[12:01] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[12:01] <Warbo> crunch: X is the graphics server. By "bare X" I meant getting the graphics server up without any kind of interface, desktop or anything. Just X. If you can get that going at all then there may be hope
[12:01] <crunch> do you think damn small linux would work instead?
[12:01] <sethk> crunch, it is already working.
[12:01] <jvai> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[12:01] <livingdaylight> nekostar: did i understand you right?
[12:01] <Warbo> crunch: DSL just uses Fluxbox, which Ubuntu can use as well
[12:01] <sethk> crunch, damn small linux will give you the same capabilities you already have
[12:02] <Warbo> sethk: Actually, less :)
[12:02] <Thunderpants> well said sethk
[12:02] <Bassetts> i need help asap, i just started my pc and it says x is not working and gdm cant be starter
[12:02] <crunch> damnit
[12:02] <lamego> Bassetts, read the topic
[12:02] <chalcedny> i'll try again... my HP all-in-one printer is printing every other line or so with the Linux drivers.. <sigh>
[12:02] <crunch> so what do i do
[12:02] <Bassetts> lamego: cant see it in irssi
[12:02] <Thunderpants> give it to charity crunch
[12:03] <mwe> Bassetts: type /topic
[12:03] <Warbo> I felt quite offended by DSL including Firefox. Not only does it seem to go against the idea of eliminating bloat (they already have DillO), but it doesn't work when I try it :)
[12:03] <avu> bassetts: /topic
[12:03] <lamego> Bassetts, type /topic
[12:03] <Bassetts> thanks
[12:03] <avu> :)
[12:03] <crunch> haha no way
[12:03] <crunch> they wouldn't want it
[12:03] <jvai> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[12:03] <Thunderpants> what use is it
[12:03] <Flannel> janbanan: yeah, that'sa good idea.
[12:03] <Bassetts> lamego: how do i restart my pc from the terminal?
[12:03] <lamego> Bassetts, you dont need to restart your prc
[12:03] <jbroome> !xorgbug
[12:03] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[12:04] <lamego> Bassetts, have you applied the fix ?
[12:04] <crunch> so what is my best option if i want a gui interface os then
[12:04] <chalcedny> Warbo, the Mozilla people have their support on some small and distant irc net.
[12:04] <Warbo> LiveCD takes more resources than installed, would crunch be better off installing from a different PC then swapping the drive back?
[12:04] <crunch> windows 95 or summint
[12:04] <Bassetts> lamego:no, i dont know how to read the webpage from terminal
[12:04] <lupine> lynx. or links.
[12:04] <Bassetts> i have i686
[12:04] <chalcedny> crunch, download the live cd of ubuntu ;)
[12:04] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:04] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:04] <jvai> will dapper run fastr w/ fluxbox?
[12:04] <eternalswd> I'm having a problem in xampp.  Does anyone know of a good channel or resource for getting help, the xampp irc channel is basically empty.
[12:04] <crunch> i have the live one
[12:04] <Bassetts> lupine: how do i change to a second terminal??
[12:05] <Warbo> I prefer lynx from terminal, as links doesn't let me access SSL (which help.ubuntu.com uses)
[12:05] <jaysef> please does anyone use tor ?
[12:05] <graveson> what can i use to convert and mp4 file to avi
[12:05] <chalcedny> crunch, what's it doing with that ?
[12:05] <VictorI_> which is the newest ubuntu release?
[12:05] <VictorI_> dapper?
[12:05] <jbroome> y
[12:05] <Flannel> VictorI_: right
[12:05] <Warbo> !release
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[12:05] <eternalswd> graveson, for what purpose do you need to do so?
[12:06] <hangfire> victor- edgy is the beta release
[12:06] <chalcedny> graveson, you could look at Audacity maybe
[12:06] <VictorI_> which kernel does dapper ship with
[12:06] <graveson> i have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?
[12:06] <Warbo> Remeber: "beta" is NOT pronounced "better" :)
[12:06] <VictorI_> i am currently having issues with the debian-installer on a rackpoint eepro100 nic card, going to give ubuntu a try
[12:06] <crunch> im running my live 5.04 now and ill get back to you when it loads up
[12:06] <VictorI_> rack mount*
[12:06] <graveson> eternalswd: i have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?
[12:07] <avu> victori_: 2.6.15
[12:07] <jvai> lol @ warbo
[12:07] <eternalswd> graveson, your best bet would be mencoder ( it comes with mplayer )
[12:07] <verus_> hi all. i updated my ubuntu today and it only downloaded and installed one package (something with Xserver) now my X does not start up correctly and the error log is not usefull at all. anybody an idea, what could have gone wrong?
[12:07] <Bassetts> how can i open a second terminal window??
[12:07] <agt> What do I do if my xserver-xorg candidate shows 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 instead of what ubotu says?
[12:07] <lamego> verus_, /topic
[12:07] <chalcedny> verus_, type /topic
[12:07] <avu> verus_: check out the topic :)
[12:07] <verus_> and of course how i could step back and redo the update of that package ...
[12:07] <VictorI_> in your opinion should I go with edgy or dapper?
[12:07] <eternalswd> graveson, just make sure you get all of the codecs
[12:08] <Warbo> graveson: Mencoder gives the most power. VLC can stream into a file, which might be good for those who do not have 5 years to search through mencoder's man page
[12:08] <VictorI_> how close is edgy to release?
[12:08] <avu> agt: it's xserver-xorg-core
[12:08] <Flannel> VictorI_: not very
[12:08] <verus_> thanks
[12:08] <eternalswd> VictorI_, stick with dapper
[12:08] <VictorI_> thanks
[12:08] <agt> avu: Ah, more sense now... ;)
[12:08] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[12:09] <graveson> eternalswd: it can play on my ubuntu box,i am copying it to dvd - playing it on my dvd recorder is where i am haiving issues
[12:09] <MintyXP> Warbo both 32 and 64 'see' the hda5 sawp, many many thanks
[12:09] <newbuntie> what happened with the xorg update?
[12:09] <peanut7836> when trying to install any package iget the following error: FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[12:09] <Bassetts> what version should i see for the xserver fix?
[12:09] <eternalswd> graveson, mencoder will convert it to whatever format you want using whatever codecs you want
[12:09] <newbuntie> not sure if I can trust updates now...it was a major waste of time
[12:09] <avu> bassetts: ..ubuntu10.4
[12:09] <Warbo> MintyXP: No problem (except you seem to have turned to the dark side...)
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgfix
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <avu> bassetts: (ubuntu10.3 was the evil one :))
[12:10] <chalcedny> JupiterDuo why are you dcc sending that?
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgbuffix
[12:10] <Bassetts> avu: how do i open another terminal so i dont have to exit irssi?
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbuffix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[12:10] <nalioth> chalcedny: they've already been k-lined
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:10] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:10] <MintyXP> warbo this my game computer
[12:10] <avu> bassetts: you can open another tab with ctrl+shift+t
[12:10] <Bassetts> avu: doesnt work
[12:10] <chalcedny> nalioth, yup nice :)
[12:11] <avu> bassetts: oh, you're not taling about gnome-terminal, sorry
[12:11] <MintyXP> linux is great but not for real games
[12:11] <eternalswd> graveson, you should even be able to change directly to dvd format from mp4
[12:11] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[12:11] <mike930> is there a way to convert mpeg to mp4 and wmv to mp4
[12:11] <Warbo> MintyXP: I used to dual boot XP and Fedora 3. That was until XP got BSOD when trying to do anything 3D, so I decided to go into Linux at the deep end :)
[12:11] <avu> bassetts: you can switch with ctrl+alt+f(1-6)
[12:11] <chalcedny> MintyXP, tell that to my son...
[12:11] <cica> hi guys
[12:11] <BAsche> hello there
[12:11] <eternalswd> mike930, mencoder
[12:11] <Warbo> Mind you, my brother has so many consoles that I don't need Windows at all
[12:11] <chalcedny> Jupiter Duo is back/
[12:12] <cica> not a technical question all but does anyone know how Xubuntu is pronounced?
[12:12] <mike930> thanks
[12:12] <Warbo> cica: I think "zooboontoo"
[12:12] <crunch> god, the live cd is still loading up
[12:12] <jvai> x(Z)ubuntu
[12:12] <MintyXP> I really love linux or at leasdt since dapper has come out but for heavy games I still need my XP (which isnt to bad really)
[12:12] <kallei> where is the gnome panel settings stored?
[12:12] <MintyXP> BUT i prefer linux
[12:12] <BAsche> after disabling virtual resolution in xorg.conf kdm keeps that resolution. both xorg.conf and kdm.config are clean.
[12:13] <cica> what about kubuntu?
[12:13] <Warbo> kallei: ~/.gnome2 somewhere (maybe try gconf-editor)
[12:13] <jvai> k(ool)ubuntu.. lol
[12:13] <peanutb> when trying to installany package i get this message: FATAL -> Failed to fork
[12:13] <cica> would it be koo-bun-too?
[12:14] <Volvo> hi
[12:14] <eternalswd> kallei: i think it's in ~/.gnome2/apps/panel
[12:14] <mooseman447> hey
[12:14] <Volvo> how to configure my screen resolution, i think its locked
[12:14] <mooseman447> what happened to xserveer?
[12:14] <Warbo> mooseman447: /topic
[12:14] <MintyXP> remind me please the commande line to gedit my grub file
[12:14] <avu> mintyxp: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:14] <Flannel> MintyXP: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:15] <Volvo> i cannot change my screen resolution, its locked at 640x480 60 hz
[12:15] <BAsche> Volvo: login as root and edit you xorg.conf for example using pico
[12:15] <Bassetts> my candidate version is right, just restart now?
[12:15] <StephenL> Is there not a gui interface to control your sreen resolution/monitors, etc?  I see the Screen Resulotion setting, but is there something more advanced for configuring dual monitors, etc?
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: after upgrading, yes
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu??
[12:15] <Flannel> !tell Volvo about fixres
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu: sudo apt-get update??
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: (not the candidate but the installed version has to be right)
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu: ahh
[12:15] <Warbo> StephenL: The screen resolution tool is really pathetic. The only way to get stuff done seems to be through the terminal :(
[12:16] <BAsche> anybody into kdm?
[12:16] <StephenL> Warbo:  That's what I thought.  I was just hoping I was overlooking something.
[12:16] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:16] <Volvo> thanks basche
[12:16] <avu> basche: #kubuntu might be of more help there
[12:17] <Bassetts> avu: how can i restart from terminal?
[12:17] <sk1dge> can any1 help me get my computer to make sounds? :)
[12:17] <crunch> OK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem
[12:17] <kallei> my swiftfox wount open http addresses in emails etc, i have swiftfox %s in my preferred applications. How do i fix it?
[12:17] <avu> bassetts: sudo reboot
[12:18] <Andy_Alpha> skldge System>Preferences>Sound  ... check the bottom
[12:18] <eternalswd> kallei, does any browser open or does it do nothing?
[12:18] <kallei> the browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url
[12:19] <Bassetts> avu, thanks
[12:19] <avu> bassetts: you're most welcome
[12:19] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:20] <kallei> eternalswd: the browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url
[12:20] <crunch> where do i find the graphical requirements for ubuntu 5.05
[12:20] <sk1dge> andy_alpha: ive got two options there, "intel ich5" (onboard?) and "dell sound blaster live".. selecting either doesnt help.. i may have written unclearly,, no program of any kind is producing sound
[12:20] <crunch> 5.04*
[12:20] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: uuhh... a video output and a monitor
[12:21] <Kyral_Laptop> (hell you don't need those....but I don't think you are running a server)
[12:21] <haasteem> !java
[12:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:21] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: You are asking what kinda of Video card you need correct?
[12:21] <crunch> yeah i have a pci graphics card and a 800 x 600 monitor
[12:22] <crunch> yes Kyral
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: like I said, you need a video output and a monitor :P
[12:22] <manopulus> hello, looking for jedit for ubunutu, it is not in apt-get list... is any repository available?
[12:22] <Shawn2> is there a good howto out there for using and openmosix cluster with ubuntu machines?  i'm having trouble finding a decent on.
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: any kind. If it works it will suffice
[12:22] <secleinteer> hey is the xorg update still bad? or can i upgrade?
[12:22] <Bassetts> anyone know if its possible to start xchat and gaim minimized
[12:22] <mooseman447> warbo thanks that worked
[12:22] <jvai> i had hoary on a thinkpad 600x, i made sure to max out the ram, like 598, including the weak video card
[12:22] <crunch> well then why is it saying x server / graphical interface is a no go
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: dunno
[12:22] <trevor64> okay am back on the 64 version :)
[12:23] <peanutb> what does "FATAL -> Failed to fork" mean
[12:23] <Andy_Alpha> skldge hmm... don't know than. You should probably get familiar with ALSA
[12:23] <engla> manopulus: sounds likely, but you know there are many other alternatives I gues
[12:23] <Kyral_Laptop> peanutb: Well, I have NFI seeing as I don't know anything about the problem to begin with
[12:23] <lgespee> I've got a question about Evolution in Ubuntu related the filters not working correctly
[12:23] <Kyral_Laptop> (NFI == No F***ing Idea)
[12:23] <crunch> ok i think i am going to go with windows 95/98 then
[12:23] <sk1dge> andy_alpha: ive poked around in alsamixer, unmuted everything, as well as throughout the volume controls..
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: um,mm let us help? :P
[12:24] <lgespee> it's somewhat related to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/49364
[12:24] <lgespee> to which I already responded
[12:24] <peanutb> kyral_Laptop: when i apt-get install anything it gives that error and exits
[12:24] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:24] <bruenig> manopulus, why not install it from the source package
[12:24] <Bassetts> generally where is the best place to install programs?
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> peanutb: are you as root?
[12:24] <engla> manopulus: this site knows how to install jedit http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: use Synaptic or Apt-Get
[12:24] <er4z0r> hi fiolks
[12:24] <Andy_Alpha> skldge Sory I really don't know.
[12:24] <crunch> i wish you could help
[12:24] <lamego> Bassetts, synaptic
[12:24] <sk1dge> k
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: you haven't let us lol
[12:25] <peanutb> Kyral_Laptop: yes
[12:25] <sk1dge> ty nway
[12:25] <Bassetts> Kyral_Laptop, lamego: if its from source?
[12:25] <er4z0r> I'd like to check out  vim 7.0. Anyone using it?
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: maybe like the error msg?
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: Apt (and Synaptic) doesn't touch /usr/local or /opt
[12:25] <crunch> Kyral - scroll up
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: run ./configure with --PREFIX=/usr/local (or /opt)
[12:25] <Bassetts> ok
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: humor me
[12:26] <crunch>  OK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem
[12:26] <Bassetts> anyone know how i can get xchat and gaim to load on startup minimized??
[12:26] <Kyral_Laptop> okay now view the output :P
[12:26] <crunch> ok
[12:26] <eternalswd> kallei, are you using thunderbird?
[12:26] <kallei> yes
[12:26] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: I don't know how
[12:27] <eternalswd> okay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=3
[12:27] <crunch> ok not much of what the output makes sense, but it says fatal server error no screen found
[12:27] <bruenig> Bassets, minimizing gaim is not possible in the way you want to do it. As that is not an option for gaim on the command line. Not sure of xchat
[12:27] <eternalswd> kallei, okay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=3
[12:27] <Bassetts> bruenig, thanks
[12:27] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: drop to the command prompt, login as root, and run xorgconfig
[12:28] <magus_x> man
[12:28] <magus_x> i need help!!!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <SirKillalot> hm my amarok wont put its icon to the tray anymore...
[12:28] <SirKillalot> this sucks
[12:28] <dadadu59> hi
[12:28] <magus_x> my system is so slow, fors ome things
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> Dinner TIME!
[12:28] <jvai> i got haory on this thinkpad t40, but i got 1g of ram here
[12:28] <jvai> fluxbox is broken in hoary.. :(
[12:28] <magus_x> like, show up the Logout screen
[12:28] <dadadu59> nobody french here ?
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> !fr
[12:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:28] <HaroldJohnson> rellim: Are you here, by any chance?
[12:28] <magus_x> open system things
[12:28] <magus_x> like network
[12:28] <frank_b> is there any way I can get my windows keys to function in linux?
[12:28] <magus_x> those things, and i need them urgent
[12:28] <Alex> Yes
[12:28] <magus_x> i got no idea
[12:28] <MintyXP> nite aall, many thanks to all for the help, :)
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: you mean the Windows Logo keys?
[12:28] <dadadu59> ok thanks ;)
[12:28] <Alex> frank_b: google 'windows key gnome' - pretty much solves it
[12:28] <frank_b> Kyral_Laptop, yes
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: those are "free" keys in Linux
[12:28] <secleinteer> does any1 know if the xorg update problem has been fixed?
[12:29] <dave> hi
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: feel free to bind them anyway you want
[12:29] <frank_b> Alex, thanks
[12:29] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone able to install the new image (6.06.1) on an OldWorld Mac?
[12:29] <magus_x> anyone expert can help me?
[12:29] <bruenig> has anyone tried the gaim nautilus integration plugin? Is it any good?
[12:29] <crunch> Kyral: its asking me for a protocol number
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> (I use them as another Modifier Key)
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: read all the text
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: I really have to eat dinner, sorry
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> (Last dinner at home before going to college again)
[12:29] <frank_b> Kyral_Laptop, ok. I'll follow Alex's advice an google it
[12:29] <dave> can anyone please help me? i updated X and it is now broken. thus i cant read the topic ;)
[12:29] <Alex> frank_b: I did it the other day :)
[12:30] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > dave
[12:30] <Alex> frank_b: It's something to do with defining windows keys as 'super', or something
[12:30] <jldugger> dave: try /topic
[12:30] <frank_b> Alex, :) ok, thanks
[12:30] <crunch> ok man
[12:30] <magus_x> i got an error like
[12:30] <crunch> you'll be back after?
[12:30] <dave> jldugger: thx :))
[12:30] <B_H> hi
[12:30] <magus_x> server curps cannot get started, something like that
[12:30] <jldugger> basically, apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade again
[12:30] <bruenig> does the xorg update mess all machines up or just some
[12:31] <quintin> I cannot seem to get wireless working, have a PRISM2 card, and it shows up on system tray at top
[12:31] <youngcoder> how do i access the bios before grub loads?
[12:31] <jldugger> bruenig: apparently all machines that arent owned by ubuntu developers ;)
[12:31] <bruenig> lol
[12:31] <pushpop11> Is there an ubuntu gaming channel?
[12:31] <bruenig> I guess I will just leave it alone for awhile and then update when I know all is clear
[12:31] <KenSentMe> youngcoder: that depends on your hardware, usually by pressing del or f2, but check the manual of your motherboard
[12:31] <hawkaloogie> youngcoder, that has everything to do with your bios and nothing to do with grub. try making sure you're monitor is on before you power up
[12:31] <quintin> How do I create /dev/wlan0 ?  it doesn't seem to exist
[12:32] <frank_b> thank you Alex and Kyral_Laptop . bye.
[12:32] <jldugger> donk3y, you'd probably be lucky to find a linux gaming channel :(
[12:32] <quintin> Ok, I can see networks in the ESSID dropdown list
[12:32] <scarfboy> what is the significance of stub packages in edgy, like python-mysqldb-1.2.1-p2?
[12:32] <sophtpaw> nekostar, sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core didn't work, Said it couldn't find package
[12:32] <quintin> but I can't get on them
[12:32] <dave> thx alot guys
[12:32] <donk3y> jldugger: ya haha was just curious
[12:33] <jldugger> donk3y, there is 3
[12:33] <scarfboy> I'd rather like to use that version of the package, but it only contains some docs right now.
[12:33] <jldugger> donk3y, there is #icculus.org
[12:33] <sophtpaw> sudo apt-get update didn't work
[12:34] <donk3y> jldugger: ahh cool thanks
[12:34] <kallei> eternalswd: did not work
[12:34] <_tcc> Does Dapper use Madwifi-ng or the older madwifi?
[12:35] <sophtpaw> I stil don't have X
[12:35] <_tcc> Wireless is a real piece of cr@p.
[12:35] <gbauman> Hey guys - I am noticing a lot of packages that are NOT obsolete appearing in Synaptic as obsolete. They are packages from main, and I have all repositories enabled
[12:35] <sophtpaw> using kanotix live cd
[12:35] <gbauman> why would that be happening?
[12:35] <sophtpaw> freaked out and removed X and xorg.conf
[12:35] <eternalswd> kallei, did you make sure to change /usr/bin/firefox to the path for swiftfox?
[12:35] <kallei> eternalswd: yes
[12:35] <sophtpaw> tried sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core but that didn't work
[12:36] <sophtpaw> anyone know if that command is right?
[12:36] <eternalswd> kallei, did you restart thunderbird?
[12:36] <sophtpaw> nalioth, can you help me?
[12:36] <kallei> eternalswd: yes
[12:37] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix > sophtpaw
[12:37] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp3
[12:37] <cwells> how can i get ubuntu to boot to a different runlevel?  i've got something that's hanging the system at the default runlevel (I'm guessing X related) so I'd like to drop into a system maintenance mode
[12:37] <nalioth> sophtpaw: with what?
[12:37] <cwells> from grub that is
[12:37] <kallei> eternalswd: swiftfox still opens, but the default homepage
[12:37] <lix> Hi. I've got roubles using my "Omnikey Cardman 4040" pcmcia Card. I think the problem ist somewhere in pcsclite or udev. Can somebody help?
[12:38] <BDerwent> hello, for some reason when I installed the latest upgrade I no longer can start the XServer or something, and the screen that tells me this is garbled
[12:39] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://192.168.1.102/mp3
[12:39] <sophtpaw> nalioth: my X is broken. i was badly advised due to not knowing that ubuntu had problems globally with x, and removed X and xorg.conf
[12:40] <eternalswd> kallei, was thunderbird closed when you editted the .js file?
[12:40] <mih> BDerwent:  If X is broken after a recent update please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[12:40] <sophtpaw> nalioth: i asked whether the command nekostar gave me: apt-get install x-window-server-core is right. coz it didn't work
[12:40] <sophtpaw> lamego; sudo apt-get update didn't work
[12:40] <wolfmanz> Why is it i have to redo the the mount on my ntfs driver every time i boot?
[12:40] <goatmale> can some one help I put in a new hard  drive and ubuntu isn't noticing it.
[12:41] <kallei> eternalswd:  aah now it works, thanks!
[12:41] <holy_cow> wolfmanz, is it an entry in your fstab?
[12:41] <eternalswd> kallei, no problem
[12:41] <wolfmanz> holy_cow:  no i dont think so
[12:41] <mb_> HELP
[12:41] <mb_> i grabbed the x update this morning and it blew out video on a thinkpad t40
[12:42] <mb_> any help on this would be SOOOOOO appreciated
[12:42] <holy_cow> goatmale, even from the system -> administration -> disk utility?
[12:42] <Warbo> mb_: Look at the channel topic...
[12:42] <sophtpaw> what the hell did ubuntu do with X?
[12:42] <hawkaloogie> mb_, update your repositories and try again.
[12:42] <msoul> mb_: wget ://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[12:42] <holy_cow> wolfmanz, try that then. /etc/fstab is where its at
[12:42] <mb_> hawkaloogie: i hate to sound dumb, but how does one do this?
[12:42] <goatmale> let me try mr cow
[12:42] <nalioth> sophtpaw: did you get a private message from ubotu ?
[12:42] <holy_cow> and then it should mount at boot
[12:43] <mb_> ah
[12:43] <BDerwent> alright, thanks guys
[12:43] <hawkaloogie> mb_, sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <holy_cow> dang, i'm watching silent hill
[12:43] <goatmale> good movie mr cow.
[12:43] <nalioth> !tell sophtpaw about xorgbugfix
[12:43] <nalioth> goatmale: holy_cow: #ubuntu-offtopic for movie reviews, please
[12:44] <goatmale> hey mr cow.  It shows up on the disk utilities
[12:44] <sophtpaw> nalioth, yea got that but i was in ubuntu 10 mins ago and didn't let me update, something aoubt temporary something with archives
[12:44] <Warbo> I've been asking for help with XTeddy for ages. It doesn't work for me in E16 or Fluxbox, in Xorg or AIGLX, from binary or source. Can somebody please tell me if it works or doesn't for them??!
[12:44] <holy_cow> Check out the device name it says and mount that
[12:44] <sophtpaw> nalioth: besides i don't have X at all, Removed X and xorg.conf files
[12:44] <holy_cow> Sorry nalioth
[12:44] <goatmale> do I have to do that every time?
[12:45] <holy_cow> nope
[12:45] <holy_cow> Just add it to your /etc/fstab
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: like i said nekostar gave me a command which didn't work. Said packages couldn't be found
[12:45] <nalioth> sophtpaw: all you need is a console.  have you 'sudo apt-get update' lately?
[12:45] <holy_cow> if its NTFS makesure you make one of the options "ro"
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: the command was: install x-window-server-core
[12:45] <goatmale> it's blank
[12:45] <nalioth> sophtpaw: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: like i said about 10 mins ago
[12:45] <rmd> i want to disable gdm at boottime, but not erase it from my system.  how can i do that?
[12:45] <Warbo> NTFS implies ro anyway doesn't it?
[12:45] <holy_cow> other than that, if its formatted in ext3 you can almost copy the line that mounts your root share
[12:46] <WD_Raptor> DIsco STu needs a staffer ooo
[12:46] <Warbo> rmd: Look at "man update-rc.d" and use it to stop GDM launching in runlevel 2
[12:46] <WD_Raptor> Anyone here a staffer
[12:46] <magus_x> i need help, but i got strange problems
[12:46] <rmd> Warbo: thanks
[12:46] <magus_x> system things like network, printers
[12:46] <magus_x> are taking years to start
[12:47] <magus_x> and printer dont start, cups problem
[12:47] <WD_Raptor> Need stafer please
[12:47] <julien_c> X crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?
[12:47] <magus_x> really strange
[12:47] <WD_Raptor> Staffer, please PM me!
[12:48] <goatmale> hey mr cow I did  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:48] <goatmale> it's a blank 80 gb western digital
[12:48] <LostFrog> Whoever wrote the Ubuntu installer, I thank you one million times.
[12:49] <ugarit> how does one change the default os to boot into?  I'm using grub.
[12:49] <LostFrog> ugarit: /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:49] <julien_c> X crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?
[12:49] <engla> julien_c: yes, many sadly
[12:49] <LostFrog> julien_c: /topic
[12:50] <engla> julien_c: if you can, just update to even newer version
[12:50] <julien_c> oh
[12:50] <scarfboy> huh... debian has MySQLdb-1.2.1_p2 in unstable. But edgy seems to have a sub package. Not sure about the differences involved there - can anyone enlighten me whether I can expect 1.2.1_p2 in edgy?
[12:50] <julien_c> sorry lol I did not read the topic
[12:50] <julien_c> thanks
[12:50] <Zambezi> How can I formate hdb1? "sudo mkfs -t ext3 -m 0 -r 0", but how should I format hdb1?
[12:50] <mcphail> Which mirrors have the newer xorg package? How long does it take to roll out to all mirrors?
[12:50] <ugarit> LostFrog:  Are the os's listed in the order which they would appear in the grub boot up sequence?
[12:51] <LostFrog> 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1'
[12:51] <scarfboy> or another mkfs as you wish
[12:51] <LostFrog> ugarit: no.. there is a default tag.. and it's numbered from 0.
[12:51] <goatmale> where is fstab?
[12:51] <Kyral_Laptop> in /etc/
[12:51] <goatmale> thanks
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> (/etc in general is the location of system wide configuration files)
[12:52] <goatmale> leet, thanks
[12:52] <scarfboy> is ubuntu aware of dependencies in packages installed with dpkg -i?
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> ...please don't use that term
[12:52] <mcphail> scarfboy: yes
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> scarfboy: you have to manually resolve deps when installing with dpkg
[12:52] <scarfboy> As in, will it update it with newer versions from that actual tree
[12:52] <scarfboy> I know that
[12:53] <LostFrog> scarfboy: yes.. all packages are installed using dpkg.
[12:53] <scarfboy> I just want to tell the sysadmin here something simple
[12:53] <magus_x> hey, i got some strange problems, i need someone experient to help me
[12:53] <scarfboy> preferably not involving compiling things from source or that this will break the next update
[12:53] <LostFrog> scarfboy: to upgrade a package, you need to use dpkg -U
[12:53] <scarfboy> that's lovely, but not the point.
[12:54] <rummik> magus_x: maybe you should ask the question, instead of asking for experienced help
[12:54] <magus_x> its an strange problem
[12:54] <scarfboy> I assume apt has a list of things it has installed, to update. If I dpkg -i something into ubuntu from debian, will it get updated?
[12:54] <magus_x> well
[12:54] <LostFrog> yes..
[12:54] <scarfboy> Alright, thanks:)
[12:55] <lamego> scarfboy, if the dependencies are ok, yet it will
[12:55] <magus_x> my system programs like: network, printers and services ( i dont know if other system tools are ) , are acting really strange
[12:55] <LostFrog> If there is a update available via apt, of course.
[12:55] <magus_x> they are taking 3 minuts to open, and printers "cuds" is problematic because it dont opens anymore
[12:55] <scarfboy> sounds semsible. But what does that depend on? Package name, or some specific metadata?
[12:55] <LostFrog> scarfboy: apt using dpkg to install packages.
[12:55] <magus_x> all this happened after an energy fault
[12:55] <magus_x> any idea? :(
[12:55] <wolfmanz> Does dapper drake come with alsa or is that a seperate thing that has to be installed?
[12:56] <scarfboy> I know the package name is the same, so that would be neat
[12:56] <LostFrog> s/using/uses
[12:56] <mb_> thanks for the fix, guys.
[12:56] <mb_> worked like a champ.
[12:56] <Mr_Awesome> hi, today i booted linux and got the error "no screens found" from X; yesterday it was working but i also installed a recent update to the x server (or something similar).  does anyone know what could be wrong?
[12:56] <goatmale> wolf try alsamixer
[12:56] <mb_> now fire the guy whgo messed that up!!! :P
[12:57] <goatmale> mr awesome read the topic
[12:57] <Mr_Awesome> aha, thanks
[12:57] <goatmale> no problem.
[12:57] <Mr_Awesome> heh, i never read those darned topics
[12:57] <scarfboy> But the whole point is I want it to not disturb automatic upgrades at all.
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: look at the top of the screen
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: see the bar at the top? :P
[12:58] <scarfboy> not stay behind as if it were 'make install'ed around a package manager, and be upgraded as it if were the python-mysqldb package in ubuntu
[12:58] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: i had that problem last night :P
[12:58] <scarfboy> (which is outdated right now)
[12:58] <mcphail> Kyral_Laptop: yes, i know. but most topics are > 80 chars
[12:58] <wolfmanz> goatmale: i get the mixer but i dont see a option to sellect Alsa in the teamspeak settings only OSS
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: I ignore the topic generally
[12:58] <goatmale> huh
[12:58] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[12:58] <Mr_Awesome> is there anyway to view a web page from the command line?
[12:58] <lamego> ?? xorgbufix
[12:58] <LostFrog> mcphail: /topic #ubuntu
[12:59] <lamego> ?? xorgbugfix
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> or irc, or msn/aim
[12:59] <LostFrog> Mr_Awesome: lynx or links
[12:59] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:59] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Mr_Awesome: install Lynx or Links
[12:59] <mcphail> Kyral_Laptop: the /topic used to be updated here quite often and was worth checking, but it has been a bit stagnant lately
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> ok, cause i could really use that at times
[12:59] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, centericq for MSN & aim
[12:59] <scarfboy> so, LostFrog, I guess my quiestion is whether it will act as the package tree or not?
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> oh ok, thanks
[12:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Mr_Awesome: I tend to keep CLI versions of everything in case of emergency
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> Kyral_Laptop: yeah thats a good idea
[12:59] <LostFrog> scarfboy: it will act no differently than if it was installed using apt.
[12:59] <Thaur> Kyral_Laptop, same :P
[01:00] <mcphail> lamego: I apt-get updated 10 minutes ago and it was still broken from the dutch repos
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> though <3 Vim :P
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> *DUCK!*
[01:00] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, you shoulden't ever rely on GUI
[01:00] <sharperguy> Kyral_Laptop, i better "sudo apt-get install irssi" then!
[01:00] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: you can downgrade with apt-get
[01:00] <Mr_Awesome> Thaur: im a windows guy at heart though ;)
[01:00] <mb_> btw, as words of strength and encouragement, ubuntu is hands down, the best distro i've used in 8 years.
[01:00] <LostFrog> especially Motherboard manufacturers.
[01:00] <mb_> nice work, guys.
[01:00] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, Ouch. I'd used windows for a long time before linux, but I Was a linux guy at heart
[01:00] <_tcc> Where is the .config for the default kernel?
[01:00] <sharperguy> oh lol i already have it
[01:00] <lamego> mcphail, mine is ok, tks :)
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> LostFrog: Actually I was reading the new CSS specs, you can use MEDIA to specify a StyleSheet for Terminals now
[01:01] <scarfboy> It would never be installed via apt, it's not strictly a ubuntu package, it's a debian package. Hence my question about whether there is a possible difference.
[01:01] <LostFrog> _tcc: /boot/config-dsakfjhasdfkjhdsfa
[01:01] <Mr_Awesome> Thaur: im hoping ill get converted eventually
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> _tcc: try zcat /proc/config.gz
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> (If it exists)
[01:01] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper'
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> I dunno if Ubuntu has that option enabled
[01:01] <Zambezi> LostFrog, scarfboy: I managed to format it, but the problem now is I can't mount it.
[01:01] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, Good man :P. If it dosen't feel right right now, it tends to grow on you
[01:01] <marshall_> does anybudy here have windows live mail?
[01:01] <_tcc> config-2.6.15-26-386
[01:01] <_tcc> I think
[01:01] <_tcc>  /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386
[01:01] <goatmale> where are hard drives usally mounted in ubuntu
[01:02] <LostFrog> Zambezi: mount /dev/hdb1 <mountpoint>
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: depends on what type
[01:02] <rmd> Warbo: how do i know what item it is in the init script so i can stop it?
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: IDE drives are usually /dev/hd{a,b,c}
[01:02] <Mr_Awesome> rummik: thanks ill give that a shot
[01:02] <marshall_> is anybody having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?
[01:02] <goatmale> yeah i have one in /dev/hdb
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: SATA and SCSI are /dev/sd{a,b,c}
[01:02] <goatmale> but how do I mount it?
[01:02] <LostFrog> Kyral_Laptop: those are the devices, not mount points.
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> LostFrog: I know
[01:02] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: that's what i was told to do last night, it worked perfectly
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: aren't you already running the system?
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: or did you add a new HD?
[01:03] <goatmale> ?
[01:03] <goatmale> I just added a new one
[01:03] <goatmale> trying to set it up
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: well to find out about current mounted systems, just run "mount"
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> !fstab
[01:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:03] <Zambezi> LostFrog, Thanks. It worked now.
[01:04] <survivor> hey.
[01:04] <LostFrog> Zambezi: read the above for automount at bootup.
[01:04] <marshall_> whats the best linux video editor
[01:04] <survivor> i want to repartition my hard drive and have found gparted.
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: basically you gotta make a directory where you want it to appear in the filesystem, put the info in /etc/fstab, and mount it
[01:04] <survivor> can i run this from inside an ubuntu live session?
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: in a word, its your choice :P
[01:04] <jordanau> marshall_, check virtualdub
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> survivor: yes
[01:04] <survivor> sounds great :)
[01:04] <survivor> *looks for livecd*
[01:04] <Zambezi> LostFrog, But now it's another problem. ;-/ I need to change the rights cause the application I try to use, can't save to the harddrive.
[01:04] <marshall_> is anybody else having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?
[01:05] <goatmale> kyral can I pm you my fstab info?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Windows Live Mail....is that a joke?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: read the stuff in !fstab
[01:05] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: its kinda self-explainitory
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Yea for commented out config files!
[01:05] <nekostarz> hey
[01:05] <nekostarz> y cant i open .deb files with fileroller anymroe
[01:05] <nekostarz> more**
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> ..why would you
[01:06] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:06] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, b/c i wanna?
[01:06] <Kyral_Laptop> nekostarz: good reason!
[01:06] <nekostarz> or mebbie i wanna extract a file or two from it o.O
[01:06] <Kyral_Laptop> and I dunno :P
[01:08] <nekostarz> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 84.7% free]  disk[Total : 368.66GB, 41.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ] 
[01:08] <nekostarz> ah ha
[01:08] <jvai> lol... that's what linux is for.. the curoius
[01:08] <jvai> sumtymes
[01:08] <nekostarz> installed xchat-xsys
[01:08] <lmosher> hey all. i'm getting this error: /dev/dsp: Input/output error why trying to play enemy-territory. Any ideas? (I also don't get any sound) :)
[01:08] <nekostarz> and copied the .so over so i can load manually [from ~/.xchat2/
[01:08] <nekostarz> b/c i dont wanna run the 2.6.x xchat i like the 2.4.x
[01:08] <blend> hi every1 , where can i get some really basic newbie help for mounting an ntfs partition... ive tried many guides over the net without succeeding
[01:09] <mcphail> Is there a way to downgrade a package via apt/aptituse/synaptic which doesn't rely on you knowing the prvious version number?
[01:09] <blend> any help would be appreciate it thanks
[01:09] <mcphail> *aptitude
[01:09] <Waffler> Hello.  I'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.
[01:10] <nekostarz> mcphail, try the same method as the xorg thing
[01:10] <nekostarz> !xorgbugfix
[01:10] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[01:10] <nekostarz> just do the apt-cache policy for that package
[01:10] <nekostarz> or if its a single package browse with firefox or equivelant through the repos to the package u want
[01:10] <nekostarz> :)
[01:10] <nekostarz> dl and install
[01:10] <nekostarz> etc
[01:11] <mcphail> nekostarz: the apt-cache policy thing doesn't tell you the _previous_ version number
[01:11] <blend> nekostarz, hi can u pls tell me where can i get newbie support for basic stuff like mounting ntfs partitions and general guidelines?
[01:11] <nekostarz> !ntfs
[01:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:12] <nekostarz> mcphail, then download it manually
[01:12] <blend> gr8 thanks
[01:12] <nekostarz> what package btw?
[01:12] <nekostarz> np blend
[01:12] <nekostarz> btw blend be careful with fuse // write support to ntfs
[01:12] <nekostarz> its still a bit buggy
[01:12] <nekostarz> ~_^
[01:12] <blend> ok mate thanks again :)
[01:12] <xxpor2> Pizza, what do u mean by buggy :P
[01:12] <Pizza> np
[01:13] <Pizza> xxpor, meaning u lose data a percentage of the time
[01:13] <mcphail> nekostarz: nothing in particular. But i have now had to downgrade 2 packages this week due to borked ubuntu repos. I'm getting bored trawling repos. A simple "apt-get downgrade" would be nice
[01:13] <Pizza> personally my windows  partition is fat32 because there is good suport for that.
[01:13] <Pizza> mcphail, agreed
[01:13] <bkudria> scanModem says my winmodem is supported, but I can't get it to work...can anyone help?
[01:13] <Pizza> also a way to show all avaliable package versions for a package
[01:14] <mcphail> Pizza: yes
[01:14] <goatmale> why doesn't su work for me?
[01:14] <Waffler> I'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.  Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[01:14] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: read !root
[01:14] <blend> guys is there a specific channel for newbies? or its the same on this 1?
[01:14] <goatmale> waffler try ndisgtk
[01:14] <Kyral_Laptop> blend: its this one
[01:15] <goatmale> it's a nice program and it makes things really easy
[01:15] <goatmale> !root
[01:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:15] <blend> cool, at least a good start lol
[01:15] <Kyral_Laptop> Heheh newbies, I remember having to compile NDiswrapper from source on Slackware 10.1
[01:15] <nekostarz> btw to be root for a bit
[01:15] <nekostarz> sudo su -
[01:15] <nekostarz> :)
[01:15] <Waffler> where can I find more information about ndisgtk?
[01:15] <Kyral_Laptop> (no offense to the word newbie)
[01:15] <nekostarz> lol Kyral_Laptop
[01:15] <nekostarz> i remember when i installed debian the first time
[01:15] <blend> none taken whatso ever im just gladd im off anything called winzows :D
[01:15] <nekostarz> i hated it ~_~
[01:16] <Kyral_Laptop> Slackware mmmm
[01:16] <Kyral_Laptop> prolly why I run Arch now
[01:16] <holy_cow> Yeah. I'm pleasantly suprised at the functionality I'm getting going cold turkey from windows
[01:16] <wooflungpoo> When i uninstalled ubuntu from my laptop that was dualbooting winxp. now when i turn on my laptop it just goes to grub loading stage1.5 . then says Grub loading, please wait error 22 any ideas?
[01:16] <ccooke> nekostarz: You can reduce that to 'sudo -s', by the way
[01:16] <nekostarz> ccooke, o?
[01:17] <nekostarz> huh
[01:17] <mcphail> wooflungpoo: you deleted the information grub needs to boot when you deleted the ubuntu partition
[01:17] <avu> nekostarz: or sudo -i :)
[01:17] <nekostarz> whats the diff
[01:17] <nekostarz> lol
[01:17] <nekostarz> i knwo i knwo... man sudo
[01:17] <goatmale> goatmale@goatmale-desktop:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/hd/
[01:17] <goatmale> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:17] <goatmale> what did I do wrong?
[01:17] <ccooke> nekostarz: sudo -i is, in effect, exactly the same as 'sudo su -'. sudo -s is very similar to "su" :-)
[01:18] <wooflungpoo> soo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?
[01:18] <avu> goatmale: /dev/hdb is the whole disk
[01:18] <Zambezi> Which is the best and most secure way to change the rights on a folder on my hdb-harddrive?
[01:18] <holy_cow> goatmale, -t ext3
[01:18] <holy_cow> goatmale, if its ext3
[01:18] <avu> goatmale: what you want to do is mount a partition on that disk, I guess
[01:18] <goatmale> i don't know what it is.
[01:18] <nekostarz> -i  The -i (simulate initial login) /// -s  The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL
[01:19] <nekostarz> interesting
[01:19] <nekostarz> ;)
[01:19] <goatmale> it's blank I just put it in
[01:19] <goatmale> do I want to partition it?
[01:19] <z3r0x> does anybody know a tool to cut tracks?
[01:19] <nekostarz> goatmale,
[01:19] <nekostarz> what are u mounting
[01:19] <MrGideon> Anyone been having random issues with dvd's?
[01:19] <nekostarz> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd/
[01:19] <goatmale> a new hard drive
[01:19] <nekostarz> etc
[01:19] <nekostarz> oh
[01:19] <nekostarz> before you mount it
[01:19] <ccooke> Zambezi: most secure? Take an axe to it... (query: do you mean 'an application for changing rights' or 'the best rights to have' ?
[01:19] <metrom> hey, how do I easily install Azureuz 2.5.0.0?
[01:19] <nekostarz> sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[01:19] <nekostarz> :)
[01:20] <wooflungpoo> soo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?
[01:20] <goatmale> what do I do from there neko?
[01:20] <avu> metrom: download it from azureus.sf.net, tar xjf it, cd azureus, ./azureus
[01:20] <Satya> so whats the solution to the X bug? my thinkpad wont start x!
[01:20] <nekostarz> goatmale,
[01:20] <docgnome> there is a program that will make it so programs like apache and firestarter and so forth won't start when the machine powers up... anyone know the name of it? it works by removing all the /etc/rc*.d files if i recall...
[01:20] <nekostarz> decide how many and what size partitions
[01:20] <nekostarz> what type etc
[01:20] <nekostarz> OR
[01:20] <metrom> should I move the file somewhere after?
[01:21] <goatmale> can I just write it all to something easy
[01:21] <nekostarz> close that without doing anything
[01:21] <nekostarz> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:21] <nekostarz> and run that as root and format graphically
[01:21] <nekostarz> which you might like a little better
[01:21] <McJerry> anyone using aircrack that can help me?
[01:21] <avu> metrom: there's no real need to do so, no
[01:21] <metrom> ok, thanks
[01:22] <nekostarz> np
[01:22] <Zambezi> ccooke, Just change the rights so I can copy files to the folder without using root, but not give access so a hacker can harm my system.
[01:22] <nekostarz> holler if u need mroe help
[01:22] <wooflungpoo> hey mcphail how could i fix that error 22 issue?
[01:22] <nekostarz> and on the azureus thing metrom
[01:22] <nekostarz> i know its not officially supported BUT
[01:22] <nekostarz> automatix >>> install azureus
[01:22] <nekostarz> then sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus
[01:23] <nekostarz> and you can update just fine
[01:23] <nekostarz> :)
[01:23] <cwells> i've got a mac mini with ubuntu that i've messed up the init scripts on and it hangs at boot.  how can I a) mount the disk from a rescue cd b) boot into a different runlevel?
[01:23] <Kyral_Laptop> Automatix != good
[01:23] <avu> nekostarz: you should never tell people to chmod -R 777 anything
[01:23] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, extreme dependance on automatix != good
[01:23] <metrom> so, automatix have the new azureus
[01:23] <nekostarz> a few packages on automatix == great
[01:23] <VitaminG> avu: sometimes, that's the only way it will run
[01:23] <Kyral_Laptop> then show them how to install them the right way
[01:24] <nekostarz> i install opera // swiftfox and azureus with it Kyral_Laptop
[01:24] <nekostarz> and thats about it
[01:24] <nekostarz> eh
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> We no help by doing it for them
[01:24] <nekostarz> they serve a purpose
[01:24] <nekostarz> y not just send em to #gentoo then
[01:24] <nekostarz> :P
[01:24] <avu> vitaming: maybe there are a few very very special cases where 77 really are the appropiate rights
[01:24] <Flannel> nekostarz: Automatix's only purpose is to screw up systems
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> Give a man a fish, feed him for a day
[01:24] <VitaminG> avu: and those situations are my point.
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> teach a man to fish, feed him for life
[01:24] <avu> vitaming: but this is *very* rare and surely not the case in the given situation
[01:24] <nekostarz> teach him to fish and he'll be asking for bait his entire life
[01:24] <nekostarz> and borrowing your rod
[01:25] <nekostarz> and stealing your beer
[01:25] <crimsun> regardless whether you like automatix or not, please don't spread fud about it.
[01:25] <nekostarz> O:
[01:25] <Flannel> crimsun: It's hardly FUD, it's factual.
[01:25] <nekostarz> Flannel,
[01:25] <nekostarz> actually
[01:25] <blend> from what i got reading the help file, u basically need to convert mp3 files using audacity
[01:25] <wooflungpoo> does anyone know how to fix the issue i formatted the ubutnu partition now it hangs at startup with an error22 please help
[01:25] <nekostarz> its quite usefull for a few things
[01:25] <VitaminG> flannel: and so is Microsoft?
[01:25] <nekostarz> and its not screwed my system at all
[01:25] <RogerRabb> how can I check harddrive activity? Is there a monitor?
[01:25] <blend> what do u guys do when u have like 4 gigs of music :S
[01:26] <nekostarz> of course mebbie yer just unlucky
[01:26] <Kyral_Laptop> blend: listen to it
[01:26] <nekostarz> blend, i use dvd's
[01:26] <nekostarz> :D
[01:26] <crimsun> again, that's fud. End of discussion.
[01:26] <nekostarz> dl / backup
[01:26] <nekostarz> crimsun, or someone
[01:26] <Flannel> nekostarz: right, there *are* people out there who have no problems, but there are far too many who do, and when automatix screws up, it's a reinstall.
[01:26] <nekostarz> wtf is fud
[01:26] <blend> lol
[01:26] <Kyral_Laptop> This is why I use Arch.....
[01:26] <nekostarz> Flannel, not nessisaraly
[01:26] <VitaminG> blend: thats nothing, one of my friends has 36 gigs of music, and he's still growing the collection
[01:26] <nekostarz> and reinstalling isnt hard
[01:26] <nekostarz> thats why we all have swap / and /home on different partitions isnt it
[01:26] <nekostarz> o:
[01:26] <wizard> anyone know why i freeze on log out?
[01:27] <Flannel> nekostarz: yes, necessarily.  We see them here all the time, which is why we do not endorse automatix.
[01:27] <drshasta19> hello all !!!
[01:27] <blend> VitaminG does he go and convert each file to listne to it :S
[01:27] <nekostarz> anyway
[01:27] <drshasta19> I need a lot fo help
[01:27] <aaron> does anyone know of an app that functions as a homework organizer?
[01:27] <docgnome> There is a program that will make it so that daemons won't launch when i start my computer... anyone know what it's called?
[01:27] <nekostarz> your safe installing those 3 packages from automatix
[01:27] <drshasta19> when i start ubuntu, after the line EVMS
[01:27] <nekostarz> ~_~
[01:27] <VitaminG> nekostar: fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It's a common MS tactic, or at least was.
[01:27] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[01:27] <lamego> nekostarz, no, we have /home in differente partitions for system upgrades, not to restore from automatix
[01:27] <aaron> os x has schoolhouse, and there are tons of options for windows.
[01:27] <drshasta19> a long list comes up saying [XXXXXXXXXXXXX.XXXX]  Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block
[01:27] <aaron> but synaptic shows nothing for ubuntu.
[01:27] <TiG4> *** Once I have installed SAMBA in Synaptic, how do I start it up? ***
[01:27] <drshasta19> any ideas?
[01:27] <RogerRabb> VitaminG if you store music in lossless for backup purposes then well.. hundreds and hundreds of gigs
[01:27] <skel_home> can anyone tell me how to find recently installed updates and how to back it out? I applied a suggested ubuntu update for Xorg and now my X is broken =/
[01:27] <VitaminG> blend: no, why would he?
[01:27] <crimsun> we should not be endorsing anything not DIRECTLY in the Canonical repos.
[01:27] <nekostarz> lamego, i have /home on different partition so i can run multiple linuxes with same settings
[01:27] <nekostarz> O:O:
[01:27] <nekostarz> anyway
[01:27] <muaddib> I have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules are load
[01:27] <muaddib> much
[01:28] <nekostarz> im not disagreeing and i know there are problems now and then
[01:28] <muaddib> any ideas would be appreciated
[01:28] <nekostarz> so meh
[01:28] <blend> vitaminG from what i got checking the help files in order to listen to mp3 files on ubuntu u need to convert it to a special format
[01:28] <blend> no?
[01:28] <Luccid> How do you pronouce ubunutu ?
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> !mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:28] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, u beat me ~_~
[01:28] <VitaminG> my wireless mouse just died!
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> VitaminG: replace the batteries
[01:28] <jvai> oo-bun'-too
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> :P
[01:29] <bimberi> !pronounce
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[01:29] <mitch> drshasta19, R U using LVM?
[01:29] <saiko> VitaminG: you don't need mouse in console
[01:29] <blend> hehehe thanks guys off for some more reading ... its gonna be a long night lol
[01:29] <RogerRabb> not at all blend.. those links ^ explain the situation and what to install to listen to it.. once you've done that.. try out amarok :D my favourite music player
[01:29] <VitaminG> kyral_laptopthat's what I'm doing.
[01:29] <Luccid> thanks
[01:29] <drshasta19> mitch yes
[01:29] <blend> rogerrabb ok cool i was worried for a moment there lol
[01:29] <drshasta19> it is automotik in ubuntu
[01:29] <nekostarz> ooo yes
[01:29] <nekostarz> actually Kyral_Laptop here's a good one for u
[01:29] <|rt|> hmm how do I look at those links concerning a broken X when X isn't working
[01:29] <VitaminG> it lives!
[01:29] <proselyte> gnome keeps freezing up in ubunt
[01:30] <nekostarz> how can i have my consoles have higher resolution like teh gentoo ???
[01:30] <mcphail> |rt|: use elinks
[01:30] <nekostarz> i would like svga at least ^^;;
[01:30] <Luccid> so is it bun or BOON ?
[01:30] <mitch> drshasta19, did you previously define an lvm pv or vg and then reinstall?
[01:30] <blend> anyway im off for some reading , thanks for the support every1
[01:30] <|rt|> mcphail: k i'll give that a shot thanks
[01:30] <muaddib> any thought
[01:30] <VitaminG> blend: if you install all the gstreamer codecs, and libxine-extracodecs, all media files will play fine.
[01:30] <Luccid> went to link thanks
[01:30] <muaddib> sorry I meant thoughts
[01:30] <rexxkwando> my X on my desktop has ceased viability
[01:30] <bimberi> Luccid: BOON
[01:30] <drshasta19> mitch i dont know what you are talking about sorry
[01:30] <blend> vitaming ok will do that thanks again
[01:30] <aaron> nobody knows of a homework organization app for ubuntu/linux?
[01:30] <nekostarz> muaddib,
[01:30] <drshasta19> the error started to appear after i installed fuse
[01:30] <blend> ciao
[01:30] <eternalswd> anyone know how to make tiltwheel buttons only send a single signal rather than repeated signals?
[01:31] <proselyte> could adding xfce and kde to my ubuntu cause gnome to freeze up repeatedly, if not, what would?
[01:31] <nekostarz> anyone helped u yet ?
[01:31] <mcphail> |rt|: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 will get you out of trouble
[01:31] <drshasta19> i rebooted and the error came up...
[01:31] <VitaminG> luccid: ooboontoo is how you pronounce it
[01:31] <zarstar> i'm new with the ubuntu
[01:31] <muaddib> nekostarz: was that last post for me
[01:31] <mitch> drshasta19, were you using lvm and then reinstalled your OS?
[01:31] <nekostarz> muaddib I have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules a
[01:31] <nekostarz> re loa  <<---
[01:31] <zarstar> what's that story of the root?
[01:31] <|rt|> mcphail: thanks
[01:31] <proselyte> me?
[01:31] <proselyte> no
[01:31] <zarstar>  (and sudo?)
[01:31] <nekostarz> mmm
[01:31] <SonicChao> How do I get the "Wine" menu to appear in Gnome?
[01:31] <nekostarz> lets take a look
[01:31] <nekostarz> sata directly to the mobo muaddib ?
[01:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell zarstar about root
[01:32] <muaddib> nekostarz: no I was still waiting for someone's opnion
[01:32] <drshasta19> mitch, yes but all i did was reactivate grub since windows erased it
[01:32] <drshasta19> and it worked
[01:32] <drshasta19> mitch, it did work, until i installed fuse and rebooted...
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, i never used the write property of fuse i jsut installed it and rebooted
[01:33] <nekostarz> !grub
[01:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:33] <galago> When attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?
[01:33] <mitch> drshasta19, not familiar with fuse.. what is it?
[01:33] <nekostarz> muaddib, are you planning on using raid ?
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, the system halted for a long time, i pressed the power button and restarted and that is when the touble came
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, fuse allows you to read write ntfs files
[01:33] <muaddib> nekostarz: No
[01:34] <mitch> drshasta19, does your system work well otherwise?
[01:34] <drshasta19> mitch, yes
[01:34] <drshasta19> mitch, perfectly
[01:34] <RogerRabb> checking hard drive activity - eg what's reading and writing to it.. can you do that in linux?
[01:34] <|rt|> mcphail: that did the trick...X is working now
[01:34] <nekostarz> then are you planning on installing a butload of hdd's muaddib ?
[01:35] <mitch> drshasta19, the easy fix is to disable evms (if you are not using it).
[01:35] <mcphail> |rt|: excellent. I believe a fixed package is on its way to the repos
[01:35] <rexxkwando> my X on my desktop has ceased viability, what can I do to get X fixed?
[01:35] <profoX`> mitch: (i thought fuse was filesystem in usermode, you can add filesystems without having to recompile the kernel that way)
[01:35] <drshasta19> mitch, how do i do that and is it okay not to use evms?
[01:35] <|rt|> mcphail: so is the update manager going to want to reinstall the version that doesn't work?
[01:36] <mcphail> |rt|: i'd avoid updating for a few hours to be on the safe side
[01:36] <muaddib> nekostarz: eventually yes right now I only have 2 installed
[01:36] <mcphail> *upgrading
[01:36] <|rt|> mcphail: sounds good thanks
[01:36] <profoX`> |rt|: it should already be fixed that problem. Did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? if you see that ubuntu10.4 gets installed, you are okay, if it is 10.3 then you have to downgrade again with the command that mcphail gave you
[01:37] <shawarma> RogerRabb: Yes. Put a '1' into /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
[01:37] <rexxkwando> so if I just wait it out and update/upgrade, X will fix?
[01:37] <profoX`> rexxkwando: yes
[01:37] <FRET> hey all
[01:37] <nekostarz> mmm
[01:37] <profoX`> rexxkwando: should already be fixed in most/all repositories
[01:38] <rexxkwando> okay
[01:38] <mcphail> profoX`: still the borked one on my repo
[01:38] <profoX`> mcphail: did you apt-get update?
[01:38] <mitch> drshasta19, any /dev/evms/ paths in /etc/fstab?
[01:38] <RogerRabb> then what shawarma?
[01:38] <profoX`> mcphail: what repo are you using? (what mirror)
[01:38] <rexxkwando> wow, linux is the atom-bomb
[01:38] <shawarma> RogerRabb: ...then it shows up in dmesg
[01:38] <RogerRabb> awesome thanks
[01:38] <mcphail> profoX`: i tell a lie - just updated again and the new one is there
[01:39] <FRET> I'm new to ubuntu and I had some problems with an xserver-update. Is this a known bug?
[01:39] <Ghost_Printer> are repos down again ?
[01:39] <docgnome> how do i stop a daemon from launching at start up?
[01:39] <profoX`> mcphail: liar !
[01:39] <jordanau> fret yes it is
[01:39] <profoX`> ;)
[01:39] <mcphail> profoX`: pants on fire
[01:39] <shawarma> docgnome: Remove the symlink from /etc/rc2.d
[01:39] <jordanau> FRET, did you get it back and working
[01:39] <muaddib> brb
[01:39] <profoX`> mcphail: lol..
[01:39] <FRET> jordanau, alright....thx. I just didn't know what was happening, when x didn't want to start anymore.
[01:39] <nekostarz> mmmm
[01:39] <drshasta19> mitch, no
[01:39] <shawarma> docgnome: Look for something along the lines of "services" in the administratoin menu in gnome.
[01:39] <profoX`> FRET: it should already be fixed that problem. Did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? if you see that ubuntu10.4 gets installed, you are okay
[01:40] <nekostarz> eh
[01:40] <nekostarz> well fuck
[01:40] <nekostarz> *oops
[01:40] <FRET> jordanau, yes. I finally thought about looking for updates and it was fixed
[01:40] <jordanau> FRET, look in the topic and you will se a link to the problem\
[01:40] <FRET> jordanau, thx
[01:40] <FRET> profoX`, I did not do the dist-upgrade
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> i need a little help getting a printer to work
[01:41] <profoX`> FRET: normal upgrade is good too
[01:41] <Toran> Hey, does anyone know of a Nintendo Entertainment System Emulator that will support my generic USB gamepad?
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> where do i find he ppd file
[01:41] <FRET> profoX`, ok. Did that and everything is working now. But I guess such things don't happen to often? ;-)
[01:41] <profoX`> Toran: dont know about NES, for SNES I used Zsnes / snes9x
[01:41] <Thlayli> anyone else having troubles with xorg since the update?
[01:41] <Toran> I use zsnes, and it works fine with my pad
[01:41] <profoX`> FRET: this is the first time that a problem this big has happened that I know of.
[01:41] <Thlayli> i'm using the proprietary nvidia driver and can't start xorg anymore now
[01:42] <mitch> drshasta19, the errors won't hurt anything, but you can remove evms from the boot runlevel and you wont see them anymore...
[01:42] <drshasta19> ok
[01:42] <profoX`> FRET: I proposed a new "acceptance" repository, so we will never have problems like this again, i hope the idea gets accepted, technical board meeting is next tuesday
[01:42] <Agrajag> Thlayli: check the topic
[01:42] <Knome> Toran: perhaps fceu
[01:42] <Thlayli> i get errors in GLXcore.so and the message "No Devices detected"
[01:42] <drshasta19> mitch, how do i remove it then?
[01:42] <Toran> Tried it, it doesn't seem to work
[01:42] <y0ss1_77> does anyone know a page to help me get my printer working?
[01:42] <Thlayli> agrajag: could you copy paste it for me? can't read it fully on my current screen :(
[01:42] <Agrajag> Toran: there is a program called joy2key that should help you
[01:43] <mitch> drshasta19, I had the same problem, and never could find a good solution. I finally deactivated/removed LVM volumes and started over.
[01:43] <FRET> profoX`, I see.
[01:43] <Toran> Thanks Agrajag
[01:43] <Agrajag> Thlayli: just type /topic
[01:43] <Thlayli> thx
[01:43] <drshasta19> mitch, could you give me more details please on the procedure i must follow? thank you
[01:43] <crimsun> profoX`: hardly. Fedora Core 5 released with a kernel that refused to load (by default) proprietary modules.
[01:43] <Agrajag> Thlayli: basically, you should just try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:44] <profoX`> crimsun: ._.
[01:44] <Agrajag> Thlayli: that should install the newest update that fixes the problem the last update produced
[01:44] <y0ss1_77> printers please?
[01:44] <dravas> Uhh some things on Linux have like Choppy movement like Screensavers etc what can I do about that I have a nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU
[01:44] <mitch> drshasta19, update-rc.d -f evms remove
[01:44] <profoX`> anyway, this is my idea about improving the quality of the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcceptanceRepositoryProposal FRET
[01:44] <mitch> drshasta19, ^^ at your own risk!
[01:44] <drshasta19> mitch thanks a lot
[01:44] <profoX`> dravas: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[01:44] <drshasta19> yeah
[01:44] <drshasta19> thanks
[01:44] <dravas> no
[01:45] <matt____> has anyone installed steam on dapper
[01:45] <crimsun> profoX`: I'd like to draw your attention to the existing -proposed, repository.
[01:45] <y0ss1_77> does anyone know how to get hp printer to work on linux?
[01:45] <crimsun> s/\,//
[01:45] <profoX`> crimsun: if you read my proposal, then you'd know that I know about it.
[01:45] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: what model
[01:45] <FRET> profoX`, thx... I'll have a look
[01:45] <profoX`> crimsun: proposed is more for big updates like openoffice.org
[01:46] <mcphail> profoX`: was the borked xorg patch a security patch?
[01:46] <y0ss1_77> hp 1012 laserjet
[01:46] <dravas> !nvidia
[01:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:46] <profoX`> mcphail: I don't know, I was told it was an upstream bug in X.org itself
[01:46] <crimsun> profoX`: there's no point in duplicating what -proposed does.
[01:46] <blend> !mp3
[01:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> ya know how the faulty version of x.org was released as an official .deb in the ubuntu repositories? well, after i downgraded, i can manually start X with "startx", but gdm refuses to start, with error after error
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> :(
[01:46] <profoX`> crimsun: please read
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> can anyone please help?
[01:46] <profoX`> crimsun: i'm not "duplicating"
[01:46] <crimsun> profoX`: I have.
[01:47] <nalioth> FantasticFoo: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[01:47] <FantasticFoo> nalioth: thankyou!!!!!!!!
[01:47] <blend> guys what should i install exactly in order to listen to mp3s???
[01:47] <LostFrog> Ethernet device naming is set in /etc/iftab!!!
[01:47] <profoX`> crimsun: small fixes get releases in the repositories immediately, that should get catched by the acceptance repository before getting released (to follow the DTAP rules)
[01:47] <nalioth> !tell blend about mp3
[01:47] <LostFrog> blend: mpg123?
[01:47] <imperfect-> Anyone at all know what I can do to get X working on a ACD connected monitor?
[01:47] <blend> kindda getting lost here
[01:47] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: don't restart X with startx
[01:47] <nalioth> blend: look at your private messages
[01:48] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-133142.html
[01:48] <Thlayli> /exit
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: what is the proper way?
[01:48] <blend> k thanks
[01:48] <y0ss1_77> ty
[01:48] <crimsun> profoX`: that's what we're discussing for -proposed
[01:48] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: first, run "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:48] <crimsun> profoX`: as in _right now_ in -devel
[01:48] <blend> thks nalioth
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: i tried that
[01:48] <blend> will check it out now
[01:48] <profoX`> crimsun: oh ._.
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: but it gives an error
[01:48] <nalioth> FantasticFoo: try the --reinstall thing
[01:49] <profoX`> crimsun: I can join ? ;P
[01:49] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: oh well, guess i'll just use reboot
[01:49] <gnat_x> i volunteer at a public access computer center, and someon managed to break gnome prertty badly (using dapper), there's no menues, and right clicking does squat, and there's no background. i can however get into failsafe mode. any ideas?
[01:49] <FantasticFoo> nalioth: k, i will right this second
[01:49] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: startx seems to spawn rogue gdm processes which mess things up. Make sure all have been killed
[01:49] <metrom> hmm.. anyone know how to install Java JRE [1.5.0_07] ?
[01:49] <wasabi> apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:50] <metrom> thanks
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know how to install OS X Tiger on Ubuntu?
[01:50] <nalioth> !tell metrom about java
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> !Tiger
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tiger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: what do you mean?
[01:50] <Nameeater> HaroldJohnson: pearpc?
[01:50] <survivor> Tiger on Ubuntu? err?
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth:Hello0
[01:50] <survivor> What do you want? ^^
[01:50] <Noah0504> Okay, I'm sure this question has been asked a million times today, but has the broken xserver update been pulled?
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> Nameeater:Hello
[01:50] <eyequeue> Noah0504, no
[01:50] <Flannel> Noah0504: a newer (fixed) version is out
[01:50] <mcphail> Noah0504: yes
[01:50] <eyequeue> Noah0504, superceded
[01:51] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[01:51] <Nameeater> HaroldJohnson, http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ might run it, but good luck!
[01:51] <gnat_x> boken xserver? what's the symptoms.
[01:51] <eyequeue> gnat_x, /topic
[01:51] <HaroldJohnson> Nameeater:Thanks
[01:51] <mcphail> gnat_x: broken X!
[01:51] <avis> Noah0504, i'm sure by now its migrated to most mirrors -- the newer fixed replacement.  keyword: most  i found that if you take out any country code in your sources.list that you get the correct one.
[01:51] <wasabi> PearPC will probably not run it in any worthwhile way.
[01:52] <wasabi> You are better off with VMware.
[01:52] <eauxnguyen> identify
[01:52] <eauxnguyen> Gnome91
[01:52] <Noah0504> Okay, thanks guys.  I downloaded that upgrade last night and woke up to a nice surprise this morning when I tried to turn on my computer, haha.  I just figured it was something I did, so I backed up a little bit using a LiveCD and reinstalled.  I laughed when I saw the notice on the forums.
[01:52] <survivor> well first you should say if you want to run it on x86 or ppc
[01:52] <survivor> or whatever you mean by running one os on another :)
[01:52] <eyequeue> Noah0504, 10.4 is the fix
[01:53] <imperfect-> I can't even run X -configure on this powerpc box
[01:53] <Noah0504> eyequeue: Okay, thanks.
[01:54] <mcphail> Did the 10.3 version break _everyone's_ X? If so, how on earth did it get released?
[01:54] <nalioth> !tell imperfect- about xcfg
[01:54] <SonicChao> mcphail: Not everyone's. Mine runs fine.
[01:54] <eyequeue> mcphail, no, mine was fine
[01:54] <eauxnguyen> ah that is what I was checking on.  killed mine
[01:54] <Noah0504> mcphail: That's what I would like to know.
[01:54] <mcphail> SonicChao: eyequeue: what hardware are you running?
[01:55] <eauxnguyen> !tell eauxnguyen - about xcfg
[01:55] <eyequeue> mcphail, laptop here
[01:55] <SonicChao> It's a Linux distribution, they don't test this for ages before they release it.
[01:55] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater: when i do hp-toolbox it says no bash: command not found
[01:55] <imperfect-> nalioth : X -configure should probe not lock up my box.
[01:55] <SonicChao> Just chill. There is a fix.
[01:55] <y0ss1_77> how do i get the hp toolbox if it is not there
[01:55] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: Get bash.
[01:55] <SonicChao> mcphail: HP dv1411se
[01:55] <mcphail> SonicChao: it is the stable branch of the distribution. This sort of thing shouldn't happen
[01:55] <nalioth> imperfect-: i've not heard of that command.  did you read your PM from ubotu ?
[01:55] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: Or make sure it's in your $PATH variable
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> huh and huh
[01:56] <imperfect-> nalioth : might i suggest reading man X ?
[01:56] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: BASH is the Bourne Again Shell
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> brand newbian
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> yes
[01:56] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: And the $PATH variable contains paths so you don't need to type in the paths to execute, well..
[01:57] <SonicChao> mcphail: It shouldn't happen, but everyone makes mistakes. There is also no warranty, and weeks/months of testing doesn't happen.
[01:57] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: do you have a terminal open?
[01:57] <Phenax> if /lol was in $PATH, and a.oout was in /lol, then you could run a.oout by just typing a.oout :)
[01:57] <y0ss1_77> Phenax, yup
[01:57] <mcphail> SonicChao: i have never installed a piece of software which has a warranty :)
[01:58] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, yes
[01:58] <mcphail> SonicChao: ubuntu is getting a reputation for these mistakes
[01:58] <chantron> what mistakes?
[01:58] <ranunculoid> mcphail: ubuntu has a warrenty ;)
[01:58] <eyequeue> chantron, /topic
[01:58] <Noah0504> This is the only one I've ever whitnessed.
[01:58] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: does slocate hp-toolbox show /usr/bin/hp-toolbox ?
[01:58] <mcphail> chantron: broken X, passwords logged in plain text, etc
[01:58] <SonicChao> mcphail: Well, there are problems, but everyone needs to take a chill pill.
[01:58] <chantron> my bad. im a compelte noob to IRC
[01:58] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, let me check
[01:59] <eauxnguyen> it's debian after all. can't get much more reliable packages
[01:59] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, no
[01:59] <Nameeater> what ubuntu are you using?
[01:59] <dravas> to install nVidia linux drivers I need to install the restricted modules and I allready have some installed when I checked does that mean that I am find to install them?
[01:59] <y0ss1_77> dapper
[01:59] <Nameeater> wierd, I have it
[01:59] <eyequeue> ubuntu is getting a reputation for being made by HUMANs?  makes sense ;)
[02:00] <y0ss1_77> hmm
[02:00] <delire> funnily enough, such things as a broken X after upgrade are almost common with Debian testing/unstable and other branches of popular distros ;)
[02:00] <eauxnguyen> heh
[02:00] <SonicChao> eyequeue: XD
[02:00] <SonicChao> eyequeue: Made for humans, by humans.
[02:00] <eyequeue> and that human theme
[02:00] <delire> but yes, Ubuntu will have lost many clients/users as a result of this. many simply won't know what to do, or even how to search for help online about a fix.
[02:00] <danmorg> any idea why my machine running ubuntu 6.06 randomly shuts down?   its a eMachines...
[02:01] <mcphail> delire: absolutely
[02:01] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, is there a hp toolbox pkg i can get?
[02:01] <Phenax> danmorg: Maybe check your system logging utilities for.. logs?
[02:01] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: just having a look, one mo
[02:01] <Phenax>  Most likely you might find something in /var/log/
[02:01] <delire> mcphail: so it goes. Windows has hardly a better track record. Service Packs have cut out hundreds of thousands of users at a time.
[02:01] <gimmulf> Now im tired of irssi, any gui irc client to recommend?
[02:01] <eyequeue> delire, if a user leaves over a broken package, i wonder what the user would turn to instead
[02:01] <torpedo|dog> gimmulf: x-chat
[02:02] <eyequeue> gimmulf, xchat is common
[02:02] <AdamKrier> gimmulf: xchat-gnome
[02:02] <gimmulf> oki
[02:02] <gimmulf> tnx
[02:02] <Phenax> gimmulf: I've used irssi for a few years. It's expansible, themable and overall great.
[02:02] <danmorg> Phenax: ok.  is there something i can do to prevent it?
[02:02] <Noah0504> xchat-gnome is a joke...
[02:02] <FRET> what's the command to get the ubuntu version one is using?
[02:02] <hybrid> Phenax: +2
[02:02] <Phenax> danmorg: After you find your problem there may be
[02:02] <delire> eyequeue: most people don't really like computers, and think of them as appliances. they will just move to what next works.
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: Thank you for saying that!
[02:02] <DarkMageZ> unfortunantly it's not possible to cut the humans out of the equation, tho, we could have a <version>-testing branch which would get the patches first, and then they could cry about stuff being broken before it reaches the normal <version> users :)
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: That was on the tip of my tounge....
[02:02] <Noah0504> SonicChao: haha, It's so true...
[02:02] <Rosbief> hi everybody
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: xchat-gnome is garbage.
[02:02] <mcphail> eyequeue: a broken GUI is a big deal. They could get a more comfortable user experince on Win95
[02:02] <gimmulf> Phenax:  used it for a year or so, only thing i think is great is that you can pick up a session thru screen when ssh
[02:02] <eyequeue> delire, exactly.  what do you think has zero breakages?
[02:03] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It goes along with gnome program-strip policies
[02:03] <delire> eyequeue: a piece of unbroken wood.
[02:03] <eyequeue> mcphail, as i said earlier, a broken gui is nothing major, imo
[02:03] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77, you need the package hplip
[02:03] <Phenax> gimmulf: Well, I'm the type of person that must have ALL IMPORTANT UTILITIES not depending on X, or a FB, etc.
[02:03] <Rosbief> i just installed ubunto like a hour ago but now my question is why can i enter my other partions and why cant i change the name of the hd where ubunto is installed?
[02:03] <gimmulf> ahh ok Phenax  :)
[02:03] <Noah0504> SonicChao: That would be fine, but they've really stripped it down.
[02:03] <mcphail> eyequeue: for you and me, maybe not. But the CLI is not why people are using ubuntu
[02:03] <Phenax> And in-fact most of them are much better than their gtk/qt counterparts :)
[02:03] <void^> broken gui is a final showstopper for any ordinary "humans"
[02:03] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, so apt-get hplip?
[02:03] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get install hplip :)
[02:03] <delire> void^, mcphail: this is true
[02:03] <eyequeue> mcphail, i think guis are a waste, personally
[02:04] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's XChat -options, -interface, -tabs-by-default, -everything else.
[02:04] <eyequeue> mcphail, not to mention confusing, though i've manged to learn this one a bit
[02:04] <Phenax> Personally I think GUI's are great for particular things while CLI is great for particular things.
[02:04] <Noah0504> SonicChao: haha, Yeah, that about covers everything.
[02:04] <Rosbief> anyone a idea?
[02:04] <mcphail> eyequeue: GNOME is running a fullscreen terminal and irssi quite nicely here :)
[02:04] <Phenax> And I think the best combination is CLI with a optional GUI interface
[02:05] <eyequeue> Phenax, good for bloat, good for efficiency ;)
[02:05] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77, you may also need to apt-get the python-qt3 package as it complains about not having it when I try to run hp-toolbox
[02:05] <Malachi> How many people have come asking about the xserver break?
[02:05] <eyequeue> mcphail, irssi always runs under screen for me :)  but i'm in xchat now, as i said i've manged to figure this gui out a bit, heh
[02:05] <mcphail> Malachi: several thousand
[02:05] <satan> to hell with you all
[02:06] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with sldaemond....but the  init script doesn't start slmodemd, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:06] <satan> WHO NEEDS A BLOODY ROPE!?
[02:06] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's like running a "xchat -oite" if those are even options...
[02:06] <mcphail> eyequeue: yes, screen here as well
[02:06] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's really crazy.
[02:06] <Malachi> Thought so. May I asked what happened? It freaked the living heck out of me.
[02:06] <SonicChao> satan: Please stop.
[02:06] <satan> OHH IS THAT RIGHT RAMBO?
[02:06] <Rosbief> Can Somone please answer me? its like i can't go trought my other partiotion drives
[02:06] <eyequeue> Malachi, /topic
[02:06] <Phenax> satan: Who's a little 12-year old who wants attention?
[02:06] <chantron> guys no offense but it sounds to me like your gui vs. cli discussion is in the wrong place. isn't ubuntu a distro meant for more or less, the common user?
[02:06] <satan> me!
[02:06] <Malachi> eyequeue: Hmm?
[02:06] <chantron> im not saying "keep on topic" or wahtever, just pointing it out
[02:06] <SonicChao> Phenax: Watch it. >>
[02:07] <mcphail> chantron: i think a debate about a broken GUI is rather topical today
[02:07] <dravas> Uhh what does this mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21443
[02:07] <chantron> true, but youre debating whether or not a GUI is useful in a distro geared towards average users
[02:07] <Rosbief> Anyone?
[02:07] <zarstar> hol
[02:07] <eyequeue> chantron, perhaps you have not been in here for the past 18 hours
[02:08] <mcphail> chantron: we're debating whether an update process which breaks X is a significant systems failure
[02:08] <michael__> Tech support anyone?
[02:08] <eyequeue> chantron, it proved how useless a gui can be
[02:08] <Rosbief> Yeah need support to but noone is answering
[02:08] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:08] <SonicChao> michael__: ?
[02:08] <Flannel> Rosbief: you need to mount the other drives to be able to read them
[02:08] <michael__> I need support too ... X won't start.
[02:08] <chantron> i see what youre saying now
[02:08] <azathoth> downgrade xorg
[02:08] <Flannel> Guys, take the GUI vs CLI (vs whatever) to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:08] <eyequeue> michael__, /topic
[02:08] <Rosbief> Flannel: doesnt mount
[02:08] <chantron> i jsut steppted into this randomly
[02:08] <SonicChao> Ok, listen.
[02:08] <mcphail> eyequeue: if a similar poorly tested patch is applied to BASH, we will all be in trouble
[02:09] <SonicChao> First of all, we are losing new users.
[02:09] <zarstar> what's C.L.I?
[02:09] <Knome> dravas: just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and comment out the dri module then change driver nv to nvidia.
[02:09] <eyequeue> mcphail, as happened to debian a while back, yeah, agreed
[02:09] <azathoth> CLI = command line interface
[02:09] <chantron> command line interface
[02:09] <zarstar> console .... interface?
[02:09] <SonicChao> You well-tuned Linux users have no problem adapting.
[02:09] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:09] <zarstar> :)
[02:09] <SonicChao> When a noob is approached with $, what's the first thing they do?
[02:09] <azathoth> spend it?
[02:09] <eyequeue> SonicChao, spend it
[02:09] <SonicChao> Simple: they come here
[02:09] <mainer> apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges:))
[02:09] <galago> When attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?
[02:09] <SonicChao> eyequeue: Very funny.
[02:10] <w30> I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course
[02:10] <galago> I'm able to see files in the share and navigate through the folders, but I can't create files or folders nor can I copy data
[02:10] <mcphail> Flannel: this is not a GUI vs CLI debate
[02:10] <Rosbief> Flannel: It won't mounnt! and i don't know why
[02:10] <michael__> mainer, was that to me?
[02:10] <galago> when running in the console I get ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Not a directory" while doing a file operation.
[02:10] <Noah0504> What
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:10] <mainer> michael__: to anyone
[02:10] <SonicChao> I meant you@box:~$
[02:10] <Flannel> mcphail: right, but whatever it is, it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not directly support related
[02:10] <_azrael__> Question: When I check my env, there is a variable called PANTS. Does anyone know what this is for/what it does?
[02:10] <lophyte> anyone know where I can download additional gnome panel applets?
 SonicChao, spend it
 Simple: they come here
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> oops
[02:10] <Noah0504> Opps... What's that best option for MSN and webcams.  I've tried aMSN, but it the webcam is really choppy... like a frame a minute, haha.
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:11] <mcphail> Flannel: have you been on the channel today?? X has broken for many users. That is both on topic and topical.
[02:11] <michael__> mainer, but was it regarding the X-won't-start bug issue?
[02:11] <rmd> Jamminpotato: don't waste your time with a shared partition
[02:11] <eyequeue> and even on /topic, heh
[02:11] <Jamminpotato> rmd, why?
[02:11] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: As much as you want it to be? 2gb minimum I'd say
[02:11] <rmd> because you can download a tiny program that will let you access your linux partition, and ubuntu comes with built-in read access on NTFS
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, dang ok im so used to needing 8 gigs to be safe with xp, wow, wow, linux rocks
[02:12] <eyequeue> Jamminpotato, don't use ntfs for the shared partition btw
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> rmd, but ubuntu cant right to ntfs can it
[02:12] <mainer> michael__: yes,it's not 100% foolproof,but lists open bugs,done=fixed bugs,listchanges does what it says,you can install via synaptic,downgrade the xorg for a fix
[02:12] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: With other distros I've been able to stick it on less than 100mb, not with much software of course
[02:12] <Phenax> FAT32 can be read and written by Windows and Linux
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> eyequeue, i was planning on vfat or fat32?
[02:12] <SonicChao> Jamminpotato: No, it can't.
[02:13] <eyequeue> Jamminpotato, they supposedly are okay, yes
[02:13] <rmd> Jamminpotato: no, it can't.  but if you're just sharing media, it doesn't matter.
[02:13] <w30> I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course
[02:13] <michael__> mainer: How do I use synaptic if I can't get into X?
[02:13] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: There are EXT2/3 drivers for Windows, and full r/w NTFS drivers for Linux
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> what would be your recommended fs for a shared partition
[02:13] <mcphail> w30: yes, it has been fixed now
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> or should i forgoe it completely
[02:13] <eyequeue> michael__, read the url at the /topic, apt-get works fine
[02:13] <rmd> Jamminpotato: fat32 for your shared partition, if you insist on complicating it in that way
[02:13] <michael__> eyequeue: Thanks
[02:13] <acidian> can I get a tip for a good irc app for ubuntu?
[02:13] <jordan_> after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> acidian, xchat
[02:13] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: So, FAT32, EXT2, or NTFS would probably be your best bet
[02:13] <jordan_> acidian, irssi and xchat
[02:13] <eyequeue> acidian, irssi and xchat are popular
[02:14] <acidian> Im testing xchat right now, but I dont like it that much
[02:14] <acidian> hmm
[02:14] <rmd> acidian: irssi, bitchx
[02:14] <michael__> I use Gaim for everything, including IRC
[02:14] <acidian> I was looking at gaim
[02:14] <eyequeue> acidian, irssi happens to be my favorite, but may not be yours
[02:14] <michael__> I know a lot of people who prefer xchat though
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> i dont like gaim for irc
[02:14] <michael__> I'll be glad when Gaim gives a final release of 2.0.0
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> how good and fast are the windows tools for righting to ext3? and similarly how good are the linux tools for r/w ing on to ntfs?
[02:14] <acidian> I dont like not having list of people in the channel
[02:14] <acidian> anyway to fix that?
[02:14] <eyequeue> acidian, faim works, but is not featureful for irc, it seems rather clumsy
[02:15] <jordan_> when i am connected to a vpn i lose my xchat connection, is there a reason for that?
[02:15] <eyequeue> acidian, gaim
[02:15] <bkudria> rmd: which "tiny program" allows one to access ext3 in windows?
[02:15] <rmd> Jamminpotato: windows writing to ext is no problem at all.  but linux writing to NTFS has been known to cause physical errors on the disk
[02:15] <acidian> I remember bitchx of old, wasnt realy that good
[02:15] <imperfect-> Man
[02:15] <mainer> michael__: live-cd probly would be easiest
[02:15] <imperfect-> that is some WEIRD stuff
[02:15] <dravas> Knome I dont have nv in my xorg.conf
[02:15] <acidian> this is my first time installing and using linux myself though
[02:15] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: They're not full r/w speed, or fully stable.. but they work. The ext2 drivers for Windows I heard weren't bad, same goes for NTFS for Linux
[02:15] <jane_d_mook> I need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..
[02:15] <imperfect-> the only way I can get myu LCD to work
[02:15] <rmd> bkudria: i don't remember off the top of my head.  google ext3 xp or something.
[02:15] <Jamminpotato> rmd, so i should make the extra space ext3?
[02:15] <imperfect-> is 8bpp
[02:15] <bkudria> rmd: ok, thanks...
[02:15] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:16] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Although NTFS r/w for Linux is quite new.. but not that unstable/slow
[02:16] <Jamminpotato> hmm...im thinking a shard vfat or fat 32 will be easiest for me
[02:16] <eyequeue> acidian, though i also dislike bx, if you dislike it, you may not like irssi
[02:16] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Likely
[02:16] <rmd> Jamminpotato: i would make it fat32 would be better for you because windows wont need any additional sofware and linux wont have any issues, either
[02:16] <acidian> eyequeue,  Ill give it a try
[02:16] <mainer> michathen chroot to the hdd,partiton with ubuntu run apt-get or aptitude remove xorg,then re-install the old
[02:16] <FTMichael> Someone remind me how to list the channels on a given server?  I tried /list and got nothing
[02:16] <eyequeue> FTMichael, which client?
[02:16] <jordan_> after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?
[02:17] <Phenax> FTMichael: The server may not support or, your client may not support it, or it may be going to a different window
[02:17] <FTMichael> irssi
[02:17] <Jamminpotato> what is the max partition size for a fat32 partition?
[02:17] <FTMichael> I'm in irssi currently.
[02:17] <Knome> dravas: ok...what is there?
[02:17] <Phenax> FTMichael: Try going to the server's window/
[02:17] <eyequeue> FTMichael, /list should work then, on this network
[02:17] <Knome> dravas: under Section Device, Driver
[02:17] <mcphail> FTMichael: freenode somtimes refuse to /list if the servers are busy
[02:17] <Phenax> Plus you have to do /list -YES
[02:17] <dravas>  Identifier "Generic Video Card "Driver "vesa"	BusID "PCI:0:5:0"
[02:18] <acidian> ok, so Ive been trying to play back a video file, and in windows I always install codecs to get videos working, and Im guessing its the same here with linux
[02:18] <w30> list will give an error of server is too busy to do that sometimes
[02:18] <Knome> dravas: what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[02:18] <acidian> so ayone know a good codec package?
[02:18] <Stargazers> Is there any programs like DigiKam, F-Spot or like that BUT which has IPTC-support? I mean, XnView has it but it is totally too ugly to use :(
[02:18] <cello_rasp> has anyone compared blackdown java to the official sun ubuntu java package yet?
[02:18] <Stargazers> I would be very thankfully if you can help
[02:18] <Phenax> dravas: Change the "Driver" line to "nv" instead of "vesa"
[02:18] <Flannel> cello_rasp: blackdown doesn't work with some java programs
[02:18] <jordan_> !codec
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Stargazers> I personally love DigiKam, but there is no IPTC support
[02:19] <cello_rasp> im convinced the official sun package is bloated and slow in comparison
[02:19] <eyequeue> !mp3 > jordan_
[02:19] <dravas> ok Phenax
[02:19] <jordan_> acidian, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:19] <w30> acidian, in synaptic search type codecs
[02:19] <Flannel> Jamminpotato:  a few TB.
[02:19] <Rondom> !Restricted Formats
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Restricted Formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <eyequeue> jordan_, i think that's the factoid you wanted
[02:19] <Phenax> dravas: Of course, that's for the open source nvidia drivers with no 3d support.
[02:19] <Jamminpotato> Flannel, but isnt there a 4gig max single file thing?
[02:19] <Phenax> dravas: If your looking for 3d support, get the official nvidia drivers and then change the line to "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[02:19] <dravas> knome I have a nVidia Geforce 6100 intergrated
[02:19] <Jamminpotato> 4gig max file size would be a pain in the arsinic
[02:19] <dravas> ok Phenax
[02:19] <jordan_> eyequeue, yes thanks
[02:20] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: right
[02:20] <saiko> how do i blank an cd-rw ?
[02:20] <saiko> using cdrdao & cdrecord gives me an error Error trying to open /dev/cdrw exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[02:20] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I suggest you make it EXT2 or NTFS depending on if your going to use Linux or Windows more
[02:20] <verbose> i tried using fglrx drivers and they messed up my system, so i removed all the installed fglrx packages and restored my original(working) xorg.conf
[02:20] <superjew9020> im a newb and this is probably an easy question but wat is a hoary CD??
[02:20] <ubuntu> i just did a update and now i cant get back in to ubuntu????
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> if only ntfs were more open and easier to write to
[02:20] <verbose> but when i startx i get EE no devices detected
[02:20] <verbose> any suggestions?
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> or if only microsoft embraced thigns like ext3 more
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> WHY?
[02:20] <eyequeue> superjew9020, the precious version of ubuntu
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> why mr.gates why
[02:20] <Flannel> ubuntu: read the topic
[02:20] <superjew9020> oooo
[02:20] <acidian> jordan_, thanks :)
[02:20] <Noah0504> exit
[02:21] <superjew9020> thanks
[02:21] <Noah0504> Opps
[02:21] <jordan_> acidian, any time
[02:21] <Jamminpotato> whats the difference between ext2 and ext3
[02:21] <eyequeue> superjew9020, no wait, one beofre that
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I'd say just drop Windows.. I've done it a few years ago without regret.. meh
[02:21] <jordan_> anyone know how to view the files on a file server?
[02:21] <ubuntu> no screans
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Journaling, b-tree hashing (Optional), not much really
[02:21] <eyequeue> superjew9020, hoary then breezy now dapper (and then edgy)
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: You can mount EXT3 as EXT2 and convert EXT2 to EXT3
[02:21] <eyequeue> ubuntu, /topic
[02:21] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, ido lan parties and gaming somewhat regularly so the windows box makes things easier
[02:21] <ikaruga> i followed the instructions to set up php, but it does not work
[02:21] <ikaruga> help....
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> will ext2 or ext 3 be easier to deal with from windows
[02:22] <SonicChao> Jamminpotato: I thought I'd need Windows for a long time, I dropped it and never came back and it made my Linux experience much more enjoyable.
[02:22] <SonicChao> !php
[02:22] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Oh, there's a lot of nice games for Linux -- Quake 1-4, Doom 1-3, all UT, and a bunch of others for commercial games.. but I don't suppose you play em :)
[02:22] <w30> how do I tell what ubuntu version I have installed?
[02:22] <eyequeue> !version
[02:22] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, i play ut2k4 but my main game is CS:S
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Not to mention hundreds of free/open source games.. I'm a regular gamers and always on UNIX
[02:22] <Joseph> I have a hard drive set up with 3 partitions that I know of: Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux and a FAT32 Files partition which holds all my files so i can access them from both operating systems. I recently reinstalled Windows XP and now do not get the option to choose which operating system to boot when I start up. What do I do?
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> or else i would drop windows
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Well, if that's your only game with a dependancy in Windows, it runs quite well in WINE
[02:22] <SonicChao> w30: System --> About Ubuntu
[02:22] <ikaruga> ubotu: those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <w30> ubotu, thanks :=)
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :=) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <Knome> dravas: well you could try the nvidia driver by changing 'vesa' to 'nvidia' but I have no idea if it'll work or not you might want to copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to your home directory so you can overwrite the file with the old copy if it doesn't work *don't forget to restart X after altering the file*
[02:22] <Ross_> SonicChaap, I personally recommend Xampp
[02:23] <Warbo> !grub > Joseph
[02:23] <ubuntu> wtf is goning on wit dis
[02:23] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I've fully ran Steam and all related games with Windows-like performance many times.
[02:23] <SonicChao> ubuntu: what?
[02:23] <cello_rasp> Ross_ xampp is badly organised. but initially acessible.
[02:23] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, plus i need that sercurity blanket of winXP, it jsut makes me feel like as crappy as it is at least i know what to do wit h that pile of crap
[02:23] <profoX`> Ross_: xampp doesnt automatically get updates from apt-get so i would say normal lamp installation would be better
[02:23] <saiko> people, how do you blank your cd-rw's ?
[02:23] <ikaruga> w30: uh, I think ubotu is a bot
[02:23] <Flannel> ubuntu: there was a bad package, the new one should be updated and in the repositories, read the topic, go to that link, for more information
[02:23] <jordan_> does anyone here find that beagle isn't really all it is cracked up to be?
[02:23] <Ross_> mmm
[02:23] <Warbo> saiko: I use GnomeBaker
[02:24] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: There are options you can enable a much more secure 'security blanket' in UNIX :)
[02:24] <Ross_> i'm new....xampp worked out of the box very easily
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> jordan_, refresh me what is breagle again?
[02:24] <mcphail> jordan_: yes, it is a resource hog
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, haha nice, but you know what i mean
[02:24] <rkd> Jamminpotato: a desktop search mechanism
[02:24] <Stargazers> ->
[02:24] <cello_rasp> Ross_ once you get into mysql you'll want to install the LAMP from Ubuntu
[02:24] <w30> ikaruga, duh....
[02:24] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: well, if you decide to switch over feel free to ask me for support - I've been operating UNIX systems for years now and know most of my things.
[02:24] <ubuntu> i have 6.06 or what ever and i cant log in it says cant find screans
[02:24] <Warbo> jordan_: I couldn't get it to return results from my Home dir :(
[02:24] <saiko> Warbo: i see it's not in ubuntu by default
[02:24] <xnull192> any ideea how can I stop sending emails from my box to user@domain.com ? I got sendmail
[02:24] <Warbo> !info gnomebaker
[02:24] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[02:24] <mcphail> jordan_: i have found all mono apps perform badly
[02:25] <cello_rasp> what's a really lightweight browser?
[02:25] <saiko> Warbo: thx, on it
[02:25] <Joseph> Thank you Warbo
[02:25] <profoX`> ubuntu: log into the terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[02:25] <profoX`> ubuntu: it should fix it
[02:25] <Joseph> Thanks a lot
[02:25] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: Dillo.
[02:25] <Flannel> cello_rasp: Dillo
[02:25] <eyequeue> cello_rasp, cli?  gui?
[02:25] <HeathenDan> dillo is lightweight
[02:25] <Phenax> cello_rasp: lynx, links, dillo
[02:25] <dravas> Phenax how do I restart xserv?
[02:25] <Warbo> I have installed tracker, but it's deskbar integration is pretty pointless for me
[02:25] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: sudo apt-get install dillo elinks
[02:25] <ToHellWithGA> if anybody here knows something about plumbing i'd love some help in #plumbing
[02:25] <cello_rasp> Dillo looks like rubbish and doesn't work at all well.
[02:25] <ubuntu> i am on live cd right now
[02:25] <profoX`> dillo is gtk1 ? :x
[02:25] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, thanks, people like you are one of the reasons i really like linux and moreso ubuntu, cause a lot of other distros dont have such helpful support
[02:25] <Warbo> since deskbar forces a white background for my theme's white fonts :(
[02:25] <jane_d_mook> I need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..
[02:25] <mcphail> cello_rasp: that's why you need a heavyweight browser
[02:25] <cello_rasp> dillo was hilariously broken on 5.10 in fact
[02:25] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I've only used Ubuntu for 15-minutes and then I totally dropped it.. Lol
[02:26] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: It's the best light-weight browser. I personally use Firefox.
[02:26] <eyequeue> Warbo, file a bug yet?
[02:26] <jordan_> Warbo, i couldn't get it to find my sources.list file
[02:26] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I just offer support for all distros -- they're a like a lot so I can give support for most of them
[02:26] <HeathenDan> i personally use opera
[02:26] <cello_rasp> mcphail... larger memeory footprint != better programming
[02:26] <jordan_> how do you access files on a file server
[02:26] <_tcc> Can someone help me set up aircrack on this massive piece of garbage?
[02:26] <Warbo> eyequeue: Actually I have been scouring all of the .py files I can find, looking for the damn beckground section :)
[02:26] <dravas> Phenax how do you restart X
[02:26] <_tcc> http://www.turkeyfarm.net/blog/2006/06/22/cracking-wep-with-linux-actually-works/
[02:26] <SonicChao> _tcc: What?
[02:26] <_tcc> I am following that tutorial.
[02:26] <Phenax> dravas: ctrl+alt+backspace I believe
[02:27] <mcphail> cello_rasp: you have asked for something which looks and works better. Dillo looks lousy and works badly because it is a compromise on all fronts
[02:27] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, i mean comparing the irc rooms
[02:27] <_tcc> When I try to build it I get Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build does not exist.  Stop.
[02:27] <dravas> ok
[02:27] <_tcc> Why the hell is this?
[02:27] <SonicChao> dravas: Control+Alt+Backspace
[02:27] <SonicChao> !language > _tcc
[02:27] <w30> ToHellWithGA, plumbing is easy if you have a pocket full of cash, enough gas and do your work when the store is open.
[02:27] <_tcc> Heh, I try and keep it family friendly.
[02:27] <eyequeue> Warbo, if you find it, do let them know so others can benefit :) (a bug with a patch is always nice, heh)
[02:27] <Warbo> _tcc: You need linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[02:28] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Ahhh, the channel I usually hang out for the distro I use always has active moderators/developers helping people out. It's not big at all but it's quite nice.
[02:28] <Warbo> eyequeue: I have been programming Python for just over a week, so I feel a patch might do more harm than good :)
[02:28] <eyequeue> Warbo, lol
[02:28] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: But I agree, #ubuntu is quite nice.. mostly newb-helping-newb action, but that's good :)
[02:28] <ToHellWithGA> w30: are you any good with toilets? troubleshooting, not usage
[02:28] <eyequeue> Warbo, bug fixing is great for learning though, applause
[02:29] <_tcc> Warbo. thanks man\
[02:29] <Joseph> I have two partitions and I'm not sure which one is the Ubuntu Linux one... the ext3 or the ntfs?
[02:29] <Phenax> Joseph: ext3
[02:29] <w30> ToHellWithGA, google for Thomas J. Krapper
[02:29] <HeathenDan> ext3
[02:29] <Joseph> thank you
[02:29] <eyequeue> Joseph, the former
[02:29] <dsch04> Hi, can anyone point me at docs on howto install a Freecom DVB-T USB stick on 6.06 ?
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: You can most likely just mount it.
[02:30] <Warbo> ToHellWithGA: If it's toilet HUMOUR you're after, then I'm your man :)
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: You'll need the device name and filesystem type.
[02:30] <dsch04> Phenax: NO, it's a DVB-T tunder, not a storage device!
[02:30] <dsch04> (tuner)
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: No idea what that is xD
[02:30] <jaakkos> Phenax: ntfs is most likely used by windows. microsoft isn't releasing any info on the drive system, and by default ubuntu can only read the contents of your windows (ntfs) -drive. writing might cause serious problem with the partition, though for most people it works ok
[02:31] <w30> ToHellWithGA, er, google for Thomas J. Crapper
[02:31] <Phenax> jaakkos: Writing doesn't work at all unless your replacing something in a file that results to the same exact size. ntfs-3g (Kernel module) supports full r/w (Not fully stable) and Captive NTFS offers a slow interface into it..
[02:31] <__mikem> Thomas J. Crapper, he invented the toilet
[02:31] <dsch04> Phenax: http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=2234&CatID=&sCatID=
[02:32] <bkoby> Where are the .deb files from APT stored?
[02:32] <jaakkos> okay.
[02:32] <bimberi> bkoby: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:32] <HeathenDan> /var/cache/
[02:32] <profoX`> Phenax: ntfs-3g looks promising, captive-ntfs doesnt seem to be that good/stable at all, even though it uses the ntfs.sys
[02:32] <bkoby> bimberi: thanks!
