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| HedgeMage | hi Burgwork | 12:32 |
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| pygi | HedgeMage, !!! | 12:33 |
| HedgeMage | hi pygi :) | 12:33 |
| Burgwork | hey HedgeMage | 12:40 |
| HedgeMage | What's up? | 12:40 |
| Burgwork | not much | 12:46 |
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| Ilusion | HI. :) | 01:28 |
| Ilusion | looks crowded in here... | 01:28 |
| Ilusion | anyone up for answering inanae n00b questions? | 01:28 |
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| Ilusion | Hello? | 01:28 |
| Ilusion | :) | 01:28 |
| === Ilusion is stumped with edubuntu cross architechture LTSP setup... | ||
| Ilusion | :( | 01:29 |
| Ilusion | Anyone? Buhler? | 01:29 |
| Burgwork | Ilusion, what is your issue>? | 01:29 |
| Ilusion | follwoing instructions here: | 01:29 |
| Ilusion | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup | 01:30 |
| Ilusion | get to the point where I try to mount the /opt/ltsp from the live cd booted machine | 01:30 |
| Ilusion | command: | 01:30 |
| Ilusion | sudo mount <yourserverip>:/opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp | 01:30 |
| Ilusion | I get ""mount point /opt/ltsp does not exist" | 01:31 |
| Ilusion | I can ping the server and there are only 2 machines on that hub, so I know the server is up and ok... | 01:31 |
| Burgwork | you need to run the live cd on a client | 01:31 |
| Ilusion | did that | 01:31 |
| Ilusion | :) | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | good morning | 01:31 |
| Burgwork | you also need to install the ltsp on the live cd | 01:31 |
| Burgwork | "Install the ltsp-server package on the liveCD " | 01:31 |
| Ilusion | ah.. more misinterpretation from me then.. I assumed the text meant the next example line would perform that task... | 01:32 |
| Burgwork | no, it would not | 01:32 |
| Burgwork | you can edit the text to be better, however | 01:33 |
| Ilusion | I think I may do that as there have been two areas on that howto that stumped me.. this being the second... | 01:33 |
| Ilusion | is the ltsp somthing I can install using hmmm whats the command... ap-get or somthing like that? | 01:33 |
| Burgwork | yep | 01:33 |
| Burgwork | ltsp-server is a package name | 01:34 |
| Ilusion | is the syntax in that doc somewhere? | 01:34 |
| Burgwork | search for it in synaptic | 01:34 |
| Ilusion | synaptic? | 01:34 |
| Burgwork | or run apt-get install ltsp-server on the command line | 01:34 |
| === Ilusion is big linux n00b.. sorry for inane q's.... | ||
| Burgwork | no worries | 01:34 |
| Burgwork | the goal of Edubuntu is to be make it easy for non-techy teachers to be able to instlal it | 01:35 |
| Ilusion | thats sorta me.. i just have the "wrong" tech background... 15-20 years of novell/windows... :) | 01:35 |
| === Burgwork has just proven that you need no actual Edubuntu skills to help people out, as he has never installed Edubuntu | ||
| Ilusion | woo! that worked.. its getting the package... | 01:36 |
| Ilusion | i had to use sudo beforre apt-get though.. (im making notes so i can update that page... :) | 01:36 |
| Burgwork | yep | 01:37 |
| Ilusion | last install i did was slakware in 1996... :) | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 01:37 |
| Burgwork | hey jsgotangco | 01:37 |
| Ilusion | of linux that is.. | 01:37 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 01:37 |
| Ilusion | done a few novell suse installs, but those dont count ;) | 01:37 |
| Burgwork | ideally, apt shoudl undertsand arches, so that you could say "apt-get install i386:ltsp-server' | 01:38 |
| Ilusion | nutz. i didnt set a pri-dns in my dhcp so my client cant find the archive. can i set a pri dns using like ipconfig? | 01:39 |
| Burgwork | edit /etc/resolv.conf directly | 01:40 |
| Ilusion | ok, i got resolv.conf up in nano, I added nameserver <ip address of my pri dns> and saved it... | 01:44 |
| Ilusion | but i cant resolv my name server domain...? | 01:45 |
| Ilusion | is the syntax like a hosts file? | 01:45 |
| Ilusion | i.e. <name> tab <IP>? | 01:45 |
| Burgwork | nameserver IP | 01:45 |
| Ilusion | hmmm i did that... | 01:45 |
| Ilusion | looks like maybe the default gateway isnt setup in dhcp either... dangit... | 01:47 |
| Ilusion | ok, i just fixed the errors in the dhcp, is their a "ipconfig -renew" type command? | 01:53 |
| Ilusion | to force the client to renew its IP address via dhcp? | 01:53 |
| Ilusion | nvrmind.. found i could do this with the GUI tool... | 01:57 |
| Ilusion | :) | 01:57 |
| Ilusion | ok, back to apt-getting now... :) | 01:57 |
| Ilusion | cool! it mounted and its building the clinet.. hmm in the doc it says to take a coffe break, as it will take a long time.. since my client is an old k6450 with 128m of ram.. i think i"m gunna go home and let it run over night. Thank you for your help!! :) | 02:05 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:05 |
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| kwak | hi, how do i refresh ltsp setup? | 03:32 |
| sbalneav | Refresh as in update the packages? | 03:35 |
| sbalneav | You can respond either here, or #ltsp :) | 03:36 |
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| kwak | anybody knows how to install flash player, adobe acrobat, and java? | 04:01 |
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| gnomefreak | kwak: is it 32 bit ubuntu? | 04:08 |
| kwak | yes | 04:13 |
| gnomefreak | kwak: enable multiverse and universe repos and than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java5-jre and i cant remember acroread i think is the package | 04:14 |
| kwak | sorry newbie in ubuntu. how do i enable multiverse and universe? | 04:24 |
| kwak | repos | 04:24 |
| gnomefreak | !repos | 04:24 |
| ubotu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource | 04:24 |
| kwak | oic. il try it and check also the docs | 04:25 |
| kwak | thanks ubotu | 04:25 |
| kwak | i've heard the the another version of edubuntu will come out in two months. im using 6.06, will i be able to upgrade it without wiping the disk? | 04:33 |
| gnomefreak | kwak: yes | 04:34 |
| kwak | ok good. i got hit failed in updating repos. | 04:38 |
| kwak | it's not block on my content filter. | 04:39 |
| kwak | but still failing. | 04:39 |
| kwak | i got this message as well | 04:41 |
| kwak | E: couldn't find package... | 04:41 |
