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Eeyore! syslog12:11
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AtKaaZh3sp4wn: well, i had powersaved installed temporarely and reinstalled kpowerdaemon which should've removed the former12:11
h3sp4wnAtKaaZ: so have you removed powersaved ?12:12
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DaSkreechdamn fritsch12:12
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AtKaaZh3sp4wn: apparently not since it was running; but adept told me that it'll remove it after i've installed kpowerdaemon; and did restart since then12:13
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AtKaaZh3sp4wn: corretion klaptopdaemon instead of kpowerdaemon12:13
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AtKaaZh3sp4wn: seems it was kpowersave it was the one removed :-" outch12:14
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h3sp4wnAtKaaZ: I don't know the differences between klaptopdaemon / kpowerdaemon but I would try and get them to run whatever events12:19
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JWKubhello all12:20
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AtKaaZh3sp4wn: im pretty sure acpid is handling those events from /etc/acpi/events ... maybe as u said powersaved was doing that also12:20
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JWKubanyone installed Kubuntu on a Serial ATA config? I'm using the Promise controller...and trying to install dual boot setup. Haven't found any documentation yet that has helped me so far...12:21
JWKubtrying to run a raid 0 config12:21
fyyrest0rmany advantages to using adept manager vs apt-get? or does it matter?12:21
h3sp4wnJWKub: Hardware or software raid ?12:21
AtKaaZfyyrest0rm: i guess it's all about the easier interface, is it not?12:21
Erich-KI prefer synaptic over both of those12:22
orient2000I have kubuntu on ATA. Disconect other HD first.12:22
fyyrest0rmAtKaaZ: I suppose so..but being a noob I didn't know if it made a difference or if one was just a gui for the other lol12:22
AtKaaZbtw, does anyone know how to set the keyboard back to normal, smth like SysReq+K (or the key that does Xlat)12:22
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h3sp4wnJWKub: Does the sata controller have a bios on it ?12:22
JWKubmy secondary? so basically if install winxp on my first drive and then disconnect that for install purposes i should have no problems with the grub boot loader upon startup?12:23
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JWKubh3sp4wn> well I have a Phoenix System Bios and the controller does appear to have a bios since it starts up and i see --> Promise Raid Strip 2+0 etc etc..12:24
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h3sp4wnJWKub: Does it appear to the os as just one drive ?12:24
shane_well after searching for a bit I found nothing to help me install nvidia drivers. all the writeups and howTos seems to be so ubuntu specific that it doesn't work on kubuntu. can anyone here just tell me how to install the drivers?12:24
DaSkreechshane_: easyubuntu?12:25
h3sp4wnJWKub: Or are you wanting to use the raid in software12:25
AtKaaZshane_: nvidia drivers for X ?12:25
JWKubh3sp4wn: well its confusing...it apears that linux loads the proper raid drives and then appears to have two disks as 'sda' and 'sdd'12:25
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shane_I guess so. For 3D support.12:25
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JWKubh3sp4wn: when I initially tried to install Kubuntu I repartitioned the second drive and installed...so linux appeared to distinguish between the two...however grub auto installed on the master boot record from what i saw and thus I got an error 2112:26
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AtKaaZshane_: well, if so, then launch 'adept' and search for 'nvidia-glx' eventually 'nvidia-settings' or just plain 'nvidia' to find more stuff; but nvidia-glx seems to be the driver12:26
h3sp4wnJWKub: Did you install with the alternate installer ?12:27
shane_I am signing up to the Kubuntu forums and if one of you guys helps me (and successful) I will do my own writeup in the forums.12:27
obf213how do i open ajava file like ourtunes12:27
JWKubH3sp4wn: Yes I did...12:27
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obf213!java12:27
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:27
JWKubH3sp4wn: In fact that standard install wouldnt even load up properly so i was forced to12:27
jhutchinsNo sshd on the CD?12:27
Hawkwind!info ssh12:28
ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB12:28
obf213anyone know how i open a java file12:28
h3sp4wnJWKub: If you have a /boot partition not in the raid array and boot from that it should be ok12:28
obf213i have java sun installed but it just opens .jar fiels in ark12:28
obf213!.jar12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
h3sp4wnJWKub: Only needs to  be for example 100mb12:28
Hawkwindjhutchins: sudo apt-get install ssh12:28
AtKaaZsshd?12:29
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jhutchinsAtKaaZ: To enable remote ssh connections.12:29
h3sp4wnopenssh-server12:29
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AtKaaZjhutchins: sudo apt-get install openssh-server12:29
jhutchinsas in "here, boot to this CD and I'll ssh in and fix your computer".12:29
JWKubH3sp4wn: What would be the best way to accomplish this as I am working with the install routine of the alternate Kubuntu installer? would physically unplugging my drive during installing work? and if so in what order do i need to install?12:30
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JWKubH3sp4wn: WinXP or Kubuntu12:30
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h3sp4wnJWKub: Booting would be easiest if you could put a 100mb partition on the disk which is nothing to do with the raid array (mounted as /boot)12:31
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shane_what is nvidia-glx-dev?12:31
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AtKaaZjhutchins: any luck or should we try smth else?12:31
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AtKaaZshane_: i guess that's for the developers compiling programs that use nvidia-glx driver ie. g++12:32
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jhutchins_ltAtKaaZ: Sorry, multitasking.12:32
h3sp4wnshane_: The headers for building opengl programs with nvidia (similar to the mesa dev headers)12:32
AtKaaZjhutchins_lt: np here :P12:32
jhutchins_ltI was just surprized that the sshd wasn't on the live CD.12:32
fyyrest0rmerrr..trying to install jre through adept..i have to accept sun's eula..but i can't figure out a way to tell it ok..any suggestions?12:33
AtKaaZjhutchins_lt: so it still isn't ?12:33
jhutchins_ltOk, now for the tricky part... I need to chroot and run lilo.12:33
obf213anyone know i open a java file12:33
jhutchins_ltHow do I shut down the GUI?12:33
obf213it just opens it in ark12:33
h3sp4wnJWKub: I think the problem is grub being installed on a raid array - I think you could use lilo (but I think grub is much nicer to use)12:33
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JWKubH3sp4wn: Kubuntu installer is making it hard. I could do an another partition but the raid array setup in Kubuntu installer is kind of limited...12:34
AtKaaZjhutchins_lt: not sure if you are on the live cd now or ... ?12:34
jhutchins_ltlilo -R newkernel && shutdown -r now12:34
jhutchins_ltAtKaaZ: Yes, live CD.12:34
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jhutchins_ltActually this is a Mandriva laptop...12:34
jhutchins... but this is the Kubuntu live CD.12:35
AtKaaZjhutchins_lt: ouch , haven't used lilo with kubuntu12:35
JWKubH3sp4wn: unless i do the /boot mount at the beginning of the drive?12:35
alex__hi12:35
h3sp4wnJWKub: As long as it is not in the raid array anywhere should be fine12:35
jhutchins_ltAtKaaZ: That's ok, that's a Mandriva install as well.12:35
AtKaaZjhutchins but you have to be chrooted when u do that lilo thing right?12:35
alex__can someone help?12:35
jhutchins_ltI just want to kill KDE before I start doing chroot & stuff.12:36
Ballistikalex__: With what?12:36
jhutchins_ltAtKaaZ: Right.12:36
h3sp4wnjhutchins_lt: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop12:36
alex__first time linux user12:36
alex__I mean Kubuntu12:36
AtKaaZjhutchins_lt: well i assume you know what to do from here :)12:36
alex__used Fedora before12:36
h3sp4wnjhutchins_lt: sudo init 1 (if you want to be in single user mode)12:36
jhutchinsThank you.  This ID will go away now.12:36
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alex__I am trying to install the ATI drivers12:36
alex__I need to su12:37
alex__but everytime I type my password12:37
alex__it says that authentication failed12:37
fyyrest0rmalex_: use sudo12:37
alex__sudo and then password?12:37
AtKaaZyes12:37
AtKaaZ(if any)12:37
alex__so su is not used in Kubuntu?12:38
Ballistikalex__: No12:38
alex__ok12:38
linuxkid2alex__: you type sudo <command>, input the password when it prompts, and then your authorized for fifteen minutes.12:38
BallistikUse sudo in place of su - in kubuntu12:38
linuxkid2if you want a root shell instead of one command, use ither kdesu konsole or sudo su12:38
alex_fyyrest0rm: ??12:38
alex__so "sudo ./ati-installer........ blah blah MYPASSWORD"12:38
alex_what?12:39
Ballistikalex__: Yes12:39
alex__ok12:39
fyyrest0rmalex_: yes?12:39
alex__let me try12:39
linuxkid2alex__: no, type sudo <command> <return>, the it prompts for the password.12:39
h3sp4wnalex_: you need to chmod +x ati-installer first12:39
alex__ok12:39
alex__sudo su seems to have done the trick12:39
alex_fyyrest0rm: i'm not12:39
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JWKubH3sp4wn: so if i install win xp behind linux it should install its mbr on the second drive even if its in the raid config.12:39
alex__let me try to install the drivers12:39
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h3sp4wnJWKub: Install XP first12:40
alex_fyyrest0rm: alex__ I alex_12:40
JWKubH3sp4wn: to which drive?12:40
fyyrest0rmalex_: umm..huh?12:40
alex__ok12:40
h3sp4wnJWKub: At the moment you have 1 master drive - and then 2 serial ata drives you want in raid 0 - is that correct12:41
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JWKubH3sp4wn: no i have two disk in the raid config...12:41
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alex__uh oh12:41
linuxkid2How do I get Xine (kaffiene & amaroK) to play Real and Quicktime formats?12:41
alex__there were errors during the installation12:41
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JWKubH3sp4wn: and they both plug into the promise serial ata controller...12:42
fyyrest0rmugh.. got sun-java5-jre done through apt-get, try to run frostwire and get a few lines of "unable to locate java exec in blah blah blah hierarchy" and it says to upgrade to java 1.4.x or newer..what have i done wrong this time? lol12:42
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h3sp4wnJWKub: The problem is whether the way the raid array is setup by windows is the same as it would be setup by linux - that I don't know12:42
JWKubH3sp4wn: and its a Dell XPS which may complicate things since i think dell configs always have that utility boot area in part 0 and the mbr in part 1 of the main disk12:42
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alex__[Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.12:43
alex__[Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.12:43
alex__[Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult read12:43
alex__me.12:43
alex__I got this12:43
alex__in the fglrx-install log12:43
linuxkid2Please don't paste in here.12:43
LeeJunFanWhy is it that mandriva and suse appear to use kde window decorations in the demo's I see for XGL but kubuntu still can't? or does it work in edgy?12:43
linuxkid2!paste12:43
alex__sorry12:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:43
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alex__didn't know12:43
