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UpMarcHi... I'm a beginner in Linux evironment12:01
HellDragonwell while it downloads the things i will go clean the dishes BRB12:01
lixHellDragon: :-D12:01
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lixUpMarc: Welcome! ;)12:01
lupine_85in that case your sound manager is esd. I'm in kde, so can't be as great help... but get into whatever passes for gnome control panel and disable esd12:01
Stormzoekerhi everyone ;)12:01
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mweben_: well I don't think I can help. Personally my life is too short to spend days or weeks just getting a game to run12:02
UpMarcopenning a website with Mozilla, I got the message: Java Not Found or Not Working12:02
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UpMarccan someone help me to fix that?12:02
lupine_85it's possibly monopolising your sound hardware to itself so nothing else can use it12:02
lixUpMarc: Any Website?12:02
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lixUpMarc: Or a scpecific one?12:02
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chris__hi is there a good way to test my joystick? i plugged it in and i get in messages... " input: GreenAsia Inc.    USB Joystick      as /class/input/input5"......."usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5"12:02
lupine_85 try using the ESounD plugin for xmms first, though12:02
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F0LL0W3Rhow can i add new user to an existance home directory like /home/oem ?12:03
CurtmanGreat.. the upgrade to xserver-xorg-core busted my X server.  I downgraded to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb, and everything works great again.12:03
UpMarcI visited others that worked perfectly12:03
mirkashlupine, I'm not sure about monopol, because I cant hear any sound12:03
mweF0LL0W3R: sudo vipw and change the homedir12:03
TheGateKeeperUpMarc: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox12:03
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lupine_85FOLLOW3R: man useradd12:03
tyler_dwhat is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?12:03
lamegoF0LL0W3R, please expect troubles unless you really know what you are doing12:04
mirkashlupine, i tried changing plugins in xmms and always the same error12:04
UpMarcTheGateKeeper: Thanks a lot... will go there12:04
lupine_85mirkash: all the modules are loaded properly so it *should* be working12:04
lixUpMarc: Did you yet install the Java Environment? (It's an other License than the "common" one, that Ubuntu uses)12:04
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lixUpMarc: Or try: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/12:04
lupine_85tbh, sound in linux is still a complete mess12:04
TheGateKeeperUpMarc: yw :-) that wiki has flash and a whole lot more12:04
UpMarclix: I just installed the common ones12:04
mirkashlupine, is there any conf file which may be relevant12:04
Quicksilvaim a linux newb :p12:05
Quicksilvagot xvidtune-1.0.1.tar.bz2 now12:05
lupine_85not really - it's all kernel-level stuff12:05
Quicksilvahow do i ru it?12:05
lupine_85erm, it's installed by default12:05
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Quicksilvaoh12:05
lupine_85in /usr/bin/X1!12:05
ocjeunessesalut12:05
lupine_85X11 rather12:05
lupine_85sorry, should have said12:05
ocjeunessebonjour12:05
lamegoQuicksilva, there is xvtune on the repositories12:05
lamegoxvidtune i mean12:05
mwexvidtune is in /usr/bin here12:06
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marguihi12:06
lupine_85mirkash: actually, one thing it could be is the mixer... try running alsamixer and seeing if anything is muted or similar12:06
livingdaylighthow do i remove a directory?12:06
viatorthe qemu howto is outdated12:06
tyler_dwhat is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?12:06
lamegolivingdaylight, rmdir dir12:06
lamegoif its not empty12:06
lixlivingdaylight: in the command line?12:06
lamegorm -rf dir12:06
looktj!wike12:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
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viatoryou cant get the kqemu  using it12:06
looktj!wiki12:06
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation12:06
lamegotake care, there is no trash bin for "rm"12:06
marguican't configure WPA wireless on my Ubuntu... I'd apreciate your help12:06
HellDragonbacl12:06
livingdaylightlix: is there another way?12:06
HellDragonlix: i get errors12:06
livingdaylightlamego: thx12:06
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fdoving112:07
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mirkashalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device12:07
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HellDragon /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb12:07
HellDragonE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:07
HellDragoni get that12:07
HellDragon:(12:07
HellDragoni dont want it to install rageircd !!!12:07
Ychwhats a good program to split a large mp3 file using .cues?12:07
lixlivingdaylight: you can remove it in the command line with "rmdir directoryname" or in the window manager (using the delete key or right mouse click)12:07
HellDragonits already installed !12:07
Adam_Ghello all. Gdesklets is on top of all my applications... how do I make it "behave?" :P12:07
viatoranyone know how to do that?12:07
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:07
lamegoHellDragon, try: sudo apt-get upgrade -f12:07
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HellDragonlamego: already tried12:07
HellDragonlamego: i get the same error12:07
lixHellDragon: sudo apt-get remove --purge rageircd12:08
HellDragonlix: same error12:08
HellDragoni tried everything12:08
lamegoHeartsbane, apt-get remove --force-yes ?12:08
HellDragonit always try to install rageircd for whatever i do12:08
HellDragon:(12:08
lamegoHellDragon, thats is because you have tried it, an unsucessful attempt12:08
YeTr2I don't suppose there is a list of other repositories for things that arn't already in uni & multi for ubuntu12:08
lixHellDragon: Can you paste the error somewhere pls?12:08
marguiI can't configure my wi-fi connection with WPA encryption... any idea?12:09
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HellDragonim trying something 2mins12:09
lamegoYeTr2, there are plenty on the net, but you should use them with care, the wrong list can break your system very easly12:09
lupine_85mirkash: either the alsa drivers aren't working properly, or the card isn't called default anymore12:09
lupine_851 second12:09
mwe!wpa > margui12:09
marguiWEP is working fine, so my card works well12:09
livingdaylightlix: sorry, i see no delet key either in nautilus or when i right-click12:09
Quicksilvathanks alot lupine_85 & lamego12:09
Quicksilvagot it working :D12:09
lixHellDragon: using the "-f" (force option) it should work12:09
HellDragonnop12:09
mwemargui: see /msg from ubotu12:09
lupine_85sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base perhaps?12:09
lamegoYeTr2, you are better to compile your own or ask to someone from the ubuntu community to get you the deb packages12:09
YeTr2lamego: I already understand the implications of using software not maintained by the distro, Im' asking if there is a list some where12:09
lixlivingdaylight: and "move to Trash-bin" ?12:10
lamegoYeTr2, ok, you understood it until the point that it can completely break your entire system ?12:10
mirkashlupine, i got only one card, ac97 onboard12:10
lupine_85livingdaylight: shift+f2 for delete, IIRC12:10
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:10
lupine_85erm, shift+del, rather12:10
lupine_85shift+f2 is ?rename?12:10
marguimwe: I can't find the answer on the WifiDocs...12:10
YeTr2lamego: which is why I do backups12:10
tyler_dhow do I install a personal security manager?12:11
viator!kqemu12:11
ubotukqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8612:11
m4rkwtf is kqemu12:11
ben_anyone know?12:11
lamegoYeTr2, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:11
m4rkben42: know what?12:11
mwemargui: did you read the wpa howto there?12:11
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ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:12
lupine_85mirkash: that's what's strange12:12
marguimwe: yep12:12
looktj!doc12:12
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com12:12
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mwemargui: and where did it not work?12:12
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looktj!dapper doc12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper doc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
livingdaylightok, i got two users added to my system, how can i remove 'em?12:12
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:12
looktjgrr12:12
lupine_85userdel12:12
HellDragon:(12:13
lamegolivingdaylight, man useradd12:13
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FrostbiteSoon, I am going to have to hand a 4 server cluster over to somebody with very little Linux experience.  Two servers will be LVS directors running MySQL and Exim/DBMail and another two servers running Lighttpd/nsd.  Everything will be run in daemontools so that they auto-restart if they crash and everything will be configured and running.  I'm installing a few gui's to simplify it for them why they learn.  Mail will be administered through a we12:13
Frostbiteb gui, DBMail Administrator, which seems pretty comprehensive.  Can anyone recommend a GUI for controlling any other aspects of the server?  As long as they don't change anything, can you see any problem with them just apt-getting now and again?  Everything's redundant, which should give me time to get back and fix it.12:13
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looktjwhere can i find commands for teraminals12:13
m4rklivingdaylight: why do you want to remove users? what did they do wrong?? :(12:13
lamegolivingdaylight, read on the bottom, it tells you about useradd12:13
acojlohi12:13
looktj!command12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
HellDragonlix: i still get errors12:13
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:13
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livingdaylightm4rk: i create and i destroy12:13
livingdaylight :)12:14
marguimwe: wpa_supplicant doesn't work12:14
acojloI have problem with suspend: when I do suspend which works, but resume does not, after another boot my /etc/default/acpi-support file have changed content. Sometimes it's copied content of ld.so.conf or hosts file12:14
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lixHellDragon: can you paste them somewhere?12:14
mwemargui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?12:14
HellDragonlix: ok12:14
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lassegswhats up guys12:14
iarwain_ben-adarhi =)12:15
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:15
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marguimwe: and I don't know how to use Network Manager12:15
UpMarcTheGateKeeper:got on installation the following msg:  sun-java5-jre not found :-(12:15
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HellDragonlix: http://pastebin.ca/14317012:15
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mwemargui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?12:16
lamegoUpMarc, you need to enable the universe/multiverse repositories12:16
m4rkdon't delete users or they will hunt you down and do nasty things to you12:16
UpMarcIamego: how do I do that?12:16
marguimew: first of all, I installed Network manager12:16
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HellDragoni got the rage :(12:16
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lamegoUpMarc, help.ubuntu.com12:16
lamegoplease read the deskto guide12:16
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mwemargui: if you install network manager in case it isn't already, logging out of gnome and back in should give you a status icon to click12:17
UpMarcI'm really new to all this (2 weeks)12:17
looktj!multimedia12:17
ubotuFor multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:17
ben_i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?12:17
lupine_85 mirkash: try running alsamixer -c 012:17
lamegoUpMarc, you should read the guide on the 1st day ;)12:17
lupine_85and if that doesn't work, -c 112:17
derrickhIs there an easy way to create an image (ISO) from a DVD?12:17
kingwolfWhen Firestarter displays destination of GAIM interactions, is it listing the messenger service IP or the end-user IP?12:17
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lamegoben_, no we don't12:17
lupine_85and so on up to -c 712:17
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lixHellDragon: Gat an error when you tyr "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb" ?12:17
SuperdudeHEY GUYS12:17
UpMarcIamego: I tryed... but it's too much information to keep....12:17
marguimwe: yep, I did that, but it can't find my network12:17
HellDragonlix: yes12:17
HellDragonlix: same error12:17
lupine_85derrich: dd if=/dev/hdXX of=/path/to/wanted/iso12:18
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lamegoUpMarc, just use the "Search" button it is really helpfull :)12:18
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derrickhlupine: thanks12:18
lupine_85adding bs=4M will probably give you faster performance12:18
lixHellDragon: there is an error unpacking the file12:18
kingwolfOr: How do I run trace on a GAIM/yahoo user?12:18
marguimwe: "can't find any network device"12:18
HellDragonlix: weird12:18
mirkashmirkash@ubuntu:/$ alsamixer -c 012:18
mirkashwrong -c argument '0'12:18
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kingwolf!trace12:18
HellDragonlix: but rage is already installed i dont know why it wants to reinstall it all time12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
mwemargui: It wont show if you have already tried to configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces12:18
lupine_85any of the others (1 2 3 ... 7) work?12:18
Mic__haelimporting from my camera works fine; but what mount point does it use??12:19
lupine_85that error is what it gives when the specified card doesn't exist12:19
lixHellDragon: but "sudo apt-get remove --purge -f rageircd" should do it12:19
HellDragonnop12:19
lupine_85(in it's eyes)12:19
mwemargui: and if you use the network manager you will only be able to connect from gnome12:19
marguimwe: so, first of all, I must delete that file?12:19
UpMarcIamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"12:19
mwemargui: no12:19
HellDragoni get:  what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid12:19
HellDragonAbandon12:19
HellDragonthen it fails12:19
UpMarcmore than12:19
lixHellDragon: Did you also try to fix it by using synaptic? ;)12:19
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kingwolfAnd: Why does gaim not work for "block user".12:19
HellDragonlix: yes12:19
mwemargui: just the entry for you card. DON'T delete the entire file12:19
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lixHellDragon: dsol!12:20
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UpMarcIamego: that makes it very difficult for a beginner12:20
HellDragon:(12:20
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lamegoUpMarc, it is hard for a beginner to use a "Search Box" ?12:20
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lamegoUpMarc, dont think so :)12:20
UpMarcIamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"12:21
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marguimargui: ok, and then... where I put my connections values: IP, gateway...?12:21
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Nkumik1Hey can someone help me out... I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 cd in the mail and I try to install it... When I am resizing my partitions it fails, is there someway to get around this?  The partition I am trying to resize is a windows ntfs partition... thanks!12:21
lamegoUpMarc, help.ubuntu.com, which part of the "Add/Remove" applications can't you read on the index ?12:21
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mwemargui: you're not gonna use dhcp?12:22
lupine_85 mirkash: also what's the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' ?12:22
lassegsNkumik1 you know you will end up deleting the content of the ntfs disk?12:22
kingwolfAnyone know anything about fingering a person who is on gaim/yahoo messenger?  My room-mate has been receiving threats from a person on gaim and gaim doesn't seem to support "block user".12:22
lixHellDragon: and using the "--reinstall" option?12:22
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Quicksilvasimple question.  how do i run stuff from .tar.gz format12:22
Nkumik1just resizing it will delete the contents of it?12:22
lamegoUpMarc, and the "Extra Repositories", on the index, what is your problem to read it ?12:22
mirkashlupine , nosoundcards12:22
misieqer... right, why am i here? ah.. i was wondering... if it's possible to make some sort of switch that would be controlled by a regular linux box that could operate light in my room, turn the cofee express on etc. any ideas suggestion where to look for such thingy?12:22
UpMarcIamego: This was the first place I looked for.... and I didn't find it... :-(12:22
HellDragonlix: doesnt work12:22
mwemargui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work12:22
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:22
HellDragonlix: i need to go now ill be back in like 1 hour12:22
ZonoidMy laptop's external cd-rom drive is conflicing with Ubuntu booting from the live cd. Is there anything I can do about this?12:22
lupine_85ok; how about we uninstall and reinstall alsa?12:23
viator!vmware12:23
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare12:23
marguimwe: no, I use static IP12:23
mwemargui: that way you'll be able to get online even if gnome breaks12:23
profoX`xserver-xorg kills X12:23
profoX`newest updat12:23
profoX`to xserver-xorg-core12:23
lassegsNkumik1 afraid so. you have to use partition magic to resize it without loosing data. thats windows software btw12:23
mwemargui: I think you can add that to the network manager but I'm not sure12:23
UpMarcIamego: I don't even know where these places are... I have done very few yet in this new environment12:23
mwemargui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work, really12:23
Nkumik1alright well thank you I will get off of the ubuntu live and go resize through windows thanks!12:23
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UpMarcbecause everything is very difficult to me12:23
lassegsNkumik1 even then you should back up your important data cause it might screw up the partition (even though its pretty safe)12:23
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UpMarcI don't know where things are :-(12:24
marguimwe: I see...12:24
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lassegsdamn he left to early12:24
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?12:24
ZonoidUbuntu cannot mount the CD from my external cd-rom drive on my laptop. Is there anything I can do to fix this?12:24
mwemargui: think about it. if gnome fails to start you can't get online if you use nwm12:24
viatoranyone know how to make a vmware image using qemu?12:24
ZonoidBrandonThe: It looks like you're having my same problem!12:24
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AdemanprofoX`: what? what do you mean it kills x?12:24
lassegsZonoid: hi, you fixed the hdc issue?12:24
lamegoUpMarc, sorry, if reading is difficul to you, even a 15 lines text, i can't help you12:24
erUSULmargui: the version network manager in dapper can not work with static ip. is known bug12:24
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ZonoidLassegs: Not exactly. It looks like it had to do with my CD-rom drive the whole time.12:25
UpMarcok... ty, anyway :-(12:25
ZonoidFor awhile I thought I fixed it.12:25
lamegoUpMarc, specially with words like "Add/Rremove application"12:25
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mwemargui: of if you decide to try a different wm it wont work anymore either12:25
profoX`Ademan: last update to xserver-xorg-core makes X unstartable12:25
lassegsZonoid: you only have the external cd drive?12:25
UpMarcIamego: I went there... but couldn't find it :-(12:25
ZonoidLassegs: Yes. My laptop doesn't have one built in.12:25
marguimwe: on the other hand, I don't know how to set up my network card using nwm...12:25
profoX`Ademan: 3 friends have the same problem12:25
jvaihey all.. sorry for bein late... for class12:25
Jenocinhey people, is it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to 6 without a reinstall?12:25
jvailol12:25
AdemanprofoX`: wow, how did it get released?...12:25
AdemanJenocin: yep12:25
lamegoJenocin, it is, but I do advise you to do a reinstall instead12:26
lassegsZonoid: gees man, that sounds like a icky problem.. good luck with that12:26
eggzeckI didn't even know that if you hover over a "*.mp3" or a "*.ogg" and stay for about 1-3 seconds, it automatically plays a preview12:26
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profoX`Ademan: I have no idea. it should really get tested better before they release something broken like this ._. i can image alot of people not knowing what to do when their X doesn't want to load up anymore after their last update12:26
blockydoes anyone know what this line in my Xorg log means12:26
AdemanJenocin: I believe you just have to change your sources.list from breezy to dapper i believe12:26
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marguimwe: ok, so it's better to use wpa_supplicant directly...12:26
ZonoidLassegs: Do you know if it's possible to download the distro on the computer and install it on that same system?12:26
blocky(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  Failed to remmap MC AGP aperture base!12:26
AdemanprofoX`: ctrl+alt+f1  :-)12:26
JenocinAdeman: how likely is it that will crash the system :-P12:26
TubaSoldierXORG PROBLEMS? DOWNGRADE https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:27
mwemargui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo explains it well. ignore the part about network manager12:27
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lassegszonoid: i dont. ask the channel12:27
AdemanJenocin: tons of people do it, but I dont know exactly how, ask someone who knows better than me :-)12:27
ZonoidIs it possible to download Ubuntu and install it on the same system you downloaded it to?12:27
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ZambeziI always forget, how can I change the rights too one specific folder without harming the system. The folder is on an extra harddrive, so it's not on the system harddrive.12:27
lamegoZonoid, if you save it to a CD, yes12:27
JenocinAdeman: hehe ok, I'll make sure I have a bare metal first12:27
AdemanZonoid: of course, but you have to burn it to a cd of course12:27
profoX`Ademan: sure, but alot of people will be clueless about what to do (right now, not alot of people would know how to downgrade the package again, and if the package gets fixed so you can update again; alot of people dont know how to do that in the terminal)12:28
marguimwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?12:28
mweZonoid: you mean from within another distro?12:28
mirkashlupin, how tu unuinstall12:28
ZonoidLamego and Ademan: The problem is that my CD-rom drive on my laptop is external, so it won't mount the CD.12:28
mweZonoid: it is. why not run the installer though?12:28
JenocinZonoid: u tryng to boot the cd?12:28
AdemanZonoid: you can't boot from a usb device? my BIOS supports that...12:28
mweZonoid: oh12:28
lamegoZonoid, so no, you can't install it12:28
ZonoidJenocin: Yes.12:28
lupine_85removing the alsa-base module should do it12:28
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lupine_85make sure that it's a purge12:28
JenocinZonoid: u have a floppy12:28
ZonoidJenocin: That drive is external as well.12:28
lupine_85e.g. apt-get remove --purge alsa-base12:28
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AdemanZonoid: so your computer is just a bunch of USB ports? :-p12:29
lassegsAdeman: its a laptop from 98 so i dont think Zonoids laptop can boot from usb12:29
JenocinZonoid: can u boot from the floppy though? I have a boot disk that will boot the usb cddrive12:29
ZonoidAdeman: Basically :-)12:29
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bandaidI want to dual boot ubuntu, I already partitioned space on my other hard drive and installed it but don't know how to make it boot12:29
JenocinZonoid: or possible pxe on your net card?12:29
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ZonoidJenocin: It seems to at least boot the CD, but it hangs at "Mounting" for awhile, and the farthest it gets if you wait forever is the splash screen.12:29
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AdemanZonoid: well there's got to be a way, but I wouldn't know, i'm not a boot master12:29
lassegsbandaid: did you install grub or some bootloader?12:29
marguimwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?12:30
JenocinZonoid: did u try the safe mode?12:30
bandaidhow do I do that12:30
AdemanZonoid: check that the ISO has the right checksum12:30
lupine_85then just reinstall alsa-base12:30
ZonoidAdeman: How do you check that?12:30
mwemargui: you don't do that with wpa_supplicant. you do it in the interfaces file12:30
profoX`Ademan: if the problem is as big as it sounds (if the problem applies to alot of / all people) then it must be bad testing by the devs. And it should never have gotten into the (stable) dapper-updates branch. If this problem really is a maintainer's fault, than I think they should be more careful about what they release.12:30
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mwemargui: wpa_supplicant only takes care of WPA12:30
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AdemanZonoid: under windows? i don't know google for md5 checksum12:30
achandrabanaid: typically the bootloader grub just works out of the box...is it popping up with the bootloader at all?12:30
lamegoZonoid, md5sum.exe12:31
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ZonoidLamego: Thanks.12:31
lassegsbandaid: its been a while since i installed ubuntu but i think it asks you if you wants to install a bootloader (grub)12:31
achandrabanaid: giving you options?12:31
AdemanZonoid: and then compare what it outputs to what it says on the download page12:31
AdemanZonoid: and you burned it as an iso not a file to the cd right?12:31
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ZonoidAdeman: Yes. It boots on another computer.12:31
profoX`Ademan: Imagine all the new to linux people that are clueless now. They'll think linux/ubuntu is bad, because it will crash their X if they upgraded in the last hour (problem already reported on launchpad now)12:31
Seven_Six_TwoHow do I set a script to automatically execute when kde is started, when the script requires a sudo? it's for a linksys wifi card on my mom's laptop and I need to make it easy12:31
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ZonoidAdeman: I think the checksum is fine, because it boots on another computer.12:32
TubaSoldierIt is already reported https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:32
AdemanZonoid: probably12:32
lamegoprofoX`, could you redirect your complains to the proper mailing list ?12:32
profoX`Seven_Six_Two: put kdesu in front of the script12:32
AdemanprofoX`: geeze, how did they release it? i can't believe that12:32
TubaSoldierAdeman: it is already reported with instructions on how to downgrade12:32
profoX`lamego: i'm just discussing it, and if you don't like that, just /ignore12:33
Seven_Six_TwoprofoX`: will she have to run that from console every time she boots?12:33
DarkMageZprofoX`, yo, u mensioned X dying from the latest update, how do i downgrade a package from the terminal?12:33
ZonoidAlso, does anyone know a way of loading Ubuntu on an iMac G5? It sounds like many people have had trouble with this.12:33
AdemanTubaSoldier: Yeah but the packages in the repositories ALWAYS seem to be a few versions behind, and here we finally catch up with development a little, and BOOM12:33
bandaiddoes grub come with ubuntu?12:33
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Ademanbandaid: of course12:33
lassegsbandaid ;)12:33
tritiumZonoid: it's still problematic.  Wait for edgy before trying it.12:33
bandaidso I can just do grub in terminal?12:33
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lamegoprofoX`, no really, this is a support related channel, and you are not supporting neither asking for support, so you are disturbing the channel, the same way the maintainter disturbed you with the upgrade12:33
FantasticFooi can't seem to get compiz working for the life of me... anyone know a good tutorial for fglrx users?12:33
Ademan"do grub" ? install grub?12:33
lupine_85ademan/profox`: is that in edgy or dapper?12:33
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FantasticFooi've tried all the tuts12:34
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ZonoidTritium: I heard you were supposed to disable the sound. Do you know how I could do that?12:34
profoX`lupine_85: dapper12:34
egerwow there is a lot of people here12:34
lupine_85eee gad12:34
tritiumZonoid: nope12:34
Ademanlupine_85: I haven't a clue, I didnt realize there even was an X upgrade :-p12:34
bandaidcan i type grub in the terminal install it that way while using the love CD?12:34
lupine_85yeah, me neither :F12:34
bandaidLive***12:34
profoX`DarkMageZ: I think you could do: cd /var/cache/apt/archives; sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core-OLDER_VERSION.deb12:34
profoX`something like that12:34
lupine_85still a bit unnerving, mind12:34
DarkMageZprofoX`, i don't have an older version in the archives :(12:34
egerim playing with ubuntu for the first time and i was just curious what the alternative iso is for?12:34
tritiumeger: older text mode install12:35
Ademaneger: its the "ugly" version of the installer, use the "desktop" one12:35
Seven_Six_TwoI just want the script to run, but I don't want her to have to type in the password every time, or go to console12:35
egertritium, thanks!12:35
tritiumeger: it's still useful in certain situations12:35
looktj!java12:35
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:35
Ademaneger: the "Desktop" one will let you try ubuntu out from the cd12:35
egertritium, i could see that12:35
marguimwe: but you told me that I must delete the entry for my card in /etc/network/interfaces... right? so, how can I set up my network?12:35
lamegoeger, it just the same installatiion but using a text mode installer12:35
egerthough i am really impressed with the graphical installer12:35
FurryNemesiseger, non grahics install, sometimes works better, and also allows more customisation12:35
mirkashlupine, i did reinstall and same problem12:35
egerfirst time ive seen this nice of installer for linux distro12:35
profoX`lamego: it's support if I warn people not to upgrade xserver-xorg-core from dapper-updates yet. It's sound advice.12:35
lamegoeger, on some older systems the graphical installer can't be run12:35
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lassegsDarkMageZ: cant you just wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and type dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb ?12:36
mwemargui: no12:36
DarkMageZlassegs, ty :)12:36
egerfirst time ive had my question answered in less than 30 seconds by 4 people in IRC too!!!12:36
mwemargui: that is if you want to use network manager12:36
tichi downloaded a rar that is password protected --does anyone know how i could open it without a password?12:36
mirkashlupine, can I somehow debug why isnt created device12:36
marguimwe: I see12:36
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tritiumeger: there are a few extra features only available on the alternate install image.  They're described on the download page12:36
AdemanI think the desktop install should let you pick exactly which packages are installed as part of the base system or something, maybe allow an "install profile" that defines exactly what to be installed (and is modifyable) so that installation to large networks is easier12:36
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lupine_85my first GUI installer was Corel Linux12:36
lupine_85absolute nightmare12:37
egerheh12:37
Seven_Six_Twoif I sudo chown root.root the script and stick it somewhere it shouldn't require sudo, but where to put it?12:37
marguimwe: ok, thanks a lot...12:37
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egerim used to the redhat installer12:37
lupine_85IMO, the systems haven't improved much since12:37
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egerwhich isnt all that bad...but i dont care for it too much12:37
lupine_85mirkash: I really don't know what to suggest then :(12:37
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lassegsDarkMageZ: did it do the trick?12:37
lupine_85maybe try posting on the forums?12:37
lupine_85I don't know a great deal about alsa12:37
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mirkashlupine, ok thanks, if I find solution i'll let you know :)12:38
lupine_85AFAICT, it's using the OSS system instead, and it really shouldn't be... but I don't know how to change that12:38
lupine_85and I could be completely wrong ;)12:38
lupine_85good luck12:38
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bobovskiHi all. I had a problem earlier that now seems to be system wide. Before, I'd double click on a .tex file and get the "run in terminal" display" etc window. now it happens with all my playlist files as well. have my folder permissions gotten screwed up somehow?12:38
maswanAdeman: Well, that is possible, look at preseeding or some other automation of installations, either by network support or custom cds12:38
Seven_Six_Twotich: I've never found a rar password cracker for linux, but often the password is part of the file name12:38
lupine_85john or brutus might do it?12:39
bobovskiactually, all my home folders seem to be set at 75512:39
lupine_85(off the top of my head)12:39
bobovskihow can I set them all back to the defaults?12:39
BHSPitMonkeyhey12:39
bobovski(and the real question is "are the file permissions causing my problem")12:39
BHSPitMonkeyCan I move my entire ubuntu filesystem to another (larger) partition/drive? or is fstab going to end up freaking out on me?12:39
david_My apt is broken.  It can find references to some packages (rar and notlame come to mind), but it cannot download those packages.  I am 100% sure it is not an issue with sources.lst, because I just copied the default contents in an attempt to fix it.  I tried reinstalling both the kernel image and apt itself and neither worked.  I added the quinn compiz repository at the end, and I uncommented every ubuntu repository..  Does anyone know the12:40
david_issue?12:40
marguiBabylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...12:40
BHSPitMonkeydavid_, apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic?12:40
david_apt-get12:40
lupine_85daft question first: have you run apt-get update since your change to sources.list ?12:40
mweBHSPitMonkey: if you do it right and update fstab it should work12:40
BHSPitMonkeynot sure] 12:40
lamegodavid_, you should keep *ONLY* the Ubuntu repositories12:40
david_lupine, yup12:40
lassegswell im off. see you in the morning guys12:41
BHSPitMonkeymwe, how would I need to update fstab?12:41
lamegothen check if apt-get update runs successfully12:41
m4rkis there any way to make ubuntu speak to me12:41
m4rkin a sassy voice12:41
david_lupine, it runs fine12:41
jvailol...smh12:41
mweBHSPitMonkey: well is your ubuntu on one partition?12:41
lamegom4rk, you are so funny (not)12:41
david_lamego, how could I get compiz/aiglx then?12:42
marguiBabylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...12:42
lupine_85run apt-cache gencaches and retry?12:42
BHSPitMonkeymwe, yeah, my ubuntu installation is on a partition, and I'm replacing that drive with a larger one.,12:42
lamegodavid_, first you should make sure your repositories, then if you use compiz/aigglz you should know that they are beta an can break your system12:42
lamegoi mean, your default repositories are ok12:42
mweBHSPitMonkey: basically just change fstab to reflect the new device name12:42
looktj!install12:42
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:42
mweBHSPitMonkey: and you don't wanna copy /proc /dev and /sys over12:43
BHSPitMonkeymwe, I'm not going to know what to put :/12:43
lamegomargui, install babytrans12:43
david_lupine_85, gencaches isn't a valid option on mine?12:43
marguilamego: is babytrans a free software?12:43
BHSPitMonkeymwe, if it's going to cause issues, I could always clean install on the new drive I guess.12:43
lupine_85sudo apt-cache gencaches12:43
lupine_85works over here12:43
david_lamego, it worked fine for a while.  When I was trying to compile the proset wireless drivers with a patch was when it broke, i think12:43
mweBHSPitMonkey: first make sure you copy everthing correctly, preserving permissions12:43
m4rkhas it got a text to speech synthesiser?12:44
lamegodavid_, try the apt-get update12:44
mweBHSPitMonkey: then take note of the device name of the new drive and change fstab to reflect it12:44
lupine_85($mwe-comment += "use cp -a")12:44
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david_I just ran gencaches and then update, then upgrade, then I tried to install "rar" again.  It did not work.  The error message was:12:45
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david_Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:45
david_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:45
david_is only available from another source12:45
david_E: Package rar has no installation candidate12:45
BHSPitMonkeymwe, would there be any way to make it just detect/generate a new fstab?12:45
mwedavid_: did you enable universe and multiverse?12:45
Ademananyone know what .bashrc is?12:45
lupine_85the ubuntu-provided rar is unrar-free, isn't it?12:46
Ademanis it a login script? or what?12:46
mweBHSPitMonkey: no.12:46
lupine_85script that is run on login12:46
BHSPitMonkeyk12:46
david_mwe, yes12:46
mweBHSPitMonkey: don't you know the device name for the new drive?12:46
Ademanlupine_85: and its per user correct?12:46
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BHSPitMonkeywell, thanks, I'll give it a try.12:46
lupine_85~/.bashrc is per-user, yes :)12:46
BHSPitMonkeymwe, I think I might be able to handle it.12:46
kupesoftMy AMD64 X.ORG update caused my ubuntu to not load x, saying "No Screens Found"12:46
lupine_85rar is not part of any ubuntu repositories12:47
kupesoftNow ubuntu is broken...12:47
kupesofthow to fix?12:47
mwe!info rar12:47
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)12:47
BHSPitMonkeyshutting down now. thanks.12:47
lupine_85at least, it doesn't show up on mine12:47
lupine_85strange. it's not here12:47
david_lupine_85, did you get the same error as I did?12:47
mwedavid_: it's in multiverse. you didn't enable multiverse correctly or didn't update12:47
kupesoftI've got a critical ubuntu problem.  I apt-get upgrade'd X.ORG just now on AMD64 and now ubuntu won't load X.ORG or any graphical interface saying "No Screens Found"12:47
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marguilamego: and where could I find the dictionaries for BabyTrans?12:48
david_mwe, I uncommented multiverse in sources.list and I ran apt-get update.  I am sure of this.12:48
kitchekupesoft: your probably missing something in your xorg.conf12:48
lamegomargui, good question, i dont use it, just saw some tip about it :|12:48
dravasWhat are the best plugins for Mozilla Firefox?12:48
mwekupesoft: I think you need to downgrade for now12:48
kupesoftkitche: How can I fix this?12:48
dravasfor videa12:48
dravaso12:48
lupine_85no , it was discussed just a second ago12:48
dravasand sound12:48
kupesoftmwe: How can I downgrade?12:48
lupine_85the update is a borker12:48
mwekupesoft: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:48
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david_lupine_85, if my apt-get is shot, what do you think I should do?12:49
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kupesoftmwe: thanks, I'll try (=12:49
DarkMageZlassegs, it's rebooting now12:49
david_I have been just manually downloading and installing .debs, and I archive them to remember what I installed12:49
dravasWhat are the best Mozilla Media Plugins12:49
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david_This just seems like a bad way to do things12:49
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lupine_85aptitude -f will try to fix stuff for you12:51
kuun-lannhello12:51
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kuun-lanni just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?12:51
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dodgyvilleHello12:52
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dodgyvilleHow do I stop x so I can install NVIDIA drivers?12:52
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david_lupine_85, that did not work12:53
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lupine_85kuun-lan: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 (scroll to the bottom)12:53
SocratesYeah12:53
lupine_85hmm. surely an easier fix for the xorg thing would be "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1"12:53
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SocratesSo, what12:53
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GStubbs43Hey, I'm trying to install audacious and when I do ./configure, it says configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango What packages do I need to install?12:53
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Wolvezhi. someone knows how I can do virtualhost with virtualhost with user and groups12:53
kuun-lanni just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?12:53
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kuun-lannp12:53
lupine_85^ :kuun-lan: ^12:53
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floppyearshi12:54
lamegoGStubbs43, apt-cache search pango dev12:54
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lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715812:54
dodgyvilleGStubbs43: I find apt-cache search pango might help12:54
lupine_85can anyone put it into the topic?12:54
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floppyearsdoes anybody here do inline skating ? I have some questions about that12:54
SocratesHey, there12:54
lupine_85david_: not sure then. maybe try the forum?12:54
SocratesWell, pardon me sir12:54
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snoopdoes anybody know how to print photos with ubuntu?12:54
lupine_85or uninstall all the packages you've installed and see if that helps ;)12:54
DarkMageZlassegs, yup, it's up and running now, thanks12:54
GStubbs43Thanks12:55
lupine_85snoop: the gimp works well for photo printing12:55
david_lupine_85, sure, thanks for your help12:55
snoopthe sizes are always off, 4x6 is taking up less than 25% of the 4x6 photo paper12:55
lupine_85(as long as you've got a decent printer driver)12:55
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kuun-lannthx lupine i watch this link12:55
SocratesHey gimps12:55
snooplupine_85: i am using gimp, but still no luck12:55
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lupine_85hmm. are you specifying the image size using pixels or inches/cm ?12:55
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snooplupine_85:inches\12:56
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lupine_85another alternative would be inkscape (which explicitly sets the paper size)12:56
kupesoftmwe: Worked!12:56
no0tickopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?12:56
kupesoftmwe: Thank you sooooo much12:56
sethksnoop, I've noticed that, unless I crop in Gimp, I get a tiny size12:56
mwekupesoft: yw12:56
sethksnoop, but if I crop, which logically ought to make things smaller, I get the expected size12:56
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kuun-lannits working lupine :D12:56
sethksnoop, I'm using jpeg images from a digital camera, typically12:56
kuun-lannthank you very much for your hjekp :)12:56
lupine_85np :)12:57
snoopsethk: me too but printing them was way easier on windows12:57
Quicksilvaim trying to install ntfsprogs and it gives me this error.... error: dependency is not satisfiable: libc612:57
Quicksilvaanyone know what that is :S12:57
sethksnoop, I just sftp the files over to a windows box and print them from there12:57
lupine_85cheater ;)12:58
sethksnoop, there is a driver for my photo printer for linux, but I've not taken the time, yet, to make it work.12:58
kupesoftmwe: How can I mark the package to not be upgraded...?12:58
sethksnoop, and even if I do, I'll get only a subset of the features I need.12:58
mweQuicksilva: how did you try to install it?12:58
QuicksilvaI just want to use my storage drive which is in ntfs format12:58
looktjwhat is the url to install commands?12:58
snoopseth: i am going to try cropping and see what happens12:58
sethksnoop, ok, let me know.12:58
mwekupesoft: if you use synaptic, hold back or something. I'm not too familiar with it12:58
unwakataHow do I speed up the Synaptic Package Manager? It keeps failing the downloads...12:59
Quicksilvamwe:  i downloaded ntfsprogs_1.13.1-3_i38612:59
kupesoftI use apt-get of course12:59
Quicksilva.deb12:59
kupesoftmew: I use apt-get12:59
mweQuicksilva: don't do that12:59
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kupesoft*mwe: I use apt-get12:59
mweQuicksilva: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs instead12:59
tichhow would i open a rar that is password protected if i don't have the password?12:59
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lupine_85you'd bruteforce it12:59
sethkunwakata, you can't exactly "speed it up".  what you need to look at is why you are experiencing a problem that (at least most) other people aren't seeing.12:59
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looktjkupesoft: use aptitude12:59
mwekupesoft: I don't think apt-get knows how to hold back a package12:59
lupine_85http://www.digg.com/security/RAR_Password_Cracker_FREE under wine?01:00
lupine_85mwe: it doesn't01:00
mwekupesoft: I think aptitude does though01:00
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kupesoftmwe: Oh well,01:00
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looktj!aptitude > kupesoft01:00
looktj!mplayer01:00
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer01:00
lupine_85but you can tell it to install specific versions with the apt-get install <package>=<version> format01:00
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.01:00
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Quicksilva:O01:00
tichlupine_85, how do i "bruteforce it"?01:00
Quicksilvacan you do that for any apps mwe?01:01
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greyscale'sup01:01
Quicksilvaim using linux for the first time today01:01
unwakataWell the downloads keep timing out and then I have to restart the Synaptic Package Manager. Why doesn't it retry automatically and download with multiple connections...?01:01
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greyscaleI've just had XSERVER fail.01:01
greyscaleanyone wanna help01:01
greyscale?01:01
ardchoilleWhoa! rute is in the repos :)01:01
ardchoilleDidn't know that01:01
Thaurardchoille, rute ?01:01
mweQuicksilva: well most things you can apt-get01:01
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ardchoilleThaur: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz01:01
mweQuicksilva: installing random .debs is a bad idea01:02
SocratesQuicksilva01:02
Quicksilvaye01:02
Thaurardchoille, chhers01:02
greyscalehelloooooo... Critical XSERVER failiure >>01:02
tjsis it possible to get a cut down image that will bootstrap the dapper install from a usb keyring?01:02
greyscaletjs - someone did that.01:02
greyscaleSee the forums01:02
KolaNorsuHello, can someone help me? ='( I just updatet the newest X.org-server-core with Update-Manager, and when i reset my X for the newest X.org-server-core, my X won't start, I also installed the newest nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common too, and in xorg.conf there's Section "nvidia", but it doesn't work, yhyhyh ='( help me ='(01:02
tjsgreyscale, ty, I have a tiny embedded device that I want to get dapper onto and it has no CD01:02
greyscalewhat is it01:03
greyscale?01:03
mwetjs: I did that. used the netinstall image01:03
greyscaleAnd if so, try something smaller >>01:03
tjsah01:03
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burnhamdis there a better interface for grub or should i use lilo etc... to get a bootcamp like boot screen01:03
mwetjs: oh01:03
mwetjs: I don01:03
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Flanneltjs: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation01:03
tjsIm not sure of the brand, its a small SBC, p2 equiv01:03
lupine_85 tjs - debootstrap for you too :)01:03
tjs:)01:03
lupine_85is it going on a CF card/01:03
mwetjs: the dapper kernel is not suitable for embedded devices I think01:03
lupine_85s///?01:04
greyscaleanyone at all going to help?01:04
tjsit has a CF slot01:04
tjsand also a notebook drive in it01:04
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eternalswdgnome-panel Time and Date gui isn't remembering the settings.  what do I do to change the time zone and the time?01:04
GStubbs43Okay, I installed everything that apt-cache search pango said to, but it still says the same thing, configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango01:04
lupine_85grayscale https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:04
mwetjs: that kernel has EVERY possible option turned on. you don't want that in a tiny system01:04
lupine_85you don't want to use standard ubuntu on a CF card01:04
tjsmwe: ah01:04
lupine_85it'll break it rather nastily01:04
sethktjs, for embedded you really want a different type of root file system, etc.01:05
lupine_85(frequent writes)01:05
Quicksilvaso i installed that but it still tells me i need to mount the drive01:05
mwetjs: dapper is not the best choice for embedded linux01:05
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lupine_85If it's a hard drive, then ubuntu will work fine - a p2 equivalent isn't exactly embedded, TBH ;)01:05
Quicksilva"unable to mount selected volume"01:05
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lupine_85however, you might want to look at AspisOS as an alternative01:05
tjsIm not developing a platform for anything serious, I have picked up this machine and I want to turn it into a fileserver for home01:05
lupine_85it's incredible01:06
greyscalelupine_85, lol thanks ^^01:06
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mwetjs: specs?01:06
lupine_85can you put the hard drive in your PC temporarily?01:06
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lupine_85(if not, it'll be a pain to get ubuntu on - but possible)01:07
sethkusually an embedded device using a CF card uses IDE emulation, so it isn't difficult to load linux on it.01:07
tjsmwe, arm processor, x86 emulation, p2 equiv, 256 ram, 40gig notebook drive01:07
looktjwhat is the url to install commands?01:07
lupine_85yes, but when you write repeatedly to a CF card, it b0rks it01:08
mwetjs: forget about ubuntu and look for distro for embedded devices01:08
sethktjs, if it has a 40 gig drive, what is a CF card used for?01:08
sethklupine_85, that's true, but it has to be a very large number of writes01:08
lupine_85and you don't want to be replacing it every month or so01:08
lupine_85for instance, /var/log ?01:08
sethklupine_85, that' true, I disable logging on my CF card devices01:08
mwetjs: I don't think dapper will even work on that01:08
lupine_85it should do, if the x86 emulation is up to scratch01:09
poningruanyone know how to do bridging between wifi and ethernet01:09
lupine_85I got it working on a 32MB Pentium-120 ;)01:09
tjsno idea, I don't know the original purpose, I've picked this thing up for $300 second hand, I intend on running it in my cupboard as a file server and also I would like to do a bit of home automation in python or something01:09
lupine_85poningru: man brctl01:09
tjsnot 100% sure, I just want to see what I can get it to do :)01:09
mwelupine_85: I thought the installer wanted at least 192MB of RAM though01:10
lupine_85you'll need to install bridge-utils as well01:10
lupine_85mwe: you do if you want to use the installer01:10
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snoopi keep getting error 250 after i install packages with synaptec01:11
lupine_85(this is where I got my debootstrap experience from ;) )01:11
Samus_Aranwhere bouts can I find a terminal in Gnome ?  (I'm helping someone on the phone)01:11
greyscalewell my problems fixed.01:11
mwelupine_85: and at least a P3. but with debootstrap I guess you could if you're persistant :)01:11
greyscalebyeeee01:11
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cafuegomwe: As long as you don't insist on running the livecd first or installing Gnome, it has fairly modest ram requirements.01:11
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tjsahh01:11
no0tickopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?01:11
jaakkostjs: maybe something like damn small linux?01:11
mwecafuego: yeah01:11
ardchoilleSamus_Aran: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal01:11
tjsit seems to have an old copy of potato running on it01:12
lupine_85samus: start(or whatever it is)->Run command (or whatever it is)->xterm01:12
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ardchoilleSamus_Aran: ot, ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal01:12
tjsI wonder if I can debian potato -> ubuntu dapper ;)01:12
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mwecafuego: wouldn't you get problems with anything less than P3 though?01:12
lupine_85seriously check out AspisOS. I use it on my SBC and it is great01:12
Flannelmwe: no01:12
cafuegomwe: Nope, not at all.01:12
ardchoillelupine_85: There is no "Run" menu item in gnome 2.14.. unless youi made one01:12
lupine_85mwe: no - you can install on a 386 if you want01:12
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lupine_85ardchoille: really?!01:13
mweoh ;)01:13
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cafuegomwe: When you get down to the 486 range you may experience extreme slowness, though ;-)01:13
Samus_Aranardchoille: thank you01:13
lupine_85<shudder>01:13
lupine_85(I'm on KDE, so working from memory)01:13
cafuegomwe: It's not even particularly fast on 233MHz G3 Macs.01:13
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ardchoillelupine_85: Really, they took it out01:13
harleypigI seem to have fubar'd my kismet install somehow ... shouldn't I be able to do dpkg-reconfigure kismet and have it install the config files again?01:13
ardchoilleSamus_Aran: Thank you :)01:13
lupine_85oh dear01:13
mwecafuego: I see ...01:13
bthorntonHey, I know this isn't directly Ubuntu related so my apologies, but... I'm being forced to buy a new MB/CPU and am looking at a Pentium D (Dual Core).  In Linux, will this dual-core process appear as two distinct CPUs -- thus requiring me to run an SMP kernel?01:13
NemesisUKQuicksilva, you need to install libc601:14
ardchoillelupine_85: But, you can make a new menu item with alacarte and give it the command:  gnome-panel-control --run-dialog01:14
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sMoKiNsTiEnhello01:14
lupine_85it's the principle of the thing...01:14
lupine_85next you'll be telling me they don't have a root terminal in the menu! (j/k, I know that's not there any more!)01:14
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ardchoillelupine_85: It's there, you just have to open alacarte and un-hide it01:15
gholenCan i register on #ubuntu?01:15
lupine_85out of sight, out of mind?01:15
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sMoKiNsTiEnumm how can i get the ati driver working on ubuntu ..gives me an error when i try to install it ..can anyone help me ..this is the first time ive tried an linux based os01:15
ardchoillelupine_85: Well, using sudo is much better01:15
lupine_85bthornton: I *think* it presents itself as a single CPU, but not sure01:16
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ardchoillegholen: "register"? You can register a nickname on freenode01:16
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harleypigbthornton: I've got an amd x2, it shows up in most monitoring apps (including top) as two cpus01:16
Samus_Aranhow can one check a wireless connection on Ubuntu ?01:16
lupine_85however, you don't need a special version of windows to "take advantage" of duo (they charge ~100 extra for smp, IIRC)01:16
gholenardchoille: Okay, already done that, just wondering thogh...01:16
gholenthanks01:16
Dev05Hey guys, I just did a dist-upgrade and I got a new version of the xorg-core pack. Now it says thaat it couldn't find any device. nVidis GeForce 3 using propietary driver and XGL. what's going on?01:16
ardchoille:)01:16
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:16
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gholenanyone else had the problem with a totale destryd X when having i upgrade (the latest one)01:17
Dev05lupine_85, that was impressive ;)01:17
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lupine_85xorg01:18
lupine_85hmm01:18
weirdoi upgraded this package and now my os wont boot01:18
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sMoKiNsTiEncan anyone help me01:18
lupine_85(never done this before ;) )01:18
weirdosomething to do with xorg01:18
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:18
weirdoi get the no screen error01:18
lupine_85aha!01:18
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Dev05Yeah, it saya in there.01:18
lupine_85won't work for them all, but helps a bit01:18
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Dev05says*01:18
HellDragonhi01:19
lupine_85someone else say it :)01:19
HellDragonim back01:19
dredhammerso how bad is it i just installed this update01:19
HellDragonand its still not working01:19
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looktjwhat is the site to install stuff?01:19
looktjsuch as mplayer, multiplayer, java, etc.?01:19
dredhammerhaven't restarted yet tho01:19
dredhammeri was just goinbg top01:19
weirdoare you having the same problem as me?01:19
HellDragon:(01:19
dredhammer*to01:19
ardchoille!restricted > looktj01:19
sMoKiNsTiEncan anyone help me01:19
Dev05thanks, I'll try what the link says out.01:19
harleypigso anyone can tell me how to reconfigure a kismet installation?01:19
natural20does JVM come with ubuntu?01:19
Marco2391dredhammer, you only have to restart for kernel updates01:19
lupine_85apt-get remove --purge kismet01:19
lupine_85apt-get install kismet01:19
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lakinHey all, at my office today I was trying to configure a Matrox G200 and a Intel i810 card to do dual monitors.  We could get the I810 working fine, but all our attempts at configuring the G200 resulted in a corrupted screen ... :(01:20
lupine_85--purge kills all your config files01:20
harleypigahh ... that's what I was missing01:20
Marco2391Kerney updates or kernel panic are the only reasons01:20
harleypiglupine_85: thanks01:20
lupine_85install puts them back01:20
lupine_85np01:20
lakinIs there any known issues for a Matrox G200?01:20
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linuxuserwhy does the xserver-xorg-core update hose my x server?????01:20
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:20
lupine_85w00t!01:20
gbaumanWow, so it's a big X thing then01:20
gbaumanwhew01:20
sMoKiNsTiEnhello anyone01:20
looktjardchoille: i mean site that tells me how to install stuff it wiki something01:20
KolaNorsulinuxuser: i just updatet it, and i blew my X01:21
ardchoille!restricted01:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:21
KolaNorsui = it01:21
dredhammerautomatix works01:21
ardchoillelooktj: first link in that post01:21
natural20does JVM come with Ubuntu?01:21
dredhammeror easy buntu01:21
harleypiglupine_85: that did it, thanks.01:21
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dredhammerif its restricted stuff you want to do in a snap01:21
linuxuserthe xserver-xorg-core update is bullshit, id expect this kind of craph from mshaft01:21
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:21
ardchoilledredhammer: Please don't recommend automatix. It's not supported or recommended here01:21
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Tweakhow can I create a shortcut of a program?01:21
dredhammerreally when did that happen?01:21
KolaNorsulinuxuser: do u know how i can fix it?01:21
linuxuserno i dont01:21
HellDragonim pised off01:21
KolaNorsu:(01:22
HellDragonpissed01:22
sMoKiNsTiEncan some  1 help me plaese01:22
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blu2Hi All, just installed mplayer and mplayerplugin via apt-get.mplayer works but mplayerplugins doesnt.Is there a separate config for the plugin for firefox1.5?01:22
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dredhammerwell what about easy buntu?01:22
KolaNorsume too with X!01:22
linuxuserwhat a bunch of bullshit01:22
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, only if you ask a question01:22
lupine_85look on the bright side - this is the first time something like this has happened to my knowledge in ubuntu01:22
dowdleQuick question... I just installed ubuntulite and X wasn't configured at all.  I'm upgrading the packages right now... but... what is the command line for configuration of X?01:22
weirdohow would i downgrade the xserver-xorg-core if i have no net?01:22
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:22
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ardchoilledredhammer: It's much better to learn how to install those things yourself, then, if anything breaks, you won't be lost01:22
sMoKiNsTiEni have been ..im trying to installl th4e ati driver on ubuntu and when i run the installer i get an error01:22
linuxuserany developers in here, get that fucking crap of the updater01:22
lupine_85you would use the CD?01:22
Dev05dowdle, dexconf01:22
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BHSPitLappywould anyone recommend choosing ext3 over reiserfs, for a biiig partition for holding my documents01:23
dredhammercompile mplayer yourself01:23
lupine_85reiserfs every time01:23
dowdleDevOS: Thanks, I'll give it a try.01:23
sethklinuxuser, for important system,s don't install a new o/s version until it has been out for three months01:23
BHSPitLappyk01:23
ardchoillelupine_85: We saw that link the first time you posted it01:23
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dredhammeras for plugins easybuntu01:23
lupine_85it's on auto right now01:23
Dev05dowdle, np. It will just re-write xorg.conf01:23
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:23
lupine_85I Can turn it off if it's seriously annoying01:23
lupine_85yep, it's annoying01:23
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mcphailBHSPitLappy: i'd be happy to use ext3 for that01:23
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ardchoillelupine_85: It's seriously annoying01:23
lupine_85it's gone :)01:23
sMoKiNsTiEnim trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please01:24
kaottop01:24
ardchoillelupine_85: I don't think auto stuff like that is allowed in here anyway01:24
kaoterm.  my xterm is --> thataway, duh.  :\01:24
lupine_85k, will remember01:24
lupine_85I only did it because there's nobody around to set the topic01:24
sMoKiNsTiEnim trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please01:24
blu2dredhammer, can I compile it without uninstalling with apt-get first?01:24
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, have you read the howto for ati yet?01:24
ardchoillelupine_85: /join #ubuntu-ops and talk to them :)01:25
weirdohow do i install the package from the cd?01:25
sMoKiNsTiEnits my first time using a linux base os01:25
Marco2391blu2, assumming you're using make, just make sure you remove any similar packages with apt before you do "make install"01:25
sMoKiNsTiEni tried01:25
sMoKiNsTiEnand failed01:25
dredhammerwell you could but thats not clean01:25
BHSPitLappyweirdo, in synaptic, in the repository settings, add the cdrom01:25
sMoKiNsTiEni just need a little bit of help01:25
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weirdoim in terminal01:25
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, you found the howto document?  I'm asking because it explains things in detail, more detail than we could do here.01:25
weirdohaving the xorg-core problem01:25
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sethksMoKiNsTiEn, if you have a specific question, ask it01:25
sMoKiNsTiEncan you link it to me01:26
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dredhammerthe howto for mplayer on dapper is pretty clear01:26
dredhammercheck the forums01:26
mRCUTEOhello anyone knows how can i save iptables config in ubuntu>?01:26
dredhammerthe howto section01:26
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lupine_85iptables-save >iptables.conf01:26
dowdleok, how do I generate an X.org config from scratch?  dexconf didn't help.01:26
sethksomeone?  that howto URL for binary drivers?01:26
HellDragonHi, i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:26
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sethkdowdle, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:26
sMoKiNsTiEnwhere do i found this how to document01:26
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mRCUTEOthanks lupine_8501:26
dowdlesethk: Thanks, I'll give it a try.01:26
blu2thanks, I have and it is pretty clear,that is why I dont understand whyit isnt working....all the links seem to be in place01:26
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, I'm checking.  if you do a search for binarydriver and ubuntu, you'll find it.01:27
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blu2I will uninstall and try to compile myself....01:27
blu2thanks.....01:27
gbaumanIs this X-not-starting-after-update problem something I can fix with a config change, or do I need to wait for a new package?01:27
sethksMoKiNsTiEn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:27
sMoKiNsTiEnthank you dude01:27
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mRCUTEOlupine_85: how can i restart the iptables - it doesnt show in init.d?01:28
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renderanybody get segmentation fault in ubuntu ppc running gtkpod?01:28
HellDragon:(01:28
linuxusergbauman, someone was smoking too much dope up at ubuntu headquarters01:28
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renderI tried to compile it from source but I think the problem is in a shared library...01:28
lupine_85iptables is in the kernel - it runs all the time, IIRC01:28
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lupine_85if it has no rules, then it doesn't do anything01:28
lupine_85(iptables is just a kernel interface)01:29
sethklupine_85, well, yes and no.  if there are no instructions registered, it does nothing.  so, technically, it is running, but actually ...01:29
K^Holtza new version of azureus is out.. will that show up on my autoupdates?01:29
mRCUTEOlupine_85 : what if i reboot ... do the iptables rules got reset too?01:29
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looktjardchoille: i dont see anything to install java and lojack01:29
lupine_85yes. So run iptables-restore < iptables.conf01:29
natural20is there someplace better to get ubuntu breezy help?01:29
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lupine_85(once you've generated iptables.conf, of course)01:29
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lupine_85use /etc/iptables.conf01:29
sethknatural20, no, you can get help here01:29
mRCUTEOoh thanks lupine_8501:30
sethknatural20, I still have all my boxes except one on breezy01:30
HellDragon:(01:30
dowdlesethk: Thanks, that worked for me.  I installed UbuntuLite in a VMware Server virtual machine with 64MB of RAM and a 2GB disk... to simulate some low end hardware I'd like to try it on later.01:30
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lupine_85and add the commands to /etc/init.d/networking01:30
sethkdowdle, sounds interesting01:30
imachinehello01:30
lupine_85(iptables-save, iptables-restore)01:30
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HellDragon i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:31
lupine_85there are probably GUI tools to do all this automatically - no idea what, though ;)01:31
imachinecould anyone point me to a weblink or something alike where i can learn the differences between 6.06 and 6.06.1 ?01:31
imachineof Ubuntu Dapper ?01:31
natural20i try installing ANYTHING (jvm, firefox 1.5, vassal) using ubuntu walkthroughs i find on the net, but something always goes wrong.  I need someone to walk through with me, and point me in the right direction when i encounter an error.   Any takers?01:31
sethknatural20, you mean installing from ubuntu packages?01:31
HellDragonanother thime:  i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(01:31
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natural20sethk: i can't answer that question because i don't know what ubuntu packages are.01:32
weirdodoes anyone know what folder am i supposed to cd to to find xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb?01:32
sethknatural20, how are you trying to install?01:32
mRCUTEOIs this the latest version of ubuntu: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l that has no problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel?01:32
weirdoon the disc01:32
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sethkmRCUTEO, none of the versions have any problems with that, afaik01:32
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itsmorefun/bin/sh: line 1: 29391 Erreur de segmentation  /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt01:33
itsmorefunwhat can i do?01:33
lupine_85weirdo: once you've run "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb", it'll be right in front of you01:33
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mRCUTEOsethk: what versions of ubuntu got problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel? do you know any?01:33
weirdoi dont have net01:34
weirdoon the laptop01:34
lupine_85ah01:34
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lupine_85on the CD then?01:34
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weirdoya01:34
lupine_851 second01:34
weirdoi mounted the cd01:34
mainermRCUTEO: firestarter is easiest gui-front-end for net-filter(part of kernel does firewalling),fast easy01:34
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sethkmRCUTEO, none that I know of01:34
weirdothanks man01:34
natural20sethk: for example, from Java's website I have downloaded JRE for linux.  I'm sure i have the right package for my computer, but following their install walkthrough I immediately get an error (such and such can't be located, i don't have it in front of me.)01:35
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lupine_85you could try running slocate /media/cdrom |grep xserver-xorg-core01:35
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mainermRCUTEO: http??www.fs-scurity.com/  its in repository also,but grab the user manual/guide01:35
weirdok01:35
mRCUTEOokay thanks sethk, thanks mainer01:35
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sethknatural20, java is a bad example because the package install isn't great.  For other things, though, ubuntu uses the debian package manager.  you can run an app, synaptic, and search for and install packages01:36
K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?01:36
sethknatural20, that takes care of things like dependencies, meaning it installs whatever you need that is missing01:36
Linuturkhow do I get my gdesklets to load at startup?01:36
sethknatural20, it's best to install that way and revert to other methods only if using packages has a problem.01:36
mRCUTEOsethk : sorry for my wrong statment: what im trying to say: is there any exploit againts Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - i heard kernel 2.6 got affected..01:37
lupine_85on my CD it's at pool/main/x/xorg-server01:37
HexidigitalLinuturk: add them to System > Preferences > Session > Startup01:37
HexidigitalLinuturk: s/them/it... make an entry for gdesklets01:37
KolaNorsuany one has just updatet his X.org-server-core? i made it and my X wont work now =(01:37
sethkmRCUTEO, whatever applies to the 2.6 kernel applies to ubuntu, but I have not heard of a problem with the kernel used in either breezy or dapper (dapper is 6.06)01:37
natural20sethk: ok, i'll try that01:37
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mainermRCUTEO:      url s.b.  http://www.fs-security.com/01:38
mRCUTEOoh..01:38
LinuturkHexidigital, just gdesklets01:38
mRCUTEOthanks01:38
Linuturk?01:38
lupine_85KolaNorsu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:38
HexidigitalLinuturk: yes01:38
LinuturkHexidigital, ok, thanks01:38
HexidigitalLinuturk: np01:38
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weirdoi found... /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-core.list and usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core01:39
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lupine_85nope, none of them01:39
KolaNorsulupine_85: do u know how to repair that01:39
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lupine_85 weirdo: how about /media/cdrom/pool/main/x/xorg-server$01:40
lupine_85KolaNorsu: instructions are at the bottom of the page01:40
KolaNorsulupine_85: ok thanx, i will send some cola to u :)01:40
lupine_85erm, s/xorg-server$/xorg-server/01:40
lupine_85yum :)01:40
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Linuturkok, this is the wierdest thing I've ever seen. My homepage is set to the university of Arizona . . . but my homepage is google . . .01:41
lupine_85probably get exploded as a suspicious parcel right now, though01:41
Linuturkusing firefox01:41
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Linuturkif I hit the home button01:41
Linuturkit takes me to the correct home page01:41
Linuturkbut, when it loads up01:41
weirdothere is no x dir01:41
Linuturkit goes to the universit of arizone . . .01:41
Linuturkarizona . . .01:41
cristophineHi all. I'm trying to print an image across multiple pages. I remember there was a command line tool that did this but I cant seem to find it. Does anyone know what it is?01:42
lupine_85your CD must be different then... mine is the alt install01:42
lupine_851 second01:42
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void^Linuturk: that's probably because the start link is firefox %A or similar and google autosearch ends up at the university of arizona (i'm not kidding)01:42
weirdooh.. mine is the desktop one01:42
weirdodoes that mean i have to download the alt?01:42
BreakDecksEver since upgrading to Dapper Drake, my external hard drives are mounting to the /mnt folder with names like 'sda1' or 'sdb1', and not to the /Media folder where they have a more recognizable name.  This is especially annoying because when I reboot, they have new mount points, and my indexing gets screwed up.  How do I fix this?01:42
Linuturkvoid^, it does say %u01:42
lupine_85your mountpoint is /media/cdrom, right?01:42
weirdocdrom001:42
weirdobut ya01:42
KolaNorsulupine_85: i tried01:43
lupine_85so /media/cdrom0/pool/main/x/xorg-server doesn't exist either?01:43
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jnwhat is the cmd to make a file executable?01:43
lupine_85chmod a+x filename01:43
weirdodir main returns "b d e f g i l m n p s"01:43
jnty01:43
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Warbo!grub01:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:43
KolaNorsuhow i can make a text file01:44
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mweBreakDecks: mine mounts to /media/usbdisk01:44
void^Linuturk: hrm, if i enter %u in the address bar i get the university of alberta :] 01:44
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HellDragonYAY X doesnt work anymore01:44
jnhow do i make that execuatble file accessable by name in any dir01:44
rotellarohi all01:44
weirdolol01:44
KolaNorsuhow i can make a text file01:44
KolaNorsu:(01:44
Linuturkvoid^, well, that fixed it01:44
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Linuturkthanks01:44
HellDragonapt-get doesnt work and X doesnt work and i get no help01:44
cristophinejn: put it in your /usr/bin directory01:44
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HellDragonim pissed off now01:44
cafuegojn: Normally you'd move it to /usr/local/bin01:45
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mweor /usr/local/bin for local stuff01:45
KolaNorsuim too because i dont know howto make a textfile01:45
BreakDecksmwe: I want it to mount based on the name of the drive, not the hardware address.  One drive is named "IXION", I want it to mount as "/media/IXION", instead of "/mnt/sdd1"01:45
weirdoya.. i have to write a letter for my mother and i cant access my laptop now =D01:45
HellDragonyou all so help me01:45
lupine_85helldragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:45
rotellaroplease someone can help me? I've updated xorg and suddendly X stopped to work01:45
ardchoilleWell, with all these folks having a problem after the latest xserver update.. I won't be updating it for a few days ;)01:45
lupine_85^ ^01:45
KolaNorsulupine_85: how i can make a text file? :(01:45
Dev05KolaNorsu, Just open your favorite text editor and start typing.01:45
rotellaroargh!01:45
jncool ty01:46
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lupine_85still working weirdo01:46
KolaNorsuDev05: ok thx :D01:46
mweBreakDecks: you need to fiddle with the hald rules. I'm not an expert and it takes alot of fiddling around01:46
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weirdohuh? still working?01:46
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ZambeziI need to make some more space free on a harddrive. Is there some "crapfiles" like logs somewhere I can delete? It very little packages installed.  820 MB is used.01:46
Dev05KolaNorsu, If you're in GNOME try gedit, in KDE, kate and in Xfce, nano.01:46
looktji found it! http://www.ubuntuguide.org01:46
mwe!ubuntuguide01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
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bigmarCuswhats usually the best MP3 player for ubuntu/linux besides xmms?01:47
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looktj!guide01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
Dev05lupine_85, Thank's a lot for the link. Now I'm back on Linux with X running :).01:47
Herbali upgraded xorg packages and now my X wont load01:47
WarbobigmarCus: There are loads. I like Amarok and Listen01:47
gbaumanI got X running but now it crashes to a blank screen right after the GNOME splash screen01:48
jamieHi guys.  Sorry for the idiotic question but I can't find an answer with w3m..  What's the command to reconfigure X?01:48
Warbo!best01:48
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.01:48
gbaumanjoy01:48
bigmarCusWarbo: thanks ill check them out01:48
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Dev05jamie, dexconf. It will re-write xorg.conf01:48
lupine_85Herbal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:48
WarbobigmarCus: Listen isn't in Ubuntu yet, it's on listengnome.free.fr01:48
jamieDev05: thanks01:48
Dev05jamie, np.01:48
mitchgbauman, this happened to me. Do ifconfig .. is loopback up?01:48
bigmarCusWarbo: thanks01:48
profoX`bigmarCus: I like to use Amarok personally (yea also in GNOME)01:48
jamieDev05: is it supposed to do anything?01:49
lupine_85on getting that package :)01:49
profoX`but that's just a matter of opinion01:49
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jamieI keep getting "No screens found"01:49
gbaumanmitch, yep01:49
Dev05jamie, follow lupine_85's link.01:49
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jamieman, which one is that?  It's hard with a text based browser01:49
Dev05jamie, here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:49
WarboprofoX`: Amarok doesn't like my non-MP3/Ogg files. Even if I drag them into the playilst manually, it says "These aren't in your collection" well done, you didn'y add them!01:50
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sMoKiNsTiEnhow do i get games working on ubuntu01:50
jamieDev05: problem is I have no clue how to pull up that link with irssi01:50
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Dev05jamie, I'll type it here for you. Just a sec.01:50
Warbo!synaptic > sMoKiNsTiEn01:50
lupine_85you need lynx installing01:50
sMoKiNsTiEn i mean windows games01:50
cabulosohow do i find out the "local-machine-name" ?01:50
gbaumanjamie, alt-f2 to another terminal, log in, type 'w3m <link>'01:50
Warbo!cedega > sMoKiNsTiEn01:50
erdrickok i just installed the latest radeon drivers but it says it's still useing mesa for opengl and rendering how do i fix that?01:50
gbaumancabuloso: cat /etc/hostname01:50
mwesMoKiNsTiEn: most of them don't work01:50
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profoX`Warbo: non-mp3/ogg ? like what? wma works fine too.. I don't think I know many other formats :) besides flac01:51
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mwesMoKiNsTiEn: if you're willing to spend a few days you might get a few to work in wine01:51
cabulosogbauman: thanks man ! :01:51
Georgeyay suspend is broken on my t43p :)01:51
gbaumancabuloso: No problem01:51
Dev05jamie, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core-1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb01:51
WarboprofoX`: xm, it, and s3m mainly01:51
weirdoi think i should add the cd to the repo list01:51
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weirdowhat's the line of code i should add?01:51
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HellDragon:(01:51
HellDragonX is dead01:51
sMoKiNsTiEnbut dosnt cedega cost money01:51
gbaumanWarbo: those are supported in both xine and gstreamer with the right plugin01:52
profoX`Warbo: oh, yea, Amarok could play those before :( but the gstreamer engine seized development, and the xine engine can't playi t yet01:52
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mweHellDragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 probably01:52
profoX`gbauman: gstreamer engine = dead01:52
rdzevolution-question: how can i add a cc-address, when writing a new mail?01:52
HellDragonmwe: what01:52
profoX`(at least in 1.4.x and higher)01:52
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gbaumanprofoX`: You are crazy01:52
HellDragonmwe: i cant01:52
HellDragonmwe: im not on X01:52
profoX`gbauman: in 1.4.x and higher it'll be gone01:52
Warbogbauman: I know, but I have to drag them into Amarok and it complains that my collection isn't set up properly. It's the only feature of Banshee that I like01:52
Dev05jamie, If that one doesn't work, just try this one: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb01:52
HellDragonmwe: and i dont know how to copy past with irssi and i  cant apt-get lynx beause apt-get is broken01:52
HellDragon:(01:52
mweHellDragon: you upgrade X and it dies?01:53
weirdohow do i add the cd to the repo list? what do i type into sources.list?01:53
profoX`jamie: Dev05: I think this works too: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:53
lupine_85 weirdo: is it a 6.06.1 CD?01:53
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KolaNorsulupine_85: What was the site, https://lauchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/571XX??01:53
Warboweirdo: There is a tool for it. Hang on01:53
Dev05profoX`, I don't know :)01:53
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715801:53
mweHellDragon: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and install it with dpkg01:53
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KolaNorsuok thx =)01:53
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gbaumanprofoX`: version 1.4.x of what?01:53
HellDragonmwe: dpkg doesnt work either01:53
profoX`gbauman: amarok01:53
Warboweirdo: "apt-cdrom" I am not sure ho to use it though (maybe look in it's man)01:53
HellDragonmwe: everything is screwed up01:53
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mweHellDragon: huh?01:54
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lupine_85dpkg -i <package-name>01:54
mweHellDragon: sounds bad01:54
weirdoya it's the dapper cd01:54
lupine_85apt-cdrom is for adding cdroms to the repo01:54
HellDragonITS ALL the fault of RAGEIRCD01:54
gbaumanprofoX`: Oh, ok, just some KDE app. gstreamer the project is alive and quite excellent.01:54
HellDragonthe dpkg and apt-get are trying to install it01:54
HellDragonand it doesnt work01:54
profoX`gbauman: yes I know that ;)01:54
HellDragonbut it keep trying everytime i try to do soemthing01:54
profoX`gbauman: I was referring to the Amarok Gstreamer engine01:54
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HellDragoni tried everyting01:54
mweHellDragon: oh01:54
gbaumanprofoX`: I gotcha01:54
profoX`:)01:54
mweHellDragon: I had to manually fix the APT database once01:55
profoX`I never liked the gstreamer engine anyway.. Xine engine has always worked better here :) (for amarok)01:55
lupine_85 weirdo: comment out all the net repos, leaving just the cdrom one. Then apt-get update. Thensudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:55
lupine_85see if that does the trick01:55
gbaumanprofoX`: Yeah, but 0.10 fisxed a lot of the big architectural issues. Gstreamer is almost as cool as the BeOS Media Kit now01:55
profoX`gbauman: I know BeOS, but I dont know their Media Kit :)01:56
weirdoerm.. how do you exit out of manpages?01:56
weirdolol01:56
Quicksilvaanyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed?01:56
HellDragonmwe: :'(01:56
lupine_85q01:56
profoX`weirdo: type Q01:56
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weirdohaha.. i was trying ctr+everything01:56
profoX`lol01:56
gbaumanprofoX`: I hope GNOME catches up to the BeOS tracker's metadata handling some say01:56
gbaumansome day01:56
lupine_85you could always copy the .deb to a cd or CF or *something* and xfer it to your laptop that way?01:56
lupine_85(from whatever computer you're at now)01:56
WarboGstreamer Amarok engine always screws up for me, so I use Xine. It seems like gstreamer tries to catch up to itself or something, and the song stutters01:57
profoX`gbauman: I don't know alot about BeOS (almost nothing) I know it's a closed source OS that's pretty cool and fast :) and that there is an open source project Haiku that wants to create an open source BeOS, but thats all I know :)01:57
Quicksilvaanyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed :/01:57
profoX`Warbo: yea I know, but in 1.4.x gstreamer will be gone anyway, it's unsure if it will come back or not01:57
mweHellDragon: what I did, and only try it at own risk was. back up /var/lib/dpkg and removed the enry for the broken package. that way apt thinks it's never been installed01:57
WarboprofoX`: I wanted to try Haiku in Qemu, but you need to install BeOS first, then turn it into Haiku :(01:57
profoX`Warbo: wtf?01:57
profoX`you sure?01:58
erdrickanyone know how to get my OpenGl to use my radeon drivers and not the mesa drivers?01:58
WarboprofoX`: I know. The CD images of BeOS they offer are not iso format either01:58
HellDragonmwe: fixing X first would be a better idea :(01:58
gbaumanWarbo: That's because the Haiku project is replacing the BeOS's commercial closed-source parts from inside the BeOS itself01:58
mweHellDragon: except you need dpkg to do it01:58
lupine_85!xorg01:58
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:58
AdemanI know this could be considered stupid or futile, but I'd like to make this petition, and i'd like people to review it before I post the draft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135001:58
Dev05erdrick, You have to get the ATI Propietary X Server Drivers.01:58
bigmarCusWarbo: You still there?01:58
HellDragoni cant go on sites01:58
profoX`gbauman: Warbo: oh I didn't know that ._.01:58
Warbogbauman: Exactly, like GNU replacing UNIX until Linux came along01:58
HellDragonIM IN TEXT MODE01:58
jamieexit01:58
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AdemanHellDragon: awesome :-)01:59
BlueEaglehelldragon: also your caps lock seems to be stuck.01:59
mweHellDragon: and you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg01:59
HellDragondpkg = broken01:59
Ademanyou're boned01:59
erdrickDev05: the driver install download won't do the trick?01:59
Ademanlol01:59
HellDragonapt-get = broken01:59
Ademanhow is it broken?01:59
mweHellDragon: I told you how to fix it01:59
HellDragoni get errors01:59
BlueEaglehelldragon: and links2 is a good text-mode web browser01:59
HellDragonmwe: yeah01:59
mweHellDragon: I told you how to fix it01:59
HellDragonmwe: but i want X working first01:59
Ademanwhat errors?01:59
mweHellDragon: you can't01:59
Ademanyou need dpkg first to get x working01:59
Dev05!tell erdrick about ati02:00
profoX`Ademan: if it was more structured I'd consider reading it :) divided into paragraphs02:00
mweHellDragon: you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg02:00
HellDragonmwe: yes02:00
looktji need to install latest jdk02:00
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profoX`Ademan: it would make a better petition too :)02:00
KolaNorsulupine_85: thanks very much to you, im sure it will start now :)02:00
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erdrickDev05: that's cool how did you do that?02:00
mweHellDragon: so how do you plan to fix X first when it depends on dpkg which is not working?02:00
lupine_85figners crossed :)02:00
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Warboerdrick: Is that radeon driver as in radeon, or as in fglrx?02:00
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AdemanprofoX`: I tried to keep it short, hence the single paragraph, you think i should divide it though?02:00
Dev05erdrick, the bot.02:00
erdrickDev05: its fglrx02:00
HellDragonmwe: im trying to fix it02:00
HellDragonhaving someone sshing into my box would be better :(02:01
profoX`Ademan: yea02:01
Warboerdrick: OK, I could never get that to work :)02:01
mweHellDragon: are you listinging at all?02:01
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HellDragonmwe: im lost in irssi02:01
weirdowhen i try commenting out the http://archive.ubuntu..... it says not found02:01
gbaumanHey does anyone know the kernel 'vga=xxx' parameter to get native console resolution in 1440x900?02:01
HellDragonmwe: im trying to backup the dpkgs02:01
Dev05erdrick, Go into the ATI page and download the drivers.02:01
mweHellDragon: you can't fix Xorg without fixing dpkg first02:01
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HellDragoni know02:01
HellDragonthats not what im doing02:01
jamieDev05: Thanks man02:01
weirdobut when i uncomment, it found the package to downgrade but then says failure resolving the address02:01
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Dev05erdrick, Or use Synaptic.02:01
profoX`Ademan: use Enters and divide into 2 or 3 paragraphs.. it will read easier on the eyes02:01
mweHellDragon: just cp the file to antoher one02:01
Dev05jamie, You're welcome.02:01
FantasticFooi upgraded my version of xserver-xorg to a newer version from an unofficial .deb package - it apparently isn't compatible with my system somehow. how can i "downgrade" to the dapper version?02:01
HellDragon10gb of files02:02
jamieand whomever helped me downgrade X02:02
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mweHellDragon: huh?02:02
jamiegot it working02:02
HellDragonill do it if its the only solution02:02
HellDragonbrb02:02
profoX`FantasticFoo: it was an official package. :(02:02
beermunkis anyone available to answer a pptp question?02:02
gbaumanbeermunk: I can try02:02
profoX`FantasticFoo: does this work? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:02
jwisejamie: did the latest X update wreck your Xserver?02:02
jamiecan someone repost the bug, so I can look at it not in w3m? :D02:02
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jamiejwise: yes02:02
mweHellDragon: the status file is 10GB ?! I doubt it02:02
WarboI noticed that xserver-xorg is upgradable. Are these Xorg errors being discussed here to do with that, or something about edgy?02:02
beermunkthanks gbauman -02:02
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FantasticFooprofoX`: what was an official package?02:02
jwisejamie: cool.. that's why i'm here too02:02
FantasticFooprofoX`: hmm, i'll try that...02:02
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icemananyone using a optiplex dell ?02:02
beermunkbasically i'm trying to convert my settings from my windows vpn to pptp-config gui in kubuntu02:03
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profoX`FantasticFoo: xserver-xorg-core in dapper-updates is broken..02:03
WarboOK, I won't upgrade it then :)02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: crud!02:03
profoX`FantasticFoo: don't ask me how the bug slipped in ._.02:03
jamiejwise: I downgraded X like profoX`is saying02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: so i just follow that command, and bang?02:03
jwisethat's what i'm trying now02:03
HellDragonmwe: im looking into the things i copied now02:03
sureshot_hey i have an toshiba laptop with a 17" tft monitor why will ubuntu not work it say no monitor defined02:03
jamiejwise: worked like a charm for me02:03
mweHellDragon: what did you cp?02:03
lupine_85weirdo: it can't be on your CD then. Have you got any way of transferring the file to your laptop from the pc you're on now?02:03
jwisei think i hosed it more by "apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core", though :(02:03
profoX`FantasticFoo: if it downgrades the package, then it should be fine02:03
beermunkfor some reason after I connect I can ping outside sites but not inside sites02:03
HellDragonmwe: the whole /var/lib/dpkg02:03
lupine_85how did you get the update on in the first place02:03
FantasticFooprofoX`: sweet!02:04
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mweHellDragon: you shouldn't02:04
weirdois lan plug and play?02:04
profoX`jwise: lol I think so too, reinstall it lik ethis: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:04
icemanAnyone Using a Dell Optiplex P4 3 GHZ, ht ... ? system ?02:04
mweHellDragon: just /var/lib/dpkg/status like I told you02:04
HellDragon:(02:04
BlueEaglehelldragon: If you're unable to fix your X by yourself I can send you the fix in /msgs if you'd like.02:04
HellDragonmwe: ok02:04
HellDragonbrb02:04
beermunkit's like pptp-config isn't letting me use the domain name correctly02:04
jamiejwise: that's what i did ^^  what profoX` is saying02:04
lupine_85jwise: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop, or whatever) to get your packagtes back... then do the fix mentioned above02:04
jwisejamie: my X is up and going02:04
FantasticFoobrb, i'm gonna reboot02:04
jwiselupine: awesome, thanks!02:04
profoX`FantasticFoo: after the command, try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start     and X should start (if you use gdm as login manager that is)02:04
profoX`okay nevermind ._.02:04
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HellDragonok im nano'ing the Status i copied02:04
mweHellDragon: then search for the broken package in the status file and remove the 10 lines or so for it02:05
Warboweirdo: If you have DHCP then yes. If not then you need to know IP addresses02:05
HellDragonmwe: ok02:05
Ademanis dell considered an OEM?02:05
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jamieok guys.. since this is Day 1 in Ubuntu for me, I'm off to read some more02:05
weirdothen i shall try that.. thanks and brb02:05
icemanYes dell is OEM02:05
HellDragonmwe: is there a way to search for text in nano ?02:05
mweHellDragon: but be sure you have the backup handy in case you srew up02:05
HellDragonyeah02:05
erdrickDev05: do i download the installer or x.org 6.8 they don't have an x.org 7.0.0 listed02:05
weirdoctr + w?02:05
sureshot_does anyone know why ubuntu will not start x on my toshiba laptop it detects the ati card but has problem with the monitor02:06
mweHellDragon: ctrl-W I think02:06
HellDragonwee thanks02:06
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Dev05erdrick, Yeah, take the latest version you find... Should work :)02:06
profoX`jamie: problems like these rarely happen.. this is the first big problem I encountered in ubuntu in my half year experience with ubuntu.. I'm a little bit pissed though.. that an obvious bug like this slipped in!02:06
mweHellDragon: when you find it make sure you remove all of the lines in question02:06
icemansureshot_ mot likely trying to display to the Monitor port on the Laptop02:06
HellDragonyep02:06
HellDragontheres like 20lines02:06
mweHellDragon: it will be about 10 after each other. or 20 yes02:07
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Dev05How do you get IRC in text mode???02:07
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mweDev05: irssi02:07
jwiseDev05: sudo apt-get install ircii02:07
jwise:)02:07
ardchoilleDev05: irssi02:07
hanasakii pluged in a usb disk .. normally the system is in gnome and picks it up / automounts it.   this box is now remote w/o a gui... so how do i tell where the usb disk is in /dev ?02:07
sureshot_iceman i dont understand i am a newbie may i ask you to explain02:07
TeatherwindAnyone able to assist me with the install of flash on firefox?02:07
SNowyou had a Deal with quagga ?02:07
Dev05mwe, jwise, ardchoille, I wish I knew that before. Thanks!02:07
icemansureshot_ is the a place on the laptop to plug a monitor in ?02:07
ardchoille:)02:07
jamieprofoX`: I'm a long time debian user,  I figured it was something simple but without X searching through text is hard.  LOL02:07
SNowhow could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?02:08
mweDev05: yeah. handy if you screw up X ;)02:08
sastraxi(EE) No devices detected. no screens on my X server configuration, ubuntu 6.0602:08
sureshot_iceman yes there is..02:08
lupine_85hanasaki: usually it'll automatically make a file in /dev for you... try ls /dev *usb*02:08
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sastraxiand here's the kicker --- it was working before a reboot with no change in configuration02:08
mwesastraxi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:08
lupine_85or it'll show up as an sdxxx driver02:08
icemansureshot_ you have a monitor you can plug in ?02:08
lupine_85e.g. /dev/sda02:08
lupine_85if your hard drives are /dev/hd*02:08
sureshot_i can get one yes02:08
dibblegoafter installing 6.06 desktop on i386 how much s downloaded with apt-get update?02:08
Dev05Teatherwind, I guess you can go in Synaptic and install it. You have to first enable the channels that aren't selected by default in the GNOME Application Installer.02:08
hanasakilupine_85, all i have is  /dev/urandom02:08
deltabSNow: in and out, or sent and received02:08
profoX`jamie: yea I used debian for a long time too02:08
sastraxioh lord02:09
HellDragonok i did it02:09
HellDragonim testing02:09
sastraxithank you, mwe02:09
sastraxiI've been banging my head against the wall for an hour02:09
wizardbanging head can be good :)02:09
icemansureshot_ because the system has two displat port, on for the Screen and one for the external, look at the bio's and see if you can specity which to use02:09
profoX`jamie: with today's bug I somehow wish I stuck with it ;) (this is not true in general, I like ubuntu better as a desktop os)02:09
sureshot_iceman is it confusing the port with the lcd screen02:09
TeatherwindThanks Dev05, I didn't see it.. but I will look again..02:09
hanasakilupine_85, no luck02:09
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method|ubuntu vastly miscalculates the freespace on my fat32 partition, anyone know what could be the cause of this?02:10
sureshot_ok gives me someware to look thanks a lot02:10
Dev05Teatherwind, Otherwise open a page that requires Flash and Firefox will guide you through.02:10
lupine_85then something is broken? My /dev has loads in02:10
wizardanyone got a cure for this xorg update?02:10
lupine_85how about /dev/bus/usb?02:10
HellDragonweird its installing the linux kernel image02:10
HellDragonand some other things02:10
lupine_85sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:10
icemansureshot_ exactly, I get the same issue in a Dell with a ADD on Nvidia card. I have to install tot he onboard video, then reconfigure to the nvidia02:10
HellDragonill let it do it02:10
lupine_85or https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:10
jamieprofoX`: I will say the ubuntu install is easier LOL02:10
Dev05wizard, lupine_85 did.02:10
jwiselol... this is the biggest thing to hit ubuntu since 6.06!02:10
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mweHellDragon: what did you do?02:10
profoX`jamie: lol, debian 3.1 isn't that hard either02:10
TeatherwindTried that.. d/l'd the package.. extracted it.. ran it in the gui.. terminal pop'd up .. and then closed..02:10
sureshot_iceman thanks again02:10
sureshot_will try02:10
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SNowhow could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?02:11
hanasakilupine_85, no luck its not in there iether02:11
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Teatherwindif I try to do it in term then, I can't seem to locate the directory.02:11
icemansureshot_ i'm still a newbie at linux, but can lead you a little...02:11
HellDragonmwe: removed the ~20 lines in status who were talking about rageircd02:11
jamieprofoX`: no, ,not at all, but I had to do NOTHING with ubuntu..heh02:11
HellDragonmwe: and i think apt-get is working now02:11
Dev05Teatherwind, are you using GNOME?02:11
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lupine_85what happens when you run MAKEDEV (while in the /dev directory)02:11
TeatherwindYes02:11
sureshot_iceman well when you dont know ware to look you seem to be blind LOL at least now i will look there.... i am runing solaris at the moment but want ubuntu02:12
lupine_85you should be doing all this as root/sudo, btw02:12
mweHellDragon: I mean why is it installing linux and such02:12
sastraximwe: that worked, thanks :D02:12
profoX`jamie: oh, yea, after install, configuration goes smoothr in ubuntu, hardware detection too :)02:12
mwesastraxi: yw02:12
jwisereboot time... :-/02:12
HellDragonmwe: i got no idea lol02:12
Dev05Teatherwind, so then open gnome-terminal and drag'n'drop the .sh file that you downloaded fromt the Macromedia Flash Download page.02:12
icemansureshot_ check the Bios, and try pluging in a Monitor and see if you get a display02:12
HellDragonmwe: maybe because i tried a dist-upgrade that failed02:12
mweHellDragon: how much is it installing?02:13
ZambeziIs there systemfiles like log which I can delete? I need to free space.02:13
sureshot_ok will do i will do that now thanks02:13
HellDragonit just finished installing 40 things without errors02:13
jamieanyone use an Ipod with ubuntu?02:13
HellDragonyay it works02:13
HellDragonnow reboot time02:13
BlueEagleubotu: tell jamie about anyone02:13
mweHellDragon: did you type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or what?02:13
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HellDragonmwe: i dont know i did a lot of things02:13
HellDragonreboot time no02:13
HellDragonw02:13
TeatherwindNm.. figured it out...  I d/l'd the wrong package.  " \'x86_64\'" isn't supported02:13
weirdo_back02:13
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TeatherwindSo I will need to find the correct package.  Didn't know I could drop the file in to term.02:14
BlueEagleWhy is helldragon rebooting? Did he install a new kernel?02:14
weirdo_followed directions on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:14
TeatherwindThanks for that tip Dev, that will make my life MUCH easier.02:14
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weirdo_but didnt work02:14
BlueEaglejamie: Did you read the /msg from ubotu?02:14
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weirdo_gave me a 302 moved temp error02:14
mweBlueEagle: I think he did02:14
Dev05Teatherwind, Did I help??? Anyway...02:14
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TeatherwindHonestly..02:15
maddlerhas anyone updated latest xserver-core on dapper AMD64?02:15
maddler(hello)02:15
jamieBlueEagle: ya02:15
weirdo_but if i click on it in browser of diff comp, it works02:15
TeatherwindYes.. because I was having some issues with the basic pathing of the file.02:15
TokenBadfriend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?02:15
TeatherwindI couldn't seem to find it.. or figure out what 'where' I started.02:15
BlueEaglejamie: Good. Did you have a question regarding ubuntu and ipod or were you just conducting a survey?02:15
Dev05Teatherwind, oh.02:15
mweBlueEagle: but I don't think he realised he only had to reboot if he upgrade the kernel but he dissappeared before I had a chance to speak02:15
K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/02:16
jamieBlueEagle: Well.  I'm doing more research on my own.  When I narrow my question down to something that's acceptable I'll let you know02:16
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BlueEaglemwe: We'll just have to tell him about it when he gets back. :)02:16
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Dev05What's the bash command to delete folders?02:17
BlueEaglemwe: may I /msg you regarding the bug? Do you know anything about it or more spesifically the scope of hardware/software it affects?02:17
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deltabDev05: rmdir02:17
lupine_85rmdir02:17
lupine_85or rm -rf02:17
Dev05wow02:17
BlueEagle!ipod02:17
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto02:17
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lupine_85(if the dir has stuff in and you're feeling brave)02:17
deltabrm -r would be enough, usually02:17
BlueEagleubotu: tell jamie about ipod02:17
BlueEaglejamie: hope that helps.02:17
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jamieBlueEagle: It does, thank you02:17
HellDragonmwe: apt-get works dpkg works but not X02:17
mineraleHi, I have vncserer running. I used to be able to run a gnome session inside xvnc without no problem, now all the sudden I get an error saying:  gnome-session: you're already running a session manager02:17
Dev05deltab, lupine_85, Thanks! :) Bash-delete time!02:18
HellDragonill try a dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg02:18
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lupine_85Dev05: have fun :)02:18
mweHellDragon: I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.debserver/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:18
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wizardlupina cure worked02:18
eternalswdI just returned to college and need to change my time zone and time.  The time-admin is not remembering the settings I change, what can I do?02:18
FantasticFoohmm02:18
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FantasticFooafter downgrading to a working x.org version...02:18
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MrBallZHi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup ubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...02:19
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BlueEaglemwe: That was a fantastically long url.02:19
FantasticFooX works, but 1) i  have no 3d accel 2) i have no working window manager02:19
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mweBlueEagle: it was wrong02:19
lupine_85it was broken02:19
FantasticFoocan anybody help?02:19
swarmHey - How do I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?02:19
Dev05erdrick, how's your driver finally?02:19
weirdo_how do you eject cds in terminal?02:19
lupine_85eject02:19
mweHellDragon: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:19
wizardcan i lock out that update, it wants to do it again :(02:19
Warboweirdo_: "sudo eject /dev/cdrom-name"02:19
K^Holtzshould i direct my question about azureus and ubuntu updates to another channel?02:19
lupine_85just tell it not to02:19
ali1234how do i compile ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-26-386 from source?02:19
lupine_85I think synaptic has an option to peg it at a particular version, but adept doesn't02:20
erdrickDev05: i'm running that fakedrive stuff from the websight you had the bot show me02:20
Warboali1234: Install "linux-source-2.6.15" (that contains all of the patches to build -26)02:20
weirdo_damn.. i guess terminal cant read cdrw02:20
ardchoilleHow do I tell apt-get to update everything except the latest xserver update?02:20
weirdo_does that mean i have to burn 3mb of xorg core on to a blank cd?02:20
lupine_85ali1234: "make clean", "make menuconfig", "make", "make modules_install", "make install"02:20
BlueEaglemwe: The bug, does it only affect ATi?02:20
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Dev05erdrick, I didn't see what the bot said. Hold on.02:20
Dev05!tell Dev05 about ati02:20
Zerojakelhello02:21
swarmDoes anyone know how I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?02:21
ali1234Warbo: did that. i just get a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 - which fails to compile02:21
ardchoilleWell, all of the folks who install Ubuntu today will be screwed02:21
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Warbo!kernel02:21
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:21
TokenBadfriend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?02:21
lupine_85setup a script in /etc/rc5.d02:21
HellDragonmwe: wgetting it02:21
WarboI can't give any more info than that page sorry02:21
lupine_85^(swarm)^02:21
ali1234Warbo: tht only has instructions for 2.6.17... which i'm already running in the background02:21
swarmso everything is that dir is run at startup?02:21
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Zerojakeli have a problem with the update xserver-xorg-core?02:22
Zerojakelis it a bug?02:22
lupine_85everything in that dir is run on entry to runlevel 502:22
lupine_85which by default is when the GUI starts up02:22
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K^Holtzwill azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/ if i should direct this to another channel plz just let me know02:22
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swarmthere is something in there, S14ppp02:22
ardchoilleBlueEagle: I don't have ati or nvidia cards and that update broke mine too02:22
lupine_85zerojakel: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:22
Warboali1234: wtf? I've never actually read it, but I was assuming it actually let someone compile a kernel which Ubuntu ships....02:22
HellDragonlol i cant find where wget saved the .dev02:22
lupine_85you need to unzip it, if that helps...02:22
HellDragon.deb02:22
jwisewas anyone with the buggy X server running Xgl?  I still seem to be hosed02:22
HellDragonits not in my home directory02:22
ali1234Warbo: "note that this page describes how to do things for the Edgy (2.6.17) kernel and newer! Until this kernel source, we did not have any mechanisms in place that would allow people to build their own kernels easily. This was intentional."02:23
deltabK^Holtz: it's own update mechanism is probably independent of anything else02:23
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deltab^its02:23
erdrickDev05: dangit when i get to the "fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" part is says requested package is not suported02:23
ali1234so, maybe it's not easy, but someone must know how to do it :)02:23
swarmSo it seems that there is already a script there for it, but I need to find out how to enable i.02:23
K^Holtzdeltab: o ok, i was unaware it was capable of that02:23
lupine_85make-kpkg is the "Debian Way"(tm), however, it's crap02:23
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Warboali1234: Oh. I always built my custom kernels the regular way, no packaging or anything, so I didn't notice02:23
Dev05erdrcik, I guess this is the easiest way to get it running (I have an nVidia, so I'm not sure for ATI's): http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide02:23
TokenBadno one knows?02:24
deltabK^Holtz: it's been a while since I used it, but I think it has its own update02:24
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BlueEagleali1234: Are you looking for help to compile your own kernel?02:24
ali1234BlueEagle: Yes02:24
Dev05TokenBad, What's the actual error?02:24
rummikhey, i just installed flash player and there's no text appearing...i remember i had to do something with fonts, but i can't remember what. what am i supposed to do?02:24
ali1234i need to apply a tiny patch for a bug i found, to find out if it really is a bug02:24
BlueEagleali1234: are you registered with nickserv so that you can recieve messages?02:24
jrib!fonts02:24
ali1234yep02:24
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto02:24
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer02:24
erdrickDev05: yeah i've been to that wiki too i keep haveing the same trouble at the same spot02:24
HellDragonok found it02:24
HellDragondpkg -i ing it02:25
TokenBadDev05, says that and then says some themes, sounds or backgrounds will not be loaded02:25
K^Holtzdeltab: i dont see it.. do u think update manager will recognize theres a new version or no?02:25
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ardchoilleWell, that'll teach me to stay up-to-date, lol02:25
rummikjrib: thanks02:25
deltabK^Holtz: I guess so02:25
erdrickDev05: when i go to run fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/drapper it keeps telling me that the requested package is not supported02:25
wizardlol02:25
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wizardlocked my core now'02:25
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HellDragonX works !02:26
HellDragonthanks mwe02:26
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K^Holtzdeltab: i just dont wanna download a jar file and complicate things more than they have to be02:26
HellDragonnow i just need to configure it02:26
Dev05erdrick, The way I ran nVidia's is just with a -q parameter...02:27
Noah0504Hey everyone.02:27
deltabK^Holtz: how did you install it?02:27
bigmarCus_How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?02:27
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Dev05erdrick, And then it just compiled.02:27
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TokenBadDev05, this is the full error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135702:28
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weirdoi keep getting file moved error when i try to wget the xorg core file02:28
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K^Holtzdeltab: sudo apt-get install azureus02:28
erdrickDev05: so insted of Ubuntu/drapper try using a -q?02:28
LinuxHelper, how do I check what session my user is logged in to (gnome or kde)?02:28
AdemanprofoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21358   revised02:28
Dev05erdrick, I've never tried ATI's...02:28
deltabbigmarCus_: smbmount /192.168.1.102/mp3 somedir  I think02:28
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bigmarCus_deltab: thx ill try it02:29
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deltabK^Holtz: repeating that should update it, as I understand it02:29
sizzamLinuxHelp: try opening your home folder, should be the same name as your username02:29
lupine_85works here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:29
Khellendroswtf02:29
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profoX`Ademan: k ill check02:29
weirdoworks on this computer too02:29
Bonez56omgwtf02:29
weirdobut not on the laptop02:29
LinuxHelpsizzam, k..02:29
K^Holtzdeltab: o, i woudlnt think thats the case.. ill give it a try later tho.. after i wait to see if it autoupdates.. tahnks for your time02:29
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weirdokeep getting a 302 Moved Temporarily error02:30
bigmarCus_How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?02:30
sizzamLinuxHelp: there might be a smarter way, but i dont know it02:30
AdemanI know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135802:30
profoX`Ademan: I see some spelling mistakes02:30
AdemanprofoX`: i know i wrote it in gedit02:30
profoX`lol02:30
weirdooh wait.. i think it's because im trying to connect directly to the modem02:30
weirdoand my isp isnt recognizing the mac address02:30
Ademani'll spellcheck it after I can get the content down i guess02:30
sizzamAdam_G: F7 to check spelling in gedit02:30
Dev05TokenBad, No idea. on what's wrong. Sorry :(02:31
sizzamoops02:31
sizzamAdeman: F7 to check spelling in gedit02:31
lupine_85spoof the mac?02:31
weirdodamn i dont have an extra lan cable02:31
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Disastormhi02:31
linuxd00dcan gnome run KDE software?02:31
Ademansizzam: i didnt realize gedit spellchecked :-p02:31
lupine_85ifconfig <interface> hw ether <mac address>02:31
jriblinuxd00d: sure02:31
sizzam:-)02:31
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135702:31
profoX`you write the same thing always, is it benefits, or benifits02:31
Disastormcan someone help me my x server broke and now it says "fatal server error no screens found"02:31
profoX`I thought it was benEfits02:31
weirdois that permanent?02:31
Ademanlinuxd00d: of course, you just need the KDE libraries, which if you install a KDE program through apt-get should install by defaults02:31
profoX`but english is not my native lang02:31
lupine_85disastorm: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715802:32
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Disastormthanks02:32
jwisewhy has the buggy xserver-xorg-core not been removed from the update stack?02:32
linuxd00djrip: i was pretty convinced it did, but i wasnt to sure if it run all KDE platform02:32
profoX`Disastorm: type in terminal: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:32
profoX`jwise: ( yea it annoys me too )02:32
linuxd00dAdeman: cheers :)02:32
Georgefor some reason mplayer is complaining that xvideo isn't present when xdpyinfo says it is02:32
jwisemy X is still hosed... i can run X, but Xgl is really messed up :(02:33
Georgeand thus won't use xv as its video output thing02:33
Disastormso that new version of the core is broken??02:33
profoX`jwise: Xgl is still a bit buggy anyway :)02:33
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AdemanprofoX`: haha, yeah i just spell checked it, should be better now, but you think I should try and use a thesaurus for the benefit words?02:33
profoX`Disastorm: seems like it !!02:33
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profoX`Ademan: I don't care :)02:33
jwiseprofoX`: it's worked BEAUTIFULLY for me for the last few months02:33
swarm_Hmmm.....02:33
swarm_Anyone know of a URL with info on how to dialup on boot?02:34
AdemanprofoX`: well, I want people to like it and believe in it02:34
profoX`jwise: you use the compiz or compiz-quinn ?02:34
jwisecompiz02:34
sethkjwise, it's foolish to upgrade, just because there is an upgrade, when everything is working perfectly for you02:34
swarm_There is a script in rc5, but I do not know how to configure it, and am not seeing any documentation02:34
profoX`Ademan: I would sign it, I mean I don't care about the spelling (mistakes)02:34
Disastormso is it going to come up again and ask me to upgrade it but i just shouldnt upgrade?02:34
jwisesethk: wha?02:34
sethkjwise, sorry, wrong nic02:35
deltabAdeman: does Dell have a contract with Microsoft that requires them to pay for Windows on every machine, whether included or not?02:35
jwiseah02:35
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lupine_85swarm: you can just add a command for 'pon', if everything's configured properly?02:35
jwisedeltab: most likely02:35
dravasI just installed Compiz and now what do I do02:35
Ademandeltab: no clue, i doubt it because they do offer red hat on their servers02:35
profoX`Ademan: However, I would make a small text and put that in bold, where you state in short what the request is for, and then in normal font the full text02:35
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Ademanthey probably have a committment to buy a certain amount of licenses though02:36
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Disastormthanks guys i can startx again!02:36
profoX`Ademan: and I would use empty lines between the paragraphs instead of the spaces in front of it.02:36
dravas!compiz02:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:36
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deltabAdeman: are those systems cheaper if configured with the same hardware options?02:36
eXistenZWhat is the best burning software in gnome02:36
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Ademandeltab: the linux systems?02:36
deltabyes02:36
lupine_85gnomebaker02:36
AdemaneXistenZ: I like graveman02:36
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deltabI've heard that they are more expensive02:36
profoX`eXistenZ: I would say K3B :P02:36
eXistenZAdeman, better than nero?02:36
profoX`(yea, even in GNOME)02:37
lupine_85..."in gnome"02:37
sethkdeltab, that is sometimes true, yes02:37
profoX`k3b runs in GNOME doesn't it02:37
AdemaneXistenZ: graveman isnt pretty but it works great02:37
AdemanprofoX`: yep02:37
sethkdeltab, because red hat isn't free02:37
bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp302:37
wolfmanzanyone got any idea why after i install kubuntu and update it the xserver wont start up?02:37
eXistenZI see02:37
lupine_85yes, but all the extra libraries aren't worth it for one package02:37
Ademandeltab: hrm, I couldn't really tell you02:37
lupine_85wolfmanz: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:37
profoX`eXistenZ: there is also nerolinux if you want to buy it02:37
Ademanthat could be a large barrier however02:37
eXistenZprofoX`, Is it good02:37
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profoX`eXistenZ: I don't use that :) I use K3B02:37
lupine_85k3b rocks ;)02:37
deltabbigmarCus_: did smbmount work?02:38
Ademanthe KDE project got something right!!!02:38
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eXistenZprofoX`, I see02:38
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lupine_85k3b++02:38
bigmarCus_deltab: wasnt a valid command02:38
profoX`k3b is for KDE initially, but if you don't mind some extra kde libs, it will run fine in GNOME02:38
lupine_85kopete++02:38
band-aidcan anyone give me a step by step to dual boot XP and linux using grub?02:38
lupine_85kmail--02:38
profoX`Ademan: please spare me your kde comments :) i like kde alot myself02:38
AdemanprofoX`: sorry02:38
lupine_85band-aid: the installer should have set it up automagically?02:38
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band-aidIt didn't02:39
weirdowhoo finally02:39
band-aidIt just partitioned the drive and installed02:39
band-aidIt told me to restart02:39
band-aidand I did02:39
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band-aidand it didn't work02:39
Ademanits probably because i started with GNOME, installed kubuntu on my mom's computer, and had a hell of a time re-learning everything i knew how to do in gnome02:39
band-aidbooted right to XP02:39
profoX`Ademan: I once was a KDE evangelist ;) but now I realized both are cool in their own way, and they're both bloated :)02:39
AdemanFLUXBOX!!!!02:39
kaotyar!02:39
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weirdono gui is the best gui02:40
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profoX`fluxbox is just a wm.. can't really compare that to kde or gnome02:40
profoX`i use fluxbox for my games though02:40
profoX`it saves on RAM :)02:40
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AdemanprofoX`: yeah true02:40
kaotprofoX`: I've got a perl script the fires up a naked X server for playing games.02:40
lupine_85k, then see the example /boot/grub/menu.lst here: http://www.antlinux.com/lifebook/menu.lst02:40
kaots/the/that/02:40
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Ademanit was amazing with Damn small linux on my anchient computer (300 mhz) fluxbox, even running off of a live cd, TORE ASS02:41
profoX`kaot: yea well, I got a bash script for that :P02:41
lupine_85you just want to copy out the section marked "For Windows NT or 95"02:41
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lupine_85and paste it (as root) into your /boot/grub/menu.lst02:41
wizardanyone having sound issues after that xorg deal?02:41
profoX`kaot: not that hard, right? something like X -ac :1 & DISPLAY=:1 fluxbox02:41
kaot"tore ass" means something completely different in my lexicon02:41
lupine_85assuming your windows partition is /dev/hda, you're set02:41
lupine_85otherwise edit the (hd0,1)  line accordingly02:41
kaotprofoX`: well, it's also got a little menu when you fire it up, where you can pick which game you're gonna play and whatnot02:42
profoX`kaot: reason I run a wm (fluxbox) there because I like to play some games windowed, or I want to load a terminal/browser in background02:42
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profoX`kaot: oh, like Xgame ?02:42
