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rodarvusfabbione, I added a patch for pci domains support to xorg-server on dapper-updates09:45
rodarvus(this patch was requested by ben, for a customer, I think)09:46
rodarvusunfortunately this patch breaks X for a few configurations, so I'm reverting it, for the moment09:46
rodarvus(actually, I'm test building it locally, before the upload)09:46
fabbionerodarvus: make sense yes09:48
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Seveasfabbione, could you accept Ubugtu as a member of the X swat on launchpad please11:38
fabbioneSeveas: why does it need to be memeber of the group?11:42
rodarvusfabbione, I asked Seveas for Ubugtu to announce new X.Org bugs here11:43
fabbioneah ok11:43
rodarvus(makes it easy to catch important bugs quickly)11:44
Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter11:46
Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter /home/dennis/ubugtu/data/bugmail-x11:46
Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True11:46
Seveas@config list plugins.bugtracker 11:47
UbugtuNew bug: #57153 in xorg-server "xorg-server 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 breaks X: "no screens found"" [High,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5715311:47
UbugtuNew bug: #57216 in xorg-server "New update kills ATI detection" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5721611:47
Seveasrodarvus, it's working11:47
rodarvusSeveas, thanks a lot!11:47
UbugtuNew bug: #57221 in xorg-server "gdm never starts after upgrade of xserver-xorg-core" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5722112:25
UbugtuNew bug: #57222 in xorg-server "xorg-core update 10.3 breaks X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5722212:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #57227 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 missing some device drivers? X doesn't start: stops to fatal error" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5722712:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #57229 in xorg "Kubuntu drops me unpredictably to tty1, tty2 etc" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5722901:00
UbugtuNew bug: #57232 in xorg-server "1.0.3 breaks X" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5723201:25
UbugtuNew bug: #57236 in xorg-server "My X will not start again after last update" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5723601:36
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UbugtuNew bug: #57238 in xorg-server "X doesnt start: No devices detected." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5723802:00
UbugtuNew bug: #57239 in xorg-server "video card no detected anymore" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5723902:00
UbugtuNew bug: #57263 in xorg-server "Failed to detect GPU after upgrade" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5726302:35
UbugtuNew bug: #57276 in xorg-server "X fails to find savage card after upgrade to xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5727602:50
UbugtuNew bug: #57278 in xorg-server "Kubuntu dapper: xserver-xorg-core 10.3 doesn't work with nvidia_glx" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5727802:50
UbugtuNew bug: #57282 in xorg-server "After upgrading dapper 22:nd of august, X doesn't start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5728203:00
UbugtuNew bug: #57283 in xorg "latest xserver fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5728303:00
UbugtuNew bug: #57287 in xorg-server "X fails to find ATI Radeon chip after upgrade to xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5728703:15
UbugtuNew bug: #57288 in xorg-server "latest update of xserver-xorg-core fails PCI scan" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5728803:21
UbugtuNew bug: #57290 in xorg-server "Xserver fails after restart" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5729003:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #57292 in xorg-server "Recent versions in dapper-updates break mga200 detection" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5729203:35
UbugtuNew bug: #57295 in xorg-server "xserver-xorg-core update on August 22, 2006 blows up" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5729504:00
Mithrandirrodarvus: how do you feel about building kdrive from xorg-server?04:14
UbugtuNew bug: #57297 in xorg-server "Update to version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3: xserver not longer starts" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5729704:35
Mithrandirwe're aiming for most-duplicated bug report?04:37
Mithrandirrodarvus: also, what's happening with xapps?  I thought we were just going to sync them?04:56
UbugtuNew bug: #57304 in xorg-server "updating to the newest package 1.0.2 ubuntu10.3 makes the xserver unable to start" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5730405:11
