=== fritsch [i=83soUHzm@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home2 [n=Christia@mut38-4-82-233-119-151.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@AC9F3122.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Karl_le_rouge [n=kurosaki@ALyon-253-1-92-136.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === z3423432 [n=z3423432@cc892663-a.zlr1.dr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === z3423432 [n=z3423432@cc892663-a.zlr1.dr.home.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-7-120.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Surak [n=ubuntu@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] This is happening quite often here: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000000000bca880 *** - Did I find a good way to test the ram? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === patwack_ [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs4-0-0-cust387.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] Howdy === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.228] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel === garnoma [i=garnoma@gateway/tor/x-4a4e572e47a494de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] does edgy offer an easy option to use xgl? [01:25] you know, like suse, mandriva, or other desktop-oriented distros [01:26] no, its not as easy as suse [01:27] tseng: on purpose, or is it just not a priority? [01:27] not a priority [01:27] if you want to get that control panel thing working on ubuntu, be our guest [01:28] tseng: what if we just added a script? [01:28] what sort of script? [01:28] should i file a bug stating that xrandr should be on a per-monitor basis? [01:28] tseng: a simple bash script which follows all the xgl installation steps [01:29] there arent really any steps [01:29] just changing the X symlink [01:29] tseng: i mean we shouldn't necessarily implement it in a control panel if it's not a priority yet [01:29] tseng: oh, so xgl is there in edgy, after all! [01:29] tseng: that's nice [01:29] the control panel is in suse [01:29] and I am not sure about this we business [01:29] tseng: i know [01:31] 90% of the control panel configures compiz [01:31] anyway [01:31] our xorg includes aiglx, which is more the direction we are going for a default [01:31] xgl is there for those who are interested === rc55 [n=rc55@82.152.146.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy installs avahi but can't figure out how to share files [01:33] scp time [01:34] tseng: we still lack drivers for aiglx [01:35] tseng: xgl is an imperative for now for many [01:35] tseng: so i'd say it's not just for "those who are interested" [01:35] it is hardly an imperative at all [01:35] xgl doesnt work on most hardware either [01:36] tseng: so you mean simply chaging the symlink also brings compiz? [01:36] no, I don't [01:36] tseng: then i guess we do need a script [01:36] it's hard to install compiz? [01:36] Is hwdata still being used? [01:36] you can write a script [01:36] it isnt a "we" [01:37] a package script shouldnt change user xinit files [01:39] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager [01:39] I intentionally broke hwdata's videoaliases file, however "db_get xserver-xorg/config/device/driver " still gives me correct results. [01:40] which means the video drivers database is coming from somewhere else [01:40] hi, what package updated fstab to reflect uuid changes? [01:41] currently, volumeid. [01:42] i didn't say "we should", i said "we need" :) [01:42] I'll confirm that, but I think the inst scripts 'removed' the swap fs line [01:43] I thought that hwdata was used only to determine the video driver - if this is not the case, why it's still there? [01:43] tseng: it could backup them [01:43] tseng: what do you mean 90% of the control panel configures compiz? [01:43] mine's present: UUID=c2ce6095-841a-4ec6-8ff4-a0c0c1a43920 none swap sw 0 0 [01:43] garnoma: I think the problem was with the "we" part not the "should/need" part [01:43] garnoma: i meant what i said, the main purpose of the panel is to set gconf keys to control compiz behaviour === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] (which means most of it is instantly portable to ubuntu) [01:45] probably [01:45] garnoma, aiglx is the way forward. XGL simply has too many bugs [01:46] Burgwork: of course! actually i never said i didn't agree [01:46] garnoma, the only things that don't work with aiglx are nvidia cards now [01:46] ati has updated their drivers [01:47] Burgwork: didn't know that about ati, maybe they did it very recently.. now any hopes nvidia will soon do it too? === gort [n=jgbiggs@cpe-24-175-10-187.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-228.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shenki [n=shenki@121.44.128.190] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:55] no idea [01:56] after restoring the original fstab file, I ran "volumeid.postinst configure" again and it indeed preserved the swap file as expected. the changelog.Debian doesn't indicate any related fix in previous versions, though [01:58] nicolaw, hmm, i think that was mispasted [01:58] nictuku, rather [01:58] I'm not crazy :) === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === garnoma [i=garnoma@gateway/tor/x-4a4e572e47a494de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:05] Well, if db_get is not getting xorg's driver from hwdata, where does it get this information from? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-189-105.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.163.228] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FD74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ is now known as zul === kontiki [n=j1@dwin-wlan-105.AirBears.Berkeley.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:40] night all. === shenki_ [n=shenki@121.44.128.190] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.222.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === coreyt [n=corey@pool-71-252-227-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] Launchpad is going down in 15 minutes. Estimated downtime is 3.5 hours. This is to perform a large amount of data migration to open Edgy translations up under Rosetta. [04:47] stub; good luck! === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joshuapurcell [n=lane@c-67-172-194-163.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hagbarddenstore [n=hagbardd@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fdsd [n=dcstimm@ip68-8-230-16.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:29] hey guys, I am making livecds, I made one ppc live cd, everything went very smoothly and its all set, but now I am trying to make a x86 livecd from ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso and I am running into issues. I am trying to modify the usplash boot up, I was able to do it perfectly following this howto on my ppc livecd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto but for some reason with x86 ubuntu even installed on my [05:29] machine I install my new usplash and it only boots to black now. ANy ideas [05:29] any idea? === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bj_ [n=bj@ool-18bbaf15.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:56] any idea? === Gman is now known as GmanAFK === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-189-105.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.191] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:03] lol drepper's right [07:03] maximum common prefix length for libgtk: 32 characters [07:03] maximum common prefix length for libgtkmm: 229 characters === ge_ubuntu [n=zvi@217.147.238.7] has joined #UBUNTU-DEVEL === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.15] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ctd [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:203:baff:fe0f:12e9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags_ [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:04] anyone awake at this ungoddessly hour? :) [08:09] it's 1610 [08:09] :P === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:12] for me it's 07:12 :) === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.6.194.198] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:12] and I've not been to sleep yet [08:13] just a short question, really - not (completely and exclusively) for ubuntu, so I'm relying on goodwill, if you've got a bit to spare (no code! promise) [08:13] hi [08:14] Kamion: around ? === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:16] I've spent most of yesterday and all of last night helping people with wireless lan issues. So I was thinking about building a program that automatically detects and installs such drivers while taking all possible factors into account === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:16] starting off with wlan drivers for ubuntu, obviously ;) [08:18] couple of pages of mental dump at http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/initial-spec.odt === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@87.65.106.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=crack@host-87-74-18-62.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:32] raphink: around ? === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-3-190.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@110.Red-81-39-99.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:44] ugh, evolution definitely has a leak. [08:44] a bad leak. [08:44] it can only run for a few hours === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] bluefoxicy: evo has a few leaks [08:49] Burgundavia: yeah, I've been noticing [08:49] Burgundavia: I was trying to be a pseudo-engineer and it was cranking my disk massively. [08:49] http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2006-08/msg00234.html :D === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.36.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] slomo__: s-d-p in edgy seems unhappy. === Keybuk [n=scott@paperboy.