alex_alex__ no repeat12:44
h3sp4wnalex__: sudo aptitude install build-essential kernel-headers-38612:44
linuxkid2it's okay, just do it right next time.12:44
alex__is that a command?12:44
h3sp4wnalex__: Yep put it into konsole12:44
alex__ok12:44
lupine !!! linux-headers !!!12:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers !!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:44
lupinenot kernel-headers12:45
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linuxkid2How do I get Xine (kaffiene & amaroK) to play Real and Quicktime formats?12:45
pierrethhello12:45
pierrethwho is using kontact?12:45
h3sp4wnlupine: true (it hasn't been kernel-headers for ages has it)12:46
lupineit always catches me out as well12:46
alex__that command you gave me failed12:46
linuxkid2pierreth: what's the problem?12:46
alex__assertion `rval != -1` failed12:46
pierrethlinuxkid2: i don't see the full name in the 1st column12:46
JWKubH3sp4wn: i think it is since they seem to identify the drives in the same order and recognize each others partitions..i think its a problem of the boot partition...however let me try your partition advice and see if that will aleviate the problem. What I will do is do a /boot partition the main partition and then the swap on drive one. and then I will do xp on the second drive and ensure that it writes its boot record on the second disk12:46
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h3sp4wnJWKub: Are you wanting XP to use raid 0 as well ?12:47
pierrethlinuxkid2: i have to modify the contact to make it appear12:47
linuxkid2pierreth: the full name is called the Format Name when you import things. That was my problem, set it to name when importing Gmail contacts.12:47
linuxkid2*Formatted Name12:47
mcrandelloIt's safe to update X with adept?12:47
pierrethlinuxkid2: you mean set it in the preferences or in the import dialog?12:48
Ballistik!konsole12:48
ubotukonsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 673 kB, installed size 2096 kB12:48
alex__h3sp4wn12:48
alex__so what about that error?12:49
alex_MrObvious: no recomendable12:49
Ballistik!kde 3.5.312:49
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB12:49
linuxkid2pierreth: when in the import dialog, I set the full name column to "Name" instead of "Format Name" when I imported the first time.12:49
h3sp4wnalex__: What is the error ?12:49
alex__assertion `rval != -1` failed12:49
linuxkid2pierreth: and I got the same problem.12:49
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pierrethlinuxkid2: ok, i am going to try12:49
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h3sp4wnalex__: so if you type sudo aptitude install linux-headers-386 build-essential (the error you get is assertion `rval != -1` failed)12:50
alex__correct12:50
alex__that's the error I get12:50
alex__actually12:51
alex__hang on12:51
alex__I think I know what the problem is12:51
mcrandelloadept updater ought to list the date on updated packages.12:51
linuxkid2that'd be nice.12:52
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alex__h3sp4wn12:52
linuxkid2Does Aptitude or Synaptic do that?12:52
alex__I resolved that issue12:52
mcrandellois there a feature request site anywhere I can put that in12:52
alex__I executed the command you gave me with no errors12:52
linuxkid2*shrugs* no idea.12:52
mcrandelloit wouldn't even be that hard just the "last touched" date from the server12:52
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alex__drivers installation still fails though12:53
h3sp4wnalex__: that should give you enough for the ati-installer to build the modules12:53
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alex__hehe... sadly it didn't12:53
alex__I still get the same error12:53
h3sp4wnalex__: you are doing sudo ati-installer --buildpkg ubuntu/dapper12:53
alex__so ubuntu/dapper is the parameter?12:54
alex__(as in which package to use?)12:54
h3sp4wnalex__: That should build 4 .deb files in the current directory12:54
alex__let me try12:54
linuxkid2mcrandello: well, you can bet that the upgradeable package was updated between the last time you ran an update and this.12:54
linuxkid2unless it's a new repo12:55
linuxkid2How do I get Xine (kaffiene & amaroK) to play Real and Quicktime formats?12:55
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mcrandelloyeah I'm just very nervous about updating X and wanted to make sure I wasn't getting the bum one12:55
gnomefreakmcrandello: you will be getting the fixed one12:56
alex__h3sp4wn12:56
alex__The distribution 'ubuntu' is not supported12:56
alex__I guess there is nothing I can do about that is there?12:56
alex__that message is given by the installer12:56
h3sp4wnalex__: run ati-installer --help12:56
alex__ok12:57
h3sp4wnalex__: then ati-installer --listpkg (its something like that I forget exactly) you want the ubuntu/dapper or ubuntu/lts one12:57
linuxkid2mcrandello: the bum version is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3, the good one is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.12:57
mcrandello:)12:57
alex__trying now12:57
mcrandelloall good then12:57
linuxkid2mcrandello: you can use aptitude to blacklist certian versions of packages.12:57
linuxkid2dunno how though.12:57
linuxkid2How do I get Xine (kaffiene & amaroK) to play Real and Quicktime formats?12:58
linuxkid2quicktime anyone?12:58
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h3sp4wnlinuxkid2: w32codecs12:59
linuxkid2oh,ok, I already installed that.12:59
alex__h3sp4wn12:59
alex__I ran the listpkg parameter12:59
alex__ubuntu is listen12:59
alex__listled12:59
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alex__Ubuntu/6.0612:59
alex__is that what I use?12:59
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h3sp4wnYes01:00
alex__actually...01:00
alex__even Ubuntu/dapper is listed01:00
alex__use that?01:00
fyyrest0rmanyone use klibido?01:00
h3sp4wnalex__: Either should be the same01:00
alex__ok01:00
alex__usage should be in the --help parameter I assume01:00
h3sp4wn./ati-installer --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper01:01
alex__ok01:01
alex__yea01:01
alex__found it01:01
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linuxkid2isn't there some utility that turns make builds into deb packages?01:02
alex__I did that01:02
alex__now what?01:02
alex__(I got an error in the end01:02
alex__Error 12701:03
alex__no description is given01:03
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: Checkinstall but I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy.  Very poorly written application01:03
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linuxkid2Hawkwind: what's teh matter with it. Sounds like a good idea. That's the one I was thinking of.01:03
h3sp4wnalex__: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide (have a look at method 2 - that is what you are trying to do)01:03
alex__ok01:04
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: It just build pretty crappy packages.  Not something I'd use on my system01:04
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: If you want to build packages, learn to do them the proper and correct way and save yourself the heartache and possibility of messing up yours or anyone elses system01:04
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BallistikDo you guys know a fix for the 3.5.3 screensaver problem?01:05
linuxkid2Hawkwind: it's just that "make install"ed packages are hard to uninstall.01:05
linuxkid2Hawkwing: what is the proper way?01:05
pierrethmy gnucash is stuck01:05
pierrethclicking the buttons does nothing01:05
linuxkid2Hawkwind: what is the proper way?01:05
Hawkwindlinuxkid2: There are many how-to's on the Ubuntu forums01:05
linuxkid2k01:05
pierrethit is freshly installed01:06
Hawkwindpierreth: So kill it from a terminal if you need to01:06
h3sp4wnlinuxkid2: just use installwatch to track programs installed with make install01:06
linuxkid2k01:06
pierrethHawkwind: but i cannot use it at all01:06
alex__h3sp4wn01:07
alex__I am encountering errors01:07
Hawkwindpierreth: How did you install it ?01:07
alex__this step: sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.28.8-1_i386.deb01:07
pierrethHawkwind: with the Synaptic installer01:07
alex__gives an error01:07
h3sp4wnalex__: What error if I have to ask for the error each time it will take longer01:08
Hawkwindpierreth: Have you tried killing it and then running it from a terminal to see what errors it gives you ?01:08
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alex__sorry, I thought I typed it01:09
pierrethHawkwind: i found the problem, a window was hidden and blocking the process01:09
alex__simply says no such file01:09
Hawkwindpierreth: Ah ok.  So it's actually working then ?01:09
BallistikDo you guys know a fix for the 3.5.3 screensaver problem?01:09
HawkwindBallistik: What problem ?01:09
pierrethHawkwind: no this is a bug01:09
BallistikHawkwind: Where the screensaver won't start01:09
HawkwindBallistik: Hmmm, haven't heard anything about it01:10
jujimufugtg01:10
jujimufubyes :)01:10
BallistikBye01:10
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alex__?01:12
alex__anyone still here?01:13
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mcrandellothe 3.5.4 kde stuff ought to be showing up in adept, right?01:13
pierrethgnucash cannot import my quicken files :-(01:14
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TonrenHas anyone experienced that GNOME breaks when you install Kubuntu-desktop?01:15
alex__h3sp4wn01:16
alex__are you still there?01:16
larson9999hmmm, bought an 80gb dvr for $5 at a thrift store.  doesn't look like i'll be able to use it as a dvr :)  guess i'll have to go mythtv or freevo01:17
alex__can anyone else help me?01:17
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rljthe khotkeys applet in my system settings crash when selecting the "command shortcuts" tab. is this a known problem or might it just be my particular installation?01:18
BallistikIs there a way to update my KDE 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 instead of having to completely redownload kde?01:19
rljso i copied some raw program launch shortcuts from my gentoo box's khotkeysrc and it works after a kde restart. still annoying it always segfaults system settings...01:19
Viper550Ballistik: sudo apt-get update kubuntu-desktop?01:19
alex__anyone tried to install the ATI drivers on kubuntu?01:19
Viper550I mean apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop01:19
mcrandelloalex__: I just downloaded them and then ran the installer after blacklisting the fglrx module from the restricted drivers01:20
rljcan't find any reference to my prob on the launchpad01:20
alex__and how do I do the blacklisting?01:20
DaSkreechI rule @!!  :-)01:20
mcrandelloalex__ hang on01:20
alex__oh01:21
alex__I think I found it01:21
alex__is it this: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common01:21
alex__?01:21
mcrandellohttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide&printable=yes#blacklist_old_fglrx_module_from_linux-restricted-modules01:21
BallistikViper550: Thanks01:22
alex__yep that's the one01:22
alex__I get an error... it says that gedit: command no found01:22
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mcrandellotry using kate instead01:22
alex__what other editors are there?01:22
alex__kate?01:22
alex__ok01:22
mcrandellothat's pretty much the kubuntu equivalent01:22
Viper550Remember, sudo apt-get upgrade kde (if you want to just upgrade KDE apps), or sudo apt-get upgrade kubuntu-desktop (if you want to upgrade all the apps that came with Kubuntu, including KDE)01:23
alex__I got an error01:23
Viper550alex__, try kedit, it's alot faster than Kate, and a bit more simliar to gedit01:23
mcrandelloViper550: I'm not seeing any updates is there something other than the official repos I have to enable?01:23
alex__says connectino refused by server01:23
alex__kate: cannot connect to X server :0.001:23
mcrandelloalex__  you running it as root?01:24
