[12:01] <UpMarc> Hi... I'm a beginner in Linux evironment
[12:01] <HellDragon> well while it downloads the things i will go clean the dishes BRB
[12:01] <lix> HellDragon: :-D
[12:01] <lix> UpMarc: Welcome! ;)
[12:01] <lupine_85> in that case your sound manager is esd. I'm in kde, so can't be as great help... but get into whatever passes for gnome control panel and disable esd
[12:01] <Stormzoeker> hi everyone ;)
[12:02] <mwe> ben_: well I don't think I can help. Personally my life is too short to spend days or weeks just getting a game to run
[12:02] <UpMarc> openning a website with Mozilla, I got the message: Java Not Found or Not Working
[12:02] <UpMarc> can someone help me to fix that?
[12:02] <lupine_85> it's possibly monopolising your sound hardware to itself so nothing else can use it
[12:02] <lix> UpMarc: Any Website?
[12:02] <lix> UpMarc: Or a scpecific one?
[12:02] <chris__> hi is there a good way to test my joystick? i plugged it in and i get in messages... " input: GreenAsia Inc.    USB Joystick      as /class/input/input5"......."usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5"
[12:02] <lupine_85>  try using the ESounD plugin for xmms first, though
[12:03] <F0LL0W3R> how can i add new user to an existance home directory like /home/oem ?
[12:03] <Curtman> Great.. the upgrade to xserver-xorg-core busted my X server.  I downgraded to xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb, and everything works great again.
[12:03] <UpMarc> I visited others that worked perfectly
[12:03] <mirkash> lupine, I'm not sure about monopol, because I cant hear any sound
[12:03] <mwe> F0LL0W3R: sudo vipw and change the homedir
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> UpMarc: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:03] <lupine_85> FOLLOW3R: man useradd
[12:03] <tyler_d> what is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?
[12:04] <lamego> F0LL0W3R, please expect troubles unless you really know what you are doing
[12:04] <mirkash> lupine, i tried changing plugins in xmms and always the same error
[12:04] <UpMarc> TheGateKeeper: Thanks a lot... will go there
[12:04] <lupine_85> mirkash: all the modules are loaded properly so it *should* be working
[12:04] <lix> UpMarc: Did you yet install the Java Environment? (It's an other License than the "common" one, that Ubuntu uses)
[12:04] <lix> UpMarc: Or try: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:04] <lupine_85> tbh, sound in linux is still a complete mess
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> UpMarc: yw :-) that wiki has flash and a whole lot more
[12:04] <UpMarc> lix: I just installed the common ones
[12:04] <mirkash> lupine, is there any conf file which may be relevant
[12:05] <Quicksilva> im a linux newb :p
[12:05] <Quicksilva> got xvidtune-1.0.1.tar.bz2 now
[12:05] <lupine_85> not really - it's all kernel-level stuff
[12:05] <Quicksilva> how do i ru it?
[12:05] <lupine_85> erm, it's installed by default
[12:05] <Quicksilva> oh
[12:05] <lupine_85> in /usr/bin/X1!
[12:05] <ocjeunesse> salut
[12:05] <lupine_85> X11 rather
[12:05] <lupine_85> sorry, should have said
[12:05] <ocjeunesse> bonjour
[12:05] <lamego> Quicksilva, there is xvtune on the repositories
[12:05] <lamego> xvidtune i mean
[12:06] <mwe> xvidtune is in /usr/bin here
[12:06] <margui> hi
[12:06] <lupine_85> mirkash: actually, one thing it could be is the mixer... try running alsamixer and seeing if anything is muted or similar
[12:06] <livingdaylight> how do i remove a directory?
[12:06] <viator> the qemu howto is outdated
[12:06] <tyler_d> what is the gaim plugin to see how much mail you have in hotmail.?
[12:06] <lamego> livingdaylight, rmdir dir
[12:06] <lamego> if its not empty
[12:06] <lix> livingdaylight: in the command line?
[12:06] <lamego> rm -rf dir
[12:06] <looktj> !wike
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <viator> you cant get the kqemu  using it
[12:06] <looktj> !wiki
[12:06] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:06] <lamego> take care, there is no trash bin for "rm"
[12:06] <margui> can't configure WPA wireless on my Ubuntu... I'd apreciate your help
[12:06] <HellDragon> bacl
[12:06] <livingdaylight> lix: is there another way?
[12:06] <HellDragon> lix: i get errors
[12:06] <livingdaylight> lamego: thx
[12:07] <fdoving> 1
[12:07] <mirkash> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[12:07] <HellDragon>  /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb
[12:07] <HellDragon> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:07] <HellDragon> i get that
[12:07] <HellDragon> :(
[12:07] <HellDragon> i dont want it to install rageircd !!!
[12:07] <Ych> whats a good program to split a large mp3 file using .cues?
[12:07] <lix> livingdaylight: you can remove it in the command line with "rmdir directoryname" or in the window manager (using the delete key or right mouse click)
[12:07] <HellDragon> its already installed !
[12:07] <Adam_G> hello all. Gdesklets is on top of all my applications... how do I make it "behave?" :P
[12:07] <viator> anyone know how to do that?
[12:07] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?
[12:07] <lamego> HellDragon, try: sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[12:07] <HellDragon> lamego: already tried
[12:07] <HellDragon> lamego: i get the same error
[12:08] <lix> HellDragon: sudo apt-get remove --purge rageircd
[12:08] <HellDragon> lix: same error
[12:08] <HellDragon> i tried everything
[12:08] <lamego> Heartsbane, apt-get remove --force-yes ?
[12:08] <HellDragon> it always try to install rageircd for whatever i do
[12:08] <HellDragon> :(
[12:08] <lamego> HellDragon, thats is because you have tried it, an unsucessful attempt
[12:08] <YeTr2> I don't suppose there is a list of other repositories for things that arn't already in uni & multi for ubuntu
[12:08] <lix> HellDragon: Can you paste the error somewhere pls?
[12:09] <margui> I can't configure my wi-fi connection with WPA encryption... any idea?
[12:09] <HellDragon> im trying something 2mins
[12:09] <lamego> YeTr2, there are plenty on the net, but you should use them with care, the wrong list can break your system very easly
[12:09] <lupine_85> mirkash: either the alsa drivers aren't working properly, or the card isn't called default anymore
[12:09] <lupine_85> 1 second
[12:09] <mwe> !wpa > margui
[12:09] <margui> WEP is working fine, so my card works well
[12:09] <livingdaylight> lix: sorry, i see no delet key either in nautilus or when i right-click
[12:09] <Quicksilva> thanks alot lupine_85 & lamego
[12:09] <Quicksilva> got it working :D
[12:09] <lix> HellDragon: using the "-f" (force option) it should work
[12:09] <HellDragon> nop
[12:09] <mwe> margui: see /msg from ubotu
[12:09] <lupine_85> sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base perhaps?
[12:09] <lamego> YeTr2, you are better to compile your own or ask to someone from the ubuntu community to get you the deb packages
[12:09] <YeTr2> lamego: I already understand the implications of using software not maintained by the distro, Im' asking if there is a list some where
[12:10] <lix> livingdaylight: and "move to Trash-bin" ?
[12:10] <lamego> YeTr2, ok, you understood it until the point that it can completely break your entire system ?
[12:10] <mirkash> lupine, i got only one card, ac97 onboard
[12:10] <lupine_85> livingdaylight: shift+f2 for delete, IIRC
[12:10] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:10] <lupine_85> erm, shift+del, rather
[12:10] <lupine_85> shift+f2 is ?rename?
[12:10] <margui> mwe: I can't find the answer on the WifiDocs...
[12:10] <YeTr2> lamego: which is why I do backups
[12:11] <tyler_d> how do I install a personal security manager?
[12:11] <viator> !kqemu
[12:11] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[12:11] <m4rk> wtf is kqemu
[12:11] <ben_> anyone know?
[12:11] <lamego> YeTr2, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:11] <m4rk> ben42: know what?
[12:11] <mwe> margui: did you read the wpa howto there?
[12:12] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:12] <lupine_85> mirkash: that's what's strange
[12:12] <margui> mwe: yep
[12:12] <looktj> !doc
[12:12] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[12:12] <mwe> margui: and where did it not work?
[12:12] <looktj> !dapper doc
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper doc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <livingdaylight> ok, i got two users added to my system, how can i remove 'em?
[12:12] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:12] <looktj> grr
[12:12] <lupine_85> userdel
[12:13] <HellDragon> :(
[12:13] <lamego> livingdaylight, man useradd
[12:13] <Frostbite> Soon, I am going to have to hand a 4 server cluster over to somebody with very little Linux experience.  Two servers will be LVS directors running MySQL and Exim/DBMail and another two servers running Lighttpd/nsd.  Everything will be run in daemontools so that they auto-restart if they crash and everything will be configured and running.  I'm installing a few gui's to simplify it for them why they learn.  Mail will be administered through a we
[12:13] <Frostbite> b gui, DBMail Administrator, which seems pretty comprehensive.  Can anyone recommend a GUI for controlling any other aspects of the server?  As long as they don't change anything, can you see any problem with them just apt-getting now and again?  Everything's redundant, which should give me time to get back and fix it.
[12:13] <looktj> where can i find commands for teraminals
[12:13] <m4rk> livingdaylight: why do you want to remove users? what did they do wrong?? :(
[12:13] <lamego> livingdaylight, read on the bottom, it tells you about useradd
[12:13] <acojlo> hi
[12:13] <looktj> !command
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <HellDragon> lix: i still get errors
[12:13] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:13] <livingdaylight> m4rk: i create and i destroy
[12:14] <livingdaylight>  :)
[12:14] <margui> mwe: wpa_supplicant doesn't work
[12:14] <acojlo> I have problem with suspend: when I do suspend which works, but resume does not, after another boot my /etc/default/acpi-support file have changed content. Sometimes it's copied content of ld.so.conf or hosts file
[12:14] <lix> HellDragon: can you paste them somewhere?
[12:14] <mwe> margui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?
[12:14] <HellDragon> lix: ok
[12:14] <lassegs> whats up guys
[12:15] <iarwain_ben-adar> hi =)
[12:15] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:15] <margui> mwe: and I don't know how to use Network Manager
[12:15] <UpMarc> TheGateKeeper:got on installation the following msg:  sun-java5-jre not found :-(
[12:15] <HellDragon> lix: http://pastebin.ca/143170
[12:16] <mwe> margui: how does it not work. what did you try. where did it fail?
[12:16] <lamego> UpMarc, you need to enable the universe/multiverse repositories
[12:16] <m4rk> don't delete users or they will hunt you down and do nasty things to you
[12:16] <UpMarc> Iamego: how do I do that?
[12:16] <margui> mew: first of all, I installed Network manager
[12:16] <HellDragon> i got the rage :(
[12:16] <lamego> UpMarc, help.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <lamego> please read the deskto guide
[12:17] <mwe> margui: if you install network manager in case it isn't already, logging out of gnome and back in should give you a status icon to click
[12:17] <UpMarc> I'm really new to all this (2 weeks)
[12:17] <looktj> !multimedia
[12:17] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:17] <ben_> i installed aiglx but now whenever i use a keyboard shortcut that uses the control button it doesn't work. does anyone know how i can fix that?
[12:17] <lupine_85>  mirkash: try running alsamixer -c 0
[12:17] <lamego> UpMarc, you should read the guide on the 1st day ;)
[12:17] <lupine_85> and if that doesn't work, -c 1
[12:17] <derrickh> Is there an easy way to create an image (ISO) from a DVD?
[12:17] <kingwolf> When Firestarter displays destination of GAIM interactions, is it listing the messenger service IP or the end-user IP?
[12:17] <lamego> ben_, no we don't
[12:17] <lupine_85> and so on up to -c 7
[12:17] <lix> HellDragon: Gat an error when you tyr "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/rageircd_2.0.1-5_i386.deb" ?
[12:17] <Superdude> HEY GUYS
[12:17] <UpMarc> Iamego: I tryed... but it's too much information to keep....
[12:17] <margui> mwe: yep, I did that, but it can't find my network
[12:17] <HellDragon> lix: yes
[12:17] <HellDragon> lix: same error
[12:18] <lupine_85> derrich: dd if=/dev/hdXX of=/path/to/wanted/iso
[12:18] <lamego> UpMarc, just use the "Search" button it is really helpfull :)
[12:18] <derrickh> lupine: thanks
[12:18] <lupine_85> adding bs=4M will probably give you faster performance
[12:18] <lix> HellDragon: there is an error unpacking the file
[12:18] <kingwolf> Or: How do I run trace on a GAIM/yahoo user?
[12:18] <margui> mwe: "can't find any network device"
[12:18] <HellDragon> lix: weird
[12:18] <mirkash> mirkash@ubuntu:/$ alsamixer -c 0
[12:18] <mirkash> wrong -c argument '0'
[12:18] <kingwolf> !trace
[12:18] <HellDragon> lix: but rage is already installed i dont know why it wants to reinstall it all time
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <mwe> margui: It wont show if you have already tried to configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:18] <lupine_85> any of the others (1 2 3 ... 7) work?
[12:19] <Mic__hael> importing from my camera works fine; but what mount point does it use??
[12:19] <lupine_85> that error is what it gives when the specified card doesn't exist
[12:19] <lix> HellDragon: but "sudo apt-get remove --purge -f rageircd" should do it
[12:19] <HellDragon> nop
[12:19] <lupine_85> (in it's eyes)
[12:19] <mwe> margui: and if you use the network manager you will only be able to connect from gnome
[12:19] <margui> mwe: so, first of all, I must delete that file?
[12:19] <UpMarc> Iamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"
[12:19] <mwe> margui: no
[12:19] <HellDragon> i get:  what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[12:19] <HellDragon> Abandon
[12:19] <HellDragon> then it fails
[12:19] <UpMarc> more than
[12:19] <lix> HellDragon: Did you also try to fix it by using synaptic? ;)
[12:19] <kingwolf> And: Why does gaim not work for "block user".
[12:19] <HellDragon> lix: yes
[12:19] <mwe> margui: just the entry for you card. DON'T delete the entire file
[12:20] <lix> HellDragon: dsol!
[12:20] <UpMarc> Iamego: that makes it very difficult for a beginner
[12:20] <HellDragon> :(
[12:20] <lamego> UpMarc, it is hard for a beginner to use a "Search Box" ?
[12:20] <lamego> UpMarc, dont think so :)
[12:21] <UpMarc> Iamego: more the 500 results for search of " sun-java5-jre"
[12:21] <margui> margui: ok, and then... where I put my connections values: IP, gateway...?
[12:21] <Nkumik1> Hey can someone help me out... I just got my Ubuntu 6.06 cd in the mail and I try to install it... When I am resizing my partitions it fails, is there someway to get around this?  The partition I am trying to resize is a windows ntfs partition... thanks!
[12:21] <lamego> UpMarc, help.ubuntu.com, which part of the "Add/Remove" applications can't you read on the index ?
[12:22] <mwe> margui: you're not gonna use dhcp?
[12:22] <lupine_85>  mirkash: also what's the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' ?
[12:22] <lassegs> Nkumik1 you know you will end up deleting the content of the ntfs disk?
[12:22] <kingwolf> Anyone know anything about fingering a person who is on gaim/yahoo messenger?  My room-mate has been receiving threats from a person on gaim and gaim doesn't seem to support "block user".
[12:22] <lix> HellDragon: and using the "--reinstall" option?
[12:22] <Quicksilva> simple question.  how do i run stuff from .tar.gz format
[12:22] <Nkumik1> just resizing it will delete the contents of it?
[12:22] <lamego> UpMarc, and the "Extra Repositories", on the index, what is your problem to read it ?
[12:22] <mirkash> lupine , nosoundcards
[12:22] <misieq> er... right, why am i here? ah.. i was wondering... if it's possible to make some sort of switch that would be controlled by a regular linux box that could operate light in my room, turn the cofee express on etc. any ideas suggestion where to look for such thingy?
[12:22] <UpMarc> Iamego: This was the first place I looked for.... and I didn't find it... :-(
[12:22] <HellDragon> lix: doesnt work
[12:22] <mwe> margui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work
[12:22] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?
[12:22] <HellDragon> lix: i need to go now ill be back in like 1 hour
[12:22] <Zonoid> My laptop's external cd-rom drive is conflicing with Ubuntu booting from the live cd. Is there anything I can do about this?
[12:23] <lupine_85> ok; how about we uninstall and reinstall alsa?
[12:23] <viator> !vmware
[12:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:23] <margui> mwe: no, I use static IP
[12:23] <mwe> margui: that way you'll be able to get online even if gnome breaks
[12:23] <profoX`> xserver-xorg kills X
[12:23] <profoX`> newest updat
[12:23] <profoX`> to xserver-xorg-core
[12:23] <lassegs> Nkumik1 afraid so. you have to use partition magic to resize it without loosing data. thats windows software btw
[12:23] <mwe> margui: I think you can add that to the network manager but I'm not sure
[12:23] <UpMarc> Iamego: I don't even know where these places are... I have done very few yet in this new environment
[12:23] <mwe> margui: I recommend you don't use nwm and figure out how to get wpa_supplicant to work, really
[12:23] <Nkumik1> alright well thank you I will get off of the ubuntu live and go resize through windows thanks!
[12:23] <UpMarc> because everything is very difficult to me
[12:23] <lassegs> Nkumik1 even then you should back up your important data cause it might screw up the partition (even though its pretty safe)
[12:24] <UpMarc> I don't know where things are :-(
[12:24] <margui> mwe: I see...
[12:24] <lassegs> damn he left to early
[12:24] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu because it says it cant mount my DVD drive. How can I fix this problem?
[12:24] <Zonoid> Ubuntu cannot mount the CD from my external cd-rom drive on my laptop. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[12:24] <mwe> margui: think about it. if gnome fails to start you can't get online if you use nwm
[12:24] <viator> anyone know how to make a vmware image using qemu?
[12:24] <Zonoid> BrandonThe: It looks like you're having my same problem!
[12:24] <Ademan> profoX`: what? what do you mean it kills x?
[12:24] <lassegs> Zonoid: hi, you fixed the hdc issue?
[12:24] <lamego> UpMarc, sorry, if reading is difficul to you, even a 15 lines text, i can't help you
[12:24] <erUSUL> margui: the version network manager in dapper can not work with static ip. is known bug
[12:25] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Not exactly. It looks like it had to do with my CD-rom drive the whole time.
[12:25] <UpMarc> ok... ty, anyway :-(
[12:25] <Zonoid> For awhile I thought I fixed it.
[12:25] <lamego> UpMarc, specially with words like "Add/Rremove application"
[12:25] <mwe> margui: of if you decide to try a different wm it wont work anymore either
[12:25] <profoX`> Ademan: last update to xserver-xorg-core makes X unstartable
[12:25] <lassegs> Zonoid: you only have the external cd drive?
[12:25] <UpMarc> Iamego: I went there... but couldn't find it :-(
[12:25] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Yes. My laptop doesn't have one built in.
[12:25] <margui> mwe: on the other hand, I don't know how to set up my network card using nwm...
[12:25] <profoX`> Ademan: 3 friends have the same problem
[12:25] <jvai> hey all.. sorry for bein late... for class
[12:25] <Jenocin> hey people, is it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to 6 without a reinstall?
[12:25] <jvai> lol
[12:25] <Ademan> profoX`: wow, how did it get released?...
[12:25] <Ademan> Jenocin: yep
[12:26] <lamego> Jenocin, it is, but I do advise you to do a reinstall instead
[12:26] <lassegs> Zonoid: gees man, that sounds like a icky problem.. good luck with that
[12:26] <eggzeck> I didn't even know that if you hover over a "*.mp3" or a "*.ogg" and stay for about 1-3 seconds, it automatically plays a preview
[12:26] <profoX`> Ademan: I have no idea. it should really get tested better before they release something broken like this ._. i can image alot of people not knowing what to do when their X doesn't want to load up anymore after their last update
[12:26] <blocky> does anyone know what this line in my Xorg log means
[12:26] <Ademan> Jenocin: I believe you just have to change your sources.list from breezy to dapper i believe
[12:26] <margui> mwe: ok, so it's better to use wpa_supplicant directly...
[12:26] <Zonoid> Lassegs: Do you know if it's possible to download the distro on the computer and install it on that same system?
[12:26] <blocky> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  Failed to remmap MC AGP aperture base!
[12:26] <Ademan> profoX`: ctrl+alt+f1  :-)
[12:26] <Jenocin> Ademan: how likely is it that will crash the system :-P
[12:27] <TubaSoldier> XORG PROBLEMS? DOWNGRADE https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:27] <mwe> margui: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo explains it well. ignore the part about network manager
[12:27] <lassegs> zonoid: i dont. ask the channel
[12:27] <Ademan> Jenocin: tons of people do it, but I dont know exactly how, ask someone who knows better than me :-)
[12:27] <Zonoid> Is it possible to download Ubuntu and install it on the same system you downloaded it to?
[12:27] <Zambezi> I always forget, how can I change the rights too one specific folder without harming the system. The folder is on an extra harddrive, so it's not on the system harddrive.
[12:27] <lamego> Zonoid, if you save it to a CD, yes
[12:27] <Jenocin> Ademan: hehe ok, I'll make sure I have a bare metal first
[12:27] <Ademan> Zonoid: of course, but you have to burn it to a cd of course
[12:28] <profoX`> Ademan: sure, but alot of people will be clueless about what to do (right now, not alot of people would know how to downgrade the package again, and if the package gets fixed so you can update again; alot of people dont know how to do that in the terminal)
[12:28] <margui> mwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?
[12:28] <mwe> Zonoid: you mean from within another distro?
[12:28] <mirkash> lupin, how tu unuinstall
[12:28] <Zonoid> Lamego and Ademan: The problem is that my CD-rom drive on my laptop is external, so it won't mount the CD.
[12:28] <mwe> Zonoid: it is. why not run the installer though?
[12:28] <Jenocin> Zonoid: u tryng to boot the cd?
[12:28] <Ademan> Zonoid: you can't boot from a usb device? my BIOS supports that...
[12:28] <mwe> Zonoid: oh
[12:28] <lamego> Zonoid, so no, you can't install it
[12:28] <Zonoid> Jenocin: Yes.
[12:28] <lupine_85> removing the alsa-base module should do it
[12:28] <lupine_85> make sure that it's a purge
[12:28] <Jenocin> Zonoid: u have a floppy
[12:28] <Zonoid> Jenocin: That drive is external as well.
[12:28] <lupine_85> e.g. apt-get remove --purge alsa-base
[12:29] <Ademan> Zonoid: so your computer is just a bunch of USB ports? :-p
[12:29] <lassegs> Ademan: its a laptop from 98 so i dont think Zonoids laptop can boot from usb
[12:29] <Jenocin> Zonoid: can u boot from the floppy though? I have a boot disk that will boot the usb cddrive
[12:29] <Zonoid> Ademan: Basically :-)
[12:29] <bandaid> I want to dual boot ubuntu, I already partitioned space on my other hard drive and installed it but don't know how to make it boot
[12:29] <Jenocin> Zonoid: or possible pxe on your net card?
[12:29] <Zonoid> Jenocin: It seems to at least boot the CD, but it hangs at "Mounting" for awhile, and the farthest it gets if you wait forever is the splash screen.
[12:29] <Ademan> Zonoid: well there's got to be a way, but I wouldn't know, i'm not a boot master
[12:29] <lassegs> bandaid: did you install grub or some bootloader?
[12:30] <margui> mwe: could you tell me how configure my IP, gateway, etc. with wpa_supplicant?
[12:30] <Jenocin> Zonoid: did u try the safe mode?
[12:30] <bandaid> how do I do that
[12:30] <Ademan> Zonoid: check that the ISO has the right checksum
[12:30] <lupine_85> then just reinstall alsa-base
[12:30] <Zonoid> Ademan: How do you check that?
[12:30] <mwe> margui: you don't do that with wpa_supplicant. you do it in the interfaces file
[12:30] <profoX`> Ademan: if the problem is as big as it sounds (if the problem applies to alot of / all people) then it must be bad testing by the devs. And it should never have gotten into the (stable) dapper-updates branch. If this problem really is a maintainer's fault, than I think they should be more careful about what they release.
[12:30] <mwe> margui: wpa_supplicant only takes care of WPA
[12:30] <Ademan> Zonoid: under windows? i don't know google for md5 checksum
[12:30] <achandra> banaid: typically the bootloader grub just works out of the box...is it popping up with the bootloader at all?
[12:31] <lamego> Zonoid, md5sum.exe
[12:31] <Zonoid> Lamego: Thanks.
[12:31] <lassegs> bandaid: its been a while since i installed ubuntu but i think it asks you if you wants to install a bootloader (grub)
[12:31] <achandra> banaid: giving you options?
[12:31] <Ademan> Zonoid: and then compare what it outputs to what it says on the download page
[12:31] <Ademan> Zonoid: and you burned it as an iso not a file to the cd right?
[12:31] <Zonoid> Ademan: Yes. It boots on another computer.
[12:31] <profoX`> Ademan: Imagine all the new to linux people that are clueless now. They'll think linux/ubuntu is bad, because it will crash their X if they upgraded in the last hour (problem already reported on launchpad now)
[12:31] <Seven_Six_Two> How do I set a script to automatically execute when kde is started, when the script requires a sudo? it's for a linksys wifi card on my mom's laptop and I need to make it easy
[12:32] <Zonoid> Ademan: I think the checksum is fine, because it boots on another computer.
[12:32] <TubaSoldier> It is already reported https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:32] <Ademan> Zonoid: probably
[12:32] <lamego> profoX`, could you redirect your complains to the proper mailing list ?
[12:32] <profoX`> Seven_Six_Two: put kdesu in front of the script
[12:32] <Ademan> profoX`: geeze, how did they release it? i can't believe that
[12:32] <TubaSoldier> Ademan: it is already reported with instructions on how to downgrade
[12:33] <profoX`> lamego: i'm just discussing it, and if you don't like that, just /ignore
[12:33] <Seven_Six_Two> profoX`: will she have to run that from console every time she boots?
[12:33] <DarkMageZ> profoX`, yo, u mensioned X dying from the latest update, how do i downgrade a package from the terminal?
[12:33] <Zonoid> Also, does anyone know a way of loading Ubuntu on an iMac G5? It sounds like many people have had trouble with this.
[12:33] <Ademan> TubaSoldier: Yeah but the packages in the repositories ALWAYS seem to be a few versions behind, and here we finally catch up with development a little, and BOOM
[12:33] <bandaid> does grub come with ubuntu?
[12:33] <Ademan> bandaid: of course
[12:33] <lassegs> bandaid ;)
[12:33] <tritium> Zonoid: it's still problematic.  Wait for edgy before trying it.
[12:33] <bandaid> so I can just do grub in terminal?
[12:33] <lamego> profoX`, no really, this is a support related channel, and you are not supporting neither asking for support, so you are disturbing the channel, the same way the maintainter disturbed you with the upgrade
[12:33] <FantasticFoo> i can't seem to get compiz working for the life of me... anyone know a good tutorial for fglrx users?
[12:33] <Ademan> "do grub" ? install grub?
[12:33] <lupine_85> ademan/profox`: is that in edgy or dapper?
[12:34] <FantasticFoo> i've tried all the tuts
[12:34] <Zonoid> Tritium: I heard you were supposed to disable the sound. Do you know how I could do that?
[12:34] <profoX`> lupine_85: dapper
[12:34] <eger> wow there is a lot of people here
[12:34] <lupine_85> eee gad
[12:34] <tritium> Zonoid: nope
[12:34] <Ademan> lupine_85: I haven't a clue, I didnt realize there even was an X upgrade :-p
[12:34] <bandaid> can i type grub in the terminal install it that way while using the love CD?
[12:34] <lupine_85> yeah, me neither :F
[12:34] <bandaid> Live***
[12:34] <profoX`> DarkMageZ: I think you could do: cd /var/cache/apt/archives; sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core-OLDER_VERSION.deb
[12:34] <profoX`> something like that
[12:34] <lupine_85> still a bit unnerving, mind
[12:34] <DarkMageZ> profoX`, i don't have an older version in the archives :(
[12:34] <eger> im playing with ubuntu for the first time and i was just curious what the alternative iso is for?
[12:35] <tritium> eger: older text mode install
[12:35] <Ademan> eger: its the "ugly" version of the installer, use the "desktop" one
[12:35] <Seven_Six_Two> I just want the script to run, but I don't want her to have to type in the password every time, or go to console
[12:35] <eger> tritium, thanks!
[12:35] <tritium> eger: it's still useful in certain situations
[12:35] <looktj> !java
[12:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:35] <Ademan> eger: the "Desktop" one will let you try ubuntu out from the cd
[12:35] <eger> tritium, i could see that
[12:35] <margui> mwe: but you told me that I must delete the entry for my card in /etc/network/interfaces... right? so, how can I set up my network?
[12:35] <lamego> eger, it just the same installatiion but using a text mode installer
[12:35] <eger> though i am really impressed with the graphical installer
[12:35] <FurryNemesis> eger, non grahics install, sometimes works better, and also allows more customisation
[12:35] <mirkash> lupine, i did reinstall and same problem
[12:35] <eger> first time ive seen this nice of installer for linux distro
[12:35] <profoX`> lamego: it's support if I warn people not to upgrade xserver-xorg-core from dapper-updates yet. It's sound advice.
[12:35] <lamego> eger, on some older systems the graphical installer can't be run
[12:36] <lassegs> DarkMageZ: cant you just wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and type dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb ?
[12:36] <mwe> margui: no
[12:36] <DarkMageZ> lassegs, ty :)
[12:36] <eger> first time ive had my question answered in less than 30 seconds by 4 people in IRC too!!!
[12:36] <mwe> margui: that is if you want to use network manager
[12:36] <tich> i downloaded a rar that is password protected --does anyone know how i could open it without a password?
[12:36] <mirkash> lupine, can I somehow debug why isnt created device
[12:36] <margui> mwe: I see
[12:36] <tritium> eger: there are a few extra features only available on the alternate install image.  They're described on the download page
[12:36] <Ademan> I think the desktop install should let you pick exactly which packages are installed as part of the base system or something, maybe allow an "install profile" that defines exactly what to be installed (and is modifyable) so that installation to large networks is easier
[12:36] <lupine_85> my first GUI installer was Corel Linux
[12:37] <lupine_85> absolute nightmare
[12:37] <eger> heh
[12:37] <Seven_Six_Two> if I sudo chown root.root the script and stick it somewhere it shouldn't require sudo, but where to put it?
[12:37] <margui> mwe: ok, thanks a lot...
[12:37] <eger> im used to the redhat installer
[12:37] <lupine_85> IMO, the systems haven't improved much since
[12:37] <eger> which isnt all that bad...but i dont care for it too much
[12:37] <lupine_85> mirkash: I really don't know what to suggest then :(
[12:37] <lassegs> DarkMageZ: did it do the trick?
[12:37] <lupine_85> maybe try posting on the forums?
[12:37] <lupine_85> I don't know a great deal about alsa
[12:38] <mirkash> lupine, ok thanks, if I find solution i'll let you know :)
[12:38] <lupine_85> AFAICT, it's using the OSS system instead, and it really shouldn't be... but I don't know how to change that
[12:38] <lupine_85> and I could be completely wrong ;)
[12:38] <lupine_85> good luck
[12:38] <bobovski> Hi all. I had a problem earlier that now seems to be system wide. Before, I'd double click on a .tex file and get the "run in terminal" display" etc window. now it happens with all my playlist files as well. have my folder permissions gotten screwed up somehow?
[12:38] <maswan> Ademan: Well, that is possible, look at preseeding or some other automation of installations, either by network support or custom cds
[12:38] <Seven_Six_Two> tich: I've never found a rar password cracker for linux, but often the password is part of the file name
[12:39] <lupine_85> john or brutus might do it?
[12:39] <bobovski> actually, all my home folders seem to be set at 755
[12:39] <lupine_85> (off the top of my head)
[12:39] <bobovski> how can I set them all back to the defaults?
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> hey
[12:39] <bobovski> (and the real question is "are the file permissions causing my problem")
[12:39] <BHSPitMonkey> Can I move my entire ubuntu filesystem to another (larger) partition/drive? or is fstab going to end up freaking out on me?
[12:40] <david_> My apt is broken.  It can find references to some packages (rar and notlame come to mind), but it cannot download those packages.  I am 100% sure it is not an issue with sources.lst, because I just copied the default contents in an attempt to fix it.  I tried reinstalling both the kernel image and apt itself and neither worked.  I added the quinn compiz repository at the end, and I uncommented every ubuntu repository..  Does anyone know the
[12:40] <david_> issue?
[12:40] <margui> Babylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...
[12:40] <BHSPitMonkey> david_, apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic?
[12:40] <david_> apt-get
[12:40] <lupine_85> daft question first: have you run apt-get update since your change to sources.list ?
[12:40] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: if you do it right and update fstab it should work
[12:40] <BHSPitMonkey> not sure] 
[12:40] <lamego> david_, you should keep *ONLY* the Ubuntu repositories
[12:40] <david_> lupine, yup
[12:41] <lassegs> well im off. see you in the morning guys
[12:41] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, how would I need to update fstab?
[12:41] <lamego> then check if apt-get update runs successfully
[12:41] <m4rk> is there any way to make ubuntu speak to me
[12:41] <m4rk> in a sassy voice
[12:41] <david_> lupine, it runs fine
[12:41] <jvai> lol...smh
[12:41] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: well is your ubuntu on one partition?
[12:41] <lamego> m4rk, you are so funny (not)
[12:42] <david_> lamego, how could I get compiz/aiglx then?
[12:42] <margui> Babylon for Ubuntu? Do you know any translator program or a way to run Babylon on Ubuntu? I tried wine, but doesn't work...
[12:42] <lupine_85> run apt-cache gencaches and retry?
[12:42] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, yeah, my ubuntu installation is on a partition, and I'm replacing that drive with a larger one.,
[12:42] <lamego> david_, first you should make sure your repositories, then if you use compiz/aigglz you should know that they are beta an can break your system
[12:42] <lamego> i mean, your default repositories are ok
[12:42] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: basically just change fstab to reflect the new device name
[12:42] <looktj> !install
[12:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:43] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: and you don't wanna copy /proc /dev and /sys over
[12:43] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, I'm not going to know what to put :/
[12:43] <lamego> margui, install babytrans
[12:43] <david_> lupine_85, gencaches isn't a valid option on mine?
[12:43] <margui> lamego: is babytrans a free software?
[12:43] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, if it's going to cause issues, I could always clean install on the new drive I guess.
[12:43] <lupine_85> sudo apt-cache gencaches
[12:43] <lupine_85> works over here
[12:43] <david_> lamego, it worked fine for a while.  When I was trying to compile the proset wireless drivers with a patch was when it broke, i think
[12:43] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: first make sure you copy everthing correctly, preserving permissions
[12:44] <m4rk> has it got a text to speech synthesiser?
[12:44] <lamego> david_, try the apt-get update
[12:44] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: then take note of the device name of the new drive and change fstab to reflect it
[12:44] <lupine_85> ($mwe-comment += "use cp -a")
[12:45] <david_> I just ran gencaches and then update, then upgrade, then I tried to install "rar" again.  It did not work.  The error message was:
[12:45] <david_> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:45] <david_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:45] <david_> is only available from another source
[12:45] <david_> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[12:45] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, would there be any way to make it just detect/generate a new fstab?
[12:45] <mwe> david_: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[12:45] <Ademan> anyone know what .bashrc is?
[12:46] <lupine_85> the ubuntu-provided rar is unrar-free, isn't it?
[12:46] <Ademan> is it a login script? or what?
[12:46] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: no.
[12:46] <lupine_85> script that is run on login
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> k
[12:46] <david_> mwe, yes
[12:46] <mwe> BHSPitMonkey: don't you know the device name for the new drive?
[12:46] <Ademan> lupine_85: and its per user correct?
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> well, thanks, I'll give it a try.
[12:46] <lupine_85> ~/.bashrc is per-user, yes :)
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> mwe, I think I might be able to handle it.
[12:46] <kupesoft> My AMD64 X.ORG update caused my ubuntu to not load x, saying "No Screens Found"
[12:47] <lupine_85> rar is not part of any ubuntu repositories
[12:47] <kupesoft> Now ubuntu is broken...
[12:47] <kupesoft> how to fix?
[12:47] <mwe> !info rar
[12:47] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:47] <BHSPitMonkey> shutting down now. thanks.
[12:47] <lupine_85> at least, it doesn't show up on mine
[12:47] <lupine_85> strange. it's not here
[12:47] <david_> lupine_85, did you get the same error as I did?
[12:47] <mwe> david_: it's in multiverse. you didn't enable multiverse correctly or didn't update
[12:47] <kupesoft> I've got a critical ubuntu problem.  I apt-get upgrade'd X.ORG just now on AMD64 and now ubuntu won't load X.ORG or any graphical interface saying "No Screens Found"
[12:48] <margui> lamego: and where could I find the dictionaries for BabyTrans?
[12:48] <david_> mwe, I uncommented multiverse in sources.list and I ran apt-get update.  I am sure of this.
[12:48] <kitche> kupesoft: your probably missing something in your xorg.conf
[12:48] <lamego> margui, good question, i dont use it, just saw some tip about it :|
[12:48] <dravas> What are the best plugins for Mozilla Firefox?
[12:48] <mwe> kupesoft: I think you need to downgrade for now
[12:48] <kupesoft> kitche: How can I fix this?
[12:48] <dravas> for videa
[12:48] <dravas> o
[12:48] <lupine_85> no , it was discussed just a second ago
[12:48] <dravas> and sound
[12:48] <kupesoft> mwe: How can I downgrade?
[12:48] <lupine_85> the update is a borker
[12:48] <mwe> kupesoft: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:49] <david_> lupine_85, if my apt-get is shot, what do you think I should do?
[12:49] <kupesoft> mwe: thanks, I'll try (=
[12:49] <DarkMageZ> lassegs, it's rebooting now
[12:49] <david_> I have been just manually downloading and installing .debs, and I archive them to remember what I installed
[12:49] <dravas> What are the best Mozilla Media Plugins
[12:49] <david_> This just seems like a bad way to do things
[12:51] <lupine_85> aptitude -f will try to fix stuff for you
[12:51] <kuun-lann> hello
[12:51] <kuun-lann> i just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?
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[12:52] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:52] <dodgyville> How do I stop x so I can install NVIDIA drivers?
[12:53] <david_> lupine_85, that did not work
[12:53] <lupine_85> kuun-lan: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 (scroll to the bottom)
[12:53] <Socrates> Yeah
[12:53] <lupine_85> hmm. surely an easier fix for the xorg thing would be "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1"
[12:53] <Socrates> So, what
[12:53] <GStubbs43> Hey, I'm trying to install audacious and when I do ./configure, it says configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango What packages do I need to install?
[12:53] <Wolvez> hi. someone knows how I can do virtualhost with virtualhost with user and groups
[12:53] <kuun-lann> i just uptaded xorg but now i have a no devices detected error..anyone can help me ?
[12:53] <kuun-lann> p
[12:53] <lupine_85> ^ :kuun-lan: ^
[12:54] <floppyears> hi
[12:54] <lamego> GStubbs43, apt-cache search pango dev
[12:54] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[12:54] <dodgyville> GStubbs43: I find apt-cache search pango might help
[12:54] <lupine_85> can anyone put it into the topic?
[12:54] <floppyears> does anybody here do inline skating ? I have some questions about that
[12:54] <Socrates> Hey, there
[12:54] <lupine_85> david_: not sure then. maybe try the forum?
[12:54] <Socrates> Well, pardon me sir
[12:54] <snoop> does anybody know how to print photos with ubuntu?
[12:54] <lupine_85> or uninstall all the packages you've installed and see if that helps ;)
[12:54] <DarkMageZ> lassegs, yup, it's up and running now, thanks
[12:55] <GStubbs43> Thanks
[12:55] <lupine_85> snoop: the gimp works well for photo printing
[12:55] <david_> lupine_85, sure, thanks for your help
[12:55] <snoop> the sizes are always off, 4x6 is taking up less than 25% of the 4x6 photo paper
[12:55] <lupine_85> (as long as you've got a decent printer driver)
[12:55] <kuun-lann> thx lupine i watch this link
[12:55] <Socrates> Hey gimps
[12:55] <snoop> lupine_85: i am using gimp, but still no luck
[12:55] <lupine_85> hmm. are you specifying the image size using pixels or inches/cm ?
[12:56] <snoop> lupine_85:inches\
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[12:56] <lupine_85> another alternative would be inkscape (which explicitly sets the paper size)
[12:56] <kupesoft> mwe: Worked!
[12:56] <no0tic> kopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?
[12:56] <kupesoft> mwe: Thank you sooooo much
[12:56] <sethk> snoop, I've noticed that, unless I crop in Gimp, I get a tiny size
[12:56] <mwe> kupesoft: yw
[12:56] <sethk> snoop, but if I crop, which logically ought to make things smaller, I get the expected size
[12:56] <kuun-lann> its working lupine :D
[12:56] <sethk> snoop, I'm using jpeg images from a digital camera, typically
[12:56] <kuun-lann> thank you very much for your hjekp :)
[12:57] <lupine_85> np :)
[12:57] <snoop> sethk: me too but printing them was way easier on windows
[12:57] <Quicksilva> im trying to install ntfsprogs and it gives me this error.... error: dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[12:57] <Quicksilva> anyone know what that is :S
[12:57] <sethk> snoop, I just sftp the files over to a windows box and print them from there
[12:58] <lupine_85> cheater ;)
[12:58] <sethk> snoop, there is a driver for my photo printer for linux, but I've not taken the time, yet, to make it work.
[12:58] <kupesoft> mwe: How can I mark the package to not be upgraded...?
[12:58] <sethk> snoop, and even if I do, I'll get only a subset of the features I need.
[12:58] <mwe> Quicksilva: how did you try to install it?
[12:58] <Quicksilva> I just want to use my storage drive which is in ntfs format
[12:58] <looktj> what is the url to install commands?
[12:58] <snoop> seth: i am going to try cropping and see what happens
[12:58] <sethk> snoop, ok, let me know.
[12:58] <mwe> kupesoft: if you use synaptic, hold back or something. I'm not too familiar with it
[12:59] <unwakata> How do I speed up the Synaptic Package Manager? It keeps failing the downloads...
[12:59] <Quicksilva> mwe:  i downloaded ntfsprogs_1.13.1-3_i386
[12:59] <kupesoft> I use apt-get of course
[12:59] <Quicksilva> .deb
[12:59] <kupesoft> mew: I use apt-get
[12:59] <mwe> Quicksilva: don't do that
[12:59] <kupesoft> *mwe: I use apt-get
[12:59] <mwe> Quicksilva: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs instead
[12:59] <tich> how would i open a rar that is password protected if i don't have the password?
[12:59] <lupine_85> you'd bruteforce it
[12:59] <sethk> unwakata, you can't exactly "speed it up".  what you need to look at is why you are experiencing a problem that (at least most) other people aren't seeing.
[12:59] <looktj> kupesoft: use aptitude
[12:59] <mwe> kupesoft: I don't think apt-get knows how to hold back a package
[01:00] <lupine_85> http://www.digg.com/security/RAR_Password_Cracker_FREE under wine?
[01:00] <lupine_85> mwe: it doesn't
[01:00] <mwe> kupesoft: I think aptitude does though
[01:00] <kupesoft> mwe: Oh well,
[01:00] <looktj> !aptitude > kupesoft
[01:00] <looktj> !mplayer
[01:00] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[01:00] <lupine_85> but you can tell it to install specific versions with the apt-get install <package>=<version> format
[01:00] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:00] <Quicksilva> :O
[01:00] <tich> lupine_85, how do i "bruteforce it"?
[01:01] <Quicksilva> can you do that for any apps mwe?
[01:01] <greyscale> 'sup
[01:01] <Quicksilva> im using linux for the first time today
[01:01] <unwakata> Well the downloads keep timing out and then I have to restart the Synaptic Package Manager. Why doesn't it retry automatically and download with multiple connections...?
[01:01] <greyscale> I've just had XSERVER fail.
[01:01] <greyscale> anyone wanna help
[01:01] <greyscale> ?
[01:01] <ardchoille> Whoa! rute is in the repos :)
[01:01] <ardchoille> Didn't know that
[01:01] <Thaur> ardchoille, rute ?
[01:01] <mwe> Quicksilva: well most things you can apt-get
[01:01] <ardchoille> Thaur: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[01:02] <mwe> Quicksilva: installing random .debs is a bad idea
[01:02] <Socrates> Quicksilva
[01:02] <Quicksilva> ye
[01:02] <Thaur> ardchoille, chhers
[01:02] <greyscale> helloooooo... Critical XSERVER failiure >>
[01:02] <tjs> is it possible to get a cut down image that will bootstrap the dapper install from a usb keyring?
[01:02] <greyscale> tjs - someone did that.
[01:02] <greyscale> See the forums
[01:02] <KolaNorsu> Hello, can someone help me? ='( I just updatet the newest X.org-server-core with Update-Manager, and when i reset my X for the newest X.org-server-core, my X won't start, I also installed the newest nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common too, and in xorg.conf there's Section "nvidia", but it doesn't work, yhyhyh ='( help me ='(
[01:02] <tjs> greyscale, ty, I have a tiny embedded device that I want to get dapper onto and it has no CD
[01:03] <greyscale> what is it
[01:03] <greyscale> ?
[01:03] <mwe> tjs: I did that. used the netinstall image
[01:03] <greyscale> And if so, try something smaller >>
[01:03] <tjs> ah
[01:03] <burnhamd> is there a better interface for grub or should i use lilo etc... to get a bootcamp like boot screen
[01:03] <mwe> tjs: oh
[01:03] <mwe> tjs: I don
[01:03] <Flannel> tjs: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[01:03] <tjs> Im not sure of the brand, its a small SBC, p2 equiv
[01:03] <lupine_85>  tjs - debootstrap for you too :)
[01:03] <tjs> :)
[01:03] <lupine_85> is it going on a CF card/
[01:03] <mwe> tjs: the dapper kernel is not suitable for embedded devices I think
[01:04] <lupine_85> s///?
[01:04] <greyscale> anyone at all going to help?
[01:04] <tjs> it has a CF slot
[01:04] <tjs> and also a notebook drive in it
[01:04] <eternalswd> gnome-panel Time and Date gui isn't remembering the settings.  what do I do to change the time zone and the time?
[01:04] <GStubbs43> Okay, I installed everything that apt-cache search pango said to, but it still says the same thing, configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango
[01:04] <lupine_85> grayscale https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:04] <mwe> tjs: that kernel has EVERY possible option turned on. you don't want that in a tiny system
[01:04] <lupine_85> you don't want to use standard ubuntu on a CF card
[01:04] <tjs> mwe: ah
[01:04] <lupine_85> it'll break it rather nastily
[01:05] <sethk> tjs, for embedded you really want a different type of root file system, etc.
[01:05] <lupine_85> (frequent writes)
[01:05] <Quicksilva> so i installed that but it still tells me i need to mount the drive
[01:05] <mwe> tjs: dapper is not the best choice for embedded linux
[01:05] <lupine_85> If it's a hard drive, then ubuntu will work fine - a p2 equivalent isn't exactly embedded, TBH ;)
[01:05] <Quicksilva> "unable to mount selected volume"
[01:05] <lupine_85> however, you might want to look at AspisOS as an alternative
[01:05] <tjs> Im not developing a platform for anything serious, I have picked up this machine and I want to turn it into a fileserver for home
[01:06] <lupine_85> it's incredible
[01:06] <greyscale> lupine_85, lol thanks ^^
[01:06] <mwe> tjs: specs?
[01:06] <lupine_85> can you put the hard drive in your PC temporarily?
[01:07] <lupine_85> (if not, it'll be a pain to get ubuntu on - but possible)
[01:07] <sethk> usually an embedded device using a CF card uses IDE emulation, so it isn't difficult to load linux on it.
[01:07] <tjs> mwe, arm processor, x86 emulation, p2 equiv, 256 ram, 40gig notebook drive
[01:07] <looktj> what is the url to install commands?
[01:08] <lupine_85> yes, but when you write repeatedly to a CF card, it b0rks it
[01:08] <mwe> tjs: forget about ubuntu and look for distro for embedded devices
[01:08] <sethk> tjs, if it has a 40 gig drive, what is a CF card used for?
[01:08] <sethk> lupine_85, that's true, but it has to be a very large number of writes
[01:08] <lupine_85> and you don't want to be replacing it every month or so
[01:08] <lupine_85> for instance, /var/log ?
[01:08] <sethk> lupine_85, that' true, I disable logging on my CF card devices
[01:08] <mwe> tjs: I don't think dapper will even work on that
[01:09] <lupine_85> it should do, if the x86 emulation is up to scratch
[01:09] <poningru> anyone know how to do bridging between wifi and ethernet
[01:09] <lupine_85> I got it working on a 32MB Pentium-120 ;)
[01:09] <tjs> no idea, I don't know the original purpose, I've picked this thing up for $300 second hand, I intend on running it in my cupboard as a file server and also I would like to do a bit of home automation in python or something
[01:09] <lupine_85> poningru: man brctl
[01:09] <tjs> not 100% sure, I just want to see what I can get it to do :)
[01:10] <mwe> lupine_85: I thought the installer wanted at least 192MB of RAM though
[01:10] <lupine_85> you'll need to install bridge-utils as well
[01:10] <lupine_85> mwe: you do if you want to use the installer
[01:11] <snoop> i keep getting error 250 after i install packages with synaptec
[01:11] <lupine_85> (this is where I got my debootstrap experience from ;) )
[01:11] <Samus_Aran> where bouts can I find a terminal in Gnome ?  (I'm helping someone on the phone)
[01:11] <greyscale> well my problems fixed.
[01:11] <mwe> lupine_85: and at least a P3. but with debootstrap I guess you could if you're persistant :)
[01:11] <greyscale> byeeee
[01:11] <cafuego> mwe: As long as you don't insist on running the livecd first or installing Gnome, it has fairly modest ram requirements.
[01:11] <tjs> ahh
[01:11] <no0tic> kopete spellcheck is disabled and I can't turn it on, what can I do?
[01:11] <jaakkos> tjs: maybe something like damn small linux?
[01:11] <mwe> cafuego: yeah
[01:11] <ardchoille> Samus_Aran: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:12] <tjs> it seems to have an old copy of potato running on it
[01:12] <lupine_85> samus: start(or whatever it is)->Run command (or whatever it is)->xterm
[01:12] <ardchoille> Samus_Aran: ot, ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal
[01:12] <tjs> I wonder if I can debian potato -> ubuntu dapper ;)
[01:12] <mwe> cafuego: wouldn't you get problems with anything less than P3 though?
[01:12] <lupine_85> seriously check out AspisOS. I use it on my SBC and it is great
[01:12] <Flannel> mwe: no
[01:12] <cafuego> mwe: Nope, not at all.
[01:12] <ardchoille> lupine_85: There is no "Run" menu item in gnome 2.14.. unless youi made one
[01:12] <lupine_85> mwe: no - you can install on a 386 if you want
[01:13] <lupine_85> ardchoille: really?!
[01:13] <mwe> oh ;)
[01:13] <cafuego> mwe: When you get down to the 486 range you may experience extreme slowness, though ;-)
[01:13] <Samus_Aran> ardchoille: thank you
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[01:13] <lupine_85> (I'm on KDE, so working from memory)
[01:13] <cafuego> mwe: It's not even particularly fast on 233MHz G3 Macs.
[01:13] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Really, they took it out
[01:13] <harleypig> I seem to have fubar'd my kismet install somehow ... shouldn't I be able to do dpkg-reconfigure kismet and have it install the config files again?
[01:13] <ardchoille> Samus_Aran: Thank you :)
[01:13] <lupine_85> oh dear
[01:13] <mwe> cafuego: I see ...
[01:13] <bthornton> Hey, I know this isn't directly Ubuntu related so my apologies, but... I'm being forced to buy a new MB/CPU and am looking at a Pentium D (Dual Core).  In Linux, will this dual-core process appear as two distinct CPUs -- thus requiring me to run an SMP kernel?
[01:14] <NemesisUK> Quicksilva, you need to install libc6
[01:14] <ardchoille> lupine_85: But, you can make a new menu item with alacarte and give it the command:  gnome-panel-control --run-dialog
[01:14] <sMoKiNsTiEn> hello
[01:14] <lupine_85> it's the principle of the thing...
[01:14] <lupine_85> next you'll be telling me they don't have a root terminal in the menu! (j/k, I know that's not there any more!)
[01:15] <ardchoille> lupine_85: It's there, you just have to open alacarte and un-hide it
[01:15] <gholen> Can i register on #ubuntu?
[01:15] <lupine_85> out of sight, out of mind?
[01:15] <sMoKiNsTiEn> umm how can i get the ati driver working on ubuntu ..gives me an error when i try to install it ..can anyone help me ..this is the first time ive tried an linux based os
[01:15] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Well, using sudo is much better
[01:16] <lupine_85> bthornton: I *think* it presents itself as a single CPU, but not sure
[01:16] <ardchoille> gholen: "register"? You can register a nickname on freenode
[01:16] <harleypig> bthornton: I've got an amd x2, it shows up in most monitoring apps (including top) as two cpus
[01:16] <Samus_Aran> how can one check a wireless connection on Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <lupine_85> however, you don't need a special version of windows to "take advantage" of duo (they charge ~100 extra for smp, IIRC)
[01:16] <gholen> ardchoille: Okay, already done that, just wondering thogh...
[01:16] <gholen> thanks
[01:16] <Dev05> Hey guys, I just did a dist-upgrade and I got a new version of the xorg-core pack. Now it says thaat it couldn't find any device. nVidis GeForce 3 using propietary driver and XGL. what's going on?
[01:16] <ardchoille> :)
[01:16] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:17] <gholen> anyone else had the problem with a totale destryd X when having i upgrade (the latest one)
[01:17] <Dev05> lupine_85, that was impressive ;)
[01:18] <lupine_85> xorg
[01:18] <lupine_85> hmm
[01:18] <weirdo> i upgraded this package and now my os wont boot
[01:18] <sMoKiNsTiEn> can anyone help me
[01:18] <lupine_85> (never done this before ;) )
[01:18] <weirdo> something to do with xorg
[01:18] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:18] <weirdo> i get the no screen error
[01:18] <lupine_85> aha!
[01:18] <Dev05> Yeah, it saya in there.
[01:18] <lupine_85> won't work for them all, but helps a bit
[01:18] <Dev05> says*
[01:19] <HellDragon> hi
[01:19] <lupine_85> someone else say it :)
[01:19] <HellDragon> im back
[01:19] <dredhammer> so how bad is it i just installed this update
[01:19] <HellDragon> and its still not working
[01:19] <looktj> what is the site to install stuff?
[01:19] <looktj> such as mplayer, multiplayer, java, etc.?
[01:19] <dredhammer> haven't restarted yet tho
[01:19] <dredhammer> i was just goinbg top
[01:19] <weirdo> are you having the same problem as me?
[01:19] <HellDragon> :(
[01:19] <dredhammer> *to
[01:19] <ardchoille> !restricted > looktj
[01:19] <sMoKiNsTiEn> can anyone help me
[01:19] <Dev05> thanks, I'll try what the link says out.
[01:19] <harleypig> so anyone can tell me how to reconfigure a kismet installation?
[01:19] <natural20> does JVM come with ubuntu?
[01:19] <Marco2391> dredhammer, you only have to restart for kernel updates
[01:19] <lupine_85> apt-get remove --purge kismet
[01:19] <lupine_85> apt-get install kismet
[01:20] <lakin> Hey all, at my office today I was trying to configure a Matrox G200 and a Intel i810 card to do dual monitors.  We could get the I810 working fine, but all our attempts at configuring the G200 resulted in a corrupted screen ... :(
[01:20] <lupine_85> --purge kills all your config files
[01:20] <harleypig> ahh ... that's what I was missing
[01:20] <Marco2391> Kerney updates or kernel panic are the only reasons
[01:20] <harleypig> lupine_85: thanks
[01:20] <lupine_85> install puts them back
[01:20] <lupine_85> np
[01:20] <lakin> Is there any known issues for a Matrox G200?
[01:20] <linuxuser> why does the xserver-xorg-core update hose my x server?????
[01:20] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:20] <lupine_85> w00t!
[01:20] <gbauman> Wow, so it's a big X thing then
[01:20] <gbauman> whew
[01:20] <sMoKiNsTiEn> hello anyone
[01:20] <looktj> ardchoille: i mean site that tells me how to install stuff it wiki something
[01:21] <KolaNorsu> linuxuser: i just updatet it, and i blew my X
[01:21] <ardchoille> !restricted
[01:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:21] <KolaNorsu> i = it
[01:21] <dredhammer> automatix works
[01:21] <ardchoille> looktj: first link in that post
[01:21] <natural20> does JVM come with Ubuntu?
[01:21] <dredhammer> or easy buntu
[01:21] <harleypig> lupine_85: that did it, thanks.
[01:21] <dredhammer> if its restricted stuff you want to do in a snap
[01:21] <linuxuser> the xserver-xorg-core update is bullshit, id expect this kind of craph from mshaft
[01:21] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:21] <ardchoille> dredhammer: Please don't recommend automatix. It's not supported or recommended here
[01:21] <Tweak> how can I create a shortcut of a program?
[01:21] <dredhammer> really when did that happen?
[01:21] <KolaNorsu> linuxuser: do u know how i can fix it?
[01:21] <linuxuser> no i dont
[01:21] <HellDragon> im pised off
[01:22] <KolaNorsu> :(
[01:22] <HellDragon> pissed
[01:22] <sMoKiNsTiEn> can some  1 help me plaese
[01:22] <blu2> Hi All, just installed mplayer and mplayerplugin via apt-get.mplayer works but mplayerplugins doesnt.Is there a separate config for the plugin for firefox1.5?
[01:22] <dredhammer> well what about easy buntu?
[01:22] <KolaNorsu> me too with X!
[01:22] <linuxuser> what a bunch of bullshit
[01:22] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, only if you ask a question
[01:22] <lupine_85> look on the bright side - this is the first time something like this has happened to my knowledge in ubuntu
[01:22] <dowdle> Quick question... I just installed ubuntulite and X wasn't configured at all.  I'm upgrading the packages right now... but... what is the command line for configuration of X?
[01:22] <weirdo> how would i downgrade the xserver-xorg-core if i have no net?
[01:22] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:22] <ardchoille> dredhammer: It's much better to learn how to install those things yourself, then, if anything breaks, you won't be lost
[01:22] <sMoKiNsTiEn> i have been ..im trying to installl th4e ati driver on ubuntu and when i run the installer i get an error
[01:22] <linuxuser> any developers in here, get that fucking crap of the updater
[01:22] <lupine_85> you would use the CD?
[01:22] <Dev05> dowdle, dexconf
[01:23] <BHSPitLappy> would anyone recommend choosing ext3 over reiserfs, for a biiig partition for holding my documents
[01:23] <dredhammer> compile mplayer yourself
[01:23] <lupine_85> reiserfs every time
[01:23] <dowdle> DevOS: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[01:23] <sethk> linuxuser, for important system,s don't install a new o/s version until it has been out for three months
[01:23] <BHSPitLappy> k
[01:23] <ardchoille> lupine_85: We saw that link the first time you posted it
[01:23] <dredhammer> as for plugins easybuntu
[01:23] <lupine_85> it's on auto right now
[01:23] <Dev05> dowdle, np. It will just re-write xorg.conf
[01:23] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:23] <lupine_85> I Can turn it off if it's seriously annoying
[01:23] <lupine_85> yep, it's annoying
[01:23] <mcphail> BHSPitLappy: i'd be happy to use ext3 for that
[01:23] <ardchoille> lupine_85: It's seriously annoying
[01:23] <lupine_85> it's gone :)
[01:24] <sMoKiNsTiEn> im trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please
[01:24] <kaot> top
[01:24] <ardchoille> lupine_85: I don't think auto stuff like that is allowed in here anyway
[01:24] <kaot> erm.  my xterm is --> thataway, duh.  :\
[01:24] <lupine_85> k, will remember
[01:24] <lupine_85> I only did it because there's nobody around to set the topic
[01:24] <sMoKiNsTiEn> im trying to install the video driver for my ati can some 1 help me please
[01:24] <blu2> dredhammer, can I compile it without uninstalling with apt-get first?
[01:24] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, have you read the howto for ati yet?
[01:25] <ardchoille> lupine_85: /join #ubuntu-ops and talk to them :)
[01:25] <weirdo> how do i install the package from the cd?
[01:25] <sMoKiNsTiEn> its my first time using a linux base os
[01:25] <Marco2391> blu2, assumming you're using make, just make sure you remove any similar packages with apt before you do "make install"
[01:25] <sMoKiNsTiEn> i tried
[01:25] <sMoKiNsTiEn> and failed
[01:25] <dredhammer> well you could but thats not clean
[01:25] <BHSPitLappy> weirdo, in synaptic, in the repository settings, add the cdrom
[01:25] <sMoKiNsTiEn> i just need a little bit of help
[01:25] <weirdo> im in terminal
[01:25] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, you found the howto document?  I'm asking because it explains things in detail, more detail than we could do here.
[01:25] <weirdo> having the xorg-core problem
[01:25] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, if you have a specific question, ask it
[01:26] <sMoKiNsTiEn> can you link it to me
[01:26] <dredhammer> the howto for mplayer on dapper is pretty clear
[01:26] <dredhammer> check the forums
[01:26] <mRCUTEO> hello anyone knows how can i save iptables config in ubuntu>?
[01:26] <dredhammer> the howto section
[01:26] <lupine_85> iptables-save >iptables.conf
[01:26] <dowdle> ok, how do I generate an X.org config from scratch?  dexconf didn't help.
[01:26] <sethk> someone?  that howto URL for binary drivers?
[01:26] <HellDragon> Hi, i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(
[01:26] <sethk> dowdle, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:26] <sMoKiNsTiEn> where do i found this how to document
[01:26] <mRCUTEO> thanks lupine_85
[01:26] <dowdle> sethk: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[01:26] <blu2> thanks, I have and it is pretty clear,that is why I dont understand whyit isnt working....all the links seem to be in place
[01:27] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, I'm checking.  if you do a search for binarydriver and ubuntu, you'll find it.
[01:27] <blu2> I will uninstall and try to compile myself....
[01:27] <blu2> thanks.....
[01:27] <gbauman> Is this X-not-starting-after-update problem something I can fix with a config change, or do I need to wait for a new package?
[01:27] <sethk> sMoKiNsTiEn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <sMoKiNsTiEn> thank you dude
[01:28] <mRCUTEO> lupine_85: how can i restart the iptables - it doesnt show in init.d?
[01:28] <render> anybody get segmentation fault in ubuntu ppc running gtkpod?
[01:28] <HellDragon> :(
[01:28] <linuxuser> gbauman, someone was smoking too much dope up at ubuntu headquarters
[01:28] <render> I tried to compile it from source but I think the problem is in a shared library...
[01:28] <lupine_85> iptables is in the kernel - it runs all the time, IIRC
[01:28] <lupine_85> if it has no rules, then it doesn't do anything
[01:29] <lupine_85> (iptables is just a kernel interface)
[01:29] <sethk> lupine_85, well, yes and no.  if there are no instructions registered, it does nothing.  so, technically, it is running, but actually ...
[01:29] <K^Holtz> a new version of azureus is out.. will that show up on my autoupdates?
[01:29] <mRCUTEO> lupine_85 : what if i reboot ... do the iptables rules got reset too?
[01:29] <looktj> ardchoille: i dont see anything to install java and lojack
[01:29] <lupine_85> yes. So run iptables-restore < iptables.conf
[01:29] <natural20> is there someplace better to get ubuntu breezy help?
[01:29] <lupine_85> (once you've generated iptables.conf, of course)
[01:29] <lupine_85> use /etc/iptables.conf
[01:29] <sethk> natural20, no, you can get help here
[01:30] <mRCUTEO> oh thanks lupine_85
[01:30] <sethk> natural20, I still have all my boxes except one on breezy
[01:30] <HellDragon> :(
[01:30] <dowdle> sethk: Thanks, that worked for me.  I installed UbuntuLite in a VMware Server virtual machine with 64MB of RAM and a 2GB disk... to simulate some low end hardware I'd like to try it on later.
[01:30] <lupine_85> and add the commands to /etc/init.d/networking
[01:30] <sethk> dowdle, sounds interesting
[01:30] <imachine> hello
[01:30] <lupine_85> (iptables-save, iptables-restore)
[01:31] <HellDragon>  i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(
[01:31] <lupine_85> there are probably GUI tools to do all this automatically - no idea what, though ;)
[01:31] <imachine> could anyone point me to a weblink or something alike where i can learn the differences between 6.06 and 6.06.1 ?
[01:31] <imachine> of Ubuntu Dapper ?
[01:31] <natural20> i try installing ANYTHING (jvm, firefox 1.5, vassal) using ubuntu walkthroughs i find on the net, but something always goes wrong.  I need someone to walk through with me, and point me in the right direction when i encounter an error.   Any takers?
[01:31] <sethk> natural20, you mean installing from ubuntu packages?
[01:31] <HellDragon> another thime:  i got a problem with apt-get , eveyrtime i try to install or remove something i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), i already tried apt-get -f install and apt-get clean and a lot of things but itstill doesnt work :(
[01:32] <natural20> sethk: i can't answer that question because i don't know what ubuntu packages are.
[01:32] <weirdo> does anyone know what folder am i supposed to cd to to find xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb?
[01:32] <sethk> natural20, how are you trying to install?
[01:32] <mRCUTEO> Is this the latest version of ubuntu: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l that has no problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel?
[01:32] <weirdo> on the disc
[01:32] <sethk> mRCUTEO, none of the versions have any problems with that, afaik
[01:33] <itsmorefun> /bin/sh: line 1: 29391 Erreur de segmentation  /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt
[01:33] <itsmorefun> what can i do?
[01:33] <lupine_85> weirdo: once you've run "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb", it'll be right in front of you
[01:33] <mRCUTEO> sethk: what versions of ubuntu got problem with local use root access for 2.6 kernel? do you know any?
[01:34] <weirdo> i dont have net
[01:34] <weirdo> on the laptop
[01:34] <lupine_85> ah
[01:34] <lupine_85> on the CD then?
[01:34] <weirdo> ya
[01:34] <lupine_85> 1 second
[01:34] <weirdo> i mounted the cd
[01:34] <mainer> mRCUTEO: firestarter is easiest gui-front-end for net-filter(part of kernel does firewalling),fast easy
[01:34] <sethk> mRCUTEO, none that I know of
[01:34] <weirdo> thanks man
[01:35] <natural20> sethk: for example, from Java's website I have downloaded JRE for linux.  I'm sure i have the right package for my computer, but following their install walkthrough I immediately get an error (such and such can't be located, i don't have it in front of me.)
[01:35] <lupine_85> you could try running slocate /media/cdrom |grep xserver-xorg-core
[01:35] <mainer> mRCUTEO: http??www.fs-scurity.com/  its in repository also,but grab the user manual/guide
[01:35] <weirdo> k
[01:35] <mRCUTEO> okay thanks sethk, thanks mainer
[01:36] <sethk> natural20, java is a bad example because the package install isn't great.  For other things, though, ubuntu uses the debian package manager.  you can run an app, synaptic, and search for and install packages
[01:36] <K^Holtz> will azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?
[01:36] <sethk> natural20, that takes care of things like dependencies, meaning it installs whatever you need that is missing
[01:36] <Linuturk> how do I get my gdesklets to load at startup?
[01:36] <sethk> natural20, it's best to install that way and revert to other methods only if using packages has a problem.
[01:37] <mRCUTEO> sethk : sorry for my wrong statment: what im trying to say: is there any exploit againts Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - i heard kernel 2.6 got affected..
[01:37] <lupine_85> on my CD it's at pool/main/x/xorg-server
[01:37] <Hexidigital> Linuturk: add them to System > Preferences > Session > Startup
[01:37] <Hexidigital> Linuturk: s/them/it... make an entry for gdesklets
[01:37] <KolaNorsu> any one has just updatet his X.org-server-core? i made it and my X wont work now =(
[01:37] <sethk> mRCUTEO, whatever applies to the 2.6 kernel applies to ubuntu, but I have not heard of a problem with the kernel used in either breezy or dapper (dapper is 6.06)
[01:37] <natural20> sethk: ok, i'll try that
[01:38] <mainer> mRCUTEO:      url s.b.  http://www.fs-security.com/
[01:38] <mRCUTEO> oh..
[01:38] <Linuturk> Hexidigital, just gdesklets
[01:38] <mRCUTEO> thanks
[01:38] <Linuturk> ?
[01:38] <lupine_85> KolaNorsu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:38] <Hexidigital> Linuturk: yes
[01:38] <Linuturk> Hexidigital, ok, thanks
[01:38] <Hexidigital> Linuturk: np
[01:39] <weirdo> i found... /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-core.list and usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core
[01:39] <lupine_85> nope, none of them
[01:39] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: do u know how to repair that
[01:40] <lupine_85>  weirdo: how about /media/cdrom/pool/main/x/xorg-server$
[01:40] <lupine_85> KolaNorsu: instructions are at the bottom of the page
[01:40] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: ok thanx, i will send some cola to u :)
[01:40] <lupine_85> erm, s/xorg-server$/xorg-server/
[01:40] <lupine_85> yum :)
[01:41] <Linuturk> ok, this is the wierdest thing I've ever seen. My homepage is set to the university of Arizona . . . but my homepage is google . . .
[01:41] <lupine_85> probably get exploded as a suspicious parcel right now, though
[01:41] <Linuturk> using firefox
[01:41] <Linuturk> if I hit the home button
[01:41] <Linuturk> it takes me to the correct home page
[01:41] <Linuturk> but, when it loads up
[01:41] <weirdo> there is no x dir
[01:41] <Linuturk> it goes to the universit of arizone . . .
[01:41] <Linuturk> arizona . . .
[01:42] <cristophine> Hi all. I'm trying to print an image across multiple pages. I remember there was a command line tool that did this but I cant seem to find it. Does anyone know what it is?
[01:42] <lupine_85> your CD must be different then... mine is the alt install
[01:42] <lupine_85> 1 second
[01:42] <void^> Linuturk: that's probably because the start link is firefox %A or similar and google autosearch ends up at the university of arizona (i'm not kidding)
[01:42] <weirdo> oh.. mine is the desktop one
[01:42] <weirdo> does that mean i have to download the alt?
[01:42] <BreakDecks> Ever since upgrading to Dapper Drake, my external hard drives are mounting to the /mnt folder with names like 'sda1' or 'sdb1', and not to the /Media folder where they have a more recognizable name.  This is especially annoying because when I reboot, they have new mount points, and my indexing gets screwed up.  How do I fix this?
[01:42] <Linuturk> void^, it does say %u
[01:42] <lupine_85> your mountpoint is /media/cdrom, right?
[01:42] <weirdo> cdrom0
[01:42] <weirdo> but ya
[01:43] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: i tried
[01:43] <lupine_85> so /media/cdrom0/pool/main/x/xorg-server doesn't exist either?
[01:43] <jn> what is the cmd to make a file executable?
[01:43] <lupine_85> chmod a+x filename
[01:43] <weirdo> dir main returns "b d e f g i l m n p s"
[01:43] <jn> ty
[01:43] <Warbo> !grub
[01:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:44] <KolaNorsu> how i can make a text file
[01:44] <mwe> BreakDecks: mine mounts to /media/usbdisk
[01:44] <void^> Linuturk: hrm, if i enter %u in the address bar i get the university of alberta :] 
[01:44] <HellDragon> YAY X doesnt work anymore
[01:44] <jn> how do i make that execuatble file accessable by name in any dir
[01:44] <rotellaro> hi all
[01:44] <weirdo> lol
[01:44] <KolaNorsu> how i can make a text file
[01:44] <KolaNorsu> :(
[01:44] <Linuturk> void^, well, that fixed it
[01:44] <Linuturk> thanks
[01:44] <HellDragon> apt-get doesnt work and X doesnt work and i get no help
[01:44] <cristophine> jn: put it in your /usr/bin directory
[01:44] <HellDragon> im pissed off now
[01:45] <cafuego> jn: Normally you'd move it to /usr/local/bin
[01:45] <mwe> or /usr/local/bin for local stuff
[01:45] <KolaNorsu> im too because i dont know howto make a textfile
[01:45] <BreakDecks> mwe: I want it to mount based on the name of the drive, not the hardware address.  One drive is named "IXION", I want it to mount as "/media/IXION", instead of "/mnt/sdd1"
[01:45] <weirdo> ya.. i have to write a letter for my mother and i cant access my laptop now =D
[01:45] <HellDragon> you all so help me
[01:45] <lupine_85> helldragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:45] <rotellaro> please someone can help me? I've updated xorg and suddendly X stopped to work
[01:45] <ardchoille> Well, with all these folks having a problem after the latest xserver update.. I won't be updating it for a few days ;)
[01:45] <lupine_85> ^ ^
[01:45] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: how i can make a text file? :(
[01:45] <Dev05> KolaNorsu, Just open your favorite text editor and start typing.
[01:45] <rotellaro> argh!
[01:46] <jn> cool ty
[01:46] <lupine_85> still working weirdo
[01:46] <KolaNorsu> Dev05: ok thx :D
[01:46] <mwe> BreakDecks: you need to fiddle with the hald rules. I'm not an expert and it takes alot of fiddling around
[01:46] <weirdo> huh? still working?
[01:46] <Zambezi> I need to make some more space free on a harddrive. Is there some "crapfiles" like logs somewhere I can delete? It very little packages installed.  820 MB is used.
[01:46] <Dev05> KolaNorsu, If you're in GNOME try gedit, in KDE, kate and in Xfce, nano.
[01:46] <looktj> i found it! http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:46] <mwe> !ubuntuguide
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <bigmarCus> whats usually the best MP3 player for ubuntu/linux besides xmms?
[01:47] <looktj> !guide
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <Dev05> lupine_85, Thank's a lot for the link. Now I'm back on Linux with X running :).
[01:47] <Herbal> i upgraded xorg packages and now my X wont load
[01:47] <Warbo> bigmarCus: There are loads. I like Amarok and Listen
[01:48] <gbauman> I got X running but now it crashes to a blank screen right after the GNOME splash screen
[01:48] <jamie> Hi guys.  Sorry for the idiotic question but I can't find an answer with w3m..  What's the command to reconfigure X?
[01:48] <Warbo> !best
[01:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:48] <gbauman> joy
[01:48] <bigmarCus> Warbo: thanks ill check them out
[01:48] <Dev05> jamie, dexconf. It will re-write xorg.conf
[01:48] <lupine_85> Herbal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:48] <Warbo> bigmarCus: Listen isn't in Ubuntu yet, it's on listengnome.free.fr
[01:48] <jamie> Dev05: thanks
[01:48] <Dev05> jamie, np.
[01:48] <mitch> gbauman, this happened to me. Do ifconfig .. is loopback up?
[01:48] <bigmarCus> Warbo: thanks
[01:48] <profoX`> bigmarCus: I like to use Amarok personally (yea also in GNOME)
[01:49] <jamie> Dev05: is it supposed to do anything?
[01:49] <lupine_85> on getting that package :)
[01:49] <profoX`> but that's just a matter of opinion
[01:49] <jamie> I keep getting "No screens found"
[01:49] <gbauman> mitch, yep
[01:49] <Dev05> jamie, follow lupine_85's link.
[01:49] <jamie> man, which one is that?  It's hard with a text based browser
[01:49] <Dev05> jamie, here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:50] <Warbo> profoX`: Amarok doesn't like my non-MP3/Ogg files. Even if I drag them into the playilst manually, it says "These aren't in your collection" well done, you didn'y add them!
[01:50] <sMoKiNsTiEn> how do i get games working on ubuntu
[01:50] <jamie> Dev05: problem is I have no clue how to pull up that link with irssi
[01:50] <Dev05> jamie, I'll type it here for you. Just a sec.
[01:50] <Warbo> !synaptic > sMoKiNsTiEn
[01:50] <lupine_85> you need lynx installing
[01:50] <sMoKiNsTiEn>  i mean windows games
[01:50] <cabuloso> how do i find out the "local-machine-name" ?
[01:50] <gbauman> jamie, alt-f2 to another terminal, log in, type 'w3m <link>'
[01:50] <Warbo> !cedega > sMoKiNsTiEn
[01:50] <erdrick> ok i just installed the latest radeon drivers but it says it's still useing mesa for opengl and rendering how do i fix that?
[01:50] <gbauman> cabuloso: cat /etc/hostname
[01:50] <mwe> sMoKiNsTiEn: most of them don't work
[01:51] <profoX`> Warbo: non-mp3/ogg ? like what? wma works fine too.. I don't think I know many other formats :) besides flac
[01:51] <mwe> sMoKiNsTiEn: if you're willing to spend a few days you might get a few to work in wine
[01:51] <cabuloso> gbauman: thanks man ! :
[01:51] <George> yay suspend is broken on my t43p :)
[01:51] <gbauman> cabuloso: No problem
[01:51] <Dev05> jamie, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core-1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[01:51] <Warbo> profoX`: xm, it, and s3m mainly
[01:51] <weirdo> i think i should add the cd to the repo list
[01:51] <weirdo> what's the line of code i should add?
[01:51] <HellDragon> :(
[01:51] <HellDragon> X is dead
[01:51] <sMoKiNsTiEn> but dosnt cedega cost money
[01:52] <gbauman> Warbo: those are supported in both xine and gstreamer with the right plugin
[01:52] <profoX`> Warbo: oh, yea, Amarok could play those before :( but the gstreamer engine seized development, and the xine engine can't playi t yet
[01:52] <mwe> HellDragon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 probably
[01:52] <profoX`> gbauman: gstreamer engine = dead
[01:52] <rdz> evolution-question: how can i add a cc-address, when writing a new mail?
[01:52] <HellDragon> mwe: what
[01:52] <profoX`> (at least in 1.4.x and higher)
[01:52] <gbauman> profoX`: You are crazy
[01:52] <HellDragon> mwe: i cant
[01:52] <HellDragon> mwe: im not on X
[01:52] <profoX`> gbauman: in 1.4.x and higher it'll be gone
[01:52] <Warbo> gbauman: I know, but I have to drag them into Amarok and it complains that my collection isn't set up properly. It's the only feature of Banshee that I like
[01:52] <Dev05> jamie, If that one doesn't work, just try this one: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-ubuntu10.2_i386.deb
[01:52] <HellDragon> mwe: and i dont know how to copy past with irssi and i  cant apt-get lynx beause apt-get is broken
[01:52] <HellDragon> :(
[01:53] <mwe> HellDragon: you upgrade X and it dies?
[01:53] <weirdo> how do i add the cd to the repo list? what do i type into sources.list?
[01:53] <profoX`> jamie: Dev05: I think this works too: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[01:53] <lupine_85>  weirdo: is it a 6.06.1 CD?
[01:53] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: What was the site, https://lauchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/571XX??
[01:53] <Warbo> weirdo: There is a tool for it. Hang on
[01:53] <Dev05> profoX`, I don't know :)
[01:53] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[01:53] <mwe> HellDragon: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb and install it with dpkg
[01:53] <KolaNorsu> ok thx =)
[01:53] <gbauman> profoX`: version 1.4.x of what?
[01:53] <HellDragon> mwe: dpkg doesnt work either
[01:53] <profoX`> gbauman: amarok
[01:53] <Warbo> weirdo: "apt-cdrom" I am not sure ho to use it though (maybe look in it's man)
[01:53] <HellDragon> mwe: everything is screwed up
[01:54] <mwe> HellDragon: huh?
[01:54] <lupine_85> dpkg -i <package-name>
[01:54] <mwe> HellDragon: sounds bad
[01:54] <weirdo> ya it's the dapper cd
[01:54] <lupine_85> apt-cdrom is for adding cdroms to the repo
[01:54] <HellDragon> ITS ALL the fault of RAGEIRCD
[01:54] <gbauman> profoX`: Oh, ok, just some KDE app. gstreamer the project is alive and quite excellent.
[01:54] <HellDragon> the dpkg and apt-get are trying to install it
[01:54] <HellDragon> and it doesnt work
[01:54] <profoX`> gbauman: yes I know that ;)
[01:54] <HellDragon> but it keep trying everytime i try to do soemthing
[01:54] <profoX`> gbauman: I was referring to the Amarok Gstreamer engine
[01:54] <HellDragon> i tried everyting
[01:54] <mwe> HellDragon: oh
[01:54] <gbauman> profoX`: I gotcha
[01:54] <profoX`> :)
[01:55] <mwe> HellDragon: I had to manually fix the APT database once
[01:55] <profoX`> I never liked the gstreamer engine anyway.. Xine engine has always worked better here :) (for amarok)
[01:55] <lupine_85>  weirdo: comment out all the net repos, leaving just the cdrom one. Then apt-get update. Thensudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[01:55] <lupine_85> see if that does the trick
[01:55] <gbauman> profoX`: Yeah, but 0.10 fisxed a lot of the big architectural issues. Gstreamer is almost as cool as the BeOS Media Kit now
[01:56] <profoX`> gbauman: I know BeOS, but I dont know their Media Kit :)
[01:56] <weirdo> erm.. how do you exit out of manpages?
[01:56] <weirdo> lol
[01:56] <Quicksilva> anyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed?
[01:56] <HellDragon> mwe: :'(
[01:56] <lupine_85> q
[01:56] <profoX`> weirdo: type Q
[01:56] <weirdo> haha.. i was trying ctr+everything
[01:56] <profoX`> lol
[01:56] <gbauman> profoX`: I hope GNOME catches up to the BeOS tracker's metadata handling some say
[01:56] <gbauman> some day
[01:56] <lupine_85> you could always copy the .deb to a cd or CF or *something* and xfer it to your laptop that way?
[01:56] <lupine_85> (from whatever computer you're at now)
[01:57] <Warbo> Gstreamer Amarok engine always screws up for me, so I use Xine. It seems like gstreamer tries to catch up to itself or something, and the song stutters
[01:57] <profoX`> gbauman: I don't know alot about BeOS (almost nothing) I know it's a closed source OS that's pretty cool and fast :) and that there is an open source project Haiku that wants to create an open source BeOS, but thats all I know :)
[01:57] <Quicksilva> anyone know of a program in linux to adjust cpu fan speed :/
[01:57] <profoX`> Warbo: yea I know, but in 1.4.x gstreamer will be gone anyway, it's unsure if it will come back or not
[01:57] <mwe> HellDragon: what I did, and only try it at own risk was. back up /var/lib/dpkg and removed the enry for the broken package. that way apt thinks it's never been installed
[01:57] <Warbo> profoX`: I wanted to try Haiku in Qemu, but you need to install BeOS first, then turn it into Haiku :(
[01:57] <profoX`> Warbo: wtf?
[01:58] <profoX`> you sure?
[01:58] <erdrick> anyone know how to get my OpenGl to use my radeon drivers and not the mesa drivers?
[01:58] <Warbo> profoX`: I know. The CD images of BeOS they offer are not iso format either
[01:58] <HellDragon> mwe: fixing X first would be a better idea :(
[01:58] <gbauman> Warbo: That's because the Haiku project is replacing the BeOS's commercial closed-source parts from inside the BeOS itself
[01:58] <mwe> HellDragon: except you need dpkg to do it
[01:58] <lupine_85> !xorg
[01:58] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:58] <Ademan> I know this could be considered stupid or futile, but I'd like to make this petition, and i'd like people to review it before I post the draft http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21350
[01:58] <Dev05> erdrick, You have to get the ATI Propietary X Server Drivers.
[01:58] <bigmarCus> Warbo: You still there?
[01:58] <HellDragon> i cant go on sites
[01:58] <profoX`> gbauman: Warbo: oh I didn't know that ._.
[01:58] <Warbo> gbauman: Exactly, like GNU replacing UNIX until Linux came along
[01:58] <HellDragon> IM IN TEXT MODE
[01:58] <jamie> exit
[01:59] <Ademan> HellDragon: awesome :-)
[01:59] <BlueEagle> helldragon: also your caps lock seems to be stuck.
[01:59] <mwe> HellDragon: and you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg
[01:59] <HellDragon> dpkg = broken
[01:59] <Ademan> you're boned
[01:59] <erdrick> Dev05: the driver install download won't do the trick?
[01:59] <Ademan> lol
[01:59] <HellDragon> apt-get = broken
[01:59] <Ademan> how is it broken?
[01:59] <mwe> HellDragon: I told you how to fix it
[01:59] <HellDragon> i get errors
[01:59] <BlueEagle> helldragon: and links2 is a good text-mode web browser
[01:59] <HellDragon> mwe: yeah
[01:59] <mwe> HellDragon: I told you how to fix it
[01:59] <HellDragon> mwe: but i want X working first
[01:59] <Ademan> what errors?
[01:59] <mwe> HellDragon: you can't
[01:59] <Ademan> you need dpkg first to get x working
[02:00] <Dev05> !tell erdrick about ati
[02:00] <profoX`> Ademan: if it was more structured I'd consider reading it :) divided into paragraphs
[02:00] <mwe> HellDragon: you need dpkg to reinstall the old xorg
[02:00] <HellDragon> mwe: yes
[02:00] <looktj> i need to install latest jdk
[02:00] <profoX`> Ademan: it would make a better petition too :)
[02:00] <KolaNorsu> lupine_85: thanks very much to you, im sure it will start now :)
[02:00] <erdrick> Dev05: that's cool how did you do that?
[02:00] <mwe> HellDragon: so how do you plan to fix X first when it depends on dpkg which is not working?
[02:00] <lupine_85> figners crossed :)
[02:00] <Warbo> erdrick: Is that radeon driver as in radeon, or as in fglrx?
[02:00] <Ademan> profoX`: I tried to keep it short, hence the single paragraph, you think i should divide it though?
[02:00] <Dev05> erdrick, the bot.
[02:00] <erdrick> Dev05: its fglrx
[02:00] <HellDragon> mwe: im trying to fix it
[02:01] <HellDragon> having someone sshing into my box would be better :(
[02:01] <profoX`> Ademan: yea
[02:01] <Warbo> erdrick: OK, I could never get that to work :)
[02:01] <mwe> HellDragon: are you listinging at all?
[02:01] <HellDragon> mwe: im lost in irssi
[02:01] <weirdo> when i try commenting out the http://archive.ubuntu..... it says not found
[02:01] <gbauman> Hey does anyone know the kernel 'vga=xxx' parameter to get native console resolution in 1440x900?
[02:01] <HellDragon> mwe: im trying to backup the dpkgs
[02:01] <Dev05> erdrick, Go into the ATI page and download the drivers.
[02:01] <mwe> HellDragon: you can't fix Xorg without fixing dpkg first
[02:01] <HellDragon> i know
[02:01] <HellDragon> thats not what im doing
[02:01] <jamie> Dev05: Thanks man
[02:01] <weirdo> but when i uncomment, it found the package to downgrade but then says failure resolving the address
[02:01] <Dev05> erdrick, Or use Synaptic.
[02:01] <profoX`> Ademan: use Enters and divide into 2 or 3 paragraphs.. it will read easier on the eyes
[02:01] <mwe> HellDragon: just cp the file to antoher one
[02:01] <Dev05> jamie, You're welcome.
[02:01] <FantasticFoo> i upgraded my version of xserver-xorg to a newer version from an unofficial .deb package - it apparently isn't compatible with my system somehow. how can i "downgrade" to the dapper version?
[02:02] <HellDragon> 10gb of files
[02:02] <jamie> and whomever helped me downgrade X
[02:02] <mwe> HellDragon: huh?
[02:02] <jamie> got it working
[02:02] <HellDragon> ill do it if its the only solution
[02:02] <HellDragon> brb
[02:02] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: it was an official package. :(
[02:02] <beermunk> is anyone available to answer a pptp question?
[02:02] <gbauman> beermunk: I can try
[02:02] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: does this work? sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:02] <jwise> jamie: did the latest X update wreck your Xserver?
[02:02] <jamie> can someone repost the bug, so I can look at it not in w3m? :D
[02:02] <jamie> jwise: yes
[02:02] <mwe> HellDragon: the status file is 10GB ?! I doubt it
[02:02] <Warbo> I noticed that xserver-xorg is upgradable. Are these Xorg errors being discussed here to do with that, or something about edgy?
[02:02] <beermunk> thanks gbauman -
[02:02] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: what was an official package?
[02:02] <jwise> jamie: cool.. that's why i'm here too
[02:02] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: hmm, i'll try that...
[02:02] <iceman> anyone using a optiplex dell ?
[02:03] <beermunk> basically i'm trying to convert my settings from my windows vpn to pptp-config gui in kubuntu
[02:03] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: xserver-xorg-core in dapper-updates is broken..
[02:03] <Warbo> OK, I won't upgrade it then :)
[02:03] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: crud!
[02:03] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: don't ask me how the bug slipped in ._.
[02:03] <jamie> jwise: I downgraded X like profoX`is saying
[02:03] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: so i just follow that command, and bang?
[02:03] <jwise> that's what i'm trying now
[02:03] <HellDragon> mwe: im looking into the things i copied now
[02:03] <sureshot_> hey i have an toshiba laptop with a 17" tft monitor why will ubuntu not work it say no monitor defined
[02:03] <jamie> jwise: worked like a charm for me
[02:03] <mwe> HellDragon: what did you cp?
[02:03] <lupine_85> weirdo: it can't be on your CD then. Have you got any way of transferring the file to your laptop from the pc you're on now?
[02:03] <jwise> i think i hosed it more by "apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core", though :(
[02:03] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: if it downgrades the package, then it should be fine
[02:03] <beermunk> for some reason after I connect I can ping outside sites but not inside sites
[02:03] <HellDragon> mwe: the whole /var/lib/dpkg
[02:03] <lupine_85> how did you get the update on in the first place
[02:04] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: sweet!
[02:04] <mwe> HellDragon: you shouldn't
[02:04] <weirdo> is lan plug and play?
[02:04] <profoX`> jwise: lol I think so too, reinstall it lik ethis: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:04] <iceman> Anyone Using a Dell Optiplex P4 3 GHZ, ht ... ? system ?
[02:04] <mwe> HellDragon: just /var/lib/dpkg/status like I told you
[02:04] <HellDragon> :(
[02:04] <BlueEagle> helldragon: If you're unable to fix your X by yourself I can send you the fix in /msgs if you'd like.
[02:04] <HellDragon> mwe: ok
[02:04] <HellDragon> brb
[02:04] <beermunk> it's like pptp-config isn't letting me use the domain name correctly
[02:04] <jamie> jwise: that's what i did ^^  what profoX` is saying
[02:04] <lupine_85> jwise: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop, or whatever) to get your packagtes back... then do the fix mentioned above
[02:04] <jwise> jamie: my X is up and going
[02:04] <FantasticFoo> brb, i'm gonna reboot
[02:04] <jwise> lupine: awesome, thanks!
[02:04] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: after the command, try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start     and X should start (if you use gdm as login manager that is)
[02:04] <profoX`> okay nevermind ._.
[02:04] <HellDragon> ok im nano'ing the Status i copied
[02:05] <mwe> HellDragon: then search for the broken package in the status file and remove the 10 lines or so for it
[02:05] <Warbo> weirdo: If you have DHCP then yes. If not then you need to know IP addresses
[02:05] <HellDragon> mwe: ok
[02:05] <Ademan> is dell considered an OEM?
[02:05] <jamie> ok guys.. since this is Day 1 in Ubuntu for me, I'm off to read some more
[02:05] <weirdo> then i shall try that.. thanks and brb
[02:05] <iceman> Yes dell is OEM
[02:05] <HellDragon> mwe: is there a way to search for text in nano ?
[02:05] <mwe> HellDragon: but be sure you have the backup handy in case you srew up
[02:05] <HellDragon> yeah
[02:05] <erdrick> Dev05: do i download the installer or x.org 6.8 they don't have an x.org 7.0.0 listed
[02:05] <weirdo> ctr + w?
[02:06] <sureshot_> does anyone know why ubuntu will not start x on my toshiba laptop it detects the ati card but has problem with the monitor
[02:06] <mwe> HellDragon: ctrl-W I think
[02:06] <HellDragon> wee thanks
[02:06] <Dev05> erdrick, Yeah, take the latest version you find... Should work :)
[02:06] <profoX`> jamie: problems like these rarely happen.. this is the first big problem I encountered in ubuntu in my half year experience with ubuntu.. I'm a little bit pissed though.. that an obvious bug like this slipped in!
[02:06] <mwe> HellDragon: when you find it make sure you remove all of the lines in question
[02:06] <iceman> sureshot_ mot likely trying to display to the Monitor port on the Laptop
[02:06] <HellDragon> yep
[02:06] <HellDragon> theres like 20lines
[02:07] <mwe> HellDragon: it will be about 10 after each other. or 20 yes
[02:07] <Dev05> How do you get IRC in text mode???
[02:07] <mwe> Dev05: irssi
[02:07] <jwise> Dev05: sudo apt-get install ircii
[02:07] <jwise> :)
[02:07] <ardchoille> Dev05: irssi
[02:07] <hanasaki> i pluged in a usb disk .. normally the system is in gnome and picks it up / automounts it.   this box is now remote w/o a gui... so how do i tell where the usb disk is in /dev ?
[02:07] <sureshot_> iceman i dont understand i am a newbie may i ask you to explain
[02:07] <Teatherwind> Anyone able to assist me with the install of flash on firefox?
[02:07] <SNow> you had a Deal with quagga ?
[02:07] <Dev05> mwe, jwise, ardchoille, I wish I knew that before. Thanks!
[02:07] <iceman> sureshot_ is the a place on the laptop to plug a monitor in ?
[02:07] <ardchoille> :)
[02:07] <jamie> profoX`: I'm a long time debian user,  I figured it was something simple but without X searching through text is hard.  LOL
[02:08] <SNow> how could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?
[02:08] <mwe> Dev05: yeah. handy if you screw up X ;)
[02:08] <sastraxi> (EE) No devices detected. no screens on my X server configuration, ubuntu 6.06
[02:08] <sureshot_> iceman yes there is..
[02:08] <lupine_85> hanasaki: usually it'll automatically make a file in /dev for you... try ls /dev *usb*
[02:08] <sastraxi> and here's the kicker --- it was working before a reboot with no change in configuration
[02:08] <mwe> sastraxi: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[02:08] <lupine_85> or it'll show up as an sdxxx driver
[02:08] <iceman> sureshot_ you have a monitor you can plug in ?
[02:08] <lupine_85> e.g. /dev/sda
[02:08] <lupine_85> if your hard drives are /dev/hd*
[02:08] <sureshot_> i can get one yes
[02:08] <dibblego> after installing 6.06 desktop on i386 how much s downloaded with apt-get update?
[02:08] <Dev05> Teatherwind, I guess you can go in Synaptic and install it. You have to first enable the channels that aren't selected by default in the GNOME Application Installer.
[02:08] <hanasaki> lupine_85, all i have is  /dev/urandom
[02:08] <deltab> SNow: in and out, or sent and received
[02:08] <profoX`> jamie: yea I used debian for a long time too
[02:09] <sastraxi> oh lord
[02:09] <HellDragon> ok i did it
[02:09] <HellDragon> im testing
[02:09] <sastraxi> thank you, mwe
[02:09] <sastraxi> I've been banging my head against the wall for an hour
[02:09] <wizard> banging head can be good :)
[02:09] <iceman> sureshot_ because the system has two displat port, on for the Screen and one for the external, look at the bio's and see if you can specity which to use
[02:09] <profoX`> jamie: with today's bug I somehow wish I stuck with it ;) (this is not true in general, I like ubuntu better as a desktop os)
[02:09] <sureshot_> iceman is it confusing the port with the lcd screen
[02:09] <Teatherwind> Thanks Dev05, I didn't see it.. but I will look again..
[02:09] <hanasaki> lupine_85, no luck
[02:10] <method|> ubuntu vastly miscalculates the freespace on my fat32 partition, anyone know what could be the cause of this?
[02:10] <sureshot_> ok gives me someware to look thanks a lot
[02:10] <Dev05> Teatherwind, Otherwise open a page that requires Flash and Firefox will guide you through.
[02:10] <lupine_85> then something is broken? My /dev has loads in
[02:10] <wizard> anyone got a cure for this xorg update?
[02:10] <lupine_85> how about /dev/bus/usb?
[02:10] <HellDragon> weird its installing the linux kernel image
[02:10] <HellDragon> and some other things
[02:10] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:10] <iceman> sureshot_ exactly, I get the same issue in a Dell with a ADD on Nvidia card. I have to install tot he onboard video, then reconfigure to the nvidia
[02:10] <HellDragon> ill let it do it
[02:10] <lupine_85> or https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[02:10] <jamie> profoX`: I will say the ubuntu install is easier LOL
[02:10] <Dev05> wizard, lupine_85 did.
[02:10] <jwise> lol... this is the biggest thing to hit ubuntu since 6.06!
[02:10] <mwe> HellDragon: what did you do?
[02:10] <profoX`> jamie: lol, debian 3.1 isn't that hard either
[02:10] <Teatherwind> Tried that.. d/l'd the package.. extracted it.. ran it in the gui.. terminal pop'd up .. and then closed..
[02:10] <sureshot_> iceman thanks again
[02:10] <sureshot_> will try
[02:11] <SNow> how could I understand a packets called in and out is it upload and download?
[02:11] <hanasaki> lupine_85, no luck its not in there iether
[02:11] <Teatherwind> if I try to do it in term then, I can't seem to locate the directory.
[02:11] <iceman> sureshot_ i'm still a newbie at linux, but can lead you a little...
[02:11] <HellDragon> mwe: removed the ~20 lines in status who were talking about rageircd
[02:11] <jamie> profoX`: no, ,not at all, but I had to do NOTHING with ubuntu..heh
[02:11] <HellDragon> mwe: and i think apt-get is working now
[02:11] <Dev05> Teatherwind, are you using GNOME?
[02:11] <lupine_85> what happens when you run MAKEDEV (while in the /dev directory)
[02:11] <Teatherwind> Yes
[02:12] <sureshot_> iceman well when you dont know ware to look you seem to be blind LOL at least now i will look there.... i am runing solaris at the moment but want ubuntu
[02:12] <lupine_85> you should be doing all this as root/sudo, btw
[02:12] <mwe> HellDragon: I mean why is it installing linux and such
[02:12] <sastraxi> mwe: that worked, thanks :D
[02:12] <profoX`> jamie: oh, yea, after install, configuration goes smoothr in ubuntu, hardware detection too :)
[02:12] <mwe> sastraxi: yw
[02:12] <jwise> reboot time... :-/
[02:12] <HellDragon> mwe: i got no idea lol
[02:12] <Dev05> Teatherwind, so then open gnome-terminal and drag'n'drop the .sh file that you downloaded fromt the Macromedia Flash Download page.
[02:12] <iceman> sureshot_ check the Bios, and try pluging in a Monitor and see if you get a display
[02:12] <HellDragon> mwe: maybe because i tried a dist-upgrade that failed
[02:13] <mwe> HellDragon: how much is it installing?
[02:13] <Zambezi> Is there systemfiles like log which I can delete? I need to free space.
[02:13] <sureshot_> ok will do i will do that now thanks
[02:13] <HellDragon> it just finished installing 40 things without errors
[02:13] <jamie> anyone use an Ipod with ubuntu?
[02:13] <HellDragon> yay it works
[02:13] <HellDragon> now reboot time
[02:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jamie about anyone
[02:13] <mwe> HellDragon: did you type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or what?
[02:13] <HellDragon> mwe: i dont know i did a lot of things
[02:13] <HellDragon> reboot time no
[02:13] <HellDragon> w
[02:13] <Teatherwind> Nm.. figured it out...  I d/l'd the wrong package.  " \'x86_64\'" isn't supported
[02:13] <weirdo_> back
[02:14] <Teatherwind> So I will need to find the correct package.  Didn't know I could drop the file in to term.
[02:14] <BlueEagle> Why is helldragon rebooting? Did he install a new kernel?
[02:14] <weirdo_> followed directions on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[02:14] <Teatherwind> Thanks for that tip Dev, that will make my life MUCH easier.
[02:14] <weirdo_> but didnt work
[02:14] <BlueEagle> jamie: Did you read the /msg from ubotu?
[02:14] <weirdo_> gave me a 302 moved temp error
[02:14] <mwe> BlueEagle: I think he did
[02:14] <Dev05> Teatherwind, Did I help??? Anyway...
[02:15] <Teatherwind> Honestly..
[02:15] <maddler> has anyone updated latest xserver-core on dapper AMD64?
[02:15] <maddler> (hello)
[02:15] <jamie> BlueEagle: ya
[02:15] <weirdo_> but if i click on it in browser of diff comp, it works
[02:15] <Teatherwind> Yes.. because I was having some issues with the basic pathing of the file.
[02:15] <TokenBad> friend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?
[02:15] <Teatherwind> I couldn't seem to find it.. or figure out what 'where' I started.
[02:15] <BlueEagle> jamie: Good. Did you have a question regarding ubuntu and ipod or were you just conducting a survey?
[02:15] <Dev05> Teatherwind, oh.
[02:15] <mwe> BlueEagle: but I don't think he realised he only had to reboot if he upgrade the kernel but he dissappeared before I had a chance to speak
[02:16] <K^Holtz> will azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/
[02:16] <jamie> BlueEagle: Well.  I'm doing more research on my own.  When I narrow my question down to something that's acceptable I'll let you know
[02:16] <BlueEagle> mwe: We'll just have to tell him about it when he gets back. :)
[02:17] <Dev05> What's the bash command to delete folders?
[02:17] <BlueEagle> mwe: may I /msg you regarding the bug? Do you know anything about it or more spesifically the scope of hardware/software it affects?
[02:17] <deltab> Dev05: rmdir
[02:17] <lupine_85> rmdir
[02:17] <lupine_85> or rm -rf
[02:17] <Dev05> wow
[02:17] <BlueEagle> !ipod
[02:17] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:17] <lupine_85> (if the dir has stuff in and you're feeling brave)
[02:17] <deltab> rm -r would be enough, usually
[02:17] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jamie about ipod
[02:17] <BlueEagle> jamie: hope that helps.
[02:17] <jamie> BlueEagle: It does, thank you
[02:17] <HellDragon> mwe: apt-get works dpkg works but not X
[02:17] <minerale> Hi, I have vncserer running. I used to be able to run a gnome session inside xvnc without no problem, now all the sudden I get an error saying:  gnome-session: you're already running a session manager
[02:18] <Dev05> deltab, lupine_85, Thanks! :) Bash-delete time!
[02:18] <HellDragon> ill try a dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg
[02:18] <lupine_85> Dev05: have fun :)
[02:18] <mwe> HellDragon: I think you need http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.debserver/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[02:18] <wizard> lupina cure worked
[02:18] <eternalswd> I just returned to college and need to change my time zone and time.  The time-admin is not remembering the settings I change, what can I do?
[02:18] <FantasticFoo> hmm
[02:18] <FantasticFoo> after downgrading to a working x.org version...
[02:19] <MrBallZ> Hi, i have a question, is there anyway to setup ubuntu Dapper, to automount ntfs usb drives when it detects them, just like Knoppix does ? ...
[02:19] <BlueEagle> mwe: That was a fantastically long url.
[02:19] <FantasticFoo> X works, but 1) i  have no 3d accel 2) i have no working window manager
[02:19] <mwe> BlueEagle: it was wrong
[02:19] <lupine_85> it was broken
[02:19] <FantasticFoo> can anybody help?
[02:19] <swarm> Hey - How do I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?
[02:19] <Dev05> erdrick, how's your driver finally?
[02:19] <weirdo_> how do you eject cds in terminal?
[02:19] <lupine_85> eject
[02:19] <mwe> HellDragon: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[02:19] <wizard> can i lock out that update, it wants to do it again :(
[02:19] <Warbo> weirdo_: "sudo eject /dev/cdrom-name"
[02:19] <K^Holtz> should i direct my question about azureus and ubuntu updates to another channel?
[02:19] <lupine_85> just tell it not to
[02:19] <ali1234> how do i compile ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-26-386 from source?
[02:20] <lupine_85> I think synaptic has an option to peg it at a particular version, but adept doesn't
[02:20] <erdrick> Dev05: i'm running that fakedrive stuff from the websight you had the bot show me
[02:20] <Warbo> ali1234: Install "linux-source-2.6.15" (that contains all of the patches to build -26)
[02:20] <weirdo_> damn.. i guess terminal cant read cdrw
[02:20] <ardchoille> How do I tell apt-get to update everything except the latest xserver update?
[02:20] <weirdo_> does that mean i have to burn 3mb of xorg core on to a blank cd?
[02:20] <lupine_85> ali1234: "make clean", "make menuconfig", "make", "make modules_install", "make install"
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mwe: The bug, does it only affect ATi?
[02:20] <Dev05> erdrick, I didn't see what the bot said. Hold on.
[02:20] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about ati
[02:21] <Zerojakel> hello
[02:21] <swarm> Does anyone know how I dial my internet connection upon startup, no matter who logs into the desktop?
[02:21] <ali1234> Warbo: did that. i just get a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 - which fails to compile
[02:21] <ardchoille> Well, all of the folks who install Ubuntu today will be screwed
[02:21] <Warbo> !kernel
[02:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:21] <TokenBad> friend updated from breezy to dapper and is getting error on startup about starting the GNOME settings daemon...anyone know what that means?
[02:21] <lupine_85> setup a script in /etc/rc5.d
[02:21] <HellDragon> mwe: wgetting it
[02:21] <Warbo> I can't give any more info than that page sorry
[02:21] <lupine_85> ^(swarm)^
[02:21] <ali1234> Warbo: tht only has instructions for 2.6.17... which i'm already running in the background
[02:21] <swarm> so everything is that dir is run at startup?
[02:22] <Zerojakel> i have a problem with the update xserver-xorg-core?
[02:22] <Zerojakel> is it a bug?
[02:22] <lupine_85> everything in that dir is run on entry to runlevel 5
[02:22] <lupine_85> which by default is when the GUI starts up
[02:22] <K^Holtz> will azureus update automaticall through update manager or do i have to type something specifically in ubuntu to get it to update?... sorry for repeating but it hasnt been answered yet :/ if i should direct this to another channel plz just let me know
[02:22] <swarm> there is something in there, S14ppp
[02:22] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: I don't have ati or nvidia cards and that update broke mine too
[02:22] <lupine_85> zerojakel: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[02:22] <Warbo> ali1234: wtf? I've never actually read it, but I was assuming it actually let someone compile a kernel which Ubuntu ships....
[02:22] <HellDragon> lol i cant find where wget saved the .dev
[02:22] <lupine_85> you need to unzip it, if that helps...
[02:22] <HellDragon> .deb
[02:22] <jwise> was anyone with the buggy X server running Xgl?  I still seem to be hosed
[02:22] <HellDragon> its not in my home directory
[02:23] <ali1234> Warbo: "note that this page describes how to do things for the Edgy (2.6.17) kernel and newer! Until this kernel source, we did not have any mechanisms in place that would allow people to build their own kernels easily. This was intentional."
[02:23] <deltab> K^Holtz: it's own update mechanism is probably independent of anything else
[02:23] <deltab> ^its
[02:23] <erdrick> Dev05: dangit when i get to the "fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" part is says requested package is not suported
[02:23] <ali1234> so, maybe it's not easy, but someone must know how to do it :)
[02:23] <swarm> So it seems that there is already a script there for it, but I need to find out how to enable i.
[02:23] <K^Holtz> deltab: o ok, i was unaware it was capable of that
[02:23] <lupine_85> make-kpkg is the "Debian Way"(tm), however, it's crap
[02:23] <Warbo> ali1234: Oh. I always built my custom kernels the regular way, no packaging or anything, so I didn't notice
[02:23] <Dev05> erdrcik, I guess this is the easiest way to get it running (I have an nVidia, so I'm not sure for ATI's): http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:24] <TokenBad> no one knows?
[02:24] <deltab> K^Holtz: it's been a while since I used it, but I think it has its own update
[02:24] <BlueEagle> ali1234: Are you looking for help to compile your own kernel?
[02:24] <ali1234> BlueEagle: Yes
[02:24] <Dev05> TokenBad, What's the actual error?
[02:24] <rummik> hey, i just installed flash player and there's no text appearing...i remember i had to do something with fonts, but i can't remember what. what am i supposed to do?
[02:24] <ali1234> i need to apply a tiny patch for a bug i found, to find out if it really is a bug
[02:24] <BlueEagle> ali1234: are you registered with nickserv so that you can recieve messages?
[02:24] <jrib> !fonts
[02:24] <ali1234> yep
[02:24] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:24] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:24] <erdrick> Dev05: yeah i've been to that wiki too i keep haveing the same trouble at the same spot
[02:24] <HellDragon> ok found it
[02:25] <HellDragon> dpkg -i ing it
[02:25] <TokenBad> Dev05, says that and then says some themes, sounds or backgrounds will not be loaded
[02:25] <K^Holtz> deltab: i dont see it.. do u think update manager will recognize theres a new version or no?
[02:25] <ardchoille> Well, that'll teach me to stay up-to-date, lol
[02:25] <rummik> jrib: thanks
[02:25] <deltab> K^Holtz: I guess so
[02:25] <erdrick> Dev05: when i go to run fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/drapper it keeps telling me that the requested package is not supported
[02:25] <wizard> lol
[02:25] <wizard> locked my core now'
[02:26] <HellDragon> X works !
[02:26] <HellDragon> thanks mwe
[02:26] <K^Holtz> deltab: i just dont wanna download a jar file and complicate things more than they have to be
[02:26] <HellDragon> now i just need to configure it
[02:27] <Dev05> erdrick, The way I ran nVidia's is just with a -q parameter...
[02:27] <Noah0504> Hey everyone.
[02:27] <deltab> K^Holtz: how did you install it?
[02:27] <bigmarCus_> How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?
[02:27] <Dev05> erdrick, And then it just compiled.
[02:28] <TokenBad> Dev05, this is the full error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[02:28] <weirdo> i keep getting file moved error when i try to wget the xorg core file
[02:28] <K^Holtz> deltab: sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:28] <erdrick> Dev05: so insted of Ubuntu/drapper try using a -q?
[02:28] <LinuxHelp> er, how do I check what session my user is logged in to (gnome or kde)?
[02:28] <Ademan> profoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21358   revised
[02:28] <Dev05> erdrick, I've never tried ATI's...
[02:28] <deltab> bigmarCus_: smbmount /192.168.1.102/mp3 somedir  I think
[02:29] <bigmarCus_> deltab: thx ill try it
[02:29] <deltab> K^Holtz: repeating that should update it, as I understand it
[02:29] <sizzam> LinuxHelp: try opening your home folder, should be the same name as your username
[02:29] <lupine_85> works here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[02:29] <Khellendros> wtf
[02:29] <profoX`> Ademan: k ill check
[02:29] <weirdo> works on this computer too
[02:29] <Bonez56> omgwtf
[02:29] <weirdo> but not on the laptop
[02:29] <LinuxHelp> sizzam, k..
[02:29] <K^Holtz> deltab: o, i woudlnt think thats the case.. ill give it a try later tho.. after i wait to see if it autoupdates.. tahnks for your time
[02:30] <weirdo> keep getting a 302 Moved Temporarily error
[02:30] <bigmarCus_> How would I mount a windows share if the windows share is 192.168.1.102/mp3 ?
[02:30] <sizzam> LinuxHelp: there might be a smarter way, but i dont know it
[02:30] <Ademan> I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21358
[02:30] <profoX`> Ademan: I see some spelling mistakes
[02:30] <Ademan> profoX`: i know i wrote it in gedit
[02:30] <profoX`> lol
[02:30] <weirdo> oh wait.. i think it's because im trying to connect directly to the modem
[02:30] <weirdo> and my isp isnt recognizing the mac address
[02:30] <Ademan> i'll spellcheck it after I can get the content down i guess
[02:30] <sizzam> Adam_G: F7 to check spelling in gedit
[02:31] <Dev05> TokenBad, No idea. on what's wrong. Sorry :(
[02:31] <sizzam> oops
[02:31] <sizzam> Ademan: F7 to check spelling in gedit
[02:31] <lupine_85> spoof the mac?
[02:31] <weirdo> damn i dont have an extra lan cable
[02:31] <Disastorm> hi
[02:31] <linuxd00d> can gnome run KDE software?
[02:31] <Ademan> sizzam: i didnt realize gedit spellchecked :-p
[02:31] <lupine_85> ifconfig <interface> hw ether <mac address>
[02:31] <jrib> linuxd00d: sure
[02:31] <sizzam> :-)
[02:31] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[02:31] <profoX`> you write the same thing always, is it benefits, or benifits
[02:31] <Disastorm> can someone help me my x server broke and now it says "fatal server error no screens found"
[02:31] <profoX`> I thought it was benEfits
[02:31] <weirdo> is that permanent?
[02:31] <Ademan> linuxd00d: of course, you just need the KDE libraries, which if you install a KDE program through apt-get should install by defaults
[02:31] <profoX`> but english is not my native lang
[02:32] <lupine_85> disastorm: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[02:32] <Disastorm> thanks
[02:32] <jwise> why has the buggy xserver-xorg-core not been removed from the update stack?
[02:32] <linuxd00d> jrip: i was pretty convinced it did, but i wasnt to sure if it run all KDE platform
[02:32] <profoX`> Disastorm: type in terminal: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:32] <profoX`> jwise: ( yea it annoys me too )
[02:32] <linuxd00d> Ademan: cheers :)
[02:32] <George> for some reason mplayer is complaining that xvideo isn't present when xdpyinfo says it is
[02:33] <jwise> my X is still hosed... i can run X, but Xgl is really messed up :(
[02:33] <George> and thus won't use xv as its video output thing
[02:33] <Disastorm> so that new version of the core is broken??
[02:33] <profoX`> jwise: Xgl is still a bit buggy anyway :)
[02:33] <Ademan> profoX`: haha, yeah i just spell checked it, should be better now, but you think I should try and use a thesaurus for the benefit words?
[02:33] <profoX`> Disastorm: seems like it !!
