taliosmmm, even after using that older xserver deb I get the problem.12:09
talios"xauth: error in locking authority file" hrm12:10
fritschtalios: when you login?12:11
fritschtalios: just reboot ;-)12:11
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texas319i have an external usb HDD I connected to my laptop but I cannot copy any thing to it. I will not allow me to chang permisions12:12
texas319anyoen have any ideas12:12
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taliosno joy12:13
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fritschtalios: you just cannot login?12:13
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fritschtalios: or your xserver does not come up?12:13
fritschtalios: plese provide me a log12:14
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taliosfritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21354 - I may have enabled framebuffer when I did my reconfigure...  I see that error in the log12:15
skreechI have a framebuffer error as well12:15
fritschtalios: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core12:15
taliosfix0red - I had an older xorg.conf in /etc that worked.12:16
fritschtalios: what does it say?12:16
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pielgrzymfritsch: once again - thanks for help :) bye :)12:16
fritschpielgrzym: no prob!12:16
fritschpielgrzym: just don`t upgrade now12:17
fritschpielgrzym: *G* wait till tomorrow12:17
taliosfritsch: that says 10.1 installed.  all working now with the older xorg.conf I found from this morning (thank god for automatic backup files!)12:17
pielgrzymfritsch: ok ;) what kind of upgrade do u mean?12:17
fritschtalios: hehe, cool12:17
fritschpielgrzym: xserver-xorg-core12:17
fritschpielgrzym: broken, don`t update12:17
fritschpielgrzym: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:17
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pielgrzymfritsch: thanks for the info :)12:18
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pielgrzymfritsch: bye :)12:18
taliosmmm, must take that deb home as I suspect my home box will be borked as well.12:19
fritschpielgrzym: bye! have fun12:19
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cherokeegirlbuy e is alot to compizther12:20
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fritschn8 all12:21
TubaSoldierWARNING! WARNING! - Do not get the xorg update that just became available. your system will be screwed!12:21
fritschTubaSoldier: old *G* https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:21
fritschTubaSoldier: Fix is downgrading12:21
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fritschseems to be fun tonight12:21
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HawkwindTubaSoldier: We've only been discussing that in this channel for about an hour now12:22
looktjwhat is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?12:22
TubaSoldieroh. sorry. i guess. i'm a little slow.12:22
fritschHawkwind: coud you change the channel topic?12:23
Hawkwindfritsch: I'm not an op12:23
fritschHawkwind: that the coming user "floods" get a direct link to fix?12:23
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looktjwe need an op lol12:24
cherokeegirlgee there is alot to compiz12:25
looktjwhat is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?12:25
mkpaathis xorg problem is pretty bad pr for the ubuntu-team12:25
looktjmkpaa: i hope they fix the problem soon12:25
fritschthey will do12:25
fritschjust wait 1 hour, there is an updated package ...12:25
looktjok im on gmone right now12:26
fritschlooktj: gnome is also affected12:26
fritschlooktj: this is an x bug ... or problem12:26
looktji know, but what is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?12:26
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justin_Where does KDE keep its TRASH folder, so I can delete its contents manually from Term?12:27
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looktjis version 1:1:0.2-012:27
looktjthe bug12:28
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[TSC] ChiFLiiiiianyone can help me with wireless ?12:28
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiijust installed kubuntu but i cant get it to work12:28
Hawkwind!wireless > [TSC] ChiFLiiiii12:28
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looktjthat is the command12:28
asimonjustin_: ~/.local/share/Trash/12:29
looktjfor checking wireless extension12:29
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiii tried with the assistent and in prefernces12:29
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiibut i always get connection failed12:29
[TSC] ChiFLiiiii:S12:29
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiitried with wep and without with dhcp and without12:29
justin_asimon: Thanks12:29
looktjdo you have wep12:29
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiiyep12:30
[TSC] ChiFLiiiii128 bits12:30
looktjmight be a dhcp problem12:30
justin_cd /12:30
justin_cd /12:30
maewaht is it good for12:30
maeabsolutely nothing12:30
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiimaybe but i tried to set up the ip static and i have the same problem12:30
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looktj!flood > justin12:30
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiiwell the assistent said faster than with dhcp that was a error in the connection12:31
looktji had this problem, had to set router back to default settings12:32
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[TSC] ChiFLiiiii:S12:32
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiireset router12:32
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiiwhy?12:32
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiiis working on windows /mac12:32
looktjno, i mean like peformance settings should be on default12:33
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looktjcan someone help him out if i cant get his wireless working12:34
[TSC] ChiFLiiiiihehe12:36
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[TSC] ChiFLiiiiii read smt about ndiswrapper or smt like that12:36
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TubaSoldierxorg all fixed now. sorry about the overreaction12:45
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ivan`does ubuntu need a swap and boot partition?12:48
aliasfredivan, you may but not required12:48
MitchMin other words; yes.12:49
MitchMdo it :-)12:49
ivan`i'll just do swap in case that makes it faster12:49
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MitchMit wont make it faster; it will however prevent crashes if you ever run out of RAM12:49
ivan`ok thanks12:49
aliasfredivan, to run out of memory is not pretty :) but if you use only light apps and have a lot of ram you can do without12:49
MrBallZHi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup Kubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...12:50
aliasfrednot pretty = the kernel starts killing apps that consume too much ram12:50
ivan`the ascii-ish ubuntu partitioner is the best i've ever seen12:52
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looktjwhat is the url to install commands?12:56
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ivan`urls don't install commands12:59
ivan`they locate resources12:59
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:59
aliasfredlooktj: the above url :)01:00
ivan`what's the best way to do filesystem encryption?01:01
aliasfrednot loop aes01:02
aliasfredit is flawed, i found some in the past and the author doesnt want to fix them :)01:02
ivan`i'll probably just make a Truecrypt volume and symlink it to a few places01:02
aliasfredi dont remember the name but there is one using lufs01:02
aliasfredtruecrypt is window only, no ?01:04
ivan`nope, linux too01:04
aliasfredah ok, cool :)01:04
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ivan`did kubuntu automatically guess which filesystem I want to install to?01:05
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ugly_whats the best player for playing xvid or divx movies?01:07
ugly_is not in apt cache when i search for it01:08
ugly_is there an apt-get.org mirror for unbuntu?01:08
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MrBallZyou need repositories01:10
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer01:10
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.01:10
MrBallZget the mallirat one01:10
ugly_ahh... okies01:11
ugly_they have debs for it,  but ubuntu has its own package system right, does not use normal deb files01:12
ivan`linux-powerpc or linux-image-2.6.15-26-powerpc?01:12
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intelikeyodd my whois doesn't seem to be working.   first time i tested it on this system.01:33
intelikeyeverything returns the same info.01:33
intelikeyinetnum: -
intelikeynetname:      IANA-BLK01:33
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intelikeyah i found it.   hehhe picking up an old transiant...   that's what i get for using stale ~  i guess.01:35
MrBallZget the mallirat one01:39
MrBallZHi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup Kubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...01:39
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looktjhow do i install jdk01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:43
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intelikeythis jdk ?   sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.001:44
intelikeywith apt01:44
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looktjlatest version01:46
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intelikeyyeah you have to have the latest.  heck that's what 3months old now....01:47
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intelikeylooktj get the source from the cvs and build it.01:48
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looktjbuild what?01:48
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ugly_MrBallZ: just download the deb file from his website for mplayer?01:50
beermunkanyone have any experience with pptpconfig?  I've got a couple questions01:50
beermunkfirst - when using pptp does it include MSCHAP v2?01:52
looktji dont01:53
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beermunkdang, thanks though looktj01:54
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actinicubuntu/kubuntu podcasts if anyone's interested: http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/01:57
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rodrigo_hi, I need some help compiling amarok 1.4.2-beta1 on kubuntu dapper01:58
ugly_Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h01:59
ugly_i get that when trying to compile mplayer01:59
looktji need to install latest jdk01:59
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AdemanI know this could be considered stupid or futile, but I'd like to make this petition, and i'd like people to review it before I post the draft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135002:00
rodrigo_it says "can't find X includes"... where are the X includes on kubuntu, or what's the package name?02:00
intelikeyxorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries   maybe02:02
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ivan`kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root  FS on unknown-block (0, 0)02:03
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ivan`i made my / formatted XFS and used yaboot02:03
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ivan`with linux-image-2.6.15-26-powerpc... any ideas?02:03
rodrigo_intelikey: thanks, i think that's it... by the way, do u know where these includes are placed? maybe /usr/includes/xorg?02:04
ugly_any idea's what i need to install to fix my error messsage?02:04
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intelikeyrodrigo_ i'd say that's a likely place.02:05
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intelikeyivan` block device 0, 0  doesn't exist here....   where is your root fs located ?02:07
LeeJunFanever since kde 3.5.3 I've kontact/kmail has been erasing some e-mails. Basically the header is still there, but the message is gone. This is IMAP I'm using - anyone else see this behavior?02:07
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intelikeyivan` that would be block device 3, 3     try adding  root=/dev/hda3   to the boot command02:09
ivan`i used the expert installer, it might be borked then02:10
ivan`or i should have known better02:10
intelikeyexpert is for experts02:11
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MrBallZugly_: I would sugest , add the mallirat repository to your apt sources.list file and then do the apt-get from there ...02:16
ivan`the yaboot.conf generated by the installer looks perfect anyway02:16
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dima_hi, everyone. Would like to ask a stupid question. Why ubuntu does not include MP3 support into their distro02:17
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intelikeyivan` also check the initramfs.img   make sure it's not an empty file.02:18
ivan`will do02:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:18
intelikeydima_ leagle issues.  mp3 is not free.02:19
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actinicsee the 1st link02:20
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intelikeysame reason linux distros don't include windows.   it's not free.02:20
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dima_I'll try to refrase that a bit. The legal issues apply only on US territory. So, what makes Ubuntu a US distribution?02:21
ivan`oh XFS only works in edgy02:21
dima_Why can't they register and host their stuff in another place02:21
actinicthe legal issues *don't* apply strictly to US.02:22
actinicGermany has very strict laws for instance02:22
intelikeydima_ they do if you read the links posted.02:23
intelikeyand actinic is right that's not a U.S. only thing.02:23
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intelikeyi started to call ya on that, but figured i'd be among the thousands.02:24
ivan`is there anything to edit text files except vi in the recovery console?02:27
ivan`nano/pico require a real terminal02:28
intelikeyivan` nano02:28
ivan`i've faked TERM and it was badly broken02:28
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ivan`requires bterm02:29
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intelikeyrecovery console ?     single user mode ?02:29
intelikeynano works in single user mode,02:30
ivan`it's probably something else I screwed up in expert mode02:30
ivan`maybe setting it to utf-802:30
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ivan`and apt-get isn't connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com even though wget is02:32
intelikeytry  . /etc/environment       it might help.02:32
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c0rruptback bz0b02:34
c0rruptmy computer froze solid cause of my gay ass firewall..02:34
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c0rruptso i went for a swim02:34
ivan`i think i'll just do a friendly install since i'm in about 4 levels of brokenness02:35
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c0rruptflame why do u need msf for that02:35
c0rruptthat exploit is leet yo02:35
intelikeyivan` some times it's easier/faster to reload than fix.  some times it's not.02:36
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intelikeysome times my lag goes too one minute.  sometimes 1 second.....   ;/02:37
ErtainHello everyone.  When I put a DVD+RW disc into my drive, it is read, but the only way I can access the directory it is mounted to I need to view it under Super User.  Is there any way I can make it read under a normal user?02:37
c0rruptchmod -R +r dir02:38
intelikeyfix the fstab02:38
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Ertainintelikey: Okay, how do I go about doing that?02:40
c0rruptdo it the ghetto way02:40
c0rrupteasier ;x02:40
c0rruptchmod -R +r /media/dvddir02:40
ErtainBut how will I know it will do that each time I put in the disc?02:41
c0rruptit wont..02:41
c0rruptif you want a real solution02:41
c0rruptedit fstab02:41
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions02:42
c0rrupti would suggest reading that02:42
ErtainDo you guys know about fstab?  I have set it up, but I think I got something wrong with it.02:42
ErtainCan do.02:42
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intelikeyErtain the line that describes the device add  defaults,user,users02:42
ErtainCan do.02:43
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charles1952Is there anyone available that could lend me a hand? I can't get Adept or apt-get to run at all. I closed down adept because it stalled for 40 minutes during a download, now I can't bring up the program. Help!!! if anyone knows a fix02:45
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Ademan I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135902:46
intelikeycharles1952 remove the lock file02:46
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charles1952intelikey: Okay...where do I find it...what is it's name?02:46
Goop2hey I was just wondering what the difference between Linux and Linux RPM was02:46
intelikeycharles1952 run sudo apt-get install -f   and  read carefully the error report.02:47
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intelikeycharles1952 it's name is     'lock'02:47
AdemanGoop2: RPM is redhat package manager I believe, which refers to red hat, which is a distribution of linux (see: a type of linux)02:48
charles1952intelikey: Okay I'll do that and try to fix it...if I have problems I come back and report what I did. Thnx02:48
intelikeyaka distro02:48
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Goop2Ademan: so would that mean Debian is more common?02:49
intelikeyGoop2 no02:49
D4rklyhow do i probe my usb devices do see if a specific device exists ?02:49
Ademannot by any means, but Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Nubuntu, edubuntu are all debian based02:49
Ademanwhich use the debian package manager02:49
Goop2I mean Deb based and Red Hat based02:50
intelikeyD4rkly look in /proc/something....  or use    lsusb02:50
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AdemanI couldn't tell you which is more popular02:50
Ademanbut it doesn't really matter02:50
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Ademanthey're both package managers02:50
Ademanthey both accomplish the same thing to the best of my knowledge02:51
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Ademanpick a linux distro based on what it offers, not on its package manager02:51
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intelikeyGoop2 rpm based no longer means redhat based  i just means they use the redhat package manager.02:51
Goop2I was just wondering why Red hat installations are "Linux RPM" and Debian is just "Linux"02:51
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AdemanGoop2: i'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about, who or what reffers to them in that way?02:52
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intelikeydebian is not 'just linux' btw.   it's  gnu-linux    not that it matters.02:53
Ademanhuh... well i don't think it really matters, and if it does, java sucks more than i thought...02:53
Jucatojust great! this is not a good way to start the morning...02:53
charles1952intelikey: Removed the "lock" file from /var/lib/dpkg but adept still crashes when loading. Any further suggestion?02:54
draikJucato, what happened?02:54
charles1952intelikey: or should I re-boot and then try?02:54
intelikeycharles1952 does    sudo apt-get install -f     finish without error ?02:54
charles1952I'll try again02:55
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Jucatoanyone here had problems with the latest xserver-xorg-core update a while ago?02:56
charles1952intelikey: I get "Can't connect to X server" error msg.02:56
intelikeyhaven't tried it yet.   will check Jucato02:56
draikShould I get the update xserver-xorg-core?02:56
Jucatodraik: NO02:56
Jucatowhat 10-4?02:57
intelikeycharles1952 apt-get shouldn't be trying to connect to the X server   ?????   what did you type ?02:57
charles1952intelikey:  sudo apt-get install -f02:57
intelikeyand you get "Can't connect to X server"  ???02:58
charles1952intelikey: Yup!02:58
intelikeyJucato yep it hosed X here.   lol02:58
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intelikeycharles1952 that's not supposed to happen.02:59
intelikeycan't happen.02:59
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Jucatoimagine that?! an official upgrade that hoses your system02:59
charles1952intelikey: kdesu cannot connect to the X-Server is the exact quote02:59
intelikeyJucato raise living hell about it.  in #ubuntu  too03:00
Jucatooh, so even Ubuntu is affected03:00
intelikeyJucato it's X  not kde.   all *buntu  is affected.03:00
Jucatoyeah... I was just thinking that maybe Ubuntu got away with it..03:01
intelikeycharles1952 where are you typing the command ?03:01
Jucatonow, how the hell will we use pastebin?03:01
charles1952intelikey: In Konsole...I just tried sudo instead of kdesu and I got: "adept: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting."03:02
intelikeycharles1952 you are in a terminal  "konsole"   ok.    and typing    sudo apt-get install -f        nothing to do with kdesu   right.03:02
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charles1952Intelikey: I tried both...and yes I'm in terminal Konsole...and both kdesu and sudo give error...sudo states ity can't connect to X Server and kdesu says the error quote above,03:04
HawkwindJucato: Got a second for a PM  ??03:04
CheeseBurgerMancharles1952: what are you trying to do?03:04
Agioscharles1952: are you doing this from a $ prompt or a # prompt?03:04
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charles1952CheeseBurgerMan: Run adept or apt-get.... Agios: I'm at a # prompt.03:05
bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a ubuntumachine if the share is sbm://
CheeseBurgerMancharles1952: then just run 'adept'03:05
JucatoHawkwind: sure03:05
CheeseBurgerMancharles1952: That means that you're running as root.03:05
Agiosyou cannot do kdesu from a # prompt. You must be at a $ prompt.03:05
charles1952Okay...I'll give it a run. BRB03:06
intelikeybut sudo runs for root guys.03:06
draikanyone here using Yakuake?03:06
CheeseBurgerMandraik: Yes.03:06
Jucatodraik: here here03:07
draikHow do you close a shell window to open a new one?03:07
draikother than the minus (-) button on the left03:07
draikI mean with command03:07
draikif any03:07
Jucatodraik: Ctrl+D ?03:07
draikthanks Jucato03:07
Jucatodraik: or 'logout' I think03:07
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draikCTRL + D works beautifully03:08
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draikBTW, yakuake kicks BUTTer03:09
charles1952Okay folks ( CheeseBurgerMan Intelikey Agios ): It's aworkin' now...thank you for all the help. Also, one other quick question....I can connect to http: no problema...but when I run adept it seems to crash or stall a lot. I presume its based on FTP protocols....anya thing you all could suggest that I look at?03:09
Jucatothank the penguin god for Irssi!!!03:09
Jucatoand for the command line!!03:09
draikJucato, I bet you're happy with the classes03:09
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charles1952(Hope I'm not being greedy with all the support here!)03:09
Agioscharles1952: I suggest using apt-get from the command line :)03:10
Jucatodraik: yes! very03:10
CheeseBurgerMancharles1952: I doubt it's ftp, since all the official repos are http:03:10
draikSpeaking of which, I'm finishing up the transcripts from this past class03:10
draikThe first one is up and running, but it still has errors03:10
draikgotta fix them03:10
Jucatodraik: I'll get working on the 2nd CLI class. Thank goodness for nano03:10
charles1952Okay...I'll just work from command line for awhile and see if that helps...thanks folks. The beer is on NightHawk03:10
draikI am already done with the 2nd class03:10
draikI'm combining both03:10
Jucatoerr... would anyone happen to know how I can enable "beeping" in irssi?03:11
draikI finished the 1st class in a matter of minutes03:11
draikthe 2nd class was 3 HOURS LONG!!!03:11
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draikand it only had 3 STUDENTS03:11
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Jucatobut I think the 2nd class was a bit better? getting off-topic...03:11
charles1952BYe all03:11
draikthe 2nd class was good03:12
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intelikeycharles1952 apt-cache search <strings>    apt-cache show <package>     sudo apt-get install <package>       sudo apt-get remove <package>      it's that simple from the cli.03:12
intelikeytoo late.03:12
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draikJucato, back on topic, any luck with the package?03:12
draikI did 'sudo apt-get update' and got the adept package manager on the bottom telling me I have updates....03:13
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draikI'm ****SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO**** happy it's not a nagging thing like that other os **cough**winxp**cough**03:13
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intelikeyJucato what are you getting from startx  ?03:14
intelikeyFatal server error:03:14
intelikeyno screens found03:14
intelikeythat ^  ?03:14
draikIs there a fix?03:14
Jucatolooks like I have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core03:14
intelikeyi'm going back to the working version.03:14
draikhow do you downgrade through CLI?03:15
AgiosJucato: welcome to the club. A lot of people are having trouble with the update.03:15
intelikeyi'll use mc    you can dpkg -i filename03:15
Jucatodownload the dpkg... then dpkg -i03:15
draikthat's to install, though... isn't it?03:16
intelikeyAgios is an offical bug.03:16
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Jucatono offense meant, but I wonder if they really really really tested it before releasing it...03:17
intelikeydraik yes.  installing will over write the "bad" files.03:17
draikinstall it from where?03:17
r0xzanyone else boot problems with the new xserver package on dapper?03:17
draikr0xz, that's everyone's issue right now03:18
draikwell, almost everyone03:18
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r0xzthank god03:18
intelikeyr0xz no boot problem  but x wont run.03:18
Agioswget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb03:18
Agiossudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb03:18
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draikwhat is wget?03:18
UmInAsHoEanyone around?03:18
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UmInAsHoEdownloading application for the CLI03:18
Jucatodraik: CLI download manager03:18
CheeseBurgerMandraik: Command line download program.03:18
looktji hate xp for this http://moparisthebest.com/no.html  it restart ur computer03:18
moparisthebestthats my site, rofl03:19
UmInAsHoEanyone updated to recent sever?03:19
JucatoUmInAsHoE: if you haven't... DON'T03:19
UmInAsHoEi did03:19
moparisthebestlooktj, did it restart your computer?03:19
UmInAsHoEand i hate myself lol03:19
UmInAsHoEdidnt realise with would cut support for my gfx03:19
looktjwhen i was on xp it did03:20
UmInAsHoEit would*03:20
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moparisthebestoh yea, looktj it kills internet explorer :P03:20
looktjhi mopar i am taylor03:20
UmInAsHoEhow do i roll back?03:20
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moparisthebestand even older firefoxes03:20
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UmInAsHoEi kind of need a working gui03:20
UmInAsHoEas much as i love the cli03:20
Agiosscroll up and read :)03:21
Agiosoh, you jsut missed it03:21
Agioswget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb03:21
intelikeyok we need to adjust the topic to contain the url for the "working" xorg-core package.    who's got ops ?03:21
Agiossudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb03:21
Hawkwindsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:21
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HawkwindThat's an easier command for the fix03:21
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LeeJunFanyou don't need to --force-overwrite?03:21
Jucatoyeah, shorter, less prone to typos....03:21
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak03:22
UmInAsHoEthank you very much03:22
naliothintelikey: ?03:22
UmInAsHoEbrb see if it works :D03:22
Jucatocool! I love it when ubotu does that03:22
UmInAsHoEno more auto updates for me03:22
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intelikeythe last update of xserver-xorg-core is breaking X   and we need the topic to reflect that.03:23
naliothintelikey: may i be of service?03:23
HawkwindLeeJunFan: Just use that command I gave03:23
intelikeymaybe add    sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10    to the topic  or something03:23
naliothintelikey: this is default behavior upcoming. please /msg me03:23
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HawkwindHah, that was slightly mean03:24
LeeJunFanno kidding.03:24
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naliothHawkwind: calling !ops just to change the topic is not required. there are other less disruptive ways to get the /topic changed03:25
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Jucatosoo nice to see windows..03:25
LeeJunFannalioth: and who would know that other than the ops?03:25
Hawkwindnalioth: I know.  However, the topic change in this case does happen to be very very very important03:25
Jucatooooh! nice box thingy with exclamation point in my system tray!!!03:26
Jucatowonder what will happen if I click it?03:26
looktjmopar do u have msn?03:26
HawkwindJucato: LOL.  Click it and see :P03:26
ivan`which mode uses the least power: powersave or conservative, on a powerbook g403:26
CheeseBurgerManJucato: Pretty! :P03:26
moparisthebestI never use msn looktj03:26
moparisthebest<3 irc03:26
Hawkwindnalioth: Did intelikey PM you ?03:26
looktjoh ok03:27
naliothHawkwind: the channel is not set to have topic locking03:27
naliothHawkwind: making it even more of a "D'oh!"03:27
agnusticagnustic is actually considering installing kubuntu03:27
LeeJunFannalioth: but doesn't ubotu automatically change it back if changed?03:27
Hawkwindnalioth: I realized that earlier.  I just wasn't sure how the ops felt about anyone changing the topic or I would have done it earlier03:28
naliothLeeJunFan: no.03:28
naliothHawkwind: go for it03:28
Hawkwindnalioth: Thanks.  I just didn't want to step on anyones toes if you know what I mean :)03:28
looktjmopar is irc working?03:29
moparisthebestwhat are you trying to connect to?03:29
looktjdoesnt seem to log me into irc.moparisthebest.com03:29
moparisthebesttry irc.codestream.org instead03:29
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Hawkwind] : Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Your X broken, the fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
looktjthanks mopar03:31
Hawkwindsoulrider: Got a minute for a PM ?03:31
soulriderfor you, allways ;) <3           just kidding :P03:32
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Hawkwindsoulrider: Heh, thanks03:32
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edgarinHi to all03:54
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edgarinHi jucato03:55
edgarinhow are you?03:55
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Jucatodoing fine, considering what happened :-D03:55
JucatoNOTICE: Don't upgrade xserver-xorg-core yet!03:56
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ranunculoidirish_wopr: If you're irish then how come you IP address begins with "66" :-/ ? Imposter!03:56
