=== johnmark [n=johnmark@66-7-254-75.static-ip.telepacific.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [12:57] a friend of mine just did: [12:57] $ sudo emerge ubuntu-desktop [12:58] gahahaha [12:58] he is a ricer [12:58] gentoo must die! [12:58] :p === poningru is a gentooer === poningru <3 consus [12:58] err thats my other comp === nixternal leaves [12:59] rofl === moocow [n=chris@81-179-103-62.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === moocow is now known as mooey === lophyte [n=dave@HSE-MTL-ppp70578.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:59] spending time with the suse people: http://www.whiprush.org/images/222285870_812ec204c2_b_1.jpg [01:59] rofl [02:07] that looks pretty tasty [02:08] http://whiprush.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/222197228_fed9f3d4c9_b_1.jpg === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:17] damn... too... many...jokes... [02:17] must... [02:18] yeah i know [02:18] where can I buy a glass penguin? [02:18] thats a penguin?? [02:19] theres a punchline right there [02:19] johnlittle: you need to win one [02:19] we were commenting on the one you won [02:19] burgundavia: I guess carrying a glass penguin and passing yourself off as a linux trivia winner to meet women isn't very cool is it? [02:19] http://whiprush.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/222197228_fed9f3d4c9_b_1.jpg [02:20] johnlittle: dude, absolutely. That so explains why I got stood up this evening [02:20] whiprush is just cooler than me [02:20] burgundavia: theres some mojo in that trophy though..i must have it [02:20] indeed [02:20] who gets to keep it? [02:20] there were three [02:20] we each got one [02:21] woah [02:21] nice [02:21] cool [02:21] nice paperweight [02:21] or with the right chain..bling [02:22] rofl === poningru can see Burgundavia wearing that [02:22] hmm /me wonders if elkbuntu or madpilot will gimp it for us [02:22] dude, the thing is about 60cm tall [02:22] uh... so? [02:22] poningru: madpilot can take a picture of it, given he is my brother [02:23] right [02:23] oh right [02:23] but I didnt think you would want to put a hole through that thing [02:23] no [02:23] there was a discussion of bongs or beer mugs, however [02:23] slashdot sucks [02:24] they rejected my ubucon post :( [02:27] hehe [02:28] funny how ubuntu finds its way into every episode of Go Open :) [02:28] not really [02:29] ^^sarcasm === Burgundavia was not born yesterday [02:29] lol [02:29] gaaah [02:30] although the waitresses in SF apparently thought I was 16 [02:30] I wish Mark would make more stuff like that..for internet distribution only [02:30] 16,..damn [02:32] dude, I turned 24 on the 18th [02:32] Ont of the Blender Foundation guys was asking me about getting Blender on the default install..seems unlikely to me but is there someone he can contact? [02:32] never going to happen [02:33] Thats what I thought [02:33] gimp is already in dicey waters [02:33] why? [02:33] not enough people actually use the thing [02:33] it is a really powerful photoeditor [02:33] people do things like crop, remove redeye, etc. [02:36] How do we measure usage on apps? [02:36] popcon can tell us [02:36] people that doesn't really tell us what people use an app for [02:36] that is more subjective [02:36] johnlittle: the number of questions [02:36] on forums, irc etc. [02:37] there are ways [02:37] no really objective ways === poningru thinks they should go from gimp -> gpaint [02:37] yeah [02:37] ofcourse [02:37] its a 'feeling' [02:37] with fspot, there is an arguement to remove both eog and the gimp [02:37] I don't think we are quite there yet [02:38] eog??? [02:38] are you kidding me? [02:38] with fspot? [02:38] fspot is already there [02:38] to replace grthumb [02:38] ai no [02:38] but fspot has a view mode and an edit/sort mode [02:38] as long as fspot is fast enough, it is ok [02:39] I am a big fspot user too [02:39] eog, that is [02:39] but last I checked it was pretty crappy... [02:39] that was back in breezy [02:39] right [02:39] that would be like trying the linux desktop in 2000 and saying it sucked in 2006 [02:43] ... [02:43] dude 6 months ago [02:43] poningru: please rationally tell me why fspot lacks what eog does, aside from the speed issue [02:43] well you took away the one and only problem [02:43] and stability [02:43] not a major issue [02:44] those should be easily fixable [02:44] as in its solved or it shouldnt matter to people? [02:44] knowing Burgundavia its the former... [02:44] solved [02:44] lol [02:47] see I would install fspot on this right now [02:47] but ... edgy [02:47] if its crashy and stuff... I cant properly blame fspot [02:48] if its gnome why isnt it called g-spot? ;) [02:48] rofl === rjian [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:48] because users would never find it..of course [02:50] johnlittle: naming stuff with a G is dead in the GNOME community, thankfully [02:50] as it should be [02:52] I did that with b when I had my company but we had like 10 apps..it wasn't that annoying. browsing KDE apps makes me want totorture small animals [02:53] torture [02:53] Burgundavia: any word from that woman? [02:53] lophyte: yes, order away [02:53] Burgundavia: awesome. are you gonna set a date and call it official then, or..? [02:54] si tu veux [02:54] my french isn't