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UpMarcHi... I'm a beginner in Linux evironment12:01
HellDragonwell while it downloads the things i will go clean the dishes BRB12:01
lixHellDragon: :-D12:01
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lixUpMarc: Welcome! ;)12:01
lupine_85in that case your sound manager is esd. I'm in kde, so can't be as great help... but get into whatever passes for gnome control panel and disable esd12:01
Stormzoekerhi everyone ;)12:01
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mweben_: well I don't think I can help. Personally my life is too short to spend days or weeks just getting a game to run12:02
UpMarcopenning a website with Mozilla, I got the message: Java Not Found or Not Working12:02
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UpMarccan someone help me to fix that?12:02
lupine_85it's possibly monopolising your sound hardware to itself so nothing else can use it12:02
lixUpMarc: Any Website?12:02
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lixUpMarc: Or a scpecific one?12:02
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chris__hi is there a good way to test my joystick? i plugged it in and i get in messages... " input: GreenAsia Inc.    USB Joystick      as /class/input/input5"......."usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5"12:02
lupine_85 try using the ESounD plugin for xmms first, though12:02
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F0LL0W3Rhow can i add new user to an existance home directory like /home/oem ?12:03
CurtmanGreat.. the upgrade to xserver-xorg-core busted my X server.  I downgraded to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb, and everything works great again.12:03
UpMarcI visited others that worked perfectly12:03
mirkashlupine, I'm not sure about monopol, because I cant hear any sound12:03
mweF0LL0W3R: sudo vipw and change the homedir12:03
TheGateKeeperUpMarc: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox12:03
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lupine_85FOLLOW3R: man useradd12:03
tyler_dwhat is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?12:03
lamegoF0LL0W3R, please expect troubles unless you really know what you are doing12:04
mirkashlupine, i tried changing plugins in xmms and always the same error12:04
UpMarcTheGateKeeper: Thanks a lot... will go there12:04
lupine_85mirkash: all the modules are loaded properly so it *should* be working12:04
lixUpMarc: Did you yet install the Java Environment? (It's an other License than the "common" one, that Ubuntu uses)12:04
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lixUpMarc: Or try: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/12:04
lupine_85tbh, sound in linux is still a complete mess12:04
TheGateKeeperUpMarc: yw :-) that wiki has flash and a whole lot more12:04
UpMarclix: I just installed the common ones12:04
mirkashlupine, is there any conf file which may be relevant12:04
Quicksilvaim a linux newb :p12:05
Quicksilvagot xvidtune-1.0.1.tar.bz2 now12:05
lupine_85not really - it's all kernel-level stuff12:05
Quicksilvahow do i ru it?12:05
lupine_85erm, it's installed by default12:05
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Quicksilvaoh12:05
lupine_85in /usr/bin/X1!12:05
ocjeunessesalut12:05
lupine_85X11 rather12:05
lupine_85sorry, should have said12:05
ocjeunessebonjour12:05
lamegoQuicksilva, there is xvtune on the repositories12:05
lamegoxvidtune i mean12:05
mwexvidtune is in /usr/bin here12:06
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marguihi12:06
lupine_85mirkash: actually, one thing it could be is the mixer... try running alsamixer and seeing if anything is muted or similar12:06
livingdaylighthow do i remove a directory?12:06
viatorthe qemu howto is outdated12:06
tyler_dwhat is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?12:06
lamegolivingdaylight, rmdir dir12:06
lamegoif its not empty12:06
lixlivingdaylight: in the command line?12:06
lamegorm -rf dir12:06
looktj!wike12:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
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viatoryou cant get the kqemu  using it12:06
looktj!wiki12:06
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation12:06
lamegotake care, there is no trash bin for "rm"12:06
marguican't configure WPA wireless on my Ubuntu... I'd apreciate your help12:06
HellDragonbacl12:06
livingdaylightlix: is there another way?12:06
HellDragonlix: i get errors12:06
livingdaylightlamego: thx12:06
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fdoving112:07
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mirkashalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device12:07
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HellDragon /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb12:07
HellDragonE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:07
HellDragoni get that12:07
HellDragon:(12:07
HellDragoni dont want it to install rageircd !!!12:07
Ychwhats a good program to split a large mp3 file using .cues?12:07
lixlivingdaylight: you can remove it in the command line with "rmdir directoryname" or in the window manager (using the delete key or right mouse click)12:07
HellDragonits already installed !12:07
Adam_Ghello all. Gdesklets is on top of all my applications... how do I make it "behave?" :P12:07
viatoranyone know how to do that?12:07
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:07
lamegoHellDragon, try: sudo apt-get upgrade -f12:07
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HellDragonlamego: already tried12:07
HellDragonlamego: i get the same error12:07
lixHellDragon: sudo apt-get remove --purge rageircd12:08
HellDragonlix: same error12:08
HellDragoni tried everything12:08
lamegoHeartsbane, apt-get remove --force-yes ?12:08
HellDragonit always try to install rageircd for whatever i do12:08
HellDragon:(12:08
lamegoHellDragon, thats is because you have tried it, an unsucessful attempt12:08
YeTr2I don't suppose there is a list of other repositories for things that arn't already in uni & multi for ubuntu12:08
lixHellDragon: Can you paste the error somewhere pls?12:08
marguiI can't configure my wi-fi connection with WPA encryption... any idea?12:09
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HellDragonim trying something 2mins12:09
lamegoYeTr2, there are plenty on the net, but you should use them with care, the wrong list can break your system very easly12:09
lupine_85mirkash: either the alsa drivers aren't working properly, or the card isn't called default anymore12:09
lupine_851 second12:09
mwe!wpa > margui12:09
marguiWEP is working fine, so my card works well12:09
livingdaylightlix: sorry, i see no delet key either in nautilus or when i right-click12:09
Quicksilvathanks alot lupine_85 & lamego12:09
Quicksilvagot it working :D12:09
lixHellDragon: using the "-f" (force option) it should work12:09
HellDragonnop12:09
mwemargui: see /msg from ubotu12:09
lupine_85sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base perhaps?12:09
lamegoYeTr2, you are better to compile your own or ask to someone from the ubuntu community to get you the deb packages12:09
YeTr2lamego: I already understand the implications of using software not maintained by the distro, Im' asking if there is a list some where12:09
lixlivingdaylight: and "move to Trash-bin" ?12:10
lamegoYeTr2, ok, you understood it until the point that it can completely break your entire system ?12:10
mirkashlupine, i got only one card, ac97 onboard12:10
lupine_85livingdaylight: shift+f2 for delete, IIRC12:10
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:10
lupine_85erm, shift+del, rather12:10
lupine_85shift+f2 is ?rename?12:10
marguimwe: I can't find the answer on the WifiDocs...12:10
YeTr2lamego: which is why I do backups12:10
tyler_dhow do I install a personal security manager?12:11
viator!kqemu12:11
ubotukqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8612:11
m4rkwtf is kqemu12:11
ben_anyone know?12:11
lamegoYeTr2, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:11
m4rkben42: know what?12:11
mwemargui: did you read the wpa howto there?12:11
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ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:12
lupine_85mirkash: that's what's strange12:12
marguimwe: yep12:12
looktj!doc12:12
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com12:12
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mwemargui: and where did it not work?12:12
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looktj!dapper doc12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper doc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
livingdaylightok, i got two users added to my system, how can i remove 'em?12:12
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:12
looktjgrr12:12
lupine_85userdel12:12
HellDragon:(12:13
lamegolivingdaylight, man useradd12:13
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FrostbiteSoon, I am going to have to hand a 4 server cluster over to somebody with very little Linux experience.  Two servers will be LVS directors running MySQL and Exim/DBMail and another two servers running Lighttpd/nsd.  Everything will be run in daemontools so that they auto-restart if they crash and everything will be configured and running.  I'm installing a few gui's to simplify it for them why they learn.  Mail will be administered through a we12:13
Frostbiteb gui, DBMail Administrator, which seems pretty comprehensive.  Can anyone recommend a GUI for controlling any other aspects of the server?  As long as they don't change anything, can you see any problem with them just apt-getting now and again?  Everything's redundant, which should give me time to get back and fix it.12:13
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looktjwhere can i find commands for teraminals12:13
m4rklivingdaylight: why do you want to remove users? what did they do wrong?? :(12:13
lamegolivingdaylight, read on the bottom, it tells you about useradd12:13
acojlohi12:13
looktj!command12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
HellDragonlix: i still get errors12:13
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:13
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livingdaylightm4rk: i create and i destroy12:13
livingdaylight :)12:14
marguimwe: wpa_supplicant doesn't work12:14
acojloI have problem with suspend: when I do suspend which works, but resume does not, after another boot my /etc/default/acpi-support file have changed content. Sometimes it's copied content of ld.so.conf or hosts file12:14
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lixHellDragon: can you paste them somewhere?12:14
mwemargui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?12:14
HellDragonlix: ok12:14
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lassegswhats up guys12:14
iarwain_ben-adarhi =)12:15
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:15
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marguimwe: and I don't know how to use Network Manager12:15
UpMarcTheGateKeeper:got on installation the following msg:  sun-java5-jre not found :-(12:15
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HellDragonlix: http://pastebin.ca/14317012:15
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mwemargui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?12:16
lamegoUpMarc, you need to enable the universe/multiverse repositories12:16
m4rkdon't delete users or they will hunt you down and do nasty things to you12:16
UpMarcIamego: how do I do that?12:16
marguimew: first of all, I installed Network manager12:16
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HellDragoni got the rage :(12:16
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lamegoUpMarc, help.ubuntu.com12:16
lamegoplease read the deskto guide12:16
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mwemargui: if you install network manager in case it isn't already, logging out of gnome and back in should give you a status icon to click12:17
UpMarcI'm really new to all this (2 weeks)12:17
looktj!multimedia12:17
ubotuFor multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:17
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:17
lupine_85 mirkash: try running alsamixer -c 012:17
lamegoUpMarc, you should read the guide on the 1st day ;)12:17
lupine_85and if that doesn't work, -c 112:17
derrickhIs there an easy way to create an image (ISO) from a DVD?12:17
kingwolfWhen Firestarter displays destination of GAIM interactions, is it listing the messenger service IP or the end-user IP?12:17
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lamegoben_, no we don't12:17
lupine_85and so on up to -c 712:17
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lixHellDragon: Gat an error when you tyr "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb" ?12:17
SuperdudeHEY GUYS12:17
UpMarcIamego: I tryed... but it's too much information to keep....12:17
marguimwe: yep, I did that, but it can't find my network12:17
HellDragonlix: yes12:17
HellDragonlix: same error12:17
lupine_85derrich: dd if=/dev/hdXX of=/path/to/wanted/iso12:18
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lamegoUpMarc, just use the "Search" button it is really helpfull :)12:18
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derrickhlupine: thanks12:18
lupine_85adding bs=4M will probably give you faster performance12:18
lixHellDragon: there is an error unpacking the file12:18
kingwolfOr: How do I run trace on a GAIM/yahoo user?12:18
marguimwe: "can't find any network device"12:18
HellDragonlix: weird12:18
mirkashmirkash@ubuntu:/$ alsamixer -c 012:18
mirkashwrong -c argument '0'12:18
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kingwolf!trace12:18
HellDragonlix: but rage is already installed i dont know why it wants to reinstall it all time12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
mwemargui: It wont show if you have already tried to configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces12:18
lupine_85any of the others (1 2 3 ... 7) work?12:18
Mic__haelimporting from my camera works fine; but what mount point does it use??12:19
lupine_85that error is what it gives when the specified card doesn't exist12:19
lixHellDragon: but "sudo apt-get remove --purge -f rageircd" should do it12:19
HellDragonnop12:19
lupine_85(in it's eyes)12:19
mwemargui: and if you use the network manager you will only be able to connect from gnome12:19
marguimwe: so, first of all, I must delete that file?12:19
UpMarcIamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"12:19
mwemargui: no12:19
HellDragoni get:  what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid12:19
HellDragonAbandon12:19
HellDragonthen it fails12:19
UpMarcmore than12:19
lixHellDragon: Did you also try to fix it by using synaptic? ;)12:19
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kingwolfAnd: Why does gaim not work for "block user".12:19
HellDragonlix: yes12:19
mwemargui: just the entry for you card. DON'T delete the entire file12:19
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lixHellDragon: dsol!12:20
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UpMarcIamego: that makes it very difficult for a beginner12:20
HellDragon:(12:20
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lamegoUpMarc, it is hard for a beginner to use a "Search Box" ?12:20
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lamegoUpMarc, dont think so :)12:20
UpMarcIamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"12:21
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marguimargui: ok, and then... where I put my connections values: IP, gateway...?12:21
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Nkumik1Hey can someone help me out... I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 cd in the mail and I try to install it... When I am resizing my partitions it fails, is there someway to get around this?  The partition I am trying to resize is a windows ntfs partition... thanks!12:21
lamegoUpMarc, help.ubuntu.com, which part of the "Add/Remove" applications can't you read on the index ?12:21
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mwemargui: you're not gonna use dhcp?12:22
lupine_85 mirkash: also what's the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' ?12:22
lassegsNkumik1 you know you will end up deleting the content of the ntfs disk?12:22
kingwolfAnyone know anything about fingering a person who is on gaim/yahoo messenger?  My room-mate has been receiving threats from a person on gaim and gaim doesn't seem to support "block user".12:22
lixHellDragon: and using the "--reinstall" option?12:22
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Quicksilvasimple question.  how do i run stuff from .tar.gz format12:22
Nkumik1just resizing it will delete the contents of it?12:22
lamegoUpMarc, and the "Extra Repositories", on the index, what is your problem to read it ?12:22
mirkashlupine , nosoundcards12:22
misieqer... right, why am i here? ah.. i was wondering... if it's possible to make some sort of switch that would be controlled by a regular linux box that could operate light in my room, turn the cofee express on etc. any ideas suggestion where to look for such thingy?12:22
UpMarcIamego: This was the first place I looked for.... and I didn't find it... :-(12:22
HellDragonlix: doesnt work12:22
mwemargui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work12:22
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:22
HellDragonlix: i need to go now ill be back in like 1 hour12:22
ZonoidMy laptop's external cd-rom drive is conflicing with Ubuntu booting from the live cd. Is there anything I can do about this?12:22
lupine_85ok; how about we uninstall and reinstall alsa?12:23
viator!vmware12:23
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare12:23
marguimwe: no, I use static IP12:23
mwemargui: that way you'll be able to get online even if gnome breaks12:23
profoX`xserver-xorg kills X12:23
profoX`newest updat12:23
profoX`to xserver-xorg-core12:23
lassegsNkumik1 afraid so. you have to use partition magic to resize it without loosing data. thats windows software btw12:23
mwemargui: I think you can add that to the network manager but I'm not sure12:23
UpMarcIamego: I don't even know where these places are... I have done very few yet in this new environment12:23
mwemargui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work, really12:23
Nkumik1alright well thank you I will get off of the ubuntu live and go resize through windows thanks!12:23
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UpMarcbecause everything is very difficult to me12:23
lassegsNkumik1 even then you should back up your important data cause it might screw up the partition (even though its pretty safe)12:23
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UpMarcI don't know where things are :-(12:24
marguimwe: I see...12:24
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lassegsdamn he left to early12:24
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:24
ZonoidUbuntu cannot mount the CD from my external cd-rom drive on my laptop. Is there anything I can do to fix this?12:24
mwemargui: think about it. if gnome fails to start you can't get online if you use nwm12:24
viatoranyone know how to make a vmware image using qemu?12:24
ZonoidBrandonThe: It looks like you're having my same problem!12:24
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AdemanprofoX`: what? what do you mean it kills x?12:24
lassegsZonoid: hi, you fixed the hdc issue?12:24
lamegoUpMarc, sorry, if reading is difficul to you, even a 15 lines text, i can't help you12:24
erUSULmargui: the version network manager in dapper can not work with static ip. is known bug12:24
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ZonoidLassegs: Not exactly. It looks like it had to do with my CD-rom drive the whole time.12:25
UpMarcok... ty, anyway :-(12:25
ZonoidFor awhile I thought I fixed it.12:25
lamegoUpMarc, specially with words like "Add/Rremove application"12:25
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mwemargui: of if you decide to try a different wm it wont work anymore either12:25
profoX`Ademan: last update to xserver-xorg-core makes X unstartable12:25
lassegsZonoid: you only have the external cd drive?12:25
UpMarcIamego: I went there... but couldn't find it :-(12:25
ZonoidLassegs: Yes. My laptop doesn't have one built in.12:25
marguimwe: on the other hand, I don't know how to set up my network card using nwm...12:25
profoX`Ademan: 3 friends have the same problem12:25
jvaihey all.. sorry for bein late... for class12:25
Jenocinhey people, is it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to 6 without a reinstall?12:25
jvailol12:25
AdemanprofoX`: wow, how did it get released?...12:25
AdemanJenocin: yep12:25
lamegoJenocin, it is, but I do advise you to do a reinstall instead12:26
lassegsZonoid: gees man, that sounds like a icky problem.. good luck with that12:26
eggzeckI didn't even know that if you hover over a "*.mp3" or a "*.ogg" and stay for about 1-3 seconds, it automatically plays a preview12:26
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profoX`Ademan: I have no idea. it should really get tested better before they release something broken like this ._. i can image alot of people not knowing what to do when their X doesn't want to load up anymore after their last update12:26
blockydoes anyone know what this line in my Xorg log means12:26
AdemanJenocin: I believe you just have to change your sources.list from breezy to dapper i believe12:26
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marguimwe: ok, so it's better to use wpa_supplicant directly...12:26
ZonoidLassegs: Do you know if it's possible to download the distro on the computer and install it on that same system?12:26
blocky(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  Failed to remmap MC AGP aperture base!12:26
AdemanprofoX`: ctrl+alt+f1  :-)12:26
JenocinAdeman: how likely is it that will crash the system :-P12:26
TubaSoldierXORG PROBLEMS? DOWNGRADE https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:27
mwemargui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo explains it well. ignore the part about network manager12:27
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lassegszonoid: i dont. ask the channel12:27
AdemanJenocin: tons of people do it, but I dont know exactly how, ask someone who knows better than me :-)12:27
ZonoidIs it possible to download Ubuntu and install it on the same system you downloaded it to?12:27
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ZambeziI always forget, how can I change the rights too one specific folder without harming the system. The folder is on an extra harddrive, so it's not on the system harddrive.12:27
lamegoZonoid, if you save it to a CD, yes12:27
JenocinAdeman: hehe ok, I'll make sure I have a bare metal first12:27
AdemanZonoid: of course, but you have to burn it to a cd of course12:27
profoX`Ademan: sure, but alot of people will be clueless about what to do (right now, not alot of people would know how to downgrade the package again, and if the package gets fixed so you can update again; alot of people dont know how to do that in the terminal)12:28
marguimwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?12:28
mweZonoid: you mean from within another distro?12:28
mirkashlupin, how tu unuinstall12:28
ZonoidLamego and Ademan: The problem is that my CD-rom drive on my laptop is external, so it won't mount the CD.12:28
mweZonoid: it is. why not run the installer though?12:28
JenocinZonoid: u tryng to boot the cd?12:28
AdemanZonoid: you can't boot from a usb device? my BIOS supports that...12:28
mweZonoid: oh12:28
lamegoZonoid, so no, you can't install it12:28
ZonoidJenocin: Yes.12:28
lupine_85removing the alsa-base module should do it12:28
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lupine_85make sure that it's a purge12:28
JenocinZonoid: u have a floppy12:28
ZonoidJenocin: That drive is external as well.12:28
lupine_85e.g. apt-get remove --purge alsa-base12:28
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AdemanZonoid: so your computer is just a bunch of USB ports? :-p12:29
lassegsAdeman: its a laptop from 98 so i dont think Zonoids laptop can boot from usb12:29
JenocinZonoid: can u boot from the floppy though? I have a boot disk that will boot the usb cddrive12:29
ZonoidAdeman: Basically :-)12:29
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bandaidI want to dual boot ubuntu, I already partitioned space on my other hard drive and installed it but don't know how to make it boot12:29
JenocinZonoid: or possible pxe on your net card?12:29
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ZonoidJenocin: It seems to at least boot the CD, but it hangs at "Mounting" for awhile, and the farthest it gets if you wait forever is the splash screen.12:29
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AdemanZonoid: well there's got to be a way, but I wouldn't know, i'm not a boot master12:29
lassegsbandaid: did you install grub or some bootloader?12:29
marguimwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?12:30
JenocinZonoid: did u try the safe mode?12:30
bandaidhow do I do that12:30
AdemanZonoid: check that the ISO has the right checksum12:30
lupine_85then just reinstall alsa-base12:30
ZonoidAdeman: How do you check that?12:30
mwemargui: you don't do that with wpa_supplicant. you do it in the interfaces file12:30
profoX`Ademan: if the problem is as big as it sounds (if the problem applies to alot of / all people) then it must be bad testing by the devs. And it should never have gotten into the (stable) dapper-updates branch. If this problem really is a maintainer's fault, than I think they should be more careful about what they release.12:30
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mwemargui: wpa_supplicant only takes care of WPA12:30
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AdemanZonoid: under windows? i don't know google for md5 checksum12:30
achandrabanaid: typically the bootloader grub just works out of the box...is it popping up with the bootloader at all?12:30
lamegoZonoid, md5sum.exe12:31
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ZonoidLamego: Thanks.12:31
lassegsbandaid: its been a while since i installed ubuntu but i think it asks you if you wants to install a bootloader (grub)12:31
achandrabanaid: giving you options?12:31
AdemanZonoid: and then compare what it outputs to what it says on the download page12:31
AdemanZonoid: and you burned it as an iso not a file to the cd right?12:31
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ZonoidAdeman: Yes. It boots on another computer.12:31
profoX`Ademan: Imagine all the new to linux people that are clueless now. They'll think linux/ubuntu is bad, because it will crash their X if they upgraded in the last hour (problem already reported on launchpad now)12:31
Seven_Six_TwoHow do I set a script to automatically execute when kde is started, when the script requires a sudo? it's for a linksys wifi card on my mom's laptop and I need to make it easy12:31
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ZonoidAdeman: I think the checksum is fine, because it boots on another computer.12:32
TubaSoldierIt is already reported https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:32
AdemanZonoid: probably12:32
lamegoprofoX`, could you redirect your complains to the proper mailing list ?12:32
profoX`Seven_Six_Two: put kdesu in front of the script12:32
AdemanprofoX`: geeze, how did they release it? i can't believe that12:32
TubaSoldierAdeman: it is already reported with instructions on how to downgrade12:32
profoX`lamego: i'm just discussing it, and if you don't like that, just /ignore12:33
Seven_Six_TwoprofoX`: will she have to run that from console every time she boots?12:33
DarkMageZprofoX`, yo, u mensioned X dying from the latest update, how do i downgrade a package from the terminal?12:33
ZonoidAlso, does anyone know a way of loading Ubuntu on an iMac G5? It sounds like many people have had trouble with this.12:33
AdemanTubaSoldier: Yeah but the packages in the repositories ALWAYS seem to be a few versions behind, and here we finally catch up with development a little, and BOOM12:33
bandaiddoes grub come with ubuntu?12:33
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Ademanbandaid: of course12:33
lassegsbandaid ;)12:33
tritiumZonoid: it's still problematic.  Wait for edgy before trying it.12:33
bandaidso I can just do grub in terminal?12:33
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lamegoprofoX`, no really, this is a support related channel, and you are not supporting neither asking for support, so you are disturbing the channel, the same way the maintainter disturbed you with the upgrade12:33
FantasticFooi can't seem to get compiz working for the life of me... anyone know a good tutorial for fglrx users?12:33
Ademan"do grub" ? install grub?12:33
lupine_85ademan/profox`: is that in edgy or dapper?12:33
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FantasticFooi've tried all the tuts12:34
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ZonoidTritium: I heard you were supposed to disable the sound. Do you know how I could do that?12:34
profoX`lupine_85: dapper12:34
egerwow there is a lot of people here12:34
lupine_85eee gad12:34
tritiumZonoid: nope12:34
Ademanlupine_85: I haven't a clue, I didnt realize there even was an X upgrade :-p12:34
bandaidcan i type grub in the terminal install it that way while using the love CD?12:34
lupine_85yeah, me neither :F12:34
bandaidLive***12:34
profoX`DarkMageZ: I think you could do: cd /var/cache/apt/archives; sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core-OLDER_VERSION.deb12:34
profoX`something like that12:34
lupine_85still a bit unnerving, mind12:34
DarkMageZprofoX`, i don't have an older version in the archives :(12:34
egerim playing with ubuntu for the first time and i was just curious what the alternative iso is for?12:34
tritiumeger: older text mode install12:35
Ademaneger: its the "ugly" version of the installer, use the "desktop" one12:35
Seven_Six_TwoI just want the script to run, but I don't want her to have to type in the password every time, or go to console12:35
egertritium, thanks!12:35
tritiumeger: it's still useful in certain situations12:35
looktj!java12:35
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:35
Ademaneger: the "Desktop" one will let you try ubuntu out from the cd12:35
egertritium, i could see that12:35
marguimwe: but you told me that I must delete the entry for my card in /etc/network/interfaces... right? so, how can I set up my network?12:35
lamegoeger, it just the same installatiion but using a text mode installer12:35
egerthough i am really impressed with the graphical installer12:35
FurryNemesiseger, non grahics install, sometimes works better, and also allows more customisation12:35
mirkashlupine, i did reinstall and same problem12:35
egerfirst time ive seen this nice of installer for linux distro12:35
profoX`lamego: it's support if I warn people not to upgrade xserver-xorg-core from dapper-updates yet. It's sound advice.12:35
lamegoeger, on some older systems the graphical installer can't be run12:35
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lassegsDarkMageZ: cant you just wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and type dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb ?12:36
mwemargui: no12:36
DarkMageZlassegs, ty :)12:36
egerfirst time ive had my question answered in less than 30 seconds by 4 people in IRC too!!!12:36
mwemargui: that is if you want to use network manager12:36
tichi downloaded a rar that is password protected --does anyone know how i could open it without a password?12:36
mirkashlupine, can I somehow debug why isnt created device12:36
marguimwe: I see12:36
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tritiumeger: there are a few extra features only available on the alternate install image.  They're described on the download page12:36
AdemanI think the desktop install should let you pick exactly which packages are installed as part of the base system or something, maybe allow an "install profile" that defines exactly what to be installed (and is modifyable) so that installation to large networks is easier12:36
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lupine_85my first GUI installer was Corel Linux12:36
lupine_85absolute nightmare12:37
egerheh12:37
Seven_Six_Twoif I sudo chown root.root the script and stick it somewhere it shouldn't require sudo, but where to put it?12:37
marguimwe: ok, thanks a lot...12:37
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egerim used to the redhat installer12:37
lupine_85IMO, the systems haven't improved much since12:37
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egerwhich isnt all that bad...but i dont care for it too much12:37
lupine_85mirkash: I really don't know what to suggest then :(12:37
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lassegsDarkMageZ: did it do the trick?12:37
lupine_85maybe try posting on the forums?12:37
lupine_85I don't know a great deal about alsa12:37
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mirkashlupine, ok thanks, if I find solution i'll let you know :)12:38
lupine_85AFAICT, it's using the OSS system instead, and it really shouldn't be... but I don't know how to change that12:38
lupine_85and I could be completely wrong ;)12:38
lupine_85good luck12:38
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bobovskiHi all. I had a problem earlier that now seems to be system wide. Before, I'd double click on a .tex file and get the "run in terminal" display" etc window. now it happens with all my playlist files as well. have my folder permissions gotten screwed up somehow?12:38
maswanAdeman: Well, that is possible, look at preseeding or some other automation of installations, either by network support or custom cds12:38
Seven_Six_Twotich: I've never found a rar password cracker for linux, but often the password is part of the file name12:38
lupine_85john or brutus might do it?12:39
bobovskiactually, all my home folders seem to be set at 75512:39
lupine_85(off the top of my head)12:39
bobovskihow can I set them all back to the defaults?12:39
BHSPitMonkeyhey12:39
bobovski(and the real question is "are the file permissions causing my problem")12:39
BHSPitMonkeyCan I move my entire ubuntu filesystem to another (larger) partition/drive? or is fstab going to end up freaking out on me?12:39
david_My apt is broken.  It can find references to some packages (rar and notlame come to mind), but it cannot download those packages.  I am 100% sure it is not an issue with sources.lst, because I just copied the default contents in an attempt to fix it.  I tried reinstalling both the kernel image and apt itself and neither worked.  I added the quinn compiz repository at the end, and I uncommented every ubuntu repository..  Does anyone know the12:40
david_issue?12:40
marguiBabylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...12:40
BHSPitMonkeydavid_, apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic?12:40
david_apt-get12:40
lupine_85daft question first: have you run apt-get update since your change to sources.list ?12:40
mweBHSPitMonkey: if you do it right and update fstab it should work12:40
BHSPitMonkeynot sure] 12:40
lamegodavid_, you should keep *ONLY* the Ubuntu repositories12:40
david_lupine, yup12:40
lassegswell im off. see you in the morning guys12:41
BHSPitMonkeymwe, how would I need to update fstab?12:41
lamegothen check if apt-get update runs successfully12:41
m4rkis there any way to make ubuntu speak to me12:41
m4rkin a sassy voice12:41
david_lupine, it runs fine12:41
jvailol...smh12:41
mweBHSPitMonkey: well is your ubuntu on one partition?12:41
lamegom4rk, you are so funny (not)12:41
david_lamego, how could I get compiz/aiglx then?12:42
marguiBabylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...12:42
lupine_85run apt-cache gencaches and retry?12:42