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ivan`can I slow down my fans on a powerbook g4 somehow? OS X spun them down faster, and I'm already running in powersave @ 667mhz03:59
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lou80Hi, anyone know if it's possible to install kubuntu on a spare partition using apt?  Kind of like a netinstall with out involving a cd04:01
obf213anyone use scilab and can actually read the archaic font04:01
lou80something like "apt-get install kubuntu --target /dev/hda6"? :-)04:02
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looktjJucato i updated xorg by accident earlier04:04
Jucatowere you able to fix it now?04:04
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looktjidk how04:05
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Jucatolooktj: what are you using right now?04:05
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Winbox1having a problem. I just upgraded my machine and it upgraded xserver-xorg-core to 1:1.0.2 and now i can't log back in.. getting fatal server error. no screen found? how can i fix this04:06
larson9999exactly which package is all this display hoopla over?04:06
Jucatolarson9999: xserver-xorg-core04:06
JucatoWinbox1: look at the last sentence of the topic04:06
looktjhow can i check that04:07
unix_infidelanyone know how i can alter the runtime path in vim?04:07
looktjwhat am i using04:07
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Jucatolooktj: hm... let's start from the beginning. tell me what you did?04:07
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axiomIn an attempt to restore double-click (settings had no effect) I moved my ~/.kde folder somewhere else http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406779#post140677904:07
larson9999Jucato: so i have Installed version 1:1.0.2-ubuntu10.104:07
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axiombut now I have lost my e-mail (kmail)04:08
axiomI moved the folder back04:08
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axiomI thought04:08
axiombut /home/axiom/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/cur is empty04:08
axiomis it lost forever?04:08
larson9999LinuxNT?  is that the same thing as OS X?04:10
looktjJucato: i installed KDE today04:10
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Winbox1Jucato, I tired that fix, but now im getting ( No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'04:17
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Agios(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom04:19
Agios        No such file or directory.04:19
Agioslike that?04:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:19
larson9999Hawkwind: i have Installed version 1:1.0.2-ubuntu10.1 and not :1.0.2-ubuntu10, will this cause me issues or is it just some people?  i rebooted after i upgraded earlier today and don't notice anything funny.  chromium runs just fine.04:20
ivan`_fan control on ppc... any ideas/links? (it's hard to google)04:20
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Winbox1well i rebooted and now i can't log back in04:21
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Agioslarson9999: if you can get X up you are probably ok04:22
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larson9999Agios: it's been running fine for several hours now.  is this an xorg with nvidia thing?  i happen to be an ati on this box04:23
AgiosI don't think it's nvidia realted but I'm not sure.04:23
AgiosWinbox1: did you update your system today?04:23
Winbox1like 20 minutes ago04:24
Agiossee the topic, bad xorg is in updates. You will need to restore the old one.04:24
Agiosthe command to do that is in the topic04:24
Agiossudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1004:24
larson9999hmmmm, people having trouble and i'm not one of them?  that feels good in a bad sort of way04:24
Agiosdodged the bullet for once :)04:25
Jucatolarson9999: did you do any upgrades today? was xserver-xorg-core upgraded?04:25
Winbox1I tried that, but then i got.  input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Failed to initalize core devices04:25
Agiosyou can pull the wacom entries out of xorg.conf04:26
Agiosunless you have wacom devices of course, which is unlikely04:26
Winbox1what should i do about the kdb module?04:26
Winbox1No i don't04:27
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Agiossee if you have /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so04:27
larson9999Jucato: i did upgrade today.  about a dozen or so packages and from memory of my quick scan, most seem to be related to x.  i almost didn't upgrade since i know an x upgrade can be painful if things don't go well.  but i did upgrade and rebooted.  the version i have istalled now is :1.0.2-ubuntu10.1.  but the reason i rebooted is about 10 minutes after i upgraded my screen was filled with verticle stripes.  but things have been run04:27
larson9999ning fine since i rebooted about a few hours ago04:27
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bimberilarson9999: ...ubuntu10.1  is fine,  It's 10.3 that is the problem04:28
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Jucatowell, if that's the version that you're using, then xserver-xorg-core wasn't upgraded04:28
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larson9999bimberi: aha!  well the topic stops at 10 so i didn't know if 10.1 was the bad on or not.04:29
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larson9999Jucato: ok, i'll make sure i don't get that version04:30
dseeb_anyone else having trouble with the xserver-xorg-core update?04:30
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'04:30
Winbox1Agios it's not showing any kbd_drv.so = / how do i get it back?04:30
Agioslet me see what package owns it, one sec04:31
Agiosapt-get install xserver-xorg-input-kbd04:32
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Winbox1Agios dude thank you so much.. I can log in now..04:33
Jucatothree cheersfor Agios!!!04:34
Agiosalways nice to have a keyboard :)04:34
Winbox1lol sure is04:34
Winbox1I thought i was screwed there for a bit. Thought i was going to lose all my futurama episodes  =)04:35
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Winbox1I got all of them04:36
Winbox1and the chapelle shows04:36
edgarinsome program for administration of cyber cafe?04:36
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larson9999i go bragging and my system locks up again.  got to figure that out.  it's about twice a day now.04:37
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Agioslarson9999: memtest86 :)04:38
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larson9999Agios: that's a good idea.  think i'll do that now.04:38
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Jucato[advertisement]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky04:39
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draikSorry, I have LOVED transformers since I was a kid04:39
Jucatodarn! I thought I changed that?04:39
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Jucato2007... would I still be alive by then...04:39
larson9999Jucato: didn't you know?  transformers run on linux04:39
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larson9999Jucato: i'm not sure of the distro or if they need support though04:40
Jucatohm... they don't have a character that transforms into a desktop PC (complete with a table) yet do they?04:40
larson9999i transformer theme  is there such a thing?04:41
larson9999ok, memtest here i come04:41
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Agiosyes, it's the windows logo morphing into a ubuntu logo :)04:41
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draikOptimus prime is still a semi-truck, but now he's got flames04:42
Jucatohm... let me check this again...04:42
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)04:42
draikand they are changing the character's "body's"04:42
Jucatook.. better04:42
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draikJucato, can we support the usage of Kubuntu as bumper stickers on the autobots?!?!04:43
Jucatowhy not totally replace the Autobot logo with the Kubuntu logo?04:43
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draikThat's like changing tux on linux04:43
Jucatothen watch them fight each other to the death... then try to recall what "ubuntu" means04:43
draikyou can recognize them from far away04:44
erofeehi all04:44
draikhi erofee04:44
erofeei am having an issue installing kubuntu04:44
RanmaIs there a way to set Kopete to use another sound card for Gtalk?04:44
draikwhat is your issue erofee?04:45
erofeewhen i try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i get a broken package:  language-selector-qt04:45
draikwhat stage/part of the install?04:45
erofeei tried to install the package manually, but it is at the newest version04:45
draikI've never had that issue... you're making it up... next quesiton...04:46
draikjust kidding, but I never had that issue thought04:46
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draiklatest kubuntu?04:46
draikDapper Drake?04:46
erofeeyep, latest version.04:46
erofeeafter some more poking i found that that package depends on language-selector-common04:47
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looktjerofee do aptitude not apt-get04:47
erofeeapparently language-selector-qt needs language-selector-common 0.1.20 but i have installed04:47
erofeei will try with aptitude04:48
draikI have it installed, but not a single issue04:48
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide04:48
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erofeei have had it installed without a problem aswell, but this time i am getting the error04:48
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erofeeok, aptitude seems to be getting further, thanks.04:49
erofeeguess it's the simple solutions that work the best.04:50
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erofeequestion, is Edgy the next release after Breezy?04:51
Jucatoerofee: Dapper04:51
looktjedgy is next after dapper04:51
erofeesorry, that's what i meant04:51
JucatoBreezy (preivous) --> Dapper (current) --> Edgy (next)04:51
erofeehas anyone played with Edgy?04:51
looktjoh then yes04:51
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digivorehow do i find my internal IP address in kubuntu04:53
looktjo nvm04:53
looktjum system settings04:54
digivoreawesome, thanks04:54
erofeehow do i mark a package for installation in aptitude04:54
Jucatoerofee: sudo aptitude install <package_name>04:55
actinic+3.3V:     +3.34 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.47 V)04:55
actinic+5V:       +5.13 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)04:55
actinic+12V:     +11.49 V  (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)04:55
digivoreyes  all of those ways  work..  thanks looktj04:55
looktjsystem settings>network settings>click administrator mode04:55
actinicoops, sorry guys04:55
Agiosit's :)04:55
Jucatoerr.. actinic???04:55
erofeeyeah, but in aptitude, i thought you just selected the package and pressed "i" to mark it for installation.04:55
actinicslip of the 'ole fingers :)04:55
looktjdigivore read i said04:56
actinici'm playing with sensors04:56
looktjright after ur message04:56
Jucatoerofee: ah you're talking about the Aptitude GUI?04:56
erofeesorry again04:56
JucatoI'm not really familiar with it... I just use the direct commands...04:56
erofeei am not that long into linux, so i am not that good with the terminology04:56
Jucatono problem04:57
looktj!aptitude > Jucato04:57
AgiosIIRC there is a icon to the ledt of the package name, click on it and it expands. There is a install button there.04:57
Jucatolooktj: I know aptitude. I just don't use its GUI. I always do "sudo aptitude install <package>"04:57
Agiosthat marks it for installation04:58
erofeedoes anyone use anything else apart from kate for HTML editing?04:58
erofeeanything else?  i have had issues with quanta.04:58
CheeseBurgerManerofee: I don't really do much HTML editing, but I know that Quanta, Bluefish and NVU should work.04:58
CheeseBurgerManOh, nevermind about quanta. ;)04:58
looktjim gonna eat and end session because of updated time format04:59
looktjthen Kyle Xy04:59
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spazzargh! media never works in kubuntu05:01
Jucatospazz: which media?05:01
spazzmp3s, movies.05:01
spazzI tried installing codecs, but ... they didnt work05:01
spazzwith the autmatix. probably broke it.05:01
erofeedon't use automatix, it is evil05:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:02
spazz... too late now.05:02
Jucatospazz: did you see which codecs  were installed?05:02
spazzHow do I check?05:02
spazzWhat does automatix break?05:02
actinicspazz, u certain automatix is the culprit?05:02
Jucatospazz: check if the package "libxine-extracodecs" is installed05:03
spazzlol have no clue.05:03
erofeewhat media player do you use?05:03
spazzhow do i check that?05:03
spazzany that will work. like vlc though.05:03
actiniclol, it's my fault, I broke your system spazz :)05:03
spazzdamn you, lol05:03
spazzfix it. :D05:03
Jucatospazz: in Adept (K Menu > System)05:03
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spazzgoing there.. now.05:03
erofeea tip for once you get it all working, use amarok05:03
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spazzi try playing mp3s in amarok, but.. it goes through the song without any sound in like a few seconds and then says playlist finished.05:04
Jucatospazz: that's because the proper codecs weren't installed05:04
actinictry xmms spazz05:04
Jucatothey're going to fix that behaviour soon, though05:04
spazzadept wont open.05:04
spazzit asks for passwor..............there it goes.05:05
spazzafter the second time.05:05
spazzlibxine wasnt installed05:05
spazzthe extra codecs...05:05
spazzinstalling now.05:05
RanmaIs there a way to set Kopete to use another sound card for Gtalk?05:06
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erofeeuse aptitude.05:06
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spazz... i dont have that.05:07
spazzapt-get aptitude ?05:07
Jucatoaptitude is already installed by default05:07
spazzwhere is it?05:07
Jucatoaptitude? it's a command line program. it won't be in K Menu05:08
spazzoh ok05:08
erofeejust use sudo aptitude05:08
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spazzmp3s still not working .. installed the extra codecs.05:08
Jucatobtw, you can use the mouse in Aptitude as long as it's running in Konsole (or any other terminal)05:08
erofeei used aptitude to install kubuntu with my problem, i had to downgrade the problem packages to let it install.05:09
Jucatospazz: hm. try restarting amarok?05:09
spazzjust did05:09
actinicspazz turn on your speakers for cryin out loud! :)05:09
spazzthey are lol05:09
spazzsystem sounds worek05:09
spazzhey wtf05:10
spazznow its working lmfao.05:10
spazzi tried another song.05:10
actinicah ha!  ya turned on the speakers!05:10
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actinici knew it!05:10
spazzthey were on lol05:10
actinicyeah sure they were05:10
spazzi swear :P lol05:10
CheeseBurgerManspazz: Try playing the other song again.05:11
actinicbut only if it's a good song05:11
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spazzhooray it works.05:11
erofeesometimes the simplest solutions solve the biggest problems....if your computer won't turn on, check the power point......05:11
spazzsomtimes this damn thing is just slow05:11
spazzthing my hdd is dying ... for real.05:11
CheeseBurgerManGet a new one and backup ASAP.05:12
spazzI want to install my wacom tablet... hmm.05:12
CheeseBurgerManIf you couldn't guess. ;)05:12
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spazzhave all important files on external hdd05:12
CheeseBurgerManAh, good. :)05:12
spazzif it crashes.. eh oh well can always use live cd05:12
CheeseBurgerManTrue, although I'd rather run it off the hard drive. ;)05:12
spazzkaffeine wont play my avi file05:13
spazzcd is soo slow..05:13
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spazzbut think my hdd is slower than it now lol05:13
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actinick everyone post your fps by typing: glxgears -printfps05:14
spazzaha... video working.. if i open up kaffeine...and open up mplayer at the same time05:14
spazzSO. SLOW.05:15
spazzdropping ... all.. frames05:15
Jucatolol!!! I suddenly realized.... I wasn't using the nvidia binary drivers!!05:15
spazz...has ati.05:15
actinic :o05:15
Jucatowhen I downgraded xserver-xorg-core.. I forgot to set it back!!!05:16
Jucato @_@05:16
spazzHow do I find out if 3d accel is enabled??05:16
dr_willisrun quake4 :P05:16
Jucatospazz: type in "glxgears"05:16
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spazzit works... lol05:17
Jucatospazz: do the gears turn smoothly?05:17
bimberispazz: glxinfo | grep rendering05:17
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dr_willisheck ive sene them turn so fast they look slow. :P05:17
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actinicwow, another kubuntu folding member! http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=5123805:17
spazzDirect rendering : yes05:18
spazzI need to get the right video driver ... have ati mobility 750005:18
spazzarr, ancient pos.05:18
OODif you have direct rendering then you have the right video driver05:18
spazzthought it was just generic.05:19
spazzhmm wonder why videos are dropping frames05:19
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Jucatoactinic: what was that command again?05:19
Jucatoi can't see the fps...05:20
actinicglxgears -printfps05:20
actinicmy guess is you can't type :)05:21
Jucatooh there05:21
spazzsmall avi files work ok05:21
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spazzbut .... fullsize movies05:21
spazzdont work smoothly05:21
gaspock5ubotu: I <3 u05:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:22
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OODit needs an emotion chip to understand that05:22
spazzit didnt install vlc i dont think05:23
spazznot in menu05:23
spazzand wont open by running vlc command05:23
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actiniclol, podcasts i'm listening too is  "automatix vs bad comments about it on IRC, who's right'05:23
dr_willisI would guess irc.05:24
OODso, who's right?05:24
spazzI used autmatix to install some stuff05:24
actinicboth hosts like it05:24
Jucatoubotu is right...05:24
spazzand it didnt even work... right..05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is right... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
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actinic<--- sticks tongue out at people05:24
dr_willisdid they mention the huge flame war and liceing fight about it?05:24
JucatoI guess ubotu doesn't understand the language of love. It only understands 10011100100011110000105:24
OODyeah, as i said, it needs an emotion chip05:25
actinicwhat's that have to do with functionality?05:25
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actinicoh, they say most irc guys are noobs05:25
spazzI am so damn bored.05:25
spazz... movies. work. slow.05:25
Jucatoor someone could just teach ubotu something like love = 1; hate = 005:25
spazz:( no good games for linux.05:26
JucatoI consider Frozen Bubble a good game. :-D05:26
dr_willisGames are for the weak05:26
OODthere's a lot of good games for linux05:26
JucatoThough I would really go for a good RPG05:26
dr_willisand Rocks & Diamonds Rule.05:26
spazz:( sigh lol05:26
spazzMe too.05:26
dr_willisSLUNE is fun also05:26
OODand wine is decent from game to game05:26
Jucatowine is decent from anything to anything...05:27
actinicspazz, UT, Quake, ET ...05:27
dr_willisBeen playing Oblivian on the pc.05:27
dr_willisIts annoying.05:27
Jucatooh, and NWN, which I don'thave..05:27
spazzFound this huge list of05:27
spazzMMOPRG games .... all FREE.05:27
dr_willisYa got the various Quake3 code variants also. that are fun.05:27
dr_willisspazz,  Puzzle Pirates. :P05:27
spazzI want something I can download and install easily.05:27
spazzUT, and Quake, I want those.. hmm.05:27
dr_willisOOD,  thats one of them. :P05:28
dr_willistremulous makes me dizzy05:28
OODyeah, that game is the best opensource game05:28
dr_willisRTCW:ET is a must get05:28
Jucatowhat's it about? Tremolous, I mean?05:28
actinicyes indeed05:28
dr_willisMarines Vs Bugs05:28
OODit's a great multiplayer game05:28
OODRTS mixed with FPS05:28
spazzIs Quake .. or a varient free?05:28
dr_willisTakes some learning.05:28
spazzfor linux?05:28
dr_willisIts Q3 based. on the code05:28
dr_willis100% free05:28
Jucatogrr.... I guess most Linux game developers are more of the RTS/FPS types... T_T05:29
dr_willisTheres  also that FreeCraft  game. :P and many others at the "linux game tome"05:29
dr_willisxmoto - is fun05:29
actinicspazz: check out all the top flight games ... http://www.liflg.org/?catid=605:29
spazztop flight?05:29
actinicforgot about Doom 305:30
OODspazz: if you're into gaming, you should definitely check out WIne: www.winehq.org05:30
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spazzlooking now05:31
OODthere's a database of apps which you can browser around to see how well your game runs05:31
spazzcan never figure out05:32
spazzwhere to find the linux downloads for games05:32
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rrbizto add software do I unpound the universe or backport05:33
OODthis site has doom3 ET and quake4 downloads for linux: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/05:33
dr_willisTheres  also that FreeCraft  game. :P and many others at the "linux game tome"   <<--- google for the Linux game tome. :P05:34
OODtremulous, just google that05:34
dr_willisheh. or use synaptic/adept and search for games05:34
Jucatorrbiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:34
dr_willisrtcw:et is also a must get FPS.05:34
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OODi heard tremulous will be included in edgy's repo05:34
dr_willisHeh - that would be amuseing.05:34
dr_willisToo bad the game makes me want to Puke after playing it for 10 min. :)05:35
dr_willisdang wall crawling bugs.05:35
OODjust play as humans, not as confusing :P05:35
dr_willisOOD,  EVERYONE wants to play as the humans.,05:36
dr_willis:) i never can get in on the human side05:36
OODlol, i always prefer to play as aliens, as do a lot of other people05:36
dr_willisi cant even get the  game to run under windows.. oddly enough.. runs great under linux05:36
OODit's much more fun being able to wall walk05:37
spazzWhere do i get the quake engine05:37
OODquake the game isn't free05:37
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spazz.. thought there was free linux versiono fit05:37
spazzversion of it05:37
spazzwell i want something free05:37
clemonsKubuntu won't let two users both have sound at the same time05:37
spazzwhat about unreal tournament?05:38
clemons(if one user has his session locked and the other is logged in)05:38
spazzthat free on linux?05:38
OODthat game isnt free either05:38
spazzthe first one05:38
digivorewhat is swiftfox?05:38
spazzlike the original one05:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
clemonsNo one would make games if they weren't getting paid05:38
clemonsthey are too advanced05:38
OODnexuiz is a unreal tournament like game and it's free05:38
spazzhey i downloaded that the other day05:38
Jucatodigivore: I think it's a lighter and faster version of Firefox? I'm not sure...05:38
spazzon friends windows comp05:38
spazzi cant install windows on here05:38
clemonsactually, I've heard there is something kind of like quake too that is free05:39
spazzakways installation error05:39
OODJucato: it's firefox optimised for a certain processor05:39
digivoreahh ok05:39
clemonsbut it's still not unreal05:39
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digivoreand what is the application called 'wine'  is it an windows program emulator?05:39
dr_willisthe Quake 1,2,3 source code is now under the GPL. NOT the data files however. :P05:39
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:39
dr_williswine windowsbinary.exe05:39
OODdigivore: no, it's a program that lets you run windows progams in linux natively05:40
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digivorethanks...   wine not recommended for beginers to linux?05:40
dr_willisdigivore,  depends on what you are doing.05:40
OODit takes some tweaking to get it working depending on the app05:40
dr_williswine sol.exe05:40
dr_williswine winrar.exe05:40
dr_willisif i catching you using it to run mIRC i will slap you. :)05:40
digivoredoes wine come standard with kubuntu?05:41
Jucatorun wine to install VMWare Player for windows to run Kubuntu... would that be possible?05:41
OODdigivore: no05:41
OODyou have to install it05:41
OODJucato: not possible, VMWare install drivers, and wine can't run windows drivers05:42
OODthat would be ReactOS's job :P05:42
clemonswine can try05:42
spazzlinux so annoying05:42
Jucatook then, run VMWare Player to run XP to run VMWare Player for Windows to run Kubuntu :-D05:42
clemonsI find linux to be quite relaxing05:42
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Jucatospazz: how many distros have you tried out?05:42
clemonsI used to use gentoo05:43
spazzdunno. quite a few.05:43
OODthere's a learning and an annoying curve in linux'05:43
dr_willisGentoo was fun for a while.. then got annoying. :)05:43
spazzburned like 12 live cds testing diff ones out05:43
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spazzlike ubuntu/kubuntu cuz of the community05:43
clemonsI'd say gentoo was annoying all the way through05:43
Jucatospazz: and all of them had this problem with multimedia codecs?05:43
spazzeh, no.05:43
spazzive have ubuntu running perfectly fine before05:44
spazzbut then i broke the install05:44
spazzand ... flash 9 doesnt work yet05:44
spazzvideo playback is choppy05:44
dr_willisThe problem with Multimedia codecs - is theres too many LEGAL bull*@*@  limations and  just too many of them.05:44
spazz... argh. need new laptop.05:44
spazzgetting ... mac lol05:44
OODi just got the win32 codecs05:44
clemonsThe problem is they build everything for windows05:44
OODand i can run just about any media file05:44
clemonsI think (k)ubuntu is a huge step in the right direction for linux05:45
unix_infidelspazz: even mac has some drm limitations.05:45
dr_willisIve found many wmv's that dont work. :P or some really funky odd  formats.05:45
OODdr_willis: that's what you need the win32 codecs fore :D05:45
dr_willis i can show you some wmv's that the win32codec pack wont help. :P05:45
spazzI dun care, as long as I can do all my basic stuff .. download music/movies, burn cd/dvds, and play games. arrgh. so need new computer lol. this one aint cutting it.05:45
dr_willissince they want ya to install some Malware codecs from russian XXX sites. :)05:45
dr_willisheh heh.05:46
Jucatoof course, w32codecs doesn't play DRM'ed WIndows Media....05:46
dr_williswmv = just say no. :)05:46
OODyeah, i've encountered a few odd ball wmv's05:46
dr_willisand i post that on all these torrent 'comments'05:46
spazzI want a game that has a damn binary installer lol.05:46
spazzlike a 3d game..05:46
JucatoI have a few. I donwloaded it from an KidzOnline site, to which I'm registered05:46
dr_willis spazz  rtcw:ET05:46
spazzlike, fps, or rpg game..05:46
OODenemy territory05:46
dr_willisor trembulys05:46
spazznot free? or free..05:46
OODquake 405:46
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OODdoom 305:46
OODlist goes on05:47
spazzWant something FREE lol.05:47
dr_willistremulous - 100% GPL05:47
dr_willisfree and 'free'05:47
OODrtcw enemy territory is free as well05:48
OODand so is nexuiz05:48
spazzI want to get that..05:48
spazzand ..have nexuix on its own tab05:48
spazzits a .run file05:49
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spazzhow do i use that? last time i tried one of those it didnt work.05:49
OODis it an installer?05:49
OODgo into terminal, and type sh bla.run05:50
dr_willisrun it correctly. :P05:50
spazzit.. what?05:50
spazzwhats the bla?05:50
OODas in, sh yourfilename.run05:51
dr_willis<spazz> I want a game that has a damn binary installer lol.  <------- You got one. :P no quit ya belly acheing!05:51
spazzoh ok05:51
dr_willisLinux Tip #1  - when in doubt 'think'05:51
dr_willisyourfilename.run  - command not found05:51
spazzLinux Tip #2 - when something doesn't 'work' raise hand and 'break' it.05:51
dr_willis#2 - when somthing dosent work - its proberly the users fault.05:52
dr_willisNope.. it works for them :)05:52
spazz( /sweat )05:52
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ubuntuI've hooped my X11 some how I've get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx06:14
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rrbizis there a backup xorg.conf in X11 dir?06:15
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CraZy674i'll check06:15
manzuktell me CraZy674 exactly what u did before the error appeared06:15
CraZy674manzuk: installed unsupported things trying to get mp3s working06:16
manzukmmm, what do u mean?06:17
CraZy674manzuk: not registered hold on06:18
macconlinekaramba or superkaramba.. ???06:18
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Goop2I was trying to compile an icon theme and it said "make: command not found"06:21
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ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715806:23
CraZy675is there a log of everything i've apt-getted? so I can un install things that screwed up my x11?06:24
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CraZy675I've hooped my X11 some how I've get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx06:25
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bimberiCraZy675: have a look at that factoid from ubotu (above)06:26
zavenhQuestion: I have plugged in an external Hardrive to transfer some filess off my Kubuntu desktop (Dapper). It says I need write access. How do I give myself write access?06:27
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CraZy675i broke it by installing programs06:27
CraZy675that link i get a 50306:27
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zavenhblarghm, damn scroll wheel06:28
bimberiCraZy675: what does 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core' say for the package Version06:28
CraZy675i've tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that doesn't work06:28
CraZy675bimberi:  will that work from the live CD06:29
bimberiCraZy675: hm, i think launchpad is down atm :|06:29
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CraZy675i'm chatting using the live/install cd cause i'm to much of a noob to use command line06:29
bimberiCraZy675: what work? the update?06:29
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bimberiCraZy675: no, you will need to do it from command line once booted normally06:30
bimberiCraZy675: there is an easier command that downgrades 2 versions: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:31
timi_you cant read scilab06:31
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bimberiCraZy675: that has been working for people06:32
CraZy675bimberi: cool, can't i just chroot my partition and then sudo apt-get  install xser...... ?06:32
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bimberiCraZy675: probably, but that's out of my experience sorry06:33
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CraZy675bimberi: ok cool thanks06:33
bimberiCraZy675: np :)06:34
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zavenhhow do I go about installing WINE on kubuntu?06:41
Dasnipaby installing the package06:42
draiksudo apt-get install wine06:42
zavenhthanks draik06:42