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Viper550http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php01:24
MarcCis it OK to kill the ubuntudb process?01:24
MarcCsorry, updatedb01:24
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alex__yes01:25
mcrandellomake sure your prompt is a "%" or "$" if it is a "#" then type exit until it's one of the first two :)01:25
alex__I am running as root01:25
alex__ok01:25
mcrandelloyou get that message whenever the user in the console is not the same as the one running X01:25
alex__oh ok01:25
alex__I'll try now then01:25
h3sp4wnMarcC: You don't want to stop that (it indexes everything for use with the locate command)01:26
h3sp4wnMarcC: It doesn't run very often01:26
h3sp4wnMarcC: (unless its running constantly which would be a problem)01:26
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MarcCok thanks01:27
alex__I was able to edit it in Kate01:27
alex__but while I did that the console gave me a bucketload of errors01:27
alex__I checked whether it was saved though and it was01:27
jonteccan anyone tell me what I need to do to use vmware player. I'd like to be able to use windows, or do I need something else? :D01:28
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alex__so to install the driver to I need to do "sudo su" again?01:28
alex__prior to installation?01:28
jontecor would it be better to run Kubuntu from windows?01:28
mcrandelloalex whenever you use X or KDE programs from the console you may see debugging stuff like that01:28
alex__oh ok01:28
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mcrandelloalex__ also you should just be able to "sudo sh whatever-the-name-of-the-ati-drivers.run"01:29
alex__ok01:29
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alex__ok01:31
alex__so I installed the driver01:31
alex__I ran aticonfig --initial01:31
alex__and this is the error I got01:31
alex__aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.01:32
alex__anyone still there?01:33
mcrandelloyou put sudo in front of that aticonfig?01:33
alex__lol01:33
alex__it's always the sudo01:33
alex__it's going to take time to get used to it01:33
alex__worked01:33
alex__ok... I guess I have to restart01:34
mcrandelloany time you're working with the system01:34
bimberialex__: sudo aticonfig....01:34
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alex__I am going to restart01:34
alex__if I have trouble I'll be back01:34
alex__thanks for the help01:35
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josh__k how do i download nvidia-glx01:39
josh__whats that command01:39
josh__its like alsa get nvigia-glx??01:39
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fyyrest0rmwhat would cause my system to seriously start lagging when switching desktops all of a sudden?01:40
Ballistiksudo apt-get nvigia-glx?01:40
fyyrest0rmhmm..its not just when switching desktops either..minimizing/maximizing apps too01:41
jontecI need assistance with vmware...01:41
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OpeNZjontec: whats wrong01:41
jontecI don't know anything about it.01:42
jontecHow can I get it to run windows?01:42
josh__aaah thats the one01:42
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jontecor do I need another piece of software? Or can I have it run Kubuntu from Windows?01:42
OpeNZAFAIK you can run any OS from whatever platform01:43
josh__can you use automatix in kubuntu x86_64?01:43
OpeNZI have run VMware on both windoze and kubuntu01:43
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OpeNZjontec: Are you running vmware server or player?01:44
jontecOkay, does one run better and how do I do it?01:44
jontecVMplayer01:44
jontecsorry VMware player01:45
OpeNZdo you have a vmware image for Windows?01:45
OpeNZPlayer will only play existing vm images01:45
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exobuzzhas anyone tried upgrading from dapper to edgy and run into a problem with python2.4-minimal not installing. (And know of a workaround). got a half installed system here :/01:46
jontecNope, do you need something to make it? Is it free to make it?01:46
OpeNZif you want to build an xp workstation under vmware then you need to install vmserver01:46
waspiushi..i just found out what karamba does and how nice it is...if i use a simple desktop such as fluxbox will i be able to use karamba without using allot of resources as i would if i used it in kde?01:47
jontecone sec and I'll look it up in Adept01:47
jontecdirected at OpeNZ01:48
OpeNZyou need to download it from vmware - free download01:48
jontecdo I need to run it from windows?01:49
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OpeNZif you have a ubuntu or kubuntu box you can install it there - you will need the linux version of course :)01:50
jake1i need help, can anyone help me.... i know this is a kubuntu channel but seemingly no one is able to help me in the ubuntu channel..... but i need help figuring out why is it that whenever i try to install ubuntu from the CD to my laptop my screen looks like this (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg) this makes it impossible to install ubuntu01:51
jake1any ideas01:53
jake1????01:53
OpeNZjontec: follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server01:54
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jontecthanks, I was just about to ask you if you knew anywhere that I could look01:54
jake1:-\01:54
DaSkreechWhich CD?01:55
OpeNZjontec: download vmserver for linux at http://www.vmware.com/download/server/01:55
OpeNZit is about 110MB01:55
jake1DaSkreech: you asking me????01:55
DaSkreechYup01:55
jake1DaSkreech: I tried the alternate installer, and i tried the other one01:55
jake1the original01:56
DaSkreechAnd both do that?01:56
jake1and they both are doing the same thing01:56
DaSkreechThe Desktop?01:56
jake1unless i did something wierd on the second i selected text installer01:56
jake1and i got that screen01:56
jake1but it did that as well on the other cd01:56
DaSkreechHow did you select text installer?01:56
jake1The Desktop?01:56
jake1what about the desktop?01:56
DaSkreechThe Other CD is called the Desktop CD01:56
DaSkreechIt's a live CD01:57
jake1oh01:57
jake1yea01:57
jake1that one01:57
jake1that's the one i tried01:57
DaSkreechThat doesn't boot up?01:57
jake1nope01:57
DaSkreechHmm01:57
DaSkreech !laptop01:57
jake1it gives me that screen01:57
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org01:57
jake1yea laptop01:57
DaSkreechCan you look at those links and see if your laptop is in the lists?01:57
josh__whats happens when you do a complete upgrade in adept01:57
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josh__ok one more question guys02:00
jontecThanks for the help, I don't think that I will be able to get around to this before the end of the week (I'm on dial-up and that file is 100MB!) I also think that I need to free up some disk space.02:00
fyyrest0rmanyone here have experience with WoW and wine?02:00
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josh__whats the difference between nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev02:00
josh__does one support 3d applications and one doesn't?02:01
fyyrest0rmjosh_: get both02:01
josh__oh ok02:01
josh__so now i can use 3d stuff?02:01
fyyrest0rmjosh_: i believe (could be wrong) nvidia-glx is the driver and nvidia-glx-dev is the header stuff02:01
josh__ooooh02:01
josh__well i hope i can do 3d work now02:02
josh__i've been trying to do this forever02:02
fyyrest0rmjosh_: i feel your pain lol02:02
josh__then i type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable after right?02:02
fyyrest0rmjosh_: took me a couple days and many questions here to get mine working02:02
fyyrest0rmjosh: yeah02:02
ubuntuProblem: I installed nvidia drivers through Adept. I installed nvidia-glx . I then edited my xorg.conf from nv to nvidia. After ctrl+alt+backspace it froze up at the boot splash (black background blue kubuntu). I hit ctrl+alt+F1 and went into my xorg.conf to change it back to nv from nvidia and now it is showing ATI drivers... changing nvidia back to nv does nothing and it still freezes at boot.02:02
josh__yessss02:03
ubuntuI am now in a safe graphical boot from CD02:03
ubuntuAny way to "undo" what I did?02:04
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riperhii all02:05
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rrbizhi riper, what's up02:05
ubuntuAre you guys able to see my messages?02:06
rrbizsure ubuntu02:06
fyyrest0rmubuntu: i can see them..i just don't have an answer :)02:06
ubuntuOk its format and reinstall time (second time) woo hoo.02:06
josh__it says my x config has been altered02:07
ubuntuActually 3rd but who is counting besides me.02:07
MarcCubuntu, why not change to vesa?02:07
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ubuntuWhat is vesa?02:07
MarcCchange "nvidia" to "vesa" in your xorg.conf02:07
MarcCthen restart X02:07
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josh__last time i tried to change my thing from nv to nvidia it crashed02:07
MarcCit's a primitive graphics mode, but at least it gives you windows and such02:07
BallistikHow can i add a link to Storage Media on the desktop?02:08
MarcC(at reduced refresh rate but same resolution)02:08
josh__in case i screw it up what's that application you can use in the console mode to edit files?02:08
ubuntupico02:08
josh__whats the command to run it02:08
ubuntupico02:08
josh__thats it?02:08
MarcCjosh__, you can use vesa too if you need to02:08
ubuntujust type pico02:08
josh__oh oik02:09
mcrandelloor nano02:09
ubuntutype pico space filename02:09
josh__so pico and then /filename right?02:09
ubuntuaye02:09
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BallistikHow can i add a link to Storage Media on the desktop?02:09
OpeNZjontec: I think the install takes around 180 - 200MB once everything has bee uncompressed and installed02:09
ubuntui think sudo -e filename works too02:09
ubuntuI am a bit of a newb but I can do some things02:10
josh__ok i'll change that now02:10
josh__wish me luck i hope this works!02:10
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ubuntuvesa sounds sketchy because if I will from then on have to run in vesa there is no point. What linux distro has the best support? SuSE?02:11
rrbizBallistik, right click on desktop go to properties, and select behavior, then device icons tab, and set it up from there02:11
MarcCubuntu, support for what?02:11
josh__ok how do i save?02:11
josh__in pico02:11
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MarcCjosh__, instructions are at the bottom of the window, I think you just hit Ctrl+X to quit and it will ask you if you want to save02:12
ubuntuonce pico is open at the bottom of the screen is all the commands (ctrl+x exits and gives the option of saving)02:12
josh__oooooh ok02:12
josh__ok so sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:13
mcrandello^O to write out or simply ^X to prompt02:13
josh__then edit and save02:13
josh__alright02:13
josh__i'll try to restart x now02:13
ubuntugood luck02:13
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ubuntuMarcC scroll up and read my fat post at 19:0302:14
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MrObviousubuntu: Lose some weight then :p02:14
rrbizdoes any here directly work for Ubuntu, or is it users helping users mainly in here?02:14
MarcCubuntu, I don't have that history02:14
MarcC(restarted x just now)02:14
MrObviousubuntu: Laugh :p02:15
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ubuntuThere is no write up on the web that I could find specifically for Kubuntu (not to be confused with the slightly different Ubuntu) on how to simply install nvidia drivers. As it appears something is broken02:15
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ubuntuProblem: I installed nvidia drivers through Adept. I installed nvidia-glx . I then edited my xorg.conf from nv to nvidia. After ctrl+alt+backspace it froze up at the boot splash (black background blue kubuntu). I hit ctrl+alt+F1 and went into my xorg.conf to change it back to nv from nvidia and now it is showing ATI drivers... changing nvidia back to nv does nothing and it still freezes at boot.02:16