all that great :\ [02:56] if you want [02:57] are you gonna start it up? [03:06] or what did you have in mind? [03:06] is there any chance of getting Ubuntu Video linked from any other community sites? [03:06] http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/lloyd/male [03:08] I dont get it [03:08] 'splain it === lophyte wonders where Burgundavia went === Rinchen [n=Rinchen@ubuntu/member/rinchen] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:30] lophyte: am, here [03:30] making dinner [03:30] ah [03:30] forgot about the time difference [03:32] so what did you have in mind for this project? are you gonna lead it? [03:33] I want to promote Ubuntu. I will lead the effort to connect lugs [03:33] we are promoting Ubuntu.. that's the whole point of the project [03:36] yarr [03:41] so, what about setting a date? [03:42] I don't think we have enough time to aim for SFD [03:42] I think we do [03:43] that's really pushing it.. and that's even if we can get CDs in 3 weeks. [03:44] trying to do what now? [03:44] organize a Canada-wide marketing campaign of sorts [03:44] Burgundavia: is this ca only? or going for a bit broader [03:45] well, not necessarily.. that's just how it started [03:53] well, I'm gonna talk to the Toronto guys tomorrow. [03:53] but we need to get on this ASAP if we're doing it on SFD [03:54] whats the goal? [03:57] promoting Ubuntu, ultimately ;P === rjia1 [n=IHMC@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjia1 is now known as rjian [04:08] hehe [04:14] well, I'll talk to the Toronto guys tomorrow and see what they think [04:15] poningru: SFD is worldwide [04:16] Burgundavia: I know [04:16] talking about your movement [04:16] just ca [04:16] and I'll try to get together a Toronto team [04:16] ah [04:18] Burgundavia: are you gonna post to the mailing list about it? [04:18] I will [04:18] k. [04:18] we should figure out what cities we have the most people in [04:18] and target those [04:18] obviously Vancouver and Toronto are on that list.. but figure out where else we have people form [04:19] s/form/from [04:20] I'm still skeptical about the date though :\ [04:20] 5 CDs took almost 3 weeks.. I can't imagine a bigger batch being quicker [04:21] marilize will expedite it [04:22] do I need to put a special note in there for that? [04:22] like ATTN marilize or something [04:22] yep [04:22] alright [04:22] now for the big question.. how many? ;P [04:23] I would ask the toronto guys [04:23] alright.. I'll bring it up tomorrow night go from there [04:23] I'll also put an ad up in the Linux Caffe, and on craigslist, for Ubuntu fans/users in Toronto to help out with the Toronto team's marketing effort [04:24] did you say it was the 16th? [04:25] yep [04:25] k, i'll make note of it [04:27] cool.. I'll let you know what the Toronto guys say [04:27] I'll email you.. I probably won't be home until 10 or 11PM and by that time, I'll be heading to bed [04:31] anyway, I'm off for bed [04:32] night === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian is now known as _rjian === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === __rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnmark [n=johnmark@66-7-254-75.static-ip.telepacific.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === _rjian is now known as rjian === Steggy [n=josh_ste@p119n38.163.63.ruraltel.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [06:49] so the only reply to my ML question about videos is a post telling me what I'm doing is wrong.. === johnlittle bangs his head on his keyboard [06:53] responses that don't disagree with you are a bit pointless [06:54] eh? [06:54] if you aren't adding anything to the discussion why send a mail? [06:55] sorry that was a general you not you sepcifically [06:55] well since I requested assistance maybe that could have been offered instead [06:57] only if people know of videos (and the whole point of ubuntu video is that most people don't - so you have managed to prove that it is needed :) ) [06:59] Maybe. I just find negativity - esp. from people who aren't offering constructive criticism or alternatives frustrating [07:00] the flash is e evil point is going to be made repeatly, you just need to keep explaining why you are using it and not let it bother you. [07:01] Yeah that's why I wrote the FAQ. It's only frustrating becuase it's midnight and I'm dog tired. [07:02] Give me six hours of sleep and I will personally duel RMS - blindfolded [07:02] sounds like fun. [07:02] his kung fu is strong [07:29] johnlittle, did you see my pm yesterday? === Steggy [n=josh_ste@p119n38.163.63.ruraltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === _rjian [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Steggy [n=josh_ste@p119n38.163.63.ruraltel.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:08] elbuntu the link to the vid? [08:08] er elkbuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.158.234.39.