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| kwak | well, i already enabled all repos, and reload successful, but when i apt-get install, can't find the plugin. i also look for a guide in google and found one. but still cannot find the file. what could be wrong. | 05:11 |
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| Burgundavia | kwak: what areyo u looking for? | 05:21 |
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| Burgundavia | flashplugin-nonfree | 05:21 |
| kwak | yes | 05:22 |
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| kwak | i tried to issue this command | 05:22 |
| kwak | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree | 05:22 |
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| kwak | im here | 05:43 |
| sbalneav | ok, how did you add the repo? | 05:43 |
| sbalneav | do this: | 05:43 |
| kwak | i used software properties and synaptic | 05:44 |
| sbalneav | click on system->administration->Software Properties | 05:44 |
| kwak | yes did that. | 05:44 |
| sbalneav | Well, you didn't do it right, or it would have worked :) | 05:44 |
| sbalneav | So follow along with me... | 05:44 |
| kwak | i even checked everythingk | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | What does the top one say: | 05:45 |
| kwak | sorry | 05:45 |
| kwak | wrong message | 05:45 |
| kwak | ok i will follow | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | Should say: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (binary) | 05:45 |
| kwak | in the installation media? | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | Correct | 05:45 |
| kwak | yes it is ubuntu 6.06 | 05:46 |
| kwak | then | 05:47 |
| sbalneav | Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Binary)? | 05:47 |
| kwak | yes | 05:47 |
| sbalneav | ok, read what it says underneatth | 05:47 |
| kwak | ok. now i got it. i should click edit and check multiverse. | 05:49 |
| kwak | :) | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | if you've got it right, it should say 4 items: | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | Officially supported | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Restricted copyright | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Community Maintained (Universe) | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Non-free (multiverse) | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Then it should work. | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Lots of people in #ubuntu will try to get you to edit the file by hand... | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | They're smoking crack. Use the tool: it's much easier, and less error prone. | 05:51 |
| kwak | hehehe | 05:55 |
| kwak | yeah. but i don't ind command | 05:55 |
| kwak | line | 05:55 |
| kwak | have class. thanks sbalneav | 05:55 |
| sbalneav | np | 05:57 |
| kwak | 7 students are using now. is teachertool installed in edubuntu? | 06:08 |
| sbalneav | That I don't know. | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | I sure wish ogra was on :( | 06:31 |
| kwak | hi again sbalneav: do you know how to disable the shutdown button from client workstation. | 06:34 |
| sbalneav | heh | 06:34 |
| sbalneav | that one's a bug | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | ummm | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | hold on... | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | It's something you set in the gconf editor, but I can't quite find it | 06:38 |
| sbalneav | still googleing | 06:38 |
| kwak | i will try google also. | 06:41 |
| kwak | somebody shutdown the server then i it does't bott anymore | 06:41 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 06:42 |
| sbalneav | Umm, are you subscribed to the edubuntu mailing list? | 06:42 |
| kwak | not yet. | 06:42 |
| sbalneav | I'll look it up, and post something there tommorrow. | 06:42 |
| kwak | well it's working again after reboot | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | It's fixed in the next version already. | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | it's just a case of looking up what the fix is. | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | Search the edubuntu mailing list archives. | 06:43 |
| sbalneav | I think it's been covered already. | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | I believe so, although I can't remember the fix either | 06:44 |
| kwak | k | 06:45 |
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| magnon | Burgundavia: ping | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | magnon: pong | 08:40 |
| magnon | Does ubuntu have some support/service manager now? | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | yes, support is lead by Jeff Bailey | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | out of montreal | 08:41 |
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| Burgundavia | hey rodarvus | 08:41 |
| magnon | so he's very much asleep now then :P | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | magnon: very much so, yes | 08:41 |
| rodarvus | good morning | 08:41 |
| magnon | anyone in europe on that team? | 08:41 |
| rodarvus | hey Burgundavia | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | magnon: no, the entire support team is in montreal | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | however, they report to Jane | 08:42 |
| magnon | l2go worldwide :P | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | jane will be waking up and at work in about 2 hrs, I expect | 08:42 |
| magnon | sounds good :) | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | night | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | hey rodarvus | 08:54 |
| rodarvus | hi jsgotangco | 08:54 |
| jsgotangco | hows things? | 08:54 |
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| magnon | morning ogra :) | 09:03 |
| ogra | hey magnon ! :) | 09:04 |
| magnon | glorious morning! | 09:04 |
| magnon | btw, does anyone know of a mac terminal thas sucks less than Terminall.app? | 09:05 |
| magnon | -l | 09:05 |
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| willvdl | ola | 09:24 |
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| cbx33 | ping ogra | 09:25 |
| cbx33 | brb | 09:25 |
| kwak | anybody uses edubuntu for 25 clients? i want to know the performance. I noticed that the response is a little slow. | 09:26 |
| ogra | kwak, try turning the clients to 16bit colors, that speeds up a lot ... we default to 24bit currently (will change in the edgy release) | 09:27 |