BHSPitMonkeymwe, yeah, my ubuntu installation is on a partition, and I'm replacing that drive with a larger one.,12:42
lamegodavid_, first you should make sure your repositories, then if you use compiz/aigglz you should know that they are beta an can break your system12:42
lamegoi mean, your default repositories are ok12:42
mweBHSPitMonkey: basically just change fstab to reflect the new device name12:42
looktj!install12:42
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:42
mweBHSPitMonkey: and you don't wanna copy /proc /dev and /sys over12:43
BHSPitMonkeymwe, I'm not going to know what to put :/12:43
lamegomargui, install babytrans12:43
david_lupine_85, gencaches isn't a valid option on mine?12:43
marguilamego: is babytrans a free software?12:43
BHSPitMonkeymwe, if it's going to cause issues, I could always clean install on the new drive I guess.12:43
lupine_85sudo apt-cache gencaches12:43
lupine_85works over here12:43
david_lamego, it worked fine for a while.  When I was trying to compile the proset wireless drivers with a patch was when it broke, i think12:43
mweBHSPitMonkey: first make sure you copy everthing correctly, preserving permissions12:43
m4rkhas it got a text to speech synthesiser?12:44
lamegodavid_, try the apt-get update12:44
mweBHSPitMonkey: then take note of the device name of the new drive and change fstab to reflect it12:44
lupine_85($mwe-comment += "use cp -a")12:44
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david_I just ran gencaches and then update, then upgrade, then I tried to install "rar" again.  It did not work.  The error message was:12:45
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david_Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:45
david_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:45
david_is only available from another source12:45
david_E: Package rar has no installation candidate12:45
BHSPitMonkeymwe, would there be any way to make it just detect/generate a new fstab?12:45
mwedavid_: did you enable universe and multiverse?12:45
Ademananyone know what .bashrc is?12:45
lupine_85the ubuntu-provided rar is unrar-free, isn't it?12:46
Ademanis it a login script? or what?12:46
mweBHSPitMonkey: no.12:46
lupine_85script that is run on login12:46
BHSPitMonkeyk12:46
david_mwe, yes12:46
mweBHSPitMonkey: don't you know the device name for the new drive?12:46
Ademanlupine_85: and its per user correct?12:46
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BHSPitMonkeywell, thanks, I'll give it a try.12:46
lupine_85~/.bashrc is per-user, yes :)12:46
BHSPitMonkeymwe, I think I might be able to handle it.12:46
kupesoftMy AMD64 X.ORG update caused my ubuntu to not load x, saying "No Screens Found"12:46
lupine_85rar is not part of any ubuntu repositories12:47
kupesoftNow ubuntu is broken...12:47
kupesofthow to fix?12:47
mwe!info rar12:47
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)12:47
BHSPitMonkeyshutting down now. thanks.12:47
lupine_85at least, it doesn't show up on mine12:47
lupine_85strange. it's not here12:47
david_lupine_85, did you get the same error as I did?12:47
mwedavid_: it's in multiverse. you didn't enable multiverse correctly or didn't update12:47
kupesoftI've got a critical ubuntu problem.  I apt-get upgrade'd X.ORG just now on AMD64 and now ubuntu won't load X.ORG or any graphical interface saying "No Screens Found"12:47
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marguilamego: and where could I find the dictionaries for BabyTrans?12:48
david_mwe, I uncommented multiverse in sources.list and I ran apt-get update.  I am sure of this.12:48
kitchekupesoft: your probably missing something in your xorg.conf12:48
lamegomargui, good question, i dont use it, just saw some tip about it :|12:48
dravasWhat are the best plugins for Mozilla Firefox?12:48
mwekupesoft: I think you need to downgrade for now12:48
kupesoftkitche: How can I fix this?12:48
dravasfor videa12:48
dravaso12:48
lupine_85no , it was discussed just a second ago12:48
dravasand sound12:48
kupesoftmwe: How can I downgrade?12:48
lupine_85the update is a borker12:48
mwekupesoft: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:48
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david_lupine_85, if my apt-get is shot, what do you think I should do?12:49
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kupesoftmwe: thanks, I'll try (=12:49
DarkMageZlassegs, it's rebooting now12:49
david_I have been just manually downloading and installing .debs, and I archive them to remember what I installed12:49
dravasWhat are the best Mozilla Media Plugins12:49
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david_This just seems like a bad way to do things12:49
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lupine_85aptitude -f will try to fix stuff for you12:51
kuun-lannhello12:51
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kuun-lanni just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?12:51
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dodgyvilleHello12:52
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dodgyvilleHow do I stop x so I can install NVIDIA drivers?12:52
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david_lupine_85, that did not work12:53
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lupine_85kuun-lan: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 (scroll to the bottom)12:53
SocratesYeah12:53
lupine_85hmm. surely an easier fix for the xorg thing would be "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1"12:53
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SocratesSo, what12:53
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GStubbs43Hey, I'm trying to install audacious and when I do ./configure, it says configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango What packages do I need to install?12:53
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Wolvezhi. someone knows how I can do virtualhost with virtualhost with user and groups12:53
kuun-lanni just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?12:53
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kuun-lannp12:53
lupine_85^ :kuun-lan: ^12:53
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floppyearshi12:54
lamegoGStubbs43, apt-cache search pango dev12:54
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lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:54
dodgyvilleGStubbs43: I find apt-cache search pango might help12:54
lupine_85can anyone put it into the topic?12:54
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floppyearsdoes anybody here do inline skating ? I have some questions about that12:54
SocratesHey, there12:54
lupine_85david_: not sure then. maybe try the forum?12:54
SocratesWell, pardon me sir12:54
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snoopdoes anybody know how to print photos with ubuntu?12:54
lupine_85or uninstall all the packages you've installed and see if that helps ;)12:54
DarkMageZlassegs, yup, it's up and running now, thanks12:54
GStubbs43Thanks12:55
lupine_85snoop: the gimp works well for photo printing12:55
david_lupine_85, sure, thanks for your help12:55
snoopthe sizes are always off, 4x6 is taking up less than 25% of the 4x6 photo paper12:55
lupine_85(as long as you've got a decent printer driver)12:55
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kuun-lannthx lupine i watch this link12:55
SocratesHey gimps12:55
snooplupine_85: i am using gimp, but still no luck12:55
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lupine_85hmm. are you specifying the image size using pixels or inches/cm ?12:55
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snooplupine_85:inches\12:56
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lupine_85another alternative would be inkscape (which explicitly sets the paper size)12:56
kupesoftmwe: Worked!12:56
no0tickopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?12:56
kupesoftmwe: Thank you sooooo much12:56
sethksnoop, I've noticed that, unless I crop in Gimp, I get a tiny size12:56
mwekupesoft: yw12:56
sethksnoop, but if I crop, which logically ought to make things smaller, I get the expected size12:56
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kuun-lannits working lupine :D12:56
sethksnoop, I'm using jpeg images from a digital camera, typically12:56
kuun-lannthank you very much for your hjekp :)12:56
lupine_85np :)12:57
snoopsethk: me too but printing them was way easier on windows12:57
Quicksilvaim trying to install ntfsprogs and it gives me this error.... error: dependency is not satisfiable: libc612:57
Quicksilvaanyone know what that is :S12:57
sethksnoop, I just sftp the files over to a windows box and print them from there12:57
lupine_85cheater ;)12:58
sethksnoop, there is a driver for my photo printer for linux, but I've not taken the time, yet, to make it work.12:58
kupesoftmwe: How can I mark the package to not be upgraded...?12:58
sethksnoop, and even if I do, I'll get only a subset of the features I need.12:58
mweQuicksilva: how did you try to install it?12:58
QuicksilvaI just want to use my storage drive which is in ntfs format12:58
looktjwhat is the url to install commands?12:58
snoopseth: i am going to try cropping and see what happens12:58
sethksnoop, ok, let me know.12:58
mwekupesoft: if you use synaptic, hold back or something. I'm not too familiar with it12:58
unwakataHow do I speed up the Synaptic Package Manager? It keeps failing the downloads...12:59
Quicksilvamwe:  i downloaded ntfsprogs_1.13.1-3_i38612:59
kupesoftI use apt-get of course12:59
Quicksilva.deb12:59
kupesoftmew: I use apt-get12:59
mweQuicksilva: don't do that12:59
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kupesoft*mwe: I use apt-get12:59
mweQuicksilva: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs instead12:59
tichhow would i open a rar that is password protected if i don't have the password?12:59
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lupine_85you'd bruteforce it12:59
sethkunwakata, you can't exactly "speed it up".  what you need to look at is why you are experiencing a problem that (at least most) other people aren't seeing.12:59
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looktjkupesoft: use aptitude12:59
mwekupesoft: I don't think apt-get knows how to hold back a package12:59
lupine_85http://www.digg.com/security/RAR_Password_Cracker_FREE under wine?01:00
lupine_85mwe: it doesn't01:00
mwekupesoft: I think aptitude does though01:00
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kupesoftmwe: Oh well,01:00
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looktj!aptitude > kupesoft01:00
looktj!mplayer01:00
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer01:00
lupine_85but you can tell it to install specific versions with the apt-get install <package>=<version> format01:00
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.01:00
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Quicksilva:O01:00
tichlupine_85, how do i "bruteforce it"?01:00
Quicksilvacan you do that for any apps mwe?01:01
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greyscale'sup01:01
Quicksilvaim using linux for the first time today01:01
unwakataWell the downloads keep timing out and then I have to restart the Synaptic Package Manager. Why doesn't it retry automatically and download with multiple connections...?01:01
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greyscaleI've just had XSERVER fail.01:01
greyscaleanyone wanna help01:01
greyscale?01:01
ardchoilleWhoa! rute is in the repos :)01:01
ardchoilleDidn't know that01:01
Thaurardchoille, rute ?01:01
mweQuicksilva: well most things you can apt-get01:01
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ardchoilleThaur: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz01:01
mweQuicksilva: installing random .debs is a bad idea01:02
SocratesQuicksilva01:02
Quicksilvaye01:02
Thaurardchoille, chhers01:02
greyscalehelloooooo... Critical XSERVER failiure >>01:02
tjsis it possible to get a cut down image that will bootstrap the dapper install from a usb keyring?01:02
greyscaletjs - someone did that.01:02
greyscaleSee the forums01:02
KolaNorsuHello, can someone help me? ='( I just updatet the newest X.org-server-core with Update-Manager, and when i reset my X for the newest X.org-server-core, my X won't start, I also installed the newest nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common too, and in xorg.conf there's Section "nvidia", but it doesn't work, yhyhyh ='( help me ='(01:02
tjsgreyscale, ty, I have a tiny embedded device that I want to get dapper onto and it has no CD01:02
greyscalewhat is it01:03
greyscale?01:03
mwetjs: I did that. used the netinstall image01:03
greyscaleAnd if so, try something smaller >>01:03
tjsah01:03
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burnhamdis there a better interface for grub or should i use lilo etc... to get a bootcamp like boot screen01:03
mwetjs: oh01:03
mwetjs: I don01:03
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Flanneltjs: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation01:03
tjsIm not sure of the brand, its a small SBC, p2 equiv01:03
lupine_85 tjs - debootstrap for you too :)01:03
tjs:)01:03
lupine_85is it going on a CF card/01:03
mwetjs: the dapper kernel is not suitable for embedded devices I think01:03
lupine_85s///?01:04
greyscaleanyone at all going to help?01:04
tjsit has a CF slot01:04
tjsand also a notebook drive in it01:04
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eternalswdgnome-panel Time and Date gui isn't remembering the settings.  what do I do to change the time zone and the time?01:04
GStubbs43Okay, I installed everything that apt-cache search pango said to, but it still says the same thing, configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango01:04
lupine_85grayscale https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:04
mwetjs: that kernel has EVERY possible option turned on. you don't want that in a tiny system01:04
lupine_85you don't want to use standard ubuntu on a CF card01:04
tjsmwe: ah01:04
lupine_85it'll break it rather nastily01:04
sethktjs, for embedded you really want a different type of root file system, etc.01:05
lupine_85(frequent writes)01:05
Quicksilvaso i installed that but it still tells me i need to mount the drive01:05
mwetjs: dapper is not the best choice for embedded linux01:05
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lupine_85If it's a hard drive, then ubuntu will work fine - a p2 equivalent isn't exactly embedded, TBH ;)01:05
Quicksilva"unable to mount selected volume"01:05
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lupine_85however, you might want to look at AspisOS as an alternative01:05
tjsIm not developing a platform for anything serious, I have picked up this machine and I want to turn it into a fileserver for home01:05
lupine_85it's incredible01:06
greyscalelupine_85, lol thanks ^^01:06
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mwetjs: specs?01:06
lupine_85can you put the hard drive in your PC temporarily?01:06
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lupine_85(if not, it'll be a pain to get ubuntu on - but possible)01:07
sethkusually an embedded device using a CF card uses IDE emulation, so it isn't difficult to load linux on it.01:07
tjsmwe, arm processor, x86 emulation, p2 equiv, 256 ram, 40gig notebook drive01:07
looktjwhat is the url to install commands?01:07
lupine_85yes, but when you write repeatedly to a CF card, it b0rks it01:08
mwetjs: forget about ubuntu and look for distro for embedded devices01:08
sethktjs, if it has a 40 gig drive, what is a CF card used for?01:08
sethklupine_85, that's true, but it has to be a very large number of writes01:08
lupine_85and you don't want to be replacing it every month or so01:08
lupine_85for instance, /var/log ?01:08
sethklupine_85, that' true, I disable logging on my CF card devices01:08
mwetjs: I don't think dapper will even work on that01:08
lupine_85it should do, if the x86 emulation is up to scratch01:09
poningruanyone know how to do bridging between wifi and ethernet01:09
lupine_85I got it working on a 32MB Pentium-120 ;)01:09
tjsno idea, I don't know the original purpose, I've picked this thing up for $300 second hand, I intend on running it in my cupboard as a file server and also I would like to do a bit of home automation in python or something01:09
lupine_85poningru: man brctl01:09
tjsnot 100% sure, I just want to see what I can get it to do :)01:09
mwelupine_85: I thought the installer wanted at least 192MB of RAM though01:10
lupine_85you'll need to install bridge-utils as well01:10
lupine_85mwe: you do if you want to use the installer01:10
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snoopi keep getting error 250 after i install packages with synaptec01:11
lupine_85(this is where I got my debootstrap experience from ;) )01:11
Samus_Aranwhere bouts can I find a terminal in Gnome ?  (I'm helping someone on the phone)01:11
greyscalewell my problems fixed.01:11
mwelupine_85: and at least a P3. but with debootstrap I guess you could if you're persistant :)01:11
greyscalebyeeee01:11
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cafuegomwe: As long as you don't insist on running the livecd first or installing Gnome, it has fairly modest ram requirements.01:11
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tjsahh01:11
no0tickopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?01:11
jaakkostjs: maybe something like damn small linux?01:11
mwecafuego: yeah01:11
ardchoilleSamus_Aran: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal01:11
tjsit seems to have an old copy of potato running on it01:12
lupine_85samus: start(or whatever it is)->Run command (or whatever it is)->xterm01:12
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ardchoilleSamus_Aran: ot, ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal01:12
tjsI wonder if I can debian potato -> ubuntu dapper ;)01:12
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mwecafuego: wouldn't you get problems with anything less than P3 though?01:12
lupine_85seriously check out AspisOS. I use it on my SBC and it is great01:12
Flannelmwe: no01:12
cafuegomwe: Nope, not at all.01:12
ardchoillelupine_85: There is no "Run" menu item in gnome 2.14.. unless youi made one01:12
lupine_85mwe: no - you can install on a 386 if you want01:12
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lupine_85ardchoille: really?!01:13
mweoh ;)01:13
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cafuegomwe: When you get down to the 486 range you may experience extreme slowness, though ;-)01:13
Samus_Aranardchoille: thank you01:13
lupine_85<shudder>01:13
lupine_85(I'm on KDE, so working from memory)01:13
cafuegomwe: It's not even particularly fast on 233MHz G3 Macs.01:13
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ardchoillelupine_85: Really, they took it out01:13
harleypigI seem to have fubar'd my kismet install somehow ... shouldn't I be able to do dpkg-reconfigure kismet and have it install the config files again?01:13
ardchoilleSamus_Aran: Thank you :)01:13
lupine_85oh dear01:13
mwecafuego: I see ...01:13
bthorntonHey, I know this isn't directly Ubuntu related so my apologies, but... I'm being forced to buy a new MB/CPU and am looking at a Pentium D (Dual Core).  In Linux, will this dual-core process appear as two distinct CPUs -- thus requiring me to run an SMP kernel?01:13
NemesisUKQuicksilva, you need to install libc601:14
ardchoillelupine_85: But, you can make a new menu item with alacarte and give it the command:  gnome-panel-control --run-dialog01:14
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sMoKiNsTiEnhello01:14
lupine_85it's the principle of the thing...01:14
lupine_85next you'll be telling me they don't have a root terminal in the menu! (j/k, I know that's not there any more!)01:14
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ardchoillelupine_85: It's there, you just have to open alacarte and un-hide it01:15
gholenCan i register on #ubuntu?01:15
lupine_85out of sight, out of mind?01:15
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sMoKiNsTiEnumm how can i get the ati driver working on ubuntu ..gives me an error when i try to install it ..can anyone help me ..this is the first time ive tried an linux based os01:15
ardchoillelupine_85: Well, using sudo is much better01:15
lupine_85bthornton: I *think* it presents itself as a single CPU, but not sure01:16
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ardchoillegholen: "register"? You can register a nickname on freenode01:16
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harleypigbthornton: I've got an amd x2, it shows up in most monitoring apps (including top) as two cpus01:16
Samus_Aranhow can one check a wireless connection on Ubuntu ?01:16
lupine_85however, you don't need a special version of windows to "take advantage" of duo (they charge ~100 extra for smp, IIRC)01:16
gholenardchoille: Okay, already done that, just wondering thogh...01:16
gholenthanks01:16
Dev05Hey guys, I just did a dist-upgrade and I got a new version of the xorg-core pack. Now it says thaat it couldn't find any device. nVidis GeForce 3 using propietary driver and XGL. what's going on?01:16
ardchoille:)01:16
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:16
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gholenanyone else had the problem with a totale destryd X when having i upgrade (the latest one)01:17
Dev05lupine_85, that was impressive ;)01:17
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lupine_85xorg01:18
lupine_85hmm01:18
weirdoi upgraded this package and now my os wont boot01:18
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sMoKiNsTiEncan anyone help me01:18
lupine_85(never done this before ;) )01:18
weirdosomething to do with xorg01:18
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:18
weirdoi get the no screen error01:18
lupine_85aha!01:18
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Dev05Yeah, it saya in there.01:18
lupine_85won't work for them all, but helps a bit01:18
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Dev05says*01:18
HellDragonhi01:19
lupine_85someone else say it :)01:19
HellDragonim back01:19
dredhammerso how bad is it i just installed this update01:19
HellDragonand its still not working01:19
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looktjwhat is the site to install stuff?01:19
looktjsuch as mplayer, multiplayer, java, etc.?01:19
dredhammerhaven't restarted yet tho01:19
dredhammeri was just goinbg top01:19
weirdoare you having the same problem as me?01:19
HellDragon:(01:19
dredhammer*to01:19
ardchoille!restricted > looktj01:19
sMoKiNsTiEncan anyone help me01:19
Dev05thanks, I'll try what the link says out.01:19
harleypigso anyone can tell me how to reconfigure a kismet installation?01:19
natural20does JVM come with ubuntu?01:19
Marco2391dredhammer, you only have to restart for kernel updates01:19
lupine_85apt-get remove --purge kismet01:19
lupine_85apt-get install kismet01:19
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lakinHey all, at my office today I was trying to configure a Matrox G200 and a Intel i810 card to do dual monitors.  We could get the I810 working fine, but all our attempts at configuring the G200 resulted in a corrupted screen ... :(01:20
lupine_85--purge kills all your config files01:20
harleypigahh ... that's what I was missing01:20
Marco2391Kerney updates or kernel panic are the only reasons01:20
harleypiglupine_85: thanks01:20
lupine_85install puts them back01:20
lupine_85np01:20
lakinIs there any known issues for a Matrox G200?01:20
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linuxuserwhy does the xserver-xorg-core update hose my x server?????01:20
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:20
lupine_85w00t!01:20
gbaumanWow, so it's a big X thing then01:20
gbaumanwhew01:20
sMoKiNsTiEnhello anyone01:20
looktjardchoille: i mean site that tells me how to install stuff it wiki something01:20
KolaNorsulinuxuser: i just updatet it, and i blew my X01:21
ardchoille!restricted01:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:21
KolaNorsui = it01:21
dredhammerautomatix works01:21
ardchoillelooktj: first link in that post01:21
natural20does JVM come with Ubuntu?01:21
dredhammeror easy buntu01:21
harleypiglupine_85: that did it, thanks.01:21
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dredhammerif its restricted stuff you want to do in a snap01:21
linuxuserthe xserver-xorg-core update is bullshit, id expect this kind of craph from mshaft01:21
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:21
ardchoilledredhammer: Please don't recommend automatix. It's not supported or recommended here01:21
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Tweakhow can I create a shortcut of a program?01:21
dredhammerreally when did that happen?01:21
KolaNorsulinuxuser: do u know how i can fix it?01:21
linuxuserno i dont01:21
HellDragonim pised off01:21
KolaNorsu:(01:22
HellDragonpissed01:22
sMoKiNsTiEncan some  1 help me plaese01:22
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blu2Hi All, just installed mplayer and mplayerplugin via apt-get.mplayer works but mplayerplugins doesnt.Is there a separate config for the plugin for firefox1.5?01:22
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dredhammerwell what about easy buntu?01:22
KolaNorsume too with X!01:22
linuxuserwhat a bunch of bullshit01:22
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, only if you ask a question01:22
lupine_85look on the bright side - this is the first time something like this has happened to my knowledge in ubuntu01:22
dowdleQuick question... I just installed ubuntulite and X wasn't configured at all.  I'm upgrading the packages right now... but... what is the command line for configuration of X?01:22
weirdohow would i downgrade the xserver-xorg-core if i have no net?01:22
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:22
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ardchoilledredhammer: It's much better to learn how to install those things yourself, then, if anything breaks, you won't be lost01:22
sMoKiNsTiEni have been ..im trying to installl th4e ati driver on ubuntu and when i run the installer i get an error01:22
linuxuserany developers in here, get that fucking crap of the updater01:22
lupine_85you would use the CD?01:22
Dev05dowdle, dexconf01:22
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BHSPitLappywould anyone recommend choosing ext3 over reiserfs, for a biiig partition for holding my documents01:23
dredhammercompile mplayer yourself01:23
lupine_85reiserfs every time01:23
dowdleDevOS: Thanks, I'll give it a try.01:23
sethklinuxuser, for important system,s don't install a new o/s version until it has been out for three months01:23
BHSPitLappyk01:23
ardchoillelupine_85: We saw that link the first time you posted it01:23
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dredhammeras for plugins easybuntu01:23
lupine_85it's on auto right now01:23
Dev05dowdle, np. It will just re-write xorg.conf01:23
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:23
lupine_85I Can turn it off if it's seriously annoying01:23
lupine_85yep, it's annoying01:23
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mcphailBHSPitLappy: i'd be happy to use ext3 for that01:23
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ardchoillelupine_85: It's seriously annoying01:23
lupine_85it's gone :)01:23
sMoKiNsTiEnim trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please01:24
kaottop01:24
ardchoillelupine_85: I don't think auto stuff like that is allowed in here anyway01:24
kaoterm.  my xterm is --> thataway, duh.  :\01:24
lupine_85k, will remember01:24
lupine_85I only did it because there's nobody around to set the topic01:24
sMoKiNsTiEnim trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please01:24
blu2dredhammer, can I compile it without uninstalling with apt-get first?01:24
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, have you read the howto for ati yet?01:24
ardchoillelupine_85: /join #ubuntu-ops and talk to them :)01:25
weirdohow do i install the package from the cd?01:25
sMoKiNsTiEnits my first time using a linux base os01:25
Marco2391blu2, assumming you're using make, just make sure you remove any similar packages with apt before you do "make install"01:25
sMoKiNsTiEni tried01:25
sMoKiNsTiEnand failed01:25
dredhammerwell you could but thats not clean01:25
BHSPitLappyweirdo, in synaptic, in the repository settings, add the cdrom01:25
sMoKiNsTiEni just need a little bit of help01:25
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weirdoim in terminal01:25
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, you found the howto document?  I'm asking because it explains things in detail, more detail than we could do here.01:25
weirdohaving the xorg-core problem01:25
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sethksMoKiNsTiEn, if you have a specific question, ask it01:25
sMoKiNsTiEncan you link it to me01:26
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dredhammerthe howto for mplayer on dapper is pretty clear01:26
dredhammercheck the forums01:26
mRCUTEOhello anyone knows how can i save iptables config in ubuntu>?01:26
dredhammerthe howto section01:26
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lupine_85iptables-save >iptables.conf01:26
dowdleok, how do I generate an X.org config from scratch?  dexconf didn't help.01:26
sethksomeone?  that howto URL for binary drivers?01:26
HellDragonHi, i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:26
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sethkdowdle, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:26
sMoKiNsTiEnwhere do i found this how to document01:26
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mRCUTEOthanks lupine_8501:26
dowdlesethk: Thanks, I'll give it a try.01:26
blu2thanks, I have and it is pretty clear,that is why I dont understand whyit isnt working....all the links seem to be in place01:26
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, I'm checking.  if you do a search for binarydriver and ubuntu, you'll find it.01:27
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blu2I will uninstall and try to compile myself....01:27
blu2thanks.....01:27
gbaumanIs this X-not-starting-after-update problem something I can fix with a config change, or do I need to wait for a new package?01:27
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:27
sMoKiNsTiEnthank you dude01:27
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mRCUTEOlupine_85: how can i restart the iptables - it doesnt show in init.d?01:28
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renderanybody get segmentation fault in ubuntu ppc running gtkpod?01:28
HellDragon:(01:28
linuxusergbauman, someone was smoking too much dope up at ubuntu headquarters01:28
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renderI tried to compile it from source but I think the problem is in a shared library...01:28
lupine_85iptables is in the kernel - it runs all the time, IIRC01:28
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lupine_85if it has no rules, then it doesn't do anything01:28
lupine_85(iptables is just a kernel interface)01:29
sethklupine_85, well, yes and no.  if there are no instructions registered, it does nothing.  so, technically, it is running, but actually ...01:29
K^Holtza new version of azureus is out.. will that show up on my autoupdates?01:29
mRCUTEOlupine_85 : what if i reboot ... do the iptables rules got reset too?01:29
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looktjardchoille: i dont see anything to install java and lojack01:29
lupine_85yes. So run iptables-restore < iptables.conf01:29
natural20is there someplace better to get ubuntu breezy help?01:29
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lupine_85(once you've generated iptables.conf, of course)01:29
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lupine_85use /etc/iptables.conf01:29
sethknatural20, no, you can get help here01:29
mRCUTEOoh thanks lupine_8501:30
sethknatural20, I still have all my boxes except one on breezy01:30
HellDragon:(01:30
dowdlesethk: Thanks, that worked for me.  I installed UbuntuLite in a VMware Server virtual machine with 64MB of RAM and a 2GB disk... to simulate some low end hardware I'd like to try it on later.01:30
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lupine_85and add the commands to /etc/init.d/networking01:30
sethkdowdle, sounds interesting01:30
imachinehello01:30
lupine_85(iptables-save, iptables-restore)01:30
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HellDragon i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:31
lupine_85there are probably GUI tools to do all this automatically - no idea what, though ;)01:31
imachinecould anyone point me to a weblink or something alike where i can learn the differences between 6.06 and 6.06.1 ?01:31
imachineof Ubuntu Dapper ?01:31
natural20i try installing ANYTHING (jvm, firefox 1.5, vassal) using ubuntu walkthroughs i find on the net, but something always goes wrong.  I need someone to walk through with me, and point me in the right direction when i encounter an error.   Any takers?01:31
sethknatural20, you mean installing from ubuntu packages?01:31
HellDragonanother thime:  i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:31
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natural20sethk: i can't answer that question because i don't know what ubuntu packages are.01:32
weirdodoes anyone know what folder am i supposed to cd to to find xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb?01:32
sethknatural20, how are you trying to install?01:32
mRCUTEOIs this the latest version of ubuntu: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l that has no problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel?01:32
weirdoon the disc01:32
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sethkmRCUTEO, none of the versions have any problems with that, afaik01:32
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itsmorefun/bin/sh: line 1: 29391 Erreur de segmentation  /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt01:33
itsmorefunwhat can i do?01:33
lupine_85weirdo: once you've run "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb", it'll be right in front of you01:33
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mRCUTEOsethk: what versions of ubuntu got problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel? do you know any?01:33
weirdoi dont have net01:34
weirdoon the laptop01:34
lupine_85ah01:34
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lupine_85on the CD then?01:34
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weirdoya01:34
lupine_851 second01:34
weirdoi mounted the cd01:34
mainermRCUTEO: firestarter is easiest gui-front-end for net-filter(part of kernel does firewalling),fast easy01:34
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sethkmRCUTEO, none that I know of01:34
weirdothanks man01:34
natural20sethk: for example, from Java's website I have downloaded JRE for linux.  I'm sure i have the right package for my computer, but following their install walkthrough I immediately get an error (such and such can't be located, i don't have it in front of me.)01:35
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lupine_85you could try running slocate /media/cdrom |grep xserver-xorg-core01:35
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mainermRCUTEO: http??www.fs-scurity.com/  its in repository also,but grab the user manual/guide01:35
weirdok01:35
mRCUTEOokay thanks sethk, thanks mainer01:35
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sethknatural20, java is a bad example because the package install isn't great.  For other things, though, ubuntu uses the debian package manager.  you can run an app, synaptic, and search for and install packages01:36
K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?01:36
sethknatural20, that takes care of things like dependencies, meaning it installs whatever you need that is missing01:36
