will show the updated version | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | sept 23 or something | 05:19 |
| allee | Hobbsee: great | 05:19 |
| === Hobbsee dreads the thought of edgy+1 MOM. | ||
| === Hobbsee will likely have lots of packages with her name on them. | ||
| imbrandon | by this rate youll be co-cto by then and wont have to do them ;) | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: co-cto? | 05:22 |
| imbrandon | chief tech officer ( e. g. mdz's title ) | 05:22 |
| === Hobbsee splutters | ||
| Hobbsee | yeah right ;P | 05:23 |
| imbrandon | it was a joke ;) | 05:23 |
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| ryanakca | <sarcasm>writing man pages is fun!!!</sarcasm> | 05:24 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: why do you think i dont put packages into NEW? :P | 05:24 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... dunno... why? :P | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | heh man pages arent tooo bad ;) | 05:25 |
| Mez | hehe :D stories of LRL are coming back to me | 05:26 |
| Mez | I need to find that picture of the Kubuntu CD display we set up in pizza hut | 05:26 |
| seaLne | heh | 05:27 |
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| Mez | seaLne, I wonder if she actually went home and tried kubuntu ? | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | re | 05:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: ping ? | 05:27 |
| seaLne | who knows :) | 05:28 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: I FOUND IT ..... LOL | 05:28 |
| Mez | seaLne, I should go back and ask her :P | 05:28 |
| seaLne | bug #57289 is really pissing me off, i havent been able to use my main machine for about 10 min now :( | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57289 in kdebase "kicker & kwin sit in infinite loop using nearly 100% CPU" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57289 | 05:30 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what? | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | the pic nixternal used for the gotchi ;) | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-08-20-wgyf-liz-jonathan.jpg | 05:31 |
| Riddell | well well, so it is | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | heh | 05:32 |
| danimo | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2283 << wannahave :) | 05:36 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: heh... I just figured it out... "kdemangen.pl /usr/bin/kdeapp" :) instant man page | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | oh wow, cool :) | 05:37 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: isn't it? :) | 05:38 |
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| Riddell | I'm curious to know how the All Programmes works | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | woo. finally got thru level 6 of supertux :) | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | looks like a mix between slab and kbfx | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | hey danimo | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | i ahve been waiting for this from them for AGES | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: nice you're here to discuss that horrible bug... imbrandon doesn't any issue, nore seaLne | 05:41 |
| danimo | heya Tonio_ | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: most likely how it works in slab with another window | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: that's a complete nonsense... | 05:41 |
| danimo | yeah | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | the point is that there is an issue, definitly... | 05:42 |
| danimo | yes | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | hahah infact it looks like they riped off the suse kbfx theme for that | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 05:42 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but how to track it down? | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: dunno...... | 05:42 |
| danimo | imbrandon: well, there is a lot more code behind that | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | kde logs are not very easy to use | 05:42 |
| danimo | imbrandon: only the button is from kbfx | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | i would love to see that in action though | 05:43 |
| danimo | imbrandon: well, ask beineri for the code :) | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | the rest of the theme is too it looks like danimo | 05:43 |
| danimo | not sure if they will hand it out before they release it themselves, though | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any idea how to track that bug ? the "cd not visible in konq" | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | I must say I don't see any way to track this... | 05:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: nope | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | danimo: would it not be in svn ? | 05:43 |
| danimo | imbrandon: well, point is kbfx is just a theme, this start menu has more semantics behind it | 05:43 |
| danimo | imbrandon: read the text, it's a development from the opensuse project | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | danimo: have you used the spinx kbfx ? | 05:44 |
