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| fritsch | imbrandon: suggests are now correct for me | 12:26 |
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| imbrandon | huh ? | 12:27 |
| === imbrandon hasent finished uploading yet heh | ||
| fritsch | mmmh, aliens? | 12:28 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: i wait till you say what to do (as contracted before) | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | k ;) heh | 12:29 |
| imbrandon | i will be about 1 more hour before i get it all done ( i'm doing a few other things at the same time ) | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | sorry if that is too long to wait | 12:30 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: when this current upload is finished, can i help there something? | 12:30 |
| imbrandon | help with what ? | 12:31 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: after the upload, my bed cries heavily | 12:31 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: apt-cache madison | 12:31 |
| imbrandon | i'm not sure what you are asking fritsch | 12:31 |
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| fritsch | imbrandon: we said, i wait here for testing :-) | 12:31 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok , well if you have to leave for bed that is okie , i understand ;) | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | but if you like to wait thats ok too | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | upto you :) but thank you for your help so far either way | 12:32 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: you aren` t currently in Wiesbaden, aren`t you? | 12:32 |
| imbrandon | no i'm not | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | not this time | 12:33 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: perhaps we had met tomorrow, wanted to go today, but had to do some real life stuff :-( | 12:34 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: but if you need a dapper test computer, i can give you ssh onto the "test computer", no prob | 12:34 |
| imbrandon | thats ok i have some other computer that run dapper i can turn on | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | thanks for the offer though | 12:35 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: then me goes to bed ... happy fetching updates tomorrow | 12:35 |
| fritsch | imbrandon: thx for your work, see you soon | 12:35 |
| imbrandon | see ya ;) sleep well | 12:35 |
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| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Any luck on u4 yet by any chance ? | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | heh fighting with amarok still bro | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | and konversation | 12:55 |
| Hawkwind | Ohhh, that's no fun I know | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | actualy its not too bad | 12:56 |
| imbrandon | i think i got it whiped now, its syncing to the server | 12:56 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind: you on dapper or edgy ? | 12:56 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Dapper | 12:56 |
| imbrandon | kde right ? | 12:56 |
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| Tonio__ | hey !! | 01:09 |
| Tonio__ | got my key now :) | 01:09 |
| crimsun | hoo rah | 01:09 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: I hope you'll never have to perform 400 km with a car to get a gnupg key backup....... | 01:12 |
| Tonio__ | not funny at all | 01:12 |
| Tonio__ | :) | 01:12 |
| crimsun | Tonio__: worse. I've driven cross-country to revive a dead computer in data centre twice. (about 1800 mi each way) | 01:13 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: indeed, you win :) | 01:13 |
| crimsun | no, we both lost :( | 01:13 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: true :'( | 01:13 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: since you are here, are you still alsa maintainer ? | 01:14 |
| crimsun | I do a lot of alsa work, but I don't know if that makes me an "alsa maintainer" :) | 01:14 |
| Tonio__ | okay that should be interesting for you | 01:14 |
| Tonio__ | I have a last generation vaio computer, with integrated webcam | 01:15 |
| Tonio__ | and alsa fails to make correct usage of the microphone | 01:15 |
| Tonio__ | kind of conflict between the camera one and the jack one | 01:15 |
| crimsun | does alsa recognise the webcam's? | 01:15 |
| Tonio__ | for example, when I plug the jack, that doesn't disable the camera one | 01:16 |
| crimsun | i.e., is it listed in /proc/asound/devices as a capture | 01:16 |
| Tonio__ | yes it does, but sound level is always maximum and I can't set it | 01:16 |
| Tonio__ | so I just get a big freeze | 01:16 |
| Tonio__ | reverb | 01:16 |
| crimsun | ah | 01:16 |
| imbrandon | Tonio__: great ( about the key ) ;P | 01:16 |
| Tonio__ | the point the configuration seems to touch the jack port, but the sound is on the camera one, which is unconfigurable | 01:17 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: looking at windows on the same machine, it seems that the jack/camera switch is done by a daemon, so it is pure software (stupid but that's it) | 01:18 |
| Tonio__ | and lots of recent laptops are doing this when they come with cameras | 01:18 |
| crimsun | if that sound chipset is HDA, that's becoming the norm. Yeah. | 01:18 |
| Tonio__ | is alsa supposed to eventually support that feature ? | 01:18 |
| Tonio__ | well that's stupid to me.... but that's it | 01:18 |
| Tonio__ | just make things more complicated | 01:18 |
| Tonio__ | well the point is that I can't use the microphone, which doesn't seems very serious in 2006 :) | 01:19 |
| crimsun | jack sense is already supported for other chipsets; it just needs to be tweaked for specific HDA codecs & models | 01:19 |
| crimsun | if you're referring to the "autoreconfigure" bit of some HDA codecs, there's only a little progress in that regard | 01:20 |
| Tonio__ | crimsun: can I give you any informations that would be usefull "for the future" ? ^^ | 01:20 |
| Tonio__ | well audio on linux is really "the" thing that gets me lost ;) | 01:20 |
| Tonio__ | I just wondered what informations could I give to help inthe improvement on my laptop support | 01:21 |
| crimsun | Tonio__: please file a bug report against linux-source-2.6.x; attach ``lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer'' for now | 01:21 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: got it dicovered | 01:21 |
| DaSkreech | discovered | 01:21 |
| crimsun | x can be both 15 and 17 if it fails in both dapper's and edgy's kernels | 01:21 |
| DaSkreech | It was fontconfig | 01:22 |
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| Tonio__ | crimsun: sure thanks :) | 01:25 |
| DaSkreech | mornfall: Technically what would happen if I made a view for adept for all my installed packages then pressed Ctrl+A and did a reinstall? | 01:54 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: well, I'm off to bed, I'll read your comment about http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2939 in the morning :) | 03:29 |
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| imbrandon | Hobbsee: poke | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: heya! | 04:29 |
| === Hobbsee is actually alive now :) | ||
| === Hobbsee can BREATHE! | ||
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| nixternal_ | schools kool | 04:30 |
| DaSkreech | You were breathless? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: yeah. found it incredibly hard to concentrate on anything due to light headedness :P | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | This is OK by me if Jonathan's OK with it; he's said he'd like to give | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | it a spin first. | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | for https://launchpad.net/bugs/57449 | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57449 in amarok "Edgy UVF Exception Request" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 05:30 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee: python2.4 broken for kubuntu? | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yeah, crimsun broke it | 06:30 |
| === nixternal grumbles | ||
| Hobbsee | nixternal: borked postinst? | 06:30 |
| nixternal | the dpkg erro | 06:31 |
| nixternal | r | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | ... | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | that doenst help | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | ie, how did dpkg die? | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | due to broken postinst? | 06:31 |
| nixternal | one sec ;) | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | (it usually says) | 06:31 |
| nixternal | yup | 06:31 |
| nixternal | post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun's working on fixing it | 06:32 |
| nixternal | python2.4-minimal | 06:32 |
| === Hobbsee goes back to playing kpat in peace :) | ||
| nixternal | roger that..just wanted to make sure it wasn't me ;) | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | (solitare, etc, from kde games) :P | 06:32 |
| nixternal | first night at uni for me tonight...very boring | 06:32 |
| nixternal | we watched revolution os, a documentary about RMS, Linux, the dude that create apache, and the guys from cygnus | 06:33 |
| DaSkreech | Eh? | 06:33 |
| DaSkreech | Oh sorry thought someone called me | 06:33 |
| Hobbsee | heh. fun | 06:33 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: I err, no | 06:36 |
| crimsun | I simply exposed the bug that has been sitting there since Debian's -7 | 06:36 |
| DaSkreech | Debian 7? | 06:37 |
| crimsun | dist-upgrades from Dapper->Edgy were bombing before I uploaded. | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: ah right | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: so we cant just blame you at random? okay then | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | !find libvisual edgy | 06:38 |
| ubotu | Found: libvisual-0.4-0, libvisual-0.4-dev, libvisual-0.4-plugins | 06:38 |
| crimsun | well I'm sure _someone_ will harp at me simply because I was the last to upload | 06:38 |
| === Hobbsee hugs crimsun | ||
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i'll stop blaming you, seeing as it's not your error | 06:39 |
| === DaSkreech pastes blame me on crimsum's back | ||