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] slomo__: "You need at least avahi 0.6.9" and I have 0.6.12 installed. === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir [09:06] not a 1 < 9 problem? === ge_ubuntu [n=zvi@217.147.227.2] has joined #UBUNTU-DEVEL [09:07] Hobbsee: good morning, dudette [09:07] Keybuk: unsure. Haven't looked at the code yet. [09:07] "Do you know 'Haben Sie Gehort Das Deutsche Band' ?" [09:07] Mithrandir: greetings [09:07] Keybuk: I believe it's "Haben Sie Das Deutsche Band gehort"? [09:07] ;) === Hobbsee suspects that simira is right. [09:08] simira: the name of the song is the former [09:08] the germans tend to put words in odd places [09:08] Keybuk: oh [09:08] my bad, then [09:08] MIT A BANG! MIT A BOOM! MIT A BING-BANG BING_BANG BOOM!" [09:08] haha === Hobbsee wonders at Keybuk's sanity [09:09] I'm just happy that my hangover is gone [09:09] ah, fair enough. you know, if you didnt drink so much, you wouldnt get a hangover :P === Hobbsee ducks [09:09] Hobbsee: what's there to wonder about it? It's proven to be non-existent. :-) [09:10] Hey Hobbsee [09:10] hey pitti! [09:10] Mithrandir: good point. [09:10] Keybuk: your new init-crack. when are we going to be able to break our machines with it? === HiddenWolf 's ears perk up [09:11] Kamion: I believe most of the bugs are marked buplicate of bug 47046 [09:11] Malone bug 47046 in ubiquity "breaks if system partitions are not reformatted" [High,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47046 [09:12] morning guys [09:13] Burgundavia: today maybe [09:13] oh shiny. [09:13] got to shiny the config file sode and package it [09:13] uh, code [09:16] Burgundavia: exactly how will the machines break? ie, not boot? [09:16] Hobbsee: given it is a new init, who knows. I expect much fun and merriment [09:17] Burgundavia: true that. === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GmanAFK is now known as Gman === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.3.253.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] pitti: ping === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:30] Hobbsee: likely problems at first will be [09:30] - only runlevel 2 available [09:30] - no shutdown, reboot, poweroff, etc. commands [09:31] Keybuk: thanks for the info [09:31] night all [09:31] Keybuk: yay? [09:32] i guess that as long as we can actually boot the machine, that's cool [09:33] Keybuk: i suspect that you might single handedly stop users installing edgy, and expecting it to work. thanks for that :) === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-3-190.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:44] Keybuk: nobody uses runlevels and computers shouldn't be powered off, so that's fine. [09:45] Mithrandir: except when they're laptops, and taken places :P [09:45] Hobbsee: pft. My laptop's not powered off when moved anywhere [09:45] I just carry mine around the house. [09:46] Though I'll admit to powering it off when I travel overseas. [09:46] Mithrandir: point. i dont like the idea of it flying around my car though :P [09:46] s/ Mithrandir / infinity === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@82.109.136.119] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:11] whoo! /dev/hd{ === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@mailhost.newtec.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] pitti, output of "mount": [10:22] ltspfs on /tmp/.ogra2-ltspfs/cdrom type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=ogra2) [10:22] /tmp/.ogra2-ltspfs/cdrom on /media/ogra2/cdrom type none (rw,bind) === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] ogra: ^ that matches /etc/mtab, I presume [10:23] and cat /proc/mounts : [10:23] ltspfs /tmp/.ogra2-ltspfs/cdrom fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=1002,group_id=1002 0 0 [10:23] ltspfs /media/ogra2/cdrom fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=1002,group_id=1002 0 0 [10:23] and yes, it matches === Spads [n=crack@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnux123 [n=grexk@124.107.72.42] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnux123 [n=grexk@124.107.72.42] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:34] ajmitch: have you forgot to push you networkauth changes? [10:34] ajmitch: speaking of push, can you please push your cdbs merge? === doko [n=doko@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] morning everyone === shenki [n=shenki@121.44.128.190] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheJaaazz [n=TheJaaaz@h062040154038.bad.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus_ [n=rodarvus@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] infinity: dput does whine that you're uploading with an unsigned key, but doesnt actually prohibit you from doing so. go figure. [10:58] simira: 47046 is one of the ones for which DebuggingUbiquity has instructions, so it's probably ok, but I'll check later [10:58] Kamion: np, just wanted to make sure === seb128 [n=seb@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [n=loevborg@dslb-084-056-023-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:58] who is taking care of NEW processing ? it seems that there are tons of packages in debian which aren't in ubuntu yet === doko [n=doko@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] lucas: possibly infinity? [10:59] or Keybuk? [10:59] teh hackers are doing teh grubbing [10:59] that's not NEW processing, that's syncing [10:59] note that we are post-UVF [11:00] though not for universe, but it still means you need to request manually [11:00] ah right, i