[12:09] <talios> mmm, even after using that older xserver deb I get the problem.
[12:10] <talios> "xauth: error in locking authority file" hrm
[12:11] <fritsch> talios: when you login?
[12:11] <fritsch> talios: just reboot ;-)
[12:12] <texas319> i have an external usb HDD I connected to my laptop but I cannot copy any thing to it. I will not allow me to chang permisions
[12:12] <texas319> anyoen have any ideas
[12:13] <talios> no joy
[12:13] <fritsch> talios: you just cannot login?
[12:13] <fritsch> talios: or your xserver does not come up?
[12:14] <fritsch> talios: plese provide me a log
[12:14] <flo> #ubuntu
[12:15] <talios> fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21354 - I may have enabled framebuffer when I did my reconfigure...  I see that error in the log
[12:15] <skreech> I have a framebuffer error as well
[12:15] <fritsch> talios: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core
[12:16] <talios> fix0red - I had an older xorg.conf in /etc that worked.
[12:16] <fritsch> talios: what does it say?
[12:16] <pielgrzym> fritsch: once again - thanks for help :) bye :)
[12:16] <fritsch> pielgrzym: no prob!
[12:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: just don`t upgrade now
[12:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: *G* wait till tomorrow
[12:17] <talios> fritsch: that says 10.1 installed.  all working now with the older xorg.conf I found from this morning (thank god for automatic backup files!)
[12:17] <pielgrzym> fritsch: ok ;) what kind of upgrade do u mean?
[12:17] <fritsch> talios: hehe, cool
[12:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: xserver-xorg-core
[12:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: broken, don`t update
[12:17] <fritsch> pielgrzym: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:18] <pielgrzym> fritsch: thanks for the info :)
[12:18] <pielgrzym> fritsch: bye :)
[12:19] <talios> mmm, must take that deb home as I suspect my home box will be borked as well.
[12:19] <fritsch> pielgrzym: bye! have fun
[12:20] <cherokeegirl> buy e is alot to compizther
[12:21] <fritsch> n8 all
[12:21] <TubaSoldier> WARNING! WARNING! - Do not get the xorg update that just became available. your system will be screwed!
[12:21] <fritsch> TubaSoldier: old *G* https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:21] <fritsch> TubaSoldier: Fix is downgrading
[12:21] <fritsch> seems to be fun tonight
[12:22] <Hawkwind> TubaSoldier: We've only been discussing that in this channel for about an hour now
[12:22] <looktj> what is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?
[12:22] <TubaSoldier> oh. sorry. i guess. i'm a little slow.
[12:23] <fritsch> Hawkwind: coud you change the channel topic?
[12:23] <Hawkwind> fritsch: I'm not an op
[12:23] <fritsch> Hawkwind: that the coming user "floods" get a direct link to fix?
[12:24] <looktj> we need an op lol
[12:25] <cherokeegirl> gee there is alot to compiz
[12:25] <looktj> what is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?
[12:25] <mkpaa> this xorg problem is pretty bad pr for the ubuntu-team
[12:25] <looktj> mkpaa: i hope they fix the problem soon
[12:25] <fritsch> they will do
[12:25] <fritsch> just wait 1 hour, there is an updated package ...
[12:26] <looktj> ok im on gmone right now
[12:26] <fritsch> looktj: gnome is also affected
[12:26] <fritsch> looktj: this is an x bug ... or problem
[12:26] <looktj> i know, but what is that one site that gives me commands for multimedia, java?
[12:27] <looktj> installing
[12:27] <justin_> Where does KDE keep its TRASH folder, so I can delete its contents manually from Term?
[12:27] <looktj> is version 1:1:0.2-0
[12:28] <looktj> the bug
[12:28] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> anyone can help me with wireless ?
[12:28] <looktj> yea
[12:28] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> just installed kubuntu but i cant get it to work
[12:28] <looktj> iwconfig
[12:28] <Hawkwind> !wireless > [TSC] ChiFLiiiii
[12:28] <looktj> that is the command
[12:29] <asimon> justin_: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[12:29] <looktj> for checking wireless extension
[12:29] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> i tried with the assistent and in prefernces
[12:29] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> but i always get connection failed
[12:29] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> :S
[12:29] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> tried with wep and without with dhcp and without
[12:29] <justin_> asimon: Thanks
[12:29] <looktj> do you have wep
[12:30] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> yep
[12:30] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> 128 bits
[12:30] <looktj> might be a dhcp problem
[12:30] <justin_> ls
[12:30] <justin_> cd /
[12:30] <justin_> ls
[12:30] <justin_> cd /
[12:30] <mae> WARRRRRRRRRRRRr
[12:30] <mae> waht is it good for
[12:30] <mae> absolutely nothing
[12:30] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> maybe but i tried to set up the ip static and i have the same problem
[12:30] <looktj> !flood > justin
[12:31] <sbarg> /exit
[12:31] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> well the assistent said faster than with dhcp that was a error in the connection
[12:31] <mae> hehe
[12:31] <mae> lol
[12:32] <looktj> i had this problem, had to set router back to default settings
[12:32] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> :S
[12:32] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> reset router
[12:32] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> why?
[12:32] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> is working on windows /mac
[12:33] <looktj> no, i mean like peformance settings should be on default
[12:34] <looktj> can someone help him out if i cant get his wireless working
[12:36] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> hehe
[12:36] <[TSC] ChiFLiiiii> i read smt about ndiswrapper or smt like that
[12:38] <looktj> hmm
[12:45] <TubaSoldier> xorg all fixed now. sorry about the overreaction
[12:48] <ivan`> does ubuntu need a swap and boot partition?
[12:48] <aliasfred> ivan, you may but not required
[12:49] <MitchM> in other words; yes.
[12:49] <MitchM> do it :-)
[12:49] <ivan`> i'll just do swap in case that makes it faster
[12:49] <MitchM> it wont make it faster; it will however prevent crashes if you ever run out of RAM
[12:49] <ivan`> ok thanks
[12:49] <aliasfred> ivan, to run out of memory is not pretty :) but if you use only light apps and have a lot of ram you can do without
[12:50] <MrBallZ> Hi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup Kubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...
[12:50] <aliasfred> not pretty = the kernel starts killing apps that consume too much ram
[12:52] <ivan`> the ascii-ish ubuntu partitioner is the best i've ever seen
[12:56] <looktj> what is the url to install commands?
[12:58] <looktj> ?????????
[12:59] <ivan`> urls don't install commands
[12:59] <ivan`> they locate resources
[12:59] <aliasfred> !apt
[12:59] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:00] <aliasfred> looktj: the above url :)
[01:01] <ivan`> what's the best way to do filesystem encryption?
[01:01] <ivan`> EncFS+Loop-AES?
[01:02] <aliasfred> not loop aes
[01:02] <aliasfred> it is flawed, i found some in the past and the author doesnt want to fix them :)
[01:02] <ivan`> i'll probably just make a Truecrypt volume and symlink it to a few places
[01:02] <aliasfred> i dont remember the name but there is one using lufs
[01:04] <aliasfred> truecrypt is window only, no ?
[01:04] <ivan`> nope, linux too
[01:04] <aliasfred> ah ok, cool :)
[01:05] <ivan`> did kubuntu automatically guess which filesystem I want to install to?
[01:07] <ugly_> whats the best player for playing xvid or divx movies?
[01:07] <MrBallZ> mplayer
[01:08] <ugly_> is not in apt cache when i search for it
[01:08] <ugly_> is there an apt-get.org mirror for unbuntu?
[01:10] <MrBallZ> you need repositories
[01:10] <actinic> !mplayer
[01:10] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[01:10] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:10] <MrBallZ> get the mallirat one
[01:11] <ugly_> ahh... okies
[01:12] <ugly_> they have debs for it,  but ubuntu has its own package system right, does not use normal deb files
[01:12] <ivan`> linux-powerpc or linux-image-2.6.15-26-powerpc?
[01:33] <intelikey> odd my whois doesn't seem to be working.   first time i tested it on this system.
[01:33] <intelikey> everything returns the same info.
[01:33] <intelikey> inetnum:      0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255
[01:33] <intelikey> netname:      IANA-BLK
[01:35] <intelikey> ah i found it.   hehhe picking up an old transiant...   that's what i get for using stale ~  i guess.
[01:39] <MrBallZ> get the mallirat one
[01:39] <MrBallZ> Hi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup Kubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...
[01:43] <looktj> how do i install jdk
[01:43] <looktj> !jdk
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <looktj> !java
[01:43] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:44] <intelikey> this jdk ?   sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
[01:44] <intelikey> with apt
[01:46] <looktj> latest version
[01:47] <intelikey> yeah you have to have the latest.  heck that's what 3months old now....
[01:48] <intelikey> looktj get the source from the cvs and build it.
[01:48] <beermunk> hello
[01:48] <looktj> build what?
[01:50] <ugly_> MrBallZ: just download the deb file from his website for mplayer?
[01:50] <beermunk> anyone have any experience with pptpconfig?  I've got a couple questions
[01:52] <beermunk> first - when using pptp does it include MSCHAP v2?
[01:53] <looktj> sorry
[01:53] <looktj> i dont
[01:54] <beermunk> dang, thanks though looktj
[01:56] <JohnFlux_> RUN!
[01:57] <actinic> ubuntu/kubuntu podcasts if anyone's interested: http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/
[01:58] <rodrigo_> hi, I need some help compiling amarok 1.4.2-beta1 on kubuntu dapper
[01:59] <ugly_> Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h
[01:59] <ugly_> i get that when trying to compile mplayer
[01:59] <looktj> i need to install latest jdk
[02:00] <Ademan> I know this could be considered stupid or futile, but I'd like to make this petition, and i'd like people to review it before I post the draft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21350
[02:00] <rodrigo_> it says "can't find X includes"... where are the X includes on kubuntu, or what's the package name?
[02:02] <intelikey> xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries   maybe
[02:03] <ivan`> kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root  FS on unknown-block (0, 0)
[02:03] <ivan`> i made my / formatted XFS and used yaboot
[02:03] <ivan`> with linux-image-2.6.15-26-powerpc... any ideas?
[02:04] <rodrigo_> intelikey: thanks, i think that's it... by the way, do u know where these includes are placed? maybe /usr/includes/xorg?
[02:04] <ugly_> any idea's what i need to install to fix my error messsage?
[02:05] <intelikey> rodrigo_ i'd say that's a likely place.
[02:07] <mmorris> hello?
[02:07] <intelikey> ivan` block device 0, 0  doesn't exist here....   where is your root fs located ?
[02:07] <ivan`> hda3
[02:07] <LeeJunFan> ever since kde 3.5.3 I've kontact/kmail has been erasing some e-mails. Basically the header is still there, but the message is gone. This is IMAP I'm using - anyone else see this behavior?
[02:09] <intelikey> ivan` that would be block device 3, 3     try adding  root=/dev/hda3   to the boot command
[02:09] <ivan`> thanks
[02:10] <ivan`> i used the expert installer, it might be borked then
[02:10] <ivan`> or i should have known better
[02:11] <intelikey> expert is for experts
[02:11] <intelikey> exspert=drip
[02:12] <intelikey> :)
[02:16] <MrBallZ> ugly_: I would sugest , add the mallirat repository to your apt sources.list file and then do the apt-get from there ...
[02:16] <ivan`> the yaboot.conf generated by the installer looks perfect anyway
[02:17] <dima_> hi, everyone. Would like to ask a stupid question. Why ubuntu does not include MP3 support into their distro
[02:17] <dima_> ??
[02:18] <intelikey> ivan` also check the initramfs.img   make sure it's not an empty file.
[02:18] <ivan`> will do
[02:18] <actinic> !restrictedformats
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <intelikey> dima_ leagle issues.  mp3 is not free.
[02:20] <actinic> see the 1st link
[02:20] <intelikey> same reason linux distros don't include windows.   it's not free.
[02:21] <dima_> I'll try to refrase that a bit. The legal issues apply only on US territory. So, what makes Ubuntu a US distribution?
[02:21] <ivan`> oh XFS only works in edgy
[02:21] <dima_> Why can't they register and host their stuff in another place
[02:22] <actinic> the legal issues *don't* apply strictly to US.
[02:22] <actinic> Germany has very strict laws for instance
[02:23] <intelikey> dima_ they do if you read the links posted.
[02:23] <intelikey> and actinic is right that's not a U.S. only thing.
[02:24] <intelikey> i started to call ya on that, but figured i'd be among the thousands.
[02:27] <ivan`> is there anything to edit text files except vi in the recovery console?
[02:28] <ivan`> nano/pico require a real terminal
[02:28] <intelikey> ivan` nano
[02:28] <ivan`> i've faked TERM and it was badly broken
[02:29] <ivan`> requires bterm
[02:29] <intelikey> recovery console ?     single user mode ?
[02:30] <intelikey> nano works in single user mode,
[02:30] <ivan`> it's probably something else I screwed up in expert mode
[02:30] <ivan`> maybe setting it to utf-8
[02:32] <ivan`> and apt-get isn't connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com even though wget is
[02:32] <intelikey> try  . /etc/environment       it might help.
[02:34] <c0rrupt> back bz0b
[02:34] <c0rrupt> my computer froze solid cause of my gay ass firewall..
[02:34] <c0rrupt> so i went for a swim
[02:35] <ivan`> i think i'll just do a friendly install since i'm in about 4 levels of brokenness
[02:35] <c0rrupt> flame why do u need msf for that
[02:35] <c0rrupt> that exploit is leet yo
[02:36] <intelikey> ivan` some times it's easier/faster to reload than fix.  some times it's not.
[02:37] <intelikey> some times my lag goes too one minute.  sometimes 1 second.....   ;/
[02:37] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  When I put a DVD+RW disc into my drive, it is read, but the only way I can access the directory it is mounted to I need to view it under Super User.  Is there any way I can make it read under a normal user?
[02:38] <c0rrupt> chmod -R +r dir
[02:38] <intelikey> fix the fstab
[02:40] <Ertain> intelikey: Okay, how do I go about doing that?
[02:40] <c0rrupt> do it the ghetto way
[02:40] <c0rrupt> easier ;x
[02:40] <c0rrupt> chmod -R +r /media/dvddir
[02:41] <Ertain> But how will I know it will do that each time I put in the disc?
[02:41] <c0rrupt> it wont..
[02:41] <c0rrupt> if you want a real solution
[02:41] <c0rrupt> edit fstab
[02:42] <c0rrupt> !fstab
[02:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:42] <c0rrupt> i would suggest reading that
[02:42] <Ertain> Do you guys know about fstab?  I have set it up, but I think I got something wrong with it.
[02:42] <Ertain> Can do.
[02:42] <intelikey> Ertain the line that describes the device add  defaults,user,users
[02:43] <Ertain> Can do.
[02:45] <charles1952> Is there anyone available that could lend me a hand? I can't get Adept or apt-get to run at all. I closed down adept because it stalled for 40 minutes during a download, now I can't bring up the program. Help!!! if anyone knows a fix
[02:46] <Ademan>  I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21359
[02:46] <intelikey> charles1952 remove the lock file
[02:46] <charles1952> intelikey: Okay...where do I find it...what is it's name?
[02:46] <Goop2> hey I was just wondering what the difference between Linux and Linux RPM was
[02:47] <intelikey> charles1952 run sudo apt-get install -f   and  read carefully the error report.
[02:47] <intelikey> charles1952 it's name is     'lock'
[02:48] <Ademan> Goop2: RPM is redhat package manager I believe, which refers to red hat, which is a distribution of linux (see: a type of linux)
[02:48] <charles1952> intelikey: Okay I'll do that and try to fix it...if I have problems I come back and report what I did. Thnx
[02:48] <intelikey> aka distro
[02:49] <Goop2> Ademan: so would that mean Debian is more common?
[02:49] <intelikey> Goop2 no
[02:49] <D4rkly> how do i probe my usb devices do see if a specific device exists ?
[02:49] <Ademan> not by any means, but Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Nubuntu, edubuntu are all debian based
[02:49] <Ademan> which use the debian package manager
[02:50] <Goop2> I mean Deb based and Red Hat based
[02:50] <intelikey> D4rkly look in /proc/something....  or use    lsusb
[02:50] <Ademan> I couldn't tell you which is more popular
[02:50] <Ademan> but it doesn't really matter
[02:50] <Ademan> they're both package managers
[02:51] <Ademan> they both accomplish the same thing to the best of my knowledge
[02:51] <Ademan> pick a linux distro based on what it offers, not on its package manager
[02:51] <intelikey> Goop2 rpm based no longer means redhat based  i just means they use the redhat package manager.
[02:51] <Goop2> I was just wondering why Red hat installations are "Linux RPM" and Debian is just "Linux"
[02:52] <Ademan> Goop2: i'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about, who or what reffers to them in that way?
[02:52] <Goop2> Java
[02:53] <draik> Jucato!!!
[02:53] <draik> Jucato!!!
[02:53] <intelikey> debian is not 'just linux' btw.   it's  gnu-linux    not that it matters.
[02:53] <Ademan> huh... well i don't think it really matters, and if it does, java sucks more than i thought...
[02:53] <Goop2> hehe
[02:53] <Jucato> just great! this is not a good way to start the morning...
[02:54] <charles1952> intelikey: Removed the "lock" file from /var/lib/dpkg but adept still crashes when loading. Any further suggestion?
[02:54] <draik> Jucato, what happened?
[02:54] <charles1952> intelikey: or should I re-boot and then try?
[02:54] <intelikey> charles1952 does    sudo apt-get install -f     finish without error ?
[02:55] <charles1952> I'll try again
[02:55] <charles1952> BRB
[02:56] <Jucato> anyone here had problems with the latest xserver-xorg-core update a while ago?
[02:56] <charles1952> intelikey: I get "Can't connect to X server" error msg.
[02:56] <intelikey> haven't tried it yet.   will check Jucato
[02:56] <draik> Should I get the update xserver-xorg-core?
[02:56] <Jucato> draik: NO
[02:56] <draik> 10-4
[02:57] <draik> rejected
[02:57] <Jucato> what 10-4?
[02:57] <intelikey> charles1952 apt-get shouldn't be trying to connect to the X server   ?????   what did you type ?
[02:57] <charles1952> intelikey:  sudo apt-get install -f
[02:58] <intelikey> and you get "Can't connect to X server"  ???
[02:58] <charles1952> intelikey: Yup!
[02:58] <intelikey> Jucato yep it hosed X here.   lol
[02:59] <intelikey> charles1952 that's not supposed to happen.
[02:59] <intelikey> can't happen.
[02:59] <Jucato> yehey!
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello.
[02:59] <Jucato> imagine that?! an official upgrade that hoses your system
[02:59] <charles1952> intelikey: kdesu cannot connect to the X-Server is the exact quote
[03:00] <intelikey> Jucato raise living hell about it.  in #ubuntu  too
[03:00] <Jucato> oh, so even Ubuntu is affected
[03:00] <intelikey> Jucato it's X  not kde.   all *buntu  is affected.
[03:01] <Jucato> yeah... I was just thinking that maybe Ubuntu got away with it..
[03:01] <intelikey> charles1952 where are you typing the command ?
[03:01] <Jucato> now, how the hell will we use pastebin?
[03:02] <charles1952> intelikey: In Konsole...I just tried sudo instead of kdesu and I got: "adept: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting."
[03:02] <intelikey> charles1952 you are in a terminal  "konsole"   ok.    and typing    sudo apt-get install -f        nothing to do with kdesu   right.
[03:04] <charles1952> Intelikey: I tried both...and yes I'm in terminal Konsole...and both kdesu and sudo give error...sudo states ity can't connect to X Server and kdesu says the error quote above,
[03:04] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Got a second for a PM  ??
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> charles1952: what are you trying to do?
[03:04] <Agios> charles1952: are you doing this from a $ prompt or a # prompt?
[03:05] <charles1952> CheeseBurgerMan: Run adept or apt-get.... Agios: I'm at a # prompt.
[03:05] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a ubuntumachine if the share is sbm://192.168.1.102/mp3
[03:05] <Agios> ok
[03:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> charles1952: then just run 'adept'
[03:05] <Jucato> Hawkwind: sure
[03:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> charles1952: That means that you're running as root.
[03:05] <Agios> you cannot do kdesu from a # prompt. You must be at a $ prompt.
[03:06] <charles1952> Okay...I'll give it a run. BRB
[03:06] <intelikey> but sudo runs for root guys.
[03:06] <draik> anyone here using Yakuake?
[03:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> draik: Yes.
[03:07] <Jucato> draik: here here
[03:07] <draik> How do you close a shell window to open a new one?
[03:07] <draik> other than the minus (-) button on the left
[03:07] <draik> I mean with command
[03:07] <draik> if any
[03:07] <Jucato> draik: Ctrl+D ?
[03:07] <draik> woohoo
[03:07] <draik> thanks Jucato
[03:07] <Jucato> draik: or 'logout' I think
[03:08] <draik> CTRL + D works beautifully
[03:08] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:09] <draik> BTW, yakuake kicks BUTTer
[03:09] <charles1952> Okay folks ( CheeseBurgerMan Intelikey Agios ): It's aworkin' now...thank you for all the help. Also, one other quick question....I can connect to http: no problema...but when I run adept it seems to crash or stall a lot. I presume its based on FTP protocols....anya thing you all could suggest that I look at?
[03:09] <Jucato> thank the penguin god for Irssi!!!
[03:09] <Jucato> and for the command line!!
[03:09] <draik> Jucato, I bet you're happy with the classes
[03:09] <charles1952> (Hope I'm not being greedy with all the support here!)
[03:10] <Agios> charles1952: I suggest using apt-get from the command line :)
[03:10] <Jucato> draik: yes! very
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> charles1952: I doubt it's ftp, since all the official repos are http:
[03:10] <draik> Speaking of which, I'm finishing up the transcripts from this past class
[03:10] <draik> The first one is up and running, but it still has errors
[03:10] <draik> gotta fix them
[03:10] <Jucato> draik: I'll get working on the 2nd CLI class. Thank goodness for nano
[03:10] <charles1952> Okay...I'll just work from command line for awhile and see if that helps...thanks folks. The beer is on NightHawk
[03:10] <draik> I am already done with the 2nd class
[03:10] <draik> I'm combining both
[03:11] <Jucato> err... would anyone happen to know how I can enable "beeping" in irssi?
[03:11] <draik> I finished the 1st class in a matter of minutes
[03:11] <draik> the 2nd class was 3 HOURS LONG!!!
[03:11] <draik> and it only had 3 STUDENTS
[03:11] <Jucato> but I think the 2nd class was a bit better? getting off-topic...
[03:11] <charles1952> BYe all
[03:12] <draik> the 2nd class was good
[03:12] <intelikey> charles1952 apt-cache search <strings>    apt-cache show <package>     sudo apt-get install <package>       sudo apt-get remove <package>      it's that simple from the cli.
[03:12] <intelikey> too late.
[03:12] <draik> Jucato, back on topic, any luck with the package?
[03:12] <Jucato> wait...
[03:13] <draik> I did 'sudo apt-get update' and got the adept package manager on the bottom telling me I have updates....
[03:13] <draik> I'm ****SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO**** happy it's not a nagging thing like that other os **cough**winxp**cough**
[03:14] <intelikey> Jucato what are you getting from startx  ?
[03:14] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[03:14] <intelikey> no screens found
[03:14] <intelikey> that ^  ?
[03:14] <Jucato> yep
[03:14] <draik> Is there a fix?
[03:14] <Jucato> looks like I have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core
[03:14] <intelikey> i'm going back to the working version.
[03:15] <draik> how do you downgrade through CLI?
[03:15] <Agios> Jucato: welcome to the club. A lot of people are having trouble with the update.
[03:15] <intelikey> i'll use mc    you can dpkg -i filename
[03:15] <Jucato> download the dpkg... then dpkg -i
[03:16] <draik> that's to install, though... isn't it?
[03:16] <intelikey> Agios is an offical bug.
[03:17] <Jucato> no offense meant, but I wonder if they really really really tested it before releasing it...
[03:17] <intelikey> draik yes.  installing will over write the "bad" files.
[03:17] <draik> install it from where?
[03:17] <r0xz> anyone else boot problems with the new xserver package on dapper?
[03:18] <draik> r0xz, that's everyone's issue right now
[03:18] <draik> well, almost everyone
[03:18] <r0xz> thank god
[03:18] <intelikey> r0xz no boot problem  but x wont run.
[03:18] <Agios> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[03:18] <Agios> sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[03:18] <draik> what is wget?
[03:18] <UmInAsHoE> anyone around?
[03:18] <UmInAsHoE> downloading application for the CLI
[03:18] <Jucato> draik: CLI download manager
[03:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> draik: Command line download program.
[03:18] <looktj> i hate xp for this http://moparisthebest.com/no.html  it restart ur computer
[03:19] <moparisthebest> oops
[03:19] <moparisthebest> thats my site, rofl
[03:19] <UmInAsHoE> anyone updated to recent sever?
[03:19] <UmInAsHoE> xserver*
[03:19] <Jucato> UmInAsHoE: if you haven't... DON'T
[03:19] <UmInAsHoE> i did
[03:19] <moparisthebest> looktj, did it restart your computer?
[03:19] <UmInAsHoE> and i hate myself lol
[03:19] <UmInAsHoE> didnt realise with would cut support for my gfx
[03:20] <looktj> when i was on xp it did
[03:20] <UmInAsHoE> it would*
[03:20] <moparisthebest> oh yea, looktj it kills internet explorer :P
[03:20] <looktj> hi mopar i am taylor
[03:20] <UmInAsHoE> how do i roll back?
[03:20] <moparisthebest> and even older firefoxes
[03:20] <UmInAsHoE> i kind of need a working gui
[03:20] <UmInAsHoE> as much as i love the cli
[03:20] <Agios> UmInAsHoE:
[03:21] <Agios> scroll up and read :)
[03:21] <Agios> oh, you jsut missed it
[03:21] <Agios> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[03:21] <intelikey> ok we need to adjust the topic to contain the url for the "working" xorg-core package.    who's got ops ?
[03:21] <Agios> sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[03:21] <UmInAsHoE> ty
[03:21] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:21] <Hawkwind> That's an easier command for the fix
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> you don't need to --force-overwrite?
[03:21] <Jucato> yeah, shorter, less prone to typos....
[03:22] <intelikey> !ops
[03:22] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[03:22] <UmInAsHoE> thank you very much
[03:22] <nalioth> intelikey: ?
[03:22] <UmInAsHoE> brb see if it works :D
[03:22] <Jucato> cool! I love it when ubotu does that
[03:22] <UmInAsHoE> no more auto updates for me
[03:23] <intelikey> the last update of xserver-xorg-core is breaking X   and we need the topic to reflect that.
[03:23] <nalioth> intelikey: may i be of service?
[03:23] <Hawkwind> LeeJunFan: Just use that command I gave
[03:23] <intelikey> maybe add    sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10    to the topic  or something
[03:23] <nalioth> intelikey: this is default behavior upcoming. please /msg me
[03:24] <Hawkwind> Hah, that was slightly mean
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> no kidding.
[03:25] <nalioth> Hawkwind: calling !ops just to change the topic is not required. there are other less disruptive ways to get the /topic changed
[03:25] <soulrider> hey
[03:25] <Jucato> aaaaaah
[03:25] <Jucato> soo nice to see windows..
[03:25] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: and who would know that other than the ops?
[03:25] <Hawkwind> nalioth: I know.  However, the topic change in this case does happen to be very very very important
[03:26] <Jucato> oooh! nice box thingy with exclamation point in my system tray!!!
[03:26] <Jucato> wonder what will happen if I click it?
[03:26] <looktj> mopar do u have msn?
[03:26] <Hawkwind> Jucato: LOL.  Click it and see :P
[03:26] <ivan`> which mode uses the least power: powersave or conservative, on a powerbook g4
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: Pretty! :P
[03:26] <moparisthebest> I never use msn looktj
[03:26] <moparisthebest> <3 irc
[03:26] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:26] <Hawkwind> nalioth: Did intelikey PM you ?
[03:27] <looktj> oh ok
[03:27] <nalioth> Hawkwind: the channel is not set to have topic locking
[03:27] <nalioth> Hawkwind: making it even more of a "D'oh!"
[03:27] <agnustic> agnustic is actually considering installing kubuntu
[03:27] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: but doesn't ubotu automatically change it back if changed?
[03:28] <Hawkwind> nalioth: I realized that earlier.  I just wasn't sure how the ops felt about anyone changing the topic or I would have done it earlier
[03:28] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: no.
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> ah
[03:28] <nalioth> Hawkwind: go for it
[03:28] <Hawkwind> nalioth: Thanks.  I just didn't want to step on anyones toes if you know what I mean :)
[03:29] <looktj> mopar is irc working?
[03:29] <moparisthebest> yes
[03:29] <looktj> hmm
[03:29] <moparisthebest> what are you trying to connect to?
[03:29] <looktj> doesnt seem to log me into irc.moparisthebest.com
[03:29] <moparisthebest> try irc.codestream.org instead
[03:31] <looktj> thanks mopar
[03:31] <moparisthebest> np
[03:31] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Got a minute for a PM ?
[03:32] <soulrider> for you, allways ;) <3           just kidding :P
[03:32] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Heh, thanks
[03:36] <rodrigo__> what is kde-prefix
[03:54] <edgarin> Hi to all
[03:54] <Jucato> hi
[03:55] <edgarin> Hi jucato
[03:55] <edgarin> how are you?
[03:55] <Jucato> doing fine, considering what happened :-D
[03:56] <Jucato> NOTICE: Don't upgrade xserver-xorg-core yet!
[03:56] <ranunculoid> irish_wopr: If you're irish then how come you IP address begins with "66" :-/ ? Imposter!
[03:56] <Jucato> ?!?!?!
[03:59] <ivan`> can I slow down my fans on a powerbook g4 somehow? OS X spun them down faster, and I'm already running in powersave @ 667mhz
[04:01] <lou80> Hi, anyone know if it's possible to install kubuntu on a spare partition using apt?  Kind of like a netinstall with out involving a cd
[04:01] <obf213> anyone use scilab and can actually read the archaic font
[04:02] <lou80> something like "apt-get install kubuntu --target /dev/hda6"? :-)
[04:04] <looktj> Jucato i updated xorg by accident earlier
[04:04] <Jucato> were you able to fix it now?
[04:05] <looktj> idk
[04:05] <looktj> idk how
[04:05] <Jucato> looktj: what are you using right now?
[04:06] <Winbox1> having a problem. I just upgraded my machine and it upgraded xserver-xorg-core to 1:1.0.2 and now i can't log back in.. getting fatal server error. no screen found? how can i fix this
[04:06] <larson9999> exactly which package is all this display hoopla over?
[04:06] <Jucato> larson9999: xserver-xorg-core
[04:06] <Jucato> Winbox1: look at the last sentence of the topic
[04:07] <looktj> how can i check that
[04:07] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can alter the runtime path in vim?
[04:07] <looktj> what am i using
[04:07] <Jucato> looktj: hm... let's start from the beginning. tell me what you did?
[04:07] <axiom> In an attempt to restore double-click (settings had no effect) I moved my ~/.kde folder somewhere else http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406779#post1406779
[04:07] <larson9999> Jucato: so i have Installed version 1:1.0.2-ubuntu10.1
[04:08] <axiom> but now I have lost my e-mail (kmail)
[04:08] <axiom> I moved the folder back
[04:08] <axiom> I thought
[04:08] <axiom> but /home/axiom/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/cur is empty
[04:08] <axiom> is it lost forever?
[04:10] <unix_infidel> nevermind.
[04:10] <larson9999> LinuxNT?  is that the same thing as OS X?
[04:10] <looktj> Jucato: i installed KDE today
[04:17] <Winbox1> Jucato, I tired that fix, but now im getting ( No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'
[04:19] <Agios> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[04:19] <Agios>         No such file or directory.
[04:19] <Agios> like that?
[04:19] <SpAwN> !restricted
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i have Installed version 1:1.0.2-ubuntu10.1 and not :1.0.2-ubuntu10, will this cause me issues or is it just some people?  i rebooted after i upgraded earlier today and don't notice anything funny.  chromium runs just fine.
[04:20] <ivan`_> fan control on ppc... any ideas/links? (it's hard to google)
[04:21] <Winbox1> well i rebooted and now i can't log back in
[04:22] <Agios> larson9999: if you can get X up you are probably ok
[04:23] <larson9999> Agios: it's been running fine for several hours now.  is this an xorg with nvidia thing?  i happen to be an ati on this box
[04:23] <Agios> I don't think it's nvidia realted but I'm not sure.
[04:23] <Agios> Winbox1: did you update your system today?
[04:23] <Winbox1> yes
[04:24] <Winbox1> like 20 minutes ago
[04:24] <Agios> see the topic, bad xorg is in updates. You will need to restore the old one.
[04:24] <Agios> the command to do that is in the topic
[04:24] <Agios> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:24] <larson9999> hmmmm, people having trouble and i'm not one of them?  that feels good in a bad sort of way
[04:25] <Agios> dodged the bullet for once :)
[04:25] <Jucato> larson9999: did you do any upgrades today? was xserver-xorg-core upgraded?
[04:25] <Winbox1> I tried that, but then i got.  input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Failed to initalize core devices
[04:26] <Agios> you can pull the wacom entries out of xorg.conf
[04:26] <Agios> unless you have wacom devices of course, which is unlikely
[04:26] <Winbox1> what should i do about the kdb module?
[04:27] <Winbox1> No i don't
[04:27] <Agios> see if you have /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
[04:27] <larson9999> Jucato: i did upgrade today.  about a dozen or so packages and from memory of my quick scan, most seem to be related to x.  i almost didn't upgrade since i know an x upgrade can be painful if things don't go well.  but i did upgrade and rebooted.  the version i have istalled now is :1.0.2-ubuntu10.1.  but the reason i rebooted is about 10 minutes after i upgraded my screen was filled with verticle stripes.  but things have been run
[04:27] <larson9999> ning fine since i rebooted about a few hours ago
[04:28] <bimberi> larson9999: ...ubuntu10.1  is fine,  It's 10.3 that is the problem
[04:28] <Jucato> well, if that's the version that you're using, then xserver-xorg-core wasn't upgraded
[04:29] <larson9999> bimberi: aha!  well the topic stops at 10 so i didn't know if 10.1 was the bad on or not.
[04:30] <larson9999> Jucato: ok, i'll make sure i don't get that version
[04:30] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:30] <dseeb_> anyone else having trouble with the xserver-xorg-core update?
[04:30] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[04:30] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[04:30] <Winbox1> Agios it's not showing any kbd_drv.so = / how do i get it back?
[04:31] <Agios> let me see what package owns it, one sec
[04:32] <Winbox1> ok
[04:32] <Agios> apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[04:33] <Winbox1> Agios dude thank you so much.. I can log in now..
[04:33] <Agios> cool
[04:34] <Jucato> three cheersfor Agios!!!
[04:34] <Agios> always nice to have a keyboard :)
[04:34] <Winbox1> lol sure is
[04:35] <Winbox1> I thought i was screwed there for a bit. Thought i was going to lose all my futurama episodes  =)
[04:35] <Jucato> lol
[04:36] <Winbox1> I got all of them
[04:36] <Winbox1> and the chapelle shows
[04:36] <edgarin> some program for administration of cyber cafe?
[04:37] <larson9999> i go bragging and my system locks up again.  got to figure that out.  it's about twice a day now.
[04:38] <Agios> larson9999: memtest86 :)
[04:38] <larson9999> Agios: that's a good idea.  think i'll do that now.
[04:39] <draik> TRANSFORMERS MOVIE COMES OUT JULY, 4, 2007 WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:39] <Jucato> errr....
[04:39] <Jucato> [advertisement]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky
[04:39] <draik> Sorry, I have LOVED transformers since I was a kid
[04:39] <Jucato> darn! I thought I changed that?
[04:39] <Jucato> 2007... would I still be alive by then...
[04:39] <larson9999> Jucato: didn't you know?  transformers run on linux
[04:39] <Jucato> lol
[04:40] <larson9999> Jucato: i'm not sure of the distro or if they need support though
[04:40] <Jucato> hm... they don't have a character that transforms into a desktop PC (complete with a table) yet do they?
[04:41] <larson9999> i transformer theme  is there such a thing?
[04:41] <larson9999> ok, memtest here i come
[04:41] <Agios> yes, it's the windows logo morphing into a ubuntu logo :)
[04:41] <Jucato> lol
[04:42] <draik> Optimus prime is still a semi-truck, but now he's got flames
[04:42] <Jucato> hm... let me check this again...
[04:42] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[04:42] <draik> and they are changing the character's "body's"
[04:42] <draik> LOL
[04:42] <Jucato> ok.. better
[04:42] <Jucato> lol
[04:43] <draik> Jucato, can we support the usage of Kubuntu as bumper stickers on the autobots?!?!
[04:43] <Jucato> why not totally replace the Autobot logo with the Kubuntu logo?
[04:43] <draik> nah
[04:43] <draik> That's like changing tux on linux
[04:43] <Jucato> then watch them fight each other to the death... then try to recall what "ubuntu" means
[04:44] <draik> you can recognize them from far away
[04:44] <draik> LOL
[04:44] <erofee> hi all
[04:44] <draik> hi erofee
[04:44] <Jucato> hi
[04:44] <erofee> i am having an issue installing kubuntu
[04:44] <Ranma> Is there a way to set Kopete to use another sound card for Gtalk?
[04:45] <draik> what is your issue erofee?
[04:45] <draik> specifically
[04:45] <erofee> when i try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i get a broken package:  language-selector-qt
[04:45] <draik> what stage/part of the install?
[04:45] <erofee> i tried to install the package manually, but it is at the newest version
[04:46] <draik> I've never had that issue... you're making it up... next quesiton...
[04:46] <draik> just kidding, but I never had that issue thought
[04:46] <draik> *though
[04:46] <draik> latest kubuntu?
[04:46] <draik> Dapper Drake?
[04:46] <draik> 6.06?
[04:46] <erofee> yep, latest version.
[04:47] <erofee> after some more poking i found that that package depends on language-selector-common
[04:47] <looktj> erofee do aptitude not apt-get
[04:47] <erofee> apparently language-selector-qt needs language-selector-common 0.1.20 but i have 0.1.20.1 installed
[04:48] <erofee> i will try with aptitude
[04:48] <draik> I have it installed, but not a single issue
[04:48] <looktj> !aptitude
[04:48] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:48] <looktj> :-)
[04:48] <erofee> i have had it installed without a problem aswell, but this time i am getting the error
[04:49] <erofee> ok, aptitude seems to be getting further, thanks.
[04:50] <looktj> :-)
[04:50] <erofee> guess it's the simple solutions that work the best.
[04:51] <erofee> question, is Edgy the next release after Breezy?
[04:51] <Jucato> erofee: Dapper
[04:51] <looktj> edgy is next after dapper
[04:51] <erofee> sorry, that's what i meant
[04:51] <Jucato> Breezy (preivous) --> Dapper (current) --> Edgy (next)
[04:51] <erofee> has anyone played with Edgy?
[04:51] <looktj> oh then yes
[04:53] <digivore> hello
[04:53] <Jucato> hi
[04:53] <looktj> hi
[04:53] <Jucato> hello
[04:53] <digivore> how do i find my internal IP address in kubuntu
[04:53] <looktj> ifconfig
[04:53] <looktj> o nvm
[04:54] <looktj> um system settings
[04:54] <digivore> awesome, thanks
[04:54] <erofee> how do i mark a package for installation in aptitude
[04:55] <Jucato> erofee: sudo aptitude install <package_name>
[04:55] <actinic> +3.3V:     +3.34 V  (min =  +3.14 V, max =  +3.47 V)
[04:55] <actinic> +5V:       +5.13 V  (min =  +4.76 V, max =  +5.24 V)
[04:55] <actinic> +12V:     +11.49 V  (min = +10.82 V, max = +13.19 V)
[04:55] <digivore> yes  all of those ways  work..  thanks looktj
[04:55] <looktj> system settings>network settings>click administrator mode
[04:55] <actinic> oops, sorry guys
[04:55] <Agios> it's 24.85.244.47 :)
[04:55] <Jucato> err.. actinic???
[04:55] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:55] <erofee> yeah, but in aptitude, i thought you just selected the package and pressed "i" to mark it for installation.