| nixternal | i released that in the new konversation, the up arrow doesn't post your previous lines | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: does here | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: does here | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i'll stop blaming you, seeing as it's not your error | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i'll stop blaming you, seeing as it's not your error | 06:41 |
| === Hobbsee hugs crimsun | ||
| Hobbsee | etc | 06:41 |
| Hobbsee | it works | 06:41 |
| nixternal | not here | 06:41 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:41 |
| DaSkreech | Echo echo ec... | 06:42 |
| nixternal | mine doesn't ;( | 06:42 |
| nixternal | i wonder why..that is odd | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: config file? | 06:42 |
| nixternal | unless the up arrow got tagged for something else | 06:43 |
| === nixternal checks | ||
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| nixternal | i have iKs | 06:51 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: i figured out why | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | yay :) | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | what was the problem? | 06:52 |
| nixternal | don't select "let something expand"..the text box you type in...if you set it to expand with text, the up arrow doesn't work | 06:52 |
| nixternal | bug? | 06:52 |
| nixternal | i will ask sho_ | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 06:53 |
| Hobbsee | he's asleep | 06:53 |
| nixternal | no time for sleep, we have work to do | 06:56 |
| nixternal | when will these people figure that out ;) | 06:56 |
| crimsun | the workaround for the python2.4-minimal issue is to forcibly purge python-central (dpkg -P --force-depends), then dpkg --configure -a, then reinstall python-central | 06:58 |
| crimsun | the bug isn't actually in python2.4-minimal, it's in python-central | 06:59 |
| nixternal | thanks crimsun | 07:02 |
| nixternal | brb | 07:06 |
| nixternal | /quit restart | 07:06 |
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| nixternal | crimsun: you rock! | 07:18 |
| crimsun | not really, still haven't nailed the pycentral boog yet | 07:18 |
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| fritsch | imbrandon_: ty for amarok, it is working ... libvisual-0.4-0 gets installed :-) | 07:53 |
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| insanekane | hello Hobbsee | 10:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey insanekane | 10:09 |
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| seaLne | bah debian got k3b 0.12.17 faster due to waiting for uvfe :( | 10:11 |
| seaLne | Riddell: assuming i get UVFE for k3b please don't upload yet | 10:11 |
| Riddell | seaLne: have you requested it? | 10:12 |
| seaLne | yes | 10:12 |
| Riddell | seaLne: bug number? | 10:13 |
| seaLne | mdz read the bug i didn't believe i'd included changelog :) | 10:13 |
| Riddell | oh yes, I remember that | 10:13 |
| seaLne | Bug #57475 | 10:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57475 in k3b "k3b 0.12.17 Edgy UVF Exception Request" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57475 | 10:13 |
| seaLne | the changelog was so short i didn't see any point not putting it in | 10:13 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: did you see the result of the amarok UVF exception? | 10:14 |
| seaLne | * Remove RPATHs using chrpath to get rid of lintian warnings | 10:15 |
| seaLne | ^ anyone know what rpaths are? | 10:15 |
| seaLne | we don't have any lintian warnings | 10:15 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes, I need to test the package | 10:15 |
| Riddell | which I'll do now | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: cool | 10:16 |
| Hobbsee | you got imbrandon_'s updated packages? | 10:16 |
| insanekane | yes, what is rpath ? | 10:16 |
| seaLne | "chrpath changes, lists or removes the rpath or runpath setting in a binary. The rpath, or runpath if it is present, is where the runtime linker should look for the libraries needed for a program." | 10:17 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes | 10:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: cool | 10:17 |
| Riddell | 16MB. wow, what do these amarok people have in this | 10:18 |
| seaLne | Riddell: do you know anything abour rpath? http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-k3b/k3b/trunk/debian/rules?op=diff&rev=0&sc=1 | 10:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, exactly | 10:20 |
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| kwwii_ | moin | 10:21 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: we don't want it debian packages, is all I know | 10:22 |
| Riddell | s/debian/.deb/ | 10:22 |
| raphink | hi kwwii | 10:22 |
| kwwii | hi raphink | 10:23 |
| seaLne | Riddell: in english is that we don't want ti in the ubuntu packages? :) | 10:26 |
| Riddell | seaLne: correct | 10:26 |
| Riddell | although I admit to not really understanding what it's all about | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | hah. finally, my signal strength says 100 - i'm 2-3 metres away from the access point. | 10:30 |
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| Arbiter | uhm.. | 10:32 |
| Riddell | hi Arbiter | 10:32 |
| Arbiter | Riddell: i don't like the purple color so much.. | 10:33 |
| Arbiter | :) | 10:33 |
| Arbiter | (imho of course) | 10:33 |
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| Arbiter | Riddell: if i can give my opinion: i prefer the blue-colored theme | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | whine. | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | i thought my connection was behaving today | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | what'd i miss? | 10:35 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: only my comment about the purple color theme of kubuntu :D | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: ah. which was? | 10:36 |
| Arbiter | that i prefer the blue color theme :D | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | right | 10:36 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what country do you live in? | 10:36 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas | 10:37 |
| Arbiter | last two wallpapers | 10:37 |
| === Hobbsee hears talk over and over in dapper about how the artwork was terrible, and now that it's changed, people complain about it not being blue. | ||
| Hobbsee | mind you, i do think that we should use the flower picture | 10:37 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: the flower picture? | 10:40 |
| Arbiter | why not a wallpaper with a small kubuntu logo? :) | 10:41 |
| fritsch | Arbiter: the flower picture rocks, the whole theme look very cool | 10:41 |
| kwwii | the logos should not be used in the wallpapers (I was told that from sabdfl) | 10:41 |
| Arbiter | uhm.. | 10:42 |
| kwwii | I will be including several of the new wallpapers in the next few weeks | 10:42 |
| kwwii | I have kdm and the ksplash done, using them as bg as well | 10:42 |
| kwwii | if anyone is interested in testing the new stuff, i have tar.gz files with the new stuff on my server (not packages, just the pics) | 10:43 |
| Arbiter | i'm interested | 10:43 |
| Arbiter | kwwii: but.. what's your server address? :D | 10:44 |
| kwwii | http://bootsplash.org/edgyWallpaper.tar.gz , kwin-style-crystal_kenPics.tar.gz , kubuntu_edgy_kdm.tar.gz , kubuntu_ksplash.tar.gz | 10:45 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: definetly :) | 10:45 |
| kwwii | the window buttons need to be put into the right dir in the package and then built in order to test them | 10:45 |
| kwwii | but the rest can simply be copied to the dir in the running system to change | 10:45 |
| Arbiter | wallpaper is cool :) | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | ooh i do love packaging bugs that we fixed for edgy but forgot about for dapper.... | 10:51 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: were you planning to put the amarok 1.4.2 repo onto kubuntu.org? | 10:52 |
| Hobbsee | upstream is wanting to know where they can send people for updated debs | 10:52 |
| kwwii | Riddell is watching a demo atm | 10:53 |
| Hobbsee | yay. upstream is happy that i fixed the install mp3 support on amarok | 10:56 |
| kwwii | wow, you made the amarok people happy, not always and easy thing | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: hehe, true that. | 10:57 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 10:58 |
| Arbiter | kwwii: i like the wallpapers :) | 10:59 |
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| Tonio_ | hey everyone | 11:25 |
| kwwii | howdy Tonio_ | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: HEY ;) | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hi ;) | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I really like the window decoration currently | 11:27 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: cool, good to hear that | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: except maybe the gradient | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: not that I don't like it, but it goes from white to purple | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | probably white is a "little" bit too clear | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | but I still like it | 11:28 |
| kwwii | until now I have only tested it on my laptop, so it might look different on other machines | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: possibly yes | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | the effect is very cool too :) | 11:29 |
| kwwii | I think that effect still needs some work, really | 11:29 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahh...so i wasnt the only one to notice that | 11:29 |
| === Hobbsee *wondered* why it looked like someone put bits of snow on the top of her monitor | ||
| Hobbsee | it does look veyr nice though :) | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: were you still thinking of using the flower picture? | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: It is the only thing I'm not a real fan | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | but I globally like the work done :) | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed. | 11:30 |
| === Hobbsee has learned that you cant please everyone with artwork | ||
| === Hobbsee thinks kwwii does a very good job at a mostly-impossible task | ||
| kwwii | Hobbsee: not really....it seems to be too complicated for some people | 11:31 |
| kwwii | I love it though and use it personally on my desktop | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii: ah okay | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | same here :P | 11:31 |