| kwak | ogra: how do i do that? and when is the edgy release? | 09:27 |
| ogra | edgy is released in october | 09:27 |
| ogra | you create a file called: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf | 09:28 |
| ogra | put in the following two lines: | 09:28 |
| ogra | [default] | 09:28 |
| ogra | X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 | 09:28 |
| ogra | then reboot the clients :) | 09:28 |
| RichEd | hi kwak - are you Edwardson Pedragosa from my inbox ? | 09:28 |
| kwak | yes | 09:29 |
| RichEd | hi ogra | 09:29 |
| ogra | morning | 09:29 |
| kwak | hi RichEd. | 09:29 |
| RichEd | please (as a kind note) reailise that I am not the best person to mail with your individual user queries :) | 09:29 |
| kwak | i did a first test of my edubuntu server this morning. | 09:29 |
| kwak | np | 09:29 |
| RichEd | you will get better & faster reponses here in the channel ... | 09:29 |
| RichEd | i will also give you the mail lists in a sec ... those go to me and a bunch of other people, including the community ... who may be awake while others are sleeping | 09:30 |
| RichEd | how's the server ? look good ? | 09:31 |
| kwak | doing fine. i just experienced locked up this morning. The client clicked the hibernate button. | 09:31 |
| cbx33 | Mr OG !! | 09:32 |
| cbx33 | you got some time for your old buddy cbx33 to talk about SCP? :p | 09:32 |
| jsgotangco | hey you | 09:32 |
| jsgotangco | bribe him with wine | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | ogra: can we get hibernate taken off the shutdown menu? | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: any news on the "pack" stff? | 09:33 |
| cbx33 | sorry guys I know I'm being incredibly verbal today, but I may not be able to make the meeting, so I'm trying to get sorted all I can now | 09:34 |
| cbx33 | hi jsgotangco how are you | 09:34 |
| cbx33 | brb - 5 | 09:34 |
| jsgotangco | pretty good i had a haricut and bought stuff for myself | 09:34 |
| RichEd | kwak: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users | 09:35 |
| RichEd | kwak: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | 09:35 |
| RichEd | hs jsgotangco hi cbx33 | 09:35 |
| jsgotangco | hey RichEd how's the day | 09:36 |
| RichEd | cbx33: yep ... Will is taking the lead ... he digs organising information as a passion of his :) | 09:36 |
| RichEd | so you can expect a proj plan around case studies & info packs to emerge, probably by tomorrow afternoon. | 09:37 |
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| kwak | RichEd: thanks, i just joined that mailing list this morning | 09:37 |
| willvdl | we can chat about case studies in the meeting. need to feel out some opinions | 09:38 |
| RichEd | jsgotangco: bit wobbly ... still shaking off a head virus that was fighting with me yesterday ... thanks for asking | 09:38 |
| cbx33 | willvdl: Hi | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | oh not again | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | ....grrr | 09:39 |
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| cbx33 | I hate working support | 09:39 |
| kwak | how the question earlier: removing hibernate buttong? | 09:39 |
| kwak | button? | 09:39 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 09:39 |
| RichEd | hi will ... we'll discuss in theedubuntu meeting today and again 1-2-1- tomorrow after NEPAD | 09:39 |
| willvdl | excellent | 09:40 |
| === cbx33 is hoping he can get to some of the meeting | ||
| cbx33 | Lisa has to go to hospital today so I have to leave work early | 09:40 |
| RichEd | i need to do 1 year and 3 year plan for education ... all divisions have a task due 31 august ... i'll need your help with that | 09:40 |
| cbx33 | the new minutes are up | 09:40 |
| RichEd | so we will have a big section on: targetted documentation & info for various audiences | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: w00t | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | I hope ESA will help out there | 09:41 |
| jsgotangco | RichEd: the GILAS project only aims internet access so I guess we're a good sell here | 09:41 |
| willvdl | cool. I'm uploading my planned activities around Africa in general to the wiki today | 09:41 |
| RichEd | cbx33: hope it is not serious ? | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: nope | 09:41 |
| cbx33 | thankfully | 09:41 |
| RichEd | jsgotangco: yep, i've done the reading and cleared my understanding. will offer directed help, not tangential :) | 09:42 |
| jsgotangco | reduced cost of deployement because the platform is free is a good motivator | 09:42 |
| cbx33 | bbiab guys | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | currently network cabling in one room | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | then running back here to speak to you guys | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | :p | 09:43 |
| willvdl | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/06/ubuntu_linux_a_threat_to_mac_o.html | 09:47 |
| willvdl | from ubuntu-marketing | 09:47 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, ping | 09:49 |
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| highvoltage | willvdl: pong | 09:53 |
| pygi | morning highvoltage | 09:56 |
| highvoltage | morning pygi | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | mornin highvoltage | 09:59 |
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| highvoltage | mornin' cbx33 | 10:06 |
| highvoltage | how are you all today? | 10:06 |
| pygi | highvoltage, good, good, will get libisofs rewrite today probably :) | 10:08 |
| pygi | what about you? | 10:08 |
| highvoltage | going good, we're preparing for a big meeting we're having with 120 schools tomorrow | 10:11 |
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| pygi_ | <pygi> highvoltage, good, good, will get libisofs rewrite today probably :) | 10:11 |
| pygi_ | <pygi> what about you? | 10:11 |
| highvoltage | 10:11 <@highvoltage> going good, we're preparing for a big meeting we're having with 120 schools tomorrow | 10:12 |
| highvoltage | :p | 10:12 |
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| pygi_ | highvoltage, oh, nice :) | 10:17 |
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| RichEd | ogra : just checking if you will be attending the meeing today ? I'm presuming not | 10:57 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: good luck for the meeting | 10:58 |
| pygi_ | RichEd, you've got another mail | 11:00 |
| RichEd | pygi_: will check in a few mins ... | 11:00 |