Linuturkhow do I get my gdesklets to load at startup?01:36
sethknatural20, it's best to install that way and revert to other methods only if using packages has a problem.01:36
mRCUTEOsethk : sorry for my wrong statment: what im trying to say: is there any exploit againts Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - i heard kernel 2.6 got affected..01:37
lupine_85on my CD it's at pool/main/x/xorg-server01:37
HexidigitalLinuturk: add them to System > Preferences > Session > Startup01:37
HexidigitalLinuturk: s/them/it... make an entry for gdesklets01:37
KolaNorsuany one has just updatet his X.org-server-core? i made it and my X wont work now =(01:37
sethkmRCUTEO, whatever applies to the 2.6 kernel applies to ubuntu, but I have not heard of a problem with the kernel used in either breezy or dapper (dapper is 6.06)01:37
natural20sethk: ok, i'll try that01:37
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mainermRCUTEO:      url s.b.  http://www.fs-security.com/01:38
mRCUTEOoh..01:38
LinuturkHexidigital, just gdesklets01:38
mRCUTEOthanks01:38
Linuturk?01:38
lupine_85KolaNorsu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:38
HexidigitalLinuturk: yes01:38
LinuturkHexidigital, ok, thanks01:38
HexidigitalLinuturk: np01:38
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weirdoi found... /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-core.list and usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core01:39
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lupine_85nope, none of them01:39
KolaNorsulupine_85: do u know how to repair that01:39
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lupine_85 weirdo: how about /media/cdrom/pool/main/x/xorg-server$01:40
lupine_85KolaNorsu: instructions are at the bottom of the page01:40
KolaNorsulupine_85: ok thanx, i will send some cola to u :)01:40
lupine_85erm, s/xorg-server$/xorg-server/01:40
lupine_85yum :)01:40
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Linuturkok, this is the wierdest thing I've ever seen. My homepage is set to the university of Arizona . . . but my homepage is google . . .01:41
lupine_85probably get exploded as a suspicious parcel right now, though01:41
Linuturkusing firefox01:41
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Linuturkif I hit the home button01:41
Linuturkit takes me to the correct home page01:41
Linuturkbut, when it loads up01:41
weirdothere is no x dir01:41
Linuturkit goes to the universit of arizone . . .01:41
Linuturkarizona . . .01:41
cristophineHi all. I'm trying to print an image across multiple pages. I remember there was a command line tool that did this but I cant seem to find it. Does anyone know what it is?01:42
lupine_85your CD must be different then... mine is the alt install01:42
lupine_851 second01:42
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void^Linuturk: that's probably because the start link is firefox %A or similar and google autosearch ends up at the university of arizona (i'm not kidding)01:42
weirdooh.. mine is the desktop one01:42
weirdodoes that mean i have to download the alt?01:42
BreakDecksEver since upgrading to Dapper Drake, my external hard drives are mounting to the /mnt folder with names like 'sda1' or 'sdb1', and not to the /Media folder where they have a more recognizable name.  This is especially annoying because when I reboot, they have new mount points, and my indexing gets screwed up.  How do I fix this?01:42
Linuturkvoid^, it does say %u01:42
lupine_85your mountpoint is /media/cdrom, right?01:42
weirdocdrom001:42
weirdobut ya01:42
KolaNorsulupine_85: i tried01:43
lupine_85so /media/cdrom0/pool/main/x/xorg-server doesn't exist either?01:43
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jnwhat is the cmd to make a file executable?01:43
lupine_85chmod a+x filename01:43
weirdodir main returns "b d e f g i l m n p s"01:43
jnty01:43
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Warbo!grub01:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:43
KolaNorsuhow i can make a text file01:44
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mweBreakDecks: mine mounts to /media/usbdisk01:44
void^Linuturk: hrm, if i enter %u in the address bar i get the university of alberta :] 01:44
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HellDragonYAY X doesnt work anymore01:44
jnhow do i make that execuatble file accessable by name in any dir01:44
rotellarohi all01:44
weirdolol01:44
KolaNorsuhow i can make a text file01:44
KolaNorsu:(01:44
Linuturkvoid^, well, that fixed it01:44
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Linuturkthanks01:44
HellDragonapt-get doesnt work and X doesnt work and i get no help01:44
cristophinejn: put it in your /usr/bin directory01:44
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HellDragonim pissed off now01:44
cafuegojn: Normally you'd move it to /usr/local/bin01:45
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mweor /usr/local/bin for local stuff01:45
KolaNorsuim too because i dont know howto make a textfile01:45
BreakDecksmwe: I want it to mount based on the name of the drive, not the hardware address.  One drive is named "IXION", I want it to mount as "/media/IXION", instead of "/mnt/sdd1"01:45
weirdoya.. i have to write a letter for my mother and i cant access my laptop now =D01:45
HellDragonyou all so help me01:45
lupine_85helldragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:45
rotellaroplease someone can help me? I've updated xorg and suddendly X stopped to work01:45
ardchoilleWell, with all these folks having a problem after the latest xserver update.. I won't be updating it for a few days ;)01:45
lupine_85^ ^01:45
KolaNorsulupine_85: how i can make a text file? :(01:45
Dev05KolaNorsu, Just open your favorite text editor and start typing.01:45
rotellaroargh!01:45
jncool ty01:46
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lupine_85still working weirdo01:46
KolaNorsuDev05: ok thx :D01:46
mweBreakDecks: you need to fiddle with the hald rules. I'm not an expert and it takes alot of fiddling around01:46
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weirdohuh? still working?01:46
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ZambeziI need to make some more space free on a harddrive. Is there some "crapfiles" like logs somewhere I can delete? It very little packages installed.  820 MB is used.01:46
Dev05KolaNorsu, If you're in GNOME try gedit, in KDE, kate and in Xfce, nano.01:46
looktji found it! http://www.ubuntuguide.org01:46
mwe!ubuntuguide01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
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bigmarCuswhats usually the best MP3 player for ubuntu/linux besides xmms?01:47
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looktj!guide01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
Dev05lupine_85, Thank's a lot for the link. Now I'm back on Linux with X running :).01:47
Herbali upgraded xorg packages and now my X wont load01:47
WarbobigmarCus: There are loads. I like Amarok and Listen01:47
gbaumanI got X running but now it crashes to a blank screen right after the GNOME splash screen01:48
jamieHi guys.  Sorry for the idiotic question but I can't find an answer with w3m..  What's the command to reconfigure X?01:48
Warbo!best01:48
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.01:48
gbaumanjoy01:48
bigmarCusWarbo: thanks ill check them out01:48
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Dev05jamie, dexconf. It will re-write xorg.conf01:48
lupine_85Herbal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:48
WarbobigmarCus: Listen isn't in Ubuntu yet, it's on listengnome.free.fr01:48
jamieDev05: thanks01:48
Dev05jamie, np.01:48
mitchgbauman, this happened to me. Do ifconfig .. is loopback up?01:48
bigmarCusWarbo: thanks01:48
profoX`bigmarCus: I like to use Amarok personally (yea also in GNOME)01:48
jamieDev05: is it supposed to do anything?01:49
lupine_85on getting that package :)01:49
profoX`but that's just a matter of opinion01:49
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jamieI keep getting "No screens found"01:49
gbaumanmitch, yep01:49
Dev05jamie, follow lupine_85's link.01:49
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jamieman, which one is that?  It's hard with a text based browser01:49
Dev05jamie, here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:49
WarboprofoX`: Amarok doesn't like my non-MP3/Ogg files. Even if I drag them into the playilst manually, it says "These aren't in your collection" well done, you didn'y add them!01:50
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sMoKiNsTiEnhow do i get games working on ubuntu01:50
jamieDev05: problem is I have no clue how to pull up that link with irssi01:50
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Dev05jamie, I'll type it here for you. Just a sec.01:50
Warbo!synaptic > sMoKiNsTiEn01:50
lupine_85you need lynx installing01:50
sMoKiNsTiEn i mean windows games01:50
cabulosohow do i find out the "local-machine-name" ?01:50
gbaumanjamie, alt-f2 to another terminal, log in, type 'w3m <link>'01:50
Warbo!cedega > sMoKiNsTiEn01:50
erdrickok i just installed the latest radeon drivers but it says it's still useing mesa for opengl and rendering how do i fix that?01:50
gbaumancabuloso: cat /etc/hostname01:50
mwesMoKiNsTiEn: most of them don't work01:50
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profoX`Warbo: non-mp3/ogg ? like what? wma works fine too.. I don't think I know many other formats :) besides flac01:51
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mwesMoKiNsTiEn: if you're willing to spend a few days you might get a few to work in wine01:51
cabulosogbauman: thanks man ! :01:51
Georgeyay suspend is broken on my t43p :)01:51
gbaumancabuloso: No problem01:51
Dev05jamie, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core-1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb01:51
WarboprofoX`: xm, it, and s3m mainly01:51
weirdoi think i should add the cd to the repo list01:51
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weirdowhat's the line of code i should add?01:51
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HellDragon:(01:51
HellDragonX is dead01:51
sMoKiNsTiEnbut dosnt cedega cost money01:51
gbaumanWarbo: those are supported in both xine and gstreamer with the right plugin01:52
profoX`Warbo: oh, yea, Amarok could play those before :( but the gstreamer engine seized development, and the xine engine can't playi t yet01:52
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mweHellDragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 probably01:52
profoX`gbauman: gstreamer engine = dead01:52
rdzevolution-question: how can i add a cc-address, when writing a new mail?01:52
HellDragonmwe: what01:52
profoX`(at least in 1.4.x and higher)01:52
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gbaumanprofoX`: You are crazy01:52
HellDragonmwe: i cant01:52
HellDragonmwe: im not on X01:52
profoX`gbauman: in 1.4.x and higher it'll be gone01:52
Warbogbauman: I know, but I have to drag them into Amarok and it complains that my collection isn't set up properly. It's the only feature of Banshee that I like01:52
Dev05jamie, If that one doesn't work, just try this one: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb01:52
HellDragonmwe: and i dont know how to copy past with irssi and i  cant apt-get lynx beause apt-get is broken01:52
HellDragon:(01:52
mweHellDragon: you upgrade X and it dies?01:53
weirdohow do i add the cd to the repo list? what do i type into sources.list?01:53
profoX`jamie: Dev05: I think this works too: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:53
lupine_85 weirdo: is it a 6.06.1 CD?01:53
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KolaNorsulupine_85: What was the site, https://lauchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/571XX??01:53
Warboweirdo: There is a tool for it. Hang on01:53
Dev05profoX`, I don't know :)01:53
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:53
mweHellDragon: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and install it with dpkg01:53
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KolaNorsuok thx =)01:53
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gbaumanprofoX`: version 1.4.x of what?01:53
HellDragonmwe: dpkg doesnt work either01:53
profoX`gbauman: amarok01:53
Warboweirdo: "apt-cdrom" I am not sure ho to use it though (maybe look in it's man)01:53
HellDragonmwe: everything is screwed up01:53
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mweHellDragon: huh?01:54
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lupine_85dpkg -i <package-name>01:54
mweHellDragon: sounds bad01:54
weirdoya it's the dapper cd01:54
lupine_85apt-cdrom is for adding cdroms to the repo01:54
HellDragonITS ALL the fault of RAGEIRCD01:54
gbaumanprofoX`: Oh, ok, just some KDE app. gstreamer the project is alive and quite excellent.01:54
HellDragonthe dpkg and apt-get are trying to install it01:54
HellDragonand it doesnt work01:54
profoX`gbauman: yes I know that ;)01:54
HellDragonbut it keep trying everytime i try to do soemthing01:54
profoX`gbauman: I was referring to the Amarok Gstreamer engine01:54
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HellDragoni tried everyting01:54
mweHellDragon: oh01:54
gbaumanprofoX`: I gotcha01:54
profoX`:)01:54
mweHellDragon: I had to manually fix the APT database once01:55
profoX`I never liked the gstreamer engine anyway.. Xine engine has always worked better here :) (for amarok)01:55
lupine_85 weirdo: comment out all the net repos, leaving just the cdrom one. Then apt-get update. Thensudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:55
lupine_85see if that does the trick01:55
gbaumanprofoX`: Yeah, but 0.10 fisxed a lot of the big architectural issues. Gstreamer is almost as cool as the BeOS Media Kit now01:55
profoX`gbauman: I know BeOS, but I dont know their Media Kit :)01:56
weirdoerm.. how do you exit out of manpages?01:56
weirdolol01:56
Quicksilvaanyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed?01:56
HellDragonmwe: :'(01:56
lupine_85q01:56
profoX`weirdo: type Q01:56
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weirdohaha.. i was trying ctr+everything01:56
profoX`lol01:56
gbaumanprofoX`: I hope GNOME catches up to the BeOS tracker's metadata handling some say01:56
gbaumansome day01:56
lupine_85you could always copy the .deb to a cd or CF or *something* and xfer it to your laptop that way?01:56
lupine_85(from whatever computer you're at now)01:56
WarboGstreamer Amarok engine always screws up for me, so I use Xine. It seems like gstreamer tries to catch up to itself or something, and the song stutters01:57
profoX`gbauman: I don't know alot about BeOS (almost nothing) I know it's a closed source OS that's pretty cool and fast :) and that there is an open source project Haiku that wants to create an open source BeOS, but thats all I know :)01:57
Quicksilvaanyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed :/01:57
profoX`Warbo: yea I know, but in 1.4.x gstreamer will be gone anyway, it's unsure if it will come back or not01:57
mweHellDragon: what I did, and only try it at own risk was. back up /var/lib/dpkg and removed the enry for the broken package. that way apt thinks it's never been installed01:57
WarboprofoX`: I wanted to try Haiku in Qemu, but you need to install BeOS first, then turn it into Haiku :(01:57
profoX`Warbo: wtf?01:57
profoX`you sure?01:58
erdrickanyone know how to get my OpenGl to use my radeon drivers and not the mesa drivers?01:58
WarboprofoX`: I know. The CD images of BeOS they offer are not iso format either01:58
HellDragonmwe: fixing X first would be a better idea :(01:58
gbaumanWarbo: That's because the Haiku project is replacing the BeOS's commercial closed-source parts from inside the BeOS itself01:58
mweHellDragon: except you need dpkg to do it01:58
lupine_85!xorg01:58
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:58
AdemanI know this could be considered stupid or futile, but I'd like to make this petition, and i'd like people to review it before I post the draft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135001:58
Dev05erdrick, You have to get the ATI Propietary X Server Drivers.01:58
bigmarCusWarbo: You still there?01:58
HellDragoni cant go on sites01:58
profoX`gbauman: Warbo: oh I didn't know that ._.01:58
Warbogbauman: Exactly, like GNU replacing UNIX until Linux came along01:58
HellDragonIM IN TEXT MODE01:58
jamieexit01:58
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AdemanHellDragon: awesome :-)01:59
BlueEaglehelldragon: also your caps lock seems to be stuck.01:59
mweHellDragon: and you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg01:59
HellDragondpkg = broken01:59
Ademanyou're boned01:59
erdrickDev05: the driver install download won't do the trick?01:59
Ademanlol01:59
HellDragonapt-get = broken01:59
Ademanhow is it broken?01:59
mweHellDragon: I told you how to fix it01:59
HellDragoni get errors01:59
BlueEaglehelldragon: and links2 is a good text-mode web browser01:59
HellDragonmwe: yeah01:59
mweHellDragon: I told you how to fix it01:59
HellDragonmwe: but i want X working first01:59
Ademanwhat errors?01:59
mweHellDragon: you can't01:59
Ademanyou need dpkg first to get x working01:59
Dev05!tell erdrick about ati02:00
profoX`Ademan: if it was more structured I'd consider reading it :) divided into paragraphs02:00
mweHellDragon: you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg02:00
HellDragonmwe: yes02:00
looktji need to install latest jdk02:00
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profoX`Ademan: it would make a better petition too :)02:00
KolaNorsulupine_85: thanks very much to you, im sure it will start now :)02:00
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erdrickDev05: that's cool how did you do that?02:00
mweHellDragon: so how do you plan to fix X first when it depends on dpkg which is not working?02:00
lupine_85figners crossed :)02:00
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Warboerdrick: Is that radeon driver as in radeon, or as in fglrx?02:00
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AdemanprofoX`: I tried to keep it short, hence the single paragraph, you think i should divide it though?02:00
Dev05erdrick, the bot.02:00
erdrickDev05: its fglrx02:00
HellDragonmwe: im trying to fix it02:00
HellDragonhaving someone sshing into my box would be better :(02:01
profoX`Ademan: yea02:01
Warboerdrick: OK, I could never get that to work :)02:01
mweHellDragon: are you listinging at all?02:01
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HellDragonmwe: im lost in irssi02:01
weirdowhen i try commenting out the http://archive.ubuntu..... it says not found02:01
gbaumanHey does anyone know the kernel 'vga=xxx' parameter to get native console resolution in 1440x900?02:01
HellDragonmwe: im trying to backup the dpkgs02:01
Dev05erdrick, Go into the ATI page and download the drivers.02:01
mweHellDragon: you can't fix Xorg without fixing dpkg first02:01
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HellDragoni know02:01
HellDragonthats not what im doing02:01
jamieDev05: Thanks man02:01
weirdobut when i uncomment, it found the package to downgrade but then says failure resolving the address02:01
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Dev05erdrick, Or use Synaptic.02:01
profoX`Ademan: use Enters and divide into 2 or 3 paragraphs.. it will read easier on the eyes02:01
mweHellDragon: just cp the file to antoher one02:01
Dev05jamie, You're welcome.02:01
FantasticFooi upgraded my version of xserver-xorg to a newer version from an unofficial .deb package - it apparently isn't compatible with my system somehow. how can i "downgrade" to the dapper version?02:01
HellDragon10gb of files02:02
jamieand whomever helped me downgrade X02:02
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mweHellDragon: huh?02:02
jamiegot it working02:02
HellDragonill do it if its the only solution02:02
HellDragonbrb02:02
profoX`FantasticFoo: it was an official package. :(02:02
beermunkis anyone available to answer a pptp question?02:02
gbaumanbeermunk: I can try02:02
profoX`FantasticFoo: does this work? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:02
jwisejamie: did the latest X update wreck your Xserver?02:02
jamiecan someone repost the bug, so I can look at it not in w3m? :D02:02
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jamiejwise: yes02:02
mweHellDragon: the status file is 10GB ?! I doubt it02:02
WarboI noticed that xserver-xorg is upgradable. Are these Xorg errors being discussed here to do with that, or something about edgy?02:02
beermunkthanks gbauman -02:02
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FantasticFooprofoX`: what was an official package?02:02
jwisejamie: cool.. that's why i'm here too02:02
FantasticFooprofoX`: hmm, i'll try that...02:02
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icemananyone using a optiplex dell ?02:02
beermunkbasically i'm trying to convert my settings from my windows vpn to pptp-config gui in kubuntu02:03
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profoX`FantasticFoo: xserver-xorg-core in dapper-updates is broken..02:03
WarboOK, I won't upgrade it then :)02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: crud!02:03
profoX`FantasticFoo: don't ask me how the bug slipped in ._.02:03
jamiejwise: I downgraded X like profoX`is saying02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: so i just follow that command, and bang?02:03
jwisethat's what i'm trying now02:03
HellDragonmwe: im looking into the things i copied now02:03
sureshot_hey i have an toshiba laptop with a 17" tft monitor why will ubuntu not work it say no monitor defined02:03
jamiejwise: worked like a charm for me02:03
mweHellDragon: what did you cp?02:03
lupine_85weirdo: it can't be on your CD then. Have you got any way of transferring the file to your laptop from the pc you're on now?02:03
jwisei think i hosed it more by "apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core", though :(02:03
profoX`FantasticFoo: if it downgrades the package, then it should be fine02:03
beermunkfor some reason after I connect I can ping outside sites but not inside sites02:03
HellDragonmwe: the whole /var/lib/dpkg02:03
lupine_85how did you get the update on in the first place02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: sweet!02:04
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mweHellDragon: you shouldn't02:04
weirdois lan plug and play?02:04
profoX`jwise: lol I think so too, reinstall it lik ethis: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:04
icemanAnyone Using a Dell Optiplex P4 3 GHZ, ht ... ? system ?02:04
mweHellDragon: just /var/lib/dpkg/status like I told you02:04
HellDragon:(02:04
BlueEaglehelldragon: If you're unable to fix your X by yourself I can send you the fix in /msgs if you'd like.02:04
HellDragonmwe: ok02:04
HellDragonbrb02:04
beermunkit's like pptp-config isn't letting me use the domain name correctly02:04
jamiejwise: that's what i did ^^  what profoX` is saying02:04
lupine_85jwise: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop, or whatever) to get your packagtes back... then do the fix mentioned above02:04
jwisejamie: my X is up and going02:04
FantasticFoobrb, i'm gonna reboot02:04
jwiselupine: awesome, thanks!02:04
profoX`FantasticFoo: after the command, try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start     and X should start (if you use gdm as login manager that is)02:04
profoX`okay nevermind ._.02:04
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HellDragonok im nano'ing the Status i copied02:04
mweHellDragon: then search for the broken package in the status file and remove the 10 lines or so for it02:05
Warboweirdo: If you have DHCP then yes. If not then you need to know IP addresses02:05
HellDragonmwe: ok02:05
Ademanis dell considered an OEM?02:05
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jamieok guys.. since this is Day 1 in Ubuntu for me, I'm off to read some more02:05
weirdothen i shall try that.. thanks and brb02:05
icemanYes dell is OEM02:05
HellDragonmwe: is there a way to search for text in nano ?02:05
mweHellDragon: but be sure you have the backup handy in case you srew up02:05
HellDragonyeah02:05
erdrickDev05: do i download the installer or x.org 6.8 they don't have an x.org 7.0.0 listed02:05
weirdoctr + w?02:05
sureshot_does anyone know why ubuntu will not start x on my toshiba laptop it detects the ati card but has problem with the monitor02:06
mweHellDragon: ctrl-W I think02:06
HellDragonwee thanks02:06
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Dev05erdrick, Yeah, take the latest version you find... Should work :)02:06
profoX`jamie: problems like these rarely happen.. this is the first big problem I encountered in ubuntu in my half year experience with ubuntu.. I'm a little bit pissed though.. that an obvious bug like this slipped in!02:06
mweHellDragon: when you find it make sure you remove all of the lines in question02:06
icemansureshot_ mot likely trying to display to the Monitor port on the Laptop02:06
HellDragonyep02:06
HellDragontheres like 20lines02:06
mweHellDragon: it will be about 10 after each other. or 20 yes02:07
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Dev05How do you get IRC in text mode???02:07
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mweDev05: irssi02:07
jwiseDev05: sudo apt-get install ircii02:07
jwise:)02:07
ardchoilleDev05: irssi02:07
hanasakii pluged in a usb disk .. normally the system is in gnome and picks it up / automounts it.   this box is now remote w/o a gui... so how do i tell where the usb disk is in /dev ?02:07
sureshot_iceman i dont understand i am a newbie may i ask you to explain02:07
TeatherwindAnyone able to assist me with the install of flash on firefox?02:07
SNowyou had a Deal with quagga ?02:07
Dev05mwe, jwise, ardchoille, I wish I knew that before. Thanks!02:07
icemansureshot_ is the a place on the laptop to plug a monitor in ?02:07
ardchoille:)02:07
jamieprofoX`: I'm a long time debian user,  I figured it was something simple but without X searching through text is hard.  LOL02:07
SNowhow could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?02:08
mweDev05: yeah. handy if you screw up X ;)02:08
sastraxi(EE) No devices detected. no screens on my X server configuration, ubuntu 6.0602:08
sureshot_iceman yes there is..02:08
lupine_85hanasaki: usually it'll automatically make a file in /dev for you... try ls /dev *usb*02:08
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sastraxiand here's the kicker --- it was working before a reboot with no change in configuration02:08
mwesastraxi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:08
lupine_85or it'll show up as an sdxxx driver02:08
icemansureshot_ you have a monitor you can plug in ?02:08
lupine_85e.g. /dev/sda02:08
lupine_85if your hard drives are /dev/hd*02:08
sureshot_i can get one yes02:08
dibblegoafter installing 6.06 desktop on i386 how much s downloaded with apt-get update?02:08
Dev05Teatherwind, I guess you can go in Synaptic and install it. You have to first enable the channels that aren't selected by default in the GNOME Application Installer.02:08
hanasakilupine_85, all i have is  /dev/urandom02:08
deltabSNow: in and out, or sent and received02:08
profoX`jamie: yea I used debian for a long time too02:08
sastraxioh lord02:09
HellDragonok i did it02:09
HellDragonim testing02:09
sastraxithank you, mwe02:09
sastraxiI've been banging my head against the wall for an hour02:09
wizardbanging head can be good :)02:09
icemansureshot_ because the system has two displat port, on for the Screen and one for the external, look at the bio's and see if you can specity which to use02:09
profoX`jamie: with today's bug I somehow wish I stuck with it ;) (this is not true in general, I like ubuntu better as a desktop os)02:09
sureshot_iceman is it confusing the port with the lcd screen02:09
TeatherwindThanks Dev05, I didn't see it.. but I will look again..02:09
hanasakilupine_85, no luck02:09
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method|ubuntu vastly miscalculates the freespace on my fat32 partition, anyone know what could be the cause of this?02:10
sureshot_ok gives me someware to look thanks a lot02:10
Dev05Teatherwind, Otherwise open a page that requires Flash and Firefox will guide you through.02:10
lupine_85then something is broken? My /dev has loads in02:10
wizardanyone got a cure for this xorg update?02:10
lupine_85how about /dev/bus/usb?02:10
HellDragonweird its installing the linux kernel image02:10
HellDragonand some other things02:10
lupine_85sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:10
icemansureshot_ exactly, I get the same issue in a Dell with a ADD on Nvidia card. I have to install tot he onboard video, then reconfigure to the nvidia02:10
HellDragonill let it do it02:10
lupine_85or https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:10
jamieprofoX`: I will say the ubuntu install is easier LOL02:10
Dev05wizard, lupine_85 did.02:10
jwiselol... this is the biggest thing to hit ubuntu since 6.06!02:10
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mweHellDragon: what did you do?02:10
profoX`jamie: lol, debian 3.1 isn't that hard either02:10
TeatherwindTried that.. d/l'd the package.. extracted it.. ran it in the gui.. terminal pop'd up .. and then closed..02:10
sureshot_iceman thanks again02:10
sureshot_will try02:10
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SNowhow could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?02:11
hanasakilupine_85, no luck its not in there iether02:11
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Teatherwindif I try to do it in term then, I can't seem to locate the directory.02:11
icemansureshot_ i'm still a newbie at linux, but can lead you a little...02:11
HellDragonmwe: removed the ~20 lines in status who were talking about rageircd02:11
jamieprofoX`: no, ,not at all, but I had to do NOTHING with ubuntu..heh02:11
HellDragonmwe: and i think apt-get is working now02:11
Dev05Teatherwind, are you using GNOME?02:11
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lupine_85what happens when you run MAKEDEV (while in the /dev directory)02:11
TeatherwindYes02:11
sureshot_iceman well when you dont know ware to look you seem to be blind LOL at least now i will look there.... i am runing solaris at the moment but want ubuntu02:12
lupine_85you should be doing all this as root/sudo, btw02:12
mweHellDragon: I mean why is it installing linux and such02:12
sastraximwe: that worked, thanks :D02:12
profoX`jamie: oh, yea, after install, configuration goes smoothr in ubuntu, hardware detection too :)02:12
mwesastraxi: yw02:12
jwisereboot time... :-/02:12
HellDragonmwe: i got no idea lol02:12
Dev05Teatherwind, so then open gnome-terminal and drag'n'drop the .sh file that you downloaded fromt the Macromedia Flash Download page.02:12
icemansureshot_ check the Bios, and try pluging in a Monitor and see if you get a display02:12
HellDragonmwe: maybe because i tried a dist-upgrade that failed02:12
mweHellDragon: how much is it installing?02:13
ZambeziIs there systemfiles like log which I can delete? I need to free space.02:13
sureshot_ok will do i will do that now thanks02:13
HellDragonit just finished installing 40 things without errors02:13
jamieanyone use an Ipod with ubuntu?02:13
HellDragonyay it works02:13
HellDragonnow reboot time02:13
BlueEagleubotu: tell jamie about anyone02:13
mweHellDragon: did you type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or what?02:13
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HellDragonmwe: i dont know i did a lot of things02:13
HellDragonreboot time no02:13
HellDragonw02:13
TeatherwindNm.. figured it out...  I d/l'd the wrong package.  " \'x86_64\'" isn't supported02:13
weirdo_back02:13
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TeatherwindSo I will need to find the correct package.  Didn't know I could drop the file in to term.02:14
BlueEagleWhy is helldragon rebooting? Did he install a new kernel?02:14
weirdo_followed directions on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:14
TeatherwindThanks for that tip Dev, that will make my life MUCH easier.02:14
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weirdo_but didnt work02:14
BlueEaglejamie: Did you read the /msg from ubotu?02:14
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weirdo_gave me a 302 moved temp error02:14
mweBlueEagle: I think he did02:14
Dev05Teatherwind, Did I help??? Anyway...02:14
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TeatherwindHonestly..02:15
maddlerhas anyone updated latest xserver-core on dapper AMD64?02:15
maddler(hello)02:15
jamieBlueEagle: ya02:15
weirdo_but if i click on it in browser of diff comp, it works02:15
TeatherwindYes.. because I was having some issues with the basic pathing of the file.02:15
TokenBadfriend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?02:15
TeatherwindI couldn't seem to find it.. or figure out what 'where' I started.02:15
BlueEaglejamie: Good. Did you have a question regarding ubuntu and ipod or were you just conducting a survey?02:15
Dev05Teatherwind, oh.02:15
mweBlueEagle: but I don't think he realised he only had to reboot if he upgrade the kernel but he dissappeared before I had a chance to speak02:15
K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/02:16
jamieBlueEagle: Well.  I'm doing more research on my own.  When I narrow my question down to something that's acceptable I'll let you know02:16
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BlueEaglemwe: We'll just have to tell him about it when he gets back. :)02:16
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Dev05What's the bash command to delete folders?02:17
BlueEaglemwe: may I /msg you regarding the bug? Do you know anything about it or more spesifically the scope of hardware/software it affects?02:17
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deltabDev05: rmdir02:17
lupine_85rmdir02:17
lupine_85or rm -rf02:17
Dev05wow02:17
BlueEagle!ipod02:17
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto02:17
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lupine_85(if the dir has stuff in and you're feeling brave)02:17
deltabrm -r would be enough, usually02:17
BlueEagleubotu: tell jamie about ipod02:17
BlueEaglejamie: hope that helps.02:17
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jamieBlueEagle: It does, thank you02:17
HellDragonmwe: apt-get works dpkg works but not X02:17
mineraleHi, I have vncserer running. I used to be able to run a gnome session inside xvnc without no problem, now all the sudden I get an error saying:  gnome-session: you're already running a session manager02:17
Dev05deltab, lupine_85, Thanks! :) Bash-delete time!02:18
HellDragonill try a dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg02:18
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lupine_85Dev05: have fun :)02:18
mweHellDragon: I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.debserver/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:18
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wizardlupina cure worked02:18
eternalswdI just returned to college and need to change my time zone and time.  The time-admin is not remembering the settings I change, what can I do?02:18
FantasticFoohmm02:18
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FantasticFooafter downgrading to a working x.org version...02:18
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MrBallZHi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup ubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...02:19
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BlueEaglemwe: That was a fantastically long url.02:19
FantasticFooX works, but 1) i  have no 3d accel 2) i have no working window manager02:19
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mweBlueEagle: it was wrong02:19
lupine_85it was broken02:19
FantasticFoocan anybody help?02:19
swarmHey - How do I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?02:19