| kwwii | :-) | 11:32 |
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| Tonio_ | hum that deadkey bug on qt makes me crazy | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | it makes it impossible to write french correctly | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | I assume the problem is the same for spanish probably since they use accents a lot | 11:47 |
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| Hobbsee | !ping | 12:07 |
| ubotu | ping: unknown host | 12:07 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: what dapper amarok packages do we have? | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/ | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i would assume, those ones | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | you' dhave to ask imbrandon_ - he took care of dapper side | 12:19 |
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| === Tonio_ prepares a page with the major bugs to resolve before edgy is out | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: since you are very active on malone, would ou like to contribute ? | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: of bugs to fix? | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm... | 12:21 |
| === Hobbsee tries to think of some | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: for example bug 56794 | 12:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56794 in qt-x11-free "Qt breaks dead keys" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56794 | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | true | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | probably anything that's marked as high | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | this one makes kubuntu almost unusable for french, belgium, french canadians, spanish etc........ | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | a whole lot in kdelibs/kdebase | 12:23 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes, and for example concerning the cd not mounting with sata devices, I'll probably contact erwin from kde | 12:24 |
| === Hobbsee nods again | ||
| Tonio_ | the good point is that danimo from kde is aware of the bug and has it too :) | 12:24 |
| Tonio_ | that might help | 12:24 |
| Sime | Riddell: kde-systemsettings is fixed up and ready to be packaged again. | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: concerning the power management entry ? | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | I though about that this morning :) | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell!!!! | 12:32 |
| === Hobbsee cheers | ||
| Hobbsee | backports are working again :) | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I can do the package, but where to grab the source from ? kde svn ? | 12:33 |
| Sime | Tonio_: and? | 12:33 |
| Sime | kde svn | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: well there is an desktop file to remove | 12:33 |
| Sime | Tonio_: you are talking about the power management icon in k-s-s? | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 12:34 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: unless there is a kcm module in development :) | 12:34 |
| Sime | Tonio_: I can easily remove it by editing the menu .xml file from k-s-s. | 12:34 |
| Sime | Tonio_: not from me | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yes I know but isn't this better to simply remove the entry since we don't use it anomore ? | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | anymore | 12:35 |
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| kwwii | re | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: maybe you wana keep it for other distros... | 12:35 |
| Sime | Tonio_: The icon can beremvoed by removing it from the kdelibs (or kdebase?) package. But that needs to be done "outside" k-s-s. | 12:36 |
| Sime | be removed^ | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: well we don't have it anymore, but it still appears in kss | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | probably because the desktop file is directly in it's source no ? | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: kde-settings-power.directory | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | this one | 12:37 |
| Sime | Tonio_: k-s-s still includes it. I can easily remove it from kss, but it will appear in kcontrol. | 12:37 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: nothing in kcontrol currently | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | there is no more entry since klaptopdaemon has been removed | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | only k-s-s has an entry due to that file | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: the point is if I do the package, I would prefer to have it removed in the tarball than via a rule entry no ? | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | that's probably cleaner | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | and this is why I'm asking you your feeling conkcerning this | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: hum, which brank on the svn plz ? | 12:40 |
| Sime | OH!, I you mean that the klaptop stuff is already remvoed from the kde packages in edgy? | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | exactly ;) | 12:40 |
| Sime | now I've gotcha. | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | so we get an entry in systemsettings that givecs a nasty error message while clicking on it :) | 12:41 |
| Sime | wait a sec as I fix up the menu file. | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | sure | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: you prefer to keep the directory file and remove it from xml files ? | 12:41 |
| Sime | it is not a directory file, but a normal desktop file. Maybe the klaptop .exe was removed, but not the .desktop file. | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: nope it is | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | here is the strange thing ;) | 12:45 |
| Sime | anyway, you are looking for /kde/trunk/playground/base/systemsettings | 12:45 |
| Sime | i just commited the fix. | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: laptoppowermanagement.desktop | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | this file sorry :) | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | has to be removed from the tree probably | 12:46 |
| Sime | that's the one. | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 12:46 |
| Sime | it should be in order now. | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I'm packaging | 12:47 |
| Sime | cool | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: what are the changes in svn for changelog ? | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: usability I assume ? | 12:50 |
| Sime | Tonio_: The changes are just a couple of fixes related to 3.5.4 (some .desktop filenames changed), and a fix for the installation (Makefile.am missed a couple of files during install). | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: okay thanks | 12:52 |
| Sime | gotta go, later | 12:53 |
| Riddell | kwwii: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdm.png | 12:53 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: looks nice :) | 01:03 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: systemsettings/Makefile.am: no rule to create target: AUTO(all-top_systemsettings) | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | did you change that part ? | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | moins all | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I have to go but I'll be there this evening to fix this | 01:26 |
| imbrandon | hrm anyone else haveing problems with python updates today ? | 01:35 |
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| kwwii | http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?id=0821200617613 | 01:42 |
| kwwii | vote for KDE | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | moins kwwii | 01:43 |
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| kwwii | howdy imbrandon | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | wb | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | which part of the world should i take over today? | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee: fix python postinst | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:43 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: thanks for the svg...I will start working on that soon | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | ahh you welcom kwwii , it was just something i was goofin with, like i said if you dont like it or cant use it no biggie ;) | 01:43 |
| === imbrandon just figured it was better than the gnome icon ;) | ||
| kwwii | :-) | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: crimsun was doing that, i thought | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | ahh cool becouse its blockin my other updates ;) | 01:45 |
| === imbrandon o/~ hums o/~ ...... | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: cant you do the others around it? like, try sudo dpkg --configure -a ? | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | nope for some reason it isnt getting past that one | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i think there was a work around of it too? dont really remember | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | and theres no way to remove that without removeing EVERYTHING | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:50 |
| === imbrandon pokes crimsun , you about ? | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: he's away - work | 01:51 |
| === Hobbsee doenst seem to have it installed | ||
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: thanks for the konversation build, no more sigsev, but when you want to look at the logs (Window -> Open Logfile for #channel or Ctrl-O), it causes konversation to hang... I end up having to use killall konversation and making a new window | 02:07 |
| imbrandon | it will hang untill the log is fully opened | 02:07 |
| imbrandon | thats known there just isnt a dialog saying so | 02:08 |
| ryanakca | kk | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | :) thanks though ;0 | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | btw ryanakca amarok is posted too ;) | 02:10 |
| ryanakca | on your repos? | 02:10 |
| ryanakca | sweet | 02:10 |
| imbrandon | yup just add a line with "amarok" instead of "konversation-nightly" | 02:10 |
| ryanakca | or add "amarok" to the end of the line? | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | yea ;) | 02:11 |