[04:55] <actinic> slip of the 'ole fingers :)
[04:55] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:56] <looktj> digivore read i said
[04:56] <actinic> i'm playing with sensors
[04:56] <looktj> right after ur message
[04:56] <Jucato> erofee: ah you're talking about the Aptitude GUI?
[04:56] <erofee> yeah
[04:56] <erofee> sorry again
[04:56] <Jucato> I'm not really familiar with it... I just use the direct commands...
[04:56] <erofee> i am not that long into linux, so i am not that good with the terminology
[04:57] <Jucato> no problem
[04:57] <looktj> !aptitude > Jucato
[04:57] <Agios> IIRC there is a icon to the ledt of the package name, click on it and it expands. There is a install button there.
[04:57] <Jucato> looktj: I know aptitude. I just don't use its GUI. I always do "sudo aptitude install <package>"
[04:58] <Agios> that marks it for installation
[04:58] <erofee> does anyone use anything else apart from kate for HTML editing?
[04:58] <Jucato> Quanta?
[04:58] <erofee> anything else?  i have had issues with quanta.
[04:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> erofee: I don't really do much HTML editing, but I know that Quanta, Bluefish and NVU should work.
[04:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, nevermind about quanta. ;)
[04:58] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:59] <looktj> im gonna eat and end session because of updated time format
[04:59] <looktj> then Kyle Xy
[05:01] <spazz> argh! media never works in kubuntu
[05:01] <spazz> :(
[05:01] <Jucato> spazz: which media?
[05:01] <spazz> any...
[05:01] <spazz> mp3s, movies.
[05:01] <spazz> I tried installing codecs, but ... they didnt work
[05:01] <spazz> with the autmatix. probably broke it.
[05:02] <erofee> don't use automatix, it is evil
[05:02] <erofee> !mp3
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <spazz> ... too late now.
[05:02] <Jucato> spazz: did you see which codecs  were installed?
[05:02] <spazz> No.
[05:02] <spazz> How do I check?
[05:02] <spazz> What does automatix break?
[05:02] <actinic> spazz, u certain automatix is the culprit?
[05:03] <Jucato> spazz: check if the package "libxine-extracodecs" is installed
[05:03] <spazz> no
[05:03] <spazz> lol have no clue.
[05:03] <erofee> what media player do you use?
[05:03] <spazz> how do i check that?
[05:03] <spazz> any that will work. like vlc though.
[05:03] <actinic> lol, it's my fault, I broke your system spazz :)
[05:03] <spazz> damn you, lol
[05:03] <actinic> lol
[05:03] <spazz> fix it. :D
[05:03] <Jucato> spazz: in Adept (K Menu > System)
[05:03] <spazz> going there.. now.
[05:03] <erofee> a tip for once you get it all working, use amarok
[05:04] <spazz> i try playing mp3s in amarok, but.. it goes through the song without any sound in like a few seconds and then says playlist finished.
[05:04] <Jucato> spazz: that's because the proper codecs weren't installed
[05:04] <actinic> try xmms spazz
[05:04] <Jucato> they're going to fix that behaviour soon, though
[05:04] <spazz> adept wont open.
[05:05] <spazz> it asks for passwor..............there it goes.
[05:05] <spazz> after the second time.
[05:05] <spazz> libxine wasnt installed
[05:05] <spazz> the extra codecs...
[05:05] <spazz> installing now.
[05:06] <Ranma> Is there a way to set Kopete to use another sound card for Gtalk?
[05:06] <erofee> use aptitude.
[05:07] <spazz> ... i dont have that.
[05:07] <spazz> apt-get aptitude ?
[05:07] <Jucato> aptitude is already installed by default
[05:07] <spazz> where is it?
[05:08] <Jucato> aptitude? it's a command line program. it won't be in K Menu
[05:08] <spazz> oh ok
[05:08] <erofee> just use sudo aptitude
[05:08] <spazz> loaded..
[05:08] <spazz> mp3s still not working .. installed the extra codecs.
[05:08] <Jucato> btw, you can use the mouse in Aptitude as long as it's running in Konsole (or any other terminal)
[05:09] <erofee> i used aptitude to install kubuntu with my problem, i had to downgrade the problem packages to let it install.
[05:09] <Jucato> spazz: hm. try restarting amarok?
[05:09] <spazz> just did
[05:09] <actinic> spazz turn on your speakers for cryin out loud! :)
[05:09] <spazz> they are lol
[05:09] <spazz> system sounds worek
[05:10] <spazz> hey wtf
[05:10] <spazz> now its working lmfao.
[05:10] <spazz> i tried another song.
[05:10] <actinic> ah ha!  ya turned on the speakers!
[05:10] <actinic> i knew it!
[05:10] <spazz> they were on lol
[05:10] <actinic> yeah sure they were
[05:10] <actinic> :)
[05:10] <spazz> i swear :P lol
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> spazz: Try playing the other song again.
[05:11] <actinic> but only if it's a good song
[05:11] <spazz> hooray it works.
[05:11] <erofee> sometimes the simplest solutions solve the biggest problems....if your computer won't turn on, check the power point......
[05:11] <spazz> somtimes this damn thing is just slow
[05:11] <spazz> thing my hdd is dying ... for real.
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Get a new one and backup ASAP.
[05:12] <spazz> I want to install my wacom tablet... hmm.
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> If you couldn't guess. ;)
[05:12] <spazz> have all important files on external hdd
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, good. :)
[05:12] <spazz> if it crashes.. eh oh well can always use live cd
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> True, although I'd rather run it off the hard drive. ;)
[05:13] <spazz> aww
[05:13] <spazz> kaffeine wont play my avi file
[05:13] <spazz> yea
[05:13] <spazz> cd is soo slow..
[05:13] <spazz> but think my hdd is slower than it now lol
[05:14] <actinic> k everyone post your fps by typing: glxgears -printfps
[05:14] <spazz> aha... video working.. if i open up kaffeine...and open up mplayer at the same time
[05:15] <spazz> omg
[05:15] <spazz> SO. SLOW.
[05:15] <spazz> dropping ... all.. frames
[05:15] <Jucato> lol!!! I suddenly realized.... I wasn't using the nvidia binary drivers!!
[05:15] <spazz> ...has ati.
[05:15] <actinic>  :o
[05:16] <spazz> :(
[05:16] <Jucato> when I downgraded xserver-xorg-core.. I forgot to set it back!!!
[05:16] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:16] <spazz> How do I find out if 3d accel is enabled??
[05:16] <dr_willis> run quake4 :P
[05:16] <Jucato> spazz: type in "glxgears"
[05:16] <OOD> heh
[05:16] <spazz> lol..
[05:17] <spazz> it works... lol
[05:17] <Jucato> spazz: do the gears turn smoothly?
[05:17] <spazz> yea
[05:17] <bimberi> spazz: glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:17] <dr_willis> heck ive sene them turn so fast they look slow. :P
[05:17] <c0rrupt> j
[05:17] <actinic> wow, another kubuntu folding member! http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=51238
[05:18] <spazz> Direct rendering : yes
[05:18] <spazz> I need to get the right video driver ... have ati mobility 7500
[05:18] <spazz> arr, ancient pos.
[05:18] <OOD> if you have direct rendering then you have the right video driver
[05:19] <spazz> thought it was just generic.
[05:19] <spazz> hmm wonder why videos are dropping frames
[05:19] <Jucato> actinic: what was that command again?
[05:20] <Jucato> i can't see the fps...
[05:20] <actinic> glxgears -printfps
[05:21] <actinic> my guess is you can't type :)
[05:21] <Jucato> oh there
[05:21] <Jucato> thanks!
[05:21] <spazz> small avi files work ok
[05:21] <spazz> but .... fullsize movies
[05:21] <spazz> dont work smoothly
[05:22] <gaspock5> ubotu: I <3 u
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <OOD> it needs an emotion chip to understand that
[05:23] <spazz> argh
[05:23] <spazz> it didnt install vlc i dont think
[05:23] <spazz> not in menu
[05:23] <spazz> and wont open by running vlc command
[05:23] <actinic> lol, podcasts i'm listening too is  "automatix vs bad comments about it on IRC, who's right'
[05:23] <Jucato> ...
[05:24] <dr_willis> I would guess irc.
[05:24] <OOD> so, who's right?
[05:24] <spazz> Arghj.
[05:24] <spazz> I used autmatix to install some stuff
[05:24] <actinic> both hosts like it
[05:24] <Jucato> ubotu is right...
[05:24] <spazz> and it didnt even work... right..
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is right... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <actinic> <--- sticks tongue out at people
[05:24] <dr_willis> did they mention the huge flame war and liceing fight about it?
[05:24] <Jucato> I guess ubotu doesn't understand the language of love. It only understands 100111001000111100001
[05:25] <OOD> yeah, as i said, it needs an emotion chip
[05:25] <OOD> :P
[05:25] <actinic> what's that have to do with functionality?
[05:25] <actinic> :)
[05:25] <actinic> oh, they say most irc guys are noobs
[05:25] <spazz> I am so damn bored.
[05:25] <spazz> ... movies. work. slow.
[05:25] <spazz> pos.
[05:25] <actinic> lol
[05:25] <Jucato> or someone could just teach ubotu something like love = 1; hate = 0
[05:26] <spazz> :( no good games for linux.
[05:26] <Jucato> I consider Frozen Bubble a good game. :-D
[05:26] <dr_willis> Games are for the weak
[05:26] <OOD> there's a lot of good games for linux
[05:26] <Jucato> Though I would really go for a good RPG
[05:26] <dr_willis> and Rocks & Diamonds Rule.
[05:26] <spazz> :( sigh lol
[05:26] <spazz> Me too.
[05:26] <dr_willis> SLUNE is fun also
[05:26] <OOD> and wine is decent from game to game
[05:27] <Jucato> wine is decent from anything to anything...
[05:27] <actinic> spazz, UT, Quake, ET ...
[05:27] <dr_willis> Been playing Oblivian on the pc.
[05:27] <dr_willis> Its annoying.
[05:27] <actinic> SOFII
[05:27] <Jucato> oh, and NWN, which I don'thave..
[05:27] <spazz> Found this huge list of
[05:27] <spazz> MMOPRG games .... all FREE.
[05:27] <dr_willis> Ya got the various Quake3 code variants also. that are fun.
[05:27] <dr_willis> spazz,  Puzzle Pirates. :P
[05:27] <spazz> I want something I can download and install easily.
[05:27] <spazz> lol.
[05:27] <OOD> tremulous?
[05:27] <spazz> UT, and Quake, I want those.. hmm.
[05:28] <dr_willis> OOD,  thats one of them. :P
[05:28] <dr_willis> tremulous makes me dizzy
[05:28] <OOD> yeah, that game is the best opensource game
[05:28] <dr_willis> RTCW:ET is a must get
[05:28] <Jucato> what's it about? Tremolous, I mean?
[05:28] <actinic> yes indeed
[05:28] <dr_willis> Marines Vs Bugs
[05:28] <OOD> it's a great multiplayer game
[05:28] <Jucato> oh...
[05:28] <OOD> RTS mixed with FPS
[05:28] <spazz> Is Quake .. or a varient free?
[05:28] <dr_willis> Takes some learning.
[05:28] <spazz> for linux?
[05:28] <dr_willis> Its Q3 based. on the code
[05:28] <dr_willis> 100% free
[05:29] <Jucato> grr.... I guess most Linux game developers are more of the RTS/FPS types... T_T
[05:29] <dr_willis> Theres  also that FreeCraft  game. :P and many others at the "linux game tome"
[05:29] <dr_willis> xmoto - is fun
[05:29] <OOD> freecraft?
[05:29] <actinic> spazz: check out all the top flight games ... http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6
[05:29] <spazz> top flight?
[05:30] <actinic> forgot about Doom 3
[05:30] <OOD> spazz: if you're into gaming, you should definitely check out WIne: www.winehq.org
[05:31] <spazz> looking now
[05:31] <OOD> there's a database of apps which you can browser around to see how well your game runs
[05:32] <spazz> can never figure out
[05:32] <spazz> where to find the linux downloads for games
[05:33] <rrbiz> to add software do I unpound the universe or backport
[05:33] <OOD> this site has doom3 ET and quake4 downloads for linux: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/
[05:34] <dr_willis> Theres  also that FreeCraft  game. :P and many others at the "linux game tome"   <<--- google for the Linux game tome. :P
[05:34] <OOD> tremulous, just google that
[05:34] <dr_willis> heh. or use synaptic/adept and search for games
[05:34] <Jucato> rrbiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:34] <dr_willis> rtcw:et is also a must get FPS.
[05:34] <OOD> i heard tremulous will be included in edgy's repo
[05:34] <dr_willis> Heh - that would be amuseing.
[05:35] <dr_willis> Too bad the game makes me want to Puke after playing it for 10 min. :)
[05:35] <dr_willis> dang wall crawling bugs.
[05:35] <OOD> just play as humans, not as confusing :P
[05:36] <dr_willis> OOD,  EVERYONE wants to play as the humans.,
[05:36] <dr_willis> :) i never can get in on the human side
[05:36] <OOD> lol, i always prefer to play as aliens, as do a lot of other people
[05:36] <dr_willis> i cant even get the  game to run under windows.. oddly enough.. runs great under linux
[05:37] <OOD> it's much more fun being able to wall walk
[05:37] <spazz> Where do i get the quake engine
[05:37] <spazz> argh
[05:37] <OOD> quake the game isn't free
[05:37] <spazz> .. thought there was free linux versiono fit
[05:37] <OOD> no
[05:37] <spazz> version of it
[05:37] <spazz> well i want something free
[05:37] <clemons> Kubuntu won't let two users both have sound at the same time
[05:38] <spazz> what about unreal tournament?
[05:38] <clemons> (if one user has his session locked and the other is logged in)
[05:38] <spazz> that free on linux?
[05:38] <OOD> that game isnt free either
[05:38] <spazz> the first one
[05:38] <digivore> what is swiftfox?
[05:38] <spazz> like the original one
[05:38] <Jucato> !swiftfox
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <clemons> No one would make games if they weren't getting paid
[05:38] <clemons> they are too advanced
[05:38] <OOD> nexuiz is a unreal tournament like game and it's free
[05:38] <spazz> hey i downloaded that the other day
[05:38] <Jucato> digivore: I think it's a lighter and faster version of Firefox? I'm not sure...
[05:38] <spazz> on friends windows comp
[05:38] <spazz> i cant install windows on here
[05:39] <clemons> actually, I've heard there is something kind of like quake too that is free
[05:39] <spazz> akways installation error
[05:39] <OOD> Jucato: it's firefox optimised for a certain processor
[05:39] <digivore> ahh ok
[05:39] <clemons> but it's still not unreal
[05:39] <Jucato> oh
[05:39] <digivore> and what is the application called 'wine'  is it an windows program emulator?
[05:39] <dr_willis> the Quake 1,2,3 source code is now under the GPL. NOT the data files however. :P
[05:39] <dr_willis> !wine
[05:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:39] <dr_willis> wine windowsbinary.exe
[05:39] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <OOD> digivore: no, it's a program that lets you run windows progams in linux natively
[05:40] <digivore> thanks...   wine not recommended for beginers to linux?
[05:40] <dr_willis> digivore,  depends on what you are doing.
[05:40] <OOD> it takes some tweaking to get it working depending on the app
[05:40] <dr_willis> wine sol.exe
[05:40] <dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[05:40] <dr_willis> if i catching you using it to run mIRC i will slap you. :)
[05:40] <digivore> hahah
[05:40] <OOD> lol
[05:41] <Jucato> hmm...
[05:41] <digivore> does wine come standard with kubuntu?
[05:41] <Jucato> run wine to install VMWare Player for windows to run Kubuntu... would that be possible?
[05:41] <OOD> digivore: no
[05:41] <OOD> you have to install it
[05:42] <OOD> Jucato: not possible, VMWare install drivers, and wine can't run windows drivers
[05:42] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:42] <OOD> that would be ReactOS's job :P
[05:42] <clemons> wine can try
[05:42] <clemons> :(
[05:42] <spazz> sigh
[05:42] <spazz> linux so annoying
[05:42] <Jucato> ok then, run VMWare Player to run XP to run VMWare Player for Windows to run Kubuntu :-D
[05:42] <clemons> I find linux to be quite relaxing
[05:42] <Jucato> spazz: how many distros have you tried out?
[05:43] <clemons> I used to use gentoo
[05:43] <spazz> dunno. quite a few.
[05:43] <OOD> there's a learning and an annoying curve in linux'
[05:43] <dr_willis> Gentoo was fun for a while.. then got annoying. :)
[05:43] <spazz> burned like 12 live cds testing diff ones out
[05:43] <spazz> like ubuntu/kubuntu cuz of the community
[05:43] <clemons> I'd say gentoo was annoying all the way through
[05:43] <Jucato> spazz: and all of them had this problem with multimedia codecs?
[05:43] <spazz> eh, no.
[05:44] <spazz> ive have ubuntu running perfectly fine before
[05:44] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:44] <spazz> but then i broke the install
[05:44] <spazz> and ... flash 9 doesnt work yet
[05:44] <spazz> video playback is choppy
[05:44] <dr_willis> The problem with Multimedia codecs - is theres too many LEGAL bull*@*@  limations and  just too many of them.
[05:44] <dr_willis> lol
[05:44] <spazz> ... argh. need new laptop.
[05:44] <spazz> getting ... mac lol
[05:44] <OOD> i just got the win32 codecs
[05:44] <clemons> The problem is they build everything for windows
[05:44] <OOD> and i can run just about any media file
[05:45] <clemons> I think (k)ubuntu is a huge step in the right direction for linux
[05:45] <unix_infidel> spazz: even mac has some drm limitations.
[05:45] <dr_willis> Ive found many wmv's that dont work. :P or some really funky odd  formats.
[05:45] <OOD> dr_willis: that's what you need the win32 codecs fore :D
[05:45] <dr_willis>  i can show you some wmv's that the win32codec pack wont help. :P
[05:45] <spazz> I dun care, as long as I can do all my basic stuff .. download music/movies, burn cd/dvds, and play games. arrgh. so need new computer lol. this one aint cutting it.
[05:45] <dr_willis> since they want ya to install some Malware codecs from russian XXX sites. :)
[05:46] <dr_willis> heh heh.
[05:46] <Jucato> of course, w32codecs doesn't play DRM'ed WIndows Media....
[05:46] <dr_willis> wmv = just say no. :)
[05:46] <Jucato> lol
[05:46] <OOD> yeah, i've encountered a few odd ball wmv's
[05:46] <dr_willis> and i post that on all these torrent 'comments'
[05:46] <spazz> I want a game that has a damn binary installer lol.
[05:46] <spazz> like a 3d game..
[05:46] <Jucato> I have a few. I donwloaded it from an KidzOnline site, to which I'm registered
[05:46] <OOD> tremulous
[05:46] <dr_willis>  spazz  rtcw:ET
[05:46] <spazz> like, fps, or rpg game..
[05:46] <OOD> enemy territory
[05:46] <dr_willis> or trembulys
[05:46] <dr_willis> :P
[05:46] <spazz> not free? or free..
[05:46] <OOD> quake 4
[05:46] <OOD> doom 3
[05:47] <OOD> list goes on
[05:47] <spazz> Want something FREE lol.
[05:47] <dr_willis> tremulous - 100% GPL
[05:47] <dr_willis> free and 'free'
[05:47] <dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <OOD> rtcw enemy territory is free as well
[05:48] <OOD> and so is nexuiz
[05:48] <spazz> I want to get that..
[05:48] <spazz> and ..have nexuix on its own tab
[05:49] <spazz> its a .run file
[05:49] <spazz> how do i use that? last time i tried one of those it didnt work.
[05:49] <OOD> is it an installer?
[05:49] <spazz> yea
[05:50] <OOD> go into terminal, and type sh bla.run
[05:50] <dr_willis> run it correctly. :P
[05:50] <spazz> it.. what?
[05:50] <spazz> whats the bla?
[05:51] <OOD> as in, sh yourfilename.run
 I want a game that has a damn binary installer lol.  <------- You got one. :P no quit ya belly acheing!
[05:51] <dr_willis> :P
[05:51] <spazz> oh ok
[05:51] <dr_willis> Linux Tip #1  - when in doubt 'think'
[05:51] <dr_willis> :P
[05:51] <dr_willis> yourfilename.run  - command not found
[05:51] <dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <spazz> Linux Tip #2 - when something doesn't 'work' raise hand and 'break' it.
[05:52] <dr_willis> #2 - when somthing dosent work - its proberly the users fault.
[05:52] <spazz> #3 - no its DEVLOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.
[05:52] <dr_willis> Nope.. it works for them :)
[05:52] <spazz> ( /sweat )
[05:54] <dr_willis> (/blood)
[05:54] <dr_willis> (/tears)
[05:54] <OOD> o.0
[05:55] <spazz> (/bored)0
[06:14] <ubuntu> I've hooped my X11 some how I've get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx
[06:15] <rrbiz> is there a backup xorg.conf in X11 dir?
[06:15] <CraZy674> i'll check
[06:15] <manzuk> tell me CraZy674 exactly what u did before the error appeared
[06:16] <CraZy674> manzuk: installed unsupported things trying to get mp3s working
[06:17] <manzuk> mmm, what do u mean?
[06:18] <macconline> hi...
[06:18] <CraZy674> manzuk: not registered hold on
[06:18] <macconline> karamba or superkaramba.. ???
[06:21] <Goop2> I was trying to compile an icon theme and it said "make: command not found"
[06:23] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[06:23] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[06:24] <CraZy675> is there a log of everything i've apt-getted? so I can un install things that screwed up my x11?
[06:25] <CraZy675> I've hooped my X11 some how I've get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx
[06:26] <zavenh> Hi
[06:26] <bimberi> CraZy675: have a look at that factoid from ubotu (above)
[06:27] <CraZy675> oh
[06:27] <zavenh> Question: I have plugged in an external Hardrive to transfer some filess off my Kubuntu desktop (Dapper). It says I need write access. How do I give myself write access?
[06:27] <CraZy675> i broke it by installing programs
[06:27] <CraZy675> that link i get a 503
[06:28] <zavenh> blarghm, damn scroll wheel
[06:28] <bimberi> CraZy675: what does 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core' say for the package Version
[06:28] <bimberi> ?
[06:28] <CraZy675> i've tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that doesn't work
[06:29] <CraZy675> bimberi:  will that work from the live CD
[06:29] <bimberi> CraZy675: hm, i think launchpad is down atm :|
[06:29] <CraZy675> i'm chatting using the live/install cd cause i'm to much of a noob to use command line
[06:29] <bimberi> CraZy675: what work? the update?
[06:29] <CraZy675> dpkg
[06:30] <bimberi> CraZy675: no, you will need to do it from command line once booted normally
[06:31] <bimberi> CraZy675: there is an easier command that downgrades 2 versions: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:31] <timi_> you cant read scilab
[06:32] <bimberi> CraZy675: that has been working for people
[06:32] <CraZy675> bimberi: cool, can't i just chroot my partition and then sudo apt-get  install xser...... ?
[06:33] <bimberi> CraZy675: probably, but that's out of my experience sorry
[06:33] <CraZy675> bimberi: ok cool thanks
[06:34] <bimberi> CraZy675: np :)
[06:41] <zavenh> how do I go about installing WINE on kubuntu?
[06:42] <Dasnipa> by installing the package
[06:42] <Dasnipa> tada
[06:42] <draik> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:42] <zavenh> thanks draik
[06:42] <rrbiz> lol
[06:42] <draik> np
[06:43] <zavenh> i get this
[06:43] <zavenh> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:43] <zavenh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:43] <zavenh> is only available from another source
[06:43] <rrbiz> I saw a link that adds a different repository for wine, something like from headquarters or so
[06:43] <zavenh> so, yeah, it didn't work :\
[06:43] <rrbiz> and was setup for ubuntu as well as debian
[06:44] <mighty-d> hi, i want to send messages to users in the same box within x
[06:44] <zavenh> well isn't kubuntu basically ubuntu with KDE?
[06:45] <rrbiz> here's the link : http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:46] <zavenh> yeah, I already got there, but I don't have that Synaptic thing they mention
[06:46] <rrbiz> you can also use konsole and modify sources.list, do you know how to do that?
[06:46] <zavenh> no
[06:47] <obf213> what package do i need to download to have my wifi find networks at boot
[06:47] <obf213> i thought i saw it early but when i checked a gain i couldnt remember how to find it
[06:48] <rrbiz> okay here's an easier one, open kde menu, click on run, then type kdesu kwite, then open /etc/apt/sources.list and that line in there, and save
[06:48] <zavenh> command kwite cannot be found
[06:48] <obf213> what package
[06:49] <zavenh> or did you mean kwrite?
[06:49] <rrbiz> obf213: I'm trying to figure out a way to get my wifi web setting auto setup while bootup, only know gnome does it
[06:49] <rrbiz> oh yeah kwrite
[06:49] <zavenh> ok
[06:49] <zavenh> open
[06:49] <rrbiz> ;)
[06:50] <zavenh> ok
[06:50] <zavenh> do i need to put # before each line?
[06:50] <obf213> i think i found it rrbiz
[06:51] <rrbiz> the # means it's ommited, so you need to remove the # for the line you want enabled
[06:51] <zavenh> ok
[06:51] <rrbiz> obf213: what's that?
[06:51] <zavenh> oik, saved
[06:51] <zavenh> now what :\
[06:52] <obf213> wifi radar
[06:52] <zavenh> ooh, ok, i think i figured out the rest
[06:52] <rrbiz> is that the name of the package?
[06:53] <rrbiz> zavenh, yeah it's not too difficult, just follow the instructions on that site
[06:53] <obf213> rrbiz yes
[06:53] <zavenh> ok, I have another problem. I need write access to an external drive, which I apparently dont have
[06:54] <rrbiz> hmm, for that one there's a file you need to modify, I think it's called fstab or something let me check
[06:54] <obf213> rrbiz it doesnt seem to open
[06:55] <rrbiz> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html < here's some good instructions
[07:00] <Generic> anyone have recommendations for alternate file explorers?
[07:02] <abattoir> Generic: krusader?
[07:02] <abattoir> !krusader
[07:02] <ubotu> krusader: Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1940 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[07:04] <spazz> How do I figure out why my divx/xvid videos and large avi/mpeg files (over 300mb) keeps dropping frames ... like.. getting probably 2 or 3 less frames per second.
[07:05] <k31th> yo
[07:05] <spazz> hi..
[07:05] <rrbiz> Generic: Rox is pretty cool also
[07:08] <Generic> grr
[07:08] <Generic> where the deuce am i signing on from?
[07:09] <Ashex> that's going to get old real quick
[07:09] <k31th> just going to setuip kubuntu on this wacky old p3 800 with 512mb ram lol
[07:09] <k31th> see how it goes...
[07:10] <draik> Jucato, you rang?
[07:10] <Jucato> lol
[07:10] <Jucato> actually, I beeped
[07:11] <Jucato> how are inteliwasp and intelikely related?
[07:12] <inteliwasp> nope
[07:14] <inteliwasp> i wonder how hard it is to make a program to show the ip address and what ever else on a pop-up window like thunderbird does in windows...
[07:17] <a-priori> inteliwasp: you can do this from the console
[07:18] <inteliwasp> i'm no programer...
[07:20] <poningru> inteliwasp: whats wrong?
[07:20] <poningru> what does tbird do on windows that it doesnt do in linux?
[07:20] <a-priori> inteliwasp: okay, can you give more info about what you want?
[07:22] <inteliwasp> i'm not shure if the linux version does it but when you get mail, there is a small window that rolls up from th lower right that says "you have # new mesages"
[07:23] <a-priori> I don't use thunderbird myself, but I'd be surprised if it didn't...
[07:24] <fyyrest0rm> Hi guys.. i'm new here and am having a little problem..hopefully someone can help me? I've just installed Kubuntu and am trying to access something on another machine (http://hostname:port) and i keep getting a "can't connect" type error..but its working from other machines
[07:26] <a-priori> fyyrest0rm: can you give more info? what are you trying to access on this other machine?
[07:27] <fyyrest0rm> a-priori: 2 things, a web interface for a bittorrent client and a web interface for tightvnc
[07:27] <fyyrest0rm> i can ping the machine, but thats it
[07:28] <fyyrest0rm> however from another (windows) machine I can access the web interfaces just fine
[07:28] <a-priori> okay... that's weird
[07:29] <fyyrest0rm> yeah
[07:29] <fyyrest0rm> i've tried firefox and konqueror thinking maybe konqueror just had a problem but no-go either way
[07:29] <a-priori> so you're entering the same url into your browser as you do on windows, and it can't connect?
[07:29] <fyyrest0rm> correct
[07:29] <fyyrest0rm> http://azureus:6886
[07:29] <fyyrest0rm> windows connects, kubuntu does not
[07:30] <a-priori> hmm...
[07:30] <a-priori> try entering that computer's IP address manually
[07:30] <Jucato> does anyone know when it will be safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core?
[07:30] <a-priori> i.e, substituting "azureus" with that computer's IP
[07:30] <matt___> jucato do you think that it is not safe?
[07:30] <Jucato> matt___: I know that it's not yet ok
[07:32] <matt___> jucato opps Ive just done an update and i think it installed xserver-xorg-core
[07:32] <fyyrest0rm2> bleh..brownout
[07:32] <Jucato> matt___: you haven't restarted X, have you?
[07:32] <a-priori> fyyrest0rm2: heh, okay
[07:32] <matt___> no
[07:32] <a-priori> fyyrest0rm2: you get my last message?
[07:32] <matt___> how do I roll back do you know?
[07:32] <Jucato> read the last part of the topic
[07:33] <fyyrest0rm2> a-priori: probably not..last I saw you asked if I was typing the same url
 try entering that computer's IP address manually
 i.e, substituting "azureus" with that computer's IP
[07:33] <a-posteriori> ^_^
[07:34] <a-priori> Jucato: wise-ass, eh? :-P
[07:34] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:34] <matt___> jucato - sorry what last part of the topic?
[07:34] <fyyrest0rm2> a-priori: that way works
[07:34] <a-priori> okay... I think I know what the problem is
[07:34] <Jucato> "Your X broken, the fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[07:34] <k31th> hum anyone think of a nice way to script auto ssh script, i have like 8 machines i shell to on a daily basis...
[07:35] <a-priori> on Windows, the name is being resolved through SMB, not DNS
[07:35] <draik> Jucato, would you recommend I upgrade to the new xserver-xorg-core and then apply the fix?
[07:36] <matt___> thank you jucato
[07:36] <fyyrest0rm2> a-priori: lemme guess../etc/hosts? lol
[07:36] <a-priori> yeah, that's one way to solve it
[07:36] <Jucato> draik: nope. The "fix" is actually downgrading what you upgraded...
[07:36] <draik> how do I find out what version I have?
[07:36] <fyyrest0rm2> a-priori: is there a better way?
[07:36] <inteliwasp> is it posible to have transparent terminals that can show the windows behind it?
[07:37] <inteliwasp> i mean the konsole
[07:37] <draik> inteliwasp, that's all about the settings
[07:37] <draik> you can set the transparency
[07:37] <draik> or just use 'yakuake'
[07:37] <draik> I use it and I'm happy
[07:37] <Jucato> transparent, but you can't see the windows behind it
[07:38] <Jucato> you can only see the wallpaper beneath everything else
[07:38] <inteliwasp> darn
[07:39] <draik> do you have a reason for wanting transparency or just for the looks?
[07:39] <noaXess> good morning..
[07:39] <draik> good night
[07:39] <a-priori> fyyrest0rm2: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88206.html
[07:39] <Jucato> good morning! (afternoon here!)
[07:39] <a-priori> that guy seems to be doing what you want
[07:40] <inteliwasp> mostly so i can monitor 2 things at once on my laptop ;)
[07:40] <fyyrest0rm2> a-priori: woot! looks like that'll work. thanks
[07:40] <a-priori> no problem
[07:40] <a-priori> let me know if it works
[07:42] <noaXess> i get following error from logrotate: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: error running postrotate script
[07:42] <noaXess> now.. how can i find out, which logrotate script causes this error?
[07:43] <inteliwasp> ooo that yakuake is just niiiice
[07:43] <fyyrest0rm2> a-prior: yep. that did the trick :)
[07:43] <a-priori> awesome
[07:44] <fyyrest0rm2> trying to get all these little things worked out so i can ditch windows completely lol
[07:44] <a-priori> heh
[07:45] <matt___> does anyone know of the ubuntu counter?
[07:45] <matt___> it counts the number of ubuntu users and kubuntu users
[07:45] <Hobbsee> matt___: indeed
[07:46] <Hobbsee> there's also a linux counter
[07:46] <matt___> ok i've just found it  http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/
[07:47] <matt___> i see that kubuntu is only at 15% - I would have through that it would be about 50/50 between Kubuntu and Ubuntu
[07:48] <fyyrest0rm2> lol don't make it easy to play mp3 do they
[07:49] <Jucato> whoa... I didn't notice Hobbsee was in ^_^
[07:50] <Hobbsee|2mins> Jucato: indeed.  for a little bit
[07:50] <Hobbsee|2mins> not for much longer though
[07:50] <Jucato> oh...
[07:50] <Jucato> last 2 mins and counting!
[07:51] <jamadagni> @jucato: what 2 mins?
[07:51] <Jucato> jamadagni: in Hobbsee's name...
[07:51] <John-Z> KUBUNTU ROCKS!
[07:51] <John-Z> j/k
[07:52] <Jucato> nah! Kubuntu r0xx0rz!
[07:52] <jamadagni> ok guys i need your help
[07:53] <Hobbsee|2mins> jamadagni: until my battery runs out
[07:53] <Hobbsee|2mins> now it's showing 1 min
[07:53] <Hobbsee|2mins> and the battery meter is showing as emtpy
[07:53] <Jucato>  O_o
[07:54] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:54] <jamadagni> i used
[07:54] <jamadagni> wget --recursive --tries=inf --level=inf -nH --cut-dirs=7 --accept ``*i386.deb'',``*all.deb'' --reject ``*-dev*.deb'',``*-dbg*.deb'' -np -N ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu/pool-dapper/
[07:54] <jamadagni> to download the latest kde packages for dapper for i386
[07:54] <Jucato> errr... jamadagni...
[07:54] <Jucato> you don't want to use apt-get or Adept?
[07:54] <Hobbsee|2mins> Jucato: guess we'll see how accurate it is :P
[07:55] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:55] <Hobbsee|2mins> icky.  why not just install kubuntu-desktop, and add that mirror to your sources list?
[07:55] <Hobbsee|2mins> Uptime: 1 hours and 25 minutes
[07:55] <jamadagni> well i have a problem with my net connection which prevents me from using apt-get directly
[07:55] <Hobbsee|2mins> hmmm...
[07:55] <draik> Hey Hobbsee|2mins
[07:55] <Hobbsee|2mins> hi draik
[07:56] <Hobbsee|NoBatter> hmmm.
[07:56] <draik> testing out the battery
[07:56] <Hobbsee|NoBatter> we'll see how long it lasts
[07:56] <Jucato> no batter?
[07:56] <Hobbsee|NoBatter> yeah - no powerpoints nearby
[07:56] <draik> nope
[07:56] <Hobbsee|NoBatter> Jucato: character limit
[07:56] <Jucato> I had batter and bread for breakfast
[07:56] <Jucato> ^_^
[07:56] <draik> I haven't had batter in a long time
[07:56] <draik> hmmm
[07:59] <jamadagni> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206692&highlight=1.0.0.0 for the problem i am facing
[07:59] <jamadagni> so i am forced to download the packages using wget
[07:59] <jamadagni> and when i do sudo apt-get upgrade after adding a line to my local repository to sources.list, i get:
[08:00] <fyyrest0rm> ok i have another question: Trying to use ssh to get to a friends server..however the login there is 'root'..and my login here is 'storm'..when i ssh IP it asks for a pw, and obviously the username is wrong so it doesnt work..anything i can do on my end?
[08:00] <Jucato> jamadagni: use pastebin if you're going to post multiple lines
[08:00] <Jucato> !pastebin
[08:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <jamadagni> ok sorry. i just read about it at wikipedia but did not figure out how to use it... one min
[08:02] <Moodles> is there games that work on gnome, that don't work on kde?
[08:02] <Jucato> jamadagni: so you're saying that you can't update using the apt-get even when you add the special repository for KDE 3.5.4?
[08:02] <jamadagni> jucato: that's right
[08:02] <jamadagni> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d21365 -- is this how i use the pastebin?
[08:03] <Jucato> uhuh
[08:03] <jamadagni> ok then
[08:03] <jamadagni> is there a kubuntu applet that helps easy pasting?
[08:04] <Jucato> what do you mean by "easy pasting"?
[08:04] <jamadagni> there appears to be an applet for gnome called webboard - see http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/extras/
[08:04] <jamadagni> ok anyway what to do about my error? what is teh reason?
[08:05] <Jucato> jamadagni: try using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of plain "upgrade"
[08:05] <Jucato> btw, is there a particular reason why you absolutely need KDE 3.5.4?
[08:05] <jamadagni> well just for fun
[08:05] <jamadagni> ;)
[08:05] <Jucato> I can't personally recommend it, yet
[08:05] <jamadagni> why not?
[08:05] <Jucato> it has some bugs here and there...
[08:06] <Jucato> System Settings crashing, media:/ and HAL not always working properly, etc etc etc
[08:06] <Jucato> Hobbsee|NoBatter: you're still here! that must be one strong battery! :-D
[08:16] <mcrandello> hi is there any way other than /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to block modules from loading?
[08:16] <mcrandello> well other than diking them out with chmod 000
[08:16] <Jucato> oh she's gone...
[08:18] <mcrandello> because I have all this stuff listed in there and they're still loading :(
[08:20] <mcrandello> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/143849
[08:21] <mcrandello> there a whole bunch of stuff, the cpu frequency for instance that doesn't really apply (celeron)
[08:21] <mcrandello> and a lot of other stuff I'm simply not using
[08:27] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[08:40] <SpAwN> !restricted
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:44] <utab> I had a printer problem, when i installed the printer by the GUI, it printed the test page without problems but now no output on the device
[08:45] <utab> the printer is a network printer
[08:46] <jende> Hi folks! Has anyone of you xampp installed?
[08:54] <Ameas> Anyone in here?
[08:54] <Hobbsee> quite possibly
[08:54] <Ameas> hah.
[08:54] <thyko> virtually ...
[08:54] <Jucato> whoa! Hobbsee you're back! never saw you creep back in...
[08:54] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i just got back :)
[08:55] <Jucato> oooh... I see
[08:56] <Ameas> Could anyone recommend a decent filesharing program to me? it seems all the linux versions wont work for me, and ktorrent doesnt want to work right either.
[08:57] <noiesmo> Ameas, check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[08:57] <Ameas> ah.. thanks alot!
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuguid
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuguide
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <mcrandello> anyone know what overrides /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in ubuntu?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !foo is bar
[08:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !foo
[08:58] <ubotu> foo is bar
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !forget foo
[08:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[08:58] <Hobbsee> yay, Seveas fixed the bot
[08:58] <Hobbsee> %whoami
[08:58] <ubotu> Hobbsee
[08:58] <mcrandello> seems broken you told it to forget something but it's going to remember it
[08:59] <fyyrest0rm> ok..is there any way to change the clock to a 12-hour format? its driving me nuts
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuguide is <reply>The Ubuntu Guide is old and out of date, please dont use it.  see wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com for more recent information
[08:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuguide
[08:59] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Guide is old and out of date, please dont use it.  see wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com for more recent information
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !help
[08:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !start
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <bimberi> !foo
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <Jucato> !abuse
[08:59] <Hobbsee> it's working
[08:59] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:59] <Hobbsee> bimberi: know what the old ubuntuguide factoid was?
[08:59] <Jucato> er.. not that one..
[09:00] <Hobbsee> !botabuse > Jucato
[09:00] <Jucato> aaaah thanks
[09:00] <bimberi> Hobbsee: nope sorry
[09:00] <Seveas> Hobbsee, err, ubuntuguide is much better now
[09:00] <Seveas> the factoid was intentionally removed
[09:00] <Hobbsee> !forget ubuntuguide
[09:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[09:00] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ah, okay then :)
[09:00] <Seveas> mcrandello, it'll remember that it has forgotten it
[09:01] <mcrandello> ;)
[09:01] <deb> fyyrest0rm: kcontrol->region& Accessibility -> contry/Region & language -> time an date tab
[09:01] <Ameas> ok it tells me to type "sudo apt-get install azureus" yet it cant find azureus..