Dev05erdrick, how's your driver finally?02:19
weirdo_how do you eject cds in terminal?02:19
lupine_85eject02:19
mweHellDragon: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:19
wizardcan i lock out that update, it wants to do it again :(02:19
Warboweirdo_: "sudo eject /dev/cdrom-name"02:19
K^Holtzshould i direct my question about azureus and ubuntu updates to another channel?02:19
lupine_85just tell it not to02:19
ali1234how do i compile ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-26-386 from source?02:19
lupine_85I think synaptic has an option to peg it at a particular version, but adept doesn't02:20
erdrickDev05: i'm running that fakedrive stuff from the websight you had the bot show me02:20
Warboali1234: Install "linux-source-2.6.15" (that contains all of the patches to build -26)02:20
weirdo_damn.. i guess terminal cant read cdrw02:20
ardchoilleHow do I tell apt-get to update everything except the latest xserver update?02:20
weirdo_does that mean i have to burn 3mb of xorg core on to a blank cd?02:20
lupine_85ali1234: "make clean", "make menuconfig", "make", "make modules_install", "make install"02:20
BlueEaglemwe: The bug, does it only affect ATi?02:20
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Dev05erdrick, I didn't see what the bot said. Hold on.02:20
Dev05!tell Dev05 about ati02:20
Zerojakelhello02:21
swarmDoes anyone know how I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?02:21
ali1234Warbo: did that. i just get a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 - which fails to compile02:21
ardchoilleWell, all of the folks who install Ubuntu today will be screwed02:21
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Warbo!kernel02:21
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:21
TokenBadfriend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?02:21
lupine_85setup a script in /etc/rc5.d02:21
HellDragonmwe: wgetting it02:21
WarboI can't give any more info than that page sorry02:21
lupine_85^(swarm)^02:21
ali1234Warbo: tht only has instructions for 2.6.17... which i'm already running in the background02:21
swarmso everything is that dir is run at startup?02:21
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Zerojakeli have a problem with the update xserver-xorg-core?02:22
Zerojakelis it a bug?02:22
lupine_85everything in that dir is run on entry to runlevel 502:22
lupine_85which by default is when the GUI starts up02:22
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K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/ if i should direct this to another channel plz just let me know02:22
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swarmthere is something in there, S14ppp02:22
ardchoilleBlueEagle: I don't have ati or nvidia cards and that update broke mine too02:22
lupine_85zerojakel: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:22
Warboali1234: wtf? I've never actually read it, but I was assuming it actually let someone compile a kernel which Ubuntu ships....02:22
HellDragonlol i cant find where wget saved the .dev02:22
lupine_85you need to unzip it, if that helps...02:22
HellDragon.deb02:22
jwisewas anyone with the buggy X server running Xgl?  I still seem to be hosed02:22
HellDragonits not in my home directory02:22
ali1234Warbo: "note that this page describes how to do things for the Edgy (2.6.17) kernel and newer! Until this kernel source, we did not have any mechanisms in place that would allow people to build their own kernels easily. This was intentional."02:23
deltabK^Holtz: it's own update mechanism is probably independent of anything else02:23
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deltab^its02:23
erdrickDev05: dangit when i get to the "fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" part is says requested package is not suported02:23
ali1234so, maybe it's not easy, but someone must know how to do it :)02:23
swarmSo it seems that there is already a script there for it, but I need to find out how to enable i.02:23
K^Holtzdeltab: o ok, i was unaware it was capable of that02:23
lupine_85make-kpkg is the "Debian Way"(tm), however, it's crap02:23
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Warboali1234: Oh. I always built my custom kernels the regular way, no packaging or anything, so I didn't notice02:23
Dev05erdrcik, I guess this is the easiest way to get it running (I have an nVidia, so I'm not sure for ATI's): http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide02:23
TokenBadno one knows?02:24
deltabK^Holtz: it's been a while since I used it, but I think it has its own update02:24
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BlueEagleali1234: Are you looking for help to compile your own kernel?02:24
ali1234BlueEagle: Yes02:24
Dev05TokenBad, What's the actual error?02:24
rummikhey, i just installed flash player and there's no text appearing...i remember i had to do something with fonts, but i can't remember what. what am i supposed to do?02:24
ali1234i need to apply a tiny patch for a bug i found, to find out if it really is a bug02:24
BlueEagleali1234: are you registered with nickserv so that you can recieve messages?02:24
jrib!fonts02:24
ali1234yep02:24
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto02:24
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer02:24
erdrickDev05: yeah i've been to that wiki too i keep haveing the same trouble at the same spot02:24
HellDragonok found it02:24
HellDragondpkg -i ing it02:25
TokenBadDev05, says that and then says some themes, sounds or backgrounds will not be loaded02:25
K^Holtzdeltab: i dont see it.. do u think update manager will recognize theres a new version or no?02:25
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ardchoilleWell, that'll teach me to stay up-to-date, lol02:25
rummikjrib: thanks02:25
deltabK^Holtz: I guess so02:25
erdrickDev05: when i go to run fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/drapper it keeps telling me that the requested package is not supported02:25
wizardlol02:25
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wizardlocked my core now'02:25
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HellDragonX works !02:26
HellDragonthanks mwe02:26
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K^Holtzdeltab: i just dont wanna download a jar file and complicate things more than they have to be02:26
HellDragonnow i just need to configure it02:26
Dev05erdrick, The way I ran nVidia's is just with a -q parameter...02:27
Noah0504Hey everyone.02:27
deltabK^Holtz: how did you install it?02:27
bigmarCus_How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?02:27
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Dev05erdrick, And then it just compiled.02:27
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TokenBadDev05, this is the full error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135702:28
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weirdoi keep getting file moved error when i try to wget the xorg core file02:28
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K^Holtzdeltab: sudo apt-get install azureus02:28
erdrickDev05: so insted of Ubuntu/drapper try using a -q?02:28
LinuxHelper, how do I check what session my user is logged in to (gnome or kde)?02:28
AdemanprofoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21358   revised02:28
Dev05erdrick, I've never tried ATI's...02:28
deltabbigmarCus_: smbmount /192.168.1.102/mp3 somedir  I think02:28
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bigmarCus_deltab: thx ill try it02:29
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deltabK^Holtz: repeating that should update it, as I understand it02:29
sizzamLinuxHelp: try opening your home folder, should be the same name as your username02:29
lupine_85works here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:29
Khellendroswtf02:29
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profoX`Ademan: k ill check02:29
weirdoworks on this computer too02:29
Bonez56omgwtf02:29
weirdobut not on the laptop02:29
LinuxHelpsizzam, k..02:29
K^Holtzdeltab: o, i woudlnt think thats the case.. ill give it a try later tho.. after i wait to see if it autoupdates.. tahnks for your time02:29
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weirdokeep getting a 302 Moved Temporarily error02:30
bigmarCus_How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?02:30
sizzamLinuxHelp: there might be a smarter way, but i dont know it02:30
AdemanI know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135802:30
profoX`Ademan: I see some spelling mistakes02:30
AdemanprofoX`: i know i wrote it in gedit02:30
profoX`lol02:30
weirdooh wait.. i think it's because im trying to connect directly to the modem02:30
weirdoand my isp isnt recognizing the mac address02:30
Ademani'll spellcheck it after I can get the content down i guess02:30
sizzamAdam_G: F7 to check spelling in gedit02:30
Dev05TokenBad, No idea. on what's wrong. Sorry :(02:31
sizzamoops02:31
sizzamAdeman: F7 to check spelling in gedit02:31
lupine_85spoof the mac?02:31
weirdodamn i dont have an extra lan cable02:31
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Disastormhi02:31
linuxd00dcan gnome run KDE software?02:31
Ademansizzam: i didnt realize gedit spellchecked :-p02:31
lupine_85ifconfig <interface> hw ether <mac address>02:31
jriblinuxd00d: sure02:31
sizzam:-)02:31
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135702:31
profoX`you write the same thing always, is it benefits, or benifits02:31
Disastormcan someone help me my x server broke and now it says "fatal server error no screens found"02:31
profoX`I thought it was benEfits02:31
weirdois that permanent?02:31
Ademanlinuxd00d: of course, you just need the KDE libraries, which if you install a KDE program through apt-get should install by defaults02:31
profoX`but english is not my native lang02:31
lupine_85disastorm: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:32
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Disastormthanks02:32
jwisewhy has the buggy xserver-xorg-core not been removed from the update stack?02:32
linuxd00djrip: i was pretty convinced it did, but i wasnt to sure if it run all KDE platform02:32
profoX`Disastorm: type in terminal: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:32
profoX`jwise: ( yea it annoys me too )02:32
linuxd00dAdeman: cheers :)02:32
Georgefor some reason mplayer is complaining that xvideo isn't present when xdpyinfo says it is02:32
jwisemy X is still hosed... i can run X, but Xgl is really messed up :(02:33
Georgeand thus won't use xv as its video output thing02:33
Disastormso that new version of the core is broken??02:33
profoX`jwise: Xgl is still a bit buggy anyway :)02:33
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AdemanprofoX`: haha, yeah i just spell checked it, should be better now, but you think I should try and use a thesaurus for the benefit words?02:33
profoX`Disastorm: seems like it !!02:33
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profoX`Ademan: I don't care :)02:33
jwiseprofoX`: it's worked BEAUTIFULLY for me for the last few months02:33
swarm_Hmmm.....02:33
swarm_Anyone know of a URL with info on how to dialup on boot?02:34
AdemanprofoX`: well, I want people to like it and believe in it02:34
profoX`jwise: you use the compiz or compiz-quinn ?02:34
jwisecompiz02:34
sethkjwise, it's foolish to upgrade, just because there is an upgrade, when everything is working perfectly for you02:34
swarm_There is a script in rc5, but I do not know how to configure it, and am not seeing any documentation02:34
profoX`Ademan: I would sign it, I mean I don't care about the spelling (mistakes)02:34
Disastormso is it going to come up again and ask me to upgrade it but i just shouldnt upgrade?02:34
jwisesethk: wha?02:34
sethkjwise, sorry, wrong nic02:35
deltabAdeman: does Dell have a contract with Microsoft that requires them to pay for Windows on every machine, whether included or not?02:35
jwiseah02:35
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lupine_85swarm: you can just add a command for 'pon', if everything's configured properly?02:35
jwisedeltab: most likely02:35
dravasI just installed Compiz and now what do I do02:35
Ademandeltab: no clue, i doubt it because they do offer red hat on their servers02:35
profoX`Ademan: However, I would make a small text and put that in bold, where you state in short what the request is for, and then in normal font the full text02:35
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Ademanthey probably have a committment to buy a certain amount of licenses though02:36
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Disastormthanks guys i can startx again!02:36
profoX`Ademan: and I would use empty lines between the paragraphs instead of the spaces in front of it.02:36
dravas!compiz02:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:36
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deltabAdeman: are those systems cheaper if configured with the same hardware options?02:36
eXistenZWhat is the best burning software in gnome02:36
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Ademandeltab: the linux systems?02:36
deltabyes02:36
lupine_85gnomebaker02:36
AdemaneXistenZ: I like graveman02:36
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deltabI've heard that they are more expensive02:36
profoX`eXistenZ: I would say K3B :P02:36
eXistenZAdeman, better than nero?02:36
profoX`(yea, even in GNOME)02:37
lupine_85..."in gnome"02:37
sethkdeltab, that is sometimes true, yes02:37
profoX`k3b runs in GNOME doesn't it02:37
AdemaneXistenZ: graveman isnt pretty but it works great02:37
AdemanprofoX`: yep02:37
sethkdeltab, because red hat isn't free02:37
bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp302:37
wolfmanzanyone got any idea why after i install kubuntu and update it the xserver wont start up?02:37
eXistenZI see02:37
lupine_85yes, but all the extra libraries aren't worth it for one package02:37
Ademandeltab: hrm, I couldn't really tell you02:37
lupine_85wolfmanz: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:37
profoX`eXistenZ: there is also nerolinux if you want to buy it02:37
Ademanthat could be a large barrier however02:37
eXistenZprofoX`, Is it good02:37
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profoX`eXistenZ: I don't use that :) I use K3B02:37
lupine_85k3b rocks ;)02:37
deltabbigmarCus_: did smbmount work?02:38
Ademanthe KDE project got something right!!!02:38
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eXistenZprofoX`, I see02:38
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lupine_85k3b++02:38
bigmarCus_deltab: wasnt a valid command02:38
profoX`k3b is for KDE initially, but if you don't mind some extra kde libs, it will run fine in GNOME02:38
lupine_85kopete++02:38
band-aidcan anyone give me a step by step to dual boot XP and linux using grub?02:38
lupine_85kmail--02:38
profoX`Ademan: please spare me your kde comments :) i like kde alot myself02:38
AdemanprofoX`: sorry02:38
lupine_85band-aid: the installer should have set it up automagically?02:38
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band-aidIt didn't02:39
weirdowhoo finally02:39
band-aidIt just partitioned the drive and installed02:39
band-aidIt told me to restart02:39
band-aidand I did02:39
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band-aidand it didn't work02:39
Ademanits probably because i started with GNOME, installed kubuntu on my mom's computer, and had a hell of a time re-learning everything i knew how to do in gnome02:39
band-aidbooted right to XP02:39
profoX`Ademan: I once was a KDE evangelist ;) but now I realized both are cool in their own way, and they're both bloated :)02:39
AdemanFLUXBOX!!!!02:39
kaotyar!02:39
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weirdono gui is the best gui02:40
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profoX`fluxbox is just a wm.. can't really compare that to kde or gnome02:40
profoX`i use fluxbox for my games though02:40
profoX`it saves on RAM :)02:40
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AdemanprofoX`: yeah true02:40
kaotprofoX`: I've got a perl script the fires up a naked X server for playing games.02:40
lupine_85k, then see the example /boot/grub/menu.lst here: http://www.antlinux.com/lifebook/menu.lst02:40
kaots/the/that/02:40
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Ademanit was amazing with Damn small linux on my anchient computer (300 mhz) fluxbox, even running off of a live cd, TORE ASS02:41
profoX`kaot: yea well, I got a bash script for that :P02:41
lupine_85you just want to copy out the section marked "For Windows NT or 95"02:41
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lupine_85and paste it (as root) into your /boot/grub/menu.lst02:41
wizardanyone having sound issues after that xorg deal?02:41
profoX`kaot: not that hard, right? something like X -ac :1 & DISPLAY=:1 fluxbox02:41
kaot"tore ass" means something completely different in my lexicon02:41
lupine_85assuming your windows partition is /dev/hda, you're set02:41
lupine_85otherwise edit the (hd0,1)  line accordingly02:41
kaotprofoX`: well, it's also got a little menu when you fire it up, where you can pick which game you're gonna play and whatnot02:42
profoX`kaot: reason I run a wm (fluxbox) there because I like to play some games windowed, or I want to load a terminal/browser in background02:42
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profoX`kaot: oh, like Xgame ?02:42
lupine_85(e.g. /dev/hdxy == (hdnum(x),y)02:42
kaotyeh that's what it is in fact02:42
toddobryanCould someone help me set up a printer?02:42
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profoX`lupine_85: almost02:42
toddobryanI'm trapped in a Windows world...02:42
kaot(I didn't say I wrote it  :\  )02:42
lupine_85yeah, I was just thinking...02:42
lupine_85grub offsets the second from 0 as well02:43
wizardso no to windoze02:43
profoX`/dev/hdxy = (hdnum(x-1),y-1)02:43
lupine_85so 0,1 is actually /dev/hda202:43
lupine_85well spotted :)02:43
profoX`yea02:43
profoX`:)02:43
wolfmanzlupine_85: after doing that command you gave me can i then update ubuntu and should i leave the xorg update checked off?02:43
profoX`kaot: oh lol ;)02:43
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profoX`kaot: I never tried it.. I like to do it my own way :P02:43
weirdoradeon driver DRI is only 2d acceleration right?02:43
lupine_85wolfmanz: probably not02:43
profoX`weirdo: wrong02:43
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weirdono?02:43
wizardonly one that needs windows is bill gates02:43
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profoX`weirdo: radeon + dri = full 3d acceleration :)02:43
Warboweirdo: On a lot of newer cards yes. On my card I get accelerated 3D02:44
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Warbo(Radeon 9200)02:44
weirdoi have an rs30002:44
lupine_85if you do it in synaptic or adept, you can choose to preview changes then re-deselect the xorg package again02:44
weirdo9100 igp02:44
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erdrickWarbo: you have a radeon 9200??02:44
weirdocant get fglrx to work02:44
profoX`weirdo: well I was thinking about older cards, because on a newer card you're better off with fglrx (proprietary driver)02:44
WarboProblem is, alpha is not accelerated02:44
Warboerdrick: yes02:44
profoX`on my 7500 it works with 3D accel with radeon+dri anyway02:44
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weirdocause im trying to get xgl/compiz to work02:45
ardchoillelupine_85: Seems a few people filed the same bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715302:45
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nannosomeone please REMOVE the xserver-xorg-core package from updates! it crashes xorg!02:45
weirdowell it works.. just laggy02:45
profoX`nanno: we know..02:45
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sethknanno, yes, we know02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85: do they plan on fixing this so we can get that updated xorg?02:45
weirdoand i get like 1386fps in gnome02:45
nanno:D02:45
erdrickWarbo: i got the driver installed but could you tell me how to get OpenGL to use the fglrx driver instead of the mesa ones02:45
WarboCompiz is a no-no on DRI for me (alpha is used heavily, which makes it damn slow)02:45
profoX`nanno: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:45
haasteemhi, is it still possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the update manager?02:45
sethkremember my motto, don't upgrade for no reason.02:45
lupine_85I don't think any developers are awake right now02:45
profoX`weirdo: I get like 1800 with my radeon 750002:45
blockycan someone reccommend a good video editor that could be used to join 2 avi files02:45
lupine_85there's a bug report, though, so no doubt it'll be fixed asap02:45
Warboerdrick: I can't get fglrx to work. That is why I use DRI02:45
weirdodid you try xgl/compiz?02:45
Ademan**(I would appreciate some more eyes checking this out)** I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135902:45
lupine_85...before the big morning upgrade, hopefully!02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85:  cool02:45
nannoprofoX`, yeah i know i fixed it but im sure a lot of people are going to have a headache with this since it will kill their X server ;)02:45
haasteem!hoary02:45
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85: thanks for the info02:46
profoX`nanno: yea i know.. im pissed too..02:46
haasteem!upgrade02:46
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.02:46
erdrickWarbo: will that let me play games ?02:46
Warboweirdo: If you look on the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com I have left a few extra instructions if you want to follow the forum guide it links to02:46
haasteemhmm... so i guess yes02:46
profoX`nanno: this should never have happened if you test the software before you release02:46
nannoprofoX`, but glad to know people know about this already... although i just updated cache and its still there :(02:46
Warboerdrick: DRI accelerates 3D, but not alpha (transparency), so it depends on the game02:46
profoX`nanno: i'm pretty pissed about this bug.. i hope theres a good explanation for it slipping in02:46
nannoprofoX`, aye... im sure there is not :)02:47
sethkprofoX`, somebody made a mistake.  It happens02:47
erdrickWarbo: world of warcraft and halflife 2 mostly02:47
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gnomefreakwhat bug?02:47
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sethkthat's why I always wait a few days before upgrading when something is released02:47
sethkeveryone should02:47
nannognomefreak, dont update xserver-xorg-core or you wont have X... that bug :)02:47
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Singkong2005Hi, can someone help me? I installed TEA text editor and it shows as installed in Syn Package Manager but I can't find how to run it.02:47
profoX`Warbo: dont know what that means, but AIGLX runs fine (very fast! even with video playback) on my ati radeon 7500 (radeon+dri)02:47
Warboerdrick: They are a little newer than stuff I have tried. Actually I only have one non-Free game on Ubuntu, and that doesn't work02:47
gnomefreaknanno: ah yes X in dapper02:47
crimsunthat patch is direct from upstream, btw.02:47
WarboprofoX`: AIGLX runs fine for me, but not Compiz02:48
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gnomefreaknanno: it will be fixed i would say by late tomorrow02:48
profoX`Warbo: no problems here02:48
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profoX`Warbo: I run aiglx + compiz on my radeon 750002:48
Warbo(I had to run AIGLX instead of Xorg for a while until I fixed Xorg)02:48
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KrankilyAnyone familiar with the xserver-xorg.core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 update? It seems to have hose my install?02:48
lupine_85singkong: get a list of the files that were installed by the package (one of the tabs or buttons), work out which one is the binary, and run that (with full path) in a terminal02:49
profoX`gnomefreak: direct from upstream, what does that mean ?02:49
nannognomefreak, too bad it can't be fixed now by just removing the update02:49
weirdoWarbo: wow.. seems like a lot of work if something goes wrong02:49
profoX`Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:49
sethkKrankily, yes, it's been happening to everyone02:49
profoX`Krankily: theres already a bug report02:49
weirdoWarbo: from the looks of the main page02:49
nannoprofoX`, probably direct from xorg :)02:49
gnomefreaknanno: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download and install the old version02:49
profoX`nanno: oh.. well.. i'm NOT happy with it ._.02:49
lupine_85evil people that they are ;)02:49
dravas!nvidia02:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:49
nannognomefreak, no no.. i meant removing it from the repos02:49
gnomefreaksethk: not everyone :) it didnt bother my dapper02:49
KrankilyI'll have to install it again and just avoid the update02:50
Warboweirdo: Basically you need to downgrade the driver modules, otherwise Xorg complains about incompatible versions. Took me a while to figure out the cause (although with the recent Xorg update you may have problems anyway :) )02:50
lupine_85quick, let's all start using "that other X server"!02:50
sethkgnomefreak, well, many people02:50
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Singkong2005lupine: how do I find the full path?02:50
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sethkgnomefreak, I haven't installed it, so it didn't bother me at all02:50
weirdoWarbo: i had that trouble today02:50
profoX`gnomefreak: easier is to: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 :)02:50
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lupine_85it'll be in the file list02:50
gnomefreakprofoX`: there are alot of ways to do it :)02:50
KrankilyI'll assume one can't downgrade the update?02:50
McJerrywhat wireless pcmcia card works easiest and best with ubuntu on a laptop02:50
profoX`gnomefreak: yea but mine's easier :P02:50
sethkSingkong2005, if you know the file name you can search for it by name also02:50
lupine_85don't use synaptic so can't help any further02:50
nannoKrankily, it can easily be downgraded02:51
profoX`Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:51
profoX`Krankily: that will downgrade the package02:51
Singkong2005lupine: you mean a file list on the program's website?02:51
Warboweirdo: I saw it in the updates, but since I use a load of external repositories I didn't want to risk installing a non-Ubuntu version of such an important package. Turns out it IS an Ubuntu package, but a broken one02:51
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lupine_85no, in synaptic02:51
Krankilyah, same update, different location?02:51
weirdoWarbo: so much for keeping up to date02:51
nannolupine_85, yes.. highlight xserver-xorg-core and go to force version02:51
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sethkSingkong2005, try lupine_85's suggestion.  If you don't get anywhere with it, you can dump the entire file system in date order and look at files that changed recently; it will be one of them02:52
profoX`gnomefreak: shouldn't the maintainers that package everything for dapper check whether it works or not?02:52
nannolupine_85, package -> force version02:52
sethkprofoX`, of course, but it doesn't fail in all cases02:52
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KrankilyMine does not get to grub, so I'll just do a reinstall. :)02:52
lupine_85nanno: we're after a list of files installed by a particular package in synaptic02:52
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gnomefreakprofoX`: they test it yes. and as it didnt affect me it might not of affected them02:52
Warboweirdo: I have finally bought into the idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thankfully on the day where "fixing" it breaks it02:52
nannolupine_85, aha... sorry02:52
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profoX`sethk: I understand, but this bug seems to affect everyone, atleast I thought that02:52
lupine_85adept has it, and I vaguely remember it from my gnome days02:52
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Singkong2005lupine: looks like just tea and tea-data. can't see a full path.02:52
profoX`gnomefreak: oh it didnt affect you..02:53
gnomefreaknope02:53
lupine_85then just try running 'tea'02:53
blamelessso, i used software update to update my x11 and now all i get is No Devices Found in the xorg output.  any suggestions?02:53
sethkprofoX`, I don't know exactly why  it affects some, but not others02:53
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WarboCan anyone test xteddy, since it doesn't work for me on Xorg or AIGLX?02:53
sethkprofoX`, but it wasn't simply a case of not testing the package02:53
bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp302:53
helmetis anybody have problems with th ipw3945 dirvers?02:53
profoX`gnomefreak: sethk: ok.. then I'm not so mad anymore.. :)02:53
sethkprofoX`, not testing it enough?  obviously, but mistakes happen.02:53
Singkong2005lupine: did that, (tried to run tea in terminal) doesn't recognise it02:53
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nannoblameless: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:53
gnomefreakprofoX`: it could be as little as a typo02:53
KrankilyIt does install pretty quickly though02:53
lupine_85try slocate / | grep tea02:53
swarm_How do I configure ppp_on_boot?02:54
sethkSingkong2005, lupine_85 if he just installed, slocate won't find it02:54
KrankilyAlso, how large a swap file would I want for 1 gig of ram?02:54
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Phlostenthis seems to be the place for brokened xservers02:54
sethkSingkong2005, if it is called tea, you can use:   find / -name tea02:54
WarboKrankily: 1GB? Maybe none at all02:54
lupine_85oh yeah, it's database-driver02:54
McJerrywhat wifi pcmcia card works best under ubuntu?02:54
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sethkSingkong2005, if it isn't called tea, and you can't find the installed file list, do a reverse time ordered ls of the common locations for programs02:54
KrankilySo far I have a 1gb swap, 24g / and 24g home02:54
sethkSingkong2005, if that doesn't work, do a reverse time order dump of the entire file system02:54
lupine_85McJerry; check the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported02:55
blamelessthanks, i will try that02:55
Singkong2005I installed a few days ago - found something02:55
sethkSingkong2005, the entire root tree, actually, which may be several file systems02:55
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profoX`sethk: everything can't be tested on every machine, i know.. especially not with this rapidly evolving open source software.. but it's going to be a major pain for some people that are updating anyway. Why doesn't the repo get a fix so there won't be more people that get the problem?02:55
gnomefreakok time for bed night02:55
sethkSingkong2005, if you installed a few days ago, hopefully locate will find it for you02:55
XenguySingkong2005: dpkg -L tea   ?02:55
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profoX`gnomefreak: night02:55
McJerrylupine_85 tx02:55
sethkprofoX`, I suspect because it's the middle of the night where the developer is02:55
Singkong2005what'd dpkg do?02:55
lupine_85np02:55
ZonoidI need help partitioning. Should I be able to install Ubuntu without damaging Windows by installing it on the "pri/log" partition?02:55
Singkong2005(slocate is still listing files... lots of them)02:55
lupine_85atheros gets a good rep02:56
sethkSingkong2005, no, you do:   locate tea02:56
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bigmarCus_Warbo: you still around?02:56
sethkSingkong2005, is it listing files with tea in the name?02:56
Singkong2005yes02:56
XenguySingkong2005: that lists the files in any given package (if that is in fact what you're after)02:56
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WarboZonoid: If Windows is your only partition then shrink it "maybe defrag it first) and let the Ubuntu installer use the free space02:56
WarbobigmarCus_: nope02:56
lupine_85xenguy: much better solution :)02:56
bigmarCus_Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp302:56
Xenguyheh02:56
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ZonoidWarbo: The partition says, "pri/log   3.7 GB   FREE SPACE"02:56
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WarbobigmarCus_: I am terrible with networking, sorry. And I have never used Samba02:56
bigmarCus_Warbo: ok02:57
WarboZonoid: "Free Space"? That should be fine02:57
ZonoidWarbo: Okay. Thanks.02:57
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profoX`sethk: (I would think more people would have access to change it) but anyway.. let's just hope not too many people get affected by the problem (I'm imagining people new to linux that cant get X up anymore and will reinstall ubuntu, or install something else instead)02:57
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Singkong2005thanks Xenguy - the dpkg command gave a tidy little list. Is it "/usr/share/doc/tea" that I want?02:58
sethkprofoX`, true, but one should get into the habit of not installing things the moment they are released.02:58
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?02:58
sethkSingkong2005, no02:58
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profoX`sethk: like I said, people new to linux :)02:58
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop 6.06 because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?02:58
MetaMorfoziSis there aprogram that can be triggered and it turns on and or off xmms02:58
ardchoilleprofoX`: Even if they re-install Ubuntu, the xserver-xorg-core package will be taken from the repos, and that package is currently broken. So, people who install Ubuntu today may be screwed before they can even use their box.02:59
MetaMorfoziS?02:59
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ZonoidI'm creating the partitions :-). I can't wait to use Ubuntu!02:59
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profoX`ardchoille: which will make them switch to something else for sure (if they can't figure out how to fix it)02:59
MetaMorfoziSardchoille: and who upgraded today, have a broken system?02:59
sethkMetaMorfoziS, xmms is a program.  so I don't get the question02:59
XenguySingkong2005: yw - I'm not exactly sure what you want tho :-)02:59
KrankilyIf reinstalling and the partitions are set correctly, do I just install over them?02:59
profoX`MetaMorfoziS: not Everyone, but alot of people03:00
sethkKrankily, ye03:00
MetaMorfoziSsethk i need an other program that controls xmms03:00
ardchoilleprofoX`: good point03:00
sethkKrankily, yes03:00
MetaMorfoziSby time03:00
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?03:00
Krankilycool, thanks03:00
MetaMorfoziSprofoX`: it's cool.03:00
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sethkMetaMorfoziS, cron can do things for you on a schedule03:00
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MetaMorfoziSi need a guied ver:D03:00
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:00
sethkMetaMorfoziS, the "at" shell command can start a program at a particular time03:00
sethkmust be a gui front end to cron around03:00
h00ti cannot play any movie ... not in "movie player" or "vlan" or "flix" ... the movies just start and then the whole program quits.... can someone help me03:00
Singkong2005Xenguy, sethk: I want to run the "tea" program.03:01
sethkSingkong2005, yes, I know.  I've given you several suggestions on how to find the program , and the program name if necessary03:01
MetaMorfoziSthx...03:01
eternalswdI believe gschedule is the gtk frontend to cron03:01
profoX`h00t: try to use a different video output in the settings of vlc or Mplayer or xine (like xv, x11, gl, gl2..) does that help?03:01
ardchoillesethk: xterm makes a nice gui front-end to cron ;)03:01