| danimo | nope | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: who is responsible for this in kde ? | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | heh there is alot of code behind that too | 05:44 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: aseigo | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well he doesn't look very respondive to my mails anyway ;) probably very buzy with kde4 | 05:44 |
| danimo | Tonio_: what? | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: the optical medias management | 05:45 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: hi, did you need something from me | 05:45 |
| kwwii_ | ? | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: yes | 05:45 |
| danimo | heya kwwii_ | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I just noticed there is an evil bug on lipstik style : http://www.planetemu.net/temp/capture1.png | 05:45 |
| kwwii_ | howdy danimo | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I was wondering your plans concerning the kde style to use for edgy | 05:46 |
| kwwii_ | ouch | 05:46 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii_: cause we eventually can switch to plastik, since they are very, very close | 05:46 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: good question, no plans to changes things now, but perhaps if we can find something better it would be good | 05:46 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: walking off a cliff in RL isn't cool either :) | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: this shows the full all applications http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: well plastik is not a clone of lipstik, but the difference is very, very little | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: true that. cant admit i've ever tried that. | 05:47 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, unless you're a lemming | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: hehe. i'm nto a lemming | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | my opinion would be to switch the default team, since we may not have any time to fix lipstik | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: what would you sugest ? | 05:47 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: turn the seperators off :-) | 05:47 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: bah... they are usefull since the configuration is possible by clicking them :) | 05:48 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: hmm, flash | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: ever tried plastik ? | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | 90% people wouldn't even see the difference with lipstik | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | it shows a good 5 minutes of useage though | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ^^ | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | and plastik doesn't bug | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | man that would be SWEET to stick in edgy | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | it would blow their sox off as far as candy | 05:49 |
| Riddell | Mez: katapult 0.3 does double delete on backspace too | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: did you figure out what on earth was wrong with that patch? | 05:49 |
| danimo | Tonio_: btw: the vpn integration in knm still doesn't work in edgy :( | 05:49 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: the point is that art is your job so you decide :) | 05:49 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: nope, autoblah is still being evil | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: it does as long as you have the vpn modules installed | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I'm using it | 05:50 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: hehe, fair enough. you did see the comment while building, and in debian/rules, didnt you? | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | but the modules are gtk based, which sucks a bit | 05:50 |
| Riddell | abattoir: new oem-config in edgy | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | at least openvpn works here | 05:50 |
| Riddell | abattoir: could you merge with colin and see if we can get a working version? | 05:51 |
| ryanakca | danimo: sweet screenshot... wannahaveaswell :) | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: we need to get the vpn packages in the repos btw | 05:52 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: I have the openvpn package installed | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: and nothing ? | 05:52 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: might be a good idea to just use plastik | 05:52 |
| danimo | Tonio_: | 05:52 |
| kwwii_ | since that is properly tested for years already | 05:52 |
| danimo | Tonio_: no | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: can be an issue with the package eventually, I compiled it | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | I remember that the packages I found on the net were causing this kindof issue | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: okay. Riddellwould you be okay too ? I would change kds in this case | 05:53 |
