=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [02:36] Howdy [02:39] hi! [02:39] Heya jsgotangco === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.57.78] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] \o/ [03:26] wahooo!!! [03:29] ?? [03:32] I can set menus! [03:32] Ah [03:41] hmmm, but I can only give it one menu at a time [03:41] :( === mhz [n=mhz@152-24-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] \o/ [04:09] well, I can manually create dynamic menus :-) [04:15] LaserJock: really? [04:15] how? [04:16] well, I set up a couple .menus [04:16] oh, i see [04:16] then I create a file per user that merges the ones I want [04:16] so, teacher decides which .menu to use? [04:16] or load for students? [04:16] the teacher will use /etc/groups === mhz trying to understand then [04:17] Then I use a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ to set XDG_CONFIG_DIR by user [04:17] I just need to work on all the automation [04:17] ooooh [04:17] get it now === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:18] LaserJock: but.... IIRC, you dont encourage the use of command line interfaces :D [04:18] so when a student logs in the XDG_CONFIG_DIR is set to /usr/share/edubuntu-menus/ [04:18] nice [04:19] which contains a .menu file that merges the .menu files from the groups that they belong to [04:19] LaserJock: I like the idea [04:19] so all the teacher should need to do is add the student to the chemistry group [04:19] and then perhaps run an "update menus" script that produces all the user .menu files [04:19] and then it should just work [04:20] the problem is that you can only set .menu per user [04:20] so I need to do the merging in that one .menu [04:21] I had wanted to do it by just giving XDG_CONFIG_DIR multiple dirs [04:21] but it just picks the first applications.menu it finds :/ [04:21] hmmm === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@p54AEFC0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan waves to LaserJock and mhz === mhz waves back to Yagisan, the Mr. Security Man [04:22] hi Yagisan [04:22] Yagisan: unfortunately, i am on my way off now :( [04:23] oh. no matter, I'll catch up with you later then mhz [04:23] Yagisan: best regards and whishes to you and your family [04:23] bye all === caravena [n=caravena@136-65-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-6-76-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:03] Evening all [05:05] Heya sbalneav [05:05] evening bddebian === e1mer [n=elmer@58.71.14.245] has joined #edubuntu [05:24] hi sbalneav === e1mer [n=elmer@58.71.14.245] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEDB3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Ironhead [n=jac@60.51.114.202] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === kwak [n=opera@61.19.195.42] has left #edubuntu [] === gotama [n=guillerm@61-223-182-94.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === gotama [n=guillerm@61-223-182-94.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #edubuntu [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === e1mer [n=elmer@58.71.14.245] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@218.235.150.108] has joined #edubuntu [08:44] !seen mhz [08:44] I last saw mhz (n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz) 4h 21m 4s ago, quiting: "Leaving" === rodarvus [i=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-182-176.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:18] hey [09:20] greetz jsgotangco : how are you in mind & body today ? [09:20] pretty boring day === RichEd does a quick song & dance accompanied by the sounds of african drums in the background [09:21] heh not doing much all day lately === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [i=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-182-176.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-146-182-176.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === gpggpg [n=gpg@83.99.106.114] has joined #edubuntu === gpggpg [n=gpg@83.99.106.114] has left #edubuntu [] === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:09] hi will [11:10] hi RichEd [11:10] willvdl: you beat me to it :) [11:10] hi [11:10] uploaded some stuff on homepage at canonical wiki [11:11] thanks ... will check now ... [11:15] mainly marketing stuff [11:16] hmmm, lost yesterdays mail when my new PC broke down === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu [11:16] what time am I meeting with you again today? [11:16] ping willvdl : msg window ... [11:17] using 3g card so have to be in windows currently...no /msg [11:18] HP chap : Clive's new IT head 12:00-12:30 general intro with me [11:18] Clive's new IT head 12:30-1:00 NEPAD eschools with me & you [11:18] you & me for another hour after that [11:18] got it. thanks. see in about an hour === willvdl [n=willvdl@vc-196-207-41-251.