[02:32] <HeathenDan> or that
[02:32] <SonicChao> bkoby: Tell me if you figure it out
[02:33] <bimberi> bkoby: np :)
[02:33] <jordan_> my favorite way to set up a dualboot is windows on ntfs partition, linux ext3, swap, and a large fat32 "media" partition with all of the files i want accessed by both
[02:33] <d_> is there a way to install grub mamually?
[02:33] <bimberi> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <SonicChao> d_: I would believe so
[02:33] <w30> __mikem, my biggest ambition in life is to have a bodily function named after me, like spit or anyyhing  :=)
[02:33] <bruenig> !patience > bruenig
[02:33] <profoX`> jordan_: yea although windows can read/write ext3 too with additional programs, and then you have journalling :)
[02:34] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey any1 here running arkhart on dapperdrake?
[02:34] <thedash> it apparently didn't recognize my win install, so it didn't install itself
[02:34] <eauxnguyen> I need to go w30 lol
[02:34] <Phenax> thedash: You'll have to edit the grub configuration.. I don't use GRUB but someone can help you with that.. maybe even the intarweb
[02:34] <Phenax> bbiab
[02:34] <jaakkos> and Phenax, the message was intended for joseph of course... who in addition had already quitted, so i guess it's time for me to go crouch in the corner :)
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> Any1 here running the game arkhart on dapperdrake?
[02:35] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, ask your question
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[02:35] <Phenax> jaakkos: Lol, I figured that but I like typing responses :D
[02:35] <jaakkos> :)
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> i need help runnign arkhart can any1 tell me how i run it i have already installed it
[02:35] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me changing the rights on a folder on hdb1?
[02:35] <saiko> i like gnome-baker
[02:35] <dravas> yay
[02:35] <Jbirk> Hi
[02:36] <Jbirk> How do I install and use wine?
[02:36] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, open a terminal and try arkhart
[02:36] <Flannel> Zambezi: where is hdb1 mounted?
[02:36] <bruenig> !wine
[02:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> like type .arkhart?
[02:36] <Zambezi> Flannel, /mnt/hdb1
[02:36] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, type "arkhart"
[02:36] <w30> eauxnguyen, In 50 years no one will remember Warren Buffet but after 150 years ole' Tomas J. is still being appealed to. ha
[02:36] <eauxnguyen> thanks for the x fix to all involved
[02:36] <FantasticFoo> whoohoo, finally got X working after that horrid update
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> command not found
[02:36] <Zambezi> Jbirk, sudo apt-get install wine is the beginning.
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> bruenig
[02:36] <eauxnguyen> hah
[02:37] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu...
[02:37] <NewtoUbuntu> yes?
[02:37] <Sarra_> I have a question
[02:37] <bruenig> you said my name
[02:37] <NewtoUbuntu> i said command not found
[02:37] <Sarra_> Is there a way to get Owner privs for a VFat partition?
[02:38] <bruenig> newtoubuntu, I am installing it now. I will see
[02:38] <eyequeue> Sarra_, man chown
[02:38] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thank u
[02:38] <Sarra_> chown has not worked
[02:38] <Warbo> Can I add attachments to launchpad bug reports (like a screenshot to illustrate the problem)?
[02:38] <Flannel> Sarra_: you need to change the umask
[02:38] <profoX`> Sarra_: yea sure you have to add options:
[02:38] <NewtoUbuntu> let me know after u have installed it please
[02:38] <profoX`> like umask=000
[02:38] <mrmojo> Hello
[02:38] <Sarra_> Okay
[02:38] <mrmojo> How does one pass an SSH password into the SSH command
[02:38] <profoX`> Sarra_: do you mount manually or through fstab ?
[02:39] <eyequeue> mrmojo, unwise, don't
[02:39] <mrmojo> and why would that be.
[02:39] <Sarra_> The drive is always mounted, unless I unmout it using umount
[02:39] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, I installed it via sudo apt-get install arkhart, I assume you did the same. And it was in the games menu under applications
[02:39] <w30> Sarra_, if your window has mounted it. it will be read only. Go to a console and unmout it and remount it from console.
[02:39] <eyequeue> mrmojo, man ssh for syntax etc, but it will show up in your ~/.bash_history if it is on the command line
[02:39] <NewtoUbuntu> no but i will do it that way
[02:39] <natural20> Certain webpages won't load for me, I've used FF, Epiphany, and Opera.  I know the pages work because I've tried them on different comps.  Any Ideas?
[02:39] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, how did you install it
[02:39] <Sarra_> w30: I've done that repeatedly, and it won't let me change anything on that partition
[02:39] <profoX`> Sarra_: please do: cat /etc/fstab and post the contents on www.pastebin.ca
[02:40] <mrmojo> i've looked at the manpages and i can't seem to figure a way out
[02:40] <rofl0r> how can i change back the language of ubuntu to english ? the german translations of many apps make them unusable
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> has anybody messed with XGL in here?
[02:40] <bruenig> natural20, give me a link to one such page
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> and compiz
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> i just ran the install.sh file
[02:40] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: whats wrong
[02:40] <eyequeue> mrmojo, perhaps you are looking for authorized_keys?
[02:40] <Flannel> FantasticFoo: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:40] <thedash> could somebody share with me what their winxp entry in grub looks like?
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> ill install it like u did
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> thank u
[02:40] <Sarra_> Okay, thanks profoX`
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> Flannel: oh, cool!
[02:40] <mrmojo> No. I want to do something like --password mypass
[02:40] <eyequeue> mrmojo, the -i switch is safe, in that circumstance
[02:40] <mrmojo> Ok.
[02:40] <natural20> bruenig, they are pages you need to be logged in or a member of, such as MyEbay or Yahoo Groups message boards.
[02:40] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, you should try to install as much as you can from the repositories. You can do that graphically in synaptic. System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager, or you can do it from the command line with apt-get
[02:41] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: I think #xgl has more people and most people there seem to use ubuntu anyway ;)
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, you don't want that, for the reason mentioned
[02:41] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: oh... ok!
[02:41] <cynical> thedash: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[02:41] <mrmojo> Believe me, I do. Is there a way to do it?
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, the authors say you don't, hence won't write it :)
[02:41] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[02:41] <mrmojo> So no?
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, right
[02:41] <mrmojo> Shitty.
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, no, it is for your own good
[02:42] <bruenig> natural20, can you give me a link. Because those pages might not display for a variety of reasons. The fact that you have to be logged into or a member of them would not affect thier ability to be displayed
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, what exactly do you need to accomplish?
[02:42] <mrmojo> No, it really isn't. I'm not a baby, I know what I'm doing. I want to automatically sftp the rsa password file to the remote server
[02:42] <natural20> bruenig, http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/epicduels/messages
[02:42] <profoX`> Sarra_: to mount manually you have to add -o umask=000, and if you want it to be done automatically you have to put the option "umask=000" in your /etc/fstab // if you don't know how, type: "cat /etc/fstab" and post the output of that command on www.pastebin.ca
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, why not use -i and a key?
[02:43] <xange> if you knew what you were doing then is there a point in asking for help?
[02:43] <mrmojo> Well, how do I do that keeping in mind that I have never connected to this server before?
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: i'll be in #xgl then, i guess
[02:43] <bruenig> natural20, what is not displaying on that, The top part (I ask because there is a flash animation there) or the entire page just won't load?
[02:43] <eyequeue> mrmojo, do you have an account on it, first?
[02:43] <mrmojo> Yes. With a password. That is it. I want to automatically set up a way to SFTP some files without any user intervention.
[02:44] <Jordan> I am having problems following these instructions http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[02:44] <eyequeue> mrmojo, ssh-keygen locally, then scp that file ... it will prompt for the passphrase
[02:44] <eternalswd> is anyone else having trouble accessing ubuntuforums.org?
[02:44] <Jordan> Yes I am
[02:44] <mrmojo> Prompt as in I have to type  the passphrase?
[02:44] <eyequeue> mrmojo, then append that to authorized_keys, such as this, if you need the help (don't be insulted)
[02:44] <Jordan> Now it's back I think ( Ubuntuforums.org)
[02:44] <cynical> eternalswd: I've been having problems all day
[02:45] <barikoki> Buenas noches!
[02:45] <profoX`> ubuntuforums is very slow so I think it's just a bad server/connection --> too many people visiting ubuntuforums
[02:45] <barikoki> Alguien puede ayudarme con el tema de las particiones?
[02:45] <mrmojo> eyequeue: does this at any point involve me having to type the password?
[02:45] <natural20> bruenig, without fail i can get to that page, but once i start to navigate portions not available to the public, the page fails to load.
[02:45] <eyequeue> mrmojo, ssh to the remote host, then: cat yourkeyfile >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[02:45] <Joseph> when asked to choose one of "dev/discs/disc0/partX" how do I know which partition has Ubuntu on?
[02:45] <Joseph> i know it is hda3 if that helps
[02:45] <swarm> ubuntu forums seems to work fine for me
[02:45] <Jordan> The Ubuntu forums slow down probably has to do with the xserver problems
[02:45] <eyequeue> mrmojo, if you ssh into the remote host, then yes, you type the passphrase the once (then you can disable it)
[02:45] <istealyermp3s> O:
[02:46] <eyequeue> mrmojo, and yes, also for that first scp
[02:46] <profoX`> Joseph: disc 0 part 2 I think
[02:46] <ikaruga> anyone know how to troubleshoot PHP?
[02:46] <Joseph> you... think? :P
[02:46] <orbin> Joseph: what's asking you that?
[02:46] <Jordan> I can't get internet in a chroot ( I need to to follow instructions posted here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453)
[02:46] <infamouse> i'm trying to mount a windows share and i'm recieving this error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //Beast/Music, missing codepage or other error".  I'm following exactly how the ubuntu guide tells me to do it, so what's wrong?
[02:46] <profoX`> Joseph: yea, i mean, thats the way grub does it with (hdx,y)
[02:47] <profoX`> and since it says disc 0
[02:47] <Zambezi> Flannel, Could you help me?
[02:47] <profoX`> it starts with 0 there too
[02:47] <vdepizzol> ubuntu edgy will come with what version of gaim?
[02:47] <profoX`> so I suppose part is y-1
[02:47] <Joseph> i am recovering GRUB after installing windows, and it asks me to choose my Ubuntu partition
[02:47] <profoX`> Joseph: I'd go for disc 0 part 2 :P
[02:47] <KenSentMe> vdepizzol: 2.0
[02:47] <Sarra_> I think I added the umask to fstab right
[02:47] <vdepizzol> KenSentMe: hmm.. ok
[02:47] <Joseph> ok, ill get one other persons say on it, before i do anything :P
[02:47] <natural20> so if i lead my message with someone's name, does irc highlight the message for that person?
[02:48] <profoX`> Sarra_: then umount the partition and type "sudo mount -a"
[02:48] <profoX`> Joseph: ok ;)
[02:48] <Sarra_> Ooh, glad I looked at it again, I made a typo
[02:48] <Joseph> orbin: do you know which partition will be the ubuntu one, then?
[02:48] <orbin> Joseph: he's right.
[02:48] <Joseph> oh ok
[02:48] <Joseph> thank you!
[02:48] <Joseph> lots!
[02:49] <orbin> Joseph: if / is on hda3 ...it'll be (hd0,2)
[02:49] <Joseph> yes thank you
[02:49] <KenSentMe> natural20: yes, and most irc chat programs have a autotype function, type the first letters of a name and press tab to complete the name
[02:49] <NewtoUbuntu> Bruenig, i have decided this game would run better on my ubuntu labtop so could u tell me hwo to uninstall it form this computer using the command line?
[02:49] <orbin> grub counts from zero like profoX` said
[02:50] <Jordan> Can anyone help me? # sudo ifup eth0
[02:50] <Jordan> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:50] <Sarra_> No workie
[02:50] <profoX`> orbin: yea grub, but i wasn't sure about the /dev/discs/disc0/partX - i suppose it starts part with 0 too because disc start with 0
[02:50] <profoX`> Sarra_: post the output of "cat /etc/fstab" on www.pastebin.ca
[02:51] <Sarra_> I think I will
[02:51] <Sarra_> Thanks
[02:51] <Jordan> sorry ifup eth0 gives me the error "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:51] <Jordan> "
[02:51] <ubuntu> i'm back didnt work sudo app/get update
[02:52] <argument> i've got an issue with my network freezing while using bittorrent - my router actually stops responding when I ping it's IP. if I shutdown the computer *and* power off the router... then power the router back on and then power my computer back on, network comes back just fine
[02:52] <NewtoUbuntu> Can any1 here tell me how to uninstall a game via the command line?
[02:52] <argument> but if I *just* power off the router and power it back on
[02:52] <argument> no amount of /etc/init.d/networking restart will actually unfreeze the network
[02:52] <profoX`> ubuntu: you mean: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:52] <profoX`> right?
[02:52] <argument> i still can't ping my router's IP
[02:52] <profoX`> Sarra_: so?
[02:52] <james_xxx> i am using a linksys wusb54g v.4 wireless adapter in kubuntu 6.06.1. i have it working, however... my computer occasionally locks up when i am surfing the internet, and i have to reboot. also, if the computer is left idle for a periiod of several hours, it often locks up and has to be rebooted. i do not know if these issues are even connected to the use of this wireless adapter....
[02:52] <swarm_> Does anyone know how to resume a torrent using the lynx torrent system?
[02:52] <profoX`> Sarra_: have you posted it on pastebin.ca
[02:52] <ubuntu> it says fatal server error no screens found
[02:52] <argument> is there any possibility there might be some ROM settings or something getting screwed up? can I flush my network card somehow?
[02:52] <james_xxx> i am looking at an ubuntu forum on the wusb54g wireless adapter (not the one i used to get mine working), and the person who wrote it has blacklisted some modules that i did not blacklist, so i am wondering if that might be an issue?
[02:53] <argument> swarm_, torrents auto resume by default
[02:53] <ubuntu> /usr/share/x11/fonts/cyrillic
[02:53] <profoX`> ubuntu: yea it was a wrong package. did you try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:53] <argument> swarm, i just use btdownloadcurses, if the folder is there it first checks the files to see what's been downloaded then keeps downloading from there
[02:53] <profoX`> ubuntu: that exact command?
[02:53] <swarm_> k
[02:53] <Jordan> I am new to IRC, is nobody responding to me because nobody knows how to help?
[02:53] <argument> swarm_, the gui's have been rather unstable for me
[02:54] <Sarra_> profoX`: I just did a few moments ago
[02:54] <argument> Jordan, there could be any number of reasons: moral of the story is "present your problem and wait"
[02:54] <swarm_> when using mininova, it gives u a www.mininova.org/get/32144
[02:54] <profoX`> Sarra_: welll... post me the link? ;) so i can look at it.. that was the point of pastebin
[02:54] <argument> Jordan, if it doesn't work, come back in a few hours
[02:54] <bruenig> is there any significance to where you put the .exe's when you are using wine. Should you put them in the appropriate part of the .wine directory or does it matter?
[02:54] <swarm_> how do u get a .torrent out of that?
[02:54] <Sarra_> http://pastebin.ca/145474
[02:54] <argument> swarm_, you download it
[02:54] <profoX`> Sarra_: thanks
[02:55] <Sarra_> Sure
[02:55] <Joseph> orbin: I tried to use part 2 but the background went red and gave me an error
[02:55] <bruenig> swarm, are you sure there is a torrent there. It may have been deleted
[02:55] <swarm_> brandon_, that was example
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: are you restoring it after a windows install or something?
[02:56] <Joseph> yes
[02:56] <disastorm> does anyone know how to install firefox32 on 64-bit
[02:56] <swarm_> http://www.mininova.org/get/337074
[02:56] <swarm_> to be exact
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: i'm deferring to the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:56] <bruenig> swarm_, when you click that link firefox should present you with a dialog asking you where to save it
[02:56] <bruenig> it does for me
[02:56] <Joseph> those instructions say i should know the number
[02:56] <argument> disastorm, there are methods... you can install it into a 32 bit chroot jail iirc
[02:56] <bruenig> if not, try right clicking on it and clicking save link as
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: looks like you just do /dev/hda3 if / is on that part.
[02:57] <argument> disastorm, try the wiki/forums
[02:57] <argument> disastorm, it's a common problem
[02:57] <Joseph> but im at step 5
[02:57] <Joseph> i am presented with:
[02:57] <swarm_> bruenig, i am doing this via a ssh session
[02:57] <Joseph> dev/discs/disc0/part1, dev/discs/disc0/part2, dev/discs/disc0/part3, dev/discs/disc0/part4 and dev/discs/disc0/part5
[02:57] <Joseph> to choose from
[02:57] <swarm_> where do i get bittorrenycurses?
[02:57] <swarm_> torrent
[02:57] <Flannel> swarm_: it's already installed, btdownloadcurses
[02:58] <argument> disastorm, don't PM people wihtout permission
[02:58] <orbin> Joseph: ah, choose part3 then, sorry.
[02:58] <janubuntu> has anyone had problems with the updated xserver-xorg-core?
[02:58] <argument> disastorm, besides, you never know, i might be walking out the door in 5 minutes and then if you depend on JUST me for your answer that's kinda lame
[02:58] <Flannel> janubuntu: see topic
[02:58] <Joseph> definitely sure? :P
[02:58] <swarm_> hmmm
[02:58] <argument> janubuntu, like what?
[02:58] <orbin> Joseph: grub itself enters the partition counting from zero ... the installer seems to refer counting from 1
[02:58] <swarm_> that's the client lynx seems to use
[02:58] <swarm_> ok, now....
[02:58] <Joseph> yes it does
[02:59] <Joseph> ok
[02:59] <Joseph> so 3
[02:59] <Joseph> thanks
[02:59] <disastorm> what is the red msg text
[02:59] <orbin> Joseph: quite.  good luck
[02:59] <Joseph> =] 
[02:59] <swarm_> how do i download the .torrent file from btdownloadcurses at the command line?
[02:59] <janubuntu> i get a no screens error in the xorg log
[02:59] <swarm_> er
[02:59] <swarm_> i mean
[02:59] <swarm_> http://www.mininova.org/get/337074
[02:59] <janubuntu> Flannel how do i do that?
[02:59] <bruenig> swarm_, mininova has a weird setup whereby it wont allow you to download torrents from links. You have to actually go to its page and then click on it. It wants you to visit its site I suppose in  order to gain ad revenues. For instance, if you were to put that link up on another page and click on it. It wouldn't download the torrent it would automatically redirect you to a page where you click on a link to download it. That might 
[02:59] <orbin> janubuntu: what xserver-xorg-core version are you running?
[02:59] <disastorm> hey has anyone here installed fire fox 32 bit on a 64 bit system
[03:00] <user01> hi im going to visit my sister who is having problems with her buslink external cd drive.... i know i was able to burn wav files onto a cd the last time i was there...are there are recommended steps for troubleshooting?
[03:00] <swarm_> hmm.
[03:00] <swarm_> lame
[03:00] <swarm_> :\
[03:00] <swarm_> can i transfer files using ssh?
[03:00] <swarm_> from my computer to the host computer
[03:00] <swarm_> or do i have to use ftp?
[03:00] <eyequeue> swarm, sort of.  use scp
[03:00] <swarm_> scp?
[03:00] <janubuntu> orbin 1:1.02-0ubuntu10.4
[03:00] <Jordan> I am trying to install Lilo from the Ubuntu liveCD ( I have already installed Ubuntu but can't boot into it without LILO ) I have chrooted into my Ubuntu installation and tried to apt-get install lilo but I can't get an internet within the chroot. Can I use apt-get normally from the liveCD to get a .deb file that I can install from within the chroot. I am trying to follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showt
[03:00] <Jordan> hread.php?t=198453
[03:00] <user01> she says all the audio is garbled
[03:00] <eyequeue> swarm, the command name is all that differs, it uses ssh protocol
[03:00] <user01> and it doesnt even burn in serpentine
[03:01] <argument> has anyone here had bittorrent lock up their network such that only a full powerdown/powerup of both router+computer will fix it?
[03:01] <Jordan> argument: I have
[03:01] <eyequeue> swarm, scp filename remotehost:/path/to/destination
[03:02] <janubuntu> orbin not sure that that is precisely right
[03:02] <orbin> janubuntu: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[03:02] <jerrdale> Well, I have recovered from the damage done by the update, that royally sucked!
[03:02] <swarm_> hmmmmmm
[03:03] <orbin> janubuntu: which version is installed?
[03:03] <argument> Jordan, and the corrollary of that being do you know how to fix it?
[03:03] <Jordan> argument:  No, sorry
[03:03] <jerrdale> yes, it can be fixed
[03:03] <janubuntu> orbin just a sec have to switch to the problem pc brb
[03:03] <swarm_> just bring up a > symbol
[03:04] <user01> is there a general procedure to fix cd buring issues ?
[03:04] <tomasz27> is there an update to the x server problem?
[03:04] <eyequeue> tomasz27, /topic, and yes
[03:05] <tomasz27> cuz I see )ubuntu10.4
[03:05] <eyequeue> tomasz27, 10.4 is the fix
[03:05] <tomasz27> so it is ok to update the OS?
[03:05] <Joseph> orbin: I chose partition 3 and it continued. I then entered the following command line as it said:
[03:05] <eyequeue> tomasz27, yes
[03:05] <tomasz27> thank u
[03:05] <Joseph> orbin: grub-install /dev/hda3
[03:05] <bruenig> it is ok to install that update you say?
[03:05] <user01> should i just try reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:06] <tomasz27> yes, it is ok
[03:06] <Joseph> orbin: it then told me about an error that could be ignored, then something about xfs-freeze (or something) and said that installation was complete
[03:06] <janubuntu> orbin installed is 10.3 but says candidate is 10.4
[03:06] <bruenig> ok, I am going to trust you on that
[03:06] <Joseph> orbin: i restarted and nothing happened
[03:06] <orbin> janubuntu: apt-get upgrade
[03:06] <orbin> janubuntu: put a sudo in front of that
[03:06] <orbin> janubuntu: 10.3's the broken one
[03:07] <janubuntu> orbin ok ty veryu much
[03:07] <swarm_> is there a ftp server enabled by default?
[03:07] <user01> is there another channel i should be on for cd burning issues in ubuntu?
[03:07] <dmsantam> swarm_, no
[03:07] <FRET> what is the command to get the ubuntu version?
[03:07] <swarm_> darn :(
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> o.O
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> fret
[03:07] <swarm_> need to put a file from my ubuntu distro on another computer
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> version of what ?
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> uname -r
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> try that
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> or uname -a
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> IO:
[03:07] <istealyermp3s> O:
[03:08] <FRET> istealyermp3s, that gives me the version of the kernel
[03:08] <Joseph> orbin: can you help?
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> do the second one
[03:08] <dmsantam> FRET, cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> Linux dapper 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> seee that ????
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> im on version dapper
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> which is ubuntu 6.06
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> what do you get for unmae -a
[03:08] <FRET> dmsantam, that's it, thx
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.06
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> DISTRIB_CODENAME=dapper
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"
[03:08] <istealyermp3s> o:
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> or that
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> nice dmsantam
[03:09] <dmsantam> :)
[03:09] <vapermonkey00> hey thanks for the help that worked (no screen)
[03:09] <FRET> istealyermp3s, my output from uname -a is differnt
[03:09] <orbin> Joseph: ok, i'm no expert, but i'm assuming that it's installing grub to the partition, but you need to overwrite the windows mbr
[03:09] <dmsantam> uname -a is for kernel version
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> fret yes i know
[03:09] <dmsantam> a little different :)
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> but it has the dapper in there
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> dmsantam, yeah
[03:09] <BrokenPipe> Is there a problem with the AMD64 Install CD? It just freezes on my system after it says it's loading the kernel.
[03:09] <Joseph> orbin: how do i do that?
[03:09] <istealyermp3s> but with ubuntu it still has the distro name there
[03:09] <FRET> istealyermp3s, not here
[03:09] <dmsantam> nor here
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> fret what exactly is your output of 'uname -a'
[03:10] <orbin> Joseph: you have the install cd right?  can you use a browser now?  look at this section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-d24e9ed91fd47ac6f436756da4a565afbe5762ec
[03:10] <FRET> istealyermp3s, Linux FRET 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:10] <bruenig> it only gives kernel
[03:10] <Joseph> ahh
[03:10] <dmsantam> istealyermp3s, yours is not saying dapper
[03:10] <superjew9020> how do i change default apps in ubuntu
[03:10] <swarm_> good ftp server?
[03:10] <Joseph> so i follow these steps?
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> not uname -r
[03:10] <dmsantam> it's saying your HOSTNAME is dapper
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> uname -a
[03:10] <Jordan> How can I get the LILO .deb file from apt-get
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> oooooooooooo
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> o yeh
[03:10] <dmsantam> ;)
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> shit forgot its like that
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> lol
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> er
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> sh1t i emant
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> ~_~
[03:10] <superjew9020> how do i change default apps in ubuntu?????????
[03:10] <istealyermp3s> oops even
[03:10] <dmsantam> it was a good effort anyway hehe
[03:10] <orbin> Joseph: i'd try that, yes....just remember like it says, don't format the partitions or you'll lose the install
[03:11] <istealyermp3s> system > preferences > default applications superjew9020
[03:11] <mainer> to wipe win from /mbr use a dos/windows boot-floppy or cd fdisk /mbr then install grub
[03:11] <bruenig> superjew9020, you curse the gnome developers and deal with it
[03:11] <eyequeue> superjew9020, you have some file, eifgt ckick on it and associate another app
[03:11] <Verithrax> Hey, thanks for the help earlier.
[03:11] <istealyermp3s> or what eyequeue said
[03:11] <janubuntu> orbin thank you worked like a charm very very much appreciated
[03:11] <eyequeue> superjew9020, right click
[03:11] <dravas> !nvidia
[03:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <d00by> Hey I need help! the update for xorg trashed my install
[03:11] <orbin> janubuntu: welcome
[03:11] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix
[03:11] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[03:11] <eauxnguyen> tell eauxnguyen /sound
[03:11] <istealyermp3s> right click > properties > open with tab > select preferred app
[03:11] <eyequeue> d00by, /topic
[03:12] <eauxnguyen> ok worth a try
[03:12] <Joseph> orbin: are the partions in step 4 not already mounted if i have linux installed?
[03:12] <d00by> eyequeue, you and your silly reading :)
[03:12] <Joseph> orbin: if not, how do i mount them at the manual partition screen?
[03:12] <Verithrax> Unfortunately, the new Xorg server crashed irretrievably after that, but going into restore mode and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked.
[03:12] <eauxnguyen> any ideas on getting sound running on a thinkpad t20? worked using the ubuntu guide fix on 5.10 and now no worky on dapper
[03:12] <tomasz27> does the update applies to a brand new download of the ISO as well?
[03:12] <superjew9020> uhh where do i right clik
[03:13] <bruenig> superjew9020, on the file whose default app you want to change
[03:13] <Jordan> How do I just get a .deb file from apt? As in to use on another machine without an internet connection.
[03:13] <eyequeue> superjew9020, places > home filder, for example
[03:13] <orbin> Joseph: i can't say for certain...but i think it should "mount" them for you ... it should have the diagram of partitions on the disk
[03:13] <superjew9020> how do i make xmms my default mp3 player
[03:13] <eyequeue> superjew9020, that app is called nautilus, and any place that is open you can do this
[03:13] <superjew9020> how do i make xmms my default mp3 player
[03:14] <orbin> superjew9020: <istealyermp3s> right click > properties > open with tab > select preferred app
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> O:
[03:14] <eyequeue> superjew9020, click on an mp3, then associate xmms
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> i got quoted!
[03:14] <orbin> superjew9020: in nautilus
[03:14] <superjew9020> will it do that to all of them
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> yes
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> for each extention it does that
[03:14] <janubuntu> BlueEagle just wanted to say i found out what that usb1 is on tha pc
[03:14] <Joseph> orbin: it has a list of the different partitions
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> video files for instance:
[03:14] <Joseph> orbin: and you can select each one and edit it
[03:14] <janubuntu> BlueEagle i was just jan the other day
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> avi // mkv // ogg // mp4 are all considered seperate
[03:14] <istealyermp3s> :)
[03:14] <eauxnguyen> any ideas on sound on a thinkpad? followed the ubuntu guide with no joy
[03:15] <istealyermp3s> eauxnguyen,
[03:15] <istealyermp3s> first do you have a mixer of some sort ?
[03:15] <orbin> Joseph: right...IIRC, when you go to the next step, there are checkboxes saying "format?"
[03:15] <istealyermp3s> i prefer alsamixer
[03:15] <swarm_> un-mute :P
[03:15] <orbin> Joseph: uncheck them obviously
[03:15] <Joseph> orbin: well it gives you an option to format
[03:15] <istealyermp3s> secondly did you put in support for the file u need to play... restriced codecs  for instance
[03:15] <Joseph> orbin: there are other options too
[03:15] <orbin> !sound > eauxnguyen
[03:15] <Joseph> orbin: will one be to mount?
[03:15] <BlueEagle> janubuntu: well, are you gonna tell me?
[03:16] <orbin> Joseph: are you in the installer right now?
[03:16] <janubuntu> BlueEagle it was a PC to PC network thing on the mothetrboard
[03:16] <Joseph> orbin: no, i am having to switch between the installer and windows
[03:16] <bruenig> jordan, you can download the .deb from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/, that has all of the packages in the repos. There probably is a way to do it with apt-get but I don't care to figure that out right now
[03:16] <BlueEagle> janubuntu: o'rly? Well there you go. :)
[03:16] <John[1] > Can someone tell me waht to add or comment out in the sources.list to get the latest and greatest update and fix my desktop not installing issue?
[03:16] <FRET> good night all
[03:17] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell john[1]  about easysource
[03:17] <janubuntu> BlueEagle at leats that puzzle is solved
[03:17] <d00by> eyequeue, I LOVE YOU! YOU ARE MY NEW HERO!
[03:17] <orbin> Joseph: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[03:17] <BlueEagle> janubuntu: ;D
[03:17] <eyequeue> d00by, groovy
[03:17] <orbin> Joseph: you need to mount the partitions yourself (see post 8)
[03:17] <Joseph> orbin: ok thanks, ill take a look at that
[03:18] <rmd> why does scienceblogs.com kill firefox?
[03:18] <sethk> rmd, doesn't kill mine
[03:18] <rmd> of course
[03:18] <rmd> god hates me
[03:18] <profoX`> rmd: excessive flash maybe? it works fine here
[03:18] <sethk> rmd, there have been several people tonight with firefox issues
[03:19] <sethk> rmd, not just you
[03:19] <orbin> John[1] : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main  has the update
[03:19] <chris__> hi i built Xfce, how do i let gdm know about it so I can select it?
[03:19] <sethk> rmd, getting segmentation violations
[03:19] <eyequeue> anf flash and firefox have always been iffy for some people
[03:19] <Flannel> chris__: it should already be in there, is it not?
[03:19] <sethk> rmd, it's possible that I don't see it because I installed from mozilla.org instead of using the packages
[03:19] <orbin> chris__: it should be in the sessions menu
 thanks, no mixer found. maybe that's the problem heh
[03:19] <chris__> no its not there
[03:19] <orbin> chris__: how did you install it?
[03:19] <chris__> i built it in /home/chris/local
[03:19] <Flannel> chris__: under session?
[03:19] <profoX`> eyequeue: yea i think its because of aoss that people experience problems with firefox+flash
[03:19] <profoX`> eyequeue: i'm going to test more tonight
[03:20] <sethk> profoX`, I'm not sure that's really the story, but it is likely part of it
[03:20] <thompa> i want to backup one dvd, is copy disc to disk image what i want to do?
[03:20] <orbin> chris__: you built xfce from source?
[03:20] <chris__> i used the installer to build it
[03:20] <orbin> why not just grab it from apt?
[03:20] <BlueEagle> john[1] : You're desktop is not "installing"?
[03:20] <bruenig> aoss always made firefox crash when I used it for flash. It allowed me to have flash and another app with sound going at the same time. But after I watched the animation. It always crashed. I did away with it and now it doesn't crash. I can't have the mixing anymore but that is better than crashing
[03:20] <profoX`> sethk: well epiphany worked fine, and i did aoss epiphany, and it crashed like it did on firefox today..
[03:21] <sethk> BlueEagle, your,   you're means you are
[03:21] <azathoth> for some reason, sound stops working after a few hours in ubuntu...
[03:21] <profoX`> bruenig: exactly! i found that out now
[03:21] <sethk> profoX`, that's interesting
[03:21] <profoX`> sethk: yes, very
[03:21] <BlueEagle> sethk: You are most right. Again it's 3:22 am here and I'm having a beer. :)
[03:21] <azathoth> what can i use to find out whether it's a driver issue or what
[03:21] <azathoth> ?
[03:21] <sethk> profoX`, but I'm not certain that is the only thing making firefox crash
[03:21] <profoX`> sethk: in combination with flash you mean?
[03:22] <profoX`> well.. flash IS pretty dumb by design :)
[03:22] <KenSentMe> azathoth: maybe there's an error message in /var/log/syslog
[03:22] <chris__> should i have choosen a differnt directory when the installer asked other than the default of /home/chris/local ?
[03:22] <sethk> profoX`, yes, there have been some problems reported with web sites that use the flash plugin
[03:22] <bruenig> chris__, you should have done it via apt
[03:22] <chris__> uhhh i was going after 4.4
[03:22] <sethk> profoX`, I am using KDE so that may also explain why I see different things in some cases
[03:22] <swarm_> ok, btdownloadcurses worked
[03:23] <azathoth> hmmm... youtube video's play sound fine
[03:23] <profoX`> sethk: kde is good :)
[03:23] <swarm_> but it was at 80% before, now 8%
[03:23] <swarm_> :\
[03:23] <azathoth> but normal sounds (even default system sounds_ don' work... lemme check the log
[03:23] <Flannel> swarm_: would the first one have been the torrent file downloading?
[03:23] <sethk> chris__, you can add it to gdm, but it's a bit complicated
[03:23] <swarm_> Flannel, what do you mean?
[03:24] <azathoth> nothing in the log
[03:24] <Jordan> Somebody has to know how to get a .deb file from apt, I can't believe it's that hard. Do I need to clarify my question?
[03:24] <chris__> according to ubuntuguide.org (which i followed) "    *  finally to enable Xfce, you may need to enable it on the desktop manager (mark allow Xfce manage desktop)"
[03:24] <chris__> not sure what that means lol
[03:24] <Flannel> swarm_: the first 80% mightve been it downloading the torrent file
[03:24] <bruenig> Jordan, doing sudo apt-get -d install whatever, will only download whatever. I don't know where it stores it but it downloads it somewhere
[03:25] <sethk> chris__, that's assuming you installed the package.  you built it, so it's a bit more work than that for gdm to see it
[03:25] <smo> bruenig: most likely /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:25] <Dev05> Jordan, when you download and intall deb packs, they are in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[03:25] <swarm_> Flannel, nah, it was at 2.8gb of 3.2gb
[03:25] <chris__> whats the apt package to get?
[03:25] <Flannel> chris__: xubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <bruenig> smo, you are correct sir
[03:25] <Jordan> bruenig:  Dev05: Thanks.
[03:25] <chris__> oh yeah.. duh
[03:25] <chris__> hehe thanks
[03:26] <chris__> guess ill just go that route, thanks :)
[03:26] <chris__> im installing now
[03:26] <orbin> chris__: or xfce4 if you want the streamlined option
[03:28] <bruenig> is there any reason to keep all of those debs archived?
[03:28] <azathoth> hmmm, totem says the sound is in use by another app
[03:28] <azathoth> but there's nothign else using it
[03:28] <azathoth> how can i change engine so it can use multiple audio streams?
[03:28] <azathoth> i'm in gnome btw
[03:28] <sethk> bruenig, it's documentation of what's on your system
[03:28] <bruenig> sethk, and that is important...
[03:28] <bruenig> ?
[03:29] <sethk> bruenig, you can certainly envision situations where you might need to know.
[03:29] <sethk> bruenig, routinely, probably not.
[03:29] <thanatos_> where is the .xinitrc file?
[03:29] <sethk> bruenig, but if you find you have a problem that other people aren't having, the next step is to compare the state of your system to others
[03:29] <sethk> thanatos_, usually in $HOME
[03:29] <bruenig> perhaps, I always made a habit of apt-get cleaning
[03:29] <sethk> thanatos_, I believe there is also a global one...
[03:30] <danmorg> found my problem with ubuntu shutting down randomly: Aug 20 23:52:27 danpc kernel: [4295267.313000]  Critical temperature reached (-264 C), shutting down.
[03:30] <bruenig> i don't know why
[03:30] <baconbacon> bacon@laptop-bacon:~$ locate xinitrc
[03:30] <baconbacon> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[03:30] <sethk> thanatos_, yes, there is /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[03:30] <sethk> thanatos_, note, no dot in front of the global one
[03:30] <danmorg> any ideas on how to get the kernel to ignore that?
[03:31] <AdamKrier> danmorg: are you sure you are definitely not overheating?
[03:31] <sethk> danmorg, you can ignore it, but are you sure you want to?
[03:32] <danmorg> sethk, never had a problem running windows.  besides, its a cheap pc i bought. eMachines.
[03:32] <TheMafiaa> I want to install ubuntu on my new laptop, do I download the live cd and install from that?
[03:32] <sethk> danmorg, meaning you don't care if it melts?
[03:32] <lispy> i just found out some versions of ubuntu are still shipping darcs 1.0.5, but 1.0.5 has two rather serious bugs.  http://www.abridgegame.org/pipermail/darcs-users/2006-February/009694.html  who do i contact to let them know they should update the package?
[03:32] <sethk> TheMafiaa, yes
[03:32] <danmorg> ok.  you can quit laughing about eMachines now :)
[03:32] <TheMafiaa> sethk, thanks
[03:32] <bruenig> The Mafiaa, you need to download the live cd and burn it to disk
[03:32] <danmorg> sethk, pretty much.  any ideas?
[03:32] <ircleuser> Ubuntu is getting HUGE! I keep seeing it on Digg.com. It's becoming very popular!
[03:33] <TheMafiaa> ircleuser, I am a very long time redhat/fedora user and I am taking the plunge because of all the good things I have heard
[03:33] <sethk> danmorg, I believe you can turn it off with sysctl
[03:33] <sethk> ircleuser, it is, but you don't need to install packages you don't use
[03:34] <ircleuser> Sethk: I don't mean huge as in "megabytes". Lol.
[03:34] <wickers> anyone here notice a slow down when moving from the default kernel to the i686 kernel?
[03:35] <sethk> ircleuser, oh, you mean number of users.  I like it and I've used just about all the major distros
[03:35] <John[1] > Okay, I got the source-o-matic list.  How can I get this on my ubuntu server?
[03:35] <AdamKrier> wickers, no, nothing noticable
[03:35] <sethk> wickers, I haven't personally but I've talked to several people who have
[03:35] <sethk> wickers, what processor?
[03:35] <AdamKrier> wickers, i didn't notice a speed-up either, though
[03:35] <ircleuser> Sethk: When it comes time to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Eft, will we be able to do that with Update Manger?
[03:35] <wickers> Pentium M
[03:35] <wickers> Centrino platform.
[03:35] <ircleuser> *manager
[03:36] <sethk> ircleuser, yes
[03:36] <sethk> wickers, that's not the processor I've seen the issue with
[03:36] <sethk> wickers, what, specifically, is slowing?
[03:36] <wickers> what is?
[03:36] <sethk> wickers, an amd processor
[03:36] <wickers> Gnome, application startup times, UI interactions.
[03:36] <jmac__> Warning, Installed the xorg update and it killed X
[03:37] <wickers> sethk... well you should not be using i686 for an amd processor.
[03:37] <wickers> ;)
[03:37] <jmac__> I had to roll back
[03:37] <ircleuser> sethk: Cool
[03:37] <sethk> wickers, that's odd.  when you boot the old, i386 kernel, it goes away?
[03:37] <jmac__> known bug
[03:37] <ircleuser> Does anyone know how to get Dapper running on an iMac G5?
[03:37] <sethk> wickers, of course not, but there are compatibility claims from amd ...
[03:37] <Jbirk> Se
[03:37] <Jbirk> Download the Power PC version of it
[03:37] <keithhhhh> Is there any software to connect to windows Remote Assistance
[03:37] <keithhhhh> ?
[03:37] <jmac__> gnome-rdp
[03:37] <jmac__> or tsclient
[03:37] <wickers> sethk, well i have not tied going back yet, but I've noticed that on two different installs it gets noticabily sluggish after swaping out the kernel.
[03:37] <ircleuser> Jbirk: It doesn't work on iMac G5s as far as I know. Many people have had trouble with it.
[03:37] <sethk> keithhhhh, not that I've come across
[03:38] <Jbirk> Oh
[03:38] <Jbirk> Ouch
[03:38] <keithhhhh> sethk: oh man its an essential app for my friend transfering over
[03:38] <Jbirk> Terminal Server Client 0.140
[03:38] <Jbirk> www.rdesktop.org
[03:39] <BlueEagle> !anyone
[03:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:39] <sethk> keithhhhh, possibly you can run it under wine
[03:39] <sethk> Jbirk, I don't think he means terminal server
[03:39] <ubuntu> Hi there
[03:39] <AdamKrier> what apps/libs are needed to play .mp4, if possible?
[03:39] <keithhhhh> sethk: Ill mention it to him
[03:39] <Jbirk> http://www.rdesktop.org/#status
[03:39] <Jbirk> Awsome client
[03:39] <mikul> how do i activate my network card, (eth0)?  is there anything like the command net-setup in ubuntu? or how do i do it? cause dhclient dosent work, just getting No DHCPOFFERS received
[03:40] <Jbirk> it can do VNC
[03:40] <ubuntu> I have a slight problem. I am trying to install Ubuntu on a RAID1 array on nForce 4 SATA, and during the partition part, the drives show up as seperate drives. What should I do?
[03:40] <rsk> gah, where does one get gmake
[03:40] <Flannel> ubuntu: use the alternate ISO
[03:40] <ircleuser> Is it possible to run Ubuntu on an iMac G5?
[03:40] <sethk> rsk, make on linux is gmake
[03:41] <rsk> sethk, ok but i dont have the command gmake
[03:41] <sethk> rsk    ln -s /bin/make /bin/gmake
[03:41] <IcemanV9> mikul: sudo ifup eth0
[03:41] <rsk> and i need it for compile
[03:41] <Epoch71> hey, i have a problem
[03:41] <sethk> rsk, sorry, ln /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake
[03:41] <Jbirk> YOu have to install the compiler tools
[03:41] <Epoch71> i installed ubuntu a few days ago, it ran fine other than some wrestling with fglrx
[03:41] <ubuntu> Flannel: The alternate iso? Does it have a name, or is that it's name?
[03:41] <sethk> Jbirk, no, he needs it with the name gmake, he already has make
[03:41] <Epoch71> i had fglrx installed and it was working fine, i'd rebooted it with those settings a few times
[03:41] <Flannel> ubuntu: that is its name, it'll be downloadable from the same place you got the desktop iso
[03:41] <rsk> alright
[03:42] <rsk> o/
[03:42] <Epoch71> then it updated something and gdm stopped working
[03:42] <Jbirk> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:42] <sethk> Jbirk, that's not what he needs
[03:42] <ubuntu> I got it with a magazine, but I'll find it. Thanks!
[03:42] <sethk> Jbirk, you aren't listening
[03:42] <Epoch71> gave me a no devices found/no screens error, i tried rebuilding xorg.conf with dexconf, no luck
[03:42] <_tcc> What is the name of the ncurses package?
[03:42] <sethk> Epoch71, see topic for fix
[03:42] <sethk> _tcc, ncurses, I think, let me check
[03:42] <Epoch71> oh
[03:42] <Epoch71> haha
[03:42] <default> how do i stop gnome from starting at startup?
[03:43] <ubuntu> Flannel: Oh, do you mean the one with the text-based installer?
[03:43] <Flannel> ubuntu: right
[03:43] <Dev05> !tell Epoch71 about xorgbug
[03:43] <Jbirk> sudo apt-get install gcc gmail
[03:43] <_tcc> I am trying to run airodump-ng and the damn thing just sits there.
[03:43] <Jbirk> sorry I meant gmake
[03:43] <ubuntu> Cool, then I have it! Thanks again!
[03:43] <_tcc> It clears the terminal and does nothing.
[03:43] <swarm_> bittorrentcurses for the win :)
[03:43] <eauxnguyen> need sound help with streaming radio on my thinkpad. Sound works on video
[03:43] <sethk> Jbirk, he has make already.  he needs the _name_ gmake
[03:43] <mikul> IcemanV9, id dosent seam to work :S
[03:43] <sethk> Jbirk, you aren't listening
[03:44] <_tcc> sethk?
[03:44] <sethk> _tcc, hold on a second ...
[03:44] <_tcc> ok
[03:44] <John[1] > Where can I go to donload athe lastest ubuntu dapper server that has all the fixes on it, so I do not have to keep trying do and update to no avail?
[03:44] <mikul> IcemanV9, getting NO DHCPOFFERS Received
[03:44] <sethk> _tcc, libncurses5
[03:44] <Jbirk> It is time for a movie and a nap.  I slept 4 hours last night, have been up 16 and haven't eaten since I woke up
[03:44] <mikul> all the time
[03:44] <sethk> _tcc, that's in breezy, but I don't believe it has changed in dapper
[03:45] <BlueEagle> !info airodump-ng
[03:45] <Epoch71> thanks, i'll go try that fix
[03:45] <ubotu> Package airodump-ng does not exist in dapper
[03:45] <avis> Jbirk, it happens.  we are linux users.  sleep well.
[03:45] <IcemanV9> mikul: wireless or wired?
[03:45] <mikul> IcemanV9, wired
[03:46] <default> how do i stop gnome from starting at startup?
[03:46] <sethk> default, remove it from the things started for run level 2
[03:46] <Once> !xorgbug > Once
[03:47] <keithhhhh> my friend has a notebook with a broken cdrom and cant boot from USB,  any ideas how he can install ubuntu?
[03:47] <IcemanV9> wired? hm. sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[03:47] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > ONce
[03:47] <eauxnguyen> aplay sees the card, the alsa mixer has nothing muted..
[03:47] <eauxnguyen> still no sound
[03:47] <default> how
[03:47] <mikul> IcemanV9, i have a router with dhcp server, but i dont get any offers when i try to use dhclient or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:48] <judari_> question: I would like to install Dapper on a system that has Suse and Windows on it. Will Dapper recognise those installations and allow you to setup another partition for Dapper? or does it just install over those os' ?
[03:48] <Once> bruenig: Thank you
[03:48] <sethk> judari_, it will allow you to install without touching the existing partitions
[03:49] <Flannel> judari_: use the alternate ISO, it'll give you more flexibility
[03:49] <IcemanV9> mikul: i have the same setup as well. what did 'ifconfig' said? eth0, eth1 or whatever it said on your screen.
[03:49] <eauxnguyen> tell eaxnguyen sound
[03:49] <orbin> doesn't it depend if he has free space or not?
[03:49] <d4rky> one question - any old, warty warthog erotic wallpapers for perverted n00b?
[03:50] <d4rky> ;p
[03:50] <default> how do i remove gnome from the things started for run level 2?
[03:50] <Dysk> anyone know if there's an X application which will print out the keyboard events it receives?
[03:50] <sethk> orbin, not exactly.  it will still give you the question about whether or not to overwrite
[03:50] <Dysk> I'm trying to figure out what the scancodes are on my laptop keyboard.
[03:50] <sethk> orbin, if you say no, and there is no space, of course the install stops
[03:51] <sethk> orbin, but it doesn't automatically use space because there is no free space
[03:51] <dredhammer> hello can anyone point in the right direction to complile the latest mimms 2.0.1
[03:51] <natural20> bruening, do you remember my question from before? if so, am i asking the wrong questions - is it something not related to my browser?
[03:51] <sethk> Dysk, run the xev app, put the cursor in its box, and type keys
[03:51] <mikul> IcemanV9, ifconfig gives me eth0 and lo. eth0 have no ip because it dosent get any from dhclient
[03:51] <pydj> Does Ubuntu's remote desktop work remotely?  I can get it to work when both computers are on the same network, but not from different states.  I may need some kind of remote desktop from other country soon, but how to do it?  There could be several computers on the same IP address that I'm trying to connect to.
[03:51] <orbin> sethk: ah i see
[03:51] <_tcc> What is a good way to control a "remote" Linux box graphically?
[03:51] <_tcc> VNC sort of blows.
[03:51] <Dysk> sethk, Thanks!
[03:51] <judari_> thanks sethk, Flannel, which ISO?  I only have the Dapper cd someone gave me. If I use that disc (the live cd w/ install) how does it mess with the mbr?  I have grub on it that SusE installed. Will Dapper just add itself to it, or will it add it's own menu ?
[03:51] <pydj> _tcc: same question here...
[03:51] <_tcc> And by good, I mean, it WORKS................
[03:52] <default> _tcc, webmin
[03:52] <_tcc> pydj, we could use SSH X forwarding, but that's too much for what i want
[03:52] <Flannel> judari_: the liveCD gives you less flexibility, you'll get better partitioning/control/etc with the alternate ISO, including not touching grub and allowing you to add it later, etc
[03:52] <pydj> _tcc: how does that work?  I just need to control someone's desktop to save explanation time...
[03:52] <NkuMik1> Can someone help me get my internet connection up on ubuntu?
[03:53] <pydj> NkuMik1: ask away...
[03:53] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell nkumik1 about anyone
[03:53] <_tcc> I think you just edit the sshd config and launch a graphical application with the shell.
[03:53] <eauxnguyen> ubotu tell eauxnguyen about sound
[03:53] <_tcc> Allow X forwarding.
[03:53] <ryanakca> is the wiki down?
[03:54] <rmd> ryanakca: always
[03:54] <NkuMik1> I'm not sure what the problem is.. it recognizes my atheros wireless adapter it sees my wireless network I tell it to activate the ath0 and tell it to connect to my wireless network but it seems to do nothing.  The network thing in the top corner just stays at lo
[03:54] <damian_> how do I upgrade to kernel 2.6.17?
[03:55] <_tcc> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X-forwarding
[03:55] <pydj> _tcc: I'll have to look into it.  Might work...
[03:55] <_tcc> pydj
[03:55] <profoX`> damian_: why do you have to?
[03:55] <_tcc> Yup.
[03:55] <sethk> pydj, you can't control a desktop with an ssh connection
[03:55] <profoX`> dapper doesn't supply .17
[03:55] <witless> i guess i need to rebuild my nvidia driver after the xorg update today?
[03:55] <profoX`> not by default anyway
[03:55] <damian_> profoX: supposedly bcm43xx only works with 2.6.17 kernel
[03:55] <profoX`> witless: I read so yes
[03:55] <charlie01> where i can get maps from brazil for palm T|X??????????????///
[03:55] <sethk> pydj, you can run applications from that machine onto another x display using ssh
[03:55] <pydj> sethk: any other suggestoins?
[03:55] <profoX`> damian_: broadcom? are you sure?
[03:55] <judari_> Flannel, is there a particular name for this alternate iso ? or is just called "alternate iso" ? ;)
[03:55] <profoX`> I thought it worked with .15 too
[03:55] <_tcc> sethk, yeah that's what i mean
[03:55] <profoX`> but I'm not sure..
[03:55] <sethk> pydj, you want to have a desktop running on machine x but displayed on machine y?
[03:56] <default> how do i remove gnome from the things started for run level 2?
[03:56] <profoX`> judari_: Alternate installer? maybe :)
[03:56] <charlie01> where i can get maps from brazil for palm T|X??????????????
[03:56] <_tcc> use vnc for that
[03:56] <damian_> profoX: well, they used to work, and now they stopped, and I asked someone in #wireless and he said you needed 2.6.17
[03:56] <_tcc> vnc sucks
[03:56] <Flannel> judari_: it's called he "alternate" iso
[03:56] <sethk> pydj, or do you want the desktop displayed on the machine and also displayed on another box?
[03:56] <Flannel> !tell judari_ about alternate
[03:56] <profoX`> default: I think /etc/inittab ?
[03:56] <default> k
[03:56] <pydj> sethk: I want an ubuntu live CD on computer in china and ubuntu installed on my laptop-- controlling the remote computer's desktop and applications.
[03:56] <natural20> so i can't load certain pages with opera, ff, or epiphany.  i know the pages work.  they are all pages that require login information.  any ideas?
[03:56] <IcemanV9> NkuMik1: you need to change icon in the top panel from lo to ath0 by right-click
[03:56] <witless> profoX`: thanks, didn't notice topic.  i'll check it out
[03:56] <profoX`> default: no i misunderstood the question
[03:56] <pydj> sethk: both computers with desktops.
[03:56] <sethk> pydj, ok, you can use xdmcp for that
[03:56] <NkuMik1> icemanv9: and then it will just work?
[03:56] <profoX`> witless: np
[03:57] <sethk> pydj, the desktop displayed on your box while the remote box is running
[03:57] <sethk> pydj, but not displayed on the remote box
[03:57] <IcemanV9> NkuMik1: then you'll see some activities in the little tiny monitor
[03:57] <_tcc> Oh the X display manager
[03:57] <sethk> _tcc, right, the X xdmcp capability is turned on in the display manager
[03:57] <tpelton> anyone have any thoughts on sound, my kde sound works
[03:57] <NkuMik1> alright...
[03:57] <tpelton> sound applications _dont_
[03:57] <mhonn> hi..
[03:57] <FliesLikeALap> you need to tell the applications to use the right audio output plugin probably
[03:58] <judari_> thanks Flannel..
[03:58] <sethk> tpelton, is artsd running?
[03:58] <tpelton> yes
[03:58] <IcemanV9> NkuMik1: i have ath0 card myself. it's a super card that makes me happy. :)
[03:58] <tpelton> i tried stopping
[03:58] <FliesLikeALap> what applications have you tried?
[03:58] <pydj> sethk: I need it displayed on both computers... with IM chat going on at the same time...
[03:58] <tpelton> stopping artsd
[03:58] <judari_> Flannel, btw, have you heard the great lp "Flyin' The Flannel" ? If not, look it up .. :)
[03:58] <wickers> arg
[03:58] <tpelton> i have a flight sim, and kaffeine and amarok that dont work
[03:58] <sethk> pydj, then you may be reduced to using vnc, which has awful performance
[03:58] <tpelton> "test sound" does
[03:58] <tpelton> flight sim uses the alsa api
[03:59] <sethk> tpelton, I didn't say to stop artsd, I asked if it is running
[03:59] <tpelton> checked alsa mixer
[03:59] <pydj> sethk: an alternative to gotomeeting type of thing... VNC works find on the internal network here... but I don't konw how to do it over the Internet.
[03:59] <tpelton> it _was_ and _is_
[03:59] <NkuMik1> icemanv9:  Im not too find of mine it seems it wasn't out of the box supported by most of the linux distros I tried without madwifi (i had trouble with that as well) anyways I will go try that thanks for your help
[03:59] <_tcc> sethk, how do you enable that now?
[03:59] <sethk> pydj, the same way.
[03:59] <sethk> _tcc, xdmcp?  in the gdm.conf file
[03:59] <pydj> sethk: it doesn't want to connect when I do it.
[03:59] <mhonn> halo i'm newbie in ubuntu
[03:59] <IcemanV9> NkuMik1: in my case, it "just works" out of the box.
[04:00] <pydj> sethk: how does it know which computer on the IP address to connect to?  I just tell the other person to get their IP from whatismyip.com and then I vnc to that IP address?
[04:00] <tpelton> tpelton   7375     1  0 21:36 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a
[04:00] <NkuMik1> your very lucky!
[04:00] <FliesLikeALap> pydj assuming they have the necessary ports forwarded if they're using a router
[04:00] <sethk> pydj, that's one way, yes, if the ip isn't static
[04:00] <mhonn> how to know if i'm run on superuser in ubuntu 5.10 ????
[04:00] <profoX`> mhonn: what do you mean ?
[04:00] <steven_> hey im being port scanned while i am sitting in a cofffee shop... any advice?
[04:00] <baconbacon> mhonn, on ubuntu the superuse is disabled by default
[04:00] <tpelton> sethk, did i lose you ?
[04:01] <sethk> mhonn, id shows your current identity
[04:01] <pydj> mhonn: type whoami at the terminal
[04:01] <mhonn> i mean how to know if i run on super user
[04:01] <sethk> tpelton, sorry.  artsd looks normal
[04:01] <sethk> tpelton, does aplay work?
[04:01] <mhonn> because i can't install a aplication
[04:01] <sethk> mhonn, in a terminal you type id
[04:01] <sethk> mhonn, use sudo
[04:01] <baconbacon> mhonn, you run a command as superuser by prepending it with sudo
[04:01] <pydj> mhonn: you probably aren't unless you launched a program with sudo, or did sudo -s, or something like that.
[04:01] <tpelton> tpelton@monster:~/X-Plane 8.50 Beta 8$ aplay -l
[04:01] <sethk> mhonn, to install the app
[04:01] <tpelton> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[04:01] <tpelton> card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804] , device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia CK804] 
[04:01] <poningru> !ubuntu
[04:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:01] <tpelton>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:01] <tpelton>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:01] <tpelton> card 0: CK804 [NVidia CK804] , device 2: Intel ICH - IEC958 [NVidia CK804 - IEC958] 
[04:01] <tpelton>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:01] <tpelton>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:01] <poningru> err
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> !paste
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:02] <poningru> !sound
[04:02] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:02] <steven_> the bastard is still scanning me, any way i can block it?
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ mind telling me the details?  I don't think I missed your original problem
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> nvm Steil
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ *
[04:02] <tpelton> if i "use" alsa, kde "test sound" still works, kaffeine etc don't ...
[04:02] <IcemanV9> steven_: go up and knock the guy out ;)
[04:02] <pydj> FliesLikeALap: how do I tell them to do that?
[04:02] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ find his IP address, and in a terminal do "route add -host <IP here> reject"
[04:03] <steven_> FliesLikeALap: i am in a coffee shop,a nd my logs are freaking out cause im being scanned
[04:03] <sethk> tpelton, I meant to ask whether aplay soundfile (soundfile is something.wav, typically)
[04:03] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ see my previous message
[04:03] <FliesLikeALap> pydj take a look at (and have them do it too) http://portforward.com
[04:03] <steven_> ok, i will do that, thanks
[04:03] <mhonn> how to install xmms in ubuntu
[04:03] <tpelton> i get static on an mp3 file ?
[04:03] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:03] <IcemanV9> mhonn: sudo aptitude install xmms
[04:03] <FliesLikeALap> tpelton try another output plugin
[04:04] <pydj> FliesLikeALap: thanks.
[04:04] <mhonn> where i can get the xmms that suport to ubuntu 5.10
[04:04] <tpelton> you lost me on "output plugin" ?
[04:04] <sethk> tpelton, sounds like multiple access to sound is working properly, so it must be configuration of the apps that aren't working for you
[04:04] <J-_> messed my xserver up... how can i "unmess it" lol, i downloaded an update and it's not working now
[04:04] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn that should work in 5.10 too
[04:04] <FliesLikeALap> J-_ try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:04] <mhonn> i don't know where to download xmms for my ubuntu 5.10
[04:04] <J-_> thanks
[04:05] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn open a terminal window and do "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[04:05] <quintin> Can someone here help me with a wireless problem please?
[04:05] <tpelton> why  wouldn't kaffeine of all things work ?
[04:05] <sethk> brb
[04:05] <quintin> I am using ubuntu linux and I cannot get my prism2 card to connect.  I got it specifcally because it was supposed to be supported in linux.  I see ESSID of router in this dropdown list in gnome network settings, but it won't connect to network
[04:05] <sethk>  tpelton that is odd
[04:05] <mhonn> n i want to install but my pc not connect to internet
[04:05] <baconbacon> mhonn: with the apt-get command, the right version is installed
[04:05] <baconbacon> oh ok
[04:05] <tpelton> bummer ...
[04:05] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn then you need to get the debian package from online and transfer it to that computer via some other means.  let me find the file for you
[04:05] <sethk> tpelton, you've looked at the sound part of the kde control center?
[04:05] <baconbacon> hmm question to others, is xmms in main (probably not)
[04:05] <tpelton> is "aplay" an alsa utility ?
[04:05] <sethk> tpelton, yes
[04:06] <Flannel> !info xmms
[04:06] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[04:06] <Flannel> baconbacon: yes
[04:06] <sethk> tpelton, aplay == alsaplay
[04:06] <tpelton> so that would indicate that alsa is setup correctly ...
[04:06] <tpelton> i did double check kaffeine, and set it to use also as well
[04:06] <tpelton> no joy
[04:06] <tpelton> no errors
[04:06] <tpelton> it just acts like the sound file is empty
[04:06] <tpelton> goes right to the end
[04:07] <tpelton> argh ...
[04:07] <J-_> how do i change  from irssi to do that FliesLikeALap?
[04:07] <tpelton> i have an nforce4 chipset
[04:07] <J-_> nvm
[04:07] <sethk> tpelton, you've checked the sound section of the control center?
[04:07] <tpelton> AC'97
[04:08] <tpelton> well, i've looked at it and twiddled it some ...
[04:08] <tpelton> what should i look _for_  ?
[04:08] <sethk> tpelton, I think there is a test you can run from there, try it
[04:08] <sethk> tpelton, I have to walk to dog, back in a few
[04:08] <tpelton> k
[04:08] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xmms/xmms-dev_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:09] <baconbacon> aaah FliesLikeALap beat me
[04:09] <FliesLikeALap> save that somewhere and transfer it to that computer.  I'm not sure what the dependencies might be, you might need other packages as well.  You may be best off downloading the i386 ubuntu DVD and installing it from there using apt, so you can have everything you might need
[04:10] <mhonn> how to install xmms in ubuntu but my pc not connect to internet
[04:10] <FliesLikeALap> ...
[04:10] <FliesLikeALap> I just explained that to you
[04:10] <J-_> when configuring xserver it asks me what driver to use, i have a geforce fx5200. what driver should i use?
[04:10] <FliesLikeALap> J-_ install the nvidia drivers through apt
[04:10] <FliesLikeALap> copy that file to the computer using a CD, USB disk, or something else, then do "sudo dpkg -i <that file>"
[04:11] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn  look at http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/sound/xmms so you know its dependencies
[04:11] <Xorsist> hellllloooo
[04:11] <ircleuser> Does Java not come with Ubuntu? When I try to load a website that I think was made using Java: http://www.doodlenow.com/ it doesn't work.
[04:11] <FliesLikeALap> if you have time to download and burn a 4gb dvd, you should download the i386 DVD and that way you'll have all of the packages you need
[04:11] <azathoth> how can i find out what process has locked my audio?
[04:11] <FliesLikeALap> hi Xorsist, if you have a question feel free to ask it
[04:11] <Xorsist> ok
[04:11] <J-_> is "nv" the driver that i'm suppose to use?
[04:11] <Flannel> !tell ircleuser about java
[04:11] <donk3y> Anyone here have a MythTV box?
[04:12] <quintin> So can anyon ehelp me with my wireless problem?
[04:12] <ircleuser> Thanks Flannel.
[04:12] <FliesLikeALap> J-_ you can use nv for now to get it working, but if you want a better driver then you need to install the nvidia driver from apt
[04:12] <FliesLikeALap> then reconfigure X to use the "nvidia" driver
[04:12] <J-_> im not sure which driver to install with apt-get
[04:12] <J-_> thanks dude
[04:12] <FliesLikeALap> quintin I can try to help
[04:13] <FliesLikeALap> J-_ for now just try nv
[04:13] <J-_> very much
[04:13] <mhonn> how much eth that suport to my ubuntu?
[04:13] <azathoth> anyone? totem says my audio is being locked by another process... how can i find out which process is locking it?
[04:13] <FliesLikeALap> then later on when that works, do "apt-cache search nvidia | grep driver"
[04:13] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn it will work fine
[04:13] <J-_> k
[04:13] <azathoth> nvidia-glx will do it won't it?
[04:13] <FliesLikeALap> yes azathoth thats the one
[04:13] <Xorsist> i tried to install xgl and i didnt work right i guess and now my xserver is messed up and i cant get the gui to load
[04:13] <azathoth> then edit xorg.conf and change the driver from nv to nvidia
[04:13] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: ty.  where should I start?
[04:13] <FliesLikeALap> quintin what is the name of the wireless device?  ath0, wifi0, or something else?
[04:13] <John[1] > Where can I download the lastest dapper server that is fixed so I can install the desktop?
[04:14] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: wlan0
[04:14] <FliesLikeALap> John[1]  do you want the server or desktop disk?
[04:14] <FliesLikeALap> quintin is this the computer that you're on right now?
[04:14] <azathoth> folks, totem says my audio is being locked by another process... how can i find out which process is locking it?
[04:14] <baconbacon> Xorsist: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl questions is best
[04:14] <urmom> can someone help me?
[04:14] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: well no :)
[04:14] <John[1] > I would like to have the server that hs fixed so I can install the desktop.
[04:14] <FliesLikeALap> urmom just ask your question and we'll help if we can
[04:14] <Xorsist> ok thank you bacon
[04:14] <FliesLikeALap> azathoth please don't repeat your question, at least not nearly that often
[04:14] <urmom> my question is here
[04:14] <urmom> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1411339#post1411339
[04:15] <azathoth> sorry, but no-oen responded and i thought it got lost in the haze
[04:15] <azathoth> *one
[04:15] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: I am now trying to specify the IP address manually.  it is sending frames, but NOT receiving.  it shows a signal strength as well, but I don't seem to be associated with the access point
[04:16] <mikul> i have just installd ubuntu server, but i want to use xorg, what is the name?! isnt it xorg-x11? i cant find it, and xserver-xorg dosent seam to work, i cant start it with startx, why?
[04:16] <FliesLikeALap> quintin I'm going to have you try debugging this through the terminal, since I'm not familiar with any graphical wireless tools
[04:16] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: not a problem.
[04:16] <Flannel> urmom: youre using grub, I imagine?
[04:16] <BlueEagle> mikul: you could just install the viritual package xubuntu-desktop as it will give you a light-weight window manager and xorg.
[04:16] <FliesLikeALap> mikul if you want to install ubuntu from a server install, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:16] <urmom> no yaboot
[04:16] <John[1] > I have screwed around most of the day trying get somewhere with installing the desktop to no avail.
[04:16] <FliesLikeALap> mikul or you can do "apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-desktop"
[04:16] <urmom> i use grub on my fedora box
[04:17] <BlueEagle> mikul: ...or ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome or kubuntu-desktop if you want kde.
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> azathoth if you don't get an answer in here in what you feel to be a reasonable amount of time, you may be better off posting it on ubuntyuforums or linuxquestions
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> quintin is this the computer you're on now
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> ?*
[04:17] <mikul> the thing is i dont want gnom!
[04:17] <phxheat> hi, i have a dell dimension 8200 with its original cheapo sound card which i know ubuntu dapper should support (but it didnt detect it for some reason).. how can i fix this manually?
[04:17] <mikul> i want fluxbox
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> alright mikul then do "apt-get install xserver-xorg" and then whatever window manager you want
[04:17] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: no, it is not.
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> ok
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox-desktop"
[04:17] <FliesLikeALap> or maybe it is just fluxbox
[04:18] <baconbacon> just fluxbox
[04:18] <FliesLikeALap> it is just fluxbox
[04:18] <FliesLikeALap> heh yeah
[04:18] <BoarderXT> is there any good pages to see if my laptop's hardware is fully supported?
[04:18] <BlueEagle> azathoth: You might need to specify it to use esd.
[04:18] <FliesLikeALap> quintin alright.  try doing ifdown wlan0 first to completely turn it off
[04:18] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: done
[04:18] <FliesLikeALap> quintin all of the commands I'm going to tell you to do are as sudo or root
[04:18] <mikul> FliesLikeALap, i did, but i cant start x, tried with startx but it dosent work
[04:18] <FliesLikeALap> quintin have you set up /etc/network/interfaces for this device?
[04:18] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: no
[04:18] <azathoth> BlueEagle, how do i do that?
[04:19] <BlueEagle> azathoth: either that or you can stop esd and use alsa directly but that will (in most cases) limit you to one application using sound at a time.
[04:19] <urmom> can anyone help me?
[04:19] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: when I do ifdown it say "error for wirelsss request "set essid" (8b1a0: set failed on device wlan0 ; operation not supported.'
[04:19] <FliesLikeALap> yes urmom I can but I'm a bit busy at the moment
[04:19] <azathoth> i'm using alsa at the moment, and it's fracking with things... i have oss installed but no esd... should i go install it?
[04:19] <FliesLikeALap> alright
[04:19] <JackMacOKC> urmom: as far as your boot order, you need to edit your grub menu.lst most likely
[04:19] <BlueEagle> azathoth: It's ususally a setting in the program.
[04:20] <FliesLikeALap> urmom there is a line in /boot/grub/menu.lst that says "default 0" and you need ot chanve that to the number of your OSX entry in the list
[04:20] <BlueEagle> azathoth: I don't use totem so I wouldn't know. I find vlc to be a better video player.
[04:20] <mhonn> can my ubuntu 5.10 run a yahoo masenger?
[04:20] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: this is my great desktop linux experiment... really have to get this working so the guinea pig can start using it
[04:20] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn take a look at gaim
[04:20] <azathoth> well, it's the only one that gives me an error
[04:20] <azathoth> sounds don't play from any app
[04:20] <FliesLikeALap> quintin edit (using your favorite editor) /etc/network/interfaces
[04:20] <phxheat> anyone? how can i detect a soundcard in linux?
[04:20] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: k, what do I put in it?
[04:20] <azathoth> listen won't play sounds, even the default system sounds don't play and won't test
[04:20] <John[1] > apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-desktop I run this command and I get can't find gnome desktop
[04:21] <FliesLikeALap> quintin do you see any lines in there that say "wlan0" ?
[04:21] <baconbacon> FliesLikeALap, mhonn : yahoo messenger works just fine on ubuntu, but i would still use gaim
[04:21] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: yes.  shall I type them?
[04:21] <azathoth> however, youtube files play sound..
[04:21] <FliesLikeALap> yes please quintin but if there are many please paste them to me in a PM or use pastebin
[04:21] <azathoth> i have closed firefox but still no sound
[04:21] <mhonn> what is gaim?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> azathoth: Then it would be appear that firefox or flash is still locking it.
[04:21] <FliesLikeALap> http://gaim.sf.net mhonn
[04:21] <FliesLikeALap> gaim is a cross-protocol chat program
[04:21] <FliesLikeALap> cross-platform too
[04:22] <orbin> azathoth: seen ubotu's sound factoid yet?
[04:22] <baconbacon> gaim is installed by default, in "applications -> internet" menu
[04:22] <deltab> azathoth: lsof /dev/dsp
[04:22] <azathoth> orbin, ?
[04:22] <deltab> !sound
[04:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:22] <FliesLikeALap> ah deltab I was trying to get him to do that exact thing earlier but I couldn't remember the device node name ;)
[04:22] <JackMacOKC> John[1] : you need to install ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[04:23] <BoarderXT> is there any good pages to see if my laptop's hardware is fully supported?
[04:23] <BoarderXT> i'm mostly concenred about sound, network, wifi
[04:23] <FliesLikeALap> what brand of laptop?
[04:23] <BoarderXT> hp dv1000
[04:23] <azathoth> i have no multimedia system selector in my prefs... i tried searchign for it in synaptic but came up blank... whats the package name?
[04:23] <BoarderXT> year old
[04:23] <FliesLikeALap> BoarderXT a great way to find out would be to test it with a ubuntu livecd
[04:23] <BoarderXT> FliesLikeALap thanks, i was curious if the livecd would fully test all my hardware
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> that's how I checked my laptop before trying linux
[04:24] <BoarderXT> cool
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> BoarderXT it should test 90% of it or so, but if something doesn't work that doesn't mean it is impossible to get it working in a normal install
[04:24] <BoarderXT> gotcha
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> it can only tell you for sure if something /will/work
[04:24] <BoarderXT> do you find better, worse, or same batt life when going from xp to linux?
[04:24] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: Do you see PM?
[04:24] <mhonn> why my ubuntu is so slowly?
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> far better BoarderXT
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> no quintin I do not
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> I get far better BoarderXT *
[04:24] <FliesLikeALap> I can't speak for the general case, but it appears that most people get better battery life
[04:25] <mhonn> i mean the first time in boot?
[04:25] <BoarderXT> FliesLikeALap: excellent, i'm in need of basically a unix box to take with me, i'm a software engineer by nature making the switch from visual studio
[04:25] <FliesLikeALap> good call BoarderXT
[04:25] <BoarderXT> but since i travel a lot, wifi and dvd playback are a must
[04:25] <FliesLikeALap> I started doing all of my coding and schoolwork in linux and I found it to be a ton better and more efficient
[04:25] <BoarderXT> can you recommend any good visual debuggers? i got very used to VS's
[04:26] <FliesLikeALap> sorry, I personally can't
[04:26] <baconbacon> Visual debugger on linux ... the only one i know is eclipse's
[04:26] <azathoth> thanks folks, it appears tribler was stealing it... the lsof did it... much obliged to you all
[04:26] <FliesLikeALap> the flexibility of coding and working in linux, as well as the sustained performance (instead of the random delays when trying to do anything) were huge turn-ons once I got everything working
[04:26] <quintin> FliesLikeALap: Did you see private messages?
[04:26] <FliesLikeALap> no quintin
[04:27] <FliesLikeALap> if I recall, freenode has something where only registered users can send PMs
[04:27] <BoarderXT> cool, so do you just make your files and debug that way?
[04:27] <FliesLikeALap> though I may be mistaken
[04:27] <BoarderXT> w/ the limited gcc feedback?
[04:27] <FliesLikeALap> yeah BoarderXT
[04:27] <BoarderXT> word
[04:27] <BoarderXT> so does ubuntu have a dvd player?
[04:27] <FliesLikeALap> multiple ones BoarderXT
[04:27] <BoarderXT> oh fantastic
[04:27] <FliesLikeALap> you need to get the DVD en/decryption libraries, something which I don't have experience with
[04:27] <mhonn> how much iptables that ubuntu 5.10 suport?
[04:27] <BoarderXT> well i appreciate your patience and help
[04:28] <FliesLikeALap> everything mhonn
[04:28] <Flannel> !tell BoarderXT about dvd
[04:28] <goldenflaw> Hello, I was wondering how to add periodic tasks that requires sudo privelege?
[04:28] <goldenflaw> is there a way to do that with crontab?
[04:29] <FliesLikeALap> goldenflaw you can add them to root's crontab
[04:29] <__mikem> hey chiefinnovator
[04:29] <mhonn> what is root?
[04:29] <goldenflaw> how would I access root's crontab?
[04:29] <goldenflaw> su?
[04:29] <FliesLikeALap> goldenflaw if you do sudo crontab -e, they will be executed with root permissions
[04:29] <__mikem> you say you need help with ssh?
[04:29] <goldenflaw> ok
[04:29] <goldenflaw> thanks
[04:29] <FliesLikeALap> np
[04:29] <steven__> is there an immediate thing I can do to this guy sitting acrossed the coffee shop port scanning me?  I did the route add host thing
[04:29] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn root is a user that has all permissions to everything on a unix system
[04:29] <chiefinnovator> hey everyone
[04:29] <chiefinnovator> so here's an ssh question
[04:29] <Daemoz> TBScipter: :D
[04:29] <__mikem> ok
[04:29] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ that should block him from entirely accessing your system at all
[04:30] <TBScripter> lol
[04:30] <TBScripter> someone took TBS
[04:30] <FliesLikeALap> steven_ aside from reaching out and smacking him, there is nothing else you can do
[04:30] <steven__> I am still getting attackalerts
[04:30] <FliesLikeALap> are you sure you did the route command right?
[04:30] <chiefinnovator> So ssh just stopped working yesterday
[04:30] <FliesLikeALap> route add -host <his IP> reject
[04:30] <chiefinnovator> I can't log into my computer anymore via ssh
[04:30] <FliesLikeALap> what happens when you try to connect?
[04:30] <Daemoz> TBScripter: ask your question :P
[04:30] <Daemoz> TBScripter: in detail
[04:30] <TBScripter> what is my question
[04:31] <__mikem> The daemon is probably not running for some reason, probably the port got blocked off for some reason
[04:31] <Daemoz> TBScripter: about why you cant format, and the output
[04:31] <mhonn> halo
[04:31] <__mikem> Id check to make sure the ssh port is open first of all
[04:31] <BrokenPipe> Is there a problem with the AMD64 Install CD? It just freezes on my system after it says it's loading the kernel.
[04:31] <chiefinnovator> __max_, well it doesn't even work locally so I figure that rules out a port issue?
[04:31] <TBScripter> Daemoz: umm k
[04:31] <FliesLikeALap> BrokenPipe are you trying the server, desktop, or alternate install CD?
[04:32] <mhonn> how much iptables that ubuntu 5.10 suport?
[04:32] <chiefinnovator> $ ssh -vvv localhost doesn't work
[04:32] <FliesLikeALap> mhonn I already told you that 5.10 works fine with iptables
[04:32] <__mikem> chiefinnovator, can you get local root access on the box?
[04:32] <chiefinnovator> how do I test my port?
[04:32] <BrokenPipe> FliestLikeALap: Desktop
[04:32] <TBScripter> how do I format my Hard Drive?
[04:32] <TBScripter> using the ubuntu installer
[04:32] <chiefinnovator> __mikem, how do I get local root access?
[04:32] <FliesLikeALap> BrokenPipe try the ubuntu-alternate installer
[04:32] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: sudo
[04:32] <BrokenPipe> FliestLikeALap: That one doesn't work either
[04:32] <chiefinnovator> and then?
[04:32] <FliesLikeALap> and if that doesn't work, try the ubuntu server installer and afterwards do "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:32] <BrokenPipe> FliestLikeALap: Linux natasha 2.6.16-suspend2-r4 #2 SMP Wed Apr 26 22:34:50 PDT 2006 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ GNU/Linux
[04:33] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: sudo [command]  will perform [command]  as super user
[04:33] <Daemoz> TbScripter: ask bigger.
[04:33] <IcemanV9> xload -remote <host> does not work; what did i do wrong? i would like to monitor another ubuntu box
[04:33] <__mikem> chiefinnovator, what I mean is physically loging into the machine instead of using ssh to do a remote log in
[04:33] <chiefinnovator> Ok I tried $ sudo ssh -vvv localhost
[04:33] <chiefinnovator> same error
[04:33] <chiefinnovator> I am physically logged into the machine now
[04:33] <TBScripter> whos bigger
[04:33] <Daemoz> How do you format your hard drive with the ubuntu cd??
[04:34] <__mikem> Ok, so at the physical keyboard and mouse of that machine you have a terminal?
[04:34] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: what error are you getting?
[04:34] <baconbacon> Daemoz : to clear your hard drive get my pm
[04:34] <__mikem> Flannel, his problem is ssh stopped working
[04:34] <Daemoz> baconbacon: ??
[04:34] <chiefinnovator> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:34] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: have you tried restarting your ssh server?
[04:34] <chiefinnovator> Right, my exact message is that:
[04:34] <chiefinnovator> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> I restarted the computer
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> to no avail
[04:35] <Daemoz> baconbacon: how??
[04:35] <baconbacon> wait
[04:35] <__mikem> chieffinnovator, from the physical machine, can you do a ls /home/ for me and tell me what you see?
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> should I try restarting ssh server now?
[04:35] <Acidfk> what is the problem !?
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> chiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ ls /home/
[04:35] <chiefinnovator> chiefinnovator  images  lost+found
[04:36] <__mikem> ok, so you still have an account
[04:36] <chiefinnovator> yeah I suppose so
[04:36] <Daemoz> TBScripter: Go back on MSN
[04:36] <TBScripter> kk
[04:36] <__mikem> chiefinnovator, yes restart the ssh server and see if that helps
[04:37] <chiefinnovator> __mikem, how do I restart ssh server?
[04:37] <__mikem> Just reset the whole box
[04:37] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:37] <__mikem> or you can do that
[04:37] <chiefinnovator> I'll try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart first
[04:38] <__mikem> yes
[04:38] <chiefinnovator> same ultimate error message
[04:38] <Acidfk> sorry  but what is the problem
[04:38] <Acidfk> ?
[04:38] <Flannel> Acidfk: he gets connection timed out when trying to ssh to localhost
[04:38] <orbin> Acidfk: what's yours?
[04:38] <__mikem> chiefinnovator, don't do it through ssh, type it into the physical machine
[04:38] <chiefinnovator> I am at the physical machine
[04:39] <chiefinnovator> that's where I did it
[04:39] <__mikem> well, that shouldn't be happening
[04:39] <Jjwalker> hi
[04:39] <__mikem> hello
[04:39] <chiefinnovator> I'm confused
[04:39] <Jjwalker> what is the sudo command to work with a su prompt?
[04:39] <BrokenPipe> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu on x86_64 hardware?
[04:39] <__mikem> lets go to plan b and restart the box
[04:39] <chiefinnovator> Ok, so I'll be back in a few minutes then
[04:39] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: whats the error?
[04:40] <__mikem> BrokenPipe, I did on top of vmware
[04:40] <Flannel> Jjwalker: sudo -i or, sudo -s  I don't remember which is which
[04:40] <chiefinnovator> error says:
[04:40] <Jjwalker> thanks flannel
[04:40] <__mikem> JackMacOKC connection reset by peer
[04:40] <chiefinnovator> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:40] <steven__> is there a way I can manually change my IP address from the command line?
[04:40] <__mikem> steven__ no
[04:40] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: probably a firewall issue, are you running firestarter?
[04:40] <Warbo> Does anyone have experience with a BT Voyager 205 router? I am trying to forward ports for Ekiga, but it is still detected as "Symmetric NAT"
[04:40] <nopcode> steven__: ifconfig
[04:40] <steven__> ifconfig what?  I am using iwconfig for wireless
[04:40] <chiefinnovator> JackMacOKC, firestarter?
[04:40] <nopcode> steven__: ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 for example
[04:40] <chiefinnovator> JackMacOKC, how do I check?
[04:41] <__mikem> firestarter is a firewall
[04:41] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: are you running any firewalls of any sort
[04:41] <argument> BrokenPipe, installed it on said hardware? or installed the 64 bit *version*
[04:41] <chiefinnovator> I don't want to run any firewallks
[04:41] <argument> BrokenPipe, there's a difference
[04:41] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: software (firestarter, iptables) or hardware (wireless router)
[04:41] <mhonn> hi always fail to activated dhcp
[04:41] <argument> BrokenPipe, i have ubuntu installed on x86_64 hardware but my ubuntu is the 32 bit version
[04:41] <baconbacon> ok #ubuntu+1 is silent on the matter, can anyone here tell me if latest edgy works at least for them (booting + x + starting gnome OK)
[04:41] <__mikem> I have to get some homework done, chiefinnovator, mind If I just leave you with these guys I have to get some reading done for school
[04:41] <chiefinnovator> JackMacOKC, I have a wireless router
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[04:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:41] <Daemoz> hey all, I notticed some websites grab my IP address, and operating system, is there any way to change what they see w.o a proxy??
[04:41] <BrokenPipe> So, then, wtf does the 64 bit version actually install on??
[04:41] <saiko> someone has ever won a game in Four-in-a-Row ?
[04:42] <chiefinnovator> __mikem, sure thanks for the help
[04:42] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: thats probably your issue, you need to configure port forwarding
[04:42] <__mikem> yw
[04:42] <steven__> nopcode: thanks
[04:42] <Warbo> BrokenPipe: 64bit x86 can run 64bit OS or 32bit OS
[04:42] <Daemoz> hey all, I notticed some websites grab my IP address, and operating system, is there any way to change what they see w.o a proxy??
[04:42] <argument> Daemoz, IP spoofing can be done but iirc you can't spoof your own IP
[04:42] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: get the manual for your router and look up how to forward ports. you need to forward port 22 to your computer
[04:42] <Daemoz> oh
[04:42] <Daemoz> sorry bout reposting
[04:42] <chiefinnovator> JackMacOKC, no that's the thing, everything worked fine with ssh for about two months until yesterday
[04:42] <Daemoz> accident
[04:42] <chiefinnovator> I have port forwarding set up
[04:42] <argument> Daemoz, you can change your user agent response tho
[04:42] <sethro> Hi guys
[04:43] <Daemoz> aegument: how?
[04:43] <saiko> i'm not quite sure why there is three levels of difficulty when the first one already is unbeatable lol
[04:43] <chiefinnovator> Router still shows it set up
[04:43] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: ok, hmmm
[04:43] <Warbo> Daemoz: You could always use TOR
[04:43] <argument> Daemoz, i don't know, i've never had a desire or a need to do that
[04:43] <sethro> I need some help with GTKPOD
[04:43] <chiefinnovator> Plus I figure that fact the I get the error when running ssh -vvv localhost
[04:43] <JackMacOKC> chiefinnovator: i'd go ahead and reboot everything just to make sure everythings good there. i'll hang out for a bit if you want to pop back in and let me know
[04:43] <sethro> I need to know how to take songs out of my iPod and put them on my Hard Drive
[04:43] <chiefinnovator> makes this a "pre firewall" issue so to speak
[04:43] <Daemoz> argument: instead of saying Debian i686 on their site, I want ut to say like "blow me"
[04:44] <chiefinnovator> JackMacOKC, Ok, I'll be back in a few minutes either way
[04:44] <chiefinnovator> thanks
[04:44] <sethro> Oh yeah and when I try to add music it tells me that their is an input/output error
[04:44] <baconbacon> Daemoz: that's definetly the job of a proxy, distributed like tor, or not, like squid
[04:44] <eauxnguyen> I am stuck on no sound on my thinkpad t20. followed the channel links and the ubuntu guide how to with no luck. no sound on streaming audio yet I get sound on video..
[04:44] <sethro> Can anyone help me out????
[04:44] <chiefinnovator> BTW how to multiply on the command line?
[04:44] <Warbo> Daemoz: TOR offers basic anonymity for web browsing and stuff (don't use it for bandwidth bungry stuff though)
[04:44] <Warbo> *hungry
[04:44] <Daemoz> Warbo: free?
[04:44] <sam__> Hey Guys, I was just curious how I could get the 3rd on my mouse to be noticed by linux =D
[04:45] <Warbo> Daemoz: Yes, but I have heard that the version in Ubuntu is a little old
[04:45] <sethro> COULd anybody help me with GTKPOD
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> chiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ 11.75*3
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> bash: 11.75*3: command not found
[04:45] <baconbacon> chiefinnovator: echo $(( 2 * 3 ))
[04:45] <As0ka> Warbo, what would you use for bandwidth hungry things then?
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> ah ok,
[04:45] <ScheissNUssen> what is the command for the ubuntu version of ctrl+alt+delete?
[04:45] <chiefinnovator> baconbacon, thanks!
[04:45] <orbin> eauxnguyen: if system sounds etc are working and it's only streaming audio..it might be an app/codec issue
[04:45] <Ropechoborra> How do i close samba ports (for accesing from internet?)
[04:45] <sethro> HELP ME??????????????????????????
[04:45] <Ropechoborra> !ask
[04:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:45] <Acidfk> crt+alt+del... show u option ! for sleep o shut down the pc
[04:45] <IdleOne> !mouse > sam__
[04:45] <root___> how to modify fstab so i can access my hd's without root
[04:45] <sethro> OH KAY I have a issue with GTKPOD
[04:45] <Warbo> As0ka: Freenet can apparently go pretty fast once you have been connected for a while, but it always crawls for me. I never bother downloading stuff off it, I just stick to the message boards
[04:45] <orbin> sethro: geeze, be patient ... in the meantime search the forum
[04:45] <kyja> omg I am having a love afair with amaroK <3 <3
[04:46] <JackMacOKC> sethro, you ned to excercise patience. screaming is a one way to ticket to be ignored
[04:46] <sethro> I did search teh forums
[04:46] <sethro> SORRY
[04:46] <orbin> root___: what filesystem?
[04:46] <chiefinnovator> chiefinnovator@MAIN1:~$ echo $((11.75 * 3))
[04:46] <chiefinnovator> bash: 11.75 * 3: syntax error in expression (error token is ".75 * 3")
[04:46] <ScheissNUssen> what is the command for the ubuntu version of ctrl+alt+delete?
[04:46] <root___> orbin: ntfs
[04:46] <root___> orbin: i just wanna be able to read the contents without having to run as root
[04:46] <JackMacOKC> ScheissNUssen: sudo reboot
[04:46] <ScheissNUssen> no
[04:46] <ScheissNUssen> not to reboot
[04:47] <baconbacon> chiefinnovator: use "," for decimal
[04:47] <ScheissNUssen> to close unresponsive programs
[04:47] <xxpor2> for what then?\
[04:47] <xxpor2> o
[04:47] <orbin> sethro: well the package descrip only says upload  ... perhaps you need to use another app?
[04:47] <xxpor2> ps -a
[04:47] <Flannel> ScheissNUssen: kill
[04:47] <orbin> !ntfs > root
[04:47] <orbin> !ntfs > root___
[04:47] <sethro> What do you recommend
[04:47] <ScheissNUssen> I have to type something?
[04:47] <xxpor2> erm
[04:47] <stonarmusic> anyone know the name of the screensaver that kinda morphs pictures, and shakes them and stuff like that?
[04:47] <cryptic^zazeem> ggs unfaithful
[04:47] <Warbo> Daemoz: http://tor.eff.org/ (but I think you will be kicked/banned from this chat room if you try to connect with it, due to spammers)
[04:47] <ScheissNUssen> my linux just froze and i wouldnt have been able to open the konsole
[04:47] <orbin> root___: ubotu sent you a pm...btw it's a bad idea to run apps as root
[04:47] <JackMacOKC> sethro, i've only seen a windows app that allows you to pull the songs off your ipod
[04:48] <As0ka> Warbo, im using tor
[04:48] <linuxuser> the xserver update hosed my xserver, why is that update still on the update site?
[04:48] <root___> orbin: yeah i know, it was an accident
[04:48] <ScheissNUssen> is there a way to open up the konsole when a program freezes without using the mouse?
[04:48] <xxpor2> zomg 150mb of ram for xgl
[04:48] <sethro> Okay when I use GTKPod i get the error input/output
[04:48] <As0ka> you have to use a specified address to connect to freenode
[04:48] <xxpor2> ahhh
[04:48] <As0ka> using TOr
[04:48] <ScheissNUssen> something like the task manager in windows?
[04:48] <Warbo> As0ka: Oh, I thought there was an ubotu factoid about it, oh well I stand corrected
[04:48] <JackMacOKC> ScheissNUssen- ctrl-alt-F1 through F6
[04:48] <baconbacon> ScheissNUssen: alt+f2
[04:48] <goatmale> can some one help me install a new hard drive?
[04:48] <baconbacon> then type "konsole"
[04:48] <Flannel> ScheissNUssen: you'd have to ask in #kubuntu, in gnome you can alt-f2, but ctrl-alt-f# will get you to a tty
[04:48] <Warbo> ScheissNUssen: "gnome-system-monitor"
[04:48] <IdleOne> goatmale, send me the pc and I'll install it :)
[04:49] <linuxuser> whats up with the xserver update? it hosed my system
[04:49] <goatmale> haha you wouldn't want it
[04:49] <Warbo> oh, KDE :)
[04:49] <sethro> When ever i try to synce a file i get the error "input/outpur error"
[04:49] <baconbacon> !xorgbugfix > linuxuser
[04:49] <IdleOne> goatmale, unplug the one you got and put in the newer one
[04:49] <goatmale> I am installing a second omne
[04:49] <sethro> Does anybody here use GTKpod
[04:49] <Warbo> As0ka: Are you using TOR from the repos, or did you add an external one? (I haven't used it since Breezy)
[04:50] <JackMacOKC> sethro, what gen ipod do you have
[04:50] <GameOver69> has anyone here upgraded to edgy?
[04:50] <As0ka> Warbo: repos
[04:50] <sethro> Oh I have a 20GB ipod
[04:50] <Warbo> As0ka: OK, that is probably the easiest way anyway
[04:50] <JackMacOKC> sethro, what generation
[04:51] <As0ka> Warbo, it was easy for me, and I'm a simple guy....so
[04:51] <Warbo> :)
[04:51] <sethro> Its a 3rd gen i think
[04:51] <IdleOne> goatmale, that shouldnt be to hard to do
[04:52] <sethro> Thanks for helping me out JackMacOKC
[04:52] <JackMacOKC> a lot of impatient people tonight
[04:52] <linux__alien> when i booted Ubuntu today morning it was just waiting in the step Mounting root file system and it didnt proceed at all so i went into the recovery mode and then again rebooted the system and now its working fine but when it boots i get a message saying that "There are differences in the boot sector and its back up " while it scans for the file systems
[04:53] <linux__alien> Is there any problem ? :-(
[04:53] <linux__alien> i am worried
[04:53] <linux__alien> could someone help me please?
[04:53] <bruenig> calm down...
[04:53] <HeathenDan> if it's a vfat partition and not your / partition, don't worry
[04:53] <emigo> how do I start sshd, in order to allow connections
[04:54] <Trae> http://occy.net/tmp/screenshots/wtf-nfs.png  <-- Anyone know why NFS is taking so long to mount.... 1min and 45seconds... via using the IP address, note the term in the screenshot.
[04:54] <JackMacOKC> emigo: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:54] <linux__alien> i ve 2 hard disks actually but it says that there are differences in the boot sector and its back up which means its root i believe
[04:54] <emigo> thanks
[04:54] <linux__alien> not sure
[04:54] <Tanker_> Looking for some advice on a good IRC app and a general site to search for software for Ubuntu? <sorry noob question I know>
[04:54] <bruenig> Tanker_, I use GAIM, a lot of people use xchat
[04:54] <JackMacOKC> Tanker_ irssi
[04:54] <As0ka> Freenet is scary
[04:54] <emigo> ooh command not found
[04:54] <nopcode> Tanker_: irssi
[04:55] <bruenig> Tanker_, for software, use the ubuntu repositories. You can access those graphically from System>Administration>synaptic package manager
[04:55] <JackMacOKC> emigo: sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[04:55] <emigo> yeah
[04:55] <emigo> thx
[04:55] <Zambezi> Is there an easy way to put up a FTP with SSH? One user/folder is enought. Secure and not access to the rest of the computer (except the uploadfolder).
[04:55] <linux__alien> HeathenDan, but when i got into the recovery mode and when i again rebooted into the normal mode it wored so does that mean that the recovery mode has solved the problem?
[04:55] <bruenig> I don't know if a terminal based irc client is a great idea for a noob. but maybe I am wrong
[04:55] <riddlebox> if I want the setserial command to run, everytime at boot how would I do that?
[04:56] <JackMacOKC> bruenig: sink or swim ;)
[04:56] <bruenig> riddlebox, system>preferences>sessions then go to the startup commands tab
[04:56] <nopcode> bruenig: guis make people dumb
[04:56] <rbman> I've got a fully configured ubuntu system on drive (hd0,1)  (with (hd0,0) as swap) and a second drive (hd1) with windows at position (hd1,0) that I want to be able to dual boot to using grub.  Using "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd0,1). My /boot/grub/menu.lst is posted at http://www.phpriot.com/3671  When I use this to boot windows the windows content section of the menu.lst file is displayed and it stops.  Can anyone suggest a
[04:56] <rbman> work-around? Any help is appreciated!
[04:56] <Tanker_> thanks ill give that a try, i loaded xchat from the repo, but its not real pretty :) years ago I used iirc text based but thats a pain :)
[04:56] <Tanker_> Thanks for the advice, ill check those out.
[04:56] <bruenig> nopcode, hey I love the command line. I am just you know trying to help him out
[04:56] <riddlebox> bruenig, it is a command that needs to be run as root though, or sudo
[04:57] <orbin> Tanker_: not pretty?  so customise it :P
[04:57] <nopcode> bruenig: if he were to start with a gui he'll prolly never learn... then he could aswell stick to windwos
[04:57] <Zambezi> Tanker_, Begin with xchat. Don't make it harder when nesaccary in the beging.
[04:57] <Tanker_> little beyond my knowledge
[04:57] <majd> hey
[04:57] <JackMacOKC> hi
[04:57] <majd> should i install the pc or mac version of ubuntu on my intel mac?
[04:57] <bruenig> nopcode, perhaps. Although a terminal irc client is not really essential. That is like telling him to use lynx
[04:58] <HeathenDan> maybe recovery mode kicked your kernel in the right direction lol. i dunno
[04:58] <saiko> Four-in-a-Row - Me: 0, Him: 39
[04:58] <nopcode> bruenig: true, knowing how to operato irssi isnt necessary ;)
[04:58] <saiko> it isn't happening ..
[04:58] <JackMacOKC> bruenig: whats wrong with lynx ;)
[04:58] <linux__alien> HeathenDan, but are there any chances of this happening ?
[04:58] <linux__alien> I ve the 64 bit version of Ubuntu
[04:58] <JackMacOKC> majd: good question, i would think the i386...the other version is meant for powerpc chips
[04:59] <majd> right
[05:01] <linux__alien> when i give this command for using Firefox 32 bit version i get this error sed 's/\/usr\/lib\//\/usr\/lib32\//g' /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32
[05:01] <linux__alien> i get Permission Denied
[05:01] <orbin> Tanker_: i meant just changing colours, adding transparency etc. ... how pretty does an IRC client have to be?:-/
[05:02] <HeathenDan> sorry, i can't help you there. i haven't used 64bit (and i don't have the hardware for it) and i don't use FF
[05:02] <saiko> irssi is as pretty as an irc client can get
[05:02] <bruenig> 64 bit is a beating. Get 32 bit
[05:02] <orbin> linux__alien: use sudo.  that command makes a new file with an alteration
[05:02] <deltab> linux__alien: note that you don't have to use / as the delimiter
[05:03] <nopcode> bruenig: what you say?
[05:03] <linux__alien> deltab, where ?
[05:03] <bruenig> too much work for 64 bit and no pay off
[05:03] <nopcode> bruenig: no payoff?
[05:03] <linux__alien> bruenig, you using 64 bit ?
[05:03] <deltab> linux__alien: s#/usr/lib/#/usr/lib32/#g
[05:03] <bruenig> apps don't respond or look any better
[05:03] <nopcode> twice the register-size
[05:03] <linux__alien> i am also using 64 bit . Its good
[05:03] <nopcode> addressable memory > 4 gig
[05:04] <linux__alien> but i am worried when i faced an unusual problem when Ubuntu didnt mount my root file system and then got into the recovery mode and then now it boots
[05:04] <nopcode> plus the amd64 has more sse registers :)
[05:04] <bruenig> I mean as far as current ubuntu versions are concerned. If you have a 64 chip, might as well use the i386 as 64 bit support is so low
[05:04] <linux__alien> It says "There are differences between the Boot Sector and its back up "
[05:04] <nopcode> bruenig: oh, ok ;)
[05:04] <bruenig> not generally
[05:04] <bruenig> lol
[05:04] <As0ka> Warbo, are you on Freenet?