zavenhi get this06:43
zavenhPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:43
zavenhThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:43
zavenhis only available from another source06:43
rrbizI saw a link that adds a different repository for wine, something like from headquarters or so06:43
zavenhso, yeah, it didn't work :\06:43
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rrbizand was setup for ubuntu as well as debian06:43
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mighty-dhi, i want to send messages to users in the same box within x06:44
zavenhwell isn't kubuntu basically ubuntu with KDE?06:44
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rrbizhere's the link : http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb06:45
zavenhyeah, I already got there, but I don't have that Synaptic thing they mention06:46
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rrbizyou can also use konsole and modify sources.list, do you know how to do that?06:46
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obf213what package do i need to download to have my wifi find networks at boot06:47
obf213i thought i saw it early but when i checked a gain i couldnt remember how to find it06:47
rrbizokay here's an easier one, open kde menu, click on run, then type kdesu kwite, then open /etc/apt/sources.list and that line in there, and save06:48
zavenhcommand kwite cannot be found06:48
obf213what package06:48
zavenhor did you mean kwrite?06:49
rrbizobf213: I'm trying to figure out a way to get my wifi web setting auto setup while bootup, only know gnome does it06:49
rrbizoh yeah kwrite06:49
zavenhdo i need to put # before each line?06:50
obf213i think i found it rrbiz06:50
rrbizthe # means it's ommited, so you need to remove the # for the line you want enabled06:51
rrbizobf213: what's that?06:51
zavenhoik, saved06:51
zavenhnow what :\06:51
obf213wifi radar06:52
zavenhooh, ok, i think i figured out the rest06:52
rrbizis that the name of the package?06:52
rrbizzavenh, yeah it's not too difficult, just follow the instructions on that site06:53
obf213rrbiz yes06:53
zavenhok, I have another problem. I need write access to an external drive, which I apparently dont have06:53
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rrbizhmm, for that one there's a file you need to modify, I think it's called fstab or something let me check06:54
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obf213rrbiz it doesnt seem to open06:54
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rrbizhttp://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html < here's some good instructions06:55
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Genericanyone have recommendations for alternate file explorers?07:00
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abattoirGeneric: krusader?07:02
ubotukrusader: Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1940 kB, installed size 5280 kB07:02
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spazzHow do I figure out why my divx/xvid videos and large avi/mpeg files (over 300mb) keeps dropping frames ... like.. getting probably 2 or 3 less frames per second.07:04
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rrbizGeneric: Rox is pretty cool also07:05
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Genericwhere the deuce am i signing on from?07:08
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Ashexthat's going to get old real quick07:09
k31thjust going to setuip kubuntu on this wacky old p3 800 with 512mb ram lol07:09
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k31thsee how it goes...07:09
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draikJucato, you rang?07:10
Jucatoactually, I beeped07:10
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Jucatohow are inteliwasp and intelikely related?07:11
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inteliwaspi wonder how hard it is to make a program to show the ip address and what ever else on a pop-up window like thunderbird does in windows...07:14
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a-prioriinteliwasp: you can do this from the console07:17
inteliwaspi'm no programer...07:18
poningruinteliwasp: whats wrong?07:20
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poningruwhat does tbird do on windows that it doesnt do in linux?07:20
a-prioriinteliwasp: okay, can you give more info about what you want?07:20
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inteliwaspi'm not shure if the linux version does it but when you get mail, there is a small window that rolls up from th lower right that says "you have # new mesages"07:22
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a-prioriI don't use thunderbird myself, but I'd be surprised if it didn't...07:23
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fyyrest0rmHi guys.. i'm new here and am having a little problem..hopefully someone can help me? I've just installed Kubuntu and am trying to access something on another machine (http://hostname:port) and i keep getting a "can't connect" type error..but its working from other machines07:24
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a-priorifyyrest0rm: can you give more info? what are you trying to access on this other machine?07:26
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fyyrest0rma-priori: 2 things, a web interface for a bittorrent client and a web interface for tightvnc07:27
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fyyrest0rmi can ping the machine, but thats it07:27
fyyrest0rmhowever from another (windows) machine I can access the web interfaces just fine07:28
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a-prioriokay... that's weird07:28
fyyrest0rmi've tried firefox and konqueror thinking maybe konqueror just had a problem but no-go either way07:29
a-prioriso you're entering the same url into your browser as you do on windows, and it can't connect?07:29
fyyrest0rmwindows connects, kubuntu does not07:29
a-prioritry entering that computer's IP address manually07:30
Jucatodoes anyone know when it will be safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core?07:30
a-priorii.e, substituting "azureus" with that computer's IP07:30
matt___jucato do you think that it is not safe?07:30
Jucatomatt___: I know that it's not yet ok07:30
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matt___jucato opps Ive just done an update and i think it installed xserver-xorg-core07:32
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Jucatomatt___: you haven't restarted X, have you?07:32
a-priorifyyrest0rm2: heh, okay07:32
a-priorifyyrest0rm2: you get my last message?07:32
matt___how do I roll back do you know?07:32
Jucatoread the last part of the topic07:32
fyyrest0rm2a-priori: probably not..last I saw you asked if I was typing the same url07:33
a-priori<a-priori> try entering that computer's IP address manually07:33
a-priori<a-priori> i.e, substituting "azureus" with that computer's IP07:33
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a-prioriJucato: wise-ass, eh? :-P07:34
matt___jucato - sorry what last part of the topic?07:34
fyyrest0rm2a-priori: that way works07:34
a-prioriokay... I think I know what the problem is07:34
Jucato"Your X broken, the fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"07:34
k31thhum anyone think of a nice way to script auto ssh script, i have like 8 machines i shell to on a daily basis...07:34
a-priorion Windows, the name is being resolved through SMB, not DNS07:35
draikJucato, would you recommend I upgrade to the new xserver-xorg-core and then apply the fix?07:35
matt___thank you jucato07:36
fyyrest0rm2a-priori: lemme guess../etc/hosts? lol07:36
a-prioriyeah, that's one way to solve it07:36
Jucatodraik: nope. The "fix" is actually downgrading what you upgraded...07:36
draikhow do I find out what version I have?07:36
fyyrest0rm2a-priori: is there a better way?07:36
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inteliwaspis it posible to have transparent terminals that can show the windows behind it?07:36
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inteliwaspi mean the konsole07:37
draikinteliwasp, that's all about the settings07:37
draikyou can set the transparency07:37
draikor just use 'yakuake'07:37
draikI use it and I'm happy07:37
Jucatotransparent, but you can't see the windows behind it07:37
Jucatoyou can only see the wallpaper beneath everything else07:38
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draikdo you have a reason for wanting transparency or just for the looks?07:39
noaXessgood morning..07:39
draikgood night07:39
a-priorifyyrest0rm2: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88206.html07:39
Jucatogood morning! (afternoon here!)07:39
a-priorithat guy seems to be doing what you want07:39
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inteliwaspmostly so i can monitor 2 things at once on my laptop ;)07:40
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fyyrest0rm2a-priori: woot! looks like that'll work. thanks07:40
a-priorino problem07:40
a-priorilet me know if it works07:40
noaXessi get following error from logrotate: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: error running postrotate script07:42
noaXessnow.. how can i find out, which logrotate script causes this error?07:42
inteliwaspooo that yakuake is just niiiice07:43
fyyrest0rm2a-prior: yep. that did the trick :)07:43
fyyrest0rm2trying to get all these little things worked out so i can ditch windows completely lol07:44
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matt___does anyone know of the ubuntu counter?07:45
matt___it counts the number of ubuntu users and kubuntu users07:45
Hobbseematt___: indeed07:45
Hobbseethere's also a linux counter07:46
matt___ok i've just found it  http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/07:46
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matt___i see that kubuntu is only at 15% - I would have through that it would be about 50/50 between Kubuntu and Ubuntu07:47
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fyyrest0rm2lol don't make it easy to play mp3 do they07:48
Jucatowhoa... I didn't notice Hobbsee was in ^_^07:49
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Hobbsee|2minsJucato: indeed.  for a little bit07:50
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Hobbsee|2minsnot for much longer though07:50
Jucatolast 2 mins and counting!07:50
jamadagni@jucato: what 2 mins?07:51
Jucatojamadagni: in Hobbsee's name...07:51
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Jucatonah! Kubuntu r0xx0rz!07:52
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jamadagniok guys i need your help07:52
Hobbsee|2minsjamadagni: until my battery runs out07:53
Hobbsee|2minsnow it's showing 1 min07:53
Hobbsee|2minsand the battery meter is showing as emtpy07:53
Jucato O_o07:53
jamadagnii used07:54
jamadagniwget --recursive --tries=inf --level=inf -nH --cut-dirs=7 --accept ``*i386.deb'',``*all.deb'' --reject ``*-dev*.deb'',``*-dbg*.deb'' -np -N ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu/pool-dapper/07:54
jamadagnito download the latest kde packages for dapper for i38607:54
Jucatoerrr... jamadagni...07:54
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Jucatoyou don't want to use apt-get or Adept?07:54
Hobbsee|2minsJucato: guess we'll see how accurate it is :P07:54
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Hobbsee|2minsicky.  why not just install kubuntu-desktop, and add that mirror to your sources list?07:55
Hobbsee|2minsUptime: 1 hours and 25 minutes07:55
jamadagniwell i have a problem with my net connection which prevents me from using apt-get directly07:55
draikHey Hobbsee|2mins07:55
Hobbsee|2minshi draik07:55
draiktesting out the battery07:56
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Hobbsee|NoBatterwe'll see how long it lasts07:56
Jucatono batter?07:56
Hobbsee|NoBatteryeah - no powerpoints nearby07:56
Hobbsee|NoBatterJucato: character limit07:56
JucatoI had batter and bread for breakfast07:56
draikI haven't had batter in a long time07:56
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jamadagnisee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206692&highlight= for the problem i am facing07:59
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jamadagniso i am forced to download the packages using wget07:59
jamadagniand when i do sudo apt-get upgrade after adding a line to my local repository to sources.list, i get:07:59
fyyrest0rmok i have another question: Trying to use ssh to get to a friends server..however the login there is 'root'..and my login here is 'storm'..when i ssh IP it asks for a pw, and obviously the username is wrong so it doesnt work..anything i can do on my end?08:00
Jucatojamadagni: use pastebin if you're going to post multiple lines08:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:00
jamadagniok sorry. i just read about it at wikipedia but did not figure out how to use it... one min08:01
Moodlesis there games that work on gnome, that don't work on kde?08:02
Jucatojamadagni: so you're saying that you can't update using the apt-get even when you add the special repository for KDE 3.5.4?08:02
jamadagnijucato: that's right08:02
jamadagnijucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21365 -- is this how i use the pastebin?08:02
jamadagniok then08:03
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jamadagniis there a kubuntu applet that helps easy pasting?08:03
Jucatowhat do you mean by "easy pasting"?08:04
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jamadagnithere appears to be an applet for gnome called webboard - see http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/extras/08:04
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jamadagniok anyway what to do about my error? what is teh reason?08:04
Jucatojamadagni: try using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of plain "upgrade"08:05
Jucatobtw, is there a particular reason why you absolutely need KDE 3.5.4?08:05
jamadagniwell just for fun08:05
JucatoI can't personally recommend it, yet08:05
jamadagniwhy not?08:05
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Jucatoit has some bugs here and there...08:05
JucatoSystem Settings crashing, media:/ and HAL not always working properly, etc etc etc08:06
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JucatoHobbsee|NoBatter: you're still here! that must be one strong battery! :-D08:06
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mcrandellohi is there any way other than /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to block modules from loading?08:16
mcrandellowell other than diking them out with chmod 00008:16
Jucatooh she's gone...08:16
mcrandellobecause I have all this stuff listed in there and they're still loading :(08:18
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mcrandellothere a whole bunch of stuff, the cpu frequency for instance that doesn't really apply (celeron)08:21
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mcrandelloand a lot of other stuff I'm simply not using08:21
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Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)08:27
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:40
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utabI had a printer problem, when i installed the printer by the GUI, it printed the test page without problems but now no output on the device08:44
utabthe printer is a network printer08:45
jendeHi folks! Has anyone of you xampp installed?08:46
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AmeasAnyone in here?08:54
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Hobbseequite possibly08:54
thykovirtually ...08:54
Jucatowhoa! Hobbsee you're back! never saw you creep back in...08:54
HobbseeJucato: i just got back :)08:54
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Jucatooooh... I see08:55
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AmeasCould anyone recommend a decent filesharing program to me? it seems all the linux versions wont work for me, and ktorrent doesnt want to work right either.08:56
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noiesmoAmeas, check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#08:57
Ameasah.. thanks alot!08:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
mcrandelloanyone know what overrides /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in ubuntu?08:58
Hobbsee!foo is bar08:58
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee08:58
ubotufoo is bar08:58
Hobbsee!forget foo08:58
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee08:58
Hobbseeyay, Seveas fixed the bot08:58
mcrandelloseems broken you told it to forget something but it's going to remember it08:58
fyyrest0rmok..is there any way to change the clock to a 12-hour format? its driving me nuts08:59
Hobbsee!ubuntuguide is <reply>The Ubuntu Guide is old and out of date, please dont use it.  see wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com for more recent information08:59
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee08:59
ubotuThe Ubuntu Guide is old and out of date, please dont use it.  see wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com for more recent information08:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
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Hobbseeit's working08:59
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:59
Hobbseebimberi: know what the old ubuntuguide factoid was?08:59
Jucatoer.. not that one..08:59
Hobbsee!botabuse > Jucato09:00
Jucatoaaaah thanks09:00
bimberiHobbsee: nope sorry09:00
SeveasHobbsee, err, ubuntuguide is much better now09:00
Seveasthe factoid was intentionally removed09:00
Hobbsee!forget ubuntuguide09:00
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee09:00
HobbseeSeveas: ah, okay then :)09:00
Seveasmcrandello, it'll remember that it has forgotten it09:00
debfyyrest0rm: kcontrol->region& Accessibility -> contry/Region & language -> time an date tab09:01
Ameasok it tells me to type "sudo apt-get install azureus" yet it cant find azureus..09:01
Seveas(it doesn't forget anything, just replaces text with special text to indicate forgotten)09:01
mcrandelloAmeas: try apt-cache search azureus09:01
bimberiforget will be handy when all my xorgbug* factoids become out of date09:01
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mcrandelloif it's not in there you may need to enable universe/multiverse to get it09:02
Ameashm no that command doesnt even register with the terminal09:02
Ameasit just goes to another line.09:03
fyyrest0rmdeb: thanks :)09:03
mcrandelloSeveas: still it seems like the bot is being contrary09:03
mcrandellomaybe something like: "Already forgotten!" or "Forget what?"09:03
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Ameasok using bittornado instead09:04
mcrandelloAmeas: that means it isn't available at all in the repos you have enabled09:04
Ameasthanks..but i got bittornado to start installing09:04
debAmeas: enable the universe repository, do a apt-get update and then run the command apt-get install azureus09:04
Ameasdeb: how do i type an apt get update? (im new to all this)09:05
mcrandellojust "sudo apt-get update" in a console09:05
debAmeas: in ternimal09:06
Ameasok cool09:06
debAmeas: U can download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/azureus09:06
mcrandellothat should show a list scroll by where it quickly hits a number of servers and gets a new fresh list from at least two :)09:06
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fyyrest0rmhmm...how do i configure hardware acceleration?09:09
mcrandellofyyrest0rm: depends on the video card09:10
fyyrest0rmnvidia 520009:10
fyyrest0rmi'm a complete noob here..am i supposed to install nvidia drivers?09:11
fyyrest0rmhehe thanks09:12
mcrandellothere's a guide for the nvidia drivers there, and always remember this, no matter how hairy it seems us ATI guys have it 10 times worse ;P09:12
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fyyrest0rmyep..i ran gentoo on a radeon once upon a time..i remember the headaches09:12
utabprinter installed but no response, it printed the test page but no others09:13
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utabsome people logged on09:21
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dan_I need to downgrade libio-socket-ssl-perl to version 0.96 (currently 0.97) to make SSL works with popfile but I can't figure how...09:23
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mcrandellodoes powernowd to anything other than make the cpu frequency scaling module things load?09:25
mcrandellodespite my explicit blacklisting of them >:(09:25
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tariany one know of a good stable development tool for linux that uses pascal as it lang09:29
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mcrandellotari: maybe something like scite, not really an IDE but has syntax highlighting for damn near everything09:31
mcrandellothere is a gnu pascal compiler that's supposed to work09:31
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tariI know about lazarus .. a pritty cool freepascal IDE but it's just not enough I need somthing more like delphi09:32
tariyes file09:35
mcrandelloborland is making a new turbo series no idea if that includes linux ports09:35
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tariclick file from the menue09:35
jaffa_join channel #DevelopersGuild09:36
JucatoHawkwind: you there?09:36
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KabalGood morning all :)09:47
KabalI just got a notice of package update.. Xorg update.. I installed it.. now my desktop won't start anymore..09:47
olivergoodie ....09:47
deeoso... like, adept is telling me to update my xorg-core, again.  the fix seemed to be a 'rollback', has the package in apt been updated?  that is, it's wanting to install version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3, so is .2 the broken one?09:47
JucatoKabal: the "fix" can be found at the last part of the topic09:47
Kabalah damn I overlooked it09:48
Jucatodeeo: no, the .3 is the broken one09:48
Kabalthanx Jucato09:48
Jucatojust ignore the update notice09:48
deeothought so, glad i didn't jump the gun.09:48
forbidden_fruitI'm getting this error:09:48
forbidden_fruit[13:17]  [DCOP]  Error: Could not execute script "/home/user/38231-amarok.pl". Check file permissions.09:48
forbidden_fruitI'm trying to execute a script as an alias under Konversation09:48
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forbidden_fruitWhat permissions do I need?09:49
Jucatoforbidden_fruit: did you check if the script is exectuable?09:49
forbidden_fruitHow do I do that Jucato?09:49
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forbidden_fruitI downloaded it from somewhere actually09:49
deeoso, it's just staying broken until further notice?09:49
Jucatoforbidden_fruit: right-click on the file, then in the permissions tab, enable "is executable"09:49
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forbidden_fruitJucato: its ticked09:50
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Jucatodeeo: seems so. not really sure...09:50
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SillyZHawkind? well well09:50
KabalJucato: that worked allright.. :)09:50
KabalBut why do they release so quickly?09:50
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Jucatono idea...09:50
Jucatoforbidden_fruit: hm...09:50
oliverhi, how do I start openoffice (writer) with root permissions to install dictionaries system wide ???09:50
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sganeshhi all, I installed thunderbird (using .deb package) but now I cannot run thunderbird. when I execute /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin , it says the following09:51
SillyZHey btw, dev's for kubuntu , reiserfs is missing from the drop down of filesystem types in a fresh kubuntu installation09:51
JucatoSillyZ: errr...09:51
deeoSillyZ: probably in the alternate installer.09:51
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deeoxfs isn't there either.09:51
sganesherror while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:51
jaffa_kdesu openoffice09:51
Jucatoreiserfx and xfs really aren't supposed to be there, last I checked...09:52
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SillyZwell its not there trust me, did the install twice to make sure09:52
SillyZstraight kubuntu 6.06.109:52
forbidden_fruitJucato: any ideas?09:53
JucatoSillyZ: it's not there. I mean that they didn't build the functionality in the installer, AFAIK09:53
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SillyZaye i had to create the filesystem manually with a mkfs.reiserfs which is therre09:53
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oliverjaffa: that was easy, i tried from a console (sudo), i didn't think of kdesu (its to early this morning), thanks for the hit on the head09:53
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Jucatoforbidden_fruit: sorry, none...09:54
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SillyZjust dont understand why it was left out as its a rather popular filesystem in the linux community09:54
jaffa_oliver  kdesu openoffice then type root password that should do the trick09:55
SillyZaslo, was kdevelop dropped ?  Cant seem to find that one either09:55
Jucatopopular, but not the default. the Desktop CD is supposed to be a very, very, very basic install with very basic defaults. Geared more towards beginners who would probably know nothing about the difference between ext3 and reiserfs09:56
Jucato!info kdevelop309:56
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB09:56
deeodoes anybody remember... when that 2.4 kernel came out with reiser, and it ended up corrupting the entire filesystem after a few days or so09:56
deeothen it happened again a little later with ext3, in the 2.6 series09:57
deeonow i'm worried that xfs is next09:57
JucatoSillyZ: kdevelop wasn't dropped09:57
SillyZah ok, was looking for kedevelop, not kdevelop309:57
SillyZso Hawkind's an op around here, how very intresting09:57
SillyZknow him from the Mandrake support days09:57
Jucatohe's still supporting Mandriva, iirc09:57
SillyZaye i figured he proabably would be09:58
SillyZif ya run into him tell em sillyz says heya09:58
sganeshhi all, can someone tell me why I am unable to run thunderbird after installing the same on kubuntu, when I try run the command manually (/usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin) it says the following and nothing comes up09:58
sganesh./mozilla-thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:58
JucatoOk. I'll tell him you said hi if I run over him09:58
SillyZheeh thnks09:58
SillyZi got 5 diskettes here, just itching to be installed xubuntu09:59
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SillyZthanks yall09:59
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rrbizwhich package do I need, to be able to build with make?10:05
Jucatorrbiz: you need to install "build-essential"10:05
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:05
Jucato!info build-essential10:06
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB10:06
rrbizI tried that, and apt says it's not finding it10:06
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Jucatorrbiz: have you been able to install anything from apt-get?10:06
unix_infidelanyone here on a laptop using ati?10:06
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Jucatorrbiz: check your sources.list and make sure that this line isn't disabled/commented: "deb http://xx.archive.ubunt.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" (where xx is your local server: us, uk, gb, au, fr, etc)10:07
unix_infidelor rather, someone here with a laptop using the radeon driver10:07
fyyrest0rmanyone care to help me out with getting my nvidia card going? I've tried the guide that was listed earlier and A) the script borked my system and I had to reinstall..B) the manual install isn't working..keep getting a command not found error10:08
unix_infidelas opposed to the default ati driver10:08
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jaffa_fyyrest0rm ok you have to have the nvidia  restricted headers10:10
fyyrest0rmjaffa: noob here lol10:10
fyyrest0rmjaffa: what do I need to do?10:11
fyyrest0rmso far all i've done is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"10:11
Jucatofyyrest0rm: have you tried this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper use method 110:13
jaffa_ok go to you adept and only install these Nvidia-glx , Nvidia-kernel-common and Nvidia-kernel-source10:13
Jucatoactually, fyyrest0rm also needs the linux-restricted-modules for his kernel...10:14
jaffa_ok get that also10:14
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fyyrest0rmadept says that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already installed10:18
fyyrest0rmas well as linux-restricted-modules-38610:18
sleeptyperhumm... skype 32bit in 64bit kubuntu... how i do that ?10:19
Jucatofyyrest0rm: what kernel version are you using? (the output of 'uname -r')10:19
Jucatofyyrest0rm: ok, now install nvidia-glx (nvidia-settings will be removed)10:19
jaffa_why does the Nvidia settings mess up evrything?10:20
Jucatobecause nvidia-glx installs its own nvidia settings stuff, AFAIK10:20
fyyrest0rmnow what?10:21
Jucatofyyrest0rm: in the command line, type "sudo nvidia-xconfig"10:21
fyyrest0rmnew X configuration file written10:21
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: ok, just take note of the name of the old xorg.conf10:22
Jucatonow, restart X10:22
Jucatofyyrest0rm: yep. save everything that needs saving first10:23
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korielhow come that I have the latest xine version and libs but still I can't play some dvds because I get some key decode error?10:24
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tarikoriel you need to get hold of libdvd10:31
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fyyrest0rmno go on the nvidia: [EE]  no deviced detected. Fatal server error. no screens found10:36
Jucatofyyrest0rm: did it work?10:36
fyyrest0rmjucato: nope10:36
Jucatofyyrest0rm: did you perform an update earlier? one that says xserver-xorg-core will be upgraded?10:37
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fyyrest0rmjucato: i believe so10:37
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Jucatook, that's the problem10:37
fyyrest0rmjucato: i think that was one of them that adept popped up10:37
fyyrest0rmso is it fixable or am i borked again?10:37
Jucatothe last part of the topic has the command10:38
fyyrest0rmdoh hehe10:38
Jucatothen try again :-D10:38
Jucato(restart X)10:38
korieltari: I got libdvdread3, libdvdplay0 libdvdcss2 libdvdnav410:39
fyyrest0rmok..the monitor i'm currently on is old and a bit fuzzy..is that 1:1.0.2.etc?10:39
tarithat sounds about right ok10:39
Jucatofyyrest0rm: it has nothing to do with it, I think10:40
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Jucatoerr.. sorry I didn't understand your question...10:41
Jucatosudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1010:41
fyyrest0rmmy monitor is a bit fuzzy..i'm trying to read the command in teh topic10:41
fyyrest0rmso it is a : then?10:41
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fyyrest0rmk..just looked wierd to have a : in a filename10:41
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Jucatoit's actually not a filename, I think10:41
fyyrest0rmso run that, then redo the nvidia-xconfig?10:42
Jucatothen restart X again10:42
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fyyrest0rm"couldn't find package xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1010:44