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MarcCcan you check in adept and see if you have ati stuff installed?02:16
MarcCand also, you will need nvidia-kernel-common or something like that, I think02:16
ubuntuI cannot log into that installation except command line now02:17
MarcCok, that's why you switch xorg.conf device to "vesa" for the time being...it works perfect for situations like this.02:17
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ubuntuMarcC ok i will try that02:18
MarcCgood, your situation isn't so foreign to me, I went through it 2 years ago :)02:18
tuxonHi there... just dropping by... I've just finished installing Kubuntu on my +4200 amd64 x2 and I must say it rocks!02:19
maeanyone suggest some fully-linux-friendly (all hardware) core2 laptops?02:20
mcrandelloonce you get it working do something like "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/WORKING-xorg.conf"02:20
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BallistikHow can i add a link to 'Storage Media:/' on the desktop?02:22
tuxonI do have to admit that I had to fish around for some libs for all the apps I wanted... mostly multimedia stuff but now that it's done i'm really having fun :-)02:23
james_xxxdoes anyone in here use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter?02:24
james_xxxOR a wusb54gs? i have both02:24
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dabugashi02:25
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SotelkanAssaultCould you help me to install KDE on my ubuntu?02:26
DaSkreechSotelkanAssault: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:26
dabugasSotelkanAssault: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "02:26
SotelkanAssaultok02:27
dabugasheh02:27
DaSkreechI win :)02:27
dabugas:p02:27
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dabugasit was the quotes that did me in02:27
james_xxxi didnt even have a chance to hit enter lol02:27
Catullhi :)02:27
Catull^^02:28
dabugasokay, help now. i can't get kscd to play cds (although i have sound throughout my system)02:28
dabugasany ideas?02:28
lupinejzmes_xxx: which version of wusb54g?02:28
james_xxxi am using a linksys wusb54g v.4 wireless adapter, and it is causing my system to hang off and on, forcing me to reboot...02:28
james_xxxlupine: v.402:28
lupineah, it's based on the rt2500usb chipset then02:28
james_xxxlupine: yes02:28
lupinewhich driver are you using for it?02:28
lupineand are you unplugging/plugging it in a lot?02:28
james_xxxlupine: let me look again....02:29
lupinei.e. ndiswrapper, or did it set itself up automagically, or did you install one?02:29
Catullo_O i think i will be subject to fun, when im starting to ask newb-questions here -.-02:29
james_xxxlupine: i am using ndiswrapper with rt2500usb02:29
james_xxxlupine: i do not unplug it02:29
lupineright, you can get rid of ndiswrapper - there is a native driver02:30
lupinewhich kernel version are you using?02:30
dabugasCatull: no worries; i'm being mocked all over the place since '98 and i keep comming up with them :)02:30
james_xxxlupine: wow, awesome, i had no idea02:30
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Catulllol ;)02:30
lupine:D02:30
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lupine(uname -r)02:30
james_xxxlupine: i am using the most recent 2.6.15.**** from the repos02:30
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lupineso 2.6.15-26-386 ?02:30
james_xxx68602:31
Catullwell guys and gals, actually im just about to install kubuntu right now, an i was hoping to get some help :)02:31
lupineok. What you need to do then is to build the kernel module yourself - the sources are at...02:32
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Catull:P02:32
BallistikKubuntu is great02:32
lupinehttp://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2570-cvs-daily.tar.gz02:32
james_xxxyikes... i have no idea how to build a kernel module:(02:32
larson9999linux rocks!02:32
gekko`Catull: each new kubuntu user makes us smile :)02:32
lupinereally easy to do: make sure you've got build-essential and linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 installed02:32
DaSkreechCatull: install the kubuntu-desktop package02:33
james_xxxok lemme check on those, i think i have them already02:33
larson9999catull there are a couple pretty nice newbie docs that will help. come here for the links.  i got to run02:33
Catulli thought im going to start with a partition of my hd, cause i want to keep xp in the first place using magic partition - ok for u guys?02:33
DaSkreechlarson9999: Later02:33
DaSkreechOhh sorry I thought you had Ubuntu already installed :)02:33
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DaSkreechCatull: You will need at least two I recommned three files02:34
lupineok; then open a terminal, cdto wherever the archive is (~/Desktop usually), unpack the archive (tar -xzvf rt2570-cvs-daily.tar.gz) and cd into the directory created...02:34
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lupinethen CD into the 'Module' directory and run make02:34
larson9999lupine what do you need to build a kernel for?  i'm always curious when i hear that because i've never had to and i've been a user since 1997.  maybe i just never had new enough hw02:34
DaSkreechDoh not files I mean partitions :)02:34
DaSkreechCatull: ^^^02:35
Catullk i have only about 10 gigs free space... enough?02:35
lupineyou build your own *kernel* (Rather than kernel module) if you want to support some weird hardware, or if you want to get a speed increase02:35
james_xxxlupine: ok, i had to install those02:35
DaSkreechYep02:35
lupineok; did you get the ^ instructions ^02:35
BallistikIs there a media player that will play .wmv files?02:35
DaSkreechCatull: Have two Paritions then02:35
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Catullthats what ive thought :)02:36
josh__guys02:36
DaSkreechCatull: How much spacewil that leave Windows?02:36
larson9999lupine: yeah, i guess i never have wierd hw.02:36
DaSkreechjosh__: Yup?02:36
Catull30gig02:36
josh__i installed the firefox package but how do i run firefox?02:36
lupinedepends if it's encrypted02:36
Catullim about to delete some movies^^02:36
lupineif not, then mplayer  - or just kaffeine - + w32codecs would work fine02:36
james_xxxlupine: i did, but i will get stuck at the make part.... so i hope you'll be here for a minute or two02:36
dabugasjosh__: mozilla-firefox02:36
larson9999Catull: are you trying linux for the first time?02:36
lupinewill be :)02:36
josh__thats teh command?02:36
linuxkid2Ballistik: sudo aptitude install w32codecs02:36
DaSkreechCatull: That's enough to play around in but as you realize that Windows is useless you will start to want more space in Linux :002:37
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Ballistiklinuxkid2: Thanks02:37
DaSkreechCatull: That's fine for starting though02:37
Catullwell, yes... i used to work on mac... im forced now to use a pc and i dont like xp anymore :)02:37
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linuxkid2Ballistik: that's a Kaffiene plug in.02:37
lupinemake is easy: you just type 'make'. it'll spew out loads of junk, hopefully not ending in 'error'; then you can type 'sudo make install' to put it in your kernel's module directory02:37
DaSkreechCatull: My apologies :)02:37
Catull:) xp suckz^^02:38
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josh__how do i make it so that firefox will come up in the kmenu02:38
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BallistikNow i get "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll" Any ideas?02:38
fyyrest0rmok..i'm hooked i think lol..don't even need any video codecs. i'm loving it :)02:39
linuxkid2Hey, as far as computers go, I used Mac until about 99, then Win98 and ME till a couple of weeks ago, now I use Kubuntu02:39
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Catullcask: i should use names... its overcrowded here :)02:39
larson9999Catull: my advice is along the lines of DaSkreech if you're just checking out linux for now i'd just use those 10 gigs the way the install wants.  after you mess around a bit, you'll like want to resize the windows partition and maybe reinstall linux to you liking based on what you learned in this first go around.02:39
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Catullwell... i planed to get myself a new and bigger hd only for kubuntu if everything is going well in the first place :)02:40
james_xxxlupine: when i click on the link you gave me, do i need to extract that to a folder or just save it?02:40
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BallistikNow i get "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll" Any ideas?02:40
lupinejames_xxx: you can just extract it02:40
lupinestraIght onto your desktop will be fine02:41
larson9999that's a good iedea02:41
DaSkreechWell next question is how much RAM do you have02:41
Catulli wanted to try linux years ago, but to be honest, was a little bit scared... but with the impressing guis nowadays, shouldnt be that big problem ;)02:42
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Catull51202:42
Catull512 mb02:42
lupinelinux is still big and scary. but prettier ;)02:42
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Catullhehe...02:42
james_xxxlupine: ok, i extracted it to a folder, but when i ran your command i got errors02:42
lupineok, can you stick them on a pastebin?02:43
james_xxxyes02:43
lupineok, will make life easier that way :)02:43
james_xxxlupine: it is only saying there is no such file or directory.... you have to realize i am very inexperienced here lol02:43
waspiuswhat is the difference between system:/media and :/media?02:43
lupineah, in that case you're in the wrong place :)02:44
lupinetype ls02:44
lupinedo you see a directory called 'Module' anywhere? or any directories with the word 'rt2570' in them? Or the directory 'Desktop'?02:44
james_xxxwhen i type ls, i get 'rt2570-cvs-2006082319'02:44
lupineok, type cd rt2570*/Module02:45
lupinethen run make02:45
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james_xxxjust type 'run make'?02:45
lupineno, just type 'make'02:45
lupineit takes ~2 minutes, depending on computer speed02:46
james_xxxlupine: i got major erors02:46
larson9999i've tried 4 of the fancy gui distros recently.  all claimed to 'just work' out of the box.  but none did according to my definition of just working..  the good news is that they were all very close to just working and the post install setup is getting very minimal these days.  usually the hardest part is find the command that does what you need.  that's an area in which *buntu shines imho: easy to find and easy to read documentati02:46
larson9999on that is usually pretty good.02:46
lupineok, can you pastebin those?02:47
Catullmmhm... ill try kubunte cause of the kde gui...02:47
DaSkreechCatull: Ok I'd say one GB for Swap 9 for / and go02:47
larson9999yep02:47
fyyrest0rmthere a way to put a volume control in my system tray?02:47
james_xxxlupine: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/77449702:48
Catullk ill start magic partition then02:48
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troxorwhy do the konqui dragons on www.kubuntu.org look so depressed?02:49
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lupinehmm. 1 second02:49
james_xxxk02:49
BallistikIs there a media player that will play .wmv files?02:50
ausivyou have to install the codecs02:50
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ausivone sec02:50
larson9999Catull: if it comes time for you to buy partition magic again or you get tired of friends borrowing it, check out another fine linux product, the gparted live cd02:51
Catull*nero suckz aswell-the backup dvd wont work -.-*02:51
DaSkreechtroxor: Cause we don't have more users :()02:51