[05:05] <As0ka> Warbo: I'm thinking about getting on. I love the idea, but I have no friends, lol :(
[05:05] <boredelo> freenet is too slow
[05:05] <RogerRabb> I liked how the 64bit edition detected my dual core cpu straight away and used the smp kernel.. the 32bit version doesn't do that.
[05:05] <linuxuser> so if i had been patient and done a apt-get dist-upgrade from command line, xserver would have gotten fixed?
[05:06] <RogerRabb> I found apps faster in 64bit.. just a little bit faster.. but yeah.. I like being able ot just use an os to do powerful things.. not work on making it work.. so switched to 32bit for now
[05:06] <linux__alien> orbin, This is what i gave and i get this error
[05:06] <linux__alien> sudo sed /usr/lib /usr/lib32 /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32
[05:06] <linux__alien> bash: /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32: Permission denied
[05:07] <jordanau> how do you view files on a file server?
[05:07] <bruenig> edgy is supposed to have true multiarch support so I will try out the 64 bit version there see if I can without chroot run 32 bit apps
[05:08] <Zambezi> Is it Edgy-release in middle of October as planned?
[05:08] <RogerRabb> gosh that's a fast release cycle
[05:08] <goatmale> can some one help me with this error? goatmale@goatmale-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/storage
[05:08] <goatmale> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:08] <azathoth> 4 month cycle?
[05:08] <bruenig> goatmale, what is the filesystem type of that drive, ext3, vfat or what
[05:09] <linuxuser> dapper was delayed two months
[05:09] <orbin> linux__alien: er, what are you trying to with sed?
[05:09] <goatmale> ext3
[05:09] <RogerRabb> being use to ms releasing an os every, oh, 5 years..when you see two ubuntu releases a year
[05:09] <bruenig> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage
[05:09] <linux__alien> orbin, i just want to make 32 bit firefox work
[05:09] <goatmale> thank you very much.
[05:09] <linux__alien> i need the Flash plugins
[05:09] <linux__alien> But that does not work with 64 bit . So i am trying out this
[05:10] <goatmale> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage
[05:10] <goatmale> opps
[05:10] <bruenig> something wrong goatmale?
[05:10] <goatmale> yeah
[05:10] <goatmale> code gave an error..
[05:10] <bruenig> that error being...
[05:10] <goatmale> goatmale@goatmale-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/storage
[05:10] <goatmale> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[05:10] <neddiW> Hello everyone
[05:10] <neddiW>  I have a problem that I cannot use the Synaptic, im running Ubuntu 6.06
[05:11] <linuxuser> next time i get a bad xserver update, and it hoses my system what would be the prefered method of fixing it other than reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:11] <goatmale> read the topic
[05:11] <neddiW> Synaptic does not open, is asks the root password and thats it
[05:11] <IdleOne> linuxuser, wait for the bugfix to be released
[05:11] <bruenig> well that was the right command for ext3 filesystem. Looks like the physical drive has some problems
[05:11] <linuxuser> IdleOne: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:12] <sethk> neddiW, if you are running it with sudo, you use your own password, not root password
[05:12] <bruenig> or rather there is something that has corrupted it
[05:12] <goatmale> i just got it :(
[05:12] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix
[05:12] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[05:12] <goatmale> I partitioned it fine.
[05:12] <orbin> linux__alien: sorry...i'm going to defer to 64bit users
[05:12] <neddiW> sethk, I'm sorry i meant my password ;)
[05:12] <chiefinnovator> Ok I did a restart I'm back
[05:12] <linuxuser> how do you fix the xserver from command line?
[05:12] <linux__alien> orbin, why this channel does not support 64 bit?
[05:12] <linux__alien> :-)
[05:12] <bruenig> linux alien, there is a how to on installing the 32 bit firefox, why don't you follow that
[05:12] <bruenig> it is in the forums
[05:13] <bruenig> search for it. I think it is titled getting firefox with flash and java in 64 bit or something like that
[05:13] <goatmale> bruenig I partitioned it a primary partition in the ext3 format.
[05:13] <IdleOne> !xorgbugfix > linuxuser
[05:13] <linuxuser> what does that mean?
[05:13] <Flannel> linuxuser: check your query from ubotu
[05:13] <IdleOne> did you get a msg from ubotu?
[05:13] <bruenig> copy and paste those commands linuxuser
[05:13] <quintin> anyone here use ndiswrapper?
[05:13] <goatmale> yes
[05:14] <goatmale> use ndisgtk
[05:14] <goatmale> it's much easier
[05:14] <bruenig> gui, wimp
[05:14] <goatmale> i am teh noob.
[05:14] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell quintin about anyone
[05:14] <jordanau> quintin, yes
[05:14] <chiefinnovator> same ssh error still after the restart
[05:14] <linuxuser> thank you
[05:14] <IdleOne> no problem
[05:14] <BlueEagle> jordanau and goatmale: I don't think he's doing a survey.
[05:14] <chiefinnovator> It did ask me to run fsck when I restarted
[05:14] <goatmale> i was telling him to use ndisgtk
[05:15] <bruenig> !language
[05:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:15] <chiefinnovator> does that indicate a problem?
[05:15] <BlueEagle> !anyone
[05:15] <jordanau> BlueEagle, ...thanks for the info...
[05:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:15] <bruenig> !info ndisgtk
[05:15] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[05:15] <verbose> is there a way to uninstall all the X stuff and reinstall the way it was when i first installed? basically i've borked my X and can't get it fixed
[05:15] <Flannel> verbose: what's broken?
[05:15] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell verbose about xorgbug
[05:15] <cryptic^zazeem> can i get some help with alsa, just need someone to check somthing
[05:15] <bruenig> goatmale, ndisgtk is just a frontend for ndiswrapper. So it is not use ndisgtk instead of ndiswrapper as ndisgtk uses ndiswrapper itself
[05:15] <verbose> Flannel: i get EE no device detected
[05:16] <chiefinnovator> brb
[05:16] <bruenig> !ask
[05:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:16] <Flannel> verbose: right, that's probably related to the bug ubotu sent you info about
[05:16] <quintin> ndisgtk is the name ??? it's not in synaptic!
[05:16] <BlueEagle> !easysource
[05:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:16] <bruenig> !it is in universe
[05:16] <jordanau> quintin, what is your ndiswrapper question?
[05:16] <verbose> Flannel: cool, i'll try that
[05:16] <verbose> thanks
[05:16] <quintin> jordanau: how do i install ndisgtk
[05:16] <verbose> you too BlueEagle
[05:16] <BlueEagle> verbose: np. :)
[05:16] <goatmale> quintin update your sources.list
[05:17] <quintin> goatmale: how?
[05:17] <bruenig> quintin, you need to enable universe, follow this. after you have done this then search again https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-a86dddc6826cec4a3847d8441b24051d07b8dc64
[05:17] <jordanau> !sources
[05:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:18] <cryptic^zazeem> can i get some help with alsa, just need someone to check somthing
[05:18] <bruenig> !ask
[05:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cryptic^zazeem about anyone
[05:18] <cryptic^zazeem> >'
[05:18] <cryptic^zazeem> i c
[05:18] <boredelo> hey guys does anyone ever just ask to ask a question or do i need to wait and find someone to ask my question to?
[05:18] <cryptic^zazeem> how do i make sure im using alsa?
[05:19] <bruenig> !ask
[05:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:19] <boredelo> :)
[05:19] <IdleOne> enough with the !ask
[05:19] <cryptic^zazeem> what
[05:19] <bruenig> it applies constantly
[05:19] <xxpor2> whats the package name of apache1
[05:19] <Flannel> xxpor2: apache
[05:20] <xxpor2> o
[05:20] <xxpor2> thx
[05:20] <jordanau> !info apache > xxpor2
[05:20] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-2ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 808 kB
[05:20] <thebishop> is there a way to play WMV3 files?
[05:20] <bruenig> !restricted
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:20] <thebishop> i have everything from the Restricted media wiki
[05:21] <xxpor2> jordanau, i didnt get that mesage
[05:21] <bruenig> w32codecs
[05:21] <bruenig> ?
[05:21] <thebishop> yep
[05:21] <bruenig> it can be done, as I do it. But I only followed the restricted formats page myself
[05:22] <thebishop> my w32codecs package is 20060611-1pfl1
[05:23] <covOPprometheus> sup guys? anyone knows with what tag editor I can edit audio-files, so that the tags are recognized by Rhythmbox?
[05:23] <bruenig> actually on this install I used automatix, I forgot that. But before when I just followed the wiki, I believe I was able to do it then too
[05:23] <bruenig> !info cowbell
[05:23] <ubotu> cowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 540 kB
[05:24] <jordanau> covOPprometheus, easytag
[05:24] <covOPprometheus> thanks, but can I install it on breeze, I think I tried it once, with no positive result
[05:24] <bruenig> cowbell dominates all except you can'
[05:24] <bruenig> can't really change the name of songs just every other important tag
[05:24] <InnerF|RE> lol.. why do none of the gtks i download from gnome-look.org ever look like the picture
[05:24] <Glombool> Can anyone help me with an xserver problem?
[05:25] <jordanau> Glombool, whats the question
[05:25] <bruenig> Glombool, it isn't the update is it?
[05:25] <rpedro_> bruenig: have you tried picard ?
[05:25] <Glombool> Oh... i see the topic
[05:25] <Glombool> I'll check the bug
[05:25] <Glombool> stuff
[05:25] <Zambezi> Can anyone check if my vsftpd configurationfile is secure? http://pastebin.ca/145658
[05:25] <bruenig> I have only used cowbell and the command line program called id3 which never really is recognized by rhythmbox
[05:25] <Glombool> ..yes it is the update
[05:26] <covOPprometheus> yep, same probs here, but I'll try one called easytag, thanks
[05:26] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: try musicbrainz picard
[05:26] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix
[05:26] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[05:26] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: I'll give you the link in a sec
[05:26] <neddiW>  I have a problem that I cannot use the Synaptic, im running Ubuntu 6.06
[05:26] <kruncher> hello, my updater and synaptic are broken
[05:26] <kruncher> haha we both have the same problem
[05:26] <looktj> !logs
[05:26] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:26] <Glombool> thanks ubotu
[05:27] <bruenig> ubotu is a boot
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Glombool> ah
[05:27] <Glombool> makes sense
[05:27] <verbose> ok, so my xorg-server-core was already up to date(1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4) how can i get rid of all the changed stuff and go back to all defaults?
[05:27] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: here : http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload , but there should be an ubuntu repo, still searching...
[05:27] <waseda> hi all
[05:27] <withayanda> anyone know a bit about evolution?
[05:27] <bruenig> i did an apt-cache search picard and didn't find anything
[05:27] <jn> hey big problem here, i just installed updates (xorg was one) and now xwindows is not working
[05:27] <waseda> how can i enable bnep module in Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?
[05:28] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > jn
[05:28] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ modprobe bnep
[05:28] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ ifconfig bnep0
[05:28] <waseda> bnep0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:28] <kruncher> I just ran synaptic from the command line and it outputs this: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <bruenig> rhythmbox has its own tag editor where you right click on something and hit properties but it is prone to crash
[05:28] <jordanau> kruncher, gksudo synaptic?
[05:29] <bruenig> kruncher, synaptic requires root anyways so it wouldn't work
[05:29] <kruncher> i tried that
[05:29] <byen> hey guys, is there anyway i can control the fan on an IBM thinkpad? the issue is.. the fan does not turn on as often as they should
[05:29] <_azrael__> kruncher: sudo apt-get install libvte-common
[05:29] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:/$ sudo ifconfig bnep0 192.168.2.1
[05:29] <waseda> Password:
[05:29] <waseda> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[05:29] <waseda> bnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:29] <waseda> nmnguyet@ubuntu:/$
[05:29] <bruenig> !repeat
[05:29] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:29] <jordanau> !pastebin > waseda
[05:29] <baconbacon> install libvte-common maybe, dont know why it wouldnt be installed...
[05:29] <kruncher> libvte-common is already the newest version.
[05:29] <kruncher> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[05:29] <_azrael__> kruncher: sudo apt-get install libvte4
[05:29] <ubuntu> hi
[05:29] <withayanda> i can't seem to get all my email listed in my IMAP inbox on evolution
[05:29] <withayanda> any email, that is.
[05:29] <waseda> libvte-common?
[05:30] <baconbacon> ok apt-get --reinstall install it
[05:30] <waseda> i'll try
[05:30] <kruncher> Reinstallation of libvte4 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[05:30] <kruncher> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[05:30] <kruncher> that happons for both
[05:30] <ubuntu> install amd 64 bits suport flash player
[05:30] <ubuntu> ??
[05:30] <_azrael__> it cannot be downloaded? that seems odd.
[05:31] <jn> ty
[05:31] <ubuntu> speak spanish
[05:31] <Flannel> !es
[05:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:32] <bruenig> _ ubotu is polylingual
[05:32] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: add this line to your sources.list "deb http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/ubuntu dapper main", then do 'sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get install picard'
[05:32] <jordanau> !info i8kutils
[05:32] <ubotu> i8kutils: utilities for Dell Inspiron and Latitude laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.27 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 132 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[05:32] <bruenig> is picard good rpedro_?
[05:32] <jordanau> byen, ^^
[05:32] <_azrael__> kruncher: I'm not sure why it can't download. They download on my system.
[05:32] <rpedro_> bruenig: much better than cowbell I think
[05:33] <bruenig> I might try that. Cowbell gets on my nerves sometimes when it yells at me for editing too many songs at once.
[05:33] <katie> how do i fix this? (serpentine:4933): GStreamer-CRITICAL **:
[05:33] <katie> Trying to dispose element capsfilter21, but it is not in the NULL state.
[05:33] <byen> jordanau, would that work for an IBM and what does it fo?
[05:33] <kruncher> _azrael__: synaptic and the updater worked 2 days ago and then all the sudden it stopped working, around the time my sound stopped working (somehow my system had turned down the PCM to 0 all by its self).
[05:33] <waseda> baconbacon, reinstalled libvte4 but still that error
[05:34] <jordanau> byen, oh i thought you had a dell was't paying attention
[05:34] <_azrael__> kruncher: Did you use automatix or something that messes with sources.list?
[05:34] <kruncher> _azrael__: nope, ive done nothing out of the ordarny
[05:34] <bruenig> repedro, what is the gpg key
[05:34] <byen> np jordanau :D
[05:34] <katie> k3b works...serpentine doesnt
[05:35] <Warbo> As0ka: You still here? I've been away. About Freenet: I use the older version, before the DarkNet thingy
[05:35] <quintin> Can someone please help me locate which files I need to get ndiswrapper going?  I need to find the right inf files
[05:35] <dr_willis> i though the fix was to remove and reinstall  libvte4-common (or was it libvte-common)
[05:35] <Phoenix_> Hi all. Came here to fix X and the info is at top of my Chatzilla window. Excellent!
[05:35] <quintin> I think maybe the INF I need is in a .exe on the cd.... the others have text that does not seem applicable
[05:35] <_azrael__> kruncher: I can help you fix the pcm if you haven't already, but I'm not sure why it can't download the libvte
[05:35] <kruncher> _azrael__: the sources.list looks normal
[05:35] <As0ka> Warbo, you do? Some other guy said that Freenet is slow and is only really good for kiddie porn. lol what's your take?
[05:35] <Warbo> Phoenix_: I think you're the only person who has read the topic without being told to :)
[05:35] <_azrael__> kruncher: Have you run a sudo apt-get update yet?
[05:36] <kruncher> _azrael__: I fixed the sound myself, but yeah im still having issues
[05:36] <katie> do ppl answer hardware questions here?
[05:36] <sethk> Phoenix_, you get to ask two dumb questions without being insulted
[05:36] <kruncher> _azrael__: yeah i tried that yesterday when the update-notifier showed up and didnt work
[05:36] <sethk> katie, only if someone asks one
[05:36] <Phoenix_> Thanks. I'm downloading the fix now and soon to test.
[05:36] <kruncher> _azrael__: apt-get works but not the other 2
[05:36] <Phoenix_> thanks for the kind welcome guys.
[05:36] <Warbo> As0ka: I find it too slow for any file sharing, but I like to hang around in the Usenet-type system. There are some interesting, and often weird, conversations that go on there :)
[05:36] <phargle> i say old chap
[05:36] <bruenig> rpedro_, what is the gpg key for the picard repo
[05:36] <sethk> katie, what's the question?
[05:37] <katie> sethk: can you help me with my serpentine issue?
[05:37] <covOPprometheus> how I open sources.list?
[05:37] <sethk> katie, I didn't see it, just got here
[05:37] <As0ka> Warbo: I see, cool cool.
[05:37] <covOPprometheus> vim where?
[05:37] <katie> (serpentine:4933): GStreamer-CRITICAL **:
[05:37] <katie> Trying to dispose element capsfilter21, but it is not in the NULL state.
[05:37] <kwak> covOPprometheus: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <Warbo> covOPprometheus: Graphical: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" command line: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:37] <sethk> covOPprometheus, any editor; it is in /etc/apt
[05:37] <kwak> oopps i miss that
[05:37] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: to edit your sources list press <alt>+<F2> , then type in 'gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' , and you can type in the 'deb' line I gave you at the bottom , without the quoutes (")
[05:38] <katie> sethk:  i put a bunch of wave files in serpentine and it wont burn on the cd
[05:38] <rpedro_> bruenig: dunno, how do I check?
[05:38] <covOPprometheus> hehehe thanks
[05:38] <kwak> anybody knows how to install flashplugin? i tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-non
[05:38] <_azrael__> kruncher: The other two don't work because they're dependent on libvte.
[05:38] <kwak> but failed. says, couldn't find
[05:38] <bruenig> rpedro_, nevermind, I found the page
[05:38] <katie> sethk:  it burns in k3b though
[05:38] <waseda> dr_willis, even reinstalled libvte-common, still "bnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:38] <Warbo> kwak: 1) You need Multiverse, 2) flashplugin-nonfree
[05:38] <bruenig> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 92132F7B
[05:38] <bruenig> gpg --export --armor 92132F7B | sudo apt-key add -
[05:38] <rpedro_> bruenig: where is it? can you give the url ?
[05:38] <sethk> katie, that's deep in the guts; it's related to the encoding.  let me see if I can find anything more specific
[05:38] <bruenig> make sure you tell that to whoever else you were helping
[05:38] <bruenig> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardLinuxInstall#head-5f60c040c32c67c304b335181b88678ad34149c2
[05:38] <kruncher> _azrael__: what would cause that file to go missing all the sudden and is there a way to fix it?
[05:39] <sethk> katie, it's clearly an error in the program.
[05:39] <_azrael__> kruncher: 1.) I don't know. 2.) The way to fix it is to apt-get install --reinstall libvte4
[05:39] <_azrael__> kruncher: unfortunately, you said that failed.
[05:39] <sethk> katie, but I would have to get into the source code to figure out exactly what it means.  Can you just use k3b?
[05:39] <Warbo> Missing files? Tried lost+found?
[05:39] <donk3y> is there a command I can run to see if my install of ubuntu is detecting my firewire port?
[05:40] <Phoenix_> X is up & running. This has been the only hiccup in the easiest to use & learn (IMHO) Linuc distro to date.
[05:40] <kruncher> haha great, ubuntus starting to act like windows, wonderful
[05:40] <sethk> donk3y, it should appear in the dmesg output
[05:40] <katie> sethk: yes...i just have to instruct my friend how to use it...serpentine was working at one point
[05:40] <sethk> donk3y, probably lsmod will show a module for it
[05:40] <Acidfk> just go to System Preferences
[05:40] <rpedro_> covOPprometheus: after you edit your sources.list, also type in the commands bruenig gave ^^
[05:40] <IcemanV9> did someone succeed with rdesktop from ubuntu box to winxp home ed box??
[05:40] <Acidfk> and chek the port firewire
[05:40] <sethk> katie, I'll take a look, but odds are I won't be able to do much
[05:40] <donk3y> sethk: what would I be looking for?
[05:40] <bruenig> rpedro_, what is the deal, Do i need an account and will it but me for ten dollars everytime?
[05:40] <bruenig> bug*
[05:41] <_azrael__> kruncher: Sorry, I don't know why that happened. I've never had any similar issues.
[05:41] <sethk> donk3y, a message that the firewire chip is detected and initialized
[05:41] <sethk> donk3y, you can also look in /sys
[05:41] <katie> sethk: there are errors when i run k3b but it seems to work...like it says that i should not be running kernel 2.6.x it should be 2.4
[05:41] <baconbacon> donkey : search dmesg or lspci for fire
[05:41] <rpedro_> bruenig: you can make an account for free, you only donate if you want
[05:41] <donk3y> ok in lsmod what would be the abreviation for firewire
[05:41] <sethk> katie, k3b does?
[05:41] <sethk> katie, are you sure?  can you paste the error?
[05:41] <baconbacon> hmm no that wouldn't be fireanything
[05:42] <baconbacon> sorry
[05:42] <katie> yes if i run it in command prompt
[05:42] <rpedro_> bruenig: but the nag screen stays unfortunately ;-S
[05:42] <Lane> How bad is it for a sata drive(or an ata drive) to sit on a book(non metallic) surface while it runs
[05:42] <katie> sethk:  just a minute
[05:42] <sethk> baconbacon, donk3y I forget the denotation for firewire, it is IEEE something or other
[05:42] <Phoenix_> I'll be back to check this channel properly. Toowomba, Australia says bye.
[05:42] <bruenig> hmmm, well if it is open source perhaps I can make that a thing of the past
[05:42] <sethk> katie, ok
[05:42] <booo> is raid5 software raid possible with ubuntu i wanna use 4x 250gb on sata for my os...
[05:43] <baconbacon> !raid > booo
[05:43] <rpedro_> bruenig: yeah ;) guess so...
[05:43] <booo> baconbacon is that a yes?
[05:43] <booo> before i read
[05:43] <baconbacon> i have absolutely no idea
[05:43] <booo> ok
[05:44] <byen> Guys, my fan does not start unless my lappy goes balzing hot.. how can i fix this?
[05:44] <rimiliminil> dont hold it in your lap?
[05:44] <booo> bios?
[05:44] <quintin> So... anyone know where to find INF file or driver for this wireless card?
[05:44] <byen> bruenig, abt 80C
[05:45] <byen> its an IBM thinkpad
[05:45] <quintin> It say it supported with ndiswrapper but I need the right driver
[05:45] <bruenig> 80C, gees
[05:45] <rimiliminil> ah the thinkpad
[05:45] <byen> bruenig, and that is while browsing
[05:45] <rimiliminil> where's the thinklinux channel?  i've been looking for it and can't remember what server it used to be on
[05:45] <bruenig> well don't put it in you lap like rimiliminil said, that can't be good for sperm count
[05:45] <booo> anyone here operating on a raid level 5 for their os?
[05:46] <rimiliminil> i checked thinkwiki too
[05:46] <byen> bruenig, oh..
[05:46] <knapper> I am having problems running VLC, I get " No suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)"
[05:46] <katie> sethk:  now it just says no database...different error than b4
[05:46] <sethk> katie, if it's one line, paste the line
[05:46] <bruenig> knapper, sudo apt-get install wxvlc
[05:47] <knapper> bruenig, I have done this and it is installed. Still nothing.
[05:47] <katie> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:47] <knapper> bruenig, getting same error
[05:47] <rimiliminil> what's the "wx" about, i've gotta set up a thinkpad to play movies my friend's windows machine doesn't like
[05:47] <katie> Error: "/tmp/kde-katie" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 1000.
[05:47] <aSt3raL> for some reason i can ping out but firefox wont work
[05:47] <aSt3raL> any ideas?
[05:47] <bruenig> knapper, sudo apt-get install wx-common?
[05:48] <IcemanV9> byen: try to type acpi -t in the terminal -- see if it starts up fan or not
[05:48] <aSt3raL> i can ping but no other applications can access the internet
[05:48] <rimiliminil> tho it might be more complicated than that coz my windows machine doesn't mind playing these same movies
[05:48] <rimiliminil> oh nevermind it's gotta be something else
[05:48] <Zambezi> Can anyone see if my configurationfile to vsftp is secure? http://pastebin.ca/145658
[05:48] <rimiliminil> everything reminds me of fifty things i still want to fix..
[05:48] <aSt3raL> i can use firefox from windows xp fine but firefox wont load pages when i boot into ubuntu
[05:49] <IcemanV9> byen: also, it'll tell ya the temp of your tp
[05:49] <PhilDick> How do I edit the right-mouse-button menu (i.e. right click on empty desktop)?
[05:49] <aSt3raL> sometimes firefox will load google but thats it
[05:49] <wikijeff> What plugin/package do I need to install to watch .avi and .mov files in firefox when a webpage embeds them?
[05:49] <byen> byen@xblade:/$  acpi   Battery 1: charged, 99%    Thermal 1: ok, 77.0 degrees C
[05:49] <byen> IcemanV9, ^
[05:49] <aSt3raL> anyone have a clue?
[05:50] <byen> does not turn on the fan though
[05:50] <IcemanV9> byen: no? dang. i have tp here. it's running cool 40c
[05:50] <sean_> totem play's .AVI and .MOV right
[05:50] <sean_> ?
[05:50] <sean_> if so
[05:50] <sean_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Totem.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:50] <IcemanV9> byen: is something running amok on your tp??
[05:50] <wikijeff> sean, thanks
[05:50] <sean_> for whoever asked how you can play .mov and .avi in firefox
[05:50] <byen> IcemanV9, this is a fresh install
[05:51] <rimiliminil> byan: can yuo change its mind about "ok"?
[05:51] <aSt3raL> can someone help with this networking problem please
[05:51] <sean_> ubuntu forums down?
[05:51] <katie> sethk:  is there anyway to play music on my ipod transferring from ubuntu?  i see my ipod disk but i dont know where to put it so that it is visible on the ipod
[05:51] <rimiliminil> aSt: i dont know
[05:51] <PhilDick> I can't get ubuntu forums right now...
[05:51] <sean_> it's down
[05:51] <PhilDick> sean_ ...
[05:51] <sethk> katie, that I don't know.  I would assume you just copy an mp3 file
[05:51] <PhilDick> *nod*
[05:51] <xepher> tis true
[05:52] <IcemanV9> byen: something must be running wild in bg processes. check 'top' in the terminal
[05:52] <katie> sethk:  hmm it doesnt show up on the ipod firmware
[05:52] <Sivananda> Greetings peeps. Dumb question probably, but how the heck do I highlight *my* posts in IRC when using xchat?
[05:52] <rimiliminil> katie, can you see anything in the ipod in your file browser?
[05:52] <sethk> katie, sorry, I don't have an ipod so I've never had to figure it out
[05:52] <sethk> katie, send me an ipod and I'll figure it out for you  :)
[05:52] <sean_> anybody have an idea on how to uninstall XGL on Dapper?
[05:52] <katie> rimiliminil:  yes and it plays in ubuntu off the ipod in disk mode
[05:52] <PhilDick> I was just playing with my ipod in disk mode... the docs said the music wasn't accessible to the disk mode section.  But I'm completely unclear on the underlying structure.
[05:53] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-xgl
[05:53] <dr_willis> sean_,  heh - reverse the isntall directions?
[05:53] <katie> rimiliminil:  getting it to play on the ipod mini is the problem
[05:53] <wirelain> what is the name of the file browser executable?
[05:53] <rimiliminil> ohh.....
[05:53] <IcemanV9> byen: it happened to me a few times especially wine. i noticed the temp shot up when there are rogue processes running away.
[05:54] <PhilDick> I think the file browser executable is going to be nautilus, wirelain... ?
[05:54] <booo> buntu will NOT do MB RAID. If you set it up on the MB
[05:54] <rob_p> aSt3raL, So you can ping domain names, or just IP addresses?
[05:54] <booo> is this true?
[05:54] <|thunder> rob, both
[05:54] <aSt3raL> i can ping domain names
[05:54] <|thunder> IP is better because it dosnt have to resolve
[05:54] <wirelain> PhilDick: Thanks ...
[05:54] <aSt3raL> and the dns resolves to the ip address
[05:54] <coder_> Hmmm... why has my terminal's font become ugly?
[05:54] <rimiliminil> katie: i'm nt even sure i'm visualising this right... you're hooked up via usb to the ipod & you want it to play a file on the machine ?
[05:54] <coder_> And my mouse ugly?
[05:55] <rimiliminil> er the debian machine?
[05:55] <aSt3raL> but for some reason firefox wont load anything
[05:55] <PhilDick> Anyone know how to edit the  right-mouse-button menu on the main desktop?  Seems like it should be easy, but I've had no luck...
[05:55] <|thunder> katie, gtkpod is nice
[05:55] <sethk> aSt3raL, what happens?
[05:55] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Is it configured to use a proxy, perhaps?
[05:55] <rimiliminil> aSt: do you have any blockers or messages or anything to troubleshoot from (more info)
[05:55] <baconbacon> hmm aSt3raL, check proxy settings in ... bah
[05:55] <aSt3raL> no proxy
[05:55] <aSt3raL> i did
[05:56] <aSt3raL> no proxy its set on direct connect
[05:56] <aSt3raL> www.google.com loads
[05:56] <aSt3raL> in firefox and nothing else
[05:56] <dr_willis> PhilDick,  ask the #gnome guys. they will proberly say such a feature would be confusing for new users.
[05:56] <covOPprometheus> well, same problem still, I need a manual tag editor for editing audio files (not id3-tags)
[05:56] <rimiliminil> aSt: would you want to try any other browsers to troubleshoot?
[05:56] <aSt3raL> all i have is the default install
[05:56] <aSt3raL> the weird thing is that it was working fine
[05:56] <PhilDick> Dr Willis thanks.  Yes, my first impressions of "modern" gnome have been pretty low.
[05:57] <knapper> bruenig, getting same error :(
[05:57] <aSt3raL> its intermittant
[05:57] <rob_p> aSt3raL, What was the last thing you did, before you noticed that it stopped working?
[05:57] <rimiliminil> aSt: before what?
[05:57] <PhilDick> how do you do a tell on IRC?
[05:57] <rimiliminil> forward slash nick
[05:57] <aSt3raL> i downloaded all the updates
[05:57] <jbroome> /say
[05:57] <rimiliminil> oh
[05:57] <rimiliminil> what is a tell?
[05:57] <rimiliminil> PhilDick thhsuioehfd
[05:57] <rimiliminil> hrm
[05:57] <PhilDick> I meant a private message
[05:57] <aSt3raL> so i downloaded all the updates for the fresh install of ubuntu on a desktop
[05:57] <PhilDick> I think /nick is what I had in mind.
[05:57] <rimiliminil> forward slash msg nick
[05:57] <sean_> uhh nobody answered me in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:57] <sean_> so uhh
[05:58] <aSt3raL> im on a laptop in xp now
[05:58] <sean_> how do i uninstall XGL
[05:58] <thompa> does someone know of a link to the repository list
[05:58] <rimiliminil> yea i forgot to say msg
[05:58] <jbroome> oh.  /msg nick what's happenin'
[05:58] <Zambezi> Is there a grafic FTP client which supports Implicit SSL?
[05:58] <knapper> I am having problems running VLC, I have installed vlc, wxvlc, vlc plugins and wx-common. When I run vlc I get "No suitable dialogs provider found "
[05:58] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Well, if it's truly intermittant, then it's going to be tough to troubleshoot!
[05:58] <Flannel> sean_: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:58] <thompa> !edgy
[05:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:58] <aSt3raL> i couldnt figure out what caused the problem so i booted my laptop into ubuntu
[05:58] <aSt3raL> and there was the same problem
[05:58] <rimiliminil> knapper i'm not sure what the error message means yet, it seems like a subtitles gripe
[05:58] <rimiliminil> or interface
[05:58] <thompa> so far edgy works best
[05:58] <rimiliminil> ?
[05:59] <knapper> here is the full error " skins2 interface error: No suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)"
[05:59] <thompa> wiat till you try amd64
[05:59] <aSt3raL> laptop was doing the same thing pings fine but no firefox
[05:59] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Oh.  So this happens under Windows too?
[05:59] <aSt3raL> no winxp has no porblem
[05:59] <aSt3raL> firefox works fine
[05:59] <rimiliminil> knapper: i dont have a man handy for vlx what does it say the dialogue provider refers to?
[05:59] <rimiliminil> knapper: oh skins
[05:59] <shadowwlf> where does xchat store logs at?
[06:00] <Jbirk> I got wine working sort of
[06:00] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3)
[06:00] <knapper> rimiliminil, so install a new skin?
[06:00] <covOPprometheus> ?
[06:00] <rimiliminil> knapper: it's a gui thing,  this is spankin new territory for me
[06:00] <aSt3raL> this is a hell of a problem
[06:00] <Hexidigital> shadowwlf: ~/.xchat
[06:00] <Hexidigital> shadowwlf: or ~/.xchat2
[06:00] <shadowwlf> Hexidigital,  thanks
[06:00] <aSt3raL> its probably this pos actiontec dsl modem/ router/ wireless
[06:00] <Hexidigital> shadowwlf: np
[06:00] <knapper> haha
[06:00] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Ok, so now I'm confused.  First you said that you couldn't figure out what caused the problem, so then you booted up to Ubuntu... That implies that you were having issues under the other OS too.
[06:01] <aSt3raL> no
[06:01] <aSt3raL> i just wanted to see if it was a hardware problem with the desktop machine
[06:01] <rimiliminil> so far the result is i've learned pork & converted bookmarks to use in lynx :)
[06:01] <rob_p> aSt3raL, ...and you desktop is running Ubuntu?
[06:02] <aSt3raL> yeah
[06:02] <rob_p> aSt3raL, But you don't notice any issues with the other OS, correct?
[06:02] <aSt3raL> i just moved the dsl modem to a different phone jack and plugged a usb wireless nic into the desktop box
[06:03] <rimiliminil> knapper: as someone new to the gui i'm guessing, but i'd be wondering why my default vlc install has anything to gripe about w/widget sets
[06:03] <aSt3raL> and ubuntu crashes when i try and activate it
[06:03] <zoidberg> hey guys
[06:03] <aSt3raL> haha
[06:03] <zoidberg> what do i need to download using apt-get install to play wmv files in a Firefox
[06:03] <aSt3raL> maybe i should try it tomorrow when i have more patience
[06:03] <zoidberg> ?
[06:04] <knapper> rimiliminil: I got this straight from the repository, with that said, it came with a custom skin, a macish looking skin.
[06:04] <knapper> odd
[06:04] <yinepuhotep> Have you tried the w32codecs, aSt3raL?
[06:04] <aSt3raL> uh yeah..
[06:04] <zoidberg> what do i need to download using apt-get install to play wmv files in a Firefox
[06:04] <aSt3raL> i dont think that has anything to do with my problem though heh
[06:04] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Perhaps you shouldn't be introducing new variables... keep the configuration as is until you track down what the problem is.
[06:04] <aSt3raL> rob_p: good idea
[06:04] <wirelain> so far though, ubuntu has been great, and if it can do the usb scanner, will be outstanding.
[06:05] <wirelain> and the file browser was nautilus ...
[06:05] <rimiliminil> katie: areyou truing to get iTunes-like action w/you ipod or just having trouble copying a file to it?
[06:05] <knapper> rimiliminil, I figured it out. Damn repositories.
[06:05] <zoidberg> hey guys
[06:05] <rob_p> aSt3raL, No.  I don't either but nonetheless...  it's probably easier on your nerves...  :-)
[06:05] <rimiliminil> repositories?
[06:05] <zoidberg> what is a media player (and plugin) that i can use to play wmv files in Firefox?
[06:05] <aSt3raL> brb moving the modem back in here
[06:05] <rimiliminil> give me a hint, it'll help when i get there
[06:05] <rimiliminil> asfplayer?
[06:06] <yinepuhotep> So you're doing better than I am, it sounds like. I can't get my system to install any new packages. At all. Every installation attempt gets me the exact same error. (continues)
[06:06] <lee__> how do i dl torrent files
[06:06] <rimiliminil> with a bittorrent client
[06:06] <lee__> whwrre can i get that
[06:06] <yinepuhotep> dpkg: error processing <package name> (--install): Verification on <package name> failed!
[06:06] <knapper> rimiliminil, I take it back. That didn't work either.
[06:07] <yinepuhotep> lee__, have you tried intalling bittornado?
[06:07] <lee__> what didnt work
[06:07] <knapper> rimiliminil, can you tell me if VLC comes with a custom skin, the one in the official repository?
[06:07] <lee__> vlc works for ubuntu
[06:08] <rimiliminil> i thought vlc handled all it's own stuff pretty much
[06:08] <kruncher> _azrael__: i searched my computer for libvte and i found /usr/lib/libvte9 when all i can find on packages.ubuntu.com is /usr/lib/libvte4, why is the number diffrent?
[06:08] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Some have reported that firefox's IPv6 support causes connectivity issues...  Maybe disabling that will help.
[06:08] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:08] <aSt3raL_> back
[06:08] <rimiliminil> knapper: i can only offer my own looking & guessing on that one
[06:08] <yinepuhotep> bittornado and azureus are both good bittorrent clients. Azureus requires Java to work, though.
[06:08] <rimiliminil> knapper: i'm used to thinking of vlc as nice & self-contained though
[06:08] <aSt3raL_> ok i got the desktop machine hooked to the router via ethernet
[06:09] <knapper> rimiliminil, I understand
[06:09] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Some have reported that firefox's IPv6 support causes connectivity issues...  Maybe disabling that will help.
[06:09] <aSt3raL_> how do i disable that?
[06:09] <rimiliminil> knapper: coolio :)
[06:09] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Have you tried it yet?
[06:09] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Open firefox and in the URL bar, type, "about:config"
[06:10] <rimiliminil> aSt: i remember seeing it somewhere in configs, so it's in there.. sorry not more specific
[06:10] <rob_p> aSt3raL, ...then, in the filter bar, type, "ipv6"
[06:10] <urmom> im running ubuntu on an ibook g4 and it boots linux by default, is there a way to get osx to boot on default?
[06:10] <urmom> im using yaboot
[06:10] <aSt3raL_> in the firefox prefrences?
[06:10] <rimiliminil> yaboot configs?
[06:11] <jordanau> urmom, instal grub and change the boot order?
[06:11] <raknam> hey do i need to enable some non-listed repositories to install opera through synaptic package manager?
[06:11] <urmom> i wold prefer to just keep the way it is
[06:11] <urmom> but where is the config located
[06:11] <Flannel> !tell raknam about opera
[06:11] <jordanau> raknam, have you installed universe and multiverse?
[06:11] <Jbirk> I want to pimp my gurb config to show a picture of me
[06:11] <Jbirk> how do I do that
[06:11] <jordanau> Jbirk, you mean your bootsplash?
[06:11] <rukuartic> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu Server iso contains setup for wireless configurations?
[06:12] <Flannel> urmom: you'll have to find people who are familiar with yaboot
[06:12] <rob_p> aSt3raL, ...then double-click the, "network.dns.disable.IPv6" so that it changes to, "user set, boolean, true"
[06:12] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:12] <rob_p> aSt3raL, No.  Not in the prefs.
[06:12] <aSt3raL_> ok check this out
[06:12] <knapper> rimiliminil, im gonna download vlc and complie from source
[06:12] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Ok, again,  open firefox and type, "about:config" in the URL and hit enter.
[06:13] <rimiliminil> oh hey here's one yall can help me with coz i have to set up another thinkpad... is it better form to use something else to reformat a disk before trying to install ubuntu or should one's ubuntu .iso cd be able to handle this?
[06:13] <aSt3raL_> this time: www.google.com loads and news.google.com wont connect
[06:13] <DigitalNinja> are there any disaster recovery tools for ubuntu?
[06:13] <rimiliminil> knapper: using .configure?
[06:13] <aSt3raL_> it almost seems like its a dns issue
[06:13] <Lard-O-Lad> ty for the chan topic! (had an issue with X)
[06:13] <bernardo> Is 144GB large enough for 2 partitions, one being Ubuntu and another being Windows xp?
[06:13] <rob_p> aSt3raL, stay with me man...
[06:13] <knapper> rimiliminil, ?
[06:13] <rob_p> aSt3raL, :-)
[06:13] <Jbirk> Yes, I mean my bootsplash
[06:13] <Jbirk> how do I set that?
[06:13] <yinepuhotep> Depends on what you're putting in them, bernardo.
[06:13] <bernardo> Anyone?
[06:13] <aSt3raL_> ok i disabled ipv6
[06:13] <bernardo> oh, not too much
[06:14] <bernardo> At the moment my current Usage is 44gb
[06:14] <rimiliminil> knapper: i only recently got into debian, i was always using configure to install before that
[06:14] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Ok.
[06:14] <aSt3raL_> it works now
[06:14] <rob_p> aSt3raL, Any luck with it?
[06:14] <jordanau> Jbirk, there are a bunch of howto's on ubuntuforums.org
[06:14] <aSt3raL_> that was the problem
[06:14] <aSt3raL_> thanks a ton!
[06:14] <rimiliminil> well leaning really heavily on setting up the initial installation with everything too
[06:14] <yinepuhotep> If you don't have a lot of stuff in either, you should be able to cram them in. But beware: file collections expand to fill the space you have, adn then some.
[06:14] <knapper> rimiliminil: Oh yes, using configure.
[06:14] <aSt3raL_> well see if it keeps working.. i think it will
[06:14] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:14] <bernardo> Yinepuhotep, cram them in? :S
[06:15] <bernardo> I won
[06:15] <bernardo> won't have much space at all?
[06:15] <rimiliminil> knapper: okie.. i still remember appreciating configure a bunch :)
[06:15] <rukuartic> Does anyone know where I can find a package list for the 6.06 server iso?
[06:15] <dibblego> what can I use to scan wireless networks?
[06:15] <rob_p> aSt3raL, fingers are crossed!
[06:15] <aSt3raL_> iwlist eth0 scan
[06:15] <dibblego> and specifically what channel they are using
[06:15] <DShepherd> rukuartic: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:16] <rukuartic> DShepherd: Thanks mate!
[06:16] <urmom> i found a page which helps me but thnx guys
[06:16] <yinepuhotep> bernardo: yeah, I'm used to running 140GB just for my XP partition, and 200GB for my Linux partition. But I know it's possible to fit stuff on less, because I used to have both divided between a 60GB drive.
[06:16] <aSt3raL_> dibblego: iwlist device scan
[06:16] <dibblego> aSt3raL, thanks
[06:16] <aSt3raL_> np
[06:16] <rimiliminil> bernardo: i have an url around here somewhere for installing xp and ubuntu on 30gb
[06:16] <Ropechoborra> 631/tcp ipp CUPS 1.2 <--- What service is that?? Printer?? how do i close that port?
[06:16] <dibblego> aSt3raL, is it normal for it to return immediately with "No scan results"?
[06:16] <yinepuhotep> bernardo: just be sure that your /boot partition is the very first one on your drive. If you do that, you can do just about anything with the rest of the drive.
[06:16] <rukuartic> DShepherd: does the server iso have the same packages as the desktop iso?
[06:16] <bernardo> rimiliminil, may i have that?
[06:16] <Flannel> rukuartic: not all of them, no
[06:16] <rimiliminil> shuah, looking for it
[06:16] <bernardo> Thank you yine
[06:17] <bernardo> I've never done this before, first time working with partitions.
[06:17] <aSt3raL_> anyone got a url for a repositry list?
[06:17] <rimiliminil> barnardo: i'd take advice here first if it conflicts with the article since these folks are actually here :)
[06:17] <jordanau> packages.ubuntu.org
[06:17] <jordanau> sorry i think it is .com
[06:17] <rukuartic> Flannel: I'm just wondering if they have the wireless tools... the wrapper program (forgot the name ><) and iwtools
[06:17] <bernardo> Ok
[06:18] <Flannel> rukuartic: ndiswrapper?  You'd have to check the manifest, which you should be able to view at the same place you download the ISO
[06:18] <rukuartic> Flannel: Thats it :D the manifest contains package information?
[06:18] <yinepuhotep> Now for my question: How do you get dpkg to recognize the trusted file? I know that's the problem, because I have to use --force to make it not check keys in order to install ANY files.
[06:18] <zoidberg> hey can someone help me out with a problem i'm having installing mplayer?
[06:18] <Flannel> rukuartic: sort of, but yeah.  Not on the desktop ISO, but for the textmode installers, yes.
[06:19] <Jbirk> how do I set my boot splash?
[06:19] <yinepuhotep> You should do ok, bernardo.  We've all sweated over the stress of stuff like that when doing new installs.
[06:19] <thompa> zoidberg: playing or installing
[06:19] <zoidberg> installing
[06:20] <rukuartic> Flannel: Ah, so there's no way to know until then eh? :P What exactly does the server do differently besides skipping X and gnome?
[06:20] <zoidberg> this is the message i get
[06:20] <zoidberg> zoidberg@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:20] <zoidberg> Reading package lists... Done
[06:20] <zoidberg> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:20] <zoidberg> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:20] <zoidberg> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:20] <zoidberg> is only available from another source
[06:20] <thompa> well i just did it, you need to follow the restricted page
[06:20] <zoidberg> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[06:20] <Lard-O-Lad> Jbirk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_display_Splash_Image_for_GRUB_menu_on_boot-up
[06:20] <thompa> !dvd
[06:20] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:20] <Flannel> rukuartic: Well, you can know for the server and alternate, not the desktop ISO though, since it's not formatted the same way.
[06:20] <bernardo> Thanks for all your help.
[06:20] <Flannel> zoidberg: don't paste here
[06:20] <zoidberg> sorry
[06:20] <rimiliminil> bernardo: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[06:21] <zoidberg> thompa, can you help me out
[06:21] <DShepherd> !info mplayer
[06:21] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[06:21] <thompa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:21] <Flannel> zoidberg: mplayer is in multiverse, you'll need to enable it
[06:21] <rimiliminil> ber: it's not exactly what you're doing, hopefully it helps
[06:21] <thompa> did you do that first?
[06:21] <zoidberg> where in sources.list?
[06:21] <Flannel> zoidberg: it's not in there, you need to type it yourself
[06:22] <zoidberg> what do i need to type and where?
[06:22] <knapper> What other programs out there will play a cue/bin besides vlan?
[06:22] <thompa> zoidberg: need to enable reposiyoties in synaptic
[06:22] <DShepherd> zoidberg: running gnome?
[06:22] <PhilDick> How do I check if I have a certain package installed?  I'm used to using rpm...
[06:22] <rimiliminil> aww damn it impatient queries tick me off...
[06:22] <flipfone> ?? how do i load/start mdnsd daemon
[06:22] <zoidberg> no fluxbox
[06:22] <thompa> *repositories .. too dark in here
[06:22] <dr_willis> PhilDick,  fire up synaptic and search :P
[06:22] <zoidberg> i've downloaded stuff from universal repositories already though
[06:22] <zoidberg> like vlc
[06:22] <Krankily> !info beagle
[06:22] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[06:23] <zoidberg> and scummvm
[06:23] <DShepherd> zoidberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[06:23] <zoidberg> why isnt this working
[06:23] <Flannel> zoidberg: add "multiverse" after the "universe" in your sources.list
[06:23] <thompa> zoidberg: did you search and find mplayer first
[06:23] <zoidberg> how do i search for mplayer?
[06:23] <Krankily> How can I tell if Beagle is working?
[06:23] <Flannel> zoidberg: you need to enable the repository first
[06:23] <DShepherd> zoidberg: link above ^^^^
[06:23] <thompa> zoidberg: open synaptic, click search
[06:24] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:24] <DShepherd>  thompa mplayer is in multiverse.. he just has universe
[06:24] <DShepherd> zoidberg: the link that I sent you shows you how to add multiverse.. check it out
[06:25] <Krankily> And for that matter how do I know Wine is working?
[06:25] <digger> anyone know when nfs mount specified in the fstab are mounted during boot?
[06:25] <Flannel> Krankily: because you can run windows programs in it ;)
[06:25] <dr_willis> Krankily,  download some little windows program. and wine whatever.exe
[06:25] <thompa> .. its just settings: repositories from the menu, just click everything
[06:25] <Krankily> Ah.. need to test it out
[06:26] <Flannel> thompa: no, multiverse needs to be typed in
[06:26] <DShepherd> Krankily: winamp.. or google talk is a good try
[06:26] <PhilDick> OK, so I run synaptic, search for nautilus-actions, and it shows up in the left column...
[06:26] <BSG75> anyone know how I can customize the look of ubuntu? ie: more themes etc?
[06:26] <PhilDick> 1) Does that mean it's installed?
[06:26] <Krankily> Know anything about beagle?
[06:26] <Ropechoborra> Question: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j DROP <-- Isnt this for closing icmp ?? (for rejecting pings) ???
[06:26] <zoidberg> thompa, i think i have to type in the multiverse lines
[06:26] <zoidberg> does anyone know what the lines are....for powerpc breezy?
[06:26] <DShepherd> Flannel: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html <-- he can here. zoidberg go there..
[06:26] <PhilDick> 2) Is there a way to get a list of installed packages from the commandline?
[06:27] <Flannel> zoidberg: ADD multiverse after each universe, read links.  Plenty of people have told you.
[06:27] <digger> phildisk: dplk -l
[06:27] <digger> dpkg -l
[06:27] <PhilDick> muchos gracias!
[06:27] <digger> np
[06:27] <dr_willis> Nachos Grande!
[06:27] <digger> Yo quiro....
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> anyone using superkaramba?
[06:28] <dr_willis> 'nessicato el bano' (thats about all i rember from spanish 101)
[06:28] <PhilDick> So if I have this right, I can't edit the right-mouse-button menu on my gnome desktop without installing nautilus-actions
[06:28] <rob_p> Ropechoborra, There's more to icmp than just echo-request/echo-reply (pings).  You probably don't want to block all incoming icmp traffic...
[06:28] <DShepherd> DigitalNinja: you on kubuntu?
[06:28] <Ropechoborra> dr_willis thats nothing in spanish =/
[06:28] <covOPprometheus> dr_willis that is kinda everything but spanish
[06:28] <yinepuhotep> PhilDick: Are you just looking to edit the wallpaper? Or more general than that?
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> DShepherd: No. I'm not even using kde. I'm a gnome user
[06:29] <Ropechoborra> rob_p i typed that command.. but didnt do anything
[06:29] <dr_willis> covOPprometheus,  my class was 20 yrs ago. :P
[06:29] <covOPprometheus> hehe np
[06:29] <dr_willis> covOPprometheus,  'Un churro por favore' :)
[06:29] <dugryce> hello i have a networking question
[06:29] <Ropechoborra> dr_willis lol... i got it... necesito ir al bao may be :P ;)
[06:29] <digger> I need to know something about the boot sequence - any experts here?
[06:29] <yinepuhotep> Oh. Nevermind. I missed the full statement.
[06:29] <covOPprometheus> dr_willis, por favor, favore is italian
[06:29] <PhilDick> yinepuhotep no, I want to edit the menu that comes up when you click the right mouse button on the desktop... I want to add other apps to that menu.
[06:29] <thompa> zoidberg: are you wanting to watch a dvd
[06:29] <DShepherd> DigitalNinja: i think superkaramba is a kde app
[06:29] <DigitalNinja> DShepherd: I would like to configure the theems but that option is disabled.
[06:29] <dugryce> i am using a wireless router and the  connection won't take
[06:30] <DShepherd> DigitalNinja: you can try asking the guys in #kubuntu. I bet someone there might be using it.
[06:30] <zoidberg> alright guys
[06:30] <dr_willis> covOPprometheus,  its all greek to me. :)
[06:30] <zoidberg> its downloading
[06:30] <zoidberg> thanx
[06:30] <DigitalNinja> DShepherd: I'll head over there
[06:30] <thompa> zoidberg: you have to follow that stuff on the restricted page all the way through
[06:30] <zoidberg> what is the name for the mozilla plugin for mplayer?
[06:30] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:30] <DShepherd> zoidberg: help.ubuntu.com is your friend
[06:30] <zoidberg> i got it thompa
[06:30] <dugryce> i have a wireles card in my system and i have configured it perfectly but when i open a browser it keeps telling me not found
[06:30] <zoidberg> its downloading now
[06:30] <zoidberg> now what is the name of  the firefox plugin for mplaer?
[06:31] <DShepherd> zoidberg: use synaptic and search for it
[06:31] <thompa> zoidberg: vlc always works and i use xine
[06:31] <zoidberg> whats the name of the pacakger....i tried the vlc plugin for firefox....it wasnt working
[06:31] <knapper> What other programs out there will play a cue/bin besides vlan?
[06:31] <dr_willis> dugryce,  well  if you can ping the gateway, but not www.google.com  ( then ya got a DNS server setting/issue)
[06:31] <zoidberg> but i know that mplayer plugin works....at least it has for me in the past
[06:31] <jpjacobs> zoidberg, try mozilla-mplayer ;)
[06:32] <thompa> mplayer was buggy some time  ago
[06:32] <dugryce> i have configured the wireless router correctly
[06:32] <zoidberg> okay thanx
[06:32] <dr_willis> dugryce,  if you can ping googles ip. but not www.google.com - then ya got a  dns issue.
[06:32] <dr_willis> dugryce,  if you cant even ping the  router.. you got a wireless/network issue.
[06:32] <dugryce> how do I fix it
[06:32] <digger> need to know the real issure first
[06:32] <dugryce> both computers aare running Ubuntu
[06:32] <digger> what can you ping?
[06:32] <dugryce> with a belkin router and network card
[06:33] <dr_willis> digger,  the logic of that statement is eluding him. :P
[06:33] <digger> ?
[06:33] <Lard-O-Lad> !botsnack
[06:33] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:33] <digger> err
[06:33] <ivx> has anyone tried a wiresless keyboard/mouse with ubuntu?
[06:33] <dugryce> let me go to try to ping no I tried to ping but it doesnt
[06:33] <thompa> mplayer doesnt work again here anyway
[06:33] <neddiW> Hi, does anyone know how to get Synaptic running? I does not want to open...
[06:33] <dugryce> yeah wireless keyboards work
[06:33] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:33] <yinepuhotep> What error do you get, neddiW?
[06:34] <jpjacobs> ivx, got a wireless logitech stuff, works out of the box
[06:34] <dugryce> what should i try to ping
[06:34] <dr_willis> covOPprometheus,  what tags are even under there?
[06:34] <dugryce> www.google .com
[06:34] <PhilDick> neddiW I just opened a window and typed "synaptic"... this isn't working?
[06:34] <PhilDick> window=terminal
[06:34] <dr_willis> and then googles ip address.
[06:34] <dugryce> not form network tools
[06:34] <neddiW> I cannot open Synaptic
[06:34] <dugryce> from
[06:34] <ivx> jpjacobs, thanks, i was shopping around and thats all they seem to sell these days. i personally don't see the point
[06:34] <yinepuhotep> neddiW, what happens when you try to open Synaptic?
[06:34] <neddiW> it asks for password and it does not open
[06:34] <morfeeus> hi!
[06:35] <dugryce> ok brb
[06:35] <yinepuhotep> neddiW, ok, so you need to type in your administrative password.
[06:35] <morfeeus> i want to download the ubunutu
[06:35] <thompa> in mplayer you seem to have to right click,
[06:35] <urmom> i need help
[06:35] <urmom> im new to ubuntu
[06:35] <thompa> !mplayer
[06:35] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[06:35] <urmom> i am used to fedora
[06:35] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:35] <morfeeus> can anyone help me?
[06:35] <Flannel> morfeeus: http://ubuntu.com/download
[06:35] <yinepuhotep> urmom: What kind of help do you need?
[06:35] <morfeeus> thanx
[06:35] <rob_p> Ropechoborra,  You only want to block incoming echo-requests?  If so, try, "sudo iptables -A INPUT -i <ethernet_interface> -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DROP"
[06:35] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, I put the password and nothing
[06:35] <urmom> does ubuntu deafault to a root password cause i never put one in in the instalation
[06:36] <dugryce> it says, "www.google.com can't be found"
[06:36] <red|rain> urmom, use your user password
[06:36] <thompa> i did that , failed to open
[06:36] <dugryce> but everythin is set right
[06:36] <dr_willis> !sudo
[06:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:36] <urmom> it failes
[06:36] <dugryce> should the host name on both computers be the same?
[06:36] <Ropechoborra> rob_p thats just for the ping?
[06:36] <cl187> heh
[06:36] <PhilDick> urmom, As I understand it there is no root password.  Try sudo bash, and when it asks for a password, give it your user password
[06:36] <yinepuhotep> neddiW, my suggestion is to go to the user editor (System=>Users and Groups) and give root a real password. Then when Synaptic asks for a password, give it the root password you just gave to root.
[06:36] <cl187> i gots a idea
[06:36] <dugryce> it acts as if there is no connections
[06:37] <rob_p> Ropechoborra, Yes.  That will essentially make your, "un-pingable."
[06:37] <dugryce> but it say the wireless connection is active
[06:37] <rob_p> Ropechoborra, *you*
[06:37] <levander> What's supposed to be the best bittorrent client right now? Linux or Windows?
[06:37] <dugryce> the WEP is correct
[06:37] <dugryce> everything
[06:37] <Lard-O-Lad> what is a good cross platform, extenable text editor (that isnt vim or emacs)?
[06:37] <thompa> actually have never seen mplayer work once
[06:37] <yinepuhotep> levander, if you like Java, Azureus works really good. If you don't want to download anything, bittornado is on the Ubundo CD.
[06:37] <dugryce> anyone/
[06:37] <dugryce> ?
[06:37] <yinepuhotep> errr.. Ubuntu cd.
[06:38] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, I will do just that, i will give you an update....
[06:38] <ivx> jpjacobs, did you ever hear of dynex
[06:38] <neddiW> thanks
[06:38] <Ropechoborra> rob_p ethernet interface its eth0 eth1 like that?
[06:38] <covOPprometheus> !ID3
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ID3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <yinepuhotep> dugryce, I have wireless problems like you're describing, and it's usually because the router isn't giving the card a good signal.
[06:38] <rob_p> Ropechoborra, Yes.
[06:38] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:38] <dugryce> it's as if the network card can't pick up the router or something
[06:38] <jpjacobs> ivx, no what's that?
[06:38] <yinepuhotep> Unfortunately, the only solution I've found to the wireless problem is to reboot the router.
[06:38] <urmom> is there a way to reset my root password without reinstalling?
[06:38] <thompa> dugryce: did you reboot  after you set it
[06:38] <dugryce> yes
[06:38] <dibblego> when I attempt to mount -t smbfs why does the mount point has permissions of ?---------  ? ?       ?          ?                ?
[06:38] <yinepuhotep> urmom: Yes
[06:38] <urmom> ?
[06:39] <rob_p> Ropechoborra, Replace, "<ethernet_interface>" with, "eth0" or, "eth1", etc.
[06:39] <yinepuhotep> urmom: From your desktop....
[06:39] <dugryce> in networking does the host name have anythin to do with anything?
[06:39] <ivx> jpjacobs, a brand that makes wireless stuff. i was going to ask if you knew if they worked. they are cheaper than logitec
[06:39] <urmom> where?
[06:39] <urmom> which menu
[06:39] <yinepuhotep> urmom: System=>Administration=>Users and Groups
[06:39] <dugryce> in network settings on both computers
[06:39] <digger> Reset password?  boot a live CD, mount fs with /etc - and edit the shadow file
[06:39] <dugryce> in the general tab
[06:39] <yinepuhotep> urmom: Once you have that opened, tell it do display all users.
[06:39] <dugryce> do the host names have to match
[06:39] <dibblego> dugryce, yes it has something to do with anything at the very least
[06:39] <jpjacobs> ivx, nevr heard of it...
[06:40] <morfeeus> by by!
[06:40] <ivx> jpjacobs, thanks anyway
[06:40] <dugryce> every time i change it the computer has to be rebooted
[06:40] <jpjacobs> np
[06:40] <yinepuhotep> urmom: Then click on root and edit it. Give root a new password and click on "OK" until you're out of the program.
[06:40] <thompa> dugryce: or do networkconfig
[06:40] <dugryce> how do I do that
[06:41] <dugryce> or where
[06:41] <dugryce> ?
[06:41] <Ktron> Is there anything else I can try besides X -configure to find a working config for my monitors?
[06:41] <urmom> thanks its just different in fedora
[06:41] <digger> urmom - you could also rud [ sudo passwd root ] 
[06:41] <thompa> dugryce: im in edgy, some things arent right
[06:41] <dugryce> if the sugnal is weak that may have something to do with it?
[06:41] <yinepuhotep> dugryce: What kind of wireless card do you have? Mine is an RT61 and I don't dare use the Network tool, because if I do, it trashes my wireless.
[06:42] <dugryce> belkin
[06:42] <digger> so does anyone know when nfs mounts specified in the fstab are mounted during boot?
[06:42] <quintin> How do I get my wifi adapter to figure out it is not in ad-hoc mode????  it keep saying ad-hoc mod and it's not!!!
[06:42] <yinepuhotep> Belkin is the company that sells it, but do you know what driver it uses?
[06:42] <thompa> dugryce: rest the router maybe
[06:42] <dugryce> i have one computer that dual boots between xppro and ubuntu
[06:43] <yinepuhotep> Mine, for instance, is a Linksys, but the driver is RT61.
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> I am a gnome user and I was spending most of the day trying to get superkaramba working
[06:43] <dugryce> the ubuntu OS saw the wireless router and asked me to configure it
[06:43] <dugryce> so i did
[06:43] <dugryce> everything is set right
[06:43] <dugryce> just no signal
[06:43] <thompa> dugryce: dhcp
[06:43] <dugryce> or connection
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> I forgot about gdesklets
[06:43] <dugryce> yup
[06:44] <DigitalNinja> it's the gnome version of superkaramba
[06:44] <dugryce> should it be set as dhcp
[06:44] <thompa> who is your isp
[06:44] <dugryce> or static IP on the recieving computer
[06:44] <dugryce> Cox
[06:44] <thompa> comcast
[06:44] <thompa> dhcp
[06:44] <Ktron> If 'sudo Xorg -configure' fails to generate a Xorg config file that works at all, are there any other utilities I can try to find a config that works?
[06:45] <dugryce> should I make sure the host names match in network setting
[06:45] <yinepuhotep> Ktron: If you use ATI drivers, there's always aticonfig.
[06:45] <dugryce> between both computers
[06:45] <dr_willis> dugryce,  each pc has its own hostname
[06:45] <raknam> hey i'm trying to install opera using synaptic package manager, i've enabled multiverse and universe, but i can't find it, is there anything else i'm supposed to do?
[06:46] <dugryce> ok so that soesn't matter
[06:46] <dugryce> why is this not working
[06:46] <yinepuhotep> raknam: You have to add opera to your sources.list
[06:46] <dr_willis> dugryce,  dont matter at all.
[06:46] <urmom> i am trying to make mac osx the default on my ibook g4 during boot using yaboot
[06:46] <thompa> what the modem go to
[06:46] <urmom> http://www.askdavetaylor.com/tweak_yaboot_so_mac_os_x_is_my_default_os_not_ubuntu_or_yellow_dog_linux.html
[06:46] <dugryce> is it as simple as signall strenthg
[06:46] <Ktron> yinepuhotep, I'm just trying to get Xorg to run on the livecd... I have a radeon x800gt though, so aticonfig should be useful
[06:46] <thompa> cable modem goes to...
[06:46] <dr_willis> dugryce,  because wireless can be a big PAIN.  if you cant even ping the router.. id guess the card/drivers are not set up right.
[06:46] <urmom> i edited the config but in the next step the directory does not exist
[06:46] <Ktron> I'll try aticonfig
[06:46] <ubuntu> i installed vista over dapper....how do i reinstall the grub boot loader
[06:46] <Ktron> bb
[06:46] <dugryce> but it sees the card in network settings
[06:47] <yinepuhotep> Ktron: you have to install the ATI  proprietary drivers, rather than the Ubuntu ati drivers, if you want to use aticonfig, though.
[06:47] <Flannel> stephan8433: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:47] <thompa> dugryce: whats the card
[06:47] <dugryce> belkin
[06:47] <stephan8433> ty
[06:47] <dugryce> it sees and configures correctly
[06:47] <dugryce> everything
[06:47] <yinepuhotep> dugryce: Do you know what the driver is for your Belkin card, though?
[06:48] <dugryce> no is that an issue
[06:48] <yinepuhotep> Yes, it is.
[06:48] <yinepuhotep> The wireless set up depends on your wireless card's driver.
[06:48] <thompa> dugryce: belkin **
[06:48] <dugryce> the router was recognized immidiatly and operates well
[06:48] <dugryce> I am on the routered computer now
[06:48] <dravas> How do I get this in gnome http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots
[06:48] <dravas> easily
[06:49] <dugryce> ??
[06:49] <thompa> dugryce: is it a laptop
[06:49] <dugryce> no 2 desktops
[06:49] <yinepuhotep> dravas: We're going to look.
[06:49] <zoidberg> hey guys how can i get an ipod that i have plugged in via firewire....to work ?
[06:49] <urmom> just mount it
[06:49] <thompa> what kind of belkin
[06:49] <zoidberg> its getting power...but how do i manage it....play the songs in it...and stuff
[06:49] <dravas> ok yinepuhotep
[06:49] <dugryce> wireless g router and card
[06:49] <urmom> gtkpod
[06:49] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to edit file tags of audio files (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[06:50] <urmom> zoidberg try gtkpod
[06:50] <dugryce> when I boot in sinxppro it works fine
[06:50] <thompa> dugryce: whats the card exactly, did you google it
[06:50] <sizzam> dravas: thats XGL-compwiz.   there is a channel on here - #ubuntu-xgl with some wiki links with tutorials
[06:50] <dugryce> no
[06:50] <dugryce> it's a matching set
[06:50] <thompa> do that with linx as keywords
[06:50] <dugryce> card and router
[06:50] <sizzam> dravas: compwiz = compiz
[06:50] <yinepuhotep> dravas: Looks like some pretty detailed instructions near the bottom of the page. I might try it myself. But it does look as if you'll need some tutorials and practice to do something that fun.
[06:51] <Adam> Hi. If I want to install KDE software - e.g. KTorrent and Konversation - should I install KUbuntu instead of the regular Ubuntu?
[06:51] <thompa> dugryce: but i dont know what kind of belkin it is
[06:51] <carthik> Adam, no, just install the kde software you need - no need to install all of kde - I use only amarok and k3b for example
[06:52] <thompa> dugryce: i mean the pc wireless card
[06:52] <Adam> carthik: interesting. are there any particular KDE packages that do require KDE?
[06:52] <thompa> yep
[06:52] <thompa> Adam: kde for one
[06:53] <Adam> since now I don't understand what being a "KDE application" mean...
[06:53] <dugryce> ok
[06:53] <carthik> Adam, KDE is a framework - there is no one set of packages that really can call itself "kde" sort of - like GNOME, you know
[06:53] <dugryce> belkin wireless G desktop Card
[06:53] <carthik> Adam, some KDE libs will be autoselected for install with, say KTorrent, but that's okay, I presume
[06:53] <dugryce> F5D7000
[06:53] <yinepuhotep> As I understand it, a "KDE Application" just means it uses the KDE core libraries and such.
[06:53] <`m0> hi
[06:54] <FliesLikeALap> that is my understanding as well yinepuhotep
[06:54] <`m0> does linux automatically backup fileS?
[06:54] <jbroome> no
[06:54] <FliesLikeALap> no `m0 it
[06:54] <FliesLikeALap> does not*
[06:54] <carthik> Adam, by installing kubuntu-desktop, you will be getting "someone"s idea of a perfect kde desktop with all the apps etc - which is not what you seem to want
[06:54] <Over_There> does anyone know why gnome would be resetting to the login screen after a certain amount of time?
[06:54] <jasonm> how could i record my desktop as a video, like whats happening on my desktop?
[06:54] <dugryce> everything indicates that the network settings are correct
[06:54] <carthik> Over_There, what is the error you get?
[06:54] <vinz> hello people .-)
[06:54] <zoidberg> how can i mount my ipod...its connected trhough FIREWIRE?
[06:54] <carthik> hi vinz
[06:55] <Adam> carthik: is there a disadvantage for using, say, Konversation as opposed to something Gnomish if I'm using regular Ubuntu?  should I seriously consider installing KUbuntu instead?
[06:55] <dugryce> i tend to think it mught be signal strenght
[06:55] <aSt3raL> hey
[06:55] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There is it logging people out or just going to the login screen?
[06:55] <yinepuhotep> Do you have a power problem, Over_There? It sounds to me like you're getting a reboot.
[06:55] <Over_There> i can't find any error message in the logs
[06:55] <swarm_> how do you guys get the nvidia card to work out of the box? even without 3d accel
[06:55] <aSt3raL> im having some more ipv6 issurs i think
[06:55] <Over_There> it doens reboot completely
[06:55] <swarm_> like on ATI, you just choose "vesa"
[06:55] <dibblego> why does mounting a samba share with smbmount give the mount point a permission containing question marks and I can't use it?
[06:55] <Over_There> just to the login screen
[06:55] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There is the user session still running?
[06:55] <yinepuhotep> Adam: Nope. It's just a question of what you prefer.
[06:55] <Over_There> nope
[06:55] <swarm_> but on nvidia cards, any solution?
[06:55] <thompa> dugryce: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185645
[06:55] <vinz> hay charthik
[06:55] <aSt3raL> some other applications wont work right.. possibly due to ipv6
[06:55] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There there isn't anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[06:55] <carthik> Adam, the look and feel will be different. Not much else. I love GNOME and I love Amrarok ;) You can try Kubuntu, of course - no harm in that if you have a few gigs to spare for the extra software
[06:55] <zoidberg> guys how can i mount my ipod...its connected trhough FIREWIRE?
[06:55] <NickGarvey> what command is the opposite of split?
[06:55] <thompa> dugryce: it looks grim
[06:56] <Over_There> nothing that jumps out as errors
[06:56] <dugryce> haha
[06:56] <dugryce> iit does
[06:56] <vinz> im vrom swiss
[06:56] <Adam> yinepuhotep, thompa, carthik: thanks for your help :)
[06:56] <aSt3raL> for example gaim wont logon
[06:56] <dugryce> and i am in love with linux
[06:56] <dugryce> damn
[06:56] <thompa> dugryce: one guy has it working on ndiswrapper
[06:56] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There would you mind sending me Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old ?
[06:56] <carthik> Over_There, does it say "your session lasted for less than 10 seconds" or something similar?
[06:56] <NickGarvey> !info split
[06:56] <ubotu> Package split does not exist in dapper
[06:56] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There send it to flieslikeabrick@gmail.com
[06:56] <sizzam> NickGarvey: join?
[06:56] <Over_There> ok will send files
[06:56] <PhilDick> This is galling me... does no one have an editted "right-mouse-button" on desktop menu?
[06:56] <aSt3raL> and xchat resolved freenode.net to 1.0.0.0
[06:56] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get build-dep <package> gives "E: Build-dependencies for <package> could not be satisfied." for any packages
[06:56] <Over_There> and nothing about 10 seconds
[06:57] <FliesLikeALap> aSt3raL check /etc/hosts ?
[06:57] <aSt3raL> i had to ping freenode.net and manually edit the server ip
[06:57] <azathoth> python 2.4 is using 58megs of ram... is there any simple way of reducing the ram usage?
[06:57] <aSt3raL> why check that?
[06:57] <PhilDick> It sounds like I need to have the nautilus-actions package to edit that menu, and I don't find that package in synaptic.
[06:57] <yinepuhotep> Never thought about it, PhilDick. I'm sure SOMEONE must, but I think most people don't think about it.
[06:57] <dugryce> oh well
[06:57] <FliesLikeALap> aSt3raL is it just xchat having this problem or your entire system?
[06:57] <Sweet-P> has anyone been able to make openmosix work (kernel 2.4.x based) on dapper drake?
[06:57] <Adam> azathoth: it's probably running something.
[06:57] <PhilDick> It's only the easiest menu to access... sigh
[06:57] <azathoth> aye, it is... trible...
[06:57] <aSt3raL> entire system
[06:57] <FliesLikeALap> azathoth do ps aux | grep python
[06:58] <azathoth> i was just wondering if there's a way to reduce it
[06:58] <dugryce> let me boot in xpand see if it still works in windows boot
[06:58] <FliesLikeALap> that'll tell you what is using python
[06:58] <aSt3raL> i had to disable ipv6 in firefox to get it to work
[06:58] <dugryce> hols on brb
[06:58] <thompa> dugryce: how old is the wireless card
[06:58] <SilverMonk> guys I'm getting no sound...I've tried everything...
[06:58] <SilverMonk> what should i do?
[06:58] <dugryce> brand spanking new
[06:58] <aSt3raL> theres some ipv6 crap in the /etc/hosts file
[06:58] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, I did what you said but no luck :(
[06:58] <azathoth> i know what's using it... it's using tribler... i was just hoping there were modules i could unload that weren't neccessary or something
[06:58] <thompa> return it get a linksys
[06:58] <FliesLikeALap> try commenting it out aSt3raL
[06:58] <Adam> azathoth: what's taking the memory is not Python, but the process it is running. and afaik, there's no way to reduce that (other than refactorin the Python program of course ;)
[06:58] <azathoth> okie doke, thanks :)
[06:58] <thompa> or whatever works
[06:59] <yinepuhotep> neddiW: What happens if you try it from the terminal? Open a terminal, su to root, then try Synaptic?
[06:59] <PhilDick> Thanks for all the help, answers to questions and things I soaked up.  See you all next time!
[06:59] <Adam> azathoth: yw :)
[06:59] <FliesLikeALap> you're welcome PhilDick
[06:59] <aSt3raL> i edited the modprobe.d file and changed ipv6 to off
[06:59] <SilverMonk> can anyone help with my sound problem?
[06:59] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, ok ill try it
[06:59] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: Are you using Alsa?
[06:59] <SilverMonk> yes
[06:59] <FliesLikeALap> what sound card?
[07:00] <SilverMonk> hold up i'll check
[07:00] <aSt3raL> should i have to reboot after editing /etc/hosts?
[07:00] <yinepuhotep> I remember having this problem a while back. Never did find a solution - it just mysteriously cleared up when the next Alsa upgrade came out.
[07:00] <azathoth> tribler has a heavy memory pulll (not huge, but 60megs) but a tiny cpu usage... i recommend it to everyone :)
[07:00] <azathoth> best torrent app i've used on linux
[07:00] <yinepuhotep> Tribler? And only 60 megs?
[07:00] <SilverMonk> Vendo: Intel Corporation
[07:00] <azathoth> and it runs on python, which is great for the ozone or something
[07:01] <yinepuhotep> Standard repository, or its own website?
[07:01] <SilverMonk> Device: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)
[07:01] <azathoth> yinepuhotep, yup... 1.5megs for the app, 58 for python itself
[07:01] <jasonm> how could i record my desktop as a video, like whats happening on my desktop?
[07:01] <azathoth> yinepuhotep, found a deb on the ubuntuforums
[07:01] <yinepuhotep> Whoa. Nice, azathoth. I'll happily run something like that. I've been using Azureus, but you know how processor-intensive Java is.
[07:01] <SilverMonk> is there a command i can type to get some sort of listing of my hardware?
[07:01] <SilverMonk> cuz perhaps i can paste that somewhere for you guys
[07:02] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk, have you looked in your device manager?
[07:02] <azathoth> yeah, tribler is using 2% cpu
[07:02] <yinepuhotep> Or tried lspci?
[07:02] <SilverMonk> yeash thats where i found that info
[07:02] <azathoth> and it's incredibly featureful...
[07:02] <SilverMonk> *yeah
[07:02] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, Password:
[07:02] <neddiW> sudo: Synaptic: command not found
[07:02] <azathoth> it's like a fancier faster version of utorrent... i'm surprised more people don't know about it... although i had to do some rummaging to find it myself :)
[07:02] <dravas> I installed 3ddesktop and how do I run it
[07:03] <yinepuhotep> Hmmm.....I'm not familiar with intel sound cards at all, unfortunately. I've always used SB.
[07:03] <wweasel> whoa, I am interested. SOrry to jump in the middle of the convo azathoth, but what's a faster fancier version of utorrent?
[07:03] <yinepuhotep> Command not found? Do you have Synaptic installed?
[07:03] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There erk, I forgot that the xorg logs don't have timestamps, that makes it the logs relatively useless
[07:03] <thetictacaddict> I wanna get in on this Tribler talk too
[07:03] <azathoth> lemme dig up the deb
[07:03] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There is there a particular application that you're using when this happens?
[07:03] <wweasel> Hey. What's the best way to add a folder to the Places menu?
[07:03] <dr_willis> dravas,  you may want to read up on its ussage at the 3ddesktop homepage.. theres some issues with it - to learn about.. (and its useless eye candy as well) :P
[07:03] <wweasel> azathoth: what's it called?
[07:03] <Over_There> it doesnt seem like it
[07:04] <SilverMonk> yinepuhotep: im getting really intimidated here lol...why won't it just work like everything else does??
[07:04] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, Password:
[07:04] <neddiW> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:04] <FliesLikeALap> what kind of laptop is it Over_There ?
[07:04] <Over_There> hp zd8000
[07:04] <azathoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234700
[07:04] <dugryce> the wireless card works perfect in windows
[07:04] <azathoth> ^^ tribler
[07:04] <dugryce> this is strange
[07:04] <Over_There> it seemed like it happend more when i was using rythmbox but other then that no other program
[07:04] <dugryce> when I boot into Ubuntu on the other computer it just does not work
[07:05] <dr_willis> working perfect in windows does not mean its guarentted to work under linux.
[07:05] <yinepuhotep> Hmmm.....neddiW, have you tried apt-get synaptic to see what it pulls in to satisfy dependencies?
[07:05] <dugryce> but booting into xppro is fine
[07:05] <dugryce> ic
[07:05] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There there are a lot of errors in there about drm stuff, which would most likely have to do with rhythmbox.  are there any DRM-enabled media files you're trying to play?
[07:05] <dr_willis> wireless is a rather  complex thing. and thers lots of little stumbling blocks.
[07:05] <aSt3raL> well i edited the /etc/hosts file and that didnt do anything
[07:05] <SilverMonk> come on guys what do i do ??
[07:05] <aSt3raL> gaim still wont connect
[07:05] <Over_There> DRM?
[07:05] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There I'd say there's a 70% chance rhythmbox is doing something to crash Xorg
[07:05] <neddiW> yinepuhotep,  I have not tryed it , ill do it now
[07:05] <dr_willis> and the companies being jerks about theior drivers dont help much.
[07:05] <FliesLikeALap> Digital Rights Management
[07:05] <aSt3raL> how do i tell if ipv6 is running
[07:05] <aSt3raL> ?
[07:05] <dugryce> ok can anyone help me set this computer(in Ubuntu) to work faster online
[07:06] <dugryce> the tech from belkin said i had to change a setting
[07:06] <FliesLikeALap> aSt3raL lsmod | grep ipv6 ?
[07:06] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: Unfortunately, I'm not sure. If it won't play ANY sounds, it may be that you need to find a sound guru to help you work through the settings.
[07:06] <Over_There> i dont think so, unless MP3 are included in that
[07:06] <wweasel> Guys, what's the best way to add a folder to the Places menu?
[07:06] <dugryce> when I had it directly thru the cable modem it was faster
[07:06] <dugryce> now that it goes thru the router it's slower
[07:06] <Vancouver_Rocks> my computer freez at 26 % during instalaion
[07:06] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There try seeing if perhaps there's a particular song that you're trying to play that crashes xorg.  do you listen to any wma or watch any wmv files?
[07:06] <Vancouver_Rocks> 3rd time same prob
[07:06] <aSt3raL> its not running
[07:06] <intrico> Vancouver:  are you using the graphical install?
[07:06] <SilverMonk> ok what command do i use to get a listing of all my hardware? i should paste it somewhere right?
[07:07] <dugryce> i just think it's the sigmal strenthg
[07:07] <Over_There> nope,  would it happen even if the player is paused?
[07:07] <aSt3raL> any idea on why gaim wont connect?
[07:07] <FliesLikeALap> SilverMonk lspci and www.pastebin.com
[07:07] <Over_There> i have been using xmms now
[07:07] <SilverMonk> thanks
[07:07] <FliesLikeALap> maybe Over_There
[07:07] <Vancouver_Rocks> yes this last time
[07:07] <KyleAnderson> dugryce: are you connected through wireless?
[07:07] <dugryce> not on this computer
[07:07] <dugryce> it's running Ubuntu only
[07:07] <dugryce> and works great
[07:07] <neddiW> yinepuhotep, Password:
[07:07] <neddiW> Reading package lists... Done
[07:07] <neddiW> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:07] <neddiW> synaptic is already the newest version.
[07:07] <neddiW> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:07] <KyleAnderson> But on the computer in question?
[07:07] <neddiW> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:07] <neddiW>   gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 2:2.0.0beta3-2ubuntu3) but 1:2.0.0-1beta3 is to be installed
[07:07] <neddiW> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:07] <FliesLikeALap> !tell neddiW about flood
[07:07] <Over_There> would removing rythmbox help?
[07:07] <dugryce> but the connection is slower now that I have this wireless router on it
[07:08] <FliesLikeALap> dugryce I don't think there's much we can do if your router is seeming to slow things down'
[07:08] <dugryce> oh
[07:08] <yinepuhotep> Hmmm....so it says you already have the latest Synaptic, but when you try to run Synaptic, it says you have a missing library?
[07:08] <intrico> Vancouver_Rocks:  download the alternate cd in order to get a text install
[07:08] <intrico> I bet it will work then'
[07:08] <FliesLikeALap> neddiW you're not trying to use Edgy Eft, are you?
[07:08] <KyleAnderson> dugryce: Is the computer you are on now connecting slow?
[07:08] <dugryce> well I can definatly say that the help in her comes from the top 1% of the top 1% of the smartes people in the world
[07:08] <Vancouver_Rocks> can u pls tell me the link
[07:08] <dugryce> yeah a little
[07:08] <SilverMonk> ok heres my lspci...hopefully someone can help http://pastebin.com/773776
[07:09] <FliesLikeALap> dugryce if you want help with your router, #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for that
[07:09] <SilverMonk> and its a laptop if that means anything
[07:09] <dugryce> oh well, as long as the router works
[07:09] <neddiW> FliesLikeALap, what flood? what should I do?
[07:09] <urmom> is there an ubuntu channel for macs?
[07:09] <intrico> Vancouver_Rocks:  You can find them on the ubuntu site pretty easily, on the main download page
[07:09] <Vancouver_Rocks> thanks bud
[07:09] <FliesLikeALap> neddiW don't paste large things into this channel
[07:09] <FliesLikeALap> neddiW are you trying to upgrade to edgy eft or are you using dapper?
[07:09] <neddiW> FliesLikeALap, nope Dapper 6.06
[07:10] <yinepuhotep> Ow. Sound on the motherboard. That's painful.
[07:10] <FliesLikeALap> ok, just making sure
[07:10] <wtf> ok, im in deep shit, i cant connect to either operating systems i have on my computer(Ubuntu and Windows).  First it was my X server sayin that it was all messed up, so i figured i would just go to windows, but it wont let me use that either
[07:10] <wtf> i have no idea whats goin on
[07:10] <urmom> are there other ubuntu channels?
[07:10] <yinepuhotep> Unfortunately, sound on the motherboard almost never works properly, even in Windows.
[07:10] <SilverMonk> it worked in windows lol
[07:10] <SilverMonk> and i know there is a way of getting this to work
[07:10] <FliesLikeALap> wtf what happens when you try to go into windows?
[07:10] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get build-dep <package> gives "E: Build-dependencies for <package> could not be satisfied." for any packages
[07:10] <SilverMonk> i tried ubuntu on my dads laptop and it worked fine
[07:11] <DShepherd> DShepherd: what is the problem???? ^^
[07:11] <yinepuhotep> urmom: Have you tried #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:11] <sizzam> wtf: have you tried reconfiguring your x server yet?   you can do it with this command from a command line:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:11] <urmom> no i need a channel for ubuntu on macs
[07:11] <sandpaperback> Hello everyone.  Is there a way to make xchat-gnome autoexecute particular commands once connected to a server?
[07:11] <sizzam> wtf: that runs you through the wizard asking what kind of video card, monitor, you have, etc
[07:11] <NickGarvey> sizzam: nope, it was "cat"
[07:11] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: What do your alsa config files look like?
[07:11] <sizzam> NickGarvey: ahhh, that makes sense
[07:11] <FliesLikeALap> nalioth are you around?
[07:12] <SilverMonk> yinepuhotep: how do i get that?
[07:12] <wtf> ok, lemme try is sizzam
[07:12] <NickGarvey> sizzam: hehe yup, all of a sudden I realized ;)
[07:12] <sandpaperback> I swear I had it working, but then I deleted my config files. >_<
[07:12] <nalioth> FliesLikeALap: yup
[07:12] <krizzer> has anyone used this guide for xgl http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[07:12] <Vancouver_Rocks> can i proceed with this ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent ?
[07:12] <FliesLikeALap> nalioth is there a reason that ubotu isn't sending messages to let me know that it successfully "told" someone about something?
[07:13] <Madpilot> urmom, this is it
[07:13] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get build-dep <package> gives "E: Build-dependencies for <package> could not be satisfied." for any packages <-- How do I fix this problem?
[07:13] <NickGarvey> FliesLikeALap: it stopped doing that a while ago
[07:13] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: they should be in /etc.
[07:13] <Vancouver_Rocks> i have a 500 mhz processor, with a 12 gb hd
[07:13] <knurg> sandpaperback: yes, edit servers under edit|preferences|networks
[07:13] <intrico> Vancouver_Rocks:  Yeah, that's what is known as an "alternate install" CD which lets you do a text install
[07:13] <wtf> sizzam im not sure what some of this stuff is(yes, im a bit of a newb)
[07:13] <yinepuhotep> /etc/sound
[07:13] <FliesLikeALap> yeah NickGarvey we carried it over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <NickGarvey> FliesLikeALap: I saw :)
[07:13] <yinepuhotep> Oops. /etc/sound only gives events.
[07:13] <sizzam> wtf: what kind of video card do you have?
[07:13] <Vancouver_Rocks> do i need to give commands or its also easy ?
[07:13] <sandpaperback> knurg: But I can't seem to find where in there I would put commands (aside from joining channels).
[07:14] <wtf> sizzam: nvidia GeForce 2Go
[07:14] <raknam> yinepuhotep: how do i add opera to my sources list for synaptic package manager
[07:14] <intrico> Vancouver_Rocks:  It's super-easy, it's just simple menus, rather than an Windowed interface
[07:15] <sizzam> wtf:  do you have the nvidia-glx package installed
[07:15] <Vancouver_Rocks> great, thanks for help, good bye
[07:15] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: try apt-get install -f
[07:15] <yinepuhotep> raknum: # The Opera browser (packages)
[07:15] <yinepuhotep> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[07:15] <yinepuhotep> That's the lines to put in your sources.list
[07:16] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: that didnt work. any other ideas?
[07:16] <SilverMonk> yinepuhotep: what should i do?
[07:16] <mainer> sandpaperback: xchat>server-list>edit>save
[07:16] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: apt-get update and upgrade? have you tried that?
[07:16] <wtf> sizzam: no, how do i find my video card's bid video identifier
[07:16] <Ademan> anyone know of a good multilanguage GTK based IDE?
[07:16] <wtf> sizzam: bus*
[07:16] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: i sure have... lots of times..
[07:16] <sizzam> wtf: actually, cancel out of that
[07:17] <sizzam> wtf:  then issue this command:    sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:17] <mainer> wtf try in terminal lspci
[07:17] <knurg_> is it possible to get x-chat gnome to show a tray-icon like x-chat does?
[07:17] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: do you know what is causing my problem?
[07:17] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: I'm looking to see if I can find my sound card info.
[07:17] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: none at all
[07:17] <SilverMonk> yinepuhotep: cheers
[07:17] <sizzam> wtf:  that will install the nvidia glx griver,  then you can choose 'nvidia' from the list when you reconfigure xorg
[07:17] <intrico> Ademan, did you check out sourceforge?
[07:17] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: ...........
[07:17] <mainer> yinepuhotep: lspci
[07:17] <sandpaperback> mainer: a... as in from Maine? and b... I must just not be seeing something.
[07:17] <sizzam> wtf:  otherwise, choose 'nv'
[07:17] <mainer> sqandyes,in maine:)
[07:18] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: I don't have a debian system to read the man file on apt-get
[07:18] <FliesLikeALap> Over_There it definately sounds like your x server is crashing, for whatever thats worth (as opposed to being an intended action)
[07:18] <yinepuhotep> mainer: I'm actually looking for info on configuration to help SilverMonk.
[07:18] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: ok.. thanks......
[07:18] <sandpaperback> <- Is also a Mainer.
[07:18] <mainer> cool
[07:18] <NickGarvey> DShepherd: sorry
[07:18] <DShepherd> NickGarvey: me too
[07:18] <mainer> sandpaperback: i'm in auburn
[07:19] <knurg_> Is it possible to get x-chat gnome to show a tray-icon?
[07:19] <sandpaperback> mainer: Portland here. :)
[07:19] <mainer> sandpaperback: cool
[07:19] <yinepuhotep> SilverMonk: have you tried alsaconf?
[07:19] <SilverMonk> the command?
[07:19] <yinepuhotep> Yes
[07:19] <mainer> yes,in a terminal
[07:19] <SilverMonk> yinepuhotep: i'll try it now
[07:20] <SilverMonk> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[07:20] <FliesLikeALap> any insight as to why all of my sound would be working fine except for flash objects embedded in web pages (maybe flash alltogether) ?
[07:21] <johnnybezak> FliesLikeALap: reboot it will work fine
[07:21] <mainer> try alsamixer
[07:21] <dibblego> when nautilus connects to my samba share under the Places menu, I wish to see the mount command that it uses - how so?
[07:21] <johnnybezak> FliesLikeALap: did you just install it?
[07:21] <FliesLikeALap> no
[07:21] <SilverMonk> ok im in that program
[07:21] <SilverMonk> what do i do there?
[07:21] <johnnybezak> have you rebooted since you installed it
[07:21] <FliesLikeALap> yes Johan666
[07:21] <FliesLikeALap> johnnybezak
[07:21] <yinepuhotep> Adjust the volume and mute settings and see what you get, SilverMonk
[07:22] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get build-dep <package> gives "E: Build-dependencies for <package> could not be satisfied." for any packages <-- How do I fix this problem? someone that can help.. your attention is welcome
[07:22] <johnnybezak> FliesLikeALap: i got that on a couple of installs and a reboot always worked.
[07:22] <FliesLikeALap> DShepherd have you done apt-get update recently?
[07:22] <SilverMonk> yeah they were already upto full
[07:22] <johnnybezak> FliesLikeALap: on diff. pcs
[07:22] <FliesLikeALap> I'll try that when it is convenient johnnybezak
[07:22] <Saimazoon> Hello
[07:22] <DShepherd> FliesLikeALap: yes i have. why do you ask?
[07:23] <SilverMonk> it says its a Realtek ALC883 if thats any help
[07:23] <Saimazoon> How can I add quicktime support for Xine or Totem in a standard ubuntu installation?
[07:23] <DShepherd> FliesLikeALap: doing another one just for the heck of it
[07:23] <sanmarcos> anybody use trac here?
[07:23] <achandra> hey all. I installed an upgrade for xorg-xserver and it hosed X on the next reboot ( No X)..any way to recover from this ?
[07:23] <NickGarvey> achandra: update again
[07:23] <DShepherd> FliesLikeALap: no change .... why do you ask?
[07:24] <FliesLikeALap> DShepherd it was just worth checking ;)
[07:24] <DShepherd> FliesLikeALap: oh.. thank you
[07:24] <achandra> NickGarvery: essentially apt-get update or??
[07:24] <DShepherd> gosh
[07:24] <FliesLikeALap> upgrade again achandra
[07:24] <dibblego> achandra, yes, the channel topic has more information
[07:24] <FliesLikeALap> that was a reported bug and should be fixed now
[07:24] <NickGarvey> achandra: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:25] <mainer> SilverMonk:   read this    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202555
[07:25] <Jamin> alright  i have ubuntu and windows installed on the harddrive in seperate partitions. but when i boot it just goes straight to windows
[07:25] <Jamin> how do i get it to give me a choice/ how do i choose
[07:26] <FliesLikeALap> SilverMonk also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems if you haven't already
[07:26] <SilverMonk> ok i'll try those things
[07:26] <FliesLikeALap> Jamin  does it load the GRUB bootloader or go straight to windows?
[07:26] <Jamin> straight to win
[07:26] <FliesLikeALap> Jamin it sounds like perhaps something kept your ubuntu install from completing successfully, or you told it not to install the GRUB boot loader
[07:26] <Jamin> shoot
[07:27] <Jamin> i didnt tell it not to
[07:27] <thetictacaddict> can anyone recommend a mail checker for the gnome panel (with pop3 support, and gmail wouldn't hurt)?
[07:27] <Jamin> i dont remember telling it to
[07:27] <FliesLikeALap> it should have done it on its own
[07:27] <Jamin> ok see, maybe it was the fact that i installed windows second?
[07:27] <FliesLikeALap> yes that is
[07:27] <FliesLikeALap> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:27] <FliesLikeALap> see that
[07:27] <jpjacobs> thetictacaddict, gmail uses pop3...
[07:27] <Jamin> thankyou
[07:27] <thetictacaddict> yeah I know but some mail checkers have specific gmail support
[07:27] <achandra> Hi
[07:27] <FliesLikeALap> windows overwrites the bootloader without asking, so installing windows second will almost always overwrite GRUB
[07:28] <FliesLikeALap> hi achandra, if you need help please ask your question and we'll do the best to help you
[07:28] <achandra> The X-server problem is solved...thnx!
[07:28] <NickGarvey> s/almost always/always/
[07:28] <NickGarvey> achandra: :)
[07:28] <FliesLikeALap> ah achandra is the xorg one :-x
[07:28] <Lathiat>  /lastlog avahi 32
[07:28] <Lathiat>  /lastlog avahi 3
[07:28] <FliesLikeALap> should sleep soon, the Hi threw me off ;)
[07:28] <Lathiat> doh
[07:28] <dibblego> how do you open a terminal from nautilus at its current directory?
[07:28] <Madpilot> So is it safe to do that xorg update yet? Did it last night, it broke my X, had to revert... has the thing been fixed?
[07:28] <NickGarvey> maddler: yup
[07:28] <dibblego> Madpilot, yes
[07:28] <NickGarvey> Madpilot: yes
[07:28] <achandra> Now...im a little new to apt and dpkg...and ive manned and googled...what exaclty did the upgrade and update do??
[07:28] <achandra> I like to know... :)
[07:28] <rbman> Got a completely configured ubuntu running on drive (hd0,1)  (with (hd0,0) as swap) and a 2nd drive (hd1) with windows at position (hd1,0) that I want to dual boot using grub.  Using "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd0,1).  My /boot/grub/menu.lst is posted at http://www.phpriot.com/3671  Trying to boot windows shows that section of menu.lst file. Anyone have a work-around for this?
[07:29] !lilo:*! Too broad Tor exit node block, it's been rescinded.
[07:29] <FliesLikeALap> one update to xserver-xorg introduced a bug which was then fixed in another update achandra
[07:29] <trappist> achandra: update updated the lists of packages available from the repos, and upgrade downloaded and installed any upgradable packages.
[07:29] <Madpilot> good, thanks! dibblego, there's a package called nautilus-open-terminal or something similar that'll put "Open Terminal" on your right-click menu in Naut.
[07:29] <dibblego> Madpilot, cheers
[07:29] <achandra> lol....good...enough...
[07:30] <sanmarcos> anybody use trac here?, are there backports from edgy?. Serious security threats in dapper
[07:30] <crimsun> sanmarcos: that's being addressed.
[07:30] <achandra> now assuming a person does install a pakage...from command line...how do you query what is installed (im familiar with rpm -q ) but dpkg is another story or apt....and how do you unininstall it ..
[07:30] <achandra> ??
[07:30] <sanmarcos> crimsun: as in, there will be an update to the trac package for dapper?
[07:30] <crimsun> sanmarcos: in some fashion, yes.
[07:30] <sethk> achandra, apt-get install whatever
[07:30] <sethk> achandra, do man apt-get
[07:31] <dravas> I once had this aesome water thing for my desktop
[07:31] <achandra> right got the install part..
[07:31] <sanmarcos> crimsun: there better be. Thank you, Ill check the bts, or launchpad, whatever ubuntu calls it
[07:31] <FliesLikeALap> achandra uninstalling is apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:31] <achandra> but the query??
[07:31] <sethk> achandra, apt-get remove whatever
[07:31] <trappist> crimsun: what's the policy on security updates for universe?  they seem a bit slow
[07:31] <dravas> I once had this aesome water thing for my desktop does anyone know what it is
[07:31] <achandra> of packages installed that is??
[07:31] <CANADA> "The test of the swap space in partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors."               Whats that say to anyone during install
[07:31] <dravas> like a puddle on your desktop
[07:31] <dibblego> installed nautilus-open-terminal - I don't see anything on the right-click menu - where boots is it?
[07:31] <crimsun> trappist: there are no security updates at all for universe unless you do it yourself.
[07:31] <achandra> trappist: werent you a mdk user that worte some pretty cool firewall stuff?
[07:31] <dibblego> dravas, bad weather?
[07:31] <sethk> achandra, dpkg -l
[07:32] <trappist> crimsun: gotcha.
[07:32] <trappist> achandra: yeah that's me
[07:32] <dravas> hmm
[07:32] <sethk> CANADA, it found errors on an IDE drive, which should never happen
[07:32] <achandra> trappist: good to see you again...i used ipkungfu for the longest damn time....cannonball (todd) says hi too.
[07:32] <sethk> CANADA, IDE has intelligence to skip bad sectors,
[07:32] <CANADA> I dont have a ide drive :S
[07:33] <CANADA> sata
[07:33] <sethk> CANADA, same thing
[07:33] <achandra> thnx...for the help so far guys....much appreciated.. :)
[07:33] <sethk> CANADA, the drive, for whatever reason, can't do the correction thing
[07:33] <sethk> CANADA, typically because it is out of spare sectors
[07:33] <CANADA> Is there anyway I can correct it?
[07:33] <Madpilot> CANADA, can you change your nick so it's not ALL CAPS, please?
[07:33] <rbman> *sigh*
[07:34] <sethk> CANADA, try running badblocks on the disk, set to mark bad sectors
[07:34] <Madpilot> better. thank you.
[07:34] <jman8888> Does anybody here have kbfx...
[07:35] <Canada> Is badblocks built in on liveCD?
[07:35] <wweasel> I don't think nicks are case sensitive: I think you could have referenced him as "canada"
[07:35] <tulga> hi all. I tried apt-get dist-upgrade. but "Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb  404 Not Found". howto solve it?
[07:35] <rbman> ...so nobody else in here running a dual boot windows/ubuntu system using grub with two separate drives, one for each os?
[07:35] <NickGarvey> tulga: try, "sudo apt-get update"
[07:36] <wweasel> rbman: I am not, but what is the issue?
[07:36] <wweasel> rbman: I dual boot using the same HD, but I have dual booted using different hard drives before.