| danimo | imbrandon: oh, and click on the screenie to see how far it is away from kfbx | 05:53 |
| abattoir | Riddell: yes, i've been speaking w/ him.. i'm just checking the changes... | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: maybe you can remove the package and compile from source | 05:53 |
| danimo | Tonio_: huh? they are from the edgy repo | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | danimo: yea i seeen | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | this is the way I did and I used it until 2 weeks ago. No vpn acces anymore since I left my company ;) | 05:54 |
| abattoir | Riddell: he said i could ping him... and he'd merge my changes :) | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: they are available now ? cool ;) I didn't figured out this | 05:54 |
| danimo | Tonio_: another bug to fix then | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yep, can you report ? | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | I will give a shot to the patches provided for knm, maybe one is a bit destructive ;) | 05:55 |
| danimo | Tonio_: which ones? | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | the point is I dokn't understand why it worked for me... | 05:55 |
| danimo | Tonio_: issue numbers? | 05:55 |
| imbrandon | danimo: yea talking to Beineri now in PM | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | the nodialup one | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | maybe we removed a bit to much of code | 05:55 |
| danimo | Tonio_: dialup one? | 05:56 |
| Riddell | abattoir: let me test them first, we don't want him to try a merge and find problems you've overlooked :) | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: is the knm + vpn issue already reported ? | 05:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hmm, spose so | 05:56 |
| abattoir | Riddell: sure :) | 05:56 |
| danimo | Tonio_: didn't check | 05:56 |
| danimo | Tonio_: trying to purge and reinstall the packages first | 05:56 |
| danimo | Tonio_: since I had them from an official repository before edgy | 05:56 |
| danimo | Tonio_: so just to be safe | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: translate(spose, en_EN); please ;) | 05:57 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yup | 05:57 |
| danimo | Tonio_: odd, it's gone now | 05:57 |
| danimo | Tonio_: so it was not in repo :( | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 05:57 |
| danimo | Tonio_: where did you get it then? | 05:57 |
| danimo | bye Hobbsee | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hope you get that autohell worked out. | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: ah !!! I was astonished by this :) probably first compile to check, that's the way I did | 05:58 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: where can I get the sources? | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I don't remember where... probably on the redhat svn or something since they are developped by redhat | 05:58 |
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| Tonio_ | danimo: or if you get the package, grab the tarball ;) | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | welcome Beineri | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | you may found an rpm source repo from suse eventually | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | danimo Riddell : i was just asking him about the kickoff code | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | I installed it month ago so I don't remember | 05:59 |
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| Riddell | if I could install flash I could look at it, but guess Tonio_'s flash fix isn't in yet | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: its a bit hetic in here at time, and others dead, this is one of the hetic times | 05:59 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i uploaded it a few hours ago | 06:00 |
| imbrandon | should be in | 06:00 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: is the code in svn somewhere we can poke at it at all ? | 06:00 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't it ? it was uploaded this morning.... | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: i'll check LP now | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can install firefox, which autoinstalls flash, and then konq can use it too | 06:02 |
| Riddell | imbrandon, Tonio_: got it now; needed apt-get update | 06:02 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah great :) | 06:02 |
| nixternal | anything needing specific testing that could be dangerous...sling my way...i have created a new edgy testing monster....it is screaming for pain | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: we're all perusing Beineri's blog post about a new kicker menu 50x better than kbfx it looks like | 06:03 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html if you have flash installed | 06:03 |
| nixternal | i seen it | 06:04 |
| nixternal | it is nothing more than a hacked kbfx theme | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | no its lots more | 06:04 |
| nixternal | kde-look has a bunch of those menus already to download | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | i thought that at first too | 06:04 |