[02:33] <profoX`> Ademan: I don't care :)
[02:33] <jwise> profoX`: it's worked BEAUTIFULLY for me for the last few months
[02:33] <swarm_> Hmmm.....
[02:34] <swarm_> Anyone know of a URL with info on how to dialup on boot?
[02:34] <Ademan> profoX`: well, I want people to like it and believe in it
[02:34] <profoX`> jwise: you use the compiz or compiz-quinn ?
[02:34] <jwise> compiz
[02:34] <sethk> jwise, it's foolish to upgrade, just because there is an upgrade, when everything is working perfectly for you
[02:34] <swarm_> There is a script in rc5, but I do not know how to configure it, and am not seeing any documentation
[02:34] <profoX`> Ademan: I would sign it, I mean I don't care about the spelling (mistakes)
[02:34] <Disastorm> so is it going to come up again and ask me to upgrade it but i just shouldnt upgrade?
[02:34] <jwise> sethk: wha?
[02:35] <sethk> jwise, sorry, wrong nic
[02:35] <deltab> Ademan: does Dell have a contract with Microsoft that requires them to pay for Windows on every machine, whether included or not?
[02:35] <jwise> ah
[02:35] <lupine_85> swarm: you can just add a command for 'pon', if everything's configured properly?
[02:35] <jwise> deltab: most likely
[02:35] <dravas> I just installed Compiz and now what do I do
[02:35] <Ademan> deltab: no clue, i doubt it because they do offer red hat on their servers
[02:35] <profoX`> Ademan: However, I would make a small text and put that in bold, where you state in short what the request is for, and then in normal font the full text
[02:36] <Ademan> they probably have a committment to buy a certain amount of licenses though
[02:36] <Disastorm> thanks guys i can startx again!
[02:36] <profoX`> Ademan: and I would use empty lines between the paragraphs instead of the spaces in front of it.
[02:36] <dravas> !compiz
[02:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:36] <deltab> Ademan: are those systems cheaper if configured with the same hardware options?
[02:36] <eXistenZ> What is the best burning software in gnome
[02:36] <Ademan> deltab: the linux systems?
[02:36] <deltab> yes
[02:36] <lupine_85> gnomebaker
[02:36] <Ademan> eXistenZ: I like graveman
[02:36] <deltab> I've heard that they are more expensive
[02:36] <profoX`> eXistenZ: I would say K3B :P
[02:36] <eXistenZ> Ademan, better than nero?
[02:37] <profoX`> (yea, even in GNOME)
[02:37] <lupine_85> ..."in gnome"
[02:37] <sethk> deltab, that is sometimes true, yes
[02:37] <profoX`> k3b runs in GNOME doesn't it
[02:37] <Ademan> eXistenZ: graveman isnt pretty but it works great
[02:37] <Ademan> profoX`: yep
[02:37] <sethk> deltab, because red hat isn't free
[02:37] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp3
[02:37] <wolfmanz> anyone got any idea why after i install kubuntu and update it the xserver wont start up?
[02:37] <eXistenZ> I see
[02:37] <lupine_85> yes, but all the extra libraries aren't worth it for one package
[02:37] <Ademan> deltab: hrm, I couldn't really tell you
[02:37] <lupine_85> wolfmanz: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:37] <profoX`> eXistenZ: there is also nerolinux if you want to buy it
[02:37] <Ademan> that could be a large barrier however
[02:37] <eXistenZ> profoX`, Is it good
[02:37] <profoX`> eXistenZ: I don't use that :) I use K3B
[02:37] <lupine_85> k3b rocks ;)
[02:38] <deltab> bigmarCus_: did smbmount work?
[02:38] <Ademan> the KDE project got something right!!!
[02:38] <eXistenZ> profoX`, I see
[02:38] <lupine_85> k3b++
[02:38] <bigmarCus_> deltab: wasnt a valid command
[02:38] <profoX`> k3b is for KDE initially, but if you don't mind some extra kde libs, it will run fine in GNOME
[02:38] <lupine_85> kopete++
[02:38] <band-aid> can anyone give me a step by step to dual boot XP and linux using grub?
[02:38] <lupine_85> kmail--
[02:38] <profoX`> Ademan: please spare me your kde comments :) i like kde alot myself
[02:38] <Ademan> profoX`: sorry
[02:38] <lupine_85> band-aid: the installer should have set it up automagically?
[02:39] <band-aid> It didn't
[02:39] <weirdo> whoo finally
[02:39] <band-aid> It just partitioned the drive and installed
[02:39] <band-aid> It told me to restart
[02:39] <band-aid> and I did
[02:39] <band-aid> and it didn't work
[02:39] <Ademan> its probably because i started with GNOME, installed kubuntu on my mom's computer, and had a hell of a time re-learning everything i knew how to do in gnome
[02:39] <band-aid> booted right to XP
[02:39] <profoX`> Ademan: I once was a KDE evangelist ;) but now I realized both are cool in their own way, and they're both bloated :)
[02:39] <Ademan> FLUXBOX!!!!
[02:39] <kaot> yar!
[02:40] <weirdo> no gui is the best gui
[02:40] <profoX`> fluxbox is just a wm.. can't really compare that to kde or gnome
[02:40] <profoX`> i use fluxbox for my games though
[02:40] <profoX`> it saves on RAM :)
[02:40] <Ademan> profoX`: yeah true
[02:40] <kaot> profoX`: I've got a perl script the fires up a naked X server for playing games.
[02:40] <lupine_85> k, then see the example /boot/grub/menu.lst here: http://www.antlinux.com/lifebook/menu.lst
[02:40] <kaot> s/the/that/
[02:41] <Ademan> it was amazing with Damn small linux on my anchient computer (300 mhz) fluxbox, even running off of a live cd, TORE ASS
[02:41] <profoX`> kaot: yea well, I got a bash script for that :P
[02:41] <lupine_85> you just want to copy out the section marked "For Windows NT or 95"
[02:41] <lupine_85> and paste it (as root) into your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:41] <wizard> anyone having sound issues after that xorg deal?
[02:41] <profoX`> kaot: not that hard, right? something like X -ac :1 & DISPLAY=:1 fluxbox
[02:41] <kaot> "tore ass" means something completely different in my lexicon
[02:41] <lupine_85> assuming your windows partition is /dev/hda, you're set
[02:41] <lupine_85> otherwise edit the (hd0,1)  line accordingly
[02:42] <kaot> profoX`: well, it's also got a little menu when you fire it up, where you can pick which game you're gonna play and whatnot
[02:42] <profoX`> kaot: reason I run a wm (fluxbox) there because I like to play some games windowed, or I want to load a terminal/browser in background
[02:42] <profoX`> kaot: oh, like Xgame ?
[02:42] <lupine_85> (e.g. /dev/hdxy == (hdnum(x),y)
[02:42] <kaot> yeh that's what it is in fact
[02:42] <toddobryan> Could someone help me set up a printer?
[02:42] <profoX`> lupine_85: almost
[02:42] <toddobryan> I'm trapped in a Windows world...
[02:42] <kaot> (I didn't say I wrote it  :\  )
[02:42] <lupine_85> yeah, I was just thinking...
[02:43] <lupine_85> grub offsets the second from 0 as well
[02:43] <wizard> so no to windoze
[02:43] <profoX`> /dev/hdxy = (hdnum(x-1),y-1)
[02:43] <lupine_85> so 0,1 is actually /dev/hda2
[02:43] <lupine_85> well spotted :)
[02:43] <profoX`> yea
[02:43] <profoX`> :)
[02:43] <wolfmanz> lupine_85: after doing that command you gave me can i then update ubuntu and should i leave the xorg update checked off?
[02:43] <profoX`> kaot: oh lol ;)
[02:43] <profoX`> kaot: I never tried it.. I like to do it my own way :P
[02:43] <weirdo> radeon driver DRI is only 2d acceleration right?
[02:43] <lupine_85> wolfmanz: probably not
[02:43] <profoX`> weirdo: wrong
[02:43] <weirdo> no?
[02:43] <wizard> only one that needs windows is bill gates
[02:43] <profoX`> weirdo: radeon + dri = full 3d acceleration :)
[02:44] <Warbo> weirdo: On a lot of newer cards yes. On my card I get accelerated 3D
[02:44] <Warbo> (Radeon 9200)
[02:44] <weirdo> i have an rs300
[02:44] <lupine_85> if you do it in synaptic or adept, you can choose to preview changes then re-deselect the xorg package again
[02:44] <weirdo> 9100 igp
[02:44] <erdrick> Warbo: you have a radeon 9200??
[02:44] <weirdo> cant get fglrx to work
[02:44] <profoX`> weirdo: well I was thinking about older cards, because on a newer card you're better off with fglrx (proprietary driver)
[02:44] <Warbo> Problem is, alpha is not accelerated
[02:44] <Warbo> erdrick: yes
[02:44] <profoX`> on my 7500 it works with 3D accel with radeon+dri anyway
[02:45] <weirdo> cause im trying to get xgl/compiz to work
[02:45] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Seems a few people filed the same bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[02:45] <nanno> someone please REMOVE the xserver-xorg-core package from updates! it crashes xorg!
[02:45] <weirdo> well it works.. just laggy
[02:45] <profoX`> nanno: we know..
[02:45] <sethk> nanno, yes, we know
[02:45] <wolfmanz> lupine_85: do they plan on fixing this so we can get that updated xorg?
[02:45] <weirdo> and i get like 1386fps in gnome
[02:45] <nanno> :D
[02:45] <erdrick> Warbo: i got the driver installed but could you tell me how to get OpenGL to use the fglrx driver instead of the mesa ones
[02:45] <Warbo> Compiz is a no-no on DRI for me (alpha is used heavily, which makes it damn slow)
[02:45] <profoX`> nanno: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:45] <haasteem> hi, is it still possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy using the update manager?
[02:45] <sethk> remember my motto, don't upgrade for no reason.
[02:45] <lupine_85> I don't think any developers are awake right now
[02:45] <profoX`> weirdo: I get like 1800 with my radeon 7500
[02:45] <blocky> can someone reccommend a good video editor that could be used to join 2 avi files
[02:45] <lupine_85> there's a bug report, though, so no doubt it'll be fixed asap
[02:45] <Warbo> erdrick: I can't get fglrx to work. That is why I use DRI
[02:45] <weirdo> did you try xgl/compiz?
[02:45] <Ademan> **(I would appreciate some more eyes checking this out)** I know it may come across as futile, foolish, or perhaps idealistic, but I would like to petition dell for linux desktop support, but i'd like you all to revise my proposal first: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21359
[02:45] <lupine_85> ...before the big morning upgrade, hopefully!
[02:45] <wolfmanz> lupine_85:  cool
[02:45] <nanno> profoX`, yeah i know i fixed it but im sure a lot of people are going to have a headache with this since it will kill their X server ;)
[02:45] <haasteem> !hoary
[02:45] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[02:46] <wolfmanz> lupine_85: thanks for the info
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: yea i know.. im pissed too..
[02:46] <haasteem> !upgrade
[02:46] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[02:46] <erdrick> Warbo: will that let me play games ?
[02:46] <Warbo> weirdo: If you look on the AIGLX page on help.ubuntu.com I have left a few extra instructions if you want to follow the forum guide it links to
[02:46] <haasteem> hmm... so i guess yes
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: this should never have happened if you test the software before you release
[02:46] <nanno> profoX`, but glad to know people know about this already... although i just updated cache and its still there :(
[02:46] <Warbo> erdrick: DRI accelerates 3D, but not alpha (transparency), so it depends on the game
[02:46] <profoX`> nanno: i'm pretty pissed about this bug.. i hope theres a good explanation for it slipping in
[02:47] <nanno> profoX`, aye... im sure there is not :)
[02:47] <sethk> profoX`, somebody made a mistake.  It happens
[02:47] <erdrick> Warbo: world of warcraft and halflife 2 mostly
[02:47] <gnomefreak> what bug?
[02:47] <sethk> that's why I always wait a few days before upgrading when something is released
[02:47] <sethk> everyone should
[02:47] <nanno> gnomefreak, dont update xserver-xorg-core or you wont have X... that bug :)
[02:47] <Singkong2005> Hi, can someone help me? I installed TEA text editor and it shows as installed in Syn Package Manager but I can't find how to run it.
[02:47] <profoX`> Warbo: dont know what that means, but AIGLX runs fine (very fast! even with video playback) on my ati radeon 7500 (radeon+dri)
[02:47] <Warbo> erdrick: They are a little newer than stuff I have tried. Actually I only have one non-Free game on Ubuntu, and that doesn't work
[02:47] <gnomefreak> nanno: ah yes X in dapper
[02:47] <crimsun> that patch is direct from upstream, btw.
[02:48] <Warbo> profoX`: AIGLX runs fine for me, but not Compiz
[02:48] <gnomefreak> nanno: it will be fixed i would say by late tomorrow
[02:48] <profoX`> Warbo: no problems here
[02:48] <profoX`> Warbo: I run aiglx + compiz on my radeon 7500
[02:48] <Warbo> (I had to run AIGLX instead of Xorg for a while until I fixed Xorg)
[02:48] <Krankily> Anyone familiar with the xserver-xorg.core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 update? It seems to have hose my install?
[02:49] <lupine_85> singkong: get a list of the files that were installed by the package (one of the tabs or buttons), work out which one is the binary, and run that (with full path) in a terminal
[02:49] <profoX`> gnomefreak: direct from upstream, what does that mean ?
[02:49] <nanno> gnomefreak, too bad it can't be fixed now by just removing the update
[02:49] <weirdo> Warbo: wow.. seems like a lot of work if something goes wrong
[02:49] <profoX`> Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:49] <sethk> Krankily, yes, it's been happening to everyone
[02:49] <profoX`> Krankily: theres already a bug report
[02:49] <weirdo> Warbo: from the looks of the main page
[02:49] <nanno> profoX`, probably direct from xorg :)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> nanno: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download and install the old version
[02:49] <profoX`> nanno: oh.. well.. i'm NOT happy with it ._.
[02:49] <lupine_85> evil people that they are ;)
[02:49] <dravas> !nvidia
[02:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <nanno> gnomefreak, no no.. i meant removing it from the repos
[02:49] <gnomefreak> sethk: not everyone :) it didnt bother my dapper
[02:50] <Krankily> I'll have to install it again and just avoid the update
[02:50] <Warbo> weirdo: Basically you need to downgrade the driver modules, otherwise Xorg complains about incompatible versions. Took me a while to figure out the cause (although with the recent Xorg update you may have problems anyway :) )
[02:50] <lupine_85> quick, let's all start using "that other X server"!
[02:50] <sethk> gnomefreak, well, many people
[02:50] <Singkong2005> lupine: how do I find the full path?
[02:50] <sethk> gnomefreak, I haven't installed it, so it didn't bother me at all
[02:50] <weirdo> Warbo: i had that trouble today
[02:50] <profoX`> gnomefreak: easier is to: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 :)
[02:50] <lupine_85> it'll be in the file list
[02:50] <gnomefreak> profoX`: there are alot of ways to do it :)
[02:50] <Krankily> I'll assume one can't downgrade the update?
[02:50] <McJerry> what wireless pcmcia card works easiest and best with ubuntu on a laptop
[02:50] <profoX`> gnomefreak: yea but mine's easier :P
[02:50] <sethk> Singkong2005, if you know the file name you can search for it by name also
[02:50] <lupine_85> don't use synaptic so can't help any further
[02:51] <nanno> Krankily, it can easily be downgraded
[02:51] <profoX`> Krankily: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:51] <profoX`> Krankily: that will downgrade the package
[02:51] <Singkong2005> lupine: you mean a file list on the program's website?
[02:51] <Warbo> weirdo: I saw it in the updates, but since I use a load of external repositories I didn't want to risk installing a non-Ubuntu version of such an important package. Turns out it IS an Ubuntu package, but a broken one
[02:51] <lupine_85> no, in synaptic
[02:51] <Krankily> ah, same update, different location?
[02:51] <weirdo> Warbo: so much for keeping up to date
[02:51] <nanno> lupine_85, yes.. highlight xserver-xorg-core and go to force version
[02:52] <sethk> Singkong2005, try lupine_85's suggestion.  If you don't get anywhere with it, you can dump the entire file system in date order and look at files that changed recently; it will be one of them
[02:52] <profoX`> gnomefreak: shouldn't the maintainers that package everything for dapper check whether it works or not?
[02:52] <nanno> lupine_85, package -> force version
[02:52] <sethk> profoX`, of course, but it doesn't fail in all cases
[02:52] <Krankily> Mine does not get to grub, so I'll just do a reinstall. :)
[02:52] <lupine_85> nanno: we're after a list of files installed by a particular package in synaptic
[02:52] <gnomefreak> profoX`: they test it yes. and as it didnt affect me it might not of affected them
[02:52] <Warbo> weirdo: I have finally bought into the idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thankfully on the day where "fixing" it breaks it
[02:52] <nanno> lupine_85, aha... sorry
[02:52] <profoX`> sethk: I understand, but this bug seems to affect everyone, atleast I thought that
[02:52] <lupine_85> adept has it, and I vaguely remember it from my gnome days
[02:52] <Singkong2005> lupine: looks like just tea and tea-data. can't see a full path.
[02:53] <profoX`> gnomefreak: oh it didnt affect you..
[02:53] <gnomefreak> nope
[02:53] <lupine_85> then just try running 'tea'
[02:53] <blameless> so, i used software update to update my x11 and now all i get is No Devices Found in the xorg output.  any suggestions?
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, I don't know exactly why  it affects some, but not others
[02:53] <Warbo> Can anyone test xteddy, since it doesn't work for me on Xorg or AIGLX?
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, but it wasn't simply a case of not testing the package
[02:53] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is 192.168.1.102/mp3
[02:53] <helmet> is anybody have problems with th ipw3945 dirvers?
[02:53] <profoX`> gnomefreak: sethk: ok.. then I'm not so mad anymore.. :)
[02:53] <sethk> profoX`, not testing it enough?  obviously, but mistakes happen.
[02:53] <Singkong2005> lupine: did that, (tried to run tea in terminal) doesn't recognise it
[02:53] <nanno> blameless: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:53] <gnomefreak> profoX`: it could be as little as a typo
[02:53] <Krankily> It does install pretty quickly though
[02:53] <lupine_85> try slocate / | grep tea
[02:54] <swarm_> How do I configure ppp_on_boot?
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, lupine_85 if he just installed, slocate won't find it
[02:54] <Krankily> Also, how large a swap file would I want for 1 gig of ram?
[02:54] <Phlosten> this seems to be the place for brokened xservers
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if it is called tea, you can use:   find / -name tea
[02:54] <Warbo> Krankily: 1GB? Maybe none at all
[02:54] <lupine_85> oh yeah, it's database-driver
[02:54] <McJerry> what wifi pcmcia card works best under ubuntu?
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if it isn't called tea, and you can't find the installed file list, do a reverse time ordered ls of the common locations for programs
[02:54] <Krankily> So far I have a 1gb swap, 24g / and 24g home
[02:54] <sethk> Singkong2005, if that doesn't work, do a reverse time order dump of the entire file system
[02:55] <lupine_85> McJerry; check the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:55] <blameless> thanks, i will try that
[02:55] <Singkong2005> I installed a few days ago - found something
[02:55] <sethk> Singkong2005, the entire root tree, actually, which may be several file systems
[02:55] <profoX`> sethk: everything can't be tested on every machine, i know.. especially not with this rapidly evolving open source software.. but it's going to be a major pain for some people that are updating anyway. Why doesn't the repo get a fix so there won't be more people that get the problem?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ok time for bed night
[02:55] <sethk> Singkong2005, if you installed a few days ago, hopefully locate will find it for you
[02:55] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: dpkg -L tea   ?
[02:55] <profoX`> gnomefreak: night
[02:55] <McJerry> lupine_85 tx
[02:55] <sethk> profoX`, I suspect because it's the middle of the night where the developer is
[02:55] <Singkong2005> what'd dpkg do?
[02:55] <lupine_85> np
[02:55] <Zonoid> I need help partitioning. Should I be able to install Ubuntu without damaging Windows by installing it on the "pri/log" partition?
[02:55] <Singkong2005> (slocate is still listing files... lots of them)
[02:56] <lupine_85> atheros gets a good rep
[02:56] <sethk> Singkong2005, no, you do:   locate tea
[02:56] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: you still around?
[02:56] <sethk> Singkong2005, is it listing files with tea in the name?
[02:56] <Singkong2005> yes
[02:56] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: that lists the files in any given package (if that is in fact what you're after)
[02:56] <Warbo> Zonoid: If Windows is your only partition then shrink it "maybe defrag it first) and let the Ubuntu installer use the free space
[02:56] <Warbo> bigmarCus_: nope
[02:56] <lupine_85> xenguy: much better solution :)
[02:56] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp3
[02:56] <Xenguy> heh
[02:56] <Zonoid> Warbo: The partition says, "pri/log   3.7 GB   FREE SPACE"
[02:56] <Warbo> bigmarCus_: I am terrible with networking, sorry. And I have never used Samba
[02:57] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: ok
[02:57] <Warbo> Zonoid: "Free Space"? That should be fine
[02:57] <Zonoid> Warbo: Okay. Thanks.
[02:57] <profoX`> sethk: (I would think more people would have access to change it) but anyway.. let's just hope not too many people get affected by the problem (I'm imagining people new to linux that cant get X up anymore and will reinstall ubuntu, or install something else instead)
[02:58] <Singkong2005> thanks Xenguy - the dpkg command gave a tidy little list. Is it "/usr/share/doc/tea" that I want?
[02:58] <sethk> profoX`, true, but one should get into the habit of not installing things the moment they are released.
[02:58] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[02:58] <sethk> Singkong2005, no
[02:58] <profoX`> sethk: like I said, people new to linux :)
[02:58] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop 6.06 because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[02:58] <MetaMorfoziS> is there aprogram that can be triggered and it turns on and or off xmms
[02:59] <ardchoille> profoX`: Even if they re-install Ubuntu, the xserver-xorg-core package will be taken from the repos, and that package is currently broken. So, people who install Ubuntu today may be screwed before they can even use their box.
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[02:59] <Zonoid> I'm creating the partitions :-). I can't wait to use Ubuntu!
[02:59] <profoX`> ardchoille: which will make them switch to something else for sure (if they can't figure out how to fix it)
[02:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ardchoille: and who upgraded today, have a broken system?
[02:59] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, xmms is a program.  so I don't get the question
[02:59] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: yw - I'm not exactly sure what you want tho :-)
[02:59] <Krankily> If reinstalling and the partitions are set correctly, do I just install over them?
[03:00] <profoX`> MetaMorfoziS: not Everyone, but alot of people
[03:00] <sethk> Krankily, ye
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sethk i need an other program that controls xmms
[03:00] <ardchoille> profoX`: good point
[03:00] <sethk> Krankily, yes
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> by time
[03:00] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[03:00] <Krankily> cool, thanks
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> profoX`: it's cool.
[03:00] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, cron can do things for you on a schedule
[03:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i need a guied ver:D
[03:00] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:00] <sethk> MetaMorfoziS, the "at" shell command can start a program at a particular time
[03:00] <sethk> must be a gui front end to cron around
[03:00] <h00t> i cannot play any movie ... not in "movie player" or "vlan" or "flix" ... the movies just start and then the whole program quits.... can someone help me
[03:01] <Singkong2005> Xenguy, sethk: I want to run the "tea" program.
[03:01] <sethk> Singkong2005, yes, I know.  I've given you several suggestions on how to find the program , and the program name if necessary
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> thx...
[03:01] <eternalswd> I believe gschedule is the gtk frontend to cron
[03:01] <profoX`> h00t: try to use a different video output in the settings of vlc or Mplayer or xine (like xv, x11, gl, gl2..) does that help?
[03:01] <ardchoille> sethk: xterm makes a nice gui front-end to cron ;)
[03:01] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, What video driver are you using?
[03:01] <Singkong2005> (I'm a Linux newbie, pretty much... apart from about 5 line commands I learnt in 1989)
[03:01] <Warbo> !info gnome-schedule
[03:01] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:01] <ubotu> gnome-schedule: GNOME scheduler for automatic tasks. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 507 kB, installed size 3708 kB
[03:01] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: what output does this give: dpkg -L tea |grep bin
[03:01] <LinuxHelp> whats the binary that returns the number of lines passed to it through stdin?
[03:01] <Xenguy> ?
[03:02] <cafuego> LinuxHelp: wc
[03:02] <LinuxHelp> k
[03:02] <Dartrunner_> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and let it update, rebooted and now I am getting "Fatal server error: no screens found" when X is starting
[03:02] <sethk> ardchoille, that's true
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:02] <cafuego> LinuxHelp: Specifically, 'wc -l'
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner: bug is already filed.
[03:02] <Corporal_Dirge> Dartrunner, You need to configure xorg.conf
[03:02] <h00t> Corporal_Dirge: ... i installed nvidia driver w/ "easy ubuntu"
[03:02] <profoX`> Dartrunner_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:02] <Dartrunner_> kk thanks
[03:02] <sethk> if there is an op here, put that apt-get command, for backing out the bad patch, in the channel topic
[03:02] <lupine_85> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:03] <BrandonTheBlack> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 64-bit desktop because it can't mount my DVD drive. Can anyone help?
[03:03] <Singkong2005> Xenguy: "/usr/bin" and "/usr/bin/teaed"
[03:03] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Make sure it's selected in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: if there is a '/usr/bin/tea', then that would likely be it
[03:03] <Singkong2005> Aha! Tea is running!
[03:03] <h00t> what do you mean ... selected...
[03:04] <weirdo> what is tea?
[03:04] <BrandonTheBlack> so nobody can help me with my problem?
[03:04] <profoX`> weirdo: something to drink
[03:04] <weirdo> lol the running kind
[03:04] <profoX`> BrandonTheBlack: I don't understand
[03:04] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, make sure there's a device that's using that as it's option. "nvidia"
[03:04] <sethk> Singkong2005, teaed sounds like a daemon for tea
[03:04] <eternalswd> BrandonTheBlack, is the problem that it can't boot from the DVD drive?
[03:04] <sethk> Singkong2005, try running it
[03:04] <profoX`> BrandonTheBlack: why do you need to mount your dvd drive to install ubuntu?
[03:05] <BrandonTheBlack> eternal: it boots, loads the installer, then tells me it cant mount the drive
[03:05] <sethk> he means that the install fails at the mounting cd/dvd point
[03:05] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, in the terminal type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <sethk> BrandonTheBlack, you can try running the install with dma for the drives disabled
[03:05] <deltab> how is the drive connected?
[03:06] <BrandonTheBlack> sethk, i dont know what that means lol
[03:06] <BrandonTheBlack> deltab: its an ide drive
[03:06] <hovinen> Anyone here know about the problem with the latest update to xserver-xorg-core on Dapper?
[03:06] <sethk> BrandonTheBlack, at the boot prompt, hit f1 and read all the help
[03:06] <h00t> i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver
[03:06] <deltab> BrandonTheBlack: that :-)
[03:06] <h00t> Corporal_Dirge: i see it... apparently it's selected ... but why is it called "nv" ... isn't that generic driver
[03:06] <Singkong2005> Xenguy, sethk, lupine_85: Thanks heaps! I'm going to try and set it up on my panel now so I can launch it easily.
[03:06] <sethk> h00t, yes, nv is the open source nvidia driver
[03:06] <disastorm> hey how do i put a link to a hard drive on my desktop?
[03:06] <Xenguy> Singkong2005: yw
[03:06] <wikijeff> I'm having a problem, I think it's specific to OpenOffice, but I'm not sure, where I'll be typing along and suddenly it will randomly paste in some text which I guess I may have come across in firefox. I can't see any pattern in so far as when it happens, but it always happens when I'm typing in OpenOffice.
[03:06] <Krankily> What is the latest nvidia driver, btw?
[03:07] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Try the nVidia driver and see if that works better.
[03:07] <reiki> Problem: tried to run Synaptic. Password prompt came up. Entered sudo password. Synaptic did not start. No error displayed. Now I can't get it to display pasword prompt. Synaptic appears to be non-functional. help please
[03:07] <eternalswd> hovinen, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:07] <deltab> wikijeff: is it text you've selected?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: laptop?
[03:07] <h00t> so the 'promise' of "easy ubuntu"  isn't to install proprietary but only generic driver ???
[03:07] <wikijeff> BlueEagle, yes a laptop
[03:07] <hovinen> eternalswd, Thanks. I did so.
[03:07] <noddaba> Just installed dapper, and the fonts in the Firefox menubar are aliased (un-antialiased?).  I put gAIM's menu up against Firefox's menu, took a screenshot and zoomed in.  Sure enough Firefox fonts are not being smoothed.  anyone have any ideas?
[03:07] <wikijeff> deltab, it may have been at one point
[03:07] <sizzam> reiki: do this from a command line:   ps -ef|grep synaptic
[03:08] <erdrick> how can you tell if the person you are looking for is on or not
[03:08] <hovinen> Any word on when this update will get fixed?
[03:08] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, When installing an OSS OS it prefers all OSS software and drivers.
[03:08] <profoX`> h00t: easy ubuntu and automatix and that automatic stuff can't always be trusted
[03:08] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: You might have defined a "middle mouse button" are of your touch pad that will paste when you accidentally brush against it.
[03:08] <reiki> !find libinklevel
[03:08] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: I think it's most commonly placed in the top-right corner.
[03:08] <ubotu> Package/file libinklevel does not exist in dapper
[03:08] <wikijeff> BlueEagle, that sounds possible, how can I disable it?
[03:08] <reiki> sizzam: that command appears to indicate synaptic is not a running process
[03:09] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: ie. try clicking the top-left of your touch pad to see if that functions as a middle mouse button (ie pastes)
[03:09] <sizzam> reiki: hmm, interesting
[03:09] <h00t> can someone help me install proprietary driver
[03:09] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, I had to manually install lots of proprietary software by hand. But at least they let you make the choice to lock yourself into that system.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Hmm.. not sure where to look for that setting. I'll do some googling for you.
[03:09] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: thanks
[03:09] <Dartrunner_> profoX: thanks, worked great
[03:10] <profoX`> Dartrunner_: you're welcome
[03:10] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ seems applicable but doesn't at first glance show how it's configured.
[03:10] <jwise> argh... teaches me to use Xgl on ubuntu...
[03:10] <wolfmanz> after running easy ubuntu do you have to do anything special to activate the ati driver?
[03:11] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[03:11] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, just a second.
[03:11] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[03:12] <weirdo> i'm following this guide.. it's telling me to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:12] <weirdo> is that going to upgrade the stupid xorg core again?
[03:12] <erdrick> so is it spelled drapper or dapper?
[03:12] <lastnode> erdrick, dapper
[03:12] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Seems to be possible to comment out the event in /dev/input/event* but I'm not sure if that will work with udev
[03:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: is your homedir mounted?
[03:12] <erdrick> wow and all the problems and headachs i could have saved by figureing that out sooner
[03:13] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: You might also want to check your xorg.conf and perhaps trying to comment out the wacom devices in your server layout.
[03:13] <Corporal_Dirge> erdrick, http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=dapper
[03:13] <Corporal_Dirge> Interesting name to say the least. =)
[03:13] <h00t> why then would the damn movies not play ... they are in avi format BTW
[03:13] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: wacom devices in my server layout?
[03:14] <profoX`> h00t: no codecs maybe?
[03:14] <h00t> how do i install codex
[03:14] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: Yes. Did that sound greek to you? ;(
[03:14] <profoX`> h00t: did you install w32codecs and stuff like that?
[03:14] <BlueEagle> :)
[03:14] <profoX`> !w32codecs
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <weirdo> automatix is good for auto installing codecs
[03:14] <profoX`> the first link there
[03:14] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: yes
[03:14] <Corporal_Dirge> h00t, Because even if everything else works, the video card needs the video stream in the right format.
[03:14] <profoX`> weirdo: please do NOT advise automatix.. I've had alot of people with problems because they used automatix!
[03:15] <weirdo> o
[03:15] <profoX`> (easy ubuntu is better, but I suggest you just follow the wiki when you need something)
[03:15] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: I'm familiar with xorg.conf, but not the wacom devices in my server layout part
[03:15] <Corporal_Dirge> I favor http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper becuase you pick and choose what to install one by one.
[03:15] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: if you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf you will see three sections called "InputDevice" that has got the wacom driver. They should be stylus, eraser and one more thing that I never remember. I am not sure but synaptic might be using those.
[03:16] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: I for one have removed them from mine but they have been installed by default even on desktop systems.
[03:16] <weirdo> my laptop touchpad is fine if i remove all the wacom stuff
[03:16] <profoX`> weirdo: yea :) I don't know how it's going nowadays, but some of the most respected ubuntu developers advice you to not use automatix, so I think it's best to avoid it if possible
[03:16] <BlueEagle> wikijeff: As weirdo sais. His pad improved. It might be worth a shot.
[03:16] <profoX`> Corporal_Dirge: yea ubuntuguide used to be bad, but it's pretty good nowadays
[03:16] <weirdo> er not improved
[03:17] <weirdo> no change
[03:17] <Corporal_Dirge> weirdo, Because it's a script it doesn't handle errors properly and passes up needed steps.
[03:17] <visik7> new xserver-xorg-core conflicts with my nvidia driver xorg doesn't start anymore
[03:17] <foxjwill> how do i start apache on start-up?
[03:17] <profoX`> Corporal_Dirge: for instance.. i also heard it modifies your sources.list in a very strange way
[03:17] <wikijeff> BlueEagle: the third one is cursor, I should get rid of all three sections?
[03:17] <BlueEagle> visik7: Known bug. Workaround is to downgrade.
[03:17] <profoX`> visik7: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[03:18] <visik7> already downgraded
[03:18] <BlueEagle> how come that bug isn't in topic btw?
[03:18] <visik7> do I need to hold the package ?
[03:18] <profoX`> BlueEagle: no op i think
[03:18] <profoX`> visik7: you downgraded to ubuntu10 ? and you restarted X ?
[03:18] <reiki> !find libvye.so.4
[03:18] <Singkong2005> Hi again... can someone tell me how I change keymapping? I'd like to link my Windows start key to the Applications menu.
[03:18] <visik7> yes now it works
[03:18] <ubotu> Package/file libvye.so.4 does not exist in dapper
[03:19] <lupine_85> ooh
[03:19] <profoX`> lupine_85: why don't you just improve the support in edgy to make more drivers work out of the box :) isn't that the same?
[03:19] <weirdo> ya Singkong2005.. i was wondering the same t hing
[03:19] <ali1234> wikijeff: the touchpad is usually driven by the synaptics driver - not to be confused with the package manager tool. it looks like the only way to fix your problem is to disable tapping altogether
[03:19] <lupine_85> !find rt2570.ko
[03:19] <BlueEagle> visik7:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[03:19] <ubotu> File rt2570.ko found in linux-image-2.6.15-22-386, linux-image-2.6.15-22-686, linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server, linux-image-2.6.15-22-server-bigiron
[03:19] <reiki> anyone interpret this? d:/etc/apt$ sudo synaptic
[03:19] <reiki> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:19] <profoX`> reiki: did you get an update for libvte.so.4 and it broke synaptic ?
[03:19] <lupine_85> profox`: I've been trying :)
[03:19] <profoX`> reiki: u use xgl ?
[03:19] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell reiki about gksudo
[03:19] <reiki> profoX`, not that I know of
[03:20] <profoX`> reiki: well, here's how to fix.. (hold on)
[03:20] <reiki> BlueEagle, good point
[03:20] <BlueEagle> reiki: but that's not the cause of your error.
[03:20] <lupine_85> see http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386 for improved support for four wlan cards
[03:20] <profoX`> reiki: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper
[03:20] <lupine_85> not to mention one config utility
[03:20] <lupine_85> added a note to launchpad about it today
[03:21] <BlueEagle> reiki: The workaround I've recomended is to symlink /usr/lib/libvte.so.4 to point to /usr/lib/libvte.so.9.whateverisinstalled
[03:21] <wikijeff> Ok, I turned off tapbutton2 and tapbutton3 and set MaxTapTime to 0
[03:21] <lupine_85> but things like ndiswrapper and cards that require firmware are complete pains and impossible to do transparently using current procedures
[03:21] <profoX`> BlueEagle: yea but maybe it's better to downgrade the stuff to the default dapper stuff, he probably got the udpates from the compiz/xgl repository
[03:22] <reiki> think compiz did this?
[03:22] <agnes> hey all!
[03:22] <agnes> I'm having a relatively serious problem with my Ubuntu..
[03:22] <BlueEagle> profox`: Well xgl is fun. ;D
[03:22] <agnes> I just ran the updates, which updated xserver-xorg
[03:22] <profoX`> reiki: therere was a problem in the compiz repository (if you use usp or compiz or xgl you might have gotten these updates) they have already been removed, but you have to downgrade if you have problems (or make the link that BlueEagle mentioned) or this: sudo apt-get install libvte4/dapper libvte-common/dapper gnome-terminal/dapper gnome-terminal-data/dapper python-vte/dapper
[03:22] <bimberi> agnes: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:23] <bimberi> agnes: you're not alone
[03:23] <profoX`> agnes: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 
[03:23] <weirdo> is anyone gonna change the files at the repo?
[03:23] <profoX`> weirdo: I hope so ._.
[03:23] <reiki> profoX`, thanks... I don't really use compiz any more. It was pretty and interesting but not very usweful :) I think I'll just remove it
[03:24] <agnes> but now I get '(EE) No devices hmm.
[03:24] <BlueEagle> weirdo: They will be changed when someone gets out of bed tomorrow and read the logs. :)
[03:24] <agnes> it says it can't find that version.
[03:24] <agnes> profoX` if this is such a problem, why not take away the update?
[03:24] <bimberi> profoX`: that might happen
[03:24] <agnes> oops. forgot to add 'core'
[03:24] <weirdo> lol
[03:24] <BlueEagle> agnes: The question should be how the update got there in the first place. :)
[03:24] <weirdo> they're still sleeping
[03:24] <profoX`> agnes: I'm not responsible for it...
[03:25] <janbanan> What is the XGL on ubuntu?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell janbanan about xgl
[03:25] <weirdo> is everyone having problems with the xcore update? or just some/most ppl?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> janbanan: in short: Eye candy
[03:25] <agnes> BlueEagle well, I think it's OK for problems to happen.. but to perpetuate once reported? booo!
[03:25] <BlueEagle> weirdo: I haven't seen it in the norwegian mirror yet.
[03:25] <profoX`> BlueEagle: according to gnome-freak it was upstream, so its caused by xserver-xorg itself, not by the ubuntu patches/packagers
[03:25] <janbanan> Does it work with ATI graphics?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> agnes: The people responsible need to sleep at times too.
[03:25] <profoX`> BlueEagle: I hope they will fix it soon, a bug is already reported
[03:26] <profoX`> janbanan: most ati graphics yes.
[03:26] <janbanan> sweet
[03:26] <agnes> BlueEagle  : )
[03:26] <profoX`> janbanan: XGL is a hack on top of Xorg that uses OpenGL for drawing, in combination with a compositing wm like COmpiz you can get nifty effects, check www.youtube.com and search on "compiz" or "xgl" ;)
[03:26] <agnes> alright.. time to get back to X.. thank you.
[03:27] <jordanau> i have a legal question, i decrypted a enc_grouppwd for vpnc so i could log onto a server i am allowed to connect to, is that legal?
[03:27] <BlueEagle> profox`: Well even if ti was a bug from xorg imo it should be tested with and without the patches before being released into the repos. That's just my opinion. Then again I don't mind waiting a week to be sure to get updates that don't break my system. :)
[03:27] <BlueEagle> profox`: That's just my opinion. I know people that are complaining that the current updates of the repos are too slow.
[03:27] <profoX`> BlueEagle: I agree and thats my opinion too, but it seems like not Everyone has the problems.. gnome-freak said he didn't have the problem for example..
[03:27] <BlueEagle> jordanau: We are not lawyers. ;)
[03:28] <BlueEagle> jordanau: go to ask.slashdot.org :p
[03:28] <janbanan> Is there any reason not to use the 64-bit version of dapper when i have 64-bit processor?
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: yes
[03:28] <bruenig> I just did an apt-get update and the xcore update appeared. Should I install it?
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: 64bit version will cause problems when you want to run certain 32bit codecs or when you want to run wine to run windows apps
[03:28] <profoX`> janbanan: also no skype and flashplugin for 64bit among other things
[03:28] <Tanker_1> Noob needs help? I installed v5.10 of Ubunto and everything worked great I tried to upgrade to 6.06 LTS and now gnome wont start up, gives me a no screens found error, I've checked around on the net and found several pages but none that helped.
[03:28] <BlueEagle> janbanan: lack of popular software for 64-bit processors is still an issue.
[03:29] <swarm> janbanan, I, too have a 64 bit processor, and was running 64...
[03:29] <jordanau> okay second question once i connect to a vpnd server what is the way to access the files on that server?
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: yea we know
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10       [ the bug is already filed here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 ] 
[03:29] <swarm> I find it to be a bit smoother and faster than 32-bit, but the software support is lacking
[03:29] <swarm> I could not get my modem to work in 64, after a few weeks of trying...
[03:29] <Tanker_1> phew! i thought it was something i did. :)
[03:29] <janbanan> profox: thanks
[03:29] <Tanker_1> thank you
[03:29] <swarm> so I switched back to 32 which recognized it instantly
[03:29] <profoX`> Tanker_1: big bug that slipped in through upstream :( we have to live with it until it gets fixed
[03:29] <swarm> I would switch back to 64 if my modem would work, though. it is smoother.
[03:30] <profoX`> janbanan: you're welcome
[03:30] <justin_> Tanker_1: As long as you do not fry your harddrive you always have a second chance :P
[03:30] <profoX`> Tanker_1: the command I gave you should fix it though
[03:30] <janbanan> swarm: thanks mate
[03:30] <swarm> No problem, man
[03:30] <Tanker_1> running it now thanks.
[03:31] <Tanker_1> last linux distro I played with was like redhat 6 or 7 :(
[03:31] <zovirl> tonight I turned on my dapper machine & the wifi doesn't work.  nm-applet says "no network devices have been found"
[03:31] <justin_> Redhat.. no good :(
[03:31] <zovirl> I tried restarting the network, rebooting
[03:31] <zovirl> nothing helps
[03:31] <justin_> The only Linux I have stuck with is Ubuntu, usually im on OpenBSD.
[03:32] <weirdo> try clearing the device list?
[03:32] <weirdo> worked for me
[03:32] <Tanker_1> unfortunately I got promoted to management and dont get to do the techie stuff, but a friend (one of my techs) talked me into going to linuxconf in sf the other day, I felt SOOO lost :(
[03:32] <profoX`> Tanker_1: redhat 7.3 .. i hated that one
[03:33] <weirdo> /etc/network/interfaces
[03:33] <profoX`> justin_: openbsd as DESKTOP ? :)
[03:33] <profoX`> i'd only take that for a desktop if i was really really paranoid about security
[03:33] <zovirl> weirdo: just throw it all away?
[03:33] <paradizelost> hey all, i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password
[03:34] <paradizelost> it's the saved password that was there before
[03:34] <weirdo> well before i couldnt get networkmanager to work
[03:34] <BlueEagle> tanker_1: Does the management job keep you from having a hobby? :p
[03:34] <justin_> profoX`: I am paranoid about security :D
[03:34] <weirdo> i read that if there is stuff in the interfaces file then networkmanager wont touch the eth devices
[03:34] <gpm> hey, anyone know how to convert flash swf files to avi?
[03:34] <Tanker_1> unfortunately i got addicted to Evercrack, then Warcrack :(
[03:34] <justin_> Gpm, well I Know how to convert FLV to MPG.. but swf to avi.. not sure
[03:35] <justin_> try / ffmpeg -i filename.swf -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 output.mpg/avi
[03:36] <bruenig> So install the xserver update or don't install the xserver update, what is the recommendation there.
[03:37] <rummik> hey, what happened to msttcorefonts?
[03:37] <ardchoille> bruenig: if you install it, you'll have to revert and the update will be back in the update list
[03:37] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, it's not there?
[03:37] <justin_> bruenig: Is your Xserver working?, is there an exploit ?
[03:37] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: nope
[03:37] <bruenig> ardchoille, alright seems like a pretty clear no
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, looks like it is to me.
[03:38] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i already did 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:38] <gpm> compresseed swf format not supported :(
[03:38] <lostinc> Is there a significant change when I change kernels from the i386 default kernel to the K7 kernel that lists the Sempron processor?
[03:38] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, maybe you have repo issues.
[03:38] <paradizelost> i had squirrelmail up and running w/ local authentication - i only have 1 person who uses the mail server, that's me - and i rebooted and now, it doesn't work.  i get bad username or password
[03:38] <Tanker_1> profoX - Thank you, its back up and running.
[03:38] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: on my laptop it says i have the latest version, on my desktop i didn't have it, so it's not letting me get it
[03:39] <justin_> gpm, Yeah that is what I thought... I do not think you can change SWF to AVI.. well you possibly can but I think you are going to have to do a lot of google searching, or download something for windows - there tends to be more software on windows for that type of stuff
[03:39] <profoX`> Tanker_1: no problem. :)
[03:39] <deXtrezza> hey does anyone know if it's possible to view hdd's that are ntfs?
[03:39] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: yes
[03:39] <profoX`> deXtrezza: what do you mean with view? browse them? sure
[03:39] <deXtrezza> how do i go about doing that?
[03:39] <paradizelost> !ntfs
[03:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:39] <natural20> can anyone help me install vassal on breezy?
[03:39] <lupine_85> lostinc: not really
[03:40] <weirdo> what's ur address
[03:40] <weirdo> lol
[03:40] <lupine_85> a few optimisations that may or may not speed your computer up a bit
[03:40] <profoX`> deXtrezza: manually mount: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[03:40] <profoX`> deXtrezza: on boot up: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[03:40] <lostinc> So I guess what is the point of all the kernel versions then?
[03:40] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: read is possible, write is very iffy and not recommended
[03:40] <swarm> jesus. Everyone posts threads online about making it NOT autoconnect on startup, but no info on how to make it connect on startup... I have even read those threads to try to modify it backwards. Nothing
[03:41] <profoX`> write will come in half a year for sure if you ask me..
[03:41] <profoX`> ntfs-3g looks promising
[03:41] <deXtrezza> hmm i see, so fat32 overall is recommended
[03:41] <kitche> lostinc the point of all the kernel versions is more hardware supported or bug fixes
[03:41] <lostinc> I see.
[03:41] <paradizelost> swarm: what are you trying to have connect automatically?
[03:41] <profoX`> deXtrezza: or just plain ext3 / reiser4 / whatever instead of fat32/ntfs :)
[03:41] <zarstar> hola
[03:41] <paradizelost> wireless?
[03:41] <swarm> dialup.
[03:41] <swarm> simple ole dialup
[03:41] <bruenig> this is probably an anomaly but does anyone know why a single key on the keyboard would stop working but then after a restart would work again?
[03:41] <lostinc> I plan to start using the i686 kernel since I have read that even though I have a AMD Sempron I would be better off with the i686
[03:41] <deXtrezza> ;p i see new to me
[03:42] <paradizelost> ahh. k. don't ask me.  i haven't used that in years
[03:42] <paradizelost> and never on linux
[03:42] <paradizelost> do you have a script that connects?
[03:42] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: should i try installing it again tomorrow?
[03:42] <zarstar> I've I little problem with ubuntu network (wireless) ....can anyone help me?
[03:42] <paradizelost> if u do, just add that to a startup script
[03:42] <paradizelost> zarstar: what's the issue?
[03:42] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, I don't think that would help
[03:42] <paradizelost> !ask
[03:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <swarm> wvdial connects it
[03:42] <zarstar> :) tnx
[03:42] <natural20> seriously.  I'm a complete idiot; can't do a damn thing with linux.  I need some help installing vassal.  Please?
[03:43] <zarstar> i've just install'd UBUNTU
[03:43] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, does your Synaptic work at all?
[03:43] <paradizelost> swarm: all you type is wvdial?
[03:43] <swarm> yes.
[03:43] <Noah0504> I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a Broadcom card :)
[03:43] <zarstar> and I've setted up the network
[03:43] <eternalswd> do the commands for changing time zone explained at http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html apply to dapper?
[03:43] <vik> Just set up ubuntu-server on an old laptop, but the network has stopped working. It was working on a previous install of ubuntu. PCCard is recognised, module gets loaded, but 'ifup eth0' gives 'no such device'
[03:43] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: yeah, i'll go try that
[03:43] <cafuego> Nothing wrong with broadcom (these days)
[03:43] <justin_> Hmm, KDE is not as bad as it used to be...
[03:44] <justin_> It's doesnt feel like it takes up the whole screen anymore yay..
[03:44] <zarstar> i can do pings but te browser doesn't visualizes the web pages!!!
[03:44] <Noah0504> cafuego: Well, I had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working.  It wasn't hard though.
[03:44] <glyphrider> I just updated xorg-server on a dapper install and now X won't startup....  Anyone else seen this?
[03:44] <paradizelost> swarm: you should be able to add it to the /etc/rc.local script, or possibly someplace else if there's a better place to put startup stuff that someone can recommend
[03:44] <cafuego> Noah0504: The 4318 and 4306 work OK now with the free driver + firmware.
[03:44] <paradizelost> zarstar: sounds like a DNS issue
[03:44] <eternalswd> glyphrider, it's a known bug, if you got hit by that, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:44] <paradizelost> can you ping something like www.google.com or just an IP?
[03:44] <lostinc> I have a built in SD card reader on my IC Power laptop. When I had Windows XP Home installed it detected it auto but nothing in linux. Can someone help me or point me to a site that might help me out.
[03:44] <zarstar> I thought the same..
[03:45] <zarstar> i can ping www.google.com
[03:45] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i searched for msttcore fonts on it, and got openoffice.org as the only package listed
[03:45] <paradizelost> zarstar: then it's not dns
[03:45] <zarstar> or www.google.it
[03:45] <rummik> BHSPitLappy:*msttcorefonts
[03:45] <zarstar> so it's not DNS!
[03:45] <zarstar> isn't it?
[03:45] <paradizelost> zarstar: what's the browse3r?
[03:45] <zarstar> firefox
[03:45] <lostinc> Are the msttcorefonts legal without a copy of Windows?
[03:45] <paradizelost> can you do about:mozilla
[03:45] <Noah0504> cafuego: Yeah, I have the 4318 card.  I actually just used a script I found on the fourms.  It set up ndiswrapper... not sure what else it did.
[03:45] <lostinc> Legal as in the USA
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, do you have multiverse enabled?
[03:46] <zarstar> mozilla firefox
[03:46] <justin_> lostinc: Probably illegal, however you will not be sued over "fonts" - unless you plan to make a big profit on them
[03:46] <zovirl> weirdo: that worked, thanks!
[03:46] <weirdo> np
[03:46] <zarstar> the browser included by Ubuntu 6.06.1
[03:46] <lostinc> Very true justin_
[03:46] <bruenig> If they know the new xserver update is flawed or what not. Why do they not pull it from the repos?
[03:46] <cafuego> lostinc: The versions in the package are, MS released them. (They changed their mind later, but the original release is of course still valid :-)
[03:46] <glyphrider> Thanks; downgrading now....
[03:46] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: multiverse?
[03:46] <paradizelost> k. can you go to 64.236.29.120
[03:46] <zarstar> ehm
[03:46] <justin_> lostinc: For personal use, you can use fonts for whatever you like - I mean.. they are simply shapes
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, yeah, the multiverse and universe repos.
[03:46] <justin_> lol
[03:46] <zarstar> I'll try, wait a sec :P
[03:46] <BHSPitLappy> !multiverse
[03:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:47] <zarstar> (I'm on another pc!)
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, ^
[03:47] <Lingo> !easysource
[03:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, ^ too
[03:47] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[03:47] <zarstar> putting 64.236.29.120 in the browser?
[03:47] <paradizelost> yes
[03:47] <Lingo> !ubotu
[03:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:47] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: lol
[03:48] <eternalswd> how do I check if something is linked to a specific location?
[03:48] <vik> any ideas what would be causing 'no such device' errors when trying to bring up a network interface?
[03:48] <justin_> lostinc: Anyways do as you will with fonts - simply do not sell them as your own, or use them in big for profit projects and you will be find.
[03:48] <paradizelost> vik - the driver isn't loaded
[03:48] <lostinc> justin_ Yes I understand that. As a web developer switching over to solely linux I am sometimes hesitant to use anything microsoft since they once audited my computers as a business they thought I didn't have a license and well guess what I did. It made me really made with MS.
[03:48] <paradizelost> or the device doesn't exist
[03:48] <vik> paradizelost: the kernel module is loaded
[03:48] <paradizelost> do an ifconfig -a
[03:49] <paradizelost> does it show up there?
[03:49] <lostinc> Will be right back must reboot into the i686 kernel now.
[03:49] <justin_> lostinc: F ms.
[03:49] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: all i know is i have the settings from when i put ubuntu on this computer yesterday, maybe a couple extra games and flash player...but that's to be expected :P
[03:49] <vik> paradizelost: interesting - eth1 appears there. But no eth0
[03:49] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, look at those things.
[03:49] <justin_> If MS is going to sue someone over "fonts" that is really really sad.
[03:49] <bruenig> ms should sue linux. they do implement the double click without permission
[03:49] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: yup
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, enabling those repositories is one of the first steps you should do.
[03:50] <paradizelost> bruenig: don't give them any ideas
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> justin_, those are publicly released fonts.
[03:50] <glyphrider> My X has returned to life; thanks to all.
[03:50] <cafuego> bruenig: They can't, Apple used it before they did.
[03:50] <BHSPitLappy> sue "linux"? like, sue the kernel?
[03:50] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: oh, i see
[03:50] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: user submitted stuff ^_^
[03:50] <deXtrezza> how do i install something as root, i couldn't install my nvidia driver
[03:51] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: sudo command
[03:51] <wikijeff> What determines which website icons are displayed in the Bookmarks Toolbar for Firefox?
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> rummik, you might want to fill the checkmarks in "Add/Remove..."
[03:51] <jordanau> i have my vpnc client running and connected, how do i browse the network i am connected to
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> as well.
[03:51] <bruenig> wikijeff, it corresponds to the icon that shows up in the addressbar, not certain how that is determined though
[03:51] <chiefinnovator_> Hi!
[03:51] <BHSPitLappy> hi.
[03:51] <chiefinnovator_> anyone interested in helping me with an SSH question
[03:52] <BHSPitLappy> !anyone
[03:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:52] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: yes
[03:52] <rummik> BHSPitLappy: i did one of them already it looks like
[03:52] <weirdo> lol who implemented single click first?
[03:52] <wikijeff> bruenig: yeah I know, but although many websites have an icon in the addressbar most of them dont show the icon in the Bookmarks Toolbar
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, $ ssh localhost
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, gives me
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[03:52] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: Are you ssh'ing from one box to another on the same subnet?
[03:52] <BHSPitLappy> are you supposed to be able to ssh yourself?
[03:52] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, same box
[03:52] <bruenig> wikijeff, when you bookmark it. Sometimes it doesn't show up immediately. Usually you have to use the bookmark before the icon gets changed from the blank document thing
[03:53] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[03:53] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: You're ssh'ing in the same box? That's not what ssh is designed for
[03:53] <chiefinnovator_> Well, I tried it from my work computer earlier and got the same message
[03:53] <justin_> Has anyone else noticed that XFCE4 is slower then KDE now?
[03:53] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, ha, I know I just figured it would let me rule out firewalls, etc
[03:53] <zarstar> paradise, i can't ping 64.236.29.120
[03:53] <ali1234> TokenBad: did you check that the user's home directory exists?
[03:53] <wikijeff> bruenig: ok, thanks
[03:53] <justin_> Not at first but run XFCE4 as your df winmanager for a while, and it starts to really slow down...
[03:53] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: The remote box needs to be running an ssh server, then you need to do ssh user@host to start an ssh sesion
[03:54] <paradizelost> try pinging www.cnn.com, and put the ip address you get in the address bar
[03:54] <TokenBad> ali1234, he updated from breezy to dapper and this started
[03:54] <vik> justin_: how long you been running it for?
[03:54] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, I think it used to ask me to enter my user name
[03:54] <ali1234> TokenBad: so, is his home directory still present?
[03:54] <TokenBad> ali1234, yes...
[03:55] <ali1234> TokenBad: well then, best advice, is to rename the gnome settings folder, then gnome will recreate it
[03:55] <CrazyMO> anyone report xserver dying on an amd64 box after latest updates?
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> ardchoille, So I should try it from a different computer?
[03:55] <natural20> so... does anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?
[03:55] <profoX`> alright i'm going to bed
[03:55] <profoX`> bye ppl
[03:55] <bruenig> CrazyMO, everyone
[03:55] <ardchoille> chiefinnovator_: yes
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> Ok, I'll be back in a bit
[03:55] <zarstar> :S it seems I can't ping www.cnn.com :S
[03:55] <chiefinnovator_> thanks
[03:55] <CrazyMO> how do I downgrade it?
[03:56] <ali1234> TokenBad: if that makes it work, then you can start to copy back the settings from the old folder. if it still desn't work, then you have more serious problems
[03:56] <ardchoille> !ssh
[03:56] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:56] <paradizelost> zarstar: try it w/ google.com
[03:56] <vik> any ideas why my PCCard ethernet comes up as eth1, despite there being no eth0?
[03:56] <ardchoille> !ssh > chiefinnovator_
[03:56] <ali1234> vik: sure there's no eth0? ifconfig -a
[03:56] <zarstar> in the browser?
[03:56] <vik> ali1234: no eth0
[03:57] <paradizelost> zarstar: yah, ping the site, put the ip into the browser
[03:57] <Genfoo> how can I undo the latest xserver update?
[03:57] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[03:57] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[03:57] <_tcc> Does Dapper ship with madwifi-old or madwifi-ng?
[03:57] <zarstar> i can ping www.google.it
[03:57] <paradizelost> zarstar: k. put that ip into your browser
[03:57] <zarstar> and www.google.com
[03:57] <Terlmann> 700 people! *freaks out again*
[03:58] <Genfoo> thanks bimberi
[03:58] <CrazyMO> ty
[03:58] <zarstar> "firefox browser web"
[03:58] <bimberi> Genfoo: np :)
[03:58] <deXtrezza> what is system utility 'ld'
[03:58] <zarstar> no problem with that
[03:59] <paradizelost> zarstar: hmm.
[03:59] <paradizelost> that's odd
[03:59] <zarstar> the browser shows correctly
[03:59] <zarstar> the google page
[03:59] <Geoffrey2> I just love program developers who don't believe it's necesarry to tell anyone else how to use their program...especially when they're charging you for it
[03:59] <natural20> anyone know how to install VASSAL on breezy?
[03:59] <ranunculoid> Is there a repository I can get the latest libxine builds for ubuntu?
[03:59] <zarstar> but I can't ping www.cnn.com :S
[03:59] <paradizelost> zarstar: but does it resolve to an IP?
[04:00] <zarstar> nada
[04:00] <paradizelost> hmm
[04:00] <bkudria> i have configured my laptop to work with my external lcd using nvidia's twinview...is there a way to switch from yusing both screens to useing just the laptop one?  currently, i have another metamode, but when i switch to it, it pans across a larger virtual screen... any ideas?
[04:00] <zarstar> no response
[04:00] <paradizelost> this is a linux box riht?
[04:00] <zarstar> ubuntu
[04:00] <zarstar> 6.06.1 jjust installed
[04:00] <paradizelost> well, i dunno
[04:00] <ranunculoid> zarstar: no response from cnn.com for me either. They mustn't accept Pings
[04:01] <zarstar> what the hell? :S
[04:01] <ranunculoid> Try pinging google.com
[04:01] <zarstar> mmm
[04:01] <ranunculoid> Always works for me
[04:01] <paradizelost> ranunculoid: i've had him through all that
[04:01] <zarstar> not a matter, it works
[04:01] <vik> zarstar: I can't ping cnn.com. Some common sites block ping probes
[04:01] <paradizelost> ranunculoid: it doesn't even resolve to an ip for cnn.com
[04:01] <zarstar> okok
[04:01] <Terlmann> 6.06 stinks compared to 5.12(without ANY updates)
[04:02] <vik> Terlmann: Amen to that
[04:02] <ranunculoid> Does anybody know where I can get xine 1.1.2 for ubuntu?
[04:02] <justin_> Terlmann: Why?, because it does not include GCC by default?
[04:02] <zarstar> it's so strange :S
[04:02] <zarstar> what could I do?
[04:02] <ranunculoid> I need it to play FLAC files
[04:02] <jordanau> how do i view a vpn after i have connected to it
[04:02] <justin_> 5.12 was not good, except for having GCC by default
[04:03] <paradizelost> jordanau: a vpn is a network connection
[04:03] <zarstar> ever seen something like that?
[04:03] <Madpilot> Terlmann, what's 5.12? There was an Ubuntu 5.10...
[04:03] <paradizelost> it's not a file or a program
[04:03] <Corporal_Dirge> bkudria, As far as I know, you need to restart X to change to using just 1 monitor.
[04:03] <ubuntu> what is X server and how do i exit it so i can install my nvidia driver?
[04:03] <justin_> Ubuntu, you do not need to exit X..
[04:03] <paradizelost> deXtrezza: the X server is your graphics
[04:03] <deXtrezza> well the terminal says i need to
[04:03] <paradizelost> justin_: to install the NVIDIA drivers, you do
[04:03] <FirstStrike> ctrl alt tab
[04:03] <zarstar> what I could friends?
[04:03] <deXtrezza> hmm
[04:03] <shawnr_> ubuntulog, just install driver.. then press 'ctrl+alt+backspace'
[04:03] <justin_> Ubuntu, simply point xorg.conf to your new driver, and press -ctrl-alt-backspace, to restart it
[04:03] <FirstStrike> that will kill x
[04:04] <justin_> paradizelost: Really?
[04:04] <FirstStrike> er
[04:04] <FirstStrike> backspace
[04:04] <ranunculoid> ubuntu: restart your computer and select recovery mode from the list of options in GRUB
[04:04] <justin_> paradizelost: Wow that bites
[04:04] <jordanau> after connected to a server remotely with vpnc, how do i view the data on the server?
[04:04] <bkudria> Corporal_Dirge: no special work-arounds? bummer...
[04:04] <paradizelost> justin_: you need it to install the driver
[04:04] <Terlmann> in 5.12 via ac'97 busted afted a ubuntu update , and 6.06 doesnt install right the first 2 times, doesnt yet have the libs to do a proper media experience... l
[04:04] <justin_> Well then praise Radeon
[04:04] <zarstar> could I reinstall smthing? :S
[04:04] <Sid> Hi guys.
[04:04] <paradizelost> jordanau: depends on how the data is there, is it on a fileserver, sql server, terminal server, what?
[04:05] <Sid> Anyone here get "Nvidia Tv-out" working in Totem options?
[04:05] <vik> I been having major ac97 probs with recent kernels
[04:05] <jordanau> paradizelost, i signed in through a cisco vpd client
[04:05] <swarm> So if I remotely start a torrent in Lynx via a SSH program.... and I close the SSH program
[04:05] <chiefinnovator_> Ok everyone I'm back
[04:05] <zarstar> hola chief
[04:05] <weirdo> it's funny how my laptop lists every device as from ati
[04:05] <jordanau> paradizelost, except i used vpnc
[04:06] <swarm> and I re-login to SSH.. how do I re-open the lynx on the screen?
[04:06] <weirdo> modem, sound card, etc
[04:06] <zarstar> i'm going mad
[04:06] <swarm> to monitor it
[04:06] <ali1234> swarm: run it in screen
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> I tried ssh from a different computer same intranet deal
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> same problem
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:06] <paradizelost> jordanau: that's just the way you access the network, that says nothing about how the data is accessed
[04:06] <Corporal_Dirge> bkudria, NVidia may have somthing special, I've been working with xorg for a few months trying to get my ancient laptop ati to do dual monitors.
[04:06] <chiefinnovator_> Is there a log file somewhere I should check?
[04:06] <swarm> ali1234, I am using SSH.... I cannot load a screen via putty
[04:06] <TokenBad> ali1234, what is the gnome settings folder named?
[04:06] <ali1234> swarm: yes you can, it's command line
[04:07] <ali1234> swarm: screen <the command>
[04:07] <jordanau> paradizelost, okay maybe this helps, for windows computers they go start > run > \\cadcfiles
[04:07] <swarm> What do you mean?
[04:07] <swarm> Screen lynx www.bleh.com ?
[04:07] <paradizelost> jordanau: ok, so that's a file server
[04:07] <ali1234> swarm: yeah pretty much. without the capital letter
[04:07] <paradizelost> go places -> network servers
[04:07] <chiefinnovator_> maybe I'll try fsk
[04:07] <swarm> right
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> command not found :-(
[04:08] <swarm> now how do I get back into it?
[04:08] <xnull192> http://pastebin.ca/143478 (any ideea) ?
[04:08] <swarm> when I close it
[04:08] <swarm> when I close putty
[04:08] <vik> swarm: run screen. To detach the screen, just close the putty window (or ctrl-A then d)
[04:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Does Ubuntu have anything capable of using WPA2?
[04:08] <swarm> ah
[04:08] <swarm> k
[04:08] <vik> swarm: screen -r reattaches
[04:08] <ali1234> swarm: it will load up like normal... if you type "ctrl-a d" you get back to the initial shell. then when you log in again, type "screen -r"
[04:08] <paradizelost> jordanau: go places -> network servers        and try to to browse to it
[04:08] <zarstar> how is it possible? I ping www.google.com
[04:08] <paradizelost> !screen
[04:08] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:08] <zarstar> but in the browser it doesnt work!!!
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[04:08] <chiefinnovator_> how do I do it then?
[04:08] <vik> screen rocks
[04:08] <swarm> oh, nice :)
[04:08] <swarm> very nice
[04:09] <swarm> indeed, screen rocks
[04:09] <paradizelost> swarm: is there a reason you are using putty instead of an xterm?
[04:09] <oscuro> guys, my printer is just nuts.
[04:09] <zarstar> but www.google.it works :S
[04:09] <kjm> oscuro : valium?
[04:09] <oscuro> it's printing weird characters :(
[04:09] <paradizelost> oscuro: that's a bad driver
[04:09] <swarm> paradizelost, I just said putty for ease of explanation. I am in reality using xterm :P
[04:09] <oscuro> what's a ppd file??
[04:09] <kjm> oscuro : speaking in tonges is it?
[04:09] <coreyt> Has anyone gotten lmsensors working with a nforce 430 chipset?
[04:09] <TokenBad> ali1234, what folder do I rename?
[04:09] <paradizelost> swarm: that makes a difference
[04:09] <chiefinnovator_> too late, I have file system da .. . connection lost
[04:09] <paradizelost> :P
[04:09] <oscuro> I have a hp deskjet 610c
[04:09] <zarstar> qlke italiano?
[04:09] <jaytee> damn! screwed up my xwindows!
[04:10] <jaytee> running on a latitude d620
[04:10] <oscuro> and the system recognizes the machine.
[04:10] <swarm> now, if someone else wants to view that screen, can they view it at the same time?
[04:10] <oscuro> but...
[04:10] <paradizelost> swarm: as the same user, they can type screen -x
[04:10] <oscuro> it prints weird stuff..
[04:10] <swarm> nice :)
[04:10] <paradizelost> otherwise you need to set screen up a certain way for multi-user mode
[04:10] <crouchingMonkey> how do i check if all of my drivers are up to date ?
[04:10] <kjm> oscuro : Speaking in tonges and acting bipolar is the sign of a problem.  The first thing todo is to get the printer to admit it has a problem.
[04:10] <unix_infidel> can someone here paste bin their vimrc and gvimrc please?
[04:10] <paradizelost> oscuro: that's the #1 sign that it's got the wrong driver loaded
[04:10] <kjm> oscuro : second thing to do is reinstall the drivers for the CORRECT model printer.
[04:10] <swarm> this should work just fine :)
[04:11] <jaytee> I had been using the nvidia drivers... then updated xorg stuff
[04:11] <oscuro> ...ok I'll reinstall again.
[04:11] <PurpleTails> DOes Ubuntu mess up dial-up connections?
[04:11] <vik> unix_infidel: what do you wanna do?
[04:11] <swarm> sure is slow though :P
[04:11] <jaytee> hoisted by my own petard!
[04:11] <oscuro> but it was ok :(
[04:11] <unix_infidel> vik: test out a theory.
[04:11] <ugarit> how does one get mp3 files to play on ubuntu? I don't mean application because none of them play mp3's
[04:11] <ugarit> version 6.06.1
[04:11] <kjm> oscuro : mental diseases often attack in late age.
[04:11] <swarm> ugarit, , 64-bit or 32-bit?
[04:11] <paradizelost> oscuro: turn it off for a while, and turn it on, holding the cancel button
[04:11] <zarstar> it's incredible, I can reasearch with www.google.it but the links don't work!
[04:11] <paradizelost> oscuro: it is a VERY old printer
[04:11] <jaytee> sure... mp3s paly fine
[04:11] <kjm> !media > ugarit
[04:11] <vik> unix_infidel: a mathematical, computing, or social theory? (my money is on social)
[04:11] <ali1234> TokenBad: anything that's .gnome .gnome2 and anything that links to it
[04:11] <shawnr_> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <bruenig> !mp3 > ugarit
[04:11] <ugarit> swarm 32bit
[04:12] <unix_infidel> vik: just cat /etc/vim/* and pastebin.
[04:12] <kjm> !media
[04:12] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:12] <unix_infidel> vik: of the above, id say computing.
[04:12] <TokenBad> so all the gnome folders?
[04:12] <kjm> !codecs > ugarit
[04:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: i just thought of something... if you reinstalled the breezy over the old install, maybe the permissions on the homedir are incorrect
[04:12] <swarm> ugarit, you will need codecs, check out www.ubuntuforums under the howto tips & tricks section, get automatrix or easy ubuntu
[04:12] <ugarit> swarm thanks
[04:12] <swarm> np
[04:12] <jaytee> what's the default inittab level y'all have set in /etc/inittab?
[04:12] <ali1234> TokenBad: so make sure his user has rw permission on those folders first
[04:12] <vik> unix_infidel: ain't got vim set up on this computer; my normal workstation is out of action atm
[04:12] <jaytee> 2?
[04:12] <ugarit> what an impressive version of linux, wow!
[04:13] <TokenBad> ali1234, its not that he reinstalled breezy..he updated from breezy to dapper
[04:13] <unix_infidel> anyone else willing to do a simple pastebin: just cat /etc/vim/* and put the output into a pastebin please.
[04:13] <unix_infidel> !pastebin
[04:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:13] <Co2> Hello, is there a way to start the file browser with root access like with sudo on console?
[04:13] <paradizelost> TokenBad: did you run a gui program w/ sudo and not gksudo?
[04:13] <bruenig> co2, gksudo nautilus
[04:13] <ugarit> has anyone tried xgl?
[04:13] <swarm> Is there a better command-line torrent client than lynx?
[04:13] <paradizelost> ugarit: yes, it's very nice
[04:14] <swarm> ugarit, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:14] <netsui> ugarit: here here. Very very nice
[04:14] <jaytee> could someone look in /etc/inittab and tell me the default init level?
[04:14] <swarm> I could not get xgl to work with my ATI x300
[04:14] <paradizelost> swarm: i think azureus has a plugin for CLI access
[04:14] <natural20> so why does ubuntu have a GUI if you can't move stuff to folders using it
[04:14] <jordanau> paradizelost, it doesn't show up in that window
[04:14] <swarm> paradizelost, however to install that, I would need to be at the graphical part. :(
[04:14] <TokenBad> all he did was the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then rebooted
[04:14] <Madpilot> natural20, huh?
[04:15] <Artimus> Is there a way to blacklist a PCMCIA module?  My friend has a card that uses axnet_cs.  However, it loads pcnet_cs and then messes the card up.  I tried adding pcnet_cs to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to no avail
[04:15] <larson9999> jaytee: 2
[04:15] <paradizelost> swarm: yes, sadly
[04:15] <Co2> Thanks bruenig
[04:15] <dasos> is there a way to set a lightweight desktop manager and restart X into it?
[04:15] <bruenig> natural20, you can if you want. But generally they try to make it a bit more difficult than drag and drop in order to help compensate for user error. natrual20, do gksudo nautilus and you can use the gui to move stuff to folders
[04:15] <vik> swarm: does lynx do torrents now?
[04:15] <paradizelost> swarm: ubuntu center has a torrent part
[04:15] <paradizelost> it's web-accessed
[04:15] <paradizelost> can be done remotely
[04:15] <jaytee> thanks... that's what I thought
[04:15] <swarm> vik, evidently :P
[04:15] <swarm> seems to be doing it for me
[04:15] <larson9999> vik: i wondered that too.   it's been a while since i've used lynx though
[04:15] <paradizelost> jordanau: what didn't come up?
[04:15] <zarstar> tnx to everyone
[04:16] <zarstar> here is 4.15 o'clock
[04:16] <vik> swarm: I've just been using the vanilla bittorrent package.
[04:16] <larson9999> jaytee: the reason run levels are different for different distros is beyond me.  i should read up on that.
[04:16] <vik> swarm: provides curses-based and headless clients
[04:16] <Warbo> zarstar: Wow you're up late!
[04:16] <vik> swarm: I've heard good things about bittornado too
[04:16] <paradizelost> Warbo: or early
[04:16] <Warbo> zarstar: It's only 3:15 here :)
[04:17] <ranunculoid> Same here Warbo
[04:17] <zarstar> :S i will not sleep :(
[04:17] <zarstar> fucking wireless!
[04:17] <ejay69> hello
[04:17] <ali1234> vik: vanilla bt saturates my upload. bittornado allows to cap it. apart from that it's almost identical
[04:18] <vik> ali1234: vanilla bt can limit uploads
[04:18] <ejay69> can i ask some help in here about ubuntu?
[04:18] <Warbo> My wifi router died :( (and as soon as Ubuntu stopped crashing when accessing Wifi)
[04:18] <Warbo> ejay69: That's why we're here
[04:18] <bruenig> utorrent through wine dominates both vanilla bt and bittornado
[04:18] <BlueEagle> jaakkos: read up on runlevels here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[04:18] <vik> bruenig: except when you need a non-gui version
[04:18] <ejay69> thanks warbo
[04:18] <ali1234> oh come on, i'm not installing wine just to download a file :)
[04:18] <Madpilot> ali1234, Gnome's stock bittorrent has upload throttling, either by # of connections or by connection speed...
[04:19] <bruenig> vik, ah yes
[04:19] <swarm> I am going to try torrentcraft
[04:19] <swarm> i mean
[04:19] <_sojourner> how do I get dapper ro redetect my hardware ? i changed my monitor and need to update my config
[04:19] <swarm> nixtorrent
[04:19] <bruenig> bik, I didn't realize that is what you were getting at. Coming in and out of the channel.
[04:19] <bruenig> vik*
[04:19] <ali1234> i havn't used a commad line torrent app for a while, i just use the gnome "whatever happens when you double click the torrent" now :)
[04:19] <ejay69> I am newbie and would like to ask some questions on setting up an ubuntu server that will handle DNS and e-mail
[04:19] <vik> _sojourner: for that try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:19] <bruenig> !ask
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <ejay69> lol
[04:19] <Winbox1> I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom'  Can anyone help me?
[04:20] <Sid> Has anyone here ever gotten Totem's "nVidia Tv-out" working?
[04:20] <BlueEagle> well that's an understatement right there. "...chkconfig tool, which keeps its configuration settings in a mildly elaborate arrangement under /etc/rc.d/."
[04:20] <ejay69> is there a postfix guru here?
[04:20] <denver> is anyone aware of a xen package for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Winbox1> I tried this fix  fix is: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10, when my X went down, but now im getting No input driver matching 'kdb' and No input driver matching 'wacom' **
[04:20] <bruenig> !repeat
[04:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:20] <denver> or would i be best installing that by hand
[04:21] <pfalcone> did something happen to the xorg update today?
[04:21] <wnoise> hey guys.  anyone have an idea why an update to the latest binaries in Dapper results in nvidia drivers ("nvidia", that is) no longer recongise my GeForce 6600?
[04:21] <bruenig> pfalcone, yep
[04:21] <BlueEagle> wnoise: Known bug
[04:21] <pfalcone> looks like i ain't alone :)
[04:21] <bruenig> !xorgbug
[04:21] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[04:21] <BlueEagle> wnoise: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[04:21] <genfoo> I hooked up my laptop to my samsung lcd tv and I can't play movies on the TV
[04:21] <bruenig> !patience > bruenig
[04:21] <BlueEagle> bruenig: ahh, goodie.
[04:21] <wnoise> BlueEagle> cheers!
[04:21] <genfoo> the place where the image should be simply is black
[04:22] <genfoo> I guess framebuffer doesn't like my TV :P
[04:22] <verbose> genfoo: lower the refresh rate
[04:22] <verbose> to 60Hz
[04:22] <genfoo> it should be 60
[04:22] <kjm> !patience
[04:22] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:22] <BlueEagle> genfoo: Are you sure your gfx driver allows for overlay?
[04:22] <kjm> heh, I need that bot in my office.
[04:22] <verbose> genfoo: can you see other stuff on the tv
[04:23] <genfoo> yea
[04:23] <genfoo> *yes
[04:23] <verbose> but when you start to play the movie it stops?
[04:23] <natural20> i'm a complete linux/ubuntu/programming neophite - is there anyone who can help me install java and/or VASSAL on breezy?
[04:23] <genfoo> everything is just right but I cannot play movies
[04:23] <genfoo> I've tried numerous programs
[04:23] <genfoo> I got the codecs
[04:23] <genfoo> I got sound too
[04:23] <swarm> my movies play perfectly =D
[04:23] <ali1234> genfoo: try a different output driver? what program are you using?
[04:23] <BlueEagle> genfoo: Are you sure you've got the right video channel tuned then?
[04:23] <genfoo> :(
[04:23] <zarstar> guys
[04:23] <genfoo> I can see what I am typing right now on my TV
[04:24] <zarstar> i've the key
[04:24] <genfoo> everything is OK but the movie area itself
[04:24] <swarm> vik, any tips on how to download using torrent faster?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell natural20 about java
[04:24] <zarstar> i've been searching for a new dns, I tried
[04:24] <_xepher> um... why is xepher here
[04:24] <_xepher> and why do we have the same info
[04:24] <ali1234> genfoo: for example, in mplayer... mplayer -vo x11 - will use software playback
[04:24] <BlueEagle> natural20: I hope the /msg from ubotu can help.
[04:24] <zarstar> 212.216.112.112.... and it works!
[04:24] <zarstar> now I can go to sleep!
[04:24] <vik> swarm: huh?
[04:24] <Sid> natural20: hold on
[04:24] <Warbo> _xepher: Did you disconnect suddenly?
[04:24] <natural20> blueeagle: do i have to type !java?
[04:25] <genfoo> alil234 thanks but I also have another minor problemo ---- mplayer has no installation candidate.... what's up what that
[04:25] <_xepher> warbo: must be it
[04:25] <ubuntu> hi guys
[04:25] <ubuntu> whats up?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> natural20: ubotu sould have sendt you that message.
[04:25] <swarm> vik, got any ideas on how to make torrent download faster? :)
[04:25] <Sid> ah
[04:25] <BlueEagle> !java
[04:25] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:25] <genfoo> use swarming
[04:25] <genfoo> :P
[04:25] <Sid> n/m
[04:25] <bruenig> swarm, more seeds
[04:25] <swarm> bleh :P
[04:25] <ubuntu> swarm:  faster connection, look for seeds :)
[04:25] <swarm> yeah, i got that taken care of
[04:25] <swarm> 10mbps
[04:25] <ali1234> genfoo: no idea... you can change output driver with vlc also... dunno the command line for it though
[04:25] <ubuntu> nice :D
[04:25] <Warbo> _xepher: use "/msg nickserv recover name password" and "/msg nickserv release nam password" (I forget which order though)
[04:25] <swarm> 300 seeds, but it's only going 59k/sec
[04:25] <ubuntu> how much fast more u want :O
[04:25] <genfoo> ok I got vlc thanks
[04:25] <ubuntu> damn it dude i'm on 10kvps
[04:25] <ubuntu> :P
[04:26] <vik> swarm: heh - never been a problem for me. Stuck on 512kbps :(
[04:26] <ubuntu> btw hi swarm  :)
[04:26] <_xepher> Warbo: there we go, thx
[04:26] <genfoo> aah fubar I'm going to compile mplayer from source >:|
[04:26] <naa> foobar!
[04:27] <weirdo> anybody tried installing compiz-vanilla?
[04:27] <swarm> hi ubuntu :)
[04:27] <Warbo> fubar=feed up beyond apparent repair
[04:27] <ubuntu> wierdo not me sir :(
[04:27] <Warbo> (feed up should be effed)
[04:27] <ali1234> genfoo: probably you need to add some repository to get mplayer installed... also i have a dim memry that the package is not called "mplayer" but "mplayer-somethingorother" so ry searching it in synaptic, if you havn't
[04:27] <weirdo> got broken packages.. grrr how to fix?
[04:27] <noodle> when is xorg going to be fixed :(
[04:27] <naa> foobar=music player for windows
[04:27] <ubuntu> i just tried installing gentoo
[04:27] <Xnix> what package do i reconfigure to have it reconfigure Xorg for me?
[04:27] <ubuntu> dang that OS i 1 pain in the (_|_)
[04:28] <weirdo> i tried using fix function in synaptics.. but nothing
[04:28] <swarm> Xnix, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:28] <naa> heh ubuntu
[04:28] <naa> more like
[04:28] <Xnix> swarm thanks :)
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 I know I also can't do that thing youre thinking of I know what you mean
 i just tried typing up gentoo
[04:28] <swarm> np
[04:28] <bruenig> !no > bruenig
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html
[04:28] <genfoo> its not working either
[04:28] <ubuntu> it took my partitions away, all data bye bye
[04:28] <ubuntu> :((
[04:28] <vik> oh well eth1 it is
[04:28] <DrBanzai> Can anybody help me troubleshoot my serial ports, please?
[04:28] <compguy1011> i have an imac and use osx for my normal stuff, and have a dual boot of windows for gaming, ive been into linux before but never stayed with it, how is it thies days?
[04:28] <genfoo> alil234 its the GPG keys I think
[04:28] <ali1234> vik: you can rename it with ifrename, if you really have to...
[04:29] <ubuntu> compguy1011: go for it
[04:29] <wnoise> DrBanzai> I can give it a try;  what's the issue?
[04:29] <bruenig> compguy1011, great as always
[04:29] <vik> DrBanzai you'll need to be more specific
[04:29] <ali1234> or did i dream that?
[04:29] <ubuntu> new OS r more friendly and kool
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: no real issue running as eth1.
[04:29] <genfoo> uhh
[04:29] <bruenig> bit more user friendly if that's the kind of thing you go for
[04:29] <genfoo> mkay
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: just curious why
[04:29] <ali1234> vik: module alias perhaps?
[04:29] <xxpor2> omg why wont gaim stop flashing
[04:29] <vik> ali1234: when it was running normally before I re-installed
[04:30] <ali1234> vik: look in /etc at all the files relating to modules, modprobe etc
[04:30] <ubuntu> xxpor2:  cause u have enabled it in options ;)
[04:30] <vik> ali1234: and now 2 of the 3 NICs I've tried no longer work, when they did before.
[04:30] <DrBanzai> Well, wnoise and vik, I'm trying to connect to my homebrew MP3 player.  It does not need a null modem adaptor.  It works fine under hyperterminal.  I can't get it to do anything under minicom or gtkterm.  It's a regular serial terminal connection...
[04:30] <Pf123b> Guys, need help with wireless networking:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1406953...I have to go now, pelase post in there, if you have any ideas.
[04:30] <ubuntu> where is uboto :)
[04:31] <vik> ali1234: the things is I never touched any module settings before, and it just worked. now it doesn't just work
[04:31] <ubuntu> ubotu: hi :)
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <bruenig> !ubotu
[04:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:31] <ubuntu> haha
[04:31] <ubuntu> man he is a funny helping bots
[04:31] <ali1234> vik: maybe they need firmware or something? i don't know much about pcmcia...
[04:31] <compguy1011> ubuntu, so, where will my advantages and disadvantages be in using ubuntu over os x
[04:31] <cmatheso1> i have a laptop, but whenever i try to run memtest86 or ubuntu (or windows), it crashes a little way in... the computer just restarts.  any idea what could be happening (it doesn't seem to be related to cpu temp.)
[04:31] <bruenig> compguy1011, the doc menu gives you cancer
[04:31] <bruenig> dock*
[04:32] <compguy1011> ??
[04:32] <compguy1011> how so? lol
[04:32] <ubuntu> compguy1011: well it is secure.   gr9 tools and lots of them , lot of man /help out there
[04:32] <bruenig> is that what it is called, I believe so
[04:32] <ubuntu> :)
[04:32] <compguy1011> ya, dock
[04:32] <compguy1011> its not that bad, lol
[04:32] <vik> ali1234: just don't get why it worked then (on a 5.10 system) but not now on 6.06. But I can't really be bothered with it now.
[04:32] <ali1234> compguy1011: with ubuntu you will never never miss the menu by a few pixels, loose focus of the curent app, and spend 10 minutes trying to figure out where the "file" menu went
[04:33] <ubuntu> i got a ?
[04:33] <ubuntu> any1 also tried other different managers for ubuntu
[04:33] <swarm> 52 kb/sec - weak.
[04:33] <ubuntu> like i have xfce4
[04:33] <vik> DrBanzai: I'm assuming you have the baud rate, bits, parity, etc set correctly?
[04:33] <compguy1011> ubuntu, so whats the latest version of ubuntu now?
[04:33] <DrBanzai> vik, Yes, I do
[04:33] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, 6.06
[04:33] <ubuntu> compguy1011: Ver 6.06 TLS i think :)
[04:34] <bruenig> compguy1011, you should look at some screenshots of dreamlinux. Looks just like OSX, http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html
[04:34] <natural20> sid: you got something for me?
[04:34] <compguy1011> what is the code name for it
[04:34] <ubuntu> dapper
[04:34] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, Dapper Drake
[04:34] <swarm> anyone here use xgl/compix with ati x300?
[04:34] <compguy1011> ah, not beta anymore
[04:34] <swarm> compiz
[04:34] <ubuntu> no beta :)
[04:34] <vik> Isn't it 6.06.1?
[04:34] <compguy1011> i liked that screen flip deal
[04:34] <ubuntu> full fledged os :)
[04:34] <Sid> natural20: I was going to, but it looks like someone else beat me to it. That is, if you have no more questions; otherwise I'm happy to help.
[04:35] <bruenig> 6.06.1 has all the updates. so you want have to download 190+ MB of updates
[04:35] <shawnr_> Is there a way to use wget to query HTML code from a url from inside a bash script?
[04:35] <vik> DrBanzai - does the serial port work under linux with any other serial devices?
[04:35] <ubuntu> shawnr_: yes sir
[04:35] <shawnr_> yay ;p
[04:35] <shawnr_> how ?
[04:35] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget | grep ... etc
[04:35] <shawnr_> htm
[04:35] <shawnr_> hrm*
[04:36] <DrBanzai> vik, Well, it did work with a modem
[04:36] <shawnr_> can a string var in bash hold that much data?
[04:36] <ubuntu> it should
[04:36] <ubuntu> worth a hot ;)
[04:36] <ubuntu> shot*
[04:36] <ali1234> shawnr_: string var? pipe it...
[04:36] <Anubuntu> useful people, can anyone here help me with installing halflife 2 episode 1 in cedega (I am using Ubuntu)
[04:36] <vik> DrBanzai, so if you plug the modem in, open minicom on the port, and type 'AT' does it respond 'OK' ?
[04:37] <shawnr_> I want to get the etire page in a string and then parse it for youtube links
[04:37] <shawnr_> ;p
[04:37] <DrBanzai> vik, Lemme try
[04:37] <ubuntu> it can be done , use pipes
[04:37] <_azrael__> Anubuntu: Even if you're running ubuntu, the people who sold you cedega are probably going to know more, just as a warning.
[04:38] <mely> mplayer
[04:38] <Anubuntu> _azrael__, nevermind I found the cedega irc channel
[04:38] <ubuntu> haha
[04:38] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget -O - http://whatever/ | grep 'pattern that matches the links'
[04:38] <compguy1011> DrBanzai, if i install ubuntu, i should get the x86 version right? anyone here install ubuntu on an intel mac?
[04:38] <Sid> Anubuntu: assuming you have the latest engine patch, Cedega should have pre-defined settings for Half-Life 2 (and its ilk)
[04:38] <shawnr_> hrm k
[04:38] <oem> hello all
[04:38] <shawnr_> thanks
[04:38] <oem> ?
[04:39] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, Well, yeah, if you have an x86 CPU...I'm thinking there are tricks you need to do to get it on the intel mac though
[04:39] <ubuntu> well later guys ,bbl
[04:39] <ubuntu> tc all and god bless :)
[04:39] <oem> How can I change my screen resulution in Gnome? right now it is set at 1024X768 where I wnat it to be atleast 1280X768
[04:39] <compguy1011> any rooms that deal with that that u know of?
[04:40] <bruenig> god bless, hmm offensive
[04:40] <ubuntu> offensive?
[04:40] <ubuntu> y is that/
[04:40] <bruenig> indeed
[04:40] <ali1234> oem: system->preferences->screen resolution
[04:40] <wizard> anyone has that xorg-server problem?
[04:40] <DrBanzai> vik, No, nothing, and the lights on the modem don't blink either
[04:40] <bruenig> it is pretty obvious, no need to fill the room up with offtopic stuff though
[04:40] <DrBanzai> compguy1011, try #mac
[04:40] <ubuntu> bruenig:  huh ?
[04:41] <ubuntu> whatever dude :p
[04:41] <Dev05> wizard, I thought you had already solved it... Didn't you?
[04:41] <natural20> i can't upgrade from breezy (NVIDIA driver problem with dapper), anyone know how i can install firefox 1.5?  the stuff i've found online doesn't help - i don't know how to implement it.
[04:41] <bruenig> darwin bless bye
[04:41] <ejay69> how can i allow dial up user access their mail on my server?
[04:41] <vik> DrBanzai : Hmmm... you got a stock kernel or rolled your own?
[04:41] <DrBanzai> vik, Well, it's the 686 kernel
[04:41] <wizard> yes  i did, but was curious if anyone had side effects
[04:41] <adammichaelroach> greetings, I just did an update and there was one update: the xserver-xorg-core, after installation i restarted and now my x server is dead telling me there are no screens found
[04:41] <shawnr_> ali1234, wget -O - http://www.google.com/index.html | grep http://www.google.com/intl/    -   doesn't work
[04:41] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix
[04:41] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[04:41] <bruenig> do that
[04:41] <ejay69> how can i allow dial-up users access (receive/send) emails on my ubuntu server?
[04:41] <Dev05> natural20, As far as I know, that version of Firefox won't run on Breezy.
[04:41] <vik> DrBanzai: check the config to see if serial support is enabled/modularised and the module is loaded
[04:41] <DrBanzai> vik, No, I'm sorry, it's the k7 kernel...I have too many computers...
[04:42] <oem> I went there, but there is now where to change that. All I have there is the listing of the chosen one by the system which is: 800 X 600, 1024 X 768. I cannot change it from there.
[04:42] <vik> DrBanzai: I hear ya...
[04:42] <wizard> getting mltiple esd's and sluggish performance
[04:42] <DrBanzai> vik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules
[04:42] <Dev05> oem, If you know what you're doing, I guess you can change your resolutions directly from xorg.conf...
[04:43] <ejay69> wow... can i really get help here?
[04:43] <ali1234> shawnr_: cos that string isn't contained on the page...
[04:43] <kitche> ejay69: do you mean direct dial or no
[04:43] <ejay69> anyone to talk to about ubuntu server here?
[04:43] <vik> less /boot/config-KERNELVERSION and look for SERIAL
[04:43] <bruenig> !patience > ejay69
[04:43] <shawnr_> ali1234, its the begining of a link on the page
[04:43] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-server
[04:43] <xepher> ejay69: /join #ubuntu-server
[04:44] <kitche> ejay69: hello guess you won't anwser me then I won't anwser you
[04:44] <oem> Devof: what commant should I type to get to xorg.config. I'm new to linux
[04:44] <ejay69> yeah dial up via modems
[04:44] <ejay69> can i message you kitchie?
[04:44] <ali1234> shawnr_: sure it's not a relative link? in which cse the whole thing wont be in the html
[04:44] <bruenig> oem, if you are new to linux directly editing xorg.conf is probably not a good idea
[04:44] <kitche> ejay69: you would set up ppp up
[04:44] <bruenig> oem, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would likely be a better option for you
[04:45] <ejay69> ppp server?
[04:45] <Dev05> oem, I got late here, so, tell me exactly what you need. As bruenig said, if your new and you're not really sure of what you'll be doing, well...
[04:45] <natural20> Dev05: i've found some webpages that describe a process, for installing FF1.5 on breezy, but I'm too ignorant of unix/linux to use the info.
[04:45] <ali1234> shawnr_: i just checked, and it is. try grep 'intl'
[04:45] <ejay69> can i msg you kitchie?
[04:45] <kitche> ejay69 sure
[04:45] <bruenig> natural20, why no update to dapper?
[04:45] <Dev05> natural20, Which pages have you found?
[04:46] <bruenig> natural20, you should be able to just download whatever they have on the firefox website. Extract it to /opt and run it from there. I believe firefox distributes frozen binaries. Not sure though. Been a long time since I haven't gotten firefox from apt-get
[04:46] <VE> hellow i'm having problems getting 5.1 sound working in dapper
[04:46] <bruenig> not frozen binaries. precompiles binaries
[04:47] <bruenig> precompiled*
[04:47] <tyler_d> what program will open .eml attachments, evolution unexpectedly closes when I try it ???
[04:47] <adammichaelroach> bruenig, thanks for the help
[04:47] <VE> my sound card is turtle beach montego
[04:47] <Artimus> I've got my soundcard modules loaded, but the /dev device nodes aren't created.  Is there a command I can run to have them automatically created (like they should be)?
[04:47] <oem> When I use KDE I can go to screen resulution and change it to 1280 X 768 but in GNOME you do not have that option except the one that display there
[04:48] <oem> I want to change the screen resolution from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 768
[04:48] <ejay69> i am planning to set up a mail server for our network
 my problem is that the boss wants to dialup to another ISP and then access her mailboxes via eudora on my server
 would that be possible?
[04:48] <ejay69> opps
[04:48] <oem> You know what let me install Kubuntu then I will do it from there
[04:48] <ejay69> sorry folks
[04:48] <Dev05> oem, So it works perfectly on KDE?
[04:49] <bruenig> oem, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Accept defaults until you get to screen resolution part. Arrow down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it, then finish out selecting defaults. After that it should be an option in the screen resolution dialog from system>preferences>screen resolution in theory
[04:49] <shawnr_> ali1234, ok i got it...
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Hello!
[04:50] <AWOSDev> I'm new to Ubuntu, but not to Linux.
[04:50] <niall> what pro do i need to browse the content of my mobile for ubuntu
[04:50] <bruenig> AWOSDev, what do you need help with
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Wireless
[04:50] <AWOSDev> I haven't done Wireless LANs with Linux
[04:50] <shawnr_> ali1234, now.. one more thing.. is it possible to get the ouptut into a string variable if i use this inside a bash script?
[04:51] <bruenig> !wireless
[04:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:51] <tyler_d> anyone know how to open and view a .eml attachment
[04:51] <tyler_d> ??
[04:51] <ali1234> shawnr_: yes, like this: VARFOO = `wget...`
[04:51] <shawnr_> hrm... k thanks!
[04:51] <niall> anyone know what programs/drivers i need for my mobile phont which connects via usb cable to comp for ubuntu
[04:52] <niall> *phone
[04:52] <rikai> niall, be patient.
[04:52] <ali1234> shawnr_: but you should be able to do it without variables... probably using sed
[04:52] <AWOSDev> bruenig, thank you.
[04:52] <rikai> niall, what mobile do you have?
[04:52] <Wind> can i play CS with ubuntu
[04:52] <ali1234> niall: what kind of phone?
[04:52] <niall> samsung
[04:52] <Wind> normal cs
[04:52] <rikai> niall, model?
[04:52] <bruenig> tyler_d, try downloading it to your machine and then opening it with an email client like evolution or thunderbird
[04:53] <shawnr_> ali1234, what im going for is getting that grep output, stripping it down to just the links, then access the links one at a time... i guess putting them into an array first
 1 sec,
[04:53] <bruenig> as in right click on it and hit open with thunderbird or whatever client you use
 sgh-e330
[04:53] <ali1234> shawnr_: you can pass the whole list of links back into wget without much parsing... don't need to do it 1 at a time
[04:53] <ardchoille> Is there something like Coppermine photo gallery in the repos?
[04:54] <kitche> tyler_d it could be that you need a unarchiver
[04:54] <VE> Hello, i'm having problems getting my turtle beach motego to output 5.1 sounds. I CAN get 4 of the channels and the sub to work, but i cant get the center channel to give out sound. Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong and/or could anyone provide me some help
[04:54] <AWOSDev> I read the wireless documentation online and it still isn't working.
[04:54] <oem> Thanks guys
[04:54] <leboff> is it possible to add debian repositories to ubuntu apt?
[04:54] <shawnr_> ali1234, the problem is that its giving me some html code along with it.. not just a clean list of links
[04:54] <_tcc> AWOSDev, join the club =)
[04:54] <ardchoille> leboff: It's not recommended
[04:54] <ali1234> shawnr_: wget will ignore that... it's designed to spider pages anyway
[04:54] <leboff> ardchoilee: why not?
[04:55] <bruenig> leboff, I believe so. Just edit your sources.list. However repos with the same packages might not be a good idea
[04:55] <ardchoille> leboff: Because it';s not good to use debian packages on Ubuntu
[04:55] <AWOSDev> So what am I supposed to do?
[04:55] <leboff> ah, ok, thanks.
[04:55] <shawnr_> ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)
[04:55] <bruenig> AWOSDev, that is all I got. Re ask your question, somebody else might know
[04:56] <AWOSDev> It's a Linksys WPC54G v3.  Ubuntu detected it as a Broadcom 4318.
[04:56] <AWOSDev> It says "Access Point: Invalid" and I can't find anywhere that I'm supposed to put the MAC address into
[04:56] <Anon6638> so i made the mistake of updating xorg, now i can't start x server when i reboot
[04:56] <cafuego> AWOSDev: Load the firmware package; disbale ndiswrapper, reboot.
[04:56] <_tcc> Is wireless functionality going to be completely redone?
[04:56] <cafuego> AWOSDev: You need to run 'sudo iwconfig ethX ap any'
[04:57] <rikai> niall, sorry, dont know.
[04:57] <kitche> yeah witht he broadcom chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper anymore
[04:57] <Anon6638> "No devices detected\nFatal server error: no screens found"
[04:57] <rikai> VE, i've got your blue. :<
[04:57] <AWOSDev> cafuego: Error for wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) : SET failed on device eth1; No such device.
[04:57] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix Anon6638
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbugfix Anon6638 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > Anon6638
[04:58] <cafuego> AWOSDev: Do you have the firmware?
[04:58] <DrBanzai> vik_, Any ideas?
[04:58] <jdahm> does ubuntu use udev or devfs by default?
[04:58] <ranunculoid> !xorgbugfix > ranunculoid
[04:58] <jdahm> (Im too lazy to check)
[04:58] <AWOSDev> cafuego, I don't know how to check that.
[04:58] <Dev05> AWOSDev, What is what you need? I've been trying to do wireless for more than three months.
[04:58] <natural20> can't up date to dapper because of NVIDIA driver issues.  the following pages are walkthroughs for installing <ff1.5 on breezy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=398484> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion> <http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/02/upgrading-to-firefox-15-in-ubuntu.html> <http://devhen.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/howto-upgrade-to-firefox-15-on-ubuntu-510-breezy-badger/>  I
[04:58] <natural20> 'm too ignorant to use these sites effectively - I have almost no knowledge of unix/linux - and what little I do know is confouned by Ubuntu's weird su rules.  Can someone help me install firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[04:58] <cafuego> jdahm: udev; devfs was deemed broken a few years ago and never fixed.
[04:58] <shawnr_> ali1234, how do i do that? (thank god i ran into you lol)
[04:58] <leboff> bam
[04:58] <ali1234> shawnr_: hmm seems like you can't do it
[04:58] <leboff> go it
[04:59] <leboff> sudo dpkg -i --force-depends
[04:59] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I need to know why it doesn't work in Ubuntu.
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, there isn't, really, a weird su rule
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, that's a misconception.
[04:59] <lupine_85> ranculoid: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:59] <ali1234> shawnr_: if you can strip the html and produce a file with urls one per line, then you can pip it into 'wget -i -'
[04:59] <erofee> natural try apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:59] <bruenig> natrual20, I am not running breezy but it is probably pretty straight forward. Let me get the package first
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, what is true is that, in one (and _only_ one) of the install options, the root password is not set
[04:59] <fix> Is anyone able to help me set up a wireless USB device for my other computer
[04:59] <ali1234> shawnr_: but that breaks if there's html mixed in
[04:59] <Dev05> AWOSDev, It doesn't work? What are you trying to do that doesn't work?
[04:59] <sethk> natural20, you can set it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu w.r.t. su
[05:00] <AWOSDev> Well it wouldn't set the access point, so I unplugged it and plugged it back in.  Now Ubuntu doesn't even know it exists.
[05:00] <lupine_85> fix: which card?
[05:00] <sethk> natural20, with the nvidia thing (from nvidia's web site) you simply do  ./filename (I forget the exact filename) and it runs the installer
[05:00] <lupine_85> or dongle, rather :)
[05:00] <sethk> natural20, nothing to it
[05:00] <Dev05> AWOSDev, ifconfig
[05:00] <ali1234> shawnr_: hang on... wget -F -i - should do it
[05:00] <AWOSDev> I tried to reboot and it just froze
[05:00] <fix> Lupine, WG111T
[05:01] <AWOSDev> So I'm rebooting the long way :P
[05:01] <fix> "Wireless USB Adaptor"
[05:01] <Dev05> AWOSDev, What's the output of the ifconfig command?
[05:01] <vik_> DrBanzai: sorry, switched computers and lost a bit there. what was the latest?
[05:01] <baconbacon> natural20: i'm pretty sure that if you really need ff1.5 and youre not comfortable with linux yet, you should "install" it to your home dir
[05:01] <bruenig> natural20, ok open up a terminal and do cd /opt
[05:01] <DrBanzai> vik, And, how would I do that?  I'm only mildly familiaer with modules
[05:01] <bruenig> or you can do what baconbacon says
[05:01] <vik_> ah
[05:01] <DrBanzai> vik_, You said to make sure that the modules were loaded, and I asked how to do that
[05:01] <sethk> natural20, as for firefox, the download from the mozilla.org web site only has to be extracted to some directory
[05:01] <ali1234> shawnr_: it may be easiest to do this entirely using wget, check the wget manual page
[05:02] <bruenig> natural20, open up a terminal and cd to where ever you want to install it
[05:02] <baconbacon> if someone wants to walk him through, fine, but i'm burned
[05:02] <shawnr_> ali1234, did that last one work?
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, say you follow baconbacon's advise and make a directory $HOME/firefox
[05:02] <lupine_85> fix: what does lsusb say about the device?
[05:02] <AWOSDev> Dev05, my laptop is almost done rebooting
[05:02] <natural20> breunig: done
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, then you extract the files into ~/firefox  (~ == $HOME)
[05:02] <ali1234> shawnr_: are you registered? if so /msg me
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, then you run it by typing ~/firefox/firefox
[05:02] <bruenig> natural do wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US
[05:02] <sethk> natural20, and you are done
[05:02] <silver_cpu> hi all!
[05:02] <silver_cpu> does anyone here have any experience with video capture?
[05:03] <silver_cpu> i'm trying to get my ati tv-wonder pro to work
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, oh, OK. When you're done you can paste-bin the output so it's easier to read (instead of on the channel).
[05:03] <sethk> bruenig, it's a hell of a lot easier to just go there with the browser and click on the link
[05:03] <silver_cpu> the video works great, but the audio is nonexistant
[05:03] <niall> how can i see which usb port my phone is plugged into and how can i detect it
[05:03] <sethk> niall, dmesg
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> whoops.
[05:03] <AWOSDev> Dev05, ifconfig doesn't list my eth1 WLAN card.
[05:03] <genfoo> what are the alsa dev pkgs?
[05:03] <sethk> niall, do dmesg, look at the end of the listing, then turn the phone on, do dmesg again
[05:03] <bruenig> sethk, tis but then again, it is pretty damn easy to download it extract it and then double click on the binary that says firefox, he wasn't able to do that
[05:03] <AWOSDev> Dev05, iwconfig does.  Is that what you want?
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, it should normally be something like ra0.
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> when I moved, I accidentally copied my home/user/ contents to the new /home
[05:03] <genfoo> what are the alsa dev pkgs?
[05:03] <BHSPitLappy> and I can't sudo now to fix it
[05:03] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Paste-Bin all the output.
[05:04] <vik_> DrBanzai: if your using one of the ubuntu kernel packages you should be OK
[05:04] <sethk> niall, at the end you'll get some additional lines due to the usb device being detected
[05:04] <AWOSDev> Dev05, Okay.
[05:04] <josie> i got a message saying updates were available, so i installed them, and it said it needed to restart. so i restarted, and now i'm getting the error "no devices found" when X tries to start
[05:04] <nzx> hey, what program do i use to edit partitions on kde ?
[05:04] <bruenig> it is easier to know what directory he is doing it in so that I don't have to wonder where he chose to download it to. If it is on the desktop or where ever he  might put it
[05:04] <sethk> bruenig, to me, typing firefox is a lot easier than trying to learn a file application just to double click on it.
[05:04] <josie> any ideas?
[05:04] <natural20> bruening: i get: cannot write to 'firefox setup 1.5.0.6.exe' permission denied.  should i have sudo'ed?
[05:04] <DarkMageZ> josie, the new xserver-xorg-core package causes issues for some people
[05:04] <sethk> bruenig, that's true
[05:04] <erofee> josie, so X is disabled?
[05:04] <josie> DarkMageZ: oh
[05:04] <DrBanzai> vik_, I am
[05:04] <sethk> natural20, that's not what you want
[05:04] <josie> erofee: yes
[05:05] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[05:05] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade, see the first comment against the bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix'
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, two problems.
[05:05] <josie> thx
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, the first, that's the wrong file, it's an exe and obviously for windows
[05:05] <natural20> i am a man nearly reduced to tears.  i just want to check my email.
[05:05] <bruenig> natural20, if you are doing it in /opt, which is the purpose of that directory. For just this reason, then you would do sudo. But others seem to think the /opt directory is bad. I defer to them I guess
[05:05] <stiv2k> how do i delete stuff off my "Places" menu in GNOME?  there's a whole list of FTP servers on it that dont work anymore
[05:05] <sethk> natural20, second you are trying to write it to a directory for which you don't have write privileges
[05:05] <lupine_85>  fix: hmm. looks like there's no native linux driver, so it's an ndiswrapper job
 im finding it hard to see the phone or any change "dmesg"
[05:05] <bruenig> .exe, the link I gave you was for .tar.gz
[05:05] <Sid> natural20: what's wrong? is it still that java thing?
[05:05] <sethk> niall, possibly it isn't being detected
[05:05] <natural20> i wish i knew
[05:05] <vik_> DrBanzai: does /dev/ttyS0 (or your chosen port) exist?
[05:06] <lupine_85> download the latest version of the drivers from Netgear, and the latest version of ndiswrapper from their site, and put them together
[05:06] <lupine_85> fingers crossed, it'll work
[05:06] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yes, it does
[05:06] <stephans> hi, does anyone know how to get 3d accel working on a dell 700m??? I lost this when I swiched to Ubuntu... Gogle Earth is sloooooow.... and chomium too
 is there anthing i can do or is there something missing in the way of a driver
[05:06] <fix> i did lupine, it doesn't show up
[05:06] <vik_> DrBanzai: any writable by you? (I'm assuming you're using the first serial port?)
[05:06] <DrBanzai> vik_, I wonder if it's a permission thing...
[05:06] <vik_> DrBanzai: that's what I'm just thinking...
[05:07] <vik_> DrBanzai: try minicom as root
[05:07] <bimberi> stiv2k: go to Places -> Network, right-click and 'unmount volume' the unwanted ones
[05:07] <sethk> niall, possibly.  have you used any other usb device with the ubuntu install?
[05:07] <vik_> DrBanzai: or rather sudo
[05:07] <sethk> niall, you may have to load usb kernel modules
[05:07] <silver_cpu> anyone here familiar with tv capture?
[05:07] <bimberi> stiv2k: Network *Servers*
 yeah it picks up the webcma no sweat
[05:07] <John[1] > Hello all
[05:07] <stiv2k> bimberi: thanks
[05:07] <DrBanzai> vik_, When I do cd /dev, then ls -l ttyS0 I get: crw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-08-21 21:40 ttyS0
[05:07] <niall> *webcam
[05:07] <sethk> niall, ok
[05:07] <leboff> so my apt now seems to think i have a broken package.. is there anyway to get it to ignore that?
[05:08] <stephans> is there a video card configuration tool for ubuntu?
[05:08] <bimberi> stiv2k: yw :)
[05:08] <skaller> Hi, I justr installed latest Xcore update, trashed my X can someone help
[05:08] <bruenig> natural20, do you still want to install ff 1.5?
[05:08] <sethk> niall, then, at an absolute minimum, you should get detection messages from the driver, with dmesg, after connecting the device and turning it on
[05:08] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > skaller
[05:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell skaller about xorgbug
[05:08] <natural20> bruenig: please
[05:08] <lupine_85> fix: have you tried http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[05:08] <leboff> silver_cpu .. i've had some attempts.. but my card is too obscure.. what are you lookin for?
[05:08] <lupine_85> might succeed
[05:08] <skaller> hang on I tell exact error
[05:08] <fix> lupine: let me go look at that thank you
[05:09] <bruenig> natural20, ok it is going to have to be in your home directory because they seem to not like it being in /opt and also that helps a lot with permission issues
[05:09] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, then it looks like it's not compatible
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: i'm looking to get sound from my ati tv-wonder pro
[05:09] <skaller> can't find symbol __glXLastContext
[05:09] <vik_> DrBanzai: are you part of the dialout group? Just try 'sudo minicom' and see if that works  firstly
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: video comes through really well, but audio doesn't
[05:09] <John[1] > Someon willing to help me out with an install isse?
[05:09] <John[1] > issue?
[05:09] <DrBanzai> vik_, Still nothing, and minicom still says it's offline
[05:09] <skaller> in libGLcore.so
[05:09] <natural20> bruenig: so replace /opt with /home?
[05:09] <leboff> #video4lin
[05:09] <leboff> oops
[05:09] <sethk> John[1] , ask a more specific question and you'll find out
[05:09] <AWOSDev> Dev05, http://pastebin.com/772963
[05:09] <vik_> DrBanzai: have a look in /var/lock. anything related to ttyS ?
[05:09] <bruenig> natural20, natural20, just open up a fresh terminal, you will be in the right directory
[05:09] <silver_cpu> leboff: my card uses an interconnect cable to send audio out of the capture card to the sound card's line in, and i've got my sound card's line in up (volume-wise), and the other card's line out up
[05:09] <AWOSDev> Dev05, since I had to type everything into my desktop, I didn't do lo (I'm pretty sure that lo works :P )
[05:10] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Working on it :)
[05:10] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yup
[05:10] <bimberi> skaller: you should have a couple of /msg's from ubotu with instructions
[05:10] <silver_cpu> leboff: thanks, i'll visit that chan and see what happens
[05:10] <bruenig> natural20, do "wget http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US"
[05:10] <skaller> k thx lookiung
[05:10] <Dev05> AWOSDev, Would you mind doing this through PM? Less noise.
[05:11] <AWOSDev> Dev05, yeah how does that work?
[05:11] <leboff> silver_cpu: its #v4l not video4lin
[05:11] <John[1] > Okay, sorry.  I'm trying to install the lamp server per the directions at http://howtoforge.com/lamp_installation_ubuntu6.06
[05:11] <DrBanzai> vik_, That could be left over from when I had it set up as a dial in server
[05:11] <Dev05> AWOSDev, First you have to register. Then you can PM anyone.
[05:11] <sethk> John[1] , that's better, but I still haven't seen a question
[05:11] <AWOSDev> Dev05, register?  I already have with Ubuntu.  I have to register with freenode?
[05:11] <John[1] > I'm down to the part where I can install the ubuntu desktop
[05:11] <vik_> DrBanzai: dial in?
[05:12] <Dev05> AWOSDev, yeah.
[05:12] <vik_> DrBanzai: that process wouldn't still be running would it?
[05:12] <AWOSDev> Dev05, okay I will now.
[05:12] <Dev05> tell AWOSDev about register
[05:12] <DrBanzai> vik_, I'm not sure...lemme check
[05:12] <skaller>  Launchpad is offline at the moment for maintenance. It should be back, better than ever, soon. Thanks for your patience.
[05:12] <skaller> wonderful
[05:12] <vik_> DrBanzai: kill anything that might be holding the serial port, delete the lock file if its still there, then try minicom again
[05:12] <bruenig> natural20, tell me when that finishes
where normally are usb ports and devices mounted at
[05:12] <sethk> niall, /media/usbXXXXX
[05:13] <vik_> Grrrrrrrr. X just died
[05:13] <bimberi> !xorgbugfix
[05:13] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[05:13] <bimberi> skaller:  ^^^^^
[05:13] <sethk> niall, the XXXXX of course varies with the device
[05:13] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I can't find it on their Web site.  Where is it?
[05:13] <natural20> bruenig: finished
[05:13] <Dev05> !register
[05:13] <bruenig> natural20, do "tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz" this will extract the file
[05:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:13] <skaller> bimberi and hints in the meantime?
 nop usb devices are listed here
[05:13] <skaller> *any
[05:13] <John[1] > After I run the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I do not getht desktop.  I endup back at the command prompt.