| ryanakca | now... I don't want to sound impatient or anything... but can you review eqonomize for me while I'm gone? I'll be back tommorow sometime :) | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | sure | 02:21 |
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| imbrandon | kwwii: ping | 02:36 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: pong | 02:36 |
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| imbrandon | heya someon just sent art to the ML that i was gonna ask you about, maybe me and him can collaborate and take some load off ya , heres the deal ..... | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | you know all the html start pages for akrogaots kmail konq etc | 02:37 |
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| imbrandon | he was asking about those, and i was wondering the same thin, i can get him on irc and we can get it all changed and i can send patches to riddell if you are working on other stuff | 02:38 |
| kwwii | Riddell: kubuntu_ksplash.tar.gz | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | if thats cool by you, basicly leaving them the same just "purpleizing them" | 02:39 |
| kwwii | Riddell: kwin-style-crystal_kensPics.tar.gz | 02:39 |
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| kwwii | imbrandon: we should definitely change them | 02:39 |
| kwwii | make them purple | 02:39 |
| kwwii | I wanted to do that after the guidance stuff | 02:39 |
| kwwii | need to make the interface pics for guidance too | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | ok is there an rgb value you have we can use in the html ? | 02:40 |
| kwwii | yes, check the kcsrc (http://bootsplash.org/ku-two.kcsrc | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | ok | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | i'll reply to him asking him to pop in irc and colab | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | i'll see what we can get done for you today | 02:41 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: cool, I started a mail to the list to respond to his | 02:43 |
| kwwii | killler, that would be excellent! | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | k just replyd with ... | 02:44 |
| imbrandon | Heya Nathan, yes they sure are getting "purpleized" , Ken and Riddell and I were working on just that infact on IRC and would welcome the help, stop on by #kubuntu-devel on freenode and we'll all get togather and tackle this today ;) | 02:44 |
| imbrandon | add what ever else you want ;) | 02:44 |
| Riddell | ? | 02:44 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ? | 02:45 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:45 |
| Riddell | oh I'm with you now | 02:45 |
| yuriy | Riddell: i'm in MA, USA (so you asked at 4am) | 02:45 |
| Riddell | yuriy: US citizenship too? | 02:45 |
| Riddell | (google wants to know) | 02:45 |
| kwwii | damn americans | 02:45 |
| yuriy | Riddell: yeah | 02:45 |
| Riddell | yuriy: thanks | 02:46 |
| kwwii | (myself being american as well) | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: hehe did you get the url with amarok ? kamoin approved it pending you giving it a spin ;) | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | hehe kwwii | 02:46 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: yes, it's next on my todo list | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | np , no worries just making sure it got to ya | 02:47 |
| imbrandon | maybe by the edgy+1 dev sprint i'll be in -core-dev and wont bug you quite as much hehehe | 02:48 |
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| kwwii_ | Riddell: kwin-style-crystal_kensPics.tar.gz | 02:52 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: they're mean and nasty over that, be careful :P | 02:54 |
| imbrandon | hehehehe ;P | 02:55 |
| imbrandon | gah | 02:55 |
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| seaLne | how do i integrate a changelog from debian when i'm not applying the thing that it does (k3b rpath)? | 03:09 |
| imbrandon | hrm seaLne no idea | 03:12 |
| imbrandon | i think i'm gonna take a small 1 hour nap, i woke up too early , see yall in just a little while | 03:13 |
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| seaLne | are the dapper-changes mails about backports mean proper backports are working | 03:27 |
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| imbrandon | yea proper backports are working now | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | a few things have already been pushed this moringn | 03:28 |
| seaLne | i wonder why k3b was picked | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | because it already had a report against it? | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | there was a backport report for it | 03:29 |
| seaLne | where are backport reports? | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | kbfx got push finaly too | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | seaLne: anyone can file htem as long as you test and provide the right info and get a MOTU or -core-dev to ack it | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: malone | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | then backport team looks it over | 03:30 |
| seaLne | Hobbsee: yeah but how do i see them? | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | they are bugs againts the product dapper-backports | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | check what's subscribed to ubuntu-backporters | 03:30 |
| freeflying | just back from oss meeting in China, ubuntu attended | 03:30 |
| seaLne | Hobbsee: ta | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: nice! how'dit go? | 03:31 |
| imbrandon | seaLne: https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs | 03:31 |
| seaLne | yeah it was the "product dapper-backports" i didn't know | 03:31 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: ubuntu's topic is great, hehe, but the time is too short | 03:32 |
| freeflying | imbrandon: seaLne hi | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | heay freeflying | 03:32 |
| seaLne | freeflying: hiya | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | brb i'm gonna take that nap | 03:32 |
| freeflying | seaLne: sorry, I owe you traslation :P | 03:33 |
| seaLne | freeflying: yeah :) and the previous ones disapeared | 03:33 |
| freeflying | seaLne: why? | 03:34 |
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| seaLne | the website changed to a wiki | 03:34 |
| imbrandon | hello nathan | 03:34 |
| seaLne | the website you had them on | 03:34 |
| n8k99 | hi there ready for purpleizing | 03:34 |
| n8k99 | btw brandon - did you build amarok 142 for ppc? | 03:35 |
| freeflying | seaLne: I see, :) | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | heh ;) i was just heading out for about an hour, maybe less, kwwii_ ( a.k.a ken ) is here too | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: its building now | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | it will be uploaded in a bit | 03:35 |
| n8k99 | sweet! | 03:35 |
| Riddell | "Backports resurrected" yay! | 03:36 |
| n8k99 | so which image should i get started with purpling | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | anyhow as i was saying i'm heading out for about an hour, gather what you have done so far and we'll get this knocked out ;) | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: lets start with konq | 03:36 |
| kwwii_ | hi nathan | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: i'll do the html stuff and you can handel the images ok ? | 03:37 |
| n8k99 | hi kwwii | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | anyhow bbiab | 03:37 |
| n8k99 | ok | 03:37 |
| kwwii_ | see you imbrandon | 03:37 |
| kwwii_ | thanks to both of you :-) | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | Riddell: ya yay\0/ , that was the first mail i woke upto this morning | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | i was happy | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah! :D | 03:38 |
| === imbrandon dosent have to worry about a broken kbfx in dapper anymore | ||
| === Hobbsee started seeing the bug reports and went "what on earth? COOL!!! | ||
| Hobbsee | : | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | *" | 03:38 |
| imbrandon | n8k99: my ppc compile box is kinda slow ( 800mhz ) it will be done and uploaded in about 2 hours ( but i'll ping you too when it is ) | 03:39 |
| Riddell | //////dddddddddddd | 03:39 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon_: yay! | 03:40 |
| === Hobbsee hides Riddell's keyboard | ||
| === imbrandon hides the cat on Riddell keyboard | ||
| Hobbsee | meow! | 03:41 |
| n8k99 | is there a website/wiki entry with rgb numbers for how purple things are to be? | 03:41 |
| Riddell | n8k99: http://bootsplash.org/ku-two.kcsrc | 03:41 |
| imbrandon | [07:39] <imbrandon> ok is there an rgb value you have we can use in the html ? | 03:42 |
| imbrandon | [07:40] <kwwii> yes, check the kcsrc (http://bootsplash.org/ku-two.kcsrc | 03:42 |
| imbrandon | [07:40] <imbrandon> ok | 03:42 |
| imbrandon | heh | 03:42 |
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| n8k99 | i'm sorry what was that lauchpad link again - little crash over here | 03:45 |
| Riddell | 14:42 < imbrandon> [07:40] <kwwii> yes, check the kcsrc (http://bootsplash.org/ku-two.kcsrc | 03:45 |
| n8k99 | thanks | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, yeah! | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what are your thoughts on backporting kopete? | 03:46 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes please | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what happens with the kopete in kdenetwork? | 03:47 |
| Riddell | it doesn't get made | 03:47 |
| Riddell | I think for kde 3.5.5 it'll be kopete 0.12.2 | 03:47 |
| Riddell | but we won't use it | 03:47 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| Hobbsee | Riddell: so what about the current dapper versions? version it as kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 or something? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | same as it is in edgy with ~dapper1 | 03:50 |
| Riddell | the backports team will care about that | 03:50 |
| Riddell | we just care that it compiles | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:53 |
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| abattoir_ | Riddell: oem-config works properly now. :) | 03:54 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: rock! | 03:58 |
| Riddell | abattoir: is your bzr archive up to te? | 03:58 |