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@220.94.46.178] has joined #edubuntu === P47|LL0 [n=gcamposm@220.94.46.178] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:53] Hello. Some times my clients boot into a graphical login, and some times into a tty. I haven't managed to find a clear pattern. [11:54] It's not something consistent. The same machine will do one or the other at seemingly random times. [11:54] I doubt that it's a driver problem, since you can press Ctrl+Alt+F7 and get the GUI. [11:55] But that is something that would freak out many elementary school teachers. [12:04] what is LAMS all about [12:15] awww this is so cute [12:15] I just heard from the IT lead on a school I worked with who had a little kid come and tell him about how he asked his mom if her computer could run ubuntu, and she didn't understand what it was, and he was so sad because he couldn't have it [12:16] /W 2 === jinty [n=jinty@80.Red-83-50-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:21] awwww [12:21] magnon: that's a shame === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] but still very cute :) [12:33] magnon: Give him an Ubuntu LiveCD. [12:33] magnon: His mom can manage that. [12:34] Seriously, schools that have Ubuntu installed should have a stack of CDs to give out. [12:42] magnon: Is giving him a LiveCD an option? [12:42] You'll get a family to hear about Ubuntu and they'll tell their friends. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === acersales [n=acersale@60.49.107.112] has joined #edubuntu [12:57] hi i am typing a 'clear' command on the console and gettting the error 'terminal is not a console' [12:58] that's weird. [12:58] i know but any way to reset reconfigure something ? [12:58] sorry, no idea. [12:59] ok [01:04] any idea guyz ? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:05] acersales: what terminal are you using? [01:05] gnome terminal [01:06] dapper? [01:06] yes [01:06] 2.14.2? [01:07] u mean the kernel ? [01:07] no the version of gnome-term [01:07] how to check ? [01:08] apt-cache policy gnome-terminal [01:08] or help>about [01:08] yes it is 2.14.2 [01:09] k hold ona sec i have someone running it for me [01:10] do you think it will help to reconfigure ? [01:11] if i do it as root it works ? [01:11] what can be the problem / [01:11] ? [01:11] you can try [01:11] ok thanks [01:12] acersales: try reinstalling it by running sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-terminal [01:12] ok [01:13] acersales: can you run echo TERM in terminal [01:13] now i am reinstalling it [01:13] Seveas: oh hell your in here [01:13] gnomefreak, ? [01:14] looks like it should be echo $TERM [01:14] Seveas: acersales is having the issue [01:14] i just left dapper to hopfully fix my nvidia issues [01:14] acersales, dpkg -l gnome-terminal | cat [01:15] yah then ? [01:15] that reinstall doesnt work gnomefreak [01:16] acersales, what's the output of the command I gave? [01:16] acersales: run the command Seveas gave you [01:16] should i paste it here ? [01:17] Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold [01:17] | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed [01:17] |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) [01:17] ||/ Name Version Description [01:17] +++-==============-===============-============================================ [01:17] ii gnome-terminal 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application [01:17] it is working fine with the root user [01:17] acersales: su or sudo? [01:17] only 'clear' command does work with normal user [01:17] works fine [01:18] acersales, eh? You just said it didn't work... [01:19] with the user doesnt work [01:19] with the root it works [01:19] when i do su [01:19] only 'clear' command does work with normal user [01:19] goes in as root [01:19] t work [01:19] yes you are right [01:19] thn what doesn't work?!? [01:19] only clear command is the problem [01:20] ok, you alternate between saying it doesn't work and it does work... make up your mind and be clear about what fails please... [01:20] ok i type again [01:21] only from my user side i cannot use command 'clear' it gives the error 'terminal is not the console' [01:21] from root i can use this command normaly [01:21] is clear aliased to clear_console perhaps? [01:23] yes [01:23] i did