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sutabianyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-2612:01
Warbocrunch: X is the graphics server. By "bare X" I meant getting the graphics server up without any kind of interface, desktop or anything. Just X. If you can get that going at all then there may be hope12:01
crunchdo you think damn small linux would work instead?12:01
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sethkcrunch, it is already working.12:01
jvaihttp://www.nubuntu.org/12:01
livingdaylightnekostar: did i understand you right?12:01
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Warbocrunch: DSL just uses Fluxbox, which Ubuntu can use as well12:01
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sethkcrunch, damn small linux will give you the same capabilities you already have12:01
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Warbosethk: Actually, less :)12:02
Thunderpantswell said sethk12:02
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Bassettsi need help asap, i just started my pc and it says x is not working and gdm cant be starter12:02
crunchdamnit12:02
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lamegoBassetts, read the topic12:02
chalcednyi'll try again... my HP all-in-one printer is printing every other line or so with the Linux drivers.. <sigh>12:02
crunchso what do i do12:02
Bassettslamego: cant see it in irssi12:02
Thunderpantsgive it to charity crunch12:02
mweBassetts: type /topic12:03
WarboI felt quite offended by DSL including Firefox. Not only does it seem to go against the idea of eliminating bloat (they already have DillO), but it doesn't work when I try it :)12:03
avubassetts: /topic12:03
lamegoBassetts, type /topic12:03
Bassettsthanks12:03
avu:)12:03
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crunchhaha no way12:03
crunchthey wouldn't want it12:03
jvaihttp://www.nubuntu.org/12:03
Thunderpantswhat use is it12:03
Flanneljanbanan: yeah, that'sa good idea.12:03
Bassettslamego: how do i restart my pc from the terminal?12:03
lamegoBassetts, you dont need to restart your prc12:03
jbroome!xorgbug12:03
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')12:03
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lamegoBassetts, have you applied the fix ?12:04
crunchso what is my best option if i want a gui interface os then12:04
chalcednyWarbo, the Mozilla people have their support on some small and distant irc net.12:04
WarboLiveCD takes more resources than installed, would crunch be better off installing from a different PC then swapping the drive back?12:04
crunchwindows 95 or summint12:04
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Bassettslamego:no, i dont know how to read the webpage from terminal12:04
lupinelynx. or links.12:04
Bassettsi have i68612:04
chalcednycrunch, download the live cd of ubuntu ;)12:04
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lamego!! xorgbugfix12:04
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.12:04
jvaiwill dapper run fastr w/ fluxbox?12:04
eternalswdI'm having a problem in xampp.  Does anyone know of a good channel or resource for getting help, the xampp irc channel is basically empty.12:04
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crunchi have the live one12:04
Bassettslupine: how do i change to a second terminal??12:04
WarboI prefer lynx from terminal, as links doesn't let me access SSL (which help.ubuntu.com uses)12:05
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jaysefplease does anyone use tor ?12:05
gravesonwhat can i use to convert and mp4 file to avi12:05
chalcednycrunch, what's it doing with that ?12:05
VictorI_which is the newest ubuntu release?12:05
VictorI_dapper?12:05
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jbroomey12:05
FlannelVictorI_: right12:05
Warbo!release12:05
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases12:05
eternalswdgraveson, for what purpose do you need to do so?12:05
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hangfirevictor- edgy is the beta release12:06
chalcednygraveson, you could look at Audacity maybe12:06
VictorI_which kernel does dapper ship with12:06
gravesoni have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?12:06
WarboRemeber: "beta" is NOT pronounced "better" :)12:06
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VictorI_i am currently having issues with the debian-installer on a rackpoint eepro100 nic card, going to give ubuntu a try12:06
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crunchim running my live 5.04 now and ill get back to you when it loads up12:06
VictorI_rack mount*12:06
gravesoneternalswd: i have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?12:06
avuvictori_: 2.6.1512:07
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jvailol @ warbo12:07
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eternalswdgraveson, your best bet would be mencoder ( it comes with mplayer )12:07
verus_hi all. i updated my ubuntu today and it only downloaded and installed one package (something with Xserver) now my X does not start up correctly and the error log is not usefull at all. anybody an idea, what could have gone wrong?12:07
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Bassettshow can i open a second terminal window??12:07
agtWhat do I do if my xserver-xorg candidate shows 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 instead of what ubotu says?12:07
lamegoverus_, /topic12:07
chalcednyverus_, type /topic12:07
avuverus_: check out the topic :)12:07
verus_and of course how i could step back and redo the update of that package ...12:07
VictorI_in your opinion should I go with edgy or dapper?12:07
eternalswdgraveson, just make sure you get all of the codecs12:07
Warbograveson: Mencoder gives the most power. VLC can stream into a file, which might be good for those who do not have 5 years to search through mencoder's man page12:08
VictorI_how close is edgy to release?12:08
avuagt: it's xserver-xorg-core12:08
FlannelVictorI_: not very12:08
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verus_thanks12:08
eternalswdVictorI_, stick with dapper12:08
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VictorI_thanks12:08
agtavu: Ah, more sense now... ;)12:08
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JupiterDuoDCC SEND 00000000000000000000012:08
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gravesoneternalswd: it can play on my ubuntu box,i am copying it to dvd - playing it on my dvd recorder is where i am haiving issues12:09
MintyXPWarbo both 32 and 64 'see' the hda5 sawp, many many thanks12:09
newbuntiewhat happened with the xorg update?12:09
peanut7836when trying to install any package iget the following error: FATAL -> Failed to fork.12:09
Bassettswhat version should i see for the xserver fix?12:09
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eternalswdgraveson, mencoder will convert it to whatever format you want using whatever codecs you want12:09
newbuntienot sure if I can trust updates now...it was a major waste of time12:09
avubassetts: ..ubuntu10.412:09
WarboMintyXP: No problem (except you seem to have turned to the dark side...)12:09
lamego!! xorgfix12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
avubassetts: (ubuntu10.3 was the evil one :))12:10
chalcednyJupiterDuo why are you dcc sending that?12:10
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lamego!! xorgbuffix12:10
Bassettsavu: how do i open another terminal so i dont have to exit irssi?12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgbuffix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
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naliothchalcedny: they've already been k-lined12:10
lamego!! xorgbugfix12:10
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.12:10
MintyXPwarbo this my game computer12:10
avubassetts: you can open another tab with ctrl+shift+t12:10
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Bassettsavu: doesnt work12:10
chalcednynalioth, yup nice :)12:10
avubassetts: oh, you're not taling about gnome-terminal, sorry12:11
MintyXPlinux is great but not for real games12:11
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eternalswdgraveson, you should even be able to change directly to dvd format from mp412:11
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mike930is there a way to convert mpeg to mp4 and wmv to mp412:11
WarboMintyXP: I used to dual boot XP and Fedora 3. That was until XP got BSOD when trying to do anything 3D, so I decided to go into Linux at the deep end :)12:11
avubassetts: you can switch with ctrl+alt+f(1-6)12:11
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chalcednyMintyXP, tell that to my son...12:11
cicahi guys12:11
BAschehello there12:11
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eternalswdmike930, mencoder12:11
WarboMind you, my brother has so many consoles that I don't need Windows at all12:11
chalcednyJupiter Duo is back/12:11
cicanot a technical question all but does anyone know how Xubuntu is pronounced?12:12
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mike930thanks12:12
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Warbocica: I think "zooboontoo"12:12
crunchgod, the live cd is still loading up12:12
jvaix(Z)ubuntu12:12
MintyXPI really love linux or at leasdt since dapper has come out but for heavy games I still need my XP (which isnt to bad really)12:12
kalleiwhere is the gnome panel settings stored?12:12
MintyXPBUT i prefer linux12:12
BAscheafter disabling virtual resolution in xorg.conf kdm keeps that resolution. both xorg.conf and kdm.config are clean.12:12
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cicawhat about kubuntu?12:13
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Warbokallei: ~/.gnome2 somewhere (maybe try gconf-editor)12:13
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jvaik(ool)ubuntu.. lol12:13
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peanutbwhen trying to installany package i get this message: FATAL -> Failed to fork12:13
cicawould it be koo-bun-too?12:13
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Volvohi12:14
eternalswdkallei: i think it's in ~/.gnome2/apps/panel12:14
mooseman447hey12:14
Volvohow to configure my screen resolution, i think its locked12:14
mooseman447what happened to xserveer?12:14
Warbomooseman447: /topic12:14
MintyXPremind me please the commande line to gedit my grub file12:14
avumintyxp: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:14
FlannelMintyXP: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:14
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Volvoi cannot change my screen resolution, its locked at 640x480 60 hz12:15
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BAscheVolvo: login as root and edit you xorg.conf for example using pico12:15
Bassettsmy candidate version is right, just restart now?12:15
StephenLIs there not a gui interface to control your sreen resolution/monitors, etc?  I see the Screen Resulotion setting, but is there something more advanced for configuring dual monitors, etc?12:15
avubassetts: after upgrading, yes12:15
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Bassettsavu??12:15
Flannel!tell Volvo about fixres12:15
Bassettsavu: sudo apt-get update??12:15
avubassetts: (not the candidate but the installed version has to be right)12:15
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avubassetts: sudo apt-get upgrade12:15
Bassettsavu: ahh12:15
WarboStephenL: The screen resolution tool is really pathetic. The only way to get stuff done seems to be through the terminal :(12:15
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BAscheanybody into kdm?12:16
StephenLWarbo:  That's what I thought.  I was just hoping I was overlooking something.12:16
Andy_AlphaCan unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?12:16
Volvothanks basche12:16
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avubasche: #kubuntu might be of more help there12:16
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Bassettsavu: how can i restart from terminal?12:17
sk1dgecan any1 help me get my computer to make sounds? :)12:17
crunchOK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem12:17
kalleimy swiftfox wount open http addresses in emails etc, i have swiftfox %s in my preferred applications. How do i fix it?12:17
avubassetts: sudo reboot12:17
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Andy_Alphaskldge System>Preferences>Sound  ... check the bottom12:18
eternalswdkallei, does any browser open or does it do nothing?12:18
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kalleithe browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url12:18
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Bassettsavu, thanks12:19
avubassetts: you're most welcome12:19
Andy_AlphaCan unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?12:19
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kalleieternalswd: the browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url12:20
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crunchwhere do i find the graphical requirements for ubuntu 5.0512:20
sk1dgeandy_alpha: ive got two options there, "intel ich5" (onboard?) and "dell sound blaster live".. selecting either doesnt help.. i may have written unclearly,, no program of any kind is producing sound12:20
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crunch5.04*12:20
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: uuhh... a video output and a monitor12:20
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Kyral_Laptop(hell you don't need those....but I don't think you are running a server)12:21
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haasteem!java12:21
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:21
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: You are asking what kinda of Video card you need correct?12:21
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crunchyeah i have a pci graphics card and a 800 x 600 monitor12:21
crunchyes Kyral12:22
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: like I said, you need a video output and a monitor :P12:22
manopulushello, looking for jedit for ubunutu, it is not in apt-get list... is any repository available?12:22
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Shawn2is there a good howto out there for using and openmosix cluster with ubuntu machines?  i'm having trouble finding a decent on.12:22
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: any kind. If it works it will suffice12:22
secleinteerhey is the xorg update still bad? or can i upgrade?12:22
Bassettsanyone know if its possible to start xchat and gaim minimized12:22
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mooseman447warbo thanks that worked12:22
jvaii had hoary on a thinkpad 600x, i made sure to max out the ram, like 598, including the weak video card12:22
crunchwell then why is it saying x server / graphical interface is a no go12:22
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: dunno12:22
trevor64okay am back on the 64 version :)12:22
peanutbwhat does "FATAL -> Failed to fork" mean12:23
Andy_Alphaskldge hmm... don't know than. You should probably get familiar with ALSA12:23
englamanopulus: sounds likely, but you know there are many other alternatives I gues12:23
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Kyral_Laptoppeanutb: Well, I have NFI seeing as I don't know anything about the problem to begin with12:23
lgespeeI've got a question about Evolution in Ubuntu related the filters not working correctly12:23
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Kyral_Laptop(NFI == No F***ing Idea)12:23
crunchok i think i am going to go with windows 95/98 then12:23
sk1dgeandy_alpha: ive poked around in alsamixer, unmuted everything, as well as throughout the volume controls..12:23
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: um,mm let us help? :P12:24
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lgespeeit's somewhat related to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/4936412:24
lgespeeto which I already responded12:24
peanutbkyral_Laptop: when i apt-get install anything it gives that error and exits12:24
Andy_AlphaCan unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?12:24
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bruenigmanopulus, why not install it from the source package12:24
Bassettsgenerally where is the best place to install programs?12:24
Kyral_Laptoppeanutb: are you as root?12:24
englamanopulus: this site knows how to install jedit http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/12:24
Kyral_LaptopBassetts: use Synaptic or Apt-Get12:24
er4z0rhi fiolks12:24
Andy_Alphaskldge Sory I really don't know.12:24
crunchi wish you could help12:24
lamegoBassetts, synaptic12:24
sk1dgek12:24
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: you haven't let us lol12:24
peanutbKyral_Laptop: yes12:25
sk1dgety nway12:25
BassettsKyral_Laptop, lamego: if its from source?12:25
er4z0rI'd like to check out  vim 7.0. Anyone using it?12:25
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: maybe like the error msg?12:25
Kyral_LaptopBassetts: Apt (and Synaptic) doesn't touch /usr/local or /opt12:25
crunchKyral - scroll up12:25
Kyral_LaptopBassetts: run ./configure with --PREFIX=/usr/local (or /opt)12:25
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Bassettsok12:25
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: humor me12:25
crunch OK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem12:26
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Bassettsanyone know how i can get xchat and gaim to load on startup minimized??12:26
Kyral_Laptopokay now view the output :P12:26
crunchok12:26
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eternalswdkallei, are you using thunderbird?12:26
kalleiyes12:26
Kyral_LaptopBassetts: I don't know how12:26
eternalswdokay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=312:27
crunchok not much of what the output makes sense, but it says fatal server error no screen found12:27
bruenigBassets, minimizing gaim is not possible in the way you want to do it. As that is not an option for gaim on the command line. Not sure of xchat12:27
eternalswdkallei, okay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=312:27
Bassettsbruenig, thanks12:27
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: drop to the command prompt, login as root, and run xorgconfig12:27
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magus_xman12:28
magus_xi need help!!!!!!!!!!12:28
SirKillalothm my amarok wont put its icon to the tray anymore...12:28
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SirKillalotthis sucks12:28
dadadu59hi12:28
magus_xmy system is so slow, fors ome things12:28
Kyral_LaptopDinner TIME!12:28
jvaii got haory on this thinkpad t40, but i got 1g of ram here12:28
jvaifluxbox is broken in hoary.. :(12:28
magus_xlike, show up the Logout screen12:28
dadadu59nobody french here ?12:28
Kyral_Laptop!fr12:28
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:28
HaroldJohnsonrellim: Are you here, by any chance?12:28
magus_xopen system things12:28
magus_xlike network12:28
frank_bis there any way I can get my windows keys to function in linux?12:28
magus_xthose things, and i need them urgent12:28
AlexYes12:28
magus_xi got no idea12:28
MintyXPnite aall, many thanks to all for the help, :)12:28
Kyral_Laptopfrank_b: you mean the Windows Logo keys?12:28
dadadu59ok thanks ;)12:28
Alexfrank_b: google 'windows key gnome' - pretty much solves it12:28
frank_bKyral_Laptop, yes12:28
Kyral_Laptopfrank_b: those are "free" keys in Linux12:28
secleinteerdoes any1 know if the xorg update problem has been fixed?12:28
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davehi12:29
Kyral_Laptopfrank_b: feel free to bind them anyway you want12:29
frank_bAlex, thanks12:29
HaroldJohnsonAnyone able to install the new image (6.06.1) on an OldWorld Mac?12:29
magus_xanyone expert can help me?12:29
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bruenighas anyone tried the gaim nautilus integration plugin? Is it any good?12:29
crunchKyral: its asking me for a protocol number12:29
Kyral_Laptop(I use them as another Modifier Key)12:29
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Kyral_Laptopcrunch: read all the text12:29
Kyral_Laptopcrunch: I really have to eat dinner, sorry12:29
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Kyral_Laptop(Last dinner at home before going to college again)12:29
frank_bKyral_Laptop, ok. I'll follow Alex's advice an google it12:29
davecan anyone please help me? i updated X and it is now broken. thus i cant read the topic ;)12:29
Alexfrank_b: I did it the other day :)12:29
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bruenig!xorgbugfix > dave12:30
Alexfrank_b: It's something to do with defining windows keys as 'super', or something12:30
jlduggerdave: try /topic12:30
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frank_bAlex, :) ok, thanks12:30
crunchok man12:30
magus_xi got an error like12:30
crunchyou'll be back after?12:30
davejldugger: thx :))12:30
B_Hhi12:30
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magus_xserver curps cannot get started, something like that12:30
jlduggerbasically, apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade again12:30
bruenigdoes the xorg update mess all machines up or just some12:30
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quintinI cannot seem to get wireless working, have a PRISM2 card, and it shows up on system tray at top12:31
youngcoderhow do i access the bios before grub loads?12:31
jlduggerbruenig: apparently all machines that arent owned by ubuntu developers ;)12:31
brueniglol12:31
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pushpop11Is there an ubuntu gaming channel?12:31
bruenigI guess I will just leave it alone for awhile and then update when I know all is clear12:31
KenSentMeyoungcoder: that depends on your hardware, usually by pressing del or f2, but check the manual of your motherboard12:31
hawkaloogieyoungcoder, that has everything to do with your bios and nothing to do with grub. try making sure you're monitor is on before you power up12:31
quintinHow do I create /dev/wlan0 ?  it doesn't seem to exist12:31
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frank_bthank you Alex and Kyral_Laptop . bye.12:32
jlduggerdonk3y, you'd probably be lucky to find a linux gaming channel :(12:32
quintinOk, I can see networks in the ESSID dropdown list12:32
scarfboywhat is the significance of stub packages in edgy, like python-mysqldb-1.2.1-p2?12:32
sophtpawnekostar, sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core didn't work, Said it couldn't find package12:32
quintinbut I can't get on them12:32
davethx alot guys12:32
donk3yjldugger: ya haha was just curious12:32
jlduggerdonk3y, there is 312:33
scarfboyI'd rather like to use that version of the package, but it only contains some docs right now.12:33
jlduggerdonk3y, there is #icculus.org12:33
sophtpawsudo apt-get update didn't work12:33
donk3yjldugger: ahh cool thanks12:34
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kalleieternalswd: did not work12:34
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_tccDoes Dapper use Madwifi-ng or the older madwifi?12:34
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sophtpawI stil don't have X12:35
_tccWireless is a real piece of cr@p.12:35
gbaumanHey guys - I am noticing a lot of packages that are NOT obsolete appearing in Synaptic as obsolete. They are packages from main, and I have all repositories enabled12:35
sophtpawusing kanotix live cd12:35
gbaumanwhy would that be happening?12:35
sophtpawfreaked out and removed X and xorg.conf12:35
eternalswdkallei, did you make sure to change /usr/bin/firefox to the path for swiftfox?12:35
kalleieternalswd: yes12:35
sophtpawtried sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core but that didn't work12:35
sophtpawanyone know if that command is right?12:36
eternalswdkallei, did you restart thunderbird?12:36
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sophtpawnalioth, can you help me?12:36
kalleieternalswd: yes12:36
lamego!! xorgbugfix > sophtpaw12:37
bigmarCus_Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp312:37
cwellshow can i get ubuntu to boot to a different runlevel?  i've got something that's hanging the system at the default runlevel (I'm guessing X related) so I'd like to drop into a system maintenance mode12:37
naliothsophtpaw: with what?12:37
cwellsfrom grub that is12:37
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kalleieternalswd: swiftfox still opens, but the default homepage12:37
lixHi. I've got roubles using my "Omnikey Cardman 4040" pcmcia Card. I think the problem ist somewhere in pcsclite or udev. Can somebody help?12:37
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BDerwenthello, for some reason when I installed the latest upgrade I no longer can start the XServer or something, and the screen that tells me this is garbled12:38
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bigmarCus_what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp312:39
sophtpawnalioth: my X is broken. i was badly advised due to not knowing that ubuntu had problems globally with x, and removed X and xorg.conf12:39
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eternalswdkallei, was thunderbird closed when you editted the .js file?12:40
mihBDerwent:  If X is broken after a recent update please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/5715312:40
sophtpawnalioth: i asked whether the command nekostar gave me: apt-get install x-window-server-core is right. coz it didn't work12:40
sophtpawlamego; sudo apt-get update didn't work12:40
wolfmanzWhy is it i have to redo the the mount on my ntfs driver every time i boot?12:40
goatmalecan some one help I put in a new hard  drive and ubuntu isn't noticing it.12:40
kalleieternalswd:  aah now it works, thanks!12:41
holy_cowwolfmanz, is it an entry in your fstab?12:41
eternalswdkallei, no problem12:41
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wolfmanzholy_cow:  no i dont think so12:41
mb_HELP12:41
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mb_i grabbed the x update this morning and it blew out video on a thinkpad t4012:41
mb_any help on this would be SOOOOOO appreciated12:42
holy_cowgoatmale, even from the system -> administration -> disk utility?12:42
Warbomb_: Look at the channel topic...12:42
sophtpawwhat the hell did ubuntu do with X?12:42
hawkaloogiemb_, update your repositories and try again.12:42
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msoulmb_: wget ://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb12:42
holy_cowwolfmanz, try that then. /etc/fstab is where its at12:42
mb_hawkaloogie: i hate to sound dumb, but how does one do this?12:42
goatmalelet me try mr cow12:42
naliothsophtpaw: did you get a private message from ubotu ?12:42
holy_cowand then it should mount at boot12:42
mb_ah12:43
BDerwentalright, thanks guys12:43
hawkaloogiemb_, sudo apt-get update12:43
holy_cowdang, i'm watching silent hill12:43
goatmalegood movie mr cow.12:43
nalioth!tell sophtpaw about xorgbugfix12:43
naliothgoatmale: holy_cow: #ubuntu-offtopic for movie reviews, please12:43
goatmalehey mr cow.  It shows up on the disk utilities12:44
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sophtpawnalioth, yea got that but i was in ubuntu 10 mins ago and didn't let me update, something aoubt temporary something with archives12:44
WarboI've been asking for help with XTeddy for ages. It doesn't work for me in E16 or Fluxbox, in Xorg or AIGLX, from binary or source. Can somebody please tell me if it works or doesn't for them??!12:44
holy_cowCheck out the device name it says and mount that12:44
sophtpawnalioth: besides i don't have X at all, Removed X and xorg.conf files12:44
holy_cowSorry nalioth12:44
goatmaledo I have to do that every time?12:44
holy_cownope12:45
holy_cowJust add it to your /etc/fstab12:45
sophtpawnalioth: like i said nekostar gave me a command which didn't work. Said packages couldn't be found12:45
naliothsophtpaw: all you need is a console.  have you 'sudo apt-get update' lately?12:45
holy_cowif its NTFS makesure you make one of the options "ro"12:45
sophtpawnalioth: the command was: install x-window-server-core12:45
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goatmaleit's blank12:45
naliothsophtpaw: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please12:45
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sophtpawnalioth: like i said about 10 mins ago12:45
rmdi want to disable gdm at boottime, but not erase it from my system.  how can i do that?12:45
WarboNTFS implies ro anyway doesn't it?12:45
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holy_cowother than that, if its formatted in ext3 you can almost copy the line that mounts your root share12:45
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WD_RaptorDIsco STu needs a staffer ooo12:46
Warbormd: Look at "man update-rc.d" and use it to stop GDM launching in runlevel 212:46
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WD_RaptorAnyone here a staffer12:46
magus_xi need help, but i got strange problems12:46
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rmdWarbo: thanks12:46
magus_xsystem things like network, printers12:46
magus_xare taking years to start12:46
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magus_xand printer dont start, cups problem12:47
WD_RaptorNeed stafer please12:47
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julien_cX crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?12:47
magus_xreally strange12:47
WD_RaptorStaffer, please PM me!12:47
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goatmalehey mr cow I did  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       012:48
goatmaleit's a blank 80 gb western digital12:48
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LostFrogWhoever wrote the Ubuntu installer, I thank you one million times.12:48
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ugarithow does one change the default os to boot into?  I'm using grub.12:49
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LostFrogugarit: /boot/grub/menu.lst?12:49
julien_cX crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?12:49
englajulien_c: yes, many sadly12:49
LostFrogjulien_c: /topic12:49
englajulien_c: if you can, just update to even newer version12:50
julien_coh12:50
scarfboyhuh... debian has MySQLdb-1.2.1_p2 in unstable. But edgy seems to have a sub package. Not sure about the differences involved there - can anyone enlighten me whether I can expect 1.2.1_p2 in edgy?12:50
julien_csorry lol I did not read the topic12:50
julien_cthanks12:50
ZambeziHow can I formate hdb1? "sudo mkfs -t ext3 -m 0 -r 0", but how should I format hdb1?12:50
mcphailWhich mirrors have the newer xorg package? How long does it take to roll out to all mirrors?12:50
ugaritLostFrog:  Are the os's listed in the order which they would appear in the grub boot up sequence?12:50
LostFrog'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1'12:51
scarfboyor another mkfs as you wish12:51
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LostFrogugarit: no.. there is a default tag.. and it's numbered from 0.12:51
goatmalewhere is fstab?12:51
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Kyral_Laptopin /etc/12:51
goatmalethanks12:51
Kyral_Laptop(/etc in general is the location of system wide configuration files)12:52
goatmaleleet, thanks12:52
scarfboyis ubuntu aware of dependencies in packages installed with dpkg -i?12:52
Kyral_Laptop...please don't use that term12:52
mcphailscarfboy: yes12:52
Kyral_Laptopscarfboy: you have to manually resolve deps when installing with dpkg12:52
scarfboyAs in, will it update it with newer versions from that actual tree12:52
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scarfboyI know that12:52
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LostFrogscarfboy: yes.. all packages are installed using dpkg.12:53
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scarfboyI just want to tell the sysadmin here something simple12:53
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magus_xhey, i got some strange problems, i need someone experient to help me12:53
scarfboypreferably not involving compiling things from source or that this will break the next update12:53
LostFrogscarfboy: to upgrade a package, you need to use dpkg -U12:53
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scarfboythat's lovely, but not the point.12:53
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rummikmagus_x: maybe you should ask the question, instead of asking for experienced help12:54
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magus_xits an strange problem12:54
scarfboyI assume apt has a list of things it has installed, to update. If I dpkg -i something into ubuntu from debian, will it get updated?12:54
magus_xwell12:54
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LostFrogyes..12:54
scarfboyAlright, thanks:)12:54
lamegoscarfboy, if the dependencies are ok, yet it will12:55
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magus_xmy system programs like: network, printers and services ( i dont know if other system tools are ) , are acting really strange12:55
LostFrogIf there is a update available via apt, of course.12:55
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magus_xthey are taking 3 minuts to open, and printers "cuds" is problematic because it dont opens anymore12:55
scarfboysounds semsible. But what does that depend on? Package name, or some specific metadata?12:55
LostFrogscarfboy: apt using dpkg to install packages.12:55
magus_xall this happened after an energy fault12:55
magus_xany idea? :(12:55
wolfmanzDoes dapper drake come with alsa or is that a seperate thing that has to be installed?12:55
scarfboyI know the package name is the same, so that would be neat12:56
LostFrogs/using/uses12:56
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mb_thanks for the fix, guys.12:56
mb_worked like a champ.12:56
Mr_Awesomehi, today i booted linux and got the error "no screens found" from X; yesterday it was working but i also installed a recent update to the x server (or something similar).  does anyone know what could be wrong?12:56
goatmalewolf try alsamixer12:56
mb_now fire the guy whgo messed that up!!! :P12:56
goatmalemr awesome read the topic12:57
Mr_Awesomeaha, thanks12:57
goatmaleno problem.12:57
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Mr_Awesomeheh, i never read those darned topics12:57
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scarfboyBut the whole point is I want it to not disturb automatic upgrades at all.12:57
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Kyral_Laptopmcphail: look at the top of the screen12:58
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Kyral_Laptopmcphail: see the bar at the top? :P12:58
scarfboynot stay behind as if it were 'make install'ed around a package manager, and be upgraded as it if were the python-mysqldb package in ubuntu12:58
rummikMr_Awesome: i had that problem last night :P12:58
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scarfboy(which is outdated right now)12:58
mcphailKyral_Laptop: yes, i know. but most topics are > 80 chars12:58
wolfmanzgoatmale: i get the mixer but i dont see a option to sellect Alsa in the teamspeak settings only OSS12:58