lupine_85(e.g. /dev/hdxy == (hdnum(x),y)02:42
kaotyeh that's what it is in fact02:42
toddobryanCould someone help me set up a printer?02:42
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profoX`lupine_85: almost02:42
toddobryanI'm trapped in a Windows world...02:42
kaot(I didn't say I wrote it  :\  )02:42
lupine_85yeah, I was just thinking...02:42
lupine_85grub offsets the second from 0 as well02:43
wizardso no to windoze02:43
profoX`/dev/hdxy = (hdnum(x-1),y-1)02:43
lupine_85so 0,1 is actually /dev/hda202:43
lupine_85well spotted :)02:43
profoX`yea02:43
profoX`:)02:43
wolfmanzlupine_85: after doing that command you gave me can i then update ubuntu and should i leave the xorg update checked off?02:43
profoX`kaot: oh lol ;)02:43
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profoX`kaot: I never tried it.. I like to do it my own way :P02:43
weirdoradeon driver DRI is only 2d acceleration right?02:43
lupine_85wolfmanz: probably not02:43
profoX`weirdo: wrong02:43
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weirdono?02:43
wizardonly one that needs windows is bill gates02:43
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profoX`weirdo: radeon + dri = full 3d acceleration :)02:43
Warboweirdo: On a lot of newer cards yes. On my card I get accelerated 3D02:44
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Warbo(Radeon 9200)02:44
weirdoi have an rs30002:44
lupine_85if you do it in synaptic or adept, you can choose to preview changes then re-deselect the xorg package again02:44
weirdo9100 igp02:44
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erdrickWarbo: you have a radeon 9200??02:44
weirdocant get fglrx to work02:44
profoX`weirdo: well I was thinking about older cards, because on a newer card you're better off with fglrx (proprietary driver)02:44
WarboProblem is, alpha is not accelerated02:44
Warboerdrick: yes02:44
profoX`on my 7500 it works with 3D accel with radeon+dri anyway02:44
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weirdocause im trying to get xgl/compiz to work02:45
ardchoillelupine_85: Seems a few people filed the same bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715302:45
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nannosomeone please REMOVE the xserver-xorg-core package from updates! it crashes xorg!02:45
weirdowell it works.. just laggy02:45
profoX`nanno: we know..02:45
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sethknanno, yes, we know02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85: do they plan on fixing this so we can get that updated xorg?02:45
weirdoand i get like 1386fps in gnome02:45
nanno:D02:45
erdrickWarbo: i got the driver installed but could you tell me how to get OpenGL to use the fglrx driver instead of the mesa ones02:45
WarboCompiz is a no-no on DRI for me (alpha is used heavily, which makes it damn slow)02:45
profoX`nanno: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:45
haasteemhi, is it still possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the update manager?02:45
sethkremember my motto, don't upgrade for no reason.02:45
lupine_85I don't think any developers are awake right now02:45
profoX`weirdo: I get like 1800 with my radeon 750002:45
blockycan someone reccommend a good video editor that could be used to join 2 avi files02:45
lupine_85there's a bug report, though, so no doubt it'll be fixed asap02:45
Warboerdrick: I can't get fglrx to work. That is why I use DRI02:45
weirdodid you try xgl/compiz?02:45
Ademan**(I would appreciate some more eyes checking this out)** I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135902:45
lupine_85...before the big morning upgrade, hopefully!02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85:  cool02:45
nannoprofoX`, yeah i know i fixed it but im sure a lot of people are going to have a headache with this since it will kill their X server ;)02:45
haasteem!hoary02:45
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"02:45
wolfmanzlupine_85: thanks for the info02:46
profoX`nanno: yea i know.. im pissed too..02:46
haasteem!upgrade02:46
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.02:46
erdrickWarbo: will that let me play games ?02:46
Warboweirdo: If you look on the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com I have left a few extra instructions if you want to follow the forum guide it links to02:46
haasteemhmm... so i guess yes02:46
profoX`nanno: this should never have happened if you test the software before you release02:46
nannoprofoX`, but glad to know people know about this already... although i just updated cache and its still there :(02:46
Warboerdrick: DRI accelerates 3D, but not alpha (transparency), so it depends on the game02:46
profoX`nanno: i'm pretty pissed about this bug.. i hope theres a good explanation for it slipping in02:46
nannoprofoX`, aye... im sure there is not :)02:47
sethkprofoX`, somebody made a mistake.  It happens02:47
erdrickWarbo: world of warcraft and halflife 2 mostly02:47
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gnomefreakwhat bug?02:47
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sethkthat's why I always wait a few days before upgrading when something is released02:47
sethkeveryone should02:47
nannognomefreak, dont update xserver-xorg-core or you wont have X... that bug :)02:47
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Singkong2005Hi, can someone help me? I installed TEA text editor and it shows as installed in Syn Package Manager but I can't find how to run it.02:47
profoX`Warbo: dont know what that means, but AIGLX runs fine (very fast! even with video playback) on my ati radeon 7500 (radeon+dri)02:47
Warboerdrick: They are a little newer than stuff I have tried. Actually I only have one non-Free game on Ubuntu, and that doesn't work02:47
gnomefreaknanno: ah yes X in dapper02:47
crimsunthat patch is direct from upstream, btw.02:47
WarboprofoX`: AIGLX runs fine for me, but not Compiz02:48
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gnomefreaknanno: it will be fixed i would say by late tomorrow02:48
profoX`Warbo: no problems here02:48
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profoX`Warbo: I run aiglx + compiz on my radeon 750002:48
Warbo(I had to run AIGLX instead of Xorg for a while until I fixed Xorg)02:48
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KrankilyAnyone familiar with the xserver-xorg.core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 update? It seems to have hose my install?02:48
lupine_85singkong: get a list of the files that were installed by the package (one of the tabs or buttons), work out which one is the binary, and run that (with full path) in a terminal02:49
profoX`gnomefreak: direct from upstream, what does that mean ?02:49
nannognomefreak, too bad it can't be fixed now by just removing the update02:49
weirdoWarbo: wow.. seems like a lot of work if something goes wrong02:49
profoX`Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:49
sethkKrankily, yes, it's been happening to everyone02:49
profoX`Krankily: theres already a bug report02:49
weirdoWarbo: from the looks of the main page02:49
nannoprofoX`, probably direct from xorg :)02:49
gnomefreaknanno: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download and install the old version02:49
profoX`nanno: oh.. well.. i'm NOT happy with it ._.02:49
lupine_85evil people that they are ;)02:49
dravas!nvidia02:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:49
nannognomefreak, no no.. i meant removing it from the repos02:49
gnomefreaksethk: not everyone :) it didnt bother my dapper02:49
KrankilyI'll have to install it again and just avoid the update02:50
Warboweirdo: Basically you need to downgrade the driver modules, otherwise Xorg complains about incompatible versions. Took me a while to figure out the cause (although with the recent Xorg update you may have problems anyway :) )02:50
lupine_85quick, let's all start using "that other X server"!02:50
sethkgnomefreak, well, many people02:50
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Singkong2005lupine: how do I find the full path?02:50
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sethkgnomefreak, I haven't installed it, so it didn't bother me at all02:50
weirdoWarbo: i had that trouble today02:50
profoX`gnomefreak: easier is to: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 :)02:50
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lupine_85it'll be in the file list02:50
gnomefreakprofoX`: there are alot of ways to do it :)02:50
KrankilyI'll assume one can't downgrade the update?02:50
McJerrywhat wireless pcmcia card works easiest and best with ubuntu on a laptop02:50
profoX`gnomefreak: yea but mine's easier :P02:50
sethkSingkong2005, if you know the file name you can search for it by name also02:50
lupine_85don't use synaptic so can't help any further02:50
nannoKrankily, it can easily be downgraded02:51
profoX`Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:51
profoX`Krankily: that will downgrade the package02:51
Singkong2005lupine: you mean a file list on the program's website?02:51
Warboweirdo: I saw it in the updates, but since I use a load of external repositories I didn't want to risk installing a non-Ubuntu version of such an important package. Turns out it IS an Ubuntu package, but a broken one02:51
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lupine_85no, in synaptic02:51
Krankilyah, same update, different location?02:51
weirdoWarbo: so much for keeping up to date02:51
nannolupine_85, yes.. highlight xserver-xorg-core and go to force version02:51
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sethkSingkong2005, try lupine_85's suggestion.  If you don't get anywhere with it, you can dump the entire file system in date order and look at files that changed recently; it will be one of them02:52
profoX`gnomefreak: shouldn't the maintainers that package everything for dapper check whether it works or not?02:52
nannolupine_85, package -> force version02:52
sethkprofoX`, of course, but it doesn't fail in all cases02:52
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KrankilyMine does not get to grub, so I'll just do a reinstall. :)02:52
lupine_85nanno: we're after a list of files installed by a particular package in synaptic02:52
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gnomefreakprofoX`: they test it yes. and as it didnt affect me it might not of affected them02:52
Warboweirdo: I have finally bought into the idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thankfully on the day where "fixing" it breaks it02:52
nannolupine_85, aha... sorry02:52
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profoX`sethk: I understand, but this bug seems to affect everyone, atleast I thought that02:52
lupine_85adept has it, and I vaguely remember it from my gnome days02:52
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Singkong2005lupine: looks like just tea and tea-data. can't see a full path.02:52
profoX`gnomefreak: oh it didnt affect you..02:53
gnomefreaknope02:53
lupine_85then just try running 'tea'02:53
blamelessso, i used software update to update my x11 and now all i get is No Devices Found in the xorg output.  any suggestions?02:53
sethkprofoX`, I don't know exactly why  it affects some, but not others02:53
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WarboCan anyone test xteddy, since it doesn't work for me on Xorg or AIGLX?02:53
sethkprofoX`, but it wasn't simply a case of not testing the package02:53
bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp302:53
helmetis anybody have problems with th ipw3945 dirvers?02:53
profoX`gnomefreak: sethk: ok.. then I'm not so mad anymore.. :)02:53
sethkprofoX`, not testing it enough?  obviously, but mistakes happen.02:53
Singkong2005lupine: did that, (tried to run tea in terminal) doesn't recognise it02:53
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nannoblameless: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:53
gnomefreakprofoX`: it could be as little as a typo02:53
KrankilyIt does install pretty quickly though02:53
lupine_85try slocate / | grep tea02:53
swarm_How do I configure ppp_on_boot?02:54
sethkSingkong2005, lupine_85 if he just installed, slocate won't find it02:54
KrankilyAlso, how large a swap file would I want for 1 gig of ram?02:54
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Phlostenthis seems to be the place for brokened xservers02:54
sethkSingkong2005, if it is called tea, you can use:   find / -name tea02:54
WarboKrankily: 1GB? Maybe none at all02:54
lupine_85oh yeah, it's database-driver02:54
McJerrywhat wifi pcmcia card works best under ubuntu?02:54
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sethkSingkong2005, if it isn't called tea, and you can't find the installed file list, do a reverse time ordered ls of the common locations for programs02:54
KrankilySo far I have a 1gb swap, 24g / and 24g home02:54
sethkSingkong2005, if that doesn't work, do a reverse time order dump of the entire file system02:54
lupine_85McJerry; check the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported02:55
blamelessthanks, i will try that02:55
Singkong2005I installed a few days ago - found something02:55
sethkSingkong2005, the entire root tree, actually, which may be several file systems02:55
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profoX`sethk: everything can't be tested on every machine, i know.. especially not with this rapidly evolving open source software.. but it's going to be a major pain for some people that are updating anyway. Why doesn't the repo get a fix so there won't be more people that get the problem?02:55
gnomefreakok time for bed night02:55
sethkSingkong2005, if you installed a few days ago, hopefully locate will find it for you02:55
XenguySingkong2005: dpkg -L tea   ?02:55
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profoX`gnomefreak: night02:55
McJerrylupine_85 tx02:55
sethkprofoX`, I suspect because it's the middle of the night where the developer is02:55
Singkong2005what'd dpkg do?02:55
lupine_85np02:55
ZonoidI need help partitioning. Should I be able to install Ubuntu without damaging Windows by installing it on the "pri/log" partition?02:55
Singkong2005(slocate is still listing files... lots of them)02:55
lupine_85atheros gets a good rep02:56
sethkSingkong2005, no, you do:   locate tea02:56
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bigmarCus_Warbo: you still around?02:56
sethkSingkong2005, is it listing files with tea in the name?02:56
Singkong2005yes02:56
XenguySingkong2005: that lists the files in any given package (if that is in fact what you're after)02:56
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WarboZonoid: If Windows is your only partition then shrink it "maybe defrag it first) and let the Ubuntu installer use the free space02:56
WarbobigmarCus_: nope02:56
lupine_85xenguy: much better solution :)02:56
bigmarCus_Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp302:56
Xenguyheh02:56
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ZonoidWarbo: The partition says, "pri/log   3.7 GB   FREE SPACE"02:56
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WarbobigmarCus_: I am terrible with networking, sorry. And I have never used Samba02:56
bigmarCus_Warbo: ok02:57
WarboZonoid: "Free Space"? That should be fine02:57
ZonoidWarbo: Okay. Thanks.02:57
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profoX`sethk: (I would think more people would have access to change it) but anyway.. let's just hope not too many people get affected by the problem (I'm imagining people new to linux that cant get X up anymore and will reinstall ubuntu, or install something else instead)02:57
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Singkong2005thanks Xenguy - the dpkg command gave a tidy little list. Is it "/usr/share/doc/tea" that I want?02:58
sethkprofoX`, true, but one should get into the habit of not installing things the moment they are released.02:58
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?02:58
sethkSingkong2005, no02:58
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profoX`sethk: like I said, people new to linux :)02:58
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop 6.06 because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?02:58
MetaMorfoziSis there aprogram that can be triggered and it turns on and or off xmms02:58
ardchoilleprofoX`: Even if they re-install Ubuntu, the xserver-xorg-core package will be taken from the repos, and that package is currently broken. So, people who install Ubuntu today may be screwed before they can even use their box.02:59
MetaMorfoziS?02:59
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ZonoidI'm creating the partitions :-). I can't wait to use Ubuntu!02:59
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profoX`ardchoille: which will make them switch to something else for sure (if they can't figure out how to fix it)02:59
MetaMorfoziSardchoille: and who upgraded today, have a broken system?02:59
sethkMetaMorfoziS, xmms is a program.  so I don't get the question02:59
XenguySingkong2005: yw - I'm not exactly sure what you want tho :-)02:59
KrankilyIf reinstalling and the partitions are set correctly, do I just install over them?02:59
profoX`MetaMorfoziS: not Everyone, but alot of people03:00
sethkKrankily, ye03:00
MetaMorfoziSsethk i need an other program that controls xmms03:00
ardchoilleprofoX`: good point03:00
sethkKrankily, yes03:00
MetaMorfoziSby time03:00
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?03:00
Krankilycool, thanks03:00
MetaMorfoziSprofoX`: it's cool.03:00
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sethkMetaMorfoziS, cron can do things for you on a schedule03:00
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MetaMorfoziSi need a guied ver:D03:00
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:00
sethkMetaMorfoziS, the "at" shell command can start a program at a particular time03:00
sethkmust be a gui front end to cron around03:00
h00ti cannot play any movie ... not in "movie player" or "vlan" or "flix" ... the movies just start and then the whole program quits.... can someone help me03:00
Singkong2005Xenguy, sethk: I want to run the "tea" program.03:01
sethkSingkong2005, yes, I know.  I've given you several suggestions on how to find the program , and the program name if necessary03:01
MetaMorfoziSthx...03:01
eternalswdI believe gschedule is the gtk frontend to cron03:01
profoX`h00t: try to use a different video output in the settings of vlc or Mplayer or xine (like xv, x11, gl, gl2..) does that help?03:01
ardchoillesethk: xterm makes a nice gui front-end to cron ;)03:01
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, What video driver are you using?03:01
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Warbo!info gnome-schedule03:01
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:01
ubotugnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB03:01
XenguySingkong2005: what output does this give: dpkg -L tea |grep bin03:01
LinuxHelpwhats the binary that returns the number of lines passed to it through stdin?03:01
Xenguy?03:01
cafuegoLinuxHelp: wc03:02
LinuxHelpk03:02
Dartrunner_Hello, I just installed ubuntu and let it update, rebooted and now I am getting "Fatal server error: no screens found" when X is starting03:02
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sethkardchoille, that's true03:02
profoX`Dartrunner: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
cafuegoLinuxHelp: Specifically, 'wc -l'03:02
profoX`Dartrunner: bug is already filed.03:02
Corporal_DirgeDartrunner, You need to configure xorg.conf03:02
h00tCorporal_Dirge: ... i installed nvidia driver w/ "easy ubuntu"03:02
profoX`Dartrunner_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
Dartrunner_kk thanks03:02
sethkif there is an op here, put that apt-get command, for backing out the bad patch, in the channel topic03:02
lupine_85https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:02
BrandonTheBlackHi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?03:03
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Singkong2005Xenguy: "/usr/bin" and "/usr/bin/teaed"03:03
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Make sure it's selected in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:03
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XenguySingkong2005: if there is a '/usr/bin/tea', then that would likely be it03:03
Singkong2005Aha! Tea is running!03:03
h00twhat do you mean ... selected...03:03
weirdowhat is tea?03:04
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BrandonTheBlackso nobody can help me with my problem?03:04
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profoX`weirdo: something to drink03:04
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weirdolol the running kind03:04
profoX`BrandonTheBlack: I don't understand03:04
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, make sure there's a device that's using that as it's option. "nvidia"03:04
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sethkSingkong2005, teaed sounds like a daemon for tea03:04
eternalswdBrandonTheBlack, is the problem that it can't boot from the DVD drive?03:04
sethkSingkong2005, try running it03:04
profoX`BrandonTheBlack: why do you need to mount your dvd drive to install ubuntu?03:04
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BrandonTheBlacketernal: it boots, loads the installer, then tells me it cant mount the drive03:05
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sethkhe means that the install fails at the mounting cd/dvd point03:05
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Corporal_Dirgeh00t, in the terminal type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:05
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sethkBrandonTheBlack, you can try running the install with dma for the drives disabled03:05
deltabhow is the drive connected?03:05
BrandonTheBlacksethk, i dont know what that means lol03:06
BrandonTheBlackdeltab: its an ide drive03:06
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hovinenAnyone here know about the problem with the latest update to xserver-xorg-core on Dapper?03:06
sethkBrandonTheBlack, at the boot prompt, hit f1 and read all the help03:06
h00ti see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver03:06
deltabBrandonTheBlack: that :-)03:06
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h00tCorporal_Dirge: i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver03:06
Singkong2005Xenguy, sethk, lupine_85: Thanks heaps! I'm going to try and set it up on my panel now so I can launch it easily.03:06
sethkh00t, yes, nv is the open source nvidia driver03:06
disastormhey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?03:06
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XenguySingkong2005: yw03:06
wikijeffI'm having a problem, I think it's specific to OpenOffice, but I'm not sure, where I'll be typing along and suddenly it will randomly paste in some text which I guess I may have come across in firefox. I can't see any pattern in so far as when it happens, but it always happens when I'm typing in OpenOffice.03:06
KrankilyWhat is the latest nvidia driver, btw?03:06
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Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Try the nVidia driver and see if that works better.03:07
reikiProblem: tried to run Synaptic. Password prompt came up. Entered sudo password. Synaptic did not start. No error displayed. Now I can't get it to display pasword prompt. Synaptic appears to be non-functional. help please03:07
eternalswdhovinen, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:07
deltabwikijeff: is it text you've selected?03:07
BlueEaglewikijeff: laptop?03:07
h00tso the 'promise' of "easy ubuntu"  isn't to install proprietary but only generic driver ???03:07
wikijeffBlueEagle, yes a laptop03:07
hovineneternalswd, Thanks. I did so.03:07
noddabaJust installed dapper, and the fonts in the Firefox menubar are aliased (un-antialiased?).  I put gAIM's menu up against Firefox's menu, took a screenshot and zoomed in.  Sure enough Firefox fonts are not being smoothed.  anyone have any ideas?03:07
wikijeffdeltab, it may have been at one point03:07
sizzamreiki: do this from a command line:   ps -ef|grep synaptic03:07
erdrickhow can you tell if the person you are looking for is on or not03:08
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hovinenAny word on when this update will get fixed?03:08
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, When installing an OSS OS it prefers all OSS software and drivers.03:08
profoX`h00t: easy ubuntu and automatix and that automatic stuff can't always be trusted03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: You might have defined a "middle mouse button" are of your touch pad that will paste when you accidentally brush against it.03:08
reiki!find libinklevel03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: I think it's most commonly placed in the top-right corner.03:08
ubotuPackage/file libinklevel does not exist in dapper03:08
wikijeffBlueEagle, that sounds possible, how can I disable it?03:08
reikisizzam: that command appears to indicate synaptic is not a running process03:08
BlueEaglewikijeff: ie. try clicking the top-left of your touch pad to see if that functions as a middle mouse button (ie pastes)03:09
sizzamreiki: hmm, interesting03:09
h00tcan someone help me install proprietary driver03:09
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, I had to manually install lots of proprietary software by hand. But at least they let you make the choice to lock yourself into that system.03:09
BlueEaglewikijeff: Hmm.. not sure where to look for that setting. I'll do some googling for you.03:09
wikijeffBlueEagle: thanks03:09
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Dartrunner_profoX: thanks, worked great03:09
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profoX`Dartrunner_: you're welcome03:10
BlueEaglewikijeff: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ seems applicable but doesn't at first glance show how it's configured.03:10
jwiseargh... teaches me to use Xgl on ubuntu...03:10
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wolfmanzafter running easy ubuntu do you have to do anything special to activate the ati driver?03:10
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135703:11
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, just a second.03:11
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2903:11
weirdoi'm following this guide.. it's telling me to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:12
weirdois that going to upgrade the stupid xorg core again?03:12
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erdrickso is it spelled drapper or dapper?03:12
lastnodeerdrick, dapper03:12
BlueEaglewikijeff: Seems to be possible to comment out the event in /dev/input/event* but I'm not sure if that will work with udev03:12
ali1234TokenBad: is your homedir mounted?03:12
erdrickwow and all the problems and headachs i could have saved by figureing that out sooner03:12
BlueEaglewikijeff: You might also want to check your xorg.conf and perhaps trying to comment out the wacom devices in your server layout.03:13
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Corporal_Dirgeerdrick, http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=dapper03:13
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Corporal_DirgeInteresting name to say the least. =)03:13
h00twhy then would the damn movies not play ... they are in avi format BTW03:13
wikijeffBlueEagle: wacom devices in my server layout?03:13
profoX`h00t: no codecs maybe?03:14
h00thow do i install codex03:14
BlueEaglewikijeff: Yes. Did that sound greek to you? ;(03:14
profoX`h00t: did you install w32codecs and stuff like that?03:14
BlueEagle:)03:14
profoX`!w32codecs03:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:14
weirdoautomatix is good for auto installing codecs03:14
profoX`the first link there03:14
wikijeffBlueEagle: yes03:14
Corporal_Dirgeh00t, Because even if everything else works, the video card needs the video stream in the right format.03:14
profoX`weirdo: please do NOT advise automatix.. I've had alot of people with problems because they used automatix!03:14
weirdoo03:15
profoX`(easy ubuntu is better, but I suggest you just follow the wiki when you need something)03:15
wikijeffBlueEagle: I'm familiar with xorg.conf, but not the wacom devices in my server layout part03:15
Corporal_DirgeI favor http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper becuase you pick and choose what to install one by one.03:15
BlueEaglewikijeff: if you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will see three sections called "InputDevice" that has got the wacom driver. They should be stylus, eraser and one more thing that I never remember. I am not sure but synaptic might be using those.03:15
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BlueEaglewikijeff: I for one have removed them from mine but they have been installed by default even on desktop systems.03:16
weirdomy laptop touchpad is fine if i remove all the wacom stuff03:16
profoX`weirdo: yea :) I don't know how it's going nowadays, but some of the most respected ubuntu developers advice you to not use automatix, so I think it's best to avoid it if possible03:16
BlueEaglewikijeff: As weirdo sais. His pad improved. It might be worth a shot.03:16
profoX`Corporal_Dirge: yea ubuntuguide used to be bad, but it's pretty good nowadays03:16
weirdoer not improved03:16
weirdono change03:17
Corporal_Dirgeweirdo, Because it's a script it doesn't handle errors properly and passes up needed steps.03:17
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visik7new xserver-xorg-core conflicts with my nvidia driver xorg doesn't start anymore03:17
foxjwillhow do i start apache on start-up?03:17
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profoX`Corporal_Dirge: for instance.. i also heard it modifies your sources.list in a very strange way03:17
wikijeffBlueEagle: the third one is cursor, I should get rid of all three sections?03:17
BlueEaglevisik7: Known bug. Workaround is to downgrade.03:17
profoX`visik7: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715803:17
visik7already downgraded03:18
BlueEaglehow come that bug isn't in topic btw?03:18
visik7do I need to hold the package ?03:18
profoX`BlueEagle: no op i think03:18
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profoX`visik7: you downgraded to ubuntu10 ? and you restarted X ?03:18
reiki!find libvye.so.403:18
Singkong2005Hi again... can someone tell me how I change keymapping? I'd like to link my Windows start key to the Applications menu.03:18
visik7yes now it works03:18
ubotuPackage/file libvye.so.4 does not exist in dapper03:18
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lupine_85ooh03:19
profoX`lupine_85: why don't you just improve the support in edgy to make more drivers work out of the box :) isn't that the same?03:19
weirdoya Singkong2005.. i was wondering the same t hing03:19
ali1234wikijeff: the touchpad is usually driven by the synaptics driver - not to be confused with the package manager tool. it looks like the only way to fix your problem is to disable tapping altogether03:19
lupine_85!find rt2570.ko03:19
BlueEaglevisik7:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715803:19
ubotuFile rt2570.ko found in linux-image-2.6.15-22-386, linux-image-2.6.15-22-686, linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server-bigiron03:19
reikianyone interpret this? d:/etc/apt$ sudo synaptic03:19
reikisynaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:19
profoX`reiki: did you get an update for libvte.so.4 and it broke synaptic ?03:19
lupine_85profox`: I've been trying :)03:19
profoX`reiki: u use xgl ?03:19
BlueEagleubotu: tell reiki about gksudo03:19
reikiprofoX`, not that I know of03:19
profoX`reiki: well, here's how to fix.. (hold on)03:20
reikiBlueEagle, good point03:20
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BlueEaglereiki: but that's not the cause of your error.03:20
lupine_85see http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 for improved support for four wlan cards03:20
profoX`reiki: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper03:20
lupine_85not to mention one config utility03:20
lupine_85added a note to launchpad about it today03:20
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BlueEaglereiki: The workaround I've recomended is to symlink /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 to point to /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.whateverisinstalled03:21
wikijeffOk, I turned off tapbutton2 and tapbutton3 and set MaxTapTime to 003:21
lupine_85but things like ndiswrapper and cards that require firmware are complete pains and impossible to do transparently using current procedures03:21
profoX`BlueEagle: yea but maybe it's better to downgrade the stuff to the default dapper stuff, he probably got the udpates from the compiz/xgl repository03:21
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reikithink compiz did this?03:22
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agneshey all!03:22
agnesI'm having a relatively serious problem with my Ubuntu..03:22
BlueEagleprofox`: Well xgl is fun. ;D03:22
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agnesI just ran the updates, which updated xserver-xorg03:22
profoX`reiki: therere was a problem in the compiz repository (if you use usp or compiz or xgl you might have gotten these updates) they have already been removed, but you have to downgrade if you have problems (or make the link that BlueEagle mentioned) or this: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper03:22
bimberiagnes: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:22
bimberiagnes: you're not alone03:23
profoX`agnes: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 03:23
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weirdois anyone gonna change the files at the repo?03:23
profoX`weirdo: I hope so ._.03:23
reikiprofoX`, thanks... I don't really use compiz any more. It was pretty and interesting but not very usweful :) I think I'll just remove it03:23
agnesbut now I get '(EE) No devices hmm.03:24
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BlueEagleweirdo: They will be changed when someone gets out of bed tomorrow and read the logs. :)03:24
agnesit says it can't find that version.03:24
agnesprofoX` if this is such a problem, why not take away the update?03:24
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bimberiprofoX`: that might happen03:24
agnesoops. forgot to add 'core'03:24
weirdolol03:24
BlueEagleagnes: The question should be how the update got there in the first place. :)03:24
weirdothey're still sleeping03:24
profoX`agnes: I'm not responsible for it...03:24
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janbananWhat is the XGL on ubuntu?03:25
BlueEagleubotu: tell janbanan about xgl03:25
weirdois everyone having problems with the xcore update? or just some/most ppl?03:25
BlueEaglejanbanan: in short: Eye candy03:25
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agnesBlueEagle well, I think it's OK for problems to happen.. but to perpetuate once reported? booo!03:25
BlueEagleweirdo: I haven't seen it in the norwegian mirror yet.03:25
profoX`BlueEagle: according to gnome-freak it was upstream, so its caused by xserver-xorg itself, not by the ubuntu patches/packagers03:25
janbananDoes it work with ATI graphics?03:25
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BlueEagleagnes: The people responsible need to sleep at times too.03:25
profoX`BlueEagle: I hope they will fix it soon, a bug is already reported03:25
profoX`janbanan: most ati graphics yes.03:26
janbanansweet03:26
agnesBlueEagle  : )03:26
profoX`janbanan: XGL is a hack on top of Xorg that uses OpenGL for drawing, in combination with a compositing wm like COmpiz you can get nifty effects, check www.youtube.com and search on "compiz" or "xgl" ;)03:26
agnesalright.. time to get back to X.. thank you.03:26
jordanaui have a legal question, i decrypted a enc_grouppwd for vpnc so i could log onto a server i am allowed to connect to, is that legal?03:27
BlueEagleprofox`: Well even if ti was a bug from xorg imo it should be tested with and without the patches before being released into the repos. That's just my opinion. Then again I don't mind waiting a week to be sure to get updates that don't break my system. :)03:27
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BlueEagleprofox`: That's just my opinion. I know people that are complaining that the current updates of the repos are too slow.03:27
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profoX`BlueEagle: I agree and thats my opinion too, but it seems like not Everyone has the problems.. gnome-freak said he didn't have the problem for example..03:27
BlueEaglejordanau: We are not lawyers. ;)03:27
BlueEaglejordanau: go to ask.slashdot.org :p03:28
janbananIs there any reason not to use the 64-bit version of dapper when i have 64-bit processor?03:28
profoX`janbanan: yes03:28
bruenigI just did an apt-get update and the xcore update appeared. Should I install it?03:28
profoX`janbanan: 64bit version will cause problems when you want to run certain 32bit codecs or when you want to run wine to run windows apps03:28
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profoX`janbanan: also no skype and flashplugin for 64bit among other things03:28
Tanker_1Noob needs help? I installed v5.10 of Ubunto and everything worked great I tried to upgrade to 6.06 LTS and now gnome wont start up, gives me a no screens found error, I've checked around on the net and found several pages but none that helped.03:28
BlueEaglejanbanan: lack of popular software for 64-bit processors is still an issue.03:28
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swarmjanbanan, I, too have a 64 bit processor, and was running 64...03:29
jordanauokay second question once i connect to a vpnd server what is the way to access the files on that server?03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: yea we know03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 03:29
swarmI find it to be a bit smoother and faster than 32-bit, but the software support is lacking03:29
swarmI could not get my modem to work in 64, after a few weeks of trying...03:29
Tanker_1phew! i thought it was something i did. :)03:29
janbananprofox: thanks03:29
Tanker_1thank you03:29
swarmso I switched back to 32 which recognized it instantly03:29
profoX`Tanker_1: big bug that slipped in through upstream :( we have to live with it until it gets fixed03:29
swarmI would switch back to 64 if my modem would work, though. it is smoother.03:29
profoX`janbanan: you're welcome03:30
justin_Tanker_1: As long as you do not fry your harddrive you always have a second chance :P03:30
profoX`Tanker_1: the command I gave you should fix it though03:30
janbananswarm: thanks mate03:30
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swarmNo problem, man03:30
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Tanker_1running it now thanks.03:30
Tanker_1last linux distro I played with was like redhat 6 or 7 :(03:31
zovirltonight I turned on my dapper machine & the wifi doesn't work.  nm-applet says "no network devices have been found"03:31
justin_Redhat.. no good :(03:31
zovirlI tried restarting the network, rebooting03:31
zovirlnothing helps03:31
justin_The only Linux I have stuck with is Ubuntu, usually im on OpenBSD.03:31
weirdotry clearing the device list?03:32
weirdoworked for me03:32
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Tanker_1unfortunately I got promoted to management and dont get to do the techie stuff, but a friend (one of my techs) talked me into going to linuxconf in sf the other day, I felt SOOO lost :(03:32
profoX`Tanker_1: redhat 7.3 .. i hated that one03:32
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weirdo/etc/network/interfaces03:33
profoX`justin_: openbsd as DESKTOP ? :)03:33
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profoX`i'd only take that for a desktop if i was really really paranoid about security03:33
zovirlweirdo: just throw it all away?03:33
paradizelosthey all, i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password03:33
paradizelostit's the saved password that was there before03:34
weirdowell before i couldnt get networkmanager to work03:34
BlueEagletanker_1: Does the management job keep you from having a hobby? :p03:34
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justin_profoX`: I am paranoid about security :D03:34
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weirdoi read that if there is stuff in the interfaces file then networkmanager wont touch the eth devices03:34
gpmhey, anyone know how to convert flash swf files to avi?03:34
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Tanker_1unfortunately i got addicted to Evercrack, then Warcrack :(03:34
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justin_Gpm, well I Know how to convert FLV to MPG.. but swf to avi.. not sure03:34
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justin_try / ffmpeg -i filename.swf -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 output.mpg/avi03:35
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bruenigSo install the xserver update or don't install the xserver update, what is the recommendation there.03:36
rummikhey, what happened to msttcorefonts?03:37
ardchoillebruenig: if you install it, you'll have to revert and the update will be back in the update list03:37
BHSPitLappyrummik, it's not there?03:37
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justin_bruenig: Is your Xserver working?, is there an exploit ?03:37
rummikBHSPitLappy: nope03:37
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bruenigardchoille, alright seems like a pretty clear no03:37
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BHSPitLappyrummik, looks like it is to me.03:38
rummikBHSPitLappy: i already did 'sudo apt-get update'03:38
gpmcompresseed swf format not supported :(03:38
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lostincIs there a significant change when I change kernels from the i386 default kernel to the K7 kernel that lists the Sempron processor?03:38
BHSPitLappyrummik, maybe you have repo issues.03:38
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paradizelosti had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password03:38
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Tanker_1profoX - Thank you, its back up and running.03:38
rummikBHSPitLappy: on my laptop it says i have the latest version, on my desktop i didn't have it, so it's not letting me get it03:38
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justin_gpm, Yeah that is what I thought... I do not think you can change SWF to AVI.. well you possibly can but I think you are going to have to do a lot of google searching, or download something for windows - there tends to be more software on windows for that type of stuff03:39
profoX`Tanker_1: no problem. :)03:39
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deXtrezzahey does anyone know if it's possible to view hdd's that are ntfs?03:39
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paradizelostdeXtrezza: yes03:39
profoX`deXtrezza: what do you mean with view? browse them? sure03:39
deXtrezzahow do i go about doing that?03:39
paradizelost!ntfs03:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:39
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natural20can anyone help me install vassal on breezy?03:39
lupine_85lostinc: not really03:39
weirdowhat's ur address03:40
weirdolol03:40
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lupine_85a few optimisations that may or may not speed your computer up a bit03:40
profoX`deXtrezza: manually mount: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only03:40
profoX`deXtrezza: on boot up: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only03:40
lostincSo I guess what is the point of all the kernel versions then?03:40
paradizelostdeXtrezza: read is possible, write is very iffy and not recommended03:40
swarmjesus. Everyone posts threads online about making it NOT autoconnect on startup, but no info on how to make it connect on startup... I have even read those threads to try to modify it backwards. Nothing03:40
profoX`write will come in half a year for sure if you ask me..03:41
profoX`ntfs-3g looks promising03:41
deXtrezzahmm i see, so fat32 overall is recommended03:41
kitchelostinc the point of all the kernel versions is more hardware supported or bug fixes03:41
lostincI see.03:41
paradizelostswarm: what are you trying to have connect automatically?03:41
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profoX`deXtrezza: or just plain ext3 / reiser4 / whatever instead of fat32/ntfs :)03:41
zarstarhola03:41
paradizelostwireless?03:41
swarmdialup.03:41
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swarmsimple ole dialup03:41
bruenigthis is probably an anomaly but does anyone know why a single key on the keyboard would stop working but then after a restart would work again?03:41
lostincI plan to start using the i686 kernel since I have read that even though I have a AMD Sempron I would be better off with the i68603:41
deXtrezza;p i see new to me03:41
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paradizelostahh. k. don't ask me.  i haven't used that in years03:42
paradizelostand never on linux03:42
paradizelostdo you have a script that connects?03:42
rummikBHSPitLappy: should i try installing it again tomorrow?03:42
zarstarI've I little problem with ubuntu network (wireless) ....can anyone help me?03:42
paradizelostif u do, just add that to a startup script03:42
paradizelostzarstar: what's the issue?03:42
BHSPitLappyrummik, I don't think that would help03:42
paradizelost!ask03:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:42
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swarmwvdial connects it03:42
zarstar:) tnx03:42
natural20seriously.  I'm a complete idiot; can't do a damn thing with linux.  I need some help installing vassal.  Please?03:42
zarstari've just install'd UBUNTU03:43
BHSPitLappyrummik, does your Synaptic work at all?03:43
paradizelostswarm: all you type is wvdial?03:43
swarmyes.03:43
Noah0504I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a Broadcom card :)03:43
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zarstarand I've setted up the network03:43
eternalswddo the commands for changing time zone explained at http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html apply to dapper?03:43
vikJust set up ubuntu-server on an old laptop, but the network has stopped working. It was working on a previous install of ubuntu. PCCard is recognised, module gets loaded, but 'ifup eth0' gives 'no such device'03:43
rummikBHSPitLappy: yeah, i'll go try that03:43
cafuegoNothing wrong with broadcom (these days)03:43
justin_Hmm, KDE is not as bad as it used to be...03:43
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justin_It's doesnt feel like it takes up the whole screen anymore yay..03:44
zarstari can do pings but te browser doesn't visualizes the web pages!!!03:44
Noah0504cafuego: Well, I had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working.  It wasn't hard though.03:44
glyphriderI just updated xorg-server on a dapper install and now X won't startup....  Anyone else seen this?03:44
paradizelostswarm: you should be able to add it to the /etc/rc.local script, or possibly someplace else if there's a better place to put startup stuff that someone can recommend03:44
cafuegoNoah0504: The 4318 and 4306 work OK now with the free driver + firmware.03:44
paradizelostzarstar: sounds like a DNS issue03:44
eternalswdglyphrider, it's a known bug, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:44
paradizelostcan you ping something like www.google.com or just an IP?03:44
lostincI have a built in SD card reader on my IC Power laptop. When I had Windows XP Home installed it detected it auto but nothing in linux. Can someone help me or point me to a site that might help me out.03:44
zarstarI thought the same..03:44
zarstari can ping www.google.com03:45
rummikBHSPitLappy: i searched for msttcore fonts on it, and got openoffice.org as the only package listed03:45
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paradizelostzarstar: then it's not dns03:45
zarstaror www.google.it03:45
rummikBHSPitLappy:*msttcorefonts03:45
zarstarso it's not DNS!03:45
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zarstarisn't it?03:45
paradizelostzarstar: what's the browse3r?03:45
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zarstarfirefox03:45
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lostincAre the msttcorefonts legal without a copy of Windows?03:45
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paradizelostcan you do about:mozilla03:45
Noah0504cafuego: Yeah, I have the 4318 card.  I actually just used a script I found on the fourms.  It set up ndiswrapper... not sure what else it did.03:45
lostincLegal as in the USA03:45
BHSPitLappyrummik, do you have multiverse enabled?03:46
zarstarmozilla firefox03:46
justin_lostinc: Probably illegal, however you will not be sued over "fonts" - unless you plan to make a big profit on them03:46
zovirlweirdo: that worked, thanks!03:46
weirdonp03:46
zarstarthe browser included by Ubuntu 6.06.103:46
lostincVery true justin_03:46
bruenigIf they know the new xserver update is flawed or what not. Why do they not pull it from the repos?03:46
cafuegolostinc: The versions in the package are, MS released them. (They changed their mind later, but the original release is of course still valid :-)03:46
glyphriderThanks; downgrading now....03:46
rummikBHSPitLappy: multiverse?03:46
paradizelostk. can you go to 64.236.29.12003:46
zarstarehm03:46
justin_lostinc: For personal use, you can use fonts for whatever you like - I mean.. they are simply shapes03:46
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BHSPitLappyrummik, yeah, the multiverse and universe repos.03:46
justin_lol03:46
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zarstarI'll try, wait a sec :P03:46
BHSPitLappy!multiverse03:46
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:46
zarstar(I'm on another pc!)03:47
BHSPitLappyrummik, ^03:47
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Lingo!easysource03:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:47
BHSPitLappyrummik, ^ too03:47
BHSPitLappy:P03:47
zarstarputting 64.236.29.120 in the browser?03:47
paradizelostyes03:47
Lingo!ubotu03:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:47
rummikBHSPitLappy: lol03:47
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eternalswdhow do I check if something is linked to a specific location?03:48
vikany ideas what would be causing 'no such device' errors when trying to bring up a network interface?03:48
justin_lostinc: Anyways do as you will with fonts - simply do not sell them as your own, or use them in big for profit projects and you will be find.03:48
paradizelostvik - the driver isn't loaded03:48
lostincjustin_ Yes I understand that. As a web developer switching over to solely linux I am sometimes hesitant to use anything microsoft since they once audited my computers as a business they thought I didn't have a license and well guess what I did. It made me really made with MS.03:48
paradizelostor the device doesn't exist03:48
vikparadizelost: the kernel module is loaded03:48
paradizelostdo an ifconfig -a03:48
paradizelostdoes it show up there?03:49
lostincWill be right back must reboot into the i686 kernel now.03:49
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justin_lostinc: F ms.03:49
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rummikBHSPitLappy: all i know is i have the settings from when i put ubuntu on this computer yesterday, maybe a couple extra games and flash player...but that's to be expected :P03:49
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vikparadizelost: interesting - eth1 appears there. But no eth003:49
BHSPitLappyrummik, look at those things.03:49
justin_If MS is going to sue someone over "fonts" that is really really sad.03:49
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bruenigms should sue linux. they do implement the double click without permission03:49
rummikBHSPitLappy: yup03:49
BHSPitLappyrummik, enabling those repositories is one of the first steps you should do.03:50
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paradizelostbruenig: don't give them any ideas03:50
BHSPitLappyjustin_, those are publicly released fonts.03:50
glyphriderMy X has returned to life; thanks to all.03:50
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cafuegobruenig: They can't, Apple used it before they did.03:50
BHSPitLappysue "linux"? like, sue the kernel?03:50
rummikBHSPitLappy: oh, i see03:50
rummikBHSPitLappy: user submitted stuff ^_^03:50
deXtrezzahow do i install something as root, i couldn't install my nvidia driver03:50
paradizelostdeXtrezza: sudo command03:51
wikijeffWhat determines which website icons are displayed in the Bookmarks Toolbar for Firefox?03:51
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BHSPitLappyrummik, you might want to fill the checkmarks in "Add/Remove..."03:51
jordanaui have my vpnc client running and connected, how do i browse the network i am connected to03:51
BHSPitLappyas well.03:51
bruenigwikijeff, it corresponds to the icon that shows up in the addressbar, not certain how that is determined though03:51
chiefinnovator_Hi!03:51
BHSPitLappyhi.03:51
chiefinnovator_anyone interested in helping me with an SSH question03:51
BHSPitLappy!anyone03:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:52
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: yes03:52
rummikBHSPitLappy: i did one of them already it looks like03:52
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weirdolol who implemented single click first?03:52
wikijeffbruenig: yeah I know, but although many websites have an icon in the addressbar most of them dont show the icon in the Bookmarks Toolbar03:52
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, $ ssh localhost03:52
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chiefinnovator_ardchoille, gives me03:52
chiefinnovator_Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer03:52
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ardchoillechiefinnovator_: Are you ssh'ing from one box to another on the same subnet?03:52
BHSPitLappyare you supposed to be able to ssh yourself?03:52
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, same box03:52
bruenigwikijeff, when you bookmark it. Sometimes it doesn't show up immediately. Usually you have to use the bookmark before the icon gets changed from the blank document thing03:52
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135703:53
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: You're ssh'ing in the same box? That's not what ssh is designed for03:53
chiefinnovator_Well, I tried it from my work computer earlier and got the same message03:53
justin_Has anyone else noticed that XFCE4 is slower then KDE now?03:53
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, ha, I know I just figured it would let me rule out firewalls, etc03:53
zarstarparadise, i can't ping 64.236.29.12003:53
ali1234TokenBad: did you check that the user's home directory exists?03:53
wikijeffbruenig: ok, thanks03:53
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justin_Not at first but run XFCE4 as your df winmanager for a while, and it starts to really slow down...03:53
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: The remote box needs to be running an ssh server, then you need to do ssh user@host to start an ssh sesion03:53
paradizelosttry pinging www.cnn.com, and put the ip address you get in the address bar03:54
TokenBadali1234, he updated from breezy to dapper and this started03:54
vikjustin_: how long you been running it for?03:54
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, I think it used to ask me to enter my user name03:54
ali1234TokenBad: so, is his home directory still present?03:54
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TokenBadali1234, yes...03:54
ali1234TokenBad: well then, best advice, is to rename the gnome settings folder, then gnome will recreate it03:55
CrazyMOanyone report xserver dying on an amd64 box after latest updates?03:55
chiefinnovator_ardchoille, So I should try it from a different computer?03:55
natural20so... does anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?03:55
profoX`alright i'm going to bed03:55
profoX`bye ppl03:55
bruenigCrazyMO, everyone03:55
ardchoillechiefinnovator_: yes03:55
chiefinnovator_Ok, I'll be back in a bit03:55
zarstar:S it seems I can't ping www.cnn.com :S03:55
chiefinnovator_thanks03:55
CrazyMOhow do I downgrade it?03:55
ali1234TokenBad: if that makes it work, then you can start to copy back the settings from the old folder. if it still desn't work, then you have more serious problems03:56
ardchoille!ssh03:56
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:56
paradizelostzarstar: try it w/ google.com03:56
vikany ideas why my PCCard ethernet comes up as eth1, despite there being no eth0?03:56
ardchoille!ssh > chiefinnovator_03:56
ali1234vik: sure there's no eth0? ifconfig -a03:56
zarstarin the browser?03:56
vikali1234: no eth003:56
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paradizelostzarstar: yah, ping the site, put the ip into the browser03:57
Genfoohow can I undo the latest xserver update?03:57
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bimberi!xorgbug03:57
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'03:57
_tccDoes Dapper ship with madwifi-old or madwifi-ng?03:57
zarstari can ping www.google.it03:57
paradizelostzarstar: k. put that ip into your browser03:57
zarstarand www.google.com03:57
Terlmann700 people! *freaks out again*03:57
Genfoothanks bimberi03:58
CrazyMOty03:58
zarstar"firefox browser web"03:58
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bimberiGenfoo: np :)03:58
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deXtrezzawhat is system utility 'ld'03:58
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zarstarno problem with that03:58
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paradizelostzarstar: hmm.03:59
paradizelostthat's odd03:59
zarstarthe browser shows correctly03:59
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zarstarthe google page03:59
Geoffrey2I just love program developers who don't believe it's necesarry to tell anyone else how to use their program...especially when they're charging you for it03:59
natural20anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?03:59
ranunculoidIs there a repository I can get the latest libxine builds for ubuntu?03:59
zarstarbut I can't ping www.cnn.com :S03:59
paradizelostzarstar: but does it resolve to an IP?03:59
zarstarnada04:00
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paradizelosthmm04:00
bkudriai have configured my laptop to work with my external lcd using nvidia's twinview...is there a way to switch from yusing both screens to useing just the laptop one?  currently, i have another metamode, but when i switch to it, it pans across a larger virtual screen... any ideas?04:00
zarstarno response04:00
paradizelostthis is a linux box riht?04:00
zarstarubuntu04:00
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zarstar6.06.1 jjust installed04:00
paradizelostwell, i dunno04:00
ranunculoidzarstar: no response from cnn.com for me either. They mustn't accept Pings04:00
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zarstarwhat the hell? :S04:01
ranunculoidTry pinging google.com04:01
zarstarmmm04:01
ranunculoidAlways works for me04:01
paradizelostranunculoid: i've had him through all that04:01
zarstarnot a matter, it works04:01
vikzarstar: I can't ping cnn.com. Some common sites block ping probes04:01
paradizelostranunculoid: it doesn't even resolve to an ip for cnn.com04:01
zarstarokok04:01
Terlmann6.06 stinks compared to 5.12(without ANY updates)04:01
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vikTerlmann: Amen to that04:02
ranunculoidDoes anybody know where I can get xine 1.1.2 for ubuntu?04:02
justin_Terlmann: Why?, because it does not include GCC by default?04:02
zarstarit's so strange :S04:02
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zarstarwhat could I do?04:02
ranunculoidI need it to play FLAC files04:02
jordanauhow do i view a vpn after i have connected to it04:02
justin_5.12 was not good, except for having GCC by default04:02
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paradizelostjordanau: a vpn is a network connection04:03
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zarstarever seen something like that?04:03
MadpilotTerlmann, what's 5.12? There was an Ubuntu 5.10...04:03
paradizelostit's not a file or a program04:03
Corporal_Dirgebkudria, As far as I know, you need to restart X to change to using just 1 monitor.04:03
ubuntuwhat is X server and how do i exit it so i can install my nvidia driver?04:03
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justin_Ubuntu, you do not need to exit X..04:03
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paradizelostdeXtrezza: the X server is your graphics04:03
deXtrezzawell the terminal says i need to04:03
paradizelostjustin_: to install the NVIDIA drivers, you do04:03
FirstStrikectrl alt tab04:03
zarstarwhat I could friends?04:03
deXtrezzahmm04:03
shawnr_ubuntulog, just install driver.. then press 'ctrl+alt+backspace'04:03
justin_Ubuntu, simply point xorg.conf to your new driver, and press -ctrl-alt-backspace, to restart it04:03
FirstStrikethat will kill x04:03
justin_paradizelost: Really?04:04
FirstStrikeer04:04
FirstStrikebackspace04:04
ranunculoidubuntu: restart your computer and select recovery mode from the list of options in GRUB04:04
justin_paradizelost: Wow that bites04:04
jordanauafter connected to a server remotely with vpnc, how do i view the data on the server?04:04
bkudriaCorporal_Dirge: no special work-arounds? bummer...04:04
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paradizelostjustin_: you need it to install the driver04:04
Terlmannin 5.12 via ac'97 busted afted a ubuntu update , and 6.06 doesnt install right the first 2 times, doesnt yet have the libs to do a proper media experience... l04:04
justin_Well then praise Radeon04:04
zarstarcould I reinstall smthing? :S04:04
SidHi guys.04:04
paradizelostjordanau: depends on how the data is there, is it on a fileserver, sql server, terminal server, what?04:04
SidAnyone here get "Nvidia Tv-out" working in Totem options?04:05
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vikI been having major ac97 probs with recent kernels04:05
jordanauparadizelost, i signed in through a cisco vpd client04:05
swarmSo if I remotely start a torrent in Lynx via a SSH program.... and I close the SSH program04:05
chiefinnovator_Ok everyone I'm back04:05
zarstarhola chief04:05
weirdoit's funny how my laptop lists every device as from ati04:05
jordanauparadizelost, except i used vpnc04:05
swarmand I re-login to SSH.. how do I re-open the lynx on the screen?04:06
weirdomodem, sound card, etc04:06
zarstari'm going mad04:06
swarmto monitor it04:06
ali1234swarm: run it in screen04:06
chiefinnovator_I tried ssh from a different computer same intranet deal04:06
chiefinnovator_same problem04:06
chiefinnovator_Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:06
paradizelostjordanau: that's just the way you access the network, that says nothing about how the data is accessed04:06
Corporal_Dirgebkudria, NVidia may have somthing special, I've been working with xorg for a few months trying to get my ancient laptop ati to do dual monitors.04:06
chiefinnovator_Is there a log file somewhere I should check?04:06
swarmali1234, I am using SSH.... I cannot load a screen via putty04:06
TokenBadali1234, what is the gnome settings folder named?04:06
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ali1234swarm: yes you can, it's command line04:06
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ali1234swarm: screen <the command>04:07
jordanauparadizelost, okay maybe this helps, for windows computers they go start > run > \\cadcfiles04:07
swarmWhat do you mean?04:07
swarmScreen lynx www.bleh.com ?04:07
paradizelostjordanau: ok, so that's a file server04:07
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ali1234swarm: yeah pretty much. without the capital letter04:07
paradizelostgo places -> network servers04:07
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chiefinnovator_maybe I'll try fsk04:07
swarmright04:07
chiefinnovator_command not found :-(04:08
swarmnow how do I get back into it?04:08
xnull192http://pastebin.ca/143478 (any ideea) ?04:08
swarmwhen I close it04:08
swarmwhen I close putty04:08
vikswarm: run screen. To detach the screen, just close the putty window (or ctrl-A then d)04:08
Corporal_DirgeDoes Ubuntu have anything capable of using WPA2?04:08
swarmah04:08
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swarmk04:08
vikswarm: screen -r reattaches04:08
ali1234swarm: it will load up like normal... if you type "ctrl-a d" you get back to the initial shell. then when you log in again, type "screen -r"04:08
paradizelostjordanau: go places -> network servers        and try to to browse to it04:08
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zarstarhow is it possible? I ping www.google.com04:08
paradizelost!screen04:08
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen04:08
zarstarbut in the browser it doesnt work!!!04:08
chiefinnovator_WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause04:08
chiefinnovator_SEVERE filesystem damage.04:08
chiefinnovator_how do I do it then?04:08
vikscreen rocks04:08
swarmoh, nice :)04:08
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swarmvery nice04:08
swarmindeed, screen rocks04:09
paradizelostswarm: is there a reason you are using putty instead of an xterm?04:09
oscuroguys, my printer is just nuts.04:09
zarstarbut www.google.it works :S04:09
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kjmoscuro : valium?04:09
oscuroit's printing weird characters :(04:09
paradizelostoscuro: that's a bad driver04:09
swarmparadizelost, I just said putty for ease of explanation. I am in reality using xterm :P04:09
oscurowhat's a ppd file??04:09
kjmoscuro : speaking in tonges is it?04:09
coreytHas anyone gotten lmsensors working with a nforce 430 chipset?04:09
TokenBadali1234, what folder do I rename?04:09
paradizelostswarm: that makes a difference04:09
chiefinnovator_too late, I have file system da .. . connection lost04:09
paradizelost:P04:09
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oscuroI have a hp deskjet 610c04:09
zarstarqlke italiano?04:09
jayteedamn! screwed up my xwindows!04:09
jayteerunning on a latitude d62004:10
oscuroand the system recognizes the machine.04:10
swarmnow, if someone else wants to view that screen, can they view it at the same time?04:10
oscurobut...04:10
paradizelostswarm: as the same user, they can type screen -x04:10
oscuroit prints weird stuff..04:10
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swarmnice :)04:10
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paradizelostotherwise you need to set screen up a certain way for multi-user mode04:10
crouchingMonkeyhow do i check if all of my drivers are up to date ?04:10
kjmoscuro : Speaking in tonges and acting bipolar is the sign of a problem.  The first thing todo is to get the printer to admit it has a problem.04:10
unix_infidelcan someone here paste bin their vimrc and gvimrc please?04:10
paradizelostoscuro: that's the #1 sign that it's got the wrong driver loaded04:10
kjmoscuro : second thing to do is reinstall the drivers for the CORRECT model printer.04:10
swarmthis should work just fine :)04:10
jayteeI had been using the nvidia drivers... then updated xorg stuff04:11
oscuro...ok I'll reinstall again.04:11
PurpleTailsDOes Ubuntu mess up dial-up connections?04:11
vikunix_infidel: what do you wanna do?04:11
swarmsure is slow though :P04:11
jayteehoisted by my own petard!04:11
oscurobut it was ok :(04:11
unix_infidelvik: test out a theory.04:11
ugarithow does one get mp3 files to play on ubuntu? I don't mean application because none of them play mp3's04:11
ugaritversion 6.06.104:11
kjmoscuro : mental diseases often attack in late age.04:11
swarmugarit, , 64-bit or 32-bit?04:11
paradizelostoscuro: turn it off for a while, and turn it on, holding the cancel button04:11
zarstarit's incredible, I can reasearch with www.google.it but the links don't work!04:11
paradizelostoscuro: it is a VERY old printer04:11
jayteesure... mp3s paly fine04:11
kjm!media > ugarit04:11
vikunix_infidel: a mathematical, computing, or social theory? (my money is on social)04:11
ali1234TokenBad: anything that's .gnome .gnome2 and anything that links to it04:11
shawnr_!mp304:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
bruenig!mp3 > ugarit04:11
ugaritswarm 32bit04:11
unix_infidelvik: just cat /etc/vim/* and pastebin.04:12
kjm!media04:12
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:12
unix_infidelvik: of the above, id say computing.04:12
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TokenBadso all the gnome folders?04:12
kjm!codecs > ugarit04:12
ali1234TokenBad: i just thought of something... if you reinstalled the breezy over the old install, maybe the permissions on the homedir are incorrect04:12
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swarmugarit, you will need codecs, check out www.ubuntuforums under the howto tips & tricks section, get automatrix or easy ubuntu04:12
ugaritswarm thanks04:12
swarmnp04:12
jayteewhat's the default inittab level y'all have set in /etc/inittab?04:12
ali1234TokenBad: so make sure his user has rw permission on those folders first04:12
vikunix_infidel: ain't got vim set up on this computer; my normal workstation is out of action atm04:12
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jaytee2?04:12
ugaritwhat an impressive version of linux, wow!04:12
TokenBadali1234, its not that he reinstalled breezy..he updated from breezy to dapper04:13
unix_infidelanyone else willing to do a simple pastebin: just cat /etc/vim/* and put the output into a pastebin please.04:13
unix_infidel!pastebin04:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:13
Co2Hello, is there a way to start the file browser with root access like with sudo on console?04:13
paradizelostTokenBad: did you run a gui program w/ sudo and not gksudo?04:13
bruenigco2, gksudo nautilus04:13
ugarithas anyone tried xgl?04:13
swarmIs there a better command-line torrent client than lynx?04:13
paradizelostugarit: yes, it's very nice04:13
swarmugarit, #ubuntu-xgl04:14
netsuiugarit: here here. Very very nice04:14
jayteecould someone look in /etc/inittab and tell me the default init level?04:14
swarmI could not get xgl to work with my ATI x30004:14
paradizelostswarm: i think azureus has a plugin for CLI access04:14
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natural20so why does ubuntu have a GUI if you can't move stuff to folders using it04:14
jordanauparadizelost, it doesn't show up in that window04:14
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swarmparadizelost, however to install that, I would need to be at the graphical part. :(04:14
TokenBadall he did was the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then rebooted04:14
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Madpilotnatural20, huh?04:14
ArtimusIs there a way to blacklist a PCMCIA module?  My friend has a card that uses axnet_cs.  However, it loads pcnet_cs and then messes the card up.  I tried adding pcnet_cs to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail04:15
larson9999jaytee: 204:15
paradizelostswarm: yes, sadly04:15
Co2Thanks bruenig04:15
dasosis there a way to set a lightweight desktop manager and restart X into it?04:15
bruenignatural20, you can if you want. But generally they try to make it a bit more difficult than drag and drop in order to help compensate for user error. natrual20, do gksudo nautilus and you can use the gui to move stuff to folders04:15
vikswarm: does lynx do torrents now?04:15
paradizelostswarm: ubuntu center has a torrent part04:15
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paradizelostit's web-accessed04:15
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paradizelostcan be done remotely04:15
jayteethanks... that's what I thought04:15
swarmvik, evidently :P04:15
swarmseems to be doing it for me04:15
larson9999vik: i wondered that too.   it's been a while since i've used lynx though04:15
paradizelostjordanau: what didn't come up?04:15
zarstartnx to everyone04:15
zarstarhere is 4.15 o'clock04:16
vikswarm: I've just been using the vanilla bittorrent package.04:16
larson9999jaytee: the reason run levels are different for different distros is beyond me.  i should read up on that.04:16
vikswarm: provides curses-based and headless clients04:16
Warbozarstar: Wow you're up late!04:16
vikswarm: I've heard good things about bittornado too04:16
paradizelostWarbo: or early04:16
Warbozarstar: It's only 3:15 here :)04:16
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ranunculoidSame here Warbo04:17
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zarstar:S i will not sleep :(04:17
zarstarfucking wireless!04:17
ejay69hello04:17
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ali1234vik: vanilla bt saturates my upload. bittornado allows to cap it. apart from that it's almost identical04:17
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vikali1234: vanilla bt can limit uploads04:18
ejay69can i ask some help in here about ubuntu?04:18
WarboMy wifi router died :( (and as soon as Ubuntu stopped crashing when accessing Wifi)04:18
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Warboejay69: That's why we're here04:18
bruenigutorrent through wine dominates both vanilla bt and bittornado04:18
BlueEaglejaakkos: read up on runlevels here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel04:18
vikbruenig: except when you need a non-gui version04:18
ejay69thanks warbo04:18
ali1234oh come on, i'm not installing wine just to download a file :)04:18
Madpilotali1234, Gnome's stock bittorrent has upload throttling, either by # of connections or by connection speed...04:18
bruenigvik, ah yes04:19
swarmI am going to try torrentcraft04:19
swarmi mean04:19
_sojournerhow do I get dapper ro redetect my hardware ? i changed my monitor and need to update my config04:19
swarmnixtorrent04:19
bruenigbik, I didn't realize that is what you were getting at. Coming in and out of the channel.04:19
bruenigvik*04:19
ali1234i havn't used a commad line torrent app for a while, i just use the gnome "whatever happens when you double click the torrent" now :)04:19
ejay69I am newbie and would like to ask some questions on setting up an ubuntu server that will handle DNS and e-mail04:19
vik_sojourner: for that try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'04:19
bruenig!ask04:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:19
ejay69lol04:19
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Winbox1I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Can anyone help me?04:19
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SidHas anyone here ever gotten Totem's "nVidia Tv-out" working?04:20
BlueEaglewell that's an understatement right there. "...chkconfig tool, which keeps its configuration settings in a mildly elaborate arrangement under /etc/rc.d/."04:20
ejay69is there a postfix guru here?04:20
denveris anyone aware of a xen package for ubuntu?04:20
Winbox1I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom' **04:20
bruenig!repeat04:20
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:20
denveror would i be best installing that by hand04:20
pfalconedid something happen to the xorg update today?04:21
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wnoisehey guys.  anyone have an idea why an update to the latest binaries in Dapper results in nvidia drivers ("nvidia", that is) no longer recongise my GeForce 6600?04:21
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bruenigpfalcone, yep04:21
BlueEaglewnoise: Known bug04:21
pfalconelooks like i ain't alone :)04:21
bruenig!xorgbug04:21
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'04:21
BlueEaglewnoise: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715804:21
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genfooI hooked up my laptop to my samsung lcd tv and I can't play movies on the TV04:21
bruenig!patience > bruenig04:21
BlueEaglebruenig: ahh, goodie.04:21
wnoiseBlueEagle> cheers!04:21
genfoothe place where the image should be simply is black04:21
genfooI guess framebuffer doesn't like my TV :P04:22
verbosegenfoo: lower the refresh rate04:22
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verboseto 60Hz04:22
genfooit should be 6004:22
kjm!patience04:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:22
BlueEaglegenfoo: Are you sure your gfx driver allows for overlay?04:22
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kjmheh, I need that bot in my office.04:22
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verbosegenfoo: can you see other stuff on the tv04:22
genfooyea04:23
genfoo*yes04:23
verbosebut when you start to play the movie it stops?04:23
natural20i'm a complete linux/ubuntu/programming neophite - is there anyone who can help me install java and/or VASSAL on breezy?04:23
genfooeverything is just right but I cannot play movies04:23
genfooI've tried numerous programs04:23
genfooI got the codecs04:23
genfooI got sound too04:23
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swarmmy movies play perfectly =D04:23
ali1234genfoo: try a different output driver? what program are you using?04:23
BlueEaglegenfoo: Are you sure you've got the right video channel tuned then?04:23
genfoo:(04:23
zarstarguys04:23
genfooI can see what I am typing right now on my TV04:23
zarstari've the key04:24
genfooeverything is OK but the movie area itself04:24
swarmvik, any tips on how to download using torrent faster?04:24
BlueEagleubotu: tell natural20 about java04:24
zarstari've been searching for a new dns, I tried04:24
_xepherum... why is xepher here04:24
_xepherand why do we have the same info04:24
ali1234genfoo: for example, in mplayer... mplayer -vo x11 - will use software playback04:24
BlueEaglenatural20: I hope the /msg from ubotu can help.04:24
zarstar212.216.112.112.... and it works!04:24
zarstarnow I can go to sleep!04:24
vikswarm: huh?04:24
Sidnatural20: hold on04:24
Warbo_xepher: Did you disconnect suddenly?04:24
natural20blueeagle: do i have to type !java?04:24
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genfooalil234 thanks but I also have another minor problemo ---- mplayer has no installation candidate.... what's up what that04:25
_xepherwarbo: must be it04:25
ubuntuhi guys04:25
ubuntuwhats up?04:25
BlueEaglenatural20: ubotu sould have sendt you that message.04:25
swarmvik, got any ideas on how to make torrent download faster? :)04:25
Sidah04:25
BlueEagle!java04:25
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:25
genfoouse swarming04:25
genfoo:P04:25
Sidn/m04:25
bruenigswarm, more seeds04:25
swarmbleh :P04:25
ubuntuswarm:  faster connection, look for seeds :)04:25
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swarmyeah, i got that taken care of04:25
swarm10mbps04:25
ali1234genfoo: no idea... you can change output driver with vlc also... dunno the command line for it though04:25
ubuntunice :D04:25
Warbo_xepher: use "/msg nickserv recover name password" and "/msg nickserv release nam password" (I forget which order though)04:25
swarm300 seeds, but it's only going 59k/sec04:25
ubuntuhow much fast more u want :O04:25
genfoook I got vlc thanks04:25
ubuntudamn it dude i'm on 10kvps04:25
ubuntu:P04:25
vikswarm: heh - never been a problem for me. Stuck on 512kbps :(04:26
ubuntubtw hi swarm  :)04:26
_xepherWarbo: there we go, thx04:26
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genfooaah fubar I'm going to compile mplayer from source >:|04:26
naafoobar!04:26
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weirdoanybody tried installing compiz-vanilla?04:27
swarmhi ubuntu :)04:27
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Warbofubar=feed up beyond apparent repair04:27
ubuntuwierdo not me sir :(04:27
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Warbo(feed up should be effed)04:27
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ali1234genfoo: probably you need to add some repository to get mplayer installed... also i have a dim memry that the package is not called "mplayer" but "mplayer-somethingorother" so ry searching it in synaptic, if you havn't04:27
weirdogot broken packages.. grrr how to fix?04:27
noodlewhen is xorg going to be fixed :(04:27
naafoobar=music player for windows04:27
ubuntui just tried installing gentoo04:27
Xnixwhat package do i reconfigure to have it reconfigure Xorg for me?04:27
ubuntudang that OS i 1 pain in the (_|_)04:27
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weirdoi tried using fix function in synaptics.. but nothing04:28
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swarmXnix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:28
naaheh ubuntu04:28
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naamore like04:28
Xnixswarm thanks :)04:28
genfooalil234 I know I also can't do that thing youre thinking of I know what you mean04:28
naa<ubuntu> i just tried typing up gentoo04:28
swarmnp04:28
bruenig!no > bruenig04:28
genfooalil234 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html04:28
genfooits not working either04:28
ubuntuit took my partitions away, all data bye bye04:28
ubuntu:((04:28
vikoh well eth1 it is04:28
DrBanzaiCan anybody help me troubleshoot my serial ports, please?04:28
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compguy1011i have an imac and use osx for my normal stuff, and have a dual boot of windows for gaming, ive been into linux before but never stayed with it, how is it thies days?04:28
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genfooalil234 its the GPG keys I think04:28
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ali1234vik: you can rename it with ifrename, if you really have to...04:28
ubuntucompguy1011: go for it04:29
wnoiseDrBanzai> I can give it a try;  what's the issue?04:29
bruenigcompguy1011, great as always04:29
vikDrBanzai you'll need to be more specific04:29
ali1234or did i dream that?04:29
ubuntunew OS r more friendly and kool04:29
vikali1234: no real issue running as eth1.04:29
genfoouhh04:29
bruenigbit more user friendly if that's the kind of thing you go for04:29
genfoomkay04:29
vikali1234: just curious why04:29
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ali1234vik: module alias perhaps?04:29
xxpor2omg why wont gaim stop flashing04:29
vikali1234: when it was running normally before I re-installed04:29
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ali1234vik: look in /etc at all the files relating to modules, modprobe etc04:30
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ubuntuxxpor2:  cause u have enabled it in options ;)04:30
vikali1234: and now 2 of the 3 NICs I've tried no longer work, when they did before.04:30
DrBanzaiWell, wnoise and vik, I'm trying to connect to my homebrew MP3 player.  It does not need a null modem adaptor.  It works fine under hyperterminal.  I can't get it to do anything under minicom or gtkterm.  It's a regular serial terminal connection...04:30
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Pf123bGuys, need help with wireless networking:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406953...I have to go now, pelase post in there, if you have any ideas.04:30
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ubuntuwhere is uboto :)04:30
vikali1234: the things is I never touched any module settings before, and it just worked. now it doesn't just work04:31
ubuntuubotu: hi :)04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
bruenig!ubotu04:31
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:31
ubuntuhaha04:31
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ubuntuman he is a funny helping bots04:31
ali1234vik: maybe they need firmware or something? i don't know much about pcmcia...04:31
compguy1011ubuntu, so, where will my advantages and disadvantages be in using ubuntu over os x04:31
cmatheso1i have a laptop, but whenever i try to run memtest86 or ubuntu (or windows), it crashes a little way in... the computer just restarts.  any idea what could be happening (it doesn't seem to be related to cpu temp.)04:31
bruenigcompguy1011, the doc menu gives you cancer04:31
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bruenigdock*04:31
compguy1011??04:32
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compguy1011how so? lol04:32
ubuntucompguy1011: well it is secure.   gr9 tools and lots of them , lot of man /help out there04:32
bruenigis that what it is called, I believe so04:32
ubuntu:)04:32
compguy1011ya, dock04:32
compguy1011its not that bad, lol04:32
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vikali1234: just don't get why it worked then (on a 5.10 system) but not now on 6.06. But I can't really be bothered with it now.04:32
ali1234compguy1011: with ubuntu you will never never miss the menu by a few pixels, loose focus of the curent app, and spend 10 minutes trying to figure out where the "file" menu went04:32
ubuntui got a ?04:33
ubuntuany1 also tried other different managers for ubuntu04:33
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swarm52 kb/sec - weak.04:33
ubuntulike i have xfce404:33
vikDrBanzai: I'm assuming you have the baud rate, bits, parity, etc set correctly?04:33
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compguy1011ubuntu, so whats the latest version of ubuntu now?04:33
DrBanzaivik, Yes, I do04:33
DrBanzaicompguy1011, 6.0604:33
ubuntucompguy1011: Ver 6.06 TLS i think :)04:33
bruenigcompguy1011, you should look at some screenshots of dreamlinux. Looks just like OSX, http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html04:34
natural20sid: you got something for me?04:34
compguy1011what is the code name for it04:34
ubuntudapper04:34
DrBanzaicompguy1011, Dapper Drake04:34
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swarmanyone here use xgl/compix with ati x300?04:34
compguy1011ah, not beta anymore04:34
swarmcompiz04:34
ubuntuno beta :)04:34
vikIsn't it 6.06.1?04:34
compguy1011i liked that screen flip deal04:34
ubuntufull fledged os :)04:34
Sidnatural20: I was going to, but it looks like someone else beat me to it. That is, if you have no more questions; otherwise I'm happy to help.04:34
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bruenig6.06.1 has all the updates. so you want have to download 190+ MB of updates04:35
shawnr_Is there a way to use wget to query HTML code from a url from inside a bash script?04:35
vikDrBanzai - does the serial port work under linux with any other serial devices?04:35
ubuntushawnr_: yes sir04:35
shawnr_yay ;p04:35
shawnr_how ?04:35
ali1234shawnr_: wget | grep ... etc04:35
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shawnr_htm04:35
shawnr_hrm*04:35
DrBanzaivik, Well, it did work with a modem04:36
shawnr_can a string var in bash hold that much data?04:36
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ubuntuit should04:36
ubuntuworth a hot ;)04:36
ubuntushot*04:36
ali1234shawnr_: string var? pipe it...04:36
Anubuntuuseful people, can anyone here help me with installing halflife 2 episode 1 in cedega (I am using Ubuntu)04:36
vikDrBanzai, so if you plug the modem in, open minicom on the port, and type 'AT' does it respond 'OK' ?04:36
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shawnr_I want to get the etire page in a string and then parse it for youtube links04:37
shawnr_;p04:37
DrBanzaivik, Lemme try04:37
ubuntuit can be done , use pipes04:37
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_azrael__Anubuntu: Even if you're running ubuntu, the people who sold you cedega are probably going to know more, just as a warning.04:37
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melymplayer04:38
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Anubuntu_azrael__, nevermind I found the cedega irc channel04:38
ubuntuhaha04:38
ali1234shawnr_: wget -O - http://whatever/ | grep 'pattern that matches the links'04:38
compguy1011DrBanzai, if i install ubuntu, i should get the x86 version right? anyone here install ubuntu on an intel mac?04:38
SidAnubuntu: assuming you have the latest engine patch, Cedega should have pre-defined settings for Half-Life 2 (and its ilk)04:38
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shawnr_hrm k04:38
oemhello all04:38
shawnr_thanks04:38
oem?04:38
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DrBanzaicompguy1011, Well, yeah, if you have an x86 CPU...I'm thinking there are tricks you need to do to get it on the intel mac though04:39
ubuntuwell later guys ,bbl04:39
ubuntutc all and god bless :)04:39
oemHow can I change my screen resulution in Gnome? right now it is set at 1024X768 where I wnat it to be atleast 1280X76804:39
compguy1011any rooms that deal with that that u know of?04:39
brueniggod bless, hmm offensive04:40
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ubuntuoffensive?04:40
ubuntuy is that/04:40
bruenigindeed04:40
ali1234oem: system->preferences->screen resolution04:40
wizardanyone has that xorg-server problem?04:40
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DrBanzaivik, No, nothing, and the lights on the modem don't blink either04:40
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bruenigit is pretty obvious, no need to fill the room up with offtopic stuff though04:40
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DrBanzaicompguy1011, try #mac04:40
ubuntubruenig:  huh ?04:40
ubuntuwhatever dude :p04:41
Dev05wizard, I thought you had already solved it... Didn't you?04:41
natural20i can't upgrade from breezy (NVIDIA driver problem with dapper), anyone know how i can install firefox 1.5?  the stuff i've found online doesn't help - i don't know how to implement it.04:41
bruenigdarwin bless bye04:41
ejay69how can i allow dial up user access their mail on my server?04:41
vikDrBanzai : Hmmm... you got a stock kernel or rolled your own?04:41
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DrBanzaivik, Well, it's the 686 kernel04:41
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wizardyes  i did, but was curious if anyone had side effects04:41
adammichaelroachgreetings, I just did an update and there was one update: the xserver-xorg-core, after installation i restarted and now my x server is dead telling me there are no screens found04:41
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shawnr_ali1234, wget -O - http://www.google.com/index.html | grep http://www.google.com/intl/    -   doesn't work04:41
bruenig!xorgbugfix04:41
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb04:41
bruenigdo that04:41
ejay69how can i allow dial-up users access (receive/send) emails on my ubuntu server?04:41
Dev05natural20, As far as I know, that version of Firefox won't run on Breezy.04:41
vikDrBanzai: check the config to see if serial support is enabled/modularised and the module is loaded04:41
DrBanzaivik, No, I'm sorry, it's the k7 kernel...I have too many computers...04:41
oemI went there, but there is now where to change that. All I have there is the listing of the chosen one by the system which is: 800 X 600, 1024 X 768. I cannot change it from there.04:42
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vikDrBanzai: I hear ya...04:42
wizardgetting mltiple esd's and sluggish performance04:42
DrBanzaivik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules04:42
Dev05oem, If you know what you're doing, I guess you can change your resolutions directly from xorg.conf...04:42
ejay69wow... can i really get help here?04:43
ali1234shawnr_: cos that string isn't contained on the page...04:43
kitcheejay69: do you mean direct dial or no04:43
ejay69anyone to talk to about ubuntu server here?04:43
vikless /boot/config-KERNELVERSION and look for SERIAL04:43
bruenig!patience > ejay6904:43
shawnr_ali1234, its the begining of a link on the page04:43
baconbacon#ubuntu-server04:43
xepherejay69: /join #ubuntu-server04:43
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kitcheejay69: hello guess you won't anwser me then I won't anwser you04:44
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oemDevof: what commant should I type to get to xorg.config. I'm new to linux04:44
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ejay69yeah dial up via modems04:44
ejay69can i message you kitchie?04:44
ali1234shawnr_: sure it's not a relative link? in which cse the whole thing wont be in the html04:44
bruenigoem, if you are new to linux directly editing xorg.conf is probably not a good idea04:44
kitcheejay69: you would set up ppp up04:44
bruenigoem, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would likely be a better option for you04:44
ejay69ppp server?04:45
Dev05oem, I got late here, so, tell me exactly what you need. As bruenig said, if your new and you're not really sure of what you'll be doing, well...04:45
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natural20Dev05: i've found some webpages that describe a process, for installing FF1.5 on breezy, but I'm too ignorant of unix/linux to use the info.04:45
ali1234shawnr_: i just checked, and it is. try grep 'intl'04:45
ejay69can i msg you kitchie?04:45
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kitcheejay69 sure04:45
bruenignatural20, why no update to dapper?04:45
Dev05natural20, Which pages have you found?04:45
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bruenignatural20, you should be able to just download whatever they have on the firefox website. Extract it to /opt and run it from there. I believe firefox distributes frozen binaries. Not sure though. Been a long time since I haven't gotten firefox from apt-get04:46
VEhellow i'm having problems getting 5.1 sound working in dapper04:46
bruenignot frozen binaries. precompiles binaries04:46
bruenigprecompiled*04:47
tyler_dwhat program will open .eml attachments, evolution unexpectedly closes when I try it ???04:47
adammichaelroachbruenig, thanks for the help04:47
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VEmy sound card is turtle beach montego04:47
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ArtimusI've got my soundcard modules loaded, but the /dev device nodes aren't created.  Is there a command I can run to have them automatically created (like they should be)?04:47
oemWhen I use KDE I can go to screen resulution and change it to 1280 X 768 but in GNOME you do not have that option except the one that display there04:47
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oemI want to change the screen resolution from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 76804:48
ejay69i am planning to set up a mail server for our network04:48
ejay69<ejay69> my problem is that the boss wants to dialup to another ISP and then access her mailboxes via eudora on my server04:48
ejay69<ejay69> would that be possible?04:48
ejay69opps04:48
oemYou know what let me install Kubuntu then I will do it from there04:48
ejay69sorry folks04:48
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Dev05oem, So it works perfectly on KDE?04:48
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bruenigoem, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Accept defaults until you get to screen resolution part. Arrow down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it, then finish out selecting defaults. After that it should be an option in the screen resolution dialog from system>preferences>screen resolution in theory04:49
shawnr_ali1234, ok i got it...04:49
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AWOSDevHello!04:50
AWOSDevI'm new to Ubuntu, but not to Linux.04:50
niallwhat pro do i need to browse the content of my mobile for ubuntu04:50
bruenigAWOSDev, what do you need help with04:50
AWOSDevWireless04:50
AWOSDevI haven't done Wireless LANs with Linux04:50
shawnr_ali1234, now.. one more thing.. is it possible to get the ouptut into a string variable if i use this inside a bash script?04:50
bruenig!wireless04:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:51
tyler_danyone know how to open and view a .eml attachment04:51
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tyler_d??04:51
ali1234shawnr_: yes, like this: VARFOO = `wget...`04:51
shawnr_hrm... k thanks!04:51
niallanyone know what programs/drivers i need for my mobile phont which connects via usb cable to comp for ubuntu04:51
niall*phone04:52
rikainiall, be patient.04:52
ali1234shawnr_: but you should be able to do it without variables... probably using sed04:52
AWOSDevbruenig, thank you.04:52
rikainiall, what mobile do you have?04:52
Windcan i play CS with ubuntu04:52
ali1234niall: what kind of phone?04:52
niallsamsung04:52
Windnormal cs04:52
rikainiall, model?04:52
bruenigtyler_d, try downloading it to your machine and then opening it with an email client like evolution or thunderbird04:52
shawnr_ali1234, what im going for is getting that grep output, stripping it down to just the links, then access the links one at a time... i guess putting them into an array first04:53
niall<rikai> 1 sec,04:53
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bruenigas in right click on it and hit open with thunderbird or whatever client you use04:53
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niall<rikai> sgh-e33004:53
ali1234shawnr_: you can pass the whole list of links back into wget without much parsing... don't need to do it 1 at a time04:53
ardchoilleIs there something like Coppermine photo gallery in the repos?04:53
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kitchetyler_d it could be that you need a unarchiver04:54
VEHello, i'm having problems getting my turtle beach motego to output 5.1 sounds. I CAN get 4 of the channels and the sub to work, but i cant get the center channel to give out sound. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong and/or could anyone provide me some help04:54
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AWOSDevI read the wireless documentation online and it still isn't working.04:54
oemThanks guys04:54
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leboffis it possible to add debian repositories to ubuntu apt?04:54
shawnr_ali1234, the problem is that its giving me some html code along with it.. not just a clean list of links04:54
_tccAWOSDev, join the club =)04:54
ardchoilleleboff: It's not recommended04:54
ali1234shawnr_: wget will ignore that... it's designed to spider pages anyway04:54
leboffardchoilee: why not?04:54
bruenigleboff, I believe so. Just edit your sources.list. However repos with the same packages might not be a good idea04:55
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ardchoilleleboff: Because it';s not good to use debian packages on Ubuntu04:55
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AWOSDevSo what am I supposed to do?04:55
leboffah, ok, thanks.04:55
shawnr_ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)04:55
bruenigAWOSDev, that is all I got. Re ask your question, somebody else might know04:55
AWOSDevIt's a Linksys WPC54G v3.  Ubuntu detected it as a Broadcom 4318.04:56
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AWOSDevIt says "Access Point: Invalid" and I can't find anywhere that I'm supposed to put the MAC address into04:56
Anon6638so i made the mistake of updating xorg, now i can't start x server when i reboot04:56
cafuegoAWOSDev: Load the firmware package; disbale ndiswrapper, reboot.04:56
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_tccIs wireless functionality going to be completely redone?04:56
cafuegoAWOSDev: You need to run 'sudo iwconfig ethX ap any'04:56
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rikainiall, sorry, dont know.04:57
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kitcheyeah witht he broadcom chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper anymore04:57
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Anon6638"No devices detected\nFatal server error: no screens found"04:57
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rikaiVE, i've got your blue. :<04:57
AWOSDevcafuego: Error for wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) : SET failed on device eth1; No such device.04:57
bruenig!xorgbugfix Anon663804:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgbugfix Anon6638 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
bruenig!xorgbugfix > Anon663804:57
cafuegoAWOSDev: Do you have the firmware?04:58
DrBanzaivik_, Any ideas?04:58
jdahmdoes ubuntu use udev or devfs by default?04:58
ranunculoid!xorgbugfix > ranunculoid04:58
jdahm(Im too lazy to check)04:58
AWOSDevcafuego, I don't know how to check that.04:58
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Dev05AWOSDev, What is what you need? I've been trying to do wireless for more than three months.04:58
natural20can't up date to dapper because of NVIDIA driver issues.  the following pages are walkthroughs for installing <ff1.5 on breezy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=398484> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion> <http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/upgrading-to-firefox-15-in-ubuntu.html> <http://devhen.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/howto-upgrade-to-firefox-15-on-ubuntu-510-breezy-badger/>  I04:58
natural20'm too ignorant to use these sites effectively - I have almost no knowledge of unix/linux - and what little I do know is confouned by Ubuntu's weird su rules.  Can someone help me install firefox 1.5 on breezy?04:58
cafuegojdahm: udev; devfs was deemed broken a few years ago and never fixed.04:58
shawnr_ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)04:58
leboffbam04:58
ali1234shawnr_: hmm seems like you can't do it04:58
leboffgo it04:58
leboffsudo dpkg -i --force-depends04:59
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AWOSDevDev05, I need to know why it doesn't work in Ubuntu.04:59
sethknatural20, there isn't, really, a weird su rule04:59
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sethknatural20, that's a misconception.04:59
lupine_85ranculoid: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1004:59
ali1234shawnr_: if you can strip the html and produce a file with urls one per line, then you can pip it into 'wget -i -'04:59
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erofeenatural try apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:59
bruenignatrual20, I am not running breezy but it is probably pretty straight forward. Let me get the package first04:59
sethknatural20, what is true is that, in one (and _only_ one) of the install options, the root password is not set04:59
fixIs anyone able to help me set up a wireless USB device for my other computer04:59
ali1234shawnr_: but that breaks if there's html mixed in04:59
Dev05AWOSDev, It doesn't work? What are you trying to do that doesn't work?04:59
sethknatural20, you can set it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu w.r.t. su04:59
AWOSDevWell it wouldn't set the access point, so I unplugged it and plugged it back in.  Now Ubuntu doesn't even know it exists.05:00
lupine_85fix: which card?05:00
sethknatural20, with the nvidia thing (from nvidia's web site) you simply do  ./filename (I forget the exact filename) and it runs the installer05:00
lupine_85or dongle, rather :)05:00
sethknatural20, nothing to it05:00
Dev05AWOSDev, ifconfig05:00
ali1234shawnr_: hang on... wget -F -i - should do it05:00
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AWOSDevI tried to reboot and it just froze05:00
fixLupine, WG111T05:00
AWOSDevSo I'm rebooting the long way :P05:01
fix"Wireless USB Adaptor"05:01
Dev05AWOSDev, What's the output of the ifconfig command?05:01
vik_DrBanzai: sorry, switched computers and lost a bit there. what was the latest?05:01
baconbaconnatural20: i'm pretty sure that if you really need ff1.5 and youre not comfortable with linux yet, you should "install" it to your home dir05:01
bruenignatural20, ok open up a terminal and do cd /opt05:01
DrBanzaivik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules05:01
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bruenigor you can do what baconbacon says05:01
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vik_ah05:01
DrBanzaivik_, You said to make sure that the modules were loaded, and I asked how to do that05:01
sethknatural20, as for firefox, the download from the mozilla.org web site only has to be extracted to some directory05:01
ali1234shawnr_: it may be easiest to do this entirely using wget, check the wget manual page05:01
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bruenignatural20, open up a terminal and cd to where ever you want to install it05:02
baconbaconif someone wants to walk him through, fine, but i'm burned05:02
shawnr_ali1234, did that last one work?05:02
sethknatural20, say you follow baconbacon's advise and make a directory $HOME/firefox05:02
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lupine_85fix: what does lsusb say about the device?05:02
AWOSDevDev05, my laptop is almost done rebooting05:02
natural20breunig: done05:02
sethknatural20, then you extract the files into ~/firefox  (~ == $HOME)05:02
ali1234shawnr_: are you registered? if so /msg me05:02
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sethknatural20, then you run it by typing ~/firefox/firefox05:02
bruenignatural do wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US05:02
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sethknatural20, and you are done05:02
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silver_cpuhi all!05:02
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silver_cpudoes anyone here have any experience with video capture?05:02
silver_cpui'm trying to get my ati tv-wonder pro to work05:03
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Dev05AWOSDev, oh, OK. When you're done you can paste-bin the output so it's easier to read (instead of on the channel).05:03
sethkbruenig, it's a hell of a lot easier to just go there with the browser and click on the link05:03
silver_cputhe video works great, but the audio is nonexistant05:03
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niallhow can i see which usb port my phone is plugged into and how can i detect it05:03
sethkniall, dmesg05:03
BHSPitLappywhoops.05:03
AWOSDevDev05, ifconfig doesn't list my eth1 WLAN card.05:03
genfoowhat are the alsa dev pkgs?05:03
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sethkniall, do dmesg, look at the end of the listing, then turn the phone on, do dmesg again05:03
bruenigsethk, tis but then again, it is pretty damn easy to download it extract it and then double click on the binary that says firefox, he wasn't able to do that05:03
AWOSDevDev05, iwconfig does.  Is that what you want?05:03
Dev05AWOSDev, it should normally be something like ra0.05:03
BHSPitLappywhen I moved, I accidentally copied my home/user/ contents to the new /home05:03
genfoowhat are the alsa dev pkgs?05:03
BHSPitLappyand I can't sudo now to fix it05:03
Dev05AWOSDev, Paste-Bin all the output.05:03
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vik_DrBanzai: if your using one of the ubuntu kernel packages you should be OK05:04
sethkniall, at the end you'll get some additional lines due to the usb device being detected05:04
AWOSDevDev05, Okay.05:04
josiei got a message saying updates were available, so i installed them, and it said it needed to restart. so i restarted, and now i'm getting the error "no devices found" when X tries to start05:04
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nzxhey, what program do i use to edit partitions on kde ?05:04
bruenigit is easier to know what directory he is doing it in so that I don't have to wonder where he chose to download it to. If it is on the desktop or where ever he  might put it05:04
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sethkbruenig, to me, typing firefox is a lot easier than trying to learn a file application just to double click on it.05:04
josieany ideas?05:04
natural20bruening: i get: cannot write to 'firefox setup 1.5.0.6.exe' permission denied.  should i have sudo'ed?05:04
DarkMageZjosie, the new xserver-xorg-core package causes issues for some people05:04
sethkbruenig, that's true05:04
erofeejosie, so X is disabled?05:04
josieDarkMageZ: oh05:04
DrBanzaivik_, I am05:04
sethknatural20, that's not what you want05:04
josieerofee: yes05:04
bimberi!xorgbug05:05
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'05:05
sethknatural20, two problems.05:05
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josiethx05:05
sethknatural20, the first, that's the wrong file, it's an exe and obviously for windows05:05
natural20i am a man nearly reduced to tears.  i just want to check my email.05:05
bruenignatural20, if you are doing it in /opt, which is the purpose of that directory. For just this reason, then you would do sudo. But others seem to think the /opt directory is bad. I defer to them I guess05:05
stiv2khow do i delete stuff off my "Places" menu in GNOME?  there's a whole list of FTP servers on it that dont work anymore05:05
sethknatural20, second you are trying to write it to a directory for which you don't have write privileges05:05
lupine_85 fix: hmm. looks like there's no native linux driver, so it's an ndiswrapper job05:05
niall<sethk> im finding it hard to see the phone or any change "dmesg"05:05
bruenig.exe, the link I gave you was for .tar.gz05:05
Sidnatural20: what's wrong? is it still that java thing?05:05
sethkniall, possibly it isn't being detected05:05
natural20i wish i knew05:05
vik_DrBanzai: does /dev/ttyS0 (or your chosen port) exist?05:05
lupine_85download the latest version of the drivers from Netgear, and the latest version of ndiswrapper from their site, and put them together05:06
lupine_85fingers crossed, it'll work05:06
DrBanzaivik_, Yes, it does05:06
stephanshi, does anyone know how to get 3d accel working on a dell 700m??? I lost this when I swiched to Ubuntu... Gogle Earth is sloooooow.... and chomium too05:06
niall<sethk> is there anthing i can do or is there something missing in the way of a driver05:06
fixi did lupine, it doesn't show up05:06
vik_DrBanzai: any writable by you? (I'm assuming you're using the first serial port?)05:06
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DrBanzaivik_, I wonder if it's a permission thing...05:06
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vik_DrBanzai: that's what I'm just thinking...05:06
vik_DrBanzai: try minicom as root05:07
bimberistiv2k: go to Places -> Network, right-click and 'unmount volume' the unwanted ones05:07
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sethkniall, possibly.  have you used any other usb device with the ubuntu install?05:07
vik_DrBanzai: or rather sudo05:07
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sethkniall, you may have to load usb kernel modules05:07
silver_cpuanyone here familiar with tv capture?05:07
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bimberistiv2k: Network *Servers*05:07
niall<sethk> yeah it picks up the webcma no sweat05:07
John[1] Hello all05:07
stiv2kbimberi: thanks05:07
DrBanzaivik_, When I do cd /dev, then ls -l ttyS0 I get: crw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-08-21 21:40 ttyS005:07
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niall*webcam05:07
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sethkniall, ok05:07
leboffso my apt now seems to think i have a broken package.. is there anyway to get it to ignore that?05:07
stephansis there a video card configuration tool for ubuntu?05:08
bimberistiv2k: yw :)05:08
skallerHi, I justr installed latest Xcore update, trashed my X can someone help05:08
bruenignatural20, do you still want to install ff 1.5?05:08
sethkniall, then, at an absolute minimum, you should get detection messages from the driver, with dmesg, after connecting the device and turning it on05:08
bruenig!xorgbugfix > skaller05:08
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bimberiubotu tell skaller about xorgbug05:08
natural20bruenig: please05:08
lupine_85fix: have you tried http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/05:08
leboffsilver_cpu .. i've had some attempts.. but my card is too obscure.. what are you lookin for?05:08
lupine_85might succeed05:08
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skallerhang on I tell exact error05:08
fixlupine: let me go look at that thank you05:08
bruenignatural20, ok it is going to have to be in your home directory because they seem to not like it being in /opt and also that helps a lot with permission issues05:09
lupine_85if that doesn't work, then it looks like it's not compatible05:09
silver_cpuleboff: i'm looking to get sound from my ati tv-wonder pro05:09
skallercan't find symbol __glXLastContext05:09
vik_DrBanzai: are you part of the dialout group? Just try 'sudo minicom' and see if that works  firstly05:09
silver_cpuleboff: video comes through really well, but audio doesn't05:09
John[1] Someon willing to help me out with an install isse?05:09
John[1] issue?05:09
DrBanzaivik_, Still nothing, and minicom still says it's offline05:09
skallerin libGLcore.so05:09
natural20bruenig: so replace /opt with /home?05:09
leboff#video4lin05:09
leboffoops05:09
sethkJohn[1] , ask a more specific question and you'll find out05:09
AWOSDevDev05, http://pastebin.com/77296305:09
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vik_DrBanzai: have a look in /var/lock. anything related to ttyS ?05:09
bruenignatural20, natural20, just open up a fresh terminal, you will be in the right directory05:09
silver_cpuleboff: my card uses an interconnect cable to send audio out of the capture card to the sound card's line in, and i've got my sound card's line in up (volume-wise), and the other card's line out up05:09
AWOSDevDev05, since I had to type everything into my desktop, I didn't do lo (I'm pretty sure that lo works :P )05:09
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Dev05AWOSDev, Working on it :)05:10
DrBanzaivik_, Yup05:10
bimberiskaller: you should have a couple of /msg's from ubotu with instructions05:10
silver_cpuleboff: thanks, i'll visit that chan and see what happens05:10
bruenignatural20, do "wget http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US"05:10
skallerk thx lookiung05:10
Dev05AWOSDev, Would you mind doing this through PM? Less noise.05:10
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AWOSDevDev05, yeah how does that work?05:11
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leboffsilver_cpu: its #v4l not video4lin05:11
John[1] Okay, sorry.  I'm trying to install the lamp server per the directions at http://howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.0605:11
DrBanzaivik_, That could be left over from when I had it set up as a dial in server05:11
Dev05AWOSDev, First you have to register. Then you can PM anyone.05:11
sethkJohn[1] , that's better, but I still haven't seen a question05:11
AWOSDevDev05, register?  I already have with Ubuntu.  I have to register with freenode?05:11
John[1] I'm down to the part where I can install the ubuntu desktop05:11
vik_DrBanzai: dial in?05:11
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Dev05AWOSDev, yeah.05:12
vik_DrBanzai: that process wouldn't still be running would it?05:12
AWOSDevDev05, okay I will now.05:12
Dev05tell AWOSDev about register05:12
DrBanzaivik_, I'm not sure...lemme check05:12
skaller Launchpad is offline at the moment for maintenance. It should be back, better than ever, soon. Thanks for your patience.05:12
skallerwonderful05:12
vik_DrBanzai: kill anything that might be holding the serial port, delete the lock file if its still there, then try minicom again05:12
bruenignatural20, tell me when that finishes05:12
niall<sethk>where normally are usb ports and devices mounted at05:12
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sethkniall, /media/usbXXXXX05:12
vik_Grrrrrrrr. X just died05:13
bimberi!xorgbugfix05:13
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb05:13
bimberiskaller:  ^^^^^05:13
sethkniall, the XXXXX of course varies with the device05:13
AWOSDevDev05, I can't find it on their Web site.  Where is it?05:13
natural20bruenig: finished05:13
Dev05!register05:13
bruenignatural20, do "tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz" this will extract the file05:13
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:13
skallerbimberi and hints in the meantime?05:13
niall<sethk> nop usb devices are listed here05:13
skaller*any05:13
John[1] After I run the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I do not getht desktop.  I endup back at the command prompt.05:13
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AWOSDevDev05, thank you.05:13
sethkniall, there are other names.  my palm comes up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB105:14
dr_willisJohn[1] ,  did it say it installed some stuff?05:14
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sethkniall, so not having devices there doesn't really prove much05:14
bruenignatural20, ok now. How do you want to launch this. An icon on the desktop or in the menus or panel or what?05:14
Xnixare there known issues with sata hard drives during the dapper install?05:14
niall<sethk> k05:14
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sethkniall, the thing is, if the device is created, a dmesg output will show it05:14
RamiKassabhey guys I'm trying to share an internet connection on my laptop to a friend. what's the easiest way to do it in ubuntu? I know firestarter has a good interface for it but I'm using network manager to help manage my wireless card and it disables your other devices when not being used so firestarter says it's unable to activate my eth0 (lan card) on the laptop05:14
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cdci get disconnected from the net in seconds because an other interface gets created automatically by name ppp105:14
bimberiskaller: those commands (from ubotu) will downgrade xserver-xorg-core to the version prior to the update05:15
natural20bruenig: tar: firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:15
natural20tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:15
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DrBanzaivik_, I don't see anything running, except maybe getty, and this is effecting both ttyS0 and S105:15
dr_willisnatural20,  you sure ya got the file name right?05:15
John[1] Wow there is so much going on in here I can't keep up hardley!!!05:15
bruenignatural20, do ls05:15
bruenigtell me what the output is05:15
sethknatural20, do ls -ltr   the most recent file will be the last one listed05:15
Dial_tonesomebody should tie an IED to K-Fed's ass05:15
fixIs anyone experienced in getting internet with the USB Wireless Adaptor: WG111T -- I have tryed everything I could think of which isn't much since I am new with linux. I am trying to get internet on my laptop.05:15
sethknatural20, or ls -ltr | tail -105:15
lupine_85linuxant doesn't work then?05:16
natural20download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.605:16
sethkDial_tone, was that relevant to something?05:16
brueniglol05:16
fixI have no idea where my USB thing is lupine ;\05:16
bruenigit downloaded the html, that is funny05:16
fixCan't find WG111T on there05:16
vik_DrBanzai: so getty's prolly taking the port. (perhaps mgetty?) It is probably respawning if you kill it. have a look in /etc/inittab05:16
IcemanV9John[1] : turn on closed-captioning on ur tv; practices reading, then soon you'll be able to keep up with this room chat ;)05:16
bruenigi guess that link merely refers you to a mirror not the actual file, well I guess it will have to be done graphically05:16
Dial_tonenothing K-fed does is relevant05:16
leboffmy synaptic seems to think theres a broken package (one i installed without it..) is there anyway to get it to ignore that05:17
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bruenignatural20, go to here http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US in a web browser and download firefox. Save it to your username directory if you can05:17
lupine_85if it's not mentioned, it's worth a try. I'd suggest you download and install it along with the most recent windows drivers for your card that you can find05:18
RamiKassabguys, any idea on how to share an internet connection via Firestarted? my lan device is active but Firestarter says the device isn't ready. I have Network Manager installed and Network Manager requires you to comment out the devices from /etc/network/interfaces05:18
skallerbimberi .. i'm on amd64 not x8605:18
lupine_85there is no linux driver, so it's linuxant or ndiswrapper - and you've already tried the latter05:18
natural20bruenig is my username directory home?05:18
DrBanzaivik_, Well, that was set to use ttyS105:18
fixWait linuxant is a program itself?05:18
lupine_85yes05:18
bimberiskaller: oops05:18
fixI have tryed ndiswrapper but I have no idea what I was doing lol,, let me go try to find this linuxant program and see if it works05:19
lupine_85it's like ndiswrapper - lets you use windows network drivers in linux05:19
bruenignatural20, it will be /home/username05:19
fixokay ty05:19
vik_and you've been trying minicom on ttyS0?05:19
bruenignatural20, it should say your username in the download dialog of firefox when you choose to download it05:19
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fixAlso quick question, so I dont have to use up my cd's05:19
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skallerluckily i have 2 machines or I'd be upgrading to Windows :)05:19
fixHow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?05:19
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bimberiskaller: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb05:20
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IcemanV9RamiKassab: see if it does work without firestarter?05:20
doughboyCan anyone tell me how to get samba to share printer on my dapper box to windows laptop?05:20
leboffis it possible to get synaptic to ignore broken packages?05:20
skalleris that a patched .deb?05:20
RamiKassabIcemanV9: see if what works without firestarted? the shared internet connection?05:20
DrBanzaivik_, So, when I look at my processes under top, is getty the one I want to kill?05:20
Dev05!tell doughboy about samba05:20
IcemanV9RamiKassab: yes. shared net connection05:21
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gaspock5ubotu: I <3 u05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
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vik_DrBanzai: well, it will respawn, so there's no point unless you've changed inittab.05:21
RamiKassabIcemanV9: how do you share an internet connection without firestarter? don't you need to edit config files and install a bunch of shit?05:21
DrBanzaivik_, Yeah, I changed inittab05:21
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natural20bruenig: my downloads go to my desktop, home does not have a username folder.05:21
fixow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?05:21
DrBanzaivik_, But is it getty I want to kill, or mgetty?05:22
sethkRamiKassab, yes and no.  you don't need to install "a bunch of ..."   you do need to do a bit of configuration05:22
vik_DrBanzai: but if getty is listening on ttyS1 and you're trying to use ttyS0, then there should be no conflict05:22
ivan`does anyone know of a fan control solution on the old powerbook 867mhz G4s that have a /proc/device-tree/uni-n@f8000000/i2c@f8001000/fan@188 ?05:22
bruenignatural20, just put it in your desktop that is fine. We will move it later05:22
DrBanzaivik_, So it would seem.05:22
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John[1] After I install the dapper server, I run apt-get update.  Then I run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  only I never end up with a desktop at reboot.  Any ideas?05:22
bruenigtell me when it is downloaded05:22
vik_DrBanzai: which is the one in inittab that was set to listen on the serial port? getty or mgetty?05:22
natural20bruenig: i lied, home does have a username folder.  the file is there05:22
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RamiKassabsethk: I had found a guide to help with with that and did it one time but it would work for a while then stop working. I think network manager messes it all up05:22
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bruenignatural20 ok, open up a terminal and do cd05:22
RamiKassabsethk: I had enabled ip forwarding and all that05:22
bruenignatural20, then do tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz05:23
DrBanzaivik_, mgetty, which I do not see listed in top05:23
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jackiehi, somebody can help me with 3d acceleration of nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  ? please. i just install ubuntu 6.06, but have no 3d. :(05:23
bruenig!nvidia05:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:23
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AWOSDevDev05, I'm signed up.  Now how do I PM you?05:24