Jucatofyyrest0rm: that was an equal sign "=" after the word "core"10:45
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fyyrest0rmtold ya the monitor was fuzzy lol10:45
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liouncourti`m a newbie on linux10:47
liouncourtand i need some help10:47
Jucatofyyrest0rm: well?10:48
liouncourtcan someone help me?10:48
trpr_liouncourt: we can try. whats your question?10:48
fyyrest0rmjucato: that did it :)10:48
liouncourti have kubuntu10:48
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: glad it's finally fixed :-D10:48
Jucato!seen tk10:48
ubotutk is on IRC right now!10:48
fyyrest0rmjucato: me too lol..thanks10:48
liouncourtand i can`t use add remove10:48
tkerr, sup Jucato?10:49
Jucatohm.... the sky? ^_^10:49
liouncourthow i can make update?10:49
JucatoAdvisory Warning: Don't perform the update on xserver-xorg-core yet...10:50
liouncourti read faq and there they say to use add remove10:50
liouncourtbut on my kubuntu i see update but i can use theme10:50
liouncourtany ideea?10:51
Jucatootherwise, you will experience what I dub as Linux's BSOH10:51
Jucatothe Black Screen of Hell!!!10:51
trpr_liouncourt: you mean adding / removing software? KMenu->System->Adept is a nice gui for handling that stuff10:51
trpr_liouncourt: otherwise i am not sure i understand10:52
Jucatothe Add/Remove Programs is.... crippled.... inadept... help me think of a "kind" word...10:52
Jucatoliouncourt: ok, let's try this10:52
Jucatoliouncourt: Is this a new installation of Kubuntu?10:53
liouncourtand when i install i need to unplug the cable of network10:54
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liouncourtbecause he try to connect to server10:54
liouncourtbut i have an pppoe with pass and user10:54
__osh__Is there a magnet-link feature in ktorrent?10:54
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liouncourtafter install i plug the internet cable10:55
liouncourti config pppoe10:55
liouncourtbut i can make updates10:55
Jucatoliouncourt: ok, I think I get the picture10:55
trpr_Jucato: he needs to fill his sources.list, ya?10:55
liouncourtso you have any ideea what it is?10:56
Jucatohe just needs to enable them10:56
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liouncourti think10:56
liouncourtbut how10:56
Jucatoliouncourt: ok, first go to K Menu > System > and launch Adept (Package Manager)10:56
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liouncourti do this10:56
Jucatonow, go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories10:57
Jucatonow, right click on every line that starts with "deb" (not with "deb-src") and right-click on those and select "Enable"10:57
JucatoEXCEPT those lines with "dapper-backports"10:57
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liouncourtdapper-backports i enable them?10:59
Jucatoliouncourt: no. they're useless (for now)11:00
Jucatook, click on Apply (at the bottom), then on "Fetch Updates" (at the top)11:00
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liouncourtdownloading something..........11:00
liouncourt] :)11:00
Jucatojust wait for it to finish11:01
satempleris the xorg update fixed yet11:01
liouncourtwhy he don`t do this from first time?11:01
Jucatosatempler: I don't think so... too scared to check...11:01
Jucatoliouncourt: because you didn't have an interenet connection when you installed Kubuntu11:01
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satemplerto scared to reboot my self just found out on digg11:01
satemplerI already have it i suppose11:02
satemplerthe broke package11:02
liouncourtnow i have so many "not installed"11:02
liouncourtwhat i do?11:02
Jucatoliouncourt: er... have fun?11:02
liouncourtnow i can make updates/11:03
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Jucatoliouncourt: those "not installed" are the packages that are available from the online repositories.11:03
Jucatoliouncourt: you just did, when you pressed Fetch Updates11:03
liouncourtfrom now i can handle?11:03
liouncourtthanks very much11:03
Jucatoliouncourt: probably :-D11:04
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liouncourti use ubuntu in the past...........11:04
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Jucatoliouncourt: you might want to take a peek at the Kubuntu Desktop Guide  in "Help"11:04
liouncourtbut this is the most "beautiful" release11:04
Jucatovery nice and simple document, made with new users in mind11:04
liouncourti go to eat11:05
Jucatook. bon apetit11:05
liouncourtthanks again11:05
liouncourtwhere are you from?11:05
liouncourti`m from romania11:05
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JucatoPhilippines ehehe!11:05
fyyrest0rmany idea why its not remembering my file associations? ie: i right-click an mp3, open with, choose a program, check "always use this" and the next time its back to using amarok again lol11:06
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: try changing the File Association from Konqueror > Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > File Associations options11:06
fyyrest0rmone of these days i'll get this all right and stop being a pest hehe11:08
Jucatoyou're not a pest :-D11:08
fyyrest0rmnow i gotta try to get world of warcraft to run..i'm sure THAT'S gonna be fun11:08
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Jucatohehehe! good luck!11:09
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fyyrest0rmhmm...someone in here earlier told me how to fix the hostname resolving thing but i forget what it was now lol11:10
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fyyrest0rmhad something to do with adding "wins" into a file somewhere so it would resolve the hostnames on my network11:10
Jucatofyyrest0rm: what program are you using to chat? Konversation?11:11
fyyrest0rmjucato: yeah11:11
Jucatofyyrest0rm: Try pressing Ctrl+O to open your  log file for this channel (it will open in a new tab)11:12
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Jucatothen you Ctrl+F to search within that log file11:13
fyyrest0rmit won't be there..i re-installed earlier because i completely borked my system lol11:13
Jucatoand completely overwrote your /home directory?11:13
fyyrest0rmtrying to get the nvidia thing working and was pointed to a site that had an automatic script thing that didn't work so well11:13
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fyyrest0rmjucato: yeah..i had to format and reinstall kubuntu completely11:14
jendeHas anyone XAMPP on his machine running?11:14
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: next time, you might want to put your /home directory on a separate partition so that you can install/reinstall without messing up your data/settings...11:15
fyyrest0rmjucato: good idea :)11:15
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jendeHas anyone XAMPP on his machine running?11:17
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kameronin irssi, does anyone know how to switch between two different chanels?11:18
_rince_C-n C-p11:18
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_rince_next and previous11:18
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kameronsweet, thanks _rince_11:19
Jucatokameron: or Alt+<Window Number>11:19
_rince_and Alt-<number> jumps directly to channel in window<number>11:19
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sleeptyperhow about alt-sidearrow ?11:19
_rince_try it ;)11:19
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sleeptyperlike in konversation11:20
_rince_for me it sends a control-character11:20
_rince_what is konversation?11:20
JucatoKonversation: KDE IRC Client11:20
sleeptyperKDE irc proggie11:20
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB11:20
kameronso i guess there's a serious xorg bug with the recent update.11:21
_rince_won't work with scree i guess ... that's not an option :)11:21
kameroni'm not really in the loop of ubuntu lately.. too busy. :P11:21
Jucatokameron: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1011:21
Jucatokameron: you can't get X started because of the update?11:21
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kameronJucato: yeah11:22
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Jucatokameron: do this to downgrade to the previous working version: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"11:22
_rince_o_O so i better not shutdown X atm?11:24
Jucato_rince_: did you perform today's upgrade?11:24
kameronJucato: yeah, i figured that out.11:24
kameronif only i could copy and paste from the terminal!11:24
_rince_a few minutes ago, yes11:24
Jucatothen just downgrade using that command...11:24
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Jucatokameron: ehehe no shortcuts... type it ^_^11:24
kameronpretty much, grr.11:25
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_rince_kameron: screen can copy/paste :)11:25
Jucatocan screen run without X?11:25
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kameronthanks _rince_ :P11:25
_rince_of course11:25
JucatoI've been hearing this "screen" for quite some time now...11:25
_rince_screen has nothing to do with X at all11:25
_rince_it's a terminal multiplexer ... if you want to put it that way11:26
kameron_rince_: ... wait, how do i use screen? i'm just reading the man on it now.11:26
JucatoLinux.com just so very recently posted this article about screen. I'm still reading it11:27
_rince_kameron: that's good start, and there are many tutorials online11:27
Jucatolooks like "screen" is the rave these days...11:27
_rince_"these days"?11:27
_rince_i think i use it for about 5 years now11:27
_rince_and i'm not the first ;)11:27
Jucatowell, I've only been hearing it a lot recently11:27
Jucatoand I mean, a lot...11:28
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martin____nothing interesting to say just trying konversation11:29
martin____is quite nice , another glad surprise from these guys from kde11:29
gebruiker123My pc won't turn of automaticly why not?11:30
martin____you mean "turn off"11:30
fyyrest0rmfreakin adept manager did an xorg upgrade for me again *sigh*11:31
Jucatofyyrest0rm: err... it won't upgrade unless you click on "Upgrade"....11:31
satemplermy laptops volume keys work in ubuntu what do I need to get them to work in kubuntu11:32
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)11:32
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fyyrest0rmi was trying to install wine through adept..i clicked the "complete upgrade" button..and saw it upgrading xorg11:32
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neuron_hello guys11:34
neuron_i got a problem11:34
neuron_ive just updated the X server trough Adept, and kdm doesnt seem to start now11:34
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fyyrest0rmsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1011:34
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Jucatosudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1011:34
neuron_the old one?11:35
neuron_thanks :P11:35
Jucatothat will downgrade to the older ne11:35
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neuron_im not the only one am i?11:35
Jucatoit's all over the known Ubuntu world11:35
Shan_KUbuntu is behaving weirdly..11:35
fyyrest0rmand a couple others since i've been in here11:35
neuron_no shit :D11:35
Shan_Firefox and some of the applications wont launch11:35
Shan_i tried launching them thru console but it gives me an errror11:35
Jucatojust drop by Ubuntuforums.org and KubuntuForums.Net to see how much :-D11:35
neuron_tried google first but kinda hard with links11:35
neuron_dont have a X server atm, so.. :D11:36
Shan_(firefox-bin:8617): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib11:36
Jucatoneuron_: you're using irssi?11:36
kameronthanks for the help, back to X now hopefully.11:36
Jucatoehehe! write down the command... there's no copy paste.. ^_^11:36
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Jucatothank goodness for virtual consoles/terminals!11:37
neuron_i know jucato :P11:37
neuron_thats what im doing right now :P11:37
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h3sp4wnyou can copy and paste with screen perfectly (I thought that was what you were talking about)11:37
fyyrest0rmis there something i can do to tell it to ignore that update?11:37
Jucatofyyrest0rm: don't install anything? ehehe11:37
neuron_fyyrest0rm: i guess there wil be a update pretty soon11:38
neuron_maybe even today :D11:38
Jucatoit has almost been 12 hours neuron_....11:38
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fyyrest0rmjucato: yeah it did..i just redid the cmd and drivers and restarted x again11:38
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: what are you using? Adept or Add/Remove Programs?11:38
fyyrest0rmjucato: adept11:38
Shan_Firefox is giving me an error.. and Konqueror is giving loads of warnings11:39
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: xserver-xorg-core won't be marked unless you click on Full Upgrade...11:40
h3sp4wnecho xserver-xorg-core hold | dpkg --set-selections (as root - from sudo -i)11:41
fyyrest0rmjucato: there's a warning sitting in the "tray?" and also a "complete upgrade" button in adept..thats what i clicked thinking i was telling it to do winex11:41
JoeboyIs there a known problem with kubuntu and the latest x update?11:41
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JoeboyCos I just updated and everything broke11:41
fyyrest0rmjoeboy: yeah11:41
Jucatofyyrest0rm: anyway, before you click on Apply Changes, click on Preview Changes first, the right-click on xserver-xorg-core if it's there, then choose Cancel Changes11:41
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fyyrest0rmahhh cool11:42
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JucatoJoeboy: yeah.. very well known...11:42
Jucatofyyrest0rm: just ignore that icon in system tray11:42
JoeboyCan someone summarise what I need to know / do?11:42
JucatoJoeboy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1011:42
Jucatoto downgrade...11:42
debShan_: rename the .mozilla or .mozilla-firefox folder under ur home directory and retart firefox.11:43
JoeboyJucato: doing that now, thanks11:43
h3sp4wnWhat version is the update trying to install ?11:43
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Shan_deb, rename to anything?11:44
D4rklywhich packages do i need to build wine ??11:44
debShan_: yes .11:44
Jucatoh3sp4wn: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 I think11:44
Shan_deb, (firefox-bin:9245): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib11:45
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D4rklyE: Build-dependencies for wine could not be satisfied.11:45
JoeboyX is working again \o/ thanks guys11:45
Jucatohm... let me test this...11:45
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1011:45
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JoeboyJucato: that too11:46
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debShan_: install libgtk and libgtk-common11:46
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h3sp4wnJucato: When was that ? - I want verticle splits then I think irssi would be perfect11:47
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Jucatowhen was what? the #ubuntu-classroom class about irssi? Aug. 5 ang 711:48
Jucatobut it was very very basic11:48
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D4rklyhow can i get wine working with -opengl ??11:49
h3sp4wnD4rkly: use the packages from budgetdedicated.com - install the nvidia drivers under wine (no chance without nvidia binary drivers)11:50
Shan_deb, thanx11:51
debShan_: working ?11:52
Shan_deb, just starting synaptic lol11:52
Shan_deb, they are installed but i'm marking them for reinstallation11:53
Shan_deb, nope still wont work11:56
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fyyrest0rmlol ok now...i put my wow cd in, pops up a box, i tell it to open in new window, I get an error saying "malformed url" and then nothing?11:57
Jucatofyyrest0rm: blank CD?11:58
fyyrest0rmjucato: no..world of warcraft cd11:58
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Jucatooh, but you can still see the contents of the CD? (media:/)11:58
fyyrest0rmshowing blank11:59
Shan_what does this mean? --> kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.11:59
Shan_ <---11:59
Shan_i am getting this for a lot of applications12:00
fyyrest0rmjucato: created a new dvdrom device link on desktop and pointed it to /media/cdrom0 and that way work.. but i go straight to /media/cdrom0 it's blank *shrug*12:02
fyyrest0rmyeah..funs just beginning to..apparently i have to copy all 5 discs to a directory on the HDD in order to get wine to install it lol12:03
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arepiei never realized lin city is in adept manager reps.. :D12:09
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Jucatoyou'd be surprised at what can and cannot be found in Ubuntu's repositories...12:10
arepiewhy i can't compiler c++ with gcc ?12:10
abattoirarepie: because gcc is packaged as a c compiler :)12:10
arepiewhy must use g++ ?12:10
JucatoGCC = GNU C Compiler12:10
arepiei see..12:11
abattoirJucato: GCC=GNU compiler collection ;)12:11
arepieit's been a week i'm searching for a conclusion on how to compile c++ code.. at last, someone teach me use g++12:11
Jucatosorry, my bad12:11
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)12:13
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jujimufuI need help re-enabling 3d acceleration on my i91512:23
jujimufuwe will12:23
jujimufuyesterday, 3d acceleration was just fine, glxinfo gave "direct acceleration: Yes", but not it gives "No" again.12:23
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ketsugiHi, after I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4 via the Kubuntu repos, I get the KDE Configuration Wizard every time I login. How do I stop it from showing up any more?12:26
stoicdelete it12:27
stoicyes thats right delete KDE12:27
Jucatosudo apt-get remove kpersonalizer12:27
jujimufuketsugi: open kcontrol (Alt+F2, and write kcontrol), and go to KDE Components -> Session Manager -> Start with an Empty Session12:27
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stoicand i promise it wont show up again12:27
Jucatojujimufu: I think it still shows up even if you start with an empty session. It's a bug...12:28
ketsugijujimufu: I already have that12:28
JucatoI don't even know why kpersonalizer was installed anyway...12:28
Jucatoketsugi: try "sudo apt-get remove kpersonalizer"12:28
ketsugiYup, I'm doing that now12:28
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ketsugiNext: is there any way to control what programs/documents get recognised by Katapult?12:29
ketsugiFor some reason it doesn't know Konsole12:29
ketsugior some other programs that I have installed12:29
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Jucatoketsugi: for programs, it will scan what is only found in K Menu.12:30
ketsugiBut Konsole is definitely in the K Menu, as is Azureus12:30
ketsugibut Katapult doesn't recognise either of those12:30
redbladesHi, I just installed Audacity, but I can't work out how to open it.12:30
redbladesIt's not in any of the menus and I get errors when I try to open it through konsole.12:31
Jucatoyou can add/remove "catalogs" for Katapult by pressing Ctrl+C and selecting "Configure Katapult" once Katapult is launched/visible...12:31
stankscan i safely remove *-dev packages after i compile from source app?12:31
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redbladesAnyone? I can't seem to work out how to run Audacity...12:36
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redbladesNever mind...12:39
debredblades: try killing esd if it's running and start audacity12:40
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redbladesdeb, it's okay, I got it, with gksudo12:42
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redbladesdeb, I found another issue... I can't recorrd.12:44
jujimufuso, I still can't enable direct rendering12:44
jujimufudrivers i915 and intel_agp are loading normally12:44
jujimufuand it still doesn'twork12:44
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TheGateKeeperis xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 the one that is breaking everyone's system???12:47
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JucatoTheGateKeeper: yep12:47
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TheGateKeeperJucato: ok thanx, just come through on the updates, don't think I will bother with that one. are they working on a fix do you know?12:49
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Jucatoyep. they're updating the mirrors as we speak to make the fix available12:50
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ketsugiHow do I configure the default handler application for a file type?12:51
TheGateKeeperhave a different version number?12:51
jujimufuketsugi: right click, "Open With" and then choose the application, and check the box "always open this kind of files with the selected program"12:51
Jucatoketsugi: in Konqueror, go to Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > File Associations options, if jujimufu's tip doesn't work...12:52
JucatoTheGateKeeper: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.412:52
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ketsugiJucato: thanks12:53
TheGateKeeperthanx Jucato :-) I will wait till 10.4 appears in the updates12:53
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darkwizzardhello all12:55
darkwizzardplease help12:55
psb154did an xorg update now my X is broke :-(12:55
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"12:55
darkwizzardI just updated12:55
darkwizzardand xorg broke12:55
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ketsugiDoes Kubuntu have a graphical deb installer like gdebi for Gnome?12:55
Jucatoketsugi: yep12:55
Jucatoketsugi: just right-click on the .deb package12:55
fyyrest0rmhow can i make my open windows only appear on the desktop i open them on, not all on the taskbar?12:56
ketsugiWhat's it called? I just want to associate with .deb in Konqueror12:56
psb154Jucato, thanks.12:56
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darkwizzardthanks guys12:56
darkwizzardit should work no12:56
ketsugiOh hm, it's built into Konqueror?12:56
jujimufuanyone can help me reenable direct rendering?12:57
Jucatoketsugi: it's a Konqueror service menu (context menu, right-click menu...)12:57
Jucatofyyrest0rm: right-click on the panel and select Configure Panel, go the Taskbar options12:57
ketsugiYeah, I'm trying to find out how to do it so that Konqueror opens that if I download a deb from a website12:57
ketsugiInstead of automatically opening gdebi instead12:57
Jucatofyyrest0rm: then uncheck "show windows from all destkops"12:57
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fyyrest0rmjucato: thanks :)12:58
TheGateKeeperanyone using 3.5.4?12:58
Jucatoketsugi: I'm not sure. Have you tried right-clicking on the .deb link in the website?12:58
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jujimufuTheGateKeeper: me12:59
jujimufuTheGateKeeper: oops, mistake. I am using 3.5.212:59
stoicmwahahaha i just turned my desktop celtic01:00
Jucatoketsugi: AFAIK, there is no gdebi counterpart installed by default in Kubuntu. But KPackage, the original KDE Package Manager, comes close...01:00
TheGateKeeperdoes 3.5.4 open applications quicker than say 3.5.2?01:00
JucatoTheGateKeeper: I haven't noticed. The bugs distract me from noticing...01:01
JucatoKDE 3.5.3 is a bit faster, though01:01
jujimufuSo, 3.5.4 is unstable, 3.5.3 is stable?01:03
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octananyone know xbindkey ?01:03
TheGateKeeperI have just put Arch linux on my test box, I don't know if it's my imagination or what, but KDE on Arch seems to open windows noticable quicker than I remember either dapper or breezy doing so01:03
octani need some help with setting up a config file01:03
JucatoKDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu (only on Kubuntu) is a bit buggy. KDE 3.5.3 is more stable...01:03
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JucatoI could live with most of the bugs in KDE 3.5.4 though01:03
octan"xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[Alt_L] \[Left] ""01:04
octan  m:0x10 + b:901:04
JucatoTheGateKeeper: heh, Arch will always be faster...01:04
octanwhat does that do?01:04
TheGateKeeperJucato: how so? I have heard people also comment that PCLinuxOS is quicker than kubuntu too01:05
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octanarchlinux is a pize of crap hobby distro.. i have used it... and its only 1/2 as good ans ubuntu. :)01:05
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fyyrest0rmanyone know where wine installs?01:05
jujimufuTheGateKeeper: archlinux is indeed very quick. And the package management system is also pretty nice.01:05
JucatoArch is basically Gentoo made easy, so it's very much optimized for a specific system01:05
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: what do you mean?01:06
JucatoTheGateKeeper: I still have to see for myself about PCLinuxOS, though01:06
fyyrest0rmjucato: i did an apt-get of wine from winehq..trying to find where it installed to..need to edit a file01:06
TheGateKeeperjujimufu: Jucato thanx guys that explains it01:06
grotheskWhen trying to build dazuko-module I get this error from moduleassisstant: /usr/share/modass/packages/generic.sh: line 70: debian/rules: No such file or directory01:07
grotheskAnyone knows what I'm missing?01:07
Jucatofyyrest0rm: err.. what file to be exact?01:07
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TheGateKeeperoctan: I am just having a play with it, see where it goes :-)01:07
stoicI think it intsalls in your home folder, (i think it does dont quote me on that)01:07
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.01:07
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jujimufuthanks a lot ubotu01:07
fyyrest0rmjucato: i just installed world of warcraft..need to edit a file it installed (Config.wtf)01:07
Jucatofyyrest0rm: while the executable file of wine will be in /usr/bin/, other parts will be found else where.01:07
stoicshould be a hidden folder01:07
Jucatofyyrest0rm: aaaah. you meant "where does wine install things"?01:08
fyyrest0rmjucato: its the "other parts" i'm looking for i guess..wherever it puts the C:/ etc01:08
fyyrest0rmjucato: lol yes01:08
octanTheGateKeeper, i need to set button 9 on mouse to Ctrl Alt left01:08
grotheskfyyrest0rm: in .wine in your home.01:08
Jucatofyyrest0rm: I misinterpreted it to "where is wine installed"01:08
fyyrest0rmthank you01:08
Jucatofyyrest0rm: in a hidden directory in home01:08
Jucato~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files I guess01:08
octanTheGateKeeper, i guess m; means mouse but what is that 0x10 stuff?01:09
grotheskThat is what line 70 actually says:      "$@"01:09
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stoicthats where it installed mine, though it got pissed off while i was trying to install c&c generals, so i deleted it01:09
TheGateKeeper0x10 is hexadecimal, we count in base 10, computers count in base 2, and can also be expressed in base 16 hexadecimal01:11
octanyea, and octal 8 :)01:11
Jucato @_@01:11
Jucatooctan 8....01:11
octanwhatever :P01:11
octanTheGateKeeper, do you know this xbindkeys stuff?01:12
TheGateKeepernot really but I can take a quick look01:12
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octan0x10 = 17 des?01:13
stoicwould anyone know of a place online where i can order an AGP slot to sotter onto my mother board, dell was so kind as to rip it out01:13
TheGateKeeperoctan: 0x10 = 1601:15
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octanso =0F = 1501:15
TheGateKeeperoctan: 0x11 = 1701:15
TheGateKeeperoctan: correct :-)01:15
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octanhowever,, why is it m:0x10 in that xbindkey stuff i pasted earlyer?01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finnish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
octanand what does it do?01:16
TheGateKeeperoctan: they just look like keycodes to me, every key on you keyboard has a keycode01:16
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octanok what is this then=?  -xsendevent -text "\[Alt_L] \[Left] ""01:17
jujimufuso, in glxinfo, with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose and MESA_DEBUG=verbose, I get the following error: libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false . Any ideas?01:18
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anaskius!finnish support01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finnish support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
TheGateKeeperoctan: that looks like a macro of some sort01:19
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ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi01:19
Jucatoanaskius: was that what you were looking for?01:20
pipe_que tal?01:20
jujimufupipe_: hola!01:20
jujimufupipe_: como estas?01:20
pipe_muy bien y tu01:20
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jujimufupipe_: bien, gracias :)01:21
anaskiusfound it allready...thanks01:21
TheGateKeeperoctan: The format of a command line is: "command to start" associated key so "xbindkeys_show" control+shift + q would bring up xbindkeys_show01:21
jujimufupipe_: soy espanol?01:21
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"01:21
pipe_me lo preguntas o me lo dices?01:21
Jucatoi mean, away...01:21
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octanTheGateKeeper, so do you know how i might do it when i want button 9 to do ctrl alt left01:22
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octanbutton 9 on my mouse01:22
jujimufudisculpe :) usted espanol?01:22
jujimufupipe_: ^01:22
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TheGateKeeperoctan: you have a mouse with 9 buttons??01:24
octan15 :)01:24
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pipe_jujimufu soy espaol si01:24
jujimufupipe_: apesadumbrado para mi espanol, pero no hablo espanol realmente :D01:24
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pipe_do you speak english?01:25
jujimufupipe_: yeah :)01:25
vursitiso, for a second there i thought i was in the spanish channel01:25
jujimufuvursitis: lol :D :D01:25
jujimufupipe_: soy griego :)01:25
pipe_where are you from?01:25
jujimufuah :D01:25
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VursitisPhoenix, and you two?01:26
jujimufuomg he is capitalised!01:26
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pipe_im in logroo, spain01:26
pipe_i dont speak english very well01:27
VursitisThats cool, always wanted to go there01:27
TheGateKeeperoctan: not sure how you would do that, I could see ----> myFunction b:9 where my function is something xterm or an executable bash file that you made01:27
Vursitiswell actualy... I have kinda wanted to travel all over europe01:27
jujimufupipe_: it's ok :) I don't speak spanish very well :) No hablo espanol bien :)01:28
pipe_yo tampoco01:28
jujimufuVursitis: interrail, ever heard of it?01:28
pipe_y de que hablais?01:28
pipe_si se puede saber...01:28
VursitisNo I have not, where is it located?01:29
octanTheGateKeeper i thought b:9 meant button 901:29
TheGateKeeperoctan: it does I think looking at this: http://hocwp.free.fr/xbindkeys/xbindkeysrc_d01:29
pipe_do you understand me?01:30
jujimufupipe_: not very well, sorry :P01:30
jujimufupipe_: you asked me what languages I speak?01:30
pipe_actually im study english and french01:31
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TheGateKeeperpipe_: do you need the spanish channel?01:31
TheGateKeeperpipe_: just checking :-)01:31
pipe_english is the best language01:31
pipe_im spanish but the enlish have more words, technicals words...01:32