Kyral_Laptopmcphail: I ignore the topic generally12:58
goatmalehuh12:58
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bkudriai am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?12:58
Mr_Awesomeis there anyway to view a web page from the command line?12:58
lamego?? xorgbufix12:58
LostFrogmcphail: /topic #ubuntu12:58
lamego?? xorgbugfix12:59
Mr_Awesomeor irc, or msn/aim12:59
LostFrogMr_Awesome: lynx or links12:59
lamego!! xorgbugfix12:59
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.12:59
Kyral_LaptopMr_Awesome: install Lynx or Links12:59
mcphailKyral_Laptop: the /topic used to be updated here quite often and was worth checking, but it has been a bit stagnant lately12:59
Mr_Awesomeok, cause i could really use that at times12:59
ThaurMr_Awesome, centericq for MSN & aim12:59
scarfboyso, LostFrog, I guess my quiestion is whether it will act as the package tree or not?12:59
Mr_Awesomeoh ok, thanks12:59
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Kyral_LaptopMr_Awesome: I tend to keep CLI versions of everything in case of emergency12:59
Mr_AwesomeKyral_Laptop: yeah thats a good idea12:59
LostFrogscarfboy: it will act no differently than if it was installed using apt.12:59
ThaurKyral_Laptop, same :P12:59
mcphaillamego: I apt-get updated 10 minutes ago and it was still broken from the dutch repos01:00
Kyral_Laptopthough <3 Vim :P01:00
Kyral_Laptop*DUCK!*01:00
ThaurMr_Awesome, you shoulden't ever rely on GUI01:00
sharperguyKyral_Laptop, i better "sudo apt-get install irssi" then!01:00
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rummikMr_Awesome: you can downgrade with apt-get01:00
Mr_AwesomeThaur: im a windows guy at heart though ;)01:00
mb_btw, as words of strength and encouragement, ubuntu is hands down, the best distro i've used in 8 years.01:00
LostFrogespecially Motherboard manufacturers.01:00
mb_nice work, guys.01:00
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ThaurMr_Awesome, Ouch. I'd used windows for a long time before linux, but I Was a linux guy at heart01:00
_tccWhere is the .config for the default kernel?01:00
sharperguyoh lol i already have it01:00
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lamegomcphail, mine is ok, tks :)01:00
Kyral_LaptopLostFrog: Actually I was reading the new CSS specs, you can use MEDIA to specify a StyleSheet for Terminals now01:00
scarfboyIt would never be installed via apt, it's not strictly a ubuntu package, it's a debian package. Hence my question about whether there is a possible difference.01:01
LostFrog_tcc: /boot/config-dsakfjhasdfkjhdsfa01:01
Mr_AwesomeThaur: im hoping ill get converted eventually01:01
Kyral_Laptop_tcc: try zcat /proc/config.gz01:01
Kyral_Laptop(If it exists)01:01
rummikMr_Awesome: 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper'01:01
Kyral_LaptopI dunno if Ubuntu has that option enabled01:01
ZambeziLostFrog, scarfboy: I managed to format it, but the problem now is I can't mount it.01:01
ThaurMr_Awesome, Good man :P. If it dosen't feel right right now, it tends to grow on you01:01
marshall_does anybudy here have windows live mail?01:01
_tccconfig-2.6.15-26-38601:01
_tccI think01:01
_tcc /boot/config-2.6.15-26-38601:01
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goatmalewhere are hard drives usally mounted in ubuntu01:01
LostFrogZambezi: mount /dev/hdb1 <mountpoint>01:02
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: depends on what type01:02
rmdWarbo: how do i know what item it is in the init script so i can stop it?01:02
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: IDE drives are usually /dev/hd{a,b,c}01:02
Mr_Awesomerummik: thanks ill give that a shot01:02
marshall_is anybody having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?01:02
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goatmaleyeah i have one in /dev/hdb01:02
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: SATA and SCSI are /dev/sd{a,b,c}01:02
goatmalebut how do I mount it?01:02
LostFrogKyral_Laptop: those are the devices, not mount points.01:02
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Kyral_LaptopLostFrog: I know01:02
rummikMr_Awesome: that's what i was told to do last night, it worked perfectly01:02
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Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: aren't you already running the system?01:03
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: or did you add a new HD?01:03
goatmale?01:03
goatmaleI just added a new one01:03
goatmaletrying to set it up01:03
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Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: well to find out about current mounted systems, just run "mount"01:03
Kyral_Laptop!fstab01:03
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions01:03
ZambeziLostFrog, Thanks. It worked now.01:03
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survivorhey.01:04
LostFrogZambezi: read the above for automount at bootup.01:04
marshall_whats the best linux video editor01:04
survivori want to repartition my hard drive and have found gparted.01:04
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: basically you gotta make a directory where you want it to appear in the filesystem, put the info in /etc/fstab, and mount it01:04
survivorcan i run this from inside an ubuntu live session?01:04
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: in a word, its your choice :P01:04
jordanaumarshall_, check virtualdub01:04
Kyral_Laptopsurvivor: yes01:04
survivorsounds great :)01:04
survivor*looks for livecd*01:04
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ZambeziLostFrog, But now it's another problem. ;-/ I need to change the rights cause the application I try to use, can't save to the harddrive.01:04
marshall_is anybody else having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?01:04
goatmalekyral can I pm you my fstab info?01:05
Kyral_LaptopWindows Live Mail....is that a joke?01:05
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: read the stuff in !fstab01:05
bkudriai am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?01:05
Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: its kinda self-explainitory01:05
Kyral_LaptopYea for commented out config files!01:05
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nekostarzhey01:05
nekostarzy cant i open .deb files with fileroller anymroe01:05
nekostarzmore**01:05
Kyral_Laptop..why would you01:05
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aLPHa_LeaK n801:06
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nekostarzKyral_Laptop, b/c i wanna?01:06
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Kyral_Laptopnekostarz: good reason!01:06
nekostarzor mebbie i wanna extract a file or two from it o.O01:06
Kyral_Laptopand I dunno :P01:06
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nekostarzos[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 84.7% free]  disk[Total : 368.66GB, 41.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ] 01:08
nekostarzah ha01:08
jvailol... that's what linux is for.. the curoius01:08
jvaisumtymes01:08
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nekostarzinstalled xchat-xsys01:08
lmosherhey all. i'm getting this error: /dev/dsp: Input/output error why trying to play enemy-territory. Any ideas? (I also don't get any sound) :)01:08
nekostarzand copied the .so over so i can load manually [from ~/.xchat2/01:08
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nekostarzb/c i dont wanna run the 2.6.x xchat i like the 2.4.x01:08
blendhi every1 , where can i get some really basic newbie help for mounting an ntfs partition... ive tried many guides over the net without succeeding01:08
mcphailIs there a way to downgrade a package via apt/aptituse/synaptic which doesn't rely on you knowing the prvious version number?01:09
blendany help would be appreciate it thanks01:09
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mcphail*aptitude01:09
WafflerHello.  I'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.01:09
nekostarzmcphail, try the same method as the xorg thing01:10
nekostarz!xorgbugfix01:10
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.01:10
nekostarzjust do the apt-cache policy for that package01:10
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nekostarzor if its a single package browse with firefox or equivelant through the repos to the package u want01:10
nekostarz:)01:10
nekostarzdl and install01:10
nekostarzetc01:10
mcphailnekostarz: the apt-cache policy thing doesn't tell you the _previous_ version number01:11
blendnekostarz, hi can u pls tell me where can i get newbie support for basic stuff like mounting ntfs partitions and general guidelines?01:11
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nekostarz!ntfs01:11
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:11
nekostarzmcphail, then download it manually01:12
blendgr8 thanks01:12
nekostarzwhat package btw?01:12
nekostarznp blend01:12
nekostarzbtw blend be careful with fuse // write support to ntfs01:12
nekostarzits still a bit buggy01:12
nekostarz~_^01:12
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blendok mate thanks again :)01:12
xxpor2Pizza, what do u mean by buggy :P01:12
Pizzanp01:12
Pizzaxxpor, meaning u lose data a percentage of the time01:13
mcphailnekostarz: nothing in particular. But i have now had to downgrade 2 packages this week due to borked ubuntu repos. I'm getting bored trawling repos. A simple "apt-get downgrade" would be nice01:13
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Pizzapersonally my windows  partition is fat32 because there is good suport for that.01:13
Pizzamcphail, agreed01:13
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bkudriascanModem says my winmodem is supported, but I can't get it to work...can anyone help?01:13
Pizzaalso a way to show all avaliable package versions for a package01:13
mcphailPizza: yes01:14
goatmalewhy doesn't su work for me?01:14
WafflerI'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.  Can somebody please point me in the right direction?01:14
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Kyral_Laptopgoatmale: read !root01:14
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blendguys is there a specific channel for newbies? or its the same on this 1?01:14
goatmalewaffler try ndisgtk01:14
Kyral_Laptopblend: its this one01:14
goatmaleit's a nice program and it makes things really easy01:15
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goatmale!root01:15
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:15
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blendcool, at least a good start lol01:15
Kyral_LaptopHeheh newbies, I remember having to compile NDiswrapper from source on Slackware 10.101:15
nekostarzbtw to be root for a bit01:15
nekostarzsudo su -01:15
nekostarz:)01:15
Wafflerwhere can I find more information about ndisgtk?01:15
Kyral_Laptop(no offense to the word newbie)01:15
nekostarzlol Kyral_Laptop01:15
nekostarzi remember when i installed debian the first time01:15
blendnone taken whatso ever im just gladd im off anything called winzows :D01:15
nekostarzi hated it ~_~01:15
Kyral_LaptopSlackware mmmm01:16
Kyral_Laptopprolly why I run Arch now01:16
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holy_cowYeah. I'm pleasantly suprised at the functionality I'm getting going cold turkey from windows01:16
wooflungpooWhen i uninstalled ubuntu from my laptop that was dualbooting winxp. now when i turn on my laptop it just goes to grub loading stage1.5 . then says Grub loading, please wait error 22 any ideas?01:16
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ccookenekostarz: You can reduce that to 'sudo -s', by the way01:16
nekostarzccooke, o?01:16
nekostarzhuh01:17
mcphailwooflungpoo: you deleted the information grub needs to boot when you deleted the ubuntu partition01:17
avunekostarz: or sudo -i :)01:17
nekostarzwhats the diff01:17
nekostarzlol01:17
nekostarzi knwo i knwo... man sudo01:17
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goatmalegoatmale@goatmale-desktop:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/hd/01:17
goatmalemount: you must specify the filesystem type01:17
goatmalewhat did I do wrong?01:17
ccookenekostarz: sudo -i is, in effect, exactly the same as 'sudo su -'. sudo -s is very similar to "su" :-)01:17
wooflungpoosoo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?01:18
avugoatmale: /dev/hdb is the whole disk01:18
ZambeziWhich is the best and most secure way to change the rights on a folder on my hdb-harddrive?01:18
holy_cowgoatmale, -t ext301:18
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holy_cowgoatmale, if its ext301:18
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avugoatmale: what you want to do is mount a partition on that disk, I guess01:18
goatmalei don't know what it is.01:18
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nekostarz-i  The -i (simulate initial login) /// -s  The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL01:18
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nekostarzinteresting01:19
nekostarz;)01:19
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goatmaleit's blank I just put it in01:19
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goatmaledo I want to partition it?01:19
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z3r0xdoes anybody know a tool to cut tracks?01:19
nekostarzgoatmale,01:19
nekostarzwhat are u mounting01:19
MrGideonAnyone been having random issues with dvd's?01:19
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nekostarzsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd/01:19
goatmalea new hard drive01:19
nekostarzetc01:19
nekostarzoh01:19
nekostarzbefore you mount it01:19
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ccookeZambezi: most secure? Take an axe to it... (query: do you mean 'an application for changing rights' or 'the best rights to have' ?01:19
metromhey, how do I easily install Azureuz 2.5.0.0?01:19
nekostarzsudo cfdisk /dev/hdb01:19
nekostarz:)01:19
wooflungpoosoo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?01:20
goatmalewhat do I do from there neko?01:20
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avumetrom: download it from azureus.sf.net, tar xjf it, cd azureus, ./azureus01:20
Satyaso whats the solution to the X bug? my thinkpad wont start x!01:20
nekostarzgoatmale,01:20
docgnomethere is a program that will make it so programs like apache and firestarter and so forth won't start when the machine powers up... anyone know the name of it? it works by removing all the /etc/rc*.d files if i recall...01:20
nekostarzdecide how many and what size partitions01:20
nekostarzwhat type etc01:20
nekostarzOR01:20
metromshould I move the file somewhere after?01:20
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goatmalecan I just write it all to something easy01:21
nekostarzclose that without doing anything01:21
nekostarzsudo apt-get install gparted01:21
nekostarzand run that as root and format graphically01:21
nekostarzwhich you might like a little better01:21
McJerryanyone using aircrack that can help me?01:21
avumetrom: there's no real need to do so, no01:21
metromok, thanks01:21
nekostarznp01:22
Zambeziccooke, Just change the rights so I can copy files to the folder without using root, but not give access so a hacker can harm my system.01:22
nekostarzholler if u need mroe help01:22
wooflungpoohey mcphail how could i fix that error 22 issue?01:22
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nekostarzand on the azureus thing metrom01:22
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nekostarzi know its not officially supported BUT01:22
nekostarzautomatix >>> install azureus01:22
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nekostarzthen sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus01:22
nekostarzand you can update just fine01:23
nekostarz:)01:23
cwellsi've got a mac mini with ubuntu that i've messed up the init scripts on and it hangs at boot.  how can I a) mount the disk from a rescue cd b) boot into a different runlevel?01:23
Kyral_LaptopAutomatix != good01:23
avunekostarz: you should never tell people to chmod -R 777 anything01:23
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nekostarzKyral_Laptop, extreme dependance on automatix != good01:23
metromso, automatix have the new azureus01:23
nekostarza few packages on automatix == great01:23
VitaminGavu: sometimes, that's the only way it will run01:23
Kyral_Laptopthen show them how to install them the right way01:23
nekostarzi install opera // swiftfox and azureus with it Kyral_Laptop01:24
nekostarzand thats about it01:24
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nekostarzeh01:24
Kyral_LaptopWe no help by doing it for them01:24
nekostarzthey serve a purpose01:24
nekostarzy not just send em to #gentoo then01:24
nekostarz:P01:24
avuvitaming: maybe there are a few very very special cases where 77 really are the appropiate rights01:24
Flannelnekostarz: Automatix's only purpose is to screw up systems01:24
Kyral_LaptopGive a man a fish, feed him for a day01:24
VitaminGavu: and those situations are my point.01:24
Kyral_Laptopteach a man to fish, feed him for life01:24
avuvitaming: but this is *very* rare and surely not the case in the given situation01:24
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nekostarzteach him to fish and he'll be asking for bait his entire life01:24
nekostarzand borrowing your rod01:24
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nekostarzand stealing your beer01:25
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crimsunregardless whether you like automatix or not, please don't spread fud about it.01:25
nekostarzO:01:25
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Flannelcrimsun: It's hardly FUD, it's factual.01:25
nekostarzFlannel,01:25
nekostarzactually01:25
blendfrom what i got reading the help file, u basically need to convert mp3 files using audacity01:25
wooflungpoodoes anyone know how to fix the issue i formatted the ubutnu partition now it hangs at startup with an error22 please help01:25
nekostarzits quite usefull for a few things01:25
VitaminGflannel: and so is Microsoft?01:25
nekostarzand its not screwed my system at all01:25
RogerRabbhow can I check harddrive activity? Is there a monitor?01:25
blendwhat do u guys do when u have like 4 gigs of music :S01:25
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nekostarzof course mebbie yer just unlucky01:26
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Kyral_Laptopblend: listen to it01:26
nekostarzblend, i use dvd's01:26
nekostarz:D01:26
crimsunagain, that's fud. End of discussion.01:26
nekostarzdl / backup01:26
nekostarzcrimsun, or someone01:26
Flannelnekostarz: right, there *are* people out there who have no problems, but there are far too many who do, and when automatix screws up, it's a reinstall.01:26
nekostarzwtf is fud01:26
blendlol01:26
Kyral_LaptopThis is why I use Arch.....01:26
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nekostarzFlannel, not nessisaraly01:26
VitaminGblend: thats nothing, one of my friends has 36 gigs of music, and he's still growing the collection01:26
nekostarzand reinstalling isnt hard01:26
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nekostarzthats why we all have swap / and /home on different partitions isnt it01:26
nekostarzo:01:26
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wizardanyone know why i freeze on log out?01:26
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Flannelnekostarz: yes, necessarily.  We see them here all the time, which is why we do not endorse automatix.01:27
drshasta19hello all !!!01:27
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blendVitaminG does he go and convert each file to listne to it :S01:27
nekostarzanyway01:27
drshasta19I need a lot fo help01:27
aarondoes anyone know of an app that functions as a homework organizer?01:27
docgnomeThere is a program that will make it so that daemons won't launch when i start my computer... anyone know what it's called?01:27
nekostarzyour safe installing those 3 packages from automatix01:27
drshasta19when i start ubuntu, after the line EVMS01:27
nekostarz~_~01:27
VitaminGnekostar: fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It's a common MS tactic, or at least was.01:27
tuxtuxnotte a tutti01:27
lamegonekostarz, no, we have /home in differente partitions for system upgrades, not to restore from automatix01:27
aaronos x has schoolhouse, and there are tons of options for windows.01:27
drshasta19a long list comes up saying [XXXXXXXXXXXXX.XXXX]  Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block01:27
aaronbut synaptic shows nothing for ubuntu.01:27
TiG4*** Once I have installed SAMBA in Synaptic, how do I start it up? ***01:27
drshasta19any ideas?01:27
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RogerRabbVitaminG if you store music in lossless for backup purposes then well.. hundreds and hundreds of gigs01:27
skel_homecan anyone tell me how to find recently installed updates and how to back it out? I applied a suggested ubuntu update for Xorg and now my X is broken =/01:27
VitaminGblend: no, why would he?01:27
crimsunwe should not be endorsing anything not DIRECTLY in the Canonical repos.01:27
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nekostarzlamego, i have /home on different partition so i can run multiple linuxes with same settings01:27
nekostarzO:O:01:27
nekostarzanyway01:27
muaddibI have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules are load01:27
muaddibmuch01:27
nekostarzim not disagreeing and i know there are problems now and then01:28
muaddibany ideas would be appreciated01:28
nekostarzso meh01:28
blendvitaminG from what i got checking the help files in order to listen to mp3 files on ubuntu u need to convert it to a special format01:28
blendno?01:28
LuccidHow do you pronouce ubunutu ?01:28
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Kyral_Laptop!mp301:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:28
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nekostarzKyral_Laptop, u beat me ~_~01:28
VitaminGmy wireless mouse just died!01:28
Kyral_LaptopVitaminG: replace the batteries01:28
jvaioo-bun'-too01:28
Kyral_Laptop:P01:28
bimberi!pronounce01:29
ubotuUbuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq01:29
mitchdrshasta19, R U using LVM?01:29
saikoVitaminG: you don't need mouse in console01:29
blendhehehe thanks guys off for some more reading ... its gonna be a long night lol01:29
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RogerRabbnot at all blend.. those links ^ explain the situation and what to install to listen to it.. once you've done that.. try out amarok :D my favourite music player01:29
VitaminGkyral_laptopthat's what I'm doing.01:29
Luccidthanks01:29
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drshasta19mitch yes01:29
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blendrogerrabb ok cool i was worried for a moment there lol01:29
drshasta19it is automotik in ubuntu01:29
nekostarzooo yes01:29
nekostarzactually Kyral_Laptop here's a good one for u01:29
|rt|hmm how do I look at those links concerning a broken X when X isn't working01:29
VitaminGit lives!01:29
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proselytegnome keeps freezing up in ubunt01:29
nekostarzhow can i have my consoles have higher resolution like teh gentoo ???01:30
mcphail|rt|: use elinks01:30
nekostarzi would like svga at least ^^;;01:30
Luccidso is it bun or BOON ?01:30
mitchdrshasta19, did you previously define an lvm pv or vg and then reinstall?01:30
blendanyway im off for some reading , thanks for the support every101:30
|rt|mcphail: k i'll give that a shot thanks01:30
muaddibany thought01:30
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VitaminGblend: if you install all the gstreamer codecs, and libxine-extracodecs, all media files will play fine.01:30
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Luccidwent to link thanks01:30
muaddibsorry I meant thoughts01:30
rexxkwandomy X on my desktop has ceased viability01:30
bimberiLuccid: BOON01:30
drshasta19mitch i dont know what you are talking about sorry01:30
blendvitaming ok will do that thanks again01:30
aaronnobody knows of a homework organization app for ubuntu/linux?01:30
nekostarzmuaddib,01:30
drshasta19the error started to appear after i installed fuse01:30
blendciao01:30
eternalswdanyone know how to make tiltwheel buttons only send a single signal rather than repeated signals?01:30
proselytecould adding xfce and kde to my ubuntu cause gnome to freeze up repeatedly, if not, what would?01:31
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nekostarzanyone helped u yet ?01:31
mcphail|rt|: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 will get you out of trouble01:31
drshasta19i rebooted and the error came up...01:31
VitaminGluccid: ooboontoo is how you pronounce it01:31
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zarstari'm new with the ubuntu01:31
muaddibnekostarz: was that last post for me01:31
mitchdrshasta19, were you using lvm and then reinstalled your OS?01:31
nekostarzmuaddib I have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules a01:31
nekostarzre loa  <<---01:31
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zarstarwhat's that story of the root?01:31
|rt|mcphail: thanks01:31
proselyteme?01:31
proselyteno01:31
zarstar (and sudo?)01:31
nekostarzmmm01:31
SonicChaoHow do I get the "Wine" menu to appear in Gnome?01:31
nekostarzlets take a look01:31
nekostarzsata directly to the mobo muaddib ?01:31
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bimberiubotu tell zarstar about root01:32
muaddibnekostarz: no I was still waiting for someone's opnion01:32
drshasta19mitch, yes but all i did was reactivate grub since windows erased it01:32
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drshasta19and it worked01:32
drshasta19mitch, it did work, until i installed fuse and rebooted...01:32
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drshasta19mitch, i never used the write property of fuse i jsut installed it and rebooted01:33
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nekostarz!grub01:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:33
galagoWhen attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?01:33
mitchdrshasta19, not familiar with fuse.. what is it?01:33
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nekostarzmuaddib, are you planning on using raid ?01:33
drshasta19mitch, the system halted for a long time, i pressed the power button and restarted and that is when the touble came01:33
drshasta19mitch, fuse allows you to read write ntfs files01:33
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muaddibnekostarz: No01:33
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mitchdrshasta19, does your system work well otherwise?01:34
drshasta19mitch, yes01:34
drshasta19mitch, perfectly01:34
RogerRabbchecking hard drive activity - eg what's reading and writing to it.. can you do that in linux?01:34
|rt|mcphail: that did the trick...X is working now01:34
nekostarzthen are you planning on installing a butload of hdd's muaddib ?01:34
mitchdrshasta19, the easy fix is to disable evms (if you are not using it).01:35
mcphail|rt|: excellent. I believe a fixed package is on its way to the repos01:35
rexxkwandomy X on my desktop has ceased viability, what can I do to get X fixed?01:35
profoX`mitch: (i thought fuse was filesystem in usermode, you can add filesystems without having to recompile the kernel that way)01:35
drshasta19mitch, how do i do that and is it okay not to use evms?01:35
|rt|mcphail: so is the update manager going to want to reinstall the version that doesn't work?01:35
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mcphail|rt|: i'd avoid updating for a few hours to be on the safe side01:36
muaddibnekostarz: eventually yes right now I only have 2 installed01:36
mcphail*upgrading01:36
|rt|mcphail: sounds good thanks01:36
profoX`|rt|: it should already be fixed that problem. Did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? if you see that ubuntu10.4 gets installed, you are okay, if it is 10.3 then you have to downgrade again with the command that mcphail gave you01:36
shawarmaRogerRabb: Yes. Put a '1' into /proc/sys/vm/block_dump01:37
rexxkwandoso if I just wait it out and update/upgrade, X will fix?01:37
profoX`rexxkwando: yes01:37
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FREThey all01:37
nekostarzmmm01:37
profoX`rexxkwando: should already be fixed in most/all repositories01:37
rexxkwandookay01:38
mcphailprofoX`: still the borked one on my repo01:38
profoX`mcphail: did you apt-get update?01:38
mitchdrshasta19, any /dev/evms/ paths in /etc/fstab?01:38
RogerRabbthen what shawarma?01:38
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profoX`mcphail: what repo are you using? (what mirror)01:38
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rexxkwandowow, linux is the atom-bomb01:38
shawarmaRogerRabb: ...then it shows up in dmesg01:38
RogerRabbawesome thanks01:38
mcphailprofoX`: i tell a lie - just updated again and the new one is there01:38
FRETI'm new to ubuntu and I had some problems with an xserver-update. Is this a known bug?01:39
Ghost_Printerare repos down again ?01:39
docgnomehow do i stop a daemon from launching at start up?01:39
profoX`mcphail: liar !01:39
jordanaufret yes it is01:39
profoX`;)01:39
mcphailprofoX`: pants on fire01:39
shawarmadocgnome: Remove the symlink from /etc/rc2.d01:39
jordanauFRET, did you get it back and working01:39
muaddibbrb01:39
profoX`mcphail: lol..01:39
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FRETjordanau, alright....thx. I just didn't know what was happening, when x didn't want to start anymore.01:39
nekostarzmmmm01:39
drshasta19mitch, no01:39
shawarmadocgnome: Look for something along the lines of "services" in the administratoin menu in gnome.01:39
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profoX`FRET: it should already be fixed that problem. Did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? if you see that ubuntu10.4 gets installed, you are okay01:39
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nekostarzeh01:40
nekostarzwell fuck01:40
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nekostarz*oops01:40
FRETjordanau, yes. I finally thought about looking for updates and it was fixed01:40
jordanauFRET, look in the topic and you will se a link to the problem\01:40
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FRETjordanau, thx01:40
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FRETprofoX`, I did not do the dist-upgrade01:40
y0ss1_77i need a little help getting a printer to work01:41
profoX`FRET: normal upgrade is good too01:41
ToranHey, does anyone know of a Nintendo Entertainment System Emulator that will support my generic USB gamepad?01:41
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y0ss1_77where do i find he ppd file01:41
FRETprofoX`, ok. Did that and everything is working now. But I guess such things don't happen to often? ;-)01:41
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profoX`Toran: dont know about NES, for SNES I used Zsnes / snes9x01:41
Thlaylianyone else having troubles with xorg since the update?01:41
ToranI use zsnes, and it works fine with my pad01:41
profoX`FRET: this is the first time that a problem this big has happened that I know of.01:41
Thlaylii'm using the proprietary nvidia driver and can't start xorg anymore now01:41
mitchdrshasta19, the errors won't hurt anything, but you can remove evms from the boot runlevel and you wont see them anymore...01:42
drshasta19ok01:42
profoX`FRET: I proposed a new "acceptance" repository, so we will never have problems like this again, i hope the idea gets accepted, technical board meeting is next tuesday01:42
AgrajagThlayli: check the topic01:42
KnomeToran: perhaps fceu01:42
Thlaylii get errors in GLXcore.so and the message "No Devices detected"01:42
drshasta19mitch, how do i remove it then?01:42
ToranTried it, it doesn't seem to work01:42
y0ss1_77does anyone know a page to help me get my printer working?01:42
Thlayliagrajag: could you copy paste it for me? can't read it fully on my current screen :(01:42
AgrajagToran: there is a program called joy2key that should help you01:42
mitchdrshasta19, I had the same problem, and never could find a good solution. I finally deactivated/removed LVM volumes and started over.01:43
FRETprofoX`, I see.01:43
ToranThanks Agrajag01:43
AgrajagThlayli: just type /topic01:43
Thlaylithx01:43
drshasta19mitch, could you give me more details please on the procedure i must follow? thank you01:43
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crimsunprofoX`: hardly. Fedora Core 5 released with a kernel that refused to load (by default) proprietary modules.01:43
=== FRET was a fedora user before
AgrajagThlayli: basically, you should just try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"01:43
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profoX`crimsun: ._.01:44
AgrajagThlayli: that should install the newest update that fixes the problem the last update produced01:44
y0ss1_77printers please?01:44
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dravasUhh some things on Linux have like Choppy movement like Screensavers etc what can I do about that I have a nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU01:44
mitchdrshasta19, update-rc.d -f evms remove01:44
profoX`anyway, this is my idea about improving the quality of the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcceptanceRepositoryProposal FRET01:44
mitchdrshasta19, ^^ at your own risk!01:44
drshasta19mitch thanks a lot01:44
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profoX`dravas: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?01:44
drshasta19yeah01:44
drshasta19thanks01:44
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dravasno01:44
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matt____has anyone installed steam on dapper01:45
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crimsunprofoX`: I'd like to draw your attention to the existing -proposed, repository.01:45
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y0ss1_77does anyone know how to get hp printer to work on linux?01:45
crimsuns/\,//01:45
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profoX`crimsun: if you read my proposal, then you'd know that I know about it.01:45
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Nameeatery0ss1_77: what model01:45
FRETprofoX`, thx... I'll have a look01:45
profoX`crimsun: proposed is more for big updates like openoffice.org01:45
mcphailprofoX`: was the borked xorg patch a security patch?01:46
y0ss1_77hp 1012 laserjet01:46
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dravas!nvidia01:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:46
profoX`mcphail: I don't know, I was told it was an upstream bug in X.org itself01:46
crimsunprofoX`: there's no point in duplicating what -proposed does.01:46
blend!mp301:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:46
FantasticFooya know how the faulty version of x.org was released as an official .deb in the ubuntu repositories? well, after i downgraded, i can manually start X with "startx", but gdm refuses to start, with error after error01:46
FantasticFoo:(01:46
profoX`crimsun: please read01:46
FantasticFoocan anyone please help?01:46
profoX`crimsun: i'm not "duplicating"01:46
crimsunprofoX`: I have.01:46