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bruenignatural20, was that successful or what05:24
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natural20bruenig, the terminal just gave a new command line, that's it05:24
bruenignatural20, perfect05:24
fixIs there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?05:24
bruenignatural20, how do you want to run it. An icon on the desktop. A menu entry or what05:25
skallerok bimberi, thanks, that was a downgrade, it worked .. very confusing because i was making a chroot for Debian sid at the same time05:25
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bruenighow do you want to start firefox when you use it05:25
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cdcHello people could some one help me pls05:25
cdci get disconnected too often from the internet05:25
bruenig!ask05:25
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:25
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bimberiskaller: yw :)05:25
natural20bruenig: icon on the taskbar would be ideal, but i'll take anything.  desktop is fine05:25
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cdcin few seconds i use pppoe to connect to the internet05:25
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bruenigtaskbar? the panel?05:25
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fdsdhey guys, is there any usplash experts in here?05:26
cdcand after i get connected an other new interface by name ppp1 gets created automatically05:26
fix!ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
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cdcand i get disconnected.05:26
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natural20bruenig: to me taskbar = applications, places, system, etc05:26
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skallerbimberi can u explain the problem, will it be fixed?05:26
lupine_85fix - you want something called "ip forwarding"05:26
cdcskaller, is it for me ?05:26
lupine_85trivial to set up05:26
bruenignatural20, ok, go to applications>accessories>alacarte menu editor05:26
skallerbimberi05:26
bimberiskaller: no and yes :)05:26
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livesNboxhey guys -- i got my sprint evdo card working inside of Ubuntu -- is there a way I can share that internet connection via an ad hoc wireless connection to another laptop ?05:26
fixI'm not sure what I want..I am just trying to get internet on my other computer ;\05:26
lupine_85(as long as the PC in the middle is on linux, anyway!)05:27
dindinI just updated xserver-xorg and now X wont' start05:27
cdcskaller, could you help me please?05:27
lupine_85So you've got PC<->PC<->Internet ?05:27
natural20bruenig, i have no alacarte menu editor :( sorry05:27
bruenignatural20, when you get in there click on internet and then do file>new entry05:27
bruenignatural20, oh yeah breezy05:27
skallerbimberi: desktops wants to do the upgrade again, how can I tell when it is safe to do so?05:27
cdclupine_85, its a stand alone PC in my side05:27
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fixyeh lupine05:27
lupine_85dindin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1005:27
bruenigwell, panel or desktop is your choice I guess05:27
cdclupine_85, i use pppoeconf to configure the internet05:27
fixBut only temporarily05:27
natural20desktop is fine05:27
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bruenigright click on the desktop and select create launcher05:28
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skallerbimberi  .. ah .. lauchpad bug report .. ok05:28
lupine_85sorry cdc I don't have any idea re: your program (never used ppp)05:28
bruenigName it whatever you want Firefox 1.5 seems good to me05:28
bimberiskaller: idk for sure sorry, look for it wanting to install a version higher than ......10.305:28
riddleboxis there a way to tell the package updater not to even look at a certain package, I had to recompile ffmpeg with a certain parameter and now ubuntu wants to always update it05:28
DrBanzaivik_, Welp, I got work in the morning.  Thanks for the help...I may just have to wait till I wipe and install dapper05:28
natural20done05:28
cdchas anyone used pppoe on Ubuntu here ?05:28
fixlupine how would I do pc<-->pc<-->Internet ?05:28
cdcI am facing problems with pppoe connection05:28
brueniggive whatever comment you want. The only thing you must do is have the command say ~/firefox/firefox05:28
riddleboxcdc, whats the problem05:29
cdccan some one help me . i get disconnected from the internet in seconds05:29
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haasteem!repositories05:29
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:29
CyberMadwhat is the difference between ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso and ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ? i want install it in my laptop05:29
skallerbimberi: it probably has something to do with X win bindings to closed source GEForce driver05:29
cdcriddlebox, i get disconnected from the internet with in seconds i use pppoeconf to connect to the internet and a new interface by name ppp0 gets created but after few seconds an other interface by name ppp1 gets created05:29
cdcand i get disconnected05:29
bruenignatural20, if you want to icon, click on icon and the path should be /home/username/firefox/icons, of course replace username with your username05:29
bruenigthe icon*05:29
cdcriddlebox, whats that i am missing in the configuration05:30
cdci use pon dsl-provider05:30
cdcto start my connection05:30
lupine_85fix: on the middle (linux) pc, you should run 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'05:30
riddleboxcdc, hrmm I am looking05:30
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SidCyberMad: the dvd version contains both the livecd version AND the standard install version. The desktop version is a liveCD that you can install as well.05:30
bruenigwhen you get all of that sorted out. Hit ok or whatever it is and then that should work05:30
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skallercdc: your password?05:30
cdcriddlebox, when i start downloading something a new interface gets created05:30
fixlupine, should I run that with the computer that has internet or that needs internet?05:30
natural20bruenig: i click on the icon, but i get this error: Failed to execute child process "~firefox/firefox" (no such filre or directory)05:30
cdcskaller, password ? its perfect05:31
CyberMadSid thanks... i will choose the desktop version05:31
lupine_85then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that05:31
SidCyberMad: In other words, you can download either, and get a disc that lets you both run Ubuntu from disc and install it.05:31
lupine_85the one that already has internet05:31
cdcwhen i start downloading something i get disconnected05:31
SidCyberMad: good choice.05:31
lupine_85the setting will be wiped every time you reboot05:31
bruenignatural20, you have to use ~/firefox/firefox, the / is important after the `05:31
bruenig~05:31
fixOkay, after that what would I do?05:31
skallerwhen you download with firefox?05:31
dindinlupine_85: Thanks!05:31
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lupine_85[04:31]  <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that05:31
lupine_85dindin: that was @fix05:32
natural20bruenig my command is this:  ~/firefox/firefox05:32
riddleboxcdc, straight from google, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138.html05:32
bruenigyes05:32
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bruenigdoes that error. It might05:32
fixHow do i configure the 2 pc's to talk to each other through oneinterface?05:32
skallercdc: I think i know what is happening: some stupid program is trying to make a connection automatically05:32
natural20bruenig: error still05:32
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skallerand it is killing the old connection05:32
bruenigif it does error. You need to do /home/username/firefox/firefox, replace username with your own05:32
lupine_85just give them an IP in the same range05:32
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bruenigthat is the command05:32
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fixWhat is the command to give them both the same IP in the same range?05:33
KeithWeisshari just bought a WD MyBook drive, when I boot into linux the drive locks up and linux won't recognize the drive05:33
KeithWeissharwhen I reboot I get the error device descriptor read/64, error -11005:33
bruenigthis /home/username/firefox/firefox is the command05:33
k1ll3rr3danyone have experience with hula email?05:33
lupine_85ok, run 'ifconfig ethX <ip address>' on each computer05:33
McJerrylupine_85 I've been able to get a linksys wpc54gs working with ndiswrapper under ubuntu and it will negotiate an ip addy via dhcp with any essid without security05:33
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cdcriddlebox, ok one more question when i do make it says command not found which package should i install . I have installed automake05:33
McJerryhow can i get it to negotiate with an essid using wpa05:33
fixip address would be? 192.168.0.1 or something?05:33
KeithWeissharwhy does the drive lock up when initializing the usb mass storage driver05:34
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haasteemwhere do i find the hoary repositories?05:34
brandon123What is the command to install updates for ubuntu?05:34
bruenig!hoary05:34
ubotuhoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"05:34
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natural20bruenig: nothing happens with new command line05:34
cdci am unable to compile using make command.05:34
riddleboxcdc, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:34
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UpMarchi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?05:34
lupine_85fix: yes :). Choose something in a different range to your current ip address (e.g. say your middle PC has got 192.168.0.11 to talk to the router, use 192.168.1.1 to talk to the end PC)05:34
bruenignatural20, put that in the command part of the launcher not in the command line05:35
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bruenigand make sure you replace username with your username05:35
haasteembruenig: they're not there... ;)05:35
fixand this will resset on startup?05:35
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brandon123What is the command to install updates for ubuntu, anyone?05:35
mike654can i go from 64 bit to 32 bit without using the cd?05:35
bruenighaasteem, aren't they though05:35
dibblegoon installing I try to repartition my disk alongside windows but after partitioning occurs, the partition table doesn't look as if it has changed05:35
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dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get update05:35
bruenigwhy are you using hoary. Might as well get amiga going05:35
natural20bruening: yes, comand text feild of launcher, yes, baumbuffi instead of username05:35
lupine_85in addition, you'll need to run 'ifconfig ethX netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast <ip-but-ending-with.255>'05:35
dr_willisdibblego,  what are ya parttining them with?05:35
lupine_85fix: yes05:35
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brandon123dibblego i did that but that does not install the updates05:36
bruenignatural20, put that command in the command line now and see if it works05:36
bruenigin the terminal rather05:36
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bruenigput it in the terminal05:36
dibblegodr_willis, the installer thing that partitions them (forget the name and I'm not at the machine at this very point in time)05:36
dibblegobrandon123, which updates?05:36
McJerrybrandon123 in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:36
haasteem!upgrade05:36
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.05:36
lupine_85on the end pc, you'll also need to run 'ip route add default via <middle-pc-ip-address> dev ethX'05:36
dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get dist-update05:36
lupine_85all as root/sudo, of course05:36
mike654can i go from 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu without using a 32-bit CD?05:36
dibblegoer wait05:37
dibblegobrandon123, sudo apt-get upgrade (sorry)05:37
dr_willisdibblego,  some times a reboot is needed so the system can see the  changes05:37
bruenigmik654, I will say it is unlikely05:37
brandon123dibblego: thanx05:37
UpMarchi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?05:37
mike654yeah thought so, but worth asking05:37
haasteembruenig: there is a hoaryupgradenotes wiki05:37
JoseStefanany known issues with the latest xserver update on 6.06?05:37
fixi kind of forgot the commands so could you say them again in a private chat because all this talking is hard to comprehend05:37
natural20bruening: /home/baumbuffi/firefox/firefox does not work, nothing happens05:37
fixBTW, i really appreciate your jelp05:37
fixhelp*05:37
bruenigUpMarc, wine is not really that kind of application05:37
dibblegodr_willis, ok I'll try it05:37
McJerryanyone here using a linksys wpc54gs pcmcia wifi card?05:37
cdcriddlebox, i think i found it05:37
lupine_85 McJerry: well done :).05:38
bruenignatural 20 do "cd ~/firefox && ./firefox"05:38
haasteembruenig: i guess they must be that... at least they are not the ones in the /etc/apt/sources.list that comes with the hoary cd05:38
cdcriddlebox, initially the dsl-provider file had these 2 uncommented lines05:38
cdc#lcp-echo-interval 3005:38
cdc#lcp-echo-failure 405:38
lupine_85I'm not registered so I can't do /msg05:38
cdcbut now i ve commented out these05:38
fixoh05:38
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sethkbruenig, might be worthwhile to teach him tab completion.  that way at least whatever he types exists05:38
lupine_85tell you what, join #ubuntu-lupine05:38
cdcwill this solve the problem? i think it has but not very sure05:38
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fixokay thank you lupine05:38
dr_willisUpMarc,  normally ya download the program ya want to install. install wine, then do a 'wine installer.exe' and it 'should' put an icon in  the menus for the installed program.05:38
McJerrylupine_85, i still have an issue I need some direction with05:38
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natural20bruenig: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:39
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sethknatural20, bruenig ok, that answers that.  he needs libstdc++.so.505:39
UpMarcdr_willis: Wine is installed but not in the applications menu...05:39
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McJerrylinksys wpc54gs card negotiates link with any unsecured essid but i cannot negotiate link to my essid using wpa encryption.  Suggestions??05:39
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dr_willisUpMarc,  thats because you dont normally run just 'wine' you use 'wine windowsbinary.exe'05:40
John[1] what is the command to get the updated repositorys05:40
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JoseStefanAny known issues with the latest xserver-xorg update on dapper?05:40
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UpMarcbruenig: someone told me it would work like Window Movie Maker05:40
jackie!nvidia05:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:40
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bruenigUpMarc, what are you trying to do with wine05:40
DarkMageZJoseStefan, besides it breaking xorg, nope05:40
stephans3d accel doesn not work in intel 810 cards05:40
bruenig!Info libstdc++505:40
ubotuPackage libstdc5 does not exist in dapper05:40
sethkbruenig, I'll get the package name05:41
UpMarcbruenig: wanna run .wmv files and edit them05:41
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DarkMageZJoseStefan, i'd downgrading, or not upgrading05:41
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bruenigUpMarc, what application are you going to use to do that05:41
billytwowillyhey, is the macbook officially supported by ubuntu?05:41
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sethkbruenig, in breezy it's libstdc++505:41
dr_willisUpMarc,  you dont 'run' wmv's they are video files - that MAY be viewable in vlc, xine, mplayer, or totem.05:41
sethkbruenig, :)05:41
bruenigsethk05:41
dr_willisUpMarc,  some wmv's may not be viewable at all - it depends on the wmv codecs05:42
cdclet me check again05:42
UpMarcdr_willis: none of those read .wmv files :-(05:42
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sethkbruenig, there is also libstdc++5-3.3-dbg and libstdc++5-3.3-dev in breezy05:42
JoseStefanDarkMageZ, i find it very weird that an update can break so many setups05:42
chuckso uh, do I just like, ask a question?05:42
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dr_willisUpMarc,  they can IF the wmv codec is one they can handle.05:42
Sidchuck: indeed05:42
McJerrychuck, yes05:42
sethkbruenig, but I'm not sure those contains actual libraries05:42
UpMarcdr_willis: but where can I get codec for them?05:42
bruenigalright natural20, I hope this firefox is worth it. Try sudo apt-get install libstdc++505:42
dr_willis!w32codecs05:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:42
DarkMageZJoseStefan, me to, i can't believe such a bad package made it to the main repos...05:42
bruenigdev likely does not05:42
dr_willisUpMarc,  ya just asked a FAQ! :P05:42
Anubuntuhello, how do I mount an external usb harddrive via ubuntu?05:42
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wolfmanzwhats the command to list the drives connected to a computer?05:43
SidAnubuntu: you mean, it doesn't do it automatically for ya?05:43
Anubuntuwell05:43
Anubuntuits plugged in05:43
Anubuntunothings showing up in places05:43
dr_williswolfmanz,  'sudo fdisk -l' is one i use05:43
sethkbruenig, -dbg has the libraries05:43
Anubuntuit shows up in the device manager05:43
Anubuntubut no where else05:43
bruenignatural20, are you still there05:43
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Sidhmm05:43
sethkbruenig, -dev does also, in a gcc-lib directory05:44
natural20bruenig, yes, it is doing stuff05:44
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chuckawesome... so I was trying to get that fancy 3ddesktop thingy to work, and discovered I needed glx(?) which needs dri(?) ... then I read that dri isn't supported on my sis m760gx card, so is my situation hopeless?05:44
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bruenigas long as I don't have to do any path specifying, I will happy05:44
wweasel!ntfs05:44
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:44
danieleboyoi have a probelm with a partiton auto disabling itself after reboot05:44
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redsoxfan90can some1 pm me and help me?05:44
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natural20bruening: it appears to have worked05:44
sethkredsoxfan90, why not ask your question here?05:44
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bruenigredsox fan what do you need, you probably have a better chance will 78405:45
SidAnubuntu: sadly, this is where my expertise ends.05:45
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bruenignatural 20 retry that command I gave you earlier05:45
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bruenigthe one that ended ./firefox05:45
UpMarcok thank you all anyway05:45
natural20bruenig: YES!05:45
natural20YES YES YES05:45
JoseStefanDarkMageZ, I wonder if the package has missing dependencies, or a broken dependency tree05:45
bruenignatural20, redo that launcher thing and put that command in it05:45
Sidchuck: your sis card... 2D or 3D?05:45
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danieleboyoanyone willing to help me with an autodisabling partition?05:46
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natural20i had no need to do anything to the launcher05:46
rixthYo. How do I setup software raid?05:46
DarkMageZJoseStefan, possible, but that's for the maintainers to sort out :)05:46
chuckhmm... I don't know, how do I find out?05:46
lupine_85wpa_supplicant05:46
PlutarchYo, I don't know.05:46
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lupine_85!wpa_supplicant05:46
ubotuwpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB05:46
PlutarchHey Yo, what do you know?  Our flowers won't grow.05:46
bruenignatural20, you mean you just clicked the launcher and it worked?05:46
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natural20bruenig, correct05:46
bruenignatural20, ok well it should have worked originally but the library got in the way05:46
bruenigok well good then05:46
wweasel!fat3205:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:46
bruenigI am off to bed05:47
natural20bruenig, thank you so much05:47
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natural20sethk, thank you too05:47
danieleboyoany ideas? auto disabling partition after reboot05:47
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Sidchuck: at this point, it looks to me like you card's 3D capabilities may or may not be installed/supported under Ubuntu.05:47
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sethkdanieleboyo, usually you need to run fsck, possibly with non-standard arguments or y interactive answers, to fix the partition05:48
Sidchuck: heh, you wouldn't happen to know someone called himeka?05:48
danieleboyosethk: could you elaborate a bit more please?05:48
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lupine_85did you get that McJerry?05:48
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chuckhmm, no, who's himeka?05:49
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sethkdanieleboyo, tell me exactly what is happening05:49
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yurtlehello can somone direct me to a php-nuke channel ?05:49
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brandon123I updated xorg and now i cant get on it :( anyone help?05:49
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weirdoi need help following directions on this forum.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14506805:49
inrelief_hey all, i've got totem with the xine backend and i'm trying to play encrypted dvd's with no luck05:49
weirdoone of their code has a smiley face in it..05:49
lupine_85brandon123: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1005:49
Sidchuck: someone I know who shares your e-mail domain. Alas.05:50
weirdosearch for #video.driver:auto05:50
danieleboyosethk: what happens is that i have a partition that starts disabled and i am able to enable it, but upon reboot, its is disabled again05:50
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weirdowhat should have been in place of the smiley face?05:50
brandon123lupine_85 thankyou very much05:50
lupine_85np05:50
sethkdanieleboyo, how do you enable it?05:50
sethkdanieleboyo, and what do you mean exactly by disabled?05:50
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JoseStefanlupine_85, i just used the "/dapper" method, seems more standard-ish05:50
Sidchuck: but yeah, I'm trying to look up your card right now05:51
Sidchuck: is it a laptop that uses your card?05:51
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danieleboyoit no longer is a mounted, and i enable it by going to the default disk editor that comes with dapper05:51
wolfmanzdr_willis: thanks for that info.05:51
sethkdanieleboyo, I suspect that the file system isn't clean, and during the boot process it is not mounted for that reason05:52
chuckyeah, one of those darn acers05:52
dr_williswolfmanz,  linux FUNdamentals05:52
sethkdanieleboyo, run dmesg, and see if there are any messages about something not mounted05:52
chuckwhat does my e-mail domain show up as?05:52
sethkdanieleboyo, the message might also be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog05:52
weirdoanyone wanna check for me?05:52
rukuarticCan anyone point me to an indepth/comprehensive guide on filepermissions? Or even better--if a few people could just sit and talk with me a moment through prvmsgs, that would be awesome.05:52
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sethkdanieleboyo, if you don't find anything, with the partition not mounted, run fsck.xxxx (fsck.ext3, fsck.ext2, whichever one first the partition's file system)05:53
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sethkdanieleboyo, see if it asks you whether or not to fix things.05:53
Sidchuck: sympatico.ca05:53
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danieleboyosethk: umm dmesg is really long05:53
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dr_willisrukuartic,  theres a great many beginner linxu guides out there ya should read/bookmark. (google for them) and check out the tldp.org site and its guides05:53
ad0leman, really messed up my sound... added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?05:53
sethkdanieleboyo, try something like   dmesg | grep -i mount05:53
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Sidchuck: and chuck, yeah... I don't know whether or not your SIS card has drivers in Ubuntu. And, naturally, the 3D desktop requires 3D drivers, I'm afraid.05:54
tonyyarussorukuartic: The man pages for chmod and chown will also be helpful.05:54
gxmamealgum aki poderia me ajudar :)05:55
sethk!es05:55
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:55
sethkit's not exactly spanish, but that's as close as I could come  :)05:55
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JoseStefanif they fix the xserver-xorg-core problem, Where would be the 1st place to know ?05:55
sethkis that port?05:55
tonyyarussosethk: I think it's Portugese...05:55
tonyyarusso!pt05:55
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:55
chuckhmm, what's aiglx?  it seems to have a set of dri kernel modules05:55
sethktonyyarusso, right05:55
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danieleboyosethk: itsays... Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rwauto" or missing value05:56
sethkdanieleboyo, ok05:56
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sethkdanieleboyo, I think it is supposed to be errors=remount,rwauto05:56
sethklet me check05:56
rukuartictonyyarusso: Well... actually I've been looking. I've read a few articles, but I'm having a tad of trouble. For example, I've added a test user (no sshd, don't worry :P) and I'm trying to figure out why when /home/test is rwxr-x--- I can't read it (yes I'm part of the test group)05:57
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sethkdanieleboyo, no,05:57
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sethkdanieleboyo, probably noauto05:57
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bj_Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, change it to errors=remount,noauto05:57
danieleboyoin fstab?05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, but that won't mount it05:57
redsoxfan90were can i paste something05:57
sethkdanieleboyo, yes, in fstab, take out the noauto altogether05:57
rukuarticbj_: so you know, i've had that problem too :P05:58
rukuartic!paste05:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, rwauto isn't a correct option, at least according to the docs05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, possibly it should be errors=remount,rw,auto05:58
bj_rukuartic: did you get it fixed?05:58
tonyyarussorukuartic: Do the files in the folder have matching permissions?  What filesystem?05:58
danieleboyomaybe..05:58
danieleboyoill try them05:58
rukuarticbj_: nope P wish I did...05:58
sethkdanieleboyo, but rw and auto are defaults, so you can take them out05:58
Sidchuck: aiglx is an alternative to xgl; it's basically another 3D desktop deal05:58
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Sidchuck: ( I think)05:58
redsoxfan90http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2136205:58
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redsoxfan90can someone please tell me my problem in there05:59
wweaselDoes anyone here use the thing at www.fs-driver.com to read/write ext3 under windows? Do you know if it has stable write support for ext3?05:59
sexualpotatoeshas ati 3d accel been fixed in 6.06?05:59
rukuartictonyyarusso: ext3 I'm pretty sure. there's only one visible file in the directory, and its 77005:59
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verbosedumb question, but what is the package with the kernel source tree called?05:59
redsoxfan90me?05:59
rummikok, this prolly sounds stupid, but i just updated xorg and it isn't working anymore06:00
PlutarchI'M GAY.06:00
sexualpotatoesfantastic06:00
tonyyarussoverbose: linux-source (or linux-source-$version)06:00
PlutarchYEAH, IT'S GREAT, ISN'T IT?06:00
sexualpotatoesit depends...06:00
redsoxfan90http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362\06:00
McJerryredsoxfan90 first glimpse looks like you need to resolve your dependencies06:00
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redsoxfan90ok mc06:00
sexualpotatoeslesbian?06:00
tonyyarussoPlutarch: Please don't spam the channel with that sort of thing.06:00
PlutarchDOES IT DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU'RE A SEXUAL POTATO?06:00
PlutarchOkay, no problem.06:01
sexualpotatoesit depends on whether you are male or female lol06:01
IcemanV9redsoxfan90: sudo apt-get -f install06:01
PlutarchI have to watch the Simpsons06:01
PlutarchOn my new Dell monitor06:01
tonyyarussorukuartic: So it says you don't have permissions to see that then?  Is this in Gnome, cli, or both?  (Like, will 'cat filename' work even if Nautilus won't?)06:01
Plutarch24", baby.06:01
rummikhow do i downgrade to my previous xorg?06:01
verbosetonyyarusso: thanks06:02
First|BlehPlutarch: mine is only 19" but my dell ultrasharp has been great.06:02
i3dInrummik: that could be painful task to do06:02
First|Blehalthough i wouldn't buy anything else from them06:02
PlutarchSweet.06:03
PlutarchWhy?06:03
bimberi!xorgbug > rummik06:03
PlutarchThis 24" is insanely awesome.06:03
oconnoreI'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?06:03
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First|Blehexploding laptops and horrible tech support ring a bell?06:03
rukuartictonyyarusso: I'm actually just working in bash... I try cd /home/test and I get "permission denied". let me try nautilus really quick.06:03
rummiki2dIn: well, what should i do then? xorg is borked...06:03
upgrdman6.06 is the latest version, right?06:03
PlutarchDoes their one true treasure line ring a bell?06:03
First|Bleh6.06-106:03
rummik*i3dIn06:03
PlutarchA treasure line as in the monitors they have for sale.06:03
wweaselQuestion: How safe is NTFS write support?06:04
i3dInrummik: it will only break more dependencies if you downgrade06:04
bimberirummik: look for a /msg from ubotu06:04
PlutarchFrankly, their monitors kick ass.06:04
First|BlehPlutarch: yes..i said the monitor was great.06:04
bimberi!xorgbug06:04
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715806:04
First|Blehdid you not read that?06:04
PlutarchObviously not.06:04
PlutarchMy bad.06:04
tonyyarussoFirst|Bleh: (I think it's actually .1, not -1, not that it matters terribly unless giving the ISO download URL)06:04
rukuartictonyyarusso: Update--Doesn't work in nautilus either.06:04
PlutarchBut would that deter you from upgrading to a better monitor?06:04
i3dInrummik: the way you can try is to apt-get to a specific version of xserver-xorg06:04
jackiehi, i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-20c0b7106f06055eed889efe3946f560c34a8b1a      to install 3d of geforce 5200, but  when i sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, it tells me "error: your x configuration has been altered. this script cannot automatically. if you bellieve that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11xorg.cong .06:04
jackiemd5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver section from nv to nvidia." what should i do???06:04
rummikhow do i switch to ubotu's message in irssi?06:05
wweaselGuys? How safe is it to enable write support for NTFS partitions?06:05
rummikwait..nm06:05
tonyyarussorukuartic: Can I see the ls -l of /home/test and groups rukuartic, just to see for myself?06:05
rukuarticwweasel: not very much.06:05
bimberirummik: alt-2 (or 3 or 4 ...)06:05
rukuartictonyyarusso: sure06:05
JoseStefanrummik, got an answer yet?06:05
PlutarchFirst|Bleh?06:05
IcemanV9wweasel: bad idea :/06:05
adammichaelroachjackie, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf go to Device where it says nv and change it to nvidia06:05
JoseStefanrummik, try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:06
DarkMageZwweasel, currently we advise against it, tho i've heard good stuff about ntfs-3g if you are game enough to try it06:06
sethkjackie, you have to have left out part of that message06:06
sethkjackie, paste it into a pastebot if you can06:06
wweaselrukuartic, IcemanV9: that's what I always felt, but alot of people do it, so I wanted to be sure.06:06
tonyyarussowweasel: I've never done it myself.  I've talked to people who have and say it's fine, but everyone seems to include the caveat about it.  I think I'd try it on an unimportant system only to find out maybe.06:06
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First|BlehPlutarch: No, because their monitors are generally solid. It's their other products that I can't have any faith in that I wouldn't buy.06:06
sethktonyyarusso, don't do it06:06
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PlutarchThat's a rather smart approach to Dell.06:06
sethktonyyarusso, it has known limitations, not just bugs06:06
sexualpotatoesnot buying anything from dell is smarter06:07
tonyyarussosethk: Oh?  Haven't heard of those - what are they?06:07
ad0leanyone willing to help with my sound issue?06:07
sethktonyyarusso, I believe related to extended the size of a file.06:07
PlutarchI disagree partially, sexualpotatoes06:07
naasmart approach to dell?06:07
PlutarchYes.06:07
sexualpotatoessmart approach is to not buy from them06:07
First|Blehmy tower is all custom built..i wouldn't buy a PC from any mainstream producer.06:07
PlutarchNah.06:08
ad0leadded snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, but it's not. Any ideas?06:08
rummikouch, typing all the stuff ubotu sent is a pain...06:08
First|Blehat least i know what hardware i'm getting06:08
sexualpotatoessmart approach to dell is an oxymoron06:08
PlutarchFirst|Bleh has his opinions right.06:08
rummiki shoulda checked to see if i had gpm installed...06:08
oconnorecan someone help me?06:08
PlutarchYes, sexualpotatoes, to you.06:08
tonyyarussosethk: Ah.  Well, no real plans anyway, since I don't use my Windows any more and am probably just wiping it soon anyway.06:08
IcemanV9!offtopic06:08
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:08
sexualpotatoesand sane people06:08
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PlutarchWhat about insane people?06:08
sethkFirst|Bleh, you get cheap hardware and save money.  whether that make sense for you depends on your situation.06:08
JoseStefanrummik, you just need to undo the last update right?06:08
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sethkoconnore, don't ask someone to help, ask a question06:09
PlutarchDo you mean to say that Dell hardware is cheap, sethk?06:09
First|Blehsethk: right06:09
sexualpotatoesgood thing we're not off topic right06:09
rummikJoseStefan: yeah, that's all06:09
oconnoresethk, I already did06:09
JoseStefanrummik, try:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:09
cyphasehttp://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/21/space.tourist.ap/06:09
oconnoreI'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?06:09
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sexualpotatoeswhy do i impulsively click all links that i see...06:10
jackieadammichaelroach, sethk ,thanks06:10
sexualpotatoeswhy do you send that?06:10
bj_do sata drives need dma?06:10
sexualpotatoes*did06:10
First|Blehhttp://whoresofwarcraft.com06:10
sethkoconnore, I hadn't seen the question, sorry.06:10
rummikJoseStefan: that looks like it's working06:10
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sexualpotatoeslmao06:10
_tccO.O06:10
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oconnoreno problem06:10
help_mehey...06:10
sethkoconnore, which video hardware do you have?06:10
PlutarchHEY06:11
help_mekinda got a problem...06:11
PlutarchHELP ME06:11
rummikJoseStefan: will this be the one that was on the cd i used to install?06:11
help_mei forgot my login info lol06:11
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rukuartic!help06:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:11
bimberirummik: just be aware that that downgrades 2 versions06:11
phargle!caps06:11
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:11
JoseStefanrummik, should be the same yes06:11
PlutarchI'LL SHOUT06:11
sexualpotatoeshow do you shout with a keyboard?06:11
PlutarchI CAN READ UPPERCASE06:11
help_mei can login to the recovery console...06:11
sethkhelp_me, boot the live cd or a rescue cd and find out06:11
wweaselPlutarch, no one wants to help you if you shout.06:11
PlutarchOH, THE LOGIC, SEXUALPOTATOES.06:11
rummikJoseStefan: thanks, it should work then ^_^06:11
sethkhelp_me, you can get the user name out of /etc/passwd06:11
First|Blehhelp_me: as root type passwd usernamehere06:11
JoseStefanrummik, just remember to keep an eye open for a "newer" update06:11
oconnoresethk: ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x06:11
First|Blehand just reset your password06:11
sexualpotatoesyou CAN'T SHOUT WITH A KEYBOARD YOU NEED VOCAL CORDS NOOB!!06:12
PlutarchI like his rhetoric.06:12
PlutarchHe's hired.06:12
help_mei cantremember the username either tho...06:12
rummikJoseStefan: thanks, it works perfectly06:12
help_melol06:12
First|Bleh....06:12
sethkoconnore, I've dealt with nvidia more than ati, but I do have one box with an ati.  Are you certain that that particular ati is supported?06:12
ad0leadded snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?06:12
Plutarch:)06:12
help_mei haven't logged into my linux box in AGES06:12
help_melol06:12
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JoseStefanrummik, i think i can find the previous last update on the http repositories06:12
JoseStefanthat would be better06:13
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help_megah.. i think i am just gonna reformat...06:13
help_melol06:13
phargleit would be better if he were still here06:13
wweaselI just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).06:13
help_mety anyways...06:13
sexualpotatoesIT"S FANTASMIC06:13
PlutarchAWESOME06:13
sexualpotatoesINDEED06:13
PlutarchWHERE'S FIRST|BLEH?06:13
sexualpotatoesI DONT KNOW06:13
FirstStrike....06:13
PlutarchINDEEDERINO.06:14
sexualpotatoesLOAD NOISES06:14
help_meall i need to do now is find my cd lol06:14
PlutarchWHY DOES HE KEEP USING PERIODS?06:14
help_megah06:14
PlutarchIS HE EMPLOYING EFFECTIVE WRITTEN SKILLS, OR LACK THEREOF?06:14
ajmitchsexualpotatoes, Plutarch: stop that now06:14
sexualpotatoesHE IS HAVING ONE?06:14
JoseStefani'm gonna write up some quick help on the xserver-xorg-core issue, gonna try and see if i can find the previous package on the ubuntu package website, brb06:14
PlutarchYes, he's having one?06:14
PlutarchHe had one just before.06:14
sexualpotatoesHE-SHE06:14
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PlutarchBecause he's the hoist with the moist06:14
PlutarchUh, the host with the most06:14
phargleHAH YOU FORGOT THE CAPS06:14
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sexualpotatoesYEAH NOOB06:15
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FirstStrikefinally06:15
wweasellol06:15
wweaselno kick?06:15
wweasela ban is useless without a good kick06:15
oconnoresethk: I don't know if it's supported, I do know that people have done it before. http://www.chaosreigns.com/adventures/entry.php?date=2002-10-13&num=0106:16
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sethkoconnore, ok, so they didn't report the device not found error.06:16
wweaselwell I'm gonna ask my question again since it was drowned out by the shouting conest.06:16
wweaselI just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).06:16
oconnoreyeah06:16
FirstStrikeext3 is fine06:17
sethkwweasel, I've not heard anything about it being a big problem, but then again I've only talked to a couple of people who have used it.06:17
bimberiwweasel: afaik ext3 is fine06:17
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FirstStrikei've written about 100 gigs of files from windows to nix with no issues06:17
rikaiAnyone have any idea why my friends 7.1 card doesnt recognize center or subwoofer?06:17
JoseStefanok, anyone know the version number of the previous working xserver-xorg-core ?06:17
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IcemanV9i wonder if fglrx supports your card, oconnore?06:18
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bimberiJoseStefan: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.106:18
AnIhey when i play real media it sounds super choppy on my xubuntu desktop06:18
JoseStefanbimberi, thanks06:18
AnIany one know how to fix it?06:19
AnIi even tried with realplayer installed06:19
AnIinsteam of just gstreamer ugly06:19
AnIany idea?06:19
bimberiJoseStefan: np, btw '/msg ubotu xorgbug' :)06:19
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JoseStefanbimberi, i was about to write such info :P guess someone was one step ahead of me06:20
bimberi!-xorgbug06:20
ubotuxorgbug has no aliases - added by bimberi on 2006-08-22 03:27:1606:20
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bimberi;)06:20
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ali1234AnI: is it buffering? try increasing the buffer size...06:20
wweaselsethk, bimberi: From what I've read mounting ext3 read/write in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. Will this slowly bring down the performance of the ext3 partition?06:21
AnIali im playing from harddisk06:21
AnInot steram06:21
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sethkwweasel, I can't see why it would06:21
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wweaselsethk: what does the journal do?06:22
sethkwweasel, using the journal slows things down slightly, to gain reliability06:22
johnnybezakwhat does aterm do that other terminals don't06:22
sethkwweasel, the journal contains info that lets the file system recover quickly from abnormal halts06:22
sethkwweasel, the journal info is redundent, and thus writing the journal has a small performance penalty06:22
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sethkwweasel, If what you say is correct, I would be very careful to run fsck.ext3 after any abnormal shutdowns06:23
wweaselsethk: I am very sure that writing to ext3 in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext306:24
AnIhey some times programs freeze in my xubuntu how do i terminate it forcefully?06:24
sethkwweasel, I have less faith in such things than you do.06:25
_azrael__AnI: killall -9 processname06:25
sethkwweasel, it's probably correct, but those things are often out of date06:25
AnIwhere?06:25
johnnybezakare there any IM clients that are text based?06:25
wweaselsethk: Meaning?06:25
_azrael__Ani: or kill -9 pid06:25
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_azrael__AnI: In a terminal or command execution line.06:25
_azrael__jonnybezak: naim06:25
AnIfrom any?06:25
_azrael__AnI yeah.06:25
AnIlike just ctrl alt F1?06:25
Dev05!tell Dev05 about DNS06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
rixthwweasel, ext3 is still kinda dodgy in Windows, I'd avoid it. Sometimes Windows says "The drive X: is not formatted, would you like to format it now?" a restart fixes it06:25
AnIthen ps -f?06:25
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_azrael__AnI:Yes, that'd be an appropriate place to run it.06:26
AnIthen kill -9?06:26
AnIok06:26
AnIthx06:26
johnnybezak_azrael_: does it support msn?06:26
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_azrael__johnnybezak: onesec, let me check (I'm using it atm)06:26
wweaselrixth: Alright. Thanks :D06:26
johnnybezak_azrael_: cheers :D06:26
CraZy675I've destroyed my x11 i get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx06:26
johnnybezakanyone here use galeon?06:26
rixthjohnlittle, tmsn is terminal MSN06:27
rixther, that was foir johnnybezak06:27
Darkprinceanybody know how to uninstall easyubuntu?06:27
johnnybezakrixth: you used it?06:27
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rixthjohnnybezak, I HAVE used it, but I use aMSN mostly.06:28
johnnybezakrixth: yeah im running an old mac and its slow as shit. so text based would be nice06:28
_azrael__johnnybezak: No MSN support with naim, but it does do aim and irc06:28
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johnnybezak_azrael_: thnx06:29
fdsdusplash customization is broken on 6.06 right?06:29
sethkCraZy675, if you upgraded and caused this problem, there is a bad package that you can back out06:29
sethkCraZy675, if you did it by configuring, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:29
CraZy675sethk: i did dkpg-reconfig..... that didn't do anything06:30
sethkCraZy675, it can't do nothing.06:31
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sethkCraZy675, what did it do that you misdescribed as nothing?06:31
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CraZy675sorry it ran as usual, but after it was finished i still get the "no screens found" error06:32
sethkCraZy675, that's hardly nothing.  :)   did you load updates today?06:32
ciusanyone else have their xorg borked by the update today?06:32
sethkcius, yes, a ton of people06:32
ciuscripes to bloomin 'ell06:32
johnnybezaki've got a package blocking up apt, it just hangs when trying to do it, i can't even remove it. any one got any ideas on how to get rid of it?06:33
ciusI knew I shouldn't have rebooted06:33
CraZy675sethk: before I broke it I was trying to get mp3s working06:33
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ciusdo we have any idea what the problem with xorg is?06:33
sethk!xorgbug06:34
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715806:34
sethksorry, I had to scroll up quite a way to find that.06:34
ciusawesome, thanks06:34
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crimsunLP is down for another 3 hrs, btw.06:34
CraZy675launchpad is 50306:34
Madpilotcrimsun, just realized that... :|06:34
CraZy675apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper06:35
CraZy675i am told will fix it06:35
tonyyarussocrimsun: How come?06:35
CraZy675can i chroot the mounted partition from live cd and try that?06:35
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sethkCraZy675, that's another fix for the bad package update.  which is why I asked about whether you had updated that package today.06:35
bimberi!no xorgbugfix is <reply> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).06:35
ubotuI'll remember that, bimberi06:35
sastraxihow does one get onto the rescue interface on the latest installation CD?06:36
AnImsg ubotu xorgbugfix06:36
sastraxithe on-cd help mentions all you have to do is boot: rescue06:36
CraZy675sethk: yes i've update everything pretty much every day06:36
sastraxibut that gives me a "rescue: image not found" error06:36
sethkCraZy675, I never install an update that hasn't been out for a couple of days06:36
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sethksastraxi, It isn't just rescue.  might be linux rescue06:37
sethksastraxi, check the help carefully06:37
sastraxidid exactly what the help said06:37
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lyyanyone here familiar with memory?06:37
TokenBadok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2135706:37
bimberigah, wrong factoid!06:37
sethksastraxi, you are talking about the dapper live cd?06:37
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sethklyy, I used to be, but I've forgotten06:37
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sastraxiyeah, 6.06 I think06:37
sastraxithe "Desktop" installation cd06:37
lyysethk: is it true most ram now a days are lead free?06:38
sethksastraxi, might be obsolete help, it certainly works with breezy06:38
sastraxiahh, too bad06:38
sethklyy, they must be to be sold in certain places.06:38
CraZy675ok I'm going to go try this, thanks for your support06:38
sastraxiI'll have to brainstorm the reasons for an ubuntu install to go missing on my own then06:38
sethklyy, so I believe that, yes, they are06:38
lyysethk: is the US one of those placles?06:38
lyyi hope it is.06:38
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sethklyy, no, last I checked it was europe, with the us behind on that requirement06:38
lyyI just bought some patriot memory.06:39
lyyand i want to return it if it's not lead free06:39
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sethklyy, memory is produced in huge quantities and most manufacturers won't produce something that can't be sold everywhere06:39
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lyygood point06:39
meathead_anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux06:39
sethklyy, for a particular memory stick, you'll have to query the manufacturer06:39
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sethklyy, to be certain.06:39
redsoxfan90-mcjerry06:40
sastraxidoes anyone believe that there might be an ubuntu-related reason to why my disk would magically stop booting one fine evening?06:40
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johnnybezaksastraxi: it's stuffed06:40
sastraxior is it likely the fact that it's an 8-year-old maxtor06:40
johnnybezaksastraxi: :)06:40
sastraxiyou know06:40
sastraxiit was working fine like 10 minutes before06:40
sastraxino strange noises06:40
sastraxino write errors06:40
johnnybezaknever had a drive die on you?06:40
sastraxia good 30 megabytes per second06:40
sastraxioh, I have06:40
sastraxibut it's usually full of bells and whistles06:41
sastraxiit doesn't let you forget that it's dying06:41
sastraxiI've never had the silent-but-deadly pulled on me06:41
ali1234agreed, i've never had a drive working fine, and then totally break one day06:41
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sethksastraxi, I would boot a cd and run the smart utilities and dump out the state of the drive, assuming it's an ide drive that supports S.M.A.R.T.06:41
sethksastraxi, it's rare to get no warning, but not impossible.06:41
sastraxisethk, good idea, but it's not SMART compatible06:41
sethksastraxi, on occasion you can put a drive in the 'fridge for a couple of hours and get it to work for a while06:42
johnnybezakwhat was on the drive?06:42
sastraximain ubuntu partition06:42
sastraxifortunately my home is on a different drive06:42
sastraxiand fortunately it's a new install06:42
sastraxiI just wish I didn't have to go out and get a new hard drive is all06:42
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sethksastraxi, so all you've lost is time, and a bit of money, but no data06:42
crimsuntonyyarusso: migrating data for rosetta.06:43
ciussethk, thanks again for that ubotu reference06:43
sastraxisethk: nice to see someone's looking on the bright side of life.06:43
tonyyarussocrimsun: I see.06:43
sastraxiI can imagine it would be a pain to lose data06:43
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fernandohey can someone help me i am a newbie with linux and i wanted to mess with audacity but it is not working i was wondering if someone could help me06:44
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johnnybezakfernando: whats the matter06:44
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sastraxiok, new question.06:45
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fernandoit is telling me thati have some sort of error  hold on ill tell you exactly what it says06:45
johnnybezakdon't copy paste it though :)06:45
sastraxinow I've got a 40-gigabyte hard drive (the one my /home was on) and I want to install ubuntu onto this, keeping my data06:45
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sastraxiis that possible?06:46
IcemanV9!paste06:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:46
johnnybezaksastraxi: haha too tight to buy a new drive *shakes head* :)06:46
sethksastraxi, if it isn't backed up, I wouldn't do it, but sure, it's possible06:46
lyysethk: i'm freaking out man. hehe06:46
lyyi don't want lead poisoning06:46
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lyyi use my computer alot06:46
sastraxisethk: all it is, is a lot of windows applications that have been installed from the CD, messed around with to make them work under wine06:46
fernandothere was an error nstalling the audio i/o layer and i will not be able to play or record audio06:46
sastraxiso once again all I'd lose is time06:46
bhrobinsonhey. is there anyone that can help me with my Ubuntu? I rebooted and cannot get back into the GUI06:47
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sastraxibhrobinson, you're probably going to have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core06:47
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sastraxi(EE) no devices detected, right06:47
bhrobinsonsastraxi how do I do that?06:47
sethklyy, I don't think you'll get lead poisoning, unless the thing literally melts down06:47
bhrobinsonyou got it06:47
dibblegoI just installed 6.06.1/i386 and firefox is causing a segmentation fault - anything I can do to fix it?06:47
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Juhazlyy, then to be sure, don't eat the memory sticks06:48
sastraxijust a second, someone before told me how to06:48
icemanAnyone built a case mod06:48
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IcemanV9what version of xserver-xorg-core is causing a problem? so i know to avoid it06:48
sethkIcemanV9, the most recent one06:48
lyyJuhaz: doesn't lead over time cause problems?06:49
sastraxibhrobinson, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"06:49
sethklyy, not unless you eat it06:49
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lyyman i'm so stupid.06:49
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typhoidis it possible to change my username?06:50
bhrobinsonall I know is IRC from command prompt sucks06:50
sethklyy, people worry about lead paint because kids eat the paint chips and the crumbling paint can get into food06:50
sethktyphoid, of course, but why?06:50
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IcemanV9xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1 is the latest version?06:50
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s|kmy cpu is at 125 C06:50
s|k:/06:50
docgnomevmware created two network interfaces that i don't want... how can i remove them?06:50
bhrobinsonsastraxi, thanks. let me try that and I will be back in 10 minutes06:50
Generics|k, I've seen ones at 150+06:50
sastraxibhrobinson, thank the person that told me that!06:50
typhoidsethk i mean, my linux username.. because I don't want to see 'typhoid' when i log in @ school06:50
bj_Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this06:50
Genericof course, that was for about 2 seconds06:51
sastraxiI was banging my head for hours06:51
Genericthen they exploded06:51
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s|kGeneric: it's an athlon amd6406:51
IcemanV9typhoid: /nick <new nick>06:51
juanca777_hello everyone06:51
s|kGeneric: it doesn't seem to be doing anything bad06:51
swarmhmm06:51
GenericDude, open some vents in that case06:51
juanca777_how can i know what is the version of the compiler used for a given kernel?06:51
typhoidIcemanV9: thanks!06:51
swarmxgl+compiz is neat06:51
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swarmvery nice eyecandy06:51
Generics|k, What speed is it?06:51
s|k1800 mhz 3000+06:51
typhoidIcemanv9... that's an irc command, not linux bash06:51
Genericyeah, that's WAY too high06:51
bhrobinsonsdzfsdf06:51
bhrobinsona06:51
bhrobinsonsorry06:51
s|kGeneric: take off the sides?06:52
GenericI have a 3800+ at 2.5Ghz06:52
bhrobinsonwhat is causing that issue?06:52
s|kthere are no vents06:52
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Generics|k, yeah, take off the side panel06:52
Genericthat'll drop it down a bit06:52
IcemanV9typhoid: oh! ha. sorry.06:52
s|kGeneric: I have a ton of fans in it06:52
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meathead_anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux06:52
Generics|k, if you have no vents, that won't make a difference06:52
meathead_I get this error:06:52
meathead_Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '"', expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /var/www/tf/config.php on line 3306:52
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Genericsudo apt-get install torrentflux?06:52
Genericmeathead_, what's on line 33?06:52
s|kGeneric: the vents are in the back and front, where the fans are06:53
Genericis one blowing and the other sucking?06:53
s|kGeneric: yes06:53
sethksome people claim that removing the panels can make things run hotter, at least in critical areas, because the air flow is changed.  I don't buy that, personally.06:53
Juhazlyy, the issue with lead in electronics is mostly that it can contaminate the soil and groundwater, etc. after it ends up in the landfills. not that it magically jumps from the computer into you06:53
KrakensDenI have a sound support question06:53
Genericmight be the cabling is blocking air flow06:53
KrakensDenanyone feeling adventurous?06:53
Generictake the side panel of regardless06:53
Genericalso, how old are the fans?06:53
Genericthey may just not be very powerful06:54
meathead_Generic: $cfg["db_name"]  = "torrentflux"; // Name of the Database06:54
sastraxiKrakensDen, unfortunately someone right now is getting ready to go nuts on you for asking to ask a question :)06:54
JoseStefanmeathead_ if that is PHP, that line looks invalid06:54
Genericmeathead_, judging from that error, the quotation marks are throwing it off06:54
sastraxiwhat's up?06:54
IcemanV9!ask06:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:55
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KrakensDenwell, when I put my machine into hibernate mode06:55
KrakensDenand it comes back up06:55
KrakensDensound support dies06:55
s|kGeneric: just bought the big one06:55
GenericI blame arts!06:55
s|kin the back06:55
KrakensDenI went to runlevel 1, unloaded the drivers and reloaded them06:55
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Generics|k, you probably have messy cabling06:55
KrakensDenstill no luck06:55
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KrakensDennothing is muted06:55
s|kGeneric: yeah there is a lot of cables06:55
s|kare*06:55
KrakensDendmesg |grep ALSA gives nothing06:55
meathead_then what about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2136406:55
Generics|k, I recommend you look into organizing your cabling06:56
meathead_the two lines before it work06:56
Genericbuy some sleeving and what-not06:56
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KrakensDenany takers?06:56
Genericthen zip tie them together06:56
KrakensDensastraxi, that's why I asked06:56
docgnomeWhen I created some virtual machines with vmware it created two interfaces that I don't want. How can I remove them?06:56
KrakensDensastraxi, I was wondering if there were any gurus in the house ;)06:56
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sastraxihaha06:56
cius!xbugfix > cius06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
sastraxiwell I am no guru06:56
ciuscripes06:57
KrakensDenbollocks06:57
KrakensDenI hate posting on the forums06:57
ciuswhat was that ubotu msg again?06:57
sastraxibut i'd try grepping dmesg with alsa in small letters if you haven't already06:57
sethk!xorgbug06:57
GenericKrakensDen, did you check if arts had taken over?06:57
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).06:57
Generictry killing arts06:57
KrakensDenGeneric, I run GNOME06:57
sethkcius, xorgbug,06:57
GenericAh06:57
ciussethk, you're the man06:57
GenericNutters, i keep forgetting this is #ubuntu06:57
KrakensDenGeneric, and I went to runlevel 1 already06:57
cius!xorgbug > cius06:57
KrakensDenGeneric, so everything has already gotten killed ;)06:57
JoseStefanmeathead_, what editor are you using?06:57
sastraxiKrakensDen, what soundcard/driver?06:57
vookok, I'm having strange issues.  I just did my bi-weekly (or so) apt-get dist-upgrade, which upgraded only a few x.org packages, and now X won't work at all.  I've downloaded and installed the latest nvidia packages.  The thing is, X doesn't work *at all*. Even the nv driver doesn't work.  X -configure gives me "No devices to configure, configuration failed"  Anyone???06:57
KrakensDensastraxi, snd_hda_intel06:58
sastraxiand more importantly, what motherboard? a lot of them have broken ACPI06:58
IcemanV9add -i to grep; it'll ignores upper or lower cases06:58
sastraxiesp. in linux06:58
Flannelvook: you dist-upgrad bi-weekly?06:58
KrakensDensastraxi, the support for my particular hardware kinda stinks06:58
KrakensDenthe volume is really low06:58
meathead_JoseStefan: nano06:58
KrakensDenand the audio-in doesn't function06:58
Genericvook, apt-get upgrade?06:58
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JoseStefanmeathead_, got it06:58
rgiewhy i cant view pdf files?06:58
JoseStefanmeathead_, line 33 is not the problem06:58
KrakensDenyeah, casing on the alsa doesn't matter06:58
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JoseStefanmeathead_, it's line 32, missing a quote06:59
vookGeneric: eh, I always just do an "apt-get dist-upgrade"06:59
sastraxiKrakensDen, ick.06:59
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JoseStefanmeathead_, after quack06:59
rgiei need help06:59
sastraxium, let's see06:59
Flannelvook: anyway, an X-org package is broken at the moment06:59
Flannel!tell vook about xorgbugfix06:59
sastraxithis is a bit of a stretch, but:06:59
meathead_JoseStefan: scoooore! you get a cookie.06:59
sastraxiKrakensDen, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems07:00
KrakensDenebbeh07:00
KrakensDenI've been hoping not to have to mess with acpi :(07:00
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KrakensDensastraxi, thanks07:00
progrockI set up an ftp client where i can login and have access to my home directory.. is there a way to make links to other directories outside of my home folder?07:00
KrakensDendoes it all look like magic to anyone else?07:00
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rgiedoes anyone knows how can i view pdf files on my ubuntu?07:01
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KrakensDenrgie, evince07:01
vookFlannel: ok, thanks, that's good to know.  I can deal with it for a while.  Thank goodness for BitchX, centericq, and w3m, and gpm, etc...07:01
KrakensDenrgie, or get adobe acrobat07:01
KrakensDenrgie, it runs on linux too ;)07:02
wikijeffHow can I edit 'Places'?07:02
Flannelrgie: xpdf should be able to handle it (is it not installed by default?)07:02
rgieKrakensDen, apt-get?07:02
IcemanV9rgie: right-click on that file, select open with document viewer07:02
JoseStefandoesnt ubuntu have a pdf viewer on de default packages?07:02
KrakensDenI think so07:02
KrakensDenalt-f2 'evince'07:02
progrockcan i mount something to 2 different places?07:02
lyylooks like ubuntu is kicking fedora's butt in the community size on freenode ;D07:02
JoseStefanmine views PDFs, but i dont know if installed something for that or it came included07:02
KrakensDen I don't see it in the menus thought07:03
KrakensDenthough07:03
KrakensDenthat's bad07:03
rgiei mean on the browser it does not redirect to pdf07:03
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KrakensDenohh07:03
KrakensDenyeah07:03
KrakensDeninstall adobe acrobat07:03
IcemanV9evince is installed by default07:03
KrakensDenthey have a browser plugin07:03
lyyya07:03
JoseStefani dont have browser plugin, i just download and dbl ckick07:03
KrakensDenis it in the add/remove applications list?07:03
JoseStefanclick*07:03
fernandoi am having a proble with audacity can anyone help me07:03
rgieyah i have evince installed but still cant07:03
KrakensDenrgie, applications->add remove07:03
KrakensDenrgie, make sure 'show commercial applications' is checked07:04
JoseStefanrgie, can you open files stored in your computer? i believe there is a sample PDF in examples07:04
KrakensDenrgie, search for 'adobe'07:04
KrakensDenJoseStefan, he wants a browser plugin07:04
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rgieok ill check it07:04
JoseStefanKrakensDen, just wanted to confirm PDF support in general (for his current setup)07:04
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KrakensDenJoseStefan, evince is in the default install07:05
vookFlannel: hey, can you send that wget line again by chance?  It scrolled off before I had a chance to get it.07:05
JoseStefanhmm, just noticed there is no sample PDF in "Examples" i thought i had seen one07:05
KrakensDenactually adobe seems to get found without the 'show commercial applications' checkbox07:05
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rgiei have already checked show comercial applications07:06
Flannel!tell vook about xorgbugfix07:06
vookthanks07:06
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meathead_http://72.77.247.75/ someone wanna tell me what this means?07:06
meathead_I'm not very good with mysql07:06
IcemanV9there is no browser plugin for evince -- it just asks you what to do with this file (pdf)07:06
JoseStefan!tell JoseStefan about xorgbug07:07
JoseStefanmeathead_, that URL does not respond07:07
KrakensDengentoo has some great docs07:07
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haasteem!upgrade07:08
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.07:08
IcemanV9JoseStefan: you can /msg ubotu xorgbug -- then you can ask more in query :)07:08
JoseStefanIcemanV9, i was testing the "tell" feature07:08
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PenguinOfDoomWhy isn't the kernel source package updated nearly as often as kernel images?07:09
johnnybezakanyone here use irssi>07:09
johnnybezak?07:09
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KrakensDenyup07:09
KrakensDenbut I could never figure out how to close windows07:09
Flannel /wc07:09
johnnybezakknow a way to turn off the server messages of ppl levaing and joining?07:09
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ali1234PenguinOfDoom: because we arn't supposed to compile our own kernels :(07:09
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KrakensDenali1234, a bad attitude, imho07:10
IcemanV9johnnybezak: /set irc_conf_mode 107:10
GR4SSerror xorg-core07:10
KrakensDenali1234, they should just try and make it easy if you want to, I don't know, switch to the vanilla 2.6 kernel07:10
JoseStefanmost kernel images are slight modifications, and come from the same source, all you might see is a new diff file07:10
Flanneljohnnybezak: From all channels?07:10
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johnnybezakIcemanV9: hmm tried it, still getting -!- blah blah just quit07:10
tonyyarussojohnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu parts joins or something like that.07:11
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johnnybezakFlannel: yeah07:11
ali1234KrakensDen: i don;t want a vanilla kernel, i want the ubuntu kernel, with this patch i've just written, wich makes my dvb card work, maybe07:11
JoseStefanjohnnybezak, should be somewhere within the options of your client07:11
IcemanV9johnnybezak: are u using xchat?07:11
johnnybezakusing irssi07:11
Flanneljohnnybezak: /ignore JOINS PARTS should do it07:11
fernandojohnnybezak: i removed it and re--install it but still the same problem do you think is the way i have my sound setup07:12
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johnnybezakfernando: whats the prob. can't you get sound07:12
KrakensDenali1234, what did you write the patch against?07:12
IcemanV9johnnybezak: ah. that explains. dunno about irssi, only xchat/xchat-gnome07:12
fernandoyeah07:12
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fernandobut it is telling me that i cant record07:12
johnnybezakFlannel: hmm i just got -!- gilan has joined, think it might be the caps?07:13
johnnybezakfernando: but can you hear sound?07:13
lyyi use irssi07:13
rgiewhy i cant view pdf files from browser, when i clicked the links it redirects me to a blank pages?07:13
fernandofrom my media i can07:13
ali1234KrakensDen: against? the patch only modifies two array indexes in one source file, which hasn't changed since 2.6.15 to the latest07:13
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lyyjohnnybezak: what you trying to do?07:13
ardchoillejohnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS07:14
KrakensDenali1234, ah, nevermind :P07:14
IcemanV9rgie: did it prompt you?07:14
KrakensDenI  can't believe I'm debugging my hardware vendor's code07:14
KrakensDenbloody hell07:14
lyyi just hate that07:14
ali1234tell me about it :(07:14
IcemanV9rgie: or asks you what to do with file?07:14
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rgieIcemanV9, nope it doesnt give me an option07:14
ardchoilleKrakensDen: send them a check ;)07:14
KrakensDenardchoille, too late07:14
lyydebug it and then crack it07:15
ardchoillehaha07:15
rgieIcemanV9, it redirects me to a blank page07:15
lyyand then reverse engineer it and give it for free07:15
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KrakensDenardchoille, if I figure it out and submit the modifications, figure I could get a check?07:15
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johnnybezaklyy: get rid of those join leave messages07:15
ardchoilleKrakensDen: Don't send them anything until they agree to pay07:15
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fernandonow it's telling me i have a problem installing audio07:15
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ardchoillejohnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS  will do it, I use that myself07:15
KrakensDensastraxi, you have experience debugging dsdt?07:16
johnnybezakardchoille: just did it, so i'll wait and see. thnx :)07:16
IcemanV9rgie: hm. odd. it does that to me -- redirects me to a blank page, pops the dialog asking me what to do with it, then i click "Document Viewer" and evince starts up.07:16
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rgieIcemanV9, yah but it doesnt giveme an option, what should i do to fix these07:17
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kingrayrayis xserver borked or something? i just updated from a fresh install and now X won't start07:17
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EldaEvening everyone :)07:18
KrakensDenkingrayray, dpkg --configure xorg?07:18
ardchoillekingrayray: yes, the xorg update is borken07:18
ardchoilleKrakensDen: that won't work07:18
fernandojohnnybezak: now it is telling me i have an error initializing audio07:18
IcemanV9rgie: dunno. never happened to me before. if it did, then I would know the answer. let me see if I can find it.07:18
KrakensDenardchoille, it's one of them packages07:18
rgieIcemanV9, ok tenks07:18
ardchoillexserver-xorg-core is the broken one07:18
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KrakensDenardchoille, thats the one I meant :P07:18
kingrayrayhow do i revert to the old one, ardchoille ?07:18
n2kanyone else having gnome-terminal with multiple tabs crap out on em?07:18
Flannel!tell kingrayray about xorgbugfix07:19
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ardchoille!xorgbugfix > kingrayray07:19
kingrayrayFlannel: thanks =)07:19
kingrayraylol07:19
kingrayrayand ardchoille =P07:19
vookFlannel: thanks again, worked like a charm07:19
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Jengahey. has anybody here used openbox?07:21
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IcemanV9rgie: edit > prefs -- downloads tab, click 'view & edit actions' in download actions section07:22
rgieIcemanV9, ill check it07:23
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rgieIcemanV9, im here07:23
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KrakensDenJenga, yes07:24
fernandojohnnybezark: so what do you think i shoul do about my audio because it is telling me error initializing audio07:24
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rgieIcemanV9, whats shalli do next>?07:24
JengaKrakensDen, how does it compare to Xfce?07:25
johnnybezakfernando: look in audacity and see if you can change your audio system, there is prolly a few different options to try there07:25
ardchoilleJenga: I use openbox as my window manager in gnome07:25
KrakensDenJenga, well, it may be a bit of a shock07:25
fernandook thanks07:25
KrakensDenJenga, it has a root window menu and dock support07:25
Jengapretty bare eh?07:25
ardchoilleJenga: You used fluxbox?07:25
KrakensDenJenga, and that's about it ;)07:25
Jengano07:25
MoodlesI'm curious, is there more games bundled with the ubuntu 5.01 install distro or the ubuntu 6.06 install distro (since there is only 1 cd for both install and live) ?07:25
KrakensDenJenga, although it has a fairly cool feature where you can have dynamic menus07:26
Jengahaven't use flux. heard it's clunky07:26
IcemanV9rgie: just add PDF action - like open with evince or adobe reader07:26
KrakensDenJenga, never really found a use for it though07:26
carthikMoodles, some games come with the desktop, some are in the repository07:26
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KrakensDenJenga, it's very, very minimalist. Try it if you don't scare easy07:26
KrakensDenJenga, right click gets you a menu, and download obconf too :)07:26
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carthikMoodles, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/ for comprehensive list of games related packages07:27
JengaI'm just looking for a way to stop hanging and crashing so much and I like a minimalist look07:27
fernandojohnnybezak, no options are listed07:27
KrakensDenJenga, it may be your hardware07:27
ardchoilleJenga: If you're going to use openbox, then I recommend installing obmenu, it provides a nice gui for editing the ob menus: http://obmenu.sourceforge.net/07:27
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rgieIcemanV9, theres no add options here07:27
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KrakensDenJenga, linux is very intolerant of bad hardware07:28
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JengaPretty sure it is the hardware but max memory is 256 and I have that already07:28
johnnybezakJenga: flux is nice07:28
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KrakensDenJenga, give it a try, you might like it07:28
Jengathanks. think I will now07:28
KrakensDenJenga, but 'some configuration needed' will apply ;)07:28
Jengaof course07:29
ardchoilleJenga: If you don't like it, you can find a nice long list of other window managers at: http://xwinman.org07:29
IcemanV9rgie: omgoodness. your right. sheesh. let me see.07:29
JoseStefani heard ubuntu-server is very minimalist07:29
ardchoilleKrakensDen: "some assembly required" ? lol07:29
JengaI need a gui07:29
rgieIcemanV9, *winks07:29
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trprdon't we all have our favorites :) *pushes the WindowMaker*07:30
carthikJoseStefan, yeah. So?07:30
ardchoilletrpr: That's another nice one :)07:30
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carthikfavorite WM discussions maybe more appropriate for #ubuntu-oftopic07:30
carthikofftopic I mean07:30
ardchoilletrue07:30
Jengasure. sorry for the derail07:30
Jengathank you people07:31
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msoulokie, whenever I sudo ap.-get install fluxbox it installs 0.9.1407:31
msoulany idea why?07:31
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carthikyou're welcome Jenga - wasn't meant to ridicule or anything of that sort :)07:31
Jengano worries07:31
ardchoillemsoul: Because that's the highest version in the repos?07:31
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epitrondid anyone else upgrade their Xserver and have it stop working?07:32
KrakensDenyes07:32
metaospI just updated the xorg package and reboot, the xwindow doesn't work anymore.07:32
msoulardchoille: okie I just wanted to be sure, found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11675907:32
IcemanV9rgie: i don't know. sorry. :/07:32
epitronawesome :D07:32
carthikmetaosp, whats the error message?07:32
epitronKrakensDen: good to know it's a common thing07:32
msoulshould I grab the tarball and follow exactly what I found I here or?07:32
KrakensDenI don't know the ubotu command07:32
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ardchoilleepitron: yes, lots of folks07:32
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KrakensDen!tell carthik xorgbugfix07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell carthik xorgbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
metaospdevice not found07:32
KrakensDenthat should work07:32
KrakensDenarg07:32
epitronardchoille: i wonder why they don't roll it back07:33
carthikKrakensDen, my xorg is fine, thank you :)07:33
KrakensDener07:33
KrakensDenthe other guy07:33
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metaosphow can I roll it back?07:33
epitronKrakensDen: i need the bugfix thx :)07:33
KrakensDenepitron, wget http://archive.ubunt1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb07:33
rxt:-)07:33
epitronKrakensDen: ah.. thanks.. is that from the forums/07:33
Flannel!tell metaosp about xorgbugfix07:33
KrakensDenno idea07:34
msoulv1.0rc2 that's the latest version07:34
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linkslicei'm trying to install netatalk but don't see it in the packages list...how do I add a list?07:34
epitron!tell me about xorgbugfix07:34
KrakensDenthere is a different set of instructions if you use ppc or amd64 though07:34
KrakensDenwant those?07:34
rgieIcemanV9, npz tenks anyways07:34
ardchoillemsoul: Thanks for that link, nice info there07:34
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ubuntuyo guys07:34
tomasz27R U guys having probs with XSERVER?07:34
msoulardchoille: sure! so I could follow what's in the link I guess07:34
carthik!tell tomasz27 about xorgbugfix07:35
epitronKrakensDen: uhm... yes, i'm using amd64 actually07:35
ardchoillemsoul: I'm going to do that tonight :)07:35
tomasz27I got it07:35
Flannelajmitch: Think you could put something in the topic? ;)07:35
ubuntuFlannel: hi07:35
msoulardchoille: I'll do that I just wanted to be sure07:35
tomasz27I restored to the prev version07:35
IcemanV9rgie: sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread -- restart fx ... last option that i can think of.07:35
epitronKrakensDen: i'm guessing it's just _amd64 instead of i386 right? :)07:35
ardchoillemsoul: Yeah, from what I remember about it, that links provides good info on how to get it installed and tweaked.07:35
KrakensDen!tell epitron about xorgbugfix-amd6407:36
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FlannelHowdy ubuntu07:36
carthikKrakensDen, use /msg ubotu <whatever>     to see if it works first07:36
rgieIcemanV9, it says already the newest version07:36
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Flannelnah, if it doesn't work, you'll get a messgae here: as so07:36
epitronKrakensDen: it worked because you added "about" this time ;)07:37
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KrakensDencarthik, thanks07:37
Flannel!tell KrakensDen about somethignelse07:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about somethignelse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
IcemanV9rgie: restart fx07:37
epitronKrakensDen: and yes, it was just _amd64 instead of _i386 \o/07:37
ubuntuFlannel: i'm doing good, how bout u/07:37
ubuntuIcemanV9:  what is fx for ?07:37
msoulardchoille: :-) okie cause I did lotsa mistakes before :/07:37
KrakensDenepitron, I was just checking :)07:37
msoulBrb07:37
Flannelubuntu: doing fine.  you have a question/problem/whatever?07:37
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rgieIcemanV9, should i change directory?07:38
ubuntuFlannel: well actually i do07:38
ubuntuFlannel:  did u have problems setting up lilo on ubuntu?07:38
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ubuntui know default is grub07:38
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Flannelubuntu: ubuntu uses grub by default, if you want lilo you'll need to install from the alternate ISO, I'm not sure if the liveCD installer has an option07:39
ubuntuFlannel:  i did download it07:39
IcemanV9fx == firefox07:39
epitronwhy would you want lilo?!07:39
epitronthat's so 199807:39
ubuntuIcemanV9: ty07:39
IcemanV9rgie: for ??07:39
ubuntuepitron: sure it is , but was working on it07:40
epitronweird07:40
ubuntuepitron: i'm trying to dual boot07:40
rgieIcemanV9, start fx? it says command not found07:40
ubuntulet see how it goes07:40
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ubunturgie: try firefox07:40
Flannelubuntu: you need to do an expert install to get to the option, if I remember correctly07:40
ubuntuor mozilla-firefox07:40
IcemanV9rgie: fx is abbr for firefox. sorry. just restart the browser.07:41
ubuntuFlannel: ok ty07:41
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siriusnovathe new Xorg update is broken07:41
siriusnovajust in case anyone doesnt know :P07:41
rgieIcemanV9, oic07:41
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s|khow can broken updates slip through?07:42
ubuntuany1 here uses dual boot, 2 linux os?07:42
epitrondoes anyone have access to set the topic?07:42
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epitronit would be good if someone wrote that xorgfix thing in the topic :)07:42
KrakensDens|k, no real testing?07:42
IcemanV9rgie: lots of ppl use ff and firefox developers want us to use fx instead of ff. that's a short story.07:42
ardchoilleI know I can use "apt-cache search fluxbox" to see if fluxbox is in the repos, but how do I see which version it is?07:42
epitronsomething like: "X IS BROKEN! type <whatever> to fix"07:42
KrakensDenhopefully that will get fixed soon though07:42
s|kKrakensDen: shouldn't be released then07:42
Flannelepitron: madpilot is coming to save the day ;)07:42
KrakensDens|k, too late07:42
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KrakensDens|k, you're right though07:42
epitronwoo!07:42
epitronfix it up madpilot!07:43
s|kmy slackware system never has this problem07:43
s|k:/07:43
OsirisX11hi! anyone know of an media player that will play my uncompressed rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.07:43
ubuntuslackware is nice07:43
natural20so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?07:43
epitrons|k: slackware also doesn't have the problem where you have all this awesome software that's easy to install \o/07:43
Flannels|k: I'm sure policies will be reviewed because of this07:43
ubuntui'm planning to install it, it uses lilo by default07:43
ubuntu:)07:43
s|kno gnome apps in slackware though07:43
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s|kFlannel: it's not the first time07:43
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ubuntuepitron:  it has slapt-get ;)07:43
s|kFlannel: happened right after dapper was released07:43
fernandojohnnybezak, ok my audio work's for xmms but i have a problem iniitalising audio for audacity07:43
epitronubuntu: haha, really?07:43
ubuntuepitron:  yes sitr07:43
ardchoillemadewokherd: Thank you :)07:43
ubuntusir*07:44
s|kepitron: yes, actually it does07:44
s|kepitron: it's called slackpkg07:44
ardchoilleMadpilot: Thank you :)07:44
epitronwell SHUT MY MOUTH!07:44
ubuntus|k:  i use slapt-get to download07:44
triz0http://70.35.202.230/cgi-bin/join.txt07:44
epitronyes, thank ya kindly madewokherd07:44
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epitronand Madpilot07:44
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s|kubuntu: that too!07:44
madewokherdyou're welcome07:44
freddyhello anyone could help me out with xgl?07:44
s|kno gnome aps07:44
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epitronis that the real maddox?07:44
ubuntus|k:  have u dual booted it with ubuntu?07:45
ardchoillemadewokherd: lol, sory about that07:45
s|kI wish I could use epiphany07:45
madewokherd:)07:45
rgieIcemanV9, still doesnt work, im gonna ask firefox about this07:45
OsirisX11freddy: #ubuntu-xgl07:45
s|kubuntu: I did for a while with a windows os07:45
ubuntus|k:  browser?07:45
s|kubuntu: yes07:45
Zerojakelhello07:45
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ubuntus|k:  y cant u use it?07:45
fernandocan anyone help me with audacity07:45
s|kubuntu: slackware doesn't have any gnome series binaries07:45
IcemanV9rgie: hope u get it working.07:45
OsirisX11fernando: just ask.07:45
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ubuntui saw ephinay in synatpic07:45
PapagenoIs there an easy way to change my user name?07:45
ubuntulet me chk07:45
fernandoi have problems initialising my audio07:46
ubuntuPapageno: usermod command07:46
s|kubuntu: slackware doesn't use synatpic07:46
Zerojakeli want configure my apt-build how i do?07:46
rgieIcemanV9, yah i need it ASAP to test my project... sob tenks for the oncern07:46
ubuntus|k: oh ok ur on slackware right now, though u were on ubntu, sorry my error07:46
Papagenoubuntu: Does it have any reprecussions?07:46
s|kubuntu: epiphany comes by default with ubuntu :)07:46
OsirisX11fernando: try "i cannot initialize audio in audacity, (error message)"07:46
ubuntus|k: yes07:47
Madpilots|k, Epiphany isn't installed by default, but it is available07:47
s|kMadpilot: it was installed by default for me07:47
s|kit's just not the default browser07:47
ubuntuPapageno:  just keep chk on setting for home folder , ownership :)07:47
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Madpilots|k, epiph the browser? You sure?07:47
s|kMadpilot: yep07:47
fernandoi cannot initialize audio in audacity07:47
freddyfirefox comes by default07:47
Madpilotodd07:47
OsirisX11how can I play my uncompressed mp3 rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.07:47
s|kMadpilot: comes with gnome, afaik07:47
KrakensDens|k, no it isn't07:47
IcemanV9s|k: are you sure your on ubuntu?07:48
freddyit isnt07:48
KrakensDens|k, this is a new install, it doesn't have it07:48
s|kKrakensDen: it came with mine07:48
freddyit doesnt come with gnome07:48
KrakensDens|k, maybe on older versions07:48
ubuntuOsirisX11: download rar for linux07:48
KrakensDenbut not with dapper07:48
freddywell then you have a REALLY old version of gnome running07:48
s|ker, well it came on breezy, and it was still there when I updated07:48
s|kepiphany > firefox so it should tbh07:48
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s|kwhat about the help file viewer07:48
s|kisn't that epiphany?07:48
Madpilots|k, no, it wasn't installed by default on Breezy either, I remember installing it.07:49
freddyno07:49
freddyits firefox07:49
fernandoosirisXll: i cannot initialize audio in audacity (error message)07:49
ubuntuMadpilot: ur right07:49
Madpilots|k, no, Yelp uses Firefox for rendering07:49
s|kokay well, it came by default with mine07:49
s|kbecause I never heard of epiphany before I tried ubuntu07:49
s|kit's not like I would have installed it07:49
freddyi used to come with ubuntu07:49
IcemanV9no it isn't installed by default on hoary, breezy or dapper.07:49
freddybut long time ago07:49
KrakensDenMadpilot, you mean gecko07:49
haasteemhi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?07:49
KrakensDenMadpilot, they all use gecko07:49
KrakensDenepiphany, firefox, mozilla/seamonkey07:49
MadpilotKrakensDen, ff/gecko/same thing ;)07:49
natural20so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?07:49
OsirisX11i answered my own question: xmms and inside audio input options change it to look at content only07:49
KrakensDenMadpilot, not if you're making a distinction between that and epiphany :P07:50
ali1234natural20: i had that problem before07:50
s|kepiphany is very different from firefox07:50
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s|kbut yes it uses gecko07:50
MadpilotKrakensDen, well, they're all inferior to Opera, so I don't pay much attention :)07:50
KrakensDenit's just a shell for gecko07:50
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ubuntuopera is nice too:)07:50
freddynoone on ubuntu-xgl...anyone could give me a hand with xgl?07:50
KrakensDenfirefox is a XUL shell07:50
freddyits just a simple thing07:50
ali1234natural20: if firefox ever failed to load a page because of internet problems, it would never ever load that page again07:50
KrakensDenepiphany is a GTK one07:50
KrakensDenthere's a demo to write one in pyGTK I've seen07:51
ali1234natural20: in the end i deleted my firefox profile and started again07:51
KrakensDenit's like 20 lines07:51
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KrakensDenback, forward, address bar, it has everything07:51
natural20alil234 it doesn't load, ever, is that what you mean?07:51
TooTallJoneshey folks07:51
ali1234natural20: yes, after internet came back up, the page still would not load07:51
ubuntu1 more small query i have , any1 here uses console broswers like w3m or elinks?07:51
fernandoi have an (error message) i cannot initialize audio in audacity.07:51
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ubuntufernando:  make sure it aint in use by other apps07:52
ali1234natural20: although it did not time out, it just loaded up a blank page07:52
haasteemhi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?07:52
TooTallJoneslooking for someone to help troubleshoot visontek xtasy ATI 9550.  3d screen savers lag and freeze up the comp overnight.  Just overall slow performance07:52
ubuntuKrakensDen:  which one?07:52
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natural20alil234 can you walk me through your solution? i am a complete linux noob07:52
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lupine_85whew. 3 hours to sort out one wireless problem :D07:53
Flannelhaasteem: make sure you re-install any large meta packages, like ubuntu-desktop, before upgrading07:53
ubuntunatural20: nice, me too :)07:53
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ubuntulupine_85:  wake up man, ur drooling over ur keyboard :o07:53
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natural20ubuntu how is that possible, you're on here helping people!07:53
haasteemFlannel: but update-manager telling me it can't upgrade some packages is a result of that?07:53
TooTallJonesi've tried fglrx, ati, and the ati drivers from the ati website.07:54
ali1234natural20: close firefox, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup, restart firefox07:54
lupine_85bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt07:54
KrakensDenubuntu, lynx and links07:54
ubuntunatural20: i'm here to learn t:)07:54
lupine_85ow!07:54
msoulI'm installing fluxbox and I don't know why I get these msgs: gzip07:54
ubuntuif i can , i'll help07:54
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fernandoubuntu: i closed everithing that uses sound but when i try to open audacity it tell's me i have an error initializing my audio07:54
ubuntuKrakensDen:  aah kool07:54
msoultarzeau: error exit delayed from previous errors07:54
msoulany idea?07:54
gbaumanHello... I'd like to get my console (not X) to use my laptop's native resolution, 1440x900. Does anyone know offhand what kernel parameters I need? Something like vga=xxx I think07:54
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natural20alil234, do i need to do that in the directory firefox is in? do i need to use sudo?07:54
lupine_85fernando: did you kill the audio daemon as well (arts for kde; esd for gnome)07:54
ali1234no, and no07:55
TooTallJonesanyone want to help me troubleshoot this graphics card? =(07:55
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ubuntuKrakensDen: try elink if u use console too :)07:56
fernandolupine_85: how do i do that07:56
ubuntunice small app07:56
msoulE: couldn't find package fluxbox07:56
ubuntue:?07:56
KrakensDenubuntu, I mean elinks :P.07:56
Flannele: is for error.  msoul do you have universe enabled?07:56
ubuntuKrakensDen:  lol07:56
ubuntusee i'm a new bie :(07:56
ubuntuthat cant spell right07:56
ubuntuhaha07:56
msoulFlannel: I'm not sure, how can I do that?07:56
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Flannel!tell msoul about universe07:57
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docgnomeI'm trying to set up my ubuntu box to do nat and internet sharing from my modem connection (ppp0) and my local network (eth0) I'm using guarddog and guidedog but guidedog doesn't seem to be doing any good. When I tell guidedog to enable routing and enable ip masquerade, it dosn't seem to change anything.07:57
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ubuntui dont like guard dog , never worked here :(07:58
ubuntufirestarter :)07:58
docgnomei can't get firestarter to work for me either :-\07:58
msoulFlannel: I even tried to install fluxbox (tarball) yet I failed tar: error exit delayed from previous errors07:58
ubuntudocgnome: ouch :(07:58
IcemanV9TooTallJones: did you try xorg driver for ati card? 3d does work on my lowly laptop ati card -- mobility m6 ly07:58
Flannelmsoul: fluxbox is in the repositories, no reason not to use that one07:58
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TooTallJonesYeah I did07:59
TooTallJonesnone of them seem to change anything07:59
shmhoHello07:59
docgnomeubuntu: ... i lied. it just worked. like magic07:59
docgnomewoot!07:59
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fdsdhey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?07:59
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shmhoIs there anyone has a problem with xserver-xorg-core now? I have updated my kubuntu than it doesn't work08:00
lupine_85Anyone with a spare 5 minutes, a bit of developer experience (only a bit :D) and a small bit of know-how fancy reviewing an 18K .odt file for me?08:00
|thunderso did everyone get a notification of a xserver update earlier ?08:00
IcemanV9TooTallJones: glxinfo |grep direct -- if it says yes, then you have 3d accler08:00
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Flannelshmho: check the topic08:00
lupine_85it's a few initial thoughs on an automatic wlan config utility08:00
lupine_85thoughts*08:00
Madpilot|thunder, yes08:00
ubuntudocgnome: lol08:00
lupine_85that I'm planning on writing08:00
shmhoFlannel: thanks :)08:00
TooTallJonesdirect rendering: No08:00
TooTallJonesOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:00
ubuntumsoul:  y not use blackbox?08:00
jamincan someone help me with skype08:01
jaminhttp://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/08:01
|thunderthat update busted x for me, says08:01
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|thunderi had to reinstall08:01
Flannel!tell jamin about skype08:01
jaminwhich on is ubuntu? debian correct08:01
bhrobinsoncan anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?08:01
Flannel|thunder: no, just downgrade, check the topic08:01
heavydrinkercan we curse in this channel?08:01
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lupine_85only quietly ;)08:01
IcemanV9TooTallJones: ah. it is not supported then. i don't know what to say more. never heard of your card, tho.08:01
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heavydrinkerdarn08:01
msoulubuntu: What are the differents?08:01
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TooTallJoneshm08:01
lupine_85oh, poop08:02
ubuntumsoul: just a bit give it a try sudo apt-get install blackbox08:02
|thunderahh. thanks Flannel didnt see that08:02
bhrobinsoncan anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?08:02
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s|kokay08:02
lupine_85a ubuntu developer messed up08:02
s|kI just started my computer08:02
msoulubuntu do you have a screenshot?08:02
Flannelbhrobinson: check the topic for the fix08:02
shmhobhrobinson: topic!08:02
s|kand it says the cpu temp is 127 c08:02
s|kis that even possible?08:02
IcemanV9TooTallJones: try to post it in ubuntuforums to see if anyone can help ya08:02
bhrobinsonalready fixed but downgrading...08:03
shmhobhrobinson: all the guys have that problem now. :) including me08:03
DarkMageZs|k, celcius or F?08:03
|thunderlupine_85, no way. is it gonna ask me again ?08:03
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ubuntumsoul: not at moment , google it08:03
TooTallJonesalright, thanks IcemanV908:03
msoulk08:03
bhrobinsonI am just wondering how to keep people from trying to install the auto update08:03
|thunderi mean, if I do a dist-upgrade right now will it bust x again ?08:03
Flannelbhrobinson: you could pin the package temporarily08:03
ubuntubrb08:03
s|kDarkMageZ: c08:03
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DarkMageZs|k, it's impossible in celcius cause the max ANY cpu can handle is 12008:04
heavydrinkerby next month i'd like to have rhythmbox playing non-open source file types08:04
bhrobinsonFlannel: I have not done that before... should I bother, or can I assume it will be resolved quickly?08:04
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drshasta19hey08:04
drshasta19i need help08:04
otroeanJust installed dapper on ASUS W1V laptop with ATI x700. When xserver starts the screens turn blank when I use ati driver. No error message...08:04
s|kokay so motherboard monitor doesn't work well with amd64?08:04
drshasta19i have this big message08:04
heavydrinkerstreaming OGG stations kinda suck08:04
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drshasta19that goes on for 12 min at every boot08:04
msoulubuntu: and you think I can set a theme/transparency just like fluxbox08:04
drshasta19Buffer I/O error on device dm-008:04
Flannelbhrobinson: should be resolved tomorrow08:04
bhrobinsonthanks...08:04
bhrobinsonone more question...08:04
drshasta19if naybody has any idea...08:05
drshasta19thanks in advance08:05
ubuntumsoul: not sure, i use xfce08:05
msoulk08:05
DarkMageZheavydrinker, checkout the restrictedformats page @ wiki.ubuntu.com it will help you add the right codecs to let you play mp3 streams :)08:05
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Flanneldrshasta19: I had that error before, it was a bad HD.  Not saying yours is bad necessarily.  check the cable etc too.08:05
bhrobinsonI finally have given up on my video card, but wonder if anyone can help. I have an AGP and a PCI Nvidia 5200 dual head cards08:05
drshasta19Flannel i have a laptop08:05
drshasta19Flannel i did fsck and did not find anything08:05
bhrobinsonif I try to use those both, GDM will not start.08:05
bhrobinsonI finally pulled the AGP and put in an old Matrox 45008:06
msoulFlannel: is there a way to upgrade that btw? to the latest version08:06
bhrobinsonany ideas though?08:06
Flannelmsoul: upgrade what?08:06
ubuntubhrobinson:  try kdm ;)08:06
Mkquistheavydrinker-no mp3?08:06
drshasta19so Flannel any way i could fix that?08:06
Flannelmsoul: oh, fluxbox.  Short of compiling it yourself? no.08:06
Mkquistnm08:06
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Mkquistsomeone already got it for ya08:06
bhrobinsonlol... in jest I am sure, but do you think it would make a difference?08:06
Flanneldrshasta19: no idea.  Like I said, when I had the problem it was a hardware problem.  That doesn't mean yours is though.08:07
heavydrinkerRealPlayer under GNOME seems to be semi-weak08:07
ubuntubhrobinson: lol, worth a shot , heh08:07
drshasta19Flannel ok thanks08:07
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bhrobinsonubuntu: thanks... I will try that. All I need to do is run kdm from the command, right?08:07
heavydrinkeri've been using linux for nearly 4 days..  how long 'til i'm a power user?08:07
ubuntubhrobinson:  sudo apt-get install kdm08:07
bhrobinsonubuntu: I think I already have it installed, just not the default08:08
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sastraxiheavydrinker, I'd give it at least until you've considered switching back to windows about 3 times08:08
ubuntubhrobinson: then try dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:08
ubuntuset kdm as ur default,, reboot , cross ur fingers08:08
ubuntu;)08:08
drshasta19a+08:08
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sastraxibhrobinson, still a problem?08:09
fernandolupine_85, ok it is telling me error while openig sound device. please check the output device setting and the project sample rate08:09
bhrobinsonsastraxi, no I am back in the gui, but I pulled all my video cards as that was close to the issue I was having last night... that is what took so long08:09
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ubuntubhrobinson:  good luck though, hope it helps08:10
asabilhello all08:10
bhrobinsonubuntu: thanks...08:10
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asabilI have some troubles with vmware-player08:11
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ubuntuyw08:11
fernandodevios can you help me i have some problems with audacity08:11
asabilhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html08:11
asabilthis is the problem08:11
asabilcan someone help me out please ?08:12
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ubuntuany consoel based cd players for ubuntu?08:13
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KrakensDenubuntu, apt-get whatever-you-used-to-use?08:13
heavydrinkeri expect to be able to play .AVI files within two years, if not...  i'm out of here08:13
ubuntuKrakensDen: i dont have 1 :p08:14
MorphDKubuntu, mcdp08:14
KrakensDenheavydrinker, you can't? I can08:14
sastraxiheavydrinker, look up easyubuntu if you haven't already08:14
ubuntuMorphDK: ty08:14
asabilanyone please ?08:14
sastraxithat's where you get all the fancy win32 codecs and flash plugins you may be looking for08:14
MorphDKubuntu, or WorkBone08:14
DevGetif a script is started by the www-data user, can I think about that the script over httpd then?08:14
ubuntuMorphDK: ok ty will chk it out08:14
Kanpachihello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?08:14
DevGetthe script has www.data as owner too08:15
noiesmoheavydrinker, check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#08:15
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shmho:) my Kubuntu is now works. thanks all.08:15
asabilhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html08:15
asabilcan someone look at this please?08:15
KrakensDenARGH08:15
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odathi everyone08:15
KrakensDenwtf08:15
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KrakensDennonononono08:15
KrakensDenwhy is my sound working?08:15
sastraxihahaha08:15
KrakensDenno08:15
KrakensDenwhat the hell08:15
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asabilKrakensDen, yesyesyesyes08:16
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shmhoaaronc: I can read that page hm08:16
Kanpachihello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?08:16
KrakensDenno, it's BAD08:16
KrakensDenbecause I don't know why it works :(08:16
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ubuntulol08:16
ubuntuMorphDK: ty , it is working :)08:16
asabilkandinski, did you change znything in gconf ?08:16
KrakensDenand I just wasted an hour of my life looking up ydata on acpi assembl08:16
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KrakensDens/assembl/assembly08:16
msoulFlannel failed to start the X Server08:16
asabiloups08:16
sastraxiKrakensDen, sorry about that =/08:16
msoulafter I did install fluxbox08:17
asabilKanpachi, did you change znything in gconf ?08:17
odatanyone able to give some suggestions about an open source website project?08:17
Kanpachinot really08:17
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KrakensDensastraxi, you know what's funny? The only help on my particular error message08:17
KrakensDensastraxi, looks to be this08:17
KrakensDenhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1622/08:17
Flannelmsoul: did it update your xserver package?   (probably - read the topic about how to fix that)08:17
asabilKanpachi, what did you do then ?08:17
weirdofor some reason i cant seem to cd to /home/usrname/ anymore08:17
msoulFlannel: Yeah I did update08:17
KrakensDensastraxi, which is basically my laptop's DSDT08:17
asabilcan someone help me out with vmware ?08:17
Flannelodat: you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic08:17
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Kanpachii had previews for old videos, and i deleted my .thumbnails dir cuz i d/led new videos and it won't show previews of them08:18
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meathead_why is it I can load pages from apache2 with localhost in firefox, but not with my IP from another computer?08:18
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sethkodat, what project?08:18
sastraxiKrakensDen, wow08:18
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msoulk08:18
msoulbrb08:18
sastraxiso did you try the recompile bit?08:18
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KrakensDenum08:18
sastraxi16 errors, ah I see08:18
KrakensDennope08:19
sastraxisorry, I missed that completely08:19
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ubuntumeathead_: firewalls?08:19
KrakensDenCFGD doesn't exist anywhere else in the file08:19
KrakensDenjust in that one method08:19
weirdodoes anyone know why i cant cd to the /home/user folder?08:19
KrakensDenso I'm not sure what it's supposed to reference08:19
Kanpachiwhat can i do now?08:19
meathead_ubuntu forwarded port 8008:19
meathead_no firefox08:19
meathead_err08:19
meathead_firewall08:19
KrakensDenand I grepped through the spec08:19
KrakensDenno mention of CFGD08:19
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sastraxiKrakensDen, any way you can send me that file?08:19
asabilKanpachi, are you able to play the new videos in totem ?08:19
ubuntu[Wiebel] : permisson?08:19
KrakensDenbut I've found it in random DSDT files08:19
sastraxithis is a cool mystery to me08:19
Kanpachiyes08:19
KrakensDensastraxi, give me your email?08:19
fdsdhey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?08:19
KrakensDenor a paste service08:20
Kanpachinow i don't have previews at all08:20
Kanpachi:(08:20
Kanpachionly pic previews08:20
[Wiebel] ubuntu: que?08:20
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odatsethk, www.fossystems.com08:20
asabilanyone used to vmware player ?08:20
dibblegohow do I remove a kernel?08:20
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ubuntu[Wiebel] : sorry was for that wierdo dude08:20
DragoraNhi08:20
heavydrinkerwell, copying and pasting did something, i don't know what...  gonna reboot and check it out i guess08:20
dibblegoI want to remove the 2.6.15-26 kernel - X won't start with it08:21
DragoraNi get black images from motion ... why?08:21
lyyalright!08:21
[Wiebel] ubuntu: ah ok :)08:21
Kanpachithe strange thing is, i get picture previews08:21
KrakensDensastraxi, krakensden.dyndns.org/dsdt.dsl08:21
[Wiebel] np08:21
Kanpachibut not video preivews08:21
lyyalright! my laptop now has 2 gigs of ram! hahah :D08:21
sethkodat, I'll join #ubuntu-offtopic08:21
weirdo?08:21
KrakensDensastraxi, and krakensden.dyndns.org/compile_log08:21
meathead_someone try http://72.77.247.75/center08:21
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natural20so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error08:21
ubuntu[Wiebel] : ty08:21
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weirdooh permission?08:21
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weirdoim trying to cd to my own dir08:21
docgnomewhere do i set a static ip address for my ethernet card so that it uses it at startup?08:22
weirdobut it wont let me08:22
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ubuntu[Wierdo yep, chk owner ship08:22
ubuntuand other security settings08:22
lyydocgnome: /etc/hosts08:22
KrakensDensastraxi, http://www.acpi.info/spec.htm <- spec08:22
sethkdocgnome, network-admin (breezy) or NetworkAdmin( dapper) programs.  or do you mean, what text file?08:22
docgnomesethk: text file.08:22
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lyyi was off base ?08:23
lyysorry08:23
mcrandellohi does anyone know how to block modules from loading other than the blacklist file?08:23
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mcrandelloit doesn't seem to work: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/14384908:23
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weirdofile owner is me08:23
weirdoand owner has r w e08:23
sastraxiKrakensDen, thanks08:23
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ubuntuwierdo what error message u get?08:23
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KrakensDensastraxi, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/34167-need-help-fixing-buggy-acpi-dsdt-anyone-asl-skills-please-help.html <- that guy has CFGD defined08:24
sethkdocgnome, /etc/network/interfaces08:24
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weirdoif i try to cd to my usrname dir, it just cd's to /08:24
asabilanyone please?08:24
KrakensDensastraxi, , but I just don't know enough to, well, do anything with confidence08:24
docgnomesethk: hrm. Is there a tutorial on fiddling with that file? I'm setting things in there, but i seem to have done it incorrectly08:24
weirdoif i try to cp some stuff from my usrname dir, i get ommitting directory08:24
ubuntuwierdo try this, login as that user type cd $HOME08:25
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Flannelweirdo: does your  username dir still exist?08:25
sethkdocgnome, I think there is, but I don't have the url at the moment08:25
msoulFlannel: error not found08:25
docgnomesethk: right.08:25
weirdonothing still08:25
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weirdoim still at dir /08:25
weirdoi am logged in as that user08:25
sethkdocgnome, best thing to do is to copy the file, make changes with the gui, and see what changes in the file08:25
Flannelweirdo: cd /home/  and then ls, do you see your username?08:25
mcrandellotype echo $HOME and let us know what it sayw08:25
ubuntuchk ur user setting then, what is home folder set too08:25
sethkdocgnome, that's more accurate (at least potentially) than any doc is going to be08:25
fdsdHey Guys, I have a dumb question how do I downgrade a package?08:25
weirdoyah it's in blue08:26
Flannelfdsd: you mean xorg?08:26
heavydrinker.pls files still wont play in rhythmbox, but i need to just lurk for while....08:26
ubuntutype echo $HOME08:26
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fdsdFlannel, usplash08:26
fdsdFlannel, I need to install an older dep08:26
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weirdoit gives me the same dir im trying to cd to08:26
fdsdFlannel, I need to look up what older packages exsist and install an older one08:26
ubuntuwierdo does the folder exist?08:26
weirdoi can get as far as cd'ing to /home only08:26
dibblegoI upgraded the kernel to 2.6.15-26-386 then X refused to start (no screens found) so I rolled back the kernel (apt-get remove 2.6.15-26-386) but still X refuses to start - why?08:27
weirdoya08:27
Flannelweirdo: and which subdirs are there?08:27
sethkdibblego, not a kernel problem08:27
sethk!xorgbug08:27
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).08:27
Flanneldibblego: read the topic08:27
Flannelor that08:27
dibblegosethk, sure, but why all of a sudden?08:27
sethkdibblego, bad package, released today08:27
KrakensDensastraxi, http://djax.linuxbourg.ch/blog/?p=30&lp_lang_view=en <- check the first diff08:27
dibblegoah08:27
weirdoDesktop, Documents, Installer08:27
Flannelweirdo: thats not what should be in /home/08:27
weirdoer08:28
sethkdibblego, see topic, or what I did a few lines ago, to fix it08:28
weirdoit's /home/weirdo/Desktop... etc08:28
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dibblegook thanks08:28
weirdoi just cant cd to /weirdo08:28
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sastraxiok, this is VERY useful KrakensDen08:28
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Flannel /weirdo is wrong.  it's /home/weirdo or ~08:28
sethkweirdo, there likely isn't a /weirdo.  it will be /home/weirdo08:28
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ubuntuit should be cd /home/wierdo08:28
mcrandelloweirdo: you try "sudo chown -R weirdo /home/weirdo" yet?08:28
weirdoi mean /home/weirdo08:29
dibblegodoes that mean I should put the kernel back?08:29
Andru1how do i make multi-key keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard Shortcuts Gnome thing?08:29
weirdowhat does chown do08:29
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mcrandelloassigns ownership08:29
sethkweirdo, if you aren't sure of your home directory name,  cd  (no arguments) goes to your home directory08:29
mcrandelloin case the user number is messed up it can help08:29
sethkweirdo, stands for change owner08:29
mcrandellothat happens to me sometimes when I switch distros08:29
Andru1so, anybody know how to assign multi-key keyboard shortcuts?08:30
mcrandellosometimes the primary group or user number isn't what's expected so it'll show up as yours in "ls -la" but you still don't have perms08:30
DigitalStimulusgah, silly bugs!  glad i came here :0)08:30
sethkmcrandello, you can, instead, edit /etc/passwd and change the numerical equivalent of your user id08:30
DigitalStimulusbeen chasing that for an hour thought it was something i did08:30
ubuntuwell bbl guys08:30
ubuntulater all, tc08:30
s|kDarkMageZ: still around?08:31
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DarkMageZs|k, yup08:31
mcrandellosethk: I like to go with whatever the distro wants but that could work too08:31
s|kDarkMageZ: I tried two different software applications, and they both tell me my cpu temp is 260 Farenheit08:31
JoseStefan!paste08:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:32
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Suplyndmndoh wow08:32
sethkmcrandello, the number is just a number.  some set the next user id to be 500, some 100008:32
DarkMageZs|k, can you translate that to 'c for me?08:32
weirdothanks it's working now08:32
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s|kDarkMageZ: 127 Celcius08:32
sethkmcrandello, as long as you don't change any of the user ids defined by the system (root, syslog, that sort of thing) changing an id does nothing significant08:32
SuplyndmndHello all... Linux noob here08:33
asabilcan anyone help me out with vmware ?08:33
asabilcan someone help out please?08:33
JoseStefanis this valid syntax for apt_preferences: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21367  ??08:33
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DarkMageZs|k, it's technically impossible. no chip for x86 or x64 available to the general market can handle that heat... the sensor might be faulty or the software08:33
Andrukhow do i use multi-key keyboard shortcuts?08:34
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Andrukwell, how do i assign them?08:34
s|kDarkMageZ: it's a brand new board :/08:34
natural20so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error08:34
mcrandellosethk: true true I'll maybe try it that way when I export my homedir over to the slackware box at home :)08:34
s|kDarkMageZ: the pc is hot to the touch08:34
BeepAUwhat should i use to play realmedia in ubuntu?08:34
SuplyndmndDoes Firefox run on Ubuntu?08:34
natural20sethk: i don't think i thanked you earlier, so thanks :)08:34
FlannelSuplyndmnd: yep, installed by default08:34
KrakensDenBeepAU, realplayer?08:34
sethk260 F is 126.66 C08:34
Suplyndmndoh, sweet... Thanks Flannel08:34
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asabilanyone using vmware-player ?08:34
DarkMageZs|k, hmm, i'd turn it off and get some help :S08:34
sethknatural20, not sure if I helped, but if I did, np08:34
KrakensDenBeepAU, open up add/install programs and search for it08:35
monksterSuplyndmnd, sudo apt-get install firefox08:35
BeepAUKrakensDen -- is there a better option?08:35
bimberiSuplyndmnd: yes, it's installed by default08:35
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heavydrinkeryeah, i got ralplayer working...  no idea how....08:35
JoseStefans|k, probably a bad sensor, or the software invlolved doesnt know how to read the sensor08:35
KrakensDenBeepAU, well, mplayer or VLC might play real media streams08:35
mcrandelloanyone know why this would happen? modules blacklisted but still coming up after reboot http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/14384908:35
Suplyndmndmonkster, I am new :) So no idea what that means but i'll figure it out if it can work :)08:35
KrakensDenBeepAU, but real is easy to set up, and it works much better under linux than windows :P08:35
DarkMageZs|k, tho if it was really @ 126'c your processor would be fried :P08:35
KrakensDenBeepAU, no spyware or anything08:35
Suplyndmnd126c, jesus08:35
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KrakensDenBeepAU, it's a bit crippled though- you can't do playlists or anything08:35
s|kthe computer seems to be running just fine08:35
KrakensDenBeepAU, try it, you might like it08:35
s|kit's not slow or anything08:36
s|kor causing any problems08:36
dibblegowhat command tells me the amount of memory in a machine?08:36
DarkMageZs|k, then it has to be a bad sensor or software :P08:36
JoseStefanis this valid syntax for apt_preferences, it doesnt seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2136708:36
heavydrinkeri'll figure out how to load codecs into the default media player..  after a while08:36
s|k:<08:36
Flannel!tell heavydrinker about codecs08:36
BeepAUKrakensDen -- do i get 'realplayer' or 'RealPlayer 10'?08:36
monksterlike the others said, it is installed by default, so you probably don't have to install it with that command08:36
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bimberidibblego: 'cat /proc/meminfo' and 'free' are 208:36
asabilanyone using vmware-player ?08:37
KrakensDenBeepAU, oh, I did this the other day...08:37
dibblegothanks08:37
JoseStefandibblego, try "free"08:37
KrakensDenBeepAU, are you using synaptic?08:37
JoseStefandibblego, man free08:37
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KrakensDenBeepAU, one will give an error right off, the other one won't08:37
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KrakensDenBeepAU, go with the working one :P08:37
BeepAUasabil -- i use it to run windows xp.08:37
daraknor!tell daraknor about codecs08:37
asabilBeepAU, could you help me please ?08:38
BeepAUKrakensDen -- synaptic for what? i'm in add/remove applications08:38
asabilhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html08:38
asabilthis is my problem08:38
KrakensDennarf08:38
KrakensDenum08:38
Andru1does anybody know where i can find information about multi-key keyboard shortcuts08:38
Andru1?08:38
KrakensDengimme a sec08:38
KrakensDenAndru1, what do you want to know?08:38
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KrakensDenBeepAU, realplayer 1008:38
daraknorAndru1, system menu, preferences, keyboard shortcuts is a great place to start08:38
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KrakensDenBeepAU, realplayer is real v 8, realplayer 10 is v 1008:39
asabilAndru1, ala emacs ?08:39
asabilAndru1, C-X C-S ?08:39
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daraknorI feel bad asking this, but I want to join #python on the freenode network and says I need to identify. I read /help and it doesn't have an apparently related command08:39
BeepAUasabil -- are you loading it through the menu?08:39
Andru1KrakensDen: How do i input multi-key keyboard shortcuts with Keyboard Shortcuts thing in gnome...?08:40
JoseStefanis this valid syntax for apt/preferences, it doesn't seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21368 ??08:40
Flanneldaraknor: /msg nickserv help identify08:40
Flanneler, daraknor help register, not identify08:40
Andru1i am in the keyboard shortcuts thing08:40
daraknorFlannel, thanks, I did /register and it doesn't exist :/08:40
mcrandelloAndru1: check out xmodmap and xev if you can't get what you want any other way08:40
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asabilBeepAU, this is during the install :/08:41
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mcrandelloAndru1: promises to be complicated but you might be able to cobble together something08:41
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heavydrinkerthe help file says i need to smoke more pot08:42
SuplyndmndDoes Ubuntu and Windows get along if on seperate drives?08:42
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KrakensDenAndru1, what mcrandello said08:42
Andru1right, like, i want to have the win***s key +L be the logout shortcut, but it will only accept the first keyboard input it receives08:42
Andru1heavydrinker: are you sure you need to smoke pot?  I mean, alcohol is so much more refined...08:43
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BeepAUasabil -- ever gone 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player', as that's all it took me to install.08:43
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mcrandelloAndru1 with xmodmap you can map a multikey combo to output something that looks like 1 key to the X server and then put that keycode into where you want it to trigger say logging out08:44
BeepAUasabil -- ?08:44
mcrandelloat least I think08:44
Andru1okay08:44
Suplyndmndliar, prove it08:44
sethkSuplyndmnd, just fine, as long as windows is on  primary master.  linux can be anywhere08:44
asabilBeepAU, which kernel do you use ?08:44
vouzicomorning08:44
NickGarveyvouzico: hehe, 2:44 here08:44
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SuplyndmndIt is on primary master.... and thank you08:44
BeepAUasabil -- i use the default ubuntu terminal.08:45
Andru1mcrandello: so i just need to search for a few xev and xmodmap tutorials/howtos and i should be able to figure it out08:45
asabilBeepAU, uname -r08:45
SuplyndmndI promise to stop asking noob questions soon as i get this installed and figure some stuff out08:45
BeepAUasabil -- 2.6.15-23-38608:45
mcrandelloAndru1: in theory, I was trying to get kde to use my Fn key that way and almost had it working the way I wanted then I reformatted due to an unrelated bug08:45
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asabilBeepAU, you must be using the default kernel, thats why :)08:45
asabilI am out of luck08:45
asabilmine is  2.6.15-26-68608:46
Andru1mcrandello: okay, cool, thanks a lot!08:46
mcrandelloAndru1: good luck with it, a lot of the old-school X stuff can seem confusing at first08:46
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BeepAUKrakensDen -- thanks for your help.08:48
rapieranyone got an example iptables rule to forward a port to another machine while running nat?08:48
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KrakensDenBeepAU, it worked? Awesome :P08:48
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KrakensDenBeepAU, happy to help08:48
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meatheadanyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder08:49
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heavydrinkerthat easy ubuntu link was for 3 versions back08:50
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natural20so you know yahoo groups? well i can't load 'em on and it has to be something in ubuntu.  neither firefox or epiphany will load the pages, but my XP comp on the same connection loads just fine.  any ideas?08:51
heavydrinkeropea08:51
heavydrinkerr*08:51
natural20opera run on breezy?08:51
NickGarveynatural20: it should08:52
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KrakensDennatural20, download the deb, see if it works :)08:53
JoseStefannatural20, opera.com has downloads for breezy, i believe it's not on the ubuntu repositories08:53
NickGarvey!opera08:53
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:53
ompaul!info opera breezy08:54
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in breezy08:54
NickGarvey!info opera dapper08:54
mcrandelloseriously I'm stumped does anyone know what overrides /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in ubuntu?08:54
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in dapper08:54
JoseStefanopera is on the canonical commercial repositories08:54
JoseStefanbut that is for dapper08:54
JoseStefanfore breezy you must download from opera.com08:54
NickGarveyJoseStefan: ah, didn't know that ):08:54
NickGarvey:)*08:55
natural20how do i want to download the opera breezy package?  tar.gz or the default?08:55
SuplyndmndLooking at a step by step guide.... this has to be (it seems) the most straight forward program installation ever08:55
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NickGarveySuplyndmnd: what are you instaling?08:56
JoseStefanNickGarvey, archive.canonical.com08:56
SuplyndmndUbuntu, soon08:56
altigenhi~  i  have a question on ip_forward in ubuntu08:56
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: oh, excellent :)08:56
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elkbuntualtigen, dont ask to ask, just ask08:56
MorphDKbah.. my xorg just stopped working after an apt-get upgrade08:56
meatheadanyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder08:57
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MorphDK"No screens found"08:57
SuplyndmndI'm moving stuff off a drive.  Will be installing in the morning as it's 3am08:57
xfailhmm08:57
xfailsame thing08:57
MorphDK:/08:57
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elkbuntusame to you, meathead, just ask the question...08:57