[09:01] <Seveas> (it doesn't forget anything, just replaces text with special text to indicate forgotten)
[09:01] <mcrandello> Ameas: try apt-cache search azureus
[09:01] <bimberi> forget will be handy when all my xorgbug* factoids become out of date
[09:02] <mcrandello> if it's not in there you may need to enable universe/multiverse to get it
[09:02] <Ameas> hm no that command doesnt even register with the terminal
[09:03] <Ameas> it just goes to another line.
[09:03] <fyyrest0rm> deb: thanks :)
[09:03] <mcrandello> Seveas: still it seems like the bot is being contrary
[09:03] <mcrandello> maybe something like: "Already forgotten!" or "Forget what?"
[09:04] <Ameas> ok using bittornado instead
[09:04] <mcrandello> Ameas: that means it isn't available at all in the repos you have enabled
[09:04] <Ameas> thanks..but i got bittornado to start installing
[09:04] <deb> Ameas: enable the universe repository, do a apt-get update and then run the command apt-get install azureus
[09:05] <Ameas> deb: how do i type an apt get update? (im new to all this)
[09:05] <mcrandello> just "sudo apt-get update" in a console
[09:06] <deb> Ameas: in ternimal
[09:06] <Ameas> ok cool
[09:06] <deb> Ameas: U can download it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/azureus
[09:06] <mcrandello> that should show a list scroll by where it quickly hits a number of servers and gets a new fresh list from at least two :)
[09:09] <Ameas> hmm
[09:09] <fyyrest0rm> hmm...how do i configure hardware acceleration?
[09:10] <mcrandello> fyyrest0rm: depends on the video card
[09:10] <fyyrest0rm> nvidia 5200
[09:11] <fyyrest0rm> i'm a complete noob here..am i supposed to install nvidia drivers?
[09:11] <mcrandello> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[09:12] <fyyrest0rm> hehe thanks
[09:12] <mcrandello> there's a guide for the nvidia drivers there, and always remember this, no matter how hairy it seems us ATI guys have it 10 times worse ;P
[09:12] <fyyrest0rm> yep..i ran gentoo on a radeon once upon a time..i remember the headaches
[09:13] <utab> printer installed but no response, it printed the test page but no others
[09:21] <utab> some people logged on
[09:23] <dan_> I need to downgrade libio-socket-ssl-perl to version 0.96 (currently 0.97) to make SSL works with popfile but I can't figure how...
[09:25] <mcrandello> does powernowd to anything other than make the cpu frequency scaling module things load?
[09:25] <mcrandello> despite my explicit blacklisting of them >:(
[09:29] <tari> any one know of a good stable development tool for linux that uses pascal as it lang
[09:31] <mcrandello> tari: maybe something like scite, not really an IDE but has syntax highlighting for damn near everything
[09:31] <mcrandello> there is a gnu pascal compiler that's supposed to work
[09:32] <mcrandello> "gpc"
[09:32] <tari> I know about lazarus .. a pritty cool freepascal IDE but it's just not enough I need somthing more like delphi
[09:34] <jaffa_> file>
[09:35] <tari> yes file
[09:35] <mcrandello> borland is making a new turbo series no idea if that includes linux ports
[09:35] <tari> click file from the menue
[09:36] <jaffa_> join channel #DevelopersGuild
[09:36] <Jucato> Hawkwind: you there?
[09:47] <Kabal> Good morning all :)
[09:47] <Kabal> I just got a notice of package update.. Xorg update.. I installed it.. now my desktop won't start anymore..
[09:47] <oliver> goodie ....
[09:47] <deeo> so... like, adept is telling me to update my xorg-core, again.  the fix seemed to be a 'rollback', has the package in apt been updated?  that is, it's wanting to install version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3, so is .2 the broken one?
[09:47] <Jucato> Kabal: the "fix" can be found at the last part of the topic
[09:48] <Kabal> ah damn I overlooked it
[09:48] <Jucato> deeo: no, the .3 is the broken one
[09:48] <Kabal> thanx Jucato
[09:48] <Jucato> just ignore the update notice
[09:48] <deeo> thought so, glad i didn't jump the gun.
[09:48] <forbidden_fruit> I'm getting this error:
[09:48] <forbidden_fruit> [13:17]  [DCOP]  Error: Could not execute script "/home/user/38231-amarok.pl". Check file permissions.
[09:48] <forbidden_fruit> I'm trying to execute a script as an alias under Konversation
[09:49] <forbidden_fruit> What permissions do I need?
[09:49] <Jucato> forbidden_fruit: did you check if the script is exectuable?
[09:49] <forbidden_fruit> How do I do that Jucato?
[09:49] <forbidden_fruit> I downloaded it from somewhere actually
[09:49] <deeo> so, it's just staying broken until further notice?
[09:49] <Jucato> forbidden_fruit: right-click on the file, then in the permissions tab, enable "is executable"
[09:50] <forbidden_fruit> Jucato: its ticked
[09:50] <Jucato> deeo: seems so. not really sure...
[09:50] <SillyZ> Hawkind? well well
[09:50] <Kabal> Jucato: that worked allright.. :)
[09:50] <Kabal> But why do they release so quickly?
[09:50] <Jucato> no idea...
[09:50] <Kabal> ke
[09:50] <Jucato> forbidden_fruit: hm...
[09:50] <oliver> hi, how do I start openoffice (writer) with root permissions to install dictionaries system wide ???
[09:51] <sganesh> hi all, I installed thunderbird (using .deb package) but now I cannot run thunderbird. when I execute /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin , it says the following
[09:51] <SillyZ> Hey btw, dev's for kubuntu , reiserfs is missing from the drop down of filesystem types in a fresh kubuntu installation
[09:51] <Jucato> SillyZ: errr...
[09:51] <deeo> SillyZ: probably in the alternate installer.
[09:51] <deeo> xfs isn't there either.
[09:51] <sganesh> error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:51] <jaffa_> kdesu openoffice
[09:52] <Jucato> reiserfx and xfs really aren't supposed to be there, last I checked...
[09:52] <SillyZ> well its not there trust me, did the install twice to make sure
[09:52] <SillyZ> straight kubuntu 6.06.1
[09:53] <forbidden_fruit> Jucato: any ideas?
[09:53] <Jucato> SillyZ: it's not there. I mean that they didn't build the functionality in the installer, AFAIK
[09:53] <ubuntu> \leave
[09:53] <SillyZ> aye i had to create the filesystem manually with a mkfs.reiserfs which is therre
[09:53] <oliver> jaffa: that was easy, i tried from a console (sudo), i didn't think of kdesu (its to early this morning), thanks for the hit on the head
[09:54] <Jucato> forbidden_fruit: sorry, none...
[09:54] <SillyZ> just dont understand why it was left out as its a rather popular filesystem in the linux community
[09:54] <forbidden_fruit> ty
[09:55] <jaffa_> oliver  kdesu openoffice then type root password that should do the trick
[09:55] <SillyZ> aslo, was kdevelop dropped ?  Cant seem to find that one either
[09:55] <jaffa_> Pleasure
[09:56] <Jucato> popular, but not the default. the Desktop CD is supposed to be a very, very, very basic install with very basic defaults. Geared more towards beginners who would probably know nothing about the difference between ext3 and reiserfs
[09:56] <Jucato> !info kdevelop3
[09:56] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[09:56] <deeo> does anybody remember... when that 2.4 kernel came out with reiser, and it ended up corrupting the entire filesystem after a few days or so
[09:57] <deeo> then it happened again a little later with ext3, in the 2.6 series
[09:57] <deeo> now i'm worried that xfs is next
[09:57] <Jucato> SillyZ: kdevelop wasn't dropped
[09:57] <SillyZ> ah ok, was looking for kedevelop, not kdevelop3
[09:57] <SillyZ> so Hawkind's an op around here, how very intresting
[09:57] <SillyZ> know him from the Mandrake support days
[09:57] <Jucato> he's still supporting Mandriva, iirc
[09:58] <SillyZ> aye i figured he proabably would be
[09:58] <SillyZ> if ya run into him tell em sillyz says heya
[09:58] <sganesh> hi all, can someone tell me why I am unable to run thunderbird after installing the same on kubuntu, when I try run the command manually (/usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin) it says the following and nothing comes up
[09:58] <sganesh> ./mozilla-thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:58] <Jucato> Ok. I'll tell him you said hi if I run over him
[09:58] <SillyZ> heeh thnks
[09:59] <SillyZ> i got 5 diskettes here, just itching to be installed xubuntu
[09:59] <SillyZ> bbiab
[09:59] <SillyZ> thanks yall
[10:05] <rrbiz> which package do I need, to be able to build with make?
[10:05] <Jucato> rrbiz: you need to install "build-essential"
[10:05] <Jucato> !build-essential
[10:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:06] <Jucato> !info build-essential
[10:06] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:06] <rrbiz> I tried that, and apt says it's not finding it
[10:06] <Jucato> rrbiz: have you been able to install anything from apt-get?
[10:06] <rrbiz> yeah
[10:06] <unix_infidel> anyone here on a laptop using ati?
[10:06] <Jucato> hmm...
[10:07] <Jucato> rrbiz: check your sources.list and make sure that this line isn't disabled/commented: "deb http://xx.archive.ubunt.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" (where xx is your local server: us, uk, gb, au, fr, etc)
[10:07] <unix_infidel> or rather, someone here with a laptop using the radeon driver
[10:08] <fyyrest0rm> anyone care to help me out with getting my nvidia card going? I've tried the guide that was listed earlier and A) the script borked my system and I had to reinstall..B) the manual install isn't working..keep getting a command not found error
[10:08] <unix_infidel> as opposed to the default ati driver
[10:08] <unix_infidel> ?
[10:10] <jaffa_> fyyrest0rm ok you have to have the nvidia  restricted headers
[10:10] <fyyrest0rm> jaffa: noob here lol
[10:11] <fyyrest0rm> jaffa: what do I need to do?
[10:11] <fyyrest0rm> so far all i've done is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[10:13] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: have you tried this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper use method 1
[10:13] <jaffa_> ok go to you adept and only install these Nvidia-glx , Nvidia-kernel-common and Nvidia-kernel-source
[10:14] <Jucato> actually, fyyrest0rm also needs the linux-restricted-modules for his kernel...
[10:14] <jaffa_> ok get that also
[10:18] <fyyrest0rm> adept says that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already installed
[10:18] <fyyrest0rm> as well as linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:19] <sleeptyper> humm... skype 32bit in 64bit kubuntu... how i do that ?
[10:19] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: what kernel version are you using? (the output of 'uname -r')
[10:19] <fyyrest0rm> 2.6.15-26-386
[10:19] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: ok, now install nvidia-glx (nvidia-settings will be removed)
[10:20] <jaffa_> why does the Nvidia settings mess up evrything?
[10:20] <fyyrest0rm> done
[10:20] <Jucato> because nvidia-glx installs its own nvidia settings stuff, AFAIK
[10:21] <fyyrest0rm> now what?
[10:21] <jaffa_> cool
[10:21] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: in the command line, type "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[10:21] <fyyrest0rm> new X configuration file written
[10:22] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: ok, just take note of the name of the old xorg.conf
[10:22] <Jucato> now, restart X
[10:23] <fyyrest0rm> ctl-alt-backspace?
[10:23] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: yep. save everything that needs saving first
[10:24] <koriel> how come that I have the latest xine version and libs but still I can't play some dvds because I get some key decode error?
[10:31] <tari> koriel you need to get hold of libdvd
[10:36] <fyyrest0rm> no go on the nvidia: [EE]  no deviced detected. Fatal server error. no screens found
[10:36] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: did it work?
[10:36] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: nope
[10:37] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: did you perform an update earlier? one that says xserver-xorg-core will be upgraded?
[10:37] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i believe so
[10:37] <Jucato> ok, that's the problem
[10:37] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i think that was one of them that adept popped up
[10:37] <fyyrest0rm> lol
[10:37] <fyyrest0rm> so is it fixable or am i borked again?
[10:38] <Jucato> fixable
[10:38] <Jucato> the last part of the topic has the command
[10:38] <fyyrest0rm> doh hehe
[10:38] <Jucato> then try again :-D
[10:38] <Jucato> (restart X)
[10:39] <koriel> tari: I got libdvdread3, libdvdplay0 libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4
[10:39] <fyyrest0rm> ok..the monitor i'm currently on is old and a bit fuzzy..is that 1:1.0.2.etc?
[10:39] <tari> that sounds about right ok
[10:40] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: it has nothing to do with it, I think
[10:40] <fyyrest0rm> ?
[10:40] <tari> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:41] <Jucato> err.. sorry I didn't understand your question...
[10:41] <fyyrest0rm> lol
[10:41] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[10:41] <fyyrest0rm> my monitor is a bit fuzzy..i'm trying to read the command in teh topic
[10:41] <fyyrest0rm> so it is a : then?
[10:41] <Jucato> yep
[10:41] <Jucato> 1:1.0.2
[10:41] <fyyrest0rm> k..just looked wierd to have a : in a filename
[10:41] <Jucato> it's actually not a filename, I think
[10:42] <fyyrest0rm> ahh
[10:42] <fyyrest0rm> so run that, then redo the nvidia-xconfig?
[10:42] <Jucato> uhuh
[10:42] <Jucato> then restart X again
[10:42] <fyyrest0rm> k
[10:44] <fyyrest0rm> errr
[10:44] <fyyrest0rm> "couldn't find package xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[10:45] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: that was an equal sign "=" after the word "core"
[10:45] <fyyrest0rm> ahh
[10:45] <fyyrest0rm> told ya the monitor was fuzzy lol
[10:46] <fyyrest0rm> woot
[10:47] <liouncourt> hello
[10:47] <liouncourt> i`m a newbie on linux
[10:47] <liouncourt> and i need some help
[10:48] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: well?
[10:48] <liouncourt> can someone help me?
[10:48] <trpr_> liouncourt: we can try. whats your question?
[10:48] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: that did it :)
[10:48] <liouncourt> i have kubuntu
[10:48] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: glad it's finally fixed :-D
[10:48] <Jucato> !seen tk
[10:48] <ubotu> tk is on IRC right now!
[10:48] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: me too lol..thanks
[10:48] <liouncourt> and i can`t use add remove
[10:49] <tk> err, sup Jucato?
[10:49] <Jucato> hm.... the sky? ^_^
[10:49] <liouncourt> how i can make update?
[10:49] <tk> heh
[10:50] <Jucato> Advisory Warning: Don't perform the update on xserver-xorg-core yet...
[10:50] <liouncourt> i read faq and there they say to use add remove
[10:50] <fyyrest0rm> hehe
[10:50] <liouncourt> but on my kubuntu i see update but i can use theme
[10:51] <liouncourt> any ideea?
[10:51] <Jucato> otherwise, you will experience what I dub as Linux's BSOH
[10:51] <Jucato> the Black Screen of Hell!!!
[10:51] <trpr_> liouncourt: you mean adding / removing software? KMenu->System->Adept is a nice gui for handling that stuff
[10:52] <trpr_> liouncourt: otherwise i am not sure i understand
[10:52] <Jucato> the Add/Remove Programs is.... crippled.... inadept... help me think of a "kind" word...
[10:52] <Jucato> liouncourt: ok, let's try this
[10:52] <liouncourt> say
[10:53] <Jucato> liouncourt: Is this a new installation of Kubuntu?
[10:53] <liouncourt> file:///home/liouncourt/Desktop/snapshot1.png
[10:53] <liouncourt> yes
[10:54] <liouncourt> and when i install i need to unplug the cable of network
[10:54] <liouncourt> because he try to connect to server
[10:54] <liouncourt> but i have an pppoe with pass and user
[10:54] <__osh__> Is there a magnet-link feature in ktorrent?
[10:55] <liouncourt> after install i plug the internet cable
[10:55] <liouncourt> i config pppoe
[10:55] <liouncourt> but i can make updates
[10:55] <Jucato> liouncourt: ok, I think I get the picture
[10:55] <trpr_> Jucato: he needs to fill his sources.list, ya?
[10:56] <liouncourt> so you have any ideea what it is?
[10:56] <Jucato> he just needs to enable them
[10:56] <liouncourt> i think
[10:56] <liouncourt> but how
[10:56] <liouncourt> ?
[10:56] <Jucato> liouncourt: ok, first go to K Menu > System > and launch Adept (Package Manager)
[10:56] <liouncourt> ok
[10:56] <liouncourt> i do this
[10:57] <liouncourt> done
[10:57] <Jucato> now, go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[10:57] <liouncourt> k
[10:57] <liouncourt> done
[10:57] <Jucato> now, right click on every line that starts with "deb" (not with "deb-src") and right-click on those and select "Enable"
[10:57] <Jucato> EXCEPT those lines with "dapper-backports"
[10:59] <liouncourt> done
[10:59] <liouncourt> dapper-backports i enable them?
[11:00] <Jucato> liouncourt: no. they're useless (for now)
[11:00] <liouncourt> k
[11:00] <liouncourt> done
[11:00] <Jucato> ok, click on Apply (at the bottom), then on "Fetch Updates" (at the top)
[11:00] <liouncourt> downloading something..........
[11:00] <liouncourt> ] :)
[11:01] <Jucato> yep
[11:01] <Jucato> just wait for it to finish
[11:01] <satempler> is the xorg update fixed yet
[11:01] <liouncourt> k
[11:01] <liouncourt> why he don`t do this from first time?
[11:01] <Jucato> satempler: I don't think so... too scared to check...
[11:01] <satempler> lol
[11:01] <Jucato> liouncourt: because you didn't have an interenet connection when you installed Kubuntu
[11:01] <satempler> to scared to reboot my self just found out on digg
[11:01] <liouncourt> aha
[11:01] <liouncourt> k
[11:02] <satempler> I already have it i suppose
[11:02] <liouncourt> done
[11:02] <satempler> the broke package
[11:02] <liouncourt> now i have so many "not installed"
[11:02] <liouncourt> what i do?
[11:02] <Jucato> liouncourt: er... have fun?
[11:03] <liouncourt> now i can make updates/
[11:03] <liouncourt> ?
[11:03] <Jucato> liouncourt: those "not installed" are the packages that are available from the online repositories.
[11:03] <liouncourt> aha
[11:03] <liouncourt> k
[11:03] <Jucato> liouncourt: you just did, when you pressed Fetch Updates
[11:03] <liouncourt> from now i can handle?
[11:03] <liouncourt> thanks very much
[11:04] <Jucato> liouncourt: probably :-D
[11:04] <liouncourt> i use ubuntu in the past...........
[11:04] <Jucato> liouncourt: you might want to take a peek at the Kubuntu Desktop Guide  in "Help"
[11:04] <liouncourt> but this is the most "beautiful" release
[11:04] <liouncourt> :)
[11:04] <Jucato> very nice and simple document, made with new users in mind
[11:05] <liouncourt> i go to eat
[11:05] <Jucato> ok. bon apetit
[11:05] <liouncourt> thanks again
[11:05] <liouncourt> where are you from?
[11:05] <liouncourt> i`m from romania
[11:05] <Jucato> Philippines ehehe!
[11:06] <fyyrest0rm> any idea why its not remembering my file associations? ie: i right-click an mp3, open with, choose a program, check "always use this" and the next time its back to using amarok again lol
[11:06] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: try changing the File Association from Konqueror > Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > File Associations options
[11:08] <fyyrest0rm> yup
[11:08] <fyyrest0rm> one of these days i'll get this all right and stop being a pest hehe
[11:08] <Jucato> you're not a pest :-D
[11:08] <fyyrest0rm> now i gotta try to get world of warcraft to run..i'm sure THAT'S gonna be fun
[11:09] <Jucato> hehehe! good luck!
[11:10] <fyyrest0rm> hmm...someone in here earlier told me how to fix the hostname resolving thing but i forget what it was now lol
[11:10] <fyyrest0rm> had something to do with adding "wins" into a file somewhere so it would resolve the hostnames on my network
[11:11] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: what program are you using to chat? Konversation?
[11:11] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: yeah
[11:12] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: Try pressing Ctrl+O to open your  log file for this channel (it will open in a new tab)
[11:13] <Jucato> then you Ctrl+F to search within that log file
[11:13] <fyyrest0rm> it won't be there..i re-installed earlier because i completely borked my system lol
[11:13] <Jucato> and completely overwrote your /home directory?
[11:13] <fyyrest0rm> trying to get the nvidia thing working and was pointed to a site that had an automatic script thing that didn't work so well
[11:14] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: yeah..i had to format and reinstall kubuntu completely
[11:14] <jende> Has anyone XAMPP on his machine running?
[11:15] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: next time, you might want to put your /home directory on a separate partition so that you can install/reinstall without messing up your data/settings...
[11:15] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: good idea :)
[11:17] <jende> Has anyone XAMPP on his machine running?
[11:18] <kameron> in irssi, does anyone know how to switch between two different chanels?
[11:18] <_rince_> C-n C-p
[11:18] <_rince_> next and previous
[11:19] <kameron> sweet, thanks _rince_
[11:19] <Jucato> kameron: or Alt+<Window Number>
[11:19] <_rince_> and Alt-<number> jumps directly to channel in window<number>
[11:19] <sleeptyper> how about alt-sidearrow ?
[11:19] <_rince_> try it ;)
[11:20] <sleeptyper> like in konversation
[11:20] <_rince_> for me it sends a control-character
[11:20] <_rince_> what is konversation?
[11:20] <Jucato> Konversation: KDE IRC Client
[11:20] <sleeptyper> KDE irc proggie
[11:20] <Jucato> !konversation
[11:20] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[11:21] <kameron> so i guess there's a serious xorg bug with the recent update.
[11:21] <_rince_> won't work with scree i guess ... that's not an option :)
[11:21] <kameron> i'm not really in the loop of ubuntu lately.. too busy. :P
[11:21] <_rince_> screen
[11:21] <Jucato> kameron: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[11:21] <Jucato> kameron: you can't get X started because of the update?
[11:22] <kameron> Jucato: yeah
[11:22] <Jucato> kameron: do this to downgrade to the previous working version: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[11:24] <_rince_> o_O so i better not shutdown X atm?
[11:24] <Jucato> _rince_: did you perform today's upgrade?
[11:24] <kameron> Jucato: yeah, i figured that out.
[11:24] <kameron> if only i could copy and paste from the terminal!
[11:24] <_rince_> a few minutes ago, yes
[11:24] <Jucato> then just downgrade using that command...
[11:24] <_rince_> mhmm
[11:24] <Jucato> kameron: ehehe no shortcuts... type it ^_^
[11:25] <kameron> pretty much, grr.
[11:25] <gebruiker123> HELP MY PC WON'T SHUTDOWN AUTOMATICLY THAT"S IT REACHES SHUTDOWN BUT IT DOESN"T GO AUTOMATICLY OFF!?!?! HELP!!
[11:25] <_rince_> kameron: screen can copy/paste :)
[11:25] <Jucato> can screen run without X?
[11:25] <kameron> thanks _rince_ :P
[11:25] <_rince_> of course
[11:25] <Jucato> I've been hearing this "screen" for quite some time now...
[11:25] <_rince_> screen has nothing to do with X at all
[11:26] <_rince_> it's a terminal multiplexer ... if you want to put it that way
[11:26] <kameron> _rince_: ... wait, how do i use screen? i'm just reading the man on it now.
[11:27] <Jucato> Linux.com just so very recently posted this article about screen. I'm still reading it
[11:27] <_rince_> kameron: that's good start, and there are many tutorials online
[11:27] <Jucato> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/14/1945249
[11:27] <Jucato> looks like "screen" is the rave these days...
[11:27] <_rince_> "these days"?
[11:27] <_rince_> i think i use it for about 5 years now
[11:27] <_rince_> and i'm not the first ;)
[11:27] <Jucato> well, I've only been hearing it a lot recently
[11:28] <Jucato> and I mean, a lot...
[11:29] <martin____> hi!
[11:29] <Jucato> hi
[11:29] <martin____> nothing interesting to say just trying konversation
[11:29] <Jucato> lol
[11:29] <martin____> is quite nice , another glad surprise from these guys from kde
[11:30] <gebruiker123> My pc won't turn of automaticly why not?
[11:30] <martin____> you mean "turn off"
[11:30] <martin____> ?
[11:31] <fyyrest0rm> geez
[11:31] <fyyrest0rm> freakin adept manager did an xorg upgrade for me again *sigh*
[11:31] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: err... it won't upgrade unless you click on "Upgrade"....
[11:32] <fyyrest0rm> umm..hehe
[11:32] <fyyrest0rm> ooops?
[11:32] <satempler> my laptops volume keys work in ubuntu what do I need to get them to work in kubuntu
[11:32] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[11:32] <fyyrest0rm> i was trying to install wine through adept..i clicked the "complete upgrade" button..and saw it upgrading xorg
[11:34] <neuron_> hello guys
[11:34] <neuron_> i got a problem
[11:34] <neuron_> ive just updated the X server trough Adept, and kdm doesnt seem to start now
[11:34] <fyyrest0rm> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[11:34] <fyyrest0rm> lol
[11:34] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[11:35] <neuron_> the old one?
[11:35] <neuron_> thanks :P
[11:35] <Jucato> that will downgrade to the older ne
[11:35] <Jucato> one*
[11:35] <neuron_> im not the only one am i?
[11:35] <fyyrest0rm> <----
[11:35] <neuron_> heh
[11:35] <Jucato> it's all over the known Ubuntu world
[11:35] <Shan_> KUbuntu is behaving weirdly..
[11:35] <fyyrest0rm> and a couple others since i've been in here
[11:35] <neuron_> no shit :D
[11:35] <Shan_> Firefox and some of the applications wont launch
[11:35] <neuron_> hehe
[11:35] <neuron_> thanks
[11:35] <Shan_> i tried launching them thru console but it gives me an errror
[11:35] <Jucato> just drop by Ubuntuforums.org and KubuntuForums.Net to see how much :-D
[11:35] <neuron_> tried google first but kinda hard with links
[11:36] <neuron_> dont have a X server atm, so.. :D
[11:36] <Shan_> (firefox-bin:8617): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:36] <Jucato> neuron_: you're using irssi?
[11:36] <neuron_> yeah
[11:36] <kameron> thanks for the help, back to X now hopefully.
[11:36] <Jucato> ehehe! write down the command... there's no copy paste.. ^_^
[11:37] <Jucato> thank goodness for virtual consoles/terminals!
[11:37] <neuron_> i know jucato :P
[11:37] <neuron_> thats what im doing right now :P
[11:37] <neuron_> hehe
[11:37] <Jucato> ehehe
[11:37] <juanfrancisco> lol
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> you can copy and paste with screen perfectly (I thought that was what you were talking about)
[11:37] <fyyrest0rm> whew
[11:37] <fyyrest0rm> is there something i can do to tell it to ignore that update?
[11:37] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: don't install anything? ehehe
[11:37] <Jucato> kidding
[11:38] <neuron_> fyyrest0rm: i guess there wil be a update pretty soon
[11:38] <neuron_> maybe even today :D
[11:38] <Jucato> it has almost been 12 hours neuron_....
[11:38] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: yeah it did..i just redid the cmd and drivers and restarted x again
[11:38] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: what are you using? Adept or Add/Remove Programs?
[11:38] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: adept
[11:39] <Shan_> Firefox is giving me an error.. and Konqueror is giving loads of warnings
[11:39] <Shan_> wtf
[11:40] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: xserver-xorg-core won't be marked unless you click on Full Upgrade...
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> echo xserver-xorg-core hold | dpkg --set-selections (as root - from sudo -i)
[11:41] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: there's a warning sitting in the "tray?" and also a "complete upgrade" button in adept..thats what i clicked thinking i was telling it to do winex
[11:41] <Joeboy> Is there a known problem with kubuntu and the latest x update?
[11:41] <Joeboy> Cos I just updated and everything broke
[11:41] <fyyrest0rm> joeboy: yeah
[11:41] <Shan_> anyone?
[11:41] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: anyway, before you click on Apply Changes, click on Preview Changes first, the right-click on xserver-xorg-core if it's there, then choose Cancel Changes
[11:42] <fyyrest0rm> ahhh cool
[11:42] <Jucato> Joeboy: yeah.. very well known...
[11:42] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: just ignore that icon in system tray
[11:42] <Joeboy> Can someone summarise what I need to know / do?
[11:42] <Jucato> Joeboy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[11:42] <Jucato> to downgrade...
[11:43] <deb> Shan_: rename the .mozilla or .mozilla-firefox folder under ur home directory and retart firefox.
[11:43] <Joeboy> Jucato: doing that now, thanks
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> What version is the update trying to install ?
[11:44] <Shan_> deb, rename to anything?
[11:44] <D4rkly> which packages do i need to build wine ??
[11:44] <deb> Shan_: yes .
[11:44] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 I think
[11:45] <Shan_> deb, (firefox-bin:9245): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[11:45] <D4rkly> E: Build-dependencies for wine could not be satisfied.
[11:45] <Joeboy> X is working again \o/ thanks guys
[11:45] <Jucato> hm... let me test this...
[11:45] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[11:46] <Joeboy> Jucato: that too
[11:46] <Jucato> ehehe
[11:46] <deb> Shan_: install libgtk and libgtk-common
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: When was that ? - I want verticle splits then I think irssi would be perfect
[11:48] <Jucato> when was what? the #ubuntu-classroom class about irssi? Aug. 5 ang 7
[11:48] <Jucato> but it was very very basic
[11:49] <pichi_> hello
[11:49] <Jucato> hi
[11:49] <D4rkly> how can i get wine working with -opengl ??
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> D4rkly: use the packages from budgetdedicated.com - install the nvidia drivers under wine (no chance without nvidia binary drivers)
[11:51] <Shan_> deb, thanx
[11:52] <deb> Shan_: working ?
[11:52] <Shan_> deb, just starting synaptic lol
[11:53] <Shan_> deb, they are installed but i'm marking them for reinstallation
[11:56] <Shan_> deb, nope still wont work
[11:57] <fyyrest0rm> lol ok now...i put my wow cd in, pops up a box, i tell it to open in new window, I get an error saying "malformed url" and then nothing?
[11:58] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: blank CD?
[11:58] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: no..world of warcraft cd
[11:58] <Jucato> err...
[11:58] <Jucato> oh, but you can still see the contents of the CD? (media:/)
[11:59] <fyyrest0rm> nope
[11:59] <fyyrest0rm> showing blank
[11:59] <Shan_> what does this mean? --> kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting.
[11:59] <Shan_>  <---
[12:00] <Shan_> i am getting this for a lot of applications
[12:02] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: created a new dvdrom device link on desktop and pointed it to /media/cdrom0 and that way work.. but i go straight to /media/cdrom0 it's blank *shrug*
[12:03] <Jucato> weird...
[12:03] <fyyrest0rm> yeah..funs just beginning to..apparently i have to copy all 5 discs to a directory on the HDD in order to get wine to install it lol
[12:09] <arepie> i never realized lin city is in adept manager reps.. :D
[12:09] <Jucato> ehehe
[12:10] <Jucato> you'd be surprised at what can and cannot be found in Ubuntu's repositories...
[12:10] <arepie> why i can't compiler c++ with gcc ?
[12:10] <abattoir> arepie: because gcc is packaged as a c compiler :)
[12:10] <arepie> why must use g++ ?
[12:10] <Jucato> GCC = GNU C Compiler
[12:11] <arepie> i see..
[12:11] <abattoir> Jucato: GCC=GNU compiler collection ;)
[12:11] <arepie> it's been a week i'm searching for a conclusion on how to compile c++ code.. at last, someone teach me use g++
[12:11] <Jucato> ohh...
[12:11] <Jucato> sorry, my bad
[12:11] <Jucato> ^_^
[12:13] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[12:22] <jujimufu_> hey
[12:22] <jujimufu> hey
[12:23] <Jucato> hey
[12:23] <stoic> hey
[12:23] <jujimufu> I need help re-enabling 3d acceleration on my i915
[12:23] <jujimufu> :)
[12:23] <jujimufu> we will
[12:23] <stoic> lol
[12:23] <jujimufu> yesterday, 3d acceleration was just fine, glxinfo gave "direct acceleration: Yes", but not it gives "No" again.
[12:26] <ketsugi> Hi, after I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4 via the Kubuntu repos, I get the KDE Configuration Wizard every time I login. How do I stop it from showing up any more?
[12:27] <stoic> delete it
[12:27] <stoic> yes thats right delete KDE
[12:27] <Jucato> sudo apt-get remove kpersonalizer
[12:27] <jujimufu> ketsugi: open kcontrol (Alt+F2, and write kcontrol), and go to KDE Components -> Session Manager -> Start with an Empty Session
[12:27] <stoic> and i promise it wont show up again
[12:28] <Jucato> jujimufu: I think it still shows up even if you start with an empty session. It's a bug...
[12:28] <ketsugi> jujimufu: I already have that
[12:28] <stoic> brb
[12:28] <Jucato> I don't even know why kpersonalizer was installed anyway...
[12:28] <Jucato> ketsugi: try "sudo apt-get remove kpersonalizer"
[12:28] <ketsugi> Yup, I'm doing that now
[12:28] <ketsugi> Thanks
[12:29] <ketsugi> Next: is there any way to control what programs/documents get recognised by Katapult?
[12:29] <ketsugi> For some reason it doesn't know Konsole
[12:29] <ketsugi> or some other programs that I have installed
[12:30] <stanks> hi
[12:30] <Jucato> ketsugi: for programs, it will scan what is only found in K Menu.
[12:30] <ketsugi> But Konsole is definitely in the K Menu, as is Azureus
[12:30] <ketsugi> but Katapult doesn't recognise either of those
[12:30] <redblades> Hi, I just installed Audacity, but I can't work out how to open it.
[12:31] <redblades> It's not in any of the menus and I get errors when I try to open it through konsole.
[12:31] <Jucato> you can add/remove "catalogs" for Katapult by pressing Ctrl+C and selecting "Configure Katapult" once Katapult is launched/visible...
[12:31] <stanks> can i safely remove *-dev packages after i compile from source app?
[12:36] <redblades> Anyone? I can't seem to work out how to run Audacity...
[12:39] <redblades> Never mind...
[12:40] <deb> redblades: try killing esd if it's running and start audacity
[12:42] <redblades> deb, it's okay, I got it, with gksudo
[12:44] <jujimufu> ok
[12:44] <redblades> deb, I found another issue... I can't recorrd.
[12:44] <jujimufu> so, I still can't enable direct rendering
[12:44] <jujimufu> drivers i915 and intel_agp are loading normally
[12:44] <jujimufu> and it still doesn'twork
[12:47] <TheGateKeeper> is xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 the one that is breaking everyone's system???
[12:47] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: yep
[12:49] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: ok thanx, just come through on the updates, don't think I will bother with that one. are they working on a fix do you know?
[12:50] <Jucato> yep. they're updating the mirrors as we speak to make the fix available
[12:51] <ketsugi> How do I configure the default handler application for a file type?
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> have a different version number?
[12:51] <jujimufu> ketsugi: right click, "Open With" and then choose the application, and check the box "always open this kind of files with the selected program"
[12:52] <Jucato> ketsugi: in Konqueror, go to Settings menu > Configure Konqueror > File Associations options, if jujimufu's tip doesn't work...
[12:52] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[12:53] <ketsugi> Jucato: thanks
[12:53] <TheGateKeeper> thanx Jucato :-) I will wait till 10.4 appears in the updates
[12:55] <darkwizzard> hello all
[12:55] <darkwizzard> please help
[12:55] <psb154> did an xorg update now my X is broke :-(
[12:55] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[12:55] <darkwizzard> I just updated
[12:55] <darkwizzard> and xorg broke
[12:55] <ketsugi> Does Kubuntu have a graphical deb installer like gdebi for Gnome?
[12:55] <Jucato> ketsugi: yep
[12:55] <Jucato> ketsugi: just right-click on the .deb package
[12:56] <fyyrest0rm> how can i make my open windows only appear on the desktop i open them on, not all on the taskbar?
[12:56] <ketsugi> What's it called? I just want to associate with .deb in Konqueror
[12:56] <psb154> Jucato, thanks.
[12:56] <darkwizzard> thanks guys
[12:56] <darkwizzard> it should work no
[12:56] <darkwizzard> w
[12:56] <ketsugi> Oh hm, it's built into Konqueror?
[12:57] <jujimufu> anyone can help me reenable direct rendering?
[12:57] <Jucato> ketsugi: it's a Konqueror service menu (context menu, right-click menu...)
[12:57] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: right-click on the panel and select Configure Panel, go the Taskbar options
[12:57] <ketsugi> Yeah, I'm trying to find out how to do it so that Konqueror opens that if I download a deb from a website
[12:57] <ketsugi> Instead of automatically opening gdebi instead
[12:57] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: then uncheck "show windows from all destkops"
[12:58] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: thanks :)
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper> anyone using 3.5.4?
[12:58] <Jucato> ketsugi: I'm not sure. Have you tried right-clicking on the .deb link in the website?
[12:59] <jujimufu> TheGateKeeper: me
[12:59] <jujimufu> TheGateKeeper: oops, mistake. I am using 3.5.2
[01:00] <stoic> mwahahaha i just turned my desktop celtic
[01:00] <Jucato> ketsugi: AFAIK, there is no gdebi counterpart installed by default in Kubuntu. But KPackage, the original KDE Package Manager, comes close...
[01:00] <TheGateKeeper> does 3.5.4 open applications quicker than say 3.5.2?
[01:01] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I haven't noticed. The bugs distract me from noticing...
[01:01] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.3 is a bit faster, though
[01:03] <jujimufu> So, 3.5.4 is unstable, 3.5.3 is stable?
[01:03] <octan> anyone know xbindkey ?
[01:03] <TheGateKeeper> I have just put Arch linux on my test box, I don't know if it's my imagination or what, but KDE on Arch seems to open windows noticable quicker than I remember either dapper or breezy doing so
[01:03] <octan> i need some help with setting up a config file
[01:03] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.4 on Kubuntu (only on Kubuntu) is a bit buggy. KDE 3.5.3 is more stable...
[01:03] <Jucato> I could live with most of the bugs in KDE 3.5.4 though
[01:04] <octan> "xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\[Alt_L] \[Left] ""
[01:04] <octan>   m:0x10 + b:9
[01:04] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: heh, Arch will always be faster...
[01:04] <octan> what does that do?
[01:05] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: how so? I have heard people also comment that PCLinuxOS is quicker than kubuntu too
[01:05] <octan> archlinux is a pize of crap hobby distro.. i have used it... and its only 1/2 as good ans ubuntu. :)
[01:05] <octan> *kubuntu
[01:05] <fyyrest0rm> anyone know where wine installs?
[01:05] <jujimufu> TheGateKeeper: archlinux is indeed very quick. And the package management system is also pretty nice.
[01:05] <Jucato> Arch is basically Gentoo made easy, so it's very much optimized for a specific system
[01:06] <grothesk> hi
[01:06] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: what do you mean?
[01:06] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I still have to see for myself about PCLinuxOS, though
[01:06] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i did an apt-get of wine from winehq..trying to find where it installed to..need to edit a file
[01:06] <TheGateKeeper> jujimufu: Jucato thanx guys that explains it
[01:07] <grothesk> When trying to build dazuko-module I get this error from moduleassisstant: /usr/share/modass/packages/generic.sh: line 70: debian/rules: No such file or directory
[01:07] <grothesk> Anyone knows what I'm missing?
[01:07] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: err.. what file to be exact?
[01:07] <TheGateKeeper> octan: I am just having a play with it, see where it goes :-)
[01:07] <stoic> I think it intsalls in your home folder, (i think it does dont quote me on that)
[01:07] <jujimufu> !dri
[01:07] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:07] <jujimufu> thanks a lot ubotu
[01:07] <jujimufu> meh
[01:07] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i just installed world of warcraft..need to edit a file it installed (Config.wtf)
[01:07] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: while the executable file of wine will be in /usr/bin/, other parts will be found else where.
[01:07] <stoic> should be a hidden folder
[01:08] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: aaaah. you meant "where does wine install things"?
[01:08] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: its the "other parts" i'm looking for i guess..wherever it puts the C:/ etc
[01:08] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: lol yes
[01:08] <stoic> home
[01:08] <octan> TheGateKeeper, i need to set button 9 on mouse to Ctrl Alt left
[01:08] <grothesk> fyyrest0rm: in .wine in your home.