Catullfor that i have to have linux first ;)02:51
ausivBallistik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs02:51
lupineok, it's something screwey with your setup - it compiles fine here with those drivers :(02:52
lupineif you want, I can send you the module?02:52
larson9999Catull: if you mean gparted, no you don't. you can download it and burn it like an cd with any thing that will let you dl.02:52
james_xxxhow would you do that?02:52
lupineI'd stick it on my website and you'd download it :)02:52
Catull^^ didnt knew that02:52
james_xxxlupine: that would be awesome02:52
lupinesince it's compiled against the right kernel headers (just done it now), it should work fine02:53
lupine1 second then02:53
DaSkreechlarson9999: there is a gparted distro02:53
larson9999DaSkreech: yep.  works great imo02:53
james_xxxthe gparted live cd is awesome02:53
larson9999james_xxx: yep02:53
lupine ok: http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/rt2570.ko02:53
james_xxxlupine: before i click on that, is there anything i need to know?02:54
DaSkreechPoint Catull to it :)02:54
lupineit's just a kernel module02:54
james_xxxwill that module just install itself?02:54
lupineright-click and "save as", if you can02:54
CatullYeeeaah - i love my powerbook - he reads the dvd02:54
lupineno, we'll need to put it in the right place (As root/sudo), depmod it and modprobe it02:54
larson9999DaSkreech: i thought Catull had partition magic02:54
lupinei.e. tell the kernel all about it02:55
Catullk guys... if there is a better way then MPart tell it to me - im gonna do it02:55
DaSkreechOh I heard gparted in passing02:55
fyyrest0rmOk...is there a way to browse certain categories in adept, like "games" or something?02:55
james_xxxlupine: i cannot right click/save as02:55
lupinemight be easier for you to go to http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ then right-click and download from there02:55
james_xxxok02:55
fyyrest0rmor even an online package database to browse through?02:55
lupine(from tomorrow it should appear in a repository I've set up for these things)02:56
larson9999Catull: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php02:56
james_xxxlupine: i'm impressed02:56
lupinemeaning it'll be a couple of clicks in adept :D02:56
james_xxxlupine: although i still can't figure out how to save it, brb02:56
lupinein firefox, just right-click and "save link as"02:56
Catulllarson9999: may i start it from a usb device?02:57
larson9999Catull: i think so but i don't.  see what the site says02:57
larson9999Catull: if you do move linux to another drive, you can then use gparted to give those 10 gig back to windows02:57
james_xxxlupine: done02:58
maehi! - is the go 7xxx series unsupported in linux?02:58
lupineok, where is it saved? your desktop?02:58
larson9999Catull: so you were going to buy partition magic for this?  i'm confused02:58
james_xxxlupine: to a folder in my home dir02:59
lupineok. as long as you know where it is :). Now you need to open a terminal and type 'cd /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686'02:59
waspiusdanix: ok..i want to use a floppy and when i try to enter it through system:/media i get the error could not mount device..the reported error was mount:according to mtab,/dev/fd0 is already mounted on /media/fdo..mount failed..so i can only view it in /media and i cannot format it02:59
lupinethen type ls, and look for a directory named 'extra'02:59
larson9999waspius: how is wow coming?02:59
james_xxxlupine: done02:59
lupineif it is there, then "cd extra"; if it isn't, then "sudo mkdir extra" then "cd extra"03:00
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james_xxxlupine: there is no dir named extra03:00
waspiuslarson9999: i tried to install war3 i managed to but i did not manage to install the nocd crack so i abandoned it03:00
lupinesudo mkdir extra, then03:00
Catullim about to download gparted...03:00
james_xxxlupine: dir made03:01
larson9999waspius: did sound and everything work?03:01
james_xxxi cd'd to 'extra'03:01
lupineonce you're in your brand-new directory, you want to move the module there so "sudo mv /home/user/dir/rt2570.ko ." - you need to use the full path to the module03:01
james_xxxok brb03:01
lupine(since you're executing the command as root)03:01
waspiuslarson9999: sound when i went to install did work..and so did the imag..but i did not manage to go further in due to the nocd crack03:02
larson9999waspius: those 2 sites do the trick?03:02
larson9999waspius: oh, i thought the new version of wine handled changing cds ok.  i guess not03:02
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josh__i'm confused03:03
waspiuslarson9999: i have a copy of the war3 not original so i use cracks..so probably because of that they did not work..i need to try with a proper version03:03
james_xxxlupine: missing destination file?03:03
fyyrest0rmanyone? can i browse categories in adept?03:03
larson9999waspius: aha.  that's not nice03:04
josh__after you install a package that is a game or something, is it possible to make an icon to run the file?03:04
lupineyou typed a period (.) and had the right path?03:04
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waspiuslarson9999: :( i know03:04
josh__instead of typing it into konsole all the time03:04
BallistikWhat codecs do i need to watch wmv's with totem or vlc?03:04
waspiuslarson9999: ok..i want to use a floppy and when i try to enter it through system:/media i get the error could not mount device..the reported error was mount:according to mtab,/dev/fd0 is already mounted on /media/fdo..mount failed..so i can only view it in /media and i cannot format it03:04
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james_xxxlupine: i think i typed the fulle path03:05
james_xxxlupine: sudo mv /home/james/wusb54gv4module/rt2570.ko03:05
lupinethen you need a space, then a dot (.)03:05
lupineto tell it to copy it to the directory . (which is a symlink to the current directory)03:06
james_xxxahh03:06
lupineit's hard to miss :D03:06
james_xxx lol03:06
james_xxxlupine: ok done03:06
lupineok, now type 'sudo depmod -a'03:06
larson9999waspius: hmmm, don't really know how this mouting thing in ubuntu works.  i'm used to needing an fstab but apparently it doesn't work that way.  somehow you can tell it to let an regular user mount it and edit it.  actually i haven't install my fd yet.  i was planning on doing that tonight.03:06
lupinethen we get the fun of removing ndiswrapper completely, and inserting your new module03:07
james_xxxsweet03:07
james_xxxready03:07
waspiuslarson9999: ok np..03:07
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lupineto get rid of ndiswrapper, you first have to bring down your wireless interface - so run 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 down' (I think it's be wlan0, check by running 'ifconfig' and looking for it)03:08
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Catulllarson9999: i burned the gparted iso on a cd... now i should boot from the cd?03:08
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waspiuslarson9999: i will try and change its permissions..that might help03:08
james_xxxlupine: will that disconnect my internet connection?03:08
lupineyes03:08
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james_xxxlupine: hmm...03:08
lupinei'll give you all the commands now :)03:09
lupineif it all goes pear-shaped, delete the rt2570.ko file and reboot, and it'll come back.03:09
james_xxxlupine: i have a computer right next to this one i could switch to, as well03:09
james_xxxok03:09
lupineok. after bringing the interface down, and once the lights have gone out on your stick, you need to remove the module - so run 'sudo rmmod ndiswrapper'03:09
lupinethen insert the new one - "sudo modprobe rt2570"03:10
lupinethen configure the new interface as required. Do you get an IP address etc. automatically03:10
lupine?03:10
james_xxxlupine: yes03:10
lupineok, setting it up is as simple as "sudo dhclient rausb0", then03:10
DaSkreechCatull: I'd say yes :)03:11
lupineassuming it goes well :)03:11
james_xxxlupine: rmmod will not remove ndiswrapper permanently, though, will it?03:11
waspiuslarson9999: ok found it for now...i used the umount command03:11
lupineno, just unloads it from the kernel03:11
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james_xxxlupine: so ndiswrapper can just remain installed, then?03:11
lupineif all this works, we can either uninstall ndiswrapper, or blaclist the module so it won't be loaded by default when you reboot03:11
CatullDaSkreech: im going to try this now... MPart is very complicated...03:11
james_xxxok03:11
lupineyes03:11
CatullDaSkreech: 1gig for swap rest 11,2 for / - right?03:12
james_xxxlupine: here goes, if it does not work, i will look for you from another PC03:12
lupinemoment of truth :)03:12
lupineI'll be here03:12
james_xxxlol03:12
DaSkreechCatull: What ever space you want to put for / Yes :)03:12
DaSkreechand  should be able to IRc in here anyway :)03:12
albionhello world03:12
Catullhopefully back in a couple of minutes^^03:13
lupinehello albion03:13
DaSkreechalbion: You forgot the ;03:13
DaSkreechCatull: :-)03:13
albionlol03:13
Catullmmhm... i colud start my powerbooks irc ;)03:13
lupineprogram Hello; Uses SysUtils; begin Writeln('Hello World'); end.03:14
albioni'm a new Ubuntu user... and i love it03:14
DaSkreechCatull: We should be here :)03:14
ubuntu_hello03:14
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Catull|wech-.-03:15
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ubuntu_anyone know if linux have scandisk program like spinrate?03:15
Catull-Macworks03:15
lupinefsck?03:15
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: *bows*03:16
mcrandelloubuntu_: yes every 26 times you boot up it will annoy the hell out of you by checking it :)03:16
Catull-Mac*excited* ;)03:17
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mcrandelloubuntu_: man e2fsck03:17
lupine(j/k ;) )03:17
albioni was wondering if someone could help me with my logitech QuickCam Messenger03:17
Catull-Maclol03:17
lupinewould be a very Naruto moment03:17
ubuntu_ e2fsck scan formatted HD only right?03:17
mcrandellomore or less03:18
lupinewhat are you trying to fix, exactly?03:18
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mcrandelloubuntu_: testdisk for trying file recovery from unformmated or pooched partitions03:18
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DaSkreech!webcam03:18
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:18
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DaSkreechalbion: There you go03:18
albionthank you03:19
Catull-Macdoesnt boot from the cd... ( i did the bios setup -.-)03:19
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james_xxxlupine: you there?03:19
lupineyes03:19
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lupineoop, he's gone03:19
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Catull-Mac^^03:20
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alex_hello03:20
DaSkreechalex_ Hi03:20
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Whats up?03:21
alex_any laptop users here?03:21
alex_I just installed Kubuntu with some help here03:21
alex_everything works perfectly so far03:21
alex_except for the touchpad03:21
Catull-Macnero suckz... i?m about to try another cd for gparted -.-03:21
alex_any drivers or anything out there?03:22
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james_xxxlupine: how would i check to see by what means my wireless adapter is working? lol03:22
Catull-Macone day i will install linux on this powerbook :)03:22
H5N1-birdflumcrandello: testdisk ... where do i find it ?03:22
james_xxxlupine: i am connected, but i am not sure if i'm using the new module, or ndiswrapper....03:23
alex_whoa03:23
BallistikWhat is a good video file converter?03:23
alex_what happened?03:23
Catull-Macwth?03:23
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albionalex, i'm a laptop user03:23
james_xxxhmmm03:23