KrakensDenMorphDK, check the topic08:57
JoseStefan!tell MorphDK about xorgbug08:57
KrakensDenxfail, check the topic08:57
MorphDKoh.. sweet :)08:57
xfailhmm, how do I check it in sirc08:57
altigeni uncommented "net/ipv4/ip_forward=1" in /etc/sysctrl.conf, and after reboot, i got /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=108:57
SuplyndmndNickGarvey, may I send you a /msg?08:57
poningru!ubuntu08:58
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome08:58
poningruerr08:58
poningru!pdf08:58
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)08:58
altigeni have 2 subnet beside 2 network interfaces, 192.168.10.1 and 10.100.1.23608:58
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: yes08:58
mtholdensswell the 3d accelerator be standard in the nxt version of ubuntu cause i had trouble getting it working, i mean 3d switching from different desktops...08:58
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meatheadanyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder08:58
xfailKrakensDen, could you print a topic in a channel, not really used to sirc08:58
MorphDKKrakensDen, but why is it doing this? an error in the latest version?08:58
heavydrinkeri need to download thubuntu, ubuntu for thieves08:59
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natural20how do i open a debian package?08:59
mtholdenssmeathead ask the question dont ask to ask it cause thats pointless08:59
altigenand i use a machine with ip 192.168.10.225 (and gw 192.168.10.1) to ping 10.100.1.127 failed08:59
BHSPitLappynatural20, double clock on it?08:59
KrakensDenMorphDK, yup08:59
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: you need to be registered though (which you are not)08:59
KrakensDen!tell xfail about xorgbugfix08:59
KrakensDenMorphDK, bad testing :(08:59
Suplyndmndoh08:59
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MorphDKyeah.. too bad08:59
KrakensDenwell, s/bad testing/no testing08:59
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heavydrinkerare we graded for spelling in this channel?08:59
MorphDK:)08:59
ompaulheavydrinker, on09:00
natural20BHSPitLappy, double click opens with Archive Manager, says it can't read the file.  (breezy)09:00
KrakensDenheavydrinker, you are always graded for spelling09:00
altigenbut from 10.100.1.225 to 192.168.1.127 works~~09:00
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mtholdenssanyone here use the 3d feature of ubuntu09:00
daraknoraltigen, you can't send any 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x address over the internet routers09:00
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KrakensDenmtholdenss, yes09:00
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KrakensDenmtholdenss, you have a question? :)09:00
KrakensDenmtholdenss, if you want xgl, try #ubuntu-xgl09:00
mtholdenssdid u have a lot of trouble setting it up?09:00
KrakensDenmtholdenss, they're the real experts09:00
KrakensDennot really09:00
altigendaraknor: i just send them in a lan09:00
mtholdenssoh thanks much09:00
KrakensDeninstalled nvidia-glx09:00
KrakensDenand ran 1 (one) command to enable it09:01
KrakensDenI've heard ATI cards aren't as nice09:01
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altigenit seems a "sigle-side" ip forward09:01
KrakensDenbut intel cards are enabled by default09:01
meatheadhow do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents09:01
daraknoraltigen, so ping from 10.x works but from 192.x does not?  Are there VLANs, PPTP, VPN or any other strangeness? Do you have a firewall configured on any machine between 10.x and 192.x?09:01
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mtholdensswould it be a standard feature in the nxt ubuntu to pick up if u have the right hardware and auto install drivers and enable feature?09:02
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BHSPitLappylol09:02
meatheadhow do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents09:02
natural20so i have a deb and a tar.gz to install Opera on Breezy, but I don't know how to use 'em. Any help?09:02
altigendaraknor: there is no firewalls, thay are just to subnets connected with a ubuntu box i mentioned ~09:02
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altigendaraknor: and my iptables is empry~09:03
KrakensDenmtholdenss, well, it's complicated09:03
JoseStefannatura20, use the deb09:03
meatheadhow do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents09:03
JoseStefan!deb09:03
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)09:03
lastnodeis xorg broken for some reason? i just upgraded xorg-core and X died on me09:03
mtholdenssoh k, but didnt the xgl feaure come from suse ?09:03
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KrakensDenmtholdenss, from Novell, SuSe's parent company09:03
ompaullastnode,  /msg ubotu xorgbugfix09:03
KrakensDenmtholdenss, legal questions hold it back, mostly09:04
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SuplyndmndNickGarvey, It go through that time?09:04
lastnodethanks ompaul09:04
natural20josestefan, double click opens the deb with archive manager (breezy)  i don't know how to fix that09:04
aviswhen did people start having issues with xorg ?09:04
KrakensDenmtholdenss, basically, ati and nvidia have proprietary drivers09:04
PyroManiakAnyone know why VNC server hardlocks my system? Or know of a guide for doing remote X sessions with windows?09:04
LattywareHey, My PC has been crashing randomly, since I first booted it this morning.09:04
avisi have been ok.  i could not open thunderbird but i fixed that.09:04
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JoseStefannatura20, use:   sudo dpkg -i filename09:04
ompaulavalost, read the topci09:04
KrakensDenmtholdenss, which have hooks into the kernel09:04
mtholdenssoh k, legal questions?09:04
rixthHi there, I have a RAID1 setup (very new) I made it with mdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc.09:04
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ali1234PyroManiak: http://www.cdf.toronto.edu/workathome/index.php3?id=3309:04
KrakensDenmtholdenss, which is basically not GPL-compliant09:04
mtholdenssoh k09:05
KrakensDenmtholdenss, so ubuntu can't put them on their CD09:05
rixthI rebooted, now my raid array is gone, now can I get it back WITHOUT losing data?09:05
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ompaulavis, read the topic (international typo day)09:05
KrakensDenin my experience, though09:05
KrakensDen2D will work fine09:05
avisthank you ompaul09:05
KrakensDenand 3D is fairly straightforward09:05
KrakensDenyour mileage, as always, may vary09:05
LattywareI ran MemTest, thinking it sounded like a RAM problem, as it crashed at completelty different times, and that came up with 'Unexpected interrupt: 0000000f' (not sure on the number of 0's)09:05
mtholdenssoh cause theres both partys of companies involved so u have to do it manually09:05
fdsdhow do I Add the Universe repository?09:05
fdsdanyone know?09:05
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KrakensDenfdsd, you want to use a gui or the command line?09:05
fdsdcommand line09:05
ompaul!universe > fdsd09:06
lostincdo you have to download a pkg to downgrade xorg or is there a command to revert in apt?09:06
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NickGarvey!xorgbug > lostinc09:06
altigendaraknor: it seems i was dropped from irc.  so there is no firewall between the 2 subnets09:06
ompaulfdsd, have a look at the message the bot sent you09:06
avisty09:06
JoseStefanwow, ubotu supports pipes, lol09:06
chris449hi, i'm trying to make the kde/gnome decision and heard u can run them side by side, by using apt-get to install kde can i just choose either kde or gnome when i log in?09:06
meatheadhow do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents09:06
aviseveryone check the topic it will fix your system in one small step09:06
KrakensDenyup09:06
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avisreboot time09:06
KrakensDenchris449, yup09:06
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NickGarveyJoseStefan: (thats about it, factoid > username09:06
natural20dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:09:06
natural20 opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:09:06
natural20  Package libqt3-mt is not installed.09:06
natural20   How do i fix that?09:06
KrakensDenchris449, and apps work seamlessly between them09:06
chris449KrakensDen: thanks, u made my life easier09:07
daraknoraltigen, can you paste me the output of route -n from the router on a url or private message?09:07
KrakensDenchris449, apt-getting kubuntu-desktop would be better than KDE though09:07
ompaul!paste > natural2009:07
NickGarveynatural20: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt09:07
chris449thanks for help09:07
KrakensDenchris449, keep that in mind :)09:07
KrakensDenno problem09:07
daurn|laptophi all09:07
chris449KrakensDen: is it a smaller download? i'm very hard drive concious atm09:07
daurn|laptopi'm a noob to linux, and i want to install unbuntu09:07
daurn|laptopi've just booted the install cd09:07
KrakensDenchris449, no idea, but it will work better09:07
daurn|laptopand i'm going thorugh it09:07
LattywareMy PC is crashing at seemingly random times, soon after boot, but anywhere from GRUB to once I have my window manager running, I thought it sounded like a RAM problem, so I ran Memtest, which came up with 'Unexpected Interrupt:' then a load of 0s and an f at the end. Any help would be appreciated.09:07
JoseStefanNickGarvey, does breezy have that pkg ?09:08
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|skillet|is there a way to blacklist packages with synaptic09:08
chris449KrakensDen: lol fe09:08
chris449thanks for help09:08
KrakensDenLattyware, you have bad RAM09:08
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lastnodeLattyware: is your RAM loose? sometimes that used to happen to me, it was a faulty ram chip09:08
JoseStefan|skillet|, you could try locking the package09:08
NickGarveyJoseStefan: no idea at all, but I would think so because I don't think qt3 is the most recent09:08
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xfailthanks KrakensDen09:08
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runixdwhat happened to X ?09:08
KrakensDenLattyware, yourr life will be better if you swap it out for a new one09:08
|skillet|JoseStefan: locking the package?09:08
NickGarveyJoseStefan: but I could be very wrong :)09:08
JoseStefanNickGarvey, didnt you have a cmd just for that, earlier09:08
lastnode!xorgbug > runixd09:08
KrakensDenLattyware, or you could patch your kernel to work around it09:08
LattywareHeh, well there is that excuse for the Gig of RAM I wanted :/09:08
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lastnodeLattyware: it may just be a loose chip. take it out and fit it in more securely?09:09
NickGarvey!info libqt3-mt breezy09:09
ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), package size 3213 kB, installed size 9036 kB09:09
JoseStefan|skillet|, select package, click Package on the top menu, and click Lock Version09:09
NickGarveyJoseStefan: yup, its in breezy :)09:09
lastnodeNickGarvey: /msg ubotu please09:09
Lattywarelastnode: I will try that.09:09
fdsdanyone know?09:09
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lastnodeLattyware: good luck!09:09
runixdcan't the xorg update just be removed ?09:09
fdsdhow do I Add the Universe repository?09:09
LattywareThanks...09:09
|skillet|oh sweet09:09
KrakensDenfdsd, what?09:09
lastnoderunixd: /msg ubotu xorgbugfix09:09
haydenis there such a linux program that can read, write and edit visio files?09:09
NickGarveyfdoving: the bot has msged you several times09:09
|skillet|JoseStefan: thank you09:09
NickGarveyfdsd: : the bot has msged you several times09:09
lastnoderunixd: im just fixing it right now, you need to dl a deb and dpkg -i it09:09
NickGarveyfdoving: (sorry)09:09
JoseStefan|skillet|, np09:09
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DShepherdhow can i find out the bus speed of my ram installed?09:10
runixdlastnode, I just did, but thinking about all the other users now09:10
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fdsdNickGarvey, didnt get it09:10
|skillet|i love the linux comunity09:10
natural20all you dudes f#$%ing rock09:10
NickGarveyDShepherd: I think "cat /proc/meminfo" will do it09:10
lastnoderunixd: yeah there's sure to be an influx. :)09:10
JoseStefanDShepherd, memtest will display that information09:10
NickGarvey!universe > fdsd09:10
natural20i give each and every one of you a "good game" pat on the ass09:10
lostincok I am in a live CD if I do as ubotu says will it still work even if I am runnning in live cd09:10
meatheadhow do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents09:11
meatheadI take it no one here knows anything about iControlX or "Ubuntu Center"09:11
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fdsdNickGarvey, that link is not loading09:11
meatheadeerrr09:11
meatheadiCenter X09:11
lastnodemeathead: Ubuntu Center?09:11
NickGarveyfdsd: hmm... what is the link?09:11
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daraknorDShepherd, your BIOS should tell you09:11
JoseStefan!universe > me09:11
fdsdNickGarvey, how hard is it to tell me what to add to my config file?09:12
NickGarveyfdsd: I don't know, I don't use ubuntu09:12
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DShepherdJoseStefan, daraknor any way to find out booted up in ubuntu09:12
NickGarveyfdsd: how hard is it to read the webpage?09:12
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DShepherdNickGarvey: nothing there.09:12
fdsdNickGarvey, very if it doesnt load09:12
NickGarveyfdsd: or copy and paste the webpage so I can copy and paste the command09:12
lostincdoes this Xorg thing effect other distros like Xubuntu?09:12
NickGarveyDShepherd: mm.. try sudo09:12
meatheadlastnode: ubuntu center, web based page with torrent support, images, music, calendar...09:12
meatheadnow called icontrox09:12
Flannelfdsd: what to add (also which mirror), where to add, what to do after you add it.09:12
swarmanyone know how to disable the OSD lock on viewsonic e90?09:12
meatheaderr09:12
meatheadI keep tying that09:13
meatheadiCenter X09:13
meatheadicenterx.info09:13
DShepherdNickGarvey: huh??? try sudo?09:13
NickGarveyDShepherd: "sudo cat /proc/meminfo"09:13
fdsd!universe > NickGarvey09:13
JoseStefanfdsd, you can try synaptic09:13
fdsdIM ON THE COMMAND LINE09:13
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ompaul!shout09:14
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.09:14
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Flannelfdsd: calm down there.  Go to your sources.list, uncomment the universe lines.  Or, add them to the end of your current ones.09:14
lastnodeguys, what's the command to regenerate my xorg.conf?09:14
mcrandellofdsd: dselect09:14
JoseStefanfdsd, can i msg you?09:14
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fdsdFlannel, I did that, it still cant find the package squashfs-tools09:14
NickGarveyfdsd: I am pretty sure the sources.list file has it all in there, just commented out09:14
DShepherdNickGarvey: it shows nothing different.. were you serious?09:14
fdsdsure09:14
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Flannelfdsd: did you apt-get update after adding them?09:14
NickGarveyDShepherd: mm.. works on mine, but I run suse so no idea09:14
fdsdFlannel, nope09:14
Flannelfdsd: that's your problem then09:15
mcrandellohave to update09:15
DShepherdNickGarvey: what option should i be looking for..09:15
KrakensDen!tell lastnode about xorgbugfix09:15
fdsdFlannel, thank you09:15
natural20ok.  I still can't access yahoo groups pages on breezy using opera, epiphany, or firefox.  ideas?09:15
KrakensDenlastnode, that may be what you're looking for ;)09:15
ompaulfdsd, did you do sudo apt-get update after you altered the sources list?09:15
NickGarveyDShepherd: might not work in ubuntu, not sure, might need to be compiled into the kernel09:15
DShepherdNickGarvey: k09:15
fdsdompaul, worked09:16
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ompaulfdsd, great09:16
KrakensDenoh wow09:16
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KrakensDenit's past midnight?09:16
rixthHi there, I have a RAID1 setup (very new) I made it with mdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc. I rebooted, now my raid array is gone, how can I get it back WITHOUT losing data?09:16
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heavydrinkerRumsfeld has all the Yahoo Adult channels shut down09:16
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ompaulKrakensDen, it is always past midnight, it is just a mater of scale09:17
JoseStefanNickGarvey, i don't see bus speed on my /proc/meminfo09:17
NickGarveyheavydrinker: offtopic please :) (I'd like to hear more about that)09:17
daraknormeminfo won't show memory speed, I checked on my machine. Not something that kernel really has access to. The memory speed isn't necessary to expose to drivers since it is all about cache timings09:17
NickGarveyJoseStefan: ubuntu probably doesn't have it compiled in09:17
NickGarveyJoseStefan: although.. looking over that.. I don't see speed either..09:17
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sethkDShepherd, there is info in /sys that might help you find the memory bus speeds09:18
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msoulFlannel: what was the channel you suggested earlier09:18
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msoulubuntu-oftopic or something09:18
LuxuriousI cannot, for saving my life, figure out a way to turn reverse DNS mapping off for my SSH.  Does anyone know how to?09:19
sethkmsoul, ubuntu-offtopic09:19
msoulah okie09:19
msoulthanks09:19
DShepherdsethk: ok.. let me take a lok09:19
sethkLuxurious, no, and I've looked extensively09:19
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sethkDShepherd, start with /sys/class/mem09:19
LuxuriousDid you have this problem sethk: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-37233.html09:19
DShepherdsethk: ok09:19
daraknorLuxurious, check with syslog. Syslog is doing the lookup I think.09:20
Luxuriousdaraknor: 1.  how?  2. on the SSH server or the client machine?09:20
elhaxxorzno flames please, has anyone found an AMD64 module for the infamous SB Live! 24-bit (CA106 chipset) PCI sound card?09:21
daraknorLuxurious, are you getting the 30 second delay on login issue?09:21
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sethkdaraknor, syslog might do a lookup, but the lookup also occurs in the absence of syslog09:21
Luxuriousdaraknor: No, I'm getting a delay on login and "Closed by remote host"09:21
NickGarveyelhaxxorz: have you read !sound?09:21
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DShepherdsethk: doesnt seem to be anything useful there,,09:21
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swarm!sound09:22
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems09:22
elhaxxorz!sound09:22
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swarm!sound > swarm09:22
daraknorDShepherd, BIOS is the only place to check I'm pretty sure. I looked before too.09:22
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sethkDShepherd, probably isn't for all architectures.   you might look around elsewhere in /sys, but that's the most likely place to find it09:22
chris86wmim trying to add wifi-radar to a gdesklet. i cant figure out the command to make it launch though, any help?09:22
DShepherdsethk: ok09:22
Four23619i heard that Automatix can break one's Ubuntu install? is this true? and if so, what will it break?09:22
swarm!sound > elhaxxorz09:22
heavydrinkereunichs is hard09:22
LuxuriousThis problem seems freakin' unsolvable.09:23
NickGarveyFour23619: I suggest easyubuntu09:23
LuxuriousI wonder how many days I must be at it to get my bloody SSH working.09:23
orbishi hope it doesn't break one's ubuntu, it's installing as we speak09:23
heavydrinkereunuchs *09:23
FlannelFour23619: yes, it can break an installation.  And, it breaks everything.  Its nearly impossible to fix.  Easier to reinstall.09:23
mcrandellodoes powernowd do anything other than load up the cpu frequency scaling stuff/09:23
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DShepherddaraknor: ok.. i do that afterwards. i just wanted to know if there's a way to find out in linux09:23
Four23619i used to use EasyUbuntu, but i get "fix broken packages" first09:23
FlannelLuxurious: what problems you having?09:23
heavydrinkerdamnit*09:23
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NickGarveyFour23619: then do so, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f09:24
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sethkLuxurious, other than the reverse lookup, which is an annoying delay at times but doesn't stop it from working, it works very well for me09:24
LuxuriousFlannel: http://pastey.net/35209:24
daraknorLuxurious, the logging application is klogd. Try google on klogd and reverse dns09:24
JoseStefanlaunchpad still down right?09:24
sethkLuxurious, fix reverse dns so the lookup doesn't fail09:24
LuxuriousHmmm... and now I'm not even sure this problem is DNS09:24
NickGarveyJoseStefan: I heard it was up09:24
ompaulJoseStefan, no09:25
daraknorLuxurious, you could just put a static hosts entry for known IP addresses09:25
LuxuriousI had a reverse DNS problem with FTP, but that worked eventually though.09:25
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JoseStefanok, bad browser setting09:25
drh_hi can anyone tell me why this apt-get command is failing?09:25
orbishdrh_: using sudo apt-get?09:26
LuxuriousI don't know the hostname daraknor.09:26
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dan_I need to downgrade libio-socket-ssl-perl to version 0.96 (currently 0.97) to make SSL works with popfile but I can't figure how...09:26
drh_orbish: aye09:26
daraknorLuxurious, you can just make one up so the IP addy resolves to *any* name09:26
rixthWhere can I find a software raid tutorial for ubuntu? The trigger !raid does not hep.09:26
rixthhelp, even09:26
ali1234is 6 hours an unreasonably long time for a kernel compile on a pentium 3? it's still going as well...09:26
drh_orbish: I can cut&paste the message if it will help09:26
DShepherddrh_: sudo apt-get install packge=version09:26
orbishdrh_: sure09:27
NickGarveyrixth: why do the links not work?09:27
drh_The following packages have unmet dependencies: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed09:27
LuxuriousHoly wtf09:27
drh_E: Broken packages09:27
LuxuriousThis works using putty on my Winbox09:27
JoseStefanshould i worry that ubuntu still doesnt have PHP 5.1.5 nor the most recent version of apache2 ?09:27
K^Holtzis there a reason why my clock seems to run fast all the time? i always have to readjust it because its about 5 minutes fast09:27
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NickGarveyLuxurious: what doesn't work?09:27
Luxuriousit's the mac09:27
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopSo whats the deal with the whole xorg bug thing I saw mentioned on the forums?09:27
rixthNickGarvey, the information there is not relevant.09:27
NickGarveyJoseStefan: no, perhaps it hasn't been tested yet09:27
drh_DSheperd: If i do =2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2 will that do it?09:27
NickGarveyGiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: do NOT update or things will break09:27
Luxurious NickGarvey: my ssh http://pastey.net/35209:27
sethkK^Holtz, that's a function of the hardware, not the o/s09:27
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptophaha09:27
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptoplovely09:27
sethkK^Holtz, you can run ntpupdate to fix it.  run it periodically in cron09:28
LuxuriousNickGarvey: But now that seems only to be my mac.09:28
JoseStefan!xorgbug > GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop09:28
ompaulGiGaHuRtZ|Laptop, ,  /msg ubotu xorgbugfix09:28
pfmmaassomeone aware of problems after updating xorg?09:28
DShepherddrh_: sudo apt-get install package=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2 will install that version. is that what you want to do?09:28
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopLuxurious: i would have prefered you not have done that, but ok09:28
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ompaulpfmmaas, /msg ubotu xorgbugfix09:28
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drh_DSheperd: well i want libfreetype6-dev installed09:28
nrdbThis morning there was an update for the xserver which I installed, now my computer won't start gnome.  I did a "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver" and it hasn't helped, can anyone help? :(09:28
DShepherddrh_: from your message you seem you want to upgrade.. not downgrade.. but I am not sure09:28
orbishdrh_: sudo apt-get libfreetype6-dev09:28
NickGarveyLuxurious: wow I have no idea at all..09:28
rixthNickGarvey, reponse?09:28
orbishthat should fix the dependency problem09:28
NickGarveyLuxurious: I have messed up that kind of stuff a lot but never gotten taht09:29
ompaulnrdb, /msg ubotu xorgbugfix09:29
drh_orbish: thats what I type and I get the response I posted09:29
orbishoh ok.. hmm09:29
LuxuriousGiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: hah, done what?09:29
NickGarveyrixth: I know nothing about raid, I was just wondering if something needed updating09:29
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NickGarveyrixth: sorry about that09:29
nrdbompaul: nothing happened.09:29
rixthOk =)09:29
LuxuriousNickGarvey: This seems to be my Mac's problem now, not the server.09:29
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopLuxurious: had the bot /msg me09:29
JoseStefansupport people, i suggest not pointing to the xorg i386 solution, not everyone has the same platform, use the generic one instead09:29
NickGarveyorbish: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6-dev you mean09:29
orbishyes sir09:30
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drh_DShepherd: Hrm well it is saying libfreetyp6-dev depends on libfreetype6 = 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.209:30
daraknorLuxurious, possibly, but make sure the mac's IP address is registered somehow on the server.09:30
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LuxuriousGiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: I did?09:30
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NickGarveyJoseStefan: which is the generic?09:30
sethkJoseStefan, that's a good point09:30
DShepherddrh_: apt-cache policy libfreetype6 #what does that tell you09:30
JoseStefanplain "xorgbug"09:30
ompaulnrdb u need to register, it says this:  wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb09:30
NickGarvey:)09:30
drh_DShepherd: but i have 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.09:30
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopLuxurious: oh woops, im tired and read the wrong line, it was someone else09:30
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptopheh09:30
ompaul!register09:30
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:30
johnnybezakdo newish laptops use special ram or just standard sticks?09:30
orbishdrh_: i don't know... i'm sure someone else can help... i'm not that experienced yet09:30
DShepherddrh_: yeah i know09:30
nrdbnrdb,/msg ubuntu xorgbugfix09:30
LuxuriousTeehee09:30
drh_DSheperd: ok should I cut&paste the reposone here?09:31
ne3roim newbie here..i have a problem. when i run ubuntu live cd i only see a cursor and a brownish screen. nothing else on the screen.wats wrong?09:31
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DShepherddrh_: no pastebin is better, know where to find it?09:31
johnnybezakne3ro: x is not working properly09:31
NickGarveyFour23619: are you there? I just realized something that could break your system09:31
JoseStefanxorgbugfix only shows the i386 fix09:31
NickGarveyFour23619: do NOT update/upgrade, I repeat do NOT09:31
Four23619im here09:31
LuxuriousOkay so I changed my /etc/hosts file, gonna try that first.  Any idea how I restart the stuff for it to work?09:31
LuxuriousI remember it was a "killall" command.09:31
orbishNickGarvey: what happens if you do? i'm running automattix as we speak09:31
NickGarveyFour23619: theres a bug that I expect will be fixed in the near future09:32
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopYa no, i would have thought a bugfix would have made it upstream by now....09:32
NickGarveyorbish: X is breaking all over the place09:32
ne3rohow to fix that, johnnybezak?09:32
drh_DShepherd: http://pastebin.com/77305609:32
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Four23619ooo09:32
NickGarveyorbish: and use easyubuntu instead09:32
drh_orbish: thanks anyway :)09:32
kolla|wrkHello everyone09:32
NickGarveyorbish: ;)09:32
Four23619i installed an X update of some sort today09:32
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NickGarveyFour23619: do NOT turn off your computer if you are not comfortable wit hcommand line09:32
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orbishNickGarvey: well i'm expecting it to, it's happened before after easyubuntu or automatix, and i forgot which... i fixed it then... will be easier this time09:32
orbishi think it corrupts your font files09:33
LuxuriousThanks for the help guys.09:33
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GiGaHuRtZ|Laptopoh no! not the CLI09:33
johnnybezakne3ro: umm, hard to tell i don't use live cd's all that much. what do you want to do with the live cd?09:33
LuxuriousI'll look better into this later.09:33
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptophehe09:33
DShepherdsudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu209:33
NickGarveyGiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: heh, you'd be surprised about how much it scares some people09:33
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptopi know ;)09:33
DShepherddrh_: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu209:33
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GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopI'm in CLI right now, IRSSI :D09:34
DShepherddrh_: that should install the version you want09:34
NickGarvey:)09:34
swarmcommand line is fun =)09:34
JoseStefanthe xorg error, does not hard lock my PC, but it sure doesnt look pretty, nothing clear cant fix :P09:34
kolla|wrkIm thinking of installing ubuntu on my future laptop, though i'm not sure does the "free program download" utility has the programs i need. Is there anywhere i can see them?09:34
swarmdos was fun :)09:34
DShepherddrh_: oh..09:34
DShepherddrh wait..09:34
heavydrinkeri cut n' paste every command that goes thriugh the channel09:34
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptopdos was horrid, no tab completion09:34
Flannelkolla|wrk: free program download?09:34
drh_DShepherd: Yeah I said no :)09:34
kolla|wrkthere is some text on the website "Need more software? You can choose from hundreds of software packages in the Ubuntu software catalogue, all available to download and install with the click of a button. And it's all completely free."09:34
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drh_DShepherd: It would uninstall over 222 packages09:34
Flannelkolla|wrk: ah, the repositories?  You can check at packages.ubuntu.com09:35
JoseStefananyone know how to make xorg errors prettier, mine usually have a weird font and are all garbled up09:35
DShepherddrh_: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.209:35
kolla|wrkok thanks09:35
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morzelhi09:35
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morzelhow can i downgrade X aftert the today's update?09:35
NickGarveymorzel: hello :)09:35
NickGarvey!xorgbugfix > morzel09:35
ne3rojohhnybezak>i just wanna try the live cd. nothing important..09:35
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drh_DShepherd: I'm wondering if the package is just broken?  That would uninstall over 222 packages too09:35
swarmanyone know of any load balancing software? for people with multiple internet connections?09:35
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orbishkolla|wrk: it installs open-source software, don't expect adobe photoshop to be in there, but they have good replacements for programs you're used to, gimp would be a photoshop replacement app09:35
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NickGarveymorzel: that assumes you use a 32 bit..09:35
DShepherddrh_: oh..I am not sure if that's a good thing09:35
drh_DShepherd: I think libfreetype6-dev is just a broken package09:36
johnnybezakne3ro: ok, i'm not sure :)09:36
kolla|wrkorbish, yea i know.. Thats obvious, im just interested which programs will be..09:36
DShepherddrh_: maybe... who knows.. but thats how you can downgrade if you feel the need09:36
kolla|wrkorbish, what would be replacement for corel draw?09:36
KrakensDenwhat are the symptoms of the broken X package?09:36
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mcrandellokolla|wrk: inkscape09:36
drh_DShephered: OK, thanks09:36
JoseStefanKrakensDen, X wont start after reboot09:36
mcrandellookay PPP is only really neccesary for dialup, right?09:37
rapiercan anyone look at my iptables-save and tell my why my port forwarding isn't working? http://pastebin.com/77305709:37
Flannelmcrandello: rigt09:37
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DShepherddrh_: np09:37
mcrandelloFlannel: thanks, now to find which script is loading the modem module09:37
KrakensDenJoseStefan, right, is it an 'IO error'? Because I'm talking to someone who swears he's installed the fix09:37
KrakensDenJoseStefan, but he still can't get up and running09:37
deeowow.  can't believe this flaming bug, i literally installed dapper *clean* ONE day ago, and on my SECOND dist upgrade, X breaks.09:37
KrakensDenlook at the topic09:37
kolla|wrkmcrandello, you've used inkscape on ubuntu?09:38
KrakensDenthe maintainers made a boo-boo09:38
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deeowhy, the bot gave me the url.09:38
Flannelkolla|wrk: yep09:38
NickGarveydeeo: yeah, big mess up09:38
KrakensDenthat too :P09:38
KrakensDensorry09:38
johnnybezakwow what a f*ck up :P09:38
SillyZmornin, debatin on how to get xubuntu installed here... latpop installation, no cdrom drive... Ive seen the documentation on a cdrom/networkless installation although have played with the partitioning tool and it will not move data on an ntfs partition, it will resize it but wont move it ... any thoughts?09:38
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mcrandellokolla|wrk: used it a bit on win32 a while back, practically the same program both places09:38
JoseStefanKrakensDen, X will complain about not finding a screen09:38
Vide80hi, what's the best channel for a ubuntu server related question?09:38
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KrakensDenJoseStefan, thanks09:39
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FlannelVide80: here09:39
kolla|wrkSo it's not that different from the corel draw, right? Im just wondering is this thing worth the effort, because everything is working fine under windows, but you know.. People want changes sometimes in their life.09:39
KrakensDen?09:39
Vide80ok, so here we go09:39
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Anubuntuhello09:39
rapieram i asking a really difficult question or am i being too vague? why does everyone always ignore me? :P09:39
KrakensDenargh09:39
Flannelkolla|wrk: you can install inkscape on windows, if you want to try it out.  Is corel draw bitmap or vector based stuff?09:39
Madpilotkolla|wrk, inkscape has a Windows port too, if you want to try it out before installing Ubuntu09:39
KrakensDenmy touchpad is twitching out09:39
Vide80I have a ubuntu server hanging on the starting kernel event manager step09:39
orbishare there any IRC clients that will work in terminal? i'm expecting tons of errors on my next reboot09:39
kolla|wrkflanel , thats what im going to do right now :p09:39
Vide80it simply stays there forever09:39
KrakensDenorbish, irssi09:39
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Flannelorbish: irssi is installed by default09:39
mcrandellokolla|wrk: afaik it's like inkscap is to Draw as the gimp is to photoshop09:39
KrakensDenorbish, installed by default09:39
kolla|wrkflannel, its for vector based stuff09:39
NickGarveyorbish: irssi/bitchx (irssi is my personal favorite)09:40
orbishthanks guys09:40
Flannelkolla|wrk: yeah, then inkscape is the replacement09:40
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Flannelkolla|wrk: it won't be exactly the same, obviously, but it does the same thing09:40
GiGaHuRtZ|LaptopIRSSI > IRCII>BitchX09:40
Vide80until you CTRL+C, but then hangs on portmap service and finally (after another ctrl+c) hangs on kernel logger09:40
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deeorapier i'd help but i can't get X running atm, and i don't feel too keen on typing that url out in links09:40
deeobut if you give me a few minutes...09:40
nrdbI am having trouble with the xserver I just downgraded to the older version now I get an error message "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory"09:40
mcrandellokolla|wrk: there was a KDE project called Karbon14 I think they renamed it but I forget to what :(09:40
orbishi'm going to need a replacement for Freehand, before i make a 100% switch... ideas?09:40
NickGarveydeeo: get "gpm", you can use your mouse to copy and paste09:40
Vide80i have no way to debug, it hangs even on safe mode09:40
JoseStefan!xorgbug > deeo09:40
mcrandellokolla|wrk: also a draw type program09:40
AnubuntuI did something really really really extraordinarily stupid. I was editing my partitions. and I ended up formatting the wrong one via ubuntu disk management.  At the moment I am booted into SLAX. The problem is, the one I formatted was my ubuntu partition. thus killing my bootloader and linux at the same time09:41
Anubuntunow I have most of my stuff backed up, so normally I would just reinstall09:41
Morrowynis there something like a linux api for linux, like there is a win32/fx api for windows ?09:41
kolla|wrkmcrandello, oki.. I'l check this inkspace.. Im just abit worried that my boss wont be able to open files :D09:41
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kolla|wrki'd dont want that to happen, lol09:41
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NickGarveyAnubuntu: why don't you then?09:41
mcrandelloMorrowyn: POSIX I think09:41
Flannelkolla|wrk: believe it can export/save as most filetypes09:41
Anubuntubut there is one file, a small text file, that I need back, now I know that it didnt completly wipe the drive, so I am hoping to be able to restore some if not all of it09:41
KrakensDenMorrowyn, sort of09:41
KrakensDenMorrowyn, there is posix, but that's system level09:42
NickGarveyAnubuntu: ah, read this09:42
heavydrinkeri need to hit the god damned sack... ( and boot back into idiot mode)...  night all09:42
NickGarveyAnubuntu: well actually09:42
Anubuntuif all isnt possible, I definitly need the text file. it has a number I need for tommorrow09:42
NickGarveyAnubuntu: use a live cd and mount your hard drive09:42
KrakensDenMorrowyn, for gui programming... there are 10 thousand09:42
kolla|wrkThere comes another question around, since i've not actually used anything besides win, is ubuntu good for beginners? It looks really friendly right now..09:42
KrakensDenMorrowyn, XLib is the real low-level one, painful to use and hardly anyone does09:42
SillyZhow large of a partition should one make for xubuntu/ubuntu ? ( ie : / or root )09:42
kolla|wrkAtleast the web developer has done his job very well :p09:42
KrakensDenMorrowyn, most people use GTK or QT09:42
GiGaHuRtZ|Laptopweird, I just noticed that my wifi blinky light on my E1505 actually blinks in linux and not windows, weird...09:42
mcrandellokolla|wrk: it is probably the most beginner freindly one out there atm09:42
NickGarveySillyZ: um.. are you asking the minimum?09:42
MadpilotSillyZ, for Ubuntu, at least 2Gb; 5GB or more is recommended. Not sure about Xubuntu.09:43
SillyZNickGarvey, average size aprox09:43
kolla|wrkmcrandello, ok cool.09:43
kolla|wrkthanks09:43
protocol1is there like a package that will allow me to use all streaming media types that I can download?09:43
orbishkolla|wrk: on top of that, it has a nice community that will help you out when you run into problems09:43
AnubuntuNickGarvey, actually, I am in a live boot (SLAX) but it sees only the new file system. I am hoping to recover the old one, or to  recover some files from it09:43
SillyZNickGarvey, say 5gb?09:43
deeo!xorgbug > JoseStefan09:43
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deeoteehee09:43
deeopayback baby.09:43
mcrandellokolla|wrk: of course I reccomend getting the kubuntu livecd :)09:43
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NickGarveySillyZ: that sohuld do it for a minimun install fine09:43
JoseStefandeeo, i though yuo needed help with X ?09:43
kolla|wrkmcrandello, why's that?09:43
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NickGarveySillyZ: and that was horrible spelling09:44
lassegsgood morning ppl09:44
NickGarveyAnubuntu: oh.. so you are saying you deleted it but you are trying to recover it?09:44
SillyZNickGarvey, hehe spellchunker = off;09:44
kolla|wrkmcrandello, there's some good manuals, right?09:44
morzelNickGarvey: thanks for help09:44
mcrandellokolla|wrk: I'm more of a KDE person myself09:44
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Morrowynwell suppose i want to write a gui application but also want to use the system stuff, does gtk or qt support that?09:44
NickGarveymorzel: :)09:44
Anubuntunickgarvey, formatted it, but not a full format (it didnt take long enough to have wiped the whole partition)09:44
SillyZThanks NickGarvey09:44
nrdbI have just downgraded the xserver package, and now I am getting an error message "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory" :( can anyone help?09:44
Madpilotkolla|wrk, the onboard help is OK, and there's help.ubuntu.com for more09:44
orbishkubuntu was nothing but problems for me, i stuck with ubuntu09:44
NickGarveyAnubuntu: oh boy.. um.. yeah thats not something I know how to do09:44
mcrandellokolla|wrk: also the ubuntu forums, this channel on irc and #kubuntu as well09:44
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TeltariatGreets folks...09:45
JoseStefannrdb, to which version did you downgrade?09:45
AnubuntuNickGarvey, I had a program to do it in windows... looking for one that can do it with linux...09:45
KrakensDenMorrowyn, of course :P09:45
orbishanubuntu: there are programs on windows that will let you look at deleted data09:45
nrdbJoseStefan: the one recommended 1.0.209:45
orbishnot sure if it will see your file systemt hough09:45
KrakensDenMorrowyn, if you want to port it to windows, QT would be a better choice09:45
kolla|wrkok thanks again guys09:46
Anubuntuorbish, yes, but I cant boot to windows, and its an ext3 file system09:46
KrakensDenMorrowyn, otherwise the two are fairly similar09:46
orbishno prob kolla09:46
JoseStefannrdb, there are at lest three different revisions of 1.0.209:46
JoseStefanleast*09:46
AnubuntuI should also mention, that I NEEED this text file by tommorrow, it contains some important contact information09:46
KrakensDenMorrowyn, what programming language are you looking at?09:46
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mtholdensshey does ubuntu now have the mac expose feature that most linux distros have?09:46
AnubuntuI am screwed without it.09:46
KrakensDen0o09:46
Morrowynwell i was just wondering ( c++ )09:46
KrakensDen'most'?09:46
orbishAnubuntu: what i would do then is take out the drive, and put it in another machine that is running, set it as slave or whatever, and use a partition magic, or one of those programs that allows you to retrieve deleted data09:47
nrdbJoseStefan: xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb09:47
KrakensDenMorrowyn, most of the system level stuff should be the same- except case sensitive and we use a slash instead of a backslash09:47
NickGarveyMorrowyn: "glade" will do gtk gui09:47
Morrowyni know when devving on windows, you can use thw inw32 api to exploit certain windows stuff, which is really nice, i was wondering if linux had the equivalent09:47
KrakensDenMorrowyn, and there is no registry09:47
JoseStefannrdb: ok, looks good09:47
Anubuntuorbish, only other machine in this house is a mac09:47
orbishhmm09:47
Anubuntuorbish, and I NEEED it by tommorrow.09:47
nrdbJoseStefan: not from here09:47
Anubuntuit could cost me a lot of trouble if I dont09:48
KrakensDenMorrowyn, what is the functionality you want?09:48
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Morrowynthreading, sockets09:48
KrakensDenah09:48
orbishAnubuntu: looking up software sit tight09:48
Morrowynasync coding functions09:48
KrakensDenthat's POSIX-level09:48
Anubuntuorbish, thank you so much09:48
orbishAnubuntu: what file system was it deleted from?09:48
KrakensDenand that will be the same no matter what GUI toolkit you use09:49
Anubuntuext309:49
SillyZNickGarvey, heres my delima, have a 100gb drive split 20/80 both ntfs partitions.... the paritioning tool in ubuntu will resize an ntfs partition but wont allow it to be moved, so its either move all the data off the 80gb partition, make the linux partition and then re-create the whats left over partition, or just slam linux into a 10gb partition on the end of the 80 gb partition09:49
JoseStefannrdb, it is possible you might need to reconfigure the xserver, but it may not be releated to the xserver at all09:49
Morrowynso what lib do i need to use for it on linux?09:49
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nrdbJoseStefan: I have allready done a reconfigure of "xserver-xorg"09:49
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Anubuntuanubuntu: I think... well it was whatever dapper drake defaults to. it was a rather fresh install09:49
JoseStefannrdb, are there any wacom specific packages you could try re-installing ?09:50
asabilMorrowyn, what are you looking for09:50
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orbishhttp://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm09:50
NickGarveySillyZ: and the 20 gb is your OS?09:50
scheurihello all09:50
daurn|laptophey09:50
asabilMorrowyn, I think i can help with async IO09:50
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nrdbJoseStefan: I don't know what wacom is do you?09:50
NickGarveySillyZ: for xp?09:50
daurn|laptopi need some help09:50
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orbishthere is a shareware version you can download... not sure if it will do what you need it to though09:50
daurn|laptopis there somewhere less crowded?09:50
orbishif it's that important, you can buy the software...09:50
Anubuntuick09:50
KrakensDen#include <pthread.h>09:50
JoseStefannrdb, wacom is a tablet input thingy i thing, i thought you had one09:50
Anubuntuits probably for windows..09:50
orbishi'll continue to look09:50
scheuridaurn|laptop: just ask and we try to help...:)09:51
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KenSentMedaurn|laptop: just ask your question here, the more people, the bigger the change you get an answer09:51
daurn|laptopwell, i need to mount a partition, but when i do, it says i don't have the permission to access it09:51
Anubuntuthats the proggie I had on windows that I cant boot09:51
nrdbJoseStefan: nope!09:51
NickGarveydaurn|laptop: try sudo09:51
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daurn|laptopKenSentMe: but i get lost in the backlog09:51
rapier2how can i test whether or not a port is open?09:51
LattywareUgh, ok.09:51
Morrowynhttp://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html  Anubuntu dunno if this is any good09:51
rapier2or rather being forwarded to another machine09:51
daurn|laptopNickGarvey: it gets mounted, but i can't browse to it09:51
Morrowynbut worth a read i guess09:51
SillyZ20gb for Win2k, 80gb storage, apps, etc09:51
JoseStefannrdb, that is very weird, did you try googleing it ?09:51
Morrowyndaurn|laptop, permission arent set properly09:51
marielo all. I am trying to get ubuntu and my nvidia card working together but I seem to be having issues.  I have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common packages and I have run nvidia-xconfig but X will not start if the driver in xorg.conf for the video card is "nvidia"  it will however start if I use "vesa".  Anyone have any ideas?09:51
LattywareI took out my ram, put it back in, and it hasn't crashed, but now, X won't start09:51
Anubuntuorbish: AARRRRG, windows....09:51
daurn|laptop"sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage"09:51
LattywareI get an error 'No Screens'09:51
SillyZjust a lil concerned bout performance being all the out on the tail end of the drive09:52
daurn|laptophow do i let anyone access it?09:52
mcrandelloAnubuntu: testdisk09:52
mcrandelloit has saved my ass before09:52
LattywareThe config file is fine.09:52
KenSentMemarie: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any errors09:52
KrakensDenMorrowyn, pthread.h09:52
Anubuntumcrandello, testdisk?09:52
mcrandellohttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk09:52
nrdbJoseStefan: no, I got the error as soon as I downgraded, I thought it would be easy to get rid off.09:52
Morrowyndaurn|laptop, try   sudo mount -o uid = <yourid> /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage09:52
KrakensDenMorrowyn, for threading09:52
orbishhttp://mac.softpedia.com/get/Security/Xclean.shtml09:52
NickGarveydaurn|laptop: try "mount -o users /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage09:52
daurn|laptop<your id>09:52
daurn|laptop?09:52
MorrowynKrakensDen, thanks, ill look into that09:52
NickGarveydaurn|laptop: (with sudo)09:52
KrakensDenMorrowyn, if you look for any basic linux C++ tutorials09:52
mcrandelloif it's simply a deleted partition it may be able to recover it outright09:52
meathead_marie: video card documentation is HUGE on the forums, search there for your model number and you'll probably get step by step instructions09:52
Morrowyndaurn|laptop, type: on the console:   id09:52
KrakensDenMorrowyn, they should have what you're looking ofr09:52
KrakensDenfor09:52
scheuridaurn|laptop: you user has an ID...09:52
orbishAnubuntu: shareware for the mac... best thing i could find09:53
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KrakensDenMorrowyn, or UNIX, for that matter09:53
KrakensDenMorrowyn, or Mac C++09:53
KrakensDenMorrowyn, well, OS X C++09:53
Morrowyn:) ok09:53
Morrowynpthreads09:53
mariemeathead_, this apears in the file but doesnt make much sense as my card is PCI not ISA.... (II) Primary Device is: ISA (EE) No devices detected."09:53
daurn|laptopNickGarvey: i get error when browing: "You do not have the permissionns necessay to view the contents of "Storage"09:53
Morrowynand for sockets, you happen to know?09:53
NickGarveydaurn|laptop: even when you do that?09:53
mariemeathead_, following step by step instructions is how I've gotten here :)09:53
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KrakensDennot off the top of my head09:54
LattywareI had a problem with RAM, got a Memtest error, so I asked here, and was reccommended to re-seat the RAM, which I did, now X will not start with a 'No Screens' error. The config file is fine.09:54
mcrandelloAnubuntu: See if it isn't already on the slax disc if not I remember either knoppix or bartpe came with it09:54
KrakensDenbut it came from Unix09:54
JoseStefannrdb, try searching the ubuntuforums09:54
NickGarveyactually, whats the command to see what user ID you are?  I know you can "cat /etc/passwd | grep $USER", but is there a way you don't need root?09:54
Anubuntuorbish: mac is useless considering its an imac, and cant open it up09:54
daurn|laptopscheuri: how do i find my users id?09:54
KrakensDenso I would imagine it's fairly basic :P09:54
orbishdamn09:54
NickGarvey!xorgbug > Lattyware09:54
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macdhas anyone had an issue with todays xserver-xorg upgrade?09:54
Anubuntuorbish, but i am going to try mcrandello's link, hopefully it will install with slax bootable09:54
NickGarvey!xorgbug > macd09:54
macdit didnt ask but replaced my xorg.0.conf09:54
macdthx.09:54
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KrakensDenmacd, yes09:54
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Lattywareah, coincedence.09:54
scheuridaurn|laptop: as Morrowyn suggested...type "id" in your console09:54
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LattywareThanks.09:54
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orbishAnubuntu, alright, good luck09:54
scheuridaurn|laptop: the number with your username in () is your username-ID09:55
Morrowyndaurn|laptop, type in "id"  on the command lline and then you see something like uid=anumber (yourusername)09:55
dibblegocan I open a nautilus window with the directory of a terminal?09:55
Morrowynuse09:55
daurn|laptopok09:55
NickGarveyah, id09:55
NickGarveynice09:55
daurn|laptopnow i get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock"09:55
Morrowynthat anumber in  sudo mount -o uid=anumber  /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage09:55
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daurn|laptopits 100009:55
daurn|laptop:P09:55
Morrowyn-t ntfs09:55
scheuriI am wondering how many people asked here because of their broken xserver-xorg-core....;)09:55
Morrowynif its a windows partitition09:55
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JoseStefandibblego, you can open a terminal from a nautilus window :D   never down it the other way around09:56
KrakensDenscheuri, lots09:56
orbishi'm in the process of breaking mine, i'll be back once automatix is done09:56
daurn|laptopMorrowyn: still same error09:56
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SillyZNickGarvey, I think ill just do a 20gb partition on the tail end of the 80gb drive and call it good, should be more than enough room for unbuntu/xubuntu and still room to grow a bit09:56
LattywareNow I have to somehow run up and downstairs trying to type that in, fun fun fun!09:56
daurn|laptopdoes ubuntu COME with KVirc?09:56
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mcrandellowait, there's a new xserver?09:56
scheuriKrakensDen: can imaging...had the same problem...was quite shocked this morning...however, there is a good post in the forums09:56
mcrandelloruh roh09:56
NickGarveySillyZ: yeah, and you should be able to resize the ntfs end part right?09:56
Morrowynsudo apt-get install kvirc , perhaps?09:57
NickGarveySillyZ: (AFTER you defrag)09:57
NickGarveymcrandello: no09:57
Morrowynit comes with xchat on default09:57
NickGarveymcrandello: do NOT update!09:57
LattywarePlus when I am at Bash, I allways get loads of 'Key not mapped' errors :/09:57
ackehey how do i reconfigure xserver? i tried with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but that only allowed me to reconfigure resolution. my error with the xserver is that "no screens found". I got the error after updaging xserver yesterday.09:57
mcrandelloNickGarvey: :)09:57
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KrakensDenMorrowyn, as a terminally helpful person: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue74/tougher.html  and  http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sockpit/index.html09:57
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JoseStefan!xorgbug > acke09:57
KrakensDenMorrowyn, the first is a basic how-to09:57
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KrakensDenMorrowyn, the second is what the url says it is09:57
Morrowynthanks a lot KrakensDen09:57
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scheuriacke: the package you downloaded and installed yesterday is broken, one way is to downgrad it again...09:57
Morrowyn:)09:57
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daurn|laptopMorrowyn: Couldn't find package kvirc09:58
KrakensDenhappy to help :P09:58
LattywareThe testing was done so well on this, wasn't it...09:58
daurn|laptopis it case sensitive?09:58
daurn|laptopARG - lost in backlog09:58
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ackescheuri, to do a apt-get update brokenpackage?09:58
NickGarveyLattyware: hehe, yeah, big mistake09:58
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JoseStefan!info kvirc09:58
ubotukvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB09:58
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scheuri!xorgbug > acke09:58
scheuri!xorgbug > scheuri09:58
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LattywareThe annoying thing was, it happened at the same time as my RAM failing.09:58
LattywareFun day for me.09:59
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ali1234Morrowyn: i recommend using a portable wrapper that takes care of threading and sockets, eg wxWidgets or SDl + SDL_net depending on the project09:59
daurn|laptopJoseStefan?09:59
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NickGarveyLattyware: you know command line?09:59
acke!xorgbug09:59
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).09:59
Morrowynwell just wanna stick to linux09:59
KrakensDenali1234, he explicitly asked for a linux substitute though09:59
Morrowynno need to port it09:59
LattywareNickGarvey: What?09:59
ali1234well, they both work on linux :)09:59
KrakensDenali1234, and it's pretty portable09:59
NickGarveyLattyware: can you use the command line?09:59
Morrowynbut thanks for the tip09:59
JoseStefandaurn|laptop, try finding the package in synaptics, you might need to add repositories09:59
Morrowynim off09:59
LattywareYeah, I can10:00
Morrowyncya all and thanks for the help10:00
KrakensDenali1234, the socket stuff should work on everything but windows :P10:00
NickGarveyeh, not so bad then10:00
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scheuricya10:00
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Flanneldaurn|laptop: yes, it's case sensitive, and yes, you need to add universe.10:00
Gun_Smoke110:00
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daurn|laptopUNIVERSE???10:00
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Flannel!tell daurn|laptop about universe10:00
daurn|laptopi'm lost10:00
diocheck10:00
scheuridaurn|laptop: aye, the whole universe...;)10:00
JoseStefan!universe > daurn|laptop10:00
Flanneldaurn|laptop: read the links ubotu sent you10:00
nrdbJoseStefan: it appears that a "dpgk-reconfigure gdm" has fixed the problem.  why "gdm" I got no idea.10:00
ackescheuri: should i do reinstall? im stuck in terminal so i am a bit lost without all the guis10:00
daurn|laptoparg10:01
daurn|laptopi need a channel with less people10:01
Lattyware!triggers > everyone. Fact. :P10:01
daurn|laptoptoo busy here10:01
Flanneldaurn|laptop: #ubuntu-classroom10:01
scheuriacke...no no...NO reinstall...there is nearly NEVER a reason to reinstall linux10:01
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scheuriacke...you need to downgrad this particular package which is broken...10:01
ali1234scheuri: good reson #1: reiserfs ate your root partition10:01
bvoege2ghello! i?ve got a staNge problem. i caNt write a small "N" at the KDE desktop adNd i the shell. oN the logoN-screeN everythig is fiNe10:01
Lattywareacke: Just do 'wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'10:02
dibblegowhat's the command to format a disk?10:02
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Lattywarefdisk10:02
Flannelbvoege2g: try #kubuntu10:02
dibblegota10:02
ali1234dibblego: no, that's for partitioning10:02
scheuriali1234: well, okay...but that also means that you can't access anything again...that is quite bad10:02
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scheuriacke: gimme a second10:02
LattywareI should really leave it to the people that know :/10:02
ackescheuri: k10:02
ali1234dibblego: to format, it depends what filesystem you want10:02
scheuriacke: try the forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24095710:02
dibblegoali1234, ext310:02
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scheuriacke: the 4th post or so says how to downgrad on the console10:03
ali1234dibblego: then it's mke2fs -J10:03
JoseStefanyou need to re-install linux after taking your lappy on that scuba diving trip10:03
ackeLattyware: yeah thanks. It will take some time to rewrite that from the command line, im at now10:03
Lattywareacke: yeah, I know.10:03
ackescheuri: yeah so i use lynx to go there right?10:03
LattywareI'm on a PC downstairs, and I gotta go upstairs to type it :/10:03
scheuriacke: uuhh...sorry....heh...I will write it down for you10:03
Flannelacke: no, wget can grab it10:04
POVaddctacke: use w3m. way better than lynx.10:04
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scheuriacke:  "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"10:04
POVaddctacke: if you just want to download one file, wget is the better choice10:04
JoseStefanacke, doing the wget and restarting should be enough10:04
swarmlynx supports torrents :P10:04
x81im using ubuntu 6.06 and i replaced firefox with konqueror. how do i modify the globe icon at the top that when i click it it would launch konqueror?10:04
fyrestrtrx81: right click > properties10:04
swarmEclipse_GSX, I own a '91... 472awhp :)10:05
JoseStefanacke, this will work too:   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper10:05
Lattywarex81: You sir, are an idiot. (Heh, Just a Konqueror hater, don't mind me :P)10:05
Eclipse_GSXholla10:05
swarmand a '97 TSi AWD with a 6bolt swap and a 50trim :)10:05
Eclipse_GSXdam u did the swap eh10:05
Eclipse_GSXonly way to go nowdays10:05
swarmyup :)10:05
ali1234x81: if you have an icon for konq in your gnome menu somewhere you can just drag and drop it10:05
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x81well, firefox doesn't seem to support javascript10:05
Lattyware... It does.10:05
swarm2.3l, 50trim, dsmlink10:05
JoseStefanfirefox supports javascript10:05
NickGarveyx81: it definitly does10:06
swarmand the obvious mods, fmic, fuel, etc :P10:06
nrdbwith the broken xserver package how will I know when it is safe to upgrade again?10:06
LattywareTrust me. It's the fastest Javascript parsing of any browser.10:06
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LattywareOnly place it beats opera in speed.10:06
JoseStefannrdb, when version doesnt end in "10.3" you could "retry"10:06
ackeJoseStefan: thanks10:06
swarmwhat year is yours, Eclipse_GSX ?10:06
x81well it doesn't work on the webpage i made, and konqueror works jst fine.10:06
ali1234nrdb: wait for the message to disappear from the topic of this channel :)10:06
Kzarikwhy hasnt someone pulled the fubar'd update yet ?10:06
orbishLattyware: are you saying opera is faster than firefox?10:07
x81anyways, what do i change in the properties?10:07
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nrdbJoseStefan: ok, did you see my message to you, about gdm?10:07
JoseStefanfirefox is very strict with javascript though, and unfortunetly most webpages are not written in compliance with standards10:07
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JoseStefannrdb, yes10:07
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ali1234x81: change command: firefox %u to konqueror %u10:07
JoseStefanKzarik, good question10:08
x81ok. thanks man10:08
Vide80is there a way to do a clean ubuntu reinstall over an installed one (same version, Dapper) without losing data?10:08
x81wait, it says access denied10:09
NickGarveyVide80: I suggest backing up /home, thats where most of your files are10:09
NickGarveyVide80: I have /home on a seperate partition for that reason10:09
JoseStefanNickGarvey, sometimes /home is not all10:09
ackehaha irc on the commandline shows topic then 725 names of ppls in channel then what ppls say. so i never saw the topic. sry10:09
Vide80well, the fact is that's a server that's going crazy and there's no way to debug it10:09
NickGarveyJoseStefan: I well for most of your users config files it is10:10
NickGarveyJoseStefan: but like /etc for system config and stuff, but I find /home does it for most situations10:10
Anubuntumcrandello, if your still here, it appears to be working. Thank you so much10:10
NickGarveyacke: type "/topic"10:10
swarmoh holy crap10:10
swarmi didn't realize how many people were in here10:10
JoseStefanNickGarvey, i have most of my LAMP settings in /etc10:10
Vide80the scsi raid controller (a perc one) only works with a single kernel revision10:10
Vide802.6.15-2310:10
orbishAnubuntu: what boot disk did you use, for future reference10:11
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NickGarveyJoseStefan: hehe, I have all my lamp settings in /etc10:11
meathead_fyrestrtr: you there?10:11
Vide80and now, after most recent dist-upgrade, it locks on kernel event manager10:11
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Anubuntumcrandello, Slax, although I wouldnt recommend it.. its kind of.. not good. but it was the only thing I had lying around10:11
Anubuntu*orbish, Slax, although I wouldnt recommend it.. its kind of.. not good. but it was the only thing I had lying around10:11
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orbishright on, thanks10:12
ocjeunessebonjour10:12
NickGarvey!fr10:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:12
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ackeJoseStefan: thank you so much, xserver is back up running10:14
JoseStefanacke, np10:14
Vide80so, isn't there a wa to do a clean reinstall?10:14
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JoseStefanacke, make sure to keep an eye open for that particular package, avoid the one ending in 10.3 but update when a newer one comes out10:14
xrenexhi, is someone good at preseeding?10:14
Lattyware:D Got X working again. Gotta love #ubuntu.10:15
meathead_fyrestrtr: you there anymore man?10:15
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ali1234Vide80: why do you want to reinstall? there is probably a much easier way to solve the problem10:15
NickGarveyLattyware: :)10:15
JoseStefanVide80, you should try and find a backup guide10:15
ackeJoseStefan: okay. im rebooting. but i might be back. cheers10:15
ackeexit10:16
LattywareThanks, I'll be back on my proper machine...10:16
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Vide80ali1234: if you can show me the way, when it hangs on kernel event manager starting...10:16
ackehuum how do i kill irc from inside irc?10:16
acke..10:16
Vide80even on safe mode10:16
swarmwhat's the command to check free hd space?10:16
xrenexeverything works fine but the  "Download language support" question popsup everytime10:16
homerh_hmorning ppl i need some help screwed my system lastnight10:16
POVaddctswarm: df10:16
Vide80well, in safe mode with a couple of ctrl+c I can get to a prompt10:17
swarmty10:17
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JoseStefanacke, usually /exit or /quit10:17
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Vide80but a simple ls -l freezes the machine10:17
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orbishPART breaking linux10:17
Gun_Smoke1110:17
xrenexi searchthe net but didn't find anything10:17
Vide80is something kernel related, I'm sure10:17
LattywareNow, I have removed one of my RAM sticks, hoepfully, this one has no errors...10:17
ali1234Vide80: yes probably10:17
Vide80but after a clean install I had a working machine10:17
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ali1234Vide80: when did it start not working?10:18
JoseStefanLattywar, i suggest you run memtest overnight10:18
Vide80but after some dist-upgrade for bug-fixing10:18
JoseStefanLattyware*10:18
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ali1234Vide80: ah10:18
Vide80the problem is very strange10:18
meathead_anyone here know how to configure Ubuntu Center/iCenter X10:18
linux_user400354can someone please help with installing vmware?10:18
homerh_hi thinki splashy is causing my gdm ,then the system tryed to boot into gmd just after the nvidia screen gray checked one it come up with "the greater application appers to be crashing attempting to use a diffrent one10:18
Vide80in fact, with this machine scsi raid controller10:18
JoseStefanVide80, i think there is a way to repair/reinstall all packages, not sure10:18
Vide80a perc one10:18
LattywareJoseStefan: Well, I ran it for about 30 seconds and found and error.10:18
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Vide80it works only a single revision of kernel10:18
Vide802.6.15-2310:19
LattywareI'm going to replace it with 1GB of RAM anyway.10:19
DShepherdis there an ubuntu skin for opera?10:19
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Vide80newer ones (-26 for example) don't even boot10:19
LattywareBut for the moment, this will do.10:19
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Vide80well, they can't find the disk10:19
JoseStefanLattyware, you might want to confirm bios timings and voltages for your ram, from the manufacturer website10:19
Vide80they detect the controller, but not the attached disk10:19
linux_user400354will someone please look at this and correct me? i must be doing something wrong. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&page=4710:19
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Vide80and even with knoppix, gentoo livecd and other with 2.6.1710:19
Vide80it doesn't work10:20
JoseStefanLattyware, you might also want to check your PSU rails, either manually with a voltmeter, or using software10:20
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Lattywareyeah...10:20
ardchoilleWow, I tell ya.. running Firefox in fluxbox makes ff fly :)10:20
ali1234Vide80: so you can't mount any drives on the machine currently?10:20
Lattywareheh, fluxbox is cool10:20
LattywareI run it on my Xbox10:20
Vide80so, the only way I have is to try to revert it back to a clean 6.06 installation and DO NOT touch anything10:20
Vide80no10:20
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AnubuntuHello10:20
Vide80maybe I could try with a ubuntu desktop live cd10:20
ali1234Vide80: what you need to do is make a bootdisk with your known kernel version on it10:20
ali1234yes, the desktop livecd is probably a good choice :)10:21
forbidden_fruitI'm getting this error on Konversation: [DCOP]  Error: Could not execute script "/home/aarohi/38231-amarok.pl". Check file permissions.10:21
Vide80anyway all I need is /etc10:21
forbidden_fruitThe file HAS the correct permissions set, I just can't figure out what the prob is10:21
Vide80it's not a production server10:21
ali1234Vide80: after booting it, chroot to mount your HD and chroot to the root partition, then use apt to downgrade the kernel version10:21
Vide80well, it sould be in the next days10:21
Vide80luckily the problem came out before :)10:22
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Vide80ali1234: do you know what "kernel event system" step does in Ubuntu?10:22
Vide80only kernel related things?10:22
Lattyware256 of ram is slow...10:22
JoseStefanVide80, you dont have to reinstall to downgrade10:22
Vide80JoseStefan: I can't even get network connectivity10:23
Vide80how can I downgrade?10:23
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Vide80mmmh...10:23
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JoseStefanVide80, you can use the install cd as source10:23
ali1234Vide80: no idea, but the last thing on the ubuntu startup list is not usually a good indication of the problem if you have a serious hardware problem10:23
Vide80maybe using ubuntu 6.06 cd as repository..10:23
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swarmmy little "update" bix thing keeps coming up, asking me to update :P10:24
Vide80ok, lets see if I can mount it with the rescue prompt..10:24
MorphDKWhen will the bug be fixed?10:24
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Vide80wait a minute10:24
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Anubuntudoes anyone here know how to recover a deleted filesystem with TestDisk?10:24
JoseStefanMorphDK, they maintainer is probably sleeping10:25
MorphDKJoseStefan, nice.. :/10:25
JoseStefanjust my guess10:25
ali1234Anubuntu: define "deleted filesystem"10:25
LattywareYeah, the update thing is going to annoy me,10:25
Anubuntuali1234: as in, I formatted the wrong partition and erased ubuntu10:26
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JoseStefanif you lock version in synaptics, it doesnt show10:26
PyroManiakHelp! I let ubuntu auto-update, and now my xserver wont start10:26
JoseStefan...but you wont get a notice when the problem is finally fixed10:26
Lattyware!xorgbug > PyroManiak10:26
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PyroManiakLattyware what?10:27
ali1234Anubuntu: then, i don't know. sorry :(10:27
JoseStefanPyroManiak, read the msg you got from ubotu10:27
LattywarePyroManiak: Check your queries.10:27
Anubuntuali1234: although I dont think it completly wiped the disk, because it quite simply didnt take long enough10:27
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swarm!xorgbug > swarm10:27
JoseStefanis ubotu flood safe?10:27
PyroManiakLattyware is my problem common?10:28
meathead_if you don't chown a file, does locate work on it?10:28
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LattywarePyroManiak: It's a problem with the latest update10:28
swarmPyroManiak, ,very10:28
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meathead_err, no chown, own10:28
LattywareEveryone has it :'(10:28
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JoseStefanin a "funnel" target-wise point of view ?10:28
PyroManiakoh wow... thats horrible.. heh.. well, atleast I know I didn't break it =P10:28
mcbuddhahi all!10:29
Lattywareyeah, I had another problem, and spent ages trying to fix it thinking they were related :/10:29
JoseStefanis ubotu flood safe, in a "funnel" (target-wise) point of view ?10:29
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swarmLattyware, that sucks :P10:30
Vide80JoseStefan: I have booted with a rescue prompt10:30
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JoseStefanexample: someone asks something, and multiple people use the !tell feature (or pipe) to help that person, at the same time10:30
mcbuddhaanybody knows what does the live cd installer do at 39%? cause it fails everytime it gets there.10:30
Vide80inserted the cd10:30
LattywareIt'd probably help people if someone set up a redirection to that page, with a short url that wget would support... could you do it with PHP redirection?10:30
tapoxHi everyone. I need to solve a wifi card issue within four hours, or else I won't have a connection for two weeks.10:30
Vide80commented out /etc/apt/sources.list internet repos10:30
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Vide80done a apt-get update10:30
Vide80but it gives me an error10:30
ali1234tapox: lol. what is the issue? and what card?10:31
Vide80it doesn't recognize cdrom as a repo10:31
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tapoxIt's a linksys, bcm43xx chipset. The kernel seems to have the driver loaded and ready, but when I do iwconfig eth1 it shows the access point as being 'Invalid', attempts to change the AP to any, off, or a specific number don't do anything10:31
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JoseStefanVide80, i've never used cdrom as repo, could you have a typo on your sources.list ?10:32
Lattyware!xorgbug > Lattyware10:32
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PyroManiakLattyware: is this i386 file ok when I'm using the p3 optimized kernel?10:32
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ali1234tapox: okay sounds like you have either not configured your secutiry properly for the AP or you have an incompatibility between the card and the AP10:33
JoseStefanPyroManiak, should be fine10:33
afiefhow can i recursively change the owner of a folder and old subfolders/files?10:33
LattywarePyroManiak: Don't know, I'm not an expert I'm afraid, someone else will know.10:33
SuplyndmndWell, LiveCD Works :)10:33
JoseStefan!chown > afief10:33
NickGarveyLattyware: try /msg ubotu xorgbug10:33
Vide80JoseStefan: I have the default repo line10:33
Vide80let's google a bit..10:33
tapoxali1234: I don't have security on my AP, it's open. And the router is a linksys as well. I actually had this same setup working before I nuked Ubuntu and later reinstalled it.10:33
LattywareNickGarvey: Yeah, I know, I just wanted to see what it was again, I've alllready fixed mine10:33
SuplyndmndInstalling this wasn't as easy as I thought it would be :(10:34
NickGarveyLattyware: okie10:34
JoseStefanafief, try man chown, you will need the -R option10:34
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ali1234tapox: okay, if it's open, then that is definately not the problem. open always works. i was about to recommend trying it like that10:34
NickGarveyafief: yeah, its just chown -R user:group /dir10:34
afiefJoseStefan, okay, although ubotu gave me the description for CLI10:34
mcbuddhaHi everyone! the 6.06.1 live cd installer fails at 39%. i don't have an idea what's the problem. does anyone know what does it do at 39%?10:35
JoseStefanafief, i dont know how to do it in X. btw, you will need sudo with that10:35
NickGarveymcbuddha: what does it say on the screen other than 39%?10:36
afiefJoseStefan, i prefer CLI:)10:36
JoseStefanafief, you will need the -R option of chown10:36
JoseStefanafief, try: man chown10:36
afiefJoseStefan, done:) it's all changed10:36
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JoseStefannp10:37
afiefthanks guys10:37
mcbuddhaNickGarvey: nothing. X freeze, only the cursor moves. ctrl+alt+backspace -> everything disappears except the background and the cursor10:37
ali1234tapox: it's a tricky one alright. can you get it working with any livecd?10:37
NickGarveymcbuddha: have you tried the alternate cd? I find that more reliable10:38
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PyroManiakLattyware: Thanks so much.. X is back... is there anything I should do? or not do now? (like let it update again)10:38
LattywareIf anyone is interested, if you want to type less to downgrade, you can use 'wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' (It uses a PHP redirect, not a mirrored file).10:38
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JoseStefanmcbuddha, you could always try the alternate install cd, but there must be an easier solution10:38
LattywarePyroManiak: Just don't update10:38
thinkHi all10:38
LattywareUntil you get the go-ahead from here :D10:38
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Guard] [anhi10:38
tapoxali1234: Nope. I think the broadcom driver made it into the kernel in 6.06.1 Before that, it wouldn't work, and I had to run a program called bcm43xx-fwcutter to drop the drivers in /lib/firmware10:38
JoseStefanPyroManiak, wait for a version newer than the one that ends with "10.3"10:39
Guard] [annot so ubuntu related but, is there a way to search multiple buffers in vim ?10:39
PyroManiakLattyware: thanks again10:39
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PyroManiakJoseStefan: Thank you too :] 10:39
thinkcan someone help me out need some help (linux Newbie)10:39
NickGarveythink: what can we do?10:39
LattywarePyroManiak: Not at all, I'm just someone who went through the same thing :P10:39
Vide80JoseStefan: ok, done10:39
Vide80i have the cdrom as a repo10:39
Vide80now, how to downgrade?10:39
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SuplyndmndDo you guys not get tired of noobs like me and think?10:39
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Vide80ali1234: if you have any idea too....:)10:39
JoseStefanVide80 do you want to downgrade specific packages or all?10:40
homerh_hhiya how do you from the terminal edit the session startup programs10:40
thinki installed ubuntu now restart my computer and he says no boot sector found10:40
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sarikanis it possible to run two instances of xorg one with xgl on top of it, and other on a second virtual console and destkop session?10:40
escihi10:40
swarmSuplyndmnd, without noobs, where would any linux distros be?10:40
ardchoilleSuplyndmnd: Actually, this channel if specifically for helping folks.. whether they are noobs or veterans :)10:40
mcbuddhaNickGarvey, JoseStefan: downloading it right now. but that is not a solution. on the CD all checksums are right, had several older ubuntu/kubuntu on this machine.10:40
esciis there any app to manage system services?10:40
Suplyndmndvery true10:40
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NickGarveymcbuddha: I find the alternate cd much more reliable10:40
ali1234tapox: it sounds as if before when it worked you used the firmware from the windows drivers? ie the proprietry firmware, but now you are using a totally different open source one?10:40
thinkNickGarvey i installed ubuntu now restart my computer and he says no boot sector found10:41
tapoxali1234: Yep.10:41
Vide80JoseStefan: since i don't know what specific package may be the problem, i think all is the best solution10:41
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JoseStefanVide80, you can downgrade specific packages using =version10:41
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qsrvhi10:41
JoseStefanVide80, dont know about ALL10:41
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usuarioserver irc.arrakis.es10:41
SuplyndmndDo you have to install a plugin to be able to read FAT32 drives?10:41
mRCUTEOanyone knows how to use "screen" to keep process running 24/7 in ubuntu ?10:41
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ardchoillemRCUTEO: I do that with irssi :)10:42
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: nope, just mount them10:42
JoseStefanVide80, you can also downgrade using using the "/dapper" suffix, but dont know how that would work with cdrom repo10:42
SuplyndmndDo I have to buy it dinner first? :)10:42
swarmmRCUTEO, screen commandname10:42
Vide80JoseStefan: more in details?10:42
swarmthen to bring it back, screen -r10:42
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SuplyndmndNickGarvey, not sure how to mount them.10:42
ali1234tapox: so perhaps you should continue to use the proprietry one (and try the open source one periodcally to see if it works)10:42
JoseStefanVide80, example, downgrading xserver-xorg-core:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper10:42
thinkNickGarvey : the harddrive wont boot after installing ubuntu10:43
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mRCUTEOswarm: i got problem : Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. when running screen.10:43
tapoxali1234: But I'm not sure if the kernel will let me override its built in drivers10:43
JoseStefanVide80, if you know the version #, you could use "=version" instead10:43
mcbuddhaNickGarvey: alright. i will try it. if i won't come back here today, than thanks, it works.10:43
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swarmmRCUTEO, no idea - it works for me.. i'm a n00b so sorry, i am not of much help10:44
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mRCUTEOok..10:44
ali1234tapox: it should be possible to disable the kernel driver10:44
Vide80JoseStefan: the problem is that the kernel working version is still there10:44
swarmmRCUTEO, what command are u giving it?10:44
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Vide80but probably there some other package that breaks the machine10:44
JoseStefanVide80, maybe you could play with apt_preferences, and make all dapper-updates packages have less priority10:44
ali1234tapox: did you use ndiswrapper with the old version? or kernel driver + copied firmware?10:44
TeltariatI'm sure you guys have heard by now that the latest xserver-xorg-core update breaks a working xorg setup?  This happen to me on a fresh 6.06 installation.  I received an update notification, the update icon appeared, and in the list was xserver.  Did the upgrade, rebooted, and POW, xserver don't work no more.10:45
mRCUTEOswarm: user@216:~/development/planeshift$ screen ./psserver10:45
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: "sudo fdisk -l" to find which is the fat3210:45
tapoxali1234: copied firmware route.10:45
LattywareTeltariat: It's a problem well know10:45
Lattyware*known10:45
swarmmRCUTEO, screen psserver10:45
Lattyware!xorgbug > Teltariat10:45
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: then "sudo mkdir /mnt/fat32 && mount /dev/hd? /mnt/fat32"10:45
TeltariatThanks LAttyware.10:45
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: but change the hd? to what it actually is10:45
mRCUTEOswarm: okie10:45
LattywareNP.10:45
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NickGarveySuplyndmnd: and in the future, drop the mkdir /mnt/fat32 part10:45
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NickGarveySuplyndmnd: and.. you need a sudo infront of mount /dev/hd?10:46
SuplyndmndI haven't installed yet10:46
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: oh :)10:46
SuplyndmndI'm having issues with it10:46
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ali1234tapox: best bet is to downgrade kernel version then... unless it was a really old kernel10:46
SuplyndmndI cant get it to auto partition (errors) so I was trying to do it in GParted.  But it wont do anything in there10:46
linux_user400354HAS ANYONE INSTALLED VMWARE SERVER IN UBUNTU WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS?10:47
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Lattywarelinux_user400354: Caps off.10:47
JoseStefan!shout10:47
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ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:47
swarmlinux_user400354, i have10:47
bhenryWhat's a good terminal tex editor?10:47
LattywareNano10:47
swarmpico! :)10:47
tapoxnano10:47
JoseStefanbhenry, i use vi10:47
NickGarveyvi ftw!10:47
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NickGarveywell, vim10:47
meathead_someone know a quick and easy way to set an alarm from console maybe10:47
meathead_or in base ubuntu10:47
meathead_that will play a song10:47
meathead_or just some beeping10:48
meathead_to wake me up10:48
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linux_user400354swarm: maybe you can solve this problem. look at the very bottom posts on this forum. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&page=4710:48
ali1234tapox: i mean if you want to get it working fast. ideally you want to get the newer driver working of course10:48
SuplyndmndWalmart has clocks for like 5.99 :)10:48
bhenrythanks!10:48
NickGarveymeathead_: theres something called kalarm I used10:48
JoseStefanlol10:48
PyroManiakback in happy linux land... ahhhh10:48
meathead_good for walmart10:48
JoseStefanSuplyndmnd, does wallmart have open source clocks?10:48
meathead_kalarm is for... Kubuntu?10:48
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Suplyndmnd..... maybe, i didn't read up on it10:48
NickGarveymeathead_: yup :(10:49
meathead_that doesn't help10:49
swarmhow big is this xorg-core update?10:49
ali1234meathead_: for the console: man at10:49
meathead_I said ubuntu10:49
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meathead_so you've all got smart answers, but no one can help?10:49
JoseStefancant you run kde packages on gnome?10:49
nekostarsoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo weiird10:49
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ardchoilleJoseStefan: yes10:49
NickGarveymeathead_: it should still work in gnome, just might need some extra libraries10:49
nekostarJoseStefan: yes most10:49
linux_user400354didnt know clocks run software. what the hell is open source clocks at walmart.10:49
nekostarmm10:49
JoseStefani think i have some kde games be default on ubuntu10:49
nekostarso i installed nvidia-glx etc opon new dapper install10:49
JoseStefanby*10:49
ali1234meathead_: what's wrong with at?10:49
nekostarand did upgrade to new kernel... and now i get X error no screen...10:49
NickGarveyali1234: might be to hard to et up10:50
nekostarany way to build the new module or something ???10:50
NickGarvey!xorgbug > nekostar10:50
nekostaro:10:50
nekostarty10:50
meathead_ali1234: nothing, that's perfect10:50
meathead_ali1234: thx thx10:50
JoseStefanNickGarvey, do you have that on your right click menu?10:50
NickGarveyJoseStefan: haha nope10:50
NickGarveyI should though ;)10:50
JoseStefanyou always beat me to it10:50
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SuplyndmndNickGarvey, when I double click Install I get the whole "Where are you" and etc and get to "Prepare disk space".  I choose the drive and "Resize blah blah and use freed space" then "next"  It flashes a few things up REALLY quick then says "Failed to create enough space for installation"10:50
LattywareYes! Just one more DVD left in my burning-spree. 25 DVDs take ages to burn, especially as I did half of them at 1x...10:50
Lattyware(because of an error.10:51
Lattyware)10:51
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: how much space are you giving it?10:51
SuplyndmndLike 50 gigs10:51
meathead_ali1234: at 2pm beep-media-player /box/music/whatever.mp3?10:51
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: should be more than enough10:51
ali1234meathead_: sounds good10:51
SuplyndmndI was hoping so10:51
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: heh, unless you are installing the internet10:51
SuplyndmndI'm just installing ubuntu! :)10:52
NickGarveySuplyndmnd: ok um, hmm.. have you tried partioning with another live cd?10:52
JoseStefani want to download the internet someday10:52
LattywareI find 450GB very little space really.10:52
NickGarveyJoseStefan: talk to google, they should have most of it already heh10:52
LattywareI need more.10:52
SuplyndmndI have not10:52
NickGarveyLattyware: I have 40 GB.. grr10:52
taliosanyone know how far off a fixed xorg deb is?10:52
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NickGarveySuplyndmnd: there is a live cd called "gparted"10:52
LattywareIs this on slashdot yet?10:52
swarmLattyware, I have 2 x 400gb SATA10:52
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Lattywareswarm: Nice.10:53
NickGarveyLattyware:  not yet10:53
SuplyndmndI saw that10:53
JoseStefanyou should always defrag before resizeing (and backup too)10:53
meathead_ali1234: syntax error. Last token seen: b10:53
meathead_Garbled time10:53
fdsdhey guys, How do I get an older ubuntu iso? im looking for something pre 6.06, like 6.0 or something10:53
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NickGarveyfdsd: hehe, no such thing10:53
NickGarveyfdsd: the version number is based on release date10:53
hypeyo here :)10:53
NickGarvey!breezy10:53
ubotubreezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"10:53
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hypeis any special channel for Xgl/compiz?10:53
fdsdNickGarvey, ok10:53
TeltariatThank you, Lattyware.10:53
hypeis there*10:53
NickGarveyfdsd: 5.10 (october 2005)10:53
JoseStefanfdsd, why not use the latest release?10:54
DarkMageZhype, yes #ubuntu-xgl10:54
fdsdJoseStefan, usplash is broken10:54
LattywareTeltariat: No problem.10:54
hypecheers DarkMageZ :p10:54
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hypetried with "." :p10:54
fdsdJoseStefan, im modifing the live cd, so the live cd is very important10:54
ali1234meathead_: echo 'beep-media-player foo.mp3' | at 2pm10:54
meathead_I see10:54
meathead_thanks10:54
ali1234meathead_: and that will only fire once i think10:54
Madpilotfdsd, 6.06's LiveCD is vastly improved over Breezy's10:54
fdsdMadpilot, yes it is10:55
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rixth * Starting RAID monitoring services...                                                                                            [fail]  << how can I find out why?10:55
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rixthThe RAID array itselt is up and working fine10:55
fdsdMadpilot, is there expermental live cds?10:55
Madpilotfdsd, of the test version of Ubuntu? I'm not sure, but I don't think so10:56
SuplyndmndHoly schnikes.... GParted formats to like 15 different things10:56
meathead_ali1234: after I type that i get: >10:56
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JoseStefanfdsd, you could probably find dailies10:56
meathead_it wants me to type!10:56
igorzolnikovWHY?10:56
hypebtw, whats the file to modifiy to select the souncard used at startup?10:56
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ali1234meathead_: you missed a quote or something10:56
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igorzolnikovI updated Xserver-Xorg... and I can't startx?10:56
fdsdJoseStefan, where are they?10:57
SuplyndmndWhat format should the drive be that I want to install Ubuntu on?10:57
hypei just plugged a webcam and now it trys to use webcam as sound card :p10:57
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igorzolnikovIt's very bad!!!10:57
JoseStefan!daily > fdsd10:57
meathead_ahh shit10:57
meathead_I put an extra quote10:57
meathead_you're good10:57
ali1234Suplyndmnd: it's optional but i recommend ext310:57
meathead_thanks man10:57
johnnybezakman why does hardware recognition still suck so hard10:57
johnnybezakigorzolnikov: they stuffed up the x server, read the topic10:57
meathead_job 1 at Tue Aug 22 14:00:00 200610:57
johnnybezak!topic10:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:58
JoseStefanfdsd, NOTE: current development releases is for edgy10:58
Lattywareigorzolnikov: To fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.10:58
Suplyndmndali, first, nice name :) and secondly, ty10:58
fdsdJoseStefan, wow thanks10:58
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igorzolnikovOK!!!10:58
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Madpilotfdsd, there are no LiveCDs yet of the Edgy releases, only alternate/install CDs10:58
JoseStefanfdsd, you could also try edgy knot1 for a more mature version10:58
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fdsdMadpilot, ok10:58
JoseStefanfdsd, i believe knot1 has a livecd10:59
fdsdJoseStefan, how do I find the url for that?10:59
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JoseStefanfdsd, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing11:00
Madpilotfdsd, actually, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ has daily-build LiveCDs. Expect much interesting breakage!11:00
linux_user400354UBUNTU IS STUPID11:00
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fdsdMadpilot, lol11:00
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protocol1is there a command that I can use to undo or uninstall what easyubuntu did to my system?11:01
protocol1I cant get back to X11:01
tapoxHow do I reconfigure a package?11:01
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Ivanowitchhmm... is X sure to break if you upgrade, or might it happen?11:01
dibblegoprotocol1, read the channel topic11:01
Lattywaresure to, as far as I know.11:01
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JoseStefanIvanowitch, surely11:01
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Ivanowitchguess I'll wait upgrading for a day or two then ... :S11:02
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JoseStefantapox, try: man dpkg-reconfigure11:02
KenSentMeJoseStefan: my xserver isn't broken11:02
tapoxOh nm, saw /topic11:02
SuplyndmndI gotta be doing something completely stupid11:02
rixthDBO, si senor?11:02
dibblegoKenSentMe, read the channel topic11:02
meathead_ali1234: it went in fine, just one problem... it didn't play the mp3!11:02
DBO#ubuntu-ops please11:02
brianjanyone else having issues with the recent xorg update?  I can't get X to load on my IBM X31 (ATI)11:02
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dibblegobrianj, read the channel topic11:02
KenSentMedibblego: i know, but mine isn't broken after the update11:02
hypesame here11:03
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hypejust updated (ATI 9600XT)11:03
JoseStefanKenSentMe, you have restarted yet?11:03
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NickGarveyKenSentMe: don't restart!11:03
brianjgah! sorry dibblego.  Not used to console IRC and the topic scrolled right by ;)11:03
hypewhat???11:03
KenSentMeNickGarvey: ok, ill downgrade then11:03
Lattywarebrianj:11:03
hypei just did the update and just restart my Xserver atm :s11:03
LattywareTo fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.11:03
NickGarveybrianj: try /topic11:03
mauperHi there! One short question - how can I list all available (e.g. older) versions of a package (on cli)11:03
Suplyndmnd*smacks head on desk*11:04
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brianjyeah, I saw it now.  I just didn't bother checking it before asking.  Thanks for the help11:04
johnnybezakis that x screw up in dapper or in whatever is dapper+111:04
NickGarveyLattyware: whats the downgrade.php for?11:04
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NickGarveyLattyware: oh I see, it redirects11:04
LattywareNickGarvey: Just a PHP redirect, it redirects to the really long URL11:04
NickGarveyyup11:04
JoseStefanLattyware, i thought you were getting a shorter URL11:04
LattywareIt's just shorter, I know I would have appreciated not having to type in the entire URL.11:04
SuplyndmndIt's possible to install Ubuntu in Windows si?11:05
NickGarveyLattyware: yup, try "tinyurl.com" though11:05
LattywareIt is relitivly short.11:05
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LattywareNickGarvey: I didn't think that would work, as it's META redirection.11:05
JoseStefanLattyware, i would prefer http://xorgfix.com/   :P11:05
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LattywareJoseStefan: Yeah, but I don't own that domain :P11:05
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ali1234meathead_: the only thing i can think of is that beep couldn't open the sound card because it's running in a different process than your current login, and so wasn't able to access the esd or whatever11:05
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NickGarveysleep time11:05
SuplyndmndNIght Nick11:06
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ali1234meathead_: but i've never used beep so i dunno if it has those kind of problems11:06
SuplyndmndCan Ubuntu be installed in Windows?11:06
JoseStefanLattyware, you dont need PHP though, you could use apache11:06
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LattywareYeah, but it was quicker just to upload a page.11:06
toxic_Can I use grep to match two different words, like hi and ho ?11:06
LattywareIt's only a single line of PHP.11:06
JoseStefanLattyware, save yourself a whole 3 chars :D11:06
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ali1234toxic_: grep '(hi|ho)'11:07
JoseStefanLattyware, you could put it in a folder, and use index.php11:07
Lattywareheh, I guess11:07
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toxic_ali1234, thanks alot :)11:07
lamegoSuplyndmnd, yes, if you use something like vmware, but if you are just planning to test it11:07
tsubasafrubuntu as lost my trust in auto update11:07
tom_Hi: I got an xorg update yesterday, and now X is just failing to start, it says 'no devices found' and in the log file the error occurs right after it lists all the Nvidia chipsets. Any ideas? I've tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg to no avail.11:07
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tsubasafrubuntu as lost my trust in auto update11:07
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gnomefreaktom_: do updates again11:07
brianjahh, fix works.  I'm now in X.  Thanks all :D11:07
meathead_ali1234: all echo seems to do is display the text "beep-media-player blah.mp3"11:07
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tsubasafrubuntu put broken package ( Xorg ) in auto update11:07
tsubasafrubuntu put broken package ( Xorg ) in auto update11:08
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meathead_echo is supposed to execute the command?11:08
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JoseStefan!xorgbug > tom_11:08
tom_!xorgbug11:08
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).11:08
meathead_ali1234: echo is supposed to execute the command?11:08
gnomefreaktsubasafr: as of right now its fixed11:08
hypexorgbugfix11:08
hype!xorgbugfix11:08
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb11:08
noodlehey guys how do i link rm so that rm does rm -i?11:08
lamegonoodle, you create an alias for that11:09
ali1234toxic_: you need to properly escape that regexp, sorry11:09
dibblego!xorgbugfix > dibblego11:09
mneptoknoodle: alias rm='rm -i'11:09
hype.bachrc11:09
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hypein your /home11:09
hypeedit it11:09
noodlewhat if im using csh11:09
noodle:S11:09
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ali1234meathead_: at accepts commands on stdin - echo puts them there11:09
meathead_ali1234: when I type just "beep-media-player blah.mp3" in console it works fine, could I have missed something that's not making it EXECUTE the command but just echo it back to me?11:09
Madpilotgnomefreak, the xorg stuff is fixed? I don't see an update yet...11:09
hypesay it before :D11:09
hypedunno11:09
toxic_ali1234, ok11:09
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rodarvushi there11:10
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ali1234meathead_: try the at command thing again, this time type atq afterwards, check the job is correct11:10
noodlenvm there's a .cshrc11:10
gnomefreakMadpilot: i just got a new version11:10
lamegoMadpilot, it is not fixed on the updates yet11:10
avishello all11:10
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avisi'm having serious trouble with X server11:10
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rodarvusI've just updated bug 5715311:10
meathead_meathead@quack:~$ echo "beep-media-player /box/music/Jack\ Johnson/jack\ of\ all\ trades/22\ -\ Acoustic\ Jam\ \(Thicker\ Than\ Water\).mp3"11:10
meathead_beep-media-player /box/music/Jack\ Johnson/jack\ of\ all\ trades/22\ -\ Acoustic\ Jam\ \(Thicker\ Than\ Water\).mp311:10
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LattywareTo fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/xorgbug' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.11:10
P_71WYeah, so, I installed 6.06 and immediatly it tells me there are upgrades available. One is xserver. I restarted and now xserver is broke.11:10
tsubasafri dont trust update system anymore11:10
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avisi'm getting no X servers found after loading nvidia drivers and doing a full update and fresh install.11:10
rodarvuswith two experimental X.Org packages11:10
tsubasafri have loose 3 hour in my work11:10
meathead_without at, instead of DOING the command, it shows me the command...11:10
tsubasafrwith that11:10
lamego!xorgbug > avis11:10
P_71Wwow, sound farmiliar11:10
rodarvusone of the two packages is supposed to fix the problem you are experiencing11:10
Madpilotgnomefreak, hmm, I'll keep hitting reload in Synaptic, I don't want to leave this box running all night but I want it fixed before I turn it off... :|11:10
ali1234meathead_: yes11:10
gnomefreakxserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3  is in the updates11:10
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ali1234meathead_: that is correct11:11
rodarvusit would be muchly appreciated if you could test these packages.11:11
Calatormy X broke11:11
mneptokrodarvus: find someone to /topic that LP URL for you :)11:11
Calatori justupdated11:11
dibblego!xorgbugfix > Calator11:11
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JoseStefan1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 is the broken version11:11
avisage ? thank you lamego however could you tell me how in irssi that i access that private mess11:11
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meathead_so why with | at 2pm on the end, should it do any different?11:11
scaporis fglrx broken in edgy ?  Seems it doesn't work with the xserver-xorg ABI version ?11:11
avismessage11:11
gnomefreakMadpilot: im using the uk mirrors11:11
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gnomefreakJoseStefan: yesterdays version was the broken one as i remember11:11
ali1234meathead_: because "|" pipes the displayed text into at, which saves it until 2pm then runs it11:11
hypeyou think there will ba apatch soon? (better tht downgrade no? )11:12
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lamegoavis, what mess ? can't you read the instructions ?11:12
tom_alright thanks a lot guys11:12
JoseStefangnomefreak, 10.3 was broken last time i used it11:12
mneptokhype: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:12
avislamego i dont know how to read private messages in irssi the only console irc client i've used is ircII11:12
LattywareTo fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/xorgbug' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.11:12
gnomefreakJoseStefan: give me a min im looking into it11:12
LattywareNow you don't need to ;P11:12
Madpilotgnomefreak, I'm using the main repos, no update yet...11:12
rodarvusLattyware, please do not instruct people to downgrade, if at all possible. I've prepared experimental packages which are supposed to fix this problem11:13
Lattywareah, fair enough11:13
aviswell i gotta hurry and switch terminals because i dont have mouse in terminal11:13
ali1234meathead_: try setting another at job as before, this time check the display of atq, it lists what will be executed...11:13
rodarvusplease read the above mentioned bug report11:13
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LattywareSorry11:13
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rodarvusLattyware, thanks for caring, though :)11:13
Madpilotmneptok, add a link to that bug report in /topic?11:13
Calatorthanks a lot for the help guys, executing the command now11:13
CalatorhopefullyX will be back11:13
mneptokMadpilot: no +o here, sorry11:13
Calatoranyone know what was broken?11:14
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Madpilotmneptok, do you want that URL in the /topic?11:14
mneptokMadpilot: but yeah, that's what should be done. put the LP URL in the /topic.11:14
gnomefreakMadpilot: i had one yesterday (didnt break for me) when it did for everyone else it still shouldnt break for me but we will see11:14
Lattywarerodarvus: heh, I had the problem, and I got helped, so I feel I should help others, simple logic :P11:14
lamegorodarvus, which version are er expected to try ?11:14
lamegoare we11:14
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meathead_it lists it11:14
|skillet|i have a thinkpad 600e laptop. i was having probs getting the sound to work. i googled and found some help. i can hear the speakers make noise like they are on but i cant get the mixer to work11:14
rodarvuslamego, there are two experimental versions, in http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/11:14
rixth * Starting RAID monitoring services... [fail]  << how can I find out why? The RAID array itself is available11:14
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rodarvuseach of the two versions tries to fix the problem in a different manner11:14
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meathead_but I set one at like... 5:16am, a minute from now, and when the clock turns 5:16am instead of running that command, it seems to do nothing11:14
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cafuegorodarvus: check syslog11:15
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rixthcafuego, me, rather?11:15
lamegorodarvus, just need to update the xorg-core package ?11:15
LattywareI can test one for you, how should I got about it?11:15
ali1234meathead_: try setting a job to "touch ~/at-test" and see if that file turns up in your home dir11:15
rodarvuslamego, yes] 11:15
Calatorok so i executed this command11:15
mneptokMadpilot++11:15
Calator<ubotu> dibblego wants you to know: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb11:15
Calatorand it worked11:16
MorphDKLattyware, thank you :D the downgrade broke a few other things, and now I'll try your experimental version11:16
Calatorwas that the right thing to do?11:16
johnnybezakhow can i stop gnome screen saver from starting11:16
rodarvusMadpilot, thanks11:16
Madpilotno prob11:16
Lattyware...11:16
ali1234meathead_: maybe atd is not running on your machine? sudo /etc/init.d/atd start11:16
LattywareMorphDK: Got the wrong person, I think.11:16
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rodarvusLattyware, just update your xorg with one of the versions, and check if it works :)11:16
MorphDKLattyware, I guess..11:16
meathead_k11:16
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meathead_yeah, that worked11:17
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kameroni'm running kubuntu dapper x86, and i just did an update and upgrade.. and now X won't start.. KDM won't even load.11:17
KenSentMeIs the current xorg update i get the right one?11:17
dibblego!xorgbugfix > kameron11:17
meathead_ali1234: it maked a file called at-test in my home folder11:17
MorphDK:D11:17
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ali1234okay so at is certainly working11:17
lassegs!xorgbugfix > KenSentMe11:17
Calatorso i guess after downgrading we shouldnt upgrade again?11:17
Calatorcause it still says to upgrade11:17
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KenSentMelassegs: that was not my question.11:18
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meathead_ali1234: what about another program11:18
torporhi all11:18
lassegsKenSentMe: sorry11:18
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MorphDKrodarvus, would you recommend installing all the deb's from your experimental build? or is only the xserver-xorg needed?11:18
lassegshi11:18
meathead_ali1234: you try it with...vlc or something.. see if you can get it to work with an mp3?11:18
ali1234meathead_: that may help11:18
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KenSentMelassegs: people say the bug is fixed, but i want to know if the update i get is the bugfixed one11:18
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rodarvusMorphDK, you only need xserver-xorg-core, but you can install the other packages too, if you want11:19
Gun_SmokeI was wondering what is out there for temp sensor moniters?11:19
meathead_I just made like ten bad at jobs, how do I delete them?11:19
mneptokKenSentMe: if you delay the update for 24 hours you're mostly guaranteed a working copy11:19
lamegorodarvus, patch 992 didn't fixed11:19
dibblegomeathead_, atrm11:19
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torpori have a terrible problem today - last night the software update automatically updated my ubuntu box, and now the nvidia drivers refuse to work .. is there any recent activity on this that i can catch up on so that i can get my system back up and running again?  i've tried installing the NVIDA-run package (8762) and done the details on this page: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46678 but it still tells me "no Driver found" wh11:19
bahadirhello guys11:19
torpor!nvidia11:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:19
ali1234meathead_: atrm <job number>11:19
bahadirafter an electricity cut-off (few times), server giving x error11:19
KenSentMemneptok: shouldn't it get a different version number or something11:19
JoseStefan!xorgbug11:19
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).11:19
bahadirsaying "cannot find device"11:19
lamegoerm, what was the patch url ?11:20
mneptokKenSentMe: not necessarily11:20
lamegoforgot to download the other version :\11:20
lassegs!xorgbugfix > torpor11:20
mneptoklassegs: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:20
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meathead_k11:20
torporlassegs: thanks!11:20
lassegshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:20
lassegshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:20
lassegshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:20
bahadirhow may I rectify such errors11:20
lassegshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715311:20
ali1234meathead_: i still think the problem is that beep can't access the sound card or the sound mixer daemon, and that problem will probably affect any program you try11:20
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lassegssorry11:20
mneptokso are we :P11:21
lassegsthe client did it when i pressed it11:21
lassegssorry11:21
torporthanks tho'!11:21
meathead_ali1234: why is it when I type beep-blah manually it works fine, but when it's done through echo it doesn't work?11:21
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mneptoklassegs: burn two keys of your keyboard as a warning to the others11:21
lassegsi will ;(11:21
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aviswhat a relief11:22
avisi'm in Gnome now11:22
swarm:P11:22
torporokay so are there folks in this channel who have done the xserver downgrade and come out on top?11:22
avisi've already forgotten what made it work :P11:22
avisoh11:22
avisbleh !11:22
dibblegotorpor, yes11:22
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avisnot thinking !11:22
bahadirhow can I reinstall xserver ?11:22
torporgreat!11:22
torporthat worked!11:22
torporrebooting now ..11:22
avisthe wget xserver11:22
ali1234meathead_: cos at runs it in a different process.11:22
JoseStefan!xorgbug > bahadir11:23
torporthank you very much guys that is a huge relief .. can get back to work now ..11:23
meathead_so really... I can't use at for an alarm clock?11:23
swarmsudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.111:23
swarm:)11:23
lassegsnp torpor11:23
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torporubuntu wins again!11:23
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meathead_ali1234: so really... I can't use at for an alarm clock?11:24
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like_zhuHi, can anyone here teach me how to modify my screen resolution?11:24
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dibblegolike_zhu, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution11:24
swarmHow can I check how long a wvdial instance has been connected?11:24
avisat first i didn't know what was going on so i decided to redo my ubuntu box.  i added another hard drive, installed ubuntu from 1st edition cd's and when everything was said and done i was getting the exact same error prior to redoing my system !   i had done a system update after the channel topic alert.11:24
rodarvusany news on the two experimental packages I uploaded?11:24
lassegsmeathead_: i would hate waking up to the beep11:25
lamegorodarvus, yes, 005 works 992 does not11:25
rodarvusuntil now I received only one report that #992 doesn't fixes the problem11:25
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rodarvuslamego, so, #005 fixes the problem for you?11:25
lamegorodarvus, yes it did11:25
rodarvuslamego, thanks11:25
ali1234meathead_: i'm not sure... i'll tell you when i've tried it11:25
Quicksilvashit when i use xvidtune to allign my screen properly.  i get a massive x server error when i try to restart and i cant launch the gui11:25
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Quicksilvathen i have to use the live cd to get back in again and the screen is out :S11:25
dibblegolike_zhu, please use the channel11:26
Quicksilvaany idea what i can do?11:26
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lassegsQuicksilva: sure you didnt update the xorg`?11:26
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ali1234meathead_: okay when i tried it i heard the mp3 for like, 0.3 seconds11:26
Quicksilvahmm11:26
like_zhudibblego, i have only 1024x768 option11:26
Quicksilvadont think so :S11:26
ali1234meathead_: which seems to mean the process got killed after a short time11:26
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dibblegolike_zhu, modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:27
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Quicksilvathe only thing i did was do the auto update that came up once ubuntu has been installed11:27
Quicksilvathen go to xvidtune and adjust the screen11:27
lassegsQuicksilva:there u go11:27
like_zhuyes i know, i added 800x600 and 640x480, but it doesn't work11:27
meathead_ali1234: so...11:27
gnomefreakQuicksilva: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core11:27
JoseStefan!xorgbug > Quicksilva11:27
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gnomefreakwhat version is next to installed?11:27
frogzooanybody else upgrade fglrx & now gets xorg crapping out, complaing "no screens found" ?11:28
QuicksilvaOk. so i dont do the update and it will work11:28
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gebruiker123HELP MY PC WON'T SHUTDOWN AUTOMATICLY THAT"S IT REACHES SHUTDOWN BUT IT DOESN"T GO AUTOMATICLY OFF!?!?! HELP!!11:28
dibblegofrogzoo, only every single person in the channel - read the topic11:28
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lassegsfrogzoo: yes see topic11:28
gnomefreakfrogzoo: its xorg not the fglrx11:28
gnomefreakgebruiker123: lose the caps please11:28
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Madpilotgebruiker123, turn your caps lock OFF, please...11:28
frogzoodibblego: lassegs gnomefreak thx folks, sry for the noise11:28
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ali1234meathead_: the solution: echo 'beep-media-player foo.mp3 &' | at time11:28
swarmgebruiker123, Hey - are all those caps really necessary?11:29
meathead_I see11:29
meathead_what's the & do11:29
ali1234meathead_: ie put & after the command11:29
ali1234meathead_: it makes at not wait for the command to finish running, and therefore not kill it11:29
gebruiker123ok guys ok ok could please hlp me?11:29
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swarmgebruiker123, view http://www.eths.k12.il.us/manual_of_form_and_style/capitalization.html for assistance :)11:29
Meeper1Hi11:29
Meeper1I've got a problem installing Dapper11:29
Madpilotswarm, :D11:29
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lassegsMeeper1: what is it?11:30
gebruiker123My pc won't turn of automaticly why not?11:30
swarmyou typing shutdown -h now ?11:30
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swarmsudo shutdown -h now ?11:30
Meeper1It seems that Linux can't seem to have more than 15 partitions on my SATA drive, any idea why?11:30
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rodarvusfixed xorg-server packages have been uploaded to the archive. they should be published and mirrored in about one to two hours11:31
toxic_Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).11:31
meathead_because who the hell wants 15 paritions on one drive?11:31
swarmmeathead_, because they never figured you would need that many? :P11:31
Quicksilvagnomefreak: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core11:31
lassegsrodarvus: that took some time11:31
rodarvusthank you again for the testing11:31
Meeper1meathead_: it's my dad's PC, i didn't partition it ;)11:31
Quicksilvai can use the update then that will fix it?11:31
Quicksilvaor best not to update at all11:31
rodarvuslassegs, I hope you are kidding, right?11:31
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lassegsrodarvus:  :D11:31
daurn|laptopso11:31
gnomefreakQuicksilva: type that in terminal and tell me what version it says is installed11:31
P_71WWoohoo patch 005 fixed it.11:31
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daurn|laptophow do i add KVirc to the menu11:31
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fuciHi, thanks to the guy who helped me last night to get my SSH-server working11:31
fuci:)11:31
sc0ttyhello11:31
daurn|laptopand also give it an icon?11:31
rodarvusanyhow11:31
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rodarvusI need to get back to regular work.11:32
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meathead_ali1234: I have really bad luck, that didn't work either11:32
swarmhas anyone here used windows vista?11:32
Quicksilvagnomefreak: i'm running the livecd right now just installing11:32
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gnomefreakah ok11:32
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ali1234meathead_: doh. then i give up. you'll just have to install kde and kalarm11:32
gnomefreakswarm: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows11:32
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JoseStefanso are there new packages yet?11:33
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swarmokies, gnomefreak - thanks11:33
lordmortiswhere can i grab the appropriate xorg-core package? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb ?11:33
gnomefreakyw11:34
gnomefreakJoseStefan: new packages of what?11:34
mneptoklook11:34
mneptokat11:34
mneptokthe11:34
JoseStefanxserver-xorg-core11:34
mneptok /topic11:34
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lassegsJoseStefan: it youre think about the xorg it will be up in a few hours11:34
gnomefreakJoseStefan: the new one is broken11:34
mneptoklook. at. the. topic.11:34
meathead_ali1234: type it perfect for me one more time, I think it's just a synxtax error now. then I'll give up?11:34
JoseStefani mean the "newer" new one, cant i pull it from http yet?11:34
gnomefreakit should be released late morning mid afternoon11:35
Madpilotmneptok, nobody ever reads the /topic. Or the documentation. ;)11:35
gnomefreakMadpilot: nope they dont11:35
toxic_Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).11:35
mneptokMadpilot: what? sorry, wasn't paying attention ...  :P11:35
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lassegsJoseStefan: rodarvus just said it will be uploaded to the mirrors in a few hours11:35
frogzooit lives!!! - thank goodness for elinks :)11:35
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JoseStefanlassegs, i was thinking that by that he meant 3rd party mirrors, and that the main one would have it already11:36
MorphDKyeah.. back in Gnome again :D11:36
gablesYou can upgrade an install of 5.10 to 6.06 with upgrade-dist, right?11:36
Madpilotgables, ye11:36
Madpilotyes11:36
lassegsJoseStefan: i see.11:37
gablesOkay, just making sure, thanks.11:37
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lamegoJoseStefan, i do have the debian package that is going to be released :P11:38
gablesSize of partition suggested for a 6.06 install?11:38
JoseStefani know the version number :D11:38
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lamegoi am uploading it11:38
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Moodles!wpa11:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:38
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lamegoJoseStefan, http://lamego.pinto.googlepages.com/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb11:39
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Suplyndmnd*cheers* Here's to hoping I didn't just erase all my harddrives of all data11:39
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JoseStefanhow would i verify authenticity :|11:39
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gablesSuplyndmnd, good luck. :P11:40
lamegoJoseStefan, well, i got it from the package mantainer...11:40
Suplyndmndheh, thanks11:40
meathead_nope11:40
meathead_the world sucks11:40
aviscould someone please tell me how i can grow a reiserfs partition ?11:40
meathead_nevermind11:40
SuplyndmndIs there a UTimeMachine just incase?11:40
lamegodon't the packages include a signature ?11:40
avisgparted doesn't seem to give me that option11:40
JoseStefani dont know how to check that, i can just check MD5s11:40
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JoseStefanbut the MD5s are not on public domain yet11:41
lamegoJoseStefan, all ubuntu packagres are signed, you would get a warning11:41
gablesSize of partition suggested for a 6.06 install?11:41
gables10Gb be enough?11:41
frogzooavis: apt-cache search reiser |grep tool11:41
avisthank you11:41
lordmortisthanks heaps for the fix on the X11! good work! <goes back to configuring stuff>11:41
SuplyndmndGables, I tried 50gb and it said not enough space11:41
lamegoJoseStefan, well, if you dont trust me dont use it :P11:41
Suplyndmndbut I was told that shouldn't be11:41
adminosxhello all..11:41
JoseStefanlamego, i downloaded it, but will wait for public release, just to check hash11:41
toxic_Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).11:42
gablesHaha, that's ludicrous.11:42
SuplyndmndI hope all this yada yada makes sense one day11:42
adminosxi found info how start a small ppc ubuntu distro into a stick usb: is it possible? tnx11:42
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willy_hola11:42
Suplyndmndhola11:42
frogzoogables: I rec'd 10gig as comfortable, plus whatever for /home11:43
willy_hola que teal de donde eres11:43
gablesfrogzoo, okay, thanks.11:43
frogzoogables: also /var if you're planning dbs/web servers etc.11:43
SuplyndmndI gave it 110 gigs to do it's thing... I hope it allocates accordingly11:43
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willy_perdona esque soy espaol11:44
frogzoo!es11:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:44
hype!fr11:44
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:44
Suplyndmnd!gr11:44
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   11:44
Suplyndmndawesome11:44
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hype:D11:44
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Suplyndmndyeah, 2 people in there11:45