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:20] johnlittle: nice reply sent [08:21] too snarky? [08:22] johnlittle, yeah, the link to the .ogg [08:22] ah heh..thx. my frustration passed [08:22] johnlittle: no, I sent a nice reply because you were saying the only person who responded to your email bitched [08:22] it can hard, sometimes [08:22] worse is being ignored === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:24] Burgundavia: Yeah I don't mind ppl disagreeing but offer an alternative or something constructive at least. No big deal though. Just need some sleep :) [08:24] elkbuntu: yeah i sent a reply. thx for the link. i added it to the kibo post [08:24] oh.. you're not serving it from my server are you? [08:25] um not as soon as I kill the link lol [08:25] move it to somewhere that isnt on as crappy a bandwidth limit as my isp [08:26] yarr [08:26] how big is the file? [08:26] #.o -(YArr!) [08:27] <1mb, but still if it gets hit a few hundred times, the 10gb/mth limit im on wont last long === ormiret has plenty of spare bandwidth if you're looking for a host [08:27] sounds good to me [08:28] can you host http://meldra.no-ip.info/akamaru_kiba.ogg then ormiret? [08:28] I'm just going to link it from the individual post so it shouldn't get hammered [08:28] please* :) [08:32] http://ormiret.com/ubuntu/akamaru_kiba.ogg [08:33] http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/the_kiba_dock [08:34] <_rjian> wow too many links hehe === _rjian is now known as rjian [08:36] That work for you ormiret? [08:36] firefox tries to display it as text here [08:36] I'm trying to figure out mime types now [08:36] whoa [08:36] yeah [08:37] maybe the viewer needs special .ogg goggles [08:37] ;) [08:37] any idea what MIME type ogg should have? [08:37] application/ogg [08:39] thanks poningru. should work now. [08:39] video/x-theora it says on one site [08:39] o.O did i encode it wrong? [08:40] elkbuntu: video's fine, my server wasn't [08:40] ah [08:40] still text here [08:41] thats your cache [08:42] shift+ctrl+r [08:42] i cleared cache [08:42] 0.o [08:42] wfm [08:42] I switched it video/x-theora [08:43] mplayer plugin doesn't catch it now here - work any better for you johnlittle [08:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg [08:44] nope..weird [08:44] havent had issues playing ogg before [08:44] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3534 [08:45] guys seriously its your cache [08:45] it worked for me [08:46] works fine for me also [08:47] ormiret: make sure the mime is application/ogg [08:47] poningru: yeah, I switched back to that [08:47] sort of cropped the bottom off it though... [08:47] night [08:48] nn [08:48] nite === rjian is now known as rjian[O-U-T] [08:49] johnlittle: http://ormiret.com/akamaru_kiba.ogg work any better? [08:50] i have to hit the bed its 2 am and im up at 6...thx for the vido and hosting [08:50] (different URL to fool caches..) [08:50] that worked [08:50] I cleared cache multiple times but firefox must not be cooperating [08:50] not even ctrl f5? [08:51] nope [08:51] how silly [08:51] i agree [08:51] does your ISP do any cacheing? [08:52] not to my knowledge [08:52] it wouldn't be the first time I had a browser not cooperate though === rjian501 [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:52] im off..falling asleep [08:53] cya johnlittle === rjian501 is now known as rjian [08:53] thx ppl [08:53] night === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FF566.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian[O-U-T] [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian[O-U-T] [n=rjian_se@203.87.182.102] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === matthewrevell [i=synchron@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === PlHL [n=pihl@port134.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Pihl [n=pihl@port134.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === PlHL [n=pihl@port134.ds1-gjp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@0x503ea7a3.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM_ [n=mitch@bouncer.kci.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FF566.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@0x503ea7a3.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@0x503ea7a3.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM__ [n=mitch@bouncer.kci.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-marketing.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | UWN #10 is out | Channel logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by jenda at Sun Aug 20 15:04:01 2006 === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["No] === spiral777 [n=spiral@ip70-186-103-228.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@pD95FF566.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === RichJ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM [n=mitch@bouncer.kci.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnmark [n=johnmark@66-7-254-75.static-ip.telepacific.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:15] hi guys, can you help me digg the ubucon wrap-up? [09:15] http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_UbuCon_Was_a_Blast [09:15] already done [09:15] sweet... thanks === MenZa [n=menza@0x503ea7a3.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === johnmark [n=johnmark@66-7-254-75.static-ip.telepacific.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["must] === airjump [n=airjump@p508AEF96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:31] 4 so far [10:33] ompaul, 4? [10:33] diggs === airjump [n=airjump@p508AEF96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === RichJ [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-marketing