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, What video driver are you using?03:01
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Warbo!info gnome-schedule03:01
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:01
ubotugnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB03:01
XenguySingkong2005: what output does this give: dpkg -L tea |grep bin03:01
LinuxHelpwhats the binary that returns the number of lines passed to it through stdin?03:01
Xenguy?03:01
cafuegoLinuxHelp: wc03:02
LinuxHelpk03:02
Dartrunner_Hello, I just installed ubuntu and let it update, rebooted and now I am getting "Fatal server error: no screens found" when X is starting03:02
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sethkardchoille, that's true03:02
profoX`Dartrunner: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
cafuegoLinuxHelp: Specifically, 'wc -l'03:02
profoX`Dartrunner: bug is already filed.03:02
Corporal_DirgeDartrunner, You need to configure xorg.conf03:02
h00tCorporal_Dirge: ... i installed nvidia driver w/ "easy ubuntu"03:02
profoX`Dartrunner_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
Dartrunner_kk thanks03:02
sethkif there is an op here, put that apt-get command, for backing out the bad patch, in the channel topic03:02
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:03
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Singkong2005Xenguy: "/usr/bin" and "/usr/bin/teaed"03:03
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Make sure it's selected in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:03
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XenguySingkong2005: if there is a '/usr/bin/tea', then that would likely be it03:03
Singkong2005Aha! Tea is running!03:03
h00twhat do you mean ... selected...03:03
weirdowhat is tea?03:04
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BrandonTheBlackso nobody can help me with my problem?03:04
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profoX`weirdo: something to drink03:04
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weirdolol the running kind03:04
profoX`BrandonTheBlack: I don't understand03:04
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, make sure there's a device that's using that as it's option. "nvidia"03:04
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sethkSingkong2005, teaed sounds like a daemon for tea03:04
eternalswdBrandonTheBlack, is the problem that it can't boot from the DVD drive?03:04
sethkSingkong2005, try running it03:04
profoX`BrandonTheBlack: why do you need to mount your dvd drive to install ubuntu?03:04
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BrandonTheBlacketernal: it boots, loads the installer, then tells me it cant mount the drive03:05
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sethkhe means that the install fails at the mounting cd/dvd point03:05
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Corporal_Dirgeh00t, in the terminal type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:05
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sethkBrandonTheBlack, you can try running the install with dma for the drives disabled03:05
deltabhow is the drive connected?03:05
BrandonTheBlacksethk, i dont know what that means lol03:06
BrandonTheBlackdeltab: its an ide drive03:06
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hovinenAnyone here know about the problem with the latest update to xserver-xorg-core on Dapper?03:06
sethkBrandonTheBlack, at the boot prompt, hit f1 and read all the help03:06
h00ti see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver03:06
deltabBrandonTheBlack: that :-)03:06
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h00tCorporal_Dirge: i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver03:06
Singkong2005Xenguy, sethk, lupine_85: Thanks heaps! I'm going to try and set it up on my panel now so I can launch it easily.03:06
sethkh00t, yes, nv is the open source nvidia driver03:06
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?03:06
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XenguySingkong2005: yw03:06
wikijeffI'm having a problem, I think it's specific to OpenOffice, but I'm not sure, where I'll be typing along and suddenly it will randomly paste in some text which I guess I may have come across in firefox. I can't see any pattern in so far as when it happens, but it always happens when I'm typing in OpenOffice.03:06
KrankilyWhat is the latest nvidia driver, btw?03:06
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Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Try the nVidia driver and see if that works better.03:07
reikiProblem: tried to run Synaptic. Password prompt came up. Entered sudo password. Synaptic did not start. No error displayed. Now I can't get it to display pasword prompt. Synaptic appears to be non-functional. help please03:07
eternalswdhovinen, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:07
deltabwikijeff: is it text you've selected?03:07
BlueEaglewikijeff: laptop?03:07
h00tso the 'promise' of "easy ubuntu"  isn't to install proprietary but only generic driver ???03:07
wikijeffBlueEagle, yes a laptop03:07
hovineneternalswd, Thanks. I did so.03:07
noddabaJust installed dapper, and the fonts in the Firefox menubar are aliased (un-antialiased?).  I put gAIM's menu up against Firefox's menu, took a screenshot and zoomed in.  Sure enough Firefox fonts are not being smoothed.  anyone have any ideas?03:07
wikijeffdeltab, it may have been at one point03:07
sizzamreiki: do this from a command line:   ps -ef|grep synaptic03:07
erdrickhow can you tell if the person you are looking for is on or not03:08
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hovinenAny word on when this update will get fixed?03:08
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, When installing an OSS OS it prefers all OSS software and drivers.03:08
profoX`h00t: easy ubuntu and automatix and that automatic stuff can't always be trusted03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: You might have defined a "middle mouse button" are of your touch pad that will paste when you accidentally brush against it.03:08
reiki!find libinklevel03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: I think it's most commonly placed in the top-right corner.03:08
ubotuPackage/file libinklevel does not exist in dapper03:08
wikijeffBlueEagle, that sounds possible, how can I disable it?03:08
reikisizzam: that command appears to indicate synaptic is not a running process03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: ie. try clicking the top-left of your touch pad to see if that functions as a middle mouse button (ie pastes)03:09
sizzamreiki: hmm, interesting03:09
h00tcan someone help me install proprietary driver03:09
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, I had to manually install lots of proprietary software by hand. But at least they let you make the choice to lock yourself into that system.03:09
BlueEaglewikijeff: Hmm.. not sure where to look for that setting. I'll do some googling for you.03:09
wikijeffBlueEagle: thanks03:09
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Dartrunner_profoX: thanks, worked great03:09
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profoX`Dartrunner_: you're welcome03:10
BlueEaglewikijeff: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ seems applicable but doesn't at first glance show how it's configured.03:10
jwiseargh... teaches me to use Xgl on ubuntu...03:10
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wolfmanzafter running easy ubuntu do you have to do anything special to activate the ati driver?03:10
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135703:11
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, just a second.03:11
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2903:11
weirdoi'm following this guide.. it's telling me to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:12
weirdois that going to upgrade the stupid xorg core again?03:12
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erdrickso is it spelled drapper or dapper?03:12
lastnodeerdrick, dapper03:12
BlueEaglewikijeff: Seems to be possible to comment out the event in /dev/input/event* but I'm not sure if that will work with udev03:12
ali1234TokenBad: is your homedir mounted?03:12
erdrickwow and all the problems and headachs i could have saved by figureing that out sooner03:12
BlueEaglewikijeff: You might also want to check your xorg.conf and perhaps trying to comment out the wacom devices in your server layout.03:13
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Corporal_Dirgeerdrick, http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=dapper03:13
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Corporal_DirgeInteresting name to say the least. =)03:13
h00twhy then would the damn movies not play ... they are in avi format BTW03:13
wikijeffBlueEagle: wacom devices in my server layout?03:13
profoX`h00t: no codecs maybe?03:14
h00thow do i install codex03:14
BlueEaglewikijeff: Yes. Did that sound greek to you? ;(03:14
profoX`h00t: did you install w32codecs and stuff like that?03:14
BlueEagle:)03:14
profoX`!w32codecs03:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:14
weirdoautomatix is good for auto installing codecs03:14
profoX`the first link there03:14
wikijeffBlueEagle: yes03:14
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Because even if everything else works, the video card needs the video stream in the right format.03:14
profoX`weirdo: please do NOT advise automatix.. I've had alot of people with problems because they used automatix!03:14
weirdoo03:15
profoX`(easy ubuntu is better, but I suggest you just follow the wiki when you need something)03:15
wikijeffBlueEagle: I'm familiar with xorg.conf, but not the wacom devices in my server layout part03:15
Corporal_DirgeI favor http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper becuase you pick and choose what to install one by one.03:15
BlueEaglewikijeff: if you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will see three sections called "InputDevice" that has got the wacom driver. They should be stylus, eraser and one more thing that I never remember. I am not sure but synaptic might be using those.03:15
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BlueEaglewikijeff: I for one have removed them from mine but they have been installed by default even on desktop systems.03:16
weirdomy laptop touchpad is fine if i remove all the wacom stuff03:16
profoX`weirdo: yea :) I don't know how it's going nowadays, but some of the most respected ubuntu developers advice you to not use automatix, so I think it's best to avoid it if possible03:16
BlueEaglewikijeff: As weirdo sais. His pad improved. It might be worth a shot.03:16
profoX`Corporal_Dirge: yea ubuntuguide used to be bad, but it's pretty good nowadays03:16
weirdoer not improved03:16
weirdono change03:17
Corporal_Dirgeweirdo, Because it's a script it doesn't handle errors properly and passes up needed steps.03:17
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visik7new xserver-xorg-core conflicts with my nvidia driver xorg doesn't start anymore03:17
foxjwillhow do i start apache on start-up?03:17
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profoX`Corporal_Dirge: for instance.. i also heard it modifies your sources.list in a very strange way03:17
wikijeffBlueEagle: the third one is cursor, I should get rid of all three sections?03:17
BlueEaglevisik7: Known bug. Workaround is to downgrade.03:17
profoX`visik7: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715803:17
visik7already downgraded03:18
BlueEaglehow come that bug isn't in topic btw?03:18
visik7do I need to hold the package ?03:18
profoX`BlueEagle: no op i think03:18
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profoX`visik7: you downgraded to ubuntu10 ? and you restarted X ?03:18
reiki!find libvye.so.403:18
Singkong2005Hi again... can someone tell me how I change keymapping? I'd like to link my Windows start key to the Applications menu.03:18
visik7yes now it works03:18
ubotuPackage/file libvye.so.4 does not exist in dapper03:18
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lupine_85ooh03:19
profoX`lupine_85: why don't you just improve the support in edgy to make more drivers work out of the box :) isn't that the same?03:19
weirdoya Singkong2005.. i was wondering the same t hing03:19
ali1234wikijeff: the touchpad is usually driven by the synaptics driver - not to be confused with the package manager tool. it looks like the only way to fix your problem is to disable tapping altogether03:19
lupine_85!find rt2570.ko03:19
BlueEaglevisik7:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715803:19
ubotuFile rt2570.ko found in linux-image-2.6.15-22-386, linux-image-2.6.15-22-686, linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server-bigiron03:19
reikianyone interpret this? d:/etc/apt$ sudo synaptic03:19
reikisynaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:19
profoX`reiki: did you get an update for libvte.so.4 and it broke synaptic ?03:19
lupine_85profox`: I've been trying :)03:19
profoX`reiki: u use xgl ?03:19
BlueEagleubotu: tell reiki about gksudo03:19
reikiprofoX`, not that I know of03:19
profoX`reiki: well, here's how to fix.. (hold on)03:20
reikiBlueEagle, good point03:20
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BlueEaglereiki: but that's not the cause of your error.03:20
lupine_85see http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 for improved support for four wlan cards03:20
profoX`reiki: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper03:20
lupine_85not to mention one config utility03:20
lupine_85added a note to launchpad about it today03:20
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BlueEaglereiki: The workaround I've recomended is to symlink /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 to point to /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.whateverisinstalled03:21
wikijeffOk, I turned off tapbutton2 and tapbutton3 and set MaxTapTime to 003:21
lupine_85but things like ndiswrapper and cards that require firmware are complete pains and impossible to do transparently using current procedures03:21
profoX`BlueEagle: yea but maybe it's better to downgrade the stuff to the default dapper stuff, he probably got the udpates from the compiz/xgl repository03:21
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reikithink compiz did this?03:22
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agneshey all!03:22
agnesI'm having a relatively serious problem with my Ubuntu..03:22
BlueEagleprofox`: Well xgl is fun. ;D03:22
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agnesI just ran the updates, which updated xserver-xorg03:22
profoX`reiki: therere was a problem in the compiz repository (if you use usp or compiz or xgl you might have gotten these updates) they have already been removed, but you have to downgrade if you have problems (or make the link that BlueEagle mentioned) or this: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper03:22
bimberiagnes: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:22
bimberiagnes: you're not alone03:23
profoX`agnes: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 03:23
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weirdois anyone gonna change the files at the repo?03:23
profoX`weirdo: I hope so ._.03:23
reikiprofoX`, thanks... I don't really use compiz any more. It was pretty and interesting but not very usweful :) I think I'll just remove it03:23
agnesbut now I get '(EE) No devices hmm.03:24
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BlueEagleweirdo: They will be changed when someone gets out of bed tomorrow and read the logs. :)03:24
agnesit says it can't find that version.03:24
agnesprofoX` if this is such a problem, why not take away the update?03:24
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bimberiprofoX`: that might happen03:24
agnesoops. forgot to add 'core'03:24
weirdolol03:24
BlueEagleagnes: The question should be how the update got there in the first place. :)03:24
weirdothey're still sleeping03:24
profoX`agnes: I'm not responsible for it...03:24
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janbananWhat is the XGL on ubuntu?03:25
BlueEagleubotu: tell janbanan about xgl03:25
weirdois everyone having problems with the xcore update? or just some/most ppl?03:25
BlueEaglejanbanan: in short: Eye candy03:25
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agnesBlueEagle well, I think it's OK for problems to happen.. but to perpetuate once reported? booo!03:25
BlueEagleweirdo: I haven't seen it in the norwegian mirror yet.03:25
profoX`BlueEagle: according to gnome-freak it was upstream, so its caused by xserver-xorg itself, not by the ubuntu patches/packagers03:25
janbananDoes it work with ATI graphics?03:25
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BlueEagleagnes: The people responsible need to sleep at times too.03:25
profoX`BlueEagle: I hope they will fix it soon, a bug is already reported03:25
profoX`janbanan: most ati graphics yes.03:26
janbanansweet03:26
agnesBlueEagle  : )03:26
profoX`janbanan: XGL is a hack on top of Xorg that uses OpenGL for drawing, in combination with a compositing wm like COmpiz you can get nifty effects, check www.youtube.com and search on "compiz" or "xgl" ;)03:26
agnesalright.. time to get back to X.. thank you.03:26
jordanaui have a legal question, i decrypted a enc_grouppwd for vpnc so i could log onto a server i am allowed to connect to, is that legal?03:27
BlueEagleprofox`: Well even if ti was a bug from xorg imo it should be tested with and without the patches before being released into the repos. That's just my opinion. Then again I don't mind waiting a week to be sure to get updates that don't break my system. :)03:27
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BlueEagleprofox`: That's just my opinion. I know people that are complaining that the current updates of the repos are too slow.03:27
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profoX`BlueEagle: I agree and thats my opinion too, but it seems like not Everyone has the problems.. gnome-freak said he didn't have the problem for example..03:27
BlueEaglejordanau: We are not lawyers. ;)03:27
BlueEaglejordanau: go to ask.slashdot.org :p03:28
janbananIs there any reason not to use the 64-bit version of dapper when i have 64-bit processor?03:28
profoX`janbanan: yes03:28
bruenigI just did an apt-get update and the xcore update appeared. Should I install it?03:28
profoX`janbanan: 64bit version will cause problems when you want to run certain 32bit codecs or when you want to run wine to run windows apps03:28
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profoX`janbanan: also no skype and flashplugin for 64bit among other things03:28
Tanker_1Noob needs help? I installed v5.10 of Ubunto and everything worked great I tried to upgrade to 6.06 LTS and now gnome wont start up, gives me a no screens found error, I've checked around on the net and found several pages but none that helped.03:28
BlueEaglejanbanan: lack of popular software for 64-bit processors is still an issue.03:28
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swarmjanbanan, I, too have a 64 bit processor, and was running 64...03:29
jordanauokay second question once i connect to a vpnd server what is the way to access the files on that server?03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: yea we know03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 03:29
swarmI find it to be a bit smoother and faster than 32-bit, but the software support is lacking03:29
swarmI could not get my modem to work in 64, after a few weeks of trying...03:29
Tanker_1phew! i thought it was something i did. :)03:29
janbananprofox: thanks03:29
Tanker_1thank you03:29
swarmso I switched back to 32 which recognized it instantly03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: big bug that slipped in through upstream :( we have to live with it until it gets fixed03:29
swarmI would switch back to 64 if my modem would work, though. it is smoother.03:29
profoX`janbanan: you're welcome03:30
justin_Tanker_1: As long as you do not fry your harddrive you always have a second chance :P03:30
profoX`Tanker_1: the command I gave you should fix it though03:30
janbananswarm: thanks mate03:30
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swarmNo problem, man03:30
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Tanker_1running it now thanks.03:30
Tanker_1last linux distro I played with was like redhat 6 or 7 :(03:31
zovirltonight I turned on my dapper machine & the wifi doesn't work.  nm-applet says "no network devices have been found"03:31
justin_Redhat.. no good :(03:31
zovirlI tried restarting the network, rebooting03:31
zovirlnothing helps03:31
justin_The only Linux I have stuck with is Ubuntu, usually im on OpenBSD.03:31
weirdotry clearing the device list?03:32
weirdoworked for me03:32
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Tanker_1unfortunately I got promoted to management and dont get to do the techie stuff, but a friend (one of my techs) talked me into going to linuxconf in sf the other day, I felt SOOO lost :(03:32
profoX`Tanker_1: redhat 7.3 .. i hated that one03:32
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weirdo/etc/network/interfaces03:33
profoX`justin_: openbsd as DESKTOP ? :)03:33
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profoX`i'd only take that for a desktop if i was really really paranoid about security03:33
zovirlweirdo: just throw it all away?03:33
paradizelosthey all, i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password03:33
paradizelostit's the saved password that was there before03:34
weirdowell before i couldnt get networkmanager to work03:34
BlueEagletanker_1: Does the management job keep you from having a hobby? :p03:34
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justin_profoX`: I am paranoid about security :D03:34
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weirdoi read that if there is stuff in the interfaces file then networkmanager wont touch the eth devices03:34
gpmhey, anyone know how to convert flash swf files to avi?03:34
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Tanker_1unfortunately i got addicted to Evercrack, then Warcrack :(03:34
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justin_Gpm, well I Know how to convert FLV to MPG.. but swf to avi.. not sure03:34
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justin_try / ffmpeg -i filename.swf -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 output.mpg/avi03:35
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bruenigSo install the xserver update or don't install the xserver update, what is the recommendation there.03:36
rummikhey, what happened to msttcorefonts?03:37
ardchoillebruenig: if you install it, you'll have to revert and the update will be back in the update list03:37
BHSPitLappyrummik, it's not there?03:37
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justin_bruenig: Is your Xserver working?, is there an exploit ?03:37
rummikBHSPitLappy: nope03:37
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bruenigardchoille, alright seems like a pretty clear no03:37
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BHSPitLappyrummik, looks like it is to me.03:38
rummikBHSPitLappy: i already did 'sudo apt-get update'03:38
gpmcompresseed swf format not supported :(03:38
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lostincIs there a significant change when I change kernels from the i386 default kernel to the K7 kernel that lists the Sempron processor?03:38
BHSPitLappyrummik, maybe you have repo issues.03:38
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paradizelosti had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password03:38
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Tanker_1profoX - Thank you, its back up and running.03:38
rummikBHSPitLappy: on my laptop it says i have the latest version, on my desktop i didn't have it, so it's not letting me get it03:38
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justin_gpm, Yeah that is what I thought... I do not think you can change SWF to AVI.. well you possibly can but I think you are going to have to do a lot of google searching, or download something for windows - there tends to be more software on windows for that type of stuff03:39
profoX`Tanker_1: no problem. :)03:39
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deXtrezzahey does anyone know if it's possible to view hdd's that are ntfs?03:39
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paradizelostdeXtrezza: yes03:39
profoX`deXtrezza: what do you mean with view? browse them? sure03:39
deXtrezzahow do i go about doing that?03:39
paradizelost!ntfs03:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:39
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natural20can anyone help me install vassal on breezy?03:39
lupine_85lostinc: not really03:39
weirdowhat's ur address03:40
weirdolol03:40
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lupine_85a few optimisations that may or may not speed your computer up a bit03:40
profoX`deXtrezza: manually mount: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only03:40
profoX`deXtrezza: on boot up: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only03:40
lostincSo I guess what is the point of all the kernel versions then?03:40
paradizelostdeXtrezza: read is possible, write is very iffy and not recommended03:40
swarmjesus. Everyone posts threads online about making it NOT autoconnect on startup, but no info on how to make it connect on startup... I have even read those threads to try to modify it backwards. Nothing03:40
profoX`write will come in half a year for sure if you ask me..03:41
profoX`ntfs-3g looks promising03:41
deXtrezzahmm i see, so fat32 overall is recommended03:41
kitchelostinc the point of all the kernel versions is more hardware supported or bug fixes03:41
lostincI see.03:41
paradizelostswarm: what are you trying to have connect automatically?03:41
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profoX`deXtrezza: or just plain ext3 / reiser4 / whatever instead of fat32/ntfs :)03:41
zarstarhola03:41
paradizelostwireless?03:41
swarmdialup.03:41
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swarmsimple ole dialup03:41
bruenigthis is probably an anomaly but does anyone know why a single key on the keyboard would stop working but then after a restart would work again?03:41
lostincI plan to start using the i686 kernel since I have read that even though I have a AMD Sempron I would be better off with the i68603:41
deXtrezza;p i see new to me03:41
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paradizelostahh. k. don't ask me.  i haven't used that in years03:42
paradizelostand never on linux03:42
paradizelostdo you have a script that connects?03:42
rummikBHSPitLappy: should i try installing it again tomorrow?03:42
zarstarI've I little problem with ubuntu network (wireless) ....can anyone help me?03:42
paradizelostif u do, just add that to a startup script03:42
paradizelostzarstar: what's the issue?03:42
BHSPitLappyrummik, I don't think that would help03:42
paradizelost!ask03:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:42
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swarmwvdial connects it03:42
zarstar:) tnx03:42
natural20seriously.  I'm a complete idiot; can't do a damn thing with linux.  I need some help installing vassal.  Please?03:42
zarstari've just install'd UBUNTU03:43
BHSPitLappyrummik, does your Synaptic work at all?03:43
paradizelostswarm: all you type is wvdial?03:43
swarmyes.03:43
Noah0504I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a Broadcom card :)03:43
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zarstarand I've setted up the network03:43
eternalswddo the commands for changing time zone explained at http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html apply to dapper?03:43
vikJust set up ubuntu-server on an old laptop, but the network has stopped working. It was working on a previous install of ubuntu. PCCard is recognised, module gets loaded, but 'ifup eth0' gives 'no such device'03:43
rummikBHSPitLappy: yeah, i'll go try that03:43
cafuegoNothing wrong with broadcom (these days)03:43
justin_Hmm, KDE is not as bad as it used to be...03:43
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justin_It's doesnt feel like it takes up the whole screen anymore yay..03:44
zarstari can do pings but te browser doesn't visualizes the web pages!!!03:44
Noah0504cafuego: Well, I had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working.  It wasn't hard though.03:44
glyphriderI just updated xorg-server on a dapper install and now X won't startup....  Anyone else seen this?03:44
paradizelostswarm: you should be able to add it to the /etc/rc.local script, or possibly someplace else if there's a better place to put startup stuff that someone can recommend03:44
cafuegoNoah0504: The 4318 and 4306 work OK now with the free driver + firmware.03:44
paradizelostzarstar: sounds like a DNS issue03:44
eternalswdglyphrider, it's a known bug, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:44
paradizelostcan you ping something like www.google.com or just an IP?03:44
lostincI have a built in SD card reader on my IC Power laptop. When I had Windows XP Home installed it detected it auto but nothing in linux. Can someone help me or point me to a site that might help me out.03:44
zarstarI thought the same..03:44
zarstari can ping www.google.com03:45
rummikBHSPitLappy: i searched for msttcore fonts on it, and got openoffice.org as the only package listed03:45
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paradizelostzarstar: then it's not dns03:45
zarstaror www.google.it03:45
rummikBHSPitLappy:*msttcorefonts03:45
zarstarso it's not DNS!03:45
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zarstarisn't it?03:45
paradizelostzarstar: what's the browse3r?03:45
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zarstarfirefox03:45
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lostincAre the msttcorefonts legal without a copy of Windows?03:45
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paradizelostcan you do about:mozilla03:45
Noah0504cafuego: Yeah, I have the 4318 card.  I actually just used a script I found on the fourms.  It set up ndiswrapper... not sure what else it did.03:45
lostincLegal as in the USA03:45
BHSPitLappyrummik, do you have multiverse enabled?03:46
zarstarmozilla firefox03:46
justin_lostinc: Probably illegal, however you will not be sued over "fonts" - unless you plan to make a big profit on them03:46
zovirlweirdo: that worked, thanks!03:46
weirdonp03:46
zarstarthe browser included by Ubuntu 6.06.103:46
lostincVery true justin_03:46
bruenigIf they know the new xserver update is flawed or what not. Why do they not pull it from the repos?03:46
cafuegolostinc: The versions in the package are, MS released them. (They changed their mind later, but the original release is of course still valid :-)03:46
glyphriderThanks; downgrading now....03:46
rummikBHSPitLappy: multiverse?03:46
paradizelostk. can you go to 64.236.29.12003:46
zarstarehm03:46
justin_lostinc: For personal use, you can use fonts for whatever you like - I mean.. they are simply shapes03:46
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BHSPitLappyrummik, yeah, the multiverse and universe repos.03:46
justin_lol03:46
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zarstarI'll try, wait a sec :P03:46
BHSPitLappy!multiverse03:46
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:46
zarstar(I'm on another pc!)03:47
BHSPitLappyrummik, ^03:47
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Lingo!easysource03:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:47
BHSPitLappyrummik, ^ too03:47
BHSPitLappy:P03:47
zarstarputting 64.236.29.120 in the browser?03:47
paradizelostyes03:47
Lingo!ubotu03:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:47
rummikBHSPitLappy: lol03:47
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eternalswdhow do I check if something is linked to a specific location?03:48
vikany ideas what would be causing 'no such device' errors when trying to bring up a network interface?03:48
justin_lostinc: Anyways do as you will with fonts - simply do not sell them as your own, or use them in big for profit projects and you will be find.03:48
paradizelostvik - the driver isn't loaded03:48
lostincjustin_ Yes I understand that. As a web developer switching over to solely linux I am sometimes hesitant to use anything microsoft since they once audited my computers as a business they thought I didn't have a license and well guess what I did. It made me really made with MS.03:48
paradizelostor the device doesn't exist03:48
vikparadizelost: the kernel module is loaded03:48
paradizelostdo an ifconfig -a03:48
paradizelostdoes it show up there?03:49
lostincWill be right back must reboot into the i686 kernel now.03:49
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justin_lostinc: F ms.03:49
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rummikBHSPitLappy: all i know is i have the settings from when i put ubuntu on this computer yesterday, maybe a couple extra games and flash player...but that's to be expected :P03:49
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vikparadizelost: interesting - eth1 appears there. But no eth003:49
BHSPitLappyrummik, look at those things.03:49
justin_If MS is going to sue someone over "fonts" that is really really sad.03:49
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bruenigms should sue linux. they do implement the double click without permission03:49
rummikBHSPitLappy: yup03:49
BHSPitLappyrummik, enabling those repositories is one of the first steps you should do.03:50
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paradizelostbruenig: don't give them any ideas03:50
BHSPitLappyjustin_, those are publicly released fonts.03:50
glyphriderMy X has returned to life; thanks to all.03:50
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cafuegobruenig: They can't, Apple used it before they did.03:50
BHSPitLappysue "linux"? like, sue the kernel?03:50
rummikBHSPitLappy: oh, i see03:50
rummikBHSPitLappy: user submitted stuff ^_^03:50
deXtrezzahow do i install something as root, i couldn't install my nvidia driver03:50
paradizelostdeXtrezza: sudo command03:51
wikijeffWhat determines which website icons are displayed in the Bookmarks Toolbar for Firefox?03:51
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BHSPitLappyrummik, you might want to fill the checkmarks in "Add/Remove..."03:51
jordanaui have my vpnc client running and connected, how do i browse the network i am connected to03:51
BHSPitLappyas well.03:51
bruenigwikijeff, it corresponds to the icon that shows up in the addressbar, not certain how that is determined though03:51
chiefinnovator_Hi!03:51
BHSPitLappyhi.03:51
chiefinnovator_anyone interested in helping me with an SSH question03:51
BHSPitLappy!anyone03:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:52
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: yes03:52
rummikBHSPitLappy: i did one of them already it looks like03:52
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weirdolol who implemented single click first?03:52
wikijeffbruenig: yeah I know, but although many websites have an icon in the addressbar most of them dont show the icon in the Bookmarks Toolbar03:52
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, $ ssh localhost03:52
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chiefinnovator_ardchoille, gives me03:52
chiefinnovator_Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer03:52
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ardchoillechiefinnovator_: Are you ssh'ing from one box to another on the same subnet?03:52
BHSPitLappyare you supposed to be able to ssh yourself?03:52