[05:13] <AWOSDev> Dev05, thank you.
[05:14] <sethk> niall, there are other names.  my palm comes up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1
[05:14] <dr_willis> John[1] ,  did it say it installed some stuff?
[05:14] <sethk> niall, so not having devices there doesn't really prove much
[05:14] <bruenig> natural20, ok now. How do you want to launch this. An icon on the desktop or in the menus or panel or what?
[05:14] <Xnix> are there known issues with sata hard drives during the dapper install?
 k
[05:14] <sethk> niall, the thing is, if the device is created, a dmesg output will show it
[05:14] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm trying to share an internet connection on my laptop to a friend. what's the easiest way to do it in ubuntu? I know firestarter has a good interface for it but I'm using network manager to help manage my wireless card and it disables your other devices when not being used so firestarter says it's unable to activate my eth0 (lan card) on the laptop
[05:14] <cdc> i get disconnected from the net in seconds because an other interface gets created automatically by name ppp1
[05:15] <bimberi> skaller: those commands (from ubotu) will downgrade xserver-xorg-core to the version prior to the update
[05:15] <natural20> bruenig: tar: firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:15] <natural20> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:15] <DrBanzai> vik_, I don't see anything running, except maybe getty, and this is effecting both ttyS0 and S1
[05:15] <dr_willis> natural20,  you sure ya got the file name right?
[05:15] <John[1] > Wow there is so much going on in here I can't keep up hardley!!!
[05:15] <bruenig> natural20, do ls
[05:15] <bruenig> tell me what the output is
[05:15] <sethk> natural20, do ls -ltr   the most recent file will be the last one listed
[05:15] <Dial_tone> somebody should tie an IED to K-Fed's ass
[05:15] <fix> Is anyone experienced in getting internet with the USB Wireless Adaptor: WG111T -- I have tryed everything I could think of which isn't much since I am new with linux. I am trying to get internet on my laptop.
[05:15] <sethk> natural20, or ls -ltr | tail -1
[05:16] <lupine_85> linuxant doesn't work then?
[05:16] <natural20> download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6
[05:16] <sethk> Dial_tone, was that relevant to something?
[05:16] <bruenig> lol
[05:16] <fix> I have no idea where my USB thing is lupine ;\
[05:16] <bruenig> it downloaded the html, that is funny
[05:16] <fix> Can't find WG111T on there
[05:16] <vik_> DrBanzai: so getty's prolly taking the port. (perhaps mgetty?) It is probably respawning if you kill it. have a look in /etc/inittab
[05:16] <IcemanV9> John[1] : turn on closed-captioning on ur tv; practices reading, then soon you'll be able to keep up with this room chat ;)
[05:16] <bruenig> i guess that link merely refers you to a mirror not the actual file, well I guess it will have to be done graphically
[05:16] <Dial_tone> nothing K-fed does is relevant
[05:17] <leboff> my synaptic seems to think theres a broken package (one i installed without it..) is there anyway to get it to ignore that
[05:17] <bruenig> natural20, go to here http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US in a web browser and download firefox. Save it to your username directory if you can
[05:18] <lupine_85> if it's not mentioned, it's worth a try. I'd suggest you download and install it along with the most recent windows drivers for your card that you can find
[05:18] <RamiKassab> guys, any idea on how to share an internet connection via Firestarted? my lan device is active but Firestarter says the device isn't ready. I have Network Manager installed and Network Manager requires you to comment out the devices from /etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <skaller> bimberi .. i'm on amd64 not x86
[05:18] <lupine_85> there is no linux driver, so it's linuxant or ndiswrapper - and you've already tried the latter
[05:18] <natural20> bruenig is my username directory home?
[05:18] <DrBanzai> vik_, Well, that was set to use ttyS1
[05:18] <fix> Wait linuxant is a program itself?
[05:18] <lupine_85> yes
[05:18] <bimberi> skaller: oops
[05:19] <fix> I have tryed ndiswrapper but I have no idea what I was doing lol,, let me go try to find this linuxant program and see if it works
[05:19] <lupine_85> it's like ndiswrapper - lets you use windows network drivers in linux
[05:19] <bruenig> natural20, it will be /home/username
[05:19] <fix> okay ty
[05:19] <vik_> and you've been trying minicom on ttyS0?
[05:19] <bruenig> natural20, it should say your username in the download dialog of firefox when you choose to download it
[05:19] <fix> Also quick question, so I dont have to use up my cd's
[05:19] <skaller> luckily i have 2 machines or I'd be upgrading to Windows :)
[05:19] <fix> How do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?
[05:20] <bimberi> skaller: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_amd64.deb
[05:20] <IcemanV9> RamiKassab: see if it does work without firestarter?
[05:20] <doughboy> Can anyone tell me how to get samba to share printer on my dapper box to windows laptop?
[05:20] <leboff> is it possible to get synaptic to ignore broken packages?
[05:20] <skaller> is that a patched .deb?
[05:20] <RamiKassab> IcemanV9: see if what works without firestarted? the shared internet connection?
[05:20] <DrBanzai> vik_, So, when I look at my processes under top, is getty the one I want to kill?
[05:20] <Dev05> !tell doughboy about samba
[05:21] <IcemanV9> RamiKassab: yes. shared net connection
[05:21] <gaspock5> ubotu: I <3 u
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I <3 u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <vik_> DrBanzai: well, it will respawn, so there's no point unless you've changed inittab.
[05:21] <RamiKassab> IcemanV9: how do you share an internet connection without firestarter? don't you need to edit config files and install a bunch of shit?
[05:21] <DrBanzai> vik_, Yeah, I changed inittab
[05:21] <natural20> bruenig: my downloads go to my desktop, home does not have a username folder.
[05:21] <fix> ow do I make it so the file saves onto the USB pendrive and not just disapear when I take it out?
[05:22] <DrBanzai> vik_, But is it getty I want to kill, or mgetty?
[05:22] <sethk> RamiKassab, yes and no.  you don't need to install "a bunch of ..."   you do need to do a bit of configuration
[05:22] <vik_> DrBanzai: but if getty is listening on ttyS1 and you're trying to use ttyS0, then there should be no conflict
[05:22] <ivan`> does anyone know of a fan control solution on the old powerbook 867mhz G4s that have a /proc/device-tree/uni-n@f8000000/i2c@f8001000/fan@188 ?
[05:22] <bruenig> natural20, just put it in your desktop that is fine. We will move it later
[05:22] <DrBanzai> vik_, So it would seem.
[05:22] <John[1] > After I install the dapper server, I run apt-get update.  Then I run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  only I never end up with a desktop at reboot.  Any ideas?
[05:22] <bruenig> tell me when it is downloaded
[05:22] <vik_> DrBanzai: which is the one in inittab that was set to listen on the serial port? getty or mgetty?
[05:22] <natural20> bruenig: i lied, home does have a username folder.  the file is there
[05:22] <RamiKassab> sethk: I had found a guide to help with with that and did it one time but it would work for a while then stop working. I think network manager messes it all up
[05:22] <bruenig> natural20 ok, open up a terminal and do cd
[05:22] <RamiKassab> sethk: I had enabled ip forwarding and all that
[05:23] <bruenig> natural20, then do tar xf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz
[05:23] <DrBanzai> vik_, mgetty, which I do not see listed in top
[05:23] <jackie> hi, somebody can help me with 3d acceleration of nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  ? please. i just install ubuntu 6.06, but have no 3d. :(
[05:23] <bruenig> !nvidia
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <AWOSDev> Dev05, I'm signed up.  Now how do I PM you?
[05:24] <bruenig> natural20, was that successful or what
[05:24] <natural20> bruenig, the terminal just gave a new command line, that's it
[05:24] <bruenig> natural20, perfect
[05:24] <fix> Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?
[05:25] <bruenig> natural20, how do you want to run it. An icon on the desktop. A menu entry or what
[05:25] <skaller> ok bimberi, thanks, that was a downgrade, it worked .. very confusing because i was making a chroot for Debian sid at the same time
[05:25] <bruenig> how do you want to start firefox when you use it
[05:25] <cdc> Hello people could some one help me pls
[05:25] <cdc> i get disconnected too often from the internet
[05:25] <bruenig> !ask
[05:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <bimberi> skaller: yw :)
[05:25] <natural20> bruenig: icon on the taskbar would be ideal, but i'll take anything.  desktop is fine
[05:25] <cdc> in few seconds i use pppoe to connect to the internet
[05:25] <bruenig> taskbar? the panel?
[05:26] <fdsd> hey guys, is there any usplash experts in here?
[05:26] <cdc> and after i get connected an other new interface by name ppp1 gets created automatically
[05:26] <fix> !ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet?
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask  Is there anyway you can connect a computer that has internet with a computer that doesn't have internet through ETHERNET and get internet on the computer that doesn't have internet..like sharing internet? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <cdc> and i get disconnected.
[05:26] <natural20> bruenig: to me taskbar = applications, places, system, etc
[05:26] <skaller> bimberi can u explain the problem, will it be fixed?
[05:26] <lupine_85> fix - you want something called "ip forwarding"
[05:26] <cdc> skaller, is it for me ?
[05:26] <lupine_85> trivial to set up
[05:26] <bruenig> natural20, ok, go to applications>accessories>alacarte menu editor
[05:26] <skaller> bimberi
[05:26] <bimberi> skaller: no and yes :)
[05:26] <livesNbox> hey guys -- i got my sprint evdo card working inside of Ubuntu -- is there a way I can share that internet connection via an ad hoc wireless connection to another laptop ?
[05:26] <fix> I'm not sure what I want..I am just trying to get internet on my other computer ;\
[05:27] <lupine_85> (as long as the PC in the middle is on linux, anyway!)
[05:27] <dindin> I just updated xserver-xorg and now X wont' start
[05:27] <cdc> skaller, could you help me please?
[05:27] <lupine_85> So you've got PC<->PC<->Internet ?
[05:27] <natural20> bruenig, i have no alacarte menu editor :( sorry
[05:27] <bruenig> natural20, when you get in there click on internet and then do file>new entry
[05:27] <bruenig> natural20, oh yeah breezy
[05:27] <skaller> bimberi: desktops wants to do the upgrade again, how can I tell when it is safe to do so?
[05:27] <cdc> lupine_85, its a stand alone PC in my side
[05:27] <fix> yeh lupine
[05:27] <lupine_85> dindin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[05:27] <bruenig> well, panel or desktop is your choice I guess
[05:27] <cdc> lupine_85, i use pppoeconf to configure the internet
[05:27] <fix> But only temporarily
[05:27] <natural20> desktop is fine
[05:28] <bruenig> right click on the desktop and select create launcher
[05:28] <skaller> bimberi  .. ah .. lauchpad bug report .. ok
[05:28] <lupine_85> sorry cdc I don't have any idea re: your program (never used ppp)
[05:28] <bruenig> Name it whatever you want Firefox 1.5 seems good to me
[05:28] <bimberi> skaller: idk for sure sorry, look for it wanting to install a version higher than ......10.3
[05:28] <riddlebox> is there a way to tell the package updater not to even look at a certain package, I had to recompile ffmpeg with a certain parameter and now ubuntu wants to always update it
[05:28] <DrBanzai> vik_, Welp, I got work in the morning.  Thanks for the help...I may just have to wait till I wipe and install dapper
[05:28] <natural20> done
[05:28] <cdc> has anyone used pppoe on Ubuntu here ?
[05:28] <fix> lupine how would I do pc<-->pc<-->Internet ?
[05:28] <cdc> I am facing problems with pppoe connection
[05:28] <bruenig> give whatever comment you want. The only thing you must do is have the command say ~/firefox/firefox
[05:29] <riddlebox> cdc, whats the problem
[05:29] <cdc> can some one help me . i get disconnected from the internet in seconds
[05:29] <haasteem> !repositories
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:29] <CyberMad> what is the difference between ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso and ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ? i want install it in my laptop
[05:29] <skaller> bimberi: it probably has something to do with X win bindings to closed source GEForce driver
[05:29] <cdc> riddlebox, i get disconnected from the internet with in seconds i use pppoeconf to connect to the internet and a new interface by name ppp0 gets created but after few seconds an other interface by name ppp1 gets created
[05:29] <cdc> and i get disconnected
[05:29] <bruenig> natural20, if you want to icon, click on icon and the path should be /home/username/firefox/icons, of course replace username with your username
[05:29] <bruenig> the icon*
[05:30] <cdc> riddlebox, whats that i am missing in the configuration
[05:30] <cdc> i use pon dsl-provider
[05:30] <cdc> to start my connection
[05:30] <lupine_85> fix: on the middle (linux) pc, you should run 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'
[05:30] <riddlebox> cdc, hrmm I am looking
[05:30] <Sid> CyberMad: the dvd version contains both the livecd version AND the standard install version. The desktop version is a liveCD that you can install as well.
[05:30] <bruenig> when you get all of that sorted out. Hit ok or whatever it is and then that should work
[05:30] <skaller> cdc: your password?
[05:30] <cdc> riddlebox, when i start downloading something a new interface gets created
[05:30] <fix> lupine, should I run that with the computer that has internet or that needs internet?
[05:30] <natural20> bruenig: i click on the icon, but i get this error: Failed to execute child process "~firefox/firefox" (no such filre or directory)
[05:31] <cdc> skaller, password ? its perfect
[05:31] <CyberMad> Sid thanks... i will choose the desktop version
[05:31] <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that
[05:31] <Sid> CyberMad: In other words, you can download either, and get a disc that lets you both run Ubuntu from disc and install it.
[05:31] <lupine_85> the one that already has internet
[05:31] <cdc> when i start downloading something i get disconnected
[05:31] <Sid> CyberMad: good choice.
[05:31] <lupine_85> the setting will be wiped every time you reboot
[05:31] <bruenig> natural20, you have to use ~/firefox/firefox, the / is important after the `
[05:31] <bruenig> ~
[05:31] <fix> Okay, after that what would I do?
[05:31] <skaller> when you download with firefox?
[05:31] <dindin> lupine_85: Thanks!
[05:31] <lupine_85> [04:31]  <lupine_85> then plug in all your cables. configure the two pcs to talk to each other through one interface; everything should work fine after that
[05:32] <lupine_85> dindin: that was @fix
[05:32] <natural20> bruenig my command is this:  ~/firefox/firefox
[05:32] <riddlebox> cdc, straight from google, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138.html
[05:32] <bruenig> yes
[05:32] <bruenig> does that error. It might
[05:32] <fix> How do i configure the 2 pc's to talk to each other through oneinterface?
[05:32] <skaller> cdc: I think i know what is happening: some stupid program is trying to make a connection automatically
[05:32] <natural20> bruenig: error still
[05:32] <skaller> and it is killing the old connection
[05:32] <bruenig> if it does error. You need to do /home/username/firefox/firefox, replace username with your own
[05:32] <lupine_85> just give them an IP in the same range
[05:32] <bruenig> that is the command
[05:33] <fix> What is the command to give them both the same IP in the same range?
[05:33] <KeithWeisshar> i just bought a WD MyBook drive, when I boot into linux the drive locks up and linux won't recognize the drive
[05:33] <KeithWeisshar> when I reboot I get the error device descriptor read/64, error -110
[05:33] <bruenig> this /home/username/firefox/firefox is the command
[05:33] <k1ll3rr3d> anyone have experience with hula email?
[05:33] <lupine_85> ok, run 'ifconfig ethX <ip address>' on each computer
[05:33] <McJerry> lupine_85 I've been able to get a linksys wpc54gs working with ndiswrapper under ubuntu and it will negotiate an ip addy via dhcp with any essid without security
[05:33] <cdc> riddlebox, ok one more question when i do make it says command not found which package should i install . I have installed automake
[05:33] <McJerry> how can i get it to negotiate with an essid using wpa
[05:33] <fix> ip address would be? 192.168.0.1 or something?
[05:34] <KeithWeisshar> why does the drive lock up when initializing the usb mass storage driver
[05:34] <haasteem> where do i find the hoary repositories?
[05:34] <brandon123> What is the command to install updates for ubuntu?
[05:34] <bruenig> !hoary
[05:34] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[05:34] <natural20> bruenig: nothing happens with new command line
[05:34] <cdc> i am unable to compile using make command.
[05:34] <riddlebox> cdc, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:34] <UpMarc> hi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?
[05:34] <lupine_85> fix: yes :). Choose something in a different range to your current ip address (e.g. say your middle PC has got 192.168.0.11 to talk to the router, use 192.168.1.1 to talk to the end PC)
[05:35] <bruenig> natural20, put that in the command part of the launcher not in the command line
[05:35] <bruenig> and make sure you replace username with your username
[05:35] <haasteem> bruenig: they're not there... ;)
[05:35] <fix> and this will resset on startup?
[05:35] <brandon123> What is the command to install updates for ubuntu, anyone?
[05:35] <mike654> can i go from 64 bit to 32 bit without using the cd?
[05:35] <bruenig> haasteem, aren't they though
[05:35] <dibblego> on installing I try to repartition my disk alongside windows but after partitioning occurs, the partition table doesn't look as if it has changed
[05:35] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get update
[05:35] <bruenig> why are you using hoary. Might as well get amiga going
[05:35] <natural20> bruening: yes, comand text feild of launcher, yes, baumbuffi instead of username
[05:35] <lupine_85> in addition, you'll need to run 'ifconfig ethX netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast <ip-but-ending-with.255>'
[05:35] <dr_willis> dibblego,  what are ya parttining them with?
[05:35] <lupine_85> fix: yes
[05:36] <brandon123> dibblego i did that but that does not install the updates
[05:36] <bruenig> natural20, put that command in the command line now and see if it works
[05:36] <bruenig> in the terminal rather
[05:36] <bruenig> put it in the terminal
[05:36] <dibblego> dr_willis, the installer thing that partitions them (forget the name and I'm not at the machine at this very point in time)
[05:36] <dibblego> brandon123, which updates?
[05:36] <McJerry> brandon123 in a terminal sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <haasteem> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:36] <lupine_85> on the end pc, you'll also need to run 'ip route add default via <middle-pc-ip-address> dev ethX'
[05:36] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get dist-update
[05:36] <lupine_85> all as root/sudo, of course
[05:36] <mike654> can i go from 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu without using a 32-bit CD?
[05:37] <dibblego> er wait
[05:37] <dibblego> brandon123, sudo apt-get upgrade (sorry)
[05:37] <dr_willis> dibblego,  some times a reboot is needed so the system can see the  changes
[05:37] <bruenig> mik654, I will say it is unlikely
[05:37] <brandon123> dibblego: thanx
[05:37] <UpMarc> hi!... can someone tell me how to run Wine or put it in my applications menu?
[05:37] <mike654> yeah thought so, but worth asking
[05:37] <haasteem> bruenig: there is a hoaryupgradenotes wiki
[05:37] <JoseStefan> any known issues with the latest xserver update on 6.06?
[05:37] <fix> i kind of forgot the commands so could you say them again in a private chat because all this talking is hard to comprehend
[05:37] <natural20> bruening: /home/baumbuffi/firefox/firefox does not work, nothing happens
[05:37] <fix> BTW, i really appreciate your jelp
[05:37] <fix> help*
[05:37] <bruenig> UpMarc, wine is not really that kind of application
[05:37] <dibblego> dr_willis, ok I'll try it
[05:37] <McJerry> anyone here using a linksys wpc54gs pcmcia wifi card?
[05:37] <cdc> riddlebox, i think i found it
[05:38] <lupine_85>  McJerry: well done :).
[05:38] <bruenig> natural 20 do "cd ~/firefox && ./firefox"
[05:38] <haasteem> bruenig: i guess they must be that... at least they are not the ones in the /etc/apt/sources.list that comes with the hoary cd
[05:38] <cdc> riddlebox, initially the dsl-provider file had these 2 uncommented lines
[05:38] <cdc> #lcp-echo-interval 30
[05:38] <cdc> #lcp-echo-failure 4
[05:38] <lupine_85> I'm not registered so I can't do /msg
[05:38] <cdc> but now i ve commented out these
[05:38] <fix> oh
[05:38] <sethk> bruenig, might be worthwhile to teach him tab completion.  that way at least whatever he types exists
[05:38] <lupine_85> tell you what, join #ubuntu-lupine
[05:38] <cdc> will this solve the problem? i think it has but not very sure
[05:38] <fix> okay thank you lupine
[05:38] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  normally ya download the program ya want to install. install wine, then do a 'wine installer.exe' and it 'should' put an icon in  the menus for the installed program.
[05:38] <McJerry> lupine_85, i still have an issue I need some direction with
[05:39] <natural20> bruenig: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:39] <sethk> natural20, bruenig ok, that answers that.  he needs libstdc++.so.5
[05:39] <UpMarc> dr_willis: Wine is installed but not in the applications menu...
[05:39] <McJerry> linksys wpc54gs card negotiates link with any unsecured essid but i cannot negotiate link to my essid using wpa encryption.  Suggestions??
[05:40] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  thats because you dont normally run just 'wine' you use 'wine windowsbinary.exe'
[05:40] <John[1] > what is the command to get the updated repositorys
[05:40] <JoseStefan> Any known issues with the latest xserver-xorg update on dapper?
[05:40] <UpMarc> bruenig: someone told me it would work like Window Movie Maker
[05:40] <jackie> !nvidia
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <bruenig> UpMarc, what are you trying to do with wine
[05:40] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, besides it breaking xorg, nope
[05:40] <stephans> 3d accel doesn not work in intel 810 cards
[05:40] <bruenig> !Info libstdc++5
[05:40] <ubotu> Package libstdc5 does not exist in dapper
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, I'll get the package name
[05:41] <UpMarc> bruenig: wanna run .wmv files and edit them
[05:41] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, i'd downgrading, or not upgrading
[05:41] <bruenig> UpMarc, what application are you going to use to do that
[05:41] <billytwowilly> hey, is the macbook officially supported by ubuntu?
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, in breezy it's libstdc++5
[05:41] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  you dont 'run' wmv's they are video files - that MAY be viewable in vlc, xine, mplayer, or totem.
[05:41] <sethk> bruenig, :)
[05:41] <bruenig> sethk
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  some wmv's may not be viewable at all - it depends on the wmv codecs
[05:42] <cdc> let me check again
[05:42] <UpMarc> dr_willis: none of those read .wmv files :-(
[05:42] <sethk> bruenig, there is also libstdc++5-3.3-dbg and libstdc++5-3.3-dev in breezy
[05:42] <JoseStefan> DarkMageZ, i find it very weird that an update can break so many setups
[05:42] <chuck> so uh, do I just like, ask a question?
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  they can IF the wmv codec is one they can handle.
[05:42] <Sid> chuck: indeed
[05:42] <McJerry> chuck, yes
[05:42] <sethk> bruenig, but I'm not sure those contains actual libraries
[05:42] <UpMarc> dr_willis: but where can I get codec for them?
[05:42] <bruenig> alright natural20, I hope this firefox is worth it. Try sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[05:42] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, me to, i can't believe such a bad package made it to the main repos...
[05:42] <bruenig> dev likely does not
[05:42] <dr_willis> UpMarc,  ya just asked a FAQ! :P
[05:42] <Anubuntu> hello, how do I mount an external usb harddrive via ubuntu?
[05:43] <wolfmanz> whats the command to list the drives connected to a computer?
[05:43] <Sid> Anubuntu: you mean, it doesn't do it automatically for ya?
[05:43] <Anubuntu> well
[05:43] <Anubuntu> its plugged in
[05:43] <Anubuntu> nothings showing up in places
[05:43] <dr_willis> wolfmanz,  'sudo fdisk -l' is one i use
[05:43] <sethk> bruenig, -dbg has the libraries
[05:43] <Anubuntu> it shows up in the device manager
[05:43] <Anubuntu> but no where else
[05:43] <bruenig> natural20, are you still there
[05:43] <Sid> hmm
[05:44] <sethk> bruenig, -dev does also, in a gcc-lib directory
[05:44] <natural20> bruenig, yes, it is doing stuff
[05:44] <chuck> awesome... so I was trying to get that fancy 3ddesktop thingy to work, and discovered I needed glx(?) which needs dri(?) ... then I read that dri isn't supported on my sis m760gx card, so is my situation hopeless?
[05:44] <bruenig> as long as I don't have to do any path specifying, I will happy
[05:44] <wweasel> !ntfs
[05:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:44] <danieleboyo> i have a probelm with a partiton auto disabling itself after reboot
[05:44] <redsoxfan90> can some1 pm me and help me?
[05:44] <natural20> bruening: it appears to have worked
[05:44] <sethk> redsoxfan90, why not ask your question here?
[05:45] <bruenig> redsox fan what do you need, you probably have a better chance will 784
[05:45] <Sid> Anubuntu: sadly, this is where my expertise ends.
[05:45] <bruenig> natural 20 retry that command I gave you earlier
[05:45] <bruenig> the one that ended ./firefox
[05:45] <UpMarc> ok thank you all anyway
[05:45] <natural20> bruenig: YES!
[05:45] <natural20> YES YES YES
[05:45] <JoseStefan> DarkMageZ, I wonder if the package has missing dependencies, or a broken dependency tree
[05:45] <bruenig> natural20, redo that launcher thing and put that command in it
[05:45] <Sid> chuck: your sis card... 2D or 3D?
[05:46] <danieleboyo> anyone willing to help me with an autodisabling partition?
[05:46] <natural20> i had no need to do anything to the launcher
[05:46] <rixth> Yo. How do I setup software raid?
[05:46] <DarkMageZ> JoseStefan, possible, but that's for the maintainers to sort out :)
[05:46] <chuck> hmm... I don't know, how do I find out?
[05:46] <lupine_85> wpa_supplicant
[05:46] <Plutarch> Yo, I don't know.
[05:46] <lupine_85> !wpa_supplicant
[05:46] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[05:46] <Plutarch> Hey Yo, what do you know?  Our flowers won't grow.
[05:46] <bruenig> natural20, you mean you just clicked the launcher and it worked?
[05:46] <natural20> bruenig, correct
[05:46] <bruenig> natural20, ok well it should have worked originally but the library got in the way
[05:46] <bruenig> ok well good then
[05:46] <wweasel> !fat32
[05:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:47] <bruenig> I am off to bed
[05:47] <natural20> bruenig, thank you so much
[05:47] <natural20> sethk, thank you too
[05:47] <danieleboyo> any ideas? auto disabling partition after reboot
[05:47] <Sid> chuck: at this point, it looks to me like you card's 3D capabilities may or may not be installed/supported under Ubuntu.
[05:48] <sethk> danieleboyo, usually you need to run fsck, possibly with non-standard arguments or y interactive answers, to fix the partition
[05:48] <Sid> chuck: heh, you wouldn't happen to know someone called himeka?
[05:48] <danieleboyo> sethk: could you elaborate a bit more please?
[05:48] <lupine_85> did you get that McJerry?
[05:49] <chuck> hmm, no, who's himeka?
[05:49] <sethk> danieleboyo, tell me exactly what is happening
[05:49] <yurtle> hello can somone direct me to a php-nuke channel ?
[05:49] <brandon123> I updated xorg and now i cant get on it :( anyone help?
[05:49] <weirdo> i need help following directions on this forum.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[05:49] <inrelief_> hey all, i've got totem with the xine backend and i'm trying to play encrypted dvd's with no luck
[05:49] <weirdo> one of their code has a smiley face in it..
[05:49] <lupine_85> brandon123: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158 or just run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[05:50] <Sid> chuck: someone I know who shares your e-mail domain. Alas.
[05:50] <weirdo> search for #video.driver:auto
[05:50] <danieleboyo> sethk: what happens is that i have a partition that starts disabled and i am able to enable it, but upon reboot, its is disabled again
[05:50] <weirdo> what should have been in place of the smiley face?
[05:50] <brandon123> lupine_85 thankyou very much
[05:50] <lupine_85> np
[05:50] <sethk> danieleboyo, how do you enable it?
[05:50] <sethk> danieleboyo, and what do you mean exactly by disabled?
[05:50] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i just used the "/dapper" method, seems more standard-ish
[05:51] <Sid> chuck: but yeah, I'm trying to look up your card right now
[05:51] <Sid> chuck: is it a laptop that uses your card?
[05:51] <danieleboyo> it no longer is a mounted, and i enable it by going to the default disk editor that comes with dapper
[05:51] <wolfmanz> dr_willis: thanks for that info.
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, I suspect that the file system isn't clean, and during the boot process it is not mounted for that reason
[05:52] <chuck> yeah, one of those darn acers
[05:52] <dr_willis> wolfmanz,  linux FUNdamentals
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, run dmesg, and see if there are any messages about something not mounted
[05:52] <chuck> what does my e-mail domain show up as?
[05:52] <sethk> danieleboyo, the message might also be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[05:52] <weirdo> anyone wanna check for me?
[05:52] <rukuartic> Can anyone point me to an indepth/comprehensive guide on filepermissions? Or even better--if a few people could just sit and talk with me a moment through prvmsgs, that would be awesome.
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, if you don't find anything, with the partition not mounted, run fsck.xxxx (fsck.ext3, fsck.ext2, whichever one first the partition's file system)
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, see if it asks you whether or not to fix things.
[05:53] <Sid> chuck: sympatico.ca
[05:53] <danieleboyo> sethk: umm dmesg is really long
[05:53] <dr_willis> rukuartic,  theres a great many beginner linxu guides out there ya should read/bookmark. (google for them) and check out the tldp.org site and its guides
[05:53] <ad0le> man, really messed up my sound... added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?
[05:53] <sethk> danieleboyo, try something like   dmesg | grep -i mount
[05:54] <Sid> chuck: and chuck, yeah... I don't know whether or not your SIS card has drivers in Ubuntu. And, naturally, the 3D desktop requires 3D drivers, I'm afraid.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: The man pages for chmod and chown will also be helpful.
[05:55] <gxmame> algum aki poderia me ajudar :)
[05:55] <sethk> !es
[05:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:55] <sethk> it's not exactly spanish, but that's as close as I could come  :)
[05:55] <JoseStefan> if they fix the xserver-xorg-core problem, Where would be the 1st place to know ?
[05:55] <sethk> is that port?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> sethk: I think it's Portugese...
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> !pt
[05:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:55] <chuck> hmm, what's aiglx?  it seems to have a set of dri kernel modules
[05:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, right
[05:56] <danieleboyo> sethk: itsays... Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-rwauto" or missing value
[05:56] <sethk> danieleboyo, ok
[05:56] <sethk> danieleboyo, I think it is supposed to be errors=remount,rwauto
[05:56] <sethk> let me check
[05:57] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: Well... actually I've been looking. I've read a few articles, but I'm having a tad of trouble. For example, I've added a test user (no sshd, don't worry :P) and I'm trying to figure out why when /home/test is rwxr-x--- I can't read it (yes I'm part of the test group)
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, no,
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, probably noauto
[05:57] <bj_> Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, change it to errors=remount,noauto
[05:57] <danieleboyo> in fstab?
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, but that won't mount it
[05:57] <redsoxfan90> were can i paste something
[05:57] <sethk> danieleboyo, yes, in fstab, take out the noauto altogether
[05:58] <rukuartic> bj_: so you know, i've had that problem too :P
[05:58] <rukuartic> !paste
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, rwauto isn't a correct option, at least according to the docs
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, possibly it should be errors=remount,rw,auto
[05:58] <bj_> rukuartic: did you get it fixed?
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: Do the files in the folder have matching permissions?  What filesystem?
[05:58] <danieleboyo> maybe..
[05:58] <danieleboyo> ill try them
[05:58] <rukuartic> bj_: nope P wish I did...
[05:58] <sethk> danieleboyo, but rw and auto are defaults, so you can take them out
[05:58] <Sid> chuck: aiglx is an alternative to xgl; it's basically another 3D desktop deal
[05:58] <Sid> chuck: ( I think)
[05:58] <redsoxfan90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362
[05:59] <redsoxfan90> can someone please tell me my problem in there
[05:59] <wweasel> Does anyone here use the thing at www.fs-driver.com to read/write ext3 under windows? Do you know if it has stable write support for ext3?
[05:59] <sexualpotatoes> has ati 3d accel been fixed in 6.06?
[05:59] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: ext3 I'm pretty sure. there's only one visible file in the directory, and its 770
[05:59] <verbose> dumb question, but what is the package with the kernel source tree called?
[05:59] <redsoxfan90> me?
[06:00] <rummik> ok, this prolly sounds stupid, but i just updated xorg and it isn't working anymore
[06:00] <Plutarch> I'M GAY.
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> fantastic
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> verbose: linux-source (or linux-source-$version)
[06:00] <Plutarch> YEAH, IT'S GREAT, ISN'T IT?
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> it depends...
[06:00] <redsoxfan90> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21362\
[06:00] <McJerry> redsoxfan90 first glimpse looks like you need to resolve your dependencies
[06:00] <redsoxfan90> ok mc
[06:00] <sexualpotatoes> lesbian?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Plutarch: Please don't spam the channel with that sort of thing.
[06:00] <Plutarch> DOES IT DEPEND ON WHETHER YOU'RE A SEXUAL POTATO?
[06:01] <Plutarch> Okay, no problem.
[06:01] <sexualpotatoes> it depends on whether you are male or female lol
[06:01] <IcemanV9> redsoxfan90: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:01] <Plutarch> I have to watch the Simpsons
[06:01] <Plutarch> On my new Dell monitor
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: So it says you don't have permissions to see that then?  Is this in Gnome, cli, or both?  (Like, will 'cat filename' work even if Nautilus won't?)
[06:01] <Plutarch> 24", baby.
[06:01] <rummik> how do i downgrade to my previous xorg?
[06:02] <verbose> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:02] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: mine is only 19" but my dell ultrasharp has been great.
[06:02] <i3dIn> rummik: that could be painful task to do
[06:02] <First|Bleh> although i wouldn't buy anything else from them
[06:03] <Plutarch> Sweet.
[06:03] <Plutarch> Why?
[06:03] <bimberi> !xorgbug > rummik
[06:03] <Plutarch> This 24" is insanely awesome.
[06:03] <oconnore> I'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?
[06:03] <First|Bleh> exploding laptops and horrible tech support ring a bell?
[06:03] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: I'm actually just working in bash... I try cd /home/test and I get "permission denied". let me try nautilus really quick.
[06:03] <rummik> i2dIn: well, what should i do then? xorg is borked...
[06:03] <upgrdman> 6.06 is the latest version, right?
[06:03] <Plutarch> Does their one true treasure line ring a bell?
[06:03] <First|Bleh> 6.06-1
[06:03] <rummik> *i3dIn
[06:03] <Plutarch> A treasure line as in the monitors they have for sale.
[06:04] <wweasel> Question: How safe is NTFS write support?
[06:04] <i3dIn> rummik: it will only break more dependencies if you downgrade
[06:04] <bimberi> rummik: look for a /msg from ubotu
[06:04] <Plutarch> Frankly, their monitors kick ass.
[06:04] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: yes..i said the monitor was great.
[06:04] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[06:04] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[06:04] <First|Bleh> did you not read that?
[06:04] <Plutarch> Obviously not.
[06:04] <Plutarch> My bad.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> First|Bleh: (I think it's actually .1, not -1, not that it matters terribly unless giving the ISO download URL)
[06:04] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: Update--Doesn't work in nautilus either.
[06:04] <Plutarch> But would that deter you from upgrading to a better monitor?
[06:04] <i3dIn> rummik: the way you can try is to apt-get to a specific version of xserver-xorg
[06:04] <jackie> hi, i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-20c0b7106f06055eed889efe3946f560c34a8b1a      to install 3d of geforce 5200, but  when i sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, it tells me "error: your x configuration has been altered. this script cannot automatically. if you bellieve that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11xorg.cong .
[06:04] <jackie> md5sum otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver section from nv to nvidia." what should i do???
[06:05] <rummik> how do i switch to ubotu's message in irssi?
[06:05] <wweasel> Guys? How safe is it to enable write support for NTFS partitions?
[06:05] <rummik> wait..nm
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> rukuartic: Can I see the ls -l of /home/test and groups rukuartic, just to see for myself?
[06:05] <rukuartic> wweasel: not very much.
[06:05] <bimberi> rummik: alt-2 (or 3 or 4 ...)
[06:05] <rukuartic> tonyyarusso: sure
[06:05] <JoseStefan> rummik, got an answer yet?
[06:05] <Plutarch> First|Bleh?
[06:05] <IcemanV9> wweasel: bad idea :/
[06:05] <adammichaelroach> jackie, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf go to Device where it says nv and change it to nvidia
[06:06] <JoseStefan> rummik, try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:06] <DarkMageZ> wweasel, currently we advise against it, tho i've heard good stuff about ntfs-3g if you are game enough to try it
[06:06] <sethk> jackie, you have to have left out part of that message
[06:06] <sethk> jackie, paste it into a pastebot if you can
[06:06] <wweasel> rukuartic, IcemanV9: that's what I always felt, but alot of people do it, so I wanted to be sure.
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> wweasel: I've never done it myself.  I've talked to people who have and say it's fine, but everyone seems to include the caveat about it.  I think I'd try it on an unimportant system only to find out maybe.
[06:06] <First|Bleh> Plutarch: No, because their monitors are generally solid. It's their other products that I can't have any faith in that I wouldn't buy.
[06:06] <sethk> tonyyarusso, don't do it
[06:06] <Plutarch> That's a rather smart approach to Dell.
[06:06] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it has known limitations, not just bugs
[06:07] <sexualpotatoes> not buying anything from dell is smarter
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Oh?  Haven't heard of those - what are they?
[06:07] <ad0le> anyone willing to help with my sound issue?
[06:07] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I believe related to extended the size of a file.
[06:07] <Plutarch> I disagree partially, sexualpotatoes
[06:07] <naa> smart approach to dell?
[06:07] <Plutarch> Yes.
[06:07] <sexualpotatoes> smart approach is to not buy from them
[06:07] <First|Bleh> my tower is all custom built..i wouldn't buy a PC from any mainstream producer.
[06:08] <Plutarch> Nah.
[06:08] <ad0le> added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, but it's not. Any ideas?
[06:08] <rummik> ouch, typing all the stuff ubotu sent is a pain...
[06:08] <First|Bleh> at least i know what hardware i'm getting
[06:08] <sexualpotatoes> smart approach to dell is an oxymoron
[06:08] <Plutarch> First|Bleh has his opinions right.
[06:08] <rummik> i shoulda checked to see if i had gpm installed...
[06:08] <oconnore> can someone help me?
[06:08] <Plutarch> Yes, sexualpotatoes, to you.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Ah.  Well, no real plans anyway, since I don't use my Windows any more and am probably just wiping it soon anyway.
[06:08] <IcemanV9> !offtopic
[06:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <sexualpotatoes> and sane people
[06:08] <Plutarch> What about insane people?
[06:08] <sethk> First|Bleh, you get cheap hardware and save money.  whether that make sense for you depends on your situation.
[06:08] <JoseStefan> rummik, you just need to undo the last update right?
[06:09] <sethk> oconnore, don't ask someone to help, ask a question
[06:09] <Plutarch> Do you mean to say that Dell hardware is cheap, sethk?
[06:09] <First|Bleh> sethk: right
[06:09] <sexualpotatoes> good thing we're not off topic right
[06:09] <rummik> JoseStefan: yeah, that's all
[06:09] <oconnore> sethk, I already did
[06:09] <JoseStefan> rummik, try:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:09] <cyphase> http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/21/space.tourist.ap/
[06:09] <oconnore> I'm trying to get hardware acceleration for my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx). I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto down to the letter, but the X server says says "no device found". Can anyone help?
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> why do i impulsively click all links that i see...
[06:10] <jackie> adammichaelroach, sethk ,thanks
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> why do you send that?
[06:10] <bj_> do sata drives need dma?
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> *did
[06:10] <First|Bleh> http://whoresofwarcraft.com
[06:10] <sethk> oconnore, I hadn't seen the question, sorry.
[06:10] <rummik> JoseStefan: that looks like it's working
[06:10] <sexualpotatoes> lmao
[06:10] <_tcc> O.O
[06:10] <oconnore> no problem
[06:10] <help_me> hey...
[06:10] <sethk> oconnore, which video hardware do you have?
[06:11] <Plutarch> HEY
[06:11] <help_me> kinda got a problem...
[06:11] <Plutarch> HELP ME
[06:11] <rummik> JoseStefan: will this be the one that was on the cd i used to install?
[06:11] <help_me> i forgot my login info lol
[06:11] <rukuartic> !help
[06:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:11] <bimberi> rummik: just be aware that that downgrades 2 versions
[06:11] <phargle> !caps
[06:11] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:11] <JoseStefan> rummik, should be the same yes
[06:11] <Plutarch> I'LL SHOUT
[06:11] <sexualpotatoes> how do you shout with a keyboard?
[06:11] <Plutarch> I CAN READ UPPERCASE
[06:11] <help_me> i can login to the recovery console...
[06:11] <sethk> help_me, boot the live cd or a rescue cd and find out
[06:11] <wweasel> Plutarch, no one wants to help you if you shout.
[06:11] <Plutarch> OH, THE LOGIC, SEXUALPOTATOES.
[06:11] <rummik> JoseStefan: thanks, it should work then ^_^
[06:11] <sethk> help_me, you can get the user name out of /etc/passwd
[06:11] <First|Bleh> help_me: as root type passwd usernamehere
[06:11] <JoseStefan> rummik, just remember to keep an eye open for a "newer" update
[06:11] <oconnore> sethk: ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
[06:11] <First|Bleh> and just reset your password
[06:12] <sexualpotatoes> you CAN'T SHOUT WITH A KEYBOARD YOU NEED VOCAL CORDS NOOB!!
[06:12] <Plutarch> I like his rhetoric.
[06:12] <Plutarch> He's hired.
[06:12] <help_me> i cantremember the username either tho...
[06:12] <rummik> JoseStefan: thanks, it works perfectly
[06:12] <help_me> lol
[06:12] <First|Bleh> ....
[06:12] <sethk> oconnore, I've dealt with nvidia more than ati, but I do have one box with an ati.  Are you certain that that particular ati is supported?
[06:12] <ad0le> added snd-oss, snd-sequencer to the modules and now nothing works. The alsa server is running, nothing is muted, and the system even thinks the sound is playing, bit it's not. Any ideas?
[06:12] <Plutarch> :)
[06:12] <help_me> i haven't logged into my linux box in AGES
[06:12] <help_me> lol
[06:12] <JoseStefan> rummik, i think i can find the previous last update on the http repositories
[06:13] <JoseStefan> that would be better
[06:13] <help_me> gah.. i think i am just gonna reformat...
[06:13] <help_me> lol
[06:13] <phargle> it would be better if he were still here
[06:13] <wweasel> I just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).
[06:13] <help_me> ty anyways...
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> IT"S FANTASMIC
[06:13] <Plutarch> AWESOME
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> INDEED
[06:13] <Plutarch> WHERE'S FIRST|BLEH?
[06:13] <sexualpotatoes> I DONT KNOW
[06:13] <FirstStrike> ....
[06:14] <Plutarch> INDEEDERINO.
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> LOAD NOISES
[06:14] <help_me> all i need to do now is find my cd lol
[06:14] <Plutarch> WHY DOES HE KEEP USING PERIODS?
[06:14] <help_me> gah
[06:14] <Plutarch> IS HE EMPLOYING EFFECTIVE WRITTEN SKILLS, OR LACK THEREOF?
[06:14] <ajmitch> sexualpotatoes, Plutarch: stop that now
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> HE IS HAVING ONE?
[06:14] <JoseStefan> i'm gonna write up some quick help on the xserver-xorg-core issue, gonna try and see if i can find the previous package on the ubuntu package website, brb
[06:14] <Plutarch> Yes, he's having one?
[06:14] <Plutarch> He had one just before.
[06:14] <sexualpotatoes> HE-SHE
[06:14] <Plutarch> Because he's the hoist with the moist
[06:14] <Plutarch> Uh, the host with the most
[06:14] <phargle> HAH YOU FORGOT THE CAPS
[06:15] <sexualpotatoes> YEAH NOOB
[06:15] <FirstStrike> finally
[06:15] <wweasel> lol
[06:15] <wweasel> no kick?
[06:15] <wweasel> a ban is useless without a good kick
[06:16] <oconnore> sethk: I don't know if it's supported, I do know that people have done it before. http://www.chaosreigns.com/adventures/entry.php?date=2002-10-13&num=01
[06:16] <sethk> oconnore, ok, so they didn't report the device not found error.
[06:16] <wweasel> well I'm gonna ask my question again since it was drowned out by the shouting conest.
[06:16] <wweasel> I just asked about NTFS write support...I have a similar but opposite question. I know ext2 write support is stable in Windows, but how good is ext3 at this point (I know in the past it was alpha, just as NTFS is in Linux now).
[06:16] <oconnore> yeah
[06:17] <FirstStrike> ext3 is fine
[06:17] <sethk> wweasel, I've not heard anything about it being a big problem, but then again I've only talked to a couple of people who have used it.
[06:17] <bimberi> wweasel: afaik ext3 is fine
[06:17] <FirstStrike> i've written about 100 gigs of files from windows to nix with no issues
[06:17] <rikai> Anyone have any idea why my friends 7.1 card doesnt recognize center or subwoofer?
[06:17] <JoseStefan> ok, anyone know the version number of the previous working xserver-xorg-core ?
[06:18] <IcemanV9> i wonder if fglrx supports your card, oconnore?
[06:18] <bimberi> JoseStefan: 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1
[06:18] <AnI> hey when i play real media it sounds super choppy on my xubuntu desktop
[06:18] <JoseStefan> bimberi, thanks
[06:19] <AnI> any one know how to fix it?
[06:19] <AnI> i even tried with realplayer installed
[06:19] <AnI> insteam of just gstreamer ugly
[06:19] <AnI> any idea?
[06:19] <bimberi> JoseStefan: np, btw '/msg ubotu xorgbug' :)
[06:20] <JoseStefan> bimberi, i was about to write such info :P guess someone was one step ahead of me
[06:20] <bimberi> !-xorgbug
[06:20] <ubotu> xorgbug has no aliases - added by bimberi on 2006-08-22 03:27:16
[06:20] <bimberi> ;)
[06:20] <ali1234> AnI: is it buffering? try increasing the buffer size...
[06:21] <wweasel> sethk, bimberi: From what I've read mounting ext3 read/write in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. Will this slowly bring down the performance of the ext3 partition?
[06:21] <AnI> ali im playing from harddisk
[06:21] <AnI> not steram
[06:21] <sethk> wweasel, I can't see why it would
[06:22] <wweasel> sethk: what does the journal do?
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, using the journal slows things down slightly, to gain reliability
[06:22] <johnnybezak> what does aterm do that other terminals don't
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, the journal contains info that lets the file system recover quickly from abnormal halts
[06:22] <sethk> wweasel, the journal info is redundent, and thus writing the journal has a small performance penalty
[06:23] <sethk> wweasel, If what you say is correct, I would be very careful to run fsck.ext3 after any abnormal shutdowns
[06:24] <wweasel> sethk: I am very sure that writing to ext3 in Windows doesn't make use of the journal. http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[06:24] <AnI> hey some times programs freeze in my xubuntu how do i terminate it forcefully?
[06:25] <sethk> wweasel, I have less faith in such things than you do.
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI: killall -9 processname
[06:25] <sethk> wweasel, it's probably correct, but those things are often out of date
[06:25] <AnI> where?
[06:25] <johnnybezak> are there any IM clients that are text based?
[06:25] <wweasel> sethk: Meaning?
[06:25] <_azrael__> Ani: or kill -9 pid
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI: In a terminal or command execution line.
[06:25] <_azrael__> jonnybezak: naim
[06:25] <AnI> from any?
[06:25] <_azrael__> AnI yeah.
[06:25] <AnI> like just ctrl alt F1?
[06:25] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about DNS
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <rixth> wweasel, ext3 is still kinda dodgy in Windows, I'd avoid it. Sometimes Windows says "The drive X: is not formatted, would you like to format it now?" a restart fixes it
[06:25] <AnI> then ps -f?
[06:26] <_azrael__> AnI:Yes, that'd be an appropriate place to run it.
[06:26] <AnI> then kill -9?
[06:26] <AnI> ok
[06:26] <AnI> thx
[06:26] <johnnybezak> _azrael_: does it support msn?
[06:26] <_azrael__> johnnybezak: onesec, let me check (I'm using it atm)
[06:26] <wweasel> rixth: Alright. Thanks :D
[06:26] <johnnybezak> _azrael_: cheers :D
[06:26] <CraZy675> I've destroyed my x11 i get the error "no screens found" when I try to startx
[06:26] <johnnybezak> anyone here use galeon?
[06:27] <rixth> johnlittle, tmsn is terminal MSN
[06:27] <rixth> er, that was foir johnnybezak
[06:27] <Darkprince> anybody know how to uninstall easyubuntu?
[06:27] <johnnybezak> rixth: you used it?
[06:28] <rixth> johnnybezak, I HAVE used it, but I use aMSN mostly.
[06:28] <johnnybezak> rixth: yeah im running an old mac and its slow as shit. so text based would be nice
[06:28] <_azrael__> johnnybezak: No MSN support with naim, but it does do aim and irc
[06:29] <johnnybezak> _azrael_: thnx
[06:29] <fdsd> usplash customization is broken on 6.06 right?
[06:29] <sethk> CraZy675, if you upgraded and caused this problem, there is a bad package that you can back out
[06:29] <sethk> CraZy675, if you did it by configuring, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:30] <CraZy675> sethk: i did dkpg-reconfig..... that didn't do anything
[06:31] <sethk> CraZy675, it can't do nothing.
[06:31] <sethk> CraZy675, what did it do that you misdescribed as nothing?
[06:32] <CraZy675> sorry it ran as usual, but after it was finished i still get the "no screens found" error
[06:32] <sethk> CraZy675, that's hardly nothing.  :)   did you load updates today?
[06:32] <cius> anyone else have their xorg borked by the update today?
[06:32] <sethk> cius, yes, a ton of people
[06:32] <cius> cripes to bloomin 'ell
[06:33] <johnnybezak> i've got a package blocking up apt, it just hangs when trying to do it, i can't even remove it. any one got any ideas on how to get rid of it?
[06:33] <cius> I knew I shouldn't have rebooted
[06:33] <CraZy675> sethk: before I broke it I was trying to get mp3s working
[06:33] <cius> do we have any idea what the problem with xorg is?
[06:34] <sethk> !xorgbug
[06:34] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc). Bug report - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57158
[06:34] <sethk> sorry, I had to scroll up quite a way to find that.
[06:34] <cius> awesome, thanks
[06:34] <crimsun> LP is down for another 3 hrs, btw.
[06:34] <CraZy675> launchpad is 503
[06:34] <Madpilot> crimsun, just realized that... :|
[06:35] <CraZy675> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[06:35] <CraZy675> i am told will fix it
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: How come?
[06:35] <CraZy675> can i chroot the mounted partition from live cd and try that?
[06:35] <sethk> CraZy675, that's another fix for the bad package update.  which is why I asked about whether you had updated that package today.
[06:35] <bimberi> !no xorgbugfix is <reply> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[06:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that, bimberi
[06:36] <sastraxi> how does one get onto the rescue interface on the latest installation CD?
[06:36] <AnI> msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[06:36] <sastraxi> the on-cd help mentions all you have to do is boot: rescue
[06:36] <CraZy675> sethk: yes i've update everything pretty much every day
[06:36] <sastraxi> but that gives me a "rescue: image not found" error
[06:36] <sethk> CraZy675, I never install an update that hasn't been out for a couple of days
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, It isn't just rescue.  might be linux rescue
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, check the help carefully
[06:37] <sastraxi> did exactly what the help said
[06:37] <lyy> anyone here familiar with memory?
[06:37] <TokenBad> ok based on this error anyone know whats wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21357
[06:37] <bimberi> gah, wrong factoid!
[06:37] <sethk> sastraxi, you are talking about the dapper live cd?
[06:37] <sethk> lyy, I used to be, but I've forgotten
[06:37] <sastraxi> yeah, 6.06 I think
[06:37] <sastraxi> the "Desktop" installation cd
[06:38] <lyy> sethk: is it true most ram now a days are lead free?
[06:38] <sethk> sastraxi, might be obsolete help, it certainly works with breezy
[06:38] <sastraxi> ahh, too bad
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, they must be to be sold in certain places.
[06:38] <CraZy675> ok I'm going to go try this, thanks for your support
[06:38] <sastraxi> I'll have to brainstorm the reasons for an ubuntu install to go missing on my own then
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, so I believe that, yes, they are
[06:38] <lyy> sethk: is the US one of those placles?
[06:38] <lyy> i hope it is.
[06:38] <sethk> lyy, no, last I checked it was europe, with the us behind on that requirement
[06:39] <lyy> I just bought some patriot memory.
[06:39] <lyy> and i want to return it if it's not lead free
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, memory is produced in huge quantities and most manufacturers won't produce something that can't be sold everywhere
[06:39] <lyy> good point
[06:39] <meathead_> anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, for a particular memory stick, you'll have to query the manufacturer
[06:39] <sethk> lyy, to be certain.
[06:40] <redsoxfan90-> mcjerry
[06:40] <sastraxi> does anyone believe that there might be an ubuntu-related reason to why my disk would magically stop booting one fine evening?
[06:40] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: it's stuffed
[06:40] <sastraxi> or is it likely the fact that it's an 8-year-old maxtor
[06:40] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: :)
[06:40] <sastraxi> you know
[06:40] <sastraxi> it was working fine like 10 minutes before
[06:40] <sastraxi> no strange noises
[06:40] <sastraxi> no write errors
[06:40] <johnnybezak> never had a drive die on you?
[06:40] <sastraxi> a good 30 megabytes per second
[06:40] <sastraxi> oh, I have
[06:41] <sastraxi> but it's usually full of bells and whistles
[06:41] <sastraxi> it doesn't let you forget that it's dying
[06:41] <sastraxi> I've never had the silent-but-deadly pulled on me
[06:41] <ali1234> agreed, i've never had a drive working fine, and then totally break one day
[06:41] <sethk> sastraxi, I would boot a cd and run the smart utilities and dump out the state of the drive, assuming it's an ide drive that supports S.M.A.R.T.
[06:41] <sethk> sastraxi, it's rare to get no warning, but not impossible.
[06:41] <sastraxi> sethk, good idea, but it's not SMART compatible
[06:42] <sethk> sastraxi, on occasion you can put a drive in the 'fridge for a couple of hours and get it to work for a while
[06:42] <johnnybezak> what was on the drive?
[06:42] <sastraxi> main ubuntu partition
[06:42] <sastraxi> fortunately my home is on a different drive
[06:42] <sastraxi> and fortunately it's a new install
[06:42] <sastraxi> I just wish I didn't have to go out and get a new hard drive is all
[06:42] <sethk> sastraxi, so all you've lost is time, and a bit of money, but no data
[06:43] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: migrating data for rosetta.
[06:43] <cius> sethk, thanks again for that ubotu reference
[06:43] <sastraxi> sethk: nice to see someone's looking on the bright side of life.
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I see.
[06:43] <sastraxi> I can imagine it would be a pain to lose data
[06:44] <fernando> hey can someone help me i am a newbie with linux and i wanted to mess with audacity but it is not working i was wondering if someone could help me
[06:44] <johnnybezak> fernando: whats the matter
[06:45] <sastraxi> ok, new question.
[06:45] <fernando> it is telling me thati have some sort of error  hold on ill tell you exactly what it says
[06:45] <johnnybezak> don't copy paste it though :)
[06:45] <sastraxi> now I've got a 40-gigabyte hard drive (the one my /home was on) and I want to install ubuntu onto this, keeping my data
[06:46] <sastraxi> is that possible?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> !paste
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:46] <johnnybezak> sastraxi: haha too tight to buy a new drive *shakes head* :)
[06:46] <sethk> sastraxi, if it isn't backed up, I wouldn't do it, but sure, it's possible
[06:46] <lyy> sethk: i'm freaking out man. hehe
[06:46] <lyy> i don't want lead poisoning
[06:46] <lyy> i use my computer alot
[06:46] <sastraxi> sethk: all it is, is a lot of windows applications that have been installed from the CD, messed around with to make them work under wine
[06:46] <fernando> there was an error nstalling the audio i/o layer and i will not be able to play or record audio
[06:46] <sastraxi> so once again all I'd lose is time
[06:47] <bhrobinson> hey. is there anyone that can help me with my Ubuntu? I rebooted and cannot get back into the GUI
[06:47] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, you're probably going to have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core
[06:47] <sastraxi> (EE) no devices detected, right
[06:47] <bhrobinson> sastraxi how do I do that?
[06:47] <sethk> lyy, I don't think you'll get lead poisoning, unless the thing literally melts down
[06:47] <bhrobinson> you got it
[06:47] <dibblego> I just installed 6.06.1/i386 and firefox is causing a segmentation fault - anything I can do to fix it?
[06:48] <Juhaz> lyy, then to be sure, don't eat the memory sticks
[06:48] <sastraxi> just a second, someone before told me how to
[06:48] <iceman> Anyone built a case mod
[06:48] <IcemanV9> what version of xserver-xorg-core is causing a problem? so i know to avoid it
[06:48] <sethk> IcemanV9, the most recent one
[06:49] <lyy> Juhaz: doesn't lead over time cause problems?
[06:49] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[06:49] <sethk> lyy, not unless you eat it
[06:49] <lyy> man i'm so stupid.
[06:50] <typhoid> is it possible to change my username?
[06:50] <bhrobinson> all I know is IRC from command prompt sucks
[06:50] <sethk> lyy, people worry about lead paint because kids eat the paint chips and the crumbling paint can get into food
[06:50] <sethk> typhoid, of course, but why?
[06:50] <IcemanV9> xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1 is the latest version?
[06:50] <s|k> my cpu is at 125 C
[06:50] <s|k> :/
[06:50] <docgnome> vmware created two network interfaces that i don't want... how can i remove them?
[06:50] <bhrobinson> sastraxi, thanks. let me try that and I will be back in 10 minutes
[06:50] <Generic> s|k, I've seen ones at 150+
[06:50] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, thank the person that told me that!
[06:50] <typhoid> sethk i mean, my linux username.. because I don't want to see 'typhoid' when i log in @ school
[06:50] <bj_> Hey all, flash is locking up firefox. when I hit back. Closing a tab is OK, but the back button locks the browser when any flash is being displayed. I looked around and I had 2 versions of flash installed, so I fixed that and now only have 1, but it still does it. The only relevant thing I changed was a new mobo/cpu. I went dual core, and everything seems to be working OK besides this
[06:51] <Generic> of course, that was for about 2 seconds
[06:51] <sastraxi> I was banging my head for hours
[06:51] <Generic> then they exploded
[06:51] <s|k> Generic: it's an athlon amd64
[06:51] <IcemanV9> typhoid: /nick <new nick>
[06:51] <juanca777_> hello everyone
[06:51] <s|k> Generic: it doesn't seem to be doing anything bad
[06:51] <swarm> hmm
[06:51] <Generic> Dude, open some vents in that case
[06:51] <juanca777_> how can i know what is the version of the compiler used for a given kernel?
[06:51] <typhoid> IcemanV9: thanks!
[06:51] <swarm> xgl+compiz is neat
[06:51] <swarm> very nice eyecandy
[06:51] <Generic> s|k, What speed is it?
[06:51] <s|k> 1800 mhz 3000+
[06:51] <typhoid> Icemanv9... that's an irc command, not linux bash
[06:51] <Generic> yeah, that's WAY too high
[06:51] <bhrobinson> sdzfsdf
[06:51] <bhrobinson> a
[06:51] <bhrobinson> sorry
[06:52] <s|k> Generic: take off the sides?
[06:52] <Generic> I have a 3800+ at 2.5Ghz
[06:52] <bhrobinson> what is causing that issue?
[06:52] <s|k> there are no vents
[06:52] <Generic> s|k, yeah, take off the side panel
[06:52] <Generic> that'll drop it down a bit
[06:52] <IcemanV9> typhoid: oh! ha. sorry.
[06:52] <s|k> Generic: I have a ton of fans in it
[06:52] <meathead_> anyone here who knows how to install torrentflux
[06:52] <Generic> s|k, if you have no vents, that won't make a difference
[06:52] <meathead_> I get this error:
[06:52] <meathead_> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '"', expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /var/www/tf/config.php on line 33
[06:52] <Generic> sudo apt-get install torrentflux?
[06:52] <Generic> meathead_, what's on line 33?
[06:53] <s|k> Generic: the vents are in the back and front, where the fans are
[06:53] <Generic> is one blowing and the other sucking?
[06:53] <s|k> Generic: yes
[06:53] <sethk> some people claim that removing the panels can make things run hotter, at least in critical areas, because the air flow is changed.  I don't buy that, personally.
[06:53] <Juhaz> lyy, the issue with lead in electronics is mostly that it can contaminate the soil and groundwater, etc. after it ends up in the landfills. not that it magically jumps from the computer into you
[06:53] <KrakensDen> I have a sound support question
[06:53] <Generic> might be the cabling is blocking air flow
[06:53] <KrakensDen> anyone feeling adventurous?
[06:53] <Generic> take the side panel of regardless
[06:53] <Generic> also, how old are the fans?
[06:54] <Generic> they may just not be very powerful
[06:54] <meathead_> Generic: $cfg["db_name"]  = "torrentflux"; // Name of the Database
[06:54] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, unfortunately someone right now is getting ready to go nuts on you for asking to ask a question :)
[06:54] <JoseStefan> meathead_ if that is PHP, that line looks invalid
[06:54] <Generic> meathead_, judging from that error, the quotation marks are throwing it off
[06:54] <sastraxi> what's up?
[06:54] <IcemanV9> !ask
[06:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <KrakensDen> well, when I put my machine into hibernate mode
[06:55] <KrakensDen> and it comes back up
[06:55] <KrakensDen> sound support dies
[06:55] <s|k> Generic: just bought the big one
[06:55] <Generic> I blame arts!
[06:55] <s|k> in the back
[06:55] <KrakensDen> I went to runlevel 1, unloaded the drivers and reloaded them
[06:55] <Generic> s|k, you probably have messy cabling
[06:55] <KrakensDen> still no luck
[06:55] <KrakensDen> nothing is muted
[06:55] <s|k> Generic: yeah there is a lot of cables
[06:55] <s|k> are*
[06:55] <KrakensDen> dmesg |grep ALSA gives nothing
[06:55] <meathead_> then what about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21364
[06:56] <Generic> s|k, I recommend you look into organizing your cabling
[06:56] <meathead_> the two lines before it work
[06:56] <Generic> buy some sleeving and what-not
[06:56] <KrakensDen> any takers?
[06:56] <Generic> then zip tie them together
[06:56] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, that's why I asked
[06:56] <docgnome> When I created some virtual machines with vmware it created two interfaces that I don't want. How can I remove them?
[06:56] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, I was wondering if there were any gurus in the house ;)
[06:56] <sastraxi> haha
[06:56] <cius> !xbugfix > cius
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <sastraxi> well I am no guru
[06:57] <cius> cripes
[06:57] <KrakensDen> bollocks
[06:57] <KrakensDen> I hate posting on the forums
[06:57] <cius> what was that ubotu msg again?
[06:57] <sastraxi> but i'd try grepping dmesg with alsa in small letters if you haven't already
[06:57] <sethk> !xorgbug
[06:57] <Generic> KrakensDen, did you check if arts had taken over?
[06:57] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[06:57] <Generic> try killing arts
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, I run GNOME
[06:57] <sethk> cius, xorgbug,
[06:57] <Generic> Ah
[06:57] <cius> sethk, you're the man
[06:57] <Generic> Nutters, i keep forgetting this is #ubuntu
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, and I went to runlevel 1 already
[06:57] <cius> !xorgbug > cius
[06:57] <KrakensDen> Generic, so everything has already gotten killed ;)
[06:57] <JoseStefan> meathead_, what editor are you using?
[06:57] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, what soundcard/driver?
[06:57] <vook> ok, I'm having strange issues.  I just did my bi-weekly (or so) apt-get dist-upgrade, which upgraded only a few x.org packages, and now X won't work at all.  I've downloaded and installed the latest nvidia packages.  The thing is, X doesn't work *at all*. Even the nv driver doesn't work.  X -configure gives me "No devices to configure, configuration failed"  Anyone???
[06:58] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, snd_hda_intel
[06:58] <sastraxi> and more importantly, what motherboard? a lot of them have broken ACPI
[06:58] <IcemanV9> add -i to grep; it'll ignores upper or lower cases
[06:58] <sastraxi> esp. in linux
[06:58] <Flannel> vook: you dist-upgrad bi-weekly?
[06:58] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, the support for my particular hardware kinda stinks
[06:58] <KrakensDen> the volume is really low
[06:58] <meathead_> JoseStefan: nano
[06:58] <KrakensDen> and the audio-in doesn't function
[06:58] <Generic> vook, apt-get upgrade?
[06:58] <JoseStefan> meathead_, got it
[06:58] <rgie> why i cant view pdf files?
[06:58] <JoseStefan> meathead_, line 33 is not the problem
[06:58] <KrakensDen> yeah, casing on the alsa doesn't matter
[06:59] <JoseStefan> meathead_, it's line 32, missing a quote
[06:59] <vook> Generic: eh, I always just do an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:59] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, ick.
[06:59] <JoseStefan> meathead_, after quack
[06:59] <rgie> i need help
[06:59] <sastraxi> um, let's see
[06:59] <Flannel> vook: anyway, an X-org package is broken at the moment
[06:59] <Flannel> !tell vook about xorgbugfix
[06:59] <sastraxi> this is a bit of a stretch, but:
[06:59] <meathead_> JoseStefan: scoooore! you get a cookie.
[07:00] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
[07:00] <KrakensDen> ebbeh
[07:00] <KrakensDen> I've been hoping not to have to mess with acpi :(
[07:00] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, thanks
[07:00] <progrock> I set up an ftp client where i can login and have access to my home directory.. is there a way to make links to other directories outside of my home folder?
[07:00] <KrakensDen> does it all look like magic to anyone else?
[07:01] <rgie> does anyone knows how can i view pdf files on my ubuntu?
[07:01] <KrakensDen> rgie, evince
[07:01] <vook> Flannel: ok, thanks, that's good to know.  I can deal with it for a while.  Thank goodness for BitchX, centericq, and w3m, and gpm, etc...
[07:01] <KrakensDen> rgie, or get adobe acrobat
[07:02] <KrakensDen> rgie, it runs on linux too ;)
[07:02] <wikijeff> How can I edit 'Places'?
[07:02] <Flannel> rgie: xpdf should be able to handle it (is it not installed by default?)
[07:02] <rgie> KrakensDen, apt-get?
[07:02] <IcemanV9> rgie: right-click on that file, select open with document viewer
[07:02] <JoseStefan> doesnt ubuntu have a pdf viewer on de default packages?
[07:02] <KrakensDen> I think so
[07:02] <KrakensDen> alt-f2 'evince'
[07:02] <progrock> can i mount something to 2 different places?
[07:02] <lyy> looks like ubuntu is kicking fedora's butt in the community size on freenode ;D
[07:02] <JoseStefan> mine views PDFs, but i dont know if installed something for that or it came included
[07:03] <KrakensDen>  I don't see it in the menus thought
[07:03] <KrakensDen> though
[07:03] <KrakensDen> that's bad
[07:03] <rgie> i mean on the browser it does not redirect to pdf
[07:03] <KrakensDen> ohh
[07:03] <KrakensDen> yeah
[07:03] <KrakensDen> install adobe acrobat
[07:03] <IcemanV9> evince is installed by default
[07:03] <KrakensDen> they have a browser plugin
[07:03] <lyy> ya
[07:03] <JoseStefan> i dont have browser plugin, i just download and dbl ckick
[07:03] <KrakensDen> is it in the add/remove applications list?
[07:03] <JoseStefan> click*
[07:03] <fernando> i am having a proble with audacity can anyone help me
[07:03] <rgie> yah i have evince installed but still cant
[07:03] <KrakensDen> rgie, applications->add remove
[07:04] <KrakensDen> rgie, make sure 'show commercial applications' is checked
[07:04] <JoseStefan> rgie, can you open files stored in your computer? i believe there is a sample PDF in examples
[07:04] <KrakensDen> rgie, search for 'adobe'
[07:04] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, he wants a browser plugin
[07:04] <rgie> ok ill check it
[07:04] <JoseStefan> KrakensDen, just wanted to confirm PDF support in general (for his current setup)
[07:05] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, evince is in the default install
[07:05] <vook> Flannel: hey, can you send that wget line again by chance?  It scrolled off before I had a chance to get it.
[07:05] <JoseStefan> hmm, just noticed there is no sample PDF in "Examples" i thought i had seen one
[07:05] <KrakensDen> actually adobe seems to get found without the 'show commercial applications' checkbox
[07:06] <rgie> i have already checked show comercial applications
[07:06] <Flannel> !tell vook about xorgbugfix
[07:06] <vook> thanks
[07:06] <meathead_> http://72.77.247.75/ someone wanna tell me what this means?
[07:06] <meathead_> I'm not very good with mysql
[07:06] <IcemanV9> there is no browser plugin for evince -- it just asks you what to do with this file (pdf)
[07:07] <JoseStefan> !tell JoseStefan about xorgbug
[07:07] <JoseStefan> meathead_, that URL does not respond
[07:07] <KrakensDen> gentoo has some great docs
[07:08] <haasteem> !upgrade
[07:08] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:08] <IcemanV9> JoseStefan: you can /msg ubotu xorgbug -- then you can ask more in query :)
[07:08] <JoseStefan> IcemanV9, i was testing the "tell" feature
[07:09] <PenguinOfDoom> Why isn't the kernel source package updated nearly as often as kernel images?
[07:09] <johnnybezak> anyone here use irssi>
[07:09] <johnnybezak> ?
[07:09] <KrakensDen> yup
[07:09] <KrakensDen> but I could never figure out how to close windows
[07:09] <Flannel>  /wc
[07:09] <johnnybezak> know a way to turn off the server messages of ppl levaing and joining?
[07:09] <ali1234> PenguinOfDoom: because we arn't supposed to compile our own kernels :(
[07:10] <KrakensDen> ali1234, a bad attitude, imho
[07:10] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: /set irc_conf_mode 1
[07:10] <GR4SS> error xorg-core
[07:10] <KrakensDen> ali1234, they should just try and make it easy if you want to, I don't know, switch to the vanilla 2.6 kernel
[07:10] <JoseStefan> most kernel images are slight modifications, and come from the same source, all you might see is a new diff file
[07:10] <Flannel> johnnybezak: From all channels?
[07:10] <johnnybezak> IcemanV9: hmm tried it, still getting -!- blah blah just quit
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu parts joins or something like that.
[07:11] <johnnybezak> Flannel: yeah
[07:11] <ali1234> KrakensDen: i don;t want a vanilla kernel, i want the ubuntu kernel, with this patch i've just written, wich makes my dvb card work, maybe
[07:11] <JoseStefan> johnnybezak, should be somewhere within the options of your client
[07:11] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: are u using xchat?
[07:11] <johnnybezak> using irssi
[07:11] <Flannel> johnnybezak: /ignore JOINS PARTS should do it
[07:12] <fernando> johnnybezak: i removed it and re--install it but still the same problem do you think is the way i have my sound setup
[07:12] <johnnybezak> fernando: whats the prob. can't you get sound
[07:12] <KrakensDen> ali1234, what did you write the patch against?
[07:12] <IcemanV9> johnnybezak: ah. that explains. dunno about irssi, only xchat/xchat-gnome
[07:12] <fernando> yeah
[07:12] <fernando> but it is telling me that i cant record
[07:13] <johnnybezak> Flannel: hmm i just got -!- gilan has joined, think it might be the caps?
[07:13] <johnnybezak> fernando: but can you hear sound?
[07:13] <lyy> i use irssi
[07:13] <rgie> why i cant view pdf files from browser, when i clicked the links it redirects me to a blank pages?
[07:13] <fernando> from my media i can
[07:13] <ali1234> KrakensDen: against? the patch only modifies two array indexes in one source file, which hasn't changed since 2.6.15 to the latest
[07:13] <lyy> johnnybezak: what you trying to do?
[07:14] <ardchoille> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[07:14] <KrakensDen> ali1234, ah, nevermind :P
[07:14] <IcemanV9> rgie: did it prompt you?
[07:14] <KrakensDen> I  can't believe I'm debugging my hardware vendor's code
[07:14] <KrakensDen> bloody hell
[07:14] <lyy> i just hate that
[07:14] <ali1234> tell me about it :(
[07:14] <IcemanV9> rgie: or asks you what to do with file?
[07:14] <rgie> IcemanV9, nope it doesnt give me an option
[07:14] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: send them a check ;)
[07:14] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, too late
[07:15] <lyy> debug it and then crack it
[07:15] <ardchoille> haha
[07:15] <rgie> IcemanV9, it redirects me to a blank page
[07:15] <lyy> and then reverse engineer it and give it for free
[07:15] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, if I figure it out and submit the modifications, figure I could get a check?
[07:15] <johnnybezak> lyy: get rid of those join leave messages
[07:15] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: Don't send them anything until they agree to pay
[07:15] <fernando> now it's telling me i have a problem installing audio
[07:15] <ardchoille> johnnybezak: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS  will do it, I use that myself
[07:16] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, you have experience debugging dsdt?
[07:16] <johnnybezak> ardchoille: just did it, so i'll wait and see. thnx :)
[07:16] <IcemanV9> rgie: hm. odd. it does that to me -- redirects me to a blank page, pops the dialog asking me what to do with it, then i click "Document Viewer" and evince starts up.
[07:17] <rgie> IcemanV9, yah but it doesnt giveme an option, what should i do to fix these
[07:17] <kingrayray> is xserver borked or something? i just updated from a fresh install and now X won't start
[07:18] <Elda> Evening everyone :)
[07:18] <KrakensDen> kingrayray, dpkg --configure xorg?
[07:18] <ardchoille> kingrayray: yes, the xorg update is borken
[07:18] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: that won't work
[07:18] <fernando> johnnybezak: now it is telling me i have an error initializing audio
[07:18] <IcemanV9> rgie: dunno. never happened to me before. if it did, then I would know the answer. let me see if I can find it.
[07:18] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, it's one of them packages
[07:18] <rgie> IcemanV9, ok tenks
[07:18] <ardchoille> xserver-xorg-core is the broken one
[07:18] <KrakensDen> ardchoille, thats the one I meant :P
[07:18] <kingrayray> how do i revert to the old one, ardchoille ?
[07:18] <n2k> anyone else having gnome-terminal with multiple tabs crap out on em?
[07:19] <Flannel> !tell kingrayray about xorgbugfix
[07:19] <ardchoille> !xorgbugfix > kingrayray
[07:19] <kingrayray> Flannel: thanks =)
[07:19] <kingrayray> lol
[07:19] <kingrayray> and ardchoille =P
[07:19] <vook> Flannel: thanks again, worked like a charm
[07:21] <Jenga> hey. has anybody here used openbox?
[07:22] <IcemanV9> rgie: edit > prefs -- downloads tab, click 'view & edit actions' in download actions section
[07:23] <rgie> IcemanV9, ill check it
[07:23] <rgie> IcemanV9, im here
[07:24] <KrakensDen> Jenga, yes
[07:24] <fernando> johnnybezark: so what do you think i shoul do about my audio because it is telling me error initializing audio
[07:24] <rgie> IcemanV9, whats shalli do next>?
[07:25] <Jenga> KrakensDen, how does it compare to Xfce?
[07:25] <johnnybezak> fernando: look in audacity and see if you can change your audio system, there is prolly a few different options to try there
[07:25] <ardchoille> Jenga: I use openbox as my window manager in gnome
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, well, it may be a bit of a shock
[07:25] <fernando> ok thanks
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it has a root window menu and dock support
[07:25] <Jenga> pretty bare eh?
[07:25] <ardchoille> Jenga: You used fluxbox?
[07:25] <KrakensDen> Jenga, and that's about it ;)
[07:25] <Jenga> no
[07:25] <Moodles> I'm curious, is there more games bundled with the ubuntu 5.01 install distro or the ubuntu 6.06 install distro (since there is only 1 cd for both install and live) ?
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, although it has a fairly cool feature where you can have dynamic menus
[07:26] <Jenga> haven't use flux. heard it's clunky
[07:26] <IcemanV9> rgie: just add PDF action - like open with evince or adobe reader
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, never really found a use for it though
[07:26] <carthik> Moodles, some games come with the desktop, some are in the repository
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it's very, very minimalist. Try it if you don't scare easy
[07:26] <KrakensDen> Jenga, right click gets you a menu, and download obconf too :)
[07:27] <carthik> Moodles, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/ for comprehensive list of games related packages
[07:27] <Jenga> I'm just looking for a way to stop hanging and crashing so much and I like a minimalist look
[07:27] <fernando> johnnybezak, no options are listed
[07:27] <KrakensDen> Jenga, it may be your hardware
[07:27] <ardchoille> Jenga: If you're going to use openbox, then I recommend installing obmenu, it provides a nice gui for editing the ob menus: http://obmenu.sourceforge.net/
[07:27] <rgie> IcemanV9, theres no add options here
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, linux is very intolerant of bad hardware
[07:28] <Jenga> Pretty sure it is the hardware but max memory is 256 and I have that already
[07:28] <johnnybezak> Jenga: flux is nice
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, give it a try, you might like it
[07:28] <Jenga> thanks. think I will now
[07:28] <KrakensDen> Jenga, but 'some configuration needed' will apply ;)
[07:29] <Jenga> of course
[07:29] <ardchoille> Jenga: If you don't like it, you can find a nice long list of other window managers at: http://xwinman.org
[07:29] <IcemanV9> rgie: omgoodness. your right. sheesh. let me see.
[07:29] <JoseStefan> i heard ubuntu-server is very minimalist
[07:29] <ardchoille> KrakensDen: "some assembly required" ? lol
[07:29] <Jenga> I need a gui
[07:29] <rgie> IcemanV9, *winks
[07:30] <trpr> don't we all have our favorites :) *pushes the WindowMaker*
[07:30] <carthik> JoseStefan, yeah. So?
[07:30] <ardchoille> trpr: That's another nice one :)
[07:30] <carthik> favorite WM discussions maybe more appropriate for #ubuntu-oftopic
[07:30] <carthik> offtopic I mean
[07:30] <ardchoille> true
[07:30] <Jenga> sure. sorry for the derail
[07:31] <Jenga> thank you people
[07:31] <msoul> okie, whenever I sudo ap.-get install fluxbox it installs 0.9.14
[07:31] <msoul> any idea why?
[07:31] <carthik> you're welcome Jenga - wasn't meant to ridicule or anything of that sort :)
[07:31] <Jenga> no worries
[07:31] <ardchoille> msoul: Because that's the highest version in the repos?
[07:32] <epitron> did anyone else upgrade their Xserver and have it stop working?
[07:32] <KrakensDen> yes
[07:32] <metaosp> I just updated the xorg package and reboot, the xwindow doesn't work anymore.
[07:32] <msoul> ardchoille: okie I just wanted to be sure, found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116759
[07:32] <IcemanV9> rgie: i don't know. sorry. :/
[07:32] <epitron> awesome :D
[07:32] <carthik> metaosp, whats the error message?
[07:32] <epitron> KrakensDen: good to know it's a common thing
[07:32] <msoul> should I grab the tarball and follow exactly what I found I here or?
[07:32] <KrakensDen> I don't know the ubotu command
[07:32] <ardchoille> epitron: yes, lots of folks
[07:32] <KrakensDen> !tell carthik xorgbugfix
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell carthik xorgbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <metaosp> device not found
[07:32] <KrakensDen> that should work
[07:32] <KrakensDen> arg
[07:33] <epitron> ardchoille: i wonder why they don't roll it back
[07:33] <carthik> KrakensDen, my xorg is fine, thank you :)
[07:33] <KrakensDen> er
[07:33] <KrakensDen> the other guy
[07:33] <metaosp> how can I roll it back?
[07:33] <epitron> KrakensDen: i need the bugfix thx :)
[07:33] <KrakensDen> epitron, wget http://archive.ubunt1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[07:33] <rxt> :-)
[07:33] <epitron> KrakensDen: ah.. thanks.. is that from the forums/
[07:33] <Flannel> !tell metaosp about xorgbugfix
[07:34] <KrakensDen> no idea
[07:34] <msoul> v1.0rc2 that's the latest version
[07:34] <linkslice> i'm trying to install netatalk but don't see it in the packages list...how do I add a list?
[07:34] <epitron> !tell me about xorgbugfix
[07:34] <KrakensDen> there is a different set of instructions if you use ppc or amd64 though
[07:34] <KrakensDen> want those?
[07:34] <rgie> IcemanV9, npz tenks anyways
[07:34] <ardchoille> msoul: Thanks for that link, nice info there
[07:34] <ubuntu> yo guys
[07:34] <tomasz27> R U guys having probs with XSERVER?
[07:34] <msoul> ardchoille: sure! so I could follow what's in the link I guess
[07:35] <carthik> !tell tomasz27 about xorgbugfix
[07:35] <epitron> KrakensDen: uhm... yes, i'm using amd64 actually
[07:35] <ardchoille> msoul: I'm going to do that tonight :)
[07:35] <tomasz27> I got it
[07:35] <Flannel> ajmitch: Think you could put something in the topic? ;)
[07:35] <ubuntu> Flannel: hi
[07:35] <msoul> ardchoille: I'll do that I just wanted to be sure
[07:35] <tomasz27> I restored to the prev version
[07:35] <IcemanV9> rgie: sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread -- restart fx ... last option that i can think of.
[07:35] <epitron> KrakensDen: i'm guessing it's just _amd64 instead of i386 right? :)
[07:35] <ardchoille> msoul: Yeah, from what I remember about it, that links provides good info on how to get it installed and tweaked.
[07:36] <KrakensDen> !tell epitron about xorgbugfix-amd64
[07:36] <Flannel> Howdy ubuntu
[07:36] <carthik> KrakensDen, use /msg ubotu <whatever>     to see if it works first
[07:36] <rgie> IcemanV9, it says already the newest version
[07:36] <Flannel> nah, if it doesn't work, you'll get a messgae here: as so
[07:37] <epitron> KrakensDen: it worked because you added "about" this time ;)
[07:37] <KrakensDen> carthik, thanks
[07:37] <Flannel> !tell KrakensDen about somethignelse
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about somethignelse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <IcemanV9> rgie: restart fx
[07:37] <epitron> KrakensDen: and yes, it was just _amd64 instead of _i386 \o/
[07:37] <ubuntu> Flannel: i'm doing good, how bout u/
[07:37] <ubuntu> IcemanV9:  what is fx for ?
[07:37] <msoul> ardchoille: :-) okie cause I did lotsa mistakes before :/
[07:37] <KrakensDen> epitron, I was just checking :)
[07:37] <msoul> Brb
[07:37] <Flannel> ubuntu: doing fine.  you have a question/problem/whatever?
[07:38] <rgie> IcemanV9, should i change directory?
[07:38] <ubuntu> Flannel: well actually i do
[07:38] <ubuntu> Flannel:  did u have problems setting up lilo on ubuntu?
[07:38] <ubuntu> i know default is grub
[07:39] <Flannel> ubuntu: ubuntu uses grub by default, if you want lilo you'll need to install from the alternate ISO, I'm not sure if the liveCD installer has an option
[07:39] <ubuntu> Flannel:  i did download it
[07:39] <IcemanV9> fx == firefox
[07:39] <epitron> why would you want lilo?!
[07:39] <epitron> that's so 1998
[07:39] <ubuntu> IcemanV9: ty
[07:39] <IcemanV9> rgie: for ??
[07:40] <ubuntu> epitron: sure it is , but was working on it
[07:40] <epitron> weird
[07:40] <ubuntu> epitron: i'm trying to dual boot
[07:40] <rgie> IcemanV9, start fx? it says command not found
[07:40] <ubuntu> let see how it goes
[07:40] <ubuntu> rgie: try firefox
[07:40] <Flannel> ubuntu: you need to do an expert install to get to the option, if I remember correctly
[07:40] <ubuntu> or mozilla-firefox
[07:41] <IcemanV9> rgie: fx is abbr for firefox. sorry. just restart the browser.
[07:41] <ubuntu> Flannel: ok ty
[07:41] <siriusnova> the new Xorg update is broken
[07:41] <siriusnova> just in case anyone doesnt know :P
[07:41] <rgie> IcemanV9, oic
[07:42] <s|k> how can broken updates slip through?
[07:42] <ubuntu> any1 here uses dual boot, 2 linux os?
[07:42] <epitron> does anyone have access to set the topic?
[07:42] <epitron> it would be good if someone wrote that xorgfix thing in the topic :)
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, no real testing?
[07:42] <IcemanV9> rgie: lots of ppl use ff and firefox developers want us to use fx instead of ff. that's a short story.
[07:42] <ardchoille> I know I can use "apt-cache search fluxbox" to see if fluxbox is in the repos, but how do I see which version it is?
[07:42] <epitron> something like: "X IS BROKEN! type <whatever> to fix"
[07:42] <KrakensDen> hopefully that will get fixed soon though
[07:42] <s|k> KrakensDen: shouldn't be released then
[07:42] <Flannel> epitron: madpilot is coming to save the day ;)
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, too late
[07:42] <KrakensDen> s|k, you're right though
[07:42] <epitron> woo!
[07:43] <epitron> fix it up madpilot!
[07:43] <s|k> my slackware system never has this problem
[07:43] <s|k> :/
[07:43] <OsirisX11> hi! anyone know of an media player that will play my uncompressed rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.
[07:43] <ubuntu> slackware is nice
[07:43] <natural20> so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?
[07:43] <epitron> s|k: slackware also doesn't have the problem where you have all this awesome software that's easy to install \o/
[07:43] <Flannel> s|k: I'm sure policies will be reviewed because of this
[07:43] <ubuntu> i'm planning to install it, it uses lilo by default
[07:43] <ubuntu> :)
[07:43] <s|k> no gnome apps in slackware though
[07:43] <s|k> Flannel: it's not the first time
[07:43] <ubuntu> epitron:  it has slapt-get ;)
[07:43] <s|k> Flannel: happened right after dapper was released
[07:43] <fernando> johnnybezak, ok my audio work's for xmms but i have a problem iniitalising audio for audacity
[07:43] <epitron> ubuntu: haha, really?
[07:43] <ubuntu> epitron:  yes sitr
[07:43] <ardchoille> madewokherd: Thank you :)
[07:44] <ubuntu> sir*
[07:44] <s|k> epitron: yes, actually it does
[07:44] <s|k> epitron: it's called slackpkg
[07:44] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you :)
[07:44] <epitron> well SHUT MY MOUTH!
[07:44] <ubuntu> s|k:  i use slapt-get to download
[07:44] <triz0> http://70.35.202.230/cgi-bin/join.txt
[07:44] <epitron> yes, thank ya kindly madewokherd
[07:44] <epitron> and Madpilot
[07:44] <s|k> ubuntu: that too!
[07:44] <madewokherd> you're welcome
[07:44] <freddy> hello anyone could help me out with xgl?
[07:44] <s|k> no gnome aps
[07:44] <epitron> is that the real maddox?
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  have u dual booted it with ubuntu?
[07:45] <ardchoille> madewokherd: lol, sory about that
[07:45] <s|k> I wish I could use epiphany
[07:45] <madewokherd> :)
[07:45] <rgie> IcemanV9, still doesnt work, im gonna ask firefox about this
[07:45] <OsirisX11> freddy: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: I did for a while with a windows os
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  browser?
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: yes
[07:45] <Zerojakel> hello
[07:45] <ubuntu> s|k:  y cant u use it?
[07:45] <fernando> can anyone help me with audacity
[07:45] <s|k> ubuntu: slackware doesn't have any gnome series binaries
[07:45] <IcemanV9> rgie: hope u get it working.
[07:45] <OsirisX11> fernando: just ask.
[07:45] <ubuntu> i saw ephinay in synatpic
[07:45] <Papageno> Is there an easy way to change my user name?
[07:45] <ubuntu> let me chk
[07:46] <fernando> i have problems initialising my audio
[07:46] <ubuntu> Papageno: usermod command
[07:46] <s|k> ubuntu: slackware doesn't use synatpic
[07:46] <Zerojakel> i want configure my apt-build how i do?
[07:46] <rgie> IcemanV9, yah i need it ASAP to test my project... sob tenks for the oncern
[07:46] <ubuntu> s|k: oh ok ur on slackware right now, though u were on ubntu, sorry my error
[07:46] <Papageno> ubuntu: Does it have any reprecussions?
[07:46] <s|k> ubuntu: epiphany comes by default with ubuntu :)
[07:46] <OsirisX11> fernando: try "i cannot initialize audio in audacity, (error message)"
[07:47] <ubuntu> s|k: yes
[07:47] <Madpilot> s|k, Epiphany isn't installed by default, but it is available
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: it was installed by default for me
[07:47] <s|k> it's just not the default browser
[07:47] <ubuntu> Papageno:  just keep chk on setting for home folder , ownership :)
[07:47] <Madpilot> s|k, epiph the browser? You sure?
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: yep
[07:47] <fernando> i cannot initialize audio in audacity
[07:47] <freddy> firefox comes by default
[07:47] <Madpilot> odd
[07:47] <OsirisX11> how can I play my uncompressed mp3 rars as i download them? in windows i could just drop them in winamp, it would ignore the extension and just parse it as mp3. I want the same thing in linux.
[07:47] <s|k> Madpilot: comes with gnome, afaik
[07:47] <KrakensDen> s|k, no it isn't
[07:48] <IcemanV9> s|k: are you sure your on ubuntu?
[07:48] <freddy> it isnt
[07:48] <KrakensDen> s|k, this is a new install, it doesn't have it
[07:48] <s|k> KrakensDen: it came with mine
[07:48] <freddy> it doesnt come with gnome
[07:48] <KrakensDen> s|k, maybe on older versions
[07:48] <ubuntu> OsirisX11: download rar for linux
[07:48] <KrakensDen> but not with dapper
[07:48] <freddy> well then you have a REALLY old version of gnome running
[07:48] <s|k> er, well it came on breezy, and it was still there when I updated
[07:48] <s|k> epiphany > firefox so it should tbh
[07:48] <s|k> what about the help file viewer
[07:48] <s|k> isn't that epiphany?
[07:49] <Madpilot> s|k, no, it wasn't installed by default on Breezy either, I remember installing it.
[07:49] <freddy> no
[07:49] <freddy> its firefox
[07:49] <fernando> osirisXll: i cannot initialize audio in audacity (error message)
[07:49] <ubuntu> Madpilot: ur right
[07:49] <Madpilot> s|k, no, Yelp uses Firefox for rendering
[07:49] <s|k> okay well, it came by default with mine
[07:49] <s|k> because I never heard of epiphany before I tried ubuntu
[07:49] <s|k> it's not like I would have installed it
[07:49] <freddy> i used to come with ubuntu
[07:49] <IcemanV9> no it isn't installed by default on hoary, breezy or dapper.
[07:49] <freddy> but long time ago
[07:49] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, you mean gecko
[07:49] <haasteem> hi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?
[07:49] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, they all use gecko
[07:49] <KrakensDen> epiphany, firefox, mozilla/seamonkey
[07:49] <Madpilot> KrakensDen, ff/gecko/same thing ;)
[07:49] <natural20> so firefox won't load certain pages (yahoo groups, MyEbay).  the connection times out. any suggestions?
[07:49] <OsirisX11> i answered my own question: xmms and inside audio input options change it to look at content only
[07:50] <KrakensDen> Madpilot, not if you're making a distinction between that and epiphany :P
[07:50] <ali1234> natural20: i had that problem before
[07:50] <s|k> epiphany is very different from firefox
[07:50] <s|k> but yes it uses gecko
[07:50] <Madpilot> KrakensDen, well, they're all inferior to Opera, so I don't pay much attention :)
[07:50] <KrakensDen> it's just a shell for gecko
[07:50] <ubuntu> opera is nice too:)
[07:50] <freddy> noone on ubuntu-xgl...anyone could give me a hand with xgl?
[07:50] <KrakensDen> firefox is a XUL shell
[07:50] <freddy> its just a simple thing
[07:50] <ali1234> natural20: if firefox ever failed to load a page because of internet problems, it would never ever load that page again
[07:50] <KrakensDen> epiphany is a GTK one
[07:51] <KrakensDen> there's a demo to write one in pyGTK I've seen
[07:51] <ali1234> natural20: in the end i deleted my firefox profile and started again
[07:51] <KrakensDen> it's like 20 lines
[07:51] <KrakensDen> back, forward, address bar, it has everything
[07:51] <natural20> alil234 it doesn't load, ever, is that what you mean?
[07:51] <TooTallJones> hey folks
[07:51] <ali1234> natural20: yes, after internet came back up, the page still would not load
[07:51] <ubuntu> 1 more small query i have , any1 here uses console broswers like w3m or elinks?
[07:51] <fernando> i have an (error message) i cannot initialize audio in audacity.
[07:52] <ubuntu> fernando:  make sure it aint in use by other apps
[07:52] <ali1234> natural20: although it did not time out, it just loaded up a blank page
[07:52] <haasteem> hi, i want to start upgrading to breezy but upddate-manager gives a long list of packages that it can't upgrade. is this a big problem?
[07:52] <TooTallJones> looking for someone to help troubleshoot visontek xtasy ATI 9550.  3d screen savers lag and freeze up the comp overnight.  Just overall slow performance
[07:52] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  which one?
[07:52] <natural20> alil234 can you walk me through your solution? i am a complete linux noob
[07:53] <lupine_85> whew. 3 hours to sort out one wireless problem :D
[07:53] <Flannel> haasteem: make sure you re-install any large meta packages, like ubuntu-desktop, before upgrading
[07:53] <ubuntu> natural20: nice, me too :)
[07:53] <ubuntu> lupine_85:  wake up man, ur drooling over ur keyboard :o
[07:53] <natural20> ubuntu how is that possible, you're on here helping people!
[07:53] <haasteem> Flannel: but update-manager telling me it can't upgrade some packages is a result of that?
[07:54] <TooTallJones> i've tried fglrx, ati, and the ati drivers from the ati website.
[07:54] <ali1234> natural20: close firefox, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup, restart firefox
[07:54] <lupine_85> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
[07:54] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, lynx and links
[07:54] <ubuntu> natural20: i'm here to learn t:)
[07:54] <lupine_85> ow!
[07:54] <msoul> I'm installing fluxbox and I don't know why I get these msgs: gzip
[07:54] <ubuntu> if i can , i'll help
[07:54] <fernando> ubuntu: i closed everithing that uses sound but when i try to open audacity it tell's me i have an error initializing my audio
[07:54] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  aah kool
[07:54] <msoul> tarzeau: error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:54] <msoul> any idea?
[07:54] <gbauman> Hello... I'd like to get my console (not X) to use my laptop's native resolution, 1440x900. Does anyone know offhand what kernel parameters I need? Something like vga=xxx I think
[07:54] <natural20> alil234, do i need to do that in the directory firefox is in? do i need to use sudo?
[07:54] <lupine_85> fernando: did you kill the audio daemon as well (arts for kde; esd for gnome)
[07:55] <ali1234> no, and no
[07:55] <TooTallJones> anyone want to help me troubleshoot this graphics card? =(
[07:56] <ubuntu> KrakensDen: try elink if u use console too :)
[07:56] <fernando> lupine_85: how do i do that
[07:56] <ubuntu> nice small app
[07:56] <msoul> E: couldn't find package fluxbox
[07:56] <ubuntu> e:?
[07:56] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, I mean elinks :P.
[07:56] <Flannel> e: is for error.  msoul do you have universe enabled?
[07:56] <ubuntu> KrakensDen:  lol
[07:56] <ubuntu> see i'm a new bie :(
[07:56] <ubuntu> that cant spell right
[07:56] <ubuntu> haha
[07:56] <msoul> Flannel: I'm not sure, how can I do that?
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell msoul about universe
[07:57] <docgnome> I'm trying to set up my ubuntu box to do nat and internet sharing from my modem connection (ppp0) and my local network (eth0) I'm using guarddog and guidedog but guidedog doesn't seem to be doing any good. When I tell guidedog to enable routing and enable ip masquerade, it dosn't seem to change anything.
[07:58] <ubuntu> i dont like guard dog , never worked here :(
[07:58] <ubuntu> firestarter :)
[07:58] <docgnome> i can't get firestarter to work for me either :-\
[07:58] <msoul> Flannel: I even tried to install fluxbox (tarball) yet I failed tar: error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:58] <ubuntu> docgnome: ouch :(
[07:58] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: did you try xorg driver for ati card? 3d does work on my lowly laptop ati card -- mobility m6 ly
[07:58] <Flannel> msoul: fluxbox is in the repositories, no reason not to use that one
[07:59] <TooTallJones> Yeah I did
[07:59] <TooTallJones> none of them seem to change anything
[07:59] <shmho> Hello
[07:59] <docgnome> ubuntu: ... i lied. it just worked. like magic
[07:59] <docgnome> woot!
[07:59] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?
[08:00] <shmho> Is there anyone has a problem with xserver-xorg-core now? I have updated my kubuntu than it doesn't work
[08:00] <lupine_85> Anyone with a spare 5 minutes, a bit of developer experience (only a bit :D) and a small bit of know-how fancy reviewing an 18K .odt file for me?
[08:00] <|thunder> so did everyone get a notification of a xserver update earlier ?
[08:00] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: glxinfo |grep direct -- if it says yes, then you have 3d accler
[08:00] <Flannel> shmho: check the topic
[08:00] <lupine_85> it's a few initial thoughs on an automatic wlan config utility
[08:00] <lupine_85> thoughts*
[08:00] <Madpilot> |thunder, yes
[08:00] <ubuntu> docgnome: lol
[08:00] <lupine_85> that I'm planning on writing
[08:00] <shmho> Flannel: thanks :)
[08:00] <TooTallJones> direct rendering: No
[08:00] <TooTallJones> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:00] <ubuntu> msoul:  y not use blackbox?
[08:01] <jamin> can someone help me with skype
[08:01] <jamin> http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[08:01] <|thunder> that update busted x for me, says
[08:01] <|thunder> i had to reinstall
[08:01] <Flannel> !tell jamin about skype
[08:01] <jamin> which on is ubuntu? debian correct
[08:01] <bhrobinson> can anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?
[08:01] <Flannel> |thunder: no, just downgrade, check the topic
[08:01] <heavydrinker> can we curse in this channel?
[08:01] <lupine_85> only quietly ;)
[08:01] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: ah. it is not supported then. i don't know what to say more. never heard of your card, tho.
[08:01] <heavydrinker> darn
[08:01] <msoul> ubuntu: What are the differents?
[08:01] <TooTallJones> hm
[08:02] <lupine_85> oh, poop
[08:02] <ubuntu> msoul: just a bit give it a try sudo apt-get install blackbox
[08:02] <|thunder> ahh. thanks Flannel didnt see that
[08:02] <bhrobinson> can anyone tell me what the deal is with xserver-xorg-core not allowing me to open XServer?
[08:02] <s|k> okay
[08:02] <lupine_85> a ubuntu developer messed up
[08:02] <s|k> I just started my computer
[08:02] <msoul> ubuntu do you have a screenshot?
[08:02] <Flannel> bhrobinson: check the topic for the fix
[08:02] <shmho> bhrobinson: topic!
[08:02] <s|k> and it says the cpu temp is 127 c
[08:02] <s|k> is that even possible?
[08:02] <IcemanV9> TooTallJones: try to post it in ubuntuforums to see if anyone can help ya
[08:03] <bhrobinson> already fixed but downgrading...
[08:03] <shmho> bhrobinson: all the guys have that problem now. :) including me
[08:03] <DarkMageZ> s|k, celcius or F?
[08:03] <|thunder> lupine_85, no way. is it gonna ask me again ?
[08:03] <ubuntu> msoul: not at moment , google it
[08:03] <TooTallJones> alright, thanks IcemanV9
[08:03] <msoul> k
[08:03] <bhrobinson> I am just wondering how to keep people from trying to install the auto update
[08:03] <|thunder> i mean, if I do a dist-upgrade right now will it bust x again ?
[08:03] <Flannel> bhrobinson: you could pin the package temporarily
[08:03] <ubuntu> brb
[08:03] <s|k> DarkMageZ: c
[08:04] <DarkMageZ> s|k, it's impossible in celcius cause the max ANY cpu can handle is 120
[08:04] <heavydrinker> by next month i'd like to have rhythmbox playing non-open source file types
[08:04] <bhrobinson> Flannel: I have not done that before... should I bother, or can I assume it will be resolved quickly?
[08:04] <drshasta19> hey
[08:04] <drshasta19> i need help
[08:04] <otroean> Just installed dapper on ASUS W1V laptop with ATI x700. When xserver starts the screens turn blank when I use ati driver. No error message...
[08:04] <s|k> okay so motherboard monitor doesn't work well with amd64?
[08:04] <drshasta19> i have this big message
[08:04] <heavydrinker> streaming OGG stations kinda suck
[08:04] <drshasta19> that goes on for 12 min at every boot
[08:04] <msoul> ubuntu: and you think I can set a theme/transparency just like fluxbox
[08:04] <drshasta19> Buffer I/O error on device dm-0
[08:04] <Flannel> bhrobinson: should be resolved tomorrow
[08:04] <bhrobinson> thanks...
[08:04] <bhrobinson> one more question...
[08:05] <drshasta19> if naybody has any idea...
[08:05] <drshasta19> thanks in advance
[08:05] <ubuntu> msoul: not sure, i use xfce
[08:05] <msoul> k
[08:05] <DarkMageZ> heavydrinker, checkout the restrictedformats page @ wiki.ubuntu.com it will help you add the right codecs to let you play mp3 streams :)
[08:05] <Flannel> drshasta19: I had that error before, it was a bad HD.  Not saying yours is bad necessarily.  check the cable etc too.
[08:05] <bhrobinson> I finally have given up on my video card, but wonder if anyone can help. I have an AGP and a PCI Nvidia 5200 dual head cards
[08:05] <drshasta19> Flannel i have a laptop
[08:05] <drshasta19> Flannel i did fsck and did not find anything
[08:05] <bhrobinson> if I try to use those both, GDM will not start.
[08:06] <bhrobinson> I finally pulled the AGP and put in an old Matrox 450
[08:06] <msoul> Flannel: is there a way to upgrade that btw? to the latest version
[08:06] <bhrobinson> any ideas though?
[08:06] <Flannel> msoul: upgrade what?
[08:06] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  try kdm ;)
[08:06] <Mkquist> heavydrinker-no mp3?
[08:06] <drshasta19> so Flannel any way i could fix that?
[08:06] <Flannel> msoul: oh, fluxbox.  Short of compiling it yourself? no.
[08:06] <Mkquist> nm
[08:06] <Mkquist> someone already got it for ya
[08:06] <bhrobinson> lol... in jest I am sure, but do you think it would make a difference?
[08:07] <Flannel> drshasta19: no idea.  Like I said, when I had the problem it was a hardware problem.  That doesn't mean yours is though.
[08:07] <heavydrinker> RealPlayer under GNOME seems to be semi-weak
[08:07] <ubuntu> bhrobinson: lol, worth a shot , heh
[08:07] <drshasta19> Flannel ok thanks
[08:07] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: thanks... I will try that. All I need to do is run kdm from the command, right?
[08:07] <heavydrinker> i've been using linux for nearly 4 days..  how long 'til i'm a power user?
[08:07] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  sudo apt-get install kdm
[08:08] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: I think I already have it installed, just not the default
[08:08] <sastraxi> heavydrinker, I'd give it at least until you've considered switching back to windows about 3 times
[08:08] <ubuntu> bhrobinson: then try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:08] <ubuntu> set kdm as ur default,, reboot , cross ur fingers
[08:08] <ubuntu> ;)
[08:08] <drshasta19> a+
[08:09] <sastraxi> bhrobinson, still a problem?
[08:09] <fernando> lupine_85, ok it is telling me error while openig sound device. please check the output device setting and the project sample rate
[08:09] <bhrobinson> sastraxi, no I am back in the gui, but I pulled all my video cards as that was close to the issue I was having last night... that is what took so long
[08:10] <ubuntu> bhrobinson:  good luck though, hope it helps
[08:10] <asabil> hello all
[08:10] <bhrobinson> ubuntu: thanks...
[08:11] <asabil> I have some troubles with vmware-player
[08:11] <ubuntu> yw
[08:11] <fernando> devios can you help me i have some problems with audacity
[08:11] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:11] <asabil> this is the problem
[08:12] <asabil> can someone help me out please ?
[08:13] <ubuntu> any consoel based cd players for ubuntu?
[08:13] <KrakensDen> ubuntu, apt-get whatever-you-used-to-use?
[08:13] <heavydrinker> i expect to be able to play .AVI files within two years, if not...  i'm out of here
[08:14] <ubuntu> KrakensDen: i dont have 1 :p
[08:14] <MorphDK> ubuntu, mcdp
[08:14] <KrakensDen> heavydrinker, you can't? I can
[08:14] <sastraxi> heavydrinker, look up easyubuntu if you haven't already
[08:14] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ty
[08:14] <asabil> anyone please ?
[08:14] <sastraxi> that's where you get all the fancy win32 codecs and flash plugins you may be looking for
[08:14] <MorphDK> ubuntu, or WorkBone
[08:14] <DevGet> if a script is started by the www-data user, can I think about that the script over httpd then?
[08:14] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ok ty will chk it out
[08:14] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?
[08:15] <DevGet> the script has www.data as owner too
[08:15] <noiesmo> heavydrinker, check this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[08:15] <shmho> :) my Kubuntu is now works. thanks all.
[08:15] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:15] <asabil> can someone look at this please?
[08:15] <KrakensDen> ARGH
[08:15] <odat> hi everyone
[08:15] <KrakensDen> wtf
[08:15] <KrakensDen> nonononono
[08:15] <KrakensDen> why is my sound working?
[08:15] <sastraxi> hahaha
[08:15] <KrakensDen> no
[08:15] <KrakensDen> what the hell
[08:16] <asabil> KrakensDen, yesyesyesyes
[08:16] <shmho> aaronc: I can read that page hm
[08:16] <Kanpachi> hello, i'm using dapper, and suddenly nautilus won't show any thumbnails for videos, it did before, what can i do?
[08:16] <KrakensDen> no, it's BAD
[08:16] <KrakensDen> because I don't know why it works :(
[08:16] <ubuntu> lol
[08:16] <ubuntu> MorphDK: ty , it is working :)
[08:16] <asabil> kandinski, did you change znything in gconf ?
[08:16] <KrakensDen> and I just wasted an hour of my life looking up ydata on acpi assembl
[08:16] <KrakensDen> s/assembl/assembly
[08:16] <msoul> Flannel failed to start the X Server
[08:16] <asabil> oups
[08:16] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, sorry about that =/
[08:17] <msoul> after I did install fluxbox
[08:17] <asabil> Kanpachi, did you change znything in gconf ?
[08:17] <odat> anyone able to give some suggestions about an open source website project?
[08:17] <Kanpachi> not really
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, you know what's funny? The only help on my particular error message
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, looks to be this
[08:17] <KrakensDen> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1622/
[08:17] <Flannel> msoul: did it update your xserver package?   (probably - read the topic about how to fix that)
[08:17] <asabil> Kanpachi, what did you do then ?
[08:17] <weirdo> for some reason i cant seem to cd to /home/usrname/ anymore
[08:17] <msoul> Flannel: Yeah I did update
[08:17] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, which is basically my laptop's DSDT
[08:17] <asabil> can someone help me out with vmware ?
[08:17] <Flannel> odat: you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <Kanpachi> i had previews for old videos, and i deleted my .thumbnails dir cuz i d/led new videos and it won't show previews of them
[08:18] <meathead_> why is it I can load pages from apache2 with localhost in firefox, but not with my IP from another computer?
[08:18] <sethk> odat, what project?
[08:18] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, wow
[08:18] <msoul> k
[08:18] <msoul> brb
[08:18] <sastraxi> so did you try the recompile bit?
[08:18] <KrakensDen> um
[08:18] <sastraxi> 16 errors, ah I see
[08:19] <KrakensDen> nope
[08:19] <sastraxi> sorry, I missed that completely
[08:19] <ubuntu> meathead_: firewalls?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> CFGD doesn't exist anywhere else in the file
[08:19] <KrakensDen> just in that one method
[08:19] <weirdo> does anyone know why i cant cd to the /home/user folder?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> so I'm not sure what it's supposed to reference
[08:19] <Kanpachi> what can i do now?
[08:19] <meathead_> ubuntu forwarded port 80
[08:19] <meathead_> no firefox
[08:19] <meathead_> err
[08:19] <meathead_> firewall
[08:19] <KrakensDen> and I grepped through the spec
[08:19] <KrakensDen> no mention of CFGD
[08:19] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, any way you can send me that file?
[08:19] <asabil> Kanpachi, are you able to play the new videos in totem ?
[08:19] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : permisson?
[08:19] <KrakensDen> but I've found it in random DSDT files
[08:19] <sastraxi> this is a cool mystery to me
[08:19] <Kanpachi> yes
[08:19] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, give me your email?
[08:19] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I apt-get a older package? and how do I find older packages of a deb?
[08:20] <KrakensDen> or a paste service
[08:20] <Kanpachi> now i don't have previews at all
[08:20] <Kanpachi> :(
[08:20] <Kanpachi> only pic previews
[08:20] <[Wiebel] > ubuntu: que?
[08:20] <odat> sethk, www.fossystems.com
[08:20] <asabil> anyone used to vmware player ?
[08:20] <dibblego> how do I remove a kernel?
[08:20] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : sorry was for that wierdo dude
[08:20] <DragoraN> hi
[08:20] <heavydrinker> well, copying and pasting did something, i don't know what...  gonna reboot and check it out i guess
[08:21] <dibblego> I want to remove the 2.6.15-26 kernel - X won't start with it
[08:21] <DragoraN> i get black images from motion ... why?
[08:21] <lyy> alright!
[08:21] <[Wiebel] > ubuntu: ah ok :)
[08:21] <Kanpachi> the strange thing is, i get picture previews
[08:21] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, krakensden.dyndns.org/dsdt.dsl
[08:21] <[Wiebel] > np
[08:21] <Kanpachi> but not video preivews
[08:21] <lyy> alright! my laptop now has 2 gigs of ram! hahah :D
[08:21] <sethk> odat, I'll join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <weirdo> ?
[08:21] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, and krakensden.dyndns.org/compile_log
[08:21] <meathead_> someone try http://72.77.247.75/center
[08:21] <natural20> so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error
[08:21] <ubuntu> [Wiebel] : ty
[08:21] <weirdo> oh permission?
[08:21] <weirdo> im trying to cd to my own dir
[08:22] <docgnome> where do i set a static ip address for my ethernet card so that it uses it at startup?
[08:22] <weirdo> but it wont let me
[08:22] <ubuntu> [Wierdo yep, chk owner ship
[08:22] <ubuntu> and other security settings
[08:22] <lyy> docgnome: /etc/hosts
[08:22] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://www.acpi.info/spec.htm <- spec
[08:22] <sethk> docgnome, network-admin (breezy) or NetworkAdmin( dapper) programs.  or do you mean, what text file?
[08:22] <docgnome> sethk: text file.
[08:23] <lyy> i was off base ?
[08:23] <lyy> sorry
[08:23] <mcrandello> hi does anyone know how to block modules from loading other than the blacklist file?
[08:23] <mcrandello> it doesn't seem to work: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/143849
[08:23] <weirdo> file owner is me
[08:23] <weirdo> and owner has r w e
[08:23] <sastraxi> KrakensDen, thanks
[08:23] <ubuntu> wierdo what error message u get?
[08:24] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/34167-need-help-fixing-buggy-acpi-dsdt-anyone-asl-skills-please-help.html <- that guy has CFGD defined
[08:24] <sethk> docgnome, /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <weirdo> if i try to cd to my usrname dir, it just cd's to /
[08:24] <asabil> anyone please?
[08:24] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, , but I just don't know enough to, well, do anything with confidence
[08:24] <docgnome> sethk: hrm. Is there a tutorial on fiddling with that file? I'm setting things in there, but i seem to have done it incorrectly
[08:24] <weirdo> if i try to cp some stuff from my usrname dir, i get ommitting directory
[08:25] <ubuntu> wierdo try this, login as that user type cd $HOME
[08:25] <Flannel> weirdo: does your  username dir still exist?
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, I think there is, but I don't have the url at the moment
[08:25] <msoul> Flannel: error not found
[08:25] <docgnome> sethk: right.
[08:25] <weirdo> nothing still
[08:25] <weirdo> im still at dir /
[08:25] <weirdo> i am logged in as that user
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, best thing to do is to copy the file, make changes with the gui, and see what changes in the file
[08:25] <Flannel> weirdo: cd /home/  and then ls, do you see your username?
[08:25] <mcrandello> type echo $HOME and let us know what it sayw
[08:25] <ubuntu> chk ur user setting then, what is home folder set too
[08:25] <sethk> docgnome, that's more accurate (at least potentially) than any doc is going to be
[08:25] <fdsd> Hey Guys, I have a dumb question how do I downgrade a package?
[08:26] <weirdo> yah it's in blue
[08:26] <Flannel> fdsd: you mean xorg?
[08:26] <heavydrinker> .pls files still wont play in rhythmbox, but i need to just lurk for while....
[08:26] <ubuntu> type echo $HOME
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, usplash
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, I need to install an older dep
[08:26] <weirdo> it gives me the same dir im trying to cd to
[08:26] <fdsd> Flannel, I need to look up what older packages exsist and install an older one
[08:26] <ubuntu> wierdo does the folder exist?
[08:26] <weirdo> i can get as far as cd'ing to /home only
[08:27] <dibblego> I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.15-26-386 then X refused to start (no screens found) so I rolled back the kernel (apt-get remove 2.6.15-26-386) but still X refuses to start - why?
[08:27] <weirdo> ya
[08:27] <Flannel> weirdo: and which subdirs are there?
[08:27] <sethk> dibblego, not a kernel problem
[08:27] <sethk> !xorgbug
[08:27] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[08:27] <Flannel> dibblego: read the topic
[08:27] <Flannel> or that
[08:27] <dibblego> sethk, sure, but why all of a sudden?