[01:08] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: I misinterpreted it to "where is wine installed"
[01:08] <fyyrest0rm> thank you
[01:08] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: in a hidden directory in home
[01:08] <Jucato> ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files I guess
[01:09] <octan> TheGateKeeper, i guess m; means mouse but what is that 0x10 stuff?
[01:09] <grothesk> That is what line 70 actually says:      "$@"
[01:09] <stoic> thats where it installed mine, though it got pissed off while i was trying to install c&c generals, so i deleted it
[01:11] <octan> brbr
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> 0x10 is hexadecimal, we count in base 10, computers count in base 2, and can also be expressed in base 16 hexadecimal
[01:11] <octan> yea, and octal 8 :)
[01:11] <Jucato>  @_@
[01:11] <Jucato> octan 8....
[01:11] <octan> whatever :P
[01:12] <octan> TheGateKeeper, do you know this xbindkeys stuff?
[01:12] <TheGateKeeper> not really but I can take a quick look
[01:13] <octan> 0x10 = 17 des?
[01:13] <stoic> would anyone know of a place online where i can order an AGP slot to sotter onto my mother board, dell was so kind as to rip it out
[01:15] <TheGateKeeper> octan: 0x10 = 16
[01:15] <octan> so =0F = 15
[01:15] <TheGateKeeper> octan: 0x11 = 17
[01:15] <octan> ok,
[01:15] <TheGateKeeper> octan: correct :-)
[01:16] <octan> however,, why is it m:0x10 in that xbindkey stuff i pasted earlyer?
[01:16] <anaskius> !finnish
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finnish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <octan> and what does it do?
[01:16] <TheGateKeeper> octan: they just look like keycodes to me, every key on you keyboard has a keycode
[01:17] <octan> ok what is this then=?  -xsendevent -text "\[Alt_L] \[Left] ""
[01:18] <jujimufu> so, in glxinfo, with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose and MESA_DEBUG=verbose, I get the following error: libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false . Any ideas?
[01:19] <anaskius> !finnish support
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finnish support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <TheGateKeeper> octan: that looks like a macro of some sort
[01:19] <Jucato> !fi
[01:19] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[01:20] <Jucato> anaskius: was that what you were looking for?
[01:20] <pipe_> hola
[01:20] <pipe_> que tal?
[01:20] <jujimufu> pipe_: hola!
[01:20] <jujimufu> pipe_: como estas?
[01:20] <pipe_> muy bien y tu
[01:21] <jujimufu> pipe_: bien, gracias :)
[01:21] <anaskius> found it allready...thanks
[01:21] <TheGateKeeper> octan: The format of a command line is: "command to start" associated key so "xbindkeys_show" control+shift + q would bring up xbindkeys_show
[01:21] <jujimufu> pipe_: soy espanol?
[01:21] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[01:21] <pipe_> me lo preguntas o me lo dices?
[01:21] <Jucato> bye!!
[01:21] <Jucato> i mean, away...
[01:22] <octan> TheGateKeeper, so do you know how i might do it when i want button 9 to do ctrl alt left
[01:22] <octan> button 9 on my mouse
[01:22] <jujimufu> disculpe :) usted espanol?
[01:22] <jujimufu> pipe_: ^
[01:24] <TheGateKeeper> octan: you have a mouse with 9 buttons??
[01:24] <octan> 15 :)
[01:24] <pipe_> jujimufu soy espaol si
[01:24] <vursitis> Hello
[01:24] <jujimufu> pipe_: apesadumbrado para mi espanol, pero no hablo espanol realmente :D
[01:25] <pipe_> do you speak english?
[01:25] <jujimufu> pipe_: yeah :)
[01:25] <pipe_> ok
[01:25] <vursitis> o, for a second there i thought i was in the spanish channel
[01:25] <jujimufu> vursitis: lol :D :D
[01:25] <vursitis> lol
[01:25] <jujimufu> pipe_: soy griego :)
[01:25] <pipe_> where are you from?
[01:25] <jujimufu> ah :D
[01:26] <Vursitis> Phoenix, and you two?
[01:26] <jujimufu> omg he is capitalised!
[01:26] <Vursitis> lol
[01:26] <pipe_> im in logroo, spain
[01:27] <pipe_> i dont speak english very well
[01:27] <Vursitis> Thats cool, always wanted to go there
[01:27] <TheGateKeeper> octan: not sure how you would do that, I could see ----> myFunction b:9 where my function is something xterm or an executable bash file that you made
[01:27] <Vursitis> well actualy... I have kinda wanted to travel all over europe
[01:28] <jujimufu> pipe_: it's ok :) I don't speak spanish very well :) No hablo espanol bien :)
[01:28] <pipe_> yo tampoco
[01:28] <jujimufu> Vursitis: interrail, ever heard of it?
[01:28] <pipe_> y de que hablais?
[01:28] <pipe_> si se puede saber...
[01:29] <Vursitis> No I have not, where is it located?
[01:29] <octan> TheGateKeeper i thought b:9 meant button 9
[01:29] <TheGateKeeper> octan: it does I think looking at this: http://hocwp.free.fr/xbindkeys/xbindkeysrc_d
[01:30] <pipe_> do you understand me?
[01:30] <jujimufu> pipe_: not very well, sorry :P
[01:30] <pipe_> ok
[01:30] <jujimufu> pipe_: you asked me what languages I speak?
[01:31] <pipe_> actually im study english and french
[01:31] <TheGateKeeper> pipe_: do you need the spanish channel?
[01:31] <pipe_> no
[01:31] <TheGateKeeper> pipe_: just checking :-)
[01:31] <pipe_> english is the best language
[01:32] <Vursitis> Why?
[01:32] <pipe_> im spanish but the enlish have more words, technicals words...
[01:32] <pipe_> *english
[01:32] <TheGateKeeper> I need to start learning spanish, but haven't motivated myself enough yet lol
[01:33] <Vursitis> Algn otro motivo?
[01:33] <pipe_> algun otro motivo por el que piense que el ingles es mejor?
[01:33] <pipe_> no se tio, en la comunidad hacker hablais mas en ingles
[01:34] <pipe_> y yo la verdad no estudio nada pero gracias a internet aprobe ingles
[01:34] <gnomefreak> pipe_: join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[01:34] <pipe_> (thanks internet i passed english xD)
[01:34] <jujimufu> gnomefreak: he just stated above that he doesn't wnat to :)
[01:35] <pipe_> i prefer this channel thanks
[01:35] <gnomefreak> #lubuntu-es even
[01:35] <gnomefreak> pipe_: than stick with english in here
[01:35] <pipe_> repeat please
[01:35] <jujimufu> gnomefreak: let the guy alone :)
[01:36] <Vursitis> esto es bastante chulo, y actualy engao y uso a uno de aquellos traductores en lnea libres
[01:36] <jujimufu> pipe_: gnomefreak dice si usted permanece aqu, hable ingls, o bien vaya al #lubuntu-es
[01:37] <pipe_> ok
[01:37] <jujimufu> Vursitis: oh, come on :) I speak a few spanish, but need the translator to understand more complicated phrases :\
[01:37] <pipe_> but i tell you that i dont speak english very well
[01:37] <Vursitis> lol i dont understand any spanish i am cheating 100% here
[01:38] <catarro> how can i know the version of kde i installed ?
[01:38] <catarro> i use kubuntu
[01:38] <trpr_> ah. thats why it reads so mechanically
[01:38] <gnomefreak> catarro: apt-cache policy kdebase
[01:38] <jujimufu> catarro: press Alt+F2 -> write kcontrol and see what it says. It most probably will be 3.5.2, if it's kubuntu dapper
[01:38] <pipe_> only you speak english?
[01:39] <pipe_> everybody?
[01:39] <catarro> thank you so much both
[01:39] <jujimufu> catarro: no prob :)
[01:39] <pipe_> because in europe we study three languages in the scholl
[01:39] <Vursitis> no, i speak german, writing and spelling on the other hand is a diffrent story
[01:39] <pipe_> *school
[01:39] <elden> hiya guys
[01:39] <pipe_> what is hiya?
[01:40] <pipe_> in spanish
[01:40] <jujimufu> pipe_: like, hola :)
[01:40] <pipe_> hazme un favor
[01:40] <pipe_> todos
[01:40] <jujimufu> pipe_: que favor?
[01:40] <pipe_> mejor
[01:41] <pipe_> ahora os paso una URL
[01:41] <alf___> hi
[01:41] <pipe_> para que veais a unos amigos de espaa
[01:41] <pipe_> ok?
[01:41] <jujimufu> pipe_: que amigo?
[01:41] <jaffa_> pipe ek verstaan jou nie
[01:41] <jaffa_> jammer my brew
[01:42] <pipe_> amigos mios
[01:42] <alf___> did anyone have a problem with xorg since the last update ?
[01:42] <pipe_> my friends
[01:42] <pipe_> in logroo
[01:42] <alf___> I have no X anymore
[01:42] <elden> what xorg?
[01:42] <Vursitis> nope
[01:42] <elden> the latest?
[01:42] <jujimufu> pipe_: ok, que url?
[01:42] <jaffa_> no i didnt why did you?
[01:42] <alf___> elden: I don't know, I've made an update yesterday
[01:42] <pipe_> one moment
[01:43] <elden> i see
[01:43] <alf___> and I can't run X anymore
[01:43] <Hobbsee> alf___: yes, it's broken
[01:43] <elden> good thing i didn't updated it yet :p
 If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[01:43] <Hobbsee> there's a fix being sent to the archives now
[01:43] <jaffa_> juz replace it with the back up
[01:43] <alf___> thx
[01:44] <jaffa_> nevermind
[01:44] <gnomefreak> i just got like 22 emails about that X bug :(
[01:44] <thyko> is there an IRC chanel for DJs?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> only 2 from Hobbsee :)
[01:45] <jujimufu> thyko: yeah, but most probably in anoher serv er :)
[01:45] <Vursitis> gnite everyone, im leavin
[01:45] <alf___> and it's really hard to find and answer with lynx +
[01:45] <alf___> =)
[01:45] <Vursitis> or good bye to those of you located where its day
[01:45] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i didnt fix it :P
[01:46] <gnomefreak> i know
[01:46] <gnomefreak> i just got 2 more emails about it
[01:46] <gnomefreak> what did people use before GUI came out :(
[01:47] <jujimufu> brb
[01:47] <alf___> I wasn't born ;-)
[01:48] <umi> lo all
[01:49] <pipe_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ranXsYGxhHM
[01:49] <pipe_> see this video please
[01:50] <sc0tch> Hi, I had a quick install question, I have the Kismet Package from the repo installed, and I just downloaed the latest srouce tarball and compiled it, should I uninstall the original package before doing a make install from source?
[01:50] <Tm_T> pipe_: does it have anything to do with kubuntu?
[01:50] <umi> i have a new problem, apprently my NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0-7174 but my X module has version 1.0-8762? how do i resolve this?
[01:51] <pipe_> Tm_T sorry
[01:51] <Kabal> stupid video and OT
[01:51] <Tm_T> sc0tch: that's safe way to do, then you close out are cross installations ;)
[01:51] <Tm_T> I see
[01:51] <Tm_T> pipe_: heh, then you need to tell that to me in another channel ;)
[01:52] <sc0tch> ok, thanks Tm_T
[01:52] <umi> i tried downloading the nvidia driver straight from the site but it wont install cause it cant find nvidia.ko :S
[01:52] <Kabal> When I set Konqueror to view->viewmode->text mode some files are green in font.. ?
[01:53] <Tm_T> sc0tch: I just override install most of the time, but I also clean my mess ;)
[01:53] <Tm_T> umi: well, dapper?
[01:53] <Kabal> what does green files mean?
[01:53] <umi> yes i am on dapper if thats what you mean
[01:54] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[01:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:54] <Tm_T> ;)
[01:54] <umi> they were installed before
[01:54] <Tm_T> umi: have you seen that?
[01:54] <umi> i dont get why now there is a version mismatch
[01:54] <umi> i will check it now
[01:54] <Tm_T> me neither, simplest way is to install again I think
[01:55] <thyko> nothing
[01:55] <thyko> no dj channels out there
[01:56] <thyko> with more than two people
[01:57] <thyko> anyone know of any?
[01:57] <thyko> i need to find out about a certain mixer
[01:57] <jujimufu> pipe_: nice :D
[01:58] <octan> arr, help me pls.. i just upgraded xorg core something,, with adeptm,, however my X doesnt start up again,,
[01:58] <thyko> :O
[01:58] <octan> what shall i do?
[01:58] <thyko> nasty
[01:58] <gigen> :O
[01:58] <umi> anyone got the command handy for him?
[01:59] <umi> i am in CLI and got no copy/paste
[01:59] <Tm_T> octan: I see...
[01:59] <octan> on in irssi ;(
[01:59] <Tm_T> octan: are you registered freenode user?
[01:59] <octan> yes
[01:59] <Tm_T> good
 If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[02:00] <Tm_T> :)
[02:00] <Tm_T> damned
[02:00] <umi> :P
[02:00] <Tm_T> I was ready to see xorg log errors
[02:00] <octan> stop typing ts ou can read that
[02:00] <Tm_T> but nah ;(
[02:00] <Hobbsee> that one?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:00] <pichi_> re
[02:01] <Tm_T> octan: scroll with pageup(pagedown
[02:01] <Tm_T> whops
[02:01] <octan> ok
[02:01] <bnilsen> Clueless here.  Using either Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Xubuntu. (don't know which and even less about IRC)
[02:02] <umi> ty Tm_T, just needed re-install my restricted modules
[02:02] <Tm_T> umi: :)
[02:02] <umi> brb
[02:03] <octan> hey.. thxz guys'
[02:03] <vursitis> i just pissed off the entire windows chatroom...
[02:03] <Tm_T> vursitis: shame on you
[02:03] <vursitis> im back
[02:04] <jujimufu> guys, has anyone tried diet-coke and mentos?
[02:04] <bnilsen> Not possible octan.  Windows is the perfect potty.
[02:04] <vursitis> i just basicaly logged in and quencidentaly they said and i lost all of my info as soon as i logged in, said somthing along the lines of you should back up your information with an OS as unstable as that... and things just went downhill from there
[02:05] <jujimufu> can anyone help me re-enable direct rendering on intel i915?
[02:06] <vursitis> hmmm, i wonder if there is a mac channel
[02:06] <vursitis> brb
[02:08] <vursitis> hm... there's a suprise... there talking about drinking coffee
[02:12] <Ash-Fox> I should never of updated xserver, X just refuses to start a (EE) No devices detected. message :/
[02:12] <Tm_T> 15:00 < Hobbsee> <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[02:12] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: yes, its a known issue... see the title
[02:12] <abattoir> Ash-Fox: topic, sorry
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> How do you view te topic in irssi again?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> and now we see how many people dont read the topic
[02:13] <Tm_T> Ash-Fox: /topic
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> Thanks
[02:13] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: hehe, yes, so true
[02:13] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I read when I join in
[02:13] <Tm_T> but that happens couple times a year mostly so ...
[02:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> hehehehe joining alone solves the problem :D
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> Most of the topic is not visible in konversation or irssi (without trying specifically to see it) maybe anything important would be best in the first part of the topic
[02:14] <Tm_T> h3sp4wn: agreed
[02:14] <jujimufu> h3sp4wn: indeed :)
[02:14] <Ash-Fox> Isn't that just installing a old version of the xserver?
[02:14] <Vliegendehuiskat> it is
[02:14] <Tm_T> Ash-Fox: yes
[02:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> so why do we have an unstable update in a stable version?
[02:16] <Ash-Fox> Bad security update?
[02:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> prolly
[02:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> but why?
[02:17] <Ash-Fox> I can't tell you until I get xorg working
[02:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[02:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> but it has to be working on some machines?
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> Any enterprise customer who was paying for support of dapper would probably not be happy with that update
[02:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> indeed :P
[02:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> so how did it slip through?
[02:18] <Ash-Fox> Well, if the update works on some hardware, I can understand it getting passed. But if it doesn't work on any hardware.. Well, that's a different story :P
[02:19] <Ash-Fox> Heh, irssi is pretty neat actually
[02:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[02:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> fixing it now on my flaptop
[02:20] <_eckobar_> hi everybody
[02:21] <_eckobar_> does anybody know why the current-version of kde & amarok are in inofficial repositories?? why the are not in the main / normal repositories?
[02:22] <Ash-Fox> By the way, is there a way I can set the default kernel parameters for grub? Whenever I install a new kernel, it's always regenerating the menu.lst file, removing my customisations.
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> _eckobar_: because dapper-backports is not enabled
[02:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> _eckobar_: because they hav'nt made ti through testing yet?
[02:22] <Ash-Fox> eckobar, well, for one, the latest version of KDE doesn't have bluetooth kio_slave isn't working in the latest 'stable' of KDE.
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> Ash-Fox: set what you want in kopts (then when you run update-grub it will use those)
[02:23] <_eckobar_> h3sp4wn: what is dapper-backports?? didn't hear before
[02:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> eckobar: google on source-o-matic
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> _eckobar_: backports - but there is some reason it is not working (there are some regressions hence it cannot go into dapper-updates)
[02:24] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[02:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> _eckobar_: kubuntu.org packages are official enough for most people
[02:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway lets see if X is fixed over here now
[02:26] <_eckobar_> Vliegendehuiskat: so will the version 3.5.4 every be available from the official repository??
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> _eckobar_: when edgy is released
[02:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> probebly with edgy indeed
[02:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> I don't think they are gonna release 3.5.4 along with the current stable version (dapper)
[02:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> in the past even updates of firefox came after months
[02:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> but wouldn't the first step be to get that broken update out of the repo's?
[02:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> so why on earth is it still there?
[02:29] <_eckobar_> Vliegendehuiskat & h3sp4wn: have some problem with update to 3.5.4: update process is finished ok with the inofficial repository, but the fonts in GTK apps and some KDE apps are very fringy...... heard about some future problems with upgrade to 3.5.4. is it safe to use current version? and what can i do against fringy fonts??
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> does it break gnome or only kde
[02:30] <Vliegendehuiskat> the X update breaks both
[02:30] <Vliegendehuiskat> or at least i had both on my system!
[02:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> I was unable to reach em both
[02:31] <Tm_T> well, if X doesn't start, desktop doesn't matter
[02:31] <jott_> i can confirm this broken xorg-core package too... fun fun fun!
[02:31] <stoic> hello
[02:32] <jorik> what?
[02:33] <Vliegendehuiskat> Eckobar you can try to configure the fonts in KDE
[02:33] <Vliegendehuiskat> through Kontrol or something
[02:33] <Vliegendehuiskat> but that fringy font problem is something i never worked out when i came accross it
[02:33] <_eckobar_> Vliegendehuiskat: yeah, i did, but the still apear awful
[02:33] <jott_> _eckobar_: enable and disable the anti aliasing this should fix the gtk font issue..
[02:33] <jorik> jott_: i just upgraded xorg-core but didnt reboot since ... is it gonna be broken i have 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 now
[02:34] <jott_> jorik: so downgrade or don't reboot ;) .. or reboot to increase the body count ;p
[02:34] <_eckobar_> jott_: i tried also, but with no effect
[02:34] <Vliegendehuiskat> jorik please read the fucking topic
[02:35] <bimberi> !conduct
[02:35] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:36] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[02:36] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[02:36] <jorik> hey ff vriendelijk blijven he, ik zit al uren in dit kanaal ik ga het topic niet iedere keer lezen as ik een vraag stel (en konversation laat enkel de eerste regel zien). maar toch bedankt want mn volgende vraag ging zijn; hoe downgrade ik xorg-core
[02:36] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[02:36] <Vliegendehuiskat> dat staat int topic :P
[02:36] <Vliegendehuiskat> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:37] <jorik> idd, lol :p thx
[02:38] <stoic> does anyone in here know of a decent remote monitoring program?
[02:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway i'm off again to my own laptop
[02:38] <lou80> stoic what for?
[02:38] <stoic> besides ssh
[02:38] <exotic> hey all, need some plz, how to enable automatic login at startup?
[02:39] <stoic> i have a few roomates that are downloading things they shouldn't be and the connection is in my name...
[02:39] <lou80> :-0 that's what I was thing of...
[02:39] <stoic> i need controll of their computers while i am out of town
[02:40] <stoic> or at least i need the ability to be big brother for the weekend
[02:40] <stoic> and ssh only works in your local network
[02:40] <exotic> hey all, need some plz, how to enable automatic login at startup? any idea plz?
[02:41] <lou80> why not ssh server controlled over the internet?
[02:41] <stoic> again ssh server only works in your local network
[02:41] <stoic> ive tried
[02:41] <lou80> no it doesn't
[02:41] <stoic> tell me more...
[02:41] <jorik> exotic: goto configuration screen and look into the "login screen" (i dunno how it is in english i have it in dutch), there's an option there too auto-login a user
[02:42] <stoic> well actualy another important feature it needs is cross platform capability, one is using windows
[02:42] <exotic> jorik:thanx, i'll check this
[02:42] <bimberi> exotic: system -> admin -> login window, Security tab
[02:42] <lou80> well all you need to know is the ip address of your box, is it dynamic though?
[02:42] <gorus> could anybody point me to a good nvidia installation wiki or something
[02:42] <deb> exotic: try configuring KDM to automatically log in a perticular user .
[02:43] <bimberi> exotic: ignore me, that's for gnome sorry
[02:43] <gorus> just installed kubuntu .. everything was fine until i installed nvidia driver and changed xorg.conf to use "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[02:43] <lou80> stoic which machine do u want to monitor ? linux?
[02:43] <stoic> both linux and windows
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> stoic: Just setup an ipsec vpn
[02:43] <gorus> now even if i change it back to "nv" it wont startx
[02:43] <gorus> complaining about device presence
[02:44] <stoic> h3sp4wn, that sounds like a great idea, explain... im kinda new to linux
[02:44] <lou80> yeah vpn would work nicely might be over kill though
[02:44] <exotic> bimberi:just was about to tell u am a kubuntu user! it's ok
[02:44] <stoic> well... actualy networking in general
[02:44] <exotic> deb:i can't find this option
[02:45] <deb> exotic: kcontrol -> system administration -> login manager ->?convenience tab .
[02:46] <bimberi> exotic: i help a bit in a few channels, just forgot which one i was in ;)
[02:47] <exotic> bimberi: no worries
[02:47] <lou80> stioc, before you play about with vpn make sure you can ssh in remotely (i promise it can be done of ip)
[02:47] <exotic> deb:i'll check this
[02:48] <lou80> over*
[02:48] <stoic> yeah i have done it on our local network just not remotly
[02:48] <stoic> ssh -X usrname@IP
[02:48] <stoic> pretty easy command
[02:48] <lou80> if is it a dynamic setup no-ip.com daemon
[02:49] <lou80> dynamically assighned ip that is
[02:49] <Shan_> i have a raw unpartitioned 160 gb hdd .. and i have booted from the Ubuntu Live cd.. i'm trying to use the cfdisk util, to create 4 partitions on my hdd. However, cfdisk wont let me create more thn 1 partition.. any help?
[02:50] <jaffa_> Qtparted use that
[02:50] <Shan_> oh ok
[02:50] <stoic> actualy, gnome parted is a little bit more mature than QT
[02:50] <deb> Shan_: use gparted in case u want reiser fs support
[02:51] <Shan_> deb, reiser fs? :S
[02:51] <lou80> Shan_ use fdisk is it's on the livecd, lots of options :-)
[02:51] <exotic> deb:i got it, thanx, it works now
[02:51] <jorik> yeah just use fdisk
[02:51] <deb> exotic: u r w :)
[02:51] <pascal> hello la room
[02:52] <pascal> ya personne lol
[02:53] <gorus> sould i be using nvidia-legacy driver with geforce 3 Ti 200 ??
[02:53] <rambo3> did anyone test kubuntu edgy
[02:53] <deb> Shan_: I like to use reiser fs as my linux partition. But QTpart doesn't support it. So, I use gparted .
[02:53] <deb> rambo3: I am using kubuntu edgy
[02:54] <morget> i got a problem with the desktop-cd, if i try to start it, it staks at the screen where all the drivers startet (i think) it says "mounting root file system" and stands there around 10 min and do nothing, then i restart the pc.
[02:54] <xwolf--> i
[02:54] <eeos> today I updated xorg-core
[02:55] <eeos> did they updated it twice in a day?
[02:55] <rambo3> deb ok thats good i ll start upgrading as soon as i edit sources is it just edgy instead of dapper ?
[02:55] <xwolf--> i
[02:55] <deb> rambo3: correct. I will advice you not to do a dist upgrade .
[02:56] <xwolf--> i
[02:57] <Shan_> deb, I have two 160 gb hdd's .. is it better to have a dual boot system, with Windows and Liux on the same drive or on diff drives?
[02:57] <Shan_> :/
[02:58] <rambo3> noted
[02:58] <Shan_> what say peeps
[02:58] <deb> Shan_: same drive different partiton .
[02:58] <morget> ...
[02:59] <rambo3> and dist-upgradeing now
[02:59] <Shan_> aight
[03:00] <lou80> Hi folks, i've just used debootstrap to install a base system onto a spare partition and have it booting up nicely with a kernel.  Are there any packages i could use to install the bulk of things i need (networking etc) to eventually get to the stage where I can install X? i've never done this before and )
[03:00] <rambo3> Shan on the same drive
[03:00] <Shan_> thank you ppl
[03:00] <Shan_> bbl
[03:00] <rambo3> debootstrap is that like bisybox
[03:01] <lou80> not sure let me check
[03:01] <rambo3> busybox that is
[03:03] <exotic> deb:another help please,.. in Kopete, there is two diffrent accounts for two persons,.. but when i try to log in with any, there does exit ( both ) contacts,
[03:03] <xwolf-> can anyone help me? i can't get X to run, probably can't find the screen or some sort, now i am on telnet
[03:03] <Jucato> kool! the new, and hopefully fixed, version of xserver-xorg-core is now available! (1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4).
[03:04] <lou80> rambo, i'm putting busybot on it now thanks!!
[03:04] <clark_> Hello everyone!!!!
[03:04] <rambo3> lou80: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html
[03:04] <Jucato> xwolf-: did you update and when?
[03:04] <clark_> guys I need some help
[03:05] <xwolf-> jucato, just now
[03:05] <clark_> I need to install Gnome... how can I do it? I have no idea...
[03:05] <Jucato> hmm... xwolf- hold on a sec, I'll try if the newer update isn't broken
[03:05] <deb> exotic: i think there is a option to hide offline buddies
[03:05] <xwolf-> and then dpkg-reconfigure since i saw it didnt work
[03:06] <Jucato> clark_: "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" that will install Ubuntu
[03:06] <rambo3> clark: easy or the hard way ?
[03:06] <xwolf-> damn, telnet is horrible to irc conversations
[03:06] <Jucato> xwolf-: do you have access now to your Kubuntu system?
[03:06] <xwolf-> yes, i am in tty1
[03:07] <deb> exotic: or u can check for some similar options under settings -> configure -> appreance ->Contact list
[03:07] <v3ctor> why would you use telnet for irc?
[03:07] <Jucato> xwolf-: why use telnet then? you could use irssi
[03:07] <Jucato> come on and join the command line fun! hehehe anyway...
[03:07] <Jucato> xwolf-: try to do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" again
[03:07] <exotic> deb:yeah, i dun want my conatcs to be shown for the other users,.. it's just coz i have a problem with Gaim, it always crashes whenever i try to login with hotmail accounts
[03:07] <xwolf-> we havenprivmsg
[03:08] <xwolf-> hang on
[03:08] <Jucato> xwolf-: the newer update might be available now
[03:08] <exotic> deb:could this problem with Gaim be fixed?
[03:08] <Jucato> hold on... I just did the upgrade... restarting X. here goes nothing!!
[03:08] <deb> exotic: which version of gaim do u use ?
[03:08] <pussiorava> !kubuntu.fi
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu.fi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <exotic> deb:1.5
[03:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> and?
[03:09] <CVirus> !fi
[03:09] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:09] <Jucato> ok the new update works perfectly
[03:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[03:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> that means i'm going after Jucato
[03:09] <Jucato> Vliegendehuiskat: wait
[03:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[03:10] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number)
[03:10] <pielgrzym> hi everybody :)
[03:11] <stoic> hello
[03:11] <CVirus> Jucato: how can I see the version no. ?
[03:11] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright Jucato
[03:11] <Chris7mas> i upgraded today from the official repos and only have available ubuntu10 and ubuntu10.3 is that a problem?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Jucato: its hit the servers already?
[03:11] <CVirus> Jucato: and why there is a second update for the same package ? I mean there was an update already before hours
[03:11] <pielgrzym> could someone tell me where does kde locate the 99kde-env file in kubuntu? I need to enable option "KDE_IS_PRELINKED" but dunno where the file is ;)
[03:11] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it was released a few hours ago, but only hit our servers recently
[03:12] <gnomefreak> k
[03:12] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:12] <Jucato> CVirus: the previous update was broken
[03:12] <stoic> command for shutting shutting KDE down? anyone?
[03:12] <CVirus> Jucato: worked for me !
[03:12] <fyyrest0rm> anyone have any experience with world of warcraft and wine? lol
[03:12] <pielgrzym> stoic: ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:12] <Jucato> CVirus: did you restart X after updating?
[03:12] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm:
[03:12] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: sure
[03:12] <stoic> thankyou
[03:12] <igor_> damn, now irssi is much better
[03:12] <CVirus> Jucato: sire I did
[03:13] <deb> exotic: Well I guess it a problem with gaim . try upgrading Gaim to 2.0 beta 3 ,
[03:13] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: yeah? I'm having a problem heh
[03:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> not yet in my repo's
[03:13] <Jucato> CVirus: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-core
[03:13] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: what is it ?
[03:13] <Jucato> CVirus: what version is it showing?
[03:13] <Jucato> Vliegendehuiskat: still showing the 10.3 version?
[03:13] <xwolf-> jucato what did i have to type anyway?
[03:13] <CVirus> Jucato: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[03:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> jup Jucato
[03:13] <CVirus> Jucato: its upgrading to .4
[03:14] <Jucato> CVirus: hmm.... you're probably one of the very very few lucky ones then
[03:14] <deb> exotic: u need to add the following line in the source .list file to get the update deb package : deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse
[03:14] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: Ok..got wine 0.9.19 from winehq installed, got wow installed, it ran fine at first but of course wanted to patch..i grabbed the patch files from another machine and ran those, got it patched..now when i try to run wow it loads the launcher, i click play, after a second it just disappears and never loads.
[03:14] <CVirus> Jucato: what was wrong ?
[03:14] <Jucato> CVirus: the 10.3 version totally hosed X down
[03:14] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: did you patch your wine ?
[03:14] <Jucato> xwolf-: to get your X working again:
[03:14] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[03:15] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: patch wine? it's the newest version
[03:15] <xwolf-> jucato ok
[03:15] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: you're using nvidia ?
[03:15] <exotic> deb:thanx i'll check this
[03:15] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: yeah
[03:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> well if i try to alter that command to ubuntu10.4 it doesn't work either
[03:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> still not here yet
[03:16] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: let me give yoi the page u need
[03:16] <Jucato> Vliegendehuiskat: you'll just have to wait for it to hit your server I guess.
[03:16] <xwolf-> how the heck do i quit emacs? ><
[03:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> i think so
[03:16] <Jucato> yikes?
[03:16] <koriel> can anyone copy paste the url for nvidia drivers to download...I have no x and no lynx..
[03:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> the dutch servers are quite busy usually :P
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Vliegendehuiskat: give it time. a package doesnt hit every mirror at same time
[03:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> I know
[03:17] <gnomefreak> try the uk mirrors ;)
[03:17] <Jucato> yeah, our mirrors received the fix I think more than 3 hours after it was initially announced in the bug report
[03:18] <koriel> come on someone from www.nvidia.com give me the url for linux x86 drivers...
[03:18] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5109
[03:19] <christianp> hi all
[03:20] <Dannilion> hello
[03:20] <rambo3> koriel why dont you use ubuntu ones
[03:20] <Jucato> koriel: why do you have no X?
[03:21] <christianp> i would like to test virtual pc on my kubuntu laptop: i want to run a virtual machine with windows XP. Does anyone can suggest me what i need? (Xen or vmware or....)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Jucato: what mirrors are you running?
[03:21] <rambo3> qemu
[03:21] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I'm actually confused... hold on a sec...
[03:21] <koriel> I did an upgrade and I have no x...
[03:21] <gnomefreak> k
[03:21] <christianp> rambo3: you suggest qemu?
[03:21] <koriel> I installed my own kernel and the upgrade messed up everything
[03:21] <rambo3> yes why not
[03:21] <deb> christianp: If u have a win XP image , use vmware player .
[03:22] <christianp> deb: i have to create a new windows instance (with boot cd)
[03:22] <rambo3> christianp: use google for more infor there are alot of tutorials
[03:23] <christianp> rambo3: ok, what i want is the name of the program (you suggest qemu), now i try finding tutorials
[03:23] <christianp> thanks
[03:24] <deb> christianp: check it out ---> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275
[03:25] <xwolf-> it's alive!
[03:25] <Jucato> gnomefreak: my sources.list points to ph.archive.ubuntu.com... but according to someone from the local ubuntu team, that ain't a real mirror/server...
[03:25] <xwolf-> thank you all.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it hit uk mirrors i was informed
[03:25] <Jucato> kool
[03:26] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: I assume you're talking about the wow-patch-0.9.18.diff ?
[03:27] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[03:28] <CVirus> fyyrest0rm: I guess 0.9.19 also needs patching ... I dont know if u'll use the 0.9.18 patch or it has its own separate patch .. check the page plz .. I quit WoW a month ago
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> When I disable the kernel's boot splash, I noticed there are no colors for [ ok ]  and [failed]  messages. Any way I can enable those?
[03:31] <fyyrest0rm> CVirus: I did check the page, the patch IS 0.9.18 but when I do the command to patch it just gives me an error: "patch: *** strip count l is not a number"
[03:33] <onTecHno> hi all! I have a problem concerning my soundcards: they are both automatically detected, but in the wrong order - how to change it?
[03:35] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'm here now
[03:35] <Jucato> hehe! hi Hawkwind
[03:35] <Jucato> the fixed xserver-xorg-core package is now available on some mirrors/servers
[03:35] <Hawkwind> Morning :)
[03:35] <onTecHno> anyone an idea how to change the soundcard order?
[03:36] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That's certainly good to hear :)
[03:36] <Jucato> other servers/mirrors are still updating, though
[03:36] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[03:37] <Hawkwind> That last number will make you or break you, literally
[03:37] <Hawkwind> Heh
[03:37] <Jucato> hehehe
[03:38] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Did you get a chance to speak to abattoir_ at all last night ?
[03:38] <Jucato> err... I knew I forgot something... ^_^
[03:38] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:39] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning(evening your time) :P
[03:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: Hawkwind feel free to start a room up about it :P
[03:39] <Hobbsee> heya :)
[03:39] <Jucato> Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, as the case may be
[03:39] <Dannilion> It's available on the British servers, cos I just did an update
[03:39] <Jucato> uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Did you speak to abattoir_ last night at all by chance ?
[03:40] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, wonder if it's on se.archive.ubuntu.com yet
[03:40] <Jucato> Dannilion: just make sure that it will upgrade to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:40] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: ah.  i spoke to one of you about it while i was at uni.  i think it was abattoir, yes
[03:40] <Jucato> Hawkwind: you can check with Adept Updater
[03:40] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: not much though
[03:41] <Jucato> I didn't talk to Hobbsee about it... I was waiting for a referral from Hawkwind. lol
[03:41] <Dannilion> I checked first
[03:41] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:41] <Dannilion> I downloaded the updates without installing them first :)
[03:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core  will tell me if it's there yet or not too :P
[03:41] <Dannilion> Hey Hobbsee!
[03:41] <Hobbsee> hey Dannilion
[03:41] <abattoir_> Hawkwind: hi :)
[03:41] <Hawkwind> abattoir_: There you are, good morning
[03:42] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I wouldn't know. we're using different servers/mirrors...
[03:44] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: apt-get update than apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core should give you the info you are searching for
[03:52] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Yeah seems 10.3 is still on se.archive at the moment :(
[03:55] <_kmh_> hi
[03:56] <_kmh_> i have a question concerning installing ubuntu twice on the same machine (kubuntu and xubuntu on 2 different partitions)
[03:56] <_kmh_> and i have a problem with setting the root partition
[03:57] <_kmh_> it seems that the current installation overwrites the former, so the current works fine and / was assigned to its drive, but the other does not boot anymore
[03:59] <gan|y|med> i need help writing initng scripts... could anybody have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21392 please
[04:02] <nkRush> _kmh_, that's not the way it's done. install one, boot it and then install the packages for the other desktop environment. you should then be abled to decide at login which one to use
[04:02] <gan|y|med>  ok, update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21393
[04:08] <_kmh_> nkRush : no i don't want to have different desktops only, i want to have independent installations
[04:09] <xwolf-> _kmh_ provided that you don't select the same partition to both installations, it should be fine. by the time you install the second one, GRUB will be replaced and look for other operational systems
[04:10] <_kmh_> xwolf- : that what i did, the installation was went fine, but now the old system does not boot properly anymore
[04:10] <xwolf-> *afaik*, the last installation (partition) should have the bootable flag
[04:11] <_kmh_> xwolf- : yes
[04:11] <_kmh_> so how can i have both bootable with a separate root disk ?
[04:12] <fraser> Help needed please, when i download the Xorg upgrade xserver wont start: error No devices found
[04:12] <xwolf-> fraser
[04:12] <_kmh_> xwolf- : another question - how can read /edit the grub configuration from linux ?
[04:12] <xwolf-> fraser downgrade it to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.2
[04:13] <spazz> how to i prevent my monitor from turning off by itself? i dont see any power settings for it. not in screensavers... where do i find it
[04:13] <xwolf-> fraser i had the same problem.
[04:13] <Ash-Fox> (Can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to be sure.)
[04:13] <fraser> xwolf: How do i downgrade it ?
[04:13] <xwolf-> fraser read ash-fox's msg
[04:13] <xwolf-> fraser you either downgrade to 10.2 or upgrade to 10.4
[04:13] <Ash-Fox> Well, mine is a newer version, which may not be on the mirrors yet
[04:13] <xwolf-> _kmh_ i dont follow you.
[04:14] <fraser> xwolf: thank you will try that
[04:14] <xwolf-> spazz you mean like after N minutes it shuts down?
[04:14] <nkRush> spazz, system settings >> display
[04:14] <spazz> yea
[04:15] <xwolf-> well.
[04:15] <spazz> thanks
[04:15] <_kmh_> xwolf- : i want to read/edit the boot menu
[04:15] <_kmh_> xwolf- : but don't know how to access it
[04:15] <xwolf-> _kmh_ the boot menu is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:15] <_kmh_> ok ty
[04:16] <skreech> Is there any way to pipe sound over a ssh connection?
[04:16] <jasondotgnu> hello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?
[04:17] <gan|y|med> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21394
[04:17] <gan|y|med> please have a look at it and tell me what's wrong it anybod can
[04:17] <gan|y|med> y
[04:18] <skreech> gan|y|med: What's itype?
[04:20] <jordo23> Why is it that Konqueror will not accept some clicks on links that Firefox will.  For example: In some message forums I click on POST and nothing happens in KONQ but it works fine in Firefox?
[04:21] <jordo23> I thought Konq was supposed to be super accurate in rendering after passing the ACID2 test....
[04:21] <overlimit> start EE no devices found...any ideas someone?
[04:21] <skreech> jordo23: That was A) The ACID test so meaningless in the over all scheme of things B) in SVN and C) an experimental brance
[04:21] <skreech> brach
[04:21] <skreech> branch
[04:22] <_kmh_> jordo23 : different scripting/plugins
[04:22] <jordo23> skreech: Have you experienced this in KONq?
[04:22] <skreech> overlimit: try sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[04:22] <jordo23> Can this be fixed?
[04:22] <skreech> jordo23: not recently if you give a link maybe someone can verify it
[04:22] <liouncourt> sal jucato
[04:22] <liouncourt> me again
[04:22] <liouncourt> :)
[04:22] <jordo23> You would have to be a member of the website
[04:23] <liouncourt> i install my video drivers
[04:23] <Jucato> hi liouncourt ehehe
[04:23] <liouncourt> and after this
[04:23] <liouncourt> i restart computer
[04:23] <liouncourt> everything work smootfh
[04:23] <jordo23> Has anyone experienced errors like this in Konq?