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, same box03:52
bruenigwikijeff, when you bookmark it. Sometimes it doesn't show up immediately. Usually you have to use the bookmark before the icon gets changed from the blank document thing03:52
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135703:53
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: You're ssh'ing in the same box? That's not what ssh is designed for03:53
chiefinnovator_Well, I tried it from my work computer earlier and got the same message03:53
justin_Has anyone else noticed that XFCE4 is slower then KDE now?03:53
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, ha, I know I just figured it would let me rule out firewalls, etc03:53
zarstarparadise, i can't ping 64.236.29.12003:53
ali1234TokenBad: did you check that the user's home directory exists?03:53
wikijeffbruenig: ok, thanks03:53
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justin_Not at first but run XFCE4 as your df winmanager for a while, and it starts to really slow down...03:53
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: The remote box needs to be running an ssh server, then you need to do ssh user@host to start an ssh sesion03:53
paradizelosttry pinging www.cnn.com, and put the ip address you get in the address bar03:54
TokenBadali1234, he updated from breezy to dapper and this started03:54
vikjustin_: how long you been running it for?03:54
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, I think it used to ask me to enter my user name03:54
ali1234TokenBad: so, is his home directory still present?03:54
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TokenBadali1234, yes...03:54
ali1234TokenBad: well then, best advice, is to rename the gnome settings folder, then gnome will recreate it03:55
CrazyMOanyone report xserver dying on an amd64 box after latest updates?03:55
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, So I should try it from a different computer?03:55
natural20so... does anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?03:55
profoX`alright i'm going to bed03:55
profoX`bye ppl03:55
bruenigCrazyMO, everyone03:55
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: yes03:55
chiefinnovator_Ok, I'll be back in a bit03:55
zarstar:S it seems I can't ping www.cnn.com :S03:55
chiefinnovator_thanks03:55
CrazyMOhow do I downgrade it?03:55
ali1234TokenBad: if that makes it work, then you can start to copy back the settings from the old folder. if it still desn't work, then you have more serious problems03:56
ardchoille!ssh03:56
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:56
paradizelostzarstar: try it w/ google.com03:56
vikany ideas why my PCCard ethernet comes up as eth1, despite there being no eth0?03:56
ardchoille!ssh > chiefinnovator_03:56
ali1234vik: sure there's no eth0? ifconfig -a03:56
zarstarin the browser?03:56
vikali1234: no eth003:56
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paradizelostzarstar: yah, ping the site, put the ip into the browser03:57
Genfoohow can I undo the latest xserver update?03:57
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bimberi!xorgbug03:57
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'03:57
_tccDoes Dapper ship with madwifi-old or madwifi-ng?03:57
zarstari can ping www.google.it03:57
paradizelostzarstar: k. put that ip into your browser03:57
zarstarand www.google.com03:57
Terlmann700 people! *freaks out again*03:57
Genfoothanks bimberi03:58
CrazyMOty03:58
zarstar"firefox browser web"03:58
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bimberiGenfoo: np :)03:58
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deXtrezzawhat is system utility 'ld'03:58
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zarstarno problem with that03:58
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paradizelostzarstar: hmm.03:59
paradizelostthat's odd03:59
zarstarthe browser shows correctly03:59
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zarstarthe google page03:59
Geoffrey2I just love program developers who don't believe it's necesarry to tell anyone else how to use their program...especially when they're charging you for it03:59
natural20anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?03:59
ranunculoidIs there a repository I can get the latest libxine builds for ubuntu?03:59
zarstarbut I can't ping www.cnn.com :S03:59
paradizelostzarstar: but does it resolve to an IP?03:59
zarstarnada04:00
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paradizelosthmm04:00
bkudriai have configured my laptop to work with my external lcd using nvidia's twinview...is there a way to switch from yusing both screens to useing just the laptop one?  currently, i have another metamode, but when i switch to it, it pans across a larger virtual screen... any ideas?04:00
zarstarno response04:00
paradizelostthis is a linux box riht?04:00
zarstarubuntu04:00
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zarstar6.06.1 jjust installed04:00
paradizelostwell, i dunno04:00
ranunculoidzarstar: no response from cnn.com for me either. They mustn't accept Pings04:00
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zarstarwhat the hell? :S04:01
ranunculoidTry pinging google.com04:01
zarstarmmm04:01
ranunculoidAlways works for me04:01
paradizelostranunculoid: i've had him through all that04:01
zarstarnot a matter, it works04:01
vikzarstar: I can't ping cnn.com. Some common sites block ping probes04:01
paradizelostranunculoid: it doesn't even resolve to an ip for cnn.com04:01
zarstarokok04:01
Terlmann6.06 stinks compared to 5.12(without ANY updates)04:01
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vikTerlmann: Amen to that04:02
ranunculoidDoes anybody know where I can get xine 1.1.2 for ubuntu?04:02
justin_Terlmann: Why?, because it does not include GCC by default?04:02
zarstarit's so strange :S04:02
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zarstarwhat could I do?04:02
ranunculoidI need it to play FLAC files04:02
jordanauhow do i view a vpn after i have connected to it04:02
justin_5.12 was not good, except for having GCC by default04:02
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paradizelostjordanau: a vpn is a network connection04:03
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zarstarever seen something like that?04:03
MadpilotTerlmann, what's 5.12? There was an Ubuntu 5.10...04:03
paradizelostit's not a file or a program04:03
Corporal_Dirgebkudria, As far as I know, you need to restart X to change to using just 1 monitor.04:03
ubuntuwhat is X server and how do i exit it so i can install my nvidia driver?04:03
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justin_Ubuntu, you do not need to exit X..04:03
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paradizelostdeXtrezza: the X server is your graphics04:03
deXtrezzawell the terminal says i need to04:03
paradizelostjustin_: to install the NVIDIA drivers, you do04:03
FirstStrikectrl alt tab04:03
zarstarwhat I could friends?04:03
deXtrezzahmm04:03
shawnr_ubuntulog, just install driver.. then press 'ctrl+alt+backspace'04:03
justin_Ubuntu, simply point xorg.conf to your new driver, and press -ctrl-alt-backspace, to restart it04:03
FirstStrikethat will kill x04:03
justin_paradizelost: Really?04:04
FirstStrikeer04:04
FirstStrikebackspace04:04
ranunculoidubuntu: restart your computer and select recovery mode from the list of options in GRUB04:04
justin_paradizelost: Wow that bites04:04
jordanauafter connected to a server remotely with vpnc, how do i view the data on the server?04:04
bkudriaCorporal_Dirge: no special work-arounds? bummer...04:04
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paradizelostjustin_: you need it to install the driver04:04
Terlmannin 5.12 via ac'97 busted afted a ubuntu update , and 6.06 doesnt install right the first 2 times, doesnt yet have the libs to do a proper media experience... l04:04
justin_Well then praise Radeon04:04
zarstarcould I reinstall smthing? :S04:04
SidHi guys.04:04
paradizelostjordanau: depends on how the data is there, is it on a fileserver, sql server, terminal server, what?04:04
SidAnyone here get "Nvidia Tv-out" working in Totem options?04:05
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vikI been having major ac97 probs with recent kernels04:05
jordanauparadizelost, i signed in through a cisco vpd client04:05
swarmSo if I remotely start a torrent in Lynx via a SSH program.... and I close the SSH program04:05
chiefinnovator_Ok everyone I'm back04:05
zarstarhola chief04:05
weirdoit's funny how my laptop lists every device as from ati04:05
jordanauparadizelost, except i used vpnc04:05
swarmand I re-login to SSH.. how do I re-open the lynx on the screen?04:06
weirdomodem, sound card, etc04:06
zarstari'm going mad04:06
swarmto monitor it04:06
ali1234swarm: run it in screen04:06
chiefinnovator_I tried ssh from a different computer same intranet deal04:06
chiefinnovator_same problem04:06
chiefinnovator_Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:06
paradizelostjordanau: that's just the way you access the network, that says nothing about how the data is accessed04:06
Corporal_Dirgebkudria, NVidia may have somthing special, I've been working with xorg for a few months trying to get my ancient laptop ati to do dual monitors.04:06
chiefinnovator_Is there a log file somewhere I should check?04:06
swarmali1234, I am using SSH.... I cannot load a screen via putty04:06
TokenBadali1234, what is the gnome settings folder named?04:06
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ali1234swarm: yes you can, it's command line04:06
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ali1234swarm: screen <the command>04:07
jordanauparadizelost, okay maybe this helps, for windows computers they go start > run > \\cadcfiles04:07
swarmWhat do you mean?04:07
swarmScreen lynx www.bleh.com ?04:07
paradizelostjordanau: ok, so that's a file server04:07
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ali1234swarm: yeah pretty much. without the capital letter04:07
paradizelostgo places -> network servers04:07
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chiefinnovator_maybe I'll try fsk04:07
swarmright04:07
chiefinnovator_command not found :-(04:08
swarmnow how do I get back into it?04:08
xnull192http://pastebin.ca/143478 (any ideea) ?04:08
swarmwhen I close it04:08
swarmwhen I close putty04:08
vikswarm: run screen. To detach the screen, just close the putty window (or ctrl-A then d)04:08
Corporal_DirgeDoes Ubuntu have anything capable of using WPA2?04:08
swarmah04:08
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swarmk04:08
vikswarm: screen -r reattaches04:08
ali1234swarm: it will load up like normal... if you type "ctrl-a d" you get back to the initial shell. then when you log in again, type "screen -r"04:08
paradizelostjordanau: go places -> network servers        and try to to browse to it04:08
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zarstarhow is it possible? I ping www.google.com04:08
paradizelost!screen04:08
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen04:08
zarstarbut in the browser it doesnt work!!!04:08
chiefinnovator_WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause04:08
chiefinnovator_SEVERE filesystem damage.04:08
chiefinnovator_how do I do it then?04:08
vikscreen rocks04:08
swarmoh, nice :)04:08
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swarmvery nice04:08
swarmindeed, screen rocks04:09
paradizelostswarm: is there a reason you are using putty instead of an xterm?04:09
oscuroguys, my printer is just nuts.04:09
zarstarbut www.google.it works :S04:09
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kjmoscuro : valium?04:09
oscuroit's printing weird characters :(04:09
paradizelostoscuro: that's a bad driver04:09
swarmparadizelost, I just said putty for ease of explanation. I am in reality using xterm :P04:09
oscurowhat's a ppd file??04:09
kjmoscuro : speaking in tonges is it?04:09
coreytHas anyone gotten lmsensors working with a nforce 430 chipset?04:09
TokenBadali1234, what folder do I rename?04:09
paradizelostswarm: that makes a difference04:09
chiefinnovator_too late, I have file system da .. . connection lost04:09
paradizelost:P04:09
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oscuroI have a hp deskjet 610c04:09
zarstarqlke italiano?04:09
jayteedamn! screwed up my xwindows!04:09
jayteerunning on a latitude d62004:10
oscuroand the system recognizes the machine.04:10
swarmnow, if someone else wants to view that screen, can they view it at the same time?04:10
oscurobut...04:10
paradizelostswarm: as the same user, they can type screen -x04:10
oscuroit prints weird stuff..04:10
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swarmnice :)04:10
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paradizelostotherwise you need to set screen up a certain way for multi-user mode04:10
crouchingMonkeyhow do i check if all of my drivers are up to date ?04:10
kjmoscuro : Speaking in tonges and acting bipolar is the sign of a problem.  The first thing todo is to get the printer to admit it has a problem.04:10
unix_infidelcan someone here paste bin their vimrc and gvimrc please?04:10
paradizelostoscuro: that's the #1 sign that it's got the wrong driver loaded04:10
kjmoscuro : second thing to do is reinstall the drivers for the CORRECT model printer.04:10
swarmthis should work just fine :)04:10
jayteeI had been using the nvidia drivers... then updated xorg stuff04:11
oscuro...ok I'll reinstall again.04:11
PurpleTailsDOes Ubuntu mess up dial-up connections?04:11
vikunix_infidel: what do you wanna do?04:11
swarmsure is slow though :P04:11
jayteehoisted by my own petard!04:11
oscurobut it was ok :(04:11
unix_infidelvik: test out a theory.04:11
ugarithow does one get mp3 files to play on ubuntu? I don't mean application because none of them play mp3's04:11
ugaritversion 6.06.104:11
kjmoscuro : mental diseases often attack in late age.04:11
swarmugarit, , 64-bit or 32-bit?04:11
paradizelostoscuro: turn it off for a while, and turn it on, holding the cancel button04:11
zarstarit's incredible, I can reasearch with www.google.it but the links don't work!04:11
paradizelostoscuro: it is a VERY old printer04:11
jayteesure... mp3s paly fine04:11
kjm!media > ugarit04:11
vikunix_infidel: a mathematical, computing, or social theory? (my money is on social)04:11
ali1234TokenBad: anything that's .gnome .gnome2 and anything that links to it04:11
shawnr_!mp304:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
bruenig!mp3 > ugarit04:11
ugaritswarm 32bit04:11
unix_infidelvik: just cat /etc/vim/* and pastebin.04:12
kjm!media04:12
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:12
unix_infidelvik: of the above, id say computing.04:12
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TokenBadso all the gnome folders?04:12
kjm!codecs > ugarit04:12
ali1234TokenBad: i just thought of something... if you reinstalled the breezy over the old install, maybe the permissions on the homedir are incorrect04:12
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swarmugarit, you will need codecs, check out www.ubuntuforums under the howto tips & tricks section, get automatrix or easy ubuntu04:12
ugaritswarm thanks04:12
swarmnp04:12
jayteewhat's the default inittab level y'all have set in /etc/inittab?04:12
ali1234TokenBad: so make sure his user has rw permission on those folders first04:12
vikunix_infidel: ain't got vim set up on this computer; my normal workstation is out of action atm04:12
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jaytee2?04:12
ugaritwhat an impressive version of linux, wow!04:12
TokenBadali1234, its not that he reinstalled breezy..he updated from breezy to dapper04:13
unix_infidelanyone else willing to do a simple pastebin: just cat /etc/vim/* and put the output into a pastebin please.04:13
unix_infidel!pastebin04:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:13
Co2Hello, is there a way to start the file browser with root access like with sudo on console?04:13
paradizelostTokenBad: did you run a gui program w/ sudo and not gksudo?04:13
bruenigco2, gksudo nautilus04:13
ugarithas anyone tried xgl?04:13
swarmIs there a better command-line torrent client than lynx?04:13
paradizelostugarit: yes, it's very nice04:13
swarmugarit, #ubuntu-xgl04:14
netsuiugarit: here here. Very very nice04:14
jayteecould someone look in /etc/inittab and tell me the default init level?04:14
swarmI could not get xgl to work with my ATI x30004:14
paradizelostswarm: i think azureus has a plugin for CLI access04:14
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natural20so why does ubuntu have a GUI if you can't move stuff to folders using it04:14
jordanauparadizelost, it doesn't show up in that window04:14
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swarmparadizelost, however to install that, I would need to be at the graphical part. :(04:14
TokenBadall he did was the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then rebooted04:14
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Madpilotnatural20, huh?04:14
ArtimusIs there a way to blacklist a PCMCIA module?  My friend has a card that uses axnet_cs.  However, it loads pcnet_cs and then messes the card up.  I tried adding pcnet_cs to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail04:15
larson9999jaytee: 204:15
paradizelostswarm: yes, sadly04:15
Co2Thanks bruenig04:15
dasosis there a way to set a lightweight desktop manager and restart X into it?04:15
bruenignatural20, you can if you want. But generally they try to make it a bit more difficult than drag and drop in order to help compensate for user error. natrual20, do gksudo nautilus and you can use the gui to move stuff to folders04:15
vikswarm: does lynx do torrents now?04:15
paradizelostswarm: ubuntu center has a torrent part04:15
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paradizelostit's web-accessed04:15
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paradizelostcan be done remotely04:15
jayteethanks... that's what I thought04:15
swarmvik, evidently :P04:15
swarmseems to be doing it for me04:15
larson9999vik: i wondered that too.   it's been a while since i've used lynx though04:15
paradizelostjordanau: what didn't come up?04:15
zarstartnx to everyone04:15
zarstarhere is 4.15 o'clock04:16
vikswarm: I've just been using the vanilla bittorrent package.04:16
larson9999jaytee: the reason run levels are different for different distros is beyond me.  i should read up on that.04:16
vikswarm: provides curses-based and headless clients04:16
Warbozarstar: Wow you're up late!04:16
vikswarm: I've heard good things about bittornado too04:16
paradizelostWarbo: or early04:16
Warbozarstar: It's only 3:15 here :)04:16
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ranunculoidSame here Warbo04:17
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zarstar:S i will not sleep :(04:17
zarstarfucking wireless!04:17
ejay69hello04:17
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ali1234vik: vanilla bt saturates my upload. bittornado allows to cap it. apart from that it's almost identical04:17
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vikali1234: vanilla bt can limit uploads04:18
ejay69can i ask some help in here about ubuntu?04:18
WarboMy wifi router died :( (and as soon as Ubuntu stopped crashing when accessing Wifi)04:18
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Warboejay69: That's why we're here04:18
bruenigutorrent through wine dominates both vanilla bt and bittornado04:18
BlueEaglejaakkos: read up on runlevels here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel04:18
vikbruenig: except when you need a non-gui version04:18
ejay69thanks warbo04:18
ali1234oh come on, i'm not installing wine just to download a file :)04:18
Madpilotali1234, Gnome's stock bittorrent has upload throttling, either by # of connections or by connection speed...04:18
bruenigvik, ah yes04:19
swarmI am going to try torrentcraft04:19
swarmi mean04:19
_sojournerhow do I get dapper ro redetect my hardware ? i changed my monitor and need to update my config04:19
swarmnixtorrent04:19
bruenigbik, I didn't realize that is what you were getting at. Coming in and out of the channel.04:19
bruenigvik*04:19
ali1234i havn't used a commad line torrent app for a while, i just use the gnome "whatever happens when you double click the torrent" now :)04:19
ejay69I am newbie and would like to ask some questions on setting up an ubuntu server that will handle DNS and e-mail04:19
vik_sojourner: for that try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'04:19
bruenig!ask04:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:19
ejay69lol04:19
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Winbox1I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Can anyone help me?04:19
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SidHas anyone here ever gotten Totem's "nVidia Tv-out" working?04:20
BlueEaglewell that's an understatement right there. "...chkconfig tool, which keeps its configuration settings in a mildly elaborate arrangement under /etc/rc.d/."04:20
ejay69is there a postfix guru here?04:20
denveris anyone aware of a xen package for ubuntu?04:20
Winbox1I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom' **04:20
bruenig!repeat04:20
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:20
denveror would i be best installing that by hand04:20
pfalconedid something happen to the xorg update today?04:21
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wnoisehey guys.  anyone have an idea why an update to the latest binaries in Dapper results in nvidia drivers ("nvidia", that is) no longer recongise my GeForce 6600?04:21
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bruenigpfalcone, yep04:21
BlueEaglewnoise: Known bug04:21
pfalconelooks like i ain't alone :)04:21
bruenig!xorgbug04:21
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'04:21
BlueEaglewnoise: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715804:21
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genfooI hooked up my laptop to my samsung lcd tv and I can't play movies on the TV04:21
bruenig!patience > bruenig04:21
BlueEaglebruenig: ahh, goodie.04:21
wnoiseBlueEagle> cheers!04:21
genfoothe place where the image should be simply is black04:21
genfooI guess framebuffer doesn't like my TV :P04:22
verbosegenfoo: lower the refresh rate04:22
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verboseto 60Hz04:22
genfooit should be 6004:22
kjm!patience04:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:22
BlueEaglegenfoo: Are you sure your gfx driver allows for overlay?04:22
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kjmheh, I need that bot in my office.04:22
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verbosegenfoo: can you see other stuff on the tv04:22
genfooyea04:23
genfoo*yes04:23
verbosebut when you start to play the movie it stops?04:23
natural20i'm a complete linux/ubuntu/programming neophite - is there anyone who can help me install java and/or VASSAL on breezy?04:23
genfooeverything is just right but I cannot play movies04:23
genfooI've tried numerous programs04:23
genfooI got the codecs04:23
genfooI got sound too04:23
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swarmmy movies play perfectly =D04:23
ali1234genfoo: try a different output driver? what program are you using?04:23
BlueEaglegenfoo: Are you sure you've got the right video channel tuned then?04:23
genfoo:(04:23
zarstarguys04:23
genfooI can see what I am typing right now on my TV04:23
zarstari've the key04:24
genfooeverything is OK but the movie area itself04:24
swarmvik, any tips on how to download using torrent faster?04:24
BlueEagleubotu: tell natural20 about java04:24
zarstari've been searching for a new dns, I tried04:24
_xepherum... why is xepher here04:24
_xepherand why do we have the same info04:24
ali1234genfoo: for example, in mplayer... mplayer -vo x11 - will use software playback04:24
BlueEaglenatural20: I hope the /msg from ubotu can help.04:24
zarstar212.216.112.112.... and it works!04:24
zarstarnow I can go to sleep!04:24
vikswarm: huh?04:24
Sidnatural20: hold on04:24
Warbo_xepher: Did you disconnect suddenly?04:24
natural20blueeagle: do i have to type !java?04:24
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genfooalil234 thanks but I also have another minor problemo ---- mplayer has no installation candidate.... what's up what that04:25
_xepherwarbo: must be it04:25
ubuntuhi guys04:25
ubuntuwhats up?04:25
BlueEaglenatural20: ubotu sould have sendt you that message.04:25
swarmvik, got any ideas on how to make torrent download faster? :)04:25
Sidah04:25
BlueEagle!java04:25
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:25
genfoouse swarming04:25
genfoo:P04:25
Sidn/m04:25
bruenigswarm, more seeds04:25
swarmbleh :P04:25
ubuntuswarm:  faster connection, look for seeds :)04:25
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swarmyeah, i got that taken care of04:25
swarm10mbps04:25
ali1234genfoo: no idea... you can change output driver with vlc also... dunno the command line for it though04:25
ubuntunice :D04:25
Warbo_xepher: use "/msg nickserv recover name password" and "/msg nickserv release nam password" (I forget which order though)04:25
swarm300 seeds, but it's only going 59k/sec04:25
ubuntuhow much fast more u want :O04:25
genfoook I got vlc thanks04:25
ubuntudamn it dude i'm on 10kvps04:25
ubuntu:P04:25
vikswarm: heh - never been a problem for me. Stuck on 512kbps :(04:26
ubuntubtw hi swarm  :)04:26
_xepherWarbo: there we go, thx04:26
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genfooaah fubar I'm going to compile mplayer from source >:|04:26
naafoobar!04:26
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weirdoanybody tried installing compiz-vanilla?04:27
swarmhi ubuntu :)04:27
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Warbofubar=feed up beyond apparent repair04:27
ubuntuwierdo not me sir :(04:27
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Warbo(feed up should be effed)04:27
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ali1234genfoo: probably you need to add some repository to get mplayer installed... also i have a dim memry that the package is not called "mplayer" but "mplayer-somethingorother" so ry searching it in synaptic, if you havn't04:27
weirdogot broken packages.. grrr how to fix?04:27
noodlewhen is xorg going to be fixed :(04:27
naafoobar=music player for windows04:27
ubuntui just tried installing gentoo04:27
Xnixwhat package do i reconfigure to have it reconfigure Xorg for me?04:27
ubuntudang that OS i 1 pain in the (_|_)04:27
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weirdoi tried using fix function in synaptics.. but nothing04:28
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swarmXnix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:28
naaheh ubuntu04:28
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naamore like04:28
Xnixswarm thanks :)04:28
genfooalil234 I know I also can't do that thing youre thinking of I know what you mean04:28
naa<ubuntu> i just tried typing up gentoo04:28
swarmnp04:28
bruenig!no > bruenig04:28
genfooalil234 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html04:28
genfooits not working either04:28
ubuntuit took my partitions away, all data bye bye04:28
ubuntu:((04:28
vikoh well eth1 it is04:28
DrBanzaiCan anybody help me troubleshoot my serial ports, please?04:28
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compguy1011i have an imac and use osx for my normal stuff, and have a dual boot of windows for gaming, ive been into linux before but never stayed with it, how is it thies days?04:28
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genfooalil234 its the GPG keys I think04:28
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ali1234vik: you can rename it with ifrename, if you really have to...04:28
ubuntucompguy1011: go for it04:29
wnoiseDrBanzai> I can give it a try;  what's the issue?04:29
bruenigcompguy1011, great as always04:29
vikDrBanzai you'll need to be more specific04:29
ali1234or did i dream that?04:29
ubuntunew OS r more friendly and kool04:29
vikali1234: no real issue running as eth1.04:29
genfoouhh04:29
bruenigbit more user friendly if that's the kind of thing you go for04:29
genfoomkay04:29
vikali1234: just curious why04:29
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ali1234vik: module alias perhaps?04:29
xxpor2omg why wont gaim stop flashing04:29
vikali1234: when it was running normally before I re-installed04:29
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ali1234vik: look in /etc at all the files relating to modules, modprobe etc04:30
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ubuntuxxpor2:  cause u have enabled it in options ;)04:30
vikali1234: and now 2 of the 3 NICs I've tried no longer work, when they did before.04:30
DrBanzaiWell, wnoise and vik, I'm trying to connect to my homebrew MP3 player.  It does not need a null modem adaptor.  It works fine under hyperterminal.  I can't get it to do anything under minicom or gtkterm.  It's a regular serial terminal connection...04:30
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Pf123bGuys, need help with wireless networking:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406953...I have to go now, pelase post in there, if you have any ideas.04:30
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ubuntuwhere is uboto :)04:30
vikali1234: the things is I never touched any module settings before, and it just worked. now it doesn't just work04:31
ubuntuubotu: hi :)04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
bruenig!ubotu04:31
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:31
ubuntuhaha04:31
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ubuntuman he is a funny helping bots04:31
ali1234vik: maybe they need firmware or something? i don't know much about pcmcia...04:31
compguy1011ubuntu, so, where will my advantages and disadvantages be in using ubuntu over os x04:31
cmatheso1i have a laptop, but whenever i try to run memtest86 or ubuntu (or windows), it crashes a little way in... the computer just restarts.  any idea what could be happening (it doesn't seem to be related to cpu temp.)04:31
bruenigcompguy1011, the doc menu gives you cancer04:31
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bruenigdock*04:31
compguy1011??04:32
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compguy1011how so? lol04:32
ubuntucompguy1011: well it is secure.   gr9 tools and lots of them , lot of man /help out there04:32
bruenigis that what it is called, I believe so04:32
ubuntu:)04:32
compguy1011ya, dock04:32
compguy1011its not that bad, lol04:32
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vikali1234: just don't get why it worked then (on a 5.10 system) but not now on 6.06. But I can't really be bothered with it now.04:32
ali1234compguy1011: with ubuntu you will never never miss the menu by a few pixels, loose focus of the curent app, and spend 10 minutes trying to figure out where the "file" menu went04:32
ubuntui got a ?04:33
ubuntuany1 also tried other different managers for ubuntu04:33
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swarm52 kb/sec - weak.04:33
ubuntulike i have xfce404:33
vikDrBanzai: I'm assuming you have the baud rate, bits, parity, etc set correctly?04:33
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compguy1011ubuntu, so whats the latest version of ubuntu now?04:33
DrBanzaivik, Yes, I do04:33
DrBanzaicompguy1011, 6.0604:33
ubuntucompguy1011: Ver 6.06 TLS i think :)04:33
bruenigcompguy1011, you should look at some screenshots of dreamlinux. Looks just like OSX, http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html04:34
natural20sid: you got something for me?04:34
compguy1011what is the code name for it04:34
ubuntudapper04:34
DrBanzaicompguy1011, Dapper Drake04:34
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swarmanyone here use xgl/compix with ati x300?04:34
compguy1011ah, not beta anymore04:34
swarmcompiz04:34
ubuntuno beta :)04:34
vikIsn't it 6.06.1?04:34
compguy1011i liked that screen flip deal04:34
ubuntufull fledged os :)04:34
Sidnatural20: I was going to, but it looks like someone else beat me to it. That is, if you have no more questions; otherwise I'm happy to help.04:34
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bruenig6.06.1 has all the updates. so you want have to download 190+ MB of updates04:35
shawnr_Is there a way to use wget to query HTML code from a url from inside a bash script?04:35
vikDrBanzai - does the serial port work under linux with any other serial devices?04:35
ubuntushawnr_: yes sir04:35
shawnr_yay ;p04:35
shawnr_how ?04:35
ali1234shawnr_: wget | grep ... etc04:35
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shawnr_htm04:35
shawnr_hrm*04:35
DrBanzaivik, Well, it did work with a modem04:36
shawnr_can a string var in bash hold that much data?04:36
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ubuntuit should04:36
ubuntuworth a hot ;)04:36
ubuntushot*04:36
ali1234shawnr_: string var? pipe it...04:36
Anubuntuuseful people, can anyone here help me with installing halflife 2 episode 1 in cedega (I am using Ubuntu)04:36
vikDrBanzai, so if you plug the modem in, open minicom on the port, and type 'AT' does it respond 'OK' ?04:36
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shawnr_I want to get the etire page in a string and then parse it for youtube links04:37
shawnr_;p04:37
DrBanzaivik, Lemme try04:37
ubuntuit can be done , use pipes04:37
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_azrael__Anubuntu: Even if you're running ubuntu, the people who sold you cedega are probably going to know more, just as a warning.04:37
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melymplayer04:38
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Anubuntu_azrael__, nevermind I found the cedega irc channel04:38
ubuntuhaha04:38
ali1234shawnr_: wget -O - http://whatever/ | grep 'pattern that matches the links'04:38
compguy1011DrBanzai, if i install ubuntu, i should get the x86 version right? anyone here install ubuntu on an intel mac?04:38
SidAnubuntu: assuming you have the latest engine patch, Cedega should have pre-defined settings for Half-Life 2 (and its ilk)04:38
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shawnr_hrm k04:38
oemhello all04:38
shawnr_thanks04:38
oem?04:38
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DrBanzaicompguy1011, Well, yeah, if you have an x86 CPU...I'm thinking there are tricks you need to do to get it on the intel mac though04:39
ubuntuwell later guys ,bbl04:39
ubuntutc all and god bless :)04:39
oemHow can I change my screen resulution in Gnome? right now it is set at 1024X768 where I wnat it to be atleast 1280X76804:39
compguy1011any rooms that deal with that that u know of?04:39
brueniggod bless, hmm offensive04:40
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ubuntuoffensive?04:40
ubuntuy is that/04:40
bruenigindeed04:40
ali1234oem: system->preferences->screen resolution04:40
wizardanyone has that xorg-server problem?04:40
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DrBanzaivik, No, nothing, and the lights on the modem don't blink either04:40
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bruenigit is pretty obvious, no need to fill the room up with offtopic stuff though04:40
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DrBanzaicompguy1011, try #mac04:40
ubuntubruenig:  huh ?04:40
ubuntuwhatever dude :p04:41
Dev05wizard, I thought you had already solved it... Didn't you?04:41
natural20i can't upgrade from breezy (NVIDIA driver problem with dapper), anyone know how i can install firefox 1.5?  the stuff i've found online doesn't help - i don't know how to implement it.04:41
bruenigdarwin bless bye04:41
ejay69how can i allow dial up user access their mail on my server?04:41
vikDrBanzai : Hmmm... you got a stock kernel or rolled your own?04:41
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DrBanzaivik, Well, it's the 686 kernel04:41
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wizardyes  i did, but was curious if anyone had side effects04:41