again and still the same error [01:24] why have you aliased clear to clear_console? [01:24] you shouldn't do that [01:24] aliased means creal symbolic link ? [01:24] clear_console indeed behaves like this (and it should) [01:25] aliased means create symbolic link ? [01:25] acersales: what's the output of this command: which clear [01:25] terminal is not a console [01:25] ... [01:25] acersales: what's the output of this command: which clear [01:26] no output i deleted clear command now from the /usr/bin [01:26] :D [01:26] ... [01:26] because just now i messed with clear and clear_console :( [01:27] anyway to bring it back ? [01:27] sigh, I give up on this... [01:28] thanks no problem [01:28] >:D< i will try to bring it back : [01:28] takecare bye [01:31] anyone here set up a fresh dapper install with apt-cacher ? === JanisLee [n=JanisLee@201-66-6-185.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [01:38] Can anyone imagine why a client might boot into the GUI some times and other times go to a tty? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-231.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:39] DanielC, no, but when it does ctrl+f7 shows the GUI [01:39] yes, it does. [01:40] DanielC, it annoys me too, as it happens at random :( [01:40] I just fear that this would give a very bad impression. [01:40] Ok, so it happens to you too... === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.107.100] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] DanielC, it's been happening since breezy. I counldn't narrow down the cause, and I don't think ogra did either [01:41] DanielC, but I've not tried edgy yet so it may well be fixed [01:42] Well, if we don't know the cause, I wouldn't expect it fixed :) [01:42] Well, thanks for the help! [01:43] At least I know not to waste a lot of time on this. [01:45] np DanielC === Caraibes [n=martinbr@tdev233-174.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [i=ogra@conference/ubuntu/de/unlabeled] has joined #edubuntu === Caraibes [n=martinbr@tdev233-174.codetel.net.do] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] cbx33, whats up with SCP ? i just merged your changes ... there is no startup script in the dbus dir and it seems the conf file isnt installed either .... [02:13] (its kinda odd, mark just wanted to look at it ...) [02:13] also what are scp-server, scp-client and non-root-scp-client ? [02:13] hmmm [02:14] ok hang on [02:14] i'll fix up [02:14] gimme 10 mins [02:15] ogra, ~I forgot to copy the ACL to my bzr repo [02:15] I'll do that now [02:15] take your time ... he's gone to the next project now (time is very short here due to the X desaster) [02:15] bugger [02:15] sorry dude [02:15] I thought you'd have one for some reason [02:16] dont worry ... i'll try to catch him later again and revert to my versin for now so he can at least see how it looks like :) [02:16] copying the acl wont help, the dbus files are not in place [02:16] which dbus files? [02:17] the service must be started ... [02:17] oh restarted you mean [02:17] to listen on the system bus [02:17] yes [02:17] no [02:17] not restarted [02:17] the service must be installed in /etc/dbus-1/event.d [02:18] and i dont see the code in the student-control-panel binary thats using it ... but i might not look close enugh [02:19] ogra, I did n't add a file to event.d [02:19] there is one for hal [02:19] hal ??? [02:19] but it worked without [02:20] ok my bzr repo now has the student-control.conf file to be palced in the system.d folder in dbus [02:20] then you just need to run non-root-scp-client on the listenting machine [02:20] to make a namespace properly available to dbus it needs to be in the event.d directory with a sequence number in the name [02:20] ok that wasn't present in the tutorial I read [02:21] but I will create one of those [02:21] but, it does "work" so you can see it in action [02:21] thats why i said to look at willowng and just copy it from there [02:21] its doing the right thing [02:21] I did, but at the time I didn;t understand willowng [02:21] so I got it from the dbus homepage [02:22] I will go back and do that...my apologies [02:22] scp-server and scp-client can be ignored.....they are now removed from the repo [02:22] you only need a /etc/dbus-1/event.d/60StudentControlPanel and add the management code (that sends the messages to the student-control-panel binary ) [02:22] ok [02:23] I'll cerate one now [02:23] s/messages/messages)/ [02:24] gimme like 10 mins [02:24] thoguht I shoudl be done in 5 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [02:27] ogra, I'm