| pygi_ | oki | 11:03 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: thanks | 11:05 |
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| ogra | RichEd, thats totally depending on connectivity over here ... my laptop is up and down ... but i'll try to attend | 11:08 |
| ogra | btw, sabayon works on ltsp with the recent version, even with xnest ;) | 11:09 |
| ogra | (got it running here currently) | 11:09 |
| RichEd | ogra: i'm getting traffic crawl & disconnects & lookup failures my side as well ... problems not confined to your pipe today :) | 11:10 |
| ogra | well, for me its surely the line here :) our setup is a bit crappy and under heavy load | 11:10 |
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| cbx33 | ogra: when do you think you'l have time for me and SCP? just asking so I can plan my day, I'll probably be unavailable from about 12 - 7 UTC | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | so I can either sqeeze it in now | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | or later in the evening? | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | if any of those times are good for you? | 11:23 |
| RichEd | pygi_: I've already been giving it some thought ... will mail or pvt you soon ... | 11:24 |
| cbx33 | brb | 11:24 |
| pygi_ | RichEd, thanks | 11:26 |
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| RichEd | ping pygi_ | 11:39 |
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| RichEd | question on "public/private information" : Is the info that Ubuntu is being tested on HPC (High Performance Comuting) boxes public domain ? Can a comunity member delivering an Ubuntu presentation at a University in Hungary next month mention this as a high level comment. No specific vendor mention, just that is an area we are being called into ? | 11:52 |
| jsgotangco | we do have kernels tuned for such and the server team are doing other platforms suited for HPC | 11:54 |
| jsgotangco | as for sites we know, i cannot say | 11:55 |
| willvdl | RichEd, are we UTC+1 or +2? keep forgetting... | 12:07 |
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| RichEd | willvdl: UTC = GMT for all intents & purposes as South Africans | 12:12 |
| RichEd | UTC stays as is ... GMT shifts when daylight savings becomes involved ... that's how I have it in my brain ... we have no daylight savings here so equivalent to me | 12:13 |
| willvdl | yeah but I can never remember when daylight savings turns on | 12:14 |
| willvdl | http://www.timeanddate.com/ <- they have a meeting planner | 12:14 |
| RichEd | willvdl: go into #ubuntu-meeting meet me there | 12:35 |
| RichEd | i'll show you some tricks ogra taught me | 12:35 |
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| rodarvus | I've just noticed we have Edubuntu meeting in one hour from now | 12:52 |
| rodarvus | ogra and I have another meeting in one hour | 12:53 |
| ogra | do we ? | 12:53 |
| rodarvus | unless we just chose not to attend it :) | 12:53 |
| highvoltage | rodarvus: that is not an option! | 12:55 |
| highvoltage | :) | 12:56 |
| rodarvus | highvoltage, right ;) | 01:01 |
| ogra | lunchtime ! | 01:01 |
| pygi | highvoltage, you shall soon drop mkisofs :) | 01:02 |
| highvoltage | pygi: really? can libburn make bootable cd's without mkisofs? | 01:03 |
| pygi | highvoltage, libisofs....but it doesn't support eltorito yet...I know how to do basic implementation tho (without multiple boot entries) | 01:03 |
| pygi | soon we'll have entire rewrite ready -- from 5k lines to 3k lines..and new implementation has new features :) | 01:05 |
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| pips1 | hi all | 01:43 |
| highvoltage | hi pips1 | 01:46 |
| lucasvo | ogra: how many times do I have to tell you? | 01:48 |
| lucasvo | ogra: why the heck am I subscribed to the same ML twice? | 01:49 |
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| pips1 | hey lucasvo | 01:49 |
| pygi | lucasvo, calm down pls :) | 01:50 |
| lucasvo | pygi: well, I asked about 4 times... | 01:50 |
| lucasvo | pygi: and its crap to get them twice | 01:50 |
| highvoltage | lucasvo: I get everything thrice | 01:51 |
| lucasvo | pips1: got to go now... I'll be back and answer in query in half an hour | 01:52 |
| pips1 | highvoltage hehe | 01:53 |
| pips1 | lucasvo oki | 01:53 |
| ogra | lucasvo, i told you 4 times now that we just copied the users from -devel t -users, if you dont want to be on one of them please usubscribe ... | 01:53 |
| ogra | :) | 01:54 |
| pygi | lol | 01:59 |
| RichEd | ------ edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ---- 1 minute ---- | 01:59 |
| RichEd | ------ edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting ---- now ---- | 02:00 |
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| lucasvo | pygi, ogra: And I told you a hunderd times that I am subscribed to edubuntu-users TWICE | 02:30 |
| lucasvo | and once to edubuntu-dev | 02:30 |
| lucasvo | I only need the -users once | 02:30 |
| ogra | lucasvo, how should that work ? | 02:30 |
| lucasvo | ogra: I don't know | 02:30 |
| ogra | i only noticed that your mails come in twice if you send them | 02:30 |
| lucasvo | ogra: but I know I get them twice | 02:30 |
| ogra | but mailman doesnt allow one address to be subscribed more than once to one list by design | 02:31 |
| lucasvo | yeah | 02:31 |
| lucasvo | is there a majordomo? | 02:31 |
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| pips1 | back here | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: the biggest notable difference i could find in edgy was gaim2 | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | it's a *huge* improvement on the gaim in dapper. | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | really | 03:04 |
| highvoltage | yep | 03:04 |
| willvdl | highvoltage, does it handle irc better? | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | hopefully this doesn't get borked | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | i have no machines at the moment except this laptop | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | willvdl: i normally use irssi for IRC, I didn't like IRC on Gaim previously, irssi just works well, so I stick to it | 03:05 |
| highvoltage | irssi also works in screen, which is a big ++ | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:06 |
| willvdl | ah. tarted off using gaim for irc until I realised I couldn't do pvt msg's | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | really? im pretty sure you can | 03:08 |