thought they did that too [11:00] hi Kamion, btw. how are holidays? [11:02] some of the packages I'm talking about where already in debian at UVF time, but weren't synced [11:03] an example is clutter - http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/clutter.html [11:03] (just picked randomly, I'm not interested in this package in particular) [11:03] yay clutter === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] Hobbsee: they were great, but are no longer ;-) [11:16] Kamion: ahh...pity :P [11:16] lucas: yes, syncs of new packages were a bit haphazard this cycle (many were done, but not entirely automatically). please request manual syncs of ones you care about [11:16] Kamion: so people can whine at you to DO SOME WORK! :D :P [11:16] I'm sure I've said this already ... [11:16] Hobbsee: well, that's kind of what Wiesbaden is for ;) [11:16] Kamion: of course :) [11:16] Kamion: like i could order you around, anyway === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@80.Red-83-50-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:17] Kamion: I'm a bit concerned about this policy ("manual syncs of ones you care about") : it means that if no ubuntu dev care for a package, people who care for it, but aren't ubuntu devs, are going to miss it in edgy ? === lloydinho [n=andreas@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] lucas: We've been suffering some growing pains so, yes, manual requests will have to do for now. [11:26] lucas: It's not ideal, but we don't have the time to resolve all these issues before release. [11:27] lucas: anyone else can always ask and we'll get somebody with permissions to authorise it [11:27] syncs are easy enough [11:27] we just don't want to do a mass pass over them at this point, plus what infinity said === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@ool-4577863a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@110.Red-81-39-99.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] infinity: can you please giveback gnome-media and gnome-mag to the builds? [11:33] geser: Sure. [11:33] the build-depends are installable again === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.117.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B29BDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] does the new apt in edgy have a translator? at the end of each repo i get something like translation_en_us [11:38] thats during apt-get update [11:40] gnomefreak: well, rosetta now supports translations for universe as well as main now [11:40] ah ok [11:40] ty :) [11:45] I've got a stupid question... What's the WNPP equivalent for MOTUs? === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.31] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:46] sfllaw, we don't have a WNPP equivalent AFAIK, but a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [11:47] and REVU :) [11:48] there's a kubuntu page for that as well w.k.u/KubuntuSuggestedPackages [11:48] seems a bit superflous [11:49] it is, it needs merged with https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Candidates/Kubuntu === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.7.53.151] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:50] Gloubiboulga: Thanks. [11:50] ...indeed. === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.3.253.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:19] hm, googleearth claims that it's more than 1k pizza places in and near Wiesbaden. That must crave for a pizza tonight! [12:19] I was in a nice Italian Restaurant in Wiesbaden 10 days ago [12:19] but I forgot the name (and my parents paid :) ) === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [n=fabbione@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ctd [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:203:baff:fe0f:12e9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=kagou@84.7.49.238] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] pitti: any chance you could do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportConsoleSetup for me? === seb128 [n=seb@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] Mithrandir: please ask me again this afternoon === lukketto [n=lukketto@host99-159.pool876.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@di-pc66.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@mail.openadvantage.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] hey === danielinu [n=striker@host10-185.pool8716.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] infinity: ruby is still broken on powerpc, causing a lot of packages to FTBFS [01:16] the xorg bug is marked as fix released, but the version mentioned in the bug (_10.4) doesn't seem to be in my archive (i use archive.ubuntu.com). Has this fix arrived already, or is it still building? [01:17] mdke, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/xorg-server/1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 [01:18] infinity: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3917415/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.librmagick-ruby_1.12.