TheGateKeeperI need to start learning spanish, but haven't motivated myself enough yet lol01:32
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VursitisAlgn otro motivo?01:33
pipe_algun otro motivo por el que piense que el ingles es mejor?01:33
pipe_no se tio, en la comunidad hacker hablais mas en ingles01:33
pipe_y yo la verdad no estudio nada pero gracias a internet aprobe ingles01:34
gnomefreakpipe_: join #ubuntu-es for spanish01:34
pipe_(thanks internet i passed english xD)01:34
jujimufugnomefreak: he just stated above that he doesn't wnat to :)01:34
pipe_i prefer this channel thanks01:35
gnomefreak#lubuntu-es even01:35
gnomefreakpipe_: than stick with english in here01:35
pipe_repeat please01:35
jujimufugnomefreak: let the guy alone :)01:35
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Vursitisesto es bastante chulo, y actualy engao y uso a uno de aquellos traductores en lnea libres01:36
jujimufupipe_: gnomefreak dice si usted permanece aqu, hable ingls, o bien vaya al #lubuntu-es01:36
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jujimufuVursitis: oh, come on :) I speak a few spanish, but need the translator to understand more complicated phrases :\01:37
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pipe_but i tell you that i dont speak english very well01:37
Vursitislol i dont understand any spanish i am cheating 100% here01:37
catarrohow can i know the version of kde i installed ?01:38
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catarroi use kubuntu01:38
trpr_ah. thats why it reads so mechanically01:38
gnomefreakcatarro: apt-cache policy kdebase01:38
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jujimufucatarro: press Alt+F2 -> write kcontrol and see what it says. It most probably will be 3.5.2, if it's kubuntu dapper01:38
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pipe_only you speak english?01:38
catarrothank you so much both01:39
jujimufucatarro: no prob :)01:39
pipe_because in europe we study three languages in the scholl01:39
Vursitisno, i speak german, writing and spelling on the other hand is a diffrent story01:39
eldenhiya guys01:39
pipe_what is hiya?01:39
pipe_in spanish01:40
jujimufupipe_: like, hola :)01:40
pipe_hazme un favor01:40
jujimufupipe_: que favor?01:40
pipe_ahora os paso una URL01:41
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pipe_para que veais a unos amigos de espaa01:41
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jujimufupipe_: que amigo?01:41
jaffa_pipe ek verstaan jou nie01:41
jaffa_jammer my brew01:41
pipe_amigos mios01:42
alf___did anyone have a problem with xorg since the last update ?01:42
pipe_my friends01:42
pipe_in logroo01:42
alf___I have no X anymore01:42
eldenwhat xorg?01:42
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eldenthe latest?01:42
jujimufupipe_: ok, que url?01:42
jaffa_no i didnt why did you?01:42
alf___elden: I don't know, I've made an update yesterday01:42
pipe_one moment01:42
eldeni see01:43
alf___and I can't run X anymore01:43
Hobbseealf___: yes, it's broken01:43
eldengood thing i didn't updated it yet :p01:43
Hobbsee<Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"01:43
Hobbseethere's a fix being sent to the archives now01:43
jaffa_juz replace it with the back up01:43
gnomefreaki just got like 22 emails about that X bug :(01:44
thykois there an IRC chanel for DJs?01:44
gnomefreakonly 2 from Hobbsee :)01:44
jujimufuthyko: yeah, but most probably in anoher serv er :)01:45
Vursitisgnite everyone, im leavin01:45
alf___and it's really hard to find and answer with lynx +01:45
Vursitisor good bye to those of you located where its day01:45
Hobbseegnomefreak: i didnt fix it :P01:45
gnomefreaki know01:46
gnomefreaki just got 2 more emails about it01:46
gnomefreakwhat did people use before GUI came out :(01:46
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alf___I wasn't born ;-)01:47
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umilo all01:48
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pipe_see this video please01:49
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sc0tchHi, I had a quick install question, I have the Kismet Package from the repo installed, and I just downloaed the latest srouce tarball and compiled it, should I uninstall the original package before doing a make install from source?01:50
Tm_Tpipe_: does it have anything to do with kubuntu?01:50
umii have a new problem, apprently my NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0-7174 but my X module has version 1.0-8762? how do i resolve this?01:50
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pipe_Tm_T sorry01:51
Kabalstupid video and OT01:51
Tm_Tsc0tch: that's safe way to do, then you close out are cross installations ;)01:51
Tm_TI see01:51
Tm_Tpipe_: heh, then you need to tell that to me in another channel ;)01:51
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sc0tchok, thanks Tm_T01:52
umii tried downloading the nvidia driver straight from the site but it wont install cause it cant find nvidia.ko :S01:52
KabalWhen I set Konqueror to view->viewmode->text mode some files are green in font.. ?01:52
Tm_Tsc0tch: I just override install most of the time, but I also clean my mess ;)01:53
Tm_Tumi: well, dapper?01:53
Kabalwhat does green files mean?01:53
umiyes i am on dapper if thats what you mean01:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:54
umithey were installed before01:54
Tm_Tumi: have you seen that?01:54
umii dont get why now there is a version mismatch01:54
umii will check it now01:54
Tm_Tme neither, simplest way is to install again I think01:54
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thykono dj channels out there01:55
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thykowith more than two people01:56
thykoanyone know of any?01:57
thykoi need to find out about a certain mixer01:57
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jujimufupipe_: nice :D01:57
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octanarr, help me pls.. i just upgraded xorg core something,, with adeptm,, however my X doesnt start up again,,01:58
octanwhat shall i do?01:58
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umianyone got the command handy for him?01:58
umii am in CLI and got no copy/paste01:59
Tm_Toctan: I see...01:59
octanon in irssi ;(01:59
Tm_Toctan: are you registered freenode user?01:59
Hobbsee<Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"02:00
Tm_TI was ready to see xorg log errors02:00
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octanstop typing ts ou can read that02:00
Tm_Tbut nah ;(02:00
Hobbseethat one?02:00
Tm_Toctan: scroll with pageup(pagedown02:01
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bnilsenClueless here.  Using either Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Xubuntu. (don't know which and even less about IRC)02:01
umity Tm_T, just needed re-install my restricted modules02:02
Tm_Tumi: :)02:02
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octanhey.. thxz guys'02:03
vursitisi just pissed off the entire windows chatroom...02:03
Tm_Tvursitis: shame on you02:03
vursitisim back02:03
jujimufuguys, has anyone tried diet-coke and mentos?02:04
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bnilsenNot possible octan.  Windows is the perfect potty.02:04
vursitisi just basicaly logged in and quencidentaly they said and i lost all of my info as soon as i logged in, said somthing along the lines of you should back up your information with an OS as unstable as that... and things just went downhill from there02:04
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jujimufucan anyone help me re-enable direct rendering on intel i915?02:05
vursitishmmm, i wonder if there is a mac channel02:06
vursitishm... there's a suprise... there talking about drinking coffee02:08
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Ash-FoxI should never of updated xserver, X just refuses to start a (EE) No devices detected. message :/02:12
Tm_T15:00 < Hobbsee> <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"02:12
abattoirAsh-Fox: yes, its a known issue... see the title02:12
abattoirAsh-Fox: topic, sorry02:12
Ash-FoxHow do you view te topic in irssi again?02:13
Hobbseeand now we see how many people dont read the topic02:13
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Tm_TAsh-Fox: /topic02:13
Tm_THobbsee: hehe, yes, so true02:13
Tm_THobbsee: I read when I join in02:13
Tm_Tbut that happens couple times a year mostly so ...02:13
Vliegendehuiskathehehehe joining alone solves the problem :D02:13
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h3sp4wnMost of the topic is not visible in konversation or irssi (without trying specifically to see it) maybe anything important would be best in the first part of the topic02:14
Tm_Th3sp4wn: agreed02:14
jujimufuh3sp4wn: indeed :)02:14
Ash-FoxIsn't that just installing a old version of the xserver?02:14
Vliegendehuiskatit is02:14
Tm_TAsh-Fox: yes02:14
Vliegendehuiskatso why do we have an unstable update in a stable version?02:15
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Ash-FoxBad security update?02:16
Vliegendehuiskatbut why?02:16
Ash-FoxI can't tell you until I get xorg working02:17
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Vliegendehuiskatbut it has to be working on some machines?02:17
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h3sp4wnAny enterprise customer who was paying for support of dapper would probably not be happy with that update02:17
Vliegendehuiskatindeed :P02:18
Vliegendehuiskatso how did it slip through?02:18
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Ash-FoxWell, if the update works on some hardware, I can understand it getting passed. But if it doesn't work on any hardware.. Well, that's a different story :P02:18
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Ash-FoxHeh, irssi is pretty neat actually02:19
Vliegendehuiskatfixing it now on my flaptop02:19
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_eckobar_hi everybody02:20
_eckobar_does anybody know why the current-version of kde & amarok are in inofficial repositories?? why the are not in the main / normal repositories?02:21
Ash-FoxBy the way, is there a way I can set the default kernel parameters for grub? Whenever I install a new kernel, it's always regenerating the menu.lst file, removing my customisations.02:22
h3sp4wn_eckobar_: because dapper-backports is not enabled02:22
Vliegendehuiskat_eckobar_: because they hav'nt made ti through testing yet?02:22
Ash-Foxeckobar, well, for one, the latest version of KDE doesn't have bluetooth kio_slave isn't working in the latest 'stable' of KDE.02:22
h3sp4wnAsh-Fox: set what you want in kopts (then when you run update-grub it will use those)02:22
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_eckobar_h3sp4wn: what is dapper-backports?? didn't hear before02:23
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Vliegendehuiskateckobar: google on source-o-matic02:23
h3sp4wn_eckobar_: backports - but there is some reason it is not working (there are some regressions hence it cannot go into dapper-updates)02:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:24
h3sp4wn_eckobar_: kubuntu.org packages are official enough for most people02:24
Vliegendehuiskatanyway lets see if X is fixed over here now02:25
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_eckobar_Vliegendehuiskat: so will the version 3.5.4 every be available from the official repository??02:26
h3sp4wn_eckobar_: when edgy is released02:26
Vliegendehuiskatprobebly with edgy indeed02:27
VliegendehuiskatI don't think they are gonna release 3.5.4 along with the current stable version (dapper)02:27
Vliegendehuiskatin the past even updates of firefox came after months02:28
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Vliegendehuiskatbut wouldn't the first step be to get that broken update out of the repo's?02:29
Vliegendehuiskatso why on earth is it still there?02:29
_eckobar_Vliegendehuiskat & h3sp4wn: have some problem with update to 3.5.4: update process is finished ok with the inofficial repository, but the fonts in GTK apps and some KDE apps are very fringy...... heard about some future problems with upgrade to 3.5.4. is it safe to use current version? and what can i do against fringy fonts??02:29
h3sp4wndoes it break gnome or only kde02:29
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Vliegendehuiskatthe X update breaks both02:30
Vliegendehuiskator at least i had both on my system!02:30
VliegendehuiskatI was unable to reach em both02:31
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Tm_Twell, if X doesn't start, desktop doesn't matter02:31
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jott_i can confirm this broken xorg-core package too... fun fun fun!02:31
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VliegendehuiskatEckobar you can try to configure the fonts in KDE02:33
Vliegendehuiskatthrough Kontrol or something02:33
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Vliegendehuiskatbut that fringy font problem is something i never worked out when i came accross it02:33
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_eckobar_Vliegendehuiskat: yeah, i did, but the still apear awful02:33
jott__eckobar_: enable and disable the anti aliasing this should fix the gtk font issue..02:33
jorikjott_: i just upgraded xorg-core but didnt reboot since ... is it gonna be broken i have 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 now02:33
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jott_jorik: so downgrade or don't reboot ;) .. or reboot to increase the body count ;p02:34
_eckobar_jott_: i tried also, but with no effect02:34
Vliegendehuiskatjorik please read the fucking topic02:34
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:35
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')02:36
jorikhey ff vriendelijk blijven he, ik zit al uren in dit kanaal ik ga het topic niet iedere keer lezen as ik een vraag stel (en konversation laat enkel de eerste regel zien). maar toch bedankt want mn volgende vraag ging zijn; hoe downgrade ik xorg-core02:36
Vliegendehuiskatdat staat int topic :P02:36
Vliegendehuiskatsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:36
jorikidd, lol :p thx02:37
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stoicdoes anyone in here know of a decent remote monitoring program?02:38
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Vliegendehuiskatanyway i'm off again to my own laptop02:38
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lou80stoic what for?02:38
stoicbesides ssh02:38
exotichey all, need some plz, how to enable automatic login at startup?02:38
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stoici have a few roomates that are downloading things they shouldn't be and the connection is in my name...02:39
lou80:-0 that's what I was thing of...02:39
stoici need controll of their computers while i am out of town02:39
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stoicor at least i need the ability to be big brother for the weekend02:40
stoicand ssh only works in your local network02:40
exotichey all, need some plz, how to enable automatic login at startup? any idea plz?02:40
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lou80why not ssh server controlled over the internet?02:41
stoicagain ssh server only works in your local network02:41
stoicive tried02:41
lou80no it doesn't02:41
stoictell me more...02:41
jorikexotic: goto configuration screen and look into the "login screen" (i dunno how it is in english i have it in dutch), there's an option there too auto-login a user02:41
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stoicwell actualy another important feature it needs is cross platform capability, one is using windows02:42
exoticjorik:thanx, i'll check this02:42
bimberiexotic: system -> admin -> login window, Security tab02:42
lou80well all you need to know is the ip address of your box, is it dynamic though?02:42
goruscould anybody point me to a good nvidia installation wiki or something02:42
debexotic: try configuring KDM to automatically log in a perticular user .02:42
bimberiexotic: ignore me, that's for gnome sorry02:43
gorusjust installed kubuntu .. everything was fine until i installed nvidia driver and changed xorg.conf to use "nvidia" instead of "nv"02:43
lou80stoic which machine do u want to monitor ? linux?02:43
stoicboth linux and windows02:43
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h3sp4wnstoic: Just setup an ipsec vpn02:43
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gorusnow even if i change it back to "nv" it wont startx02:43
goruscomplaining about device presence02:43
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stoich3sp4wn, that sounds like a great idea, explain... im kinda new to linux02:44
lou80yeah vpn would work nicely might be over kill though02:44
exoticbimberi:just was about to tell u am a kubuntu user! it's ok02:44
stoicwell... actualy networking in general02:44
exoticdeb:i can't find this option02:44
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debexotic: kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager ->?convenience tab .02:45
bimberiexotic: i help a bit in a few channels, just forgot which one i was in ;)02:46
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exoticbimberi: no worries02:47
lou80stioc, before you play about with vpn make sure you can ssh in remotely (i promise it can be done of ip)02:47
exoticdeb:i'll check this02:47
stoicyeah i have done it on our local network just not remotly02:48
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stoicssh -X usrname@IP02:48
stoicpretty easy command02:48
lou80if is it a dynamic setup no-ip.com daemon02:48
lou80dynamically assighned ip that is02:49
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Shan_i have a raw unpartitioned 160 gb hdd .. and i have booted from the Ubuntu Live cd.. i'm trying to use the cfdisk util, to create 4 partitions on my hdd. However, cfdisk wont let me create more thn 1 partition.. any help?02:49
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jaffa_Qtparted use that02:50
Shan_oh ok02:50
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stoicactualy, gnome parted is a little bit more mature than QT02:50
debShan_: use gparted in case u want reiser fs support02:50
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Shan_deb, reiser fs? :S02:51
lou80Shan_ use fdisk is it's on the livecd, lots of options :-)02:51
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exoticdeb:i got it, thanx, it works now02:51
jorikyeah just use fdisk02:51
debexotic: u r w :)02:51
pascalhello la room02:51
pascalya personne lol02:52
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gorussould i be using nvidia-legacy driver with geforce 3 Ti 200 ??02:53
rambo3did anyone test kubuntu edgy02:53
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debShan_: I like to use reiser fs as my linux partition. But QTpart doesn't support it. So, I use gparted .02:53
debrambo3: I am using kubuntu edgy02:53
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morgeti got a problem with the desktop-cd, if i try to start it, it staks at the screen where all the drivers startet (i think) it says "mounting root file system" and stands there around 10 min and do nothing, then i restart the pc.02:54
eeostoday I updated xorg-core02:54
eeosdid they updated it twice in a day?02:55
rambo3deb ok thats good i ll start upgrading as soon as i edit sources is it just edgy instead of dapper ?02:55
debrambo3: correct. I will advice you not to do a dist upgrade .02:55
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Shan_deb, I have two 160 gb hdd's .. is it better to have a dual boot system, with Windows and Liux on the same drive or on diff drives?02:57
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Shan_what say peeps02:58
debShan_: same drive different partiton .02:58
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rambo3and dist-upgradeing now02:59
lou80Hi folks, i've just used debootstrap to install a base system onto a spare partition and have it booting up nicely with a kernel.  Are there any packages i could use to install the bulk of things i need (networking etc) to eventually get to the stage where I can install X? i've never done this before and )03:00
rambo3Shan on the same drive03:00
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Shan_thank you ppl03:00
rambo3debootstrap is that like bisybox03:00
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lou80not sure let me check03:01
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rambo3busybox that is03:01
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exoticdeb:another help please,.. in Kopete, there is two diffrent accounts for two persons,.. but when i try to log in with any, there does exit ( both ) contacts,03:03
xwolf-can anyone help me? i can't get X to run, probably can't find the screen or some sort, now i am on telnet03:03
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Jucatokool! the new, and hopefully fixed, version of xserver-xorg-core is now available! (1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4).03:03
lou80rambo, i'm putting busybot on it now thanks!!03:04
clark_Hello everyone!!!!03:04
rambo3lou80: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html03:04
Jucatoxwolf-: did you update and when?03:04
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clark_guys I need some help03:04
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xwolf-jucato, just now03:05
clark_I need to install Gnome... how can I do it? I have no idea...03:05
Jucatohmm... xwolf- hold on a sec, I'll try if the newer update isn't broken03:05
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debexotic: i think there is a option to hide offline buddies03:05
xwolf-and then dpkg-reconfigure since i saw it didnt work03:05
Jucatoclark_: "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" that will install Ubuntu03:06
rambo3clark: easy or the hard way ?03:06
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xwolf-damn, telnet is horrible to irc conversations03:06
Jucatoxwolf-: do you have access now to your Kubuntu system?03:06
xwolf-yes, i am in tty103:06
debexotic: or u can check for some similar options under settings -> configure -> appreance ->Contact list03:07
v3ctorwhy would you use telnet for irc?03:07
Jucatoxwolf-: why use telnet then? you could use irssi03:07
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Jucatocome on and join the command line fun! hehehe anyway...03:07
Jucatoxwolf-: try to do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" again03:07
exoticdeb:yeah, i dun want my conatcs to be shown for the other users,.. it's just coz i have a problem with Gaim, it always crashes whenever i try to login with hotmail accounts03:07
xwolf-we havenprivmsg03:07
xwolf-hang on03:08
Jucatoxwolf-: the newer update might be available now03:08
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exoticdeb:could this problem with Gaim be fixed?03:08
Jucatohold on... I just did the upgrade... restarting X. here goes nothing!!03:08
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debexotic: which version of gaim do u use ?03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu.fi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
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ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:09
Jucatook the new update works perfectly03:09
Vliegendehuiskatthat means i'm going after Jucato03:09
JucatoVliegendehuiskat: wait03:09
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JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number)03:10
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pielgrzymhi everybody :)03:10
CVirusJucato: how can I see the version no. ?03:11
Vliegendehuiskatallright Jucato03:11
Chris7masi upgraded today from the official repos and only have available ubuntu10 and ubuntu10.3 is that a problem?03:11
gnomefreakJucato: its hit the servers already?03:11
CVirusJucato: and why there is a second update for the same package ? I mean there was an update already before hours03:11
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pielgrzymcould someone tell me where does kde locate the 99kde-env file in kubuntu? I need to enable option "KDE_IS_PRELINKED" but dunno where the file is ;)03:11
Jucatognomefreak: it was released a few hours ago, but only hit our servers recently03:11
JucatoCVirus: the previous update was broken03:12
stoiccommand for shutting shutting KDE down? anyone?03:12
CVirusJucato: worked for me !03:12
fyyrest0rmanyone have any experience with world of warcraft and wine? lol03:12
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pielgrzymstoic: ctrl+alt+backspace03:12
JucatoCVirus: did you restart X after updating?03:12
CVirusfyyrest0rm: sure03:12
igor_damn, now irssi is much better03:12
CVirusJucato: sire I did03:12
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debexotic: Well I guess it a problem with gaim . try upgrading Gaim to 2.0 beta 3 ,03:13
fyyrest0rmCVirus: yeah? I'm having a problem heh03:13
Vliegendehuiskatnot yet in my repo's03:13
JucatoCVirus: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-core03:13
CVirusfyyrest0rm: what is it ?03:13
JucatoCVirus: what version is it showing?03:13
JucatoVliegendehuiskat: still showing the 10.3 version?03:13
xwolf-jucato what did i have to type anyway?03:13
CVirusJucato: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.303:13
Vliegendehuiskatjup Jucato03:13
CVirusJucato: its upgrading to .403:13
JucatoCVirus: hmm.... you're probably one of the very very few lucky ones then03:14
debexotic: u need to add the following line in the source .list file to get the update deb package : deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse03:14
fyyrest0rmCVirus: Ok..got wine 0.9.19 from winehq installed, got wow installed, it ran fine at first but of course wanted to patch..i grabbed the patch files from another machine and ran those, got it patched..now when i try to run wow it loads the launcher, i click play, after a second it just disappears and never loads.03:14
CVirusJucato: what was wrong ?03:14
JucatoCVirus: the 10.3 version totally hosed X down03:14
CVirusfyyrest0rm: did you patch your wine ?03:14
Jucatoxwolf-: to get your X working again:03:14
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"03:14
fyyrest0rmCVirus: patch wine? it's the newest version03:15
xwolf-jucato ok03:15
CVirusfyyrest0rm: you're using nvidia ?03:15
exoticdeb:thanx i'll check this03:15
fyyrest0rmCVirus: yeah03:15
Vliegendehuiskatwell if i try to alter that command to ubuntu10.4 it doesn't work either03:15
Vliegendehuiskatstill not here yet03:15
CVirusfyyrest0rm: let me give yoi the page u need03:16
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JucatoVliegendehuiskat: you'll just have to wait for it to hit your server I guess.03:16
xwolf-how the heck do i quit emacs? ><03:16
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Vliegendehuiskati think so03:16
korielcan anyone copy paste the url for nvidia drivers to download...I have no x and no lynx..03:16
Vliegendehuiskatthe dutch servers are quite busy usually :P03:16
gnomefreakVliegendehuiskat: give it time. a package doesnt hit every mirror at same time03:16
VliegendehuiskatI know03:16
gnomefreaktry the uk mirrors ;)03:17
Jucatoyeah, our mirrors received the fix I think more than 3 hours after it was initially announced in the bug report03:17
korielcome on someone from www.nvidia.com give me the url for linux x86 drivers...03:18
CVirusfyyrest0rm: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=510903:18
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christianphi all03:19
rambo3koriel why dont you use ubuntu ones03:20
Jucatokoriel: why do you have no X?03:20
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christianpi would like to test virtual pc on my kubuntu laptop: i want to run a virtual machine with windows XP. Does anyone can suggest me what i need? (Xen or vmware or....)03:21
gnomefreakJucato: what mirrors are you running?03:21
Jucatognomefreak: I'm actually confused... hold on a sec...03:21
korielI did an upgrade and I have no x...03:21
christianprambo3: you suggest qemu?03:21
korielI installed my own kernel and the upgrade messed up everything03:21
rambo3yes why not03:21
debchristianp: If u have a win XP image , use vmware player .03:21
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christianpdeb: i have to create a new windows instance (with boot cd)03:22
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rambo3christianp: use google for more infor there are alot of tutorials03:22
christianprambo3: ok, what i want is the name of the program (you suggest qemu), now i try finding tutorials03:23
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debchristianp: check it out ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8427503:24
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xwolf-it's alive!03:25
Jucatognomefreak: my sources.list points to ph.archive.ubuntu.com... but according to someone from the local ubuntu team, that ain't a real mirror/server...03:25
xwolf-thank you all.03:25
gnomefreakJucato: it hit uk mirrors i was informed03:25
fyyrest0rmCVirus: I assume you're talking about the wow-patch-0.9.18.diff ?03:26
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JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.03:27
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CVirusfyyrest0rm: I guess 0.9.19 also needs patching ... I dont know if u'll use the 0.9.18 patch or it has its own separate patch .. check the page plz .. I quit WoW a month ago03:28
Ash-FoxWhen I disable the kernel's boot splash, I noticed there are no colors for [ ok ]  and [failed]  messages. Any way I can enable those?03:29
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fyyrest0rmCVirus: I did check the page, the patch IS 0.9.18 but when I do the command to patch it just gives me an error: "patch: *** strip count l is not a number"03:31
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onTecHnohi all! I have a problem concerning my soundcards: they are both automatically detected, but in the wrong order - how to change it?03:33
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HawkwindJucato: I'm here now03:35
Jucatohehe! hi Hawkwind03:35
Jucatothe fixed xserver-xorg-core package is now available on some mirrors/servers03:35
HawkwindMorning :)03:35
onTecHnoanyone an idea how to change the soundcard order?03:35
HawkwindJucato: That's certainly good to hear :)03:36
Jucatoother servers/mirrors are still updating, though03:36
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.03:36
HawkwindThat last number will make you or break you, literally03:37
HawkwindJucato: Did you get a chance to speak to abattoir_ at all last night ?03:38
Jucatoerr... I knew I forgot something... ^_^03:38
HawkwindHobbsee: Good morning(evening your time) :P03:39
HobbseeJucato: Hawkwind feel free to start a room up about it :P03:39
Hobbseeheya :)03:39
JucatoGood morning, good afternoon, good evening, as the case may be03:39
DannilionIt's available on the British servers, cos I just did an update03:39
HawkwindHobbsee: Did you speak to abattoir_ last night at all by chance ?03:39
HawkwindHmmm, wonder if it's on se.archive.ubuntu.com yet03:40
JucatoDannilion: just make sure that it will upgrade to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.403:40
HobbseeHawkwind: ah.  i spoke to one of you about it while i was at uni.  i think it was abattoir, yes03:40
JucatoHawkwind: you can check with Adept Updater03:40
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HobbseeHawkwind: not much though03:40