[04:24] <liouncourt> i install something else and my video don`t work
[04:24] <skreech> jordo23: Can you run the page through validate.w3.org?
[04:24] <jordo23> skreech: Will try
[04:24] <Jucato> liouncourt: what was that "something else" you installed?
[04:25] <liouncourt> you have any ideea if exist some incompatibilities in packages
[04:25] <liouncourt> repositories?
[04:25] <liouncourt> some games
[04:25] <jordo23> skreech: can't find that site
[04:25] <liouncourt> but when i install driver for my video card
[04:25] <skreech> Umm sorry try validator.w3.org
[04:25] <liouncourt> i need to enable other repositories
[04:26] <liouncourt> i think is some conflicts in repositories
[04:26] <liouncourt> what do you think?
[04:27] <liouncourt> now just i reinstall my kubuntu
[04:27] <liouncourt> :(
[04:27] <Jucato> liouncourt: it shouldn't have any conflicts. But some in rare cases it might happen
[04:28] <liouncourt> k
[04:28] <liouncourt> thanks
[04:28] <jordo23> skreech:  failed, with many many errors
[04:28] <skreech> Check if the post is one of them
[04:29] <liouncourt> any ideea how i install rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz
[04:31] <Hawkwind> liouncourt: Untar it, then cd to the directory it creates, and read the README file
[04:31] <overlimit> I did dpkg-reconfigure but still no x and the error message doesn't say much
[04:32] <liouncourt> i just do this
[04:32] <liouncourt> and helps me
[04:32] <liouncourt> thanks
[04:32] <overlimit> all happened after I did a full upgrade
[04:32] <overlimit> from the package manager
[04:33] <Tm_T> overlimit: topic?
[04:33] <xevil> overlimit: dead xserver?
[04:33] <Hawkwind> overlimit: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[04:33] <Hawkwind> overlimit: What does that tell you ?
[04:34] <overlimit> Hawkwind: file or directory does not exist
[04:34] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[04:36] <synaptics> hello, can anyone tellme where i can find the old pastes files?
[04:36] <gan|y|med> skreech: sry, had to work. i type is an initng script
[04:36] <DaSkreech> synaptics: Sorry?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> itype is a shell?
[04:38] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:38] <ubuntu_> fgjdslgjlsdjflsdjflsjdflsjfljldsf
[04:38] <[GuS] > ?
[04:39] <synaptics> ok, anyone can help me out with getting mp3 to play in kubuntu
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > synaptics
[04:40] <synaptics> i accidentally formatted my hard drive and the info about it was in pastebin
[04:40] <DaSkreech> synaptics: Search for it. there is a search function
[04:40] <[GuS] > synaptics,  you must enable multiverse in your repositories to install libxine-extracodecs
[04:40] <cannonball> synaptics: go into your browse history on your browser (unless that was in the partition that you formatted)
[04:41] <synaptics> thats the partition that i formated
[04:41] <synaptics> there is another paste bin site. but i cant remember the site
[04:41] <DaSkreech> pastebin.ca and paste.ubuntu-nl.com are the most common
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Whoops .org
[04:42] <DaSkreech> !paste
[04:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:52] <scame> hi, after updating X it won't work anymore thus im working on using nvidiafb instead of vga16fb in kubuntu 6.06 is this possible?
[04:52] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[04:53] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:53] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:53] <Jucato> (presuming, of course, that the package is already available in your local server/mirror)
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Jucato: hasn't hit Australia yet it seems
[04:54] <Ash-Fox> On all the Polish mirrors.
[04:54] <scame> anyways, so, when using usplash is there anyway to make kubuntu use the nvidiafb module instead of vga16fb ?
[04:54] <Jucato> thoreauputic: let me check...
[04:55] <thoreauputic> Jucato: bimberi checked a few minutes ago in #ubuntu-au and it wasn't there yet
[04:55] <dhq> how to create overburn in kubuntu
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> ??
[04:55] <Jucato> thoreauputic: yep. not there yet :-D
[04:56] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: what's the URL for the Polish mirrors?
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Jucato: well, luckily I read the users mailing list so I knew about it
[04:56] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Jucato: I'll wait a day or so I think
[04:56] <DaSkreech> What does the bad Xorg do>
[04:56] <Jucato> thoreauputic: maybe just a few hours :-D
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> X wont start it seems
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> or so i am hearing in the othe rchennals
[04:57] <DaSkreech> With what error?
[04:57] <Kyral_Laptop> in Edgy?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Jucato: well, it's after midnight here so maybe in the morning :)
[04:57] <Jucato> in Dapper
[04:57] <scame> DaSkreech: i've one of those non-working X-es, if anyone needs the errors...
[04:57] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, you can find them on easy source.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Me mE !! i need em
[04:57] <thoreauputic> Dr_Willis: see /topic
[04:57] <Jucato> what? you didn't here? it's all over #ubuntu and ubuntuforums, etc
[04:57] <craig> does anyone know where you can get a website design program for linux
[04:58] <Melchiorre> quanta+
[04:58] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: I was going to manually check them if the updates are already there. nvm. thanks anyways
[04:58] <scame> DaSkreech: well i'm just upgrading to the latest patch, but i could send u the X*.log file of this non-working X
[04:58] <Jucato> Quanta Plus (or as Melchiorre said, Quanta+
[04:58] <Ash-Fox> scame, You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:58] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[04:58] <DaSkreech> can't you grep it for EE ?
[04:58] <scame> DaSkreech: yes, but where should I paste?
[04:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: the error is "no screens found"
[04:59] <scame> DaSkreech: (EE) No devices detected.
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Oh then that's not what is screwing my X then :-(
[04:59] <Jucato> it's already a known issue, that downgrading is the only known solution until the newer update hits your servers
[04:59] <scame> DaSkreech:  but that's more to it!
[04:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I think there was a "no devices found" error, too. Just not sure though
[05:00] <DaSkreech> I don't get any errors
[05:00] <DaSkreech> It just doesn't start
[05:00] <moebius_> are there any plans to packages amarok 1.4.2beta?
[05:00] <scame> DaSkreech: it was something with libGLcore (which i had to disable from xorg.conf) some symbol with Context was missing
[05:00] <Phantom> i'm trying to get windows file sharing with samba working on kubuntu 6.06.  I go to system setings in the k menu, select the "sharing" icon, hit the "file sharing" icon, become root with the become admin button, but all the file sharing settings are greyed out.  any idea?n,
[05:00] <DaSkreech> It does look for BusID PCI:1:0:1 though
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Which I'm pretty sure is not in any X config file
[05:00] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you'll see the errors when  you  press Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, the type startx
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Phantom,  you may need to insall some of the samba packages.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[05:01] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:01] <DaSkreech> I have. There are no errors
[05:01] <Jucato> hm... ok then. different issue... @_@
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Phantom: You need to install a samba server
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Want a pastebin of my startx log?
[05:02] <Phantom> dr_willis: the samba client tools currently work.  are these programs seperate from the server?
[05:02] <Jucato> err.. I wouldn't be able to interpret it anyway...
[05:02] <Jucato> but you may as well... someone might know
[05:02] <synaptics> How do i edit a file with root access in konsole?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Hmm got somethign new now
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Phantom,  i recall insalling the server package specificially
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ksmsserver could not start
[05:02] <Jucato> synaptics: "sudo nano <filename>"
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> the samba client tools for KDE are different from some of the other samba related packages
[05:03] <synaptics> thank u
[05:03] <DaSkreech> ksmserver is the session manager?
[05:03] <synaptics> btw, anyone knows where the sources.list is located?
[05:03] <DaSkreech> synaptics: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <Jucato> he's fast
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Jucato: But not loose :)
[05:04] <synaptics> thank u
[05:04] <Jucato> ehehehe
[05:05] <Phantom> dr_willis: I searched for "samba" in adept, and i only have the samba-common package installed.  however, none of the packages look like the server package.  do you recall which package is needed?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Phantom,  nope. just sambe i thought
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Phantom,  start the samba service with /etc/init.d/samba start
[05:06] <Phantom> dr_willis: i see it now, thanks
[05:06] <craig> how do you compile kdewebdev-3.5.3??
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Phantom,  ii cent recall EVER using that kde samba config stuff. I edit the samba config, and set up home shares. and thats ablut all i do. and make a 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' samba password for every user.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> With a computer
[05:06] <synaptics> Jucato: how do i edit it with kate inside the terminal?
[05:06] <craig> lol
[05:07] <DaSkreech> synaptics: kdesu kate /etc.apt.sources.lsit
[05:07] <DaSkreech> list
[05:07] <E[m] ess> hi, my box powered down in a thunderstorm when we had a blackout, and when i boot normally it stops after initialising X and justshows the ubuntu splash. when i boot into recovry mode and try to startx, i get the error that no devices were found/initialised. i looked at the X config and its fine but also says no screens in the error, any ideas?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> bah. Just spell ti right
[05:07] <E[m] ess> did an update for x jsut before
[05:07] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[05:07] <DaSkreech> E[m] ess: Let me guess you did an update recently?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: you have that scripted no fair :(
[05:08] <Jucato> I've had that scripted since... hm... more than 6 hours ago?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> !b-e > craig
[05:09] <gan|y|med> playing videos with xine (no matter with what gui) is extremely slow.. any ideas why?
[05:09] <Phantom> dr_willis: I tried editing the config directly before, when I used fedora, and never got it to work. do you have any advice on how to configure it.  i just want to be able to share files like when you're on windows and select to share for everyone with no password.
[05:09] <gan|y|med> it used to work after the fresh dapper install
[05:09] <synaptics> how do i update my sources.list ?
[05:09] <E[m] ess> yeah update, im guessing X core is broken
[05:09] <DaSkreech> synaptics: You edit it
[05:09] <DaSkreech> E[m] ess: Yup listen to Jucato
[05:09] <synaptics> i mean after editing it
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:09] <DaSkreech> synaptics: Save then apt-get update
[05:09] <synaptics> is it apt-get update sources.list ?
[05:10] <Jucato> heheh Ash-Fox also has it scripted :-D
[05:10] <E[m] ess> sweet, thanks
[05:10] <Ash-Fox> :P
[05:10] <DaSkreech> synaptics: No just apt-get update
[05:11] <gsuveg> re
[05:11] <gsuveg> knot-1 use kde4pre ?
[05:11] <E[m] ess> ok, il go try it thanks yall
[05:11] <Jucato> gsuveg: AFAIK, no
[05:11] <synaptics> it says
[05:11] <synaptics> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:11] <synaptics> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:11] <Jucato> synaptics: is Adept open?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <Ash-Fox> Run it with sudo, or close your other package manager.
[05:12] <synaptics> its closed
[05:12] <gsuveg> Jucato: not yet ?
[05:12] <synaptics> ahh it works, thanks DaSkreech
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:12] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[05:12] <shadeofgrey> i need help
[05:12] <Jucato> gsuveg: yep. not yet. KDE 4 won't make it in time for the release of Edgy anyway
[05:12] <Ash-Fox> shadeofgrey, yes?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> KDE4 libs will though :)
[05:13] <gsuveg> Jucato: ah. thanks.
[05:13] <shadeofgrey> i just found out taht i have glaucoma and am going blind
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> shadeofgrey, what a shame.
[05:13] <shadeofgrey> i need to download and install the best gui based text editor that allows me to use a full sized square asa cursor
[05:13] <gsuveg> maybe OT: kde or gnome use less memory  ?
[05:13] <shadeofgrey> i cant see the sinmgle line that all the big wordprocessors use anymore
[05:14] <Datos> gnome
[05:14] <shadeofgrey> is there like an addon for openoffice or abiword that makes the default prompt a square?
[05:14] <Jucato> honestly? I haven't noticed
[05:14] <shadeofgrey> hi jucato!
[05:14] <Datos> openoffice
[05:15] <Jucato> hi shadeofgrey
[05:15] <gan|y|med> ok, i start kaffeine. the video is god damn slow. i try to start kaffeine again and nothing happens... any ideas. totem works. xine-ui has the same problem, so i assume it is a xine problem...
[05:15] <DaSkreech> Did you update anythign recently?
[05:15] <shadeofgrey> juc:  you wouldnt happen to know of any work arounds for openoffive or abiword that make the default pro,mpt a square?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402 btw
[05:16] <Jucato> shadeofgrey: nope. sorry
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Datos: You know somethign about this?
[05:16] <Datos> no
[05:16] <Emess> didnt like the version number,,,
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Ah you just like saying openoffice?
[05:17] <utab> disasterous updates today
[05:17] <Jucato> hehe
[05:17] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[05:17] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Check out the pastebin. There are no errors
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:18] <Jucato> lol! Ash-Fox modified his script
[05:18] <Ash-Fox> ah whoops, I should stop glacing :P
[05:18] <Ash-Fox> *glancing
[05:18] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I know... I just posted that for the information of others...
[05:18] <Emess> Ash-Fox: that last command doesnt work for me, says no version number
[05:18] <DaSkreech> pastewhores
[05:18] <waspius> hi..i have installed java on my pc but when i open firefox it tells me that a plugin is missing
[05:18] <utab> how to mount some samba drives automatically
[05:18] <DaSkreech> waspius: How did you install java?
[05:19] <Ash-Fox> drat
[05:19] <waspius> DaSkreech: apt-get install ..
[05:19] <Jucato> waspius: did you perform the "update-java-alternatives" instructions?
[05:19] <Ash-Fox> Emess, 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:20] <gan|y|med> xine-check gives me some very strange messages - libxine is not installed according to it, but it is. and i cannot use xv (ati card). any ideas?
[05:20] <Emess> and i cant get it to roll back one, says 1:1.0.2ubuntu10 not found for xserver-xorg-core
[05:20] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[05:20] <waspius> Jucato: no
[05:20] <synaptics> how do i dualboot without affecting other drives?
[05:20] <Jucato> waspius: you need to do it.
[05:20] <Jucato> !java
[05:20] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:20] <Emess> Ash-Fox: i used that, didnt work
[05:20] <Jucato> Emess: Ash-Fox's instructions were incomplete
[05:20] <Ash-Fox> Emess, I forgot the 1: before and I added it now?
[05:20] <Jucato> Emess: notice the =1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[05:21] <Emess> well crap, got the updated instructions?
[05:21] <Emess> oh ok, thanks
[05:21] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[05:21] <Emess> working now :d
[05:21] <utab> how to mount samba network drives automatically
[05:21] <Jucato> I keep on repeating the same thing, but since I don't know how to make the alias command like Ash-Fox's, nobody takes notice...
[05:22] <Emess> is there a reasonteh update crashes?
[05:22] <Jucato> it's broken/bugged
[05:22] <DaSkreech> cause open source sucketh the big one
[05:22] <Emess> ok, so upgrading again wont help
[05:23] <Jucato> Emess: not unless your local server/mirror already has the fixed package
[05:23] <Emess> my local server is 10 minutes walk, il go give them a buzz
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> just wget it from one which does have it
[05:23] <Emess> good point
[05:23] <Jucato> err.. local Ubuntu server/mirror...
[05:23] <Emess> either way im gonna try starting x again
[05:24] <Emess> Jucato: i know, the perth ubuntu repo is at teh University of Westerna Australia, about 10 minutes from me
[05:24] <bekiil> whats the url to the script-o-matic for update mirrors ?
[05:24] <Jucato> oh
[05:25] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[05:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:25] <utab> help for automatic mounting of samba network drives
[05:25] <bekiil> ah, source-o-matic, :D
[05:25] <DaSkreech> utab: Why don't you just use smb://
[05:25] <DaSkreech> smb:/ sorry :(
[05:26] <utab> DaSkreech, actually
[05:26] <utab> DaSkreech, I had a script I want add this to one of the init files
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> ugh, srcforge seems borken - their redir script is timing out.
[05:27] <utab> DaSkreech, but dunno where;(
[05:27] <DaSkreech> What are you trying to do with it?
[05:27] <gabro> ol
[05:27] <gabro> salve
[05:28] <utab> DaSkreech, I have a network poll that I want to connect to
[05:28] <VincentMX> !es
[05:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:28] <VincentMX> gabro: see what ubotu said
[05:28] <VincentMX> only spanish work i know is pizza :P
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Hmm I've never tried to mount one before but I suspect that smbfs might be the proper FS
[05:29] <VincentMX> word
[05:29] <DaSkreech> That's italian
[05:29] <VincentMX> yes
[05:29] <VincentMX> it's a joke
[05:29] <DaSkreech> You are offically illiterate then :-)
[05:29] <bekiil> guess i have to reboot after a kernel update? hehe
[05:29] <DaSkreech> No
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Unless you actually want to >use< the kernel
[05:30] <VincentMX> who does?
[05:30] <Ash-Fox> I only install new kernels if they're security updates
[05:31] <jaffa_> guys how do i down grade xserver-xorg-core help me please
[05:31] <djdarkman> hello ,kdm won`t start ,I just upraded the xorg ,what can I do?
[05:32] <Jucato> hmph
[05:32] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[05:32] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:32] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
[05:32] <DaSkreech> awww Ash-Fox didn't kick in :(
[05:32] <Jucato> fine! mine's uglier than Ash-Fox's...
[05:32] <DaSkreech> heeheehee
[05:33] <Jucato> I'll rest mine now... Ash-Fox can take over
[05:33] <Ash-Fox> :P
[05:33] <djdarkman> can you paste this on a pastebin ,cause I`m using bitchx?
[05:34] <gan|y|med> how do i do an auto execution of a custom script right after the x server starts - kdm?
[05:34] <synaptics> what is 6.06? is it dapper or breezy?
[05:34] <stoft> synaptics: dapper
[05:34] <Mez> synaptics, dapper
[05:34] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: Put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:34] <DaSkreech> dapper
[05:34] <Mez> !dapper > synaptics
[05:34] <Jucato> Dapper...
[05:34] <Ash-Fox> djdarkman http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/xorg
[05:34] <Jucato> just to add to the chorus...
[05:34] <Mez> DaSkreech, that will only make it run on login
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:35] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: Why X?
[05:36] <djdarkman> thanks Ash-Fox
[05:36] <Jucato>  putting it in /usr/share/autostart would make it run when KDE first starts right?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have a Server that has the new Xserver?
[05:38] <gan|y|med> doesn't work
[05:38] <Ash-Fox> DaSkreech, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:38] <gan|y|med> because i need the xserver to run
[05:39] <Ash-Fox> gan|y|med, read what I wrote.
[05:40] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: The script relies on X?
[05:41] <gan|y|med> DaSkreech: seems so. it just does: aticonfig --set-powerstate 1
[05:41] <DaSkreech> You need that to run for everyone?
[05:42] <gabro> hi
[05:43] <gan|y|med> i am the only user
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:43] <DaSkreech> ok then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:44] <gan|y|med> doesn't work
[05:44] <gan|y|med> it just doesn't do anything
[05:44] <synaptics> should i restart after apt-get update ?
[05:45] <troy> does anyone have problems with amarok playing flac + xine-engine with the most current amarok and xine packages?
[05:45] <trappist> synaptics: no
[05:45] <troy> (dapper)
[05:45] <synaptics> ok
[05:45] <gan|y|med> troy: i have problems with xine in general. my videos are veeeerrrryyy slow
[05:46] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: is sound slow?
[05:46] <troy> gan|y|med: not video, just audio :P
[05:46] <Ash-Fox> gan|y|med, in the console, type 'glxinfo |grep direct', just out of curiousity?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2283  <~~New KDE menu in openSuSe 10.2 currently.  Will be a standard soon enough it seems :)
[05:47] <gan|y|med> direct rendering: Yes
[05:47] <excitatory> troy: yea.. it's an error in xine 1.1.1 -- xine 1.1.2 fixed it a long time ago, but dapper has not been updated.
[05:47] <excitatory> troy: there's a solution, one moment..
[05:47] <gan|y|med> this get's on my nerves. video output worked with dapper. now it doesn't... i don't k now why. i am using ati's driver and opengl is enabled
[05:48] <dhq> when i burn a dvd in gnome i get this error "
[05:48] <dhq> WARNING: /dev/sr0 already carries isofs!
[05:48] <dhq> About to execute 'mkisofs -gui -V GnomeBaker data disk -A GnomeBaker -p root -iso-level 3 -l -R -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -graft-points Titanic (1997).avi=/home/dhq/muvees/Titanic (1997).avi | builtin_dd of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0'
[05:48] <gan|y|med> DaSkreech: any idea why th escript is not executed in autostart?
[05:48] <dhq> INFO:	UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings.
[05:48] <dhq> 	Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem,
[05:48] <dhq> 	use -input-charset to override.
[05:48] <dhq> :-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[05:48] <dhq> /dev/sr0: "Current Write Speed" is 2.0x1385KBps.
[05:48] <dhq> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] : Invalid argument
[05:48] <dhq> :-( write failed: Invalid argument
[05:48] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: It's not executable?
[05:48] <Ash-Fox> gan|y|med, well, you've got hardware acceleration, you could try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable the 'v4l' module (video for linux), it may solve your problems.
[05:48] <Hawkwind> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <Hawkwind> dhq: ^^^^^^^^^^
[05:49] <troy> excitatory: appreciate it :)
[05:49] <gan|y|med> that is a BAD idea i think... messing up with ati's config... but manual editing should work. how do i enable v4l in xorg.conf?
[05:49] <dhq> Hawkwind: sorry
[05:49] <pussfeller> my cd drives are not showing up :(
[05:50] <Ash-Fox> gan|y|med, can't remember off the top of my head
[05:50] <trappist> dhq: try renaming the file to something without spaces, special characters, etc.
[05:50] <pussfeller> should hdc and hdd be in fstab
[05:50] <excitatory> troy: run this command: wget http://www.databrowser.org/download/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb && sudo aptitude install libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb
[05:50] <pussfeller> i thot hal took care of that stuff
[05:51] <gan|y|med> ok, I#ll try the script again.
[05:51] <dhq> trappist: ok will do that
[05:51] <excitatory> troy: argh
[05:51] <excitatory> troy: wait, that's not correct
[05:51] <excitatory> troy: run this command: wget http://www.databrowser.org/download/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2+patch1_i386.deb
[05:51] <gan|y|med> any idea why konqueror (web mode) is so go damn slow
[05:51] <excitatory> troy: run that..sorry
[05:51] <troy> excitatory: merci :)
[05:51] <gan|y|med> and what about v4l?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: How much memory do you have?
[05:52] <synaptics> ok, i give up. how exactly do i update my sources.list with mp3 support ?
[05:52] <Hobbsee> !easyubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:52] <excitatory> troy: in case it's not obvious, that downloads a xine 1.1.2 deb, then tells dpkg to install it.  Here's where i found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1252222&postcount=17
[05:52] <trappist> !repos > synaptics
[05:52] <dhq> Hawkwind: is 3 line pasting ok
[05:53] <excitatory> troy: and obviously, when the command finishes, you'll have to restart amarok.
[05:53] <troy> excitatory: I appreciate it - I'll let the people in #amarok know as well, train their bot maybe :)
[05:53] <trappist> dhq: summarize it or use pastebin, please
[05:53] <excitatory> troy: they know
[05:53] <excitatory> i frequent
[05:54] <troy> excitatory: oh, hrm - small problem... amd64 vs. i386 :/
[05:54] <excitatory> troy: what you have amd64?
[05:54] <dhq> :-[ READ TRACK INFORMATION failed with
[05:55] <dhq> SK=6h/ASC=28h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[05:55] <dhq> /dev/sr0: "Current Write Speed" is 2.0x1385KBps.
[05:55] <dhq> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h] :
[05:55] <dhq> :-( write failed: Invalid argument
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Right reinstalled Xorg and didn't make a difference
[05:55] <fyyrest0rm> ugh i think i've about had it with wine heh
[05:55] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402
[05:55] <troy> excitatory: yeah, probably relevant :)
[05:55] <dhq> trappist:
[05:55] <trappist> dhq: that wasn't a summary or pastebin.
[05:55] <excitatory> troy: if so, you'll have to compile it yourself.. or get on the asses of dapper backports.
[05:55] <Hawkwind> dhq: Heh that's twice now.  Please use pastebin for pasting things.  http://pastebin.ca
[05:55] <DaSkreech> synaptics: Pastebin your sources.list
[05:55] <dhq> trappist: will use pastebine from now on
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[05:56] <synaptics> ok
[05:56] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[05:56] <troy> excitatory: I'll see what sort of deps the eft packages have, maybe I can drop-in replace...
[05:57] <excitatory> troy: idk.. might be a bad idea.. i would just apply the available patch and recompile.
[05:57] <excitatory> but do what you will.. and don't complain when your system breaks.
[05:57] <synaptics> DaSkreech:  http://pastebin.ca/144535
[05:58] <DaSkreech> synaptics: Looks good
[05:58] <DaSkreech>  What's the issue?
[05:58] <synaptics> i still cant play mp3 in amarok or play any videos
[05:58] <dhq> trappist: any idea
[05:59] <trappist> dhq: no, I lost interest in the problem when you pasted again.
[05:59] <DaSkreech> synaptics: did you install libxine-extracodecs ?
[05:59] <synaptics> how do i install that?
[05:59] <synaptics> i think i dont have that one installed
[05:59] <dhq> trappist: plz i need help burn my dvd
[05:59] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Unless you like using adept :)
[06:00] <dhq> trappist: having this problem for a very long time with gnome baker and k3b
[06:00] <synaptics> i dont really like using adept
[06:00] <DaSkreech> nixternal: hey hey
[06:00] <bekiil> in what script can i put "rmmod psmouse" ? I have to remove the module before the laptop reboots/shuts down
[06:00] <gan|y|med> have to go
[06:00] <gan|y|med> ciapo
[06:02] <nixternal> hiya DaSkreech
[06:02] <troy> excitatory: appreciate the help - I'll see if I can get it to work myself...
[06:03] <DaSkreech> nixternal: How do you diagnose somethign with no errors?
[06:03] <nixternal> heh
[06:03] <nixternal> depends
[06:03] <pielgrzym> hello, I want to upgrade my kernel in a quite fresh kubuntu install. I've got Athlon XP 2000+. If I install linux-686 package will it work ok?
[06:04] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[06:04] <UmInAsHoE> is it cool to upgrade now?
[06:04] <Ash-Fox> UmInAsHoE, upgrade what?
[06:04] <UmInAsHoE> xorg
[06:04] <DaSkreech> nixternal: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402
[06:04] <synaptics> thank you DaSkreech , it works
[06:04] <synaptics> lol
[06:04] <pielgrzym> thanks
[06:04] <DaSkreech> No errors/ Just dies
[06:04] <Ash-Fox> it's okay to upgrade xorg if the upgrade is 10.4
[06:04] <DaSkreech> synaptics: sure ;)
[06:04] <synaptics> lol, been doing it for 2hrs
[06:04] <pielgrzym> all I need to do is just download the package linux-686 through Adept? :)
[06:05] <DaSkreech> sorry thought you knew what you needed alerady
[06:05] <UmInAsHoE> i got 10.3 installed and the upgrade is 10.4 so yeh should be then?
[06:05] <UmInAsHoE> 10* even
[06:05] <bekiil> Anyone that knows how to remove the psmouse module on reboot/shutdown automagically ?
[06:05] <Ash-Fox> It should be okay to upgrade to 10.4
[06:05] <nixternal> hmm
[06:05] <bekiil> :)
[06:05] <trappist> pielgrzym: use the -k7 kernel
[06:06] <UmInAsHoE> sweet thanks
[06:06] <nixternal> why are you using the Radeon drivers and not fglrx?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Don't ask.
[06:06] <nixternal> heh
[06:06] <UmInAsHoE> also i am stil having driver mis-match problems with xserver apprently my kernel nvidia modules is 1.0-8762 and my x module is 1.0-7***
[06:07] <nixternal> plus xserver is borked as it is...i can't even use nvidia or fglxr from the repos
[06:07] <UmInAsHoE> and i have to re-install the nvidia drivers everytime i want to startx after reboot
[06:07] <nixternal> ooops..im using edgy though
[06:07] <gorus> anybody got ubuntu working with kodak easyshare c360 ??
[06:07] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Yeah but you get an error
[06:07] <nixternal> true
[06:07] <pielgrzym> trappist: it's better for amd?
[06:07] <nixternal> funny thing..i don't even see the typica wacom error in the post
[06:07] <DaSkreech> nixternal: yay emacs
[06:07] <TubaSoldier> does anyone know the status of the botched xorg update yesterday?
[06:08] <nixternal> heh
[06:08] <trappist> pielgrzym: it pretty much *is* amd
[06:08] <nixternal> did you cut out the wacom stuff?
[06:08] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[06:08] <DaSkreech> I eliminated all the errors to find out that none of them are causing X to not start
[06:08] <pielgrzym> trappist: thanks a lot :)
[06:08] <TubaSoldier> Jucato: thanks for that information
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Go Jucato  :)
[06:08] <nixternal> wacom can cause x to not start
[06:08] <Jucato> lol
[06:08] <UmInAsHoE> what is wacom?
[06:08] <trappist> pielgrzym: apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[06:08] <DaSkreech> With no errors?
[06:08] <Jucato> couldn't stop myself...
[06:08] <nixternal> i had the issue with a release we are working on
[06:09] <pielgrzym> trappist: what does it do?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> UmInAsHoE: Google is your friend :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:09] <trappist> pielgrzym: shows you what you want to know about the package
[06:09] <DaSkreech> nixternal: What was the fix?
[06:09] <UmInAsHoE> lol was just a general question but i may aswell while i wait for the updates to download
[06:09] <nixternal> i don't know... raphink would know..it is his baby
[06:10] <pielgrzym> trappist: I see :) I started downloading the k7 kernel with all other packages (29MB) through Adept package manager :)
[06:10] <UmInAsHoE> i could never manage to get xgl / compiz / cgwd to work with my kubuntu anyone else find that?
[06:10] <trappist> good deal
[06:10] <UmInAsHoE> dapper
[06:10] <Ash-Fox> isn't xgl, compiz, cgwd alpha quality software?
[06:11] <UmInAsHoE> :S ah fair enough
[06:11] <trappist> UmInAsHoE: yeah I couldn't either.  got xgl working with some unofficial packages, but it didn't work well enough to stick with.  was pretty cool for a while, though.
[06:11] <trappist> Ash-Fox: yep.
[06:11] <trappist> Ash-Fox: but it's pretty dang cool.
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> If you want those the versions in edgy are alot newer (saves using unofficial repos)
[06:11] <UmInAsHoE> i just resorted back to default config causes way to many problems
[06:11] <Ash-Fox> trappist, I get the feeling it'd only slow down my software :P
[06:11] <synaptics> i installed the wine package and sources in source.list and updated my list...........how do i open wine?
[06:11] <craig> can anyone tell me where to get website editing software for kubuntu and how to install it??
[06:11] <UmInAsHoE> erm :| my adept just disappeard
[06:12] <Ash-Fox> craig, adept.
[06:12] <Jucato> !quanta
[06:12] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB
[06:12] <trappist> Ash-Fox: it didn't slow anything down for me.  the problem was that kde-window-decorator doesn't work at all, so I had to use gnome-window-decorator, which didn't communicate well with stuff like kicker.
[06:12] <craig> ok thanks
[06:12] <TubaSoldier> nvu is also a pretty cool web editor.
[06:12] <UmInAsHoE> !wacom
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <exotic>  need some help plz, any plugin can extrat .rar files ?
[06:12] <craig> kubuntu linux beats windows in every way (except multimedia capabilities)
[06:12] <synaptics> i installed the wine package and sources in source.list and updated my list...........how do i open wine? <--- any ideas ?
[06:12] <Jucato> UmInAsHoE: wacom is a manufacturer of graphics tablets
[06:13] <ketsugi> How can I properly enable Chinese fonts in KDE? All Chinese words show up as dots. Japanese is fine, and both languages display fine in Gnome.
[06:13] <UmInAsHoE> ty
[06:13] <Jucato> synaptics: you use wine like "wine <.exe file>"
[06:13] <DaSkreech> craig: And games :)
[06:13] <trappist> exotic: sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:13] <tsolutionsitc> hi, where is kubuntu ita pls
[06:13] <craig> yea
[06:13] <Jucato> you actually have to type it (or right-click on the .exe file and open with wine)
[06:13] <synaptics> Jucato: do i have to configure it. example winecfg ? .....
[06:13] <trappist> exotic: then unrar x rarfile.rar
[06:13] <DaSkreech> !it
[06:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:13] <tsolutionsitc> thks
[06:14] <Jucato> synaptics: you can. just run "winecfg"
[06:14] <UmInAsHoE> one of my mates managed to install a virus on my windows drive so i am going kubuntu full time now :P
[06:14] <craig> does anyone know how to play Mp3 files??
[06:14] <UmInAsHoE> really cant be arsed to clean it up
[06:14] <Jucato> !mp3
[06:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <exotic> trappist: thanx, but what does x stands for? or just type x ?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > craig
[06:14] <trappist> exotic: eXtract
[06:14] <Jucato> darn! i forget that ">"...
[06:14] <synaptics> i tried to run the command . but it says winecfg. could not run the specified command
[06:14] <trappist> exotic: yeah just type the x
[06:15] <exotic> trappist:thanx really
[06:15] <UmInAsHoE> !mesa > UmInAsHoE
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:16] <synaptics> Jucato:  i tried to run the command . but it says winecfg. could not run the specified command
[06:16] <craig> which is best KDE or Gnome??
[06:16] <UmInAsHoE> does anyone know a fix for having 2 audio capable devices playing at the same time?
[06:16] <Jucato> synaptics: hm... that's strange... I can run it without problems here...
[06:17] <trappist> Jucato: get a card that does hardware mixing, like an audigy, or use a software mixer like artsd
[06:17] <UmInAsHoE> craig, as you are in the #kubuntu channel most of us will say KDE
[06:17] <fdoving> craig: kde. :)
[06:17] <Jucato> huh????
[06:17] <craig> it looks cooler
[06:17] <bekiil> Does anyone know a solution to my question ? please, annoying to have to do it manually
[06:17] <Jucato> trappist: I think you got the wrong person...
[06:17] <fdoving> craig: if you ask the same question in #ubuntu they will say gnome.
[06:18] <UmInAsHoE> brb trying new drivers
[06:18] <craig> yea stupid question!!!
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> best - depends on what you are doing.
[06:18] <trappist> Jucato: yep.  oops :)
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> If you ask the same question in #ubuntu you will probably get banned for trolling
[06:18] <Jucato> lol
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> (I have seen it happen before once)
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> they are too busy  tellking people to downgrade their X at the moment. :)
[06:19] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: we're nicer in here then. :)
[06:19] <Jucato> we're fewer in here.. ^_^
[06:19] <craig> :-)
[06:20] <fdoving> Jucato: the elite. :)
[06:20] <synaptics> Jucato: i edited my source list and put in  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main                and           deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main              but wine doesnt seem to work
[06:20] <Jucato> yeah!
[06:20] <Jucato> hmm.. where did you get those repositories synaptics?
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> wine is angry :(
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> using wine right now to run utorrent.exe :)
[06:21] <synaptics> i got it from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:21] <DaSkreech> bekiil: What question?
[06:21] <synaptics> any ideas why wine doesnt work?
[06:21] <synaptics> i did the sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> what 'dosent' work about it?
[06:21] <Agios> xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 is the fixed one?
[06:21] <rigo_lap> hi all, somebody with ati radeon upgraded Xorg this morning from 6.06 TLS and has a hint where to find a solution to the regression?
[06:22] <Jucato> Agios: yes
[06:22] <Agios> k, thx :)
[06:22] <Electrolyte> Anyone remember that command to enable hardware buffers for Audigy 2 sound cards?
[06:22] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[06:22] <Electrolyte> Removed my Yamaha XG card :/
[06:22] <synaptics> Dr_Willis:  i cant get it to run. it says, it cannot find the specified command
[06:22] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:22] <rigo_lap> Jucato: Thanks a lot
[06:22] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[06:23] <Jucato> rigo_lap: sure no problem
[06:23] <bekiil> DaSkreech: I have to remove the psmouse module on every reboot/shutdown
[06:23] <synaptics> any ideas how i can get wine to work?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> bekiil: how come?
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> synaptics: corkscrew ?
[06:24] <synaptics> lol
[06:24] <synaptics> not that kind of wine
[06:24] <bekiil> hm, Laptop issue
[06:24] <Electrolyte> I can't actually remember the person who gave me this command actually to enable hardware buffers in ALSA.
[06:24] <Electrolyte> And I said actually twice :/
[06:25] <bekiil> if i dont remove the module boots takes 20sec longer, somtimes kb is gone too
[06:25] <bekiil> brb
[06:26] <KaiserSuse> Hi.. some time ago I read about a configuration file where I could "hardlink" Ethernet NIC MAC with their interface names so that they wouldn't change... what was that?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  whats the exact command ya are doing?
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> KaiserSuse: /etc/iftab ? (I think it is something like that)
[06:28] <craig> can you get Dreamweaver 8 to work with wine
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> craig, http://appdb.winehq.or
[06:28] <synaptics> let me double check it Dr_Willis
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> craig, http://appdb.winehq.org
[06:28] <synaptics> i think i missed out something
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> example wine ussage.... (wine 101)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> wget http://download.utorrent.com/1.6/utorrent.exe
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> wine utorrent.exe
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:30] <Electrolyte> No one knows what the command is to enable hardware buffers via ALSA then? I know for a fact it was someone in here.
[06:30] <flattersr> hi room
[06:30] <Ash-Fox> Electrolyte, I would think it's a modprobe parameter.
[06:31] <Electrolyte> Not sure, it was just a small command that worked extremely well in SuSE.
[06:32] <synaptics> !easysource
[06:32] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:32] <RogueX> Can anyone tell me how to get the menus to go in Alphbet order again after adding addional apps???
[06:33] <flattersr> hi all,  i have install kubuntu on my system and i have been trying to install yahoo messenger but it working
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> What do ya think this is! windows! :P
[06:33] <flattersr> any ideas
[06:33] <trappist> Electrolyte: it was probably crimsun
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> RogueX,  actually ive never noticed that. :)
[06:34] <Electrolyte> Hmm.
[06:34] <craig> WOW you can install Dreamweaver MX!!!!!!!!
[06:34] <Electrolyte> Well, I can't seem to find it :E
[06:34] <flattersr> but it not working i ment to say sorry
[06:34] <synaptics> craig: really? what about flash 8?
[06:34] <craig> Flash MX
[06:34] <markrian> flattersr, Kopete (Kubuntu's instant messenger) connects to the yahoo network
[06:34] <synaptics> ahhhh i see
[06:34] <craig> but you can only download it on a P2P
[06:35] <Ash-Fox> markrian, the current version does it badly.
[06:35] <synaptics> craig: have you tried running adobe photoshop cs?
[06:35] <craig> MX was before "8"
[06:35] <craig> no not yet
[06:35] <flattersr> right so i dont have to bother with yahoo messenger
[06:35] <trappist> Electrolyte: if it was said in here, I probably have it logged.  I'm looking now.
[06:35] <flattersr> that fair
[06:35] <synaptics> yeah. ive got 8 in my other system
[06:35] <Electrolyte> Yeah it was said in here trappist, but about a week ago I think :E
[06:35] <RogueX> Dr_Willis: Well for example I just added Smb4k and its now at the top of the Utilities menu ahead of Arc, Kate, and the rest
[06:35] <markrian> flattersr, Ash-Fox tells me that Kopete doesn't actually connect to Yahoo very well...
[06:35] <Electrolyte> I've only just got Kubuntu all working after a LAN I was.
[06:35] <Electrolyte> I was at*
[06:35] <markrian> flattersr, but there are alternatives
[06:36] <flattersr> and they are?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Kopete does pretty well for me
[06:36] <craig> I have tried 8 on kubuntu but have all failed
[06:36] <Ash-Fox> Yes, bitlbee, gaim, centericq (I think that's the console based one)
[06:36] <trappist> Electrolyte: I found you asking about it
[06:36] <Electrolyte> :)
[06:37] <Ash-Fox> DaSkreech, kopete is always dropping my yahoo connection randomly.
[06:37] <synaptics> good think i still have MX here
[06:37] <synaptics> thing*
[06:37] <markrian> Ash-Fox, which version of Kopete do you have?
[06:37] <Ash-Fox> 0.11.1
[06:38] <craig> where can you download MX??
[06:38] <markrian> Ash-Fox, well, the APT version that is - `dpkg -l kopete` or whatever you like to use
[06:39] <synaptics> i got it from a friend. he bought it and i just borrowed it from him
[06:39] <craig> ok
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> ii  kopete                              3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2                    instant messenger for KDE
[06:39] <exotic> when i try to dpkg .deb file i get : dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege, any help please?