[07:36] <AlexThunder> I was installing the P2P program, PySoulSeek, and I encoutered an error during installation.
[07:36] <AlexThunder> creating /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pysoulseek
[07:36] <AlexThunder> error: could not create '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pysoulseek': Permission denied
[07:36] <AlexThunder> can somebody tell me what to do to fix this?
[07:36] <NickGarvey> Alex: sudo?
[07:36] <rbman> wweasel, ok to pm with it so as not to crowd channel?  I just posted it a few minutes back in here.
[07:36] <jman8888> Can somebody help me with kbfx
[07:37] <tulga> NickGarvey: I tried update. successful updated. but error on upgrade
[07:37] <NickGarvey> tulga: when did you update?
[07:37] <tulga> 1 min ago
[07:37] <Kumasan> having read the bug page on the recent X upgrade issue with Dapper, is it safe now to upgrade? The fix has propogated out by now?
[07:37] <wweasel> rbman: Huh? I just started reading and I don't know what your question is.
[07:37] <wweasel> Kumasan: Yep, upgade now.
[07:37] <carthik> Kumasan, yes
[07:37] <FliesLikeALap> Kumasan see /topic
[07:37] <rbman> wweasel,  Got a completely configured ubuntu running on drive (hd0,1)  (with (hd0,0) as swap) and a 2nd drive (hd1) with windows at position (hd1,0) that I want to dual boot using grub.  Using "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd0,1).  My /boot/grub/menu.lst is posted at http://www.phpriot.com/3671  Trying to boot windows shows that section of menu.lst file. Anyone have a work-around for this?
[07:37] <Kumasan> wweasel: thanks.
[07:37] <SurfnKid> ls
[07:38] <Kumasan> FliesLikeALap: I did, hence the question. Thanks.
[07:38] <FliesLikeALap> Kumasan gotcha ;)
[07:38] <tulga> NickGarvey: can i change mirror?
[07:38] <NickGarvey> tulga: not sure
[07:39] <carthik> tulga, yes you can, look at wiki.ubuntu.com/archives
[07:39] <carthik> or Archive or some such for a list
[07:39] <Kumasan> FliesLikeALap: just wanted to make sure all was well, I hit the bug last night on a new install, and went ahead and did a reinstall rather than futz with it, as it was a fresh install anyway. Glad I can safely upgrade now :)
[07:39] <tulga> carthik: is it fix my problem?
[07:39] <DevGet> is there any cmd for searching in files?
[07:39] <Flannel> DevGet: grep
[07:39] <Kumasan> DevGet: grep, or use beagle
[07:40] <OsirisX11> if i have a k7 kernel what package do i need to get the source?
[07:40] <carthik> tulga, if you are getting errors on upgrade and arent sure, use the main mirror, the archive.ubuntu.com one in your sources.list
[07:40] <carthik> OsirisX11, linux-source-k7 will get you the latest
[07:40] <Canada> Where would I find badblocks?
[07:40] <carthik> Canada, on a bad hard drive?
[07:40] <DevGet> ok, well, it's on a server, so no beagle
[07:41] <wweasel> rbman: I really don't know. When I did it, a while ago, with 2 HDs it was my first time every using Ubuntu and it worked right out of the box. To be honest, I am suprised yours isn't.
[07:41] <OsirisX11> carthik: no matches
[07:41] <AlexThunder> I'm having troubles installing the P2P client, PySoulSeek, and during installation, I'm getting a an error message taht reads: creating /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pysoulseek
[07:41] <AlexThunder> error: could not create '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pysoulseek': Permission denied
[07:41] <NickGarvey> AlexThunder: : sudo
[07:41] <AlexThunder> What do I do to fix it?
[07:41] <NickGarvey> AlexThunder: put sudo in front of your command
[07:41] <AlexThunder> k
[07:41] <rbman> wweasel, the problem is that the ubuntu drive was installed without the windows drive being present on the machine at the time.  I'm trying to add it.
[07:41] <[2] mag> hi guys, is there a way to keep a process alive if my SSH disconnects, AFTER my process was started already
[07:42] <AlexThunder> Nick, thankyou
[07:42] <OsirisX11> [2] mag: see screen
[07:42] <dravas> dow anyone know how to start x desktop waves
[07:42] <Kumasan> Dang, I am at the hotel, for worldcon, and the "broadband" absolutely sucks. I get better bw at home.
[07:42] <OsirisX11> [2] mag: also see nohup
[07:42] <wweasel> rbman: You could try going through the steps to recover GRUB.
[07:42] <wweasel> !grub
[07:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:42] <SurfnKid> guys where is the mozilla installed on ubuntu dapper? what path
[07:42] <carthik> OsirisX11, true - well, are you trying to install something that says you need the source? then you can try the linux-headers-k7 package instead.
[07:42] <NickGarvey> SurfnKid: do you mean firefox?
[07:43] <OsirisX11> thank you carthik
[07:43] <SurfnKid> NickGarvey, yep
[07:43] <dravas> dow anyone know how to start x desktop waves
[07:43] <NickGarvey> SurfnKid: "which firefox" will show you
[07:43] <SurfnKid> NickGarvey, installing flash but asks for a path, i put /usr/bin but it doesnt accept it
[07:43] <OsirisX11> carthik: i am installing parallels, it says it wants the source
[07:43] <[2] mag> i know screen, he problem is that I've started my process already (as of right now, it's a RAID5 expand and will take 15h), how can I keep that process alive (which is currently running in the forground)
[07:43] <carthik> OsirisX11, use apt-cache search linux | grep k7 to see list
[07:43] <OsirisX11> carthik: where do i put that in synaptic? ;)
[07:43] <carthik> OsirisX11, mostly, only the headers are required (to know various things...)
[07:43] <wweasel> rbman: I am sure you could fix it just by playing around in your menu.lst, but it looks good to me.
[07:44] <OsirisX11> carthik: why do they want the headers? is uname not good enough for it?
[07:44] <wweasel> rbman: I don't see what's wrong with your current menu.lst. And I'd imagine "recovering" grub might do it for you.
[07:44] <carthik> OsirisX11, you can use that command from the terminal's command prompt. In synaptic, search for linux k7 in "name and description"
[07:44] <Flannel> [2] mag: stop it (ctrl-Z)  then use bg to restart it in the background
[07:44] <carthik> OsirisX11, no, they might need more details, such are things :)
[07:44] <Flannel> [2] mag: http://www.tdl.com/~netex/linux-doc-project/install-guide/node136.html
[07:44] <OsirisX11> [2] mag: ctrl-z will give you a number for the process, give that number to bg
[07:45] <thetictacaddict> rbman, maybe try adding two lines, "map (hd0) (hd1)" and "map (hd1) (hd0)" before chainloader +1 ?
[07:46] <achandra> anyone installed XEN successfully ? and can comment on performance, etc?
[07:47] <OsirisX11> has anyone gotten TVUPlayer to work? :(
[07:49] <dibblego> how do I mount a USB hard disk case?
[07:49] <dibblego> is it a device under /dev ?
[07:49] <carthik> dibblego, it should "just mount"
[07:50] <dibblego> carthik, what if it doesn't?
[07:50] <carthik> dibblego, you can use dmesg to find out if it was detected and mounted
[07:50] <dibblego> righto
[07:50] <carthik> dibblego, if you know it is /dev/sda1 (for example) then you can do a pmount /dev/sda1
[07:51] <carthik> dibblego, the lines in the output of dmesg will tell you what happened and what /dev/ node/device was created
[07:51] <dibblego> ok thanks
[07:51] <Ademan> are there any multilanguage gtk based IDEs?
[07:52] <meathead_> anyone want to advise a VM program?
[07:52] <meathead_> I apt-get installed vmware-player, but I guess I can't install a virtual machine with it
[07:53] <carthik> vmware-player is to play the virtual machine images you can download, meathead_ not sure what exactly you want to do, though
[07:53] <meathead_> I want to run windows on linux
[07:53] <Jbirk> where can I find palisten?
[07:53] <meathead_> I thought that's what vmware did
[07:53] <lix> Hi. I've got troubles using my "Omnikey Cardman 4040" pcmcia Card. I think the problem ist somewhere in pcsclite or udev. Can somebody help?
[07:54] <Saimazoon> How can I add quicktime format support to Totem or Gxine ?
[07:54] <Saimazoon> I have no idea about how can I do this
[07:54] <Jbirk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <peanutb> Saimazoon, both
[07:55] <Jbirk> How can I prevent shorewall from automatically starting up?
[07:55] <peanutb> see jbrik
[07:55] <Jbirk> or allow ssh to my box?
[07:55] <Keltor> I have a computer that i'd like to install ubuntu to, but i has a nvidia card that doesn't work with the nv driver ... is there a way i can make the installer use the vesa driver?
[07:56] <meathead_> carthik: no? i'm wrong?
[07:56] <meathead_> carthik: or did you just leave
[07:56] <Rozi> Jbirk: edit /etc/shorewall/rules add SSH/ACCEPT  net  $FW
[07:56] <NickGarvey> meathead_: try vmware server
[07:57] <meathead_> NickGarvey: that in synaptic?
[07:57] <NickGarvey> meathead_: nope
[07:57] <[2] mag> Flannel, OsirisX11: Problem: while the suspend works, the bg doesn't work, it basically stops the process right away again, it behaves just like top, which i can't bg either after stopping it
[07:57] <NickGarvey> meathead_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:58] <meathead_> I see
[07:58] <[2] mag> and i can't stop it and then start it again from screen
[07:58] <meathead_> I really don't want to go through all that just to be able to burn cds
[07:58] <meathead_> but my cd/dvd burner burns cds that won't work
[07:58] <meathead_> and dvds
[07:58] <Jbirk> I recomend you open a terminal window and copy and paste
[07:58] <manji> hey, so i have an Nvidia card. i installed dapper tonite, then installed the nvidia-glx package, then ran `nvidia-glx-config enable`. X now doesnt work
[07:58] <bs_1975> im curious about how to install ebuntu os system on my windows xp home compaq presario amd sempron pc?
[07:58] <Jbirk> just installl all the restricted formats
[07:59] <haboy_> can someone give me a good sound editor application
[07:59] <meathead_> they work in music cd players, but I can't read them from the same drive
[07:59] <carthik> meathead_, I'm sorry - for that you have to create a vmware image first - you can search the wiki/web for details
[07:59] <Jbirk> that way everythign starts working in a hurry
[07:59] <Jbirk> audacity
[07:59] <Jbirk> halboy_: audacity
[07:59] <[2] mag> haboy_: Audacity
[07:59] <carthik> meathead_, the player just plays images - the images are assumed to be there already
[07:59] <Voting> Does anyone here use VNC over SSH? I could use a hand w/ this!
[07:59] <meathead_> okay
[08:00] <meathead_> carthik: I already got that from NickGarvey
[08:00] <Jbirk> Voting, I have done this before
[08:00] <Jbirk> but it has been a while
[08:00] <Jbirk> and I did it with Windows nto Linux
[08:00] <Voting> Jbirk, could you join me in #vncssh for a sec?
[08:00] <Jbirk> Sure
[08:00] <carthik> meathead_, sorry for the repetition then - cant follow what everyone is saying to everyone else :)
[08:00] <Voting> Right, I want to connect a windows box running VNC viewer to a linux server
[08:01] <[2] mag> OsirisX11: I can't bg the process
[08:01] <[2] mag> OsirisX11: just like bging top or vi doesn't work
[08:01] <haboy_> [2] mag: is there a downloadable package of it? i dont want to use sudo apt-get install command
[08:02] <[2] mag> hayboy-: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/linux
[08:02] <[2] mag> pick your poison
[08:02] <Madpilot> haboy_, why not use apt-get or Synaptic? It's far easier to install stuff that way...
[08:03] <[2] mag> haboy_: I agree
[08:03] <jman8888> How can i make my Desktop icons Smaller (They're like huge)
[08:04] <haboy_> [2] mag: i'm just in a cafe. i'm not using my computer. my computer at home doesnt have access to internet. anyway. i think i could install it easily cause i'm using dapper drake
[08:04] <manji> hey, so whats this message about X being broken after a recent update?
[08:04] <naa> hmm
[08:04] <naa> question
[08:04] <carthik> jman8888, try changing your screen resolution to the highest allowed by the display
[08:04] <meathead_> haha
[08:04] <naa> I just downloaded and installed xfce, not sure what to do next to use it though
[08:04] <meathead_> no
[08:04] <meathead_> don't turn up your whole resolution just because ONE thing is too big
[08:05] <meathead_> it'll make everything marginally smaller
[08:05] <peanutb> haboy_, you could just download the deb package
[08:05] <carthik> naa if you want an xfce based desktop, try installing xubuntu-desktop, and then logout of GNOME. Then you can choose the xfce session when logging in (before entering the username and password)
[08:05] <haboy_> peanutb: can you give me the link please
[08:06] <jman8888> carthik, How to i change resolution...
[08:06] <thebishop> what package do i have to install to stream my itunes library in rhythmbox?
[08:06] <carthik> !resolution > jman8888
[08:07] <peanutb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/sound/audacity has the main package but you might want to get a few codecs also
[08:07] <lumgwada> thebishop: try vlc I seem to have better luck with that app
[08:08] <lumgwada> thebishop: without rummaging around for extra codecs... it seemed to work out of the box
[08:08] <jman8888> carthik, So its done in command line
[08:08] <jman8888> ?
[08:08] <thebishop> not codecs, i mean Bonjour/Rendezvou
[08:08] <carthik> jman8888, part of it may have to be done that way. You can check in system->preferences->screen resolution if you like first.
[08:09] <meathead_> can someone help me properly install my cdrom?
[08:09] <slid3r> does anyone else notice/miss/want the fact that if you highlight in a term, it does not auto copy?
[08:09] <meathead_> it's not working correctly
[08:09] <carthik> thebishop, install avahi-daemon
[08:09] <damo22> whatwhats the best kernel for low latency audio? ive tried ingos patchset 2.6.16-rt29, but rosegarden sequencer crashes after a few midi events :/
[08:10] <carthik> thebishop, that is to stream the music in rhythmbox to the network - you may also want to see what avahi-utils does for you
[08:10] <thebishop> thanks Carhik
[08:11] <otroean> Hi I'm trying to connect to www.logmein.com but when i choose to connect to one of the computers firefox responds "Cannot find server".  It works perfectly from other computers
[08:12] <meathead_> is there anyone here who isn't a noobie who can help me?
[08:12] <MorphDK> meathead_, that depends :)
[08:12] <burhan> meathead_: with what?
[08:12] <Hazarath> Ok, need help installing _any_ MUCK clients... preferably with a GUI.
[08:13] <meathead_> my dvd drive. when I burn a data cd or dvd with it, and try to read from that cd, it doesn't work!
[08:13] <meathead_> the information appears to burn correctly
[08:14] <meathead_> it's reading the disc that's the problem
[08:14] <richiefrich> how are u burning it
[08:14] <richiefrich> and what are u burning ?/
[08:14] <meathead_> my fstab has an entry for a /dev/cdrom0
[08:14] <richiefrich> all data ?
[08:14] <Madpilot> meathead_, do the CDs/DVDs burnt from it work on other drives?
[08:14] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know a program what i can use to make a snapshot of a video?
[08:14] <Schalken> how do i mount my ubuntu drive from the livecd?
[08:14] <meathead_> I tried to burn an iso of a dvd, an iso of a cd, using gnomebaker and nerolinux
[08:14] <Schalken> KenSentMe: totem does that.
[08:14] <richiefrich> Schalken open a termail
[08:15] <meathead_> Madpilot: I don't have another drive to test it on
[08:15] <Hazarath> Any help fer the dragon?
[08:15] <Hazarath> lol
[08:15] <Schalken> richiefrich: yep...
[08:15] <meathead_> but it seems like nothing can be read from my drive
[08:15] <tj_> hello...
[08:15] <slid3r> so ... is that a product of the gnome wm that it does not auto copy upon highlighting in terms?
[08:15] <Madpilot> meathead_, do 'real' (pressed) CDs or DVDs work in the drive?
[08:15] <richiefrich> Schalken then mount it.. i dont know what your partitions are
[08:15] <tj9991> a challenger appears
[08:15] <Madpilot> slid3r, it does for me...
[08:15] <richiefrich> Schalken tell me and where u want them  mounted and ill tell u
[08:15] <KenSentMe> Schalken: problem is that Totem can't play my movie and Mplayer can
[08:16] <meathead_> Madpilot: how do you mount a cd if your fstab only has an entry for /dev/cdrom0 and when you type mount /dev/cdrom0 it says device cannot be found?
[08:16] <slid3r> weird I have to right click then click copy
[08:16] <carthik> slid3r, could you be more clear?
[08:16] <richiefrich> KenSentMe totem sucks :P
[08:16] <Schalken> richiefrich: how do i mount it? its at /dev/sda2, ill make a folder in /media/ubuntu to mount it to
[08:16] <cllamb1x> so, is there a way to revert X to it's install state/config files?
[08:16] <slid3r> which is all kindsa backwards for me
[08:16] <alienseer23> is there a media player for linux that has as good as a library, and media lookup as windows media, and as nice a visualization tool as the g-force audio-viz ap?
[08:16] <Hazarath> Ok, need help installing _any_ MUCK clients... preferably with a GUI.
[08:16] <meathead_> doing it through gnome gives me errors about different drives being mounted in the same place and whatnot, but I only have one drive
[08:16] <richiefrich> Schalken mount /dev/sda2 /media/ubuntu
[08:16] <richiefrich> Schalken idk if u need sudo
[08:16] <carthik> slid3r if by "terms" you mean terminal, then Ctrl+c has a different meaning for the terminal, thats why
[08:16] <Madpilot> meathead_, no idea, I've actually never had to mount a CDROM drive via command line...
[08:17] <meathead_> how do you mount cd roms?
[08:17] <Hazarath> Lemme re-enstate my problem... need help installing a .gz type package.
[08:17] <carthik> Hazarath, I guess no one understands what "MUCK" is, or no one knows the answer
[08:17] <slid3r> carthik: in days of yore .. highlighting text in a terminal was sufficient to copy iy
[08:17] <Schalken> richiefrich: that worked! thanks man, (yeah i needed sudo)
[08:17] <slid3r> it
[08:17] <slid3r> nothing else required
[08:17] <richiefrich> Schalken ok then
[08:17] <meathead_> !compile source
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <carthik> slid3r, still is, you can use the middle click on the mouse  to paste it somewhere else
[08:17] <Madpilot> slid3r, highlight & right-click-copy still works from gnome terminal here...
[08:18] <Hazarath> carthik, I need help installing a .gz package.
[08:18] <cllamb1x> can someone help me out with my video card problem?
[08:18] <richiefrich> Schalken i didnt know if u needed it cause do they tell u the password on the liveCD.. i didnt know they did
[08:18] <meathead_> like I said before, is anyone here who isn't a noobie to help?
[08:18] <carthik> Hazarath, what does that have to with MUCK ? anyways, so what is the problem you are facing?
[08:18] <slid3r> well then
[08:18] <jman8888> How do i install and use a compiz Theme?
[08:18] <tj_> Sorry to disturb but does anybody know how to install QQ in ubuntu'?
[08:18] <carthik> cllamb1x, someone could if you asked :)
[08:18] <slid3r> I sit corrected, and grateful
[08:18] <cllamb1x> carthik: sorry, i have asked a couple times, lol
[08:19] <carthik> slid3r, that one had me for some time too...
[08:19] <Hazarath> carthik, I just need ti install the said app, but it doesn't come in .deb, only .gz
[08:19] <carthik> cllamb1x, if you are having xorg problems, then maybe an apt-get upgrade will get the latest fixed version and do it for you
[08:19] <Schalken> richiefrich: yeah sudo doesnt ask u for a password thats all
[08:19] <tj_> Sorry to disturb but does anybody know how to install QQ in ubuntu'?
[08:20] <cllamb1x> basically, i installed dapper tonite, configured a binch of basics, including nvidia-glx package (i have nvidia card). i resart X after everything, and it seems ubuntu thinks i have an ATI card, and X cant start
[08:20] <cllamb1x> but, getting latest version should fix?
[08:20] <otroean> Are there any built in firewall i ubuntu. Have tried to install firestarter and disabled that. It seems that a firewall i blocking my secure loggin to www.logmein.com
[08:20] <carthik> Hazarath, you might have to compile it from source, then, tar -zxvf whatever.tar.gz will untar-gz it, and then there should be a README or INSTALL file that tell you what to do from there on
[08:20] <thebishop> carthik, i installed avahi and utils, and rhythmbox doesn't find my itunes library
[08:20] <carthik> cllamb1x, try it out, if it fails, then take it from there
[08:21] <slid3r> thx again all, night
[08:21] <carthik> thebishop, is your itunes set to "share" freely :)
[08:21] <thebishop> carthik, yep
[08:21] <Lathiat> thebishop: dapper?
[08:21] <thebishop> yep
[08:21] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know where the screenshots are saved that i made with mplayer?
[08:21] <Lathiat> thebishop: run 'avahi-discover'
[08:21] <Lathiat> (in the avahi-discover package)
[08:21] <Lathiat> see if it appears in there
[08:21] <thebishop> just my local stuff
[08:22] <Lathiat> sounds like your itunes isnt advertising then
[08:22] <thebishop> its set to share
[08:22] <Lathiat> have you used the itunes sharing before
[08:22] <Lathiat> e.g. know its on?
[08:22] <Hazarath> carthik, Lemme try a few things, sorry... *ish a Windows convert*
[08:22] <thebishop> it shows up in my OSX box
[08:22] <carthik> I dunno if it is different for sharing between rhythmboxes Vs. sharing between itunes and rhythmbox
[08:22] <cllamb1x> carthik: okay then, xorg is already latest version
[08:22] <thebishop> yea i've used sharing many times before
[08:22] <Lathiat> thebishop: is the itunes your trying to browse a windows or mac?
[08:23] <Lathiat> thebishop: what network/wireless card in the linux machien?
[08:23] <thebishop> and i have my windows box open in RTS so i can change settings easily
[08:23] <thebishop> broadcom 4318 via ndiswrapper
[08:23] <Lathiat> ahh
[08:23] <Lathiat> theres your problem
[08:23] <Lathiat> ndiswrapper doesnt support multicast
[08:23] <thebishop> other network stuff works find
[08:23] <Lathiat> and thus not avahi
[08:23] <thebishop> *fine
[08:23] <carthik> Hazarath, not a problem - often you just have to try rephrasing the question in imaginative ways :) good luck.
[08:23] <Lathiat> you could try the following two things:
[08:23] <thebishop> ethernet
[08:23] <Lathiat> ifconfig <interface> ALLMULTI / or ifconfig <interface> PROMISC
[08:24] <Lathiat> where <interface> is probably eth1
[08:24] <mgm> help
[08:24] <Lathiat> but iirc ndiswrapper doesnt work well at all for that
[08:24] <carthik> thebishop, I have the same chip on a laptop and it didn't work for me too :) (if that is any solace) but I have seen Lathiat's recommendation on a couple of webpages.
[08:24] <Lathiat> yeh its an ndiswrapper thing
[08:24] <Lathiat> unfortunately
[08:25] <Hazarath> carthik, Think I'm just gonna use Wine, and run the Windows client like I'm used to. XD
[08:25] <carthik> Hazarath, what did the INSTALL or README say?
[08:25] <Lathiat> if you used etherne it would probably work
[08:25] <carthik> dont paste it here, Hazarath, just give us the gist
[08:25] <Lathiat> or a different wireless chip
[08:25] <rredd4> how can I disable the xserver-xorg-core update. (I do not want to see the little icon that tells me I have an update to install)  I do not want to install it, as I read the launchpad site and i have nvidia.
[08:25] <Lathiat> rredd4: I beleive that is fixed now
[08:25] <Lathiat> rredd4: what version is it trying to install?
[08:25] <Hazarath> carthik, I'm just gonna try to use the client I know how to work... dirrent MUCK clients can be... annying.
[08:26] <carthik> rredd4, should be fixed, else you can use synaptic to "pin" the package to the version you are using now.
[08:26] <Lathiat> if its 10.3 that one worked here
[08:26] <rredd4> Lathiat no version #, using update manager
[08:26] <cllamb1x> okay, so when starting X, it errors out, saying "NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found"
[08:26] <Lathiat> update manager tells you
[08:26] <Lathiat> if you click on it
[08:26] <Lathiat> iirc
[08:27] <Hazarath> carthik, I'm gonna try my own... unless ya wanna look at the page... I'm pretty much annoyed at the prosses right now.
[08:27] <thebishop> good call Lathiat, plugging in ethernet worked
[08:27] <Lathiat> if you goto 'Show updates'
[08:27] <cllamb1x> any ideas with that warning?
[08:27] <Lathiat> thebishop: yeh, unfortunately ndiswrapper doesnt work with avahi sorry
[08:27] <Lathiat> thebishop: did the ALLMULTI or PROMISC help?
[08:27] <Lathiat> (on wireless)
[08:27] <thebishop> i didn't try them yet
[08:27] <Lathiat> ok please let me know if that works for you
[08:27] <thebishop> any chance 4318 will work with bcm43xx any time soon?
[08:27] <carthik> thebishop, just curious, do your have an AMD64 laptop?
[08:28] <thebishop> no celeron-m
[08:28] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know where the screenshots are saved that i made with mplayer?
[08:28] <rredd4> Lathiat  still do not see it after clicking on it... I am in kubuntu now... switch to ubuntu?
[08:28] <coLD> hello! I need some help if anyone has the time?
[08:28] <meathead_> i would REALLY be happy right now if this install didn't SUCK so bad that I couldn't pirate a version of XP and just INSTALL it
[08:28] <Lathiat> rredd4: Oh sorry I'm not sure about kubuntus update manager
[08:28] <carthik> thebishop, ah! 4318 works with bcm43xx if you fight a little, there is a wiki page that describes how exactly
[08:28] <Lathiat> but i assume the adept one would show the version similarly
[08:28] <haboy_> can someone give me a link of a realplayer for linux. debian package
[08:28] <rredd4> nope
[08:28] <thebishop> carthik, you mean firmwarecutter?
[08:29] <Flannel> !tell haboy_ about realplayer
[08:29] <rredd4> I will go into ubuntu... brb
[08:29] <carthik> thebishop, and all that, yes
[08:29] <carthik> !realplayer
[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <voodoo> haboy_try automatix
[08:30] <alienseer23> !tgz
[08:30] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:30] <coLD> Hi My ubuntu installation wont seem to boot anymore something wonrg with my xorg.conf anyone interested in talking about it please msg me
[08:30] <haboy_> voodoo: automatix?? does it play rmvb files?
[08:30] <carthik> haboy_, realplayer 10 is in the "dapper-commercial" repository - please search the wiki on how to use that repository
[08:30] <alienseer23> how do i install somethi8ng with a tgz or gz extention?
[08:30] <voodoo> haboy u can install automatix and choose realplayer from there
[08:30] <carthik> alienseer23, depends on what exactly you are trying to install
[08:31] <alienseer23> winetools and sidenet
[08:31] <carthik> voodoo, please don't recommend hammers to swat flies :)
[08:31] <thebishop> carthik, wanna link me up?
[08:31] <haboy_> carthik: i'm still using breezy
[08:31] <voodoo> cold u have to rollback your xserver the recent update breaks X
[08:31] <coLD> i didnt even realise there was a substantial update
[08:31] <cllamb1x> okay so in my xorg.conf, it has a Device section, with device label "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] ". i have an nvidia 6800, why does it say this?
[08:31] <carthik> thebishop, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[08:32] <coLD> voodoo i have yet to need to do this how do i go about rolling back my xserver
[08:32] <alienseer23> ah, nevermiond, thqanks
[08:32] <rredd4> Lathiat  its 10.4
[08:33] <redblades> Hi all, I'm in a kinda desperate situation...
[08:33] <Hazarath> carthik, Can I PM you?
[08:33] <Lathiat> rredd4: thats fixed
[08:33] <Lathiat> rredd4: should be safe to upgrade
[08:33] <rredd4> ok  ty
[08:33] <rredd4> should be...?
[08:33] <rredd4> hmmm
[08:33] <carthik> Hazarath, sure
[08:33] <wweasel> Could someone give me a concise way to explain the idea of symbolic links to a Windows user?
[08:34] <redblades> I turned on my computer, to find that (kubuntu) freezes when it gets to the boot screen (the one listing stuff about loading drivers, etc)
[08:34] <carthik> rredd4, First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[08:34] <NickGarvey> redblades: what else does it say?
[08:34] <Stormzoeker> goodmorning everyone ;)
[08:34] <cllamb1x> wweasel: windows shortcuts, on steroids
[08:34] <rredd4> carthik  ok, sounds like very good advise.. ty!!
[08:35] <redblades> Nothing, the progress bar is empty, it just freezes, and I have two hit alt + 1/2/3/4/5/6 to get to a console.
[08:35] <wweasel> good morning Stormzoeker. actually...i haven't gone to bed yet.
[08:35] <redblades> I'm on BitchX
[08:35] <redblades> NickGarvey ?
[08:35] <wweasel> stormzoeker: what time is it for you?
[08:35] <on> I need some first aid emergence help: this morning I sart ubuntu and Xorg fails to work... I got a lot off work to do today so I really need my Ubuntu to work!
[08:35] <MegaLondon> Hello! How do I correct broken X after recent update problem..I can`t see any instructions on the link
[08:36] <Stormzoeker>  8:36 am ;)
[08:36] <voodoo> haboy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[08:36] <Hazarath> carthik, Hold on, gotta reg, lol
[08:36] <wweasel> !xorgbug
[08:36] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[08:36] <wweasel> !tell Megalondon about xorgbug
[08:36] <carthik> Hazarath, come to #ubuntu-classroom please
[08:36] <bambi^> Hi, im trying to install wine. I have added the Repository but when i do sudo apt-get install wine i get error mesasge that it cant find it
[08:36] <rredd4> carthik  apt-cache says     Installed 10.1    Candidate  10.4
[08:36] <Stormzoeker> wweasel: 8:36am
[08:36] <NickGarvey> bambi^: apt-get update first
[08:36] <NickGarvey> redblades: not really sure.. if you have a boot cd try reading your log files
[08:36] <bambi^> NickGarvey:  Done
[08:36] <wweasel> bambi^: sudo apt-get update ?
[08:37] <NickGarvey> bambi^: still not there?
[08:37] <bambi^> I have done that, it says 404 on the rep i just added
[08:37] <carthik> rredd4, upgrade already :)
[08:37] <rredd4> lol
[08:37] <on> msg ubotu xorgbugfix
[08:37] <shmok> Hello guys. I just bought a macbook pro, and I want to install ubuntu and windows xp in addition to mac os x. how can I do it, should I use bootcamp?
[08:37] <on> doesn't work
[08:37] <redblades> NickGarvey I'm using the computer now, so I can just read the log file...
[08:37] <wweasel> Stormzoeker: 2:37 AM ... I really should go to bed soon. :P
[08:38] <NickGarvey> redblades: that works
[08:38] <carthik> shmok, lucky you!! http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffelipe-alfaro.org%2Fblog%2F2006%2F08%2F19%2Finstalling-ubuntu-linux-on-a-macbook-pro%2F&ei=v_frRMjfO6C6wQLWroSODg&sig2=g9jyj0fUws3qjetGwFHHhQ
[08:38] <carthik> ugh sorry folks
[08:38] <redblades> NickGarvey the error log says "Fatal Server Error - No screens found"
[08:38] <bambi^> Is there any chance to get wine from any other repository-source?
[08:39] <johnnybezak> shmok: well haven't you just set yourself a challenge :)
[08:39] <NickGarvey> redblades: chroot into kubuntu, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:39] <redblades> NickGarvey chroot? I'm not familiar with that command...
[08:40] <NickGarvey> redblades: mm.. this will be fun
[08:40] <NickGarvey> redblades: mount your ubuntu partition, and tell me where you mount it
[08:40] <martianpenguin> is it safe to do the xserver upgrade if we had that prblem earlier?
[08:41] <martianpenguin> is it fixed now?
[08:41] <NickGarvey> martianpenguin: yup
[08:41] <martianpenguin> k
[08:41] <martianpenguin> my brother woke me up for tyhis
[08:41] <cllamb1x> okay so i found my x problem, but now i need a valid string in the "Device" field for my monitor
[08:41] <cllamb1x> anybody know anything i could put in there?
[08:42] <redblades> NickGarvey ... What do you mean?
[08:42] <NickGarvey> wait, are you running off a live cd?
[08:42] <NickGarvey> redblades: ^
[08:43] <NickGarvey> redblades: or are you running off your hard drive?
[08:43] <redblades> NickGarvey No, I'm not...
[08:43] <NickGarvey> redblades: oh! I thought you said it froze, ok, this is easy then, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:43] <NickGarvey> reboot, and there you go
[08:44] <blupblup> hello.. I am a newbie here..need some help.. I just finish install ..I like it so much.. Free OS, Office.. I can't ask for more..
[08:44] <peace-keeper> f*cking shit i downloaded some update and now my X server is broken
[08:44] <NickGarvey> !language > peace-keeper
[08:44] <peace-keeper> ?
[08:44] <NickGarvey> peace-keeper: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:44] <on> me too
[08:44] <NickGarvey> !language
[08:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:44] <on> just dist-upgrade
[08:45] <rredd4> I guess it pays to come in here first before doing upgrades!!!
[08:45] <on> what happend how can day send such a bad patch and then say urgency is low this flaw?
[08:45] <peace-keeper> it was one of those automatic updates that just pop up
[08:45] <peace-keeper> then after installing, ubuntu crashed and after reboot the X server won't start :(
[08:46] <NickGarvey> peace-keeper: please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:46] <peace-keeper> okay i try it, thanks
[08:46] <rredd4> peace-keeper  it works!
[08:46] <peace-keeper> yeah it's downloading xserver-xorg-core, sounds good :D
[08:46] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:47] <on> this will turn a lot off people away from GNU/Linux
[08:47] <rredd4> does ubuntu update manager do a apt-get update before it downloads the updates?  (i notice that Adept does)
[08:47] <UpMarc> please... I'm new to this and had problems with xserver :-(
[08:47] <NickGarvey> rredd4: yeah, thats how it knows that it needs new ones :)
[08:47] <johnnybezak> have you guys seen that google is doing spread sheets now wtf?
[08:47] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:47] <UpMarc> where can I find instructions to fix it up?
[08:48] <NickGarvey> johnnybezak: and word processing
[08:48] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: Thank you
[08:48] <on> UpMarc: just type apt-get update    apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <rredd4> NickGarvery  so it does that in the background
[08:48] <NickGarvey> on: I don't think its a distupgrade
[08:48] <NickGarvey> rredd4: yes
[08:48] <redblades> NickGarvey THANKS!
[08:48] <redblades> It works now
[08:48] <NickGarvey> redblades: :)
[08:49] <redblades> I'll be back in X!!!
[08:49] <johnnybezak> NickGarvey: did they just buy someone or make that from scratch
[08:49] <MegaLondon> what do I do to fix xorg and get update after the command: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core ?
[08:50] <rredd4> maybe someone should add the instructions for the x problem to the bot...
[08:50] <weasel|BRB> it is
[08:50] <wweasel> !xorgbug
[08:50] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[08:50] <rredd4> great
[08:50] <sk1dge> i have a quick question,, i'm new, and i'm doing well, but i keep getting stuck on the simplest things!  can anyone tell me how to create a file as root?  (it needs to go in /etc)
[08:50] <johnnybezak> sk1dge: sudo nano nameoffile
[08:51] <wweasel> sk1dge: Well, I'd imagine you're talking about a text file? sudo gedit filename
[08:51] <NickGarvey> johnnybezak: wait what?
[08:51] <sk1dge> yes, text
[08:51] <NickGarvey> johnnybezak: oh no idea
[08:51] <birdbrain> press ctrl-o to write file and ctrl x to exit in nano
[08:51] <johnnybezak> NickGarvey: haha k
[08:51] <nikin> hy
[08:51] <johnnybezak> sk1dge: my way is in terminal, wweasel is in gedit
[08:51] <MegaLondon> I see that the cancidate is vers 1.0.4 ..how  to I download and install ?
[08:51] <Saimazoon> How can I install gmplayer in ubuntu ?
[08:51] <merc> i've a problem with non-flash video in firefox, all i get is a black screen with "(no picture)" ... is this a known issue with an easy solution? or did i just muck bunches of junk up by installing too many plugins/video handlers etc..
[08:51] <Saimazoon> It isn't in my repositories
[08:51] <sk1dge> and where do i put the location?  just like "sudo gedit /etc/nameoffile" ?
[08:52] <wweasel> johnnybezak: most new people prefer the GUI solution.
[08:52] <wweasel> sk1dge: exactly!
[08:52] <NickGarvey> johnnybezak: Upstartle owned the word processor, google bought them
[08:52] <sk1dge> sweeeet ty so much :)
[08:52] <wweasel> np :)
[08:52] <nikin> is there an applicaton hat is like vncserver but that gives the user not an X session, but a console?
[08:52] <wweasel> nikin: ssh?
[08:52] <johnnybezak> NickGarvey: ok are they gonna googlefy it like the spreadsheet is or just keep the writely brand
[08:52] <merc> nikin: ssh
[08:53] <johnnybezak> wweasel: you're right, i just did what i'm used to :)
[08:53] <NickGarvey> johnnybezak: hehe no idea, its beta
[08:53] <johnnybezak> NickGarvey: haha of course it is, it's google
[08:53] <carthik> nikin, ssh
[08:53] <sk1dge> w00000000000t!
[08:53] <buntu418> how to activate whole address in firefox with a single click.. it doesnt work like how it works on windows(address bar)
[08:53] <wweasel> Well, they bought it while it was in beta.
[08:53] <NickGarvey> buntu418: double click?
[08:53] <wweasel> And why would they take it out of beta? Google...
[08:53] <Saimazoon> Hey
[08:53] <NickGarvey> buntu418: hit f6 maybe
[08:53] <sk1dge> ty u 2.. i'll be cak later to try and get y'all to get my audio set up right ;)
[08:53] <MegaLondon> What commands do I user to upgrade xserver-xorg-core to the 1.0.4 candidate version?
[08:54] <MegaLondon> *use
[08:54] <sk1dge> cak=back
[08:54] <Saimazoon> How can I install gmplayer from Synaptic ?
[08:54] <NickGarvey> MegaLondon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:54] <Saimazoon> It doesn't appear in my initial set of repositorires
[08:54] <Madpilot> !info gmplayer
[08:54] <ubotu> Package gmplayer does not exist in dapper
[08:54] <Saimazoon> Damn
[08:54] <buntu418> NickGarvey: thanks... no single clicking is it?
[08:54] <NickGarvey> buntu418: maybe.. not sure
[08:54] <buntu418> NickGarvey:thanks..
[08:54] <NickGarvey> buntu418: I normally use the keyboard anyway, so I use f6
[08:54] <MegaLondon> Nick ... dows that identify the xcore upgrade and install it?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> MegaLondon: yes
[08:55] <wweasel> MegaLondon: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[08:55] <Saimazoon> I was looking foward to install gmplayer in my computer, but doesn't show up in the repository listing
[08:55] <buntu418> NickGarvey: i too would appreciate to use f6 from now on :) tc
[08:55] <gpm> hi all, i have msttcorefonts, but when i try to wine anything i get no fonts...any help?
[08:55] <MegaLondon> wweasel ..will that install latest version?
[08:55] <NickGarvey> :)
[08:56] <wweasel> !tell wweasel about xorgbug
[08:56] <NickGarvey> MegaLondon: yes
[08:56] <wweasel> MegaLondon: yeah
[08:56] <NickGarvey> MegaLondon: need to apt-get update first thouggh
[08:56] <NickGarvey> wweasel: /msg ubotu xorgbug
[08:56] <NickGarvey> wweasel: that works better
[08:56] <MegaLondon> ok thank you!
[08:56] <wweasel> NickGarvey: Thanks :P
[08:57] <buntu418> do we need to install the ati driver from ati if ubuntu installed the driver oready
[08:57] <Kalidarn> u need xorg 7.0
[08:57] <drewfus_> hehe, wow, lovely update
[08:57] <Kalidarn> as the ABI changed in Xorg 7.1 where as all distributions it breaks on
[08:58] <Antagonist77> Hi everyone!
[08:58] <Kalidarn> with NVIDIA and ATI
[08:58] <Antagonist77> Can someone tell me how I can use my Nokia 6230 with Ubuntu?
[08:58] <Antagonist77> bluetooth
[08:58] <meathead_> hahaha, I rock.
[08:59] <meathead_> I learned how to do everything without a cdrom
[08:59] <OsirisX11> [Sound Problem]  i can't get sound to work in Parallels, it wants to use /dev/dsp and that is my only option in the dropdown.
[09:00] <drewfus_> so what happened with that update?
[09:00] <Schalken> for how long was the brocken xorg update live?
[09:00] <johnnybezak> Schalken: too long :)
[09:01] <Schalken> i got a pretty good fright when i came home today to do some work and X didnt boot up
[09:01] <drewfus_> lol, yeah, that happened to a lot of people, me included
[09:01] <OsirisX11> oh ok i can add sound manually, what should i put for sound output.. it wants a /dev
[09:01] <NickGarvey> Schalken: for a good chunk of time..
[09:02] <OsirisX11> if a program wants to output to a sound device what filename should i give it? /dev/?
[09:02] <thanqol_> Can anyone help me out? Linux won't let me log in because it's 'not registering my graphics card' or something.
[09:02] <rredd4> I got lucky, haven't booted  into ubuntu for about a week.  the update tonight was safe, but came in here first to check on it before I updated!
[09:02] <NickGarvey> thanqol_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:03] <thanqol_> I'm off a live CD. Would that work?
[09:03] <NickGarvey> thanqol_: oh, is that problem with the live cd?
[09:03] <thanqol_> No, with my actual boot.
[09:03] <NickGarvey> thanqol_: did it say "no screens available"?
[09:03] <drewfus_> thanqol, i think you just got the new update bug
[09:03] <drewfus_> here is how i fixed it
[09:04] <thanqol_> Ah, that'd be it.
[09:04] <thanqol_> I downloaded a new update last night.
[09:04] <Schalken> thanqol_: me to :( :P
[09:04] <thanqol_> So, what do I do to fix it?
[09:04] <rredd4> !xorgbug
[09:04] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[09:05] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: commands didn't work... message:"Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg), are you root?"
[09:05] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: try sudo
[09:05] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: and close synaptic and such
[09:05] <Schalken> ubotu xorgbugfix
[09:05] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[09:05] <UpMarc> idid first with sudo as you recommended... then without
[09:05] <Schalken> hmmm
[09:05] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: you will need to use sudo
[09:06] <thanqol_> Ah okies.
[09:06] <skdanil> hi
[09:06] <thanqol_> So sudo apt-get update then apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core?
[09:06] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: I'm too new to this.... what is synaptic? there was nothing but the prompt: "marc@marc-desktop:/$"
[09:07] <skdanil> halooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:07] <UpMarc> just black screen and prompt
[09:07] <Goshawk> hi
[09:07] <skdanil> i am newst
[09:07] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: my command was:
[09:08] <drewfus_> here is what fixed the xserver problem for me
[09:08] <skdanil> help me
[09:08] <UpMarc> sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:08] <drewfus_> log into terminal (ctrl + alt + f1)  run  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[09:08] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: oh I'm sorry, sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:08] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: run that command
[09:08] <skdanil> id like to learn this
[09:09] <drewfus_> what in the update caused all these problems?
[09:09] <MegaLondon> Alright! Kind of annoing now!  Ran apt-get upgrade..it sees the xcore upgrade available but is unable to fetch the archives
[09:09] <drewfus_> anyone know?
[09:09] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: just "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[09:09] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: yes
[09:09] <UpMarc> ok... ty
[09:09] <NickGarvey> MegaLondon: sudo?
[09:09] <birdbrain> some mirrors may not have the packages yet
[09:09] <MegaLondon> yes
[09:09] <dazvid> Does anyone know a good alternative to a graphical spice program for ubuntu?
[09:10] <MegaLondon> so where do I find the update?
[09:10] <nodeps> lo
[09:10] <birdbrain> i would downgrade until it is on your mirror
[09:10] <nodeps> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from adding my router's ip as a dns search suffix in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:10] <nodeps> everytime i boot the machine or bring up the network it changes my /etc/resolv.conf
[09:10] <trygg> Is there some apt-getable front-end for top?
[09:11] <YeTr2> what tools are there for burning cdroms with mdf/mds images?
[09:11] <Flannel> trygg: system-monitor (or whatever) is a frontend already installed, its like task manager on windows
[09:12] <MegaLondon> Where can I can I get the xserver-xorg-core upgrade packages?
[09:12] <coLD> hey guys i had a question i know the update was bad and all and prevents xserver from starting or whatever
[09:12] <trygg> Flannel: Good stuff. I remember gtop which i kinda liked but i guess this will do. Thx. ;)
[09:12] <tranquil> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:12] <coLD> but i have done what it says on the forums about downgrading but still cant get booted
[09:12] <klepas> thanqol_:
[09:13] <drewfus_> cold,  log into terminal (ctrl + alt + f1)  run  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[09:13] <drewfus_> that worked for me
[09:13] <bingogu> with which command could i config my sound card under xorg
[09:13] <birdbrain> sound card under xorg?
[09:14] <coLD> drewfus msg me
[09:14] <coLD> plz
[09:15] <coLD> hey umm i did that drewfus and it still gives me the no screens found error
[09:15] <NickGarvey> coLD: reboot
[09:15] <coLD> i have
[09:15] <coLD> i will try again i guess
[09:15] <kloptops> omg, yay, that worked for me :)
[09:16] <kloptops> thanks a bunch... :>
[09:16] <Schalken> coLD: so you downloaded xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-dev and installed them?
[09:16] <Schalken> coLD: (the fixed ones from people.ubuntu.com)
[09:17] <UpMarc> NickGarvey: just came to thank you again.... I'm back to Ubuntu :-)
[09:17] <Lynoure> Is the new xserver-xorg-core (10.4) any good?
[09:17] <Madpilot> Lynoure, apparently
[09:18] <NickGarvey> UpMarc: :)
[09:18] <UpMarc> bye
[09:18] <linopil> !wifi
[09:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:18] <linopil> !flashplugin
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <linopil> !flash
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:18] <NickGarvey> !flash > linopil
[09:19] <linopil> 10x
[09:19] <cool_nick> i updated my dapper and my xserver crashed. i had installed nvidia drivers. can anyone help?
[09:19] <valehru> Is there a firewall which gives you notices about what processes are accessing it, i.e. then you can block them?
[09:20] <valehru> also, is there a reason skype doesnt work when bmp media player is on?
[09:20] <wozniak> has anybody heard of a problem with Ubuntu freezing on the start of firefox or other interent applications?
[09:20] <benx213> cool_nick, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[09:20] <operative> wozniak: I had that once, it was a really nasty unresolved bug with the grahics driver, gtk and some other foo
[09:20] <cool_nick> benx213: thanks
[09:21] <wozniak> operative: is there any way to fix it? i cant even access help forums
[09:22] <operative> Is it on *all* internet applications?
[09:22] <benx213> no problem
[09:22] <wozniak> as far as i can tell right now, it is jsut firefox
[09:22] <wozniak> i tried installing another internet browser, and it froze during that
[09:23] <wozniak> this works obviously, im on the system now
[09:23] <operative> during the install? oddness is this the machine you are talking to us on now?
[09:23] <wozniak> yes
[09:23] <operative> anything in dmesg?
[09:23] <wozniak> i dont know what that means
[09:23] <operative> dmesg | tail -n 20
[09:23] <peter1984> Is there a way to set up ubuntu, so the user cant touch anything? Not even removing iconsand such.
[09:24] <wozniak> im a newbie
[09:24] <wozniak> i really dont know much
[09:24] <wozniak> gaim is working
[09:24] <operative> ok wozniak, when you say they *crash* what is the observed behaviour?
[09:25] <operative> do the freeze? does they close? etc
[09:25] <wozniak> everything freezes up
[09:25] <ashik> is there anybody who is familiar with launchpad?
[09:25] <wozniak> nothing closes
[09:25] <wozniak> it jsut freezes
[09:25] <ashik> is there anybody who is familiar with launchpad?
[09:25] <birdbrain> can you get out of it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:25] <wozniak> keyboard is non-responsive, mouse is nonresponsive
[09:25] <ashik> is there anybody who is familiar with launchpad?
[09:25] <birdbrain> wozniak: can you get out of it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:25] <wozniak> havent tried
[09:25] <Madpilot> ashik, do NOT repeat, ask once and wait...
[09:26] <wozniak> i can try to open firefox again and try it when it freezes
[09:26] <Madpilot> ashik, it would also help if you asked a more specific question....
[09:26] <Goshawk> ashik: do your question
[09:26] <ashik> Madpilot: sorry
[09:26] <birdbrain> wozniak: is this only for firefox?
[09:26] <wozniak> if ctrl-alt backspace does work what do i do after that
[09:26] <coLD> hi guys back again
[09:26] <wozniak> so far, it has done it before with gaim and evolution
[09:26] <birdbrain> wozniak: hopefully login, but possibly reboot, ctrl-alt-delete
[09:26] <wozniak> ok
[09:26] <wozniak> ill try it
[09:27] <birdbrain> wozniak: just help diagnose it thats all, isolate what is causing probs
[09:27] <operative> wozniak: if it freezes up again, try hitting the numlock and caps lock buttons, they wont do any unlocking but, if they come on, it tends to mean somewhere in the bowls of your computer there is a flicker of life, if that works the ctrl-alt backspace might, you see what these good people are thinking is that X is locking up, not your whole box
[09:27] <peter1984> No one who knows how to lock gnome?
[09:27] <sk1dge> hi again,, i think i have another quick one.. has anyone done the WoW setup thing on this page?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[09:27] <operative> peter1984: a decent permissions setup
[09:27] <Goshawk> peter1984: i know how to lock icons and applets
[09:27] <coLD> once  again i have booted into terminal and used the command sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 and it doesnt seem to be fixing my problem
[09:28] <Madpilot> peter1984, what do you mean by "lock Gnome"?
[09:28] <ashik> I am looking for localization of one software
[09:28] <Goshawk> peter1984: but people are still able to remove them
[09:28] <birdbrain> coLD: try  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <peter1984> madpilot: The user should not be able to touch anything
[09:28] <ashik> In launchpad I can view only few lines for translation
[09:28] <peter1984> Not changing the icons, menus and so on
[09:28] <coLD> ok brb
[09:29] <ashik> Is there any way to get all those lines as text file?
[09:29] <operative> again peter1984 all you need to do is read a decent guide to setting up permissions
[09:29] <operative> wb wozniak
[09:30] <wozniak> thanks
[09:30] <peter1984> Even if i set the perms, they would still be able to change some things, related to their user. And i dont want that:-)
[09:30] <wozniak> ctrl-alt-backspace did not work
[09:30] <wozniak> keyboard is nonreposnsive
[09:30] <wozniak> *sp
[09:30] <birdbrain> wozniak: does this only happen with firefox
[09:30] <wozniak> right now it is happening only with firefox
[09:30] <ashik> In launchpad I can view only few lines for translation
[09:30] <ashik> Is there any way to get all those lines as text file?
[09:30] <wozniak> in the past it has happened with evolution mail, and gaim
[09:30] <peter1984> asnik: u want to translate?
[09:30] <birdbrain> wozniak: try running it from the command line, so you can do ctrl-c to kill it if it fails
[09:31] <operative> peter1984: assuming that the gnome session they were in was running off personalised configs, running off a group permission set for example would fix your problem
[09:31] <birdbrain> is it eating up a lot of memory?
[09:31] <ashik> peter:yes
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> peter1984, make the whole home folder of the user read only perhaps?
[09:31] <peter1984> Then they cant save docs
[09:31] <operative> well then you make there docs folder +w
[09:31] <peter1984> operative: ill look in to that
[09:31] <wozniak> im not sure
[09:31] <ppcguy> hey all.. borked my xerver.. it's dpgk.. xserver? To fix?
[09:31] <WarOfAttrition> Separate a folder that has write permissions
[09:31] <wozniak> has anyone else heard of this prolem or had it before?
[09:31] <operative> peter1984: please go and read a chmod guide :)
[09:32] <operative> wozniak: had similar
[09:32] <otroean_> How can i install grub after installing windows. 1. installed Ubuntu with grub - 2. installed win xp. No Grub loader is gone.
[09:32] <wozniak> how did you fix it, if you did
[09:32] <NickGarvey> !grub > otroean
[09:32] <wozniak> im not really sure what the exact problem is
[09:32] <birdbrain> wozniak: have you got any firefox plugins install or is it a default install
[09:32] <otroean_> NickGarvey: Where can i write !grub
[09:32] <ppcguy> hey all.. borked my xerver.. it's dpgk.. xserver? To fix?
[09:32] <otroean_> ok...
[09:33] <wozniak> it is default
[09:33] <otroean_> !grub
[09:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:33] <peter1984> operative: Try and look at this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CorporateUbuntu#head-d352f99d075048f6e8f0b38d1ba1bb221bda9956
[09:33] <WarOfAttrition> does the livecd have a grub installer? that would be useful
[09:33] <peter1984> damn sorry!!
[09:33] <peter1984> long link:-(
[09:33] <RamiKassab> hey guys what good accounting applications are available for linux? The only one I'm away of is GNU Cash, are there any others out there for comparison>
[09:33] <peter1984> i think it is the one i need, but im not sure
[09:33] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > ppcguy
[09:34] <peter1984> rami: I think there is one called saldi. But i thinks its danish
[09:34] <birdbrain> wozniak: okay, sorry missed your reply, im thinking
[09:34] <RamiKassab> peter1984: oh that won't help :)
[09:34] <ppcguy> NickGavery.. Thanks fo rthat.. But the command on cli is what? dpgk recongfigure-xserver-xorg?
[09:35] <peter1984> Operative: Even if i alter chmod, the thy still would be able to change theme an such right?
[09:35] <wozniak> birdbrain: it is a default install, i think, but it has happened before, with other programs, though not always on startup
[09:35] <birdbrain> wozniak: have you run memtest86 to check your memory?
[09:35] <Minty64> morning :)
[09:35] <peter1984> rami: http://www.saldi.dk/english/
[09:36] <wozniak> i assume i run that in the terminal?
[09:36] <wozniak> i really am new at this crap
[09:36] <atm0sph> whats the channel for xgl / compiz help
[09:36] <atm0sph> ?
[09:36] <atm0sph> I broke X
[09:36] <ppcguy> join the club atm0sph...lol
[09:36] <birdbrain> wozniak: no problem, all new at one stage. The install/livecd should have the ability to run memtest86
[09:37] <RamiKassab> peter1984: have you heard of qasar?
[09:37] <atm0sph> ppcguy : you broke x too?
[09:37] <peter1984> rami: nope
[09:37] <birdbrain> wozniak:i have found faulty memory has really borked my system
[09:37] <operative> peter1984: only if they were the owner
[09:37] <peter1984> ill have di do some reading and tweaks... U know a good guide?
[09:37] <operative> peter1984: if you made the files owned by say, root, and just gave them group permissions, then that would solve the problem
[09:38] <peter1984> aha!
[09:38] <wozniak> birdbrain: ok, i understand that I can run memtest86 to check memory, but i still dont know where to run it
[09:38] <peter1984> Nice one thanks
[09:38] <operative> np
[09:38] <birdbrain> wozniak:can't remember what the boot option is to get there but it should be fairly strait forward. Ill test it in aminute
[09:38] <wozniak> and i know youve probably explained it very well already
[09:38] <peter1984> wozniak: u run it at boot time
[09:39] <RamiKassab> peter1984: it looks pretty good according to online reviews
[09:39] <birdbrain> wozniak: you need to reboot with your install cd in, just give me to ticks to get another computer going with the ubuntu install/livecd and I will walk you through it
[09:39] <kholerabbi> anyone know a good mouse gestures app for dapper gnome? I haven't used gestures so I thought i'd try them out
[09:39] <peter1984> U have memtest as an option, when u boot the ubuntu cd
[09:39] <wozniak> birdbrain: i dont have the isntall cd here
[09:40] <coLD> ok  guys i have dont the sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 as well as sudo dpkg -reoncfigure xserver-xorg
[09:40] <operative> for what its worth, I cant see how it would be a memory error, as firefox will be alloc'ing different blocks each time, and its only internet apps. But ram has caused stranger errors in the past I guess
[09:40] <keitaro> Has anyone gotten VMWare on ubuntu to play nice with the sound? I've been reading the forums, but the vmware-esd wrappers don't work for me
[09:40] <coLD> and still i get the no screens found error someone please help me
[09:40] <operative> keitaro: sure, just kill esd and use alsa
[09:40] <birdbrain> wozniak:well the install cd has a memory test option when it boots up. Do you have access to a burner?
[09:40] <operative> much easier than using a wrapper to a sounds deamon
[09:40] <kholerabbi> coLD: Have you got that bug xserver bug from the updates a few days ago?
[09:40] <coLD> ya
[09:41] <coLD> the update bug crap
[09:41] <kholerabbi> I got that, and fixed it first try, just wait and I'll send you the intructions..
[09:41] <wozniak> birdbrain: im running ubuntu right now on a laptop, the dock to the laptop hasa burner in it
[09:41] <keitaro> operative: alrighty
[09:41] <coLD> ok thanks i will wait
[09:42] <TBScripter> ah, apt-get is broken, everything is broken, i cant even install bittorrent :(
[09:42] <operative> TBScripter: woops
[09:42] <Rozi> specify broken :)
[09:42] <operative> TBScripter: define broken?
[09:42] <keitaro> operative: any good pointers to look to install alsa?
[09:42] <TBScripter> umm "dependencies" it cant download
[09:43] <operative> if your using ubuntu is already there. Just kill esd
[09:43] <Madpilot> TBScripter, depends for what?
[09:43] <coLD> kill esd?
[09:43] <operative> yup :)
[09:43] <TBScripter> Madpilot: everything i dunno
[09:43] <kholerabbi> coLD: I hope this works for you: Restart your computer, at the GRUB options select the rescue option - a root command prompt should come up, type this "wget  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb"
[09:43] <keitaro> operative: hmm alright its dead, so alsa takes over by default?
[09:44] <kholerabbi> ..although that will only work if you have an active interne
[09:44] <kholerabbi> t
[09:44] <Madpilot> TBScripter, seriously, you need to be more specific than 'everything' and 'it's broken'...
[09:44] <operative> keitaro: alsa is whats producing your sounds, esd is mixing input from mainly gnome apps and passing that mixed pcm stream to alsa
[09:44] <TBScripter> ok il just type in terminal and see what error comes up most often and il start witht that
[09:44] <coLD> kholerabbi i will give that a shot brb
[09:44] <kholerabbi> ok
[09:44] <daurnimator> !fixres
[09:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:44] <operative> so yeah, if you cut out esd, you can do most things fine anyway
[09:44] <Madpilot> TBScripter, what are you trying to install that gets you depend errors?
[09:45] <operative> TBScripter: I would go fix your sources file
[09:45] <TBScripter> i did
[09:45] <operative> hmm
[09:45] <Madpilot> TBScripter, could you pastebin your sources.list for us, please?
[09:45] <TBScripter> there isn't anything wrong with it
[09:45] <Rozi> TBScripter apt-get update works?
[09:45] <keitaro> operative: hmm well im still getting the /dev/dsp is busy
[09:45] <TBScripter> no apt-get update says that a file is missing
[09:46] <operative> is esd really dead?
[09:46] <keitaro> i did a killall esd
[09:46] <keitaro> doing a ps -aux | egrep -i esd shows nothing
[09:46] <Madpilot> TBScripter, then there is likely something wrong with your sources.list - pastebin it, please...
[09:46] <operative> look for aplay aswell
[09:46] <birdbrain> wozniak:still here are you?
[09:46] <wozniak> birdbrain: yes
[09:46] <keitaro> operative: no processes
[09:46] <TBScripter> pastebin?
[09:47] <operative> you see, some apps like gaim can use aplay for noises, these often slap against esd and cause blocking
[09:47] <Rozi> !pastebin
[09:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:47] <birdbrain> wozniak:when you boot into ubuntu, it should have the memtest option on the boot menu. does yours?
[09:47] <operative> keitaro: lsof | grep dsp
[09:47] <wozniak> birdbrain: when i reboot, i should press escape or whatever to get into the boot menu?
[09:48] <Jaggz-> Hello pink baby puppies!
[09:48] <Rozi> Jaggz- (>_<)
[09:48] <birdbrain> wozniak: possibly, what comes up on your grub boot menu? just linux-yada yada or does it just boot straight in?
[09:48] <Jaggz-> lol
[09:48] <keitaro> operative: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21450
[09:48] <TBScripter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21449
[09:49] <wozniak> i believe it says linux etc, with a few seconds to go the boot menu, then it boots up
[09:49] <TBScripter> is my sources
[09:49] <Jaggz-> can I look at my other computer's evolution calendar for an appointment I added?
[09:49] <Jaggz-> from remote
[09:49] <wozniak> birdbrain:i am using the system right now, so i cant try these things while talking
[09:49] <birdbrain> wozniak:okay, you just need to hit an arrow key, escape might work anykey probably will,
[09:50] <birdbrain> no problem well ill wait here, here is the link to memtest if this fails to download memtest iso http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.2.iso.zip
[09:50] <operative> keitaro: you dont need to use the wrapper now, vmware can play nicely with alsa all on its own
[09:50] <birdbrain> wozniak:it will create a bootable memtest disc, but try rebooting first and selecting memtest from the bootmenu
[09:50] <wozniak> birdbrain: so i reboot, get to bootmenu, how do i run memtest86 once there: what is the comand?
[09:51] <birdbrain> wozniak:scroll down using your arrow keys and press enter. it will just work from there
[09:51] <wozniak> ok
[09:51] <MorphDK> which multimedia-player is best to use as firefox-plugin? Totem?
[09:51] <operative> mplayer + realplayer
[09:52] <wozniak> birdbrain:i should be back in several minutes, if not, something serious has happened
[09:52] <operative> erk
[09:52] <birdbrain> wozniak:np :)
[09:52] <wozniak> birdbrain:what should i be looking for once i do run memtest86?
[09:52] <MorphDK> operative, last time i installed mplayer, it crashed and became unresponsive all the time..
[09:52] <MorphDK> just like my friends ;)
[09:52] <keitaro> operative: alright well i tried it again, killed vmware, same thing
[09:52] <birdbrain> it will spew out lots of errors if there are problems, you may need to leave it running for some time
[09:52] <operative> MorphDK: well do it properly this time :P
[09:52] <wozniak> birdbrain:ok
[09:52] <wozniak> birdbrain:bbl
[09:52] <birdbrain> wozniak:most serious errors are found quikcly
[09:52] <birdbrain> wozniak:leave it do one run
[09:53] <Daemoz> madpilot: TBScripter put his sources.list pastebin link in..
[09:53] <pd222> Hi I installed ubuntu right now, does automatix work on ubuntu 6.06
[09:53] <MorphDK> operative, i just apt-got it, can it be done in a better way?
[09:53] <operative> keitaro: depends how you set this wrapper up I guess. All I can tell you is that vmware will run with alsa "out of the box"
[09:53] <operative> \
[09:53] <Madpilot> Daemoz, thanks, missed it
[09:53] <Daemoz> madpilot: continue talking to me, because hes beside me
[09:53] <kholerabbi> pd222 I have never used automatix or anything similar, but most people will recommend you use EasyUbuntu instead.
[09:53] <BHSPitLappy> hey, was the broken X on the 6.06.1 CD release???
[09:54] <Madpilot> Daemoz, OK - was wondering where he'd gone
[09:54] <kholerabbi> Automatix apperantly stuffs up everyones computers :)
[09:54] <keitaro> operative: hmm. Well it works if im not playing any sound. The problem occurs when i have an mp3  playing on ubuntu, and try to play some sound on the VMwared OS
[09:54] <Madpilot> Daemoz, that sources.list is badly fubar'd - no wonder he's having issues
[09:54] <operative> MorphDK: it can always be done a better way, but rarely with such convienience. Mplayer is like the most stable media handler out there
[09:54] <pd222> ok kholerabbi will try easy ubuntu
[09:54] <Daemoz> Madpilot: can ya link the default one for me?
[09:54] <operative> keitaro: ah ok - google dmix
[09:54] <kholerabbi> pd222: ok
[09:54] <Madpilot> Daemoz, just hunting down the URL
[09:54] <TeePOG> Automatix worked like a charm for me
[09:55] <Madpilot> Daemoz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17674
[09:55] <Daemoz> ty
[09:55] <kholerabbi> TeePOG: I heard it works, but there are several things you have to avoid installing :).. but meh, I haven't tried it
[09:55] <pd222> TeePOG: which version of automatix did you use
[09:56] <pd222> can I get a howto link for easyubuntu
[09:56] <TeePOG> pd222: the Kubuntu-specific one, latest version that you get when you add the beerorkid repo in apt
[09:56] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:56] <kholerabbi> !easyubuntu
[09:56] <zsh> !sound
[09:56] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:56] <MorphDK> operative, it seemed pretty unstable to me, but that was one year ago.. i will try it again then :)
[09:56] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:56] <Crazed> Hi, is there something similar to HLSW for linux ?
[09:56] <pd222> !easyubuntu
[09:57] <kholerabbi> lol
[09:57] <operative> MorphDK: you should, its the daddy mate
[09:57] <some1> hey, can you use a DVD-R as a DVD-Audio?
[09:57] <TeePOG> anyway, easyubuntu's Java Runtime didn't work the first time, so I tried Automatix and it worked out-of-the-box
[09:58] <operative> keitaro: check out the output from ubotu on sound
[09:58] <Sp4rKy> my questions is maybe out of way, but i need help for share my aol connection over win XP (fam), because xp sharing doesn't works
[09:58] <keitaro> operative: hmm?
[09:58] <Daemoz> Coming from pure debian, I don't understand how ubuntu can get much easier xD
[09:58] <Sp4rKy> if someone have any idea ...
[09:58] <operative> !sound
[09:58] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:58] <operative> sorry for sounds spam all
[09:58] <some1> hey, can you use a DVD-R as a DVD-Audio?
[09:59] <meathead_> yes
[09:59] <kholerabbi> some1: whats a dvd audio?
[09:59] <meathead_> but the dvd-audio discs have better quality, read about it on wikipedia
[10:00] <Daemoz> I was just thinking of making the move from pure debian to ubuntu, I never really feel secure on pure deb as a desktop OS
[10:00] <keitaro> operative: hmm i dont have that option in dapper
[10:00] <daurnimator> hey
[10:00] <daurnimator> how do i setup perl to work with apache?
[10:04] <UpMarc> please, can someone tell me how to make a newly created Linux partition work?
[10:04] <kholerabbi> UpMarc: be more specific
[10:04] <kholerabbi> !specific
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specific - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <rob> install grub?
[10:04] <kholerabbi> aww
[10:05] <UpMarc> I created a new partition for Linux  to save my data...
[10:05] <Stargazers> So, is there anyone who can help me with image archiving programs? I mean, is there anything program like DigiKam which support IPTC?
[10:05] <UpMarc> but don't get to create a folder or move files into it
[10:05] <birdbrain> UpMarc:have u mounted it?
[10:05] <UpMarc> yes
[10:05] <rob> UpMarc: you need to mount it probably
[10:06] <UpMarc> i did it
[10:06] <rob> where did you mount it?
[10:06] <UpMarc> look my commands:
[10:06] <rob> don't paste too much :)
[10:06] <UpMarc> mkdir /home/marc/hda4
[10:06] <valehru> Can anyone recommend a nice IDE that works well with C++ in ubuntu?
[10:07] <Lukian> After updating Xorg to the latest version I receive the errors "No devices detected" and "No screens found"
[10:07] <birdbrain> UpMarc:is that it?
[10:07] <MorphDK> nothing happens when i press "play" in mplayer. the play button changes to a pause button, but that's it :/
[10:07] <Tonren> Hey guys, what's a good way to squeeze shorter boot time out of Dapper?
[10:07] <WarOfAttrition> does the latest Xorg have a different conf file setup or something?
[10:07] <matthew_w> I have a real problem; I just got some software upgrades and now X does not start.... it gives an error like " no screens found"   what does that mean?
[10:07] <rob> UpMarc: try sudo mount -t auto /dev/hd(somthing) /some/mount/point
[10:07] <birdbrain> UpMarc:what happens when you do ls -lah /home/marc/hda4
[10:07] <linav_> hi, i got this weird problem,  picture doesnt come when i play videos
[10:08] <linav_> sound is fine
[10:08] <WarOfAttrition> Tonren, maybe using InitNG
[10:08] <UpMarc> then mount /.../hda4 (someone taught me what is between /.../ and I cant remember now
[10:08] <Tonren> !InitNG
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about InitNG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <linav_> but no picuture at all. i tried in vlc, totem, mplayer
[10:08] <linav_> its all the same
[10:08] <linav_> any one know the reason?
[10:08] <aztracker1> anyone up for helping with something?  5 min... I tested it for myself, but would like to make sure it works for someone else..?
[10:08] <Flannel> Lukian, matthew_w, check the /topic
[10:08] <UpMarc> ok
[10:08] <UpMarc> rob: ok
[10:08] <coLD> khollerabb u still there?
[10:09] <aztracker1> http://www.theroughnecks.net/  need to create an account, then login, goto the games page, and launch "Legend of The Green Dragon"
[10:09] <birdbrain> UpMarc:can use post the output of the command: mount
[10:09] <Lukian> ty Flannel
[10:09] <linav_> any help guyz
[10:09] <Goshawk> Lukian: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:09] <kholerabbi> coLD: yep
[10:09] <kholerabbi> Did it work?
[10:09] <coLD> no
[10:09] <coLD> it said the site didnt exist
[10:09] <kholerabbi> what happened?
[10:10] <UpMarc> rob: message says that hda13 is already mounted
[10:10] <kholerabbi> Oh, hmm... did you put the underlines in
[10:10] <coLD> error 404 or whatever
[10:10] <coLD> i typerd it and re typed it
[10:10] <kholerabbi> ??
[10:10] <Tonren> WarOfAttrition: Any links to how-tos?
[10:10] <coLD> yeah i put the underlines in it
[10:10] <rob> UpMarc: so cd /that/dir and find out whats there
[10:10] <UpMarc> rob: message says that hda4 is already mounted
[10:10] <kholerabbi> When I did it I didn't relise there were underliens :( becuase of the link blueness
[10:10] <coLD> i dunno hthis iss totally bumming me out
[10:10] <heavydrinker> i seem to have lost my GUI
[10:10] <kholerabbi> hmm.. Do you have an active internet connection?
[10:10] <coLD> yeah i mean i did it with an without
[10:11] <Zerojakel> hello
[10:11] <coLD> yeah i assume so i am in windows right now i dual boot
[10:11] <coLD> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[10:11] <coLD> go there its not there
[10:11] <heavydrinker> after going thruogh it's boot routine Ubuntu gives me the following scary message  "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not
[10:11] <heavydrinker> set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[10:11] <UpMarc> rob: there is lost+found in there
[10:12] <coLD> heavydrinker i am working on the same problem as well
[10:12] <heavydrinker> i hope this is a common problem
[10:12] <kholerabbi> coLD OK, it isn't.. hmmm just a sec
[10:12] <coLD> there was an update made that made everyones xserver crash
[10:12] <UpMarc> and inside of it "Create new folder" is disabled
[10:12] <rob> UpMarc: then its mounted, congratulations
[10:12] <Minty64> can I install aotmatix en the 64bit version ??
[10:12] <Zerojakel> i have a problem with my firefox
[10:12] <UpMarc> rob: but I cant work on it...
[10:12] <rob> UpMarc: you probably don't have premissions, do an ls -la to find out who does
[10:12] <heavydrinker> i tried the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command
[10:13] <heavydrinker> after I pick the color depth in bits, it quits and gives me the following message:
[10:13] <heavydrinker> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file;
[10:13] <heavydrinker> backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...
[10:13] <MichelJ> Hi there.... After an update of the X-Server yesterday my X won't start... can anyobe help me out?
[10:13] <MatthewV> MichelJ, see /topic
[10:13] <MichelJ> o i see i am not the only one with this problem.....
[10:14] <birdbrain> x server problems on form are here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[10:14] <MatthewV> MichelJ, you could say that ;)
[10:14] <MichelJ> did the ubuntu team made a bloob...????
[10:14] <birdbrain> x server problems on forum are here:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[10:14] <coLD> yah its nuts
[10:14] <coLD> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[10:14] <Zerojakel> apt-get upgrade and ready
[10:14] <kholerabbi> Flannel: do you know how to fix that xserver bug, this url doesn't exist anymore: "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb"
[10:15] <UpMarc> rob: pls, where is the paste page for this ubuntu?
[10:15] <zsh> hey, synaptic wont reload the repos and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21453. can anyone help me out please?
[10:15] <UpMarc> rob: so that I can show you what is in there
[10:15] <rob> UpMarc: sudo mkdir somedirectory - on that partition
[10:15] <keitaro> Anyone using vmware to run windows XP and has audio working?
[10:15] <rob> tell me if that worked
[10:16] <kholerabbi> coLD: this is the new url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[10:16] <trygg> Can someone give me a quick tip on how to use file?
[10:16] <trygg> lets say i want to look after foo.so, how do i do it?
[10:16] <Vancouver_Rocks> i just instaled Ubuntu but internet isnt working..how can i configure?
[10:16] <TommyC> is it wireless?
[10:17] <Vancouver_Rocks> nah
[10:17] <Vancouver_Rocks> cable
[10:17] <kholerabbi> coLD: if you still need it: "wget  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb"
[10:17] <TommyC> i have wireless cable, i had to make it un-wireless for it to work
[10:17] <coLD> ok
[10:17] <POVaddct> trygg: do you mean file or find?
[10:17] <coLD> so its not 10.1 anymore
[10:17] <trygg> POVaddct: oh, find i meant.
[10:18] <linav_> TommyC: does ubuntu have problems with wireless cards
[10:18] <UpMarc> rob: "sudo mkdir /films /hda13" .... is it that?
[10:18] <TommyC> linav_: it did with me and all my friends who have wireless
[10:18] <kholerabbi> coLD: 10.4,
[10:18] <sioux> hi .-)
[10:18] <rob> UpMarc: no, "sudo mkdir /mount/point/something
[10:18] <linav_> TommyC: was thinking of gettting wireles card for my desktop
[10:18] <rob> without the "
[10:19] <POVaddct> trygg: find /lib -name "foo.so"    (this search starts in /lib, if you want to search the whole filesystem, use /)
[10:19] <linav_> TommyC: dont u recommend that
[10:19] <trygg> Oh, so its the '-name' i gotta use!
[10:19] <trygg> Oh, thanks!
[10:19] <heavydrinker> well, back to the ol' konsole for me....
[10:19] <TommyC> linav_: i dont mind wireless, but i normally use windows except for term papers and such
[10:19] <Vancouver_Rocks> i just instaled Ubuntu but internet isnt working..how can i configure?
[10:19] <POVaddct> trygg: you can also limit the search to regular files  (-type f)
[10:19] <TommyC> linav_: so i just connect a short ethernet when using ubuntu
[10:19] <POVaddct> trygg: or to directories only (-type d)
[10:20] <kholerabbi> Vancouver_Rocks: what type of internet do you have? Dialup or broadband?
[10:20] <linav_> TommyC: oh ok, thanls
[10:20] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks: if it is cable, i presume you have it plugged in via ethernet
[10:20] <Vancouver_Rocks> bband
[10:20] <zsh> hey, synaptic wont reload the repos and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21453. can anyone help me out please?
[10:20] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks: plugged in via ethernet?
[10:20] <Vancouver_Rocks> i have a wirless router..but pc conected through wire
[10:20] <kholerabbi> Vancouver_Rocks: Have you previously set up your internet modem? is it configured?
[10:20] <Vancouver_Rocks> yes i guess
[10:21] <Yuzuna> i installed Ubuntu desktop lastnight, and enabled remote desktop access, work fine with last night over my lan, i reboot today come to work and try and connect and cant, is the server restarted on reboot, or have i got a firewall/router issue anyone answer this little Q?
[10:21] <shinobi2> can iwlist list only the routers that have encryption-off ? i do "iwlist ath0 scan" and the list is very long
[10:21] <UpMarc> rob:  sudo mkdir /home/marc/hda13/films
[10:21] <trygg> POVaddct: great stuff, thanks.
[10:21] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to get Brightside working?
[10:21] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks: is it usb or ethernet?
[10:21] <UpMarc> rob: nothing happenned
[10:21] <Vancouver_Rocks> ethernert
[10:21] <kholerabbi> Vancouver_Rocks: add "Network Monitor" to your Gnome panel
[10:21] <POVaddct> trygg: for more info, read the find manpage
[10:21] <rob> UpMarc: is the mount point /home/mark/hda13 ?
[10:21] <wolfmanz> how do you get the spell checker to work in open office? I'm hitting f7 but i dont think its doing what it should do.
[10:21] <TommyC> is there some kind of off topic channel that is active?
[10:22] <sioux> hi I have 2 defective package how can I found it?
[10:22] <kholerabbi> TommyC: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:22] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks: what do you have listed under System->Administration->Network Settings
[10:22] <rob> UpMarc: try: cd /home/marc/hda13/films
[10:22] <Wibble-> hey... I can't read the launchpad.net article because links doesn't support https.  Can anyone tell me how to fix the xorg-server bug introduced by the recent upgrade?
[10:22] <rob> UpMarc: that should take you to that folder you made
[10:22] <TommyC> im tired and its late so good night everyone
[10:22] <kholerabbi> night
[10:23] <UpMarc> rob: yes... but it created the directory as sub folder of /home/mar/hda13.... and not inside the hda13 as I wanted
[10:23] <hawkaloogie> Wibble-, read the topic
[10:23] <Vancouver_Rocks> there is only networking and netwrokimng tools
[10:23] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:sorry, networking
[10:23] <rob> UpMarc: if that is your mount mount then it is actually on that partition
[10:23] <Wibble-> hawkaloogie: I can't read that article - X doesn't work so I can't use a normal browser, and links doesn't support https (and http redirects to the https)
[10:23] <rob> s/mount mount/mount point
[10:23] <UpMarc> rob: hda13 should allowme to create diretories inside it
[10:23] <Vancouver_Rocks> nothing accessible in box
[10:23] <Vancouver_Rocks> ops
[10:23] <kholerabbi> Wibble-: Yes, do this: Restart your computer, select the Recover mode in the GRUB menu. In the root command prompt that evntually loads type this (make sure you put the underlines in the url's in): "wget  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb"
[10:24] <Vancouver_Rocks> just modem connection
[10:24] <rob> UpMarc: in Linux you mount partitions to folders
[10:24] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:no ethernet?
[10:24] <Vancouver_Rocks> intreface pp0 in sot configures
[10:24] <Wibble-> kholerabbi: Thanks a lot!
[10:24] <Vancouver_Rocks> yes no ethernet
[10:24] <hawkaloogie> Wibble-, hi, i'm an idiot. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <kholerabbi> Wibble-: no problem :)
[10:24] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:blow
[10:24] <pontifex> quick question - what's the package name of the graphical installer found on a dapper live cd?
[10:25] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:in a terminal type ifconfig and see if eth0 or something come sup
[10:25] <Vancouver_Rocks> leme check
[10:25] <Wibble-> Thanks also hawkaloogie :)
[10:26] <tau> hello, I am trying to upgrade "at" from 3.1.9 to 3.1.10 but Synaptic is not showing the newer version, even though it has been sitting in the repository since 21 July.. I've tried downloading and installing the package manually but then it complains about needing a newer version of libc6, which Synaptic doesn't seem to know about either???  any ideas what's going on?  (and yes, I've pressed reload in synaptic, it doesn't help)
[10:26] <atm0sph> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 23 08:21:43 2006
[10:26] <Wibble-> hawkaloogie: I hadn't realised it was so simple :/  I wish I had thought of that - would have saved me asking! That worked perfectly.  Thanks a lot.
[10:26] <atm0sph> how do I get around that?
[10:26] <Lathiat> tau: sure 3.1.10 isnt from edgy?
[10:26] <UpMarc> rob: I cant paste anything inside it
[10:26] <tau> Lathiat: I don't know - how would I find that out?
[10:26] <Lathiat> i'll tell you
[10:26] <Lathiat> hang 5
[10:26] <lassegs> mornin'
[10:27] <hawkaloogie> Wibble-, i'm assuming more people aren't saying it because the repos weren't updated, but they all should be fine now (i hope)
[10:27] <Vancouver_Rocks> local loop back , up loop back running
[10:27] <atm0sph> does anyone know how to get around sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 23 08:21:43 2006
[10:27] <atm0sph>  ???
[10:27] <atm0sph> I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf
[10:27] <Lathiat> yeh 3.1.10 is in edgy
[10:27] <Lathiat> you wont be able to install that in dapper
[10:27] <Lathiat> do you really need the new version?
[10:27] <tau> how do you know it's from edgy?
[10:27] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:okay, it looks like it has not detected your ethernet card, r u on a laptop?
[10:27] <Lathiat> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=at&searchon=sourcenames&version=all&release=all
[10:27] <tau> it has the same ubuntu3 package name
[10:27] <Vancouver_Rocks> yes right now
[10:28] <david_> hi
[10:28] <UpMarc> rob: I dont get to paste anything neither into /hda13 nor into /home/marc/hda13/films
[10:28] <sioux> :-( People when I run synaptic it says that I have 2 defective packets that should be located by defectvie filters but it nod find anything what can I do?
[10:28] <trygg> Why is it that when i click on "get flash player blabla" i only get version7 and almost every site complains about version8? (opera)
[10:28] <tau> Lathiat: gee, that's confusing!
[10:28] <Vancouver_Rocks> yes i guess during installation it didnt detect mmy ethernet
[10:29] <david_> help how can i install wine
[10:29] <Lathiat> tau: where did you get the idea to upgrade to 3.1.10 in the first place?
[10:29] <atm0sph> trygg, : they haven't made a newer flash for linux yet
[10:29] <trygg> So its unviewable?
[10:29] <atm0sph> for now
[10:29] <Lathiat> trygg: yeh unfortunately macromedia havent released a newer version
[10:29] <trygg> Darn it.
[10:29] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:I can probably only offer basic help and tips from here on, firstly it may not be a supported card. Secondly it may need you to load a module into your kernel to get it working. You need to find out what sort of network card it is so I would run lspci -v and look for your ethernet card details and then google for help
[10:29] <Lathiat> theyre working on flash9 now
[10:29] <Lathiat> no idea when it'l be out
[10:29] <tau> Lathiat: I was trying to fix the bug when you run atrm, and it says it can't find the jobid, even though it does delete it, and after searching for a fix, they said it was fixed in 3.1.10
[10:30] <Lathiat> tau: ah ok, yeh, it is, but unfortunately its not available
[10:30] <Vancouver_Rocks> let me check my ethernet card
[10:30] <tau> Lathiat: so it's not that important I guess, I suppose I'll have to wait until edgy, unless there is a backport available :(
[10:30] <Lathiat> tau: no backport available atm
[10:30] <Lathiat> you could file a bug requesting one
[10:30] <sioux> :-) people how can I fix defective packets. synaptic informe that I have 2 defective packets Thank you
[10:30] <tau> Lathiat: ok, thanks for your help
[10:30] <Lathiat> altho the backports process is inoperative atm i think
[10:30] <Lathiat> tau: nps
[10:31] <Jaggz-> can I look at my other computer's evolution calendar for an appointment I added?  (from remote.. I'm not at that computer)
[10:31] <Jaggz-> from shell or even gui
[10:31] <bambi^> Hi. I just installed Diablo using Wine and now i want to add some files to the c:\Program files\Diablo but i cant find it
[10:31] <UpMarc> rob: I think I know why.... it's a NTFS format...
[10:31] <Vancouver_Rocks> its SMC
[10:32] <Vancouver_Rocks> i guess its maker
[10:32] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:Yeah, this is the hard part, what is the laptop make and model
[10:32] <Vancouver_Rocks> problem is with my desktop
[10:32] <Vancouver_Rocks> im on frm my laptop..
[10:33] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:okay
[10:33] <H2> bambi^, I think you'll find that in ~/.wine
[10:33] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:have you got any extra details about your network card, make/model etc
[10:34] <Vancouver_Rocks> SMC1660T
[10:34] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:thanks
[10:34] <Vancouver_Rocks> ur welcome
[10:34] <Landy> how can i install/configer wine in brezy
[10:34] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:ill google, give me a bit
[10:34] <Landy> k
[10:34] <Vancouver_Rocks> sure
[10:34] <Daemoz> Opera 12 is going to require a resolution of 1280x1024; it will contain a 1280x1000 ad.
[10:34] <Daemoz> leaving you 24 pixels of vertical space for internet browsing
[10:35] <wozniak> birdbrain: here?
[10:35] <birdbrain> wozniak:yep
[10:36] <fyyrest0rm> Hey guys..bit of a problem here..technically samba/kubuntu but hoping someone here can help?
[10:36] <birdbrain> wozniak:how did u go
[10:36] <rast4> I dual boot with XP and Ubuntu, my XP install got corrupted so I formatted the partition and it wiped Grub so I can't boot into Ubuntu. Is there an easy way I can reinstall it from the Live CD?
[10:36] <Daemoz> So guys, i just got back from AOL, and boy are my packets tired
[10:36] <Daemoz> .....
[10:36] <rast4> ba dum dum pssh!
[10:36] <Daemoz> Tough Crowd
[10:36] <MatthewV> Daemoz, for chat please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:37] <Daemoz> =[
[10:37] <wozniak> birdbrain: ran the test, passed once, no errors
[10:37] <MatthewV> Daemoz, no problem or anything, but this is a support channel :)
[10:37] <jonlg> hello
[10:37] <mssever> Hi
[10:37] <jonlg> 1st timer here
[10:38] <MatthewV> jonlg, welcome :)
[10:38] <rast4> so Grub reinstallation help anyone?
[10:38] <mssever> me too...never used IRC before
[10:38] <MatthewV> rast4, what's the exact problem?
[10:38] <keitaro> rest4: google super grub
[10:38] <keitaro> it worked fo rme
[10:38] <rast4> MatthewV: I dual boot with XP, XP got trashed, I formatted that partition, that rewrote the MBR and now can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:38] <birdbrain> wozniak:well that means that it is unlikely to be memory :) does this happen with other applications?
[10:38] <rast4> keitaro: you had the same thing happen?
[10:39] <jonlg> I need help with installation of Ubuntu on a laptop please???
[10:39] <fyyrest0rm> anyone able to help me get my samba set right so the xp boxes can actually access my shares without getting a permission denied error?
[10:39] <mssever> jonig: what kind of help?
[10:39] <keitaro> rest4: yea, supergrub is nice and easy too, just reinstalls grub into the MBR for you
[10:39] <rast4> beautiful. Thanks
[10:39] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:it looks like it is an old network card, what are the odds of getting one that is supported by linux and sticking it in?
[10:39] <heavydrinker> can i have that xserver link that went through the channel a moment ago, i forgot to bookmark it
[10:39] <wozniak> birdbrain:it has happened before during "get mail" in evolution-mail, and upin recieving messages in gaim
[10:39] <rast4> and thanks MatthewV for the interest in helping
[10:39] <arooni> hey folks
[10:39] <keitaro> np :)
[10:39] <MatthewV> rast4, there are a number of guides on wiki.ubuntu.com , i suggest you look at them.. but basically I would boot into the live cd, the mount your ubuntu partition and chroot into it, and then reinstall grub
[10:39] <arooni> how do you do rm -r and tell it not to warn you about read only files
[10:39] <arooni> etc../
[10:40] <Vancouver_Rocks> which one u recomend?
[10:40] <mssever> do rm -rf
[10:40] <rast4> that's also a good idea
[10:40] <rast4> keitaro: which would you say is easier?
[10:40] <MatthewV> rast4, i can walk you through that if you want... its what i usually do for grub
[10:40] <keitaro> anyone know of a way to have windows on vmware be able to play sound along with the host machine at the same time? I always get /dev/dsp busy if i play a sound in vmware while playing an mp3 on the host machine
[10:40] <keitaro> rest4: well supergrub i think is easier, but more of a hassle. the live cd approach is a lot faster since its already burned, but u gotta kno what ur doing
[10:41] <rast4> ok I'll try the cd approach
[10:41] <rast4> MatthewV: Yes please walk me through it. I'll boot off the cd, one moment please
[10:41] <MatthewV> rast4, no problems...
[10:41] <mssever> My first time on IRC...got a message saying that my nick wasn't registered. How do I register it?
[10:41] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:not sure, I live in Aus, so probably won't have the same brands. Certain D-Link cards work, in fact there shouldn't be a huge problem getting one. Checkout www.eyo.com.au and look under hardware, they sell linux compatiable hardware in Australia, might give you a start into finding one in Canada
[10:42] <fyyrest0rm> mssever: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[10:42] <MatthewV> mssever, see freenode.net for full instructions
[10:42] <birdbrain> wozniak:im a bit baffled by this one. what sort of laptop/desktop is it?
[10:43] <magus_x> i got some weird problems, my CUPS does not work anymore
[10:43] <wozniak> birdbrain: ibm thinkpad x31
[10:43] <Vancouver_Rocks> i have a spare card too  linksys lne100tx
[10:43] <coLD> khollerabbi u still htere?
[10:43] <mssever> fyyrest0rm: thanks
[10:43] <kholerabbi> coLD yup
[10:43] <Vancouver_Rocks> can it help?
[10:43] <coLD> ok i did  what u said
[10:43] <rast4> MatthewV: Just to make sure, just boot off the cd and select "Start or install Ubuntu"?
[10:43] <kholerabbi> and it didn't work?
[10:43] <coLD> and it all downloaded and what not
[10:43] <mssever> magus: what is/isn't CUPS doing
[10:43] <MatthewV> rast4, yep :) just start it like you did when you installed
[10:43] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:sounds good, ill check
[10:43] <rast4> gotcha
[10:43] <Vancouver_Rocks> gr8, thx
[10:44] <magus_x> mssever, : i am getting this on log
[10:44] <magus_x> I [23/Aug/2006:05:35:45 -0300]  Full reload is required.
[10:44] <magus_x> E [23/Aug/2006:05:35:45 -0300]  LoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf - Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[10:44] <magus_x> W [23/Aug/2006:05:36:15 -0300]  LoadDevices: Backend did not respond within 30 seconds!
[10:44] <magus_x> I [23/Aug/2006:05:38:55 -0300]  LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 4104 PPDs...
[10:44] <magus_x> I [23/Aug/2006:05:38:55 -0300]  LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs...
[10:44] <coLD> i looked in my logs and now i am getting this error
[10:44] <magus_x> I [23/Aug/2006:05:38:55 -0300]  Full reload complete.
[10:44] <coLD> WW) ATI:  PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
[10:44] <coLD>   (WW) ATI:  PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:1 could not be detected!
[10:44] <coLD>   (EE) No devices detected.
[10:44] <magus_x> E [23/Aug/2006:05:38:55 -0300]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - No foi possvel acessar o endereo requisitado.
[10:44] <trygg> Heh, just a quick offtopic question, are there any macosx-like docker for gnome? (that doesnt have to have the half kde-packages)
[10:44] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:yeah, seems to be supported, give it a whirl
[10:44] <coLD> u get all that khollerabbi
[10:44] <kholerabbi> coLD: does ubuntu xserver start though?
[10:44] <magus_x> mssever, : and when i try to access the printers menu,i get the error: cups server cannot be contacted, something like it
[10:44] <Vancouver_Rocks> lete me plug it in juz a min
[10:44] <MatthewV> magus_x, see below
[10:44] <MatthewV> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:44] <coLD> no gui it stops with that blue screen
[10:45] <birdbrain> Vancouver_Rocks:no problem
[10:45] <coLD> asks me if i want to see the log
[10:45] <heavydrinker> i get a 404 error when i try to fix xserver with the "wget -c http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb" command, am i just mistyping?
[10:45] <Daemoz> like a version, wooo, ctcp'd for the very first time
[10:45] <coLD> mistyping
[10:45] <kholerabbi> coLD: damn
[10:45] <mssever> magus: not sure...especially since I don't know Portugues :(
[10:45] <coLD> could this part be mis configured vid card?
[10:45] <MatthewV> rast4, once you reach the desktop, you can start a terminal (Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal)
[10:45] <birdbrain> wozniak:have you tried another browser
[10:46] <magus_x> arquivo ou diretorio nao encontrado -> file or directory not found
[10:46] <mssever> magus: It's apparently not starting for some reason
[10:46] <rast4> ok just about there
[10:46] <birdbrain> wozniak:for instance opera
[10:46] <kholerabbi> coLD: Sorry, I don't know :(
[10:46] <rast4> got the cool music
[10:46] <rast4> all I love that music
[10:46] <rast4> all/ahh*
[10:46] <coLD> whats the command to do the automated configureation program?
[10:46] <wozniak> birdbrain: i tried installing another browser, it froze on that as well
[10:46] <kholerabbi> coLD: Could you install dapper again?
[10:46] <magus_x> No foi possvel acessar o endereo requisitado. -> was not possible access the address needed
[10:46] <Flannel> trygg: http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[10:46] <i\o> Hello, I'm trying to install something and it says that it depends on libc6 >= 2.3.6-6 but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed, how can I overcome this?
[10:46] <coLD> the one where u picke ur keyboard and stuff
[10:46] <rast4> matthewV: Terminal open
[10:46] <birdbrain> wozniak:how was your experience on windows? any problems?
[10:47] <rast4> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:47] <wozniak> birdbrain: windows?
[10:47] <atm0sph> Would anyone know why my GAIM Crashes right after MSN Connects?
[10:47] <birdbrain> wozniak:no???
[10:47] <mssever> magus: hmm...
[10:47] <wozniak> birdbrain: you mean the operating system?
[10:47] <trygg> Flannel: thats just gnome-panel. ;)
[10:47] <Flannel> i\o: The ubuntu version should satisfy it
[10:47] <birdbrain> wozniak:yeah, sorry
[10:47] <wozniak> birdbrain:i use windows on my desktop
[10:47] <kholerabbi> coLD: not sure
[10:47] <wozniak> birdbrain: which is in a box right now
[10:47] <magus_x> mssever, : another weird problem
[10:47] <i\o> Flannel, but it doesnt let me install
[10:47] <birdbrain> wozniak:okay
[10:47] <Vancouver_Rocks> replaced the ethernet
[10:48] <MatthewV> rast4, create a new folder to mount your ubuntu partition to: 'sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu'
[10:48] <birdbrain> wozniak:does this problem happen every time or only periodically?
[10:48] <rast4> matthewv: done
[10:48] <wozniak> birdbrain: starting after i fixed the X, every time
[10:48] <MatthewV> rast4, then mount your ubuntu partition, using the command 'mount -t auto <ubuntu_partition> /media/ubuntu'
[10:48] <mssever> magus: I'm not much of a CUPS expert...Is this a local or network printer you're trying to access?
[10:48] <rwscold> khollerabbi u get my pms?
[10:48] <Vancouver_Rocks> and its howing up in networking now
[10:49] <magus_x> mssever, : no, the problem is opening the application to see what printers i go
[10:49] <magus_x> t
[10:49] <birdbrain> wozniak:so before you fixed the X there was no problem?
[10:49] <mssever> magus: can you print normally?
[10:49] <rast4> should I do a 'df' to see which partition it is for the <ubuntu_partition>
[10:49] <wozniak> birdbrain: bofore i fixed X it happened only occasionally
[10:50] <i\o> Flannel, any way to force it through with llike a --nodeps or something?
[10:50] <rwscold> anyone know the commands to bring the configuration program where u choose video and keyboard options
[10:50] <MatthewV> rast4, where <ubuntu_partition> is something like /dev/hda1 (that'd be first hdd, first partition) you can see all your partitions with 'fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[10:50] <mssever> magus: what happens if you point a web browser at http://localhost:631
[10:50] <rast4> wamatthewv: says cannot open /dev/hda
[10:51] <MatthewV> rast4, prefix the command with a sudo
[10:51] <rwscold> anyone know the commands to bring the configuration program where u choose video and keyboard options
[10:51] <PPower> Hi!
[10:51] <Vancouver_Rocks> its working now
[10:51] <MatthewV> rwscold, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:51] <PPower> Goshawk: I found the problem with VNC yesterday
[10:51] <Vancouver_Rocks> thanks for ur help bird..gr8
[10:51] <birdbrain> wozniak:are you running the ati 3d drivers?
[10:51] <rwscold> ya thats the one
[10:51] <Goshawk> hi PPower
[10:51] <Goshawk> PPower: what was it?
[10:51] <Crazed> bleh
[10:51] <rast4> matthewv: should be the Linux partition right, if so it would be /dev/hda7
[10:52] <Crazed> why cant I change any settings in nvidia-settings
[10:52] <PPower> Goshawk: You needed :1 at the end of the IP, Ill boot up the VM so you can test
[10:52] <wozniak> birdbrain: no idea
[10:52] <Crazed> there is nothing to change there ..
[10:52] <wozniak> birdbrain: let me check?
[10:52] <MatthewV> rast4, if that's the only linux partition, yes... once its mounted you can check to see if it was the correct one
[10:52] <Crazed> does anyone know why ?
[10:52] <Goshawk> PPower: ok, it that image running your kernel?
[10:52] <mssever> magus_x: are you still there?
[10:52] <PPower> Goshawk: The image is running ubuntu, with bochs/qemu inside it
[10:53] <rast4> matthewv: ok
[10:53] <Crazed> no one here who knows a solution ?
[10:53] <wozniak> birdbrain: how do i check for that
[10:53] <PPower> Goshawk: Still have the IP etc?
[10:53] <Goshawk> PPower: no
[10:53] <PPower> ah
[10:53] <Goshawk> PPower: send them again
[10:53] <rast4> matthewv: looks like it worked
[10:53] <Goshawk> PPower: i thought you have a dynamic ip
[10:53] <i\o> where can I find the latest versions of libc6, libcurl3, and libssl?
[10:54] <Goshawk> i\o: edgy or dapper version?
[10:54] <i\o> dapper
[10:54] <PPower> Goshawk: Kinda, its NTL so sometimes they do, sometimes they dont
[10:54] <Goshawk> they are in the repo
[10:54] <MatthewV> rast4, ok, then a 'ls /media/ubuntu' should show your linux partition? you'll see /bin and /boot and /home and /usr and heaps of others..
[10:54] <Goshawk> just open synaptic
[10:54] <Crazed> pff
[10:54] <i\o> Goshawk, nah.. it's not the newest version
[10:54] <Goshawk> i\o: and look for libc6
[10:54] <Crazed> ppl ignoring here ? :p
[10:54] <rast4> matthewv: yes sir
[10:55] <Goshawk> i\o: that's your version?