| nixternal | i have played with them | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | no no | 06:04 |
| nixternal | pretty cool | 06:04 |
| nixternal | really | 06:04 |
| imbrandon | look at what it does, its alot more than kbfx is unless there has been a MAJOR rehaul | 06:05 |
| nixternal | it looks like the other menus on kde-look.org to me..actually a tad bit cleaner than most | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | look closer, your glancing and not paying attn | 06:05 |
| imbrandon | i'mtelling you having worked on the kbfx code alot, its leaps and bounds above it | 06:06 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: that's sweet... | 06:06 |
| imbrandon | context menu's , tabs , serarch | 06:07 |
| imbrandon | it would be alot of code overhauls if that was kbfx | 06:07 |
| danimo | Tonio_: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/NetworkManager/vpn-daemons/ | 06:07 |
| Beineri | imbrandon: it's only in our internal svn for now. but we plan to have it in openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 4... | 06:08 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: nice , any eat or can we maybe get a tarbal to play with ? | 06:08 |
| imbrandon | s/eat/eta | 06:08 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: if it's in opensuse you'll be able to get the source | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | kinda test the stability etc ( not to say you write something that will crash every click lol ) | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: oh i know | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | but not till alpha 4 | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:09 |
| imbrandon | i have factory installed on the amd64 | 06:09 |
| Beineri | imbrandon: eta for Alpha 4 is 7 Sep so it will land in Factory, svn.kde.org, kde-look.org some days before... | 06:10 |
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| Beineri | stability is a good point ;-) | 06:10 |
| imbrandon | cool ;) | 06:10 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: Hallo | 06:10 |
| Beineri | keyboard navigation has still some flaws ;-( | 06:11 |
| raphink | hi DaSkreech | 06:11 |
| imbrandon | if its days before sept 7 then we can squeese it in possibly | 06:11 |
| Beineri | and fyi, it's a big patch to Kicker itself - not some applet you can package/install separately. | 06:11 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:11 |
| DaSkreech | I hear you are the daddy :) | 06:11 |
| imbrandon | ohh very cool | 06:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: interesting in testing that kickoff ? | 06:12 |
| Beineri | imbrandon: beware of | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | edgy look like the good release to test new stuff no ? | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: thats what we're talking about | 06:12 |
| danimo | Tonio_: wow, there's a lot of gnome stuff in the openvpn plugin | 06:12 |
| Beineri | openSUSE has months to stabilize/bugfix it :-) | 06:12 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41033 | 06:12 |
| nixternal | that has all the same stuff..just placed differently | 06:12 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes, they are gtk based | 06:12 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: How do I debug an X issue with no errors? | 06:12 |
| nixternal | there is another one out there that isn't on kde-look as well..and it might be in the opensuse wiki actually for you to dl | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | all the configuration is gtk dialog, you only get a link in knm in fact | 06:13 |
| danimo | Tonio_: we could change that you know? :) | 06:13 |
| raphink | DaSkreech: what do you want to debug if there's no errors? | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: no i have used the kbfx code it dosent ahve the context menus and alot of the other kio intergration | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: heh yea i know | 06:13 |
| DaSkreech | The lack of KDE goodness? | 06:14 |
| imbrandon | Beineri: it could possibly be packaged as kicker2 and conflick/provide it though for an either or type thing | 06:14 |
| imbrandon | in the initial testing | 06:14 |
| danimo | imbrandon: btw: kickstart depends on beagle, at least the search part | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | danimo: not a problem so does kery and others | 06:15 |
| Beineri | danimo: what is kickstart? | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | kerry* | 06:15 |
| danimo | Beineri: wrr, kickoff | 06:15 |
| Beineri | Linux on Amiga? | 06:15 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 06:15 |
| danimo | Beineri: it's tempting to confuse them. admint it! | 06:16 |
| Beineri | danimo: not the whole search part stuff | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | kio-beagle and kerry both use the beagle back end | 06:16 |
| danimo | imbrandon: is beagle in main now? | 06:16 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: what do you mean by "change this" except redevelopping the full vpn modules ? | 06:16 |
| imbrandon | not sure but i think its on its way, if its not wouldent be hard to get it in for edgy+1 where this would target | 06:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: not all of it | 06:17 |