hypelol ^^11:45
hypepromote it !11:45
hype:D11:45
SuplyndmndChanServ being 111:45
SuplyndmndI was 211:45
hypeLOL11:45
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SuplyndmndI wonder if the developers of Ubuntu actually come in here11:46
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mneptokogra: do you think any Canonical employees ever use this channel?11:47
Suplyndmndsooooo it gets completely rid of all language packs?11:47
ogramneptok, indeed they do11:47
daunt  gnome-terminal: Depends: libvte4 (>= 1:0.12.1) but it is not going to be installed11:47
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daunt^^11:47
daunthow do i fix libvte4?  now even synaptic is borked ..11:47
Suplyndmnd*crosses fingers*11:48
Suplyndmndbrb... I hope11:48
dibblegothere was a user with a nick of Canonical here a few minutes ago11:48
ogramneptok, fabbione, mdz, Kamion, me and a bunch of others are usually here11:48
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lamego!! xgl > daunt11:48
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mnepwork:P11:48
dauntanyone got any clues?  libvte4 is not in my package database .. it seems only libvte9, but now synaptic needs ver 4?11:49
mneptokdaunt: try cleaning apt's package cache?11:49
lamegodaunt, did you read the message from ubotu ?11:49
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daunti have to install compiz/xgl to get libvte4 working?11:49
JoseStefanlamego, ok installed it, confirmed it on launchpad11:50
dauntlamego: yes i did, but its about compiz/xgl ..11:50
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lamegoJoseStefan, it fixed ?11:50
JoseStefanlamego, the quick restart worked11:50
lamegodaunt, your problem is about compiz/xgl, it came from xgl repositories11:50
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dauntoh shee-it, is that it?  i knew i shouldn't have added that stupid repository glibly ..11:50
lamegodaunt, xgl is beta :)11:51
dauntdamn11:51
protocol1is there a way to clear the history on a terminal or console?11:51
lamegoit broken synaptic to a lot of people11:51
daunt http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager11:51
dauntsorry11:51
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lamegoprotocol1, you mean, the bash history ?11:51
protocol1yes11:51
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toxic_Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).11:52
lamegoprotocol1, rm ~/.bash_history ; export HISTSIZE=011:52
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mneptokprotocol1: rm -rf .*_history11:52
hypebtw, is there a way to have auto completion on terminal as you type? (not using tab key)11:52
JoseStefani gtg, it's late11:53
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protocol1either one should do the job correct11:53
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Moodlesim trying to get wireless to work, I turned off router security yet it still can't connect to the router11:54
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Suplyndmnd*dances*11:55
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SuplyndmndI'm so happy now! *wipes tear* I can act better than Windows Users now :)11:56
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trpr_bah. like we don't have enough of that to go around already11:57
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protocol1lamego, so If I want to use my history again then I just add a value to that HISTSIZE right?11:57
lamegoprotocol1, yes, or just reopen a terminal11:57
protocol1ok cool11:57
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Suplyndmndokay, where is this blasted terminal everyone speaks of11:58
Suplyndmndnvm, found it :)11:58
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linavi got this weired problem11:59
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linavi cant see video in players11:59
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SuplyndmndI'll go with obvious... codecs installed correctly?12:00
linavi mean, it runs fine12:00
linavi can hear the sound12:00
linavbut not the video12:00
linavi installed the win32 codecs as well12:00
Suplyndmndyeah, but you might need the divx or xvid codecs12:00
linavand this happens in all the players, totem, vlc, mplyaer12:00
linavi tried so many DVD's12:01
Suplyndmndno DVD's either?12:01
linavand even otehr normal videos files12:01
linavno12:01
linavi dont see any error12:01
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linavi can hear the sound12:01
daurnimatorhi all12:01
daurnimatori'm trying to fix my resolution12:01
daurnimatorbut when i try to do it12:01
SuplyndmndI am stumped but that's not hard to do12:01
daurnimatordaurnimator@desktop:~$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom12:01
daurnimatorsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 23 08:08:02 200612:01
linavsuplyndmnd: how can i fix this12:02
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SuplyndmndI have no idea tbh12:02
daurnimatorhow do i get past ot?12:02
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daurn|laptopit12:02
dojohello12:02
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mtholdensscan someone help my dual boot ubuntu? i need help resizing my windows partition using PM...12:02
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vishamhi folks12:02
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dojodoes anyne know a alernative to netowrk-mager-gnome because the pakage12:02
vishamhow to change the console resolution12:02
dojojust wont install12:02
vishamno X12:03
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daurn|laptophello?12:03
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oskudevisham: vga=791 would set 800x600x32 (iirc)12:03
Quicksilvagnomefreak: do you know of a way to make the xvidtune changes save so they hold through a reboot12:03
adioe3Hi all, I had the X shit and I recovered it but my gdm.conf (not custom, the original) got deleted in the process, so could somebody paste his standard gdm.conf into some pastebin? Thanks.12:03
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mtholdenssdual booting ?12:03
gnomefreakwunope sorry i dont12:04
vishamoskude:how do i know what modes of resolution my moniter provides?12:04
gnomefreakQuicksilva: nope sorry i dont12:04
Tuxtoolmanok this is likely a dumb permissions problem12:04
Quicksilvakk cheers anyway12:04
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TuxtoolmanI ran a movie with mplayer via ssh from my zaurus on dapper12:04
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Tuxtoolmankilled it with ctrl-c12:05
oskudevisham: by reading its manual :) but there is a program that triest to find it out... dunno about the name12:05
Tuxtoolmanthen ran it again where it had problem opening either sound or video (dont remember error)12:05
adioe3Can anybody share a gdm.conf file?12:05
mneptokTuxtoolman: you mean you mounted the remote volume with ssh/scp?12:05
vishamoskude: is this console resolution(i.e no X server)?12:05
oskudevisham: yup12:05
Tuxtoolmanno ran it on my thinkpad ( I was bothering my wife)12:06
vishamoskude: thanks man  i will try it now12:06
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jacknadioe3 would love to. where's the pastebin please?12:06
mneptokTuxtoolman: you actually copied the file to the machine playing it, or ... ?12:06
Tuxtoolmanthen tried it again a few min later and no sound12:06
oskudevisham: you add it to the kernel boot options (tip, you can set them at grub boot, that way if you get a res that your monitor dont support, you need just to reboot)12:06
oskude:/12:06
adioe3jackn: umm, www.pastebin.com ?12:06
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bXiyo12:06
Tuxtoolmanno ssh'd in ran "mplayer movie.avi"12:06
adioe3jackn: and send back the link, thanks12:07
bXii got an update this morning about xserver-xorg12:07
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bXii installed it and my xorg wont start anymore12:07
mneptokTuxtoolman: ssh/scp is not the way to go for mounting remote volumes to use data from them. ssh/scp will always try to copy the file locally (even to a cache) to manipulate it. just copy the file and play locally.12:07
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adioe3How can you blacklist an update?12:07
Tuxtoolmanthen the second run I had to sudo to get past some unable to open error (don't remember)12:07
adioe3Especially this X.org one?12:07
Tuxtoolmannow sound is hosed on the laptop12:07
Tuxtoolmanalsa sound12:07
gnomefreak!blacklist > adioe312:07
jacknadioe3 Now is the file you need /etc/gdm/gdm.conf12:07
jackn?12:07
adioe3yes12:08
Tuxtoolmanmplayer was running on the laptop over top of the stuff my wife was running12:08
Tuxtoolmanfull screne from console12:08
jacknadioe3 OK, am at it, will let you know very soon. Stand by please.12:08
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Tuxtoolmanso the sound not working is now the problem12:09
adioe3gnomefreak: can you give an example for some package, say "pico" ?12:09
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TuxtoolmanI am at this machine now and aumix shows everything running12:09
Tuxtoolmanbeen awhile since I have had to debug sound12:09
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gnomefreaknope sorry not at the moment adioe3 i havetn done it in years12:10
avisi have a problem.  i have two reiserfs partitions next to each other, the second one containing /home, the first with blank data, and i would like to expand the /home partition to take the space of the 1st unused unmounted partition12:10
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TuxtoolmanI am sure it is a lock file or something12:10
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dalfzi installed the xorg-server upgrade due today, after that my xserver refuses to start, Xorg message is (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found12:10
adioe3gnomefreak: I'd just like this notifier to stop showing this flawed X update. Is there another way to do that?12:11
mtholdensssomeone hre is bound to help me with dual booting12:11
adioe3dalfz: read the topic12:11
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Moodleshow can I get the network-manager-gnome package, so I can burn it to a cd so my wireless computer can install it?12:11
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gnomefreakadioe3: remove the updater icon from panel12:11
MoonDuckwhere is the proper place to add something to PATH? should i just edit /etc/profile?12:12
gnomefreakadioe3: later today the fix will be out i would ignore it till than12:12
jacknadioe3 Here goes: http://pastebin.com/77312812:12
adioe3gnomefreak: oh, k thanks12:12
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adioe3jackn: dude you're a lifesaver, thanks very much12:12
jacknadioe3 no sweat. thanks for teaching me about the pastebin.12:13
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adioe3it saves time ... tell some of the ops to put it in the topic?12:14
jacknMoonDuck No. It depends on whether it's sytem-wide or just your user.12:14
DBOadioe3, put what in the topic?12:14
MoonDuckjackn, system-wide.12:14
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adioe3DBO: the pastebin.com website is a good site where folks can paste errors instead of the screen, so www.pastebin.com would be a nice thingy for the topic12:15
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jacknMoonduck. Add an 'export' command to /etc/bash.bashrc12:15
DBOadioe3, the ubuntu pastebin is already in the topic...12:15
DBOlook at the very end12:15
adioe3oh, sorry didn't see it, my ba12:15
adioe3bad*12:15
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lamegoadioe3, if you trust me you can get the xorg update from http://lamego.pinto.googlepages.com/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb12:16
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MoonDuckjackn, if you want *all* processes to see that variable, it should be in /etc/profile, not /etc/bash.bashrc.12:16
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adioe3lamego: is it a working one?12:16
MoonDuckjackn, it's an exported variable. no reason for it to be bash-specific.12:16
dalfzadioe3 hm, what is the console apt-get command to conduct the upgrade?12:16
livingdaylightwhat a shell script?12:16
DBOlamego, a simpler method is just sudo aptitude xserver-xorg-core/dapper12:16
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DBOlamego, a simpler method is just sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core/dapper12:16
lamegoadioe3, as far as I know thats the one that will be added to the updates today12:16
adioe3dalfz: umm, apt-get upgrade?12:16
Y4llowI need some help upgrading to Dapper, I'm using an external CD drive as my internal one doesn't work12:16
m_0_r_0_nHow can I list the depencies of a package?12:16
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adioe3lamego: will try it out12:16
lamegoDBO, uh ? even if the update yes not yet available on the repositories ?12:17
m_0_r_0_ndenpendencies12:17
livingdaylightinstalled cgoban using sh setup.sh and told to put shell script in a /bin file12:17
DBOlamego, oh never mind, you are doing the new update, not the revert12:17
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lamegoah :)12:17
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dalfzok trying to fix. thx12:17
jacknMoonduck, don't know, you might be right. Think that startup will go through both, don't know by what order.12:17
livingdaylightis it the one with jar?12:17
lamegom_0_r_0_n, apt-cache show package12:17
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MoonDuckjackn, it does. but it's still broken to put it there. an exported variable needs to be exported once. no reason to do it per-shell.12:17
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MoonDuckin any case, it's broken to put it in either. seems like /etc/environment is the answer.12:18
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MoonDuckthanks anyways.12:18
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Y4llowhow do I cahnge "apt-cdrom add" so it points to an external drive which is in /media/cdrom/ ???12:18
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jacknMoonduck, Oh, I get it, bash.bashrc will only add it when using bash, get your point.12:18
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MoonDuckjackn, not exactly, because it DOES get parsed by /etc/profile. but still, generally speaking envrionment needs to be set once, not every time you open a shell.12:19
frank_bI updated my "xorg-xserver" package yesterday and now it doesn't work anymore. is there anyway I can use the previous version instead?12:19
livingdaylighthello12:19
MoonDuckin any case /etc/environment is the proper place.12:19
lamego!! xorgbug  > frank_b12:19
Tuxtoolmanany ideas what would make mplayer from command line kill alsa?12:19
frank_bok, thanks lamego12:19
Tuxtoolmaneven after x and system restarts12:20
Tuxtoolmanand doing a synaptic full-remove of sound-base12:20
Tuxtoolmanlinux-sound-base12:20
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avisi'm going to backup my /home directory to my external usb drive.  once i've done that i'll need to wipe that drive it resides on and repartition it.  how do i get ubuntu to recognize the new /home and swap partitions ?12:21
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Y4llowhow do I cahnge "apt-cdrom add" so it points to an external drive which is in /media/cdrom/ ???12:21
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oskudeavis: afaik, they are all definied in /etc/fstab12:22
livingdaylightcan someone advise me?12:22
lamego!! anyone12:22
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ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:22
livingdaylightneed to transfer a shell script but don't know which one it is?12:23
SuplyndmndWow, this stuff is complicated :)12:23
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oskudelivingdaylight: first line in shell scripts is mostly "#!/bin/bash" ...12:23
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livingdaylightoskude: ok, i'll see which one starts like that12:24
oskudelivingdaylight: and "file foo.file" would say something too...12:24
InferusHi all, i'm trying to do a sudo apt-get install drupal, but it is telling me it wants to remove php5 and put php4 on, and I do not want this, is there any way to force it not to please?12:24
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lamegoInferus, you can install drupal manually, but that requires some web apps know-how12:25
MadpilotInferus, sounds like Drupal only works with php4, not php5...12:25
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riaalDo I need to compile a .sh program?12:25
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oskudeInferus: i doubt theres need to install that with apt-get...12:25
Inferushmm12:25
lamegoriaal, no, an .sh is a script, you can run it12:25
SuplyndmndI feel so geeky12:25
gnomefreakriaal: you dont compile it you run it with sh file.sh12:25
lamegoriaal, sh file.sh12:25
SuplyndmndIs there a ubuntu room just for chitchat?12:26
oskude #ubuntu-offtopic12:26
eyequeue!offtopic12:26
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:26
Y4llowHeya, I'm trying to upgrade to Dapper, but sudo apt-cdrom add doesn't  work becuase I'm using an external drive, solution?12:27
riaalWhat does "Cannot execure binary file" mean? It is a script I wort a long time ago..12:27
eyequeue!upgrade12:27
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.12:27
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oskudeY4llow: pastebin your command and the following error could help...12:28
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Y4llowim already there following it, and it's not connected to the net so I have to use the physical cd12:28
chris449hi, i'm new to linux but i'm also interested in running a linux server - file, http, hl2 and dc. Should i get ubuntu desktop or server? (i also want to play high end comp games eg, hl2)12:28
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lamegochris449, if you need to play games, you should use the desktop version to install12:28
Y4llowpastebin? sry I'm still learnin12:29
lamegolater you can install the server packages12:29
oskude!pastebin12:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:29
chris449lamego, yeh, i was about to say that, ok thanks12:29
chris449i'm off to dl it!12:29
chris449o and btw12:29
chris449how do ppl respond to the pastebin?12:29
oskudechris449: theres a linux client of hl2 ?12:29
chris449idk wine12:29
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oskudeok ...12:30
haydenis it possible to dual boot mac os x and ubuntu on an ibook?12:30
Y4llowcheers12:30
chris449lol12:30
oskudehayden: yup12:30
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chris449i posted a grub problem in the pastebin, how do ppl reply?12:30
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Flannelchris449: you paste us the URL12:30
oskudechris449: first you have to post the link here so people can see it...12:30
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haydenoskude, how would i got about doing that?12:31
chris449o damn, that woulda helped12:31
cbx33hi guys12:31
cbx33need some advice if anyone here has ever done anythuing like it12:31
cbx33normally when I do networking I put seperate trunking, but in this situation there is some trunking already there which has lighting power, and fire alarm cables going through it.  Am I ok to put ethernet cables through there as well12:31
bXiis there a way to reinstall ALL packages related to xserver-xorg?12:31
oskudehayden: sorry, no idea (dont have mac), i just know that it works12:31
bXii removed some due to the bug mentioned in the topic12:31
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chris449cbf now, cya later12:31
bXibut i already installed the fix mentioned there12:31
bXibut startx wont work at all now12:31
PuGzhey guys... i just did an upgrade and rebooted and now my X server doesn't work. i am using dapper. anyone else experiencing this?12:31
PuGzbXi: looks like you are?12:31
lamegobXi, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:32
lamegobXi, then apply the fix12:32
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bXiPuGz: see topic12:32
lamego?? xorgbug > PuGz12:32
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PuGzbXi: cheers12:32
PuGzlamego: cheers12:32
riaalPlease? What does "Cannot execure binary file" mean when trying to execute a script?? It is a script I wort a long time ago..12:33
user-land2interestingly, some wmv's are playing well on amd64 :-)12:33
oskuderiaal: it means what it says.. (if you ment "execute") maybe pastebin the script and error...12:33
Afief!xorgbug > Afief12:33
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riaaloskude: so its a error in the script?12:34
Inferuswhat does12:34
Inferuscp: omitting directory12:34
Inferusmean12:34
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oskuderiaal: propably...12:34
Inferusplease :012:34
bXiit means your trying to copy a directory12:34
Afiefso the only fix for the xorgbug is to downgrade?12:34
Inferusyep12:34
cherokeegirlhow does one remove broken packages in synaptic?12:34
bXiyou should add -r12:34
Inferusok thanks12:34
bXicp -r folder destination12:34
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Inferusty12:34
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cherokeegirlnm12:36
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dojosoz i was away eatiing breakfast12:36
dojocan someone tell me12:36
dojoa alternative to netowkr-manager-gnome12:36
BeepAUhey everyone, here's my problem. i'm running a dual-boot on my computer with ubuntu and windows xp. i much prefer ubuntu, but windows is kept to appease the other people in my household. anyway, my adsl modem also runs to my brother's computer. the adsl modem goes to a switch, which connects to both computers. when this computer is running windows, both it and my brother's computer can...12:36
BeepAU...access the internet. however, when ubuntu is running, my brother is cut-off. how can i fix this? btw i'm quite new to linux.12:36
haydenanyone know how i can dual boot with osx/ubuntu ?12:37
dojobecause the pakage wont install12:37
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oskudeBeepAU: so youre use "share internet connection" under windowsxp ?12:38
RvGaTeBeepAU, could be easily fixed by buying a router... and pt your machine to the switch... or create a gateway on your current setup12:38
BeepAUoskude -- i don't believe so.12:39
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BeepAUBeepAU -- i already bought the switch so we could both have access, can't i achieve this without a router?12:39
redbladesHi all, I just plugged in a desktop microphone, and I can't seem to pick up any sound with it.12:39
oskudeBeepAU: and who makes the connection with your isp ?12:39
BeepAURvGaTe -- i already bought the switch so we could both have access, can't i achieve this without a router?12:39
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BeepAUoskude -- the computer i use does.12:40
redbladesThe sound comes through the speakers, but I've tried reecording, and nothing.12:40
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Almindordoes 64bit ubuntu have aspell package?12:40
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HoxzerHow do I fix fatal error: no devices found ? It started appearing after some update12:40
Hoxzerwhen I do startx12:40
oskudeBeepAU: ok, and how did the other windowsxp get to internet when the other made the connection ?12:41
RvGaTeBeepAU, a router handles the internet traffic like you do now... it shares the internet to everyone in the internal network... its a rather small device, less power consuming, and you dont have to turn 2 pc's on to use internet...12:41
jonholioanyone know of packages for firefox 2?12:41
BeepAUoskude -- he connects normally.12:41
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oskudeBeepAU: you could both use the modem to connect to the isp at the same time ?12:42
Inferushmmm12:42
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BeepAUoskude -- yes12:42
Inferusi cant get my root password set on mysql12:42
oskude...12:42
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Thunderpantswhats the address of source o matic?12:42
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bimberi!easysource12:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:43
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Hoxzerhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957&highlight=Fatal+server+error%3A+devices+found :O :((((( WHY oh whhy12:43
Thunderpantsthx bimberi12:43
bimberiThunderpants: np :)12:43
oskudeBeepAU: thats new to me that you can do that...12:43
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Rozihi12:44
BeepAUoskude -- why shouldn't i be able to?12:44
Rozianyone know easy step-by-step postfix instalation guide for newb? :)12:44
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oskudeBeepAU: cause its only one "line", like you cant call 2 calls with one telephone line at the same time...12:44
BeepAUoskude -- it's one constant connection going to both computers.12:45
frank_blamego: the xorg downgrade gives me a "teporary failure in name rsolution"12:45
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oskudeBeepAU: constant connection ?12:45
frank_b*temporary12:45
Inferushow do I go about setting the root password for mysql please?12:45
oskudeBeepAU: you just said you used pc to "call" the isp and make the connection...12:46
BeepAUoskude -- well yes, it's broadband, it's on all the time.12:46
oskudeBeepAU: ah ok. then whats the problem ?12:46
RoziInferus:  mysqladmin -u root password new_password12:46
TheGateKeeperis xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 the one that is breaking everyone's system???12:47
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BeepAUoskude -- when i'm in ubuntu, he can't access the connection. his internet doesn't work. do i need to set something up in the networking section to allow access?12:47
adioe3lamego: thanks for the update, it works12:47
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InferusRozi:12:48
Inferusmysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed12:48
Inferuserror: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'12:48
Inferusafter i tried to set the pass12:48
oskudeBeepAU: hmm, i allways used only routers... and i cant think why it doesnt work with a switch...12:48
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avisdoes anyone have the latest beta 1.2.4 .deb build of nicotine+ for dapper ?  osirus.codedchaos.com is down.12:49
Clinton__There is an update to xserver-xorg-core to Dapper that is breaking my X.  When updated and I restart X, I get the error "No screens found".  I managed to downgrade to the previous version to get my X back, but any ideas why this might be happening with the latest upgrade?12:49
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oskudeBeepAU: i doubt you need to set anything in pc side, as the connection is not through them...12:49
BeepAUoskude -- do i need to set up a dns server or something?12:49
oskudeBeepAU: i doubt, you got dns at your isp...12:50
Caelian|workHmmm .. i just did a fresh install .. and upon login i was notified of 4 updates being available .. 1 of them being xserver-xorg-core ... after this update X no longer wants to start up ... any known fixes for this ?12:50
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Caelian|workit claims it can't find any screens12:50
Clinton__Caelian|work: I'm here for that same reason12:50
gnomefreakCaelian|work: read /topic please12:50
oskudeBeepAU: maybe you took the same ip address in ubuntu as in windowsxp ?12:50
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gnomefreakClinton__: read /topic please12:50
Caelian|workdoh .. will look12:50
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InferusCan someone help me sort out my mysql as it is really difficult, I can log onto the server as root on putty12:50
Inferusbut the same root pass doesnt work12:50
Inferusfor users12:50
BeepAUoskude -- would that happen if i didn't change anything?12:51
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avisthe ubuntu development team must be right on this issue i assume ??12:51
oskudeBeepAU: dunno... i assume you dont have dhcp in your network, so you have give it manually...12:52
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BeepAUoskude -- in networking, in the ethernet connection properties, the configuration is dhcp.12:53
QuicksilvaIs there a way of making an ntfs drive to be mounted and used12:53
oskudeBeepAU: hmm, does your modem have dhcp ?12:53
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deltabInferus: mysqk's root user is completely separate12:53
bimberi!ntfs12:53
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:53
BeepAUoskude -- i don't know what dhcp even is.12:53
Quicksilva!ntfs12:54
oskudeBeepAU: and do check what ips your machines have, "ifconfig" under linux, and iirc "ipconfig" under windowsxp12:54
deltabipconfig /all12:54
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oskudeBeepAU: dhcp is a service that gives machines ip addresses automaticly/dynamicly...12:54
daurnimatorcould someone please explain this to me?12:54
daurnimatordaurnimator@desktop:~$  aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf12:54
daurnimatorUninitialised file found, configuring.12:54
daurnimatorUsing /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:54
daurnimatorSaved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-012:54
daurnimatoraticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.12:54
daurn|laptopwhats a Bad file descriptor?12:55
daurn|laptop:S12:55
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deltabdaurnimator: file descriptors are numbers that identify files that have been opened12:56
rkdare you root? does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?12:56
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daurnimatorah12:56
daurnimatorwasn;t root12:56
daurnimator:p12:56
daurn|laptop - i'm a noob12:56
daurn|laptopplease help me get my ati card setup12:56
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BeepAUoskude -- i think i've fixed it. thanks for your help.12:56
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oskudeBeepAU: what was it ?12:57
oskude:/12:57
daurn|laptopany1?12:58
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Afiefso the only fix for the xorgbug is to downgrade?12:59
JoshHendoIn what way do you need help daurn?12:59
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daurn|laptopgetting aticonfig setup properly01:00
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daurn|laptopi remember in previous times having lots of issues01:00
taliosAfief: 10.4_i386 has apparantly been uploaded, havn't tried it myself yet01:00
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mcbuddhahi all! i installed ubuntu 6.06.1 and i 'lost' a partition. my /home was on /dev/hda6. before installing i set that mount /home onto /dev/hda6 and no format. after rebooting i don't have my folders of the old partition, i have the new 'desktop' and 'examples' folder on /home. looked at my partitions in administrtion and there is ~5GiB used on /dev/hda6 (i had that ~5GiB on the old partition). so it looks that i have my files, but i can't r01:00
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dojocan someone help01:02
dojowhen i try to install01:02
dojonetwork-manager-gnome01:02
dojoit doesnt install properly it just coloses when i click install01:02
dojoi installed all the pakages needed for it01:02
ali1234is it possible to install a 2.6.12 kernel on dapper?01:03
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xophereverything's possible01:03
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ali1234xopher: will it actually work properly?01:03
Casanovahow do i dist-upgrade from dapper to efty?01:03
Casanovawhat should i change `dapper' to in my sources.list file?01:04
goki-efty edge?01:04
dojoits been enoying me cause i have been trying to get connected to the internet for the past few days01:04
xopherali1234, cant say, depens on your hardware, but try it out and youll see01:04
eyequeue!upgrade01:04
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.01:04
dojoandive installed the drivers01:04
dojoand when i go to the other netowrk-admin01:04
dojoand set the ESSID to my network01:04
dojoi still cant get onto the internet01:04
IvanowitchDojo, what kind of encryption do you use?01:05
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dojoafk01:05
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PhilsenAskhi guys01:05
rkdhi01:05
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Casanovaeyequeue: it doesnt say how to go from dapper --> efty01:06
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eyequeue!upgrade01:06
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.01:06
oskudeCasanova: efty is still under development...01:06
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eyequeueCasanova, the -d command at the end01:06
Casanovaok01:06
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Casanovathanks :)01:07
StargazersHi. How I can see what version of GTK+ I have?01:07
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PhilsenAskcan someone tell me what basic structure of mysql is01:07
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avustargazers: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-001:07
ugaritmy laptop has the Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express.  How do I enable opengl?01:07
rkdPhilsenAsk: what do you mean?01:07
Stargazersavu: Thx, let me see01:07
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Stargazersavu: Thank you very much! :)01:08
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avustargazers: you're most welcome (:01:08
StargazersSo, if I manually update it from sources, should I apt-get remove that old version?01:09
frogzoolooks like latest fglrx fix fixed suspend01:09
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avustargazers: Hm, do you want to change dapper from 2.8 to 2.10 or something like that?01:09
fluvvellsry01:09
sven_why is edgy eft install cd so large?01:09
fluvvellsheesh it was 4 lines01:09
sven_it does not fit on a cd01:09
Stargazersavu: Yes, I have dapper and 2.8 but I downloaded 2.10 and just want to compile and use it?01:09
StargazersShould I remove older?01:10
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oskudeStargazers: you shouldnt update anything from source if you dont know what youre doing...01:10
avustargazers: You are almost sure to break a lot of things if you do so01:10
StargazersMmh? Why?01:10
avustargazers: many programs in dapper are linked against gtk 2.801:10
Stargazersoskude: Yep, sure, but I just use linux to test everything :P01:10
Stargazersavu: Oh01:10
oskudeStargazers: i would install it to /usr/local/ do you wont be messing anything...01:11
avustargazers: if you want alinux testing- (as oposed to work-) environment with gtk 2.10, installing edgy *might* be, what you want01:11
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avustargazers: or, as oskude, you could install the new gtk to a 'safe' location01:11
gnomefreakwhat file would i delete to change gnome desktop to original settings01:11
Stargazersavu: Oh, well, that was what I thought also couple of days ago.01:12
avustargazers: from a testing perspective, that would not be the same though01:12
StargazersWell, hmm.01:12
sven_does anybody know why is edgy eft install cd so LARGE that it does not fit on a cd?01:12
Stargazersavu: So, edgy eft is out there already? I mean that of course I know that is only a testing version, but is it downloadable already somewhere?01:12
gnomefreaksven_: its being worked on and sven_ edgy questions go to #ubuntu+101:12
avugnomefreak: ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*?01:13
gnomefreaksstno01:13
oskudesven_: huh ? which one ? last time i got burned edgy all was ok...01:13
gnomefreakyes than01:13
sven_it is 703 megabytes01:13
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sven_but cd-s are 700 megabytes01:13
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avustargazers: yes, there is a install CD called knot 1. sven_ is just talking about it being to large for his taste... ;)01:13
oskudesven_: i got some 800mb ;)01:13
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Stargazersavu: Well, it is from sources too? I like more to use apt-get dist-upgrade like with Dapper01:14
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gnomefreakit will be back to regular size by release01:14
sven_oskude: where do you burn it?01:14
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mRCUTEOanyone knows how to send broadcast message in ubuntu?01:14
avustargazers: sure01:14
Stargazersavu: Oh? I can01:14
Stargazerscan01:14
StargazersFUCK01:14
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Stargazerscan't find it :D01:14
StargazersSorry01:14
StargazersTwo times same typo (pressed ENTER)01:14
chemajamRCUTEO, wall?01:14
Stargazers:P01:14
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avustargazers: you can debootstrap a dapper and dist-upgrade that. Or dist-upgrade your current dapper installation01:14
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oskudesven_: i used 700mb cdrom medium... but as gnomefreak said, there seems to be a known "problem"...01:15
DBO!language > Stargazers01:15
Stargazersfluvvell: :(01:15
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avustargazers: change every occurence of 'dapper' to 'edgy' in your /etc/apt/sources.list01:15
Stargazersoh, so easy :O01:15
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fluvvellStargazers: its an anti typo fish01:15
avustargazers: then do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade01:15
StargazersRrright01:15
StargazersHave to test it01:15
mRCUTEOchemaja didmt seems to work :)01:15
asranielhi, a friend of mine asked me to fix his computer. his email is slow and he uses evolution. he told me that the actual data transfer is at normal speed but that the emails are slow. could this be the ipv6 problem? or are there some known problems with evolution?01:15
gnomefreakok everyone edgy questions/support is in #ubuntu+101:15
avu!upgrade01:15
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.01:15
chemajamRCUTEO, it works for ttys01:15
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mRCUTEOroot@216:~# wall hello world01:16
mRCUTEOusage: wall [file] 01:16
chemajamRCUTEO, not sure about a GUI version01:16
avustargazers: there you have a more graphical variant if you prefer that01:16
chemajamRCUTEO, probably something with that gnome notification area01:16
Stargazers:)01:16
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chemajamRCUTEO, maybe it's not developed yet01:16
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PhilsenAski want to create a sql database for mediawikki01:16
avustargazers: (not the last sentence in the !upgrade-factoid)01:16
avustargazers: erm, now I am typo-ing myself01:16
lostincWhat is the cause of the x server issue?01:16
avustargazers: note, not not :)01:16
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mRCUTEOoh..01:16
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mRCUTEO;)01:17
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avugnomefreak: sorry01:17
InferusHey people, how do I allow apache access to write in a folder, like /var/www/drupal/files01:17
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Inferusits got permission errors01:17
Inferusdont i have to chmod or something?01:17
StargazersYep01:17
Inferusmind explaining how please?01:18
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erUSULanybody has experienced X breakage with the last updarte? i know of two people already...01:18
avuinferus: chown www-data: dir/ should do01:18
InferuserUSUL view topic01:18
Inferusty avalost01:18
Inferusavu*01:18
avuinferus: be sure to know what you're doing there, though01:18
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Inferussorted01:18
Inferusty avu01:18
avuinferus: especially in a shared hosting environment, the security implications could be staggering! ;)01:19
DJAdmiralHi, after I downloaded and installed the new xserver-xorg-core update my PC can't boot X. Help?01:19
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treb0rhey chaps01:19
oskudefrom the topic: If X is broken after a recent update please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715301:19
DJAdmiraloskude: sorry - didn't notice01:20
StargazersSo, have to download edgy o/ Thx for help, have to test it... C u01:20
treb0rI just hosed my ubuntu install by inadvertantly pressing 'hibernate' instead of 'shutdown'. Now my X server won't start because it can't find a screen. any help would be fantastic...01:20
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lostincoskude is there a page explaining what happened?01:20
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InferusWow, drupal is awesome01:21
Suplyndmndman... THAT sucked01:21
treb0rI just updayed by box too, maybe that's what happenede to me...01:21
oskudelostinc: no idea... did you read the bugreport completely ? ;)01:21
treb0rupdated my box01:21
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Inferustreb0r me too01:21
Inferus:D01:21
Inferusbut i dont care01:21
Inferusi use putty ^_^01:21
Inferusits rare I actually use my server01:22
Inferusin GUI mode01:22
OmegaNineAnyone else having issues with the new xorg update?01:22
Suplyndmnd!offtopic01:22
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:22
frogzootreb0r: see the topic ^^^01:22
lostincLOL okkude who really reads every bug report completely?01:22
treb0rInferus: ok, I feel a little better01:22
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Inferustreb0r they'll probably fix it in a short space of time01:22
Inferus:)01:22
Inferuseither that01:22
Inferusor reinstall an older version01:22
javiolohey01:23
oskudelostinc: the ones who wants to know whats happening...01:23
lostincWhat print system does gnome use on ubuntu?01:23
frogzooInferus: read the bug report - install the older xserver core & back in business01:23
OmegaNineAnyone else having issues with the new xorg update?  After installing it, it told me it cant find a screen01:23
treb0rfrogzoo: How would I roll back to the older version?01:23
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eyequeueOmegaNine, /topic01:23
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frogzooOmegaNine: see the topic - read the bug report - instal the backdated xserver core01:23
frogzootreb0r: read the bug report01:23
phreakyshey01:23
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treb0rfrogzoo: where do if ind the bug report?01:24
OmegaNineOh, didnt realize you guys where talking to me before.01:24
phreakysi installed ubuntu + compiz/xgl, looks great!01:24
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OmegaNineSorry01:24
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eyequeuetreb0r,  /topic01:24
phreakyswonder if its possible to have seperate desktop backgrounds for the cube?01:24
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treb0rthanks chaps01:24
avuphreakys: try #ubuntu-xgl - you might find more expertise regarding this topic there :)01:24
OmegaNinephreakys Yeah, its just a matter of seting up the BGs for your dif desktops01:25
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Inferuswhats compiz/xgl ?01:26
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eyequeue!xgl01:26
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:26
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aviswhat chmod properties does a users home directory have ?01:26
Inferusphreakys got any screenshots?01:27
oskudeavis: i got drwxr-xr-x01:27
frogzooavis: 755 or 77501:27
avisthank you01:27
frogzooavis: or 700 if paranoid01:27
avisok01:27
OmegaNineUgh http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb, i get to write that down, reboot and type it in...wonder how many times i will F that up :P01:27
OmegaNineThanks for the help though!01:27
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nryexit01:28
avisi'm going to wipe my home dir and then i wont be able to login to gnome anymore seeing as my user home dir wont be there anymore.  i assume i'm dumped to terminal where i edit fstab ?01:28
aviswipe the drive my home dir is on01:28
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avisi could not grow my reiserfs partitions01:29
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Inferusdoes this XGL thing, basically make linux look like windows vista?01:29
Inferustransparancy and that01:29
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nrythanks ppl for the xserver bug solution01:29
aLPHa_LeaKInferus: better effects tho01:29
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eyequeueInferus, no idea, it requires special hardware01:30
xasayahello01:30
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xasayai'm looking for some Ubuntu's user form01:30
xasayafrom taiwan01:30
xasaya?01:30
eyequeuewhat is the country code?01:31
SuplyndmndHow do I get GuildWars to run on here? :) TY01:31
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nryi'm not in taiwan but grretings from Switzerland01:31
LattywareSuplyndmnd: You'd have to try Wine.01:31
SuplyndmndI did01:31
LattywareNot sure if it'll work.01:31
rixthHow can I get sound in sync with Flash?01:31
BlueEagleubotu: tell xasaya about tw01:31
Suplyndmndsays it cant use gw.dat01:32
PingunZhey, I want to set up a phpBB forum in ubuntu. I dont want to host it myself, just put the forum online. how can I do that ?01:32
QuicksilvaI followed the help on mounting a ntfs drive but no luck :<   anyone that could assist me01:32
BlueEagleubotu: tell quicksilva about anyone01:32
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oskudePingunZ: what ?01:32
Quicksilvamy question is.  how do i mount a ntfs drive... :p01:33
eyequeueman mount01:33
PingunZoskude: I want to install a a phpbb forum, and be able to test it in localhost.01:33
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BlueEaglepingunz: If you're not hostin it yourself odds are that you won't be hosting it on a machine running ubuntu. As for setting up phpBB refer to the forums. What you need to set it up on your local box is apache, mysql and mod-php.01:34
oskudePingunZ: ah ok, and wheres the problem ? where to start ?01:34
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BlueEaglequicksilva: !ntfs didn't work you say?01:34
BlueEagle!ntfs01:34
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:34
oskude!lamp > PingunZ01:34
Quicksilvayeah i read through it01:34
Quicksilvaand followed what it said01:34
BlueEaglequicksilva: ...and did you get any error messages at all=01:34
BlueEagle?01:34
Quicksilvanope01:35
oskudePingunZ: and when you got "lamp" installed you just install phpBB according to their instructions...01:35
Quicksilvai did it the auto way and i noticed01:35
Quicksilva2 secs..01:36
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eyequeueQuicksilva, man mount didn't work there?01:36
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BlueEaglequicksilva: If you executed the script then "The script will generate some output, regardless of whether it succeeds or not. Read the output as it will indicate errors and things you should read."01:38
Quicksilvaok will do that now01:38
xasayathx BlueEagle01:38
BlueEaglexasaya: np :)01:39
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baboyesterday some javascript on the bebo website crashed firefox repeatedly. Today a runaway while loop in firefox crashed gnome and I had to log into my terminal again ? WTF ?01:39
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BlueEaglequicksilva: also a prerequisite of the scritp is that the ntfs partitions is not already mounted. Ubuntu installer generates mount points and entries in /etc/fstab by default iirc. Might be a good idea to remove those.01:40
QuicksilvaIgnoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab01:40
QuicksilvaNo usable windows/mac partitions found01:40
chestyanyone played with xen under edgy? I'm getting some hotplug error message01:40
Quicksilvahdb1 is the ntfs drive01:41
Quicksilvahmm01:41
BlueEaglequicksilva: Then you'll need to remove it from the fstab before running the script.01:41
xasayawrite on ntfs isn't yet stable?01:41
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BlueEaglexasaya: That is correct. You cannot write to ntfs (reliably) on linux yet.01:41
BlueEaglexasaya: Feel free to email microsoft about that. ;D01:42
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eyequeuexasaya, the author has made the spec proprietary :(  write them and ask for a change if you want01:42
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rcklmki think ntfs writing module is not experimental again01:42
xasayayeah, good idea...01:43
rkdisn't ntfs-3g working fine?01:43
lassegsrkd: it does01:43
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BlueEaglequicksilva: When reading a how-to it's generally concidered a good idea to read the entire how-to. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-7d5da05389ce1c069142effba13bc3ff1e71d7bb 'script assumptions')01:44
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fdrHello... I'm having problems installing a package with apt... can somebody help me please? The error is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2138201:44
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_X_does anyone here have a direct link to the latest ndiswrapper.deb?01:44
fdrthank you01:44
rkdxasaya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 has ntfs writing information01:44
eyequeue_X_, packages.ubuntu.com01:45
xasayathks01:45
BlueEaglefdr: That looked very italian. Perhaps #ubuntu-it would be more likely to understand it. :)01:45
_X_thanks, eyequeue01:45
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J_Phi all01:46
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BlueEaglefdr: It seems that libGL.so.1.2 is missing, so is your question where you can find it?01:46
fdrBlueEagle, it *is* very Italian. :-)  Is there a way to have apt give messages in English? Maybe by exporting some shell variables?01:47
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Lymphhi01:47
grrrrrrhi01:47
Lymphwhat is an ubuntu?01:47
kyjaummm, one have my machines updated and now complains xserver is not configured properly.01:47
kyjahelp01:47
kyjawhats a Lymph?01:47
BlueEaglefdr: I guess it is but I don't know what it is. I am guessing LOCALE01:47
eyequeuekyja, /topic01:47
oskudefdr: yes, but i forgot what it was called...01:47
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kyjahehe just kidding.01:47
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grrrrrrsomeone has problems with ati XORG drivers?01:47
sc0tchHi, I had a quick install question, I have the Kismet Package from the repo installed, and I just downloaed the latest srouce tarball and compiled it, should I uninstall the original package before doing a make install from source?01:47
rkdBlueEagle: i don't speak italian, but it looks like it can't create the libgl file01:47
BlueEagleubotu: tell grrrrrr about xorgbug01:47
Lymphok01:47
grrrrrrI just updated this morning de xserver01:48
kyjaah hehe thaks eyequeue01:48
!lilo:*! web update, http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#termination (edge case cleanup; single channels versus total move)01:48
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fdrBlueEagle, the point is that I was having the same problems by upgrading ia32-libs, so I decided to use dpkg to force uninstall, and now I am trying to reinstall it...01:48
fdrbut doesnt work :-(01:48
grrrrrrand the xorg doesn't detect the device...01:48
BlueEaglerkd: To me it looks like the libgl file is assumed to be there but yet missing. (ie a missing dependency)01:48
remongrrrrrr: radeon card ?01:48
xasayasome problem with the update xserver, no?01:48
grrrrrryes remon01:48
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remonsame here01:48
BlueEaglegrrrrrr: did you read the message you got from ubotu yet?01:48
daurn|laptop[21:45:35]  <daurnimator> what have i done wrong?:01:48
daurn|laptop[21:45:36]  <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:/mnt$ sudo mount -o 1000 -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage01:48
daurn|laptop[21:45:37]  <daurnimator> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,01:48
daurn|laptop[21:45:37]  <daurnimator> missing codepage or other error01:48
grrrrrrand IGP mobility 350M01:48
daurn|laptop^^ please help01:48
grrrrrrno BlueEagle01:49
BlueEaglegrrrrrr: please do.01:49
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void^daurn|laptop: what's -o 1000 supposed to mean?01:49
erUSULgrrrrrr: view the topic01:49
daurn|laptopuserid?01:49
erUSULgrrrrrr:  Use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.01:49
gnomefreakdaurn|laptop: dont paste in here. please use pastebin01:49
daurn|laptopsomeone before gave it to me01:49
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erUSULgrrrrrr: it will revert the update01:49
void^daurn|laptop: that would be -o uid=100001:49
grrrrrrthanks erUSUL01:49
grrrrrr:)01:49
daurn|laptopag01:49
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daurn|laptopthank you01:49
rkdBlueEagle: 'impossibile creare' looks like 'can't create', and it's a file in /usrlib32 when trying to install the ia32-libs package, suggesting that the package is trying to create it01:49
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rkd/usr/lib32, rather01:50
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fdrBlueEagle, and "nessun file o directory" means: "no file or directory"01:50
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erUSULrkd: BlueEagle the error comes to a non existing dir '/usr/lib32/'01:50
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daurn|laptopok01:51
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daurn|laptopnow i've got the same error, on a different partition01:51
daurn|laptop:P01:51
BlueEaglefdr: amd64 platform?01:51
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fdrerUSUL, BlueEagle but /usr/lib32/ exists01:51
fdrBlueEagle, yes, amd6401:51
rkdfdr: it seems to be looking for "./usr/lib32"01:51
BlueEaglefdr: Never used. Makes for hard debugging. :)01:52
grrrrrrit works!!!01:52
grrrrrr:D01:52
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rkdfdr: cd / and try it again01:52
grrrrrrhey, thank you so much, guys01:52
BlueEaglegrrrrrr: You're most welcome.01:52
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grrrrrr:))01:52
grrrrrrthanks again...see you!01:52
daurnimatordaurnimator@desktop:/mnt$ sudo mount -o uid=1000 -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt/Emulation01:52
daurnimatormount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,01:52
daurnimator       missing codepage or other error01:52
BlueEaglegrrrrrr: oh, and read what ubotu tells you about in the future. It's very often very helpful. ;D01:52
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daurn|laptopwhats wrong this time?01:53
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fdrrkd, tried, but unfortunately doesn't work...01:53
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BlueEagledaurn|laptop: sudo fdisk -l|grep sda501:53
xasayathere is a project for an adaptation of K3b or something like that under gnome, i don't want to install the kde library and i don't want to user wine with shrinkdvd01:54
daurnimatorfdisk?01:54
xasaya?01:54
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fdrrkd, have you got any other ideas please?01:54
BlueEagledaurnimator: to make sure that sda5 is indeed an ntfs partition.01:54
MeTTYhi all, the xorg-core upgrade tomorrow is messed up this machine, how can i fix it?01:54
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daurnimatorDisk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table01:54
daurnimator/dev/sda5           24322       48642   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS01:54
lukkettometty: ubuntuforums....01:54
MeTTYluketto i'm on tty01:54
rkdfdr: hmmm01:54
lukkettometty: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:55
MeTTYplease help, it hionk it's not complicated, and this error caused a for tohusands of users01:55
MeTTYhm, thx01:55
lukkettometty: it's a downgrade01:55
MeTTYyes, i'm understand01:55
daurnimatorBlueEagle: ?01:55
lukkettoOK;)01:55
rkdfdr: try running strace aptitude install ia32-libs (might need to install strace first) and see exactly what path it's trying to reach01:56
Spudz0rhey folks, im currently in cmdline mode, i'm running ubuntu dapper, and did an update earlier on, for xserver-xorg, and now my GUI wont start :S, i've never had this problem before on this computer (i've had it on another computer, but that was due to nvidia drivers having to mod the kernel again), anyone know what/s up?01:56
rkdSpudz0r: /topic01:56
geserMeTTY: or wait the new packages for xserver-xorg-core hit the archive/mirrors01:56
BlueEagledaurnimator: Then it might be a bad superblock or missing codepage or other error. That mount command should in theory work. To be on the safe side try: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/Emulation01:56
lukkettoSpudz0r: I've just written . sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1001:56
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xevilis everyone xserver hosed after the xserver-xorg-core update?01:57
daurnimatorsame error01:57
BlueEagledaurnimator: if that gives the same error then I do not know how to fix it. It might be a broken partition.01:57
daurnimatorits not broken01:57
MeTTYxevil yes01:57
daurnimatorworks fine in window01:57
daurnimators01:57
BlueEagledaurnimator: Just because windows can read it doesn't mean that it's not broken.01:57
daurnimatorand - actually has all my stuff backed up onto it01:57
raveneyethnx all for the reverse X update sollution. I almost started crying after the update.01:57
daurnimatori had to move everything off my ide drive to install ubuntu01:57
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fdrrkd, the output is *very* verbose... where do I look for?01:58
daurnimatoris there something special to do because its a logical partition?01:58
rkdfdr: pipe it to 'grep libGL'01:59
fdroki01:59
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erUSULxevil: see topic and  Use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.01:59
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fdrrkd, just piping with | doesn't work because the verbose stuff is on stderr...02:00
fdri'll try redirecting on a file first02:00
BlueEagledaurnimator: nope. Should mount the same way.02:00
xevilerUSUL: I was just reading that... thanks02:00
daurnimatorso02:00
lukkettofabbione: ciao, perch non si ferma l'update di xorg?02:00
daurnimatorwhat do i do?02:00
daurnimatori need the data on it02:00
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fdrrkd,   impossibile creare `./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2': Nessun file o directory02:01
utabhi, I have a script which helps me mount some network drive02:01
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BlueEagledaurnimator: it being a windows parititon I'd recomend you boot windows and attempt to find a util to fix it. Either that or burn out all the data to a couple of DVDs.02:01
fabbionelukketto: ?02:01
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daurnimatori don't have windows anymore02:01
daurnimator:S02:01
rkdfdr: that's the only output mentioning libgl?02:01
Spudz0rthx guys, reboot time :D02:01
daurnimatorbtw, does this help?:02:01
void^daurnimator: see if dmesg has any interesting output02:01
utabbut the problem is that I have to run the script every time I want to connect to these drives, where sould I put this script to automount them when I login02:01
BlueEagledaurnimator: Then I recomend you use a different filesystem next time you need to back something up. ;D02:02
daurnimatorDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System02:02
daurnimator/dev/sda1   *           1       24321   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS02:02
daurnimator/dev/sda2           24322       48642   195358432+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)02:02
daurnimator/dev/sda5           24322       48642   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS02:02
rkdfdr: are you sure you redirected both stdout and stderr to the file?02:02
fdrrkd, with capitalization libGL, yes02:02
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BlueEagledaurnimator: Fortunately you can remove your scsi/sata disk and take it to a friend who'se got windows and a dvd burner.02:02
fdrrkd, i redirected with 2>, is that the right way?02:02
lukkettoFABBIONE: LA 10.3 DI XSERVER Xorg CORE blocca l'interfaccia grafica di ubuntu e si pu lavorare solo da prompt02:02
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daurnimatorBlueEagle: i had only that drive with space left - it already had stuff on it - i needed to backup 70gb - so i transfered it to that drive02:03
fabbionelukketto: this is an english channel. and there is no need to use CAPITAL LETTERS02:03
BlueEagleubotu: tell lukketto about it02:03
daurnimatorthen deleted windows, and installed ubntu02:03
lukkettofabbione: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715302:03
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BlueEagleubotu: tell lukketto about xorgbug02:03
erUSUL!paste > daurnimator02:03
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dalilahi all i have a bigissue here, just upgraded xorg-serv that came up in updates and now x wont start02:03
daurnimator- now i need that data02:03
daurnimator:S02:03
fabbionelukketto: i am perfectly aware of the problem but it's not my fault or responsability to fix it02:03
erUSULdalila: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:03
fabbionelukketto: the maintainer is working on it.02:03
rkdfdr: yeah, it seems to be02:03
orbish!xorg02:03
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:03
utabhow can I connecy some network drives automatically02:04
lukkettofabbione: ah ok!.....sorry for the capital letters :)02:04
BlueEagledaurnimator: Did you read the last thing I wrote to you?02:04
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utabsorry , how can I mount some network drives automatically02:04
lamegodalila, read the topic please02:04
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rkdfdr: very odd02:04
daurnimatorBlueEagle: none of my friends would let me near their computers02:04
daurnimator:p02:04
dalilacan you guys repeat it i am using irssi and it scrolled to fast02:05
orbishutab: /etc/fstab i think02:05
erUSULdalila: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:05
xasayasome idea for a packet (aapt-get install ...) to use chinese caracter?02:05
BlueEagledaurnimator: Well I guess you can have them do it for you. I won't enquire about the reason for that although I'm midly curious.02:05
erUSULdalila: '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' will work too02:05
fdrrkd: could it be because maybe I had manually fiddled with that file? I remember trying to manually install the drivers for my ati card, but I can't exactly remember what I did02:05
utaborbish: you think, you are nor sure02:05
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BlueEagledalila: page-up will scroll back02:05
daurnimatorlol - just rule out the possiblity of doing it at a friends02:05
daurnimatori need it done now - and by me02:06
daurnimator- and with linux02:06
fdrrkd, I was looking for some kind of a "force" option in dpkg, but I couldn't find it...02:06
dalilahow do i view topic02:06
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rkdfdr: I guess it's possible; what's in /usr/lib32?02:06
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jubei_!pastebin02:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:06
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BlueEagledaurnimator: since the spesifications for NTFS are as closely guraded as they are there is no way for anyone to make a proper NTFS driver yet. And since the partition is broken the only way to get to it will be trough the operating system that the filesystem was written for or have the authors of the filesystem release it specs.02:07
BlueEagledaurnimator: that is the unfortunate fact of the matter.02:07
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ZonoidCould anyone help me setup my laptop's WI-FI card with Ubuntu?02:07
fdrrkd: ls output is in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2138302:07
daurnimatorthere HAS to be a way02:07
daurnimator:S02:07
orbishutab: there's a way to do it, for file type you use smb or something... i did it a while ago, not sure... google it :)02:07
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daurnimatorwhat is fs type W95 Ext'd (LBA)?02:08
lukkettoabout ubot: is there a list of commands of ubot?02:08
xevildalila: /topic02:08
jubei_Hi everyone. I just booted up today and now Xorg won't start at all. I'm using the Ubuntu livecd right now. Can anyone help?02:08
orbishutab: but that should be a good starting spot02:08
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eyequeuelukketto, /msg ubotu help02:08
BlueEagledaurnimator: Now, the way I see it you've got three choices. A) Install windows and fix the partition and transfer the data to something useful. B) Bring the disk to a machine with windows and transfer the data to something useful or C) Wait until NTFS specs are released and a util is made to fix NTFS parititons and then transfer the data to something useful.02:08
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frogzoojubei_: read the topic & install the older xserver core mentioned02:08
lukkettojubei: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1002:08
bradbury9jubei_: me too, perhaps editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:08
Schalkenis there a GNOME frontend to CVS?02:09
lukkettoeyequeue: thx02:09
rkdfdr: mv FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.202:09
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eyequeuelukketto, np02:09
bradbury9i'll try sudo apt-get ...02:09
BlueEagleubotu: tell jubei_ about xorgbug02:09
frogzoo!xorgbug02:09
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).02:09
Schalkenubotu: cvs02:09
ubotucvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/02:09
ZonoidHow can I get my WI-FI card working with Ubuntu?02:09
daurnimatorBlueEagle: i CAN convert it to fat32 (i think)02:10
rkdfdr: then try and install ia32-libs again02:10
jubei_frogzoo & lukketto: So I take it I'm not the only one with this problem :) thanks guys02:10
daurnimatorpartition magic 8 can convert it02:10
lukkettoubotu: help02:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:10
SchalkenZonoid: start at System -> Administration -> Networking02:10
BlueEagledaurnimator: You might think/whish that.02:10
ZonoidSchalken: I did that. It doesn't seem to find my network though.02:10
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bnilsenAnyone here using a PC Card 56KB modem with Ubuntu?02:10
Schalkendo you need a WEP key?02:11
BlueEagledaurnimator: It depends. I don't think PQ8 will touch it since it's broken.02:11
SchalkenZonoid: ^^02:11
ZonoidSchalken: No.02:11
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xeviljubei_: not hardly :)02:11
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dalilasince i cant really view those pages i amd doing the apt-get update thxs i will reboot and see02:11
BlueEagledaurnimator: however you can attempt to specify a size for the extended partition to fit with your logical partition.02:11
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BlueEagledaurnimator: (provided that it is what is causing the error)02:12
daurnimatorplease explain02:12
SchalkenZonoid: better check if your wifi card is automatically configured...there was a page listing cards and how they work in ubuntu...02:12
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Schalkensomehwere in the wiki :p02:12
fdrrkd, still same error... but in the meanwhile I found the variables to unset so that it is shown in English: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2138502:12
Goshawkhi02:12
ZonoidSchalken: Okay. Thanks.02:12
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BlueEagledaurnimator: man fdisk02:12
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Goshawkxserver-xorg-core update of today broke my X server (dapper)02:12
gypsymaurohello02:12
niekieHi, just a question about the Xorg troubles, it has already been patched and should appear on local mirrors in a while, right?02:12
Schalkenis there a GNOME frontend or IDE for CVS?02:12
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eyequeueniekie, right, /topic02:13
BlueEagledaurnimator: accordign to the fdisk report your extended partition is bigger than the logical partition that is on it.02:13
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niekieeyequeue: Ok :)02:13
gypsymauroeyequeue: I saw but I can't use browser, there is a work around?02:13
daurnimatorBlueEagle: correct02:13
niekiegypsymauro: using Lynx should work.02:13
tom`ah, I see I'm not the only one with x troubles02:13
niekietom`: nope :)02:13
eyequeuegypsymauro, sudo apt-get install lynx02:13
Goshawki can't use browser too02:13
eyequeueGoshawk,  sudo apt-get install lynx02:13
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niekieGoshawk: try installing Lynx, a console based browser.02:13
BlueEagledaurnimator: This might be caused by one of two things. The extended partition actually being bigger or the superblock on the ntfs partition being broken and reporting the wrong size.02:14
BlueEagledaurnimator: I am guessing on the latter.02:14
gypsymaurothere is not a bot with instructions?:)02:14
eyequeue!xorgbug02:14
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).02:14
eyequeue!xorgbugfix02:14
daurnimator.. i set it up like that02:14
ubotuwget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb02:14
daurnimator:S02:14
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Goshawkniekie: ok, but how to see the topic of this channel (the url) with irssi?02:14
daurnimatorits meant to be that way02:14
rkdfdr: i'm not sure, but brb in a few minutes02:14
niekieGoshawk: /topic02:14
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BlueEaglegoshawk: /topic02:14
rkdfdr: see if aptitude reinstall libgl1 does anything :/02:14
dalilathanks guy  it worked, i did notice the update wants to update pkg again  should i do it or block it ?02:15
Goshawkuhm.... i've the version that ubotu says in my apt chace02:15
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eyequeueGoshawk, sudo dpkg -i then02:15
Goshawkeyequeue: trying02:15
lamegodalila, install from http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb02:15
lamegoits the updated package, which fixes the problem02:15
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lamegocould someone update the bot fix :P ?02:16
Goshawkdone... now i need a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:16
Goshawkhoping that it will work02:16
lamegoGoshawk, you shouldn't need to reconfigure02:16
eyequeueGoshawk, a restart isn't enough?  the old config was nuked?02:17
dalilalamego:why cant the update manager do that if they know the issue02:17
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fdrrkd, unfortunately it doesn't... output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21386  ... please let me know when you're back...02:17
lamegodalila, they dit, it will take some hours to get update02:17
lamegodalila, they dit, it will take some hours to get updated on the update servers02:17
daurnimatorAHHH02:17
daurnimatori know the problem02:17
daurnimatori think02:17
dalilalamego: i am on vacation and converted my family to ubuntu :-)  dont want to work to hard02:17
daurnimatorits in a JBOD array02:17
Goshawklamego: eyequeue i tried to reconfigure it with the new xorg-core many times, the working configuration seems to be missing now02:17
bimberilamego: hm, only an i386 fix02:17
eyequeueGoshawk, ahhhh02:17
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lamegoGoshawk, ah ok :)02:17
BlueEagledaurnimator: I really do regret that you're unable to mount the ntfs partition and I'm sorry but I cannot see a way for linux to fix the issue.02:17
daurnimatorand its seeing that the partition table goes over the end of the disk02:17
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deniz_ogutHello Dear Friends: About that x issie: I managed to solve the problem by DOWNGRADING . But Ubuntu still offers me the broken update via syaptics? Way? I saw the codes in the Forum to solve the problem but what I stay without doing anything. Won't synaptic offer me the latest working file soon?02:18
daurnimatorand gets an error02:18
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dalilalamego: so i downloaded the package how do i upgrade from commandl ine02:18
lamegobimberi, i guess the other will come on the next hourts...02:18
eyequeuedeniz_ogut, hours, yes02:18
lamegodalila, you coucl open the package from fireofox, and install it from there02:18
gypsymaurodalila: dpkg -i02:18
deniz_ogutso, not to do anything is the best.02:18
lamegoor download and : sudo dpkg -i package02:18
bradbury9deniz_ogut: as soon as they put it in the repos I suppose02:18
eyequeuebradbury9, it's there, it just needs to propagate02:18
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Goshawkit works!!!02:19
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Goshawkthanks guy02:19
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eyequeuenp02:19
Goshawkbut please be less brave with the stable release02:19
Goshawk:D02:19
plumaIs it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package? I want to remove GAIM because it's of no use for me because it has some kind of arbitrarily low buddy limit, which is ridiculous for a multi-protocol messenger.02:20
deniz_ogutthanks. but why can't friends in the headquarter delete that broken file. Is it technically impossible? Many people just logged in still broke their system at the very moment.02:20
dalilarestarting x to make sure it workds02:20
eyequeuepluma, yes, it is a meta package02:20
plumaAnd ubuntu-desktop seems to depend on gaim for no obvious reason.02:20
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plumaeyequeue: Does anything actually need the package then?02:20
plumaeyequeue: as in, will I notice it's missing?02:20
eyequeuepluma, no, its purpose is to pull in other packages, which you already did02:21
plumaAlso, what is a better alternative to GAIM? I don't want to have to go and download Miranda again (if there is a Linux version anyway).02:21
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eyequeuepluma, you may want to put it back just before you dist-upgrade to edgy though02:21
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dalilathanks again02:21
oskude!better02:21
mc__pluma: psi02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
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eyequeuepluma, some seem to like amsn, though i've never touched it02:22
niekieYou could also use Jabber with transports to other protocols :)02:22
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lukketto!xgl02:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:24
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plumaeyequeue: amsn is not multi-protocol, it seems.02:24
mc__pluma: but psi is02:24
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BlueEagledaurnimator: jbod might be set up as an md array.02:24
eyequeuepluma, doesn't sound it, and i know no one on that protocol myself, so i haven't tried it02:25
plumaniekie: I think ICQ doesn't work with Jabber. MSN does, tho.02:25
Goshawk_hi02:25
BlueEagledaurnimator: device*02:25
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mc__pluma: icq does work02:25
niekiepluma: there are ICQ transports to my knowledge.02:25
dalilanow how long would microsoft would of taken to fix something like that!!!! bravo ubuntu for such a quick fix02:25
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BlueEagledaurnimator: do you have any reference to md0 with sudo fdisk -l ?02:25
ZonoidWhat permissions do I have to set for my a new user account so I can delete the "oem" account and still have complete control over my computer?02:25
Goshawk_i've upgraded libc to edgy version to test some packages, now each python/perl script return an error with locales (also emacs) and they use the "C" locale. how o fix it? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales did nothing...02:26
[b] urkyou mean on windows?02:26
dalilais there a dvd writer app i think xcdroast only works with CD/rw02:26
NineTeen67CometEeek .. I kind of screwed my gdm greeter screen up .. I tried to change it to another type and when I restarted X it warned me the the gdm greeter was not correctly configured and that I had to edit it manually. Help?02:26
[b] urkgnomebaker02:26
BlueEaglegoshawk_: #ununtu+1 for edgy discussion.02:26
unfunHello Iv'e got a printer Dell-Laser-Printer-3100cn and I ve got drives for it to but I don't know how to install them02:26
plumaI need a messenger that supports the defaults: ICQ and AIM, MSNM, Jabber, YIM.02:26
Goshawk_BlueEagle: thanks02:26
eyequeueZonoid, sudo sudoedit02:26
[b] urkdalila, gnomebaker or k3b (kde app)02:26
mc__pluma: psi,use psi02:27
Zonoideyeqeue: Both of them?02:27
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NineTeen67Cometpluma: .. gaim works well with all those ..02:27
Goshawk_#ubuntu+102:27
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plumaNineTeen67Comet: gaim has a buddy limit of, like, 20. I have about 100 or more buddies.02:27
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plumaNineTeen67Comet: Also, I just don't like it.02:27
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NineTeen67Cometpluma aha .. I dunno then .. kde has something too .. but I forget the name ..02:28
tyler_dhow do I tell what is installed with wine?02:28
plumamc__: O_o You seem a bit euphoric about psi.02:28
sexcopter8000mhi, i have a camera connected which uses a cf card. is it possible to browse it in nautilus or similar, since it has some files that the photo importer hasn't picked up?02:28
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plumaAlright, I'll try psi.02:28
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bradbury9One thing I bless linux for: irsii & links2. Thanks for the XOrg-server downgrade info folks..02:29
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maleficohi guys02:29
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xevilthanks for the help guys...02:29
malefico I have installed some ttf fonts in my ubuntu...02:30
maleficousing the mkfontscale, mkfontdir method02:30
ajninhello lads. i am having a proble installing ubuntu 6.06 desktop i386 from a cd. the error i get is the following :     Uncompressing Linux... invalid compressed format (err=2)  system halted02:30
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maleficonow, firefox and most apps see these fonts02:30
ZonoidWhat permissions do I have to set for my a new user account so I can delete the "oem" account and still have complete control over my computer?02:30
mc__ajnin: get a new cd02:30
ajnindo u know what might be the fault for that?02:30
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maleficobut somehow, fvwm-crystal cannot find them02:30
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cello_rasphow do i set my machines ip address permanaently02:31
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lassegscello_rasp: set it in network manager02:31
ajninmc__, i downloaded it. i have the iso image. the md5sum is good.02:31
maleficowhat's the ubuntu method to install new ttf fonts and let X to see them ?02:31
cello_rasplassegs: i only have server02:31
eyequeuecello_rasp, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, man interfaces02:31
bimberiZonoid: you need to be a member of the admin group, which gives you sudo access02:31
eyequeueZonoid, and sudo sudoedit02:32
ZonoidBimber: And "main group" can just say "user"?02:32
lassegscello_rasp: edit the /etc/network/interfaces02:32
ajninmc__, shall i rewrite the cd?02:32
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ZonoidBimberi: I don't see sudo edit anywhere.02:32
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lassegscello_rasp: its pretty basic stuff, it shouldnt be to hard to understand02:32
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NineTeen67CometI lost me gdm login screen after trying one from gnome-art .. anyone got an idea how to get that back? (It simply puts me in cli .. ) ..02:33
bimberiZonoid: yes, best for the main group to be the same as the username.  'sudo visudo' will edit the sudoers file (/etc/sudoers)02:33
=== NineTeen67Comet thank goodness for the live portion of the Unbuntu cd .. heheheeh
phreakys_is there a helpchannel for compiz?02:33
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TheGateKeeperajnin: I would do the 'self-test' on the CD and I would check your hdd with bad block, and of course you could retry burning the iso02:33
erUSULNineTeen67Comet: maybe it was the x breakage See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:33
bimberi!xgl02:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:33
treeshoewhat is a great distro for 64 bit pcs?02:34
NineTeen67Cometphreakys_:  you can try #ubuntu-xgl or just #xgl ..02:34
plumamc__: Now how do I add non-Jabber accounts (e.g. AIM and ICQ)02:34
maleficowhat's the ubuntu method to install new ttf fonts and let X to see them ?02:34
TheGateKeeperajnin: badblocks*02:34
erUSUL!fonts > malefico02:34
ajninTheGateKeeper, i formatted the drive yesterday and no errors occured.02:34
phreakys_tnx comet02:34
rkdfdr: ok, i'm back02:35
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Ljubenhi. upgraded from breeze to dapper. after reboot it does not start the xserver. the error is - failed to load module GLcore. Any ideas how to proceeed?02:35
fdrrkd, great, thanks02:35
TheGateKeeperajnin: I formated a maxtor but it still had plenty of problems, you need to check it02:35
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Oleki get x error too02:35
Oleknot even upgraded02:36
NineTeen67CometerUSUL: thanks .. I'll give 'er a try ..02:36
erUSULNineTeen67Comet: no problem02:36
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NineTeen67Cometc'mon machine .. shutdown -r now .. hehehe02:36
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Oleki mean not from dapper to anything, i upgraded package and x wont start now02:36
m_0_r_0_nHow do I enable the -f parameter of rm to be asked to confirm all delete statements?02:36
fdrrkd, what do you suggest me to try next, please?02:36
wulaxdoes someone know if it's possible to apply themes from gcompizthemer without restarting cgwd?02:36
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rkdfdr: when was the last time you did aptitude update?02:36
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erUSULOlek: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:36
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fdrsome ten mins ago02:36
maleficoerUSUL, thanks !02:36
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erUSULmalefico: no problem02:37
bradbury9treeshoe,  I like ubuntu amd64. Have not tested debian 64 bits, but it also seems to be good02:37
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rkdfdr: ok, it's probably not that, then02:37
fdrrkd, some ten mins ago, but the problem with updating ia32-libs showed up several weeks ago02:37
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fdrrks but I never had time to deal with it02:37
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tom_fabbione: you maintain xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2ubuntu10.3 right?02:37
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TheGateKeeperajnin: if the iso image is good, the CDROM is good the CD Media is good, the burn is good, the HDD is good it will install, the fact that it isn't tells you one of these variables is problematic02:38
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Oleklol just read the topic02:38
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monteiroi've downgraded the xorg package, and still not working :( (using nvidia-glx)02:38
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linuxd00dhi all, my system sensors seemed to fail on boot? is that a bad thing?02:39
BlueEaglethegatekeeper: some lappys and gfx cards still need vga safe mode.02:39
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snooomy X is broken, can someone give me help on IRC? have no access to a web terminal02:39
rkdfdr: try removing ia32-libs-gtk, ia32-libs-openoffice.org and xorg-driver-fglrx (unless you're actively using fglrx, in which case that might be a bad idea) and reinstall them all02:39
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POVaddctsnooo: read the topic02:39
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snoooPOVaddct: i have, i can't access a web browser02:39
erUSULsnooo: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:39
eyequeuesnooo, sudo apt-get install lynx02:39
fdrrkd, with apt-get remove?02:39
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linuxd00dmy system sensors seemed to fail on boot? is that a bad thing?02:40
POVaddctsnooo: there are textmode web browsers02:40
snoooerUSUL: thanks02:40
TheGateKeeperBlueEagle: where did that come from? you got me mixed up with someone else?02:40
bradbury9snooo, apt-cache search links02:40
rkdfdr: i use aptitude purge, but apt-get remove probably works the same, yeah02:40
eyequeuelinuxd00d, happens here too at least02:40
BlueEaglethegatekeeper: I'm just saying that your list of prerequisites is flawed. You'll also need a BIOS that's able to boot from cd-rom. :)02:40
snoooPOVaddct: yes i know, but i dont have the time to copy down a url and type it in - i need to get back to work. was just asking for help02:40
linuxd00deyequeue: will this effect my system in any way?02:41
eyequeuesnooo, sudo apt-get install lynx, then /topic02:41
erUSULsnooo: the comand i gave will work02:41
fdrrkd, ok, trying with aptitude...02:41
BlackBrainanyone have install the fwbuilder 2.1 on ubuntu?02:41
eyequeuelinuxd00d, doesn't here at least, no clue the cause though02:41
linuxd00dok, kool02:41
fdrrkd, it still complains... :-(02:42
lassegseyequeue: youre misunderstanding this02:42
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eyequeuelassegs, misunderstanding what?02:42
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TheGateKeeperBlueEagle: won't some lappys boot of the cdrom then?02:42
monteiroerUSUL: i did that, but still not works (i'm using hp pavilion dv5000 with nvidia)02:42
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rkdfdr: complains about what, uninstalling or reinstalling?02:42
lassegseyequeue: type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10    then reboot02:43
linuxd00dlassegs, on boot it says that my sensors failed to boot02:43
fdruninstalling02:43
fdrrkd, uninstalling02:43
erUSULmonteiro: have you rebooted, restarting x will not do the trick02:43
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eyequeuelassegs, why would i do that?02:43
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monteiroerUSUL: i rebooted02:43
rkdfdr: can you pastebin it?02:43
lassegseyequeue: didnt you want to fix ur x?02:43
monteiroerUSUL: i'm going to try halting02:43
hans_Good morning... ;-)02:43
fdrsure02:43
eyequeuelassegs, no, i'm in x now02:44
antoinjapanHey guys, my page up/down keys don't work.  It's an dell inspiron laptop.  In Keyboard shortcuts it doesn list page up/down.02:44
BlueEaglethegatekeeper: Mind you that I did not read the question to which you were answering. If the matter pertains simply to get the boot menu then vga safe mode has got nothing to do with it. If it pertains to getting the live cd up and running (which many call 'boot') then vga safe-mode might be a factor.02:44
lassegseyequeue: i must have seen wrong. sorry02:44
eyequeuelassegs, no prob02:44
antoinjapananyone have any ideas?02:44
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erUSULmonteiro: well maybe your breakage is not related with the update... maybe is something else02:44
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v-man-1is it safe to upgrade X yet?02:45
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fabbionetom_: no i don't02:45
lamegov-man-1, not yet, unless you do it manually02:45
hans_A big problem: kubuntu made an update of xserver-common or like that. Now xserver dont restart... what should i do?02:45
v-man-1kk cheers02:45
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fdrrkd,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2138902:45
rkdthanks02:45
lassegshans_: read the topic02:45
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lassegswe should make ubotu just say "read topic" every time someones join the channel :P02:46
hans_The topic in text mode is only "If X is broken after a recent update"02:46
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markrianv-man-1: there is updated package available on the servers now, version 10.402:46
hans_More i cant read... sorry....02:46
erUSULhans_: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.02:46
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hans_Thank you erUSUL!02:47
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mRCUTEOis there any command to broadcast messages in ubuntu dapper?02:47
erUSULhans_: no problem.. is a well known bug now...02:47
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eyequeuewall (1)             - write a message to users02:47
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eyequeuemRCUTEO, ^^02:48
mRCUTEOit wont work02:48
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TheGateKeeperBlueEagle: he had an install CD that seemed like it was failing, usually it's down to a dodgy iso, media or HDD, he had formatted it so assumed it was ok, I have found out from bitter experience that isn't always the case, I was just giving him things to look at02:48
mRCUTEOeyequeue:02:48
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xxpor2configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.02:48
mRCUTEOusage: wall [file] 02:48
mRCUTEOroot@216:~#02:48
Crazedbleh02:48
xxpor2how can i fix that02:49
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Crazedwhy cant I upgrade the xserver-xorg-core package ..02:49
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hans_Oh my god...02:49
Crazedif I upgrade to the newest version my X wont run anymore ;P02:49
rkdfdr: all your errors seem to revolve around libGL.so.1.2 somehow, but beyond that i'm really not sure what's going on, and forcing uninstalls might break your system more....02:49
hans_i've thought that ubuntu is a secure system...02:49
jstewHi. I upgraded the xserver-xorg-core package and now my nvidia driver is hosed. How do I fix it?02:49
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lamegojstew, read the topic02:49
rkdCrazed, jstew: topic02:49
eyequeuemRCUTEO, echo foo | wall02:49
lassegshans_: still is02:49
TheGateKeeperCrazed: if it's 10.3 correct02:50
hans_Yes, but why is xorg now broken?02:50
fdrrkd, I definitely agree :-)02:50
jstewdoh. thanks.02:50
Crazedidd02:50
fdrrkd, time for a complete reinstall?02:50
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Crazedwhy did they add this update ..02:50
lamegohans_, because someone did a mistake, human things02:50
Crazedif it isnt working02:50
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Crazedah ok :)02:50
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bimberi!xorgbug02:50
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')02:50
Crazedbad mistake :P02:50
BlueEaglethegatekeeper: Well it's not a bad or erroneous list but it's not complete and you made it sound complete. Even using CD-RWs is a common reason for it. But that's no biggie. :)02:50
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rkdhans_: that doesn't make it insecure02:50
eyequeueCrazed, obviously it works on some machines02:50
eyequeueCrazed, such as mine, such as the maintainers02:51
hans_Okay, thank you very much for your help...02:51
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Crazedah ok02:51
Crazedanyway ..02:51
lamegoeyequeue, whats why testing is expected to be done by a lot common users, not maintaners :)02:51
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jstewThat's stupid. Don't these types of things get tested? xorg-core upgrade?02:51
danzatDoes anyone here have some experience in getting Enemy-Territory to run properly?02:51
Crazedto fix it I have to udpate to 10.4 :P02:51
rkdfdr: there's probably a way to fix it, we just don't know what it us :/02:51
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CrazedI will try it02:51
lamegodanzat, it is running fine on me, just did a standard install...02:51
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xxpor2Crazed, if you have an nvidia card, you have to install the propritary drivers02:52
plumamc__:  are you there?02:52
rkdwhat it is, rather02:52
wulaxdoes someone know if it's possible to apply themes from gcompizthemer without restarting cgwd?02:52
tuxtuxciao02:52
Crazedxxpor2, the what drivers ?02:52
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danzatlamego: I just can't seem to get it to run in fullscreen mode02:52
jstew<rant> Seriously, stuff like this needs to be tested better. </rant>02:52
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Crazedxxpor2,  what drivers do you mean ?02:53
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xxpor2!nvidia > xxpor02:53
rkdjstew: so volunteer to become a developer02:53
jstewI might...02:53
Tinned_Tunahow can I find if a WiFi card is fully supported Out of the box?02:53
xxpor2Crazed, when you install ubuntu, you need to upgrade the graphics drivers to support 3d acceleration02:53
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jstewI can do pythin dev, but have no xorg experience.02:53
eXistenZHow does an executable file differ from a non-executable one?02:54
jstewerr pythin even.02:54
Crazederm I have that ..02:54
CrazedI installed the correct drivers :)02:54
eyequeueeXistenZ, +x02:54
xxpor2!nvidia > Crazed02:54
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xxpor2o02:54
jstewphhth. Myabe I've had too much coffee but you know what I mean :)02:54
xxpor2ic02:54
eyequeueeXistenZ, man chmod02:54
emmetEm... an 'xorg-core' upgrade just busted my laptop, I get the impression I'm not the only person affected. Is there a solution?02:54
hans_Thank you very much for your help! now i am here with X again...02:54
eyequeueemmet, /topic02:54
xxpor2Crazed, whats the problem you are having then exactly02:54
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Tinned_Tuna!wifi > Tinned_Tuna02:54
bimberi!xorgbug > emmet02:54
Crazedw8 ill paste it on pastebin02:54
TheGateKeeperBlueEagle: fair enough :-) I use mainly desktops so would necessarily know all about lappies too. point I was trying to make to the guy, was if everything was ok it would install, the fact that it wasn't ment he needed to investigate to try and find out which bit of the chain was broken02:54
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TheGateKeeperBlueEagle: point taken :-)02:55
axismeTinned_Tuna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported02:55
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Tinned_Tunaaxisme: thanks :)02:55
emmeteyequeue: thanks, missed that :)02:55
eyequeueemmet, np02:55
textshellwith this recent X-Org breakage, can't someone of the canonical sysadmins just rm the borked version?02:56
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jstewThanks guys, downgrading X worked.02:56
danzatlamego: are you with me?02:56
eyequeuetextshell, /topic, it's already replaced02:56
kaotx got b0rked?02:56
Crazedxxpor2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2139002:56
Crazedthats what I get when I update ..02:57
kaotrovery02:57
eyequeuetextshell, propagation takes time02:57
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CrazedI reinstalled the nvidia driver after that but still had the same problem02:57
Ljubenhow can I downgrade xorg from 7.0 to 6.8?02:57
Crazedso I downgraded the xorg-core again02:57
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eyequeuekaot, 2 security patches, sigh02:57
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kaotwell, someone tell me when the unb0rked version goes out so I can upgrade  :\02:57
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textshelleyequeue: no security.ubuntu.com still has the borked version (just checked) and is directly unter canonicals control...02:58
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eyequeuekaot, whenever your mirros next syncs02:58
LjubenCrazed: how do u downgrade. after upgrade to 7.0 i have no X at all02:58
mRCUTEOWHATS THE DIFFERENT BETWWEEN AND UBUNTU?02:58
Ljubeni want to revert02:58
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Crazedw802:58
constantine-xvianyone know about a good notebook program for ubuntu?02:58
eyequeuetextshell, again, this takes time to propagate, READ the url in the /topic02:58
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CrazedLjuben, try this first:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb02:59
textshelleyequeue: I did read lunchpad.02:59
dungodungI've just updated my dapper and xorg failed02:59
xxpor2Crazed, did you upgrade X? and what video card do you have?02:59
lassegsconstantine-xvi: you mean like tomboy?02:59
Crazeddidnt try it yet but that is the fix I got here ..02:59
oskudehttp://capsoff.org/02:59
CrazedNvidia gf 5950 ultra 256mb02:59
lamegodanzat, i need to go, sorry02:59
xxpor2ok02:59
jstewUsually I wait to see what others say about an upgrade. This time I didn't. Lesson learned :)02:59
Tinned_Tunaaxisme: in the wiki docs on WiFi, I found my card, it says supported, but in the comments it says 'revision B1 4.10' What does this mean, please?02:59
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Crazedand yes I upgraded X from the update manager ..02:59
erUSUL!caps > mRCUTEO03:00
textshelleyequeue: But i wonder why ubuntu doesn't do some fast stop gap fix. Ok that would need to be done by the server admins, but i think it would be better.03:00
Crazedthen I got that 10.3 version ..03:00
constantine-xvilassegs: not a sticky note program, a full notebook-like program, sortof like MSO onenote03:00
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Crazedand X wouldnt reboot after that03:00
oskudeTinned_Tuna: the version of your card...03:00
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Crazednow I downgraded to 10. version03:00
Tinned_Tunaahh ok03:00
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VliegendehuiskatCrazed, the onswer is in the topic03:00
air-boyhi03:00
Crazedyes I know Vliegendehuiskat03:00
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Vliegendehuiskatok03:00
Crazedbut xxpor2 was asking something03:00
ZonoidHow can I delete the "oem" account? When I try to delete it, it keeps coming back.03:00
air-boyi have same problam and no reply at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12129803:00
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Tinned_Tuna... and what if I can't find my WiFi card in the docs?03:00
lassegsconstantine-xvi: then i dont know. but if you havent tried tomboy i would  recommend trying it out, cause it really is super!03:01
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jstewCrazed: this downgrade works for me: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:01
CrazedI know :P03:01
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Crazedalready did03:01
dfdfdfdcomo instalo el grub03:01
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oskudeTinned_Tuna: then you propably have to google and try it out...03:01
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constantine-xvilassegs: i use it, just doesnt seem good for handling tons of notes (read as: college classes)03:01
jstewlol, OK.03:01
Crazedxxpor2, was asking me something else :)03:01
xxpor2Crazed, ya i thought becuase you said ET, it was a driver problem :P03:01
Tinned_Tunahmm, ok03:02
Crazednope :P03:02
air-boyanybody plz http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12129803:02
Crazedits fixed now03:02
phreakyshm03:02
xxpor2good :D03:02
lassegsconstantine-xvi:  i did that and it worked greate03:02
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Crazedits just the reg. prob with the xorg-core driver ..03:02
phreakysgot a fix for the not-selecting theming thing03:02
Mely59000irc://irc.recycled-irc.net/azk03:02
ZonoidDoes anyone know how to delete the "oem" account?03:02
Mely59000zut03:02
Mely59000sorry03:02
danzatCan anyone else help me? Enemy Territoty refuses to run at fullscreen mode03:02
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xxpor2danzat,  thats quite odd03:03
axismedanzat, using cedega ?03:03
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danzatnope03:03
Mely59000 /server irc.Recycled-IRC.net03:03
Mely59000arf03:03
xxpor2lol03:03
Mely59000pff03:03
danzataxisme, nope03:03
eXistenZwhat does touch do?03:03
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lamegoeXistenZ, man touch03:03
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eXistenZlamego, and which?03:03
Crazeddoes anyone here know a good solution for Teamspeak ?03:03
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rkdZonoid: userdel oem?03:03
xxpor2eXistenZ, creates a blank text file with the name you specify03:03
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lamegoeXistenZ, type: man touch on the terminal03:03
eyequeueZonoid, man deluser03:03
textshelleXistenZ: touch creates a file and sets the last change time.03:03
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Zonoidrkd: I type this in the terminal?03:04
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rkdZonoid: yes03:05
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shivwhat do I do here03:05
shivshiv@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update03:05
shivE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:05
shivE: Unable to lock the list directory03:05
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eyequeue!pastebin > shiv03:05
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Zonoidrkd: When I try userdel oem, it says that oem is already logged in. But I'm not logged in as OEM.03:05
eyequeueshiv, close whatever has the lock03:05
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xxpor2shiv, something else is using the package manager03:05
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textshellZonoid: try ps axu | grep oem03:06
rkdZonoid: use the 'who' command to check03:06
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tuxtuxreboot03:06
shiveyequeue: Thanks03:06
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eyequeueshiv, np03:06
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shivxxpor2: thanks03:06
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xxpor2np :)03:06
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airboyhi03:06
airboyi have same problam no reply at all: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12129803:06
eXistenZlamego, ponemayet ruski?03:07
Crazedxxpor2,  do you know a good solution for Teamspeak under linux ?03:07
xxpor2no03:07
textshellZonoid: grep -r oem /etc   might be interessting too..03:07
Crazedhmm ok :)03:07
xxpor2dont use teamspeak03:07
Crazedto bad :p03:07
airboyi want to remove this gforge-db-postgresql03:07
xxpor2lol03:07
Zonoidtextshell: I don't know what that stuff means.03:07
Crazedwell what else to use haha03:07
xxpor2nothing wtf03:07
xxpor2ftw03:07
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Crazed..03:07
selinuxiumHi all, I have run an gui app via sudo and not gksu and borked my GDM. I have forgotten how to sort it. Any ideas?03:07
xxpor2got a little dislecsic there03:07
xxpor2lol03:07
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textshellZonoid: the ps thing displays processes that are running. so you should be able to see what is running as user oem03:08
Zonoidrkd: I did who, and it says oem : 003:08
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Zonoidtextshell: Oh. Okay.03:08
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rkdZonoid: is that the only line?03:08
Zwoofhello everyone03:08
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rkdZonoid: if so, you are logged in as oem03:08
xxpor2hi Zwoof03:08
Zonoidrkd: But in the terminal, it says my username before what I type.03:09
Zwoofgood to hear that other have x-server problems!03:09
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Zwoofso to speak03:09
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Zonoidrkd: There are two other lines with my username.03:09
airboyanybody plz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12129803:09
eyequeueZonoid, reboot will log everyone off03:09
textshellselinuxium: check for root owned files in you home directory ls -l ~ | grep root03:09
Zonoideyequeue: I'll try that. Thanks.03:10
ZwoofI'm sitting here i China with a laptop, surfing with lynx. Having problem to get the right link in the topic about the x-server bug03:10
rkdZonoid: grep "yourusername\|oem" /etc/passwd03:10
ZwoofMy characters are a bit messed up03:10
textshellselinuxium: but check first that you are not "just" affected by the borked xserver update (see topic)03:10
rambo3down with couminsm , zwoof that will get you 2 years in prison03:10
Zwooframbo3: hehe, thanks03:11
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Zwooframbo3: you spell english about as good as the chinese03:11
oskudeairboy: youre using ubuntu 5.10 ?03:11
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eyequeueZwoof, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715303:11
Saylockbonjour03:11
airboynope dapper03:11
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airboy6.0103:11
oskudeairboy: then why do you ask about 5.10 in your post ?03:12
Zwoofeyequeeue: is it supposed to be plus-signs in the address?03:12
airboyi also try apt-get remove --ignore-missing --purge gforge*03:12
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eyequeueZwoof, yes03:12
airboycoz i have same problam03:12
airboythat is why03:12
rambo3its not about correctness its about the speed03:12
smelly_soxmy sox stink03:12
Zwoofeyequ: thanks, will try again. super!03:12
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airboyi did reinstall this gforge-db-postgresql then remove but same happning03:13
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airboyits just not getride i want to install anothere packge03:13
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airboybut i need to remove this first03:13
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selinuxiumtextshell: the root owned files have nothing to do with gdm/X03:14
oskudeairboy: just a lol hack test, do "sudo touch /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf" (if it doesnt exist as the error sais) an try remove again...03:14
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airboytouch: cannot touch `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory03:14
textshellselinuxium: .xauthority root owned does cause a lot of trouble with X login.03:14
oskudeairboy: hmm, so theres no /etc/postgresql dir ?03:14
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airboyyep03:14
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ZonoidX Server graphics just failed when I tried to boot. It was working before. What happened?03:15
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airboyRemoving gforge-db-postgresql cp: cannot stat `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory03:15
tom_hmz, I've upgraded my xserver to 10.4 package but it still doesn't work :(03:15
eyequeueZonoid, /topic03:15
xxpor2!xbug > Zonoid03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
xxpor2hmm03:15
Kennyoutlo xxpor203:15
rkd!xorgbug03:15
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')03:15
textshellselinuxium: but if gdm isn't even starting up it's something else. Most likely the broken update03:15
xxpor2:D03:15
xxpor2lol03:15
danzatxxpor2, do you think you can help me with Enemy Territory?03:15
tom_"undefined symbol _glXLastContext"03:15
oskudeairboy: well, follow the hack and create the dir...03:16
xxpor2danzat, whats the problem?03:16
rkd!xorgbug > Zonoid03:16
selinuxiumtextshell: I am going through it now. Thank for the pointers! :)03:16
airboyi did create dir but its same03:16
danzatxxpor2, can't get it to run in fullscreen mode03:16
erUSULZonoid: updated and fixed packages have been uploaded do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:16
Crazedis there something like klip for gnome ?03:16
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airboythen its ask for configeration file i did create fake but its still not uninstalling03:16
kupesoftSo I wasn't the only one having the X problems - does the newest update for X fix this bug?03:16
airboyis there any way apt-get forget this packge so i can install anyother03:16
airboy?03:16
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textshellselinuxium: but i should have written ls -la ~  | grep root03:16
xxpor2danzat, whats the error when you go fullscreen, paste the log in the paste bin, and copy the link here03:16
selinuxiumtextshell: oh yeah! i'll look again!03:17
danzatxxpor2, no error, it just won't go fullscreen, it stays in window mode, even if i tick "fullscreen: yes" in the game config03:17
orbishthis major xorg bug, is it for the dapper repositories?03:17
eyequeueorbish, yes03:17
oskudeairboy: maybe you can try -f with your remove command03:17
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orbishsigh03:18
h4ch3rhello guys03:18
h4ch3rgood morning03:18
eyequeueorbish, wait 24h then upgrade03:18
airboyi did but its say nothing03:18
airboyno update etc03:18
textshellorbish: it's in dapper-updates but AFIAK not in dapper-security03:18
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xxpor2danzat, type cg_<tab> in the console, there should be a fullscreen cvar, try setting that to 103:18
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orbisheyequeue: i'll just use that downgrade command everyone has been using, i'm in the middle of a dapper upgrade from hoary03:18
eyequeueorbish, good idea03:19
Kennyoutwait so im not the only one who can't use Live's graphical mode due to X?03:19
cbx33Hi all, got a problem, upgraded xserver-xorg-core, and now graphical is broken03:19
cbx33:(03:19
xxpor2Kennyout, omg03:19
cbx33No Screens Found03:19
eyequeuecbx33, /topic03:19
monteiroi've downgraded xserver-xorg-core, and still not working, anyone knows how to fix it? (I'm with a laptop hp pavilion with nvidia drivers)03:19
xxpor2Kennyout, i should have told u03:19
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xxpor2i forgot03:19
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gnomefreakcbx33: the fix is being released as we speak its hit some servers already03:19
cbx33gnomefreak: excellent03:19
cbx33thank you03:19
gnomefreakyw03:19
cbx33thought it was just me03:19
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gnomefreakits everyone03:20
cbx33I had a upgraded compiz as well03:20
monteirognomefreak: you're saying that some servers have the fix already ?03:20
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gnomefreakmonteiro: correct03:20
cbx33Someone is gonna be in BIG trouble03:20
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eyequeuegnomefreak, only some, not here somehow03:20
orbishgnomefreak, do you know a timeframe when the servers will be synced?03:20
kupesoftThat X bug was huge - what happened?03:20
gnomefreaktry the uk mirrors03:20
gnomefreakeyequeue: thats what i stated03:20
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gnomefreakorbish: no03:20
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cbx33gnomefreak: UK mirrors havn't changed yet as far as I can see03:20
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orbishok03:20
kyjakmidi cant open sequencer? I cant play midi03:20
Kennyoutwell xxpor2, lucklly someone told me about editing the sources.list file,  then attempting the update, but forgot to mention that one needs to set up the way to download them when CDing03:21
eyequeuegnomefreak, oh, i read "everyone" :)03:21
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gnomefreakeyequeue: its broken for everyone :)03:21
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textshellsecurity.ubuntu.com finally has the update...03:21
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monteiro-> its almost there :) - Failed to fetch http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb03:21
eyequeuegnomefreak, not for me, i've installed the "bad" and not needed to change it, even after reboot03:21
LynoureI've gotten into the habit of always asking around before upgrading X :)03:22
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gnomefreakwell yeah like mine never died ;)03:22
orbishtextshell, if i just used that in my sources.list, it should upgrade correctly then, right?03:22
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eyequeuegnomefreak, i'm guessing it worked fine for the uploading maintainer too, heh03:22
orbishcomment everything else out...03:22
cbx33gnomefreak: thanks I'm back !!!!03:22
cbx33brb03:22
gnomefreakcbx33: it hit your servers?03:22
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textshellorbish: it should be allright. But don't blame me if it goes wrong *and* check that it's trying to upgrade to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.403:23
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orbishtextshell, right on, if it breaks, no big deal, i'm patient03:23
danzatxxpor2, nope, no such variable03:23
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gnomefreakim pretty sure its hit uk and gb mirrors but im not on dapper pc atm03:23
tapoxIs X still broken?03:24
tom_yes03:24
cbx33gnomefreak, it has03:24
cbx33mine is fixed03:24
xxpor2danzat, ya im looking03:24
Zwoofeyequeye: if you're out there, it worked... thank you for the help. 10 points!03:24
gnomefreakty03:24
eyequeuetapox, some mirrors yes03:24
tapoxOkay, thanks.03:24
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eyequeueZwoof, :)03:24
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gnomefreaktapox: if you use the uk mirrors run update and upgrade the fix has been released03:24
jstewI'm gonna wait to upgrade03:25
xxpor2danzat, give me a min to do some googleing03:25
Zwoofthank God & Chairman Mao for lynx, irc and #ubuntu!03:25
kupesoftThat X bug was very high profile - what happened?03:25
Zwoof=)03:25
jstewCouple of days should do it.03:25
orbishhahaha chairman mao03:25
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eyequeuekupesoft, minimally tested deb in repo03:25
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truz`_1Are others having a problem with the new xorg core update?03:25
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shilohhi all03:25
Zwooforbish: I'm in China now, so I better include him. ;)03:25
eyequeuetruz`_1, /topic03:25
truz`_1nm, just saw topic03:25
truz`_1sorry03:25
kupesofteyequeue: >;03:25
tapoxgnomefreak: I haven't installed the heathen update yet, so I'm just skipping over it.03:25
jstewLots of people truz`_103:25
tom_truz`_1: lots of people are having the same problem03:25
kupesofteyequeue: why did that happen?03:25
truz`_1good work on the testing ;-)03:25
orbishzwoof: don't want to get your hands chopped off03:25
shilohcan somebody help me?03:26
eyequeuekupesoft, that happens when you rely upon humans03:26
tom_but some people's probs seem to be solved by new 10.4 package03:26
jstewask ya question, maybe we have an answer shiloh03:26
tom_10.4 package not working for me :(03:26
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Zwooforbish: hehe, exactly03:26
WildChildI want to install Dapper Drake on a computer that has a 3dfx voodoo 3 3000 video card. I had some problem showing the framebuffer but I solved it. Now, X starts in 640x480 mode and the installer is too big to be shown completely in the screen. Is there any way to make a text install with Dapper Drake?03:26
eyequeuekupesoft, it woeked on my machine, i'm sure it worked on the maintainer's too, no reason to think otherwise i suppose03:26
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kupesofteyequeue: I PROPOSE WE LET MACHINES DO THE PROGRAMMING!03:26
CarlFKwhat is a comman line util to set id3 tags?03:27
Zwoofgotta reboot. bye all03:27
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xxpor2danzat, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22588.html03:27
shilohhow can i open my ssh?03:27
InferusWildChild: you can do a server install03:27
jstewI, for one, welcome our new mechanized software developing overlords03:27
Inferuswhich is text-only03:27
eyequeueshiloh, "open"?03:27
xxpor2danzat, is the rez u are trying to use supported by x03:27
WildChildInferus: will I be able to install X with the server install?03:27
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WildChildsame program installed?03:27
InferusWildChild, not initially03:27
Inferusbut once it boots up03:27
Inferusyou login03:27
WildChildgrrr :)03:27
Inferusand then type03:27
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CarlFKshiloh: ?  (guessing you mean "how do I install sshd"03:27
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shilohya03:27
Inferussudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:27
jstewssh [flags]  <user@host>03:27
WildChildi know how to install x03:27
Inferusand it'll sort it out03:28
WildChildwith dpkg03:28
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Inferusno03:28
Inferusjust do that03:28
Inferussudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:28
WildChildok03:28
Inferusand it'll install the bits you're missing03:28
Inferus=] 03:28
tapoxkupesoft: Letting the machines program themselves is simply allowing them to rise up, program and improve themselves.03:28
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eyequeueshiloh, "open"?  what does that mean?03:28
jstewshiloh: sudo apt-get install openssh-server?03:28
WildChildthat suck because with 5.10 I was able to install without any problem...03:28
shilohi have linux.. and i want to login from my other pc.. by using putty.03:28
InferusWildChild i would personally recommend kubuntu-desktop it is very nice :D03:28
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WildChildnow I have a lot of problems with X and framebuffer03:28
CarlFKshiloh: apt-get install openssh-server03:28
WildChildI hate KDE :P03:28
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Inferus^^03:28
shilohim just a begginer in linux.. sorry/.03:28
eyequeueshiloh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:28
Inferus^03:28
shilohi will just type that?03:29
jstewWell welcome aboard shiloh03:29
textshelleyequeue: open ist openssh is because it's developed by openbsd people.03:29
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shilohthank you :)\03:29
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danzatxxpor2, yes03:29
eyequeuetextshell, :)03:29
WildChildbut there's not way to make a text install of graphical ubuntu?03:29
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Inferusnot afaik03:29
shilohi will write that in  my terminal?03:29
eyequeueWildChild, use the alternate cd03:29
Inferusshiloh yes =] 03:29
jstewyes shiloh03:29
xxpor2danzat, ok hold on03:29
danzatxxpor2, it's my desktop res03:29
jstewthen youll be prompted for your password.03:29
orbishwildchild have you tried typing text? it's been a while since i installed03:29
WildChildeyequeue: oh, I remember I downloaded it once! I ordered the printed CD and there is no alternate install method on it :P03:30
shilohok .. its now downloading ..03:30
eyequeueWildChild, yeah, shipit i guess is limited :)03:30
WildChildyes shipit...03:30
shilohis this the official help channel for ubuntu?03:30
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eyequeueshiloh, yes03:30
WildChildso the livecd suck for this machine :P just because of the video card03:30
xxpor2danzat, the cvar for fullscreen is r_fullscreen03:30
shilohwow .. thank you ..03:30
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shilohi have another question ..03:30
dsch04Hi all. Can anyone tell me how to do an install with LVM?03:31
shilohwhy is it that my sign in my terminal is $ .. but im the owner .. is it supposed to be # ?03:31
WildChildthey now ship only the live cd. they used to ship the install cd WITH the live cd :(03:31
digitallotusanyone elses video get hosed with the latest xorg update?03:31
eyequeueshiloh, no03:31
erofeedsch04: it is an option when you install03:31
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jstew# = rootshell03:31
dsch04Which installer?03:31
eyequeueshiloh, you don't run as root, that is unwise03:31
eyequeue!root > shiloh03:32
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rambo3your sudoer03:32
erofeethe ubuntu installer, not the live/installer disc03:32
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eyequeuedigitallotus, /topic03:32
digitallotusaha03:32
digitallotussorry03:32
shilohthank you for new information03:32
shilohi will study this :)03:32
eyequeueshiloh, no prob03:32
dsch04erofee: Ah, where do I get that from?03:33
jstewIMHO, I'd rather run a command as root, then log out right away but that's just me. My opinion is that sudo can be just as dangerous and using it gives a false sense of safety.03:33
textshellshiloh: # has nothing to do with owner or not, it's just to show it's a root shell03:33
jstewThat's just me though03:33
shilohthis is how it looks ..03:33
shilohhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:33
shilohno.. sorry03:33
orbishi agree jstew03:33
shilohshiloh@WORKGROUP:~$03:33
hadihi every body03:33
dsch04(I've tried with the DVD from the latest copy of Linux Format and also burned a DVD myself!)03:33
eyequeueshiloh, that is normal, yes03:33
jstew$ == standard user shell.03:33
WildChildYeah! found my alternate install CD with the option "Install in text mode"03:33
jstewbash.03:33
hadigaim close himself after signin my account03:34
shilohah .. even if im the root .. its sign is $ ?03:34
erofeedsch04: when you ordered 5.10 you got two discs, but i don't think 6 ships with 2 discs.  maybe there is a download for it on the ubuntu website.03:34
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textshelljstew: you just need to read sudo as "warning, double check everything, be careful" ;)03:34
rambo3shiloh: sudo -i03:34
danzatxxpor2, it's already set to 103:34
jstewnope, if youre root it will be #03:34
eyequeuehadi, it's not just running in that "bar" up top?03:34
xxpor2danzat, O.o03:34
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shilohkk..03:34
riaalWhats the name of the update after breezy?03:34
WildChildhadi: there is a bug with MSN protocol that make gaim crash since about 2 weeks03:34
dennda_i am searching for the folder that contains the standard ubuntu wallpapers. does anyone know which folder this may be?03:34
dsch04erofee: I didn't order anything - I'm installing from DVDs burned from d/l images.03:34
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eyequeueriaal, dapper is the current release03:35
shilohwow03:35
orbishriall: dapper03:35
shilohim now #03:35
riaalthanks eyequeue03:35
rambo3shiloh: exit03:35
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shilohroot@WORKGROUP:~#03:35
shiloh:)03:35
hadieven teminal some times and fire fox03:35
erofeedsch04: look for a download that is purely the installer, not the live/installer combo03:35
shilohbut .. i dont know how to login using my root account .03:35
eyequeueriaal, sure.  aka 6.06.103:35
textshellshiloh: # or $ is just a matter of the current setting of $BASH_PROMPT or somesuch (an environment variable in bash)03:35
haditerminal03:35
jstewdennda_: /usr/share/wallpapers maybe? Just guessing03:35
KolaNorsuHello! Is that XORG-SERVER-CORE UBUNTU10.4 safety, because 10.3 or something was naughty????03:35
dsch04Am currently trying "Install in Text Mode" from DVD.03:35
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KolaNorsusafely*03:35
eyequeueshiloh, you don't    that is a no-no    see the url03:35
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jstewshiloh: there is no root login in ubuntu03:35
xxpor2danzat, do you have Xgl installed?03:36
shilohahhh03:36
riaaleyequeue: whats the other name of the old one? breezy03:36
jstewIf you want one, sudo passwd root (but don't do it unless you know what youre doing)03:36
eyequeueriaal, 5.1003:36
shilohjust your username ? like mine? shiloh  :)03:36
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danzatxxpor2, yes, i'm using actually compiz03:36
shilohthank you :)03:36
dennda_jstew, no. that folder does not exist. thank you anyway.03:36
riaaleyequeue: thanks03:36
rambo3weard thing with last upgrade it installed compiz even if i didnt want it03:36
eyequeuejstew, it's frowned upon to advise that in #ubuntu, please don't03:36
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xxpor2danzat, http://linux.net.pl/~harnir/2006-04-22/how-to-run-sdl-and-opengl-based-games-under-xgl/03:36