[10:55] <MatthewV> rast4, ok... then do this command: 'sudo chroot /media/ubuntu'
[10:55] <PPower> Goshawk: I just need to ajust the VNC setup
[10:55] <birdbrain> wozniak:I don't think they would be installed, you have to manually install them
[10:55] <Goshawk> PPower: ok
[10:55] <rast4> matthewv: done
[10:55] <i\o> Goshawk, libc6 is at 2.3.6-0unbutu20 and I need 2.3.6-6, libcurl is at 7.15.1-1unbutu2 and I need 7.15.4-1, and so on
[10:55] <wozniak> birdbrain: thats one mroe thing i dont know how to do
[10:55] <MatthewV> rast4, then running 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda' should reinstall grub...
[10:56] <Goshawk> i\o: they are the lastest version in dapper
[10:56] <Goshawk> i\o: newest are in edgy
[10:56] <Crazed> MatthewV: do you know anything about nvidia-settings
[10:56] <Goshawk> i\o: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:56] <birdbrain> wozniak:no big deal, i didn't until I looked it up on the forums
[10:56] <MatthewV> rast4, so if that command doesn't give an error.... you should be all set...
[10:56] <MatthewV> Crazed, no... not really... what's the problem?
[10:56] <Crazed> there are no settings in it :P
[10:57] <wozniak> birdbrain: yeah it sucks that i cant get to the forums for this stuff
[10:57] <Crazed> so I cant change anything ..
[10:57] <Goshawk> i\o: you can update to edgy, or just download the libc6 etc packages from that site and install with dpkg -i file.dev
[10:57] <Goshawk> s/dev/deb
[10:57] <rast4> matthewv: ok great, I went back and wrote all this down just in case, here we go
[10:57] <birdbrain> wozniak:yeah, of course, it would
[10:57] <i\o> Goshawk, there's no way to bring them up?
[10:57] <i\o> Goshawk, thanks
[10:57] <Goshawk> PPower: :D
[10:57] <i\o> Goshawk, guess i'll just update.  Is it just as easy as changing dapper to edgy in my source.list?
[10:58] <birdbrain> wozniak:do sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:58] <MatthewV> rast4 so just shut down, remove cd... and :)
[10:58] <rast4> matthewv: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:58] <PPower> Goshawk: When you are in, cd to popcorn-os, type make btest and enter meowmix when prompted, then you can test it out
[10:58] <Goshawk> i\o: yep but edgy is not completed yet
[10:58] <Goshawk> i\o: it can break your system
[10:58] <i\o> Goshawk, thats cool thanks!
[10:58] <MatthewV> rast4, yep... ignore that...
[10:58] <Healot> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:58] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-3 (dapper), package size 10309 kB, installed size 29468 kB
[10:58] <rast4> matthewv: reboot?
[10:58] <dadadu59> bonjour tout le monde
[10:58] <birdbrain> wozniak:the other possiblity is to downgrade xorg to a lower version and see if it makes it a bit better
[10:59] <MatthewV> rast4, if you can... if you've run all commands... then just shutdown or reboot normally from the gnome menus
[10:59] <PPower> Goshawk: The popcorn IRC is #popcorn
[10:59] <wozniak> ill try the first one first
[10:59] <Goshawk> i\o: if you wanna upgrade, change dapper in edgy in sources.list and then run synaptic, update the cache and upgrade
[10:59] <Goshawk> PPower: :D
[10:59] <MatthewV> Crazed, what exactly do you mean by nvidia-settings
[10:59] <rast4> matthewv: ok fingers crossed (not that I don't trust you, it's me..hehe)
[10:59] <MatthewV> rast4, don't worry, nobody trusts me ;)
[10:59] <birdbrain> wozniak:yeah hang on, only do that if you really can work on the cmd line to fix problems
[10:59] <RainCT> How can I delete that filename~ files that are generated every time I modify one file (I mean delete them all at once or disable their creation)?
[10:59] <MatthewV> rast4, the worst we can do is bork the ubuntu install... no hardware damage ;)
[10:59] <rast4> matthewv: hehe people don't trust me with guns or knives in my hands, go figure...
[10:59] <i\o> Goshawk, thanks very much :-)
[11:00] <birdbrain> wozniak:sorry, i just realised that it does not always go smoothly and you may not have a backup computer
[11:00] <AqD> hi all!
[11:00] <rast4> matthewv: yeah no prob, my Samba won't work anyways, so if worse case scenario i can start over I guess
[11:00] <wozniak> birdbrain: yeah this is what i have for now
[11:00] <Goshawk> i\o: if you need help with edgy then, go to #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <Goshawk> i\o: you are welcome
[11:00] <birdbrain> wozniak:the safer option would be to downgrade xorg-server and see if it helps
[11:00] <Crazed> nm
[11:00] <AqD> I made mac-style menubar for gtk and java, is there any place for me to post the details?
[11:00] <wozniak> birdbrain: ok
[11:00] <Crazed> MatthewV: it has something to do with glx and compiz .. :)
[11:00] <Goshawk> PPower: i'm trying to connect
[11:00] <AqD> i tried the HOWTO forum but it seems to be rejected
[11:01] <wozniak> birdbrain: dont know how to do that either, surprisingly
[11:01] <AqD> anyone can help me??
[11:01] <Crazed> think I will be removing glx untill its bug free
[11:01] <PPower> Goshawk: Ok
[11:01] <AqD> where should i post it?
[11:01] <rast4> matthewv: no grub menu, boots straight to XP
[11:01] <birdbrain> wozniak:just checking it myself
[11:01] <MatthewV> Crazed, I'm sorry then.. cause that ain't my area of expertise.. i originally thought you were referring to some xconfig problem...
[11:01] <michael__> AqD - ubuntu forums?
[11:01] <AqD> michael__: yes
[11:01] <wozniak> birdbrain:thanks
[11:01] <AqD> i dont see general discussion for desktop...
[11:01] <MatthewV> rast4, hmm... ok, when you ran the grub-install command, what output did you get? can you remember...
[11:01] <birdbrain> wozniak:np
[11:01] <AqD> btw the origianl post to arch is here => http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=24289
[11:01] <rast4> matthewv: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[11:02] <AqD> the patch should work for ubuntu as well
[11:02] <Crazed> well I get this ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[11:02] <puk_> ques... i need a SMP kernel (wonder why it didn't install it by default too..) anyways, just curious, what's the difference between the normal P-IV/III/II smp kernel and the one marked as server? is it a driver thing or does it have to do with the oprofiler and the other timers?
[11:02] <Lathiat> rast4: did you change yoru /etc/hostname?
[11:02] <Lathiat> rast4: if you do that you need to change /etc/hosts too
[11:02] <Crazed> when I try to run nvidia-settings :)
[11:02] <Lathiat> rast4: you could fix that by booting into recovery mode (hit esc at the grub menu)
[11:02] <rast4> Lathiat: I had to format my XP partition and it wrote a new MBR
[11:02] <MichelJ> Thanx guys
[11:02] <Tonren> How do I test to see if I have successfully installed Xgl support for my drivers?
[11:02] <MatthewV> rast4, oh sorry... i misunderstood that... i would run the same process again (sorry) but run the grub-install command without sudo.. that might work
[11:02] <MichelJ> my Ubuntubox is up and running agian!
[11:02] <pd222> I am installing applications via easy ubuntu. During the applying stage I can see the warning  Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54, <> line 5. . Is this serious
[11:03] <Lathiat> pd222: You can probably safely ignore that
[11:03] <rast4> matthewv: type everything again?
[11:03] <pd222> thanks Lathiat
[11:03] <AqD> ah
[11:03] <rast4> matthewv: all comamnds from the original mount -t?
[11:03] <MatthewV> rast4, if that error continues to persist it could be more difficult, i had that a while ago.. and i can't remember exactly how i fixed it
[11:03] <AqD> anyone can help??
[11:03] <gilianima> Is it possible to choose another language thatn the system language for Evolution ?
[11:03] <MatthewV> rast4, yep... sorry again.. i should have read more carefully
[11:03] <rast4> no prob, trial and error ;)
[11:04] <puk_> ques... i need a SMP kernel (wonder why it didn't install it by default too..) anyways, just curious, what's the difference between the normal P-IV/III/II smp kernel and the one marked as server? is it a driver thing or does it have to do with the oprofiler and the other timers?
[11:04] <AqD> hmmm
[11:05] <puk_> AqD: looking at your post, desktop looks nice, know **** about theming tho' :D
[11:05] <michael__> why not post in How tos?
[11:05] <birdbrain> wozniak:sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 will downgrade the package?
[11:05] <AqD> michael__: i posted
[11:05] <Goshawk> if i'm logged in a server and another user is logged too (different pst) can i send a message to the other user?
[11:05] <AqD> it told me to wait for moderator.. but it's half of a day from now
[11:06] <wozniak> birdbrain: safe in your opinion?
[11:06] <michael__> oh ...sry
[11:07] <michael__> seems like the best place to me
[11:07] <zsh> !sound
[11:07] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:08] <birdbrain> wozniak:not full proof, but if you were running ubuntu before with that version and you didn't have problems, then it is unlikely that it would cause problems, but of course if that is your only computer then you may want to have some command like backup utilities installed before you do it. My advise is to have a command line irc program installed, (should be already) and then also to have elinks or links2 text web browsers installed
[11:08] <birdbrain> (they can be a life saver)
[11:11] <rast4> I'm getting some weird errors now
[11:11] <MatthewV> rast4, oh no.... what are they? ;)
[11:12] <rast4> [: /sbin/udevd: uknown operand kill: could not kill pid 3677: no such process
[11:12] <rast4> then INIT ID2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minuites
[11:12] <rast4> then INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
[11:12] <MatthewV> rast4, when does this happen?
[11:13] <rast4> this is just off a reboot off the cd after splashy
[11:13] <MatthewV> rast4, so its before you do anything.. just booting off the cd?
[11:13] <rast4> thnk the install is hosed?
[11:13] <rast4> yea, before getting to desktop
[11:13] <zsh> !hardware detection
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardware detection - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <MatthewV> rast4, if thats just booting off cd... then i would say restart and try to boot again...
[11:14] <zsh> !hardware
[11:14] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:14] <rast4> I did twice, but I'll shut it down and try again
[11:14] <MatthewV> rast4, if the same error comes again.. i don't know, cause the cd was working properly earlier
[11:14] <rast4> yeah this is weird
[11:14] <rast4> says this too
[11:14] <sotarn> Anyone with an alsa driver wish to provide me with some feedback on a bashscript which switches default soundcard? (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=508C4BF72DD74882)
[11:15] <GigaByte_> 
[11:15] <GigaByte_> hi
[11:15] <rast4> PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6 20000@f8000000 for 0000:01:00.0 readlink: /proc/3677/exe: no such file or directory
[11:15] <neil___> I remember a long time ago there where apps for computers that turned an ordinary keyboard into a musical keyboard where if you pressed a key (e.g. A) you got a note.  Is there one of these for Linux?
[11:15] <GigaByte_> i'm programing with c
[11:16] <rast4> neil__: MIDI emulator I thnk you are referring to
[11:16] <MatthewV> rast4, that should have nothing to do with your install... as it is just when booting off the live cd.. but I don't know how to fix them...
[11:16] <Dimensions> hii how can i access CRON in GUI ?
[11:16] <rast4> I have no idea if one is available for *nix
[11:16] <GigaByte_> i'm writed the unix networkprograming
[11:16] <zsh> dapper wont recognise my sound card yet it was working perfectly in breezy....anyone know what the problem is???
[11:16] <MatthewV> so your install may be safe, but you'll need to find a diff way to reinstall grub... i would check the wiki
[11:16] <rast4> matthewv: apparently it's been 5 minutes, and it just spewed the same thing say respawning for 5 minutes
[11:17] <rast4> I thnk it's possessed
[11:17] <neil___> Dimensions: have you had a look at webmin I think it can
[11:17] <GigaByte_> what is need package of the network api ?
[11:17] <MatthewV> rast4, and rebooting makes no diff?
[11:17] <Dimensions> GigaByte_:  what is webmin ?
[11:17] <rast4> matthewv: does the same thing sadly
[11:17] <GigaByte_> Dimensions: no.
[11:18] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm trying to install the open source version of Quasar accountint and I had to install and bunch of libraries for ./configure to finally work but now when I run make, I get g++ compiler errors
[11:18] <GigaByte_> Dimensions: C
[11:18] <rast4> matthewv: just shut down completely, going to try again
[11:18] <MatthewV> rast4, don't know.. i would say the cd is wrecked, but it was working earlier...
[11:18] <bhrobinson> stupid question... how can I remove the gnome games
[11:18] <bhrobinson> ?
[11:18] <RamiKassab> that can't be for officially released software can it? is there something I'm doing wrong?
[11:18] <rast4> matthewv: no biggy, if I can't get it to cooperate off a reboot, well wait, if I can't get it to reboot, how am I going to reinstall ;\
[11:19] <MatthewV> rast4, not easily.. do you have another live cd you could try?
[11:19] <rast4> I can just re-download one
[11:19] <rast4> no biggy
[11:19] <MatthewV> bhrobinson, removing the gnome-games package...
[11:19] <MatthewV> eg sudo apt-get remove gnome-games
[11:19] <GigaByte_> Dimensions: i need package what is unix network api pacakge
[11:20] <GigaByte_> Dimensions: what is the package?
[11:20] <zsh> i just checked on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards and my card is listed to work with hoary/breezy. does that mean i cant get it to work on dapper
[11:20] <AqD> done, posted here => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242042
[11:20] <bhrobinson> it says that it has to remove the gnome-desktop
[11:20] <Dimensions> GigaByte_:  i was asking how can i access cron via GUI in drapper
[11:20] <AqD> thx every1, bye :)
[11:21] <MatthewV> bhrobinson, gnome-desktop would just be a meta-package... meaning that it will just drag other packages in with it... so if it is removed thats no problem
[11:21] <wozniak> birdbrain: still here?
[11:21] <bhrobinson> ok, cool
[11:21] <bhrobinson> thanks
[11:21] <GigaByte_> Dimensions: Lan cable used
[11:21] <birdbrain> wozniak:yep :)
[11:21] <rast4> matthewv: back into desktop, here we go again
[11:21] <wozniak> birdbrain: i loaded the older version
[11:21] <rast4> it just didn't like something
[11:21] <MatthewV> rast4, :)
[11:21] <birdbrain> wozniak:any difference?
[11:21] <wozniak> birdbrain: firefox still causes the system to freeze, but i was able to install another browser
[11:22] <zsh> anyone???
[11:22] <neil___> Dimensions: webmin (a way of administrating you system with a browser) can manipulate how cron works.
[11:22] <birdbrain> wozniak:and that browser worked?
[11:22] <dlok> Hi.. can anyone help me with this problem I'm getting.. when loading X server, I get fatal server error no screens found... I ran dpkg-reconfigure xconfig-xorg and even changed he Ati video card to a Nvidia card and reconfiguerd again.. but still get the same message
[11:22] <wozniak> birdbrain: it seems to
[11:22] <Dimensions> neil___:  how can i access webmin
[11:22] <MatthewV> dlok, see !topic
[11:22] <MatthewV> dlok, see /topic that is
[11:22] <dlok> !topic
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <magus_x> hey, i got some problems with sudo here
[11:22] <wozniak> birdbrain: i wonder why it is only firefox?
[11:23] <magus_x> a lot of programs are not starting with sudo, like gedit, i dont know what happened
[11:23] <neil___> Dimensions: you need to install it.  then you can access it with the URL "http://localhost:10000"
[11:23] <dlok> oh.. sorry
[11:23] <magus_x> i think something messed up with sudo config
[11:23] <dlok> thanks
[11:23] <MatthewV> dlok, no, my mistake
[11:24] <Tonren> I just failed at XGL/Compiz.  :\
[11:24] <birdbrain> wozniak:it seems likely that there might be some display problem that firefox triggers. Oneday it might be worth trying the binary drivers from ati, just getting the details now
[11:25] <SKossu> Hello, how can I change what driver my wifi is using?
[11:25] <birdbrain> wozniak:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:25] <SKossu> wlan*
[11:25] <magus_x> hello
[11:25] <wozniak> birdbrain: it is 5:30am here; when everyone else wakes up I can get more help with that. for now at least I have a browser that works. thanks!
[11:25] <magus_x> i need help, i think i got the problem but i dont know what i should do to solve
[11:26] <magus_x> programs who need sudo, take years to start, my sudo config probably is messed up
[11:26] <magus_x> i dont know what to do to reset it
[11:26] <birdbrain> wozniak:no problem, i am about to go and get some tea :) r u in the uS
[11:26] <rast4> matthewv: ok without the 'sudo' for grub-install /dev/hda I get permission denied
[11:26] <wozniak> birdbrain: yes
[11:26] <MatthewV> rast4, oh... ok... hmm...
[11:27] <MatthewV> rast4, try with sudo, but you'll probably get the same error
[11:27] <rast4> matthewv: thnk damnit...THINK!
[11:27] <rast4> :P
[11:27] <birdbrain> wozniak:cool, hope it works out for you
[11:27] <rast4> new error
[11:27] <wozniak> birdbrain: thanks for your help
[11:27] <MatthewV> rast4, oh?
[11:27] <birdbrain> wozniak:pleasure, see u later
[11:27] <rast4> matthewv: Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. COuld not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[11:27] <wozniak> birdbrain: bye
[11:28] <magus_x> is there anyway to reset sudo config
[11:28] <rast4> matthewv: should it be sudo grub-install /dev/hda6?
[11:28] <magus_x> ?
[11:28] <rast4> or just /dev/hda
[11:28] <MatthewV> rast4, you did chroot correctly...? so you are in your ubuntu partition?
[11:28] <Dimensions> neil___:  i have installed it now im login in ... which u/name and passwd i am suppose to give i tried my system u/name and passwd its not taking it
[11:28] <rast4> oh oops
[11:28] <MatthewV> rast4, no, the mbr is at /dev/hda
[11:28] <rast4> forgot to copy that one down
[11:28] <rast4> could you give me the chroot command again please
[11:29] <MatthewV> rast4, oh ok... 'sudo chroot /media/ubuntu'
[11:29] <rast4> ty
[11:29] <MatthewV> rast4, if that don't work i should be able to work out another grub command to do it without chroot...
[11:29] <Mitja> How do I remove an app installed from setup.py?
[11:30] <survivor> hmmm.
[11:30] <rast4> matthewv: without 'sudo' I get /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[11:30] <linav_> i got this weierd problem, when i play movies, i can hear sound but i cant view any picture
[11:30] <survivor> I had a disk with three partitions on it, FAT32, FAT32 and NTFS.
[11:30] <neil___> Dimensions: hang on I will try.
[11:30] <linav_> thsi happens for vlc, mplayer, totem
[11:30] <survivor> I resized the first FAT32 partition with parted.
[11:30] <MatthewV> rast4, and the same hostname error with sudo?
[11:30] <Healot> rast4, try this "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:30] <survivor> No I can't boot into the NTFS one anymore.
[11:30] <linav_> any one plz help
[11:30] <survivor> Suggestions?
[11:30] <rast4> matthewv: and same other error with sudo yes
[11:30] <heavydrinker> a downgrade did the trick, Ubuntu is running again....
[11:30] <survivor> (Yes, this is serious :|)
[11:31] <MatthewV> linav_, see !restricted
[11:31] <sotarn> Anyone with alsa care give some feedback on a script that changes default soundcard ? ( http://www20.brinkster.com/warranty/alsaswitch.txt )
[11:31] <MatthewV> rast4, ok, quit terminal and open a new one
[11:31] <linav_> MattewV: ya i did that and even copied all the necessary liv files
[11:31] <magus_x> i got a serious issue here :( , i got sudo problems
[11:31] <Hazarath> Okes, new to ubuntu, miss Winamp... any suggestions?
[11:31] <rast4> Healot: it's what its suppose to be
[11:31] <rast4> matthewv: ok ready
[11:31] <magus_x> Hazarath, : XMMS, way to go
[11:31] <survivor> My issue is seriouser, I lost my Windows!!1 ;)
[11:32] <nalpha> guys i want to ask if i want to edit pdf what software should i use??
[11:32] <linav_> MattewV: even the win32 codecs, there is error. but just cant see any pictues
[11:32] <mats> Hazarath: XMMS!
[11:32] <magus_x> even supports winamp skins!
[11:32] <magus_x> xmms even supports winamp skins!
[11:32] <Hazarath> Nice?
[11:32] <nalpha> XMMS is good...
[11:32] <linav_> MattewV: this is true for DVD's, small avi, firles
[11:32] <Tomcat_> gah, winamp/xmms... outdated stuff :)
[11:32] <nalpha> so ?
[11:32] <Healot> outdated?
[11:32] <magus_x> survivor, : lost yuor windows? thats great ( lol )
[11:32] <Tomcat_> Yeah, everyone should use what (s)he wants. :)
[11:33] <survivor> yeah except I have software on it I have to deliver tomorrow
[11:33] <MatthewV> rast4, disclaimer first... I'm not one hundred percent certain on this ;) so... try the command, from terminal 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/ubuntu /dev/hda'
[11:33] <survivor> -_-
[11:33] <Healot> yeah it is, but the simplest and fastest solution to your freaking mp3 :)
[11:33] <magus_x> ouch
[11:33] <survivor> parted killed the windows star
[11:33] <rast4> muahaha I love disclaimers
[11:33] <magus_x> survivor, : damn, thats bad
[11:33] <rast4> here we go
[11:33] <mats> i love mpg123 ;)
[11:33] <linav_> MattewV: any help?
[11:33] <Tomcat_> Well last time I checked xmms didn't have a music database to search, only a player and a playlist... might be enough for some, but I can't use that anymore. :o
[11:34] <MatthewV> linav_, I'm not sure on that... usually its just a problem with codecs.. but happening across all 3 players... I'm not sure
[11:34] <Paradoxx> how do i install the latest drivers for a geforce 7200 card. I am currently expereincing poor display with ones in repository
[11:34] <Hazarath> You two?
[11:34] <linav_> MattewV: any ways, thanks
[11:34] <Hazarath> ^too
[11:34] <Paradoxx> !nvidia
[11:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:34] <magus_x> i got a serious issue here :( , i got sudo problems, sudo programs are taking years to start, all after i start eth0
[11:34] <dlok> so.. what's finally the fix for de X server broken?.. I'm totally newbie.. sorry.. the link is just a forum with people posting they have this problem.. but can't find any clue about the official solution
[11:35] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Paste /etc/hosts to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:35] <rast4> matthewv: it spewed some stuff xfs_freeze errors, but it may have worked
[11:35] <Tomcat_> dlok: Download the updates... that should fix it.
[11:35] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : ok
[11:35] <mcphail> dlok: sudo apt get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:35] <MatthewV> linav_, possibly System --> Preferences --> Sound may help.. but that's just guessing.. as that would be to do with gstreamer only, which is used by default totem
[11:35] <dlok> ok
[11:36] <rast4> matthewv: says to check device map /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/device.map
[11:36] <linav_> MattewV: i am using xine as the engie for totem
[11:36] <bXi> is it safe to install the new xserver-xorg packages now?
[11:36] <MatthewV> rast4, if there was no obvious error... you could reboot.. or you might want to just pastebin the output...
[11:36] <magus_x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21456 Tomcat_
[11:36] <Tomcat_> bXi: Yes.
[11:36] <rast4> ok one sec
[11:36] <pedro123llanos> www.terra.cl
[11:36] <MatthewV> rast4, hmm.. may have worked... not sure...
[11:36] <survivor> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
[11:36] <rast4> screw it, let's reboot this mofo!
[11:37] <linav_> MattewV: but the prolem is with video not sound, i can very clearily hear the sound
[11:37] <neil___> Dimensions: in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-938.html  The problem stems from ubuntu not having a root password.  You need to setup a password for root for webmin to use.  There is an app for changing the webmin passwords in /usr/share/webmin/  use "changepass.pl /etc/webmin root <password>"
[11:37] <MatthewV> linav_, there's also an option for video in that dialogue
[11:37] <neil___> Dimensions: how did you install webmin?
[11:37] <linav_> MattewV: oh ok will luk into that, thanks
[11:37] <Dimensions> i just logged in neil___
[11:37] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Mh... looks okay. No idea, sorry. :\
[11:37] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : but that is weird, because everything runs ok, just programs who need sudo or if i use sudo before, like sudo gedit, take 3 or 5 minutes to start, and cupsys dont works that way
[11:37] <Dimensions> :) with sudo -i and then changed the passwd to root and logged in
[11:38] <Dimensions> but how can i access cron there ?
[11:38] <neil___> Dimensions: what did you use.
[11:38] <Tomcat_> magus_x: I'm pretty sure it has something to do with name resolving (DNS)... but not what exactly.
[11:38] <Dimensions> neil___:  when i downloaded it ... it installed it self automatically
[11:38] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : but network works, cups not, and sudo take years to work when eth0 is enabled, really weird
[11:38] <magus_x> :(
[11:39] <rast4> WAHOOO! MatthewV is DA' MAN!
[11:39] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Of course the network works, but is it slow or fast?
[11:39] <sotarn> Anyone with alsa care to give some feedback on a script that switches default soundcard ? ( http://www20.brinkster.com/warranty/alsaswitch.txt ) (udev not included for autoswitch).
[11:39] <MatthewV> rast4, it works?
[11:39] <heavydrinker> that upgrade button will bite you in the ass
[11:39] <rast4> matthewv: jah mon! works perfect
[11:39] <MatthewV> rast4, ok... thats great :D
[11:39] <rast4> matthewv: thanks a ton man
[11:40] <MatthewV> rast4, its no problem...
[11:40] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : network is normal
[11:40] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : but if i have to start any sudo program, with eth0 enabled, it take so long to start
[11:40] <rast4> alright, back to work on the windoze aspect ;\ thanks again man. have a good one
[11:40] <magus_x> thats why i think something messed up with my sudo
[11:40] <MatthewV> rast4, will do.. same to you :)
[11:41] <genceleci> how can I restore the clock of gnome it has been closed with an error and do not load again
[11:41] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Yeah, you explained that three times already. I don't know what's wrong, I'm sorry. :\
[11:41] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Maybe someone else. :o
[11:41] <vedix> hello
[11:41] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : no problem, but i dont see how network is related with sudo :(
[11:42] <mhiku> gentoo and ubuntu have the largest online in irc
[11:42] <magus_x> ops, ah, i dont know the word
[11:42] <magus_x> its not related...
[11:42] <Dimensions> neil___:  ?
[11:42] <rast4> could someone recommend a decent XviD codec package for Ubuntu dapper please
[11:42] <heavydrinker> gentoo is for Wayne the Main Brain types
[11:43] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : but thanks for the help anyways, is there a way to reset sudo?
[11:43] <mats> what the hekk do you want with that kind of codec? ;)
[11:43] <rast4> to ply my homemade porn movies obviously man ;)
[11:43] <mats>  /etc/init.d/sudo restart
[11:43] <magus_x> thanks
[11:43] <Tomcat_> magus_x: sudo -K
[11:43] <Tomcat_> mats: Nah. :o
[11:44] <neil___> Dimensions: if the name/password wasn't working what did you use to log into webmin?
[11:44] <rast4> I can't get XviD movies to play with sound and most just won't play at all, not in any player, it complains about XviD codec
[11:44] <magus_x> i mean, sudo config ,if sudo has one
[11:44] <mats> Tomcat_: ah, killing the sudo prosess ;)
[11:45] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Post your /etc/sudoers file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[11:45] <MatthewV> rast4, nothing in !restricted help? I'm assuming you followed that...
[11:46] <rast4> yeah I downloaded some weak xvid codec pack with Synaptic, but it doesn't wor
[11:46] <rast4> work
[11:46] <magus_x> wait, i need wait my gedit open with sudo, that take years, or is there anyway to see the file without gedit?
[11:46] <Tomcat_> !tell rast4 about restrictedformats
[11:46] <Tomcat_> magus_x: sudo less /etc/sudoers
[11:46] <rast4> ty
[11:47] <Tomcat_> Sup with ubotu? :o
[11:47] <Tomcat_> !help
[11:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:48] <magus_x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21458
[11:48] <Tomcat_> magus_x: No need to reset it, it's exactly the way it is when set up first
[11:49] <speed0001> hey!
[11:49] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : then i got no idea of what should i do, i will wait my dapper cds and reinstall
[11:50] <Tomcat_> magus_x: I'm pretty sure that problem can be easily fixed, but I have no idea how to do it.
[11:50] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : either i :~
[11:51] <Dimensions> neil___:  how do i access cron there ... ?? and also how do i access the PPPD ? i can only see ppp ... ( i changed the user to root in ubuntu shell with sudo -i and changed root passwd and then logged as root in webmin ))
[11:53] <pd222> I installed ubuntu on my laptop now, It is looking excellent, one issue is all the fonts and applications are looking huge in size, how can i reduce all of them in general
[11:54] <DrFinn> was anyone able to upgrade to latest xserver-xorg-core ?
[11:55] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: Yes.
[11:55] <DrFinn> how
[11:55] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: In case you mean ubuntu10.3 (not ubuntu10.4 which is the latest), check the topic.
[11:55] <DrFinn> I reverted from 10.3.to 10.2
[11:55] <javiolo> Xubuntu will work on a pentium 3 with 128 of ram ?
[11:56] <DrFinn> did u manage to get 10.4?
[11:56] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: In that case, update again... 10.4 is out and works.
[11:56] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Try the LiveCD... :)
[11:56] <javiolo> I tried the livecd buts its slowww
[11:57] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Well, it'll be a bit faster when installed, but I wouldn't know if it's enough...
[11:57] <javiolo> just a bit ?
[11:57] <javiolo> agh
[11:57] <Tomcat_> javiolo: You might want to try xubuntu, that will definitely work.
[11:57] <neil___> Dimensions: click on the "system" tab then the "Scheduled Cron Jobs" icon
[11:57] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Maybe much faster, even probable.
[11:58] <javiolo> tomcat_ as I said Im talking about xubuntu
[11:58] <pluto_> hi
[11:58] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Oi, sorry... didn't read that. :)
[11:58] <javiolo> :P
[11:58] <DrFinn> Tomcat_: the synaptic package manager sees the update but when downloading turns out that it ca't get the archive
[11:58] <Tomcat_> javiolo: I'm pretty sure it'll work, but I can't promise... the LiveCD unpacks everything to RAM, so it's slow as hell.
[11:58] <pluto_> which is the best media player for ubuntu?
[11:58] <javiolo> using the livecd its slow but Im thinking that the problem is the 128 of ram
[11:59] <javiolo> ok
[11:59] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: Sounds like a problem with your net connection... :o
[11:59] <Tomcat_> pluto_: movies or music?
[11:59] <shreevatsa> pluto_, mplayer, if you can handle it :-)
[11:59] <pluto_> well i've tried mplayer,
[11:59] <Tomcat_> pluto_: movies: totem-xine, music: rhythmbox imho
[11:59] <pluto_> totem is dumb though
[11:59] <chamo> what's the best plugin for gnome to check my mails (pop + gmail) ?
[11:59] <chamo> (in your opinion)
[11:59] <pluto_> why is it there in the default installation?
[11:59] <hextor> hello everyone: One question, the Wine installation is taking too much space in my home partition - is there a safe way to move it out to a different partition, create a symlink and still have it operational?
[12:00] <javiolo> tomcat_ I need to run win or wathever to run a win corporate app, it will work ?
[12:00] <chamo> hextor, yes you can do that. move it somewhere else and create a link.
[12:00] <DrFinn> Tomcat_: how did you get the 10.4?
[12:00] <shreevatsa> pluto_, and what was wrong with mplayer?
[12:00] <hextor> chamo: a link with ln -s ?
[12:00] <Tomcat_> chamo: gnubiff + checkgmail I guess... though I don't use gmail.
[12:00] <pluto_> mplayer did work,but it had problems with the rendering engine
[12:01] <Tomcat_> javiolo: On 128M? I doubt it... what app?
[12:01] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: Update Manager notified me, then I installed it... worked like a charm.
[12:01] <pluto_> actually it did not work on one of the systems i installed
[12:01] <chamo> never heard of gnubiff. will have a look. thanks :)
[12:01] <shreevatsa> pluto_, rendering engine? what's that? I'm not sure I follow... anyway, another mplayer equivalent is xine
[12:02] <Tomcat_> chamo: Can do pop/imap/mbox/maildir with/without ssl, pops up nice info messages... multiple accounts, many settings :o
[12:02] <pluto_> i've tried xine as well,it didn't work
[12:02] <neil___> Dimensions: how you going there?
[12:02] <DrFinn> Tomcat_: here is what i get "W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[12:02] <DrFinn>   404 Not Found
[12:02] <debuntu> pluto_, what are you trying to play?
[12:03] <pluto_> i was trying to play .mov quicktime files
[12:03] <chamo> Tomcat_, seems cool!
[12:03] <pluto_> mplayer did work with w32 codecs
[12:03] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: Try another server instead of au.archive.ubuntu.com... seems like it doesn't have the update yet. Or wait. :)
[12:03] <freaky_> hey there, how do i change my monitor in ubuntu? Had it set to 1280x1024 resolution, but that's to big to take over the screen remotely. so set it down to 1024x768, but after a reboot it now has 640x480 and i can't increase it (can't adjust refresh rate either)
[12:03] <javiolo> Tomcat its an app to manage marks of the kids
[12:03] <debuntu> DrFinn, that's what i get too
[12:04] <debuntu> DrFinn, using au.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Mh... might work. I don't know... you'll have to try. :)
[12:04] <javiolo> Tomcat_ wine requieres much ram ?
[12:04] <hextor> everyone; how do I move the wine directory? when trying it says.. Failed to preserve ownership for xxxx operation not permitted
[12:04] <pluto_> hey does anybody know how to generate a new menu.lst for grub?
[12:04] <DrFinn> how do I change the server?
[12:04] <freaky_> probably has to do with the fact it doesn't have a monitor attached now... it's running with only powercords and network, we use it as a server and only connect through ssh/vnc
[12:05] <debuntu> DrFinn, don't worry, just wait a while. The australian repo will be updated soon
[12:05] <DrFinn> ok
[12:05] <Tomcat_> javiolo: Not really... but with 128M, your PC will have enough trouble keeping the OS itself in memory... not much left I guess.
[12:05] <debuntu> DrFinn, you don't think you'll die without the update? ;)
[12:05] <Tomcat_> javiolo: You'll really have to try, I'm only basing these comments on little experience...
[12:06] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list <- delete "au.", so it reads "archive.ubuntu.com"
[12:06] <DrFinn> no ..It just got angry with the x error with version 10.3 ... went to get the upgrade..wasn`t there
[12:07] <DrFinn> delete "au" on all links?
[12:07] <hextor> chamo: how do i move the wine directory? it pops up an error message if simply trying mv
[12:07] <cafuego_> Odd, even the internode mirror has it by now.
[12:08] <DarkMageZ> cafuego_, how far behind is the internode mirror normally? i might start using it
[12:08] <Tomcat_> DrFinn: Plus the dot.
[12:08] <cafuego_> DarkMageZ: I think it updates at least once a day; possibly twice.
[12:08] <npster> Xubuntu is GTK 1.x and GTK 2.x compatible ?
[12:08] <chamo> hextor, with a command you have to type :     mv .wine /drive/newdir
[12:08] <cafuego_> Though on occasion it stops syncing until I email their tech support people and abuse them ;-)
[12:09] <chamo> what's wrong when you try to move it?
[12:09] <meathead_> X can't find my screen... help.
[12:09] <speedy> my wireless device is not detected on dell latitude d520 core duo laptop, is there anyone knows how to get it working?
[12:09] <MatthewV> meathead_, see /topic
[12:09] <DarkMageZ> cafuego_, i think i might switch my testbox to it, so i can abuse them as well :)
[12:09] <DrFinn> should i delete "au" on all links in the sources.list ?
[12:09] <cafuego_> meathead_: Check the /topic
[12:09] <meathead_> how exactly am I going to see that if X is broken?
[12:09] <hextor> chamo: it pops a message by some files saying "Failed to preserve ownership for xxxx operation not permitted"
[12:09] <npster> Is Xubuntu GTK 1.x and GTK 2.x Compatible ???
[12:10] <MatthewV> meathead_, lynx?
[12:10] <DarkMageZ> npster, please stop spamming, we saw you the first time
[12:10] <cafuego> npster: If you install gtk or gtk2, yes, of course.
[12:10] <meathead_> MatthewV: well arn't you mr. smarty pants
[12:10] <rast4> could someone answer this: I want to open a file on another computer via a Samba share, in Windows it's network neighborhood, how do I navigate to my net hood in ubuntu so I can select a file to open across the wetwork
[12:10] <Tomcat_> meathead_: Try updating again: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:10] <Tomcat_> meathead_: The fix for the Xserver problem got released today.
[12:10] <rast4> let me clarify
[12:10] <chamo> hextor, well do it with root then. and after restore file permission.
[12:10] <rast4> I want to open a file in GXine
[12:11] <chamo> type "sudo su"
[12:11] <chamo> then
[12:11] <chamo> mv again
[12:11] <rast4> and locate a file while in Gxine across the network
[12:11] <npster> Will themes from gnome-look.org work on xubuntu ?
[12:11] <meathead_> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:11] <chamo> and after that a "chmod -R 755 /drive/to/wine" should do it
[12:11] <meathead_> that's not going to upgrade me to edgy eft is it?
[12:11] <chamo> meathead_, nope
[12:11] <meathead_> k
[12:11] <MatthewV> meathead_, sry... i didnt mean it that way... that command iwll work
[12:12] <hadi> how to open terminal from keyboard?
[12:12] <DrFinn> meathead: just do apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[12:12] <Tomcat_> meathead_: Nah, it's just what I usually use, because it'll install dependencies correctly... you can use upgrade as well.
[12:13] <hadi> how to open terminal from keyboard?
[12:13] <meathead_> uhhh, even after the upgrade of xorg it still won't
[12:13] <meathead_> do I need to restart?
[12:13] <Tomcat_> hadi: alt-F2 "gnome-terminal"? Ctrl+F1 to F6? :)
[12:13] <Tomcat_> meathead_: At least restart X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)
[12:14] <MatthewV> meathead_, after upgrade, run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[12:14] <rast4> hadi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50794
[12:14] <meathead_> how can I restart it if it won't start in the first place?
[12:14] <meathead_> ctrl-alt-backspace in irssi in console?
[12:14] <freaky_> hadi: ? ctrl+alt+f1?
[12:14] <MatthewV> meathead_, see the command above
[12:14] <magus_x> i need someone with system normal
[12:14] <chamo> hextor, got it ?
[12:14] <meathead_> k
[12:14] <Tomcat_> meathead_: No when you are in some kind of X...
[12:14] <magus_x> to tell me the config of /etc/sudoers
[12:14] <magus_x> please
[12:14] <hadi> thx every body
[12:14] <Tomcat_> meathead_: How do you check if it works?
[12:15] <freaky_> hadi: that's a real terminal, not one of those running under x
[12:15] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Your /etc/sudoers is perfectly fine.
[12:15] <freaky_> hadi: hit alt+f7 to go back
[12:15] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : damn, no idea then
[12:15] <meathead_> gnome display manager loads
[12:15] <magus_x> :(
[12:15] <meathead_> but X won't
[12:15] <meathead_> same error
[12:15] <hextor> chamo: i think so but i think i did a mistake,. i moved it first to the fat partition and it was not able to preserve the links nor create permission
[12:15] <Tomcat_> magus_x: I suggest asking in ubuntuforums.org :o
[12:16] <Tomcat_> magus_x: Or ask here again at another time.
[12:16] <magus_x> yeah i will do that now
[12:16] <hadi> freaky_ hadi: hit alt+f7 to go back >>>> thanks very match :)
[12:16] <Tomcat_> meathead_: But you did get version 10.4 of xserver-xorg-core?
[12:16] <meathead_> I just got the newest version
[12:16] <meathead_> as in, 4 minutes ago newest
[12:16] <meathead_> if that's 10.4 then ys
[12:16] <meathead_> yes
[12:16] <chamo> hextor, ouh... dunno about fat. you should give a try even without partition it might work. not sure tough
[12:17] <hextor> chamo: will try reinstalling :D
[12:18] <meathead_> so
[12:18] <meathead_> can anyone else help?
[12:19] <geek> hello all
[12:19] <geek> can someone help with apache ?
[12:19] <HeathenDan> how do i play .amr files in ubuntu?
[12:19] <meathead_> ask the question
[12:19] <meathead_> we'll try
[12:19] <meathead_> !proprietary formats
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proprietary formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <meathead_> egh
[12:20] <meathead_> I can't spell today
[12:20] <Healot> !restricted
[12:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:20] <Tomcat_> !ask geek
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask geek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Healot> btw what .amr?
[12:20] <Tomcat_> geek: Please no metaquestions... just ask. :)
[12:20] <geek> i have installed snort & base php apache 1.3 but when my browser try to load php file it return me save file as
[12:20] <geek> i can't see php file , this is a phtml file exactly
[12:20] <Tomcat_> geek: Check that 1) php module is loaded 2) file types are registered for php
[12:21] <geek> Tomcat_: how can i chek the 1) point fopr module ?
[12:21] <rayna> hi, for some reason x won't start - it says fatal server error: no screens found. I have copied my xorg log into the pastebin here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21461 can someone please help??
[12:21] <HeathenDan> .amr is voice-recorded files from cellphones
[12:21] <Tomcat_> geek: You should have php entries in /etc/apache/mods-enabled
[12:21] <HeathenDan> it's the most common format for mobiles
[12:21] <pluma> Okay what does the .d suffix in directory names mean?
[12:21] <ashik> How to play audio files in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <Healot> nokia's?
[12:21] <javiolo> rayna its a bug on a update
[12:21] <rayna> javiolo, what do u mean?
[12:21] <HeathenDan> i've seen it used by nokia, motorola and ericsson
[12:22] <Tomcat_> rayna: Update again... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:22] <rayna> javiolo, oh ok thanks for your help :)
[12:22] <Healot> my phone record voice using GSM wave
[12:22] <rayna> Tomcat_, why do I have to do dist-upgrade?
[12:22] <rayna> Tomcat_, last time I just did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:22] <rayna> then it broke
[12:22] <speedy> why do i have high brightness after installing some video codecs?
[12:22] <Healot> 8000Hz 8bit GSM wave
[12:23] <ashik> Can any body help me playing audio files in Ubuntu
[12:23] <Tomcat_> rayna: No need to... do upgrade if you like that :)
[12:23] <rayna> Tomcat_, thanks :)
[12:23] <Tomcat_> rayna: I just use dist-upgrade by default because it fixes dependencies :o
[12:23] <pluma> like /etc/cron.d -- what does the .d mean? AFAIK in usenet groups it means "digest", but that wouldn't make much sense here, would it?
[12:23] <chamo> Tomcat_, gnubiff doesnt stay in the systray ?
[12:23] <rayna> Tomcat_, ok great... thanks for ur help
[12:24] <TheMafia> When I try to run the cd I downloaded I get invalid compressed format )err=1)
[12:24] <Tomcat_> chamo: You have to add it to your gnome-panel.
[12:24] <hojdyx> does anyone know how to setup in screen if i want multiusermode. It's aking me  setuid root  /usr/bin/screen  ? hm
[12:24] <ashik> I am sorry, i might be interrupting by repeating my question
[12:25] <chamo> gosh
[12:25] <chamo> Tomcat_, thanks :)
[12:25] <ashik> help me playing audio files on ubuntu
[12:25] <hojdyx> anyboy experienced with screen?
[12:25] <Tomcat_> hojdyx: A bit... yeah.
[12:25] <chamo> hojdyx, try it ^^
[12:26] <Healot> ashik
[12:26] <Healot> !mpr
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Tomcat_> pluma: Good question... never really thought about that.
[12:26] <Healot> !mp3
[12:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:26] <RvGaTe> hojdyx, yup... just ask your question
[12:26] <hojdyx> where is located screen in ubuntu?
[12:26] <rayna> hojdyx, /usr/bin/screen
[12:26] <ashik> Healot: yes
[12:26] <HeathenDan> install w32codecs
[12:26] <RvGaTe> hojdyx, whereis screen
[12:27] <pluma> Also, what would /ext1 be in Ubuntu? I don't even know what that directory is supposed to represent, but apparently it's used in some other distros for things like CVS.
[12:27] <pluma> Also, what does ext1 mean anyway?
[12:27] <hojdyx> so how  do i set setuid for every user?
[12:27] <Tomcat_> pluma: I don't have that... :o
[12:28] <ashik> Healot: You can help me
[12:28] <pluma> Tomcat_: the CVS installation guide tells me to create a directory in /ext1/cvs/ and symlink it to /cvs/ -- I guess I'll just put it elsewhere then. Also I don't like cluttering up the root like that.
[12:29] <ashik> Healot: I need your help
[12:29] <Tomcat_> pluma: When you install cvs I guess there'll be a directory somewhere... probably in /var/lib
[12:29] <verdurin> I have dist-upgraded from Debian unstable to Dapper, but there's a conflict between the old tzdata package and the new locales package.  Is there a resolution for this kind of conflict?
[12:30] <hojdyx> Set the screen binary (/usr/bin/screen) setuid root - How do i do that?
[12:30] <pluma> Tomcat_: /var/lib/cvs/CVSROOT -- not particularily pretty or sensible. First of all, why would my CVSROOT be in /var/lib/? I'll probably just symlink that from /var/cvs or something
[12:31] <Tomcat_> pluma: Because most database-like apps put their data in /var/lib? Postgres does, MySQL does, and I guess CVS and SVN do too...
[12:31] <pluma> Tomcat_: But /lib/ is for libraries...
[12:31] <Tomcat_> pluma: It might not be pretty, but /var/lib is the correct location for variable system-wide application data.
[12:32] <Tomcat_> pluma: Yeah, I don't know why it's called /var/lib either, but that's the location :o
[12:32] <jn> how do i change an application that must be run as root so it can be run by a user
[12:33] <rast4> someone asked if gnome-look.org themes worked with Ubuntu, anyone remember the answer?
[12:33] <rast4> I need to spiffy up my desktop
[12:33] <Tomcat_> jn: You'd have to change the application itself... so in short: you can't. :)
[12:33] <pluma> Ze fuq? How come TOMCAT uses /var/lib/ too? Now THAT is beyond retarded. Especially as the default for Apache is /var/www/
[12:33] <jn> is that right?
[12:33] <jn> i wonder why this program is set up that way
[12:33] <Tomcat_> pluma: I guess you'd have to ask the application devs ;P
[12:34] <Tomcat_> rast4: Work for me... why not? They are just gnome themes, and Ubuntu has gnome.
[12:34] <rast4> I just downloaded one and went to install it and it says invalid format
[12:35] <rast4> Tomcat_: By reason, that is what I was thinking, but I got an error
[12:35] <Tomcat_> rast4: Sounds more like a broken theme... I never had problems with that. :)
[12:35] <Hazarath> Help getting/installing xmms
[12:35] <rast4> strange
[12:35] <Hazarath> Please.
[12:35] <rast4> let me try a few more then
[12:36] <Hazarath> Oh, duh.
[12:36] <frogzoo> Hazarath: run synaptic -> search & install
[12:36] <Hazarath> Ya.
[12:36] <Hazarath> XD
[12:36] <Hazarath> Didn't even try to look... silleh meh.
[12:37] <Hazarath> Think I'm gettin' the hang of ubuntu.
[12:37] <Hazarath> Just fixed my screen savers so I can _edit_ them, lol
[12:37] <frogzoo> pluma: where would you like your data instead of /var?
[12:37] <treb0r> Hazarath: Which distro did you use before?
[12:38] <Hazarath> Used: 5.10 w/ screensaver options. Got now: 6.06
[12:38] <Hazarath> And, hooked it up.
[12:38] <frogzoo> pluma: ohs - the 'lib' - yeh, strange
[12:38] <Dimensions> neil___:  sorry i m in office so therefore i have to go here and there .... well i got the cron job there ... but can't find pppd ... infact what i really wanna do is to dial via GRPS Modem of my mobile ..... we have many client pcs and will do the same for all of them ...and add them into cron then to dial on hourly basis ... so can i do it with PPP ? because so far i have done settting with PPPD
[12:38] <Hazarath> Disable Gnome screensaver, enabled xscreensaver/installed
[12:38] <Dimensions>  neil___:  sorry i m in office so therefore i have to go here and there .... well i got the cron job there ... but can't find pppd ... infact what i really wanna do is to dial via GRPS Modem of my mobile ..... we have many client pcs and will do the same for all of them ...and add them into cron then to dial on hourly basis ... so can i do it with PPP ? because so far i have done settting with PPPD
[12:40] <frogzoo> Hazarath: any trick to getting xscreensaver to start on boot up? or did you add to gnome's startup apps?
[12:40] <Hazarath> Hold on...
[12:41] <Hazarath> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195557 That told me how to disable gnome, install xscreensaver, and make it default.
[12:41] <Hazarath> Also got extra screensavers. :3
[12:41] <frogzoo> Hazarath: much appreciated, just what I've been looking for
[12:42] <frogzoo> Hazarath: I only run matrixview
[12:42] <Hazarath> Well, would ya look at that... the n00b helping others already. XD
[12:42] <Hazarath> frogzoo, Heh... nice, but... kinda scary... I like Flocks
[12:42] <frogzoo> Hazarath: check out rss-glx - they're really good
[12:43] <Hazarath> frogzoo, Eh? Where?
[12:44] <Hazarath> frogzoo, May I PM?
[12:46] <Hazarath> Forgot to identify, lol
[12:46] <MikeyMike> asdf
[12:48] <frogzoo> Hazarath: install with synaptic - then read install instructions in /usr/share/doc/rss-glx/README.xscreensaver
[12:49] <Hazarath> frogzoo, Not there.
[12:50] <frogzoo> sudo apt-get install rss-glx
[12:51] <Dromen_> does anyone know if microsoft word can open abiword files?
[12:51] <Dromen_> .abw ?
[12:52] <Hazarath> Man, gave my ubuntu desktop a nice workover, got xmms... time to go to bed... x.x
[12:52] <Subhuman> Dromen_, i don't think so no.
[12:53] <Subhuman> Dracon, save your abiword files as .rtf or .doc to make them word-friendly
[12:53] <Hazarath> First... xmms... Winamp had a 'show only in system try' thingy... this thing got something like that?
[12:53] <immolo> heya, does anyone know what happened to the compile your own kernel section in the wiki?
[12:53] <Nookie^> VOTE: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9835380873.html
[12:54] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[12:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:54] <bimberi> immolo: ^^^^
[12:54] <immolo> thanks
[12:54] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:54] <Hazarath> Any dice, guys?
[12:55] <Hazarath> [and gals] 
[12:55] <chamo> when starting KDE application on my gnome desktop, I get an DCOP communication error. Should I install some other software ?
[12:56] <Hazarath> Need help in xmms...
[12:56] <Ng> Hazarath: there's xmms-status-plugin, not sure if that lets you only have it appear in the system tray, but at least it'll let you put it there, or on the panel or something ;)
[01:01] <rast4> is there a way to assume "root" on the desktop? I'm trying to copy over theme items to like /use/share/icons and I'm getting Permission denied
[01:02] <HeathenDan> what's a good wallpaper to complement a gorilla themed desktop?
[01:02] <jpjacobs> gksu <app>
[01:02] <bimberi> rast4: you can run nautilus with superuser privileges:  gksudo nautilus
[01:02] <rast4> ty
[01:03] <jpjacobs> but watch out when doing that, you can seriously crippl your system (using nautilus as root)
[01:03] <rast4> it's complaining about Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:04] <rast4> that a bad thing?
[01:04] <bimberi> rast4: no
[01:04] <rast4> k ty again
[01:05] <bimberi> rast4: np (and take care as jpjacobs said :) )
[01:05] <rast4> yeah I'll just copy things over and get the hell out
[01:05] <rast4> :D
[01:05] <imme> How do I reconfigure my display-manager, 'cause it won't start... :(
[01:05] <rast4> thanks for the heads up jpjacobs
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[01:06] <imme> It was something like "reconfigure xorg-xserver" right?
[01:06] <Lynoure> Cloude: Why?
[01:07] <coolun> hi everybody
[01:07] <guadalinex> olaaaa
[01:07] <coolun> :)
[01:07] <jpjacobs> guess Cloude is a spambot...
[01:07] <coolun> i have a problem with my xorg
[01:07] <guadalinex> ay alguien por aki??
[01:07] <coolun> :)
[01:08] <ashik> what are audio player for ubuntu?
[01:08] <guadalinex> me entendeis??
[01:08] <Cloude> nope nothing at all I just need help! so please!
[01:08] <_azrael__> jpjacobs: Actually, by the url, I'm guessing he's trying to get people to go to one of those "haha, I tricked you into going to x site" competitions.
[01:08] <coolun> i have a FreeFontPath : FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
[01:08] <_azrael__> !es > guadalinex
[01:08] <coolun> someone has already this kind of problem?
[01:08] <Thunderpants> ashik, xmms
[01:09] <guadalinex> _azarel_ tu ablas castellano??
[01:09] <_azrael__> guadalinex: No, solo hablo un poquito de espanol.
[01:09] <guadalinex> oki
[01:09] <ashik> Thunderpants: please, i need the exact link
[01:09] <guadalinex> weno tonces me voy para el ubuntu-es
[01:09] <guadalinex> xaoooo
[01:09] <guadalinex> bye
[01:09] <Thunderpants> ashik, link? u mean the command to install it?
[01:10] <ashik> Thunderpants: ok that too will work
[01:10] <Thunderpants> ashik, sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:12] <ashik> Thunderpants: its progressing.......
[01:12] <pmo> hello
[01:13] <ashik> Thunderpants: can it play mp3?
[01:13] <Thunderpants> yes ashik
[01:13] <pmo> i got a ubuntu issue mounting a hdd
[01:13] <RvGaTe> ashik, as far as i know, it can play anything...
[01:15] <Quicksilva> What is a good ftp client for linux?
[01:15] <Thunderpants> Quicksilva, gftp
[01:16] <Quicksilva> ok
[01:16] <Quicksilva> Just trying to figure out how to get ssl to work :p
[01:17] <Quicksilva> !ssl
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <Rozi> how should i set permision/user/group on var/www so apache can read it?
[01:17] <jpjacobs> Quicksilva, sure you don't mean ssh?
[01:18] <babo> So my directory has a group of 'user' and an owner of root, and 775 permission. When I try to open a file with 'user', it tells me that the directory is write-protected ... :-(
[01:18] <ashik> Thunderpants: its not playing
[01:19] <Quicksilva> jpjacobs:  trying *******:*****
[01:19] <Quicksilva> Connected to *******:*****
[01:19] <Quicksilva> 220 mkfsdv1 Microsoft FTP Service (Version 5.0).
[01:19] <Quicksilva> USER Quicksilva
[01:19] <Quicksilva> 530 User Quicksilva access denied. Use secure access
[01:19] <Quicksilva> Disconnecting from site *******
[01:19] <Thunderpants> have u loaded the codecs ashik
[01:19] <HeathenDan> how do i install an .ape codec for playback/encoding?
[01:19] <ashik> Thunderpants: how to do that?
[01:19] <Thunderpants> ashik, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:20] <babo> can anyone help ?
[01:21] <kyja> ok, I have set up a rather nice system here, cept gnomebaker wont start and run, I cant seem to format dvd+rw
[01:21] <kyja> babo: with?
[01:21] <babo> So my directory has a group of 'user' and an owner of root, and 775 permission. When I try to open a file with 'user', it tells me that the directory is write-protected ... :-(
[01:22] <kyja> 755?
[01:22] <kyja> hmmm
[01:23] <kyja> owner is root yet others is read and x
[01:23] <kyja> should work. whats the group?
[01:23] <kyja> this is 1600755 right?
[01:23] <ashik> Thunderpants: Is there anyway to get it through command?
[01:23] <ramvi> I'm starting a service called mouseemu to be able to use right mouse button on a macbook. But when I start mouseemu, I can't move the pointer with the mousepad. But I can use both left and right mouse button :p What should I do?
[01:25] <babo> kyja: yes, it should work, but it doesn't. Anyway, I've changed the owner to 'user' now so it'll be fine. Cheers anyway ... :-)
[01:25] <kyja> k babo
[01:25] <J_P> hi all
[01:26] <Rozi> can someone tell me what are default permitions/user/group on var/www? ^^
[01:27] <Schalken> is there any other linux distribution that uses the whole 'only use sudo for admin' idea?
[01:27] <ashik> Thunderpants: Is there anyway to get it through command?
[01:28] <Quicksilva> How do i use secure connections in gFTP
[01:29] <frahi> I have a problem installing lirc: The modules fail to load with error 'Unknown symbol class_simple_device_add'. anybody an idea what might be wrong?
[01:30] <Rozi> can someone tell me what are default permitions/user/group on var/www?
[01:31] <frahi> Rozi: here it is: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2005-12-25 19:45 /var/www
[01:31] <Rozi> frahi thx
[01:31] <PupUsere88b6b> So this room is all about Puppy Linux thats really cool8-|)
[01:32] <jpjacobs> PupUsere88b6b, think your in the wrong channel ;)
[01:32] <ashik> My xmms is not working
[01:32] <jaakkos> "this is actually a cs-clan"
[01:33] <PupUsere88b6b> So what version of puppy is everyone using?
[01:33] <PupUsere88b6b> 2.02 live here
[01:34] <ashik> My xmms is not working, how to make it run
[01:34] <jpjacobs> PupUsere88b6b, type /topic, see second , third and fourth word --> ubuntu support channel
[01:34] <PupUsere88b6b> its really cool how you can run a live cd distro and go online to chat rooms and do just about anything
[01:35] <linuxd00d> is there  any software on linux that is like hyperterminal???
[01:35] <frogzoo> linuxd00d: ckermit & minicom
[01:35] <zyclop> ashik: define "not working"
[01:35] <PupUsere88b6b> yes its called abiword
[01:36] <linuxd00d> frogzoo, cheers
[01:36] <POVaddct> linuxd00d: minicom, screen
[01:36] <ashik> zyclop: I installed xmms thru apt-get
[01:36] <zyclop> ashik: and..?
[01:36] <ashik> zyclop: but i cannot play my audio files
[01:36] <Quicksilva> Can someone please explain to me how to set up secure connections in gFTP
[01:37] <zyclop> ashik: does xmms start?
[01:37] <ashik> zyclop:  how to start
[01:37] <zyclop> open a terminal emulator and type in xmms. then press enter
[01:38] <ashik> zyclop: I can open it but cannot play
[01:38] <linuxd00d> frogzoo, is these programs actually in the add/remove function, because i need a program asap, if you have a URL that wou;d be appreciated
[01:38] <zyclop> ashik: what kind of files are you trying to play? .mp3 or .ogg ?
[01:40] <frogzoo> linuxd00d: check the repos
[01:40] <ashik> izyclop: mp3
[01:40] <ashik> zyclop: and .wma
[01:40] <linuxd00d> frogzoo, ok
[01:41] <zyclop> ashik: it seems, that you don't have a plugin for mp3
[01:41] <ashik> zyclop: what should i do then?
[01:42] <ashik> whzyclop: while it shows debian logo
[01:43] <zyclop> ashik: sorry, but wtf are you trying to tell me?
[01:43] <internat> stupid question. what is the testing version of ubutnu?
[01:44] <internat> dapper is obviously the stable version, is edgy the next one?
[01:44] <elkbuntu> yes
[01:44] <shawnr_> internat, means its testing lol
[01:44] <ashik> zyclop: I need to know what should I do to have plugin for mp3
[01:44] <internat> just checking :)
[01:44] <shawnr_> !mp3
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <internat> i keep forgetting ubutnu goes in alpha order
[01:45] <internat> where as debian goes from toy story :)
[01:45] <zyclop> ashik: you'll have to download a package that enables mp3 support. I'm trying to find out wich one at the moment.
[01:45] <sfar> !compiz
[01:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:46] <pluma> Considering how big Windows screwed up on me yesterday, I'm really happy about Ubuntu's stability.
[01:46] <shawnr_> !mp3 > ashik
[01:46] <shawnr_> !mp3 > zyclop
[01:46] <ashik> zyclop: thanks
[01:46] <Rei_ayanami> ok i have a friend who needs a bit of help.. and the doz comp he is on doesn't have irc soo here goes if you have any ideas let me know
[01:46] <ashik> shawnr_:yes
[01:46] <sfar> why do i get this errormsg when updating xorg-drivers-fglrx
[01:46] <sfar> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_8.28.8-1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:46] <loko555> Maybe SECURITY-Problem, can somebody confirm this: "sudo updatedb" and as normal user "locate div.bilder" gives: "/root/div.bilder/xxx.jpg"
[01:47] <manopulus> connect: Resource temporarily unavailable - i have this each 15-60 minutes at my dapper server. p4 pachine. it appear for links (web) and for ping. it  appear for short, 1-20 seconds, then diasppear. what reacon could be it?
[01:47] <loko555> that should not happen cause slocate, i think? but it happens
[01:47] <Rei_ayanami> Isolatedvirus: in windows, i had to create a LAN connection, and then create the PPPoE connection for high speed DSL. so on windows id have 2 seperate connections, it would send the username and password to the router, the router was configured for DHCP, and would send back my IP to me. and id have internet access /  the only problem, is i cant figure out how to get linux to send the username and password to the router. / my NIC
[01:47] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:48] <ashik> shawnr_: please give me the link for plugin for mp3
[01:48] <loko555> the problem seems to be that if the su made an updatedb the normal user can find things inside the root-dir
[01:48] <shawnr_> er
[01:48] <zyclop> ashik: do you have multiverse enabled?
[01:48] <shawnr_> !mp3
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <loko555> could somebody confirm this?
[01:48] <shawnr_> READ THAT
[01:49] <ashik>  zyclop: well how to do that?
[01:49] <shawnr_> ashik, have you ever considered trying to figure some things out for yourself
[01:49] <internat> is there actually a testing/edgy server? cause none of the mirrors ive looked at seem to have it
[01:49] <zyclop> try seraching the official documentation. that way you'll find out more than i can tell you
[01:49] <ashik>  shawnr_: well, where should i type that command? in browser or in terminal
[01:49] <shawnr_> ashik, did you even go to the site
[01:49] <zyclop> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <Stormx2> folks, is 128mb VRAM considers hi/med/lo-end nowerdays?
[01:50] <delire> loko555: updatedb probably runs as a cron job though doesn't it?
[01:50] <Stormx2> considered*
[01:50] <shawnr_> ashik, terminal
[01:50] <pepOSX> i do aptitude update and my xserver-xorg its update, but my X dont work now
[01:50] <pepOSX> i install the driver again its ati radeon
[01:50] <loko555> delire: i don't know, maybe but the problem is that the normal user can find things inside the "root-directory" and this should not be
[01:51] <pepOSX> but dont work
[01:51] <linuxd00d> is there  any software on linux that is like hyperterminal???
[01:51] <POVaddct> linuxd00d: minicom, screen
[01:51] <pepOSX> i try ti initial with VESA but dont work
[01:51] <shinobi2> synaptic does not have java 1.5, why?
[01:51] <loko555> delire: can you confirm this problem
[01:51] <delire> loko555: i don't think that's a problem. why is the /root/ directory any worse than /etc/ or /var?
[01:52] <erUSUL> POVaddct: screen is not like minicom or hyperterminal....
[01:52] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me with vsftpd?
[01:52] <delire> loko555: the user can just as easily ls /etc/ and see the systemwide configuration files. doesn't mean much if they can't write to them.
[01:52] <POVaddct> erUSUL: you can use screen as a terminal prog: screen /dev/ttyS0
[01:52] <POVaddct> erUSUL: it's not the common use of screen, but it runs very well over serial line
[01:53] <loko555> delire: there must be a reason that the "root-directory" is read-protected to all other users except root
[01:53] <Rei_ayanami> can someone help me figure out a network card to router problem?
[01:53] <delire> loko555: to lock down a directory for a user just 'sudo chmod ugo-r /path/to/dir' and that will remove readability for user, group and other.
[01:53] <zyclop> Rei_ayanami: probably. tell me more
[01:54] <POVaddct> erUSUL: actually, screen has a better terminal emulation than minicom
[01:54] <loko555> delire: that is not the point, the point is that even root-dir is read-protected you can read it's content with locate-command
[01:54] <Rei_ayanami> he has the nic set to dhcp as well as the router
[01:54] <delire> loko555: hmm i don't know. on Debian i've been able to ls /root/ from $USER for around 8 years ;)
[01:54] <Jolted> Heh long morning.. Ended up chewing up grub when deleting my secondary partition with Edgy in it
[01:54] <Rei_ayanami> it is seeing the nic fine
[01:54] <Rei_ayanami> but he can't get online couse the router needs a username and pass to acess it
[01:54] <delire> loko555: yes, i suppose there is a contradiction there.
[01:54] <Stormx2> folks, is 128mb VRAM considered hi/med/lo-end nowerdays?
[01:54] <Rei_ayanami> there is a command that was found but it only asks for the password
[01:54] <loko555> ok, i'll post it in the forum
[01:55] <delire> loko555: still, you can't read any of the files using updatedb or find, so much as simply know whether they exist.
[01:55] <Lemino> hi, anyone who knows why eye of gnome freezes my system after displaying a few images in fullscreen?
[01:55] <zyclop> Rei_ayanami: I think its the password you got from your ISP
[01:55] <loko555> delire: thats true
[01:56] <Rei_ayanami> tryin it brb
[01:56] <erUSUL> POVaddct: good to know... but i was talking about things like transfer protocols kermit, xmodem etc. you can configure minicom to use helper programs to this transfer programs...
[01:56] <Jolted> Am trying to figure out how i want to partition my boot drive ... Am thinking i want Dapper partition, /home, Edgy, Swap
[01:56] <lostinc> If I recompile gnome for the i686 or K7 will I see a performance increase?
[01:56] <lophyte> anyone know how to recover deleted files in ext3?
[01:57] <POVaddct> erUSUL: okay, file transfer is missing in screen. but as a terminal emulator i prefer it over minicom.
[01:57] <ys76> Was somebody able to get the wireless chipset in a Fujitsu-Siemens L1310g working? (ifconfig/iwconfig shows ath0, but I am not able to assosiate with an accesspoint, even via cli)
[01:57] <Jolted> Or do i want Dapper, /home, Edgy, /home2, swap
[01:57] <mcphail> Jolted: sharing $HOME is a bad idea
[01:58] <delire> lophyte: hmm, it's a bit rough. were they deleted with rm?
[01:58] <lophyte> delire: no, mv
[01:58] <Jolted> I was gonna have Edgy use home on its own partition...
[01:58] <Jolted> i know sharing $home is a bad idea for two distros
[01:59] <delire> lophyte: right, well can't you just rename the file you mv'd with mv?
[01:59] <TheMafia> what is the root passwd on a default install?
[01:59] <delire> lophyte: anyway, people say good things about this: http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm though it's proprietary.
[01:59] <mcphail> Jolted: config files can change quite a lot between versions. As will installed software etc
[01:59] <lostinc> Is there a gnome 2.16 on its way
[01:59] <Jolted> So im really better off not splitting home at all
[02:00] <lophyte> delire: I mv'd them somewhere and then lost them
[02:00] <fabH> hello
[02:00] <mcphail> Jolted: i'd say that would save you a headache
[02:00] <IndyBC> the program name "dpkg" stands for "debian package" ?
[02:01] <Jolted> So it be more like the way i originally had it.... dapper, Edgy, swap, and each partition has its own copy of home
[02:01] <fabH> I have trouble with mysql-server, I don't think it read my /etc/mysql/my.cnf file
[02:01] <TheMafia> what is the root passwd on a default install?
[02:01] <engla> !rootsudo
[02:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:01] <delire> lophyte: oh, so you don't know where they are? you could try a 'sudo updatedb; locate name-of-your-file'. you could also hit CTRL-r in the terminal you mv'd them in, and type 'mv'. that will give you the last mv command you did in that terminal (or just use the up-arrows).
[02:01] <IndyBC> !apt-zip-list
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-zip-list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <Jolted> there is no password set by default, but you can sudo and add one
[02:01] <lophyte> delire: no, I lost them as in the directory I mv'd them to is gone
[02:01] <mcphail> Jolted: that would be fine. An alternative would be to have a $HOME/documents partition which is shared between distros
[02:02] <delire> lophyte: right, so you rm -fr the directory?
[02:02] <Jolted> mc.. That actually sounds like a better idea...
[02:02] <internat> i keep getting perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[02:02] <internat> any ideas how to fix that
[02:02] <lophyte> delire: I was doing the tutorial on storing your gpg keys on an encrypted fs on a USB key..
[02:02] <Jolted> Better than mounting the whole second distro
[02:03] <lophyte> delire: but the filesystem I created is gone for some reason
[02:03] <Schalken> Quicksilva: I dont know about gFTP, but you can open a secure ftp connection with sftp://... (ftp through an ssh tunnel) or ftps://... (secure ftp using ssl)
[02:04] <delire> lophyte: hmm, well it doesn't look good really. there is very little in the way of ext3 recovery, without prior backup.
[02:04] <Schalken> Schalken: lol, no one read that, did they? (was replying to a question for >1h ago :p )
[02:04] <TheMafia> apt-get install 915resolution tells me it can't find it, I am new with apt-get so what do I do now?
[02:04] <lophyte> oi.
[02:04] <lophyte> delire: unless I can recover the encrypted fs.. but I don't know what the problem is
[02:04] <delire> lophyte: where _should_ this fs be?
[02:05] <zyclop> TheMafia: do you have multiverse enabled?
[02:05] <mcphail> lophyte: photorec can recover certain types of files from ext3
[02:05] <delire> on the usb stick or in $HOME?
[02:05] <delire> mcphail: yes, but only images doesn't it?
[02:05] <TheMafia> zyclop, no because I have no idea what that is
[02:05] <mcphail> delire: not at all
[02:05] <zyclop> !sources.lst
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <delire> mcphail: ahh, i see it now does audio and video also.
[02:05] <mcphail> delire: and .doc and .exe etc
[02:06] <delire> mcphail: nice..
[02:06] <zyclop> TheMafia: well, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:06] <delire> mcphail: lophyte's problem is that he seems to have lost his encrypted fs altogether.
[02:06] <lophyte> delire: its in a file called disk.img on my USB drive... but when I try to mount it, it says bad fs
[02:06] <delire> lophyte: ahah.. what is the exact error output?
[02:06] <lophyte> delire: and gparted says there's no partitions on it
[02:06] <mcphail> delire: aah
[02:07] <deresh> hi does anyone has problems with "invisible" or not refreshing fonts in edgy
[02:08] <mcphail> deresh: you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <zyclop> TheMafia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[02:08] <delire> lophyte: you might want to check it's not already mounted. perhaps type 'mount' and see if it there. if so, then 'sudo umount -l /path/to/usbtick'
[02:09] <deresh>  mcphail: thanks i haven't know of this chanell
[02:09] <lophyte> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/usbkey,
[02:09] <lophyte>        missing codepage or other error
[02:09] <delire> lophyte: them remount it manually.
[02:09] <lophyte> its not mounted
[02:09] <mcphail> deresh: np. most people in here are on dapper
[02:09] <delire> lophyte: mount it and run an fsck /dev/mapper/usbkey
[02:10] <delire> lophyte: by the way, is that really the name for your mountpoint?
[02:10] <Rei_ayanami> zyclop: ty problem fixed and the friend i was helping will likely be in to thank you as well
[02:10] <longwave> can anyone recommend a simple way of doing a one-off mailshot to a few hundred email addresses?
[02:10] <lophyte> the mountpoint? no, the mountpoint is /mnt/encrypted.. the fs is /dev/mapper/usbkey
[02:10] <longwave> i've looked at mailman and all the other mailing list packages but they are pretty complex for what i need
[02:10] <zyclop> Rei_ayanami: np
[02:10] <Quicksilva> Schalken: sry to be a pain but could you give me an example like with sftp://
[02:10] <delire> longwave: it's probably possible with sendmail. i use mutt, which also makes this possible i believe.
[02:11] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[02:11] <delire> longwave: right, so it doesn't mount at all..
[02:11] <Quicksilva> sftp://address:port:username:pass
[02:11] <Quicksilva> I'm useless :(
[02:12] <lophyte> fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/mapper/usbkey
[02:12] <erUSUL> P3L|C4N0: hi!
[02:12] <lophyte> arrr.. this is as good as gone
[02:12] <sfar> ubotu: tell me about compiz
[02:12] <freaky_> Quicksilva: never used sftp, but with ftp it's ftp://user:pass@host:port
[02:12] <P3L|C4N0> erUSUL, ;)
[02:12] <sfar> ubotu: tell sfar about compiz
[02:12] <webguy> how do i set up one user on ubuntu to have two seperate mailboxes?
[02:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Zyclop, i FREAKING LOVE YOU MAN!
[02:12] <delire> Quicksilva: perhaps it'd be easier just to use 'Connect To Remote Server' in Places (if i remember the name correctly)?
[02:12] <Rei_ayanami> and there he is
[02:13] <delire> hehe
[02:13] <Rei_ayanami> your welcome viri
[02:13] <longwave> Quicksilva: i think you can use sftp://user@host:port/ - i don't know if you are allowed to include passwords in there directly or not
[02:13] <Rei_ayanami> your so lucky i was bored
[02:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> if youre ever in my area, i dont care if youre the size of a freaking sumo wrestler, im blowing you dude.
[02:13] <erUSUL> lophyte: you've formated an usdbkey as ext3?
[02:13] <zyclop> ISOLATEDViRuS: so you're the one , Rei was helping?
[02:13] <Rei_ayanami> BAKANE
[02:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yeah
[02:13] <Rei_ayanami> yes he is
[02:13] <freaky_> ISOLATEDViRuS: err plz move to #gay :D
[02:13] <Rei_ayanami> he also has NO tact or common sence
[02:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS> lol freaky_ ;)
[02:14] <lophyte> erUSUL: no, I formatted a disk image file on my usbkey as ext3.
[02:14] <Rei_ayanami> now don't act like a retard here
[02:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS> dude, youll never guess what i was doing wrong.
[02:14] <Rei_ayanami> they can help you with your new os
[02:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS> biggest noob move ever
[02:14] <zyclop> let's stay on topic now
[02:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> it was like "Username:" "Password:" and i forgot to delete the part that said username & password
[02:15] <zyclop> lol
[02:16] <Dimensions> hi ... can any one tell me how can i completely remove mac os and install ubuntu atm i have a mac mini on which i could only manage to install ubuntu as second OS ... is it possible to remove mac os completely and install ubuntu as only OS on it ?
[02:16] <zyclop> well, stuff like that just happens. Not your fault.
[02:16] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i just switched from windows, im tired of that crap crashing and giving me BSOD
[02:16] <engla> Dimensions: absolutely. Did you install with the desktop cd?
[02:16] <ISOLATEDViRuS> im going to hand around in here, i know im going to have issues in about 20 mins. we'll get to know each other very intimately ;P
[02:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hang*
[02:17] <webguy> how do i set up one user on ubuntu to have two seperate mailboxes?
[02:17] <pluma> ISOLATEDViRuS: Oh, if it only were the BSODs. I'm sick of having my desktop lock up whenever the file Explorer crashes for some random reason.
[02:17] <wirelain> question: I'm using ubuntu (drake) desktop, i installed peercast from the add/remove ... but can't get peercast links to work. Anyone know of any gotchyas in the peercast setup?
[02:18] <zyclop> well, before you ask, better check out https://help.ubuntu.com/ if your question already was answered. Saves all of us a lot of trouble.
[02:19] <god_> Hey guys!
[02:19] <Loevborg> I can connect to an SMB share using smbclient, but it doesn't work w/ nautilus. Any ideas how I can debug?
[02:19] <bit_doidao> Loevborg, try tail -f /var/log/syslog both on server and client
[02:20] <bit_doidao> if you have access to the server :P
[02:20] <maina> hello guys
[02:21] <Loevborg> bit_doidao, client doesn't give me anything, server isn't avaiable
[02:21] <Loevborg> s/\w*$/accessible/
[02:21] <god_> im having a problem getting my mysql database to start, i keep getting an error saying the socket doesnt exist. I havent changed any setting or anything, its just suddenly stopped working. Anyone know what the problem could be?
[02:22] <bit_doidao> Loevborg, did you see /var/log/samba also?
[02:22] <maina> does anyone knows how i can get activation key for win xp sp 1a meant for dell but install in another machine not dell
[02:22] <bit_doidao> maina, only linux question here, sorry :)
[02:22] <Loevborg> bit_doidao, no such file
[02:22] <wirelain> maina: 404
[02:22] <zyclop> maina: wrong channel and bad grammar
[02:23] <bit_doidao> Loevborg, tail -f  /var/log/samba/log. [press tab twice]  and choose you log :)
[02:23] <Quicksilva> longwave: can i pm?
[02:23] <Loevborg> bit_doidao, I have no such files, sorry (they're probably server-related)
[02:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> question... how do i get my mp3's to play, is there an update i need or something, and on that now... how DO i update?
[02:24] <bit_doidao> Loevborg, yes sure! sorry :P
[02:24] <John[1] > When we expect to see a release a dapper that is fixed?
[02:24] <Jolted> so to have Dapper, Edgy, $HOME/Documents, swap, what would i set the mount points to in the installer (for Dapper, then edgy)
[02:24] <mcphail> John[1] : when what is fixed?
[02:24] <void^> !mp3
[02:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:25] <void^> ^ ISOLATEDViRuS
[02:25] <zyclop> ISOLATEDViRuS: that's one of the questions that are answered in many faqs
[02:25] <bit_doidao> ISOLATEDViRuS, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:25] <mcphail> Jolted: i'd just leave the documents partiton unmounted/formatted for now and do that post-install
[02:25] <John[1] > I cannot get the desktop installed in dapper due to a bug.
[02:25] <Jolted> Ah ok..
[02:25] <mcphail> Jolted: it is fixed already
[02:26] <mcphail> sorry John[1] 
[02:26] <John[1] > Where can I download the lastest dapper server install, I would like to start from scratch.
[02:26] <John[1] > And what is the file name?
[02:26] <John[1] > Please
[02:26] <Dimensions> yes eger ...
[02:27] <god_> anyone able to help me out with gettin mySql running again?
[02:27] <zyclop> Hohn[1] : http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:27] <Jolted> mcphal, problem is dappers installer is bitching that im not creating a mount point for the created partition.. just set em to unformatted and start again?
[02:28] <mcphail> Jolted: yes,try that. rather pedantic of the installer...
[02:28] <John[1] > I noticed that this has the same file name as the one I downloaded a couple days ago.
[02:29] <mcphail> John[1] : the .sio will not have changed. The system is updated by downloading new packages post-install
[02:29] <mcphail> *iso
[02:31] <dalila> if i install for testing xubuntu-destop is there a way to cleanly remove it if i decide not to use it ? i have an old desktop and want to see if speed would make a diff using it
[02:32] <John[1] > Okay then I will run the update and see what happens.
[02:32] <dalila> old laptop  i meant
[02:32] <dalila> what was that wirelain ........
[02:33] <MtJB> what broke X
[02:33] <drpc> hi
[02:33] <dalila> MtJB: xsaerver-org update
[02:33] <daurnimator> hi all
[02:33] <dalila> xserver  correction
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
[02:33] <drpc> Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
[02:33] <drpc> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:33] <drpc> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:33] <vic732> ubuntu is great.
[02:33] <drpc> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:33] <drpc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:33] <MtJB> dalila  is there a fix other than retrograding?
[02:33] <drpc>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is no
[02:33] <dalila> yes
[02:33] <drpc> when i install kde desktop
[02:33] <John[1] > Getting the same errors I got yesterday aboit failed to fetch http://yada.yada and wnat to keep hiting my cd drive.
[02:33] <drpc> i get this
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[02:33] <drpc> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
[02:33] <drpc> Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
[02:33] <drpc> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:34] <MtJB> dalila:  what is it, please?
[02:34] <drpc> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:34] <drpc> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:34] <drpc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:34] <drpc>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is no
[02:34] <dalila> read topic somewere in there is the link
[02:34] <daurnimator> ok, i installed ubuntu yesterday, but now, when i start up, X has an error. - I don't know whether is the widespread issue, or my own fiddling (i fiddled ALOT)
[02:34] <MtJB> all i see there is back up to previous version
[02:34] <dalila> i can send you  the file but let me see if i find the link
[02:35] <drpc> can help me plz
[02:35] <drpc> when i instal kde desktop i get this
[02:35] <drpc> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:35] <drpc> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[02:35] <drpc> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
[02:35] <drpc> Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
[02:35] <drpc> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:36] <drpc> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:36] <drpc> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:36] <drpc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:36] <drpc>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is no
[02:36] <iwkse> hi all. I'm having problem in creating a Windows share connection from gnome..I create the connecting but when i click to open it nothing happend...there's a way to log it and understand whats the problem?
[02:37] <drpc> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:37] <drpc> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[02:37] <drpc> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
[02:37] <drpc> Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
[02:37] <drpc> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:37] <drpc> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:37] <drpc> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:37] <drpc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:37] <drpc>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is no
[02:38] <webguy> when i run crontab on a php script I get this error: Warning: include(../dbConnect.inc.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/mainaact/httpdocs/cron/emailDownloadSent.php on line 65  >>> any ideas what might be wrong
[02:38] <dalila> MtJB: did you get the file or went to thel ink
[02:38] <rayna> 0
[02:38] <erUSUL> !paste > drpc
[02:39] <John[1] > It keeps hitting my cd rom drive for updates.
[02:39] <dalila> should be here but the update should have it alreasdy this was yest http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server/
[02:41] <aLPHa_LeaK>  hi
[02:41] <John[1] > which xorg do you apply and do I burn this to cd and use instead of the cd in my drive now?
[02:41] <drpc> ok erUSUL
[02:41] <drpc> help
[02:42] <dalila> drpc what help do u need
[02:42] <DoubleHP> hi; system have been installed with EN locales; after tweaking /etc/profile most applications have messages in my mother langage (FR), but some windows headers and system messages are still in english; how can I get more things translated in _my_ locale ?
[02:42] <drpc> when i install kde desktop
[02:42] <drpc> i get this
[02:43] <drpc> Reading package lists... Done
[02:43] <drpc> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:43] <drpc> Reading extended state information
[02:43] <drpc> Initializing package states... Done
[02:43] <drpc> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:43] <drpc> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be install
[02:43] <dalila> did you try sudo apt-get update;apt-getinstall  kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <erUSUL> drpc: do not paste here, please!!! use a pastebin as ubotu told you already
[02:44] <drpc> yes
[02:44] <erUSUL> !paste > drpc
[02:44] <erUSUL> !paste
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:44] <drpc> ok man
[02:44] <drpc> im sorry
[02:44] <drpc> :(
[02:46] <DoubleHP> !tell drpc about paste
[02:46] <DoubleHP> !tell me about paste
[02:46] <cd_rom> when i update my package i got this  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/ connect (111 Connection refused)
[02:46] <DoubleHP> !tell DoubleHP about paste
[02:47] <DoubleHP> erUSUL: this ^^^^^^^^^ works :)
[02:47] <cd_rom> any idea how can i fix this cause it's gettig into my nerve now
[02:47] <cd_rom> plz
[02:47] <erUSUL> !paste > erUSUL
[02:48] <erUSUL> DoubleHP: this too ^^^
[02:48] <prower> cd_rom: I'd wait until later and try again, could just be a server problem
[02:48] <cd_rom> prower: it has been like this for nearly a week now
[02:48] <_azrael__> Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the broken xorg even got shipped in the first place?
[02:48] <cd_rom> tha't why it's getting into my nerve
[02:48] <cd_rom> that*
[02:48] <iwkse> http://rafb.net/paste/results/hVuNDJ70.html
[02:49] <iwkse> iwkse: sorry, wrong press
[02:49] <John[1] > I have downloaded the fix for xorg it had a .deb extention.  How do I use that to update my dapper system.  Do I burn it to a cd or what?
[02:49] <jpjacobs> cd_rom,maybe try another mirror
[02:49] <cd_rom> jpjacobs: how to? edit source list?
[02:49] <prower> John[1] : You should also have gotten the fixed package if you ran apt-get update recently
[02:49] <madmax> hello there... i have a problem... ubuntu didn't start gdm because x didn't detect any devices to use
[02:50] <vgoltser> if windows can access a system on the network by doing \\servername, how can the same system be accessed from ubuntu?
[02:50] <jpjacobs> cd_rom, indeed and also see !sourceomatic
[02:50] <erUSUL> vgoltser: smbclient -L \\servername ??
[02:51] <jpjacobs> !sourceomatic
[02:51] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:51] <vgoltser> I believe that it has something to do with DNS ... my DNS settings look proper
[02:51] <erUSUL> !samba > vgoltser
[02:51] <John[1] > I have ran that command over and over and nothing ahhpnes
[02:51] <John[1] > happens
[02:51] <cd_rom> jpjacobs: the webiste that automatic create the sourcelist?
[02:51] <cd_rom> :)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> madmax: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:51] <vgoltser> erSUL, any idea on setting up SWAT? I set it up on my ubuntu system and it would not work ...
[02:51] <doublehp_> hello doublehp_
[02:51] <Maguire21> Hi
[02:52] <madmax> i did lspci and my radeon is detected as PCI:1:0:0 but x get to somewhere about PCI:0:20:0 and doesn't see PCI:1:0:0
[02:52] <DoubleHP> hmmm
[02:52] <vgoltser> !swat
[02:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:52] <erUSUL> vgoltser: no sorry i do not have a lan at home... never played much with samba and/or nfs
[02:52] <Maguire21> can i use the 686 kernel for an amd athlon x2 4200? because the k7 is not running on my box
[02:52] <madmax> gnomefreak: i'll try
[02:52] <madmax> is there a console irc client i could use? i'm in windows now :(
[02:53] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i have a question, once the packages are done downloading, how do i install them or are they automatically installed on the system?
[02:53] <ISOLATEDViRuS> whoa... dejavu..
[02:53] <dalila> usb mouse not working i get this msg when i plug it in  Aug 23 08:46:40 dalila-laptop kernel: [17268059.352000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
[02:53] <gnomefreak> madmax: it should update xserver-xorg-core than restart X and you should be able to open X
[02:53] <erUSUL> Maguire21: yes you can
[02:54] <vgoltser> also, if I try to ping the server by the servername ... it does not get resolved
[02:54] <Maguire21> oh great thanks
[02:54] <gnomefreak> madmax: console irc client would be irssi installed by default
[02:54] <John[1] > I have ran apt-get update and I'm back to where I started, x will not start.
[02:54] <madmax> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:55] <gnomefreak> John[1] : run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core and tell me what version is installed?
[02:55] <prower> ISOLATEDViRuS: If you went through the usual updating procedure, and there weren't any problems, then the downloaded packages should have replaced the old ones and installed
[02:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok cool, thanks man.
[02:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so i just reboot and its good to go?
[02:55] <erUSUL> vgoltser: i take that you tried Places>Network Places/Servers
[02:55] <dalila> usb mouse not working i get this msg when i plug it in  Aug 23 08:46:40 dalila-laptop kernel: [17268059.352000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
[02:56] <prower> ISOLATEDViRuS: You should only have to reboot if something significant was upgraded, like the version of the kernel that you're using :> Everything else can be stopped and started in one way or another without rebooting...but you can do it either way really
[02:56] <Dimensions> hi .. how do i call a script in .bash_profile ?
[02:56] <erUSUL> dalila: the msg seems from the touchpad not the mouse... can you post the output of lsusb in pastebin?
[02:57] <LittleLion> Hi. Where I add Ubuntu desktop disk installer bugs? Or alternate disk bugs?
[02:57] <erUSUL> prower: upgrading hald does need a reboot too..
[02:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS> alright, well my friend gave me the ubuntu disc and hes had it for over a year now, so i think the kernal probably got updated
[02:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ill restart just to be safe, no harm done.
[02:58] <prower> erUSUL: Ahh, okay...yeah, there's no real harm in rebooting it anyway, it's just not necessary for some things :>
[02:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> then i need to start on getting that wiggly windows groove on, and the box thing too.
[02:58] <John[1] > I get the following, installed: none and then it giver ver table and 2 websites
[02:58] <park_canada> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[02:59] <kyja> why cant I format dvd+rw ?
[02:59] <kyja> and why is it gnomebaker wont work but graveman does sort of.
[02:59] <munsa> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me, I have a big list of .deb's that I downloaded from the channels. I saved them from the /var/something or other/archives, how can I make them into a repo so I can install them ???
[03:00] <mikeconcepts> somebody pls give me a link to a free way to move my ubuntu install from this small 4 gig drive to a larger one
[03:00] <rage> Is it possible to get the windows key to behave as a modifier key and just as a key on its own? I'm trying to replicate some Windows key bindings where pressing the windows key will bring up the panel, and still be able to use modifier combinations like win + c to bring up a calculator
[03:00] <dalila> erUSUL: my mistake is not a usb mouse serial
[03:00] <rage> ?
[03:00] <dalila> erUSUL: actual ps
[03:01] <kyja> munsa: .deb are double clickable to install.
[03:01] <John[1] > This is like a MAD house in here!!!
[03:01] <munsa> Kyja, yes, I know. But when you have 2000 of them each with 100 dependancys, i will be clicking forever
[03:02] <rukuartic> Is there any difference between the server install CD and the Desktop CD? I seem to remember being able to slect a Server install on the desktop CD.
[03:02] <webguy> every time the cron runs it over writes the log - is there a way to make it append
[03:02] <frahi> mikeconcepts: you can just copy it with the cp command with some parameters
[03:02] <webguy> i have a script running from cron ....  cron line sample  * * * * * somescript.php > script.log
[03:02] <frahi> i guess -a
[03:02] <dalila> erUSUL: did u copy
[03:02] <freaky_> webguy: * * * * *? what time is that?
[03:02] <frahi> mikeconcepts: and then you have to edit the /etc/fstab and the bootmanager
[03:02] <webguy> every minuts
[03:02] <mikeconcepts> frahi: link?
[03:02] <kyja> John[1] : mmm. yeah. I get mad that I asked the same question the last 3 days with no answer. not even egknolegment
[03:02] <madmax> gnomefreak: it worked... it got xcore and now i'm in gnome again:) thank you
[03:02] <freaky_> webguy: ain't that */1 * * * * ?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> yw madmax
[03:02] <webguy> that works too
[03:03] <frahi> mikeconcepts: sorry, i have no link
[03:03] <webguy> anyways any idea how to make it append?
[03:03] <munsa> Can anyone help me make a repository out of alot of .deb files I havE?
[03:03] <freaky_> webguy: sure, > overwrites, >> adds
[03:03] <mikeconcepts> frahi: thks, will research it
[03:03] <John[1] > I'm still trying to get xorg running
[03:03] <Loevborg> samba gives me: "authorise_login: rejected invalid user nobody" when connecting from ubuntu to a debian server
[03:03] <BHSPitLappy> hey, problem: (wired) networking has stopped working on my ubuntu desktop
[03:03] <webguy> cool thanks freaky_
[03:03] <erUSUL> dalila: yes a read; it is ps and it is not working? did you reconfigure X...
[03:03] <MtJB> xorg is nice to have if you're running kde or gnome
[03:03] <freaky_> webguy: np
[03:03] <BHSPitLappy> I have 2 eth cards, neither will connect
[03:04] <dalila> erUSUL: no
[03:04] <rukuartic> BHSPitLappy: Does the network work on another computer? (Checking for problems other than your computer)
[03:04] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i identify if i have dapper or breezy?
[03:04] <park_canada> Hi, i can't change my language on the keyboard layout (the keys that switch layout). whenever i try it on the keyboard manager i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21280 I also re-installed xkbcomp,xmodmaputilities, libxklavier but it didnt help. can u help me with that?
[03:04] <webguy> freaky_:  how about throwning inthe time time and date beofre it appends?
[03:04] <BHSPitLappy> rukuartic, yes, I can unplug that eth cable and plug it into my laptop, and it'll work.
[03:04] <dalila> erUSUL: how do i reconfigure x
[03:04] <Dimensions> guys how can i add a script call in .bash_profile ?
[03:04] <freaky_> webguy: do like: date >> /path/to/file; myphp.php >> /path/to/file
[03:05] <freaky_> webguy: that should do it
[03:05] <erUSUL> dalila: dalila afaik ps mouse are not "hotplug" you may need to reconfigure x or even reboot to make sure that the kernel sees the mouse... to reconf X try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:05] <John[1] > Could someone help me one on one to help me fix my problem?
[03:06] <erUSUL> John[1] : Updated and fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the  system with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'. To make sure that your mirror has the new version do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'apt-cache policy  xserver-xorg-core' and check that the candidate is 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:07] <munsa> dalila sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver  i think
[03:07] <freaky_> webguy: to make it more readable, something like: echo -e '\n-----------------------------\n'`date`'\n-----------------------------\n'
[03:07] <BHSPitLappy> is xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 safe?
[03:07] <munsa> Anyone know how to make your own repositorys
[03:07] <munsa> ??
[03:08] <webguy> thanks!
[03:08] <John[1] > I ran the command and I have the 1:1.0.2 Obuntu 10.4 but it says it is not installed
[03:08] <munsa> I have a biunch of debs I want to put into a repo
[03:08] <Thunderpants> BHSPitLappy, no
[03:08] <dalila> is it possible just to reconfigure mouse without doing entrie xserver  i dont want to mess to much with tihs
[03:08] <BHSPitLappy> munsa, there's a howto in ubuntuforums.org
[03:08] <dalila> John[1] : i dont have the link for the xserver file but i can send you the file if you want
[03:08] <BHSPitLappy> munsa, try a search there?
[03:08] <pd222> How do I change the font size and icon size in the desktop ?
[03:09] <dalila> sys/preferences
[03:09] <BHSPitLappy> Thunderpants, ah, is 10.4 the good one?
[03:09] <Thunderpants> yes BHSPitLappy
[03:09] <BHSPitLappy> thanks
[03:09] <Thunderpants> yw
[03:09] <shawnr_> pd222, system>prefs>file management
[03:10] <pd222> shawnr_: I cant see the option file management
[03:10] <shawnr_> pd222, the desktop is actually a folder (of file) so you need to set nautilus folder zoom icon properties
[03:10] <shawnr_> pd222, Application>Acce>Menu Editor
[03:10] <dalila> ill try later htg
[03:11] <munsa> where is the sources.list file stored?
[03:11] <pd222> shawnr_: am checking it out now
[03:11] <munsa> for the repos?
[03:11] <webguy> nice freaky_
[03:11] <munsa> /etc/??
[03:11] <rukuarti1> BHSPitLappy: Sorry, got disconnectred
[03:11] <munsa> i forget
[03:11] <shawnr_> pd222, look for Prefs>File Management   and check the box.. then close
[03:11] <BHSPitLappy> rukuarti1, yes, I can unplug that eth cable and plug it into my laptop, and it'll work.
[03:12] <pd222> shawnr_: ok did that
[03:12] <pd222> ok got it now
[03:12] <rukuarti1> BHSPitLappy: can you /msg me what happens when you type "ifconfig" in a terminal?
[03:12] <frahi> BHSPitLappy: check if /var/log/messages contains some kernel failures
[03:12] <rukuarti1> frahi: oh, didja steal the problem? :P
[03:12] <shawnr_> pd222, the desktop is actually a folder (of file) so you need to set nautilus folder zoom icon properties
[03:12] <pd222> shawnr_: thanks i got it to shrink now
[03:13] <MasterShadow> puh
[03:13] <pd222> I also have one more size problem. In thunderbird, gaim etc, the font size is too huge, how can i reduce it too
[03:13] <bit_doidao> its safe now to update the xserver-core?
[03:13] <SkimO> Hi!, anyone running over a Toshiba satellite? I need xorg.conf file please
[03:13] <John[1] > <erUSUL> I did that and it says just what you asked me to check.
[03:13] <Thunderpants> bit_doidao, check its 10.4
[03:13] <rukuarti> SkimO: Sure thing mate
[03:13] <SkimO> bit_doidao: backup your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[03:14] <John[1] > now what
[03:14] <SkimO> rukuarti can you dcc send me the file please?
[03:14] <rukuarti> SkimO: workin' on it
[03:14] <SkimO> thanks!
[03:14] <BHSPitLappy> frahi, doesn't look like it.
[03:15] <rukuarti> !paste
[03:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:15] <kashual> lol
[03:15] <r000t> after i upgraded X my screensaver kills it ass soon as it starts. I have downgraded x but without effect
[03:15] <YeTr2> what tools are there for burning mdf/mds images to disk?
[03:15] <John[1] > hello <erUSUL>
[03:15] <r000t> someone know of this problem
[03:15] <sorush20> hi guys how do I install the xorg sources?
[03:15] <freegan-bh> Trying to install Soundblaster awe64 ISA on a P100. When the sb module loads, isapnp detects it, but insmod says No such device, and it locks up my keyboard and mouse and I have to reset. Answers like "buy a new one" or "throw it out" aren't welcome. Help anyone?
[03:16] <rukuarti> SkimO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21473
[03:16] <SkimO> thanks! brb!!
[03:16] <pd222> I got my font sizes also to reduce system -> Pref -> Font :)
[03:16] <_azrael__> sorush20: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[03:17] <eternalswd> is it possible to wildcard a remote port for ssh tunneling?
[03:17] <BHSPitLappy> rukuarti, only lo shows up there
[03:17] <rukuarti> BHSPitLappy: sorry, having problems here ><
[03:17] <eternalswd> or is there a better channel to ask in?
[03:17] <rukuarti> BHSPitLappy: try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[03:17] <daurnimator>  ARG
[03:17] <daurnimator> damn BHSPitLappy
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> eternalswd, there is a dynamic port option you can use, which will create a simple socks5 proxy port on your side.
[03:18] <rukuarti> BHSPitLappy: /msg me "ifconfig -a" as well :p
[03:19] <freegan-bh> No one?
[03:20] <pd222> Is there a gui tool for bluetooth file browsing
[03:21] <fyrestrtr> pd222: gnome-bluetooth ?
[03:22] <pd222> hmm fyrestrtr
[03:22] <BHSPitLappy> rukuartic, wb
[03:22] <_azrael__> freegan-bh: I don't know how to help, but I'm curious--what exactly do you need sound for on a P100? I doubt it can even decode mp3s....
[03:22] <immolo> I was wondering does linux show hyperthreading as two cpus?
[03:22] <SkimO> rikiartic didnt worked :( it is for an Intel board, I have an ATI one, Satellite A75
[03:22] <axisme> yes
[03:22] <SkimO> anyone with a toshiba Satellite A75? I need /etc/X11/xorg.conf file please
[03:23] <[MysT] > Hi people!! Anywones knows how to run nvclock-gtk? or nvclock-qt? (i have Kubuntu dapper). Seems non of the apps/commands exist
[03:23] <frahi> SkimO: !google toshiba Satellite A75 xorg.conf
[03:23] <[MysT] > and i have allready installed
[03:23] <SkimO> frahi: already did that :P
[03:24] <SkimO> browising google over links is not good
[03:24] <kq> the other day i received an auto-update of xorg-server, and when i rebooted, gdm couldn't start because of this error "ee: no device detected - fatal error: no screens found"... i tried to restore my backup of xorg.conf, but nothing... and i already tried to reconfigure xorg-server (although i don't know if i did it right; the first time i did it with aticonfig) but it doesn't work... any idea of what i should do?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> SkimO: http://plaza.ufl.edu/redboots/
[03:24] <SkimO> kq: We are in the same here, I am starting to believe the update was broken
[03:24] <Crusader_Tech> Could someone help a Linux-Curious Tech get his nVidia 6200 working on a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> you both need to read the topic
[03:25] <Hobbsee> kq: SkimO see the /topic
[03:25] <cast> how common are bad experiences with this ntfsresize?