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alex_what the?03:23
Catull-Mac^^03:23
imbrandonheh03:23
james_xxxwhat was that about?03:23
alex_what's going on, is that just me?03:23
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albionme too03:23
BallistikSame03:23
HawkwindNet split03:24
imbrandonnet split. noting to see here move along ;)03:24
james_xxxlupine: are you there?03:24
lupineyes!03:24
BallistikWhat is a good video file converter?03:24
lupineimbrandon: yes as well :)03:24
alex_lol03:24
Catull-Macjames_: gparted didnt work in the first place :(03:24
james_xxxgood, i was worried03:24
imbrandonlupine: ok PM03:24
lupinebloody netsplits03:24
HawkwindBallistik: avidemux ?03:24
lupineerm, not registered :(03:24
lupine#ubuntu-lupine ?03:24
alex_how do I adjust my touchpad settings?03:24
james_xxxyou mean me?03:25
Hawkwindlupine: Just register your nick03:25
Hawkwind!register > lupine03:25
lupinejames: no03:25
james_xxxok03:25
james_xxx!register > me03:25
Hawkwindimbrandon: You still need a tester for whatever it was ?03:25
lupineis ti working?03:25
james_xxx!register > james_xxx03:25
alex_anyone?03:25
lupine(I can receive PM but not send)03:25
alex_how do I adjust the touchpad settings?03:26
Hawkwindlupine: Read what the bot told you in PM and follow the instructions03:26
imbrandonlupine , Hawkwind join #imbrandon03:26
mcrandelloalex_: in the system settings look for the touchpad03:26
lupineso james - do you have it working?03:26
H5N1-birdflu testdisk ... where do i find it ?03:27
alex_k03:27
pierrethis it possible to read news with kontact?03:27
alex_it's not there03:27
lupine(james_xxx that is)03:27
alex_mouse is03:27
alex_but touchpad is not03:27
james_xxxlupine: well, i think i do.... hwo do i know how i am connected? i think i am using your module, but i may be back in ndiswrapper03:27
Catull-Macdaskreech: doesnt work from cd :(03:27
lupinetype lsmod03:27
lupinesee what it says03:27
mcrandelloH5N1-birdflu: try apt-cache search testdisk it may be in universe or multiverse03:27
mcrandelloor google it's the first hit for testdisk03:28
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lupineif it says ndiswrapper module is loaded, then that's what you're using. if it says rt2570, then it's worked03:28
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mcrandelloyou'll want to read through the docs on it anyway to make sure it's going to do what you want03:28
james_xxxlupine: i think both are showing?03:28
mcrandellohttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk03:28
lupineok, what happens when you run ifconfig rausb0 ?03:29
lupinedoes it give you interface details?03:29
mcrandelloit's mainly a data recovery type tool more so than a scanner03:29
H5N1-birdfluthnx^^03:29
james_xxxrausb0: error fetching interface information: Device not found03:29
lupine:/03:30
lupinestill using ndiswrapper03:30
lupineokay, you'll have to blacklist the module then restart the computer03:30
alex_mcrandello03:31
alex_I don't see it there03:31
alex_just mouse03:31
alex_but not touchpad03:31
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Hmm can you check the md5 sum on the CD?03:31
mcrandelloalex_ last item on the 2nd row?03:32
alex_nope03:32
alex_not there03:32
mcrandelloalex_:  try sudo apt-get install ksynaptics03:32
alex_and how do I send msges to specific people (the way you just did)03:32
alex_it seems to be installe03:33
alex_installed*03:33
mcrandelloalex_ in konversation you can open a window to that person by double clicking their name03:33
Catull-Macdask: eeehrm.. how?03:33
alex_I meant how do you make something red like that?03:33
alex_is that just formatting or a specific command03:33
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Catull-Maci forgot this is not mirc^^03:33
alex_in the guide I only see the /msg command03:33
mcrandelloalex_  just put that person's name on a line and if their client is cool it will highlight it for them03:34
mcrandellono highlight03:34
mcrandelloalex_ highlight03:34
alex_copy & paste their nick?03:34
alex_or is there a simpler way?03:34
lupine james_xxx: to blacklist, edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (as root) and add the line "blacklist ndiswrapper" to the end03:34
james_xxxlupine: i obviously did something wrong, but i don't know what lol03:34
mcrandelloor start typing it and hit tab03:34
james_xxxok03:34
alex_mcrandello: like that?03:35
mcrandelloyep03:35
mcrandelloin konversation if you have multiple tabs open and someone does that on a background tab the tab text turns red03:35
lupinethen reboot and run "sudo modprobe rt2570" then "sudo dhclient rausb0"03:35
mcrandelloyou can also have it beep or something too if you're afg03:35
alex_mcrandello: this is the error I got: E: Couldn't find package ksynaptics03:35
lupineif it doesn't work, delete the line in /etc/modprobe.d and reboot again03:35
mcrandello*afk03:35
alex_ok03:36
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james_xxxlupine: one thing i forgot to mention.... i have rt2570 blacklisted.... could that be our problem?03:36
mcrandelloalex_ you have to enable the universe repositories03:36
mcrandello!universe03:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:36
lupineyes, un-blacklist that :)03:36
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lupineand blacklist ndiswrapper03:36
alex_look like I have a lot to learn in Kubuntu03:36
BallistikHow can i change how my logon screen looks?03:37
alex_mcrandello: how would I do what you just told me to do? :D03:37
Catull-Maci?m not able to boot from the gparted-cd :(03:38
mcrandelloalex_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:38
Catull-Macgonna try to understand magic partition...03:38
jamadagnihey people,03:39
alex_mcrandello: ok... thanks03:39
jamadagnii just installed the 686 smp kernel03:39
alex_mcrandello: I'll try it now03:39
jamadagnibut i don't find a find with smp in /boot03:39
jamadagniany ideas?03:40
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Sorry left my comp03:41
Catull-Macgetiing crazy - i have free 12,2 gig - MPart only allows me 7,2 ? -.-03:41
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Catull-Macdoesnt matter - i?m lucky anybody is willing to help me ;)03:42
DaSkreechWhere did you get the 12.2 ?03:42
Catull-Macmmhm... should i go on with 7,2?03:42
Catull-Macwenn i look up in xp it shows me 12,2 free space MPart does so aswell.. actually...03:43
pierrethwho is using knotes?03:43
DaSkreechok so where are you getting the 7.2?03:43
DaSkreechpierreth: Was03:43
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Catull-Macmax.size for the new partition in MPArt03:44
pierrethDaSkreech: was, you no longer use it?03:44
DaSkreechNo03:44
DaSkreechBasKet03:44
pierrethDaSkreech: is it possible to had a view03:44
pierrethDaSkreech: http://www.kontact.org/pics/shots/notes.png03:44
alex_mcrandello: I did that, and it still doesn't show up in the system settings03:44
DaSkreechhad a?03:44
lupine james_xxx: you ok?03:45
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Ok 7.2 is a bit tight but still playable03:45
mcrandelloalex_ any time you add or change repositories you have to update it03:45
pierrethDaSkreech: i have no list of the notes i am creating03:45
larson9999Catull-Mac: are you using gparted 2.5?  some people have that problem.  maybe try 2.4 is the version i'm on.03:45
mcrandelloso try hitting the "fetch updates" button in adept or from a console do "sudo apt-get update"03:45
mcrandellothen look for it, should be there :)03:45
Catull-Maclarson9999: the gparted-cd did not boot -.-03:46
DaSkreechAh. Umm I don't use Kontact03:46
alex_mcrandello: ok, prepare to laugh, I forgot to close the system settings, I just restored the old window03:46
DaSkreech I just put Knotes in the systray03:46
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DaSkreechlarson9999: The Cd doesn't boot?03:46
mcrandelloah you have the touchpad settings now?03:46
larson9999Catull-Mac: yeah i was asking if you got version 2.5 because some people i know have trouble booting that version.  i'm using 2.4 myself03:46
jamadagni@Catull-Mac - what is MPart?03:46
pierrethDaSkreech: do you have the title list like in the image that i pointed you?03:46
alex_mcrandello: yes03:47
DaSkreechpierreth: I don't know I don't use Kontact03:47
mcrandelloawesome03:47
larson9999DaSkreech: it should but i know some are having issues with the version 2.5 of gparted.  i'm still using 2.403:47
DaSkreechLet me open it to please You :)03:47
alex_mcrandello: going to figure out how to adjust everything the way I had it in windows03:47
Catull-Maclarson9999: i downloaded gparted and burned the iso - did the bios setup and it didnt start03:47
jamadagniCan anyone answer my q about 686 kernel?03:47
mcrandelloI still can't figure out what I did to hose my touchpad03:47
alex_lol!03:47
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pierrethDaSkreech: basket is your note manager?03:47
mcrandelloI use a trackball mainly though so it's no biggie 8)03:47
Catull-Macjamadagni: MagicPartition on XP03:47
larson9999Catull-Mac: so you probably have 2.5  i'm curious now.  i'm going to dl it and see if it boots for me03:48
DaSkreechpierreth: Yeah but doesn't integrate into Knotact03:48
Catull-Maclarson9999: i?ll try 2.4 then03:48
james___lupine: i think i am up and running with your module03:48
james___:-03:48
lupineexcellent :)03:48
james___:-D03:48
alex_I could never tolerate a trackball03:48
lupineso lsmod shows rt2570 running, and ndiswrapper is not present?03:48
DaSkreechpierreth: I have a list. Doesnt look like that03:48
james___lupine: lemme do some checking here03:48
jamadagniCan anyone answer my q about 686 kernel?03:49
larson9999Catull-Mac: so far i haven't met anyone who's had any issues with that version.  i think i'll write them and see what's up03:49
lupineok03:49
jamadagniCatull-Mac: is that available for gratis?03:49
Catull-Macnope.. not really03:49
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Catull-Maca demo is available though03:49
pierrethDaSkreech: i have no list but i would like to have one03:49
james___lupine: ok all looks good, thank you so much for the help!!! i hopr this takes care of my system hangs03:49
alex_mcrandello: it looks like linux doesn't give the option of press n hold with the touchpad alone03:50
Catull-Maclarson9999: i?ll try 2.4-3 ?03:50
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larson9999Catull-Mac: there is a bug about 2.5 hanging.  i'm guessing that's what you have03:50
james___lupine is now my hero03:50
larson9999Catull-Mac: yeah03:50
james___lol03:50
lupinejames: do you want to get it to configure auto on boot?03:50
Catull-Maclarson9999: k :)03:50
lupinecool :)03:50
lupinejust don't uplug it if you can help it03:51
mcrandelloalex_ if you have double click instead of single click I think you can approximate that by clicking once then again and holding your finger on the pad03:51
james___lupine: i do, although i would have thought that it would the way it is03:51
DaSkreechpierreth: How does yours look?03:51
lupinenot quite03:51
lupineedit /etc/network/interfaces as root03:51
mcrandelloalex_ with single click to open though I think it all gets pear shaped03:51
james___lupine: i do not need to unplug it....03:51
james___ok03:51
lupinegood :). the driver doesn't like that!03:51
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larson9999Catull-Mac: If you have problems booting, it could be the video card detection. Try "manual video card" from the boot menu before reporting bugs. We are working on this issue.03:52
pierrethDaSkreech: I just have icons where the date of creation is written under and that's all03:52
lupineyou need to add two lines:03:52
lupineauto rausb003:52
Catullas long as im downloading--- mirc just is better :)03:52
larson9999Catull-Mac: maybe try that with 2.5 and see if that helps03:52
alex_mcrandello: but how would that work for dragging?03:52
DaSkreechpierreth: What happens when you click it?03:52
lupineiface rausb0 inet dhcp03:52