naliothFantasticFoo: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"01:47
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FantasticFoonalioth: thankyou!!!!!!!!01:47
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blendguys what should i install exactly in order to listen to mp3s???01:47
LostFrogEthernet device naming is set in /etc/iftab!!!01:47
profoX`crimsun: small fixes get releases in the repositories immediately, that should get catched by the acceptance repository before getting released (to follow the DTAP rules)01:47
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nalioth!tell blend about mp301:47
LostFrogblend: mpg123?01:47
imperfect-Anyone at all know what I can do to get X working on a ACD connected monitor?01:47
blendkindda getting lost here01:47
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mcphailFantasticFoo: don't restart X with startx01:47
naliothblend: look at your private messages01:47
Nameeatery0ss1_77: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-133142.html01:48
Thlayli/exit01:48
FantasticFoomcphail: what is the proper way?01:48
blendk thanks01:48
y0ss1_77ty01:48
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crimsunprofoX`: that's what we're discussing for -proposed01:48
mcphailFantasticFoo: first, run "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"01:48
crimsunprofoX`: as in _right now_ in -devel01:48
blendthks nalioth01:48
FantasticFoomcphail: i tried that01:48
blendwill check it out now01:48
profoX`crimsun: oh ._.01:48
FantasticFoomcphail: but it gives an error01:48
naliothFantasticFoo: try the --reinstall thing01:48
profoX`crimsun: I can join ? ;P01:49
FantasticFoomcphail: oh well, guess i'll just use reboot01:49
gnat_xi volunteer at a public access computer center, and someon managed to break gnome prertty badly (using dapper), there's no menues, and right clicking does squat, and there's no background. i can however get into failsafe mode. any ideas?01:49
FantasticFoonalioth: k, i will right this second01:49
mcphailFantasticFoo: startx seems to spawn rogue gdm processes which mess things up. Make sure all have been killed01:49
metromhmm.. anyone know how to install Java JRE [1.5.0_07] ?01:49
wasabiapt-get install sun-java5-jre01:49
metromthanks01:50
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HaroldJohnsonAnyone know how to install OS X Tiger on Ubuntu?01:50
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nalioth!tell metrom about java01:50
HaroldJohnson!Tiger01:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Tiger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
naliothHaroldJohnson: what do you mean?01:50
NameeaterHaroldJohnson: pearpc?01:50
survivorTiger on Ubuntu? err?01:50
HaroldJohnsonnalioth:Hello001:50
survivorWhat do you want? ^^01:50
Noah0504Okay, I'm sure this question has been asked a million times today, but has the broken xserver update been pulled?01:50
HaroldJohnsonNameeater:Hello01:50
eyequeueNoah0504, no01:50
FlannelNoah0504: a newer (fixed) version is out01:50
mcphailNoah0504: yes01:50
eyequeueNoah0504, superceded01:50
naliothHaroldJohnson: join #ubuntu-classroom please01:51
NameeaterHaroldJohnson, http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ might run it, but good luck!01:51
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gnat_xboken xserver? what's the symptoms.01:51
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eyequeuegnat_x, /topic01:51
HaroldJohnsonNameeater:Thanks01:51
mcphailgnat_x: broken X!01:51
avisNoah0504, i'm sure by now its migrated to most mirrors -- the newer fixed replacement.  keyword: most  i found that if you take out any country code in your sources.list that you get the correct one.01:51
wasabiPearPC will probably not run it in any worthwhile way.01:51
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wasabiYou are better off with VMware.01:52
eauxnguyenidentify01:52
eauxnguyenGnome9101:52
Noah0504Okay, thanks guys.  I downloaded that upgrade last night and woke up to a nice surprise this morning when I tried to turn on my computer, haha.  I just figured it was something I did, so I backed up a little bit using a LiveCD and reinstalled.  I laughed when I saw the notice on the forums.01:52
survivorwell first you should say if you want to run it on x86 or ppc01:52
survivoror whatever you mean by running one os on another :)01:52
eyequeueNoah0504, 10.4 is the fix01:52
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imperfect-I can't even run X -configure on this powerpc box01:53
Noah0504eyequeue: Okay, thanks.01:53
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mcphailDid the 10.3 version break _everyone's_ X? If so, how on earth did it get released?01:54
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nalioth!tell imperfect- about xcfg01:54
SonicChaomcphail: Not everyone's. Mine runs fine.01:54
eyequeuemcphail, no, mine was fine01:54
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eauxnguyenah that is what I was checking on.  killed mine01:54
Noah0504mcphail: That's what I would like to know.01:54
mcphailSonicChao: eyequeue: what hardware are you running?01:54
eauxnguyen!tell eauxnguyen - about xcfg01:55
eyequeuemcphail, laptop here01:55
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SonicChaoIt's a Linux distribution, they don't test this for ages before they release it.01:55
y0ss1_77Nameeater: when i do hp-toolbox it says no bash: command not found01:55
imperfect-nalioth : X -configure should probe not lock up my box.01:55
SonicChaoJust chill. There is a fix.01:55
y0ss1_77how do i get the hp toolbox if it is not there01:55
Phenaxy0ss1_77: Get bash.01:55
SonicChaomcphail: HP dv1411se01:55
mcphailSonicChao: it is the stable branch of the distribution. This sort of thing shouldn't happen01:55
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naliothimperfect-: i've not heard of that command.  did you read your PM from ubotu ?01:55
Phenaxy0ss1_77: Or make sure it's in your $PATH variable01:55
y0ss1_77huh and huh01:56
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imperfect-nalioth : might i suggest reading man X ?01:56
Phenaxy0ss1_77: BASH is the Bourne Again Shell01:56
y0ss1_77brand newbian01:56
y0ss1_77yes01:56
Phenaxy0ss1_77: And the $PATH variable contains paths so you don't need to type in the paths to execute, well..01:56
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SonicChaomcphail: It shouldn't happen, but everyone makes mistakes. There is also no warranty, and weeks/months of testing doesn't happen.01:57
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Nameeatery0ss1_77: do you have a terminal open?01:57
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Phenaxif /lol was in $PATH, and a.oout was in /lol, then you could run a.oout by just typing a.oout :)01:57
y0ss1_77Phenax, yup01:57
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mcphailSonicChao: i have never installed a piece of software which has a warranty :)01:57
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y0ss1_77Nameeater, yes01:58
mcphailSonicChao: ubuntu is getting a reputation for these mistakes01:58
chantronwhat mistakes?01:58
ranunculoidmcphail: ubuntu has a warrenty ;)01:58
eyequeuechantron, /topic01:58
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Noah0504This is the only one I've ever whitnessed.01:58
Nameeatery0ss1_77: does slocate hp-toolbox show /usr/bin/hp-toolbox ?01:58
mcphailchantron: broken X, passwords logged in plain text, etc01:58
SonicChaomcphail: Well, there are problems, but everyone needs to take a chill pill.01:58
chantronmy bad. im a compelte noob to IRC01:58
y0ss1_77Nameeater, let me check01:58
eauxnguyenit's debian after all. can't get much more reliable packages01:59
y0ss1_77Nameeater, no01:59
Nameeaterwhat ubuntu are you using?01:59
dravasto install nVidia linux drivers I need to install the restricted modules and I allready have some installed when I checked does that mean that I am find to install them?01:59
y0ss1_77dapper01:59
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Nameeaterwierd, I have it01:59
eyequeueubuntu is getting a reputation for being made by HUMANs?  makes sense ;)01:59
y0ss1_77hmm02:00
delirefunnily enough, such things as a broken X after upgrade are almost common with Debian testing/unstable and other branches of popular distros ;)02:00
eauxnguyenheh02:00
SonicChaoeyequeue: XD02:00
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SonicChaoeyequeue: Made for humans, by humans.02:00
eyequeueand that human theme02:00
delirebut yes, Ubuntu will have lost many clients/users as a result of this. many simply won't know what to do, or even how to search for help online about a fix.02:00
danmorgany idea why my machine running ubuntu 6.06 randomly shuts down?   its a eMachines...02:00
mcphaildelire: absolutely02:01
y0ss1_77Nameeater, is there a hp toolbox pkg i can get?02:01
Phenaxdanmorg: Maybe check your system logging utilities for.. logs?02:01
Nameeatery0ss1_77: just having a look, one mo02:01
Phenax Most likely you might find something in /var/log/02:01
deliremcphail: so it goes. Windows has hardly a better track record. Service Packs have cut out hundreds of thousands of users at a time.02:01
gimmulfNow im tired of irssi, any gui irc client to recommend?02:01
eyequeuedelire, if a user leaves over a broken package, i wonder what the user would turn to instead02:01
torpedo|doggimmulf: x-chat02:01
eyequeuegimmulf, xchat is common02:02
AdamKriergimmulf: xchat-gnome02:02
gimmulfoki02:02
gimmulftnx02:02
Phenaxgimmulf: I've used irssi for a few years. It's expansible, themable and overall great.02:02
danmorgPhenax: ok.  is there something i can do to prevent it?02:02
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Noah0504xchat-gnome is a joke...02:02
FRETwhat's the command to get the ubuntu version one is using?02:02
hybridPhenax: +202:02
Phenaxdanmorg: After you find your problem there may be02:02
delireeyequeue: most people don't really like computers, and think of them as appliances. they will just move to what next works.02:02
SonicChaoNoah0504: Thank you for saying that!02:02
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DarkMageZunfortunantly it's not possible to cut the humans out of the equation, tho, we could have a <version>-testing branch which would get the patches first, and then they could cry about stuff being broken before it reaches the normal <version> users :)02:02
SonicChaoNoah0504: That was on the tip of my tounge....02:02
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Noah0504SonicChao: haha, It's so true...02:02
Rosbiefhi everybody02:02
SonicChaoNoah0504: xchat-gnome is garbage.02:02
mcphaileyequeue: a broken GUI is a big deal. They could get a more comfortable user experince on Win9502:02
gimmulfPhenax:  used it for a year or so, only thing i think is great is that you can pick up a session thru screen when ssh02:02
eyequeuedelire, exactly.  what do you think has zero breakages?02:02
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SonicChaoNoah0504: It goes along with gnome program-strip policies02:03
delireeyequeue: a piece of unbroken wood.02:03
eyequeuemcphail, as i said earlier, a broken gui is nothing major, imo02:03
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Nameeatery0ss1_77, you need the package hplip02:03
Phenaxgimmulf: Well, I'm the type of person that must have ALL IMPORTANT UTILITIES not depending on X, or a FB, etc.02:03
Rosbiefi just installed ubunto like a hour ago but now my question is why can i enter my other partions and why cant i change the name of the hd where ubunto is installed?02:03
gimmulfahh ok Phenax  :)02:03
Noah0504SonicChao: That would be fine, but they've really stripped it down.02:03
mcphaileyequeue: for you and me, maybe not. But the CLI is not why people are using ubuntu02:03
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PhenaxAnd in-fact most of them are much better than their gtk/qt counterparts :)02:03
void^broken gui is a final showstopper for any ordinary "humans"02:03
y0ss1_77Nameeater, so apt-get hplip?02:03
Nameeatersudo apt-get install hplip :)02:03
delirevoid^, mcphail: this is true02:03
eyequeuemcphail, i think guis are a waste, personally02:03
SonicChaoNoah0504: It's XChat -options, -interface, -tabs-by-default, -everything else.02:04
eyequeuemcphail, not to mention confusing, though i've manged to learn this one a bit02:04
PhenaxPersonally I think GUI's are great for particular things while CLI is great for particular things.02:04
Noah0504SonicChao: haha, Yeah, that about covers everything.02:04
Rosbiefanyone a idea?02:04
mcphaileyequeue: GNOME is running a fullscreen terminal and irssi quite nicely here :)02:04
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PhenaxAnd I think the best combination is CLI with a optional GUI interface02:04
eyequeuePhenax, good for bloat, good for efficiency ;)02:05
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Nameeatery0ss1_77, you may also need to apt-get the python-qt3 package as it complains about not having it when I try to run hp-toolbox02:05
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MalachiHow many people have come asking about the xserver break?02:05
eyequeuemcphail, irssi always runs under screen for me :)  but i'm in xchat now, as i said i've manged to figure this gui out a bit, heh02:05
mcphailMalachi: several thousand02:05
satanto hell with you all02:05
bkudriai'm trying to get my winmodem working with sldaemond....but the  init script doesn't start slmodemd, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?02:06
satanWHO NEEDS A BLOODY ROPE!?02:06
SonicChaoNoah0504: It's like running a "xchat -oite" if those are even options...02:06
mcphaileyequeue: yes, screen here as well02:06
SonicChaoNoah0504: It's really crazy.02:06
MalachiThought so. May I asked what happened? It freaked the living heck out of me.02:06
SonicChaosatan: Please stop.02:06
satanOHH IS THAT RIGHT RAMBO?02:06
RosbiefCan Somone please answer me? its like i can't go trought my other partiotion drives02:06
eyequeueMalachi, /topic02:06
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Phenaxsatan: Who's a little 12-year old who wants attention?02:06
chantronguys no offense but it sounds to me like your gui vs. cli discussion is in the wrong place. isn't ubuntu a distro meant for more or less, the common user?02:06
satanme!02:06
Malachieyequeue: Hmm?02:06
chantronim not saying "keep on topic" or wahtever, just pointing it out02:06
SonicChaoPhenax: Watch it. >>02:06
mcphailchantron: i think a debate about a broken GUI is rather topical today02:07
dravasUhh what does this mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2144302:07
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chantrontrue, but youre debating whether or not a GUI is useful in a distro geared towards average users02:07
RosbiefAnyone?02:07
zarstarhol02:07
eyequeuechantron, perhaps you have not been in here for the past 18 hours02:07
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mcphailchantron: we're debating whether an update process which breaks X is a significant systems failure02:08
michael__Tech support anyone?02:08
eyequeuechantron, it proved how useless a gui can be02:08
RosbiefYeah need support to but noone is answering02:08
bkudriai'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?02:08
SonicChaomichael__: ?02:08
FlannelRosbief: you need to mount the other drives to be able to read them02:08
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michael__I need support too ... X won't start.02:08
chantroni see what youre saying now02:08
azathothdowngrade xorg02:08
FlannelGuys, take the GUI vs CLI (vs whatever) to #ubuntu-offtopic please02:08
eyequeuemichael__, /topic02:08
RosbiefFlannel: doesnt mount02:08
chantroni jsut steppted into this randomly02:08
SonicChaoOk, listen.02:08
mcphaileyequeue: if a similar poorly tested patch is applied to BASH, we will all be in trouble02:08
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SonicChaoFirst of all, we are losing new users.02:09
zarstarwhat's C.L.I?02:09
Knomedravas: just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and comment out the dri module then change driver nv to nvidia.02:09
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eyequeuemcphail, as happened to debian a while back, yeah, agreed02:09
azathothCLI = command line interface02:09
chantroncommand line interface02:09
zarstarconsole .... interface?02:09
SonicChaoYou well-tuned Linux users have no problem adapting.02:09
Jamminpotatoi have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition02:09
zarstar:)02:09
SonicChaoWhen a noob is approached with $, what's the first thing they do?02:09
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azathothspend it?02:09
eyequeueSonicChao, spend it02:09
SonicChaoSimple: they come here02:09
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mainerapt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges:))02:09
galagoWhen attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?02:09
SonicChaoeyequeue: Very funny.02:09
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w30I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course02:10
galagoI'm able to see files in the share and navigate through the folders, but I can't create files or folders nor can I copy data02:10
mcphailFlannel: this is not a GUI vs CLI debate02:10
RosbiefFlannel: It won't mounnt! and i don't know why02:10
michael__mainer, was that to me?02:10
galagowhen running in the console I get ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Not a directory" while doing a file operation.02:10
Noah0504What02:10
Jamminpotatoi have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition02:10
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mainermichael__: to anyone02:10
SonicChaoI meant you@box:~$02:10
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Flannelmcphail: right, but whatever it is, it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not directly support related02:10
_azrael__Question: When I check my env, there is a variable called PANTS. Does anyone know what this is for/what it does?02:10
lophyteanyone know where I can download additional gnome panel applets?02:10
Jamminpotato<eyequeue> SonicChao, spend it02:10
Jamminpotato<SonicChao> Simple: they come here02:10
Jamminpotatooops02:10
Noah0504Opps... What's that best option for MSN and webcams.  I've tried aMSN, but it the webcam is really choppy... like a frame a minute, haha.02:10
Jamminpotatoi have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition02:10
mcphailFlannel: have you been on the channel today?? X has broken for many users. That is both on topic and topical.02:11
michael__mainer, but was it regarding the X-won't-start bug issue?02:11
rmdJamminpotato: don't waste your time with a shared partition02:11
eyequeueand even on /topic, heh02:11
Jamminpotatormd, why?02:11
PhenaxJamminpotato: As much as you want it to be? 2gb minimum I'd say02:11
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rmdbecause you can download a tiny program that will let you access your linux partition, and ubuntu comes with built-in read access on NTFS02:11
JamminpotatoPhenax, dang ok im so used to needing 8 gigs to be safe with xp, wow, wow, linux rocks02:12
eyequeueJamminpotato, don't use ntfs for the shared partition btw02:12
Jamminpotatormd, but ubuntu cant right to ntfs can it02:12
mainermichael__: yes,it's not 100% foolproof,but lists open bugs,done=fixed bugs,listchanges does what it says,you can install via synaptic,downgrade the xorg for a fix02:12
PhenaxJamminpotato: With other distros I've been able to stick it on less than 100mb, not with much software of course02:12
PhenaxFAT32 can be read and written by Windows and Linux02:12
Jamminpotatoeyequeue, i was planning on vfat or fat32?02:12
SonicChaoJamminpotato: No, it can't.02:12
eyequeueJamminpotato, they supposedly are okay, yes02:13
rmdJamminpotato: no, it can't.  but if you're just sharing media, it doesn't matter.02:13
w30I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course02:13
michael__mainer: How do I use synaptic if I can't get into X?02:13
PhenaxJamminpotato: There are EXT2/3 drivers for Windows, and full r/w NTFS drivers for Linux02:13
Jamminpotatowhat would be your recommended fs for a shared partition02:13
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mcphailw30: yes, it has been fixed now02:13
Jamminpotatoor should i forgoe it completely02:13
eyequeuemichael__, read the url at the /topic, apt-get works fine02:13
rmdJamminpotato: fat32 for your shared partition, if you insist on complicating it in that way02:13
michael__eyequeue: Thanks02:13
acidiancan I get a tip for a good irc app for ubuntu?02:13
jordan_after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?02:13
Jamminpotatoacidian, xchat02:13
PhenaxJamminpotato: So, FAT32, EXT2, or NTFS would probably be your best bet02:13
jordan_acidian, irssi and xchat02:13
eyequeueacidian, irssi and xchat are popular02:13
acidianIm testing xchat right now, but I dont like it that much02:14
acidianhmm02:14
rmdacidian: irssi, bitchx02:14
michael__I use Gaim for everything, including IRC02:14
acidianI was looking at gaim02:14
eyequeueacidian, irssi happens to be my favorite, but may not be yours02:14
michael__I know a lot of people who prefer xchat though02:14
Jamminpotatoi dont like gaim for irc02:14
michael__I'll be glad when Gaim gives a final release of 2.0.002:14
Jamminpotatohow good and fast are the windows tools for righting to ext3? and similarly how good are the linux tools for r/w ing on to ntfs?02:14
acidianI dont like not having list of people in the channel02:14
acidiananyway to fix that?02:14
eyequeueacidian, faim works, but is not featureful for irc, it seems rather clumsy02:14
jordan_when i am connected to a vpn i lose my xchat connection, is there a reason for that?02:15
eyequeueacidian, gaim02:15
bkudriarmd: which "tiny program" allows one to access ext3 in windows?02:15
rmdJamminpotato: windows writing to ext is no problem at all.  but linux writing to NTFS has been known to cause physical errors on the disk02:15
acidianI remember bitchx of old, wasnt realy that good02:15
imperfect-Man02:15
mainermichael__: live-cd probly would be easiest02:15
imperfect-that is some WEIRD stuff02:15
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dravasKnome I dont have nv in my xorg.conf02:15
acidianthis is my first time installing and using linux myself though02:15
PhenaxJamminpotato: They're not full r/w speed, or fully stable.. but they work. The ext2 drivers for Windows I heard weren't bad, same goes for NTFS for Linux02:15
jane_d_mookI need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..02:15
imperfect-the only way I can get myu LCD to work02:15
rmdbkudria: i don't remember off the top of my head.  google ext3 xp or something.02:15
Jamminpotatormd, so i should make the extra space ext3?02:15
imperfect-is 8bpp02:15
bkudriarmd: ok, thanks...02:15
bkudriai'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?02:15
PhenaxJamminpotato: Although NTFS r/w for Linux is quite new.. but not that unstable/slow02:16
Jamminpotatohmm...im thinking a shard vfat or fat 32 will be easiest for me02:16
eyequeueacidian, though i also dislike bx, if you dislike it, you may not like irssi02:16
PhenaxJamminpotato: Likely02:16
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rmdJamminpotato: i would make it fat32 would be better for you because windows wont need any additional sofware and linux wont have any issues, either02:16
acidianeyequeue,  Ill give it a try02:16
mainermichathen chroot to the hdd,partiton with ubuntu run apt-get or aptitude remove xorg,then re-install the old02:16
FTMichaelSomeone remind me how to list the channels on a given server?  I tried /list and got nothing02:16
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eyequeueFTMichael, which client?02:16
jordan_after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?02:16
PhenaxFTMichael: The server may not support or, your client may not support it, or it may be going to a different window02:17
FTMichaelirssi02:17
Jamminpotatowhat is the max partition size for a fat32 partition?02:17
FTMichaelI'm in irssi currently.02:17
Knomedravas: ok...what is there?02:17
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PhenaxFTMichael: Try going to the server's window/02:17
eyequeueFTMichael, /list should work then, on this network02:17
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Knomedravas: under Section Device, Driver02:17
mcphailFTMichael: freenode somtimes refuse to /list if the servers are busy02:17
PhenaxPlus you have to do /list -YES02:17
dravas Identifier "Generic Video Card "Driver "vesa"BusID "PCI:0:5:0"02:17
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acidianok, so Ive been trying to play back a video file, and in windows I always install codecs to get videos working, and Im guessing its the same here with linux02:18
w30list will give an error of server is too busy to do that sometimes02:18
Knomedravas: what kind of nvidia card do you have?02:18
acidianso ayone know a good codec package?02:18
StargazersIs there any programs like DigiKam, F-Spot or like that BUT which has IPTC-support? I mean, XnView has it but it is totally too ugly to use :(02:18
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cello_rasphas anyone compared blackdown java to the official sun ubuntu java package yet?02:18
StargazersI would be very thankfully if you can help02:18
Phenaxdravas: Change the "Driver" line to "nv" instead of "vesa"02:18
Flannelcello_rasp: blackdown doesn't work with some java programs02:18
jordan_!codec02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:18
StargazersI personally love DigiKam, but there is no IPTC support02:18
cello_raspim convinced the official sun package is bloated and slow in comparison02:19
eyequeue!mp3 > jordan_02:19
dravasok Phenax02:19
jordan_acidian, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs02:19
w30acidian, in synaptic search type codecs02:19
FlannelJamminpotato:  a few TB.02:19
Rondom!Restricted Formats02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Restricted Formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
eyequeuejordan_, i think that's the factoid you wanted02:19
Phenaxdravas: Of course, that's for the open source nvidia drivers with no 3d support.02:19
JamminpotatoFlannel, but isnt there a 4gig max single file thing?02:19
Phenaxdravas: If your looking for 3d support, get the official nvidia drivers and then change the line to "nvidia" instead of "nv"02:19
dravasknome I have a nVidia Geforce 6100 intergrated02:19
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Jamminpotato4gig max file size would be a pain in the arsinic02:19
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dravasok Phenax02:19
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jordan_eyequeue, yes thanks02:19
FlannelJamminpotato: right02:20
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saikohow do i blank an cd-rw ?02:20
saikousing cdrdao & cdrecord gives me an error Error trying to open /dev/cdrw exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.02:20
PhenaxJamminpotato: I suggest you make it EXT2 or NTFS depending on if your going to use Linux or Windows more02:20
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verbosei tried using fglrx drivers and they messed up my system, so i removed all the installed fglrx packages and restored my original(working) xorg.conf02:20
superjew9020im a newb and this is probably an easy question but wat is a hoary CD??02:20
ubuntui just did a update and now i cant get back in to ubuntu????02:20
Jamminpotatoif only ntfs were more open and easier to write to02:20
verbosebut when i startx i get EE no devices detected02:20
verboseany suggestions?02:20
Jamminpotatoor if only microsoft embraced thigns like ext3 more02:20
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JamminpotatoWHY?02:20
eyequeuesuperjew9020, the precious version of ubuntu02:20
Jamminpotatowhy mr.gates why02:20
Flannelubuntu: read the topic02:20
superjew9020oooo02:20
acidianjordan_, thanks :)02:20
Noah0504exit02:20
superjew9020thanks02:21
Noah0504Opps02:21
jordan_acidian, any time02:21
Jamminpotatowhats the difference between ext2 and ext302:21
eyequeuesuperjew9020, no wait, one beofre that02:21
PhenaxJamminpotato: I'd say just drop Windows.. I've done it a few years ago without regret.. meh02:21
jordan_anyone know how to view the files on a file server?02:21
ubuntuno screans02:21
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PhenaxJamminpotato: Journaling, b-tree hashing (Optional), not much really02:21
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eyequeuesuperjew9020, hoary then breezy now dapper (and then edgy)02:21
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PhenaxJamminpotato: You can mount EXT3 as EXT2 and convert EXT2 to EXT302:21
eyequeueubuntu, /topic02:21
JamminpotatoPhenax, ido lan parties and gaming somewhat regularly so the windows box makes things easier02:21
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ikarugai followed the instructions to set up php, but it does not work02:21
ikarugahelp....02:21
Jamminpotatowill ext2 or ext 3 be easier to deal with from windows02:22
SonicChaoJamminpotato: I thought I'd need Windows for a long time, I dropped it and never came back and it made my Linux experience much more enjoyable.02:22
SonicChao!php02:22
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP02:22
PhenaxJamminpotato: Oh, there's a lot of nice games for Linux -- Quake 1-4, Doom 1-3, all UT, and a bunch of others for commercial games.. but I don't suppose you play em :)02:22
w30how do I tell what ubuntu version I have installed?02:22
eyequeue!version02:22
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.02:22
JamminpotatoPhenax, i play ut2k4 but my main game is CS:S02:22
PhenaxJamminpotato: Not to mention hundreds of free/open source games.. I'm a regular gamers and always on UNIX02:22
JosephI have a hard drive set up with 3 partitions that I know of: Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux and a FAT32 Files partition which holds all my files so i can access them from both operating systems. I recently reinstalled Windows XP and now do not get the option to choose which operating system to boot when I start up. What do I do?02:22
Jamminpotatoor else i would drop windows02:22
PhenaxJamminpotato: Well, if that's your only game with a dependancy in Windows, it runs quite well in WINE02:22
SonicChaow30: System --> About Ubuntu02:22
ikarugaubotu: those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
w30ubotu, thanks :=)02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks :=) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
Knomedravas: well you could try the nvidia driver by changing 'vesa' to 'nvidia' but I have no idea if it'll work or not you might want to copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to your home directory so you can overwrite the file with the old copy if it doesn't work *don't forget to restart X after altering the file*02:22
Ross_SonicChaap, I personally recommend Xampp02:22
Warbo!grub > Joseph02:23
ubuntuwtf is goning on wit dis02:23
PhenaxJamminpotato: I've fully ran Steam and all related games with Windows-like performance many times.02:23
SonicChaoubuntu: what?02:23
cello_raspRoss_ xampp is badly organised. but initially acessible.02:23
JamminpotatoPhenax, plus i need that sercurity blanket of winXP, it jsut makes me feel like as crappy as it is at least i know what to do wit h that pile of crap02:23
profoX`Ross_: xampp doesnt automatically get updates from apt-get so i would say normal lamp installation would be better02:23
saikopeople, how do you blank your cd-rw's ?02:23
ikarugaw30: uh, I think ubotu is a bot02:23
Flannelubuntu: there was a bad package, the new one should be updated and in the repositories, read the topic, go to that link, for more information02:23
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jordan_does anyone here find that beagle isn't really all it is cracked up to be?02:23
Ross_mmm02:23
Warbosaiko: I use GnomeBaker02:23
PhenaxJamminpotato: There are options you can enable a much more secure 'security blanket' in UNIX :)02:24
Ross_i'm new....xampp worked out of the box very easily02:24
Jamminpotatojordan_, refresh me what is breagle again?02:24
mcphailjordan_: yes, it is a resource hog02:24
JamminpotatoPhenax, haha nice, but you know what i mean02:24
rkdJamminpotato: a desktop search mechanism02:24
Stargazers->02:24
cello_raspRoss_ once you get into mysql you'll want to install the LAMP from Ubuntu02:24
w30ikaruga, duh....02:24
PhenaxJamminpotato: well, if you decide to switch over feel free to ask me for support - I've been operating UNIX systems for years now and know most of my things.02:24
ubuntui have 6.06 or what ever and i cant log in it says cant find screans02:24
Warbojordan_: I couldn't get it to return results from my Home dir :(02:24
saikoWarbo: i see it's not in ubuntu by default02:24
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xnull192any ideea how can I stop sending emails from my box to user@domain.com ? I got sendmail02:24
Warbo!info gnomebaker02:24
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB02:24
mcphailjordan_: i have found all mono apps perform badly02:24
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cello_raspwhat's a really lightweight browser?02:25
saikoWarbo: thx, on it02:25
JosephThank you Warbo02:25
profoX`ubuntu: log into the terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update02:25
profoX`ubuntu: it should fix it02:25
JosephThanks a lot02:25
SonicChaocello_rasp: Dillo.02:25
Flannelcello_rasp: Dillo02:25
eyequeuecello_rasp, cli?  gui?02:25
HeathenDandillo is lightweight02:25
Phenaxcello_rasp: lynx, links, dillo02:25
dravasPhenax how do I restart xserv?02:25
WarboI have installed tracker, but it's deskbar integration is pretty pointless for me02:25
SonicChaocello_rasp: sudo apt-get install dillo elinks02:25
ToHellWithGAif anybody here knows something about plumbing i'd love some help in #plumbing02:25
cello_raspDillo looks like rubbish and doesn't work at all well.02:25
ubuntui am on live cd right now02:25
profoX`dillo is gtk1 ? :x02:25
JamminpotatoPhenax, thanks, people like you are one of the reasons i really like linux and moreso ubuntu, cause a lot of other distros dont have such helpful support02:25
Warbosince deskbar forces a white background for my theme's white fonts :(02:25
jane_d_mookI need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..02:25
mcphailcello_rasp: that's why you need a heavyweight browser02:25
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cello_raspdillo was hilariously broken on 5.10 in fact02:25
PhenaxJamminpotato: I've only used Ubuntu for 15-minutes and then I totally dropped it.. Lol02:25
SonicChaocello_rasp: It's the best light-weight browser. I personally use Firefox.02:26
eyequeueWarbo, file a bug yet?02:26
jordan_Warbo, i couldn't get it to find my sources.list file02:26
PhenaxJamminpotato: I just offer support for all distros -- they're a like a lot so I can give support for most of them02:26
HeathenDani personally use opera02:26
cello_raspmcphail... larger memeory footprint != better programming02:26
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jordan_how do you access files on a file server02:26
_tccCan someone help me set up aircrack on this massive piece of garbage?02:26
Warboeyequeue: Actually I have been scouring all of the .py files I can find, looking for the damn beckground section :)02:26