Kennyout[09:35]  dsch04: Am currently trying "Install in Text Mode" from DVD.  <<<I tried OEM mode, and could not see the partitions on my first HD03:36
jsteweyequeue: K, no problem.03:37
erofeedsch04: have you gone through the whole install>03:37
danzatxxpor2, thanks03:37
xxpor2your quite welcome03:37
textshellKolaNorsu: t's supposed to revert the problem. But if you're unsure and your system works at the moment just wait a bit and see if it breaks something03:37
jstewI gotta brush up on my #ubuntu ettiquette.03:37
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xxpor2you're*03:37
eyequeuejstew, gracias :)03:37
shiloh:)03:37
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hadiI want sources list to install realplayer03:37
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shiloh/msg shiloh $ip03:38
eyequeue!realplayer03:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:38
dsch04erofee: I've got what I want in the text mode install.03:38
hadiyes03:38
frfxwhich package must i install to play music with firefox?03:38
shilohhow to know your local IP address?03:38
hadiit is not found in my sources.list03:38
jstewIsn't realplayer in multiverse?03:38
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eyequeue!info realplayer03:39
uboturealplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)03:39
frfxshiloh: command: ifconfig03:39
eyequeue"only"03:39
Maensomeone help me install pptp please...03:39
PhilsenAskhello i can some say me a channel where all about of all Content managment System know03:39
tom_this xorg bug has really fucked me over :(03:39
tom_have installed new package03:39
frfxwhich package must i install to play music with firefox?03:39
tom_but that doesn't change anything!03:39
shilohok .. thank you :)03:39
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jstewMaen: poptop?03:39
shilohfrfx : no .. i mean in Ubuntu03:40
jstewfrfx: the foxytunes extension maybe?03:40
oskudePhilsenAsk: dunno about channel, but here you can test many cms systems opensourcecms.com03:40
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Maenjstew ?03:40
eyequeuewhy would one use firefox to play music anyway?03:40
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hadishiloh> frfx : no .. i mean in Ubuntu ====>> oh no why?03:40
tom_anyone got any idea about how to solve this xorg problem is the new package doesn't help?03:41
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tom_s/is/if03:41
shilohhadi : how to know your Local IP address in ubuntu03:41
eegoreMy xserver has crashed from an update, is there a way to roll back xorg to a previous version?03:41
eyequeuetom_, revert, as in /topic?03:41
eyequeueeegore, /topic03:41
frfxeyequeue: if you don't want to use a music player..03:41
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eegoreI have no gui03:41
jstewwhat doe you mean by "install pptp" then? Kernel module?03:41
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eyequeuefrfx, use the tool for the task, imo03:42
eyequeueeegore, so?03:42
frfxeyequeue: the tool?03:42
eyequeueeegore, /topic still works, does it not?03:42
dennda_ah i found the background folder. it is in: /usr/share/backgrounds03:42
dennda_thanks anyway03:42
jstewGood deal dennda_03:42
eyequeuefrfx, music needs playing, i'd turn to a music player03:42
eegorethat would work if I can get a web page03:42
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eyequeueeegore, sigh03:42
eyequeueeegore, sudo apt-get install lynx03:43
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jsteweegore: this downgrade works for me: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1003:43
shilohhello?>03:43
frfxeyequeue: yes but i want to play the music on my local server..03:43
tom_eyequeue: do you mean try to revert to just 10 as opposed to 10.3 or 10.4?03:43
jstewBut yeah, links, lynx, and elinks work wonders03:43
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eyequeuetom_, yeah03:43
hadi<shiloh> no idea03:43
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shiloh:)03:44
shilohsorry :)03:44
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eyequeuefrfx, you'ew runnung icecast or something?  many music players handle streaming03:44
jstewI'm still hooked on xmms. Does everything I need it to do. amarok is nice too.03:44
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hadihow do I add fonts, I'm try copy paste but does'nt work03:45
SantaCZUHi alll ! Anyone to help linux lama to get my Ubuntu installation working ?03:45
rudizthe update of xserver-xor-core is already on the mirrors03:45
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eyequeuerudiz, or at least some mirrors03:45
rudizjust install  the new version met apt-get03:45
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KenSentMerudiz: here it's not03:45
frfxeyequeue: does icecast plays music in network with browser?03:45
eyequeuerudiz, propagation is not simultaneous03:45
hadi<rudiz> just install  the new version met apt-get=====HOW03:46
rudizok03:46
SantaCZUI have problems just before loading kernel, I think...03:46
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eyequeuefrfx, with music players, yes03:46
andaxanyone else experiencing the "(EE) no devices detected bug" since todays upgrade?03:46
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eyequeueandax, /topic03:46
joabhow does the regular first account work in ubuntu? is it the same as root or does it just have the same password?03:46
DomiXyo03:46
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jstewyes andax. ^^03:46
selinuxiumHi all, how can I check the integrity of a HD?03:46
rudizsorry i mean  apt-get upgrade03:46
eyequeue!rootsudo > joab03:46
andaxsorry i didnt check the topic03:47
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hadirudiz: THX03:47
jstewYou and me both andax :)03:47
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SantaCZUIs here anyone to help me with getting work my Ubuntu installation ?03:47
Pelomorning folks, Is it just me or does ubuntu not take ascii codes ?03:48
Ash-FoxWhen I disable the kernel's boot splash, I noticed there are no colors for [ ok ]  and [failed]  messages. Any way I can enable those?03:48
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xxpor2SantaCZU, is X not working?03:48
PeloSantaCZU  what are you having problems with ?03:48
jstewPelo: that's gotta be the strangest question I've ever heard :)03:48
andaxselinuxium : try the "badblocks" command03:48
eyequeueAsh-Fox, the graphical is the only with colours03:48
textshell! rootsudo > textshell03:48
Pelojstew how so ?03:49
selinuxiumandax: in a term.... I'll have a look, cheers03:49
Ash-Foxeyequeue, on every other distro, the text is colored. Besides that, the graphical also doesn't have the text colored.03:49
jstewWell what are you trying to do pelo?03:49
eyequeueAsh-Fox, "every other distro" eh?  show it to me on debian03:50
tom_eyequeue: I've reverted but still seem to have the same problem03:50
eyequeueAsh-Fox, "failed" is red03:50
jstewlol03:50
eyequeueAsh-Fox, no need for colour otherwise03:50
Ash-Foxeyequeue, I know it is on slackware, mandriva, suse etc.03:50
joabeyequeue: thank you!03:50
frfxeyequeue: this is what is wanted: sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin, for streaming media03:50
orbisheyequeue, i commented out all of my other repositories except for security.ubuntu.com... did a sudo apt-get update, and nothing happened... what do i apt-get install to see if it will download 10.4?03:50
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SantaCZUI am Linux beginner... I installed Ubuntu five days ago and all things went ok, but now,  GRUB loads, it writes messages "Press ESC to enter menu" etc.. ...savedefault... boot and then computer reboots and all things repeat infinitely...03:50
DomiXsomeone run edubuntu with ltsp ?03:50
Pelojstew  I just noticed that I couldn'T use it, , tried a bunch of apps, didnT' work in any,  just wondering if this is a ubuntu thing, a linux thing  or if I just have to enable something,  I am fairly newbish at ubuntu03:51
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hadiwho ais the best of multimidea players?03:51
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PeloSantaCZU  what happens when you don'T press esc ?03:51
jstewwhat do you mean by acsii codes? That's what I was wondering.03:51
lupinewow, this channel is unhealthy for Konversation03:51
andaxhow do I change the text console resolution to somewhat larger than 80x25? (until X gets working again..)03:51
lupineit somehow managed to make it slurp ~400MB of RAM03:52
eyequeueorbish, and ran apt-get update, i presume :)  uncomment the others, you need them ... be sure you have both dapper-security and dapper-updates03:52
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lupineandax: set an option on the kernel bootline... I think it's vga=03:52
Pelojstew   I mean  alt+125 , alt+92 and stuff to get special caracters03:52
jstewSantaCZU: Maybe you erased your kernel or somehow your boto partition got messed up?03:52
eyequeueAsh-Fox, ubuntu derives from debian03:52
andaxlupine: thanks03:52
tom_eyequeue: when I do showpkg xserver-xorg-core it says I've still got both versions 10 and 10.403:52
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orbisheyequeue, well i was just commenting them out because i was under the impression only security.ubuntu.com had the fixed xorg update... i'll figure it out, thanks03:53
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lupinethere's lots of different modes - google knows, I'd imagine - if you've got a framebuffer driver in the kernel, you can get quite good quality *and* a scrollback buffer03:53
hadishiloh: sudo ifconfig03:53
eyequeuetom_, dpkg -l to see what's isntalled, that apt-cache will show you what's available03:53
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xxpor2brb03:53
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Ash-Foxeyequeue, either way, what do I need to look into to add these colors?03:54
hadishiloh: sudo ifconfig03:54
eyequeueAsh-Fox, rewriting the app that displayes them, apparently03:54
SantaCZU I just let 3sec interval to go to zero, GRUB starts running default command... ubuntu server but, I think, when it tries to load kernel, it crushes to reboot.03:54
kyjaI thought I had installed every codec under the sun. but why wont midi files play?03:54
jstewOh, OK pelo. there's accessories->character map. Maybe that has what you need?03:54
eyequeueAsh-Fox, or changing distros to one you like03:54
Carloshhello. I have a problem: I need to burn cd (I have 2 cd-roms - that's not the problem), but I'm on live cd. I tried to burn the cd with Nautilus, but it says, that I have not enough space do make image. I have mounted windows (fat32) partition with all permissions, but how can i use it with Nautilus ?03:55
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Pelojstew I don'T need the caracter map, I'm just wondering why it doesn't work form the keyboard like in dos/windows03:55
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Ash-Foxeyequeue, and what app displays them?03:55
eyequeueAsh-Fox, that's up to you03:55
jstewPelo: I think it does, but I can't recall how to get it...03:55
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Ash-Foxeyequeue, by default?03:55
PeloSantaCZU I think you're better off , boting from the cd and reinstalling03:55
jstewsorry I can't be of more help Pelo.03:55
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eyequeueAsh-Fox, i never cared to know03:56
roxluhi all03:56
roxluI've installed bind9 to setup a local DNS, but its not working, thoug my configuration files seems to be oke03:56
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roxluis there a way to set debuggin on for bind9 ?03:57
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jstewroxlu: Did you set up logging?03:57
SantaCZUPelo, I you sure ? Installation was ok.. no errors, no warnings and so... :(03:57
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roxlujstew: do you know how I can do that?03:57
mixandgoany ideea why I get this: (EE) No devices detected. ? at startx03:57
jstewroxlu: Not right off hand. The bind manual will tell you though03:57
SantaCZU..It is old machine, so, Bios is maybe deprecated.03:57
xxpor2!xorgbug > mixandgo03:57
roxluthanx jstew03:57
andax!xorgbug > andax03:57
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longwaveroxlu: what do you mean "not working"? does bind start? is there anything useful in /var/log? can you run nslookup or dig against your bind?03:57
kyja:(03:57
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roxluoh sorry.. yes bind runs, but it cant' find my domains03:58
Ash-FoxFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.03:58
SantaCZU...and not suiting new versions of kernel or I don't know... I just like to start working and studying Linux.03:58
Carloshcould someone help me03:58
Carlosh?03:58
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roxlulongwave: this is what nslookup gives me: server can't find codra.codra.local: SERVFAIL03:58
eyequeue!anyone > Carlosh03:58
jstewmaybe you just don't have your zones set up correctly then.03:59
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lupinecarlosh: you want an option to burn the disc 'on-the-fly'03:59
roxluyes indeed.. gonna try debugging03:59
jstewBut that's not really a topic for this place.03:59
lupineno idea if the program you're using does03:59
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orbisheyequeue, i just unmasked my repositories, updated apt, and it's installing 10.403:59
Carloshlupine: where can i find it?03:59
longwaveroxlu: yeah that sounds like your bind config files aren't quite right03:59
orbishi'll let you know how it goes03:59
lupineIn the help pages for the program in question03:59
eyequeueorbish, that's the new one03:59
orbishgood03:59
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longwaveroxlu: bind logs a summary of the zones it has loaded when it first starts, i think, so that might give you a clue04:00
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lupineyou could also mount /tmp to something with a bit more space04:00
profoX`Ash-Fox: do you know who's responsable for the management of the repositories? (who decides which branches there are and when to release?)04:00
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Carloshlupine: how can I do that?04:00
lupineman mount04:00
kyjaI cant play midi :(04:00
Ash-FoxprofoX`, I don't know any names, sorry.04:00
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DomiXHow can I add a simple account for ltsp ?04:01
eyequeueDomiX, man adduser04:01
Carloshlupine: thanks, I'll try to make it work.04:01
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_kmh_hi04:01
DomiXeyequeue: I already created users ...04:02
tom_eyequeue: do you know if under dependencies when you do showpkg what it means when it has (null) after a package?04:02
tom_does that mean its not there?04:02
eyequeuetom_, no, sorry04:02
_kmh_i want to install xubuntu and kubuntu on 2 partitions on the same machine04:02
z3r0xhi @ all04:02
DomiXeyequeue: in in the server and also within a chroot /opt/ltsp/i38604:02
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_kmh_and i have a problem with assigning the root partition (in the installer)04:02
tom_eyequeue: ok, thanks...04:02
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eyequeueDomiX, no idea04:03
DomiXthere is no documentation about that :x04:03
_kmh_it seems the current install overwrites the former one (for the roor assignment)04:03
Corporal_Dirgeuh oh, I installed a x server update from the update manager and now X doesn't start.04:03
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z3r0xis it possible to write a script, that starts as soon as I saved a file into a certain folder?04:03
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Ivanowitch_kmh_ wouldn't it be easier to just install both KDE and xfce on the same root?04:03
_kmh_so the former install (xubuntu) does not boot properly anymore04:03
eyequeue_kmh_, you do know you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop on the same install, right?04:03
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eyequeueCorporal_Dirge, /topic04:04
Ash-FoxFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.04:04
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_kmh_Ivanowitch : well yes, but i wanted to have 2 independent installs/os as well04:04
Corporal_Dirgeeyequeue, Ah, ok thanks04:04
_kmh_eyequeue : no not really04:04
eyequeue_kmh_, ununtu-desktop as well, all three04:05
_kmh_eyequeue : sorry i means yes, but that's not what i want04:05
roxlujstew: it tells me it cant' find the file db.codra.local, which I created in /etc/bind ?04:05
eyequeue_kmh_, k04:05
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Ivanowitchhmm ... can't really help you... though, are you installing grub on it's own partition?04:05
profoX`Ash-Fox: do you know where I can do a proposal for a new testing repo in addition to the current repo (current would be dapper right now, and should be asap [as Stable as possible] ) I was thinking about putting packages in those testing repo a few hours in advance to prevents bugs like this xserver-xorg-core happening again, and to also have a wider hardware platform that gets tested, which would be extremely helpful with kernel/driver updat04:05
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profoX`es, I would say a 4 to 8 hours in advance in the testing repo, unless it's a critical security update, then the devs should test it themselves as much as possible, and then release it. do you know where I have to go to propose this?04:05
_kmh_eyequeue : i want to have 2 different independent ubuntu installations on my machine (it just happens to be kubuntu and xubuntu in this case)04:06
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eyequeue_kmh_, understood04:06
_kmh_Ivanowitch : grub goes in the MBR04:06
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_kmh_eyequeue : so can i do that (and how) or is the installer going to play a trick on me ?04:07
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Ash-FoxprofoX`, you'll probably want to bring it up with The Community Council, mailing list is at community-council@lists.ubuntu.com04:07
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raf_xorg update:)04:07
alexdbkimhey04:07
otroeanJust installed Dapper but screen turns black when xserver starts. I have ATI x700. Have tried Vesa driver and it works fine. But ATI doesnt...04:07
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dmsantamalexdbkim, hey there :)04:07
alexdbkimI can see you Daniel04:07
raf_i know how to solve XORG problem:)04:07
alexdbkimwow04:07
eyequeue_kmh_, my guess is, two runs of the alternatecd installer, specify two root partitions, reuse the swap partition04:07
Killer_Demon!xorgbug04:07
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')04:07
Ash-FoxRaf, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.04:08
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tom_raf_: how?04:08
dmsantamalexdbkim, put my name at the front to make it highlight for me04:08
dmsantamalexdbkim, like i am doing for you. that indicates that it's directed to me :)04:08
profoX`Ash-Fox: thanks!04:08
eyequeue_kmh_, just a guess, but worth a try if you can afford to reinstall04:08
raf_sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1004:08
raf_then once that finishes04:08
alexdbkimdmsantam, like this?04:08
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dmsantamalexdbkim, for a private message, do: /msg dmsantam blah04:08
dmsantamalexdbkim, yep :)04:08
raf_sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:08
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alexdbkimoh ok04:08
tom_raf_: thanks, but that doesn't help here :(04:08
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profoX`Ash-Fox: I don't have to register on the ml right? if I mail, I should get the replies in my inbox? never tried mailing to a ml without registering before, but I'm pretty sure it's no problem04:09
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raf_youre reverting to a good xorg there04:09
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alexdbkimUbuntu is worse than Fedora!!!04:10
tom_raf_: yes, but what to do if after reverting it is still broken?04:10
Ash-Foxalexdbkim, it's a trap!04:10
raf_it wont be04:10
profoX`alexdbkim: in what way04:10
tom_raf_: it is!04:10
KragneracFedora!? :o04:10
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KragneracHeh.04:10
Ash-FoxprofoX`, I don't know if you have to register or not, but if you set the reply-to header to your e-mail addy, people may respond to you directly.04:10
raf_u have to do this with xserver off04:10
raf_init 304:10
profoX`Ash-Fox: I'll just register to be sure.. are you regged there? is there alot of mail?04:11
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eyequeueraf_, this is ubuntu, runlevel 3 is no different from runlevel 204:11
Ash-FoxprofoX`, I'm not registered, because I can't already keep up with the small stuff I do :P04:11
profoX`lol04:11
profoX`oh ok04:11
treb0rgot my x working again. scary that an upgrade can break the system.04:11
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xxpor2!limewire > xxpor204:11
eyequeueraf_, nor in upstream debian04:11
tom_treb0r: how did you fix it?04:11
profoX`treb0r: yea... thats why we have to make sure that it does not happen again04:12
raf_i reverted to an older xorg core04:12
treb0rtom_: I looked at the topic here, and followed the link to roll back thew upgrade with apt-get04:12
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tom_hmz, wish I'd done that earlier, think I must've uninstalled or broken something trying to fix it on my own before I came here and saw the topic, and now nothing seems to fix the problem04:13
treb0rWe have clients running ubuntu, and now we are thinking off running our own upgrade server so we can properly test everything before it goes out...04:13
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roxlujstew: oke nice, at least on the local machine I can ping the new domains... though not using another computer althoug I've added the DNS ip to the list...04:14
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roxlujstew: do you know what that can be?04:14
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raf_lol04:14
tom_what should one do if you've totally messed xorg up and the fix outlined in the topic don't work?04:14
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xxpor2hmmm... i have installed sun-java5-jre but limewire still wont run04:15
eyequeuethis really wasn't such a big deal, it's just the loss of a gui04:15
raf_i wouldnt run automatix either...itll automatically install that new xorg04:15
LattywareHey all, I run Ubuntu with Xfce, and I have lost all of my toolbars upon logging in.04:15
raf_without asking!!04:15
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treb0rtom_: I'm no expert, but possibly uninstall X, then reinstall?04:15
eyequeuetom_, perhaps rm the configs and start over with dpkg-recofigure?04:15
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Ash-Foxdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:15
wasabi_Does Ubuntu have fsck utils in a initramfs?04:15
wheelswitchany one good with grip here? trying to work out how to get it to create a log file when ripping flac...04:15
wasabi_Or any other non-root-mounted recovery tool?04:15
treb0ranybody know of a good live cd for revoering files from a crashed windoze box?04:16
treb0rrecovering04:16
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Lattywaretreb0r: try the ultimate boot CD04:16
wasabi_tre, Ubuntu's standard LiveCD can probably mount the windows partition04:16
tom_eyequeue: hmz, ok, but that requires me to know loads of info about my machine that was never required when I first installed ubuntu and I don't know04:16
wasabi_and get whatever you want off of it.04:16
Lattywareit has somthing for pretty much anything.04:16
javiolohow can I log channel on x-chat ?04:17
billybennetthey guys I'm having trouble with flash freezing ever since i switched the firefox dsp thing to AOSS anyone know any work arounds?04:17
treb0rLattyware: thanks dude04:17
LattywareNP04:17
eyequeuejaviolo, settings > preferences04:17
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LattywareI run Ubuntu with Xfce, and I have lost all of my toolbars upon logging in, could anyone help?04:18
jasondotgnuhello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?04:18
javioloeyequeue alredy checked the preferences04:18
javiolonothing about logging channels04:18
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eyequeuejaviolo, what version?04:18
LattywarePrefs -> Chatting -> Logging04:18
LattywareIt's there.04:18
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eyequeuejaviolo, settings > preferences > chatting > logging04:18
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Ash-FoxLattyware, might want to ask #xubuntu04:19
eyequeuejaviolo, ancient, dapper has 2.6.1, upgrade04:19
Zambacianhello04:19
z3r0xdoes somebody know if there is a  folder watcher daemon?04:19
javiolowow, danke04:19
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LattywareAsh-Fox: OK, Thanks04:20
pianoboy3333Can anyone present me with an apt command for forcing the originall ubuntu version of xserver I installed the bad update, and now I'm stuck in b+w bash on my main machine04:20
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bouboubonjour*04:20
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KragneracHello, does anybody know if there is a Linux equivalent to Windows Media Center?04:20
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eyequeuepianoboy3333, /topic04:20
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eyequeueKragnerac, no clue, what does it do?04:20
roxlulongwave: can you help me a bit?04:20
tuxtuxciao04:21
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Zambacianafter an earlier update my X is not working? Anybody with the same problem :(04:21
Kragneraceyequeue: What does MCE do?04:21
Ash-Foxpianoboy3333, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number -- 10.3 messed up). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.04:21
eyequeueZambacian, /topic04:21
LattywareZambacian: Loads of people04:21
LattywareRead the topic04:21
xxpor2does anyone know why after i install java from apt-get, nothing can find it04:21
eyequeueKragnerac, that ms app you mentioned04:21
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pianoboy3333Ash-Fox: ok, thanks04:21
eyequeueKragnerac, and what is mce?04:22
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Kragneraceyequeue: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx04:22
Lattyware... #xubuntu is about as active as a dead stone snail...04:22
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Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to be sure.04:22
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eyequeueKragnerac, ms site is blocked upstream from me, what is it you want to accomplish?04:22
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nateman1352has anyone here tried using the dapper openoffice-dev packages bf?04:23
roxlulongwave: on the ubuntu machine I can ping domains like mysub.codra.local, but not from windows xp ?04:23
Gobfreycan anyone help me set up my new printer?04:23
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eyequeuenateman1352, packages have a boyfriend? ;)04:23
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yeagerhehe, root04:24
nateman1352eyequeue: lol... wait... I'm a boy04:24
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xxpor2does anyone know why after i install java from apt-get, nothing can find it04:25
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GobfreyMy USB printer isn't beeing seen.  How can I make Ubuntu see it?04:26
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jasondotgnuhello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?04:26
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eyequeueman MAKEDEV i guess04:27
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eyequeuejasondotgnu, uppercase required04:27
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alexdbkimHow can I add command menu on popup dialog which appears when I click right mouse button?04:27
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ost2lifeokay, does anyone want to help me avoid having my parents kill me?04:27
jasondotgnueyequeue, I'll try it. Thanks, :)04:28
alexdbkimPlease help me :)04:28
chrnuhhi... how hard it would be for a ubuntu newbie to connect a gps device to my laptop running ubuntu? gps works on bluetooth... and i do i know wich bluetooth adapter i have in my laptop ?04:28
eyequeuesh: murder: command not found04:28
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_maneyjust recently, perhaps following an update (that I didn't much notice), apt* is giving errors about some repositories that don't have Packages.bz2.  Checking manually, they do have Packages.gz, and I suspect that something in apt changed because at least two unreleated repos that have been working fine became broken at the same time.04:28
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Snakehttp://ubuntu.justgotowned.com04:28
SnakeX^04:28
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alexdbkimCan anyone please tell my how to add command menu on popup dialog?04:28
UKMattso I just upgraded the core update and just now found out it kills your graphics, does anyone know how to fix it?04:29
dmsantamalexdbkim, you're asking on #ubuntu!04:29
dmsantamalexdbkim, go to #csharp !04:29
SnakeUKMatt: look in the topic04:29
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eyequeueSnake, some flash crap?04:29
ost2lifeokay, how do I install real player on ubuntu so that my parents can watch the BBC news websites videos?04:29
UKMattsnake. the topic?04:29
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SnakeUKMatt: type /topic04:29
alexdbkimI meant on Ubuntu :P04:29
andaxost2life, www.getautomatix.com04:29
eyequeueUKMatt, .topic, in your irc client04:29
SnakeUKMatt: there are detailed instructions on how to solve it04:29
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eyequeueUKMatt, /topic, in your irc client04:29
alexdbkimdmsantam, I meant on Ubuntu04:30
alexdbkim:)04:30
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dmsantamalexdbkim, really?!04:30
alexdbkimdmsantam, because I want to add Terminal icon on the popup dialog04:30
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dmsantamalexdbkim, which popup dialog?04:30
roxluwhen I created a link with "ln -s source target" how can I remove only the "target" link?04:30
Inferuslol Snake04:30
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dmsantamroxlu, rm target04:30
eyequeuealexdbkim, you can at least add it to the gnome-panel bar at the top04:30
roxluoke04:30
matsor man ln ;)04:31
alexdbkimdmsantam, you know when you click right mouse button on Desktop screen04:31
roxlurm target was faster :-)04:31
eyequeuealexdbkim, right click on the bar04:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, ahh04:31
alexdbkimeyequeue, I knew that but thanks :)04:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, good question :)04:31
eyequeuealexdbkim, all i know how, heh04:31
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alexdbkim:)04:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, it's gonna be a gnome config04:31
alexdbkimdmsantam, what is that?04:32
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dmsantamalexdbkim, i don't know the name04:32
dmsantamalexdbkim, but when you ask question, you need to be more descriptive.04:32
UKMattthats brutal for Ubuntu, i feel bad for the guys b/c i bet thats driving them crazy04:32
alexdbkimdmsantam, Fedora has the menu on the popup dialog which is really convinient :P04:32
dmsantamalexdbkim, e.g.  when i right click the gnome desktop, i get a menu. i want to add something to that menu. how can i do that?04:32
chrnuh04:32
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Snakeis there an approx. time till this bug is fixed? I don't mind not rebooting uptil an update is released, but I would like to know how long04:33
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Lattyware10.4 is the good Xorg update, yeah?04:33
andaxSnake, it's already fixed04:33
shawnr_dmsantam, what are you trying to add04:33
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Snakeandax: They don't plan to release it into the stream...?04:33
LattywareYou need to hit 'Check' for it to update to the right one.04:33
alexdbkimshawnr_, Terminal04:33
Snakehmm04:34
dmsantamshawnr_, a custom command. like a terminal04:34
andaxSnake, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ...04:34
dmsantamshawnr_, tell alexdbkim he wants to know :)04:34
eyequeueSnake, it depends how long it takes to propagate to your mirror, say 24h to be safe04:34
Snakeandax: I am04:34
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gravesonwhat version of divx is an mp4 file04:34
SnakeAh wunderbar :)04:34
alexdbkimshawrn_, could you please tell me how to do that?04:35
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alexdbkimshawrn_, :)04:35
eyequeuethe 10.4 upgrade JUST propagated to us.archive.ubuntu.com btw all! :)04:35
Lattywaregraveson: anything from 1 to 4 I think.04:35
shawnr_alexdbkim, nautilus takes control of your desktop. including the right click. you can stop that04:35
andaxSnake, then modify /etc/apt/sources.list, use "us.archive.ubuntu.com"04:35
Snakeandax: thats what I normally use04:35
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LoRezWarning: `chrnuh' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.04:35
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eyequeueSnake, change the the us mirror and do it now if you like04:35
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eyequeueSnake, change to the us mirror and do it now if you like04:35
Snakeeyequeue: I am :)04:36
shawnr_chrnuh, try not to do that again04:36
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alexdbkimshawrn_, could you explain me about it?04:36
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xevilchrnuh: cat standing on the enter key?04:36
eyequeueSnake, wasn't sure if you could see it through the spammer04:36
Lattywareweo: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb04:36
Lattyware  Could not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182), connection timed out04:36
kashuallo peeps04:36
tom_eyequeue: so, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg which seems to have gotten rid of the undefined symbol error, but I still get "no screens found" trying both 10 and 10.404:36
Lattyware:/04:36
shawnr_alexdbkim, you can use gconf-editor to edit nautilus properties.04:36
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eyequeuetom_, that surprises me, i feel your pain but don't know what to suggest04:37
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Intangirhey guys, whats the easiest way to batch edit an entire directory with sed?04:37
tom_eyequeue: thanks for you help anyway :/04:37
tom_:)04:37
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matsgood luck, eyequeue04:37
mats;)04:37
andaxtom, maybe (just like me) you have messed up  your X config trying to figure out what's wrong so think about if you have modified something..04:37
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alexdbkimshawrn_, thanks, I run gconf-editor but there are too many thigns in it so could you give me a hint which option I have to look at04:38
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frogzootom_: did you run depmod?04:38
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tom_andax: yes, that's why we ran the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg script (which it tells you to do in the x config file is you messed with it and want to start again)04:39
dijungalquestion: what gui firewall can i install on ubuntu04:39
dijungal?04:39
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monteirodijungal : firestarter04:39
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maxx03hey can somebody help me out pls? synaptic seems to be broken... i can install packages using apt-get, but synaptic does nothing...04:39
tom_frogzoo: depmod didn't seem to do anything04:39
andaxtom: that command basically just re-creates your xorg.conf file, maybe something else you have modified?04:39
dijungalit's not in the synaptic list04:39
OoberMickalexdbkim: have you tried nautilus-open-terminal?04:39
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jbroome!info firestarter04:40
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB04:40
frogzootom_: well now try gdm start again, maybe04:40
KenSentMeCan someone explain to me what this comment on a upgrade request means? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/penguintv/+bug/5256704:40
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frogzoomaxx03: did you set a proxy in synaptic?04:40
dmsantamOoberMick, what is that?04:40
OoberMickalexdbkim: assuming you're the right person.... right-click open terminal?04:40
jbroomeare you running synaptic and apt at the same time?04:40
ericzso what happened with x.org, heh.. i had to sudo apt-get upgrade in a console because i kept getting an X server error with twinview?04:40
maxx03frogzoo, nope... i've always just used the default settings04:40
kashual^04:40
maxx03frogzoo, just recently it stopped working04:40
OoberMickdmsantam: right-click open terminal04:41
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andaxericz, /topic04:41
dmsantamOoberMick, if you do that on the desktop, there is no "open terminal". the question is how to add "open terminal" to that menu04:41
tom_is there a re-install everything that X needs command?!?04:41
frogzoomaxx03: low disk on /tmp ?04:41
OoberMickdmsantam: with nautilus-open-terminal?04:41
ardchoilledmsantam: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal04:41
mrDanielbecause under linux no powermizer is available (a tool for setting power-consumption) i want to try coolbits to set the GPU speed of my GeForce Go 760004:41
dmsantamahh! thx04:42
OoberMickdmsantam: yeah that04:42
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alexdbkimOoberMich, Thanks, but I don't have nautilus-open-terminal. How can I make it?04:42
dmsantamalexdbkim, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal04:42
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alexdbkimdmsantam, good04:42
mrDanielbut when write the line 'Coolbits "1" ', my xserver cannot start, because he don't understand the line 'coolbits'04:42
alexdbkimOoberMich, thanks!! :)04:42
maxx03frogzoo, how can i tell?04:42
mrDanieldo anyone knoe where the problem could be?04:42
alexdbkimOoberMick, thanks!! :)04:42
frogzoomaxx03: df -h    - look for 99%/100%04:43
dijungalsweeet!!! i got firestarter... had to add the community repository04:43
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dijungalthanks guys04:43
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mrDanielalso: when I use the line 'Option "Coolbits" "1" ', my xserver want's to start, but no new options are available04:43
mrDaniel??04:43
alexdbkimOoberMich, do I have to restart X?04:43
frogzoomrDaniel: coolbits won't work for X - it's a windows registry setting04:43
frogzooafaik04:43
maxx03frogzoo, i see a 89%, but that's /dev/sda1, my windows partition... everything else is low04:44
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OoberMickalexdbkim: I'm not sure... probably04:44
dmsantamalexdbkim, no04:44
dmsantamalexdbkim, killall nautilus04:44
dmsantamalexdbkim, then nautilus will restart, and it should appear04:44
janbananI'm about to install dapper but it's just the live-cd that starts to run. I wan't to install it04:44
OoberMickalexdbkim: listen to dmsantam his words are wise04:45
ost2lifeokay, i just used automatix but it still didn't work04:45
Dr_Willisthe live cd has an  'install' icon on the desktop04:45
ost2lifethe realplayer install script crashed out04:45
Dr_Willis!automatix04:45
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.04:45
alexdbkimOoberMich, wow it works :)04:45
maxx03frogzoo, got some new information.... the thing i was having problems with is not synaptic... it seems to some sort of frontend to synaptic... it appears in the menu bar saying "there are X updates available".... when i try to run synaptic from system | administration is refuses to even start....04:45
alexdbkimdmsantam, you are really good at Linux man04:45
frogzoomaxx03: run synaptic from the command line - it might give a hint04:46
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dijungalquestion: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server04:46
dmsantamhehe04:46
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alexdbkim:)04:46
Dr_Willismaxx03,  theres been a bug wigh some libraries/updates that broke synaptic04:46
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maxx03frogzoo, "error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4"04:46
janbananDr_Willis: that suck because i get an error with no screen found before i reach the desktop. it has to do with the ATI drivers.04:47
Dr_Willismaxx03,  thats it. :P04:47
maxx03frogzoo, sounds like it... how do it fix it04:47
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Dr_Willisjanbanan,  use the 'alternative' install cd.04:47
frogzoo!xorgbug04:47
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')04:47
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Dr_Willismaxx03,  remove and reinstall the libvte-common package04:47
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frogzoo!xorgbugfix > janbanan04:47
Pukawka-HiNduShello04:47
Dr_Willis!info libvte-common04:47
ubotulibvte-common: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 1056 kB04:47
janbananDr_Willis: sweet04:47
maxx03ok Dr_Willis i'll give that a shot04:48
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dijungalquestion: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server04:48
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Pukawka-HiNduScan someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??04:48
maxx03ouch, it sure is removing a lot of dependencies04:48
maxx03i hope this is going to be ok04:48
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Pukawka-HiNduScan someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??04:49
frogzooDr_Willis: libvte4 on dapper has that file04:49
dmsantamPukawka-HiNduS, asking twice isn't going to help :)04:49
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Pukawka-HiNduS:)04:49
SKossuQuestion: I just tried installing ubuntu 6.06 and chose the first option to start ubuntu and install, and it booted the kernel and went trough all the phases of starting up. Though then it stopped and bitched something about connect debounce port 6 and got stuck on a black screen, am I fucking something up?04:49
frogzoomaxx03: reinstall libvte404:49
hadihi every body my xorg does not work after update..!04:49
Dr_Willisfrogzoo,  huh? the fix has been to remove/reinsall the package for most people that have had the issue.04:50
dmsantamhadi04:50
dmsantamhadi, read the topic04:50
dmsantamhadi, you need to downgrade04:50
AHillsbeI have an x server problem, i was wondering if someone could help me?04:50
frogzooDr_Willis: oh, so it's known, cool04:50
sparkleytoneSKossu: you using a usb keyboard?04:50
hadiTHX04:50
SKossuyes sir04:50
maxx03frogzoo, yeah i did... but now i've lost heaps of things including synaptic itself04:50
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sparkleytoneSKossu: does it have its own hub for stuff to plug into?04:50
Ash-Foxhadi, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number -- 10.3 messed up). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.04:50
frogzoomaxx03: well maybe reinstall it then04:50
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SKossuyes, its the G15 keyboard04:51
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alexdbkimbye04:51
maxx03frogzoo, i installed libvte-common after removing it... but the other things have not come back04:51
sparkleytoneSKossu: unplug anything you have plugged into it and try again04:51
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Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade04:51
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sparkleytoneSKossu: also...preface your responses with my name please...otherwise you'll get lost in the shuffle04:51
frogzoomaxx03: dpkg -l libvte404:51
msoulhadi: hadi wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb04:51
SKossusparkleytone: Nothing is plugged into the keyboard04:51
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade *corrected spelling*04:51
hadican I fix this problem now or not?04:51
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sparkleytoneSKossu: is it plugged into a hub or anything?04:51
dmsantamhadi, listen to Ash-Fox04:52
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dmsantamhadi, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu1004:52
SKossusparkleytone: I got an extra hub that has webcam and bluetooth device connected04:52
msoulhadi: yes if you just do what I just told you to do04:52
dmsantamhadi, then restart gdm, and away you go04:52
sparkleytoneSKossu: funnily enough i had that very issue yesterday using an apple keyboard after i plugged an IR receiver into one of the USB ports on it04:52
maxx03frogzoo, it says Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/unpacked/filaed-config/half-installed04:52
maxx03frogzoo, did i just ruin my install?04:52
sparkleytoneSKossu: for now, disconnect all usb devices other than the keyboard.04:52
hadimsoul: I will, thx04:52
msoulsure04:52
AHillsbehow can you enable the x server?04:53
frogzoomaxx03: dunno, try 'sudo apt-get install libvte4'04:53
sparkleytoneAHillsbe: define 'enable'04:53
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frogzooAHillsbe: x break for you?04:53
SKossusparkleytone: Alright, I'll give it a shot.04:53
sparkleytoneSKossu: you probably don't have to reinstall04:53
pussfellerhey when I fire up gnome baker, it doesn't show any of my devices04:53
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Ademani have one update available its xserver-xorg-core   is that the infamous broken X?04:53
pussfellerno cd-rom, no cdrw04:53
AHillsbeit wont let me run gdm it says x server is disabled - no screen error04:53
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SKossusparkleytone: It isn't installed yet, It wouldn't go into the "desktop" to install.04:54
frogzooAdeman: most likely04:54
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frogzoo!xorgbugfix > AHillsbe04:54
Ademani can't believe they didnt take it out of the repositories or something04:54
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maxx03frogzoo, ok it installed04:54
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frogzoomaxx03: well now what?04:55
maxx03frogzoo, but now i'm still missing heaps of other packages04:55
AHillsbei have had it running, it crashed after i tried to hibernate04:55
frogzoomaxx03: well put them back in I guess04:55
Ademandoes AIGLX work with NVIDIA drivers? (just unaccelerated or something?)04:55
maxx03frogzoo: i have the list of packages it removed... do u think it would work if i just reinstalled each of those?04:55
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frogzoomaxx03: that's should work04:55
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frank_bhas anyone had their computer shut down because of the problem with xorg 10.3?04:56
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maxx03frogzoo, i've got unmet dependencies04:56
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frank_bshut down on its own, that is04:57
maxx03frogzoo, gnome-terminal depends on gnome-terminal-data.... and it's complaining of the version of that i have installed or something04:57
klm-Is a firewall useful when using Ubuntu?04:57
Ademanmines 10.4 is that updated and safe?04:57
Ademanxserver-xorg-core04:57
frank_bklm-, of course. you need it to open some incoming ports when you want to04:58
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klm-but is it needed to protect my own files from intruders?04:58
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frank_bklm-, a firewall control program, that is. ubuntu already has a firewall by edfault04:58
KenSentMeAdeman: 10.4 is the fixed version04:58
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Ademanyay04:58
Ademanthanks04:58
Ash-Foxfrank_b, scame, You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade04:59
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frank_bwhere is a 10.4 version of xorg availabel?04:59
dmsantamfrank_b, it is available now on some mirrors04:59
RalleAbhello guys! How do I make it so I can copy and remove files to my fat32 partition?04:59
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KenSentMefrank_b: the mirrors are updating, so just wait until your mirror has it too04:59
frank_bdmsantam, Ash-Fox , thanks04:59
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thoreauputicfrank_b: or downgrade as in the /topic05:00
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frank_bKenSentMe, thoreauputic , thanks05:00
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maxx03frogzoo, yeah it looks pretty screwed man... damn i was hoping this install of linux would last me until i upgraded to a 64bit merom cpu05:00
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frank_bhas anyone has the computer shut down on it's own because of the bug with xorg 10.3?05:01
frank_b*has anyone had05:01
Ash-FoxNo.05:01
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KenSentMeI now get an error when i do apt-get update. connection refused to archive.ubuntu.com. I hope that's because the mirror is being updated05:01
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AHillsbefrank_: i have had aproblem with xserver05:01
thoreauputicfrank_b: should be OK as long as you don't restart05:01
Ash-FoxAHillsbe, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:02
frank_bthoreauputic, ok05:02
HeathenDanis 10.4 guaranteed to work?05:02
thoreauputicheh05:02
AHillsbewill that fix the no screen error?05:02
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frfxfluxbox or icewm?05:02
shadeofgreyhey everybofy05:03
shadeofgreywhat are the best tools for blogging in ubuntu?05:03
Ash-FoxAHillsbe, yes.05:03
AHillsbeok05:03
Dr_WillisHeathenDan,  Guarentted or your $$ back!05:03
jbroomevi05:03
frank_bwell, I woke up today with my computer shut down. and when I restarted it it gave me an error with xorg (I solved it already). could xorg be the reason why it shut down on its own?05:03
Thunderpantsshadeofgrey, gnome-blog?05:03
Ash-Foxshadeofgrey, vi in my opinion05:03
HeathenDanlol05:03
Ash-Foxfrank_b, no.05:03
jadamshow can I get a key's keycode?05:03
jm^Use xev.05:04
jadamsspecifically, I'm trying to enable my multimedia keys in gnome05:04
jadamsthanks05:04
frfxwhat are the pro and cons of fluxbox and icewm?05:04
frank_bAsh-Fox, ok, thanks05:04
jm^You're welcome.05:04
DarkAudit10.3 on my list... updating list now...05:04
shadeofgreyoh cerap05:04
Dr_Willisfrfx,  use them,, if ya like them... good.. if not try somthing else. :P they both use less memory.resorureces then other bigger desktops05:04
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shadeofgreyvi is that breaindead text editor i could never undfwerstand05:05
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jm^shadeofgrey, use vim.05:05
shadeofgrey'woiuld somebody give me a heads up on how to use  it?05:05
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shadeofgreywhats the diff between vi and vim05:05
jm^shadeofgrey, there's a web blog called mvblog that's fairly good (www.mvblog.org)05:05
FunnyLookinHatshadeofgrey, it's got a bit of a llearning curve.  you could probably google "vim tutorial"05:05
jadamsjm^: I didn't see the codes being output for the keypresses with xev...05:05
Ash-Foxwhen I say vi, I mean vim.05:05
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jm^shadeofgrey, vim = Vi IMproved05:05
gdbshadeofgrey: the difference is that no one actually uses real vi anymore05:06
gdbshadeofgrey: so the difference is moot05:06
thoreauputicshadeofgrey: or type  vimtutor  in a terminal05:06
treb0ror use emacs ;-)05:06
jm^jadams, xev needs to be in focus.05:06
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thoreauputicvimtutor walks you through it05:06
E[m] esshi, my box powered down in a thunderstorm when we had a blackout, and when i boot normally it stops after initialising X and justshows the ubuntu splash. when i boot into recovry mode and try to startx, i get the error that no devices were found/initialised. i looked at the X config and its fine, any ideas?05:06
Ash-FoxIsn't emacs it's own OS? :P05:06
jadamsjm^: no, no05:06
mititeluhello, got a problem... i have AMD64 dapper drake, updated Xserver (through update sistem), and now after a restart Xserv won't start (says no screens or something)05:06
jadamsit was sending codes for "l" and whatnot05:06
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thoreauputicE[m] ess:  /topic05:06
eyequeuemititelu, /topic05:06
gdbYeah, emacs would actually make a really great alternative OS... it just needs a decent text editor.05:06
Ash-Foxmititelu, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:07
treb0rAsh-Fox: yep, it outshines all of other editors in the same way that thw morning sun outshines the stars, or something05:07
jadamsbut when I hit mute, for instance, 0xa0 never showed up on the terminal05:07
jadams(though I know that's the code)05:07
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Nanaki_YamabushiHi I got a big problem with ubuntu. I can#t get the desktop running anymore. At start up it says no screen found on my laptop. any help to get the desktop back without reinstall?05:07
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eyequeueNanaki_Yamabushi, /topic05:07
treb0rNanaki_Yamabushi: Join the club!!05:07
Dr_WillisNanaki_Yamabushi,  did it used to work? if so check the topic. theres a update bug.05:07
thoreauputic*sigh* this is a bad bug05:08
Ash-Foxtreb0r, I've seen webbrowsers, IRC clients, instant messaging clients on emacs :P05:08
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Nanaki_YamabushiIt did work 5 minutes ago05:08
Ash-FoxNanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:08
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treb0rAsh-Fox: yep, but the really cool feature is dired, the directory editor. A gui for your terminal..05:08
eyequeueNanaki_Yamabushi, /topic, it was your reboot05:08
frank_bklm-, you still there?05:08
shadeofgreyokay guys i need a text editorwith a full gui that allows me to use a full sized squyare cursor05:08
shadeofgreyare there any?05:08
Nanaki_Yamabushiuhm my laptop just shutted down05:09
klm-frank_b: yes05:09
jbroomepeople have the oddest requests in here05:09
shadeofgreyi have glaucoma and am going blind.. i cant deal with the | cursor anymore05:09
shadeofgreyits very hard for me to see05:09
treb0rNanaki_Yamabushi: go read /topic05:09
blind<_<05:09
dmsantamshadeofgrey, gvim in command mode05:09
Ash-FoxNanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:09
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OoberMickshadeofgrey: emacs does to05:09
simirahow to I sftp to somewhere using a key for login?05:09
frank_bklm-, sorry, I didn't see your second message05:10
eyequeuesimira, sftp host, it should prompt05:10
thoreauputicsimira: you set up ssh keys05:10
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simiraeyequeue: for a key?05:10
dmsantamsimira, you need to create a key05:10
dmsantamsimira, then scp the public key up to the server05:10
simirathoreauputic: I do have a key, and a server. But the usual "Connect to network place" doesn't have a key option05:10
eyequeuesimira, no, sorry.  you ssh-keygen first, then edit ~/.ssh/config for that host05:11
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dmsantamsimira, ssh-keygen -t dsa05:11
dmsantamsimira, oh05:11
simirano, no, no05:11
frank_bklm-, I don't know much about firewalls, but from the little I know, yes, a firewall it's highly recomended to protect your ports05:11
dmsantamsimira, i c :)05:11
thoreauputicsimira: it shouldn't need one if your ssh is configured right05:11
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dakadlo?05:11
simiraI need an sftp client that has an option for giving up a key05:11
hadi_hi agine05:11
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frank_bklm-, to not let someone use your ports unless you authorize them to05:11
eyequeuesimira, man sftp05:11
simirathoreauputic: should it work if I put my key in .id_dsa?05:12
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hadi_I fix problem successfully05:12
thoreauputicsimira: can you ssh using keys to that host?05:12
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simirathoreauputic: yes05:12
thoreauputicsimira: if not, first you need to set up your keypairs05:12
thoreauputicOk05:12
dakadcan someone give me a hand getting my wireless card to connect to my router?05:12
hadi_do I update xorg to 10.3 or not05:12
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simirathoreauputic: the keypars is in place, I only need where to give up the key to access05:13
hadi_do I update xorg to 10.3 or not05:13
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jturekupdate to 10.405:13
eyequeuehadi, no05:13
hadi_sure?05:13
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thoreauputicsimira: sorry I don't follow you - are you saying you can't sftp using paswords to that host?05:13
eyequeuehadi_, 10.3 was bad, use 10.405:13
Ash-Foxhadi_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:13
thoreauputic*passwords05:13
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hadi_OK05:13
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steve_Every time I do an update I get the follwing error:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)05:14
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frank_bhadi_, 10.3 no. it has a bug. update to 10.4 instead05:14
dakadmy wireless card won't connect to my router, even tho the SSID and wep-key have been entered correctly. I know the card works 'cos i connected briefly to my neighbours router. any advice?05:14
steve_It's preventing me from installing any packages.05:15
simirathoreauputic: correct05:15
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hadi_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:15
hadi_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:15
hadi_why05:15
thoreauputicsteve: try   sudo dpkg --configure -a  , the try again05:15
eyequeuehadi_, close the app that has the lock05:15
steve_ok05:15
lassegshadi_: is another process using it?05:15
thoreauputichadi_: close any install apps you have open05:15
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hadi_oh yes it's updater05:16
thoreauputichadi_: like synaptic, apt etc05:16
thoreauputicright05:16
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IdleOnewhat is the command to see what user are logged on?05:16
AHillsbe  apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was notfound05:16
thoreauputicIdleOne: who or  w05:16
AHillsbeapt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was not found05:16
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eyequeueAHillsbe, propagation takes time, wait05:16
tiede#ubuntu-fr05:16
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lassegsits actually easier to read the error output than logging in to ubuntu@freenode to get the answer :P05:16
thoreauputicAHillsbe: then it isn't on your mirror yet05:16
AHillsbelike hours or minutes05:17
fuci_What's a good player to play .mkv files?05:17
steve_Gave a bunch of dependcy errors and I still get the same error.05:17
Ash-FoxAHillsbe, ask the people who run your mirror.05:17
IdleOnethoreauputic, there is a command that will show all logged on users do you know it?05:17
elvstonehum. i'm trying to add a user to a group with "sudo usermod -G video pow", but the user is not added to the group :/05:17
tiedejoin #ubuntu-fr05:17
eyequeueAHillsbe, 24h if you want to be safe05:17
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thoreauputicAHillsbe: depends where you are05:17
AHillsbehow do i do that?05:17
Emessdidnt liek the version number for the update...05:17
elvstonee.g. grep pow /etc/group after that command gives nothing :/05:17
dakadtied: try /join #ubuntu-fr05:17
thoreauputicIdleOne: I told you :  who  or w05:17
Nanaki_Yamabushiupdate worked05:17
AHillsbemirrir?05:17
Ash-FoxNo, mirror.05:17
eyequeueelvstone, sudo adduser elvstone video05:17
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eyequeueelvstone, sudo adduser pow video05:17
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AHillsbemy mirror is different?05:18
IdleOnethoreauputic, that only shows my user. but I know there are others I want to know which and kill them05:18
elvstoneeyequeue: but the login already exists, i'd like to modify it.05:18
SanketMedhihello05:18
thoreauputicAHillsbe: it depends on you rcountry code usually05:18
SanketMedhihas anyone checked out the new Gaim ?05:18
elvstoneeyequeue: i used useradd -m -s /bin/bash pow to add it btw..05:18
eyequeueelvstone, sudo adduser pow video   adds the existing pow to the group05:18
AHillsbeok05:18
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Nanaki_Yamabushino where can I look for the new gaim05:18
eyequeueelvstone, useradd is, um, old?05:18
elvstoneeyequeue: oh. okay. why doesn't usermod -G work? it usually does..05:18
thoreauputicIdleOne: erm, they are logged on how? ssh?05:18
elvstoneeyequeue: it's standard isn't it?05:19
IdleOnethoreauputic, possibly05:19
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eyequeueelvstone, adduser/deluser has been standard in debian for years now05:19
thoreauputicIdleOne: well, w usually shows ssh logons IIRC05:19
elvstoneeyequeue: alright, sorry, coming from BSD :)05:19
elvstoneeyequeue: thanks!05:19
IdleOnethoreauputic, ok thanks05:19
method|my audio is out of sync on youtube, anyone else have this prob?05:19
AHillsbethat update will fix the "fatal server error: no screens found"05:19
eyequeueelvstone, np, many similarities, and a few gotchas, heh05:19
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AHillsbe?05:20
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eyequeueAHillsbe, /topic, yes05:20
thoreauputicmethod|: yes, flv often is a bit out of sync - are you using flash ?05:20
method|yes05:20
elvstoneeyequeue: hm. it's still not added, sudo adduser pow video && grep pow /etc/group yields nothing :/05:20
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thoreauputicmethod|: the linux flash player sucks basically - nothing much can be done as it is closed source05:21
eyequeueelvstone, okay, first off, your user has sudo permissions, right?05:21
tsubasaleguedinhello !05:21
AHillsbehow do i reboot from the command prompt05:21
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elvstoneeyequeue: yep. i'm using my regular login 'elvstone'.05:21
eyequeueAHillsbe, sudo reboot05:21
Nanaki_Yamabushiuse sudo reboot05:21
method|thoreauputic: well that's just awesome05:21
tsubasaleguedinCan I update my ubuntu without breaking X tonight ?05:21
thoreauputicmethod|: if you can download the video mplayer plays flv05:21
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:21
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elvstoneeyequeue: and it has sudo permission (i use it all the time).05:21
dakadanyone want to give me a hand with my wireless card?05:21
eyequeueelvstone, sudo vigr should work, but the other should have as well05:21
thoreauputicmethod|: complain to macromedia/adobe05:21
oplHi all, I am a teacher and I look for a free ftp Programm which is available for Linux and Windows. Do you know a good program?05:21
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method|mplayer can play flash?05:21
method|didnt know that05:21
eyequeuevigr (8)             - edit the password, group, shadow-password or shadow-group file.05:21
thoreauputicmethod|: no, it can play flv05:22
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mopfliteopl: do you want a program that will run on both platforms?05:22
method|ic05:22
elvstoneeyequeue: alright. i'll try with vigr.05:22
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Ash-Foxopl, there is one that comes with linux and windows called 'ftp'05:22
eyequeueelvstone, i don't normally recommend vi-ish things, but you're from bsd :)05:22
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Nanaki_YamabushiI also have a problem with Flash. most of the time I have no sound in it at all.05:22
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thoreauputicmethod|: ffplay can also play flv with the right codecs05:22
ketsugieyequeue: I must say, vi's learning curve is steep but I've gotten to enjoy using it05:22
dsch04Ok, my first Ubuntu install is go!05:22
ketsugiNow emacs, that one is still a mystery to me!05:22
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elvstoneeyequeue: oops, sorry. did the sudo adduser in the wrong VT the first time :)05:23
eyequeueketsugi, yeah, and with vimtutor, the basics are not all that bad05:23
oplmopflite: yes so the kids don't have to leard difrent programs. In school we use Linux at home they use Windows05:23
rob86is it normal to have public IPs under lo0_aliasX? for some reason my host put my "extra" ips assigned to me under lo0.. lo0_alias0, lo0_alias1, etc.. these are public IPs though and not private/local05:23
elvstoneeyequeue: worked fine now.05:23
StephenLFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)05:23
eyequeueelvstone, glad to hear there was a sensible explanation :)05:23
dsch04First question: how do I configure X to support dual monitors?05:23
dsch04(laptop LCD display, and external Dell LCD panel)05:23
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StephenLI get that error every time I try to try to do an apt-get update05:23
thoreauputicmethod|: most youtube vids are flv05:23
eyequeue!xinerama > dsch0405:23
mopfliteopl: I tend to doubt that there is a cross platform ftp client - personally if I were teaching kids about computing, I would first teach them how to use command line ftp on both, and then perhaps show them some gui clients05:24
oplAsh-Fox: do you have a link?05:24
dsch04eyequeue: On FC5, there is a gnome Display app under Desktop|Administration.05:24
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dsch04Is there something similar in Ubuntu?05:24
eyequeuemopflite, but ftp protocol is so not-used these days, insecure etc05:24
Ash-Foxopl, no, you can run it in cmd under windows and in the terminal on linux05:24
StephenLI tried sudo dpkg --configure -a  ... I got a bunch of dependency errors and I still get the same error.05:24
phreakyshi05:24
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thoreauputicmopflite: filezilla has a windows and a linux version05:24
phreakysis there a way to dock all those seperate windows of the gimp in one big window(like photoshop)05:25
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phreakys?05:25
mopfliteopl: for the linux platform, hyst type "ftp" at the command line - "man ftp" for a usage summary05:25
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eyequeuemopflite, sftp perhaps, though i prefer scp05:25
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John[1] Stephen are you trying to install dapper server?05:25
thoreauputicmopflite:  lftp is *way* better for cli ftp05:25
oplmopflite and Ash-Fox: I never thought about this. It is an interssting approach. I check into it.Thx for the hint05:25
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StephenLJohn: No.  dapper desktop.05:26
thoreauputicStephenL: try  sudo apt-get -f install05:26
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vciagliahey guys, the latest "xserver-xorg" update has problem ?05:26
mopfliteeyequeue: lots of web space solutions provide ftp access, but no shell access - shell access (required for sftp to work) is generally only offered with more expensive "developers pack" web hosting options05:26
RuarriSdoes anyone know what to do if i can choose Xgl from the sessions menu at login but Xgl won't start and i get booted back to the login screen?05:26
Ash-Foxvciaglia, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:26
jayteevciaglia, it screwed up my installation05:26
eyequeuemopflite, you seem to use some strange hosting services, i'd never use one without ssh05:26
StephenLthoreauputic:  Ok.  I'll try.05:26
thoreauputicjaytee: join the ubuntu-users mailing list - that's how I found out05:26
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jayteethoreauputic, good idea05:26
jaytee:)05:26
John[1] Well I was trying that also and was getting the same errors'  I was on here last night asking question and there are so many people chatting at once that I never got a answer.05:27
phreakyshm, gimpshop any good?05:27
vciagliaAsh-Fox, and it works ?05:27
erUSULvciaglia: Updated and fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the  system with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'. To make sure that your mirror has the new version do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'apt-cache policy  xserver-xorg-core' and check that the candidate is 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:27
mopfliteeyequeue: pretty much every isp provided basic web hosting option in the uk does not provide shell access, and never has05:27
eyequeuemopflite, to each their own of course, but "teaching" bad practices seems unwise05:27
Ash-Foxvciaglia, yes., 10.3 doesn't.05:27
thoreauputicStephenL: last ditch method is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ( but don't do that unless you have to)05:27
jayteeJohn[1] , yeah.. i suffered through a long fix session last night too05:27
eyequeuemopflite, whereas my isp provides shell even for dialup05:27
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eyequeuemopflite, granted, it's an aix shell, lol05:28
vciagliaerUSUL, thank you very much. I'm going to check05:28
mopfliteeyequeue: in the uk at least, 90% or so of those who have web space of any kind *do not* have shell access, so usage of an ftp client is mandatory - that does not fit my personal definition of "bad practices"05:28
John[1] Right now I'm trying to install just the desktop ver. and I'm getting stuck at the partion section to install to harddrive.05:28
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eyequeuemopflite, using an insecure protocol?  i'd call that bad personally  it's like using ssh version1, imo05:28
InferusJohn[1]  whats up, error messages by any chance?05:29
StephenLWorking now.  Thanks.05:29
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eyequeuemopflite, plaintext transmission of passwords == bad, to me05:29
John[1] It is stuck on select a disk right now with nothing else showing, no drives or anyhting.05:29
AHillsbemy system will not detect  wireless card, but the ethernet card works- ibm thinkpad 390x05:29
erUSULvciaglia: no problem05:29
Inferusthe disk part of the installer is wrecked John[1] 05:29
Inferusmine wouldnt work at home05:29
MezSeveas, ping05:29
Ash-FoxAHillsbe, lspci really doesn't detect it?05:29
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tom_damn, missed a message for me, are there any logs online?05:30
John[1] Other than the desktop live cd.05:30
esculapiushu05:30
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InferusI personally recommend installing ubuntu-server and then apt-get'ing ubuntu-desktop05:30
Meztom_ http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/05:30
Inferusi've not had any problems with the ubuntu-server install05:30
ardchoille!xorgbugfix05:30
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.05:30
AHillsbehold on05:30
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Mez!logs > tom_05:30
AHillsbebrb05:30
esculapiuscould anyone explain why k3b give this output05:30
John[1] Infeerus, I went that route also and was getting errors when I did the aft-get update.05:30
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esculapiushttp://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=18005:31
Inferuswhat error?05:31
ardchoilleOh, it's fixed? Cool. Now I can install the other machine :)05:31
Inferusapt-get update @_@05:31
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John[1] The server installs with no problem, it's trying to get the desktop that is killing me.05:31
Inferusyea05:31
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:31
Inferusjust do05:31
Inferussudo apt-get install ubuntu-server05:32
Inferus=] 05:32
orbinardchoille: what was the bug?05:32
Inferussorry05:32
Inferussudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:32
eyequeueorbin, /topic05:32
esculapiusanyone05:32
esculapiushttp://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=18005:32
orbineyequeue: ah :)05:32
ardchoilleorbin: the broken package kept X from running05:32
SKossuQuestion: Tried installing the new ubuntu on the comp, but didn't even get to the part where to choose partition. It got stuck after booting up the linux kernel and going trough the startup phase, It reported no errors or anything, simply stopped loading on a black screen. Am I screwing something up?05:32
orbinwell i jsut upgraded to 10.3 ... i guess that's the broken one...05:32
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eyequeueorbin, right ,go to 10.4 before allowing reboot05:33
orbinthanks for the tip05:33
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OoberMickesculapius: try google, this was the first link  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=796405:33
jayteeat least i know how to recover05:34
John[1] Okay, I'm going to reinstall the server and try it again with the fixes they suggested.05:34
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alekhi05:34
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gravesoni am trying to determine the format of a file ie i have an mp4 file container and need to know what version of divx this is05:34
John[1] here goes05:35
eyequeuegraveson, /usr/bin/file05:35
jayteemy /lib/modules was also screwed up earlier.05:35
aleki have some PC (ubuntu) with shared folder in smbfs and my PC also with ubuntu where I want to get the acces to that shared folder. I use smbmount with option "rw", but i cant write to that folder05:35
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jayteebut i had a -386 version to fall back on05:35
eyequeuealek, which fs?05:36
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alekin smb.conf there is written that thsi folder should be writable05:36
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alekeyequeue, shared folder is in ext305:36
ardchoille!restricted > ardchoille05:36
ProN00buh, i have heard the horror storry that upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core fucks your box, is that true ?05:36
jayteeyay!  it's working again at 10.405:36
Ash-FoxProN00b, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:36
eyequeuealek, ext3 writes are safe, but that smb seems for ms ppl05:36
ardchoilleProN00b: it's been fixed, so it's safe now05:37
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eyequeuealek, hence i asked05:37
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YeTr2whats wrong with smb?05:37
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AHillsbe0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card05:37
AHillsbeyes it does05:37
eyequeueYeTr2, nix ppl tend to use nfs, which is native in the kernel05:37
Ash-FoxAHillsbe, it is detected, don't lie.05:37
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ProN00bAsh-Fox, so if i get a E: Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 for xserver-xorg-core was not found my mirror isn't up to date ?05:37
YeTr2eyequeue: I find smb easier05:38
alekeyequeue, what means ms ppl?05:38
GoshawkProN00b: apt-get update05:38
Ash-FoxProN00b, 10.3 is the 'bad' version.05:38
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eyequeuealek, people who use microsoft products05:38
wweaselHey. I was prompted by Update Manager to update something about xserver yesterday, and today when I restart it tells me "Failed to start the X server"05:38
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nikingood morning05:38
wweaselAnd I think you're talking about this with ProN00b :P05:38
ProN00bGoshawk, did that05:38
jikanterwweasel, me too05:38
eyequeueYeTr2, i've never seen a reason, i always used nfs05:38
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jikanterit happened to me today05:38
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alekeyequeue, xD05:39
phreakyshi05:39
yin_yang2kWhat a great channel. I got help without asking anything, just rebooted my kubuntu and X is working :D05:39
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wweaseljikanter: what did you do?05:39
ProN00bAsh-Fox, uhm, could you gimme your mirror url seems mine isn't up to date?05:39
basvghi all... after today's update (Dapper) the screenlock doesn't seem to work anymore (`lock screen' button) ,... does anyone know how to fix that?05:39
phreakysanyone knows where to get the gimpshop ubuntu version?05:39
eyequeueYeTr2, to me it seemed simple enough, reading howtos, back then05:39
wweaseljikanter: to fix it that is.05:39
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Ash-FoxProN00b, mine's only accessible on my lan, sorry.05:39
jikanterI haven't fixed it yet05:39
ProN00bardchoille, damn you i almost updated !05:39
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fuci_What codecs do I need to install to run .mkv files with VLC?05:39
eyequeueProN00b, propagation takes time, be patient05:39
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Gibbsterhi guys. Do you know what package I should use to get bonobo+python?05:39
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AHillsbemy wireless card is detected, 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card----  how do i configure it?05:40
ardchoilleProN00b: Sorry about that.05:40
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JetDoghey05:40
nikinAHillsbe: ther is a network config utility in ubuntu05:40
JetDogneed some nfo05:40
Gibbsteris it gnome-orbit?05:40
ProN00bardchoille, can you give me your update mirror url ?05:40
AHillsbeis it the same as xubuntu05:40
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YeTr2AHillsbe: is it listed in 'iwconfig' ?05:41
jturekexit05:41
ardchoilleProN00b: I only use the repos that shipped with Ubuntu, I never add anything else.05:41
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JetDogI'm looking for a good stron distro that can work IN vmware and OUTSIDE of vmware from bios, both of these can be accomplished form the SAME installation.  Mandrake cant do it, redhat LOVES to wine, suse I dunno WTF is going on there... heh, can ubuntu handle this?05:41
ProN00bardchoille, still, i think it selects a mirror when you install it, can you give me yours ?05:41
aleki mounted samba shared foler with "rw" option but it has chmod 755 so I cant write in it. how to fix it?05:41
kadsI cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz05:41
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ProN00bardchoille, its just one line out of your sources.list05:42
Ash-FoxJetDog, in my expirence, they can all handle it just fine.05:42
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nikinalek: there is a defoult chmod setting in the smb.conf05:42
JetDogwow alright.  Im for suse then.  It look pretty :)05:42
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ardchoilleProN00b: hold on..05:42
wweaselGuys, me and jikanter here are having the same problem after updating our xservers yesterday. A blue screen with error messages. We can't be the only ones. Help?05:42
JetDogthx ash.  I'll give it another shot05:42
AHillsbelo        no wireless extensions.05:42
AHillsbeirda0     no wireless extensions.05:42
AHillsbesit0      no wireless extensions.05:42
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ardchoilleProN00b: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse restricted universe05:43
nikinAhill: the you are lacking the driver i think05:43
GoshawkProN00b: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:43
GoshawkProN00b: try that05:43
AHillsbeeth0 is not listed05:43
Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.05:43
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SKossuScreen goes black after going trough the phase of loading into ubuntu so that I can install, Anyone know what is wrong?05:44
frogzoo!xorgbug05:44
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')05:44
IdleOneSKossu, bad CD05:44
ProN00bGoshawk, i did, my mirror doesn't have that version yet05:44
kadsI cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons05:44
SKossuIdelone: Tested the CD, ubuntu said it was fine05:44
eyequeueardchoille, it would be dapper-updates, not dapper though05:44
AHillsbewhere can i get a driver?05:44
Ash-FoxProN00b, then read my instructions to downgrade.05:44
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dojohey whats the diffrence between05:45
dojoubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso05:45
dojoand05:45
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GoshawkProN00b: "add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list05:45
dojoubuntu-6.06.1-i386.iso05:45
SKossuIdleOne: im using double screens, can that be a problem?05:45
ardchoilleeyequeue: ahh, good catch05:45
Goshawks/"add/add"05:45
Ash-Foxalternate is a text based install, usually used for servers, you want the last iso you posted.05:45
ardchoilledeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main multiverse restricted universe05:45
sharperguy!alternate > dojo05:45
GNAMbest solution is dvd05:46
IdleOneSKossu, could be but I wouldnt know05:46
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dojoi see aternative then because the ifrst time i downloaded the other one05:46
dojois it new?05:46
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GoshawkProN00b: also this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:46
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ProN00bGoshawk, good idea, but i just changed all ocurrences of au.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in my sources list05:46
zerbycan someone tell me what the name of the livecd is, the isoname05:47
AHillsbehow can i get a driver to run 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card05:47
fredlHmm, I had the X problem... just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and got another xserver-xorg *ponder*05:47
jbroome/topic05:47
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kadsI cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons05:47
ali1234so, the clock on my laptop died, and resets to 1978 on every reboot. will this affect the dapper install i'm currently running? i see warnings on the log...05:47
Ash-Foxfredl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:47
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fredlyeah I saw the topic jbroome05:47
GoshawkProN00b: perfect, now do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:47
lupinetopic05:47
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fredlthat's why I dist-upgraded, apparently a new package is already there.05:48
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ProN00bGoshawk, yeah, i know that ~_^, i just needed a better mirror05:48
dojois it possiable to get ubuntu to run i text-mode05:48
AHillsbei have ndiswrapper already05:48
Flanneldojo: sure, what you looking to do?05:48
josh__what will this command do if run as root : locate apache2|rm *05:48
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josh__remove all the apache2 files found?05:48
dojoyeah i just want to experiament05:48
josh__or remove all files on the system?05:48
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Flanneldojo: You want to install in textmode? or not have a GUI installed?05:49
John[1] Now the install is haninging on my dapper server install.05:49
dojono05:49
dojoi want to install in gui05:49
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josh__hello?05:49
ProN00bAsh-Fox, don't tell them to wait >.> tell them to get a better mirror05:49
dojoi want a gui installed so in text mode i can type GNOME and it will come up05:49
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dojobut i wont it to start up in text mode05:49
Goshawkjosh__: locate will show any file that as the "pattern" in his name, rm removes them05:49
orbinjosh__: all files in dir05:49
AHillsbeis anyone familiar with xubuntu?05:49
orbin...i think05:49
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ali1234dojo: remove xdm/kdm/gdm from the default runlevel05:50
neelshi, you guys talking about the crashing X server after the last update?05:50
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Goshawkjosh__: i'm not sure about the *05:50
josh__so if i do locate apache2|rm * it will remove all the apache2 files/folders it finds?05:50
Flanneldojo: well, you don't need to install via the gui for that, but yeah, you'll need to install, and then once its installed, you'll just... yeah, what ali1234 said05:50
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Goshawkmaybe orbin is right05:50
Goshawk:D05:50
Ash-FoxProN00b, get a better mirror05:50
IvanowitchAHillsbe, a bit... :S.. why?05:50
John[1] Well it made it to the partition screen and now I'm at a blue screen.05:50
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Ash-Fox(note that archive.ubuntu.com is not exactly a mirror)05:51
Goshawkjosh__: i don't know if you have to put that * or not05:51
orbinjosh__: well i don't think you can pipe stdout to rm....05:51
dojoso if i do what brother ali said i can boot up in text mode05:51
dfgashow do i get xmms to load with mp3s when i click on them instead of the default program?05:51
ProN00bAsh-Fox, i know, its the main thin05:51
dojoand type gnome when i log in05:51
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rc55Odd question, but why does the ubuntu installer run a bittorrent tracker?05:51
skipfI updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device wehn it tries to start.05:51
orbindfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with properties05:51
ali1234dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's start-kde05:51
Ash-Foxskipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.05:51
Goshawkjosh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (05:51
ProN00brc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^05:51
AHillsbethe networking utility in xubuntu will not detect my lynksys 802b pc card i have ndiswrapper do i need a different driver?05:52
skipf> I updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device05:52
skipf+wehn it tries to start.05:52
skipf<orbin> dfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with05:52
skipf+properties05:52
skipf<ali1234> dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's05:52
skipf+start-kde05:52
dojook thx ali05:52
skipf*** Signoff: zerby ("Ik ga weg")05:52
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skipf<Ash-Fox> skipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install05:52
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skipf+xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version05:52
skipf+(provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install05:52
skipf+xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.05:52
skipf<Goshawk> josh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (05:52
skipf<ProN00b> rc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^05:52
ProN00bnah, joking, rc55 dunno why, i think it would only run one if there was one installed05:52
skipfthank you!05:52
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orbinskipf: don't paste in here05:52
kadsI cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons05:52
ProN00bskipf ?05:52
typhoidhi!  i made a major disaster..  ubuntu(dapper) -- i got a notification that there was an update to xserver.. i updated and now it can't find tty7, and won't run xwindows!  i don't know what to do to get xwindows running again!  can any of you help me?05:53
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ProN00btyphoid, update again05:53
fdovingtyphoid: make another upgrade, it's fixed.05:53
skipfhello ProN00b05:53
rc55I noticed as I was restarting, it closed down a tracker05:53
Goshawktyphoid: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:53
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typhoidfdoving, Goshawk -- thank you!05:53
dojostarnge is ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso surpost to be 25MB05:53
ircleuserI wonder how many people have been having the X graphics problem?05:53
Ash-Foxtyphoid, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade05:53
ProN00brc55, i am getting that too, its only for the case if you had one running05:54
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Goshawkdojo: no05:54
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Goshawkdojo: it's about 700mb05:54
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fuci_How in the world can I choose subtitles for my  .mkv ending anime-movies? Thank you ^__^05:54
dojoill re download it05:54
dojoin my downl0oad manager05:54
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linux__alieni am unable to play mpg files in Movie Player. Whats the package that i need to install05:54
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fdovingAsh-Fox: that's the old fix, the new fix is to update again.05:54
AHillsbecan anyone help me with xubuntu wireless05:54
lcddfuci_: mplayer has the -slang and -sid options05:55
warlockif i make a bash script, was the command ot make it executeable "chmod +x mybash.sh" ?05:55
POVaddctAHillsbe: i think you need the (ugly) wlan-ng driver for that card05:55
Ash-Foxfdoving, I gave two ways to fix it, either update or downgrade, what's wrong with what I said?05:55
POVaddctAHillsbe: what is the pci id of that card?05:55
fredlHmm, I was too eager to try and fix my Xwindows problem I think... now my server is running but it's not using DRI since it for some reason can't load kernel module fglrx05:55
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dojoi think theres a channel called #xubuntu maybe they know05:55
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IvanowitchAHillsbe, you can try the wext driver... it is a generic driver...05:55
orbin!restricted > linux__alien05:55
AHillsbehow do i get that?05:55
orbinlinux__alien: ubotu sent you a pm05:55
POVaddctAHillsbe: lspci -n05:55
Goshawklinux__alien: look gor gstreamer0.10 packages05:55
fuci_lcdd: so I cd to my folder (where the movie is) and open it with mplayer "filename" -slang ?05:55
fredlalthough I do have the linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed....05:56
bugnthecodeI installed kubuntu-desktop a few weeks ago so I could try kde. Now I want to remove all of kde from my system and I have. My only problem is that the bootup screen still says kubuntu. Though the shutdown screen says ubuntu. How can I change the bootup screen to say ubuntu like it did when freshly installed?05:56
fdovingAsh-Fox: downgrading will leave the user exposed to a security vuln.05:56
Goshawk!restricted > Goshawk05:56
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AHillsbe0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card05:56
lcddfuci_: 'mplayer -slang en,eng filename' will probably work. if it's english you want05:56
Ash-Foxfdoving, having a non-working system is worse than vulnerable for most desktop users.05:56
lcddfuci_: just running 'mplayer filename' will tell what kind of subtitle tracks there are05:56
POVaddctAHillsbe: lspci -n   <-- do not forget the -n05:56
dojois edgy a new ubuntu?05:56
fdovingAsh-Fox: that's why we tell users to -update- again.05:56
dojoversion05:56
orbinfredl: how'd you install the fglrx driver?05:56
AHillsbebrb05:56
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fuci_lcdd: ok05:57
eyequeue!edgy05:57
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Ash-Foxfdoving, which I do too, the problem?05:57
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dojoso cuold i download that know05:57
dojokk05:57
dojoi see05:57
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eyequeuefdoving, Ash-Fox, actually, 10.4 LEAVES the security vuln in place :(05:57
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Ash-Foxeyequeue, haha, that sucks05:58
AHillsbe0000:00:03.0 0607: 104c:ac1f05:58
AHillsbe0000:00:03.1 0607: 104c:ac1f05:58
Goshawkbugnthecode: it seems that the initramfs image is not updated.. do you have ubuntu-desktop in your system?05:58
AHillsbe0000:00:06.0 0780: 11c1:0449 (rev 01)05:58
willvdlanyone got tips on getting sound to work? [snd_hda_intel loaded] 05:58
AHillsbe0000:00:07.0 0401: 125d:1969 (rev 02)05:58
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fdoving!ops05:58
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!05:58
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Ash-FoxCould someone please kick AHillsbe05:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:58
fuci_lcdd: What codecs do I need for MPlayer to play .mkv files? I can play it with totem tho.05:58
davorbhey guys. can you tell me one application that i can use to show a popup and get a password from the user, from the shell?05:58
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naliothAHillsbe: please don't paste in here05:58
bugnthecodeGoshawk yep, that was how I got my gnome back apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:58
fdovingAsh-Fox: eyequeue haha, ok, then i'm sorry for bothering you :)05:58
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eyequeuefdoving, heh, you got me thinking05:58
Goshawkbugnthecode: do this: sudo update-initramfs -u05:59
POVaddctAHillsbe: the line starting with 0000:02:00.0 0200: would have been enough05:59
Goshawkusplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image05:59
StephenLwhat are the proper repositories to use for compiz?05:59
zoweycan anybody past me default groups that ubuntu gives to regular user?05:59
josh__nalioth: u should know the answerto this, what will "locate apache2|rm *" do?05:59
orbindavorb: simple gksudo gedit should do it i think05:59
Goshawkbugnthecode: usplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image05:59
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StephenLWhen I try to install I keep getting an error that gset-compiz isn't available.05:59
AHillsbesorry05:59
naliothjosh__: probably nothing05:59
FlannelStephenL: #ubuntu-xgl05:59
StephenLthanks05:59
davorborbin: no, i want my shellscript to get a password. i dont want to get root for the app.06:00
bugnthecodeGoshawk: so that just updates the initram to the correct image?06:00
Goshawkbugnthecode: probably06:00
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josh__....how do i delete all the apache2 files that were left on the computer are i did a apt-get remove apache206:00
josh__?06:00
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davorborbin: it just needs to be some popup that allows me to enter information, in X06:00
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bugnthecodeGoshawk: thanks for your help, I'll give it a reboot!06:00
Flanneljosh__: do apt-get remove apache2 --purge06:00
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POVaddctAHillsbe: fuck that card. i won't run: http://www.leenooks.com/Linksys+WMP11+(rev.+4)+(InProcomm+IPN2120)06:00
josh__well i suppose i could just freenx to my comp and use the synaptic...06:00
josh__ok lemme try that06:01
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magus_xis there any front-end for the command to mount isos?06:01
Flanneljosh__: er, apt-get --purge remove apache2 even06:01
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nikinis there a lightweight desktop package for servers like ubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop, but lighter06:01
trappistjosh__: apt-get remove --purge06:01
orbindavorb: ah, ok...out of my knowledge sorry.06:01
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POVaddctAHillsbe: maybe it runs with ndiswrapper, but i don't know for sure06:01
josh__nope06:01
OoberMickjosh__: for --purge to work you need to reinstall06:01
Flannelnikin: xubuntu would be the one, there are a few other WMs for you to try in universe though06:01
josh__it says its not installed06:01
AHillsbei have ndiswrapper installed06:01
Goshawkjosh__: apt-get --purge remvoe apache206:01
ali1234nikin: xubuntu06:01
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josh__well i did a apt-get remove apache2;apt-get clean apache206:01
Goshawkjosh__: --purge remove06:02
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josh__but it left alot of docs and icons06:02
POVaddctAHillsbe: for using ndiswrapper you also need windows drivers for that card06:02
POVaddctAHillsbe: ndiswrapper is a driver-loader06:02
Goshawkjosh__: apt-get clean cleans the cache06:02
kadsi need help with xgl and compiz06:02
nikinFlannel: like JWM or ION? .... so first i install the xubuntu-desktop then install an other window managger06:02
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nikinok06:02
josh__screw it ill just go delete the /usr/share/apache2 folder...06:02
orbinmagus_x: don't think so06:02
OoberMickjosh__: apt-get install apache2 && apt-get --purge remove apache206:02
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magus_xorbin, : please give-me the command at least, i forgot06:03
linux__alienI ve installed 64 Bit version of Ubuntu but for Java and Flash plugins what do i do06:03
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SanketMedhilinux__alien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:04
Flannelnikin: no, you can install ubuntu without a WM to begin with, you'd have to check the repositories to find out exactly what's available.  but yeah, stuff like that06:04
josh__crap! thats where the file was!?!06:04
josh__dang it06:04
kadsi need help with xgl and compiz06:04
kadsI cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons06:04
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Goshawkkads: #ubuntu-xgl06:04
AHillsbethanks for the link06:04
JDahlhow do I enable my wireless netcard from a console?  iwconfig shows the correct device, connected to correct router. But it hasn't been assigned an IP address yet06:04
josh__apache2ctl is in /usr/sbin....for future reference everyone.... :(06:05
ircleuserAre there any other updates for Ubuntu besides those shown in the Update Manager?06:05
nikinJDahl: man iwconfig06:05
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richiefrichircleuser sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distro-update06:05
ali1234JDahl: sudo dhclient wlan006:05
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ircleuserRichiefric: Thanks.06:06
richiefrichnp06:06
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Flannelircleuser: nope, that should be all of them06:06
HeathenDanhow do i stop nautilus from opening a new window when i insert a cd?06:06
magus_xwhat is the command to mount iso?06:06
JDahlali1234: you're a lifesafer! thanks06:06
Chousukemount -o loop iso.image /mount/path06:06
ali1234HeathenDan: system->preferences->removable drives and media06:06
ircleuserRichiefric: What do those commands give you that the update manager doesn't?06:06
willvdlgot intel 945 chipset on laptop, but no sound. any clues?06:07
ChousukeYou may have to specify a filesystem too06:07
richiefrichmagus_x  mount -t iso9660 -o loop  foo.iso  /mnt/iso06:07
Phoulhey uhh when might x be stable to update06:07
Phoullol06:07
ali1234HeathenDan: uncheck "browse removable media when inserted"06:07
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Goshawkircleuser: they are the same, but from command line...06:07
HeathenDanok06:07
FlannelPhoul: fix is in most repositories now06:07
ircleuserGoshawk: Oh. I see.06:07
Phoulk i will wait till tomorrow just for safety06:08
Ash-FoxPhoul, when you see 10.4 in your repository.06:08
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PhoulAsh-Fox, how do you check the version?06:08
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Ash-FoxI just click details in 'adept' on the package.06:09
Stevkodo new versions of software get to repository (e.g.: VLC 0.8.5, OpenOffice 2.0.3)?06:09
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Ash-Foxyou can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to it if you want (provided your mirror has it).06:09
GoshawkPhoul: apt-cache show06:10
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GoshawkPhoul: add package-name06:10
PhoulVersion: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.306:10
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GoshawkPhoul: it's the bugged version06:11
UncleOp22On a lighter note: would someone have a pointer to a howto or cookbook for "upgrading" to Ubuntu from RH9?  The wiki and help I've seen so far simply point out the differences between apt and rpm, but don't suggest how best to keep custom settings.  (MigrationAssistance on the wiki is promising, but this is a linux->linux migration...)  I'm downloading the Desktop CD ISO right now...06:11
Phoulk i will wiat then :p06:11
magus_xwhat is the command to mount iso?06:11
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ali1234UncleOp22: just back up /home06:12
Dr_WillisUncleOp22,  backup your /home is about all you can do.  and /etc/ i guess.. but then ya got to  compare the configs for differances.. since there may be differetn versions, and even different locations for the different programs/configs06:12
ali1234UncleOp22: and maybe some stuff from /etc if you really need to06:12
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Dr_WillisIve had some bad issues with gnome/kde when keeping /home06:13
magus_xDr_Willis, : like?06:13
Goshawkmagus_x: mount -o loop /path/file.iso /mnt/mountpoint/06:13
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pvaras i can donwnload u lite06:13
magus_xthanks, i will write it06:13
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UncleOp22s'ok - that's what I figured would be the case (/home and /etc).  My KDE is as old as the hills, too.06:14
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pvarashello06:14
Goshawkmagus_x: change /mnt/mountpoint with whatever you want (also a dir under your $HOME)06:14
pvarasalgun hispamo06:14
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ketsugiHow do I specify a non-default gcc version when using ./configure?06:14
ketsugiwhat's the proper syntax?06:14
Goshawkpvaras: hello06:14
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pvarashello06:14
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Dr_Willismagus_x,  like KDE and GNOME not starting due to their configs being messed up.06:15
ali1234ketsugi: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure06:15
ircleuserx06:15
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Goshawkketsugi: the argument should be CC=gcc-version, but let me investigate06:15
ali1234ketsugi: unless you are cross compiling, that's a whole different story06:15
ketsugiwithout quotation marks?06:15
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Goshawkketsugi: ah follow ali123406:15
ali1234ketsugi: yes, without06:15
utabhelp needed for mounting network drives06:15
UncleOp22thanks Dr_Willis and ali123406:15
PPowerHi all, I am using vncserver4, but sudo doesnt seem to work. I enter the password, but nothing happens06:16
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GoshawkPPower: xterm under vncserver4?06:16
PPoweryes, with twm06:16
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PPowersu -c no worky too06:16
orbinketsugi: are you installing something?06:16
ali1234utab: what kind of network drives? smb (windows)?06:16
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utabali1234: smb06:17
PPowerGoshawk: Hmm, dont I remember you, (i am sometimes known as lsproc)06:17
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GoshawkPPower: yep i rememver that name06:17
ketsugiorbin: trying to compile KMobileTools06:17
PPowerHey!06:17
GoshawkPPower: this should be not a vnc issue06:17
utabali1234: I have tried http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read but no use06:17
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PPowerok06:17
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dsch04eyequeue: Thanks.06:18
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GoshawkPPower: because vnc just sends images of the screen06:18
PPowerGoshawk: It works when not in VNC though06:18
bj_Hello, I installed a new mobo / cpu and am having some stability problems. Most stuff seems OK, but coming back from a screensaver will sometimes lock up the box. Is there a command I should run to reset ubuntu for the new board06:18
PPowerone mo actually06:18
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ali1234utab: get an error message?06:18
utabali1234: yes06:18
Dr_WillisPPower,  enter the password where/how in vnc?06:18
orbinketsugi: something wrong w/ the repos version?06:18
utabali1234: put them in the pastebin06:18
PPowerPPower: su -c mount command, in xterm06:19
PPowerwhy did I message myself?06:19
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GoshawkPPower: you said that if you log in (not in vnc) you can do it, isn't it?06:19
crparrHi! I'm using kubuntu 6.06 on an amd64 machine. This morning Adept had one update for me. xorg. I did the upgrade. This evening I started my PC and XOrg did not Start. The first error were GL errors.06:19
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dapetAnyone know some good java doc's?06:19
orbinbj_: possible video issue?  are you using the same video card?06:20
utabcrparr : take a look at unbuntuforums.org06:20
Dr_Williswe need to keep track of everyone asking that. :P and how many times we say 'its answered in the topic' :)06:20
Goshawkcrparr:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.406:20
ProN00bcrparr, update&&upgrade again06:20
synicdapet: for what?06:20
PPowerPPower: In normal usage, it works fine. In VNC it doesnt. It might be the user account06:20
Ash-Foxcrparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:20
orbindapet: perhaps you should ask in the java channel06:20
bj_orbin: yeah same vid card, ram , and psu06:20
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ketsugiorbin: yeah, I'm compiling the svn version and it's crashing for an unknown reason. the kmobiletools dev asked me to try gcc 3.406:20
crparrAfter commrnting out the lines in my xorg conf, I discovered another error. Xorg does not detect my graphics card. It is a Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT from Leadtek.06:20
utabali1234: have you done that before06:20
dapet<orbin> what are there name, and how do join them?06:20
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crparrWhat do I have to do to make it work?06:20
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ProN00bcrparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:21
Ash-Foxcrparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:21
fredlanybody know how this may happen: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" (I have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed, but I have had the 8.27 driver installed using the procedure on the ATI Wiki, so maybe something was left behind when I went back to 8.25 ?)06:21
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ali1234utab: i'm confused. where's your paste? have i done what before?06:21
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PPowerGoshawk: Ah, user account is the prob. ill check the sudoers file06:21
jorggis it possible to change spell check language in gaim?06:21
utabali1234: have you mounted network drives before06:21
orbindapet: /j #java should work06:21
GoshawkPPower: if the user is the problem it should not work even if you are logged without vnc06:21
ali1234utab: yeah loads of times06:21
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ali1234utab: you need a few none-obvious packages to make it work...06:22
dapet /j #java06:22
utabali1234 : I have not pasted but will paste shortly06:22
PPowerGoshawk: Yeah, ill edit the sudoers06:22
fredlis there a way to verify a .deb to see if the original contents are still installed?06:22
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dapet<orbin> where do I write it?06:22
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jorgghow can i check if my system support UTF8?06:22
ircleuserWhat does the Synaptic Package Manager do?06:22
orbindapet: in a channel/server window06:22
GoshawkPPower: now i remember, you posted many times on nanofreesoft, isn't it?06:22
fredlircleuser - it manages your packages.06:23
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orbin!synaptic > ircleuser06:23
ProN00bi wonder who screwed that thing with the xserver up, and why it didn't get detected06:23
GoshawkPPower: and lsproc was your name06:23
PPowerYes, i built upower for you06:23
crparrthanks06:23
TokenBadI heard bad things abou the new xserver-org-core...that it is messing things up...should I update?06:23
GoshawkPPower: yes :d06:23
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Goshawk:D06:23
dapetorbin> it is not the right name06:23
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Ash-FoxProN00b, Fabio M. Di Nitto06:23
jorggis there other callenders than evolution hsupporting the clock in X?06:23
ProN00blol, Ash-Fox ^^06:24
lamegoTokenBad, you should not06:24
GoshawkTokenBad: now the bugged version is fixed, install the ubuntu10.4 version06:24
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dapetWhat are the java channel named?06:24
utabali1234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2140906:24
Ash-Fox##java06:24
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PPowerw000t! ITS FIXED!06:24
TokenBadGoshawk, how do I tell which one is right?06:24
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utabali1234: there are the errors and fstab06:24
ProN00bTokenBad, to make sure you get the right version you can do apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.406:24
GoshawkTokenBad:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.406:24
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crparrthanks06:24
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hadihow can I change to text screen06:25
hadi?06:25
lamegoGoshawk, you you need to specify the version, isn't the last version installed automatically ?06:25
fredlhadi - ctrl-alt-F106:25
hadithx06:25
utabCRTL+ALT+F106:25
anett6454ez itt mire j?06:25
Goshawklamego: sure, but the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository06:25
ProN00blamego, actually the newest version (that version) is installed automatically, but sometimes patch mirrors aren't up to date06:25
fredlI think Ubuntu 6 is kinda stressing the support channel :P06:26
Goshawklamego: in that way, you force the lastest fixed one06:26
PPowerBye! Thanks for your help all!06:26
ProN00bGoshawk, stop telling half-truths06:26
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lamegoGonzo, you mean, i may not have the latest one :)06:26
ali1234utab: make sure you have samba, samba-common and smbfs installed06:26
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lamegook, understood :)06:26
fredlso does anybody get paid on here to answer questions?06:26
GoshawkProN00b: ?06:26
Ash-Foxfredl, no.06:26
orbinfredl: we wish06:26
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GoshawkProN00b: do you mean phrases in mutiple lines?06:26
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fredlwell some people should get paid, I often see the same people answering questions.06:27
ProN00b"the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository" => "the latest version in your repository could be still bugged"06:27
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buntu418how to use the midi keyboard in prodikeys creative midi keyboard06:27
alex_cool. broken x11 in the stable distro06:27
Ash-Foxalex_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:27
fredlI mean, how come the CD's are free? who's paying for that?06:27
utabali1234: they are all here06:27
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ElephantI noticed a package for older versions of Ubuntu that adds web-admin functionality to a box06:28
alex_Ash-Fox: yeah i figured that out myself06:28
Ash-Foxfredl, people are paying it from their pockets, donating money.06:28
ali1234utab: so can you mount those shares from the command line?06:28
Elephantbut I can't find the correponding package in Dapper06:28
Dr_Willisfredl,  a Millionare Sponser :P06:28
ElephantDoes anyone know what the deal is with that?06:28
GoshawkProN00b: they say the same things for me...06:28
fredlDr_Willis, I heard something about that, could he not also pay some people to sit here on IRC ?06:28
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utabali1234: by the usual mount06:29
dapetWhat are the java channel named?06:29
synicdapet: ##java.... but what is your question?06:29
orbinElephant: what package?06:29
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orbinsynic: i think he summed it up06:29
ProN00bGoshawk, they actually mean the same, but the first sentence (your sentence) could mean something else too (not to mention the two typos)06:29
Dr_Willisfredl,  theres is a rather detailed and well done web site/forums that have 99% of the answers to 99% of all the questions asked here.. :P06:29
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fredlDr_Willis, where? not ubuntu.org right?06:30
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dapet<synic> I want to find some documentation, so can learn the language and have a register of all the "cammand words"06:30
fredlehr ubuntu.com06:30
SilverMonkhey there i have just installed Ubuntu and I am having a few issues...06:30
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fredlSilverMonk - like?06:30
kitsuneofdoomI think someone should either tinyurl the topic (someone using a terminal is going to be annoyed typing out all this stuff) or putting the sudo commands in the topic06:31
typhoidthanks for getting  my xserver running again =)06:31
SilverMonkwell for one why can i only use 1024x768 resolution?06:31
SilverMonki know my screen is capable of better06:31
synicdapet: honestly, the docs at java.sun.com are the best.06:31
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Ash-FoxI don't like tinyurls06:31
Goshawki agree with kitsuneofdoom06:31
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Ash-FoxThe domain doesn't resolve for me, ever.06:31
utabali1234: I used sudo mount //filesrv/pool ~/documents/MECH_POOL -t smbfs -o username=utabak,password=Utab1905 -o gid=users,dmask=777,fmask=777,rw06:31
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utabali1234: and the result again the same error06:31
fredlSilverMonk, nope, usually you can do better resolutions than that. Does your monitor support DPMS or is it a real old one?06:31
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ircleuserAre there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?06:32
SilverMonkits a laptop one lol06:32
buntu418how to use a midi keyboard.. whch music program will allow me to intact with tht.. plssssssssssssssssssss help06:32
SilverMonkthats all i really know06:32
easytigerany fallout from the xorg update?06:32
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dapet<synic> okay... but are there a helpfull "java how to"? I were not able to find, but maybi I am blind ;)06:32
kingrayrayis xserver-xorg-core fixed yet?06:32
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kingrayray(is it safe to update)06:32
fredlkingrayray, yes I believe so.06:32
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ProN00bSilverMonk, how you know it can do better resolutions ?06:32
orbinSilverMonk: common issue unfortunately: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:32
kingrayraycan you shoot me the wget/dpkg line to fix it just incase? :P06:32
Goshawkkingrayray: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.406:32
SilverMonkfor one its widescreen06:32
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synicdapet: first things first.  Do you have the jdk installed?06:32
PPowerBack again, how do you change the message that appears after you log in (e.g. the bit with the (c))06:32
Ash-Foxkingrayray, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:32
ali1234utab: wha does dmesg say?06:32
GoshawkPPower: is the problem solved?06:33
kingrayrayokay06:33
PPoweryeah06:33
PPowerit was the sudoers file06:33
kingrayraythanks uh.. all you neat people who told me what to do =)06:33
Dr_Willisfredl,  the ubuntu wiki is also a very good guide.  I need to spend more time exploring it all.06:33
SilverMonkok i've got this link...i'll try this06:33
SilverMonkhopefully it will work :)06:33
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synicdapet: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html06:33
SilverMonkcuz 1024x768 sucks lol06:33
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Goshawk!help > Goshawk06:34
dapetsynic> I have everything installed, even Eclipse ;)06:34
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hadihow can I change computer name after [at]  in terminal?06:34
utabali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2141206:34
PPowerGoshawk: How do I change the message that appears after console login06:34
dapetsynic> I have worked with Java a half year ago, but stopped and now I want to start againg.. So I need som doc's ;)06:34
Goshawkcan someone add this to ubotu? "you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade"06:34
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orbin!hostname > hadi06:34
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ali1234utab: try changing the fs type from smbfs to cifs06:34
synicdapet: that url I gave you should work.06:34
ircleuserAre there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?06:34
GoshawkPPower: i don't knwo let me investigate06:34
PPowerok06:34
hadiyes06:34
PPoweri need to package up some files06:35
rhyddinhey all06:35
PPowerhey06:35
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ProN00bircleuser, lol06:35
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utabali1234 : the same06:35
KrakensDenircleuser, no, it's all boring06:35
ircleuserProN00b: Lol. I'm new, and I want to see the cool stuff :-D06:35
eugmanHey, I blindly updated just now and then saw Digg shouting "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!". Is xserver still broken or were they updates harmless at this point?06:35
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KrakensDenthey've gotten fixed06:35
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KrakensDenfinally06:35
orbinGoshawk: well, there's already the xorgbugfix factoid06:35
albackerguys can someone help me ? the page with w32codecs.deb seems to be down ?! where can i find it else ?!06:36
lamegoeugman, update using the command from Goshawk , that will check for the proper update06:36
ProN00bircleuser, you could for example hack some windows computers while looking at your completely 3d desktop ^^06:36
dapet<synic> thx you are the hero of the day :D06:36
orbinhadi: ubotu sent you a pm06:36
Goshawk!xorgbugfix > Goshawk06:36
hadiOK06:36
ProN00bircleuser, cool enough ?06:36
utabali1234 : I remembered that I had a script for this before so I will pastebin that as well, may be you can know where to put that for automount06:36
ProN00bircleuser, unfortunately that also requires some skill ^^06:36
ircleuserProN00b: Do you mean with xgl?06:36
Dr_Willisalbacker,  i often get the latest from the mplayer homepage06:36
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ircleuser:-)06:36
ProN00bya, xgl06:36
albackerDr_Willis: mplayerhq.hu right ?06:36
Dr_Willisalbacker,  i always google for it06:36
Dr_Willis:)06:36
ali1234utab: tbh i'm clutching at straws now. i've never had this much trouble06:36
ravenousif i wanted to make one dir on my system for all users to access for songs, vids etc where would a good place be? under /share or something is there a better spot for it?06:37
albackerDr_Willis: im not finding the link.. ok ill google too06:37
Goshawkorbin: it's good, but there is not "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4" command06:37
albackerDr_Willis: wheres the link ?06:37
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Ash-FoxYou can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:38
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hadiI change it absolutly but it does not shown in terminal06:38
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Ramunashello06:38
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Ash-FoxRamunas, hello.06:38
utabali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2141406:38
kingrayrayhey, how can i get gtk apps running with sudo permissions to use the same gtk theme as my user?06:38
RamunasI'm thinking of buying a new pc, I was wondering if "ubuntu+sata=problems" is true?06:39
Dr_Willisalbacker,  the mplayer page/server also hosts the w32codecs last i looked. last month or so..06:39
PPowerRamunas: No prob with my nForce 4 SATA06:39
orbinGoshawk: so alter it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:39
GoshawkPPower: i don't know, look at google06:39
PPowerok, thanks06:39
Goshawkorbin: tahnks06:39
Mintyhelp please, afetr update last nite I have now x server not working and can only boot into 'terminal scrren'06:39
orbinyw06:39
Mintywhat do I have to do06:39
Ash-FoxMinty, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:39
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buntu418how to use a midi keyboard with ubuntu to compose music.. any music guys using ubuntu????? i hav a prodikeys creative keyboard!!! plssssss06:39
Dr_Willisalbacker,  right there on the download page. :P06:40
orbinGoshawk: Ash-Fox seems to be doing a good job though :)06:40
orbinno need for ubotu06:40
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ali1234buntu418: the only midi app i could get working was bristol06:40
utabali1234: but could not understand why I can not mount that from command line06:40
ProN00bbuntu418, you could search for apps on freshmeat or sourceforge06:40
Goshawkorbin: yep he's better that ubotu :D, isn't it Ash-Fox?06:40
albackerDr_Willis: the essential package ?06:40
Goshawks/that/than06:40
ProN00bor with synaptic of course, buntu41806:40
Ash-FoxWell, it's a issue that isn't going to last very long anyway.06:40
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Dr_Willisalbacker,  or a quick look at the install guide shows -->  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html06:41
snoopshow can I do a line count on a file?06:41
OoberMicksnoops: wc -l06:41
snoopswc -l filename?06:41
Dr_Willisalbacker,  hmm i recall seeing deb packages tehre befor.. wonder where they went.06:41
OoberMicksnoops: yeah06:41
snoopsgreat06:41
snoopsthanks you06:41
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ali1234utab: ah well your script uses smbmount not mount06:42
StephenlI'm unable to log in to X even after downgrading and upgrading.  It logs me in for a second then kicks me back to the X login screen06:42
ali1234utab: did you try mount -t cifs...06:42
StephenlWhat could be causing this?06:42
c0nfHey! Im from phone. ATM. Installing Ubuntu. I have 2 HDDs. What I need to chose? Both primary ext3?06:42
utabali1234: yes06:42
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utabali1234 : you have suggested that as well06:42
linux__alieni am unable to execute the 32 bit version of Firefox in my 64 bit version06:42
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cfeddeis there a way to get around the 2Gbyte file size limitation of smbfs mount points?06:42
c0nf???06:42
ali1234utab: i don't know then. sorry06:43
utabali1234 : but normal mount also does not work06:43
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c0nfutab?06:43
dsch04easyubuntu.freecontrib.org seems to be down... or is it just me?06:43
Dr_Williscfedde,  i though that limit got removed some time ago.06:43
Ash-FoxStephenl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:43
Ramunascan you guys look and tell me will this machine work fine with Ubuntu, I just want to make sure that I'll be able to use it06:43
Ramunashttp://pastebin.com/77332706:43
utabc0nf: trying to mount a samba drive but no success06:43
ali1234cfedde: use cifs instead of smb06:44
fredlhow can it be that X says [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" ?06:44
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c0nfCan u help me?06:44
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c0nfPlz scroll lil bit up06:44
cfeddeali1234: thanks06:44
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Ash-Foxfredl, a error occured, that's how.06:44
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snoopshehe OoberMick maybe I shouldn't have tried this on a file with close to 3 million database records ;)06:44
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buntu418thank guys.. hav to try cos i dont know whehter ubuntu had detected the midi keyboard o not06:44
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utabc0nf : tell your problem06:44