[03:25] <cast> Crusader_Tech: its in the wiki
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia
[03:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <kq> Hobbsee: damn it's a common thing  :/
[03:25] <SkimO> hehehe, nice topic!
[03:25] <SkimO> thanks!
[03:25] <kq> Hobbsee: thanks
[03:25] <SkimO> doing IRC over text mode is something I didnt do since 8 years ago!
[03:26] <Crusader_Tech> Well that's the problem.  I was following the instructions on the Ubuntu site, and I see all of 2 commands to do in term.  that's great, but the second one isn't working.
[03:26] <cast> SkimO: we do it all the time, us irssi users :)
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work > SkimO
[03:26] <Crusader_Tech> The first step seemed to download and install it, but the second command is giving an error about an m5d sum.  I'm assuming it's the command to actually enable the driver.
[03:26] <SkimO> cast: does mphoenix by vasaggo works with irssi ? hehehe
[03:27] <rukuartic> Does anyone know if you can do a Server install from the Desktop ISO?
[03:27] <SkimO> I will c ya all, gotta solve this fast enough!
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: which instructions are you following?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: you cannot.
[03:27] <Crusader_Tech> Let me find them, and thank you for the help.
[03:27] <Ragnaroek> sup?
[03:27] <LOLZebra> sup
[03:27] <SkimO> rukuartic: kind off...
[03:27] <rukuartic> SkimO: How so?
[03:27] <SkimO> rukuartic, install minimal, then remove packages...
[03:27] <LOLZebra> interest
[03:27] <Ragnaroek> I'll think about it
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> you can't install minimal from the desktop cd, only from the alternate dc.
[03:27] <Paradoxx> !compiz
[03:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> err, cd.
[03:28] <SkimO> ok gotta go.. c ya guys!
[03:28] <rukuartic> skiidoo: Later!
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> !away > h4ch3r
[03:28] <kq> so now there's a new package, i could fix the xorg issue by simply doing apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ?
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> kq: sure.
[03:28] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: So the server install CD, is the biggest difference no XOrg?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: no.
[03:29] <kq> fyrestrtr: thanks a lot
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: different kernels, different options, etc.
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: for a guaranteed fun time, always use the alternate cd :)
[03:29] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Eh, I'm not enough of a poweruser to know what a differenct kernel would do for me... care to enlighten me?
[03:30] <kapheroph> hello all :)
[03:30] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: Now I can't find the post.  Could you link me to the instructions, and I'll try again.
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: well for one, if you have any modern processor, you probably want a -686 kernel, which has support for SMP (that's dual processors, or hyperthreading support). The default -386 kernel is optimized for 486 machines.
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > Crusader_Tech
[03:31] <Crusader_Tech> I know windows very well, and I'm a PC Tech for a living. So I should be able to understand move of the instructions you give.
[03:31] <Crusader_Tech> *most
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> to be honest, knowing windows very well might be a disadvantage to you.
[03:31] <tom__> coucou
[03:31] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Ah, only with a 386 I think... I'll probably end up using the server install though. Would you happen to have another bit of information for me?
[03:31] <Crusader_Tech> That is true fyrestrtr.
[03:32] <freaky_> gotta run thx ttyl
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: what do you plan to use the machine for?
[03:32] <sorush20> hi what linx header should I install?
[03:32] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: I heard its dumb to mess with permissions on files (eg in /sbin)... but I'm looking for a way to let users reboot the computer from ssh... Is it possible to let that happen by setting "reboot" as a special group, then giving out group membership to those people?
[03:33] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: CounterStrike server :P its a hobby.
[03:33] <rukuartic> sorush20: The ones associated with yer kernel :P
[03:33] <selinuxium> hi all, I am looking for an ebook reader app. Any recommendations? Opening text files in gedit is a pain because you lose where you are!
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: ermmm *blink* You want people to be able to reboot? Anyone?
[03:33] <OoberMick> rukuartic: you can do this with sudo
[03:33] <rukuartic> sorush20: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" I think
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> sorush20: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:33] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Nope, people in the "reboot" group
[03:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i enable the XGL super cool stuffs?
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> !xgl > ISOLATEDViRuS
[03:34] <rukuartic> ISOLATEDViRuS: Go onto http://wiki.ubuntu.com" and search for "xgl" they have a good howto.
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> rukuartic: yes, that's one way to do it.
[03:34] <rukuartic> OoberMick: Yeah, but everytime I use visudo it whines at me. I can't get the syntax right :P
[03:34] <finalbeta> !bcm43xx
[03:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <rukuartic> fyrestrtr: Say I wanted to allow them the command "shutdown -rf now", how would I put that in /etc/sudoers ?
[03:37] <frahi> rukuartic: "frahi    ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/etherwake
[03:37] <frahi> this is a line that enables user 'frahi' to use etherwake
[03:38] <rage> Hey, is it possible to use the windows key as a modifier key and use it to bring up the gnome panel by its self? So example, pressing Windows + C will bring up a calculator and Windows button will bring up the panel?
[03:38] <frahi> there are many good examples
[03:38] <frahi> rage: yes
[03:38] <fyrestrtr> rage: windows key is mapped to 'meta' so yes.
[03:39] <rage> Mmmmm
[03:39] <rage> Well, I've mapped it to mod4
[03:39] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: Mind taking a look at that error?
[03:39] <rage> but I cant bind it to bring up the panel
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> what error?
[03:39] <rage> When its a modifier
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> when I try to install the nvidia drivers
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> sorry
[03:40] <pluto_> hello
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> except, the grand error of life......
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> command:
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> from nv to nvidia.
[03:40] <rukuartic> frahi: Thanks for that... ...now what does NOPASSWD do, just tell them that they don't need to type their password for conformation?
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> holy ....
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:40] <pluto_> does anybody of you have problems with capturing audio?
[03:40] <Crusader_Tech> ah, thx fyre, I'll get that.
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: just open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- find Driver "nv" and change it to Driver "nvidia"
[03:40] <rukuartic> pluto_: Short crazy idea... try running your program with "aoss"... might be having software mixing problems?
[03:40] <pluto_> i can hear myself on the microphone but programs cannot capture audio
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: save the file, and then restart X (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[03:41] <Crusader_Tech> thanks, i'll go do that now, if I can find it.  I'm still not used to the file system in linux
[03:41] <frahi> rukuartic: yes
[03:41] <rage> frahi and fyrestrtr: So yeah, I can either use it as the modifier or as Super_L, but I cannot get it to be a modifier and use it to launch the panel by itself
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:41] <rukuartic> Crusader_Tech: Its fairly logical once you get used to it... Its nice because its organized and what not... all the programs in /bin, etc etc.
[03:41] <rukuartic> Crusader_Tech: If you look around for "Linux file system explained" on google they'll give you a quick overrun of it.
[03:42] <Crusader_Tech> thanks rukuartic
[03:42] <Crusader_Tech> well, this put me in some kind if editor.  Man I feel like a newb
[03:43] <pluto_> nope that didn't work
[03:43] <rukuartic> Crusader_Tech: We were all newbs once. This is a friendly place though, don't worry :)
[03:43] <rage> frahi and fyrestrtr: Basically I'm trying to replicate the way Windows treats the windows key, if you're arnt familar with it. Pressing the Windows key brings up the panel, but you can also use it as a modifier key i.e Windows + C to bring up a calculator. I want to replicate this in Gnome, use it as a modifier as well as something to bring up the panel.
[03:43] <Crusader_Tech> good to hear
[03:43] <pluto_> i think some problem in alsa config
[03:43] <kartik> I have dumped ubuntu locally and want to install packages from it using ftp, how do I do that? ftp://user:pass@ipaddress/ubuntu dapper main restricted seems not working!
[03:43] <rukuartic> rage: Get xbindkeys
[03:43] <tristan__> hello all. Is it difficult to compile the kernel?
[03:43] <rage> Mmmm
[03:43] <kyja> please, I have asked many times. gnomebaker does not startup. it will in another login but not this one,. I realy need to fix it.
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: just scroll down till you see Driver "nv" -- change it to Driver "nvidia" -- then, look at the bottom of the screen, you'll see a bar with shortcuts to commands, stuff like ^O -- find the one that's for 'Write'. ^ is the ctrl key, so if its says ^O Write, hit ctrl+O
[03:44] <SkimO> change the topic for:  If your xorg is broken after a recent update, then:  apt-get upgrade
[03:44] <fyrestrtr> tristan__: normally, you don't need to do it, if you do, its not difficult.
[03:44] <chamo> kyja, have you run it in sudo once at least ?
[03:44] <pluto_> but it used to work the first time i booted to ubuntu,then from the second time...........
[03:44] <SkimO> laters
[03:44] <kyja> mmm no
[03:44] <pluto_> does anybidy know how to fix that??
[03:44] <kyja> chamo: I will try that
[03:45] <tristan__> fyrestrtr, well I would need to because ACPI for toshiba seems to not be compiled in the kernel provided with Ubuntu
[03:45] <Dimensions> how do i add a script to run as normal user on start up of ubuntu ?
[03:45] <rukuartic> rage: xbindkeys-config will help you configure it, xbindkeys will apply it. So set it to run when you login, (System>Preferences>Sessoins | Startup Programs)
[03:45] <espenel> ?
[03:45] <rukuartic> rage: It being "xbindkeys"
[03:45] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > tristan__
[03:45] <tristan__> !kernel
[03:45] <rukuartic> tristan__: if you're just trying to get the fn key to work its so not worth it.
[03:45] <rage> Okay, :-) run xbindkeys on login, gotcha :-)
[03:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:45] <kyja> I get gthread system may only be initilialized once.
[03:46] <rukuartic> ubotu: need to reboot?
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about need to reboot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <r000t> someone pls help.. as soon as my screensaver starts my whole computer hangs????
[03:46] <kyja> it is not already running.
[03:46] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: when I search the file for "NV" I get "phrase not found".
[03:46] <rukuartic> r000t: don't use a screensaver?
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: nv not NV
[03:46] <tristan__> rukuartic, and also to extend my battery life because it onlu last 1h40... I could decrease the screen luminosity
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: stuff in linux is case sensitive
[03:46] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: same thing
[03:46] <Crusader_Tech> I see that now.  still doesn't see it
[03:46] <rukuartic> tristan__: gotcha... might be worth it. But its pretty tough, as I've understood.
[03:46] <pluto_> does anybody here know how to fix alsa config?
[03:46] <pluto_> ??
[03:46] <webguy> how do i set up three different pop/imap accounts under one user?
[03:47] <mansu> hi all
[03:47] <Crusader_Tech> and to double check, I am in xorg.conf
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: scroll down to Section "Device"
[03:47] <r000t> rukuartic: is that a fix ... or a solution.. or is it dont use a dist that dont passes fixes through proper q&a
[03:47] <Crusader_Tech> I see it
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: you'll see there Driver "something" -- whatever that something is, replace it with nvidia
[03:47] <tristan__> Anyone knows if the next kernel will have toshiba ACPI compiled?
[03:47] <Crusader_Tech> it's "vesa" at the moment
[03:47] <kyja> I dont understand that. gthread?
[03:48] <rukuartic> r000t: Its a fix and a solution :P don't use a screensaver, your comp doesn't hang. Using old hardware?
[03:48] <mansu> i am a kde user and hence i would like to use kde... what is the best way to do it in ubuntu, install ubuntu and apt-get install kde or install kubuntu? but i also use some x and gnome apps.. so i need all of them
[03:48] <kyja> gthread
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: doesn't matter, just replace it :)
[03:48] <Crusader_Tech> seems the file is read only. *sigh*
[03:48] <rukuartic> mansu: Installing from the kubuntu iso would be easier, but its just as plausible to install kubuntu-desktop from apt-get.
[03:48] <r000t> rukuartic: it worked before the xorg upgrade.. i have a nvidia 6600
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: you need to open it with sudo close the program, and open it by typing this command exactly:
[03:49] <IdleOne> "gdk-imlib1 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 totem " these for packages are being held back for upgrade is this normal?
[03:49] <tristan__> mansu, I have tried both. I would advise you to do the first because you will get more programs
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> sudo pine /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <IdleOne> four*
[03:49] <r000t> rukuartic: athlon 64x2 2gb ram .. not old
[03:49] <rukuartic> r000t: Mmm... not technical on that level... Is it every screen saver or just that one?
[03:49] <sorush20> guys i keep getting this error what do I do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21474
[03:49] <r000t> rukuartic: as soon as i open screensaver properties it hangs .. and i mean the whole comp.. not only X
[03:49] <mansu> tristan__, ok will install ubuntu and then update... tht sounds good enough..
[03:50] <realist> r000t: could it be you're using opengl screensavers, without glx support enabled drivers?
[03:50] <rukuartic> r000t: never heard of that happening o-o, thats odd. like I said, not the most knowledgable user here... just following my old windows fix. if there's a problem thats too hard to fix, work around it :P
[03:50] <tristan__> mansu, after do a sudo apt-get install kde-desktop-environment and not only kde
[03:51] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: sudo: pine: command not found
[03:51] <pluto_> or better yet install kubuntu-desktop package
[03:51] <OoberMick> r000t: it sounds like your hardware is hanging. I have a similar problem with my radeon card.
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:51] <realist> r000t: otherwise it could be just driver and/or hardware issue
[03:51] <Crusader_Tech> ok.  looks like some kind of editor?
[03:51] <mansu> tristan__, will do that thx... are there any tutorials or links for this?
[03:52] <pluto_> is there a way to configure alsa?
[03:52] <r000t> realist: im usung nvidia proprietary drivers
[03:52] <tristan__> mansu, well it is not too hard. You install ubuntu, open the terminal type it and wait for the download and installation
[03:52] <pluto_> mansu just install the kubuntu-desktop package from synaptic
[03:53] <Nimwei> Where is the default make path?
[03:53] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: That one worked.  It seems to have put me into some kind of editor.
[03:53] <Nimwei> or make install
[03:53] <mansu> pluto_, thx
[03:53] <r000t> OoberMick: it started after the xorg update yesterday
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> Nimwei: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:53] <tristan__> it seems many people have troubles with the new xorg...
[03:53] <pluto_> mansu_ remember kubuntu desktop takes a lot off your broadband
[03:54] <mansu> pluto_, i am a developer, so i need the regular gcc stuff.. is there a standard package that will install all the developer tools?
[03:54] <OoberMick> r000t: and did you read the topic?
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> mansu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:54] <Nimwei> fyrestrtr: Ok, so build-essential will install make, but what will the path be once its installed?
[03:54] <mansu> pluto_,  hmm can you give me an approximate size of the kubuntu-desktop?
[03:54] <mansu> fyrestrtr, thx
[03:55] <tristan__> mansu, 500Mo I think
[03:55] <OoberMick> Nimwei: /usr/bin/make
[03:55] <realist> r000t: have you since upgraded to 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 ?
[03:55] <Nimwei> OoberMick:  Thanks
[03:55] <tristan__> mansu, for kde-desktop-environment
[03:55] <pluto_> mansu_   actually it is package which installs all the packages in kubuntu,takes about 400MB of download
[03:55] <r000t> OoberMick: that i have tries i use the old xorg and there is no difference
[03:55] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: That command seems to have opened some kind of editor i'm not familiar with.
[03:55] <mansu> tristan__, hmm thats about half my monthly limit :(
[03:55] <pluto_> mansu_ if you don't need all the software just install kdebase for the basic KDE
[03:56] <tristan__> mansu, then just install Kubuntu and not Ubuntu
[03:56] <OoberMick> r000t: old and new x.org cause the same problem but it only started yesterday?
[03:56] <realist> r000t: did you reconfigure xorg after the upgrade?
[03:56] <realist> It 'may' have clobbered your xorg.conf
[03:56] <tristan__> maybe it is even possible to install kde-desktop-environment after installing Ubuntu using a Kubuntu CD but I don't know. Others might know
[03:56] <r000t> realist: i copied over my old working xorg.conf
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> Crusader_Tech: use the arrow keys to scroll, find the line, change it, then look at the bottom for commands. The ^ symbol means the ctrl key. Find the command to save or write. If it says ^O Write, hit ctrl+O
[03:57] <mansu> pluto_, yeah will do that probably, or will look for a kind soul who will provide me with some b/w
[03:57] <r000t> OoberMick: exactly
[03:57] <Crusader_Tech> Thanks fyre
[03:57] <realist> r000t: have you tried glxinfo etc?
[03:57] <r000t> nope
[03:57] <lale> hello all
[03:57] <r000t> realist: im pretty sure it has to do with gl..
[03:57] <lale> I have problems burning DVDs
[03:57] <lale> with k3b
[03:57] <jpjacobs> !mbr
[03:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <r000t> realist:  do i fix it
[03:58] <pluto_> mansu_ you'll also need to install gtk2-qt-engine to render gtk apps (i.e with smooth borders....)
[03:58] <OoberMick> r000t: sounds like realist may be on the right path. Do you have backup of xorg.conf?
[03:58] <[b] urk> Is there a way to send mail from terminal in ubuntu?
[03:58] <realist> OoberMick: they'd copied over their old working config though
[03:59] <r000t> OoberMick: already restored it when i downgraded my xorg. .. to my old working one
[03:59] <lale> k3b burns the DVD, says it's all OK, but then I am not able to mount the DVD neither on my ubuntu PC nor on others.  This is a DELL latitude D610... Can anyone point me to a solution?
[03:59] <lale> burning under windows works
[03:59] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: Maybe i'm not ready for this.  I can't even move around in this editor.
[03:59] <pluto_> lale_ have you tried burning with gnomebaker?
[04:00] <lale> not yet
[04:00] <Crusader_Tech> fyrestrtr: Arrow keys dont do anything.
[04:00] <realist> I guess when you stop X, make sure the nvidia-glx kernel module actually unloads
[04:00] <lale> but don't they use the same backend?
[04:00] <r000t> OoberMick: lots of people on another channel had the sam problems with x and got so pissed off they changed dist
[04:00] <realist> rmmod nvidia=glx
[04:00] <realist> modprobe nvidia-glx
[04:00] <mansu> pluto_, will do that also
[04:00] <lale> pluto_: I don't have many other DVD to kill
[04:01] <lale> pluto_: :-(
[04:01] <pluto_> lale_,oh
[04:01] <OoberMick> r000t: perhaps you should try reinstalling the nvidia stuff. I don't have an nvidia card but it sounds like the problem lies there
[04:01] <OLhome> xgl option when installing ubuntu now?
[04:01] <realist> r000t: also, make sure you're running xserver-xorg-core/dapper uptodate 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[04:01] <webguy> how do i set up three different pop/imap accounts under one user?
[04:01] <lale> pluto_: I remember having read something about that problem but I can not really find the document again... :8
[04:02] <realist> OLhome: I wouldn't recommend running it on older hardware, or production systems...
[04:02] <r000t> OoberMick: already tried that :)
[04:02] <pluto_> lale_,isn't k3b a seperate application?gnomebaker is just a front end
[04:02] <Luc1> How use swat? I install package: samba amd swat. In browser http://localhost:901 dont go.
[04:02] <lale> pluto_: yes but both should use the same utilities for writing data
[04:02] <lale> anyway, let's try
[04:03] <BeepAU> hey guys, i wanted to ask you about playing games in linux. does it match up to windows? will all games play on ubuntu?
[04:03] <axisme> BeepAU, no
[04:03] <axisme> BeepAU, I use cedega for some
[04:03] <axisme> its good for some and bad for others
[04:03] <pluto_> BeepAU_,not all of them work
[04:03] <BeepAU> axisme -- don't you have to pay to use cedega?
[04:03] <axisme> The big titles tend to play better than the middle of the market ones
[04:04] <axisme> Yes but I pay for it
[04:04] <axisme> if you dont want to use cedega then good luck :-P
[04:04] <OoberMick> r000t: I'm running out of ideas ;) Make sure you have newest (10.4) version of X. Stop X. remove and reload the nvidia drive (like realist) suggests. start X. If that doesn't work... cry
[04:04] <axisme> its like 4 a month
[04:04] <BeepAU> axisme -- how much is it? is it availabile all over the world?
[04:04] <pluto_> lale_,you were right both of them are frontends
[04:04] <r000t> OoberMick: done all that already .. already crying .. thanks anyway man :(
[04:05] <webguy> can anyone help me?
[04:06] <realist> r000t: if all that fails, it might be worth trying the card with the open source "nv" drivers
[04:06] <pluto_> webguy_,what happened ?
[04:06] <try_iT_556> webguy, what is the problem?
[04:06] <lale> anyway I don't have any blank DVD at hand
[04:06] <webguy> how do i set up three different pop/imap accounts under one user?
[04:06] <realist> Failing that, try the card in another slot, or another PC
[04:06] <axisme> beepau, it doesnt replace windows though...if you play lots of games...dual boot
[04:06] <bahadir> hello guys
[04:06] <pluto_> lale_,have you checked format in which it is burnt?
[04:06] <bahadir> cld you pls advise how to start xgl
[04:07] <webguy> pluto_: try_iT_556 ?
[04:07] <BeepAU> axisme -- i was thinking i'd like to get rid of windows eventually, but i might keep it if games in ubuntu are going to be difficult.
[04:07] <pluto_> lale_,do DVD's burnt in linux work in windows?
[04:07] <try_iT_556> webguy, witch mail client do you use?
[04:08] <axisme> BeepAU, just keep it for games. I removed it and went Ubuntu all the way. I regret it when i try to play games though
[04:08] <pluto_> webguy_,well i use evolution
[04:08] <bahadirt> cld you pls advise how to start xgl
[04:08] <nabil2199> i have a HP omnibook xt 6200 with an ati radeon mobility m6 ly i tried to install the ati  driver but the x server crashes
[04:08] <erUSUL> pluto_: if burned with joliet extensions (large filenames) there will be no problem
[04:08] <lale> pluto_: what do you mean by format?  DVDs burnt in linux do not work in windows
[04:08] <webguy> try_iT_556:  postfix
[04:08] <try_iT_556> webguy, i use thunderbird, and i can create as many accounts as i want
[04:08] <bahadirt> !xgl
[04:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:08] <webguy> i need to create accounts on the server
[04:08] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, games in ubuntu are great
[04:09] <axisme> erm no they arent
[04:09] <BeepAU> axisme -- if it's in this list (http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/) does that mean i can play it in cedega?
[04:09] <try_iT_556> webguy, hummmm little bit complicated.... i dont work with postfix.. really sorry
[04:09] <pluto_> lale_,there will be some format option,i don't know i don't have a DVD writer
[04:09] <webguy> thx anyways
[04:09] <BeepAU> Linuturk_code -- why do you say that?
[04:09] <fmarostica> Anyone known any deb package for glade3?
[04:09] <axisme> in theory....but not all work without issues
[04:09] <webguy> how about you pluto_
[04:09] <webguy> any ideas?
[04:09] <nabil2199> plz help
[04:09] <try_iT_556> webguy, have you look on a channel about postfix?
[04:09] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, I play a few. Liquid War, Armagetron, Cadimum, Battle for Wesnoth
[04:09] <pluto_> webguy_,nope i have no ideas how to do that
[04:09] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, I have Homeworld and SimCity 2000 installed via wine
[04:10] <OoberMick> Linuturk_code: i quite like globulation
[04:10] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, it's not that hard, if you work at it a little
[04:10] <webguy> urg - any other help areas?
[04:10] <pluto_> BeepAU_,Deus EX works well with wine as well
[04:10] <Linuturk_code> there are plenty of native games out there that rock hard
[04:11] <jpjacobs> BeepAU, try Nexuiz... reall sweet
[04:11] <Linuturk_code> FROZEN BUBBLE
[04:11] <nalpha> anyone know what's another software FTP except gFTP coz gFTP is not stable
[04:11] <BeepAU> jpjacobs -- what's that?
[04:11] <jpjacobs> an fps like quake/UT/...
[04:11] <jpjacobs> and free !
[04:11] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, are you on Ubuntu right now?
[04:11] <BeepAU> Linuturk_code -- yep
[04:11] <lale> jpjacobs: there should be named "cube" or something like that
[04:11] <jpjacobs> nalpha nautilus :p
[04:12] <nalpha> hah
[04:12] <nalpha> can?
[04:12] <lale> jpjacobs: try www.happypenguin.org
[04:12] <nalpha> sure? how i don't know about it... lol
[04:12] <jpjacobs> places>connect to server
[04:12] <BeepAU> so, what is Nexuiz exactly?
[04:12] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, open up Synaptic, and do a search for these games. "Wesnoth" "Liquid War" "tron"
[04:12] <jpjacobs> see their site
[04:12] <jpjacobs> nexuiz
[04:12] <c0nfidencal> 80.216.28.89
[04:13] <c0nfidencal> upz
[04:13] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, and another game that starts with C (I think it's cadium
[04:13] <Linuturk_code> )
[04:13] <try_iT_556> do you guys know how can i list all DLL that an application needs? i am cross compiling windows application on UBUNTU
[04:13] <jpjacobs>  www.nexuiz.com
[04:13] <Linuturk_code> BeepAU, Chromium << that's it
[04:13] <chamo> what's the package containing the "aclocal" command again ?
[04:13] <frahi> try_iT_556: there is a tool, i guess its called dependency walker or something
[04:14] <try_iT_556> thx frahi
[04:14] <jpjacobs> BeepAU, like lale said try www.happypenguin.org
[04:14] <Linuturk_code> jpjacobs, is Nexuiz in the repos ?
[04:14] <jpjacobs> nope
[04:15] <jpjacobs> Linuturk_code, but you can download it from their site, and you don't need to compile or anyting, it just runs when you unpack it
[04:15] <Linuturk_code> .deb ?
[04:15] <fmarostica> is There glade3 deb package for ubuntu dapper drake?
[04:16] <jpjacobs> Linuturk_code, nope, just a tar
[04:17] <Linuturk_code> so with tar's, you just unpack them to your home directory and they should work?
[04:17] <nox-Hand> Am I correct in assuming DVD ISO burning is called growisofs? Or what is it?
[04:18] <jpjacobs> Linuturk_code,  it does here
[04:18] <Mr0bvious> I do'nt have a glade3 package. I'm using universe and multiverse too.
[04:18] <Mr0bvious> *don't
[04:19] <Luc1> How invoke SWAT, use my web browser to connect to http://localhost:901?
[04:19] <tamashumi> hello
[04:19] <realist> Linuturk_code: .tar.gz are usually source, which you'd need to configure and compile
[04:19] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i downloaded a mp3 to .ogg converter in the package manager, was this automatically installed and if so how do i access it?
[04:20] <realist> ISO, what was the package called?
[04:20] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: I just use mp32ogg
[04:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i forget, why?
[04:20] <Linuturk_code> realist, but tar are usually binaries that will run out of the box?
[04:21] <realist> Linuturk_code: they could be... would you really trust it though!?
[04:21] <tamashumi> guys any of you have some experience with raid arrays on linux?
[04:21] <tamashumi> I have a problem with it
[04:21] <Linuturk_code> realist, well, my first stop for software is Synaptic
[04:22] <Mr0bvious> Linuturk_code: The tar could just be source code needing to be compiled.
[04:22] <sexcopter8000m> any recommendations for a program to transcode mp3's to a lower bitrate?
[04:23] <realist> Linuturk_code: My instinct would be to try running "dpkg -l |grep mp3" from a console/terminal
[04:23] <realist> sexcopter8000m: lame
[04:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> where does the package manager download to?
[04:24] <realist> ISOLATEDViRuS: It downloads .deb to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:24] <sexcopter8000m> realist, thanks
[04:24] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: It just downloads a deb package that is made for Ubuntu. It installs it and probably deletes it.
[04:24] <realist> ISOLATEDViRuS: it would most likely install the binary you're after to /usr/bin/
[04:24] <Mr0bvious> Eh I take that back, maybe not deleted.
[04:24] <Jenga> can anybody tell me how much benefit there is in using the Kolivas patchsets?
[04:24] <realist> Mr0bvious: depends on apt's configuration
[04:25] <Linuturk_code> realist, Mr0bvious my guess is, he's installed something from Synaptic and it didn't create an automatic menu for him, right ISOLATEDViRuS
[04:25] <Linuturk_code> ?
[04:26] <Linuturk_code> In which case, he should open Synaptic back up, find the package he installed, right click on it, and select the List Installed Files option to see where everything is installed to and find the file to execute
[04:26] <berg> tc de onde
[04:27] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: dpkg -l | grep ogg
[04:27] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Don't paste it here
[04:27] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Use a pastebin (pastebin.ca or whatever is in the /topic)
[04:29] <realist> It's more than likely "mp32ogg"
[04:29] <Mr0bvious> realist: I agree.
[04:30] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me with these errors I get when I try to run the update manager please
[04:30] <wheels3572>           If run from GUI
[04:30] <wheels3572> ________________________________
[04:30] <wheels3572> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager
[04:30] <wheels3572> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[04:30] <wheels3572>           If run from CLI
[04:30] <wheels3572> _________________________________
[04:30] <wheels3572> wheels@wheels-desktop:~$ su
[04:30] <wheels3572> Password:
[04:30] <wheels3572> root@wheels-desktop:/home/wheels# update-manager
[04:31] <wheels3572> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[04:31] <wheels3572>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[04:31] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: If it is mp32ogg, just mp32ogg *files* on a terminal.
[04:31] <Mr0bvious> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:31] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: Bad!
[04:31] <wheels3572> I know about Pastebin lol
[04:32] <wheels3572> I dont understand how I can get a virus in Linux
[04:32] <wheels3572> lol
[04:32] <realist> wheels3572: usually they need to be installed, some how.
[04:32] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: You didn't. You gotta use the sudo command not su
[04:32] <wheels3572> ahhhhhhhhhh not su ok :)
[04:33] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: And please use a pastebin instead of flooding a channel.
[04:33] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: It is a rule.
[04:33] <axisme> the fact he can su at all is surprising :-P
[04:33] <axisme> oh i can too
[04:33] <axisme> how odd
[04:33] <axisme> hehe
[04:33] <wheels3572> Ohhh ok Mr0bvious
[04:33] <Mr0bvious> I know how to use su instead of sudo.
[04:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> MrObvious, is there a way to mp32ogg an entire directory?
[04:33] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: cd /path/to/dir && mp32ogg *
[04:34] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Use the * wildcard
[04:34] <drpc> hello
[04:34] <Mr0bvious> drpc: Hi
[04:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so for example, cd /path && mp32ogg *.mp3   ?
[04:34] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Yup
[04:34] <drpc> Mr0bvious i want help
[04:34] <joshua__> What's the deal with sudo anyways...it seems more logical to just set the root password and use su...you're doing mostly the same thing, just less typing...?
[04:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> thanks a ton dude.
[04:34] <Mr0bvious> !ask
[04:35] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: You're welcome.
[04:35] <kyja> what software would span what ever it is I need to bck up over dvd's?
[04:35] <drpc> when i try to install KDE i get eroor
[04:35] <Mr0bvious> joshua__: Dunno. It's the way debian is.
[04:35] <wheels3572> Mr0bvious, let me run this by you.  I ran Synaptic Packet-Manager and got the same error that the mechanism sudo does not allow me to run this program
[04:35] <Mr0bvious> drpc: Just ask your question don't ask to ask.
[04:35] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: You need root perms with sudo.
[04:35] <drpc> E: Couldn't find package KED
[04:36] <wheels3572> If you run from GUI you would htink you would be all set though is my point
[04:36] <tristan__> drpc, sudo apt-get install kde-desktop-environment
[04:36] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: Does it ask for your password?
[04:36] <wheels3572> yes
[04:36] <wheels3572> and I type it in
[04:36] <tristan__> drp, gives you a full install of KDE like if you have installed Kubuntu
[04:36] <Mr0bvious> Oh. Hmm dunno.
[04:36] <Mr0bvious> I don't use GUI junk, just apt-get
[04:36] <wheels3572> lol I know makes 2 of us stumped me too
[04:36] <wheels3572> lol
[04:36] <wheels3572> Ahhhhh
[04:36] <Mr0bvious> sudo apt-get install (package)
[04:36] <drpc> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop-environment
[04:37] <Mr0bvious> Or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade upgrades your entire system with the latest.
[04:37] <Linuturk_code> Mr0bvious, why not use aptitude ?
[04:37] <erUSUL> drpc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:38] <kyja> grrrrrrr
[04:38] <drpc> OK
[04:38] <Mr0bvious> drpc: In a terminal cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to a pastebin website. There is one in the topic if that doesn't work what erUSUL suggested.
[04:38] <wheels3572> Ohhh thanks I didn't know about that command :)
[04:38] <drpc> yes
[04:38] <Mr0bvious> Linuturk_code: Just the way I roll.
[04:38] <Mr0bvious> wheels3572: You're welcome.
[04:38] <jpjacobs> kyja, what's the prob? constipated? :p
[04:38] <drpc> can u give me new sources.list
[04:38] <joshua__> the "gui junk" is pretty handy when your just browsing... :?)
[04:38] <magus_x> my problem solved by itself
[04:38] <magus_x> o.o
[04:38] <kyja> jpjacobs: =]  hehe
[04:38] <magus_x> Tomcat_, : thats good lol
[04:39] <Linuturk_code> Mr0bvious, I'm just curious, b/c I heard that apt-get doesn't handle dependencies as well, that's all
[04:39] <Mr0bvious> drpc: DO what erUSUL said about the sudo apt-get...
[04:39] <drpc> ok i do it now
[04:39] <Mr0bvious> Linuturk_code: It should be the same. I never had any problems.
[04:39] <kyja> jpjacobs: I dont understand why gnomebaker works in another login but not this one. it acts like it will start but never opens. terminal says a thread of it already exits yet it realy does not.
[04:39] <joshua__> MrObvious, can you search the avail. packages from the command line?
[04:40] <joshua__> ..err terminal..
[04:40] <tristan__> When I installed Kubuntu it did not installed the package kde... Why?
[04:40] <speed0001>  :)
[04:41] <jpjacobs> kyja, that's prolly some stale lockfile
[04:41] <kyja> jpjacobs: stale lockfile??
[04:41] <speed0001> jpjacobs
[04:41] <gdb> tristan__: There is no package called "kde"
[04:41] <jpjacobs> kyje, like gnomebaker crashed, or being killed. look in a dir like .gnomebacker or something like that
[04:41] <Mastastealth> hey guys, i just uncheck "Enable Wirless" in my netowrk manager, and now my wireless USB key (which was using ndiswrapper) seems to be completely undetected. problem is, i dont see the "enable wireless" anymore. where can i manually reenable it?
[04:41] <jpjacobs> speed0001, hm?
[04:41] <tristan__> gdb, in my synaptic there is...
[04:41] <Jenga> Can anybody tell me what benefit there is in using the Kolivas patches when compiling a kernel?
[04:42] <gdb> tristan__: *shrugs*
[04:42] <gdb> There is no "kde" package.
[04:42] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: dpkg -l | grep kubuntu-desktop <-does that return anything?
[04:42] <tristan__> Mr0bvious, yes
[04:42] <Mr0bvious> Ok
[04:42] <Mr0bvious> Then KDE is installed.
[04:42] <sexcopter8000m> ok, how can i change the quality of ogg files to save on space?
[04:42] <smbrow14> I'm having sort of a strange problem that I'm hoping someone can help me with: for some reason, I can only open some of the applications in System -> Administration (eg, synaptic, device manager
[04:43] <Mr0bvious> smbrow14: Errors?
[04:43] <tristan__> Mr0bvious, yes I know I am running it. But if I click to install the package called kde it proposes me to install thinks like kstars which I don't have right now and which I thought was in the kde-desktop-environment package
[04:43] <smbrow14> the window freezes and a dialog box pops up asking me to force quit
[04:44] <kyja> jpjacobs: you mean perhaps in its binary directory or directories that it uses are lacking permissions for it?
[04:44] <smbrow14> this happens with the Users and Groups program and a few others
[04:44] <kyja> created a new user and it works :/
[04:44] <kyja> strange. like it conflicts with something
[04:45] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: Why do you want to install the package kde?
[04:46] <jpjacobs> kyja, if it's a lockfile try looking in various dir's for files named lock or .lock
[04:46] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: KUbuntu's installer automatically installs everything KDE.
[04:46] <tristan__> MrObvious, well I was just wondering why when installing Kubuntu it does not install the package KDE
[04:46] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: Because it's named something
[04:46] <kyja> jpjacobs: oh ok I will look
[04:46] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: Because it's named something else
[04:46] <Mr0bvious> kde-desktop something
[04:46] <rpn> Hi ... big problem.. no sound, all codecs installt
[04:47] <phantom> heya all!
[04:47] <s> hello
[04:47] <s> is there any way i can get a job_id calling lpr?
[04:47] <phantom> hello =-)
[04:48] <flask-> howdy
[04:48] <phantom> and that i don't really know since i don't use a printer here too often =-P
[04:48] <Mr0bvious> tristan__: Sorry kubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <tristan__> MrObvious, yes but if I click to install kde it proposes me to install kstars, automake, kdeadmin etc...
[04:48] <flask-> so I need to install ubuntu in "safe graphics mode" but I'm using the "alternate" install CD and that isn't an option. how do I achieve the same thing?
[04:48] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Ditto
[04:48] <Mr0bvious> flask-: Why do you need the "safe" mode?
[04:48] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there an escape character to cancel or halt the current task the terminal is performing?
[04:49] <Mr0bvious> flask-: I think there is a text mode
[04:49] <DrFinn> Need some help! Everytime i use gedit this is what I get "cannot open display:" !
[04:49] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Which process are you running?
[04:49] <joshua__> ISOLATED-> ctrl-c?
[04:49] <ISOLATEDViRuS> its a terminal command i started
[04:49] <phantom> but i have a question of my own that i'm hoping that someone might know the answer to...  does Xubuntu/Ubuntu support SMP?  i got a 2.4GHz AMD2 X2 here saying that it's only 1.2 GHz...  and i'm thinking is seriously hindering my performance...
[04:49] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Which one?
[04:49] <flask-> Mr0bvious: well the wiki page for my laptop says to use "safe graphics mode", and when I try it in "text mode" (same thing?) it hits a certain point and then the video gets all messed up, hard to describe really.
[04:49] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Yes.
[04:49] <ISOLATEDViRuS> joshua helped me, thanks man.
[04:49] <flask-> Mr0bvious: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironE1405?highlight=%28e1405%29
[04:50] <DrFinn> Need some help! Everytime i use gedit this is what I get "cannot open display:" !
[04:50] <Mr0bvious> flask-: Oh. Not sure
[04:50] <joshua__> would be careful though, its not good to ctrl-c some thigns when they are running, i caused myself to need to reinstall because of that
[04:50] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: You need to be sure which command. Just tell us which command.
[04:50] <phantom> Mr0bvious, ok, so how do i get it to see that i have an SMP machine then?  i found the K7 headers but i'm not quite sure how to use them... on top of that, i couldn't find any kernels with apt or synaptic.
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> Sometimes dpkg or apt can be tempermental like that.
[04:51] <Leo_Laporte> hi ubuntu guys!
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> phantom: The package will be linux-image-2.6.....smp
[04:51] <phantom> Mr0bious, hmmm...  ok.  brb.  thanks
[04:51] <DJAdmira1> Leo_Laporte: hello :P
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Oh wait
[04:51] <Leo_Laporte> anyone with any clue if which wireless maker makes linux workable drivers?
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> phantom: It's the 686
[04:52] <Mr0bvious> 
[04:52] <Mr0bvious>  linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[04:52] <DrFinn> Need some help! Everytime i use gedit this is what I get "cannot open display:"  . What should I do?
[04:52] <feesh> Hey guys, I'm having some serious trouble with my nvidia card, I've got the driver installed and stuff, but GL just crashes the X server, in gentoo you have to do an eselect set opengl nvidia, but I'm not sure what the counterpart is in ubuntu
[04:52] <Mr0bvious> DrFinn: More to the error?
[04:52] <DrFinn> nothing else
[04:52] <DJAdmira1> Leo_Laporte: you can make just about any wireless router work with ubuntu.
[04:52] <DJAdmira1> !wireless
[04:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <Leo_Laporte> not router
[04:52] <Leo_Laporte> wireless cards.
[04:52] <phantom> Mr0bvious i foudn the one saying K7, i hope that's ok. since i think that the AMDs are K7's or K8's.. i can't remember right off hand what AMD2's are.
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> Umm.
[04:53] <DJAdmira1> well i don't use wireless much but that link probably would be of help to you
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on AMD K7 SMP/UP
[04:53] <DrFinn> This what i get : "cannot open display: /etc/rc.local
[04:53] <DrFinn> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[04:53] <DrFinn> "
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> It says SMP
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> That's the key word
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> phantom: You can try the 686 kernel or the k7.
[04:53] <phantom> Mr0bvious it said that it supported SMP, so i'm crossing my fingers on this one.
[04:53] <Scottrix> hey everyone
[04:53] <feesh> !nvidia
[04:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:53] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Any AMD processor like K6 or newer will be 686 I think.
[04:53] <Leo_Laporte> ubuntu does have some wireless drivers out of the box right?
[04:54] <Mr0bvious> Leo_Laporte: Which chipset?
[04:54] <phantom> Mr0bious, is there any manual configuring i have to do to get to boot into the kernel?  *shudders*
[04:54] <Scottrix> anyone fiddled around with writing to a NTFS partition from linux?
[04:54] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Just choose the kernel version from the boot menu that comes up after your BIOS is done booting and switches to the boot loader.
[04:55] <darkowl> hello
[04:55] <phantom> Mr0bvious, great!  thanks so much.  BRB in the new kernel =-)
[04:55] <darkowl> i have a question...
[04:55] <Mr0bvious> phantom: Eh you might not need to. THe only other thing is if you have ATI/NVidia that needs kernel headers, you'll need
[04:55] <Mr0bvious> Dang.
[04:55] <darkowl> how to set that when i install new packages it doesnt ask me for cd ?
[04:55] <kenas> hi
[04:55] <darkowl> i dont want to install any packages from cd, i want to download them
[04:55] <Mr0bvious> !sources
[04:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:56] <Mastastealth> !nm
[04:56] <Mr0bvious> darkowl: Try reading that and it'll get you started with apt and stuff and souces.
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <realist> darkowl: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <kenas> i am getting problems updating (E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:56] <Mastastealth> !network manager
[04:56] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[04:56] <smbrow14> OK, is there a file where the error would possibly be logged (Users and Groups program not loading)?
[04:56] <Leo_Laporte>  Texas Instruments PCI-4510 CardBus
[04:56] <teicah> !kamasutra
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kamasutra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Linuturk_code> should a Intel Centrino be running the 386 kernel ?
[04:56] <kenas> !updating
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updating - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Linuturk_code> or the 686 kernel?
[04:57] <Mr0bvious> realist: Good idea to let him read up on it.
[04:57] <Mastastealth> does network manager have a configuration file somewhere?
[04:57] <kenas> !sources
[04:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:57] <kenas> !easysource
[04:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:57] <magus_x> i got a weird problem, my printer is printing only half of document, like colums, but it prints all of it, i mean, it rezises the document to fill in a column of the size of half horizontal paper
[04:57] <magus_x> i dont know how to explain
[04:57] <Mr0bvious> magus_x: lol
[04:57] <Leo_Laporte> i booted it out from a live CD and it does not dectect
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> Leo_Laporte: You might need to run ndiswrapper
[04:58] <Leo_Laporte> so...
[04:58] <Leo_Laporte> iyeah.
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> !ndiswrapper
[04:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:58] <realist> Mr0bvious: true, I just have difficulty explaining GUI tools via IRC ;-)
[04:58] <darkowl> i have server installation
[04:58] <munsa> Hello, does anyone know how to make your own repositories from .deb files?> I took all the deb files I have in back up and now I want to re-install them
[04:58] <darkowl> i cant remove cd repository in synaptic
[04:58] <munsa> I cant figure out how to re-install them all
[04:58] <kenas> i am getting problems updating (E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> darkowl: Then edit your sources.list
[04:59] <Mr0bvious> darkowl: Those links should explain it sufficiently.
[04:59] <munsa> darkowl  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <chronoAZ> thats not really Leo is it?
[04:59] <Mr0bvious> kenas: Is that the whole error?
[04:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hey guys im loving this now, i have another question though
[04:59] <munsa> What about making your own repositories??
[05:00] <darkowl> ok,i got it
[05:00] <munsa> from existing .deb files
[05:00] <realist> munsa: local repositories are no easy feat, you 'could' however install them manually using "dpkg -i package.deb"
[05:00] <DrFinn> can anyone help me fix my problem:  cannot use gedit command ! I get "cannot open display: (null)"
[05:00] <ISOLATEDViRuS> with mp32ogg, if i use the --rename=format option, how does that work exactly?
[05:00] <munsa> realist, the problem is I have so many that require dependancies
[05:00] <kenas> no
[05:00] <kenas> there are four errors
[05:00] <munsa> realist I have like 300 files I want to re-install
[05:00] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: Lemme read the man page
[05:01] <munsa> how do you .gz a whole bunch of fileS?
[05:01] <Leo_Laporte> you think i can run ndiswrapper on a live cd boot first?
[05:01] <realist> munsa: man tar
[05:01] <Mr0bvious> ISOLATEDViRuS: I think that's for the order of file names or something. I'd just convert them for nw.
[05:01] <realist> munsa: man gzip
[05:01] <Mr0bvious> *now
[05:01] <DrFinn> can anyone help me fix my problem:  cannot use gedit command ! I get "cannot open display: (null)" .... gedit stoped working since I updated !
[05:02] <Mr0bvious> DrFinn: I got an idea. ps aux | grep gedit
[05:02] <munsa> realist in the time in the time it took you to tell me to read the manyal you could have just told me
[05:02] <axisme> mine works :-P
[05:02] <kenas> Mrobvious u know wht can i do ?
[05:02] <kenas> Mr0bvious u know wht can i do ?
[05:02] <realist> munsa: spoonfeeding you wont help you learn either.
[05:03] <munsa> I know how to read.
[05:03] <Mr0bvious> kenas: No.
[05:03] <munsa> Dont need help reading
[05:03] <Mr0bvious> !tar
[05:03] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:03] <axisme> I do sometimes
[05:03] <axisme> when its in German :-(
[05:03] <realist> munsa: Then RTFM :-)
[05:03] <axisme> and English, English is a tricky language
[05:03] <munsa> realist - KMFA
[05:03] <Mr0bvious> munsa: Read what I just had ubotu post.
[05:03] <axisme> I'm fluent in Yorkshire twang
[05:03] <DrFinn> Mr0bvious: I got whis "root      5279  0.0  0.0   1624   496 pts/0    S+   18:03   0:00 grep gedit"
[05:04] <Leo_Laporte> is there a way i could get the pci id of the wireless card first in windows?
[05:05] <darkowl_> why doesnt this wokr ? sudo pat-get install libpng ?
[05:05] <darkowl_> it doesnt find me that package
[05:05] <bbrazil> darkowl_: apt
[05:05] <smbrow14> This is the error I'm getting: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21476
[05:05] <darkowl_> yes i know
[05:05] <darkowl_> thats not the problem
[05:05] <Mr0bvious> Leo_Laporte: The only thing I can think of is playing with the device in device manager.
[05:05] <darkowl_> im wrinting this from second comp
[05:06] <darkowl_> i see it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/libpng
[05:06] <bbrazil> darkowl_: that's not the binary package name
[05:06] <darkowl_> but when i want to install it it doesnt find it
[05:06] <darkowl_> then waht is it ?
[05:06] <bbrazil> darkowl_: look at the top of the page you posted
[05:06] <Leo_Laporte> or using a live cd.
[05:07] <darkowl_> what about it ?
[05:07] <bbrazil> darkowl_: your answer is there
[05:07] <darkowl_> on top of my page ?
[05:07] <DrFinn> so..about that gedit thing! Mr0bvious : any ideas?
[05:08] <Mr0bvious> DrFinn: Nope.
[05:08] <Mr0bvious> DrFinn: Unless you're running multiple instances of X.
[05:08] <darkowl_> well i dont see what can help me...
[05:08] <DrFinn> nope
[05:09] <smbrow14> Gah! Every time I try to do anything with gksu or gksudo now I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21476
[05:11] <joshua__> This isnt strictly ubuntu related...but is there a way in xchat to hide join/quit messages?
[05:12] <local> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[05:12] <local> hola
[05:14] <jbroome> joshua__: right click on the channel tab on the bottom, and unselect join/part messages
[05:14] <fredl> Hi, I have just reinstalled linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686 with apt-get install --reinstall. It installs /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-26-686/fglrx/fglrx.mod.o. When I cd into /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-26-686/fglrx/ and try insmod fglrx.mod.o it says:
[05:14] <Brkopac> Hey Guys, how do I change the permissions and owners of a folder and all its contents, I know its chown and chmod but how do i do it recursively?
[05:14] <fredl> insmod: error inserting 'fglrx.mod.o': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> The wheel on my mouse quit working after the last update...  I have xorg.conf open and ready to edit if anyone can help
[05:15] <fredl> do the restricted modules get loaded in a specific way?
[05:15] <jbroome> Brkopac: -R or -r i forget which
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Brkopac: how many folders are you trying to change?
[05:15] <fredl> in dmesg I see: fglrx: Unknown symbol init_module
[05:15] <Brkopac> 1
[05:15] <magus_x> i need help, my printer is acting strange, this is the problem:  left is how it should print, right is how it prints : http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6451/testehh2.jpg
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Brkopac: I would use gksudo nautilus
[05:16] <fredl> Anybody here use the fglrx driver from ATI?
[05:16] <realist> fredl: yes.
[05:16] <magus_x> any ideas
[05:16] <fredl> realist - can you do lsmod|grep fglrx for me?
[05:16] <J_P> hey, anyone know where I find psycopg2 package to dapper ?
[05:17] <Brkopac> sudo chown -r /files/ worked with chown, but chmod doesn't seem to want to do it
[05:17] <fredl> realist, you running kernel 2.6.15-26?
[05:17] <treb0r> Brkopac: try using a captial R
[05:17] <realist> fredl: yes.
[05:17] <treb0r> capital
[05:18] <Brkopac> invalid mode: `-R+rw`
[05:18] <blingbling> When loading Ubuntu today, I repeatedly stalled on "Scanning Security Repository." Finally, I let it scan for 25 minutes until it finally said, "Cannot connect to Security Repository." It Almost pushed me to a different distro, thinking Ubunto just wouldn't work on my pc
[05:18] <treb0r> Brkopac: no, I meant the switch for recursive
[05:18] <fredl> realist, please do ls -l /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-26-686/fglrx for me
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> The wheel on my mouse quit working after the last update...  I have xorg.conf open and ready to edit if anyone can help
[05:19] <munsa> how do you .gz a whole bunch of files?
[05:19] <Magicdead> uhm could anyone help me getting my 2nd monitor svideo tv up to 1360x768 resolution ?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[05:19] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:19] <munsa> I can .tar.gz them with the gui but i want to just .gz them
[05:19] <fredl> munza - with gzip
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> munsa: that will tell you the basics
[05:20] <treb0r> munsa: tar them up first
[05:20] <realist> munsa: it appears you have difficulty reading.
[05:20] <munsa> eat me realist
[05:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yo guys, what do i need to run XGL?
[05:20] <realist> munsa: you expect people to help you, yet you have appauling manners.
[05:20] <sn3f3ru> Hi; anyone has experience with nagios?
[05:20] <munsa> no, i just dont like you realist
[05:20] <sn3f3ru> kororaa.org for XGL
[05:20] <munsa> i think you come in here just to upset peple
[05:20] <xevil> Jack_Sparrow: do you have option "ZAxisMapping" "4,5"  set in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> let me check
[05:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> thanks sn3f3ru!
[05:21] <lesshaste>  how do you remove the white margins from a pdf doc?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xevil: yes it does
[05:21] <munsa> so I have a package .tar.gz and I want to make it just .gz how can I do that?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> xevil: and thanks...
[05:21] <sn3f3ru> Hi; anyone has experience with nagios?
[05:21] <xevil> hmmm... should work
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> xevil: and was working..
[05:22] <tkrin> sn3f3ru:  a little, what's up?
[05:22] <OoberMick> munsa: gz works on files
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> and does work in (Dont shoot me) XP
[05:22] <tkrin> sn3f3ru:  although, it's not channel specific.  ;)
[05:22] <fredl> munsa - you can gzip a <<file>>, not <<files>>
[05:22] <xevil> maybe the new package is still broken a bit...
[05:22] <realist> munsa: untar && ungzip && gzip
[05:22] <OoberMick> munsa: yes what fredl said
[05:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> uhh.. im on ubuntu, not kororaa...
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xevil: I will try a differnt mouse on reboot just to see if it something in the update did not like the logiteh mouse
[05:24] <xevil> Jack_Sparrow: I don't expect that will matter
[05:24] <J_P> hey, anyone know where I find psycopg2 package to dapper ?
[05:24] <sn3f3ru> if you just want to see it; unless you have a very strong machine I don't think xgl is usable
[05:25] <fredl> realist, is the module fglrx loaded with you?
[05:25] <munsa> ooberMick If I cd to the folder, I have 200 files inside I want to gzip, how do I select them all?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> xevil: I do see a bunch of wacom input device stuff that I dont remember being there.
[05:25] <krank_> I think I have the nvidia driver installed, but I want to make sure. Also I can't find any nvidia configuration.
[05:25] <fredl> realist, do you also have /lib//modules/2.6.15-26-686/volatile/fglrx.ko ?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> krank  go to terminal glxgears -printfps
[05:26] <fredl> is it possible to see what .deb a file belongs to?
[05:26] <munsa> Hey, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Kororaa XGL live CD?
[05:26] <xevil> Jack_Sparrow: that's in my xorg.conf as well, but my mouse is working
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[05:26] <krank_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:26] <krank_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:26] <OoberMick> munsa: you want to gzip 200 files. i.e. have 200 gz's at the end?
[05:26] <fredl> munsa - you can gzip a <<file>>, not <<fileSSS>>
[05:26] <Brkopac> got it thanks
[05:27] <Brkopac> Another question, is there anyway to enable the 4th mouse button on my mouse?
[05:27] <fredl> munsa - why do you want to have multiple files in one .gz anyway?
[05:27] <krank_> What do you think Jack, not installed?
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys im trying to install a package form source, I've extracted the tar.gz and cd to dir then done ./configure now what do i do
[05:27] <ketsugi> Paddy_EIRE: make
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> krank  did you try glxgears?
[05:28] <Dru> has the forum gone tits up
[05:28] <ketsugi> Paddy_EIRE: then after that's done, sudo make install
[05:28] <krank_> yeah, said this Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:28] <krank_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
 make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:28] <munsa> fred1 I want to make a home repository, I have a ton of .deb files, things I downloaded, I had to re-install ubuntu and now I wan my files back
[05:28] <urmom> am i the only one who cannot get into the ubuntu forums right now?
[05:28] <munsa> you see
[05:28] <ketsugi> huh, you sure you did the ./configure right?
[05:28] <munsa> Hey, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Kororaa XGL live CD?
[05:28] <Dru> forums gone tits I think
[05:29] <Dru> been up & down all day
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> krank_: Dosent look like your drivers are installed correctly, did you use the Nvidia website or the Ubuntu website
[05:29] <J_P> hey all, are there somethink like as apt-get.org for dapper ? Becouse I try fnd psycopg2 to dapper, but not find.. :-(
[05:29] <phantom> Mr0bvious, are you still here by any chance?
[05:29] <krank_> Synaptec from within ubuntu...recommended route?
[05:29] <munsa> Damn
[05:29] <munsa> this sucks
[05:29] <fredl> munsa - then why do you not like to use 'tar' instead? just use tar xjvf files.tar.gz * in that dir
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[05:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:29] <krank_> er Synaptic
[05:29] <rjm1982> munsa: Asking the same question again usually isnt going to get you the answer you want
[05:29] <phantom> It seems that updating to my new kernel (the SMP one) has broken my nvidia drivers.. how do i fix them?
[05:30] <jbroome> reinstall nvidia
[05:30] <Dru> cant u install nvidia using automatix
 do u know what im supposed to do with this error 'make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.'
[05:30] <jbroome> !automatix
[05:30] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:30] <munsa> rjm1982 do you realize you just lost 10 seconds of your life typing that useless responce?
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Dru: Friends dont let friends try automatix
[05:30] <ketsugi> Paddy_EIRE: sounds like you didn't ./configure properly
[05:30] <Dru> lol
[05:30] <frahi> automatix is a bad idea
[05:31] <Dru> not used it myself
[05:31] <ezenu> why? seems to save a lot of time
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> or easyubuntu
[05:31] <magus_x> i need help, my printer is acting strange, this is the problem:  left is how it should print, right is how it prints : http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6451/testehh2.jpg
[05:31] <phantom> jbroome reinstalling the nvidia-glx thru apt or synaptics does not work.  is there any other way to do it?
 nothing went wrong during ./configure
[05:31] <ketsugi> then I dunno
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ezenu: Tends to BREAK systems
[05:31] <phantom> jbroome is there some kind of reconfigure i can do thru dpkg?
[05:31] <frahi> ezenu: it breaks some rules that are needed to keep a system running well
[05:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> guys, how do i install or run XGL on ubuntu?
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ezenu: If they come here they LEARN how to do it
[05:32] <OoberMick> munsa: what do you want? lots of files all gzip'd as separate files?
[05:32] <ezenu> i suppose
[05:32] <frahi> ISOLATEDViRuS: there are some good howtos in the web
[05:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i read the explainations, and i got confused -__-
 goin to dl the rpm instead and convert to deb
[05:32] <tristan__> Is there anyone who can tell me where the file smb.conf is located?
[05:32] <ketsugi> what software is that, Paddy?
[05:32] <munsa> OoberMick I am trying to re-install alot of .deb files I have
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Alien is gonna get you one of these days
[05:33] <fredl> munsa - you can actually put put more files in one .gz. It is described under 'Advanced Usage' in the manual page.
[05:33] <ezenu> tristan__, I think, /etc/samba
[05:33] <lee_carraher> tristan__, /etc/samba
[05:33] <OoberMick> munsa: What has that got to do with gzip?
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> hey, how do I zip a folder?
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> like actual zip, not gzip.
[05:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> does anyone have a link that has step by step directions (walkthrough) on a simple installation of whats needed for XGL, and how to execute it?
[05:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> everything i read confused the hell out of me <_<
[05:34] <lee_carraher> tuxtheslacker: man zip
[05:34] <magus_x> xgl is a crap, lol
[05:34] <urmom> where is xorg.conf located?
[05:34] <fredl> munsa, cat file1 file2 | gzip > foo.gz
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> etc/x11/xorg
[05:34] <urmom> thnx
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i know its an early alpha thing, but i really want to test out the cube and 32 desktop stuffs
 yeah thats what i was thinking although upon double checking the ./configure output it says GTK++ isnt installed correctly and another thing glibs or something like that but i will leave for now as i know this will go on
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: good luck,..
[05:35] <munsa> OoberMick because when I try to make the repo it keeps asking me fore Packages.GZ
[05:35] <fredl> munsa, but: If  you  wish to create a single archive file with multiple members so that members can later be extracted independently, use an archiver such as tar or zip. GNU tar supports the -z option to invoke gzip transparently. gzip is designed as a complement to tar, not as a replacement.
[05:35] <magus_x> i need help, my printer is acting strange, this is the problem:  left is how it should print, right is how it prints : http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6451/testehh2.jpg
[05:35] <OoberMick> munsa: Packages.gz it just a LIST of the files
[05:36] <fredl> munsa, Packages.gz is something entirely different.
[05:36] <munsa> I see
[05:36] <OoberMick> munsa: which is then gzip'd obviously
[05:36] <munsa> oh this is bad
[05:36] <gdb> magus_x: I don't get it.  Left is using one font, right is using another, and neither are examples of printed output.
[05:37] <magus_x> gdb
[05:37] <magus_x> nope
[05:37] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there a .m4a to ogg converter?
[05:37] <linux__alien> is anyone running an AMD 64 bit system ? If yes what version of Ubuntu have you installed ? 64 bit or 32 bit? and what you advise?
[05:37] <magus_x> gdb: i dont have a digital camera
[05:37] <magus_x> gdb: so i resized the second screen to show how's the output
[05:37] <munsa> I am getting a "FAILED TO CHECK FOR INSTALLED APPPLICATIONS when i try to add remove applications
[05:37] <sethk> magus_x, use a screen capture program
[05:37] <realist> munsa: I did say it wasn't trivial to set one up, however; http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ch-package.en.html might give you some clues.
[05:37] <munsa> This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.
[05:38] <gdb> magus_x: meaning you altered the right hand image to mimic what the printed output looks like?
[05:38] <OoberMick> munsa: I you want a mirror of debian files look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/debmirror
[05:38] <magus_x> gdb: yup
[05:38] <gdb> magus_x: Ok, that makes more sense. ;-)
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: You might try selecting a different printer then going back to the correct printer to see if having it reload the driver works..  Just a thought.. that is quite odd..
[05:39] <phreakys> hi
[05:39] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : i will try...
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> 890 people answer Hello
[05:39] <phreakys> i just installed the java jdk. anyone knows what dir it installs?
[05:39] <realist> munsa: next time, save your 'package state', rather than your packages, i.e. dpkg --get-selections > backup.list
[05:40] <OoberMick> munsa: if on the other hand you just want to install all of the debs you can just do dpkg -i *
[05:40] <lee_carraher> phreakys: /usr/lib/jdk
[05:40] <phreakys> tnx lee
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> OoberMick:  Ouch,
[05:40] <lee_carraher> phreakys: i mean /usr/lib/java, sorry
[05:40] <realist> Anyway, time for this black duck to sleep.
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> night
[05:40] <gdb> magus_x: Just to ensure that the document looked ok, I'd open it OOo Writer, save it as a PDF, and make sure it looks right in Evince.
[05:40] <realist> OoberMick: I suggested that a while back, apparently it's not an option for munsa for some reason.
[05:41] <munsa> OoberMick the problem is I backed up 300 plus .deb files from my last ubuntu install, now I want to re-install them, clicking on them one-by-one would take a year, and that is without the dependancies problem
[05:41] <phreakys> ok, thanks again. was trying to install bluej, so i need the dir.
[05:41] <magus_x> Evince?
[05:41] <gdb> magus_x: Yeah, that's the default PDF viewer that you get when you double click a PDF in Nautilus.
[05:41] <krank_> !nvidia
[05:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:41] <magus_x> ah
[05:41] <magus_x> k
[05:41] <gdb> magus_x: it's the "free acroread" ;-)
[05:41] <krank_> Jack_Sparrow, still there?
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> for a mintue
[05:42] <krank_> Those instructions did not seem to work
[05:42] <gdb> Since an HTML document will look different when printed depending on the browser, but a PDF will *always* look the same printed or on screen, I'd like to see if the document looks right as a PDF, when we see on the computer exactly what should come out of the printer.
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI I am running NV 6600 pci-e
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> krank_: where did they give an error?
[05:42] <linux__alien> i ve a weird problem with ubuntu 64 bit . I get connected to the internet and when i leave the internet connection idle for sometime and then when i again start browsing i am unable to browse using Firefox, though IRC Chat and Synaptic works, i am unable to browse
[05:42] <Dru> lucky my machine is getting near retirement
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> krank_: what card are you running
[05:43] <linux__alien> Could some one help me with a solution
[05:43] <krank_> Those nvidia modules were already installed, should I uninstall, then reinstall?
[05:43] <krank_> 6800 agp
[05:43] <munsa> Ok I have a big problem,  when I click on add remove programs I get this.... Failed to check for installed and available applications
[05:43] <munsa> This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.
[05:43] <Jman888> Is it possible to make a custom cd to install after installing ubuntu that will install all essential ubuntu things(Im tired of going thru it all everytime i install ubuntu)
[05:43] <Dru> 9800Pro 256 AGP lol
[05:43] <nerdzyboy> Hi
[05:43] <darkowl> i have another problem when i am compiling links i get an error: comfigure:error:no graphics drivers found. i want to use links with fb, so why doesnt it work ?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> krank_: but how they were installed and which versions were installed is the key, yes I would pull out the ones you got and try the ones from the Ub site
[05:44] <OoberMick> munsa: you are trying to do something that isn't very easy. Either you install the all (dpkg -i *) or install the ones you want one at a time or delete the ones you don't want then install the rest. Or install debmirror and work out how it works.
[05:44] <gdb> Jman888: I'd suggest something easier, and that's to install all the software you want, then save your selections list.  When you install a new machine, copy the list over, set it, and do a dselect upgrade.
[05:44] <saiko> hi, can someone tell me the command and options i should use to delete a non-empty dir ?
[05:44] <Narf> hello
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[05:47] (darkowl/#ubuntu) i have another problem when i am compiling links i get an error: comfigure:error:no graphics drivers found. i want to use links with fb, so why doesnt it work ?
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[05:47] (rukuartic/#ubuntu) GoodGolly: What other options would I hvae?
[05:47] (ulph/#ubuntu) darkowl: have you tried "apt-get build-dep links"?
[05:48] (darkowl/#ubuntu) that wont install it with --enabled-graphics
[05:48] (realist/#ubuntu) munsa: next time you may want to just save your package state, rather than the packages themselves...
[05:48] (OoberMick/#ubuntu) munsa: you should be able to remove he "file" lines from sources.list and it should be ok
[05:48] (realist/#ubuntu) munsa: i.e. dpkg --get-selections >myselections
[05:48] (finalbeta/#ubuntu) What is fb? I would like to know because everytime someone sais it I get highlighted (notified)
[05:48] (mcphail/#ubuntu) darkowl: does the README tell you which libraries are required?
[05:48] (darkowl/#ubuntu) framebuffer
[05:48] (realist/#ubuntu) then to restore them, dpkg --set-selections <myselections
[05:48] (sholden/#ubuntu) Question...  has anyone successfully set up MP3 support for amaroK under Breezy?  I've been searching for answers and I do have the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package installed, but I still cant seem to play audio.  Any help would be great...
[05:48] (GoodGolly/#ubuntu) rukuartic: possibly /dev/cdrw or /dev/dvdrom ?
[05:49] (rukuartic/#ubuntu) GoodGolly: Nope not quite...
[05:49] <smoser> anyone successfully running Xnest on dapper?  I try running via 'xinit -- /usr/bin/Xnest :8' but Xnest is rejecting the connections to it.
[05:49] (realist/#ubuntu) then, apt-get dselect-upgrade
[05:49] (max__/#ubuntu) I have a xp hda1 on my ubuntu desktop. How do i get permission to write these files ?
[05:49] <smoser> with messages like:
[05:49] <smoser> AUDIT: Wed Aug 23 10:46:45 2006: 12580 Xnest: client 1 rejected from local host
[05:49] <GoodGolly> rukuartic: i do not know what to tell you, then
[05:49] <GoodGolly> rukuartic: sorry
[05:49] <ulph> darkowl: libdirectfb-dev or something maybe, apt-search is your friend
[05:50] <ulph> apt-cache search sorry
[05:50] <rukuartic> GoodGolly: er... well... good golly it was /dev/dvd
[05:50] <rukuartic> GoodGolly: who woulda thunk. my apologies and thanks
[05:50] <munsa> oh ok cool thank you
[05:50] <munsa> ok kick ass they are installing
[05:50] <GoodGolly> rukuartic: no problem, glad it worked
[05:50] <munsa> haha
[05:50] <max__> I have a xp hda1 on my ubuntu desktop. How do i get permission to write these files ?
[05:50] <GoodGolly> max__: you don't want to write files in xp from w/in ubuntu.... as far as i know that support is still not very good
[05:51] <boudahxl> Any xgl/compiz guru around? I installed quinn's repository packages works well btw. But synaptic is offering upgrades... Safe?
[05:51] <munsa> OoberMick -  i think i spoke too soon
[05:51] <zambaboo> hi guys
[05:51] <kaiska> hi :)
[05:51] <Narf> I got a "Segmentation fault" error when unloading snd-cmipci and now when I try to load the module again it just hangs until I hit ctrl+c, any suggestion how to fix it ?
[05:52] <zambaboo> does dist-upgrade upgrades breezy to dapper?
[05:52] <sn3f3ru> to install in in Debian Etch I used the nagios provided by oreon-project.org; should I use the default TARs from nagios.org or the packages provided by apt-get?
[05:52] <yin_yang2k> HELP: Hi, I got a problem with the auth.log  it sometimes freeze and wont update.
[05:52] <max__> GoodGolly: ok then. how do i trans fer files ubuntu file formats ?
[05:52] <kaiska> It is possible to group 2 physical drive to make 1 partition ?
[05:52] <zambaboo> kaiska, yes
[05:52] <darkowl> where does openssl installs to when i apt-get install openssl ?
[05:52] <zambaboo> kaiska, lvm is your friend
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> still cant choose any icon for a prog ive tried png svg jpg this worked straight away on mates comp using png
[05:52] <OoberMick> munsa: ???
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> got it
[05:53] <GoodGolly> darkowl: try sudo updatedb; slocate openssl
[05:53] <yin_yang2k> HELP: Hi, I got a problem with the auth.log  it sometimes freeze and wont update with any new happenings on the system.
[05:53] <munsa> OoberMick I just cd to the folder and typed sudo dpkg -i * it went threw all the files, and then says,,,... Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[05:53] <munsa> munsa@penguinator:~/Desktop/Repositories/Cache_deb_D1$
[05:54] <OoberMick> munsa: paste to pastebin
[05:54] <max__> I didnt write my question very good sorry about that
[05:54] <munsa> ok
[05:54] <Narf> zambaboo: no, dist-upgrade doesn't work if you want to upgrade to dapper
[05:55] <kaiska> i'm starting a fresh install on a server at work, we have 2 disk, sda1 and sda2 and we would like to obtain 4 partitions : / , /boot, swap, and /var (made from the available space on sda1 and sda2). Could you help me ?
[05:55] <Cyball> hi @all somebody can help me with HP LaserJet 3100 ??? how can i configure this printer is there a driver that support this printer in Ubuntu 6.06 dapper ??? THX :-)
[05:55] <ulph> darkowl: dpkg --help, dpkg -L
[05:55] <max__> a nother job calls, i will try this later
[05:58] <DrCurl> is there a channel  for edgy?
[05:58] <bbrazil> DrCurl: #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Goop2> Im having troubles with a very simple install :\
[05:58] <sholden> Question...  has anyone successfully set up MP3 support for amaroK under Breezy?  I've been searching for answers and I do have the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package installed, but I still cant seem to play audio.  Any help would be great...
[05:59] <DrCurl> sholden: use libxine-extra
[05:59] <Goop2> I used xmms or whatever it is.. it worked for me
[05:59] <Goop2> I dont actualy remember what it was called :P
[05:59] <munsa> OoberMick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21483
[06:00] <munsa> man dunno what I did wrong
[06:00] <DrCurl> is there something I can do for the speed of my repositories, they are really slow?
[06:00] <sholden> ok....
[06:00] <ErickPC> is there support for ubuntu in spanish?
[06:00] <bbrazil> DrCurl: try a different repo?
[06:00] <mcphail> DrCurl: try a different mirror
[06:00] <ErickPC> someone speaks spanish?
[06:00] <rjm1982> DrCurl: different time
[06:00] <sholden> actually, im using dapper... brain fart
[06:00] <mcphail> !es
[06:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:00] <sholden> apologies
[06:00] <fmarostica> is There glade3 deb package for ubuntu dapper drake?
[06:01] <sholden> it's not finding libxine-extras
[06:01] <DrCurl> bbrazil: is there a repos list somewhere?
[06:01] <sholden> and i have all repos enabled in sources.list
[06:01] <bbrazil> DrCurl: probably, try CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:01] <bbrazil> DrCurl: where CC is your country code
[06:01] <DrCurl> sholden: if you search for libxine, what do you get
[06:01] <ErickPC> gracias
[06:01] <DrCurl> thanks bbrazil
[06:02] <bbrazil> DrCurl: probably a full list on the website
[06:02] <DrCurl> canada repos was fast in the past but it is now a real pain
[06:02] <boudahxl> Any xgl/compiz guru around? I installed quinn's repository packages works well btw. But synaptic is offering upgrades... Safe?
[06:02] <mcphail> DrCurl: try us repos
[06:03] <boudahxl> tx
[06:03] <OoberMick> munsa: Could the files have been corrupted?
[06:03] <Cyball> hi can somebody told me if the HP 3100 LaserJet is supported by Ubuntu ??? because i does not find the driver
[06:03] <sholden> DrCurl: libxine-main1, libxinerama1, libxine-dev, libxinerama1-dbg, libxinerama-dev
[06:03] <mcphail> boudahxl: depends on what you mean by "safe"
[06:03] <klm-> what's the quickkey for userlist on xchat?
[06:03] <DrCurl> sholden: 2 sec
[06:03] <munsa> OoberMick, I suppose, i dont know how but I suppose.  Oh .well, looks like im just gonna have to - re download everyting
[06:04] <boudahxl> mcphail: like still working after update
[06:04] <munsa> OoberMick do you have a suggestion for me, about backing up my files the next time? ?
[06:04] <mcphail> boudahxl: the quinn repos will break some things from time to time
[06:04] <yin_yang2k> HELP: Hi, I got a problem with the auth.log  it sometimes freeze and wont update with any new happenings on the system.
[06:05] <Dimensions> hi i have added a script to run on boot in cron ... but its not running any one knows why ??
[06:05] <mcphail> boudahxl: most recently they broke sub-pixel font rendering and access to synaptic
[06:05] <yin_yang2k> HELP: Hi, I got a problem with the auth.log  it sometimes freeze and wont update with any new happenings on the system. PM me
[06:05] <munsa> Where can I get a list of repositories, for like good apps and good programs I want to have a huge list of programs
[06:06] <mcphail> boudahxl: i'd suggest if you have a "stable" xgl/compiz system, comment out the quinn repo on your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <OoberMick> munsa: if you want to backup deb and not download them again i'd recommend running a mirror. the debmirror package does this. the other option is just to use get/set selection but this will require redownloading any packages that are missing
[06:06] <boudahxl> mcphail: ahh I see, but originally only quinn's repo worked for my 64bit so I was wondering... last time I updated over my quinn's (2 months ago) it broke compiz completely
[06:07] <DrCurl> sholden: libxine-extracodecs
[06:07] <DrCurl> sholden: you need to have multiverse enabled
[06:07] <mischko> How do I change the default boot operating system in Ubuntu Server?
[06:07] <mcphail> boudahxl: afaik, quinn's repo is still the only reasonable way to go for xgl, but their policy on new packages is dangerous
[06:08] <munsa> OoberMick where can I get debmirror and where can I get lists of repositories? Unsupported is ok I just want to have a big selection of apps to choose from
[06:08] <mcphail> mischko: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:08] <Cyball> HELP !!! need help with HP 3100 LaserJet .... is there a driver fot that printer ???
[06:08] <mischko> mcphail, I've seen it but I don't know what the number is for the OS I want to boot in the list. Did I miss something?
[06:08] <don_jr> Anyone around to answer some newbie to linux questions?
[06:08] <boudahxl> mcphail: thank you very much, much appreciated, I guess I'll stick with my current setup
[06:09] <boudahxl> no update I meant
[06:09] <UKMatt> hey does anyone know if the core has been fixed and OK to update?
[06:09] <toaster^> is there a command to search in installed packages?
[06:09] <don_jr> I'm completely new to *nix systems, want to try it out.  Is umbuntu the way I should go to see if I like it?
[06:10] <Thunderpants> UKMatt, check u r installing 10.4 and not 10.3
[06:10] <UKMatt> thunderpants, yup ty
[06:10] <OoberMick> munsa: debmirror is in universe
[06:10] <Thunderpants> yw :)
[06:10] <TheGateKeeper> don_jr: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide:http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[06:10] <Goop2> don_jr: I use Kubuntu.. it works pretty good for me
[06:11] <don_jr> Does it support wireless networking?  And thank you for the link
[06:11] <Warbo> Would it be relatively safe to install Edgy's deskbar-applet package in Dapper? I reported a bug for it, but apparently it is fixed in Edgy (and isn't eligable for backports)
[06:11] <modplug> ubuntu hangs after login screen, any idea what might be wrong?
[06:11] <Warbo> modplug: Have you tried a failsafe GNOME session, or a failsafe terminal?
[06:11] <tristan__> anyone familiar with samba under ubuntu?
[06:12] <modplug> no, i to be honest i wouldn't know what to do with a failsafe terminal
[06:12] <Warbo> modplug: If they work then you can try starting up GNOME one application at a time, and narrow down the problem
[06:12] <TheGateKeeper> don_jr: yw :-) I don't use wireless on linux at the moment, but I think it does, just make sure you buy linux friendly hardware
[06:12] <Gassed> has anyone here ever used a Fossil Abacus Wrist PDA?
[06:13] <urmom> hey guys
[06:13] <don_jr> deffinatly need to check that out then.  I already have the hardware installed on this PC using XP.....I'll look and see if it's compatible.. Thanx again
[06:13] <Warbo> modplug: The first thing I do in a failsafe terminal is run "gnome-terminal", since I can then run more than one program at a time
[06:13] <urmom> does bluetooth work out of the box on an ibook g4?
[06:13] <modplug> maybe it hangs because i updated xorg recently?
[06:13] <jpjacobs> any terminal can do that...
[06:14] <don_jr> oh yeah, does the unbutu gnome terminal support multiple desktops like some I've read about?  that sounds very handy
[06:14] <Warbo> modplug: There was a problem with Xorg, but I think it has been fixed. Also, that problem stopped X loading at all
[06:14] <Ng> don_jr: multiple tabs? ctrl-shift-t :)
[06:14] <don_jr> great!
[06:15] <Gassed> How do I HotSync a USB connected Palm OS Device with J-Pilot or KPilot?
[06:15] <TheGateKeeper> don_jr: you can get wireless with linux drivers otherwise: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.29
[06:15] <drpc> help
[06:15] <drpc> install kde
[06:15] <drpc> how
[06:15] <Warbo> urmom: I find KDE's bluetooth is more "out-of-the-box", since in GNOME you need to start some servers, setup PIN config files, etc. (and I still end up using Konqueror for file transfers anyway)
[06:15] <modplug> i tried to ctrl-alt-backspace and then startx ... it hangs while loading window manager
[06:15] <Warbo> drpc: go into a package manager and install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:16] <Warbo> modplug: Is this just regular GNOME, or some weird XGL/AIGLX/Compiz thingy?
[06:16] <don_jr> what's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu it's self?
[06:16] <rjm1982> is there a kde alternate to gnome-network-manager ... that seems to be the only way i can reliably (read: automatically) connect to the different WPA networks i connect to...
[06:16] <Warbo> don_jr: Just the default packages that are installed
[06:16] <bbrazil> rjm1982: as is I believe that is the best way to do it
[06:17] <don_jr> okay, as a first timer I'm going to keep it simple and just go with what I have downloaded...lol
[06:17] <modplug> this is of course XGL / compiz :)
[06:17] <Warbo> Kubuntu is in main, so it is still the same package repos for both
[06:17] <sholden> DrCurl: I have "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse" in my sources.list, shouldnt that do the trick?
[06:17] <drpc> E: Broken packages
[06:18] <Warbo> modplug: OK, then it seems to be Compiz which is failing. You could try using Metacity to see if it really is
[06:18] <don_jr> Okay and last idiot question.  Are there many retail games and other software out that will run in a *nix system? or is it all have to be found and DL'd?
[06:18] <DrCurl> sholden: no
[06:18] <drpc> E: Broken packages
[06:18] <Dru> nn all
[06:18] <AlexThunder> !xgl
[06:18] <modplug> Warbo: change theme?
[06:18] <Goop2> don_jr: not much, but there is some
[06:18] <drpc> i get erorr E: Broken packages
[06:18] <esc_ape> so, I have a question about the forums. how long does it take for a howto thread to be reviewed and posted? I created a howto and posted the thread over 24 hours ago and its still not up.
[06:18] <sholden> DrCurl: what do i need to add?
[06:18] <DrCurl> sholden: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[06:19] <Goshawk> hi
[06:19] <DrCurl> sholden: disable the backports
[06:19] <don_jr> Okay, so why choose linux over windows or mac if the software is so limited?
[06:19] <warlock> how to "join" a screen session again?
[06:20] <Ng> screen -r
[06:20] <Goop2> don_jr: I personaly think its faster, has less glitches, FAR less chance of malware..
[06:20] <Warbo> modprobe: Metacity is GNOME's default window manager. Compiz replaces it, so if it is Compiz screwing up then trying Metacity should work
[06:20] <Goshawk> don_jr: look around you and let me know if you don't find enought software
[06:20] <Goop2> don_jr: I have a dual boot: Kubuntu and WindowsXP
[06:20] <munsa> Where can I get a list of Ubuntu File Reposatories??
[06:21] <Ng> don_jr: because, with literally thousands of packages available to install, you generally find whatever you want already available for free. Granted games are an unfortuntae exception to this if you want the latest, flashy games
[06:21] <dr_willis> don_jr,  i dont find the software limited.
[06:21] <Goshawk> munsa: you can locate a package in a ubuntu version in packages.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <don_jr> Goop2: I've thought of doing that.
[06:21] <Warbo> don_jr: I find Windows and OSX FAR too limited. You should really have a go on my PC to see what crazy stuff I have it doing :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> Games are for the weak. :)
[06:21] <sholden> DrCurl: I owe you one.  Thanks a lot!
[06:21] <munsa> Goshawk: Thanks man
[06:21] <don_jr> then I"m weak....but I want it for more than that.
[06:21] <Goop2> hehe
[06:21] <don_jr> games I can play on my laptop when I'm bored....lol
[06:22] <Goshawk> munsa: you are welcome
[06:22] <modplug> Warbo, but to use it it requires an exisiting x-server right? - startx hangs at loading window manager
[06:22] <DrCurl> sholden: np, was a pleasure to help
[06:22] <Warbo> Commercial games do seem to be a problem. Gish is very hit and miss for me (currently it misses all the time, and I have to restart X)
[06:22] <Goshawk> dr_willis: you are right, coding is better :D
[06:22] <Ng> don_jr: fire up synaptic and search for "game" or "games" or something like that, you'll find a lot of things that are fun to play for a few minutes ;)
[06:22] <Goop2> don_jr: do you have a spare hard drive kicking around somewhere?
[06:22] <don_jr> I DL'd Solaris 10 and I can't get it to install properly, then was told about ubuntu....1 disk compared to the 5 for solaris...it's worth a shot.  I can always reformat and go back...lol
[06:22] <dr_willis> Goshawk,  or chatting in IRC
[06:23] <Dimensions> how do u save something after editing in nano ?
[06:23] <DrCurl> wow, us repos is waaaaaaaayyyy faster than ca
[06:23] <Goop2> don_jr: maybe that 80 year old computer youve been saving? :P
[06:23] <don_jr> Goop2 I may have another HD but if so it's old and very small
[06:23] <Warbo> modplug: Try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to bring the login window back. GDM doesn't load a window manager until you login (so log into a failsafe terminal)
[06:23] <warlock> thanks for the screen help
[06:23] <don_jr> I think maybe 4g is the biggest I have available
[06:23] <Ng> Dimensions: ctrl-o (the letter o, not the number 0)
[06:23] <Goshawk> don_jr: the differencies between solaris and ubuntu are not only 9 cds...
[06:23] <Warbo> Dimensions: I use ctrl-X (exit) then it asks me. Press Y then Enter
[06:23] <Ng> Dimensions: it should say at the bottom
[06:23] <dr_willis> don_jr,  define 'old and small' :) 4gb is good for a ubunut test system
[06:23] <don_jr> I'm hopeing ubuntu will be worth it.
[06:24] <Dimensions> Ng:  it says ^O write out
[06:24] <Warbo> brb
[06:24] <Goop2> don_jr: actualy.. try running a live CD without installing..
[06:24] <Ng> Dimensions: that's bizarrely arcane wording for "Press ctrl-o to save"
[06:24] <don_jr> live CD?  I'm new to this stuff, what's that mean?
[06:24] <Ng> Dimensions: ^ usually means ctrl, "write out" is just unhelpful ;)
[06:24] <don_jr> windows only for 20 years has my head linux stupid
[06:24] <Goop2> don_jr: hehe
[06:24] <modplug> Warbo: yeah, tried that... it "hangs" after login
[06:24] <Dimensions> thanks Ng
[06:25] <Dimensions> :P
[06:25] <avu> don_jr: 20 years ago, there was no windows in existance, so you are truely something special ;p
[06:25] <don_jr> 16% of DL....this is gonna take a while...lol
[06:25] <don_jr> bah, you know what I mean
[06:25] <Goop2> don_jr: Using a Live CD you run off of memory instead of your hard drive. You wont have to install and lose everything
[06:25] <don_jr> smart ass
[06:25] <don_jr> lol
[06:25] <avu> you left me no choice :(
[06:25] <ancorey> ol  TODOS
[06:25] <avu> ;)
[06:25] <don_jr> Goop2 where can I get that?
[06:25] <Gnonthgol> don_jr: Linux can be run from all typed of partisions: first, last, CD, USB, over network, you name it
[06:26] <Goop2> don_jr: should be on the site with the other ones
[06:26] <munsa> GoshHawk : I want to add all of these files to Synaptic or something so I can go threw and just click and install them what do I just add packages.ubuntu.com to my etc/apt/sources.list file???
[06:26] <Goop2> don_jr: Ill look
[06:26] <marianet> hello
[06:26] <Ng> avu: windows 1.0 was released in 1985 ;p
[06:26] <marianet> hello, can anybody help me
[06:26] <marianet> i have installed knoppix,
[06:27] <avu> ng: doh! but, erm, well, nobidy used that one anyway!
[06:27] <marianet> and i would like
[06:27] <marianet> to install ubuntu right now,
[06:27] <ompaul> marianet, you should go to #knoppix
[06:27] <marianet> no, wait
[06:27] <Ng> don_jr: if you're downloading the regular install CD for dapper, that is a live cd too, when you boot from it, it will boot a regular ubuntu and then offer an install icon on the desktop
[06:27] <marianet> does ubuntu erase all the instalation
[06:27] <don_jr> Okay, going to save this channel and work on things for a bit.  I'll install ubuntu on my laptop so I don't mess up my good PC here.  I'll keep this up and remember the channel for later use.  Thank you all very much
[06:27] <marianet> i supose
[06:28] <Gnonthgol> marianet: The easyest is to install ubuntu from a install cd
[06:28] <Goop2> don_jr: I just remembered.. there is no Live CD for Dapper Drake.. The install CD IS Live
[06:28] <msoul> mmmm, why am I getting this msg *fluxbox depends: menu (>= 2.1.19) but it is not installable? and how can I fix it?
[06:28] <jake1> i'm hoping someone in here can help me out
[06:28] <dudus> marianet: if you have enogh space in a different hard drive or partition you can install ubuntu there, without affecting other partitions
[06:28] <don_jr> I'm downloading Ubuntu fomr the site it's self, what ever that is is what it is.  I believe it's a live CD with the option to install later
[06:29] <marianet> does lilo recognize others partitions? i have windows, and knopix already installed
[06:29] <Ng> don_jr: that should indeed be the case :)
[06:29] <Goop2> don_jr: its got a button on it to install from a live session
[06:29] <don_jr> good
[06:29] <modplug> Warbo: yeah, tried that... it "hangs" after login
[06:29] <don_jr> We'll see what happens in a couple hours after it finishes installing then
[06:29] <don_jr> thanx again and ya'll have a good day
[06:29] <dudus> marianet: ubuntu uses grub and yes it recognizes
[06:29] <marianet> how many space do i need to install ubuntu=?
[06:29] <marianet> disk space?
[06:29] <dudus> marianet: most of the times
[06:30] <ok> hello
[06:30] <Tourinho> hello there... I have a x700 graphic card and it used to work very well... but some time ago I upgrade my system and since then my graphic doesnt work.. does anyone know what could happened?
[06:30] <jake1> i tried to install Ubuntu today on my AMD64 ML-32 Turion Acer Aspire 5003WLMi laptop but i can't read anything on the installation part cuz most of the screen is black, the only part that shows up is the far right hand side
[06:30] <dudus> marianet: I would give it 2GB minimum
[06:30] <marianet> thanks dudus
[06:30] <dudus> marianet: but it's possible to install in a smaller partition
[06:30] <jake1> does Ubuntu support my graphics card?
[06:31] <marianet> does ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso is all writhg?
[06:31] <jake1> this version is 5.04
[06:31] <munsa> Hello, I keep having this problem everything I try to install I keep getting this error that the file is not located in any  channel.   as well as this  Depends: libsdl-mixer1.2 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable
[06:31] <ok> I have ubuntu and I'm trying to upgrade it to 6.06 and it says he can't downloda some files
[06:31] <modplug> how can i tell gnome to use another window manager? - xgl seems to fail (it hangs)
[06:31] <LOLZebra> secret
[06:31] <ok> is ther problem on the server?
[06:31] <munsa> or some other thing says that it needs dependancys
[06:32] <msoul> mmmm, why am I getting this msg *fluxbox depends: menu (>= 2.1.19) but it is not installable? and how can I fix it?
[06:32] <ok> someone?
[06:32] <mindtrickx> i have an ubuntu 5.x cd, can i upgrade it by internet to a 6.x version? or shoul i download the latest iso ?
[06:33] <dr_willis> mindtrickx,  get the lastst iso
[06:33] <dr_willis> will save you a lot of time
[06:33] <munsa> I can't install anything
[06:33] <mindtrickx> thanks i will
[06:33] <munsa> from the repos
[06:33] <munsa> can someone help me please
[06:33] <jake1> can anyone talk me through the installation process of Ubuntu
[06:34] <dr_willis> jake1,  download live cd... boot it.. click install icon.
[06:34] <dr_willis> !install
[06:34] <rjm1982> jake, insert cd, hit install, answer (6 i think) questions, wait, be happy
[06:34] <munsa> It keeps telling me that I have unresolved dependancies
[06:34] <munsa> a whole bunch of libxxxx files
[06:34] <dr_willis> jake1,  what video card is in that laptop?
[06:34] <munsa> i dont knwow here or how to install them
[06:35] <jake1> rjm1982 i tried to do that, but only part of the installation shows up
[06:35] <user__> How to change to user "root"?
[06:35] <dr_willis> user__,  sudo -s
[06:35] <msoul> any of you guys would like to help me figure out this
[06:35] <msoul> I keep getting this msg *fluxbox depends: menu (>= 2.1.19) but it is not installable? and how can I fi4x it?
[06:36] <dr_willis> msoul,  rerun sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, then try again
[06:36] <wheels3572> !logitech > wheels3572
[06:36] <user__> dr_willis: thank you. ;)
[06:36] <wizard> Recently, alt+f2 stopped bringing up the run command window.  This is incorrect because the keyboard shortcut application says that alt+f2 should bring up the run dialog.  Alt + f7 works, as well as f10, f5, and f4 combinations.  Can I revive my run command shortcut?
[06:36] <wheels3572> Ahhh no Ubotu
[06:36] <msoul> dr_willis: it'd break X would it?
[06:36] <dr_willis> user__,  root ussage is Faq #1. :P
[06:36] <user__> Ha!
[06:36] <dr_willis> msoul,  i dont know if the X issue is fixed yet or not.
[06:37] <jake1> SiS M760 dr_willis
[06:37] <dr_willis> jake1,  you could always download and use the alternative install cd. it has a text based installer
[06:37] <wheels3572> Since Ubotu isn't around can anyone tell me how and if my Logitech QUickCam Express will work iwth Ubuntu?>
[06:37] <wizard> Thanks! That worked!
[06:38] <jake1> oh
[06:39] <jake1> how do i make a boot cd in XP
[06:39] <jake1> i'm normally a Mac user
[06:39] <dr_willis> a boot cd?  to boot what?
[06:39] <jake1> to boot Ubuntu installer
[06:40] <rhyddin> don't need one .. boot off the ubuntu cd
[06:40] <dr_willis> to burn an .iso file under windows - i reccomend you download and use the 'burn at once' tool
[06:40] <dr_willis> which is free/gpl
[06:40] <jake1> rhyddin: if i had a ubuntu cd tht would be great
[06:40] <rhyddin> lol
[06:40] <harisund> I have a question guys. Is it possible to create a SSH tunnel to and from the local machine itself? I want to tunnel traffic through 8888 to port 80 on the same machine :)
[06:40] <rhyddin> yeah, I guess that's the rub
[06:42] <iGama> how do i create a .deb for dictionary files like myspell ? i have de .dic and .aff, does anyone know?
[06:42] <dravas> !grub
[06:42] <mcphail> harisund: it would probably work, but isn't there a better way?
[06:43] <ubuntu> .
[06:44] <ubuntu> ...
[06:44] <iGama> how do i create a .deb for dictionary files like myspell ? i have de .dic and .aff, does anyone know??
[06:44] <Goop2> is it possible to run Linux, Windows, and mac at the same time using the same moniter?
[06:44] <bbrazil> Goop2: get a KVM
[06:45] <Goop2> clicking on a button to switch between computers?
[06:45] <wizard> How do I set my default audio player?
[06:45] <mcphail> Goop2: see what bbrazil said
[06:45] <Goop2> whats KVM?
[06:46] <jpjacobs> Goop2 there is synergy...
[06:46] <dr_willis> synergy is handy at times.
[06:46] <jake1> dr_willis i'm having some difficulty finding that program
[06:46] <Goop2> Im just curius for later
[06:46] <mindtrickx> is there other linux versions of the synaptics tool? suse,gentoo ?
[06:46] <mcphail> Goop2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch
[06:46] <Hexidigital> ubotu broken?
[06:46] <dr_willis> Goop2,  however. vnc may help you in you needs.
[06:46] <jake1> google is not helping
[06:47] <w30> Goop2, TigerDirect Com has keyboard and monitor switches for about 25 bucks
[06:47] <dr_willis> jake1,  Hmm.. ya may be spelling it wrong. :P check sourceforge? freshmeat?
[06:47] <jake1> burn at once?
[06:47] <dr_willis> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[06:47] <Goop2> w30: hmm.. I guess I would want that too wouldent I? :P
[06:47] <dr_willis> 'burn at once' a cd iso writing tool. for windows. GPL.
[06:48] <Goop2> wow.. thats awsome! :D
[06:48] <w30> Goop2, have you got a touch screen?
[06:48] <Goop2> nope
[06:49] <iGama> i wanna create a .deb for dictinary files and cant find nothing :S
[06:49] <javiolo> I have 5 computers and a server connected to a router, is there any way that the server dont have internet connexion ?
[06:49] <Goop2> Ill have to remember that thing when I get another computer though :D
[06:49] <dr_willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/
[06:49] <rsk> anyone know howto install cdemu?
[06:49] <rsk> or know of something that does the same
[06:50] <w30> Goop2, I do, my grand daughter doesn't just point at the screen . she touches it - peanut butter hands or not.
[06:50] <dr_willis> Its fun when the kids sneeze on the screen...
[06:50] <dr_willis> while eating PB&J
[06:50] <Goop2> hehe
[06:51] <wheels3572> Does anyone know if Logitech is supported in Linux?
[06:51] <teicah> my usb mouse works
[06:51] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  logitech makes a LOT of things. :P
[06:51] <wheels3572> Quick Cam Express
[06:51] <bradAWAY> Logitech is a company name. Logitech mouses?
[06:51] <w30> dr_willis, or adults drinking coffee and reading Groklaw :=)
[06:51] <dr_willis> wheels3572,  i would say check google.
[06:51] <wheels3572> Ok I can check
[06:51] <teicah> my usb mouse works
[06:52] <wheels3572> How woudl I know if ANY Logitech is loaded into Linux
[06:52] <wheels3572> lol ok
[06:52] <Goop2> I hate it when I sneeze on my moniter :\
[06:52] <dr_willis> Ive tried several different web cams and none of them worked for me under linux.. ive had bad luck with webcams
[06:53] <Goop2> dr_willis: I think you can make them work with downloaded software
[06:53] <jake1> ok..... got it
[06:53] <jake1> thanx dr_willis
[06:53] <dr_willis> Goop2,  i just tossed them in the back of a closet. :)
[06:53] <drbreen> dr_willis: woa i tried one and it worked flawlessly
[06:53] <Goop2> dr_willis: thats what I heard anyway
[06:53] <bradbury> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/devices.shtml
[06:53] <jake1> is there a particulare image i should look for to get the text based version of the Ubuntu Installer
[06:53] <teicah> my usb mouse works
[06:53] <dr_willis> the PS2 Eyetoy cam - gives the best pic for me on the XP machine. :)
[06:53] <jake1> particular*
[06:54] <dr_willis> jake1,  its called the 'alternative' isntaller/cd
[06:55] <bradbury> dr_willis, u can also check http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/hardware.shtml
[06:56] <Centaur5> Could anybody tell me if the intel 3945 wireless card is supposed to have support for WPA?
[06:56] <sholden> has anyone had trouble setting the shortcut key for deskbar?  I'd like to set it to alt-` or win-`.  what's the correct syntax to put into the shortcut field?
[06:56] <doctorshim> hey!
[06:57] <doctorshim> there was a recent update for the X window system... :/
[06:57] <foomanchew> anyone tried Ubuntu on G4 poerbook
[06:57] <foomanchew> oops powerbook
[06:57] <doctorshim> and now I can't get X running anymore.
[06:57] <doctorshim> Has this happened to anyone else?
[06:57] <jkernsjr> anyone here have trouble with dapper and not being able to change the "open with" in nautilus?
[06:57] <foomanchew> doctorshim, there is an update for that
[06:57] <mcphail> doctorshim: there has been a further update which fixes this
[06:57] <g-nome>  how can i tell rhythmbox NOT to open when an iPod is plugged in?
[06:57] <doctorshim> foomanchew, mcphail: I'll check it out.
[06:57] <ryan_> yea
[06:57] <fdoving> foomanchew: i run it on a G4 iBook, and it's great :)
[06:57] <ryan_> it's really annoying
[06:57] <ryan_> I hate rythmbox
[06:57] <foomanchew> fdoving, wiireless ?
[06:57] <axisme> on a side note, macs suck
[06:58] <fdoving> foomanchew: works.
[06:58] <ryan_> you suck
[06:58] <Ng> g-nome: system->preferences->removeable drives and media, then in the multimedia tab i think, you can untick the media players option
[06:58] <foomanchew> axisme, I aint asking
[06:58] <jkernsjr> anyone here have trouble with dapper and not being able to change the "open with" in nautilus?
[06:58] <axisme> Mine died after the first week :-(
[06:58] <foomanchew> fdoving, from the get go or do i have to patch
[06:58] <doctorshim> ah! I see the update.