| DaSkreech | Back to here :-) | 06:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but it's only two dialogs that are actually depending on gtk | 06:17 |
| DaSkreech | I have no errors however X will not start | 06:17 |
| imbrandon | danimo: seeing how mono and other mono apps are in main already no many deps would be brought in | 06:17 |
| Beineri | shoudln't edgy+1 include kde4 with whatever first class menu it then has? :-) | 06:17 |
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| danimo | imbrandon: well, mono is a differen beast :) | 06:17 |
| danimo | Beineri: I think it's more like edgy+2 :) | 06:17 |
| Beineri | danimo: pessimist | 06:18 |
| danimo | Beineri: or will opensuse 10.3 have KDE 4 by default? :) | 06:18 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:18 |
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| Tonio_ | danimo: how about the conf, doesn't it depend on gconf I think ? | 06:18 |
| Beineri | danimo: maybe, opensuse 10.3 is fall 2007 stuff | 06:18 |
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| imbrandon | getting this in universe shouldnt be a problem for edgy but edgy+1 for main if at all | 06:19 |
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| nixternal | imbrandon: ok, i can see some major differences in it..however setup/design looks very close to a kbfx menu to me...i see the added kio stuff, and some of the functions are neat...but after watching the application stuff with multiple child directories..it would become annoying if i had to go up to the top just to go back one directory..but cool nonetheless | 06:19 |
| danimo | Beineri: I still think Spring 2007 is rather optimisic for the final of 4.0 | 06:20 |
| Beineri | danimo: mhm wait, what "by default" do you mean? :-) | 06:20 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: still better than a kmenu circa windows 95, besides i'm sure suse r&d put lots of hours in useability in this ;) | 06:20 |
| danimo | Beineri: well, that's the other thing.... | 06:20 |
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| Beineri | imbrandon: sure, you know "Novell - word leading in creating usable desktop start menuS" ;-) | 06:21 |
| Beineri | world even | 06:21 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:21 |
| imbrandon | yea i fell in love with slab but i hate gnome ;) | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:22 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: When you get a moment can you ping me or look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402 and see if anything stands out. Thanks | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | well i dont hate it but ..... | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:22 |
| DShepherd | imbrandon: usp nicer in my humble opinion | 06:22 |
| raphink | DaSkreech: sorry I'm going to leave work now | 06:22 |
| imbrandon | usp ? | 06:22 |
| === nixternal likes the kmenu circa 95...it is easy to use, and straight forward | ||
| nixternal | im all about simplicity..and kmenu can't get any simpler *just made that word up* | 06:23 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: heading home? | 06:23 |
| raphink | yes DaSkreech | 06:23 |
| DaSkreech | will you have a moment then? | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: says who? dude everyone hates the kmenu , hit kde.org once in a while ;) | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | xfce = simple , kde = useable ;) | 06:24 |
| nixternal | i like it, and im sticking to it | 06:24 |
| nixternal | you can't teach an old dog new tricks, well at least this one ;) | 06:24 |
| DaSkreech | e = short to say | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | sure i can when i file the main inclusion report and upload it ;) | 06:24 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:25 |
| DShepherd | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222546 <-- usp.. hmmm.. nice | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | ugh forums | 06:25 |
| DaSkreech | Haha | 06:25 |
| DShepherd | hehe | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | ouch thats a monster and ugly | 06:25 |
| DShepherd | imbrandon: :-P | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | could they have made it any bigger ? | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | imho looks like a slab rippoff not as polished | 06:26 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: ping ? | 06:27 |
| DShepherd | slab sucks... really comparted to usp | 06:27 |
| imbrandon | hrm i guess thats why i stick with kde ;) | 06:27 |
| raphink | pong Tonio_ | 06:27 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: tu pourrais m'uploader un kds ? | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | c'est pas lourd ;) | 06:28 |
| raphink | Tonio_: quand je rentre chez moi | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | oki | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | je te send le mail en attendant :) | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | merci ma poule | 06:28 |
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| === DaSkreech waves | ||
| toma | hi | 06:35 |
| imbrandon | heya toma | 06:37 |
| allee | hi toma | 06:37 |
| toma | anyone know what happened to xorg-dapper earlier today? | 06:38 |