| highvoltage | you can | 03:08 |
| willvdl | could receive them but couldn't send | 03:08 |
| highvoltage | yes you can :) | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | double click on the nick you want to send a pvt? | 03:08 |
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| jsgotangco | highvoltage-gaim: show off | 03:09 |
| highvoltage-gaim | heh | 03:09 |
| willvdl | :P | 03:09 |
| pips1 | Has anyone ever seen hauntedpalace, toxictoadz, ulinskie in #edubuntu? | 03:09 |
| highvoltage-gaim | i have seen toxictoads in #edubuntu only once | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | ulinskie has been very busy at her work lately | 03:10 |
| willvdl | !seen hauntedpalace | 03:10 |
| highvoltage | at least, I have :) | 03:10 |
| ubotu | I haven't seen hauntedpalace recently | 03:10 |
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| pips1 | (they are all listed in LP as members of edubuntu-website) | 03:11 |
| pips1 | I am just trying to get an idea of who might be available to help :-) | 03:12 |
| pips1 | jsgotangco: so you know ulinskie.. | 03:12 |
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| pips1 | https://launchpad.net/people/loco-philippine-team wow! | 03:16 |
| highvoltage | pips1: that team needs some major re-form, really. all of them expressed interest to help | 03:19 |
| highvoltage | pips1: they just need some management and co-ordination | 03:19 |
| highvoltage | pips1: there are many people who would like to help, who doesn't really participate in IRC | 03:20 |
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| pips1 | yeah, let's get them going :-) | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | pips1: ive met her a few times already | 03:22 |
| jsgotangco | pips1: you will find her attractive | 03:22 |
| pips1 | I would like to know who works for a school, or currently study in school... | 03:23 |
| jsgotangco | she does | 03:23 |
| pips1 | ah, good to know | 03:23 |
| pips1 | isn't there a plugin for firefox that opens all links from a page as separate tags? | 03:25 |
| pips1 | s/tags/tabs | 03:26 |
| pips1 | ach, I meant ff extension, not plugin, of course | 03:27 |
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| willvdl | interesting, edubuntu installs on my new machine, but ubuntu hangs on uncompressing the kernel | 03:36 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all!! | 03:45 |
| pluto_ | night for me | 03:46 |
| willvdl | ola | 03:46 |
| sbalneav | ogra: pingity | 03:47 |
| pluto_ | hey does anybody have problems capturing audi from mic? | 03:48 |
| pluto_ | *audio | 03:48 |
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| willvdl | what hardware? | 03:52 |
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| DanielC | Hello everyone. I'm having a problem that is a bit hard to reproduce. If I boot up several (~5) clients right at the same time they all fail when trying to mount /opt/ltsp/i386. | 04:13 |
| DanielC | If I boot up any one client (or two) they boot up fine. | 04:13 |
| sbalneav | DanielC: Do you get a message like: "Waiting for NFS?" | 04:13 |
| DanielC | The error is "mount: PRC: Timed out; mount: nfsmount failed: Bad file descriptor" | 04:13 |
| DanielC | RPC | 04:14 |
| DanielC | "RPC timeout" is similar to "waiting for NFS", right? | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | what do you have for networking hardware? 10 base T? 100 base T? Switch or hub? | 04:14 |
| DanielC | Uhmm.... dunno. | 04:14 |
| DanielC | The cards are old. | 04:14 |
| DanielC | So 10 base is a safe bet. | 04:14 |
| DanielC | Switch most likely. | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | I'm willing to bet it's a hub | 04:15 |
| DanielC | Hmm... | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | You see that sort of thing on a hub: the clients start dropping packets, and it usually shows up as NFS timeouts. | 04:15 |
| DanielC | I see. | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | 5 clients booting at exactly the same time will generate a lot of traffic. | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | if you don't have a switch in place to moderate the traffic, you'll get a ton of collisions. | 04:16 |
| DanielC | And the room should be able to boot 20 clients at the same time. | 04:16 |
| DanielC | If we have a switch, but all the cards are old and 10-base, would that cause the same problem? | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | then you'll definitely want to make sure you've got a switch. | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | No, shouldn't. The machines will be slower, but they should function. | 04:17 |
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| sbalneav | And if they've got 10 meg cards, it's unlikely they have a switch. :) | 04:18 |
| DanielC | Well, we're reusing the old computers but I *think* we installed the switch or hub ourselves. | 04:18 |
| DanielC | I'll go ask the other people and see what we have. | 04:18 |
| DanielC | Thanks for the help! | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | No problem. | 04:18 |
| crimsun | willvdl: (btw, the patch for your speaker problem was submitted yesterday [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-August/001033.html] ) | 04:26 |
| willvdl | sweet. | 04:28 |
| willvdl | for the record, running on travelmate 4220 series (4222WLMi) | 04:31 |
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| pips1 | lucasvo: ping | 04:46 |
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| mhz | RichEd: hi there | 04:51 |
| mhz | hi all | 04:51 |
| pips1 | hi mhz | 04:51 |
| mhz | pips1: hi | 04:51 |
| pips1 | how are things in Chile? | 04:51 |
| mhz | pips1: well, in Chile, regarding Education? | 04:53 |
| mhz | or in general | 04:53 |
| mhz | ? | 04:53 |
| pips1 | in general | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | how's the moin scene in chile :P | 04:54 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: hey! you piece of hacker! :D | 04:54 |
| mhz | pips1: in general, interesting scenarios in economics, social, and politics | 04:54 |
| mhz | in education, Students are still forcing the Gov. to make serious modifications to education sys | 04:55 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: still smoking, drinking, and monitoring mobile porn? | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | shhhhh | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | oh i will probably escape the shackles of the mobile porn industry soonish | 04:58 |