rodarvusMithrandir, yes, I think kdrive could be built by xorg-server indeed. I haven't checked the source code inside xorg-server to be sincere, but it surely deserves an investigation05:35
rodarvusbasically the reason I haven't done that before is because there was a reasonable chance the version of kdrive inside xorg-server was crap (and I didn't have had much time to deal with it yet)05:36
rodarvusMithrandir, we have the current version of all xapps05:37
rodarvusI intended to sync them initially, but found out debian was seriously outdated on this regard05:38
Mithrandirrodarvus: I just did a build of xorg-server with --enable-kdrive and the server seems to work fine for me at least.05:38
rodarvuswhat is the difference of --enable-kdrive and --enable-xephyr05:40
rodarvus(I built it locally too, but didn't tested yet)05:40
Mithrandirxephyr is one of the kdrive servers05:40
rodarvusisn't it the server we want/need?05:41
MithrandirXsdl is another05:41
Mithrandir(Xvesa another, Xfake a third, etc)05:41
Mithrandiryes, if we want to enable any kdrive servers, Xephyr is the one we want.05:41
MithrandirI don't think we'd want any others.05:41
Mithrandirit'd fix 57077 too05:43
MithrandirI can't find the version of kdrive in the server though.. might need to talk to rburton about that.05:44
Mithrandir(whether xorg-server is newer than xserver-kdrive or not)05:44
rodarvusit is inside hw/kdrive I think05:44
rodarvusbut it breaks05:44
rodarvus(build breaks, I mean)05:44
Mithrandirworked for me05:44
Mithrandirdo you have a build failure now?05:44
rodarvusI built entering obj-*/hw/kdrive + make (after debuild with --enable-xephyr)05:45
rodarvusI expected it to build automatically during the .deb build, but it didn't happened05:45
Mithrandirdid for me05:46
Mithrandiroh, do --enable-kdrive05:46
Mithrandirit'll give you a xephyr server05:46
rodarvusoh, nice05:46
Mithrandirwithout, it won't build any of the kdrive stuff, AIUI05:46
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tom_hi chaps, after that xserver-xorg-core update broke my x, I have tried everything suggested on the forum and in #ubuntu but cant get my xserver running05:58
tom_probably due to my having messed up the xserver installation before realising that this was a general ubuntu problem05:59
tom_currently my xserver error log says:  (EE) no devices detected05:59
tom_Fatal server error05:59
tom_no screens found05:59
tom_what should I do?06:00
ubugblaNew bug: #57308 in xorg "Xorg and ATI X600 - RV370/380 (5B62) doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5730806:00
rodarvustom_, it looks like you are still running the broken version of xserver-xorg-core.06:00
tom_rodarvus: I tried  upgrading to 10.4 and downgrade to 10.0 06:01
rodarvustom_, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core:
rodarvusupgrading to 10.4 should fix you problem, indeed06:02
tom_I'll run that again just check06:02
rodarvusit was published to the archive, and most (all?) mirrors should already have it by now06:02
tom_but I think I may have caused another problem by removing xserver-xorg before following the instructions06:04
tom_I tried to reinstall but I think I may have lost some packages06:04
Mithrandirthat shouldn't cause any problems, I'd think.06:04
tom_rodarvus:  is "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core:" a typo?06:05
tom_I thought it was 10.406:05
tom_and that doesnt seem to work06:05
rodarvusit is 10.4. the only reason I asked you to install 10.2 is because I don't know which mirror you are using - your mirror could be outdated and that would let you start X as usual06:06
tom_but doing apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 works06:07
tom_and says is already the newest version installed06:07
tom_rodarvus: I think you missed the "=" ?06:08
tom_when I insert that and try with 10.2 it says that version is not found06:09
rodarvustom_, yes, I did, please add it back :)06:10
tom_rodarvus:  I added it, but 10.2 aint found and 10.4 says I've already got the newest version installed06:11
rodarvuswhat 'dpkg --list xserver-xorg-core' returns for you? (please output only the relevant line)06:12
tom_erm, what is the relevant line?06:14
tom_under version is says 10.406:15
rodarvusso you already got the latest version. if X is not working, its another issue (probably unrelated to 10.3)06:17
tom_rodarvus: the whole line is: xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 X.Org X server -- core server06:17
Mithrandirtom_: you could try doing dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to reconfigure the X server again.06:18
tom_ok, yes, that what I thought, somewhere along the line I created another issue whilst trying to fix this one06:18