lupineand you're set!03:52
larson9999Catull: save the download if it works.03:52
mcrandelloalex_: click click&hold while dragging03:52
mcrandelloIOW not very well03:52
alex_mcrandello: but I would have to click the touchpad button03:52
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Catulllarson9999: i guess i just try the 2.4 :)03:53
larson9999Catull: ok03:53
pierrethDaSkreech: when i click on an icon note, the note get selected03:53
lupine james: couple of notes: firstly, the the wireless driver will need recompiling whenever you update your kernel :(03:53
james___lupine: i do thank you so much for the help, this has really been educational03:53
alex_mcrandello: in windows you can slowly touch and hold the touchpad, and then move the finger... once you lift the finger you depressed the button03:53
larson9999Catull: what are you using instead of mirc in linux?03:53
Catullaqua-chat03:53
DaSkreechpierreth: Hmm I guess that's how mine is03:54
mcrandelloalex_ yeah this is why I use the trackball ;)03:54
james___lupine: do you think this module may be included in 2.6.17?03:54
lupineI'll give you the deb-line of the repository I've set up... that way your broken gcc won't be a problem03:54
orient2000Hi! Can I install kubuntu on 1GB USB stick so I can have it potrtable?03:54
alex_mcrandello: AWWW, that is a major downside03:54
lupineI've already got one built for it (that's what I use :) )03:54
james___awesome03:54
Catullis not to bad... but doesnt work with some details03:54
pierrethDaSkreech: this is a bit primitive03:54
alex_mcrandello: oh well, looks like I will have to take my mouse with me to class :D03:54
lupinedeb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ dapper main03:54
DaSkreechYeah. Not sure03:54
lupineIt updates every day from the developer's website03:54
DaSkreech I never run kontact03:55
james___lupine: i'll add that to my repo list right now03:55
lupineyou'd want the package ralink-drivers-2.6.15-26-68603:55
mcrandelloalex_ there are certain cool things you can do with the pad in linux, like hitting it with 2 fingers is right clicking and 3 is middle clicking iirc, some other strange stuff03:55
lupineAlso the package ralink-config for a GUI wireless network tool (GTK unfortunately :( )03:55
james___lupine: should i add that to my repositories?03:55
lupineyes03:55
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alex_mcrandello: yeah, new ground for me03:56
lupinewhile you were gone, I put the ralink-drivers package that you needed on there03:56
mcrandelloif you have a motion sensor thing for parking your hard disk there's a driver out for that which lets you start programs by smacking your case03:56
lupineso you can install it if you want (if you do, you'll get an update at around 6am ;) )03:56
alex_LOL!03:57
Catulllarson9999: ill try it now... :)03:57
alex_I believe IBM has one03:57
lupineee gad, 6am is 3 hours away!03:57
larson9999lupine: not that big a deal for me... i'm unemployed.  someone should hire me.  got any jobs lying around?03:58
Catull-Macmmhm...03:58
james___lupine: if i install those packages, will that take care of the recompiling with new kernels issue?03:58
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Sup?03:58
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Catull-Macdoesnt work with 2.4 aswell03:58
larson9999i had a hd i had to smack to get working every once in a while but i wouldn't recommend using it for production03:58
lupinejust about. basically, when a kernel update shows up you'll need to *not* upgrade until the appropriate ralink-driver- package also shows up03:59
Catull-Macis there anything to watch out, while burning the cd? -.-03:59
larson9999Catull-Mac: try the manual video card selection03:59
alex_let's leave smacking for the future, let's say when machines can actually fight back03:59
james___lupine: ok, gotcha03:59
larson9999Catull-Mac: with 2.503:59
james___lupine: very much apprecited, once more03:59
james___appreciated*03:59
lupineI have to add support for new kernels automatically, so it might be as much as 24 hours behind, but shouldn't be a problem03:59
lupinenp03:59
lupineso is the ralink-drivers-2.6.15-26-686 package showing up in adept?04:00
james___lupine: i am checking now04:00
lupineok. ralink-config is pretty cool, by the way04:00
mcrandelloa good trick for drivers not in the kernel source is to leave their source code somewhere on the disk like a subdir in /root or /opt and that way they're all in one place, just cd into them and make:make install after each new kernel04:01
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Can you md5 the iso?04:01
lupinelets you have profiles for different networks, etc.04:01
larson9999Catull-Mac: try selecting the video card and selecting vesa04:01
lupine(not that i use it much on my desktop PC, mind ;) )04:01
james___lupine: yep, packages are showing in adept04:01
Catull-Macdaskreech: i dont know how to^^  :(04:01
Catull-Maclarson9999: k04:01
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: What are you on?04:02
DaSkreechThe mac or the PC?04:02
Catull-Macxp04:02
DaSkreechOk google for md5sum.exe04:02
Catull-Macxp the cd04:02
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larson9999Catull-Mac: i have an old machine here that won't boot the same gparted cd my new one does.  maybe same issue.  i'll see if that works for me04:02
james___lupine: ralink-drivers-2.6.15-26-686 is not showing, but 386 is04:02
lupine_85hrm. It'll be fixed by the morning :)04:03
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james___lupine_85: i need to go to bed, but this has been great04:04
james___take care and god bless04:05
lupine_85ok, nighty :)04:05
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matt___Hi04:08
CatullDaSkreech: got md5sum.exe04:10
matt___does anyone know if there is still a problem with installing xserver-xorg-core?04:10
mcrandelloit should be good now04:10
CatullDaSkreech: moved it in the windows directory04:10
Catullthe iso aswell?04:10
DaSkreechok04:10
DaSkreechNo04:11
DaSkreechon the command line go md5sum then the path to the ISO04:11
DaSkreechYou will get a long "number"04:11
mcrandellomatt___: make sure you're getting ubuntu10.404:11
DaSkreechWhere you downloaded the CD it will also give you a MD5sum "number" if they match you are good to go :)04:11
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matt___mcrandello - thanks it looks like it will install 10.404:12
mcrandello10.3 was the bad one as I understand it04:12
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larson9999Catull: sorry.  false alarm  my old machine does boot it.  i was putting in the wrong cd :)04:14
Catull-.-04:14
nick_I need a higher level of backup than keep, any recommendations? Requirements: rysync like, able to choose the time of the backup04:14
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Catullim not in the position to put in tehe right pasth in the command line... i guess im 2 n00b -.-04:15
Catullor it is 2 late -.-04:15
lupine_85rsync+ cronjob?04:15
nick_lupine_85: thats what i was thinking04:16
nick_but keep is pretty easy to use04:16
nick_just can't set the time04:16
lupine_85run keep via. a cronjob? ;)04:16
lupine_85or is it annoyingly GUI with no command-line control?04:17
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nick_the problem is i just booted my computer and its running a back up so i can't really do anything04:17
pierrethbasket looks cool!04:17
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nick_yea i guess the only problem I have with keep is that you can't set the time04:18
Catullmmmhm... ok... i am not able to get md5sum running -.-04:19
Catulllarson9999: when you burned the cd, did you made anything special?04:19
josh__i'm trying to run A FEAR SERVER someone help me04:20
Catulli burn the cd for example in track-atz-once - mode...04:20
Catullmaybe disk-at-once better?04:20
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nick_oh and mp3's now don't play in amarok04:22
nick_all i did is reboot my computer04:22
nick_I didn't run any updates or install anything04:23
nick_wait maybe it was cause keep was taking up all my cpu04:23
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Catull^^ md5sum done on the iso... now lets check the sites md5sum -.-04:25
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danishis there a graphical program for handling rpm deb tar packages04:26
CatullDaSkreech: how tdo i get the md5sum from the website?04:26
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DaSkreechCatull: Give me the URL for the download page04:27
supernixI just tried to do a install of Ubuntu but I got an error about breaking something04:27
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mcrandellodani_beginner: like kpackage?04:28
supernixwell warning that is04:28
nalphaguys there is flash creator like macromedia flash in ubuntu?04:28
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dani_beginnermcrandello: yes like adept is a graphical program04:28
mcrandelloI think kpackage can handle all those you listed04:29
dani_beginnermcrandello: thankyou04:29
dani_beginnermcrandello: how do i direct a question toward a single person in IRC like u did do i simply put colon after the name04:30
mcrandelloapt, kiss, rpm, bsd, tgz, and whatever gentoo uses04:30
mcrandellojust mention their name in the reply dani_beginner04:30
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dani_beginneroh cool mcrandello thankx for your help04:30
mcrandellonp04:31
larson9999Catull: i didn't do anything special.  have you burned cds from iso before?  if you look at the cd in windows or mac do you see files on it and not the *.iso file?04:31
Catulli see the files right04:31
supernixhmmm does anyone know why adept has the word break beside the ubuntu-desktop when I try and install it04:32
dani_beginneranybody know how i can make firefox open a new tab automatically when i type a link in the address bar04:32
Catulland yes i burned isos  :(04:32
larson9999Catull: hmm, what is the machin?04:32
larson9999Catull: well, gparted rocks!  when it works04:32
Catulli guess if the md5sum is ok.. i try the manual grahic choice thing ..04:32
Catulllarson9999: i believe you... :)04:33
larson9999Catull: lol.  does it not boot at all or do you get to some point and it stops?04:33
Catulllarson9999: what was the hint with the graphic again? its 4:30 in the morning over here ;)04:33
dani_beginnerhas anybody written extension for firefox here04:34
Catullit trys to boot... but goes on to boot from hdd...04:34
Catullim using nero software... maybe thats the problem -.-04:35
imbrandonhttp://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/    <-- for those of you that would like the new amarok04:35
larson9999Catull: oh, that doesn't sound like the same issue.  the video issue would be after gparted starts.04:35
imbrandon( version 1.4.2 )04:35
imbrandoni'm off to be , gnight all04:35
Catullgood night04:36
larson9999Catull: i don't know if the issue is nero or not but k3b! rocks, too :)04:36
Catull-.-  guess why im trying to change the OS ;)04:36
aseigoRiddell: ping04:36
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larson9999Catull: what speed did you burn at?04:37
Catull40x04:38
Catulli am able to see the files anyway...04:38
Catulliso 966004:38
Catullcd-rom-mode04:38
larson9999sometimes a lower speed helps.  i don't know.04:39
larson9999the checksum was right?04:40
Catullwhen i open the cd i see a gparted file and a isolinux-directory with 7 files in it... do you see the same?04:40
dani_beginnermcrandello how can i remove the desktops tab from taskbar04:40
Catulldont know... waiting for daskreech to check the sum on the webpage04:40
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee04:40
DaSkreechCatull: Whoops you gave me the URL?04:41
ubuntuHi, how would I access my hda3? I am booted in the CD Boot not the original OS. I need to go into vesa driver mode.04:41
Catullin the query ;)04:41
Hobbseehi DaSkreech04:41