[06:39] <synaptics> its been here for almost a year now *lol* . i dont think he needs it
[06:39] <RogueX> Can anyone tell me how to get the menus to go in Alphbet order again after adding addional apps???
[06:39] <DaSkreech> !kopete
[06:39] <ubotu> kopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[06:40] <exotic> any help please?
[06:41] <trappist> Electrolyte: I didn't find anything on that
[06:41] <Kream> hi all
[06:41] <DaSkreech> RogueX: don't know of a fast way off the top of my head. Try KmenuEdit
[06:41] <craig> does anyone know where the directory for wine is?? (where all the files are downloaded)
[06:41] <Electrolyte> Damn :(
[06:41] <Electrolyte> I swear someone gave me a command in this channel.
[06:42] <trappist> Electrolyte: could it have had something to do with a module parameter, like index=0? (I'm pretty sure that just says which sound card is which, but it's all I found in the logs)
[06:42] <looktj> i cant boot up
[06:42] <synaptics> will kubuntu have any support for synaptics touchpad drivers?
[06:42] <Electrolyte> No it wasn't that.
[06:42] <Electrolyte> That part is sorted.
[06:42] <RogueX> DaSkreech: I looked at that.. I can drag them in order but what a pain since it's quite out of order from removeing and adding apps
[06:42] <Kream> am migrating the computers in my lab (which used to run gentoo) to kubuntu. I'm having trouble getting the w32codecs packages to work since both ftp.cipherfunk.org and the PLF ubuntu repositories are down. can someone who has working w32codecs support paste me their sources.list file ?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  it installed/confifgured that by default on my laptop..so I guess thats a YES :)
[06:43] <Jucato> trappist, Electrolyte I think there are logs for #kubuntu available online...
[06:43] <Jucato> !ubuntulog
[06:43] <looktj> help  i cant boot x
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntulog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <synaptics> Dr_Willis: how do you disable tapping ?
[06:43] <looktj> meaning i cant update it
[06:43] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: hang on get you wget ...
[06:43] <DaSkreech> RogueX: Mine does it by itself I'm not sure what there is is to do it automatically
[06:43] <Electrolyte> Just checking if anyone in #alsa is around.
[06:43] <trappist> !logs
[06:43] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:43] <looktj> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:43] <Kream> Thanks, TheGateKeeper
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> Kream:
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  edit the xorg.conf and use the right option, i guess. :P  never messed with it myself. but it seems to be a FAQ
[06:44] <Kream> TheGateKeeper: thanks a bunch, that should work fine.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  also theres a little icon-tray widget on my laptop that has that option in it.
[06:44] <synaptics> i tried that out. but it doesnt work
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Either ya did it wrong. :P or you dident restart X after changeing the file
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> or it dont work. :P
[06:45] <synaptics> Dr_Willis: i did restart. i only changed the value from true to false
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: yw :-) bookmark this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:45] <RogueX> DaSkreech: yea it use to do it on its own but as more things changed it got mixed up
[06:45] <Electrolyte> trappist, I found it.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/
[06:45] <Electrolyte> it was you :P
[06:45] <Electrolyte> ps aux | grep arts <-- is the command.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> If you set MaxTapTime=0 in the X config file then the touchpad will not use tapping at all, i.e. touching/tapping will not be taken as a mouse click.
[06:46] <synaptics> ahh, so i have to download the files
[06:46] <looktj> help!
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[06:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:47] <Electrolyte> I think #kubuntu has a bad version of ALSA :/
[06:47] <Kream> TheGateKeeper: i've looked at the kubuntu wiki today, it still contains references to plf's repositories, which closed sometime ago
[06:47] <Electrolyte> I still have pops when playing wave files and the volume of audio changes when played by the system.
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: hang on...
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: I have corrected it: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: more usefull bit & pieces here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[06:49] <synaptics> omg. its 12.49am
[06:49] <Jucato> synaptics: what the? are we in the same timezone?
[06:49] <synaptics> +8GMT
[06:49] <Kream> aha
[06:49] <Jucato> synaptics: yeah...
[06:50] <synaptics> where u from?
[06:50] <Jucato> Philippines. ehehehe
[06:50] <Kream> TheGateKeeper: no, it's got the plf repositories too
[06:50] <Electrolyte> What's happened to the FAQ? I can no longer find the automatic script for mounting NTFS partitions for read only :(
[06:50] <synaptics> haha. not far from my country
[06:50] <synaptics> im in Brunei
[06:51] <Jucato> ehehe I guessed so :-D
[06:51] <nixternal> !exploit
[06:51] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware or connect to irc.freenode.net:8001 - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> !composite
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <bekiil> Now. How about ipw3945, how do i get it working, :)
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: yes but they are corrected PLF ones, the ones on the wiki site wil error out, but for the w32codecs the wget I gave you is a better bet
[06:52] <Electrolyte> I found it - I think.
[06:52] <synaptics> hmm, i will surely be sleeping at work today
[06:53] <Jucato> lol
[06:53] <Kream> TheGateKeeper: hm. dig packages.freecontrib.org doesn't resolve
[06:53] <Electrolyte> There we go, disks mounted :)
[06:54] <TheGateKeeper> brb
[06:55] <synaptics> ahhh, i just got wine working
[06:55] <synaptics> lol
[06:55] <trappist> I can't think of a reason we can't have a wine package that works out of the box
[06:55] <Jucato> synaptics: how did you do it?
[06:56] <synaptics> i forgot to use another command
[06:56] <synaptics> lol
[06:56] <synaptics> missed out one
[06:56] <sm> Pozdrawiam wszystkich
[06:57] <Jucato> which command?
[06:57] <Ash-Fox> !pl
[06:57] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:57] <synaptics> now, how do i uninstall something from wine
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> Kream: that is the set of repos that I use
[06:57] <flattersr> From the Kopete menu how do i select groups to get into chat rooms
[06:57] <Jucato> synaptics: "wine <installer_filename.exe>"
[06:57] <sm> Dziekuje
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> or just delete the .wine/c_drive or whatever and have a clean install :P
[06:59] <synaptics> ahh, thanks Dr_Willis
[06:59] <synaptics> thats better
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> theres lots of neat littel tricks with wine
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Using wine to run utorrent at the moment.. it works.. with just a few little bugglets
[07:00] <synaptics> where is the wine/c_drive located?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> .wine
[07:00] <Dr_Willis>  and it would be in your home dir - of course. :P
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> i always make a link to that c_drive or whatever its called to my Homedir. :)
[07:00] <flattersr> Just wondering how do i get the list of chat rooms to show on Kopete
[07:01] <andred> flattersr: chat rooms are not yet supported in kopete
[07:01] <flattersr> ah
[07:01] <flattersr> so.....
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> You will STAY in IRC forever! :P
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> 4-ever!
[07:01] <onTecHno> I can't install Samba because of dependencies: samba: depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 shoul dbe installed
[07:02] <flattersr> what can i use so that i can get the chat rooms to show
[07:02] <Jucato> anyone else experiencing disconnections in Yahoo using Kopete?
[07:02] <draik> Hello everyone.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> onTecHno,  i think at this time theres a lot of server updates going on.
[07:02] <draik> What's the word?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> onTecHno,  ya may need to do a apt-get update/upgrade  again
[07:02] <draik> THUNDERBIRD!
[07:02] <Jucato> KMAIL
[07:02] <Jucato> lol
[07:02] <draik> Jucato?
[07:02] <draik> you're up?
[07:02] <draik> This is new
[07:02] <Jucato> told ya I'd still be up
[07:02] <onTecHno> Dr_Willis: I did it just right now
[07:02] <Jucato> ^_^
[07:02] <draik> whoa
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> onTecHno,  from what i am hearing - the servers are updateing as we speek. :P
[07:03] <draik> Dude... /nick JucatoZombie
[07:03] <Jucato> Just finished the transcripts about an hour ago. that was what kept me up :-D
[07:03] <onTecHno> Dr_Willis: what do you think when the alst update of samba was?
[07:03] <draik> I haven't finished cuz I was working on the winxp
[07:03] <Jucato> oh
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> onTecHno,  no idea. after seeing all the issues today in #ubuntu - i am waiting 2 days or so befor i next update/upgrade. :P
[07:04] <draik> I still don't understand why she was an admin and cannot have access to her own ~/Desktop
[07:04] <Jucato> draik: http://jucato.multiply.com/journal/item/31
[07:04] <draik> no other admins have access to it either
[07:04] <onTecHno> Dr_Willis: it's something with X isn't it?
[07:05] <Jucato> draik: btw, I think it's safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core IF the version you're upgrading to ends in 10.4
[07:05] <synaptics> Dr_Willis: which directory in wine should i delete?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> onTecHno,  yea. :) #ubuntu is flooded with people asking about it.
[07:05] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[07:05] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  it has a 'program files' directory in there somewhere.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> synaptics,  or delete the whole thing. and it will get remade next ya run .wine
[07:05] <onTecHno> Dr_Willis: well I knew it wouldn't be a good idea to update it now ;)
[07:05] <synaptics> is it /home/kubuntu/.kde/share/applnk/Wine
[07:05] <danl> how incrediably bad of an idea is it to chmod u+s apt-get ?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> danl,  why bother. :)
[07:06] <trappist> danl: pretty incredibly bad
[07:06] <danl> so i don't have to sudo and type password ;-)
[07:06] <trappist> danl: anybody could install (or maybe worse, uninstall) anything
[07:06] <Jucato> superbly incredibly totally absolutely bad
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> danl,  Egads! the Humanity!
[07:06] <trappist> danl: so make yourself a NOPASSWD sudoer
[07:06] <synaptics> ok got it so i'll just delete the program files
[07:06] <danl> didn't know i could trappist
[07:07] <Jucato> synaptics: wine also has it's own "Remove Programs"
[07:07] <trappist> danl: trappist@monk:~$ sudo grep trappist /etc/sudoers
[07:07] <trappist> trappist ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[07:07] <synaptics> Jucato: where can i find it?
[07:07] <draik> will check on that now
[07:07] <draik> thx, Jucato
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> wine spywaresetup.exe  :)
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> see what spyware puts where!
[07:08] <draik> Very clean transcript, too.
[07:08] <synaptics> lol
[07:08] <draik> Dr_Willis, that's interesting... can spyware actually run on linux?
[07:08] <Jucato> synaptics: in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows you  will find uninstall.exe
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> I have installed spyware with wine.. just to see what it puts where on my windows systems. :)
[07:08] <Jucato> draik: spyware can run in Windows on VMWare..
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> and ran wrapper scripts that install 'wallpaper' and so forth   that include spyware - just to unwrap the stuff
[07:09] <draik> Quick question on that... who in their right mind would run windows???
[07:09] <Jucato> draik: hm....
[07:09] <draik> Anyone here having issues with Adept and 'apt-get update'?
[07:09] <onTecHno> draik: everyone who hasn't the time to configure a sambaserver jsut to share a single file in a network
[07:09] <draik> Headers stuck at 99%
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> draik,  if you need a application.. and it only works under windows.. you dont have any options.
[07:10] <Jucato> draik: check your sources.list
[07:10] <synaptics> thanks Jucato
[07:10] <draik> I suppose
[07:10] <flattersr> When i was running Ubuntu 5.10 yahoo messenger work
[07:10] <flattersr> including the sound and cam
[07:10] <flattersr> but now
[07:10] <flattersr> nothing
[07:10] <flattersr> will not install
[07:11] <Jucato> anyone else here having some connection problems with Yahoo in Kopete?
[07:11] <flattersr> cos im using 6.06
[07:11] <draik> I haven't used windoze for quite some time... well, except for the past 2-3 days working on a friend's desktop... and you can ask Jucato about the fun behind that
[07:11] <Jucato> lol
[07:11] <danl> how do you force apt-get to ignore a broken dependency?
[07:11] <flattersr> jucato: are you able to access the chat rooms through Kopete
[07:11] <Jucato> flattersr: haven't tried
[07:12] <flattersr> ah
[07:12] <Jucato> I only use YM for one-on-one chats...
[07:12] <flattersr> jucato: i have and theres not functionality that allow the user to access the chat room
[07:13] <draik> compiz-core, compiz-plugins.... are they safe?
[07:14] <Omega> hi everyone in?
[07:14] <draik> in what?
[07:14] <whizz-> help..! my kubuntu suddenly boots into text-mode..
[07:14] <Jucato> whizz-:
[07:14] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[07:15] <Omega> oh...well.It's my problem too...After updating the xorg-xserver
[07:15] <synaptics> ok, why all of the sudden my kubuntu has a black screen?
[07:15] <Omega> Thanks Jucato!
[07:15] <draik> Jucato, 10.4 is ok, right?
[07:16] <Jucato> draik: yeah
[07:16] <Jucato> I'm using that right now
[07:16] <draik> and away it goes
[07:16] <draik> WTF?
[07:16] <Jucato> ??
[07:16] <draik> it didn't accept any of the updates
[07:17] <draik> compiz, compiz-core, compiz-plugins, xserver-xorg-core
[07:17] <Omega> ok...you confirm me? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[07:17] <richardh_> Hi...anyone know why wlan doesn't connect at startup when using a WEP key?
[07:17] <draik> everything was upgradable
[07:17] <draik> then it says that it would break
[07:17] <draik> ???
[07:17] <synaptics> hey quicktime 7.1 crashes when i try to instal it
[07:17] <Jucato> draik: you've got compiz installed?
[07:17] <draik> yup
[07:17] <Jucato> oh
[07:18] <draik> why?
[07:18] <Jucato> nothing. just asked :-D
[07:18] <draik> with no reason?
[07:18] <Electrolyte> Most of my music is MP3 and I can't find a free MP3 codec for Xine :/
[07:18] <Jucato> draik: yep. with no reason
[07:18] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: try libxine-extracodecs
[07:19] <draik> mmmmmmm... ok
[07:19] <Electrolyte> OK.
[07:19] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs
[07:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:19] <TheGateKeeper> Electrolyte: libxine-extracodecs
[07:19] <Electrolyte> Can I find that via adept?
[07:19] <draik> http://www.beerorkid.com is giving me an error for the update
[07:19] <Omega> Jucato...what was the problem with x-server?
[07:19] <Electrolyte> Perhaps not.
[07:20] <Jucato> a buggy update (1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3)
[07:20] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[07:20] <Omega> you have to add multiverse repository Electrolyte
[07:20] <TheGateKeeper> Electrolyte: yes, although you may need to modify your repos depending on what you have
[07:20] <Electrolyte> How do I do that/
[07:20] <Jucato> Electrolyte: yes you can. you just need the multiverse repositories
[07:20] <Electrolyte> ?*
[07:20] <Jucato> Electrolyte: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:20] <synaptics> ok, im out people. gonna watch some dvds and go to sleep
[07:20] <Electrolyte> Thanks :)
[07:20] <Jucato> bye synaptics!
[07:20] <synaptics> see ya Jucato
[07:20] <Jucato> don't sleep at work later
[07:20] <synaptics> lol
[07:20] <TheGateKeeper> Electrolyte: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[07:21] <Omega> bye synaptic
[07:21] <synaptics> yeah. i'll have to drink black coffee later
[07:21] <Jucato> synaptics: don't drink it
[07:21] <Jucato> just eat the powder!
[07:21] <Jucato> powder/granules/etc
[07:21] <synaptics> lol
[07:21] <Jucato> no sugar, no cream, no milk, no water
[07:22] <crrj> Chocolate covered coffee beans are the way to go.
[07:22] <Omega> so the problem with xserver was with beerorkid mirrors updating!
[07:22] <dhq> hey all
[07:22] <Omega> guaran...synaptic. It works
[07:23] <dhq> my prob : well i can burn a dvd-rw 4X cd with out any errors but when i put a dvdr cd i get iput output error
[07:23] <flattersr> jucato: if you need to get on to the chat rooms in Yahoo you install gaim
[07:24] <Jucato> flattersr: I'll keep that in mind. thanks!
[07:24] <Omega> Thankyou Jucato for your advice! Tomorrow i will try to make a X resurrection!
[07:24] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:24] <Jucato> Omega: you could also check if the fixed package is already available
[07:24] <Jucato> the 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[07:24] <flattersr> no probs i can now use the superglue to glue my hair back
[07:24] <CVirus> LOL .. I was wondering how didnt the broken update break my X !!
[07:24] <draik> I got the update
[07:24] <draik> no issue here
[07:25] <draik> only issue seems to be with the update
[07:25] <flattersr> is that the sever update
[07:25] <Omega> well, now here is 19.30....Nothing will keep me away from my dinner. Xserver too!
[07:25] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:25] <flattersr> server i ment to say
[07:25] <draik> packages.freecontrib.org
[07:25] <Electrolyte> I added multiverse and fetched the updates but I still can't see libxine-extracodecs.
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: did you add multiverse to dapper-backports?
[07:26] <flattersr> Any other supprise i should be looking out for on Kubuntu
[07:26] <Omega> Now i am writing at home...waiting for water (for spaghetti) to boil
[07:26] <Jucato> depends on what you mean by "surprise"
[07:26] <Jucato> grrr!! don't talk about food!!!
[07:27] <Electrolyte> Ah, no worries - I got it.
[07:27] <flattersr> mmmm foood
[07:27] <draik> I still haven't had breakfast
[07:27] <flattersr> too late
[07:27] <Electrolyte> The image of that FAQ was misleading.
[07:27] <draik> delicious, mouth-watering breakfast
[07:27] <Jucato> staying up late = hungry
[07:27] <draik> LOL
[07:27] <dhq> my prob in k3b gnomebaker  well i can burn a dvd-rw 4X cd with out any errors but when i put a dvdr cd i get iput output error
[07:27] <Electrolyte> It was the first 2 lines I had to edit, not the ones after the comments.
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: :-)
[07:27] <Omega> Electrolyte...you could intall Automatix
[07:27] <Electrolyte> Automatix?
[07:28] <_gplfighter> !automatix
[07:28] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:28] <Electrolyte> I think I have everything sorted now :)
[07:28] <Omega> Sorry Jucato. For your advice i should cook for you too.
[07:28] <Electrolyte> All I need is to fix the sound engine.
[07:28] <Jucato> hm... spaghetti...
[07:28] <Jucato> grr...
[07:29] <Omega> Greetings from Italy
[07:29] <Omega> to everybody :-)
[07:29] <Jucato> ehehe the birthplace of spaghetti...
[07:29] <katje> Hello from Canada Omega
[07:29] <Omega> hi katje!
[07:29] <Jucato> It's 1:30 am here in the Philippines... @_@
[07:30] <grisha_> hi all
[07:30] <ketsugi> Jucato: same here (Singapore)
[07:30] <Omega> oh Jucato...of beautiful women too.
[07:30] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:30] <Omega> Ketsugi... I lllove your spaghetti
[07:30] <Jucato> grr... food....
[07:31] <Jucato> It's too late to sneak to the kitchen to get something to eat...
[07:31] <Omega> what hour is it?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato of the Beautiful Women. I guess there are worse titles to hold
[07:31] <Jucato> 1:30am...
[07:31] <Electrolyte> So much closer to forgetting WIndows for normal desktop stuff now \o/
[07:31] <Jucato> lol!
[07:31] <grisha_> jucato: Depends where you live. It's only 19:33 here.
[07:31] <katje> It's 10:30am here
[07:31] <Electrolyte> Only thing I'll be using Windows for now is games and audio recording :D
[07:31] <grisha_> 7:33pm :)
[07:31] <Electrolyte> Which I don't do often :e
[07:32] <Electrolyte> :E*
[07:32] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:32] <Electrolyte> 6:28PM here.
[07:32] <Omega> hey...you are saying that the earth is spheric! Ereticous YOU all!
[07:32] <Jucato> I used to keep Windows around for online games. But I've had my hands full with Linux to bother with them...
[07:32] <grisha_> Electrolyte: You live close. GMT.
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Flat Earth Society to the ends of the Earth!!!
[07:32] <Electrolyte> Yup :)
[07:32] <Jucato> it's 5:33pm UTC
[07:33] <Omega> ye DASkreech..
[07:33] <Jucato> the earth ain't flat!!
[07:33] <Jucato> it's cylindrical...
[07:33] <Omega> mmm people. It's 5 o'clock somewhere!
[07:33] <grisha_> Our timezone is called CET :) And there is a damn big storm here. :S
[07:33] <Omega> Jucato..you're a fine topograph
[07:34] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:34] <Omega> I'm somethingh about too
[07:34] <Jucato> Cylindrical = explains why you can go around the world, but also explains how you can fall off the edge :-D
[07:35] <Electrolyte> Time to remove all the Window's desktop images I have on DeviantArt and put up my Linux one :)
[07:35] <Jucato> lol!
[07:35] <Omega> sometimes happens that i drink a red water..then after having drunk a lot i feel like i'm falling on the edge
[07:35] <Jucato> you can always keep them around Electrolyte
[07:35] <Electrolyte> They're not wallpaper before you ask ;P
[07:35] <Electrolyte> It's a screen shot OF the desktop :P
[07:35] <katje> Electrolyte:  That was the first thing that I had done on DA as well
[07:36] <Jucato> lol
[07:36] <Electrolyte> :D
[07:36] <Jucato> DeviantArtists....
[07:36] <erov> sounds like youve been drinking green water
[07:36] <Omega> sometimes erov
[07:36] <Electrolyte> I'm not an artist jucato, I'm an ArtAppreciator :)
[07:36] <Jucato> lol!
[07:36] <erov> yum
[07:36] <Electrolyte> I'm finally glad I can use Linux.
[07:37] <Jucato> red water.. green water...
[07:37] <DaSkreech> I don't knwo art but I know that I appreciate!
[07:37] <Electrolyte> And thanks goes to everyone here :P
[07:37] <katje> feels good doesn't?
[07:37] <Omega> One day i made a screenshot of the Desktop of a friend of mine. I put the screenshot as the desktop and moved away all icons. He went crazy in 30 sec
[07:37] <Jucato> ok... has any of our dicussion for the past 5 minutes revolved around Kubuntu? ^_^
[07:37] <Jucato> about Kubuntu support, I mean...
[07:37] <Electrolyte> LOL Omega!
[07:37] <erov> it'll get to it in a round-about way,Jucato
[07:38] <Jucato> ehehe
[07:38] <Omega> I have Master I have a question about Kubuntu!
[07:38] <Jucato> Omega: that was cruel... but totally hilarious!
[07:38] <onTecHno> (join #kubuntu-de
[07:38] <bekiil> ipw3945?
[07:38] <Omega> Master is you, Jucato!
[07:38] <bekiil> Please, a guide to get ipw3945 working.
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Omega: I did that as well. It's dead funny
[07:39] <Jucato> lol! I ain't no Mastah! :-D
[07:39] <Omega> Is Kubunu like Windows?
[07:39] <Jucato> I'll probably do that to my sister. Thanks for the tip!
[07:39] <erov> did the xserver-org update earlier break Kubuntu as well?
[07:39] <Jucato> Omega: depends on what you mean  by "like"
[07:39] <katje> Omega:  That's funny,  I want to do that do my co-workers now
[07:39] <grisha_> Omega: LSA causing symptoms like that! lol
[07:39] <Jucato> erov: yep. all throughout the known Ubuntu universe
[07:39] <Jucato> even MEPIS
[07:39] <onTecHno> Omega: lol
[07:39] <katje> Erov:  I installed the update and haven't had a problem with it
[07:39] <Omega> Touch Jucato. I moved from Windows to Linux for desperation
[07:40] <noowner> does anyone know what filesystem is the initrd image in /boot ? need to mount it and remove vga16fb and put nvidiafb instead
[07:40] <Omega> katje...that friend of mine has tried to beat me with an estinctor
[07:40] <bekiil> ?ipw3945
[07:40] <onTecHno> Omega: just hope that you don't play any games and don't make such things like sharing files in a network - then you'll be fine with kubuntu
[07:41] <Jucato> Kubuntu, or KDE for that matter, is like windows in the sense that it's color scheme is mostly blue, it has one panel at the bottom, it has a button  at the left-most side of that panel which launches your list of programs, etc...
[07:41] <erov> I dread rebooting.. I already applied the "fix" though
[07:41] <Omega> onTech...i play Wesnoth and i share my files on my working network with my collegues without problems
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> onTecHno: just use scp for moving files around
[07:41] <katje> Omega:  It's still funny.  My manager just told me the other day that he's quit.  May-be on his last day I'll try to do that to him as a good bye joke
[07:42] <linuxkid2> Jucato: but that IS the end of the similarities really. Well, I suppose Konqueror could be compared to Explorer cause it's a file manager/web browser.
[07:42] <grisha_> onTecHno: You can do both under Kubuntu. There are hundreds of games, I play America's army, for ex. And you can share everything you want ony any kind of net.
[07:42] <onTecHno> h3sp4wn: scp? not smb?
[07:42] <Electrolyte> I should get UT2004 installed on Linux.
[07:42] <Omega> well...and he could say to you after your joke:" me? Quit..it was a joke!"
[07:42] <onTecHno> grisha_: well I had lots of problems sharing files with a Windows computer
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> onTecHno: scp is the ssh copy function - or you can use shfs that is pretty good as well (just mounts a filesystem over ssh)
[07:42] <katje> Yeah... that wouldn't be good
[07:43] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[07:43] <linuxkid2> Sharing with is one thing, but accessing shares is easy.
[07:43] <Omega> my last message was for katje
[07:43] <h3sp4wn> onTecHno: No need for samba unless you need to interoperate with windows
[07:43] <onTecHno> h3sp4wn: well I have to
[07:43] <Omega> Well if your boss will say that to you it will be a GOOOOD joke
[07:43] <linuxkid2> h3sp4wn: Isn't shfs called fish:/ in konqueror?
[07:43] <grisha_> onTecHno: I used samba for that. Luckily I have no more wore winc comp. in may flat (only two with UHU LInux/Kubuntu linux) but file sharing worked just well
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Nice ammendment! :)
[07:44] <Jucato> lol
[07:44] <noowner> so, about kubuntu... i need to know how to mount the initrd image and/or to select nvidiafb instead of vga16fb ; anyone? help!
[07:44] <DaSkreech> I have a problem :)
[07:44] <onTecHno> h3sp4wn: and there is no good support for NTFS either, ntfsprogs doesn't work very well
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> linuxkid2: I just use shfs.sourceforge.net - that kernel module
[07:44] <Omega> Ok. I have to go babies!
[07:44] <bekiil> LOL, i used Adept Manager to install sun-java5-bin.xxxx and it stops at 20% cuz i have to accept a license deal, but, where do i press og or types yes, LOL
[07:44] <linuxkid2> h3sp4wn: k
[07:44] <grisha_> noowner: why would you like to use nvidiafb?
[07:45] <Omega> spaghetti are "al dente"
[07:45] <yalu> I am trying to install aiglx on kubuntu, but I've run into a problem: the package compiz-vanilla-kde  cannot be found. I am following http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068 , mainly
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> onTecHno: I have no need for ntfs or windows - no point in using a unix like os if all you want to do is make it like windows (may as well just use windows)
[07:45] <noowner> grisha_: because i've this allegro program(or examples) and vga16fb doesn't seem to work with them, no available resolution or smth
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> yalu: If you want aiglx its already in edgy
[07:46] <yalu> *must resist temptation to install bleeding edge distro versions*
[07:46] <linuxkid2> Is there a way that I can get konqueror to mount SMB shares with smbfs?
[07:46] <gaspock5> I heard that there was something wrong with this new xserver-xorg-core update. Should I cancel the update?
[07:46] <noowner> grisha_: oh and my board is nvidia, my X runs with nvidia module and sorts
[07:46] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[07:46] <Omega> Jucato...go and recompile your kernel!
[07:46] <Omega> at least 10 times
[07:46] <onTecHno> h3sp4wn: it's just that my parents won't change to Linux unless all their hardware does work perfectly and they need files from an external device which is ntfs-formatted and usually connected to my computer... so lol :D
[07:46] <gaspock5> Thanks Jucato
[07:46] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[07:47] <Ash-Fox> !captive-ntfs
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about captive-ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <onTecHno> Omega: Jucato = Bot ?
[07:47] <Ash-Fox> !ntfs
[07:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:47] <Jucato> me?
[07:47] <noowner> onTecHno: semibot lol; scripts :)
[07:47] <onTecHno> ok ;D
[07:47] <Jucato> hm....
[07:47] <Omega> ubuntu10 or ubuntu10.4?
[07:47] <onTecHno> 10.4
[07:47] <grisha_> noowner: I C, but why don't you use the official nvidia driver insted of nvidiafb?
[07:48] <Ash-Fox> they're the same package
[07:48] <Jucato> Omega: 10.4 is the safe version, 10.3 is the broken one...
[07:48] <Omega> Ah, Ok.
[07:48] <Ash-Fox> ubuntu10 and ubuntu10.4 contain the same binaries.
[07:48] <Omega> Thank you all!
[07:48] <gorus> anybody knows where i can get the newest libgphoto2 pkg ??
[07:49] <Omega> The most reliable thingh in Linux is that there are people like you helping me ;-)
[07:49] <onTecHno> Ash-Fox: what about readonly access only to ntfs ?
[07:49] <noowner> grisha_: i need to somehow have /dev/fb* to be able to use allegro(a graphics library) and if I disable splash i've no /dev/fb* devices; if i enable it i've only vga16fb and i could change that to nvidiafb if i could change it inside the initrd image from /boot
[07:49] <katje> hmm I updated my xserver this morning before I heard about it breaking ubuntu.  Nothing out of the ordanry happened.  Did my update just not work or something?
[07:49] <Ash-Fox> onTecHno, you can use captive NTFS to get around that?
[07:50] <Omega> oh no katje...if you use kde the problem is not
[07:50] <grisha_> noowner: ok, I C.
[07:50] <dabdine> question: i have a compaq presario r3000 laptop, and i'm trying to get my external monitor working with dapper (nvidia 440 go video card).  The function key doesn't work, and none of the settings in the display system control panel do anything.   How can I get the external monitor working?
[07:50] <linuxkid2> I ran my update but haven't restarted X yet so I'm still running the old one at the moment.
[07:50] <noowner> !initrd
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <Jucato> linuxkid2: if you upgraded it you won't be able to start X after you restart
[07:50] <Jucato> unless you upgraded to the fixed package
[07:50] <linuxkid2> Why?
[07:51] <linuxkid2> Which versio is that?
[07:51] <gaspock5> How can I dongrade my version of xine that amarok is depending on?
[07:51] <katje> you need to restart for the update?  I wonder if I should wait for the new update before I do
[07:51] <onTecHno> Ash-Fox: does it work as secure as ntfsprogs?
[07:51] <Jucato> broken version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3  fixed version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[07:51] <linuxkid2> Mine's ok.
[07:51] <Jucato> that's kool then
[07:52] <gaspock5> Jucato: how can i tell apt-get to get a version of libxine1 older than 1.1.1?
[07:53] <Jucato> ranunculoid: err.. I don't know.. sorry
[07:53] <noowner> katje: the new update(X that works) is already on some of the servers, at least the 'ro'(Romania) mirrors
[07:53] <onTecHno> Ash-Fox: does it work as secure as ntfsprogs?
[07:54] <ranunculoid> How can I get information on a package?
[07:54] <katje> noowner:  Do you think it may be on the 'ca'(Canada) mirrors?  I had updated mine almore 3 hours ago
[07:54] <Jucato> ranunculoid: you can either view it in Adept or in Konqueror by typing in "apt:
[07:54] <Jucato> ranunculoid: that was apt:/
[07:55] <Ash-Fox> onTecHno, I don't know what you mean by 'secure'.
[07:55] <grisha_> compositing looks great! Check this out:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/41454821%40N00/222147685/
[07:55] <grothesk> noowner: What ist die version# of the fixed xserver?
[07:55] <Ash-Fox> onTecHno, captive ntfs uses windows's own NTFS drivers for handling NTFS.
[07:55] <grisha_> I've just made the shot
[07:56] <onTecHno> Ash-Fox: so captive has no negative aspects? speed ok, too?
[07:56] <bekiil> damn, i will go back to Suse! thats for sure. all just works
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> onTecHno, reiserfs is faster in my expirence than NTFS.
[07:56] <larson9999> grisha_: that's what all the hoopla is about?  i think i'll pass for now.
[07:57] <onTecHno> Ash-Fox: well if it's so could you just tell me where to get startet so I can install it under Kubuntu? it isn't listed in the apt-tree
[07:57] <fdoving> grothesk: xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[07:57] <grothesk> bekiil: I just dropped Suse because nothing worked there for me *g*
[07:57] <Jucato> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[07:59] <Psychobudgie> oh chuffin marvellous, archive.ubuntu.com is timing out
[07:59] <noowner> grothesk: well on kubuntu 6.06 , mine it's xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_amd64.deb
[08:00] <noowner> katje: i dno, if it's the one fdoving said xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 then it may be :) look for it
[08:00] <grisha_> larson9999: i think it looks great. All the fading, transparency, glass, and shadow effects are amazing. I haven't tried them for 10 month, or so. Than they had many bugs. Firefox didn't work either. By now, most of the bugs are fixed. At last.
[08:00] <ranunculoid> xine version 1.1.1 has a *HUGE* bug, it cant play FLAC files. It's been over 5 weeks now and Ubuntu still haven't updated their repositories to the new xine and it seems to be nigh impossible to downgrade, It's really annoying me. Can sombody please help me?
[08:00] <ubuntu> yia
[08:01] <grisha_> ranunculoid: use xmms
[08:01] <Jucato> ranunculoid: I'm not absolutely sure, but I think a patch was going around for xine
[08:01] <grisha_> sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-skins xmms-flac
[08:01] <Jucato> ranunculoid: you could check ubuntuforum.org and kubuntuforums.net for some info
[08:01] <katje> noowner:  where would I go to look for it?
[08:01] <ranunculoid> grisha_: and can I use that engine through Amarok?
[08:01] <Ash-Fox> onTecHno, I'd start with reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS
[08:02] <larson9999> grisha_: perhaps it's just me but i don't like "All the fading, transparency, glass, and shadow effects."  i prefer to not to be able to see through documents and apps.  then again i turn off the bouncing ball and animated crap in kde.
[08:02] <grisha_> ranunculoid: i dont't know. I dont use amarok
[08:02] <ranunculoid> Jucato: I was on Kubuntu forums but they couldn't help me :(
[08:02] <ranunculoid> They just said it was a known bug
[08:02] <Jucato> ranunculoid: how about ubuntuforums.org? I think there's a patch going around...
[08:03] <ranunculoid> Ok I'll give ubuntuforums.org a shot
[08:03] <grisha_> larson9999: i hope u feel the main point. It's freedom. If you want them you can have them. If you don't....
[08:04] <grisha_> :)
[08:04] <larson9999> grisha_: sure.  the best of anything is the one you like.
[08:04] <noowner> katje: i guess u do a sudo apt-get update (to get all the lists updated) and then u do  apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core|grep Version
[08:04] <iuki> join #pt.wikipedia
[08:05] <katje> noowner:  thanks
[08:05] <Jucato> katje: or, you can use Adept Updater (adept_updater) and Fetch Updates, then check which version will it be upgraded to
[08:06] <grisha_> larson9999: Yes. There is a great hingarian proverb for this. I hope I can translate it to english.
[08:06] <noowner> katje: ur welcome:) i tried that on my system you should get two lines, first should be Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[08:07] <exotic> \list
[08:07] <noowner> katje: but i'm not sure that happens if you didn't download the package yet; it may be that it only shows the version of the package u had
[08:08] <noowner> katje: let me know what version you see :P
[08:10] <grisha_> larson9999: nope, I can't. :( it's impossible. But it means: Everyone is Different.
[08:10] <tarzan_> hi
[08:10] <grisha_> :D
[08:11] <tarzan_> my fresh installed kubuntu 6.06.1 runs dosfsck on every boot to check my fat32 partition..without finding errors (chkdsk unter win32 doesn't find errors either).. any reason for thie behaviour?
[08:11] <katje> noowner:  I got 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 so I guess I was worrying for no reason
[08:11] <oliver> hi, can someone tell me, how to rename Contacts in Kopete, Menuitem seems tp be gone in Version 012.1
[08:12] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !frostwire
[08:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:12] <DarkMist> hey guys
[08:12] <ketsugi> Wow, that's so totally cool.
[08:13] <noowner> katje: yes, that's the good version :) i'm happy for you ;;)
[08:13] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> whats totaly cool???
[08:13] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> hiding???
[08:13] <RogueX> System settings - File shareing is grayed out after I give Admin passwd any ideas??
[08:13] <Tm_T> oliver: er? it should be there
[08:14] <DarkMist> how can I set up pppoe connection?
[08:14] <Jucato> DarkMist: sudo pppoeconf  in Konsole
[08:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Ewwwwww   pppoe sux..
[08:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :p
[08:14] <Tm_T> oliver: rightclick -> properties
[08:14] <oliver> let me see
[08:14] <DarkMist> oh... didn't work for me :(
[08:14] <Jucato> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: not if it's your only means of connecting to the internet
[08:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> Jucato: true dat..
[08:15] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> sorry to hear that..  :-|
[08:15] <Surger> How can I tell ntp to sync my clock in Dapper? In Breezy I used to just restart the service (sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart) but that no longer works in Dapper.
[08:15] <oliver> Tm_T: i dont see it there
[08:15] <DarkMist> I'm using wlan router and wlan usb stick... any effect on that?
[08:15] <Tm_T> oliver: do you rightclick contact icon/pic or protocol icon? you should click the contact-one
[08:16] <Jucato> errr.. isn't "wlan" wireless? pppoeconf is only for wired PPPoE connections
[08:16] <RogueX> System settings - File shareing is grayed out after I give Admin passwd any ideas??
[08:16] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok, Im havin issues with frostwire.. :/
[08:17] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> anyone wanna help..
[08:17] <oliver> Tm_T: i dont see it, how is it called and what version do u have
[08:17] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> *waits even..  :p
[08:17] <grisha_> RogueX: same here
[08:18] <tarzan_> my fresh installed kubuntu 6.06.1 runs dosfsck on every boot to check my fat32 partition..without finding errors (chkdsk unter win32 doesn't find errors either).. any reason for thie behaviour?
[08:18] <RogueX> grisha_: must be missing some files but no idea what.
[08:19] <Tm_T> oliver: let's put it this way, I have used kopete a lot since 0.10.4
[08:19] <Tm_T> oliver: in 0.12 series there's even some of my doings ;)
[08:20] <Tm_T> oliver: so, all you really have to do is rightclick in correct spot
[08:20] <Tm_T> oliver: do you use contact pics in contact list?
[08:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok, so once I get frostwire installed, I open iot and it asks me to make the default save dir. for DLds but when I select the dir. it says it can;'t save it. My guess is because I had to use sudo pass to get it installed, I need to be root to run it, any way around this????
[08:21] <oliver> Tm_T: i know, it was there on the last version, actually my daughter uses it more than i do
[08:21] <Tm_T> oliver: well, it should just work
[08:21] <grisha_> RougueX: Maybe, samba is not running
[08:21] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  sounds like u may have disk issues..
[08:21] <oliver> i dont use contact pics
[08:21] <Tm_T> oliver: I see, let me do some debugging
[08:22] <RogueX> grisha_: Google is reporting its a Bug
[08:22] <Tm_T> oliver: yup, just rightclick that blue head
[08:22] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> so, anyone on the frostwire issue???
[08:22] <Tm_T> oliver: there should be "Properties"
[08:22] <oliver> i simply right click on the contact (offline/online) and second from below is "properties"
[08:23] <Tm_T> oliver: ...no now you're not clicking contact?
[08:23] <tarzan_> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: windows doesn't find any, and the smart information of my disk also seems fine
[08:23] <Tm_T> oliver: or, hm, you are, I have too much coffee
[08:24] <grisha_> RogueX: yes. I've found tons of posts too.
[08:24] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Did you run it as rot?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Root?
[08:24] <Tm_T> oliver: so, in properties you can se name to contact OR set from where that name is taken
[08:24] <Tm_T> oliver: "display name source"
[08:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  Hmmmmm  well, only thing I could figure is theres some bad sectors somewhere cause it wouldn't keep checking the disk every time you boot up..
[08:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech: yea, reed up..  /\
[08:25] <Naosz> guys had this issue twice now and any assist/guess would be great "kubuntu loads and sticks up the boot loading image" had to reinstall as Im a noob, any ideas what I might have done?