JucatoI didn't talk to Hobbsee about it... I was waiting for a referral from Hawkwind. lol03:41
DannilionI checked first03:41
DannilionI downloaded the updates without installing them first :)03:41
HawkwindJucato: apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core  will tell me if it's there yet or not too :P03:41
DannilionHey Hobbsee!03:41
Hobbseehey Dannilion03:41
abattoir_Hawkwind: hi :)03:41
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Hawkwindabattoir_: There you are, good morning03:41
JucatoHawkwind: I wouldn't know. we're using different servers/mirrors...03:42
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gnomefreakHawkwind: apt-get update than apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core should give you the info you are searching for03:44
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yeah seems 10.3 is still on se.archive at the moment :(03:52
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_kmh_i have a question concerning installing ubuntu twice on the same machine (kubuntu and xubuntu on 2 different partitions)03:56
_kmh_and i have a problem with setting the root partition03:56
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_kmh_it seems that the current installation overwrites the former, so the current works fine and / was assigned to its drive, but the other does not boot anymore03:57
gan|y|medi need help writing initng scripts... could anybody have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21392 please03:59
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nkRush_kmh_, that's not the way it's done. install one, boot it and then install the packages for the other desktop environment. you should then be abled to decide at login which one to use04:02
gan|y|med ok, update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2139304:02
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_kmh_nkRush : no i don't want to have different desktops only, i want to have independent installations04:08
xwolf-_kmh_ provided that you don't select the same partition to both installations, it should be fine. by the time you install the second one, GRUB will be replaced and look for other operational systems04:09
_kmh_xwolf- : that what i did, the installation was went fine, but now the old system does not boot properly anymore04:10
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xwolf-*afaik*, the last installation (partition) should have the bootable flag04:10
_kmh_xwolf- : yes04:11
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_kmh_so how can i have both bootable with a separate root disk ?04:11
fraserHelp needed please, when i download the Xorg upgrade xserver wont start: error No devices found04:12
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_kmh_xwolf- : another question - how can read /edit the grub configuration from linux ?04:12
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xwolf-fraser downgrade it to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.204:12
spazzhow to i prevent my monitor from turning off by itself? i dont see any power settings for it. not in screensavers... where do i find it04:13
xwolf-fraser i had the same problem.04:13
Ash-Fox(Can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to be sure.)04:13
fraserxwolf: How do i downgrade it ?04:13
xwolf-fraser read ash-fox's msg04:13
xwolf-fraser you either downgrade to 10.2 or upgrade to 10.404:13
Ash-FoxWell, mine is a newer version, which may not be on the mirrors yet04:13
xwolf-_kmh_ i dont follow you.04:13
fraserxwolf: thank you will try that04:14
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xwolf-spazz you mean like after N minutes it shuts down?04:14
nkRushspazz, system settings >> display04:14
_kmh_xwolf- : i want to read/edit the boot menu04:15
_kmh_xwolf- : but don't know how to access it04:15
xwolf-_kmh_ the boot menu is in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:15
_kmh_ok ty04:15
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skreechIs there any way to pipe sound over a ssh connection?04:16
jasondotgnuhello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?04:16
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gan|y|medplease have a look at it and tell me what's wrong it anybod can04:17
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skreechgan|y|med: What's itype?04:18
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jordo23Why is it that Konqueror will not accept some clicks on links that Firefox will.  For example: In some message forums I click on POST and nothing happens in KONQ but it works fine in Firefox?04:20
jordo23I thought Konq was supposed to be super accurate in rendering after passing the ACID2 test....04:21
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overlimitstart EE no devices found...any ideas someone?04:21
skreechjordo23: That was A) The ACID test so meaningless in the over all scheme of things B) in SVN and C) an experimental brance04:21
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_kmh_jordo23 : different scripting/plugins04:22
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jordo23skreech: Have you experienced this in KONq?04:22
skreechoverlimit: try sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg04:22
jordo23Can this be fixed?04:22
skreechjordo23: not recently if you give a link maybe someone can verify it04:22
liouncourtsal jucato04:22
liouncourtme again04:22
jordo23You would have to be a member of the website04:22
liouncourti install my video drivers04:23
Jucatohi liouncourt ehehe04:23
liouncourtand after this04:23
liouncourti restart computer04:23
liouncourteverything work smootfh04:23
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jordo23Has anyone experienced errors like this in Konq?04:23
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liouncourti install something else and my video don`t work04:24
skreechjordo23: Can you run the page through validate.w3.org?04:24
jordo23skreech: Will try04:24
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Jucatoliouncourt: what was that "something else" you installed?04:24
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liouncourtyou have any ideea if exist some incompatibilities in packages04:25
liouncourtsome games04:25
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jordo23skreech: can't find that site04:25
liouncourtbut when i install driver for my video card04:25
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skreechUmm sorry try validator.w3.org04:25
liouncourti need to enable other repositories04:25
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liouncourti think is some conflicts in repositories04:26
liouncourtwhat do you think?04:26
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liouncourtnow just i reinstall my kubuntu04:27
Jucatoliouncourt: it shouldn't have any conflicts. But some in rare cases it might happen04:27
jordo23skreech:  failed, with many many errors04:28
skreechCheck if the post is one of them04:28
liouncourtany ideea how i install rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz04:29
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Hawkwindliouncourt: Untar it, then cd to the directory it creates, and read the README file04:31
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overlimitI did dpkg-reconfigure but still no x and the error message doesn't say much04:31
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liouncourti just do this04:32
liouncourtand helps me04:32
overlimitall happened after I did a full upgrade04:32
overlimitfrom the package manager04:32
Tm_Toverlimit: topic?04:33
xeviloverlimit: dead xserver?04:33
Hawkwindoverlimit: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core04:33
Hawkwindoverlimit: What does that tell you ?04:33
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overlimitHawkwind: file or directory does not exist04:34
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"04:34
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synapticshello, can anyone tellme where i can find the old pastes files?04:36
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gan|y|medskreech: sry, had to work. i type is an initng script04:36
DaSkreechsynaptics: Sorry?04:36
DaSkreechitype is a shell?04:37
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[GuS] ?04:38
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synapticsok, anyone can help me out with getting mp3 to play in kubuntu04:39
DaSkreech!mp3 > synaptics04:39
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synapticsi accidentally formatted my hard drive and the info about it was in pastebin04:40
DaSkreechsynaptics: Search for it. there is a search function04:40
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[GuS] synaptics,  you must enable multiverse in your repositories to install libxine-extracodecs04:40
cannonballsynaptics: go into your browse history on your browser (unless that was in the partition that you formatted)04:40
synapticsthats the partition that i formated04:41
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synapticsthere is another paste bin site. but i cant remember the site04:41
DaSkreechpastebin.ca and paste.ubuntu-nl.com are the most common04:41
DaSkreechWhoops .org04:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:42
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scamehi, after updating X it won't work anymore thus im working on using nvidiafb instead of vga16fb in kubuntu 6.06 is this possible?04:52
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"04:52
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JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.04:53
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade04:53
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Jucato(presuming, of course, that the package is already available in your local server/mirror)04:53
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thoreauputicJucato: hasn't hit Australia yet it seems04:54
Ash-FoxOn all the Polish mirrors.04:54
scameanyways, so, when using usplash is there anyway to make kubuntu use the nvidiafb module instead of vga16fb ?04:54
Jucatothoreauputic: let me check...04:54
thoreauputicJucato: bimberi checked a few minutes ago in #ubuntu-au and it wasn't there yet04:55
dhqhow to create overburn in kubuntu04:55
Jucatothoreauputic: yep. not there yet :-D04:55
JucatoAsh-Fox: what's the URL for the Polish mirrors?04:56
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thoreauputicJucato: well, luckily I read the users mailing list so I knew about it04:56
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thoreauputicJucato: I'll wait a day or so I think04:56
DaSkreechWhat does the bad Xorg do>04:56
Jucatothoreauputic: maybe just a few hours :-D04:56
Dr_WillisX wont start it seems04:56
Dr_Willisor so i am hearing in the othe rchennals04:57
DaSkreechWith what error?04:57
Kyral_Laptopin Edgy?04:57
thoreauputicJucato: well, it's after midnight here so maybe in the morning :)04:57
Jucatoin Dapper04:57
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scameDaSkreech: i've one of those non-working X-es, if anyone needs the errors...04:57
Ash-FoxJucato, you can find them on easy source.04:57
DaSkreechMe mE !! i need em04:57
thoreauputicDr_Willis: see /topic04:57
Jucatowhat? you didn't here? it's all over #ubuntu and ubuntuforums, etc04:57
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craigdoes anyone know where you can get a website design program for linux04:57
JucatoAsh-Fox: I was going to manually check them if the updates are already there. nvm. thanks anyways04:58
scameDaSkreech: well i'm just upgrading to the latest patch, but i could send u the X*.log file of this non-working X04:58
JucatoQuanta Plus (or as Melchiorre said, Quanta+04:58
Ash-Foxscame, You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade04:58
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"04:58
DaSkreechcan't you grep it for EE ?04:58
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scameDaSkreech: yes, but where should I paste?04:58
JucatoDaSkreech: the error is "no screens found"04:58
scameDaSkreech: (EE) No devices detected.04:59
DaSkreechOh then that's not what is screwing my X then :-(04:59
Jucatoit's already a known issue, that downgrading is the only known solution until the newer update hits your servers04:59
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scameDaSkreech:  but that's more to it!04:59
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JucatoDaSkreech: I think there was a "no devices found" error, too. Just not sure though04:59
DaSkreechI don't get any errors05:00
DaSkreechIt just doesn't start05:00
moebius_are there any plans to packages amarok 1.4.2beta?05:00
scameDaSkreech: it was something with libGLcore (which i had to disable from xorg.conf) some symbol with Context was missing05:00
Phantomi'm trying to get windows file sharing with samba working on kubuntu 6.06.  I go to system setings in the k menu, select the "sharing" icon, hit the "file sharing" icon, become root with the become admin button, but all the file sharing settings are greyed out.  any idea?n,05:00
DaSkreechIt does look for BusID PCI:1:0:1 though05:00
DaSkreechWhich I'm pretty sure is not in any X config file05:00
JucatoDaSkreech: you'll see the errors when  you  press Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, the type startx05:00
Dr_WillisPhantom,  you may need to insall some of the samba packages.05:00
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:01
DaSkreechI have. There are no errors05:01
Jucatohm... ok then. different issue... @_@05:01
DaSkreechPhantom: You need to install a samba server05:01
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DaSkreechJucato: Want a pastebin of my startx log?05:01
Phantomdr_willis: the samba client tools currently work.  are these programs seperate from the server?05:02
Jucatoerr.. I wouldn't be able to interpret it anyway...05:02
Jucatobut you may as well... someone might know05:02
synapticsHow do i edit a file with root access in konsole?05:02
DaSkreechHmm got somethign new now05:02
Dr_WillisPhantom,  i recall insalling the server package specificially05:02
DaSkreechksmsserver could not start05:02
Jucatosynaptics: "sudo nano <filename>"05:02
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Dr_Willisthe samba client tools for KDE are different from some of the other samba related packages05:02
synapticsthank u05:03
DaSkreechksmserver is the session manager?05:03
synapticsbtw, anyone knows where the sources.list is located?05:03
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DaSkreechsynaptics: /etc/apt/sources.list05:03
Jucatohe's fast05:03
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DaSkreechJucato: But not loose :)05:04
synapticsthank u05:04
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Phantomdr_willis: I searched for "samba" in adept, and i only have the samba-common package installed.  however, none of the packages look like the server package.  do you recall which package is needed?05:05
Dr_WillisPhantom,  nope. just sambe i thought05:05
Dr_WillisPhantom,  start the samba service with /etc/init.d/samba start05:05
Phantomdr_willis: i see it now, thanks05:06
craighow do you compile kdewebdev-3.5.3??05:06
Dr_WillisPhantom,  ii cent recall EVER using that kde samba config stuff. I edit the samba config, and set up home shares. and thats ablut all i do. and make a 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' samba password for every user.05:06
DaSkreechWith a computer05:06
synapticsJucato: how do i edit it with kate inside the terminal?05:06
DaSkreechsynaptics: kdesu kate /etc.apt.sources.lsit05:07
E[m] esshi, my box powered down in a thunderstorm when we had a blackout, and when i boot normally it stops after initialising X and justshows the ubuntu splash. when i boot into recovry mode and try to startx, i get the error that no devices were found/initialised. i looked at the X config and its fine but also says no screens in the error, any ideas?05:07
DaSkreechbah. Just spell ti right05:07
E[m] essdid an update for x jsut before05:07
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"05:07
DaSkreechE[m] ess: Let me guess you did an update recently?05:07
DaSkreechJucato: you have that scripted no fair :(05:07
JucatoI've had that scripted since... hm... more than 6 hours ago?05:08
DaSkreech!b-e > craig05:08
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gan|y|medplaying videos with xine (no matter with what gui) is extremely slow.. any ideas why?05:09
Phantomdr_willis: I tried editing the config directly before, when I used fedora, and never got it to work. do you have any advice on how to configure it.  i just want to be able to share files like when you're on windows and select to share for everyone with no password.05:09
gan|y|medit used to work after the fresh dapper install05:09
synapticshow do i update my sources.list ?05:09
E[m] essyeah update, im guessing X core is broken05:09
DaSkreechsynaptics: You edit it05:09
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DaSkreechE[m] ess: Yup listen to Jucato05:09
synapticsi mean after editing it05:09
Ash-Foxyou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:09
DaSkreechsynaptics: Save then apt-get update05:09
synapticsis it apt-get update sources.list ?05:09
Jucatoheheh Ash-Fox also has it scripted :-D05:10
E[m] esssweet, thanks05:10
DaSkreechsynaptics: No just apt-get update05:10
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gsuvegknot-1 use kde4pre ?05:11
E[m] essok, il go try it thanks yall05:11
Jucatogsuveg: AFAIK, no05:11
synapticsit says05:11
synapticsE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:11
synapticsE: Unable to lock the list directory05:11
Jucatosynaptics: is Adept open?05:11
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get update05:11
Ash-FoxRun it with sudo, or close your other package manager.05:12
synapticsits closed05:12
gsuvegJucato: not yet ?05:12
synapticsahh it works, thanks DaSkreech05:12
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shadeofgreyhey everybody05:12
shadeofgreyi need help05:12
Jucatogsuveg: yep. not yet. KDE 4 won't make it in time for the release of Edgy anyway05:12
Ash-Foxshadeofgrey, yes?05:12
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DaSkreechKDE4 libs will though :)05:13
gsuvegJucato: ah. thanks.05:13
shadeofgreyi just found out taht i have glaucoma and am going blind05:13
Ash-Foxshadeofgrey, what a shame.05:13
shadeofgreyi need to download and install the best gui based text editor that allows me to use a full sized square asa cursor05:13
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gsuvegmaybe OT: kde or gnome use less memory  ?05:13
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shadeofgreyi cant see the sinmgle line that all the big wordprocessors use anymore05:13
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shadeofgreyis there like an addon for openoffice or abiword that makes the default prompt a square?05:14
Jucatohonestly? I haven't noticed05:14
shadeofgreyhi jucato!05:14
Jucatohi shadeofgrey05:15
gan|y|medok, i start kaffeine. the video is god damn slow. i try to start kaffeine again and nothing happens... any ideas. totem works. xine-ui has the same problem, so i assume it is a xine problem...05:15
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DaSkreechDid you update anythign recently?05:15
shadeofgreyjuc:  you wouldnt happen to know of any work arounds for openoffive or abiword that make the default pro,mpt a square?05:15
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402 btw05:15
Jucatoshadeofgrey: nope. sorry05:16
DaSkreechDatos: You know somethign about this?05:16
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Emessdidnt like the version number,,,05:16
DaSkreechAh you just like saying openoffice?05:16
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utabdisasterous updates today05:17
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.05:17
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"05:17
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DaSkreechJucato: Check out the pastebin. There are no errors05:17
Ash-FoxJucato, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:17
Jucatolol! Ash-Fox modified his script05:18
Ash-Foxah whoops, I should stop glacing :P05:18
JucatoDaSkreech: I know... I just posted that for the information of others...05:18
EmessAsh-Fox: that last command doesnt work for me, says no version number05:18
waspiushi..i have installed java on my pc but when i open firefox it tells me that a plugin is missing05:18
utabhow to mount some samba drives automatically05:18
DaSkreechwaspius: How did you install java?05:18
waspiusDaSkreech: apt-get install ..05:19
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Jucatowaspius: did you perform the "update-java-alternatives" instructions?05:19
Ash-FoxEmess, 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:19
gan|y|medxine-check gives me some very strange messages - libxine is not installed according to it, but it is. and i cannot use xv (ati card). any ideas?05:20
Emessand i cant get it to roll back one, says 1:1.0.2ubuntu10 not found for xserver-xorg-core05:20
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.05:20
waspiusJucato: no05:20
synapticshow do i dualboot without affecting other drives?05:20
Jucatowaspius: you need to do it.05:20
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:20
EmessAsh-Fox: i used that, didnt work05:20
JucatoEmess: Ash-Fox's instructions were incomplete05:20
Ash-FoxEmess, I forgot the 1: before and I added it now?05:20
JucatoEmess: notice the =1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1005:20
Emesswell crap, got the updated instructions?05:21
Emessoh ok, thanks05:21
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.05:21
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Emessworking now :d05:21
utabhow to mount samba network drives automatically05:21
JucatoI keep on repeating the same thing, but since I don't know how to make the alias command like Ash-Fox's, nobody takes notice...05:21
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Emessis there a reasonteh update crashes?05:22
Jucatoit's broken/bugged05:22
DaSkreechcause open source sucketh the big one05:22
Emessok, so upgrading again wont help05:22
JucatoEmess: not unless your local server/mirror already has the fixed package05:23
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Emessmy local server is 10 minutes walk, il go give them a buzz05:23
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h3sp4wnjust wget it from one which does have it05:23
Emessgood point05:23
Jucatoerr.. local Ubuntu server/mirror...05:23
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Emesseither way im gonna try starting x again05:23
EmessJucato: i know, the perth ubuntu repo is at teh University of Westerna Australia, about 10 minutes from me05:24
bekiilwhats the url to the script-o-matic for update mirrors ?05:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:25
utabhelp for automatic mounting of samba network drives05:25
bekiilah, source-o-matic, :D05:25
DaSkreechutab: Why don't you just use smb://05:25
DaSkreechsmb:/ sorry :(05:25
utabDaSkreech, actually05:26
utabDaSkreech, I had a script I want add this to one of the init files05:26
LeeJunFanugh, srcforge seems borken - their redir script is timing out.05:26
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utabDaSkreech, but dunno where;(05:27
DaSkreechWhat are you trying to do with it?05:27
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utabDaSkreech, I have a network poll that I want to connect to05:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:28
VincentMXgabro: see what ubotu said05:28
VincentMXonly spanish work i know is pizza :P05:28
DaSkreechHmm I've never tried to mount one before but I suspect that smbfs might be the proper FS05:29
DaSkreechThat's italian05:29
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VincentMXit's a joke05:29
DaSkreechYou are offically illiterate then :-)05:29
bekiilguess i have to reboot after a kernel update? hehe05:29
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DaSkreechUnless you actually want to >use< the kernel05:29
VincentMXwho does?05:30
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Ash-FoxI only install new kernels if they're security updates05:30
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jaffa_guys how do i down grade xserver-xorg-core help me please05:31
djdarkmanhello ,kdm won`t start ,I just upraded the xorg ,what can I do?05:31
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JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"05:32
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.05:32
DaSkreechawww Ash-Fox didn't kick in :(05:32
Jucatofine! mine's uglier than Ash-Fox's...05:32
JucatoI'll rest mine now... Ash-Fox can take over05:33
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djdarkmancan you paste this on a pastebin ,cause I`m using bitchx?05:33
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gan|y|medhow do i do an auto execution of a custom script right after the x server starts - kdm?05:34
synapticswhat is 6.06? is it dapper or breezy?05:34
stoftsynaptics: dapper05:34
Mezsynaptics, dapper05:34
DaSkreechgan|y|med: Put it in ~/.kde/Autostart05:34
Mez!dapper > synaptics05:34
Ash-Foxdjdarkman http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/xorg05:34
Jucatojust to add to the chorus...05:34
MezDaSkreech, that will only make it run on login05:34
DaSkreechgan|y|med: Why X?05:35
djdarkmanthanks Ash-Fox05:36
Jucato putting it in /usr/share/autostart would make it run when KDE first starts right?05:36
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DaSkreechDoes anyone have a Server that has the new Xserver?05:37
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gan|y|meddoesn't work05:38
Ash-FoxDaSkreech, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:38
gan|y|medbecause i need the xserver to run05:38
Ash-Foxgan|y|med, read what I wrote.05:39
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DaSkreechgan|y|med: The script relies on X?05:40
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gan|y|medDaSkreech: seems so. it just does: aticonfig --set-powerstate 105:41
DaSkreechYou need that to run for everyone?05:41
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gan|y|medi am the only user05:43
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:43
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DaSkreechok then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart05:43
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gan|y|meddoesn't work05:44
gan|y|medit just doesn't do anything05:44
synapticsshould i restart after apt-get update ?05:44
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troydoes anyone have problems with amarok playing flac + xine-engine with the most current amarok and xine packages?05:45
trappistsynaptics: no05:45
gan|y|medtroy: i have problems with xine in general. my videos are veeeerrrryyy slow05:45
DaSkreechgan|y|med: is sound slow?05:46
troygan|y|med: not video, just audio :P05:46
Ash-Foxgan|y|med, in the console, type 'glxinfo |grep direct', just out of curiousity?05:46
Hawkwindhttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2283  <~~New KDE menu in openSuSe 10.2 currently.  Will be a standard soon enough it seems :)05:46
gan|y|meddirect rendering: Yes05:47
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excitatorytroy: yea.. it's an error in xine 1.1.1 -- xine 1.1.2 fixed it a long time ago, but dapper has not been updated.05:47
excitatorytroy: there's a solution, one moment..05:47
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gan|y|medthis get's on my nerves. video output worked with dapper. now it doesn't... i don't k now why. i am using ati's driver and opengl is enabled05:47
dhqwhen i burn a dvd in gnome i get this error "05:48
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dhqWARNING: /dev/sr0 already carries isofs!05:48
dhqAbout to execute 'mkisofs -gui -V GnomeBaker data disk -A GnomeBaker -p root -iso-level 3 -l -R -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points Titanic (1997).avi=/home/dhq/muvees/Titanic (1997).avi | builtin_dd of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0'05:48
gan|y|medDaSkreech: any idea why th escript is not executed in autostart?05:48
dhqINFO:UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings.05:48
dhqAssuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,05:48
dhquse -input-charset to override.05:48
dhq:-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error05:48
dhq/dev/sr0: "Current Write Speed" is 2.0x1385KBps.05:48
dhq:-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument05:48
dhq:-( write failed: Invalid argument05:48
DaSkreechgan|y|med: It's not executable?05:48
Ash-Foxgan|y|med, well, you've got hardware acceleration, you could try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable the 'v4l' module (video for linux), it may solve your problems.05:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:48
Hawkwinddhq: ^^^^^^^^^^05:48
troyexcitatory: appreciate it :)05:49
gan|y|medthat is a BAD idea i think... messing up with ati's config... but manual editing should work. how do i enable v4l in xorg.conf?05:49
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dhqHawkwind: sorry05:49
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pussfellermy cd drives are not showing up :(05:49
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Ash-Foxgan|y|med, can't remember off the top of my head05:50
trappistdhq: try renaming the file to something without spaces, special characters, etc.05:50
pussfellershould hdc and hdd be in fstab05:50
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excitatorytroy: run this command: wget http://www.databrowser.org/download/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb && sudo aptitude install libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb05:50
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pussfelleri thot hal took care of that stuff05:50
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gan|y|medok, I#ll try the script again.05:51
dhqtrappist: ok will do that05:51
excitatorytroy: argh05:51
excitatorytroy: wait, that's not correct05:51
excitatorytroy: run this command: wget http://www.databrowser.org/download/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb05:51
gan|y|medany idea why konqueror (web mode) is so go damn slow05:51
excitatorytroy: run that..sorry05:51
troyexcitatory: merci :)05:51
gan|y|medand what about v4l?05:51
DaSkreechgan|y|med: How much memory do you have?05:52
synapticsok, i give up. how exactly do i update my sources.list with mp3 support ?05:52
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:52
excitatorytroy: in case it's not obvious, that downloads a xine 1.1.2 deb, then tells dpkg to install it.  Here's where i found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1252222&postcount=1705:52
trappist!repos > synaptics05:52
dhqHawkwind: is 3 line pasting ok05:52
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excitatorytroy: and obviously, when the command finishes, you'll have to restart amarok.05:53
troyexcitatory: I appreciate it - I'll let the people in #amarok know as well, train their bot maybe :)05:53
trappistdhq: summarize it or use pastebin, please05:53
excitatorytroy: they know05:53
excitatoryi frequent05:53
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troyexcitatory: oh, hrm - small problem... amd64 vs. i386 :/05:54
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:fdoving] : Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Your X broken, the fix is to update again.