| Riddell | date? | 03:58 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: nope, i'll do it now... | 03:58 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i just found a couple of bugs though :( | 03:58 |
| Riddell | abattoir: thanks, I'll try and look at that after I do amarok | 03:59 |
| abattoir | Riddell: hitting back in the 2nd step changes dbfilter to None... | 03:59 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu4ever.png | 03:59 |
| abattoir | Riddell: and in the last step, the UI closes even if the password/verify password entries arent the same... | 04:00 |
| abattoir | Riddell: i'll try to fix those and then upload. | 04:00 |
| Riddell | cool | 04:01 |
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| seaLne | does anyone know anything about movix? | 04:13 |
| Riddell | not I | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | definetly not i | 04:16 |
| === Hobbsee knows nothing about anything :P | ||
| Hobbsee | hence i should not be interviewed! :P | 04:16 |
| Riddell | yay, interview Hobbsee! | 04:16 |
| Riddell | who's interviewing Hobbsee? | 04:17 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: some people at SLUG are wanting to | 04:17 |
| === seaLne sulks | ||
| Riddell | ah yes, slug, their IRC channel always used to confuse me when I was trying to find the Scottish LUG irc channel | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:17 |
| Sime | S=Sydney? | 04:17 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: what sort of interview? | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: one in person, i think | 04:18 |
| Riddell | so not quite the same as behindubuntu | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, would be a spoken interview | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | dont give those behindubuntu people ideas! :P | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | Sime: yes | 04:19 |
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| n8k99 | i think i have a purple png for konqi | 04:30 |
| n8k99 | where do you want me to put it? | 04:31 |
| seaLne | Riddell: http://geeksoc.org/~kd/k3b | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | well, send it to imbrandon and myself | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | or post it to the ubuntu-artwork list | 04:31 |
| Riddell | hmm, two branches of k3b | 04:33 |
| seaLne | ? | 04:33 |
| seaLne | oops KDE | 04:34 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ok fixing | 04:35 |
| Riddell | :) | 04:37 |
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| viper550 | Hello everyone1 | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 04:42 |
| viper550 | Sorry, that 1 was supposed to be a "!" | 04:42 |
| seaLne | Riddell: http://geeksoc.org/~kd/k3b | 04:42 |
| viper550 | I've noticed that alot of people have been disapointed about Kubuntu once they load up a GTK app like Firefox and notice it looks very ugly | 04:42 |
| n8k99 | imbrandon_: hey let me know if this will work https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=top-right-konqueror.png | 04:43 |
| Riddell | seaLne: I'm onto it | 04:43 |
| seaLne | viper550: well use KDE apps rather than the ugly GTK ones | 04:43 |
| viper550 | In the words of Paris Hilton, that's hot! | 04:43 |
| viper550 | Also, some people just prefer Firefox over Konqueror... | 04:44 |
| n8k99 | who is paris talking to? | 04:44 |
| seaLne | n8k99: is the mouse pointer on the globe part of it? | 04:44 |
| viper550 | I'm talking about the new purple graphic, looks hot! | 04:44 |
| n8k99 | yeah - i just took the original png as is in my dapper and made some color shifts with the gimp | 04:45 |
| seaLne | strange never noticed it before :) | 04:45 |
| n8k99 | no actual work was done!! | 04:45 |
| n8k99 | neither had i | 04:45 |
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| n8k99 | but each app, kmail, aggregakor, etc has its own little icon there | 04:46 |
| n8k99 | the globe is part of konqi's | 04:46 |
| Hobbsee | viper550: true that. it doesnt acutally build with a qt engine at all, or didnt. there are a few packages that make it look more kde-ish though | 04:46 |
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| Hobbsee | they actually look mostly kde-ish :D | 04:46 |
| n8k99 | which other app should i work on now? | 04:47 |
| viper550 | I think my idea is to use a brand new theme called QtCurve, I'm working on a mockup with it right now! | 04:47 |
| Riddell | viper550: better to port plastik to gtk | 04:48 |
| viper550 | Man, Konversation is such a memory hog... | 04:48 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: hey ! | 04:49 |
| Riddell | Tonio_! | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is the switch to plastik causing an issue ? | 04:49 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: dunno, not tried it yet | 04:49 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: comment ca va kio-locate? | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | well, I'm using firefox here and didn't look anything special | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | looks normal, meaning beatifull kde style and horrible gtk dialog boxes ;) | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kio-locate has been uploaded this night | 04:50 |
| Riddell | cool | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | since I got my key back | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | I'm trying to understand that deadkey bug on qt | 04:50 |
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| Riddell | I saw that in a magazine here | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the deadkey problem ? | 04:51 |
| Riddell | I think so, but not speaking german I didn't see any more than deadkey, qt and kcontrol | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | sure. the point is that english speaking people will not see it, but for most european languages, that a pain... | 04:52 |
| Riddell | oui | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell is in he's french day ;) | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | on va faire comme a Riddell. Tout en Franais aujourd'hui | 04:53 |
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| Riddell | well all the germans here are talking in german and I can't understand them, so if I talk in French they can't understand me | 04:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: aren't german supposed to be good in english ? | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | ...so they should just all speak english and be done with it. | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: no, german and english arent really compatible | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | i found, anyway... | 04:55 |
| Tonio_ | afaik they are better than french to speak other languages :) | 04:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: you can't imagin the french people then | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: true that. the only person i know who speaks a bit of french is my mother. | 04:56 |
| bddebian | Howdy | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 04:56 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ho !!! then can'T understand you :) I missed the "t" :) | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | yop bddebian | 04:56 |
| bddebian | Heya Tonio_, Riddell | 04:56 |
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| viper550 | Hello again... | 05:00 |
| Riddell | seaLne: "apart from RPATH" why apart from it? | 05:01 |
| seaLne | you said not to | 05:01 |
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| Riddell | no, I said we want to not have rpath | 05:02 |
| seaLne | the "sync" consisted of copying the changelog | 05:02 |
| Viper550 | Okay, wondering another reason I suggest switching to QtCurve as our theme? | 05:02 |
| Riddell | Viper550: we don't want a gnome theme as our default theme | 05:03 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ok to clarify the RPATH changes *should* go in then? | 05:03 |
| n8k99 | is plastik a gnome theme? | 05:03 |
| Viper550 | It's not a Gnome theme, it's a KDE style, but it can also be dynamically applied to GTK applications | 05:03 |
| Riddell | seaLne: correct. we're getting confused with double negatives here :) | 05:03 |
| n8k99 | oh - i usually use baghira | 05:03 |
| Riddell | seaLne: their change removes rpath from k3b, which is a good thing that we want | 05:04 |
| Viper550 | But also, it has alot of options for configuration | 05:04 |
| Riddell | n8k99: plastik is the KDE theme | 05:04 |
| seaLne | Riddell: *grumble* :) | 05:04 |
| Riddell | seaLne: I can add the rpath change, it's very small | 05:04 |
| Riddell | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-k3b/k3b/trunk/debian/rules?op=diff&rev=0&sc=1 yes? | 05:04 |
| Viper550 | I've got it with a very nice gloss motif! | 05:04 |
| n8k99 | Riddell: i switched to that today to work | 05:05 |
| seaLne | Riddell: yeah | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | Viper550: really, why not go with whatever looks best? | 05:05 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ok i can easily do it | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | as long as it's not a straight gnome theme :P | 05:05 |
| Viper550 | It does look best. It's not a straight Gnome theme, the GTK engine part is optional. | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | mind you, they dont tend to look very nice anyway, so i suspect we're pretty safe | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | Viper550: screenshot? | 05:05 |
| Viper550 | Let me fire up Ksnapshot... | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | Viper550: and if it could be applied to GTK apps, does that mean it gets applied to ff and the like, by default? | 05:06 |
| Viper550 | Yes. | 05:06 |
| Viper550 | The QtCurve GTK theme reads the configuration from the QtCurve KDE theme, making it look almost exactly the same! | 05:06 |
| n8k99 | finished with the default images in /konqueror/about/ | 05:07 |
| n8k99 | put them on my launchpad page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NathanEckenrode#preview | 05:07 |
| Viper550 | Just let me post the screenshot to Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | n8k99: the left one looks pretty | 05:08 |
| n8k99 | thanks | 05:09 |
| n8k99 | ima try to make that for all the apps | 05:09 |
| Viper550 | I just committed my QtCurve screenshot to the Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas page | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | Viper550: link? | 05:14 |