ali1234buntu418: http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/?q=midihack506:44
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hadihow can I change hostname in terminal?06:45
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esc_apehow can I find out what driver my wireless pci card uses? any command I can put in the terminal?06:45
jpjacobshadi, change it in /etc/hostname06:45
utabhadi : take a look at shell variables06:45
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OoberMicksnoops: perhaps not... you might be there a while06:45
c0nfIm installing ubuntu, i have 2 hdds06:45
fredlAsh-Fox, How can I troubleshoot that though?06:45
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ramviI've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still gf06:45
ramviups06:45
Ash-Foxfredl, I would look at the logs /var/log/xorg.0.log or something like that.06:45
hadiI change it but it does not shown in terminal06:45
c0nfWhat i need to choose06:45
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StephenlAsh-Fox:  I tried both and I still can't login.06:45
c0nfBoth ext3?06:45
fredlAsh-Fox, that's where I got that message from.06:46
ramviI've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still fglrx returns OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org. What do I do for it to use the ati drivers?06:46
Ash-FoxStephenl, they are different commands, choose one and stick with it.06:46
GoshawkRamunas: it should go, but look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:46
c0nf?06:46
fredlramvi - apt-get  install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`06:46
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looktjX wont boot06:46
jbroomeohnoes06:47
jdodsonlooktj: join the club.06:47
Ash-FoxStephenl, if you can install one of them properly, and x doesn't start on next reboot, you can try doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:47
fredllooktj - read the subject line.06:47
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Ash-Foxlooktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:47
xxpor2!xorgbug > looktj06:47
looktjhow do i update w/o reinstalling06:47
TheGateKeeperlooktj: 10.4 is now available in the repos06:47
c0nfPlz help faster im from phone06:47
looktjim on live cd06:47
ramvifredl, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is allready the newest version... :(06:47
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utabhow to install smbmonut06:48
buntu418ali1234: tht app doesnt support my prodikeys creative keyboard.. thanks06:48
ramviutab, sudo apt-get install samba06:48
Goshawkutab: sudo apt-get install packageName06:48
ex_I can't install libfaac0 on 606. because it needs  libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) . Help!06:48
fredlramvi - grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:48
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ali1234buntu418: it should do, if it's a standard midi device06:48
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looktjdo i have to reinstall?06:49
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fredlramvi - got any 'failed to load kernel module "fglrx"' in there?06:49
looktjsince i cant update?06:49
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fredlwhy can't you update?06:49
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buntu418ali1234: oh i see.. thanks.. now installing06:49
looktjit just shows kubuntu06:49
ramvifredl, yeah06:50
ramvifredl, http://pastebin.com/77333306:50
Ash-Foxpipesmoker, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:50
fredlramvi - then you have the same problem I have I think.06:50
Goshawklooktj: do you are having X troubles?06:50
zithowawhat is the type of expression used in most shells?06:50
ChuHello, everyone! I have recently switched monitors for this machine, and now the viewing area seems to go a bit off the screen to the right and bottom. I recall seeing a fix for this, but I have no idea where or how to correct this. :/06:50
looktji cant update cause of x bug06:50
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buntu418ali1234: hey i installed.. wherer to find it06:50
pipesmokerAsh-Fox: thx for the repitition, i downgraded allready, still waiting for the update...06:51
hadihow can I be root in graphical interface?06:51
ramvifredl, the same problem? The same as who?06:51
fredlramvi - yup, exactly the same message I get.06:51
PPowerhadi: Gnome login?06:51
ramvifredl, what do we do?06:51
hadiyes06:51
Goshawklooktj: you can, follow me: are you logged into your machine in the shell?06:51
fredlramvi - and your ATI card used to work fine until today?06:51
zithowathey are not quite standard regular expressions (since * actually means .*)... so what are they?06:51
ali1234buntu418: at console: startBristol06:51
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ramvifredl, nah. New Macbook pro06:51
PPowerhadi: Go to login screen config. I think it is in Administation06:51
buntu418ali1234: thanks'06:51
ali1234buntu418: and then follow the instructions for aconnect06:51
GoshawkPPower: did you found the file in which there is written the login message?06:52
PPowerNo06:52
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harisundI was just wondering, how will I know what ports my firewall is blocking. I couldn't log in to my own box locally using SSH, but it took me a while to realize iptables chains disallowed SSH on my eth0 interface ?06:52
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PPowerGoshawk: Checked bashrc and bash_profiel06:52
fredlramvi - I think it's because of the trouble with xorg-core today, can't think of any other reason why it wouldn't be able to load the kernel module.06:52
looktjGosHawk: I'm on the live cd06:52
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GoshawkPPower: me too06:52
PPowerhadi: Then check the Allow root login box in Security06:52
ramviso I can just start up with an old kernel?06:52
PPowerGoshawk: Do you think it is hard coded06:52
fredlramvi - I just have the complication that I manually installed the 8.27 drivers manually and thought that might be the source of my problems.06:52
Goshawklooktj: you have to be on you pc (no live cd)06:52
hadithx06:53
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Goshawklooktj: do you know how to login from text mode?06:53
SupremacyHey, Could anyone please help me?06:53
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ramvifredl, but it wqa06:53
PPowerGoshawk: Found it06:53
PPower/etc/motd06:53
fredlramvi - don't think so, since the kernel hasn't been update.06:53
MintyAsh-Fox got x server working thanks a lot, saw this on web site but didnt ,nned it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24125406:53
Ash-FoxSupremacy, yes?06:53
GoshawkSupremacy: you should explain your problem06:53
looktjGoshawk: how do i login if there's no login screen06:53
ramvihmm06:53
kingrayrayhey guys, does gdm use a different xorg.conf? sometimes it seems to use settings that i no longer have set in xorg.conf, while startx has no issues06:53
fredlramvi, what's wqa?06:53
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lwizardlhi06:53
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SupremacyI ca'r start X06:53
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Goshawklooktj: don't you get the text based login?06:53
Ash-FoxMinty, no problem.06:53
Supremacycant*06:53
Ash-FoxSupremacy, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade06:54
Goshawklooktj: when x does not work you can login in text mode06:54
buntu418ali1234: plss see the private msg06:54
ramvifredl, typo :P but it did't work?06:54
looktjGoshawk no, just Kubuntu in blue text06:54
ali1234buntu418: i didn;t get any msg. are you registered?06:54
buntu418nop06:54
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looktjdo i do ctrl+alt+f1?06:54
SupremacyCouldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'06:54
buntu418where to see the aconnect06:54
GoshawkAsh-Fox: can i call you with "Ash-Fox: Xbug" :D ?06:54
fredlramvi, the xorg-core update today caused trouble so I thought maybe it was because of my 8.27 manual install. Yeah it worked earlier, and it worked just fine.06:55
ali1234buntu418: at the console06:55
Ash-FoxGoshawk, I suppose :P06:55
looktjbrb06:55
PPowerGoshawk: I found the filename :)06:55
Goshawklooktj: yep you have to dounf  a free terminal with ctrl+alt+f[1-9] 06:55
OoberMickAsh-Fox: you're going to regret that06:55
GoshawkPPower: where is it?06:55
fredlramvi, so I tried to go back to 8.25 and thought that perhaps 8.27 files were in there that caused the prob I'm having now.06:55
PPowerGoshawk: /etc/motd06:55
buntu418nothing abt aconnect in consol06:55
GoshawkPPower: looking06:55
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Ash-FoxOoberMick, why?06:56
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ramvi:(06:56
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Ash-FoxSupremacy, what xserver-xorg-core version do you have installed?06:56
buntu418ali1234: the last thing it shows is"allocated 48 colors06:56
fredldoes anybody use fglrx and does NOT have problems with hardware 3D after today's mess-up?06:56
OoberMickAsh-Fox: RSI from typing the same thing over and over06:56
richiefrichfredl still not worink06:57
SupremacyAsh-Fox, sorry, i'm a new linux user. How can I see what xorg version I have?06:57
richiefrichworkin*06:57
richiefrichfredl :(06:57
ali1234buntu418: you may need to: sudo modprobe snd-seq06:57
fredlrichiefrich, same here. can't load the kernel module for you either?06:57
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PPowerSupremacy: I suppose you dont have graphical at the mo06:57
Stromberg`hi everyone06:57
PPowerHi06:58
Ash-FoxSupremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core06:58
PPowerbah, you beat me :)06:58
buntu418ali1234: u mean before opening the program?06:58
richiefrichfredl no didnt we discuss the new X 7.1?306:58
Stromberg`is there a graphical interface for opening ports in ubuntu?06:58
Stromberg`like 6801,tcp06:58
ali1234buntu418: yes, if it fails to run properly06:58
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richiefrichfredl and that u think u have a strange problem06:58
PPowerStromberg`: Not that I know of, Using firestarter?06:58
fredlrichiefrich, oh, I solved that!!!06:58
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richiefrichfredl did u ever contact ATi?06:58
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linux__alienAll of a sudden my Browser does not connect to the internet. i am using pppoe to connect to the internet06:58
Stromberg`PPower, i dont know firestarter06:58
richiefrichfredl what was it ?06:58
linux__aliencould some one help me please?06:58
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PPowerStromberg`: Do you have it installed? Check in the menus06:59
fredlrichiefrich, remember I got the 2D only driver to work at least? well, that one started getting fickle on me too.06:59
Goshawklinux__alien: are you talking from the same pc in which firefox is running?06:59
linux__alienThe other stuff works but Firefox does not work after some time when i am on line06:59
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richiefrichfredl yes yes tell me more06:59
linux__alienyes06:59
ex_I can't install libfaac0 on dapper because it needs   libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) which is not in dapper. I thought of using equivs but that would be bad.. Ideas?06:59
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Goshawklinux__alien: check proxies06:59
linux__alienGoshawk, yes i am now able to chat using irc and even synaptic is working06:59
fredlrichiefrich, so then it became time to open up the box and get rid of the damn video card. Turned out the fan wasn't spinning.06:59
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SupremacyAsh-Fox, And now? you know I think there's something wrong with my xorg.conf file...06:59
ravenouswhat permissions do i have to give a '/archive' directory so all my users can read and write and execute anything from any dir inside it?06:59
buntu418ali1234: the programs is open .. doesnt make any sound ...keyboard doesnt work with it06:59
linux__alienbut after some minutes Firefox does not connect to the internet06:59
Ash-FoxSupremacy, well, what is the version?06:59
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fredlrichiefrich, it got hot and apparently the fglrx driver makes it hotter faster than the radeon driver.07:00
Goshawklinux__alien: edit---preferencies--general07:00
Goshawklinux__alien: then connection settings07:00
SupremacyAsh-Fox, I don't know... doesn't show any version07:00
Stromberg`PPower, now installed it... it tells me about "Do a new firewall"07:00
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Stromberg`does it use iptables?07:00
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ali1234buntu418: what about if you click on the keys with the mouse?07:00
Goshawklinux__alien: are you there?07:00
fredlrichiefrich, so I installed a new fan, voila, works. And now the fglrx driver worked fine too, until today's mess-up that is :)07:00
linux__alienyes07:00
PPowerStromberg`: Ok, im confused, im not atLinux at the mo. I believe so, run through the wizard07:00
TooTallJonesAnyone care to help me configure my ATI 9550 I get direct rendering: no and 3d applications aren't working at all07:00
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linux__alieni dont have a proxy07:00
dapetAre there a way to make all text bigger in Firefox?07:00
ircleuserHow can I use Lynx to visit a website?07:00
Goshawkset "direct connection"07:00
TooTallJonesi've tried all three possible drivers, and no dice07:00
linux__alieni ve direct connection to the net07:00
Stromberg`ok thx m807:01
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PPowerircleuser: Type g and the url07:01
buntu418ali1234: no sound07:01
ircleuserPPower: Thanks.07:01
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Ash-FoxSupremacy, what does it show?07:01
Goshawklinux__alien: is is set as "direc connection" yet?07:01
PPowernp07:01
ali1234buntu418: try changing the keyboard preset, click the on screen number pad07:01
linux__alienyes07:01
ircleuserPPower: Nothing happens. Do I have to type something before "g"?07:01
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PPowerircleuser: One mo, let me test07:01
fredlanybody here had fglrx driver for ATI card running with hardware 3D support but no longer after today?07:01
Goshawklinux__alien: click on apply07:01
linux__alienGoshawk, Initially it works when i connect to the net but after sometime it does not07:01
matsircleuser: lynx is not in the basic-setup for ubuntu07:02
SupremacyAsh-Fox, when does it show what? please explain again how to show the version07:02
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Goshawklinux__alien: uhm...07:02
Ash-FoxSupremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core07:02
TooTallJonesfredl  I had that problem07:02
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TooTallJonesI have that problem, not from today but a few days ago07:02
FirstStrikehey guys..my x server is refusing to start. it's saying something about "no screens found"07:02
Goshawklinux__alien: do ping www.google.com in a shell and paste me ouput (private please)07:02
PPowerircleuser: When you press g it should say URL to open:07:02
linux__alienGoshawk, when i do traceroute6 www.google.com07:02
linux__alientraceroute: unknown host www.google.com07:02
GoshawkAsh-Fox: Xbug07:02
fredlTooTallJones, ok, did it ever work before?07:02
Ash-FoxFirstStrike, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:02
PPowerircleuser: Are you sure you are using lynx and not LINKS07:02
TooTallJonesYeah it did, then suddenly it was no longer working07:03
GoshawkAsh-Fox: :D you man!07:03
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jpjacobsFirestrike, sounds like a misconfigured xorg.conf to me...07:03
TooTallJonesstill trying to get a fix on it07:03
linux__alienbut xchat is working , gaim is working and infact synaptic is also working07:03
lipe1My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. Ideas?07:03
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TooTallJonesnothing seems to do it =(07:03
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buntu418ali1234: where to find keyboard preset07:03
alekhow to mount smbfs with write perm? mounted folder has chmod 755 so only root can write in it:(07:03
fredlTooTallJones, can you grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me if it shows [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" in there?07:03
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TooTallJonesyeah07:03
linux__alienGoshawk, any ideas?07:03
fredlTooTallJones, does it show that?07:04
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SupremacyAsh-Fox, uhm... doesn't show anything about a version07:04
Goshawklinux__alien: open a shell and type: firefox07:04
ali1234buntu418: you see the green box, numeric keypad, and up/down buttons?07:04
ali1234on the right, just above the keys07:04
Ash-FoxSupremacy, shows here07:04
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SupremacyAsh-Fox, you know, I think there's somehting wrong with my xorg.conf file07:04
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TooTallJonesopen failed07:04
TooTallJonesfredl07:04
looktjCan i help people fix x?07:04
Goshawklooktj: how is it going?07:05
Ash-FoxSupremacy, and until you tell me what version of X you have, I'm not going futher.07:05
ali1234buntu418: click the "V" button until it says "PRG:99" on the green box07:05
Goshawklooktj: did you fixed yours?07:05
ali1234the click a key on the keyboard07:05
Ash-FoxSupremacy, I gave you the command, what was the last line of output?07:05
fredlTooTallJones, do you have the package linux-restricted-modules installed?07:05
cfeddeis there a lib32 version of libgdbm available?07:05
TooTallJonesI do07:05
buntu418ali1234: doesnt help./...:(07:05
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looktji did Ctrl+alt+f1, logined, then did "sudo aptitude update" then sudo aptitude upgrade07:06
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NettezzaUrbanaMyProblem: Unable to retreive modem... any suggestion?07:06
TooTallJonesI upgraded them last night from -23 to -26 to see if that did it, but nope07:06
ProN00bSupremacy, there was a known bad update, it has been fixed with another update, but your mirror might not yet have that, so just update and upgrade, and maybe change the update mirror07:06
looktjthen sudo reboot07:06
ali1234buntu418: then you have some audio problem07:06
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Ash-Foxlooktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:06
Goshawklooktj: it was wrong07:06
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SupremacyAsh-Fox, I typed Xorg -version and it showed X window system version 7.0.007:06
looktjthanks07:06
fredlTooTallJones, weird. It worked for me yesterday so I blamed it exclusively on today's xserver-xorg mess-up07:06
ompaullooktj, why the reboo, just reastart X logout not reboot and log in07:06
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GoshawkSupremacy: package version is not program version07:07
Ash-FoxSupremacy, please give me the output of dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core07:07
TooTallJoneshm07:07
ProN00bSupremacy, do what Ash-Fox told looktj07:07
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buntu418ali1234: my media players and everything works fine :(07:07
TooTallJonesI never had problems untill I downloaded compiz and Xgl07:07
rhyddinhey, whats with the xserver update today? whats new with it? is there a page i can read the changelog at?07:07
lipe1My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. I even reinstalled gnome-control-center07:07
TooTallJonesbut I removed them and no changes07:07
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ompauldriveler|sleep, please do not change your nick - use /away sleeping - it is silent07:07
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Ash-FoxProN00b, I believe Supremacy has two problems actually07:07
looktjompaul: im a newb lol07:07
ali1234buntu418: mine too07:07
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NettezzaUrbanappp doesn't retreive modem... any suggestion?07:07
ompaullooktj, now you know - you don't need to laugh out loud :-)07:08
Ash-Fox!ppp07:08
ubotuppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4b1-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 314 kB, installed size 1000 kB07:08
ali1234buntu418: the only other thing to try is qsynth, but i don't know how to make a sound from that. it will however, log your midi events to the screen07:08
PPowerTo people having trouble with X: I believe a new version has hit the repos, (10.4). Can someone test this for us?07:08
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driveler|sleepompaul, thanks07:08
Goshawklinux__alien: are you still here?07:08
fredlPPower - I have the new version with apt-get07:08
SupremacyAsh-Fox, how about: X protocol version 11 ? because when typing dpkg -1 xserver-xorg it doesn't show anything07:08
Ash-Fox!softmodem07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about softmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
PPowerfredl: The 10.4?07:08
fredlPPower - yes I believe so, lemme check07:08
Stuttergartam I crazy or do the FDS docs not have any information about what information you need to login to the console?07:08
buntu418ali1234: thanks.. will try tht... do u know how to check whether this keyboard has been detected by ubuntu properly07:09
Ash-FoxSupremacy, that tells me the x protocol version, not the package version.07:09
PPowerfredl: If it is, does it work07:09
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fredl1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 works.07:09
ali1234buntu418: aconnect -i07:09
Ash-FoxSupremacy, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ?07:09
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fredlPPower - but there appears to be another problem with it.07:09
Stuttergartcn="Directory  Manager"/<password>/<URL>07:09
PPowerwhat07:09
NettezzaUrbanait's a bluetooth modem... however thanks for helping me07:09
Stuttergartbut what is the correct URL?07:09
fredlPPower, for some reason X logs that it cannot load the fglrx kernel module.07:10
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Stuttergarthttp://<servername>:2405?07:10
rhyddinalright, wtf? i installed the new update and now my xserver wont start.07:10
SupremacyAsh-Fox, ok, downloading xorg-core07:10
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Goshawklooktj: log from you pc and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 to fix X07:10
Ash-FoxSupremacy, er, it must be xserver-xorg-core07:10
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PPowerfredl: Ok, but it should be alright for all non fglrx users07:10
alekhow to get write perm in samba mounted folder? parameter "rw" doesnt work:(07:10
SupremacyAsh-Fox, sorry, meant that07:10
fredlPPower, from Xorg.0.log: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"07:10
PPowerfredl: Shall I tell everyone07:10
rhyddinyeah, its xserver-xorg-core07:10
harisundPpower you mean the latest update doesn't work for users with flgrx module loaded?07:10
PPowerYes, it works for everyone else07:11
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rhyddini dont use the fglrx07:11
SupremacyAsh-Fox, ok, it's installed07:11
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Ash-Foxfredl, 'lspci |grep -i ati' ?07:11
fredlPPower - who's 'everyone'? :) The 10.4 may not be available in all repos I think.07:11
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SupremacyAsh-Fox, shall I try to reboot?07:11
PPowerfredl: It is in the UK one07:11
phreakyshey07:11
rhyddini have an ati 7500 - the fglrx module doesnt work on it07:11
rhyddinbut the new update definately screwed up X07:11
harisundPPower: hmmm.. I haven't updated yet. rhyddin what else would you suggest I use for the ATi Radeon Xpress 200M card? Only that provides me with 3D?07:11
PPowerrhyddin: Bug in 10.407:11
PPowerharisund: Dont update07:11
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fredlAsh-Fox, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)] 07:11
SKossuim a total newb, but why dont terminal recognize the command make? :S07:11
harisundPpower right. I am not updating yet :)07:11
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jbroomei believe the bug is in 10.307:11
PPowerharisund: Excellent07:12
jbroome10.4 is the fix07:12
Ash-FoxSupremacy, type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, and after startx (not as root)07:12
harisundSkossu you will have to install it. execute 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'07:12
lamegoSKossu, because you need to install the package build-essential07:12
GoshawkSKossu: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:12
SKossuah, thanks07:12
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Larsson-SwedenIm experiencing slow file transfers in amsn 0.97b ! Any ideas?07:12
cicahi guys07:12
harisundWow! That was 3 quick replies for SKossu one after the other :07:12
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rhyddinI was just using the radeon driver and had acceleration .. dont know whats up with it now07:12
PPower>>> If you are NOT using fglrx driver, _please run apt-get update, and then install the latest X server (check first that it is 10.4) <<<07:12
ali12340.07:12
SupremacyAsh-Fox, how do I "logout" from root?07:13
LaneIf an IDE hardware RAID is set up properly will Linux see it as a single disk07:13
fredlwhere's that xserver-xorg-core builder hiding anyway? :)07:13
ChuOkay, I just recently got breezy on this machine, and now I see dapper. Is there a decent way to upgrade WITHOUT burning the iso?07:13
Goshawkharisund: :D07:13
cicacan anyone please advise on how to install downloaded sound tar balls?07:13
Ash-FoxSupremacy, 'exit'07:13
cicai.e. for system sounds07:13
PPowerChu: Mount as a loop, 1 mo07:13
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nikinhow can i enable universe and multiverse repos in console?07:13
fredlcica - untar them using tar xvf <filename>07:13
buntu418ali1234: \thanks.. i think i hav to try and figure out.. gnight07:13
ChuPPower: I'm sorry, I didn't get that... :p07:13
SupremacyAsh-Fox, aaah it seems to work! Big thanks man!07:13
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phreakysi removed the open apps from the gnome taskbar. how can i get it back? ;(07:13
Ash-FoxSupremacy, no problem :)07:13
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cicafredl: then were are the placed?07:13
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PPowerchu: See http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper on How to mount/unmount Image (ISO) files without burning07:13
lamegonikin, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:13
Goshawknikin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list07:13
ChuAh, thanks!07:14
SupremacyAsh-Fox, people like you should get a reward or something :)07:14
harisundPpower does it mean there will eventually be a fix for fglrx users? (hopefully :) )07:14
fredlnikin - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories07:14
rummikdoes ubuntu delete the packages it downloaded?07:14
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rhyddinOk, how do I just roll back to the previous xorg core version?07:14
Goshawkrummik: no07:14
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harisundrummik not unless you ask it to07:14
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fredlcica - usually in your current working directory otherwise in /07:14
PPowerrhyddin: read the title of the channel, and see the bug report, read that07:14
jbroomerummik: /var/cache/apt/07:14
harisundrummik: the packages are in /var/cache/apt .....07:14
Ash-Foxfredl, your card doesn't work with the ati proprietory drivers, and should have 3d acceleration out of the box with the default ones07:14
Goshawkrummik: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives07:14
harisundrummik: you can delete is using apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean07:14
rummikok, thanks guys07:15
phreakysmy apps dont show up anymore in the taskbar :S07:15
Ash-Foxfredl, if you remove fglrx, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, you should have 3d acceleration after restarting x07:15
rhyddinthanks07:15
fredlAsh-Fox, lemme try07:15
phreakysgnome panel that is07:15
fredlAsh-Fox, should I also remove the linux-restricted-modules package?07:15
Ash-Foxfredl, By the way, to test if you have hardware acceleration: glxinfo |grep direct07:15
Maenplease someone help me configure pptp :(07:15
rhyddinis 'no devices deteced' same as 'no screens found'?07:15
Ash-Foxfredl, you can leave that there.07:15
pianoboy3333Can anyone help me with compiling issues? I have posted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=140966207:15
PPowerAnd please update your X server (update apt first) once you remove fglrx, but check if your mirror is using X 10.407:15
Ash-Foxrhyddin, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:16
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cicafredl: and the system will just pick them up??! (when I say system sounds I mean like start up sound, click sound etc etc) I know when installing icon themes it's done through system -> preferences -> themes. know whatta mean???07:16
nikinty :D07:16
fredlPPower, I already have 10.4, just told you that :P07:16
ChuPPower: Replace file.iso with the path the the actual thing, I assume? :x07:16
PPowerAsh-Fox: I believe the title needs to be changed07:16
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PPowerChu: Never ;)07:16
cicafredl: therefore I though it'd be done in a similar way when installing systems sounds07:16
PPowerfredl: i wasnt tarrgiting you07:16
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lipe1where can I manually set my keyobard layout to gnome?07:17
fredlAsh-Fox, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide07:17
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Wandererblah, back packages from cipherfunk07:17
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fredlAsh-Fox, it says to install xorg-driver-fglrx07:17
Wandererwell, lack of packages07:17
Ash-Foxfredl, please do what I say07:18
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lipe1anyone?07:18
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fredlAsh-Fox, dpkg --purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?07:18
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Ash-Foxapt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx07:18
Goshawklipe1: system-->preferences-->keyboard07:18
jpjacobslipe1 System>Preferences>keyboard07:18
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jpjacobsdarn...to late :p07:19
lipe1Goshawk: it is crashing, thats why I need to make manualy07:19
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Goshawkjpjacobs: hehehhe07:19
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Ash-Foxfredl, you should of had hardware acceleration when you first installed ubuntu with your particular graphic card.07:19
fredlokaaay... I'll give it a try...07:19
Goshawklipe1: does it report an error?07:19
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rummikpcsx doesn't work..."/usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found"07:19
lipe1Goshawk: only trhat it terminated unexpected, only when I want to add an layout07:19
cicaanyone know where systems sound packages should be installed _Please_ :-)07:19
fredlok, I removed that and dpkg-reconfigured....07:20
fredllemme restart X07:20
fredlbrb07:20
looktjfredl: put your rate at 24.5/s -.-07:20
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fredlrate??07:20
Goshawklipe1: do this in a shell: gnome-keyboard-properties07:20
looktjnvm07:20
lipe1it crashes after adding a layut07:20
Ash-FoxWhat are you talking about looktj?07:20
Goshawkcica: what do you mean for system sound package?07:20
PPowerBye again!07:21
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looktjthought his repeat rate was fast07:21
rhyddinAsh-Fox: So whats the deal with this? Is it going to be fixed, or do I have to just ignore that it wants to update?07:21
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Goshawklipe1: gnome-keyboard-properties ---> try to change the layout, when it crashes it reports an erro in the shell, paste it here07:21
looktjkeyboard07:21
lipe1Goshawk: ** (gnome-keyboard-properties:5503): WARNING **: key HZTG: keycode = 4294967295; not in range 8..25507:21
ChickenBrainhi, i have problems to install java-package in dapper07:21
Ash-Foxrhyddin, it's already been fixed, it's just a question of when yourm irror gets 10.407:21
ChickenBrainactually the package isn't there07:21
rhyddinAsh-Fox: I'm not complaining, this is the first glitch I've had with Ubuntu, but I'm curious what happened.07:21
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looktjrhyddin: login on text mode07:22
sethkrhyddin, it will be fixed I'm sure within a day07:22
Goshawklipe1: maybe it's a wrong layout, it says that it can read a keycode (or better, it seems wrong)07:22
cicaGoshawk: like icon packages or GDM themes. I've found one on gnome-look.org that I'd like to install07:22
Ash-Foxrhyddin, well, a security update messed up things in xorg, and as such they rolled back to the older version, under a new version number, 10.407:22
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cicaGoshawk: do you know what I'm talking about?07:23
lipe1Goshawk: Right now it is US, im trying to put BR07:23
rhyddinOk, thats cool.07:23
eugmanSo how hard would it be to have a rollback feature in grub like many have suggested?07:23
cicaGoshawk: these http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=25&PHPSESSID=ce5967533131309ed7deb8ba7b53f83107:23
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Goshawkcica: no, i never did it, but i understood, i'm looking in google, you can do too07:23
rhyddinRollback would be neat, but in this kind of situation you'd still have to do it from the cl so there isn't much point. Its just as easy to downgrade using apt07:24
cicaGoshawk: I will do. But previous attempts produced nothing :-( But I'll try again07:24
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Goshawkcica: are tehy sounds or icons(theme)?07:24
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Goshawkcica: system---->preferencies--->theme for themes07:25
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phreakysbah07:25
phreakysdont know how to put apps back on the gnome panel :S07:25
bilss_hope to start firefox from command line but with root access07:25
FirstStrikewell, that was fun07:25
cicaGoshawk: sounds. I've got the themes working07:25
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cicaGoshawk: it's the sounds part I'm stuck at :-(07:26
FirstStrikei'm going to smack whoever said it was a misconfigured x server07:26
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Goshawkcica: unpackem in a directory07:26
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Goshawkcica: unpack them07:26
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Goshawkcica: and go to system---->preferencies--->sound07:26
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idefixwhat vfstype does a DVDrom have?07:26
cicaGoshawk: right07:26
sethkFirstStrike, wasn't me.  you got hit by the bad update?07:27
Goshawkcica: there are the events07:27
crparrHi! I have got a root server with ssh access. I have done apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. But how can I verify, that the dist upgrade has worked???07:27
rhyddinidefix : just try using -o loop if u r trying to mount it07:27
axismedo a cat /proc/version07:27
axismewhat does it say07:27
Goshawkcica: for each event you can play a sound, there is "select sound file"07:27
cicaGoshawk: and just apply sound to an event07:27
axismesorry that was for crparr07:27
Goshawkcica: you are right :D07:27
cicaGoshawk: nice one!!! :-D07:27
cntb!grub07:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:28
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cicaGoshawk: appreciate the help mate :-D07:28
FirstStrikesethk: yea07:28
lipe1Goshawk: isnt there a way to manually edit the keyboard conf to gnome?07:28
Goshawkcica: i'm here to help :D07:28
cntbwhere is the grub menu file ?07:28
Goshawklipe1: uhm.. wait07:28
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Ash-Fox/boot/grub/menu.lst07:28
cicaGoshwak: thanks again :)07:28
ChickenBrainhttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk <-- anything wrong with mutliverse?07:29
avisdoes anyone know if the developers have fixed the problem or not ?07:29
Ash-FoxNo.07:29
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Ash-Foxavis, what problem?07:29
ProN00bwhy is linux so bad at detecting keyboard layouts ?07:29
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aviswith xserver ?07:29
Ash-Foxavis, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:29
FirstStrikeProN00b: lack of support from the manufacturers07:29
Ash-FoxSo in a word, yes. The problem has been fixed.07:29
avisok thank you07:30
rhyddinavis: apparently its fixed, we're just waiting for it to migrate to the mirrors07:30
ProN00bFirstStrike, couldn't it do it like windows and just use the windows keyboard standart, i mean everyone supports that07:30
cello_raspcould anyone give me the output of           ls -all ~/.vnc/xstartup   ?07:30
pianoboy3333I have a bit of a weird compiling issue with gaim, and banshee, and many other applications involving libxrender (I think) checkout my post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409662 any help would be appreciated07:30
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FirstStrike...07:30
rhyddinAsh-Fox: And how do u do that?07:30
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ex_has anyone got aac stuff playing with gstreamer?07:31
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ProN00bFirstStrike, or at least mark the keyboard driver that windows would use... ?07:31
sethkpianoboy3333, what's weird?  It's just a missing library07:31
Ash-Foxrhyddin, well, I test a update on one computer, if it works fine, I stick it on the lan's repository, and get the updates shiped out to the other computers.07:31
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pianoboy3333sethk: ok, what package should I install?07:31
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connyosisis there a text mode xorg configurator for ubuntu? My X died and refuses to work for some reason07:31
sethkpianoboy3333, checking07:31
pianoboy3333kk07:31
FirstStrikeyea. and while we're at it we should just copy all of windows drivers over to linux, right ProN00b? Cause that would be like totally smart.07:31
sethkpianoboy3333, try libxrender-dev07:31
rhyddinAsh-Fox: In this case wasnt the bug isolated to a particular subset of systems? How would u know for sure?07:31
Goshawklipe1: sorry i don't know how to help you07:32
pianoboy3333sethk: It's installed07:32
sethkpianoboy3333, there is also libxrender1 and libxrender1-dbg07:32
utabI am using //10.33.175.17/pool    /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL smbfs  credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777  0    0 to mount a netwotk drive but I get07:32
Ash-Foxrhyddin, most of the hardware getting the updates is very similar to the test computer.07:32
pianoboy3333sethk: they're all installed07:32
sethkpianoboy3333, oh, wait, sorry, libxrender-dev installs a conventional library, not a libtool library07:32
lipe1Goshawk: ty anyway, my xorg is ok, that is the most strange thing. I reinstalled everything from gnome07:32
otroeanGot ATI x700 and Dapper but I can't get ATI drivers to work. Only VESA works. How can I get 16:9 resolution with VESA drivers?07:32
tabmanI'm looking for help on bluetooth on Ubuntu, I've gone through a how to to setup a single cell phone with ubuntu, but I need help on connecting multiple clients07:32
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Ash-Foxrhyddin, I use the same update practices with windows :)07:33
Goshawklipe1: what's your problem with the keyboard layout?07:33
Goshawklipe1: is it wrong?07:33
rummikwhere do i find lndir?07:33
rhyddinAsh-Fox: Ah. I c. Well, I'm glad there are people around who are in the know and willing to help the community at large.07:33
sethkpianoboy3333, my guess is that there is something that produces the libtool library when you compile from source07:33
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lipe1Goshawk:  YEs it is US and it should be bt07:33
rhyddinAsh-Fox: Like yourself.07:33
pianoboy3333sethk: which means?07:33
utabI get the error wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.33.175.17/pool,07:33
Ash-Foxrhyddin, the issue was found before I even discovered it, so I didn't really help much other than on the channel :P07:33
lipe1Goshawk: I had a bug with the home key and tried to do defaults to clear it up, but now i cant change layout07:33
rummiki searched for 'lndir' in synaptic, but i don't get any results07:33
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Ash-Foxotroean, what is your xserver version?07:34
Goshawklipe1: during sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you select the keyboard layout. but use that command carefully, you can break X07:34
Ash-Foxotroean, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core ?07:34
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lipe1Goshawk: ty07:34
rhyddinAsh-Fox: Well, every little bit helps, you know? Most of these guys have switched from Windows and wouldn't know a cl from a hole in the wall.07:34
donraribhi everyone07:34
otroeanAsh-Fox:  I'm new with Linux. How can i find the version?07:34
jamwbuttrhello , im new to the ubuntu , but i have a problem with installing the ubuntu lts to my desktop. It freezes at the login screen. keyboard and mouse doesnt work.  Any ideas on how to fix.07:34
utabHelp needed to mount samba drives07:34
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donraribi have a question07:34
sethkrummik, doesn't appear in a package.  I see the man page for lndir, for it and ja, but nothing else07:34
Ash-Foxotroean, open a terminal/type into a console: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core07:34
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donraribthe linux is good for development07:35
donrarib??07:35
pianoboy3333sethk: so what do I do?07:35
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Ash-Foxdonrarib, linux is a kernel.07:35
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Goshawkdonrarib: Gnu/linux ubuntu is good enaught07:36
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sethkpianoboy3333, I'm not sure, let me see if I can find anything relevant07:36
Goshawkenought07:36
rummiksethk: i think i'll do some google and see if i can get that working...looks like i could just use ln to do the same function07:36
otroeanAsh-Fox: xserver-xorg-c 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server07:36
donraribyes07:36
pianoboy3333sethk: is libtool a library?07:36
rhyddinomg, dont start the linux vss gnu/linux thing07:36
donraribbut my object is work with delphi07:36
donraribin case, of kilux07:36
Ash-Foxotroean, alrighty, would you mind telling me what you've tried/done so far?07:36
donraribits satisfact?07:36
sethkpianoboy3333, no, libtool is, as you might guess, a library management tool07:36
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rhyddindonrarib: I use Delphi under windows and Kylix on Linux .. are you having a problem with it?07:37
pianoboy3333sethk: ok....07:37
Goshawkotroean:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:37
utabcoudl you please help me to mount samba drives07:37
sethkpianoboy3333, the missing file is just a text file which contains info about the library07:37
pianoboy3333ah, ok07:37
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donraribrhyddin, yes07:37
Goshawkutab: sorry i don't know07:37
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sethkpianoboy3333, you could install the libtool and libtool-doc packages07:37
donrariba week ago im testing the kilux07:37
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KenSentMe!samba > utab07:37
pianoboy3333ok07:37
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sethkpianoboy3333, I'd have to check the docs, though, to see if that really gets you anywhere07:37
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kyjaanybody have trouble with 10.4?07:38
pianoboy3333sethk: well, I have libtool, I'm installing libtool-doc..... I wonder if that'll help....07:38
Ash-Foxkyja, no.07:38
donraribbut its a decepcinf07:38
pianoboy3333sethk: doubt it07:38
kyjathx Ash-Fox07:38
donraribnot good07:38
Ash-Foxkyja, it's the old version repackaged under a new version.07:38
otroeanAsh-Fox: Tried all res with ati driver.07:38
sethkpianoboy3333, well, it will keep you busy for a few minutes, anyway  :)07:38
kyjahehe07:38
rhyddindonrarib: Can u be more specifc?07:38
Ash-Foxotroean, which ati driver? proprietory?07:38
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Goshawkdonrarib: on ubuntu you can play with better languages like C, C++ python, ruby and so on07:39
pianoboy3333sethk: nope, didin't work07:39
otroeanAsh-Fox: The one with the Ubuntu CD07:39
Johan_vdafter an update I am unable to open xserver xlog said no screen found :-((07:39
rhyddinGoshawk: He is using Delphi under windows, most likely he wants a similar environ to work with.07:39
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donraribyes07:39
Johan_vdbut it is in config07:39
GoshawkJohan_vd:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:39
sethkpianoboy3333, it isn't supposed to work.  you are supposed to look at the man pages for ideas07:39
GoshawkAsh-Fox: i was faster :D07:39
Ash-Foxotroean, this maybe of use to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:40
pianoboy3333sethk: oh, heh07:40
utabKentMe: I have done exactly the same thing but got error07:40
knapperHello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?07:40
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jamwbuttrcheck out the forum on the new update problem on the x ----- they have a fix there07:40
fredlAsh-Fox, no luck without the fglrx driver07:40
Ash-FoxGoshawk, yeah, my attention was diverted to helping someone else :P07:40
otroeanAsh-Fox: thnx.07:40
donraribim on test with kilux, but its complicated07:40
Goshawkrhyddin: ah sorry, he writes in multiple lines and i didn't read that part07:40
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donraribi install it07:40
Ash-Foxfredl, can you try following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?07:40
fredlAsh-Fox, the standard ATI driver doesn't detect my card.07:40
Goshawkkilux?07:40
donrariband when i will start, show this message07:41
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eric_oAnyone could help me to get my tv-out to work07:41
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donrarib/home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference07:41
Rookie-!tvout07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
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rhyddinGoshawk: Its actually Kylix - borlands cross-platform environ that uses obj pascal07:41
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fredlAsh-Fox, ok. Site seems to be real slow though.07:41
Rookie-!tv07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
sethkrhyddin, eclipse has some similar features.  the gui builder sun distributes with the sdk is also worth a look07:41
gafitaola07:41
donraribare u know this problem?07:41
Goshawkrhyddin: :D ah it's not my stuff07:42
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sethkdonrarib, wrong glib version07:42
donraribbuts the problem is not this07:42
Johan_vdwrote it down I hate to be here in windows :P07:42
Johan_vdthanks07:42
gafitahello07:42
jamwbuttr>:o  helolo    i need help on new install ----  log in freezes  every time.  Right after sound goes off.  I tried to ctrl alt f1 and it still did it  when it hit the command prompt.   What could the problem bee????????07:42
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fredlAsh-Fox, ah that's pretty much the same as is on ubuntuguide07:43
rhyddindonrarib: when are you getting the error?07:43
donraribthe project kylix is until in use?07:43
donraribin the start07:43
eric_o!tvout07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
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rhyddindonrarib: did you install the key that borland sent you?07:43
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eric_o!nvtv07:43
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)07:43
donraribits a text data07:44
Ash-Foxfredl, there is additional troubleshooting tricks there I believe though.07:44
lipe1Goshawk: the problem was that I had to choose a generic keyboard instead of abnt2 first. After I choose generic keyboard, i  could change the layout. TY07:44
fredlAsh-Fox, for me the 'ati' driver does not work. The fglrx driver used to work but fglrxinfo shows Mesa.07:44
donraribhow i install it?07:44
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Goshawklipe1: good to know07:44
Rookie-eric_o - just make sure you have "universe" enable in your source.list07:44
gafitahello07:44
Goshawklipe1: so now is fixed, isn't it?07:44
Ash-Foxfredl, fglxinfo should say "Direct Rendering: Yes", for hardware acceleration.07:44
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sethkgafita, ask a question to get a response07:45
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lipe1Goshawk: My last problem is prolly a non solution one. Everytime I press control +shift + f or control + shift + e the result is this:  . The problem is that even in Eclipse where they are shortcuts, those characters appear07:45
cntbubuntu alternate CD didnot finish well install adn now iam stuck with grub prompt07:45
donraribbut rhyddin, i like to know if this language is a good for linux07:45
rhyddindonrarib: Just copy it into the Kylix dir. Then start the application.07:45
donrarib?07:45
Botjein the installer: how do you give extra kernel parameters?07:46
jamwbuttrat least you got  the grub prompt07:46
Botjesimply typing in "noapic noacpi" doesn't quite work07:46
Goshawklipe1: i get them too07:46
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rhyddindonrarib: Well, like a couple other people said, there are better languages for linux.07:46
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Goshawklipe1: ctrl+shift+f = 07:46
lipe1Goshawk: yeah but they are no where to be configured or something loike that07:46
elmargolhi all07:46
elmargolHow can I make those folder icons on evolution smaller?07:47
donrariba person question, rhydin...07:47
jamwbuttrhi dont know07:47
donraribyou use a kilux?07:47
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Goshawkhi again orbish07:47
orbishhow can i reinstall gtk?07:47
vaderGood day folks, I have 2 pc's one with ubuntu and one with Kubuntu..... same  problem, x is dead, says it cannot find the screen07:47
orbishi'm going nuts07:47
donraribits a good application?07:47
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rhyddindonrarib: I only use Kylix if I have to - if I'm porting a proprietary application. For general development I use C on Linux.07:48
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lipe1k guys ty for the help, i will post that problem goshawk. [] s07:48
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donraribmy fear is the kilux is not a good application...07:48
sethkvader, see channel topic for ix07:48
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sethkvader, s/ix/fix/07:48
donraribbecause i will work with delphi on the office and the scool07:48
Goshawkvader:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade07:49
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tom__bonjour tout le monde, il y a des francais ici ?07:49
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rhyddindonrarib: Try going to Applications/Add-Remove and getting all the stuff for kdevelop - its a pretty good starter suite for development.07:49
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Ash-Foxdonrarib, it's called kylix, not kilux.07:49
c0nfidencalHey! Just installed Ubuntu ^^! I have 2 HDD's. 250 & 300 GB! I 248 GB as primary ext3 (Where Ubuntu is installed!), 2 GB for swap, 300 GB as primary ext3 storage. Did i do wrong? Or right... Maybe I needed reiserfs, or??? :)07:49
Goshawk!french > Goshawk07:49
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Goshawk!french > tom__07:49
tom__oui07:49
donraribyes07:49
orbishhow can i reinstall GTK07:49
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donrariba moment07:50
Goshawktom__: read ubotu07:50
tom__francais Goshawk ?07:50
Goshawktom__: no, italian07:50
tom__ok07:50
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c0nfidencalAnyone? >_<07:50
tom__ha thanks07:50
Goshawkorbish: libgtk2 i think07:50
Goshawkorbish: let me see07:50
tom__thanks Goshawk07:50
orbishthat's not working for me07:50
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Ash-FoxI would reccommend using reiserfs over ext307:50
Goshawkorbish: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library07:50
c0nfidencalAsh-Fox, for both?07:51
c0nfidencalOr?07:51
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orbishthanks a lot dude07:51
Goshawktom__: you are welcome07:51
Ash-Foxc0nfidencal, reiserfs is a lot faster than ext3.07:51
c0nfidencalO_O07:51
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Goshawkorbish: next time: apt-cache search pattern07:51
c0nfidencalFor both then?07:51
sethkc0nfidencal, reiserfs is not, in fact, faster in any realistic configuration07:51
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sethkc0nfidencal, plus, reiserfs is full of bugs.  stay away from it.07:51
c0nfidencalO_O07:52
GoshawkAsh-Fox: reiserfs can have fragmentation problem, but i'm using it :D07:52
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c0nfidencalSo it's aight that I installed both @ ext3?07:52
rhyddinreiser is hella fast though07:52
sethkc0nfidencal, yes07:52
Ash-Foxsethk, I've been using it for years.07:52
c0nfidencal:p07:52
kyjaI dont understand why I cant play midi07:52
c0nfidencalthx07:52
sethkrhyddin, no, not in realistic situations, it isn't07:52
Goshawkc0nfidencal: there are many thoughts about reiserfs07:52
Ash-Foxsethk, if there were noticable bugs, I would of had them already. Especially with all the powercuts and such that I Have.07:52
elmargolI'm using reiser for mails only07:52
c0nfidencal:p07:52
sethkAsh-Fox, there are always people who say that.  then there are people like me, who have seen the problems and have also actually tested the performance rather than just reading claims07:52
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c0nfidencal99% [Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org]  <- Works for anyone?07:53
sethkAsh-Fox, do a web search, you'll find gobs of evidence about the bugs07:53
c0nfidencalI tried to install VLC but it stopped @ 99% cuz of that >_<07:53
rhyddini ran reiser on slackware for a couple years while it was still beta .. amazingly stable at the time. using ext3 now, but i cant think of anything bad that came from resier.07:53
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Ash-Foxsethk, admittedly I never ran my own benchmarks, but I have read others and my system is certainly faster than when it was under ex3.07:53
sethkAsh-Fox, your idea, that you would have seen bugs if they exist, is simply not true07:53
Goshawksethk: both of them have their own problems and features07:53
sethkAsh-Fox, run them yourself, you'll find it isn't true07:53
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sethkGoshawk, with the reiserfs problems, you lose entire file systems.  the two are not comparable07:53
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?07:53
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kunghi there, since the last update my x-server won't start...is there any way to undo the last update (using synaptic i.e.)07:54
Ash-Foxsethk, Results 1 - 20 of about 1,020,000 for ext3 bug. Results 1 - 20 of about 142 for reisferfs bug.07:54
rhyddinAnyone else get the impression that sethk is a troll?07:54
lamegokung, read the topic please07:54
sethkkung, see channel topic for fix07:54
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snoopsmy fingers are crossed for reiser4.. I can't wait for it to mature so I can use it.. bouncing trees.. yippee07:54
sethkrhyddin, I have been on this channel for months.  I'm hardly a troll07:54
Goshawksethk: i used it from 2 years, no problems, with ext3 i have to wait many minutest for fsck every 30 times that i reboot07:54
oyvindkung: Download this package and install it with "dpkg -i ..": http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb07:54
orbishhmm that didn't help07:54
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kungthx :))07:54
sethkGoshawk, no, you don't.  use tunefs to turn that feature off07:54
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Goshawkrhyddin: sethkis not a troll, trolls speak in a diferent way07:55
sethkGoshawk, set the fsck interval to 0, which means never07:55
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orbishgtk2 and glib errors out the wazoo in my .xsession-errors07:55
cntbwhere in etc is the machine name ?07:55
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orbishi might need to reinstall gnome?07:55
c0nfidencalping: unknown host packages.freecontrib.org <- It's just for me? :\07:55
rhyddinsethk: Just because u had issues with something doesnt mean its bad though. Reiser never gave me probs and I ran it for ages.07:55
orbishfreecontrib has been down for me too07:55
c0nfidencaldamn07:55
snoopsI never had any issues with reiserfs when I used it either07:55
sethkrhyddin, it isn't just me.  I've helped many many people here who've had the problem.  at least three last week, if you go back and check the channel logs07:56
Goshawkrhyddin: he is not the first one that had problem with reiserfs07:56
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lamegodoes anyone have a copy of easyubuntu :P ?07:56
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c0nfidencal:p07:56
gafitaalg habla SPANISH?07:56
Crescendo!es07:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:56
sethksnoops, that proves nothing.  the problems may be rare but they absolutely exist.  a web search will show you07:56
lamegogables, #ubuntu-es07:56
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rhyddinah well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.07:56
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?07:56
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sethkgafita, hablo un poco pero el -es es mejoy07:56
sethkmejor07:56
KuprinHey, ubuntu folks - I need to set up XMMS-Midi in Ubuntu, there's no APT package for it. Anyone good with MIDI setups here?07:56
snoopssethk it proves I had no problems with it...gosh, you don't need to be a jerk07:56
orbishgoshawk any ideas? :(07:57
Goshawkrhyddin: no, i use reiserfs and i'll use it, but i know that it's not stable like ext307:57
gdbGoshawk: you really should allow the forced check from time to time regardless.  In general, 30 reboots means a machine has been running for a very very long time.  However, if you reboot frequently (perhaps a laptop that you shutdown when moving to a new location) then setting that parameter not to 0, as other have suggested, but a much higher number, say, 300, would be more advisable.  Or just rememeber to do a forced check every now and then.07:57
Mintyam going to install 64 versio as well as my 32bit version, do I just do a second install like I did for the 1rst one ??07:57
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Goshawkorbish: about what?07:57
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gafitaola goapa07:57
sethkGoshawk, that's rational07:57
rhyddinGoshawk: What factors make it unstable? Just out of curiosity.07:57
janbananwhat is the latest fglrx-drivers 8.26.18?07:57
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Kuprinjanbanan, that sounds right07:57
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utabI am getting some errors while trying to mount windows shares07:58
Goshawkrhyddin: after a while it loses his speed07:58
orbishgoshawk: i'm getting gtk2 and glib errors in my .xsession-errors, i think i have to reinstall gnome, do you know the command, i'm trying apt-get install gnome and it's not working07:58
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Goshawkrhyddin: look on google, there are fragmentation problems07:58
orbishi don't know where to find the correct package names basically07:58
kyjaits not that big of a deal to let it check after every 30 restarts is it? or we talking about patiance on old slow machines?07:58
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Rookie-!nvtv07:58
ubotunvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)07:58
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rhyddinGoshawk: Really, hrm .. that sucks. Yeah, I'll google it.07:58
sethkkyja, no, it isn't a big deal, but some folks prefer to decide for themselves when to do it07:59
kyjaoh ok.07:59
janbananI'm using fglrx 8.25.18. should I update to the latest. have a X700- series card07:59
sethkkyja, which you can do, by turning off the automatic one with tune2fs07:59
c0nfidencalEy, wtf? xchat showing some red stripe... -> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9885/screenshotsj9.png07:59
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Goshawkrhyddin: in fact i use reiserfs on my laptop (here) and for development machines, but on my server i run ext307:59
c0nfidencalhow to remove it >_<07:59
kyjaok =] 07:59
utabis there someone to help me mount windows shares07:59
gdbkyja: it could be if you're say, a student using a laptop at college and you end up shutting it down and restarting it, litterally, 5 or so times a day.  That forced check is killer when you walk into class and turn on your machine to take notes and you have to wait a long time for the check.07:59
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gafitaai alguna chica espaola por aqui?07:59
ircleuserWas it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?07:59
johan__Hi am back in linux irc was asking about xserver which is not possible to start which file must I upgrade pls do me a new reply07:59
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TheGateKeeperutab: did you sort your keyboard?08:00
javiologafita > es08:00
snoopskyja personally I have tunefs set to check every month.. which is far more occasional than 30 restarts, but I feel it's a fairly good number08:00
gdbkyja: I still think, however, that the forced check does need to be allowed to continue at *some* kind of reasonable interval.08:00
javiolo!es08:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:00
ElephantDoes anyone know anything about webmin?08:00
Goshawkgdb: thanks for your help... in my server i use ext3, in my laptop i like play with reiserfs3.6 and 408:00
Goshawk:D08:00
gdbGoshawk: hehe08:00
orbish:/08:00
utabTheGateKeeper: I have installed from scratch08:00
sethkgafita, si, yo, pero las regulas dice solo inglais por aqui08:00
kyjayour right gdb to yhink of it that way, I have fast laptop and is only 2 extra minutes but in sa class that would be a big deal08:00
gdbsnoops: Yes, that's a good solution, a time based check, rather than a "per number of reboots" check.08:00
Goshawkgdb: and i'm waiting edgy + xen to enlarge the field of the game :D08:00
utabTheGateKeeper : trying to mount windows shares08:01
cntbin grub how do I boot WINDOWS MANUALLY /dev/sda108:01
TheGateKeeperutab: you have a good system now?08:01
sethkgdb, tjat08:01
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utabTheGateKeeper:yes,08:01
sethkgdb, that's true, it is easy to forget to do it, if you turn off automatic checking08:01
Goshawkorbish: install ubuntu-desktop08:01
ircleuserWas it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?08:01
Elephantcntb: My solution at home is that /dev/hda is windows, /dev/hdb is Ubuntu, and I use the boot menu from the BIOS to select which HD boots08:01
gdbkyja: To be clear, I'm not a student, but that's a scenario I could see happening. ;-)08:01
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rhyddinLMAO08:01
ChuHmm, I was upgrading to dapper through the update manager, but it failed while calculating the upgrade. What should I do? :p08:01
sethkgdb, but that doesn't mean that a file system that doesn't have a check after some limit feature at all is better08:01
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orbishgoshawk thanks a ton08:01
utabTheGateKeeper : have you had experience with windows shares08:01
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kyjaI think I have a good set up =]  how ever I cant get it to play midi. I dont have the best multi media selection set up yet I guess08:02
Goshawkorbish: it will install gnome08:02
__boomerthe last systemupdate messed up libvte4, did anyone else experience the same problem08:02
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sethkElephant, that's fine, although it is easy to set up grub to boot either one08:02
rhyddinif everyone who caused a glitch got fired there would be no devs08:02
markie_markanyone seen this happen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20r0fi97.html08:02
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master0onxboxngon hr inne som kan hjlpa mig med skert ett simpelt problem men fr mig ett mysterium08:02
sethkrhyddin, that's quite true08:02
TheGateKeeperutab: a little but you might want to back your system up first: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup08:02
Goshawk!de08:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:02
Goshawkno it's not his language08:02
rhyddinstuff happens. roll with it.08:02
utabTheGateKeeper : why this is a simple operation08:02
master0onxboxOm jag fr detta medelande hur tgrdar jag det? i Synaptic08:02
TheGateKeeperutab: what exactly are you trying to do?08:02
master0onxboxE: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list08:03
master0onxboxE: Kllistan kunde inte lsas.08:03
master0onxboxG till frrdsdialogen fr att rtta till problemet.08:03
master0onxboxE: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list08:03
master0onxboxE: Kunde inte att lsa listkatalogen08:03
kyjagdb: I agree, at first I thought ... did not bother me.. then I thought of the two other lapptops I have here, that have a fraction of the hard drive but would tyake half the day to run the check lol08:03
Elephantyeah...when i tried to put grub on hda, it errored out and killed my ability to boot that drive08:03
Ash-Fox!nl08:03
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl08:03
gdbsethk: It means that this theoretical laptop is being checked on the user's schedule, rather after some arbitrary number of reboots which, for a desktop, doesn't matter.  For a laptop, it can be a showstopper (for the aforementioned reasons).  I'd rather boot up my laptop in my dorm and wait 5 for a check before homework, than wait 5 in class while the prof is talking and I want to be taking notes, but can't, due to an fsck.08:03
Ash-Fox!se08:03
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se08:03
KuprinAnyone for XMMS-midi? There's no package, but I KNOW XMMS can support MIDI files. I've seen it done in Gentoo and it's actually quite slick.08:03
sethkmarkie_mark, I see nothing wrong there08:03
Elephantnearly lost my win XP partition :(08:03
utabTheGateKeeper: followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently08:03
sethkgdb, Oh, I don't disagree08:03
ircleuserRhyddin: I wasn't saying they should be fired. I was just curious.08:04
master0onxbox>>> ubotu.. TACK THX08:04
sethkgdb, that's why I told him to use tune2fs to remove the automatic one08:04
markie_marksethk: the multiple tmpfs mounts on /var/lock and /var/run..08:04
gdbThere really is no ideal solution because when you're rebooting a machine, you're having to interact with the system, which means your time is wasted regardless.08:04
gdbYou just get to choose when that time is wasted. ;-)08:04
utabTheGateKeeper: the problem is that alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/files open the shared folder08:04
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sethkmarkie_mark, oh, yes, that will happen.  you can do multiple mounts on a mount point.  the last one wins.08:04
utabTheGateKeeper, but I can not mount them permanently08:04
sethkmarkie_mark, but it's a bad idea as umount then doesn't really umount08:04
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tuxtux_!kernel08:05
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:05
gdbsethk: Oh, you're responding to my suggestion of using a higher number.  I apologize for confusion, I went on to support a scheduled check after more discussion took place.08:05
markie_markit's just strange I've never seen it do that by itself..08:05
sethkgdb, yes, I agree08:05
markie_markokay - thanks for the feedback08:05
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sethkmarkie_mark, it's easy to provoke.  do two loopback mounts in a row to the same directory08:05
TheGateKeeperutab: you have modified fstab?08:05
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utabTheGateKeeper yes08:06
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Goshawkorbish: how are things going08:06
Goshawk?08:06
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NewUbuntuUserHello -- I just saw the link I needed08:06
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GoshawkNewUbuntuUser: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library08:06
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Goshawkoops sorry08:06
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Goshawkwrong paste08:06
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Stuttergart_Anyone else having terrible locale problems with Dapper?08:07
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utabTheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2141808:07
GoshawkNewUbuntuUser: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:07
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Stuttergart_perl: warning: Setting locale failed.08:07
GoshawkStuttergart_: yep08:07
Stuttergart_and so on08:07
tuxtheslackerhello.08:07
GoshawkStuttergart_: do you upgraded to edgy?08:07
brownieis 10.4 the fixed one?08:07
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Goshawkbrownie: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:07
Goshawkbrownie: yes08:08
Stuttergart_Goshawk: Have you been able to fix it?08:08
browniety08:08
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tuxtheslackerI updated xorg or xserver or something along those lines with the automatic updated, and now X breaks after I restarte08:08
PhoulHello is there a repo with pekwm in it08:08
GoshawkStuttergart_: sure, are you using dapper or edgy? did you upgraded/downgraded from one tho the latter?08:08
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bXituxtheslacker: read the topic08:08
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Goshawktuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:08
Stuttergart_Goshawk: Fresh install of dapper.08:08
knoppixwhat is that X breaking thing? what happens, it drops to console or it just hangs?08:08
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Goshawkok... gimme version of locales and libc508:08
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Goshawklibc608:08
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Goshawksorry08:09
Goshawki'm chatting in the dark08:09
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tuxtheslackeranyone?08:09
dravasWhats the app to install Mouse Icons08:09
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utabTheGateKeeper: zzzzzzzz ;)\08:09
bXituxtheslacker: you were given 2 answers just now08:09
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Goshawkknoppix: X doesn't recignize your screen you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:09
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Goshawktuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:09
NamShubheh08:10
tuxtheslackeranyone?08:10
TheGateKeeperutab: try without the credentials file just to get it started, once you have got it working move to using the file. What's with zzzzz?08:10
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tuxtheslackerthanks Goshawk08:10
Goshawktuxtheslacker: again... did you read  what i've said to you?08:10
NamShubI just wish I knew wether thats my problem or not :S08:10
xarqhow do I make ubuntu automatically detect and connect to favorite wireless network routers?08:10
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nahojhi, I really need some help, how do i patch in ubuntu? i have downloaded a file named acer.patch but i dont know what to do with it08:10
utabTheGateKeeper : I tried that before but will try for you again08:10
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Goshawkxarq: paly with network-manager08:11
Goshawks/paly/play/08:11
Goshawkstupid dark08:11
utabTheGateKeeper: you mean to put the user and pass directly08:11
Goshawkthe light button it too far :D08:11
kyjanahoj: that sounds kida suspitious08:11
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TheGateKeeperutab: correct no point using the file until you get this working08:11
nahojkyja, how come?08:11
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kyjanahoj: do you know specipicly what this does>08:11
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tarzan_hi08:12
tarzan_my fresh installed kubuntu 6.06.1 runs dosfsck on every boot to check my fat32 partition..without finding errors (chkdsk unter win32 doesn't find errors either).. any reason for thie behaviour?08:12
xarqGoshawk: are you sure network manager has the functionality for favorites?08:12
TheGateKeeperutab: you need to do things one step at a time, and debug so to speak as you go along08:12
nahojkyja, it has to do with my soundcard... https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=210408:12
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sk1dgecan anyone help me get my audio working in ubuntu?  i just installed it last night, and no audio...08:12
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kyjanahoj: well going by the old philosify of if it aint broke dont try to fix it I would hold off. especialy if you dont even know what the file is for08:12
kyjaoh sound card08:12
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Goshawkxarq: it's used to automatically connect with a wired cable or manage wireless connections, but it does not work with ndiswrapper08:12
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bluesignhi, anyone know nat2nat vnc solution for WIN-Linux?08:13
nahojkyja, i have no sound so i'm ready to try anything... :p08:13
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Goshawkbluesign: vnc from windows<-->linux?08:13
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utabTheGateKeeper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2141908:13
ulissehello08:13
KPhilosophysals08:13
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xarqGoshawk: I don't think network manager has the functionality to connect to favorite wireless routers if it can see them08:13
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utabTheGateKeeper errors08:13
KPhilosophyhello08:13
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bluesignGoshawk: yes08:14
kyjanahoj: ic =]  have you tried searching for acer inside of the synaptic pachage manager?08:14
ulissecan someonoe point me to a good asound.conf for a SB Live!24 on Dapper?08:14
KPhilosophy....08:14
Goshawkxarq: i think yes, see on google to eb sure08:14
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TheGateKeeperutab: seen that one before, when I was trying to mount my hard disk on a live cd08:14
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kyjawich reminds me. I cant still for some reason find a way to play midi. its that or all these carioki midi files suck =] 08:14
tuxtheslackerthanks guys!08:14
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sk1dgeis everyone here trying to get their audio working?08:15
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utabTheGateKeeper :good news then or08:15
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nahojkyja, no results that matters...08:15
bluesignGoshawk: any idea?08:15
tuxtheslackershit... now I have it using compiz... I really don't wanna use compiz hahahahha!08:15
xevil!topic08:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:15
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dimblesCan anyone direct me to information about LVM in Ubuntu?08:15
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Goshawkbluesign: just install thightvnc on windows and vino for ubuntu08:15
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kyjanahoj: oh.08:15
utabdimbles google08:16
bluesignGoshawk: does it do nat2nat/08:16
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CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?08:16
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TheGateKeeperutab: try from the cli --> mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL08:16
Goshawkbluesign: then you need a viewer, it' in applications--->internet--->terminal server client08:16
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Goshawkbluesign: what do you mean for ant3nat?08:16
harisundbluesign: what do you mean by nat2nat?08:16
Goshawknat2nat08:16
utabTheGateKeeper what is cli--> ...08:16
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TheGateKeeperutab: terminal08:17
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bluesigngoshawk, harisund: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/nat2nat.html08:17
TheGateKeeper!cli > utab08:17
nahojkyja, well, i have found this patch https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2378 and they say that it helped them... but i cant figure out what to do with it... i guess everyone thinks its pretty obvious, lika asking for the start-menu in windows08:17
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jorgpanyone know of any good free webchat servers/clients that support audio?08:17
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TheGateKeeperutab: start terminal and type: mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL08:17
amee2khow do i re-run the automatic X configuration?08:18
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harisundbluesign if I am not much mistaken, every NAT must connect through a gateway, and if you forward the required ports on the gateway any VNC should work just fine.08:18
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harisundamee2k: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg08:18
GUIPEnguincan you add packages to the ubuntu installation via ubuntu cdroms, or does everything have to be downloaded via the internet with its package manager?08:18
harisundamee2k: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root08:18
knapperHello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?08:18
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bluesignharisund: yep. i know but i need to connect without modifying gateway :(08:18
harisundGUIPEnguin:  you can add through CDrom. Just execute 'sudo apt-cdrom add' and then you can apt-get update08:18
VletIs there any way to automatically ban an ip in the firewall after a given number of failed ssh login attempts?08:18
xarqknapper: alsa-mixer08:18
Goshawkbluesign: yep08:18
Goshawkbluesign: you should configure your router for that08:19
amee2kharisund: ty :)08:19
utabTheGateKeeper : without types and other options08:19
pibarnasHi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.08:19
xarqer, I mean alsamixer08:19
TheGateKeeperutab: correct08:19
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bluesigngoshawk: kk thanks anyway08:19
utabTheGateKeeper: still the same08:19
lamegopibarnas, you must have missed the driver required for your network card...08:20
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kyjanahoj: I am looking08:20
Goshawkbluesign: the simplest way is to modify the router, you can use that NH host08:20
Rookie-Vlet - you have to write a script with "if" and then so it will write in your firewall and restart the firewall ....08:20
amee2kwhat is the difference between the "nv" and "nvidia" X server drivers?08:20
pibarnasnope, it's loaded. I see it with lsmod.08:20
nahojkyja, thx!!08:20
TheGateKeeperutab: won't mount? you get an error message?08:20
Traehow can I turn off psmouse permanently?  I don't want that module to load at boot.  I tried editing the blacklist file and doing:  blacklist psmouse08:20
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Traethat didn't work08:20
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GUIPEnguinharisund: so for a dialup user, my friend could install all the stuff he needs, like mplayer, etc, from the cdroms once downloaded?08:20
utabTheGateKeeper :the same message on the paste bin08:20
bluesigngoshawk: actually nh host is a good idea but I could not find client for linux08:21
VletRookie-: That's what I started doing, but I thought I'd check for a built-in solution first; Thanks08:21
harisundGUIPEnguin: well, I don't know if the CDROM has mplayer. Wait, what kind of a CDROM are you talking about? I was assuming the CDROM was an Ubuntu installation CDrom?08:21
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harisundGUIPEnguin: do you mean you want to copy some packages into a CD, and then install the packages from that CD?08:21
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Goshawkbluesign: look in google: vnc connection under router/nat08:21
Rookie-Easyer way would be to have  amailfunction and then write the ip manually ... mailfunction could be by 24 hours08:21
bluesigngoshawk: thanks08:21
TheGateKeeperutab: can you get to the share from konqueror?08:21
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kyjanahoj: its asking me for user name and pass =]  I thought I could read about this file08:22
utabTheGateKeeper : alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/pool gets me there08:22
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?08:22
GUIPEnguinharisund: I was wondering if ubuntu included like, say 5 disks with tons of packages on it like debian...that you could install off the cd without doing an online apt-get08:22
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harisundGUIPEnguin: Well, there are DVDs with lots more from the repositories I think. In that case, yes... you will be able to do what you have in mind.08:23
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SKossuah what was the command to get the kernel sources installed? :S08:23
utabTheGateKeeper : the same is true for konquerer also08:23
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kyjanahoj: you could try running it in bash. open terminal and cd to the location its in and then type the filename08:23
harisundGUIPEnguin: the thing is, if you want to apt-get from a CDrom instead of the internet, the CDrom's contents must be structured in the same way that the internet repositories are structured. You can't copy a bunch of files into a CD and expect apt to install it from such a CD08:23
nahojkyja, just log in as a guest =)08:23
kyjaok08:24
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GUIPEnguinharisund: I understand08:24
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harisundSKossu: I think the kernel sources package goes something like linux-sources-arch ... search for linux-sources using apt-cache.08:24
SKossuharisund: okay thanks08:24
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harisundSkossu I don't have immediate access to my Ubuntu box .. but apt-cache search linux-sources should give you enough information.08:24
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TheGateKeeperutab: try sudo mount //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  subtituting the correct username & password08:25
xarqit's linux-source, not sources08:25
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utabTheGateKeeper : done that before but lets try08:25
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treitteris it possible to do a server install from the Desktop CD, or do I need to burn a server CD?08:26
tepus6dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)08:26
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Goshawktreitter: you can do a desktop install and then modify it to have a server08:26
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harisundtreitter: it is not. With a desktop cD you will directly go into the desktop08:26
harisundtreitter: once you install the entire package, you can remove whatever you don't want ...08:27
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Warboharisund: Not very useful for low disk space systems :)08:27
utabTheGateKeeper it is wrong it must start with sudo mount -t smbfs ..08:27
treitterGoshawk, harisund: thanks!08:27
utabTheGateKeeper it also does not work08:27
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harisundutab what are you trying to  mount?08:27
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utabharisund: samba shared folders08:28
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utabTheGateKeeper : this is also not responsive08:29
newubuhi all08:29
harisundutab does the folder being shared exist on Windows or Linux08:29
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newubudoes anyone here use listen with an ipod?08:29
agraupeI'm having a problem with my wifi card.  iwscan list works fine, and I can see the network I want to connect to.  I have set the key as given to me, but dhclient fails to obtain an IP address.  any ideas what I could try?08:29
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utabharisund Linux probably08:29
tepus6dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)08:29
Goshawkagraupe: ndiswrapper drivers?08:29
Luc1How view files(jpg, mp3, avi......) on remote Samba sources without copy them to local disk?08:29
utabharisund : because the server is a linux server08:29
harisundutab ah ok ....08:29
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Goshawktepus6: google can help you this is ubuntu related channel08:30
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ArchimedesHEY GUYS08:30
Luc1I install smbclient.08:30
newubudoes anyone how to use and ipod with listen?08:30
ArchimedesI HAVE A QUESTION.08:30
ArchimedesI SURE DO08:30
ArchimedesI LOVE THE IPOD''08:30
GoshawkArchimedes: don't scream!08:30
Rookie-LOL @nahoj08:30
lcddLuc1: you need smbmount08:30
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ArchimedesOH, SORRY.08:30
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ArchimedesI DIDN'T MEAN TO SCREAM.08:30
liran_is mplayer and mozilla-mplayer available in universe/multiverse?08:30
tepus6Goshawk, Im using ubuntu but i can find any ubuntu packages with any openmosix support at all08:30
GoshawkArchimedes: if you sream we will ban you08:30
ArchimedesI'LL TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK.08:30
ArchimedesOKAY, THANKS.08:30
Warbonahoj: Rubik cubes are easy. As long as you have Ubuntu to solve it for you :)08:30
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ArchimedesTHANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, GOSHAWK08:31
Chousuke:P08:31
Rookie-caps ????08:31
GoshawkArchimedes: stop!08:31
ArchimedesOKAY, I'M TURNING IT OFF RIGHT NOW!08:31
Goshawktepus6: wait i'm googleing for you08:31
Chousuke!ops08:31
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!08:31
ArchimedesHey guys.08:31
rhyddinwtf08:31
TheGateKeeperutab: try this don't know if it will get you any further http://jason.379.com/node/3208:31
ArchimedesI have a question for you freaks.08:31
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rhyddinnut08:31
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ArchimedesThat wasn't nice.08:32
ArchimedesAnyway.08:32
agraupeGoshawk: no, I'm using the drivers for my broadcom BCM4318 as given in the ubuntu wiki08:32
GUIPEnguinwhere can I download ubuntu package cds?   or could I use debian package cds?08:32
kyjanahoj: they say you fix the same way as acl260 but I cant find alot of info about that that is straight forward. still looking08:32
GoshawkArchimedes: i think that you are not so clever like the man that had your name in the 5 bc08:32
Luc1lcdd: Is possible that with Places->Network servers->network Windows?08:32
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ArchimedesThat's a fallacious observation, Goshawk08:32
Goshawkagraupe: you lucky.. i have teh same card and i had to use ndiswrapper08:33
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nahojkyja, you are my hero!08:33
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WarboGUIPEnguin: The alternative CDs contain the base system's packages. I think there are some people trying to put Universe on CD, but I don't know where to find them08:33
villmowI am having trouble with my ubuntu system after the last upgrade08:33
agraupeGoshawk: well, if yours actually works, you are more lucky than me08:33
TraeHmmm, even Google isn't providing me with much in the way of trying to figure out how to keep psmouse from loading at boot.08:33
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Goshawkagraupe: i'm connected with it08:33
GUIPEnguinWarbo: so I cant get cds with all the packages on them like debian?08:33
GUIPEnguininsted of using apt-get08:33
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villmowmy secondary monitor resolution is wrong and the kcontrol display module is givinng me an error saying that something is conflicting with it, anyone willing to help me solve the problem?08:34
Luc1lcdd: ok I try smbmount. Thanks for intrest.08:34
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newubuDOEs anyone how to use and ipod with listen?08:34
WarboGUIPEnguin: Not ALL of the packages, just the ones used in a regular Ubuntu default system. As for the Universe ones (which I assume would include the whole thing) I am not sure, you may have some luck in the forums08:34
janbananI have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?08:34
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newubudoes anyone know how to use and ipod with listen?08:34
nahojnewubu, don't spam08:34
synicnewubu: did you install python-gpod ?08:35
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WarboGUIPEnguin: You can always make your own CDs of packages, but I forget the tools used to do it08:35
kyjanahoj: but just thinking... have you tried "applications>sound and videa>volume control panel ? there is a pc speaker slider there that was not enabled by default08:35
argumenthow do I take a screenshot?08:35
newubunahoj, sorry was correcting the phrase08:35
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jpjacobshit printscreen ;)08:35
argumentCTRL-PrtScn usually works in Windows08:35
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newubusynic, not sure...08:35
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Warboargument: press the print screen button, look in Applications>Accessories or use GIMP's "File>Aquire"08:35
Goshawkargument: it works in ubuntu too08:35
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synicnewubu: dpkg -l | grep gpod08:35
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npsterHow do I move a file in terminal ?08:35
jpjacobsmv08:35
synicnpster: mv08:35
kyjanahoj: and if that app is not there in the menu right click and choose edit menu and select sound and video and check the box on that so its in the menu.08:36
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argumentcool, got it08:36
jpjacobsha first ;p08:36
Warbonpster: "mv file newlocation"08:36
villmowdoes anyone know what package conflicts with the kcontrol display module?08:36
Goshawktepus6: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/10703 is in spanish08:36
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ubuntunabbIve tried to get a SMP working kernel going, from both the ubuntu repositories, and vanilla from kernel.org. when I use one from the reps. The machine wont respond at all, and with the kernel.org one, 3 of my hdds connected to the onboard promise raid doesnt work. someone knows something about this?08:36
TheGateKeeperutab: if that doesn't work have a look at this documentation: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/08:36
npsterok08:36
newubusynic, nop08:36
newubusynic, neede?08:36
newubusynic, needed?08:36
tepus6Goshawk, thank you...08:36
synicnewubu: if you want to use listen with your ipod, then yes.08:36
nahojkyja, checking..08:36
newubusynic, thanks, gonna try08:36
TheGateKeeperutab: you have either got a connection problem, permissions problem or syntax not sure which08:37
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agraupeGoshawk: do you have any idea how to use the proper bcm43xx driver?08:37
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Shin_Goukihello!08:37
nahojkyja, everything is on max... i have been trying to fix this for about a week and i cant think of anything "normal" i have not tried...08:37
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Goshawkagraupe: sure, use system--->administration--->networking to configure and use the card08:37
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TheGateKeeperutab: got to run hope you get it sorted08:38
nahojkyja, this patch seems to be my last hope08:38
Shin_Goukiwhre can i fin ubuntu 6.06 live CD download? i just found edubuntu live -CD? is the "normal" desktop CD also live CD?08:38
Goshawkagraupe: if you don't find it there, you should load the bcm43xx module (but it think it should be loaded yet)08:38
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utabTheGateKeeper: one minute08:38
kyjanahoj: ok. mine had an x at the bottom and I had to click it.08:38
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kyjanahoj: ok I continue to research08:38
GoshawkShin_Gouki: wait08:38
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ivxhey i don't know anything about the amd turion 64 processor. would the 64 bit version support this chip/08:38
nahojkyja, no x:s here... =)08:39
nahojmaybe anyone else knows a bit or two about patching?08:39
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GoshawkShin_Gouki: are you from jp?08:39
ks-bash: /opt/lampp/tomcat/bin/startup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy08:39
dimblesis there any way of installing over the top of fedora (LVM partitions) and keeping my home folders?08:39
WarboDoes anyone know of issues with ra61 driver? (RaLink wifi card) It works on the live CD, but crashes my installed system08:39
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janbananI have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?08:39
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> just my nick , im from germany08:39
Warbodimbles: To use LVM you need the alternate CD08:39
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> u got a link?08:39
kyjanahoj: so even as computer boots you dont get the startup sound? I know there are alot of media typed ubuntu just does not play at default.08:39
exmethixhey @ all08:39
nahojkyja, no sound output what so ever...08:40
kyjaand still after all the codec I have installed I cant play midi :/08:40
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exmethixdoes somebody know how to minimize xchat into the systemtray?08:40
dimblesWarbo: which is the alternate cd?08:40
kyjak08:40
GoshawkShin_Gouki: getting the link from your country08:40
nahojkyja, same with suse08:40
GoshawkShin_Gouki: http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/6.06/08:40
utabTheGateKeeper: no08:40
Warbodimbles: It uses text mode, it is listed on releases.ubuntu.com (current release is Dapper)08:40
npsterhow do I play .asx files. I installed totem but it doesn't work ?08:41
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> ? still theres no "live" in image titel , so i have to chose desktop?08:41
GoshawkShin_Gouki: choose desktop cd08:41
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Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> ok, then burn as image and rest will work fine?08:41
metromhi, I've just installed ubunto server 6.06 LAMP, how do I easily install a desktop UI?08:41
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jpjacobsnpster, totem sucks... try mplayer or xine (or totme-xine)08:41
GoshawkShin_Gouki: in dapper desktop installs from live cd08:41
_X_eek, my xserver borked to day for some reason08:41
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Ash-Foxmetrom, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:41
_X_fglrx doesnt work, vesa doesnt work...08:42
dimblesWarbo: so the alternate cd wouldn't have been shipped to me08:42
metromahh. thanks.08:42
GoshawkShin_Gouki: burn the desktop cd, it's live and you can install ubuntu if you want just clicking an icon08:42
_X_I just get the blue screen with the "x wont start, do you want to view error output" dialog08:42
Warbodimbles: No, only the "desktop CD" gets shipped08:42
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_X_I think I installed some new updates today08:42
npstertnx08:42
GoshawkShin_Gouki: breezy had live cd and installation cd, now it's all in one: desktop cd08:42
Ash-Fox_X_, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:42
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_X_Ash-Fox, thanks a million :)08:43
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> thx , good to know :)08:43
Ash-FoxNo problem.08:43
untungHi, how can I activate chinese input in ubuntu?08:43
GoshawkAsh-Fox: i'm helping the 35th, you? :D08:43
Ash-FoxGoshawk, I've lost count :P08:43
dimblescheers all, bye08:43
looktjlol08:43
looktjnoone perfect08:44
Goshawkuntung: look for canna if i'm not wrong08:44
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marshall_is there any way to reset all wine defaults?08:44
Genz00can i install ubuntu without cdrom drive?08:44
Genz00i have .iso08:44
untungGoshawk: what is canna?08:44
npsterwhy doesn't wine works with me ???08:44
Ash-FoxGenz00, yes.08:44
Warbomarshall_: You can remove the .wine directory and it will be recreated next time you start wine (that will remove everything you have installed in wine as well)08:44
Goshawkyep untung canna is A Japanese input system (server and dictionary).08:44
Genz00Ash-Fox how?08:44
GoshawkCanna supports Nemacs, Mule, kinput2 and canuum.08:45
marshall_Warbo:  ok08:45
Ash-FoxGenz00, well, you can boot the ISO off the network using PXE-boot08:45
npsterjpjacobs: are you sure that mplayer will work08:45
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> IMO still there should some kind of "hint" that live cd is "normal" desktop... if it stand on the download side i wouldn't have need to ask ;)08:45
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Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> still tank u very much :O08:45
mbassmarshell_: try 'mv .wine old.wine' -- use mv so that you can restore if anything goes wrong or there is actually stuff you want to keep.08:45
stefannabend.08:45
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Mintycan I install a 64 alongside a 32 bit version ??08:45
jpjacobsnpster, mplayer works for me... and with w32codecs, it can cope with about anythig you'll ever meet...08:46
newubusynic, thanks man08:46
GoshawkShin_Gouki: i had the same trouble when i downloaded it in june :D08:46
Ash-FoxMinty, create seperate partitions.08:46
Genz00Ash-Fox i have iso on hd >_>08:46
Warbombass: I should have said that really. It is what I always advocate :)08:46
Genz00i need download again?08:46
Ash-FoxGenz00, so?08:46
agraupeGoshawk: any idea why I would be able to scan, but unable to connect or ping?08:46
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MintyAsh-Fox: i just do a install from the cd rom ISO ??? and create a partition ??08:46
Ash-FoxGenz00, no. You need to run SFTP, and DHCP on another computer to be able todo a network boot.08:46
GoshawkAsh-Fox: 36th :D (i'm doing like the ewel and the gnome in the lord of teh ring :D )08:47
untungI have SCIM input in my ubuntu08:47
stefantoday i installed some patch called something like "...core...intel...xorg". now x dont want to start anymore... means my old xorg.conf doesnt work. has somebody an idea how to fix that?08:47
Goshawk!jp08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
Goshawkwhat? is there not a japan channel?08:47
Ash-Foxstefan, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:47
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janbananWhere can I find info on how to install XGL. Need basic instructions08:47
untungIME engine is there with chinese input. how to activate the keyboard?08:47
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untungGoshawk  I need chinese input not japanese08:48
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Warbo!xgl > janbanan08:48
mbassWarbo: I'm surprised I remembered... (I have automatic backups running, which makes me too blase about such commands as rm)08:48
Shin_Gouki<Goshawk> cya arround :)08:48
GoshawkShin_Gouki: ok08:48
wikijeffIs it possible to give the GNOME volume control, date and time, and window list panels a completely transparent background??08:48
stefanthank u a lot ash-fox.. i will try that.08:49
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Goshawkuntung: what's the 2 letters that identify your country?08:49
Goshawks/'s/are08:49
looktjexample US08:49
Ash-FoxMinty, Genz00, it's far easier connecting a cdrom than setting up a network boot etc.08:49
untungCH08:50
Goshawkuntung: ca if i'm not wrong08:50
MintyAsh-Fox: please Do I install the 64 version from the ISO cd and will it add to the existing grub ??08:50
Goshawkah ch08:50
Goshawk!ch08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
Warbowikijeff: Not really. The only compromise would be to use a composite manager (xcompmgr, compiz, etc.) and make the whole panel translucent (but making it 100% translucent would make the text disappear too)08:50
untungchina08:50
b_how can I view my MAC address?08:50
Ash-FoxMinty, yes, if you install it on a seperate partition.08:50
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wikijeffWarbo: that's sad, my computer can't run a composite manager at a reasonable speed08:50
lamegob_, ifconfig08:50
MintyAsh-Fox: I can make the partion during the installion ?? eys08:50
Mintyyes08:51
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WarboMinty: I would install GRUB onto a partition instead, so the two GRUBs don't conflict. Then you can "chinaload" the second GRUB from the first (the same way Windows is loaded from GRUB)08:51
vgtlHi. Does anybody know the correct module for Apple fan support (PowerBook 17 inch 2006) ?08:51
Warbo*chainload08:51
Goshawkuntung: sorry it seems that there is not any chinese support channel.. i don't know how to help you08:51
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madmaxhello... i have a little problem... i remember installing gcc-3.4 for something i needed to compile... and i did... but now i need to compile something else and i don't have a "gcc" binary anywhere in the path (not even root's)... only a gcc-3.408:51
MintyAsh-Fox: have alraedy a windows grub as have a win partion08:52
mbassb_: use command 'ifconfig' in a terminal, your MAC address should be marked HWaddr08:52
looktjmadman: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:52
Goshawkuntung: [Obsolete]  Chinese input server (GB) for Crxvt in X11.08:52
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looktjoops08:52
looktjsorry08:52
Warbomadmax: /usr/bin/gcc is a soft link to whichever version you use, you could recreate that link to point to gcc-3.4 (or install 4.0)08:52
Goshawkuntung: look for xcin 2.5.x or chinput 3.x08:52
madmaxwhat's weird is that i looked in synaptic and i have 3.3, 3.4, and 4.0 installed now... and no gcc binary... only a gcc-3.408:52
Ash-FoxMinty, whatever?08:52
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amonbishinterest08:52
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madmaxoh... ok08:53
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madmaxthanks08:53
PPowerGoshawk: Back again, its all working, want to see?08:53
babis85hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?08:53
untungok08:53
GoshawkPPower: yep08:53
gidimYou'll never guess what happened to me. :D08:53
Goshawkuntung: GTK+2 based input method platform for Chinese users ---> install gcin08:53
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looktjgidim: What?08:54
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PPowerGoshawk: See your message08:54
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kvossenI get an SHPC: cannot reserve MMIO region error during boot-time hardware detection. Any idea what might be causing this?08:54
GoshawkPPower: should i log in? :D08:54
PPowerif you want08:54
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GoshawkPPower: ssh or vnc?08:55
PPowertry both08:55
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gidimI downloaded the Ubuntu 32-bit to make the switch from 64-bit until the support is there, and during the reformat of hda1 it locks at 14%, I wait... and wait... finally I cancel and reboot to try again, hda1 is no longer detected. ^^;;08:55
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kyjanahoj: they say this is as easy as finding windows start lol08:55
dereksiversAnyone else download the automatic update : xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3_i386.deb yesterday?  xorg won't work at all since the update.  says "no screens found".08:55
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kyjanahoj: they dont make useing this vary clear.08:56
gidimSo I kinda have no OS but the Live CD now... well, either Live CD.08:56
Wandererdereksivers: do a refresh and re-update08:56
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Wandererthe fix is on the servers08:56
kyjanahoj: still hunting08:56
WarboMinty: What I meant was that you already have GRUB on your MBR (master boot record), and that is being controlled by the Ubuntu you have installed. Installing a new one there would mess up whenever you installed a new kernel, since both Ubuntu's would fight for control over it. If you add the second GRUB to a partition instead then you can put a single chainloader entry into the GRUB you have already. Basically your boot menu08:56
lamegodereksivers, read the topic...08:56
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nahojkyja, no, they just assume everyone knows what to do...08:56
dereksiversWanderer: refresh?08:56
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nahojkyja, looking as well, off course..08:56
dereksiverslamego: what topic?08:56
PPowerGoshawk: Just dont do anything nasty08:56
looktjDereksivers: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade08:57
GoshawkPPower: i can't conect with vnc08:57
GoshawkPPower: tryin ssh08:57
dereksiverslooktj: ah. ok. thank you.08:57
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PPowerGoshawk: What happens with vnc?08:57
looktjno problem08:57
klm-Where can I get the newest and proper flash support for Mozilla?08:57
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MintyWarbo: sorry thats a little complicated for me, how do I chain load ??08:58
PPowerklm-: www.adobe.com08:58
klm-I installed a lib via apt but it seems very buggy08:58
GoshawkPPower: pop-corn LOL!08:58
GoshawkPPower: are you working on an OS?08:58
WarboMinty: "chainloading" basically means that one bootloader gives up control to another. The way GRUB hands over control to the WIndows bootloader. If you look at the Windows entry for GRUB then just copy that, but change the name and the partition it points to08:58
PPowerGoshawk: Yes, with some friends of mine, we need help bad08:59
GoshawkPPower: good08:59
GoshawkPPower: monokernel o microkernel?08:59
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kyjanahoj: but did you try running this? like haveing it on the desktop and doing sudo ~/Desktop/acer.patch08:59
Warboklm-: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"08:59
PPowerGoshawk: Eh? Why good? Plus, what error did vnc spew?08:59
PPowerGoshawk: Micro08:59
MintyWarbo: thanks will look into this a little more as scared that I will screw it all up08:59
GoshawkPPower: interesting08:59
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otroeanGot an Asus W1V with built in subwoofer. After installing Ubuntu Dapper only the stereo speakers work.08:59
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PPowerGoshawk: It seems the multiblock code is currently broken, it switches to block -bigsmall number here09:00
nahojkyja, command not found...09:00
GoshawkPPower: i'm trying to do something like that... in D programming language09:00
PPowerGoshawk: Whats D09:00
gidimSo um... I'll just go tinker with my box, see if I can get my drives to detect.09:00
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GoshawkPPower: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/09:00
PPowerGoshawk: Want to help us? We use C and Assembly09:01
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GoshawkPPower: i'm seeing the code right now09:01
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GoshawkPPower: is it your desktop or server?09:01
PPowerGoshawk: VMware09:01
WarboMinty: I would say to just install Ubuntu like normal, but then install GRUB to your new / partition, then boot back into your old Ubuntu system and reinstall GRUB to the MBR (installing to a partition is like installing to /dev/hda1, rather than installing to the MBR which is like /dev/hda). After that just add a new entry to your old Ubuntu's /boot/grub/menu.lst file09:01
Goshawkah :D09:01
claviolaD:09:01
Goshawktime to go people.. my dinner is on the table09:02
Goshawksee you tomorrow09:02
PPowerOk, bye!09:02
Goshawkbye all09:02
babis85hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?09:02
tuxtux_ciao09:02
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argumentwhat's the difference between using the "Postscript (recommended)" driver named Standard and the "regular" one named HPLIJ ?09:02
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nahojkyja, i am on to something here...09:03
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ntollhas the xorg breakage been fixed yet?09:03
nahojkyja, the guys in the #alsa proved to be helpfull. following their guide now..09:03
argumenti've got an HP LaserJet 3050 - is the HPLIJ driver postscript based? what's the diff?09:03
npsterIs there a application for making animations ???09:03
klm-Warbo: which repository is it in?09:03
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holycow*hmmm*09:03
argumentnpster, you can make animations with The GIMP09:03
MintyWarbo: ok what will hapen at the first reboot seing that I will have '2' grubs 1 mbr with old grub and the new one, will I be able to choose, or will the machine just get confused09:04
argumentnpster, e.g. animated gifs09:04
highcan someone help me locate 2.6.15-20 flight kernel or the disc itself.  i cant seem to find an old ubuntu archive09:04
Warboklm-: multiverse09:04
Thunderpantsntoll, apt-get update and check its 10.4 and not 10.309:04
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ntollThunderpants, thanks09:04
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Thunderpantsyw09:04
ntollits still saying 10.309:04
npsteryeah, but you will have to make every picture, argument09:04
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ntollI'll apt-get update09:04
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holycownautilus is requesting blank dvds and refuses to write to blank cds ... anyone seen this before?09:04
argumentnpster, oh, that requires heavy math iirc, and there are apps to do it, but i don't know what ones09:04
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WarboMinty: It should boot at least one of the systems fine, although I am not sure which. You can recover one system from within the other using chroot. If you get confused then just come back in here and ask09:05
npsterargumet: rephrase please09:05
ugaritcan someone help me with the removal of a package via dpkg?09:05
exsis there any really good fun, games for ubuntu?... The only ones available are the 2-2 puzzle ones. I was looking for a spaceship 2d game. or 3d game09:05
npsterargument: rephrase please09:05
argumentnpster, i heard you the first time09:05
argument:)09:05
tom123Hey guys - anyone able to help with a network-manager and vpn problem?09:05
holycowexs, open up synaptic and start installing09:05
IcemanV9ugarit: dpkg -r <package name>09:05
poningru!rhythmbox09:05
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:05
MintyWarbo: thanks loggin to try /me crosses his fingers09:05
holycowexs, there is an entire section for games09:05
argumentnpster, taking a skeleton model and defining joints and movement axes and stuff requires heavy math09:05
Warboexs: Spaceship game? Chromium, or if you are hardcore then Vegastrike09:05
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exsholycow:  i opened up add/remove.. haven't tried synaptic yet09:05
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argumentnpster, there are apps to do that but i don't know what ones09:06
pibarnasHi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.09:06
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Naoszeve-online runs great under cedega09:06
klm-Warbo: thanks! didn't have multiverse activated.09:06
ugaritIcemanV9:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21421 dpkg -r is getting errors09:06
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npsterDoes someone know any type of apps that me and argument talked about ?09:06
kaotpibarnas: probably your nic driver.  wireless or ethernet?09:06
tom123i have no vpn connection in the vpn connection list of network-manager09:06
Warboklm-: Well, you says that now, but that package didn't work for me :( I had to get a Debian one from somewhere (I forget where)09:06
pibarnasethernet one.09:06
pibarnasthe module is loaded on boot.09:07
kaotpibarnas: not anymore, I'm guessing :\   open a term and do ifconfig, see if it's there09:07
pibarnasI can ping my machine, but not the gateway...09:07
exsi downloaded the tuxmath for kids, expecting to be able to do fairly well since I am almost 20. I find it very, very hard.09:07
argumentnpster, freshmeat.net sourceforge.net and google all probably know better than most of us in here09:07
pibarnasYep, it's there.09:07
tom123hey - any idea out there?09:08
IcemanV9ugarit: it is not a package (with .deb extension) -- sudo aptitude remove clvm09:08
kaotpibarnas: what kind is it?09:08
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lamegokaot, please have in mind that he is using a kernel compiled by him....09:08
pibarnasIt's a pci one. I think tulip or dmfe... but both modules are loaded, as ocurred with old kernel config.09:08
kaotpibarnas: i mean what chipset09:09
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pibarnasoh, wait a minute...09:09
ugaritIcemanV9:  same problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2142209:09
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tom123help - i need H - E - L - P ;)09:09
pibarnasIt's a Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 40).09:09
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SKossuIm trying to patch my wireless driver but it gives this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. rt2500.ko failed to build! I tried installing Linux Source but same error comes. Anyone got any tips?09:10
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poningruSKossu: rt2500 should be included out of the box09:10
poningruit was for me09:10
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lupinethe driver works, but it's a year old09:11
babis85hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?09:11
IcemanV9ugarit: ok. you'll need to stop its service like sudo /etc/init.d/clvmd stop, then remove it.09:11
matkois xserver package already fixed?09:11
SKossuponingru yes it is, but I need to patch it for some features09:11
poningruah gotcha09:11
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poningruSKossu: wait is it the txpower feature?09:11
kaotpibarnas: did the tulip module load?09:11
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poningruif so dont do it...09:11
WarboSKossu: Is that RaLink?09:11
poningrunothing but trouble09:11
poningruWarbo: yeah09:11
SKossuWarbo: yes09:11
IcemanV9ugarit: i am not sure if clvmd is the correct spelling, but you know which one.09:11
pibarnasYep. the tulip mode is on.09:11
SKossuPoningru: no idea :P09:12
WarboAh, I am having problems with my card :(09:12
lupineSKossu: make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-38609:12
npsteris Blender good for animation creating ?09:12
poningruSKossu: what feature are you looking for?09:12
poningrunpster: yep09:12
IcemanV9npster: yes09:12
tom123anyone familiar with the nm-applet?09:12
ugaritIcemanV9: same problem! even after stopping it.09:12
SKossuponingru: packet injection :P09:12
kaotpibarnas: how about the dmfe module?  is that loaded?09:12
lupinetut tut :D09:12
poningruSKossu: hehe gotcha09:12
SKossulupine: alright thanks09:12
npsterit is enormous ?09:12
pibarnasIt's loaded too... :(09:12
kaotpibarnas: ah.  try rmmod'ing them both, modprobe dmfe, see if that helps09:12
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poningruanyone know how rhythmbox can be enabled to get music from shared stuff?09:13
kaotpibarnas: if so, blacklist the tulip module09:13
Warbonpster: I think it boasts at being less than 10MB09:13
lupinealternatively you can do "KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` make"09:13
poningrushouldnt it do it out of the box? like itunes?09:13
npsterwhat is rendering ?09:13
lupinecan you send me the link for the patch?09:13
drbashirHi, can windows read ext2 or 3 filesystems?09:13
Warbonpster: Erm, if you don't know that the nBlender may not be the tool for you :)09:13
lupinenot natively09:13
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IcemanV9ugarit: including -f (force)?09:13
lupinevarious 3rd party tools will set it up for you09:13
poningrudrbashir: nice nick ;) yes it can but only for ext2 iirc09:13
pibarnasI'll do that, thanks for your response!! Thank you very much. I'll try it.09:13
kaotponingru: you mean shared like with samba or something?09:13
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npsterdrbashir: NO09:14
kaotpibarnas: no problem09:14
ugaritIcemanV9: even with -f :-(09:14
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Warbonpster: rendering is when all of your models, lighting, actions, etc. get produced into an animation, frame by frame09:14
NemesisUKdrbashir, yes you can use ext2ifs works for ext3 and ext209:14
Warbodrbashir: Yes09:14
drbashirlupine, poningru, thx,09:14
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poningrudrbashir: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html09:14
drbashirwow, never had this much responce :P09:14
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poningrudrbashir: welcome to #ubuntu :)09:14
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FurryNemesissheesh, today was not a good day09:14
ablysswow.. nice to see xnest and xorg-server fixed.. i was two clicks away from reinstalling09:15
IcemanV9ugarit: hm. check if any of processes are still running or not via top or htop09:15
profoX`Ash-Fox: seems like it's more for the technical board, my proposal :)09:15
poningrulinux for human beings09:15
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FurryNemesisdid anyone else lose their comiz themes?09:15
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FurryNemesis*compiz09:15
IcemanV9woot! got my network printer to work! :)09:15
ablyssnot me Furry09:15
hadihow to install gtk themes from .deb packegs09:15
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poningrukaot: kinda, there is a protocol called daap that itunes uses to share music09:15
ablyssi been w/out total X usage as of last night, faulty upgrade09:16
poningrukaot: apperantly rhythmbox should support it09:16
hadihow to install gtk themes from .deb packegs?09:16
ugaritIcemanV9: none :-(09:16
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poningruhadi: dpkg -i foo.deb09:16
matkoquit09:16
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IcemanV9ugarit: and still can't remove it?09:16
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hadiok but how can i set it09:16
ugaritIcemanV9: that's right!09:17
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Azeraithwhy are there so many ppl in these rooms09:17
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drbashirCrap, I have a faulty hard drive. Its a read-only NTFS in a USB drive casing. Can I just switch it off while its trying to copy?09:17
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efren#ubuntu-es09:17
npsterBlender is cool, I like it!!!09:17
efrencual es el servidor espaol09:17
kjmAzeraith - because there a lot of people who want to learn, and more that want to help them.09:17
profoX`Okay, this is a hard one: I am working on a memory searching tool. I am trying to figure out how to search for a value in memory addresses of a certain process. I'm trying to develop this for an improved version of Knoppix|RE (reverse engineer live cd) -- any ideas ?09:17
msoulhadi: FluxBox?09:17
npsterefren: english only !09:17
andres_how do I go from 5.04 to 5.10?09:17
WarboAzeraith: Either a) Ubuntu is great, and it has loads of followers, or b) Ubuntu is terrible and everyone is having problems :)09:17
kaotdrbashir: I've heard that doing that can render you sterile and also kill your dog09:17
IdleOneefren, /join #ubuntu-es09:17
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kjmprofoX' - what language?09:18
ablyssAzeraith: because i'm popular ;P09:18
profoX`kjm: python.09:18
Azeraithhmmm09:18
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poningru!update > andres_09:18
IcemanV9ugarit: i'm out of options .. let me see if i could find more09:18
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Azeraithwhat's everyone talking about09:18
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profoX`kjm: but if you can give me advice of where to look that would be cool too.. I was thinking /proc/<pid> somewhere.. maybe make a hexdump there.. i dont know.. im clueless :)09:18
poningrudrbashir: no dont do that09:18
drbashirkaot, :O dont care about the dog, but I still planning to have kids a few years from now09:18
kjmprofoX' - eek.  Pointers are dynamic in terms of address space I think....not sure if you can extract the memory address using python09:19
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drbashirponingru, how do I force unmount it?09:19
kaotprofoX`: the system manager in gnome has a way you can check that, hang on I'll mess with it a second09:19
looktjany have bot power09:19
looktj!fix09:19
ugaritIcemanV9: syslog is showing  clvmd: Cannot login in to CCSD server even though clvmd and ccs are not running according to ps09:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
drbashirbecause its not canceling (my HD is ticking)09:19
kaotuh s/manager/monitor/ duh09:19
ablyssi think python does away w/ pointers... sort of c++ headache i believe09:19
profoX`kjm: kaot: thanks, I appreciate the help09:19
looktj!fix should be: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade09:19
hadimsoul: Gnome09:19
kjmprofoX' - What he said.....beyond my programming abilities.09:19
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SKossulupine: Tried what U suggested using ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 but didnt work :(09:19
Warbolooktj: I think that is already !xorgbugfix09:19
looktj!xorgbugfix09:20
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.09:20
kjmablyss : Well, you don't need to "deal" with pointers, but they are there.  Source of many bugs comes from the way python handles its namespace.09:20
kyjanahoj: I am sorry, I am looking on forrums also and this is not anything I can figure out :(09:20
kaotprofoX`: but you probably want something you can build into another program or script or something, I'm guessing.09:20
andres_poningru, thanks!09:20
looktjthat doesnt help newbies09:20
kjmablyss : difference between x = class<foo> and x = class<foo>()09:20
kjmfor example09:20
FurryNemesisbah I'll just wait for compiz to update09:20
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kaotprofoX`: anyway, if you're interested you can just open system monitor, right click on program name, memory maps.  if your skilled maybe you can dig at the system monitor sources to find the code to do it09:20
kjmprofoX' - look into the source for top.09:21
WiseProfitWhat the heck is Ubuntu?09:21
kjm!ubuntu09:21
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome09:21
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nahojkyja, as i said, the guys at #alsa are trying to help me as well...09:21