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:18] infinity: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3926633/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.revolution_0.5-3ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:18] rodarvus: I'm i386. Is there a delay building building and getting into archive.u.c? === Gman [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] mdke, yes, a little while, but shouldn't be long [01:19] anyhow, if it is really urgent, you can download the package from http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/ [01:20] no, not urgent, I'm just curious about how "fix released" is used on LP [01:20] and ruby1.9 probably needs some attention too: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3921610/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.ruby1.9_1.9.0%2B20060423-3.1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:20] (well, or from https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/238104, since it is already built for i386) [01:20] i suppose in theory the best thing would be for LP itself to change the bug status as things get built/published [01:21] rodarvus: nice work for fixing it so fast === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [n=loevborg@dslb-084-056-023-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@AC9F3122.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CocaCola77 [n=notyourb@s55924cc8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Antiliis [n=A@84-122-254-228.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ge_ubuntu [n=zvi@217.147.227.2] has joined #UBUNTU-DEVEL === Antiliis [n=A@84-122-254-228.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] *yawn* [01:53] hi ivoks [01:53] I knew I'd pay for having seconds [01:54] Keybuk: fatty. [01:54] pitti: hi [01:55] thom: sadly so === Keybuk wobbles [01:55] ehm - I thought dapper bcm43xx was meant to work for powerbooks? [01:55] elmo: maybe a little, as long as you have firmware to upload? [01:55] ah, hmm [01:55] good point ;-) [01:56] the driver seems quite good once you get the firmware in there [01:57] only 11mbit right? === fabbione [n=fabbione@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@host91-145.pool8711.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jelmer [n=jelmer@gwalcmai.vernstok.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === erez [n=erez@85-250-221-13.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joumetal [n=mettala@letku30.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] ajmitch: Hi! how's NetworkAuthentication coming along? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] Keybuk: Hi [02:26] Keybuk: Any chance #51304 can be fixed for edgy? It hasn't been touched in ages, and the patch is well tested. It's a requirement for bzr-svn, so it'd be nice if it could go into edgy. [02:26] The patch only touches already broken functionality and includes unit tests. [02:26] bug 51304 [02:26] Malone bug 51304 in subversion "Improvements to Python bindings" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51304 [02:30] infinity / Kamion: I need to file a lot of removal requests, all for the same reason (removal of ruby 1.6 packages). Can I file a single bug with all the packages in it ? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-43.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@unaffiliated/harti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] ("a lot of" = 20-25) [02:31] lucas: Would probably best to do a single bug with the list, yeah, since they're all related. [02:32] lucas: yes [02:32] ok === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:33] jelmer: that seems reasonable to me, although ideally it would go into Debian too so that we don't have to carry the patch until Subversion 1.5 [02:33] of course you'll need to find a core developer to upload them === kylem [n=kyle@206-248-151-76.dsl.ncf.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] jelmer: Assign the bug to me (adconrad in launchpad) and I'll look at it. [02:34] jelmer: I'll get the patch into Debian as well. [02:35] ajmitch: please go ahead with uploading the cdbs merge (and please bzr push it) === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] infinity: Thanks! === joumetal [n=mettala@letku30.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Lhdss"] === Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ [n=ogra@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yvonne_ [n=Yvon@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] good morning [02:43] Morning, BlackBrain. [02:43] anyone have install fwbuilder 2.1 on ubuntu? === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] infinity: I've reassigned the bug to you. If there's anything else you need, please let me know. [02:49] jelmer: I'll poke you after I've had a chance to look it over, if I have any questions. [02:50] jelmer: If it's all straightforward enough, I'll push it into Debian and Ubuntu in time for both etch and edgy. === ogra [n=ogra@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ctd [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === patwack [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs4-0-0-cust387.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host99-159.pool876.