dravasPhenax how do you restart X02:26
_tcchttp://www.turkeyfarm.net/blog/2006/06/22/cracking-wep-with-linux-actually-works/02:26
SonicChao_tcc: What?02:26
_tccI am following that tutorial.02:26
Phenaxdravas: ctrl+alt+backspace I believe02:26
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mcphailcello_rasp: you have asked for something which looks and works better. Dillo looks lousy and works badly because it is a compromise on all fronts02:27
JamminpotatoPhenax, i mean comparing the irc rooms02:27
_tccWhen I try to build it I get Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build does not exist.  Stop.02:27
dravasok02:27
_tccWhy the hell is this?02:27
SonicChaodravas: Control+Alt+Backspace02:27
SonicChao!language > _tcc02:27
w30ToHellWithGA, plumbing is easy if you have a pocket full of cash, enough gas and do your work when the store is open.02:27
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_tccHeh, I try and keep it family friendly.02:27
eyequeueWarbo, if you find it, do let them know so others can benefit :) (a bug with a patch is always nice, heh)02:27
Warbo_tcc: You need linux-headers-2.6.15-23-38602:27
PhenaxJamminpotato: Ahhh, the channel I usually hang out for the distro I use always has active moderators/developers helping people out. It's not big at all but it's quite nice.02:28
Warboeyequeue: I have been programming Python for just over a week, so I feel a patch might do more harm than good :)02:28
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eyequeueWarbo, lol02:28
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PhenaxJamminpotato: But I agree, #ubuntu is quite nice.. mostly newb-helping-newb action, but that's good :)02:28
ToHellWithGAw30: are you any good with toilets? troubleshooting, not usage02:28
eyequeueWarbo, bug fixing is great for learning though, applause02:28
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_tccWarbo. thanks man\02:29
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JosephI have two partitions and I'm not sure which one is the Ubuntu Linux one... the ext3 or the ntfs?02:29
PhenaxJoseph: ext302:29
w30ToHellWithGA, google for Thomas J. Krapper02:29
HeathenDanext302:29
Josephthank you02:29
eyequeueJoseph, the former02:29
dsch04Hi, can anyone point me at docs on howto install a Freecom DVB-T USB stick on 6.06 ?02:29
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Phenaxdsch04: You can most likely just mount it.02:30
WarboToHellWithGA: If it's toilet HUMOUR you're after, then I'm your man :)02:30
Phenaxdsch04: You'll need the device name and filesystem type.02:30
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dsch04Phenax: NO, it's a DVB-T tunder, not a storage device!02:30
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dsch04(tuner)02:30
Phenaxdsch04: No idea what that is xD02:30
jaakkosPhenax: ntfs is most likely used by windows. microsoft isn't releasing any info on the drive system, and by default ubuntu can only read the contents of your windows (ntfs) -drive. writing might cause serious problem with the partition, though for most people it works ok02:30
w30ToHellWithGA, er, google for Thomas J. Crapper02:31
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Phenaxjaakkos: Writing doesn't work at all unless your replacing something in a file that results to the same exact size. ntfs-3g (Kernel module) supports full r/w (Not fully stable) and Captive NTFS offers a slow interface into it..02:31
__mikemThomas J. Crapper, he invented the toilet02:31
dsch04Phenax: http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=2234&CatID=&sCatID=02:31
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bkobyWhere are the .deb files from APT stored?02:32
jaakkosokay.02:32
bimberibkoby: /var/cache/apt/archives02:32
HeathenDan/var/cache/02:32
profoX`Phenax: ntfs-3g looks promising, captive-ntfs doesnt seem to be that good/stable at all, even though it uses the ntfs.sys02:32
bkobybimberi: thanks!02:32
HeathenDanor that02:32
SonicChaobkoby: Tell me if you figure it out02:32
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bimberibkoby: np :)02:33
jordan_my favorite way to set up a dualboot is windows on ntfs partition, linux ext3, swap, and a large fat32 "media" partition with all of the files i want accessed by both02:33
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d_is there a way to install grub mamually?02:33
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bimberi!grub02:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:33
SonicChaod_: I would believe so02:33
w30__mikem, my biggest ambition in life is to have a bodily function named after me, like spit or anyyhing  :=)02:33
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bruenig!patience > bruenig02:33
profoX`jordan_: yea although windows can read/write ext3 too with additional programs, and then you have journalling :)02:33
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NewtoUbuntuHey any1 here running arkhart on dapperdrake?02:34
thedashit apparently didn't recognize my win install, so it didn't install itself02:34
eauxnguyenI need to go w30 lol02:34
Phenaxthedash: You'll have to edit the grub configuration.. I don't use GRUB but someone can help you with that.. maybe even the intarweb02:34
Phenaxbbiab02:34
jaakkosand Phenax, the message was intended for joseph of course... who in addition had already quitted, so i guess it's time for me to go crouch in the corner :)02:34
NewtoUbuntuAny1 here running the game arkhart on dapperdrake?02:35
bruenigNewtoUbuntu, ask your question02:35
NewtoUbuntuok02:35
Phenaxjaakkos: Lol, I figured that but I like typing responses :D02:35
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jaakkos:)02:35
NewtoUbuntui need help runnign arkhart can any1 tell me how i run it i have already installed it02:35
ZambeziCan anyone help me changing the rights on a folder on hdb1?02:35
saikoi like gnome-baker02:35
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dravasyay02:35
JbirkHi02:35
JbirkHow do I install and use wine?02:36
bruenigNewtoUbuntu, open a terminal and try arkhart02:36
FlannelZambezi: where is hdb1 mounted?02:36
bruenig!wine02:36
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:36
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NewtoUbuntulike type .arkhart?02:36
ZambeziFlannel, /mnt/hdb102:36
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bruenigNewtoUbuntu, type "arkhart"02:36
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w30eauxnguyen, In 50 years no one will remember Warren Buffet but after 150 years ole' Tomas J. is still being appealed to. ha02:36
eauxnguyenthanks for the x fix to all involved02:36
FantasticFoowhoohoo, finally got X working after that horrid update02:36
NewtoUbuntucommand not found02:36
ZambeziJbirk, sudo apt-get install wine is the beginning.02:36
NewtoUbuntubruenig02:36
eauxnguyenhah02:36
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bruenigNewtoUbuntu...02:37
NewtoUbuntuyes?02:37
Sarra_I have a question02:37
bruenigyou said my name02:37
NewtoUbuntui said command not found02:37
Sarra_Is there a way to get Owner privs for a VFat partition?02:37
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bruenignewtoubuntu, I am installing it now. I will see02:38
eyequeueSarra_, man chown02:38
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NewtoUbuntuok thank u02:38
Sarra_chown has not worked02:38
WarboCan I add attachments to launchpad bug reports (like a screenshot to illustrate the problem)?02:38
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FlannelSarra_: you need to change the umask02:38
profoX`Sarra_: yea sure you have to add options:02:38
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NewtoUbuntulet me know after u have installed it please02:38
profoX`like umask=00002:38
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mrmojoHello02:38
Sarra_Okay02:38
mrmojoHow does one pass an SSH password into the SSH command02:38
profoX`Sarra_: do you mount manually or through fstab ?02:38
eyequeuemrmojo, unwise, don't02:39
mrmojoand why would that be.02:39
Sarra_The drive is always mounted, unless I unmout it using umount02:39
bruenigNewtoUbuntu, I installed it via sudo apt-get install arkhart, I assume you did the same. And it was in the games menu under applications02:39
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w30Sarra_, if your window has mounted it. it will be read only. Go to a console and unmout it and remount it from console.02:39
eyequeuemrmojo, man ssh for syntax etc, but it will show up in your ~/.bash_history if it is on the command line02:39
NewtoUbuntuno but i will do it that way02:39
natural20Certain webpages won't load for me, I've used FF, Epiphany, and Opera.  I know the pages work because I've tried them on different comps.  Any Ideas?02:39
bruenigNewtoUbuntu, how did you install it02:39
Sarra_w30: I've done that repeatedly, and it won't let me change anything on that partition02:39
profoX`Sarra_: please do: cat /etc/fstab and post the contents on www.pastebin.ca02:39
mrmojoi've looked at the manpages and i can't seem to figure a way out02:40
rofl0rhow can i change back the language of ubuntu to english ? the german translations of many apps make them unusable02:40
FantasticFoohas anybody messed with XGL in here?02:40
bruenignatural20, give me a link to one such page02:40
FantasticFooand compiz02:40
NewtoUbuntui just ran the install.sh file02:40
profoX`FantasticFoo: whats wrong02:40
eyequeuemrmojo, perhaps you are looking for authorized_keys?02:40
FlannelFantasticFoo: #ubuntu-xgl02:40
thedashcould somebody share with me what their winxp entry in grub looks like?02:40
NewtoUbuntuill install it like u did02:40
NewtoUbuntuthank u02:40
Sarra_Okay, thanks profoX`02:40
FantasticFooFlannel: oh, cool!02:40
mrmojoNo. I want to do something like --password mypass02:40
eyequeuemrmojo, the -i switch is safe, in that circumstance02:40
mrmojoOk.02:40
natural20bruenig, they are pages you need to be logged in or a member of, such as MyEbay or Yahoo Groups message boards.02:40
bruenigNewtoUbuntu, you should try to install as much as you can from the repositories. You can do that graphically in synaptic. System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager, or you can do it from the command line with apt-get02:40
profoX`FantasticFoo: I think #xgl has more people and most people there seem to use ubuntu anyway ;)02:41
eyequeuemrmojo, you don't want that, for the reason mentioned02:41
FantasticFooprofoX`: oh... ok!02:41
cynicalthedash: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=1002:41
mrmojoBelieve me, I do. Is there a way to do it?02:41
eyequeuemrmojo, the authors say you don't, hence won't write it :)02:41
NewtoUbuntuok02:41
mrmojoSo no?02:41
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eyequeuemrmojo, right02:41
mrmojoShitty.02:41
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eyequeuemrmojo, no, it is for your own good02:42
bruenignatural20, can you give me a link. Because those pages might not display for a variety of reasons. The fact that you have to be logged into or a member of them would not affect thier ability to be displayed02:42
eyequeuemrmojo, what exactly do you need to accomplish?02:42
mrmojoNo, it really isn't. I'm not a baby, I know what I'm doing. I want to automatically sftp the rsa password file to the remote server02:42
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natural20bruenig, http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/epicduels/messages02:42
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profoX`Sarra_: to mount manually you have to add -o umask=000, and if you want it to be done automatically you have to put the option "umask=000" in your /etc/fstab // if you don't know how, type: "cat /etc/fstab" and post the output of that command on www.pastebin.ca02:42
eyequeuemrmojo, why not use -i and a key?02:42
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xangeif you knew what you were doing then is there a point in asking for help?02:43
mrmojoWell, how do I do that keeping in mind that I have never connected to this server before?02:43
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FantasticFooprofoX`: i'll be in #xgl then, i guess02:43
bruenignatural20, what is not displaying on that, The top part (I ask because there is a flash animation there) or the entire page just won't load?02:43
eyequeuemrmojo, do you have an account on it, first?02:43
mrmojoYes. With a password. That is it. I want to automatically set up a way to SFTP some files without any user intervention.02:43
JordanI am having problems following these instructions http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19845302:44
eyequeuemrmojo, ssh-keygen locally, then scp that file ... it will prompt for the passphrase02:44
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eternalswdis anyone else having trouble accessing ubuntuforums.org?02:44
JordanYes I am02:44
mrmojoPrompt as in I have to type  the passphrase?02:44
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eyequeuemrmojo, then append that to authorized_keys, such as this, if you need the help (don't be insulted)02:44
JordanNow it's back I think ( Ubuntuforums.org)02:44
cynicaleternalswd: I've been having problems all day02:44
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barikokiBuenas noches!02:45
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profoX`ubuntuforums is very slow so I think it's just a bad server/connection --> too many people visiting ubuntuforums02:45
barikokiAlguien puede ayudarme con el tema de las particiones?02:45
mrmojoeyequeue: does this at any point involve me having to type the password?02:45
natural20bruenig, without fail i can get to that page, but once i start to navigate portions not available to the public, the page fails to load.02:45
eyequeuemrmojo, ssh to the remote host, then: cat yourkeyfile >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys02:45
Josephwhen asked to choose one of "dev/discs/disc0/partX" how do I know which partition has Ubuntu on?02:45
Josephi know it is hda3 if that helps02:45
swarmubuntu forums seems to work fine for me02:45
JordanThe Ubuntu forums slow down probably has to do with the xserver problems02:45
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eyequeuemrmojo, if you ssh into the remote host, then yes, you type the passphrase the once (then you can disable it)02:45
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istealyermp3sO:02:45
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eyequeuemrmojo, and yes, also for that first scp02:46
profoX`Joseph: disc 0 part 2 I think02:46
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ikarugaanyone know how to troubleshoot PHP?02:46
Josephyou... think? :P02:46
orbinJoseph: what's asking you that?02:46
JordanI can't get internet in a chroot ( I need to to follow instructions posted here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453)02:46
infamousei'm trying to mount a windows share and i'm recieving this error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //Beast/Music, missing codepage or other error".  I'm following exactly how the ubuntu guide tells me to do it, so what's wrong?02:46
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profoX`Joseph: yea, i mean, thats the way grub does it with (hdx,y)02:46
profoX`and since it says disc 002:47
ZambeziFlannel, Could you help me?02:47
profoX`it starts with 0 there too02:47
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vdepizzolubuntu edgy will come with what version of gaim?02:47
profoX`so I suppose part is y-102:47
Josephi am recovering GRUB after installing windows, and it asks me to choose my Ubuntu partition02:47
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profoX`Joseph: I'd go for disc 0 part 2 :P02:47
KenSentMevdepizzol: 2.002:47
Sarra_I think I added the umask to fstab right02:47
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vdepizzolKenSentMe: hmm.. ok02:47
Josephok, ill get one other persons say on it, before i do anything :P02:47
natural20so if i lead my message with someone's name, does irc highlight the message for that person?02:47
profoX`Sarra_: then umount the partition and type "sudo mount -a"02:48
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profoX`Joseph: ok ;)02:48
Sarra_Ooh, glad I looked at it again, I made a typo02:48
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Josephorbin: do you know which partition will be the ubuntu one, then?02:48
orbinJoseph: he's right.02:48
Josephoh ok02:48
Josephthank you!02:48
Josephlots!02:48
orbinJoseph: if / is on hda3 ...it'll be (hd0,2)02:49
Josephyes thank you02:49
KenSentMenatural20: yes, and most irc chat programs have a autotype function, type the first letters of a name and press tab to complete the name02:49
NewtoUbuntuBruenig, i have decided this game would run better on my ubuntu labtop so could u tell me hwo to uninstall it form this computer using the command line?02:49
orbingrub counts from zero like profoX` said02:49
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JordanCan anyone help me? # sudo ifup eth002:50
Jordansudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()02:50
Sarra_No workie02:50
profoX`orbin: yea grub, but i wasn't sure about the /dev/discs/disc0/partX - i suppose it starts part with 0 too because disc start with 002:50
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profoX`Sarra_: post the output of "cat /etc/fstab" on www.pastebin.ca02:50
Sarra_I think I will02:51
Sarra_Thanks02:51
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Jordansorry ifup eth0 gives me the error "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()02:51
Jordan"02:51
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ubuntui'm back didnt work sudo app/get update02:51
argumenti've got an issue with my network freezing while using bittorrent - my router actually stops responding when I ping it's IP. if I shutdown the computer *and* power off the router... then power the router back on and then power my computer back on, network comes back just fine02:52
NewtoUbuntuCan any1 here tell me how to uninstall a game via the command line?02:52
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argumentbut if I *just* power off the router and power it back on02:52
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argumentno amount of /etc/init.d/networking restart will actually unfreeze the network02:52
profoX`ubuntu: you mean: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:52
profoX`right?02:52
argumenti still can't ping my router's IP02:52
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profoX`Sarra_: so?02:52
james_xxxi am using a linksys wusb54g v.4 wireless adapter in kubuntu 6.06.1. i have it working, however... my computer occasionally locks up when i am surfing the internet, and i have to reboot. also, if the computer is left idle for a periiod of several hours, it often locks up and has to be rebooted. i do not know if these issues are even connected to the use of this wireless adapter....02:52
swarm_Does anyone know how to resume a torrent using the lynx torrent system?02:52
profoX`Sarra_: have you posted it on pastebin.ca02:52
ubuntuit says fatal server error no screens found02:52
argumentis there any possibility there might be some ROM settings or something getting screwed up? can I flush my network card somehow?02:52
james_xxxi am looking at an ubuntu forum on the wusb54g wireless adapter (not the one i used to get mine working), and the person who wrote it has blacklisted some modules that i did not blacklist, so i am wondering if that might be an issue?02:52
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argumentswarm_, torrents auto resume by default02:53
ubuntu/usr/share/x11/fonts/cyrillic02:53
profoX`ubuntu: yea it was a wrong package. did you try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:53
argumentswarm, i just use btdownloadcurses, if the folder is there it first checks the files to see what's been downloaded then keeps downloading from there02:53
profoX`ubuntu: that exact command?02:53
swarm_k02:53
JordanI am new to IRC, is nobody responding to me because nobody knows how to help?02:53
argumentswarm_, the gui's have been rather unstable for me02:53
Sarra_profoX`: I just did a few moments ago02:54
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argumentJordan, there could be any number of reasons: moral of the story is "present your problem and wait"02:54
swarm_when using mininova, it gives u a www.mininova.org/get/3214402:54
profoX`Sarra_: welll... post me the link? ;) so i can look at it.. that was the point of pastebin02:54
argumentJordan, if it doesn't work, come back in a few hours02:54
bruenigis there any significance to where you put the .exe's when you are using wine. Should you put them in the appropriate part of the .wine directory or does it matter?02:54
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swarm_how do u get a .torrent out of that?02:54
Sarra_http://pastebin.ca/14547402:54
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argumentswarm_, you download it02:54
profoX`Sarra_: thanks02:54
Sarra_Sure02:55
Josephorbin: I tried to use part 2 but the background went red and gave me an error02:55
bruenigswarm, are you sure there is a torrent there. It may have been deleted02:55
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swarm_brandon_, that was example02:55
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orbinJoseph: are you restoring it after a windows install or something?02:56
Josephyes02:56
disastormdoes anyone know how to install firefox32 on 64-bit02:56
swarm_http://www.mininova.org/get/33707402:56
swarm_to be exact02:56
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orbinJoseph: i'm deferring to the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:56
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bruenigswarm_, when you click that link firefox should present you with a dialog asking you where to save it02:56
bruenigit does for me02:56
Josephthose instructions say i should know the number02:56
argumentdisastorm, there are methods... you can install it into a 32 bit chroot jail iirc02:56
bruenigif not, try right clicking on it and clicking save link as02:56
orbinJoseph: looks like you just do /dev/hda3 if / is on that part.02:56
argumentdisastorm, try the wiki/forums02:57
argumentdisastorm, it's a common problem02:57
Josephbut im at step 502:57
Josephi am presented with:02:57
swarm_bruenig, i am doing this via a ssh session02:57
Josephdev/discs/disc0/part1, dev/discs/disc0/part2, dev/discs/disc0/part3, dev/discs/disc0/part4 and dev/discs/disc0/part502:57
Josephto choose from02:57
swarm_where do i get bittorrenycurses?02:57
swarm_torrent02:57
Flannelswarm_: it's already installed, btdownloadcurses02:57
argumentdisastorm, don't PM people wihtout permission02:58
orbinJoseph: ah, choose part3 then, sorry.02:58
janubuntuhas anyone had problems with the updated xserver-xorg-core?02:58
argumentdisastorm, besides, you never know, i might be walking out the door in 5 minutes and then if you depend on JUST me for your answer that's kinda lame02:58
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Flanneljanubuntu: see topic02:58
Josephdefinitely sure? :P02:58
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swarm_hmmm02:58
argumentjanubuntu, like what?02:58
orbinJoseph: grub itself enters the partition counting from zero ... the installer seems to refer counting from 102:58
swarm_that's the client lynx seems to use02:58
swarm_ok, now....02:58
Josephyes it does02:58
Josephok02:59
Josephso 302:59
Josephthanks02:59
disastormwhat is the red msg text02:59
orbinJoseph: quite.  good luck02:59
Joseph=] 02:59
swarm_how do i download the .torrent file from btdownloadcurses at the command line?02:59
janubuntui get a no screens error in the xorg log02:59
swarm_er02:59
swarm_i mean02:59
swarm_http://www.mininova.org/get/33707402:59
janubuntuFlannel how do i do that?02:59
bruenigswarm_, mininova has a weird setup whereby it wont allow you to download torrents from links. You have to actually go to its page and then click on it. It wants you to visit its site I suppose in  order to gain ad revenues. For instance, if you were to put that link up on another page and click on it. It wouldn't download the torrent it would automatically redirect you to a page where you click on a link to download it. That might 02:59
orbinjanubuntu: what xserver-xorg-core version are you running?02:59
disastormhey has anyone here installed fire fox 32 bit on a 64 bit system02:59
user01hi im going to visit my sister who is having problems with her buslink external cd drive.... i know i was able to burn wav files onto a cd the last time i was there...are there are recommended steps for troubleshooting?03:00
swarm_hmm.03:00
swarm_lame03:00
swarm_:\03:00
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swarm_can i transfer files using ssh?03:00
swarm_from my computer to the host computer03:00
swarm_or do i have to use ftp?03:00
eyequeueswarm, sort of.  use scp03:00
swarm_scp?03:00
janubuntuorbin 1:1.02-0ubuntu10.403:00
JordanI am trying to install Lilo from the Ubuntu liveCD ( I have already installed Ubuntu but can't boot into it without LILO ) I have chrooted into my Ubuntu installation and tried to apt-get install lilo but I can't get an internet within the chroot. Can I use apt-get normally from the liveCD to get a .deb file that I can install from within the chroot. I am trying to follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showt03:00
Jordanhread.php?t=19845303:00
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user01she says all the audio is garbled03:00
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eyequeueswarm, the command name is all that differs, it uses ssh protocol03:00
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user01and it doesnt even burn in serpentine03:00
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argumenthas anyone here had bittorrent lock up their network such that only a full powerdown/powerup of both router+computer will fix it?03:01
Jordanargument: I have03:01
eyequeueswarm, scp filename remotehost:/path/to/destination03:01
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janubuntuorbin not sure that that is precisely right03:02
orbinjanubuntu: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core03:02
jerrdaleWell, I have recovered from the damage done by the update, that royally sucked!03:02
swarm_hmmmmmm03:02
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orbinjanubuntu: which version is installed?03:03
argumentJordan, and the corrollary of that being do you know how to fix it?03:03
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Jordanargument:  No, sorry03:03
jerrdaleyes, it can be fixed03:03
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janubuntuorbin just a sec have to switch to the problem pc brb03:03
swarm_just bring up a > symbol03:03
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user01is there a general procedure to fix cd buring issues ?03:04
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tomasz27is there an update to the x server problem?03:04
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eyequeuetomasz27, /topic, and yes03:04
tomasz27cuz I see )ubuntu10.403:05
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eyequeuetomasz27, 10.4 is the fix03:05
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tomasz27so it is ok to update the OS?03:05
Josephorbin: I chose partition 3 and it continued. I then entered the following command line as it said:03:05
eyequeuetomasz27, yes03:05
tomasz27thank u03:05
Josephorbin: grub-install /dev/hda303:05
bruenigit is ok to install that update you say?03:05
user01should i just try reinstalling ubuntu?03:05
tomasz27yes, it is ok03:06
Josephorbin: it then told me about an error that could be ignored, then something about xfs-freeze (or something) and said that installation was complete03:06
janubuntuorbin installed is 10.3 but says candidate is 10.403:06
bruenigok, I am going to trust you on that03:06
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Josephorbin: i restarted and nothing happened03:06
orbinjanubuntu: apt-get upgrade03:06
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orbinjanubuntu: put a sudo in front of that03:06
orbinjanubuntu: 10.3's the broken one03:06
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janubuntuorbin ok ty veryu much03:07
swarm_is there a ftp server enabled by default?03:07
user01is there another channel i should be on for cd burning issues in ubuntu?03:07
dmsantamswarm_, no03:07
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FRETwhat is the command to get the ubuntu version?03:07
swarm_darn :(03:07
istealyermp3so.O03:07
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istealyermp3sfret03:07
swarm_need to put a file from my ubuntu distro on another computer03:07
istealyermp3sversion of what ?03:07
istealyermp3suname -r03:07
istealyermp3stry that03:07
istealyermp3sor uname -a03:07
istealyermp3sIO:03:07
istealyermp3sO:03:07
FRETistealyermp3s, that gives me the version of the kernel03:08
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Josephorbin: can you help?03:08
istealyermp3sdo the second one03:08
dmsantamFRET, cat /etc/lsb-release03:08
istealyermp3sLinux dapper 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux03:08
istealyermp3sseee that ????03:08
istealyermp3sim on version dapper03:08
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istealyermp3swhich is ubuntu 6.0603:08
istealyermp3swhat do you get for unmae -a03:08
FRETdmsantam, that's it, thx03:08
istealyermp3sDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu03:08
istealyermp3sDISTRIB_RELEASE=6.0603:08
istealyermp3sDISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper03:08
istealyermp3sDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"03:08
istealyermp3so:03:08
istealyermp3sor that03:09
istealyermp3snice dmsantam03:09
dmsantam:)03:09
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vapermonkey00hey thanks for the help that worked (no screen)03:09
FRETistealyermp3s, my output from uname -a is differnt03:09
orbinJoseph: ok, i'm no expert, but i'm assuming that it's installing grub to the partition, but you need to overwrite the windows mbr03:09
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dmsantamuname -a is for kernel version03:09
istealyermp3sfret yes i know03:09
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dmsantama little different :)03:09
istealyermp3sbut it has the dapper in there03:09
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istealyermp3sdmsantam, yeah03:09
BrokenPipeIs there a problem with the AMD64 Install CD? It just freezes on my system after it says it's loading the kernel.03:09
Josephorbin: how do i do that?03:09
istealyermp3sbut with ubuntu it still has the distro name there03:09
FRETistealyermp3s, not here03:09
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dmsantamnor here03:09
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istealyermp3sfret what exactly is your output of 'uname -a'03:10
orbinJoseph: you have the install cd right?  can you use a browser now?  look at this section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-d24e9ed91fd47ac6f436756da4a565afbe5762ec03:10
FRETistealyermp3s, Linux FRET 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux03:10
bruenigit only gives kernel03:10
Josephahh03:10
dmsantamistealyermp3s, yours is not saying dapper03:10
superjew9020how do i change default apps in ubuntu03:10
swarm_good ftp server?03:10
Josephso i follow these steps?03:10
istealyermp3snot uname -r03:10
dmsantamit's saying your HOSTNAME is dapper03:10
istealyermp3suname -a03:10
JordanHow can I get the LILO .deb file from apt-get03:10
istealyermp3soooooooooooo03:10
istealyermp3so yeh03:10
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dmsantam;)03:10
istealyermp3sshit forgot its like that03:10
istealyermp3slol03:10
istealyermp3ser03:10
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istealyermp3ssh1t i emant03:10
istealyermp3s~_~03:10
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superjew9020how do i change default apps in ubuntu?????????03:10
istealyermp3soops even03:10
dmsantamit was a good effort anyway hehe03:10
orbinJoseph: i'd try that, yes....just remember like it says, don't format the partitions or you'll lose the install03:10
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istealyermp3ssystem > preferences > default applications superjew902003:11
mainerto wipe win from /mbr use a dos/windows boot-floppy or cd fdisk /mbr then install grub03:11
bruenigsuperjew9020, you curse the gnome developers and deal with it03:11
eyequeuesuperjew9020, you have some file, eifgt ckick on it and associate another app03:11
VerithraxHey, thanks for the help earlier.03:11
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istealyermp3sor what eyequeue said03:11
janubuntuorbin thank you worked like a charm very very much appreciated03:11
eyequeuesuperjew9020, right click03:11
dravas!nvidia03:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:11
d00byHey I need help! the update for xorg trashed my install03:11
orbinjanubuntu: welcome03:11
bruenig!xorgbugfix03:11
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ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.03:11
eauxnguyentell eauxnguyen /sound03:11
istealyermp3sright click > properties > open with tab > select preferred app03:11
eyequeued00by, /topic03:11
eauxnguyenok worth a try03:12
Josephorbin: are the partions in step 4 not already mounted if i have linux installed?03:12
d00byeyequeue, you and your silly reading :)03:12
Josephorbin: if not, how do i mount them at the manual partition screen?03:12
VerithraxUnfortunately, the new Xorg server crashed irretrievably after that, but going into restore mode and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked.03:12
eauxnguyenany ideas on getting sound running on a thinkpad t20? worked using the ubuntu guide fix on 5.10 and now no worky on dapper03:12
tomasz27does the update applies to a brand new download of the ISO as well?03:12
superjew9020uhh where do i right clik03:12
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bruenigsuperjew9020, on the file whose default app you want to change03:13
JordanHow do I just get a .deb file from apt? As in to use on another machine without an internet connection.03:13
eyequeuesuperjew9020, places > home filder, for example03:13
orbinJoseph: i can't say for certain...but i think it should "mount" them for you ... it should have the diagram of partitions on the disk03:13
superjew9020how do i make xmms my default mp3 player03:13
eyequeuesuperjew9020, that app is called nautilus, and any place that is open you can do this03:13
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superjew9020how do i make xmms my default mp3 player03:13
orbinsuperjew9020: <istealyermp3s> right click > properties > open with tab > select preferred app03:14
istealyermp3sO:03:14
eyequeuesuperjew9020, click on an mp3, then associate xmms03:14
istealyermp3si got quoted!03:14
orbinsuperjew9020: in nautilus03:14
superjew9020will it do that to all of them03:14
istealyermp3syes03:14
istealyermp3sfor each extention it does that03:14
janubuntuBlueEagle just wanted to say i found out what that usb1 is on tha pc03:14
Josephorbin: it has a list of the different partitions03:14
istealyermp3svideo files for instance:03:14