[08:27] <sethk> dibblego, bad package, released today
[08:27] <KrakensDen> sastraxi, http://djax.linuxbourg.ch/blog/?p=30&lp_lang_view=en <- check the first diff
[08:27] <dibblego> ah
[08:27] <weirdo> Desktop, Documents, Installer
[08:27] <Flannel> weirdo: thats not what should be in /home/
[08:28] <weirdo> er
[08:28] <sethk> dibblego, see topic, or what I did a few lines ago, to fix it
[08:28] <weirdo> it's /home/weirdo/Desktop... etc
[08:28] <dibblego> ok thanks
[08:28] <weirdo> i just cant cd to /weirdo
[08:28] <sastraxi> ok, this is VERY useful KrakensDen
[08:28] <Flannel>  /weirdo is wrong.  it's /home/weirdo or ~
[08:28] <sethk> weirdo, there likely isn't a /weirdo.  it will be /home/weirdo
[08:28] <ubuntu> it should be cd /home/wierdo
[08:28] <mcrandello> weirdo: you try "sudo chown -R weirdo /home/weirdo" yet?
[08:29] <weirdo> i mean /home/weirdo
[08:29] <dibblego> does that mean I should put the kernel back?
[08:29] <Andru1> how do i make multi-key keyboard shortcuts in Keyboard Shortcuts Gnome thing?
[08:29] <weirdo> what does chown do
[08:29] <mcrandello> assigns ownership
[08:29] <sethk> weirdo, if you aren't sure of your home directory name,  cd  (no arguments) goes to your home directory
[08:29] <mcrandello> in case the user number is messed up it can help
[08:29] <sethk> weirdo, stands for change owner
[08:29] <mcrandello> that happens to me sometimes when I switch distros
[08:30] <Andru1> so, anybody know how to assign multi-key keyboard shortcuts?
[08:30] <mcrandello> sometimes the primary group or user number isn't what's expected so it'll show up as yours in "ls -la" but you still don't have perms
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> gah, silly bugs!  glad i came here :0)
[08:30] <sethk> mcrandello, you can, instead, edit /etc/passwd and change the numerical equivalent of your user id
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> been chasing that for an hour thought it was something i did
[08:30] <ubuntu> well bbl guys
[08:30] <ubuntu> later all, tc
[08:31] <s|k> DarkMageZ: still around?
[08:31] <DarkMageZ> s|k, yup
[08:31] <mcrandello> sethk: I like to go with whatever the distro wants but that could work too
[08:31] <s|k> DarkMageZ: I tried two different software applications, and they both tell me my cpu temp is 260 Farenheit
[08:32] <JoseStefan> !paste
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:32] <Suplyndmnd> oh wow
[08:32] <sethk> mcrandello, the number is just a number.  some set the next user id to be 500, some 1000
[08:32] <DarkMageZ> s|k, can you translate that to 'c for me?
[08:32] <weirdo> thanks it's working now
[08:32] <s|k> DarkMageZ: 127 Celcius
[08:32] <sethk> mcrandello, as long as you don't change any of the user ids defined by the system (root, syslog, that sort of thing) changing an id does nothing significant
[08:33] <Suplyndmnd> Hello all... Linux noob here
[08:33] <asabil> can anyone help me out with vmware ?
[08:33] <asabil> can someone help out please?
[08:33] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt_preferences: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21367  ??
[08:33] <DarkMageZ> s|k, it's technically impossible. no chip for x86 or x64 available to the general market can handle that heat... the sensor might be faulty or the software
[08:34] <Andruk> how do i use multi-key keyboard shortcuts?
[08:34] <Andruk> well, how do i assign them?
[08:34] <s|k> DarkMageZ: it's a brand new board :/
[08:34] <natural20> so why won't firefox load certain pages?  i get the "The connection was reset" error
[08:34] <mcrandello> sethk: true true I'll maybe try it that way when I export my homedir over to the slackware box at home :)
[08:34] <s|k> DarkMageZ: the pc is hot to the touch
[08:34] <BeepAU> what should i use to play realmedia in ubuntu?
[08:34] <Suplyndmnd> Does Firefox run on Ubuntu?
[08:34] <natural20> sethk: i don't think i thanked you earlier, so thanks :)
[08:34] <Flannel> Suplyndmnd: yep, installed by default
[08:34] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer?
[08:34] <sethk> 260 F is 126.66 C
[08:34] <Suplyndmnd> oh, sweet... Thanks Flannel
[08:34] <asabil> anyone using vmware-player ?
[08:34] <DarkMageZ> s|k, hmm, i'd turn it off and get some help :S
[08:34] <sethk> natural20, not sure if I helped, but if I did, np
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, open up add/install programs and search for it
[08:35] <monkster> Suplyndmnd, sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:35] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- is there a better option?
[08:35] <bimberi> Suplyndmnd: yes, it's installed by default
[08:35] <heavydrinker> yeah, i got ralplayer working...  no idea how....
[08:35] <JoseStefan> s|k, probably a bad sensor, or the software invlolved doesnt know how to read the sensor
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, well, mplayer or VLC might play real media streams
[08:35] <mcrandello> anyone know why this would happen? modules blacklisted but still coming up after reboot http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/143849
[08:35] <Suplyndmnd> monkster, I am new :) So no idea what that means but i'll figure it out if it can work :)
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, but real is easy to set up, and it works much better under linux than windows :P
[08:35] <DarkMageZ> s|k, tho if it was really @ 126'c your processor would be fried :P
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, no spyware or anything
[08:35] <Suplyndmnd> 126c, jesus
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, it's a bit crippled though- you can't do playlists or anything
[08:35] <s|k> the computer seems to be running just fine
[08:35] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, try it, you might like it
[08:36] <s|k> it's not slow or anything
[08:36] <s|k> or causing any problems
[08:36] <dibblego> what command tells me the amount of memory in a machine?
[08:36] <DarkMageZ> s|k, then it has to be a bad sensor or software :P
[08:36] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt_preferences, it doesnt seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21367
[08:36] <heavydrinker> i'll figure out how to load codecs into the default media player..  after a while
[08:36] <s|k> :<
[08:36] <Flannel> !tell heavydrinker about codecs
[08:36] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- do i get 'realplayer' or 'RealPlayer 10'?
[08:36] <monkster> like the others said, it is installed by default, so you probably don't have to install it with that command
[08:36] <bimberi> dibblego: 'cat /proc/meminfo' and 'free' are 2
[08:37] <asabil> anyone using vmware-player ?
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, oh, I did this the other day...
[08:37] <dibblego> thanks
[08:37] <JoseStefan> dibblego, try "free"
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, are you using synaptic?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> dibblego, man free
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, one will give an error right off, the other one won't
[08:37] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, go with the working one :P
[08:37] <BeepAU> asabil -- i use it to run windows xp.
[08:37] <daraknor> !tell daraknor about codecs
[08:38] <asabil> BeepAU, could you help me please ?
[08:38] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- synaptic for what? i'm in add/remove applications
[08:38] <asabil> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tJfqXo77.html
[08:38] <asabil> this is my problem
[08:38] <KrakensDen> narf
[08:38] <KrakensDen> um
[08:38] <Andru1> does anybody know where i can find information about multi-key keyboard shortcuts
[08:38] <Andru1> ?
[08:38] <KrakensDen> gimme a sec
[08:38] <KrakensDen> Andru1, what do you want to know?
[08:38] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer 10
[08:38] <daraknor> Andru1, system menu, preferences, keyboard shortcuts is a great place to start
[08:39] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, realplayer is real v 8, realplayer 10 is v 10
[08:39] <asabil> Andru1, ala emacs ?
[08:39] <asabil> Andru1, C-X C-S ?
[08:39] <daraknor> I feel bad asking this, but I want to join #python on the freenode network and says I need to identify. I read /help and it doesn't have an apparently related command
[08:39] <BeepAU> asabil -- are you loading it through the menu?
[08:40] <Andru1> KrakensDen: How do i input multi-key keyboard shortcuts with Keyboard Shortcuts thing in gnome...?
[08:40] <JoseStefan> is this valid syntax for apt/preferences, it doesn't seem to be working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21368 ??
[08:40] <Flannel> daraknor: /msg nickserv help identify
[08:40] <Flannel> er, daraknor help register, not identify
[08:40] <Andru1> i am in the keyboard shortcuts thing
[08:40] <daraknor> Flannel, thanks, I did /register and it doesn't exist :/
[08:40] <mcrandello> Andru1: check out xmodmap and xev if you can't get what you want any other way
[08:41] <asabil> BeepAU, this is during the install :/
[08:41] <mcrandello> Andru1: promises to be complicated but you might be able to cobble together something
[08:42] <heavydrinker> the help file says i need to smoke more pot
[08:42] <Suplyndmnd> Does Ubuntu and Windows get along if on seperate drives?
[08:42] <KrakensDen> Andru1, what mcrandello said
[08:42] <Andru1> right, like, i want to have the win***s key +L be the logout shortcut, but it will only accept the first keyboard input it receives
[08:43] <Andru1> heavydrinker: are you sure you need to smoke pot?  I mean, alcohol is so much more refined...
[08:43] <BeepAU> asabil -- ever gone 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player', as that's all it took me to install.
[08:44] <mcrandello> Andru1 with xmodmap you can map a multikey combo to output something that looks like 1 key to the X server and then put that keycode into where you want it to trigger say logging out
[08:44] <BeepAU> asabil -- ?
[08:44] <mcrandello> at least I think
[08:44] <Andru1> okay
[08:44] <Suplyndmnd> liar, prove it
[08:44] <sethk> Suplyndmnd, just fine, as long as windows is on  primary master.  linux can be anywhere
[08:44] <asabil> BeepAU, which kernel do you use ?
[08:44] <vouzico> morning
[08:44] <NickGarvey> vouzico: hehe, 2:44 here
[08:44] <Suplyndmnd> It is on primary master.... and thank you
[08:45] <BeepAU> asabil -- i use the default ubuntu terminal.
[08:45] <Andru1> mcrandello: so i just need to search for a few xev and xmodmap tutorials/howtos and i should be able to figure it out
[08:45] <asabil> BeepAU, uname -r
[08:45] <Suplyndmnd> I promise to stop asking noob questions soon as i get this installed and figure some stuff out
[08:45] <BeepAU> asabil -- 2.6.15-23-386
[08:45] <mcrandello> Andru1: in theory, I was trying to get kde to use my Fn key that way and almost had it working the way I wanted then I reformatted due to an unrelated bug
[08:45] <asabil> BeepAU, you must be using the default kernel, thats why :)
[08:45] <asabil> I am out of luck
[08:46] <asabil> mine is  2.6.15-26-686
[08:46] <Andru1> mcrandello: okay, cool, thanks a lot!
[08:46] <mcrandello> Andru1: good luck with it, a lot of the old-school X stuff can seem confusing at first
[08:48] <BeepAU> KrakensDen -- thanks for your help.
[08:48] <rapier> anyone got an example iptables rule to forward a port to another machine while running nat?
[08:48] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, it worked? Awesome :P
[08:48] <KrakensDen> BeepAU, happy to help
[08:49] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:50] <heavydrinker> that easy ubuntu link was for 3 versions back
[08:51] <natural20> so you know yahoo groups? well i can't load 'em on and it has to be something in ubuntu.  neither firefox or epiphany will load the pages, but my XP comp on the same connection loads just fine.  any ideas?
[08:51] <heavydrinker> opea
[08:51] <heavydrinker> r*
[08:51] <natural20> opera run on breezy?
[08:52] <NickGarvey> natural20: it should
[08:53] <KrakensDen> natural20, download the deb, see if it works :)
[08:53] <JoseStefan> natural20, opera.com has downloads for breezy, i believe it's not on the ubuntu repositories
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !opera
[08:53] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:54] <ompaul> !info opera breezy
[08:54] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in breezy
[08:54] <NickGarvey> !info opera dapper
[08:54] <mcrandello> seriously I'm stumped does anyone know what overrides /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in ubuntu?
[08:54] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in dapper
[08:54] <JoseStefan> opera is on the canonical commercial repositories
[08:54] <JoseStefan> but that is for dapper
[08:54] <JoseStefan> fore breezy you must download from opera.com
[08:54] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: ah, didn't know that ):
[08:55] <NickGarvey> :)*
[08:55] <natural20> how do i want to download the opera breezy package?  tar.gz or the default?
[08:55] <Suplyndmnd> Looking at a step by step guide.... this has to be (it seems) the most straight forward program installation ever
[08:56] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: what are you instaling?
[08:56] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, archive.canonical.com
[08:56] <Suplyndmnd> Ubuntu, soon
[08:56] <altigen> hi~  i  have a question on ip_forward in ubuntu
[08:56] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: oh, excellent :)
[08:56] <elkbuntu> altigen, dont ask to ask, just ask
[08:56] <MorphDK> bah.. my xorg just stopped working after an apt-get upgrade
[08:57] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:57] <MorphDK> "No screens found"
[08:57] <Suplyndmnd> I'm moving stuff off a drive.  Will be installing in the morning as it's 3am
[08:57] <xfail> hmm
[08:57] <xfail> same thing
[08:57] <MorphDK> :/
[08:57] <elkbuntu> same to you, meathead, just ask the question...
[08:57] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, check the topic
[08:57] <JoseStefan> !tell MorphDK about xorgbug
[08:57] <KrakensDen> xfail, check the topic
[08:57] <MorphDK> oh.. sweet :)
[08:57] <xfail> hmm, how do I check it in sirc
[08:57] <altigen> i uncommented "net/ipv4/ip_forward=1" in /etc/sysctrl.conf, and after reboot, i got /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[08:57] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, may I send you a /msg?
[08:58] <poningru> !ubuntu
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:58] <poningru> err
[08:58] <poningru> !pdf
[08:58] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[08:58] <altigen> i have 2 subnet beside 2 network interfaces, 192.168.10.1 and 10.100.1.236
[08:58] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: yes
[08:58] <mtholdenss> well the 3d accelerator be standard in the nxt version of ubuntu cause i had trouble getting it working, i mean 3d switching from different desktops...
[08:58] <meathead> anyone here who knows have to use ubuntu center or torrentflux, I have a question regarding the setting of the download folder
[08:58] <xfail> KrakensDen, could you print a topic in a channel, not really used to sirc
[08:58] <MorphDK> KrakensDen, but why is it doing this? an error in the latest version?
[08:59] <heavydrinker> i need to download thubuntu, ubuntu for thieves
[08:59] <natural20> how do i open a debian package?
[08:59] <mtholdenss> meathead ask the question dont ask to ask it cause thats pointless
[08:59] <altigen> and i use a machine with ip 192.168.10.225 (and gw 192.168.10.1) to ping 10.100.1.127 failed
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> natural20, double clock on it?
[08:59] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, yup
[08:59] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: you need to be registered though (which you are not)
[08:59] <KrakensDen> !tell xfail about xorgbugfix
[08:59] <KrakensDen> MorphDK, bad testing :(
[08:59] <Suplyndmnd> oh
[08:59] <MorphDK> yeah.. too bad
[08:59] <KrakensDen> well, s/bad testing/no testing
[08:59] <heavydrinker> are we graded for spelling in this channel?
[08:59] <MorphDK> :)
[09:00] <ompaul> heavydrinker, on
[09:00] <natural20> BHSPitLappy, double click opens with Archive Manager, says it can't read the file.  (breezy)
[09:00] <KrakensDen> heavydrinker, you are always graded for spelling
[09:00] <altigen> but from 10.100.1.225 to 192.168.1.127 works~~
[09:00] <mtholdenss> anyone here use the 3d feature of ubuntu
[09:00] <daraknor> altigen, you can't send any 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x address over the internet routers
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, yes
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, you have a question? :)
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, if you want xgl, try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:00] <mtholdenss> did u have a lot of trouble setting it up?
[09:00] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, they're the real experts
[09:00] <KrakensDen> not really
[09:00] <altigen> daraknor: i just send them in a lan
[09:00] <mtholdenss> oh thanks much
[09:00] <KrakensDen> installed nvidia-glx
[09:01] <KrakensDen> and ran 1 (one) command to enable it
[09:01] <KrakensDen> I've heard ATI cards aren't as nice
[09:01] <altigen> it seems a "sigle-side" ip forward
[09:01] <KrakensDen> but intel cards are enabled by default
[09:01] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:01] <daraknor> altigen, so ping from 10.x works but from 192.x does not?  Are there VLANs, PPTP, VPN or any other strangeness? Do you have a firewall configured on any machine between 10.x and 192.x?
[09:02] <mtholdenss> would it be a standard feature in the nxt ubuntu to pick up if u have the right hardware and auto install drivers and enable feature?
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:02] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:02] <natural20> so i have a deb and a tar.gz to install Opera on Breezy, but I don't know how to use 'em. Any help?
[09:02] <altigen> daraknor: there is no firewalls, thay are just to subnets connected with a ubuntu box i mentioned ~
[09:03] <altigen> daraknor: and my iptables is empry~
[09:03] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, well, it's complicated
[09:03] <JoseStefan> natura20, use the deb
[09:03] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:03] <JoseStefan> !deb
[09:03] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[09:03] <lastnode> is xorg broken for some reason? i just upgraded xorg-core and X died on me
[09:03] <mtholdenss> oh k, but didnt the xgl feaure come from suse ?
[09:03] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, from Novell, SuSe's parent company
[09:03] <ompaul> lastnode,  /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, legal questions hold it back, mostly
[09:04] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, It go through that time?
[09:04] <lastnode> thanks ompaul
[09:04] <natural20> josestefan, double click opens the deb with archive manager (breezy)  i don't know how to fix that
[09:04] <avis> when did people start having issues with xorg ?
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, basically, ati and nvidia have proprietary drivers
[09:04] <PyroManiak> Anyone know why VNC server hardlocks my system? Or know of a guide for doing remote X sessions with windows?
[09:04] <Lattyware> Hey, My PC has been crashing randomly, since I first booted it this morning.
[09:04] <avis> i have been ok.  i could not open thunderbird but i fixed that.
[09:04] <JoseStefan> natura20, use:   sudo dpkg -i filename
[09:04] <ompaul> avalost, read the topci
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, which have hooks into the kernel
[09:04] <mtholdenss> oh k, legal questions?
[09:04] <rixth> Hi there, I have a RAID1 setup (very new) I made it with mdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc.
[09:04] <ali1234> PyroManiak: http://www.cdf.toronto.edu/workathome/index.php3?id=33
[09:04] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, which is basically not GPL-compliant
[09:05] <mtholdenss> oh k
[09:05] <KrakensDen> mtholdenss, so ubuntu can't put them on their CD
[09:05] <rixth> I rebooted, now my raid array is gone, now can I get it back WITHOUT losing data?
[09:05] <ompaul> avis, read the topic (international typo day)
[09:05] <KrakensDen> in my experience, though
[09:05] <KrakensDen> 2D will work fine
[09:05] <avis> thank you ompaul
[09:05] <KrakensDen> and 3D is fairly straightforward
[09:05] <KrakensDen> your mileage, as always, may vary
[09:05] <Lattyware> I ran MemTest, thinking it sounded like a RAM problem, as it crashed at completelty different times, and that came up with 'Unexpected interrupt: 0000000f' (not sure on the number of 0's)
[09:05] <mtholdenss> oh cause theres both partys of companies involved so u have to do it manually
[09:05] <fdsd> how do I Add the Universe repository?
[09:05] <fdsd> anyone know?
[09:05] <KrakensDen> fdsd, you want to use a gui or the command line?
[09:05] <fdsd> command line
[09:06] <ompaul> !universe > fdsd
[09:06] <lostinc> do you have to download a pkg to downgrade xorg or is there a command to revert in apt?
[09:06] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > lostinc
[09:06] <altigen> daraknor: it seems i was dropped from irc.  so there is no firewall between the 2 subnets
[09:06] <ompaul> fdsd, have a look at the message the bot sent you
[09:06] <avis> ty
[09:06] <JoseStefan> wow, ubotu supports pipes, lol
[09:06] <chris449> hi, i'm trying to make the kde/gnome decision and heard u can run them side by side, by using apt-get to install kde can i just choose either kde or gnome when i log in?
[09:06] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:06] <avis> everyone check the topic it will fix your system in one small step
[09:06] <KrakensDen> yup
[09:06] <avis> reboot time
[09:06] <KrakensDen> chris449, yup
[09:06] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: (thats about it, factoid > username
[09:06] <natural20> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[09:06] <natural20>  opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:
[09:06] <natural20>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[09:06] <natural20>    How do i fix that?
[09:06] <KrakensDen> chris449, and apps work seamlessly between them
[09:07] <chris449> KrakensDen: thanks, u made my life easier
[09:07] <daraknor> altigen, can you paste me the output of route -n from the router on a url or private message?
[09:07] <KrakensDen> chris449, apt-getting kubuntu-desktop would be better than KDE though
[09:07] <ompaul> !paste > natural20
[09:07] <NickGarvey> natural20: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[09:07] <chris449> thanks for help
[09:07] <KrakensDen> chris449, keep that in mind :)
[09:07] <KrakensDen> no problem
[09:07] <daurn|laptop> hi all
[09:07] <chris449> KrakensDen: is it a smaller download? i'm very hard drive concious atm
[09:07] <daurn|laptop> i'm a noob to linux, and i want to install unbuntu
[09:07] <daurn|laptop> i've just booted the install cd
[09:07] <KrakensDen> chris449, no idea, but it will work better
[09:07] <daurn|laptop> and i'm going thorugh it
[09:07] <Lattyware> My PC is crashing at seemingly random times, soon after boot, but anywhere from GRUB to once I have my window manager running, I thought it sounded like a RAM problem, so I ran Memtest, which came up with 'Unexpected Interrupt:' then a load of 0s and an f at the end. Any help would be appreciated.
[09:08] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, does breezy have that pkg ?
[09:08] <|skillet|> is there a way to blacklist packages with synaptic
[09:08] <chris449> KrakensDen: lol fe
[09:08] <chris449> thanks for help
[09:08] <KrakensDen> Lattyware, you have bad RAM
[09:08] <lastnode> Lattyware: is your RAM loose? sometimes that used to happen to me, it was a faulty ram chip
[09:08] <JoseStefan> |skillet|, you could try locking the package
[09:08] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: no idea at all, but I would think so because I don't think qt3 is the most recent
[09:08] <xfail> thanks KrakensDen
[09:08] <runixd> what happened to X ?
[09:08] <KrakensDen> Lattyware, yourr life will be better if you swap it out for a new one
[09:08] <|skillet|> JoseStefan: locking the package?
[09:08] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: but I could be very wrong :)
[09:08] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, didnt you have a cmd just for that, earlier
[09:08] <lastnode> !xorgbug > runixd
[09:08] <KrakensDen> Lattyware, or you could patch your kernel to work around it
[09:08] <Lattyware> Heh, well there is that excuse for the Gig of RAM I wanted :/
[09:09] <lastnode> Lattyware: it may just be a loose chip. take it out and fit it in more securely?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> !info libqt3-mt breezy
[09:09] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), package size 3213 kB, installed size 9036 kB
[09:09] <JoseStefan> |skillet|, select package, click Package on the top menu, and click Lock Version
[09:09] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: yup, its in breezy :)
[09:09] <lastnode> NickGarvey: /msg ubotu please
[09:09] <Lattyware> lastnode: I will try that.
[09:09] <fdsd> anyone know?
[09:09] <lastnode> Lattyware: good luck!
[09:09] <runixd> can't the xorg update just be removed ?
[09:09] <fdsd> how do I Add the Universe repository?
[09:09] <Lattyware> Thanks...
[09:09] <|skillet|> oh sweet
[09:09] <KrakensDen> fdsd, what?
[09:09] <lastnode> runixd: /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:09] <hayden> is there such a linux program that can read, write and edit visio files?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> fdoving: the bot has msged you several times
[09:09] <|skillet|> JoseStefan: thank you
[09:09] <NickGarvey> fdsd: : the bot has msged you several times
[09:09] <lastnode> runixd: im just fixing it right now, you need to dl a deb and dpkg -i it
[09:09] <NickGarvey> fdoving: (sorry)
[09:09] <JoseStefan> |skillet|, np
[09:10] <DShepherd> how can i find out the bus speed of my ram installed?
[09:10] <runixd> lastnode, I just did, but thinking about all the other users now
[09:10] <fdsd> NickGarvey, didnt get it
[09:10] <|skillet|> i love the linux comunity
[09:10] <natural20> all you dudes f#$%ing rock
[09:10] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: I think "cat /proc/meminfo" will do it
[09:10] <lastnode> runixd: yeah there's sure to be an influx. :)
[09:10] <JoseStefan> DShepherd, memtest will display that information
[09:10] <NickGarvey> !universe > fdsd
[09:10] <natural20> i give each and every one of you a "good game" pat on the ass
[09:10] <lostinc> ok I am in a live CD if I do as ubotu says will it still work even if I am runnning in live cd
[09:11] <meathead> how do you set the default download directory in Ubuntu Center for torrentflux to actually the folder you want, not thefolderyouwant/.torrents
[09:11] <meathead> I take it no one here knows anything about iControlX or "Ubuntu Center"
[09:11] <fdsd> NickGarvey, that link is not loading
[09:11] <meathead> eerrr
[09:11] <meathead> iCenter X
[09:11] <lastnode> meathead: Ubuntu Center?
[09:11] <NickGarvey> fdsd: hmm... what is the link?
[09:11] <daraknor> DShepherd, your BIOS should tell you
[09:11] <JoseStefan> !universe > me
[09:12] <fdsd> NickGarvey, how hard is it to tell me what to add to my config file?
[09:12] <NickGarvey> fdsd: I don't know, I don't use ubuntu
[09:12] <DShepherd> JoseStefan, daraknor any way to find out booted up in ubuntu
[09:12] <NickGarvey> fdsd: how hard is it to read the webpage?
[09:12] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: nothing there.
[09:12] <fdsd> NickGarvey, very if it doesnt load
[09:12] <NickGarvey> fdsd: or copy and paste the webpage so I can copy and paste the command
[09:12] <lostinc> does this Xorg thing effect other distros like Xubuntu?
[09:12] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: mm.. try sudo
[09:12] <meathead> lastnode: ubuntu center, web based page with torrent support, images, music, calendar...
[09:12] <meathead> now called icontrox
[09:12] <Flannel> fdsd: what to add (also which mirror), where to add, what to do after you add it.
[09:12] <swarm> anyone know how to disable the OSD lock on viewsonic e90?
[09:12] <meathead> err
[09:13] <meathead> I keep tying that
[09:13] <meathead> iCenter X
[09:13] <meathead> icenterx.info
[09:13] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: huh??? try sudo?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: "sudo cat /proc/meminfo"
[09:13] <fdsd> !universe > NickGarvey
[09:13] <JoseStefan> fdsd, you can try synaptic
[09:13] <fdsd> IM ON THE COMMAND LINE
[09:14] <ompaul> !shout
[09:14] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:14] <Flannel> fdsd: calm down there.  Go to your sources.list, uncomment the universe lines.  Or, add them to the end of your current ones.
[09:14] <lastnode> guys, what's the command to regenerate my xorg.conf?
[09:14] <mcrandello> fdsd: dselect
[09:14] <JoseStefan> fdsd, can i msg you?
[09:14] <fdsd> Flannel, I did that, it still cant find the package squashfs-tools
[09:14] <NickGarvey> fdsd: I am pretty sure the sources.list file has it all in there, just commented out
[09:14] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: it shows nothing different.. were you serious?
[09:14] <fdsd> sure
[09:14] <Flannel> fdsd: did you apt-get update after adding them?
[09:14] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: mm.. works on mine, but I run suse so no idea
[09:14] <fdsd> Flannel, nope
[09:15] <Flannel> fdsd: that's your problem then
[09:15] <mcrandello> have to update
[09:15] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: what option should i be looking for..
[09:15] <KrakensDen> !tell lastnode about xorgbugfix
[09:15] <fdsd> Flannel, thank you
[09:15] <natural20> ok.  I still can't access yahoo groups pages on breezy using opera, epiphany, or firefox.  ideas?
[09:15] <KrakensDen> lastnode, that may be what you're looking for ;)
[09:15] <ompaul> fdsd, did you do sudo apt-get update after you altered the sources list?
[09:15] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: might not work in ubuntu, not sure, might need to be compiled into the kernel
[09:15] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: k
[09:16] <fdsd> ompaul, worked
[09:16] <ompaul> fdsd, great
[09:16] <KrakensDen> oh wow
[09:16] <KrakensDen> it's past midnight?
[09:16] <rixth> Hi there, I have a RAID1 setup (very new) I made it with mdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc. I rebooted, now my raid array is gone, how can I get it back WITHOUT losing data?
[09:16] <heavydrinker> Rumsfeld has all the Yahoo Adult channels shut down
[09:17] <ompaul> KrakensDen, it is always past midnight, it is just a mater of scale
[09:17] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, i don't see bus speed on my /proc/meminfo
[09:17] <NickGarvey> heavydrinker: offtopic please :) (I'd like to hear more about that)
[09:17] <daraknor> meminfo won't show memory speed, I checked on my machine. Not something that kernel really has access to. The memory speed isn't necessary to expose to drivers since it is all about cache timings
[09:17] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: ubuntu probably doesn't have it compiled in
[09:17] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: although.. looking over that.. I don't see speed either..
[09:18] <sethk> DShepherd, there is info in /sys that might help you find the memory bus speeds
[09:18] <msoul> Flannel: what was the channel you suggested earlier
[09:18] <msoul> ubuntu-oftopic or something
[09:19] <Luxurious> I cannot, for saving my life, figure out a way to turn reverse DNS mapping off for my SSH.  Does anyone know how to?
[09:19] <sethk> msoul, ubuntu-offtopic
[09:19] <msoul> ah okie
[09:19] <msoul> thanks
[09:19] <DShepherd> sethk: ok.. let me take a lok
[09:19] <sethk> Luxurious, no, and I've looked extensively
[09:19] <sethk> DShepherd, start with /sys/class/mem
[09:19] <Luxurious> Did you have this problem sethk: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-37233.html
[09:19] <DShepherd> sethk: ok
[09:20] <daraknor> Luxurious, check with syslog. Syslog is doing the lookup I think.
[09:20] <Luxurious> daraknor: 1.  how?  2. on the SSH server or the client machine?
[09:21] <elhaxxorz> no flames please, has anyone found an AMD64 module for the infamous SB Live! 24-bit (CA106 chipset) PCI sound card?
[09:21] <daraknor> Luxurious, are you getting the 30 second delay on login issue?
[09:21] <sethk> daraknor, syslog might do a lookup, but the lookup also occurs in the absence of syslog
[09:21] <Luxurious> daraknor: No, I'm getting a delay on login and "Closed by remote host"
[09:21] <NickGarvey> elhaxxorz: have you read !sound?
[09:21] <DShepherd> sethk: doesnt seem to be anything useful there,,
[09:22] <swarm> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <elhaxxorz> !sound
[09:22] <swarm> !sound > swarm
[09:22] <daraknor> DShepherd, BIOS is the only place to check I'm pretty sure. I looked before too.
[09:22] <sethk> DShepherd, probably isn't for all architectures.   you might look around elsewhere in /sys, but that's the most likely place to find it
[09:22] <chris86wm> im trying to add wifi-radar to a gdesklet. i cant figure out the command to make it launch though, any help?
[09:22] <DShepherd> sethk: ok
[09:22] <Four23619> i heard that Automatix can break one's Ubuntu install? is this true? and if so, what will it break?
[09:22] <swarm> !sound > elhaxxorz
[09:22] <heavydrinker> eunichs is hard
[09:23] <Luxurious> This problem seems freakin' unsolvable.
[09:23] <NickGarvey> Four23619: I suggest easyubuntu
[09:23] <Luxurious> I wonder how many days I must be at it to get my bloody SSH working.
[09:23] <orbish> i hope it doesn't break one's ubuntu, it's installing as we speak
[09:23] <heavydrinker> eunuchs *
[09:23] <Flannel> Four23619: yes, it can break an installation.  And, it breaks everything.  Its nearly impossible to fix.  Easier to reinstall.
[09:23] <mcrandello> does powernowd do anything other than load up the cpu frequency scaling stuff/
[09:23] <DShepherd> daraknor: ok.. i do that afterwards. i just wanted to know if there's a way to find out in linux
[09:23] <Four23619> i used to use EasyUbuntu, but i get "fix broken packages" first
[09:23] <Flannel> Luxurious: what problems you having?
[09:23] <heavydrinker> damnit*
[09:24] <NickGarvey> Four23619: then do so, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f
[09:24] <sethk> Luxurious, other than the reverse lookup, which is an annoying delay at times but doesn't stop it from working, it works very well for me
[09:24] <Luxurious> Flannel: http://pastey.net/352
[09:24] <daraknor> Luxurious, the logging application is klogd. Try google on klogd and reverse dns
[09:24] <JoseStefan> launchpad still down right?
[09:24] <sethk> Luxurious, fix reverse dns so the lookup doesn't fail
[09:24] <Luxurious> Hmmm... and now I'm not even sure this problem is DNS
[09:24] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: I heard it was up
[09:25] <ompaul> JoseStefan, no
[09:25] <daraknor> Luxurious, you could just put a static hosts entry for known IP addresses
[09:25] <Luxurious> I had a reverse DNS problem with FTP, but that worked eventually though.
[09:25] <JoseStefan> ok, bad browser setting
[09:25] <drh_> hi can anyone tell me why this apt-get command is failing?
[09:26] <orbish> drh_: using sudo apt-get?
[09:26] <Luxurious> I don't know the hostname daraknor.
[09:26] <dan_> I need to downgrade libio-socket-ssl-perl to version 0.96 (currently 0.97) to make SSL works with popfile but I can't figure how...
[09:26] <drh_> orbish: aye
[09:26] <daraknor> Luxurious, you can just make one up so the IP addy resolves to *any* name
[09:26] <rixth> Where can I find a software raid tutorial for ubuntu? The trigger !raid does not hep.
[09:26] <rixth> help, even
[09:26] <ali1234> is 6 hours an unreasonably long time for a kernel compile on a pentium 3? it's still going as well...
[09:26] <drh_> orbish: I can cut&paste the message if it will help
[09:26] <DShepherd> drh_: sudo apt-get install packge=version
[09:27] <orbish> drh_: sure
[09:27] <NickGarvey> rixth: why do the links not work?
[09:27] <drh_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:27] <Luxurious> Holy wtf
[09:27] <drh_> E: Broken packages
[09:27] <Luxurious> This works using putty on my Winbox
[09:27] <JoseStefan> should i worry that ubuntu still doesnt have PHP 5.1.5 nor the most recent version of apache2 ?
[09:27] <K^Holtz> is there a reason why my clock seems to run fast all the time? i always have to readjust it because its about 5 minutes fast
[09:27] <NickGarvey> Luxurious: what doesn't work?
[09:27] <Luxurious> it's the mac
[09:27] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> So whats the deal with the whole xorg bug thing I saw mentioned on the forums?
[09:27] <rixth> NickGarvey, the information there is not relevant.
[09:27] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: no, perhaps it hasn't been tested yet
[09:27] <drh_> DSheperd: If i do =2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2 will that do it?
[09:27] <NickGarvey> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: do NOT update or things will break
[09:27] <Luxurious>  NickGarvey: my ssh http://pastey.net/352
[09:27] <sethk> K^Holtz, that's a function of the hardware, not the o/s
[09:27] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> haha
[09:27] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> lovely
[09:28] <sethk> K^Holtz, you can run ntpupdate to fix it.  run it periodically in cron
[09:28] <Luxurious> NickGarvey: But now that seems only to be my mac.
[09:28] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop
[09:28] <ompaul> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop, ,  /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:28] <pfmmaas> someone aware of problems after updating xorg?
[09:28] <DShepherd> drh_: sudo apt-get install package=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2 will install that version. is that what you want to do?
[09:28] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Luxurious: i would have prefered you not have done that, but ok
[09:28] <ompaul> pfmmaas, /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:28] <drh_> DSheperd: well i want libfreetype6-dev installed
[09:28] <nrdb> This morning there was an update for the xserver which I installed, now my computer won't start gnome.  I did a "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver" and it hasn't helped, can anyone help? :(
[09:28] <DShepherd> drh_: from your message you seem you want to upgrade.. not downgrade.. but I am not sure
[09:28] <orbish> drh_: sudo apt-get libfreetype6-dev
[09:28] <NickGarvey> Luxurious: wow I have no idea at all..
[09:28] <rixth> NickGarvey, reponse?
[09:28] <orbish> that should fix the dependency problem
[09:29] <NickGarvey> Luxurious: I have messed up that kind of stuff a lot but never gotten taht
[09:29] <ompaul> nrdb, /msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:29] <drh_> orbish: thats what I type and I get the response I posted
[09:29] <orbish> oh ok.. hmm
[09:29] <Luxurious> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: hah, done what?
[09:29] <NickGarvey> rixth: I know nothing about raid, I was just wondering if something needed updating
[09:29] <NickGarvey> rixth: sorry about that
[09:29] <nrdb> ompaul: nothing happened.
[09:29] <rixth> Ok =)
[09:29] <Luxurious> NickGarvey: This seems to be my Mac's problem now, not the server.
[09:29] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Luxurious: had the bot /msg me
[09:29] <JoseStefan> support people, i suggest not pointing to the xorg i386 solution, not everyone has the same platform, use the generic one instead
[09:29] <NickGarvey> orbish: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6-dev you mean
[09:30] <orbish> yes sir
[09:30] <drh_> DShepherd: Hrm well it is saying libfreetyp6-dev depends on libfreetype6 = 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2
[09:30] <daraknor> Luxurious, possibly, but make sure the mac's IP address is registered somehow on the server.
[09:30] <Luxurious> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: I did?
[09:30] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: which is the generic?
[09:30] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's a good point
[09:30] <DShepherd> drh_: apt-cache policy libfreetype6 #what does that tell you
[09:30] <JoseStefan> plain "xorgbug"
[09:30] <ompaul> nrdb u need to register, it says this:  wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[09:30] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:30] <drh_> DShepherd: but i have 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[09:30] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Luxurious: oh woops, im tired and read the wrong line, it was someone else
[09:30] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> heh
[09:30] <ompaul> !register
[09:30] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:30] <johnnybezak> do newish laptops use special ram or just standard sticks?
[09:30] <orbish> drh_: i don't know... i'm sure someone else can help... i'm not that experienced yet
[09:30] <DShepherd> drh_: yeah i know
[09:30] <nrdb> nrdb,/msg ubuntu xorgbugfix
[09:30] <Luxurious> Teehee
[09:31] <drh_> DSheperd: ok should I cut&paste the reposone here?
[09:31] <ne3ro> im newbie here..i have a problem. when i run ubuntu live cd i only see a cursor and a brownish screen. nothing else on the screen.wats wrong?
[09:31] <DShepherd> drh_: no pastebin is better, know where to find it?
[09:31] <johnnybezak> ne3ro: x is not working properly
[09:31] <NickGarvey> Four23619: are you there? I just realized something that could break your system
[09:31] <JoseStefan> xorgbugfix only shows the i386 fix
[09:31] <NickGarvey> Four23619: do NOT update/upgrade, I repeat do NOT
[09:31] <Four23619> im here
[09:31] <Luxurious> Okay so I changed my /etc/hosts file, gonna try that first.  Any idea how I restart the stuff for it to work?
[09:31] <Luxurious> I remember it was a "killall" command.
[09:31] <orbish> NickGarvey: what happens if you do? i'm running automattix as we speak
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Four23619: theres a bug that I expect will be fixed in the near future
[09:32] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> Ya no, i would have thought a bugfix would have made it upstream by now....
[09:32] <NickGarvey> orbish: X is breaking all over the place
[09:32] <ne3ro> how to fix that, johnnybezak?
[09:32] <drh_> DShepherd: http://pastebin.com/773056
[09:32] <Four23619> ooo
[09:32] <NickGarvey> orbish: and use easyubuntu instead
[09:32] <drh_> orbish: thanks anyway :)
[09:32] <kolla|wrk> Hello everyone
[09:32] <NickGarvey> orbish: ;)
[09:32] <Four23619> i installed an X update of some sort today
[09:32] <NickGarvey> Four23619: do NOT turn off your computer if you are not comfortable wit hcommand line
[09:32] <orbish> NickGarvey: well i'm expecting it to, it's happened before after easyubuntu or automatix, and i forgot which... i fixed it then... will be easier this time
[09:33] <orbish> i think it corrupts your font files
[09:33] <Luxurious> Thanks for the help guys.
[09:33] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> oh no! not the CLI
[09:33] <johnnybezak> ne3ro: umm, hard to tell i don't use live cd's all that much. what do you want to do with the live cd?
[09:33] <Luxurious> I'll look better into this later.
[09:33] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> hehe
[09:33] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2
[09:33] <NickGarvey> GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop: heh, you'd be surprised about how much it scares some people
[09:33] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> i know ;)
[09:33] <DShepherd> drh_: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2
[09:34] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> I'm in CLI right now, IRSSI :D
[09:34] <DShepherd> drh_: that should install the version you want
[09:34] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:34] <swarm> command line is fun =)
[09:34] <JoseStefan> the xorg error, does not hard lock my PC, but it sure doesnt look pretty, nothing clear cant fix :P
[09:34] <kolla|wrk> Im thinking of installing ubuntu on my future laptop, though i'm not sure does the "free program download" utility has the programs i need. Is there anywhere i can see them?
[09:34] <swarm> dos was fun :)
[09:34] <DShepherd> drh_: oh..
[09:34] <DShepherd> drh wait..
[09:34] <heavydrinker> i cut n' paste every command that goes thriugh the channel
[09:34] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> dos was horrid, no tab completion
[09:34] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: free program download?
[09:34] <drh_> DShepherd: Yeah I said no :)
[09:34] <kolla|wrk> there is some text on the website "Need more software? You can choose from hundreds of software packages in the Ubuntu software catalogue, all available to download and install with the click of a button. And it's all completely free."
[09:34] <drh_> DShepherd: It would uninstall over 222 packages
[09:35] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: ah, the repositories?  You can check at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <JoseStefan> anyone know how to make xorg errors prettier, mine usually have a weird font and are all garbled up
[09:35] <DShepherd> drh_: sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2
[09:35] <kolla|wrk> ok thanks
[09:35] <morzel> hi
[09:35] <morzel> how can i downgrade X aftert the today's update?
[09:35] <NickGarvey> morzel: hello :)
[09:35] <NickGarvey> !xorgbugfix > morzel
[09:35] <ne3ro> johhnybezak>i just wanna try the live cd. nothing important..
[09:35] <drh_> DShepherd: I'm wondering if the package is just broken?  That would uninstall over 222 packages too
[09:35] <swarm> anyone know of any load balancing software? for people with multiple internet connections?
[09:35] <orbish> kolla|wrk: it installs open-source software, don't expect adobe photoshop to be in there, but they have good replacements for programs you're used to, gimp would be a photoshop replacement app
[09:35] <NickGarvey> morzel: that assumes you use a 32 bit..
[09:35] <DShepherd> drh_: oh..I am not sure if that's a good thing
[09:36] <drh_> DShepherd: I think libfreetype6-dev is just a broken package
[09:36] <johnnybezak> ne3ro: ok, i'm not sure :)
[09:36] <kolla|wrk> orbish, yea i know.. Thats obvious, im just interested which programs will be..
[09:36] <DShepherd> drh_: maybe... who knows.. but thats how you can downgrade if you feel the need
[09:36] <kolla|wrk> orbish, what would be replacement for corel draw?
[09:36] <KrakensDen> what are the symptoms of the broken X package?
[09:36] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: inkscape
[09:36] <drh_> DShephered: OK, thanks
[09:36] <JoseStefan> KrakensDen, X wont start after reboot
[09:37] <mcrandello> okay PPP is only really neccesary for dialup, right?
[09:37] <rapier> can anyone look at my iptables-save and tell my why my port forwarding isn't working? http://pastebin.com/773057
[09:37] <Flannel> mcrandello: rigt
[09:37] <DShepherd> drh_: np
[09:37] <mcrandello> Flannel: thanks, now to find which script is loading the modem module
[09:37] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, right, is it an 'IO error'? Because I'm talking to someone who swears he's installed the fix
[09:37] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, but he still can't get up and running
[09:37] <deeo> wow.  can't believe this flaming bug, i literally installed dapper *clean* ONE day ago, and on my SECOND dist upgrade, X breaks.
[09:37] <KrakensDen> look at the topic
[09:38] <kolla|wrk> mcrandello, you've used inkscape on ubuntu?
[09:38] <KrakensDen> the maintainers made a boo-boo
[09:38] <deeo> why, the bot gave me the url.
[09:38] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: yep
[09:38] <NickGarvey> deeo: yeah, big mess up
[09:38] <KrakensDen> that too :P
[09:38] <KrakensDen> sorry
[09:38] <johnnybezak> wow what a f*ck up :P
[09:38] <SillyZ> mornin, debatin on how to get xubuntu installed here... latpop installation, no cdrom drive... Ive seen the documentation on a cdrom/networkless installation although have played with the partitioning tool and it will not move data on an ntfs partition, it will resize it but wont move it ... any thoughts?
[09:38] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: used it a bit on win32 a while back, practically the same program both places
[09:38] <JoseStefan> KrakensDen, X will complain about not finding a screen
[09:38] <Vide80> hi, what's the best channel for a ubuntu server related question?
[09:39] <KrakensDen> JoseStefan, thanks
[09:39] <Flannel> Vide80: here
[09:39] <kolla|wrk> So it's not that different from the corel draw, right? Im just wondering is this thing worth the effort, because everything is working fine under windows, but you know.. People want changes sometimes in their life.
[09:39] <KrakensDen> ?
[09:39] <Vide80> ok, so here we go
[09:39] <Anubuntu> hello
[09:39] <rapier> am i asking a really difficult question or am i being too vague? why does everyone always ignore me? :P
[09:39] <KrakensDen> argh
[09:39] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: you can install inkscape on windows, if you want to try it out.  Is corel draw bitmap or vector based stuff?
[09:39] <Madpilot> kolla|wrk, inkscape has a Windows port too, if you want to try it out before installing Ubuntu
[09:39] <KrakensDen> my touchpad is twitching out
[09:39] <Vide80> I have a ubuntu server hanging on the starting kernel event manager step
[09:39] <orbish> are there any IRC clients that will work in terminal? i'm expecting tons of errors on my next reboot
[09:39] <kolla|wrk> flanel , thats what im going to do right now :p
[09:39] <Vide80> it simply stays there forever
[09:39] <KrakensDen> orbish, irssi
[09:39] <Flannel> orbish: irssi is installed by default
[09:39] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: afaik it's like inkscap is to Draw as the gimp is to photoshop
[09:39] <KrakensDen> orbish, installed by default
[09:39] <kolla|wrk> flannel, its for vector based stuff
[09:40] <NickGarvey> orbish: irssi/bitchx (irssi is my personal favorite)
[09:40] <orbish> thanks guys
[09:40] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: yeah, then inkscape is the replacement
[09:40] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: it won't be exactly the same, obviously, but it does the same thing
[09:40] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> IRSSI > IRCII>BitchX
[09:40] <Vide80> until you CTRL+C, but then hangs on portmap service and finally (after another ctrl+c) hangs on kernel logger
[09:40] <deeo> rapier i'd help but i can't get X running atm, and i don't feel too keen on typing that url out in links
[09:40] <deeo> but if you give me a few minutes...
[09:40] <nrdb> I am having trouble with the xserver I just downgraded to the older version now I get an error message "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory"
[09:40] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: there was a KDE project called Karbon14 I think they renamed it but I forget to what :(
[09:40] <orbish> i'm going to need a replacement for Freehand, before i make a 100% switch... ideas?
[09:40] <NickGarvey> deeo: get "gpm", you can use your mouse to copy and paste
[09:40] <Vide80> i have no way to debug, it hangs even on safe mode
[09:40] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > deeo
[09:40] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: also a draw type program
[09:41] <Anubuntu> I did something really really really extraordinarily stupid. I was editing my partitions. and I ended up formatting the wrong one via ubuntu disk management.  At the moment I am booted into SLAX. The problem is, the one I formatted was my ubuntu partition. thus killing my bootloader and linux at the same time
[09:41] <Anubuntu> now I have most of my stuff backed up, so normally I would just reinstall
[09:41] <Morrowyn> is there something like a linux api for linux, like there is a win32/fx api for windows ?
[09:41] <kolla|wrk> mcrandello, oki.. I'l check this inkspace.. Im just abit worried that my boss wont be able to open files :D
[09:41] <kolla|wrk> i'd dont want that to happen, lol
[09:41] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: why don't you then?
[09:41] <mcrandello> Morrowyn: POSIX I think
[09:41] <Flannel> kolla|wrk: believe it can export/save as most filetypes
[09:41] <Anubuntu> but there is one file, a small text file, that I need back, now I know that it didnt completly wipe the drive, so I am hoping to be able to restore some if not all of it
[09:41] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, sort of
[09:42] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, there is posix, but that's system level
[09:42] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: ah, read this
[09:42] <heavydrinker> i need to hit the god damned sack... ( and boot back into idiot mode)...  night all
[09:42] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: well actually
[09:42] <Anubuntu> if all isnt possible, I definitly need the text file. it has a number I need for tommorrow
[09:42] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: use a live cd and mount your hard drive
[09:42] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, for gui programming... there are 10 thousand
[09:42] <kolla|wrk> There comes another question around, since i've not actually used anything besides win, is ubuntu good for beginners? It looks really friendly right now..
[09:42] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, XLib is the real low-level one, painful to use and hardly anyone does
[09:42] <SillyZ> how large of a partition should one make for xubuntu/ubuntu ? ( ie : / or root )
[09:42] <kolla|wrk> Atleast the web developer has done his job very well :p
[09:42] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, most people use GTK or QT
[09:42] <GiGaHuRtZ|Laptop> weird, I just noticed that my wifi blinky light on my E1505 actually blinks in linux and not windows, weird...
[09:42] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: it is probably the most beginner freindly one out there atm
[09:42] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: um.. are you asking the minimum?
[09:43] <Madpilot> SillyZ, for Ubuntu, at least 2Gb; 5GB or more is recommended. Not sure about Xubuntu.
[09:43] <SillyZ> NickGarvey, average size aprox
[09:43] <kolla|wrk> mcrandello, ok cool.
[09:43] <kolla|wrk> thanks
[09:43] <protocol1> is there like a package that will allow me to use all streaming media types that I can download?
[09:43] <orbish> kolla|wrk: on top of that, it has a nice community that will help you out when you run into problems
[09:43] <Anubuntu> NickGarvey, actually, I am in a live boot (SLAX) but it sees only the new file system. I am hoping to recover the old one, or to  recover some files from it
[09:43] <SillyZ> NickGarvey, say 5gb?
[09:43] <deeo> !xorgbug > JoseStefan
[09:43] <deeo> teehee
[09:43] <deeo> payback baby.
[09:43] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: of course I reccomend getting the kubuntu livecd :)
[09:43] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: that sohuld do it for a minimun install fine
[09:43] <JoseStefan> deeo, i though yuo needed help with X ?
[09:43] <kolla|wrk> mcrandello, why's that?
[09:44] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: and that was horrible spelling
[09:44] <lassegs> good morning ppl
[09:44] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: oh.. so you are saying you deleted it but you are trying to recover it?
[09:44] <SillyZ> NickGarvey, hehe spellchunker = off;
[09:44] <kolla|wrk> mcrandello, there's some good manuals, right?
[09:44] <morzel> NickGarvey: thanks for help
[09:44] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: I'm more of a KDE person myself
[09:44] <Morrowyn> well suppose i want to write a gui application but also want to use the system stuff, does gtk or qt support that?
[09:44] <NickGarvey> morzel: :)
[09:44] <Anubuntu> nickgarvey, formatted it, but not a full format (it didnt take long enough to have wiped the whole partition)
[09:44] <SillyZ> Thanks NickGarvey
[09:44] <nrdb> I have just downgraded the xserver package, and now I am getting an error message "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory" :( can anyone help?
[09:44] <Madpilot> kolla|wrk, the onboard help is OK, and there's help.ubuntu.com for more
[09:44] <orbish> kubuntu was nothing but problems for me, i stuck with ubuntu
[09:44] <NickGarvey> Anubuntu: oh boy.. um.. yeah thats not something I know how to do
[09:44] <mcrandello> kolla|wrk: also the ubuntu forums, this channel on irc and #kubuntu as well
[09:45] <Teltariat> Greets folks...
[09:45] <JoseStefan> nrdb, to which version did you downgrade?
[09:45] <Anubuntu> NickGarvey, I had a program to do it in windows... looking for one that can do it with linux...
[09:45] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, of course :P
[09:45] <orbish> anubuntu: there are programs on windows that will let you look at deleted data
[09:45] <nrdb> JoseStefan: the one recommended 1.0.2
[09:45] <orbish> not sure if it will see your file systemt hough
[09:45] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, if you want to port it to windows, QT would be a better choice
[09:46] <kolla|wrk> ok thanks again guys
[09:46] <Anubuntu> orbish, yes, but I cant boot to windows, and its an ext3 file system
[09:46] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, otherwise the two are fairly similar
[09:46] <orbish> no prob kolla
[09:46] <JoseStefan> nrdb, there are at lest three different revisions of 1.0.2
[09:46] <JoseStefan> least*
[09:46] <Anubuntu> I should also mention, that I NEEED this text file by tommorrow, it contains some important contact information
[09:46] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, what programming language are you looking at?
[09:46] <mtholdenss> hey does ubuntu now have the mac expose feature that most linux distros have?
[09:46] <Anubuntu> I am screwed without it.
[09:46] <KrakensDen> 0o
[09:46] <Morrowyn> well i was just wondering ( c++ )
[09:46] <KrakensDen> 'most'?
[09:47] <orbish> Anubuntu: what i would do then is take out the drive, and put it in another machine that is running, set it as slave or whatever, and use a partition magic, or one of those programs that allows you to retrieve deleted data
[09:47] <nrdb> JoseStefan: xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[09:47] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, most of the system level stuff should be the same- except case sensitive and we use a slash instead of a backslash
[09:47] <NickGarvey> Morrowyn: "glade" will do gtk gui
[09:47] <Morrowyn> i know when devving on windows, you can use thw inw32 api to exploit certain windows stuff, which is really nice, i was wondering if linux had the equivalent
[09:47] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, and there is no registry
[09:47] <JoseStefan> nrdb: ok, looks good
[09:47] <Anubuntu> orbish, only other machine in this house is a mac
[09:47] <orbish> hmm
[09:47] <Anubuntu> orbish, and I NEEED it by tommorrow.
[09:47] <nrdb> JoseStefan: not from here
[09:48] <Anubuntu> it could cost me a lot of trouble if I dont
[09:48] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, what is the functionality you want?
[09:48] <Morrowyn> threading, sockets
[09:48] <KrakensDen> ah
[09:48] <orbish> Anubuntu: looking up software sit tight
[09:48] <Morrowyn> async coding functions
[09:48] <KrakensDen> that's POSIX-level
[09:48] <Anubuntu> orbish, thank you so much
[09:48] <orbish> Anubuntu: what file system was it deleted from?
[09:49] <KrakensDen> and that will be the same no matter what GUI toolkit you use
[09:49] <Anubuntu> ext3
[09:49] <SillyZ> NickGarvey, heres my delima, have a 100gb drive split 20/80 both ntfs partitions.... the paritioning tool in ubuntu will resize an ntfs partition but wont allow it to be moved, so its either move all the data off the 80gb partition, make the linux partition and then re-create the whats left over partition, or just slam linux into a 10gb partition on the end of the 80 gb partition
[09:49] <JoseStefan> nrdb, it is possible you might need to reconfigure the xserver, but it may not be releated to the xserver at all
[09:49] <Morrowyn> so what lib do i need to use for it on linux?
[09:49] <nrdb> JoseStefan: I have allready done a reconfigure of "xserver-xorg"
[09:49] <Anubuntu> anubuntu: I think... well it was whatever dapper drake defaults to. it was a rather fresh install
[09:50] <JoseStefan> nrdb, are there any wacom specific packages you could try re-installing ?
[09:50] <asabil> Morrowyn, what are you looking for
[09:50] <orbish> http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm
[09:50] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: and the 20 gb is your OS?
[09:50] <scheuri> hello all
[09:50] <daurn|laptop> hey
[09:50] <asabil> Morrowyn, I think i can help with async IO
[09:50] <nrdb> JoseStefan: I don't know what wacom is do you?
[09:50] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: for xp?
[09:50] <daurn|laptop> i need some help
[09:50] <orbish> there is a shareware version you can download... not sure if it will do what you need it to though
[09:50] <daurn|laptop> is there somewhere less crowded?
[09:50] <orbish> if it's that important, you can buy the software...
[09:50] <Anubuntu> ick
[09:50] <KrakensDen> #include <pthread.h>
[09:50] <JoseStefan> nrdb, wacom is a tablet input thingy i thing, i thought you had one
[09:50] <Anubuntu> its probably for windows..
[09:50] <orbish> i'll continue to look
[09:51] <scheuri> daurn|laptop: just ask and we try to help...:)
[09:51] <KenSentMe> daurn|laptop: just ask your question here, the more people, the bigger the change you get an answer
[09:51] <daurn|laptop> well, i need to mount a partition, but when i do, it says i don't have the permission to access it
[09:51] <Anubuntu> thats the proggie I had on windows that I cant boot
[09:51] <nrdb> JoseStefan: nope!
[09:51] <NickGarvey> daurn|laptop: try sudo
[09:51] <daurn|laptop> KenSentMe: but i get lost in the backlog
[09:51] <rapier2> how can i test whether or not a port is open?
[09:51] <Lattyware> Ugh, ok.
[09:51] <Morrowyn> http://std.dkuug.dk/keld/readme-salvage.html  Anubuntu dunno if this is any good
[09:51] <rapier2> or rather being forwarded to another machine
[09:51] <daurn|laptop> NickGarvey: it gets mounted, but i can't browse to it
[09:51] <Morrowyn> but worth a read i guess
[09:51] <SillyZ> 20gb for Win2k, 80gb storage, apps, etc
[09:51] <JoseStefan> nrdb, that is very weird, did you try googleing it ?
[09:51] <Morrowyn> daurn|laptop, permission arent set properly
[09:51] <marie> lo all. I am trying to get ubuntu and my nvidia card working together but I seem to be having issues.  I have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common packages and I have run nvidia-xconfig but X will not start if the driver in xorg.conf for the video card is "nvidia"  it will however start if I use "vesa".  Anyone have any ideas?
[09:51] <Lattyware> I took out my ram, put it back in, and it hasn't crashed, but now, X won't start
[09:51] <Anubuntu> orbish: AARRRRG, windows....
[09:51] <daurn|laptop> "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage"
[09:51] <Lattyware> I get an error 'No Screens'
[09:52] <SillyZ> just a lil concerned bout performance being all the out on the tail end of the drive
[09:52] <daurn|laptop> how do i let anyone access it?
[09:52] <mcrandello> Anubuntu: testdisk
[09:52] <mcrandello> it has saved my ass before
[09:52] <Lattyware> The config file is fine.
[09:52] <KenSentMe> marie: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any errors
[09:52] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, pthread.h
[09:52] <Anubuntu> mcrandello, testdisk?
[09:52] <mcrandello> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[09:52] <nrdb> JoseStefan: no, I got the error as soon as I downgraded, I thought it would be easy to get rid off.
[09:52] <Morrowyn> daurn|laptop, try   sudo mount -o uid = <yourid> /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage
[09:52] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, for threading
[09:52] <orbish> http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Security/Xclean.shtml
[09:52] <NickGarvey> daurn|laptop: try "mount -o users /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage
[09:52] <daurn|laptop> <your id>
[09:52] <daurn|laptop> ?
[09:52] <Morrowyn> KrakensDen, thanks, ill look into that
[09:52] <NickGarvey> daurn|laptop: (with sudo)
[09:52] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, if you look for any basic linux C++ tutorials
[09:52] <mcrandello> if it's simply a deleted partition it may be able to recover it outright
[09:52] <meathead_> marie: video card documentation is HUGE on the forums, search there for your model number and you'll probably get step by step instructions
[09:52] <Morrowyn> daurn|laptop, type: on the console:   id
[09:52] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, they should have what you're looking ofr
[09:52] <KrakensDen> for
[09:52] <scheuri> daurn|laptop: you user has an ID...
[09:53] <orbish> Anubuntu: shareware for the mac... best thing i could find
[09:53] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, or UNIX, for that matter
[09:53] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, or Mac C++
[09:53] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, well, OS X C++
[09:53] <Morrowyn> :) ok
[09:53] <Morrowyn> pthreads
[09:53] <marie> meathead_, this apears in the file but doesnt make much sense as my card is PCI not ISA.... (II) Primary Device is: ISA (EE) No devices detected."
[09:53] <daurn|laptop> NickGarvey: i get error when browing: "You do not have the permissionns necessay to view the contents of "Storage"
[09:53] <Morrowyn> and for sockets, you happen to know?
[09:53] <NickGarvey> daurn|laptop: even when you do that?
[09:53] <marie> meathead_, following step by step instructions is how I've gotten here :)
[09:54] <KrakensDen> not off the top of my head
[09:54] <Lattyware> I had a problem with RAM, got a Memtest error, so I asked here, and was reccommended to re-seat the RAM, which I did, now X will not start with a 'No Screens' error. The config file is fine.
[09:54] <mcrandello> Anubuntu: See if it isn't already on the slax disc if not I remember either knoppix or bartpe came with it
[09:54] <KrakensDen> but it came from Unix
[09:54] <JoseStefan> nrdb, try searching the ubuntuforums
[09:54] <NickGarvey> actually, whats the command to see what user ID you are?  I know you can "cat /etc/passwd | grep $USER", but is there a way you don't need root?
[09:54] <Anubuntu> orbish: mac is useless considering its an imac, and cant open it up
[09:54] <daurn|laptop> scheuri: how do i find my users id?
[09:54] <KrakensDen> so I would imagine it's fairly basic :P
[09:54] <orbish> damn
[09:54] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > Lattyware
[09:54] <macd> has anyone had an issue with todays xserver-xorg upgrade?
[09:54] <Anubuntu> orbish, but i am going to try mcrandello's link, hopefully it will install with slax bootable
[09:54] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > macd
[09:54] <macd> it didnt ask but replaced my xorg.0.conf
[09:54] <macd> thx.
[09:54] <KrakensDen> macd, yes
[09:54] <Lattyware> ah, coincedence.
[09:54] <scheuri> daurn|laptop: as Morrowyn suggested...type "id" in your console
[09:54] <Lattyware> Thanks.
[09:54] <orbish> Anubuntu, alright, good luck
[09:55] <scheuri> daurn|laptop: the number with your username in () is your username-ID
[09:55] <Morrowyn> daurn|laptop, type in "id"  on the command lline and then you see something like uid=anumber (yourusername)
[09:55] <dibblego> can I open a nautilus window with the directory of a terminal?
[09:55] <Morrowyn> use
[09:55] <daurn|laptop> ok
[09:55] <NickGarvey> ah, id
[09:55] <NickGarvey> nice
[09:55] <daurn|laptop> now i get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock"
[09:55] <Morrowyn> that anumber in  sudo mount -o uid=anumber  /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage
[09:55] <daurn|laptop> its 1000
[09:55] <daurn|laptop> :P
[09:55] <Morrowyn> -t ntfs
[09:55] <scheuri> I am wondering how many people asked here because of their broken xserver-xorg-core....;)
[09:55] <Morrowyn> if its a windows partitition
[09:56] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: :(
[09:56] <JoseStefan> dibblego, you can open a terminal from a nautilus window :D   never down it the other way around
[09:56] <KrakensDen> scheuri, lots
[09:56] <orbish> i'm in the process of breaking mine, i'll be back once automatix is done
[09:56] <daurn|laptop> Morrowyn: still same error
[09:56] <SillyZ> NickGarvey, I think ill just do a 20gb partition on the tail end of the 80gb drive and call it good, should be more than enough room for unbuntu/xubuntu and still room to grow a bit
[09:56] <Lattyware> Now I have to somehow run up and downstairs trying to type that in, fun fun fun!
[09:56] <daurn|laptop> does ubuntu COME with KVirc?
[09:56] <mcrandello> wait, there's a new xserver?
[09:56] <scheuri> KrakensDen: can imaging...had the same problem...was quite shocked this morning...however, there is a good post in the forums
[09:56] <mcrandello> ruh roh
[09:56] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: yeah, and you should be able to resize the ntfs end part right?
[09:57] <Morrowyn> sudo apt-get install kvirc , perhaps?
[09:57] <NickGarvey> SillyZ: (AFTER you defrag)
[09:57] <NickGarvey> mcrandello: no
[09:57] <Morrowyn> it comes with xchat on default
[09:57] <NickGarvey> mcrandello: do NOT update!
[09:57] <Lattyware> Plus when I am at Bash, I allways get loads of 'Key not mapped' errors :/
[09:57] <acke> hey how do i reconfigure xserver? i tried with sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but that only allowed me to reconfigure resolution. my error with the xserver is that "no screens found". I got the error after updaging xserver yesterday.
[09:57] <mcrandello> NickGarvey: :)
[09:57] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, as a terminally helpful person: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue74/tougher.html  and  http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sockpit/index.html
[09:57] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > acke
[09:57] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, the first is a basic how-to
[09:57] <KrakensDen> Morrowyn, the second is what the url says it is
[09:57] <Morrowyn> thanks a lot KrakensDen
[09:57] <scheuri> acke: the package you downloaded and installed yesterday is broken, one way is to downgrad it again...
[09:57] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:58] <daurn|laptop> Morrowyn: Couldn't find package kvirc
[09:58] <KrakensDen> happy to help :P
[09:58] <Lattyware> The testing was done so well on this, wasn't it...
[09:58] <daurn|laptop> is it case sensitive?
[09:58] <daurn|laptop> ARG - lost in backlog
[09:58] <acke> scheuri, to do a apt-get update brokenpackage?
[09:58] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: hehe, yeah, big mistake
[09:58] <JoseStefan> !info kvirc
[09:58] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB
[09:58] <scheuri> !xorgbug > acke
[09:58] <scheuri> !xorgbug > scheuri
[09:58] <Lattyware> The annoying thing was, it happened at the same time as my RAM failing.
[09:59] <Lattyware> Fun day for me.
[09:59] <ali1234> Morrowyn: i recommend using a portable wrapper that takes care of threading and sockets, eg wxWidgets or SDl + SDL_net depending on the project
[09:59] <daurn|laptop> JoseStefan?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: you know command line?
[09:59] <acke> !xorgbug
[09:59] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[09:59] <Morrowyn> well just wanna stick to linux
[09:59] <KrakensDen> ali1234, he explicitly asked for a linux substitute though
[09:59] <Morrowyn> no need to port it
[09:59] <Lattyware> NickGarvey: What?
[09:59] <ali1234> well, they both work on linux :)
[09:59] <KrakensDen> ali1234, and it's pretty portable
[09:59] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: can you use the command line?
[09:59] <Morrowyn> but thanks for the tip
[09:59] <JoseStefan> daurn|laptop, try finding the package in synaptics, you might need to add repositories
[09:59] <Morrowyn> im off
[10:00] <Lattyware> Yeah, I can
[10:00] <Morrowyn> cya all and thanks for the help
[10:00] <KrakensDen> ali1234, the socket stuff should work on everything but windows :P
[10:00] <NickGarvey> eh, not so bad then
[10:00] <scheuri> cya
[10:00] <Flannel> daurn|laptop: yes, it's case sensitive, and yes, you need to add universe.
[10:00] <Gun_Smoke> 1
[10:00] <daurn|laptop> UNIVERSE???
[10:00] <Flannel> !tell daurn|laptop about universe
[10:00] <daurn|laptop> i'm lost
[10:00] <dio> check
[10:00] <scheuri> daurn|laptop: aye, the whole universe...;)
[10:00] <JoseStefan> !universe > daurn|laptop
[10:00] <Flannel> daurn|laptop: read the links ubotu sent you
[10:00] <nrdb> JoseStefan: it appears that a "dpgk-reconfigure gdm" has fixed the problem.  why "gdm" I got no idea.
[10:00] <acke> scheuri: should i do reinstall? im stuck in terminal so i am a bit lost without all the guis
[10:01] <daurn|laptop> arg
[10:01] <daurn|laptop> i need a channel with less people
[10:01] <Lattyware> !triggers > everyone. Fact. :P
[10:01] <daurn|laptop> too busy here
[10:01] <Flannel> daurn|laptop: #ubuntu-classroom
[10:01] <scheuri> acke...no no...NO reinstall...there is nearly NEVER a reason to reinstall linux
[10:01] <scheuri> acke...you need to downgrad this particular package which is broken...
[10:01] <ali1234> scheuri: good reson #1: reiserfs ate your root partition
[10:01] <bvoege2g> hello! i?ve got a staNge problem. i caNt write a small "N" at the KDE desktop adNd i the shell. oN the logoN-screeN everythig is fiNe
[10:02] <Lattyware> acke: Just do 'wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'
[10:02] <dibblego> what's the command to format a disk?
[10:02] <Lattyware> fdisk
[10:02] <Flannel> bvoege2g: try #kubuntu
[10:02] <dibblego> ta
[10:02] <ali1234> dibblego: no, that's for partitioning
[10:02] <scheuri> ali1234: well, okay...but that also means that you can't access anything again...that is quite bad
[10:02] <scheuri> acke: gimme a second
[10:02] <Lattyware> I should really leave it to the people that know :/
[10:02] <acke> scheuri: k
[10:02] <ali1234> dibblego: to format, it depends what filesystem you want
[10:02] <scheuri> acke: try the forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957
[10:02] <dibblego> ali1234, ext3
[10:03] <scheuri> acke: the 4th post or so says how to downgrad on the console
[10:03] <ali1234> dibblego: then it's mke2fs -J
[10:03] <JoseStefan> you need to re-install linux after taking your lappy on that scuba diving trip
[10:03] <acke> Lattyware: yeah thanks. It will take some time to rewrite that from the command line, im at now
[10:03] <Lattyware> acke: yeah, I know.
[10:03] <acke> scheuri: yeah so i use lynx to go there right?
[10:03] <Lattyware> I'm on a PC downstairs, and I gotta go upstairs to type it :/
[10:03] <scheuri> acke: uuhh...sorry....heh...I will write it down for you
[10:04] <Flannel> acke: no, wget can grab it
[10:04] <POVaddct> acke: use w3m. way better than lynx.
[10:04] <scheuri> acke:  "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[10:04] <POVaddct> acke: if you just want to download one file, wget is the better choice
[10:04] <JoseStefan> acke, doing the wget and restarting should be enough
[10:04] <swarm> lynx supports torrents :P
[10:04] <x81> im using ubuntu 6.06 and i replaced firefox with konqueror. how do i modify the globe icon at the top that when i click it it would launch konqueror?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> x81: right click > properties
[10:05] <swarm> Eclipse_GSX, I own a '91... 472awhp :)
[10:05] <JoseStefan> acke, this will work too:   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[10:05] <Lattyware> x81: You sir, are an idiot. (Heh, Just a Konqueror hater, don't mind me :P)
[10:05] <Eclipse_GSX> holla
[10:05] <swarm> and a '97 TSi AWD with a 6bolt swap and a 50trim :)
[10:05] <Eclipse_GSX> dam u did the swap eh
[10:05] <Eclipse_GSX> only way to go nowdays
[10:05] <swarm> yup :)
[10:05] <ali1234> x81: if you have an icon for konq in your gnome menu somewhere you can just drag and drop it
[10:05] <x81> well, firefox doesn't seem to support javascript
[10:05] <Lattyware> ... It does.
[10:05] <swarm> 2.3l, 50trim, dsmlink
[10:05] <JoseStefan> firefox supports javascript
[10:06] <NickGarvey> x81: it definitly does
[10:06] <swarm> and the obvious mods, fmic, fuel, etc :P
[10:06] <nrdb> with the broken xserver package how will I know when it is safe to upgrade again?
[10:06] <Lattyware> Trust me. It's the fastest Javascript parsing of any browser.
[10:06] <Lattyware> Only place it beats opera in speed.
[10:06] <JoseStefan> nrdb, when version doesnt end in "10.3" you could "retry"
[10:06] <acke> JoseStefan: thanks
[10:06] <swarm> what year is yours, Eclipse_GSX ?
[10:06] <x81> well it doesn't work on the webpage i made, and konqueror works jst fine.
[10:06] <ali1234> nrdb: wait for the message to disappear from the topic of this channel :)
[10:06] <Kzarik> why hasnt someone pulled the fubar'd update yet ?
[10:07] <orbish> Lattyware: are you saying opera is faster than firefox?
[10:07] <x81> anyways, what do i change in the properties?
[10:07] <nrdb> JoseStefan: ok, did you see my message to you, about gdm?
[10:07] <JoseStefan> firefox is very strict with javascript though, and unfortunetly most webpages are not written in compliance with standards
[10:07] <JoseStefan> nrdb, yes
[10:07] <ali1234> x81: change command: firefox %u to konqueror %u
[10:08] <JoseStefan> Kzarik, good question
[10:08] <x81> ok. thanks man
[10:08] <Vide80> is there a way to do a clean ubuntu reinstall over an installed one (same version, Dapper) without losing data?
[10:09] <x81> wait, it says access denied
[10:09] <NickGarvey> Vide80: I suggest backing up /home, thats where most of your files are
[10:09] <NickGarvey> Vide80: I have /home on a seperate partition for that reason
[10:09] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, sometimes /home is not all
[10:09] <acke> haha irc on the commandline shows topic then 725 names of ppls in channel then what ppls say. so i never saw the topic. sry
[10:09] <Vide80> well, the fact is that's a server that's going crazy and there's no way to debug it
[10:10] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: I well for most of your users config files it is
[10:10] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: but like /etc for system config and stuff, but I find /home does it for most situations
[10:10] <Anubuntu> mcrandello, if your still here, it appears to be working. Thank you so much
[10:10] <NickGarvey> acke: type "/topic"
[10:10] <swarm> oh holy crap
[10:10] <swarm> i didn't realize how many people were in here
[10:10] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, i have most of my LAMP settings in /etc
[10:10] <Vide80> the scsi raid controller (a perc one) only works with a single kernel revision
[10:10] <Vide80> 2.6.15-23
[10:11] <orbish> Anubuntu: what boot disk did you use, for future reference
[10:11] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: hehe, I have all my lamp settings in /etc
[10:11] <meathead_> fyrestrtr: you there?
[10:11] <Vide80> and now, after most recent dist-upgrade, it locks on kernel event manager
[10:11] <Anubuntu> mcrandello, Slax, although I wouldnt recommend it.. its kind of.. not good. but it was the only thing I had lying around
[10:11] <Anubuntu> *orbish, Slax, although I wouldnt recommend it.. its kind of.. not good. but it was the only thing I had lying around
[10:12] <orbish> right on, thanks
[10:12] <ocjeunesse> bonjour
[10:12] <NickGarvey> !fr
[10:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:13] <ocjeunesse> oui
[10:13] <|thunder> doh
[10:14] <acke> JoseStefan: thank you so much, xserver is back up running
[10:14] <JoseStefan> acke, np
[10:14] <Vide80> so, isn't there a wa to do a clean reinstall?
[10:14] <JoseStefan> acke, make sure to keep an eye open for that particular package, avoid the one ending in 10.3 but update when a newer one comes out
[10:14] <xrenex> hi, is someone good at preseeding?
[10:15] <Lattyware> :D Got X working again. Gotta love #ubuntu.
[10:15] <meathead_> fyrestrtr: you there anymore man?
[10:15] <ali1234> Vide80: why do you want to reinstall? there is probably a much easier way to solve the problem
[10:15] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: :)
[10:15] <JoseStefan> Vide80, you should try and find a backup guide
[10:15] <acke> JoseStefan: okay. im rebooting. but i might be back. cheers
[10:16] <acke> exit
[10:16] <Lattyware> Thanks, I'll be back on my proper machine...
[10:16] <Vide80> ali1234: if you can show me the way, when it hangs on kernel event manager starting...
[10:16] <acke> huum how do i kill irc from inside irc?
[10:16] <acke> ..
[10:16] <Vide80> even on safe mode
[10:16] <swarm> what's the command to check free hd space?
[10:16] <xrenex> everything works fine but the  "Download language support" question popsup everytime
[10:16] <homerh_h> morning ppl i need some help screwed my system lastnight
[10:16] <POVaddct> swarm: df
[10:17] <Vide80> well, in safe mode with a couple of ctrl+c I can get to a prompt
[10:17] <swarm> ty
[10:17] <JoseStefan> acke, usually /exit or /quit
[10:17] <Vide80> but a simple ls -l freezes the machine
[10:17] <orbish> PART breaking linux
[10:17] <Gun_Smoke1> 1
[10:17] <xrenex> i searchthe net but didn't find anything
[10:17] <Vide80> is something kernel related, I'm sure
[10:17] <Lattyware> Now, I have removed one of my RAM sticks, hoepfully, this one has no errors...
[10:17] <ali1234> Vide80: yes probably
[10:17] <Vide80> but after a clean install I had a working machine
[10:18] <ali1234> Vide80: when did it start not working?
[10:18] <JoseStefan> Lattywar, i suggest you run memtest overnight
[10:18] <Vide80> but after some dist-upgrade for bug-fixing
[10:18] <JoseStefan> Lattyware*
[10:18] <ali1234> Vide80: ah
[10:18] <Vide80> the problem is very strange
[10:18] <meathead_> anyone here know how to configure Ubuntu Center/iCenter X
[10:18] <linux_user400354> can someone please help with installing vmware?
[10:18] <homerh_h> i thinki splashy is causing my gdm ,then the system tryed to boot into gmd just after the nvidia screen gray checked one it come up with "the greater application appers to be crashing attempting to use a diffrent one
[10:18] <Vide80> in fact, with this machine scsi raid controller
[10:18] <JoseStefan> Vide80, i think there is a way to repair/reinstall all packages, not sure
[10:18] <Vide80> a perc one
[10:18] <Lattyware> JoseStefan: Well, I ran it for about 30 seconds and found and error.
[10:18] <Vide80> it works only a single revision of kernel
[10:19] <Vide80> 2.6.15-23
[10:19] <Lattyware> I'm going to replace it with 1GB of RAM anyway.
[10:19] <DShepherd> is there an ubuntu skin for opera?
[10:19] <Vide80> newer ones (-26 for example) don't even boot
[10:19] <Lattyware> But for the moment, this will do.
[10:19] <Vide80> well, they can't find the disk
[10:19] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, you might want to confirm bios timings and voltages for your ram, from the manufacturer website
[10:19] <Vide80> they detect the controller, but not the attached disk
[10:19] <linux_user400354> will someone please look at this and correct me? i must be doing something wrong. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&page=47
[10:19] <Vide80> and even with knoppix, gentoo livecd and other with 2.6.17
[10:20] <Vide80> it doesn't work
[10:20] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, you might also want to check your PSU rails, either manually with a voltmeter, or using software
[10:20] <Lattyware> yeah...
[10:20] <ardchoille> Wow, I tell ya.. running Firefox in fluxbox makes ff fly :)
[10:20] <ali1234> Vide80: so you can't mount any drives on the machine currently?
[10:20] <Lattyware> heh, fluxbox is cool
[10:20] <Lattyware> I run it on my Xbox
[10:20] <Vide80> so, the only way I have is to try to revert it back to a clean 6.06 installation and DO NOT touch anything
[10:20] <Vide80> no
[10:20] <Anubuntu> Hello
[10:20] <Vide80> maybe I could try with a ubuntu desktop live cd
[10:20] <ali1234> Vide80: what you need to do is make a bootdisk with your known kernel version on it
[10:21] <ali1234> yes, the desktop livecd is probably a good choice :)
[10:21] <forbidden_fruit> I'm getting this error on Konversation: [DCOP]  Error: Could not execute script "/home/aarohi/38231-amarok.pl". Check file permissions.
[10:21] <Vide80> anyway all I need is /etc
[10:21] <forbidden_fruit> The file HAS the correct permissions set, I just can't figure out what the prob is
[10:21] <Vide80> it's not a production server
[10:21] <ali1234> Vide80: after booting it, chroot to mount your HD and chroot to the root partition, then use apt to downgrade the kernel version
[10:21] <Vide80> well, it sould be in the next days
[10:22] <Vide80> luckily the problem came out before :)
[10:22] <Vide80> ali1234: do you know what "kernel event system" step does in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <Vide80> only kernel related things?
[10:22] <Lattyware> 256 of ram is slow...
[10:22] <JoseStefan> Vide80, you dont have to reinstall to downgrade
[10:23] <Vide80> JoseStefan: I can't even get network connectivity
[10:23] <Vide80> how can I downgrade?
[10:23] <Vide80> mmmh...
[10:23] <JoseStefan> Vide80, you can use the install cd as source
[10:23] <ali1234> Vide80: no idea, but the last thing on the ubuntu startup list is not usually a good indication of the problem if you have a serious hardware problem
[10:23] <Vide80> maybe using ubuntu 6.06 cd as repository..
[10:24] <swarm> my little "update" bix thing keeps coming up, asking me to update :P
[10:24] <Vide80> ok, lets see if I can mount it with the rescue prompt..
[10:24] <MorphDK> When will the bug be fixed?
[10:24] <Vide80> wait a minute
[10:24] <Anubuntu> does anyone here know how to recover a deleted filesystem with TestDisk?
[10:25] <JoseStefan> MorphDK, they maintainer is probably sleeping
[10:25] <MorphDK> JoseStefan, nice.. :/
[10:25] <JoseStefan> just my guess
[10:25] <ali1234> Anubuntu: define "deleted filesystem"
[10:25] <Lattyware> Yeah, the update thing is going to annoy me,
[10:26] <Anubuntu> ali1234: as in, I formatted the wrong partition and erased ubuntu
[10:26] <JoseStefan> if you lock version in synaptics, it doesnt show
[10:26] <PyroManiak> Help! I let ubuntu auto-update, and now my xserver wont start
[10:26] <JoseStefan> ...but you wont get a notice when the problem is finally fixed
[10:26] <Lattyware> !xorgbug > PyroManiak
[10:27] <PyroManiak> Lattyware what?
[10:27] <ali1234> Anubuntu: then, i don't know. sorry :(
[10:27] <JoseStefan> PyroManiak, read the msg you got from ubotu
[10:27] <Lattyware> PyroManiak: Check your queries.
[10:27] <Anubuntu> ali1234: although I dont think it completly wiped the disk, because it quite simply didnt take long enough
[10:27] <swarm> !xorgbug > swarm
[10:27] <JoseStefan> is ubotu flood safe?
[10:28] <PyroManiak> Lattyware is my problem common?
[10:28] <meathead_> if you don't chown a file, does locate work on it?
[10:28] <Lattyware> PyroManiak: It's a problem with the latest update
[10:28] <swarm> PyroManiak, ,very
[10:28] <meathead_> err, no chown, own
[10:28] <Lattyware> Everyone has it :'(
[10:28] <JoseStefan> in a "funnel" target-wise point of view ?
[10:28] <PyroManiak> oh wow... thats horrible.. heh.. well, atleast I know I didn't break it =P
[10:29] <mcbuddha> hi all!
[10:29] <Lattyware> yeah, I had another problem, and spent ages trying to fix it thinking they were related :/
[10:29] <JoseStefan> is ubotu flood safe, in a "funnel" (target-wise) point of view ?
[10:30] <swarm> Lattyware, that sucks :P
[10:30] <Vide80> JoseStefan: I have booted with a rescue prompt
[10:30] <JoseStefan> example: someone asks something, and multiple people use the !tell feature (or pipe) to help that person, at the same time
[10:30] <mcbuddha> anybody knows what does the live cd installer do at 39%? cause it fails everytime it gets there.
[10:30] <Vide80> inserted the cd
[10:30] <Lattyware> It'd probably help people if someone set up a redirection to that page, with a short url that wget would support... could you do it with PHP redirection?
[10:30] <tapox> Hi everyone. I need to solve a wifi card issue within four hours, or else I won't have a connection for two weeks.
[10:30] <Vide80> commented out /etc/apt/sources.list internet repos
[10:30] <Vide80> done a apt-get update
[10:30] <Vide80> but it gives me an error
[10:31] <ali1234> tapox: lol. what is the issue? and what card?
[10:31] <Vide80> it doesn't recognize cdrom as a repo
[10:31] <tapox> It's a linksys, bcm43xx chipset. The kernel seems to have the driver loaded and ready, but when I do iwconfig eth1 it shows the access point as being 'Invalid', attempts to change the AP to any, off, or a specific number don't do anything
[10:32] <JoseStefan> Vide80, i've never used cdrom as repo, could you have a typo on your sources.list ?
[10:32] <Lattyware> !xorgbug > Lattyware
[10:32] <PyroManiak> Lattyware: is this i386 file ok when I'm using the p3 optimized kernel?
[10:33] <ali1234> tapox: okay sounds like you have either not configured your secutiry properly for the AP or you have an incompatibility between the card and the AP
[10:33] <JoseStefan> PyroManiak, should be fine
[10:33] <afief> how can i recursively change the owner of a folder and old subfolders/files?
[10:33] <Lattyware> PyroManiak: Don't know, I'm not an expert I'm afraid, someone else will know.
[10:33] <Suplyndmnd> Well, LiveCD Works :)
[10:33] <JoseStefan> !chown > afief
[10:33] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: try /msg ubotu xorgbug
[10:33] <Vide80> JoseStefan: I have the default repo line
[10:33] <Vide80> let's google a bit..
[10:33] <tapox> ali1234: I don't have security on my AP, it's open. And the router is a linksys as well. I actually had this same setup working before I nuked Ubuntu and later reinstalled it.
[10:33] <Lattyware> NickGarvey: Yeah, I know, I just wanted to see what it was again, I've alllready fixed mine
[10:34] <Suplyndmnd> Installing this wasn't as easy as I thought it would be :(
[10:34] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: okie
[10:34] <JoseStefan> afief, try man chown, you will need the -R option
[10:34] <ali1234> tapox: okay, if it's open, then that is definately not the problem. open always works. i was about to recommend trying it like that
[10:34] <NickGarvey> afief: yeah, its just chown -R user:group /dir
[10:34] <afief> JoseStefan, okay, although ubotu gave me the description for CLI
[10:35] <mcbuddha> Hi everyone! the 6.06.1 live cd installer fails at 39%. i don't have an idea what's the problem. does anyone know what does it do at 39%?
[10:35] <JoseStefan> afief, i dont know how to do it in X. btw, you will need sudo with that
[10:36] <NickGarvey> mcbuddha: what does it say on the screen other than 39%?
[10:36] <afief> JoseStefan, i prefer CLI:)
[10:36] <JoseStefan> afief, you will need the -R option of chown
[10:36] <JoseStefan> afief, try: man chown
[10:36] <afief> JoseStefan, done:) it's all changed
[10:37] <JoseStefan> np
[10:37] <afief> thanks guys
[10:37] <mcbuddha> NickGarvey: nothing. X freeze, only the cursor moves. ctrl+alt+backspace -> everything disappears except the background and the cursor
[10:37] <ali1234> tapox: it's a tricky one alright. can you get it working with any livecd?
[10:38] <NickGarvey> mcbuddha: have you tried the alternate cd? I find that more reliable
[10:38] <PyroManiak> Lattyware: Thanks so much.. X is back... is there anything I should do? or not do now? (like let it update again)
[10:38] <Lattyware> If anyone is interested, if you want to type less to downgrade, you can use 'wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' (It uses a PHP redirect, not a mirrored file).
[10:38] <JoseStefan> mcbuddha, you could always try the alternate install cd, but there must be an easier solution
[10:38] <Lattyware> PyroManiak: Just don't update
[10:38] <think> Hi all
[10:38] <Lattyware> Until you get the go-ahead from here :D
[10:38] <Guard] [an> hi
[10:38] <tapox> ali1234: Nope. I think the broadcom driver made it into the kernel in 6.06.1 Before that, it wouldn't work, and I had to run a program called bcm43xx-fwcutter to drop the drivers in /lib/firmware
[10:39] <JoseStefan> PyroManiak, wait for a version newer than the one that ends with "10.3"
[10:39] <Guard] [an> not so ubuntu related but, is there a way to search multiple buffers in vim ?
[10:39] <PyroManiak> Lattyware: thanks again
[10:39] <PyroManiak> JoseStefan: Thank you too :] 
[10:39] <think> can someone help me out need some help (linux Newbie)
[10:39] <NickGarvey> think: what can we do?
[10:39] <Lattyware> PyroManiak: Not at all, I'm just someone who went through the same thing :P
[10:39] <Vide80> JoseStefan: ok, done
[10:39] <Vide80> i have the cdrom as a repo
[10:39] <Vide80> now, how to downgrade?
[10:39] <Suplyndmnd> Do you guys not get tired of noobs like me and think?
[10:39] <Vide80> ali1234: if you have any idea too....:)
[10:40] <JoseStefan> Vide80 do you want to downgrade specific packages or all?
[10:40] <homerh_h> hiya how do you from the terminal edit the session startup programs
[10:40] <think> i installed ubuntu now restart my computer and he says no boot sector found
[10:40] <sarikan> is it possible to run two instances of xorg one with xgl on top of it, and other on a second virtual console and destkop session?
[10:40] <esci> hi
[10:40] <swarm> Suplyndmnd, without noobs, where would any linux distros be?
[10:40] <ardchoille> Suplyndmnd: Actually, this channel if specifically for helping folks.. whether they are noobs or veterans :)
[10:40] <mcbuddha> NickGarvey, JoseStefan: downloading it right now. but that is not a solution. on the CD all checksums are right, had several older ubuntu/kubuntu on this machine.
[10:40] <esci> is there any app to manage system services?
[10:40] <Suplyndmnd> very true
[10:40] <NickGarvey> mcbuddha: I find the alternate cd much more reliable
[10:40] <ali1234> tapox: it sounds as if before when it worked you used the firmware from the windows drivers? ie the proprietry firmware, but now you are using a totally different open source one?
[10:41] <think> NickGarvey i installed ubuntu now restart my computer and he says no boot sector found
[10:41] <tapox> ali1234: Yep.
[10:41] <Vide80> JoseStefan: since i don't know what specific package may be the problem, i think all is the best solution
[10:41] <JoseStefan> Vide80, you can downgrade specific packages using =version
[10:41] <qsrv> hi
[10:41] <JoseStefan> Vide80, dont know about ALL
[10:41] <usuario> server irc.arrakis.es
[10:41] <Suplyndmnd> Do you have to install a plugin to be able to read FAT32 drives?
[10:41] <mRCUTEO> anyone knows how to use "screen" to keep process running 24/7 in ubuntu ?
[10:42] <ardchoille> mRCUTEO: I do that with irssi :)
[10:42] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: nope, just mount them
[10:42] <JoseStefan> Vide80, you can also downgrade using using the "/dapper" suffix, but dont know how that would work with cdrom repo
[10:42] <Suplyndmnd> Do I have to buy it dinner first? :)
[10:42] <swarm> mRCUTEO, screen commandname
[10:42] <Vide80> JoseStefan: more in details?
[10:42] <swarm> then to bring it back, screen -r
[10:42] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, not sure how to mount them.
[10:42] <ali1234> tapox: so perhaps you should continue to use the proprietry one (and try the open source one periodcally to see if it works)
[10:42] <JoseStefan> Vide80, example, downgrading xserver-xorg-core:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[10:43] <think> NickGarvey : the harddrive wont boot after installing ubuntu
[10:43] <mRCUTEO> swarm: i got problem : Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. when running screen.
[10:43] <tapox> ali1234: But I'm not sure if the kernel will let me override its built in drivers
[10:43] <JoseStefan> Vide80, if you know the version #, you could use "=version" instead
[10:43] <mcbuddha> NickGarvey: alright. i will try it. if i won't come back here today, than thanks, it works.
[10:44] <swarm> mRCUTEO, no idea - it works for me.. i'm a n00b so sorry, i am not of much help
[10:44] <mRCUTEO> ok..
[10:44] <ali1234> tapox: it should be possible to disable the kernel driver
[10:44] <Vide80> JoseStefan: the problem is that the kernel working version is still there
[10:44] <swarm> mRCUTEO, what command are u giving it?
[10:44] <Vide80> but probably there some other package that breaks the machine
[10:44] <JoseStefan> Vide80, maybe you could play with apt_preferences, and make all dapper-updates packages have less priority
[10:44] <ali1234> tapox: did you use ndiswrapper with the old version? or kernel driver + copied firmware?
[10:45] <Teltariat> I'm sure you guys have heard by now that the latest xserver-xorg-core update breaks a working xorg setup?  This happen to me on a fresh 6.06 installation.  I received an update notification, the update icon appeared, and in the list was xserver.  Did the upgrade, rebooted, and POW, xserver don't work no more.
[10:45] <mRCUTEO> swarm: user@216:~/development/planeshift$ screen ./psserver
[10:45] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: "sudo fdisk -l" to find which is the fat32
[10:45] <tapox> ali1234: copied firmware route.
[10:45] <Lattyware> Teltariat: It's a problem well know
[10:45] <Lattyware> *known
[10:45] <swarm> mRCUTEO, screen psserver
[10:45] <Lattyware> !xorgbug > Teltariat
[10:45] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: then "sudo mkdir /mnt/fat32 && mount /dev/hd? /mnt/fat32"
[10:45] <Teltariat> Thanks LAttyware.
[10:45] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: but change the hd? to what it actually is
[10:45] <mRCUTEO> swarm: okie
[10:45] <Lattyware> NP.
[10:45] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: and in the future, drop the mkdir /mnt/fat32 part
[10:46] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: and.. you need a sudo infront of mount /dev/hd?
[10:46] <Suplyndmnd> I haven't installed yet
[10:46] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: oh :)
[10:46] <Suplyndmnd> I'm having issues with it
[10:46] <ali1234> tapox: best bet is to downgrade kernel version then... unless it was a really old kernel
[10:46] <Suplyndmnd> I cant get it to auto partition (errors) so I was trying to do it in GParted.  But it wont do anything in there
[10:47] <linux_user400354> HAS ANYONE INSTALLED VMWARE SERVER IN UBUNTU WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS?
[10:47] <Lattyware> linux_user400354: Caps off.
[10:47] <JoseStefan> !shout
[10:47] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:47] <swarm> linux_user400354, i have
[10:47] <bhenry> What's a good terminal tex editor?
[10:47] <Lattyware> Nano
[10:47] <swarm> pico! :)
[10:47] <tapox> nano
[10:47] <JoseStefan> bhenry, i use vi
[10:47] <NickGarvey> vi ftw!
[10:47] <NickGarvey> well, vim
[10:47] <meathead_> someone know a quick and easy way to set an alarm from console maybe
[10:47] <meathead_> or in base ubuntu
[10:47] <meathead_> that will play a song
[10:48] <meathead_> or just some beeping
[10:48] <meathead_> to wake me up
[10:48] <linux_user400354> swarm: maybe you can solve this problem. look at the very bottom posts on this forum. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&page=47
[10:48] <ali1234> tapox: i mean if you want to get it working fast. ideally you want to get the newer driver working of course
[10:48] <Suplyndmnd> Walmart has clocks for like 5.99 :)
[10:48] <bhenry> thanks!
[10:48] <NickGarvey> meathead_: theres something called kalarm I used
[10:48] <JoseStefan> lol
[10:48] <PyroManiak> back in happy linux land... ahhhh
[10:48] <meathead_> good for walmart
[10:48] <JoseStefan> Suplyndmnd, does wallmart have open source clocks?
[10:48] <meathead_> kalarm is for... Kubuntu?
[10:48] <Suplyndmnd> ..... maybe, i didn't read up on it
[10:49] <NickGarvey> meathead_: yup :(
[10:49] <meathead_> that doesn't help
[10:49] <swarm> how big is this xorg-core update?
[10:49] <ali1234> meathead_: for the console: man at
[10:49] <meathead_> I said ubuntu
[10:49] <meathead_> so you've all got smart answers, but no one can help?
[10:49] <JoseStefan> cant you run kde packages on gnome?
[10:49] <nekostar> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo weiird
[10:49] <ardchoille> JoseStefan: yes
[10:49] <NickGarvey> meathead_: it should still work in gnome, just might need some extra libraries
[10:49] <nekostar> JoseStefan: yes most
[10:49] <linux_user400354> didnt know clocks run software. what the hell is open source clocks at walmart.
[10:49] <nekostar> mm
[10:49] <JoseStefan> i think i have some kde games be default on ubuntu
[10:49] <nekostar> so i installed nvidia-glx etc opon new dapper install
[10:49] <JoseStefan> by*
[10:49] <ali1234> meathead_: what's wrong with at?
[10:49] <nekostar> and did upgrade to new kernel... and now i get X error no screen...
[10:50] <NickGarvey> ali1234: might be to hard to et up
[10:50] <nekostar> any way to build the new module or something ???
[10:50] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > nekostar
[10:50] <nekostar> o:
[10:50] <nekostar> ty
[10:50] <meathead_> ali1234: nothing, that's perfect
[10:50] <meathead_> ali1234: thx thx
[10:50] <JoseStefan> NickGarvey, do you have that on your right click menu?
[10:50] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: haha nope
[10:50] <NickGarvey> I should though ;)
[10:50] <JoseStefan> you always beat me to it
[10:50] <Suplyndmnd> NickGarvey, when I double click Install I get the whole "Where are you" and etc and get to "Prepare disk space".  I choose the drive and "Resize blah blah and use freed space" then "next"  It flashes a few things up REALLY quick then says "Failed to create enough space for installation"
[10:50] <Lattyware> Yes! Just one more DVD left in my burning-spree. 25 DVDs take ages to burn, especially as I did half of them at 1x...
[10:51] <Lattyware> (because of an error.
[10:51] <Lattyware> )
[10:51] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: how much space are you giving it?
[10:51] <Suplyndmnd> Like 50 gigs
[10:51] <meathead_> ali1234: at 2pm beep-media-player /box/music/whatever.mp3?
[10:51] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: should be more than enough
[10:51] <ali1234> meathead_: sounds good
[10:51] <Suplyndmnd> I was hoping so
[10:51] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: heh, unless you are installing the internet
[10:52] <Suplyndmnd> I'm just installing ubuntu! :)
[10:52] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: ok um, hmm.. have you tried partioning with another live cd?
[10:52] <JoseStefan> i want to download the internet someday
[10:52] <Lattyware> I find 450GB very little space really.
[10:52] <NickGarvey> JoseStefan: talk to google, they should have most of it already heh
[10:52] <Lattyware> I need more.
[10:52] <Suplyndmnd> I have not
[10:52] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: I have 40 GB.. grr
[10:52] <talios> anyone know how far off a fixed xorg deb is?
[10:52] <NickGarvey> Suplyndmnd: there is a live cd called "gparted"
[10:52] <Lattyware> Is this on slashdot yet?
[10:52] <swarm> Lattyware, I have 2 x 400gb SATA
[10:53] <Lattyware> swarm: Nice.
[10:53] <NickGarvey> Lattyware:  not yet
[10:53] <Suplyndmnd> I saw that
[10:53] <JoseStefan> you should always defrag before resizeing (and backup too)
[10:53] <meathead_> ali1234: syntax error. Last token seen: b
[10:53] <meathead_> Garbled time
[10:53] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I get an older ubuntu iso? im looking for something pre 6.06, like 6.0 or something
[10:53] <NickGarvey> fdsd: hehe, no such thing
[10:53] <NickGarvey> fdsd: the version number is based on release date
[10:53] <hype> yo here :)
[10:53] <NickGarvey> !breezy
[10:53] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[10:53] <hype> is any special channel for Xgl/compiz?
[10:53] <fdsd> NickGarvey, ok
[10:53] <Teltariat> Thank you, Lattyware.
[10:53] <hype> is there*
[10:53] <NickGarvey> fdsd: 5.10 (october 2005)
[10:54] <JoseStefan> fdsd, why not use the latest release?
[10:54] <DarkMageZ> hype, yes #ubuntu-xgl
[10:54] <fdsd> JoseStefan, usplash is broken
[10:54] <Lattyware> Teltariat: No problem.
[10:54] <hype> cheers DarkMageZ :p
[10:54] <hype> tried with "." :p
[10:54] <fdsd> JoseStefan, im modifing the live cd, so the live cd is very important
[10:54] <ali1234> meathead_: echo 'beep-media-player foo.mp3' | at 2pm
[10:54] <meathead_> I see
[10:54] <meathead_> thanks
[10:54] <ali1234> meathead_: and that will only fire once i think
[10:54] <Madpilot> fdsd, 6.06's LiveCD is vastly improved over Breezy's
[10:55] <fdsd> Madpilot, yes it is
[10:55] <rixth>  * Starting RAID monitoring services...                                                                                            [fail]  << how can I find out why?
[10:55] <rixth> The RAID array itselt is up and working fine
[10:55] <fdsd> Madpilot, is there expermental live cds?
[10:56] <Madpilot> fdsd, of the test version of Ubuntu? I'm not sure, but I don't think so
[10:56] <Suplyndmnd> Holy schnikes.... GParted formats to like 15 different things
[10:56] <meathead_> ali1234: after I type that i get: >
[10:56] <JoseStefan> fdsd, you could probably find dailies
[10:56] <meathead_> it wants me to type!
[10:56] <igorzolnikov> WHY?
[10:56] <hype> btw, whats the file to modifiy to select the souncard used at startup?
[10:56] <ali1234> meathead_: you missed a quote or something
[10:56] <igorzolnikov> I updated Xserver-Xorg... and I can't startx?
[10:57] <fdsd> JoseStefan, where are they?
[10:57] <Suplyndmnd> What format should the drive be that I want to install Ubuntu on?
[10:57] <hype> i just plugged a webcam and now it trys to use webcam as sound card :p
[10:57] <igorzolnikov> It's very bad!!!
[10:57] <JoseStefan> !daily > fdsd
[10:57] <meathead_> ahh shit
[10:57] <meathead_> I put an extra quote
[10:57] <meathead_> you're good
[10:57] <ali1234> Suplyndmnd: it's optional but i recommend ext3
[10:57] <meathead_> thanks man
[10:57] <johnnybezak> man why does hardware recognition still suck so hard
[10:57] <johnnybezak> igorzolnikov: they stuffed up the x server, read the topic
[10:57] <meathead_> job 1 at Tue Aug 22 14:00:00 2006
[10:58] <johnnybezak> !topic
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <JoseStefan> fdsd, NOTE: current development releases is for edgy
[10:58] <Lattyware> igorzolnikov: To fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.
[10:58] <Suplyndmnd> ali, first, nice name :) and secondly, ty
[10:58] <fdsd> JoseStefan, wow thanks
[10:58] <igorzolnikov> OK!!!
[10:58] <Madpilot> fdsd, there are no LiveCDs yet of the Edgy releases, only alternate/install CDs
[10:58] <JoseStefan> fdsd, you could also try edgy knot1 for a more mature version
[10:58] <fdsd> Madpilot, ok
[10:59] <JoseStefan> fdsd, i believe knot1 has a livecd
[10:59] <fdsd> JoseStefan, how do I find the url for that?
[11:00] <JoseStefan> fdsd, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[11:00] <Madpilot> fdsd, actually, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ has daily-build LiveCDs. Expect much interesting breakage!
[11:00] <linux_user400354> UBUNTU IS STUPID
[11:00] <fdsd> Madpilot, lol
[11:01] <protocol1> is there a command that I can use to undo or uninstall what easyubuntu did to my system?
[11:01] <protocol1> I cant get back to X
[11:01] <tapox> How do I reconfigure a package?
[11:01] <Ivanowitch> hmm... is X sure to break if you upgrade, or might it happen?
[11:01] <dibblego> protocol1, read the channel topic
[11:01] <Lattyware> sure to, as far as I know.
[11:01] <JoseStefan> Ivanowitch, surely
[11:02] <Ivanowitch> guess I'll wait upgrading for a day or two then ... :S
[11:02] <JoseStefan> tapox, try: man dpkg-reconfigure
[11:02] <KenSentMe> JoseStefan: my xserver isn't broken
[11:02] <tapox> Oh nm, saw /topic
[11:02] <Suplyndmnd> I gotta be doing something completely stupid
[11:02] <rixth> DBO, si senor?
[11:02] <dibblego> KenSentMe, read the channel topic
[11:02] <meathead_> ali1234: it went in fine, just one problem... it didn't play the mp3!
[11:02] <DBO> #ubuntu-ops please
[11:02] <brianj> anyone else having issues with the recent xorg update?  I can't get X to load on my IBM X31 (ATI)
[11:02] <dibblego> brianj, read the channel topic
[11:02] <KenSentMe> dibblego: i know, but mine isn't broken after the update
[11:03] <hype> same here
[11:03] <hype> just updated (ATI 9600XT)
[11:03] <JoseStefan> KenSentMe, you have restarted yet?
[11:03] <NickGarvey> KenSentMe: don't restart!
[11:03] <brianj> gah! sorry dibblego.  Not used to console IRC and the topic scrolled right by ;)
[11:03] <hype> what???
[11:03] <KenSentMe> NickGarvey: ok, ill downgrade then
[11:03] <Lattyware> brianj:
[11:03] <hype> i just did the update and just restart my Xserver atm :s
[11:03] <Lattyware> To fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/downgrade.php' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.
[11:03] <NickGarvey> brianj: try /topic
[11:03] <mauper> Hi there! One short question - how can I list all available (e.g. older) versions of a package (on cli)
[11:04] <Suplyndmnd> *smacks head on desk*
[11:04] <brianj> yeah, I saw it now.  I just didn't bother checking it before asking.  Thanks for the help
[11:04] <johnnybezak> is that x screw up in dapper or in whatever is dapper+1
[11:04] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: whats the downgrade.php for?
[11:04] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: oh I see, it redirects
[11:04] <Lattyware> NickGarvey: Just a PHP redirect, it redirects to the really long URL
[11:04] <NickGarvey> yup
[11:04] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, i thought you were getting a shorter URL
[11:04] <Lattyware> It's just shorter, I know I would have appreciated not having to type in the entire URL.
[11:05] <Suplyndmnd> It's possible to install Ubuntu in Windows si?
[11:05] <NickGarvey> Lattyware: yup, try "tinyurl.com" though
[11:05] <Lattyware> It is relitivly short.
[11:05] <Lattyware> NickGarvey: I didn't think that would work, as it's META redirection.
[11:05] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, i would prefer http://xorgfix.com/   :P
[11:05] <Lattyware> JoseStefan: Yeah, but I don't own that domain :P
[11:05] <ali1234> meathead_: the only thing i can think of is that beep couldn't open the sound card because it's running in a different process than your current login, and so wasn't able to access the esd or whatever
[11:05] <NickGarvey> sleep time
[11:06] <Suplyndmnd> NIght Nick
[11:06] <ali1234> meathead_: but i've never used beep so i dunno if it has those kind of problems
[11:06] <Suplyndmnd> Can Ubuntu be installed in Windows?
[11:06] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, you dont need PHP though, you could use apache
[11:06] <Lattyware> Yeah, but it was quicker just to upload a page.
[11:06] <toxic_> Can I use grep to match two different words, like hi and ho ?
[11:06] <Lattyware> It's only a single line of PHP.
[11:06] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, save yourself a whole 3 chars :D
[11:07] <ali1234> toxic_: grep '(hi|ho)'
[11:07] <JoseStefan> Lattyware, you could put it in a folder, and use index.php
[11:07] <Lattyware> heh, I guess
[11:07] <toxic_> ali1234, thanks alot :)
[11:07] <lamego> Suplyndmnd, yes, if you use something like vmware, but if you are just planning to test it
[11:07] <tsubasafr> ubuntu as lost my trust in auto update
[11:07] <tom_> Hi: I got an xorg update yesterday, and now X is just failing to start, it says 'no devices found' and in the log file the error occurs right after it lists all the Nvidia chipsets. Any ideas? I've tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg to no avail.
[11:07] <tsubasafr> ubuntu as lost my trust in auto update
[11:07] <gnomefreak> tom_: do updates again
[11:07] <brianj> ahh, fix works.  I'm now in X.  Thanks all :D
[11:07] <meathead_> ali1234: all echo seems to do is display the text "beep-media-player blah.mp3"
[11:07] <tsubasafr> ubuntu put broken package ( Xorg ) in auto update
[11:08] <tsubasafr> ubuntu put broken package ( Xorg ) in auto update
[11:08] <meathead_> echo is supposed to execute the command?
[11:08] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > tom_
[11:08] <tom_> !xorgbug
[11:08] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[11:08] <meathead_> ali1234: echo is supposed to execute the command?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> tsubasafr: as of right now its fixed
[11:08] <hype> xorgbugfix
[11:08] <hype> !xorgbugfix
[11:08] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[11:08] <noodle> hey guys how do i link rm so that rm does rm -i?
[11:09] <lamego> noodle, you create an alias for that
[11:09] <ali1234> toxic_: you need to properly escape that regexp, sorry
[11:09] <dibblego> !xorgbugfix > dibblego
[11:09] <mneptok> noodle: alias rm='rm -i'
[11:09] <hype> .bachrc
[11:09] <hype> in your /home
[11:09] <hype> edit it
[11:09] <noodle> what if im using csh
[11:09] <noodle> :S
[11:09] <ali1234> meathead_: at accepts commands on stdin - echo puts them there
[11:09] <meathead_> ali1234: when I type just "beep-media-player blah.mp3" in console it works fine, could I have missed something that's not making it EXECUTE the command but just echo it back to me?
[11:09] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, the xorg stuff is fixed? I don't see an update yet...
[11:09] <hype> say it before :D
[11:09] <hype> dunno
[11:09] <toxic_> ali1234, ok
[11:10] <rodarvus> hi there
[11:10] <ali1234> meathead_: try the at command thing again, this time type atq afterwards, check the job is correct
[11:10] <noodle> nvm there's a .cshrc
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: i just got a new version
[11:10] <lamego> Madpilot, it is not fixed on the updates yet
[11:10] <avis> hello all
[11:10] <avis> i'm having serious trouble with X server
[11:10] <rodarvus> I've just updated bug 57153
[11:10] <meathead_> meathead@quack:~$ echo "beep-media-player /box/music/Jack\ Johnson/jack\ of\ all\ trades/22\ -\ Acoustic\ Jam\ \(Thicker\ Than\ Water\).mp3"
[11:10] <meathead_> beep-media-player /box/music/Jack\ Johnson/jack\ of\ all\ trades/22\ -\ Acoustic\ Jam\ \(Thicker\ Than\ Water\).mp3
[11:10] <Lattyware> To fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/xorgbug' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.
[11:10] <P_71W> Yeah, so, I installed 6.06 and immediatly it tells me there are upgrades available. One is xserver. I restarted and now xserver is broke.
[11:10] <tsubasafr> i dont trust update system anymore
[11:10] <avis> i'm getting no X servers found after loading nvidia drivers and doing a full update and fresh install.
[11:10] <rodarvus> with two experimental X.Org packages
[11:10] <tsubasafr> i have loose 3 hour in my work
[11:10] <meathead_> without at, instead of DOING the command, it shows me the command...
[11:10] <tsubasafr> with that
[11:10] <lamego> !xorgbug > avis
[11:10] <P_71W> wow, sound farmiliar
[11:10] <rodarvus> one of the two packages is supposed to fix the problem you are experiencing
[11:10] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, hmm, I'll keep hitting reload in Synaptic, I don't want to leave this box running all night but I want it fixed before I turn it off... :|
[11:10] <ali1234> meathead_: yes
[11:10] <gnomefreak> xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3  is in the updates
[11:11] <ali1234> meathead_: that is correct
[11:11] <rodarvus> it would be muchly appreciated if you could test these packages.
[11:11] <Calator> my X broke
[11:11] <mneptok> rodarvus: find someone to /topic that LP URL for you :)
[11:11] <Calator> i justupdated
[11:11] <dibblego> !xorgbugfix > Calator
[11:11] <JoseStefan> 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 is the broken version
[11:11] <avis> age ? thank you lamego however could you tell me how in irssi that i access that private mess
[11:11] <meathead_> so why with | at 2pm on the end, should it do any different?
[11:11] <scapor> is fglrx broken in edgy ?  Seems it doesn't work with the xserver-xorg ABI version ?
[11:11] <avis> message
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: im using the uk mirrors
[11:11] <gnomefreak> JoseStefan: yesterdays version was the broken one as i remember
[11:11] <ali1234> meathead_: because "|" pipes the displayed text into at, which saves it until 2pm then runs it
[11:12] <hype> you think there will ba apatch soon? (better tht downgrade no? )
[11:12] <lamego> avis, what mess ? can't you read the instructions ?
[11:12] <tom_> alright thanks a lot guys
[11:12] <JoseStefan> gnomefreak, 10.3 was broken last time i used it
[11:12] <mneptok> hype: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:12] <avis> lamego i dont know how to read private messages in irssi the only console irc client i've used is ircII
[11:12] <Lattyware> To fix the Xorg bug by downgrading, do 'sudo wget http://www.lattyware.co.uk/xorgbug' then 'sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb'.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> JoseStefan: give me a min im looking into it
[11:12] <Lattyware> Now you don't need to ;P
[11:12] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, I'm using the main repos, no update yet...
[11:13] <rodarvus> Lattyware, please do not instruct people to downgrade, if at all possible. I've prepared experimental packages which are supposed to fix this problem
[11:13] <Lattyware> ah, fair enough
[11:13] <avis> well i gotta hurry and switch terminals because i dont have mouse in terminal
[11:13] <ali1234> meathead_: try setting another at job as before, this time check the display of atq, it lists what will be executed...
[11:13] <rodarvus> please read the above mentioned bug report
[11:13] <Lattyware> Sorry
[11:13] <rodarvus> Lattyware, thanks for caring, though :)
[11:13] <Madpilot> mneptok, add a link to that bug report in /topic?
[11:13] <Calator> thanks a lot for the help guys, executing the command now
[11:13] <Calator> hopefullyX will be back
[11:13] <mneptok> Madpilot: no +o here, sorry
[11:14] <Calator> anyone know what was broken?