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === patwack_ [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs4-0-0-cust387.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.3.253.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [n=fabbione@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@82.109.136.102] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kylem_ [n=kyle@206-248-151-76.dsl.ncf.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [n=loevborg@dslb-084-056-023-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm2-0-75146.0x535a2f1e.vgnxx2.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@AC9F3122.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] *sigh* ... it didn't core dump, but it also didn't behave correctly either [03:57] <_ion> upstart? === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] _ion: just the config parser === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-226-171.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@AC9F3122.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@43.173-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mirv [n=tajyrink@pdpc/supporter/active/Mirv] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:25] Hmm. It would sure be nice to have a second initramfs made which dropped to a console and had various fsck utilities [04:26] wasabi_: you mean like evms-bootdebug? [04:26] Maybe. Never heard of it. === olemke [n=olemke@p54895C3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:29] Hmm. Interesting. I guess thought, I mean, by default. [04:29] (recovery mode) is made by default, but isn't useful if / is broke. [04:29] a (pre-boot mode) or something, made by default, would be nice. [04:31] Morning folks === pygi [n=pygi@89-172-229-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kokey [n=jramirez@201.123.187.188] has joined #ubuntu-devel === leonel [n=leonel@201.155.179.189] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kokey [n=jramirez@201.123.187.188] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [04:41] enrico: if I put "tags file:/usr/share/debtags/" in the default debtags sources.list that should pick up the included database no? (it doesn't seem to be) [04:45] who is it I speak to about getting a mailing list set uop === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-227-23.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] Mez: smurf, maybe? === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hagbarddenstore [n=hagbardd@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:55] rodarvus: re xorg broken bug: people are wondering why you uploaded urgency=low. Might be good to reply to the bug and/or take note. [04:55] bug 57153 [04:55] Malone bug 57153 in xorg-server "xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 breaks X: "no screens found"" [High,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57153 [04:56] HiddenWolf: because in LP world makes no real difference [04:56] fabbione: people think it does, so it does. :) [04:59] HiddenWolf: it makes no difference [04:59] people need to do something more useful. :-) [05:00] Kamion: absolutely - the list of duplicates is breathtaking already [05:00] Kamion: you know, if you removed all the people, you wouldnt have such a problem :P [05:01] dholbach: I know it makes no difference technically, but it makes a difference in how people percieve it. === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:01] I've followed up to the bug === kylem_ is now known as kylem [05:03] HiddenWolf: those few that had an opinion about the 'low' bit really can't say that nobody took the bug serious [05:03] HiddenWolf: and that's all that counts. [05:04] rodarvus does an absolutely ROCKing job. End of story. :-) === dholbach hugs rodarvus [05:04] what amuses me is that if X broke, so that it was unusable, is how many dupes we got [05:04] surely not that many people know how to use lynx [05:05] unless htey used another machine, of course [05:05] Hobbsee: live CD [05:05] sivang, poke? [05:05] Hobbsee: no, but they know how to bitch [05:05] dholbach: Oh, it's not critisism, I think the entire team rocks, but it's important to see how people percieve such things. [05:05] I wonder how many people will just give up Ubuntu after this [05:05] HiddenWolf: tell them to go $somewhere [05:05] Hobbsee: they dont know how to check for duplicates though === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] fabbione: I'd rather keep em. :) [05:05] Treenaks: about the compiz stuff.... i am sorry but my powerbook died today [05:05] Treenaks: hw death [05:06] zul: indeed. pity [05:06] fabbione: np, the guy f*d up the packages today too [05:06] Treenaks: i've already heard of one. [05:06] and they mail me personally [05:06] fabbione: true that. [05:06] pitti: make sure malone #56484 doesn't go un-noticed. Would you say we need sjoerd for that one? [05:06] Malone bug 56484 in hal "hal does not detect media change in USB-DVD-Drive" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56484 [05:06] HiddenWolf: the discussion doesn't really help... they obviously don't understand what's going on, so their judgement and perception is flawed in that respect. [05:07] sivang: nice target for tomorrow's bug day :) [05:07] pitti: hehe, okay