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excitatorytroy: what you have amd64?05:54
dhq:-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with05:54
dhqSK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error05:55
dhq/dev/sr0: "Current Write Speed" is 2.0x1385KBps.05:55
dhq:-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] :05:55
dhq:-( write failed: Invalid argument05:55
DaSkreechRight reinstalled Xorg and didn't make a difference05:55
fyyrest0rmugh i think i've about had it with wine heh05:55
troyexcitatory: yeah, probably relevant :)05:55
trappistdhq: that wasn't a summary or pastebin.05:55
excitatorytroy: if so, you'll have to compile it yourself.. or get on the asses of dapper backports.05:55
Hawkwinddhq: Heh that's twice now.  Please use pastebin for pasting things.  http://pastebin.ca05:55
DaSkreechsynaptics: Pastebin your sources.list05:55
dhqtrappist: will use pastebine from now on05:55
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee05:55
Hobbseehey DaSkreech05:56
troyexcitatory: I'll see what sort of deps the eft packages have, maybe I can drop-in replace...05:56
excitatorytroy: idk.. might be a bad idea.. i would just apply the available patch and recompile.05:57
excitatorybut do what you will.. and don't complain when your system breaks.05:57
synapticsDaSkreech:  http://pastebin.ca/14453505:57
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DaSkreechsynaptics: Looks good05:58
DaSkreech What's the issue?05:58
synapticsi still cant play mp3 in amarok or play any videos05:58
dhqtrappist: any idea05:58
trappistdhq: no, I lost interest in the problem when you pasted again.05:59
DaSkreechsynaptics: did you install libxine-extracodecs ?05:59
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synapticshow do i install that?05:59
synapticsi think i dont have that one installed05:59
dhqtrappist: plz i need help burn my dvd05:59
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:59
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DaSkreechUnless you like using adept :)05:59
dhqtrappist: having this problem for a very long time with gnome baker and k3b06:00
synapticsi dont really like using adept06:00
DaSkreechnixternal: hey hey06:00
bekiilin what script can i put "rmmod psmouse" ? I have to remove the module before the laptop reboots/shuts down06:00
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gan|y|medhave to go06:00
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nixternalhiya DaSkreech06:02
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troyexcitatory: appreciate the help - I'll see if I can get it to work myself...06:02
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DaSkreechnixternal: How do you diagnose somethign with no errors?06:03
pielgrzymhello, I want to upgrade my kernel in a quite fresh kubuntu install. I've got Athlon XP 2000+. If I install linux-686 package will it work ok?06:03
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UmInAsHoEis it cool to upgrade now?06:04
Ash-FoxUmInAsHoE, upgrade what?06:04
DaSkreechnixternal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2140206:04
synapticsthank you DaSkreech , it works06:04
DaSkreechNo errors/ Just dies06:04
Ash-Foxit's okay to upgrade xorg if the upgrade is 10.406:04
DaSkreechsynaptics: sure ;)06:04
synapticslol, been doing it for 2hrs06:04
pielgrzymall I need to do is just download the package linux-686 through Adept? :)06:04
DaSkreechsorry thought you knew what you needed alerady06:05
UmInAsHoEi got 10.3 installed and the upgrade is 10.4 so yeh should be then?06:05
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UmInAsHoE10* even06:05
bekiilAnyone that knows how to remove the psmouse module on reboot/shutdown automagically ?06:05
Ash-FoxIt should be okay to upgrade to 10.406:05
trappistpielgrzym: use the -k7 kernel06:05
UmInAsHoEsweet thanks06:06
nixternalwhy are you using the Radeon drivers and not fglrx?06:06
DaSkreechnixternal: Don't ask.06:06
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UmInAsHoEalso i am stil having driver mis-match problems with xserver apprently my kernel nvidia modules is 1.0-8762 and my x module is 1.0-7***06:06
nixternalplus xserver is borked as it is...i can't even use nvidia or fglxr from the repos06:07
UmInAsHoEand i have to re-install the nvidia drivers everytime i want to startx after reboot06:07
nixternalooops..im using edgy though06:07
gorusanybody got ubuntu working with kodak easyshare c360 ??06:07
DaSkreechnixternal: Yeah but you get an error06:07
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pielgrzymtrappist: it's better for amd?06:07
nixternalfunny thing..i don't even see the typica wacom error in the post06:07
DaSkreechnixternal: yay emacs06:07
TubaSoldierdoes anyone know the status of the botched xorg update yesterday?06:07
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trappistpielgrzym: it pretty much *is* amd06:08
nixternaldid you cut out the wacom stuff?06:08
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JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.06:08
DaSkreechI eliminated all the errors to find out that none of them are causing X to not start06:08
pielgrzymtrappist: thanks a lot :)06:08
TubaSoldierJucato: thanks for that information06:08
DaSkreechGo Jucato  :)06:08
nixternalwacom can cause x to not start06:08
UmInAsHoEwhat is wacom?06:08
trappistpielgrzym: apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.15-23-k706:08
DaSkreechWith no errors?06:08
Jucatocouldn't stop myself...06:08
nixternali had the issue with a release we are working on06:08
pielgrzymtrappist: what does it do?06:09
DaSkreechUmInAsHoE: Google is your friend :)06:09
trappistpielgrzym: shows you what you want to know about the package06:09
DaSkreechnixternal: What was the fix?06:09
UmInAsHoElol was just a general question but i may aswell while i wait for the updates to download06:09
nixternali don't know... raphink would know..it is his baby06:09
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pielgrzymtrappist: I see :) I started downloading the k7 kernel with all other packages (29MB) through Adept package manager :)06:10
UmInAsHoEi could never manage to get xgl / compiz / cgwd to work with my kubuntu anyone else find that?06:10
trappistgood deal06:10
Ash-Foxisn't xgl, compiz, cgwd alpha quality software?06:10
UmInAsHoE:S ah fair enough06:11
trappistUmInAsHoE: yeah I couldn't either.  got xgl working with some unofficial packages, but it didn't work well enough to stick with.  was pretty cool for a while, though.06:11
trappistAsh-Fox: yep.06:11
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trappistAsh-Fox: but it's pretty dang cool.06:11
h3sp4wnIf you want those the versions in edgy are alot newer (saves using unofficial repos)06:11
UmInAsHoEi just resorted back to default config causes way to many problems06:11
Ash-Foxtrappist, I get the feeling it'd only slow down my software :P06:11
synapticsi installed the wine package and sources in source.list and updated my list...........how do i open wine?06:11
craigcan anyone tell me where to get website editing software for kubuntu and how to install it??06:11
UmInAsHoEerm :| my adept just disappeard06:11
Ash-Foxcraig, adept.06:12
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB06:12
trappistAsh-Fox: it didn't slow anything down for me.  the problem was that kde-window-decorator doesn't work at all, so I had to use gnome-window-decorator, which didn't communicate well with stuff like kicker.06:12
craigok thanks06:12
TubaSoldiernvu is also a pretty cool web editor.06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
exotic need some help plz, any plugin can extrat .rar files ?06:12
craigkubuntu linux beats windows in every way (except multimedia capabilities)06:12
synapticsi installed the wine package and sources in source.list and updated my list...........how do i open wine? <--- any ideas ?06:12
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JucatoUmInAsHoE: wacom is a manufacturer of graphics tablets06:12
ketsugiHow can I properly enable Chinese fonts in KDE? All Chinese words show up as dots. Japanese is fine, and both languages display fine in Gnome.06:13
Jucatosynaptics: you use wine like "wine <.exe file>"06:13
DaSkreechcraig: And games :)06:13
trappistexotic: sudo apt-get install unrar06:13
tsolutionsitchi, where is kubuntu ita pls06:13
Jucatoyou actually have to type it (or right-click on the .exe file and open with wine)06:13
synapticsJucato: do i have to configure it. example winecfg ? .....06:13
trappistexotic: then unrar x rarfile.rar06:13
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:13
Jucatosynaptics: you can. just run "winecfg"06:14
UmInAsHoEone of my mates managed to install a virus on my windows drive so i am going kubuntu full time now :P06:14
craigdoes anyone know how to play Mp3 files??06:14
UmInAsHoEreally cant be arsed to clean it up06:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:14
exotictrappist: thanx, but what does x stands for? or just type x ?06:14
DaSkreech!mp3 > craig06:14
trappistexotic: eXtract06:14
Jucatodarn! i forget that ">"...06:14
synapticsi tried to run the command . but it says winecfg. could not run the specified command06:14
trappistexotic: yeah just type the x06:14
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exotictrappist:thanx really06:15
UmInAsHoE!mesa > UmInAsHoE06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
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synapticsJucato:  i tried to run the command . but it says winecfg. could not run the specified command06:16
craigwhich is best KDE or Gnome??06:16
UmInAsHoEdoes anyone know a fix for having 2 audio capable devices playing at the same time?06:16
Jucatosynaptics: hm... that's strange... I can run it without problems here...06:16
trappistJucato: get a card that does hardware mixing, like an audigy, or use a software mixer like artsd06:17
UmInAsHoEcraig, as you are in the #kubuntu channel most of us will say KDE06:17
fdovingcraig: kde. :)06:17
craigit looks cooler06:17
bekiilDoes anyone know a solution to my question ? please, annoying to have to do it manually06:17
Jucatotrappist: I think you got the wrong person...06:17
fdovingcraig: if you ask the same question in #ubuntu they will say gnome.06:17
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UmInAsHoEbrb trying new drivers06:18
craigyea stupid question!!!06:18
Dr_Willisbest - depends on what you are doing.06:18
trappistJucato: yep.  oops :)06:18
h3sp4wnIf you ask the same question in #ubuntu you will probably get banned for trolling06:18
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h3sp4wn(I have seen it happen before once)06:18
Dr_Willisthey are too busy  tellking people to downgrade their X at the moment. :)06:19
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fdovingh3sp4wn: we're nicer in here then. :)06:19
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Jucatowe're fewer in here.. ^_^06:19
fdovingJucato: the elite. :)06:20
synapticsJucato: i edited my source list and put in  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main                and           deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main              but wine doesnt seem to work06:20
Jucatohmm.. where did you get those repositories synaptics?06:20
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Ash-Foxwine is angry :(06:20
Dr_Willisusing wine right now to run utorrent.exe :)06:20
synapticsi got it from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:21
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DaSkreechbekiil: What question?06:21
synapticsany ideas why wine doesnt work?06:21
synapticsi did the sudo apt-get update06:21
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Dr_Williswhat 'dosent' work about it?06:21
Agiosxserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 is the fixed one?06:21
rigo_laphi all, somebody with ati radeon upgraded Xorg this morning from 6.06 TLS and has a hint where to find a solution to the regression?06:21
JucatoAgios: yes06:22
Agiosk, thx :)06:22
ElectrolyteAnyone remember that command to enable hardware buffers for Audigy 2 sound cards?06:22
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"06:22
ElectrolyteRemoved my Yamaha XG card :/06:22
synapticsDr_Willis:  i cant get it to run. it says, it cannot find the specified command06:22
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:22
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rigo_lapJucato: Thanks a lot06:22
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.06:22
Jucatorigo_lap: sure no problem06:23
bekiilDaSkreech: I have to remove the psmouse module on every reboot/shutdown06:23
synapticsany ideas how i can get wine to work?06:23
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DaSkreechbekiil: how come?06:23
h3sp4wnsynaptics: corkscrew ?06:23
synapticsnot that kind of wine06:24
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bekiilhm, Laptop issue06:24
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ElectrolyteI can't actually remember the person who gave me this command actually to enable hardware buffers in ALSA.06:24
ElectrolyteAnd I said actually twice :/06:24
bekiilif i dont remove the module boots takes 20sec longer, somtimes kb is gone too06:25
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KaiserSuseHi.. some time ago I read about a configuration file where I could "hardlink" Ethernet NIC MAC with their interface names so that they wouldn't change... what was that?06:26
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Dr_Willissynaptics,  whats the exact command ya are doing?06:27
h3sp4wnKaiserSuse: /etc/iftab ? (I think it is something like that)06:27
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craigcan you get Dreamweaver 8 to work with wine06:28
Ash-Foxcraig, http://appdb.winehq.or06:28
synapticslet me double check it Dr_Willis06:28
Ash-Foxcraig, http://appdb.winehq.org06:28
synapticsi think i missed out something06:28
Dr_Willisexample wine ussage.... (wine 101)06:28
Dr_Williswget http://download.utorrent.com/1.6/utorrent.exe06:29
Dr_Williswine utorrent.exe06:29
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ElectrolyteNo one knows what the command is to enable hardware buffers via ALSA then? I know for a fact it was someone in here.06:30
flattersrhi room06:30
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Ash-FoxElectrolyte, I would think it's a modprobe parameter.06:30
ElectrolyteNot sure, it was just a small command that worked extremely well in SuSE.06:31
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:32
RogueXCan anyone tell me how to get the menus to go in Alphbet order again after adding addional apps???06:32
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flattersrhi all,  i have install kubuntu on my system and i have been trying to install yahoo messenger but it working06:33
Dr_WillisWhat do ya think this is! windows! :P06:33
flattersrany ideas06:33
trappistElectrolyte: it was probably crimsun06:33
Dr_WillisRogueX,  actually ive never noticed that. :)06:33
craigWOW you can install Dreamweaver MX!!!!!!!!06:34
ElectrolyteWell, I can't seem to find it :E06:34
flattersrbut it not working i ment to say sorry06:34
synapticscraig: really? what about flash 8?06:34
craigFlash MX06:34
markrianflattersr, Kopete (Kubuntu's instant messenger) connects to the yahoo network06:34
synapticsahhhh i see06:34
craigbut you can only download it on a P2P06:34
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Ash-Foxmarkrian, the current version does it badly.06:35
synapticscraig: have you tried running adobe photoshop cs?06:35
craigMX was before "8"06:35
craigno not yet06:35
flattersrright so i dont have to bother with yahoo messenger06:35
trappistElectrolyte: if it was said in here, I probably have it logged.  I'm looking now.06:35
flattersrthat fair06:35
synapticsyeah. ive got 8 in my other system06:35
ElectrolyteYeah it was said in here trappist, but about a week ago I think :E06:35
RogueXDr_Willis: Well for example I just added Smb4k and its now at the top of the Utilities menu ahead of Arc, Kate, and the rest06:35
markrianflattersr, Ash-Fox tells me that Kopete doesn't actually connect to Yahoo very well...06:35
ElectrolyteI've only just got Kubuntu all working after a LAN I was.06:35
ElectrolyteI was at*06:35
markrianflattersr, but there are alternatives06:35
flattersrand they are?06:36
DaSkreechKopete does pretty well for me06:36
craigI have tried 8 on kubuntu but have all failed06:36
Ash-FoxYes, bitlbee, gaim, centericq (I think that's the console based one)06:36
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trappistElectrolyte: I found you asking about it06:36
Ash-FoxDaSkreech, kopete is always dropping my yahoo connection randomly.06:37
synapticsgood think i still have MX here06:37
markrianAsh-Fox, which version of Kopete do you have?06:37
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craigwhere can you download MX??06:38
markrianAsh-Fox, well, the APT version that is - `dpkg -l kopete` or whatever you like to use06:38
synapticsi got it from a friend. he bought it and i just borrowed it from him06:39
Ash-Foxii  kopete                              3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2                    instant messenger for KDE06:39
exoticwhen i try to dpkg .deb file i get : dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege, any help please?06:39
synapticsits been here for almost a year now *lol* . i dont think he needs it06:39
RogueXCan anyone tell me how to get the menus to go in Alphbet order again after adding addional apps???06:39
ubotukopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/06:39
exoticany help please?06:40
trappistElectrolyte: I didn't find anything on that06:41
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Kreamhi all06:41
DaSkreechRogueX: don't know of a fast way off the top of my head. Try KmenuEdit06:41
craigdoes anyone know where the directory for wine is?? (where all the files are downloaded)06:41
ElectrolyteDamn :(06:41
ElectrolyteI swear someone gave me a command in this channel.06:41
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trappistElectrolyte: could it have had something to do with a module parameter, like index=0? (I'm pretty sure that just says which sound card is which, but it's all I found in the logs)06:42
looktji cant boot up06:42
synapticswill kubuntu have any support for synaptics touchpad drivers?06:42
ElectrolyteNo it wasn't that.06:42
ElectrolyteThat part is sorted.06:42
RogueXDaSkreech: I looked at that.. I can drag them in order but what a pain since it's quite out of order from removeing and adding apps06:42
Kreamam migrating the computers in my lab (which used to run gentoo) to kubuntu. I'm having trouble getting the w32codecs packages to work since both ftp.cipherfunk.org and the PLF ubuntu repositories are down. can someone who has working w32codecs support paste me their sources.list file ?06:42
Dr_Willissynaptics,  it installed/confifgured that by default on my laptop..so I guess thats a YES :)06:43
Jucatotrappist, Electrolyte I think there are logs for #kubuntu available online...06:43
looktjhelp  i cant boot x06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntulog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
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synapticsDr_Willis: how do you disable tapping ?06:43
looktjmeaning i cant update it06:43
TheGateKeeperKream: hang on get you wget ...06:43
DaSkreechRogueX: Mine does it by itself I'm not sure what there is is to do it automatically06:43
ElectrolyteJust checking if anyone in #alsa is around.06:43
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs06:43
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KreamThanks, TheGateKeeper06:43
TheGateKeeperwget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb06:44
TheGateKeepersudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb06:44
Dr_Willissynaptics,  edit the xorg.conf and use the right option, i guess. :P  never messed with it myself. but it seems to be a FAQ06:44
KreamTheGateKeeper: thanks a bunch, that should work fine.06:44
Dr_Willissynaptics,  also theres a little icon-tray widget on my laptop that has that option in it.06:44
synapticsi tried that out. but it doesnt work06:44
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Dr_WillisEither ya did it wrong. :P or you dident restart X after changeing the file06:44
Dr_Willisor it dont work. :P06:45
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synapticsDr_Willis: i did restart. i only changed the value from true to false06:45
TheGateKeeperKream: yw :-) bookmark this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper06:45
RogueXDaSkreech: yea it use to do it on its own but as more things changed it got mixed up06:45
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Electrolytetrappist, I found it.06:45
Electrolyteit was you :P06:45
Electrolyteps aux | grep arts <-- is the command.06:45
Dr_WillisIf you set MaxTapTime=0 in the X config file then the touchpad will not use tapping at all, i.e. touching/tapping will not be taken as a mouse click.06:46
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synapticsahh, so i have to download the files06:46
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:47
ElectrolyteI think #kubuntu has a bad version of ALSA :/06:47
KreamTheGateKeeper: i've looked at the kubuntu wiki today, it still contains references to plf's repositories, which closed sometime ago06:47
ElectrolyteI still have pops when playing wave files and the volume of audio changes when played by the system.06:47
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TheGateKeeperKream: hang on...06:47
TheGateKeeperKream: I have corrected it: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories06:48
TheGateKeeperKream: more usefull bit & pieces here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home06:49
synapticsomg. its 12.49am06:49
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Jucatosynaptics: what the? are we in the same timezone?06:49
Jucatosynaptics: yeah...06:49
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synapticswhere u from?06:50
JucatoPhilippines. ehehehe06:50
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KreamTheGateKeeper: no, it's got the plf repositories too06:50
ElectrolyteWhat's happened to the FAQ? I can no longer find the automatic script for mounting NTFS partitions for read only :(06:50
synapticshaha. not far from my country06:50
synapticsim in Brunei06:50
Jucatoehehe I guessed so :-D06:51
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ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware or connect to irc.freenode.net:8001 - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-106806:51
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
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bekiilNow. How about ipw3945, how do i get it working, :)06:51
TheGateKeeperKream: yes but they are corrected PLF ones, the ones on the wiki site wil error out, but for the w32codecs the wget I gave you is a better bet06:52
ElectrolyteI found it - I think.06:52
synapticshmm, i will surely be sleeping at work today06:52
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KreamTheGateKeeper: hm. dig packages.freecontrib.org doesn't resolve06:53
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ElectrolyteThere we go, disks mounted :)06:53
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synapticsahhh, i just got wine working06:55
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trappistI can't think of a reason we can't have a wine package that works out of the box06:55
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Jucatosynaptics: how did you do it?06:55
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synapticsi forgot to use another command06:56
synapticsmissed out one06:56
smPozdrawiam wszystkich06:56
Jucatowhich command?06:57
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:57
synapticsnow, how do i uninstall something from wine06:57
TheGateKeeperKream: that is the set of repos that I use06:57
flattersrFrom the Kopete menu how do i select groups to get into chat rooms06:57
Jucatosynaptics: "wine <installer_filename.exe>"06:57
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Dr_Willisor just delete the .wine/c_drive or whatever and have a clean install :P06:59
synapticsahh, thanks Dr_Willis06:59
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synapticsthats better06:59
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Dr_Willistheres lots of neat littel tricks with wine06:59
Dr_WillisUsing wine to run utorrent at the moment.. it works.. with just a few little bugglets07:00
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synapticswhere is the wine/c_drive located?07:00
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Dr_Willis and it would be in your home dir - of course. :P07:00
Dr_Willisi always make a link to that c_drive or whatever its called to my Homedir. :)07:00
flattersrJust wondering how do i get the list of chat rooms to show on Kopete07:00
andredflattersr: chat rooms are not yet supported in kopete07:01
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Dr_WillisYou will STAY in IRC forever! :P07:01
onTecHnoI can't install Samba because of dependencies: samba: depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 shoul dbe installed07:01
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flattersrwhat can i use so that i can get the chat rooms to show07:02
Jucatoanyone else experiencing disconnections in Yahoo using Kopete?07:02
draikHello everyone.07:02
Dr_WillisonTecHno,  i think at this time theres a lot of server updates going on.07:02
draikWhat's the word?07:02
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Dr_WillisonTecHno,  ya may need to do a apt-get update/upgrade  again07:02
draikyou're up?07:02
draikThis is new07:02
Jucatotold ya I'd still be up07:02
onTecHnoDr_Willis: I did it just right now07:02
Dr_WillisonTecHno,  from what i am hearing - the servers are updateing as we speek. :P07:03
draikDude... /nick JucatoZombie07:03
JucatoJust finished the transcripts about an hour ago. that was what kept me up :-D07:03
onTecHnoDr_Willis: what do you think when the alst update of samba was?07:03
draikI haven't finished cuz I was working on the winxp07:03
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Dr_WillisonTecHno,  no idea. after seeing all the issues today in #ubuntu - i am waiting 2 days or so befor i next update/upgrade. :P07:04
draikI still don't understand why she was an admin and cannot have access to her own ~/Desktop07:04
Jucatodraik: http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/3107:04
draikno other admins have access to it either07:04
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onTecHnoDr_Willis: it's something with X isn't it?07:04