| mhz | hehehehe | 04:59 |
| ogra | sbalneav, pong | 05:16 |
| mhz | ogra: hi there | 05:18 |
| mhz | ogra: do we get any Marketing/Stand Edubuntu material shipped with CD's upong 'special-request' ? | 05:18 |
| pips1 | mhz: that would be nice indeed :-) | 05:22 |
| mhz | I know we could apply to stickers and some few tshirts for LoCo's | 05:22 |
| mhz | and panflets | 05:23 |
| mhz | or leaflets | 05:23 |
| pips1 | mhz, oh right, there are student protests | 05:23 |
| mhz | hehehe | 05:23 |
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| mhz | in Chile? yes | 05:23 |
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| pips1 | are they still going on? in santiago, or in other places too? | 05:23 |
| mhz | Santiago and regions | 05:24 |
| mhz | lastime, protests lasted about 3 weeks | 05:24 |
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| mhz | no stdudents going to school for long time, it is not good | 05:24 |
| pips1 | valparaiso | 05:25 |
| mhz | indeed | 05:25 |
| ogra | mhz, thats a RichEd question ... | 05:25 |
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| mhz | ogra: okis, thx | 05:27 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: Hey! How's the sprint! Saw the update on the xnest bug! rodarvus need any help with the nbd stuff, or is there something else I can kick in on? | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Hello | 05:37 |
| mhz | ping RichEd | 05:38 |
| willvdl | mhz, I think he's feeling a bit ill | 05:39 |
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| mhz | oops | 05:39 |
| mhz | willvdl: thx | 05:39 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | Read before installing | ||
| === Topic (#edubuntu): set by albgeist at Mon Aug 14 18:11:51 2006 | ||
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| ogra | that makes a sound ? | 06:16 |
| willvdl | does in XP | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | ogra: hi! | 06:16 |
| ogra | hey | 06:16 |
| willvdl | course if it reallllly overheats then it makes an oozing sound | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I wanted to ask about edubuntu-dynamic-menus | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | is it dropped for Edgy completely? | 06:18 |
| ogra | yes, unless you implement it before sept 7th | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | I wanted to do a mockup this week | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not sure if I can make it very functional before the 7th | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | a question I had was if we wanted to us /etc/group for user->group mappings or use a seperate tool | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | s/tool/file/ | 06:23 |
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| === mhz prefers /etc/group but... he's a face in the crowd ;) | ||
| ogra | me too | 06:25 |
| ogra | /etc/group already has a GUI ;) | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | true | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | although it might be a little odd to seperate out menu groups from other groups | 06:26 |
| ogra | i just used it to add local device support for ltsp users as well ... by switching on/off the fuse group | 06:26 |
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| LaserJock | I figured the easiest thing to do initially would be install some .menu files and create some groups | 06:30 |
| mhz | oh, true too | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | and then figure out a way to get the .menu files to the users | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | either somehow setting XDG_DATA_DIR or by having a update-tool that would drop the menu files in each ~/ | 06:31 |
| mhz | hmm | 06:32 |
| mhz | and would that work for e.g. 200 users ? | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | I would hope so | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | that's what we need to test | 06:33 |
| mhz | what kind of env. would it be ideal to test it? | 06:33 |
| mhz | I mean, can we emulate 200 users ? | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | hehe, an LTSP school lab | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | I can always create a bunch of users on my machine | 06:34 |
| mhz | yeah, i thought you'd say something like that | 06:34 |
| mhz | me too | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | probably not 200 | 06:34 |
| mhz | hmm, I can test it on a cibercafe with 10 clients ;) | 06:35 |
| ogra | LaserJock, is there no way to not touch ~/ ? | 06:35 |
| ogra | we should urgently avoid touching it if any possible | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | that's what alacarte does | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | that's why I was thinking of it | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | but I can look in the sabayon code and see how they do it | 06:36 |
| sbalneav | ogra: OK, leave the mods to ltspinfod to me. | 06:37 |
| sbalneav | I'll do that tonight. | 06:37 |
| ogra | LaserJock, ignore sabayon, look what xdg offers there | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | well, we still need to set XDG_DATA_DIR on a per user basis | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | maybe kiosktool would shed some light on that | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to keep it simple | 06:40 |
| ogra | right | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | the thing is, as far as I can see, nobody thinks about this sort of thing | 06:40 |
| ogra | thast why i thin a /usr/share/edubuntu-menus/<group> dir added to the system default would be the right way | 06:41 |
| ogra | and then just drop per group .menu files in there | 06:41 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, sabayon drops a complete profile in a .zip file | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: over the user's ~/ ? | 06:41 |
| ogra | and have a tool that starts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d that sets the variables right on a per group base | 06:42 |
| Burgwork | no, wherever you ant | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | k | 06:42 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, talk with whiprush, he uses sabayon extensively | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | ogra: ok, but how do I get that tool in. That seems like a pretty invasive change? | 06:42 |