then, noted :-) [05:07] sivang: I'm in feature development mode ATM, but I'll do bug triaging tomorrow [05:08] pitti: ah, right, forgot [05:08] Riddell: no, it won't: it expects a vocabulary.gz [05:08] pitti: the description is actually not reflective, this breaks the whole info.category = 'cdrom' attributes.. [05:08] dholbach: but they are users, normal people who tell their aunts and uncles to try this rocking thing, so it is important to respect that in public responses and issues. But this does not seem to be on-topic here. [05:08] enrico: ok, so I need to ship that too [05:09] HiddenWolf: i'm not sure a changelog or a message on edgy-changes@ is a 'public response' [05:10] dholbach: This is quite a high-profile bug, which gets a lot of attention, which makes it public. [05:10] dholbach: anyway, I'll cede the point [05:11] fabbione, Treenaks: what about compiz? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:11] HiddenWolf: I understand your point. [05:12] seb128: nothing to worry about.. i primised a ppc build for Treenaks of some snapshot.. but my ppc died.. [05:12] heh...stupid ppc === fabbione larts zul with a cluebat [05:12] fabbione: ok, because it would be nice to have an update to edgy universe [05:12] seb128: that's what the subject... [05:13] seb128: go ahead.. i can't really test it here on the production server [05:13] I would rather say "stupid fabbione", he probably did something to break the ppc :p [05:13] at least if i want to survive 20 people yelling at me for an internet connection === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F79DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 runs === fabbione goes to say a few words to seb128 === whip|lwe is now known as whiprush === silbs [n=jane@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:16] Riddell: yes... another way is to fix the updater code to fallback on 'vocabulary' if 'vocabulary.gz' isn't available; however, I'm sorry I'm not touching that code again [05:17] Riddell: I've never gotten my read around libapt-pkg's fetcher, and I feel that touching that code means one day of work to make it work again === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host74-158.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:35] dholbach: ping [05:36] lfittl: pong === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounkf@fw2.cgpvicto.qc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:40] Keybuk: does the TB have a mailing list or mail address? [05:41] technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host74-158.pool877.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [05:41] Keybuk: gracias [05:43] why aren't these sysconf names supported: _SC_2_C_VERSION, _SC_XOPEN_ENH_I18N, _SC_XOPEN_CRYPT, _SC_XOPEN_SHM, _SC_XOPEN_LEGACY. It seems that it should be supported since 5.10: http://www.sourcentral.org/man/ubuntu510/7+unistd.h === nags [n=nags@59.144.55.112] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:45] cr3: manpages are not guaranteed to be uptodate [05:46] azeem: cr3 is claiming that the man page is ahead of the implementation, not behind it [05:46] although anyway those man pages are just copies of the current POSIX specification [05:47] cr3: all those names are in /usr/include/bits/confname.h on edgy [05:47] Kamion: yeah, I noticed, but sysconf(name) returns -1 in all those cases [05:47] Kamion: what's weird is that _SC_2_C_VERSION shouldn't be too hard to support :) [05:48] Kamion: as with last week, I can't make the CC meeting, would you pass on in the meeting my fanboy support of the members that I mailed in last week? === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:48] cr3: I can't find the specification of that name [05:48] mdke: I've been on vacation and I'm not sure I'll be able to find that mail in the pile [05:49] Kamion: it was the the cc list, if that helps with the filter [05:49] mdke: is it Message-ID: <44E05F45.40107@ubuntu.com>? [05:49] Subject: Today's meeting (member candidates) and wiki licensing [05:49] yep [05:49] sure [05:49] thanks [05:49] sorry for absence, let's see more evening meetings! :) [05:50] which package creates /lib/cpp? dpkg -S doesn't return anything so it's probably in a postinst script [05:50] cr3: cpp [05:50] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-07-10 12:41 /lib/cpp -> /etc/alternatives/cpp [05:50] follow the symlinks [05:52] oh, _SC_2_C_VERSION is the version of the standard [05:52] check glibc [05:52] <\sh> moins === leonel [n=leonel@201.155.179.189] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [05:53] <\sh> Guys, could it be, that we have a problem with edgies gcc? regarding https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/56965 it looks like...the same wine version compiled on dapper works [05:53] Malone bug 56965 in wine "[Edgy] Consistent segfault when starting wine" [Medium,Confirmed] === TomB| [n=ownthebo@AC9F3122.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:56] \sh: SSP problem? [05:56] \sh: try with -fno-stack-protector [05:58] \sh: ^ if this helps, please add it to the problems list on wiki.ubuntu.com/GccSsp [05:59] <\sh> tseng: trying [05:59] <\sh> pitti: I will :) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:01] <\sh> for the next release, please remind me, to not touch wine ,) === dholbach_ [n=daniel@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bj_ [n=bj@ool-18bbaf15.