[11:14] <Madpilot> mneptok, do you want that URL in the /topic?
[11:14] <mneptok> Madpilot: but yeah, that's what should be done. put the LP URL in the /topic.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: i had one yesterday (didnt break for me) when it did for everyone else it still shouldnt break for me but we will see
[11:14] <Lattyware> rodarvus: heh, I had the problem, and I got helped, so I feel I should help others, simple logic :P
[11:14] <lamego> rodarvus, which version are er expected to try ?
[11:14] <lamego> are we
[11:14] <meathead_> it lists it
[11:14] <|skillet|> i have a thinkpad 600e laptop. i was having probs getting the sound to work. i googled and found some help. i can hear the speakers make noise like they are on but i cant get the mixer to work
[11:14] <rodarvus> lamego, there are two experimental versions, in http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/
[11:14] <rixth>  * Starting RAID monitoring services... [fail]  << how can I find out why? The RAID array itself is available
[11:14] <rodarvus> each of the two versions tries to fix the problem in a different manner
[11:14] <meathead_> but I set one at like... 5:16am, a minute from now, and when the clock turns 5:16am instead of running that command, it seems to do nothing
[11:15] <cafuego> rodarvus: check syslog
[11:15] <rixth> cafuego, me, rather?
[11:15] <lamego> rodarvus, just need to update the xorg-core package ?
[11:15] <Lattyware> I can test one for you, how should I got about it?
[11:15] <ali1234> meathead_: try setting a job to "touch ~/at-test" and see if that file turns up in your home dir
[11:15] <rodarvus> lamego, yes] 
[11:15] <Calator> ok so i executed this command
[11:15] <mneptok> Madpilot++
 dibblego wants you to know: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[11:16] <Calator> and it worked
[11:16] <MorphDK> Lattyware, thank you :D the downgrade broke a few other things, and now I'll try your experimental version
[11:16] <Calator> was that the right thing to do?
[11:16] <johnnybezak> how can i stop gnome screen saver from starting
[11:16] <rodarvus> Madpilot, thanks
[11:16] <Madpilot> no prob
[11:16] <Lattyware> ...
[11:16] <ali1234> meathead_: maybe atd is not running on your machine? sudo /etc/init.d/atd start
[11:16] <Lattyware> MorphDK: Got the wrong person, I think.
[11:16] <rodarvus> Lattyware, just update your xorg with one of the versions, and check if it works :)
[11:16] <MorphDK> Lattyware, I guess..
[11:16] <meathead_> k
[11:17] <meathead_> yeah, that worked
[11:17] <kameron> i'm running kubuntu dapper x86, and i just did an update and upgrade.. and now X won't start.. KDM won't even load.
[11:17] <KenSentMe> Is the current xorg update i get the right one?
[11:17] <dibblego> !xorgbugfix > kameron
[11:17] <meathead_> ali1234: it maked a file called at-test in my home folder
[11:17] <MorphDK> :D
[11:17] <ali1234> okay so at is certainly working
[11:17] <lassegs> !xorgbugfix > KenSentMe
[11:17] <Calator> so i guess after downgrading we shouldnt upgrade again?
[11:17] <Calator> cause it still says to upgrade
[11:18] <KenSentMe> lassegs: that was not my question.
[11:18] <meathead_> ali1234: what about another program
[11:18] <torpor> hi all
[11:18] <lassegs> KenSentMe: sorry
[11:18] <MorphDK> rodarvus, would you recommend installing all the deb's from your experimental build? or is only the xserver-xorg needed?
[11:18] <lassegs> hi
[11:18] <meathead_> ali1234: you try it with...vlc or something.. see if you can get it to work with an mp3?
[11:18] <ali1234> meathead_: that may help
[11:18] <KenSentMe> lassegs: people say the bug is fixed, but i want to know if the update i get is the bugfixed one
[11:19] <rodarvus> MorphDK, you only need xserver-xorg-core, but you can install the other packages too, if you want
[11:19] <Gun_Smoke> I was wondering what is out there for temp sensor moniters?
[11:19] <meathead_> I just made like ten bad at jobs, how do I delete them?
[11:19] <mneptok> KenSentMe: if you delay the update for 24 hours you're mostly guaranteed a working copy
[11:19] <lamego> rodarvus, patch 992 didn't fixed
[11:19] <dibblego> meathead_, atrm
[11:19] <torpor> i have a terrible problem today - last night the software update automatically updated my ubuntu box, and now the nvidia drivers refuse to work .. is there any recent activity on this that i can catch up on so that i can get my system back up and running again?  i've tried installing the NVIDA-run package (8762) and done the details on this page: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46678 but it still tells me "no Driver found" wh
[11:19] <bahadir> hello guys
[11:19] <torpor> !nvidia
[11:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <ali1234> meathead_: atrm <job number>
[11:19] <bahadir> after an electricity cut-off (few times), server giving x error
[11:19] <KenSentMe> mneptok: shouldn't it get a different version number or something
[11:19] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug
[11:19] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[11:19] <bahadir> saying "cannot find device"
[11:20] <lamego> erm, what was the patch url ?
[11:20] <mneptok> KenSentMe: not necessarily
[11:20] <lamego> forgot to download the other version :\
[11:20] <lassegs> !xorgbugfix > torpor
[11:20] <mneptok> lassegs: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:20] <meathead_> k
[11:20] <torpor> lassegs: thanks!
[11:20] <lassegs> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:20] <lassegs> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:20] <lassegs> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:20] <bahadir> how may I rectify such errors
[11:20] <lassegs> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[11:20] <ali1234> meathead_: i still think the problem is that beep can't access the sound card or the sound mixer daemon, and that problem will probably affect any program you try
[11:20] <lassegs> sorry
[11:21] <mneptok> so are we :P
[11:21] <lassegs> the client did it when i pressed it
[11:21] <lassegs> sorry
[11:21] <torpor> thanks tho'!
[11:21] <meathead_> ali1234: why is it when I type beep-blah manually it works fine, but when it's done through echo it doesn't work?
[11:21] <mneptok> lassegs: burn two keys of your keyboard as a warning to the others
[11:21] <lassegs> i will ;(
[11:22] <avis> what a relief
[11:22] <avis> i'm in Gnome now
[11:22] <swarm> :P
[11:22] <torpor> okay so are there folks in this channel who have done the xserver downgrade and come out on top?
[11:22] <avis> i've already forgotten what made it work :P
[11:22] <avis> oh
[11:22] <avis> bleh !
[11:22] <dibblego> torpor, yes
[11:22] <avis> not thinking !
[11:22] <bahadir> how can I reinstall xserver ?
[11:22] <torpor> great!
[11:22] <torpor> that worked!
[11:22] <torpor> rebooting now ..
[11:22] <avis> the wget xserver
[11:22] <ali1234> meathead_: cos at runs it in a different process.
[11:23] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > bahadir
[11:23] <torpor> thank you very much guys that is a huge relief .. can get back to work now ..
[11:23] <meathead_> so really... I can't use at for an alarm clock?
[11:23] <swarm> sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1
[11:23] <swarm> :)
[11:23] <lassegs> np torpor
[11:23] <torpor> ubuntu wins again!
[11:24] <meathead_> ali1234: so really... I can't use at for an alarm clock?
[11:24] <like_zhu> Hi, can anyone here teach me how to modify my screen resolution?
[11:24] <dibblego> like_zhu, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[11:24] <swarm> How can I check how long a wvdial instance has been connected?
[11:24] <avis> at first i didn't know what was going on so i decided to redo my ubuntu box.  i added another hard drive, installed ubuntu from 1st edition cd's and when everything was said and done i was getting the exact same error prior to redoing my system !   i had done a system update after the channel topic alert.
[11:24] <rodarvus> any news on the two experimental packages I uploaded?
[11:25] <lassegs> meathead_: i would hate waking up to the beep
[11:25] <lamego> rodarvus, yes, 005 works 992 does not
[11:25] <rodarvus> until now I received only one report that #992 doesn't fixes the problem
[11:25] <rodarvus> lamego, so, #005 fixes the problem for you?
[11:25] <lamego> rodarvus, yes it did
[11:25] <rodarvus> lamego, thanks
[11:25] <ali1234> meathead_: i'm not sure... i'll tell you when i've tried it
[11:25] <Quicksilva> shit when i use xvidtune to allign my screen properly.  i get a massive x server error when i try to restart and i cant launch the gui
[11:25] <Quicksilva> then i have to use the live cd to get back in again and the screen is out :S
[11:26] <dibblego> like_zhu, please use the channel
[11:26] <Quicksilva> any idea what i can do?
[11:26] <lassegs> Quicksilva: sure you didnt update the xorg`?
[11:26] <ali1234> meathead_: okay when i tried it i heard the mp3 for like, 0.3 seconds
[11:26] <Quicksilva> hmm
[11:26] <like_zhu> dibblego, i have only 1024x768 option
[11:26] <Quicksilva> dont think so :S
[11:26] <ali1234> meathead_: which seems to mean the process got killed after a short time
[11:27] <dibblego> like_zhu, modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <Quicksilva> the only thing i did was do the auto update that came up once ubuntu has been installed
[11:27] <Quicksilva> then go to xvidtune and adjust the screen
[11:27] <lassegs> Quicksilva:there u go
[11:27] <like_zhu> yes i know, i added 800x600 and 640x480, but it doesn't work
[11:27] <meathead_> ali1234: so...
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Quicksilva: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[11:27] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > Quicksilva
[11:27] <gnomefreak> what version is next to installed?
[11:28] <frogzoo> anybody else upgrade fglrx & now gets xorg crapping out, complaing "no screens found" ?
[11:28] <Quicksilva> Ok. so i dont do the update and it will work
[11:28] <gebruiker123> HELP MY PC WON'T SHUTDOWN AUTOMATICLY THAT"S IT REACHES SHUTDOWN BUT IT DOESN"T GO AUTOMATICLY OFF!?!?! HELP!!
[11:28] <dibblego> frogzoo, only every single person in the channel - read the topic
[11:28] <lassegs> frogzoo: yes see topic
[11:28] <gnomefreak> frogzoo: its xorg not the fglrx
[11:28] <gnomefreak> gebruiker123: lose the caps please
[11:28] <Madpilot> gebruiker123, turn your caps lock OFF, please...
[11:28] <frogzoo> dibblego: lassegs gnomefreak thx folks, sry for the noise
[11:28] <ali1234> meathead_: the solution: echo 'beep-media-player foo.mp3 &' | at time
[11:29] <swarm> gebruiker123, Hey - are all those caps really necessary?
[11:29] <meathead_> I see
[11:29] <meathead_> what's the & do
[11:29] <ali1234> meathead_: ie put & after the command
[11:29] <ali1234> meathead_: it makes at not wait for the command to finish running, and therefore not kill it
[11:29] <gebruiker123> ok guys ok ok could please hlp me?
[11:29] <swarm> gebruiker123, view http://www.eths.k12.il.us/manual_of_form_and_style/capitalization.html for assistance :)
[11:29] <Meeper1> Hi
[11:29] <Meeper1> I've got a problem installing Dapper
[11:29] <Madpilot> swarm, :D
[11:30] <lassegs> Meeper1: what is it?
[11:30] <gebruiker123> My pc won't turn of automaticly why not?
[11:30] <swarm> you typing shutdown -h now ?
[11:30] <swarm> sudo shutdown -h now ?
[11:30] <Meeper1> It seems that Linux can't seem to have more than 15 partitions on my SATA drive, any idea why?
[11:31] <rodarvus> fixed xorg-server packages have been uploaded to the archive. they should be published and mirrored in about one to two hours
[11:31] <toxic_> Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).
[11:31] <meathead_> because who the hell wants 15 paritions on one drive?
[11:31] <swarm> meathead_, because they never figured you would need that many? :P
[11:31] <Quicksilva> gnomefreak: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[11:31] <lassegs> rodarvus: that took some time
[11:31] <rodarvus> thank you again for the testing
[11:31] <Meeper1> meathead_: it's my dad's PC, i didn't partition it ;)
[11:31] <Quicksilva> i can use the update then that will fix it?
[11:31] <Quicksilva> or best not to update at all
[11:31] <rodarvus> lassegs, I hope you are kidding, right?
[11:31] <lassegs> rodarvus:  :D
[11:31] <daurn|laptop> so
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Quicksilva: type that in terminal and tell me what version it says is installed
[11:31] <P_71W> Woohoo patch 005 fixed it.
[11:31] <daurn|laptop> how do i add KVirc to the menu
[11:31] <fuci> Hi, thanks to the guy who helped me last night to get my SSH-server working
[11:31] <fuci> :)
[11:31] <sc0tty> hello
[11:31] <daurn|laptop> and also give it an icon?
[11:31] <rodarvus> anyhow
[11:32] <rodarvus> I need to get back to regular work.
[11:32] <meathead_> ali1234: I have really bad luck, that didn't work either
[11:32] <swarm> has anyone here used windows vista?
[11:32] <Quicksilva> gnomefreak: i'm running the livecd right now just installing
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:32] <ali1234> meathead_: doh. then i give up. you'll just have to install kde and kalarm
[11:32] <gnomefreak> swarm: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[11:33] <JoseStefan> so are there new packages yet?
[11:33] <swarm> okies, gnomefreak - thanks
[11:33] <lordmortis> where can i grab the appropriate xorg-core package? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb ?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:34] <gnomefreak> JoseStefan: new packages of what?
[11:34] <mneptok> look
[11:34] <mneptok> at
[11:34] <mneptok> the
[11:34] <JoseStefan> xserver-xorg-core
[11:34] <mneptok>  /topic
[11:34] <lassegs> JoseStefan: it youre think about the xorg it will be up in a few hours
[11:34] <gnomefreak> JoseStefan: the new one is broken
[11:34] <mneptok> look. at. the. topic.
[11:34] <meathead_> ali1234: type it perfect for me one more time, I think it's just a synxtax error now. then I'll give up?
[11:34] <JoseStefan> i mean the "newer" new one, cant i pull it from http yet?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> it should be released late morning mid afternoon
[11:35] <Madpilot> mneptok, nobody ever reads the /topic. Or the documentation. ;)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: nope they dont
[11:35] <toxic_> Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).
[11:35] <mneptok> Madpilot: what? sorry, wasn't paying attention ...  :P
[11:35] <lassegs> JoseStefan: rodarvus just said it will be uploaded to the mirrors in a few hours
[11:35] <frogzoo> it lives!!! - thank goodness for elinks :)
[11:36] <JoseStefan> lassegs, i was thinking that by that he meant 3rd party mirrors, and that the main one would have it already
[11:36] <MorphDK> yeah.. back in Gnome again :D
[11:36] <gables> You can upgrade an install of 5.10 to 6.06 with upgrade-dist, right?
[11:36] <Madpilot> gables, ye
[11:36] <Madpilot> yes
[11:37] <lassegs> JoseStefan: i see.
[11:37] <gables> Okay, just making sure, thanks.
[11:38] <lamego> JoseStefan, i do have the debian package that is going to be released :P
[11:38] <gables> Size of partition suggested for a 6.06 install?
[11:38] <JoseStefan> i know the version number :D
[11:38] <lamego> i am uploading it
[11:38] <Moodles> !wpa
[11:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:39] <lamego> JoseStefan, http://lamego.pinto.googlepages.com/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[11:39] <Suplyndmnd> *cheers* Here's to hoping I didn't just erase all my harddrives of all data
[11:39] <JoseStefan> how would i verify authenticity :|
[11:40] <gables> Suplyndmnd, good luck. :P
[11:40] <lamego> JoseStefan, well, i got it from the package mantainer...
[11:40] <Suplyndmnd> heh, thanks
[11:40] <meathead_> nope
[11:40] <meathead_> the world sucks
[11:40] <avis> could someone please tell me how i can grow a reiserfs partition ?
[11:40] <meathead_> nevermind
[11:40] <Suplyndmnd> Is there a UTimeMachine just incase?
[11:40] <lamego> don't the packages include a signature ?
[11:40] <avis> gparted doesn't seem to give me that option
[11:40] <JoseStefan> i dont know how to check that, i can just check MD5s
[11:41] <JoseStefan> but the MD5s are not on public domain yet
[11:41] <lamego> JoseStefan, all ubuntu packagres are signed, you would get a warning
[11:41] <gables> Size of partition suggested for a 6.06 install?
[11:41] <gables> 10Gb be enough?
[11:41] <frogzoo> avis: apt-cache search reiser |grep tool
[11:41] <avis> thank you
[11:41] <lordmortis> thanks heaps for the fix on the X11! good work! <goes back to configuring stuff>
[11:41] <Suplyndmnd> Gables, I tried 50gb and it said not enough space
[11:41] <lamego> JoseStefan, well, if you dont trust me dont use it :P
[11:41] <Suplyndmnd> but I was told that shouldn't be
[11:41] <adminosx> hello all..
[11:41] <JoseStefan> lamego, i downloaded it, but will wait for public release, just to check hash
[11:42] <toxic_> Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).
[11:42] <gables> Haha, that's ludicrous.
[11:42] <Suplyndmnd> I hope all this yada yada makes sense one day
[11:42] <adminosx> i found info how start a small ppc ubuntu distro into a stick usb: is it possible? tnx
[11:42] <willy_> hola
[11:42] <Suplyndmnd> hola
[11:43] <frogzoo> gables: I rec'd 10gig as comfortable, plus whatever for /home
[11:43] <willy_> hola que teal de donde eres
[11:43] <gables> frogzoo, okay, thanks.
[11:43] <frogzoo> gables: also /var if you're planning dbs/web servers etc.
[11:43] <Suplyndmnd> I gave it 110 gigs to do it's thing... I hope it allocates accordingly
[11:44] <willy_> perdona esque soy espaol
[11:44] <frogzoo> !es
[11:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:44] <hype> !fr
[11:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <Suplyndmnd> !gr
[11:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr   
[11:44] <Suplyndmnd> awesome
[11:44] <hype> :D
[11:45] <Suplyndmnd> yeah, 2 people in there
[11:45] <hype> lol ^^
[11:45] <hype> promote it !
[11:45] <hype> :D
[11:45] <Suplyndmnd> ChanServ being 1
[11:45] <Suplyndmnd> I was 2
[11:45] <hype> LOL
[11:46] <Suplyndmnd> I wonder if the developers of Ubuntu actually come in here
[11:47] <mneptok> ogra: do you think any Canonical employees ever use this channel?
[11:47] <Suplyndmnd> sooooo it gets completely rid of all language packs?
[11:47] <ogra> mneptok, indeed they do
[11:47] <daunt>   gnome-terminal: Depends: libvte4 (>= 1:0.12.1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:47] <daunt> ^^
[11:47] <daunt> how do i fix libvte4?  now even synaptic is borked ..
[11:48] <Suplyndmnd> *crosses fingers*
[11:48] <Suplyndmnd> brb... I hope
[11:48] <dibblego> there was a user with a nick of Canonical here a few minutes ago
[11:48] <ogra> mneptok, fabbione, mdz, Kamion, me and a bunch of others are usually here
[11:48] <lamego> !! xgl > daunt
[11:48] <mnepwork> :P
[11:49] <daunt> anyone got any clues?  libvte4 is not in my package database .. it seems only libvte9, but now synaptic needs ver 4?
[11:49] <mneptok> daunt: try cleaning apt's package cache?
[11:49] <lamego> daunt, did you read the message from ubotu ?
[11:49] <daunt> i have to install compiz/xgl to get libvte4 working?
[11:50] <JoseStefan> lamego, ok installed it, confirmed it on launchpad
[11:50] <daunt> lamego: yes i did, but its about compiz/xgl ..
[11:50] <lamego> JoseStefan, it fixed ?
[11:50] <JoseStefan> lamego, the quick restart worked
[11:50] <lamego> daunt, your problem is about compiz/xgl, it came from xgl repositories
[11:50] <daunt> oh shee-it, is that it?  i knew i shouldn't have added that stupid repository glibly ..
[11:51] <lamego> daunt, xgl is beta :)
[11:51] <daunt> damn
[11:51] <protocol1> is there a way to clear the history on a terminal or console?
[11:51] <lamego> it broken synaptic to a lot of people
[11:51] <daunt>  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[11:51] <daunt> sorry
[11:51] <lamego> protocol1, you mean, the bash history ?
[11:51] <protocol1> yes
[11:52] <toxic_> Somone with alsa drivers interested in giving me some feedback on a bashscript to change default soundcard? (I can mail it to you).
[11:52] <lamego> protocol1, rm ~/.bash_history ; export HISTSIZE=0
[11:52] <mneptok> protocol1: rm -rf .*_history
[11:52] <hype> btw, is there a way to have auto completion on terminal as you type? (not using tab key)
[11:53] <JoseStefan> i gtg, it's late
[11:53] <protocol1> either one should do the job correct
[11:54] <Moodles> im trying to get wireless to work, I turned off router security yet it still can't connect to the router
[11:55] <Suplyndmnd> *dances*
[11:56] <Suplyndmnd> I'm so happy now! *wipes tear* I can act better than Windows Users now :)
[11:57] <trpr_> bah. like we don't have enough of that to go around already
[11:57] <protocol1> lamego, so If I want to use my history again then I just add a value to that HISTSIZE right?
[11:57] <lamego> protocol1, yes, or just reopen a terminal
[11:57] <protocol1> ok cool
[11:58] <Suplyndmnd> okay, where is this blasted terminal everyone speaks of
[11:58] <Suplyndmnd> nvm, found it :)
[11:59] <linav> i got this weired problem
[11:59] <linav> i cant see video in players
[12:00] <Suplyndmnd> I'll go with obvious... codecs installed correctly?
[12:00] <linav> i mean, it runs fine
[12:00] <linav> i can hear the sound
[12:00] <linav> but not the video
[12:00] <linav> i installed the win32 codecs as well
[12:00] <Suplyndmnd> yeah, but you might need the divx or xvid codecs
[12:00] <linav> and this happens in all the players, totem, vlc, mplyaer
[12:01] <linav> i tried so many DVD's
[12:01] <Suplyndmnd> no DVD's either?
[12:01] <linav> and even otehr normal videos files
[12:01] <linav> no
[12:01] <linav> i dont see any error
[12:01] <linav> i can hear the sound
[12:01] <daurnimator> hi all
[12:01] <daurnimator> i'm trying to fix my resolution
[12:01] <daurnimator> but when i try to do it
[12:01] <Suplyndmnd> I am stumped but that's not hard to do
[12:01] <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:~$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[12:01] <daurnimator> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 23 08:08:02 2006
[12:02] <linav> suplyndmnd: how can i fix this
[12:02] <Suplyndmnd> I have no idea tbh
[12:02] <daurnimator> how do i get past ot?
[12:02] <daurn|laptop> it
[12:02] <dojo> hello
[12:02] <mtholdenss> can someone help my dual boot ubuntu? i need help resizing my windows partition using PM...
[12:02] <visham> hi folks
[12:02] <dojo> does anyne know a alernative to netowrk-mager-gnome because the pakage
[12:02] <visham> how to change the console resolution
[12:02] <dojo> just wont install
[12:03] <visham> no X
[12:03] <daurn|laptop> hello?
[12:03] <oskude> visham: vga=791 would set 800x600x32 (iirc)
[12:03] <Quicksilva> gnomefreak: do you know of a way to make the xvidtune changes save so they hold through a reboot
[12:03] <adioe3> Hi all, I had the X shit and I recovered it but my gdm.conf (not custom, the original) got deleted in the process, so could somebody paste his standard gdm.conf into some pastebin? Thanks.
[12:03] <mtholdenss> dual booting ?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> wunope sorry i dont
[12:04] <visham> oskude:how do i know what modes of resolution my moniter provides?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Quicksilva: nope sorry i dont
[12:04] <Tuxtoolman> ok this is likely a dumb permissions problem
[12:04] <Quicksilva> kk cheers anyway
[12:04] <Tuxtoolman> I ran a movie with mplayer via ssh from my zaurus on dapper
[12:05] <Tuxtoolman> killed it with ctrl-c
[12:05] <oskude> visham: by reading its manual :) but there is a program that triest to find it out... dunno about the name
[12:05] <Tuxtoolman> then ran it again where it had problem opening either sound or video (dont remember error)
[12:05] <adioe3> Can anybody share a gdm.conf file?
[12:05] <mneptok> Tuxtoolman: you mean you mounted the remote volume with ssh/scp?
[12:05] <visham> oskude: is this console resolution(i.e no X server)?
[12:05] <oskude> visham: yup
[12:06] <Tuxtoolman> no ran it on my thinkpad ( I was bothering my wife)
[12:06] <visham> oskude: thanks man  i will try it now
[12:06] <jackn> adioe3 would love to. where's the pastebin please?
[12:06] <mneptok> Tuxtoolman: you actually copied the file to the machine playing it, or ... ?
[12:06] <Tuxtoolman> then tried it again a few min later and no sound
[12:06] <oskude> visham: you add it to the kernel boot options (tip, you can set them at grub boot, that way if you get a res that your monitor dont support, you need just to reboot)
[12:06] <oskude> :/
[12:06] <adioe3> jackn: umm, www.pastebin.com ?
[12:06] <bXi> yo
[12:06] <Tuxtoolman> no ssh'd in ran "mplayer movie.avi"
[12:07] <adioe3> jackn: and send back the link, thanks
[12:07] <bXi> i got an update this morning about xserver-xorg
[12:07] <bXi> i installed it and my xorg wont start anymore
[12:07] <mneptok> Tuxtoolman: ssh/scp is not the way to go for mounting remote volumes to use data from them. ssh/scp will always try to copy the file locally (even to a cache) to manipulate it. just copy the file and play locally.
[12:07] <adioe3> How can you blacklist an update?
[12:07] <Tuxtoolman> then the second run I had to sudo to get past some unable to open error (don't remember)
[12:07] <adioe3> Especially this X.org one?
[12:07] <Tuxtoolman> now sound is hosed on the laptop
[12:07] <Tuxtoolman> alsa sound
[12:07] <gnomefreak> !blacklist > adioe3
[12:07] <jackn> adioe3 Now is the file you need /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:07] <jackn> ?
[12:08] <adioe3> yes
[12:08] <Tuxtoolman> mplayer was running on the laptop over top of the stuff my wife was running
[12:08] <Tuxtoolman> full screne from console
[12:08] <jackn> adioe3 OK, am at it, will let you know very soon. Stand by please.
[12:09] <Tuxtoolman> so the sound not working is now the problem
[12:09] <adioe3> gnomefreak: can you give an example for some package, say "pico" ?
[12:09] <Tuxtoolman> I am at this machine now and aumix shows everything running
[12:09] <Tuxtoolman> been awhile since I have had to debug sound
[12:10] <gnomefreak> nope sorry not at the moment adioe3 i havetn done it in years
[12:10] <avis> i have a problem.  i have two reiserfs partitions next to each other, the second one containing /home, the first with blank data, and i would like to expand the /home partition to take the space of the 1st unused unmounted partition
[12:10] <Tuxtoolman> I am sure it is a lock file or something
[12:10] <dalfz> i installed the xorg-server upgrade due today, after that my xserver refuses to start, Xorg message is (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found
[12:11] <adioe3> gnomefreak: I'd just like this notifier to stop showing this flawed X update. Is there another way to do that?
[12:11] <mtholdenss> someone hre is bound to help me with dual booting
[12:11] <adioe3> dalfz: read the topic
[12:11] <Moodles> how can I get the network-manager-gnome package, so I can burn it to a cd so my wireless computer can install it?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> adioe3: remove the updater icon from panel
[12:12] <MoonDuck> where is the proper place to add something to PATH? should i just edit /etc/profile?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> adioe3: later today the fix will be out i would ignore it till than
[12:12] <jackn> adioe3 Here goes: http://pastebin.com/773128
[12:12] <adioe3> gnomefreak: oh, k thanks
[12:12] <adioe3> jackn: dude you're a lifesaver, thanks very much
[12:13] <jackn> adioe3 no sweat. thanks for teaching me about the pastebin.
[12:14] <adioe3> it saves time ... tell some of the ops to put it in the topic?
[12:14] <jackn> MoonDuck No. It depends on whether it's sytem-wide or just your user.
[12:14] <DBO> adioe3, put what in the topic?
[12:14] <MoonDuck> jackn, system-wide.
[12:15] <adioe3> DBO: the pastebin.com website is a good site where folks can paste errors instead of the screen, so www.pastebin.com would be a nice thingy for the topic
[12:15] <jackn> Moonduck. Add an 'export' command to /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:15] <DBO> adioe3, the ubuntu pastebin is already in the topic...
[12:15] <DBO> look at the very end
[12:15] <adioe3> oh, sorry didn't see it, my ba
[12:15] <adioe3> bad*
[12:16] <lamego> adioe3, if you trust me you can get the xorg update from http://lamego.pinto.googlepages.com/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[12:16] <MoonDuck> jackn, if you want *all* processes to see that variable, it should be in /etc/profile, not /etc/bash.bashrc.
[12:16] <adioe3> lamego: is it a working one?
[12:16] <MoonDuck> jackn, it's an exported variable. no reason for it to be bash-specific.
[12:16] <dalfz> adioe3 hm, what is the console apt-get command to conduct the upgrade?
[12:16] <livingdaylight> what a shell script?
[12:16] <DBO> lamego, a simpler method is just sudo aptitude xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[12:16] <DBO> lamego, a simpler method is just sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core/dapper
[12:16] <lamego> adioe3, as far as I know thats the one that will be added to the updates today
[12:16] <adioe3> dalfz: umm, apt-get upgrade?
[12:16] <Y4llow> I need some help upgrading to Dapper, I'm using an external CD drive as my internal one doesn't work
[12:16] <m_0_r_0_n> How can I list the depencies of a package?
[12:16] <adioe3> lamego: will try it out
[12:17] <lamego> DBO, uh ? even if the update yes not yet available on the repositories ?
[12:17] <m_0_r_0_n> denpendencies
[12:17] <livingdaylight> installed cgoban using sh setup.sh and told to put shell script in a /bin file
[12:17] <DBO> lamego, oh never mind, you are doing the new update, not the revert
[12:17] <lamego> ah :)
[12:17] <dalfz> ok trying to fix. thx
[12:17] <jackn> Moonduck, don't know, you might be right. Think that startup will go through both, don't know by what order.
[12:17] <livingdaylight> is it the one with jar?
[12:17] <lamego> m_0_r_0_n, apt-cache show package
[12:17] <MoonDuck> jackn, it does. but it's still broken to put it there. an exported variable needs to be exported once. no reason to do it per-shell.
[12:18] <MoonDuck> in any case, it's broken to put it in either. seems like /etc/environment is the answer.
[12:18] <MoonDuck> thanks anyways.
[12:18] <Y4llow> how do I cahnge "apt-cdrom add" so it points to an external drive which is in /media/cdrom/ ???
[12:18] <jackn> Moonduck, Oh, I get it, bash.bashrc will only add it when using bash, get your point.
[12:19] <MoonDuck> jackn, not exactly, because it DOES get parsed by /etc/profile. but still, generally speaking envrionment needs to be set once, not every time you open a shell.
[12:19] <frank_b> I updated my "xorg-xserver" package yesterday and now it doesn't work anymore. is there anyway I can use the previous version instead?
[12:19] <livingdaylight> hello
[12:19] <MoonDuck> in any case /etc/environment is the proper place.
[12:19] <lamego> !! xorgbug  > frank_b
[12:19] <Tuxtoolman> any ideas what would make mplayer from command line kill alsa?
[12:19] <frank_b> ok, thanks lamego
[12:20] <Tuxtoolman> even after x and system restarts
[12:20] <Tuxtoolman> and doing a synaptic full-remove of sound-base
[12:20] <Tuxtoolman> linux-sound-base
[12:21] <avis> i'm going to backup my /home directory to my external usb drive.  once i've done that i'll need to wipe that drive it resides on and repartition it.  how do i get ubuntu to recognize the new /home and swap partitions ?
[12:21] <Y4llow> how do I cahnge "apt-cdrom add" so it points to an external drive which is in /media/cdrom/ ???
[12:22] <oskude> avis: afaik, they are all definied in /etc/fstab
[12:22] <livingdaylight> can someone advise me?
[12:22] <lamego> !! anyone
[12:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:23] <livingdaylight> need to transfer a shell script but don't know which one it is?
[12:23] <Suplyndmnd> Wow, this stuff is complicated :)
[12:23] <oskude> livingdaylight: first line in shell scripts is mostly "#!/bin/bash" ...
[12:24] <livingdaylight> oskude: ok, i'll see which one starts like that
[12:24] <oskude> livingdaylight: and "file foo.file" would say something too...
[12:24] <Inferus> Hi all, i'm trying to do a sudo apt-get install drupal, but it is telling me it wants to remove php5 and put php4 on, and I do not want this, is there any way to force it not to please?
[12:25] <lamego> Inferus, you can install drupal manually, but that requires some web apps know-how
[12:25] <Madpilot> Inferus, sounds like Drupal only works with php4, not php5...
[12:25] <riaal> Do I need to compile a .sh program?
[12:25] <oskude> Inferus: i doubt theres need to install that with apt-get...
[12:25] <Inferus> hmm
[12:25] <lamego> riaal, no, an .sh is a script, you can run it
[12:25] <Suplyndmnd> I feel so geeky
[12:25] <gnomefreak> riaal: you dont compile it you run it with sh file.sh
[12:25] <lamego> riaal, sh file.sh
[12:26] <Suplyndmnd> Is there a ubuntu room just for chitchat?
[12:26] <oskude>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <eyequeue> !offtopic
[12:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:27] <Y4llow> Heya, I'm trying to upgrade to Dapper, but sudo apt-cdrom add doesn't  work becuase I'm using an external drive, solution?
[12:27] <riaal> What does "Cannot execure binary file" mean? It is a script I wort a long time ago..
[12:27] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[12:27] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:28] <oskude> Y4llow: pastebin your command and the following error could help...
[12:28] <Y4llow> im already there following it, and it's not connected to the net so I have to use the physical cd
[12:28] <chris449> hi, i'm new to linux but i'm also interested in running a linux server - file, http, hl2 and dc. Should i get ubuntu desktop or server? (i also want to play high end comp games eg, hl2)
[12:28] <lamego> chris449, if you need to play games, you should use the desktop version to install
[12:29] <Y4llow> pastebin? sry I'm still learnin
[12:29] <lamego> later you can install the server packages
[12:29] <oskude> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:29] <chris449> lamego, yeh, i was about to say that, ok thanks
[12:29] <chris449> i'm off to dl it!
[12:29] <chris449> o and btw
[12:29] <chris449> how do ppl respond to the pastebin?
[12:29] <oskude> chris449: theres a linux client of hl2 ?
[12:29] <chris449> idk wine
[12:30] <oskude> ok ...
[12:30] <hayden> is it possible to dual boot mac os x and ubuntu on an ibook?
[12:30] <Y4llow> cheers
[12:30] <chris449> lol
[12:30] <oskude> hayden: yup
[12:30] <chris449> i posted a grub problem in the pastebin, how do ppl reply?
[12:30] <Flannel> chris449: you paste us the URL
[12:30] <oskude> chris449: first you have to post the link here so people can see it...
[12:31] <hayden> oskude, how would i got about doing that?
[12:31] <chris449> o damn, that woulda helped
[12:31] <cbx33> hi guys
[12:31] <cbx33> need some advice if anyone here has ever done anythuing like it
[12:31] <cbx33> normally when I do networking I put seperate trunking, but in this situation there is some trunking already there which has lighting power, and fire alarm cables going through it.  Am I ok to put ethernet cables through there as well
[12:31] <bXi> is there a way to reinstall ALL packages related to xserver-xorg?
[12:31] <oskude> hayden: sorry, no idea (dont have mac), i just know that it works
[12:31] <bXi> i removed some due to the bug mentioned in the topic
[12:31] <chris449> cbf now, cya later
[12:31] <bXi> but i already installed the fix mentioned there
[12:31] <bXi> but startx wont work at all now
[12:31] <PuGz> hey guys... i just did an upgrade and rebooted and now my X server doesn't work. i am using dapper. anyone else experiencing this?
[12:31] <PuGz> bXi: looks like you are?
[12:32] <lamego> bXi, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <lamego> bXi, then apply the fix
[12:32] <bXi> PuGz: see topic
[12:32] <lamego> ?? xorgbug > PuGz
[12:32] <PuGz> bXi: cheers
[12:32] <PuGz> lamego: cheers
[12:33] <riaal> Please? What does "Cannot execure binary file" mean when trying to execute a script?? It is a script I wort a long time ago..
[12:33] <user-land2> interestingly, some wmv's are playing well on amd64 :-)
[12:33] <oskude> riaal: it means what it says.. (if you ment "execute") maybe pastebin the script and error...
[12:33] <Afief> !xorgbug > Afief
[12:34] <riaal> oskude: so its a error in the script?
[12:34] <Inferus> what does
[12:34] <Inferus> cp: omitting directory
[12:34] <Inferus> mean
[12:34] <oskude> riaal: propably...
[12:34] <Inferus> please :0
[12:34] <bXi> it means your trying to copy a directory
[12:34] <Afief> so the only fix for the xorgbug is to downgrade?
[12:34] <Inferus> yep
[12:34] <cherokeegirl> how does one remove broken packages in synaptic?
[12:34] <bXi> you should add -r
[12:34] <Inferus> ok thanks
[12:34] <bXi> cp -r folder destination
[12:34] <Inferus> ty
[12:36] <cherokeegirl> nm
[12:36] <dojo> soz i was away eatiing breakfast
[12:36] <dojo> can someone tell me
[12:36] <dojo> a alternative to netowkr-manager-gnome
[12:36] <BeepAU> hey everyone, here's my problem. i'm running a dual-boot on my computer with ubuntu and windows xp. i much prefer ubuntu, but windows is kept to appease the other people in my household. anyway, my adsl modem also runs to my brother's computer. the adsl modem goes to a switch, which connects to both computers. when this computer is running windows, both it and my brother's computer can...
[12:36] <BeepAU> ...access the internet. however, when ubuntu is running, my brother is cut-off. how can i fix this? btw i'm quite new to linux.
[12:37] <hayden> anyone know how i can dual boot with osx/ubuntu ?
[12:37] <dojo> because the pakage wont install
[12:38] <oskude> BeepAU: so youre use "share internet connection" under windowsxp ?
[12:38] <RvGaTe> BeepAU, could be easily fixed by buying a router... and pt your machine to the switch... or create a gateway on your current setup
[12:39] <BeepAU> oskude -- i don't believe so.
[12:39] <BeepAU> BeepAU -- i already bought the switch so we could both have access, can't i achieve this without a router?
[12:39] <redblades> Hi all, I just plugged in a desktop microphone, and I can't seem to pick up any sound with it.
[12:39] <oskude> BeepAU: and who makes the connection with your isp ?
[12:39] <BeepAU> RvGaTe -- i already bought the switch so we could both have access, can't i achieve this without a router?
[12:40] <BeepAU> oskude -- the computer i use does.
[12:40] <redblades> The sound comes through the speakers, but I've tried reecording, and nothing.
[12:40] <Almindor> does 64bit ubuntu have aspell package?
[12:40] <Hoxzer> How do I fix fatal error: no devices found ? It started appearing after some update
[12:40] <Hoxzer> when I do startx
[12:41] <oskude> BeepAU: ok, and how did the other windowsxp get to internet when the other made the connection ?
[12:41] <RvGaTe> BeepAU, a router handles the internet traffic like you do now... it shares the internet to everyone in the internal network... its a rather small device, less power consuming, and you dont have to turn 2 pc's on to use internet...
[12:41] <jonholio> anyone know of packages for firefox 2?
[12:41] <BeepAU> oskude -- he connects normally.
[12:42] <oskude> BeepAU: you could both use the modem to connect to the isp at the same time ?
[12:42] <Inferus> hmmm
[12:42] <BeepAU> oskude -- yes
[12:42] <Inferus> i cant get my root password set on mysql
[12:42] <oskude> ...
[12:42] <Thunderpants> whats the address of source o matic?
[12:43] <bimberi> !easysource
[12:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:43] <Hoxzer> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240957&highlight=Fatal+server+error%3A+devices+found :O :((((( WHY oh whhy
[12:43] <Thunderpants> thx bimberi
[12:43] <bimberi> Thunderpants: np :)
[12:43] <oskude> BeepAU: thats new to me that you can do that...
[12:44] <Rozi> hi
[12:44] <BeepAU> oskude -- why shouldn't i be able to?
[12:44] <Rozi> anyone know easy step-by-step postfix instalation guide for newb? :)
[12:44] <oskude> BeepAU: cause its only one "line", like you cant call 2 calls with one telephone line at the same time...
[12:45] <BeepAU> oskude -- it's one constant connection going to both computers.
[12:45] <frank_b> lamego: the xorg downgrade gives me a "teporary failure in name rsolution"
[12:45] <oskude> BeepAU: constant connection ?
[12:45] <frank_b> *temporary
[12:45] <Inferus> how do I go about setting the root password for mysql please?
[12:46] <oskude> BeepAU: you just said you used pc to "call" the isp and make the connection...
[12:46] <BeepAU> oskude -- well yes, it's broadband, it's on all the time.
[12:46] <oskude> BeepAU: ah ok. then whats the problem ?
[12:46] <Rozi> Inferus:  mysqladmin -u root password new_password
[12:47] <TheGateKeeper> is xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 the one that is breaking everyone's system???
[12:47] <BeepAU> oskude -- when i'm in ubuntu, he can't access the connection. his internet doesn't work. do i need to set something up in the networking section to allow access?
[12:47] <adioe3> lamego: thanks for the update, it works
[12:48] <Inferus> Rozi:
[12:48] <Inferus> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:48] <Inferus> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[12:48] <Inferus> after i tried to set the pass
[12:48] <oskude> BeepAU: hmm, i allways used only routers... and i cant think why it doesnt work with a switch...
[12:49] <avis> does anyone have the latest beta 1.2.4 .deb build of nicotine+ for dapper ?  osirus.codedchaos.com is down.
[12:49] <Clinton__> There is an update to xserver-xorg-core to Dapper that is breaking my X.  When updated and I restart X, I get the error "No screens found".  I managed to downgrade to the previous version to get my X back, but any ideas why this might be happening with the latest upgrade?
[12:49] <oskude> BeepAU: i doubt you need to set anything in pc side, as the connection is not through them...
[12:49] <BeepAU> oskude -- do i need to set up a dns server or something?
[12:50] <oskude> BeepAU: i doubt, you got dns at your isp...
[12:50] <Caelian|work> Hmmm .. i just did a fresh install .. and upon login i was notified of 4 updates being available .. 1 of them being xserver-xorg-core ... after this update X no longer wants to start up ... any known fixes for this ?
[12:50] <Caelian|work> it claims it can't find any screens
[12:50] <Clinton__> Caelian|work: I'm here for that same reason
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Caelian|work: read /topic please
[12:50] <oskude> BeepAU: maybe you took the same ip address in ubuntu as in windowsxp ?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Clinton__: read /topic please
[12:50] <Caelian|work> doh .. will look
[12:50] <Inferus> Can someone help me sort out my mysql as it is really difficult, I can log onto the server as root on putty
[12:50] <Inferus> but the same root pass doesnt work
[12:50] <Inferus> for users
[12:51] <BeepAU> oskude -- would that happen if i didn't change anything?
[12:51] <avis> the ubuntu development team must be right on this issue i assume ??
[12:52] <oskude> BeepAU: dunno... i assume you dont have dhcp in your network, so you have give it manually...
[12:53] <BeepAU> oskude -- in networking, in the ethernet connection properties, the configuration is dhcp.
[12:53] <Quicksilva> Is there a way of making an ntfs drive to be mounted and used
[12:53] <oskude> BeepAU: hmm, does your modem have dhcp ?
[12:53] <deltab> Inferus: mysqk's root user is completely separate
[12:53] <bimberi> !ntfs
[12:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:53] <BeepAU> oskude -- i don't know what dhcp even is.
[12:54] <Quicksilva> !ntfs
[12:54] <oskude> BeepAU: and do check what ips your machines have, "ifconfig" under linux, and iirc "ipconfig" under windowsxp
[12:54] <deltab> ipconfig /all
[12:54] <oskude> BeepAU: dhcp is a service that gives machines ip addresses automaticly/dynamicly...
[12:54] <daurnimator> could someone please explain this to me?
[12:54] <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:~$  aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:54] <daurnimator> Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[12:54] <daurnimator> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:54] <daurnimator> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0
[12:54] <daurnimator> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[12:55] <daurn|laptop> whats a Bad file descriptor?
[12:55] <daurn|laptop> :S
[12:56] <deltab> daurnimator: file descriptors are numbers that identify files that have been opened
[12:56] <rkd> are you root? does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?
[12:56] <daurnimator> ah
[12:56] <daurnimator> wasn;t root
[12:56] <daurnimator> :p
[12:56] <daurn|laptop>  - i'm a noob
[12:56] <daurn|laptop> please help me get my ati card setup
[12:56] <BeepAU> oskude -- i think i've fixed it. thanks for your help.
[12:57] <oskude> BeepAU: what was it ?
[12:57] <oskude> :/
[12:58] <daurn|laptop> any1?
[12:59] <Afief> so the only fix for the xorgbug is to downgrade?
[12:59] <JoshHendo> In what way do you need help daurn?
[01:00] <daurn|laptop> getting aticonfig setup properly
[01:00] <daurn|laptop> i remember in previous times having lots of issues
[01:00] <talios> Afief: 10.4_i386 has apparantly been uploaded, havn't tried it myself yet
[01:00] <mcbuddha> hi all! i installed ubuntu 6.06.1 and i 'lost' a partition. my /home was on /dev/hda6. before installing i set that mount /home onto /dev/hda6 and no format. after rebooting i don't have my folders of the old partition, i have the new 'desktop' and 'examples' folder on /home. looked at my partitions in administrtion and there is ~5GiB used on /dev/hda6 (i had that ~5GiB on the old partition). so it looks that i have my files, but i can't r
[01:02] <dojo> can someone help
[01:02] <dojo> when i try to install
[01:02] <dojo> network-manager-gnome
[01:02] <dojo> it doesnt install properly it just coloses when i click install
[01:02] <dojo> i installed all the pakages needed for it
[01:03] <ali1234> is it possible to install a 2.6.12 kernel on dapper?
[01:03] <xopher> everything's possible
[01:03] <ali1234> xopher: will it actually work properly?
[01:03] <Casanova> how do i dist-upgrade from dapper to efty?
[01:04] <Casanova> what should i change `dapper' to in my sources.list file?
[01:04] <goki-> efty edge?
[01:04] <dojo> its been enoying me cause i have been trying to get connected to the internet for the past few days
[01:04] <xopher> ali1234, cant say, depens on your hardware, but try it out and youll see
[01:04] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[01:04] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:04] <dojo> andive installed the drivers
[01:04] <dojo> and when i go to the other netowrk-admin
[01:04] <dojo> and set the ESSID to my network
[01:04] <dojo> i still cant get onto the internet
[01:05] <Ivanowitch> Dojo, what kind of encryption do you use?
[01:05] <dojo> afk
[01:05] <PhilsenAsk> hi guys
[01:05] <rkd> hi
[01:06] <Casanova> eyequeue: it doesnt say how to go from dapper --> efty
[01:06] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[01:06] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:06] <oskude> Casanova: efty is still under development...
[01:06] <eyequeue> Casanova, the -d command at the end
[01:06] <Casanova> ok
[01:07] <Casanova> thanks :)
[01:07] <Stargazers> Hi. How I can see what version of GTK+ I have?
[01:07] <PhilsenAsk> can someone tell me what basic structure of mysql is
[01:07] <avu> stargazers: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[01:07] <ugarit> my laptop has the Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express.  How do I enable opengl?
[01:07] <rkd> PhilsenAsk: what do you mean?
[01:07] <Stargazers> avu: Thx, let me see
[01:08] <Stargazers> avu: Thank you very much! :)
[01:08] <avu> stargazers: you're most welcome (:
[01:09] <Stargazers> So, if I manually update it from sources, should I apt-get remove that old version?
[01:09] <frogzoo> looks like latest fglrx fix fixed suspend
[01:09] <avu> stargazers: Hm, do you want to change dapper from 2.8 to 2.10 or something like that?
[01:09] <fluvvell> sry
[01:09] <sven_> why is edgy eft install cd so large?
[01:09] <fluvvell> sheesh it was 4 lines
[01:09] <sven_> it does not fit on a cd
[01:09] <Stargazers> avu: Yes, I have dapper and 2.8 but I downloaded 2.10 and just want to compile and use it?
[01:10] <Stargazers> Should I remove older?
[01:10] <oskude> Stargazers: you shouldnt update anything from source if you dont know what youre doing...
[01:10] <avu> stargazers: You are almost sure to break a lot of things if you do so
[01:10] <Stargazers> Mmh? Why?
[01:10] <avu> stargazers: many programs in dapper are linked against gtk 2.8
[01:10] <Stargazers> oskude: Yep, sure, but I just use linux to test everything :P
[01:10] <Stargazers> avu: Oh
[01:11] <oskude> Stargazers: i would install it to /usr/local/ do you wont be messing anything...
[01:11] <avu> stargazers: if you want alinux testing- (as oposed to work-) environment with gtk 2.10, installing edgy *might* be, what you want
[01:11] <avu> stargazers: or, as oskude, you could install the new gtk to a 'safe' location
[01:11] <gnomefreak> what file would i delete to change gnome desktop to original settings
[01:12] <Stargazers> avu: Oh, well, that was what I thought also couple of days ago.
[01:12] <avu> stargazers: from a testing perspective, that would not be the same though
[01:12] <Stargazers> Well, hmm.
[01:12] <sven_> does anybody know why is edgy eft install cd so LARGE that it does not fit on a cd?
[01:12] <Stargazers> avu: So, edgy eft is out there already? I mean that of course I know that is only a testing version, but is it downloadable already somewhere?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> sven_: its being worked on and sven_ edgy questions go to #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <avu> gnomefreak: ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf*?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> sstno
[01:13] <oskude> sven_: huh ? which one ? last time i got burned edgy all was ok...
[01:13] <gnomefreak> yes than
[01:13] <sven_> it is 703 megabytes
[01:13] <sven_> but cd-s are 700 megabytes
[01:13] <avu> stargazers: yes, there is a install CD called knot 1. sven_ is just talking about it being to large for his taste... ;)
[01:13] <oskude> sven_: i got some 800mb ;)
[01:14] <Stargazers> avu: Well, it is from sources too? I like more to use apt-get dist-upgrade like with Dapper
[01:14] <gnomefreak> it will be back to regular size by release
[01:14] <sven_> oskude: where do you burn it?
[01:14] <mRCUTEO> anyone knows how to send broadcast message in ubuntu?
[01:14] <avu> stargazers: sure
[01:14] <Stargazers> avu: Oh? I can
[01:14] <Stargazers> can
[01:14] <Stargazers> FUCK
[01:14] <Stargazers> can't find it :D
[01:14] <Stargazers> Sorry
[01:14] <Stargazers> Two times same typo (pressed ENTER)
[01:14] <chemaja> mRCUTEO, wall?
[01:14] <Stargazers> :P
[01:14] <avu> stargazers: you can debootstrap a dapper and dist-upgrade that. Or dist-upgrade your current dapper installation
[01:15] <oskude> sven_: i used 700mb cdrom medium... but as gnomefreak said, there seems to be a known "problem"...
[01:15] <DBO> !language > Stargazers
[01:15] <Stargazers> fluvvell: :(
[01:15] <avu> stargazers: change every occurence of 'dapper' to 'edgy' in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <Stargazers> oh, so easy :O
[01:15] <fluvvell> Stargazers: its an anti typo fish
[01:15] <avu> stargazers: then do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:15] <Stargazers> Rrright
[01:15] <Stargazers> Have to test it
[01:15] <mRCUTEO> chemaja didmt seems to work :)
[01:15] <asraniel> hi, a friend of mine asked me to fix his computer. his email is slow and he uses evolution. he told me that the actual data transfer is at normal speed but that the emails are slow. could this be the ipv6 problem? or are there some known problems with evolution?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ok everyone edgy questions/support is in #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <avu> !upgrade
[01:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[01:15] <chemaja> mRCUTEO, it works for ttys
[01:16] <mRCUTEO> root@216:~# wall hello world
[01:16] <mRCUTEO> usage: wall [file] 
[01:16] <chemaja> mRCUTEO, not sure about a GUI version
[01:16] <avu> stargazers: there you have a more graphical variant if you prefer that
[01:16] <chemaja> mRCUTEO, probably something with that gnome notification area
[01:16] <Stargazers> :)
[01:16] <chemaja> mRCUTEO, maybe it's not developed yet
[01:16] <PhilsenAsk> i want to create a sql database for mediawikki
[01:16] <avu> stargazers: (not the last sentence in the !upgrade-factoid)
[01:16] <avu> stargazers: erm, now I am typo-ing myself
[01:16] <lostinc> What is the cause of the x server issue?
[01:16] <avu> stargazers: note, not not :)
[01:16] <mRCUTEO> oh..
[01:17] <mRCUTEO> ;)
[01:17] <avu> gnomefreak: sorry
[01:17] <Inferus> Hey people, how do I allow apache access to write in a folder, like /var/www/drupal/files
[01:17] <Inferus> its got permission errors
[01:17] <Inferus> dont i have to chmod or something?
[01:17] <Stargazers> Yep
[01:18] <Inferus> mind explaining how please?
[01:18] <erUSUL> anybody has experienced X breakage with the last updarte? i know of two people already...
[01:18] <avu> inferus: chown www-data: dir/ should do
[01:18] <Inferus> erUSUL view topic
[01:18] <Inferus> ty avalost
[01:18] <Inferus> avu*
[01:18] <avu> inferus: be sure to know what you're doing there, though
[01:18] <Inferus> sorted
[01:18] <Inferus> ty avu
[01:19] <avu> inferus: especially in a shared hosting environment, the security implications could be staggering! ;)
[01:19] <DJAdmiral> Hi, after I downloaded and installed the new xserver-xorg-core update my PC can't boot X. Help?
[01:19] <treb0r> hey chaps
[01:19] <oskude> from the topic: If X is broken after a recent update please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[01:20] <DJAdmiral> oskude: sorry - didn't notice
[01:20] <Stargazers> So, have to download edgy o/ Thx for help, have to test it... C u
[01:20] <treb0r> I just hosed my ubuntu install by inadvertantly pressing 'hibernate' instead of 'shutdown'. Now my X server won't start because it can't find a screen. any help would be fantastic...
[01:20] <lostinc> oskude is there a page explaining what happened?
[01:21] <Inferus> Wow, drupal is awesome
[01:21] <Suplyndmnd> man... THAT sucked
[01:21] <treb0r> I just updayed by box too, maybe that's what happenede to me...
[01:21] <oskude> lostinc: no idea... did you read the bugreport completely ? ;)
[01:21] <treb0r> updated my box
[01:21] <Inferus> treb0r me too
[01:21] <Inferus> :D
[01:21] <Inferus> but i dont care
[01:21] <Inferus> i use putty ^_^
[01:22] <Inferus> its rare I actually use my server
[01:22] <Inferus> in GUI mode
[01:22] <OmegaNine> Anyone else having issues with the new xorg update?
[01:22] <Suplyndmnd> !offtopic
[01:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:22] <frogzoo> treb0r: see the topic ^^^
[01:22] <lostinc> LOL okkude who really reads every bug report completely?
[01:22] <treb0r> Inferus: ok, I feel a little better
[01:22] <Inferus> treb0r they'll probably fix it in a short space of time
[01:22] <Inferus> :)
[01:22] <Inferus> either that
[01:22] <Inferus> or reinstall an older version
[01:23] <javiolo> hey
[01:23] <oskude> lostinc: the ones who wants to know whats happening...
[01:23] <lostinc> What print system does gnome use on ubuntu?
[01:23] <frogzoo> Inferus: read the bug report - install the older xserver core & back in business
[01:23] <OmegaNine> Anyone else having issues with the new xorg update?  After installing it, it told me it cant find a screen
[01:23] <treb0r> frogzoo: How would I roll back to the older version?
[01:23] <eyequeue> OmegaNine, /topic
[01:23] <frogzoo> OmegaNine: see the topic - read the bug report - instal the backdated xserver core
[01:23] <frogzoo> treb0r: read the bug report
[01:23] <phreakys> hey
[01:24] <treb0r> frogzoo: where do if ind the bug report?
[01:24] <OmegaNine> Oh, didnt realize you guys where talking to me before.
[01:24] <phreakys> i installed ubuntu + compiz/xgl, looks great!
[01:24] <OmegaNine> Sorry
[01:24] <eyequeue> treb0r,  /topic
[01:24] <phreakys> wonder if its possible to have seperate desktop backgrounds for the cube?
[01:24] <treb0r> thanks chaps
[01:24] <avu> phreakys: try #ubuntu-xgl - you might find more expertise regarding this topic there :)
[01:25] <OmegaNine> phreakys Yeah, its just a matter of seting up the BGs for your dif desktops
[01:26] <Inferus> whats compiz/xgl ?
[01:26] <eyequeue> !xgl
[01:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:26] <avis> what chmod properties does a users home directory have ?
[01:27] <Inferus> phreakys got any screenshots?
[01:27] <oskude> avis: i got drwxr-xr-x
[01:27] <frogzoo> avis: 755 or 775
[01:27] <avis> thank you
[01:27] <frogzoo> avis: or 700 if paranoid
[01:27] <avis> ok
[01:27] <OmegaNine> Ugh http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb, i get to write that down, reboot and type it in...wonder how many times i will F that up :P
[01:27] <OmegaNine> Thanks for the help though!
[01:28] <nry> exit
[01:28] <avis> i'm going to wipe my home dir and then i wont be able to login to gnome anymore seeing as my user home dir wont be there anymore.  i assume i'm dumped to terminal where i edit fstab ?
[01:28] <avis> wipe the drive my home dir is on
[01:29] <avis> i could not grow my reiserfs partitions
[01:29] <Inferus> does this XGL thing, basically make linux look like windows vista?
[01:29] <Inferus> transparancy and that
[01:29] <nry> thanks ppl for the xserver bug solution
[01:29] <aLPHa_LeaK> Inferus: better effects tho
[01:30] <eyequeue> Inferus, no idea, it requires special hardware
[01:30] <xasaya> hello
[01:30] <xasaya> i'm looking for some Ubuntu's user form
[01:30] <xasaya> from taiwan
[01:30] <xasaya> ?
[01:31] <eyequeue> what is the country code?
[01:31] <Suplyndmnd> How do I get GuildWars to run on here? :) TY
[01:31] <nry> i'm not in taiwan but grretings from Switzerland
[01:31] <Lattyware> Suplyndmnd: You'd have to try Wine.
[01:31] <Suplyndmnd> I did
[01:31] <Lattyware> Not sure if it'll work.
[01:31] <rixth> How can I get sound in sync with Flash?
[01:31] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell xasaya about tw
[01:32] <Suplyndmnd> says it cant use gw.dat
[01:32] <PingunZ> hey, I want to set up a phpBB forum in ubuntu. I dont want to host it myself, just put the forum online. how can I do that ?
[01:32] <Quicksilva> I followed the help on mounting a ntfs drive but no luck :<   anyone that could assist me
[01:32] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell quicksilva about anyone
[01:32] <oskude> PingunZ: what ?
[01:33] <Quicksilva> my question is.  how do i mount a ntfs drive... :p
[01:33] <eyequeue> man mount
[01:33] <PingunZ> oskude: I want to install a a phpbb forum, and be able to test it in localhost.
[01:34] <BlueEagle> pingunz: If you're not hostin it yourself odds are that you won't be hosting it on a machine running ubuntu. As for setting up phpBB refer to the forums. What you need to set it up on your local box is apache, mysql and mod-php.
[01:34] <oskude> PingunZ: ah ok, and wheres the problem ? where to start ?
[01:34] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: !ntfs didn't work you say?
[01:34] <BlueEagle> !ntfs
[01:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:34] <oskude> !lamp > PingunZ
[01:34] <Quicksilva> yeah i read through it
[01:34] <Quicksilva> and followed what it said
[01:34] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: ...and did you get any error messages at all=
[01:34] <BlueEagle> ?
[01:35] <Quicksilva> nope
[01:35] <oskude> PingunZ: and when you got "lamp" installed you just install phpBB according to their instructions...
[01:35] <Quicksilva> i did it the auto way and i noticed
[01:36] <Quicksilva> 2 secs..
[01:36] <eyequeue> Quicksilva, man mount didn't work there?
[01:38] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: If you executed the script then "The script will generate some output, regardless of whether it succeeds or not. Read the output as it will indicate errors and things you should read."
[01:38] <Quicksilva> ok will do that now
[01:38] <xasaya> thx BlueEagle
[01:39] <BlueEagle> xasaya: np :)
[01:39] <babo> yesterday some javascript on the bebo website crashed firefox repeatedly. Today a runaway while loop in firefox crashed gnome and I had to log into my terminal again ? WTF ?
[01:40] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: also a prerequisite of the scritp is that the ntfs partitions is not already mounted. Ubuntu installer generates mount points and entries in /etc/fstab by default iirc. Might be a good idea to remove those.
[01:40] <Quicksilva> Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[01:40] <Quicksilva> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[01:40] <chesty> anyone played with xen under edgy? I'm getting some hotplug error message
[01:41] <Quicksilva> hdb1 is the ntfs drive
[01:41] <Quicksilva> hmm
[01:41] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: Then you'll need to remove it from the fstab before running the script.
[01:41] <xasaya> write on ntfs isn't yet stable?
[01:41] <BlueEagle> xasaya: That is correct. You cannot write to ntfs (reliably) on linux yet.
[01:42] <BlueEagle> xasaya: Feel free to email microsoft about that. ;D
[01:42] <eyequeue> xasaya, the author has made the spec proprietary :(  write them and ask for a change if you want
[01:42] <rcklmk> i think ntfs writing module is not experimental again
[01:43] <xasaya> yeah, good idea...
[01:43] <rkd> isn't ntfs-3g working fine?
[01:43] <lassegs> rkd: it does
[01:44] <BlueEagle> quicksilva: When reading a how-to it's generally concidered a good idea to read the entire how-to. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-7d5da05389ce1c069142effba13bc3ff1e71d7bb 'script assumptions')
[01:44] <fdr> Hello... I'm having problems installing a package with apt... can somebody help me please? The error is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21382
[01:44] <_X_> does anyone here have a direct link to the latest ndiswrapper.deb?
[01:44] <fdr> thank you
[01:44] <rkd> xasaya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 has ntfs writing information
[01:45] <eyequeue> _X_, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <xasaya> thks
[01:45] <BlueEagle> fdr: That looked very italian. Perhaps #ubuntu-it would be more likely to understand it. :)
[01:45] <_X_> thanks, eyequeue
[01:46] <J_P> hi all
[01:46] <BlueEagle> fdr: It seems that libGL.so.1.2 is missing, so is your question where you can find it?
[01:47] <fdr> BlueEagle, it *is* very Italian. :-)  Is there a way to have apt give messages in English? Maybe by exporting some shell variables?
[01:47] <Lymph> hi
[01:47] <grrrrrr> hi
[01:47] <Lymph> what is an ubuntu?
[01:47] <kyja> ummm, one have my machines updated and now complains xserver is not configured properly.
[01:47] <kyja> help
[01:47] <kyja> whats a Lymph?
[01:47] <BlueEagle> fdr: I guess it is but I don't know what it is. I am guessing LOCALE
[01:47] <eyequeue> kyja, /topic
[01:47] <oskude> fdr: yes, but i forgot what it was called...
[01:47] <kyja> hehe just kidding.
[01:47] <grrrrrr> someone has problems with ati XORG drivers?
[01:47] <sc0tch> Hi, I had a quick install question, I have the Kismet Package from the repo installed, and I just downloaed the latest srouce tarball and compiled it, should I uninstall the original package before doing a make install from source?
[01:47] <rkd> BlueEagle: i don't speak italian, but it looks like it can't create the libgl file
[01:47] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell grrrrrr about xorgbug
[01:47] <Lymph> ok
[01:48] <grrrrrr> I just updated this morning de xserver
[01:48] <kyja> ah hehe thaks eyequeue
[01:48] !lilo:*! web update, http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#termination (edge case cleanup; single channels versus total move)
[01:48] <fdr> BlueEagle, the point is that I was having the same problems by upgrading ia32-libs, so I decided to use dpkg to force uninstall, and now I am trying to reinstall it...
[01:48] <fdr> but doesnt work :-(
[01:48] <grrrrrr> and the xorg doesn't detect the device...
[01:48] <BlueEagle> rkd: To me it looks like the libgl file is assumed to be there but yet missing. (ie a missing dependency)
[01:48] <remon> grrrrrr: radeon card ?
[01:48] <xasaya> some problem with the update xserver, no?
[01:48] <grrrrrr> yes remon
[01:48] <remon> same here
[01:48] <BlueEagle> grrrrrr: did you read the message you got from ubotu yet?
[01:48] <daurn|laptop> [21:45:35]  <daurnimator> what have i done wrong?:
[01:48] <daurn|laptop> [21:45:36]  <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:/mnt$ sudo mount -o 1000 -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/Storage
[01:48] <daurn|laptop> [21:45:37]  <daurnimator> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[01:48] <daurn|laptop> [21:45:37]  <daurnimator> missing codepage or other error
[01:48] <grrrrrr> and IGP mobility 350M
[01:48] <daurn|laptop> ^^ please help
[01:49] <grrrrrr> no BlueEagle
[01:49] <BlueEagle> grrrrrr: please do.
[01:49] <void^> daurn|laptop: what's -o 1000 supposed to mean?
[01:49] <erUSUL> grrrrrr: view the topic
[01:49] <daurn|laptop> userid?
[01:49] <erUSUL> grrrrrr:  Use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> daurn|laptop: dont paste in here. please use pastebin
[01:49] <daurn|laptop> someone before gave it to me
[01:49] <erUSUL> grrrrrr: it will revert the update
[01:49] <void^> daurn|laptop: that would be -o uid=1000
[01:49] <grrrrrr> thanks erUSUL
[01:49] <grrrrrr> :)
[01:49] <daurn|laptop> ag
[01:49] <daurn|laptop> thank you
[01:49] <rkd> BlueEagle: 'impossibile creare' looks like 'can't create', and it's a file in /usrlib32 when trying to install the ia32-libs package, suggesting that the package is trying to create it
[01:50] <rkd> /usr/lib32, rather
[01:50] <fdr> BlueEagle, and "nessun file o directory" means: "no file or directory"
[01:50] <erUSUL> rkd: BlueEagle the error comes to a non existing dir '/usr/lib32/'
[01:51] <daurn|laptop> ok
[01:51] <daurn|laptop> now i've got the same error, on a different partition
[01:51] <daurn|laptop> :P
[01:51] <BlueEagle> fdr: amd64 platform?
[01:51] <fdr> erUSUL, BlueEagle but /usr/lib32/ exists
[01:51] <fdr> BlueEagle, yes, amd64
[01:51] <rkd> fdr: it seems to be looking for "./usr/lib32"
[01:52] <BlueEagle> fdr: Never used. Makes for hard debugging. :)
[01:52] <grrrrrr> it works!!!
[01:52] <grrrrrr> :D
[01:52] <rkd> fdr: cd / and try it again
[01:52] <grrrrrr> hey, thank you so much, guys
[01:52] <BlueEagle> grrrrrr: You're most welcome.
[01:52] <grrrrrr> :))
[01:52] <grrrrrr> thanks again...see you!
[01:52] <daurnimator> daurnimator@desktop:/mnt$ sudo mount -o uid=1000 -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt/Emulation
[01:52] <daurnimator> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[01:52] <daurnimator>        missing codepage or other error
[01:52] <BlueEagle> grrrrrr: oh, and read what ubotu tells you about in the future. It's very often very helpful. ;D
[01:53] <daurn|laptop> whats wrong this time?
[01:53] <fdr> rkd, tried, but unfortunately doesn't work...
[01:53] <BlueEagle> daurn|laptop: sudo fdisk -l|grep sda5
[01:54] <xasaya> there is a project for an adaptation of K3b or something like that under gnome, i don't want to install the kde library and i don't want to user wine with shrinkdvd
[01:54] <daurnimator> fdisk?
[01:54] <xasaya> ?
[01:54] <fdr> rkd, have you got any other ideas please?
[01:54] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: to make sure that sda5 is indeed an ntfs partition.
[01:54] <MeTTY> hi all, the xorg-core upgrade tomorrow is messed up this machine, how can i fix it?
[01:54] <daurnimator> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[01:54] <daurnimator> /dev/sda5           24322       48642   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:54] <lukketto> metty: ubuntuforums....
[01:54] <MeTTY> luketto i'm on tty
[01:54] <rkd> fdr: hmmm
[01:55] <lukketto> metty: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[01:55] <MeTTY> please help, it hionk it's not complicated, and this error caused a for tohusands of users
[01:55] <MeTTY> hm, thx
[01:55] <lukketto> metty: it's a downgrade
[01:55] <MeTTY> yes, i'm understand
[01:55] <daurnimator> BlueEagle: ?
[01:55] <lukketto> OK;)
[01:56] <rkd> fdr: try running strace aptitude install ia32-libs (might need to install strace first) and see exactly what path it's trying to reach
[01:56] <Spudz0r> hey folks, im currently in cmdline mode, i'm running ubuntu dapper, and did an update earlier on, for xserver-xorg, and now my GUI wont start :S, i've never had this problem before on this computer (i've had it on another computer, but that was due to nvidia drivers having to mod the kernel again), anyone know what/s up?
[01:56] <rkd> Spudz0r: /topic
[01:56] <geser> MeTTY: or wait the new packages for xserver-xorg-core hit the archive/mirrors
[01:56] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Then it might be a bad superblock or missing codepage or other error. That mount command should in theory work. To be on the safe side try: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/Emulation
[01:56] <lukketto> Spudz0r: I've just written . sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[01:57] <xevil> is everyone xserver hosed after the xserver-xorg-core update?
[01:57] <daurnimator> same error
[01:57] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: if that gives the same error then I do not know how to fix it. It might be a broken partition.
[01:57] <daurnimator> its not broken
[01:57] <MeTTY> xevil yes
[01:57] <daurnimator> works fine in window
[01:57] <daurnimator> s
[01:57] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Just because windows can read it doesn't mean that it's not broken.
[01:57] <daurnimator> and - actually has all my stuff backed up onto it
[01:57] <raveneye> thnx all for the reverse X update sollution. I almost started crying after the update.
[01:57] <daurnimator> i had to move everything off my ide drive to install ubuntu
[01:58] <fdr> rkd, the output is *very* verbose... where do I look for?
[01:58] <daurnimator> is there something special to do because its a logical partition?
[01:59] <rkd> fdr: pipe it to 'grep libGL'
[01:59] <fdr> oki
[01:59] <erUSUL> xevil: see topic and  Use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:00] <fdr> rkd, just piping with | doesn't work because the verbose stuff is on stderr...
[02:00] <fdr> i'll try redirecting on a file first
[02:00] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: nope. Should mount the same way.
[02:00] <xevil> erUSUL: I was just reading that... thanks
[02:00] <daurnimator> so
[02:00] <lukketto> fabbione: ciao, perch non si ferma l'update di xorg?
[02:00] <daurnimator> what do i do?
[02:00] <daurnimator> i need the data on it
[02:01] <fdr> rkd,   impossibile creare `./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2': Nessun file o directory
[02:01] <utab> hi, I have a script which helps me mount some network drive
[02:01] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: it being a windows parititon I'd recomend you boot windows and attempt to find a util to fix it. Either that or burn out all the data to a couple of DVDs.
[02:01] <fabbione> lukketto: ?
[02:01] <daurnimator> i don't have windows anymore
[02:01] <daurnimator> :S
[02:01] <rkd> fdr: that's the only output mentioning libgl?
[02:01] <Spudz0r> thx guys, reboot time :D
[02:01] <daurnimator> btw, does this help?:
[02:01] <void^> daurnimator: see if dmesg has any interesting output
[02:01] <utab> but the problem is that I have to run the script every time I want to connect to these drives, where sould I put this script to automount them when I login
[02:02] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Then I recomend you use a different filesystem next time you need to back something up. ;D
[02:02] <daurnimator> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:02] <daurnimator> /dev/sda1   *           1       24321   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:02] <daurnimator> /dev/sda2           24322       48642   195358432+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:02] <daurnimator> /dev/sda5           24322       48642   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:02] <rkd> fdr: are you sure you redirected both stdout and stderr to the file?
[02:02] <fdr> rkd, with capitalization libGL, yes
[02:02] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Fortunately you can remove your scsi/sata disk and take it to a friend who'se got windows and a dvd burner.
[02:02] <fdr> rkd, i redirected with 2>, is that the right way?
[02:02] <lukketto> FABBIONE: LA 10.3 DI XSERVER Xorg CORE blocca l'interfaccia grafica di ubuntu e si pu lavorare solo da prompt
[02:03] <daurnimator> BlueEagle: i had only that drive with space left - it already had stuff on it - i needed to backup 70gb - so i transfered it to that drive
[02:03] <fabbione> lukketto: this is an english channel. and there is no need to use CAPITAL LETTERS
[02:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell lukketto about it
[02:03] <daurnimator> then deleted windows, and installed ubntu
[02:03] <lukketto> fabbione: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[02:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell lukketto about xorgbug
[02:03] <erUSUL> !paste > daurnimator
[02:03] <dalila> hi all i have a bigissue here, just upgraded xorg-serv that came up in updates and now x wont start
[02:03] <daurnimator> - now i need that data
[02:03] <daurnimator> :S
[02:03] <fabbione> lukketto: i am perfectly aware of the problem but it's not my fault or responsability to fix it
[02:03] <erUSUL> dalila: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:03] <fabbione> lukketto: the maintainer is working on it.
[02:03] <rkd> fdr: yeah, it seems to be
[02:03] <orbish> !xorg
[02:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:04] <utab> how can I connecy some network drives automatically
[02:04] <lukketto> fabbione: ah ok!.....sorry for the capital letters :)
[02:04] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Did you read the last thing I wrote to you?
[02:04] <utab> sorry , how can I mount some network drives automatically
[02:04] <lamego> dalila, read the topic please
[02:04] <rkd> fdr: very odd
[02:04] <daurnimator> BlueEagle: none of my friends would let me near their computers
[02:04] <daurnimator> :p
[02:05] <dalila> can you guys repeat it i am using irssi and it scrolled to fast
[02:05] <orbish> utab: /etc/fstab i think
[02:05] <erUSUL> dalila: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:05] <xasaya> some idea for a packet (aapt-get install ...) to use chinese caracter?
[02:05] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Well I guess you can have them do it for you. I won't enquire about the reason for that although I'm midly curious.
[02:05] <erUSUL> dalila: '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' will work too
[02:05] <fdr> rkd: could it be because maybe I had manually fiddled with that file? I remember trying to manually install the drivers for my ati card, but I can't exactly remember what I did
[02:05] <utab> orbish: you think, you are nor sure
[02:05] <BlueEagle> dalila: page-up will scroll back
[02:05] <daurnimator> lol - just rule out the possiblity of doing it at a friends
[02:06] <daurnimator> i need it done now - and by me
[02:06] <daurnimator> - and with linux
[02:06] <fdr> rkd, I was looking for some kind of a "force" option in dpkg, but I couldn't find it...
[02:06] <dalila> how do i view topic
[02:06] <rkd> fdr: I guess it's possible; what's in /usr/lib32?
[02:06] <jubei_> !pastebin
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:07] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: since the spesifications for NTFS are as closely guraded as they are there is no way for anyone to make a proper NTFS driver yet. And since the partition is broken the only way to get to it will be trough the operating system that the filesystem was written for or have the authors of the filesystem release it specs.
[02:07] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: that is the unfortunate fact of the matter.
[02:07] <Zonoid> Could anyone help me setup my laptop's WI-FI card with Ubuntu?
[02:07] <fdr> rkd: ls output is in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21383
[02:07] <daurnimator> there HAS to be a way
[02:07] <daurnimator> :S
[02:07] <orbish> utab: there's a way to do it, for file type you use smb or something... i did it a while ago, not sure... google it :)
[02:08] <daurnimator> what is fs type W95 Ext'd (LBA)?
[02:08] <lukketto> about ubot: is there a list of commands of ubot?
[02:08] <xevil> dalila: /topic
[02:08] <jubei_> Hi everyone. I just booted up today and now Xorg won't start at all. I'm using the Ubuntu livecd right now. Can anyone help?
[02:08] <orbish> utab: but that should be a good starting spot
[02:08] <eyequeue> lukketto, /msg ubotu help
[02:08] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: Now, the way I see it you've got three choices. A) Install windows and fix the partition and transfer the data to something useful. B) Bring the disk to a machine with windows and transfer the data to something useful or C) Wait until NTFS specs are released and a util is made to fix NTFS parititons and then transfer the data to something useful.
[02:08] <frogzoo> jubei_: read the topic & install the older xserver core mentioned
[02:08] <lukketto> jubei: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[02:08] <bradbury9> jubei_: me too, perhaps editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <Schalken> is there a GNOME frontend to CVS?
[02:09] <lukketto> eyequeue: thx
[02:09] <rkd> fdr: mv FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1.2
[02:09] <eyequeue> lukketto, np
[02:09] <bradbury9> i'll try sudo apt-get ...
[02:09] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell jubei_ about xorgbug
[02:09] <frogzoo> !xorgbug
[02:09] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[02:09] <Schalken> ubotu: cvs
[02:09] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:09] <Zonoid> How can I get my WI-FI card working with Ubuntu?
[02:10] <daurnimator> BlueEagle: i CAN convert it to fat32 (i think)
[02:10] <rkd> fdr: then try and install ia32-libs again
[02:10] <jubei_> frogzoo & lukketto: So I take it I'm not the only one with this problem :) thanks guys
[02:10] <daurnimator> partition magic 8 can convert it
[02:10] <lukketto> ubotu: help
[02:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:10] <Schalken> Zonoid: start at System -> Administration -> Networking
[02:10] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: You might think/whish that.
[02:10] <Zonoid> Schalken: I did that. It doesn't seem to find my network though.
[02:10] <bnilsen> Anyone here using a PC Card 56KB modem with Ubuntu?
[02:11] <Schalken> do you need a WEP key?
[02:11] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: It depends. I don't think PQ8 will touch it since it's broken.
[02:11] <Schalken> Zonoid: ^^
[02:11] <Zonoid> Schalken: No.
[02:11] <xevil> jubei_: not hardly :)
[02:11] <dalila> since i cant really view those pages i amd doing the apt-get update thxs i will reboot and see
[02:11] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: however you can attempt to specify a size for the extended partition to fit with your logical partition.
[02:12] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: (provided that it is what is causing the error)
[02:12] <daurnimator> please explain
[02:12] <Schalken> Zonoid: better check if your wifi card is automatically configured...there was a page listing cards and how they work in ubuntu...
[02:12] <Schalken> somehwere in the wiki :p
[02:12] <fdr> rkd, still same error... but in the meanwhile I found the variables to unset so that it is shown in English: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21385
[02:12] <Goshawk> hi
[02:12] <Zonoid> Schalken: Okay. Thanks.
[02:12] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: man fdisk
[02:12] <Goshawk> xserver-xorg-core update of today broke my X server (dapper)
[02:12] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:12] <niekie> Hi, just a question about the Xorg troubles, it has already been patched and should appear on local mirrors in a while, right?
[02:12] <Schalken> is there a GNOME frontend or IDE for CVS?
[02:13] <eyequeue> niekie, right, /topic
[02:13] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: accordign to the fdisk report your extended partition is bigger than the logical partition that is on it.
[02:13] <niekie> eyequeue: Ok :)
[02:13] <gypsymauro> eyequeue: I saw but I can't use browser, there is a work around?
[02:13] <daurnimator> BlueEagle: correct
[02:13] <niekie> gypsymauro: using Lynx should work.
[02:13] <tom`> ah, I see I'm not the only one with x troubles
[02:13] <niekie> tom`: nope :)
[02:13] <eyequeue> gypsymauro, sudo apt-get install lynx
[02:13] <Goshawk> i can't use browser too
[02:13] <eyequeue> Goshawk,  sudo apt-get install lynx
[02:13] <niekie> Goshawk: try installing Lynx, a console based browser.
[02:14] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: This might be caused by one of two things. The extended partition actually being bigger or the superblock on the ntfs partition being broken and reporting the wrong size.
[02:14] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: I am guessing on the latter.
[02:14] <gypsymauro> there is not a bot with instructions?:)
[02:14] <eyequeue> !xorgbug
[02:14] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can downgrade. '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix' (or xorgbugfix-amd64 or xorgbugfix-ppc).
[02:14] <eyequeue> !xorgbugfix
[02:14] <daurnimator> .. i set it up like that
[02:14] <ubotu> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[02:14] <daurnimator> :S
[02:14] <Goshawk> niekie: ok, but how to see the topic of this channel (the url) with irssi?
[02:14] <daurnimator> its meant to be that way
[02:14] <rkd> fdr: i'm not sure, but brb in a few minutes
[02:14] <niekie> Goshawk: /topic
[02:14] <BlueEagle> goshawk: /topic
[02:14] <rkd> fdr: see if aptitude reinstall libgl1 does anything :/
[02:15] <dalila> thanks guy  it worked, i did notice the update wants to update pkg again  should i do it or block it ?
[02:15] <Goshawk> uhm.... i've the version that ubotu says in my apt chace
[02:15] <eyequeue> Goshawk, sudo dpkg -i then
[02:15] <Goshawk> eyequeue: trying
[02:15] <lamego> dalila, install from http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[02:15] <lamego> its the updated package, which fixes the problem
[02:16] <lamego> could someone update the bot fix :P ?
[02:16] <Goshawk> done... now i need a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:16] <Goshawk> hoping that it will work
[02:16] <lamego> Goshawk, you shouldn't need to reconfigure
[02:17] <eyequeue> Goshawk, a restart isn't enough?  the old config was nuked?
[02:17] <dalila> lamego:why cant the update manager do that if they know the issue
[02:17] <fdr> rkd, unfortunately it doesn't... output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21386  ... please let me know when you're back...
[02:17] <lamego> dalila, they dit, it will take some hours to get update
[02:17] <lamego> dalila, they dit, it will take some hours to get updated on the update servers
[02:17] <daurnimator> AHHH
[02:17] <daurnimator> i know the problem
[02:17] <daurnimator> i think
[02:17] <dalila> lamego: i am on vacation and converted my family to ubuntu :-)  dont want to work to hard
[02:17] <daurnimator> its in a JBOD array
[02:17] <Goshawk> lamego: eyequeue i tried to reconfigure it with the new xorg-core many times, the working configuration seems to be missing now
[02:17] <bimberi> lamego: hm, only an i386 fix
[02:17] <eyequeue> Goshawk, ahhhh
[02:17] <lamego> Goshawk, ah ok :)
[02:17] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: I really do regret that you're unable to mount the ntfs partition and I'm sorry but I cannot see a way for linux to fix the issue.
[02:17] <daurnimator> and its seeing that the partition table goes over the end of the disk
[02:18] <deniz_ogut> Hello Dear Friends: About that x issie: I managed to solve the problem by DOWNGRADING . But Ubuntu still offers me the broken update via syaptics? Way? I saw the codes in the Forum to solve the problem but what I stay without doing anything. Won't synaptic offer me the latest working file soon?
[02:18] <daurnimator> and gets an error
[02:18] <dalila> lamego: so i downloaded the package how do i upgrade from commandl ine
[02:18] <lamego> bimberi, i guess the other will come on the next hourts...
[02:18] <eyequeue> deniz_ogut, hours, yes
[02:18] <lamego> dalila, you coucl open the package from fireofox, and install it from there
[02:18] <gypsymauro> dalila: dpkg -i
[02:18] <deniz_ogut> so, not to do anything is the best.
[02:18] <lamego> or download and : sudo dpkg -i package
[02:18] <bradbury9> deniz_ogut: as soon as they put it in the repos I suppose
[02:18] <eyequeue> bradbury9, it's there, it just needs to propagate
[02:19] <Goshawk> it works!!!
[02:19] <Goshawk> thanks guy
[02:19] <eyequeue> np
[02:19] <Goshawk> but please be less brave with the stable release
[02:19] <Goshawk> :D
[02:20] <pluma> Is it safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package? I want to remove GAIM because it's of no use for me because it has some kind of arbitrarily low buddy limit, which is ridiculous for a multi-protocol messenger.
[02:20] <deniz_ogut> thanks. but why can't friends in the headquarter delete that broken file. Is it technically impossible? Many people just logged in still broke their system at the very moment.
[02:20] <dalila> restarting x to make sure it workds
[02:20] <eyequeue> pluma, yes, it is a meta package
[02:20] <pluma> And ubuntu-desktop seems to depend on gaim for no obvious reason.
[02:20] <pluma> eyequeue: Does anything actually need the package then?
[02:20] <pluma> eyequeue: as in, will I notice it's missing?
[02:21] <eyequeue> pluma, no, its purpose is to pull in other packages, which you already did
[02:21] <pluma> Also, what is a better alternative to GAIM? I don't want to have to go and download Miranda again (if there is a Linux version anyway).
[02:21] <eyequeue> pluma, you may want to put it back just before you dist-upgrade to edgy though
[02:21] <dalila> thanks again
[02:21] <oskude> !better
[02:21] <mc__> pluma: psi
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <eyequeue> pluma, some seem to like amsn, though i've never touched it
[02:22] <niekie> You could also use Jabber with transports to other protocols :)
[02:24] <lukketto> !xgl
[02:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:24] <pluma> eyequeue: amsn is not multi-protocol, it seems.
[02:24] <mc__> pluma: but psi is
[02:24] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: jbod might be set up as an md array.
[02:25] <eyequeue> pluma, doesn't sound it, and i know no one on that protocol myself, so i haven't tried it
[02:25] <pluma> niekie: I think ICQ doesn't work with Jabber. MSN does, tho.
[02:25] <Goshawk_> hi
[02:25] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: device*
[02:25] <mc__> pluma: icq does work
[02:25] <niekie> pluma: there are ICQ transports to my knowledge.
[02:25] <dalila> now how long would microsoft would of taken to fix something like that!!!! bravo ubuntu for such a quick fix
[02:25] <BlueEagle> daurnimator: do you have any reference to md0 with sudo fdisk -l ?
[02:25] <Zonoid> What permissions do I have to set for my a new user account so I can delete the "oem" account and still have complete control over my computer?
[02:26] <Goshawk_> i've upgraded libc to edgy version to test some packages, now each python/perl script return an error with locales (also emacs) and they use the "C" locale. how o fix it? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales did nothing...
[02:26] <[b] urk> you mean on windows?
[02:26] <dalila> is there a dvd writer app i think xcdroast only works with CD/rw
[02:26] <NineTeen67Comet> Eeek .. I kind of screwed my gdm greeter screen up .. I tried to change it to another type and when I restarted X it warned me the the gdm greeter was not correctly configured and that I had to edit it manually. Help?
[02:26] <[b] urk> gnomebaker
[02:26] <BlueEagle> goshawk_: #ununtu+1 for edgy discussion.
[02:26] <unfun> Hello Iv'e got a printer Dell-Laser-Printer-3100cn and I ve got drives for it to but I don't know how to install them
[02:26] <pluma> I need a messenger that supports the defaults: ICQ and AIM, MSNM, Jabber, YIM.
[02:26] <Goshawk_> BlueEagle: thanks
[02:26] <eyequeue> Zonoid, sudo sudoedit
[02:26] <[b] urk> dalila, gnomebaker or k3b (kde app)
[02:27] <mc__> pluma: psi,use psi
[02:27] <Zonoid> eyeqeue: Both of them?
[02:27] <NineTeen67Comet> pluma: .. gaim works well with all those ..
[02:27] <Goshawk_> #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <pluma> NineTeen67Comet: gaim has a buddy limit of, like, 20. I have about 100 or more buddies.
[02:27] <pluma> NineTeen67Comet: Also, I just don't like it.
[02:28] <NineTeen67Comet> pluma aha .. I dunno then .. kde has something too .. but I forget the name ..
[02:28] <tyler_d> how do I tell what is installed with wine?
[02:28] <pluma> mc__: O_o You seem a bit euphoric about psi.
[02:28] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i have a camera connected which uses a cf card. is it possible to browse it in nautilus or similar, since it has some files that the photo importer hasn't picked up?
[02:28] <pluma> Alright, I'll try psi.
[02:29] <bradbury9> One thing I bless linux for: irsii & links2. Thanks for the XOrg-server downgrade info folks..
[02:29] <malefico> hi guys
[02:29] <xevil> thanks for the help guys...
[02:30] <malefico>  I have installed some ttf fonts in my ubuntu...
[02:30] <malefico> using the mkfontscale, mkfontdir method
[02:30] <ajnin> hello lads. i am having a proble installing ubuntu 6.06 desktop i386 from a cd. the error i get is the following :     Uncompressing Linux... invalid compressed format (err=2)  system halted
[02:30] <malefico> now, firefox and most apps see these fonts
[02:30] <Zonoid> What permissions do I have to set for my a new user account so I can delete the "oem" account and still have complete control over my computer?
[02:30] <mc__> ajnin: get a new cd
[02:30] <ajnin> do u know what might be the fault for that?
[02:30] <malefico> but somehow, fvwm-crystal cannot find them
[02:31] <cello_rasp> how do i set my machines ip address permanaently
[02:31] <lassegs> cello_rasp: set it in network manager
[02:31] <ajnin> mc__, i downloaded it. i have the iso image. the md5sum is good.
[02:31] <malefico> what's the ubuntu method to install new ttf fonts and let X to see them ?
[02:31] <cello_rasp> lassegs: i only have server
[02:31] <eyequeue> cello_rasp, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, man interfaces
[02:31] <bimberi> Zonoid: you need to be a member of the admin group, which gives you sudo access
[02:32] <eyequeue> Zonoid, and sudo sudoedit
[02:32] <Zonoid> Bimber: And "main group" can just say "user"?
[02:32] <lassegs> cello_rasp: edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[02:32] <ajnin> mc__, shall i rewrite the cd?
[02:32] <Zonoid> Bimberi: I don't see sudo edit anywhere.
[02:32] <lassegs> cello_rasp: its pretty basic stuff, it shouldnt be to hard to understand
[02:33] <ubuntu> 
[02:33] <NineTeen67Comet> I lost me gdm login screen after trying one from gnome-art .. anyone got an idea how to get that back? (It simply puts me in cli .. ) ..
[02:33] <bimberi> Zonoid: yes, best for the main group to be the same as the username.  'sudo visudo' will edit the sudoers file (/etc/sudoers)
[02:33] <phreakys_> is there a helpchannel for compiz?
[02:33] <TheGateKeeper> ajnin: I would do the 'self-test' on the CD and I would check your hdd with bad block, and of course you could retry burning the iso
[02:33] <erUSUL> NineTeen67Comet: maybe it was the x breakage See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:33] <bimberi> !xgl
[02:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:34] <treeshoe> what is a great distro for 64 bit pcs?
[02:34] <NineTeen67Comet> phreakys_:  you can try #ubuntu-xgl or just #xgl ..
[02:34] <pluma> mc__: Now how do I add non-Jabber accounts (e.g. AIM and ICQ)
[02:34] <malefico> what's the ubuntu method to install new ttf fonts and let X to see them ?
[02:34] <TheGateKeeper> ajnin: badblocks*
[02:34] <erUSUL> !fonts > malefico
[02:34] <ajnin> TheGateKeeper, i formatted the drive yesterday and no errors occured.
[02:34] <phreakys_> tnx comet
[02:35] <rkd> fdr: ok, i'm back
[02:35] <Ljuben> hi. upgraded from breeze to dapper. after reboot it does not start the xserver. the error is - failed to load module GLcore. Any ideas how to proceeed?
[02:35] <fdr> rkd, great, thanks
[02:35] <TheGateKeeper> ajnin: I formated a maxtor but it still had plenty of problems, you need to check it
[02:35] <Olek> i get x error too
[02:36] <Olek> not even upgraded
[02:36] <NineTeen67Comet> erUSUL: thanks .. I'll give 'er a try ..
[02:36] <erUSUL> NineTeen67Comet: no problem
[02:36] <NineTeen67Comet> c'mon machine .. shutdown -r now .. hehehe
[02:36] <Olek> i mean not from dapper to anything, i upgraded package and x wont start now
[02:36] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I enable the -f parameter of rm to be asked to confirm all delete statements?
[02:36] <fdr> rkd, what do you suggest me to try next, please?
[02:36] <wulax> does someone know if it's possible to apply themes from gcompizthemer without restarting cgwd?
[02:36] <rkd> fdr: when was the last time you did aptitude update?
[02:36] <erUSUL> Olek: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:36] <fdr> some ten mins ago
[02:36] <malefico> erUSUL, thanks !
[02:37] <erUSUL> malefico: no problem
[02:37] <bradbury9> treeshoe,  I like ubuntu amd64. Have not tested debian 64 bits, but it also seems to be good
[02:37] <rkd> fdr: ok, it's probably not that, then
[02:37] <fdr> rkd, some ten mins ago, but the problem with updating ia32-libs showed up several weeks ago
[02:37] <fdr> rks but I never had time to deal with it
[02:37] <tom_> fabbione: you maintain xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2ubuntu10.3 right?
[02:38] <TheGateKeeper> ajnin: if the iso image is good, the CDROM is good the CD Media is good, the burn is good, the HDD is good it will install, the fact that it isn't tells you one of these variables is problematic
[02:38] <Olek> lol just read the topic
[02:38] <monteiro> i've downgraded the xorg package, and still not working :( (using nvidia-glx)
[02:39] <linuxd00d> hi all, my system sensors seemed to fail on boot? is that a bad thing?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> thegatekeeper: some lappys and gfx cards still need vga safe mode.
[02:39] <snooo> my X is broken, can someone give me help on IRC? have no access to a web terminal
[02:39] <rkd> fdr: try removing ia32-libs-gtk, ia32-libs-openoffice.org and xorg-driver-fglrx (unless you're actively using fglrx, in which case that might be a bad idea) and reinstall them all
[02:39] <POVaddct> snooo: read the topic
[02:39] <snooo> POVaddct: i have, i can't access a web browser
[02:39] <erUSUL> snooo: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:39] <eyequeue> snooo, sudo apt-get install lynx
[02:39] <fdr> rkd, with apt-get remove?
[02:40] <linuxd00d> my system sensors seemed to fail on boot? is that a bad thing?
[02:40] <POVaddct> snooo: there are textmode web browsers
[02:40] <snooo> erUSUL: thanks
[02:40] <TheGateKeeper> BlueEagle: where did that come from? you got me mixed up with someone else?
[02:40] <bradbury9> snooo, apt-cache search links
[02:40] <rkd> fdr: i use aptitude purge, but apt-get remove probably works the same, yeah
[02:40] <eyequeue> linuxd00d, happens here too at least
[02:40] <BlueEagle> thegatekeeper: I'm just saying that your list of prerequisites is flawed. You'll also need a BIOS that's able to boot from cd-rom. :)
[02:40] <snooo> POVaddct: yes i know, but i dont have the time to copy down a url and type it in - i need to get back to work. was just asking for help
[02:41] <linuxd00d> eyequeue: will this effect my system in any way?
[02:41] <eyequeue> snooo, sudo apt-get install lynx, then /topic
[02:41] <erUSUL> snooo: the comand i gave will work
[02:41] <fdr> rkd, ok, trying with aptitude...
[02:41] <BlackBrain> anyone have install the fwbuilder 2.1 on ubuntu?
[02:41] <eyequeue> linuxd00d, doesn't here at least, no clue the cause though
[02:41] <linuxd00d> ok, kool
[02:42] <fdr> rkd, it still complains... :-(
[02:42] <lassegs> eyequeue: youre misunderstanding this
[02:42] <eyequeue> lassegs, misunderstanding what?
[02:42] <TheGateKeeper> BlueEagle: won't some lappys boot of the cdrom then?
[02:42] <monteiro> erUSUL: i did that, but still not works (i'm using hp pavilion dv5000 with nvidia)
[02:42] <rkd> fdr: complains about what, uninstalling or reinstalling?
[02:43] <lassegs> eyequeue: type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10    then reboot
[02:43] <linuxd00d> lassegs, on boot it says that my sensors failed to boot
[02:43] <fdr> uninstalling
[02:43] <fdr> rkd, uninstalling
[02:43] <erUSUL> monteiro: have you rebooted, restarting x will not do the trick
[02:43] <eyequeue> lassegs, why would i do that?
[02:43] <monteiro> erUSUL: i rebooted
[02:43] <rkd> fdr: can you pastebin it?
[02:43] <lassegs> eyequeue: didnt you want to fix ur x?
[02:43] <monteiro> erUSUL: i'm going to try halting
[02:43] <hans_> Good morning... ;-)
[02:43] <fdr> sure
[02:44] <eyequeue> lassegs, no, i'm in x now
[02:44] <antoinjapan> Hey guys, my page up/down keys don't work.  It's an dell inspiron laptop.  In Keyboard shortcuts it doesn list page up/down.
[02:44] <BlueEagle> thegatekeeper: Mind you that I did not read the question to which you were answering. If the matter pertains simply to get the boot menu then vga safe mode has got nothing to do with it. If it pertains to getting the live cd up and running (which many call 'boot') then vga safe-mode might be a factor.
[02:44] <lassegs> eyequeue: i must have seen wrong. sorry
[02:44] <eyequeue> lassegs, no prob
[02:44] <antoinjapan> anyone have any ideas?
[02:44] <erUSUL> monteiro: well maybe your breakage is not related with the update... maybe is something else
[02:45] <v-man-1> is it safe to upgrade X yet?
[02:45] <fabbione> tom_: no i don't
[02:45] <lamego> v-man-1, not yet, unless you do it manually
[02:45] <hans_> A big problem: kubuntu made an update of xserver-common or like that. Now xserver dont restart... what should i do?
[02:45] <v-man-1> kk cheers
[02:45] <fdr> rkd,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21389
[02:45] <rkd> thanks
[02:45] <lassegs> hans_: read the topic
[02:46] <lassegs> we should make ubotu just say "read topic" every time someones join the channel :P
[02:46] <hans_> The topic in text mode is only "If X is broken after a recent update"
[02:46] <markrian> v-man-1: there is updated package available on the servers now, version 10.4
[02:46] <hans_> More i cant read... sorry....
[02:46] <erUSUL> hans_: See topic and use 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' and reboot to fix the breakage.
[02:47] <hans_> Thank you erUSUL!
[02:47] <mRCUTEO> is there any command to broadcast messages in ubuntu dapper?
[02:47] <erUSUL> hans_: no problem.. is a well known bug now...
[02:47] <eyequeue> wall (1)             - write a message to users
[02:48] <eyequeue> mRCUTEO, ^^
[02:48] <mRCUTEO> it wont work
[02:48] <TheGateKeeper> BlueEagle: he had an install CD that seemed like it was failing, usually it's down to a dodgy iso, media or HDD, he had formatted it so assumed it was ok, I have found out from bitter experience that isn't always the case, I was just giving him things to look at
[02:48] <mRCUTEO> eyequeue:
[02:48] <xxpor2> configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation.
[02:48] <mRCUTEO> usage: wall [file] 
[02:48] <mRCUTEO> root@216:~#
[02:48] <Crazed> bleh
[02:49] <xxpor2> how can i fix that
[02:49] <Crazed> why cant I upgrade the xserver-xorg-core package ..
[02:49] <hans_> Oh my god...
[02:49] <Crazed> if I upgrade to the newest version my X wont run anymore ;P
[02:49] <rkd> fdr: all your errors seem to revolve around libGL.so.1.2 somehow, but beyond that i'm really not sure what's going on, and forcing uninstalls might break your system more....
[02:49] <hans_> i've thought that ubuntu is a secure system...
[02:49] <jstew> Hi. I upgraded the xserver-xorg-core package and now my nvidia driver is hosed. How do I fix it?
[02:49] <lamego> jstew, read the topic
[02:49] <rkd> Crazed, jstew: topic
[02:49] <eyequeue> mRCUTEO, echo foo | wall
[02:49] <lassegs> hans_: still is
[02:50] <TheGateKeeper> Crazed: if it's 10.3 correct
[02:50] <hans_> Yes, but why is xorg now broken?
[02:50] <fdr> rkd, I definitely agree :-)
[02:50] <jstew> doh. thanks.
[02:50] <Crazed> idd
[02:50] <fdr> rkd, time for a complete reinstall?
[02:50] <Crazed> why did they add this update ..
[02:50] <lamego> hans_, because someone did a mistake, human things
[02:50] <Crazed> if it isnt working
[02:50] <Crazed> ah ok :)
[02:50] <bimberi> !xorgbug
[02:50] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[02:50] <Crazed> bad mistake :P
[02:50] <BlueEagle> thegatekeeper: Well it's not a bad or erroneous list but it's not complete and you made it sound complete. Even using CD-RWs is a common reason for it. But that's no biggie. :)
[02:50] <rkd> hans_: that doesn't make it insecure
[02:50] <eyequeue> Crazed, obviously it works on some machines
[02:51] <eyequeue> Crazed, such as mine, such as the maintainers
[02:51] <hans_> Okay, thank you very much for your help...
[02:51] <Crazed> ah ok
[02:51] <Crazed> anyway ..
[02:51] <lamego> eyequeue, whats why testing is expected to be done by a lot common users, not maintaners :)
[02:51] <jstew> That's stupid. Don't these types of things get tested? xorg-core upgrade?
[02:51] <danzat> Does anyone here have some experience in getting Enemy-Territory to run properly?
[02:51] <Crazed> to fix it I have to udpate to 10.4 :P
[02:51] <rkd> fdr: there's probably a way to fix it, we just don't know what it us :/
[02:51] <Crazed> I will try it
[02:51] <lamego> danzat, it is running fine on me, just did a standard install...
[02:52] <xxpor2> Crazed, if you have an nvidia card, you have to install the propritary drivers
[02:52] <pluma> mc__:  are you there?
[02:52] <rkd> what it is, rather
[02:52] <wulax> does someone know if it's possible to apply themes from gcompizthemer without restarting cgwd?
[02:52] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:52] <Crazed> xxpor2, the what drivers ?
[02:52] <danzat> lamego: I just can't seem to get it to run in fullscreen mode
 Seriously, stuff like this needs to be tested better. </rant>
[02:53] <Crazed> xxpor2,  what drivers do you mean ?
[02:53] <xxpor2> !nvidia > xxpor
[02:53] <rkd> jstew: so volunteer to become a developer
[02:53] <jstew> I might...
[02:53] <Tinned_Tuna> how can I find if a WiFi card is fully supported Out of the box?
[02:53] <xxpor2> Crazed, when you install ubuntu, you need to upgrade the graphics drivers to support 3d acceleration
[02:53] <jstew> I can do pythin dev, but have no xorg experience.
[02:54] <eXistenZ> How does an executable file differ from a non-executable one?
[02:54] <jstew> err pythin even.
[02:54] <Crazed> erm I have that ..
[02:54] <Crazed> I installed the correct drivers :)
[02:54] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, +x
[02:54] <xxpor2> !nvidia > Crazed
[02:54] <xxpor2> o
[02:54] <jstew> phhth. Myabe I've had too much coffee but you know what I mean :)
[02:54] <xxpor2> ic
[02:54] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, man chmod
[02:54] <emmet> Em... an 'xorg-core' upgrade just busted my laptop, I get the impression I'm not the only person affected. Is there a solution?
[02:54] <hans_> Thank you very much for your help! now i am here with X again...
[02:54] <eyequeue> emmet, /topic
[02:54] <xxpor2> Crazed, whats the problem you are having then exactly
[02:54] <Tinned_Tuna> !wifi > Tinned_Tuna
[02:54] <bimberi> !xorgbug > emmet
[02:54] <Crazed> w8 ill paste it on pastebin
[02:54] <TheGateKeeper> BlueEagle: fair enough :-) I use mainly desktops so would necessarily know all about lappies too. point I was trying to make to the guy, was if everything was ok it would install, the fact that it wasn't ment he needed to investigate to try and find out which bit of the chain was broken
[02:55] <TheGateKeeper> BlueEagle: point taken :-)
[02:55] <axisme> Tinned_Tuna, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[02:55] <Tinned_Tuna> axisme: thanks :)
[02:55] <emmet> eyequeue: thanks, missed that :)
[02:55] <eyequeue> emmet, np
[02:56] <textshell> with this recent X-Org breakage, can't someone of the canonical sysadmins just rm the borked version?
[02:56] <jstew> Thanks guys, downgrading X worked.
[02:56] <danzat> lamego: are you with me?
[02:56] <eyequeue> textshell, /topic, it's already replaced
[02:56] <kaot> x got b0rked?
[02:56] <Crazed> xxpor2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21390
[02:57] <Crazed> thats what I get when I update ..
[02:57] <kaot> rovery
[02:57] <eyequeue> textshell, propagation takes time
[02:57] <Crazed> I reinstalled the nvidia driver after that but still had the same problem
[02:57] <Ljuben> how can I downgrade xorg from 7.0 to 6.8?
[02:57] <Crazed> so I downgraded the xorg-core again
[02:57] <eyequeue> kaot, 2 security patches, sigh
[02:57] <kaot> well, someone tell me when the unb0rked version goes out so I can upgrade  :\
[02:58] <textshell> eyequeue: no security.ubuntu.com still has the borked version (just checked) and is directly unter canonicals control...
[02:58] <eyequeue> kaot, whenever your mirros next syncs
[02:58] <Ljuben> Crazed: how do u downgrade. after upgrade to 7.0 i have no X at all
[02:58] <mRCUTEO> WHATS THE DIFFERENT BETWWEEN AND UBUNTU?
[02:58] <Ljuben> i want to revert
[02:58] <Crazed> w8
[02:58] <constantine-xvi> anyone know about a good notebook program for ubuntu?
[02:58] <eyequeue> textshell, again, this takes time to propagate, READ the url in the /topic
[02:59] <Crazed> Ljuben, try this first:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[02:59] <textshell> eyequeue: I did read lunchpad.
[02:59] <dungodung> I've just updated my dapper and xorg failed
[02:59] <xxpor2> Crazed, did you upgrade X? and what video card do you have?
[02:59] <lassegs> constantine-xvi: you mean like tomboy?
[02:59] <Crazed> didnt try it yet but that is the fix I got here ..
[02:59] <oskude> http://capsoff.org/
[02:59] <Crazed> Nvidia gf 5950 ultra 256mb
[02:59] <lamego> danzat, i need to go, sorry
[02:59] <xxpor2> ok
[02:59] <jstew> Usually I wait to see what others say about an upgrade. This time I didn't. Lesson learned :)
[02:59] <Tinned_Tuna> axisme: in the wiki docs on WiFi, I found my card, it says supported, but in the comments it says 'revision B1 4.10' What does this mean, please?
[02:59] <Crazed> and yes I upgraded X from the update manager ..
[03:00] <erUSUL> !caps > mRCUTEO
[03:00] <textshell> eyequeue: But i wonder why ubuntu doesn't do some fast stop gap fix. Ok that would need to be done by the server admins, but i think it would be better.
[03:00] <Crazed> then I got that 10.3 version ..
[03:00] <constantine-xvi> lassegs: not a sticky note program, a full notebook-like program, sortof like MSO onenote
[03:00] <Crazed> and X wouldnt reboot after that
[03:00] <oskude> Tinned_Tuna: the version of your card...
[03:00] <Crazed> now I downgraded to 10. version
[03:00] <Tinned_Tuna> ahh ok
[03:00] <Vliegendehuiskat> Crazed, the onswer is in the topic
[03:00] <air-boy> hi
[03:00] <Crazed> yes I know Vliegendehuiskat
[03:00] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[03:00] <Crazed> but xxpor2 was asking something
[03:00] <Zonoid> How can I delete the "oem" account? When I try to delete it, it keeps coming back.
[03:00] <air-boy> i have same problam and no reply at: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121298
[03:00] <Tinned_Tuna> ... and what if I can't find my WiFi card in the docs?
[03:01] <lassegs> constantine-xvi: then i dont know. but if you havent tried tomboy i would  recommend trying it out, cause it really is super!
[03:01] <jstew> Crazed: this downgrade works for me: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:01] <Crazed> I know :P
[03:01] <Crazed> already did
[03:01] <dfdfdfd> como instalo el grub
[03:01] <oskude> Tinned_Tuna: then you propably have to google and try it out...
[03:01] <constantine-xvi> lassegs: i use it, just doesnt seem good for handling tons of notes (read as: college classes)
[03:01] <jstew> lol, OK.
[03:01] <Crazed> xxpor2, was asking me something else :)
[03:01] <xxpor2> Crazed, ya i thought becuase you said ET, it was a driver problem :P
[03:02] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm, ok
[03:02] <Crazed> nope :P
[03:02] <air-boy> anybody plz http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121298
[03:02] <Crazed> its fixed now
[03:02] <phreakys> hm
[03:02] <xxpor2> good :D
[03:02] <lassegs> constantine-xvi:  i did that and it worked greate
[03:02] <Crazed> its just the reg. prob with the xorg-core driver ..
[03:02] <phreakys> got a fix for the not-selecting theming thing
[03:02] <Mely59000> irc://irc.recycled-irc.net/azk
[03:02] <Zonoid> Does anyone know how to delete the "oem" account?
[03:02] <Mely59000> zut
[03:02] <Mely59000> sorry
[03:02] <danzat> Can anyone else help me? Enemy Territoty refuses to run at fullscreen mode
[03:03] <xxpor2> danzat,  thats quite odd
[03:03] <axisme> danzat, using cedega ?
[03:03] <danzat> nope
[03:03] <Mely59000>  /server irc.Recycled-IRC.net
[03:03] <Mely59000> arf
[03:03] <xxpor2> lol
[03:03] <Mely59000> pff
[03:03] <danzat> axisme, nope
[03:03] <eXistenZ> what does touch do?
[03:03] <lamego> eXistenZ, man touch
[03:03] <eXistenZ> lamego, and which?
[03:03] <Crazed> does anyone here know a good solution for Teamspeak ?
[03:03] <rkd> Zonoid: userdel oem?
[03:03] <xxpor2> eXistenZ, creates a blank text file with the name you specify
[03:03] <lamego> eXistenZ, type: man touch on the terminal
[03:03] <eyequeue> Zonoid, man deluser
[03:03] <textshell> eXistenZ: touch creates a file and sets the last change time.
[03:04] <Zonoid> rkd: I type this in the terminal?
[03:05] <rkd> Zonoid: yes
[03:05] <shiv> what do I do here
[03:05] <shiv> shiv@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[03:05] <shiv> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:05] <shiv> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:05] <eyequeue> !pastebin > shiv
[03:05] <Zonoid> rkd: When I try userdel oem, it says that oem is already logged in. But I'm not logged in as OEM.
[03:05] <eyequeue> shiv, close whatever has the lock
[03:05] <xxpor2> shiv, something else is using the package manager
[03:06] <textshell> Zonoid: try ps axu | grep oem
[03:06] <rkd> Zonoid: use the 'who' command to check
[03:06] <tuxtux> reboot
[03:06] <shiv> eyequeue: Thanks
[03:06] <eyequeue> shiv, np
[03:06] <shiv> xxpor2: thanks
[03:06] <xxpor2> np :)
[03:06] <airboy> hi
[03:06] <airboy> i have same problam no reply at all: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121298
[03:07] <eXistenZ> lamego, ponemayet ruski?
[03:07] <Crazed> xxpor2,  do you know a good solution for Teamspeak under linux ?
[03:07] <xxpor2> no
[03:07] <textshell> Zonoid: grep -r oem /etc   might be interessting too..
[03:07] <Crazed> hmm ok :)
[03:07] <xxpor2> dont use teamspeak
[03:07] <Crazed> to bad :p
[03:07] <airboy> i want to remove this gforge-db-postgresql
[03:07] <xxpor2> lol
[03:07] <Zonoid> textshell: I don't know what that stuff means.
[03:07] <Crazed> well what else to use haha
[03:07] <xxpor2> nothing wtf
[03:07] <xxpor2> ftw
[03:07] <Crazed> ..
[03:07] <selinuxium> Hi all, I have run an gui app via sudo and not gksu and borked my GDM. I have forgotten how to sort it. Any ideas?
[03:07] <xxpor2> got a little dislecsic there
[03:07] <xxpor2> lol
[03:08] <textshell> Zonoid: the ps thing displays processes that are running. so you should be able to see what is running as user oem
[03:08] <Zonoid> rkd: I did who, and it says oem : 0
[03:08] <Zonoid> textshell: Oh. Okay.
[03:08] <rkd> Zonoid: is that the only line?
[03:08] <Zwoof> hello everyone
[03:08] <rkd> Zonoid: if so, you are logged in as oem
[03:08] <xxpor2> hi Zwoof
[03:09] <Zonoid> rkd: But in the terminal, it says my username before what I type.
[03:09] <Zwoof> good to hear that other have x-server problems!
[03:09] <Zwoof> so to speak
[03:09] <Zonoid> rkd: There are two other lines with my username.
[03:09] <airboy> anybody plz: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121298
[03:09] <eyequeue> Zonoid, reboot will log everyone off
[03:09] <textshell> selinuxium: check for root owned files in you home directory ls -l ~ | grep root
[03:10] <Zonoid> eyequeue: I'll try that. Thanks.
[03:10] <Zwoof> I'm sitting here i China with a laptop, surfing with lynx. Having problem to get the right link in the topic about the x-server bug
[03:10] <rkd> Zonoid: grep "yourusername\|oem" /etc/passwd
[03:10] <Zwoof> My characters are a bit messed up
[03:10] <textshell> selinuxium: but check first that you are not "just" affected by the borked xserver update (see topic)
[03:10] <rambo3> down with couminsm , zwoof that will get you 2 years in prison
[03:11] <Zwoof> rambo3: hehe, thanks
[03:11] <Zwoof> rambo3: you spell english about as good as the chinese
[03:11] <oskude> airboy: youre using ubuntu 5.10 ?