[08:25] <oliver> Tm_T: i see a window with 3 Tabs "Common", "Extended", User defined Messages"  (my translation since version is german
[08:25] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Why not just run it as you?
[08:25] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech: tried, but when you install, it asks for sudo pas..
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato, Ash-Fox: Naosz is talking to you :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Thats fine. You don't need to run it as sudo
[08:26] <Tm_T> oliver: yes, in that "common" (actually "general") there's about in the middle
[08:26] <Jucato> If you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[08:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: sorry, spaced out...
[08:26] <tarzan_> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: yo.. but smart show no new defect sectors... its been like this for quite a while
[08:26] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  ok so, how do I install without using sudo then??
[08:26] <oliver> Tm_T: OK i finally got it, man thats hidden
[08:26] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: What?
[08:26] <Tm_T> oliver: it's not =)
[08:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  so, I;m sayin, if "nothing" is wrong..  why does it keep checkin it..  Gte me?
[08:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  ok so, how do I install without using sudo then??
[08:27] <Tm_T> oliver: it's just not as separate, because of metacontacts
[08:27] <Ash-Fox> Naos, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:27] <Jucato> bye guys@
[08:27] <Jucato> and gals
[08:27] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: You installed it already Correct?
[08:27] <tarzan_> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: got it... this seems to be default in ubuntu
[08:28] <Tm_T> good night, behave well ->
[08:28] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech: yes, installed already
[08:28] <Naosz> thanks so much guys
[08:28] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  I have been runing dapper now for quiet a while and I never get a disk check when I boot up..
[08:28] <exotic> need some help please,...
[08:29] <oliver> Tm_T: got it, seems like i just didn't see it, thanks much for the help, virtual cake of beer is on the way
[08:29] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  whens the last time you did an update, or upgrade??
[08:29] <exotic> i installed java from: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin , and rebooted X server, yet when i run limewire, it insists to install java ??!!!
[08:29] <tarzan_> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: could you please msg me the line in your fstab for the fat32 volumes?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Right so how did you start it?
[08:29] <root_> i need help
[08:29] <root_> baad
[08:29] <fdoving> ask :)
[08:29] <DaSkreech> !ask
[08:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  I don't have fat32..   my slave drive is NTFS...
[08:30] <root_> last nights update to xsession killed my xserver
[08:30] <trappist> root_: please consider not getting on irc as root
[08:30] <fdoving> root_: try to update again. now.
[08:30] <root_> and now im trapped in recovery mode cli
[08:30] <fdoving> root_: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[08:30] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  waddya mean??    I just installed it with the .DEB package and once it gets to a certain point, it asks for sudo pass
[08:30] <xevil> root_: check the channel topic
[08:30] <root_> ok
[08:30] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Hmm Maybe I forgot how it installs
[08:31] <root_> the channel topic passed pretty quick so i couldnt read it
[08:31] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  Maybe..  :p
[08:31] <DaSkreech> root_: try /topic
[08:31] <root_> im using a cli irc client
[08:31] <root_> neat
[08:31] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  I would just like to be able to use it without having to log in as root..
[08:31] <exotic> trappist:i installed java using sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin command, yet when i run limewire, it still insists to install java, unable to locate jaav exec, any idea ?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: So you can't make a directory?
[08:31] <root_> ok i'll try it
[08:31] <root_> bye
[08:31] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  correct
[08:31] <ricky_ds> Hi all. This morning I installed one security patch and since then, the system doesn't start into the graphic mode. After the boot process, I can see on the screen "Running local boot scripts /etc/rc.local [ok] 
[08:31] <tarzan_> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: it seems like checking fat32 drives for errors every start is normal for ubuntu... i had to exclude it from checks editing my fstab
[08:32] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  unless, I'm logged as root
[08:32] <fdoving> ricky_ds: from the commandline run: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[08:32] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Werd
[08:32] <ricky_ds> fdoving, is this a known bug?
[08:32] <fdoving> ricky_ds: that will update to the newest and fixed version of the xserver.
[08:32] <trappist> exotic: you want sun-java5-jre
[08:32] <D4rkly> anyone know of a good online multiplayer linux FPS ?
[08:32] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tarzan_:  ahhhhh  then theres yur prob..  do a clean wipe and format and reinstall winblowz as NTFS, prob solved.. :p
[08:33] <trappist> D4rkly: ut2004
[08:33] <fdoving> ricky_ds: yes, poor quality assurance on a security fix.
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> trappist: What was the phrase you searched for on google to make the fonts look decent in kde ?
[08:33] <Naosz> D4rkly I play enemy territory :)
[08:33] <ricky_ds> fdoving, ok, thanx a million times
[08:33] <trappist> h3sp4wn: font deuglification howto
[08:33] <exotic> trappist: aha, so do i uninstall java-5-bin ?
[08:33] <trappist> exotic: not necessary
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> trappist: perfect
[08:33] <D4rkly> Quake wars ??
[08:33] <fdoving> ricky_ds: you're welcome.
[08:33] <ricky_ds> bye all
[08:33] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: You did the update-alternative java ?
[08:34] <Naosz> lol, not yet. just plain old ET
[08:34] <trappist> DaSkreech: that would be sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:34] <tarzan_> i was thinking more of installing windows using xen
[08:34] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> DaSkreech:  yes..   don't start with the Java thing..    *sheesh*...
[08:34] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :p
[08:34] <exotic> trappist: done, i'll reboot X server, and see if it works
[08:34] <D4rkly> oh wolfenstine
[08:35] <DaSkreech> trappist: If he did it he knows what I'm talking about :)
[08:35] <fdoving> tarzan_: is that possible? i think windows would need to be hacked to support xen first. (unless the cpu supports virtualization)
[08:35] <trappist> exotic: don't do that
[08:35] <exotic> trappist:why?
[08:35] <katje> bye all.  thanks for the help
[08:35] <D4rkly> have you seen Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
[08:35] <trappist> exotic: it's completely unnecessary
[08:35] <exotic> trappist:it says: sun-java5-jre is already the newest version.
[08:35] <trappist> exotic: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:35] <dein> how do i update again?
[08:36] <trappist> dein: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:36] <tarzan_> fdovin: arr yo... forgot about that :) time to kick ass and buy new hardware
[08:36] <dein> did that
[08:36] <fdoving> dein: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[08:36] <dein> no new packages
[08:36] <dein> ok
[08:36] <dein> ill try that
[08:36] <dein> brb
[08:37] <exotic> trappist:thanx, it works now
[08:38] <Naosz> D4rkly I have & looks awesome but we will get shot discussing it here on the kubuntu chan ;)
[08:38] <fdoving> Naosz,d4rkly i suggest taking it to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:39] <dein> still broken
[08:39] <fdoving> dein: if it didn't work make sure you've enabled the dapper-updates repository.
[08:39] <Dannilion> anyone know why I can't update? I'm using the British repos, and it's got the fixed X thingie
[08:39] <dein> apt-get doesn't see any updateable packages
[08:39] <xevil> fdoving: so the new package xserver-xorg-core is fixed and on the servers?
[08:40] <dein> how would i do that fdoving, i've only done it in adept before
[08:40] <fdoving> xevil: yes, it's in the dapper-updates repository. should be on the mirrors by now.
[08:40] <moebius_> are there any plans to packages amarok 1.4.2beta?
[08:40] <fdoving> dein: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:40] <moebius_> er, package
[08:40] <dein> what am i looking for in that list?
[08:40] <mlehrer> so has anyone else seen this symptom: if I hold the shift key down for about 10 seconds, it causes the keyboard to stop working correctly
[08:40] <xevil> fdoving: thanks... think I'll wait til later to install
[08:41] <mlehrer> it starts pausing for a couple of seconds before the keystrokes come across
[08:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !foxfire
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foxfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !firefox
[08:41] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> :p
[08:41] <fdoving> moebius_: will be done once someone get some time to prioritize it, i guess. (might be pending too, i don't know).
[08:41] <mlehrer> could i convince a kde user to try that really quick
[08:42] <mlehrer> to see if it's just me
[08:42] <moebius_> fdoving - do you think it's like they would package a beta or would they wait for 1.4.2 final
[08:42] <moebius_> I just am looking forward to the DAAP support
[08:42] <moebius_> (itunes music sharing protocol)
[08:42] <fdoving> moebius_: beta will be packages if someone have the time to do it, but it will not be a high priority task for kubuntu.
[08:43] <Dannilion> mlehrer, I think you're turning on the accessibility support. I've forgotten how to turn it off, though
[08:43] <mlehrer> ctrl+alt+backspace is the only way i have found so far :)
[08:43] <villmow> ok, I did an upgrade and now my X is messed up
[08:43] <Dannilion> :)
[08:43] <villmow> how do I reconfigure?
[08:43] <moebius_> fdoving - alright, thanks
[08:44] <Ash-Fox> villmow, please type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:45] <fdoving> mlehrer: check out system settings -> regional & accessibility -> accessibility
[08:45] <dein> ; ;
[08:46] <hapo> I just did a dist-upgrade to the newest dapper packages (and enabled the KDE 3.5.4 repo before that)
[08:46] <hapo> but now my fonts look a little weird
[08:46] <mlehrer> fdoving: it is disabled in accessibility
[08:46] <fdoving> mlehrer: disable the key, stuff at the top.
[08:46] <hapo> with shard edges etc.
[08:46] <mlehrer> but it is definitely not disabled
[08:46] <hapo> nothing to do with antialiasing
[08:46] <fdoving> mlehrer: oh.. strange.
[08:46] <mlehrer> if i just knew which key to use to turn it off, i wouldn't care
[08:46] <fdoving> dein: status?
[08:46] <hapo> but they're otherwise strange
[08:46] <hapo> can anyone help me with this?
[08:46] <dein> still nothing
[08:46] <hapo> maybe wrong dpi?
[08:46] <dein> the repositories are enabled, but nothing updateable
[08:47] <fdoving> mlehrer: if it's KDE it should timeout after some time without activity. but since it's disabled in system-settings..
[08:47] <fdoving> dein: try to swap mirror to "uk.archives.ubuntu.com" for the line with dapper-updates.
[08:47] <dein> ok
[08:47] <mlehrer> it claims to turn off if you hold it down for another 8 seconds, but it doesn't
[08:47] <dein> http//uk.... right?
[08:48] <exotic> is there any plugin for amaroK to play rm files?
[08:49] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !update
[08:49] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:49] <mlehrer> all the gui does is force it to be on at all times
[08:49] <mlehrer> it appears that after 8 seconds it comes on no matter what
[08:50] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> update is apt-get install update right??
[08:50] <mlehrer> argh
[08:52] <xevil> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: sudo apt-get update
[08:53] <dein> ok its fixed
[08:53] <jujimufu> hey guys
[08:53] <dein> the au repositories weren't updated yet i guess
[08:53] <dein> thanks for your help
[08:53] <jujimufu> can someone finally help me re-enable dri on my PC?
[08:53] <fdoving> dein: you're welcome :)
[08:54] <jujimufu> my Pc is set to have it enabled, as yesterday I fixed it with fritsch, but after I rebooted (which is, this morning), it was disabled. What do I have to do to enable it again?
[08:54] <jujimufu> um...
[08:54] <jujimufu> no worries
[08:54] <jujimufu> it fixed itself :)
[08:54] <dein> now to repair all the quirks that have appeared in my x
[08:54] <jujimufu> that's why I love linux lol :D
[08:57] <jaramillo> what is the link of that howto about fixing the shift + backspace-killing-Xgl stuff ? I can't remember :-\
[08:59] <jujimufu> brb
[08:59] <Azzco> Hi I have a question...I tried out entrance (login screen) and now kde wont start...trying to reinstall kdm to see if that help but it's allready installed =/ any idea on how to change back?
[09:00] <twit> hi
[09:00] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> thanks xevil :)
[09:00] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> bbl
[09:00] <yatt> anyone know of a system-wide word expander like instanttext for linux?
[09:01] <twit> i have a little problem with my sound
[09:02] <yatt> what sort of problem?
[09:02] <trappist> yatt: word expander?
[09:03] <yatt> trappist: as i type it shows me a list of words that have those letters. like if i type cmp it might suggest computer or complete
[09:04] <twit> i can't hear anything
[09:04] <twit> there is no sound
[09:04] <jujimufu> twit: at least you can read :)
[09:05] <jujimufu> twit: that was since the beginning, or you did something and since then sound stopped working?
[09:05] <twit> i have no sound since i have install the OS
[09:06] <jujimufu> twit: ok. check it you have alsa installed. Just do sudo apt-get install alsa and if it's installed, it will say so. If not, it will download alsa, which is required for sound.
[09:06] <jujimufu> twit: what's your sound card btw?
[09:06] <twit> onboard sound
[09:07] <yatt> like this: http://www.fitaly.com/new/version5.htm
[09:07] <twit> how can i check this ? ^^
[09:08] <yatt> twit: try running lspci and look for audio or sound or something like that
[09:09] <ootput> hello
[09:09] <twit> ah by the way when i will start a song amaroK say: "http://getfirefox.com/releases/
[09:09] <twit> mom
[09:09] <twit> http://getfirefox.com/releases/
[09:09] <twit> hmm
[09:09] <jaramillo> how can i get the super key working under xgl/kde o_0
[09:10] <twit> oh aa
[09:10] <trappist> jaramillo: in your xorg.conf, in the InputDevice section for your keyboard, say
[09:10] <trappist>     Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win"
[09:10] <dima_> Hi,everyone.
[09:11] <jaramillo> thx :-)
[09:11] <dima_> Does anyone know how can I downgrade a package (uninstall and install an older one, without touching the dependencies)
[09:12] <jaramillo> brb
[09:12] <jaramillo> <3
[09:14] <ootput> hi guys, I've installed (aptitude install nvidia-glx), and input the command that essentially switched 'nv' in xorg.conf to 'nvidia', but now the system complains (at boot, or via startx) that no screens could be found
[09:14] <ootput> has anyone else experienced this before?
[09:14] <fdoving> dima_: apt-get install package=version ? or force installation of a package that is a lower version than the one other packages depend on?
[09:15] <fdoving> ootput: try to run apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade, there was a problem with the latest security update from yesterday.
[09:15] <Talwin> hey guys
[09:16] <Talwin> some nice questions for you.
[09:16] <ootput> fdoving: yeah, this is on a fresh install (performed an hour ago).. been trying to figure out the problem for the past hour :)
[09:16] <noowner> initrd.img-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic , does any1 know how to mount that ? or change vga16fb to nvidiafb ?! :>
[09:17] <Talwin> I tried setting up my bluetooth and it crashed.
[09:17] <Talwin> tried a reboot and now it wont let me into the gui
[09:17] <ootput> noowner: perhaps append the fb setting to your kernel boot line (in your bootloader's config)?
[09:17] <oslo> hi, iwlist wlan0 scan find nothing...
[09:17] <twit> erm how can i install programms like the flash player 7 ?
[09:18] <Talwin> use adept twit
[09:18] <twit> ahh thanks
[09:19] <noowner> ootput: not sure what setting is that but looking for framebuffer.txt
[09:19] <Talwin> ok, now any real experts able to help?
[09:19] <Talwin> i can get into recovery mode
[09:19] <ootput> noowner: which bootloader are you using?
[09:19] <Talwin> but i dont really know what i can do in it?
[09:19] <Talwin> im still pretty much a n00n
[09:19] <Talwin> n00b*
[09:20] <Dannilion> found update problem- I'd changed issue.net :P
[09:20] <ootput> noowner: in menu.lst, or whichever config you use, find the kernel ..  line, and append: video=nvidiafb:1400x1050MR@75
[09:20] <ootput> noowner: or something similar
[09:21] <Electrolyte> Does anyone know how I can download Wine?
[09:21] <noowner> ootput: grub
[09:21] <Electrolyte> I can't find it in Adept.
[09:21] <ootput> noowner: beyond that, I can't give you advice on your particular setup.. i can't really taylor it to your system.
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> Electrolyte: get it from wine.budgetdedicated.com
[09:21] <noowner> ootput: my lcd is tops 1024x768 :)
[09:21] <Talwin> set up multiverse/universe Electrolyte?
[09:21] <Electrolyte> Hmm ok.
[09:21] <Talwin> ah or that
[09:22] <noowner> ootput: ok, thanks ;)
[09:22] <ootput> urgh, tailor
[09:22] <ootput> noowner: np
[09:22] <Talwin> anyone know how to get from recovery console -> gui?
[09:22] <Talwin> it wont boot into it
[09:22] <ootput> ^D?
[09:22] <yatt> Talwin: have you tried startx?
[09:22] <Commander-Crowe> is there a .deb file that'll install kubuntu-desktop on the cd?
[09:22] <trappist> Talwin: 'exit'
[09:23] <noowner> does any1 wanna test smth on an amd64 laptop ? for kubuntu 6.06 lemme know :P
[09:23] <Talwin> so once at my root prompt
[09:23] <Commander-Crowe> cuz I have the cd but no internet on that computer
[09:23] <Talwin> type exit? or startx?
[09:23] <trappist> Talwin: exit.
[09:23] <yatt> Commander-Crowe: try downloading a kubuntu cd?
[09:23] <sleeptyper> any1 is at downtown, running errands
[09:24] <noowner> ootput: guess i've to rerun grub-install hd0 ?
[09:24] <Commander-Crowe> yatt: I did that but I don't want to remove ubuntu
[09:24] <ootput> noowner: no?
[09:24] <Talwin> ok..
[09:24] <ootput> noowner: you only need to make that simple modification to the file
[09:24] <Talwin> ill try that. bbiab!
[09:24] <fede> chat italiana ? (grazie, scusate)
[09:25] <noowner> ootput: oh, ayt, at least now I know not to rerun that each time i modif menu.lst
[09:25] <trappist> fede: #ubuntu-it, #kubuntu-it
[09:25] <ootput> noowner: yeah :) grub isn't as bothersome as lilo
[09:25] <fede> (grazie)
[09:26] <noowner> ootput: yeah, thanks again, laterz; reeboothin
[09:27] <trappist> fede: prego
[09:27] <DaSkreech> !it
[09:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:27] <trappist> tuxar: please don't do that
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !away
[09:28] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Though I don't get the no nick change.
[09:28] <lightbulb41> hi.  i tried booting from the kubuntu live-cd, but got an error "buffer i/o overflow devicedm-0", or something like that.  any idea?
[09:29] <trappist> DaSkreech: it's just unnecessary traffic.  irc has a perfectly serviceable away system that doesn't generate channel scroll.
[09:29] <Electrolyte> [20:21:50]  <Talwin> set up multiverse/universe Electrolyte? <-- Yes, but I still can't see it.
[09:30] <DaSkreech> but we have at least 50-90 people logging in daily and changing thier nick
[09:30] <trappist> yeah it's obnoxious
[09:30] <DaSkreech> trappist: No It's necessary in some cases
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> just ignore nickchanges
[09:31] <trappist> DaSkreech: sure, I'm talking about changing it to like foobar_away when you leave
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> (same way as ignoreing PARTS QUITS JOINS)
[09:31] <trappist> h3sp4wn: it's annoying for other reasons, as well.  like when you're looking for who said what an hour ago, trying to use tab completion, etc.
[09:32] <Electrolyte> Oh great, they don't have AMD64 Wine packages.
[09:32] <trappist> if you're trying to manufacture an away system, just use irc's builtin /away (without public messages)
[09:32] <Electrolyte> That's why it's not working.
[09:32] <Electrolyte> :/
[09:32] <trappist> Electrolyte: they never will have.  wine runs win32 (note the 32) binaries.  you can run wine in a 32bit chroot though.
[09:32] <DaSkreech> trappist: Well we have ubuntu ubuntu_ ubuntu__ and ubuntu_____ logging in and changing nicks all the time which is necessary and good thing
[09:32] <Electrolyte> No, I'll just do something else.
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> Can wine 64 not run 64 bit windows ?
[09:33] <trappist> DaSkreech: there are definitely times when changing your nick is good or even necessary.  getting up to go to the bathroom isn't one of them.
[09:33] <DaSkreech> Electrolyte: Grab some linux games :-)
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> (i.e using xp64 dlls)
[09:33] <yatt> quit
[09:33] <Electrolyte> I'll BBL.
[09:34] <trappist> Electrolyte: I run wine in a chroot on an amd64 system quite happily
[09:34] <DaSkreech> trappist: I'd say put a reasonable time limit on nick change. Not sure if it's so distracting as to warrant a rule. I do find announcements to the channel aggravating though since they can't be ignored or filtered out
[09:35] <trappist> DaSkreech: there's just no good reason to do it, and there are reasons not to do it.  the main one is that 98% of the people who see it have no reason to care.
[09:35] <Electrolyte> [20:34:08]  <trappist> Electrolyte: I run wine in a chroot on an amd64 system quite happily <-- I don't have a clue what chroot is - anyway, bbl.
[09:36] <trappist> Electrolyte: it's a 32bit environment on your 64bit system that you 'jail' yourself into, in this case to run 32bit apps.
[09:37] <DaSkreech> That goes for nearly all nick changes
[09:38] <trappist> DaSkreech: the important bit there is the "there's just no good reason to do it" part
[09:38] <ootput> does automatix function at the commandline?
[09:38] <looktj> dont use automatix
[09:39] <looktj> itll break your system
[09:39] <ootput> looktj: any insights as to why?
[09:39] <fdoving> !automatix
[09:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:40] <D4rkly> how do i setup my webcam for kopete ?
[09:40] <ootput> is nvidiaguide horrendously slow for anyone else?
[09:40] <ootput> feels as though i'm on dialup
[09:40] <ootput> er, ubuntuguide
[09:44] <Talwin> ok guys it didnt work
[09:44] <Talwin> i tried exit
[09:44] <Talwin> and it allowed me to "login"
[09:44] <Talwin> but i want to get back into the GUI
[09:44] <blewis> had an odd problem have latest kubuntu cd was running ok but then would load gui
[09:45] <blewis> just caught end of that talwin but do you have same prob?
[09:45] <Talwin> well i was in ok.
[09:45] <Talwin> but i tried to instal bluetooth
[09:45] <Talwin> install*
[09:45] <blewis> i mean wouldn't load gui
[09:45] <Talwin> yeah
[09:45] <Talwin> now it wont load GUI
[09:45] <Talwin> it crashed when i was in System settings
[09:45] <Talwin> and now wont let me back in
[09:45] <Talwin> it lets me in recovery mode
[09:46] <Talwin> but i cant get into the gui
[09:46] <blewis> ah. what fixed mine was booting to shell, doing apt-get upgrade. it downloaded an xserver update which must have rewritten whatever had got corrupted
[09:46] <blewis> can't really think what might have caused it in my case
[09:46] <Talwin> yeah me neither
[09:46] <Talwin> i wasnt in terminal or anything
[09:46] <Talwin> it was just a crash
[09:46] <blewis> give the upgrade a go anyway, worth a try
[09:46] <Talwin> and i tried a reboot
[09:46] <Talwin> *shrugs*
[09:47] <Talwin> sudo spt-get upgrade
[09:47] <Talwin> sudo apt-get install?
[09:47] <Talwin> or probably wont need the install command right?
[09:47] <Talwin> ..shit..
[09:47] <Talwin> i just realised.
[09:47] <Talwin> i DID let adept upgrade.
[09:47] <Talwin> think that was it?
[09:48] <Talwin> and it was xserver
[09:48] <blewis> could be. might be the same update that fixed my prob.  try upgrade again from the shell and see what happens
[09:48] <blewis> don't need sudo
[09:48] <blewis> just apt-get upgrade
[09:48] <Talwin> ok.
[09:49] <Talwin> ill try that. bbs!
[09:52] <D4rkly> easycam2 wont load
[09:52] <looktj> talwin: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[09:56] <Electrolyte> [20:36:26]  <trappist> Electrolyte: it's a 32bit environment on your 64bit system that you 'jail' yourself into, in this case to run 32bit apps. <-- How do I get it to work?
[09:56] <ootput> argh! a problem so early on in the game. xorg is complaining about 'no devices found', when clearly there is (otherwise I wouldn't be able to see that error message ^^;)
[09:56] <DeBert> What's the best option for embedded video in Konqueror, Kplayer, Kmplayer or something else?
[09:57] <DaSkreech> ootput: What version of Xserver-xorg-core are you running?
[09:58] <ootput> DaSkreech: i'm not sure, this is a very fresh (1 hour ago) installation
[09:58] <ootput> DaSkreech: i had to boot into another system
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Did you do an update?
[09:58] <ootput> yes, aptitude update
[09:59] <ootput> apt-get even
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Ah
[09:59] <jhutchins> What's a good fast link for the current iso?
[09:59] <ootput> DaSkreech: oh no, this is from the installation cd, if that's what you mean
[09:59] <DeBert> What's the best option for embedded video in Konqueror, Kplayer, Kmplayer or something else?
[10:00] <Kyral_Laptop> DeBert: your preferred player
[10:00] <Kyral_Laptop> I think I have Codeine set as mine...
[10:00] <jhutchins> DeBert: I find mplayer works best for me, km lacks controlls.
[10:00] <DeBert> Kyral_Laptop: It's not that easy, Konqueror is known to crash with embedded streams.
[10:00] <DaSkreech> ootput: Do you have any errors?
[10:01] <Kyral_Laptop> DeBert: I disable those :P
[10:01] <Talwin> well
[10:01] <Talwin> it didnt work :/
[10:01] <Talwin> blewis i think it was i was chatting to
[10:01] <Talwin> if anyone knows error codes this is what i got
[10:01] <DeBert> jhutchins: you mean kplayer, or plain mplayer?
[10:01] <ootput> DaSkreech: the last bit of /var/log/Xorg log @ http://pastebin.com/773448
[10:02] <ootput> essentially: (EE) No devices detected. \n Fatal server error: \n on screens found
[10:02] <ootput> *no screens found
[10:02] <Gun_Smoke> I've joined the K crew today..
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Ash-Fox: That's you
[10:02] <Gun_Smoke> humm  Seems a bit faster than gnome.
[10:03] <Talwin> ok here it goes:
[10:03] <Talwin> No screens found
[10:03] <Talwin> fatal server error
[10:03] <Talwin> XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on x server
[10:03] <Talwin> ";O.O" after 0 requests (o known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[10:03] <Talwin> thats what i get when i succesfully boot into recovery mode then try
[10:03] <Talwin> startx
[10:04] <abattoir> Talwin: read the last part of the topic
[10:04] <Talwin> which one?
[10:04] <Talwin> AH this topic
[10:04] <Talwin> :P
[10:04] <Talwin> sorry
[10:04] <looktj> talwin: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:05] <Talwin> i tried updating though
[10:05] <ootput> looktj: is this an issue with an installation from the cd?
[10:05] <Talwin> OH
[10:05] <Talwin> i just tried
[10:05] <Talwin> apt-get update.
[10:05] <Talwin> that not good enough?
[10:05] <Hawkwind> Talwin: Follow what looktj just told you
[10:06] <abattoir> Talwin: that command, fetches a list of latest available packages...
[10:06] <Hawkwind> Talwin: Unless you can verify the new version is on your mirrors
[10:06] <ootput> ah, i may have to try with a non-local repo
[10:06] <Hawkwind> Talwin: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core
[10:06] <abattoir> Talwin: in order to fetch them, you'd need to do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade' or 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' depending on the scenario.
[10:06] <Hawkwind> That will tell you which version is on your mirrors.  If it is, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:07] <Talwin> ok
[10:07] <Talwin> ill try looktj's
[10:07] <jhutchins> DeBert: I mean mplayer.
[10:08] <jhutchins> Using it directly works better for me than using the kmplayer shell.
[10:11] <ganymed> hello
[10:13] <pierreth> how can i play acc files with amaroK?
[10:14] <ootput> anyone mind looking at a Xorg error log for a fresh installation of 6.06 from cd? http://pastebin.ca/145044
[10:15] <ootput> there's nothing there that indicates a faulty xorg.conf
[10:15] <ootput> i can attach the xorg.conf if need be
[10:15] <DaSkreech> ootput: run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core and give us the output
[10:15] <ootput> it's for a dual-monitor setup (no xinerama, twinview) + nvidia
[10:15] <Ash-Fox> Type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:16] <Talwin> yarr!
[10:16] <Talwin> it worked.
[10:16] <Talwin> thanks guys.
[10:16] <Talwin> seems like a lot of people are having this problem, whats up?
[10:16] <looktj> no problem
[10:16] <ootput> Ash-Fox: does the error log indicate that?
[10:16] <ootput> DaSkreech: sorry, i can't, i had to mount the partition, and upload the file
[10:17] <ootput> DaSkreech: i haven't been able to chroot in yet
[10:17] <mindspin> my xserver doesnt start up anymore, out of a sudden. it gives me a fatal server error and syas "no screens found"
[10:17] <Hawkwind> Talwin: It was an update that broke things last night.  It was quickly reported hence the fix that has been uploaded today
[10:17] <ootput> mindspin: ah
[10:17] <ootput> mindspin: likewise
[10:17] <Hawkwind> mindspin: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date
[10:17] <mindspin> i see, I'm not the only one...
[10:17] <Talwin> ah gotcha.
[10:17] <mindspin> thanks
[10:18] <Talwin> i cant PM back looktj i need to register?
[10:18] <Hawkwind> mindspin: You need to verify your mirror has the new version, sudo apt-get update && apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core
[10:18] <Talwin> Ah it means nick.
[10:18] <ootput> Talwin: wouldn't kill you to register :)
[10:18] <Hawkwind> mindspin: You'll want to make sure your mirror has the 10.4 version
[10:19] <mindspin> cool
[10:19] <D4rkly> this is an error from easycam2
[10:19] <D4rkly> Failed to open device
[10:19] <D4rkly> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:19] <D4rkly>   File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?
[10:19] <D4rkly>     import gnome.ui
[10:19] <D4rkly> ImportError: No module named gnome.ui
[10:19] <ootput> back in a boot
[10:19] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:19] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:19] <D4rkly> anyone knnow is there is a kde.ui ?
[10:20] <mindspin> i played around and around with xorg.conf and did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <mindspin> works
[10:20] <mindspin> thanks a lot
[10:20] <Hawkwind> No problem
[10:21] <D4rkly> what can i replace the import gnome.ui with so this will work with kubuntu ??
[10:21] <DaSkreech> Just checking does everyone have a ~/.Xsession?
[10:22] <steveire> Does all that 3d cube stuff work well in kubuntu
[10:22] <steveire> ?
[10:22] <Hawkwind> steveire: XGL you mean ?
[10:22] <Hawkwind> steveire: Might talk to the guys in #Ubuntu-XGL
[10:22] <AtKaaZ> DaSkreech: only .xsession-errors here
[10:22] <looktj> !xgl
[10:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:22] <steveire> yeah, but there's far too many programs and accronyms to keep track of. AIGLX XGL, Compiz etc.
[10:23] <steveire> chairs
[10:23] <DaSkreech> AtKaaZ: Ok thanks
[10:23] <DaSkreech> steveire: Try going into your /usr/bin sometime
[10:23] <steveire> eh?
[10:23] <D4rkly> anyone know the name of the kubuntu .ui The ubuntu one is gnome.ui ???
[10:24] <Gun_Smoke> kde use less resources than gnome?
[10:24] <steveire> DaSkreech: I don't know what you're trying to say.
[10:25] <looktj> Kde is has better graphics though
[10:25] <looktj> in my opinion
[10:25] <DaSkreech> Lots of programs to remember
[10:25] <D4rkly> i have a prog that calls import gnome.ui but gnome.ui is not found as i running kubuntu. what can i replace this with so it works on kubuntu ??
[10:26] <Gun_Smoke> kde does look a bit prettier How about resources?  Less/more? than gnome?
[10:26] <looktj> less
[10:26] <looktj> i have gnome and kde
[10:26] <Gun_Smoke> Seemed a bit faster
[10:26] <Gun_Smoke> snaper
[10:26] <looktj> i made kde default session
[10:26] <Gun_Smoke> I may
[10:26] <fdoving> D4rkly: go to apt:/ in konqueror. search for gnome.ui and install the package that provides it
[10:27] <Gun_Smoke> I grabbed it once before like 2-3 months ago, installed looked at it and never used it.
[10:27] <looktj> someone gotta put http://ubuntuguide.org in the topic for people that are new
[10:28] <D4rkly> there is no gnome.ui in adept
[10:28] <steveire> D4rkly: Is gnome.ui a config script or something?
[10:28] <Gun_Smoke> Whats up with this channel and people coming and going?  So much in/out traffic.. geeze
[10:28] <steveire> what are you tryng to do?
[10:29] <Gun_Smoke> And one using compiz on kde?  run better than on gnome?
[10:30] <D4rkly> its a module thats imported in a python script for installing a webcam on Ubuntu. But i need to know the Kubuntu equivalent
[10:30] <steveire> I think I'm gonna try and get compiz going tonight. Never done it before though.
[10:30] <yalu> folks, I need some help... I have somehow messed up the configuration of my X server, and I am currently trying to use just the normal open source drivers for this radeon 9600 (I do not need acceleration)
[10:30] <Gun_Smoke> steveire:  I got it on going on gnome.. There is a mem leak somewhere that ties everything up in a few hours.. :(
[10:31] <yalu> at the end of Xorg.log it says "(EE) No devices detected."
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> yalu: you should get acceleration with the opensource drivers for a 9600
[10:31] <yalu> h3sp4wn: that is good news but they refuse to work, I just use a plain xorg.conf using the "radeon" drivers
[10:31] <steveire> Gun_Smoke: Ties everything up as in you come to a stand still?
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> yalu: That is the radeon driver
[10:32] <Gun_Smoke> steveire:  Just about.. end up log in/out
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> yalu: As long as fglrx is not installed you should get accelerated 3d
[10:32] <Ash-Fox> yalu, what version of xserver-xorg-core do you have installed?
[10:32] <Ash-Fox> (dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core)
[10:32] <Gun_Smoke> steveire:  I'm told the minimize plugin was/is causing it.
[10:33] <ootput> ah, fantastic!
[10:33] <ootput> i'm happily typing away in konversation in kubuntu :)
[10:33] <flattersr> just downloaded wine no probs ok. Just tried to download window media player 9 slight problem
[10:33] <looktj> IRC?
[10:33] <yalu> Ash-Fox: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[10:33] <yalu> and thanks for trying to help me
[10:33] <Ash-Fox> yalu, choose the following: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:33] <Gun_Smoke> Man I haven't been on this channel in forever.. The turn over rate is phenomenal.....!
[10:34] <flattersr> media player keeps saying it cannot find any update and cannot proceed
[10:34] <yalu> Ash-Fox: is that version known to be bad?
[10:34] <Ash-Fox> yalu, yep
[10:34] <Ash-Fox> yalu, causes the error you're getting.
[10:34] <rrbiz> hello, hmm amarok and kde are 3.5.2, and amarok doesn't read my wma's, but amarok in kde 3.5.4 did, do I uprade to kde 3.5.4 or is there a way around this ?
[10:35] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[10:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> rrbiz: install w32codecs
[10:35] <Electrolyte> I think I've found a bug in Kubuntu.
[10:35] <flattersr> thanks for that cheers i will check that out
[10:35] <rrbiz> already installed all the plugins, and mainly win32codecs, that's not the problem
[10:35] <yalu> Ash-Fox: downing :) I'll tell you how it goes
[10:35] <ootput> are there any tools available that'll allow me to kickstart the configuration process of a vanilla system?
[10:36] <Electrolyte> What ever sound engine I use, when a system event is played the volume can change randomly and wave files have a pop at the end of their file.
[10:36] <rrbiz> kaffeine can do it all, but I want amarok to do my wma's
[10:36] <Electrolyte> Any ideas what it could be>?
[10:36] <ootput> alsa-config tools specially created fro kubuntu users?
[10:36] <yalu> Ash-Fox: VICTORY! thank you! free slap on the back! ;-)
[10:36] <Ash-Fox> rrbiz, use the xine engine in amarok
[10:36] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox: xine is being used
[10:37] <rrbiz> I'm thinking amarok needs upgrading, as it worked flawless with kde 3.5.4
[10:37] <Ash-Fox> rrbiz, if it works in kaffeine, under the xine engine, then it'll work in amarok under the xine engine.
[10:37] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox: yeah I would think so too, I've run into this problem before
[10:38] <Electrolyte> Is there a channel for the KDE team?
[10:38] <Electrolyte> I need to report this KDE sound system bug.
[10:38] <Ash-Fox> rrbiz, I haven't, both run perfectly here.
[10:38] <Electrolyte> And get a possible fix :/
[10:38] <ootput> whats the name of the web browser that's supposedly better than konqueror?
[10:38] <Ash-Fox> Electrolyte, checked kde.org's bugzilla?
[10:38] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox: what version of amarok u got?
[10:38] <ootput> it started with a 'k' too, iirc
[10:39] <steveire> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#graphics-cards <<< glxinfo | grep rendering gives a positive here, but I thought most people install ATI dirvers themselves. Would I get any benefit form that?
[10:39] <Ash-Fox> Qt: 3.3.6 KDE: 3.5.2 amaroK: 1.3.9
[10:39] <steveire> kasekahase
[10:39] <Electrolyte> No not yet Ash-Fox
[10:40] <steveire> I don't know if it's better than ffox, but it's very good.
[10:40] <steveire> there might be a z in there somewhere.
[10:40] <jorik> anyone knows of a kde wysiwyg html editor ?
[10:40] <Ash-Fox> steveire, my graphic card is ati radeon, but it has hardware acceleration wit hthe default drivers.
[10:40] <Ash-Fox> steveire, if you already got hardware acceleration, no need to install ATi's.
[10:41] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox: do you have wma's in your playlist?
[10:41] <steveire> Ash-Fox: It seems mine does too, I'm planning to install xgl, so I wonder if getting ati's would be any benefit to me.
[10:41] <ootput> am i supposed to install something else to get amarok or kaffeine to play media files?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> steveire: If you don't use fglrx you could use aiglx (with the free drivers)
[10:42] <pierreth> how can i use this page to install amarok: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php?
[10:42] <steveire> you see, the problem is, they are all just a jumble of letters to me. Why would I want to use fglrx or not?
[10:43] <fritsch> re
[10:43] <Ash-Fox> jorik, there is a application called 'adept' that comes with your system, use that to find software you want.
[10:43] <Ash-Fox> rrbiz, yes.
[10:43] <fritsch> abattoir: working was okay? after six hours of sleep?
[10:43] <Ash-Fox> steveire, xgl is alpha quality software. I'd reccommend against it if this is a production system.
[10:43] <fritsch> abattoir: the bug from yesterday got sth.  bigger
[10:44] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: is the Synaptic software may work too
[10:44] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, synaptic doesn't come with kubuntu.
[10:44] <D4rkly> can you launch Xgl from KDE so KDE stays the default UI ??
[10:44] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: is it important?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> What's kpersonalizer?
[10:44] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, I'm talking about things that are already installed with the system.
[10:44] <fritsch> !kpersonalizer
[10:44] <ubotu> kpersonalizer: installation personalizer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 474 kB, installed size 772 kB
[10:44] <steveire> It's not a production system Ash-Fox. Does that mean you recommend aiglx or fglrx? Is that an exclusive choice?
[10:45] <fritsch> :-)
[10:45] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: because i added the stuff there, i will try with the other
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> aiglx avoids you having to use xgl
[10:45] <jorik> Ash-Fox: i know that, but typing "wysiwyg" doesn't return any results and untill i know the name of the program i need, adept is of little use
[10:45] <Ash-Fox> steveire, if you got hardware acceleration, chances are it probably won't work with the proprietory drive (in my expirence). Best leaving it alone
[10:45] <DaSkreech> fritsch: So then that shouldn't cause X to fail then?
[10:46] <steveire> so is it a better choice to use aiglx?
[10:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: no really not
[10:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: when failed you X?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Blast!!
[10:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: affected by the xserver-xorg-core problem?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> fritsch: Sunday night till now
[10:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: fixed now?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Before that debacle.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Nope
[10:46] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: i don't see the package
[10:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core
[10:46] <DaSkreech>  Still no errors but X doesn't work
[10:47] <fritsch> DaSkreech: what version does this show?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> fritsch: That's not the problem
[10:47] <DaSkreech> 10.4
[10:47] <fritsch> DaSkreech: hehe, okay then
[10:47] <fritsch> DaSkreech: you have some error logs already pastebinned?