Josephorbin: and you can select each one and edit it03:14
janubuntuBlueEagle i was just jan the other day03:14
istealyermp3savi // mkv // ogg // mp4 are all considered seperate03:14
istealyermp3s:)03:14
eauxnguyenany ideas on sound on a thinkpad? followed the ubuntu guide with no joy03:14
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istealyermp3seauxnguyen,03:15
istealyermp3sfirst do you have a mixer of some sort ?03:15
orbinJoseph: right...IIRC, when you go to the next step, there are checkboxes saying "format?"03:15
istealyermp3si prefer alsamixer03:15
swarm_un-mute :P03:15
orbinJoseph: uncheck them obviously03:15
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Josephorbin: well it gives you an option to format03:15
istealyermp3ssecondly did you put in support for the file u need to play... restriced codecs  for instance03:15
Josephorbin: there are other options too03:15
orbin!sound > eauxnguyen03:15
Josephorbin: will one be to mount?03:15
BlueEaglejanubuntu: well, are you gonna tell me?03:15
orbinJoseph: are you in the installer right now?03:16
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janubuntuBlueEagle it was a PC to PC network thing on the mothetrboard03:16
Josephorbin: no, i am having to switch between the installer and windows03:16
bruenigjordan, you can download the .deb from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/, that has all of the packages in the repos. There probably is a way to do it with apt-get but I don't care to figure that out right now03:16
BlueEaglejanubuntu: o'rly? Well there you go. :)03:16
John[1] Can someone tell me waht to add or comment out in the sources.list to get the latest and greatest update and fix my desktop not installing issue?03:16
FRETgood night all03:16
BlueEagleubotu: tell john[1]  about easysource03:17
janubuntuBlueEagle at leats that puzzle is solved03:17
d00byeyequeue, I LOVE YOU! YOU ARE MY NEW HERO!03:17
orbinJoseph: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7665203:17
BlueEaglejanubuntu: ;D03:17
eyequeued00by, groovy03:17
orbinJoseph: you need to mount the partitions yourself (see post 8)03:17
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Josephorbin: ok thanks, ill take a look at that03:17
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rmdwhy does scienceblogs.com kill firefox?03:18
sethkrmd, doesn't kill mine03:18
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rmdof course03:18
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rmdgod hates me03:18
profoX`rmd: excessive flash maybe? it works fine here03:18
sethkrmd, there have been several people tonight with firefox issues03:18
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sethkrmd, not just you03:19
orbinJohn[1] : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main  has the update03:19
chris__hi i built Xfce, how do i let gdm know about it so I can select it?03:19
sethkrmd, getting segmentation violations03:19
eyequeueanf flash and firefox have always been iffy for some people03:19
Flannelchris__: it should already be in there, is it not?03:19
sethkrmd, it's possible that I don't see it because I installed from mozilla.org instead of using the packages03:19
orbinchris__: it should be in the sessions menu03:19
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eauxnguyen<istealyermp3s> thanks, no mixer found. maybe that's the problem heh03:19
chris__no its not there03:19
orbinchris__: how did you install it?03:19
chris__i built it in /home/chris/local03:19
Flannelchris__: under session?03:19
profoX`eyequeue: yea i think its because of aoss that people experience problems with firefox+flash03:19
profoX`eyequeue: i'm going to test more tonight03:19
sethkprofoX`, I'm not sure that's really the story, but it is likely part of it03:20
thompai want to backup one dvd, is copy disc to disk image what i want to do?03:20
orbinchris__: you built xfce from source?03:20
chris__i used the installer to build it03:20
orbinwhy not just grab it from apt?03:20
BlueEaglejohn[1] : You're desktop is not "installing"?03:20
bruenigaoss always made firefox crash when I used it for flash. It allowed me to have flash and another app with sound going at the same time. But after I watched the animation. It always crashed. I did away with it and now it doesn't crash. I can't have the mixing anymore but that is better than crashing03:20
profoX`sethk: well epiphany worked fine, and i did aoss epiphany, and it crashed like it did on firefox today..03:20
sethkBlueEagle, your,   you're means you are03:21
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azathothfor some reason, sound stops working after a few hours in ubuntu...03:21
profoX`bruenig: exactly! i found that out now03:21
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sethkprofoX`, that's interesting03:21
profoX`sethk: yes, very03:21
BlueEaglesethk: You are most right. Again it's 3:22 am here and I'm having a beer. :)03:21
azathothwhat can i use to find out whether it's a driver issue or what03:21
azathoth?03:21
sethkprofoX`, but I'm not certain that is the only thing making firefox crash03:21
profoX`sethk: in combination with flash you mean?03:21
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profoX`well.. flash IS pretty dumb by design :)03:22
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KenSentMeazathoth: maybe there's an error message in /var/log/syslog03:22
chris__should i have choosen a differnt directory when the installer asked other than the default of /home/chris/local ?03:22
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sethkprofoX`, yes, there have been some problems reported with web sites that use the flash plugin03:22
bruenigchris__, you should have done it via apt03:22
chris__uhhh i was going after 4.403:22
sethkprofoX`, I am using KDE so that may also explain why I see different things in some cases03:22
swarm_ok, btdownloadcurses worked03:22
azathothhmmm... youtube video's play sound fine03:23
profoX`sethk: kde is good :)03:23
swarm_but it was at 80% before, now 8%03:23
swarm_:\03:23
azathothbut normal sounds (even default system sounds_ don' work... lemme check the log03:23
Flannelswarm_: would the first one have been the torrent file downloading?03:23
sethkchris__, you can add it to gdm, but it's a bit complicated03:23
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swarm_Flannel, what do you mean?03:23
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azathothnothing in the log03:24
JordanSomebody has to know how to get a .deb file from apt, I can't believe it's that hard. Do I need to clarify my question?03:24
chris__according to ubuntuguide.org (which i followed) "    *  finally to enable Xfce, you may need to enable it on the desktop manager (mark allow Xfce manage desktop)"03:24
chris__not sure what that means lol03:24
Flannelswarm_: the first 80% mightve been it downloading the torrent file03:24
bruenigJordan, doing sudo apt-get -d install whatever, will only download whatever. I don't know where it stores it but it downloads it somewhere03:24
sethkchris__, that's assuming you installed the package.  you built it, so it's a bit more work than that for gdm to see it03:25
smobruenig: most likely /var/cache/apt/archives/03:25
Dev05Jordan, when you download and intall deb packs, they are in /var/cache/apt/archives.03:25
swarm_Flannel, nah, it was at 2.8gb of 3.2gb03:25
chris__whats the apt package to get?03:25
Flannelchris__: xubuntu-desktop03:25
bruenigsmo, you are correct sir03:25
Jordanbruenig:  Dev05: Thanks.03:25
chris__oh yeah.. duh03:25
chris__hehe thanks03:25
chris__guess ill just go that route, thanks :)03:26
chris__im installing now03:26
orbinchris__: or xfce4 if you want the streamlined option03:26
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bruenigis there any reason to keep all of those debs archived?03:28
azathothhmmm, totem says the sound is in use by another app03:28
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azathothbut there's nothign else using it03:28
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azathothhow can i change engine so it can use multiple audio streams?03:28
azathothi'm in gnome btw03:28
sethkbruenig, it's documentation of what's on your system03:28
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bruenigsethk, and that is important...03:28
bruenig?03:28
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sethkbruenig, you can certainly envision situations where you might need to know.03:29
sethkbruenig, routinely, probably not.03:29
thanatos_where is the .xinitrc file?03:29
sethkbruenig, but if you find you have a problem that other people aren't having, the next step is to compare the state of your system to others03:29
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sethkthanatos_, usually in $HOME03:29
bruenigperhaps, I always made a habit of apt-get cleaning03:29
sethkthanatos_, I believe there is also a global one...03:29
danmorgfound my problem with ubuntu shutting down randomly: Aug 20 23:52:27 danpc kernel: [4295267.313000]  Critical temperature reached (-264 C), shutting down.03:30
bruenigi don't know why03:30
baconbaconbacon@laptop-bacon:~$ locate xinitrc03:30
baconbacon/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc03:30
sethkthanatos_, yes, there is /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc03:30
sethkthanatos_, note, no dot in front of the global one03:30
danmorgany ideas on how to get the kernel to ignore that?03:30
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AdamKrierdanmorg: are you sure you are definitely not overheating?03:31
sethkdanmorg, you can ignore it, but are you sure you want to?03:31
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danmorgsethk, never had a problem running windows.  besides, its a cheap pc i bought. eMachines.03:32
TheMafiaaI want to install ubuntu on my new laptop, do I download the live cd and install from that?03:32
sethkdanmorg, meaning you don't care if it melts?03:32
lispyi just found out some versions of ubuntu are still shipping darcs 1.0.5, but 1.0.5 has two rather serious bugs.  http://www.abridgegame.org/pipermail/darcs-users/2006-February/009694.html  who do i contact to let them know they should update the package?03:32
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sethkTheMafiaa, yes03:32
danmorgok.  you can quit laughing about eMachines now :)03:32
TheMafiaasethk, thanks03:32
bruenigThe Mafiaa, you need to download the live cd and burn it to disk03:32
danmorgsethk, pretty much.  any ideas?03:32
ircleuserUbuntu is getting HUGE! I keep seeing it on Digg.com. It's becoming very popular!03:32
TheMafiaaircleuser, I am a very long time redhat/fedora user and I am taking the plunge because of all the good things I have heard03:33
sethkdanmorg, I believe you can turn it off with sysctl03:33
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sethkircleuser, it is, but you don't need to install packages you don't use03:33
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ircleuserSethk: I don't mean huge as in "megabytes". Lol.03:34
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wickersanyone here notice a slow down when moving from the default kernel to the i686 kernel?03:34
sethkircleuser, oh, you mean number of users.  I like it and I've used just about all the major distros03:35
John[1] Okay, I got the source-o-matic list.  How can I get this on my ubuntu server?03:35
AdamKrierwickers, no, nothing noticable03:35
sethkwickers, I haven't personally but I've talked to several people who have03:35
sethkwickers, what processor?03:35
AdamKrierwickers, i didn't notice a speed-up either, though03:35
ircleuserSethk: When it comes time to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Eft, will we be able to do that with Update Manger?03:35
wickersPentium M03:35
wickersCentrino platform.03:35
ircleuser*manager03:35
sethkircleuser, yes03:36
sethkwickers, that's not the processor I've seen the issue with03:36
sethkwickers, what, specifically, is slowing?03:36
wickerswhat is?03:36
sethkwickers, an amd processor03:36
wickersGnome, application startup times, UI interactions.03:36
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jmac__Warning, Installed the xorg update and it killed X03:36
wickerssethk... well you should not be using i686 for an amd processor.03:37
wickers;)03:37
jmac__I had to roll back03:37
ircleusersethk: Cool03:37
sethkwickers, that's odd.  when you boot the old, i386 kernel, it goes away?03:37
jmac__known bug03:37
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ircleuserDoes anyone know how to get Dapper running on an iMac G5?03:37
sethkwickers, of course not, but there are compatibility claims from amd ...03:37
JbirkSe03:37
JbirkDownload the Power PC version of it03:37
keithhhhhIs there any software to connect to windows Remote Assistance03:37
keithhhhh?03:37
jmac__gnome-rdp03:37
jmac__or tsclient03:37
wickerssethk, well i have not tied going back yet, but I've noticed that on two different installs it gets noticabily sluggish after swaping out the kernel.03:37
ircleuserJbirk: It doesn't work on iMac G5s as far as I know. Many people have had trouble with it.03:37
sethkkeithhhhh, not that I've come across03:37
JbirkOh03:38
JbirkOuch03:38
keithhhhhsethk: oh man its an essential app for my friend transfering over03:38
JbirkTerminal Server Client 0.14003:38
Jbirkwww.rdesktop.org03:38
BlueEagle!anyone03:39
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:39
sethkkeithhhhh, possibly you can run it under wine03:39
sethkJbirk, I don't think he means terminal server03:39
ubuntuHi there03:39
AdamKrierwhat apps/libs are needed to play .mp4, if possible?03:39
keithhhhhsethk: Ill mention it to him03:39
Jbirkhttp://www.rdesktop.org/#status03:39
JbirkAwsome client03:39
mikulhow do i activate my network card, (eth0)?  is there anything like the command net-setup in ubuntu? or how do i do it? cause dhclient dosent work, just getting No DHCPOFFERS received03:39
Jbirkit can do VNC03:40
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ubuntuI have a slight problem. I am trying to install Ubuntu on a RAID1 array on nForce 4 SATA, and during the partition part, the drives show up as seperate drives. What should I do?03:40
rskgah, where does one get gmake03:40
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Flannelubuntu: use the alternate ISO03:40
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ircleuserIs it possible to run Ubuntu on an iMac G5?03:40
sethkrsk, make on linux is gmake03:40
rsksethk, ok but i dont have the command gmake03:41
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sethkrsk    ln -s /bin/make /bin/gmake03:41
IcemanV9mikul: sudo ifup eth003:41
rskand i need it for compile03:41
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Epoch71hey, i have a problem03:41
sethkrsk, sorry, ln /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake03:41
JbirkYOu have to install the compiler tools03:41
Epoch71i installed ubuntu a few days ago, it ran fine other than some wrestling with fglrx03:41
ubuntuFlannel: The alternate iso? Does it have a name, or is that it's name?03:41
sethkJbirk, no, he needs it with the name gmake, he already has make03:41
Epoch71i had fglrx installed and it was working fine, i'd rebooted it with those settings a few times03:41
Flannelubuntu: that is its name, it'll be downloadable from the same place you got the desktop iso03:41
rskalright03:41
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rsko/03:42
Epoch71then it updated something and gdm stopped working03:42
Jbirksudo apt-get install build-essential03:42
sethkJbirk, that's not what he needs03:42
ubuntuI got it with a magazine, but I'll find it. Thanks!03:42
sethkJbirk, you aren't listening03:42
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Epoch71gave me a no devices found/no screens error, i tried rebuilding xorg.conf with dexconf, no luck03:42
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_tccWhat is the name of the ncurses package?03:42
sethkEpoch71, see topic for fix03:42
sethk_tcc, ncurses, I think, let me check03:42
Epoch71oh03:42
Epoch71haha03:42
defaulthow do i stop gnome from starting at startup?03:42
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ubuntuFlannel: Oh, do you mean the one with the text-based installer?03:43
Flannelubuntu: right03:43
Dev05!tell Epoch71 about xorgbug03:43
Jbirksudo apt-get install gcc gmail03:43
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_tccI am trying to run airodump-ng and the damn thing just sits there.03:43
Jbirksorry I meant gmake03:43
ubuntuCool, then I have it! Thanks again!03:43
_tccIt clears the terminal and does nothing.03:43
swarm_bittorrentcurses for the win :)03:43
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eauxnguyenneed sound help with streaming radio on my thinkpad. Sound works on video03:43
sethkJbirk, he has make already.  he needs the _name_ gmake03:43
mikulIcemanV9, id dosent seam to work :S03:43
sethkJbirk, you aren't listening03:43
_tccsethk?03:44
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sethk_tcc, hold on a second ...03:44
_tccok03:44
John[1] Where can I go to donload athe lastest ubuntu dapper server that has all the fixes on it, so I do not have to keep trying do and update to no avail?03:44
mikulIcemanV9, getting NO DHCPOFFERS Received03:44
sethk_tcc, libncurses503:44
JbirkIt is time for a movie and a nap.  I slept 4 hours last night, have been up 16 and haven't eaten since I woke up03:44
mikulall the time03:44
sethk_tcc, that's in breezy, but I don't believe it has changed in dapper03:44
BlueEagle!info airodump-ng03:45
Epoch71thanks, i'll go try that fix03:45
ubotuPackage airodump-ng does not exist in dapper03:45
avisJbirk, it happens.  we are linux users.  sleep well.03:45
IcemanV9mikul: wireless or wired?03:45
mikulIcemanV9, wired03:45
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defaulthow do i stop gnome from starting at startup?03:46
sethkdefault, remove it from the things started for run level 203:46
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Once!xorgbug > Once03:46
keithhhhhmy friend has a notebook with a broken cdrom and cant boot from USB,  any ideas how he can install ubuntu?03:47
IcemanV9wired? hm. sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth003:47
bruenig!xorgbugfix > ONce03:47
eauxnguyenaplay sees the card, the alsa mixer has nothing muted..03:47
eauxnguyenstill no sound03:47
defaulthow03:47
mikulIcemanV9, i have a router with dhcp server, but i dont get any offers when i try to use dhclient or /etc/init.d/networking restart03:47
judari_question: I would like to install Dapper on a system that has Suse and Windows on it. Will Dapper recognise those installations and allow you to setup another partition for Dapper? or does it just install over those os' ?03:48
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Oncebruenig: Thank you03:48
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sethkjudari_, it will allow you to install without touching the existing partitions03:48
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Flanneljudari_: use the alternate ISO, it'll give you more flexibility03:49
IcemanV9mikul: i have the same setup as well. what did 'ifconfig' said? eth0, eth1 or whatever it said on your screen.03:49
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eauxnguyentell eaxnguyen sound03:49
orbindoesn't it depend if he has free space or not?03:49
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d4rkyone question - any old, warty warthog erotic wallpapers for perverted n00b?03:49
d4rky;p03:50
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defaulthow do i remove gnome from the things started for run level 2?03:50
Dyskanyone know if there's an X application which will print out the keyboard events it receives?03:50
sethkorbin, not exactly.  it will still give you the question about whether or not to overwrite03:50
DyskI'm trying to figure out what the scancodes are on my laptop keyboard.03:50
sethkorbin, if you say no, and there is no space, of course the install stops03:50
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sethkorbin, but it doesn't automatically use space because there is no free space03:51
dredhammerhello can anyone point in the right direction to complile the latest mimms 2.0.103:51
natural20bruening, do you remember my question from before? if so, am i asking the wrong questions - is it something not related to my browser?03:51
sethkDysk, run the xev app, put the cursor in its box, and type keys03:51
mikulIcemanV9, ifconfig gives me eth0 and lo. eth0 have no ip because it dosent get any from dhclient03:51
pydjDoes Ubuntu's remote desktop work remotely?  I can get it to work when both computers are on the same network, but not from different states.  I may need some kind of remote desktop from other country soon, but how to do it?  There could be several computers on the same IP address that I'm trying to connect to.03:51
orbinsethk: ah i see03:51
_tccWhat is a good way to control a "remote" Linux box graphically?03:51
_tccVNC sort of blows.03:51
Dysksethk, Thanks!03:51
judari_thanks sethk, Flannel, which ISO?  I only have the Dapper cd someone gave me. If I use that disc (the live cd w/ install) how does it mess with the mbr?  I have grub on it that SusE installed. Will Dapper just add itself to it, or will it add it's own menu ?03:51
pydj_tcc: same question here...03:51
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_tccAnd by good, I mean, it WORKS................03:51
default_tcc, webmin03:52
_tccpydj, we could use SSH X forwarding, but that's too much for what i want03:52
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Flanneljudari_: the liveCD gives you less flexibility, you'll get better partitioning/control/etc with the alternate ISO, including not touching grub and allowing you to add it later, etc03:52
pydj_tcc: how does that work?  I just need to control someone's desktop to save explanation time...03:52
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NkuMik1Can someone help me get my internet connection up on ubuntu?03:52
pydjNkuMik1: ask away...03:53
BlueEagleubotu: tell nkumik1 about anyone03:53
_tccI think you just edit the sshd config and launch a graphical application with the shell.03:53
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eauxnguyenubotu tell eauxnguyen about sound03:53
_tccAllow X forwarding.03:53
ryanakcais the wiki down?03:53
rmdryanakca: always03:54
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NkuMik1I'm not sure what the problem is.. it recognizes my atheros wireless adapter it sees my wireless network I tell it to activate the ath0 and tell it to connect to my wireless network but it seems to do nothing.  The network thing in the top corner just stays at lo03:54
damian_how do I upgrade to kernel 2.6.17?03:54
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_tcchttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X-forwarding03:55
pydj_tcc: I'll have to look into it.  Might work...03:55
_tccpydj03:55
profoX`damian_: why do you have to?03:55
_tccYup.03:55
sethkpydj, you can't control a desktop with an ssh connection03:55
profoX`dapper doesn't supply .1703:55
witlessi guess i need to rebuild my nvidia driver after the xorg update today?03:55
profoX`not by default anyway03:55
damian_profoX: supposedly bcm43xx only works with 2.6.17 kernel03:55
profoX`witless: I read so yes03:55
charlie01where i can get maps from brazil for palm T|X??????????????///03:55
sethkpydj, you can run applications from that machine onto another x display using ssh03:55
pydjsethk: any other suggestoins?03:55
profoX`damian_: broadcom? are you sure?03:55
judari_Flannel, is there a particular name for this alternate iso ? or is just called "alternate iso" ? ;)03:55
profoX`I thought it worked with .15 too03:55
_tccsethk, yeah that's what i mean03:55
profoX`but I'm not sure..03:55
sethkpydj, you want to have a desktop running on machine x but displayed on machine y?03:55
defaulthow do i remove gnome from the things started for run level 2?03:56
profoX`judari_: Alternate installer? maybe :)03:56
charlie01where i can get maps from brazil for palm T|X??????????????03:56
_tccuse vnc for that03:56
damian_profoX: well, they used to work, and now they stopped, and I asked someone in #wireless and he said you needed 2.6.1703:56
_tccvnc sucks03:56
Flanneljudari_: it's called he "alternate" iso03:56
sethkpydj, or do you want the desktop displayed on the machine and also displayed on another box?03:56
Flannel!tell judari_ about alternate03:56
profoX`default: I think /etc/inittab ?03:56
defaultk03:56
pydjsethk: I want an ubuntu live CD on computer in china and ubuntu installed on my laptop-- controlling the remote computer's desktop and applications.03:56
natural20so i can't load certain pages with opera, ff, or epiphany.  i know the pages work.  they are all pages that require login information.  any ideas?03:56
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IcemanV9NkuMik1: you need to change icon in the top panel from lo to ath0 by right-click03:56
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witlessprofoX`: thanks, didn't notice topic.  i'll check it out03:56
profoX`default: no i misunderstood the question03:56
pydjsethk: both computers with desktops.03:56
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sethkpydj, ok, you can use xdmcp for that03:56
NkuMik1icemanv9: and then it will just work?03:56
profoX`witless: np03:56
sethkpydj, the desktop displayed on your box while the remote box is running03:57
sethkpydj, but not displayed on the remote box03:57
IcemanV9NkuMik1: then you'll see some activities in the little tiny monitor03:57
_tccOh the X display manager03:57
sethk_tcc, right, the X xdmcp capability is turned on in the display manager03:57
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tpeltonanyone have any thoughts on sound, my kde sound works03:57
NkuMik1alright...03:57
tpeltonsound applications _dont_03:57
mhonnhi..03:57
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FliesLikeALapyou need to tell the applications to use the right audio output plugin probably03:57
judari_thanks Flannel..03:58
sethktpelton, is artsd running?03:58
tpeltonyes03:58
IcemanV9NkuMik1: i have ath0 card myself. it's a super card that makes me happy. :)03:58
tpeltoni tried stopping03:58
FliesLikeALapwhat applications have you tried?03:58
pydjsethk: I need it displayed on both computers... with IM chat going on at the same time...03:58
tpeltonstopping artsd03:58
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judari_Flannel, btw, have you heard the great lp "Flyin' The Flannel" ? If not, look it up .. :)03:58
wickersarg03:58
tpeltoni have a flight sim, and kaffeine and amarok that dont work03:58
sethkpydj, then you may be reduced to using vnc, which has awful performance03:58
tpelton"test sound" does03:58
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tpeltonflight sim uses the alsa api03:58
sethktpelton, I didn't say to stop artsd, I asked if it is running03:59
tpeltonchecked alsa mixer03:59
pydjsethk: an alternative to gotomeeting type of thing... VNC works find on the internal network here... but I don't konw how to do it over the Internet.03:59
tpeltonit _was_ and _is_03:59
NkuMik1icemanv9:  Im not too find of mine it seems it wasn't out of the box supported by most of the linux distros I tried without madwifi (i had trouble with that as well) anyways I will go try that thanks for your help03:59
_tccsethk, how do you enable that now?03:59
sethkpydj, the same way.03:59
sethk_tcc, xdmcp?  in the gdm.conf file03:59
pydjsethk: it doesn't want to connect when I do it.03:59
mhonnhalo i'm newbie in ubuntu03:59
IcemanV9NkuMik1: in my case, it "just works" out of the box.03:59
pydjsethk: how does it know which computer on the IP address to connect to?  I just tell the other person to get their IP from whatismyip.com and then I vnc to that IP address?04:00
tpeltontpelton   7375     1  0 21:36 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a04:00
NkuMik1your very lucky!04:00
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FliesLikeALappydj assuming they have the necessary ports forwarded if they're using a router04:00
sethkpydj, that's one way, yes, if the ip isn't static04:00
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mhonnhow to know if i'm run on superuser in ubuntu 5.10 ????04:00
profoX`mhonn: what do you mean ?04:00
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steven_hey im being port scanned while i am sitting in a cofffee shop... any advice?04:00
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baconbaconmhonn, on ubuntu the superuse is disabled by default04:00
tpeltonsethk, did i lose you ?04:00
sethkmhonn, id shows your current identity04:01
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pydjmhonn: type whoami at the terminal04:01
mhonni mean how to know if i run on super user04:01
sethktpelton, sorry.  artsd looks normal04:01
sethktpelton, does aplay work?04:01
mhonnbecause i can't install a aplication04:01
sethkmhonn, in a terminal you type id04:01
sethkmhonn, use sudo04:01
baconbaconmhonn, you run a command as superuser by prepending it with sudo04:01
pydjmhonn: you probably aren't unless you launched a program with sudo, or did sudo -s, or something like that.04:01
tpeltontpelton@monster:~/X-Plane 8.50 Beta 8$ aplay -l04:01
sethkmhonn, to install the app04:01
tpelton**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****04:01
tpeltoncard 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804] , device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804] 04:01
poningru!ubuntu04:01
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome04:01
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tpelton  Subdevice #0: subdevice #004:01
tpeltoncard 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804] , device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia CK804 - IEC958] 04:01
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tpelton  Subdevice #0: subdevice #004:01
poningruerr04:01
FliesLikeALap!paste04:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:02
poningru!sound04:02
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:02
steven_the bastard is still scanning me, any way i can block it?04:02
FliesLikeALapsteven_ mind telling me the details?  I don't think I missed your original problem04:02
FliesLikeALapnvm Steil04:02
FliesLikeALapsteven_ *04:02
tpeltonif i "use" alsa, kde "test sound" still works, kaffeine etc don't ...04:02
IcemanV9steven_: go up and knock the guy out ;)04:02
pydjFliesLikeALap: how do I tell them to do that?04:02
FliesLikeALapsteven_ find his IP address, and in a terminal do "route add -host <IP here> reject"04:02
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steven_FliesLikeALap: i am in a coffee shop,a nd my logs are freaking out cause im being scanned04:03
sethktpelton, I meant to ask whether aplay soundfile (soundfile is something.wav, typically)04:03
FliesLikeALapsteven_ see my previous message04:03
FliesLikeALappydj take a look at (and have them do it too) http://portforward.com04:03
steven_ok, i will do that, thanks04:03
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mhonnhow to install xmms in ubuntu04:03
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tpeltoni get static on an mp3 file ?04:03
FliesLikeALapmhonn sudo apt-get install xmms04:03
IcemanV9mhonn: sudo aptitude install xmms04:03
FliesLikeALaptpelton try another output plugin04:03
pydjFliesLikeALap: thanks.04:04
mhonnwhere i can get the xmms that suport to ubuntu 5.1004:04
tpeltonyou lost me on "output plugin" ?04:04
sethktpelton, sounds like multiple access to sound is working properly, so it must be configuration of the apps that aren't working for you04:04
J-_messed my xserver up... how can i "unmess it" lol, i downloaded an update and it's not working now04:04
FliesLikeALapmhonn that should work in 5.10 too04:04
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FliesLikeALapJ-_ try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:04
mhonni don't know where to download xmms for my ubuntu 5.1004:04
J-_thanks04:04
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FliesLikeALapmhonn open a terminal window and do "sudo apt-get install xmms"04:05
quintinCan someone here help me with a wireless problem please?04:05
tpeltonwhy  wouldn't kaffeine of all things work ?04:05
sethkbrb04:05
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quintinI am using ubuntu linux and I cannot get my prism2 card to connect.  I got it specifcally because it was supposed to be supported in linux.  I see ESSID of router in this dropdown list in gnome network settings, but it won't connect to network04:05
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sethk tpelton that is odd04:05
mhonnn i want to install but my pc not connect to internet04:05
baconbaconmhonn: with the apt-get command, the right version is installed04:05
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baconbaconoh ok04:05
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tpeltonbummer ...04:05
FliesLikeALapmhonn then you need to get the debian package from online and transfer it to that computer via some other means.  let me find the file for you04:05
sethktpelton, you've looked at the sound part of the kde control center?04:05
baconbaconhmm question to others, is xmms in main (probably not)04:05
tpeltonis "aplay" an alsa utility ?04:05
sethktpelton, yes04:05
Flannel!info xmms04:06
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB04:06
Flannelbaconbacon: yes04:06
sethktpelton, aplay == alsaplay04:06
tpeltonso that would indicate that alsa is setup correctly ...04:06
tpeltoni did double check kaffeine, and set it to use also as well04:06
tpeltonno joy04:06
tpeltonno errors04:06
tpeltonit just acts like the sound file is empty04:06
tpeltongoes right to the end04:06
tpeltonargh ...04:07
J-_how do i change  from irssi to do that FliesLikeALap?04:07
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tpeltoni have an nforce4 chipset04:07
J-_nvm04:07
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sethktpelton, you've checked the sound section of the control center?04:07
tpeltonAC'9704:07
tpeltonwell, i've looked at it and twiddled it some ...04:08
tpeltonwhat should i look _for_  ?04:08
sethktpelton, I think there is a test you can run from there, try it04:08
sethktpelton, I have to walk to dog, back in a few04:08
tpeltonk04:08
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FliesLikeALapmhonn  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xmms/xmms-dev_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb04:08
baconbaconaaah FliesLikeALap beat me04:09
FliesLikeALapsave that somewhere and transfer it to that computer.  I'm not sure what the dependencies might be, you might need other packages as well.  You may be best off downloading the i386 ubuntu DVD and installing it from there using apt, so you can have everything you might need04:09
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mhonnhow to install xmms in ubuntu but my pc not connect to internet04:10
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FliesLikeALap...04:10
FliesLikeALapI just explained that to you04:10
J-_when configuring xserver it asks me what driver to use, i have a geforce fx5200. what driver should i use?04:10
FliesLikeALapJ-_ install the nvidia drivers through apt04:10
FliesLikeALapcopy that file to the computer using a CD, USB disk, or something else, then do "sudo dpkg -i <that file>"04:10