[03:11] <eyequeue> Zwoof, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[03:11] <Saylock> bonjour
[03:11] <airboy> nope dapper
[03:11] <airboy> 6.01
[03:12] <oskude> airboy: then why do you ask about 5.10 in your post ?
[03:12] <Zwoof> eyequeeue: is it supposed to be plus-signs in the address?
[03:12] <airboy> i also try apt-get remove --ignore-missing --purge gforge*
[03:12] <eyequeue> Zwoof, yes
[03:12] <airboy> coz i have same problam
[03:12] <airboy> that is why
[03:12] <rambo3> its not about correctness its about the speed
[03:12] <smelly_sox> my sox stink
[03:12] <Zwoof> eyequ: thanks, will try again. super!
[03:13] <airboy> i did reinstall this gforge-db-postgresql then remove but same happning
[03:13] <airboy> its just not getride i want to install anothere packge
[03:13] <airboy> but i need to remove this first
[03:14] <selinuxium> textshell: the root owned files have nothing to do with gdm/X
[03:14] <oskude> airboy: just a lol hack test, do "sudo touch /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf" (if it doesnt exist as the error sais) an try remove again...
[03:14] <airboy> touch: cannot touch `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory
[03:14] <textshell> selinuxium: .xauthority root owned does cause a lot of trouble with X login.
[03:14] <oskude> airboy: hmm, so theres no /etc/postgresql dir ?
[03:14] <airboy> yep
[03:15] <Zonoid> X Server graphics just failed when I tried to boot. It was working before. What happened?
[03:15] <airboy> Removing gforge-db-postgresql cp: cannot stat `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory
[03:15] <tom_> hmz, I've upgraded my xserver to 10.4 package but it still doesn't work :(
[03:15] <eyequeue> Zonoid, /topic
[03:15] <xxpor2> !xbug > Zonoid
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <xxpor2> hmm
[03:15] <Kennyout> lo xxpor2
[03:15] <rkd> !xorgbug
[03:15] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[03:15] <textshell> selinuxium: but if gdm isn't even starting up it's something else. Most likely the broken update
[03:15] <xxpor2> :D
[03:15] <xxpor2> lol
[03:15] <danzat> xxpor2, do you think you can help me with Enemy Territory?
[03:15] <tom_> "undefined symbol _glXLastContext"
[03:16] <oskude> airboy: well, follow the hack and create the dir...
[03:16] <xxpor2> danzat, whats the problem?
[03:16] <rkd> !xorgbug > Zonoid
[03:16] <selinuxium> textshell: I am going through it now. Thank for the pointers! :)
[03:16] <airboy> i did create dir but its same
[03:16] <danzat> xxpor2, can't get it to run in fullscreen mode
[03:16] <erUSUL> Zonoid: updated and fixed packages have been uploaded do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:16] <Crazed> is there something like klip for gnome ?
[03:16] <airboy> then its ask for configeration file i did create fake but its still not uninstalling
[03:16] <kupesoft> So I wasn't the only one having the X problems - does the newest update for X fix this bug?
[03:16] <airboy> is there any way apt-get forget this packge so i can install anyother
[03:16] <airboy> ?
[03:16] <textshell> selinuxium: but i should have written ls -la ~  | grep root
[03:16] <xxpor2> danzat, whats the error when you go fullscreen, paste the log in the paste bin, and copy the link here
[03:17] <selinuxium> textshell: oh yeah! i'll look again!
[03:17] <danzat> xxpor2, no error, it just won't go fullscreen, it stays in window mode, even if i tick "fullscreen: yes" in the game config
[03:17] <orbish> this major xorg bug, is it for the dapper repositories?
[03:17] <eyequeue> orbish, yes
[03:17] <oskude> airboy: maybe you can try -f with your remove command
[03:18] <orbish> sigh
[03:18] <h4ch3r> hello guys
[03:18] <h4ch3r> good morning
[03:18] <eyequeue> orbish, wait 24h then upgrade
[03:18] <airboy> i did but its say nothing
[03:18] <airboy> no update etc
[03:18] <textshell> orbish: it's in dapper-updates but AFIAK not in dapper-security
[03:18] <xxpor2> danzat, type cg_<tab> in the console, there should be a fullscreen cvar, try setting that to 1
[03:18] <orbish> eyequeue: i'll just use that downgrade command everyone has been using, i'm in the middle of a dapper upgrade from hoary
[03:19] <eyequeue> orbish, good idea
[03:19] <Kennyout> wait so im not the only one who can't use Live's graphical mode due to X?
[03:19] <cbx33> Hi all, got a problem, upgraded xserver-xorg-core, and now graphical is broken
[03:19] <cbx33> :(
[03:19] <xxpor2> Kennyout, omg
[03:19] <cbx33> No Screens Found
[03:19] <eyequeue> cbx33, /topic
[03:19] <monteiro> i've downgraded xserver-xorg-core, and still not working, anyone knows how to fix it? (I'm with a laptop hp pavilion with nvidia drivers)
[03:19] <xxpor2> Kennyout, i should have told u
[03:19] <xxpor2> i forgot
[03:19] <gnomefreak> cbx33: the fix is being released as we speak its hit some servers already
[03:19] <cbx33> gnomefreak: excellent
[03:19] <cbx33> thank you
[03:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:19] <cbx33> thought it was just me
[03:20] <gnomefreak> its everyone
[03:20] <cbx33> I had a upgraded compiz as well
[03:20] <monteiro> gnomefreak: you're saying that some servers have the fix already ?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> monteiro: correct
[03:20] <cbx33> Someone is gonna be in BIG trouble
[03:20] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, only some, not here somehow
[03:20] <orbish> gnomefreak, do you know a timeframe when the servers will be synced?
[03:20] <kupesoft> That X bug was huge - what happened?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> try the uk mirrors
[03:20] <gnomefreak> eyequeue: thats what i stated
[03:20] <gnomefreak> orbish: no
[03:20] <cbx33> gnomefreak: UK mirrors havn't changed yet as far as I can see
[03:20] <orbish> ok
[03:20] <kyja> kmidi cant open sequencer? I cant play midi
[03:21] <Kennyout> well xxpor2, lucklly someone told me about editing the sources.list file,  then attempting the update, but forgot to mention that one needs to set up the way to download them when CDing
[03:21] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, oh, i read "everyone" :)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> eyequeue: its broken for everyone :)
[03:21] <textshell> security.ubuntu.com finally has the update...
[03:21] <monteiro> -> its almost there :) - Failed to fetch http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[03:21] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, not for me, i've installed the "bad" and not needed to change it, even after reboot
[03:22] <Lynoure> I've gotten into the habit of always asking around before upgrading X :)
[03:22] <gnomefreak> well yeah like mine never died ;)
[03:22] <orbish> textshell, if i just used that in my sources.list, it should upgrade correctly then, right?
[03:22] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, i'm guessing it worked fine for the uploading maintainer too, heh
[03:22] <orbish> comment everything else out...
[03:22] <cbx33> gnomefreak: thanks I'm back !!!!
[03:22] <cbx33> brb
[03:22] <gnomefreak> cbx33: it hit your servers?
[03:23] <textshell> orbish: it should be allright. But don't blame me if it goes wrong *and* check that it's trying to upgrade to 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:23] <orbish> textshell, right on, if it breaks, no big deal, i'm patient
[03:23] <danzat> xxpor2, nope, no such variable
[03:23] <gnomefreak> im pretty sure its hit uk and gb mirrors but im not on dapper pc atm
[03:24] <tapox> Is X still broken?
[03:24] <tom_> yes
[03:24] <cbx33> gnomefreak, it has
[03:24] <cbx33> mine is fixed
[03:24] <xxpor2> danzat, ya im looking
[03:24] <Zwoof> eyequeye: if you're out there, it worked... thank you for the help. 10 points!
[03:24] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:24] <eyequeue> tapox, some mirrors yes
[03:24] <tapox> Okay, thanks.
[03:24] <eyequeue> Zwoof, :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> tapox: if you use the uk mirrors run update and upgrade the fix has been released
[03:25] <jstew> I'm gonna wait to upgrade
[03:25] <xxpor2> danzat, give me a min to do some googleing
[03:25] <Zwoof> thank God & Chairman Mao for lynx, irc and #ubuntu!
[03:25] <kupesoft> That X bug was very high profile - what happened?
[03:25] <Zwoof> =)
[03:25] <jstew> Couple of days should do it.
[03:25] <orbish> hahaha chairman mao
[03:25] <eyequeue> kupesoft, minimally tested deb in repo
[03:25] <truz`_1> Are others having a problem with the new xorg core update?
[03:25] <shiloh> hi all
[03:25] <Zwoof> orbish: I'm in China now, so I better include him. ;)
[03:25] <eyequeue> truz`_1, /topic
[03:25] <truz`_1> nm, just saw topic
[03:25] <truz`_1> sorry
[03:25] <kupesoft> eyequeue: >;
[03:25] <tapox> gnomefreak: I haven't installed the heathen update yet, so I'm just skipping over it.
[03:25] <jstew> Lots of people truz`_1
[03:25] <tom_> truz`_1: lots of people are having the same problem
[03:25] <kupesoft> eyequeue: why did that happen?
[03:25] <truz`_1> good work on the testing ;-)
[03:25] <orbish> zwoof: don't want to get your hands chopped off
[03:26] <shiloh> can somebody help me?
[03:26] <eyequeue> kupesoft, that happens when you rely upon humans
[03:26] <tom_> but some people's probs seem to be solved by new 10.4 package
[03:26] <jstew> ask ya question, maybe we have an answer shiloh
[03:26] <tom_> 10.4 package not working for me :(
[03:26] <Zwoof> orbish: hehe, exactly
[03:26] <WildChild> I want to install Dapper Drake on a computer that has a 3dfx voodoo 3 3000 video card. I had some problem showing the framebuffer but I solved it. Now, X starts in 640x480 mode and the installer is too big to be shown completely in the screen. Is there any way to make a text install with Dapper Drake?
[03:26] <eyequeue> kupesoft, it woeked on my machine, i'm sure it worked on the maintainer's too, no reason to think otherwise i suppose
[03:26] <kupesoft> eyequeue: I PROPOSE WE LET MACHINES DO THE PROGRAMMING!
[03:27] <CarlFK> what is a comman line util to set id3 tags?
[03:27] <Zwoof> gotta reboot. bye all
[03:27] <xxpor2> danzat, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22588.html
[03:27] <shiloh> how can i open my ssh?
[03:27] <Inferus> WildChild: you can do a server install
[03:27] <jstew> I, for one, welcome our new mechanized software developing overlords
[03:27] <Inferus> which is text-only
[03:27] <eyequeue> shiloh, "open"?
[03:27] <xxpor2> danzat, is the rez u are trying to use supported by x
[03:27] <WildChild> Inferus: will I be able to install X with the server install?
[03:27] <WildChild> same program installed?
[03:27] <Inferus> WildChild, not initially
[03:27] <Inferus> but once it boots up
[03:27] <Inferus> you login
[03:27] <WildChild> grrr :)
[03:27] <Inferus> and then type
[03:27] <CarlFK> shiloh: ?  (guessing you mean "how do I install sshd"
[03:27] <shiloh> ya
[03:27] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <jstew> ssh [flags]  <user@host>
[03:27] <WildChild> i know how to install x
[03:28] <Inferus> and it'll sort it out
[03:28] <WildChild> with dpkg
[03:28] <Inferus> no
[03:28] <Inferus> just do that
[03:28] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <WildChild> ok
[03:28] <Inferus> and it'll install the bits you're missing
[03:28] <Inferus> =] 
[03:28] <tapox> kupesoft: Letting the machines program themselves is simply allowing them to rise up, program and improve themselves.
[03:28] <eyequeue> shiloh, "open"?  what does that mean?
[03:28] <jstew> shiloh: sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[03:28] <WildChild> that suck because with 5.10 I was able to install without any problem...
[03:28] <shiloh> i have linux.. and i want to login from my other pc.. by using putty.
[03:28] <Inferus> WildChild i would personally recommend kubuntu-desktop it is very nice :D
[03:28] <WildChild> now I have a lot of problems with X and framebuffer
[03:28] <CarlFK> shiloh: apt-get install openssh-server
[03:28] <WildChild> I hate KDE :P
[03:28] <Inferus> ^^
[03:28] <shiloh> im just a begginer in linux.. sorry/.
[03:28] <eyequeue> shiloh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:28] <Inferus> ^
[03:29] <shiloh> i will just type that?
[03:29] <jstew> Well welcome aboard shiloh
[03:29] <textshell> eyequeue: open ist openssh is because it's developed by openbsd people.
[03:29] <shiloh> thank you :)\
[03:29] <danzat> xxpor2, yes
[03:29] <eyequeue> textshell, :)
[03:29] <WildChild> but there's not way to make a text install of graphical ubuntu?
[03:29] <Inferus> not afaik
[03:29] <shiloh> i will write that in  my terminal?
[03:29] <eyequeue> WildChild, use the alternate cd
[03:29] <Inferus> shiloh yes =] 
[03:29] <jstew> yes shiloh
[03:29] <xxpor2> danzat, ok hold on
[03:29] <danzat> xxpor2, it's my desktop res
[03:29] <jstew> then youll be prompted for your password.
[03:29] <orbish> wildchild have you tried typing text? it's been a while since i installed
[03:30] <WildChild> eyequeue: oh, I remember I downloaded it once! I ordered the printed CD and there is no alternate install method on it :P
[03:30] <shiloh> ok .. its now downloading ..
[03:30] <eyequeue> WildChild, yeah, shipit i guess is limited :)
[03:30] <WildChild> yes shipit...
[03:30] <shiloh> is this the official help channel for ubuntu?
[03:30] <eyequeue> shiloh, yes
[03:30] <WildChild> so the livecd suck for this machine :P just because of the video card
[03:30] <xxpor2> danzat, the cvar for fullscreen is r_fullscreen
[03:30] <shiloh> wow .. thank you ..
[03:30] <shiloh> i have another question ..
[03:31] <dsch04> Hi all. Can anyone tell me how to do an install with LVM?
[03:31] <shiloh> why is it that my sign in my terminal is $ .. but im the owner .. is it supposed to be # ?
[03:31] <WildChild> they now ship only the live cd. they used to ship the install cd WITH the live cd :(
[03:31] <digitallotus> anyone elses video get hosed with the latest xorg update?
[03:31] <eyequeue> shiloh, no
[03:31] <erofee> dsch04: it is an option when you install
[03:31] <jstew> # = rootshell
[03:31] <dsch04> Which installer?
[03:31] <eyequeue> shiloh, you don't run as root, that is unwise
[03:32] <eyequeue> !root > shiloh
[03:32] <rambo3> your sudoer
[03:32] <erofee> the ubuntu installer, not the live/installer disc
[03:32] <eyequeue> digitallotus, /topic
[03:32] <digitallotus> aha
[03:32] <digitallotus> sorry
[03:32] <shiloh> thank you for new information
[03:32] <shiloh> i will study this :)
[03:32] <eyequeue> shiloh, no prob
[03:33] <dsch04> erofee: Ah, where do I get that from?
[03:33] <jstew> IMHO, I'd rather run a command as root, then log out right away but that's just me. My opinion is that sudo can be just as dangerous and using it gives a false sense of safety.
[03:33] <textshell> shiloh: # has nothing to do with owner or not, it's just to show it's a root shell
[03:33] <jstew> That's just me though
[03:33] <shiloh> this is how it looks ..
[03:33] <shiloh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:33] <shiloh> no.. sorry
[03:33] <orbish> i agree jstew
[03:33] <shiloh> shiloh@WORKGROUP:~$
[03:33] <hadi> hi every body
[03:33] <dsch04> (I've tried with the DVD from the latest copy of Linux Format and also burned a DVD myself!)
[03:33] <eyequeue> shiloh, that is normal, yes
[03:33] <jstew> $ == standard user shell.
[03:33] <WildChild> Yeah! found my alternate install CD with the option "Install in text mode"
[03:33] <jstew> bash.
[03:34] <hadi> gaim close himself after signin my account
[03:34] <shiloh> ah .. even if im the root .. its sign is $ ?
[03:34] <erofee> dsch04: when you ordered 5.10 you got two discs, but i don't think 6 ships with 2 discs.  maybe there is a download for it on the ubuntu website.
[03:34] <textshell> jstew: you just need to read sudo as "warning, double check everything, be careful" ;)
[03:34] <rambo3> shiloh: sudo -i
[03:34] <danzat> xxpor2, it's already set to 1
[03:34] <jstew> nope, if youre root it will be #
[03:34] <eyequeue> hadi, it's not just running in that "bar" up top?
[03:34] <xxpor2> danzat, O.o
[03:34] <shiloh> kk..
[03:34] <riaal> Whats the name of the update after breezy?
[03:34] <WildChild> hadi: there is a bug with MSN protocol that make gaim crash since about 2 weeks
[03:34] <dennda_> i am searching for the folder that contains the standard ubuntu wallpapers. does anyone know which folder this may be?
[03:34] <dsch04> erofee: I didn't order anything - I'm installing from DVDs burned from d/l images.
[03:35] <eyequeue> riaal, dapper is the current release
[03:35] <shiloh> wow
[03:35] <orbish> riall: dapper
[03:35] <shiloh> im now #
[03:35] <riaal> thanks eyequeue
[03:35] <rambo3> shiloh: exit
[03:35] <shiloh> root@WORKGROUP:~#
[03:35] <shiloh> :)
[03:35] <hadi> even teminal some times and fire fox
[03:35] <erofee> dsch04: look for a download that is purely the installer, not the live/installer combo
[03:35] <shiloh> but .. i dont know how to login using my root account .
[03:35] <eyequeue> riaal, sure.  aka 6.06.1
[03:35] <textshell> shiloh: # or $ is just a matter of the current setting of $BASH_PROMPT or somesuch (an environment variable in bash)
[03:35] <hadi> terminal
[03:35] <jstew> dennda_: /usr/share/wallpapers maybe? Just guessing
[03:35] <KolaNorsu> Hello! Is that XORG-SERVER-CORE UBUNTU10.4 safety, because 10.3 or something was naughty????
[03:35] <dsch04> Am currently trying "Install in Text Mode" from DVD.
[03:35] <KolaNorsu> safely*
[03:35] <eyequeue> shiloh, you don't    that is a no-no    see the url
[03:35] <jstew> shiloh: there is no root login in ubuntu
[03:36] <xxpor2> danzat, do you have Xgl installed?
[03:36] <shiloh> ahhh
[03:36] <riaal> eyequeue: whats the other name of the old one? breezy
[03:36] <jstew> If you want one, sudo passwd root (but don't do it unless you know what youre doing)
[03:36] <eyequeue> riaal, 5.10
[03:36] <shiloh> just your username ? like mine? shiloh  :)
[03:36] <danzat> xxpor2, yes, i'm using actually compiz
[03:36] <shiloh> thank you :)
[03:36] <dennda_> jstew, no. that folder does not exist. thank you anyway.
[03:36] <riaal> eyequeue: thanks
[03:36] <rambo3> weard thing with last upgrade it installed compiz even if i didnt want it
[03:36] <eyequeue> jstew, it's frowned upon to advise that in #ubuntu, please don't
[03:36] <xxpor2> danzat, http://linux.net.pl/~harnir/2006-04-22/how-to-run-sdl-and-opengl-based-games-under-xgl/
[03:36] <Kennyout> [09:35]  dsch04: Am currently trying "Install in Text Mode" from DVD.  <<<I tried OEM mode, and could not see the partitions on my first HD
[03:37] <jstew> eyequeue: K, no problem.
[03:37] <erofee> dsch04: have you gone through the whole install>
[03:37] <danzat> xxpor2, thanks
[03:37] <xxpor2> your quite welcome
[03:37] <textshell> KolaNorsu: t's supposed to revert the problem. But if you're unsure and your system works at the moment just wait a bit and see if it breaks something
[03:37] <jstew> I gotta brush up on my #ubuntu ettiquette.
[03:37] <xxpor2> you're*
[03:37] <eyequeue> jstew, gracias :)
[03:37] <shiloh> :)
[03:37] <hadi> I want sources list to install realplayer
[03:38] <shiloh> /msg shiloh $ip
[03:38] <eyequeue> !realplayer
[03:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:38] <dsch04> erofee: I've got what I want in the text mode install.
[03:38] <hadi> yes
[03:38] <frfx> which package must i install to play music with firefox?
[03:38] <shiloh> how to know your local IP address?
[03:38] <hadi> it is not found in my sources.list
[03:38] <jstew> Isn't realplayer in multiverse?
[03:39] <eyequeue> !info realplayer
[03:39] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:39] <frfx> shiloh: command: ifconfig
[03:39] <eyequeue> "only"
[03:39] <Maen> someone help me install pptp please...
[03:39] <PhilsenAsk> hello i can some say me a channel where all about of all Content managment System know
[03:39] <tom_> this xorg bug has really fucked me over :(
[03:39] <tom_> have installed new package
[03:39] <frfx> which package must i install to play music with firefox?
[03:39] <tom_> but that doesn't change anything!
[03:39] <shiloh> ok .. thank you :)
[03:39] <jstew> Maen: poptop?
[03:40] <shiloh> frfx : no .. i mean in Ubuntu
[03:40] <jstew> frfx: the foxytunes extension maybe?
[03:40] <oskude> PhilsenAsk: dunno about channel, but here you can test many cms systems opensourcecms.com
[03:40] <Maen> jstew ?
[03:40] <eyequeue> why would one use firefox to play music anyway?
[03:40] <hadi> shiloh> frfx : no .. i mean in Ubuntu [03:41] <tom_> anyone got any idea about how to solve this xorg problem is the new package doesn't help?
[03:41] <tom_> s/is/if
[03:41] <shiloh> hadi : how to know your Local IP address in ubuntu
[03:41] <eegore> My xserver has crashed from an update, is there a way to roll back xorg to a previous version?
[03:41] <eyequeue> tom_, revert, as in /topic?
[03:41] <eyequeue> eegore, /topic
[03:41] <frfx> eyequeue: if you don't want to use a music player..
[03:41] <eegore> I have no gui
[03:41] <jstew> what doe you mean by "install pptp" then? Kernel module?
[03:42] <eyequeue> frfx, use the tool for the task, imo
[03:42] <eyequeue> eegore, so?
[03:42] <frfx> eyequeue: the tool?
[03:42] <eyequeue> eegore, /topic still works, does it not?
[03:42] <dennda_> ah i found the background folder. it is in: /usr/share/backgrounds
[03:42] <dennda_> thanks anyway
[03:42] <jstew> Good deal dennda_
[03:42] <eyequeue> frfx, music needs playing, i'd turn to a music player
[03:42] <eegore> that would work if I can get a web page
[03:42] <eyequeue> eegore, sigh
[03:43] <eyequeue> eegore, sudo apt-get install lynx
[03:43] <jstew> eegore: this downgrade works for me: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[03:43] <shiloh> hello?>
[03:43] <frfx> eyequeue: yes but i want to play the music on my local server..
[03:43] <tom_> eyequeue: do you mean try to revert to just 10 as opposed to 10.3 or 10.4?
[03:43] <jstew> But yeah, links, lynx, and elinks work wonders
[03:43] <eyequeue> tom_, yeah
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[03:44] <shiloh> :)
[03:44] <shiloh> sorry :)
[03:44] <eyequeue> frfx, you'ew runnung icecast or something?  many music players handle streaming
[03:44] <jstew> I'm still hooked on xmms. Does everything I need it to do. amarok is nice too.
[03:45] <hadi> how do I add fonts, I'm try copy paste but does'nt work
[03:45] <SantaCZU> Hi alll ! Anyone to help linux lama to get my Ubuntu installation working ?
[03:45] <rudiz> the update of xserver-xor-core is already on the mirrors
[03:45] <eyequeue> rudiz, or at least some mirrors
[03:45] <rudiz> just install  the new version met apt-get
[03:45] <KenSentMe> rudiz: here it's not
[03:45] <frfx> eyequeue: does icecast plays music in network with browser?
[03:45] <eyequeue> rudiz, propagation is not simultaneous
 just install  the new version met apt-get[03:46] <rudiz> ok
[03:46] <SantaCZU> I have problems just before loading kernel, I think...
[03:46] <eyequeue> frfx, with music players, yes
[03:46] <andax> anyone else experiencing the "(EE) no devices detected bug" since todays upgrade?
[03:46] <eyequeue> andax, /topic
[03:46] <joab> how does the regular first account work in ubuntu? is it the same as root or does it just have the same password?
[03:46] <DomiX> yo
[03:46] <jstew> yes andax. ^^
[03:46] <selinuxium> Hi all, how can I check the integrity of a HD?
[03:46] <rudiz> sorry i mean  apt-get upgrade
[03:46] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > joab
[03:47] <andax> sorry i didnt check the topic
[03:47] <hadi> rudiz: THX
[03:47] <jstew> You and me both andax :)
[03:47] <SantaCZU> Is here anyone to help me with getting work my Ubuntu installation ?
[03:48] <Pelo> morning folks, Is it just me or does ubuntu not take ascii codes ?
[03:48] <Ash-Fox> When I disable the kernel's boot splash, I noticed there are no colors for [ ok ]  and [failed]  messages. Any way I can enable those?
[03:48] <xxpor2> SantaCZU, is X not working?
[03:48] <Pelo> SantaCZU  what are you having problems with ?
[03:48] <jstew> Pelo: that's gotta be the strangest question I've ever heard :)
[03:48] <andax> selinuxium : try the "badblocks" command
[03:48] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, the graphical is the only with colours
[03:48] <textshell> ! rootsudo > textshell
[03:49] <Pelo> jstew how so ?
[03:49] <selinuxium> andax: in a term.... I'll have a look, cheers
[03:49] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, on every other distro, the text is colored. Besides that, the graphical also doesn't have the text colored.
[03:49] <jstew> Well what are you trying to do pelo?
[03:50] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, "every other distro" eh?  show it to me on debian
[03:50] <tom_> eyequeue: I've reverted but still seem to have the same problem
[03:50] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, "failed" is red
[03:50] <jstew> lol
[03:50] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, no need for colour otherwise
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, I know it is on slackware, mandriva, suse etc.
[03:50] <joab> eyequeue: thank you!
[03:50] <frfx> eyequeue: this is what is wanted: sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin, for streaming media
[03:50] <orbish> eyequeue, i commented out all of my other repositories except for security.ubuntu.com... did a sudo apt-get update, and nothing happened... what do i apt-get install to see if it will download 10.4?
[03:50] <SantaCZU> I am Linux beginner... I installed Ubuntu five days ago and all things went ok, but now,  GRUB loads, it writes messages "Press ESC to enter menu" etc.. ...savedefault... boot and then computer reboots and all things repeat infinitely...
[03:50] <DomiX> someone run edubuntu with ltsp ?
[03:51] <Pelo> jstew  I just noticed that I couldn'T use it, , tried a bunch of apps, didnT' work in any,  just wondering if this is a ubuntu thing, a linux thing  or if I just have to enable something,  I am fairly newbish at ubuntu
[03:51] <hadi> who ais the best of multimidea players?
[03:51] <Pelo> SantaCZU  what happens when you don'T press esc ?
[03:51] <jstew> what do you mean by acsii codes? That's what I was wondering.
[03:51] <lupine> wow, this channel is unhealthy for Konversation
[03:51] <andax> how do I change the text console resolution to somewhat larger than 80x25? (until X gets working again..)
[03:52] <lupine> it somehow managed to make it slurp ~400MB of RAM
[03:52] <eyequeue> orbish, and ran apt-get update, i presume :)  uncomment the others, you need them ... be sure you have both dapper-security and dapper-updates
[03:52] <lupine> andax: set an option on the kernel bootline... I think it's vga=
[03:52] <Pelo> jstew   I mean  alt+125 , alt+92 and stuff to get special caracters
[03:52] <jstew> SantaCZU: Maybe you erased your kernel or somehow your boto partition got messed up?
[03:52] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, ubuntu derives from debian
[03:52] <andax> lupine: thanks
[03:52] <tom_> eyequeue: when I do showpkg xserver-xorg-core it says I've still got both versions 10 and 10.4
[03:53] <orbish> eyequeue, well i was just commenting them out because i was under the impression only security.ubuntu.com had the fixed xorg update... i'll figure it out, thanks
[03:53] <lupine> there's lots of different modes - google knows, I'd imagine - if you've got a framebuffer driver in the kernel, you can get quite good quality *and* a scrollback buffer
[03:53] <hadi> shiloh: sudo ifconfig
[03:53] <eyequeue> tom_, dpkg -l to see what's isntalled, that apt-cache will show you what's available
[03:53] <xxpor2> brb
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, either way, what do I need to look into to add these colors?
[03:54] <hadi> shiloh: sudo ifconfig
[03:54] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, rewriting the app that displayes them, apparently
[03:54] <SantaCZU>  I just let 3sec interval to go to zero, GRUB starts running default command... ubuntu server but, I think, when it tries to load kernel, it crushes to reboot.
[03:54] <kyja> I thought I had installed every codec under the sun. but why wont midi files play?
[03:54] <jstew> Oh, OK pelo. there's accessories->character map. Maybe that has what you need?
[03:54] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, or changing distros to one you like
[03:55] <Carlosh> hello. I have a problem: I need to burn cd (I have 2 cd-roms - that's not the problem), but I'm on live cd. I tried to burn the cd with Nautilus, but it says, that I have not enough space do make image. I have mounted windows (fat32) partition with all permissions, but how can i use it with Nautilus ?
[03:55] <Pelo> jstew I don'T need the caracter map, I'm just wondering why it doesn't work form the keyboard like in dos/windows
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, and what app displays them?
[03:55] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, that's up to you
[03:55] <jstew> Pelo: I think it does, but I can't recall how to get it...
[03:55] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, by default?
[03:55] <Pelo> SantaCZU I think you're better off , boting from the cd and reinstalling
[03:55] <jstew> sorry I can't be of more help Pelo.
[03:56] <eyequeue> Ash-Fox, i never cared to know
[03:56] <roxlu> hi all
[03:56] <roxlu> I've installed bind9 to setup a local DNS, but its not working, thoug my configuration files seems to be oke
[03:57] <roxlu> is there a way to set debuggin on for bind9 ?
[03:57] <jstew> roxlu: Did you set up logging?
[03:57] <SantaCZU> Pelo, I you sure ? Installation was ok.. no errors, no warnings and so... :(
[03:57] <roxlu> jstew: do you know how I can do that?
[03:57] <mixandgo> any ideea why I get this: (EE) No devices detected. ? at startx
[03:57] <jstew> roxlu: Not right off hand. The bind manual will tell you though
[03:57] <SantaCZU> ..It is old machine, so, Bios is maybe deprecated.
[03:57] <xxpor2> !xorgbug > mixandgo
[03:57] <roxlu> thanx jstew
[03:57] <andax> !xorgbug > andax
[03:57] <longwave> roxlu: what do you mean "not working"? does bind start? is there anything useful in /var/log? can you run nslookup or dig against your bind?
[03:57] <kyja> :(
[03:58] <roxlu> oh sorry.. yes bind runs, but it cant' find my domains
[03:58] <Ash-Fox> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[03:58] <SantaCZU> ...and not suiting new versions of kernel or I don't know... I just like to start working and studying Linux.
[03:58] <Carlosh> could someone help me
[03:58] <Carlosh> ?
[03:58] <roxlu> longwave: this is what nslookup gives me: server can't find codra.codra.local: SERVFAIL
[03:58] <eyequeue> !anyone > Carlosh
[03:59] <jstew> maybe you just don't have your zones set up correctly then.
[03:59] <lupine> carlosh: you want an option to burn the disc 'on-the-fly'
[03:59] <roxlu> yes indeed.. gonna try debugging
[03:59] <jstew> But that's not really a topic for this place.
[03:59] <lupine> no idea if the program you're using does
[03:59] <orbish> eyequeue, i just unmasked my repositories, updated apt, and it's installing 10.4
[03:59] <Carlosh> lupine: where can i find it?
[03:59] <longwave> roxlu: yeah that sounds like your bind config files aren't quite right
[03:59] <orbish> i'll let you know how it goes
[03:59] <lupine> In the help pages for the program in question
[03:59] <eyequeue> orbish, that's the new one
[03:59] <orbish> good
[04:00] <longwave> roxlu: bind logs a summary of the zones it has loaded when it first starts, i think, so that might give you a clue
[04:00] <lupine> you could also mount /tmp to something with a bit more space
[04:00] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: do you know who's responsable for the management of the repositories? (who decides which branches there are and when to release?)
[04:00] <Carlosh> lupine: how can I do that?
[04:00] <lupine> man mount
[04:00] <kyja> I cant play midi :(
[04:00] <Ash-Fox> profoX`, I don't know any names, sorry.
[04:01] <DomiX> How can I add a simple account for ltsp ?
[04:01] <eyequeue> DomiX, man adduser
[04:01] <Carlosh> lupine: thanks, I'll try to make it work.
[04:01] <_kmh_> hi
[04:02] <DomiX> eyequeue: I already created users ...
[04:02] <tom_> eyequeue: do you know if under dependencies when you do showpkg what it means when it has (null) after a package?
[04:02] <tom_> does that mean its not there?
[04:02] <eyequeue> tom_, no, sorry
[04:02] <_kmh_> i want to install xubuntu and kubuntu on 2 partitions on the same machine
[04:02] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[04:02] <DomiX> eyequeue: in in the server and also within a chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
[04:02] <_kmh_> and i have a problem with assigning the root partition (in the installer)
[04:02] <tom_> eyequeue: ok, thanks...
[04:03] <eyequeue> DomiX, no idea
[04:03] <DomiX> there is no documentation about that :x
[04:03] <_kmh_> it seems the current install overwrites the former one (for the roor assignment)
[04:03] <Corporal_Dirge> uh oh, I installed a x server update from the update manager and now X doesn't start.
[04:03] <z3r0x> is it possible to write a script, that starts as soon as I saved a file into a certain folder?
[04:03] <Ivanowitch> _kmh_ wouldn't it be easier to just install both KDE and xfce on the same root?
[04:03] <_kmh_> so the former install (xubuntu) does not boot properly anymore
[04:03] <eyequeue> _kmh_, you do know you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop on the same install, right?
[04:04] <eyequeue> Corporal_Dirge, /topic
[04:04] <Ash-Fox> For those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:04] <_kmh_> Ivanowitch : well yes, but i wanted to have 2 independent installs/os as well
[04:04] <Corporal_Dirge> eyequeue, Ah, ok thanks
[04:04] <_kmh_> eyequeue : no not really
[04:05] <eyequeue> _kmh_, ununtu-desktop as well, all three
[04:05] <_kmh_> eyequeue : sorry i means yes, but that's not what i want
[04:05] <roxlu> jstew: it tells me it cant' find the file db.codra.local, which I created in /etc/bind ?
[04:05] <eyequeue> _kmh_, k
[04:05] <Ivanowitch> hmm ... can't really help you... though, are you installing grub on it's own partition?
[04:05] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: do you know where I can do a proposal for a new testing repo in addition to the current repo (current would be dapper right now, and should be asap [as Stable as possible] ) I was thinking about putting packages in those testing repo a few hours in advance to prevents bugs like this xserver-xorg-core happening again, and to also have a wider hardware platform that gets tested, which would be extremely helpful with kernel/driver updat
[04:05] <profoX`> es, I would say a 4 to 8 hours in advance in the testing repo, unless it's a critical security update, then the devs should test it themselves as much as possible, and then release it. do you know where I have to go to propose this?
[04:06] <_kmh_> eyequeue : i want to have 2 different independent ubuntu installations on my machine (it just happens to be kubuntu and xubuntu in this case)
[04:06] <eyequeue> _kmh_, understood
[04:06] <_kmh_> Ivanowitch : grub goes in the MBR
[04:07] <_kmh_> eyequeue : so can i do that (and how) or is the installer going to play a trick on me ?
[04:07] <Ash-Fox> profoX`, you'll probably want to bring it up with The Community Council, mailing list is at community-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <raf_> xorg update:)
[04:07] <alexdbkim> hey
[04:07] <otroean> Just installed Dapper but screen turns black when xserver starts. I have ATI x700. Have tried Vesa driver and it works fine. But ATI doesnt...
[04:07] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, hey there :)
[04:07] <alexdbkim> I can see you Daniel
[04:07] <raf_> i know how to solve XORG problem:)
[04:07] <alexdbkim> wow
[04:07] <eyequeue> _kmh_, my guess is, two runs of the alternatecd installer, specify two root partitions, reuse the swap partition
[04:07] <Killer_Demon> !xorgbug
[04:07] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[04:08] <Ash-Fox> Raf, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:08] <tom_> raf_: how?
[04:08] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, put my name at the front to make it highlight for me
[04:08] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, like i am doing for you. that indicates that it's directed to me :)
[04:08] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: thanks!
[04:08] <eyequeue> _kmh_, just a guess, but worth a try if you can afford to reinstall
[04:08] <raf_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:08] <raf_> then once that finishes
[04:08] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, like this?
[04:08] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, for a private message, do: /msg dmsantam blah
[04:08] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, yep :)
[04:08] <raf_> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:08] <alexdbkim> oh ok
[04:08] <tom_> raf_: thanks, but that doesn't help here :(
[04:09] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: I don't have to register on the ml right? if I mail, I should get the replies in my inbox? never tried mailing to a ml without registering before, but I'm pretty sure it's no problem
[04:09] <raf_> youre reverting to a good xorg there
[04:10] <alexdbkim> Ubuntu is worse than Fedora!!!
[04:10] <tom_> raf_: yes, but what to do if after reverting it is still broken?
[04:10] <Ash-Fox> alexdbkim, it's a trap!
[04:10] <raf_> it wont be
[04:10] <profoX`> alexdbkim: in what way
[04:10] <tom_> raf_: it is!
[04:10] <Kragnerac> Fedora!? :o
[04:10] <Kragnerac> Heh.
[04:10] <Ash-Fox> profoX`, I don't know if you have to register or not, but if you set the reply-to header to your e-mail addy, people may respond to you directly.
[04:10] <raf_> u have to do this with xserver off
[04:10] <raf_> init 3
[04:11] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: I'll just register to be sure.. are you regged there? is there alot of mail?
[04:11] <eyequeue> raf_, this is ubuntu, runlevel 3 is no different from runlevel 2
[04:11] <Ash-Fox> profoX`, I'm not registered, because I can't already keep up with the small stuff I do :P
[04:11] <profoX`> lol
[04:11] <profoX`> oh ok
[04:11] <treb0r> got my x working again. scary that an upgrade can break the system.
[04:11] <xxpor2> !limewire > xxpor2
[04:11] <eyequeue> raf_, nor in upstream debian
[04:11] <tom_> treb0r: how did you fix it?
[04:12] <profoX`> treb0r: yea... thats why we have to make sure that it does not happen again
[04:12] <raf_> i reverted to an older xorg core
[04:12] <treb0r> tom_: I looked at the topic here, and followed the link to roll back thew upgrade with apt-get
[04:13] <tom_> hmz, wish I'd done that earlier, think I must've uninstalled or broken something trying to fix it on my own before I came here and saw the topic, and now nothing seems to fix the problem
[04:13] <treb0r> We have clients running ubuntu, and now we are thinking off running our own upgrade server so we can properly test everything before it goes out...
[04:14] <roxlu> jstew: oke nice, at least on the local machine I can ping the new domains... though not using another computer althoug I've added the DNS ip to the list...
[04:14] <roxlu> jstew: do you know what that can be?
[04:14] <raf_> lol
[04:14] <tom_> what should one do if you've totally messed xorg up and the fix outlined in the topic don't work?
[04:15] <xxpor2> hmmm... i have installed sun-java5-jre but limewire still wont run
[04:15] <eyequeue> this really wasn't such a big deal, it's just the loss of a gui
[04:15] <raf_> i wouldnt run automatix either...itll automatically install that new xorg
[04:15] <Lattyware> Hey all, I run Ubuntu with Xfce, and I have lost all of my toolbars upon logging in.
[04:15] <raf_> without asking!!
[04:15] <treb0r> tom_: I'm no expert, but possibly uninstall X, then reinstall?
[04:15] <eyequeue> tom_, perhaps rm the configs and start over with dpkg-recofigure?
[04:15] <Ash-Fox> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <wasabi_> Does Ubuntu have fsck utils in a initramfs?
[04:15] <wheelswitch> any one good with grip here? trying to work out how to get it to create a log file when ripping flac...
[04:15] <wasabi_> Or any other non-root-mounted recovery tool?
[04:16] <treb0r> anybody know of a good live cd for revoering files from a crashed windoze box?
[04:16] <treb0r> recovering
[04:16] <Lattyware> treb0r: try the ultimate boot CD
[04:16] <wasabi_> tre, Ubuntu's standard LiveCD can probably mount the windows partition
[04:16] <tom_> eyequeue: hmz, ok, but that requires me to know loads of info about my machine that was never required when I first installed ubuntu and I don't know
[04:16] <wasabi_> and get whatever you want off of it.
[04:16] <Lattyware> it has somthing for pretty much anything.
[04:17] <javiolo> how can I log channel on x-chat ?
[04:17] <billybennett> hey guys I'm having trouble with flash freezing ever since i switched the firefox dsp thing to AOSS anyone know any work arounds?
[04:17] <treb0r> Lattyware: thanks dude
[04:17] <Lattyware> NP
[04:17] <eyequeue> javiolo, settings > preferences
[04:18] <Lattyware> I run Ubuntu with Xfce, and I have lost all of my toolbars upon logging in, could anyone help?
[04:18] <jasondotgnu> hello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?
[04:18] <javiolo> eyequeue alredy checked the preferences
[04:18] <javiolo> nothing about logging channels
[04:18] <eyequeue> javiolo, what version?
[04:18] <Lattyware> Prefs -> Chatting -> Logging
[04:18] <Lattyware> It's there.
[04:18] <eyequeue> javiolo, settings > preferences > chatting > logging
[04:19] <javiolo> 0.15.2
[04:19] <Ash-Fox> Lattyware, might want to ask #xubuntu
[04:19] <eyequeue> javiolo, ancient, dapper has 2.6.1, upgrade
[04:19] <Zambacian> hello
[04:19] <z3r0x> does somebody know if there is a  folder watcher daemon?
[04:19] <javiolo> wow, danke
[04:20] <Lattyware> Ash-Fox: OK, Thanks
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone present me with an apt command for forcing the originall ubuntu version of xserver I installed the bad update, and now I'm stuck in b+w bash on my main machine
[04:20] <boubou> bonjour*
[04:20] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anybody know if there is a Linux equivalent to Windows Media Center?
[04:20] <eyequeue> pianoboy3333, /topic
[04:20] <eyequeue> Kragnerac, no clue, what does it do?
[04:20] <roxlu> longwave: can you help me a bit?
[04:21] <tuxtux> ciao
[04:21] <Zambacian> after an earlier update my X is not working? Anybody with the same problem :(
[04:21] <Kragnerac> eyequeue: What does MCE do?
[04:21] <Ash-Fox> pianoboy3333, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number -- 10.3 messed up). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:21] <eyequeue> Zambacian, /topic
[04:21] <Lattyware> Zambacian: Loads of people
[04:21] <Lattyware> Read the topic
[04:21] <xxpor2> does anyone know why after i install java from apt-get, nothing can find it
[04:21] <eyequeue> Kragnerac, that ms app you mentioned
[04:21] <pianoboy3333> Ash-Fox: ok, thanks
[04:22] <eyequeue> Kragnerac, and what is mce?
[04:22] <Kragnerac> eyequeue: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx
[04:22] <Lattyware> ... #xubuntu is about as active as a dead stone snail...
[04:22] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to be sure.
[04:22] <eyequeue> Kragnerac, ms site is blocked upstream from me, what is it you want to accomplish?
[04:23] <nateman1352> has anyone here tried using the dapper openoffice-dev packages bf?
[04:23] <roxlu> longwave: on the ubuntu machine I can ping domains like mysub.codra.local, but not from windows xp ?
[04:23] <Gobfrey> can anyone help me set up my new printer?
[04:23] <eyequeue> nateman1352, packages have a boyfriend? ;)
[04:24] <yeager> hehe, root
[04:24] <nateman1352> eyequeue: lol... wait... I'm a boy
[04:25] <xxpor2> does anyone know why after i install java from apt-get, nothing can find it
[04:26] <Gobfrey> My USB printer isn't beeing seen.  How can I make Ubuntu see it?
[04:26] <jasondotgnu> hello, I found udev only create /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer for my sound card, no /dev/dsp[0-4]  and /dev/mixer[0-4]  and /dev/midi[0-4]  created, how can I fix it?
[04:27] <eyequeue> man MAKEDEV i guess
[04:27] <eyequeue> jasondotgnu, uppercase required
[04:27] <alexdbkim> How can I add command menu on popup dialog which appears when I click right mouse button?
[04:27] <ost2life> okay, does anyone want to help me avoid having my parents kill me?
[04:28] <jasondotgnu> eyequeue, I'll try it. Thanks, :)
[04:28] <alexdbkim> Please help me :)
[04:28] <chrnuh> hi... how hard it would be for a ubuntu newbie to connect a gps device to my laptop running ubuntu? gps works on bluetooth... and i do i know wich bluetooth adapter i have in my laptop ?
[04:28] <eyequeue> sh: murder: command not found
[04:28] <_maney> just recently, perhaps following an update (that I didn't much notice), apt* is giving errors about some repositories that don't have Packages.bz2.  Checking manually, they do have Packages.gz, and I suspect that something in apt changed because at least two unreleated repos that have been working fine became broken at the same time.
[04:28] <Snake> http://ubuntu.justgotowned.com
[04:28] <Snake> X^
[04:28] <alexdbkim> Can anyone please tell my how to add command menu on popup dialog?
[04:29] <UKMatt> so I just upgraded the core update and just now found out it kills your graphics, does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:29] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, you're asking on #ubuntu!
[04:29] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, go to #csharp !
[04:29] <Snake> UKMatt: look in the topic
[04:29] <eyequeue> Snake, some flash crap?
[04:29] <ost2life> okay, how do I install real player on ubuntu so that my parents can watch the BBC news websites videos?
[04:29] <UKMatt> snake. the topic?
[04:29] <Snake> UKMatt: type /topic
[04:29] <alexdbkim> I meant on Ubuntu :P
[04:29] <andax> ost2life, www.getautomatix.com
[04:29] <eyequeue> UKMatt, .topic, in your irc client
[04:29] <Snake> UKMatt: there are detailed instructions on how to solve it
[04:29] <eyequeue> UKMatt, /topic, in your irc client
[04:30] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, I meant on Ubuntu
[04:30] <alexdbkim> :)
[04:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, really?!
[04:30] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, because I want to add Terminal icon on the popup dialog
[04:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, which popup dialog?
[04:30] <roxlu> when I created a link with "ln -s source target" how can I remove only the "target" link?
[04:30] <Inferus> lol Snake
[04:30] <dmsantam> roxlu, rm target
[04:30] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, you can at least add it to the gnome-panel bar at the top
[04:30] <roxlu> oke
[04:31] <mats> or man ln ;)
[04:31] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, you know when you click right mouse button on Desktop screen
[04:31] <roxlu> rm target was faster :-)
[04:31] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, right click on the bar
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, ahh
[04:31] <alexdbkim> eyequeue, I knew that but thanks :)
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, good question :)
[04:31] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, all i know how, heh
[04:31] <alexdbkim> :)
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, it's gonna be a gnome config
[04:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, what is that?
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, i don't know the name
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but when you ask question, you need to be more descriptive.
[04:32] <UKMatt> thats brutal for Ubuntu, i feel bad for the guys b/c i bet thats driving them crazy
[04:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, Fedora has the menu on the popup dialog which is really convinient :P
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, e.g.  when i right click the gnome desktop, i get a menu. i want to add something to that menu. how can i do that?
[04:32] <chrnuh> 
[04:33] <Snake> is there an approx. time till this bug is fixed? I don't mind not rebooting uptil an update is released, but I would like to know how long
[04:33] <Lattyware> 10.4 is the good Xorg update, yeah?
[04:33] <andax> Snake, it's already fixed
[04:33] <shawnr_> dmsantam, what are you trying to add
[04:33] <Snake> andax: They don't plan to release it into the stream...?
[04:33] <Lattyware> You need to hit 'Check' for it to update to the right one.
[04:33] <alexdbkim> shawnr_, Terminal
[04:34] <Snake> hmm
[04:34] <dmsantam> shawnr_, a custom command. like a terminal
[04:34] <andax> Snake, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ...
[04:34] <dmsantam> shawnr_, tell alexdbkim he wants to know :)
[04:34] <eyequeue> Snake, it depends how long it takes to propagate to your mirror, say 24h to be safe
[04:34] <Snake> andax: I am
[04:34] <graveson> what version of divx is an mp4 file
[04:34] <Snake> Ah wunderbar :)
[04:35] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, could you please tell me how to do that?
[04:35] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, :)
[04:35] <eyequeue> the 10.4 upgrade JUST propagated to us.archive.ubuntu.com btw all! :)
[04:35] <Lattyware> graveson: anything from 1 to 4 I think.
[04:35] <shawnr_> alexdbkim, nautilus takes control of your desktop. including the right click. you can stop that
[04:35] <andax> Snake, then modify /etc/apt/sources.list, use "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:35] <Snake> andax: thats what I normally use
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <LoRez> Warning: `chrnuh' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <eyequeue> Snake, change the the us mirror and do it now if you like
[04:35] <chrnuh> 
[04:35] <shawnr_> wow
[04:35] <eyequeue> Snake, change to the us mirror and do it now if you like
[04:36] <Snake> eyequeue: I am :)
[04:36] <shawnr_> chrnuh, try not to do that again
[04:36] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, could you explain me about it?
[04:36] <xevil> chrnuh: cat standing on the enter key?
[04:36] <eyequeue> Snake, wasn't sure if you could see it through the spammer
[04:36] <Lattyware> weo: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[04:36] <Lattyware>   Could not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182), connection timed out
[04:36] <kashual> lo peeps
[04:36] <tom_> eyequeue: so, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg which seems to have gotten rid of the undefined symbol error, but I still get "no screens found" trying both 10 and 10.4
[04:36] <Lattyware> :/
[04:36] <shawnr_> alexdbkim, you can use gconf-editor to edit nautilus properties.
[04:37] <eyequeue> tom_, that surprises me, i feel your pain but don't know what to suggest
[04:37] <Intangir> hey guys, whats the easiest way to batch edit an entire directory with sed?
[04:37] <tom_> eyequeue: thanks for you help anyway :/
[04:37] <tom_> :)
[04:37] <mats> good luck, eyequeue
[04:37] <mats> ;)
[04:37] <andax> tom, maybe (just like me) you have messed up  your X config trying to figure out what's wrong so think about if you have modified something..
[04:38] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, thanks, I run gconf-editor but there are too many thigns in it so could you give me a hint which option I have to look at
[04:38] <frogzoo> tom_: did you run depmod?
[04:39] <tom_> andax: yes, that's why we ran the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg script (which it tells you to do in the x config file is you messed with it and want to start again)
[04:39] <dijungal> question: what gui firewall can i install on ubuntu
[04:39] <dijungal> ?
[04:39] <monteiro> dijungal : firestarter
[04:39] <maxx03> hey can somebody help me out pls? synaptic seems to be broken... i can install packages using apt-get, but synaptic does nothing...
[04:39] <tom_> frogzoo: depmod didn't seem to do anything
[04:39] <andax> tom: that command basically just re-creates your xorg.conf file, maybe something else you have modified?
[04:39] <dijungal> it's not in the synaptic list
[04:39] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: have you tried nautilus-open-terminal?
[04:40] <jbroome> !info firestarter
[04:40] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[04:40] <frogzoo> tom_: well now try gdm start again, maybe
[04:40] <KenSentMe> Can someone explain to me what this comment on a upgrade request means? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/penguintv/+bug/52567
[04:40] <frogzoo> maxx03: did you set a proxy in synaptic?
[04:40] <dmsantam> OoberMick, what is that?
[04:40] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: assuming you're the right person.... right-click open terminal?
[04:40] <jbroome> are you running synaptic and apt at the same time?
[04:40] <ericz> so what happened with x.org, heh.. i had to sudo apt-get upgrade in a console because i kept getting an X server error with twinview?
[04:40] <maxx03> frogzoo, nope... i've always just used the default settings
[04:40] <kashual> ^
[04:40] <maxx03> frogzoo, just recently it stopped working
[04:41] <OoberMick> dmsantam: right-click open terminal
[04:41] <andax> ericz, /topic
[04:41] <dmsantam> OoberMick, if you do that on the desktop, there is no "open terminal". the question is how to add "open terminal" to that menu
[04:41] <tom_> is there a re-install everything that X needs command?!?
[04:41] <frogzoo> maxx03: low disk on /tmp ?
[04:41] <OoberMick> dmsantam: with nautilus-open-terminal?
[04:41] <ardchoille> dmsantam: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:41] <mrDaniel> because under linux no powermizer is available (a tool for setting power-consumption) i want to try coolbits to set the GPU speed of my GeForce Go 7600
[04:42] <dmsantam> ahh! thx
[04:42] <OoberMick> dmsantam: yeah that
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, Thanks, but I don't have nautilus-open-terminal. How can I make it?
[04:42] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:42] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, good
[04:42] <mrDaniel> but when write the line 'Coolbits "1" ', my xserver cannot start, because he don't understand the line 'coolbits'
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, thanks!! :)
[04:42] <maxx03> frogzoo, how can i tell?
[04:42] <mrDaniel> do anyone knoe where the problem could be?
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMick, thanks!! :)
[04:43] <frogzoo> maxx03: df -h    - look for 99%/100%
[04:43] <dijungal> sweeet!!! i got firestarter... had to add the community repository
[04:43] <dijungal> thanks guys
[04:43] <mrDaniel> also: when I use the line 'Option "Coolbits" "1" ', my xserver want's to start, but no new options are available
[04:43] <mrDaniel> ??
[04:43] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, do I have to restart X?
[04:43] <frogzoo> mrDaniel: coolbits won't work for X - it's a windows registry setting
[04:43] <frogzoo> afaik
[04:44] <maxx03> frogzoo, i see a 89%, but that's /dev/sda1, my windows partition... everything else is low
[04:44] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: I'm not sure... probably
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, no
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, killall nautilus
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, then nautilus will restart, and it should appear
[04:44] <janbanan> I'm about to install dapper but it's just the live-cd that starts to run. I wan't to install it
[04:45] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: listen to dmsantam his words are wise
[04:45] <ost2life> okay, i just used automatix but it still didn't work
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> the live cd has an  'install' icon on the desktop
[04:45] <ost2life> the realplayer install script crashed out
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[04:45] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:45] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, wow it works :)
[04:45] <maxx03> frogzoo, got some new information.... the thing i was having problems with is not synaptic... it seems to some sort of frontend to synaptic... it appears in the menu bar saying "there are X updates available".... when i try to run synaptic from system | administration is refuses to even start....
[04:45] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, you are really good at Linux man
[04:46] <frogzoo> maxx03: run synaptic from the command line - it might give a hint
[04:46] <dijungal> question: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server
[04:46] <dmsantam> hehe
[04:46] <alexdbkim> :)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  theres been a bug wigh some libraries/updates that broke synaptic
[04:46] <maxx03> frogzoo, "error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4"
[04:47] <janbanan> Dr_Willis: that suck because i get an error with no screen found before i reach the desktop. it has to do with the ATI drivers.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  thats it. :P
[04:47] <maxx03> frogzoo, sounds like it... how do it fix it
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> janbanan,  use the 'alternative' install cd.
[04:47] <frogzoo> !xorgbug
[04:47] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  remove and reinstall the libvte-common package
[04:47] <frogzoo> !xorgbugfix > janbanan
[04:47] <Pukawka-HiNduS> hello
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte-common
[04:47] <ubotu> libvte-common: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[04:47] <janbanan> Dr_Willis: sweet
[04:48] <maxx03> ok Dr_Willis i'll give that a shot
[04:48] <dijungal> question: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server
[04:48] <Pukawka-HiNduS> can someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??
[04:48] <maxx03> ouch, it sure is removing a lot of dependencies
[04:48] <maxx03> i hope this is going to be ok
[04:49] <Pukawka-HiNduS> can someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??
[04:49] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: libvte4 on dapper has that file
[04:49] <dmsantam> Pukawka-HiNduS, asking twice isn't going to help :)
[04:49] <Pukawka-HiNduS> :)
[04:49] <SKossu> Question: I just tried installing ubuntu 6.06 and chose the first option to start ubuntu and install, and it booted the kernel and went trough all the phases of starting up. Though then it stopped and bitched something about connect debounce port 6 and got stuck on a black screen, am I fucking something up?
[04:49] <frogzoo> maxx03: reinstall libvte4
[04:49] <hadi> hi every body my xorg does not work after update..!
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo,  huh? the fix has been to remove/reinsall the package for most people that have had the issue.
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi, read the topic
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi, you need to downgrade
[04:50] <AHillsbe> I have an x server problem, i was wondering if someone could help me?
[04:50] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: oh, so it's known, cool
[04:50] <sparkleytone> SKossu: you using a usb keyboard?
[04:50] <hadi> THX
[04:50] <SKossu> yes sir
[04:50] <maxx03> frogzoo, yeah i did... but now i've lost heaps of things including synaptic itself
[04:50] <sparkleytone> SKossu: does it have its own hub for stuff to plug into?
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> hadi, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number -- 10.3 messed up). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:50] <frogzoo> maxx03: well maybe reinstall it then
[04:51] <SKossu> yes, its the G15 keyboard
[04:51] <alexdbkim> bye
[04:51] <maxx03> frogzoo, i installed libvte-common after removing it... but the other things have not come back
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: unplug anything you have plugged into it and try again
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: also...preface your responses with my name please...otherwise you'll get lost in the shuffle
[04:51] <frogzoo> maxx03: dpkg -l libvte4
[04:51] <msoul> hadi: hadi wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[04:51] <SKossu> sparkleytone: Nothing is plugged into the keyboard
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade *corrected spelling*
[04:51] <hadi> can I fix this problem now or not?
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: is it plugged into a hub or anything?
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, listen to Ash-Fox
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:52] <SKossu> sparkleytone: I got an extra hub that has webcam and bluetooth device connected
[04:52] <msoul> hadi: yes if you just do what I just told you to do
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, then restart gdm, and away you go
[04:52] <sparkleytone> SKossu: funnily enough i had that very issue yesterday using an apple keyboard after i plugged an IR receiver into one of the USB ports on it
[04:52] <maxx03> frogzoo, it says Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/unpacked/filaed-config/half-installed
[04:52] <maxx03> frogzoo, did i just ruin my install?
[04:52] <sparkleytone> SKossu: for now, disconnect all usb devices other than the keyboard.
[04:52] <hadi> msoul: I will, thx
[04:52] <msoul> sure
[04:53] <AHillsbe> how can you enable the x server?
[04:53] <frogzoo> maxx03: dunno, try 'sudo apt-get install libvte4'
[04:53] <sparkleytone> AHillsbe: define 'enable'
[04:53] <frogzoo> AHillsbe: x break for you?
[04:53] <SKossu> sparkleytone: Alright, I'll give it a shot.
[04:53] <sparkleytone> SKossu: you probably don't have to reinstall
[04:53] <pussfeller> hey when I fire up gnome baker, it doesn't show any of my devices
[04:53] <Ademan> i have one update available its xserver-xorg-core   is that the infamous broken X?
[04:53] <pussfeller> no cd-rom, no cdrw
[04:53] <AHillsbe> it wont let me run gdm it says x server is disabled - no screen error
[04:54] <SKossu> sparkleytone: It isn't installed yet, It wouldn't go into the "desktop" to install.
[04:54] <frogzoo> Ademan: most likely
[04:54] <frogzoo> !xorgbugfix > AHillsbe
[04:54] <Ademan> i can't believe they didnt take it out of the repositories or something
[04:54] <maxx03> frogzoo, ok it installed
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: well now what?
[04:55] <maxx03> frogzoo, but now i'm still missing heaps of other packages
[04:55] <AHillsbe> i have had it running, it crashed after i tried to hibernate
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: well put them back in I guess
[04:55] <Ademan> does AIGLX work with NVIDIA drivers? (just unaccelerated or something?)
[04:55] <maxx03> frogzoo: i have the list of packages it removed... do u think it would work if i just reinstalled each of those?
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: that's should work
[04:56] <frank_b> has anyone had their computer shut down because of the problem with xorg 10.3?
[04:56] <maxx03> frogzoo, i've got unmet dependencies
[04:57] <frank_b> shut down on its own, that is
[04:57] <maxx03> frogzoo, gnome-terminal depends on gnome-terminal-data.... and it's complaining of the version of that i have installed or something
[04:57] <klm-> Is a firewall useful when using Ubuntu?
[04:57] <Ademan> mines 10.4 is that updated and safe?
[04:57] <Ademan> xserver-xorg-core
[04:58] <frank_b> klm-, of course. you need it to open some incoming ports when you want to
[04:58] <klm-> but is it needed to protect my own files from intruders?
[04:58] <frank_b> klm-, a firewall control program, that is. ubuntu already has a firewall by edfault
[04:58] <KenSentMe> Ademan: 10.4 is the fixed version
[04:58] <Ademan> yay
[04:58] <Ademan> thanks
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> frank_b, scame, You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:59] <frank_b> where is a 10.4 version of xorg availabel?
[04:59] <dmsantam> frank_b, it is available now on some mirrors
[04:59] <RalleAb> hello guys! How do I make it so I can copy and remove files to my fat32 partition?
[04:59] <KenSentMe> frank_b: the mirrors are updating, so just wait until your mirror has it too
[04:59] <frank_b> dmsantam, Ash-Fox , thanks
[05:00] <thoreauputic> frank_b: or downgrade as in the /topic
[05:00] <frank_b> KenSentMe, thoreauputic , thanks
[05:00] <maxx03> frogzoo, yeah it looks pretty screwed man... damn i was hoping this install of linux would last me until i upgraded to a 64bit merom cpu
[05:01] <frank_b> has anyone has the computer shut down on it's own because of the bug with xorg 10.3?
[05:01] <frank_b> *has anyone had
[05:01] <Ash-Fox> No.
[05:01] <KenSentMe> I now get an error when i do apt-get update. connection refused to archive.ubuntu.com. I hope that's because the mirror is being updated
[05:01] <AHillsbe> frank_: i have had aproblem with xserver
[05:01] <thoreauputic> frank_b: should be OK as long as you don't restart
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:02] <frank_b> thoreauputic, ok
[05:02] <HeathenDan> is 10.4 guaranteed to work?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> heh
[05:02] <AHillsbe> will that fix the no screen error?
[05:02] <frfx> fluxbox or icewm?
[05:03] <shadeofgrey> hey everybofy
[05:03] <shadeofgrey> what are the best tools for blogging in ubuntu?
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, yes.
[05:03] <AHillsbe> ok
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> HeathenDan,  Guarentted or your $$ back!
[05:03] <jbroome> vi
[05:03] <frank_b> well, I woke up today with my computer shut down. and when I restarted it it gave me an error with xorg (I solved it already). could xorg be the reason why it shut down on its own?
[05:03] <Thunderpants> shadeofgrey, gnome-blog?
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> shadeofgrey, vi in my opinion
[05:03] <HeathenDan> lol
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> frank_b, no.
[05:03] <jadams> how can I get a key's keycode?
[05:04] <jm^> Use xev.
[05:04] <jadams> specifically, I'm trying to enable my multimedia keys in gnome
[05:04] <jadams> thanks
[05:04] <frfx> what are the pro and cons of fluxbox and icewm?
[05:04] <frank_b> Ash-Fox, ok, thanks
[05:04] <jm^> You're welcome.
[05:04] <DarkAudit> 10.3 on my list... updating list now...
[05:04] <shadeofgrey> oh cerap
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> frfx,  use them,, if ya like them... good.. if not try somthing else. :P they both use less memory.resorureces then other bigger desktops
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> vi is that breaindead text editor i could never undfwerstand
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, use vim.
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> 'woiuld somebody give me a heads up on how to use  it?
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> whats the diff between vi and vim
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, there's a web blog called mvblog that's fairly good (www.mvblog.org)
[05:05] <FunnyLookinHat> shadeofgrey, it's got a bit of a llearning curve.  you could probably google "vim tutorial"
[05:05] <jadams> jm^: I didn't see the codes being output for the keypresses with xev...
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> when I say vi, I mean vim.
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, vim = Vi IMproved
[05:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: the difference is that no one actually uses real vi anymore
[05:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: so the difference is moot
[05:06] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: or type  vimtutor  in a terminal
[05:06] <treb0r> or use emacs ;-)
[05:06] <jm^> jadams, xev needs to be in focus.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> vimtutor walks you through it
[05:06] <E[m] ess> hi, my box powered down in a thunderstorm when we had a blackout, and when i boot normally it stops after initialising X and justshows the ubuntu splash. when i boot into recovry mode and try to startx, i get the error that no devices were found/initialised. i looked at the X config and its fine, any ideas?
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> Isn't emacs it's own OS? :P
[05:06] <jadams> jm^: no, no
[05:06] <mititelu> hello, got a problem... i have AMD64 dapper drake, updated Xserver (through update sistem), and now after a restart Xserv won't start (says no screens or something)
[05:06] <jadams> it was sending codes for "l" and whatnot
[05:06] <thoreauputic> E[m] ess:  /topic
[05:06] <eyequeue> mititelu, /topic
[05:06] <gdb> Yeah, emacs would actually make a really great alternative OS... it just needs a decent text editor.
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> mititelu, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:07] <treb0r> Ash-Fox: yep, it outshines all of other editors in the same way that thw morning sun outshines the stars, or something
[05:07] <jadams> but when I hit mute, for instance, 0xa0 never showed up on the terminal
[05:07] <jadams> (though I know that's the code)
[05:07] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> Hi I got a big problem with ubuntu. I can#t get the desktop running anymore. At start up it says no screen found on my laptop. any help to get the desktop back without reinstall?
[05:07] <eyequeue> Nanaki_Yamabushi, /topic
[05:07] <treb0r> Nanaki_Yamabushi: Join the club!!
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Nanaki_Yamabushi,  did it used to work? if so check the topic. theres a update bug.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> *sigh* this is a bad bug
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> treb0r, I've seen webbrowsers, IRC clients, instant messaging clients on emacs :P
[05:08] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> It did work 5 minutes ago
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> Nanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:08] <treb0r> Ash-Fox: yep, but the really cool feature is dired, the directory editor. A gui for your terminal..
[05:08] <eyequeue> Nanaki_Yamabushi, /topic, it was your reboot
[05:08] <frank_b> klm-, you still there?
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need a text editorwith a full gui that allows me to use a full sized squyare cursor
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> are there any?
[05:09] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> uhm my laptop just shutted down
[05:09] <klm-> frank_b: yes
[05:09] <jbroome> people have the oddest requests in here
[05:09] <shadeofgrey> i have glaucoma and am going blind.. i cant deal with the | cursor anymore
[05:09] <shadeofgrey> its very hard for me to see
[05:09] <treb0r> Nanaki_Yamabushi: go read /topic
[05:09] <blind> <_<
[05:09] <dmsantam> shadeofgrey, gvim in command mode
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> Nanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:09] <OoberMick> shadeofgrey: emacs does to
[05:09] <simira> how to I sftp to somewhere using a key for login?
[05:10] <frank_b> klm-, sorry, I didn't see your second message
[05:10] <eyequeue> simira, sftp host, it should prompt
[05:10] <thoreauputic> simira: you set up ssh keys
[05:10] <simira> eyequeue: for a key?
[05:10] <dmsantam> simira, you need to create a key
[05:10] <dmsantam> simira, then scp the public key up to the server
[05:10] <simira> thoreauputic: I do have a key, and a server. But the usual "Connect to network place" doesn't have a key option
[05:11] <eyequeue> simira, no, sorry.  you ssh-keygen first, then edit ~/.ssh/config for that host
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, oh
[05:11] <simira> no, no, no
[05:11] <frank_b> klm-, I don't know much about firewalls, but from the little I know, yes, a firewall it's highly recomended to protect your ports
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, i c :)
[05:11] <thoreauputic> simira: it shouldn't need one if your ssh is configured right
[05:11] <dakad> lo?
[05:11] <simira> I need an sftp client that has an option for giving up a key
[05:11] <hadi_> hi agine
[05:11] <frank_b> klm-, to not let someone use your ports unless you authorize them to
[05:11] <eyequeue> simira, man sftp
[05:12] <simira> thoreauputic: should it work if I put my key in .id_dsa?
[05:12] <hadi_> I fix problem successfully
[05:12] <thoreauputic> simira: can you ssh using keys to that host?
[05:12] <simira> thoreauputic: yes
[05:12] <thoreauputic> simira: if not, first you need to set up your keypairs
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Ok
[05:12] <dakad> can someone give me a hand getting my wireless card to connect to my router?
[05:12] <hadi_> do I update xorg to 10.3 or not
[05:13] <simira> thoreauputic: the keypars is in place, I only need where to give up the key to access
[05:13] <hadi_> do I update xorg to 10.3 or not
[05:13] <jturek> update to 10.4
[05:13] <eyequeue> hadi, no
[05:13] <hadi_> sure?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> simira: sorry I don't follow you - are you saying you can't sftp using paswords to that host?
[05:13] <eyequeue> hadi_, 10.3 was bad, use 10.4
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> hadi_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:13] <thoreauputic> *passwords
[05:13] <hadi_> OK
[05:14] <steve_> Every time I do an update I get the follwing error:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:14] <frank_b> hadi_, 10.3 no. it has a bug. update to 10.4 instead
[05:14] <dakad> my wireless card won't connect to my router, even tho the SSID and wep-key have been entered correctly. I know the card works 'cos i connected briefly to my neighbours router. any advice?
[05:15] <steve_> It's preventing me from installing any packages.
[05:15] <simira> thoreauputic: correct
[05:15] <hadi_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:15] <hadi_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:15] <hadi_> why
[05:15] <thoreauputic> steve: try   sudo dpkg --configure -a  , the try again
[05:15] <eyequeue> hadi_, close the app that has the lock
[05:15] <steve_> ok
[05:15] <lassegs> hadi_: is another process using it?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> hadi_: close any install apps you have open
[05:16] <hadi_> oh yes it's updater
[05:16] <thoreauputic> hadi_: like synaptic, apt etc
[05:16] <thoreauputic> right
[05:16] <IdleOne> what is the command to see what user are logged on?
[05:16] <AHillsbe>   apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was notfound
[05:16] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: who or  w
[05:16] <AHillsbe> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was not found
[05:16] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, propagation takes time, wait
[05:16] <tiede> #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <lassegs> its actually easier to read the error output than logging in to ubuntu@freenode to get the answer :P
[05:16] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: then it isn't on your mirror yet
[05:17] <AHillsbe> like hours or minutes
[05:17] <fuci_> What's a good player to play .mkv files?
[05:17] <steve_> Gave a bunch of dependcy errors and I still get the same error.
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, ask the people who run your mirror.
[05:17] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, there is a command that will show all logged on users do you know it?
[05:17] <elvstone> hum. i'm trying to add a user to a group with "sudo usermod -G video pow", but the user is not added to the group :/
[05:17] <tiede> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:17] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, 24h if you want to be safe
[05:17] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: depends where you are
[05:17] <AHillsbe> how do i do that?
[05:17] <Emess> didnt liek the version number for the update...
[05:17] <elvstone> e.g. grep pow /etc/group after that command gives nothing :/
[05:17] <dakad> tied: try /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:17] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: I told you :  who  or w
[05:17] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> update worked
[05:17] <AHillsbe> mirrir?
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> No, mirror.
[05:17] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser elvstone video
[05:17] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser pow video
[05:18] <AHillsbe> my mirror is different?
[05:18] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, that only shows my user. but I know there are others I want to know which and kill them
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: but the login already exists, i'd like to modify it.
[05:18] <SanketMedhi> hello
[05:18] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: it depends on you rcountry code usually
[05:18] <SanketMedhi> has anyone checked out the new Gaim ?
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: i used useradd -m -s /bin/bash pow to add it btw..
[05:18] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser pow video   adds the existing pow to the group
[05:18] <AHillsbe> ok
[05:18] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> no where can I look for the new gaim
[05:18] <eyequeue> elvstone, useradd is, um, old?
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: oh. okay. why doesn't usermod -G work? it usually does..
[05:18] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: erm, they are logged on how? ssh?
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: it's standard isn't it?
[05:19] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, possibly
[05:19] <eyequeue> elvstone, adduser/deluser has been standard in debian for years now
[05:19] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: well, w usually shows ssh logons IIRC
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: alright, sorry, coming from BSD :)
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: thanks!
[05:19] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, ok thanks
[05:19] <method|> my audio is out of sync on youtube, anyone else have this prob?
[05:19] <AHillsbe> that update will fix the "fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:19] <eyequeue> elvstone, np, many similarities, and a few gotchas, heh
[05:20] <AHillsbe> ?
[05:20] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, /topic, yes
[05:20] <thoreauputic> method|: yes, flv often is a bit out of sync - are you using flash ?
[05:20] <method|> yes
[05:20] <elvstone> eyequeue: hm. it's still not added, sudo adduser pow video && grep pow /etc/group yields nothing :/
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: the linux flash player sucks basically - nothing much can be done as it is closed source
[05:21] <eyequeue> elvstone, okay, first off, your user has sudo permissions, right?
[05:21] <tsubasaleguedin> hello !
[05:21] <AHillsbe> how do i reboot from the command prompt
[05:21] <elvstone> eyequeue: yep. i'm using my regular login 'elvstone'.
[05:21] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, sudo reboot
[05:21] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> use sudo reboot
[05:21] <method|> thoreauputic: well that's just awesome
[05:21] <tsubasaleguedin> Can I update my ubuntu without breaking X tonight ?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: if you can download the video mplayer plays flv
[05:21] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:21] <elvstone> eyequeue: and it has sudo permission (i use it all the time).
[05:21] <dakad> anyone want to give me a hand with my wireless card?
[05:21] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo vigr should work, but the other should have as well
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: complain to macromedia/adobe
[05:21] <opl> Hi all, I am a teacher and I look for a free ftp Programm which is available for Linux and Windows. Do you know a good program?
[05:21] <method|> mplayer can play flash?
[05:21] <method|> didnt know that
[05:21] <eyequeue> vigr (8)             - edit the password, group, shadow-password or shadow-group file.
[05:22] <thoreauputic> method|: no, it can play flv
[05:22] <mopflite> opl: do you want a program that will run on both platforms?
[05:22] <method|> ic
[05:22] <elvstone> eyequeue: alright. i'll try with vigr.
[05:22] <Ash-Fox> opl, there is one that comes with linux and windows called 'ftp'
[05:22] <eyequeue> elvstone, i don't normally recommend vi-ish things, but you're from bsd :)
[05:22] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> I also have a problem with Flash. most of the time I have no sound in it at all.
[05:22] <thoreauputic> method|: ffplay can also play flv with the right codecs
[05:22] <ketsugi> eyequeue: I must say, vi's learning curve is steep but I've gotten to enjoy using it
[05:22] <dsch04> Ok, my first Ubuntu install is go!
[05:22] <ketsugi> Now emacs, that one is still a mystery to me!
[05:23] <elvstone> eyequeue: oops, sorry. did the sudo adduser in the wrong VT the first time :)
[05:23] <eyequeue> ketsugi, yeah, and with vimtutor, the basics are not all that bad
[05:23] <opl> mopflite: yes so the kids don't have to leard difrent programs. In school we use Linux at home they use Windows
[05:23] <rob86> is it normal to have public IPs under lo0_aliasX? for some reason my host put my "extra" ips assigned to me under lo0.. lo0_alias0, lo0_alias1, etc.. these are public IPs though and not private/local
[05:23] <elvstone> eyequeue: worked fine now.
[05:23] <StephenL> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <eyequeue> elvstone, glad to hear there was a sensible explanation :)
[05:23] <dsch04> First question: how do I configure X to support dual monitors?
[05:23] <dsch04> (laptop LCD display, and external Dell LCD panel)
[05:23] <StephenL> I get that error every time I try to try to do an apt-get update
[05:23] <thoreauputic> method|: most youtube vids are flv
[05:23] <eyequeue> !xinerama > dsch04
[05:24] <mopflite> opl: I tend to doubt that there is a cross platform ftp client - personally if I were teaching kids about computing, I would first teach them how to use command line ftp on both, and then perhaps show them some gui clients
[05:24] <opl> Ash-Fox: do you have a link?
[05:24] <dsch04> eyequeue: On FC5, there is a gnome Display app under Desktop|Administration.
[05:24] <dsch04> Is there something similar in Ubuntu?
[05:24] <eyequeue> mopflite, but ftp protocol is so not-used these days, insecure etc
[05:24] <Ash-Fox> opl, no, you can run it in cmd under windows and in the terminal on linux
[05:24] <StephenL> I tried sudo dpkg --configure -a  ... I got a bunch of dependency errors and I still get the same error.
[05:24] <phreakys> hi
[05:24] <thoreauputic> mopflite: filezilla has a windows and a linux version
[05:25] <phreakys> is there a way to dock all those seperate windows of the gimp in one big window(like photoshop)
[05:25] <phreakys> ?
[05:25] <mopflite> opl: for the linux platform, hyst type "ftp" at the command line - "man ftp" for a usage summary
[05:25] <eyequeue> mopflite, sftp perhaps, though i prefer scp
[05:25] <John[1] > Stephen are you trying to install dapper server?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> mopflite:  lftp is *way* better for cli ftp
[05:25] <opl> mopflite and Ash-Fox: I never thought about this. It is an interssting approach. I check into it.Thx for the hint
[05:26] <StephenL> John: No.  dapper desktop.
[05:26] <thoreauputic> StephenL: try  sudo apt-get -f install
[05:26] <vciaglia> hey guys, the latest "xserver-xorg" update has problem ?
[05:26] <mopflite> eyequeue: lots of web space solutions provide ftp access, but no shell access - shell access (required for sftp to work) is generally only offered with more expensive "developers pack" web hosting options
[05:26] <RuarriS> does anyone know what to do if i can choose Xgl from the sessions menu at login but Xgl won't start and i get booted back to the login screen?
[05:26] <Ash-Fox> vciaglia, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:26] <jaytee> vciaglia, it screwed up my installation
[05:26] <eyequeue> mopflite, you seem to use some strange hosting services, i'd never use one without ssh
[05:26] <StephenL> thoreauputic:  Ok.  I'll try.
[05:26] <thoreauputic> jaytee: join the ubuntu-users mailing list - that's how I found out
[05:26] <jaytee> thoreauputic, good idea
[05:26] <jaytee> :)
[05:27] <John[1] > Well I was trying that also and was getting the same errors'  I was on here last night asking question and there are so many people chatting at once that I never got a answer.
[05:27] <phreakys> hm, gimpshop any good?
[05:27] <vciaglia> Ash-Fox, and it works ?
[05:27] <erUSUL> vciaglia: Updated and fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the  system with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'. To make sure that your mirror has the new version do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'apt-cache policy  xserver-xorg-core' and check that the candidate is 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:27] <mopflite> eyequeue: pretty much every isp provided basic web hosting option in the uk does not provide shell access, and never has
[05:27] <eyequeue> mopflite, to each their own of course, but "teaching" bad practices seems unwise
[05:27] <Ash-Fox> vciaglia, yes., 10.3 doesn't.
[05:27] <thoreauputic> StephenL: last ditch method is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ( but don't do that unless you have to)
[05:27] <jaytee> John[1] , yeah.. i suffered through a long fix session last night too
[05:27] <eyequeue> mopflite, whereas my isp provides shell even for dialup
[05:28] <eyequeue> mopflite, granted, it's an aix shell, lol
[05:28] <vciaglia> erUSUL, thank you very much. I'm going to check
[05:28] <mopflite> eyequeue: in the uk at least, 90% or so of those who have web space of any kind *do not* have shell access, so usage of an ftp client is mandatory - that does not fit my personal definition of "bad practices"
[05:28] <John[1] > Right now I'm trying to install just the desktop ver. and I'm getting stuck at the partion section to install to harddrive.
[05:28] <eyequeue> mopflite, using an insecure protocol?  i'd call that bad personally  it's like using ssh version1, imo
[05:29] <Inferus> John[1]  whats up, error messages by any chance?
[05:29] <StephenL> Working now.  Thanks.
[05:29] <eyequeue> mopflite, plaintext transmission of passwords == bad, to me
[05:29] <John[1] > It is stuck on select a disk right now with nothing else showing, no drives or anyhting.
[05:29] <AHillsbe> my system will not detect  wireless card, but the ethernet card works- ibm thinkpad 390x
[05:29] <erUSUL> vciaglia: no problem
[05:29] <Inferus> the disk part of the installer is wrecked John[1] 
[05:29] <Inferus> mine wouldnt work at home
[05:29] <Mez> Seveas, ping
[05:29] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, lspci really doesn't detect it?
[05:30] <tom_> damn, missed a message for me, are there any logs online?
[05:30] <John[1] > Other than the desktop live cd.
[05:30] <esculapius> hu
[05:30] <Inferus> I personally recommend installing ubuntu-server and then apt-get'ing ubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <Mez> tom_ http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[05:30] <Inferus> i've not had any problems with the ubuntu-server install
[05:30] <ardchoille> !xorgbugfix
[05:30] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[05:30] <AHillsbe> hold on
[05:30] <Mez> !logs > tom_
[05:30] <AHillsbe> brb
[05:30] <esculapius> could anyone explain why k3b give this output
[05:30] <John[1] > Infeerus, I went that route also and was getting errors when I did the aft-get update.
[05:31] <esculapius> http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=180
[05:31] <Inferus> what error?
[05:31] <ardchoille> Oh, it's fixed? Cool. Now I can install the other machine :)
[05:31] <Inferus> apt-get update @_@
[05:31] <John[1] > The server installs with no problem, it's trying to get the desktop that is killing me.
[05:31] <Inferus> yea
[05:31] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:31] <Inferus> just do
[05:32] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[05:32] <Inferus> =] 
[05:32] <orbin> ardchoille: what was the bug?
[05:32] <Inferus> sorry
[05:32] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <eyequeue> orbin, /topic
[05:32] <esculapius> anyone
[05:32] <esculapius> http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=180
[05:32] <orbin> eyequeue: ah :)
[05:32] <ardchoille> orbin: the broken package kept X from running
[05:32] <SKossu> Question: Tried installing the new ubuntu on the comp, but didn't even get to the part where to choose partition. It got stuck after booting up the linux kernel and going trough the startup phase, It reported no errors or anything, simply stopped loading on a black screen. Am I screwing something up?
[05:32] <orbin> well i jsut upgraded to 10.3 ... i guess that's the broken one...
[05:33] <eyequeue> orbin, right ,go to 10.4 before allowing reboot
[05:33] <orbin> thanks for the tip
[05:33] <OoberMick> esculapius: try google, this was the first link  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964
[05:34] <jaytee> at least i know how to recover
[05:34] <John[1] > Okay, I'm going to reinstall the server and try it again with the fixes they suggested.
[05:34] <alek> hi
[05:34] <graveson> i am trying to determine the format of a file ie i have an mp4 file container and need to know what version of divx this is
[05:35] <John[1] > here goes
[05:35] <eyequeue> graveson, /usr/bin/file
[05:35] <jaytee> my /lib/modules was also screwed up earlier.
[05:35] <alek> i have some PC (ubuntu) with shared folder in smbfs and my PC also with ubuntu where I want to get the acces to that shared folder. I use smbmount with option "rw", but i cant write to that folder
[05:35] <jaytee> but i had a -386 version to fall back on
[05:36] <eyequeue> alek, which fs?
[05:36] <alek> in smb.conf there is written that thsi folder should be writable
[05:36] <alek> eyequeue, shared folder is in ext3
[05:36] <ardchoille> !restricted > ardchoille
[05:36] <ProN00b> uh, i have heard the horror storry that upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core fucks your box, is that true ?
[05:36] <jaytee> yay!  it's working again at 10.4
[05:36] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:36] <eyequeue> alek, ext3 writes are safe, but that smb seems for ms ppl
[05:37] <ardchoille> ProN00b: it's been fixed, so it's safe now
[05:37] <eyequeue> alek, hence i asked
[05:37] <YeTr2> whats wrong with smb?
[05:37] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:37] <AHillsbe> yes it does
[05:37] <eyequeue> YeTr2, nix ppl tend to use nfs, which is native in the kernel
[05:37] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, it is detected, don't lie.
[05:37] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, so if i get a E: Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 for xserver-xorg-core was not found my mirror isn't up to date ?
[05:38] <YeTr2> eyequeue: I find smb easier
[05:38] <alek> eyequeue, what means ms ppl?
[05:38] <Goshawk> ProN00b: apt-get update
[05:38] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, 10.3 is the 'bad' version.
[05:38] <eyequeue> alek, people who use microsoft products
[05:38] <wweasel> Hey. I was prompted by Update Manager to update something about xserver yesterday, and today when I restart it tells me "Failed to start the X server"
[05:38] <nikin> good morning
[05:38] <wweasel> And I think you're talking about this with ProN00b :P
[05:38] <ProN00b> Goshawk, did that
[05:38] <jikanter> wweasel, me too
[05:38] <eyequeue> YeTr2, i've never seen a reason, i always used nfs
[05:38] <jikanter> it happened to me today
[05:39] <alek> eyequeue, xD
[05:39] <phreakys> hi
[05:39] <yin_yang2k> What a great channel. I got help without asking anything, just rebooted my kubuntu and X is working :D
[05:39] <wweasel> jikanter: what did you do?
[05:39] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, uhm, could you gimme your mirror url seems mine isn't up to date?
[05:39] <basvg> hi all... after today's update (Dapper) the screenlock doesn't seem to work anymore (`lock screen' button) ,... does anyone know how to fix that?
[05:39] <phreakys> anyone knows where to get the gimpshop ubuntu version?
[05:39] <eyequeue> YeTr2, to me it seemed simple enough, reading howtos, back then
[05:39] <wweasel> jikanter: to fix it that is.
[05:39] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, mine's only accessible on my lan, sorry.
[05:39] <jikanter> I haven't fixed it yet
[05:39] <ProN00b> ardchoille, damn you i almost updated !
[05:39] <fuci_> What codecs do I need to install to run .mkv files with VLC?
[05:39] <eyequeue> ProN00b, propagation takes time, be patient
[05:39] <Gibbster> hi guys. Do you know what package I should use to get bonobo+python?
[05:40] <AHillsbe> my wireless card is detected, 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card----  how do i configure it?
[05:40] <ardchoille> ProN00b: Sorry about that.
[05:40] <JetDog> hey
[05:40] <nikin> AHillsbe: ther is a network config utility in ubuntu
[05:40] <JetDog> need some nfo
[05:40] <Gibbster> is it gnome-orbit?
[05:40] <ProN00b> ardchoille, can you give me your update mirror url ?
[05:40] <AHillsbe> is it the same as xubuntu
[05:41] <YeTr2> AHillsbe: is it listed in 'iwconfig' ?
[05:41] <jturek> exit
[05:41] <ardchoille> ProN00b: I only use the repos that shipped with Ubuntu, I never add anything else.
[05:41] <JetDog> I'm looking for a good stron distro that can work IN vmware and OUTSIDE of vmware from bios, both of these can be accomplished form the SAME installation.  Mandrake cant do it, redhat LOVES to wine, suse I dunno WTF is going on there... heh, can ubuntu handle this?
[05:41] <ProN00b> ardchoille, still, i think it selects a mirror when you install it, can you give me yours ?
[05:41] <alek> i mounted samba shared foler with "rw" option but it has chmod 755 so I cant write in it. how to fix it?
[05:41] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz
[05:42] <ProN00b> ardchoille, its just one line out of your sources.list
[05:42] <Ash-Fox> JetDog, in my expirence, they can all handle it just fine.
[05:42] <nikin> alek: there is a defoult chmod setting in the smb.conf
[05:42] <JetDog> wow alright.  Im for suse then.  It look pretty :)
[05:42] <ardchoille> ProN00b: hold on..
[05:42] <wweasel> Guys, me and jikanter here are having the same problem after updating our xservers yesterday. A blue screen with error messages. We can't be the only ones. Help?
[05:42] <JetDog> thx ash.  I'll give it another shot
[05:42] <AHillsbe> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <AHillsbe> irda0     no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <AHillsbe> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[05:43] <ardchoille> ProN00b: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse restricted universe
[05:43] <nikin> Ahill: the you are lacking the driver i think
[05:43] <Goshawk> ProN00b: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:43] <Goshawk> ProN00b: try that
[05:43] <AHillsbe> eth0 is not listed
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
[05:44] <SKossu> Screen goes black after going trough the phase of loading into ubuntu so that I can install, Anyone know what is wrong?
[05:44] <frogzoo> !xorgbug
[05:44] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[05:44] <IdleOne> SKossu, bad CD
[05:44] <ProN00b> Goshawk, i did, my mirror doesn't have that version yet
[05:44] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:44] <SKossu> Idelone: Tested the CD, ubuntu said it was fine
[05:44] <eyequeue> ardchoille, it would be dapper-updates, not dapper though
[05:44] <AHillsbe> where can i get a driver?
[05:44] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, then read my instructions to downgrade.
[05:45] <dojo> hey whats the diffrence between
[05:45] <dojo> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[05:45] <dojo> and
[05:45] <Goshawk> ProN00b: "add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list
[05:45] <dojo> ubuntu-6.06.1-i386.iso
[05:45] <SKossu> IdleOne: im using double screens, can that be a problem?
[05:45] <ardchoille> eyequeue: ahh, good catch
[05:45] <Goshawk> s/"add/add"
[05:45] <Ash-Fox> alternate is a text based install, usually used for servers, you want the last iso you posted.
[05:45] <ardchoille> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main multiverse restricted universe
[05:45] <sharperguy> !alternate > dojo
[05:46] <GNAM> best solution is dvd
[05:46] <IdleOne> SKossu, could be but I wouldnt know
[05:46] <dojo> i see aternative then because the ifrst time i downloaded the other one
[05:46] <dojo> is it new?
[05:46] <Goshawk> ProN00b: also this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:46] <ProN00b> Goshawk, good idea, but i just changed all ocurrences of au.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in my sources list
[05:47] <zerby> can someone tell me what the name of the livecd is, the isoname
[05:47] <AHillsbe> how can i get a driver to run 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:47] <fredl> Hmm, I had the X problem... just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and got another xserver-xorg *ponder*
[05:47] <jbroome> /topic
[05:47] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:47] <ali1234> so, the clock on my laptop died, and resets to 1978 on every reboot. will this affect the dapper install i'm currently running? i see warnings on the log...
[05:47] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:47] <fredl> yeah I saw the topic jbroome
[05:47] <Goshawk> ProN00b: perfect, now do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:47] <lupine> topic
[05:48] <fredl> that's why I dist-upgraded, apparently a new package is already there.
[05:48] <ProN00b> Goshawk, yeah, i know that ~_^, i just needed a better mirror
[05:48] <dojo> is it possiable to get ubuntu to run i text-mode
[05:48] <AHillsbe> i have ndiswrapper already
[05:48] <Flannel> dojo: sure, what you looking to do?
[05:48] <josh__> what will this command do if run as root : locate apache2|rm *
[05:48] <josh__> remove all the apache2 files found?
[05:48] <dojo> yeah i just want to experiament
[05:48] <josh__> or remove all files on the system?
[05:49] <Flannel> dojo: You want to install in textmode? or not have a GUI installed?
[05:49] <John[1] > Now the install is haninging on my dapper server install.
[05:49] <dojo> no
[05:49] <dojo> i want to install in gui
[05:49] <josh__> hello?
[05:49] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, don't tell them to wait >.> tell them to get a better mirror
[05:49] <dojo> i want a gui installed so in text mode i can type GNOME and it will come up
[05:49] <dojo> but i wont it to start up in text mode
[05:49] <Goshawk> josh__: locate will show any file that as the "pattern" in his name, rm removes them
[05:49] <orbin> josh__: all files in dir
[05:49] <AHillsbe> is anyone familiar with xubuntu?
[05:49] <orbin> ...i think
[05:50] <ali1234> dojo: remove xdm/kdm/gdm from the default runlevel
[05:50] <neels> hi, you guys talking about the crashing X server after the last update?
[05:50] <Goshawk> josh__: i'm not sure about the *
[05:50] <josh__> so if i do locate apache2|rm * it will remove all the apache2 files/folders it finds?
[05:50] <Flannel> dojo: well, you don't need to install via the gui for that, but yeah, you'll need to install, and then once its installed, you'll just... yeah, what ali1234 said
[05:50] <Goshawk> maybe orbin is right
[05:50] <Goshawk> :D
[05:50] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, get a better mirror
[05:50] <Ivanowitch> AHillsbe, a bit... :S.. why?
[05:50] <John[1] > Well it made it to the partition screen and now I'm at a blue screen.
[05:51] <Ash-Fox> (note that archive.ubuntu.com is not exactly a mirror)
[05:51] <Goshawk> josh__: i don't know if you have to put that * or not
[05:51] <orbin> josh__: well i don't think you can pipe stdout to rm....
[05:51] <dojo> so if i do what brother ali said i can boot up in text mode
[05:51] <dfgas> how do i get xmms to load with mp3s when i click on them instead of the default program?
[05:51] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, i know, its the main thin
[05:51] <dojo> and type gnome when i log in
[05:51] <rc55> Odd question, but why does the ubuntu installer run a bittorrent tracker?
[05:51] <skipf> I updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device wehn it tries to start.
[05:51] <orbin> dfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with properties
[05:51] <ali1234> dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's start-kde
[05:51] <Ash-Fox> skipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
[05:51] <Goshawk> josh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (
[05:51] <ProN00b> rc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^
[05:52] <AHillsbe> the networking utility in xubuntu will not detect my lynksys 802b pc card i have ndiswrapper do i need a different driver?
[05:52] <skipf> > I updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device
[05:52] <skipf> +wehn it tries to start.
 dfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with
[05:52] <skipf> +properties
 dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's
[05:52] <skipf> +start-kde
[05:52] <dojo> ok thx ali
[05:52] <skipf> *** Signoff: zerby ("Ik ga weg")
 skipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install
[05:52] <skipf> +xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version
[05:52] <skipf> +(provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install
[05:52] <skipf> +xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
 josh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (
 rc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^
[05:52] <ProN00b> nah, joking, rc55 dunno why, i think it would only run one if there was one installed
[05:52] <skipf> thank you!
[05:52] <orbin> skipf: don't paste in here
[05:52] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:52] <ProN00b> skipf ?
[05:53] <typhoid> hi!  i made a major disaster..  ubuntu(dapper) -- i got a notification that there was an update to xserver.. i updated and now it can't find tty7, and won't run xwindows!  i don't know what to do to get xwindows running again!  can any of you help me?
[05:53] <ProN00b> typhoid, update again
[05:53] <fdoving> typhoid: make another upgrade, it's fixed.
[05:53] <skipf> hello ProN00b
[05:53] <rc55> I noticed as I was restarting, it closed down a tracker
[05:53] <Goshawk> typhoid: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:53] <typhoid> fdoving, Goshawk -- thank you!
[05:53] <dojo> starnge is ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso surpost to be 25MB
[05:53] <ircleuser> I wonder how many people have been having the X graphics problem?
[05:53] <Ash-Fox> typhoid, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:54] <ProN00b> rc55, i am getting that too, its only for the case if you had one running
[05:54] <Goshawk> dojo: no
[05:54] <dojo> kk] 
[05:54] <Goshawk> dojo: it's about 700mb
[05:54] <fuci_> How in the world can I choose subtitles for my  .mkv ending anime-movies? Thank you ^__^
[05:54] <dojo> ill re download it
[05:54] <dojo> in my downl0oad manager
[05:54] <linux__alien> i am unable to play mpg files in Movie Player. Whats the package that i need to install
[05:54] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: that's the old fix, the new fix is to update again.
[05:54] <AHillsbe> can anyone help me with xubuntu wireless
[05:55] <lcdd> fuci_: mplayer has the -slang and -sid options
[05:55] <warlock> if i make a bash script, was the command ot make it executeable "chmod +x mybash.sh" ?
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: i think you need the (ugly) wlan-ng driver for that card
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, I gave two ways to fix it, either update or downgrade, what's wrong with what I said?
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: what is the pci id of that card?
[05:55] <fredl> Hmm, I was too eager to try and fix my Xwindows problem I think... now my server is running but it's not using DRI since it for some reason can't load kernel module fglrx
[05:55] <dojo> i think theres a channel called #xubuntu maybe they know
[05:55] <Ivanowitch> AHillsbe, you can try the wext driver... it is a generic driver...
[05:55] <orbin> !restricted > linux__alien
[05:55] <AHillsbe> how do i get that?
[05:55] <orbin> linux__alien: ubotu sent you a pm
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: lspci -n
[05:55] <Goshawk> linux__alien: look gor gstreamer0.10 packages
[05:55] <fuci_> lcdd: so I cd to my folder (where the movie is) and open it with mplayer "filename" -slang ?
[05:56] <fredl> although I do have the linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed....
[05:56] <bugnthecode> I installed kubuntu-desktop a few weeks ago so I could try kde. Now I want to remove all of kde from my system and I have. My only problem is that the bootup screen still says kubuntu. Though the shutdown screen says ubuntu. How can I change the bootup screen to say ubuntu like it did when freshly installed?
[05:56] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: downgrading will leave the user exposed to a security vuln.
[05:56] <Goshawk> !restricted > Goshawk
[05:56] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:56] <lcdd> fuci_: 'mplayer -slang en,eng filename' will probably work. if it's english you want
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, having a non-working system is worse than vulnerable for most desktop users.
[05:56] <lcdd> fuci_: just running 'mplayer filename' will tell what kind of subtitle tracks there are
[05:56] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: lspci -n   <-- do not forget the -n
[05:56] <dojo> is edgy a new ubuntu?
[05:56] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: that's why we tell users to -update- again.
[05:56] <dojo> version
[05:56] <orbin> fredl: how'd you install the fglrx driver?
[05:56] <AHillsbe> brb
[05:57] <fuci_> lcdd: ok
[05:57] <eyequeue> !edgy
[05:57] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, which I do too, the problem?
[05:57] <dojo> so cuold i download that know
[05:57] <dojo> kk
[05:57] <dojo> i see
[05:57] <eyequeue> fdoving, Ash-Fox, actually, 10.4 LEAVES the security vuln in place :(
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.0 0680: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 03)
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, haha, that sucks
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:03.0 0607: 104c:ac1f
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:03.1 0607: 104c:ac1f
[05:58] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: it seems that the initramfs image is not updated.. do you have ubuntu-desktop in your system?
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:06.0 0780: 11c1:0449 (rev 01)
[05:58] <willvdl> anyone got tips on getting sound to work? [snd_hda_intel loaded] 
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:07.0 0401: 125d:1969 (rev 02)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 10c8:0005 (rev 20)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 0200: 17fe:2120
[05:58] <fdoving> !ops
[05:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:58] <wweasel> !paste
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> Could someone please kick AHillsbe
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:58] <fuci_> lcdd: What codecs do I need for MPlayer to play .mkv files? I can play it with totem tho.
[05:58] <davorb> hey guys. can you tell me one application that i can use to show a popup and get a password from the user, from the shell?
[05:58] <eyequeue> !pastebin > AHillsbe
[05:58] <nalioth> AHillsbe: please don't paste in here
[05:58] <bugnthecode> Goshawk yep, that was how I got my gnome back apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: eyequeue haha, ok, then i'm sorry for bothering you :)
[05:58] <eyequeue> fdoving, heh, you got me thinking
[05:59] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: do this: sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:59] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: the line starting with 0000:02:00.0 0200: would have been enough
[05:59] <Goshawk> usplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image
[05:59] <StephenL> what are the proper repositories to use for compiz?
[05:59] <zowey> can anybody past me default groups that ubuntu gives to regular user?
[05:59] <josh__> nalioth: u should know the answerto this, what will "locate apache2|rm *" do?
[05:59] <orbin> davorb: simple gksudo gedit should do it i think
[05:59] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: usplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image
[05:59] <StephenL> When I try to install I keep getting an error that gset-compiz isn't available.
[05:59] <AHillsbe> sorry
[05:59] <nalioth> josh__: probably nothing
[05:59] <Flannel> StephenL: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:59] <StephenL> thanks
[06:00] <davorb> orbin: no, i want my shellscript to get a password. i dont want to get root for the app.
[06:00] <bugnthecode> Goshawk: so that just updates the initram to the correct image?
[06:00] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: probably
[06:00] <josh__> ....how do i delete all the apache2 files that were left on the computer are i did a apt-get remove apache2
[06:00] <josh__> ?
[06:00] <davorb> orbin: it just needs to be some popup that allows me to enter information, in X
[06:00] <bugnthecode> Goshawk: thanks for your help, I'll give it a reboot!
[06:00] <Flannel> josh__: do apt-get remove apache2 --purge
[06:00] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: fuck that card. i won't run: http://www.leenooks.com/Linksys+WMP11+(rev.+4)+(InProcomm+IPN2120)
[06:00] <josh__> well i suppose i could just freenx to my comp and use the synaptic...
[06:01] <josh__> ok lemme try that
[06:01] <magus_x> is there any front-end for the command to mount isos?
[06:01] <Flannel> josh__: er, apt-get --purge remove apache2 even
[06:01] <nikin> is there a lightweight desktop package for servers like ubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop, but lighter
[06:01] <trappist> josh__: apt-get remove --purge
[06:01] <orbin> davorb: ah, ok...out of my knowledge sorry.
[06:01] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: maybe it runs with ndiswrapper, but i don't know for sure
[06:01] <josh__> nope
[06:01] <OoberMick> josh__: for --purge to work you need to reinstall
[06:01] <Flannel> nikin: xubuntu would be the one, there are a few other WMs for you to try in universe though
[06:01] <josh__> it says its not installed
[06:01] <AHillsbe> i have ndiswrapper installed
[06:01] <Goshawk> josh__: apt-get --purge remvoe apache2
[06:01] <ali1234> nikin: xubuntu
[06:01] <josh__> well i did a apt-get remove apache2;apt-get clean apache2
[06:02] <Goshawk> josh__: --purge remove
[06:02] <josh__> but it left alot of docs and icons
[06:02] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: for using ndiswrapper you also need windows drivers for that card
[06:02] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: ndiswrapper is a driver-loader
[06:02] <Goshawk> josh__: apt-get clean cleans the cache
[06:02] <kads> i need help with xgl and compiz
[06:02] <nikin> Flannel: like JWM or ION? .... so first i install the xubuntu-desktop then install an other window managger
[06:02] <nikin> ok
[06:02] <josh__> screw it ill just go delete the /usr/share/apache2 folder...
[06:02] <orbin> magus_x: don't think so
[06:02] <OoberMick> josh__: apt-get install apache2 && apt-get --purge remove apache2
[06:03] <magus_x> orbin, : please give-me the command at least, i forgot
[06:03] <linux__alien> I ve installed 64 Bit version of Ubuntu but for Java and Flash plugins what do i do
[06:04] <SanketMedhi> linux__alien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:04] <Flannel> nikin: no, you can install ubuntu without a WM to begin with, you'd have to check the repositories to find out exactly what's available.  but yeah, stuff like that
[06:04] <josh__> crap! thats where the file was!?!
[06:04] <josh__> dang it
[06:04] <kads> i need help with xgl and compiz
[06:04] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[06:04] <Goshawk> kads: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:04] <AHillsbe> thanks for the link
[06:04] <JDahl> how do I enable my wireless netcard from a console?  iwconfig shows the correct device, connected to correct router. But it hasn't been assigned an IP address yet
[06:05] <josh__> apache2ctl is in /usr/sbin....for future reference everyone.... :(
[06:05] <ircleuser> Are there any other updates for Ubuntu besides those shown in the Update Manager?
[06:05] <nikin> JDahl: man iwconfig
[06:05] <richiefrich> ircleuser sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distro-update
[06:05] <ali1234> JDahl: sudo dhclient wlan0
[06:06] <ircleuser> Richiefric: Thanks.
[06:06] <richiefrich> np
[06:06] <Flannel> ircleuser: nope, that should be all of them
[06:06] <HeathenDan> how do i stop nautilus from opening a new window when i insert a cd?
[06:06] <magus_x> what is the command to mount iso?
[06:06] <JDahl> ali1234: you're a lifesafer! thanks
[06:06] <Chousuke> mount -o loop iso.image /mount/path
[06:06] <ali1234> HeathenDan: system->preferences->removable drives and media
[06:06] <ircleuser> Richiefric: What do those commands give you that the update manager doesn't?
[06:07] <willvdl> got intel 945 chipset on laptop, but no sound. any clues?
[06:07] <Chousuke> You may have to specify a filesystem too
[06:07] <richiefrich> magus_x  mount -t iso9660 -o loop  foo.iso  /mnt/iso
[06:07] <Phoul> hey uhh when might x be stable to update
[06:07] <Phoul> lol
[06:07] <ali1234> HeathenDan: uncheck "browse removable media when inserted"
[06:07] <Goshawk> ircleuser: they are the same, but from command line...
[06:07] <HeathenDan> ok
[06:07] <Flannel> Phoul: fix is in most repositories now
[06:07] <ircleuser> Goshawk: Oh. I see.
[06:08] <Phoul> k i will wait till tomorrow just for safety
[06:08] <Ash-Fox> Phoul, when you see 10.4 in your repository.
[06:08] <Phoul> Ash-Fox, how do you check the version?
[06:09] <Ash-Fox> I just click details in 'adept' on the package.
[06:09] <Stevko> do new versions of software get to repository (e.g.: VLC 0.8.5, OpenOffice 2.0.3)?
[06:09] <Ash-Fox> you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to it if you want (provided your mirror has it).
[06:10] <Goshawk> Phoul: apt-cache show
[06:10] <Goshawk> Phoul: add package-name
[06:10] <Phoul> Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[06:11] <Goshawk> Phoul: it's the bugged version
[06:11] <UncleOp22> On a lighter note: would someone have a pointer to a howto or cookbook for "upgrading" to Ubuntu from RH9?  The wiki and help I've seen so far simply point out the differences between apt and rpm, but don't suggest how best to keep custom settings.  (MigrationAssistance on the wiki is promising, but this is a linux->linux migration...)  I'm downloading the Desktop CD ISO right now...
[06:11] <Phoul> k i will wiat then :p
[06:11] <magus_x> what is the command to mount iso?
[06:12] <ali1234> UncleOp22: just back up /home
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> UncleOp22,  backup your /home is about all you can do.  and /etc/ i guess.. but then ya got to  compare the configs for differances.. since there may be differetn versions, and even different locations for the different programs/configs
[06:12] <ali1234> UncleOp22: and maybe some stuff from /etc if you really need to
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Ive had some bad issues with gnome/kde when keeping /home
[06:13] <magus_x> Dr_Willis, : like?
[06:13] <Goshawk> magus_x: mount -o loop /path/file.iso /mnt/mountpoint/
[06:13] <pvaras>  i can donwnload u lite
[06:13] <magus_x> thanks, i will write it
[06:14] <UncleOp22> s'ok - that's what I figured would be the case (/home and /etc).  My KDE is as old as the hills, too.
[06:14] <pvaras> hello
[06:14] <Goshawk> magus_x: change /mnt/mountpoint with whatever you want (also a dir under your $HOME)
[06:14] <pvaras> algun hispamo
[06:14] <ketsugi> How do I specify a non-default gcc version when using ./configure?
[06:14] <ketsugi> what's the proper syntax?
[06:14] <Goshawk> pvaras: hello
[06:14] <pvaras> hello
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> magus_x,  like KDE and GNOME not starting due to their configs being messed up.
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[06:15] <ircleuser> x
[06:15] <Goshawk> ketsugi: the argument should be CC=gcc-version, but let me investigate
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: unless you are cross compiling, that's a whole different story
[06:15] <ketsugi> without quotation marks?
[06:15] <Goshawk> ketsugi: ah follow ali1234
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: yes, without
[06:15] <utab> help needed for mounting network drives
[06:15] <UncleOp22> thanks Dr_Willis and ali1234
[06:16] <PPower> Hi all, I am using vncserver4, but sudo doesnt seem to work. I enter the password, but nothing happens
[06:16] <Goshawk> PPower: xterm under vncserver4?
[06:16] <PPower> yes, with twm
[06:16] <PPower> su -c no worky too
[06:16] <orbin> ketsugi: are you installing something?
[06:16] <ali1234> utab: what kind of network drives? smb (windows)?
[06:17] <utab> ali1234: smb
[06:17] <PPower> Goshawk: Hmm, dont I remember you, (i am sometimes known as lsproc)
[06:17] <Goshawk> PPower: yep i rememver that name
[06:17] <ketsugi> orbin: trying to compile KMobileTools
[06:17] <PPower> Hey!
[06:17] <Goshawk> PPower: this should be not a vnc issue
[06:17] <utab> ali1234: I have tried http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read but no use
[06:17] <PPower> ok
[06:18] <dsch04> eyequeue: Thanks.
[06:18] <Goshawk> PPower: because vnc just sends images of the screen
[06:18] <PPower> Goshawk: It works when not in VNC though
[06:18] <bj_> Hello, I installed a new mobo / cpu and am having some stability problems. Most stuff seems OK, but coming back from a screensaver will sometimes lock up the box. Is there a command I should run to reset ubuntu for the new board
[06:18] <PPower> one mo actually
[06:18] <ali1234> utab: get an error message?
[06:18] <utab> ali1234: yes
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> PPower,  enter the password where/how in vnc?
[06:18] <orbin> ketsugi: something wrong w/ the repos version?
[06:18] <utab> ali1234: put them in the pastebin
[06:19] <PPower> PPower: su -c mount command, in xterm
[06:19] <PPower> why did I message myself?
[06:19] <Goshawk> PPower: you said that if you log in (not in vnc) you can do it, isn't it?
[06:19] <crparr> Hi! I'm using kubuntu 6.06 on an amd64 machine. This morning Adept had one update for me. xorg. I did the upgrade. This evening I started my PC and XOrg did not Start. The first error were GL errors.
[06:19] <dapet> Anyone know some good java doc's?
[06:20] <orbin> bj_: possible video issue?  are you using the same video card?
[06:20] <utab> crparr : take a look at unbuntuforums.org
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> we need to keep track of everyone asking that. :P and how many times we say 'its answered in the topic' :)
[06:20] <Goshawk> crparr:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:20] <ProN00b> crparr, update&&upgrade again
[06:20] <synic> dapet: for what?
[06:20] <PPower> PPower: In normal usage, it works fine. In VNC it doesnt. It might be the user account
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:20] <orbin> dapet: perhaps you should ask in the java channel
[06:20] <bj_> orbin: yeah same vid card, ram , and psu
[06:20] <ketsugi> orbin: yeah, I'm compiling the svn version and it's crashing for an unknown reason. the kmobiletools dev asked me to try gcc 3.4
[06:20] <crparr> After commrnting out the lines in my xorg conf, I discovered another error. Xorg does not detect my graphics card. It is a Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT from Leadtek.
[06:20] <utab> ali1234: have you done that before
 what are there name, and how do join them?
[06:20] <crparr> What do I have to do to make it work?
[06:21] <ProN00b> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:21] <Ash-Fox> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:21] <fredl> anybody know how this may happen: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" (I have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed, but I have had the 8.27 driver installed using the procedure on the ATI Wiki, so maybe something was left behind when I went back to 8.25 ?)
[06:21] <ali1234> utab: i'm confused. where's your paste? have i done what before?
[06:21] <PPower> Goshawk: Ah, user account is the prob. ill check the sudoers file
[06:21] <jorgg> is it possible to change spell check language in gaim?
[06:21] <utab> ali1234: have you mounted network drives before
[06:21] <orbin> dapet: /j #java should work
[06:21] <Goshawk> PPower: if the user is the problem it should not work even if you are logged without vnc
[06:21] <ali1234> utab: yeah loads of times
[06:22] <ali1234> utab: you need a few none-obvious packages to make it work...
[06:22] <dapet>  /j #java
[06:22] <utab> ali1234 : I have not pasted but will paste shortly
[06:22] <PPower> Goshawk: Yeah, ill edit the sudoers
[06:22] <fredl> is there a way to verify a .deb to see if the original contents are still installed?
 where do I write it?
[06:22] <jorgg> how can i check if my system support UTF8?
[06:22] <ircleuser> What does the Synaptic Package Manager do?
[06:22] <orbin> dapet: in a channel/server window
[06:22] <Goshawk> PPower: now i remember, you posted many times on nanofreesoft, isn't it?
[06:23] <fredl> ircleuser - it manages your packages.
[06:23] <orbin> !synaptic > ircleuser
[06:23] <ProN00b> i wonder who screwed that thing with the xserver up, and why it didn't get detected
[06:23] <Goshawk> PPower: and lsproc was your name
[06:23] <PPower> Yes, i built upower for you
[06:23] <crparr> thanks
[06:23] <TokenBad> I heard bad things abou the new xserver-org-core...that it is messing things up...should I update?
[06:23] <Goshawk> PPower: yes :d
[06:23] <Goshawk> :D
[06:23] <dapet> orbin> it is not the right name
[06:23] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, Fabio M. Di Nitto
[06:23] <jorgg> is there other callenders than evolution hsupporting the clock in X?
[06:24] <ProN00b> lol, Ash-Fox ^^
[06:24] <lamego> TokenBad, you should not
[06:24] <Goshawk> TokenBad: now the bugged version is fixed, install the ubuntu10.4 version
[06:24] <dapet> What are the java channel named?
[06:24] <utab> ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21409
[06:24] <Ash-Fox> ##java
[06:24] <PPower> w000t! ITS FIXED!
[06:24] <TokenBad> Goshawk, how do I tell which one is right?
[06:24] <utab> ali1234: there are the errors and fstab
[06:24] <ProN00b> TokenBad, to make sure you get the right version you can do apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:24] <Goshawk> TokenBad:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:24] <crparr> thanks
[06:25] <hadi> how can I change to text screen
[06:25] <hadi> ?
[06:25] <lamego> Goshawk, you you need to specify the version, isn't the last version installed automatically ?