| Mez | toma, http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/latest-dapper-xserver-xorg-upgrade-might-break-the-xserver/ | 06:38 |
| nixternal | heh, ubuntu-demon is going to turn his blog into the "AP" of the technology world with all that he posts ;) | 06:39 |
| imbrandon | he needs to consolidate some post and not spam planet with that crap imho , but thats just me, i hate to see 5 post in one day by the same person | 06:40 |
| imbrandon | EVERY day | 06:40 |
| imbrandon | that and wasent X fixed like less than an hour after it was botched ? | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | see that was an error of less than an hour and he gets comments like this , that pisses me off .... | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | i am halfway of reinstalling ubuntu when i saw this sheezzmakes me have second thought on goin back to fedoraor maybe open suse..if this ever happens again u know what distro will be in my pc.. i wanna know who is responsible for this hell? :( | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | </quote> | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | 98% of users never even say the upgrade before it was fixed | 06:43 |
| toma | imbrandon: even for me it took me quite some time to fix it | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | toma but you are one of the few that updated in that time | 06:44 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: http://bootsplash.org/windowDecoGradient.png & http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu_buttons.tar.bz2 | 06:44 |
| toma | imbrandon: sure, but the result is a horrible situation, most users can not fix such a thing | 06:44 |
| toma | and if it hit me, it hit others ;-) | 06:45 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii_: love that | 06:50 |
| DaSkreech | X sucks :-P | 06:52 |
| nixternal | hey, is there a way to get konversation to default to port 8001 to prevent the DCC exploit? | 06:52 |
| nixternal | i know there is a way | 06:52 |
| nixternal | bad wording there | 06:52 |
| nixternal | it needs to be implemented from the get go for Freenode in the default settings | 06:52 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: #7C67AB | 06:52 |
| Riddell | good idea | 06:52 |
| kwwii_ | and #5B4B7D | 06:53 |
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| htraki | hello to all | 06:54 |
| Riddell | htraki! | 06:55 |
| === DaSkreech waves | ||
| htraki | Ive problem with the new xserver-xorg-core pacakge 10.3:After upgrading wont start X11 anymore | 06:56 |
| htraki | My video card radeon 9250 | 06:57 |
| htraki | Says:no screen found | 06:57 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: wait till you see the new buttons in action...the animation is pretty cool now :-) | 06:58 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: hehe | 06:58 |
| DaSkreech | htraki: Update to 10.4 | 06:59 |
| htraki | where can I find it? | 06:59 |
| htraki | I use the at mirror it has only 10.3 | 06:59 |
| Hawkwind | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 07:00 |
| Hawkwind | Most all mirrors have the new package now | 07:00 |
| Hawkwind | se.archive.ubuntu.com does for sure as many others do | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | Hawkwind: Mine doesn't I grabebd it from packages.ubuntu.com | 07:00 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: Take a hint, use a better mirror :P | 07:01 |
| === Hawkwind Hides | ||
| htraki | Which do U recommend ? | 07:01 |
| Hawkwind | I'm sure by tonight or tomorrow just about all of them should have it | 07:01 |
| Hawkwind | htraki: I use se.archive.ubuntu.com personally | 07:01 |
| nixternal | ubuntu-devel is a different monster thats for sure...i was just reinformed as to why i use Kubuntu as well ;) | 07:02 |
| DaSkreech | Hawkwind: Gets 7 years of bad luck over Hawkwind's head | 07:02 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: Hah | 07:02 |
| htraki | thx 4 your help guys, bye | 07:03 |
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| DaSkreech | raphink: If you have anytime ping me :) | 07:15 |
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| imbrandon | night nigth folks , time for my nap | 07:29 |
| DaSkreech | Night | 07:29 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: i'll finish up that .hidden stuff tomarrow ( aka tonight when i wake ) | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | c yall | 07:30 |
| fdoving | nite imbrandon. | 07:30 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon_: oh yes, I spoke to keybuk and be kinday mumbled and wasn't to sure, so I think it'll be ok to upload .hidden files in / and /media and see who complains | 07:35 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: I couldn't load the links you gave earlier | 07:35 |
| Tm_T | meh | 07:39 |
| Tm_T | X fails to start in edgy :p | 07:39 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: what was the error? | 07:39 |
| DaSkreech | No error | 07:39 |
| DaSkreech | ust loaded up said done and I could see nothing and nothing happened | 07:40 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: hrm, no idea | 07:40 |
| fdoving | Tm_T: which version? | 07:40 |