adammichaelroachgreetings, I just did an update and there was one update: the xserver-xorg-core, after installation i restarted and now my x server is dead telling me there are no screens found04:41
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shawnr_ali1234, wget -O - http://www.google.com/index.html | grep http://www.google.com/intl/    -   doesn't work04:41
bruenig!xorgbugfix04:41
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb04:41
bruenigdo that04:41
ejay69how can i allow dial-up users access (receive/send) emails on my ubuntu server?04:41
Dev05natural20, As far as I know, that version of Firefox won't run on Breezy.04:41
vikDrBanzai: check the config to see if serial support is enabled/modularised and the module is loaded04:41
DrBanzaivik, No, I'm sorry, it's the k7 kernel...I have too many computers...04:41
oemI went there, but there is now where to change that. All I have there is the listing of the chosen one by the system which is: 800 X 600, 1024 X 768. I cannot change it from there.04:42
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vikDrBanzai: I hear ya...04:42
wizardgetting mltiple esd's and sluggish performance04:42
DrBanzaivik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules04:42
Dev05oem, If you know what you're doing, I guess you can change your resolutions directly from xorg.conf...04:42
ejay69wow... can i really get help here?04:43
ali1234shawnr_: cos that string isn't contained on the page...04:43
kitcheejay69: do you mean direct dial or no04:43
ejay69anyone to talk to about ubuntu server here?04:43
vikless /boot/config-KERNELVERSION and look for SERIAL04:43
bruenig!patience > ejay6904:43
shawnr_ali1234, its the begining of a link on the page04:43
baconbacon#ubuntu-server04:43
xepherejay69: /join #ubuntu-server04:43
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kitcheejay69: hello guess you won't anwser me then I won't anwser you04:44
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oemDevof: what commant should I type to get to xorg.config. I'm new to linux04:44
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ejay69yeah dial up via modems04:44
ejay69can i message you kitchie?04:44
ali1234shawnr_: sure it's not a relative link? in which cse the whole thing wont be in the html04:44
bruenigoem, if you are new to linux directly editing xorg.conf is probably not a good idea04:44
kitcheejay69: you would set up ppp up04:44
bruenigoem, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would likely be a better option for you04:44
ejay69ppp server?04:45
Dev05oem, I got late here, so, tell me exactly what you need. As bruenig said, if your new and you're not really sure of what you'll be doing, well...04:45
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natural20Dev05: i've found some webpages that describe a process, for installing FF1.5 on breezy, but I'm too ignorant of unix/linux to use the info.04:45
ali1234shawnr_: i just checked, and it is. try grep 'intl'04:45
ejay69can i msg you kitchie?04:45
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kitcheejay69 sure04:45
bruenignatural20, why no update to dapper?04:45
Dev05natural20, Which pages have you found?04:45
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bruenignatural20, you should be able to just download whatever they have on the firefox website. Extract it to /opt and run it from there. I believe firefox distributes frozen binaries. Not sure though. Been a long time since I haven't gotten firefox from apt-get04:46
VEhellow i'm having problems getting 5.1 sound working in dapper04:46
bruenignot frozen binaries. precompiles binaries04:46
bruenigprecompiled*04:47
tyler_dwhat program will open .eml attachments, evolution unexpectedly closes when I try it ???04:47
adammichaelroachbruenig, thanks for the help04:47
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VEmy sound card is turtle beach montego04:47
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ArtimusI've got my soundcard modules loaded, but the /dev device nodes aren't created.  Is there a command I can run to have them automatically created (like they should be)?04:47
oemWhen I use KDE I can go to screen resulution and change it to 1280 X 768 but in GNOME you do not have that option except the one that display there04:47
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oemI want to change the screen resolution from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 76804:48
ejay69i am planning to set up a mail server for our network04:48
ejay69<ejay69> my problem is that the boss wants to dialup to another ISP and then access her mailboxes via eudora on my server04:48
ejay69<ejay69> would that be possible?04:48
ejay69opps04:48
oemYou know what let me install Kubuntu then I will do it from there04:48
ejay69sorry folks04:48
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Dev05oem, So it works perfectly on KDE?04:48
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bruenigoem, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Accept defaults until you get to screen resolution part. Arrow down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it, then finish out selecting defaults. After that it should be an option in the screen resolution dialog from system>preferences>screen resolution in theory04:49
shawnr_ali1234, ok i got it...04:49
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AWOSDevHello!04:50
AWOSDevI'm new to Ubuntu, but not to Linux.04:50
niallwhat pro do i need to browse the content of my mobile for ubuntu04:50
bruenigAWOSDev, what do you need help with04:50
AWOSDevWireless04:50
AWOSDevI haven't done Wireless LANs with Linux04:50
shawnr_ali1234, now.. one more thing.. is it possible to get the ouptut into a string variable if i use this inside a bash script?04:50
bruenig!wireless04:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:51
tyler_danyone know how to open and view a .eml attachment04:51
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tyler_d??04:51
ali1234shawnr_: yes, like this: VARFOO = `wget...`04:51
shawnr_hrm... k thanks!04:51
niallanyone know what programs/drivers i need for my mobile phont which connects via usb cable to comp for ubuntu04:51
niall*phone04:52
rikainiall, be patient.04:52
ali1234shawnr_: but you should be able to do it without variables... probably using sed04:52
AWOSDevbruenig, thank you.04:52
rikainiall, what mobile do you have?04:52
Windcan i play CS with ubuntu04:52
ali1234niall: what kind of phone?04:52
niallsamsung04:52
Windnormal cs04:52
rikainiall, model?04:52
bruenigtyler_d, try downloading it to your machine and then opening it with an email client like evolution or thunderbird04:52
shawnr_ali1234, what im going for is getting that grep output, stripping it down to just the links, then access the links one at a time... i guess putting them into an array first04:53
niall<rikai> 1 sec,04:53
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bruenigas in right click on it and hit open with thunderbird or whatever client you use04:53
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niall<rikai> sgh-e33004:53
ali1234shawnr_: you can pass the whole list of links back into wget without much parsing... don't need to do it 1 at a time04:53
ardchoilleIs there something like Coppermine photo gallery in the repos?04:53
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kitchetyler_d it could be that you need a unarchiver04:54
VEHello, i'm having problems getting my turtle beach motego to output 5.1 sounds. I CAN get 4 of the channels and the sub to work, but i cant get the center channel to give out sound. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong and/or could anyone provide me some help04:54
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AWOSDevI read the wireless documentation online and it still isn't working.04:54
oemThanks guys04:54
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leboffis it possible to add debian repositories to ubuntu apt?04:54
shawnr_ali1234, the problem is that its giving me some html code along with it.. not just a clean list of links04:54
_tccAWOSDev, join the club =)04:54
ardchoilleleboff: It's not recommended04:54
ali1234shawnr_: wget will ignore that... it's designed to spider pages anyway04:54
leboffardchoilee: why not?04:54
bruenigleboff, I believe so. Just edit your sources.list. However repos with the same packages might not be a good idea04:55
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ardchoilleleboff: Because it';s not good to use debian packages on Ubuntu04:55
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AWOSDevSo what am I supposed to do?04:55
leboffah, ok, thanks.04:55
shawnr_ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)04:55
bruenigAWOSDev, that is all I got. Re ask your question, somebody else might know04:55
AWOSDevIt's a Linksys WPC54G v3.  Ubuntu detected it as a Broadcom 4318.04:56
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AWOSDevIt says "Access Point: Invalid" and I can't find anywhere that I'm supposed to put the MAC address into04:56
Anon6638so i made the mistake of updating xorg, now i can't start x server when i reboot04:56
cafuegoAWOSDev: Load the firmware package; disbale ndiswrapper, reboot.04:56
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_tccIs wireless functionality going to be completely redone?04:56
cafuegoAWOSDev: You need to run 'sudo iwconfig ethX ap any'04:56
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rikainiall, sorry, dont know.04:57
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kitcheyeah witht he broadcom chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper anymore04:57
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Anon6638"No devices detected\nFatal server error: no screens found"04:57
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rikaiVE, i've got your blue. :<04:57
AWOSDevcafuego: Error for wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) : SET failed on device eth1; No such device.04:57
bruenig!xorgbugfix Anon663804:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgbugfix Anon6638 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
bruenig!xorgbugfix > Anon663804:57
cafuegoAWOSDev: Do you have the firmware?04:58
DrBanzaivik_, Any ideas?04:58
jdahmdoes ubuntu use udev or devfs by default?04:58
ranunculoid!xorgbugfix > ranunculoid04:58
jdahm(Im too lazy to check)04:58
AWOSDevcafuego, I don't know how to check that.04:58
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Dev05AWOSDev, What is what you need? I've been trying to do wireless for more than three months.04:58
natural20can't up date to dapper because of NVIDIA driver issues.  the following pages are walkthroughs for installing <ff1.5 on breezy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=398484> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion> <http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/upgrading-to-firefox-15-in-ubuntu.html> <http://devhen.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/howto-upgrade-to-firefox-15-on-ubuntu-510-breezy-badger/>  I04:58
natural20'm too ignorant to use these sites effectively - I have almost no knowledge of unix/linux - and what little I do know is confouned by Ubuntu's weird su rules.  Can someone help me install firefox 1.5 on breezy?04:58
cafuegojdahm: udev; devfs was deemed broken a few years ago and never fixed.04:58
shawnr_ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)04:58
leboffbam04:58
ali1234shawnr_: hmm seems like you can't do it04:58
leboffgo it04:58
leboffsudo dpkg -i --force-depends04:59
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AWOSDevDev05, I need to know why it doesn't work in Ubuntu.04:59
sethknatural20, there isn't, really, a weird su rule04:59
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sethknatural20, that's a misconception.04:59
lupine_85ranculoid: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1004:59
ali1234shawnr_: if you can strip the html and produce a file with urls one per line, then you can pip it into 'wget -i -'04:59
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erofeenatural try apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:59
bruenignatrual20, I am not running breezy but it is probably pretty straight forward. Let me get the package first04:59
sethknatural20, what is true is that, in one (and _only_ one) of the install options, the root password is not set04:59
fixIs anyone able to help me set up a wireless USB device for my other computer04:59
ali1234shawnr_: but that breaks if there's html mixed in04:59
Dev05AWOSDev, It doesn't work? What are you trying to do that doesn't work?04:59
sethknatural20, you can set it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu w.r.t. su04:59
AWOSDevWell it wouldn't set the access point, so I unplugged it and plugged it back in.  Now Ubuntu doesn't even know it exists.05:00
lupine_85fix: which card?05:00
sethknatural20, with the nvidia thing (from nvidia's web site) you simply do  ./filename (I forget the exact filename) and it runs the installer05:00
lupine_85or dongle, rather :)05:00
sethknatural20, nothing to it05:00
Dev05AWOSDev, ifconfig05:00
ali1234shawnr_: hang on... wget -F -i - should do it05:00
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AWOSDevI tried to reboot and it just froze05:00
fixLupine, WG111T05:00
AWOSDevSo I'm rebooting the long way :P05:01
fix"Wireless USB Adaptor"05:01
Dev05AWOSDev, What's the output of the ifconfig command?05:01
vik_DrBanzai: sorry, switched computers and lost a bit there. what was the latest?05:01
baconbaconnatural20: i'm pretty sure that if you really need ff1.5 and youre not comfortable with linux yet, you should "install" it to your home dir05:01
bruenignatural20, ok open up a terminal and do cd /opt05:01
DrBanzaivik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules05:01
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bruenigor you can do what baconbacon says05:01
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vik_ah05:01
DrBanzaivik_, You said to make sure that the modules were loaded, and I asked how to do that05:01
sethknatural20, as for firefox, the download from the mozilla.org web site only has to be extracted to some directory05:01
ali1234shawnr_: it may be easiest to do this entirely using wget, check the wget manual page05:01
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bruenignatural20, open up a terminal and cd to where ever you want to install it05:02
baconbaconif someone wants to walk him through, fine, but i'm burned05:02
shawnr_ali1234, did that last one work?05:02
sethknatural20, say you follow baconbacon's advise and make a directory $HOME/firefox05:02
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lupine_85fix: what does lsusb say about the device?05:02
AWOSDevDev05, my laptop is almost done rebooting05:02
natural20breunig: done05:02
sethknatural20, then you extract the files into ~/firefox  (~ == $HOME)05:02
ali1234shawnr_: are you registered? if so /msg me05:02
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sethknatural20, then you run it by typing ~/firefox/firefox05:02
bruenignatural do wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US05:02
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sethknatural20, and you are done05:02
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silver_cpuhi all!05:02
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silver_cpudoes anyone here have any experience with video capture?05:02
silver_cpui'm trying to get my ati tv-wonder pro to work05:03
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Dev05AWOSDev, oh, OK. When you're done you can paste-bin the output so it's easier to read (instead of on the channel).05:03
sethkbruenig, it's a hell of a lot easier to just go there with the browser and click on the link05:03
silver_cputhe video works great, but the audio is nonexistant05:03
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niallhow can i see which usb port my phone is plugged into and how can i detect it05:03
sethkniall, dmesg05:03
BHSPitLappywhoops.05:03
AWOSDevDev05, ifconfig doesn't list my eth1 WLAN card.05:03
genfoowhat are the alsa dev pkgs?05:03
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sethkniall, do dmesg, look at the end of the listing, then turn the phone on, do dmesg again05:03
bruenigsethk, tis but then again, it is pretty damn easy to download it extract it and then double click on the binary that says firefox, he wasn't able to do that05:03
AWOSDevDev05, iwconfig does.  Is that what you want?05:03
Dev05AWOSDev, it should normally be something like ra0.05:03
BHSPitLappywhen I moved, I accidentally copied my home/user/ contents to the new /home05:03
genfoowhat are the alsa dev pkgs?05:03
BHSPitLappyand I can't sudo now to fix it05:03
Dev05AWOSDev, Paste-Bin all the output.05:03
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vik_DrBanzai: if your using one of the ubuntu kernel packages you should be OK05:04
sethkniall, at the end you'll get some additional lines due to the usb device being detected05:04
AWOSDevDev05, Okay.05:04
josiei got a message saying updates were available, so i installed them, and it said it needed to restart. so i restarted, and now i'm getting the error "no devices found" when X tries to start05:04
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nzxhey, what program do i use to edit partitions on kde ?05:04
bruenigit is easier to know what directory he is doing it in so that I don't have to wonder where he chose to download it to. If it is on the desktop or where ever he  might put it05:04
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sethkbruenig, to me, typing firefox is a lot easier than trying to learn a file application just to double click on it.05:04
josieany ideas?05:04
natural20bruening: i get: cannot write to 'firefox setup 1.5.0.6.exe' permission denied.  should i have sudo'ed?05:04
DarkMageZjosie, the new xserver-xorg-core package causes issues for some people05:04
sethkbruenig, that's true05:04
erofeejosie, so X is disabled?05:04
josieDarkMageZ: oh05:04
DrBanzaivik_, I am05:04
sethknatural20, that's not what you want05:04
josieerofee: yes05:04
bimberi!xorgbug05:05
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'05:05
sethknatural20, two problems.05:05
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josiethx05:05
sethknatural20, the first, that's the wrong file, it's an exe and obviously for windows05:05
natural20i am a man nearly reduced to tears.  i just want to check my email.05:05
bruenignatural20, if you are doing it in /opt, which is the purpose of that directory. For just this reason, then you would do sudo. But others seem to think the /opt directory is bad. I defer to them I guess05:05
stiv2khow do i delete stuff off my "Places" menu in GNOME?  there's a whole list of FTP servers on it that dont work anymore05:05
sethknatural20, second you are trying to write it to a directory for which you don't have write privileges05:05
lupine_85 fix: hmm. looks like there's no native linux driver, so it's an ndiswrapper job05:05
niall<sethk> im finding it hard to see the phone or any change "dmesg"05:05
bruenig.exe, the link I gave you was for .tar.gz05:05
Sidnatural20: what's wrong? is it still that java thing?05:05
sethkniall, possibly it isn't being detected05:05
natural20i wish i knew05:05
vik_DrBanzai: does /dev/ttyS0 (or your chosen port) exist?05:05
lupine_85download the latest version of the drivers from Netgear, and the latest version of ndiswrapper from their site, and put them together05:06
lupine_85fingers crossed, it'll work05:06
DrBanzaivik_, Yes, it does05:06
stephanshi, does anyone know how to get 3d accel working on a dell 700m??? I lost this when I swiched to Ubuntu... Gogle Earth is sloooooow.... and chomium too05:06
niall<sethk> is there anthing i can do or is there something missing in the way of a driver05:06
fixi did lupine, it doesn't show up05:06
vik_DrBanzai: any writable by you? (I'm assuming you're using the first serial port?)05:06
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DrBanzaivik_, I wonder if it's a permission thing...05:06
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vik_DrBanzai: that's what I'm just thinking...05:06
vik_DrBanzai: try minicom as root05:07
bimberistiv2k: go to Places -> Network, right-click and 'unmount volume' the unwanted ones05:07
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sethkniall, possibly.  have you used any other usb device with the ubuntu install?05:07
vik_DrBanzai: or rather sudo05:07
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sethkniall, you may have to load usb kernel modules05:07
silver_cpuanyone here familiar with tv capture?05:07
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bimberistiv2k: Network *Servers*05:07
niall<sethk> yeah it picks up the webcma no sweat05:07
John[1] Hello all05:07
stiv2kbimberi: thanks05:07
DrBanzaivik_, When I do cd /dev, then ls -l ttyS0 I get: crw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-08-21 21:40 ttyS005:07
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niall*webcam05:07
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sethkniall, ok05:07
leboffso my apt now seems to think i have a broken package.. is there anyway to get it to ignore that?05:07
stephansis there a video card configuration tool for ubuntu?05:08
bimberistiv2k: yw :)05:08
skallerHi, I justr installed latest Xcore update, trashed my X can someone help05:08
bruenignatural20, do you still want to install ff 1.5?05:08
sethkniall, then, at an absolute minimum, you should get detection messages from the driver, with dmesg, after connecting the device and turning it on05:08
bruenig!xorgbugfix > skaller05:08
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bimberiubotu tell skaller about xorgbug05:08
natural20bruenig: please05:08
lupine_85fix: have you tried http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/05:08
leboffsilver_cpu .. i've had some attempts.. but my card is too obscure.. what are you lookin for?05:08
lupine_85might succeed05:08
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skallerhang on I tell exact error05:08
fixlupine: let me go look at that thank you05:08
bruenignatural20, ok it is going to have to be in your home directory because they seem to not like it being in /opt and also that helps a lot with permission issues05:09
lupine_85if that doesn't work, then it looks like it's not compatible05:09
silver_cpuleboff: i'm looking to get sound from my ati tv-wonder pro05:09
skallercan't find symbol __glXLastContext05:09
vik_DrBanzai: are you part of the dialout group? Just try 'sudo minicom' and see if that works  firstly05:09
silver_cpuleboff: video comes through really well, but audio doesn't05:09
John[1] Someon willing to help me out with an install isse?05:09
John[1] issue?05:09
DrBanzaivik_, Still nothing, and minicom still says it's offline05:09
skallerin libGLcore.so05:09
natural20bruenig: so replace /opt with /home?05:09
leboff#video4lin05:09
leboffoops05:09
sethkJohn[1] , ask a more specific question and you'll find out05:09
AWOSDevDev05, http://pastebin.com/77296305:09
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vik_DrBanzai: have a look in /var/lock. anything related to ttyS ?05:09
bruenignatural20, natural20, just open up a fresh terminal, you will be in the right directory05:09
silver_cpuleboff: my card uses an interconnect cable to send audio out of the capture card to the sound card's line in, and i've got my sound card's line in up (volume-wise), and the other card's line out up05:09
AWOSDevDev05, since I had to type everything into my desktop, I didn't do lo (I'm pretty sure that lo works :P )05:09
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Dev05AWOSDev, Working on it :)05:10
DrBanzaivik_, Yup05:10
bimberiskaller: you should have a couple of /msg's from ubotu with instructions05:10
silver_cpuleboff: thanks, i'll visit that chan and see what happens05:10
bruenignatural20, do "wget http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US"05:10
skallerk thx lookiung05:10
Dev05AWOSDev, Would you mind doing this through PM? Less noise.05:10
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AWOSDevDev05, yeah how does that work?05:11
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leboffsilver_cpu: its #v4l not video4lin05:11
John[1] Okay, sorry.  I'm trying to install the lamp server per the directions at http://howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.0605:11
DrBanzaivik_, That could be left over from when I had it set up as a dial in server05:11
Dev05AWOSDev, First you have to register. Then you can PM anyone.05:11
sethkJohn[1] , that's better, but I still haven't seen a question05:11
AWOSDevDev05, register?  I already have with Ubuntu.  I have to register with freenode?05:11
John[1] I'm down to the part where I can install the ubuntu desktop05:11
vik_DrBanzai: dial in?05:11
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Dev05AWOSDev, yeah.05:12
vik_DrBanzai: that process wouldn't still be running would it?05:12
AWOSDevDev05, okay I will now.05:12
Dev05tell AWOSDev about register05:12
DrBanzaivik_, I'm not sure...lemme check05:12
skaller Launchpad is offline at the moment for maintenance. It should be back, better than ever, soon. Thanks for your patience.05:12
skallerwonderful05:12
vik_DrBanzai: kill anything that might be holding the serial port, delete the lock file if its still there, then try minicom again05:12
bruenignatural20, tell me when that finishes05:12
niall<sethk>where normally are usb ports and devices mounted at05:12
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sethkniall, /media/usbXXXXX05:12
vik_Grrrrrrrr. X just died05:13
bimberi!xorgbugfix05:13
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb05:13
bimberiskaller:  ^^^^^05:13
sethkniall, the XXXXX of course varies with the device05:13
AWOSDevDev05, I can't find it on their Web site.  Where is it?05:13
natural20bruenig: finished05:13
Dev05!register05:13
bruenignatural20, do "tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz" this will extract the file05:13
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:13
skallerbimberi and hints in the meantime?05:13
niall<sethk> nop usb devices are listed here05:13
skaller*any05:13
John[1] After I run the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I do not getht desktop.  I endup back at the command prompt.05:13
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AWOSDevDev05, thank you.05:13
sethkniall, there are other names.  my palm comes up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB105:14
dr_willisJohn[1] ,  did it say it installed some stuff?05:14
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sethkniall, so not having devices there doesn't really prove much05:14
bruenignatural20, ok now. How do you want to launch this. An icon on the desktop or in the menus or panel or what?05:14
Xnixare there known issues with sata hard drives during the dapper install?05:14
niall<sethk> k05:14
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sethkniall, the thing is, if the device is created, a dmesg output will show it05:14
RamiKassabhey guys I'm trying to share an internet connection on my laptop to a friend. what's the easiest way to do it in ubuntu? I know firestarter has a good interface for it but I'm using network manager to help manage my wireless card and it disables your other devices when not being used so firestarter says it's unable to activate my eth0 (lan card) on the laptop05:14
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cdci get disconnected from the net in seconds because an other interface gets created automatically by name ppp105:14
bimberiskaller: those commands (from ubotu) will downgrade xserver-xorg-core to the version prior to the update05:15
natural20bruenig: tar: firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:15
natural20tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:15
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DrBanzaivik_, I don't see anything running, except maybe getty, and this is effecting both ttyS0 and S105:15
dr_willisnatural20,  you sure ya got the file name right?05:15
John[1] Wow there is so much going on in here I can't keep up hardley!!!05:15
bruenignatural20, do ls05:15
bruenigtell me what the output is05:15
sethknatural20, do ls -ltr   the most recent file will be the last one listed05:15
Dial_tonesomebody should tie an IED to K-Fed's ass05:15
fixIs anyone experienced in getting internet with the USB Wireless Adaptor: WG111T -- I have tryed everything I could think of which isn't much since I am new with linux. I am trying to get internet on my laptop.05:15
sethknatural20, or ls -ltr | tail -105:15
lupine_85linuxant doesn't work then?05:16
natural20download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.605:16
sethkDial_tone, was that relevant to something?05:16
brueniglol05:16
fixI have no idea where my USB thing is lupine ;\05:16
bruenigit downloaded the html, that is funny05:16
fixCan't find WG111T on there05:16
vik_DrBanzai: so getty's prolly taking the port. (perhaps mgetty?) It is probably respawning if you kill it. have a look in /etc/inittab05:16
IcemanV9John[1] : turn on closed-captioning on ur tv; practices reading, then soon you'll be able to keep up with this room chat ;)05:16
bruenigi guess that link merely refers you to a mirror not the actual file, well I guess it will have to be done graphically05:16
Dial_tonenothing K-fed does is relevant05:16
leboffmy synaptic seems to think theres a broken package (one i installed without it..) is there anyway to get it to ignore that05:17
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bruenignatural20, go to here http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US in a web browser and download firefox. Save it to your username directory if you can05:17
lupine_85if it's not mentioned, it's worth a try. I'd suggest you download and install it along with the most recent windows drivers for your card that you can find05:18
RamiKassabguys, any idea on how to share an internet connection via Firestarted? my lan device is active but Firestarter says the device isn't ready. I have Network Manager installed and Network Manager requires you to comment out the devices from /etc/network/interfaces05:18
skallerbimberi .. i'm on amd64 not x8605:18
lupine_85there is no linux driver, so it's linuxant or ndiswrapper - and you've already tried the latter05:18
natural20bruenig is my username directory home?05:18
DrBanzaivik_, Well, that was set to use ttyS105:18
fixWait linuxant is a program itself?05:18
lupine_85yes05:18
bimberiskaller: oops05:18
fixI have tryed ndiswrapper but I have no idea what I was doing lol,, let me go try to find this linuxant program and see if it works05:19
lupine_85it's like ndiswrapper - lets you use windows network drivers in linux05:19
bruenignatural20, it will be /home/username05:19
fixokay ty05:19
vik_and you've been trying minicom on ttyS0?05:19
bruenignatural20, it should say your username in the download dialog of firefox when you choose to download it05:19
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fixAlso quick question, so I dont have to use up my cd's05:19
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skallerluckily i have 2 machines or I'd be upgrading to Windows :)05:19
fixHow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?05:19
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bimberiskaller: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb05:20
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IcemanV9RamiKassab: see if it does work without firestarter?05:20
doughboyCan anyone tell me how to get samba to share printer on my dapper box to windows laptop?05:20
leboffis it possible to get synaptic to ignore broken packages?05:20
skalleris that a patched .deb?05:20
RamiKassabIcemanV9: see if what works without firestarted? the shared internet connection?05:20
DrBanzaivik_, So, when I look at my processes under top, is getty the one I want to kill?05:20
Dev05!tell doughboy about samba05:20
IcemanV9RamiKassab: yes. shared net connection05:21
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gaspock5ubotu: I <3 u05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
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vik_DrBanzai: well, it will respawn, so there's no point unless you've changed inittab.05:21
RamiKassabIcemanV9: how do you share an internet connection without firestarter? don't you need to edit config files and install a bunch of shit?05:21
DrBanzaivik_, Yeah, I changed inittab05:21
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natural20bruenig: my downloads go to my desktop, home does not have a username folder.05:21
fixow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?05:21
DrBanzaivik_, But is it getty I want to kill, or mgetty?05:22
sethkRamiKassab, yes and no.  you don't need to install "a bunch of ..."   you do need to do a bit of configuration05:22
vik_DrBanzai: but if getty is listening on ttyS1 and you're trying to use ttyS0, then there should be no conflict05:22
ivan`does anyone know of a fan control solution on the old powerbook 867mhz G4s that have a /proc/device-tree/uni-n@f8000000/i2c@f8001000/fan@188 ?05:22
bruenignatural20, just put it in your desktop that is fine. We will move it later05:22
DrBanzaivik_, So it would seem.05:22
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John[1] After I install the dapper server, I run apt-get update.  Then I run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  only I never end up with a desktop at reboot.  Any ideas?05:22
bruenigtell me when it is downloaded05:22
vik_DrBanzai: which is the one in inittab that was set to listen on the serial port? getty or mgetty?05:22
natural20bruenig: i lied, home does have a username folder.  the file is there05:22
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RamiKassabsethk: I had found a guide to help with with that and did it one time but it would work for a while then stop working. I think network manager messes it all up05:22
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bruenignatural20 ok, open up a terminal and do cd05:22
RamiKassabsethk: I had enabled ip forwarding and all that05:22
bruenignatural20, then do tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz05:23
DrBanzaivik_, mgetty, which I do not see listed in top05:23
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jackiehi, somebody can help me with 3d acceleration of nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  ? please. i just install ubuntu 6.06, but have no 3d. :(05:23
bruenig!nvidia05:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:23
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AWOSDevDev05, I'm signed up.  Now how do I PM you?05:24
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bruenignatural20, was that successful or what05:24
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natural20bruenig, the terminal just gave a new command line, that's it05:24
bruenignatural20, perfect05:24
fixIs there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?05:24
bruenignatural20, how do you want to run it. An icon on the desktop. A menu entry or what05:25
skallerok bimberi, thanks, that was a downgrade, it worked .. very confusing because i was making a chroot for Debian sid at the same time05:25
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bruenighow do you want to start firefox when you use it05:25
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cdcHello people could some one help me pls05:25
cdci get disconnected too often from the internet05:25
bruenig!ask05:25
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:25
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bimberiskaller: yw :)05:25
natural20bruenig: icon on the taskbar would be ideal, but i'll take anything.  desktop is fine05:25
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cdcin few seconds i use pppoe to connect to the internet05:25