| === Hobbsee is lazy. | ||
| Viper550 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas | 05:14 |
| === Hobbsee wonders when qt curve went in edgy anyway. | ||
| Viper550 | Man, is it me, or is the wiki slow today? | 05:15 |
| Riddell | seaLne: I've done it, recompiling to make sure it doesn't break | 05:15 |
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| Viper550 | Or just plain: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=qtcurve_keramik.png | 05:15 |
| n8k99 | that page has lots of data on it, what with full sized wallpapers and such | 05:16 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ok | 05:16 |
| Viper550 | (if you don't like loading) | 05:16 |
| seaLne | Riddell: did you just delete the apart from rpath bit in the changelog? | 05:16 |
| Riddell | yes | 05:16 |
| Riddell | and added those chrpath lines | 05:16 |
| seaLne | and to configure? | 05:17 |
| Viper550 | So, you like it? | 05:17 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: ping ? | 05:17 |
| Riddell | Viper550: ug | 05:18 |
| Viper550 | Why ugh? | 05:19 |
| Viper550 | Is Keramik not in style anymore? | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | interesting | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | i swear those buttons look like KDE 1 or KDE 2 though. | 05:20 |
| Viper550 | Actually, KDE 3.0, Plastik didn't come til 3.2 I think... | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | never used kde 3.0 :P | 05:20 |
| Viper550 | Keremik still comes with KDE 3.x | 05:21 |
| n8k99 | i think that the window decoration and the menu background run together too much | 05:21 |
| n8k99 | maybe if the menu bar were more grey/purple | 05:21 |
| Viper550 | But, that's the point! | 05:21 |
| === Hobbsee grabs the old colours. | ||
| === Hobbsee likes the bluey/purple of them more. | ||
| Hobbsee | that's what i was thinking of when i asked for purple :) | 05:22 |
| Viper550 | The effect just doesn't work very good with Crystal | 05:22 |
| n8k99 | i like the tone level - just not the real-estate covered | 05:22 |
| Viper550 | Would it work if the colors were a bit different? | 05:23 |
| n8k99 | i think it would work if there were two tones for the different areas | 05:24 |
| n8k99 | dark shade on win deco and lighter for menu bg | 05:24 |
| Viper550 | Are the different areas the main background and the "bubble" with the title? | 05:24 |
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| kwwii_ | Tonio_: ping? | 05:26 |
| Riddell | seaLne: k3b uploaded, thanks | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | hey kwwii_! | 05:26 |
| kwwii_ | howdy Hobbsee | 05:26 |
| kwwii_ | Hobbsee: so after googling for you name, I cannot find a picture of you! how in the world did you pull off doing sooo much work for kubuntu and not having one pic of yourself anywhere? | 05:26 |
| Riddell | seaLne: you can close the bug, and it might be a candidate to backport if you have time to see if it comopiles on dapper | 05:27 |
| seaLne | yeah it was bad timing that .16 got into backports | 05:27 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: we need to change the knotes default settings from "fancy style" to "plain style" ... could you take care of that? | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: did you find much under my real name, btw? | 05:27 |
| kwwii_ | Hobbsee: nothing that tells me it is you | 05:28 |
| kwwii_ | Hobbsee: unless you are a famous old woman | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: true that - that's because i tend to keep my real name pretty quiet, and my image | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | hehe - i'm no artist, that's for sure | 05:28 |
| kwwii_ | heheh | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: the reason i keep such things quiet is because of things like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eHv5TU23.html | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | a couple of pics are at | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9838/hobbseecar10ii.jpg | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3909/hobbseecar22fk.jpg | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I already did in the past but Riddell rejected that hehe :) | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: now you can decide, I'll do this, yes | 05:30 |
| Tonio_ | I hate the fancy style og knotes | 05:30 |
| Viper550 | Nice Car, now if only we could make Kubuntu look as good as it! :D | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee | Viper550: hehe. it's a nice car when it *goes* | 05:31 |
| Viper550 | ...used... | 05:32 |
| kwwii_ | Hobbsee: those are very nice pics :-) | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: thankyou | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: did you read the log? | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: and now do you understand why i tend to keep such things quiet? | 05:33 |
| kwwii_ | http://rafb.net/paste/results/eHv5TU23.html does not work | 05:33 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: ahh... | 05:33 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: please, if you can, change it | 05:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't remember discussing knotes ever | 05:34 |
| kwwii_ | nothing worse than a forgetfull scotsman with poor taste in art :p | 05:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we didn't discuss this, but you removed it from a debdiff I sent to you :) | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: http://pastebin.ca/147678 | 05:35 |
| Tonio_ | maybe the fact we never discussed this is the reason you didn't accept hehe ;) | 05:35 |
| Viper550 | Knotes handbook does have the blue graphics... | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: didnt realise raft.net killed off pastes so quick | 05:35 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 05:35 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: concerning the yellow color, maybe we can change it a bit | 05:35 |
| Viper550 | But, Sticky Notes are supposed to be Yellow! | 05:35 |
| kwwii_ | Hobbsee: as long as you don't talk about my man boobs I won't mention the word again :p | 05:36 |
| kwwii_ | don't worry, /me is married with child | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: heh. it's more the fact that that stuff happens at all, which is why i tend to keep all of those details relatively quiet | 05:37 |
| kwwii_ | yeah, that is freaky | 05:37 |
| === Hobbsee has only ever pasted links to her image in here and -motu before, iirc. | ||
| kwwii_ | I cannot imagine someone doing that | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: not that abnormal. | 05:37 |
| kwwii_ | thank god I am not a woman :-) | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | hah! | 05:38 |
| Viper550 | So, think the Keramik+QtCurve idea is a good one? | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | /rant | 05:38 |
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| Viper550 | Or, I could try and make an overlay for Crystal to make the gradient look like it... | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | heya jdong|coreduo | 05:38 |
| kwwii_ | Viper550: well, Keramik was default for kde a long time ago, so I know that we will not want to use that | 05:38 |
| jdong|coreduo | hey Hobbsee | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | jdong|coreduo: i warn you now, i want to backport kopete ;) | 05:38 |
| jdong|coreduo | lol | 05:38 |
| jdong|coreduo | is it possible for us to bump k3b's kdelibs4-dev deps back down | 05:39 |
| Viper550 | But, I actually think it looks a bit better than Plastik, Plastik is boring and conservative, and Crystal's buttons are all whacked up | 05:39 |
| jdong|coreduo | so it'd backport? | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | jdong|coreduo: dont know yet | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | i would think so | 05:39 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 05:39 |
| Viper550 | It's original and creative! Also, it looks nice with the Crystal icons | 05:40 |
| kwwii_ | Viper550: the style kinda looks like winXP media center edition widgets | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: want to keep the original color or no ? | 05:40 |
| Viper550 | Tonio_: So, you are comparing it to Royale? | 05:40 |
| Tonio_ | Viper550: ? | 05:40 |
| kwwii_ | Viper550: actually, we are working on a new style, which is being made by the person who made keramik and it looks pretty nice | 05:40 |
| Viper550 | Royale is the offical name for that theme. | 05:40 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: I think we can change the color too, let me test it | 05:41 |
| Viper550 | Hold it, are there any pictures yet? | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: sure | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | !info libgadu-dev | 05:41 |
| ubotu | libgadu-dev: Gadu-Gadu protocol library - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6+20051103-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 123 kB, installed size 536 kB | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | !info ekiga | 05:41 |
| ubotu | ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | !info libslp-dev | 05:42 |
| ubotu | libslp-dev: OpenSLP development libraries. In component main, is extra. Version 1.2.1-5 (dapper), package size 60 kB, installed size 244 kB | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | jdong|coreduo: i would expect it to backport, i'll test build overnight | 05:42 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: can you change the bg color? in my version I change the color in the settings but it does not actually change anything | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: yes I can | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | #FFFFB5 | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | I like this colour | 05:43 |
| jdong|coreduo | Hobbsee: k3b backports fine, as long as the kdelibs4-dev dep is relaxed | 05:43 |
| jdong|coreduo | and from what I see, it was tightened for Edgy-specific build reasons | 05:43 |
| Tonio_ | yellow too, but by far better for the eyes | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | !info kdelibs4-dev | 05:44 |
| ubotu | kdelibs4-dev: development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 1320 kB, installed size 7516 kB | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.0) is the dep. | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: once background is changed, create a new note to see the colour | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | shouldnt be a problem... | 05:44 |