[06:58] <foomanchew> axisme, must be a lemon
[06:58] <axisme> then the second one was getting to scarily high temps
[06:58] <cello_rasp> does anyone know how i can get the blackdown java for ubuntu easily
[06:59] <fdoving> doctorshim: to fix x: login to the console. run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart', voila.
[06:59] <g-nome> Ng: thanks!
[06:59] <axisme> at that stage i got my money back
[06:59] <fdoving> foomanchew: no patching, works by default.
[06:59] <califfo> did anyone of you use rssh's mkchroot script without problems? I 'd like to run a secure ftp server
[06:59] <doctorshim> fdoving, I'm updating X right now.
[06:59] <foomanchew> fdoving, I am about to run through the install
[06:59] <doctorshim> thanks for tips.
[06:59] <fdoving> doctorshim: great :)
[06:59] <Ng> cello_rasp: do you specifically want the blackdown one? sun's java is available in the dapper repositories (as is blackdown)
[06:59] <cello_rasp> sun jre is terribly slow
[06:59] <foomanchew> fdoving, does it support WPA personal and enterprise ?
[07:00] <TheGateKeeper> cello_rasp: any particular reason you want that one?
[07:00] <Ng> cello_rasp: blackdown is just the sun one recompiled afaik, I'd seriously doubt it'd be faster than sun's
[07:00] <doctorshim> Meanwhile I'm updating my Gentoo box. ^.^
[07:00] <axisme> foomanchew you might need to install gnome network manager for that
[07:00] <foomanchew> ah
[07:00] <doctorshim> Sure's slower than Ubuntu...
[07:00] <cello_rasp> Ng they are actually different
[07:00] <Ng> cello_rasp: but anyway, blackdown is the j2re1.4 package and sun's is sun-java5-bin, both in multiverse
[07:01] <Elephant> hi all
[07:01] <munsa> Hello, can someone please help me? I am having problems installing any packages, everytime  I try to install from the add/remove thing it says, "not avaiable in any channel" Then whenever I try to install from apt-get or something else I get some wierd dependancy error
[07:01] <munsa> libstdc++2.10-dbg
[07:01] <cello_rasp> Gentoo: because you don't have much of a life to actually USE your computer
[07:01] <Elephant> Does anyone know anything about resolvconf?  I'm getting error messages on startup along the lines of "mkdir: failed to create /var/run/network"
[07:01] <doctorshim> cello_rasp: LOL!
[07:01] <cello_rasp> thanks Ng..
[07:01] <fdoving> foomanchew: not sure,only tested WEP. You can read more about it at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:01] <foomanchew> munsa, did u amend your /etc/apt/source.list
[07:02] <axisme> foomanchew , network-manager-gnome if you cant find it
[07:02] <doctorshim> I see it more as a toy. :)
[07:02] <axisme> I couldn't get wpa working on this laptop till i installed that
[07:02] <Elephant> I started having problems after I moved /var onto a new partition
[07:02] <film> does anyone here use dillo?
[07:02] <foomanchew> gnome-nettool - network information tool for GNOME
[07:02] <axisme> nope
[07:02] <doctorshim> Elephant: What FS is /var formatted as?
[07:02] <axisme> foomanchew , network-manager-gnome if you cant find it
[07:03] <axisme> thats the package name
[07:03] <doctorshim> Is it being auto mounted, etc?
[07:03] <foomanchew> axisme, network-manager-gnome
[07:03] <foomanchew> its there
[07:03] <axisme> yeps
[07:03] <munsa> foomanchew I did yes
[07:03] <axisme> installed already?
[07:04] <cica> !snoop
[07:04] <cica> Hi guys
[07:04] <foomanchew> fdoving, are u using builtin wireless or a card ?
[07:04] <cica> anyone know where the snoop command is in Ubuntu?
[07:05] <Sp4rKy> please
[07:05] <bbrazil> cica: this isn't solaris. Use tcpdump
[07:05] <fdoving> foomanchew: builtin.
[07:05] <Sp4rKy> what's the software for manage gpg key
[07:05] <foomanchew> fdoving, thx
[07:05] <cica> bbrazil: that the closest thing to snoop?
[07:05] <wsjunior> is there any netinst iso of ubuntu?
[07:05] <bbrazil> cica: yip
[07:05] <erUSUL> Sp4rKy: gpg
[07:05] <foomanchew> Sp4rKy, type apt-cache search pgp
[07:05] <cica> bbrazil: pity coz snoop's a very useful debugging tool
[07:06] <foomanchew> Sp4rKy, type apt-cache search gpg
[07:06] <lophyte> Sp4rKy: seahorse is a GUI manager for gpg keys
[07:06] <foomanchew> oops
[07:06] <foomanchew> anybody using the r/w NTFS drivers?
[07:06] <wsjunior> is there any netinst iso of ubuntu?
[07:06] <Sp4rKy> lophyte, it's seahorse :D thx
[07:06] <lophyte> anyone know how to have a script run automatically when you mount an fs? kinda like an autorun.inf in Windows
[07:07] <bbrazil> cica: you could try tethereal
[07:07] <harisund> foomanchew: I do use the read write ntfs driver ntfs-3g if that is what you are talking about ..
[07:07] <cica> bbrazil: yeah I suppose thats another alternative...
[07:07] <cica> bbrazil: thanks anyway :-)
[07:07] <bhoman> quit
[07:07] <harisund> bhoman /quit perhaps?
[07:08] <cica> bbrazil: do you have any knowledge on VPN?
[07:08] <bbrazil> cica: I know they exist
[07:08] <brandon_> which repository is azureus in?
[07:08] <cica> bbrazil: :-D I see
[07:10] <jkernsjr> what would make it so I can no longer select in the "open with" menu of nautilus?
[07:10] <Warbo> jkernsjr: That menu wouldn't come up if there is only one program assigned to a file. Check in Properties>Open With
[07:11] <mcphail> jkernsjr: nautilus is periodically cranky about such things. Right click on the file and select "properties"
[07:11] <wsjunior> which is the best distro today to use xgl?
[07:11] <jkernsjr> I went to the open with dialog but it wont let me change it from the defalut
[07:11] <wsjunior> is there any netinst iso of ubuntu?
[07:11] <jkernsjr> It works on my other ubuntu box but not on this one
[07:11] <Warbo> wsjunior: Ubuntu and Gentoo probably have the most people using it, so more people to offer help
[07:12] <munsa> can someone please pelase with sugar on top help me figure out what is wrong, I cant install any files, whenever I try i get dependancy errors and when i try add-remove it tells me that the file is not avaiable in any of the repositories
[07:12] <wsjunior> Warbo: is there any netinst iso of ubuntu avaliabe?
[07:12] <mcphail> wsjunior: it is a Novell development, so the SuSE implementation might be quite good
[07:12] <wsjunior> i hate to install ubuntu and have to upgrade more than 100 packages
[07:12] <Warbo> munsa: Try doing this first "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install" < that will sort out any current broken packages
[07:13] <wsjunior> mcphail: is there any netinst iso of ubuntu avaliable?
[07:13] <mcphail> wsjunior: no
[07:13] <DShepherd> nalioth: you around.. I could use some of your wisdom right now?
[07:13] <wsjunior> damn :(
[07:13] <jkernsjr> Warbo: would some funky rights issue keep me from changeing it?
[07:13] <woodgrain> I can't increase screen resolution -- where can I learn how to fix it?
[07:13] <Warbo> wsjunior: If you want to install packages over the network then debootstrap would be a good idea, but takes a little more setting up
[07:13] <nalioth> DShepherd: there is plenty of wisdom in this channel
[07:14] <wsjunior> thats really bad.... i have to install ubuntu and after upgrade more than 100 packafges
[07:14] <bahadir> hello
[07:14] <DShepherd> nalioth: see.. wise stuff like that i nee
[07:14] <DShepherd> d
[07:14] <Warbo> jkernsjr: I don't know. I wouldn't think so, because those settings are stored on a per-user basis, so it is not like it would mess up someone else's settings
[07:14] <woodgrain> gnome only goes up to 1280 ... monitor is 1600
[07:14] <Warbo> !fixres > woodgrain
[07:14] <jkernsjr> Warbo: If i run nautilus as root I can change them!
[07:15] <woodgrain> !fixres
[07:15] <mcphail> Warbo: ubotu is dead
[07:15] <userone> my friends laptop screen is damaged (no image) but ubuntu is still booting up (I assume). I also use ubuntu but I don't know how to connect to his machine and rescue his files. Can anyone help?
[07:15] <woodgrain> mcphail, who killed ubotu
[07:15] <munsa> Warbo :  what can I add to my sources.list file to get a massive file list? I want to have a lot of options you know try out alot of new software
[07:15] <Warbo> jkernsjr: That will either be 1) the files need root permission, or more likely b) root's settings aren't screwed up, but yours are
[07:15] <munsa> ?
[07:15] <bahadir> can you tell me how may I restore my settings in the gdmsetup
[07:15] <mcphail> woodgrain: not guilty
[07:15] <jkernsjr> userone: take his hard drive out and put it in another machine
[07:15] <Warbo> munsa: Do you have Universe and Multiverse?
[07:15] <woodgrain> mcphail, is there another "fixres" tutorial?
[07:15] <surgy> hello
[07:16] <FlimFlamMan> i have a really trivial question... i need to create a shared directory for users on a server.  what
[07:16] <mr3vil> surgy: welcome
[07:16] <jkernsjr> Warbo: I think its the later..where would I find someone who know a lot about nautilus?
[07:16] <munsa> i dont know
[07:16] <seth> Does vim come w/syntax highlighting and if so how can i turn it on?
[07:16] <munsa> Warbo
[07:16] <surgy> mr3vil: thanks
[07:16] <FlimFlamMan> i have a really trivial question... i need to create a shared directory for users on a server.  what's the most appropriate place for that?  /usr/local/?  /var/local/?
[07:16] <bbrazil> seth: :syntax on
[07:16] <Warbo> !universe > munsa
[07:16] <eternalswd> how do I cp a directory?
[07:16] <mcphail> woodgrain: i can'r remember the url, im afraid. try searching the wiki
[07:16] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: /srv
[07:16] <munsa> Warbo I havent got the whole repo thing down yet
[07:16] <Warbo> eternalswd: "cp -r directory newlocation"
[07:16] <seth> bbrazil: thanks i forgot it
[07:16] <surgy> anyone mind helping me with apollon?
[07:16] <woodgrain> mcphail, is there a wiki jst for ubuntu?
[07:16] <DShepherd> I am trying to build compiz from source and seemingly its says it depends on libstartup-notification-1.0. The latest release is 0.8.  How can i get around this?
[07:16] <Warbo> help.ubuntu.com/community
[07:17] <mcphail> woodgrain: yes
[07:17] <jordanau> is compiz worth it?
[07:17] <Warbo> I don't think so
[07:17] <DShepherd> jordanau: maybe..
[07:17] <munsa> Warbo : I cant get instant messages on this thing. Its not Xchat its like gnome chat or something
[07:17] <jordanau> does it make things more unstable?
[07:17] <mcphail> jordanau: yes
[07:17] <Warbo> Mind you, I don't like Metacity, and Compiz seems like a crappier version of Metacity
[07:17] <mcphail> jordanau: very much so
[07:17] <Warbo> !universe
[07:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:17] <jordanau> i like stable
[07:18] <mcphail> jordanau: don't use compiz! :)
[07:18] <jordanau> haha
[07:18] <userone> jkernsjr: thanks...its an old compaq laptop..so he doesnt want to replace the screen..if I remove the hard drive it will only fit into another compaq laptop, right?
[07:18] <woodgrain> mcphail, you are the greatezt
[07:18] <mcphail> woodgrain: what have i done???
[07:18] <jordanau> why do two instances of mplayer plugin crash firefox?
[07:18] <Warbo> Compiz's task-bar-like thing with live previews? Crashes Compiz every time I turned it on
[07:18] <kmasta> i have a quick question, i just dled the latest tarball for firefox, where should i extract it to?
[07:18] <mr3vil> munsa: xchat gnome irc chat
[07:18] <exs> useruserz no, itll fit in any laptop
[07:19] <woodgrain> mcphail, uh ... be helpful an d  nice!
[07:19] <jordanau> kmasta, i would stick to the repos
[07:19] <jkernsjr> userone: should work on any laptop
[07:19] <mcphail> woodgrain: *blushes*
[07:19] <DShepherd> so .. any suggestions?
[07:19] <kmasta> jordan: how do i do that, the .tar.gz file is sitting on my desktop right now
[07:19] <Warbo> kmasta: Either stick to Ubuntu's repos, or search around for an already compiled Ubuntu package of the latest FF
[07:20] <jordanau> kmasta, is there a reason you are trying to change your firefox version?
[07:20] <bahadir> can someone tell me how to restore the command line to default gnome settings in gdmsetup ?
[07:20] <matthew_w> I'm having a problem with login, it crashes and says "no screens found" when X tries to start.
[07:20] <holy_cow> Is there a Ubuntu security chan?
[07:20] <matthew_w> Can anyone help me with this?
[07:20] <PMantis> Can anyone help with vmware on dapper?
[07:20] <jordanau> matthew_w, /topic
[07:20] <kmasta> yea, i just want to be using the latest verison
[07:20] <mcphail> matthew_w: update and upgrade
[07:20] <PMantis> FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format
[07:20] <bahadir> tried to set Xgl with "usr/bin/Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer" but it failed
[07:20] <w30> user-land, it doesn't need to fit, just wire it up for another computer and let it set on the desk or hang. Just be careful with making a short by knocking it around
[07:20] <bahadir> and now I dont remember the default command line
[07:21] <kmasta> i'm using the 1.5.0.5 right now, and i wanna use 1.5.0.6
[07:21] <DShepherd> kmasta: that's a windows fix.. 1.5.0.6
[07:21] <jordanau> kmasta, unless you really need it i would wait until it is updated with dapper
[07:21] <userone> jkernsjr: ok..I'll try to find a spare laptop..until then..can I connect my laptop to his via my router?
[07:21] <kmasta> allright
[07:21] <kmasta> sounds good
[07:22] <jordanau> mcphail, so it is safe to update upgrade now
[07:22] <nalioth> DShepherd: what did you need?
[07:22] <user-land> w30, did you mean me ?
[07:22] <DShepherd> nalioth: windows fix?
[07:22] <jkernsjr> userone: sure, if you both have a network card. then you can mount his hard drive. or if ssh is running on it you can ssh to it. you will have to know what IP address it picks up though.
[07:22] <mcphail> jordanau: yes
[07:22] <nalioth> DShepherd: i don't understand
[07:22] <pattyD> I tried to upgrade to dapper, but I have a big issue..... gnome was not upgraded because it looks like several packages were "held back", at least thats what "apt-get dist-upgrade" says
[07:23] <jordanau> mcphail, thanks
[07:23] <seth> Why aren't the header files in /usr/include?
[07:23] <pattyD> how do I resolve these "held back" packages?
[07:23] <gdb> Does anyone know how to manually acknowledge the "System restart required" notification?
[07:23] <Gecko> pattyD: try to apt-get install them manually
[07:23] <w30> user-land, oops name completion goes wrong again
[07:23] <mcphail> seth: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:23] <seth> mcphail: hm
[07:23] <seth> k
[07:24] <user-land> interestingly, some wmv's are playing well on amd64 :-)
[07:24] <user-land> how come ?
[07:24] <matthew_w> ... uh, the topic is a web page.... how do I do that without X?
[07:24] <pattyD> no dice when I try to install them individually, I get this error:
[07:24] <pattyD> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:24] <pattyD>   cupsys: Depends: libcupsimage2 (>= 1.2.1) but 1.1.23-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[07:24] <pattyD>           Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:24] <pattyD> E: Broken packages
[07:24] <jordanau> matthew_w, sudo apt-get install lynx
[07:24] <jordanau> !flood
[07:24] <Gecko> matthew_w: apt-get install links or lynx
[07:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:24] <nalioth> pattyD: please don't paste in here
[07:24] <seth> Gecko: links ftw because of fb :D
[07:24] <xxpor> matthew_w, apt-get install lynx
[07:24] <xxpor> :P
[07:24] <pattyD> whoops, sorry about that
[07:24] <DShepherd> nalioth: trying to build compiz from source. on doing that compiz says it depends on libstartup-notification-1.0. the latest release (I checked) is 0.8. So it seems that some script is wrong.
[07:24] <erUSUL> pattyD: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade ??
[07:24] <mcphail> matthew_w: type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade"
[07:25] <DShepherd> nalioth: how does one, like me, get around that
[07:25] <nalioth> DShepherd: file a bug
[07:25] <DShepherd> nalioth: ok
[07:25] <mcphail> *apt-get
[07:25] <|thunder> nalioth, dont harass people for pasting 4 lines. thats not a nusince
[07:25] <seth> mcphail: forkbomb.c:1:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[07:25] <seth> forkbomb.c:2:20: unistd.h: No such file or directory
[07:25] <seth> lol
[07:25] <matthew_w> mcphail; doing that, the compiz repos are down atm, so it's going so slowly it's unbearable, but it's going.
[07:25] <gdb> Does anyone know how to manually acknowledge the "System restart required" notification?
[07:25] <nalioth> !tell |thunder about guidelines
[07:25] <seth> Yes, I'm sad, to test the headers I'm trying to make a local forkbomb lmao
[07:25] <|thunder> i know the guidelines
[07:26] <mcphail> matthew_w: the sensible thing would be to remove the compiz repos from your sources.list
[07:26] <harisund> gdb what do you mean 'manually acknowledge' ?
[07:26] <Chu> Would anyone happen to know how one might find the local ip of a machine? :/
[07:26] <xxpor> is the compiz site down?
[07:26] <harisund> gdb I just click on that, and when I want to, reboot the machine.
[07:26] <seth> Chu: ifconfig?
[07:26] <pattyD> that returns same error about packages kept back, erUSL
[07:26] <xxpor> Chu, ipconfig
[07:26] <matthew_w> mcphail; I'm thinking of commenting them out until the repos are up again, but... the process is already going.
[07:26] <jordanau> ifconfig
[07:26] <harisund> Chu you could use ifconfig, and look for what follows inet addr:
[07:26] <xxpor> erm
[07:26] <Chu> Arr. Thanks. :p
[07:26] <xxpor> if
[07:26] <matthew_w> mcphail; and I don't know how to stop it.
[07:26] <gdb> harisund: As in acknowledge that a reboot is "required", not reboot, and make the notification stop bugging me for the time being.
[07:26] <xxpor> ya
[07:26] <skold> !tell skold about guidelines
[07:26] <|thunder> inet addr, that'd be a WAN ip
[07:27] <Mau> hi! will ubuntu 64 run faster than 32bits in my amd64????
[07:27] <GoodGolly> !tell GoodGolly about guidelines
[07:27] <harisund> gdb I think there is a small 'x' next to the notification ...
[07:27] <mcphail> matthew_w: best wait then
[07:27] <|thunder> Mau, yep
[07:27] <mcphail> Mau: slightly
[07:27] <harisund> GoodGolly and skold, you can message ubotu by saying '/msg ubotu guidelines' instead of invoking it as !tell me about guidelines
[07:27] <Mau> real gaim?
[07:27] <matthew_w> mcphail it's been on [83% waiting for headers...]  for ..probably 14 minutes or so
[07:27] <GoodGolly> harisund: thanks
[07:27] <matthew_w> There we go.
[07:27] <gdb> harisund: That's not what I care about.  There is the notification via the 2 arrow icon that further pops up a bubble hint every time I log in.  I'd like to cause the machine to stop displaying this message without rebooting the system.
[07:28] <jake1> eeeeeeeekkk.... this is downloading mad slow
[07:28] <Mau> or actually just in rendering on blender, fort exam,ple?
[07:28] <jake1> but at least it's keeping a steady speed
[07:28] <lophyte> anyone know how to make a script autorun, like autorun.inf in Windows?
[07:28] <jujimufu> so, everyone's having problems with downloading from the repos?
[07:28] <jujimufu> So, I am not hte only one, right?
[07:28] <gdb> harisund: The system thinks I need to reboot when I don't, and I'd like to avoid rebooting.
[07:28] <GoodGolly> harisund: i have been using ubuntu for a long time, but i'm still new to the IRC business
[07:28] <seth> I ran this apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` and i still don't have the header files
[07:28] <harisund> gdb aah ... I understand. Yes, annoying. Reminds you of Windows does after a windows update, doesn't it. You could disable update-notified itself if you don't mind.
[07:28] <philly> is a belkin f5d7010 nativly compatable
[07:28] <harisund> GoodGolly what client are you using?
[07:28] <synic> gdb: you can just right click and uncheck the popup option.
[07:28] <matthew_w> mcphail; crap that's a lot of files for compiz X_X
[07:28] <GoodGolly> harisund: Xchat
[07:29] <gdb> Well, that's not really ideal, either.  I want the functionality of the notifier, I just don't want it bugging me about *this* reboot because I know I don't need to do it.
[07:29] <mcphail> gdb: you get this after every kernel upgrade
[07:29] <matthew_w> Alright, I'm going to try starting X after the update
[07:29] <matthew_w> thanks
[07:29] <matthew_w> exit
[07:29] <matthew_w> time
[07:29] <Mau> |thunder, it runs very better, or just for very complex process, like blender?
[07:29] <gdb> mcphail: Right, and I've not upgraded the kernel.  I removed and reinstalled the running kernel.
[07:29] <harisund> GoodGolly ok .... gdb dont' know. I just delete the update-notifier from Gnome startup :)
[07:29] <TBScripter> Can anyone help me I'm having problems with apt-get
[07:29] <gdb> There's no need to reboot the system.  I'd like to tell the notifier, in essense, "yeah, I know, thanks, go away."
[07:29] <foomanchew> fdoving, hey another question ... which powerbook u have the G4 or intel
[07:29] <mcphail> gdb: the path of least resistance would be to reboot and be done with it...
[07:29] <|thunder> Mau, i've heard poeple say tey've got 30% speed increase.
[07:30] <harisund> mcphail I thought he said he didn't want to reboot ... reboot should be the final option on any Unix box.
[07:30] <gdb> mcphail: That's the path of booting the folks using my machine and I'd like to avoid that.  Plus, it's a good idea to know how the software actually works.
[07:30] <mcphail> harisund: i agree
[07:30] <Mau> |thunder uau!! this is too much!
[07:30] <nalioth> TBScripter: ask a question please
[07:30] <gdb> harisund: hehe
[07:30] <erUSUL> pattyD and the comand will not install more packages it will stop on that error? can you manually install libcupsimage2  libcupsys2 ?
[07:30] <TBScripter> umm whats that link to pastebin
[07:30] <nixternal> inet addr != WAN IP ..............        inet addr == PC IP
[07:30] <nalioth> !tell TBScripter about paste
[07:31] <harisund> nixternal is right ... if you want wan ip you could use an external tool like http://whatismyip.com ...
[07:31] <mcphail> gdb: i have had the same issue, and couldn't resolve it without a reboot
[07:31] <ossie> #ubuntu-xgl
[07:31] <virusss> Hi could somebody know Why Now in the new Version I cannot See The IP to the people that I`m talking in Gaim Messenger....Because in the past I could see !
 Mau, i've heard poeple say tey've got 30% speed increase.  <-- from what
[07:31] <munsa> Hello all, I am having a problem everytime I try to install a program from add/remove it tells 'ark' is not available in any software channel
[07:31] <munsa> The application might not support your system architecture.
[07:31] <|thunder> richiefrich, using 64 over 32
[07:31] <Mau> richiefrich, ubuntu
[07:31] <Mau> richiefrich, ubuntu 64
[07:31] <nalioth> !tell munsa about multiverse
[07:31] <foo> [06:30:29]  WARNING, found:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory) - rkhunter found this on my box. Any ideas? I checked ... there is stuff there, but no passwords or anything like that, hm
[07:31] <nalioth> munsa: enable universe and multiverse
[07:32] <gdb> mcphail: damn.. i was hoping there was a file somewhere that update-notifer read when it started up, that was deleted/modified on reboot, that I could delete/modify by hand :-/
[07:32] <richiefrich> Mau |thunder i dont believe that  :P
[07:32] <|thunder> blender runs fine on my 64-bit
[07:32] <SpComb> virusss: you only capitalize the word 'I', the first letter in a sentence, and proper nouns
[07:32] <Mau> richiefrich, do you know something about?
[07:32] <harisund> thanks nixternal... but that is of course only if your WAN is connected ot the internet. If not, I don't know how ?
[07:32] <Mau> richiefrich, idont too
[07:32] <virusss> SpComb  Sorry?
[07:32] <richiefrich> Mau  i run arch on 64 bit
[07:32] <|thunder> richiefrich, thats what ive heard. i will say 64 bit botts faster than 32-bit on my 64 300+
[07:32] <nixternal> connect to your router and look in there as well for WAN IP
[07:32] <mcphail> gdb: i get the feeling it is hard-wired. If you find another solution, let me know
[07:32] <|thunder> *boots
[07:33] <gdb> mcphail: annoying, isn't it? ;-)
[07:33] <harisund> nixternal ah yes .. connecting to the router or gateway might help .. sweet..
[07:33] <virusss> SpComb IP address...yes
[07:33] <richiefrich> |thunder my arch on my 32bit p3 33Mhz boots in 5 sec
[07:33] <mcphail> gdb: yep
[07:33] <|thunder> richiefrich, bs
[07:33] <cool_nick> are there any front end versions of hydra for dapper drake?
[07:33] <richiefrich> |thunder all scsi
[07:33] <TBScripter> whats the link to pastebin, im going to paste my error there..
[07:33] <richiefrich> |thunder 30sec maybe
[07:33] <richiefrich> but really no more
[07:33] <Mau> richiefrich, do ypu think that the speed increase worth the extra work whith the package installation
[07:33] <harisund> !paste > TBScripter
[07:33] <foo> [06:30:29]  WARNING, found:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udev (directory)  /dev/.initramfs (directory) - rkhunter found this on my box. Any ideas? I checked ... there is stuff there, but no passwords or anything like that, hm. Looks like both ubuntu server and debian unstable has this. Probably a problem with rkhunter, right?
[07:33] <nalioth> TBScripter: read your private messages
[07:34] <TBScripter> oh
[07:34] <Shin_Gouki> hi (ho nalioth)
[07:34] <|thunder> richiefrich, it takes 25 seconds to get from grub to gdm greeter for me.
[07:34] <nalioth> hi Shin_Gouki
[07:34] <richiefrich> |thunder i dotn use gdm
[07:34] <munsa> nalioth ok, how do I do this?
[07:34] <JulianCoccia> Hi there, anyone having problems with SMTP AUTH under evolution ? It started a few hours ago with 6.06
[07:34] <richiefrich> |thunder i boot to console
[07:34] <mcphail> foo: rootkithunter baulks on any hidden system directories. ignore it
[07:34] <harisund> |thunder: what do you have starting? I try adn disable practically every startup service :)
[07:34] <cica> bbrazil: you still here?
[07:34] <nalioth> munsa: the URL should provide instructions for you
[07:35] <gdb> mcphail: heh found it
[07:35] <sm5> hello
[07:35] <|thunder> harisund, basic setup. no extra config
[07:35] <mcphail> gdb: yes?
[07:35] <richiefrich> this is why i dont use login managers
[07:35] <gdb> mcphail: you need to remove /var/run/reboot-required
[07:35] <harisund> |thunder oh ok ..
[07:35] <cica> Anyone: is there and equivalent to /var/adm/messages in Ubuntu?
[07:35] <mcphail> gdb: :)
[07:35] <cool_nick>  are there any front end versions of hydra for dapper drake? can anyone help?!?
[07:35] <sm5> how  can l change channel? :-))
[07:35] <richiefrich> |thunder it's my server.. i have no X on that box
[07:35] <JulianCoccia> cica: /var/log/syslog
[07:35] <harisund> sm5 what client are you using?
[07:35] <GoodGolly> richiefrich: how do you prevent booting straight to gdm?
[07:35] <bbrazil> cica: ?
[07:35] <nalioth> sm5: type /j #channel_you_want
[07:35] <bbrazil> cica: /var/log/messages
[07:35] <richiefrich> GoodGolly disable it
[07:35] <jarica> olaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:35] <mcphail> gdb: well done
[07:35] <woodgrain> is it better to upgrade to dapper or just wipe my disk for a fresh install?
[07:35] <GoodGolly> richiefrich: how do you do that?
[07:35] <jarica> ola
[07:36] <TBScripter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21496 << Thats the error I get every time I try to use apt-get no matter what
[07:36] <jarica> +como estas
[07:36] <|thunder> richiefrich, then stop trying to compare your system which has been stripped of all the bells and whhistles to a system which has not even been installed yet.
[07:36] <nalioth> woodgrain: this is linux, you should put "wipe and reinstall" totally out of your mind
[07:36] <richiefrich> GoodGolly  idk in ubuntu
[07:36] <harisund> woodgrain typically it would be better tobackup everything and reinstall
[07:36] <jarica> ola
[07:36] <cica> bbrazil & JulianCoccia: cheers guys
[07:36] <virusss> Could somebody know Why Now in the new Version I cannot See The Ip to the people that I`m talking in Gaim Messenger....Because in the past I could see !c
[07:36] <jarica> como ests 
[07:36] <richiefrich> |thunder ?
[07:36] <JulianCoccia> cica: NP
[07:36] <richiefrich> |thunder stripped?
[07:36] <nalioth> !es
[07:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:36] <richiefrich> |thunder  i think not sir..
[07:36] <efuzzyone> hi, how can i know what xserver-xorg version i am using?
[07:36] <gdb> mcphail: yep, that worked heh
[07:36] <woodgrain> nalioth, it sounds like harisund differs?  Do you mean forget about 'wipe' as a metaphor or as a practice?
[07:37] <harisund> GoodGolly 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' will stop GDM from booting.
[07:37] <harisund> woodgrain perhaps nalioth is right.
[07:37] <GoodGolly> harisund: thanks
[07:37] <azathoth> how stable is edgy eft right now?
[07:37] <|thunder> richiefrich, your not running X. so, your in less than 1% of ubuntu's population
[07:37] <efuzzyone> and how do I install an older version of xserver-xorg?
[07:37] <JulianCoccia> efuzzyone: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[07:37] <gdb> mcphail: it looks like after a kernel is installed, update-notifier runs /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required
[07:37] <richiefrich> |thunder i am saying it u dont boot to X u to can increase on boot time
[07:37] <gdb> this script touches /var/run/reboot-required
[07:37] <nalioth> woodgrain: linux is designed so you never have to reinstall.  'wiping and reinstalling' is a practice brought up by windows
[07:37] <jake1> i need a longer range router
[07:37] <gdb> update-notifier looks for that when it starts up
[07:37] <harisund> woodgrain the last time I asked about dist-upgrading to dapper, quite a few people said dist-upgrade might break a few packages,  so I should back up /home and start afresh. Perhaps now dist-upgrade is smoother
[07:37] <jake1> actually just a better wireless card would do the trick
[07:37] <JulianCoccia> efuzzyone: are you having problems with xorg ? they have reverted the last patch as it messed up many PCI cards
[07:37] <nalioth> azathoth: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <jake1> now that i have a PC card slot
[07:38] <richiefrich> |thunder u use gdm and even if i had X on that box i would never boot to X
[07:38] <azathoth> cheer
[07:38] <azathoth> +s
[07:38] <foo> mcphail: ok, thanks
[07:38] <|thunder> richiefrich, i used to boot to shell on red hat. but thats confusing for my GF
[07:38] <JulianCoccia> efuzzyone: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:38] <jchico> hi, I seem to be having some problems with my EPSON Stylus C84 printer, it doesn't want to print black ink for some reason, and I know there's ink because I bought a new cartrige
[07:38] <mcphail> gdb: that is a useful piece of info. That update notifier is as annoying as it's Windows counterpart
[07:38] <|thunder> richiefrich, its a server. soo.    ya
[07:38] <richiefrich> |thunder i dont see how u login like u would in  any login manager
[07:38] <harisund> yes gdb good job ....
[07:38] <richiefrich> |thunder then u type  --> startx
[07:38] <efuzzyone> JulianCoccia: thanks, how do I change to an older version?
[07:38] <richiefrich> not hard
[07:38] <|thunder> richiefrich, i know this
[07:39] <|thunder> richiefrich, like I said, I keep it simple for my GF
[07:39] <Chousuke> Login managers are just eye-candy.
[07:39] <mcphail> foo: chkrootkit will give similar warnings
[07:39] <richiefrich> |thunder well i dont get how it is confussing thats all it's one comd
[07:39] <richiefrich> cmd*
[07:39] <foo> mcphail: ok.
[07:39] <Chousuke> and they're more intuitive to new users.
[07:39] <harisund> well for some reason the pure command line gives a 'geek' impression to one and all ...
[07:39] <Mau> richiefrich, |thunder: do you think that ubuntu 64 speed increase worth the extra work with the package instalation?
[07:39] <Chousuke> I mean, no new user is going to *guess* that you have to type "startx" to start the GUI
[07:39] <TBScripter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21496 ..Can someone help me get rid of this apt-get error
[07:39] <virusss>  Hi could somebody know Why Now in the new Version I cannot See The IP to the people that I`m talking in Gaim Messenger....Because in the past I could see !
[07:40] <dr_willis> we need login managers with animated 'clippy' helpers to help people login!
[07:40] <JulianCoccia> efuzzyone: beats me. If you have the actual .deb package, you can double click on it an install it manually, or do dpkg -i pak.deb
[07:40] <jpjacobs> hehe
[07:40] <JulianCoccia> efuzzyone: sorry
[07:40] <richiefrich> Mau what extra work do u mean
[07:40] <|thunder> richiefrich, im not disagreeing with you. i prefer to not use the greeter.
[07:40] <holycow> doe the dapper installer have the old normal di interface?  the live cd crashes A LOT during installation procedures
[07:40] <nalioth> Mau: if you are running business apps or science apps only, the 64bit distro is good, if you expect to play videos, flash, or other multimedia, stick with the x86 version
[07:40] <terje> what's the package that provides chkconfig ?
[07:40] <gdb> mcphail: I like it simply because I like clicky updates.  haha nothing to do with Windows either, I just like the idea of it.
[07:40] <Mau> richiefrich, multimedia plugin, other uncompatible package too
[07:40] <richiefrich> |thunder ok then :P
[07:40] <|thunder> Mau, the only thing that sucks is its a pain to get flash working in firefox
[07:40] <harisund> terje why do you need that?
[07:41] <harisund> terje are you attempting to use chkconfig RedHat/Fedora style?
[07:41] <mcphail> gdb: clicky updates are fine, but nagging is not
[07:41] <Mau> nalioth, nice!
[07:41] <terje> yea
[07:41] <terje> i like it
[07:41] <Mau> nalioth, "thunder, richiefrich, thanks! better
[07:41] <|thunder> Mau, flash is thhe only concern. plus you need special builds of compiz and wine
[07:41] <harisund> terje that's not the way services are handled in Debian/Ubuntu. They come with their own service managers. Typically, update-rc.d will handle it for you.
[07:41] <nalioth> TBScripter: join us in #ubuntu-classroom please
[07:41] <foomanchew> why the hell are the ubuntuformums so slooooow
[07:41] <TBScripter> ok
[07:42] <gdb> mcphail: Yes, I'd like a button that was, essentially, "Reboot now?  Reboot later?" and hitting "Later" made the notification go away. heh
[07:42] <|thunder> Mau, but blender will run faster than on x86
[07:42] <harisund> foomanchew: they seem to havng some serious problems lately.. you could perhaps join "#ubuntuforums"
[07:42] <dr_willis> foomanchew,  everyone is downloading 'snakes on a plane' off of bittorrent - so the whole internet is  Slow.
[07:42] <dr_willis> :P
[07:42] <Mau> |thunder, i got it!
[07:42] <woodgrain> harisund, if I dist-upgrade or just apt-get upgrade, what will change?  just the kernel?
[07:42] <mcphail> dr_willis: lol
[07:42] <terje> hrmm.. ok
[07:42] <|thunder> woodgrain, dist-upgrade will do it all
[07:42] <woodgrain> |thunder,
[07:42] <dr_willis> byeeee
[07:43] <woodgrain> it all?? what's that mean?
[07:43] <cica> is there an equivalent to ptree in Ubuntu anyone?
[07:43] <harisund> woodgrain from what I understand, upgrade will never *install* new packages, just upgrade existing ones to newer versions (I think so) ... but dist-upgrade modifies your kernel if there's a newer one in the repos
[07:43] <JulianCoccia> Any channel specialized in evolution ?
[07:43] <|thunder> i always use dist-upgrade. works like a charm. untill dev release broken x packages
[07:43] <gdb> cica: what's ptree? i've never heard of it
[07:43] <gdb> cica: do you mean pstree?
[07:44] <biocoded> I want listen mp3 and watch DVD on ubuntu, but I dont have ADSL. I need download the softwares to my pen drive at work. How can I do this ?
[07:44] <kmasta> anyone know how to make the rediculously large icons in the GAIM buddlyist smaller so I can see more of them at a quick glance
[07:44] <harisund> kmasta I think you can set it in the preferences
[07:44] <JulianCoccia> cica: sudo apt-get install psmisc
[07:44] <kmasta> i looked around and couldn't find that
[07:44] <GoodGolly> kmasta: i know you can turn them off, but i don't think you can make them smaller
[07:44] <JulianCoccia> that installs pstree
[07:44] <harisund> kmasta I think GoodGolly is right ...
[07:44] <gdb> harisund: did you catch the solution to the update-notifier issue, btw?
[07:44] <YoussefAssad> JulianCoccia: irc.gnome.org, #evolution
[07:44] <gdb> harisund: it's to delete /var/run/reboot-required
[07:44] <JulianCoccia> YoussefAssad: cheers!
[07:45] <harisund> gdb yes I did .. .I have been reading the converstaion between you and mcphail
[07:45] <harisund> thanks
[07:45] <kmasta> AHAH, i found it, i just turned off buddy icons
[07:45] <YoussefAssad> JulianCoccia: ditto
[07:45] <kmasta> thanks guys
[07:45] <cica> gdb: ptree is Solaris equivalent
[07:45] <gdb> harisund: ah, ok, just wanted to make sure you were able to catch that since you were participating in the conversation :-)
[07:45] <cica> JulianCoccia: thanks
[07:46] <harisund> thanks gdb.. I can inform that to a couple of my friends ... I personally just completely remove update-manager from Gnome session startup itself .. and run a cron job at nights to update anyway...
[07:46] <gdb> cica: ah, despite running many solaris machines, i don't actually use solaris that much ;-)
[07:46] <biocoded> I want listen mp3 and watch DVD on ubuntu, but I dont have ADSL. I need download the softwares to my pen drive. How can I do this ?
[07:47] <virusss> Hi could somebody know Why Now in the new Version I cannot See The Ipto the people that I`m talking in Gaim Messenger....Because in the past I could see !
[07:47] <fdoving> foomanchew: i have a iBook G4.
[07:47] <cica> gdb: I see :-)
[07:47] <harisund> Hello! I want to umount my hard disk, but it says the resource is busy. ps ax doesnt really list anything suspicious. How do I find out what is using my /dev/sda1 (mounted on /media/usbdisk) ??
[07:47] <cica> gdb: truss is also another useful process comand in Solaris
[07:47] <|thunder> virusss, are you direct connected ? because if not, all message traffic is routed through AOLs servers
[07:47] <cica> but looks as if Ubuntu does have it
[07:48] <ToHellWithGA> i want to do a net installation but the output of lspci suggests a different vendor/brand combination than my card says on the label.  will building an etherboot floppy for a seemingly wrong chip cause much trouble?
[07:48] <harisund> 902 people in the room! During the time Dapper was being discussed in #ubuntu+1 the room used to have around 700 at max... nice ....
[07:48] <woodgrain> |thunder,  how do I know if I have breezy or hoary or ___ ?
[07:48] <biocoded>  harisund> you can try "fuser" command
[07:49] <harisund> woodgrain I think lsb_release -a will let you know ..
[07:49] <virusss> yes thunder Im direct connecte4d
[07:49] <fix> I just put a 2.0 pci slot in my computer and its not recongnized my wireless USB anymore
[07:49] <fix> What do I have to do?
[07:49] <gdb> cica: yeah, I know about truss lol i used strace on linux too much to not find the solaris equiv ;-)
[07:49] <manmadha> how to do graphic programms in c( how to exicute....?)
[07:49] <harisund> biocoded, apparently updatedb was indexing my hard disk :) that's why I couldn't unmount it ...
[07:50] <|thunder> woodgrain, not sure.
[07:50] <harisund> woodgrain did you get my message about lsb_release -a?
[07:50] <fix> Could anyone help me with a USB 2.0 PCI problem?
[07:50] <cica> gdb: I use strace too. rofl
[07:50] <woodgrain> harisund, yeah, and it doesn't appear to eb a cmd.
[07:50] <biocoded> harisund > hummmm
[07:50] <woodgrain> harisund, it won't do anything in bash
[07:51] <harisund> woodgrain what? Sure about that? lsb underscore release? with the -a switch?
[07:51] <holycow> does dapper installer cd have the old installer interface available?  the partitioner app crashes every single time on the live cd
[07:51] <enrique> wenas
[07:51] <fix> Could anyone help me with a USB 2.0 PCI problem?
[07:51] <harisund> woodgrain oh ok .. perhaps that command was made available after Dapper to be lsb compliant ...
[07:51] <holy_cow> another holycow =)
[07:51] <woodgrain> harisund, I just don't know how to type.  thanks.
[07:51] <JulianCoccia> hola enrique, haz /join #ubuntu-es para espaol
[07:51] <holycow> i'm the original :)
[07:51] <biocoded> I want listen mp3 and watch DVD on ubuntu, but I dont have ADSL. I need download the softwares to my pen drive. How can I do this ?
[07:51] <holy_cow> holycow: I had that problem. Was a bad CD drive though...
[07:51] <woodgrain> harisund, turns out I'm on 5.10 breezy
[07:52] <holy_cow> holycow..maybe
[07:52] <harisund> woodgrain ok ...
[07:52] <bbrazil> biocoded: try apt-zip
[07:52] <woodgrain> harisund, thanks
[07:52] <fix> Could anyone help me with a USB 2.0 PCI problem?
[07:52] <munsa> Hello All, I have a question, I am trying to use GnomeBreaker and it tells me that it does not have premission to use my CDRom any idea how to change this?
[07:52] <biocoded> what softwares I must download to listen mp3 and watch DVD on Ubuntu ?
[07:52] <jujimufu> !win32codecs
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <biocoded> bbrazil > Eu no tenho banda larga
[07:52] <jujimufu> !win32codec
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <harisund> biocoded can you get access to another Linux machine (or Windows with Cygwin+wget installed) that has internet installed?
[07:52] <munsa> bicoded : sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:52] <JulianCoccia> munsa: Has your user cdrecording privileges ? Go to user administration and check that
[07:52] <harisund> munsa biocoded has no internet
[07:52] <jujimufu> munsa: what about codecs?
[07:52] <bbrazil> !br
[07:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:52] <|thunder> !dvr-ms
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvr-ms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <biocoded> munsa > I dont have adsl
[07:53] <GoodGolly> holycow: I had a problem with the installer and ran the "Check cd media for defects" option
[07:53] <JulianCoccia> munsa: worst case, a quick and dirty solution would be:  sudo chmod 777 /dev/cdrom
[07:53] <fix> !ask SIOCGIFFLAGS error
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask SIOCGIFFLAGS error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <GoodGolly> holycow: Turned out it was a bad cd
[07:53] <munsa> biocoded, your screwed man
[07:53] <kmasta> are the forums having some issues as of late?
[07:53] <munsa> lol
[07:53] <munsa> i gotta take my lappy to the net cafe to get updates
[07:53] <harisund> biocoded: apt-zip is a program that creates a script that allows you to download the required packages on another machine and then you can bring those packages back to your home machine.
[07:53] <GoodGolly> holycow: but you can also try the "start in safe graphical mode" option, if the cd is ok... maybe that will help
[07:53] <harisund> biocoded but I am wondering how you will install apt-zip in the first place ...
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys i downloaded compiz of the repos and a few other bits that i though would be needed, now how do i get it to wokr
[07:54] <harisund> wow! somebody's using an irc client for emacs.. wonder if there is one for vim ..
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> my card is installed correctly also
[07:54] <munsa> biocoded i spent a WHOLE lot of time with this media issue, it looks like the only way is to install mplayer and the mplayer codecs
[07:54] <munsa> biocoded after that you can just about watch anything
[07:55] <fix> Could anyone help me with a USB 2.0 PCI problem?
[07:55] <biocoded> harisund > I will use windows to download
[07:55] <erUSUL> !anyone
[07:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:55] <jujimufu> biocoded: wait. Have you installed ubuntu?
[07:55] <jujimufu> Does anybody?
[07:55] <harisund> biocoded you will need one particualr software called wget. I am not sure how to get that on Windows without Cygiwn
[07:55] <fix> Could anyone help me with a USB 2.0 PCI problem?
[07:56] <munsa> When you get Mplayer from the repos it comes with the codecs right?
[07:56] <biocoded> munsa > I think is the best way is download mplayer
[07:56] <munsa> i dont remember
[07:56] <linuxd00d> i need a hyperterminal like program, minicom doesnt work
[07:56] <GoodGolly> munsa: no
[07:56] <Shin_Gouki> hi i got probs with my ubuntu to get it workin as live cd, got this file on cd: ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:56] <harisund> linuxd00d: I think there is a program called tip
[07:56] <munsa> oh, then you get the codecs from the Mplayer website
[07:56] <biocoded> at job I use windows machines, but at home linux
[07:56] <erUSUL> linuxd00d: what are you trying to do?
[07:56] <munsa> then unpack them
[07:56] <GoodGolly> Shin_Gouki: you should burn the iso to a cd... it is a cd image
[07:56] <|thunder> i install my codecs on 64-bit with automatix.
[07:56] <harisund> Shin_Gouki: Is that what you see in the contents of the CD?
[07:56] <woodgrain> harisund, just out of curiosity, what's lsb?
i burned it to CD, i tested it on 2 PCs but on both it doesn't start
 after "unpacking kernel" theres just nothing... md5 seems ok
[07:57] <linuxd00d> erUSUL: i am working on a sever, at the moment a switch but i need to connect to it via ttys0
[07:57] <chapel> need to extract the iso to disk shin
[07:57] <harisund> Linux Standards Base, I think. A bunch of guys who go around saying "all Linux distros should do this one way, that another way and so on" .... basically seting standards
[07:57] <harisund> !lsb
[07:57] <ubotu> lsb: Linux Standard Base 3.1 support package. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:57] <drbreen> woodgrain: linux standard base, a set of standard thingys each linux distribution should offer
[07:57] <linuxd00d> erUSUL: minicom just locks up
[07:58] <omatkafa> hey all
[07:58] <Rake> sers
[07:58] <erUSUL> linuxd00d: and screen? (somebody recomended that)
[07:58] <unf> ola
[07:59] <harisund> woodgrain: heard about the FreeDesktop.org project trying to bring compatibility between Gnome/KDE and so on? Like that lsb intends to bring compatibility, so that a regular sysadmin of Debian based systems will not scream at not being able to find a /etc/networking/interfaces file .. (because what he is searching for is /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth0 and so on ...)
[07:59] <omatkafa> does anyone know how to fix the virtual terminals
[07:59] <linuxd00d> erUSUL: no i havent tried that, will do now
[07:59] <harisund> omatkafa: what went wrong with them?
[07:59] <omatkafa> when i try ctrl alt f(x) x is 1-6 i get a black screen
[08:00] <|thunder> omatkafa, try F8, do you get boot messages ?
[08:00] <omatkafa> i think it happened after i downloaded the nvidia-glx drivers
[08:00] <Sid> Does anyone know if there exists an Mplayer plugin for Amarok?
[08:00] <omatkafa> no i dont i get a black screen only
[08:00] <gnagno> hello all
[08:00] <otroean> I'm trying to connect to my other computers with firefox and Opera but the activex that is needed to connect doesn't pop up to be installed...
[08:00] <|thunder> omatkafa, I have no idea what could cause that. you say it worked prior ro nvidia-glx ?
[08:01] <|thunder> *y
[08:01] <|thunder> arg
[08:01] <omatkafa> i have read stuff in the forums they say to add a line to grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <|thunder> *prior to
[08:01] <omatkafa> yes it did
[08:01] <|thunder> grub is just a boot manager.
[08:01] <omatkafa> i changed my resolution to 1280x800 maybe that affected it
[08:01] <woodgrain> harisund, this sounds like a great thing.  I did apt-get update then and apt-get upgrade ... it ran ... but I'm still running breezy, apparently.
[08:01] <woodgrain> harisund, any thoughts?
[08:01] <harisund> woodgrain what you have is perhaps the most 'upgraded' breezy system.
[08:02] <|thunder> omatkafa, hrm, thats weird. the console dosnt use any hires video drivers. no mesa, no nvidia.
[08:02] <harisund> Do you understand how apt works woodgrain?
[08:02] <tjb891> is frostwire ok to use on ubuntu?
[08:02] <woodgrain> harisund, apt is totally opaque to me.
[08:02] <|thunder> tjb891, yep yep
[08:02] <omatkafa> i think they added to the grub so that line get executed every time ubuntu starts just like boot script
[08:02] <tjb891> thx
[08:03] <jujimufu> everyone whose downloads from the ubuntu repos are running slow, please raise your hand.
[08:03] <omatkafa> they say sometihng like this
[08:03] <omatkafa> Therefore, in order to make it work properly I just add the following parameters in my grub configuration (/boot/grub/menu.lst) :
[08:03] <omatkafa> Code:
[08:03] <omatkafa> video=vesafb vga=0x318
[08:03] <omatkafa> This makes my console work in 1024x768 24bit VESA mode.
[08:03] <harisund> woodgrain ok basically Ubuntu (like many other Linuxes) maintains its software in huge repositories online. These repos are kept up to date. So every time you run apt-get, apt looks up these repos. It also maintains a database of packages installed in your system curently (dpkg --list gives you that database).
[08:04] <harisund> woodgrain: so every time you run apt-get upgrade, it looks up the repos and upgrades the packages on your machine to match that in the repo. However, it is looking up the repositories of breezy as of now. You will have to inform apt to search now in teh dapper repositores. GEt me?
[08:04] <woodgrain> harisund,  yeah,  I get that part pretty good.  But should an apt-get upgrade include the distro?
[08:04] <omatkafa> |thunder, thanks anyway i hope i wont need the ttys one day :)
[08:04] <harisund> woodgrain apt-get upgrade won't do that. First you have to tell apt to start looking at Dapper repositories.
[08:04] <harisund> !repos
[08:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:04] <scifi> anyone good with sql commands ?
[08:05] <harisund> scifi just ask your question. Somebody might be.
[08:05] <|thunder> omatkafa, i hope you can get it solved. because its handy when x is hogging resources
[08:05] <gnagno> scifi what do you need?
[08:05] <|thunder> im out
[08:05] <jujimufu> isn't supposed "apt-get dist-upgrade" bring me KDE 3.5.3 instead of my kde 3.5.2 I have now?
[08:05] <scifi> i want to run a query that leaves out certain data from the results
[08:05] <Shin_Gouki> hello! how can i chek that my ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso was correct burn to CD?(md5 on hd is ok)
[08:05] <harisund> Shin_Gouki: you can boot from the CD, and ask it to do a media check
[08:05] <woodgrain> harisund,  hmmm ... what should I read to learn how to get apt to look at dapper repos?
[08:06] <|thunder-afk> scifi, 'man grep'
[08:06] <Linuturk_code> Shin_Gouki, boot to the disk, and it can do a media check there
[08:06] <jujimufu> woodgrain: do you have edgy?
[08:06] <woodgrain> jujimufu, what's edgy?
[08:06] <harisund> jujimufu: woodgrain has breezy
[08:06] <jujimufu> oh
[08:06] <harisund> woodgrain edgy is what is after breezy.
 i did that! but there did seems to be a result... it just hangs :/
[08:06] <harisund> sorry, dapper.
[08:06] <woodgrain> jujimufu,  I didnt' thing edy was out yet
[08:06] <harisund> woodgrain it is not.
[08:06] <jujimufu> woodgrain: it's not :) it's still in developmental stage
[08:06] <|thunder-afk> !release
[08:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
 it doesn't display something liek:"CD not ok" just hangs...
[08:06] <Stegozor> Hi everyone, I'd like to perform a hard disk check, as with scandisk in Dos. How can I do that with Ubuntu ? Is there a GUI tool, or should I use fsck ? If so, could you please tell the standard arguments, as I'm lost with its man page? TIA
[08:06] <gnagno> does someone use ssh wwith a public key under linux?
[08:07] <harisund> woodgrain I am just thinking about what method would be the easiest for you to follow..
[08:07] <harisund> I do gnagno
[08:07] <scifi> |thunder-afk: im not actually in ubuntu at the moment
[08:07] <gnagno> harisund: do you use agent?
[08:07] <harisund> |thunder-afk: I doubt grep will help him anyway
[08:07] <Linuturk_code> Shin_Gouki, wierd, well, I don't know, ask someone else
[08:07] <jahraztah> how do i change the permisson on an entire partition
[08:07] <jujimufu> harisund: wouldn't just adding the dapper repos in his sources.list do the job?
[08:07] <harisund> gnagno nope ... but I think ssh-agent gets started by default.
[08:07] <Sid> Say - is it safe to update now, or will the update still (potentially) break X?
[08:07] <jujimufu> Stegozor: ok, what's your paritition's filesystem you want to check?
[08:07] <harisund> jujimufu: it should .. could you briefly explain or ask ubotu to explain to woodgrain how to add dapper repos?
[08:08] <gnagno> harisund: I can't manage how to load my key in the client pc... the same key is working under windows
[08:08] <jujimufu> !repos
[08:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
 do u know then what mesasge should pop up if the CD is NOT ok?
[08:08] <scifi> basically i have a huge list of movies, i want to remove all "TV" related movies from the list
[08:08] <jujimufu> !easysource
[08:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:08] <harisund> woodgrain did you have a look at the output of !easysource and !repos here?
[08:08] <Linuturk_code> nope
[08:08] <jake1> i am so going to try and install OS X onto my AMD 64-bit OS
[08:08] <jake1> errr
[08:08] <jake1> AMD 64-bit laptop
[08:08] <Stegozor> jujimufu : Kdisk Free tells ext3
[08:08] <jake1> *
[08:08] <harisund> scroll up woodgrain, jujimufu has typed !repos and !easysource. Read the chat statements immediately following that.
[08:09] <scifi> ne ideas ?
[08:09] <jujimufu> woodgrain: check this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:09] <linuxd00d> erUSUL: tried it, it wont compile
[08:09] <harisund> gnagno: let me get a grip on what you are saying ... your client machine has both the keys in ~/.ssh/ right?
[08:09] <jujimufu> woodgrain: it has more than you'd ever need to know about repos and apt-get :)
[08:10] <jahraztah> how do i change the permissions on an entire partition, like change the owner of the partition?
[08:10] <woodgrain> harisund, yeah, still reading about these things.  don't understand easysource
[08:10] <gnagno> harisund: no, the client machine has just the public key, the private key is in the server machine
[08:10] <harisund> easysource is basically a tool that adds many repositories for you ... so that you can just copy and paste into your repositories..
[08:10] <jujimufu> Stegozor: ok, so, do fsck.ext2 -j /mnt/hd* or whatever.. fsck.ext3 won't work.
[08:10] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth u got idea for my not workin ubuntu live cd?
[08:10] <jujimufu> !fsck
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <harisund> gnagno hang on ... the client machine should have its own private and public key. The public key should be in the server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file ...
[08:11] <jujimufu> meh
[08:11] <woodgrain> harisund,  "your repositories" ... I thought repositories were generic ... for all to use.  Mine wouldn't be any different than yours, right?
[08:11] <harisund> woodgrain not necessarily , but it could be. I might have added Seveas' repository to provide myself with NX and fglrx packages, but you migth not need those and so you wouldn't have that particular repository in your list.
[08:12] <linuxd00d> erUSUL: tried it, it wont compile
[08:12] <jujimufu> Stegozor: sorry wrong command
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> woodgrain: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:12] <harisund> but yes woodgrain, most of the generic official ubuntu archives both of us will have in our repo listing.
[08:12] <Stegozor> :)
[08:12] <jujimufu> Stegozor: you must do fsck.ext2 -j /dev/hd* instead. You must check the device block, not the mounted disk.
[08:12] <Seveas> woodgrain, you need to be careful when adding anything other than listed on paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:12] <jujimufu> Stegozor: also, make sure you've umounted the device first.
[08:12] <gnagno> harisund: I received only one file, and the same file is working under windows as public key
[08:12] <woodgrain> harisund, yeah, okeay, but I don't really own the repos.  I just have a list of them \where apt can find it.
[08:13] <compotatoj> Is there a way you can eject the dapper livecd after the OS is running to burn a cd?
[08:13] <woodgrain> Seveas, thanks, I'm pretty cautious about tinkering with my favorite computer!
[08:13] <Stegozor> jujimufu : how can I unmount a hard disk and still continue to work with it ? (I have / 15 Gb, /home 2 Gb and swap 1 Gb) Can I unmount /home and use this command?
[08:13] <harisund> woodgrain lol ... yes that's what the repository listing is for. The file /etc/apt/sources.list is the listing
[08:14] <harisund> Stegozor: the last time I had to run a fsck I used a live CD, and unmounted all the partitions. With a rnning system I doubt if you can do that.
[08:14] <woodgrain> harisund, /etc/apt/sources.list is my personal list of repositories?
[08:14] <linuxd00d> Seveas, do you know of any hyperterminal like programs for ubuntu, i need to be able connect via ttys0 i have already tried minicom and screen, do you know of any others?
[08:14] <harisund> woodgrain yes it is. That is what you will be editing to give your apt a wider range of repos to search in .
[08:14] <Stegozor> Erg, I gave the Ubuntu CD I've burnt to a friend...
[08:15] <woodgrain> harisund, does synaptic modify this list?  if so can't I just use that?
[08:15] <jujimufu> Stegozor: no, you can't. You can, however, disk-check your disk with the ubuntu live CD
[08:15] <munsa> Hello all, Anyone know where I can get GnomeBreaker? I dont see it in the Repos???
[08:15] <jujimufu> Stegozor: that means, the installation CD which is also a live cd
[08:15] <linuxd00d> is gastman like hyperterminal
[08:15] <linuxd00d> ?
[08:15] <harisund> woodgrain err.. Synaptic can also do it. Yes. Hang on ..
[08:16] <Stegozor> OK, I don't have it anymore. Is there another way similar to Scandisk, which was pretty easy to use?
[08:16] <harisund> seveas, do you know what was the switch that needed to be given while invoking update-manager on a breezy system to get a dapper system?
[08:16] <fdoving> !upgrade > harisund
[08:16] <Seveas> harisund, -c
[08:16] <munsa> Does anyone know where I can get the Korraa XGL live CD?
[08:16] <Jack_Sparrow> switch breezy to dapper
[08:16] <linuxd00d> Seveas, do you know of any hyperterminal like programs for ubuntu, i need to be able connect via ttys0 i have already tried minicom and screen, do you know of any others?
[08:17] <eikenberry> What does ubuntu use to keep the /tmp dir clean? tmpreaper is in universe, so its not the standard. What is?
[08:17] <harisund> ok woodgrain, fdoving has a nicer link. Execute this on your irc client ' /msg ubotu upgrade'
[08:17] <Seveas> linuxd00d, sorry, no
[08:17] <fdoving> linuxd00d: 'cu'
[08:17] <Seveas> eikenberry, /tmp is cleaned during boot
[08:17] <linuxd00d> darn
[08:17] <jpjacobs> eikenberry, dunno, rm -rf /tmp/
[08:17] <linuxd00d> fdoving
[08:17] <Seveas> jpjacobs, that is very, very stupid
[08:17] <covOPprometheus> sup, anyone knows how to edit audio-file-tags ? ( the ones seen under properties, not ID3)
[08:17] <eikenberry> Seveas. An init.d script?
[08:17] <Seveas> eikenberry, somewhere in one of them
[08:17] <harisund> jpjacobs: lol that. rm -rf /tmp/ might not even be safe.
[08:17] <compotatoj> jpjacobs: yes it is, I was about to say the same thing that Seveas said
[08:17] <linuxd00d> fdoving is this for konsole
[08:18] <fdoving> linuxd00d: yes, very simple, and my fav. :)
[08:18] <Seveas> rm -rf /tmp/* is a bit safer
[08:18] <eikenberry> Seveas. Looks like bootclean.sh. :)
[08:18] <linuxd00d> fdoving: ok cheers, is it pre installed?
[08:18] <Seveas> eikenberry, sounds logical -- never toook a look at it myself ;)
[08:18] <fdoving> linuxd00d: "man cu" for more info. If you have to install it the packagename is 'cu' too.
[08:19] <linuxd00d> fdoving, thanks alot
[08:19] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone got a good how to for getiing xgl/compiz working
[08:20] <jpjacobs> sorry for the misinof... just thought that if it happend at boot (no running procs, it wouldn't harm)
[08:20] <Seveas> !xgl > Paddy_EIRE
[08:20] <compotatoj> !automatix > Paddy_EIRE
[08:20] <harisund> compotatoj: now automatix includes compiz too eh?
[08:20] <compotatoj> harisund: the bleeder does
[08:20] <jpjacobs> !automatix > jpjacobs
[08:20] <harisund> I see...
[08:20] <woodgrain> harisund,  what's gksudo?
[08:20] <compotatoj> harisund: only for i386 though
[08:21] <harisund> woodgrain do you know what is sudo?
[08:21] <compotatoj> woodgrain: it is a graphical window to run a program as root
[08:21] <withayanda> anyone know how to add a zeroconf advertised printer?
[08:21] <munsa> Hello all, does anyone know where I can get GnomeBreaker? I want to install GnomeBreaker and other apps but I dont know whehat repo I  have to add to get te them
[08:21] <harisund> woodgrain gksudo is to execute graphical applications that uses the GTK libraries with root permissions
[08:21] <otroean> Have searched around for a while but can't find a good dvd movie backup program. Like DVDshrink for Windows
[08:21] <userone> how do I 'restart GDM'?
[08:21] <compotatoj> munsa: are you sure you don't mean GnomeBaker?
[08:21] <harisund> userone 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[08:21] <compotatoj> userone: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:21] <fdoving> eikenberry: it's actually /etc/init.d/bootclean which is called by /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh. I've disabled this by replacing /etc/init.d/bootclean with a script that just exits successfully.
[08:22] <covOPprometheus> sup, anyone knows how to edit audio-file-tags ? ( the ones seen under properties, not ID3)
[08:22] <harisund> munsa GnomeBreaker lol ...
[08:22] <sorush20> where do I get the xorg sources?
[08:22] <munsa> compotatoj : yea, gnomebreaker
[08:22] <woodgrain> harisund,  I don't know why I'd ever need to do that.  Can you give me an example?
 ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:22] <munsa> Gnomebaker!
[08:22] <munsa> haha
[08:22] <munsa> I tought it was breaker
[08:22] <munsa> baaa
[08:22] <munsa> yea, thats what I want to get
[08:22] <compotatoj> Paddy_EIRE: I think that only restarts X11
[08:22] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[08:22] <elric> wenas
[08:22] <elric> algun espaol?
[08:22] <munsa> My first Ubuntu install I remember I had alot more apps to chose from
[08:22] <harisund> woodgrain let's say you way to run update-manager. Obviously you can't upgrade your packages as a regular user. You will have to run it as a root user. Or synaptic for another example. sudo synaptic might not always be safe, but  gksudo synaptic is the right way to go .
[08:22] <munsa> I think I am missing a repository from the list or something
[08:23] <covOPprometheus> elric, #ubuntu-es ahi encontrars de los tuyos
[08:23] <npster> How to install a HP DeskJet 610C in Xubuntu ?
[08:23] <covOPprometheus> elric, ;)
[08:23] <harisund> wow covOPprometheus, multilingual eh? nice...
[08:23] <covOPprometheus> sup, anyone knows how to edit audio-file-tags ? ( the ones seen under properties, not ID3)
[08:23] <covOPprometheus> harisund, yes, but I still don't speak ubuntu ^^
[08:24] <compotatoj> covOPprometheus: what do you mean exactly, can you give me an example?
[08:24] <harisund> lol.. sorry covOPprometheus I really don't know much about audio ...
[08:24] <woodgrain> harisund, okay so it's the way to get synaptic running from a shell?  wouldn't sudo synaptic do the trick?
[08:24] <munsa> harisund: do you know what repos I can add to get all the good apps? gnomebaker ect??
[08:24] <Linuturk_code> npster, it's really simple to install HP printers. go to the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org and search for xubuntu printing. You have to add the printer via the CUPS admin page, but before you do, there are some commands you have to run in the terminal
[08:24] <visik7> I've changed the monitor from an lcd 4:3 to a 16:10 but now the only resolution that works is 1024x768 and even setting by hand 1280x768 in xorg.conf it doesn't work
[08:24] <elric> covOP estas?
[08:24] <covOPprometheus> sip
[08:24] <harisund> woodgrain yes, its basically sudo synaptic, but safer. Some apps might break if you use sudo in front.
[08:24] <elric> sabes como registrar el nick?
[08:24] <harisund> munsa hang on ...
[08:24] <compotatoj> woodgrain: yes it would if you were using the terminal, but if you launch it from the dock, a GUI is better than a terminal window popping up
[08:25] <bbrazil> !nickserv
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <munsa> harisund - thanks man
[08:25] <woodgrain> compotatoj, what's the dock?
[08:25] <munsa> appriciate it
[08:25] <userone> I had the xerver problem. I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restarted GDM, but still no GUI display. Have I done something wrong? Maybe in the setup?
[08:25] <harisund> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gnomebaker&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all <-- munsa. It's in the universe repo.
[08:25] <gnomefreak> userone: DO YOUR UPDATES
[08:25] <compotatoj> woodgrain: the dock is the bar at the top/bottom of your screen
[08:25] <gnomefreak> OOPS
[08:26] <harisund> munsa gnomebreaker I couldn't find. :D
[08:26] <woodgrain> compotatoj,  oohh.
[08:26] <munsa> haha
[08:26] <javi555> hi all, here is a new ubuntu user. I have installed the server version on an old machine and is working great. But after a few days I run out of space on the hard drive so I went and plug another hard drive, with windows installed on it. The BIOS recognized it fine. But now here come the question. How can I see it in my ubuntu now? I want to format it all and if possible add it to my free space. Is it possible?
[08:26] <munsa> harisund
[08:26] <gnomefreak> userone: the fix for xserver-xorg-core was uploaded yesterday
[08:26] <compotatoj> userone: it might be the xorg bug... read the topic
[08:26] <harisund> munsa do you have the universe repo enabled/
[08:26] <covOPprometheus> !NickServ
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NickServ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <munsa> javi555 did you mount it
[08:26] <woodgrain> I just adjusted the time/date ... now I can't sudo because "timestamp too far in the future".  Can't repair it wither.
[08:26] <userone> gnomefreak: thanks...
[08:26] <munsa> i belive so harisund
[08:26] <gnomefreak> userone: yw
[08:26] <elric> covOP....
[08:26] <munsa> harisund i think so
[08:26] <gnomefreak> covOPprometheus: what are you looking for?
[08:26] <harisund> munsa perhaps you can apt-get update once and try again?
[08:26] <javi555> munsa: I think not
[08:26] <userone> compotatoj: thanks
[08:27] <munsa> ok
[08:27] <bbrazil> woodgrain: either wait it out or reboot
[08:27] <munsa> thanks
[08:27] <munsa> haha
[08:27] <harisund> woodgrain oops ... now that is a problem I don't know what we can do about ... let's see..
[08:27] <covOPprometheus> elric, checa en el servidor, o sea en FreeNode
[08:27] <gnomefreak> !freenode > covOPprometheus
[08:27] <compotatoj> woodgrain: that is a weird bug, maybe someone should report it
[08:27] <gnomefreak> covOPprometheus: read your pm
[08:27] <munsa> javi555 use the disk program
[08:27] <woodgrain> bbrazil, why would it fix itself?
[08:27] <munsa> its really good
[08:27] <munsa> its... 1 sec
[08:27] <harisund> woodgrain one extreme solution I am able to think about it to restart and startup in safe mode. Then modify your date, and then restart normally.
[08:27] <javi555> munsa: yes, sorry I am really new to linux, it is not automatically mounted? dont I have to format it first?
[08:27] <gnomefreak> covOPprometheus: also please join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[08:27] <bbrazil> woodgrain: when the timestamp is no longer in the future
[08:27] <javi555> munsa: does this work through command line?
[08:28] <bbrazil> woodgrain: how much did you change the time by?
[08:28] <harisund> munsa any luck with the apt-get update thingie? gnomebaker?
[08:28] <woodgrain> bbrazil, the time on my box is approximately correct.  Is this time separate from the 'timestamp'?
[08:28] <userone> the command line for updates is sudo apt-get update?
[08:28] <covOPprometheus> gnomefreak, hmm a tag editor, for basic tags, not ID3, and I told elric to join it there
[08:28] <woodgrain> bbrazil,  I changed time zones.  I just moved to the west coast.
[08:28] <munsa> javi555 in the gui, go to system >> administration >> disks
[08:28] <munsa> it will find yer disk and let you open it up
[08:28] <munsa> boooom!
[08:29] <munsa> harisund
[08:29] <harisund> yes munsa?
[08:29] <munsa> i gotta wait 3 hours
[08:29] <javi555> munsa: i have installed the server version, and in fact I am accessing it via SSH
[08:29] <munsa> hehe
[08:29] <woodgrain> harisund, I thought safe-mode was a microsoft thing.
[08:29] <bbrazil> woodgrain: hmm, thats a bit unexpected. try TZ=EST sudo ...
[08:29] <withayanda> can gnome-cups-manager detect zerconf advertised printers?
[08:29] <harisund> woodgrain, safe-mode is wrong terminology, you are right. I meant single user mode
[08:29] <munsa> harisund - im downloading some stuff,  is there any way to start more than one instance of synaptic?
[08:29] <compotatoj> Does anyone know why if I select PST as my time zone in windows and select the right time and then I do the same thing for linux, whenever I go back into the other OS the hour is wrong but the minutes are correct (ex. offset by 5 hours)?
[08:29] <woodgrain> harisund, how do I enter single user mode?
[08:29] <harisund> munsa no.
[08:29] <munsa> javi555 then you probibly know much more than I do haha
[08:30] <mjaudiophile> hello all, to whomever is in here, I just want to say a BIG BIG BIG THANK YOU to all the Ubuntu community, I was almost tearing my hair out at the latest xorg update breaking my setup untill I logged onto IRC and got the fix in less than 1 minute...Thanks so much for saving my life
[08:30] <munsa> Anyone know if it is possible to do a tripple boot with windoze Xp, Ubuntu, and FreeBSD?
[08:30] <woodgrain> mjaudiophile, do you have a vanity plate in chicago?
[08:30] <harisund> woodgrain: when you reboot, you will see 2 options atleast, such as "Ubuntu 5.10" and "Ubuntu 5.10 Rescue" or something. Choose the second mode. You will be logged in as root then. You can modify your date and time there, I think.
[08:30] <munsa> curious if anyone did it
[08:30] <compotatoj> munsa: yes it is
[08:30] <munsa> before
[08:30] <gnomefreak> mjaudiophile: if your using 10.1. 10.4 is the latest and fixed the issue
[08:30] <munsa> haha
[08:30] <harisund> munsa I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work.
[08:31] <Scorpmoon> yesterdays Ubuntu update broke my X server !
[08:31] <woodgrain> harisund, it'll need a pwd right?
[08:31] <Scorpmoon> what can I do about it?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> covOPprometheus: please dont pm me without asking and no i dont have any ideas atm
[08:31] <mjaudiophile> woodgrain, LOL no I don't,  why do you ask...
[08:31] <Scorpmoon> Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ... No Devices detected
[08:31] <javi555> munsa: ups, thanks then... but I do not really know much... I thought I would have to format it first and then mount it, but I dont know... and where do the free space go? To the mounted folder?
[08:31] <munsa> compotatoj you ever used FreeBSD? It seems like it wants me to remove the other two to install them
[08:31] <void^> Scorpmoon: see /topic
[08:31] <woodgrain> mjaudiophile, someone in chicago has a plate "MJ AUDIO".  that's why
[08:31] <harisund> munsa I triple boot Windows XP, Ubuntu i386 and Ubuntu AMD64. As long as grub is installed in the mbr, grub can start FreeBSD, Ubuntu and Windows just fine.
[08:31] <covOPprometheus> gnomefreak: well ok then
[08:31] <munsa> javi555 sudo mount sda---whatever
[08:31] <void^> freebsd's boot loader can also start grub
[08:32] <munsa> harisund
[08:32] <munsa> nice
[08:32] <munsa> cool
[08:32] <harisund> void^: what bootloader does freebsd use?
[08:32] <harisund> and what file system?
[08:32] <mjaudiophile> ohhh, I see...no I'm all the way in Virginia
[08:32] <lophyte> anyone know if its possible to have a script automatically run when a volume is mounted, kinda like an autorun.inf file?
[08:32] <hest> harisund ufs
[08:32] <munsa> Never tried Freebsd but it seems nice
[08:32] <javi555> munsa: where can i see the whatever?
[08:32] <munsa> ya know
[08:32] <harisund> ok hest..
[08:32] <javi555> munsa: how do i find how is it called?
[08:32] <woodgrain> harisund, I can see why the bug with the time won't let me do a sudo, but it doesn't explain why I can't just change the time back to something that'll make sudo happy in gnome?
[08:32] <harisund> munsa and javi555 might I join the discussion?
[08:32] <compotatoj> lophyte: that seems kind of insecure if you know what I mean
[08:32] <munsa> umm
[08:32] <munsa> cd mount
[08:32] <munsa> see whats there
[08:32] <javi555> please harisund!
[08:32] <compotatoj> lophyte: would the script be on the drive on on the computer?
[08:32] <munsa> cd mount ls
[08:33] <Scorpmoon> argh, WHY make an ubuntu update if it breaks the OS? and WHY put a forum post in the topic, instead of a direct solution !!
[08:33] <lophyte> compotatoj: on the drive
[08:33] <Scorpmoon> now I have to do immense reading
[08:33] <harisund> woodgrain I have no clue. Sorry :( .. .
[08:33] <ubuntu> how do i install dutch module in ubuntu
[08:33] <void^> harisund: eh, don't know how the boot loader is called. never had a problem with it. filesystem is ufs, possibly embedded in a bsd partition scheme within a regular pc partition
[08:33] <woodgrain> harisund, thanks for all the help.  thanks a lot.
[08:33] <harisund> ok never mind void^ ... thanks for the info though ...
[08:33] <harisund> woodgrain sure .. .no problem ... let me know if you get to dapper soon ...
[08:34] <harisund> and javi555 from what I understand you are SSHed into your server box right now, right?
[08:34] <compotatoj> lophyte: yeah, I wouldn't do that if I were you
[08:34] <tuna> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[08:34] <harisund> tuna it appears to be.
[08:34] <javi555> right
[08:34] <harisund> javi555 and then what did you do? Plug in a hard disk to the USB port of that server box?
[08:34] <javi555> no, some days ago i open the computer and installed and IDE hd
[08:34] <bean-oh> anyone know anything about reconfiguring my serial (ttyS0) port? Ubuntu didn't detect it correctly by default, so it doesn't work in minicom.
[08:34] <lophyte> tuna: I can't get to it either
[08:35] <harisund> javi555 I see... So you then have 2 hard disks in that server, right?
[08:35] <lophyte> compotatoj: bah.. but I'm lazy
[08:35] <gnomefreak> theya re down atm
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> what is the solution to the X server broke problem ???
[08:35] <javi555> harisund right
[08:35] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: do your updates
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> I did! how do I update from console, I'm used to GUI
[08:35] <harisund> javi555 ok cool. Can you post the contents of your /etc/fdisk somewhere on pastebin, for example?
[08:35] <bean-oh> Scorpmoon, update it again, or downgrade
[08:35] <javi555> but if i do a df i get Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[08:35] <javi555>                       37849768  26392688   9534420  74% /
[08:35] <javi555> varrun                  127404        40    127364   1% /var/run
[08:35] <javi555> varlock                 127404         4    127400   1% /var/lock
[08:35] <javi555> udev                    127404        80    127324   1% /dev
[08:35] <javi555> devshm                  127404         0    127404   0% /dev/shm
[08:35] <mjaudiophile> scorpmoon, basically to downgrade back to the previous update
[08:35] <Scorpmoon> why can't you post a friggin howto
[08:35] <javi555> ups!! sorry!
[08:35] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:36] <harisund> javi555 don't paste here. ok never mind ...
[08:36] <sorush20> where are my sources installed
[08:36] <harisund> uh oh .. that was a quick kick for poor javi555 by gnomefreak ...
[08:36] <gnomefreak> sorush20: sources?
[08:36] <Scorpmoon> apt-get upgrade only updates repositories
[08:36] <Scorpmoon> don't I need to actually fetch something?
[08:36] <javi555> I supposed I got banned because of my last post
[08:36] <donkeyofdarkness> hello
[08:36] <harisund> sorry javi555 ... gnomefreak kicked you kind of immediately :)
[08:36] <mjaudiophile> bean-oh, I don't know if I'm brave enough to try it again but does running teh update again repair the problem
[08:37] <javi555> harisund: what did you said?
[08:37] <Scorpmoon> why bomb Ubuntu back to the stoneage of unix? Isn't Ubuntu profiled as the userfriendly linux?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: apt-get update refreshes sources.list file apt-get upgrade gets upgrades to your packages
[08:37] <harisund> javi555 anyway ... coming back ... don't bother about df for now .. just output the contents of /etc/fstab either to me in a private message (/msg harisund .. ) or somewhere else
[08:37] <javi555> ok
[08:37] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm having a problem with InitNG and fglrx
[08:37] <wastrel> who is bombing now?
[08:37] <bean-oh> mjaudiophile, i saw if its in the repos 10.4, the update should fix it, it wasn't in my repo, so i did a wget to get 10.2, and downgraded to that
[08:37] <Scorpmoon> gnomefreak, do I just type "file apt-get upgrade" ?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: you type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:38] <Scorpmoon> oh upgrade, duh
[08:38] <gnomefreak> the 10.4 upgrade fixes it
[08:38] <Scorpmoon> why can't Ubuntu run an upgrade manually if something is broken?
[08:38] <Scorpmoon> for my grandma for instance
[08:38] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: thats not safe for starters
[08:39] <bean-oh> Scorpmoon, i would disable updates for stuff like X and kernel updates for your grandma.
[08:39] <sorush20> where are my sources installed to ?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> sorush20: sources for what i asked
[08:40] <Scorpmoon> ok then what's up with the insane amount of weekly upgrades to Ubuntu? Can't the core Ubuntu developers hold back abit? Stop keeping us for guinea pigs?
[08:40] <Tonren> I failed at XGL/Compiz.  :\
[08:40] <nn> How do i switch from X to a regular vt? ctrl-alt-fX doesnt work...
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: your getting a bit offtopic please stop or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <donkeyofdarkness> Does anyone know why InitNG makes my 3D stuff slow? I tried fglrxinfo and it says it's loading the driver.
[08:40] <gnomefreak> nn: ctrl+alt+f2
[08:40] <wastrel> Scorpmoon:  are you on dapper?
[08:40] <Scorpmoon> uhh, I think I'm getting quite close to the real deal.. but ok, if you're touchy about it :)
[08:41] <Scorpmoon> 6.06 yes
[08:41] <wastrel> Scorpmoon:  they're security updates
[08:41] <gnomefreak> nn: if you are using compiz/xgl that most likely wont work
[08:41] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know why this happens patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo bash: fglrxinfo: command not found
[08:41] <sorush20> apt-get source xserver-xorg gnomefreak
[08:41] <fredl> Hi, I installed tvtime, works great, except I have no sound. Any pointers?
[08:41] <nn> gnomefreak: I know how to normally switch, but ubuntu+xorg no luck ;(
[08:41] <gnomefreak> sorush20: i would think if you had the src repos enabled it should be in temp or home
[08:42] <wizard>  anyone running 64bit with ati?
[08:42] <fredl> I have a Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder card that receives the TV signal
[08:42] <nn> oh well.. screwit
[08:43] <Tonren> wizard: My laptop is 64bit, but I'm running 32bit ubuntu
[08:43] <Jack_Sparrow> good choice
[08:43] <wizard> oh
[08:43] <gnomefreak> sorush20: also try find or locate ;)
[08:43] <Scorpmoon> Ubuntu works now.. sorry for my offenses
[08:43] <wizard> running 64 on 64 bit
[08:43] <wizard> why 32bit?
[08:43] <Tonren> wizard: There isn't really any support for 64bit.  Flash doesn't work, etc.
[08:44] <Bagoor> I want to buy a PCMCIA modem. Are all the PCMCIA modem works in linux ? or I need to install driver ?
[08:44] <sorush20> gnomefreak: but dpkg has worked on it..
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Tonren: you can try gplflash for 64 bit but its kind of flakey if it works or not
[08:44] <axisme> Bagoor, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:44] <wizard> yea i know, was running 32 also till now, i have 32 firefox installed for java and flash
[08:45] <Tonren> gnomefreak: I tried, and it just wasn't working.  Additionally, I was having a  lot of trouble with stability and multimedia playback.  Since I switched to 32bit it's been a dream
[08:45] <gnomefreak> sorush20: locate or the find command have nothing to do with dpkg or apt but if you man dpkg there is a parameter you can use
[08:45] <compotatoj> Tonren: just get swiftfox using automatix, it is 32bit on a 64bit system and can run flash
[08:45] <E-Jey> is it already save to update my system with the new xserver-xorg?
[08:45] <compotatoj> !automatix > Tonren
[08:45] <Bagoor> axisme, there is not Modem part there !
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Tonren: not alot of 3rd party apts were built for 64 because its not the most widely used
[08:45] <axisme> you mean for wireless?
[08:45] <krizzer> i installed ubuntu on hdb1 but when i boot from that hd it says it cant mount the partiton and ubuntu wont load, but if i boot from hdb0, which has windows on it it will boot ubuntu and wont let me get into windows
[08:45] <matahari> hi
[08:46] <fresch> why the f*ck does nautilus keep wanting passwords when i do a screenshot? it is somehow related to the "connected servers" icons on my desktop. but really, if i just want to make a screenshot of my desktop, and not the contents of the servers... it is severely annoying
[08:46] <TheGateKeeper> Tonren: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava  amaroK and FLAC : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1413567
[08:46] <matahari> just wanted to ask if there is a way to install ubuntu via usb-stick
[08:46] <fredl> shouldn't saa7134_alsa capture audio directly from the TV card and play it on the audio card?
[08:46] <Tonren> compotatoj: I don't really trust Automatix.  I prefer to manually install most things.  Also, I've heard of Swiftfox, but didn't know that it could run flash on 64bit.  Don't you need a chroot to run 32bit apps on a 64bit build?
[08:46] <matahari> i have a mini-computer and want to turn into a server... but it has no floppy and no Cd drive
[08:46] <gnomefreak> matahari: i think there is
[08:46] <Tonren> gnomefreak: I'm aware; that's why I switched.  Maybe I'll switch back when 64bit has better support
[08:46] <axisme> bagoor, did you look under wired and wireless network cards?
[08:46] <Bagoor> matahari, start installing from network
[08:46] <Tonren> TheGateKeeper: That must be a new article...
[08:46] <gnomefreak> !install > matahari
[08:47] <matahari> thanks gnomefreak
[08:47] <sorush20> gnomefreak: locate doesn't work find doesn't work
[08:47] <jujimufu> so, I see there is a quake II package in apt-s repos.
[08:47] <matahari> okay, i will read this info, thanks!
[08:47] <jujimufu> Is this the real game, or is it the demo?
[08:47] <bean-oh> anyone know anything about reconfiguring a serial device?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> Tonren: dont count on it getting better unless ubuntu devs write thier own versions but its doubtfull
[08:47] <Bagoor> axisme, I'm looking for Modem, not network card !
[08:47] <wizard> i figgered why have a 64bit and run 32bit....quite disappointed buying it though
[08:47] <Tonren> gnomefreak: Aye.  That's why I'm sticking with 32bit.
[08:47] <TheGateKeeper> Tonren: what I pickup for you guys :-)
[08:47] <compotatoj> Tonren: no you don't need to chroot, it was meant for 64 bit I think, go to www.swiftfox.com and download the debs
[08:48] <axisme> if you say so heh good luck
[08:48] <compotatoj> sorry Tonren, www.getswiftfox.com
[08:48] <wizard> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 is how i did 32bit chit
[08:48] <Tonren> wizard: Honestly, I haven't noticed any drop in coolness now that I've switched to 32bit.  I don't really know what the benefits of 64bit are in the first place, and honestly, it seems like a stupid idea to me.  But anyway, 32bit runs just fine on 64bit arch.
[08:48] <compotatoj> Tonren: http://www.getswiftfox.com/ubuntu.htm
[08:48] <MASTER-PIGEON> . hi .
[08:48] <Tonren> compotatoj: I appreciate the idea, but I'm stickin' with 32bit.
[08:48] <Tonren> compotatoj: Now, if you know anything about getting XGL/Compiz running... hehehe
[08:48] <compotatoj> Tonren: I agree
[08:49] <compotatoj> Tonren: automatix-bleeder can install xgl/compi
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> I tried xgl but it used way too much ram
[08:49] <gnomefreak> Tonren: join #ubuntu-xgl and mine works fine on dapper ;)
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> and I failed at compiz
[08:49] <TheGateKeeper> Tonren: ooops thought you where running 64bit :-)
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> I ended up formatting :(
[08:49] <wizard> xgl worked nice on 32bit
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> I hear AIGLX is a better choice
[08:49] <wizard> 64??? no luck yet...freezing
[08:49] <_rynz-> (breaking news)(ap/reuters) - Microsoft has purchased Freenode.  In an apparent consolidation of resources/finances, irc servers and website services will cease to be public within 3 business weeks.
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> But I haven't tried it
[08:50] <crimsun> if anyone is using EsounD, please let me know the result from ``test -L /tmp/.esd ; echo $?''
[08:50] <xan> Hi, I have installed ubuntu 6.06 and I have a laptop with Intel 3945ABG wifi card and router with wpa. I just want to know if ubuntu supports it?
[08:50] <Tonren> TheGateKeeper: Hehehe, nope
[08:50] <Bagoor> crimsun, 1
[08:50] <harleypig> Is there a how to or tutorial on how to build a package from source?
[08:50] <holden> Hi. Does anyone knows if Ubuntu 6.06 installation works on a SATA disk? Thanks
[08:50] <crimsun> Bagoor: is it a directory in itself instead (not a symlink)?
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> harleypig: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[08:51] <Bagoor> crimsun, I have a directory there, .esd-1000
[08:51] <cavediver> Is the forum down?
[08:51] <cavediver> Seems to be from here atm.
[08:51] <harleypig> thanks.
[08:51] <crimsun> Bagoor: Dapper?
[08:51] <xan> Hi?
[08:52] <Bagoor> crimsun, yes
[08:52] <TheGateKeeper> harleypig: yw :-)
[08:52] <_rynz-> www.freenode.net/pressrelease/acquisition.htm
[08:52] <krizzer> how do i get into windows, ubuntu loads and wont elt me choose windows instead
[08:52] <munsa> Hello, can anyone help me update my repositories I am lookin for gnomebaker but i cant seem to find it
[08:52] <xan> Can anyone answer me?
[08:52] <erUSUL> !wifi > xan
[08:52] <fredl> cool, I can watch TV now with mplayer including sound.... I just wonder why it won't work with tvtime
[08:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I wouldn't let people choose windows either :p
[08:52] <Bagoor> crimsun, drwxrwxrwt  2 bagoor bagoor  72 2006-08-23 19:07 .esd-1000
[08:53] <donkeyofdarkness> You need to edit grub
[08:53] <krizzer> yea but i dont kno the command
[08:53] <crimsun> Bagoor: ok, thanks.
[08:53] <fredl> does anybody know how to use tvtime with alsa?
[08:53] <munsa> I think I have universe and multiuniverse installed but my app list seems small i think I am missing one or something
[08:53] <TheGateKeeper> munsa: I have looked for that in the package search engine doesn't seem to be there, and google doesn't seem to know much about it either
[08:53] <holden> is anyone using a SATA disk with Ubuntu? I wanted to know if it would work
[08:54] <algabone> hi all
[08:54] <Bagoor> holden, yes, I do
[08:54] <krizzer> do you know what the command is donkey
[08:54] <donkeyofdarkness> krizzer I'll tell you what you need to add in a /msg
[08:54] <erUSUL> xan: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[08:54] <munsa> TheGateKeeper I can find it apt-get install gnomebaker easy, but the thing is I want access to all the cool packages I had before
[08:54] <krizzer> ok
[08:54] <algabone> does anyone know which one is the right version for xserver-xorg-core ?
[08:54] <holden> Bagoor: thanks, does it work just out of the box?
[08:54] <algabone> i had an issue these days
[08:54] <TheGateKeeper> holden: I'm not using SATA, but I think you can use them with linux
[08:54] <DShepherd> algabone: 10.4
[08:54] <erUSUL> algabone: the last one
[08:55] <algabone> and i heard was already fixed
[08:55] <algabone> 10.4
[08:55] <algabone> thanks
[08:55] <algabone> :D
[08:55] <Bagoor> holden, It depends on your SATA Chipset. Mine is Intel, and work correctly :)
[08:55] <Qball> sata and linux works fine
[08:55] <xan> erUSUL : I know that, but the question is is it integred in ubuntu?
[08:55] <holden> TheGateKeeper: ok, i'll try
[08:55] <thegve> Hello. Got a slight problem running X. At work we've bought a new server ( HP Proliant ML150 G3 ). And the thingy is certified for SuSE and RedHat, so it comes with video drivers. I've tested them under Ubuntu (the distro the server will run) and CentOS.
[08:55] <Qball> 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3)
[08:55] <erUSUL> xan: i think that it is not. you will have to compile the module and tools yourself
[08:55] <holden> Bagoor: ok, i just check, and my chipset (Uli) is supported, thank you
[08:55] <thegve> Under CentOS the graphics works using the vesa drivers, under Ubuntu I totally can't get graphics to work.
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> holden: don't know if drivers are an issue
[08:56] <thegve> Anyone experienced using Matrox G200 chips under Ubuntu?
[08:56] <covOPprometheus> sup, anyone knows how to edit audio-file-tags ? ( the ones seen under properties, not ID3)
[08:56] <xan> erUSUL: I suspected it....
[08:56] <TheGateKeeper> munsa: this not do it then? http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[08:56] <thegve> I called HP, and they wouldn't help me. "Ubuntu is not supported yet (late this year probably)"
[08:57] <xan> For that I wanted to know it "officially"
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> munsa: you can google for recommendations on ubuntu repos
[08:57] <izirku> i have a Ubuntu dapper laptop with eth0 (network card - static ip) and eth1(wireless dyn ip) running trough a WRT54G router as an access point to internet... what would be recommended as far as firewall goes?
[08:58] <xan> well, thanks
[08:58] <xan> bye
[08:58] <thegve> munsa: While googling, I have a feeling you'd want easyubuntu
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables
[08:58] <cavediver> izirku: it has a built in fw.
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> izirku: ^^^^
[08:58] <sambagirl> is there a nice intranet/extranet server for ubuntu?
[08:58] <dgl> Why Dapper uses PostgreSQL 7.4 instead 8.1?
[08:59] <thegve> sambagirl: What features?
[08:59] <erUSUL> !info postgres
[08:59] <ubotu> Package postgres does not exist in dapper
[08:59] <dgl> Why does Dapper use PostgreSQL 7.4 instead 8.1?
[08:59] <dgl> postgresql
[08:59] <thegve> sambagirl: Some sort of CMS or something?
[08:59] <sambagirl> mail server / file transfers / calenders /
[08:59] <GoodGolly> !info shorewall
[08:59] <ubotu> shorewall: Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.4-1 (dapper), package size 211 kB, installed size 1068 kB
[08:59] <thegve> sambagirl: Check out zimbra
[08:59] <erUSUL> !info postgres-8.1 > dgl
[08:59] <sambagirl> Kirux Kuadra Enterprise Server is this good?
[08:59] <ubotu> Package postgres-8.1 does not exist in dapper
[09:00] <dgl> !info postgresql
[09:00] <ubotu> postgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.16.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:00] <sambagirl> ok brb thegve
[09:00] <dgl> !info postgresql-8.1
[09:00] <ubotu> postgresql-8.1: object-relational SQL database, version 8.1 server. In component main, is optional. Version 8.1.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2952 kB, installed size 12608 kB
[09:00] <erUSUL> !info postgresql-8.1 > dgl
[09:00] <ubotu> postgresql-8.1: object-relational SQL database, version 8.1 server. In component main, is optional. Version 8.1.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2952 kB, installed size 12608 kB
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> dgl: wild guess -- maybe holding it back for edgy like they did with firefox
[09:00] <urmom> i need help
[09:00] <urmom> when i try to edit xorg.conf in gedit i get command not forund
[09:00] <_rynz-> urmom
[09:01] <sambagirl> thegrv what is the difference between open source and network edition? do you know?
[09:01] <_rynz-> your nickname tends to make me think that in mmorpgs like wow, you run up to everyone
[09:01] <_rynz-> begging for gold
[09:01] <|thunder-afk> urmom, try sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 I need gold plzzzzzzzzzzzzz, plzzz give me gold
[09:01] <_rynz-> hahahaha
[09:01] <_rynz-> urmom
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> urmom: gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:01] <thegve> sambagirl: Not sure, I "think" only support
[09:01] <_rynz-> be a real man
[09:02] <donkeyofdarkness> krizzer, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/19644-how-add-windows-2k-xp-grub.html
[09:02] <_rynz-> and use "pico"
[09:02] <TheGateKeeper> urmom: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ooops
[09:02] <cica> guys...
[09:02] <izirku> any preference between fwbuilder, firestarter, quicktables or shorewall?
[09:02] <_rynz-> ^_^
[09:02] <|thunder-afk> TheGateKeeper, you need and editor in there somewhere
[09:02] <GoodGolly> izirku: i use firestarter, it is great
[09:02] <cica> whats the apt-get command to install the build essentials is it: sudo apt-get install build-essentials ?
[09:02] <sambagirl> ahh ok thegve
[09:02] <erUSUL> _rynz-: pico is not free software better nano ;)
[09:02] <ravenous> cica: no s on the end, build-essential, but yes
[09:02] <cica> ravenous: cheers mate
[09:02] <|thunder-afk> cica, yep, try typing 'sudo apt-get install build-' then hit tab twice
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> |thunder-afk: I put it in on the second try, ooops :-)
[09:03] <urmom> i need gedit
[09:03] <cica> thunder-afk: thanks :-)
[09:03] <blend> !mp3
[09:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:03] <urmom> it says canot open display: (null)
[09:03] <|thunder-afk> urmom, try nano
[09:03] <urmom> i did
[09:03] <erUSUL> urmom: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:03] <GoodGolly> urmom: do you have x running? lol
[09:03] <blend> !packages
[09:03] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:04] <thegve> sambagirl: (Not working or affiliated with zimbra by the way ... ) http://www.zimbra.com/products/hosted_demo.php Tried the hosted demo?
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> urmom: you using gnome?, if kde kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:04] <Aciid> 
[09:04] <sambagirl> what do you think about yes right now thegve
[09:04] <urmom> thanks that worked
[09:04] <sambagirl> i like the design it's soft in colour
[09:04] <TheGateKeeper> urmom: or the cli sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:05] <sambagirl> this will run on ubuntu?
[09:05] <sambagirl> if we use ubuntu as server?
[09:05] <thegve> I ran it on Debian
[09:05] <thegve> I guess it would work. It is a quite popular system
[09:05] <_rynz-> urmom
[09:05] <_rynz-> i need gold plz
[09:05] <erUSUL> !offtopic > _rynz-
[09:05] <_rynz-> Yourmother, not: urmom
[09:05] <_rynz-> d00d speak :)
[09:06] <sambagirl> ahh zimbra costs money!!!
[09:06] <Aciidcl0bber> bleh.......
[09:06] <Aciidcl0bber> now i g2g downtown
[09:06] <Aciidcl0bber> BRILLIANT
[09:06] <_JP> is it possible that xorg update caused usb wlan-stick to stop working?
[09:06] <FurryNemesis> _JP, quite possibly
[09:07] <FurryNemesis> _JP, see the forums
[09:07] <bean-oh> anyone familiar with setting up serial devices in ubuntu? or know where I might look? i poked around a bit, but i don't think its a linux thing, ubuntu isn't detecting the port correctly.
[09:07] <_JP> FurryNemesis: ok thanks
[09:08] <blend> hi guys, im trying to install the gstreamer packages to play my mp3 files, but have no clue where to find it, i cant seem to find the right ones using synaptic, any help pls?
[09:08] <GoodGolly> blend: you might need to add more repositories
[09:08] <Tidus> !restricted
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <GoodGolly> blend: check also ubuntuguide.org
[09:08] <thegve> sambagirl: http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html Costs money?
[09:08] <blend> GoodGolly ok mate can u pls tell me how to do that, im a newbie, using linux for 3 days now
[09:09] <GoodGolly> blend: here i will get you a direct link
[09:09] <blend> ok cool thanks
[09:09] <Tidus> !tell blend -about restricted
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell blend -about restricted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Linuturk_code> !restricted > blend
[09:09] <Tidus> lol woops... forgot how to use the bot >.>
[09:09] <Linuturk_code> i got it Tidus
[09:09] <thegve> sambagirl: Zimbra has multiple licenses. A mozilla alike license and a commercial one.
[09:09] <sambagirl> thegrv cant i just do a apt-get intranet install
[09:09] <sambagirl> sorta like that?
[09:09] <blend> Linuturk_code
[09:09] <blend> ok thanks
[09:09] <blend> got the pm
[09:10] <blend> will check it now
[09:10] <sambagirl> oh we need a fax and print server and im
[09:10] <sambagirl> ahh ok thegve
[09:10] <cry0gen> hmm
[09:10] <thegve> sambagirl: http://www.zimbra.com/products/what_version.html -- now enough about zimbra lol
[09:10] <cry0gen> One thing I have noticed is the girl population on ubuntu is greater than any other distro I have ever seen. I am enjoying this :D
[09:10] <sambagirl> anyone iknow anything about this? http://www.kirux.net/
[09:10] <GoodGolly> blend: this link will be helpful http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:11] <thegve> sambagirl: Don't know of anything in the ubuntu rebos.
[09:11] <sambagirl> ok thegve but you brought it up :)
[09:11] <ph> hello
[09:12] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to run the Live CD on an old desktop and it's hanging on "Mounting root file system..."  What do I do?