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === drivel [n=drivel@218.28.177.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Harti [n=Harti@unaffiliated/harti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA3E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@p54895C3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:29] so, anyone up for pizza tonight? [06:30] simira, *hugs* long time no speak [06:31] Mez: since Montreal or something. How are you? [06:32] simira, indeed since montreal :d I'm good [06:33] Mithrandir: known problem... will be fixed soon :) === ^robertj [n=rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:38] infinity: please give-back gnome-sharp2 on ppc, thanks :) === thom growls at firefox [06:42] #57316 is especially great when you need to use keygen several times a day for work === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:44] <^robertj> has proposed-updates ever been proposed? It apparently never made it as far as a spec. === jdodson [n=jdodson@71-222-49-44.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson [n=bronson@a44.uchastings.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdodson [n=jdodson@71-222-49-44.ptld.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [06:47] thom: I'm sure Ian would be happy for you to start maintaining it again ;-) [06:48] ^robertj: you mean the existing and working dapper-proposed? [06:48] Kamion: hahaha [06:48] <^robertj> Kamion: yeah, something like that ;) [06:49] <^robertj> how long was that xorg package incubated in there? === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:51] Kamion: is backports working yet ?> [06:51] Mez: no, sorry - it's one of the things we're going to talk about this week [06:52] ^robertj: dapper-proposed isn't mandatory, and wasn't used in this case [06:52] seb128: fabio's ppc died, _and_ the guy who made the snapshot broke his snapshots [06:52] Kamion: when i'm back i'm gonna be bugging ya :P [06:52] Treenaks: how does it broke the snapshots? [06:53] <^robertj> Kamion: ok, thanks for the info [06:53] Treenaks: ajmitch is supposed to work on an update [06:53] seb128: he broke the packages when he split out the plugins [06:53] seb128: oh, I pointed at some guy 'Quinn''s page (ubuntu.compiz.net) [06:53] Mez: honeestly, I doubt bugging me will help [06:54] hey, really quick, with x-chat, gaim or whatever is the defaults for an Ubuntu install...can someone change the default Freenode server settings to use Port 8001 so the DCC exploit can be prevented for everyone from the get-go? [06:54] thanks [06:54] nixternal: dcc exploit? [06:54] Treenaks: could you encourage that guy to become motu and work with ubuntu instead of packaging that somewhere else? [06:54] !exploit [06:54] seb128: I've only just found the packages using google [06:54] hrmm [06:55] Treenaks: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware or connect to irc.freenode.net:8001 - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068 [06:55] nixternal: fix the routers, imho === ^robertj concurs [06:55] ya, not every newbie really knows how..this can be prevented on our side as well [06:56] <^robertj> nixternal: other problems can't be. If anything freenode ought to just test for that like people used to check for wingate sploits [06:56] nixternal: this would break a lot of people's outbound firewall rules [06:56] Heh. Apparently I should learn that fileutils is coreutils these days. ;) [06:57] maswan: "these days" being "for four years or so"? :-P [06:57] good point Keybuk, but if people are knowledgeable to setup firewall rules, then it wouldn't be difficult for them to fix it as well [06:57] <^robertj> could coreutils carry a pthon dep so pastbin can be included ;) [06:58] <_ion> keybuk: Btw, wouldn't it be easier just to use a parser generator to create the config file parsing code? [06:58] <^robertj> nixternal: Ubuntu has more than enough work creating a linux distro without trying be general technoligical super-heros [06:58] <^robertj> nixternal: if their router sucks it's their problem [06:58] I think fileutils is coreutils since April 2000 (but I might be wrong here) [06:58] wow, ok then. thanks [06:58] Mithrandir: Well, yeah, something like that. Last time I reported a bug it was fileutils. :) === LarstiQ [n=larstiq@cust.7.157.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:59] _ion: I considered that, and even tried it for the first run, but never managed to get it to work [06:59] <^robertj> that's like adding options to the gui for "use high-contrast mode only for top half of display" for people with burn't out backlights [06:59] Kamion: well, not bugging... but - making sure I know whats going on [06:59] Mez: if there is any change in the status, I'm sure you'll be informed [07:00] Keybuk:cheers :D... [07:01] you'll notice, if nothing else :) [07:02] rodarvus: Hmm.. I think GNU fileutils 4.0 was in existance in october 2000 and not too obsolete. :) [07:02] Kamion: you mean the reduction of people asking me when it'll work again [07:02] ?> [07:03]