| fdoving | Tm_T: is that on nvidia? only x-related updates i've got for a while back. | 07:41 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: ati | 07:42 |
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| DaSkreech | Bah Epiphany sucks | 07:43 |
| Tm_T | I tried with "ati" and "radeon" driver, both ends up to "(EE) ATI(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit Failed" | 07:44 |
| DaSkreech | Tm_T: I'll one up you :) | 07:44 |
| Tm_T | ? | 07:44 |
| DaSkreech | I've tried all drivers XGL DRI and no DRI and I get no errors on any of them but X won't start :) | 07:45 |
| Tm_T | haha | 07:45 |
| Tm_T | glad I didn't upgrade my workstation but my sisters laptop =) | 07:45 |
| DaSkreech | So how do you debug something that is working but is obviously not working? | 07:45 |
| Riddell | new and improved kwin-style-crystal uploaded, have fun when it compiles | 07:46 |
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| DaSkreech | Riddell: With Lubos patches? :) | 07:47 |
| fdoving | Tm_T: when did you update? | 07:47 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: just | 07:47 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: ? no | 07:47 |
| DaSkreech | ok :) | 07:47 |
| fdoving | xserver-xorg-video-fbdev, | 07:47 |
| fdoving | and xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-savage | 07:48 |
| fdoving | are the x-related updates i got just now. | 07:48 |
| Tm_T | I see, doesn't help I afraid | 07:48 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| DShepherd | DaSkreech: ping | 08:02 |
| nixternal | knot2 release date? first person to answer correctly wins....A new car! | 08:06 |
| Hawkwind | Today | 08:06 |
| nixternal | wrong | 08:06 |
| jjesse | this week? | 08:06 |
| nixternal | hahah cheater | 08:06 |
| nixternal | i need to know so i can finalize the EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu page so it can get published | 08:07 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: "knot2 is released in knot2 release day" | 08:08 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 08:08 |
| nixternal | YOU WIN!!! send me a self addressed stamped envelope and I will send you your new car ;) | 08:09 |
| Tm_T | whee! | 08:09 |
| Tm_T | nixternal: small plastic one?or real steel? I like small steel cars :) | 08:09 |
| nixternal | oh, just a picture i printed | 08:10 |
| nixternal | ;) | 08:10 |
| Tm_T | bah | 08:10 |
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| DaSkreech | Tm_T: if the enevelope didn't tip you off :) | 08:18 |
| Tm_T | =) | 08:19 |
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| DaSkreech | Well time to format Kubuntu. Bye bye | 08:52 |
| DShepherd | DaSkreech: reinstall is last last last resort | 08:54 |
| DaSkreech | Yes but I need to get work done and End of wednesday is cutting close | 08:55 |
| DaSkreech | I'll battle it out today but Tomorrow a reinstall is second on my list | 08:55 |
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| DShepherd | I agree | 08:56 |
| DShepherd | would it be too much to ask you to come for me DaSkreech?? | 08:56 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm | 08:56 |
| DaSkreech | Lack of car | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | otherwise i dont see me coming into office today..and food is there.. | 08:57 |
| DaSkreech | I can call a cab for you | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | :-( we have vouchers? | 08:57 |
| DaSkreech | We have vouchers :) | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | ok.. | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | i'll call one then.. | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | soon | 08:57 |
| DShepherd | not half ready yet | 08:57 |
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| ryanakca | how long is it before a "Needs Info" becomes an "Aged Needs Info" | 09:15 |
| ryanakca | A month of no reply with more info? 2 months? | 09:15 |
| crimsun | 1 month is my instinct | 09:16 |
| crimsun | 2 months is more than generous | 09:16 |
| ryanakca | kk | 09:16 |
| ryanakca | ty | 09:17 |
| === ryanakca is looking for all the old "Need Info" in kubuntu and closing them | ||
| Beineri | wasn't here someone with Flash problems? | 09:25 |
| === Beineri looks to Riddell | ||
| Beineri | anyway, there is now also a mpeg at the same place | 09:30 |
| ryanakca | How do I recommend a different icon set for kubuntu-desktop? (I know I have poor chances of success) | 09:38 |
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| ryanakca | http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/kNeu-Screenshot-5497.html | 09:41 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: I was mistaken: /dev/cdrom links to /dev/scd0, so it's really all sata | 09:53 |
| danimo | re btw :) | 09:53 |
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| danimo | Riddell: ping? | 12:01 |
| fdoving | amarok 1.4.2 just released. :) | 12:02 |
| danimo | fdoving: yeah, go upgrade the packages :) | 12:02 |
| fdoving | i'm on overtime, need to be in bed in -20 min. | 12:02 |
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| fdoving | i could look at it tomorrow if it's not already done when i get home from work. | 12:08 |
| fdoving | now i'm off to bed. | 12:08 |
| fdoving | nite. | 12:08 |
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