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Jucatodraik: btw, I think it's safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core IF the version you're upgrading to ends in 10.407:05
synapticsDr_Willis: which directory in wine should i delete?07:05
Dr_WillisonTecHno,  yea. :) #ubuntu is flooded with people asking about it.07:05
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.07:05
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"07:05
Dr_Willissynaptics,  it has a 'program files' directory in there somewhere.07:05
Dr_Willissynaptics,  or delete the whole thing. and it will get remade next ya run .wine07:05
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onTecHnoDr_Willis: well I knew it wouldn't be a good idea to update it now ;)07:05
synapticsis it /home/kubuntu/.kde/share/applnk/Wine07:05
danlhow incrediably bad of an idea is it to chmod u+s apt-get ?07:05
Dr_Willis~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files07:06
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Dr_Willisdanl,  why bother. :)07:06
trappistdanl: pretty incredibly bad07:06
danlso i don't have to sudo and type password ;-)07:06
trappistdanl: anybody could install (or maybe worse, uninstall) anything07:06
Jucatosuperbly incredibly totally absolutely bad07:06
Dr_Willisdanl,  Egads! the Humanity!07:06
trappistdanl: so make yourself a NOPASSWD sudoer07:06
synapticsok got it so i'll just delete the program files07:06
danldidn't know i could trappist07:06
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Jucatosynaptics: wine also has it's own "Remove Programs"07:07
trappistdanl: trappist@monk:~$ sudo grep trappist /etc/sudoers07:07
trappisttrappist ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL07:07
synapticsJucato: where can i find it?07:07
draikwill check on that now07:07
draikthx, Jucato07:07
Dr_Williswine spywaresetup.exe  :)07:07
Dr_Willissee what spyware puts where!07:07
draikVery clean transcript, too.07:08
draikDr_Willis, that's interesting... can spyware actually run on linux?07:08
Jucatosynaptics: in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows you  will find uninstall.exe07:08
Dr_WillisI have installed spyware with wine.. just to see what it puts where on my windows systems. :)07:08
Jucatodraik: spyware can run in Windows on VMWare..07:08
Dr_Willisand ran wrapper scripts that install 'wallpaper' and so forth   that include spyware - just to unwrap the stuff07:09
draikQuick question on that... who in their right mind would run windows???07:09
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Jucatodraik: hm....07:09
draikAnyone here having issues with Adept and 'apt-get update'?07:09
onTecHnodraik: everyone who hasn't the time to configure a sambaserver jsut to share a single file in a network07:09
draikHeaders stuck at 99%07:09
Dr_Willisdraik,  if you need a application.. and it only works under windows.. you dont have any options.07:10
Jucatodraik: check your sources.list07:10
synapticsthanks Jucato07:10
draikI suppose07:10
flattersrWhen i was running Ubuntu 5.10 yahoo messenger work07:10
flattersrincluding the sound and cam07:10
flattersrbut now07:10
flattersrwill not install07:10
Jucatoanyone else here having some connection problems with Yahoo in Kopete?07:11
flattersrcos im using 6.0607:11
draikI haven't used windoze for quite some time... well, except for the past 2-3 days working on a friend's desktop... and you can ask Jucato about the fun behind that07:11
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danlhow do you force apt-get to ignore a broken dependency?07:11
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flattersrjucato: are you able to access the chat rooms through Kopete07:11
Jucatoflattersr: haven't tried07:11
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JucatoI only use YM for one-on-one chats...07:12
flattersrjucato: i have and theres not functionality that allow the user to access the chat room07:12
draikcompiz-core, compiz-plugins.... are they safe?07:13
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Omegahi everyone in?07:14
draikin what?07:14
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whizz-help..! my kubuntu suddenly boots into text-mode..07:14
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JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"07:14
Omegaoh...well.It's my problem too...After updating the xorg-xserver07:15
synapticsok, why all of the sudden my kubuntu has a black screen?07:15
OmegaThanks Jucato!07:15
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draikJucato, 10.4 is ok, right?07:15
Jucatodraik: yeah07:16
JucatoI'm using that right now07:16
draikand away it goes07:16
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draikit didn't accept any of the updates07:16
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draikcompiz, compiz-core, compiz-plugins, xserver-xorg-core07:17
Omegaok...you confirm me? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1007:17
richardh_Hi...anyone know why wlan doesn't connect at startup when using a WEP key?07:17
draikeverything was upgradable07:17
draikthen it says that it would break07:17
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synapticshey quicktime 7.1 crashes when i try to instal it07:17
Jucatodraik: you've got compiz installed?07:17
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Jucatonothing. just asked :-D07:18
draikwith no reason?07:18
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ElectrolyteMost of my music is MP3 and I can't find a free MP3 codec for Xine :/07:18
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Jucatodraik: yep. with no reason07:18
DaSkreechElectrolyte: try libxine-extracodecs07:18
draikmmmmmmm... ok07:19
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:19
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: libxine-extracodecs07:19
ElectrolyteCan I find that via adept?07:19
draikhttp://www.beerorkid.com is giving me an error for the update07:19
OmegaJucato...what was the problem with x-server?07:19
ElectrolytePerhaps not.07:19
Jucatoa buggy update (1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3)07:20
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.07:20
Omegayou have to add multiverse repository Electrolyte07:20
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: yes, although you may need to modify your repos depending on what you have07:20
ElectrolyteHow do I do that/07:20
JucatoElectrolyte: yes you can. you just need the multiverse repositories07:20
JucatoElectrolyte: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:20
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synapticsok, im out people. gonna watch some dvds and go to sleep07:20
ElectrolyteThanks :)07:20
Jucatobye synaptics!07:20
synapticssee ya Jucato07:20
Jucatodon't sleep at work later07:20
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories07:20
Omegabye synaptic07:21
synapticsyeah. i'll have to drink black coffee later07:21
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Jucatosynaptics: don't drink it07:21
Jucatojust eat the powder!07:21
Jucatono sugar, no cream, no milk, no water07:21
crrjChocolate covered coffee beans are the way to go.07:22
Omegaso the problem with xserver was with beerorkid mirrors updating!07:22
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dhqhey all07:22
Omegaguaran...synaptic. It works07:22
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dhqmy prob : well i can burn a dvd-rw 4X cd with out any errors but when i put a dvdr cd i get iput output error07:23
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flattersrjucato: if you need to get on to the chat rooms in Yahoo you install gaim07:23
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Jucatoflattersr: I'll keep that in mind. thanks!07:24
OmegaThankyou Jucato for your advice! Tomorrow i will try to make a X resurrection!07:24
JucatoOmega: you could also check if the fixed package is already available07:24
Jucatothe 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.407:24
flattersrno probs i can now use the superglue to glue my hair back07:24
CVirusLOL .. I was wondering how didnt the broken update break my X !!07:24
draikI got the update07:24
draikno issue here07:24
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draikonly issue seems to be with the update07:25
flattersris that the sever update07:25
Omegawell, now here is 19.30....Nothing will keep me away from my dinner. Xserver too!07:25
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:25
flattersrserver i ment to say07:25
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ElectrolyteI added multiverse and fetched the updates but I still can't see libxine-extracodecs.07:25
DaSkreechElectrolyte: did you add multiverse to dapper-backports?07:26
flattersrAny other supprise i should be looking out for on Kubuntu07:26
OmegaNow i am writing at home...waiting for water (for spaghetti) to boil07:26
Jucatodepends on what you mean by "surprise"07:26
Jucatogrrr!! don't talk about food!!!07:26
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ElectrolyteAh, no worries - I got it.07:27
flattersrmmmm foood07:27
draikI still haven't had breakfast07:27
flattersrtoo late07:27
ElectrolyteThe image of that FAQ was misleading.07:27
draikdelicious, mouth-watering breakfast07:27
Jucatostaying up late = hungry07:27
dhqmy prob in k3b gnomebaker  well i can burn a dvd-rw 4X cd with out any errors but when i put a dvdr cd i get iput output error07:27
ElectrolyteIt was the first 2 lines I had to edit, not the ones after the comments.07:27
DaSkreechElectrolyte: :-)07:27
OmegaElectrolyte...you could intall Automatix07:27
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:28
ElectrolyteI think I have everything sorted now :)07:28
OmegaSorry Jucato. For your advice i should cook for you too.07:28
ElectrolyteAll I need is to fix the sound engine.07:28
Jucatohm... spaghetti...07:28
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OmegaGreetings from Italy07:29
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Omegato everybody :-)07:29
Jucatoehehe the birthplace of spaghetti...07:29
katjeHello from Canada Omega07:29
Omegahi katje!07:29
JucatoIt's 1:30 am here in the Philippines... @_@07:29
grisha_hi all07:30
ketsugiJucato: same here (Singapore)07:30
Omegaoh Jucato...of beautiful women too.07:30
OmegaKetsugi... I lllove your spaghetti07:30
Jucatogrr... food....07:30
JucatoIt's too late to sneak to the kitchen to get something to eat...07:31
Omegawhat hour is it?07:31
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DaSkreechJucato of the Beautiful Women. I guess there are worse titles to hold07:31
ElectrolyteSo much closer to forgetting WIndows for normal desktop stuff now \o/07:31
grisha_jucato: Depends where you live. It's only 19:33 here.07:31
katjeIt's 10:30am here07:31
ElectrolyteOnly thing I'll be using Windows for now is games and audio recording :D07:31
grisha_7:33pm :)07:31
ElectrolyteWhich I don't do often :e07:31
Electrolyte6:28PM here.07:32
Omegahey...you are saying that the earth is spheric! Ereticous YOU all!07:32
JucatoI used to keep Windows around for online games. But I've had my hands full with Linux to bother with them...07:32
grisha_Electrolyte: You live close. GMT.07:32
DaSkreechFlat Earth Society to the ends of the Earth!!!07:32
ElectrolyteYup :)07:32
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Jucatoit's 5:33pm UTC07:32
Omegaye DASkreech..07:33
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Jucatothe earth ain't flat!!07:33
Jucatoit's cylindrical...07:33
Omegammm people. It's 5 o'clock somewhere!07:33
grisha_Our timezone is called CET :) And there is a damn big storm here. :S07:33
OmegaJucato..you're a fine topograph07:33
OmegaI'm somethingh about too07:34
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JucatoCylindrical = explains why you can go around the world, but also explains how you can fall off the edge :-D07:34
ElectrolyteTime to remove all the Window's desktop images I have on DeviantArt and put up my Linux one :)07:35
Omegasometimes happens that i drink a red water..then after having drunk a lot i feel like i'm falling on the edge07:35
Jucatoyou can always keep them around Electrolyte07:35
ElectrolyteThey're not wallpaper before you ask ;P07:35
ElectrolyteIt's a screen shot OF the desktop :P07:35
katjeElectrolyte:  That was the first thing that I had done on DA as well07:35
erovsounds like youve been drinking green water07:36
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Omegasometimes erov07:36
ElectrolyteI'm not an artist jucato, I'm an ArtAppreciator :)07:36
ElectrolyteI'm finally glad I can use Linux.07:36
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Jucatored water.. green water...07:37
DaSkreechI don't knwo art but I know that I appreciate!07:37
ElectrolyteAnd thanks goes to everyone here :P07:37
katjefeels good doesn't?07:37
OmegaOne day i made a screenshot of the Desktop of a friend of mine. I put the screenshot as the desktop and moved away all icons. He went crazy in 30 sec07:37
Jucatook... has any of our dicussion for the past 5 minutes revolved around Kubuntu? ^_^07:37
Jucatoabout Kubuntu support, I mean...07:37
ElectrolyteLOL Omega!07:37
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erovit'll get to it in a round-about way,Jucato07:37
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OmegaI have Master I have a question about Kubuntu!07:38
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JucatoOmega: that was cruel... but totally hilarious!07:38
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OmegaMaster is you, Jucato!07:38
bekiilPlease, a guide to get ipw3945 working.07:38
DaSkreechOmega: I did that as well. It's dead funny07:38
Jucatolol! I ain't no Mastah! :-D07:39
OmegaIs Kubunu like Windows?07:39
JucatoI'll probably do that to my sister. Thanks for the tip!07:39
erovdid the xserver-org update earlier break Kubuntu as well?07:39
JucatoOmega: depends on what you mean  by "like"07:39
katjeOmega:  That's funny,  I want to do that do my co-workers now07:39
grisha_Omega: LSA causing symptoms like that! lol07:39
Jucatoerov: yep. all throughout the known Ubuntu universe07:39
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Jucatoeven MEPIS07:39
onTecHnoOmega: lol07:39
katjeErov:  I installed the update and haven't had a problem with it07:39
OmegaTouch Jucato. I moved from Windows to Linux for desperation07:39
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noownerdoes anyone know what filesystem is the initrd image in /boot ? need to mount it and remove vga16fb and put nvidiafb instead07:40
Omegakatje...that friend of mine has tried to beat me with an estinctor07:40
onTecHnoOmega: just hope that you don't play any games and don't make such things like sharing files in a network - then you'll be fine with kubuntu07:40
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JucatoKubuntu, or KDE for that matter, is like windows in the sense that it's color scheme is mostly blue, it has one panel at the bottom, it has a button  at the left-most side of that panel which launches your list of programs, etc...07:41
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erovI dread rebooting.. I already applied the "fix" though07:41
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OmegaonTech...i play Wesnoth and i share my files on my working network with my collegues without problems07:41
h3sp4wnonTecHno: just use scp for moving files around07:41
katjeOmega:  It's still funny.  My manager just told me the other day that he's quit.  May-be on his last day I'll try to do that to him as a good bye joke07:41
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linuxkid2Jucato: but that IS the end of the similarities really. Well, I suppose Konqueror could be compared to Explorer cause it's a file manager/web browser.07:42
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grisha_onTecHno: You can do both under Kubuntu. There are hundreds of games, I play America's army, for ex. And you can share everything you want ony any kind of net.07:42
onTecHnoh3sp4wn: scp? not smb?07:42
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ElectrolyteI should get UT2004 installed on Linux.07:42
Omegawell...and he could say to you after your joke:" me? Quit..it was a joke!"07:42
onTecHnogrisha_: well I had lots of problems sharing files with a Windows computer07:42
h3sp4wnonTecHno: scp is the ssh copy function - or you can use shfs that is pretty good as well (just mounts a filesystem over ssh)07:42
katjeYeah... that wouldn't be good07:42
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)07:43
linuxkid2Sharing with is one thing, but accessing shares is easy.07:43
Omegamy last message was for katje07:43
h3sp4wnonTecHno: No need for samba unless you need to interoperate with windows07:43
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onTecHnoh3sp4wn: well I have to07:43
OmegaWell if your boss will say that to you it will be a GOOOOD joke07:43
linuxkid2h3sp4wn: Isn't shfs called fish:/ in konqueror?07:43
grisha_onTecHno: I used samba for that. Luckily I have no more wore winc comp. in may flat (only two with UHU LInux/Kubuntu linux) but file sharing worked just well07:43
DaSkreechJucato: Nice ammendment! :)07:44
noownerso, about kubuntu... i need to know how to mount the initrd image and/or to select nvidiafb instead of vga16fb ; anyone? help!07:44
DaSkreechI have a problem :)07:44
onTecHnoh3sp4wn: and there is no good support for NTFS either, ntfsprogs doesn't work very well07:44
h3sp4wnlinuxkid2: I just use shfs.sourceforge.net - that kernel module07:44
OmegaOk. I have to go babies!07:44
bekiilLOL, i used Adept Manager to install sun-java5-bin.xxxx and it stops at 20% cuz i have to accept a license deal, but, where do i press og or types yes, LOL07:44
linuxkid2h3sp4wn: k07:44
grisha_noowner: why would you like to use nvidiafb?07:44
Omegaspaghetti are "al dente"07:45
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yaluI am trying to install aiglx on kubuntu, but I've run into a problem: the package compiz-vanilla-kde  cannot be found. I am following http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068 , mainly07:45
h3sp4wnonTecHno: I have no need for ntfs or windows - no point in using a unix like os if all you want to do is make it like windows (may as well just use windows)07:45
noownergrisha_: because i've this allegro program(or examples) and vga16fb doesn't seem to work with them, no available resolution or smth07:45
h3sp4wnyalu: If you want aiglx its already in edgy07:45
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yalu*must resist temptation to install bleeding edge distro versions*07:46
linuxkid2Is there a way that I can get konqueror to mount SMB shares with smbfs?07:46
gaspock5I heard that there was something wrong with this new xserver-xorg-core update. Should I cancel the update?07:46
noownergrisha_: oh and my board is nvidia, my X runs with nvidia module and sorts07:46
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.07:46
OmegaJucato...go and recompile your kernel!07:46
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Omegaat least 10 times07:46
onTecHnoh3sp4wn: it's just that my parents won't change to Linux unless all their hardware does work perfectly and they need files from an external device which is ntfs-formatted and usually connected to my computer... so lol :D07:46
gaspock5Thanks Jucato07:46
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about captive-ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
onTecHnoOmega: Jucato = Bot ?07:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:47
noowneronTecHno: semibot lol; scripts :)07:47
onTecHnook ;D07:47
Omegaubuntu10 or ubuntu10.4?07:47
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grisha_noowner: I C, but why don't you use the official nvidia driver insted of nvidiafb?07:47
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Ash-Foxthey're the same package07:48
JucatoOmega: 10.4 is the safe version, 10.3 is the broken one...07:48
OmegaAh, Ok.07:48
Ash-Foxubuntu10 and ubuntu10.4 contain the same binaries.07:48
OmegaThank you all!07:48
gorusanybody knows where i can get the newest libgphoto2 pkg ??07:48
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OmegaThe most reliable thingh in Linux is that there are people like you helping me ;-)07:49
onTecHnoAsh-Fox: what about readonly access only to ntfs ?07:49
noownergrisha_: i need to somehow have /dev/fb* to be able to use allegro(a graphics library) and if I disable splash i've no /dev/fb* devices; if i enable it i've only vga16fb and i could change that to nvidiafb if i could change it inside the initrd image from /boot07:49
katjehmm I updated my xserver this morning before I heard about it breaking ubuntu.  Nothing out of the ordanry happened.  Did my update just not work or something?07:49
Ash-FoxonTecHno, you can use captive NTFS to get around that?07:49
Omegaoh no katje...if you use kde the problem is not07:50
grisha_noowner: ok, I C.07:50
dabdinequestion: i have a compaq presario r3000 laptop, and i'm trying to get my external monitor working with dapper (nvidia 440 go video card).  The function key doesn't work, and none of the settings in the display system control panel do anything.   How can I get the external monitor working?07:50
linuxkid2I ran my update but haven't restarted X yet so I'm still running the old one at the moment.07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
Jucatolinuxkid2: if you upgraded it you won't be able to start X after you restart07:50
Jucatounless you upgraded to the fixed package07:50
linuxkid2Which versio is that?07:51
gaspock5How can I dongrade my version of xine that amarok is depending on?07:51
katjeyou need to restart for the update?  I wonder if I should wait for the new update before I do07:51
onTecHnoAsh-Fox: does it work as secure as ntfsprogs?07:51
Jucatobroken version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3  fixed version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.407:51
linuxkid2Mine's ok.07:51
Jucatothat's kool then07:51
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gaspock5Jucato: how can i tell apt-get to get a version of libxine1 older than 1.1.1?07:52
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Jucatoranunculoid: err.. I don't know.. sorry07:53
noownerkatje: the new update(X that works) is already on some of the servers, at least the 'ro'(Romania) mirrors07:53
onTecHnoAsh-Fox: does it work as secure as ntfsprogs?07:53
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ranunculoidHow can I get information on a package?07:54
katjenoowner:  Do you think it may be on the 'ca'(Canada) mirrors?  I had updated mine almore 3 hours ago07:54
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Jucatoranunculoid: you can either view it in Adept or in Konqueror by typing in "apt:07:54
Jucatoranunculoid: that was apt:/07:54
Ash-FoxonTecHno, I don't know what you mean by 'secure'.07:55
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grisha_compositing looks great! Check this out:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/41454821%40N00/222147685/07:55
grothesknoowner: What ist die version# of the fixed xserver?07:55
Ash-FoxonTecHno, captive ntfs uses windows's own NTFS drivers for handling NTFS.07:55
grisha_I've just made the shot07:55
onTecHnoAsh-Fox: so captive has no negative aspects? speed ok, too?07:56
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bekiildamn, i will go back to Suse! thats for sure. all just works07:56
Ash-FoxonTecHno, reiserfs is faster in my expirence than NTFS.07:56
larson9999grisha_: that's what all the hoopla is about?  i think i'll pass for now.07:56
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onTecHnoAsh-Fox: well if it's so could you just tell me where to get startet so I can install it under Kubuntu? it isn't listed in the apt-tree07:57
fdovinggrothesk: xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.407:57
grotheskbekiil: I just dropped Suse because nothing worked there for me *g*07:57
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.07:57
Psychobudgieoh chuffin marvellous, archive.ubuntu.com is timing out07:59
noownergrothesk: well on kubuntu 6.06 , mine it's xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_amd64.deb07:59
noownerkatje: i dno, if it's the one fdoving said xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 then it may be :) look for it08:00
grisha_larson9999: i think it looks great. All the fading, transparency, glass, and shadow effects are amazing. I haven't tried them for 10 month, or so. Than they had many bugs. Firefox didn't work either. By now, most of the bugs are fixed. At last.08:00
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ranunculoidxine version 1.1.1 has a *HUGE* bug, it cant play FLAC files. It's been over 5 weeks now and Ubuntu still haven't updated their repositories to the new xine and it seems to be nigh impossible to downgrade, It's really annoying me. Can sombody please help me?08:00
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grisha_ranunculoid: use xmms08:01
Jucatoranunculoid: I'm not absolutely sure, but I think a patch was going around for xine08:01
grisha_sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-skins xmms-flac08:01
Jucatoranunculoid: you could check ubuntuforum.org and kubuntuforums.net for some info08:01
katjenoowner:  where would I go to look for it?08:01
ranunculoidgrisha_: and can I use that engine through Amarok?08:01
Ash-FoxonTecHno, I'd start with reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS08:01
larson9999grisha_: perhaps it's just me but i don't like "All the fading, transparency, glass, and shadow effects."  i prefer to not to be able to see through documents and apps.  then again i turn off the bouncing ball and animated crap in kde.08:02
grisha_ranunculoid: i dont't know. I dont use amarok08:02
ranunculoidJucato: I was on Kubuntu forums but they couldn't help me :(08:02
ranunculoidThey just said it was a known bug08:02
Jucatoranunculoid: how about ubuntuforums.org? I think there's a patch going around...08:02
ranunculoidOk I'll give ubuntuforums.org a shot08:03
grisha_larson9999: i hope u feel the main point. It's freedom. If you want them you can have them. If you don't....08:03
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larson9999grisha_: sure.  the best of anything is the one you like.08:04
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noownerkatje: i guess u do a sudo apt-get update (to get all the lists updated) and then u do  apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core|grep Version08:04
iukijoin #pt.wikipedia08:04
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katjenoowner:  thanks08:05
Jucatokatje: or, you can use Adept Updater (adept_updater) and Fetch Updates, then check which version will it be upgraded to08:05
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