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babis85ubotu: hello, when i do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" after doing update the candidate version is still the 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.309:21
profoX`kaot: yea, but I'll do that part myself. I want to gather as much about the memory of a process as possible, because my prog will have to extract that stuff. I'll check the sysmonitor09:21
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zingoHi i have one question, if im using the same account that i created during the installation is that the root-account? So should i make a new 109:21
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kaotprofoX`: oh hey, how about /proc/$pid/maps09:22
WiseProfitTheir website looks pretty gnarly09:22
kjmzingo - no it is not the root account.  It is an account that has super user privvies when required through sudo09:22
drbashirponingru?09:22
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zingokjm: ok, thanks!09:22
kaotprofoX`: that seems to show memory address ranges09:22
Warbozingo: The first account created is in the admin group, which lets that user use the "sudo" command. New users are not in this group by default, but can be added to it09:22
zingoBut i can keep usingit for regular usage?09:22
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kjmzingo - absolutely.09:23
Warbozingo: Yes, it is a regular user account09:23
ablyssme and programming object coding dont mix.. i try and try and nothing sinks in09:23
profoX`kaot: yea I was alraedy looking in /proc/pid/ but its a bit chaossy there :) I'll check the map file09:23
zingoGreat. Thanks for your help guys09:23
kjmablyss - I know your pain.   I will forever be a procedural coder.09:23
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POVaddctzingo: if you want a user without sudo rights, don't put that user in the group "admin"09:23
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kjmablyss  - or at best a bad oo coder.09:23
ablysssome people talk it like they where born to speak it09:23
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zingoPOVaddct:  Alright09:24
poningruhuh?09:24
ablyssyou know them types kjm09:24
poningruwhat?09:24
kjmablyss - yes, very well.09:24
ablyssamazing peeps09:24
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lamegoablyss, OO is not about coding, is about OO thinking :)09:24
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ablysslamego, yes.. that's right09:25
kjmablyss - and they always state just what lamego just said :)  I just can't think in that way yet when structuring my programming tasks I guess.09:25
IcemanV9ugarit: i just looked thru forums. no post on uninstall/remove, only on install problem. :/09:25
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ugaritIcemanV9: thanks, I could't find anything on removal either :-(09:26
SKossuto create a make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 is  ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 the right command?09:26
ugaritIcemanV9:  I can't install anything because of this09:26
kaotSKossu: build not /build, and that's if you're in /usr/src/linux-headers-blahblah already09:27
kaotSKossu: and you've got it backwards09:27
FordPrefecthas anyone gotten the sound card on macbook pro to come out of suspend properly?  I managed to work around by reloading everything (kill all sound users, shutdown alsa-utils, unload all snd*, then go the other dir) but I was wondering if there was anything codewise out there?09:27
kaotSKossu: ln -s destination linkname09:27
SKossukaot: ah, im a jackass :P09:27
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kaotSKossu: eh I mess that up all the time too09:27
SKossukaot: first time im ever using Linux so, I guess im doing OK09:28
kaotSKossu: you seem to be, yes09:28
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Rosshow do i enable ssh in ubuntu (dapper drake)09:29
dravasWhats the app to install Mouse Icons09:29
erUSUL!ssh09:29
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/09:29
POVaddctRoss: apt-get install openssh-server   ?09:29
Rossi'll try it09:29
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RossPOVaddct, thanks for your help...09:29
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jvaihey peepz09:30
zingois it safe to use ubuntu without firestarter or any other firewall?09:30
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compotatojzingo: yes09:30
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zingocompotatoj: Thought so :-=09:30
NickGarveyzingo: I would say so, but a firewall would never hurt09:31
poningruNickGarvey: meh09:31
SKossukaot: it wont let me into the dir, says  Too many levels of symbolic links09:31
compotatojNickGarvey: its better not to have all the extra crap09:31
drbashirWhats a good (as in equivilent of Partition Magic) partitioning prog for ubuntu?09:31
npsterblender is pretty hard to work with09:31
POVaddctzingo: depends on which services you have runniung09:31
kaotyeh, you don't want to go and install something like samba or sshd and forget to turn on a firewall afterwards09:31
TobaI just put a tv capture card in my computer09:31
compotatojdrbashir: gparted09:31
poningrudrbashir: gparted09:31
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Tobawhat's the best player available for linux?09:31
drbashirthx both :)09:31
Tobathat will easily use the capture card09:31
poningruToba: vlc09:32
compotatojNickGarvey: firestarter is more for a router on a linux box09:32
poningruToba: or mplayer09:32
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zingoYeah, of course. I just wondered if there was like supergood to have a firewall.09:32
poningruToba: or totem09:32
NickGarveycompotatoj: mm.. I dunno I liked it09:32
sethkkaot, installing sshd doesn't imply any need for a firewall09:32
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dravasWhats the app to install Mouse Icons09:32
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compotatojNickGarvey: I tried it but it didn't work that well with my computer and I didn't need it anyways09:32
NickGarveyso is the xorgbug fixed?09:32
kaotsethk: should I point you at the old sshd security vulns and people freaking out about the 0day exploits?09:32
POVaddctzingo: learning to use iptables is the only firewall IMHO09:32
dravasWhats the app to install Mouse Icons09:32
ugaritIcemanV9:  where is the pre-remove script?09:32
sethkkaot, no, because they are nonsensical09:32
kaot...09:33
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zingoPOVaddct: oh09:33
NickGarveyyes ubotu says it has09:33
kaotok, I imagined boxes getting compromised because of that.09:33
kaotmy bad.09:33
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sethkkaot, certainly not with recent versions09:33
ugaritIcemanV9:  someone at #debian said: i've done this before but its not a nice thing to do.. but you could just kill clvm yourself then edit the pre-remove script its bitching about and change the exit 1 to exit 0 its failing on and it will remove for you09:33
POVaddctzingo: all other "firewalls" are just frontends to iptables09:33
sethkkaot, it's true people freaked out, but they didn't really get it.09:33
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kaotsethk: crap happens. if you don't understand that, you have no business giving anyone security advice.09:33
dravasWhats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons09:33
kaotno, they freaked out because they got owned.09:33
Toba><09:33
Tobahow do I tell mplayer to use my tuner card09:33
Tobaits interface blows09:33
orbishi've been up all night and i'm finally back up and running09:34
sethkkaot, I think you aren't really understanding what happened.09:34
kjmcan someone recommend a decent vnc viewer?09:34
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dravasWhats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons09:34
IcemanV9ugarit: interesting. more work to remove it!09:34
hawkaloogiekjm, tightvncviewer09:34
SKossukaot: Did it, though it says creating symbolic link `/build' to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386': File exists09:34
kjmhawkaloogie : thanks09:35
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NickGarvey!xorgbug > Rusty109:35
sethkSKossu, make sure that /build actually points there09:35
Warbo!info gcursor09:35
NickGarvey!mp309:35
ubotugcursor: gnome cursor theme managing software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.061-ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB09:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:35
IdleOne!xorgbugfix09:35
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.09:35
NickGarveyeek sorry09:35
sethkSKossu, that error will happen when /build exists, regardless of where /build points09:35
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SKossusethk: okay, cos it doesnt work correctly atm :P09:35
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dravasWhats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons09:36
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zarstarehm09:36
NickGarveydravas: what do you mean?09:36
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Warbodravas: Look up at what ubotu said09:36
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zarstarcould i've killed the "superuser"?09:36
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sethkSKossu, ls -l on the link will show you what it points to09:37
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zingoI just rebooted my computer and noticed that in my GRUB-List i had new entries.. Ubuntu-xxxx-k8. Somethnig that came when i installed gfx.drivers. Is that normal and how can i make that list to just Ubuntu and Windows09:37
Tobaif hardware shows up in lspci, that means I have drivers, right?09:37
Tobait has a description and everything09:38
NickGarveyzingo: thats your old kernel, incase something breaks09:38
void^Toba: no.09:38
Warbok8 is AMD, I think maybe 64bit?09:38
SKossusethk: thanks saved me some googling time :)09:38
Tobano?09:38
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NickGarveyzingo: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the entry for the new kernel though09:38
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sethkzarstar, unlikely09:38
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zingoNickGarvey: Ok. So the newest Kernel is always at the top?09:38
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NickGarveyzingo: should be09:38
Warboyes09:38
zingoAlright, thanks again09:38
NickGarvey:)09:38
Warbozingo: Unless you mess around with /boot/grub/menu.lst09:39
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zingoWarbo: havn't touched that one yet09:39
zingo:)09:39
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jvaii nko 1 thing, java is a pain to get working!09:40
legindhello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it09:40
haasteemhi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...09:40
phreakyshi09:40
legindany ideas?09:40
phreakysany way to get java working on ubuntu?09:40
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SKossusethk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src         6 2006-08-22 22:17 linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 -> /build         no idea if thats correct :S09:40
Sapakihi i can't configure my d-link dwl 122 to ubuntu 5.10 any ideas09:40
void^!java09:40
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:40
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NickGarveySapaki: what is not working?09:40
NickGarveySapaki: is that a wireless card or a wired ethernet card?09:41
Sapakiwireless usb card, the OS won't recognize it09:41
drbashirWhat is a good filechecking program?09:41
NickGarveyphreakys: I suggest the program "easyubuntu" to help with starting java09:41
Warbodrbashir: checking?09:41
NickGarveydrbashir: fsck?09:41
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AcidfkWhat's the model of the card?09:41
drbashiror rather, a filesystem checker, and maybe even a disk repairer (as in it can repair/mark bad clusters)09:42
mhminai\QUIT09:42
drbashirI think my HD is dying though09:42
Rossanyone know how to turn a usb wireless card into an access point, or let a windows pc access the internet through my ubuntu box wirelessly?09:42
NickGarveydrbashir: man fsck09:42
Warbodrbashir: filesystem checker = fsck09:42
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WarboRoss: Making an access point can be tricky, and it depends on the card09:43
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Sapakiwhat do you mean what model, is dlink the model?09:43
WarboRoss: I know it works for prism2 cards09:43
POVaddctWarbo: using a atheros card for that makes it rather easy09:43
untung hi, how can i share a printer connected to ubuntu machine?09:43
RossWarbo, It's an old SMC 2662W v.3, I've tried through iwconfig to set the mode to master, using a bridge, but it said it 'failed'09:43
NickGarvey!samba > untung09:43
Rossnot sure what chipset it uses09:44
NickGarveyuntung: that should do it09:44
WarboBridging the connections might work (if you get Internet from eth0 and bridge it to your wireless)09:44
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untungNickGarvey: how can i set it up? i want xp machine use this printer09:44
ugaritIcemanV9:  solved it /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.prerm changed exit $? to exit 0 and it worked09:44
kyjanahoj: that is good to hear. I hope they can help =] 09:44
orbishi need a root password in order to use alsaconf?09:44
WarboWell I am getting a little out of my depth. I tried to do it a while ago, but I couldn't do it on my card09:44
orbishwtf?09:44
RossWarbo, that's what I tried, but the only modes it said it supported were 'managed', and 'ad-hoc', i think09:44
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NickGarveyuntung: try reading the link ubotu sent you09:45
Rosssame09:45
Warboorbish: alsaconf? I didn't think that was in Ubuntu09:45
SKossuwhy does it give this error: ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links          when trying to do ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build09:45
nemtarohi, is it possible to compile a package on x86_64 but have it use the 32bit libraries and/or run as a 32bit compilation?09:45
untungok09:45
NickGarveyorbish: alsa connects to your sound card which is a device.. so I would think so..09:45
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IcemanV9ugarit: terrific! :)09:45
NickGarveynemtaro: yes.. but.. its a little tricky if I recall09:45
Warbonemtaro: You can set the build architecture09:45
orbishwarbo: i just found it in /usr/sbin/alsaconf09:45
oconnore!ati09:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:45
NickGarveynemtaro: theres a command for it.. which Warbo might know09:45
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orbishNickGarvey: well the thing is, sudo doesn't find it09:45
Warboorbish: Well if it does exist then it is a system-wide hardware changing program, so obviously it needs sudo09:46
ugaritIcemanV9:  very dangerous though09:46
nemtaroWarbo, thanks, I'm trying to install a perl module which doesn't compile on x86_64, is there a gcc flag or something I can set so it would be compiled as a 32bit?09:46
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NickGarveyorbish: try sudo -i then run the command09:46
orbishok09:46
haasteemhi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...09:46
holycowdoes anyone know the reasoning behind not using the official openoffice icons in ubuntu dapper?09:46
WarboI know "./configure --arch=XXX" is usually an option for building programs09:46
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freedomspiritBonsoir09:46
IdleOne!fr09:47
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:47
freedomspiritoops Sorry09:47
IdleOneno problem09:47
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orbishNickGarvey: sudo -i alsaconf "No such file or directory"09:47
orbishhmm09:47
Warboholycow: I think it might just be a usability issue09:47
NickGarveyorbish: no, run "sudo -i" then run "alsconf"09:47
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orbishoh ok09:47
beniibHey - I have a wierd ubuntu networking problem: I cannot resolve web addresses unless I ping them first from a console. Anyone have any ideas?09:47
holycowWarbo, really? bizarre09:47
legindhello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it09:47
drbashirwhat FS does linux handle best if the disk the FS is on is probably partly broken?09:47
Chu...This is terribly pathetic, but I seem to have trouble running a shell script. :/09:47
Sapakid-link doesn't offer any adaptors for unix09:48
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Warboholycow: Well, I am pretty sure the icons are Free, but I would recognise a piece of paper as a word processor more than a green wavy box with seagulls09:48
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holycowWarbo, disagree09:49
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LostFrogHas anyone had their network card identified as eth4 instead of eth0?09:49
holycowms office doesn't use paper or any other litteral iconography09:49
holycowas it stands current icons are beyond ugly09:49
orbishsudo -i, i see what that does, but now it's not finding the command... really weird09:49
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harisundChu: what problem?09:49
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Warboholycow: I haven't seen Ubuntu's default icons since I ran the install CD....09:49
SilverMonkhey i'm having a problem with sound09:50
eyequeuei've had a eth0, eth1, and eth2, but never eth409:50
SilverMonkim running dapperdrake09:50
holycow*nod* no biggie was curious thank you09:50
IdleOneI'm getting a bunch of GPG error when running apt-get update. How can I fix this?09:50
POVaddctdrbashir: a partially broken disk is likely to break completely. i'd say don't use it.09:50
WarboIdleOne: Do you use external repositories09:50
Warbo?09:50
Acidfkwhat's is the problem with the sound?09:50
SilverMonkim not getting any :p09:50
IdleOneWarbo, as in not ubuntu? no I dont09:50
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eyequeueapt-key (8)          - APT key management utility09:51
WarboIdleOne: Hmm, because Ubuntu's GPG keys are installed by default09:51
drbashirPOVaddct, but want to try to repair it (its making a ticking sound)09:51
mopflitehmm - two dapper xserver-xorg-core updates today?09:51
Acidfkyes but if u agrre a repository in the sources.list09:51
ugaritHow does one go about adding application to the "Applications" menu on the top left of Gnome?09:51
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LostFrogI need to figure out how to change my ethers to eth0 and eth1.. It will blow the other techs minds if I leave it like this.. Any ideas?09:51
Acidfki dont think so09:51
IdleOneWarbo, well I havent cjanged anything in months except for updates and upgrades and now getting GPG error09:51
Warbougarit: Check out Applications>Accessories>Alacarte09:52
IdleOnechanged*09:52
harisundugarit: if you want to manually add you can use an application called Alacarte Menu Editor09:52
SilverMonkso many people have had this sound problem but nobody has provided a solution to it09:52
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eyequeuemopflite, /topic09:52
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ugaritharisund: thanks09:52
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beniibHi - I can't resolve domain names in Ubuntu unless I ping them first. Has anyone had a similar problem?09:52
mopfliteeyequeue: aha!09:52
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FurryNemesisanyone know how to get my compiz themes back after the upgrade?09:52
POVaddctdrbashir: if you can use smartmontools with that disk, do it to get an idea how broken it is09:52
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WarboIdleOne: Should be easy to add the keys (System>Admin>Software Properties), just weird that they aren't there already09:52
eyequeue!xgl > FurryNemesis09:52
nabil2199anyone from morocco?09:52
eyequeueFurryNemesis, try there09:52
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SilverMonkdoes anyone know how to fix sound in ubuntu?09:53
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drbashirPOVaddct, thx09:53
erUSUL!sound09:53
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems09:53
phatmonkeyhow do i unmount an nfs volume that has gone down? anything i do with it (even umount) just locks up the shell09:53
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phreakys!flash09:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:53
WarboFurryNemesis: When you say Compiz Themes, is that just colours, or has it got a more complete theming system yet?09:53
eyequeuephatmonkey, have you read the man page?09:53
phatmonkeyeyequeue, for what?!09:54
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eyequeuephatmonkey, umount09:54
LostFrogHmm.. maybe alias.09:54
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holycowhas anyone had the experience of a combo drive suddenly refusing to burn cd but still able to burn dvds?09:54
nabil2199SILVERMONK>>it might just be a module issue for some old sound card09:54
phatmonkeyeyequeue, aah, i thought the -f switch did a similar thing to mount -f -o remount09:55
ubuntu`Hello. I have a huge problem. I run Dapper and the system updated the xorg core component today. Now X won't start. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it didn't help. What can I do now?09:55
phatmonkeyeyequeue, umount: /store: device is busy09:55
phatmonkeyhm09:55
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drbashirPOVaddct, huh, just installed smartmontools, but the cmdline to start it is not 'smartmontools' ?09:56
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jbroomephatmonkey: make sure you're not in the /store dir anywhere09:56
eyequeuephatmonkey, of course, you may still have troubles with hard vs soft interrupts (mount option for nfs)09:56
sethkdrbashir, smartctl, I think09:56
phatmonkeyjbroome, i can't, the shell locks up if i cd to /store!09:56
eyequeuephatmonkey, if so, try the other one with future mounts09:56
IdleOne!xorgbugfix > ubuntu`09:56
POVaddctdrbashir: look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools09:56
jbroomephatmonkey: no, you need to be *out* of /store for a umount to work09:56
looktjubuntu: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade09:56
drbashirsethk, thx, POVaddct I think I found the 2 cmds in synaptic (I installed using apt)09:57
drbashirthx09:57
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eyequeuephatmonkey, use one of those gui terminals, then you can hit that x in the corner09:57
phatmonkeyjbroome, yes i know, i'm just saying there's no way to get in ;)09:57
POVaddctphatmonkey: lsof /store | less09:57
phatmonkeyeyequeue, yes, that's what i'm doing. what can i do now then?09:57
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FatDarrelanyone run XGL ?09:57
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eyequeueFatDarrel, not here09:58
phatmonkeyPOVaddct, seems to lock up the shell... unless it takes a while!09:58
eyequeue!anyone > FatDarrel09:58
POVaddctphatmonkey: hmm09:58
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?09:58
eyequeue!xgl > FatDarrel09:58
kyjamy connection failed :/09:58
kyjaI never was able to get my bcm4306 to work with anything other than fwcutter. Is there ever going to be hope I can get 54M out of this? I am right now stuck at 11M09:58
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phatmonkeyeyequeue, is hard mount default then?09:58
eyequeuephatmonkey, iirc, but it has been a while09:59
FatDarrelhow stable is XGL ?09:59
eyequeue!xgl > FatDarrel09:59
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phatmonkeyeyequeue, how annoying. is there anything i can do now apart from reboot?09:59
eyequeueFatDarrel, this is NOT the channel for it09:59
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tiedeI need help w/ banshee. I am following thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202464&page=9 and I ran into this error: configure: error: The Recommendation plugin requires Banshee 0.11.0-cvs or better. Please pass --disable-recommendation to configure.09:59
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FatDarreleyequeue, found it09:59
eyequeuephatmonkey, sadly, that was the only option i could find, back when10:00
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sethkphatmonkey, the lsof will complete, if that's what you mean.10:00
tiedeis it safe to pass --disable-recommendation to the line?10:00
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eyequeuephatmonkey, change fstab if needed, for future mounts10:00
sethkphatmonkey, or did I misread the question about something hung?10:00
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eyequeuesethk, the mount / umount is hung10:00
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tiedeanyone can help with banshee???10:01
sethkeyequeue, ah, that is one case where you may have to reboot to clear10:01
eyequeuesethk, when the remote nfsd dies10:01
phatmonkeyeyequeue, i have many machines with this share open. ouch, this'll be a right pain10:01
sethkeyequeue, although, usually leaving the phantom umount around doesn't hurt anything10:01
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eyequeuephatmonkey, "share" is what?10:01
eyequeuesethk, nod10:01
phatmonkeynfs volume sorry!10:01
phatmonkeyit's rather silly that there is no way to solve this10:02
John[1] Well I'm back and I'm now trying a new install of the dapper server.10:02
eyequeuephatmonkey, yeah, hard mounts are not a wise default, imo, in this imperfect world10:02
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sethkphatmonkey, you trade off some flexibility in favor of performance10:03
eyequeuephatmonkey, btw, they prevent timeouts if the machine only dies briefly ... can you ssh in and revive it?10:03
NemesisUKhi whats with the latest xorg update and it breaking the xserver?10:03
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eyequeueNemesisUK, /topic10:03
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LostFrogok.. I can't find a way to change eth4 to eth0, etc.10:03
phatmonkeyeyequeue, it's this machine i'm doing it on now... it's only the shell that locks up10:04
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brianprogrammerhey10:04
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brianprogrammerI have ubuntu installed, but it will not boot anymore10:04
eyequeuebrianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?10:05
sethkphatmonkey, kill the shell process.  or have you tried that?10:05
brianprogrammerno gui10:05
eyequeuebrianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic10:05
legindhello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it.  any ideas?10:05
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phatmonkeysethk, just closing it works, it's open in an xterm10:05
phatmonkeyor gnome-terminal or whatever this thing is10:05
NemesisUKeyequeue, this is the ubuntu channel so whats wrong with asking the question?10:06
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FurryNemesis!xgl10:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:06
eyequeueNemesisUK, /topic, why should we type repeatedly, ppl can read10:06
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orbishchecking for gcc... no   same with cc/cl10:07
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orbishquick fixes?10:07
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eyequeueNemesisUK, ops place things in the /topic for that reason, there are close to 900 in here10:07
holycow*blink*10:07
holycownero has a debian package installer10:07
holycowwell that is helpfull10:07
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NemesisUKok sorry my mistake10:07
eyequeueorbish, try sudo apt-get install build-essential10:08
micahcowaneyequeue, a number of people new to Ubuntu, coming to this channel for support may not know what "X" is, or that that's what's broken.10:08
orbishthanks pal10:08
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micahcowancould someone perhaps improve the sentence in topic?10:08
eyequeuemicahcowan, hence the referral to /topic10:08
micahcowanThat's my point: /topic is nowhere near clear enough.10:08
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MintyWarbogot 64 bit install :) and on same grub as 32 bit :)10:09
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eyequeuemicahcowan, when someone doesn't, well, example: <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?  <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic10:09
WarboMinty: You have all entries for both versions? Cool10:09
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Vinicius_will ubuntu edgy come with soft-modem support /on-the-fly/?10:09
Mintywarbu yes10:09
brianprogrammerso to get my gui working again what should I do?10:09
eyequeuemicahcowan, we do still have humans in here too, heh10:09
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Mintyautomati is avaiable for 64 bit ???10:10
fyrestrtrVinicius_: depends on the softmodem, and what the linux kernel supports.10:10
micahcowaneyequeue, yes, but my point is, pointing someone at /topic is useless, if /topic itself is quite unclear.10:10
eyequeuebrianprogrammer, follow the commands given at that url10:10
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holycowVinicius_, how can it? those are microsoft modems requiring windows drivers10:10
Ross!proftpd10:10
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB10:10
holycowdo you expect ubuntu to find and package up all windows drivers for you?10:10
micahcowanHaving it refer to a broken GUI instead of or in addition to X might help new users.10:10
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WarboMinty: I must be stuck in the dark ages, when leeches were used to cure all ailments and GRUB was installed to partitions....10:10
nekostar~_~10:10
nekostarso whats the deal10:10
WarboMinty: I think it is10:10
Rosshow in the hell do i login with root permissions on my ubuntu box?10:10
nekostardapper is bloated all to he1110:11
orbisheyequeue: that worked, thanks a bunch10:11
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qchRoss: use sudo10:11
WarboRoss: You log in as a regular user then use sudo10:11
nekostarand the xorg bug10:11
eyequeueorbish, no prob10:11
Rossthrough ftp?10:11
nekostarbad bad10:11
Warbo!root > Ross10:11
Vinicius_holycow, fyrestrtr: But I can put some softmodem to work on ubuntu, right?10:11
fyrestrtrRoss: you login as your normal user, then you use the power of sudo.10:11
npsterWhere do I get themes/skins for Xubuntu ?10:11
LostFrogRoss: login as yourself and sudo.10:11
docgnomeHow do I remove network interfaces from ifconfig?10:11
MintyWrabo actually it decteded the exisiting grun on the MBR and just asked if i wanted to add to it10:11
harisundDoes anyone know of a chess client in Ubuntu (or Linux) that will allow me to play chess over LAN with another computer???10:11
Warbonpster: XFCE uses GTK2, so gnome-look.org10:11
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eyequeuemicahcowan, i'm not sure if it's near the character limit, but you could ask an op to change it, i'm not one10:11
fyrestrtrRoss: you DO NOT want to enable root access via FTP.10:11
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nekostardocgnome,10:11
Rossso use ssh to transfer files?10:11
npsterWarbo: Tanks10:11
eyequeuedocgnome, typically sudo ifdown whatever10:11
holycowVinicius_, don't count on it.  you can try yes10:12
nekostar/etc/network/interfaces10:12
WarboMinty: WOW! I really didn't know that happened! (mind you, it has been ages since I had 2 Linuxes installed)10:12
Mintybut now have two sawp partitions10:12
looktj!xorgfix10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
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harisund!fix10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
docgnomeit's not in /etc/network/interfaces10:12
nekostaror system > administration > networking10:12
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looktj!fix:hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade10:12
eyequeuedocgnome, sudo ifdown eth010:12
fyrestrtrlooktj: /topic10:12
Warbo!xorgbugfix10:12
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.10:12
harisundlooktj: I thought you added that 'fix' to Ubotu a long while back? It got erased?10:12
docgnomeeyequeue: won't that interface come back after i restart though?10:12
harisundDoes anybody use Ubuntu for gaming at all?10:13
NickGarveyharisund: probably10:13
sethkharisund, sure, some do10:13
fyrestrtrharisund: I do, sometimes.10:13
eyequeuedocgnome, if  you have it configured as auto in interfaces(5), yes10:13
sethkharisund, but linux, in general, isn't the easy way to do gaming10:13
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Warboharisund: A little, but I have only bought one commercial game for Ubuntu (and it doesn't work)10:13
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harisundhmm.. do you know of good games that are multiplayer capable over the local lan?10:13
docgnomeeyequeue: it's not in the interfaces file at all10:13
eyequeue!anybody > harisund10:13
eyequeuedocgnome, how did it come up then?10:13
fyrestrtrharisund: tremulous is a good one.10:13
ravenousany ID Software game, quake's, doom's10:14
docgnomeeyequeue: vmware put it there... I don't know how it did it.10:14
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ravenousut200410:14
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harisundah yes ... tremulous .. let's my Windows friends play as well fyrestrtr, but can I create a stand alone server? I am behind a LAN, but we don't have internet as of now .....10:14
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CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?10:14
fyrestrtrharisund: sure, you just have to launch the server part.10:14
eyequeuedocgnome, vmware isn't supported here, i guess you're on your own unless there's a support channel for it10:14
brianprogrammerThe link about x being broken after an update says that there has been an update pushed out since?10:15
fyrestrtrdocgnome: that's the bridge adapter for your vmware guests.10:15
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paladinhugohello all10:15
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eyequeuebrianprogrammer, many hours ago, though propagation takes time, most mirrors now have it10:15
fyrestrtrbrianprogrammer: just update your sources, and see !xorgbugfix10:15
SKossuBah :(, easiest way to install linux source? I sat for like 30 mins answering yes, no when trying to config it10:15
docgnomefyrestrtr: Aye. I know. I don't know how to get rid of it though.10:15
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nekostarx was broken last night10:15
welphow did you guys screw up X today?10:15
fyrestrtrdocgnome: uninstall vmware?10:15
paladinhugoI've compiled kernel 2.6.16 and now I can't start X.. can anyone help?10:15
brianprogrammerso what do i run? sudo apt-get update?10:15
docgnomefyrestrtr: heh.10:15
eyequeuewelp, /topic10:15
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NickGarvey!xorgbug > Paladine10:15
NickGarvey!xorgbug > paladinhugo10:16
NickGarveyPaladine: sorry10:16
eyequeuepaladinhugo, unrelated.  /topic10:16
WarboSKossu: start with "make oldconfig" to set it up like your current setup, then use "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig" to tweak the settings10:16
looktjhit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade10:16
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eyequeuebrianprogrammer, and update then an upgrade10:16
fyrestrtrpaladinhugo: why are you compiling a kernel?10:16
MintyI want to free up some some space from my Windows partion should i do in windows or can I do it in linux and if so what program do I need ?10:16
eyequeuebrianprogrammer, s/and/an/10:16
fyrestrtrMinty: do it from windows10:17
SKossuthanks warbo10:17
paladinhugofyrestrtr: to increase performance10:17
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WarboMinty: If you have Windows then use it. Linux NTFS support is either hard to set up, or dodgy10:17
Mintyk10:17
fyrestrtrpaladinhugo: in what way?10:17
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eyequeuepaladinhugo, what exactly does 2.6.16 do that you need?10:17
phatmonkeyis upgrading safe now, what with all the X problems?10:17
paladinhugoI guess nothing10:17
looktjyes10:18
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looktjphatmonkey: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade10:18
teacordesanybody working with 3d modelling/animation applications on ubuntu?10:18
Vaske_Caris there a way to setup vsftpd.conf file for each user diferent one?10:18
paladinhugobut I can't start with the old kernel either10:18
phatmonkeylooktj, hehe. i'll leave it for now until the repositories are fixed10:18
Warboteacordes: I have dabbled in Blender, but haven't used it for animation10:18
eyequeuepaladinhugo, "can't start" means what?10:18
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brianprogrammerok thanks for the help, i'll be trying those things10:19
fyrestrtr!doesn't work10:19
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.10:19
paladinhugoX won't start10:19
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teacordesWarbo: is this compatible with 3ds max formats?10:19
eyequeuepaladinhugo, VERY different.  known issue, see /topic10:19
Warboteacordes: I am not sure, hang on10:19
lastent!pastebin10:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:19
ph8hi all, i've just installed fglrx and now xine doesn't playback movies properly, anyone come across this problem?10:19
ph8Also if anyone's running stepmania on ubuntu I'd like to talk to them10:20
ph8:)10:20
teacordesph8: do other video applications still work?10:20
nekostarhuh10:20
ph8teacordes: playback in VLC is fine10:20
nekostarsure enough last nights xorg was .310:20
nekostar.4 is indeed different10:20
nekostarsweet10:20
Warboteacordes: Hmm, I can't tell right off. I am pretty sure you can get 3ds stuff to work in it, but you may have to convert it to lightwave format or something10:21
nekostaris anyone here who is in charge of repositories ?10:21
teacordesph8: dunno then. maybe just check if you can see anything in xine conifg10:21
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jariep1__hi all10:21
paladinhugodoes it tell how to fix the problem?10:21
John[1] Okay, I'm at the command prompt in dapper server what is the command to update the software and get the ubuntu desktop?10:21
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eyequeuenekostar, no, but propagation takes time, is that the issue?10:21
teacordesWarbo: kk. i will check it out then10:21
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teacordesWarbo: thx10:21
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eyequeuepaladinhugo, the url there does, yes10:21
nekostarJohn[1] , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:21
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fyrestrtrJohn[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:21
nekostar:)10:21
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nekostareyequeue, mm10:21
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nekostarno i was wondering if it was a roundrobin geo setup10:22
paladinhugoI'll check it out10:22
frances_hello cannot get monitor to go past 640x480 have redid xorg but no other settings avail10:22
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frances_how can I fix this?10:22
TalluUhm. I'll be starting to use ubuntu tomorrow. I've experience with debian from before so umm.. anything I should read up on to make me 'more prepared' for the experience? (The school uses ubuntu)10:22
eyequeuenekostar, most mirrors should have it .... some are rr yes, some are single hosts10:22
slimzis there any way to install ubuntu without starting up the live cd?10:22
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nekostar http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main10:22
jariep1__I have a question about understanding the significance of localhost localdomain... I have a domain at mysubdomain.dyndns.org how do I include in my system10:22
nekostarfor instance that eyequeue10:22
lamegoTallu, help.ubuntu.com , the official guide :)10:22
eyequeueslimz, the alternatecd, yes10:22
nekostarthat pushes to my geo local server ?10:22
WarboTallu: Make sure you understand sudo, that is a big difference from Debian10:22
fyrestrtrTallu: yeah, ubuntu is not debian, so don't try your debianisms in ubuntu -- like trying to install debian debs. Ask first, before you try your known debian solution.10:22
nekostari was thinking of talking to one of my hosts and seeing if i could get a deal on bw10:23
frances_how to reconfigure resolution???10:23
nekostaror mebbie a local college10:23
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slimzeyequeue: there isnt a command on the regular desktop cd to start the setup without booting to live?10:23
orbishwhere can i edit modules.conf10:23
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fyrestrtr!fixres10:23
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:23
TalluWarbo: hmm ok, no root usage then :)10:23
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eyequeuenekostar, "host" tells me there are two there10:23
Tallufyrestrtr: yeah, that's what I've gathered thus far.. :) I'll check out the help.ubuntu.com thanks10:23
nekostareyequeue, eh?10:23
paladinhugoI'm using the live cd10:23
holycowheh10:23
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holycowi need to get off of irc10:23
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nekostarlost me a tad sorry10:23
eyequeueslimz, no, i think there is no room, it has to have all those apps etc :)10:23
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paladinhugocan I download the .deb file, start with the old kernel and install the deb file?10:23
holycowi just said to someone 'you are the awesome' instead of 'thank you'10:24
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eyequeuenekostar, "host us.archive.ubuntu.com"    handy command :)10:24
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fyrestrtrholycow: atleast you didn't say you are teh awesome10:24
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?10:24
Paradoxxwhich beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?10:24
joabservices that are checked in the services window will start at next boot too, right? i need to reboot remotely but need to make sure i can reach it after too :)10:24
John[1] Well I remembered the commands, now let me see if they work.10:24
bambi^Hi. Im trying to install Rubyonrails: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails. But when im trying to update gems i get following message: "Gem::GemNotFoundException"10:24
teacordesWarbo: is there any way to get the interface more similar to 3ds?10:24
eyequeuepaladinhugo, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb, yeah10:24
nekostaru mean the 146.137.96.7 // .15 ?10:24
Rosshow do i open gedit with root privledges?10:24
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orbishanyone know where i can find modules.conf or a modprobe.conf?10:25
Warboholycow: I found some old letters while I was clearing out a desk for a new computer, and I told my brother to "delete" them :)10:25
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ParadoxxRoss: in terminal type sudo gedit10:25
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fyrestrtrRoss: gksudo gedit10:25
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eyequeueRoss, sudo gedit foo10:25
Rossrgr10:25
nekostarXD10:25
paladinhugothx10:25
nekostarseems so10:25
paladinhugobrb10:25
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nekostarthats probably the same server eyequeue10:25
xeal'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?10:25
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nekostarmm10:25
holycowWarbo, hehe10:25
Paradoxxwhich beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?10:25
xealI've googled but didn't come up with anything10:25
eyequeuenekostar, yeah, though 2 ip addys10:25
Warboteacordes: Blender can use 4 views at once, although I can't work out how to set it up. Other than that, it takes a lot of getting used to :)10:25
nekostareyequeue, yeh10:25
John[1] It prompted me for my cde and I can see my network card flashing10:26
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nekostarsomeone should make a load distrobution proggie etc10:26
nekostarmmm10:26
ddiinnhey everyone, i have recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, an acer 4100 series, and then i installed winXP, now when i go in the live cd and try to restore the grub menu, like i read i should do in the ubuntu unofficel guide, the live CD does not let me access or didnt mount my linux partition, when i try to enter it it gives me error saying it cannot access the device, what should id do? is there any other way to restore grub?10:26
nekostari assume its on gbit eyequeue ?10:26
nekostarhave any idea what kinda bw they use?10:26
eyequeuenekostar, anyway, i fetched 10.4 from there hours ago, if that's helpful to know10:26
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teacordesWarbo: i see... you cam from 3ds too?10:26
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nekostareyequeue, im way past that10:26
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eyequeuenekostar, no, i think you may want to talk to someone not in this channel for those answers ... post to ubuntuforums?10:27
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nekostarim thinking about getting a repository for ubuntu10:27
nekostarheh10:27
fyrestrtrddiinn: your disk is probably mounted read only. Type 'mount' from a terminal, and tell me what device it is, and where its mounted.10:27
teacordesWarbo: ever tried 3ds max in wine or virtual machine?10:27
nekostartried the forums a while back10:27
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nekostarnever got responce10:27
harisundIs there a way I can save a java applet from the web for offline viewing?10:27
Warboteacordes: I came from Imaginge mainly, but I have a little 3DS experience (I haven't done anything 3D for a while, and I keep having to re-learn Blender's interface whenever I use it because it hasn't sunk in yet)10:27
ddiinnfyrestrtr: ok, hold on a moment, thanks for the replay10:27
fyrestrtrharisund: its in your cache, just fetch it from there.10:27
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Warboteacordes: After seeing how slow Flash MX runs in Wine I would shudder to think of 3DS Max10:27
iratikCan anyone tell me why user "www-data" shows 'date' as EDT and all other users show 'date' as 'CDT'?10:28
harisundfyrestrtr: where does firefox store its cache on Ubuntu? On Windows I know it is at C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Ap........10:28
gimmulfIs there any setting in System => Preferences => Login Screen that can prevent users from ssh:ing in?10:28
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amee2kare there known problems on x64 with the xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 update? it didn't detect my video card (GeForce 6600) anymore after. i downgraded to a previous version (0ubuntu10) to temporarily work around the issue. is there a real fix for this problem?10:28
Paradoxxhow do i install the dual processor head header files?10:28
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harisundgimmulf: I doubt that. You could edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config instead to disallow certain users.10:28
fyrestrtrharisund: ~/.mozilla/firefox10:28
teacordesWarbo: *shudders i think i will check it out in a win2000 vm10:28
eyequeuegimmulf, set their shell in /etc/passwd10:28
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fyrestrtrgimmulf: turn off the ssh server.10:28
harisundfyrestrtr: ah ok thanks .. will have a look ..10:29
Paradoxxrather, does ubuntu take advantage of dual processors out of the box??10:29
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fyrestrtrParadoxx: no, you have to install the smp kernel.10:29
harisundParadoxx: I think the Ub kernel comes with SMP enabled by default?10:29
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harisundfyrestrtr: it doesn't?10:29
fyrestrtrI don't believe it does.10:29
gimmulffyrestrtr:  well the problem is that i cant scp or ssh from my other local machine into this ubuntu box10:29
gimmulfbut i can ping it and10:29
Paradoxxfyrestrtr: how do i install smp kernel?10:29
ddiinnok so the exact error i get is not 'cannot access' it is 'unable to mound, device /dev/sda2 is not removable, could not execute pmount'10:29
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fyrestrtrgimmulf: did you install openssh-server ?10:29
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LostFrogThe standard kernel is not SMP10:29
gimmulffyrestrtr:  yes10:29
ddiinnmount*10:29
fyrestrtrParadoxx: sudo apt-get install linux-68610:30
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Thunderpants686 for smp?10:30
harisundah you are right fyrestrtr, that command is the first thing to do.. didn't realize the default is 386 :)10:30
mtemmerm'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?10:30
Paradoxxfyrestrtr: thx10:30
mitjaHow do I disable a module in kernel that is currently in use and can't be removed momentarily?10:30
sethkmitja, you don't10:30
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mitjasethk: so how do I do it?10:31
fyrestrtrmitja: to disable it would mean 'make it unusable'. You can't disable something being used, otherwise it'd be enabled.10:31
sethkmitja, I don't know that you can.  what are you trying to do?10:31
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fyrestrtrmitja: you can unload it, that would disable it.10:31
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Paradoxxwhat beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?10:32
mitjafyrestrtr: how do I disable it?10:32
mitjaunload, sorry10:32
fyrestrtrmitja: disable the unloading?10:32
fyrestrtrmitja: sudo rmmod nameofmodule10:32
ThunderpantsParadoxx, google dapper guide10:32
ddiinnParradox the unofficel ubuntu guide is great ubuntuguide.com10:32
sutabiAnyone know where I can find kernel-build-2.6.15.26-386.deb ?10:32
gimmulffyrestrtr:  what could be wrong? it has worked before10:32
mitjafyrestrtr: module is in use10:32
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ddiinnsorry that ubuntuguide.org10:32
sutabiI can only find up to 2.4.X on the wiki10:33
fyrestrtrmitja: find out what is using it, what module is it?10:33
mitjafyrestrtr: ipv610:33
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mitjalsof ?10:33
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Sputn1kHello, how to change character encoding in gedit?10:33
fyrestrtrsutabi: I have 2.6.15 here10:33
easytigerhow do i increase the number of columns at the console?10:33
FatDarrelsparkleytone, LANG=?10:33
ThunderpantsParadoxx, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide10:33
npsterHow do I install a GTK 2.x theme on Xubuntu ???10:33
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javiolohi10:33
ParadoxxThunderpants: thx10:34
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eyequeuenpster, isn't gtk the GNOME toolkit?10:34
sutabifyrestrtr know of a way I can get alhold of it I need to to rebuild my ndiswrapper10:34
javioloIm trying to run the ubuntu desktop livecd on a pentium 3 with 128mb of ram and takes too much to load everythhing, any idea ?10:34
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mitjafyrestrtr: lsof outputs nothing10:34
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npstereyequeue: I don't understand10:34
ubuntu__whats up guys10:34
eyequeuenpster, XFCE != GNOME10:35
fyrestrtr!ipv6 > mitja10:35
jordan_i just updated my ubuntu system and my xorg server will not start10:35
npstereyequeue: someone told me to go to gnome-look.org, where should I go10:35
jordan_can someone help?10:35
lamegojordan_, read the channel topic10:35
eyequeuejordan_, /topic10:35
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eyequeuenpster, no clue, i don't know much of xfce10:35
fyrestrtrsutabi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386 should get it for you. You most likely will also need the headers.10:35
eyequeue!themes10:36
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ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:36
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fyrestrtrnpster: http://gnome-look.org <-- there10:36
javiolois there any ubuntu that cames with fluxbox ?10:36
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eyequeuenpster, the bot only seems to know of kde and gnome10:36
foolipgreetings. how can I reconfigure the network, like I did when I first installed ubuntu, from a console. there used to be a base-config, but that appears to be removed10:36
lamegojaviolo, you can install it...10:36
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jvaixubuntu.... it has it's own libs.. from what i read...10:36
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javiololamego yep I know10:36
ubuntu__quick question, i just got the shipit cd's for kubuntu, but i didn't get the ubuntu/xubuntu cd's with it... do they send out more then one package at a time? where can i go to let them know im missing some? also, i like kubuntu's interface better then my ubuntu, can i do an apt-get install kubuntu and get kubuntu on my computer without having to reinstall everything and losing all my files and settings?10:36
NickGarveyjaviolo: fluxbuntu might work, but I would suggest just doing an ubuntu server install then apt-get install fluxbox10:36
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Flanneljvai: xfce uses GTK (which is what gnome uses)10:36
paladinhugohello again10:36
javiolonickgarvey ok10:36
lamegojvai, xubuntu shares the same libs from ubuntu, except for the xfce related apps10:36
sutabifyrestrtr problem is my ndiswrapper broke and I only have wifi pci on that pc, know where I can download that?10:36
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eyequeueubuntu__, no, but close10:37
npstereyequeue: I'll go to xfce-look.org10:37
fyrestrtrubuntu__: if you order kubuntu, that's all you get. Not the entire set.10:37
ugaritanyone know of a good mpeg editor?10:37
NickGarveyubuntu__: you can do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"10:37
yyyhi10:37
eyequeueubuntu__, the package is named kubuntu-desktop10:37
jordan_thank you10:37
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fyrestrtrsutabi: download what exactly?10:37
jvaiok.... but.. i would think it would have the same apps, by default10:37
paladinhugoI've applied the patch but synaptic tells me that there is a new version of xserver-xorg-core10:37
sutabifyrestrtr the update10:37
ubuntu__it wont delete all my files and settings right? just get the kde desktop basically?10:37
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yyylast nicght i installed some upgrade of X and now i cannot log in to my system10:37
fyrestrtrsutabi: you don't have any network on that machine?10:37
NickGarveyubuntu__: yup10:37
ubuntu__ok good :)10:37
npsterHow do I install it ? The theme ?10:37
sutabifyrestrtr no10:37
ubuntu__kubuntu-desktop?10:37
yyyi m using live cd now10:38
eyequeueubuntu__, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it will just pull in packages10:38
jordan_and thank you creators of irrsi and lynx10:38
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ubuntu__gotcha :)10:38
ubuntu__thanks for the help guys10:38
NickGarveyyup10:38
frfx2i have a dapper cd.how do i get the server install?10:38
fyrestrtrsutabi: if you install it on another machine, just copy the .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives to the other machine.10:38
dudusmy keyboard works fine under x but it's not ok on cli... anyone?10:38
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sutabifyrestrtr alright thanks10:38
fyrestrtrsutabi: if you don't have an other ubuntu machine, just search for the deb file on the net, and download it (like say on a Windows machine) and copy them over.10:38
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eyequeuefrfx2, the server cd :/  there are three dapper cds per arch10:38
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mokopilahi my x servers messed up, i dont care if i have to reinstall the system all i whant is to back up my documents. how can i do that without a graphical interface_10:39
fyrestrtrfrfx2: use the alternate install cd10:39
NickGarvey!xorgbug > mokomull10:39
eyequeuemokopila, /topic10:39
NickGarveymokomull: (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)10:39
mopflite!xorgbug > mopflite10:39
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NickGarveyoh wrong person10:39
NickGarveymokopila: : (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)10:39
fyrestrtr!msgthebot > mopflite10:39
mitjafyrestrtr: thanks10:40
profoX`!xorgbug > profoX`10:40
mokopilathanks10:40
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fyrestrtr!msgthebot10:40
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops10:40
frfx2is there no way to get the text mode install from the normal ubuntu cd? in breezy it was possible10:40
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fyrestrtr!livecd10:40
raveneyeReboot after an X reroll isnt /etc/init.d/gdm stop start not enough? or just ctrl alt backspace?10:40
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.10:40
Pensacola)10:40
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fyrestrtrfrfx2: no, there isn't :)10:40
orbishwhat's the best way to see if i have a sound driver built into my kernel?10:40
eyequeuefrfx2, things have changed sonce breezy days10:40
L1Can I discuss a laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)10:41
fyrestrtrorbish: play some music.10:41
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fyrestrtrorbish: if you hear something, its working.10:41
IcemanV9is ubuntuforums slow to respond? anyone have this problem?10:41
orbishfyrestrtr: no sound, that's why i'm going through this trouble10:41
LostFroglol10:41
fyrestrtrorbish: depends what kind of sound card you have.10:41
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ENE|ToxicAnyone know if/how I can find out buss speed and some information about the memory?10:41
orbishintel8x0 is the module i need10:41
IcemanV9orbish: you might need to replace a hearing-aid battery. ;)10:42
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orbishhar har har :p10:42
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frfx2eyequeue: if i press "escape" in the install menu, i get "boot:" i can't input "server" or something? :s10:42
fyrestrtrENE|Toxic: memory information is free or cat /proc/meminfo -- bus speed and other jazz can be had with lshw10:42
orbishit's onboard audio with optical out... so it's a pain10:42
fyrestrtrfrfx2: nope.10:42
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eyequeuefrfx2, try it if you like10:42
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ENE|Toxicfyrestrtr: k, thanks10:42
eyequeuefrfx2, i think those days have gone10:42
eyequeuefrfx2, why not just grab the alternate or server cd for your arch?10:43
fyrestrtrfrfx2: only the alternate cd provides that that kind of love and tenderness10:43
Andy_AlphaHi! I need to remove FireFox. Can I do that from Synaptic or do I have to do smoething more?10:43
fyrestrtrAndy_Alpha: you can remove it from synaptic, that will take care of it.10:43
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eyequeuefrfx2, keep in mind the livecd has tons and tons of bytes tied up being the livecd10:43
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frfx2eyequeue: but i have an idea! if i install breezy server and i upgrade?10:43
josh__got a problem10:43
E-Jey_Hi10:43
eyequeuefrfx2, that would work as well10:44
fyrestrtrfrfx2: it would be faster to download the alternate cd.10:44
eyequeue!upgrade10:44
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.10:44
josh__after putting in the kubuntu cd and checking out the live version, i went to take it out and then the the kubuntu-desktop update... but my gdm is now screwed up again10:44
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eyequeuefrfx2, fyrestrtr has a good point, a dist-upgrade would be a huge d/l10:44
josh__the last time this happened it was because of my ati drivers still be loaded instead of the nvidia ones10:44
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josh__but i just checked and those are the same (they are the crrect ones10:45
E-Jey_I'd to make a simple html page with thumbnails of pictures. There are a lot of tools for that under windows. Is there a similar tool for ubuntu?10:45
frfx2eyequeue: i know how to upgrade :) bigger than an 700mb iso?10:45
fyrestrtrorbish: I don't know anything about optical out, but general sound card problems can be diagnosed easily. Find out what modules are running with lsmod10:45
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josh__but the error says no device/screennot found10:45
fyrestrtrE-Jey_: a few hundred I would imagine.10:45
eyequeuefrfx2, obviously it depends how many packages are installed, but i'd say definitely yes10:45
sethkE-Jey_, html is the same in windows and in linux10:45
psneaveillhowdy10:45
eyequeuejosh__, as in /topic?10:45
josh__im trying to do a kubutnu upgrade right now... will that reenable and fix the /etc/X11 config?10:45
sethkE-Jey_, if you really mean something specific to IIS, that's different10:45
L1Can you help me with a Dapper laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)10:46
sparkleytonebtw, xserver-xorg-core package is fixed.  in case you want to update the topic10:46
John[1] Well it looked like it made all the updaes with no errors, now lets see if I get a ubuntu desktop10:46
eyequeuejosh__, see /topic for the x problem10:46
SKossuLast Question hopefully, did ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build but it gives the error ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links    whats wrong? :S10:46
josh__oh10:46
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josh__yeah10:46
josh__exactly10:46
josh__problem though10:46
sethkE-Jey_, best thing to do is to bring up a web page with thumbnails and examine the source10:46
josh__i cant see the whole topic10:46
jvaieye of gnome & gthumb image viewer10:46
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fyrestrtrjosh__: type /topic10:46
josh__i am using the f2 screen with irssi10:46
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eyequeuejosh__, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715310:46
E-Jey_I mean a tool to create a the simple HTML page automatic. Under windows I always used ACDsee for that10:46
josh__yeah... doesn't help because i have no browser right now10:46
eyequeuejosh__, use lynx10:47
fyrestrtrSKossu: the 5 link depth has been reached.10:47
josh__lynx...?10:47
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frfx2eyequeue: ok..i will download the alternate..thanks for your help.but you said there were 3cds.which is the 3rd?10:47
eyequeuejosh__, sudo apt-get install lynx, you will need it for next time10:47
fyrestrtrE-Jey_: apt-cache search gallery -- pick one :)10:47
eyequeuelynx (1)             - a general purpose distributed information browser for the World Wide Web10:47
josh__ok10:47
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SKossufyrestrtr: What should I do? im a newbie :(10:47
fyrestrtrE-Jey_: try galrey10:47
DarkRainHello, x is rather broken, I followed the link in topic, and it says there is a fix released. wondering what this fix is... since yeeeah. I have no computer at the moment10:47
josh__dont run off... i might need to ask you some more questions ;P10:47
John[1] I did the install ubuntu desktop command and rebooted, now I'm back to the command prompt.  Any ideas on what could have did wrong?10:47
eyequeuefrfx2, livecd, alternatecd, servercd10:47
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fyrestrtrSKossu: why are you even running that command?10:47
eyequeuefrfx2, you may want that server :)10:47
E-Jey_oke, thanks for the reactions10:48
lamegoJohn[1] , have you read the topic about the xorg bug ?10:48
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John[1] no10:48
fyrestrtrDarkRain: fix is circulating among the servers. sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then restart the pc.10:48
SKossufyrestrtr: because of: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.10:48
SKossurt2500.ko failed to build!10:48
josh__ok i have to wait for my kubuntu-desktop to finish installing10:48
frfx2eyequeue: what is difference between alternate and server? alternate is just text mode?10:48
josh__there isn't a chance that will fix the problem will it?10:48
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fyrestrtrSKossu: what are you installing? Module for what?10:48
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josh__going from gnome to kde desktop?10:48
fyrestrtrjosh__: what problem?10:48
SKossufyrestrtr: patching my wlan10:48
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eyequeuefrfx2, alternate allows gui installs, server is just server10:48
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DarkRainfyrestrtr: thanks ill shut down the live disc and check it out10:49
eyequeuefrfx2, server might be smaller, i forget10:49
Flannelfrfx2: server ONLY installs a server, its got a LAMP preconfigure option, and some specialized server kernels.  Alternate can install the desktop, or a text-only thing10:49
josh__the gdm problem10:49
eyequeueFlannel!10:49
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Flanneleyequeue!  what?10:49
eyequeueFlannel, you came up in the CC meeting earlier, but were offline10:49
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frfx2eyequeue+flannel: thanks for your help10:50
fyrestrtrSKossu: you might need to pass an argument to the /configure script and tell it to look for the headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-your-kernel-version10:50
eyequeueFlannel, glad to see you here :)10:50
FlannelI know, I was there until :10, then my ISP went down for three hours.  Pisses me off, since I don't think I can make it to the next.  You have a log?  It's not posted online yet.10:50
Flanneleyequeue: woke up early to make it and everything ;)10:50
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SKossufyrestrtr: Okay, gotta ask my friend for help though, its my first day with Linux so I have no idea what im poking at :P10:50
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eyequeueFlannel, i think you're up for the next one, in ... two weeks, let me see if i do10:50
SKossufyrestrtr: thanks for tip though10:50
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ruskie_!non-free10:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:51
ruskie_!flash10:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:51
Flannelruskie_: it's called multiverse in Ubuntu10:51
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Flanneleyequeue: well, I'm up, it's in the middle of the day, but I've got class10:51
John[1] what commands do I need to issue to get my software updated and then be able to install the desktop in dapper?10:51
josh__so all we have to do is a distupgrade to fix the gdm?10:52
FlannelJohn[1] : what is your current setup?10:52
fyrestrtrJohn[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:52
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Flannelunless you already have ubuntu-desktop (of some sort) installed, in which case install that first, then update10:52
bkudriai am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?10:53
eyequeueFlannel, dcc it to you?  email?10:53
John[1] is that all one command10:53
L1Can you help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)10:53
josh__buy a non hp10:53
josh__;P10:53
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josh__ok im gonna try this dist upgrade thing... ill talk to yall later10:54
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OpossumJackHELP!!!!!!I've just downloaded the last upgrade for x.org and now It doesn't start. It keeps on saying: "No device found"...HELP!!!!10:54
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lamegoOpossumJack, read the topic10:55
ruskie_OpossumJack, topic10:55
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strangyOpossumJack, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24125410:55
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janbananI have a Microsoft explorer mouse with 5 buttons(one scroll). how do i install this properly? is there any guides10:55
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jordanaui have xserver bak up and running thanks to lynx, irssi, and y'all... Thank you10:56
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paladinhugoI have my X back.. how can I uninstall the latest kernel?10:57
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OpossumJackstrangy, thanks a lot... I'm gonna try it right now.10:57
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John[1] I issued all those commands and it ran through some things and then prompted me for my cd, I put it in and it is now working downloading stuff from the cd.10:57
eyequeuepaladinhugo, sudo dpkg --purge packagename10:58
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jordanauPaladine, what do you mean uninstall latest kernel? is that necessary to completely fix the broken x patch?10:58
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lenovohello has anyone here performed a pxe installation?10:58
John[1] Now I get a error that says failed to fetch some some archives and I see a file mismatch error.10:58
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eyequeuejordanau, no, he was messing with the kernel, i guess thinkiing it would be the fix ... you don't need to10:58
paladinhugopackage name with the .deb?10:58
bkudriai am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?10:58
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eyequeuepaladinhugo, no, nothing after the _10:59
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L1Can anyone help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)10:59
ENE|ToxicIs there a way I can find out if I'm using 400 or 533Mhz memory? (Othen then in bios | physically looking | /proc/meminfo | lshdw | hwdetect)10:59
jordanaueyequeue, after downgrading, i just need to avoid uprgrading till i here it is fixed right?10:59
eonoxhow do i search for a string in vi?10:59
paladinhugoI've compiled the kernel and installed kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12_ck12_i386.deb10:59
eyequeuepaladinhugo, package_debianversionubuntuversion.deb, just pacakge10:59
OpossumJackufff...10:59
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eyequeuejordanau, yes, though you can let "...ubuntu10.4" install11:00
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lamegoeonox, google.com look for a vi quickreference card11:00
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pedazhallo loom11:00
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John[1] Can I use scp to issue these commands man this gets to be a chor typing all this stuff in.11:01
loomhey pedaz. english please :)11:01
Mintycan someone please remind me the line so that I can edit my grub file11:01
sethkJohn[1] , probably.  you can also use shell loops, make a script file, etc.11:01
eyequeuepaladinhugo, in that example, package name is kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12 for example11:01
paladinhugothx11:01
paladinhugoI've done it already11:02
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lenovohas anyone here performed a pxe install?11:02
SKossubah this is too wierd, soon time for windows again11:02
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Flannellenovo: You read the wiki?11:02
lenovoyes i need some help with an especific item11:03
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SKossuIm trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.11:04
SKossurt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours11:04
John[1] I di those commands you gave me and I'm still not getting a ubuntu desktop.11:04
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Flannellenovo: what do you need help with?11:04
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lenovoFlannel: i want to install many computers at the same time, but i need them to install new packages...with a kickstart...but the packages dont come by default with the install cd...I think i might need to setup a mirror myself11:04
pedazafter a recent xserver update it doesn't work anymore. in the xorglog i get the message "no devices detected" and in the next line "Fatal server error: no screens found " What should i do11:04
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Andy_AlphaHi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".11:05
w30pedaz, me too, help me too!11:05
lamegolenovo, you could setup an apt proxy11:05
Flannellenovo: You can do that, yeah.  Setup a small repository locally, then you'll have LAN access times to those packages.11:05
lenovolamego: ok how do i setup the apt proxy11:05
pedazw30, i dont know what to do either11:05
lamegolenovo, I have done it with http replicator, but on the wiki there is a description by using the apt proxy package11:06
John[1] Now what is the fix for the installing ubuntu desktop on my server?11:06
lenovolamego: ok thx...already reading about it11:06
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FlannelJohn[1] : you have the web repositories enabled, right?11:06
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janbananHow do I install my Microsoft explorer 5-button mouse?11:06
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w30pedaz, I tried other xorg.confi files, both nvidia and nv driver setups but alas.11:06
octan_is ther a tool like kcron for gnome?11:06
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John[1] Well not sure, how can I check?11:07
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Andy_AlphaHi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".11:07
FlannelJohn[1] : check your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) for a bunch of uncommented (comments with #) lines with urls in them ;)11:07
alex_Is the the correct place to come for ubuntu support?11:07
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Slaj_RCan anyone tell me what is the best linux equivalent to programs like Nitro PDF, for combining pdf's into a single file, with page numbers, TOC, etc?11:08
Flannelalex_: yep11:08
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StephenLAnyone know of a guide for setting up dual monitors on a dual head i810 card?11:08
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pedazw30,i tried to adjust the BusID of the device but i think that was a rather bad idea11:08
StephenLRight now it clones to the second monitor but I want it to extend to it.11:08
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pedazw30, i also tried to change the xorg.config file like you said but it didn't word11:09
alex_Can anyone help with a problem i am having installing a new video card. I am really new to hardware issues and i think it must be something stupid i am doing11:09
John[1] I'm a noob, how do I get there from the command prompt?11:09
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FlannelJohn[1] : nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:09
FlannelJohn[1] : and ctrl-X to exit ;)11:10
mnvlor, John[1]  cat /path/filename prints a file to screen11:10
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pedazw30, i also unistalled the nividia-glx and installed it new. as to maybe it didnt communicate right with the new xserver, but that didnt work either11:10
alex_can anyone give me some help installing a video card11:10
jvaislaj, u can modify them in open office11:11
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psneaveillBeen having a problem with an older ATI video card that I've attempted everything anyone has suggested -- radeon, ATI and the fx* drivers11:11
mnvlor, John[1]  more /path/filename prints it a screen at a time, and waits for you to press space11:11
psneaveillam I missing something11:11
w30Does anyone in here have the inside track on the xserver update problem and can help me and pedaz11:11
Andy_AlphaHi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says "segmentation fault".11:11
sethkpsneaveill, what problem are you having?11:11
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lamegow30, have you read the topic ?11:12
SKossuIm trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop rt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours11:12
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John[1] it looks empty11:12
sethkAndy_Alpha, what version of firefox?11:12
psneaveillthe common one with the semirandom dots on the buttons11:12
webguydoes anyone have any experience running php scripts under crontab11:12
w30lamego, no11:12
pedazlamego, whats with the topic, i'm here for the first time11:12
lamegow30, do /topic , the problem is there11:12
lamegopedaz, .. /topic11:12
fyrestrtrwebguy: plenty of people in ##php do11:12
lamegoif you have problems related to the xorg update11:12
pedazdo /topic11:13
alex_can anyone help me with a video card issue11:13
pedazhow do we get there11:13
John[1] there is nothing in there.11:13
alex_How do you get your computer to boo the x-server when u install a new video card11:13
mweSKossu: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) I guess11:13
mnvlJohn[1] , make sure you got the right one, lots of utilities will show you an empty file rather than warn you you got the name wrong11:13
w30lamego, so many people talking, my window scrolled it out of sight so quickly that I missed it ,sorry and thanks11:13
psneaveillwith my system, I even attempted both the x-windows solution11:13
psneaveillwhen I try them, it craps me out to commandline11:14
pedazw30, how can one get to the topic ????11:14
fyrestrtrpedaz: type /topic and hit enter11:14
||arifaXw30 see http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/269/#more11:14
fyrestrtrpedaz: in your irc client11:14
SKossumwe: I got the version of headers it wants :S11:14
psneaveilldo /topic11:14
Andy_AlphaSETHK Version of FireFox is 1.5.0.5.11:14
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BlueEagleSo it was xserver-xorg-core version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 that was the offending package that we should not upgrade to?11:14
webguyi guess the question is if the default php install on ubuntu is an executible11:15
jvaisnaap. i'm on firefox 1.08 still!11:15
SKossumwe: though its not where it wants them to be11:15
mweSKossu: and is that version $(uname -r)? cause that's what it needs11:15
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SKossumwe: no idea, first day with linux11:15
misieqhow do i set my ip to fixed? using command line tools?11:15
Andy_AlphaSETHK I removed it and installed again. Same problem again.11:15
BlueEaglewebguy: the cli version of php is executable by default, yes. However the mod-php isn't being 'executed' per say. It's a module that is being loaded.11:15
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SKossumwe: ill give it a shot11:16
mweSKossu: try sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and see what happens11:16
BlueEaglewebguy: Perhaps the real question is if mod-php is being loaded by apache by default after it's been installed?11:16
webguyblueeagle what is cli?11:16
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SKossuwme: will do, thanks11:16
BlueEaglewebguy: command line interface11:16
Warbo!cli11:16
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:16
BlueEaglewebguy: ie. when you run php scriptname.php from the command line.11:16
webguyso how can i test if i can run a php from the command line11:17
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BlueEaglewebguy: The cli version and the apache module version are two different things.11:17
fyrestrtrwebguy: type php -v11:17
webguyso how do i know if i have the cli version of the apache module set up?11:17
BlueEaglewebguy: Well they are the same thing in two different formats. (the one is not the other but they are still the same if you see what I mean)11:17
WarboHas anyone successfully installed kqemu? It used to work for me after installation, so I made a bootup script which reinstalled it every bootup, but even that doesn't work any more :(11:18
webguyfyrestrtr: got a command not found error11:18
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fyrestrtrwebguy: then you don't have the cli version. sudo apt-get install php5-cli will fetch it for you.11:18
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Mintycan I merge my two swap partitions into one ??11:18
webguyfyrestrtr: so i can have both the command line version and the apache version running at the same time on the same box?11:19
fyrestrtrwebguy: sure11:19
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sethkMinty, you can delete both and create one big one, yes11:19
WarboMinty: You can use two, or jsu tdelete them both and make a new one which is the size of both11:19
Warbo*just delete11:19
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John[1] Okay, I'm in the sources.list.  What do I need to add or comment out?11:20
MintyWarbo: OK how do I delete them and make a new one ??11:20
Andy_Alphais there a shortcut for switching between workspaces?11:20
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kminorhey fellas, i know that ubuntu is based of debian, but what are the main differences inbetween the two in general and as far as configuration and capability?11:20
webguygreat - what about the other modules i installed eralier with the apache version such as php5-imap and php-mcrupt11:20
WarboMinty: You need to run "sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname" fisrt, to stop them being used11:20
fyrestrtrAndy_Alpha: ctrl+alt+left and right arrow keys11:20
baconbaconMinty : if you want to use two swap partitions at once, it works well11:20
jacknwhere do I get a quitting message11:20
Andy_Alphathx11:20
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fyrestrtrwebguy: these are not 'apache versions' both will use them.11:20
webguydo i need to reinstall them both on the new cli?11:20
psneaveillwhy the need for two swaps11:20
webguyexcellent!11:20
lamegokminor, the release cycle, community, etc, etc11:20
eyequeuejackn, you type it11:21
eyequeuejackn, /quit foo11:21
sethkpsneaveill, there is no need for two swaps.  I assume he needs more space than he allocated for a single swap11:21
Mintybaconbacon: I have two as I have just installed 64bit paralel with a 32 bit vesion and two seems untidy11:21
kminorlamego: any advantages? disadvantages?11:21
jackneyequeue and how does it know it's 'quit'?11:21
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Warbokminor: Other than the release shedule and the choice of versions for GCC, etc. I would say they are technologically the same11:21
MintyWarbo: after sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname I do what ??11:21
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eyequeuejackn, the irc client has a command, /quit, and it has an optional operand, typically11:22
WarboMinty: You realise that "/dev/partitionname" should be replaced with your swap partitions, yes?11:22
psneaveillthanks deth11:22
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sethkkminor, I wouldn't say ubuntu is based on debian.  It just uses debian's package management11:22
psneaveillthanks seth11:22
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bengineplease can someone help me11:22
lamegokminor, well, I would start a war, there is people which prefer debian, others ubuntu11:22
webguyfyrestrtr: worked like a charm11:22
SKossuwme: thanks, it fixed it :)11:22
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jackneyequeue thanks a lot. Where can I see a listing of these commands, please?11:22
webguy!!! thanks11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
eyequeuejackn, unless your client is bx, then it has a billion annoying ones progrmmed in and causing bloat, heh11:22
benginei've got a stupid question11:22
bengine how can i write ascii char into the shell?11:22
Warbosethk: And just happens to import it's packages from Debian?11:22
Mintysudo swapoff /dev/hda5 for instance11:22
baconbaconMinty, ok but I remind you you wont be able to hibernate one and boot the other (it's minor but useful in my case)11:23
sethkWarbo, "import"?  how do you mean import?11:23
ninuubuntu.it11:23
eyequeuejackn, in irssi, /help ... most console clients as well11:23
sethkWarbo, you don't import packages.11:23
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jackneyequeue don't know what it is, it's in gaim.11:23
Warbosethk: Universe is basically Debian recompiled11:23
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Mintybaconbacon:  thanks I never hibernate11:23
WarboI'm not saying that is a bad thing, by the way11:23
lamegokminor, I personally tried both, found Ubuntu easier to  setup and to keep, providing more recent versions of the software I need (this compared with debian stable)11:23
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eyequeuejackn, there was once a site called irchelp, .org maybe?  see if it still exists and has a list11:23
CrescendoHow would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?11:23
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sethkWarbo, there are a lot of things in debian that don't have packages in the ubuntu repositories.11:24
Andy_AlphaCheck an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?11:24
fyrestrtrwhat software is used on launchpad?11:24
jackneyequeue Thanks, /help worked.11:24
John[1] Can someone tell me what to add or comment out in the sources.list to get me fixed up?11:24
harisund!sources11:24
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource11:24
Warbo MintyOK, if you have turned them both off then I think the easiest way to delete them and make a new one would be in GParted11:24
benginewarbo11:24
bengine how can i write ascii char into the shell?11:24
eyequeuefyrestrtr, i think custom stuff called "launchpad" now :)  it's a recent thing that it was all-custom11:24
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fyrestrtr!easysource > John[1] 11:24
sethkbengine, type it11:24
Warbobengine: I don't know11:24
bisconZOMGWTFBBQ MY UBUNTU JST B0RK3D JUST START WITH BLACKSCREEN WIHT FUNNY TEXT, HELPZER PLZ! GIEF CODE TO FIX!!111:24
bengineok11:24
benginetnx11:24
olliHello there! I need help with some weird xserver issue. anybody?11:24
benginefor example11:25
sethkbengine, do you mean one that doesn't have a key attached to it?11:25
Warbo!xorgbug11:25
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')11:25
lamegobiscon, stop joking11:25
eyequeuefyrestrtr, all FOSS though, to their pride :)  i'm sure there has to be a d/l link, though i've not seen it11:25
kminorlamego: does it have the same packages? or have the same packages available for apt?11:25
ollihello ubotu11:25
bisconlamego: can't fool anyone these days :(11:25
fyrestrtreyequeue: would like to see the magic behind that thing.11:25
MintyWarbo:  so if I do sudo swapoff /dev/hda5 && sudo swapoff /dev/hda6 what next ?11:25
jvailol11:25
benginecan someone please help me11:25
bengine how can i write ascii char into the shell?11:25
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WarboMinty: Are the partitions next to each other?11:25
lamegokminor, no, they do have common packages for some software, but usually they have different versions11:25
bisconbengine: what seems to be the problem good sir?11:25
sethkbengine, again, do you mean a character that doesn't have a key assignment?11:26
MintyI fairle sure yes11:26
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denverwill someone tell me whaat `sudo rm -rf /` does?11:26
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eyequeuefyrestrtr, i saw an annoucement about it recently, but i think there is, let me check.  sec...11:26
sethkdenver, destroys your entire system11:26
Andy_AlphaI have an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?11:26
sethkdenver, do NOT do that11:26
WarboI heard that Launchpad isn't all Free Software, which is why it hasn't been adopted by that many distros yet11:26
bengineyes sethk11:26
benginetnx11:26
eyequeuedenver, gets you banned?11:26
denvermy friend told me to run it11:26
jvaiben, right clik w/ the mouse in the shell, it'll give u options11:26
sethkbengine, you can easily write a small program that echoes any character, and you supply the character as an argument11:26
harisunddenver, "friend" you say?11:26
eyequeuedenver, wrong11:26
baconbaconWarbo, youll need to back that11:26
sethkbengine, be a four or five line program11:27
eyequeuedenver, not a friend11:27
WarboMinty: System>Admin>GNOME Partition Editor11:27
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jackndenver It forces (f) removal of all files in a directory (r;recursively). Dangerous. Be sure...11:27
benginei c11:27
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denver:P11:27
frodonolli, here is a small fix before the official fix in the repos : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EmergencyDapperXorgFix11:27
eyequeuefyrestrtr, #launchpad has 53 in it :)  they'd know11:27
Warbobaconbacon: Forgot where I saw it, but correct me if I am wrong11:27
olliThanks frodon. I already fixed it11:27
jacknDenver with friends like that...11:27
yyy11:27
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jacknDenver In order to do what?11:27
harisunddenver, rm deletes files and folders, -r deletes each folder and each folder inside that folder and so on .. -f deletes it without confirming it from you first. Finally the '/' tells it to start deleting from the top of your system, eventually working your way down to the entire system :)11:27
eyequeuedenver, even mentioning it will get you banned from most linux related channels11:28
denveri will remember that11:28
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sethkdenver, your friend was either joking or being malicious11:28
root_is there a problem concearning an update of ubuntu ?11:28
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bengineand how can i show every char11:28
harisundyou know what eyequeue, one of these days I should try it out to see what actually happens :)11:28
WarboMinty: Use that to delete the partitions, then apply the changes, then make a new one, then apply the changes and close it (remember the /dev/XXXX name for it though)11:28
Mintywardo don't have that11:28
bengine?11:28
ollinot with me11:28
root_i cant start xwindows ???????11:28
eyequeueroot_, don't irc as root, and yes, see /topic11:28
baconbacon!xorgbugfix > root_11:28
WarboMinty: OK, "sudo apt-get install gparted"11:28
sethkbengine, you could easily do that in a program as well.11:28
fyrestrtreyequeue: got my answer from the ... faq :)11:28
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kminorlamego: does ubuntu have kismet?11:29
sethkbengine, just send each character between 32 and 12711:29
lamegodezonioes, read the topic11:29
sethkbengine, below 32 are generally not displayable11:29
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eyequeuefyrestrtr, a download link there too?11:29
lamegokminor, it does11:29
jsilvaHi all11:29
dezonioesi havent got a browse that works ^_^11:29
dezonioesr11:29
eyequeue!info kismet11:29
chris86wmhas the whole update fiasco been fixed yet?11:29
ubotukismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB11:29
bisconsethk: space is :)11:29
jsilvais it safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core now?11:29
fyrestrtreyequeue: I wish, but I got the info I was after. Its a zope app.11:29
harisundDid anyone here care to create a survey or have a count of how many people have logged into IRC today and asked about the Xserver fix?11:29
ollidoes anybody know where virtual resolutions can be stored?11:29
bisconsethk: ehm nevermind11:29
sethkbiscon, space is 3211:29
eyequeuedezonioes, sudo apt-get install lynx11:29
lamegokminor, version 2005.08.R1-1.211:29
olliit is safe to update xorg-core with ubuntu now11:30
eyequeuefyrestrtr, ah11:30
Qballme still thinks its funny11:30
Warboharisund: You could grep -c the logs...11:30
ollii did it right away11:30
fyrestrtrharisund: the logs would be one place to look.11:30
lamegoolli, it depends wether your repositories are updated or not11:30
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Andy_AlphaI have an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?11:30
harisundah .. ok Warbo and fyrestrtr.. will do ..11:30
bisconsethk: aye11:30
olliwell mine are11:30
sethkAndy_Alpha, I asked before, what version of firefox do you have11:30
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jsilvaok11:30
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kminorlamego: is ubuntu better, worse or just as good as debian and other distro's to run on a laptop, i have a vaio, and i had spent a full day configuring Nvidia drivers and ipw2200 drivers11:30
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eyequeuekminor, i prefer it, and have run both11:31
eyequeue!better11:31
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:31
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fyrestrtrkminor: if your laptop has crap hardware, no distribution will work. I have a well supported laptop, and all distros that I have tried have installed without a hitch.11:31
Andy_AlphaSETHK 1.5.0.511:31
sethkkminor, I think ubuntu is easier to set up on a laptop with wireless, but if it is already configured with debian, stay with debian11:31
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IndyBCHello. Can I (with apt-get) get a package and its dependencies, as .deb?11:31
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dezonioeshow can i open a second shell window ?11:31
webguywell i tired running one of my scripts that works fine via the web (i.e. apache) and got this error "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/feingold/httpdocs/staffasap/dbConnect.inc.php on line 23"11:31
magnus[1] are the ubuntu forums down?  I cant get it to load, and the new xorg update killed my xserver11:31
eyequeuekminor, better is opinion though11:31
fyrestrtrdezonioes: ctrl+alt+f211:31
jvaithnkpads r the best for linux11:31
webguyany reason why it wouldn't work via the executiable?11:31
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olliI know of many people having problems with debian on a laptop11:31
Warbokminor: I would say Ubuntu would be better, since Ubuntu seems to have a focus on the desktop/laptop, so driver issues and things get sorted better and are easier11:31
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sethkAndy_Alpha, I'm running 1.5.0.4, but I've not heard of a problem with .511:31
IndyBCBecause I want to transfer them to another pc, that it has not internet connection.11:32
sethkAndy_Alpha, try removing it and reinstalling it.11:32
SeanTaterIndyBC: I think so11:32
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eyequeuemagnus[1] , "killed" your "server"?  server with x?  weird server11:32
IndyBCSeanTater, ok, how? :)11:32
lamegokminor, ubuntu is known to be one of distros having better support for desktop use (include laptop), anyway you should do some research first, I am not sure abou the ipw2200 drivers, i don't use them...11:32
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Andy_AlphaSETHK already did; didn't help11:32
SeanTaterIndyBC: ah -- not the dependancies too11:32
eyequeuemagnus[1] , /topic11:32
hextorhello: following question. I installed ubuntu on a laptop, with a small 500Mb home drive. Idea behind is that all data is elsewhere. After installing some programs, the home directory is getting full however. I thought that stuff went into the root partition. Did I did something wrong / is there any way to change that? thanks!11:32
magnus[1] eyequeue - it wont load11:32
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SeanTaterIndyBC: just the first one11:32
sethkAndy_Alpha, you are installing with apt-get?11:32
MintyWarbo: swapoff: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument11:32
eyequeuemagnus[1] , what won't load?11:32
harisunddoes DHCP use TCP or UDP?11:32
IndyBCSeanTater, oh, ok :-(11:32
magnus[1] xserver wont11:32
sethkharisund, udp11:32
SeanTaterIndyBC: try googling, there as one that does11:32
eyequeuemagnus[1] , known.  /topic11:32
WarboMinty: Are you sure that is your swap? Maybe check with "fdisk -l"11:32
Andy_AlphaSETHK No. Well...  With Synaptic11:32
lamegohextor, programs data does not go into /home11:33
SeanTaterIndyBC: I've heard of ti11:33
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sethkharisund, actually, just raw ip, but that is effectively like udp11:33
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lamegohextor, check your trash11:33
SeanTaterIndyBC:  /it/11:33
IndyBCSeanTater, I did, but I didn't find anythin.11:33
sethkAndy_Alpha, that's the same thing, synaptic or apt-get11:33
harisundsethk ah ... is that perhaps why my DHCP server shows no result on an nmap?11:33
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magnus[1] eyequeue - thanks11:33
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sethkharisund, yes11:33
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fyrestrtrAndy_Alpha: I am on .5, and I don't have that problem.11:33
harisundsethk sweet.. thanks .. :)11:33
eyequeuemagnus[1] , sudo apt-get install lynx, if you can't read the url in console11:33
sethkAndy_Alpha, you can install the version from mozilla.org11:33
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IndyBCSeanTater, so, there isn't any way to get a package and its dependencies at once?11:33
Andy_AlphaSETHK I knew it. Then yes... I did. Is that a problem?11:33
lamegohextor, du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*11:33
sethkAndy_Alpha, not normally.  try installing the one from mozilla.org, see if the behavior changes11:33
magnus[1] eyequeue - im on a different comp (lappy)11:33
magnus[1] thx though11:34
hextorlamego: nothing of consequence there11:34
eyequeuemagnus[1] , gotcha11:34
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sethkAndy_Alpha, the one from the package should work, but knowing whether the one from mozilla.org works gives a pointer as to what may be wrong11:34
eyequeuemagnus[1] , you'll want lynx for the next breakage though ;)11:34
sethkAndy_Alpha, or, of course, if the one from mozilla.org doesn't work, that's also useful info11:34
SeanTaterIndyBC: yes, but you have to know which dependancies the dependancies need and so on, and on top of that, which ones that the /other/ computer needs..11:34
magnus[1] hahaha11:34
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SeanTaterIndyBC: I've seen it before, but I don;t know it's name11:34
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Andy_AlphaSETHK Mozilla.org? Sounds like mozilla-firefox, not firefox... :) OK THX11:35
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sethkAndy_Alpha, no, firefox is a mozilla.org project11:35
jvaii'm blowing off jvava.. for now :(11:35
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WarboNetscape>Mozilla>Firefox+Thunderbird11:35
gravesoni am copying .mp4 files to a dvd using k3b but when insertng the dvd  for playback i am not able to automount or play the dvd's ,however i can play the same files on a disk11:35
livingdaylightI need help11:35
livingdaylighti'm in deep deep ****11:36
MintyWarbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2143411:36
eyequeuelivingdaylight, i believe you11:36
livingdaylighteyequeue: no, really11:36
psneaveillspill it living11:36
WarboMinty: Ah, I will give it a go but my web browsing seems to like timeouts today...11:36
eyequeuelivingdaylight, details might get you some though., heh11:36
livingdaylighti don't have xorg.conf11:36
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MintyNP if not I try tomrrowa as getting late*11:36
eyequeuelivingdaylight, read the /topic yet?11:37
livingdaylightmy computer suddenly stopped running in X11:37
eyequeuelivingdaylight, known issue, /topic11:37
Warbolivingdaylight: read the topic ^^^^11:37
SeanTaterlivingdaylight: read the topic11:37
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livingdaylightoh, shit11:37
livingdaylightsorry11:37
jacknlivingdaylight, do /topic11:37
eyequeuelivingdaylight, sudo apt-get install lynx, if you need it, to read the url in the /topic11:37
hextorlamego: I dont understand.. the partition is 490MB, when I do properties in home it says 90.7MB are used and 43MB are free ... where is the missing space?11:37
magnus[1] eyequeue - ha it was as simple as update / upgrade11:37
magnus[1] i didnt realize they'd have the fix out now11:38
magnus[1] i updated originally last night11:38
magnus[1] but never rebooted11:38
eyequeuemagnus[1] , now, though hours ago it was worse, heh11:38
WarboMinty: Looks like they can be merged easily11:38
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eyequeuemagnus[1] , that reboot was the gotcha11:38
hextorwhat will .. du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*  do?11:38
lamegohextor, where do you see the "used space" ?11:38
magnus[1] i knew when i saw the update last night that i shouldnt reboot if i was gonna need my workstation11:38
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magnus[1] just for safety's sake11:38
WarboMinty: How many times did you run swapoff? Maybe it gave an error because you already turned it off...11:38
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lamegohow did you noticed your /home is full ?11:38
magnus[1] but thanks11:38
hextorlamego: in the disks manager, on the partitioninformation11:38
imperfect-Anyone here good with Ubuntu PPC ?11:38
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imperfect-or ubuntu on powermacs11:39
hextorlamego: plus it tells me 42MB available11:39
MintyWarbo: iah not sure11:39
SeanTaterhextor: pastebin what df says11:39
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livingdaylightFolks, so all i gotta do is install that file?11:39
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eyequeuelamego, my box routinely tells me /var is nearing full, maybe it checks /home too?  dunno11:39
livingdaylightIs there hope for me?11:39
SeanTaterlivingdaylight: probably is11:39
Andy_AlphaSETHK There's a problem; I have AMD64. There's no FireFox for AMD64 on mozilla.org11:39
livingdaylighteyequeue: please tell me11:39
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SeanTaterlivingdaylight: enjoy11:39
psneaveilluodate/upgrade are your friends11:39
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lamegohextor, I wouldn't trust a partition manager to check for the disk used space :)11:39
livingdaylightSeanTater: i'm really stressed over this11:39
eyequeuelivingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)11:39
tuxtuxciao11:39
lamegohextor, do you have /home on a split partition ?11:40
SeanTaterlivingdaylight: i get that way too -- you'll survive11:40
hextorlamego: lol well but nautilius shows 42Mb free anyhow.. yes, home is in a separate 500MB partition11:40
livingdaylightYou guys are the best11:40
eyequeuelivingdaylight, go fixx it, then come back and reassure others :)11:40
MintyWarbo: in G parted I can disactivate hda5 one and delete hda611:40
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sutabifyrestrtr: I tried the update and it still didn't give me the /build directory in my kernel of 2.6.15-2611:40
WarboMinty: Check in System>Admin>System Monitor and go in Resources. See how much swap is available, that will tell you whether it is being used11:40
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lamegohextor, what about "df" ?11:41
Mintywarbo swap zero11:41
wasabi_Anybody aware of a program to check what type of memory is installed?11:41
lamegoI don't trust GUIs :)11:41
wasabi_pc133, etc.11:41
livingdaylighteyequeue: not exactly sure what i am to do?11:41
wasabi_I know there are such utilities for Windows, so I suspect there's something for Linux11:41
WarboMinty: OK, then you should be able to delete both partitions11:41
hextor(what is df?)11:41
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eyequeuewasabi_, i call that "screwdriver" heh ... no, i don't know of any11:41
jacknMinty, or the command 'free'11:41
lamegowasabi, try: lshw11:41
livingdaylighteyequeue: i'm reading the link in the topic but still not sure11:41
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WarboMinty: Or even jsut delete hda6 and resize hda511:41
eyequeuelivingdaylight, are you on that box now?  sudo apt-get update11:41
baconbaconhextor: hextor, as lamego said, please check (or post to pastbin) the output of "df" (disk free?)11:41
lamegohextor, is the standar "disk free" checking program for linux/unix11:42
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lamegotype i on a terminal, df11:42
eyequeuelivingdaylight, then sudo apt-get upgrade11:42
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livingdaylighteyequeue: i'm using a live distro11:42
Mintywarbo that I can do with gparte11:42
eyequeuelivingdaylight, then reboot11:42
Mintydoing now11:42
wasabi_lshw did the trick11:42
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eyequeuelivingdaylight, write the two commands down then11:42
marshall_lamego:  lol dont trust guis11:42
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matt____which repo do i need for wine11:42
WarboMinty: I think you have to apply any changes which are going to "overlap", ie. you cannot create a partition in some empty space if you have not yet created the empty space11:42
livingdaylighteyequeue: update and upgrade?11:43
eyequeue!info wine11:43
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB11:43
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hextorok here it goes...11:43
hextorFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on11:43
hextor/dev/hda2              4806936   3069324   1493424  68% /11:43
hextorvarrun                  193136       132    193004   1% /var/run11:43
hextorvarlock                 193136         4    193132   1% /var/lock11:43
hextorudev                    193136       160    192976   1% /dev11:43
eyequeuelivingdaylight, with "sudo apt-get " in front of them, yes11:43
hextordevshm                  193136         0    193136   0% /dev/shm11:43
hextorlrm                     193136     18856    174280  10% /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile11:43
hextor/dev/hda6              1720268    129476   1590792   8% /datashare11:43
hextor/dev/hda3               460532    386034     49928  89% /home11:43
hextor/dev/hda1              4097488   2713616   1383872  67% /media/hda111:43
Warbo!pastebin11:43
eyequeue!pastebin > hextor11:43
hextor/dev/hdc                126520    126520         0 100% /media/cdrom011:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:43
Mintywarbo HDA6 deleted what would be good size for the had5, wnowing that I have 2 gigs of ram11:43
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livingdaylighteyequeue: sure, of course, but i can't believe x broke and now it'll be fixed just by upadating and upgrading11:43
hextor(cool, thanks)11:43
eyequeuehextor, shall we forgive you this once, or hate you forever?11:43
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sethklivingdaylight, why?11:44
marshall_hextor:  please dont paste into the channel11:44
hextor(hey i have 1 week with ubuntu!! - looks innocently)11:44
livingdaylighteyequeue: the thing is my friend had me remove X and xorg.conf files11:44
eyequeuelivingdaylight, it was a much harder fix earlier, but the new file has propagated to the mirrors now11:44
sutabiAnyone know how I can get the lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build <-- the build folder? I need it for my ndiswrapper11:44
WarboMinty: 2GB RAM? You might not need swap unless you hibernate a laptop... (I have 5GB, but I bought a 250GB HD and went crazy :) )11:44
sethklivingdaylight, that wasn't smart11:44
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sethklivingdaylight, even if that was the problem, that's the wrong way to try to fix it11:44
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livingdaylightsethk: i know, it was a despeatate move11:44
eyequeuehextor, paste single lines, but pastebin for floods like that11:44
marshall_has anybody tried silc?11:45
WarboMinty: Since you already have your drives set up you may as well extend hda5 as much as possible11:45
lamegohextor, you have 386MBs used fore sure11:45
MintyI never or verry rairly hibernate will set 1 GB for swap11:45
livingdaylightsethk: we tried all sorts of other things and for some reason the thought this was the way to go11:45
eyequeuemarshall_, nice protocol, but i haven't used it in months11:45
MintyWarbo: ok then it will be 2 gigs11:45
treitterare the "amd64" CDs meant even for the Intel 64-bit machines? (in this case a dual-processor Xeon 3 GHz)11:45
livingdaylightsethk: what can i do now?11:45
eyequeuemarshall_, nice devs too :)11:45
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marshall_eyequeue:  silc?11:45
lamegohextor, install baobab11:45
eyequeuemarshall_, yeah11:45
marshall_eyequeue:  what exactly is it?11:45
WarboMinty: Just apply any changes then exit GParted, the rest is easy in a terminal11:46
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livingdaylightsethk: ?11:46
Warbo(I mean after you have resized hda5 :) )11:46
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sethklivingdaylight, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:46
eyequeuemarshall_, i used the plugin for irssi .... secure internet live chat,   ... for irssi, it's basically "encrypted irc" though not irc protocol at all ... but it also handles non-text, any transmissions really11:46
jacknubotu You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may?11:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:46
sethklivingdaylight, that should reconstruct your x configuration11:46
marshall_eyequeue:  oh wicked11:47
fyrestrtrjackn: you are talking to a bot.11:47
Warbo!ubotu > jackn11:47
marshall_eyequeue:  thanks mate11:47
eyequeuemarshall_, does that answer it, or am i just babbling?  see silc.org too11:47
jacknIs ubotu a robot?11:47
fyrestrtryes11:47
livingdaylightsethk: so i should sudo apt-get update and then upgrade and then do the xserver.xorg thing?11:47
nekostaryes11:47
MintyWarbo: need to reboot as suggest by gparted do I have to any thing in terminal before reboot ??11:47
eyequeuejackn, good catch :)11:47
fyrestrtr!ubotu11:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:47
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nekostaro:11:47
sethklivingdaylight, yes, I'd say that's your best option11:47
WarboMinty: One thing11:47
nekostarsudo shutdown -r now11:47
hextorlamego: feels better now that people believes him (lol)..   ok installed now11:47
nekostar:D11:47
RogerRabbhow can I read the first line from a file?11:47
nekostar<3 -r11:47
WarboMinty: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"11:47
livingdaylightsethk: i been doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg up to now unsuccessfully11:47
lamegohextor, run it, check your /home contents11:48
jacknWarbo thanks11:48
eyequeueRogerRabb, head -1 filename11:48
webtoeRogerRab head -111:48
profoX`RogerRabb: cat file | head -n 111:48
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nekostarlivingdaylight,11:48
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RogerRabbthanks :)11:48
nekostardpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:48
livingdaylightnekostar: yes?11:48
nekostarnote the -11:48
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sethklivingdaylight, if you have the bad update and you are getting no screens found, it will work11:48
lamegohextor, Applications -> Accessories -> Baobab11:48
nekostar:)11:48
jacknRoger head -1 filename11:48
profoX`oh no head -1 is easier :)11:48
nekostarsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:48
sethklivingdaylight, after you get the new fixed package (which is, actually, the old package)11:48
Sleeping_Slothhello, very quick question. what is the best graphical tracroute package anyone knows of?11:48
sutabifyrestrtr:  the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-38611:48
sutabididn't install the /build directory I needed11:48
sethklivingdaylight, as several people have said, use sudo for the dpkg-reconfigure11:48
Mintytrevor@trevor-ubuntu:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/fstab11:48
Minty(gedit:6971): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:11:48
MintyAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.11:48
nekostarsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:48
lamegosethk, are you sure it's the old package :) ?11:48
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BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
LoRezWarning: `BitSpider' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
sethklamego, not positive, that's second hand11:49
nekostar~_~11:49
livingdaylightsethk: geez what a mess ubuntu have got us into11:49
WarboMinty: Yes, don't pay any attention to that11:49
BitSpiderhttp://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!11:49
profoX`kick.11:49
eyequeuelivingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)11:49
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BitSpiderv11:49
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kyja:/11:49
nekostarwell11:49
nekostarfukkit11:49
profoX`kickban BitSpider11:49
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MintyWarbo: ok the gedit is open11:49
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lamegosethk, I got the information that it was fixed, not reverted :)11:49
Lobstern811:49
kyjaspider is going to get bit lol11:49
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jacknBitspider>pastebin11:49
nekostarTorrentek3411:49
sethklamego, could be correct, as I said, I was too lazy to check myself11:49
livingdaylightnekostar: ? what did you want to tell me?11:49
nekostarfirst11:49
nekostarits german11:49
nekostarsecond its small11:49
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nekostardont bother with the tracker11:49
nekostarlivingdaylight,11:49
Andy_AlphaThis is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!11:49
WarboMinty: Look for any lines to do with hda5/hda5/swap. basically make sure it isn't trying to use hda6, and that it knows about hda511:49
nekostarcopy paste what i put11:49
eyequeuelamego, there were two patches in the update, one was pulled out and it was released as the fix11:49
nekostarsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:50
Warbo*hda5/hda6/swap11:50
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livingdaylightnekostar: what?11:50
marshall_i think bitspider was a bot11:50
nekostardo that exactly and youll have no problem11:50
nekostar~_~11:50
nekostarmarshall_, indeed11:50
lamegoeyequeue, ok :)11:50
MintyWarbo: dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       011:50
hextorlamego; ok now we are getting to the topic... it says wine: 150MB, .mozilla 55MB, winetools 42MB, .kde 23MB, .listen 12MB,  the other things are small11:50
MintyWarbo: no hda6 in lines11:50
psneaveill!<Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] >11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
lamegothe 992 was pulled out :P11:50
treitterdoes anyone know about the bugs with Ubuntu 6.06.1 server install on an IBM xSeries 346?11:50
hextorlamego: shouldnt WINE and comp have gone to the root directory?11:50
livingdaylightnekostar: sorry, i missed your paste, what exactly should i do?11:50
kyjawhy doesn't midi files play. I dont understand that.11:50
nekostarcopy paste that into terminal11:50
kingwolfIs there a PDF editor/writer application?  I've found plenty of viewers..but none that allow me to edit.11:50
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lamegohextor, oh,, wine.. wine does install on your home :)11:50
chalcednywhere do i need to go to get support for my HP all-in-one print fax scanner on ubuntu? It's not printing every other line/11:50
nekostarkyja, u need more codecs11:50
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hextorlamego: hmmm cant windows avoid being evil at least on a simulation??11:51
WarboMinty: Then you are OK. If you are rebooting then you may as well boot into the other Ubuntu system and check it's /etc/fstab file (I think it would point to hda6)11:51
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livingdaylightnekostar: you haven't told me what to copy and paste?11:51
lamegohextor, lol11:51
kingwolf!adobe11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
nekostarlivingdaylight,11:51
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Andy_AlphaThis is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!11:51
nekostarsorry bro11:51
kyjawell I installed tons. mp3 work even movies that you would not expect11:51
nekostarbut if i put something in red11:51
nekostarand bold11:51
chalcednykingwolf, i'd love it if you got that.. you can MAKE pdfs with either OpenOffice or AbiWord11:51
nekostarand repeatedly tossed it in this window11:51
nekostarand you still have a question11:51
psneaveill!<Radeon RV200>11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
jacknKingwolf -writer (open office) will edit any text, and then export it as pdf!11:51
Sleeping_Slothdoesna nyone know of a good graphical traceroute program for TCP/IP ?11:51
eternalswdanyone know if xampp has an irc channel?11:51
nekostari cant help11:51
nekostar!radion11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
nekostar!radeon11:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:52
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nekostarpsneaveill,11:52
Mintywarbo and if so I change the hda6 to Hda5 yes ??11:52
hextorlamego: is there any way to move wine out of here? even reinstalling/11:52
Warbokingwolf: PDF is designed to be non-editable. You can create them in OpenOffice, Abiword, whatever11:52
nekostaru need help with driver ?11:52
WarboMinty: Exactly11:52
livingdaylightsorry, nekostar, i'm using a live distro and xchat is not what it usually is, I did not see anything in red here addressed to me11:52
WarboMinty: And that is it! :)11:52
nekostarlivingdaylight, live distro ?11:52
alex-weejWhat the crack is it with the NOT AUTHENTICATED stuff in APT?11:52
chalcednykingwolf, you could 'select all' and paste to oo.11:52
alex-weejSick of seeing it!11:52
sutabianyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-2611:52
nekostarwhy not start over with your problem11:52
kingwolfchalcedny, jackn, Warbo Can I edit a pre-existing form?  Like an application using Openoffice?11:52
nekostaralex-weej, using backports ?11:52
Mintyrebooting11:53
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alex-weejnekostar: no, all standard repos. It happens infrequently and an update fixes it.11:53
chalcednykingwolf, see our previous posts.. paste to OO and then edit happily11:53
nekostardunno then alex-weej sorry11:53
lamegohextor, you can move to another partition, and just creat a link to it11:53
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livingdaylightnekostar: yes, coz my X is dead, i'm using kanotix live to get online11:53
jacknKingwolf, don't know, would try to open the pdf with writer. if it opens, you're good to go.11:53
Warbokingwolf: The only way I know of is the digital equivalent of tipp-ex, ie. take a screenshot and put text boxes on top.......11:53
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hextorlamego: you mean moving it "the hard way" as in copy/paste?11:53
Sleeping_Slothnobody in here has used tracroute?11:53
Sleeping_Sloth*traceroute11:53
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hextorlamego; if so, how do i create a link after that?11:54
mweyes11:54
chalcednyWarbo, wow i hadn't thought of that .. how does one put 'text boxes' on top ?11:54
livingdaylightnekostar: and i'm not used to it. The background is all black and i didn't see anything you wrote to me, certainly not in black11:54
kminorhey guys11:54
Warbochalcedny: Should be easy in a word processor11:54
nekostarit was in red livingdaylight but ok11:54
livingdaylightnekostar: give me another chance and tell me what you said11:54
kminorI downloaded an iso for Kubuntu and Xubuntu11:54
nekostarsure11:54
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nekostarboot to hdd distro11:54
jacknKingwolf: last resort: copy and paste the pdf into an open Writer document, and then pdf export it. Only if opening the pdf directly with Writer doesn't work. Will check.11:54
nekostarlivingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get update11:54
Warboor desktop publishing app like scribus11:54
nekostarlivingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core11:54
kminori usually run KDE so Kubuntu would be likely, but what's the diff inbetween regular Ubuntu and Kubuntu?11:55
nekostar!xorgbug11:55
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')11:55
chalcednyWarbo, hmmmm (i prefer vim..)11:55
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nekostar!xorgbugfix11:55
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.11:55
Warbokminor: KDE. That is it11:55
treitteris it possible to do a 32-bit install, and then switch over to using 64-bit packages?11:55
nekostarlivingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core11:55
kminorWarbo : doesnt regular ubuntu have kde and gnome?11:55
nekostarlivingdaylight, :: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:55
chalcednykminor, kubuntu = kde11:55
nekostarnyaa ?11:55
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sutabianyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-2611:56
psneaveillthanks for the input -- gotta go11:56
kminorchalcedny: yeah i know that but I thought ubuntu the normal edition had kde and gnome, or does it have a diff. interface?11:56
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crunchhey11:56
janbananMy internet connection is running very slow with ubuntu compared to windows. why is that?11:56
Warbokminor: Ubuntu as a distro has GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, E16, etc. "Kubuntu" is just a sub-distro which comes with KDE by default. The package repos are the same, the packages used are available to all, it is just the defaults which are different11:56
chalcednyWarbo, kewl ty11:56
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kminorWarbo: oh kool, thnx....so just more kde packages set default then eh?11:57
Flannel!tell janbanan about ipv611:57
cynicaljanbanan: what browser do you use?11:57
WarboI am in favour of bringing all officially endorsed Ubuntu distros under the name "Ubuntu"11:57
janbananfirefox11:57
sethkkminor, there really isn't a "normal edition".  you can use any desktop with ubuntu11:57
crunchi have just installed ubuntu to an old computer, but it will only run by command line11:57
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kminorword11:57
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crunchhow can i get the gui up?11:58
livingdaylight nekostar so, copied that down. And in that order11:58
Thunderpantswhats ur sys specs crunch ?11:58
Warbokminor: If by "more" you mean more than zero, then yes. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same, but Kubuntu has some Ubuntu packages installed which Ubuntu doesn't, and doesn't have some Ubuntu packages which Ubuntu has installed bu default. It is all Ubuntu11:58
crunchpentium mmx 166 cpu11:58
crunch128 mb ram11:58
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zombiekiller*/ns identify penis11:58
Thunderpantsaint happening mate crunch11:59
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sethkcrunch, I'd guess that it isn't recognizing your graphics card, but it is doing you a favor11:59
livingdaylightnekostar: what was that about xorbbugfix? that was not addressed to me?11:59
crunchi using 5.04 which says it only needs 32 meg of ram11:59
hextoranyone: I need to move some files to a different partition and create a link to them in a way that it is transparent to the OS? (Wine directory)11:59
crunchyeah i get some error saying the graphics card doesn't recognise something11:59
Warbocrunch: I would just try to get a bare X session going first. If that works then you may be able to get by with TWM or something...11:59
alex-weejhextor: symlink11:59
livingdaylightnekostar: install x-window-server-core followed by xserver-xorg-core and then reconfigure, yes?11:59
jvainubuntu fo ru11:59
jvainubuntu has fluxbox by default11:59
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janbananFlannel: It says that it don't support old hardware but I don't have old hardware. should I turn it off anyway?12:00
zombiekillerDCC SEND 00000000000000000000012:00
Thunderpantscrunch, give it up mate12:00
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nalioth<sigh>12:00
crunchok i don't know what bare x is12:00
crunchi have the command line12:00
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crunchbut i don't know it12:00
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bkudriai am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?12:00
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