[06:25] <fredl> hadi - ctrl-alt-F1
[06:25] <hadi> thx
[06:25] <utab> CRTL+ALT+F1
[06:25] <anett6454> ez itt mire j?
[06:25] <Goshawk> lamego: sure, but the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository
[06:25] <ProN00b> lamego, actually the newest version (that version) is installed automatically, but sometimes patch mirrors aren't up to date
[06:26] <fredl> I think Ubuntu 6 is kinda stressing the support channel :P
[06:26] <Goshawk> lamego: in that way, you force the lastest fixed one
[06:26] <PPower> Bye! Thanks for your help all!
[06:26] <ProN00b> Goshawk, stop telling half-truths
[06:26] <lamego> Gonzo, you mean, i may not have the latest one :)
[06:26] <ali1234> utab: make sure you have samba, samba-common and smbfs installed
[06:26] <lamego> ok, understood :)
[06:26] <fredl> so does anybody get paid on here to answer questions?
[06:26] <Goshawk> ProN00b: ?
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> fredl, no.
[06:26] <orbin> fredl: we wish
[06:26] <Goshawk> ProN00b: do you mean phrases in mutiple lines?
[06:27] <fredl> well some people should get paid, I often see the same people answering questions.
[06:27] <ProN00b> "the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository" => "the latest version in your repository could be still bugged"
[06:27] <buntu418> how to use the midi keyboard in prodikeys creative midi keyboard
[06:27] <alex_> cool. broken x11 in the stable distro
[06:27] <Ash-Fox> alex_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:27] <fredl> I mean, how come the CD's are free? who's paying for that?
[06:27] <utab> ali1234: they are all here
[06:28] <Elephant> I noticed a package for older versions of Ubuntu that adds web-admin functionality to a box
[06:28] <alex_> Ash-Fox: yeah i figured that out myself
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> fredl, people are paying it from their pockets, donating money.
[06:28] <ali1234> utab: so can you mount those shares from the command line?
[06:28] <Elephant> but I can't find the correponding package in Dapper
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  a Millionare Sponser :P
[06:28] <Elephant> Does anyone know what the deal is with that?
[06:28] <Goshawk> ProN00b: they say the same things for me...
[06:28] <fredl> Dr_Willis, I heard something about that, could he not also pay some people to sit here on IRC ?
[06:29] <utab> ali1234: by the usual mount
[06:29] <dapet> What are the java channel named?
[06:29] <synic> dapet: ##java.... but what is your question?
[06:29] <orbin> Elephant: what package?
[06:29] <orbin> synic: i think he summed it up
[06:29] <ProN00b> Goshawk, they actually mean the same, but the first sentence (your sentence) could mean something else too (not to mention the two typos)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  theres is a rather detailed and well done web site/forums that have 99% of the answers to 99% of all the questions asked here.. :P
[06:30] <fredl> Dr_Willis, where? not ubuntu.org right?
 I want to find some documentation, so can learn the language and have a register of all the "cammand words"
[06:30] <fredl> ehr ubuntu.com
[06:30] <SilverMonk> hey there i have just installed Ubuntu and I am having a few issues...
[06:30] <fredl> SilverMonk - like?
[06:31] <kitsuneofdoom> I think someone should either tinyurl the topic (someone using a terminal is going to be annoyed typing out all this stuff) or putting the sudo commands in the topic
[06:31] <typhoid> thanks for getting  my xserver running again =)
[06:31] <SilverMonk> well for one why can i only use 1024x768 resolution?
[06:31] <SilverMonk> i know my screen is capable of better
[06:31] <synic> dapet: honestly, the docs at java.sun.com are the best.
[06:31] <Ash-Fox> I don't like tinyurls
[06:31] <Goshawk> i agree with kitsuneofdoom
[06:31] <Ash-Fox> The domain doesn't resolve for me, ever.
[06:31] <utab> ali1234: I used sudo mount //filesrv/pool ~/documents/MECH_POOL -t smbfs -o username=utabak,password=Utab1905 -o gid=users,dmask=777,fmask=777,rw
[06:31] <utab> ali1234: and the result again the same error
[06:31] <fredl> SilverMonk, nope, usually you can do better resolutions than that. Does your monitor support DPMS or is it a real old one?
[06:32] <ircleuser> Are there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?
[06:32] <SilverMonk> its a laptop one lol
[06:32] <buntu418> how to use a midi keyboard.. whch music program will allow me to intact with tht.. plssssssssssssssssssss help
[06:32] <SilverMonk> thats all i really know
[06:32] <easytiger> any fallout from the xorg update?
 okay... but are there a helpfull "java how to"? I were not able to find, but maybi I am blind ;)
[06:32] <kingrayray> is xserver-xorg-core fixed yet?
[06:32] <kingrayray> (is it safe to update)
[06:32] <fredl> kingrayray, yes I believe so.
[06:32] <ProN00b> SilverMonk, how you know it can do better resolutions ?
[06:32] <orbin> SilverMonk: common issue unfortunately: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:32] <kingrayray> can you shoot me the wget/dpkg line to fix it just incase? :P
[06:32] <Goshawk> kingrayray: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:32] <SilverMonk> for one its widescreen
[06:32] <synic> dapet: first things first.  Do you have the jdk installed?
[06:32] <PPower> Back again, how do you change the message that appears after you log in (e.g. the bit with the (c))
[06:32] <Ash-Fox> kingrayray, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:32] <ali1234> utab: wha does dmesg say?
[06:33] <Goshawk> PPower: is the problem solved?
[06:33] <kingrayray> okay
[06:33] <PPower> yeah
[06:33] <PPower> it was the sudoers file
[06:33] <kingrayray> thanks uh.. all you neat people who told me what to do =)
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  the ubuntu wiki is also a very good guide.  I need to spend more time exploring it all.
[06:33] <SilverMonk> ok i've got this link...i'll try this
[06:33] <SilverMonk> hopefully it will work :)
[06:33] <synic> dapet: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
[06:33] <SilverMonk> cuz 1024x768 sucks lol
[06:34] <Goshawk> !help > Goshawk
[06:34] <dapet> synic> I have everything installed, even Eclipse ;)
[06:34] <hadi> how can I change computer name after [at]  in terminal?
[06:34] <utab> ali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21412
[06:34] <PPower> Goshawk: How do I change the message that appears after console login
[06:34] <dapet> synic> I have worked with Java a half year ago, but stopped and now I want to start againg.. So I need som doc's ;)
[06:34] <Goshawk> can someone add this to ubotu? "you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade"
[06:34] <orbin> !hostname > hadi
[06:34] <ali1234> utab: try changing the fs type from smbfs to cifs
[06:34] <synic> dapet: that url I gave you should work.
[06:34] <ircleuser> Are there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?
[06:34] <Goshawk> PPower: i don't knwo let me investigate
[06:34] <PPower> ok
[06:34] <hadi> yes
[06:35] <PPower> i need to package up some files
[06:35] <rhyddin> hey all
[06:35] <PPower> hey
[06:35] <ProN00b> ircleuser, lol
[06:35] <utab> ali1234 : the same
[06:35] <KrakensDen> ircleuser, no, it's all boring
[06:35] <ircleuser> ProN00b: Lol. I'm new, and I want to see the cool stuff :-D
[06:35] <eugman> Hey, I blindly updated just now and then saw Digg shouting "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!". Is xserver still broken or were they updates harmless at this point?
[06:35] <KrakensDen> they've gotten fixed
[06:35] <KrakensDen> finally
[06:35] <orbin> Goshawk: well, there's already the xorgbugfix factoid
[06:36] <albacker> guys can someone help me ? the page with w32codecs.deb seems to be down ?! where can i find it else ?!
[06:36] <lamego> eugman, update using the command from Goshawk , that will check for the proper update
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, you could for example hack some windows computers while looking at your completely 3d desktop ^^
 thx you are the hero of the day :D
[06:36] <orbin> hadi: ubotu sent you a pm
[06:36] <Goshawk> !xorgbugfix > Goshawk
[06:36] <hadi> OK
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, cool enough ?
[06:36] <utab> ali1234 : I remembered that I had a script for this before so I will pastebin that as well, may be you can know where to put that for automount
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, unfortunately that also requires some skill ^^
[06:36] <ircleuser> ProN00b: Do you mean with xgl?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  i often get the latest from the mplayer homepage
[06:36] <ircleuser> :-)
[06:36] <ProN00b> ya, xgl
[06:36] <albacker> Dr_Willis: mplayerhq.hu right ?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  i always google for it
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:36] <ali1234> utab: tbh i'm clutching at straws now. i've never had this much trouble
[06:37] <ravenous> if i wanted to make one dir on my system for all users to access for songs, vids etc where would a good place be? under /share or something is there a better spot for it?
[06:37] <albacker> Dr_Willis: im not finding the link.. ok ill google too
[06:37] <Goshawk> orbin: it's good, but there is not "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4" command
[06:37] <albacker> Dr_Willis: wheres the link ?
[06:38] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:38] <hadi> I change it absolutly but it does not shown in terminal
[06:38] <Ramunas> hello
[06:38] <Ash-Fox> Ramunas, hello.
[06:38] <utab> ali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21414
[06:38] <kingrayray> hey, how can i get gtk apps running with sudo permissions to use the same gtk theme as my user?
[06:39] <Ramunas> I'm thinking of buying a new pc, I was wondering if "ubuntu+sata=problems" is true?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  the mplayer page/server also hosts the w32codecs last i looked. last month or so..
[06:39] <PPower> Ramunas: No prob with my nForce 4 SATA
[06:39] <orbin> Goshawk: so alter it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:39] <Goshawk> PPower: i don't know, look at google
[06:39] <PPower> ok, thanks
[06:39] <Goshawk> orbin: tahnks
[06:39] <Minty> help please, afetr update last nite I have now x server not working and can only boot into 'terminal scrren'
[06:39] <orbin> yw
[06:39] <Minty> what do I have to do
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> Minty, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:39] <buntu418> how to use a midi keyboard with ubuntu to compose music.. any music guys using ubuntu????? i hav a prodikeys creative keyboard!!! plssssss
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  right there on the download page. :P
[06:40] <orbin> Goshawk: Ash-Fox seems to be doing a good job though :)
[06:40] <orbin> no need for ubotu
[06:40] <ali1234> buntu418: the only midi app i could get working was bristol
[06:40] <utab> ali1234: but could not understand why I can not mount that from command line
[06:40] <ProN00b> buntu418, you could search for apps on freshmeat or sourceforge
[06:40] <Goshawk> orbin: yep he's better that ubotu :D, isn't it Ash-Fox?
[06:40] <albacker> Dr_Willis: the essential package ?
[06:40] <Goshawk> s/that/than
[06:40] <ProN00b> or with synaptic of course, buntu418
[06:40] <Ash-Fox> Well, it's a issue that isn't going to last very long anyway.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  or a quick look at the install guide shows -->  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html
[06:41] <snoops> how can I do a line count on a file?
[06:41] <OoberMick> snoops: wc -l
[06:41] <snoops> wc -l filename?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  hmm i recall seeing deb packages tehre befor.. wonder where they went.
[06:41] <OoberMick> snoops: yeah
[06:41] <snoops> great
[06:41] <snoops> thanks you
[06:42] <ali1234> utab: ah well your script uses smbmount not mount
[06:42] <Stephenl> I'm unable to log in to X even after downgrading and upgrading.  It logs me in for a second then kicks me back to the X login screen
[06:42] <ali1234> utab: did you try mount -t cifs...
[06:42] <Stephenl> What could be causing this?
[06:42] <c0nf> Hey! Im from phone. ATM. Installing Ubuntu. I have 2 HDDs. What I need to chose? Both primary ext3?
[06:42] <utab> ali1234: yes
[06:42] <utab> ali1234 : you have suggested that as well
[06:42] <linux__alien> i am unable to execute the 32 bit version of Firefox in my 64 bit version
[06:42] <cfedde> is there a way to get around the 2Gbyte file size limitation of smbfs mount points?
[06:42] <c0nf> ???
[06:43] <ali1234> utab: i don't know then. sorry
[06:43] <utab> ali1234 : but normal mount also does not work
[06:43] <c0nf> utab?
[06:43] <dsch04> easyubuntu.freecontrib.org seems to be down... or is it just me?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> cfedde,  i though that limit got removed some time ago.
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:43] <Ramunas> can you guys look and tell me will this machine work fine with Ubuntu, I just want to make sure that I'll be able to use it
[06:43] <Ramunas> http://pastebin.com/773327
[06:43] <utab> c0nf: trying to mount a samba drive but no success
[06:44] <ali1234> cfedde: use cifs instead of smb
[06:44] <fredl> how can it be that X says [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" ?
[06:44] <c0nf> Can u help me?
[06:44] <c0nf> Plz scroll lil bit up
[06:44] <cfedde> ali1234: thanks
[06:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, a error occured, that's how.
[06:44] <snoops> hehe OoberMick maybe I shouldn't have tried this on a file with close to 3 million database records ;)
[06:44] <buntu418> thank guys.. hav to try cos i dont know whehter ubuntu had detected the midi keyboard o not
[06:44] <utab> c0nf : tell your problem
[06:44] <ali1234> buntu418: http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/?q=midihack5
[06:45] <hadi> how can I change hostname in terminal?
[06:45] <esc_ape> how can I find out what driver my wireless pci card uses? any command I can put in the terminal?
[06:45] <jpjacobs> hadi, change it in /etc/hostname
[06:45] <utab> hadi : take a look at shell variables
[06:45] <OoberMick> snoops: perhaps not... you might be there a while
[06:45] <c0nf> Im installing ubuntu, i have 2 hdds
[06:45] <fredl> Ash-Fox, How can I troubleshoot that though?
[06:45] <ramvi> I've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still gf
[06:45] <ramvi> ups
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> fredl, I would look at the logs /var/log/xorg.0.log or something like that.
[06:45] <hadi> I change it but it does not shown in terminal
[06:45] <c0nf> What i need to choose
[06:45] <Stephenl> Ash-Fox:  I tried both and I still can't login.
[06:45] <c0nf> Both ext3?
[06:46] <fredl> Ash-Fox, that's where I got that message from.
[06:46] <ramvi> I've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still fglrx returns OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org. What do I do for it to use the ati drivers?
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, they are different commands, choose one and stick with it.
[06:46] <Goshawk> Ramunas: it should go, but look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:46] <c0nf> ?
[06:46] <fredl> ramvi - apt-get  install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:46] <looktj> X wont boot
[06:47] <jbroome> ohnoes
[06:47] <jdodson> looktj: join the club.
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, if you can install one of them properly, and x doesn't start on next reboot, you can try doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:47] <fredl> looktj - read the subject line.
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> looktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:47] <xxpor2> !xorgbug > looktj
[06:47] <looktj> how do i update w/o reinstalling
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> looktj: 10.4 is now available in the repos
[06:47] <c0nf> Plz help faster im from phone
[06:47] <looktj> im on live cd
[06:47] <ramvi> fredl, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is allready the newest version... :(
[06:48] <utab> how to install smbmonut
[06:48] <buntu418> ali1234: tht app doesnt support my prodikeys creative keyboard.. thanks
[06:48] <ramvi> utab, sudo apt-get install samba
[06:48] <Goshawk> utab: sudo apt-get install packageName
[06:48] <ex_> I can't install libfaac0 on 606. because it needs  libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) . Help!
[06:48] <fredl> ramvi - grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:48] <ali1234> buntu418: it should do, if it's a standard midi device
[06:49] <looktj> do i have to reinstall?
[06:49] <fredl> ramvi - got any 'failed to load kernel module "fglrx"' in there?
[06:49] <looktj> since i cant update?
[06:49] <fredl> why can't you update?
[06:49] <buntu418> ali1234: oh i see.. thanks.. now installing
[06:49] <looktj> it just shows kubuntu
[06:50] <ramvi> fredl, yeah
[06:50] <ramvi> fredl, http://pastebin.com/773333
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> pipesmoker, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:50] <fredl> ramvi - then you have the same problem I have I think.
[06:50] <Goshawk> looktj: do you are having X troubles?
[06:50] <zithowa> what is the type of expression used in most shells?
[06:50] <Chu> Hello, everyone! I have recently switched monitors for this machine, and now the viewing area seems to go a bit off the screen to the right and bottom. I recall seeing a fix for this, but I have no idea where or how to correct this. :/
[06:50] <looktj> i cant update cause of x bug
[06:50] <buntu418> ali1234: hey i installed.. wherer to find it
[06:51] <pipesmoker> Ash-Fox: thx for the repitition, i downgraded allready, still waiting for the update...
[06:51] <hadi> how can I be root in graphical interface?
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, the same problem? The same as who?
[06:51] <fredl> ramvi - yup, exactly the same message I get.
[06:51] <PPower> hadi: Gnome login?
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, what do we do?
[06:51] <hadi> yes
[06:51] <Goshawk> looktj: you can, follow me: are you logged into your machine in the shell?
[06:51] <fredl> ramvi - and your ATI card used to work fine until today?
[06:51] <zithowa> they are not quite standard regular expressions (since * actually means .*)... so what are they?
[06:51] <ali1234> buntu418: at console: startBristol
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, nah. New Macbook pro
[06:51] <PPower> hadi: Go to login screen config. I think it is in Administation
[06:51] <buntu418> ali1234: thanks'
[06:51] <ali1234> buntu418: and then follow the instructions for aconnect
[06:52] <Goshawk> PPower: did you found the file in which there is written the login message?
[06:52] <PPower> No
[06:52] <harisund> I was just wondering, how will I know what ports my firewall is blocking. I couldn't log in to my own box locally using SSH, but it took me a while to realize iptables chains disallowed SSH on my eth0 interface ?
[06:52] <PPower> Goshawk: Checked bashrc and bash_profiel
[06:52] <fredl> ramvi - I think it's because of the trouble with xorg-core today, can't think of any other reason why it wouldn't be able to load the kernel module.
[06:52] <looktj> GosHawk: I'm on the live cd
[06:52] <Goshawk> PPower: me too
[06:52] <PPower> hadi: Then check the Allow root login box in Security
[06:52] <ramvi> so I can just start up with an old kernel?
[06:52] <PPower> Goshawk: Do you think it is hard coded
[06:52] <fredl> ramvi - I just have the complication that I manually installed the 8.27 drivers manually and thought that might be the source of my problems.
[06:52] <Goshawk> looktj: you have to be on you pc (no live cd)
[06:53] <hadi> thx
[06:53] <Goshawk> looktj: do you know how to login from text mode?
[06:53] <Supremacy> Hey, Could anyone please help me?
[06:53] <ramvi> fredl, but it wqa
[06:53] <PPower> Goshawk: Found it
[06:53] <PPower> /etc/motd
[06:53] <fredl> ramvi - don't think so, since the kernel hasn't been update.
[06:53] <Minty> Ash-Fox got x server working thanks a lot, saw this on web site but didnt ,nned it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, yes?
[06:53] <Goshawk> Supremacy: you should explain your problem
[06:53] <looktj> Goshawk: how do i login if there's no login screen
[06:53] <ramvi> hmm
[06:53] <kingrayray> hey guys, does gdm use a different xorg.conf? sometimes it seems to use settings that i no longer have set in xorg.conf, while startx has no issues
[06:53] <fredl> ramvi, what's wqa?
[06:53] <lwizardl> hi
[06:53] <Supremacy> I ca'r start X
[06:53] <Goshawk> looktj: don't you get the text based login?
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> Minty, no problem.
[06:53] <Supremacy> cant*
[06:54] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:54] <Goshawk> looktj: when x does not work you can login in text mode
[06:54] <buntu418> ali1234: plss see the private msg
[06:54] <ramvi> fredl, typo :P but it did't work?
[06:54] <looktj> Goshawk no, just Kubuntu in blue text
[06:54] <ali1234> buntu418: i didn;t get any msg. are you registered?
[06:54] <buntu418> nop
[06:54] <looktj> do i do ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:54] <Supremacy> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[06:54] <buntu418> where to see the aconnect
[06:54] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: can i call you with "Ash-Fox: Xbug" :D ?
[06:55] <fredl> ramvi, the xorg-core update today caused trouble so I thought maybe it was because of my 8.27 manual install. Yeah it worked earlier, and it worked just fine.
[06:55] <ali1234> buntu418: at the console
[06:55] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, I suppose :P
[06:55] <looktj> brb
[06:55] <PPower> Goshawk: I found the filename :)
[06:55] <Goshawk> looktj: yep you have to dounf  a free terminal with ctrl+alt+f[1-9] 
[06:55] <OoberMick> Ash-Fox: you're going to regret that
[06:55] <Goshawk> PPower: where is it?
[06:55] <fredl> ramvi, so I tried to go back to 8.25 and thought that perhaps 8.27 files were in there that caused the prob I'm having now.
[06:55] <PPower> Goshawk: /etc/motd
[06:55] <buntu418> nothing abt aconnect in consol
[06:55] <Goshawk> PPower: looking
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> OoberMick, why?
[06:56] <ramvi> :(
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, what xserver-xorg-core version do you have installed?
[06:56] <buntu418> ali1234: the last thing it shows is"allocated 48 colors
[06:56] <fredl> does anybody use fglrx and does NOT have problems with hardware 3D after today's mess-up?
[06:56] <OoberMick> Ash-Fox: RSI from typing the same thing over and over
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl still not worink
[06:57] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, sorry, i'm a new linux user. How can I see what xorg version I have?
[06:57] <richiefrich> workin*
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl :(
[06:57] <ali1234> buntu418: you may need to: sudo modprobe snd-seq
[06:57] <fredl> richiefrich, same here. can't load the kernel module for you either?
[06:57] <PPower> Supremacy: I suppose you dont have graphical at the mo
[06:57] <Stromberg`> hi everyone
[06:58] <PPower> Hi
[06:58] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[06:58] <PPower> bah, you beat me :)
[06:58] <buntu418> ali1234: u mean before opening the program?
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl no didnt we discuss the new X 7.1?3
[06:58] <Stromberg`> is there a graphical interface for opening ports in ubuntu?
[06:58] <Stromberg`> like 6801,tcp
[06:58] <ali1234> buntu418: yes, if it fails to run properly
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl and that u think u have a strange problem
[06:58] <PPower> Stromberg`: Not that I know of, Using firestarter?
[06:58] <fredl> richiefrich, oh, I solved that!!!
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl did u ever contact ATi?
[06:58] <linux__alien> All of a sudden my Browser does not connect to the internet. i am using pppoe to connect to the internet
[06:58] <Stromberg`> PPower, i dont know firestarter
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl what was it ?
[06:58] <linux__alien> could some one help me please?
[06:59] <PPower> Stromberg`: Do you have it installed? Check in the menus
[06:59] <fredl> richiefrich, remember I got the 2D only driver to work at least? well, that one started getting fickle on me too.
[06:59] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you talking from the same pc in which firefox is running?
[06:59] <linux__alien> The other stuff works but Firefox does not work after some time when i am on line
[06:59] <richiefrich> fredl yes yes tell me more
[06:59] <linux__alien> yes
[06:59] <ex_> I can't install libfaac0 on dapper because it needs   libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) which is not in dapper. I thought of using equivs but that would be bad.. Ideas?
[06:59] <Goshawk> linux__alien: check proxies
[06:59] <linux__alien> Goshawk, yes i am now able to chat using irc and even synaptic is working
[06:59] <fredl> richiefrich, so then it became time to open up the box and get rid of the damn video card. Turned out the fan wasn't spinning.
[06:59] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, And now? you know I think there's something wrong with my xorg.conf file...
[06:59] <ravenous> what permissions do i have to give a '/archive' directory so all my users can read and write and execute anything from any dir inside it?
[06:59] <buntu418> ali1234: the programs is open .. doesnt make any sound ...keyboard doesnt work with it
[06:59] <linux__alien> but after some minutes Firefox does not connect to the internet
[06:59] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, well, what is the version?
[07:00] <fredl> richiefrich, it got hot and apparently the fglrx driver makes it hotter faster than the radeon driver.
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: edit---preferencies--general
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: then connection settings
[07:00] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, I don't know... doesn't show any version
[07:00] <Stromberg`> PPower, now installed it... it tells me about "Do a new firewall"
[07:00] <Stromberg`> does it use iptables?
[07:00] <ali1234> buntu418: what about if you click on the keys with the mouse?
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you there?
[07:00] <fredl> richiefrich, so I installed a new fan, voila, works. And now the fglrx driver worked fine too, until today's mess-up that is :)
[07:00] <linux__alien> yes
[07:00] <PPower> Stromberg`: Ok, im confused, im not atLinux at the mo. I believe so, run through the wizard
[07:00] <TooTallJones> Anyone care to help me configure my ATI 9550 I get direct rendering: no and 3d applications aren't working at all
[07:00] <linux__alien> i dont have a proxy
[07:00] <dapet> Are there a way to make all text bigger in Firefox?
[07:00] <ircleuser> How can I use Lynx to visit a website?
[07:00] <Goshawk> set "direct connection"
[07:00] <TooTallJones> i've tried all three possible drivers, and no dice
[07:00] <linux__alien> i ve direct connection to the net
[07:01] <Stromberg`> ok thx m8
[07:01] <PPower> ircleuser: Type g and the url
[07:01] <buntu418> ali1234: no sound
[07:01] <ircleuser> PPower: Thanks.
[07:01] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, what does it show?
[07:01] <Goshawk> linux__alien: is is set as "direc connection" yet?
[07:01] <PPower> np
[07:01] <ali1234> buntu418: try changing the keyboard preset, click the on screen number pad
[07:01] <linux__alien> yes
[07:01] <ircleuser> PPower: Nothing happens. Do I have to type something before "g"?
[07:01] <PPower> ircleuser: One mo, let me test
[07:01] <fredl> anybody here had fglrx driver for ATI card running with hardware 3D support but no longer after today?
[07:01] <Goshawk> linux__alien: click on apply
[07:01] <linux__alien> Goshawk, Initially it works when i connect to the net but after sometime it does not
[07:02] <mats> ircleuser: lynx is not in the basic-setup for ubuntu
[07:02] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, when does it show what? please explain again how to show the version
[07:02] <Goshawk> linux__alien: uhm...
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:02] <TooTallJones> fredl  I had that problem
[07:02] <TooTallJones> I have that problem, not from today but a few days ago
[07:02] <FirstStrike> hey guys..my x server is refusing to start. it's saying something about "no screens found"
[07:02] <Goshawk> linux__alien: do ping www.google.com in a shell and paste me ouput (private please)
[07:02] <PPower> ircleuser: When you press g it should say URL to open:
[07:02] <linux__alien> Goshawk, when i do traceroute6 www.google.com
[07:02] <linux__alien> traceroute: unknown host www.google.com
[07:02] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: Xbug
[07:02] <fredl> TooTallJones, ok, did it ever work before?
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> FirstStrike, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:02] <PPower> ircleuser: Are you sure you are using lynx and not LINKS
[07:03] <TooTallJones> Yeah it did, then suddenly it was no longer working
[07:03] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: :D you man!
[07:03] <jpjacobs> Firestrike, sounds like a misconfigured xorg.conf to me...
[07:03] <TooTallJones> still trying to get a fix on it
[07:03] <linux__alien> but xchat is working , gaim is working and infact synaptic is also working
[07:03] <lipe1> My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. Ideas?
[07:03] <TooTallJones> nothing seems to do it =(
[07:03] <buntu418> ali1234: where to find keyboard preset
[07:03] <alek> how to mount smbfs with write perm? mounted folder has chmod 755 so only root can write in it:(
[07:03] <fredl> TooTallJones, can you grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me if it shows [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" in there?
[07:03] <TooTallJones> yeah
[07:03] <linux__alien> Goshawk, any ideas?
[07:04] <fredl> TooTallJones, does it show that?
[07:04] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, uhm... doesn't show anything about a version
[07:04] <Goshawk> linux__alien: open a shell and type: firefox
[07:04] <ali1234> buntu418: you see the green box, numeric keypad, and up/down buttons?
[07:04] <ali1234> on the right, just above the keys
[07:04] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, shows here
[07:04] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, you know, I think there's somehting wrong with my xorg.conf file
[07:04] <TooTallJones> open failed
[07:04] <TooTallJones> fredl
[07:04] <looktj> Can i help people fix x?
[07:05] <Goshawk> looktj: how is it going?
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, and until you tell me what version of X you have, I'm not going futher.
[07:05] <ali1234> buntu418: click the "V" button until it says "PRG:99" on the green box
[07:05] <Goshawk> looktj: did you fixed yours?
[07:05] <ali1234> the click a key on the keyboard
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, I gave you the command, what was the last line of output?
[07:05] <fredl> TooTallJones, do you have the package linux-restricted-modules installed?
[07:05] <cfedde> is there a lib32 version of libgdbm available?
[07:05] <TooTallJones> I do
[07:05] <buntu418> ali1234: doesnt help./...:(
[07:06] <looktj> i did Ctrl+alt+f1, logined, then did "sudo aptitude update" then sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:06] <NettezzaUrbana> MyProblem: Unable to retreive modem... any suggestion?
[07:06] <TooTallJones> I upgraded them last night from -23 to -26 to see if that did it, but nope
[07:06] <ProN00b> Supremacy, there was a known bad update, it has been fixed with another update, but your mirror might not yet have that, so just update and upgrade, and maybe change the update mirror
[07:06] <looktj> then sudo reboot
[07:06] <ali1234> buntu418: then you have some audio problem
[07:06] <Ash-Fox> looktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:06] <Goshawk> looktj: it was wrong
[07:06] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, I typed Xorg -version and it showed X window system version 7.0.0
[07:06] <looktj> thanks
[07:06] <fredl> TooTallJones, weird. It worked for me yesterday so I blamed it exclusively on today's xserver-xorg mess-up
[07:06] <ompaul> looktj, why the reboo, just reastart X logout not reboot and log in
[07:07] <Goshawk> Supremacy: package version is not program version
[07:07] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, please give me the output of dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:07] <TooTallJones> hm
[07:07] <ProN00b> Supremacy, do what Ash-Fox told looktj
[07:07] <buntu418> ali1234: my media players and everything works fine :(
[07:07] <TooTallJones> I never had problems untill I downloaded compiz and Xgl
[07:07] <rhyddin> hey, whats with the xserver update today? whats new with it? is there a page i can read the changelog at?
[07:07] <lipe1> My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. I even reinstalled gnome-control-center
[07:07] <TooTallJones> but I removed them and no changes
[07:07] <ompaul> driveler|sleep, please do not change your nick - use /away sleeping - it is silent
[07:07] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, I believe Supremacy has two problems actually
[07:07] <looktj> ompaul: im a newb lol
[07:07] <ali1234> buntu418: mine too
[07:07] <NettezzaUrbana> ppp doesn't retreive modem... any suggestion?
[07:08] <ompaul> looktj, now you know - you don't need to laugh out loud :-)
[07:08] <Ash-Fox> !ppp
[07:08] <ubotu> ppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4b1-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 314 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[07:08] <ali1234> buntu418: the only other thing to try is qsynth, but i don't know how to make a sound from that. it will however, log your midi events to the screen
[07:08] <PPower> To people having trouble with X: I believe a new version has hit the repos, (10.4). Can someone test this for us?
[07:08] <driveler|sleep> ompaul, thanks
[07:08] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you still here?
[07:08] <fredl> PPower - I have the new version with apt-get
[07:08] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, how about: X protocol version 11 ? because when typing dpkg -1 xserver-xorg it doesn't show anything
[07:08] <Ash-Fox> !softmodem
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <PPower> fredl: The 10.4?
[07:08] <fredl> PPower - yes I believe so, lemme check
[07:08] <Stuttergart> am I crazy or do the FDS docs not have any information about what information you need to login to the console?
[07:09] <buntu418> ali1234: thanks.. will try tht... do u know how to check whether this keyboard has been detected by ubuntu properly
[07:09] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, that tells me the x protocol version, not the package version.
[07:09] <PPower> fredl: If it is, does it work
[07:09] <fredl> 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 works.
[07:09] <ali1234> buntu418: aconnect -i
[07:09] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ?
[07:09] <fredl> PPower - but there appears to be another problem with it.
[07:09] <Stuttergart> cn="Directory  Manager"/<password>/<URL>
[07:09] <PPower> what
[07:09] <NettezzaUrbana> it's a bluetooth modem... however thanks for helping me
[07:09] <Stuttergart> but what is the correct URL?
[07:10] <fredl> PPower, for some reason X logs that it cannot load the fglrx kernel module.
[07:10] <Stuttergart> http://<servername>:2405?
[07:10] <rhyddin> alright, wtf? i installed the new update and now my xserver wont start.
[07:10] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, ok, downloading xorg-core
[07:10] <Goshawk> looktj: log from you pc and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 to fix X
[07:10] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, er, it must be xserver-xorg-core
[07:10] <PPower> fredl: Ok, but it should be alright for all non fglrx users
[07:10] <alek> how to get write perm in samba mounted folder? parameter "rw" doesnt work:(
[07:10] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, sorry, meant that
[07:10] <fredl> PPower, from Xorg.0.log: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[07:10] <PPower> fredl: Shall I tell everyone
[07:10] <rhyddin> yeah, its xserver-xorg-core
[07:10] <harisund> Ppower you mean the latest update doesn't work for users with flgrx module loaded?
[07:11] <PPower> Yes, it works for everyone else
[07:11] <rhyddin> i dont use the fglrx
[07:11] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, ok, it's installed
[07:11] <Ash-Fox> fredl, 'lspci |grep -i ati' ?
[07:11] <fredl> PPower - who's 'everyone'? :) The 10.4 may not be available in all repos I think.
[07:11] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, shall I try to reboot?
[07:11] <PPower> fredl: It is in the UK one
[07:11] <phreakys> hey
[07:11] <rhyddin> i have an ati 7500 - the fglrx module doesnt work on it
[07:11] <rhyddin> but the new update definately screwed up X
[07:11] <harisund> PPower: hmmm.. I haven't updated yet. rhyddin what else would you suggest I use for the ATi Radeon Xpress 200M card? Only that provides me with 3D?
[07:11] <PPower> rhyddin: Bug in 10.4
[07:11] <PPower> harisund: Dont update
[07:11] <fredl> Ash-Fox, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)] 
[07:11] <SKossu> im a total newb, but why dont terminal recognize the command make? :S
[07:11] <harisund> Ppower right. I am not updating yet :)
[07:11] <jbroome> i believe the bug is in 10.3
[07:12] <PPower> harisund: Excellent
[07:12] <jbroome> 10.4 is the fix
[07:12] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, and after startx (not as root)
[07:12] <harisund> Skossu you will have to install it. execute 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:12] <lamego> SKossu, because you need to install the package build-essential
[07:12] <Goshawk> SKossu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:12] <SKossu> ah, thanks
[07:12] <Larsson-Sweden> Im experiencing slow file transfers in amsn 0.97b ! Any ideas?
[07:12] <cica> hi guys
[07:12] <harisund> Wow! That was 3 quick replies for SKossu one after the other :
[07:12] <rhyddin> I was just using the radeon driver and had acceleration .. dont know whats up with it now
[07:12] <PPower> >>> If you are NOT using fglrx driver, _please run apt-get update, and then install the latest X server (check first that it is 10.4) <<<
[07:12] <ali1234> 0.
[07:13] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, how do I "logout" from root?
[07:13] <Lane> If an IDE hardware RAID is set up properly will Linux see it as a single disk
[07:13] <fredl> where's that xserver-xorg-core builder hiding anyway? :)
[07:13] <Chu> Okay, I just recently got breezy on this machine, and now I see dapper. Is there a decent way to upgrade WITHOUT burning the iso?
[07:13] <Goshawk> harisund: :D
[07:13] <cica> can anyone please advise on how to install downloaded sound tar balls?
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, 'exit'
[07:13] <cica> i.e. for system sounds
[07:13] <PPower> Chu: Mount as a loop, 1 mo
[07:13] <nikin> how can i enable universe and multiverse repos in console?
[07:13] <fredl> cica - untar them using tar xvf <filename>
[07:13] <buntu418> ali1234: \thanks.. i think i hav to try and figure out.. gnight
[07:13] <Chu> PPower: I'm sorry, I didn't get that... :p
[07:13] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, aaah it seems to work! Big thanks man!
[07:13] <phreakys> i removed the open apps from the gnome taskbar. how can i get it back? ;(
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, no problem :)
[07:13] <cica> fredl: then were are the placed?
[07:13] <PPower> chu: See http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper on How to mount/unmount Image (ISO) files without burning
[07:13] <lamego> nikin, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <Goshawk> nikin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <Chu> Ah, thanks!
[07:14] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, people like you should get a reward or something :)
[07:14] <harisund> Ppower does it mean there will eventually be a fix for fglrx users? (hopefully :) )
[07:14] <fredl> nikin - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:14] <rummik> does ubuntu delete the packages it downloaded?
[07:14] <rhyddin> Ok, how do I just roll back to the previous xorg core version?
[07:14] <Goshawk> rummik: no
[07:14] <harisund> rummik not unless you ask it to
[07:14] <fredl> cica - usually in your current working directory otherwise in /
[07:14] <PPower> rhyddin: read the title of the channel, and see the bug report, read that
[07:14] <jbroome> rummik: /var/cache/apt/
[07:14] <harisund> rummik: the packages are in /var/cache/apt .....
[07:14] <Ash-Fox> fredl, your card doesn't work with the ati proprietory drivers, and should have 3d acceleration out of the box with the default ones
[07:14] <Goshawk> rummik: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:14] <harisund> rummik: you can delete is using apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[07:15] <rummik> ok, thanks guys
[07:15] <phreakys> my apps dont show up anymore in the taskbar :S
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, if you remove fglrx, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, you should have 3d acceleration after restarting x
[07:15] <rhyddin> thanks
[07:15] <fredl> Ash-Fox, lemme try
[07:15] <phreakys> gnome panel that is
[07:15] <fredl> Ash-Fox, should I also remove the linux-restricted-modules package?
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, By the way, to test if you have hardware acceleration: glxinfo |grep direct
[07:15] <Maen> please someone help me configure pptp :(
[07:15] <rhyddin> is 'no devices deteced' same as 'no screens found'?
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you can leave that there.
[07:15] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with compiling issues? I have posted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409662
[07:15] <PPower> And please update your X server (update apt first) once you remove fglrx, but check if your mirror is using X 10.4
[07:16] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:16] <cica> fredl: and the system will just pick them up??! (when I say system sounds I mean like start up sound, click sound etc etc) I know when installing icon themes it's done through system -> preferences -> themes. know whatta mean???
[07:16] <nikin> ty :D
[07:16] <fredl> PPower, I already have 10.4, just told you that :P
[07:16] <Chu> PPower: Replace file.iso with the path the the actual thing, I assume? :x
[07:16] <PPower> Ash-Fox: I believe the title needs to be changed
[07:16] <PPower> Chu: Never ;)
[07:16] <cica> fredl: therefore I though it'd be done in a similar way when installing systems sounds
[07:16] <PPower> fredl: i wasnt tarrgiting you
[07:17] <lipe1> where can I manually set my keyobard layout to gnome?
[07:17] <fredl> Ash-Fox, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:17] <Wanderer> blah, back packages from cipherfunk
[07:17] <fredl> Ash-Fox, it says to install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:17] <Wanderer> well, lack of packages
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> fredl, please do what I say
[07:18] <lipe1> anyone?
[07:18] <fredl> Ash-Fox, dpkg --purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:18] <Goshawk> lipe1: system-->preferences-->keyboard
[07:18] <jpjacobs> lipe1 System>Preferences>keyboard
[07:19] <jpjacobs> darn...to late :p
[07:19] <lipe1> Goshawk: it is crashing, thats why I need to make manualy
[07:19] <Goshawk> jpjacobs: hehehhe
[07:19] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you should of had hardware acceleration when you first installed ubuntu with your particular graphic card.
[07:19] <fredl> okaaay... I'll give it a try...
[07:19] <Goshawk> lipe1: does it report an error?
[07:19] <rummik> pcsx doesn't work..."/usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found"
[07:19] <lipe1> Goshawk: only trhat it terminated unexpected, only when I want to add an layout
[07:19] <cica> anyone know where systems sound packages should be installed _Please_ :-)
[07:20] <fredl> ok, I removed that and dpkg-reconfigured....
[07:20] <fredl> lemme restart X
[07:20] <fredl> brb
[07:20] <looktj> fredl: put your rate at 24.5/s -.-
[07:20] <fredl> rate??
[07:20] <Goshawk> lipe1: do this in a shell: gnome-keyboard-properties
[07:20] <looktj> nvm
[07:20] <lipe1> it crashes after adding a layut
[07:20] <Ash-Fox> What are you talking about looktj?
[07:20] <Goshawk> cica: what do you mean for system sound package?
[07:21] <PPower> Bye again!
[07:21] <looktj> thought his repeat rate was fast
[07:21] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: So whats the deal with this? Is it going to be fixed, or do I have to just ignore that it wants to update?
[07:21] <Goshawk> lipe1: gnome-keyboard-properties ---> try to change the layout, when it crashes it reports an erro in the shell, paste it here
[07:21] <looktj> keyboard
[07:21] <lipe1> Goshawk: ** (gnome-keyboard-properties:5503): WARNING **: key HZTG: keycode = 4294967295; not in range 8..255
[07:21] <ChickenBrain> hi, i have problems to install java-package in dapper
[07:21] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, it's already been fixed, it's just a question of when yourm irror gets 10.4
[07:21] <ChickenBrain> actually the package isn't there
[07:21] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: I'm not complaining, this is the first glitch I've had with Ubuntu, but I'm curious what happened.
[07:22] <looktj> rhyddin: login on text mode
[07:22] <sethk> rhyddin, it will be fixed I'm sure within a day
[07:22] <Goshawk> lipe1: maybe it's a wrong layout, it says that it can read a keycode (or better, it seems wrong)
[07:22] <cica> Goshawk: like icon packages or GDM themes. I've found one on gnome-look.org that I'd like to install
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, well, a security update messed up things in xorg, and as such they rolled back to the older version, under a new version number, 10.4
[07:23] <cica> Goshawk: do you know what I'm talking about?
[07:23] <lipe1> Goshawk: Right now it is US, im trying to put BR
[07:23] <rhyddin> Ok, thats cool.
[07:23] <eugman> So how hard would it be to have a rollback feature in grub like many have suggested?
[07:23] <cica> Goshawk: these http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=25&PHPSESSID=ce5967533131309ed7deb8ba7b53f831
[07:23] <Goshawk> cica: no, i never did it, but i understood, i'm looking in google, you can do too
[07:24] <rhyddin> Rollback would be neat, but in this kind of situation you'd still have to do it from the cl so there isn't much point. Its just as easy to downgrade using apt
[07:24] <cica> Goshawk: I will do. But previous attempts produced nothing :-( But I'll try again
[07:24] <Goshawk> cica: are tehy sounds or icons(theme)?
[07:25] <Goshawk> cica: system---->preferencies--->theme for themes
[07:25] <phreakys> bah
[07:25] <phreakys> dont know how to put apps back on the gnome panel :S
[07:25] <bilss_> hope to start firefox from command line but with root access
[07:25] <FirstStrike> well, that was fun
[07:25] <cica> Goshawk: sounds. I've got the themes working
[07:26] <cica> Goshawk: it's the sounds part I'm stuck at :-(
[07:26] <FirstStrike> i'm going to smack whoever said it was a misconfigured x server
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: unpackem in a directory
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: unpack them
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: and go to system---->preferencies--->sound
[07:26] <idefix> what vfstype does a DVDrom have?
[07:26] <cica> Goshawk: right
[07:27] <sethk> FirstStrike, wasn't me.  you got hit by the bad update?
[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: there are the events
[07:27] <crparr> Hi! I have got a root server with ssh access. I have done apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. But how can I verify, that the dist upgrade has worked???
[07:27] <rhyddin> idefix : just try using -o loop if u r trying to mount it
[07:27] <axisme> do a cat /proc/version
[07:27] <axisme> what does it say
[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: for each event you can play a sound, there is "select sound file"
[07:27] <cica> Goshawk: and just apply sound to an event
[07:27] <axisme> sorry that was for crparr
[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: you are right :D
[07:27] <cica> Goshawk: nice one!!! :-D
[07:28] <cntb> !grub
[07:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:28] <cica> Goshawk: appreciate the help mate :-D
[07:28] <FirstStrike> sethk: yea
[07:28] <lipe1> Goshawk: isnt there a way to manually edit the keyboard conf to gnome?
[07:28] <Goshawk> cica: i'm here to help :D
[07:28] <cntb> where is the grub menu file ?
[07:28] <Goshawk> lipe1: uhm.. wait
[07:28] <Ash-Fox> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:28] <cica> Goshwak: thanks again :)
[07:29] <ChickenBrain> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk <-- anything wrong with mutliverse?
[07:29] <avis> does anyone know if the developers have fixed the problem or not ?
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> No.
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> avis, what problem?
[07:29] <ProN00b> why is linux so bad at detecting keyboard layouts ?
[07:29] <avis> with xserver ?
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> avis, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:29] <FirstStrike> ProN00b: lack of support from the manufacturers
[07:29] <Ash-Fox> So in a word, yes. The problem has been fixed.
[07:30] <avis> ok thank you
[07:30] <rhyddin> avis: apparently its fixed, we're just waiting for it to migrate to the mirrors
[07:30] <ProN00b> FirstStrike, couldn't it do it like windows and just use the windows keyboard standart, i mean everyone supports that
[07:30] <cello_rasp> could anyone give me the output of           ls -all ~/.vnc/xstartup   ?
[07:30] <pianoboy3333> I have a bit of a weird compiling issue with gaim, and banshee, and many other applications involving libxrender (I think) checkout my post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409662 any help would be appreciated
[07:30] <FirstStrike> ...
[07:30] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: And how do u do that?
[07:31] <ex_> has anyone got aac stuff playing with gstreamer?
[07:31] <ProN00b> FirstStrike, or at least mark the keyboard driver that windows would use... ?
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, what's weird?  It's just a missing library
[07:31] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, well, I test a update on one computer, if it works fine, I stick it on the lan's repository, and get the updates shiped out to the other computers.
[07:31] <pianoboy3333> sethk: ok, what package should I install?
[07:31] <connyosis> is there a text mode xorg configurator for ubuntu? My X died and refuses to work for some reason
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, checking
[07:31] <pianoboy3333> kk
[07:31] <FirstStrike> yea. and while we're at it we should just copy all of windows drivers over to linux, right ProN00b? Cause that would be like totally smart.
[07:31] <sethk> pianoboy3333, try libxrender-dev
[07:31] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: In this case wasnt the bug isolated to a particular subset of systems? How would u know for sure?
[07:32] <Goshawk> lipe1: sorry i don't know how to help you
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> sethk: It's installed
[07:32] <sethk> pianoboy3333, there is also libxrender1 and libxrender1-dbg
[07:32] <utab> I am using //10.33.175.17/pool    /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL smbfs  credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777  0    0 to mount a netwotk drive but I get
[07:32] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, most of the hardware getting the updates is very similar to the test computer.
[07:32] <pianoboy3333> sethk: they're all installed
[07:32] <sethk> pianoboy3333, oh, wait, sorry, libxrender-dev installs a conventional library, not a libtool library
[07:32] <lipe1> Goshawk: ty anyway, my xorg is ok, that is the most strange thing. I reinstalled everything from gnome
[07:32] <otroean> Got ATI x700 and Dapper but I can't get ATI drivers to work. Only VESA works. How can I get 16:9 resolution with VESA drivers?
[07:32] <tabman> I'm looking for help on bluetooth on Ubuntu, I've gone through a how to to setup a single cell phone with ubuntu, but I need help on connecting multiple clients
[07:33] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, I use the same update practices with windows :)
[07:33] <Goshawk> lipe1: what's your problem with the keyboard layout?
[07:33] <Goshawk> lipe1: is it wrong?
[07:33] <rummik> where do i find lndir?
[07:33] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Ah. I c. Well, I'm glad there are people around who are in the know and willing to help the community at large.
[07:33] <sethk> pianoboy3333, my guess is that there is something that produces the libtool library when you compile from source
[07:33] <lipe1> Goshawk:  YEs it is US and it should be bt
[07:33] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Like yourself.
[07:33] <pianoboy3333> sethk: which means?
[07:33] <utab> I get the error wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.33.175.17/pool,
[07:33] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, the issue was found before I even discovered it, so I didn't really help much other than on the channel :P
[07:33] <lipe1> Goshawk: I had a bug with the home key and tried to do defaults to clear it up, but now i cant change layout
[07:33] <rummik> i searched for 'lndir' in synaptic, but i don't get any results
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, what is your xserver version?
[07:34] <Goshawk> lipe1: during sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you select the keyboard layout. but use that command carefully, you can break X
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core ?
[07:34] <lipe1> Goshawk: ty
[07:34] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: Well, every little bit helps, you know? Most of these guys have switched from Windows and wouldn't know a cl from a hole in the wall.
[07:34] <donrarib> hi everyone
[07:34] <otroean> Ash-Fox:  I'm new with Linux. How can i find the version?
[07:34] <jamwbuttr> hello , im new to the ubuntu , but i have a problem with installing the ubuntu lts to my desktop. It freezes at the login screen. keyboard and mouse doesnt work.  Any ideas on how to fix.
[07:34] <utab> Help needed to mount samba drives
[07:34] <donrarib> i have a question
[07:34] <sethk> rummik, doesn't appear in a package.  I see the man page for lndir, for it and ja, but nothing else
[07:34] <Ash-Fox> otroean, open a terminal/type into a console: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:35] <donrarib> the linux is good for development
[07:35] <donrarib> ??
[07:35] <pianoboy3333> sethk: so what do I do?
[07:35] <Ash-Fox> donrarib, linux is a kernel.
[07:36] <Goshawk> donrarib: Gnu/linux ubuntu is good enaught
[07:36] <sethk> pianoboy3333, I'm not sure, let me see if I can find anything relevant
[07:36] <Goshawk> enought
[07:36] <rummik> sethk: i think i'll do some google and see if i can get that working...looks like i could just use ln to do the same function
[07:36] <otroean> Ash-Fox: xserver-xorg-c 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 X.Org X server
[07:36] <donrarib> yes
[07:36] <pianoboy3333> sethk: is libtool a library?
[07:36] <rhyddin> omg, dont start the linux vss gnu/linux thing
[07:36] <donrarib> but my object is work with delphi
[07:36] <donrarib> in case, of kilux
[07:36] <Ash-Fox> otroean, alrighty, would you mind telling me what you've tried/done so far?
[07:36] <donrarib> its satisfact?
[07:36] <sethk> pianoboy3333, no, libtool is, as you might guess, a library management tool
[07:37] <rhyddin> donrarib: I use Delphi under windows and Kylix on Linux .. are you having a problem with it?
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> sethk: ok....
[07:37] <Goshawk> otroean:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:37] <utab> coudl you please help me to mount samba drives
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, the missing file is just a text file which contains info about the library
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> ah, ok
[07:37] <donrarib> rhyddin, yes
[07:37] <Goshawk> utab: sorry i don't know
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, you could install the libtool and libtool-doc packages
[07:37] <donrarib> a week ago im testing the kilux
[07:37] <KenSentMe> !samba > utab
[07:37] <pianoboy3333> ok
[07:37] <sethk> pianoboy3333, I'd have to check the docs, though, to see if that really gets you anywhere
[07:38] <kyja> anybody have trouble with 10.4?
[07:38] <pianoboy3333> sethk: well, I have libtool, I'm installing libtool-doc..... I wonder if that'll help....
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> kyja, no.
[07:38] <donrarib> but its a decepcinf
[07:38] <pianoboy3333> sethk: doubt it
[07:38] <kyja> thx Ash-Fox
[07:38] <donrarib> not good
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> kyja, it's the old version repackaged under a new version.
[07:38] <otroean> Ash-Fox: Tried all res with ati driver.
[07:38] <sethk> pianoboy3333, well, it will keep you busy for a few minutes, anyway  :)
[07:38] <kyja> hehe
[07:38] <rhyddin> donrarib: Can u be more specifc?
[07:38] <Ash-Fox> otroean, which ati driver? proprietory?
[07:39] <Goshawk> donrarib: on ubuntu you can play with better languages like C, C++ python, ruby and so on
[07:39] <pianoboy3333> sethk: nope, didin't work
[07:39] <otroean> Ash-Fox: The one with the Ubuntu CD
[07:39] <Johan_vd> after an update I am unable to open xserver xlog said no screen found :-((
[07:39] <rhyddin> Goshawk: He is using Delphi under windows, most likely he wants a similar environ to work with.
[07:39] <donrarib> yes
[07:39] <Johan_vd> but it is in config
[07:39] <Goshawk> Johan_vd:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:39] <sethk> pianoboy3333, it isn't supposed to work.  you are supposed to look at the man pages for ideas
[07:39] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: i was faster :D
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> otroean, this maybe of use to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:40] <pianoboy3333> sethk: oh, heh
[07:40] <utab> KentMe: I have done exactly the same thing but got error
[07:40] <knapper> Hello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?
[07:40] <jamwbuttr> check out the forum on the new update problem on the x ----- they have a fix there
[07:40] <fredl> Ash-Fox, no luck without the fglrx driver
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, yeah, my attention was diverted to helping someone else :P
[07:40] <otroean> Ash-Fox: thnx.
[07:40] <donrarib> im on test with kilux, but its complicated
[07:40] <Goshawk> rhyddin: ah sorry, he writes in multiple lines and i didn't read that part
[07:40] <donrarib> i install it
[07:40] <Ash-Fox> fredl, can you try following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[07:40] <fredl> Ash-Fox, the standard ATI driver doesn't detect my card.
[07:40] <Goshawk> kilux?
[07:41] <donrarib> and when i will start, show this message
[07:41] <eric_o> Anyone could help me to get my tv-out to work
[07:41] <donrarib> /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /home/donrarib/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[07:41] <Rookie-> !tvout
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <rhyddin> Goshawk: Its actually Kylix - borlands cross-platform environ that uses obj pascal
[07:41] <fredl> Ash-Fox, ok. Site seems to be real slow though.
[07:41] <Rookie-> !tv
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <sethk> rhyddin, eclipse has some similar features.  the gui builder sun distributes with the sdk is also worth a look
[07:41] <gafita> ola
[07:41] <donrarib> are u know this problem?
[07:42] <Goshawk> rhyddin: :D ah it's not my stuff
[07:42] <sethk> donrarib, wrong glib version
[07:42] <donrarib> buts the problem is not this
[07:42] <Johan_vd> wrote it down I hate to be here in windows :P
[07:42] <Johan_vd> thanks
[07:42] <gafita> hello
[07:42] <jamwbuttr> >:o  helolo    i need help on new install ----  log in freezes  every time.  Right after sound goes off.  I tried to ctrl alt f1 and it still did it  when it hit the command prompt.   What could the problem bee????????
[07:43] <fredl> Ash-Fox, ah that's pretty much the same as is on ubuntuguide
[07:43] <rhyddin> donrarib: when are you getting the error?
[07:43] <donrarib> the project kylix is until in use?
[07:43] <donrarib> in the start
[07:43] <eric_o> !tvout
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <rhyddin> donrarib: did you install the key that borland sent you?
[07:43] <eric_o> !nvtv
[07:43] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:44] <donrarib> its a text data
[07:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, there is additional troubleshooting tricks there I believe though.
[07:44] <lipe1> Goshawk: the problem was that I had to choose a generic keyboard instead of abnt2 first. After I choose generic keyboard, i  could change the layout. TY
[07:44] <fredl> Ash-Fox, for me the 'ati' driver does not work. The fglrx driver used to work but fglrxinfo shows Mesa.
[07:44] <donrarib> how i install it?
[07:44] <Goshawk> lipe1: good to know
[07:44] <Rookie-> eric_o - just make sure you have "universe" enable in your source.list
[07:44] <gafita> hello
[07:44] <Goshawk> lipe1: so now is fixed, isn't it?
[07:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, fglxinfo should say "Direct Rendering: Yes", for hardware acceleration.
[07:45] <sethk> gafita, ask a question to get a response
[07:45] <lipe1> Goshawk: My last problem is prolly a non solution one. Everytime I press control +shift + f or control + shift + e the result is this:  . The problem is that even in Eclipse where they are shortcuts, those characters appear
[07:45] <cntb> ubuntu alternate CD didnot finish well install adn now iam stuck with grub prompt
[07:45] <donrarib> but rhyddin, i like to know if this language is a good for linux
[07:45] <rhyddin> donrarib: Just copy it into the Kylix dir. Then start the application.
[07:45] <donrarib> ?
[07:46] <Botje> in the installer: how do you give extra kernel parameters?
[07:46] <jamwbuttr> at least you got  the grub prompt
[07:46] <Botje> simply typing in "noapic noacpi" doesn't quite work
[07:46] <Goshawk> lipe1: i get them too
[07:46] <rhyddin> donrarib: Well, like a couple other people said, there are better languages for linux.
[07:46] <Goshawk> lipe1: ctrl+shift+f = 
[07:46] <lipe1> Goshawk: yeah but they are no where to be configured or something loike that
[07:46] <elmargol> hi all
[07:47] <elmargol> How can I make those folder icons on evolution smaller?
[07:47] <donrarib> a person question, rhydin...
[07:47] <jamwbuttr> hi dont know
[07:47] <donrarib> you use a kilux?
[07:47] <Goshawk> hi again orbish
[07:47] <orbish> how can i reinstall gtk?
[07:47] <vader> Good day folks, I have 2 pc's one with ubuntu and one with Kubuntu..... same  problem, x is dead, says it cannot find the screen
[07:47] <orbish> i'm going nuts
[07:47] <donrarib> its a good application?
[07:48] <rhyddin> donrarib: I only use Kylix if I have to - if I'm porting a proprietary application. For general development I use C on Linux.
[07:48] <lipe1> k guys ty for the help, i will post that problem goshawk. [] s
[07:48] <donrarib> my fear is the kilux is not a good application...
[07:48] <sethk> vader, see channel topic for ix
[07:48] <sethk> vader, s/ix/fix/
[07:48] <donrarib> because i will work with delphi on the office and the scool
[07:49] <Goshawk> vader:  you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:49] <tom__> bonjour tout le monde, il y a des francais ici ?
[07:49] <rhyddin> donrarib: Try going to Applications/Add-Remove and getting all the stuff for kdevelop - its a pretty good starter suite for development.
[07:49] <Ash-Fox> donrarib, it's called kylix, not kilux.
[07:49] <c0nfidencal> Hey! Just installed Ubuntu ^^! I have 2 HDD's. 250 & 300 GB! I 248 GB as primary ext3 (Where Ubuntu is installed!), 2 GB for swap, 300 GB as primary ext3 storage. Did i do wrong? Or right... Maybe I needed reiserfs, or??? :)
[07:49] <Goshawk> !french > Goshawk
[07:49] <Goshawk> !french > tom__
[07:49] <tom__> oui
[07:49] <donrarib> yes
[07:49] <orbish> how can i reinstall GTK
[07:50] <donrarib> a moment
[07:50] <Goshawk> tom__: read ubotu
[07:50] <tom__> francais Goshawk ?
[07:50] <Goshawk> tom__: no, italian
[07:50] <tom__> ok
[07:50] <c0nfidencal> Anyone? >_<
[07:50] <tom__> ha thanks
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: libgtk2 i think
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: let me see
[07:50] <tom__> thanks Goshawk
[07:50] <orbish> that's not working for me
[07:50] <Ash-Fox> I would reccommend using reiserfs over ext3
[07:50] <Goshawk> orbish: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> Ash-Fox, for both?
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> Or?
[07:51] <orbish> thanks a lot dude
[07:51] <Goshawk> tom__: you are welcome
[07:51] <Ash-Fox> c0nfidencal, reiserfs is a lot faster than ext3.
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> O_O
[07:51] <Goshawk> orbish: next time: apt-cache search pattern
[07:51] <c0nfidencal> For both then?
[07:51] <sethk> c0nfidencal, reiserfs is not, in fact, faster in any realistic configuration
[07:51] <sethk> c0nfidencal, plus, reiserfs is full of bugs.  stay away from it.
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> O_O
[07:52] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: reiserfs can have fragmentation problem, but i'm using it :D
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> So it's aight that I installed both @ ext3?
[07:52] <rhyddin> reiser is hella fast though
[07:52] <sethk> c0nfidencal, yes
[07:52] <Ash-Fox> sethk, I've been using it for years.
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:52] <kyja> I dont understand why I cant play midi
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> thx
[07:52] <sethk> rhyddin, no, not in realistic situations, it isn't
[07:52] <Goshawk> c0nfidencal: there are many thoughts about reiserfs
[07:52] <Ash-Fox> sethk, if there were noticable bugs, I would of had them already. Especially with all the powercuts and such that I Have.
[07:52] <elmargol> I'm using reiser for mails only
[07:52] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:52] <sethk> Ash-Fox, there are always people who say that.  then there are people like me, who have seen the problems and have also actually tested the performance rather than just reading claims
[07:53] <c0nfidencal> 99% [Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org]  <- Works for anyone?
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, do a web search, you'll find gobs of evidence about the bugs
[07:53] <c0nfidencal> I tried to install VLC but it stopped @ 99% cuz of that >_<
[07:53] <rhyddin> i ran reiser on slackware for a couple years while it was still beta .. amazingly stable at the time. using ext3 now, but i cant think of anything bad that came from resier.
[07:53] <Ash-Fox> sethk, admittedly I never ran my own benchmarks, but I have read others and my system is certainly faster than when it was under ex3.
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, your idea, that you would have seen bugs if they exist, is simply not true
[07:53] <Goshawk> sethk: both of them have their own problems and features
[07:53] <sethk> Ash-Fox, run them yourself, you'll find it isn't true
[07:53] <sethk> Goshawk, with the reiserfs problems, you lose entire file systems.  the two are not comparable
[07:53] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[07:54] <kung> hi there, since the last update my x-server won't start...is there any way to undo the last update (using synaptic i.e.)
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> sethk, Results 1 - 20 of about 1,020,000 for ext3 bug. Results 1 - 20 of about 142 for reisferfs bug.
[07:54] <rhyddin> Anyone else get the impression that sethk is a troll?
[07:54] <lamego> kung, read the topic please
[07:54] <sethk> kung, see channel topic for fix
[07:54] <snoops> my fingers are crossed for reiser4.. I can't wait for it to mature so I can use it.. bouncing trees.. yippee
[07:54] <sethk> rhyddin, I have been on this channel for months.  I'm hardly a troll
[07:54] <Goshawk> sethk: i used it from 2 years, no problems, with ext3 i have to wait many minutest for fsck every 30 times that i reboot
[07:54] <oyvind> kung: Download this package and install it with "dpkg -i ..": http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[07:54] <orbish> hmm that didn't help
[07:54] <kung> thx :))
[07:54] <sethk> Goshawk, no, you don't.  use tunefs to turn that feature off
[07:55] <Goshawk> rhyddin: sethkis not a troll, trolls speak in a diferent way
[07:55] <sethk> Goshawk, set the fsck interval to 0, which means never
[07:55] <orbish> gtk2 and glib errors out the wazoo in my .xsession-errors
[07:55] <cntb> where in etc is the machine name ?
[07:55] <orbish> i might need to reinstall gnome?
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> ping: unknown host packages.freecontrib.org <- It's just for me? :\
[07:55] <rhyddin> sethk: Just because u had issues with something doesnt mean its bad though. Reiser never gave me probs and I ran it for ages.
[07:55] <orbish> freecontrib has been down for me too
[07:55] <c0nfidencal> damn
[07:55] <snoops> I never had any issues with reiserfs when I used it either
[07:56] <sethk> rhyddin, it isn't just me.  I've helped many many people here who've had the problem.  at least three last week, if you go back and check the channel logs
[07:56] <Goshawk> rhyddin: he is not the first one that had problem with reiserfs
[07:56] <lamego> does anyone have a copy of easyubuntu :P ?
[07:56] <c0nfidencal> :p
[07:56] <gafita> alg habla SPANISH?
[07:56] <Crescendo> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:56] <sethk> snoops, that proves nothing.  the problems may be rare but they absolutely exist.  a web search will show you
[07:56] <lamego> gables, #ubuntu-es
[07:56] <rhyddin> ah well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
[07:56] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[07:56] <sethk> gafita, hablo un poco pero el -es es mejoy
[07:56] <sethk> mejor
[07:56] <Kuprin> Hey, ubuntu folks - I need to set up XMMS-Midi in Ubuntu, there's no APT package for it. Anyone good with MIDI setups here?
[07:56] <snoops> sethk it proves I had no problems with it...gosh, you don't need to be a jerk
[07:57] <orbish> goshawk any ideas? :(
[07:57] <Goshawk> rhyddin: no, i use reiserfs and i'll use it, but i know that it's not stable like ext3
[07:57] <gdb> Goshawk: you really should allow the forced check from time to time regardless.  In general, 30 reboots means a machine has been running for a very very long time.  However, if you reboot frequently (perhaps a laptop that you shutdown when moving to a new location) then setting that parameter not to 0, as other have suggested, but a much higher number, say, 300, would be more advisable.  Or just rememeber to do a forced check every now and then.
[07:57] <Minty> am going to install 64 versio as well as my 32bit version, do I just do a second install like I did for the 1rst one ??
[07:57] <Goshawk> orbish: about what?
[07:57] <gafita> ola goapa
[07:57] <sethk> Goshawk, that's rational
[07:57] <rhyddin> Goshawk: What factors make it unstable? Just out of curiosity.
[07:57] <janbanan> what is the latest fglrx-drivers 8.26.18?
[07:57] <Kuprin> janbanan, that sounds right
[07:58] <utab> I am getting some errors while trying to mount windows shares
[07:58] <Goshawk> rhyddin: after a while it loses his speed
[07:58] <orbish> goshawk: i'm getting gtk2 and glib errors in my .xsession-errors, i think i have to reinstall gnome, do you know the command, i'm trying apt-get install gnome and it's not working
[07:58] <Goshawk> rhyddin: look on google, there are fragmentation problems
[07:58] <orbish> i don't know where to find the correct package names basically
[07:58] <kyja> its not that big of a deal to let it check after every 30 restarts is it? or we talking about patiance on old slow machines?
[07:58] <Rookie-> !nvtv
[07:58] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:58] <rhyddin> Goshawk: Really, hrm .. that sucks. Yeah, I'll google it.
[07:59] <sethk> kyja, no, it isn't a big deal, but some folks prefer to decide for themselves when to do it
[07:59] <kyja> oh ok.
[07:59] <janbanan> I'm using fglrx 8.25.18. should I update to the latest. have a X700- series card
[07:59] <sethk> kyja, which you can do, by turning off the automatic one with tune2fs
[07:59] <c0nfidencal> Ey, wtf? xchat showing some red stripe... -> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9885/screenshotsj9.png
[07:59] <Goshawk> rhyddin: in fact i use reiserfs on my laptop (here) and for development machines, but on my server i run ext3
[07:59] <c0nfidencal> how to remove it >_<
[07:59] <kyja> ok =] 
[07:59] <utab> is there someone to help me mount windows shares
[07:59] <gdb> kyja: it could be if you're say, a student using a laptop at college and you end up shutting it down and restarting it, litterally, 5 or so times a day.  That forced check is killer when you walk into class and turn on your machine to take notes and you have to wait a long time for the check.
[07:59] <gafita> ai alguna chica espaola por aqui?
[07:59] <ircleuser> Was it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?
[07:59] <johan__> Hi am back in linux irc was asking about xserver which is not possible to start which file must I upgrade pls do me a new reply
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> utab: did you sort your keyboard?
[08:00] <javiolo> gafita > es
[08:00] <snoops> kyja personally I have tunefs set to check every month.. which is far more occasional than 30 restarts, but I feel it's a fairly good number
[08:00] <gdb> kyja: I still think, however, that the forced check does need to be allowed to continue at *some* kind of reasonable interval.
[08:00] <javiolo> !es
[08:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:00] <Elephant> Does anyone know anything about webmin?
[08:00] <Goshawk> gdb: thanks for your help... in my server i use ext3, in my laptop i like play with reiserfs3.6 and 4
[08:00] <Goshawk> :D
[08:00] <gdb> Goshawk: hehe
[08:00] <orbish> :/
[08:00] <utab> TheGateKeeper: I have installed from scratch
[08:00] <sethk> gafita, si, yo, pero las regulas dice solo inglais por aqui
[08:00] <kyja> your right gdb to yhink of it that way, I have fast laptop and is only 2 extra minutes but in sa class that would be a big deal
[08:00] <gdb> snoops: Yes, that's a good solution, a time based check, rather than a "per number of reboots" check.
[08:00] <Goshawk> gdb: and i'm waiting edgy + xen to enlarge the field of the game :D
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper : trying to mount windows shares
[08:01] <cntb> in grub how do I boot WINDOWS MANUALLY /dev/sda1
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have a good system now?
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, tjat
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper:yes,
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, that's true, it is easy to forget to do it, if you turn off automatic checking
[08:01] <Goshawk> orbish: install ubuntu-desktop
[08:01] <ircleuser> Was it one person who uploaded the buggy update? Will that person be "fired" from the developer team?
[08:01] <Elephant> cntb: My solution at home is that /dev/hda is windows, /dev/hdb is Ubuntu, and I use the boot menu from the BIOS to select which HD boots
[08:01] <gdb> kyja: To be clear, I'm not a student, but that's a scenario I could see happening. ;-)
[08:01] <rhyddin> LMAO
[08:01] <Chu> Hmm, I was upgrading to dapper through the update manager, but it failed while calculating the upgrade. What should I do? :p
[08:01] <sethk> gdb, but that doesn't mean that a file system that doesn't have a check after some limit feature at all is better
[08:01] <orbish> goshawk thanks a ton
[08:01] <utab> TheGateKeeper : have you had experience with windows shares
[08:02] <kyja> I think I have a good set up =]  how ever I cant get it to play midi. I dont have the best multi media selection set up yet I guess
[08:02] <Goshawk> orbish: it will install gnome
[08:02] <__boomer> the last systemupdate messed up libvte4, did anyone else experience the same problem
[08:02] <sethk> Elephant, that's fine, although it is easy to set up grub to boot either one
[08:02] <rhyddin> if everyone who caused a glitch got fired there would be no devs
[08:02] <markie_mark> anyone seen this happen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/20r0fi97.html
[08:02] <master0onxbox> ngon hr inne som kan hjlpa mig med skert ett simpelt problem men fr mig ett mysterium
[08:02] <sethk> rhyddin, that's quite true
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> utab: a little but you might want to back your system up first: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[08:02] <Goshawk> !de
[08:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:02] <Goshawk> no it's not his language
[08:02] <rhyddin> stuff happens. roll with it.
[08:02] <utab> TheGateKeeper : why this is a simple operation
[08:02] <master0onxbox> Om jag fr detta medelande hur tgrdar jag det? i Synaptic
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> utab: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Kllistan kunde inte lsas.
[08:03] <master0onxbox> G till frrdsdialogen fr att rtta till problemet.
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Typ "eb" r oknd p rad 25 i listan ver kllor /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <master0onxbox> E: Kunde inte att lsa listkatalogen
[08:03] <kyja> gdb: I agree, at first I thought ... did not bother me.. then I thought of the two other lapptops I have here, that have a fraction of the hard drive but would tyake half the day to run the check lol
[08:03] <Elephant> yeah...when i tried to put grub on hda, it errored out and killed my ability to boot that drive
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> !nl
[08:03] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:03] <gdb> sethk: It means that this theoretical laptop is being checked on the user's schedule, rather after some arbitrary number of reboots which, for a desktop, doesn't matter.  For a laptop, it can be a showstopper (for the aforementioned reasons).  I'd rather boot up my laptop in my dorm and wait 5 for a check before homework, than wait 5 in class while the prof is talking and I want to be taking notes, but can't, due to an fsck.
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> !se
[08:03] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:03] <Kuprin> Anyone for XMMS-midi? There's no package, but I KNOW XMMS can support MIDI files. I've seen it done in Gentoo and it's actually quite slick.
[08:03] <sethk> markie_mark, I see nothing wrong there
[08:03] <Elephant> nearly lost my win XP partition :(
[08:03] <utab> TheGateKeeper: followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:03] <sethk> gdb, Oh, I don't disagree
[08:04] <ircleuser> Rhyddin: I wasn't saying they should be fired. I was just curious.
[08:04] <master0onxbox> >>> ubotu.. TACK THX
[08:04] <sethk> gdb, that's why I told him to use tune2fs to remove the automatic one
[08:04] <markie_mark> sethk: the multiple tmpfs mounts on /var/lock and /var/run..
[08:04] <gdb> There really is no ideal solution because when you're rebooting a machine, you're having to interact with the system, which means your time is wasted regardless.
[08:04] <gdb> You just get to choose when that time is wasted. ;-)
[08:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper: the problem is that alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/files open the shared folder
[08:04] <sethk> markie_mark, oh, yes, that will happen.  you can do multiple mounts on a mount point.  the last one wins.
[08:04] <utab> TheGateKeeper, but I can not mount them permanently
[08:04] <sethk> markie_mark, but it's a bad idea as umount then doesn't really umount
[08:05] <tuxtux_> !kernel
[08:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:05] <gdb> sethk: Oh, you're responding to my suggestion of using a higher number.  I apologize for confusion, I went on to support a scheduled check after more discussion took place.
[08:05] <markie_mark> it's just strange I've never seen it do that by itself..
[08:05] <sethk> gdb, yes, I agree
[08:05] <markie_mark> okay - thanks for the feedback
[08:05] <sethk> markie_mark, it's easy to provoke.  do two loopback mounts in a row to the same directory
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have modified fstab?
[08:06] <utab> TheGateKeeper yes
[08:06] <Goshawk> orbish: how are things going
[08:06] <Goshawk> ?
[08:06] <NewUbuntuUser> Hello -- I just saw the link I needed
[08:06] <Goshawk> NewUbuntuUser: libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library
[08:06] <Goshawk> oops sorry
[08:06] <Goshawk> wrong paste
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> Anyone else having terrible locale problems with Dapper?
[08:07] <utab> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21418
[08:07] <Goshawk> NewUbuntuUser: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:07] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: yep
[08:07] <Stuttergart_> and so on
[08:07] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[08:07] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: do you upgraded to edgy?
[08:07] <brownie> is 10.4 the fixed one?
[08:07] <Goshawk> brownie: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:08] <Goshawk> brownie: yes
[08:08] <Stuttergart_> Goshawk: Have you been able to fix it?
[08:08] <brownie> ty
[08:08] <tuxtheslacker> I updated xorg or xserver or something along those lines with the automatic updated, and now X breaks after I restarte
[08:08] <Phoul> Hello is there a repo with pekwm in it
[08:08] <Goshawk> Stuttergart_: sure, are you using dapper or edgy? did you upgraded/downgraded from one tho the latter?
[08:08] <bXi> tuxtheslacker: read the topic
[08:08] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:08] <Stuttergart_> Goshawk: Fresh install of dapper.
[08:08] <knoppix> what is that X breaking thing? what happens, it drops to console or it just hangs?
[08:08] <Goshawk> ok... gimme version of locales and libc5
[08:08] <Goshawk> libc6
[08:09] <Goshawk> sorry
[08:09] <Goshawk> i'm chatting in the dark
[08:09] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[08:09] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[08:09] <utab> TheGateKeeper: zzzzzzzz ;)\
[08:09] <bXi> tuxtheslacker: you were given 2 answers just now
[08:09] <Goshawk> knoppix: X doesn't recignize your screen you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:09] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:10] <NamShub> heh
[08:10] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try without the credentials file just to get it started, once you have got it working move to using the file. What's with zzzzz?
[08:10] <tuxtheslacker> thanks Goshawk
[08:10] <Goshawk> tuxtheslacker: again... did you read  what i've said to you?
[08:10] <NamShub> I just wish I knew wether thats my problem or not :S
[08:10] <xarq> how do I make ubuntu automatically detect and connect to favorite wireless network routers?
[08:10] <nahoj> hi, I really need some help, how do i patch in ubuntu? i have downloaded a file named acer.patch but i dont know what to do with it
[08:10] <utab> TheGateKeeper : I tried that before but will try for you again
[08:11] <Goshawk> xarq: paly with network-manager
[08:11] <Goshawk> s/paly/play/
[08:11] <Goshawk> stupid dark
[08:11] <utab> TheGateKeeper: you mean to put the user and pass directly
[08:11] <Goshawk> the light button it too far :D
[08:11] <kyja> nahoj: that sounds kida suspitious
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> utab: correct no point using the file until you get this working
[08:11] <nahoj> kyja, how come?
[08:11] <kyja> nahoj: do you know specipicly what this does>
[08:12] <tarzan_> hi
[08:12] <tarzan_> my fresh installed kubuntu 6.06.1 runs dosfsck on every boot to check my fat32 partition..without finding errors (chkdsk unter win32 doesn't find errors either).. any reason for thie behaviour?
[08:12] <xarq> Goshawk: are you sure network manager has the functionality for favorites?
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you need to do things one step at a time, and debug so to speak as you go along
[08:12] <nahoj> kyja, it has to do with my soundcard... https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2104
[08:12] <sk1dge> can anyone help me get my audio working in ubuntu?  i just installed it last night, and no audio...
[08:12] <kyja> nahoj: well going by the old philosify of if it aint broke dont try to fix it I would hold off. especialy if you dont even know what the file is for
[08:12] <kyja> oh sound card
[08:12] <Goshawk> xarq: it's used to automatically connect with a wired cable or manage wireless connections, but it does not work with ndiswrapper
[08:13] <bluesign> hi, anyone know nat2nat vnc solution for WIN-Linux?
[08:13] <nahoj> kyja, i have no sound so i'm ready to try anything... :p
[08:13] <Goshawk> bluesign: vnc from windows<-->linux?
[08:13] <utab> TheGateKeeper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21419
[08:13] <ulisse> hello
[08:13] <KPhilosophy> sals
[08:13] <xarq> Goshawk: I don't think network manager has the functionality to connect to favorite wireless routers if it can see them
[08:13] <utab> TheGateKeeper errors
[08:13] <KPhilosophy> hello
[08:14] <bluesign> Goshawk: yes
[08:14] <kyja> nahoj: ic =]  have you tried searching for acer inside of the synaptic pachage manager?
[08:14] <ulisse> can someonoe point me to a good asound.conf for a SB Live!24 on Dapper?
[08:14] <KPhilosophy> ....
[08:14] <Goshawk> xarq: i think yes, see on google to eb sure
[08:14] <TheGateKeeper> utab: seen that one before, when I was trying to mount my hard disk on a live cd
[08:14] <kyja> wich reminds me. I cant still for some reason find a way to play midi. its that or all these carioki midi files suck =] 
[08:14] <tuxtheslacker> thanks guys!
[08:15] <sk1dge> is everyone here trying to get their audio working?
[08:15] <utab> TheGateKeeper :good news then or
[08:15] <nahoj> kyja, no results that matters...
[08:15] <bluesign> Goshawk: any idea?
[08:15] <tuxtheslacker> shit... now I have it using compiz... I really don't wanna use compiz hahahahha!
[08:15] <xevil> !topic
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <dimbles> Can anyone direct me to information about LVM in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <Goshawk> bluesign: just install thightvnc on windows and vino for ubuntu
[08:15] <kyja> nahoj: oh.
[08:16] <utab> dimbles google
[08:16] <bluesign> Goshawk: does it do nat2nat/
[08:16] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try from the cli --> mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL
[08:16] <Goshawk> bluesign: then you need a viewer, it' in applications--->internet--->terminal server client
[08:16] <Goshawk> bluesign: what do you mean for ant3nat?
[08:16] <harisund> bluesign: what do you mean by nat2nat?
[08:16] <Goshawk> nat2nat
[08:16] <utab> TheGateKeeper what is cli--> ...
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: terminal
[08:17] <bluesign> goshawk, harisund: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/nat2nat.html
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> !cli > utab
[08:17] <nahoj> kyja, well, i have found this patch https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2378 and they say that it helped them... but i cant figure out what to do with it... i guess everyone thinks its pretty obvious, lika asking for the start-menu in windows
[08:17] <jorgp> anyone know of any good free webchat servers/clients that support audio?
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> utab: start terminal and type: mount //filesrv/pool  /home/utab/documents/MECH_POOL
[08:18] <amee2k> how do i re-run the automatic X configuration?
[08:18] <harisund> bluesign if I am not much mistaken, every NAT must connect through a gateway, and if you forward the required ports on the gateway any VNC should work just fine.
[08:18] <harisund> amee2k: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <GUIPEnguin> can you add packages to the ubuntu installation via ubuntu cdroms, or does everything have to be downloaded via the internet with its package manager?
[08:18] <harisund> amee2k: sorry, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root
[08:18] <knapper> Hello, I have a small problem with my sound. It seems like the bass level is way to high and music is distorted slightly. Is there any system wide mixer in ubuntu?
[08:18] <bluesign> harisund: yep. i know but i need to connect without modifying gateway :(
[08:18] <harisund> GUIPEnguin:  you can add through CDrom. Just execute 'sudo apt-cdrom add' and then you can apt-get update
[08:18] <Vlet> Is there any way to automatically ban an ip in the firewall after a given number of failed ssh login attempts?
[08:18] <xarq> knapper: alsa-mixer
[08:18] <Goshawk> bluesign: yep
[08:19] <Goshawk> bluesign: you should configure your router for that
[08:19] <amee2k> harisund: ty :)
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper : without types and other options
[08:19] <pibarnas> Hi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.
[08:19] <xarq> er, I mean alsamixer
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> utab: correct
[08:19] <bluesign> goshawk: kk thanks anyway
[08:19] <utab> TheGateKeeper: still the same
[08:20] <lamego> pibarnas, you must have missed the driver required for your network card...
[08:20] <kyja> nahoj: I am looking
[08:20] <Goshawk> bluesign: the simplest way is to modify the router, you can use that NH host
[08:20] <Rookie-> Vlet - you have to write a script with "if" and then so it will write in your firewall and restart the firewall ....
[08:20] <amee2k> what is the difference between the "nv" and "nvidia" X server drivers?
[08:20] <pibarnas> nope, it's loaded. I see it with lsmod.
[08:20] <nahoj> kyja, thx!!
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> utab: won't mount? you get an error message?
[08:20] <Trae> how can I turn off psmouse permanently?  I don't want that module to load at boot.  I tried editing the blacklist file and doing:  blacklist psmouse
[08:20] <Trae> that didn't work
[08:20] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: so for a dialup user, my friend could install all the stuff he needs, like mplayer, etc, from the cdroms once downloaded?
[08:20] <utab> TheGateKeeper :the same message on the paste bin
[08:21] <bluesign> goshawk: actually nh host is a good idea but I could not find client for linux
[08:21] <Vlet> Rookie-: That's what I started doing, but I thought I'd check for a built-in solution first; Thanks
[08:21] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: well, I don't know if the CDROM has mplayer. Wait, what kind of a CDROM are you talking about? I was assuming the CDROM was an Ubuntu installation CDrom?
[08:21] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: do you mean you want to copy some packages into a CD, and then install the packages from that CD?
[08:21] <Goshawk> bluesign: look in google: vnc connection under router/nat
[08:21] <Rookie-> Easyer way would be to have  amailfunction and then write the ip manually ... mailfunction could be by 24 hours
[08:21] <bluesign> goshawk: thanks
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> utab: can you get to the share from konqueror?
[08:22] <kyja> nahoj: its asking me for user name and pass =]  I thought I could read about this file
[08:22] <utab> TheGateKeeper : alt+f2 and then smb://filesrv/pool gets me there
[08:22] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[08:22] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: I was wondering if ubuntu included like, say 5 disks with tons of packages on it like debian...that you could install off the cd without doing an online apt-get
[08:23] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: Well, there are DVDs with lots more from the repositories I think. In that case, yes... you will be able to do what you have in mind.
[08:23] <SKossu> ah what was the command to get the kernel sources installed? :S
[08:23] <utab> TheGateKeeper : the same is true for konquerer also
[08:23] <kyja> nahoj: you could try running it in bash. open terminal and cd to the location its in and then type the filename
[08:23] <harisund> GUIPEnguin: the thing is, if you want to apt-get from a CDrom instead of the internet, the CDrom's contents must be structured in the same way that the internet repositories are structured. You can't copy a bunch of files into a CD and expect apt to install it from such a CD
[08:23] <nahoj> kyja, just log in as a guest =)
[08:24] <kyja> ok
[08:24] <GUIPEnguin> harisund: I understand
[08:24] <harisund> SKossu: I think the kernel sources package goes something like linux-sources-arch ... search for linux-sources using apt-cache.
[08:24] <SKossu> harisund: okay thanks
[08:24] <harisund> Skossu I don't have immediate access to my Ubuntu box .. but apt-cache search linux-sources should give you enough information.
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try sudo mount //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  username=myusername,password=mypassword  subtituting the correct username & password
[08:25] <xarq> it's linux-source, not sources
[08:25] <utab> TheGateKeeper : done that before but lets try
[08:26] <treitter> is it possible to do a server install from the Desktop CD, or do I need to burn a server CD?
[08:26] <tepus6> dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)
[08:26] <Goshawk> treitter: you can do a desktop install and then modify it to have a server
[08:26] <harisund> treitter: it is not. With a desktop cD you will directly go into the desktop
[08:27] <harisund> treitter: once you install the entire package, you can remove whatever you don't want ...
[08:27] <Warbo> harisund: Not very useful for low disk space systems :)
[08:27] <utab> TheGateKeeper it is wrong it must start with sudo mount -t smbfs ..
[08:27] <treitter> Goshawk, harisund: thanks!
[08:27] <utab> TheGateKeeper it also does not work
[08:27] <harisund> utab what are you trying to  mount?
[08:28] <utab> harisund: samba shared folders
[08:29] <utab> TheGateKeeper : this is also not responsive
[08:29] <newubu> hi all
[08:29] <harisund> utab does the folder being shared exist on Windows or Linux
[08:29] <newubu> does anyone here use listen with an ipod?
[08:29] <agraupe> I'm having a problem with my wifi card.  iwscan list works fine, and I can see the network I want to connect to.  I have set the key as given to me, but dhclient fails to obtain an IP address.  any ideas what I could try?
[08:29] <utab> harisund Linux probably
[08:29] <tepus6> dose anyone know where i can get an openmosix 2.6.x kernel? (.deb)
[08:29] <Goshawk> agraupe: ndiswrapper drivers?
[08:29] <Luc1> How view files(jpg, mp3, avi......) on remote Samba sources without copy them to local disk?
[08:29] <utab> harisund : because the server is a linux server
[08:29] <harisund> utab ah ok ....
[08:30] <Goshawk> tepus6: google can help you this is ubuntu related channel
[08:30] <Archimedes> HEY GUYS
[08:30] <Luc1> I install smbclient.
[08:30] <newubu> does anyone how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:30] <Archimedes> I HAVE A QUESTION.
[08:30] <Archimedes> I SURE DO
[08:30] <Archimedes> I LOVE THE IPOD''
[08:30] <Goshawk> Archimedes: don't scream!
[08:30] <Rookie-> LOL @nahoj
[08:30] <lcdd> Luc1: you need smbmount
[08:30] <Archimedes> OH, SORRY.
[08:30] <Archimedes> I DIDN'T MEAN TO SCREAM.
[08:30] <liran_> is mplayer and mozilla-mplayer available in universe/multiverse?
[08:30] <tepus6> Goshawk, Im using ubuntu but i can find any ubuntu packages with any openmosix support at all
[08:30] <Goshawk> Archimedes: if you sream we will ban you
[08:30] <Archimedes> I'LL TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK.
[08:30] <Archimedes> OKAY, THANKS.
[08:30] <Warbo> nahoj: Rubik cubes are easy. As long as you have Ubuntu to solve it for you :)
[08:31] <Archimedes> THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, GOSHAWK
[08:31] <Chousuke> :P
[08:31] <Rookie-> caps ????
[08:31] <Goshawk> Archimedes: stop!
[08:31] <Archimedes> OKAY, I'M TURNING IT OFF RIGHT NOW!
[08:31] <Goshawk> tepus6: wait i'm googleing for you
[08:31] <Chousuke> !ops
[08:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:31] <Archimedes> Hey guys.
[08:31] <rhyddin> wtf
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> utab: try this don't know if it will get you any further http://jason.379.com/node/32
[08:31] <Archimedes> I have a question for you freaks.
[08:31] <rhyddin> nut
[08:32] <Archimedes> That wasn't nice.
[08:32] <Archimedes> Anyway.
[08:32] <agraupe> Goshawk: no, I'm using the drivers for my broadcom BCM4318 as given in the ubuntu wiki
[08:32] <GUIPEnguin> where can I download ubuntu package cds?   or could I use debian package cds?
[08:32] <kyja> nahoj: they say you fix the same way as acl260 but I cant find alot of info about that that is straight forward. still looking
[08:32] <Goshawk> Archimedes: i think that you are not so clever like the man that had your name in the 5 bc
[08:32] <Luc1> lcdd: Is possible that with Places->Network servers->network Windows?
[08:32] <Archimedes> That's a fallacious observation, Goshawk
[08:33] <Goshawk> agraupe: you lucky.. i have teh same card and i had to use ndiswrapper
[08:33] <nahoj> kyja, you are my hero!
[08:33] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: The alternative CDs contain the base system's packages. I think there are some people trying to put Universe on CD, but I don't know where to find them
[08:33] <villmow> I am having trouble with my ubuntu system after the last upgrade
[08:33] <agraupe> Goshawk: well, if yours actually works, you are more lucky than me
[08:33] <Trae> Hmmm, even Google isn't providing me with much in the way of trying to figure out how to keep psmouse from loading at boot.
[08:33] <Goshawk> agraupe: i'm connected with it
[08:33] <GUIPEnguin> Warbo: so I cant get cds with all the packages on them like debian?
[08:33] <GUIPEnguin> insted of using apt-get
[08:34] <villmow> my secondary monitor resolution is wrong and the kcontrol display module is givinng me an error saying that something is conflicting with it, anyone willing to help me solve the problem?
[08:34] <Luc1> lcdd: ok I try smbmount. Thanks for intrest.
[08:34] <newubu> DOEs anyone how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:34] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: Not ALL of the packages, just the ones used in a regular Ubuntu default system. As for the Universe ones (which I assume would include the whole thing) I am not sure, you may have some luck in the forums
[08:34] <janbanan> I have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?
[08:34] <newubu> does anyone know how to use and ipod with listen?
[08:34] <nahoj> newubu, don't spam
[08:35] <synic> newubu: did you install python-gpod ?
[08:35] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: You can always make your own CDs of packages, but I forget the tools used to do it
[08:35] <kyja> nahoj: but just thinking... have you tried "applications>sound and videa>volume control panel ? there is a pc speaker slider there that was not enabled by default
[08:35] <argument> how do I take a screenshot?
[08:35] <newubu> nahoj, sorry was correcting the phrase
[08:35] <jpjacobs> hit printscreen ;)
[08:35] <argument> CTRL-PrtScn usually works in Windows
[08:35] <newubu> synic, not sure...
[08:35] <Warbo> argument: press the print screen button, look in Applications>Accessories or use GIMP's "File>Aquire"
[08:35] <Goshawk> argument: it works in ubuntu too
[08:35] <synic> newubu: dpkg -l | grep gpod
[08:35] <npster> How do I move a file in terminal ?
[08:35] <jpjacobs> mv
[08:35] <synic> npster: mv
[08:36] <kyja> nahoj: and if that app is not there in the menu right click and choose edit menu and select sound and video and check the box on that so its in the menu.
[08:36] <argument> cool, got it
[08:36] <jpjacobs> ha first ;p
[08:36] <Warbo> npster: "mv file newlocation"
[08:36] <villmow> does anyone know what package conflicts with the kcontrol display module?
[08:36] <Goshawk> tepus6: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/10703 is in spanish
[08:36] <ubuntunabb> Ive tried to get a SMP working kernel going, from both the ubuntu repositories, and vanilla from kernel.org. when I use one from the reps. The machine wont respond at all, and with the kernel.org one, 3 of my hdds connected to the onboard promise raid doesnt work. someone knows something about this?
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> utab: if that doesn't work have a look at this documentation: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[08:36] <npster> ok
[08:36] <newubu> synic, nop
[08:36] <newubu> synic, neede?
[08:36] <newubu> synic, needed?
[08:36] <tepus6> Goshawk, thank you...
[08:36] <synic> newubu: if you want to use listen with your ipod, then yes.
[08:36] <nahoj> kyja, checking..
[08:36] <newubu> synic, thanks, gonna try
[08:37] <TheGateKeeper> utab: you have either got a connection problem, permissions problem or syntax not sure which
[08:37] <agraupe> Goshawk: do you have any idea how to use the proper bcm43xx driver?
[08:37] <Shin_Gouki> hello!
[08:37] <nahoj> kyja, everything is on max... i have been trying to fix this for about a week and i cant think of anything "normal" i have not tried...
[08:37] <Goshawk> agraupe: sure, use system--->administration--->networking to configure and use the card
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> utab: got to run hope you get it sorted
[08:38] <nahoj> kyja, this patch seems to be my last hope
[08:38] <Shin_Gouki> whre can i fin ubuntu 6.06 live CD download? i just found edubuntu live -CD? is the "normal" desktop CD also live CD?
[08:38] <Goshawk> agraupe: if you don't find it there, you should load the bcm43xx module (but it think it should be loaded yet)
[08:38] <utab> TheGateKeeper: one minute
[08:38] <kyja> nahoj: ok. mine had an x at the bottom and I had to click it.
[08:38] <kyja> nahoj: ok I continue to research
[08:38] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: wait
[08:38] <ivx> hey i don't know anything about the amd turion 64 processor. would the 64 bit version support this chip/
[08:39] <nahoj> kyja, no x:s here... =)
[08:39] <nahoj> maybe anyone else knows a bit or two about patching?
[08:39] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: are you from jp?
[08:39] <ks> -bash: /opt/lampp/tomcat/bin/startup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy
[08:39] <dimbles> is there any way of installing over the top of fedora (LVM partitions) and keeping my home folders?
[08:39] <Warbo> Does anyone know of issues with ra61 driver? (RaLink wifi card) It works on the live CD, but crashes my installed system
[08:39] <janbanan> I have some funny problem with my graphics. I have fglrx 8.28.8 installed. when I run glxgears i get 120-130FPS but when i simultaniously open any other program i get 12-13000FPS. why is that?
 just my nick , im from germany
[08:39] <Warbo> dimbles: To use LVM you need the alternate CD
 u got a link?
[08:39] <kyja> nahoj: so even as computer boots you dont get the startup sound? I know there are alot of media typed ubuntu just does not play at default.
[08:39] <exmethix> hey @ all
[08:40] <nahoj> kyja, no sound output what so ever...
[08:40] <kyja> and still after all the codec I have installed I cant play midi :/
[08:40] <exmethix> does somebody know how to minimize xchat into the systemtray?
[08:40] <dimbles> Warbo: which is the alternate cd?
[08:40] <kyja> k
[08:40] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: getting the link from your country
[08:40] <nahoj> kyja, same with suse
[08:40] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/6.06/
[08:40] <utab> TheGateKeeper: no
[08:40] <Warbo> dimbles: It uses text mode, it is listed on releases.ubuntu.com (current release is Dapper)
[08:41] <npster> how do I play .asx files. I installed totem but it doesn't work ?
 ? still theres no "live" in image titel , so i have to chose desktop?
[08:41] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: choose desktop cd
 ok, then burn as image and rest will work fine?
[08:41] <metrom> hi, I've just installed ubunto server 6.06 LAMP, how do I easily install a desktop UI?
[08:41] <jpjacobs> npster, totem sucks... try mplayer or xine (or totme-xine)
[08:41] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: in dapper desktop installs from live cd
[08:41] <_X_> eek, my xserver borked to day for some reason
[08:41] <Ash-Fox> metrom, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:42] <_X_> fglrx doesnt work, vesa doesnt work...
[08:42] <dimbles> Warbo: so the alternate cd wouldn't have been shipped to me
[08:42] <metrom> ahh. thanks.
[08:42] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: burn the desktop cd, it's live and you can install ubuntu if you want just clicking an icon
[08:42] <_X_> I just get the blue screen with the "x wont start, do you want to view error output" dialog
[08:42] <Warbo> dimbles: No, only the "desktop CD" gets shipped
[08:42] <_X_> I think I installed some new updates today
[08:42] <npster> tnx
[08:42] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: breezy had live cd and installation cd, now it's all in one: desktop cd
[08:42] <Ash-Fox> _X_, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:43] <_X_> Ash-Fox, thanks a million :)
 thx , good to know :)
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> No problem.
[08:43] <untung> Hi, how can I activate chinese input in ubuntu?
[08:43] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: i'm helping the 35th, you? :D
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, I've lost count :P
[08:43] <dimbles> cheers all, bye
[08:43] <looktj> lol
[08:44] <looktj> noone perfect
[08:44] <Goshawk> untung: look for canna if i'm not wrong
[08:44] <marshall_> is there any way to reset all wine defaults?
[08:44] <Genz00> can i install ubuntu without cdrom drive?
[08:44] <Genz00> i have .iso
[08:44] <untung> Goshawk: what is canna?
[08:44] <npster> why doesn't wine works with me ???
[08:44] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, yes.
[08:44] <Warbo> marshall_: You can remove the .wine directory and it will be recreated next time you start wine (that will remove everything you have installed in wine as well)
[08:44] <Goshawk> yep untung canna is A Japanese input system (server and dictionary).
[08:44] <Genz00> Ash-Fox how?
[08:45] <Goshawk> Canna supports Nemacs, Mule, kinput2 and canuum.
[08:45] <marshall_> Warbo:  ok
[08:45] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, well, you can boot the ISO off the network using PXE-boot
[08:45] <npster> jpjacobs: are you sure that mplayer will work
 IMO still there should some kind of "hint" that live cd is "normal" desktop... if it stand on the download side i wouldn't have need to ask ;)
 still tank u very much :O
[08:45] <mbass> marshell_: try 'mv .wine old.wine' -- use mv so that you can restore if anything goes wrong or there is actually stuff you want to keep.
[08:45] <stefan> nabend.
[08:45] <Minty> can I install a 64 alongside a 32 bit version ??
[08:46] <jpjacobs> npster, mplayer works for me... and with w32codecs, it can cope with about anythig you'll ever meet...
[08:46] <newubu> synic, thanks man
[08:46] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: i had the same trouble when i downloaded it in june :D
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Minty, create seperate partitions.
[08:46] <Genz00> Ash-Fox i have iso on hd >_>
[08:46] <Warbo> mbass: I should have said that really. It is what I always advocate :)
[08:46] <Genz00> i need download again?
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, so?
[08:46] <agraupe> Goshawk: any idea why I would be able to scan, but unable to connect or ping?
[08:46] <Minty> Ash-Fox: i just do a install from the cd rom ISO ??? and create a partition ??
[08:46] <Ash-Fox> Genz00, no. You need to run SFTP, and DHCP on another computer to be able todo a network boot.
[08:47] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: 36th :D (i'm doing like the ewel and the gnome in the lord of teh ring :D )
[08:47] <untung> I have SCIM input in my ubuntu
[08:47] <stefan> today i installed some patch called something like "...core...intel...xorg". now x dont want to start anymore... means my old xorg.conf doesnt work. has somebody an idea how to fix that?
[08:47] <Goshawk> !jp
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <Goshawk> what? is there not a japan channel?
[08:47] <Ash-Fox> stefan, hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:47] <janbanan> Where can I find info on how to install XGL. Need basic instructions
[08:47] <untung> IME engine is there with chinese input. how to activate the keyboard?
[08:48] <untung> Goshawk  I need chinese input not japanese
[08:48] <Warbo> !xgl > janbanan
[08:48] <mbass> Warbo: I'm surprised I remembered... (I have automatic backups running, which makes me too blase about such commands as rm)
 cya arround :)
[08:48] <Goshawk> Shin_Gouki: ok
[08:48] <wikijeff> Is it possible to give the GNOME volume control, date and time, and window list panels a completely transparent background??
[08:49] <stefan> thank u a lot ash-fox.. i will try that.
[08:49] <Goshawk> untung: what's the 2 letters that identify your country?
[08:49] <Goshawk> s/'s/are
[08:49] <looktj> example US
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> Minty, Genz00, it's far easier connecting a cdrom than setting up a network boot etc.
[08:50] <untung> CH
[08:50] <Goshawk> untung: ca if i'm not wrong
[08:50] <Minty> Ash-Fox: please Do I install the 64 version from the ISO cd and will it add to the existing grub ??
[08:50] <Goshawk> ah ch
[08:50] <Goshawk> !ch
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <Warbo> wikijeff: Not really. The only compromise would be to use a composite manager (xcompmgr, compiz, etc.) and make the whole panel translucent (but making it 100% translucent would make the text disappear too)
[08:50] <untung> china
[08:50] <b_> how can I view my MAC address?
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> Minty, yes, if you install it on a seperate partition.
[08:50] <wikijeff> Warbo: that's sad, my computer can't run a composite manager at a reasonable speed
[08:50] <lamego> b_, ifconfig
[08:50] <Minty> Ash-Fox: I can make the partion during the installion ?? eys
[08:51] <Minty> yes
[08:51] <Warbo> Minty: I would install GRUB onto a partition instead, so the two GRUBs don't conflict. Then you can "chinaload" the second GRUB from the first (the same way Windows is loaded from GRUB)
[08:51] <vgtl> Hi. Does anybody know the correct module for Apple fan support (PowerBook 17 inch 2006) ?
[08:51] <Warbo> *chainload
[08:51] <Goshawk> untung: sorry it seems that there is not any chinese support channel.. i don't know how to help you
[08:51] <madmax> hello... i have a little problem... i remember installing gcc-3.4 for something i needed to compile... and i did... but now i need to compile something else and i don't have a "gcc" binary anywhere in the path (not even root's)... only a gcc-3.4
[08:52] <Minty> Ash-Fox: have alraedy a windows grub as have a win partion
[08:52] <mbass> b_: use command 'ifconfig' in a terminal, your MAC address should be marked HWaddr
[08:52] <looktj> madman: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:52] <Goshawk> untung: [Obsolete]  Chinese input server (GB) for Crxvt in X11.
[08:52] <looktj> oops
[08:52] <looktj> sorry
[08:52] <Warbo> madmax: /usr/bin/gcc is a soft link to whichever version you use, you could recreate that link to point to gcc-3.4 (or install 4.0)
[08:52] <Goshawk> untung: look for xcin 2.5.x or chinput 3.x
[08:52] <madmax> what's weird is that i looked in synaptic and i have 3.3, 3.4, and 4.0 installed now... and no gcc binary... only a gcc-3.4
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> Minty, whatever?
[08:52] <amonbish> interest
[08:53] <madmax> oh... ok
[08:53] <madmax> thanks
[08:53] <PPower> Goshawk: Back again, its all working, want to see?
[08:53] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[08:53] <untung> ok
[08:53] <Goshawk> PPower: yep
[08:53] <gidim> You'll never guess what happened to me. :D
[08:53] <Goshawk> untung: GTK+2 based input method platform for Chinese users ---> install gcin
[08:54] <looktj> gidim: What?
[08:54] <PPower> Goshawk: See your message
[08:54] <kvossen> I get an SHPC: cannot reserve MMIO region error during boot-time hardware detection. Any idea what might be causing this?
[08:54] <Goshawk> PPower: should i log in? :D
[08:54] <PPower> if you want
[08:55] <Goshawk> PPower: ssh or vnc?
[08:55] <PPower> try both
[08:55] <gidim> I downloaded the Ubuntu 32-bit to make the switch from 64-bit until the support is there, and during the reformat of hda1 it locks at 14%, I wait... and wait... finally I cancel and reboot to try again, hda1 is no longer detected. ^^;;
[08:55] <kyja> nahoj: they say this is as easy as finding windows start lol
[08:55] <dereksivers> Anyone else download the automatic update : xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3_i386.deb yesterday?  xorg won't work at all since the update.  says "no screens found".
[08:56] <kyja> nahoj: they dont make useing this vary clear.
[08:56] <gidim> So I kinda have no OS but the Live CD now... well, either Live CD.
[08:56] <Wanderer> dereksivers: do a refresh and re-update
[08:56] <Wanderer> the fix is on the servers
[08:56] <kyja> nahoj: still hunting
[08:56] <Warbo> Minty: What I meant was that you already have GRUB on your MBR (master boot record), and that is being controlled by the Ubuntu you have installed. Installing a new one there would mess up whenever you installed a new kernel, since both Ubuntu's would fight for control over it. If you add the second GRUB to a partition instead then you can put a single chainloader entry into the GRUB you have already. Basically your boot menu
[08:56] <lamego> dereksivers, read the topic...
[08:56] <nahoj> kyja, no, they just assume everyone knows what to do...
[08:56] <dereksivers> Wanderer: refresh?
[08:56] <nahoj> kyja, looking as well, off course..
[08:56] <dereksivers> lamego: what topic?
[08:56] <PPower> Goshawk: Just dont do anything nasty
[08:57] <looktj> Dereksivers: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[08:57] <Goshawk> PPower: i can't conect with vnc
[08:57] <Goshawk> PPower: tryin ssh
[08:57] <dereksivers> looktj: ah. ok. thank you.
[08:57] <PPower> Goshawk: What happens with vnc?
[08:57] <looktj> no problem
[08:57] <klm-> Where can I get the newest and proper flash support for Mozilla?
[08:58] <Minty> Warbo: sorry thats a little complicated for me, how do I chain load ??
[08:58] <PPower> klm-: www.adobe.com
[08:58] <klm-> I installed a lib via apt but it seems very buggy
[08:58] <Goshawk> PPower: pop-corn LOL!
[08:58] <Goshawk> PPower: are you working on an OS?
[08:58] <Warbo> Minty: "chainloading" basically means that one bootloader gives up control to another. The way GRUB hands over control to the WIndows bootloader. If you look at the Windows entry for GRUB then just copy that, but change the name and the partition it points to
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Yes, with some friends of mine, we need help bad
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: good
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: monokernel o microkernel?
[08:59] <kyja> nahoj: but did you try running this? like haveing it on the desktop and doing sudo ~/Desktop/acer.patch
[08:59] <Warbo> klm-: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Eh? Why good? Plus, what error did vnc spew?
[08:59] <PPower> Goshawk: Micro
[08:59] <Minty> Warbo: thanks will look into this a little more as scared that I will screw it all up
[08:59] <Goshawk> PPower: interesting
[08:59] <otroean> Got an Asus W1V with built in subwoofer. After installing Ubuntu Dapper only the stereo speakers work.
[09:00] <PPower> Goshawk: It seems the multiblock code is currently broken, it switches to block -bigsmall number here
[09:00] <nahoj> kyja, command not found...
[09:00] <Goshawk> PPower: i'm trying to do something like that... in D programming language
[09:00] <PPower> Goshawk: Whats D
[09:00] <gidim> So um... I'll just go tinker with my box, see if I can get my drives to detect.
[09:00] <Goshawk> PPower: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/
[09:01] <PPower> Goshawk: Want to help us? We use C and Assembly
[09:01] <Goshawk> PPower: i'm seeing the code right now
[09:01] <Goshawk> PPower: is it your desktop or server?
[09:01] <PPower> Goshawk: VMware
[09:01] <Warbo> Minty: I would say to just install Ubuntu like normal, but then install GRUB to your new / partition, then boot back into your old Ubuntu system and reinstall GRUB to the MBR (installing to a partition is like installing to /dev/hda1, rather than installing to the MBR which is like /dev/hda). After that just add a new entry to your old Ubuntu's /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[09:01] <Goshawk> ah :D
[09:01] <claviola> D:
[09:02] <Goshawk> time to go people.. my dinner is on the table
[09:02] <Goshawk> see you tomorrow
[09:02] <PPower> Ok, bye!
[09:02] <Goshawk> bye all
[09:02] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[09:02] <tuxtux_> ciao
[09:02] <argument> what's the difference between using the "Postscript (recommended)" driver named Standard and the "regular" one named HPLIJ ?
[09:03] <nahoj> kyja, i am on to something here...
[09:03] <ntoll> has the xorg breakage been fixed yet?
[09:03] <nahoj> kyja, the guys in the #alsa proved to be helpfull. following their guide now..
[09:03] <argument> i've got an HP LaserJet 3050 - is the HPLIJ driver postscript based? what's the diff?
[09:03] <npster> Is there a application for making animations ???
[09:03] <klm-> Warbo: which repository is it in?
[09:03] <holycow> *hmmm*
[09:03] <argument> npster, you can make animations with The GIMP
[09:04] <Minty> Warbo: ok what will hapen at the first reboot seing that I will have '2' grubs 1 mbr with old grub and the new one, will I be able to choose, or will the machine just get confused
[09:04] <argument> npster, e.g. animated gifs
[09:04] <high> can someone help me locate 2.6.15-20 flight kernel or the disc itself.  i cant seem to find an old ubuntu archive
[09:04] <Warbo> klm-: multiverse
[09:04] <Thunderpants> ntoll, apt-get update and check its 10.4 and not 10.3
[09:04] <ntoll> Thunderpants, thanks
[09:04] <Thunderpants> yw
[09:04] <ntoll> its still saying 10.3
[09:04] <npster> yeah, but you will have to make every picture, argument
[09:04] <ntoll> I'll apt-get update
[09:04] <holycow> nautilus is requesting blank dvds and refuses to write to blank cds ... anyone seen this before?
[09:04] <argument> npster, oh, that requires heavy math iirc, and there are apps to do it, but i don't know what ones
[09:05] <Warbo> Minty: It should boot at least one of the systems fine, although I am not sure which. You can recover one system from within the other using chroot. If you get confused then just come back in here and ask
[09:05] <npster> argumet: rephrase please
[09:05] <ugarit> can someone help me with the removal of a package via dpkg?
[09:05] <exs> is there any really good fun, games for ubuntu?... The only ones available are the 2-2 puzzle ones. I was looking for a spaceship 2d game. or 3d game
[09:05] <npster> argument: rephrase please
[09:05] <argument> npster, i heard you the first time
[09:05] <argument> :)
[09:05] <tom123> Hey guys - anyone able to help with a network-manager and vpn problem?
[09:05] <holycow> exs, open up synaptic and start installing
[09:05] <IcemanV9> ugarit: dpkg -r <package name>
[09:05] <poningru> !rhythmbox
[09:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:05] <Minty> Warbo: thanks loggin to try /me crosses his fingers
[09:05] <holycow> exs, there is an entire section for games
[09:05] <argument> npster, taking a skeleton model and defining joints and movement axes and stuff requires heavy math
[09:05] <Warbo> exs: Spaceship game? Chromium, or if you are hardcore then Vegastrike
[09:05] <exs> holycow:  i opened up add/remove.. haven't tried synaptic yet
[09:06] <argument> npster, there are apps to do that but i don't know what ones
[09:06] <pibarnas> Hi, folks. I've upgraded my kernel to the last kernel.org one. Everything went well, except for the network. When I get ito gnome the network applet is marked with a "x". When I click on it, it says the following error: Erro SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device. Anyone could help me? The config is basically the same of the ubuntu's kernel.
[09:06] <Naosz> eve-online runs great under cedega
[09:06] <klm-> Warbo: thanks! didn't have multiverse activated.
[09:06] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21421 dpkg -r is getting errors
[09:06] <npster> Does someone know any type of apps that me and argument talked about ?
[09:06] <kaot> pibarnas: probably your nic driver.  wireless or ethernet?
[09:06] <tom123> i have no vpn connection in the vpn connection list of network-manager
[09:06] <Warbo> klm-: Well, you says that now, but that package didn't work for me :( I had to get a Debian one from somewhere (I forget where)
[09:06] <pibarnas> ethernet one.
[09:07] <pibarnas> the module is loaded on boot.
[09:07] <kaot> pibarnas: not anymore, I'm guessing :\   open a term and do ifconfig, see if it's there
[09:07] <pibarnas> I can ping my machine, but not the gateway...
[09:07] <exs> i downloaded the tuxmath for kids, expecting to be able to do fairly well since I am almost 20. I find it very, very hard.
[09:07] <argument> npster, freshmeat.net sourceforge.net and google all probably know better than most of us in here
[09:07] <pibarnas> Yep, it's there.
[09:08] <tom123> hey - any idea out there?
[09:08] <IcemanV9> ugarit: it is not a package (with .deb extension) -- sudo aptitude remove clvm
[09:08] <kaot> pibarnas: what kind is it?
[09:08] <lamego> kaot, please have in mind that he is using a kernel compiled by him....
[09:08] <pibarnas> It's a pci one. I think tulip or dmfe... but both modules are loaded, as ocurred with old kernel config.
[09:09] <kaot> pibarnas: i mean what chipset
[09:09] <pibarnas> oh, wait a minute...
[09:09] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  same problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21422
[09:09] <tom123> help - i need H - E - L - P ;)
[09:09] <pibarnas> It's a Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 40).
[09:10] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wireless driver but it gives this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. rt2500.ko failed to build! I tried installing Linux Source but same error comes. Anyone got any tips?
[09:10] <poningru> SKossu: rt2500 should be included out of the box
[09:10] <poningru> it was for me
[09:11] <lupine> the driver works, but it's a year old
[09:11] <babis85> hello, how can i make my firewall not to start automatically on boot?
[09:11] <IcemanV9> ugarit: ok. you'll need to stop its service like sudo /etc/init.d/clvmd stop, then remove it.
[09:11] <matko> is xserver package already fixed?
[09:11] <SKossu> poningru yes it is, but I need to patch it for some features
[09:11] <poningru> ah gotcha
[09:11] <poningru> SKossu: wait is it the txpower feature?
[09:11] <kaot> pibarnas: did the tulip module load?
[09:11] <poningru> if so dont do it...
[09:11] <Warbo> SKossu: Is that RaLink?
[09:11] <poningru> nothing but trouble
[09:11] <poningru> Warbo: yeah
[09:11] <SKossu> Warbo: yes
[09:11] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i am not sure if clvmd is the correct spelling, but you know which one.
[09:11] <pibarnas> Yep. the tulip mode is on.