[10:47] <fritsch> DaSkreech: url?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Yes
[10:47] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21402
[10:47] <D4rkly> wow 3ddesk is quite cool
[10:48] <DaSkreech> THanks
[10:48] <fritsch> DaSkreech: this is all?
[10:48] <D4rkly> run 3ddesk from konsole after install
[10:48] <DaSkreech> Si
[10:49] <fritsch> DaSkreech: radeon says sometimes funny things while starting up X ;-)
[10:49] <josh__> are yall having a display problem with this version of ubuntu?
[10:49] <fritsch> DaSkreech: you tried another xorg.conf?
[10:49] <Ash-Fox> pierreth, I don't believe you http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/wysiwyg
[10:49] <steveire> i thought 3ddesk was a gnome only app?
[10:49] <fritsch> DaSkreech: can you provide me your config?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> yes
[10:49] <DaSkreech> Sure
[10:49] <DaSkreech> fritsch: I highly highly doubt it though
[10:49] <trappist> DaSkreech: grep -i busid /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <josh__> is the xorg config screwed up with kubuntu also?
[10:50] <inteliwasp> um... how do i get the *fixed* x server?
[10:50] <kaz3> quick question, is there a default root password for kubuntu?
[10:50] <josh__> guess so
[10:50] <fritsch> inteliwasp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:50] <trappist> inteliwasp: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <D4rkly> how can i map running 3ddesk when i click the middle button on my mouse ??
[10:50] <josh__> kaz, you have to make one
[10:50] <fritsch> trappist: :-) faster
[10:50] <trappist> fritsch: you win.  this time.
[10:50] <fritsch> trappist: *g*
[10:50] <kaz3> when i put in 'su' it asks for password, but i don't remember setting one
[10:51] <josh__> trappist: thats all u have to do to get the fix? a distupgrade?
[10:51] <trappist> kaz3: you don't su.  you sudo, and use your own password.
[10:51] <Ash-Fox> jorik, I don't believe you http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/wysiwyg (sorry pierreth, got confused)
[10:51] <trappist> josh__: yes
[10:51] <josh__> well then that should be no problem then
[10:51] <fritsch> !sudo > kaz3
[10:51] <DaSkreech> trappist: Not the issue either :)
[10:51] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox, the exact problem is that amarok isn't creating a playlist of wma files when pointed at my wma files directory, wma files play fine otherwise
[10:51] <DaSkreech> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21428
[10:51] <fritsch> DaSkreech: you have pasted already?
[10:51] <trappist> DaSkreech: how do you know.
[10:51] <fritsch> DaSkreech: thx
[10:52] <pierreth> Ash-Fox: i was able to install using the command line
[10:52] <fritsch> DaSkreech: looks, very very standard though
[10:52] <fritsch> DaSkreech: did you experminet with xorg-xgl packages or something else?
[10:53] <trappist> whose idea was it to put all that tablet pc crap into the xorg.conf
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Si
[10:53] <DaSkreech> fritsch: Yup
[10:53] <DaSkreech> After it broke so that's not the problem
[10:53] <fritsch> DaSkreech: hehe, this could be the problem
[10:53] <fritsch> DaSkreech: ah okay
[10:53] <fritsch> DaSkreech: mmh, but the break can now be sth. other?
[10:53] <steveire> is 3ddesktop in the repos and will it work even if I haven't done all that xgl stuff?
[10:53] <Ash-Fox> rrbiz, I have them in my collection, so can't say I know why it isn't working for you
[10:53] <trappist> DaSkreech: grep -i servercmd /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:54] <DaSkreech> fritsch: sth other?
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> !info 3ddesktop
[10:54] <DaSkreech>  huh?
[10:54] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[10:54] <ootput> do any of you know how to specify a non-default audio card?
[10:54] <ootput> for amarok, i'd like to get sound out of my 2nd soundcard
[10:54] <fritsch> DaSkreech: yes, perhaps this error from "before" is fixed, but the xgl stuff broke something other
[10:54] <jorik> Ash-Fox: dewd, all those wysiwyg editors are for: tex, cd covers, guitar tabs, postscript, tex again, mathematical formulas and two modules for zope
[10:54] <fritsch> ootput: choose the correct device in the config ...
[10:54] <rrbiz> Ash-Fox: yeah it's odd, I had this same problem before with older version of amarok, but not the newer, who knows
[10:54] <fritsch> ootput: xine audio out and adjust your alsa devices here
[10:54] <ootput> fritsch: there isn't a drop-down menu
[10:54] <fritsch> ootput: there is
[10:54] <ootput> fritsch: what i'm after is the correct syntax
[10:55] <trappist> ootput: do you want to change your not-default soundcard to the default?
[10:55] <ootput> trappist: atm, it's listed as 'default'
[10:55] <DaSkreech> trappist: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br
[10:55] <inteliwasp> is anyone familiar with HDD errors?
[10:55] <fritsch> ootput: hehe, thought of this :-) have to look it up
[10:55] <DaSkreech> fritsch: There are no errors
[10:55] <ootput> trappist: in the past, i've seen hw:0.1, or something similar
[10:55] <DaSkreech> fritsch: What kind of breaking is that?
[10:55] <fritsch> DaSkreech: dmesg tells something of bad ram?
[10:55] <DaSkreech>  plus I've purged x* and reinstalled
[10:55] <DaSkreech> ?
[10:55] <DaSkreech> Eh?
[10:55] <fritsch> DaSkreech: hardware problem?
[10:56] <DaSkreech> Nope did an update on Sunday and it killed klauncher so I rebooted to find out it also killed X
[10:56] <DaSkreech> been trying to figure it out since then
[10:56] <Electrolyte> How can I update kdemultimedia via APT?
[10:56] <fritsch> ootput: just try instead of :0 :1 behind the thing (iirc)
[10:56] <ootput> hm, i wonder if amarok honors .asoundrc tags
[10:56] <pierreth> how can i play mp3 with amarok?
[10:57] <ootput> i'll need to fetch a working .asoundrc
[10:57] <trappist> Electrolyte: kdemultimedia is just a metapackage, and afaik there are no dapper updates for it (unless you update the whole kde to 3.5.4
[10:57] <DaSkreech> trappist, fritsch: Any other gleanings of Xknowledge?
[10:57] <trappist> )
[10:57] <Electrolyte> Damnit, I need to update it before sending a bug report.
[10:57] <Electrolyte> In case they fixed the sound issue I have.
[10:58] <Electrolyte> Which I think they have.
[10:58] <trappist> DaSkreech: it looks like it's starting and stopping with no errors.  what you're pasting is your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Does grep -i kpersonalizer ~/.xsession-errors return anythign for you guys?
[10:58] <Electrolyte> Is it possible to update to 3.5.4?
[10:58] <Hawkwind> Electrolyte: Yes
[10:58] <trappist> Electrolyte: yes
[10:58] <DaSkreech> trappist: Nope That's from startx You want my Xorg.0.log?
[10:58] <Hawkwind> Electrolyte: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main
[10:58] <steveire> I've installed the 3ddesktop package, and now I have two new programs: 3ddesk and 3ddeskd. Do I do 3ddeskd --wm=kde2 or --wm=kde3 or something entirely different. If there's something else I have to do, I haven't done it, please tell me.
[10:58] <Electrolyte> Ah, cheers.
[10:58] <fritsch> DaSkreech: yes of Xorg.0.log
[10:58] <trappist> Electrolyte: put this in your sources.list, update and dist-upgrade:
[10:58] <trappist> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[10:59] <Electrolyte> Thanks :)
[10:59] <ootput> pierreth: have you figured that out?
[11:00] <ootput> are any of you _not_ using the sound server?
[11:00] <ootput> i.e, pure alsa?
[11:01] <ootput> where dmix isn't a possibility
[11:01] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21429
[11:01] <Electrolyte> I think I'm using pure ALSA.
[11:01] <Electrolyte> Not 100% sure.
[11:01] <trappist> ootput: I'm pure alsa
[11:01] <Electrolyte> I've got ALSA set to hardware buffers, that's all I know.
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> I have setup my card using multiple rooms (there is an example on the alsa site - my card is m-audio delta 44)
[11:01] <ootput> trappist, Electrolyte: yeah, that's what i'm after
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> But I never got it working quite right
[11:02] <tuxar> Any guide for setting Compiz in KDE ?
[11:02] <Electrolyte> trappist knows the command then.
[11:02] <trappist> what command
[11:02] <trappist> tuxar: please turn off your auto-away stuff
[11:02] <ootput> trappist, Electrolyte: i have a working .asoundrc, i just need to make sure i've disabled all the interfering sound generators
[11:02] <tuxar> oh oh, don know how :(
[11:03] <Electrolyte> You've gone further than me ootput so I'd leave me out of this :P
[11:03] <DaSkreech> trappist, fritsch; enjoy :) I'm going to be reading up on Xsession config file ping me if you see anything damning
[11:03] <ootput> hehe, ok, sure
[11:03] <fritsch> DaSkreech: link?
[11:03] <fritsch> ah oka
[11:04] <Electrolyte> Found it ootput.
[11:04] <Electrolyte> ps aux | grep arts
[11:04] <mark___> hey i've got a bit of a noobish question
[11:04] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21429
[11:04] <Electrolyte> That should enable hardware buffers.
[11:04] <fritsch> DaSkreech: looks like "broken" x libraries or so ...
[11:05] <mark___> how can i add OO math to my K menu's office section?
[11:05] <fritsch> DaSkreech: mmmh, not "a clear" idea
[11:05] <Electrolyte> I had best restart, KDE 3.5.4 installed.
[11:05] <ootput> Electrolyte: actually, i just unchecked the majority of the checkboxes in System Settings
[11:05] <ootput> Electrolyte: works a treat
[11:05] <fritsch> DaSkreech: you treid reinstalling dri drivers, modules, etc.?
[11:05] <Electrolyte> lol
[11:05] <fritsch> DaSkreech: if yes - no idea
[11:05] <ootput> Electrolyte: a majority of sound checkboxes, rather :)
[11:06] <kaz3> i have a question, if you want to download a program how can you know if it's a package and if you can you apt-get to install it or not?
[11:06] <trappist> mark___: kmenuedit
[11:06] <mark___> yeah i had a look at the kmenuedit
[11:06] <trappist> kaz3: apt-cache search somekeyword
[11:07] <kaz3> thaks
[11:07] <tuxar> Any guide for setting Compiz in KDE ?
[11:07] <kaz3> thx
[11:07] <mark___> there's a good guide on compiz.net
[11:07] <jamadagni> hello
[11:07] <tuxar> thks mark
[11:07] <jamadagni> i am thinking of upgrading to kde 3.54
[11:07] <mark___> hi
[11:07] <trappist> tuxar: google for kubuntu compiz - there are dozens of them
[11:07] <trappist> jamadagni: 3.5.4 is nice
[11:07] <solemnwarning-lt> Hi all
[11:07] <tuxar> thks trappist
[11:07] <mark___> what the benefits of 3.5.4?
[11:08] <solemnwarning-lt> Does kubuntu have somthing that scales the CPU speed down?
[11:08] <jamadagni> and it says that it needs to remove kdelibs-bin
[11:08] <trappist> tuxar: disclaimer: none of them work
[11:08] <jamadagni> so i am not sure that's a good thing and i thought i'd ask here if its ok to remove that package
[11:08] <root_> ok, im not sure how this happened but i just did the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (had ubuntu desktop before), did the dist-upgrade, but i still have the ubuntu desktop
[11:08] <trappist> jamadagni: that's fine.  kdelibs-bin is a metapackage (not a real package) that's replaced in 3.5.4
[11:08] <root_> i just have all the kde applications.... how do i switch?
[11:08] <root_> should i have ran the xkd instead of the x?
[11:08] <solemnwarning-lt> My CPU clock has gone from 1.9GHz to 530MHz
[11:09] <root_> solemnwarning-lt: ouch... that sucks...
[11:09] <DaSkreech> root_: When you are logging in change your session to KDE
[11:09] <solemnwarning-lt> My text editor and IRC client have a framerate now -_-
[11:09] <trappist> root_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, choose kdm, and choose kde at the kdm login screen
[11:09] <mark___> damn
[11:09] <jamadagni> @trappist- thanks. i searched packages.ubuntu.com for 3.5.4 version of kdelibs-bin
[11:09] <mark___> how did that happen?
[11:09] <root_> ok
[11:09] <jamadagni> @trappist: bu tdidn't find any
[11:09] <rr72> how do i get my kernel headers?
[11:09] <rr72> i always forget what ones to apt-get
[11:09] <trappist> rr72: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:09] <mark___> there are appropriate meta packages in adept
[11:09] <rr72> ty
[11:09] <mark___> or do that
[11:09] <mark___> lol
[11:09] <trappist> rr72: that will always get the right one.  write it down :)
[11:10] <mark___> or copy to kate
[11:10] <solemnwarning-lt> Anyone?
[11:11] <DaSkreech> trappist, fritsch: Does grep -i kpersonalizer ~/.xsession-errors return anything for you guys?
[11:11] <jujimufu> !gset-compiz
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gset-compiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <jujimufu> !compiz
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:11] <jujimufu> !gset
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <fritsch> DaSkreech: startkde: kpersonalizer not found! Please install to properly configure your user.
[11:12] <jamadagni> @trappist: i don't think it's completely a metapackage with nought in it except dependencies
[11:12] <jamadagni> trappist: that's hwat a metapackage is, right?
[11:12] <fritsch> DaSkreech: kubuntu default settings does not need it
[11:12] <trappist> DaSkreech: yes
[11:12] <DaSkreech> fritsch: So that's not it either?
[11:12] <fritsch> DaSkreech: no
[11:12] <DaSkreech> trappist: Similar message?
[11:12] <[GuS] > mmm
[11:12] <fritsch> DaSkreech: this is a "user" log ... Xorg.0.log is "system" ;-)
[11:13] <trappist> jamadagni: I believe that's what it is - I don't have it so I can't test, but in either case it's perfectly normal
[11:13] <jamadagni> trappist: since it installs files like /usr/lib/kde/klauncher.so
[11:13] <trappist> DaSkreech: similar to what?  I haven't been paying attention
[11:13] <batman121> anyone know anything about riptide drivers
[11:13] <DaSkreech> fritsch: I think that it may be the soultion though
[11:13] <AtKaaZ> fritsch: which is the user log?
[11:13] <[GuS] > Guys... why in Kubuntu 64 the tray icon for xchat-systray  has no trasnparent bg (the image has transparent bg) and in Kubuntu 32 works fine? :S
[11:13] <DaSkreech> trappist: To fritsch's response
[11:13] <fritsch> AtKaaZ: .xsession-errors
[11:13] <misieq> how do i set my ip to fixed?
[11:13] <trappist> DaSkreech: no, completely different
[11:13] <fritsch> AtKaaZ: when this logging starts ... X is already up and user is logged in
[11:14] <AtKaaZ> fritsch: ayt :)
[11:14] <fritsch> AtKaaZ: okay?
[11:14] <AtKaaZ> DaSkreech: solution to what?
[11:14] <DaSkreech> trappist: What's your kpersonalizer line say?
[11:14] <AtKaaZ> fritsch: yep, ok here :D i just wanted to know which one was the user log :P
[11:14] <Electrolyte> Well, I still have this sound problem.
[11:14] <DaSkreech> AtKaaZ: to X being an idiot
[11:14] <trappist> DaSkreech: I've got dozens of them.  looks like normal log output.
[11:14] <Electrolyte> And quite frankly, it's doing my total head in.
[11:15] <ootput> trappist: sorry if you didn't notice the pm. If the soundserver is disabled, amarok's xine engine fails to find alsa output. Why is this the case if we're trying to get xine to interface directly with the hardware devices?
[11:15] <AtKaaZ> DaSkreech: what u got some 'no file' errors in .xsession-errors ? klaptopd related :)
[11:15] <trappist> ootput: the machine I'm on atm doesn't even have speakers, so I'm not using amarok - my amarok box is at home and I can't recall how I went about setting it up
[11:15] <trappist> ootput: there's a pretty good chance I'm not using the xine engine though
[11:16] <DaSkreech> trappist, fritsch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21430
[11:16] <Electrolyte> Is there anyway to bypass the KDE sound system for playing system audio events?
[11:16] <Electrolyte> Say, use Xine instead.
[11:16] <trappist> Electrolyte: I just killall artsd
[11:16] <Electrolyte> Er, I'll try that then.
[11:17] <crimsun> or just plain disable it in the control menu
[11:17] <trappist> DaSkreech: yeah mine looks nothing like that
[11:17] <jamadagni> hello can anyone help with with this kdelibs-bin thing?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-)
[11:17] <AtKaaZ> misieq: man interfaces
[11:17] <trappist> Electrolyte: listen to crimsun.  he knows of what he speaks.  I mostly don't :)
[11:17] <ootput> crimsun: disable which?
[11:18] <Electrolyte> Well I need sound events but the KDE sound system is giving me trouble.
[11:18] <jamadagni> @DaSkreech: thanks - so did you upgrade to 3.5.4?
[11:18] <jujimufu> fritsch: hey :)
[11:18] <DaSkreech> !klauncher
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klauncher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <jujimufu> Agios: apo ellada?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> !info klauncher
[11:18] <jujimufu> !klaunch
[11:18] <ubotu> Package klauncher does not exist in dapper
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klaunch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <jujimufu> meh
[11:19] <Electrolyte> I want to know if I can use a different sound engine than KDE sound system for playing system events.
[11:19] <pierreth> DaSkreech: it now works
[11:19] <DaSkreech> interesting
[11:19] <AtKaaZ> misieq: or u could look at less /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[11:19] <DaSkreech> pierreth: What now does?
[11:19] <pierreth> the mp3 and acc in amarok
[11:19] <ootput> crimsun: unchecked sound server in system settings (with no noticeable problems), but upon loading amarok, the xine engine complains about missing audio outputs. Re-checking the soundserver box results in an infinitely long process of waiting for the "starting sound system' message to go away
[11:20] <DaSkreech> pierreth: Ah Nice
[11:20] <pierreth> DaSkreech: the installer was a bit buggy
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Sorry about that
[11:21] <ootput> pierreth: which installer?
[11:21] <pierreth> ootput: i cannot talk to you
[11:21] <crimsun> ootput: artsd, or the sound daemon
[11:21] <crimsun> ootput: did you restart KDE?
[11:21] <pierreth> ootput: no, wait a second
[11:22] <ootput> crimsun: not yet
[11:22] <ootput> still waiting for that 'starting...' message to go away
[11:22] <Electrolyte> No one knows how I can bypass the KDE sound system then for system audio events?
[11:22] <pierreth> ooput: you have to install the version 1.4.1
[11:22] <jamadagni> guys.... pllease...
[11:22] <jamadagni> can *anyone* help with upgrading to kde 3.5.4
[11:23] <trappist> jamadagni: what's your question
[11:23] <DaSkreech> jamadagni: Look at the topic
[11:23] <pierreth> ootput: then when you try to play an mp3, it is going to ask you if you want to install the support for mp3
[11:23] <pierreth> ootput: but this will probably not work
[11:24] <ootput> i was under the impression that artsd was deprecated in favor of something else
[11:24] <steveire> how do I bind a key combination to a script?
[11:24] <fritsch> jujimufu: everything working? ;-)
[11:24] <pierreth> ootput: you have to sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3
[11:24] <jamadagni> @DaSkreech: why the topic itself says 3.5.4 availble
[11:24] <DaSkreech> fritsch: Where is the startkde script?
[11:24] <trappist> ootput: not yet
[11:24] <ootput> steveire: i use xbindkeys
[11:24] <ootput> pierreth: where did you find these instructions?
[11:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah :D DRI is working just fine on normal KDE. However, in XGL it's disabled. Any ideas why or how to correct this?
[11:25] <fritsch> DaSkreech: with name "startkde" or which one is loaded while starting up?
[11:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: no :-)
[11:25] <solemnwarning-lt> Holy crap
[11:25] <pierreth> ootput: then you can /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3&
[11:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: btw. XGL does not work without dri?
[11:25] <solemnwarning-lt> I just noticed, is this channel mode -t? o_O
[11:25] <Electrolyte> Is it possible to use Xine & ALSA for everything?
[11:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: it works slower, that's what I can say.
[11:25] <pierreth> ootput: there: http://www.destination-linux.org/Activer-le-support-des-MP3-dans-Amarok
[11:25] <steveire> ootput: I don't seem to have it. Is there a standard way?
[11:25] <Electrolyte> That includes system sound events :/
[11:25] <Electrolyte> Which is where my trouble is.
[11:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: but in KDE it works just fine. I don't know how it cannot work in my XGL session :\
[11:26] <trappist> solemnwarning-lt: don't make the ops regret it.
[11:26] <pierreth> ootput: but it is in French, it is OK for me!
[11:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: try glxgears -printfps in your xgl session
[11:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: does it work?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> fritsch: the startkde script that starts KDE I think
[11:26] <ootput> pierreth: hehe, thankyou anyway, i'll lookout for the code
[11:26] <jujimufu> fritsch: XGL works, but it's slow, just as glxgears was slow without DRI enabled in KDE.
[11:26] <pierreth> ootput: so this is for installing mp3 support, i don't if the aac support comes with it
[11:26] <jujimufu> fritsch: but it works :
[11:27] <fritsch> DaSkreech: X is started and on top kwin, at first kdm
[11:27] <ootput> is it ordinary to go through so much trouble to get sound going on Kubuntu 6.06?
[11:27] <trappist> jujimufu: xgl is a country mile from perfection
[11:27] <ootput> pierreth: yeah, i'm after flac, too
[11:27] <pierreth> ootput: i have installed other packages so don't know which one gives me the fonctionality
[11:27] <jujimufu> trappist: yeah, but it works :)
[11:27] <Electrolyte> ootpu: I'm sorta in the same area, is it so much trouble to get no sound bugs in Linux altogether :/
[11:27] <trappist> jujimufu: does kde-window-decorator work for you?
[11:27] <Electrolyte> The only distro I've found that doesn't have these bugs is SUSE10.
[11:27] <ootput> Electrolyte: yeah, i'm sprouting gray hairs as we speak
[11:27] <jujimufu> trappist: yeah
[11:28] <steveire> found it in kcontrol I think
[11:28] <pierreth> ootput: just make a search in your installer
[11:28] <jujimufu> trappist: everything works fine, it's just that things are slower in xgl
[11:28] <ootput> Electrolyte: i thought setup would be much simpler than this
[11:28] <jujimufu> trappist: I am trying with AiGLX now
[11:28] <trappist> jujimufu: lucky man.  it didn't here, and that was a dealbreaker for me
[11:28] <jujimufu> but btw, gset-compiz is not available, and it won't let me download compiz-vanilla. Any ideas?
[11:28] <ootput> Electrolyte: i've setup clusters in the past, and i can't even get this stinking sound to work on a sibling's computer :)
[11:28] <pierreth> ootput: i am very happy because i have a lot of music in iTunes in Mac OS X
[11:28] <Electrolyte> ootput: I've learnt that it's never easy to setup Linux.
[11:28] <trappist> jujimufu: what does "won't let me download" mean.
[11:28] <Electrolyte> This sound problem is the ONLY problem I have.
[11:28] <jujimufu> trappist: well, I spent 3 hours the day before yesterday to set up my direct rendering with fritsch
[11:29] <Electrolyte> Everything else is fine, and since I'm an audiophile, it's like the worst problem.
[11:29] <jujimufu> trappist: well, it says it requires gset-compiz, which is not available, and it will stop the download (apt-get, that is)
[11:29] <ootput> pierreth: merci beucoup
[11:29] <trappist> jujimufu: what requires it
[11:29] <ootput> pierreth: *beaucoup :)
[11:29] <pierreth> ootput: y a pas quoi!
[11:29] <josh__> can u set keyboard shortcuts in kde?
[11:30] <josh__> i know you can in the gnome desktop but i cant seem to find the keyboard shortcut control in the kde desktop
[11:30] <jujimufu> trappist: compiz-vanilla
[11:30] <jujimufu> josh__: what keyboard shortcut control?
[11:30] <jujimufu> josh__: to show desktop?
[11:30] <josh__> where i can define keyboard shortcuts
[11:31] <josh__> like ctrl+t will bring up a terminal
[11:31] <jujimufu> josh__: kcontrol
[11:31] <josh__> ok
[11:31] <josh__> also
[11:31] <steveire> josh__: kcontrol > accessibility
[11:31] <trappist> jujimufu: what is your package source for this stuff?  there's no such thing as either package in the dapper repos.
[11:31] <Gun_Smoke> josh__:  On the keyboard shortcut hotsheep on my wall. lol
[11:31] <josh__> can i use natuilus scripts with kde?
[11:31] <Electrolyte> ootput: I bet I won't ever get this problem sorted.
[11:31] <Gun_Smoke> hotsheet*
[11:31] <jujimufu> josh__: kcontrol -> regional and accesibility -> Keyboard shortcuts is what you were looking for
[11:31] <Electrolyte> ootput: I've updated to KDE 3.5.4 and I STILL get the problem :/
[11:31] <jujimufu> Electrolyte: yeah, 3.5.4 is buggier than 3.5.3 or 3.5.2 :)
[11:32] <trappist> Electrolyte: if it's possible, I don't recommend it.  stuff that is related to nautilus in any way has a habit of launching nautilus, which likes to commandeer your kde desktop
[11:32] <trappist> jujimufu: that hasn't been my experience at all
[11:32] <jujimufu> trappist: well, how can I override aq package dependancy?
[11:32] <Electrolyte> nautilus?
[11:32] <trappist> Electrolyte: well, at least now you can file a bug report :)  you have logged out and back in, right?
[11:32] <Electrolyte> Yes.
[11:32] <Electrolyte> Did a full system restart.
[11:33] <trappist> jujimufu: I don't know actually.  package dependencies usually are not jokes.  if compiz-vanilla says it needs that package, it probably *needs* it.
[11:33] <ootput> Electrolyte: what's the difference?
[11:33] <josh__> there isn't a terminal shortcut option?
[11:33] <Electrolyte> ootput - I don't think a login & logout restarts ALSA.
[11:33] <trappist> josh__: what's a terminal shortcut
[11:33] <josh__> bing up a terminal
[11:33] <josh__> a command prompt
[11:33] <jujimufu> trappist: everyone says it's obsolete, and it's not available because it's been removed from the repos. gconf-editor is used instead.
[11:34] <Electrolyte> Time to send a bug report and see what happens.
[11:34] <Electrolyte> Too bad I have to put up with the sounds :(
[11:34] <fdoving> josh__: from konqueror F4 (opens a konsole in the current dir)
[11:34] <trappist> josh__: I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking for
[11:34] <ootput> i'm going to restart
[11:34] <jujimufu> josh__: alt+f2 -> write konsole and press enter
[11:34] <ootput> Electrolyte: ^^
[11:34] <ootput> this had better work
[11:35] <jujimufu> josh__: you could also consider downloading yakuake which brings up a console emulator wherever you are, by pressing F12
[11:35] <jujimufu> really handy
[11:35] <fdoving> josh__: you can setup your own shortcut for it, if you rightclick on the kmenu -> menu editor -> find konsole in the menu, and make a shortcut for it :)
[11:35] <jujimufu> !yakuake > josh__
[11:35] <kubuntu_tester> hello
[11:36] <kubuntu_tester> I have upgraded xorg and now it's impossibile to launch the server
[11:36] <josh__> yeah baby yeah :)
[11:36] <josh__> thanks fdoving
[11:36] <kubuntu_tester> I receive an error code 104
[11:37] <josh__> its gonna take me a minute to get used to the kde gui
[11:37] <kubuntu_tester> someone can help me?
[11:37] <josh__> but i like it, its more user friendly
[11:37] <josh__> :)
[11:37] <josh__> later everyone :)
[11:37] <blewis> seem to have been a few probs with the xserver update although it solved an issue for me!
[11:38] <kubuntu_tester> before I had not problem
[11:38] <kubuntu_tester> I checked the config file and the log
[11:39] <pierreth> how can i have the view buttons in konqueror: http://www.konqueror.org/pics/konq_icon.png
[11:39] <kubuntu_tester> it seems that device section isnt recognized
[11:39] <kubuntu_tester> I have a dell i6000
[11:39] <blewis> hmm have to find some release notes on this upgrade
[11:39] <kubuntu_tester> with an x300 graphic card
[11:40] <ootput> surprise!
[11:40] <ootput> it didn't work :`(
[11:40] <pierreth> ootput: what have you done?
[11:40] <Electrolyte> Ok, I won't be sending this report as I think it's ALSA.
[11:40] <fdoving> pierreth: in konqueror go to the settings menu -> configure toolbars. add the icon you want.
[11:40] <kubuntu_tester> in the topic there is this phrase: Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)
[11:40] <Electrolyte> Xine is doing the same thing with wave files, causing a pop at the end - but setting Xine to OSS stops it.
[11:41] <kubuntu_tester> is it referred to my problem?
[11:41] <pierreth> fdoving: there are not there
[11:41] <spazz> WTF! its not taking my freakin password.
[11:41] <blewis> any info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[11:41] <pierreth> fdoving: it must be something that it is installed
[11:41] <spazz> i cant change the screen resolution.
[11:42] <blewis> what is the URL of that topic?
[11:42] <spazz> asks for root password, and i put it in. nothing happening.
[11:42] <blewis> sorry what are you doing spazz?
[11:43] <kubuntu_tester> blewish: Fatal error: screens not found
[11:43] <spazz> Trying to change the screen size.
[11:43] <spazz> So I went into the system settings, and display
[11:43] <pascal> How do I restore my X settings to what kubuntu originally detected?
[11:43] <fdoving> pierreth: good point, it's not in the list. Well, then i don't know, and i'm sorry, but i don't have time to investigate right now. Have to go to bed. work in less than 6 hours. gnite and good luck.
[11:43] <fdoving> nite all.
[11:43] <kubuntu_tester> pascal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:43] <pierreth> fdoving: bye!
[11:43] <pascal> spazz you need to type your own pasword
[11:43] <spazz> clicked administor mode, it asked for my password, and i put it in.. and then it goe sback to the page still not leting me change anything adn the administor mode button is greyed out now
[11:43] <kubuntu_tester> but it did not help me ;(
[11:43] <blewis> can you sudo at the command line
[11:44] <spazz> my OWN password? .. i dont have..err i only have a root password
[11:44] <pascal> kubuntu_tester But it asks a ton of questions that I don't have an answer for.
[11:44] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: what is the first line 'apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core' returns?
[11:44] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: something that ends with 10.4 - or 10.3 ?
[11:44] <noxs> hi all
[11:45] <pascal> hi there
[11:45] <kubuntu_tester> fdoving: I have to reboot, I'm using OSX now
[11:45] <reddwolf> hello all
[11:45] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: ok, hang on.
[11:45] <Electrolyte> And I just crashed amaroK.
[11:45] <Electrolyte> FS.
[11:45] <spazz> its not going to let me do anything.
[11:45] <reddwolf> i was woundering is it possable to play war of warcraft from cd on the linux setup
[11:45] <pascal> spazz did it accept your password?
[11:46] <spazz> i dont know
[11:46] <jujimufu> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:46] <jujimufu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-vanilla_0.0.13+cvs20060822_i386.deb
[11:46] <jujimufu>  /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-vanilla-gnome_0.0.13+cvs20060822_i386.deb
[11:46] <jujimufu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:46] <pascal> reddwolf yes. through cedega
[11:46] <spazz> its not letting me do anything though
[11:46] <jujimufu> is this an error, or I can continue?
[11:46] <spazz> i put in my password, which i know i typed right
[11:46] <reddwolf> how do i set that up
[11:46] <spazz> and the box dissapears
[11:46] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: if it ends with 10.4 after an 'sudo apt-get update' you should do an 'sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade' to get the new and fixed version of X. if it ends with 10.3 you should consider editing /etc/apt/sources.list and change your mirror to http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ for the line with the dapper-updates repository.
[11:46] <spazz> and then it makes the admin mode button grey out
[11:47] <kubuntu_tester> ok
[11:47] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: after changing to uk.archive.. run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade' and you should be all set with the newest and fixed X.
[11:47] <pascal> spazz try to restart systemsettings or reboot machine sometimes it works
[11:47] <kubuntu_tester> I will try this
[11:47] <kubuntu_tester> thanks
[11:47] <Electrolyte> I don't get this. Xine is causing the same problem with wave files if using ALSA.
[11:47] <Electrolyte> If using OSS, it doesn't.
[11:47] <spazz> argh thought you didnt have to reboot linux lol
[11:47] <pascal> hehe
[11:47] <pascal> sometimes it helps anyway
[11:47] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: but, changing mirror is only if, after an 'sudo apt-get update', you're still at 'something.. ubuntu10.3' with 'apt-cache madison xserver-xorg-core', roger?
[11:48] <reddwolf> pascal could you help me set that up
[11:48] <kubuntu_tester> ok, got it
[11:48] <reddwolf> for me to play my game of war craft
[11:48] <noxs> where to get automatix for kubuntu, or something else like this automated script?
[11:48] <noxs> its no need to have a GUI!
[11:48] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: ok, good, now i'm off to bed, so if anything is unclear you have 1 minute :)
[11:49] <pascal> reddwolf... Only problem is that it is a commercial product... it's pretty easy to get working, but it costs $5 every month... Too bad, but its the best out there
[11:49] <kubuntu_tester> 1 minute to boot, try this solution and come here is not enough
[11:49] <kubuntu_tester> but thanks, really
[11:49] <fdoving> jujimufu: your question, "is this an error"  when you pasted "Errors were encountered while processing:... " - answer: yes, multiple errors. one per package. atleast.
[11:49] <reddwolf> i have a version of the game that i bought from the store
[11:50] <pascal> reddwolf http://www.transgaming.com/
[11:50] <D4rkly> can you play battlefield2 in it ?
[11:50] <pascal> Reddwolf I know, it's just a tool to play windows games from linux
[11:50] <reddwolf> i don't whant to play the online version
[11:50] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: i'm sure someone else will help you if you get more problems. good luck. really have to go.
[11:50] <jujimufu> fdoving: yeah, what do I do to solve them?
[11:50] <reddwolf> oh
[11:50] <pascal> d4rkly yes I think so
[11:50] <D4rkly> cool
[11:51] <reddwolf> so for me to play my version i would still have to pay just to play it regulary
[11:51] <D4rkly> ive been trying to get wine working
[11:51] <D4rkly> it works but only if i dont use -opengl :(
[11:51] <fdoving> jujimufu: depends on the errors. you pasted a apt/dpkg summary. try to install the packages manually with 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[11:51] <reddwolf> unless i'm on my xp system
[11:51] <fdoving> jujimufu: if you're fast i can tell you what the error
[11:52] <fdoving> means.
[11:52] <pascal> reddwolf you can try wine... but it's a bit harder to get working if at all possible
[11:52] <reddwolf> oh
[11:52] <reddwolf> it does say that it is mac compatable
[11:53] <pascal> I'm afraid that wont work on linux ;-)
[11:53] <reddwolf> darn
[11:53] <reddwolf> i guess i will just have to play it on my xp system then
[11:53] <pascal> I can recommend a good opensource shoot-em-up though :-)
[11:53] <reddwolf> cool
[11:54] <pascal> http://www.nexuiz.com/
[11:54] <reddwolf> i will have to look into that
[11:54] <reddwolf> thanks
[11:54] <pascal> np
[11:54] <jujimufu> fdoving: I try to manually dpkg (dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/file.deb) compiz-vanilla, but I get this error:
[11:54] <jujimufu> Unpacking compiz-vanilla (from .../compiz-vanilla_0.0.13+cvs20060822_i386.deb) ...
[11:55] <jujimufu> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-vanilla_0.0.13+cvs20060822_i386.deb (--install):
[11:55] <jujimufu>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/compiz', which is also in package compiz-core
[11:55] <jujimufu> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:58] <fdoving> jujimufu: either remove compiz-core, or use --force-overwrite option to dpkg. (use at own risk)
[11:59] <Electrolyte> Well I'm about to give up with Linux again.
[11:59] <JGL> I'm trying to find the pgp public key for kubuntu repos, can someone help me?
[12:00] <jujimufu> fdoving: thanks :)
[12:00] <nikkun> JGL: which repos?
[12:00] <fdoving> JGL: kubuntu.org ?
[12:00] <JGL> yep
[12:00] <steveire> What do I need to make backups of before I start messing around with this xgl business?
[12:00] <fdoving> JGL: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php - one of the first lines.
[12:00] <JGL> for http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[12:01] <D4rkly> can someone help me setup apples darwin streaming server please ?
[12:01] <nikkun> JGL: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[12:01] <D4rkly> Couldn't find the en language messages file! at /usr/local/sbin/streamingadminserver.pl line 2167.
[12:01] <jott> amarok 1.4.2 has just been released ;)
[12:01] <fdoving> jott: nice :)
[12:01] <pascal> jibeee
[12:01] <nikkun> jott: not for kubuntu though
[12:01] <jott> no package yet as it seems ;)
[12:01] <pascal> :-(
[12:02] <JGL> nikkun fdoving --- Thanks a million
[12:02] <mark___> yeah i'm really after a package of 1.4.2
[12:02] <jott> diy :p
[12:02] <mark___> i have
[12:02] <nikkun> JGL: np
[12:02] <pascal> usually the packages comes out right after its out
[12:02] <word> er..
[12:02] <word> yes it works..
[12:03] <kubuntu_tester_> fdoving:  it works
[12:03] <kubuntu_tester_> thank you very much
[12:03] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: great, you're welcome :)
[12:04] <kubuntu_tester_> but why there isnt trace of this bug in launchpad.net?
[12:04] <mark___> hoyl crap
[12:04] <mark___> video transfer
[12:04] <mark___> on ipod
[12:04] <steveire> A new amarok package might get into dapper backports?
[12:04] <word> i just started up kubuntu...and it flashes to the console login screen..then it goes to a blank kubuntu load splash (like if you had incorrect xorg configuration) then it goes back to a flashing _ then back to the blank kubuntu loading screen..i just got rhapsody on so i can be on irc in command line (went to tty1)..i had no problems last night and made no system configuration since the last restart...any ideas? :(
[12:04] <mark___> amarok developers need some kind of trophy for "best dudes ever"
[12:04] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester_ there is.
[12:04] <kubuntu_tester_> where?
[12:04] <kubuntu_tester_> I searched in db
[12:05] <fdoving> word: did you upgrade your system, security updates?
[12:05] <kubuntu_tester_> can give me the link?
[12:05] <nikkun> word: run sudo apt-get update
[12:05] <nikkun> word: then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:05] <Electrolyte> Is there ANY way to get pure ALSA and nothing more?
[12:05] <word> fdoving: yes you're right! there was a xorg update! can't believe i forgot about that
[12:05] <blewis> word i had exactly the same thing happen
[12:05] <Electrolyte> This is REALLY starting to get on my sodding nerves.
[12:05] <word> this suddenly became a fixable problem ><
[12:05] <fdoving> kubuntu_tester: https://launchpad.net/bugs/57153
[12:05] <steveire> Do I need gdm to use compiz, or can I stick with kdm / will I even notice a difference?
[12:06] <blewis> have to do apt-get upgrade
[12:06] <mark___> yeah compiz needs the GDM
[12:06] <fdoving> word: yep,  'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade' will work if you have enabled the dapper-updates repository.
[12:06] <word> yup thanks it's updating now on tty2
[12:06] <jott> Electrolyte: what do you mean with "pure ALSA" ?
[12:06] <mark___> at least i couldn't make it work with the KDM
[12:06] <Electrolyte> Just have ALSA enabled and nothing else.
[12:07] <Electrolyte> XMMS running alone on ALSA is fine, but other programs aren't.
[12:07] <nikkun> electrolyte: unter control panel you goto audio and you can
[12:07] <Electrolyte> It's already set to ALSA :/
[12:07] <fdoving> word: great :)
[12:07] <Electrolyte> But I still get bleeding sound problems.
[12:07] <fdoving> now i'm really off to bed. nite all.
[12:07] <nikkun> electrolyte: then it should be runing ALSA only
[12:07] <word> thanks guys restarting now hopefully it works :D
[12:08] <jott> Electrolyte: programs still using oss can be "forced" to use alsa when you start them with "aoss youroldossapp"
[12:08] <Electrolyte> Well I don't know what is wrong with this sound engine but I'm about to format and go back to Windows because of it.
[12:08] <nikkun> electrolyte: what exactly is the problem?