| Burgwork | building default sabayon profiles also allows end users to edit them via sabayon | 06:42 |
| Burgwork | rather than have to hack up our own tool | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but sabayon is pretty much a no-go IMO because you cannot have a user belong to more than one profile | 06:43 |
| Burgwork | no, you can't | 06:43 |
| ogra | LaserJock, not 1% as invasive as touching all users homedirs | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | XDG has some mergeing built in | 06:43 |
| Burgwork | right | 06:43 |
| Ilusion | might I trouble you folks with a query or two? :) | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | ogra: true :-) | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | grrr, I sure wish edgy wouldn't mess up all my mounting | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | I booted this morning and now I have no /home | 06:45 |
| Ilusion | I installed a edubuntu amd64 iso on my amd64 3500 machine... I then tried to PXE boot the my 800mhz WS's and they complain they are not amd64s.. So I got pointed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup and followed those instructions, the system still complained about not be amd 64.. | 06:46 |
| Ilusion | so, I got advice on the mailing list to do this: just do the following: sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/amd64 sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 after the setup finished you have a running environment for i386 clients | 06:46 |
| Ilusion | i did that, now the ws's get a DHCP address and then stop with "no os" at all :( | 06:47 |
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| ogra | urgh | 06:47 |
| ogra | these instrctions are only for incompatible CPU versions | 06:47 |
| ogra | like powerpc clients on intel or amd64 servers | 06:48 |
| Ilusion | ok, so about the second advice... | 06:48 |
| Ilusion | "sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/amd64 sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 " | 06:48 |
| Ilusion | that appeared to work, but its not giving it out to the ws's | 06:48 |
| ogra | that wont work | 06:48 |
| Ilusion | nutz | 06:48 |
| ogra | these are two commands | 06:48 |
| ogra | you cant issue them in one line | 06:48 |
| ogra | sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/amd64 | 06:49 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 | 06:49 |
| Petaris | I just wrote a mass user creation script if anyone is interested | 06:49 |
| Ilusion | ah.. i know that.. i issued them on two lines as two commands... they worked individually | 06:49 |
| ogra | ok | 06:49 |
| Ilusion | i now have an /opt/ltsp/i386 folder | 06:49 |
| ogra | does /opt/ltsp/i386 exist and have a system in it ? | 06:49 |
| ogra | ok | 06:49 |
| LaserJock | ok, how about this: | 06:49 |
| ogra | are you on dapper (6.06) ? | 06:50 |
| Ilusion | yep (6.06 AMD iso) | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | 1) create groups in /etc/group | 06:50 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-update-kernels | 06:50 |
| ogra | try that command | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | 2) install .menus in /usr/share/edubuntu-menus/<group> | 06:50 |
| ogra | and then try to boot a client again | 06:51 |
| ogra | LaserJock, sounds good so far | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | 3) place script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ that check what groups a user belongs to and checks if any of those groups are in /usr/share/edubuntu-menus/<group> | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | and then sets XDG_DATA_DIR accordingly | 06:51 |
| ogra | yep | 06:52 |
| Ilusion | did the sudo ltsp-update-kernels.. it seems to work (no discerabler errors produced) and then retried PXE booting the WS, still gets IP via dhcp then times out asking for OS.. | 06:52 |
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| Ilusion | cr@p. "worK" calling me... Be right back! :) | 06:53 |
| Petaris | but you can specify the basename, the starting number, the total to create, and the password | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | ogra: ok, should I rewrite the spec? I think that we can do that before sept. 7th. | 06:54 |
| ogra | you can rewrite the spac afterwards ;) | 06:55 |
| ogra | *spec | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | heh, ok | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | I have a much clearer idea of what to do | 06:55 |
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| ajayc | RichEd: ping | 06:56 |
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| mhz | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980118 | 07:03 |
| mhz | lol | 07:03 |
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| Petaris | mhz: hahaha | 07:12 |
| mhz | yup, just loved it | 07:13 |
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| ggeller | My Edubuntu 6.06.1 install konked out in the middle. Is there a way to restart it? | 07:25 |
| ggeller | Ctrl-Alt-F2 doesn't bring up another console. I just see a black screen. | 07:26 |
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| cbx33 | ping the pygi_ | 07:27 |
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| mhz_off | bye all | 08:09 |
| mhz_off | RichEd: please email me when you could be ok to meet on IRC | 08:09 |
| cbx33 | hey mr ogra | 08:12 |
| cbx33 | I have 10 minutes before my sister comes to visit | 08:12 |
| cbx33 | anychace you could squeeze me in? | 08:12 |
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| kendrick | hello! | 09:04 |
| kendrick | i'm lead developer of Tux Paint. someone emailed me today saying they were trying to install Tux Paint on a PPC Edubuntu install, and it claimed that Tux Paint isn't available for it... | 09:05 |
| kendrick | it's actually more confusing than that, he said it /installed/, but when he went to /launch/ it, it complained: | 09:05 |
| kendrick | "It went fine, all installed, but Tux Paint claims that it isn't available for that platform when I try to launch it." | 09:05 |
| kendrick | i've got _Ku_buntu on an _Intel_, so i really have no idea what he's talking about. can someone here give me a hand? :) | 09:05 |
| Ilusion | Hi kendrick! I can't help with the issue you describe but I wantedto say THANK YOU for tux paint! It is a wonderful program! :) | 09:07 |