tom_Mithrandir: done that a few times already06:18
tom_any idea how to go about this other problem, whatever it is?06:18
tom_+ fixing06:19
tom_what causes the no screens found error normally?06:19
Mithrandircan you put your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log in a pastebin somewhere?06:19
tom_is there a command I can to re-install everything that x needs to function properly06:19
tom_Mithrandir: yes, let me just copy them over to this machine...06:20
tom_Mithrandir: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21410 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21411 :)06:27
Mithrandirtom_: looking at them.  The network here isn't the quickest one around06:28
rodarvustom_, even tough dpkg believes you are running 10.4, it seems you are really running 10.306:28
tom_okay ??06:28
rodarvusis there any chance you --forced it somehow?06:28
tom_I think I may have tried a -f at some point if that is what you mean?06:29
rodarvusdownload http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb06:29
rodarvusinstall it (dpkg --install ...)06:29
Mithrandirrodarvus: any reason why the Xorg.0.log doesn't include the full Ubuntu version number?06:29
rodarvusMithrandir, not really, actually06:29
rodarvusand indeed, it would be really helpful06:29
tom_rodarvus: I've tried that before, but I'll try it again...06:29
tom_same problem persists06:31
tom_rodarvus: as you (?) pointed out, it would appear that I have some other problem, shall I submit a new bug?06:33
tom_or have you got any more ideas of other things to try?06:34
tom_is there a command I can to re-install everything that x needs to function properly?06:34
rodarvusthere is nothing else easily apparent from your Xorg.0.log file06:34
rodarvusplease follow the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration06:34
rodarvusthere  is quite a lot of helpful information on this page06:35
rodarvusand eventually if the informations there doesn't fix your problems, it teaches you on how to prepare a proper bug report06:35
UbugtuNew bug: #57313 in xorg-server "xserver doesn't start on hp compaq nc8000 laptop" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5731306:40
UbugtuNew bug: #57319 in xorg-server ""X -scanpci" fails to find graphics adapter" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5731907:15
tom_thanks rodarvus 07:25
tom_got it in the end07:25
rodarvuswhat was it?07:25
tom_somehow, the right driver wasnt installed for the video card anymore07:26
tom_the video card was a savage07:26
tom_and it turns out there is a package: xserver-xorg-driver-savage07:27
tom_which wasnt installed07:27
Mithrandiryou probably uninstalled it while debugging, then07:29
tom_yeah, somehow07:30
UbugtuNew bug: #57325 in xorg-server "(EE) No devices detected." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5732507:30
Mithrandirbut if it's fixed, that's good. :-)07:30
tom_yeah though it has taken up most of my day07:30
tom_though at least now I have some idea what X is!07:30
Mithrandirwe're _really_ sorry about that.07:31
rodarvusthe last 12 hours were not the best hours of my life, but I'll get over it07:31
tom_sure, well its the first major problem I have had running ubuntu for 18 months07:31
Mithrandirwe've managed to piss off a lot of users and the only thing I can say is "we promise to do better in the future".07:32
tom_sure, I guess its been pretty damn stressful for you guys07:32
tom_well, best of luck with making sure it doesnt happen again :)07:33
Mithrandirthanks. :-)07:33
Mithrandirand again, sorry for fucking it up in the first place.07:34
tom_I dont imagine the work you guys are doing is easy07:34
tom_Mithrandir: everyone makes mistakes from time to time ;)07:34
Mithrandirtom_: yeah, I guess.  About time it was us, then.07:35
MithrandirWe'll get over it07:35
UbugtuNew bug: #57329 in xserver-xorg-video-via "upgrade to latest xorg has stopped my CLE266 from working" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5732908:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #57333 in xserver-xorg-video-via "22-Aug-06 xorg update killed X on my Latitude D810" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5733308:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #57338 in xorg-server (main) "Graphic mode is broken" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5733809:09
UbugtuNew bug: #57339 in xorg-server "Fatal server error: no screens found" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5733909:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #57345 in xorg-server "No devices detected. after update to xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5734509:30
UbugtuNew bug: #57358 in xorg-server "Update breaks xserver (fix = apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5735811:11

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