FliesLikeALapmhonn  look at http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/sound/xmms so you know its dependencies04:11
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Xorsisthellllloooo04:11
ircleuserDoes Java not come with Ubuntu? When I try to load a website that I think was made using Java: http://www.doodlenow.com/ it doesn't work.04:11
FliesLikeALapif you have time to download and burn a 4gb dvd, you should download the i386 DVD and that way you'll have all of the packages you need04:11
azathothhow can i find out what process has locked my audio?04:11
FliesLikeALaphi Xorsist, if you have a question feel free to ask it04:11
Xorsistok04:11
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J-_is "nv" the driver that i'm suppose to use?04:11
Flannel!tell ircleuser about java04:11
donk3yAnyone here have a MythTV box?04:11
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quintinSo can anyon ehelp me with my wireless problem?04:12
ircleuserThanks Flannel.04:12
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FliesLikeALapJ-_ you can use nv for now to get it working, but if you want a better driver then you need to install the nvidia driver from apt04:12
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FliesLikeALapthen reconfigure X to use the "nvidia" driver04:12
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J-_im not sure which driver to install with apt-get04:12
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J-_thanks dude04:12
FliesLikeALapquintin I can try to help04:12
FliesLikeALapJ-_ for now just try nv04:13
J-_very much04:13
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mhonnhow much eth that suport to my ubuntu?04:13
azathothanyone? totem says my audio is being locked by another process... how can i find out which process is locking it?04:13
FliesLikeALapthen later on when that works, do "apt-cache search nvidia | grep driver"04:13
FliesLikeALapmhonn it will work fine04:13
J-_k04:13
azathothnvidia-glx will do it won't it?04:13
FliesLikeALapyes azathoth thats the one04:13
Xorsisti tried to install xgl and i didnt work right i guess and now my xserver is messed up and i cant get the gui to load04:13
azathoththen edit xorg.conf and change the driver from nv to nvidia04:13
quintinFliesLikeALap: ty.  where should I start?04:13
FliesLikeALapquintin what is the name of the wireless device?  ath0, wifi0, or something else?04:13
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John[1] Where can I download the lastest dapper server that is fixed so I can install the desktop?04:13
quintinFliesLikeALap: wlan004:14
FliesLikeALapJohn[1]  do you want the server or desktop disk?04:14
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FliesLikeALapquintin is this the computer that you're on right now?04:14
azathothfolks, totem says my audio is being locked by another process... how can i find out which process is locking it?04:14
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baconbaconXorsist: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl questions is best04:14
urmomcan someone help me?04:14
quintinFliesLikeALap: well no :)04:14
John[1] I would like to have the server that hs fixed so I can install the desktop.04:14
FliesLikeALapurmom just ask your question and we'll help if we can04:14
Xorsistok thank you bacon04:14
FliesLikeALapazathoth please don't repeat your question, at least not nearly that often04:14
urmommy question is here04:14
urmomhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1411339#post141133904:14
azathothsorry, but no-oen responded and i thought it got lost in the haze04:15
azathoth*one04:15
quintinFliesLikeALap: I am now trying to specify the IP address manually.  it is sending frames, but NOT receiving.  it shows a signal strength as well, but I don't seem to be associated with the access point04:15
mikuli have just installd ubuntu server, but i want to use xorg, what is the name?! isnt it xorg-x11? i cant find it, and xserver-xorg dosent seam to work, i cant start it with startx, why?04:16
FliesLikeALapquintin I'm going to have you try debugging this through the terminal, since I'm not familiar with any graphical wireless tools04:16
quintinFliesLikeALap: not a problem.04:16
Flannelurmom: youre using grub, I imagine?04:16
BlueEaglemikul: you could just install the viritual package xubuntu-desktop as it will give you a light-weight window manager and xorg.04:16
FliesLikeALapmikul if you want to install ubuntu from a server install, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"04:16
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urmomno yaboot04:16
John[1] I have screwed around most of the day trying get somewhere with installing the desktop to no avail.04:16
FliesLikeALapmikul or you can do "apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-desktop"04:16
urmomi use grub on my fedora box04:16
BlueEaglemikul: ...or ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome or kubuntu-desktop if you want kde.04:17
FliesLikeALapazathoth if you don't get an answer in here in what you feel to be a reasonable amount of time, you may be better off posting it on ubuntyuforums or linuxquestions04:17
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FliesLikeALapquintin is this the computer you're on now04:17
FliesLikeALap?*04:17
mikulthe thing is i dont want gnom!04:17
phxheathi, i have a dell dimension 8200 with its original cheapo sound card which i know ubuntu dapper should support (but it didnt detect it for some reason).. how can i fix this manually?04:17
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mikuli want fluxbox04:17
FliesLikeALapalright mikul then do "apt-get install xserver-xorg" and then whatever window manager you want04:17
quintinFliesLikeALap: no, it is not.04:17
FliesLikeALapok04:17
FliesLikeALap"sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox-desktop"04:17
FliesLikeALapor maybe it is just fluxbox04:17
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baconbaconjust fluxbox04:18
FliesLikeALapit is just fluxbox04:18
FliesLikeALapheh yeah04:18
BoarderXTis there any good pages to see if my laptop's hardware is fully supported?04:18
BlueEagleazathoth: You might need to specify it to use esd.04:18
FliesLikeALapquintin alright.  try doing ifdown wlan0 first to completely turn it off04:18
quintinFliesLikeALap: done04:18
FliesLikeALapquintin all of the commands I'm going to tell you to do are as sudo or root04:18
mikulFliesLikeALap, i did, but i cant start x, tried with startx but it dosent work04:18
FliesLikeALapquintin have you set up /etc/network/interfaces for this device?04:18
quintinFliesLikeALap: no04:18
azathothBlueEagle, how do i do that?04:18
BlueEagleazathoth: either that or you can stop esd and use alsa directly but that will (in most cases) limit you to one application using sound at a time.04:19
urmomcan anyone help me?04:19
quintinFliesLikeALap: when I do ifdown it say "error for wirelsss request "set essid" (8b1a0: set failed on device wlan0 ; operation not supported.'04:19
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FliesLikeALapyes urmom I can but I'm a bit busy at the moment04:19
azathothi'm using alsa at the moment, and it's fracking with things... i have oss installed but no esd... should i go install it?04:19
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FliesLikeALapalright04:19
JackMacOKCurmom: as far as your boot order, you need to edit your grub menu.lst most likely04:19
BlueEagleazathoth: It's ususally a setting in the program.04:19
FliesLikeALapurmom there is a line in /boot/grub/menu.lst that says "default 0" and you need ot chanve that to the number of your OSX entry in the list04:20
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BlueEagleazathoth: I don't use totem so I wouldn't know. I find vlc to be a better video player.04:20
mhonncan my ubuntu 5.10 run a yahoo masenger?04:20
quintinFliesLikeALap: this is my great desktop linux experiment... really have to get this working so the guinea pig can start using it04:20
FliesLikeALapmhonn take a look at gaim04:20
azathothwell, it's the only one that gives me an error04:20
azathothsounds don't play from any app04:20
FliesLikeALapquintin edit (using your favorite editor) /etc/network/interfaces04:20
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phxheatanyone? how can i detect a soundcard in linux?04:20
quintinFliesLikeALap: k, what do I put in it?04:20
azathothlisten won't play sounds, even the default system sounds don't play and won't test04:20
John[1] apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-desktop I run this command and I get can't find gnome desktop04:20
FliesLikeALapquintin do you see any lines in there that say "wlan0" ?04:21
baconbaconFliesLikeALap, mhonn : yahoo messenger works just fine on ubuntu, but i would still use gaim04:21
quintinFliesLikeALap: yes.  shall I type them?04:21
azathothhowever, youtube files play sound..04:21
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FliesLikeALapyes please quintin but if there are many please paste them to me in a PM or use pastebin04:21
azathothi have closed firefox but still no sound04:21
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mhonnwhat is gaim?04:21
BlueEagleazathoth: Then it would be appear that firefox or flash is still locking it.04:21
FliesLikeALaphttp://gaim.sf.net mhonn04:21
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FliesLikeALapgaim is a cross-protocol chat program04:21
FliesLikeALapcross-platform too04:21
orbinazathoth: seen ubotu's sound factoid yet?04:22
baconbacongaim is installed by default, in "applications -> internet" menu04:22
deltabazathoth: lsof /dev/dsp04:22
azathothorbin, ?04:22
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deltab!sound04:22
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:22
FliesLikeALapah deltab I was trying to get him to do that exact thing earlier but I couldn't remember the device node name ;)04:22
JackMacOKCJohn[1] : you need to install ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop04:22
BoarderXTis there any good pages to see if my laptop's hardware is fully supported?04:23
BoarderXTi'm mostly concenred about sound, network, wifi04:23
FliesLikeALapwhat brand of laptop?04:23
BoarderXThp dv100004:23
azathothi have no multimedia system selector in my prefs... i tried searchign for it in synaptic but came up blank... whats the package name?04:23
BoarderXTyear old04:23
FliesLikeALapBoarderXT a great way to find out would be to test it with a ubuntu livecd04:23
BoarderXTFliesLikeALap thanks, i was curious if the livecd would fully test all my hardware04:23
FliesLikeALapthat's how I checked my laptop before trying linux04:24
BoarderXTcool04:24
FliesLikeALapBoarderXT it should test 90% of it or so, but if something doesn't work that doesn't mean it is impossible to get it working in a normal install04:24
BoarderXTgotcha04:24
FliesLikeALapit can only tell you for sure if something /will/work04:24
BoarderXTdo you find better, worse, or same batt life when going from xp to linux?04:24
quintinFliesLikeALap: Do you see PM?04:24
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mhonnwhy my ubuntu is so slowly?04:24
FliesLikeALapfar better BoarderXT04:24
FliesLikeALapno quintin I do not04:24
FliesLikeALapI get far better BoarderXT *04:24
FliesLikeALapI can't speak for the general case, but it appears that most people get better battery life04:24
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mhonni mean the first time in boot?04:25
BoarderXTFliesLikeALap: excellent, i'm in need of basically a unix box to take with me, i'm a software engineer by nature making the switch from visual studio04:25
FliesLikeALapgood call BoarderXT04:25
BoarderXTbut since i travel a lot, wifi and dvd playback are a must04:25
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FliesLikeALapI started doing all of my coding and schoolwork in linux and I found it to be a ton better and more efficient04:25
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BoarderXTcan you recommend any good visual debuggers? i got very used to VS's04:25
FliesLikeALapsorry, I personally can't04:26
baconbaconVisual debugger on linux ... the only one i know is eclipse's04:26
azathoththanks folks, it appears tribler was stealing it... the lsof did it... much obliged to you all04:26
FliesLikeALapthe flexibility of coding and working in linux, as well as the sustained performance (instead of the random delays when trying to do anything) were huge turn-ons once I got everything working04:26
quintinFliesLikeALap: Did you see private messages?04:26
FliesLikeALapno quintin04:26
FliesLikeALapif I recall, freenode has something where only registered users can send PMs04:27
BoarderXTcool, so do you just make your files and debug that way?04:27
FliesLikeALapthough I may be mistaken04:27
BoarderXTw/ the limited gcc feedback?04:27
FliesLikeALapyeah BoarderXT04:27
BoarderXTword04:27
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BoarderXTso does ubuntu have a dvd player?04:27
FliesLikeALapmultiple ones BoarderXT04:27
BoarderXToh fantastic04:27
FliesLikeALapyou need to get the DVD en/decryption libraries, something which I don't have experience with04:27
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mhonnhow much iptables that ubuntu 5.10 suport?04:27
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BoarderXTwell i appreciate your patience and help04:27
FliesLikeALapeverything mhonn04:28
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Flannel!tell BoarderXT about dvd04:28
goldenflawHello, I was wondering how to add periodic tasks that requires sudo privelege?04:28
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goldenflawis there a way to do that with crontab?04:28
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FliesLikeALapgoldenflaw you can add them to root's crontab04:29
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__mikemhey chiefinnovator04:29
mhonnwhat is root?04:29
goldenflawhow would I access root's crontab?04:29
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goldenflawsu?04:29
FliesLikeALapgoldenflaw if you do sudo crontab -e, they will be executed with root permissions04:29
__mikemyou say you need help with ssh?04:29
goldenflawok04:29
goldenflawthanks04:29
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FliesLikeALapnp04:29
steven__is there an immediate thing I can do to this guy sitting acrossed the coffee shop port scanning me?  I did the route add host thing04:29
FliesLikeALapmhonn root is a user that has all permissions to everything on a unix system04:29
chiefinnovatorhey everyone04:29
chiefinnovatorso here's an ssh question04:29
DaemozTBScipter: :D04:29
__mikemok04:29
FliesLikeALapsteven_ that should block him from entirely accessing your system at all04:29
TBScripterlol04:30
TBScriptersomeone took TBS04:30
FliesLikeALapsteven_ aside from reaching out and smacking him, there is nothing else you can do04:30
steven__I am still getting attackalerts04:30
FliesLikeALapare you sure you did the route command right?04:30
chiefinnovatorSo ssh just stopped working yesterday04:30
FliesLikeALaproute add -host <his IP> reject04:30
chiefinnovatorI can't log into my computer anymore via ssh04:30
FliesLikeALapwhat happens when you try to connect?04:30
DaemozTBScripter: ask your question :P04:30
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DaemozTBScripter: in detail04:30
TBScripterwhat is my question04:30
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__mikemThe daemon is probably not running for some reason, probably the port got blocked off for some reason04:31
DaemozTBScripter: about why you cant format, and the output04:31
mhonnhalo04:31
__mikemId check to make sure the ssh port is open first of all04:31
BrokenPipeIs there a problem with the AMD64 Install CD? It just freezes on my system after it says it's loading the kernel.04:31
chiefinnovator__max_, well it doesn't even work locally so I figure that rules out a port issue?04:31
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TBScripterDaemoz: umm k04:31
FliesLikeALapBrokenPipe are you trying the server, desktop, or alternate install CD?04:31
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mhonnhow much iptables that ubuntu 5.10 suport?04:32
chiefinnovator$ ssh -vvv localhost doesn't work04:32
FliesLikeALapmhonn I already told you that 5.10 works fine with iptables04:32
__mikemchiefinnovator, can you get local root access on the box?04:32
chiefinnovatorhow do I test my port?04:32
BrokenPipeFliestLikeALap: Desktop04:32
TBScripterhow do I format my Hard Drive?04:32
TBScripterusing the ubuntu installer04:32
chiefinnovator__mikem, how do I get local root access?04:32
FliesLikeALapBrokenPipe try the ubuntu-alternate installer04:32
Flannelchiefinnovator: sudo04:32
BrokenPipeFliestLikeALap: That one doesn't work either04:32
chiefinnovatorand then?04:32
FliesLikeALapand if that doesn't work, try the ubuntu server installer and afterwards do "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"04:32
BrokenPipeFliestLikeALap: Linux natasha 2.6.16-suspend2-r4 #2 SMP Wed Apr 26 22:34:50 PDT 2006 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ GNU/Linux04:32
Flannelchiefinnovator: sudo [command]  will perform [command]  as super user04:33
DaemozTbScripter: ask bigger.04:33
IcemanV9xload -remote <host> does not work; what did i do wrong? i would like to monitor another ubuntu box04:33
__mikemchiefinnovator, what I mean is physically loging into the machine instead of using ssh to do a remote log in04:33
chiefinnovatorOk I tried $ sudo ssh -vvv localhost04:33
chiefinnovatorsame error04:33
chiefinnovatorI am physically logged into the machine now04:33
TBScripterwhos bigger04:33
DaemozHow do you format your hard drive with the ubuntu cd??04:33
__mikemOk, so at the physical keyboard and mouse of that machine you have a terminal?04:34
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Flannelchiefinnovator: what error are you getting?04:34
baconbaconDaemoz : to clear your hard drive get my pm04:34
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__mikemFlannel, his problem is ssh stopped working04:34
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Daemozbaconbacon: ??04:34
chiefinnovatorRead from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:34
Flannelchiefinnovator: have you tried restarting your ssh server?04:34
chiefinnovatorRight, my exact message is that:04:34
chiefinnovatorRead from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:34
chiefinnovatorI restarted the computer04:35
chiefinnovatorto no avail04:35
Daemozbaconbacon: how??04:35
baconbaconwait04:35
__mikemchieffinnovator, from the physical machine, can you do a ls /home/ for me and tell me what you see?04:35
chiefinnovatorshould I try restarting ssh server now?04:35
Acidfkwhat is the problem !?04:35
chiefinnovatorchiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ ls /home/04:35
chiefinnovatorchiefinnovator  images  lost+found04:35
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__mikemok, so you still have an account04:36
chiefinnovatoryeah I suppose so04:36
DaemozTBScripter: Go back on MSN04:36
TBScripterkk04:36
__mikemchiefinnovator, yes restart the ssh server and see if that helps04:36
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chiefinnovator__mikem, how do I restart ssh server?04:37
__mikemJust reset the whole box04:37
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart04:37
__mikemor you can do that04:37
chiefinnovatorI'll try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart first04:37
__mikemyes04:38
chiefinnovatorsame ultimate error message04:38
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Acidfksorry  but what is the problem04:38
Acidfk?04:38
FlannelAcidfk: he gets connection timed out when trying to ssh to localhost04:38
orbinAcidfk: what's yours?04:38
__mikemchiefinnovator, don't do it through ssh, type it into the physical machine04:38
chiefinnovatorI am at the physical machine04:38
chiefinnovatorthat's where I did it04:39
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__mikemwell, that shouldn't be happening04:39
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Jjwalkerhi04:39
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__mikemhello04:39
chiefinnovatorI'm confused04:39
Jjwalkerwhat is the sudo command to work with a su prompt?04:39
BrokenPipeHas anyone here installed Ubuntu on x86_64 hardware?04:39
__mikemlets go to plan b and restart the box04:39
chiefinnovatorOk, so I'll be back in a few minutes then04:39
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: whats the error?04:39
__mikemBrokenPipe, I did on top of vmware04:40
FlannelJjwalker: sudo -i or, sudo -s  I don't remember which is which04:40
chiefinnovatorerror says:04:40
Jjwalkerthanks flannel04:40
__mikemJackMacOKC connection reset by peer04:40
chiefinnovatorRead from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:40
steven__is there a way I can manually change my IP address from the command line?04:40
__mikemsteven__ no04:40
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JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: probably a firewall issue, are you running firestarter?04:40
WarboDoes anyone have experience with a BT Voyager 205 router? I am trying to forward ports for Ekiga, but it is still detected as "Symmetric NAT"04:40
nopcodesteven__: ifconfig04:40
steven__ifconfig what?  I am using iwconfig for wireless04:40
chiefinnovatorJackMacOKC, firestarter?04:40
nopcodesteven__: ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 for example04:40
chiefinnovatorJackMacOKC, how do I check?04:40
__mikemfirestarter is a firewall04:41
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: are you running any firewalls of any sort04:41
argumentBrokenPipe, installed it on said hardware? or installed the 64 bit *version*04:41
chiefinnovatorI don't want to run any firewallks04:41
argumentBrokenPipe, there's a difference04:41
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JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: software (firestarter, iptables) or hardware (wireless router)04:41
mhonnhi always fail to activated dhcp04:41
argumentBrokenPipe, i have ubuntu installed on x86_64 hardware but my ubuntu is the 32 bit version04:41
baconbaconok #ubuntu+1 is silent on the matter, can anyone here tell me if latest edgy works at least for them (booting + x + starting gnome OK)04:41
__mikemI have to get some homework done, chiefinnovator, mind If I just leave you with these guys I have to get some reading done for school04:41
chiefinnovatorJackMacOKC, I have a wireless router04:41
Jack_Sparrow!firewall04:41
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)04:41
Daemozhey all, I notticed some websites grab my IP address, and operating system, is there any way to change what they see w.o a proxy??04:41
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BrokenPipeSo, then, wtf does the 64 bit version actually install on??04:41
saikosomeone has ever won a game in Four-in-a-Row ?04:41
chiefinnovator__mikem, sure thanks for the help04:42
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: thats probably your issue, you need to configure port forwarding04:42
__mikemyw04:42
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steven__nopcode: thanks04:42
WarboBrokenPipe: 64bit x86 can run 64bit OS or 32bit OS04:42
Daemozhey all, I notticed some websites grab my IP address, and operating system, is there any way to change what they see w.o a proxy??04:42
argumentDaemoz, IP spoofing can be done but iirc you can't spoof your own IP04:42
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: get the manual for your router and look up how to forward ports. you need to forward port 22 to your computer04:42
Daemozoh04:42
Daemozsorry bout reposting04:42
chiefinnovatorJackMacOKC, no that's the thing, everything worked fine with ssh for about two months until yesterday04:42
Daemozaccident04:42
chiefinnovatorI have port forwarding set up04:42
argumentDaemoz, you can change your user agent response tho04:42
sethroHi guys04:42
Daemozaegument: how?04:43
saikoi'm not quite sure why there is three levels of difficulty when the first one already is unbeatable lol04:43
chiefinnovatorRouter still shows it set up04:43
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: ok, hmmm04:43
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WarboDaemoz: You could always use TOR04:43
argumentDaemoz, i don't know, i've never had a desire or a need to do that04:43
sethroI need some help with GTKPOD04:43
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chiefinnovatorPlus I figure that fact the I get the error when running ssh -vvv localhost04:43
JackMacOKCchiefinnovator: i'd go ahead and reboot everything just to make sure everythings good there. i'll hang out for a bit if you want to pop back in and let me know04:43
sethroI need to know how to take songs out of my iPod and put them on my Hard Drive04:43
chiefinnovatormakes this a "pre firewall" issue so to speak04:43
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Daemozargument: instead of saying Debian i686 on their site, I want ut to say like "blow me"04:43
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chiefinnovatorJackMacOKC, Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes either way04:44
chiefinnovatorthanks04:44
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sethroOh yeah and when I try to add music it tells me that their is an input/output error04:44
baconbaconDaemoz: that's definetly the job of a proxy, distributed like tor, or not, like squid04:44
eauxnguyenI am stuck on no sound on my thinkpad t20. followed the channel links and the ubuntu guide how to with no luck. no sound on streaming audio yet I get sound on video..04:44
sethroCan anyone help me out????04:44
chiefinnovatorBTW how to multiply on the command line?04:44
WarboDaemoz: TOR offers basic anonymity for web browsing and stuff (don't use it for bandwidth bungry stuff though)04:44
Warbo*hungry04:44
DaemozWarbo: free?04:44
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sam__Hey Guys, I was just curious how I could get the 3rd on my mouse to be noticed by linux =D04:44
WarboDaemoz: Yes, but I have heard that the version in Ubuntu is a little old04:45
sethroCOULd anybody help me with GTKPOD04:45
chiefinnovatorchiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ 11.75*304:45
chiefinnovatorbash: 11.75*3: command not found04:45
baconbaconchiefinnovator: echo $(( 2 * 3 ))04:45
As0kaWarbo, what would you use for bandwidth hungry things then?04:45
chiefinnovatorah ok,04:45
ScheissNUssenwhat is the command for the ubuntu version of ctrl+alt+delete?04:45
chiefinnovatorbaconbacon, thanks!04:45
orbineauxnguyen: if system sounds etc are working and it's only streaming audio..it might be an app/codec issue04:45
RopechoborraHow do i close samba ports (for accesing from internet?)04:45
sethroHELP ME??????????????????????????04:45
Ropechoborra!ask04:45
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:45
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Acidfkcrt+alt+del... show u option ! for sleep o shut down the pc04:45
IdleOne!mouse > sam__04:45
root___how to modify fstab so i can access my hd's without root04:45
sethroOH KAY I have a issue with GTKPOD04:45
WarboAs0ka: Freenet can apparently go pretty fast once you have been connected for a while, but it always crawls for me. I never bother downloading stuff off it, I just stick to the message boards04:45
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orbinsethro: geeze, be patient ... in the meantime search the forum04:45
kyjaomg I am having a love afair with amaroK <3 <304:45
JackMacOKCsethro, you ned to excercise patience. screaming is a one way to ticket to be ignored04:46
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sethroI did search teh forums04:46
sethroSORRY04:46
orbinroot___: what filesystem?04:46
chiefinnovatorchiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ echo $((11.75 * 3))04:46
chiefinnovatorbash: 11.75 * 3: syntax error in expression (error token is ".75 * 3")04:46
ScheissNUssenwhat is the command for the ubuntu version of ctrl+alt+delete?04:46
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root___orbin: ntfs04:46
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root___orbin: i just wanna be able to read the contents without having to run as root04:46
JackMacOKCScheissNUssen: sudo reboot04:46
ScheissNUssenno04:46
ScheissNUssennot to reboot04:46
baconbaconchiefinnovator: use "," for decimal04:47
ScheissNUssento close unresponsive programs04:47
xxpor2for what then?\04:47
xxpor2o04:47
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orbinsethro: well the package descrip only says upload  ... perhaps you need to use another app?04:47
xxpor2ps -a04:47
FlannelScheissNUssen: kill04:47
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orbin!ntfs > root04:47
orbin!ntfs > root___04:47
sethroWhat do you recommend04:47
ScheissNUssenI have to type something?04:47
xxpor2erm04:47
stonarmusicanyone know the name of the screensaver that kinda morphs pictures, and shakes them and stuff like that?04:47
cryptic^zazeemggs unfaithful04:47
WarboDaemoz: http://tor.eff.org/ (but I think you will be kicked/banned from this chat room if you try to connect with it, due to spammers)04:47
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ScheissNUssenmy linux just froze and i wouldnt have been able to open the konsole04:47
orbinroot___: ubotu sent you a pm...btw it's a bad idea to run apps as root04:47
JackMacOKCsethro, i've only seen a windows app that allows you to pull the songs off your ipod04:47
As0kaWarbo, im using tor04:48
linuxuserthe xserver update hosed my xserver, why is that update still on the update site?04:48
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root___orbin: yeah i know, it was an accident04:48
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ScheissNUssenis there a way to open up the konsole when a program freezes without using the mouse?04:48
xxpor2zomg 150mb of ram for xgl04:48
sethroOkay when I use GTKPod i get the error input/output04:48
As0kayou have to use a specified address to connect to freenode04:48
xxpor2ahhh04:48
As0kausing TOr04:48
ScheissNUssensomething like the task manager in windows?04:48
WarboAs0ka: Oh, I thought there was an ubotu factoid about it, oh well I stand corrected04:48
JackMacOKCScheissNUssen- ctrl-alt-F1 through F604:48
baconbaconScheissNUssen: alt+f204:48
goatmalecan some one help me install a new hard drive?04:48
baconbaconthen type "konsole"04:48
FlannelScheissNUssen: you'd have to ask in #kubuntu, in gnome you can alt-f2, but ctrl-alt-f# will get you to a tty04:48
WarboScheissNUssen: "gnome-system-monitor"04:48
IdleOnegoatmale, send me the pc and I'll install it :)04:48
linuxuserwhats up with the xserver update? it hosed my system04:49
goatmalehaha you wouldn't want it04:49
Warbooh, KDE :)04:49
sethroWhen ever i try to synce a file i get the error "input/outpur error"04:49
baconbacon!xorgbugfix > linuxuser04:49
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IdleOnegoatmale, unplug the one you got and put in the newer one04:49
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goatmaleI am installing a second omne04:49
sethroDoes anybody here use GTKpod04:49
WarboAs0ka: Are you using TOR from the repos, or did you add an external one? (I haven't used it since Breezy)04:49
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JackMacOKCsethro, what gen ipod do you have04:50
GameOver69has anyone here upgraded to edgy?04:50
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As0kaWarbo: repos04:50
sethroOh I have a 20GB ipod04:50
WarboAs0ka: OK, that is probably the easiest way anyway04:50
JackMacOKCsethro, what generation04:50
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As0kaWarbo, it was easy for me, and I'm a simple guy....so04:51
Warbo:)04:51
sethroIts a 3rd gen i think04:51
IdleOnegoatmale, that shouldnt be to hard to do04:51
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sethroThanks for helping me out JackMacOKC04:52
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JackMacOKCa lot of impatient people tonight04:52
linux__alienwhen i booted Ubuntu today morning it was just waiting in the step Mounting root file system and it didnt proceed at all so i went into the recovery mode and then again rebooted the system and now its working fine but when it boots i get a message saying that "There are differences in the boot sector and its back up " while it scans for the file systems04:52
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linux__alienIs there any problem ? :-(04:53
linux__alieni am worried04:53
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linux__aliencould someone help me please?04:53
bruenigcalm down...04:53
HeathenDanif it's a vfat partition and not your / partition, don't worry04:53
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emigohow do I start sshd, in order to allow connections04:53
Traehttp://occy.net/tmp/screenshots/wtf-nfs.png  <-- Anyone know why NFS is taking so long to mount.... 1min and 45seconds... via using the IP address, note the term in the screenshot.04:54
JackMacOKCemigo: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start04:54
linux__alieni ve 2 hard disks actually but it says that there are differences in the boot sector and its back up which means its root i believe04:54
emigothanks04:54
linux__aliennot sure04:54
Tanker_Looking for some advice on a good IRC app and a general site to search for software for Ubuntu? <sorry noob question I know>04:54
bruenigTanker_, I use GAIM, a lot of people use xchat04:54
JackMacOKCTanker_ irssi04:54
As0kaFreenet is scary04:54
emigoooh command not found04:54
nopcodeTanker_: irssi04:54
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bruenigTanker_, for software, use the ubuntu repositories. You can access those graphically from System>Administration>synaptic package manager04:55
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JackMacOKCemigo: sudo apt-get install ssh-server04:55
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emigoyeah04:55
emigothx04:55
ZambeziIs there an easy way to put up a FTP with SSH? One user/folder is enought. Secure and not access to the rest of the computer (except the uploadfolder).04:55
linux__alienHeathenDan, but when i got into the recovery mode and when i again rebooted into the normal mode it wored so does that mean that the recovery mode has solved the problem?04:55
bruenigI don't know if a terminal based irc client is a great idea for a noob. but maybe I am wrong04:55
riddleboxif I want the setserial command to run, everytime at boot how would I do that?04:55
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JackMacOKCbruenig: sink or swim ;)04:56
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bruenigriddlebox, system>preferences>sessions then go to the startup commands tab04:56
nopcodebruenig: guis make people dumb04:56
rbmanI've got a fully configured ubuntu system on drive (hd0,1)  (with (hd0,0) as swap) and a second drive (hd1) with windows at position (hd1,0) that I want to be able to dual boot to using grub.  Using "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd0,1). My /boot/grub/menu.lst is posted at http://www.phpriot.com/3671  When I use this to boot windows the windows content section of the menu.lst file is displayed and it stops.  Can anyone suggest a04:56
rbmanwork-around? Any help is appreciated!04:56