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| carsten | Viper550: are you really expecting us to answer within 30 seconds? | 05:45 |
| Viper550 | No. | 05:45 |
| carsten | good :) | 05:45 |
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| Viper550 | I'll wait as long as I have to... | 05:45 |
| seaLne | jdong|coreduo: don't bother backporting the new k3b yet i have a few things i'm going to fix in it bug wise | 05:46 |
| jdong|coreduo | seaLne: alright | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: here are the settings I use for knotes : http://planetemu.net/temp/capture1.png | 05:46 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: nice | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: as for bugs i'd like to kill off. i'd like to get printing* fixed, the mounting fixed including floppy disks, etc - all mounted as intended, i'd like to see kdesu work all the time (dotn know if we'll get that one, if it's an ustream problem), | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes, that's hudge, but these are the most major bugs | 05:48 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: funny, enough that is almost exactly the color I picked :-) | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | kdesu fails the first time you launch an app, I don't understand why | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yes, exactly | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: that's the stuff that if we have time/people/expertise to throw at them, i'd like to see fixed the most | 05:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: let's prepare a wikipage toonight are you okay ? | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: depends when tonight is - i'm going to go to bed pretty soon - it's almsot 2am again | 05:49 |
| Tonio_ | there are very long time bugs that really to get love :) | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | yes, definetly | 05:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: okay, what time is it for you ? | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | @time sydney | 05:50 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Australia/Sydney: August 25 2006, 01:50:09 | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ^ almost 2am | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: let's use this maybe ? | 05:50 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: definitely | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | if we could sort media:/ stuff out too, that'd be cool | 05:50 |
| kwwii_ | :-) | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: argh..... okay let's rediscuss this tomorrow then :) | 05:50 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hehe, okay | 05:50 |
| === Hobbsee is suddenly brainstorming this stuff. | ||
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i could think about it over work :) | 05:51 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: my boss will like that :) | 05:51 |
| Hobbsee | (shudder. my boss will be there. eek) | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: great then ;) | 05:51 |
| Hobbsee | (and she wont be happy with me due to me not going into work today, too. double eek) | 05:51 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 05:51 |
| Hobbsee | anyway, bedtime. i shall see how kopete behaves in the morning | 05:53 |
| Viper550 | I'm going to try and make some mods to Keremik | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning all those mounting issues (sata devices and floppy), shouldn't we contact kevin ottens maybe ? | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | because we don't have that much time before the release now.... | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | he is the most acknoledge for this | 06:05 |
| freeflying | Riddell: Guidance Power Manager will show on a desktop install | 06:06 |
| freeflying | Riddell: is this a bug? | 06:06 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: will it ? | 06:07 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: ya, a desktop installed edgy show it in system tray | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: afaik, klaptop was a kde service just because of this | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: indeed that's not very nice | 06:09 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: sure, so I wanna know is that a bug | 06:10 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: only Riddell can answer :) | 06:10 |
| freeflying | Tonio_: seems Riddell not around now :) | 06:11 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii_: kds uploaded | 06:12 |
| kwwii_ | cool :-) thanks! | 06:12 |
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| freeflying | amarok-1.4.2 for ppc is ready, anyone need? | 06:13 |
| freeflying | imbrandon: ping | 06:13 |
| kwwii_ | freeflying: I could try it out :-) | 06:14 |
| freeflying | kwwii_: how can I give you :) | 06:14 |
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| n8k99 | imbrandon_: check out this work please https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NathanEckenrode | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Lots of work has been done on debian's qt package... | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | I'm trying it since it might resolve lots of issues, and more than this related to fonts (arabic mostly) | 06:29 |
| Tonio_ | we have a launchpad bug concerning this | 06:29 |
| kwwii_ | n8k99: the kmail header seems to have a lighter purple than the rest (which is better) | 06:32 |
| kwwii_ | not sure exactly how purple we should make them | 06:33 |
| n8k99 | i had some trouble matching tones cause i closed my .xcf for konqi b4 i started the others | 06:33 |
| n8k99 | ;( | 06:33 |
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| n8k99 | must take daughter 2 playground bbs | 06:39 |
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| exobuzz | the current edgy kdm look is excellent! Much better than the heavy purple | 06:45 |
| exobuzz | and i like the default kde background too. its quite unusual colouring, but it works | 06:45 |
| exobuzz | one thing i'm not keen on is the kde fonts. they look autohinted so bold fonts look really bad (much too bold). would that be a settings within kde or with fontconfig (i have set fontconfig to not use hinting.. so i assume its in the kde config ?) | 06:47 |
| kwwii_ | do you mean in kde or in kdm? | 06:47 |
| exobuzz | in kde.. kdm fonts look fine | 06:48 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, on your machine :-) | 06:48 |
| exobuzz | i really prefer how fonts looked in dapper/breezy etc | 06:48 |
| kwwii_ | I am not sure that anything changed | 06:48 |
| exobuzz | hmm.. maybe something weird is going on with fontconfig.. | 06:49 |
| kwwii_ | there appear to be problems there, but it should be fixed before release | 06:49 |
| exobuzz | anyway.. is the kdm look/feel just a test? or is this approved. i love it.. | 06:49 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, I approved it today :-) | 06:50 |
| exobuzz | great! | 06:50 |
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| kwwii_ | I will still test some different bg ideas though | 06:50 |
| kwwii_ | different color gradients in that same pics | 06:50 |
| kwwii_ | s/pics'/pic | 06:50 |
| exobuzz | there was a small glitch with the right of the screen during the kde loading phase. it had a piece of the kde background there. but i need to check again | 06:50 |
| exobuzz | im a glasses wearer, so you can't trust everything i say :D | 06:51 |
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| exobuzz | ive got to kill x a moment. i want to gaze at kdm's beauty again... | 06:52 |
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| exobuzz | yup.. :D | 06:54 |
| kwwii_ | I am really happy to hear that you like it :-) | 06:54 |
| Sime | Tonio_: pong | 06:56 |
| exobuzz | i dont have usplash running. are there any example gfx on the wiki or mockups how it will look ? | 06:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we already have a patch for arabic fonts | 06:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: but sure, if there's good stuff in debian we should merge | 06:58 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I've not yet found the best way to work out if power manager should show, I may well use just laptop-detect | 06:59 |
| kwwii_ | ok, /me is out | 06:59 |
| kwwii_ | bye all | 06:59 |
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| exobuzz | bye | 06:59 |
| Riddell | exobuzz: you just made kwwii's day :) | 07:00 |
| exobuzz | :) | 07:00 |
| exobuzz | i hope usplash look will be livened up a little bit too.. | 07:01 |
| exobuzz | i mean.. it needs a balance between being informative too.. | 07:02 |
| Riddell | there's a new high-res usplash but we don't know if it'll stay because it might break some syste | 07:03 |
| Riddell | systems | 07:03 |
| exobuzz | i have usplash off as the first time i booted it displayed and then froze :/ | 07:04 |
| exobuzz | need to retest though.. | 07:04 |
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| Riddell | that'll be the sort of problem then : | 07:05 |
| Riddell | :) | 07:05 |
| exobuzz | :) | 07:05 |
| exobuzz | probably the laptops fault. like most laptops designed for windows, the bios is quite broken | 07:05 |
| exobuzz | the kubuntu wiki is very slow :/ | 07:10 |
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| Sime | Riddell: ping | 07:24 |
| Sime | so, who *is* here. | 07:32 |
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| Sime | seaLne: were you having a problem with blank CDs being mounted? | 07:50 |
| seaLne | yes | 07:50 |
| Sime | I put a blank CD in just then, and it wasn't automatically mounted. | 07:51 |
| seaLne | it didn't show up when you typed mount? | 07:51 |
| seaLne | just checking we were testing the same sort of way | 07:52 |
| Sime | ok, disk inserted..... waiting. | 07:53 |
| Sime | it appeared in system:/media as a blank CD. | 07:53 |
| Sime | mount says that it is not mounted. | 07:54 |
| Sime | kde's mediamanager also says that it is not mounted. | 07:54 |
| Sime | this is a CD-R. | 07:54 |
| seaLne | i was using a cdrw, just blanking and i'll test again in a min | 07:54 |
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| seaLne | weird its not doing it today | 07:57 |
| Sime | BTW, if you try to open a blank CD in system:/media/ or media:/, it will get automatically mounted. | 07:58 |
| seaLne | it happened to me 3 times yesterday | 07:59 |