confused === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [02:27] this event.d file [02:27] is fine if there is a central service/server [02:27] like willowng [02:27] but we don't have one [02:27] we should have one [02:27] we have SCP [02:28] and the listeners [02:28] just copy whats done in willowng [02:28] treat the student-control-panel binary like willowng-config [02:29] s/listeners/listener/, right ? [02:29] well a listener for each user [02:29] who is logged in [02:29] right ... [02:29] started by Xsession.d [02:29] ogra, do you remember when we had our discussion a while ago and I said there was SCP, a server part, and a listener [02:29] and you said we don't have a server part [02:29] no server part [02:29] so I scrapped it [02:29] exactly [02:30] so what is it that the dbus init is meant to start [02:30] you need a service on dbus indeed so dbus is aware of the namespace and the ACL can apply [02:30] thats the part that gets started from event.d [02:30] I havn't written one of those [02:30] the service [02:30] but the ACL's still work fine [02:30] the ACL and definition is in the .conf file in system.d [02:31] what would this service do [02:31] like willowng does it [02:31] ogra, yes it is [02:31] I have done that too [02:31] but....I'm sorry for being thick here, I can;t see what the "service" actually does [02:31] well, how would the ACL work if you dont apply it to dbus via a service you install in event.d ? [02:31] ;) I dunno but it works [02:31] the name space is setup [02:32] but not corryctly [02:32] there are more conf files in the system.d but they don;t have event.d files either [02:32] just copy willowng === Cadet [i=Cadet@195-23-185-223.net.novis.pt] has joined #edubuntu [02:32] hi [02:33] has anyone got a copy of the ubuntu font ? [02:33] ogra, gnome-power-manager, bluez, and notification-daemon all have ACL's [02:33] in system.d [02:33] but do not have service files in event.d [02:33] only hal does [02:33] /etc/dbus-1/system.d/student-control-panel.conf <- ACL [02:33] are you saying they are wrong? [02:33] /etc/dbus-1/event.d/60StudentControlPanel <- namespace listener for dbus [02:34] .../XSession.d/XY-SCP <- client === Cadet [i=Cadet@195-23-185-223.net.novis.pt] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:34] and code in SCP itself that sends the messages [02:34] thats the structure we need [02:34] I totally see all of that [02:34] I understand what yo uare saying [02:35] thats good :) [02:35] but what does that namespace listener do? - I has no function [02:35] how else would you make dbus use the acl ? [02:36] you need something that has root permissions in the backend [02:36] ogra, would you do me a favour and try it? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [02:37] else SCP wouldnt be able to exec anything [02:37] oh, no ... wait [02:37] we dont ... [02:37] the listener does [02:37] the client executes it itself ... [02:37] yes [02:37] sorry, i'm confusing myself here ... we all had a short night ... [02:37] sorry ogra, I wasn't clear [02:38] I'm not that great at explaining what I mean sometimes [02:38] no, i was confused :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [02:38] we dont need the event.d stuff ... [02:38] phew === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus_ [n=rodarvus@p54A8042B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus__ [n=rodarvus@p54A830BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p54A830BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] ok guys [03:16] oo-bun-to or You-bun-to [03:16] :? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:18] hi JanisLee [03:18] whoops [03:18] jsgotangco, [03:18] ubuntu :) [03:18] hi [03:18] ogra_, very funny [03:18] ogra_, did it work now? === ogra [n=ogra@p54A830BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === anemiat1 [n=shiv@pool-72-72-69-15.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.209.153.162] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] ogra, did you get my mail ? === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === StephenL [n=steve@216.62.85.65] has joined #edubuntu [04:52] I'm trying to get Xorg to accept remote connections. No matter what I try, -nolisten tcp gets set somewhere. [04:52] What do I need to change to disable that option? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:53] a) you shouldnt do that, its horribly unsafe (you can take screenshots from sniffed traffic, and read passwords in plain text) [04:54] b) you *can* eable xdmcp support in gdm [04:54] just use gdmsetup for that ... but note that our ltsp implementation doesnt support it for security reasons [04:55] so how can I get thin clients to connect if it isn't listening [04:55] ? [04:55] ubuntu ltsp uses ssh [04:55] did you follow the gettingstarted guide from the channel topic [04:55] ARGH [04:55] who broke that === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | Read before installing: http://www.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted [04:56] Hello [04:56] (the last link) [04:56] hey bddebian [04:56] Hi ogra [04:57] ogra: yes, I have read that but I'm not doing a network or pxe boot. [04:59] well, ldm (our login manager) wont wor on normal systems ... [05:00] *work [05:00] I'm trying to connect with a neoware thin client. It supports xdm. === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #edubuntu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has left #edubuntu ["Quitte"] [05:01] Do you know what I need to enable without using dgmsetup. I'm ssh'd to server so dgmsetup won't work. [05:01] and there is no way to netboot with that ? [05:02] yes, there is but I can't throw another dhcp server in here. I would have to run it on an alternate port and that's a pita. [05:02] there is a section in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom for xdmcp [05:02] add: [05:02] Enable=true [05:02] below [05:03] I added that to the [xdmcp] sectioin [05:03] It still starts X with --nolisten tcp [05:03] that should suffice ... did you restart gdm ? [05:03] yes and even rebooted [05:04] --nolisten tcp shouldnt have any influence on xdmcp ... [05:04] thats only for stuff like xhost [05:04] oh [05:05] hmmm, still won't connect. === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.226.13.147] has joined #edubuntu [05:10] I work for a school district and we are going to test replacing windows boxes in labs with these thin clients booting to edubuntu. [05:11] The problem is I can't change the dhcp servers. [05:11] can yu make up a separate network ? [05:12] so the server has two interfaces, one is a client ot the existing dhcp and the other one serves the thin clients on a physically parted net ? [05:13] Yes, that's a possibility. But I would need a dhcp server in each lab. Doing it like this I can have I server and have the clients connect to it from wherever. I can configure these thin clients to connect automatically on startup to the server so they don't have to network boot. [05:14] o way to get them netbooting at all ? [05:14] No, not really. [05:15] ogra, SCP ok now? [05:17] bzr pull doesnt revela anything new [05:17] *reveal [05:17] are you puling from LP [05:18] ah, right, that doesnt mirror that often [05:20] so lets see how the package looks now [05:20] Is there a logfile that I can look at to see why the client can't connect? === ogra pbuilds [05:21] I havn't done the pacakge yet [05:21] :S [05:22] ah, then it cant work indeed === DrkLrd [n=ajay@59.93.197.65] has joined #edubuntu [05:22] RichEd, ping [05:22] hi DrkLrd ... [05:22] hi others : cbx33 ogra [05:22] RichEd, yes yes finally i gave the presentation and they LOVED it!!! [05:22] hi RichEd [05:22] they agreed to have it on a few PC;s === RichEd pats DrkLrd on the back ... well done ! [05:23] thanks RichEd [05:23] now i go to a regional level expo [05:23] and there i get a Projector too [05:23] :) [05:23] three cheers ... hip hip horay ! [05:24] cbx33, whats self.smess ? [05:24] it chokes on that [05:25] :S was fine when I ran it [05:25] lemme check [05:25] cbx33: Will has started the planning for brochures ... it's on a Canonical wiki page ... i'll mail you it in HTML [05:26] cbx33, ah, right you redid tha glade file [05:26] *the [05:26] yes [05:26] well, I had to add the message [05:26] it may be that I add that as a plugin [05:26] to test the framework and provide an example === rkd [n=rday@80-41-23-154.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:27] noisy errors on the console [05:29] cbx33: sent ... [05:29] please use # for comments in the future ... ctrl+v in vi is handy here ... so i can easier see where you commented out stuff [05:29] ok sorry ogra [05:29] ogra, oh? [05:30] whiat erroes [05:32] well, john and pete arent logged in ;) [05:32] so its hard to get their processlist [05:32] we need better errorhandling here [05:32] if i enable the userlist stuff its fine [05:33] yeh [05:33] as I said that was my testing [05:33] yay [05:33] a message pops up :) [05:34] now it time for some serious contribution [05:34] bugs bugs where are those darn bugs [05:34] ogra, are yo ua happy chap? [05:34] let's try xorg bugs ;) [05:34] cbx33, totally ! [05:34]