Tanker_thanks ill give that a try, i loaded xchat from the repo, but its not real pretty :) years ago I used iirc text based but thats a pain :)04:56
Tanker_Thanks for the advice, ill check those out.04:56
bruenignopcode, hey I love the command line. I am just you know trying to help him out04:56
riddleboxbruenig, it is a command that needs to be run as root though, or sudo04:56
orbinTanker_: not pretty?  so customise it :P04:57
nopcodebruenig: if he were to start with a gui he'll prolly never learn... then he could aswell stick to windwos04:57
ZambeziTanker_, Begin with xchat. Don't make it harder when nesaccary in the beging.04:57
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Tanker_little beyond my knowledge04:57
majdhey04:57
JackMacOKChi04:57
majdshould i install the pc or mac version of ubuntu on my intel mac?04:57
bruenignopcode, perhaps. Although a terminal irc client is not really essential. That is like telling him to use lynx04:57
HeathenDanmaybe recovery mode kicked your kernel in the right direction lol. i dunno04:58
saikoFour-in-a-Row - Me: 0, Him: 3904:58
nopcodebruenig: true, knowing how to operato irssi isnt necessary ;)04:58
saikoit isn't happening ..04:58
JackMacOKCbruenig: whats wrong with lynx ;)04:58
linux__alienHeathenDan, but are there any chances of this happening ?04:58
linux__alienI ve the 64 bit version of Ubuntu04:58
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JackMacOKCmajd: good question, i would think the i386...the other version is meant for powerpc chips04:58
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majdright04:59
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linux__alienwhen i give this command for using Firefox 32 bit version i get this error sed 's/\/usr\/lib\//\/usr\/lib32\//g' /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.3205:01
linux__alieni get Permission Denied05:01
orbinTanker_: i meant just changing colours, adding transparency etc. ... how pretty does an IRC client have to be?:-/05:01
HeathenDansorry, i can't help you there. i haven't used 64bit (and i don't have the hardware for it) and i don't use FF05:02
saikoirssi is as pretty as an irc client can get05:02
bruenig64 bit is a beating. Get 32 bit05:02
orbinlinux__alien: use sudo.  that command makes a new file with an alteration05:02
deltablinux__alien: note that you don't have to use / as the delimiter05:02
nopcodebruenig: what you say?05:03
linux__aliendeltab, where ?05:03
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bruenigtoo much work for 64 bit and no pay off05:03
nopcodebruenig: no payoff?05:03
linux__alienbruenig, you using 64 bit ?05:03
deltablinux__alien: s#/usr/lib/#/usr/lib32/#g05:03
bruenigapps don't respond or look any better05:03
nopcodetwice the register-size05:03
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linux__alieni am also using 64 bit . Its good05:03
nopcodeaddressable memory > 4 gig05:03
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linux__alienbut i am worried when i faced an unusual problem when Ubuntu didnt mount my root file system and then got into the recovery mode and then now it boots05:04
nopcodeplus the amd64 has more sse registers :)05:04
bruenigI mean as far as current ubuntu versions are concerned. If you have a 64 chip, might as well use the i386 as 64 bit support is so low05:04
linux__alienIt says "There are differences between the Boot Sector and its back up "05:04
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nopcodebruenig: oh, ok ;)05:04
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bruenignot generally05:04
brueniglol05:04
As0kaWarbo, are you on Freenet?05:04
As0kaWarbo: I'm thinking about getting on. I love the idea, but I have no friends, lol :(05:05
boredelofreenet is too slow05:05
RogerRabbI liked how the 64bit edition detected my dual core cpu straight away and used the smp kernel.. the 32bit version doesn't do that.05:05
linuxuserso if i had been patient and done a apt-get dist-upgrade from command line, xserver would have gotten fixed?05:05
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RogerRabbI found apps faster in 64bit.. just a little bit faster.. but yeah.. I like being able ot just use an os to do powerful things.. not work on making it work.. so switched to 32bit for now05:06
linux__alienorbin, This is what i gave and i get this error05:06
linux__aliensudo sed /usr/lib /usr/lib32 /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.3205:06
linux__alienbash: /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32: Permission denied05:06
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jordanauhow do you view files on a file server?05:07
bruenigedgy is supposed to have true multiarch support so I will try out the 64 bit version there see if I can without chroot run 32 bit apps05:07
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ZambeziIs it Edgy-release in middle of October as planned?05:08
RogerRabbgosh that's a fast release cycle05:08
goatmalecan some one help me with this error? goatmale@goatmale-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/storage05:08
goatmalemount: you must specify the filesystem type05:08
azathoth4 month cycle?05:08
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brueniggoatmale, what is the filesystem type of that drive, ext3, vfat or what05:08
linuxuserdapper was delayed two months05:09
orbinlinux__alien: er, what are you trying to with sed?05:09
goatmaleext305:09
RogerRabbbeing use to ms releasing an os every, oh, 5 years..when you see two ubuntu releases a year05:09
bruenigsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage05:09
linux__alienorbin, i just want to make 32 bit firefox work05:09
goatmalethank you very much.05:09
linux__alieni need the Flash plugins05:09
linux__alienBut that does not work with 64 bit . So i am trying out this05:09
goatmalesudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage05:10
goatmaleopps05:10
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bruenigsomething wrong goatmale?05:10
goatmaleyeah05:10
goatmalecode gave an error..05:10
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bruenigthat error being...05:10
goatmalegoatmale@goatmale-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage05:10
goatmalemount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,05:10
neddiWHello everyone05:10
neddiW I have a problem that I cannot use the Synaptic, im running Ubuntu 6.0605:10
linuxusernext time i get a bad xserver update, and it hoses my system what would be the prefered method of fixing it other than reinstalling ubuntu?05:11
goatmaleread the topic05:11
neddiWSynaptic does not open, is asks the root password and thats it05:11
IdleOnelinuxuser, wait for the bugfix to be released05:11
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bruenigwell that was the right command for ext3 filesystem. Looks like the physical drive has some problems05:11
linuxuserIdleOne: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?05:11
sethkneddiW, if you are running it with sudo, you use your own password, not root password05:12
bruenigor rather there is something that has corrupted it05:12
goatmalei just got it :(05:12
IdleOne!xorgbugfix05:12
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.05:12
goatmaleI partitioned it fine.05:12
orbinlinux__alien: sorry...i'm going to defer to 64bit users05:12
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neddiWsethk, I'm sorry i meant my password ;)05:12
chiefinnovatorOk I did a restart I'm back05:12
linuxuserhow do you fix the xserver from command line?05:12
linux__alienorbin, why this channel does not support 64 bit?05:12
linux__alien:-)05:12
brueniglinux alien, there is a how to on installing the 32 bit firefox, why don't you follow that05:12
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bruenigit is in the forums05:12
bruenigsearch for it. I think it is titled getting firefox with flash and java in 64 bit or something like that05:13
goatmalebruenig I partitioned it a primary partition in the ext3 format.05:13
IdleOne!xorgbugfix > linuxuser05:13
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linuxuserwhat does that mean?05:13
Flannellinuxuser: check your query from ubotu05:13
IdleOnedid you get a msg from ubotu?05:13
bruenigcopy and paste those commands linuxuser05:13
quintinanyone here use ndiswrapper?05:13
goatmaleyes05:13
goatmaleuse ndisgtk05:14
goatmaleit's much easier05:14
brueniggui, wimp05:14
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goatmalei am teh noob.05:14
BlueEagleubotu: tell quintin about anyone05:14
jordanauquintin, yes05:14
chiefinnovatorsame ssh error still after the restart05:14
linuxuserthank you05:14
IdleOneno problem05:14
BlueEaglejordanau and goatmale: I don't think he's doing a survey.05:14
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chiefinnovatorIt did ask me to run fsck when I restarted05:14
goatmalei was telling him to use ndisgtk05:14
bruenig!language05:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:15
chiefinnovatordoes that indicate a problem?05:15
BlueEagle!anyone05:15
jordanauBlueEagle, ...thanks for the info...05:15
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ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:15
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bruenig!info ndisgtk05:15
ubotundisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB05:15
verboseis there a way to uninstall all the X stuff and reinstall the way it was when i first installed? basically i've borked my X and can't get it fixed05:15
Flannelverbose: what's broken?05:15
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BlueEagleubotu: tell verbose about xorgbug05:15
cryptic^zazeemcan i get some help with alsa, just need someone to check somthing05:15
brueniggoatmale, ndisgtk is just a frontend for ndiswrapper. So it is not use ndisgtk instead of ndiswrapper as ndisgtk uses ndiswrapper itself05:15
verboseFlannel: i get EE no device detected05:15
chiefinnovatorbrb05:16
bruenig!ask05:16
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:16
Flannelverbose: right, that's probably related to the bug ubotu sent you info about05:16
quintinndisgtk is the name ??? it's not in synaptic!05:16
BlueEagle!easysource05:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:16
bruenig!it is in universe05:16
jordanauquintin, what is your ndiswrapper question?05:16
verboseFlannel: cool, i'll try that05:16
verbosethanks05:16
quintinjordanau: how do i install ndisgtk05:16
verboseyou too BlueEagle05:16
BlueEagleverbose: np. :)05:16
goatmalequintin update your sources.list05:16
quintingoatmale: how?05:17
bruenigquintin, you need to enable universe, follow this. after you have done this then search again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-a86dddc6826cec4a3847d8441b24051d07b8dc6405:17
jordanau!sources05:17
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:17
cryptic^zazeemcan i get some help with alsa, just need someone to check somthing05:18
bruenig!ask05:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:18
BlueEagleubotu: tell cryptic^zazeem about anyone05:18
cryptic^zazeem>'05:18
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cryptic^zazeemi c05:18
boredelohey guys does anyone ever just ask to ask a question or do i need to wait and find someone to ask my question to?05:18
cryptic^zazeemhow do i make sure im using alsa?05:18
bruenig!ask05:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:19
boredelo:)05:19
IdleOneenough with the !ask05:19
cryptic^zazeemwhat05:19
bruenigit applies constantly05:19
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xxpor2whats the package name of apache105:19
Flannelxxpor2: apache05:19
xxpor2o05:20
xxpor2thx05:20
jordanau!info apache > xxpor205:20
ubotuapache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-2ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 808 kB05:20
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thebishopis there a way to play WMV3 files?05:20
bruenig!restricted05:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:20
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thebishopi have everything from the Restricted media wiki05:20
xxpor2jordanau, i didnt get that mesage05:21
bruenigw32codecs05:21
bruenig?05:21
thebishopyep05:21
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bruenigit can be done, as I do it. But I only followed the restricted formats page myself05:21
thebishopmy w32codecs package is 20060611-1pfl105:22
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covOPprometheussup guys? anyone knows with what tag editor I can edit audio-files, so that the tags are recognized by Rhythmbox?05:23
bruenigactually on this install I used automatix, I forgot that. But before when I just followed the wiki, I believe I was able to do it then too05:23
bruenig!info cowbell05:23
ubotucowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 540 kB05:23
jordanaucovOPprometheus, easytag05:24
covOPprometheusthanks, but can I install it on breeze, I think I tried it once, with no positive result05:24
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bruenigcowbell dominates all except you can'05:24
bruenigcan't really change the name of songs just every other important tag05:24
InnerF|RElol.. why do none of the gtks i download from gnome-look.org ever look like the picture05:24
GlomboolCan anyone help me with an xserver problem?05:24
jordanauGlombool, whats the question05:25
bruenigGlombool, it isn't the update is it?05:25
rpedro_bruenig: have you tried picard ?05:25
GlomboolOh... i see the topic05:25
GlomboolI'll check the bug05:25
Glomboolstuff05:25
ZambeziCan anyone check if my vsftpd configurationfile is secure? http://pastebin.ca/14565805:25
bruenigI have only used cowbell and the command line program called id3 which never really is recognized by rhythmbox05:25
Glombool..yes it is the update05:25
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covOPprometheusyep, same probs here, but I'll try one called easytag, thanks05:26
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rpedro_covOPprometheus: try musicbrainz picard05:26
bruenig!xorgbugfix05:26
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.05:26
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rpedro_covOPprometheus: I'll give you the link in a sec05:26
neddiW I have a problem that I cannot use the Synaptic, im running Ubuntu 6.0605:26
kruncherhello, my updater and synaptic are broken05:26
kruncherhaha we both have the same problem05:26
looktj!logs05:26
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:26
Glomboolthanks ubotu05:26
bruenigubotu is a boot05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
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Glomboolah05:27
Glomboolmakes sense05:27
verboseok, so my xorg-server-core was already up to date(1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4) how can i get rid of all the changed stuff and go back to all defaults?05:27
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rpedro_covOPprometheus: here : http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload , but there should be an ubuntu repo, still searching...05:27
wasedahi all05:27
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withayandaanyone know a bit about evolution?05:27
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bruenigi did an apt-cache search picard and didn't find anything05:27
jnhey big problem here, i just installed updates (xorg was one) and now xwindows is not working05:27
wasedahow can i enable bnep module in Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?05:27
bruenig!xorgbugfix > jn05:28
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ modprobe bnep05:28
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ ifconfig bnep005:28
wasedabnep0: error fetching interface information: Device not found05:28
kruncherI just ran synaptic from the command line and it outputs this: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:28
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bruenigrhythmbox has its own tag editor where you right click on something and hit properties but it is prone to crash05:28
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jordanaukruncher, gksudo synaptic?05:28
bruenigkruncher, synaptic requires root anyways so it wouldn't work05:29
kruncheri tried that05:29
byenhey guys, is there anyway i can control the fan on an IBM thinkpad? the issue is.. the fan does not turn on as often as they should05:29
_azrael__kruncher: sudo apt-get install libvte-common05:29
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ sudo ifconfig bnep0 192.168.2.105:29
wasedaPassword:05:29
wasedaSIOCSIFADDR: No such device05:29
wasedabnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device05:29
wasedanmnguyet@ubuntu:/$05:29
bruenig!repeat05:29
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:29
jordanau!pastebin > waseda05:29
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baconbaconinstall libvte-common maybe, dont know why it wouldnt be installed...05:29
kruncherlibvte-common is already the newest version.05:29
kruncher0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.05:29
_azrael__kruncher: sudo apt-get install libvte405:29
ubuntuhi05:29
withayandai can't seem to get all my email listed in my IMAP inbox on evolution05:29
withayandaany email, that is.05:29
wasedalibvte-common?05:29
baconbaconok apt-get --reinstall install it05:30
wasedai'll try05:30
kruncherReinstallation of libvte4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.05:30
kruncher0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.05:30
kruncherthat happons for both05:30
ubuntuinstall amd 64 bits suport flash player05:30
ubuntu??05:30
_azrael__it cannot be downloaded? that seems odd.05:30
jnty05:31
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ubuntuspeak spanish05:31
Flannel!es05:31
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:31
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bruenig_ ubotu is polylingual05:32
rpedro_covOPprometheus: add this line to your sources.list "deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main", then do 'sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get install picard'05:32
jordanau!info i8kutils05:32
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ubotui8kutils: utilities for Dell Inspiron and Latitude laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.27 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 132 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)05:32
bruenigis picard good rpedro_?05:32
jordanaubyen, ^^05:32
_azrael__kruncher: I'm not sure why it can't download. They download on my system.05:32
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rpedro_bruenig: much better than cowbell I think05:32
bruenigI might try that. Cowbell gets on my nerves sometimes when it yells at me for editing too many songs at once.05:33
katiehow do i fix this? (serpentine:4933): GStreamer-CRITICAL **:05:33
katieTrying to dispose element capsfilter21, but it is not in the NULL state.05:33
byenjordanau, would that work for an IBM and what does it fo?05:33
kruncher_azrael__: synaptic and the updater worked 2 days ago and then all the sudden it stopped working, around the time my sound stopped working (somehow my system had turned down the PCM to 0 all by its self).05:33
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wasedabaconbacon, reinstalled libvte4 but still that error05:33
jordanaubyen, oh i thought you had a dell was't paying attention05:34
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_azrael__kruncher: Did you use automatix or something that messes with sources.list?05:34
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kruncher_azrael__: nope, ive done nothing out of the ordarny05:34
bruenigrepedro, what is the gpg key05:34
byennp jordanau :D05:34
katiek3b works...serpentine doesnt05:34
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WarboAs0ka: You still here? I've been away. About Freenet: I use the older version, before the DarkNet thingy05:35
quintinCan someone please help me locate which files I need to get ndiswrapper going?  I need to find the right inf files05:35
dr_willisi though the fix was to remove and reinstall  libvte4-common (or was it libvte-common)05:35
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Phoenix_Hi all. Came here to fix X and the info is at top of my Chatzilla window. Excellent!05:35
quintinI think maybe the INF I need is in a .exe on the cd.... the others have text that does not seem applicable05:35
_azrael__kruncher: I can help you fix the pcm if you haven't already, but I'm not sure why it can't download the libvte05:35
kruncher_azrael__: the sources.list looks normal05:35
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As0kaWarbo, you do? Some other guy said that Freenet is slow and is only really good for kiddie porn. lol what's your take?05:35
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WarboPhoenix_: I think you're the only person who has read the topic without being told to :)05:35
_azrael__kruncher: Have you run a sudo apt-get update yet?05:35
kruncher_azrael__: I fixed the sound myself, but yeah im still having issues05:36
katiedo ppl answer hardware questions here?05:36
sethkPhoenix_, you get to ask two dumb questions without being insulted05:36
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kruncher_azrael__: yeah i tried that yesterday when the update-notifier showed up and didnt work05:36
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sethkkatie, only if someone asks one05:36
Phoenix_Thanks. I'm downloading the fix now and soon to test.05:36
kruncher_azrael__: apt-get works but not the other 205:36
Phoenix_thanks for the kind welcome guys.05:36
WarboAs0ka: I find it too slow for any file sharing, but I like to hang around in the Usenet-type system. There are some interesting, and often weird, conversations that go on there :)05:36
pharglei say old chap05:36
bruenigrpedro_, what is the gpg key for the picard repo05:36
sethkkatie, what's the question?05:36
katiesethk: can you help me with my serpentine issue?05:37
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covOPprometheushow I open sources.list?05:37
sethkkatie, I didn't see it, just got here05:37
As0kaWarbo: I see, cool cool.05:37
covOPprometheusvim where?05:37
katie(serpentine:4933): GStreamer-CRITICAL **:05:37
katieTrying to dispose element capsfilter21, but it is not in the NULL state.05:37
kwakcovOPprometheus: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:37
WarbocovOPprometheus: Graphical: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" command line: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"05:37
sethkcovOPprometheus, any editor; it is in /etc/apt05:37
kwakoopps i miss that05:37
rpedro_covOPprometheus: to edit your sources list press <alt>+<F2> , then type in 'gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' , and you can type in the 'deb' line I gave you at the bottom , without the quoutes (")05:37
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katiesethk:  i put a bunch of wave files in serpentine and it wont burn on the cd05:38
rpedro_bruenig: dunno, how do I check?05:38
covOPprometheushehehe thanks05:38
kwakanybody knows how to install flashplugin? i tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-non05:38
_azrael__kruncher: The other two don't work because they're dependent on libvte.05:38
kwakbut failed. says, couldn't find05:38
bruenigrpedro_, nevermind, I found the page05:38
katiesethk:  it burns in k3b though05:38
wasedadr_willis, even reinstalled libvte-common, still "bnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device05:38
Warbokwak: 1) You need Multiverse, 2) flashplugin-nonfree05:38
brueniggpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 92132F7B05:38
brueniggpg --export --armor 92132F7B | sudo apt-key add -05:38
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rpedro_bruenig: where is it? can you give the url ?05:38
sethkkatie, that's deep in the guts; it's related to the encoding.  let me see if I can find anything more specific05:38
bruenigmake sure you tell that to whoever else you were helping05:38
bruenighttp://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardLinuxInstall#head-5f60c040c32c67c304b335181b88678ad34149c205:38
kruncher_azrael__: what would cause that file to go missing all the sudden and is there a way to fix it?05:38
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sethkkatie, it's clearly an error in the program.05:39
_azrael__kruncher: 1.) I don't know. 2.) The way to fix it is to apt-get install --reinstall libvte405:39
_azrael__kruncher: unfortunately, you said that failed.05:39
sethkkatie, but I would have to get into the source code to figure out exactly what it means.  Can you just use k3b?05:39
WarboMissing files? Tried lost+found?05:39
donk3yis there a command I can run to see if my install of ubuntu is detecting my firewire port?05:39
Phoenix_X is up & running. This has been the only hiccup in the easiest to use & learn (IMHO) Linuc distro to date.05:40
kruncherhaha great, ubuntus starting to act like windows, wonderful05:40
sethkdonk3y, it should appear in the dmesg output05:40
katiesethk: yes...i just have to instruct my friend how to use it...serpentine was working at one point05:40
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sethkdonk3y, probably lsmod will show a module for it05:40
Acidfkjust go to System Preferences05:40
rpedro_covOPprometheus: after you edit your sources.list, also type in the commands bruenig gave ^^05:40
IcemanV9did someone succeed with rdesktop from ubuntu box to winxp home ed box??05:40
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Acidfkand chek the port firewire05:40
sethkkatie, I'll take a look, but odds are I won't be able to do much05:40
donk3ysethk: what would I be looking for?05:40
bruenigrpedro_, what is the deal, Do i need an account and will it but me for ten dollars everytime?05:40
bruenigbug*05:40
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_azrael__kruncher: Sorry, I don't know why that happened. I've never had any similar issues.05:41
sethkdonk3y, a message that the firewire chip is detected and initialized05:41
sethkdonk3y, you can also look in /sys05:41
katiesethk: there are errors when i run k3b but it seems to work...like it says that i should not be running kernel 2.6.x it should be 2.405:41
baconbacondonkey : search dmesg or lspci for fire05:41
rpedro_bruenig: you can make an account for free, you only donate if you want05:41
donk3yok in lsmod what would be the abreviation for firewire05:41
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sethkkatie, k3b does?05:41
sethkkatie, are you sure?  can you paste the error?05:41
baconbaconhmm no that wouldn't be fireanything05:41
baconbaconsorry05:42
katieyes if i run it in command prompt05:42
rpedro_bruenig: but the nag screen stays unfortunately ;-S05:42
LaneHow bad is it for a sata drive(or an ata drive) to sit on a book(non metallic) surface while it runs05:42
katiesethk:  just a minute05:42
sethkbaconbacon, donk3y I forget the denotation for firewire, it is IEEE something or other05:42
Phoenix_I'll be back to check this channel properly. Toowomba, Australia says bye.05:42
bruenighmmm, well if it is open source perhaps I can make that a thing of the past05:42
sethkkatie, ok05:42
booois raid5 software raid possible with ubuntu i wanna use 4x 250gb on sata for my os...05:42
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baconbacon!raid > booo05:43
rpedro_bruenig: yeah ;) guess so...05:43
booobaconbacon is that a yes?05:43
booobefore i read05:43
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baconbaconi have absolutely no idea05:43
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booook05:43
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byenGuys, my fan does not start unless my lappy goes balzing hot.. how can i fix this?05:44
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rimiliminildont hold it in your lap?05:44
booobios?05:44
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quintinSo... anyone know where to find INF file or driver for this wireless card?05:44
byenbruenig, abt 80C05:44
byenits an IBM thinkpad05:45
quintinIt say it supported with ndiswrapper but I need the right driver05:45
bruenig80C, gees05:45
rimiliminilah the thinkpad05:45
byenbruenig, and that is while browsing05:45
rimiliminilwhere's the thinklinux channel?  i've been looking for it and can't remember what server it used to be on05:45
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bruenigwell don't put it in you lap like rimiliminil said, that can't be good for sperm count05:45
boooanyone here operating on a raid level 5 for their os?05:45
rimiliminili checked thinkwiki too05:46
byenbruenig, oh..05:46
knapperI am having problems running VLC, I get " No suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)"05:46
katiesethk:  now it just says no database...different error than b405:46
sethkkatie, if it's one line, paste the line05:46
bruenigknapper, sudo apt-get install wxvlc05:46
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knapperbruenig, I have done this and it is installed. Still nothing.05:47
katiekio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!05:47
knapperbruenig, getting same error05:47
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rimiliminilwhat's the "wx" about, i've gotta set up a thinkpad to play movies my friend's windows machine doesn't like05:47
katieError: "/tmp/kde-katie" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 1000.05:47
aSt3raLfor some reason i can ping out but firefox wont work05:47
aSt3raLany ideas?05:47
bruenigknapper, sudo apt-get install wx-common?05:47
IcemanV9byen: try to type acpi -t in the terminal -- see if it starts up fan or not05:48
aSt3raLi can ping but no other applications can access the internet05:48
rimiliminiltho it might be more complicated than that coz my windows machine doesn't mind playing these same movies05:48
rimiliminiloh nevermind it's gotta be something else05:48
ZambeziCan anyone see if my configurationfile to vsftp is secure? http://pastebin.ca/14565805:48
rimiliminileverything reminds me of fifty things i still want to fix..05:48
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aSt3raLi can use firefox from windows xp fine but firefox wont load pages when i boot into ubuntu05:48
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IcemanV9byen: also, it'll tell ya the temp of your tp05:49
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PhilDickHow do I edit the right-mouse-button menu (i.e. right click on empty desktop)?05:49
aSt3raLsometimes firefox will load google but thats it05:49
wikijeffWhat plugin/package do I need to install to watch .avi and .mov files in firefox when a webpage embeds them?05:49
byenbyen@xblade:/$  acpi   Battery 1: charged, 99%    Thermal 1: ok, 77.0 degrees C05:49
byenIcemanV9, ^05:49
aSt3raLanyone have a clue?05:49
byendoes not turn on the fan though05:50
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IcemanV9byen: no? dang. i have tp here. it's running cool 40c05:50
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sean_totem play's .AVI and .MOV right05:50
sean_?05:50
sean_if so05:50
sean_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Totem.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox05:50
IcemanV9byen: is something running amok on your tp??05:50
wikijeffsean, thanks05:50
sean_for whoever asked how you can play .mov and .avi in firefox05:50
byenIcemanV9, this is a fresh install05:50
rimiliminilbyan: can yuo change its mind about "ok"?05:51
aSt3raLcan someone help with this networking problem please05:51
sean_ubuntu forums down?05:51
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katiesethk:  is there anyway to play music on my ipod transferring from ubuntu?  i see my ipod disk but i dont know where to put it so that it is visible on the ipod05:51
rimiliminilaSt: i dont know05:51
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PhilDickI can't get ubuntu forums right now...05:51
sean_it's down05:51
PhilDicksean_ ...05:51
sethkkatie, that I don't know.  I would assume you just copy an mp3 file05:51
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PhilDick*nod*05:51
xephertis true05:51
IcemanV9byen: something must be running wild in bg processes. check 'top' in the terminal05:52
katiesethk:  hmm it doesnt show up on the ipod firmware05:52
SivanandaGreetings peeps. Dumb question probably, but how the heck do I highlight *my* posts in IRC when using xchat?05:52
rimiliminilkatie, can you see anything in the ipod in your file browser?05:52
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sethkkatie, sorry, I don't have an ipod so I've never had to figure it out05:52
sethkkatie, send me an ipod and I'll figure it out for you  :)05:52
sean_anybody have an idea on how to uninstall XGL on Dapper?05:52
katierimiliminil:  yes and it plays in ubuntu off the ipod in disk mode05:52
PhilDickI was just playing with my ipod in disk mode... the docs said the music wasn't accessible to the disk mode section.  But I'm completely unclear on the underlying structure.05:52
baconbacon#ubuntu-xgl05:53
dr_willissean_,  heh - reverse the isntall directions?05:53
katierimiliminil:  getting it to play on the ipod mini is the problem05:53
wirelainwhat is the name of the file browser executable?05:53
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rimiliminilohh.....05:53
IcemanV9byen: it happened to me a few times especially wine. i noticed the temp shot up when there are rogue processes running away.05:53
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PhilDickI think the file browser executable is going to be nautilus, wirelain... ?05:54
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booobuntu will NOT do MB RAID. If you set it up on the MB05:54
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rob_paSt3raL, So you can ping domain names, or just IP addresses?05:54
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booois this true?05:54
|thunderrob, both05:54
aSt3raLi can ping domain names05:54
|thunderIP is better because it dosnt have to resolve05:54
wirelainPhilDick: Thanks ...05:54
aSt3raLand the dns resolves to the ip address05:54
coder_Hmmm... why has my terminal's font become ugly?05:54
rimiliminilkatie: i'm nt even sure i'm visualising this right... you're hooked up via usb to the ipod & you want it to play a file on the machine ?05:54
coder_And my mouse ugly?05:54
rimiliminiler the debian machine?05:55
aSt3raLbut for some reason firefox wont load anything05:55
PhilDickAnyone know how to edit the  right-mouse-button menu on the main desktop?  Seems like it should be easy, but I've had no luck...05:55
|thunderkatie, gtkpod is nice05:55
sethkaSt3raL, what happens?05:55
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rob_paSt3raL, Is it configured to use a proxy, perhaps?05:55
rimiliminilaSt: do you have any blockers or messages or anything to troubleshoot from (more info)05:55
baconbaconhmm aSt3raL, check proxy settings in ... bah05:55
aSt3raLno proxy05:55
aSt3raLi did05:55
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aSt3raLno proxy its set on direct connect05:56
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aSt3raLwww.google.com loads05:56
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aSt3raLin firefox and nothing else05:56
dr_willisPhilDick,  ask the #gnome guys. they will proberly say such a feature would be confusing for new users.05:56