[09:12] <SKossu> Poningru: no idea :P
[09:12] <Warbo> Ah, I am having problems with my card :(
[09:12] <lupine> SKossu: make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386
[09:12] <npster> is Blender good for animation creating ?
[09:12] <poningru> SKossu: what feature are you looking for?
[09:12] <poningru> npster: yep
[09:12] <IcemanV9> npster: yes
[09:12] <tom123> anyone familiar with the nm-applet?
[09:12] <ugarit> IcemanV9: same problem! even after stopping it.
[09:12] <SKossu> poningru: packet injection :P
[09:12] <kaot> pibarnas: how about the dmfe module?  is that loaded?
[09:12] <lupine> tut tut :D
[09:12] <poningru> SKossu: hehe gotcha
[09:12] <SKossu> lupine: alright thanks
[09:12] <npster> it is enormous ?
[09:12] <pibarnas> It's loaded too... :(
[09:12] <kaot> pibarnas: ah.  try rmmod'ing them both, modprobe dmfe, see if that helps
[09:13] <poningru> anyone know how rhythmbox can be enabled to get music from shared stuff?
[09:13] <kaot> pibarnas: if so, blacklist the tulip module
[09:13] <Warbo> npster: I think it boasts at being less than 10MB
[09:13] <lupine> alternatively you can do "KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` make"
[09:13] <poningru> shouldnt it do it out of the box? like itunes?
[09:13] <npster> what is rendering ?
[09:13] <lupine> can you send me the link for the patch?
[09:13] <drbashir> Hi, can windows read ext2 or 3 filesystems?
[09:13] <Warbo> npster: Erm, if you don't know that the nBlender may not be the tool for you :)
[09:13] <lupine> not natively
[09:13] <IcemanV9> ugarit: including -f (force)?
[09:13] <lupine> various 3rd party tools will set it up for you
[09:13] <poningru> drbashir: nice nick ;) yes it can but only for ext2 iirc
[09:13] <pibarnas> I'll do that, thanks for your response!! Thank you very much. I'll try it.
[09:13] <kaot> poningru: you mean shared like with samba or something?
[09:14] <npster> drbashir: NO
[09:14] <kaot> pibarnas: no problem
[09:14] <ugarit> IcemanV9: even with -f :-(
[09:14] <Warbo> npster: rendering is when all of your models, lighting, actions, etc. get produced into an animation, frame by frame
[09:14] <NemesisUK> drbashir, yes you can use ext2ifs works for ext3 and ext2
[09:14] <Warbo> drbashir: Yes
[09:14] <drbashir> lupine, poningru, thx,
[09:14] <poningru> drbashir: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[09:14] <drbashir> wow, never had this much responce :P
[09:14] <poningru> drbashir: welcome to #ubuntu :)
[09:14] <FurryNemesis> sheesh, today was not a good day
[09:15] <ablyss> wow.. nice to see xnest and xorg-server fixed.. i was two clicks away from reinstalling
[09:15] <IcemanV9> ugarit: hm. check if any of processes are still running or not via top or htop
[09:15] <profoX`> Ash-Fox: seems like it's more for the technical board, my proposal :)
[09:15] <poningru> linux for human beings
[09:15] <FurryNemesis> did anyone else lose their comiz themes?
[09:15] <FurryNemesis> *compiz
[09:15] <IcemanV9> woot! got my network printer to work! :)
[09:15] <ablyss> not me Furry
[09:15] <hadi> how to install gtk themes from .deb packegs
[09:15] <poningru> kaot: kinda, there is a protocol called daap that itunes uses to share music
[09:16] <ablyss> i been w/out total X usage as of last night, faulty upgrade
[09:16] <poningru> kaot: apperantly rhythmbox should support it
[09:16] <hadi> how to install gtk themes from .deb packegs?
[09:16] <ugarit> IcemanV9: none :-(
[09:16] <poningru> hadi: dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:16] <matko> quit
[09:16] <IcemanV9> ugarit: and still can't remove it?
[09:16] <hadi> ok but how can i set it
[09:17] <ugarit> IcemanV9: that's right!
[09:17] <Azeraith> why are there so many ppl in these rooms
[09:17] <drbashir> Crap, I have a faulty hard drive. Its a read-only NTFS in a USB drive casing. Can I just switch it off while its trying to copy?
[09:17] <efren> #ubuntu-es
[09:17] <npster> Blender is cool, I like it!!!
[09:17] <efren> cual es el servidor espaol
[09:17] <kjm> Azeraith - because there a lot of people who want to learn, and more that want to help them.
[09:17] <profoX`> Okay, this is a hard one: I am working on a memory searching tool. I am trying to figure out how to search for a value in memory addresses of a certain process. I'm trying to develop this for an improved version of Knoppix|RE (reverse engineer live cd) -- any ideas ?
[09:17] <msoul> hadi: FluxBox?
[09:17] <npster> efren: english only !
[09:17] <andres_> how do I go from 5.04 to 5.10?
[09:17] <Warbo> Azeraith: Either a) Ubuntu is great, and it has loads of followers, or b) Ubuntu is terrible and everyone is having problems :)
[09:17] <kaot> drbashir: I've heard that doing that can render you sterile and also kill your dog
[09:17] <IdleOne> efren, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:18] <kjm> profoX' - what language?
[09:18] <ablyss> Azeraith: because i'm popular ;P
[09:18] <profoX`> kjm: python.
[09:18] <Azeraith> hmmm
[09:18] <poningru> !update > andres_
[09:18] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i'm out of options .. let me see if i could find more
[09:18] <Azeraith> what's everyone talking about
[09:18] <profoX`> kjm: but if you can give me advice of where to look that would be cool too.. I was thinking /proc/<pid> somewhere.. maybe make a hexdump there.. i dont know.. im clueless :)
[09:18] <poningru> drbashir: no dont do that
[09:18] <drbashir> kaot, :O dont care about the dog, but I still planning to have kids a few years from now
[09:19] <kjm> profoX' - eek.  Pointers are dynamic in terms of address space I think....not sure if you can extract the memory address using python
[09:19] <drbashir> poningru, how do I force unmount it?
[09:19] <kaot> profoX`: the system manager in gnome has a way you can check that, hang on I'll mess with it a second
[09:19] <looktj> any have bot power
[09:19] <looktj> !fix
[09:19] <ugarit> IcemanV9: syslog is showing  clvmd: Cannot login in to CCSD server even though clvmd and ccs are not running according to ps
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <drbashir> because its not canceling (my HD is ticking)
[09:19] <kaot> uh s/manager/monitor/ duh
[09:19] <ablyss> i think python does away w/ pointers... sort of c++ headache i believe
[09:19] <profoX`> kjm: kaot: thanks, I appreciate the help
[09:19] <looktj> !fix should be: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[09:19] <hadi> msoul: Gnome
[09:19] <kjm> profoX' - What he said.....beyond my programming abilities.
[09:19] <SKossu> lupine: Tried what U suggested using ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 but didnt work :(
[09:19] <Warbo> looktj: I think that is already !xorgbugfix
[09:20] <looktj> !xorgbugfix
[09:20] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[09:20] <kjm> ablyss : Well, you don't need to "deal" with pointers, but they are there.  Source of many bugs comes from the way python handles its namespace.
[09:20] <kyja> nahoj: I am sorry, I am looking on forrums also and this is not anything I can figure out :(
[09:20] <kaot> profoX`: but you probably want something you can build into another program or script or something, I'm guessing.
[09:20] <andres_> poningru, thanks!
[09:20] <looktj> that doesnt help newbies
[09:20] <kjm> ablyss : difference between x = class<foo> and x = class<foo>()
[09:20] <kjm> for example
[09:20] <FurryNemesis> bah I'll just wait for compiz to update
[09:20] <kaot> profoX`: anyway, if you're interested you can just open system monitor, right click on program name, memory maps.  if your skilled maybe you can dig at the system monitor sources to find the code to do it
[09:21] <kjm> profoX' - look into the source for top.
[09:21] <WiseProfit> What the heck is Ubuntu?
[09:21] <kjm> !ubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:21] <nahoj> kyja, as i said, the guys at #alsa are trying to help me as well...
[09:21] <babis85> ubotu: hello, when i do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" after doing update the candidate version is still the 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[09:21] <profoX`> kaot: yea, but I'll do that part myself. I want to gather as much about the memory of a process as possible, because my prog will have to extract that stuff. I'll check the sysmonitor
[09:21] <zingo> Hi i have one question, if im using the same account that i created during the installation is that the root-account? So should i make a new 1
[09:22] <kaot> profoX`: oh hey, how about /proc/$pid/maps
[09:22] <WiseProfit> Their website looks pretty gnarly
[09:22] <kjm> zingo - no it is not the root account.  It is an account that has super user privvies when required through sudo
[09:22] <drbashir> poningru?
[09:22] <zingo> kjm: ok, thanks!
[09:22] <kaot> profoX`: that seems to show memory address ranges
[09:22] <Warbo> zingo: The first account created is in the admin group, which lets that user use the "sudo" command. New users are not in this group by default, but can be added to it
[09:22] <zingo> But i can keep usingit for regular usage?
[09:23] <kjm> zingo - absolutely.
[09:23] <Warbo> zingo: Yes, it is a regular user account
[09:23] <ablyss> me and programming object coding dont mix.. i try and try and nothing sinks in
[09:23] <profoX`> kaot: yea I was alraedy looking in /proc/pid/ but its a bit chaossy there :) I'll check the map file
[09:23] <zingo> Great. Thanks for your help guys
[09:23] <kjm> ablyss - I know your pain.   I will forever be a procedural coder.
[09:23] <POVaddct> zingo: if you want a user without sudo rights, don't put that user in the group "admin"
[09:23] <kjm> ablyss  - or at best a bad oo coder.
[09:23] <ablyss> some people talk it like they where born to speak it
[09:24] <zingo> POVaddct:  Alright
[09:24] <poningru> huh?
[09:24] <ablyss> you know them types kjm
[09:24] <poningru> what?
[09:24] <kjm> ablyss - yes, very well.
[09:24] <ablyss> amazing peeps
[09:24] <lamego> ablyss, OO is not about coding, is about OO thinking :)
[09:25] <ablyss> lamego, yes.. that's right
[09:25] <kjm> ablyss - and they always state just what lamego just said :)  I just can't think in that way yet when structuring my programming tasks I guess.
[09:25] <IcemanV9> ugarit: i just looked thru forums. no post on uninstall/remove, only on install problem. :/
[09:26] <ugarit> IcemanV9: thanks, I could't find anything on removal either :-(
[09:26] <SKossu> to create a make symlink build point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 is  ln -s /build /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 the right command?
[09:26] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  I can't install anything because of this
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: build not /build, and that's if you're in /usr/src/linux-headers-blahblah already
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: and you've got it backwards
[09:27] <FordPrefect> has anyone gotten the sound card on macbook pro to come out of suspend properly?  I managed to work around by reloading everything (kill all sound users, shutdown alsa-utils, unload all snd*, then go the other dir) but I was wondering if there was anything codewise out there?
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: ln -s destination linkname
[09:27] <SKossu> kaot: ah, im a jackass :P
[09:27] <kaot> SKossu: eh I mess that up all the time too
[09:28] <SKossu> kaot: first time im ever using Linux so, I guess im doing OK
[09:28] <kaot> SKossu: you seem to be, yes
[09:29] <Ross> how do i enable ssh in ubuntu (dapper drake)
[09:29] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:29] <erUSUL> !ssh
[09:29] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:29] <POVaddct> Ross: apt-get install openssh-server   ?
[09:29] <Ross> i'll try it
[09:29] <Ross> POVaddct, thanks for your help...
[09:30] <jvai> hey peepz
[09:30] <zingo> is it safe to use ubuntu without firestarter or any other firewall?
[09:30] <compotatoj> zingo: yes
[09:30] <zingo> compotatoj: Thought so :-=
[09:31] <NickGarvey> zingo: I would say so, but a firewall would never hurt
[09:31] <poningru> NickGarvey: meh
[09:31] <SKossu> kaot: it wont let me into the dir, says  Too many levels of symbolic links
[09:31] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: its better not to have all the extra crap
[09:31] <drbashir> Whats a good (as in equivilent of Partition Magic) partitioning prog for ubuntu?
[09:31] <npster> blender is pretty hard to work with
[09:31] <POVaddct> zingo: depends on which services you have runniung
[09:31] <kaot> yeh, you don't want to go and install something like samba or sshd and forget to turn on a firewall afterwards
[09:31] <Toba> I just put a tv capture card in my computer
[09:31] <compotatoj> drbashir: gparted
[09:31] <poningru> drbashir: gparted
[09:31] <Toba> what's the best player available for linux?
[09:31] <drbashir> thx both :)
[09:31] <Toba> that will easily use the capture card
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: vlc
[09:32] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: firestarter is more for a router on a linux box
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: or mplayer
[09:32] <zingo> Yeah, of course. I just wondered if there was like supergood to have a firewall.
[09:32] <poningru> Toba: or totem
[09:32] <NickGarvey> compotatoj: mm.. I dunno I liked it
[09:32] <sethk> kaot, installing sshd doesn't imply any need for a firewall
[09:32] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:32] <compotatoj> NickGarvey: I tried it but it didn't work that well with my computer and I didn't need it anyways
[09:32] <NickGarvey> so is the xorgbug fixed?
[09:32] <kaot> sethk: should I point you at the old sshd security vulns and people freaking out about the 0day exploits?
[09:32] <POVaddct> zingo: learning to use iptables is the only firewall IMHO
[09:32] <dravas> Whats the app to install Mouse Icons
[09:32] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  where is the pre-remove script?
[09:32] <sethk> kaot, no, because they are nonsensical
[09:33] <kaot> ...
[09:33] <zingo> POVaddct: oh
[09:33] <NickGarvey> yes ubotu says it has
[09:33] <kaot> ok, I imagined boxes getting compromised because of that.
[09:33] <kaot> my bad.
[09:33] <sethk> kaot, certainly not with recent versions
[09:33] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  someone at #debian said: i've done this before but its not a nice thing to do.. but you could just kill clvm yourself then edit the pre-remove script its bitching about and change the exit 1 to exit 0 its failing on and it will remove for you
[09:33] <POVaddct> zingo: all other "firewalls" are just frontends to iptables
[09:33] <sethk> kaot, it's true people freaked out, but they didn't really get it.
[09:33] <kaot> sethk: crap happens. if you don't understand that, you have no business giving anyone security advice.
[09:33] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:33] <kaot> no, they freaked out because they got owned.
[09:33] <Toba> ><
[09:33] <Toba> how do I tell mplayer to use my tuner card
[09:33] <Toba> its interface blows
[09:34] <orbish> i've been up all night and i'm finally back up and running
[09:34] <sethk> kaot, I think you aren't really understanding what happened.
[09:34] <kjm> can someone recommend a decent vnc viewer?
[09:34] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:34] <IcemanV9> ugarit: interesting. more work to remove it!
[09:34] <hawkaloogie> kjm, tightvncviewer
[09:34] <SKossu> kaot: Did it, though it says creating symbolic link `/build' to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386': File exists
[09:35] <kjm> hawkaloogie : thanks
[09:35] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > Rusty1
[09:35] <sethk> SKossu, make sure that /build actually points there
[09:35] <Warbo> !info gcursor
[09:35] <NickGarvey> !mp3
[09:35] <ubotu> gcursor: gnome cursor theme managing software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.061-ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[09:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix
[09:35] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[09:35] <NickGarvey> eek sorry
[09:35] <sethk> SKossu, that error will happen when /build exists, regardless of where /build points
[09:35] <SKossu> sethk: okay, cos it doesnt work correctly atm :P
[09:36] <dravas> Whats teh app to easily install Different Mouse Icons
[09:36] <zarstar> ehm
[09:36] <NickGarvey> dravas: what do you mean?
[09:36] <Warbo> dravas: Look up at what ubotu said
[09:36] <zarstar> could i've killed the "superuser"?
[09:37] <sethk> SKossu, ls -l on the link will show you what it points to
[09:37] <zingo> I just rebooted my computer and noticed that in my GRUB-List i had new entries.. Ubuntu-xxxx-k8. Somethnig that came when i installed gfx.drivers. Is that normal and how can i make that list to just Ubuntu and Windows
[09:37] <Toba> if hardware shows up in lspci, that means I have drivers, right?
[09:38] <Toba> it has a description and everything
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: thats your old kernel, incase something breaks
[09:38] <void^> Toba: no.
[09:38] <Warbo> k8 is AMD, I think maybe 64bit?
[09:38] <SKossu> sethk: thanks saved me some googling time :)
[09:38] <Toba> no?
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: you can edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out the entry for the new kernel though
[09:38] <sethk> zarstar, unlikely
[09:38] <zingo> NickGarvey: Ok. So the newest Kernel is always at the top?
[09:38] <NickGarvey> zingo: should be
[09:38] <Warbo> yes
[09:38] <zingo> Alright, thanks again
[09:38] <NickGarvey> :)
[09:39] <Warbo> zingo: Unless you mess around with /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:39] <zingo> Warbo: havn't touched that one yet
[09:39] <zingo> :)
[09:40] <jvai> i nko 1 thing, java is a pain to get working!
[09:40] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it
[09:40] <haasteem> hi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...
[09:40] <phreakys> hi
[09:40] <legind> any ideas?
[09:40] <phreakys> any way to get java working on ubuntu?
[09:40] <SKossu> sethk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src         6 2006-08-22 22:17 linux-headers-2.6.14-26-386 -> /build         no idea if thats correct :S
[09:40] <Sapaki> hi i can't configure my d-link dwl 122 to ubuntu 5.10 any ideas
[09:40] <void^> !java
[09:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:40] <NickGarvey> Sapaki: what is not working?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> Sapaki: is that a wireless card or a wired ethernet card?
[09:41] <Sapaki> wireless usb card, the OS won't recognize it
[09:41] <drbashir> What is a good filechecking program?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> phreakys: I suggest the program "easyubuntu" to help with starting java
[09:41] <Warbo> drbashir: checking?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> drbashir: fsck?
[09:41] <Acidfk> What's the model of the card?
[09:42] <drbashir> or rather, a filesystem checker, and maybe even a disk repairer (as in it can repair/mark bad clusters)
[09:42] <mhminai> \QUIT
[09:42] <drbashir> I think my HD is dying though
[09:42] <Ross> anyone know how to turn a usb wireless card into an access point, or let a windows pc access the internet through my ubuntu box wirelessly?
[09:42] <NickGarvey> drbashir: man fsck
[09:42] <Warbo> drbashir: filesystem checker = fsck
[09:43] <Warbo> Ross: Making an access point can be tricky, and it depends on the card
[09:43] <Sapaki> what do you mean what model, is dlink the model?
[09:43] <Warbo> Ross: I know it works for prism2 cards
[09:43] <POVaddct> Warbo: using a atheros card for that makes it rather easy
[09:43] <untung>  hi, how can i share a printer connected to ubuntu machine?
[09:43] <Ross> Warbo, It's an old SMC 2662W v.3, I've tried through iwconfig to set the mode to master, using a bridge, but it said it 'failed'
[09:43] <NickGarvey> !samba > untung
[09:44] <Ross> not sure what chipset it uses
[09:44] <NickGarvey> untung: that should do it
[09:44] <Warbo> Bridging the connections might work (if you get Internet from eth0 and bridge it to your wireless)
[09:44] <untung> NickGarvey: how can i set it up? i want xp machine use this printer
[09:44] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  solved it /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.prerm changed exit $? to exit 0 and it worked
[09:44] <kyja> nahoj: that is good to hear. I hope they can help =] 
[09:44] <orbish> i need a root password in order to use alsaconf?
[09:44] <Warbo> Well I am getting a little out of my depth. I tried to do it a while ago, but I couldn't do it on my card
[09:44] <orbish> wtf?
[09:44] <Ross> Warbo, that's what I tried, but the only modes it said it supported were 'managed', and 'ad-hoc', i think
[09:45] <NickGarvey> untung: try reading the link ubotu sent you
[09:45] <Ross> same
[09:45] <Warbo> orbish: alsaconf? I didn't think that was in Ubuntu
[09:45] <SKossu> why does it give this error: ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links          when trying to do ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build
[09:45] <nemtaro> hi, is it possible to compile a package on x86_64 but have it use the 32bit libraries and/or run as a 32bit compilation?
[09:45] <untung> ok
[09:45] <NickGarvey> orbish: alsa connects to your sound card which is a device.. so I would think so..
[09:45] <IcemanV9> ugarit: terrific! :)
[09:45] <NickGarvey> nemtaro: yes.. but.. its a little tricky if I recall
[09:45] <Warbo> nemtaro: You can set the build architecture
[09:45] <orbish> warbo: i just found it in /usr/sbin/alsaconf
[09:45] <oconnore> !ati
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <NickGarvey> nemtaro: theres a command for it.. which Warbo might know
[09:45] <orbish> NickGarvey: well the thing is, sudo doesn't find it
[09:46] <Warbo> orbish: Well if it does exist then it is a system-wide hardware changing program, so obviously it needs sudo
[09:46] <ugarit> IcemanV9:  very dangerous though
[09:46] <nemtaro> Warbo, thanks, I'm trying to install a perl module which doesn't compile on x86_64, is there a gcc flag or something I can set so it would be compiled as a 32bit?
[09:46] <NickGarvey> orbish: try sudo -i then run the command
[09:46] <orbish> ok
[09:46] <haasteem> hi, how do i make my pc check /etc/hosts ? i have put a whole bunch of ad sites there...
[09:46] <holycow> does anyone know the reasoning behind not using the official openoffice icons in ubuntu dapper?
[09:46] <Warbo> I know "./configure --arch=XXX" is usually an option for building programs
[09:46] <freedomspirit> Bonsoir
[09:47] <IdleOne> !fr
[09:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:47] <freedomspirit> oops Sorry
[09:47] <IdleOne> no problem
[09:47] <orbish> NickGarvey: sudo -i alsaconf "No such file or directory"
[09:47] <orbish> hmm
[09:47] <Warbo> holycow: I think it might just be a usability issue
[09:47] <NickGarvey> orbish: no, run "sudo -i" then run "alsconf"
[09:47] <orbish> oh ok
[09:47] <beniib> Hey - I have a wierd ubuntu networking problem: I cannot resolve web addresses unless I ping them first from a console. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:47] <holycow> Warbo, really? bizarre
[09:47] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it
[09:47] <drbashir> what FS does linux handle best if the disk the FS is on is probably partly broken?
[09:47] <Chu> ...This is terribly pathetic, but I seem to have trouble running a shell script. :/
[09:48] <Sapaki> d-link doesn't offer any adaptors for unix
[09:48] <Warbo> holycow: Well, I am pretty sure the icons are Free, but I would recognise a piece of paper as a word processor more than a green wavy box with seagulls
[09:49] <holycow> Warbo, disagree
[09:49] <LostFrog> Has anyone had their network card identified as eth4 instead of eth0?
[09:49] <holycow> ms office doesn't use paper or any other litteral iconography
[09:49] <holycow> as it stands current icons are beyond ugly
[09:49] <orbish> sudo -i, i see what that does, but now it's not finding the command... really weird
[09:49] <harisund> Chu: what problem?
[09:49] <Warbo> holycow: I haven't seen Ubuntu's default icons since I ran the install CD....
[09:50] <SilverMonk> hey i'm having a problem with sound
[09:50] <eyequeue> i've had a eth0, eth1, and eth2, but never eth4
[09:50] <SilverMonk> im running dapperdrake
[09:50] <holycow> *nod* no biggie was curious thank you
[09:50] <IdleOne> I'm getting a bunch of GPG error when running apt-get update. How can I fix this?
[09:50] <POVaddct> drbashir: a partially broken disk is likely to break completely. i'd say don't use it.
[09:50] <Warbo> IdleOne: Do you use external repositories
[09:50] <Warbo> ?
[09:50] <Acidfk> what's is the problem with the sound?
[09:50] <SilverMonk> im not getting any :p
[09:50] <IdleOne> Warbo, as in not ubuntu? no I dont
[09:51] <eyequeue> apt-key (8)          - APT key management utility
[09:51] <Warbo> IdleOne: Hmm, because Ubuntu's GPG keys are installed by default
[09:51] <drbashir> POVaddct, but want to try to repair it (its making a ticking sound)
[09:51] <mopflite> hmm - two dapper xserver-xorg-core updates today?
[09:51] <Acidfk> yes but if u agrre a repository in the sources.list
[09:51] <ugarit> How does one go about adding application to the "Applications" menu on the top left of Gnome?
[09:51] <LostFrog> I need to figure out how to change my ethers to eth0 and eth1.. It will blow the other techs minds if I leave it like this.. Any ideas?
[09:51] <Acidfk> i dont think so
[09:51] <IdleOne> Warbo, well I havent cjanged anything in months except for updates and upgrades and now getting GPG error
[09:52] <Warbo> ugarit: Check out Applications>Accessories>Alacarte
[09:52] <IdleOne> changed*
[09:52] <harisund> ugarit: if you want to manually add you can use an application called Alacarte Menu Editor
[09:52] <SilverMonk> so many people have had this sound problem but nobody has provided a solution to it
[09:52] <eyequeue> mopflite, /topic
[09:52] <ugarit> harisund: thanks
[09:52] <beniib> Hi - I can't resolve domain names in Ubuntu unless I ping them first. Has anyone had a similar problem?
[09:52] <mopflite> eyequeue: aha!
[09:52] <FurryNemesis> anyone know how to get my compiz themes back after the upgrade?
[09:52] <POVaddct> drbashir: if you can use smartmontools with that disk, do it to get an idea how broken it is
[09:52] <Warbo> IdleOne: Should be easy to add the keys (System>Admin>Software Properties), just weird that they aren't there already
[09:52] <eyequeue> !xgl > FurryNemesis
[09:52] <nabil2199> anyone from morocco?
[09:52] <eyequeue> FurryNemesis, try there
[09:53] <SilverMonk> does anyone know how to fix sound in ubuntu?
[09:53] <drbashir> POVaddct, thx
[09:53] <erUSUL> !sound
[09:53] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:53] <phatmonkey> how do i unmount an nfs volume that has gone down? anything i do with it (even umount) just locks up the shell
[09:53] <phreakys> !flash
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <Warbo> FurryNemesis: When you say Compiz Themes, is that just colours, or has it got a more complete theming system yet?
[09:53] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, have you read the man page?
[09:54] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, for what?!
[09:54] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, umount
[09:54] <LostFrog> Hmm.. maybe alias.
[09:54] <holycow> has anyone had the experience of a combo drive suddenly refusing to burn cd but still able to burn dvds?
[09:54] <nabil2199> SILVERMONK>>it might just be a module issue for some old sound card
[09:55] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, aah, i thought the -f switch did a similar thing to mount -f -o remount
[09:55] <ubuntu`> Hello. I have a huge problem. I run Dapper and the system updated the xorg core component today. Now X won't start. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but it didn't help. What can I do now?
[09:55] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, umount: /store: device is busy
[09:55] <phatmonkey> hm
[09:56] <drbashir> POVaddct, huh, just installed smartmontools, but the cmdline to start it is not 'smartmontools' ?
[09:56] <jbroome> phatmonkey: make sure you're not in the /store dir anywhere
[09:56] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, of course, you may still have troubles with hard vs soft interrupts (mount option for nfs)
[09:56] <sethk> drbashir, smartctl, I think
[09:56] <phatmonkey> jbroome, i can't, the shell locks up if i cd to /store!
[09:56] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, if so, try the other one with future mounts
[09:56] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix > ubuntu`
[09:56] <POVaddct> drbashir: look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools
[09:56] <jbroome> phatmonkey: no, you need to be *out* of /store for a umount to work
[09:56] <looktj> ubuntu: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[09:57] <drbashir> sethk, thx, POVaddct I think I found the 2 cmds in synaptic (I installed using apt)
[09:57] <drbashir> thx
[09:57] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, use one of those gui terminals, then you can hit that x in the corner
[09:57] <phatmonkey> jbroome, yes i know, i'm just saying there's no way to get in ;)
[09:57] <POVaddct> phatmonkey: lsof /store | less
[09:57] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, yes, that's what i'm doing. what can i do now then?
[09:57] <FatDarrel> anyone run XGL ?
[09:58] <eyequeue> FatDarrel, not here
[09:58] <phatmonkey> POVaddct, seems to lock up the shell... unless it takes a while!
[09:58] <eyequeue> !anyone > FatDarrel
[09:58] <POVaddct> phatmonkey: hmm
[09:58] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[09:58] <eyequeue> !xgl > FatDarrel
[09:58] <kyja> my connection failed :/
[09:58] <kyja> I never was able to get my bcm4306 to work with anything other than fwcutter. Is there ever going to be hope I can get 54M out of this? I am right now stuck at 11M
[09:58] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, is hard mount default then?
[09:59] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, iirc, but it has been a while
[09:59] <FatDarrel> how stable is XGL ?
[09:59] <eyequeue> !xgl > FatDarrel
[09:59] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, how annoying. is there anything i can do now apart from reboot?
[09:59] <eyequeue> FatDarrel, this is NOT the channel for it
[09:59] <tiede> I need help w/ banshee. I am following thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202464&page=9 and I ran into this error: configure: error: The Recommendation plugin requires Banshee 0.11.0-cvs or better. Please pass --disable-recommendation to configure.
[09:59] <FatDarrel> eyequeue, found it
[10:00] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, sadly, that was the only option i could find, back when
[10:00] <sethk> phatmonkey, the lsof will complete, if that's what you mean.
[10:00] <tiede> is it safe to pass --disable-recommendation to the line?
[10:00] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, change fstab if needed, for future mounts
[10:00] <sethk> phatmonkey, or did I misread the question about something hung?
[10:00] <eyequeue> sethk, the mount / umount is hung
[10:01] <tiede> anyone can help with banshee???
[10:01] <sethk> eyequeue, ah, that is one case where you may have to reboot to clear
[10:01] <eyequeue> sethk, when the remote nfsd dies
[10:01] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, i have many machines with this share open. ouch, this'll be a right pain
[10:01] <sethk> eyequeue, although, usually leaving the phantom umount around doesn't hurt anything
[10:01] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, "share" is what?
[10:01] <eyequeue> sethk, nod
[10:01] <phatmonkey> nfs volume sorry!
[10:02] <phatmonkey> it's rather silly that there is no way to solve this
[10:02] <John[1] > Well I'm back and I'm now trying a new install of the dapper server.
[10:02] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, yeah, hard mounts are not a wise default, imo, in this imperfect world
[10:03] <sethk> phatmonkey, you trade off some flexibility in favor of performance
[10:03] <eyequeue> phatmonkey, btw, they prevent timeouts if the machine only dies briefly ... can you ssh in and revive it?
[10:03] <NemesisUK> hi whats with the latest xorg update and it breaking the xserver?
[10:03] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, /topic
[10:03] <LostFrog> ok.. I can't find a way to change eth4 to eth0, etc.
[10:04] <phatmonkey> eyequeue, it's this machine i'm doing it on now... it's only the shell that locks up
[10:04] <brianprogrammer> hey
[10:04] <brianprogrammer> I have ubuntu installed, but it will not boot anymore
[10:05] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?
[10:05] <sethk> phatmonkey, kill the shell process.  or have you tried that?
[10:05] <brianprogrammer> no gui
[10:05] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic
[10:05] <legind> hello there.  I'm trying to make a gnome launcher that opens gnome-terminal and enters a line of text there, but doesn't execute it.  any ideas?
[10:05] <phatmonkey> sethk, just closing it works, it's open in an xterm
[10:05] <phatmonkey> or gnome-terminal or whatever this thing is
[10:06] <NemesisUK> eyequeue, this is the ubuntu channel so whats wrong with asking the question?
[10:06] <FurryNemesis> !xgl
[10:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:06] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, /topic, why should we type repeatedly, ppl can read
[10:07] <orbish> checking for gcc... no   same with cc/cl
[10:07] <orbish> quick fixes?
[10:07] <eyequeue> NemesisUK, ops place things in the /topic for that reason, there are close to 900 in here
[10:07] <holycow> *blink*
[10:07] <holycow> nero has a debian package installer
[10:07] <holycow> well that is helpfull
[10:07] <NemesisUK> ok sorry my mistake
[10:08] <eyequeue> orbish, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:08] <micahcowan> eyequeue, a number of people new to Ubuntu, coming to this channel for support may not know what "X" is, or that that's what's broken.
[10:08] <orbish> thanks pal
[10:08] <micahcowan> could someone perhaps improve the sentence in topic?
[10:08] <eyequeue> micahcowan, hence the referral to /topic
[10:08] <micahcowan> That's my point: /topic is nowhere near clear enough.
[10:09] <Minty> Warbogot 64 bit install :) and on same grub as 32 bit :)
[10:09] <eyequeue> micahcowan, when someone doesn't, well, example: <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, won't boot?  or just no gui?  <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, quite different!  /topic
[10:09] <Warbo> Minty: You have all entries for both versions? Cool
[10:09] <Vinicius_> will ubuntu edgy come with soft-modem support /on-the-fly/?
[10:09] <Minty> warbu yes
[10:09] <brianprogrammer> so to get my gui working again what should I do?
[10:09] <eyequeue> micahcowan, we do still have humans in here too, heh
[10:10] <Minty> automati is avaiable for 64 bit ???
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Vinicius_: depends on the softmodem, and what the linux kernel supports.
[10:10] <micahcowan> eyequeue, yes, but my point is, pointing someone at /topic is useless, if /topic itself is quite unclear.
[10:10] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, follow the commands given at that url
[10:10] <holycow> Vinicius_, how can it? those are microsoft modems requiring windows drivers
[10:10] <Ross> !proftpd
[10:10] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[10:10] <holycow> do you expect ubuntu to find and package up all windows drivers for you?
[10:10] <micahcowan> Having it refer to a broken GUI instead of or in addition to X might help new users.
[10:10] <Warbo> Minty: I must be stuck in the dark ages, when leeches were used to cure all ailments and GRUB was installed to partitions....
[10:10] <nekostar> ~_~
[10:10] <nekostar> so whats the deal
[10:10] <Warbo> Minty: I think it is
[10:10] <Ross> how in the hell do i login with root permissions on my ubuntu box?
[10:11] <nekostar> dapper is bloated all to he11
[10:11] <orbish> eyequeue: that worked, thanks a bunch
[10:11] <qch> Ross: use sudo
[10:11] <Warbo> Ross: You log in as a regular user then use sudo
[10:11] <nekostar> and the xorg bug
[10:11] <eyequeue> orbish, no prob
[10:11] <Ross> through ftp?
[10:11] <nekostar> bad bad
[10:11] <Warbo> !root > Ross
[10:11] <Vinicius_> holycow, fyrestrtr: But I can put some softmodem to work on ubuntu, right?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> Ross: you login as your normal user, then you use the power of sudo.
[10:11] <npster> Where do I get themes/skins for Xubuntu ?
[10:11] <LostFrog> Ross: login as yourself and sudo.
[10:11] <docgnome> How do I remove network interfaces from ifconfig?
[10:11] <Minty> Wrabo actually it decteded the exisiting grun on the MBR and just asked if i wanted to add to it
[10:11] <harisund> Does anyone know of a chess client in Ubuntu (or Linux) that will allow me to play chess over LAN with another computer???
[10:11] <Warbo> npster: XFCE uses GTK2, so gnome-look.org
[10:11] <eyequeue> micahcowan, i'm not sure if it's near the character limit, but you could ask an op to change it, i'm not one
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> Ross: you DO NOT want to enable root access via FTP.
[10:11] <nekostar> docgnome,
[10:11] <Ross> so use ssh to transfer files?
[10:11] <npster> Warbo: Tanks
[10:11] <eyequeue> docgnome, typically sudo ifdown whatever
[10:12] <holycow> Vinicius_, don't count on it.  you can try yes
[10:12] <nekostar> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <Warbo> Minty: WOW! I really didn't know that happened! (mind you, it has been ages since I had 2 Linuxes installed)
[10:12] <Minty> but now have two sawp partitions
[10:12] <looktj> !xorgfix
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <harisund> !fix
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <docgnome> it's not in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <nekostar> or system > administration > networking
[10:12] <looktj> !fix:hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:12] <eyequeue> docgnome, sudo ifdown eth0
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> looktj: /topic
[10:12] <Warbo> !xorgbugfix
[10:12] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[10:12] <harisund> looktj: I thought you added that 'fix' to Ubotu a long while back? It got erased?
[10:12] <docgnome> eyequeue: won't that interface come back after i restart though?
[10:13] <harisund> Does anybody use Ubuntu for gaming at all?
[10:13] <NickGarvey> harisund: probably
[10:13] <sethk> harisund, sure, some do
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> harisund: I do, sometimes.
[10:13] <eyequeue> docgnome, if  you have it configured as auto in interfaces(5), yes
[10:13] <sethk> harisund, but linux, in general, isn't the easy way to do gaming
[10:13] <Warbo> harisund: A little, but I have only bought one commercial game for Ubuntu (and it doesn't work)
[10:13] <harisund> hmm.. do you know of good games that are multiplayer capable over the local lan?
[10:13] <docgnome> eyequeue: it's not in the interfaces file at all
[10:13] <eyequeue> !anybody > harisund
[10:13] <eyequeue> docgnome, how did it come up then?
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> harisund: tremulous is a good one.
[10:14] <ravenous> any ID Software game, quake's, doom's
[10:14] <docgnome> eyequeue: vmware put it there... I don't know how it did it.
[10:14] <ravenous> ut2004
[10:14] <harisund> ah yes ... tremulous .. let's my Windows friends play as well fyrestrtr, but can I create a stand alone server? I am behind a LAN, but we don't have internet as of now .....
[10:14] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> harisund: sure, you just have to launch the server part.
[10:14] <eyequeue> docgnome, vmware isn't supported here, i guess you're on your own unless there's a support channel for it
[10:15] <brianprogrammer> The link about x being broken after an update says that there has been an update pushed out since?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: that's the bridge adapter for your vmware guests.
[10:15] <paladinhugo> hello all
[10:15] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, many hours ago, though propagation takes time, most mirrors now have it
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> brianprogrammer: just update your sources, and see !xorgbugfix
[10:15] <SKossu> Bah :(, easiest way to install linux source? I sat for like 30 mins answering yes, no when trying to config it
[10:15] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: Aye. I know. I don't know how to get rid of it though.
[10:15] <nekostar> x was broken last night
[10:15] <welp> how did you guys screw up X today?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> docgnome: uninstall vmware?
[10:15] <paladinhugo> I've compiled kernel 2.6.16 and now I can't start X.. can anyone help?
[10:15] <brianprogrammer> so what do i run? sudo apt-get update?
[10:15] <docgnome> fyrestrtr: heh.
[10:15] <eyequeue> welp, /topic
[10:15] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > Paladine
[10:16] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > paladinhugo
[10:16] <NickGarvey> Paladine: sorry
[10:16] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, unrelated.  /topic
[10:16] <Warbo> SKossu: start with "make oldconfig" to set it up like your current setup, then use "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig" to tweak the settings
[10:16] <looktj> hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:16] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, and update then an upgrade
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> paladinhugo: why are you compiling a kernel?
[10:16] <Minty> I want to free up some some space from my Windows partion should i do in windows or can I do it in linux and if so what program do I need ?
[10:16] <eyequeue> brianprogrammer, s/and/an/
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Minty: do it from windows
[10:17] <SKossu> thanks warbo
[10:17] <paladinhugo> fyrestrtr: to increase performance
[10:17] <Warbo> Minty: If you have Windows then use it. Linux NTFS support is either hard to set up, or dodgy
[10:17] <Minty> k
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> paladinhugo: in what way?
[10:17] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, what exactly does 2.6.16 do that you need?
[10:17] <phatmonkey> is upgrading safe now, what with all the X problems?
[10:17] <paladinhugo> I guess nothing
[10:18] <looktj> yes
[10:18] <looktj> phatmonkey: hit ctrl + alt + f1, login. Then you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[10:18] <teacordes> anybody working with 3d modelling/animation applications on ubuntu?
[10:18] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to setup vsftpd.conf file for each user diferent one?
[10:18] <paladinhugo> but I can't start with the old kernel either
[10:18] <phatmonkey> looktj, hehe. i'll leave it for now until the repositories are fixed
[10:18] <Warbo> teacordes: I have dabbled in Blender, but haven't used it for animation
[10:18] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, "can't start" means what?
[10:19] <brianprogrammer> ok thanks for the help, i'll be trying those things
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[10:19] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:19] <paladinhugo> X won't start
[10:19] <teacordes> Warbo: is this compatible with 3ds max formats?
[10:19] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, VERY different.  known issue, see /topic
[10:19] <Warbo> teacordes: I am not sure, hang on
[10:19] <lastent> !pastebin
[10:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:19] <ph8> hi all, i've just installed fglrx and now xine doesn't playback movies properly, anyone come across this problem?
[10:20] <ph8> Also if anyone's running stepmania on ubuntu I'd like to talk to them
[10:20] <ph8> :)
[10:20] <teacordes> ph8: do other video applications still work?
[10:20] <nekostar> huh
[10:20] <ph8> teacordes: playback in VLC is fine
[10:20] <nekostar> sure enough last nights xorg was .3
[10:20] <nekostar> .4 is indeed different
[10:20] <nekostar> sweet
[10:21] <Warbo> teacordes: Hmm, I can't tell right off. I am pretty sure you can get 3ds stuff to work in it, but you may have to convert it to lightwave format or something
[10:21] <nekostar> is anyone here who is in charge of repositories ?
[10:21] <teacordes> ph8: dunno then. maybe just check if you can see anything in xine conifg
[10:21] <jariep1__> hi all
[10:21] <paladinhugo> does it tell how to fix the problem?
[10:21] <John[1] > Okay, I'm at the command prompt in dapper server what is the command to update the software and get the ubuntu desktop?
[10:21] <eyequeue> nekostar, no, but propagation takes time, is that the issue?
[10:21] <teacordes> Warbo: kk. i will check it out then
[10:21] <teacordes> Warbo: thx
[10:21] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, the url there does, yes
[10:21] <nekostar> John[1] , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> John[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <nekostar> :)
[10:21] <nekostar> eyequeue, mm
[10:22] <nekostar> no i was wondering if it was a roundrobin geo setup
[10:22] <paladinhugo> I'll check it out
[10:22] <frances_> hello cannot get monitor to go past 640x480 have redid xorg but no other settings avail
[10:22] <frances_> how can I fix this?
[10:22] <Tallu> Uhm. I'll be starting to use ubuntu tomorrow. I've experience with debian from before so umm.. anything I should read up on to make me 'more prepared' for the experience? (The school uses ubuntu)
[10:22] <eyequeue> nekostar, most mirrors should have it .... some are rr yes, some are single hosts
[10:22] <slimz> is there any way to install ubuntu without starting up the live cd?
[10:22] <nekostar>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main
[10:22] <jariep1__> I have a question about understanding the significance of localhost localdomain... I have a domain at mysubdomain.dyndns.org how do I include in my system
[10:22] <nekostar> for instance that eyequeue
[10:22] <lamego> Tallu, help.ubuntu.com , the official guide :)
[10:22] <eyequeue> slimz, the alternatecd, yes
[10:22] <nekostar> that pushes to my geo local server ?
[10:22] <Warbo> Tallu: Make sure you understand sudo, that is a big difference from Debian
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Tallu: yeah, ubuntu is not debian, so don't try your debianisms in ubuntu -- like trying to install debian debs. Ask first, before you try your known debian solution.
[10:23] <nekostar> i was thinking of talking to one of my hosts and seeing if i could get a deal on bw
[10:23] <frances_> how to reconfigure resolution???
[10:23] <nekostar> or mebbie a local college
[10:23] <slimz> eyequeue: there isnt a command on the regular desktop cd to start the setup without booting to live?
[10:23] <orbish> where can i edit modules.conf
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !fixres
[10:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:23] <Tallu> Warbo: hmm ok, no root usage then :)
[10:23] <eyequeue> nekostar, "host" tells me there are two there
[10:23] <Tallu> fyrestrtr: yeah, that's what I've gathered thus far.. :) I'll check out the help.ubuntu.com thanks
[10:23] <nekostar> eyequeue, eh?
[10:23] <paladinhugo> I'm using the live cd
[10:23] <holycow> heh
[10:23] <holycow> i need to get off of irc
[10:23] <nekostar> lost me a tad sorry
[10:23] <eyequeue> slimz, no, i think there is no room, it has to have all those apps etc :)
[10:23] <paladinhugo> can I download the .deb file, start with the old kernel and install the deb file?
[10:24] <holycow> i just said to someone 'you are the awesome' instead of 'thank you'
[10:24] <eyequeue> nekostar, "host us.archive.ubuntu.com"    handy command :)
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> holycow: atleast you didn't say you are teh awesome
[10:24] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[10:24] <Paradoxx> which beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:24] <joab> services that are checked in the services window will start at next boot too, right? i need to reboot remotely but need to make sure i can reach it after too :)
[10:24] <John[1] > Well I remembered the commands, now let me see if they work.
[10:24] <bambi^> Hi. Im trying to install Rubyonrails: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails. But when im trying to update gems i get following message: "Gem::GemNotFoundException"
[10:24] <teacordes> Warbo: is there any way to get the interface more similar to 3ds?
[10:24] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb, yeah
[10:24] <nekostar> u mean the 146.137.96.7 // .15 ?
[10:24] <Ross> how do i open gedit with root privledges?
[10:25] <orbish> anyone know where i can find modules.conf or a modprobe.conf?
[10:25] <Warbo> holycow: I found some old letters while I was clearing out a desk for a new computer, and I told my brother to "delete" them :)
[10:25] <Paradoxx> Ross: in terminal type sudo gedit
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> Ross: gksudo gedit
[10:25] <eyequeue> Ross, sudo gedit foo
[10:25] <Ross> rgr
[10:25] <nekostar> XD
[10:25] <paladinhugo> thx
[10:25] <nekostar> seems so
[10:25] <paladinhugo> brb
[10:25] <nekostar> thats probably the same server eyequeue
[10:25] <xeal> 'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?
[10:25] <nekostar> mm
[10:25] <holycow> Warbo, hehe
[10:25] <Paradoxx> which beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:25] <xeal> I've googled but didn't come up with anything
[10:25] <eyequeue> nekostar, yeah, though 2 ip addys
[10:25] <Warbo> teacordes: Blender can use 4 views at once, although I can't work out how to set it up. Other than that, it takes a lot of getting used to :)
[10:25] <nekostar> eyequeue, yeh
[10:26] <John[1] > It prompted me for my cde and I can see my network card flashing
[10:26] <nekostar> someone should make a load distrobution proggie etc
[10:26] <nekostar> mmm
[10:26] <ddiinn> hey everyone, i have recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, an acer 4100 series, and then i installed winXP, now when i go in the live cd and try to restore the grub menu, like i read i should do in the ubuntu unofficel guide, the live CD does not let me access or didnt mount my linux partition, when i try to enter it it gives me error saying it cannot access the device, what should id do? is there any other way to restore grub?
[10:26] <nekostar> i assume its on gbit eyequeue ?
[10:26] <nekostar> have any idea what kinda bw they use?
[10:26] <eyequeue> nekostar, anyway, i fetched 10.4 from there hours ago, if that's helpful to know
[10:26] <teacordes> Warbo: i see... you cam from 3ds too?
[10:26] <nekostar> eyequeue, im way past that
[10:27] <eyequeue> nekostar, no, i think you may want to talk to someone not in this channel for those answers ... post to ubuntuforums?
[10:27] <nekostar> im thinking about getting a repository for ubuntu
[10:27] <nekostar> heh
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> ddiinn: your disk is probably mounted read only. Type 'mount' from a terminal, and tell me what device it is, and where its mounted.
[10:27] <teacordes> Warbo: ever tried 3ds max in wine or virtual machine?
[10:27] <nekostar> tried the forums a while back
[10:27] <nekostar> never got responce
[10:27] <harisund> Is there a way I can save a java applet from the web for offline viewing?
[10:27] <Warbo> teacordes: I came from Imaginge mainly, but I have a little 3DS experience (I haven't done anything 3D for a while, and I keep having to re-learn Blender's interface whenever I use it because it hasn't sunk in yet)
[10:27] <ddiinn> fyrestrtr: ok, hold on a moment, thanks for the replay
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> harisund: its in your cache, just fetch it from there.
[10:27] <Warbo> teacordes: After seeing how slow Flash MX runs in Wine I would shudder to think of 3DS Max
[10:28] <iratik> Can anyone tell me why user "www-data" shows 'date' as EDT and all other users show 'date' as 'CDT'?
[10:28] <harisund> fyrestrtr: where does firefox store its cache on Ubuntu? On Windows I know it is at C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Ap........
[10:28] <gimmulf> Is there any setting in System => Preferences => Login Screen that can prevent users from ssh:ing in?
[10:28] <amee2k> are there known problems on x64 with the xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 update? it didn't detect my video card (GeForce 6600) anymore after. i downgraded to a previous version (0ubuntu10) to temporarily work around the issue. is there a real fix for this problem?
[10:28] <Paradoxx> how do i install the dual processor head header files?
[10:28] <harisund> gimmulf: I doubt that. You could edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config instead to disallow certain users.
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> harisund: ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:28] <teacordes> Warbo: *shudders i think i will check it out in a win2000 vm
[10:28] <eyequeue> gimmulf, set their shell in /etc/passwd
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> gimmulf: turn off the ssh server.
[10:29] <harisund> fyrestrtr: ah ok thanks .. will have a look ..
[10:29] <Paradoxx> rather, does ubuntu take advantage of dual processors out of the box??
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> Paradoxx: no, you have to install the smp kernel.
[10:29] <harisund> Paradoxx: I think the Ub kernel comes with SMP enabled by default?
[10:29] <harisund> fyrestrtr: it doesn't?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> I don't believe it does.
[10:29] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  well the problem is that i cant scp or ssh from my other local machine into this ubuntu box
[10:29] <gimmulf> but i can ping it and
[10:29] <Paradoxx> fyrestrtr: how do i install smp kernel?
[10:29] <ddiinn> ok so the exact error i get is not 'cannot access' it is 'unable to mound, device /dev/sda2 is not removable, could not execute pmount'
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> gimmulf: did you install openssh-server ?
[10:29] <LostFrog> The standard kernel is not SMP
[10:29] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  yes
[10:29] <ddiinn> mount*
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> Paradoxx: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:30] <Thunderpants> 686 for smp?
[10:30] <harisund> ah you are right fyrestrtr, that command is the first thing to do.. didn't realize the default is 386 :)
[10:30] <mtemmerm> 'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?
[10:30] <Paradoxx> fyrestrtr: thx
[10:30] <mitja> How do I disable a module in kernel that is currently in use and can't be removed momentarily?
[10:30] <sethk> mitja, you don't
[10:31] <mitja> sethk: so how do I do it?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mitja: to disable it would mean 'make it unusable'. You can't disable something being used, otherwise it'd be enabled.
[10:31] <sethk> mitja, I don't know that you can.  what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mitja: you can unload it, that would disable it.
[10:32] <Paradoxx> what beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:32] <mitja> fyrestrtr: how do I disable it?
[10:32] <mitja> unload, sorry
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> mitja: disable the unloading?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> mitja: sudo rmmod nameofmodule
[10:32] <Thunderpants> Paradoxx, google dapper guide
[10:32] <ddiinn> Parradox the unofficel ubuntu guide is great ubuntuguide.com
[10:32] <sutabi> Anyone know where I can find kernel-build-2.6.15.26-386.deb ?
[10:32] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  what could be wrong? it has worked before
[10:32] <mitja> fyrestrtr: module is in use
[10:32] <ddiinn> sorry that ubuntuguide.org
[10:33] <sutabi> I can only find up to 2.4.X on the wiki
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> mitja: find out what is using it, what module is it?
[10:33] <mitja> fyrestrtr: ipv6
[10:33] <mitja> lsof ?
[10:33] <Sputn1k> Hello, how to change character encoding in gedit?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: I have 2.6.15 here
[10:33] <easytiger> how do i increase the number of columns at the console?
[10:33] <FatDarrel> sparkleytone, LANG=?
[10:33] <Thunderpants> Paradoxx, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide
[10:33] <npster> How do I install a GTK 2.x theme on Xubuntu ???
[10:33] <javiolo> hi
[10:34] <Paradoxx> Thunderpants: thx
[10:34] <eyequeue> npster, isn't gtk the GNOME toolkit?
[10:34] <sutabi> fyrestrtr know of a way I can get alhold of it I need to to rebuild my ndiswrapper
[10:34] <javiolo> Im trying to run the ubuntu desktop livecd on a pentium 3 with 128mb of ram and takes too much to load everythhing, any idea ?
[10:34] <mitja> fyrestrtr: lsof outputs nothing
[10:34] <npster> eyequeue: I don't understand
[10:34] <ubuntu__> whats up guys
[10:35] <eyequeue> npster, XFCE != GNOME
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> !ipv6 > mitja
[10:35] <jordan_> i just updated my ubuntu system and my xorg server will not start
[10:35] <npster> eyequeue: someone told me to go to gnome-look.org, where should I go
[10:35] <jordan_> can someone help?
[10:35] <lamego> jordan_, read the channel topic
[10:35] <eyequeue> jordan_, /topic
[10:35] <eyequeue> npster, no clue, i don't know much of xfce
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386 should get it for you. You most likely will also need the headers.
[10:36] <eyequeue> !themes
[10:36] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> npster: http://gnome-look.org <-- there
[10:36] <javiolo> is there any ubuntu that cames with fluxbox ?
[10:36] <eyequeue> npster, the bot only seems to know of kde and gnome
[10:36] <foolip> greetings. how can I reconfigure the network, like I did when I first installed ubuntu, from a console. there used to be a base-config, but that appears to be removed
[10:36] <lamego> javiolo, you can install it...
[10:36] <jvai> xubuntu.... it has it's own libs.. from what i read...
[10:36] <javiolo> lamego yep I know
[10:36] <ubuntu__> quick question, i just got the shipit cd's for kubuntu, but i didn't get the ubuntu/xubuntu cd's with it... do they send out more then one package at a time? where can i go to let them know im missing some? also, i like kubuntu's interface better then my ubuntu, can i do an apt-get install kubuntu and get kubuntu on my computer without having to reinstall everything and losing all my files and settings?
[10:36] <NickGarvey> javiolo: fluxbuntu might work, but I would suggest just doing an ubuntu server install then apt-get install fluxbox
[10:36] <Flannel> jvai: xfce uses GTK (which is what gnome uses)
[10:36] <paladinhugo> hello again
[10:36] <javiolo> nickgarvey ok
[10:36] <lamego> jvai, xubuntu shares the same libs from ubuntu, except for the xfce related apps
[10:36] <sutabi> fyrestrtr problem is my ndiswrapper broke and I only have wifi pci on that pc, know where I can download that?
[10:37] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, no, but close
[10:37] <npster> eyequeue: I'll go to xfce-look.org
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__: if you order kubuntu, that's all you get. Not the entire set.
[10:37] <ugarit> anyone know of a good mpeg editor?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> ubuntu__: you can do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:37] <yyy> hi
[10:37] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, the package is named kubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <jordan_> thank you
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: download what exactly?
[10:37] <jvai> ok.... but.. i would think it would have the same apps, by default
[10:37] <paladinhugo> I've applied the patch but synaptic tells me that there is a new version of xserver-xorg-core
[10:37] <sutabi> fyrestrtr the update
[10:37] <ubuntu__> it wont delete all my files and settings right? just get the kde desktop basically?
[10:37] <yyy> last nicght i installed some upgrade of X and now i cannot log in to my system
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: you don't have any network on that machine?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> ubuntu__: yup
[10:37] <ubuntu__> ok good :)
[10:37] <npster> How do I install it ? The theme ?
[10:37] <sutabi> fyrestrtr no
[10:37] <ubuntu__> kubuntu-desktop?
[10:38] <yyy> i m using live cd now
[10:38] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it will just pull in packages
[10:38] <jordan_> and thank you creators of irrsi and lynx
[10:38] <ubuntu__> gotcha :)
[10:38] <ubuntu__> thanks for the help guys
[10:38] <NickGarvey> yup
[10:38] <frfx2> i have a dapper cd.how do i get the server install?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: if you install it on another machine, just copy the .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives to the other machine.
[10:38] <dudus> my keyboard works fine under x but it's not ok on cli... anyone?
[10:38] <sutabi> fyrestrtr alright thanks
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: if you don't have an other ubuntu machine, just search for the deb file on the net, and download it (like say on a Windows machine) and copy them over.
[10:38] <eyequeue> frfx2, the server cd :/  there are three dapper cds per arch
[10:39] <mokopila> hi my x servers messed up, i dont care if i have to reinstall the system all i whant is to back up my documents. how can i do that without a graphical interface_
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: use the alternate install cd
[10:39] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > mokomull
[10:39] <eyequeue> mokopila, /topic
[10:39] <NickGarvey> mokomull: (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)
[10:39] <mopflite> !xorgbug > mopflite
[10:39] <NickGarvey> oh wrong person
[10:39] <NickGarvey> mokopila: : (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > mopflite
[10:40] <mitja> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:40] <profoX`> !xorgbug > profoX`
[10:40] <mokopila> thanks
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[10:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:40] <frfx2> is there no way to get the text mode install from the normal ubuntu cd? in breezy it was possible
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> !livecd
[10:40] <raveneye> Reboot after an X reroll isnt /etc/init.d/gdm stop start not enough? or just ctrl alt backspace?
[10:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[10:40] <Pensacola> )
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: no, there isn't :)
[10:40] <orbish> what's the best way to see if i have a sound driver built into my kernel?
[10:40] <eyequeue> frfx2, things have changed sonce breezy days
[10:41] <L1> Can I discuss a laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: play some music.
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: if you hear something, its working.
[10:41] <IcemanV9> is ubuntuforums slow to respond? anyone have this problem?
[10:41] <orbish> fyrestrtr: no sound, that's why i'm going through this trouble
[10:41] <LostFrog> lol
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: depends what kind of sound card you have.
[10:41] <ENE|Toxic> Anyone know if/how I can find out buss speed and some information about the memory?
[10:41] <orbish> intel8x0 is the module i need
[10:42] <IcemanV9> orbish: you might need to replace a hearing-aid battery. ;)
[10:42] <orbish> har har har :p
[10:42] <frfx2> eyequeue: if i press "escape" in the install menu, i get "boot:" i can't input "server" or something? :s
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> ENE|Toxic: memory information is free or cat /proc/meminfo -- bus speed and other jazz can be had with lshw
[10:42] <orbish> it's onboard audio with optical out... so it's a pain
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: nope.
[10:42] <eyequeue> frfx2, try it if you like
[10:42] <ENE|Toxic> fyrestrtr: k, thanks
[10:42] <eyequeue> frfx2, i think those days have gone
[10:43] <eyequeue> frfx2, why not just grab the alternate or server cd for your arch?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: only the alternate cd provides that that kind of love and tenderness
[10:43] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I need to remove FireFox. Can I do that from Synaptic or do I have to do smoething more?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: you can remove it from synaptic, that will take care of it.
[10:43] <eyequeue> frfx2, keep in mind the livecd has tons and tons of bytes tied up being the livecd
[10:43] <frfx2> eyequeue: but i have an idea! if i install breezy server and i upgrade?
[10:43] <josh__> got a problem
[10:43] <E-Jey_> Hi
[10:44] <eyequeue> frfx2, that would work as well
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: it would be faster to download the alternate cd.
[10:44] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[10:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:44] <josh__> after putting in the kubuntu cd and checking out the live version, i went to take it out and then the the kubuntu-desktop update... but my gdm is now screwed up again
[10:44] <eyequeue> frfx2, fyrestrtr has a good point, a dist-upgrade would be a huge d/l
[10:44] <josh__> the last time this happened it was because of my ati drivers still be loaded instead of the nvidia ones
[10:45] <josh__> but i just checked and those are the same (they are the crrect ones
[10:45] <E-Jey_> I'd to make a simple html page with thumbnails of pictures. There are a lot of tools for that under windows. Is there a similar tool for ubuntu?
[10:45] <frfx2> eyequeue: i know how to upgrade :) bigger than an 700mb iso?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> orbish: I don't know anything about optical out, but general sound card problems can be diagnosed easily. Find out what modules are running with lsmod
[10:45] <josh__> but the error says no device/screennot found
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: a few hundred I would imagine.
[10:45] <eyequeue> frfx2, obviously it depends how many packages are installed, but i'd say definitely yes
[10:45] <sethk> E-Jey_, html is the same in windows and in linux
[10:45] <psneaveill> howdy
[10:45] <eyequeue> josh__, as in /topic?
[10:45] <josh__> im trying to do a kubutnu upgrade right now... will that reenable and fix the /etc/X11 config?
[10:45] <sethk> E-Jey_, if you really mean something specific to IIS, that's different
[10:46] <L1> Can you help me with a Dapper laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:46] <sparkleytone> btw, xserver-xorg-core package is fixed.  in case you want to update the topic
[10:46] <John[1] > Well it looked like it made all the updaes with no errors, now lets see if I get a ubuntu desktop
[10:46] <eyequeue> josh__, see /topic for the x problem
[10:46] <SKossu> Last Question hopefully, did ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build but it gives the error ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links    whats wrong? :S
[10:46] <josh__> oh
[10:46] <josh__> yeah
[10:46] <josh__> exactly
[10:46] <josh__> problem though
[10:46] <sethk> E-Jey_, best thing to do is to bring up a web page with thumbnails and examine the source
[10:46] <josh__> i cant see the whole topic
[10:46] <jvai> eye of gnome & gthumb image viewer
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> josh__: type /topic
[10:46] <josh__> i am using the f2 screen with irssi
[10:46] <eyequeue> josh__, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[10:46] <E-Jey_> I mean a tool to create a the simple HTML page automatic. Under windows I always used ACDsee for that
[10:46] <josh__> yeah... doesn't help because i have no browser right now
[10:47] <eyequeue> josh__, use lynx
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: the 5 link depth has been reached.
[10:47] <josh__> lynx...?
[10:47] <frfx2> eyequeue: ok..i will download the alternate..thanks for your help.but you said there were 3cds.which is the 3rd?
[10:47] <eyequeue> josh__, sudo apt-get install lynx, you will need it for next time
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: apt-cache search gallery -- pick one :)
[10:47] <eyequeue> lynx (1)             - a general purpose distributed information browser for the World Wide Web
[10:47] <josh__> ok
[10:47] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: What should I do? im a newbie :(
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: try galrey
[10:47] <DarkRain> Hello, x is rather broken, I followed the link in topic, and it says there is a fix released. wondering what this fix is... since yeeeah. I have no computer at the moment
[10:47] <josh__> dont run off... i might need to ask you some more questions ;P
[10:47] <John[1] > I did the install ubuntu desktop command and rebooted, now I'm back to the command prompt.  Any ideas on what could have did wrong?
[10:47] <eyequeue> frfx2, livecd, alternatecd, servercd
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: why are you even running that command?
[10:47] <eyequeue> frfx2, you may want that server :)
[10:48] <E-Jey_> oke, thanks for the reactions
[10:48] <lamego> John[1] , have you read the topic about the xorg bug ?
[10:48] <John[1] > no
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> DarkRain: fix is circulating among the servers. sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then restart the pc.
[10:48] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: because of: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:48] <SKossu> rt2500.ko failed to build!
[10:48] <josh__> ok i have to wait for my kubuntu-desktop to finish installing
[10:48] <frfx2> eyequeue: what is difference between alternate and server? alternate is just text mode?
[10:48] <josh__> there isn't a chance that will fix the problem will it?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: what are you installing? Module for what?
[10:48] <josh__> going from gnome to kde desktop?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> josh__: what problem?
[10:48] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: patching my wlan
[10:48] <eyequeue> frfx2, alternate allows gui installs, server is just server
[10:49] <DarkRain> fyrestrtr: thanks ill shut down the live disc and check it out
[10:49] <eyequeue> frfx2, server might be smaller, i forget
[10:49] <Flannel> frfx2: server ONLY installs a server, its got a LAMP preconfigure option, and some specialized server kernels.  Alternate can install the desktop, or a text-only thing
[10:49] <josh__> the gdm problem
[10:49] <eyequeue> Flannel!
[10:49] <Flannel> eyequeue!  what?
[10:49] <eyequeue> Flannel, you came up in the CC meeting earlier, but were offline
[10:50] <frfx2> eyequeue+flannel: thanks for your help
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: you might need to pass an argument to the /configure script and tell it to look for the headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-your-kernel-version
[10:50] <eyequeue> Flannel, glad to see you here :)
[10:50] <Flannel> I know, I was there until :10, then my ISP went down for three hours.  Pisses me off, since I don't think I can make it to the next.  You have a log?  It's not posted online yet.
[10:50] <Flannel> eyequeue: woke up early to make it and everything ;)
[10:50] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: Okay, gotta ask my friend for help though, its my first day with Linux so I have no idea what im poking at :P
[10:50] <eyequeue> Flannel, i think you're up for the next one, in ... two weeks, let me see if i do
[10:50] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: thanks for tip though
[10:51] <ruskie_> !non-free
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <ruskie_> !flash
[10:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <Flannel> ruskie_: it's called multiverse in Ubuntu
[10:51] <Flannel> eyequeue: well, I'm up, it's in the middle of the day, but I've got class
[10:51] <John[1] > what commands do I need to issue to get my software updated and then be able to install the desktop in dapper?
[10:52] <josh__> so all we have to do is a distupgrade to fix the gdm?
[10:52] <Flannel> John[1] : what is your current setup?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> John[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <Flannel> unless you already have ubuntu-desktop (of some sort) installed, in which case install that first, then update
[10:53] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[10:53] <eyequeue> Flannel, dcc it to you?  email?
[10:53] <John[1] > is that all one command
[10:53] <L1> Can you help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:53] <josh__> buy a non hp
[10:53] <josh__> ;P
[10:54] <josh__> ok im gonna try this dist upgrade thing... ill talk to yall later
[10:54] <OpossumJack> HELP!!!!!!I've just downloaded the last upgrade for x.org and now It doesn't start. It keeps on saying: "No device found"...HELP!!!!
[10:55] <lamego> OpossumJack, read the topic
[10:55] <ruskie_> OpossumJack, topic
[10:55] <strangy> OpossumJack, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[10:55] <janbanan> I have a Microsoft explorer mouse with 5 buttons(one scroll). how do i install this properly? is there any guides
[10:56] <jordanau> i have xserver bak up and running thanks to lynx, irssi, and y'all... Thank you
[10:57] <paladinhugo> I have my X back.. how can I uninstall the latest kernel?
[10:57] <OpossumJack> strangy, thanks a lot... I'm gonna try it right now.
[10:57] <John[1] >  I issued all those commands and it ran through some things and then prompted me for my cd, I put it in and it is now working downloading stuff from the cd.
[10:58] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, sudo dpkg --purge packagename
[10:58] <jordanau> Paladine, what do you mean uninstall latest kernel? is that necessary to completely fix the broken x patch?
[10:58] <lenovo> hello has anyone here performed a pxe installation?
[10:58] <John[1] > Now I get a error that says failed to fetch some some archives and I see a file mismatch error.
[10:58] <eyequeue> jordanau, no, he was messing with the kernel, i guess thinkiing it would be the fix ... you don't need to
[10:58] <paladinhugo> package name with the .deb?
[10:58] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[10:59] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, no, nothing after the _
[10:59] <L1> Can anyone help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:59] <ENE|Toxic> Is there a way I can find out if I'm using 400 or 533Mhz memory? (Othen then in bios | physically looking | /proc/meminfo | lshdw | hwdetect)
[10:59] <jordanau> eyequeue, after downgrading, i just need to avoid uprgrading till i here it is fixed right?
[10:59] <eonox> how do i search for a string in vi?
[10:59] <paladinhugo> I've compiled the kernel and installed kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12_ck12_i386.deb
[10:59] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, package_debianversionubuntuversion.deb, just pacakge
[10:59] <OpossumJack> ufff...
[11:00] <eyequeue> jordanau, yes, though you can let "...ubuntu10.4" install
[11:00] <lamego> eonox, google.com look for a vi quickreference card
[11:00] <pedaz> hallo loom
[11:01] <John[1] > Can I use scp to issue these commands man this gets to be a chor typing all this stuff in.
[11:01] <loom> hey pedaz. english please :)
[11:01] <Minty> can someone please remind me the line so that I can edit my grub file
[11:01] <sethk> John[1] , probably.  you can also use shell loops, make a script file, etc.
[11:01] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, in that example, package name is kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12 for example
[11:01] <paladinhugo> thx
[11:02] <paladinhugo> I've done it already
[11:02] <lenovo> has anyone here performed a pxe install?
[11:02] <SKossu> bah this is too wierd, soon time for windows again
[11:02] <Flannel> lenovo: You read the wiki?
[11:03] <lenovo> yes i need some help with an especific item
[11:04] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:04] <SKossu> rt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours
[11:04] <John[1] > I di those commands you gave me and I'm still not getting a ubuntu desktop.
[11:04] <Flannel> lenovo: what do you need help with?
[11:04] <lenovo> Flannel: i want to install many computers at the same time, but i need them to install new packages...with a kickstart...but the packages dont come by default with the install cd...I think i might need to setup a mirror myself
[11:04] <pedaz> after a recent xserver update it doesn't work anymore. in the xorglog i get the message "no devices detected" and in the next line "Fatal server error: no screens found " What should i do
[11:05] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".
[11:05] <w30> pedaz, me too, help me too!
[11:05] <lamego> lenovo, you could setup an apt proxy
[11:05] <Flannel> lenovo: You can do that, yeah.  Setup a small repository locally, then you'll have LAN access times to those packages.
[11:05] <lenovo> lamego: ok how do i setup the apt proxy
[11:05] <pedaz> w30, i dont know what to do either
[11:06] <lamego> lenovo, I have done it with http replicator, but on the wiki there is a description by using the apt proxy package
[11:06] <John[1] > Now what is the fix for the installing ubuntu desktop on my server?
[11:06] <lenovo> lamego: ok thx...already reading about it
[11:06] <Flannel> John[1] : you have the web repositories enabled, right?
[11:06] <janbanan> How do I install my Microsoft explorer 5-button mouse?
[11:06] <w30> pedaz, I tried other xorg.confi files, both nvidia and nv driver setups but alas.
[11:06] <octan_> is ther a tool like kcron for gnome?
[11:07] <John[1] > Well not sure, how can I check?
[11:07] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".
[11:07] <Flannel> John[1] : check your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) for a bunch of uncommented (comments with #) lines with urls in them ;)
[11:07] <alex_> Is the the correct place to come for ubuntu support?
[11:08] <Slaj_R> Can anyone tell me what is the best linux equivalent to programs like Nitro PDF, for combining pdf's into a single file, with page numbers, TOC, etc?
[11:08] <Flannel> alex_: yep
[11:08] <StephenL> Anyone know of a guide for setting up dual monitors on a dual head i810 card?
[11:08] <pedaz> w30,i tried to adjust the BusID of the device but i think that was a rather bad idea
[11:08] <StephenL> Right now it clones to the second monitor but I want it to extend to it.
[11:09] <pedaz> w30, i also tried to change the xorg.config file like you said but it didn't word
[11:09] <alex_> Can anyone help with a problem i am having installing a new video card. I am really new to hardware issues and i think it must be something stupid i am doing
[11:09] <John[1] > I'm a noob, how do I get there from the command prompt?
[11:09] <Flannel> John[1] : nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <Flannel> John[1] : and ctrl-X to exit ;)
[11:10] <mnvl> or, John[1]  cat /path/filename prints a file to screen
[11:10] <pedaz> w30, i also unistalled the nividia-glx and installed it new. as to maybe it didnt communicate right with the new xserver, but that didnt work either
[11:10] <alex_> can anyone give me some help installing a video card
[11:11] <jvai> slaj, u can modify them in open office
[11:11] <psneaveill> Been having a problem with an older ATI video card that I've attempted everything anyone has suggested -- radeon, ATI and the fx* drivers
[11:11] <mnvl> or, John[1]  more /path/filename prints it a screen at a time, and waits for you to press space
[11:11] <psneaveill> am I missing something
[11:11] <w30> Does anyone in here have the inside track on the xserver update problem and can help me and pedaz
[11:11] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says "segmentation fault".
[11:11] <sethk> psneaveill, what problem are you having?
[11:12] <lamego> w30, have you read the topic ?
[11:12] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop rt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours
[11:12] <John[1] > it looks empty
[11:12] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, what version of firefox?
[11:12] <psneaveill> the common one with the semirandom dots on the buttons
[11:12] <webguy> does anyone have any experience running php scripts under crontab
[11:12] <w30> lamego, no
[11:12] <pedaz> lamego, whats with the topic, i'm here for the first time
[11:12] <lamego> w30, do /topic , the problem is there
[11:12] <lamego> pedaz, .. /topic
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> webguy: plenty of people in ##php do
[11:12] <lamego> if you have problems related to the xorg update
[11:13] <pedaz> do /topic
[11:13] <alex_> can anyone help me with a video card issue
[11:13] <pedaz> how do we get there
[11:13] <John[1] > there is nothing in there.
[11:13] <alex_> How do you get your computer to boo the x-server when u install a new video card
[11:13] <mwe> SKossu: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) I guess
[11:13] <mnvl> John[1] , make sure you got the right one, lots of utilities will show you an empty file rather than warn you you got the name wrong
[11:13] <w30> lamego, so many people talking, my window scrolled it out of sight so quickly that I missed it ,sorry and thanks
[11:13] <psneaveill> with my system, I even attempted both the x-windows solution
[11:14] <psneaveill> when I try them, it craps me out to commandline
[11:14] <pedaz> w30, how can one get to the topic ????
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> pedaz: type /topic and hit enter
[11:14] <||arifaX> w30 see http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/269/#more
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> pedaz: in your irc client
[11:14] <SKossu> mwe: I got the version of headers it wants :S
[11:14] <psneaveill> do /topic
[11:14] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK Version of FireFox is 1.5.0.5.
[11:14] <BlueEagle> So it was xserver-xorg-core version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 that was the offending package that we should not upgrade to?
[11:15] <webguy> i guess the question is if the default php install on ubuntu is an executible
[11:15] <jvai> snaap. i'm on firefox 1.08 still!
[11:15] <SKossu> mwe: though its not where it wants them to be
[11:15] <mwe> SKossu: and is that version $(uname -r)? cause that's what it needs
[11:15] <SKossu> mwe: no idea, first day with linux
[11:15] <misieq> how do i set my ip to fixed? using command line tools?
[11:15] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK I removed it and installed again. Same problem again.
[11:15] <BlueEagle> webguy: the cli version of php is executable by default, yes. However the mod-php isn't being 'executed' per say. It's a module that is being loaded.
[11:16] <SKossu> mwe: ill give it a shot
[11:16] <mwe> SKossu: try sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and see what happens
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: Perhaps the real question is if mod-php is being loaded by apache by default after it's been installed?
[11:16] <webguy> blueeagle what is cli?
[11:16] <SKossu> wme: will do, thanks
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: command line interface
[11:16] <Warbo> !cli
[11:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: ie. when you run php scriptname.php from the command line.
[11:17] <webguy> so how can i test if i can run a php from the command line
[11:17] <BlueEagle> webguy: The cli version and the apache module version are two different things.
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> webguy: type php -v
[11:17] <webguy> so how do i know if i have the cli version of the apache module set up?
[11:17] <BlueEagle> webguy: Well they are the same thing in two different formats. (the one is not the other but they are still the same if you see what I mean)
[11:18] <Warbo> Has anyone successfully installed kqemu? It used to work for me after installation, so I made a bootup script which reinstalled it every bootup, but even that doesn't work any more :(
[11:18] <webguy> fyrestrtr: got a command not found error
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> webguy: then you don't have the cli version. sudo apt-get install php5-cli will fetch it for you.
[11:18] <Minty> can I merge my two swap partitions into one ??
[11:19] <webguy> fyrestrtr: so i can have both the command line version and the apache version running at the same time on the same box?
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> webguy: sure
[11:19] <sethk> Minty, you can delete both and create one big one, yes
[11:19] <Warbo> Minty: You can use two, or jsu tdelete them both and make a new one which is the size of both
[11:19] <Warbo> *just delete
[11:20] <John[1] > Okay, I'm in the sources.list.  What do I need to add or comment out?
[11:20] <Minty> Warbo: OK how do I delete them and make a new one ??
[11:20] <Andy_Alpha> is there a shortcut for switching between workspaces?
[11:20] <kminor> hey fellas, i know that ubuntu is based of debian, but what are the main differences inbetween the two in general and as far as configuration and capability?
[11:20] <webguy> great - what about the other modules i installed eralier with the apache version such as php5-imap and php-mcrupt
[11:20] <Warbo> Minty: You need to run "sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname" fisrt, to stop them being used
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: ctrl+alt+left and right arrow keys
[11:20] <baconbacon> Minty : if you want to use two swap partitions at once, it works well
[11:20] <jackn> where do I get a quitting message
[11:20] <Andy_Alpha> thx
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> webguy: these are not 'apache versions' both will use them.
[11:20] <webguy> do i need to reinstall them both on the new cli?
[11:20] <psneaveill> why the need for two swaps
[11:20] <webguy> excellent!
[11:20] <lamego> kminor, the release cycle, community, etc, etc
[11:21] <eyequeue> jackn, you type it
[11:21] <eyequeue> jackn, /quit foo
[11:21] <sethk> psneaveill, there is no need for two swaps.  I assume he needs more space than he allocated for a single swap
[11:21] <Minty> baconbacon: I have two as I have just installed 64bit paralel with a 32 bit vesion and two seems untidy
[11:21] <kminor> lamego: any advantages? disadvantages?
[11:21] <jackn> eyequeue and how does it know it's 'quit'?
[11:21] <Warbo> kminor: Other than the release shedule and the choice of versions for GCC, etc. I would say they are technologically the same
[11:21] <Minty> Warbo: after sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname I do what ??
[11:22] <eyequeue> jackn, the irc client has a command, /quit, and it has an optional operand, typically
[11:22] <Warbo> Minty: You realise that "/dev/partitionname" should be replaced with your swap partitions, yes?
[11:22] <psneaveill> thanks deth
[11:22] <sethk> kminor, I wouldn't say ubuntu is based on debian.  It just uses debian's package management
[11:22] <psneaveill> thanks seth
[11:22] <bengine> please can someone help me
[11:22] <lamego> kminor, well, I would start a war, there is people which prefer debian, others ubuntu
[11:22] <webguy> fyrestrtr: worked like a charm
[11:22] <SKossu> wme: thanks, it fixed it :)
[11:22] <jackn> eyequeue thanks a lot. Where can I see a listing of these commands, please?
[11:22] <webguy> !!! thanks
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <eyequeue> jackn, unless your client is bx, then it has a billion annoying ones progrmmed in and causing bloat, heh
[11:22] <bengine> i've got a stupid question
[11:22] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:22] <Warbo> sethk: And just happens to import it's packages from Debian?
[11:22] <Minty> sudo swapoff /dev/hda5 for instance
[11:23] <baconbacon> Minty, ok but I remind you you wont be able to hibernate one and boot the other (it's minor but useful in my case)
[11:23] <sethk> Warbo, "import"?  how do you mean import?
[11:23] <ninu> ubuntu.it
[11:23] <eyequeue> jackn, in irssi, /help ... most console clients as well
[11:23] <sethk> Warbo, you don't import packages.
[11:23] <jackn> eyequeue don't know what it is, it's in gaim.
[11:23] <Warbo> sethk: Universe is basically Debian recompiled
[11:23] <Minty> baconbacon:  thanks I never hibernate
[11:23] <Warbo> I'm not saying that is a bad thing, by the way
[11:23] <lamego> kminor, I personally tried both, found Ubuntu easier to  setup and to keep, providing more recent versions of the software I need (this compared with debian stable)
[11:23] <eyequeue> jackn, there was once a site called irchelp, .org maybe?  see if it still exists and has a list
[11:23] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[11:24] <sethk> Warbo, there are a lot of things in debian that don't have packages in the ubuntu repositories.
[11:24] <Andy_Alpha> Check an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> what software is used on launchpad?
[11:24] <jackn> eyequeue Thanks, /help worked.
[11:24] <John[1] > Can someone tell me what to add or comment out in the sources.list to get me fixed up?
[11:24] <harisund> !sources
[11:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:24] <Warbo>  MintyOK, if you have turned them both off then I think the easiest way to delete them and make a new one would be in GParted
[11:24] <bengine> warbo
[11:24] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:24] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, i think custom stuff called "launchpad" now :)  it's a recent thing that it was all-custom
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > John[1] 
[11:24] <sethk> bengine, type it
[11:24] <Warbo> bengine: I don't know
[11:24] <biscon> ZOMGWTFBBQ MY UBUNTU JST B0RK3D JUST START WITH BLACKSCREEN WIHT FUNNY TEXT, HELPZER PLZ! GIEF CODE TO FIX!!1
[11:24] <bengine> ok
[11:24] <bengine> tnx
[11:24] <olli> Hello there! I need help with some weird xserver issue. anybody?
[11:25] <bengine> for example
[11:25] <sethk> bengine, do you mean one that doesn't have a key attached to it?
[11:25] <Warbo> !xorgbug
[11:25] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:25] <lamego> biscon, stop joking
[11:25] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, all FOSS though, to their pride :)  i'm sure there has to be a d/l link, though i've not seen it
[11:25] <kminor> lamego: does it have the same packages? or have the same packages available for apt?
[11:25] <olli> hello ubotu
[11:25] <biscon> lamego: can't fool anyone these days :(
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: would like to see the magic behind that thing.
[11:25] <Minty> Warbo:  so if I do sudo swapoff /dev/hda5 && sudo swapoff /dev/hda6 what next ?
[11:25] <jvai> lol
[11:25] <bengine> can someone please help me
[11:25] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:25] <Warbo> Minty: Are the partitions next to each other?
[11:25] <lamego> kminor, no, they do have common packages for some software, but usually they have different versions
[11:25] <biscon> bengine: what seems to be the problem good sir?
[11:26] <sethk> bengine, again, do you mean a character that doesn't have a key assignment?
[11:26] <Minty> I fairle sure yes
[11:26] <denver> will someone tell me whaat `sudo rm -rf /` does?
[11:26] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, i saw an annoucement about it recently, but i think there is, let me check.  sec...
[11:26] <sethk> denver, destroys your entire system
[11:26] <Andy_Alpha> I have an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:26] <sethk> denver, do NOT do that
[11:26] <Warbo> I heard that Launchpad isn't all Free Software, which is why it hasn't been adopted by that many distros yet
[11:26] <bengine> yes sethk
[11:26] <bengine> tnx
[11:26] <eyequeue> denver, gets you banned?
[11:26] <denver> my friend told me to run it
[11:26] <jvai> ben, right clik w/ the mouse in the shell, it'll give u options
[11:26] <sethk> bengine, you can easily write a small program that echoes any character, and you supply the character as an argument
[11:26] <harisund> denver, "friend" you say?
[11:26] <eyequeue> denver, wrong
[11:26] <baconbacon> Warbo, youll need to back that
[11:27] <sethk> bengine, be a four or five line program
[11:27] <eyequeue> denver, not a friend
[11:27] <Warbo> Minty: System>Admin>GNOME Partition Editor
[11:27] <jackn> denver It forces (f) removal of all files in a directory (r;recursively). Dangerous. Be sure...
[11:27] <bengine> i c
[11:27] <denver> :P
[11:27] <frodon> olli, here is a small fix before the official fix in the repos : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EmergencyDapperXorgFix
[11:27] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, #launchpad has 53 in it :)  they'd know
[11:27] <Warbo> baconbacon: Forgot where I saw it, but correct me if I am wrong
[11:27] <olli> Thanks frodon. I already fixed it
[11:27] <jackn> Denver with friends like that...
[11:27] <yyy> 
[11:27] <jackn> Denver In order to do what?
[11:27] <harisund> denver, rm deletes files and folders, -r deletes each folder and each folder inside that folder and so on .. -f deletes it without confirming it from you first. Finally the '/' tells it to start deleting from the top of your system, eventually working your way down to the entire system :)
[11:28] <eyequeue> denver, even mentioning it will get you banned from most linux related channels
[11:28] <denver> i will remember that
[11:28] <sethk> denver, your friend was either joking or being malicious
[11:28] <root_> is there a problem concearning an update of ubuntu ?
[11:28] <bengine> and how can i show every char
[11:28] <harisund> you know what eyequeue, one of these days I should try it out to see what actually happens :)
[11:28] <Warbo> Minty: Use that to delete the partitions, then apply the changes, then make a new one, then apply the changes and close it (remember the /dev/XXXX name for it though)
[11:28] <Minty> wardo don't have that
[11:28] <bengine> ?
[11:28] <olli> not with me
[11:28] <root_> i cant start xwindows ???????
[11:28] <eyequeue> root_, don't irc as root, and yes, see /topic
[11:28] <baconbacon> !xorgbugfix > root_
[11:28] <Warbo> Minty: OK, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[11:28] <sethk> bengine, you could easily do that in a program as well.
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: got my answer from the ... faq :)
[11:29] <kminor> lamego: does ubuntu have kismet?
[11:29] <sethk> bengine, just send each character between 32 and 127
[11:29] <lamego> dezonioes, read the topic
[11:29] <sethk> bengine, below 32 are generally not displayable
[11:29] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, a download link there too?
[11:29] <lamego> kminor, it does
[11:29] <jsilva> Hi all
[11:29] <dezonioes> i havent got a browse that works ^_^
[11:29] <dezonioes> r
[11:29] <eyequeue> !info kismet
[11:29] <chris86wm> has the whole update fiasco been fixed yet?
[11:29] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[11:29] <biscon> sethk: space is :)
[11:29] <jsilva> is it safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core now?
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: I wish, but I got the info I was after. Its a zope app.
[11:29] <harisund> Did anyone here care to create a survey or have a count of how many people have logged into IRC today and asked about the Xserver fix?
[11:29] <olli> does anybody know where virtual resolutions can be stored?
[11:29] <biscon> sethk: ehm nevermind
[11:29] <sethk> biscon, space is 32
[11:29] <eyequeue> dezonioes, sudo apt-get install lynx
[11:29] <lamego> kminor, version 2005.08.R1-1.2
[11:30] <olli> it is safe to update xorg-core with ubuntu now
[11:30] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, ah
[11:30] <Qball> me still thinks its funny
[11:30] <Warbo> harisund: You could grep -c the logs...
[11:30] <olli> i did it right away
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> harisund: the logs would be one place to look.
[11:30] <lamego> olli, it depends wether your repositories are updated or not
[11:30] <Andy_Alpha> I have an odd bug: my firefox (1.5.0.5) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:30] <harisund> ah .. ok Warbo and fyrestrtr.. will do ..
[11:30] <biscon> sethk: aye
[11:30] <olli> well mine are
[11:30] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, I asked before, what version of firefox do you have
[11:30] <jsilva> ok
[11:30] <kminor> lamego: is ubuntu better, worse or just as good as debian and other distro's to run on a laptop, i have a vaio, and i had spent a full day configuring Nvidia drivers and ipw2200 drivers
[11:31] <eyequeue> kminor, i prefer it, and have run both
[11:31] <eyequeue> !better
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> kminor: if your laptop has crap hardware, no distribution will work. I have a well supported laptop, and all distros that I have tried have installed without a hitch.
[11:31] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK 1.5.0.5
[11:31] <sethk> kminor, I think ubuntu is easier to set up on a laptop with wireless, but if it is already configured with debian, stay with debian
[11:31] <IndyBC> Hello. Can I (with apt-get) get a package and its dependencies, as .deb?
[11:31] <dezonioes> how can i open a second shell window ?
[11:31] <webguy> well i tired running one of my scripts that works fine via the web (i.e. apache) and got this error "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/feingold/httpdocs/staffasap/dbConnect.inc.php on line 23"
[11:31] <magnus[1] > are the ubuntu forums down?  I cant get it to load, and the new xorg update killed my xserver
[11:31] <eyequeue> kminor, better is opinion though
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> dezonioes: ctrl+alt+f2
[11:31] <jvai> thnkpads r the best for linux
[11:31] <webguy> any reason why it wouldn't work via the executiable?
[11:31] <olli> I know of many people having problems with debian on a laptop
[11:31] <Warbo> kminor: I would say Ubuntu would be better, since Ubuntu seems to have a focus on the desktop/laptop, so driver issues and things get sorted better and are easier
[11:31] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, I'm running 1.5.0.4, but I've not heard of a problem with .5
[11:32] <IndyBC> Because I want to transfer them to another pc, that it has not internet connection.
[11:32] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, try removing it and reinstalling it.
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I think so
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , "killed" your "server"?  server with x?  weird server
[11:32] <IndyBC> SeanTater, ok, how? :)
[11:32] <lamego> kminor, ubuntu is known to be one of distros having better support for desktop use (include laptop), anyway you should do some research first, I am not sure abou the ipw2200 drivers, i don't use them...
[11:32] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK already did; didn't help
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: ah -- not the dependancies too
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , /topic
[11:32] <hextor> hello: following question. I installed ubuntu on a laptop, with a small 500Mb home drive. Idea behind is that all data is elsewhere. After installing some programs, the home directory is getting full however. I thought that stuff went into the root partition. Did I did something wrong / is there any way to change that? thanks!
[11:32] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - it wont load
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: just the first one
[11:32] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, you are installing with apt-get?
[11:32] <Minty> Warbo: swapoff: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , what won't load?
[11:32] <harisund> does DHCP use TCP or UDP?
[11:32] <IndyBC> SeanTater, oh, ok :-(
[11:32] <magnus[1] > xserver wont
[11:32] <sethk> harisund, udp
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: try googling, there as one that does
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , known.  /topic
[11:32] <Warbo> Minty: Are you sure that is your swap? Maybe check with "fdisk -l"
[11:32] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK No. Well...  With Synaptic
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, programs data does not go into /home
[11:33] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I've heard of ti
[11:33] <sethk> harisund, actually, just raw ip, but that is effectively like udp
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, check your trash
[11:33] <SeanTater> IndyBC:  /it/
[11:33] <IndyBC> SeanTater, I did, but I didn't find anythin.
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, that's the same thing, synaptic or apt-get
[11:33] <harisund> sethk ah ... is that perhaps why my DHCP server shows no result on an nmap?
[11:33] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - thanks
[11:33] <sethk> harisund, yes
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: I am on .5, and I don't have that problem.
[11:33] <harisund> sethk sweet.. thanks .. :)
[11:33] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , sudo apt-get install lynx, if you can't read the url in console
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, you can install the version from mozilla.org
[11:33] <IndyBC> SeanTater, so, there isn't any way to get a package and its dependencies at once?
[11:33] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK I knew it. Then yes... I did. Is that a problem?
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, not normally.  try installing the one from mozilla.org, see if the behavior changes
[11:33] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - im on a different comp (lappy)
[11:34] <magnus[1] > thx though
[11:34] <hextor> lamego: nothing of consequence there
[11:34] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , gotcha
[11:34] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, the one from the package should work, but knowing whether the one from mozilla.org works gives a pointer as to what may be wrong
[11:34] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , you'll want lynx for the next breakage though ;)
[11:34] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, or, of course, if the one from mozilla.org doesn't work, that's also useful info
[11:34] <SeanTater> IndyBC: yes, but you have to know which dependancies the dependancies need and so on, and on top of that, which ones that the /other/ computer needs..
[11:34] <magnus[1] > hahaha
[11:34] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I've seen it before, but I don;t know it's name
[11:35] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK Mozilla.org? Sounds like mozilla-firefox, not firefox... :) OK THX
[11:35] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, no, firefox is a mozilla.org project
[11:35] <jvai> i'm blowing off jvava.. for now :(
[11:35] <Warbo> Netscape>Mozilla>Firefox+Thunderbird
[11:35] <graveson> i am copying .mp4 files to a dvd using k3b but when insertng the dvd  for playback i am not able to automount or play the dvd's ,however i can play the same files on a disk
[11:35] <livingdaylight> I need help
[11:36] <livingdaylight> i'm in deep deep ****
[11:36] <Minty> Warbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21434
[11:36] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, i believe you
[11:36] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: no, really
[11:36] <psneaveill> spill it living
[11:36] <Warbo> Minty: Ah, I will give it a go but my web browsing seems to like timeouts today...
[11:36] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, details might get you some though., heh
[11:36] <livingdaylight> i don't have xorg.conf
[11:36] <Minty> NP if not I try tomrrowa as getting late*
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, read the /topic yet?
[11:37] <livingdaylight> my computer suddenly stopped running in X
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, known issue, /topic
[11:37] <Warbo> livingdaylight: read the topic ^^^^
[11:37] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: read the topic
[11:37] <livingdaylight> oh, shit
[11:37] <livingdaylight> sorry
[11:37] <jackn> livingdaylight, do /topic
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, sudo apt-get install lynx, if you need it, to read the url in the /topic
[11:37] <hextor> lamego: I dont understand.. the partition is 490MB, when I do properties in home it says 90.7MB are used and 43MB are free ... where is the missing space?
[11:37] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - ha it was as simple as update / upgrade
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i didnt realize they'd have the fix out now
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i updated originally last night
[11:38] <magnus[1] > but never rebooted
[11:38] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , now, though hours ago it was worse, heh
[11:38] <Warbo> Minty: Looks like they can be merged easily
[11:38] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , that reboot was the gotcha
[11:38] <hextor> what will .. du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*  do?
[11:38] <lamego> hextor, where do you see the "used space" ?
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i knew when i saw the update last night that i shouldnt reboot if i was gonna need my workstation
[11:38] <magnus[1] > just for safety's sake
[11:38] <Warbo> Minty: How many times did you run swapoff? Maybe it gave an error because you already turned it off...
[11:38] <lamego> how did you noticed your /home is full ?
[11:38] <magnus[1] > but thanks
[11:38] <hextor> lamego: in the disks manager, on the partitioninformation
[11:38] <imperfect-> Anyone here good with Ubuntu PPC ?
[11:39] <imperfect-> or ubuntu on powermacs
[11:39] <hextor> lamego: plus it tells me 42MB available
[11:39] <Minty> Warbo: iah not sure
[11:39] <SeanTater> hextor: pastebin what df says
[11:39] <livingdaylight> Folks, so all i gotta do is install that file?
[11:39] <eyequeue> lamego, my box routinely tells me /var is nearing full, maybe it checks /home too?  dunno
[11:39] <livingdaylight> Is there hope for me?
[11:39] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: probably is
[11:39] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK There's a problem; I have AMD64. There's no FireFox for AMD64 on mozilla.org
[11:39] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: please tell me
[11:39] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: enjoy
[11:39] <psneaveill> uodate/upgrade are your friends
[11:39] <lamego> hextor, I wouldn't trust a partition manager to check for the disk used space :)
[11:39] <livingdaylight> SeanTater: i'm really stressed over this
[11:39] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)
[11:39] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:40] <lamego> hextor, do you have /home on a split partition ?
[11:40] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: i get that way too -- you'll survive
[11:40] <hextor> lamego: lol well but nautilius shows 42Mb free anyhow.. yes, home is in a separate 500MB partition
[11:40] <livingdaylight> You guys are the best
[11:40] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, go fixx it, then come back and reassure others :)
[11:40] <Minty> Warbo: in G parted I can disactivate hda5 one and delete hda6
[11:40] <sutabi> fyrestrtr: I tried the update and it still didn't give me the /build directory in my kernel of 2.6.15-26
[11:40] <Warbo> Minty: Check in System>Admin>System Monitor and go in Resources. See how much swap is available, that will tell you whether it is being used
[11:41] <lamego> hextor, what about "df" ?
[11:41] <Minty> warbo swap zero
[11:41] <wasabi_> Anybody aware of a program to check what type of memory is installed?
[11:41] <lamego> I don't trust GUIs :)
[11:41] <wasabi_> pc133, etc.
[11:41] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: not exactly sure what i am to do?
[11:41] <wasabi_> I know there are such utilities for Windows, so I suspect there's something for Linux
[11:41] <Warbo> Minty: OK, then you should be able to delete both partitions
[11:41] <hextor> (what is df?)
[11:41] <eyequeue> wasabi_, i call that "screwdriver" heh ... no, i don't know of any
[11:41] <jackn> Minty, or the command 'free'
[11:41] <lamego> wasabi, try: lshw
[11:41] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: i'm reading the link in the topic but still not sure
[11:41] <Warbo> Minty: Or even jsut delete hda6 and resize hda5
[11:41] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, are you on that box now?  sudo apt-get update
[11:41] <baconbacon> hextor: hextor, as lamego said, please check (or post to pastbin) the output of "df" (disk free?)
[11:42] <lamego> hextor, is the standar "disk free" checking program for linux/unix
[11:42] <lamego> type i on a terminal, df
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:42] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: i'm using a live distro
[11:42] <Minty> warbo that I can do with gparte
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, then reboot
[11:42] <Minty> doing now
[11:42] <wasabi_> lshw did the trick
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, write the two commands down then
[11:42] <marshall_> lamego:  lol dont trust guis
[11:42] <matt____> which repo do i need for wine
[11:42] <Warbo> Minty: I think you have to apply any changes which are going to "overlap", ie. you cannot create a partition in some empty space if you have not yet created the empty space
[11:43] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: update and upgrade?
[11:43] <eyequeue> !info wine
[11:43] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[11:43] <hextor> ok here it goes...
[11:43] <hextor> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda2              4806936   3069324   1493424  68% /
[11:43] <hextor> varrun                  193136       132    193004   1% /var/run
[11:43] <hextor> varlock                 193136         4    193132   1% /var/lock
[11:43] <hextor> udev                    193136       160    192976   1% /dev
[11:43] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, with "sudo apt-get " in front of them, yes
[11:43] <hextor> devshm                  193136         0    193136   0% /dev/shm
[11:43] <hextor> lrm                     193136     18856    174280  10% /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda6              1720268    129476   1590792   8% /datashare
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda3               460532    386034     49928  89% /home
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda1              4097488   2713616   1383872  67% /media/hda1
[11:43] <Warbo> !pastebin
[11:43] <eyequeue> !pastebin > hextor
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hdc                126520    126520         0 100% /media/cdrom0
[11:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:43] <Minty> warbo HDA6 deleted what would be good size for the had5, wnowing that I have 2 gigs of ram
[11:43] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: sure, of course, but i can't believe x broke and now it'll be fixed just by upadating and upgrading
[11:43] <hextor> (cool, thanks)
[11:43] <eyequeue> hextor, shall we forgive you this once, or hate you forever?
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, why?
[11:44] <marshall_> hextor:  please dont paste into the channel
[11:44] <hextor> (hey i have 1 week with ubuntu!! - looks innocently)
[11:44] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: the thing is my friend had me remove X and xorg.conf files
[11:44] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, it was a much harder fix earlier, but the new file has propagated to the mirrors now
[11:44] <sutabi> Anyone know how I can get the lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build <-- the build folder? I need it for my ndiswrapper
[11:44] <Warbo> Minty: 2GB RAM? You might not need swap unless you hibernate a laptop... (I have 5GB, but I bought a 250GB HD and went crazy :) )
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, that wasn't smart
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, even if that was the problem, that's the wrong way to try to fix it
[11:44] <livingdaylight> sethk: i know, it was a despeatate move
[11:44] <eyequeue> hextor, paste single lines, but pastebin for floods like that
[11:45] <marshall_> has anybody tried silc?
[11:45] <Warbo> Minty: Since you already have your drives set up you may as well extend hda5 as much as possible
[11:45] <lamego> hextor, you have 386MBs used fore sure
[11:45] <Minty> I never or verry rairly hibernate will set 1 GB for swap
[11:45] <livingdaylight> sethk: we tried all sorts of other things and for some reason the thought this was the way to go
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, nice protocol, but i haven't used it in months
[11:45] <Minty> Warbo: ok then it will be 2 gigs
[11:45] <treitter> are the "amd64" CDs meant even for the Intel 64-bit machines? (in this case a dual-processor Xeon 3 GHz)
[11:45] <livingdaylight> sethk: what can i do now?
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, nice devs too :)
[11:45] <marshall_> eyequeue:  silc?
[11:45] <lamego> hextor, install baobab
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, yeah
[11:45] <marshall_> eyequeue:  what exactly is it?
[11:46] <Warbo> Minty: Just apply any changes then exit GParted, the rest is easy in a terminal
[11:46] <livingdaylight> sethk: ?
[11:46] <Warbo> (I mean after you have resized hda5 :) )
[11:46] <sethk> livingdaylight, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:46] <eyequeue> marshall_, i used the plugin for irssi .... secure internet live chat,   ... for irssi, it's basically "encrypted irc" though not irc protocol at all ... but it also handles non-text, any transmissions really
[11:46] <jackn> ubotu You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may?
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <sethk> livingdaylight, that should reconstruct your x configuration
[11:47] <marshall_> eyequeue:  oh wicked
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> jackn: you are talking to a bot.
[11:47] <Warbo> !ubotu > jackn
[11:47] <marshall_> eyequeue:  thanks mate
[11:47] <eyequeue> marshall_, does that answer it, or am i just babbling?  see silc.org too
[11:47] <jackn> Is ubotu a robot?
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> yes
[11:47] <livingdaylight> sethk: so i should sudo apt-get update and then upgrade and then do the xserver.xorg thing?
[11:47] <nekostar> yes
[11:47] <Minty> Warbo: need to reboot as suggest by gparted do I have to any thing in terminal before reboot ??
[11:47] <eyequeue> jackn, good catch :)
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[11:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:47] <nekostar> o:
[11:47] <sethk> livingdaylight, yes, I'd say that's your best option
[11:47] <Warbo> Minty: One thing
[11:47] <nekostar> sudo shutdown -r now
[11:47] <hextor> lamego: feels better now that people believes him (lol)..   ok installed now
[11:47] <nekostar> :D
[11:47] <RogerRabb> how can I read the first line from a file?
[11:47] <nekostar> <3 -r
[11:47] <Warbo> Minty: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:47] <livingdaylight> sethk: i been doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg up to now unsuccessfully
[11:48] <lamego> hextor, run it, check your /home contents
[11:48] <jackn> Warbo thanks
[11:48] <eyequeue> RogerRabb, head -1 filename
[11:48] <webtoe> RogerRab head -1
[11:48] <profoX`> RogerRabb: cat file | head -n 1
[11:48] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:48] <RogerRabb> thanks :)
[11:48] <nekostar> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <livingdaylight> nekostar: yes?
[11:48] <nekostar> note the -
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, if you have the bad update and you are getting no screens found, it will work
[11:48] <lamego> hextor, Applications -> Accessories -> Baobab
[11:48] <nekostar> :)
[11:48] <jackn> Roger head -1 filename
[11:48] <profoX`> oh no head -1 is easier :)
[11:48] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, after you get the new fixed package (which is, actually, the old package)
[11:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello, very quick question. what is the best graphical tracroute package anyone knows of?
[11:48] <sutabi> fyrestrtr:  the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386
[11:48] <sutabi> didn't install the /build directory I needed
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, as several people have said, use sudo for the dpkg-reconfigure
[11:48] <Minty> trevor@trevor-ubuntu:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:48] <Minty> (gedit:6971): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:48] <Minty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:48] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <lamego> sethk, are you sure it's the old package :) ?
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <LoRez> Warning: `BitSpider' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <sethk> lamego, not positive, that's second hand
[11:49] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:49] <livingdaylight> sethk: geez what a mess ubuntu have got us into
[11:49] <Warbo> Minty: Yes, don't pay any attention to that
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <profoX`> kick.
[11:49] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)
[11:49] <BitSpider> v
[11:49] <kyja> :/
[11:49] <nekostar> well
[11:49] <nekostar> fukkit
[11:49] <profoX`> kickban BitSpider
[11:49] <Minty> Warbo: ok the gedit is open
[11:49] <lamego> sethk, I got the information that it was fixed, not reverted :)
[11:49] <Lobster> n8
[11:49] <kyja> spider is going to get bit lol
[11:49] <jackn> Bitspider>pastebin
[11:49] <nekostar> Torrentek	34
[11:49] <sethk> lamego, could be correct, as I said, I was too lazy to check myself
[11:49] <livingdaylight> nekostar: ? what did you want to tell me?
[11:49] <nekostar> first
[11:49] <nekostar> its german
[11:49] <nekostar> second its small
[11:49] <nekostar> dont bother with the tracker
[11:49] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:49] <Andy_Alpha> This is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!
[11:49] <Warbo> Minty: Look for any lines to do with hda5/hda5/swap. basically make sure it isn't trying to use hda6, and that it knows about hda5
[11:49] <nekostar> copy paste what i put
[11:49] <eyequeue> lamego, there were two patches in the update, one was pulled out and it was released as the fix
[11:50] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <Warbo> *hda5/hda6/swap
[11:50] <livingdaylight> nekostar: what?
[11:50] <marshall_> i think bitspider was a bot
[11:50] <nekostar> do that exactly and youll have no problem
[11:50] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:50] <nekostar> marshall_, indeed
[11:50] <lamego> eyequeue, ok :)
[11:50] <Minty> Warbo: dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:50] <hextor> lamego; ok now we are getting to the topic... it says wine: 150MB, .mozilla 55MB, winetools 42MB, .kde 23MB, .listen 12MB,  the other things are small
[11:50] <Minty> Warbo: no hda6 in lines
[11:50] <psneaveill> !<Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] >
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <lamego> the 992 was pulled out :P
[11:50] <treitter> does anyone know about the bugs with Ubuntu 6.06.1 server install on an IBM xSeries 346?
[11:50] <hextor> lamego: shouldnt WINE and comp have gone to the root directory?
[11:50] <livingdaylight> nekostar: sorry, i missed your paste, what exactly should i do?
[11:50] <kyja> why doesn't midi files play. I dont understand that.
[11:50] <nekostar> copy paste that into terminal
[11:50] <kingwolf> Is there a PDF editor/writer application?  I've found plenty of viewers..but none that allow me to edit.
[11:50] <lamego> hextor, oh,, wine.. wine does install on your home :)
[11:50] <chalcedny> where do i need to go to get support for my HP all-in-one print fax scanner on ubuntu? It's not printing every other line/
[11:50] <nekostar> kyja, u need more codecs
[11:51] <hextor> lamego: hmmm cant windows avoid being evil at least on a simulation??
[11:51] <Warbo> Minty: Then you are OK. If you are rebooting then you may as well boot into the other Ubuntu system and check it's /etc/fstab file (I think it would point to hda6)
[11:51] <livingdaylight> nekostar: you haven't told me what to copy and paste?
[11:51] <lamego> hextor, lol
[11:51] <kingwolf> !adobe
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:51] <Andy_Alpha> This is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!
[11:51] <nekostar> sorry bro
[11:51] <kyja> well I installed tons. mp3 work even movies that you would not expect
[11:51] <nekostar> but if i put something in red
[11:51] <nekostar> and bold
[11:51] <chalcedny> kingwolf, i'd love it if you got that.. you can MAKE pdfs with either OpenOffice or AbiWord
[11:51] <nekostar> and repeatedly tossed it in this window
[11:51] <nekostar> and you still have a question
[11:51] <psneaveill> !<Radeon RV200>
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <jackn> Kingwolf -writer (open office) will edit any text, and then export it as pdf!
[11:51] <Sleeping_Sloth> doesna nyone know of a good graphical traceroute program for TCP/IP ?
[11:51] <eternalswd> anyone know if xampp has an irc channel?
[11:51] <nekostar> i cant help
[11:51] <nekostar> !radion
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <nekostar> !radeon
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <nekostar> psneaveill,
[11:52] <Minty> warbo and if so I change the hda6 to Hda5 yes ??
[11:52] <hextor> lamego: is there any way to move wine out of here? even reinstalling/
[11:52] <Warbo> kingwolf: PDF is designed to be non-editable. You can create them in OpenOffice, Abiword, whatever
[11:52] <nekostar> u need help with driver ?
[11:52] <Warbo> Minty: Exactly
[11:52] <livingdaylight> sorry, nekostar, i'm using a live distro and xchat is not what it usually is, I did not see anything in red here addressed to me
[11:52] <Warbo> Minty: And that is it! :)
[11:52] <nekostar> livingdaylight, live distro ?
[11:52] <alex-weej> What the crack is it with the NOT AUTHENTICATED stuff in APT?
[11:52] <chalcedny> kingwolf, you could 'select all' and paste to oo.
[11:52] <alex-weej> Sick of seeing it!
[11:52] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[11:52] <nekostar> why not start over with your problem
[11:52] <kingwolf> chalcedny, jackn, Warbo Can I edit a pre-existing form?  Like an application using Openoffice?
[11:52] <nekostar> alex-weej, using backports ?
[11:53] <Minty> rebooting
[11:53] <alex-weej> nekostar: no, all standard repos. It happens infrequently and an update fixes it.
[11:53] <chalcedny> kingwolf, see our previous posts.. paste to OO and then edit happily
[11:53] <nekostar> dunno then alex-weej sorry
[11:53] <lamego> hextor, you can move to another partition, and just creat a link to it
[11:53] <livingdaylight> nekostar: yes, coz my X is dead, i'm using kanotix live to get online
[11:53] <jackn> Kingwolf, don't know, would try to open the pdf with writer. if it opens, you're good to go.
[11:53] <Warbo> kingwolf: The only way I know of is the digital equivalent of tipp-ex, ie. take a screenshot and put text boxes on top.......
[11:53] <hextor> lamego: you mean moving it "the hard way" as in copy/paste?
[11:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> nobody in here has used tracroute?
[11:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> *traceroute
[11:54] <hextor> lamego; if so, how do i create a link after that?
[11:54] <mwe> yes
[11:54] <chalcedny> Warbo, wow i hadn't thought of that .. how does one put 'text boxes' on top ?
[11:54] <livingdaylight> nekostar: and i'm not used to it. The background is all black and i didn't see anything you wrote to me, certainly not in black
[11:54] <kminor> hey guys
[11:54] <Warbo> chalcedny: Should be easy in a word processor
[11:54] <nekostar> it was in red livingdaylight but ok
[11:54] <livingdaylight> nekostar: give me another chance and tell me what you said
[11:54] <kminor> I downloaded an iso for Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[11:54] <nekostar> sure
[11:54] <nekostar> boot to hdd distro
[11:54] <jackn> Kingwolf: last resort: copy and paste the pdf into an open Writer document, and then pdf export it. Only if opening the pdf directly with Writer doesn't work. Will check.
[11:54] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get update
[11:54] <Warbo> or desktop publishing app like scribus
[11:54] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core
[11:55] <kminor> i usually run KDE so Kubuntu would be likely, but what's the diff inbetween regular Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[11:55] <nekostar> !xorgbug
[11:55] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:55] <chalcedny> Warbo, hmmmm (i prefer vim..)
[11:55] <nekostar> !xorgbugfix
[11:55] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[11:55] <Warbo> kminor: KDE. That is it
[11:55] <treitter> is it possible to do a 32-bit install, and then switch over to using 64-bit packages?
[11:55] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[11:55] <kminor> Warbo : doesnt regular ubuntu have kde and gnome?
[11:55] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:55] <chalcedny> kminor, kubuntu = kde
[11:55] <nekostar> nyaa ?
[11:56] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[11:56] <psneaveill> thanks for the input -- gotta go
[11:56] <kminor> chalcedny: yeah i know that but I thought ubuntu the normal edition had kde and gnome, or does it have a diff. interface?
[11:56] <crunch> hey
[11:56] <janbanan> My internet connection is running very slow with ubuntu compared to windows. why is that?
[11:56] <Warbo> kminor: Ubuntu as a distro has GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, E16, etc. "Kubuntu" is just a sub-distro which comes with KDE by default. The package repos are the same, the packages used are available to all, it is just the defaults which are different
[11:56] <chalcedny> Warbo, kewl ty
[11:57] <kminor> Warbo: oh kool, thnx....so just more kde packages set default then eh?
[11:57] <Flannel> !tell janbanan about ipv6
[11:57] <cynical> janbanan: what browser do you use?
[11:57] <Warbo> I am in favour of bringing all officially endorsed Ubuntu distros under the name "Ubuntu"
[11:57] <janbanan> firefox
[11:57] <sethk> kminor, there really isn't a "normal edition".  you can use any desktop with ubuntu
[11:57] <crunch> i have just installed ubuntu to an old computer, but it will only run by command line
[11:57] <kminor> word
[11:58] <crunch> how can i get the gui up?
[11:58] <livingdaylight>  nekostar so, copied that down. And in that order
[11:58] <Thunderpants> whats ur sys specs crunch ?
[11:58] <Warbo> kminor: If by "more" you mean more than zero, then yes. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same, but Kubuntu has some Ubuntu packages installed which Ubuntu doesn't, and doesn't have some Ubuntu packages which Ubuntu has installed bu default. It is all Ubuntu
[11:58] <crunch> pentium mmx 166 cpu
[11:58] <crunch> 128 mb ram
[11:58] <zombiekiller> */ns identify penis
[11:59] <Thunderpants> aint happening mate crunch
[11:59] <sethk> crunch, I'd guess that it isn't recognizing your graphics card, but it is doing you a favor
[11:59] <livingdaylight> nekostar: what was that about xorbbugfix? that was not addressed to me?
[11:59] <crunch> i using 5.04 which says it only needs 32 meg of ram
[11:59] <hextor> anyone: I need to move some files to a different partition and create a link to them in a way that it is transparent to the OS? (Wine directory)
[11:59] <crunch> yeah i get some error saying the graphics card doesn't recognise something
[11:59] <Warbo> crunch: I would just try to get a bare X session going first. If that works then you may be able to get by with TWM or something...
[11:59] <alex-weej> hextor: symlink
[11:59] <livingdaylight> nekostar: install x-window-server-core followed by xserver-xorg-core and then reconfigure, yes?
[11:59] <jvai> nubuntu fo ru
[11:59] <jvai> nubuntu has fluxbox by default
[12:00] <janbanan> Flannel: It says that it don't support old hardware but I don't have old hardware. should I turn it off anyway?
[12:00] <zombiekiller> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[12:00] <Thunderpants> crunch, give it up mate
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[12:00] <crunch> ok i don't know what bare x is
[12:00] <crunch> i have the command line
[12:00] <crunch> but i don't know it
[12:00] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?