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| seaLne | i guess forget about it | 08:00 |
| Sime | media:/ mounts things on-demand. WHile the new kio patches mount things after they are inserted, except for blank disks. | 08:03 |
| Sime | so there is a slight difference in behaviour there. | 08:03 |
| seaLne | btw is there a way to stop that? i hardly ever read cds and mainly just burn things to cdrw so having to unmount is annoying | 08:04 |
| seaLne | not that thats very normal usage :) | 08:05 |
| Sime | why do you need to unmount? (the eject button on you drive should work ok) | 08:07 |
| seaLne | to burn a cd | 08:07 |
| seaLne | cdrw | 08:07 |
| seaLne | i suppose this would infact cause problems for anyone reusing a cdrw | 08:09 |
| mornfall | it also will cause problems if you want to copy a cd | 08:09 |
| Sime | possibly. | 08:09 |
| mornfall | 1:1 | 08:09 |
| allee | FWIW: in breezy we also had automount and I hated it. Don | 08:10 |
| allee | The dialog in dapper was fine IMHO | 08:10 |
| seaLne | i think the popup was good, if users wanted to allways automount they could tick the box | 08:10 |
| mornfall | i don't like popups, would prefer to see an icon appearing (for me in kicker, for many people on desktop) :-) | 08:11 |
| Sime | mornfall: you can easily set that up. | 08:11 |
| mornfall | probably :) | 08:11 |
| Sime | mornfall: add the "Storage Media" applet to your kicker | 08:11 |
| allee | mornfall: icons are too hiden. And using RMB to get an action list if even more hidden. | 08:12 |
| mornfall | well, clicking it should mount+show :) | 08:12 |
| mornfall | and things should umount themselves when you stop using them (ala autofs) | 08:13 |
| Sime | allee, mornfall : you two should really check out the "Storage Media" applet | 08:13 |
| mornfall | Sime: i personally don't care much, just trying to hypothesize of best default UI ;-) | 08:13 |
| seaLne | it looks quite nice | 08:13 |
| allee | mornfall: well, one may want to mount or reformat (k3b of kformat) an RW media | 08:13 |
| mornfall | allee: well, yes | 08:13 |
| mornfall | that would be a nice thing to be able to do from konq on a mounted medium | 08:14 |
| allee | Sime: doesn't storage media applet just open(ed) konqy with media:/ now /media? | 08:14 |
| mornfall | click the thing and have the actions as well as content handy | 08:14 |
| Sime | storage media applet isn't patched yet. (Working on it!) | 08:14 |
| allee | You mean 'system menu' kicker button, then 'Storage media' item will habe submenu (devices) and subsub menues (actions) ? | 08:16 |
| Sime | there are two applets. The system menu and the storage media. Both need patching. | 08:17 |
| Sime | system menu is the HOme, Storage Media, Remote Places, Trash etc applet. | 08:18 |
| Sime | Lure wants the storage media one too. | 08:18 |
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| allee | Sime: will your patches version somehow handle the case of several partitions better? E.g,. inserting an USB disk with 6 partitions floods desktop with dialogs and the old 'media action dialog' shows not enough info which partition it is :( | 08:22 |
| Sime | I've need seen a USB disk with multipe partitions... | 08:23 |
| Sime | i know it is possible. | 08:23 |
| allee | but most annoying is that an dialog does not go away when an medium is removed | 08:23 |
| allee | Sime: come to my office. And I show you some of them ;) | 08:23 |
| Sime | that's a bit of an extreme case though. | 08:24 |
| Sime | which is my polite way of saying "It ain't high on my TODO list buddy!" | 08:24 |
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| allee | yeap, but even with 2 or 3 which happened with some USB sticks we bought, multiple dialog are hard to identify (no tool tip, no device name, mime-type etc info anywhere) | 08:25 |
| allee | Sime: fair enough;) As long as it's nibbling in the back of your head ;) | 08:26 |
| Sime | :) | 08:27 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: ping ping ping :| | 08:45 |
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| apachelogger | anyway | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: 354 for dapper is having a dep issue: kdelibs4c2a depends on cupsys2 >= 1.2.1, but dapper only ships 1.2.0 | 08:52 |
| crimsun | do you have dapper-updates enabled? | 09:03 |
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| Tuxist | hi | 09:19 |
| Tuxist | is a amarok developer here | 09:20 |
| Tuxist | packager sorry | 09:20 |
| fdoving | Tuxist: danimo and imbrandon i think. | 09:22 |
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| Tuxist | i have been made new amarok 14.2 packages with helix, libmtp, smb and nfs support based on imbrandon packages | 09:23 |
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| apachelogger | crimsun: hehe, a user having that problem - though - YOUR DA KING :D | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: forget about it ;-) | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: and hobbsee | 09:27 |
| Tuxist | ftp://tuxist.de/Bildschirmphoto8.png | 09:29 |
| apachelogger | bildschirm is always good :D | 09:29 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: smb and nfs support? | 09:30 |
| fdoving | apachelogger: ok, copy that :) | 09:30 |
| Tuxist | yes | 09:30 |
| Tuxist | i upload the packages at this moment | 09:30 |
| apachelogger | what for smb and nfs support? | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | or actually, how smb and nfs support? | 09:31 |
| Tuxist | since 1.4.2 | 09:31 |
| Tuxist | libmtp is recommend for my packages | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: still don't get that | 09:32 |
| fdoving | isn't smb and nfs handled with the kio slaves? | 09:33 |
| Tuxist | ftp://tuxist.de/edgy/libmtp | 09:33 |
| Tuxist | amarok is uploading | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: neither xine nor helix nor nmm do support kio | 09:33 |
| Tuxist | i have in moment only amd64 packages | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | so only mounted nfs or smb will work | 09:34 |
| fdoving | apachelogger: so, amarok has a proxy thing? | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | oha | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: does have, though I think the kio stuff is not throwing through it | 09:34 |
| fdoving | ok. | 09:35 |
| fdoving | i actually don't use amarok anymore. | 09:35 |
| fdoving | mpd+kmp fits my usage better. | 09:36 |
| apachelogger | you'd think different if I would get nmm to build properly | 09:36 |
| apachelogger | I think I'll just rape the nmm package in case it ever gets finished ;-) | 09:37 |
| fdoving | nmm ? | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | <Amarok> * nmm = http://www.networkmultimedia.org/ [added by: apachelog] | 09:38 |
| Tuxist | ok i change this | 09:39 |
| fdoving | i like that i can start MPD on the machine connected to the stereo.. and start clients from all computers in the network. | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: nmm is basically doing the same, just that it's better and has an amarok engine :P | 09:40 |
| fdoving | sounds nice. | 09:41 |
| fdoving | can you easily have console-clients and webinterfaces too like mpd? | 09:41 |
| apachelogger | I at least think so | 09:43 |
| Tuxist | i must download 54mb with dsl 4000 :-( | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | wasn't able to try as I didn't got it build properly :P | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | I probably should try to compile cvs version | 09:43 |
| Tuxist | amarok 1.4.2 have a bug | 09:43 |
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| Tuxist | in the mtpmediadevice.cpp | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: ? | 09:44 |
| Tuxist | at line 634 | 09:45 |
| Tuxist | QString ownername = QString( LIBMTP_Get_Friendlyname( m_device ) ); | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: where's the bug? | 09:45 |
| Tuxist | delete the line and use this QString ownername = QString( LIBMTP_Get_Friendlyname( m_device ) ); | 09:45 |
| Tuxist | you cant not compile without this change | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | they look exactly the same Oo | 09:46 |
| Tuxist | ok than have the amarok team clean this bug | 09:46 |
| Tuxist | very fine | 09:47 |
| Tuxist | nmm 0.9.2 it is a actuelly version | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: now tell me, where is the diff in the two lines you pasted :P | 09:48 |
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| Tuxist | i have not made a patch i have this change manuelly ;-) | 09:49 |
| Tuxist | ups | 09:49 |
| Tuxist | my next project is to made fedora 6 kernel to ubuntu | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | lol | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | Tuxist: what is the issue with that line? | 09:52 |
| Tuxist | its a change in libmtp | 09:55 |
| Tuxist | 0.12 | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | ah | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | sec | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | imbrandon, Tuxist: http://websvn.kde.org/?rev=576121&view=rev | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | nearly forgot to report that to packagers ^^ | 09:55 |
| Tuxist | ftp://tuxist.de/Bildschirmphoto9.png | 09:58 |
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| Lure | sebas: fix for brightness bug (if laptop does not have brightness control): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21575 | 10:04 |
| Tuxist | th packages are upload the source need a moment | 10:04 |
| Lure | sebas: tooltip is now much nicer | 10:04 |
| Tuxist | ftp://tuxist.de/edgy/amarok | 10:05 |
| Tuxist | all upload | 10:08 |
| Tuxist | now i work on the nmm support | 10:09 |
| Lure | sebas: why does g-p-m dcop interface use PID in the name? I suspect we will not allow more than one instance to run anyhow? | 10:15 |
| Lure | sebas: I suspect this is side effect of KApplication (instead of KUniqueApplication)? | 10:18 |
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| Viper550 | I just saw the new Edgy Knot 2 artwork...interesting... | 10:31 |
| Lure | Viper550: yep, nice touch from kwwii | 10:31 |
| Viper550 | Interesting, is that the same Purple color scheme from Dapper Flight 2? | 10:31 |
| Viper550 | At least it looks better without that hideous wallpaper from that build... | 10:32 |
| Viper550 | Now, I'm just going to try it on my Keramik/QtCurve idea, hope it fits! | 10:34 |
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| tuxi | hi | 10:51 |
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