covOPprometheuswell, same problem still, I need a manual tag editor for editing audio files (not id3-tags)05:56
rimiliminilaSt: would you want to try any other browsers to troubleshoot?05:56
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aSt3raLall i have is the default install05:56
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aSt3raLthe weird thing is that it was working fine05:56
PhilDickDr Willis thanks.  Yes, my first impressions of "modern" gnome have been pretty low.05:56
knapperbruenig, getting same error :(05:57
aSt3raLits intermittant05:57
rob_paSt3raL, What was the last thing you did, before you noticed that it stopped working?05:57
rimiliminilaSt: before what?05:57
PhilDickhow do you do a tell on IRC?05:57
rimiliminilforward slash nick05:57
aSt3raLi downloaded all the updates05:57
jbroome/say05:57
rimiliminiloh05:57
rimiliminilwhat is a tell?05:57
rimiliminilPhilDick thhsuioehfd05:57
rimiliminilhrm05:57
PhilDickI meant a private message05:57
aSt3raLso i downloaded all the updates for the fresh install of ubuntu on a desktop05:57
PhilDickI think /nick is what I had in mind.05:57
rimiliminilforward slash msg nick05:57
sean_uhh nobody answered me in #ubuntu-xgl05:57
sean_so uhh05:57
aSt3raLim on a laptop in xp now05:58
sean_how do i uninstall XGL05:58
thompadoes someone know of a link to the repository list05:58
rimiliminilyea i forgot to say msg05:58
jbroomeoh.  /msg nick what's happenin'05:58
ZambeziIs there a grafic FTP client which supports Implicit SSL?05:58
knapperI am having problems running VLC, I have installed vlc, wxvlc, vlc plugins and wx-common. When I run vlc I get "No suitable dialogs provider found "05:58
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rob_paSt3raL, Well, if it's truly intermittant, then it's going to be tough to troubleshoot!05:58
Flannelsean_: #ubuntu-xgl05:58
thompa!edgy05:58
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:58
aSt3raLi couldnt figure out what caused the problem so i booted my laptop into ubuntu05:58
aSt3raLand there was the same problem05:58
rimiliminilknapper i'm not sure what the error message means yet, it seems like a subtitles gripe05:58
rimiliminilor interface05:58
thompaso far edgy works best05:58
rimiliminil?05:58
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knapperhere is the full error " skins2 interface error: No suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)"05:59
thompawiat till you try amd6405:59
aSt3raLlaptop was doing the same thing pings fine but no firefox05:59
rob_paSt3raL, Oh.  So this happens under Windows too?05:59
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aSt3raLno winxp has no porblem05:59
aSt3raLfirefox works fine05:59
rimiliminilknapper: i dont have a man handy for vlx what does it say the dialogue provider refers to?05:59
rimiliminilknapper: oh skins05:59
shadowwlfwhere does xchat store logs at?05:59
JbirkI got wine working sort of06:00
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3)06:00
knapperrimiliminil, so install a new skin?06:00
covOPprometheus?06:00
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rimiliminilknapper: it's a gui thing,  this is spankin new territory for me06:00
aSt3raLthis is a hell of a problem06:00
Hexidigitalshadowwlf: ~/.xchat06:00
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Hexidigitalshadowwlf: or ~/.xchat206:00
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shadowwlfHexidigital,  thanks06:00
aSt3raLits probably this pos actiontec dsl modem/ router/ wireless06:00
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Hexidigitalshadowwlf: np06:00
knapperhaha06:00
rob_paSt3raL, Ok, so now I'm confused.  First you said that you couldn't figure out what caused the problem, so then you booted up to Ubuntu... That implies that you were having issues under the other OS too.06:00
aSt3raLno06:01
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aSt3raLi just wanted to see if it was a hardware problem with the desktop machine06:01
rimiliminilso far the result is i've learned pork & converted bookmarks to use in lynx :)06:01
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rob_paSt3raL, ...and you desktop is running Ubuntu?06:01
aSt3raLyeah06:02
rob_paSt3raL, But you don't notice any issues with the other OS, correct?06:02
aSt3raLi just moved the dsl modem to a different phone jack and plugged a usb wireless nic into the desktop box06:02
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rimiliminilknapper: as someone new to the gui i'm guessing, but i'd be wondering why my default vlc install has anything to gripe about w/widget sets06:03
aSt3raLand ubuntu crashes when i try and activate it06:03
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zoidberghey guys06:03
aSt3raLhaha06:03
zoidbergwhat do i need to download using apt-get install to play wmv files in a Firefox06:03
aSt3raLmaybe i should try it tomorrow when i have more patience06:03
zoidberg?06:03
knapperrimiliminil: I got this straight from the repository, with that said, it came with a custom skin, a macish looking skin.06:04
knapperodd06:04
yinepuhotepHave you tried the w32codecs, aSt3raL?06:04
aSt3raLuh yeah..06:04
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zoidbergwhat do i need to download using apt-get install to play wmv files in a Firefox06:04
aSt3raLi dont think that has anything to do with my problem though heh06:04
rob_paSt3raL, Perhaps you shouldn't be introducing new variables... keep the configuration as is until you track down what the problem is.06:04
aSt3raLrob_p: good idea06:04
wirelainso far though, ubuntu has been great, and if it can do the usb scanner, will be outstanding.06:04
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wirelainand the file browser was nautilus ...06:05
rimiliminilkatie: areyou truing to get iTunes-like action w/you ipod or just having trouble copying a file to it?06:05
knapperrimiliminil, I figured it out. Damn repositories.06:05
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zoidberghey guys06:05
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rob_paSt3raL, No.  I don't either but nonetheless...  it's probably easier on your nerves...  :-)06:05
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rimiliminilrepositories?06:05
zoidbergwhat is a media player (and plugin) that i can use to play wmv files in Firefox?06:05
aSt3raLbrb moving the modem back in here06:05
rimiliminilgive me a hint, it'll help when i get there06:05
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rimiliminilasfplayer?06:05
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yinepuhotepSo you're doing better than I am, it sounds like. I can't get my system to install any new packages. At all. Every installation attempt gets me the exact same error. (continues)06:06
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lee__how do i dl torrent files06:06
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rimiliminilwith a bittorrent client06:06
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lee__whwrre can i get that06:06
yinepuhotepdpkg: error processing <package name> (--install): Verification on <package name> failed!06:06
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knapperrimiliminil, I take it back. That didn't work either.06:06
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yinepuhoteplee__, have you tried intalling bittornado?06:07
lee__what didnt work06:07
knapperrimiliminil, can you tell me if VLC comes with a custom skin, the one in the official repository?06:07
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lee__vlc works for ubuntu06:07
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rimiliminili thought vlc handled all it's own stuff pretty much06:08
kruncher_azrael__: i searched my computer for libvte and i found /usr/lib/libvte9 when all i can find on packages.ubuntu.com is /usr/lib/libvte4, why is the number diffrent?06:08
rob_paSt3raL, Some have reported that firefox's IPv6 support causes connectivity issues...  Maybe disabling that will help.06:08
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:08
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aSt3raL_back06:08
rimiliminilknapper: i can only offer my own looking & guessing on that one06:08
yinepuhotepbittornado and azureus are both good bittorrent clients. Azureus requires Java to work, though.06:08
rimiliminilknapper: i'm used to thinking of vlc as nice & self-contained though06:08
aSt3raL_ok i got the desktop machine hooked to the router via ethernet06:08
knapperrimiliminil, I understand06:09
rob_paSt3raL, Some have reported that firefox's IPv6 support causes connectivity issues...  Maybe disabling that will help.06:09
aSt3raL_how do i disable that?06:09
rimiliminilknapper: coolio :)06:09
rob_paSt3raL, Have you tried it yet?06:09
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rob_paSt3raL, Open firefox and in the URL bar, type, "about:config"06:09
rimiliminilaSt: i remember seeing it somewhere in configs, so it's in there.. sorry not more specific06:10
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rob_paSt3raL, ...then, in the filter bar, type, "ipv6"06:10
urmomim running ubuntu on an ibook g4 and it boots linux by default, is there a way to get osx to boot on default?06:10
urmomim using yaboot06:10
aSt3raL_in the firefox prefrences?06:10
rimiliminilyaboot configs?06:10
jordanauurmom, instal grub and change the boot order?06:11
raknamhey do i need to enable some non-listed repositories to install opera through synaptic package manager?06:11
urmomi wold prefer to just keep the way it is06:11
urmombut where is the config located06:11
Flannel!tell raknam about opera06:11
jordanauraknam, have you installed universe and multiverse?06:11
JbirkI want to pimp my gurb config to show a picture of me06:11
Jbirkhow do I do that06:11
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jordanauJbirk, you mean your bootsplash?06:11
rukuarticDoes anyone know if the Ubuntu Server iso contains setup for wireless configurations?06:11
Flannelurmom: you'll have to find people who are familiar with yaboot06:12
rob_paSt3raL, ...then double-click the, "network.dns.disable.IPv6" so that it changes to, "user set, boolean, true"06:12
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:12
rob_paSt3raL, No.  Not in the prefs.06:12
aSt3raL_ok check this out06:12
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knapperrimiliminil, im gonna download vlc and complie from source06:12
rob_paSt3raL, Ok, again,  open firefox and type, "about:config" in the URL and hit enter.06:12
rimiliminiloh hey here's one yall can help me with coz i have to set up another thinkpad... is it better form to use something else to reformat a disk before trying to install ubuntu or should one's ubuntu .iso cd be able to handle this?06:13
aSt3raL_this time: www.google.com loads and news.google.com wont connect06:13
DigitalNinjaare there any disaster recovery tools for ubuntu?06:13
rimiliminilknapper: using .configure?06:13
aSt3raL_it almost seems like its a dns issue06:13
Lard-O-Ladty for the chan topic! (had an issue with X)06:13
bernardoIs 144GB large enough for 2 partitions, one being Ubuntu and another being Windows xp?06:13
rob_paSt3raL, stay with me man...06:13
knapperrimiliminil, ?06:13
rob_paSt3raL, :-)06:13
JbirkYes, I mean my bootsplash06:13
Jbirkhow do I set that?06:13
yinepuhotepDepends on what you're putting in them, bernardo.06:13
bernardoAnyone?06:13
aSt3raL_ok i disabled ipv606:13
bernardooh, not too much06:13
bernardoAt the moment my current Usage is 44gb06:14
rimiliminilknapper: i only recently got into debian, i was always using configure to install before that06:14
rob_paSt3raL, Ok.06:14
aSt3raL_it works now06:14
rob_paSt3raL, Any luck with it?06:14
jordanauJbirk, there are a bunch of howto's on ubuntuforums.org06:14
aSt3raL_that was the problem06:14
aSt3raL_thanks a ton!06:14
rimiliminilwell leaning really heavily on setting up the initial installation with everything too06:14
yinepuhotepIf you don't have a lot of stuff in either, you should be able to cram them in. But beware: file collections expand to fill the space you have, adn then some.06:14
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knapperrimiliminil: Oh yes, using configure.06:14
aSt3raL_well see if it keeps working.. i think it will06:14
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:14
bernardoYinepuhotep, cram them in? :S06:14
bernardoI won06:15
bernardowon't have much space at all?06:15
rimiliminilknapper: okie.. i still remember appreciating configure a bunch :)06:15
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rukuarticDoes anyone know where I can find a package list for the 6.06 server iso?06:15
dibblegowhat can I use to scan wireless networks?06:15
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rob_paSt3raL, fingers are crossed!06:15
aSt3raL_iwlist eth0 scan06:15
dibblegoand specifically what channel they are using06:15
DShepherdrukuartic: packages.ubuntu.com06:15
rukuarticDShepherd: Thanks mate!06:16
urmomi found a page which helps me but thnx guys06:16
yinepuhotepbernardo: yeah, I'm used to running 140GB just for my XP partition, and 200GB for my Linux partition. But I know it's possible to fit stuff on less, because I used to have both divided between a 60GB drive.06:16
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aSt3raL_dibblego: iwlist device scan06:16
dibblegoaSt3raL, thanks06:16
aSt3raL_np06:16
rimiliminilbernardo: i have an url around here somewhere for installing xp and ubuntu on 30gb06:16
Ropechoborra631/tcp ipp CUPS 1.2 <--- What service is that?? Printer?? how do i close that port?06:16
dibblegoaSt3raL, is it normal for it to return immediately with "No scan results"?06:16
yinepuhotepbernardo: just be sure that your /boot partition is the very first one on your drive. If you do that, you can do just about anything with the rest of the drive.06:16
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rukuarticDShepherd: does the server iso have the same packages as the desktop iso?06:16
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bernardorimiliminil, may i have that?06:16
Flannelrukuartic: not all of them, no06:16
rimiliminilshuah, looking for it06:16
bernardoThank you yine06:16
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bernardoI've never done this before, first time working with partitions.06:17
aSt3raL_anyone got a url for a repositry list?06:17
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rimiliminilbarnardo: i'd take advice here first if it conflicts with the article since these folks are actually here :)06:17
jordanaupackages.ubuntu.org06:17
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jordanausorry i think it is .com06:17
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rukuarticFlannel: I'm just wondering if they have the wireless tools... the wrapper program (forgot the name ><) and iwtools06:17
bernardoOk06:17
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Flannelrukuartic: ndiswrapper?  You'd have to check the manifest, which you should be able to view at the same place you download the ISO06:18
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rukuarticFlannel: Thats it :D the manifest contains package information?06:18
yinepuhotepNow for my question: How do you get dpkg to recognize the trusted file? I know that's the problem, because I have to use --force to make it not check keys in order to install ANY files.06:18
zoidberghey can someone help me out with a problem i'm having installing mplayer?06:18
Flannelrukuartic: sort of, but yeah.  Not on the desktop ISO, but for the textmode installers, yes.06:18
Jbirkhow do I set my boot splash?06:19
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yinepuhotepYou should do ok, bernardo.  We've all sweated over the stress of stuff like that when doing new installs.06:19
thompazoidberg: playing or installing06:19
zoidberginstalling06:19
rukuarticFlannel: Ah, so there's no way to know until then eh? :P What exactly does the server do differently besides skipping X and gnome?06:20
zoidbergthis is the message i get06:20
zoidbergzoidberg@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer06:20
zoidbergReading package lists... Done06:20
zoidbergBuilding dependency tree... Done06:20
zoidbergPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:20
zoidbergThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:20
zoidbergis only available from another source06:20
thompawell i just did it, you need to follow the restricted page06:20
zoidbergE: Package mplayer has no installation candidate06:20
Lard-O-LadJbirk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_display_Splash_Image_for_GRUB_menu_on_boot-up06:20
thompa!dvd06:20
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:20
Flannelrukuartic: Well, you can know for the server and alternate, not the desktop ISO though, since it's not formatted the same way.06:20
bernardoThanks for all your help.06:20
Flannelzoidberg: don't paste here06:20
zoidbergsorry06:20
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rimiliminilbernardo: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html06:20
zoidbergthompa, can you help me out06:21
DShepherd!info mplayer06:21
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB06:21
thompahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats06:21
Flannelzoidberg: mplayer is in multiverse, you'll need to enable it06:21
rimiliminilber: it's not exactly what you're doing, hopefully it helps06:21
thompadid you do that first?06:21
zoidbergwhere in sources.list?06:21
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Flannelzoidberg: it's not in there, you need to type it yourself06:21
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zoidbergwhat do i need to type and where?06:22
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knapperWhat other programs out there will play a cue/bin besides vlan?06:22
thompazoidberg: need to enable reposiyoties in synaptic06:22
DShepherdzoidberg: running gnome?06:22
PhilDickHow do I check if I have a certain package installed?  I'm used to using rpm...06:22
rimiliminilaww damn it impatient queries tick me off...06:22
flipfone?? how do i load/start mdnsd daemon06:22
zoidbergno fluxbox06:22
thompa*repositories .. too dark in here06:22
dr_willisPhilDick,  fire up synaptic and search :P06:22
zoidbergi've downloaded stuff from universal repositories already though06:22
zoidberglike vlc06:22
Krankily!info beagle06:22
ubotubeagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB06:22
zoidbergand scummvm06:23
DShepherdzoidberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html06:23
zoidbergwhy isnt this working06:23
Flannelzoidberg: add "multiverse" after the "universe" in your sources.list06:23
thompazoidberg: did you search and find mplayer first06:23
zoidberghow do i search for mplayer?06:23
KrankilyHow can I tell if Beagle is working?06:23
Flannelzoidberg: you need to enable the repository first06:23
DShepherdzoidberg: link above ^^^^06:23
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thompazoidberg: open synaptic, click search06:23
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covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:24
DShepherd thompa mplayer is in multiverse.. he just has universe06:24
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DShepherdzoidberg: the link that I sent you shows you how to add multiverse.. check it out06:24
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KrankilyAnd for that matter how do I know Wine is working?06:25
diggeranyone know when nfs mount specified in the fstab are mounted during boot?06:25
FlannelKrankily: because you can run windows programs in it ;)06:25
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dr_willisKrankily,  download some little windows program. and wine whatever.exe06:25
thompa.. its just settings: repositories from the menu, just click everything06:25
KrankilyAh.. need to test it out06:25
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Flannelthompa: no, multiverse needs to be typed in06:26
DShepherdKrankily: winamp.. or google talk is a good try06:26
PhilDickOK, so I run synaptic, search for nautilus-actions, and it shows up in the left column...06:26
BSG75anyone know how I can customize the look of ubuntu? ie: more themes etc?06:26
PhilDick1) Does that mean it's installed?06:26
KrankilyKnow anything about beagle?06:26
RopechoborraQuestion: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP <-- Isnt this for closing icmp ?? (for rejecting pings) ???06:26
zoidbergthompa, i think i have to type in the multiverse lines06:26
zoidbergdoes anyone know what the lines are....for powerpc breezy?06:26
DShepherdFlannel: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html <-- he can here. zoidberg go there..06:26
PhilDick2) Is there a way to get a list of installed packages from the commandline?06:26
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Flannelzoidberg: ADD multiverse after each universe, read links.  Plenty of people have told you.06:27
diggerphildisk: dplk -l06:27
diggerdpkg -l06:27
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PhilDickmuchos gracias!06:27
diggernp06:27
dr_willisNachos Grande!06:27
diggerYo quiro....06:27
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DigitalNinjaanyone using superkaramba?06:28
dr_willis'nessicato el bano' (thats about all i rember from spanish 101)06:28
PhilDickSo if I have this right, I can't edit the right-mouse-button menu on my gnome desktop without installing nautilus-actions06:28
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rob_pRopechoborra, There's more to icmp than just echo-request/echo-reply (pings).  You probably don't want to block all incoming icmp traffic...06:28
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DShepherdDigitalNinja: you on kubuntu?06:28
Ropechoborradr_willis thats nothing in spanish =/06:28
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covOPprometheusdr_willis that is kinda everything but spanish06:28
yinepuhotepPhilDick: Are you just looking to edit the wallpaper? Or more general than that?06:28
DigitalNinjaDShepherd: No. I'm not even using kde. I'm a gnome user06:28
Ropechoborrarob_p i typed that command.. but didnt do anything06:29
dr_williscovOPprometheus,  my class was 20 yrs ago. :P06:29
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covOPprometheushehe np06:29
dr_williscovOPprometheus,  'Un churro por favore' :)06:29
dugrycehello i have a networking question06:29
Ropechoborradr_willis lol... i got it... necesito ir al bao may be :P ;)06:29
diggerI need to know something about the boot sequence - any experts here?06:29
yinepuhotepOh. Nevermind. I missed the full statement.06:29
covOPprometheusdr_willis, por favor, favore is italian06:29
PhilDickyinepuhotep no, I want to edit the menu that comes up when you click the right mouse button on the desktop... I want to add other apps to that menu.06:29
thompazoidberg: are you wanting to watch a dvd06:29
DShepherdDigitalNinja: i think superkaramba is a kde app06:29
DigitalNinjaDShepherd: I would like to configure the theems but that option is disabled.06:29
dugrycei am using a wireless router and the  connection won't take06:29
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DShepherdDigitalNinja: you can try asking the guys in #kubuntu. I bet someone there might be using it.06:30
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zoidbergalright guys06:30
dr_williscovOPprometheus,  its all greek to me. :)06:30
zoidbergits downloading06:30
zoidbergthanx06:30
DigitalNinjaDShepherd: I'll head over there06:30
thompazoidberg: you have to follow that stuff on the restricted page all the way through06:30
zoidbergwhat is the name for the mozilla plugin for mplayer?06:30
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:30
DShepherdzoidberg: help.ubuntu.com is your friend06:30
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zoidbergi got it thompa06:30
dugrycei have a wireles card in my system and i have configured it perfectly but when i open a browser it keeps telling me not found06:30
zoidbergits downloading now06:30
zoidbergnow what is the name of  the firefox plugin for mplaer?06:30
DShepherdzoidberg: use synaptic and search for it06:31
thompazoidberg: vlc always works and i use xine06:31
zoidbergwhats the name of the pacakger....i tried the vlc plugin for firefox....it wasnt working06:31
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knapperWhat other programs out there will play a cue/bin besides vlan?06:31
dr_willisdugryce,  well  if you can ping the gateway, but not www.google.com  ( then ya got a DNS server setting/issue)06:31
zoidbergbut i know that mplayer plugin works....at least it has for me in the past06:31
jpjacobszoidberg, try mozilla-mplayer ;)06:31
thompamplayer was buggy some time  ago06:32
dugrycei have configured the wireless router correctly06:32
zoidbergokay thanx06:32
dr_willisdugryce,  if you can ping googles ip. but not www.google.com - then ya got a  dns issue.06:32
dr_willisdugryce,  if you cant even ping the  router.. you got a wireless/network issue.06:32
dugrycehow do I fix it06:32
diggerneed to know the real issure first06:32
dugryceboth computers aare running Ubuntu06:32
diggerwhat can you ping?06:32
dugrycewith a belkin router and network card06:32
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dr_willisdigger,  the logic of that statement is eluding him. :P06:33
digger?06:33
Lard-O-Lad!botsnack06:33
ubotuYum!06:33
diggererr06:33
ivxhas anyone tried a wiresless keyboard/mouse with ubuntu?06:33
dugrycelet me go to try to ping no I tried to ping but it doesnt06:33
thompamplayer doesnt work again here anyway06:33
neddiWHi, does anyone know how to get Synaptic running? I does not want to open...06:33
dugryceyeah wireless keyboards work06:33
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:33
yinepuhotepWhat error do you get, neddiW?06:33
jpjacobsivx, got a wireless logitech stuff, works out of the box06:34
dugrycewhat should i try to ping06:34
dr_williscovOPprometheus,  what tags are even under there?06:34
dugrycewww.google .com06:34
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PhilDickneddiW I just opened a window and typed "synaptic"... this isn't working?06:34
PhilDickwindow=terminal06:34
dr_willisand then googles ip address.06:34
dugrycenot form network tools06:34
neddiWI cannot open Synaptic06:34
dugrycefrom06:34
ivxjpjacobs, thanks, i was shopping around and thats all they seem to sell these days. i personally don't see the point06:34
yinepuhotepneddiW, what happens when you try to open Synaptic?06:34
neddiWit asks for password and it does not open06:34
morfeeushi!06:34
dugryceok brb06:35
yinepuhotepneddiW, ok, so you need to type in your administrative password.06:35
morfeeusi want to download the ubunutu06:35
thompain mplayer you seem to have to right click,06:35
urmomi need help06:35
urmomim new to ubuntu06:35
thompa!mplayer06:35
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer06:35
urmomi am used to fedora06:35
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.06:35
morfeeuscan anyone help me?06:35
Flannelmorfeeus: http://ubuntu.com/download06:35
yinepuhotepurmom: What kind of help do you need?06:35
morfeeusthanx06:35
rob_pRopechoborra,  You only want to block incoming echo-requests?  If so, try, "sudo iptables -A INPUT -i <ethernet_interface> -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DROP"06:35
neddiWyinepuhotep, I put the password and nothing06:35
urmomdoes ubuntu deafault to a root password cause i never put one in in the instalation06:35
dugryceit says, "www.google.com can't be found"06:36
red|rainurmom, use your user password06:36
thompai did that , failed to open06:36
dugrycebut everythin is set right06:36
dr_willis!sudo06:36
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:36
urmomit failes06:36
dugryceshould the host name on both computers be the same?06:36
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Ropechoborrarob_p thats just for the ping?06:36
cl187heh06:36
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PhilDickurmom, As I understand it there is no root password.  Try sudo bash, and when it asks for a password, give it your user password06:36
yinepuhotepneddiW, my suggestion is to go to the user editor (System=>Users and Groups) and give root a real password. Then when Synaptic asks for a password, give it the root password you just gave to root.06:36
cl187i gots a idea06:36
dugryceit acts as if there is no connections06:36
rob_pRopechoborra, Yes.  That will essentially make your, "un-pingable."06:37
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dugrycebut it say the wireless connection is active06:37
rob_pRopechoborra, *you*06:37
levanderWhat's supposed to be the best bittorrent client right now? Linux or Windows?06:37
dugrycethe WEP is correct06:37
dugryceeverything06:37
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Lard-O-Ladwhat is a good cross platform, extenable text editor (that isnt vim or emacs)?06:37
thompaactually have never seen mplayer work once06:37
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yinepuhoteplevander, if you like Java, Azureus works really good. If you don't want to download anything, bittornado is on the Ubundo CD.06:37
dugryceanyone/06:37
dugryce?06:37
yinepuhoteperrr.. Ubuntu cd.06:37
neddiWyinepuhotep, I will do just that, i will give you an update....06:38
ivxjpjacobs, did you ever hear of dynex06:38
neddiWthanks06:38
Ropechoborrarob_p ethernet interface its eth0 eth1 like that?06:38
covOPprometheus!ID306:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ID3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:38
yinepuhotepdugryce, I have wireless problems like you're describing, and it's usually because the router isn't giving the card a good signal.06:38
rob_pRopechoborra, Yes.06:38
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covOPprometheusanyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?06:38
dugryceit's as if the network card can't pick up the router or something06:38
jpjacobsivx, no what's that?06:38
yinepuhotepUnfortunately, the only solution I've found to the wireless problem is to reboot the router.06:38
urmomis there a way to reset my root password without reinstalling?06:38
thompadugryce: did you reboot  after you set it06:38
dugryceyes06:38
dibblegowhen I attempt to mount -t smbfs why does the mount point has permissions of ?---------  ? ?       ?          ?                ?06:38
yinepuhotepurmom: Yes06:38
urmom?06:38
rob_pRopechoborra, Replace, "<ethernet_interface>" with, "eth0" or, "eth1", etc.06:39
yinepuhotepurmom: From your desktop....06:39
dugrycein networking does the host name have anythin to do with anything?06:39
ivxjpjacobs, a brand that makes wireless stuff. i was going to ask if you knew if they worked. they are cheaper than logitec06:39
urmomwhere?06:39
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urmomwhich menu06:39
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yinepuhotepurmom: System=>Administration=>Users and Groups06:39
dugrycein network settings on both computers06:39
diggerReset password?  boot a live CD, mount fs with /etc - and edit the shadow file06:39
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dugrycein the general tab06:39
yinepuhotepurmom: Once you have that opened, tell it do display all users.06:39
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dugrycedo the host names have to match06:39
dibblegodugryce, yes it has something to do with anything at the very least06:39
jpjacobsivx, nevr heard of it...06:39
morfeeusby by!06:40
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ivxjpjacobs, thanks anyway06:40
dugryceevery time i change it the computer has to be rebooted06:40
jpjacobsnp06:40
yinepuhotepurmom: Then click on root and edit it. Give root a new password and click on "OK" until you're out of the program.06:40
thompadugryce: or do networkconfig06:40
dugrycehow do I do that06:40
dugryceor where06:41
dugryce?06:41
KtronIs there anything else I can try besides X -configure to find a working config for my monitors?06:41
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urmomthanks its just different in fedora06:41
diggerurmom - you could also rud [ sudo passwd root ] 06:41
thompadugryce: im in edgy, some things arent right06:41
dugryceif the sugnal is weak that may have something to do with it?06:41
yinepuhotepdugryce: What kind of wireless card do you have? Mine is an RT61 and I don't dare use the Network tool, because if I do, it trashes my wireless.06:41
dugrycebelkin06:42
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diggerso does anyone know when nfs mounts specified in the fstab are mounted during boot?06:42
quintinHow do I get my wifi adapter to figure out it is not in ad-hoc mode????  it keep saying ad-hoc mod and it's not!!!06:42
yinepuhotepBelkin is the company that sells it, but do you know what driver it uses?06:42
thompadugryce: rest the router maybe06:42
dugrycei have one computer that dual boots between xppro and ubuntu06:42
yinepuhotepMine, for instance, is a Linksys, but the driver is RT61.06:43
DigitalNinjaI am a gnome user and I was spending most of the day trying to get superkaramba working06:43
dugrycethe ubuntu OS saw the wireless router and asked me to configure it06:43
dugryceso i did06:43
dugryceeverything is set right06:43
dugrycejust no signal06:43
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thompadugryce: dhcp06:43
dugryceor connection06:43
DigitalNinjaI forgot about gdesklets06:43
dugryceyup06:43
DigitalNinjait's the gnome version of superkaramba06:44
dugryceshould it be set as dhcp06:44
thompawho is your isp06:44
dugryceor static IP on the recieving computer06:44
dugryceCox06:44
thompacomcast06:44
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thompadhcp06:44
KtronIf 'sudo Xorg -configure' fails to generate a Xorg config file that works at all, are there any other utilities I can try to find a config that works?06:44
dugryceshould I make sure the host names match in network setting06:45
yinepuhotepKtron: If you use ATI drivers, there's always aticonfig.06:45
dugrycebetween both computers06:45
dr_willisdugryce,  each pc has its own hostname06:45
raknamhey i'm trying to install opera using synaptic package manager, i've enabled multiverse and universe, but i can't find it, is there anything else i'm supposed to do?06:45
dugryceok so that soesn't matter06:46
dugrycewhy is this not working06:46
yinepuhotepraknam: You have to add opera to your sources.list06:46
dr_willisdugryce,  dont matter at all.06:46
urmomi am trying to make mac osx the default on my ibook g4 during boot using yaboot06:46
thompawhat the modem go to06:46
urmomhttp://www.askdavetaylor.com/tweak_yaboot_so_mac_os_x_is_my_default_os_not_ubuntu_or_yellow_dog_linux.html06:46
dugryceis it as simple as signall strenthg06:46
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Ktronyinepuhotep, I'm just trying to get Xorg to run on the livecd... I have a radeon x800gt though, so aticonfig should be useful06:46
thompacable modem goes to...06:46
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dr_willisdugryce,  because wireless can be a big PAIN.  if you cant even ping the router.. id guess the card/drivers are not set up right.06:46
urmomi edited the config but in the next step the directory does not exist06:46
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KtronI'll try aticonfig06:46
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ubuntui installed vista over dapper....how do i reinstall the grub boot loader06:46