| kendrick | :) you're welcome! | 09:08 |
| kendrick | is there some kind of package list for edubuntu? (similar to packages.debian.org?) | 09:08 |
| === Ilusion is a n00b.. trying to get edubuntu LTSP to work.. not very luky so far | ||
| kendrick | i know for a fact that tux paint works on PPC ebcaus one of the developers uses it :) | 09:08 |
| Ilusion | 4 months of linux experience after 15 yrs of netware/windows... | 09:08 |
| kendrick | feels good, huh? ;) | 09:08 |
| Ilusion | so i'm just a leech here.. :) | 09:09 |
| Petaris | kendrick: I would help you debug but no ppc here | 09:09 |
| kendrick | not that i ever spent 15yrs doing windows, but... i can imagine *shudder* | 09:09 |
| kendrick | Petaris: heh | 09:09 |
| sbalneav | Ilusion: What problem are you having? | 09:09 |
| Ilusion | kendrick - look here to see the classroom I'm supporting.. | 09:09 |
| Ilusion | http://www.notepad.org/jackies/ | 09:09 |
| Ilusion | all of those have tux paint :) | 09:10 |
| kendrick | awesome :) | 09:10 |
| Ilusion | sbalneav- TIA :) Ok, heres the saga: | 09:10 |
| Petaris | tux paint is really popular at the elementary school here | 09:10 |
| kendrick | :D | 09:10 |
| Petaris | tux typing would be too if it didn't suck resources like a blackhole | 09:11 |
| kendrick | i thought they were working on that :) | 09:11 |
| kendrick | Petaris: was this ltsp? | 09:11 |
| Petaris | yep | 09:12 |
| Petaris | I think they are working on it, but I don't know that the problem has been solved yet | 09:12 |
| Ilusion | I installed a edubuntu amd64 iso on my amd64 3500 machine... I then tried to PXE boot the my 800mhz WS's and they complain they are not amd64s.. So I got pointed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup and followed those instructions, the system still complained about not be amd 64.. | 09:13 |
| Ilusion | so, I got advice on the mailing list to do this: just do the following: sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/amd64 sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 after the setup finished you have a running environment for i386 clients | 09:13 |
| Ilusion | did that, now the ws's get a DHCP address and then stop with "no os" at all :( | 09:13 |
| Petaris | Ilusion: sometimes you have to run ltsp-build-client a quite a few times to get it to actually finish and not just error out | 09:14 |
| === Petaris notes that this is just _his_ experiance with it | ||
| Petaris | I run dual opteron servers here | 09:15 |
| Ilusion | when i ran ltsp-build-client, i didnt see any obvious error messages... it appeared to finish cleanly..? | 09:15 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:15 |
| Ilusion | how would I check? | 09:15 |
| Petaris | did you restart | 09:15 |
| sbalneav | I've never done a cross platform install before... | 09:15 |
| Ilusion | heh... <old windows guy> of *course*! ;) | 09:15 |
| Petaris | at the very least restart tftpd | 09:15 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:16 |
| sbalneav | My immediate suggestion would be: install edubuntu on a ia32 platform, grab the /opt/ltsp/i386 dir, and rsync/scp it over to the x64 box | 09:16 |
| kendrick | heh | 09:16 |
| Petaris | ogra: I noticed that some clients are still booting to tty1 instead of tty7 | 09:16 |
| Petaris | *on dapper | 09:17 |
| Petaris | kendrick: I would just nix the /opt/ltsp/i386 dir and run ltsp-build-client again | 09:17 |
| Ilusion | so sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 then build again? | 09:18 |
| kendrick | Petaris: Ilusion, you mean. :) | 09:18 |
| Petaris | oh, yeah | 09:18 |
| Petaris | Ilusion: yep | 09:18 |
| Petaris | isn't it -Rf though? | 09:18 |
| === Petaris looks | ||
| Petaris | oh, its either | 09:19 |
| Ilusion | the weird thing is that the PXE station is getting an IP via DHCP, but its not getting offered the boot image... | 09:19 |
| kendrick | ok, well, i told the fellow who asked about Tux Paint on PPC that Edubuntu _claims_ it's "in universe, for all three platforms", so i dunno wtf is going on :^/ | 09:20 |
| kendrick | hopefully he can find someone in the edubuntu community who can help him. worst case, he can install from source. :) | 09:21 |
| kendrick | thanks and take it easy! | 09:21 |
| Ilusion | thanks again for your program ! :) | 09:21 |
| Petaris | later kendrick | 09:21 |
| kendrick | you're welcome! enjoy! :) :) | 09:21 |
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| pygi | highvoltage, poke, poke, good news! | 10:32 |
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| Burgwork | pygi, good news? | 10:33 |
| Burgwork | hey th1a | 10:33 |
| pygi | Burgwork, yes, cdrskin (libburn-on-cdrecord layer) now 99% supports audio burning | 10:33 |
| pygi | we just have some rough edges | 10:34 |
| Burgwork | does that replace cdrecord? | 10:34 |
| === pygi nods :) | ||
| Burgwork | the newly CDDL cdrecord | 10:34 |
| pygi | eh, not in that way :) | 10:35 |
| Burgwork | I was referring to the actual thing | 10:35 |
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| pygi | well, cdrskin provides syntax same as cdrecord | 10:35 |
| pygi | meaning, you can use cdrskin to work with k3b without cdrecord :) | 10:36 |
| Burgwork | cool | 10:36 |
| Burgwork | what are other distros doing about the cdrecord issue? | 10:36 |
| Burgwork | it strikes me that it would make sense to have a common thing | 10:36 |
| pygi | well, everybody thinking about libburn & frontends (cdrskin && genisofs) | 10:37 |
| sbalneav | Excuse my ignorance, but what is "the cdrecord issue"? | 10:38 |
| pygi | Burgwork, ubuntu isn't using cdrskin :) | 10:38 |
| pygi | sbalneav, most distros dropping cdrecord | 10:38 |
| sbalneav | Oh? Howcome? | 10:38 |
| pygi | sbalneav, licence issues and "Joerg" issues | 10:38 |
| sbalneav | Ah. I've heard rumours he can be a bit of a bear. | 10:39 |
| Burgwork | he recently changed the build system to cddl | 10:39 |
| pygi | schilly makefileystem :P | 10:40 |
| pygi | Burgwork, I know I've got a lot of mails about libburn ^_^ | 10:40 |
| Burgwork | yep | 10:40 |
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| pygi | Burgwork, you wanna burn cd's without cdrecord? I would be grateful :) | 10:43 |
| Petaris | anyone know if there is an IRC channel for PAM anywhere? | 10:49 |
| Petaris | more specifically for pam_mount | 10:49 |
| sbalneav | Heading home for the day. | 10:50 |
| sbalneav | Be on later tonight. | 10:50 |
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