[09:12] <blend> GoodGolly thanks will check that one 2
[09:12] <GoodGolly> Tonren: run the cd option "check cd for media defects"
[09:12] <Tidus> blend: check PM that i sent you as well
[09:12] <GoodGolly> Tonren: to make sure that cd is good
[09:12] <Tonren> GoodGolly: I'm certain that the CD is good because I ordered it from ShipIt and have run it on other computers
[09:13] <ph> How, during installation, can i define the default gdm theme?
[09:13] <GoodGolly> Tonren: then i am not sure
[09:13] <|thunder-afk> ph, dont think you can till its installed
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys what are the default modifier keys to start using some of the cool features in xgl/compiz
[09:14] <blend> Tidus just did and replied pls check pm
[09:14] <GoodGolly> !info xgl > Paddy_EIRE
[09:14] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in dapper
[09:14] <thegve> sambagirl: Debian-edu has everything except the email function compared to Kirux. And I don't know Kirux, what usualy means it is a small project, what usually means it's community is small...
[09:14] <|thunder-afk> ph, but thats ok cuz after installation you can sudo apt-get install gdm-themes to have more to choose from.
[09:14] <ph> how does ubuntu define an ubuntu-gdm theme by default?
[09:14] <thegve> sambagirl: Now out to drink coffee...
 already have it installed mate
[09:14] <ph> |thunder-afk, actually, im making my own theme, for a computer lab
[09:15] <|thunder-afk> ohh
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !compiz
[09:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:15] <|thunder-afk> later all
[09:16] <sambagirl> thegve does it have a nice interface for users do you know? or is it ugly?
[09:16] <sambagirl> ok thegve brb
[09:17] <Tidus> blend: i'm not seeing any replies from you.  possible you haven't registered your nick?
[09:17] <blend> tidus yeah :$ sorry abt that
[09:17] <blend> anywya
[09:17] <blend> i followed ur pm
[09:17] <blend> however my original problem was:
[09:17] <blend> ok mate cuz my problem is im getting that i need to install those additional plugins, its just that i have no clue where to download it from
[09:18] <Tidus> blend: the pm i sent you ... go to that website :)
[09:18] <blend> Tidus just did mate and u saved my life :D
[09:19] <cica> whats the standard bit torrent app for ubuntu?
[09:19] <blend> tidus one more question at the price of getting on ur nerves ;) how can i register my nick here?
[09:19] <sethk> cica, there are no standard apps in ubuntu.
[09:19] <Tidus> blend: /msg nickserv help register
[09:20] <czoczo> hi
[09:20] <GoodGolly> cica: azureus is my favorite... gnome comes with a minimal one called "Bittorrent" i think... and
[09:21] <sysdoc> _rynz-, that post on msft you put up a few minutes ago, do ya have a url?
[09:21] <cica> thanks guys
[09:21] <blend> Great stuff Tidus, thanks for ur help mate, im off for some tweaking :D laters
[09:22] <Tidus> seeya
[09:24] <dravas> !compiz
[09:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:24] <keitaro> anyone here familiar with wine?
[09:24] <ccooke> soe
[09:24] <ccooke> some, that is
[09:24] <Mr0bvious> No :P
[09:24] <Tonren> Hey guys, what do I do if the Live CD hangs on Mounting root file system?
[09:25] <MrZTower> is ubuntu's bind chrooted by default/
[09:25] <MrZTower> ?
[09:25] <dashriKe> k, so I have used Ubuntu for a while [as I was told it was a good way to learn] , should I continue with it, or upgrade to a more powerful/functional distro?
[09:25] <MystaMax> why is that when I use Terminal service Client and the colors are set to 16bit or higher, the windows are see-through???
[09:25] <rsk> dashriKe, not really
[09:25] <axisme> Tonren, install the server cd then install ubuntu desktop within
[09:26] <klork> hullo guys.. am trying to boot up dapper cd for desktop (sum matches of the downloaded) and select the ' start or install ubuntu ' X starts up fine but get stuck on going thru virtual consoles it shows hda read errors invalid block ......... have tried the same on 32 bit as well as 64 one
[09:26] <Tonren> axisme: Can I do a server install by adding "server" to the boot options?  I thought there was a quick way to do it...
[09:26] <papetowe> is anyone skilled in configuring wirelss drivers, im stuck on installing my driver with ndiswrapper
[09:26] <synic> dashriKe: I've been using linux for 8 years and I use Ubuntu
[09:26] <tjb891_> since I don't use windows anymore is upnp safe to use now on my router?
[09:26] <axisme> Tonren, its a different CD i think......
[09:26] <Tonren> papetowe: Are you using Broadcom?
[09:27] <dashriKe> is there any difference in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu other than the GUIs?
[09:27] <axisme> Tonren, Thats what I did when a laptop i was installing hung during the live cd startup. I really hate the idea of a live cd install
[09:27] <Tonren> dashriKe: Nope.  The different Ubuntus just use different window/desktop managers
[09:27] <Tonren> axisme: Cool... thanks for the tip
[09:27] <MrZTower> ?WIN L
[09:27] <kapace> hello
[09:27] <axisme> Tonren, Takes awhile though
[09:28] <kapace> how can i get java on ubuntu 6.06?
[09:28] <Tonren> axisme: To do what?
[09:28] <axisme> Tonren, might take longer to find another answer though hehe
[09:28] <axisme> Tonren, to install desktop from the server install
[09:28] <albertoalarcon> como puedo obtener el messenger para ubuntu
[09:28] <Tonren> axisme: Meh.  at least the server install will be fast, hehe
[09:29] <axisme> Tonren, thats true
[09:29] <papetowe> hey guys im back
[09:29] <axisme> Tonren, to be fair i did do it on an old IBM, probably faster on better hardware :-)
[09:29] <papetowe> i'll find my model , one sec
[09:29] <keitaro> Anyone have issues with wine and getting them to recognize TTF fonts? All my fonts in wine look like gtk1
[09:29] <tjb891_> is upnp safe to use with ubuntu?
[09:29] <Tonren> albertoalarcon: aqui por favor solamente habla ingles.  pero... ubuntu tiene un messenger que llama "gaim"
[09:30] <keitaro> i've tried copying the ttf fonts to wine's C:\windows\fonts, but it still uses the ugly fonts
[09:31] <albertoalarcon> thank my friend
[09:31] <papetowe> is anyone skilled in configuring wirelss drivers, im stuck on installing my driver with ndiswrapper --my card is a WIFI Card BCM 4318 Air Force One
[09:32] <axisme> papetowe, who makes it?
[09:32] <papetowe> hmmm, it didnt say
[09:32] <papetowe> my computer is a compa presario m2000 laptop
[09:32] <bruenig> compa, hmmm
[09:32] <papetowe> compaq*
[09:32] <axisme> papetowe, broadcom i think
[09:33] <bruenig> the answer is always broadcom
[09:33] <papetowe> ok.
[09:33] <papetowe> i tried istalling it thought the terminal and it said it couldnt be installed
[09:33] <papetowe> i rebooted since then so i ant paste the error
[09:34] <axisme> papetowe, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[09:34] <Mr0bvious> papetowe: You want to use something besides ndiswrapper fro that
[09:34] <Mr0bvious> I have the same exact chipset
[09:34] <Mr0bvious> !bcm43xx
[09:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:34] <papetowe> i've read all of that and followed it
[09:34] <albertoalarcon> como bajo el yahoo messeger como se llama
[09:34] <papetowe> i still get that error that says it cant be installed
[09:35] <Mr0bvious> albertoalarcon: va a #ubuntu-es por favor, esta un canal en ingles, no esta espanol aqui
[09:35] <axisme> papetowe, dunno then, sorry
[09:35] <Subhuman> papetowe, does it say anything about the checksum failing?
[09:35] <papetowe> !bcm43xx
[09:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:35] <papetowe> nope
[09:35] <Subhuman> because some of the firmware is corrupt that is circulating
[09:35] <keitaro> !wine
[09:35] <Mr0bvious> papetowe: Did you do fwcutter and all that?
[09:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:35] <Bigsky> Hello. Can someone point me to a doc that show's howto dualboot Ubuntu but having Ubuntu on a separate slave disk? Winxp being the primary.
[09:35] <Subhuman> so it wont install cuz of that.
[09:35] <papetowe> no
[09:35] <Mr0bvious> papetowe: Do that then.
[09:35] <papetowe> i just followed the guides and they said to use ndiswrapper
[09:35] <marshall_> does anybody know an easy way to get amsn to have antialiasing?
[09:36] <Mr0bvious> Ok don't
[09:36] <Subhuman> Bigsky, i do it now, ubuntu will sort that out on install.
[09:36] <marshall_> if i instal with automatix, will it have antialiasing?
[09:36] <Subhuman> Bigsky, jus make sure you install ubuntu to /dev/hdb instead of a
[09:36] <Mr0bvious> papetowe: Lemme get you a link, it's the ubuntu forums, and a whole thread is dedicated to this issue
[09:36] <papetowe> im willing to switch distros, does anyone know of one that has good wireless driver support
[09:36] <papetowe> i've probablly read it but ill give it a try
[09:36] <Subhuman> marshall_, no, amsn never seems to have it, if you want a half decent msn client, try Mercury ( http://mercury.to )
[09:36] <marshall_> papetowe:  ive heard some pretty good things about archlinux
[09:37] <marshall_> Subhuman:  ok, thanks
[09:37] <axisme> papetowe, suse is quite good...but ubuntu is quite good...
[09:37] <richiefrich> fidel yo yo
[09:37] <papetowe> yeah i like ubuntu
[09:37] <fidel> hi richi
[09:37] <papetowe> ive just spent like4 hours on configuring wireless and ive got no where
[09:37] <richiefrich> sup
[09:38] <marshall_> papetowe:  i wouldnt switch just yet man, everything is coming out for ubuntu. its popularity has opened a ton of doors
[09:38] <axisme> papetowe, well could try suse.....maybe google for a distro that works with it out of the box
[09:38] <fidel> chilling trying to learn hoe to deploy a lamp server
[09:38] <Mr0bvious> papetowe: You need to use fwcutter. I'm trying to find the thread in particular
[09:38] <papetowe> what does fwcutter do exactly?
[09:38] <richiefrich> whats hoe?
[09:38] <Bigsky> Subhuman: ok.. and that's with Ubuntu jumpered as slave? After the install and I reboot How will windows no if I want to boot Windows or Ubuntu?
[09:38] <axisme> I gave him the thread
[09:38] <richiefrich> fidel i can help on LAMP
[09:38] <axisme> he said he followed it
[09:38] <axisme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear  that one
[09:39] <fidel> really  it would be graet
[09:39] <Anubuntu> Does anyone know of a program that can resize ext3 partitions?
[09:39] <richiefrich> fidel  what u need  to know
[09:39] <papetowe> ok
[09:39] <papetowe> ill check it out
[09:39] <fidel> I install a lamp server with ubuntu 6 then I install a gui
[09:39] <marshall_> is there any way to run windows off of your windows partition alongside linux?
[09:40] <richiefrich> what gui
[09:40] <dougsko> Anubuntu: fdisk, or qtparted, the later will be easier
[09:40] <dougsko> *latter
[09:40] <Subhuman> Bigsky, yeah the jumper is fine, what will happen on install is ubuntu wil ldetect windows xp and ask to install GRUB, let it do this, then when you reboot, you will be greeted with a GRUB menu which will allow you to choose either ubuntu or windows xp to boot, (btw if you are new to linux, i suggest once youve installed ubuntu to run easyubuntu or automatix to get the essentials installed, jus makes it easy)
[09:40] <fidel> but I guess now I need more experience with mysql commands
[09:40] <thegve> Anubuntu: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[09:40] <Anubuntu> dougsko qtparted says: This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout!  Parted can't resize this (yet).
[09:40] <richiefrich> ahh what u need to know
[09:40] <richiefrich> fidel do u have itk setup
[09:40] <Subhuman> dougsko, im getting the same error moving an ext3 parititon
[09:40] <fidel> it comes with root and no password
[09:41] <richiefrich> fidel can u get to the  mysql> ?
[09:41] <Mr0bvious> Yeah that's it
[09:41] <richiefrich> then u need to set it up
[09:41] <dougsko> Anubuntu: ok, well whats your current layout look like, and what are you trying to do?
[09:41] <thegve> Anubuntu: If gparted says that too, then do an fsck on it...
[09:41] <richiefrich> fidel let me get u that
[09:41] <fidel> I need to create an ccount that apache users can write to
[09:41] <papetowe> It seems that if you get the following string back: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) that this guide is VERY unlikly to work for you although it does sometimes, dont ask me why, but basically every "no" vote and "this didnt work for me" post comes from a BCM4318 user....
[09:41] <Anubuntu> dougsko, trying to resize my media drive into the empty space before it
[09:41] <luxc> how to configure linux kernel with ubuntu?
[09:41] <papetowe> thats my card.
[09:41] <Anubuntu> (used to have an ntfs drive there)
[09:42] <thegve> fidel: An account that users can write too?
[09:42] <richiefrich> !kernel >  luxc
[09:42] <fidel> yes
[09:42] <thegve> fidel: Do you mean a www-data account that has write rights to /var/www?
[09:42] <Bigsky> Subhuman: Sweet. Thanks bunchs.. Is this based off the Debian branch of linux?
[09:42] <thegve> fidel: Cause I don't get what you mean by writing to an account...
[09:42] <richiefrich> fidel
[09:42] <richiefrich> /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
[09:42] <daveb> anyone know where to put calls to vbetool to save/restore video state on suspend to ram? ie: what scripts should I edit. I am trying to use gnome-power-manager with Dapper.
[09:42] <fidel> I'm trying to instll a point of sale call php pos
[09:42] <richiefrich> fidel  /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h arch password 'new-password'
[09:42] <Subhuman> Bigsky, yes, ubuntu uses the APT package system which is debian.
[09:43] <richiefrich>  mysql -u root -h localhost -p
[09:43] <richiefrich> fidel them ?
[09:43] <Subhuman> Bigsky, btw, APT kicks ass :D
[09:43] <dougsko> Anubuntu: yeah, i dont know about that. i think you have to format everything after the empty block first
[09:43] <dougsko> Anubuntu: i dont think you can just stick stuff in the middle
[09:43] <fidel> that would do what ?
[09:43] <Anubuntu> dougsko, that would mean loosing even more data....
[09:44] <kapace> can some one help me install java?
[09:44] <Bigsky> Subhuman: Great. Thanks. I just installed Debaian the other day at school and the Synaptic Pkg Manager makes things real easy.
[09:44] <richiefrich> fidel make a  root account and set a pssword to it
[09:44] <dougsko> well, copy you stuff to another partition
[09:44] <fidel> oh
[09:44] <Subhuman> Bigsky, yeah ubuntu has synaptic installed.
[09:44] <richiefrich> then u can log into it
[09:44] <Anubuntu> dougsko, so actually... would I be able to create a new partition in the empty space, copy all my data over, and then resize the other way?
[09:44] <thegve> I've asked this around 19.00 (GMT +1) before.. Does anyone here have experience with Matrox graphics cards under ubuntu?
[09:44] <dougsko> im almost positive you have to format before resizing anyway
[09:44] <Bigsky> Subhuman: I'm assuming APT is the command line version
[09:44] <stfn> is there a standard way or place to read changelogs before installing updates?  for example, could I have confirmed that xserver-xorg-core in dapper has reverted that recent crasher without installing it and reading /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/changelog.Debian.gz ?
[09:44] <richiefrich> fidel then u can u make databases  and set permissions
[09:44] <fidel> are you on ubuntu 6 or 5
[09:44] <Paddy_EIRE> guys anyone have a proper shortcut list for compiz plugins
[09:44] <richiefrich> fidel   mysql -u root -h localhost -p
[09:45] <Anubuntu> dougsko, ick... actually
[09:45] <richiefrich> that logs into mysql
[09:45] <dougsko> Anubuntu: size it up, then write the filesystem
[09:45] <richiefrich> fidel no
[09:45] <papetowe> whoever told me to use fwcutter, it wont work
[09:45] <luxc> do exit "xconfig" or "menuconfig"
[09:45] <Subhuman> Bigsky, yes, and apt is actually a frontend for dpkg....itz sorta complex.
[09:45] <thegve> As we've bought a HP Proliant ml 150.
[09:45] <Anubuntu> dougsko, ill try doing it in windows with ptmagic
[09:45] <richiefrich> fidel mysqul is mysql
[09:45] <mathieu> stfn: apt-listchanges
[09:45] <Placid> Greetings :)
[09:45] <dougsko> Anubuntu: ok
[09:45] <papetowe> is anyone skilled in configuring wirelss drivers, im stuck on installing my driver with ndiswrapper --my card is a WIFI Card BCM 4318 Air Force One
[09:45] <Bigsky> Subhuman: Thanks. I'll read up on it.
[09:45] <_rynz-> http://www.websense.com/docs/Datasheets/en-gb/v6.1/Websense_RemoteFiltering.pdf#search=%22websense%20remote%20filtering%20agent%22
[09:46] <Placid> Erm, I have a question regarding a CHROOT environment I set up a while ago
[09:46] <Placid> Basically, I want to remove the CHROOT directory etc
[09:46] <fidel> my other problem is with ubuntu 6 I dont know how to het to this chatt on 6 and with 5 I can and my server is on 6
[09:46] <Placid> is it ok for me to just rm -rf it?
[09:46] <bean-oh> anyone know anything about serial devices (ttyS*)?
[09:46] <thegve> papetowe: What is going wrong, I've installed some..
[09:46] <fidel> get
[09:46] <richiefrich> Placid go on
[09:46] <papetowe> its not ever there
[09:46] <papetowe> its not in the package manager ethier
[09:46] <Placid> richiefrich: Well, I want to remove it (it's under /chroot/*)
[09:46] <ivan> hello
[09:47] <Placid> richiefrich: is it safe for me to sudo rm -fr /chroot/?
[09:47] <tf4> is there a setting which makes the 'fade' inand out of menus go a little quicker?
[09:47] <richiefrich> Placid are u in the chroot ?
[09:47] <ivan> hola
[09:47] <papetowe> oh, i cant install the driver for my card
[09:47] <Placid> richiefrich: no, i'm in my normal root
[09:47] <kapace> how to install java?
[09:47] <richiefrich> Placid if it's not mounted
[09:47] <ivan> hello
[09:47] <richiefrich> Placid then del it
[09:47] <Placid> richiefrich: ok...should I umount /chroot ? o,o0
[09:47] <Placid> df -h
[09:47] <argument> !java > kapace
[09:47] <Placid> woops >.<
[09:47] <richiefrich> Placid yes u need to
[09:47] <richiefrich> Placid do u want the info ?
[09:47] <argument> kapace, it's in the wiki
[09:47] <Bigsky> Subhuman: will "easyubuntu" and "automatix" work on Xubuntu? I'm assuming it will but that's actually what I'm installing because my pc is old and only has 96megs of ram.
[09:48] <richiefrich> Placid on that mount point ?
[09:48] <luxc> how to configure linux kernel ?
[09:48] <Placid> richiefrich: shall I show you my df -h ?
[09:48] <ivan> "Ex-Chat"
[09:48] <Placid> richiefrich: i'm a little confused :)
[09:48] <argument> Bigsky, it should... choice of DE shouldn't affect whether easyubuntu runs
[09:48] <sethk> luxc, depends what you mean by that.  most likely the answer is to rebuild the kernel with the options you require
[09:48] <richiefrich> Placid  Placid ok what im asking if the files in  in /chroot ? do u want them
[09:48] <argument> Bigsky, you can run GNOME apps in KDE and KDE apps in GNOME and all of them in XFCE
[09:48] <luxc> yes
[09:48] <richiefrich> !kernel >  luxc
[09:49] <richiefrich> luxc look at pm
[09:49] <sethk> luxc, have you installed kernel source?
[09:49] <Bigsky> Subhuman: Great.. thanks again.
[09:49] <richiefrich> !kernel
[09:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:49] <Placid> richiefrich: no, i don't want it anymore. i can see /home & /dev are also mounted /chroot
[09:49] <richiefrich> ^^ luxc ^^] 
[09:49] <munsa> can someone help me with an Mplayer Problem??
[09:49] <Bigsky> argument: NIce.. thankyou
[09:49] <thegve> papetowe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21505
[09:49] <thegve> it is in apt
[09:49] <richiefrich> Placid show me your dh -f
[09:49] <Placid> richiefrich: i've sent you a link with the `df -h` output
[09:49] <richiefrich> df -h
[09:49] <SexyBoBo-work> question is there a list of all avalible pakages in the ubuntu repository or is there a list option like there is in yum?
[09:49] <papetowe> thanks
[09:50] <Subhuman> SexyBoBo-work, theres about 11000 packages
[09:50] <Subhuman> i doubt your want to list ALL of them
[09:50] <Placid> richiefrich: ok?
[09:50] <richiefrich> yes yes
[09:50] <SexyBoBo-work> but i do
[09:50] <fidel> How do i get to this chatt on ubuntu 6 gys?
[09:50] <Subhuman> SexyBoBo-work, you can search on the cli with "apt-cache search" or in synaptic
[09:50] <bean-oh> fidel, xChat
[09:50] <Subhuman> fidel, "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[09:50] <Subhuman> or use gaim, but xchat is better.
[09:50] <fidel> cool
[09:51] <argument> Bigsky, basically it just comes down to whether or not the app you're using has integration with your desktokp environment... for example GNOME apps often don't have drag'n'drop capability within KDE and vice versa
[09:51] <bean-oh> fidel, in xchat the server and auto-join is already setup, just need to connect.
[09:51] <thegve> Subhuman: xchat-gnome
[09:51] <munsa> can someone please help me with an Mplayer problem? It keeps telling me cannot initalize audio device
[09:51] <munsa> so i have no sound
[09:51] <MrRio_> Oops, that X bug was a nasty one
[09:51] <ardchoille> I'm using Window Maker from the Ubuntu 6.06 repos and I am having a problem with the menu. it seems to be erased upon trying to edit it with the wm gui editor. Where is the system-wide window maker menu?
[09:51] <argument> ewww, xchat-gnome is teh suxors... use xchat-2
[09:51] <thegve> Subhuman: Gnome frontend to xchat... Slightly nicer..
[09:51] <MrRio_> Did it break for everyone that upgraded?
[09:52] <Subhuman> thegve, more like crippled.
[09:52] <argument> thegve, more like way fewer features and way farther alpha
[09:52] <argument> thegve, xchat-gnome is like version 0.1b while xchat-2 is on version 2.x
[09:52] <argument> hardly what i'd call "nicer"
[09:52] <argument> given that xchat-2 uses GTK it's got the same widget set as xchat-gnome
[09:53] <munsa> anyone know anything about Mplayer??
[09:53] <thegve> argument: Like what am I missing that I really need (I'm not an everyday IRC'er by the way, just 5 times a week)
[09:53] <argument> munsa, nope nothing :)
[09:53] <JackMacOKC> i haven't read or updated, anyone wanna give me the skinny on the latest xorg update? was there a big fix?
[09:53] <luxc> PM is the only way to configure kernel and what about "menuconfig"?
[09:53] <munsa> argument, can you help me with something
[09:53] <MrRio_> I think there should be an updates repo that is one day ahead for advanced users, then any possible issues can be flagged up by people not scared off by a commandline
[09:53] <argument> thegve, i dunno man, i tried xchat-gnome and i missed plenty of things that I can't recall
[09:53] <argument> that's just me tho
[09:53] <argument> munsa, just ask your question and someone here may help you
[09:54] <argument> munsa, it may or may not be me
[09:54] <holycow> *hmm*
[09:54] <holycow> what is the command to modify a user and let you add them to another group?
[09:54] <argument> holy_cow, adduser
[09:54] <holycow> no that adds a user
[09:54] <erUSUL> holycow: System>Admin>users
[09:54] <holycow> doesn't modify an existy user
[09:54] <holy_cow> lol
[09:54] <munsa> argument it keeps telling me " Could not open/initalize audio device -> no sound.
[09:55] <ardchoille> My Window Maker menu is broken and I don't know the correct syntax to create a new one.
[09:55] <holycow> erUSUL, no, command line, thank you
[09:55] <argument> holycow, good thing you're telling me what you don't know, because then you might learn something
[09:55] <bean-oh> holycow, usermod
[09:55] <argument> holycow, adduser thisuser thisgroup
[09:55] <holycow> bean-oh, ah! thank you thats the one :)
[09:55] <argument> holycow, tada
[09:55] <holycow> argument, cool i'll try that i thought htat was for creating users only
[09:55] <bean-oh> usermod <user> -G groupnames
[09:55] <JackMacOKC> holycow: man usermod
[09:55] <holycow> *nod* right
[09:56] <argument> ardchoille, that's called read the manual if I'm not mistaken
[09:56] <JackMacOKC> whoops..guess i was a day late on that response
[09:56] <argument> ardchoille, though i can't tell you where it is cuz i don't use WM
[09:56] <papetowe> "sudo kwrite /etc/iftab" it says kwrite: command not found
[09:57] <Pirate-King> anybody here try xubuntu?
[09:57] <argument> papetowe, you need gksudo for that anyway
[09:57] <argument> papetowe, or whatever the kde equivalent of gksudo is
[09:57] <erUSUL> papetowe: use gksudo
[09:57] <papetowe> ok
[09:57] <frfx> what is the name of the standard pdf reader in ubuntu
[09:57] <papetowe> thanks
[09:57] <erUSUL> frfx: evince
[09:57] <erUSUL> frfx: but i use acroread myself
[09:57] <papetowe> it still says command not found
[09:57] <tjb891> does gnome bittornet work?
[09:58] <ardchoille> argument: I have read the manual and looked for the menus in the system, can'[t find a fix
[09:58] <frfx> erUSUL: thanks..why acroread?
[09:58] <marshall_> tjb891:  it hasnt been great for me
[09:58] <argument> ardchoille, why wmaker by the way? why not XFCE or something uhhh, better?
[09:58] <marshall_> does anybody know of any gift clients working?
[09:58] <phatmonkey> is the dud X server still in the repositories? is it safe to upgrade?
[09:58] <Mr0bvious> ardchoille: E17 :p
[09:58] <argument> ardchoille, ever tried fluxbox? openbox? fvwm?
[09:58] <tjb891> azarous is being wierd so im trying it but does it need to be configured, it dosen't even have a optionstab?
[09:58] <argument> ewwww, e17 is soooo beta
[09:58] <ardchoille> argument: Because I like wmaker.
[09:58] <erUSUL> frfx: well, is quicker and has more features IMHO
[09:59] <Mr0bvious> argument: But so usable :D
[09:59] <munsa> Can someone please help me with an Mplayer Problem I keep getting this error
[09:59] <argument> ummm, yeah ok then
[09:59] <munsa> argument it keeps telling me " Could not open/initalize audio device -> no sound.
[09:59] <marocnux> how do i install E17
[09:59] <papetowe> gksudo still says command not found
[09:59] <argument> munsa, what sound card do you have
[09:59] <Mr0bvious> !e17
[09:59] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[10:00] <munsa> argument I dunno, im on a dell lappy
[10:00] <munsa> It was working before
[10:00] <erUSUL> papetowe: do you have kwrite instaled? try kate instead
[10:00] <munsa> no idea why its not working now
[10:00] <argument> munsa, then you've got an i810 chipset (i can almost guarantee it)
[10:00] <erUSUL> !sound > munsa
[10:00] <munsa> argument, ok, how can i fix this problem?
[10:00] <marshall_> tjb891:  you have to go Tools> Options
[10:00] <Bigsky> munsa: run lspci from the shell
[10:00] <Mr0bvious> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=520.0 <-build E17 for Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[10:00] <argument> munsa, dunno... the i810 (if that's what you have) has known issues and bugs as admitted by intel themselves
[10:00] <Mr0bvious> Even tho that's for KUbuntu, it still works.
[10:01] <papetowe> gksudo says command not found
[10:01] <marshall_> MrObvious:  whats good about e17?
[10:01] <papetowe> hmm
[10:01] <argument> papetowe, so use gedit
[10:01] <kapace> someone plzz help me install jave
[10:01] <tjb891> there is no tools tab in gnome bittorent
[10:01] <munsa> argument intel ICH6
[10:01] <kapace> *java
[10:01] <sean> guys
[10:01] <sean> how do i rm -rf / on windows
[10:01] <sean> ???
[10:01] <Mr0bvious> marshall_: Fast, pretty, very usable, very very pretty
[10:01] <marshall_> tjb891:  oh i thought you meant azureus
[10:01] <marshall_> MrObvious:  prettier than gnome with compiz?
[10:01] <tjb891> i usually use that but its not liking me but thx anyway
[10:01] <munsa> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FR W (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[10:01] <sean> er
[10:01] <sean> wrong channel
[10:02] <Mr0bvious> marshall_: Not sure, but I'd guess so as E17 is very sexy, and it is much faster and less bloated.
[10:02] <bean-oh> sean, format c:   HA!
[10:02] <sean> lol
[10:02] <sean> yeah
[10:02] <sean> i meant to troll some other channl
[10:02] <bbrazil> bean-oh: that's isn't equivilent
[10:03] <kapace> how to install java??
[10:03] <Bigsky> munsa: run lsmod from the shell and see if AC'97 is loaded and if its being used
[10:03] <sean> k
[10:03] <sean> anyways
[10:03] <sean> how do i uninstall XGL
[10:03] <sean> it's extremely buggy when i don't use it
[10:03] <ppcblaster> need help
[10:03] <sean> :o
[10:03] <kapace> can you hear me
[10:03] <kapace> ?
[10:03] <sean> no
[10:03] <bbrazil> sean: actually it's del /s C: (dangerous command)
[10:03] <bean-oh> bbrazil, was joking
[10:03] <Bigsky> kapace: Echo....
[10:03] <munsa> Bigsky : W (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[10:03] <kapace> ?
[10:04] <bbrazil> bean-oh: please ensure your jokes are technically correct :)
[10:04] <bean-oh> bbrazil, aye cap'n
[10:04] <ppcblaster> need help loging in with ubuntu alt-386
[10:04] <Bigsky> munsa: did you just recently install mplayer ?
[10:04] <munsa> Bigsky about 10 minutes ago
[10:05] <sean> ok so
[10:05] <sean> who wants to help me uninstall XGL
[10:05] <sean> lol
[10:05] <ppcblaster> need help loging in with ubuntu alt-386
[10:05] <Bigsky> munsa: Ok so way mplayer working before or were you saying that sound was working in general just not with mplayer?
[10:05] <Bigsky> munsa: *was
[10:05] <ppcblaster> need help loging in with ubuntu alt-386
[10:05] <munsa> Bigsky, I tested mplayer after it installed with a video file I have and it worked fine
[10:06] <munsa> Bigsky you think that it would give me that error if there is another program using the sound card?
[10:06] <TokenBad> I just tried to restart proftpd...and it told me invalid command....this is the command used: sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/proftpd restart  Any ideas?
[10:07] <dougsko> MrObvious: is e17 the same thing as DR17, i know the DR is for developmentel release
[10:07] <ppcblaster> need help logging in with ubuntu alt-386 what is the password? hostname ubunta, password I put in twice, username ?? I was never ask for a username
[10:07] <Bigsky> munsa: hmmm. Do you use alsa as your sound server?
[10:07] <munsa> bigsky i dont know
[10:07] <holycow> *ooo*
[10:08] <holycow> okay i have a fresh install, should i accept the xorg packages?  i read about xorg being crashy in th elatest updates ... thats resolved i presume?
[10:08] <pattyD> Any help would be appreciated, I updated to daper drake and now gnome is hosed, I believe it has to do w/ certian packages not getting updated... "apt-get dist-upgrade" shows many packages "kept back" .... what can I do?
[10:08] <Bigsky> munsa: So what kind of file .. IE mpeg .mp3 worked before and the one you tried that didn't work. was that differnet type of file?
[10:09] <munsa> was an avi file i think
[10:09] <munsa> yea it was different
[10:09] <Bigsky> munsa: the one that worked was an avi file and the one that didn't was?
[10:09] <papetowe> something works, then something else doesnt work
[10:09] <tnzr> TokenBad: did you check to see if /etc/init.d/proftpd exists?
[10:09] <munsa> avi
[10:09] <abarbaccia> hello all - i have an AVI file which i need to shrink to 100MB (its currently 330) - what tool should I use?
[10:09] <gpm> Hey all. I'm running the latest (1.0.8762) Nvidia driver. Everything works great but when I run apps in Wine or Cedega, I see no fonts. I read somewhere that this is because the Nvidia driver has some kind of API mismatch with the xorg code (this was in the Ubuntu forums). Is this true? Do I just use the nv driver when using Wine until there's a fix? Thanks in advance.
[10:09] <papetowe> this isnt worth the time, im just switching distros
[10:10] <gpm> abarbaccia: ffmpeg, mencoder?
[10:10] <sethk> papetowe, if you can't use this one, I doubt you'll be able to use any others either
[10:10] <TokenBad> tbzr yes it does
[10:10] <abarbaccia> gpm: any advice what quality or format I should choose?
[10:11] <Quad_342> I just installed ubuntu and I can't get my resolution higher than 640x480 (Ati x800pro and BenQ lcd monitor)
[10:11] <sethk> papetowe, by the way, you don't need to use sudo with ubuntu, that's a myth
[10:11] <Bigsky> munsa: Simply try loggin out and then loggin back in again. Then try and 1st play the file the worked originally?
[10:11] <munsa> Bigsky its the same file
[10:11] <gpm> abarbaccia: unfortunately i'm not really skilled in using either..
[10:11] <munsa> it worked
[10:11] <sethk> papetowe, you can use exactly the same admin methods as any other distro
[10:11] <munsa> now its not working
[10:11] <papetowe> if i dont use sudo then it wont let me do anything
[10:11] <papetowe> it says permession dneied
[10:11] <tnzr> TokenBad: try /etc/init.d/proftpd stop && /etc/init.d/proftpd start ?
[10:11] <papetowe> denied
[10:11] <sethk> papetowe, set the root password, and do su, which is what other distros do
[10:11] <Quad_342> does anybody know how I can fix my resolution? (ati x800pro and standard benq monitor)
[10:11] <sethk> papetowe, I mention that because people think that ubuntu has to be handled differently
[10:11] <cr3> how can I create an internal apt repository for a bunch of machines?
[10:12] <pattyD> any idea how to upgrade packages that "apt-get dist-upgrade" keeps back? It is completely hosing my upgrade
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > Quad_342
[10:12] <sethk> papetowe, all non-toy operating systems have admin vs. regular users, even windows has it
[10:12] <nikin> hy i try to setup ssh... the server is working and i can conect wine from lan... but not over van. i have a router with firewall and i have set Allow ssh WAN,*LAN,192.168.0.116 TCP,22
[10:12] <zypher> hello
[10:12] <papetowe> i just started linux today, no idea how to setup the root password
[10:12] <nikin> i mean not over WAN
[10:12] <sethk> papetowe, sudo passwd
[10:12] <nikin> sry
[10:12] <tf4> does a treo 700p work with ubuntu
[10:13] <Bigsky> munsa: Hmmmmm. Your going to need to talk to a snd expert here. Its working then not working.. I would try dling a different file like an .mpeg and see if that does the same thing.
[10:13] <sethk> papetowe, I have to go for a bit, but be patient, you can handle it if you invest a bit of time.
[10:13] <papetowe> SIOGIFFLAGS error: No such deive --- this means my driver isnt installed im guessing
[10:13] <munsa> whats the Mplayer ubuntu file?
[10:13] <sethk> papetowe, likely, yes
[10:13] <Bigsky> munsa: I dont' understand..
[10:13] <bean-oh> anyone using NetworkManager on a laptop? I can't seem to get it to find/use my Wireless card.
[10:13] <papetowe> hmm, i've read and followed 4 diffrent guides..
[10:13] <munsa> sorry
[10:13] <munsa> hahah
[10:13] <sethk> papetowe, what are you configuring?
[10:13] <munsa> the mplayer ubuntu channel
[10:14] <papetowe> wireless card
[10:14] <munsa> sorry
[10:14] <munsa> lol
[10:14] <sethk> papetowe, which one?
[10:14] <nikin> munsa: allow all repos then it will be mplayer
[10:14] <papetowe> i have the driver downloaded
[10:14] <sethk> papetowe, which driver, downloaded from where?
[10:14] <munsa> nikin i dont understand
[10:14] <pattyD> is this the correct channel for general ubuntu support?
[10:14] <papetowe> from some site of google
[10:14] <sean> k
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: yes
[10:14] <papetowe> maybe thats my problem
[10:14] <sethk> pattyD, yes
[10:14] <sean> someone tell me how to uninstall XGL
[10:14] <sean> google fails !_!
[10:14] <papetowe> hold on ill find it
[10:14] <pattyD> Any help would be appreciated, I updated to daper drake and now gnome is hosed, I believe it has to do w/ certian packages not getting updated... "apt-get dist-upgrade" shows many packages "kept back" .... what can I do?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> sean: sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xgl
[10:15] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anybody know how I can get my menu to look like this: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/689_or/24.png ?
[10:15] <jason_34549> hi can anyone tell me how to make /mnt/partition my home directory, please?
[10:15] <Bigsky> munsa: Just try a different file. All I'm trying to do is help you isolate if the problem is with the file itself or with mplayer. If you can play other files successfully then the file is the problem.
[10:15] <tnzr> jason_34549: change it in/etc/passwd
[10:15] <munsa> Bigsky no files have sound now
[10:15] <munsa> with mplayer
[10:15] <jason_34549> tnzr: thanks I'll try it now
[10:16] <tnzr> jason_34549: change /home/<your username> to /mnt/partition or wahteever
[10:16] <munsa> what is the mplayer channel?
[10:16] <munsa> !mplayer
[10:16] <jason_34549> tnzr: thanks :)
[10:16] <Bigsky> munsa: you'll have to google it.
[10:16] <Phoul> Can someone tell me how to set the title bar on xterm?
[10:16] <sethk> tnzr, you shouldn't edit /etc/passwd.  use usermod
[10:16] <munsa> there is a channel here ubuntu-mplayer or something i forget
[10:17] <pattyD> any idea how to upgrade packages that "apt-get dist-upgrade" keeps back? It is completely hosing my upgrade
[10:17] <tnzr> jason_34549: no prob.. login from another cojnsole/terminal to test it
[10:17] <tnzr> console*
[10:17] <papetowe> sethk i pmed you
[10:17] <tnzr> jason_34549: make sure it works ok otherwise logging in could be a prob
[10:17] <Phoul> Anyone know?
[10:17] <teicah> phoul http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20set%20the%20title%20bar%20on%20xterm%3F
[10:18] <csnoop> Hi! WifiDocs/WPAHowTo on help.ubuntu.com says I should have a /etc/default/wpasupplicant which I have not (on Dapper). Am I missing something?
[10:18] <jason_34549> tnzr: don't worry I have livecds if anything goes wrong :)
[10:18] <sethk> papetowe, I don't see it.  Are you registered?  Your nic on freenode?
[10:18] <Bigsky> munsa: type /list
[10:18] <MrFeetio> i want to know how to open a .dmg file or covert it to something else like .bin
[10:18] <papetowe> papetowe
[10:18] <sethk> papetowe, as I said I have to go for a bit, but I'll be happy to help you later, or I'm sure other people here can help you now.
[10:18] <Bigsky> munsa: in your chat window. That will bring up all the channels
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Kragnerac: http://angelicpenguins.blogspot.com/2006/07/sled-menu-for-ubuntu-uslab-now-in-repo_14.html
[10:18] <papetowe> ok
[10:18] <papetowe> im going to, tired of messing with this
[10:18] <etnt> Hi folks, can I add a new repository to use in Synaptic
[10:19] <bean-oh> etnt, yes
[10:20] <csnoop> What should I check to make sure wpasupplicant starts automatically on (re)boot
[10:20] <bean-oh> anyone using NetworkManager?
[10:21] <etnt> I tried to find out from the Settings/Repositories menu
[10:22] <bruenig> etnt, what is the repository you want to add?
[10:23] <etnt> To install Erlang, which should exist on a repository here: http://neutronic.mine.nu/ubuntu-breezy
[10:23] <bruenig> etnt, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:24] <bruenig> etnt, when that opens paste that repository in the file wherever you want
[10:24] <csnoop> What should I check to make sure wpasupplicant starts automatically on (re)boot?
[10:24] <jmain> In evolution 2.6 where do you set to auto add replied to email to contacts?
[10:24] <bruenig> etnt, then do sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install Erlang
[10:24] <TokenBad> ok question...I set up the proftpd.conf file to show his public address...but when restart it says 127.0.0.1 is the ip that is going to the public ip...and it should be different than 127.0.0.1...how set that?
[10:24] <bruenig> assuming Erlang is the name of the package, generally packages are all undercase. so it would be sudo apt-get install erlang. Or you can open up synaptic and search for it
[10:26] <etnt> I tried to search for erlang but nothing was found (erlang is a prog.lang)
[10:26] <bruenig> etnt, if that is the correct repo, then that will work
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> etnt: search in packages.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <bean-oh> etnt, i would try an update your repositories before searching
[10:27] <ivan> !ati
[10:27] <bruenig> I told him to update
[10:27] <ivan> ?ati
[10:27] <erpo> I want to set up a CUPS printer that will create ps or pdf files instead of printing to a device. How do I do this?
[10:28] <bruenig> on packages.ubuntu.com it only has dapper packages. Not sure if that matters or not probably doesn't
[10:28] <evil_cow> who can help me to setup nvidia driver on lapto[
[10:28] <evil_cow> p
[10:28] <evil_cow> ?
[10:28] <evil_cow> pls
[10:28] <evil_cow> give me some working howto
[10:29] <bruenig> !enter
[10:29] <bruenig> ubotu is down?
[10:29] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[10:29] <erUSUL> evil_cow:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:30] <csnoop> The forums seem to be down indeed bruenig
[10:30] <fo0b4er> why is nobody responding in #xubuntu ?
[10:30] <bruenig> well ubotu and forums have nothing really to do with each other.
[10:30] <fo0b4er> oh well
[10:30] <bruenig> or so I don't think
[10:30] <TokenBad> ok question...I set up the proftpd.conf file to show his public address...but when restart it says 127.0.0.1 is the ip that is going to the public ip...and it should be different than 127.0.0.1...how set that?
[10:30] <evil_cow> erUSUL, thanks i'll try it
[10:30] <bruenig> the forums worked for me
[10:30] <AcuraX> Does ubuntu run ok with ntfs-3g?
[10:31] <fo0b4er> i think so
[10:31] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad, you need to enable masquerading
[10:31] <AcuraX> I think im going to try out feather and just build into the ubuntu apt sources..
[10:31] <AcuraX> Well change my sources to ubuntu
[10:32] <aluno__> SEU CABEA DE BILA
[10:32] <AcuraX> and apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[10:32] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC,  I set that in the proftpd.conf...but it shows 127.0.0.1 instead of the internal ip
[10:32] <aluno__> YOU ARE SPEAK BRAZILIAN?
[10:32] <fo0b4er> lol
[10:32] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: 127.0.0.1 is your internal ip, its not going to show your 192 or other private ip unless thats what you setup as your masquerading address
[10:33] <jmain> There used to be an option in evolution to add contacts to your address book automatically.  But in 2.6 It seems to be missing.
[10:33] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC,  but what saying is the ip that goes to his machine is a 192.whatever address...and he needs the 192.whatever to point to his public ip
[10:33] <aluno__> YOU ARE ESPEAK BRAZILIAN
[10:34] <TokenBad> show when people ftp in..it goes to the right machine
[10:34] <ompaul> !br
[10:34] <etnt> ok I found erlang. it turned out I had to tick some of the existing repositories (I'm slowly getting the hang of Ubuntu) Thanx !
[10:34] <AcuraX> Can someone show me tha apt-get source list for ubuntu?
[10:34] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: i understand what you're saying, but thats not what you want. its correct for proftpd to say 127.0.0.1 masquerading as xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[10:34] <bruenig> AcuraX, google source-o-matic
[10:34] <Warbo> !easysource
[10:34] <ompaul> !easysource > AcuraX
[10:34] <bruenig> ubotu = down
[10:35] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC, then why will it still not connect
[10:35] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: as long as that xxx ip is the one your public ip is, you're good.
[10:35] <Warbo> Nooo! Ubotu! He was so young
[10:35] <canute> Hi there. A friend of mine let me borrow an Nvidia Graphics card, however, I have already installed drivers for my ATI. Will that be a problem?
[10:35] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: have you forwarded port 21 on your local router?
[10:35] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC, yes
[10:35] <bruenig> i can only assume so canute
[10:35] <StephenL> How do you run commands at login?
[10:35] <ompaul> !easysource > AcuraX
[10:35] <Warbo> canute: Installing proprietary nvidia drivers will conflict with proprietary ATI drivers
[10:35] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: you might also check to ensure your isp does not block port 21, many do
[10:35] <bruenig> ompaul, he is down
[10:35] <ompaul> ubotu (n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu) has joined #ubuntu
[10:36] <canute> how can I then unintall ATI's drivers?
[10:36] <Warbo> StephenL: System>Preferences>Session>Startup Programs
[10:36] <bruenig> !can it be
[10:36] <fo0b4er> NEED HELP HERE:  At shutdown I do not see the splash screen until the last ~5 sec. Any ideas?
[10:36] <bruenig> !it does not be
[10:36] <StephenL> Ahh...Thanks!
[10:36] <ompaul> !test
[10:36] <Warbo> canute: Just install nvidia's and the ATI ones will be removed
[10:36] <bruenig> !dang
[10:36] <ompaul> bruenig, let me find Mr S the puppet master for the bot
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu) has joined #ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can it be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <canute> Well, so which order do I do it in? Install Nvidia drivers first, shutdown, change cards and hope for gods sake it works?
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it does not be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <ubotu> Failed.
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <bruenig> !nvidia
[10:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:38] <Warbo> I really think that message should be changed. What about the Free drivers?
[10:38] <root> hi all..
[10:38] <bruenig> there is something you can put to suggest a change
[10:38] <sean> can anyone help me with Conky or TORSMO?
[10:38] <erUSUL> sean: what's the problem?
[10:38] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: you get it working?
[10:38] <sean> okay
[10:38] <sean> with TORSMO
[10:38] <bruenig> i don't know what it is but it has to do with some ubotu command if you can call it a command
[10:38] <sean> when i tried to ./configure it
[10:39] <thegve> root: Hope you didn't get this name because you run xchat as root....
[10:39] <sean> it said checking for X... no
[10:39] <sean> Sorry, X is very much needed
[10:39] <erUSUL> sean: i use conky myself
[10:39] <sean> and Conky, it had mad errors
[10:39] <sean> 1 sec
[10:39] <root> i have a issue.. i updated. and now i cant get into X again.. i only get a white screen
[10:39] <Warbo> I have written a page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver which is the one I use
[10:39] <erUSUL> sean: from the repos
[10:39] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix
[10:39] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[10:39] <sean> http://71.139.0.188:23456/conky
[10:39] <tuxar> Hello, is there any problem if I want to run Kontact in Ubuntu (Gnome) distro ?
[10:39] <sean> that's what conky said
[10:39] <acojlo> is it possible to user newer gnome (2.8)?
[10:39] <sean> and before that
[10:39] <sean> i did apt-get install conky
[10:39] <bruenig> tuxar, no
[10:39] <petar12>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:39] <bruenig> !info kontact
[10:39] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1547 kB, installed size 3300 kB
[10:40] <bruenig> tuxar, just do sudo apt-get install kontact
[10:40] <tuxar> bruenig, thanks
[10:40] <fo0b4er> how can I get back the splash screen at shutdown?
[10:41] <fo0b4er> all I see is text
[10:41] <erUSUL> sean: i dled a conkyrc from its website and have not had any problem whatsoever... i do not know what can be wrong
[10:41] <Bagoor> (Offtopic) Is there anyone from austria here ?
[10:41] <sean> k
[10:41] <sean> i'll download it from the website
[10:41] <bruenig> fo0b4er, I wonder how to lose the splash screen at shutdown
[10:41] <sean> it might just be the repos that's wrong
[10:41] <bruenig> and startup
[10:41] <fo0b4er> i still have it at startup
[10:42] <fo0b4er> it only shows it at shutdown sometimes
[10:42] <petar12> Hi, I have a question about my formatting my external hard drive.  I would like to be able to use it when in ubuntu and windows xp, however I will be using files that are larger than 4gb.  I know that kicks out fat32, so I was wondering what I should go with.
[10:42] <bruenig> it is so poorly done. I would rather have full text instead of a half assed splash screen
[10:42] <bruenig> poorly done when compared to fedora and others
[10:42] <fo0b4er> well i like things to look pretty (and text is not)
[10:42] <Bagoor> petar12, no way ! you can use NTFS, also for write access, but it's not safe
[10:42] <Warbo> petar12: Linux has ntfs3g (I think it's called) for apparently quite safe NTFS writing, whilst Windows has fs-driver for reading and writing ext2/3
[10:42] <sean> root did you do what i said?
[10:43] <fo0b4er> should I re-install usplash?
[10:43] <bruenig> petar12, go with ext3 and install drivers on xp for ext3
[10:43] <engla> petar12: sounds like ext3 drivers for windows can solve it
[10:43] <ompaul> bruenig, check out update-alternatives - it is not normal that you have that setup it should be there all the time
[10:43] <root> hey.. i got 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[10:43] <root> sean: what? its hard to follow the chat. im in irssi in recovery mode
[10:43] <bruenig> ompaul, i think you are refering to fo0be4r
[10:43] <sean> oh
[10:43] <petar12> I was planning on going with ext3, I just wanted to make sure that the windows support is there.  I have seen some drivers but I wanted to ask others about their opinions.
[10:43] <fo0b4er> what?
[10:43] <ompaul> bruenig, so I should be
[10:43] <wikijeff> Any idea why all of a sudden my touchpad isn't working? I can't move the mouse or anything. It happened after the entire system froze when I was trying to activate a wireless interface.
[10:44] <ompaul> fo0b4er, check out update-alternatives - it is not normal that you have that setup it should be there all the time
[10:44] <petar12> So the ext3 drivers for xp are stable?
[10:44] <Warbo> wikijeff: What type of card?
[10:44] <bruenig> petar12, yes
[10:44] <fo0b4er> ompaul, ok ill try that
[10:44] <root> i got 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 but still X dosent start up! anyone know why?
[10:44] <wikijeff> Warbo: wireless card? that works fine now, it's the touchpad that isn't responding
[10:44] <ompaul> petar12, for values of stable under windows
[10:45] <Warbo> wikijeff: Oh, just that my Wifi card crashes the system
[10:45] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC, no
[10:45] <wikijeff> Warbo, I think this time it was just a fluke
[10:45] <root> brbr
[10:45] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: why dont you pastebin your proftpd.conf for me
[10:45] <xxpor> bah the software updater fuxed my compiz
[10:45] <Warbo> wikijeff: Well ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X, and it is X hat deals with the pointing devices
[10:45] <Warbo> *that
[10:46] <wikijeff> Warbo, tried that
[10:46] <don_jr> always plenty of people here eh?
[10:46] <petar12> Alright I will format it as ext3.  Thanks for your help guys.  Really appreciated.
[10:46] <Warbo> don_jr: I've never seen it with less than 700
[10:46] <Tonren> Hey guys, what do I do if the live CD hangs on Mounting root file system?
[10:47] <fo0b4er> bruening, no luck
[10:47] <don_jr> Okay, total newb to linux here, I'm installing ubuntu now.  Looking over the website for possibly gettingmy wireless card to work I've come to a cuple of questions
[10:47] <bruenig> fo0b4er, no luck? I never suggested any solutions
[10:47] <Warbo> !wifi
[10:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:47] <bruenig> i merely commented that I would love to have your problem
[10:47] <nbx909> is there an edgy room?
[10:47] <don_jr> I'll check that before asking anything here then, thank you very much
[10:47] <fo0b4er> bruenig, i know, but nothing is working
[10:47] <npodges> don_jr, what question
[10:48] <npodges> what command do you use to just download the source of a package, but not build it?
[10:48] <bruenig> nbx909, ubuntu+1
[10:48] <erUSUL> nbx909: #unbuntu+1
[10:48] <nbx909> ty
[10:48] <don_jr> what is nidswrapper and where can I find it within ubuntu? lol
[10:48] <bruenig> or yeah, with the #
[10:48] <longwave> npodges: apt-get source packagename
[10:48] <erUSUL> !ndiswrapper
[10:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:48] <JackMacOKC> npodges: sudo apt-get source package
[10:48] <npodges> longwave, thanks
[10:48] <ScheissNUssen> I have download aim it came with the filename 'aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb' and I tried to install it but it did not work
[10:48] <ScheissNUssen> how do i do so?
[10:48] <don_jr> Ubotu I've got the page up and I'm looking it over, thank you very much.
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I've got the page up and I'm looking it over, thank you very much. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <bruenig> !info ndiswrapper
[10:48] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[10:48] <erUSUL> !info aim
[10:48] <ubotu> Package aim does not exist in dapper
[10:49] <bruenig> aim?
[10:49] <Warbo> ndiswrapper allows use of certain Windows drivers for Wifi cards. I am not sure whether it is stable or not, but it is harder to set up than native drivers
[10:49] <ScheissNUssen> hmm
[10:49] <npodges> it's not that hard
[10:49] <don_jr> but I can get a package with ndiswrapper to put into dapper correct?
[10:49] <npodges> if you use the wiki from ubuntu, it's easy
[10:49] <ScheissNUssen> http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#deb2
[10:49] <longwave> if by aim you mean the aol IM client, you can use gaim instead, it's easier
[10:49] <ScheissNUssen> debian?
[10:49] <bruenig> following directions is always easy
[10:49] <ScheissNUssen> i dont like gaim though
[10:49] <bruenig> doesn't like gaim?
[10:49] <longwave> ah fair enough
[10:49] <npodges> gaim is great. scheissnussen, have you tried gaim2beta?
[10:49] <ScheissNUssen> no
[10:49] <marshall_> ScheissNUssen:  ya gaim is kind of lame for msn
[10:50] <JackMacOKC> gaim2beta sucks imo
[10:50] <ScheissNUssen> it doesnt have a direct connect button
[10:50] <marshall_> even gaim 2 beta 3.1 is lame
[10:50] <bruenig> I would go for gaim 3 beta, as going back to gaim 2 beta seems an odd choice
[10:50] <ScheissNUssen> for windwos
[10:50] <Warbo> Correction, MSN is kind of lame for GAIM :)
[10:50] <ScheissNUssen> I use that all the time for pics
[10:50] <bruenig> or rather gaim beta 3.0
[10:50] <marshall_> lol sure
[10:50] <wikijeff> Any idea why my ALPS touchpad isn't responding? movement or clicks.
[10:50] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21509
[10:50] <marshall_> gaim msn needs personal messages
[10:50] <marshall_> webcam and voice
[10:51] <don_jr> Can I get a package with ndiswrapper to install into dapper?
[10:51] <erUSUL> ScheissNUssen: well the deb you've dled is for ancient systems (Debian 2.1!!!) no wonder why it fails to install
[10:51] <marshall_> therefore gaim is lame for msn
[10:51] <bruenig> !info ndisgtk
[10:51] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[10:51] <ScheissNUssen> I downloaded the 3+
[10:51] <bruenig> it rhymed it must be true
[10:51] <marshall_> don_jr:  ndisgtk is pretty good
[10:51] <npodges> if you know how to compile from source, i recommend compiling ndiswrapper. the newest version is best
[10:52] <bruenig> use apt
[10:52] <don_jr> okay.  I"m a complete newb to the *nix system as a whole...so
[10:52] <wais> hi
[10:52] <wais> i turned off sound in movie player, and now i cant turn it on again
[10:52] <don_jr> I have no clue how to compile as of yet, but I think I could figure it out
[10:52] <marshall_> npodges:  it takes a long long time to compile things from source doesnt it?
[10:52] <wais> it turned it off for all applications, and putting sound back in movie player doesnt do anything :S
[10:52] <wais> anyone know if there is a central sound utility in ubuntu?
[10:52] <ScheissNUssen> eru: will the 3+ version install?
[10:52] <npodges> marshall_ no, if you know how, it takes about five minutes
[10:52] <krazykit> marshall_: only on a slow computer.  ndiswrapper takes less than 20 minutes on anything recent
[10:52] <marshall_> npodges:  ive opnly managed to compile one thing and it took like 2.5 hours
[10:52] <erUSUL> ScheissNUssen: post the output of dpkg -i *.deb in a pastebin maybe we can figure out why it fails
[10:53] <bruenig> don_jr, first you need to enable the universe repository, follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096, and then do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install ndisgtk from the terminal
[10:53] <gdb> it depends entirely on what's being compiled.
[10:53] <ScheissNUssen> dont know what you are talking about lol
[10:53] <marshall_> npodges:  ok
[10:53] <TokenBad> JackMacOKC, that help?
[10:53] <pradford> hi all. can anyone advise me on tv card configuration.
[10:53] <bean-oh> NetworkManager doesn't want to work. I get the applet up, select the network, and it displays in the hover-popup "attempting to connect to '(null)'"
[10:53] <ScheissNUssen> says this
[10:53] <ScheissNUssen> E: Couldn't find package homezaqaim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[10:53] <don_jr> heh, that's the problem, my laptop only has wireless I can't get it online at all.  I have to DL it on this computer and then copy it to disk and transfer to the laptop until I can get the wireless working
[10:54] <npodges> what laptop is it don_jr, and do you know the wireless card?
[10:54] <bean-oh> it looks like it finds the ESSID, but doesn't run dhclient
[10:54] <bruenig> don_jr, that is a problem
[10:54] <npodges> don_jr, what laptop doesnt have an ethernet port?
[10:54] <bruenig> because even if  you got ndisgtk over, It has dependencies that wouldn't be satisfied. You could do sudo apt-get -d install ndisgtk, then move the packages over
[10:55] <bruenig> they will be located in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:55] <don_jr> it's a Dell Latitude, older version PII 500 mghz processor and the card is a Belkin 54g wireless pcimci(or what ever) card
[10:55] <bruenig> make sure you have them all including the dependencies
[10:55] <erUSUL> ScheissNUssen: post the output of dpkg -i aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb in a pastebin maybe we can figure out why it fails
[10:56] <don_jr> man, things move too fast in here...heh
[10:56] <bruenig> that is what scroll is for
[10:57] <pradford> hi all. has anyone got a pctv rave card working in ubuntu? I have video but noise as sound.
[10:57] <don_jr> yeah... anyways.  I'd have to get an external ethernet card.
[10:57] <bruenig> probably a good idea
[10:57] <bruenig> I couldn't stand having a laptop without an ethernet connection too
[10:58] <don_jr> doesn't bother me, wireless has done me just fine up till I decided to try *nix systems
[10:59] <npodges> dont pick on *nix systems, it's not their fault xD
[10:59] <don_jr> Okay, let's try and siplify things a bit more.  Is there any wireless cards that will be compatible wiht Ubuntu alone?
[10:59] <don_jr> I'm not, just saying I've never had a problem till then.  I"m anxious to see how it works out
[10:59] <holycow> don_jr, lots
[11:00] <don_jr> name a couple? lol
[11:00] <holycow> at this point in time you have a very good chance of 'just picking sometihng up' at the store and working
[11:00] <don_jr> belkin doesn't
[11:00] <npodges> broadcom tends not to
[11:00] <holycow> i just came from the store and bought a random dling pcmcia wireless card that work out of the box
[11:00] <don_jr> or not the one I have...lol
[11:00] <holycow> dwl-g630 for example
[11:00] <don_jr> okay dlink
[11:00] <don_jr> great
[11:00] <holycow> no not dlink
[11:00] <boodle> anyone solve python2.4-minimal upgrade probs in edgy?
[11:01] <holycow> that dlink model
[11:01] <don_jr> dwl is a dlink model
[11:01] <don_jr> right
[11:01] <holycow> they do use different chipsets
[11:01] <mistraal> does anyone know how to change the docroot directory for SuExec on Apache2?
[11:01] <don_jr> I'll read on the box if it's compatible with *nix or not
[11:01] <linescanner> don_jr I got a netgear wg511 running on this one
[11:01] <holycow> there is a page out there that lists all the wireless cards supported tho
[11:01] <holycow> google the wiki
[11:01] <don_jr> and these are cards that would, in theory, just get plugged in, restart the computer and work?
[11:02] <holycow> not in theory
[11:02] <Tonren> Anyone know how to solve if the live CD hangs on "Mounting root file system..."?
[11:02] <holycow> ubuntu uses the debian kernel ... or at least their style of build
[11:02] <holycow> meaning everything is a module
[11:02] <holycow> plug a device in, if its supported it just works
[11:02] <don_jr> okay, what's that mean?
[11:02] <holycow> that goes for everything
[11:02] <don_jr> great
[11:02] <linescanner> don_jr: Netgear just worked
[11:02] <don_jr> I'll look for one of those 2 models then
[11:02] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: sorry, just now getting around to reading it
[11:02] <don_jr> I've wrote them down...now to get it ti friggin install.....lol
[11:02] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: give me a few to look it over and compare to mine
[11:03] <don_jr> it's running on live CD mode right now, and it's so darn slow I can't seem to click the 'install' button to make it permanent.
[11:03] <don_jr> unless it's installing and not telling me? lol
[11:03] <Stormx2> monster kill!
[11:03] <Seveas> spllit splat
[11:03] <npodges> hah
[11:03] <npodges> it wasnt me!
[11:04] <anna> greetings
[11:04] <neuro_> mmm, splittastic
[11:04] <JoseStefan> who tripped over the network cable?
[11:04] <anna> lol
[11:04] <sean> is it me or are the ubuntu forums really slow..
[11:04] <wikijeff> Any idea why all of a sudden my ALPS touchpad stopped working??? It's been working for a long time so I don't understand it.
[11:04] <anna> dudes - i need partisioning help
[11:04] <npodges> anna, go ahead
[11:04] <JoseStefan> quote from ubuntuforums.org: "We are aware of the forums speed issues. We are currently waiting for canonical to approve hardware upgrades for our database server. We currently have no ETA."
[11:05] <McQueen> hi
[11:05] <anna> hthere's a new partition menu for installing 6.6.01
[11:05] <anna> i want to dualboot, i've got windows xp already on the laptop
[11:05] <npodges> anna, what's your question?
[11:05] <anna> i'm *thinking* option 1: Resize IDE1 Master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space
[11:05] <anna> is the righht option to do that
[11:05] <npodges> yes.
[11:06] <anna> but i want to make sure.
[11:06] <anna> and the docs don't cover this yet
[11:06] <npodges> yeah, that shoudl work fine
[11:06] <JoseStefan> anna, i suggest defragging first
[11:06] <pradford> hi all. anyone got a pctv rave card working under dapper drake?
[11:06] <npodges> yeah, anna defrag
[11:06] <JoseStefan> anna: and backups are always welcome
[11:06] <npodges> anna, dont bother backing up. you'll be fine
[11:06] <npodges> xD
[11:06] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: ok, i found some changes you should make
[11:06] <JoseStefan> ...they are always welcomed though
[11:06] <anna> yeah - well. i just wanna make sure i'm not gonna overwrite the windows partition with that option.
[11:07] <canute> How do i exit X and go to console?
[11:07] <erUSUL> anna: well, in a laptop there are no many more options usually they do not come with a secon harddrive XD
[11:07] <anna> i know not to use "erase entire disk"...
[11:07] <anna> there are 4 options
[11:07] <JoseStefan> canute, try ctrl+alt+f1 thru ctrl+alt+f6
[11:07] <npodges> ctrl alt + f1-f6, canute
[11:07] <erUSUL> canute: Crtl + Alt + F1
[11:07] <canute> hehe, ty
[11:07] <anna> 1: resize
[11:07] <anna> 2: erase
[11:07] <anna> 3: use largest continuous free space
[11:07] <anna> 4. manually edit partition table
[11:07] <npodges> resize.
[11:08] <erUSUL> canute: if you want to shut down X 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[11:08] <npodges> that will give you free space, then use that
[11:08] <tuxar> QTParted erase data when I resize a partition ?
[11:08] <anna> okay - the new partitioner is smart enough to do that safely now?
[11:08] <anna> kewl. thanks.
[11:08] <superjew9020> can someone help me everytime i try and install the package tzdata it always fails
[11:08] <npodges> yep, have fun, anna
[11:08] <JoseStefan> anna, defragging is always recommended, the windows defragger should do
[11:08] <npodges> superjew9020, with what error?
[11:08] <anna> yeah - i just did all that before i started installing
[11:09] <etnt> I have an old laptop wich doesn't have a CD-ROM. Is it possible to install Ubuntu from floppies ?
[11:09] <JackMacOKC> TokenBad: check the corrections at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21510
[11:09] <tuxar> superjew9020, youe trying to install that package ?
[11:09] <Kensey> anybody here know why invoking an X app on the remote side of an ssh connection would start the app locally on my side?
[11:09] <anna> etnt: does it have a usb port?
[11:09] <superjew9020> it just says failed to install package theres no info in the terminal
[11:09] <JoseStefan> etnt: btw, does it meat the other minimum system requirements, like RAM ?
[11:10] <etnt> yes (old machine though, can't boot from USB)
[11:10] <rabster> hey i have a problem with Flash Player 7, i am getting no sound, and I was wondering if anyone knows how to fix it
[11:10] <JoseStefan> meet*
[11:10] <superjew9020> and it says all the dependencies are satified
[11:10] <depi> Hi. I just upgraded my default 386 kernel to new linux-image-686 and now I havep roblem with nvidia, I tried to aptitude reinstall nvidia-legacy, but the X server dont starts, any suggestions?
[11:10] <Kensey> etnt: you could try making a boot floppy that would startup from the CDROM
[11:10] <tuxar> superjew9020, no idea, sory
[11:10] <slimmy> have anyone here ever converted a video to 3gp format? i just want to know how long it takes
[11:10] <etnt> I've been running gentoo on it for years until I had a disk crash the other day...
[11:10] <superjew9020> ok
[11:10] <erUSUL> Kensey: probably the display variable points to your machine (the app runs in the remote machine but shows the gui in yours, the magc of X)
[11:10] <superjew9020> thanks anyways
[11:10] <Kensey> depi: do you get a command prompt?
[11:10] <JoseStefan> depi, did you install the "restricted" package?
[11:11] <longwave> depi: did you need the restricted-modules package before? if so, have you installed the correct -686 version of those?
[11:11] <wikijeff> How come synaptic package manager can't see xorg-driver-synaptics, but apt-get can????
[11:11] <depi> JeseStefan: no
[11:11] <Kensey> erUSUL, yeah, that's what I want to happen, but what actually happens is instead of running there and displaying here, it runs here
[11:11] <jake1> i might need a different mirror for this Ubuntu thing
[11:11] <erUSUL> etnt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:11] <jake1> it's very slow downloading
[11:11] <JoseStefan> etnt: i think there is a network install option, check the ubuntu wiki
[11:12] <superjew9020> tuxar it gave me an error this time
[11:12] <Kensey> erUSUL: I can tell because the remote machine has an older version of Firefox and a different set of bookmarks
[11:12] <npodges> superjew9020, what error?
[11:12] <tuxar> superjew9020, what error ?
[11:12] <JamieBE> OK - Seriously, who didn't test the latest Xserver upgrade properly!?
[11:12] <pradford> anyone know if firefox 1.5.0.6 is available for ubuntu?
[11:12] <JoseStefan> depi, install linux-restricted-modules-686
[11:12] <superjew9020> im puttin it in the paste bin
[11:13] <JamieBE> It killed my Xserver - dead! - I assume everyone know about this>
[11:13] <Kensey> pradford: yep
[11:13] <tuxar> superjew9020, oh ! i'm too new for IRC, don't know how to read it
[11:13] <erUSUL> Kensey: !!?? you log in through ssh and run firefox from that login shell, but the firefox that runs is that of your machine?
[11:13] <npodges> yeah, jamiebe, just upgrade and it fixes it
[11:13] <Kensey> exactly, erUSUL
[11:13] <Kensey> it weirded me out too
[11:13] <JamieBE> I'm not upgrading again!
[11:13] <superjew9020> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21511
[11:13] <superjew9020> theres the link
[11:13] <JoseStefan> JamieBE, upgrading fixes the problem
[11:13] <JamieBE> Upgrading broke it
[11:13] <depi> JoseStefan: okay, and can you please tell me what they are for? thanks :)
[11:13] <Kensey> that's if I have firefox already runningf locally.  If I kill all local firefox windows, then it runs remotely
[11:14] <_rynz-> wtf is the purpose of alot of irc severs (diff networks) all doing netsplits, mass parts, mass joins, wtf is the cause and need for it
[11:14] <pradford> do you know how to make it update. mines stuck at 1.5.0.5
[11:14] <Kensey> rynz: it's not deliberate
[11:14] <npodges> sudo aptitude upgrade is that so hard, jamiebe?
[11:14] <JamieBE> It wasn't me to upgrade AGAIN - Won't that just break it again?
[11:14] <npodges> it fixes it though
[11:14] <npodges>  had that problemi
[11:14] <Kensey> Jamie: they fixed the pkgs
[11:14] <JamieBE> ahhhh
[11:14] <erUSUL> Kensey: it is weird, i do not know what can be wrong...
[11:14] <npodges> it wasn't broken long
[11:14] <JoseStefan> depi, that package includes the nvidia modules for your 686 kernel
[11:14] <superjew9020> tuxar u get it ??
[11:14] <erUSUL> etnt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:14] <Kensey> pradford: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:15] <JamieBE> sudo apt-get upgrade xserver-xorg-upgrade << ?
[11:15] <JamieBE> core*
[11:15] <jake1> oooooo there we go
[11:15] <npodges> just "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[11:15] <jake1> 700kbps
[11:15] <tuxar> superjew9020, I got it, perhaps you can make a force installation, it seems you already have the package or part of it installed
[11:15] <jake1> that is a lot better
[11:15] <JamieBE> How does it know what to upgrade?
[11:15] <pradford> ok cheers
[11:15] <npodges> it upgrades everything
[11:15] <JoseStefan> depi, it Provides: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8762, nvidia-kernel-1.0.7174
[11:15] <Kensey> upgrade just upgrades all upgradeable packages
[11:15] <npodges> do sudo aptitude update first though
[11:15] <jake1> no it doesn't npodges
[11:15] <jake1> it's magic that's how it knows
[11:15] <depi> JoseStefan: there are 2 kind of these modules: linux-restricted-modules-686 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15
[11:16] <npodges> jake1, what do you mean.
[11:16] <superjew9020> how do i do that???
[11:16] <Kensey> "Ubuntu: Powered by Magic!"
[11:16] <jake1> i'm kidding
[11:16] <npodges> haha
[11:16] <JamieBE> y
[11:16] <longwave> apt works like magic but really there is science behind it ;)
[11:16] <npodges> i know, but dont tell someone the wrong thing in order to kid.
[11:16] <npodges> he's looking for help, eh?
[11:16] <JoseStefan> depi, the 1st will always depend on the latest restricted modules, and thus is the recommended one
[11:16] <JamieBE> longwave - Please don't shatter my dreams. I know it's magic really anyway
[11:16] <Kensey> one of these days I'd like to see a graphical map of the package dependencies in Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, etc.
[11:16] <npodges> xD
[11:16] <pradford> Kensey: tells me that firefox is already the newest version.
[11:16] <npodges> kensey, make it. xD
[11:17] <Kensey> pradford: hm.  You using Dapper or an earlier release?
[11:17] <JamieBE> Is it true that Simply Mepis leeches off of Ubuntu repositories?
[11:17] <tuxar> superjew9020, here you have some options, run this command "dpkg --force-help"
[11:17] <depi> JoseStefan: okay so I go and install it
[11:17] <npodges> mepis since 6.0 is based on ubuntu
[11:17] <JamieBE> And if so - Why doesn'y Simply-Mepis just become part of the ubuntu community - Kubuntu/Edubuntu/Mempisbuntu.....
[11:17] <frfx> can someone post his /etc/apt/sources.list for me?
[11:17] <pradford> Kensey: dapper. could it be my repositories. Assuming that I'm getting stable and not unstable packages.
[11:17] <JoseStefan> JamieBE, to make sure you get the latest version do a: "sudo apt-get update" you can than do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" or install the specific package
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> JamieBE: mepis is to ubuntu as ubuntu is to debian
[11:18] <Kensey> pradford: have you updated your package listings?
[11:18] <npodges> mepisbuntu xD
[11:18] <Kensey> try sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <Kensey> MepUntu
[11:18] <JamieBE> JoseStefan - Workd a charm - ty
[11:18] <superjew9020> uhhh?? which one would u do
[11:18] <JamieBE> TheGateKeeper - Does that mean that is a watered down version of a more powerful OS?
[11:18] <superjew9020> im a newb and dont want to f@#$ everthing up
[11:19] <pradford> Kensey: yes sudo apt-get update command run to no effect.
[11:19] <Kensey> weird.
[11:19] <canute> Hi, I think I now successfully uninstalled the ati drivers, however, in my xorg.conf (reverted back to my original which came when it was installed) it still says a lot about ATI (http://pastebin.ca/146772), will this be automaticly changed when i swap to an Nvidia card, or is there some command or do I have to do it manually?
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> JamieBE: neither, it means that is what they use as their code base
[11:19] <scotte> ello
[11:19] <scotte> where can i get generic 56k conexant modem drivers for ubuntu
[11:20] <scotte> 6.06
[11:20] <tuxar> superjew9020, perhaps you can google the problem, I'm a newbie too, and not trying to mess up your system
[11:20] <npodges> you could reconfigure X when you get the new card "sudo dpkg -reconvigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <JamieBE> I see. Hey - Does anyone know how to fix Nautilus so that when you hit CTRL + F it uses the current path as the search root, rather than the ~ dir all the time!?
[11:20] <superjew9020> ok
[11:20] <Kensey> pradford: speaking of Firefox, anybody else puzzled why the Ubuntu icon for it is a generic globe by default?
[11:20] <tuxar> superjew9020, what i do ? I do /all option
[11:20] <canute> thanks npodges :)
[11:20] <JamieBE> Because that really winds me up!
[11:20] <superjew9020> i thought so
[11:21] <npodges> np, also, canute, you're going to want the nvidia restricted drivers too
[11:21] <erUSUL> canute: to reconf. X try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> JamieBE: in the case of ubuntu there is a two way traffic between ubuntu and debian, I believe ubuntu developers feed stuff back to debian
[11:21] <Warbo> Conexant charge for their drivers
[11:21] <Warbo> Unless you want to run at 4 kilobits (yes BITS) per second
[11:21] <tottinge> Does tomcat install okay for Ubuntu?  It seems to have some personality quirks when "apt-get install tomcat5" is used.  Odd ports, no anticpated tomcat startup page... ?
[11:21] <JamieBE> Im confused on both accounts there - Is there a way of doing it?
[11:21] <Kensey> hey pradford, I think I lied to ya :)
[11:22] <Kwalle> ich hab unter ubuntu nur 60Hz, wie kann man das beheben?
[11:22] <Kensey> I just looked and mine is 1.5.0.5
[11:22] <Warbo> !de
[11:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:22] <Kensey> I coulda sworn it was 1.5.0.6
[11:22] <thebanana> what's the preferred way to install python eggs in ubuntu?
[11:22] <npodges> mine is 1.5.0.6
[11:22] <thebanana> there isn't a deb for this package
[11:22] <npodges> but then again, it's also swiftfox
[11:22] <bruenig> swiftfox is great
[11:22] <depi> JoseStefan: thanks, it works :)
[11:22] <JoseStefan> depi, np
[11:23] <superjew9020> tuxar if i use all wat exactly do i type in the terminal
[11:23] <pradford> it's bizarre. I just removed 1.5.0.5 completely and did a complete re-install. Still 1.5.0.5
[11:23] <GUIPEnguin> question: I have yet to use Ubuntu...but when you install a package in Ubuntu, is this a srpm or an rpm?
[11:23] <jake1> well this is a lot better mirror
[11:23] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: It is a deb
[11:23] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:23] <cjones> how do you add the syntax coloring in the command line ?
[11:24] <jordan> hello everyone
[11:24] <tottinge> wow. what a busy place.
[11:24] <jordan> no doubt
[11:24] <e-lynx> hi!
[11:24] <jordan> 880 people
[11:24] <JoseStefan> i believe the 1.5.0.6 is basicly a fix for windows
[11:24] <pradford> aha. that makes sense.
[11:24] <pradford> windows got updated almost 2 weeks ago.
[11:24] <e-lynx> hi quack
[11:24] <Quack> hi
[11:24] <Kensey> yeah, the forums say the only fix in 1.5.0.6 has already been backported to Ubuntu's 1.5.0.5
[11:24] <npodges> cjones, what kind of coloring do you want? different than the default?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> 1.5.0.5 has the 1.5.0.6 fixes in it
[11:24] <tottinge> I need to find a more targeted place for questions on the tomcat5 package.  #tomcat seems to be pretty non-ubuntu.
[11:24] <GUIPEnguin> Warbo: is deb basicly an equivelent of an rpm package?
[11:24] <tuxar> superjew9020, sudo dpkg --force-all package.deb
[11:25] <JamieBE> Alreet guys thanks 4 all ur helpz
[11:25] <JamieBE> L8rs
[11:25] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: Maybe look on debian.org
[11:25] <pradford> great. GTK. Thanks all.
[11:25] <Kensey> GTK?
[11:25] <jvai> hey uall
[11:25] <LEMONed_> Hey, I'm a first time linux user trying to get ubuntu up and running, I have the livecd and it comes up with an option menu asking me what I want to do next so I select start or install ubuntu.... then it goes through a few loading scenes until it gets me to a screen with the text on the top that says "Loading kernel..... OK" some more text on the line and then I can type something below (no...
[11:25] <pradford> oops. good to know.
[11:25] <superjew9020> where do i type in the file name
[11:25] <LEMONed_> ...symbol what so ever) giving the impression that something has gone wrong... can someone now help me out?  Is this supposed to happen?
[11:25] <JoseStefan> here are the release notes: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.6.html
[11:25] <Kensey> ah :)
[11:25] <Warbo> GUIPEnguin: Ubuntu uses dpkg for low-level management of Deb packages, and controls that with APT. GUIs for APT include Synaptic and Adept
[11:25] <pradford> thanks JoseStefan.
[11:25] <tuxar> superjew9020, where I put "package.deb"
[11:26] <superjew9020> gotcha
[11:26] <Quack> I have a question, i'm a complete newbie when it comes to linux - i' switching from windows, hehe, well I need to know how to change the drivers for my Intel915 graphics
[11:26] <Quack> can anyone help?
[11:26] <mopflite> I have a non-ubuntu specific question - how can one change the default screen resolution of virtual console (i.e. non-X) sessions?
[11:26] <Warbo> LEMONed_: Looks like the CD isn't working...
[11:26] <tottinge> Quack: dpkg-reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:27] <Quack> thanks
[11:27] <Kensey> Quack: what exactly d'you need?  do you have a laptop and you're not getting full resolution from the 915 driver?
[11:27] <Warbo> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:27] <superjew9020> it says dpkg needs an action option
[11:27] <LEMONed_> Warbo: I htought maybe so... should I try to burn it again?
[11:27] <jordan> what was the xserver-core upgrade, it really improved performance
[11:27] <Quack> no im getting full res
[11:27] <tottinge> Quack: oops.. hold on.
[11:27] <Quack> but its slow
[11:27] <jordan> was this the one for modular x
[11:27] <tottinge> Quack: dpkg-reconfigure
[11:27] <pradford> just need to get my pinnacle tv card working and I'll be very happy. Is there anyone here who can offer guidance if I explain further.
[11:27] <cjones> npodges yeah i am a newb to linux but one of the servers hear at work usees gentoo and at the command prompt its colored and makes it easyer to read
[11:27] <tottinge> No space in that.
[11:27] <Quack> k, lemme try that
[11:27] <npster> How do I play Windows Media Player from JavaScript that is in some pages, Mozilla asks for a plugin (there is no such thin from Windows) is there anything alternate ?
[11:27] <Kensey> pradford: can it be used as a bt848?
[11:27] <tottinge> Changing resolution is a boot option.  I'd have to google it.
[11:28] <Warbo> LEMONed_: Check the md5sum of the download and compare it to the one on the site to see if the download is corrupt. If not then try burning it at a lower speed, I find 4x works well
[11:28] <pradford> boot messages and dmesg suggest it is using the bttv module. I have video but sound is a hizzing static noise.
[11:28] <LEMONed_> oh I remember having some problems with my burning speed before
[11:28] <Warbo> npster: Windows Media Player doesn't work in Linux. There are detectors built into it, and if it finds Linux then it refuses to run
[11:28] <holycow> npster, remove totem-gstreamer, install totem-xine then install tome-xine mozilla plugin
[11:29] <npster> ok
[11:30] <cjones> and what is a irc client that you carn run from the command prompt
[11:30] <bruenig> irssi
[11:30] <jvai> javascript is evil..
[11:30] <jvai> uuuch
[11:30] <javiolo> cjones bitchx
[11:31] <usul> my unbuntu wont boot anymore, need help plz
[11:31] <superjew9020> tuxar: it says dpkg needs an action option
[11:31] <cjones> javiolo can i just "apt-get install bitchx" ?
[11:31] <Kensey> pradford: I know my old Hauppage WinTV had a small line you had to connect between the audio-out on the card and line-in on your sound hardware
[11:32] <wikijeff> Anyone have an idea why I only see my keyboard and not my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices????
[11:32] <mopflite> npster: another alternative (which I use) - apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[11:32] <bruenig_> !xconfig > bruenig
[11:32] <Kensey> it was a pain if you already had something plugged into line-in :)
[11:32] <tuxar> superjew9020, sorry, I supouse it needs the "-i"  so : sudo dpkg -i "package.deb" --force-all
[11:32] <Quack> I'm having a bit of a problem, the drivers I downloaded from Intel wont work with the dkpg-reconfigure command
[11:32] <javiolo> cjones yes, I think so, check also irssi
[11:32] <cjones> javiolo irssi
[11:32] <Subhuman> Kensey, most tv cards do.
[11:33] <pradford> Kensey: that's right. the pinnacle pctv rave is the same. and from reading forum posts this is the main reason for the issue. A setting somewhere but so far no luck.
[11:33] <javiolo> irssi > cjones
[11:33] <usul> can someone assist me, I'm trying to boot into ubuntu and now I have a bluescreen
[11:33] <javiolo> irssi > javiolo
[11:33] <DanaG> What does the text-mode installer give over the livecd-mode installer?
[11:33] <bruenig> usul, a bsod?
[11:33] <javiolo> cjones < irssi
[11:33] <JoseStefan> usul, what does it say?
[11:33] <javiolo> javiolo < irssi
[11:33] <wikijeff> Anyone??
[11:33] <usul> bruenig what is bsod?
[11:33] <javiolo> agh
[11:33] <bruenig> blue screen of death
[11:33] <jvai> bsod! in ubuntu
[11:33] <jvai> ??
[11:33] <usul> JoseStefan it says the X server failed to start
[11:33] <javiolo> !bsod
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <bruenig> I am going to go buy a billboard for the bsod
[11:33] <bruenig> in ubuntu
[11:34] <jvai> take aq screenshot.. plleaz1
[11:34] <DanaG> Oh, that's GDM's thingy.
[11:34] <cjones> usul bsod = blue screen of  death , the default windows error log lol
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> DanaG: text installer will work on a low RAM machine for starters
[11:34] <JoseStefan> usul, you'll need to do a quick update, can you login thru the cli?
[11:34] <DanaG> Not an issue for me -- 1 gig.
[11:34] <usul> cjones yeah, except its on my ubuntu :(
[11:34] <npster> mopflite: Tanks that works but only sound, I want video too. That is the main idea that I was asking this for
[11:34] <bruenig> it is faster, no need to load livecd, just go right to installing it
[11:35] <ph8> Hey all, having what is hopefully a simple fglrx problem, just posted about it here if anyone can help -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1414404
[11:35] <bruenig> it is less buggy. Partitioning on that live cd is not always easy.
[11:35] <JoseStefan> usul, pm me
[11:35] <usul> JoseStefan, I can only have access to command line after Im through with the error messages
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> DanaG: alright for some, my little test box is only a P3 with 128Mb RAM :-)
[11:35] <cjones> usul sounds like a format problem but thats out of my realm
[11:35] <DanaG> Better than a p2 266 with XP and 256 RAM.
[11:36] <bruenig> hmm, don't see how that math works out
[11:36] <cjones> usul try "apt-get update"
[11:36] <JoseStefan> usul, after you are the at command line do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:36] <cjones> usul or try "apt-get update xserver"
[11:36] <bruenig> sudo pt-get update*
[11:36] <bruenig> sudo apt-get*
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> DanaG: I think the alternative cd also has packages on it, with the livecd you need internet
[11:36] <wikijeff> What channel can I get hardware support for Ubuntu in??
[11:36] <superjew9020> i did it but i got the original error again
[11:36] <bruenig> you don't need internet for the live cd
[11:37] <Subhuman> TheGateKeeper, all the alt. cd has is the text installer instead of gui installer, and you can do an expert installtion and automated installs.
[11:37] <bruenig> at least not for install
[11:37] <Quack> Can anyone help me on installing the graphics drivers from Intel's website? the dpkg-reconfigure command doesn't work for it
[11:37] <jvai> soo, the alternative cd, is like.. hoary.. but more dapper?
[11:37] <tuxar> superjew9020, don't know what else to do
[11:37] <BSG75> hi I can browse my network and access my windows machine and access my shares .. however when I try to mount my share to a folder I get: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //tweety/photos,
[11:37] <BSG75>        missing codepage or other error
[11:37] <BSG75>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:37] <BSG75>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:37] <cdubya> how do you add a png as a splash screen?
[11:37] <janez> hi
[11:37] <Subhuman> jvai, no more like breezy but dapper.
[11:37] <jvai> oooo
[11:37] <BSG75> anyone know what I need to do?
[11:37] <JoseStefan> !paste > BSG75
[11:37] <gnomefreak> BSG75: please use pastebin to paste
[11:37] <Subhuman> cdubya, search on synaptic, there is a gnome app to change it.
[11:37] <BSG75> sorry
[11:37] <Luck> How open *.odt files in Windows(Office-Word)? Is it possible?
[11:37] <superjew9020> ok
[11:37] <BSG75> I didn't realize it will do that ..
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> bruenig: I thought it didn't have any packages on it, if I have got it wrong I stand corrected
[11:38] <Subhuman> Luck, with a plugin i think?
[11:38] <npster> OK now it works
[11:38] <wikijeff> Can anyone see this?
[11:38] <usul> JoseStefan OK, updating...
[11:38] <superjew9020> i no there is on windows but is there such a thing as a system restore on linux
[11:38] <BSG75> any ideas anyone?
[11:38] <csnoop> Any hints on how to debug a very slow wifi connection?
[11:38] <JoseStefan> usul, restart X after the update, you can do a: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:38] <usul> JoseStefan This might fix it, the xserver is being upgraded
[11:39] <bruenig> It has packages. The breezy one didn't but the breezy one didn't have the option to install. I still wonder why the alternate cd is so big if it doesn't have any of that live cd stuff on it. More packages?
[11:39] <Kensey> hey pradford
[11:39] <Kensey> I think there's a btaudio driver or something too
[11:39] <Kensey> maybe you have the video driver but not the audio
[11:39] <bruenig> superjew9020, not automated. If you want system restore. Backup your system from time to time and then use those backups
[11:39] <janez> Canonical only send dapper 6.06 with gnome? or I can do a special request requiring xubuntu?
[11:39] <npster> I am having troubles with my sound ?
[11:40] <BSG75> posted on the pastebin
[11:40] <superjew9020> o ok
[11:40] <cdubya> janez, or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <janez> *requesting
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> bruenig: text installer is usefull when you have a low RAM machine like my little test box
[11:40] <bruenig> janez, you can get xubuntu from shipit also. you just have to specify that. Janez, you can go from ubuntu to xubuntu pretty easily
[11:40] <gnomefreak> janez: not xubuntu but you can get edubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu
[11:40] <ninu> aiuto
[11:40] <gnomefreak> on cd
[11:40] <janez> wait
[11:40] <bruenig> GateKeeper, I love the text installer. So much faster and easier
[11:40] <janez> can get xubuntu or no?
[11:40] <cdubya> !xubuntu
[11:40] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:41] <gnomefreak> bruenig: afaik you can not order xubuntu cds for any reason
[11:41] <cdubya> janez, ^^^^^^^^^^^6
[11:41] <janez> cdubya, I don't have a internet connection in that PC
[11:41] <bruenig> no?
[11:41] <cdubya> ah
[11:41] <bruenig> I thought you could order any *buntu
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> bruenig: agree with you there, you have to wait for the gui to fire up :-)
[11:41] <janez> and I want to promotionate xubuntu, not gnome
[11:41] <gnomefreak> no
[11:41] <janez> *xfce, not gnome
[11:41] <gnomefreak> nope
[11:41] <bruenig> why kde but not xfce
[11:41] <bruenig> that seems odd
[11:41] <gnomefreak> just the 3 i said up there ^^^
[11:41] <BSG75> nm figured it out ... I don't have smbfs installed
[11:41] <BSG75> duhh
[11:41] <BSG75> thanx .. ttyl guys
[11:41] <gnomefreak> kubuntu edubuntu and ubuntu
[11:42] <gnomefreak> becauise its been out longer
[11:42] <janez> mmm
[11:42] <gnomefreak> -i
[11:42] <bruenig> I suppose. More demand I guess.
[11:42] <basbryan> synaptic is broken.  i get the following error message "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".  anyone else run into this after dist-upgrade recently?
[11:42] <Lobster> n8
[11:42] <npster> OH no problem
[11:42] <bruenig> !info libvte-common
[11:42] <ubotu> libvte-common: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[11:42] <gnomefreak> janez: there is a wiki on customizing the live cd see if you cant make it a xubuntu cd ;)
[11:42] <dalila> hi, i am r trying to consifure my ps2 mouse but it is not working, i have no idea where to look or how to get it working
[11:42] <bruenig> I think that might be what you want basbryan
[11:43] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install libvte-common
[11:43] <gnomefreak> basbryan: dapper?
[11:43] <janez> brandon_, apt-get?!
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: what kind of mouse?
[11:43] <basbryan> bruenig: i've tried reinstalling libvte-common.  it didn't help.  let me try again.
[11:43] <janez> aptitude !!
[11:43] <janez> got aptitude
[11:43] <basbryan> gnomefreak: yes dapper
[11:43] <jake1> WOW..... amazing i clicked download now it's copying the file to my computer
[11:43] <JoseStefan> i like apt
[11:43] <jake1> CRAZY
[11:43] <JoseStefan> apt is light
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ping
[11:44] <jake1> you dnt want to know
[11:44] <dalila> its a generic ps2 mouse  i am helping someone configure it no idea what it is it has no brand on it
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> His old windows manual
[11:44] <basbryan> bruenig: Reinstallation of libvte-common is not possible, it cannot be downloaded
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Did you boot with it plugged in?
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Does it work on another os?
[11:44] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> brbr
[11:45] <gnomefreak> basbryan: i think the libvte bug is known
[11:45] <jake1> Hi Jack_Sparrow
[11:45] <dalila> yes
[11:45] <jake1> i thought you were dead
[11:45] <gnomefreak> basbryan: its broekn no you cant reinstall it
[11:45] <bruenig> sudo apt-get install libvte4
[11:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Rumors spread by my wife
[11:45] <npodges> if you're building something from source, is there anyway to download all deps with one command?
[11:45] <basbryan> bruenig: so everyone's synaptic is broken?
[11:45] <bruenig> i never use synaptic let me open it and see
[11:45] <Seveas> bruenig, disable quinnstorms broken repos
[11:45] <longwave> npodges: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[11:45] <Seveas> and downgrade libvte
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Seveas: libvte is borked in dapper (is that what i saw you say before)
[11:45] <Seveas> gnomefreak, it's not
[11:45] <Seveas> quinn storm fucked up
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ah its a compiz thing
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:46] <Seveas> she provides a horribly broken libvte in her repos
[11:46] <npodges> longwave: <3
[11:46] <JoseStefan> my synaptic was fine last time i checked
[11:46] <gnomefreak> i thought she fixed it :(
[11:46] <basbryan> gnomefreak: nope
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Seveas: yeah she made a few in past few days
[11:46] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow: yes to both questions
[11:46] <gnomefreak> basbryan: no what?
[11:46] <npodges> speaking of quinn, anyone know what's up with www.compiz.net not working?
[11:46] <cjones> does any body in hear know when the new version of ubuntu CE ?
[11:46] <bruenig> which are quinnstorms repos
[11:47] <gnomefreak> bruenig: the xgl compiz repos
[11:47] <bruenig> don't have those
[11:47] <lupine> the.... "second coming"...? ;)
[11:48] <gnomefreak> you dont have beerofkid.net repos
[11:48] <JoseStefan> usul, how's that going?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> or something like that
[11:48] <pradford> Kensey: fixed my tv card problem finally.
[11:48] <npodges> beerorkid*
[11:48] <gnomefreak> npodges: thats it ty
[11:48] <bruenig> don't believe so, all I have are dapper stuff and the bleeding edge wine repos as they are called
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Does it work running the live CD?
[11:49] <bruenig> or rather I should say ubuntu stuff. official ubuntu repos
[11:49] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow:   did not try it with live cd
[11:49] <gnomefreak> bruenig: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Did it ever work?  Then after an update start having problems
[11:49] <DooMRunneR> hi
[11:49] <ubuntu> alrite fellas
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Just throwing out some ideas..
[11:49] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow: justinstalled ubuntu 3 days ago, it has never worked
[11:49] <bruenig> nothing is wrong with my computer. Don't know if I am being confused with others
[11:50] <bruenig> but will paste I suppose
[11:50] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow: dont see anything in dmesg as being detected
[11:50] <bruenig> I do have some backports, but they are commented out right now
[11:50] <pradford> how does one get the latest wine packages. is there a repository?
[11:51] <basbryan> all of my libvte stuff is from ubuntu...  not quinn
[11:51] <basbryan> any other suggestions?
[11:51] <Intangir> whats up?
[11:51] <Intangir> basbryan: what are you upto/
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: A mouse should not be a problem... Have you looked at your /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:51] <basbryan> Intangir: my synaptic is broken
[11:51] <Intangir> type apt-get install -f
[11:52] <dalila> Jack_Sparrow: yes looks normal
[11:52] <basbryan> Intangir: did that...  let me try again
[11:52] <basbryan> Intangir: didn't help...  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:52] <usul> JoseStefan its working
[11:52] <Intangir> whats broken exactly?
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: Trying the live CD might help find the problem... THere isnt a USB adapter to PS2 or anything else unusual is there?
[11:53] <basbryan> Intangir: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:53] <Intangir> windows SUCKS it shoudlnt take an hour to delete a few gigs of files
[11:53] <lupine> lots of small ones?
[11:53] <jvai> snaaap-
[11:53] <Intangir> ya
[11:53] <Intangir> but the yare all in a few dirs
[11:53] <dalila> ido se this when i plug and unplug the device [17180246.064000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
[11:53] <JoseStefan> usul, ok
[11:54] <lupine> windows (and linux, IIRC) has to delete each one separately
[11:54] <Intangir> basbryan: you sure you didnt get the gnome-terminal and libvte stuff from quinn?
[11:54] <usul> JoseStefan thanks
[11:54] <Intangir> basbryan: for xgl
[11:55] <basbryan> Intangir: let me pastebin something for you...  and you can see why i don't think i have her vte stuff
[11:55] <cjones> is there a free programe that will convert xvid files to dvd format that i can burn useing dvdrip?
[11:55] <dalila> and this [17180508.308000]  psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
[11:55] <jvai> does dapper have xgl by default? or it has to be installed aftrwards?
[11:55] <Luccid> Hello, after a update my screen resolution changed to 640x480, How can I change this back my higer resolution. System->preferences only offers 640x480
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> Intangir: trying to copy some files off a server today with explorer, just gave up, and used the old dos prompt
[11:55] <ubuntu> cunts] 
[11:56] <Intangir> jvai: not by default
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> dalila: I dont have an answer... Sorry..
[11:56] <jvai> ok
[11:56] <Intangir> basbryan: try this: apt-get install gnome-terminal=2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[11:56] <Intangir> oh wait..
[11:57] <Intangir> aptitude install gnome-terminal=2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[11:57] <AZzKikR> does anyone know of a good IRC client using GTK for ubuntu which supports minimizing to the system tray or whatever its called in gnome?
[11:57] <basbryan> Intangir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21516
[11:57] <ubuntu> #JOIN
[11:58] <JoseStefan> Luccid,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:58] <tuxtux> !gdesklets
[11:58] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:58] <jason__> hello
[11:58] <jhutchins_lt> Does ubuntu not support serial mice?
[11:58] <Intangir> basbryan: aptitude install gnome-terminal=2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[11:58] <lupine> anyone know if it's possible to convert a passphrase-protected openssh pub/private key into an unprotected one? (it is my key :) )
[11:58] <dalila> is there a command just to configure the mouse
[11:58] <modplug> when i try to start compiz i get: glx_ext_texture_from_pixmap is missing - anyone know why?
[11:58] <lupine> or should I give up and generate a new one?
[11:58] <basbryan> Intangir: Broken packages
[11:58] <ktogias> Hi, in dapper I have added the lines "bttv card=1 tuner=3" and "tuner pal=b" in order to make my tv card work, but they are ignored on boot. Bttv is loaded with card=0 and tuner=-1
[11:58] <ktogias> Any suggestions?
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> I wonder who will get B-Slapped after all the problems with this last update..
[11:59] <Luccid> Thanks JoseStefan
[11:59] <gnomefreak> modplug: ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: what problems with last update?
[11:59] <jvai> smh
[11:59] <ktogias> Similar lines at /etc/modules at a breezy system work fine.
[11:59] <basbryan> Intangir: gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-terminal-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.14.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[11:59] <verix> how do I set the default gateway without using network-config?
[11:59] <JoseStefan> modplug, most video cards drivers dont support that opengl feature yet, but i think the error is just a warning
[11:59] <Intangir> basbryan: wtf..
[12:00] <synic> verix: route add default gateway
[12:00] <AZzKikR> verix: edit /etc/networks
[12:00] <AZzKikR> err
[12:00] <basbryan> Intangir: command line i used was:     sudo apt-get -s install gnome-terminal=2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[12:00] <verix> synic: so for ath0 it would be "route add default gateway ath0"?
[12:00] <Intangir> no use aptitude
[12:00] <AZzKikR> verix: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:00] <Intangir> basbryan: sudo aptitude install gnome-terminal=2.14.1-0ubuntu1
[12:00] <synic> verix: no
[12:00] <Intangir> it seems to handle downgrades better
[12:00] <Intangir> more easily
[12:00] <tnzr> Instead of a trap door, what about a trap window? The guy looks out it, and if he leans too far, he falls out.  Wait.  I guess that's like a regular window.
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: I had Kubuntu on another system and was fine until the update and it got messed up..  Finally just trashed the Kubuntu install and put on Mepis..