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bruenigtaskbar? the panel?05:25
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fdsdhey guys, is there any usplash experts in here?05:26
cdcand after i get connected an other new interface by name ppp1 gets created automatically05:26
fix!ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
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cdcand i get disconnected.05:26
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natural20bruenig: to me taskbar = applications, places, system, etc05:26
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skallerbimberi can u explain the problem, will it be fixed?05:26
lupine_85fix - you want something called "ip forwarding"05:26
cdcskaller, is it for me ?05:26
lupine_85trivial to set up05:26
bruenignatural20, ok, go to applications>accessories>alacarte menu editor05:26
skallerbimberi05:26
bimberiskaller: no and yes :)05:26
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livesNboxhey guys -- i got my sprint evdo card working inside of Ubuntu -- is there a way I can share that internet connection via an ad hoc wireless connection to another laptop ?05:26
fixI'm not sure what I want..I am just trying to get internet on my other computer ;\05:26
lupine_85(as long as the PC in the middle is on linux, anyway!)05:27
dindinI just updated xserver-xorg and now X wont' start05:27
cdcskaller, could you help me please?05:27
lupine_85So you've got PC<->PC<->Internet ?05:27
natural20bruenig, i have no alacarte menu editor :( sorry05:27
bruenignatural20, when you get in there click on internet and then do file>new entry05:27
bruenignatural20, oh yeah breezy05:27
skallerbimberi: desktops wants to do the upgrade again, how can I tell when it is safe to do so?05:27
cdclupine_85, its a stand alone PC in my side05:27
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fixyeh lupine05:27
lupine_85dindin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1005:27
bruenigwell, panel or desktop is your choice I guess05:27
cdclupine_85, i use pppoeconf to configure the internet05:27
fixBut only temporarily05:27
natural20desktop is fine05:27
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bruenigright click on the desktop and select create launcher05:28
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skallerbimberi  .. ah .. lauchpad bug report .. ok05:28
lupine_85sorry cdc I don't have any idea re: your program (never used ppp)05:28
bruenigName it whatever you want Firefox 1.5 seems good to me05:28
bimberiskaller: idk for sure sorry, look for it wanting to install a version higher than ......10.305:28
riddleboxis there a way to tell the package updater not to even look at a certain package, I had to recompile ffmpeg with a certain parameter and now ubuntu wants to always update it05:28
DrBanzaivik_, Welp, I got work in the morning.  Thanks for the help...I may just have to wait till I wipe and install dapper05:28
natural20done05:28
cdchas anyone used pppoe on Ubuntu here ?05:28
fixlupine how would I do pc<-->pc<-->Internet ?05:28
cdcI am facing problems with pppoe connection05:28
brueniggive whatever comment you want. The only thing you must do is have the command say ~/firefox/firefox05:28
riddleboxcdc, whats the problem05:29
cdccan some one help me . i get disconnected from the internet in seconds05:29
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haasteem!repositories05:29
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:29
CyberMadwhat is the difference between ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso and ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ? i want install it in my laptop05:29
skallerbimberi: it probably has something to do with X win bindings to closed source GEForce driver05:29
cdcriddlebox, i get disconnected from the internet with in seconds i use pppoeconf to connect to the internet and a new interface by name ppp0 gets created but after few seconds an other interface by name ppp1 gets created05:29
cdcand i get disconnected05:29
bruenignatural20, if you want to icon, click on icon and the path should be /home/username/firefox/icons, of course replace username with your username05:29
bruenigthe icon*05:29
cdcriddlebox, whats that i am missing in the configuration05:30
cdci use pon dsl-provider05:30
cdcto start my connection05:30
lupine_85fix: on the middle (linux) pc, you should run 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'05:30
riddleboxcdc, hrmm I am looking05:30
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SidCyberMad: the dvd version contains both the livecd version AND the standard install version. The desktop version is a liveCD that you can install as well.05:30
bruenigwhen you get all of that sorted out. Hit ok or whatever it is and then that should work05:30
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skallercdc: your password?05:30
cdcriddlebox, when i start downloading something a new interface gets created05:30
fixlupine, should I run that with the computer that has internet or that needs internet?05:30
natural20bruenig: i click on the icon, but i get this error: Failed to execute child process "~firefox/firefox" (no such filre or directory)05:30
cdcskaller, password ? its perfect05:31
CyberMadSid thanks... i will choose the desktop version05:31
lupine_85then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that05:31
SidCyberMad: In other words, you can download either, and get a disc that lets you both run Ubuntu from disc and install it.05:31
lupine_85the one that already has internet05:31
cdcwhen i start downloading something i get disconnected05:31
SidCyberMad: good choice.05:31
lupine_85the setting will be wiped every time you reboot05:31
bruenignatural20, you have to use ~/firefox/firefox, the / is important after the `05:31
bruenig~05:31
fixOkay, after that what would I do?05:31
skallerwhen you download with firefox?05:31
dindinlupine_85: Thanks!05:31
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lupine_85[04:31]  <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that05:31
lupine_85dindin: that was @fix05:32
natural20bruenig my command is this:  ~/firefox/firefox05:32
riddleboxcdc, straight from google, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138.html05:32
bruenigyes05:32
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bruenigdoes that error. It might05:32
fixHow do i configure the 2 pc's to talk to each other through oneinterface?05:32
skallercdc: I think i know what is happening: some stupid program is trying to make a connection automatically05:32
natural20bruenig: error still05:32
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skallerand it is killing the old connection05:32
bruenigif it does error. You need to do /home/username/firefox/firefox, replace username with your own05:32
lupine_85just give them an IP in the same range05:32
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bruenigthat is the command05:32
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fixWhat is the command to give them both the same IP in the same range?05:33
KeithWeisshari just bought a WD MyBook drive, when I boot into linux the drive locks up and linux won't recognize the drive05:33
KeithWeissharwhen I reboot I get the error device descriptor read/64, error -11005:33
bruenigthis /home/username/firefox/firefox is the command05:33
k1ll3rr3danyone have experience with hula email?05:33
lupine_85ok, run 'ifconfig ethX <ip address>' on each computer05:33
McJerrylupine_85 I've been able to get a linksys wpc54gs working with ndiswrapper under ubuntu and it will negotiate an ip addy via dhcp with any essid without security05:33
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cdcriddlebox, ok one more question when i do make it says command not found which package should i install . I have installed automake05:33
McJerryhow can i get it to negotiate with an essid using wpa05:33
fixip address would be? 192.168.0.1 or something?05:33
KeithWeissharwhy does the drive lock up when initializing the usb mass storage driver05:34
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haasteemwhere do i find the hoary repositories?05:34
brandon123What is the command to install updates for ubuntu?05:34
bruenig!hoary05:34
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"05:34
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natural20bruenig: nothing happens with new command line05:34
cdci am unable to compile using make command.05:34
riddleboxcdc, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:34
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UpMarchi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?05:34
lupine_85fix: yes :). Choose something in a different range to your current ip address (e.g. say your middle PC has got 192.168.0.11 to talk to the router, use 192.168.1.1 to talk to the end PC)05:34
bruenignatural20, put that in the command part of the launcher not in the command line05:35
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bruenigand make sure you replace username with your username05:35
haasteembruenig: they're not there... ;)05:35
fixand this will resset on startup?05:35
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brandon123What is the command to install updates for ubuntu, anyone?05:35
mike654can i go from 64 bit to 32 bit without using the cd?05:35
bruenighaasteem, aren't they though05:35
dibblegoon installing I try to repartition my disk alongside windows but after partitioning occurs, the partition table doesn't look as if it has changed05:35
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dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get update05:35
bruenigwhy are you using hoary. Might as well get amiga going05:35
natural20bruening: yes, comand text feild of launcher, yes, baumbuffi instead of username05:35
lupine_85in addition, you'll need to run 'ifconfig ethX netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast <ip-but-ending-with.255>'05:35
dr_willisdibblego,  what are ya parttining them with?05:35
lupine_85fix: yes05:35
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brandon123dibblego i did that but that does not install the updates05:36
bruenignatural20, put that command in the command line now and see if it works05:36
bruenigin the terminal rather05:36
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bruenigput it in the terminal05:36
dibblegodr_willis, the installer thing that partitions them (forget the name and I'm not at the machine at this very point in time)05:36
dibblegobrandon123, which updates?05:36
McJerrybrandon123 in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
haasteem!upgrade05:36
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.05:36
lupine_85on the end pc, you'll also need to run 'ip route add default via <middle-pc-ip-address> dev ethX'05:36
dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get dist-update05:36
lupine_85all as root/sudo, of course05:36
mike654can i go from 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu without using a 32-bit CD?05:36
dibblegoer wait05:37
dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get upgrade (sorry)05:37
dr_willisdibblego,  some times a reboot is needed so the system can see the  changes05:37
bruenigmik654, I will say it is unlikely05:37
brandon123dibblego: thanx05:37
UpMarchi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?05:37
mike654yeah thought so, but worth asking05:37
haasteembruenig: there is a hoaryupgradenotes wiki05:37
JoseStefanany known issues with the latest xserver update on 6.06?05:37
fixi kind of forgot the commands so could you say them again in a private chat because all this talking is hard to comprehend05:37
natural20bruening: /home/baumbuffi/firefox/firefox does not work, nothing happens05:37
fixBTW, i really appreciate your jelp05:37
fixhelp*05:37
bruenigUpMarc, wine is not really that kind of application05:37
dibblegodr_willis, ok I'll try it05:37
McJerryanyone here using a linksys wpc54gs pcmcia wifi card?05:37
cdcriddlebox, i think i found it05:37
lupine_85 McJerry: well done :).05:38
bruenignatural 20 do "cd ~/firefox && ./firefox"05:38
haasteembruenig: i guess they must be that... at least they are not the ones in the /etc/apt/sources.list that comes with the hoary cd05:38
cdcriddlebox, initially the dsl-provider file had these 2 uncommented lines05:38
cdc#lcp-echo-interval 3005:38
cdc#lcp-echo-failure 405:38
lupine_85I'm not registered so I can't do /msg05:38
cdcbut now i ve commented out these05:38
fixoh05:38
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sethkbruenig, might be worthwhile to teach him tab completion.  that way at least whatever he types exists05:38
lupine_85tell you what, join #ubuntu-lupine05:38
cdcwill this solve the problem? i think it has but not very sure05:38
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fixokay thank you lupine05:38
dr_willisUpMarc,  normally ya download the program ya want to install. install wine, then do a 'wine installer.exe' and it 'should' put an icon in  the menus for the installed program.05:38
McJerrylupine_85, i still have an issue I need some direction with05:38
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natural20bruenig: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:39
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sethknatural20, bruenig ok, that answers that.  he needs libstdc++.so.505:39
UpMarcdr_willis: Wine is installed but not in the applications menu...05:39
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McJerrylinksys wpc54gs card negotiates link with any unsecured essid but i cannot negotiate link to my essid using wpa encryption.  Suggestions??05:39
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dr_willisUpMarc,  thats because you dont normally run just 'wine' you use 'wine windowsbinary.exe'05:40
John[1] what is the command to get the updated repositorys05:40
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JoseStefanAny known issues with the latest xserver-xorg update on dapper?05:40
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UpMarcbruenig: someone told me it would work like Window Movie Maker05:40
jackie!nvidia05:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:40
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bruenigUpMarc, what are you trying to do with wine05:40
DarkMageZJoseStefan, besides it breaking xorg, nope05:40
stephans3d accel doesn not work in intel 810 cards05:40
bruenig!Info libstdc++505:40
ubotuPackage libstdc5 does not exist in dapper05:40
sethkbruenig, I'll get the package name05:41
UpMarcbruenig: wanna run .wmv files and edit them05:41
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DarkMageZJoseStefan, i'd downgrading, or not upgrading05:41
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bruenigUpMarc, what application are you going to use to do that05:41
billytwowillyhey, is the macbook officially supported by ubuntu?05:41
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sethkbruenig, in breezy it's libstdc++505:41
dr_willisUpMarc,  you dont 'run' wmv's they are video files - that MAY be viewable in vlc, xine, mplayer, or totem.05:41
sethkbruenig, :)05:41
bruenigsethk05:41
dr_willisUpMarc,  some wmv's may not be viewable at all - it depends on the wmv codecs05:42
cdclet me check again05:42
UpMarcdr_willis: none of those read .wmv files :-(05:42
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sethkbruenig, there is also libstdc++5-3.3-dbg and libstdc++5-3.3-dev in breezy05:42
JoseStefanDarkMageZ, i find it very weird that an update can break so many setups05:42
chuckso uh, do I just like, ask a question?05:42
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dr_willisUpMarc,  they can IF the wmv codec is one they can handle.05:42
Sidchuck: indeed05:42
McJerrychuck, yes05:42
sethkbruenig, but I'm not sure those contains actual libraries05:42
UpMarcdr_willis: but where can I get codec for them?05:42
bruenigalright natural20, I hope this firefox is worth it. Try sudo apt-get install libstdc++505:42
dr_willis!w32codecs05:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:42
DarkMageZJoseStefan, me to, i can't believe such a bad package made it to the main repos...05:42
bruenigdev likely does not05:42
dr_willisUpMarc,  ya just asked a FAQ! :P05:42
Anubuntuhello, how do I mount an external usb harddrive via ubuntu?05:42
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wolfmanzwhats the command to list the drives connected to a computer?05:43
SidAnubuntu: you mean, it doesn't do it automatically for ya?05:43
Anubuntuwell05:43
Anubuntuits plugged in05:43
Anubuntunothings showing up in places05:43
dr_williswolfmanz,  'sudo fdisk -l' is one i use05:43
sethkbruenig, -dbg has the libraries05:43
Anubuntuit shows up in the device manager05:43
Anubuntubut no where else05:43
bruenignatural20, are you still there05:43
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Sidhmm05:43
sethkbruenig, -dev does also, in a gcc-lib directory05:44
natural20bruenig, yes, it is doing stuff05:44
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chuckawesome... so I was trying to get that fancy 3ddesktop thingy to work, and discovered I needed glx(?) which needs dri(?) ... then I read that dri isn't supported on my sis m760gx card, so is my situation hopeless?05:44
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bruenigas long as I don't have to do any path specifying, I will happy05:44
wweasel!ntfs05:44
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:44
danieleboyoi have a probelm with a partiton auto disabling itself after reboot05:44
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redsoxfan90can some1 pm me and help me?05:44
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natural20bruening: it appears to have worked05:44
sethkredsoxfan90, why not ask your question here?05:44
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bruenigredsox fan what do you need, you probably have a better chance will 78405:45
SidAnubuntu: sadly, this is where my expertise ends.05:45
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bruenignatural 20 retry that command I gave you earlier05:45
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bruenigthe one that ended ./firefox05:45
UpMarcok thank you all anyway05:45
natural20bruenig: YES!05:45
natural20YES YES YES05:45
JoseStefanDarkMageZ, I wonder if the package has missing dependencies, or a broken dependency tree05:45
bruenignatural20, redo that launcher thing and put that command in it05:45
Sidchuck: your sis card... 2D or 3D?05:45
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danieleboyoanyone willing to help me with an autodisabling partition?05:46
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natural20i had no need to do anything to the launcher05:46
rixthYo. How do I setup software raid?05:46
DarkMageZJoseStefan, possible, but that's for the maintainers to sort out :)05:46
chuckhmm... I don't know, how do I find out?05:46
lupine_85wpa_supplicant05:46
PlutarchYo, I don't know.05:46
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lupine_85!wpa_supplicant05:46
ubotuwpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB05:46
PlutarchHey Yo, what do you know?  Our flowers won't grow.05:46
bruenignatural20, you mean you just clicked the launcher and it worked?05:46
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natural20bruenig, correct05:46
bruenignatural20, ok well it should have worked originally but the library got in the way05:46
bruenigok well good then05:46
wweasel!fat3205:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:46
bruenigI am off to bed05:47
natural20bruenig, thank you so much05:47
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natural20sethk, thank you too05:47
danieleboyoany ideas? auto disabling partition after reboot05:47
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Sidchuck: at this point, it looks to me like you card's 3D capabilities may or may not be installed/supported under Ubuntu.05:47
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sethkdanieleboyo, usually you need to run fsck, possibly with non-standard arguments or y interactive answers, to fix the partition05:48
Sidchuck: heh, you wouldn't happen to know someone called himeka?05:48
danieleboyosethk: could you elaborate a bit more please?05:48
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lupine_85did you get that McJerry?05:48
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chuckhmm, no, who's himeka?05:49
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sethkdanieleboyo, tell me exactly what is happening05:49
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yurtlehello can somone direct me to a php-nuke channel ?05:49
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brandon123I updated xorg and now i cant get on it :( anyone help?05:49
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weirdoi need help following directions on this forum.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14506805:49
inrelief_hey all, i've got totem with the xine backend and i'm trying to play encrypted dvd's with no luck05:49
weirdoone of their code has a smiley face in it..05:49
lupine_85brandon123: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1005:49
Sidchuck: someone I know who shares your e-mail domain. Alas.05:50
weirdosearch for #video.driver:auto05:50
danieleboyosethk: what happens is that i have a partition that starts disabled and i am able to enable it, but upon reboot, its is disabled again05:50
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weirdowhat should have been in place of the smiley face?05:50
brandon123lupine_85 thankyou very much05:50
lupine_85np05:50
sethkdanieleboyo, how do you enable it?05:50
sethkdanieleboyo, and what do you mean exactly by disabled?05:50
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JoseStefanlupine_85, i just used the "/dapper" method, seems more standard-ish05:50
Sidchuck: but yeah, I'm trying to look up your card right now05:51
Sidchuck: is it a laptop that uses your card?05:51
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danieleboyoit no longer is a mounted, and i enable it by going to the default disk editor that comes with dapper05:51
wolfmanzdr_willis: thanks for that info.05:51
sethkdanieleboyo, I suspect that the file system isn't clean, and during the boot process it is not mounted for that reason05:52
chuckyeah, one of those darn acers05:52
dr_williswolfmanz,  linux FUNdamentals05:52
sethkdanieleboyo, run dmesg, and see if there are any messages about something not mounted05:52
chuckwhat does my e-mail domain show up as?05:52
sethkdanieleboyo, the message might also be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog05:52
weirdoanyone wanna check for me?05:52
rukuarticCan anyone point me to an indepth/comprehensive guide on filepermissions? Or even better--if a few people could just sit and talk with me a moment through prvmsgs, that would be awesome.05:52
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sethkdanieleboyo, if you don't find anything, with the partition not mounted, run fsck.xxxx (fsck.ext3, fsck.ext2, whichever one first the partition's file system)05:53
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sethkdanieleboyo, see if it asks you whether or not to fix things.05:53
Sidchuck: sympatico.ca05:53
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danieleboyosethk: umm dmesg is really long05:53
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dr_willisrukuartic,  theres a great many beginner linxu guides out there ya should read/bookmark. (google for them) and check out the tldp.org site and its guides05:53
ad0leman, really messed up my sound... added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?05:53
sethkdanieleboyo, try something like   dmesg | grep -i mount05:53
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Sidchuck: and chuck, yeah... I don't know whether or not your SIS card has drivers in Ubuntu. And, naturally, the 3D desktop requires 3D drivers, I'm afraid.05:54
tonyyarussorukuartic: The man pages for chmod and chown will also be helpful.05:54
gxmamealgum aki poderia me ajudar :)05:55
sethk!es05:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:55
sethkit's not exactly spanish, but that's as close as I could come  :)05:55
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JoseStefanif they fix the xserver-xorg-core problem, Where would be the 1st place to know ?05:55
sethkis that port?05:55
tonyyarussosethk: I think it's Portugese...05:55
tonyyarusso!pt05:55
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:55
chuckhmm, what's aiglx?  it seems to have a set of dri kernel modules05:55
sethktonyyarusso, right05:55
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danieleboyosethk: itsays... Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rwauto" or missing value05:56
sethkdanieleboyo, ok05:56
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sethkdanieleboyo, I think it is supposed to be errors=remount,rwauto05:56
sethklet me check05:56
rukuartictonyyarusso: Well... actually I've been looking. I've read a few articles, but I'm having a tad of trouble. For example, I've added a test user (no sshd, don't worry :P) and I'm trying to figure out why when /home/test is rwxr-x--- I can't read it (yes I'm part of the test group)05:57
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sethkdanieleboyo, no,05:57
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sethkdanieleboyo, probably noauto05:57
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bj_Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, change it to errors=remount,noauto05:57
danieleboyoin fstab?05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, but that won't mount it05:57
redsoxfan90were can i paste something05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, yes, in fstab, take out the noauto altogether05:57
rukuarticbj_: so you know, i've had that problem too :P05:58
rukuartic!paste05:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, rwauto isn't a correct option, at least according to the docs05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, possibly it should be errors=remount,rw,auto05:58
bj_rukuartic: did you get it fixed?05:58
tonyyarussorukuartic: Do the files in the folder have matching permissions?  What filesystem?05:58
danieleboyomaybe..05:58
danieleboyoill try them05:58
rukuarticbj_: nope P wish I did...05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, but rw and auto are defaults, so you can take them out05:58
Sidchuck: aiglx is an alternative to xgl; it's basically another 3D desktop deal05:58
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Sidchuck: ( I think)05:58
redsoxfan90http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2136205:58
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redsoxfan90can someone please tell me my problem in there05:59
wweaselDoes anyone here use the thing at www.fs-driver.com to read/write ext3 under windows? Do you know if it has stable write support for ext3?05:59
sexualpotatoeshas ati 3d accel been fixed in 6.06?05:59
rukuartictonyyarusso: ext3 I'm pretty sure. there's only one visible file in the directory, and its 77005:59
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verbosedumb question, but what is the package with the kernel source tree called?05:59
redsoxfan90me?05:59
rummikok, this prolly sounds stupid, but i just updated xorg and it isn't working anymore06:00
PlutarchI'M GAY.06:00
sexualpotatoesfantastic06:00
tonyyarussoverbose: linux-source (or linux-source-$version)06:00
PlutarchYEAH, IT'S GREAT, ISN'T IT?06:00
sexualpotatoesit depends...06:00
redsoxfan90http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362\06:00
McJerryredsoxfan90 first glimpse looks like you need to resolve your dependencies06:00
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redsoxfan90ok mc06:00
sexualpotatoeslesbian?06:00
tonyyarussoPlutarch: Please don't spam the channel with that sort of thing.06:00
PlutarchDOES IT DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU'RE A SEXUAL POTATO?06:00
PlutarchOkay, no problem.06:01
sexualpotatoesit depends on whether you are male or female lol06:01
IcemanV9redsoxfan90: sudo apt-get -f install06:01
PlutarchI have to watch the Simpsons06:01
PlutarchOn my new Dell monitor06:01
tonyyarussorukuartic: So it says you don't have permissions to see that then?  Is this in Gnome, cli, or both?  (Like, will 'cat filename' work even if Nautilus won't?)06:01
Plutarch24", baby.06:01
rummikhow do i downgrade to my previous xorg?06:01
verbosetonyyarusso: thanks06:02
First|BlehPlutarch: mine is only 19" but my dell ultrasharp has been great.06:02
i3dInrummik: that could be painful task to do06:02
First|Blehalthough i wouldn't buy anything else from them06:02
PlutarchSweet.06:03
PlutarchWhy?06:03
bimberi!xorgbug > rummik06:03
PlutarchThis 24" is insanely awesome.06:03
oconnoreI'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?06:03
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First|Blehexploding laptops and horrible tech support ring a bell?06:03
rukuartictonyyarusso: I'm actually just working in bash... I try cd /home/test and I get "permission denied". let me try nautilus really quick.06:03
rummiki2dIn: well, what should i do then? xorg is borked...06:03
upgrdman6.06 is the latest version, right?06:03
PlutarchDoes their one true treasure line ring a bell?06:03
First|Bleh6.06-106:03
rummik*i3dIn06:03
PlutarchA treasure line as in the monitors they have for sale.06:03
wweaselQuestion: How safe is NTFS write support?06:04
i3dInrummik: it will only break more dependencies if you downgrade06:04
bimberirummik: look for a /msg from ubotu06:04
PlutarchFrankly, their monitors kick ass.06:04
First|BlehPlutarch: yes..i said the monitor was great.06:04
bimberi!xorgbug06:04
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715806:04
First|Blehdid you not read that?06:04
PlutarchObviously not.06:04
PlutarchMy bad.06:04
tonyyarussoFirst|Bleh: (I think it's actually .1, not -1, not that it matters terribly unless giving the ISO download URL)06:04
rukuartictonyyarusso: Update--Doesn't work in nautilus either.06:04
PlutarchBut would that deter you from upgrading to a better monitor?06:04
i3dInrummik: the way you can try is to apt-get to a specific version of xserver-xorg06:04
jackiehi, i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-20c0b7106f06055eed889efe3946f560c34a8b1a      to install 3d of geforce 5200, but  when i sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, it tells me "error: your x configuration has been altered. this script cannot automatically. if you bellieve that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11xorg.cong .06:04
jackiemd5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver section from nv to nvidia." what should i do???06:04
rummikhow do i switch to ubotu's message in irssi?06:05
wweaselGuys? How safe is it to enable write support for NTFS partitions?06:05
rummikwait..nm06:05
tonyyarussorukuartic: Can I see the ls -l of /home/test and groups rukuartic, just to see for myself?06:05
rukuarticwweasel: not very much.06:05
bimberirummik: alt-2 (or 3 or 4 ...)06:05
rukuartictonyyarusso: sure06:05
JoseStefanrummik, got an answer yet?06:05
PlutarchFirst|Bleh?06:05
IcemanV9wweasel: bad idea :/06:05
adammichaelroachjackie, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf go to Device where it says nv and change it to nvidia06:05
JoseStefanrummik, try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:06
DarkMageZwweasel, currently we advise against it, tho i've heard good stuff about ntfs-3g if you are game enough to try it06:06
sethkjackie, you have to have left out part of that message06:06
sethkjackie, paste it into a pastebot if you can06:06
wweaselrukuartic, IcemanV9: that's what I always felt, but alot of people do it, so I wanted to be sure.06:06
tonyyarussowweasel: I've never done it myself.  I've talked to people who have and say it's fine, but everyone seems to include the caveat about it.  I think I'd try it on an unimportant system only to find out maybe.06:06
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First|BlehPlutarch: No, because their monitors are generally solid. It's their other products that I can't have any faith in that I wouldn't buy.06:06
sethktonyyarusso, don't do it06:06
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PlutarchThat's a rather smart approach to Dell.06:06
sethktonyyarusso, it has known limitations, not just bugs06:06
sexualpotatoesnot buying anything from dell is smarter06:07
tonyyarussosethk: Oh?  Haven't heard of those - what are they?06:07
ad0leanyone willing to help with my sound issue?06:07
sethktonyyarusso, I believe related to extended the size of a file.06:07
PlutarchI disagree partially, sexualpotatoes06:07
naasmart approach to dell?06:07
PlutarchYes.06:07
sexualpotatoessmart approach is to not buy from them06:07
First|Blehmy tower is all custom built..i wouldn't buy a PC from any mainstream producer.06:07
PlutarchNah.06:08
ad0leadded snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, but it's not. Any ideas?06:08
rummikouch, typing all the stuff ubotu sent is a pain...06:08
First|Blehat least i know what hardware i'm getting06:08
sexualpotatoessmart approach to dell is an oxymoron06:08
PlutarchFirst|Bleh has his opinions right.06:08
rummiki shoulda checked to see if i had gpm installed...06:08
oconnorecan someone help me?06:08
PlutarchYes, sexualpotatoes, to you.06:08
tonyyarussosethk: Ah.  Well, no real plans anyway, since I don't use my Windows any more and am probably just wiping it soon anyway.06:08
IcemanV9!offtopic06:08
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:08
sexualpotatoesand sane people06:08
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PlutarchWhat about insane people?06:08
sethkFirst|Bleh, you get cheap hardware and save money.  whether that make sense for you depends on your situation.06:08
JoseStefanrummik, you just need to undo the last update right?06:08
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sethkoconnore, don't ask someone to help, ask a question06:09
PlutarchDo you mean to say that Dell hardware is cheap, sethk?06:09
First|Blehsethk: right06:09
sexualpotatoesgood thing we're not off topic right06:09
rummikJoseStefan: yeah, that's all06:09
oconnoresethk, I already did06:09
JoseStefanrummik, try:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:09
cyphasehttp://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/21/space.tourist.ap/06:09
oconnoreI'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?06:09
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sexualpotatoeswhy do i impulsively click all links that i see...06:10
jackieadammichaelroach, sethk ,thanks06:10
sexualpotatoeswhy do you send that?06:10
bj_do sata drives need dma?06:10
sexualpotatoes*did06:10
First|Blehhttp://whoresofwarcraft.com06:10
sethkoconnore, I hadn't seen the question, sorry.06:10
rummikJoseStefan: that looks like it's working06:10
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sexualpotatoeslmao06:10
_tccO.O06:10
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oconnoreno problem06:10
help_mehey...06:10
sethkoconnore, which video hardware do you have?06:10
PlutarchHEY06:11
help_mekinda got a problem...06:11
PlutarchHELP ME06:11
rummikJoseStefan: will this be the one that was on the cd i used to install?06:11
help_mei forgot my login info lol06:11
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rukuartic!help06:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:11
bimberirummik: just be aware that that downgrades 2 versions06:11
phargle!caps06:11
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:11
JoseStefanrummik, should be the same yes06:11
PlutarchI'LL SHOUT06:11
sexualpotatoeshow do you shout with a keyboard?06:11
PlutarchI CAN READ UPPERCASE06:11
help_mei can login to the recovery console...06:11
sethkhelp_me, boot the live cd or a rescue cd and find out06:11