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ubuntumount hda3?04:42
DaSkreechubuntu: Not sure check media:/04:42
dani_beginneranybody know how to remove the 'desktops' panel04:42
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ubuntuDaSkreech nothing there, I am booted from CD.04:43
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matt___dani_beginner , right click just to the left of the 'deskop' panel and select remove desktop preview and pager04:44
Catullill try a last time to boot from the gparted cd -.-04:44
dani_beginnermatt: thx my panel bar was locked so i couldn't see the menu thx now i figured it out04:45
DaSkreechlarson9999: I don't see a MD5 sum :-(04:45
springmanwhat is the best way to add the wlassistant into the startup so it tries to auto connect to last known network?04:45
larson9999DaSkreech: maybe they don't have one :)04:45
DaSkreech=-o04:45
Catull-Macnope... its sourceforge04:45
DaSkreechHow... dare ... they...04:45
Catull-Mac:D04:45
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Catull-Maci try that usb-device thing now04:46
matt___dani_beginner - glad you fixed it!04:46
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Catull-Macgoing to crash my mp3-player :>04:46
larson9999Catull-Mac: in 2.4 there are 17 items in the base directory. 12 if you discount the links04:47
intelikeyso, what do linux users do ?04:49
Catull-Macmmmhm... maybe i should burn the cd on the mac? xp suckz -.- did i mention this before?04:49
intelikeyoh yeah they install software...04:49
Catull-Mac^^04:49
Catull-Macthe 2.4 looks far better then the 2.5 ... 17 items...04:50
Catull-Macanother try with 2.404:51
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DaSkreechpl04:51
DaSkreechok04:52
dani_beginnermatt__: what is the best editor for html and c i am learning those languages and i want to use gcc and firefox but i need an editor who has syntax high lighting ability04:52
lupine_85kate? :)04:52
dani_beginnerlupine_85: thx04:52
DaSkreechdani_beginner: Close your eyes and throw a stone04:52
Catull-Maclol04:53
lupine_85quite handy and has really good capabilityies when it comes to blocks of code ({ })04:53
DaSkreechIf it's in linux it probably has everything you mentioned04:53
dani_beginneri know but i just wanted another opnion my friend mentioned VIM04:53
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intelikeydani_beginner xemacs vim-improved  kate           hehhe "ed"04:54
intelikeyif you bite on the 'ed' joke i'll know you're green....  :)04:54
larson9999Catull-Mac: apparently there is a known problem burning the cd with dvd burner.04:54
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larson9999oh boy another 'best editor' fight04:55
DaSkreeched rocks!!04:55
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larson9999The Hybrid Editor XE is the best04:55
matt___dani_beginner - I use Kate for editing php and html as it is good at highlighting code in differnet colours, but i dont know about C04:55
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matt___maybe kdevelop?04:55
intelikeyDaSkreech yeah the syntax highlighting Xpecally04:55
Catull-Maclarson9999 aou are kidding -.-04:56
larson9999Catull-Mac: kidding about what?04:56
Catull-Maci have a dvd burner on the xp -.-04:56
intelikeykdevelop is an ide04:56
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah and you know you can code so much better cross eyed04:56
intelikeylol04:57
verbosewhere can i get a mirrors list for repositories for apt? i've google'd and can find mirrors to download kubuntu, but not apt repositories04:57
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Yes but you are burning a CD right?04:57
Catull-Macyeaaah04:57
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dani_beginnermatt__: i want to stay away from ide's  i will just use kate. when i reach intermedia lvl i will switch to vim and emacs just for learning experience thx04:57
larson9999Catull-Mac: from the moderator of the gparted forum: There are some issues with dvd writers with the current version. You should check the bugs page to see if your issue exsists first. Try this test version I posted lastnight. The problem is most likely a dvd writer issue. It's the same stuff the other 10,000 people told me about. ;-)04:57
DaSkreechAnd you are using the CD section of Nero?04:57
intelikeyDaSkreech i just use cat and echo to do my coding....04:57
intelikey:)04:57
BallistikDoes anyone know a fix for the KDE 3.5.3 screensaver problem?04:58
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DaSkreechGnome?04:58
Catull-Macim gonna burn the cd on the mac... lets see if it works -.-04:58
larson9999Catull-Mac: why not try the live usb of gparted?04:59
intelikeyi want one of those little 3.5" dvd burners04:59
Catull-Maclarson9999 thtas the next step... crashing my mp3-player ;)05:00
Catull-Maclets see what mac os x does with the iso :)05:00
supernixhmmm does anyone know why adept has the word break beside the ubuntu-desktop when I try and install it05:00
DaSkreechintelikey: how do you delete a line two lines up05:01
verbosesupernix: do you have universe and multiverse repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list?05:01
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supernixYes as I recall I think it is05:01
intelikeyDaSkreech it can be done,  but that was "obviously" a joke.05:01
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DaSkreechintelikey: And as An obvious extension to the joke how do you delete a line two lines up :)05:02
H5N1-birdfluHI~ I wonder if there is winrar like software in linux , anyone know?05:02
verboseH5N1-birdflu: www.rarsoft.com i believe has some (winrar site)05:03
verboseH5N1-birdflu: do you want to create or extract rars?05:03
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JucatoH5N1-birdflu: Ark can do .rar stuff, you just need to install the proper utilities05:03
supernixthis is actually one of the lines main restricted universe multiverse  or part of it05:03
JucatoH5N1-birdflu: you need to install "rar" and "unrar" so that Ark can create/extrat .rar files05:03
poseidon...........perhaps we should have 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' races....05:04
larson9999i think i got a warning that the penalty for using rar or unrar without paying for it was death05:04
Hawkwindlarson9999:  ??05:04
Jucatolarson9999: really now?05:04
Jucato^_^05:04
Hawkwindlarson9999: rar/unrar is absolutely free05:04
H5N1-birdfluOH really let me check on ark05:04
JucatoHawkwind: err... depends on which package was installed05:05
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JucatoIn Dapper, unrar is the non-free version, while unrar-free is the free version05:05
HawkwindJucato: How so ?  I've never gotten such a warning with rar/unrar in linux, since there is a linux version specifically made05:05
JucatoIn Breezy, iirc, unrar was the free version, unrar-nonfree was the non-free version05:05
HawkwindJucato: Ahhh, guess it depends on which source you get it from.  If you get it from PLF then it's all free05:06
JucatoHawkwind: I don't know about larson9999's statement. I'm just saying that there are two versions or rar/unrar05:06
HawkwindJucato: I never really knew that.  I've always run distros where it's free of charge05:06
JucatoAFAIK, the free rar/unrar can only process RAR files up to  a certain RAR version.05:06
dr_willistheres Free and then theres 'free' :)05:07
JucatoHawkwind: free/nonfree here is used not in the monetary sense05:07
Catull-Mac*now we will see, what happens*05:07
HawkwindJucato: Heh yes, I realize that05:07
larson9999Hawkwind: yeah, the other day i was browsing and came across a site talking about how you had to pay for it.05:07
Jucatolarson9999: maybe it's for the WinRAR software?05:07
supernixI have the following in my repository listing (main restricted universe multiverse )05:07
dr_williswine winrar.exe05:07
dr_willis:)05:07
larson9999Hawkwind: Jucato maybe05:07
dr_willisthen after 30 days when it expires.. remove/reinstall it.05:07
larson9999Jucato: come to think of it i was in windows :)05:08
Hawkwindlarson9999: I know you have to pay for the Windows version but not for the linux version05:08
Catull-Mac:(((( doesn?t work05:08
dr_willisI see Rar used in so many 'wrong' ways/instances  - thats its scary.05:08
intelikeysupernix are you wanting to add the gnome desktop to your installation ?05:08
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: :-(05:08
Jucatofrom wikipedia: "he encoder (the main Windows version known as WinRAR) is distributed as shareware, but Roshal has released the decoder's source code under a license that allows free distribution and modification, on condition that it is not used to build a compatible encoder"05:09
Jucatos/he/the05:09
supernixyes Gnome and the usual apps that are installed as well05:09
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Do you have the Kubuntu CD?05:10
dr_willisJucato,  makes ya wonder as to how encorceable that license is. Could ya clean room reengineer it then?05:10
supernixwhat would be the best course of action intelikey ?05:10
intelikeysupernix try  installing   "gnome - The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components"05:10
supernixok05:10
supernixty for your help intelikey05:10
JucatoI wouldn't know. ehehe05:10
intelikeyn welcome05:10
Catull-Macdaskreech i downloaded the iso ....05:10
dr_willisrar's features are nice when used properly.. but egads.. i see so many  sites/downloads that use rar.. when zip works better. :)05:11
intelikeyerrr u05:11
JucatoThe thing is, I know that Ubuntu would not put something legally questionable in its repositories05:11
Catull-Macdooooo... another iso -.-05:11
dani_beginnerwhich version of GCC should i download the 405:11
dr_willisdani_beginner,  sudo apt-get install build-essential  for a the core compiler tools.05:11
JucatoI always thought RAR's are more compressed and smaller than ZIP's. Not sure about .TAR.GZ's05:12
intelikeygcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)05:12
dr_willisJucato,  they 'can' be smaller.. but they can also take 10x to compress and 10x to extract..  (10x time)  and to save a huge... 1 mb on an avi. :P its not worth it. lol05:12
Jucatoeheh! I guess it's a case-to-case basis, then05:13
actiniccool, i just tried 'alien' .... it works!05:13
dr_willisGotta love  downloading a split Rar.. that then takes forever to extract.. then ya realize that some how one of the rar parts is missing.05:13
dr_willis:P05:13
Jucatohehehe05:13
actinictranslation: binaries05:13
dani_beginnerdr_willis: i just   installed gcc 4.0 base, compiler, docs and libraries using adept i thnx05:13
actinic:)05:13
larson9999Jucato: yeah, the rar part isn't free.  that's what i read05:14
supernixWill OpenOffice still work as usual while running Gnome ?05:14
intelikeydani_beginner you should still install 'build-essential'05:14
intelikeydani_beginner it's a meta package that pulls in several thing normally needed to compile things05:15
Jucatolarson9999: it's not free in the freesoftware sense of the word. but the algorithm for decompressing has been released (see wikipedia quote)05:15
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larson9999Jucato: yeah, i was looking for ways to compress.05:16
intelikeysupernix should be no noticable differance05:16
Jucatolarson9999: the "rar" packages can handle that. it's also "nonfree" (free as in freedom)05:16
dani_beginnerintelikey: k thx05:16
larson9999Jucato: and wanted to break it up like rar and since it wasn't free i didn't use it.05:17
intelikeywelcome05:17
supernixA year ago I tried Kubuntu and when I tried running programs compiled for Gnome under KDE they would look awful if they worked correctly at all05:17
dr_willissupernix,  odd . i mix and match gnome+kde all the time. and they work and look fine.05:17
supernixBut back then the fonts did not look nearly as good as they do now05:17
Jucatoagain, it's free (monetarily speaking). I don't think Ubuntu would put something in the repositories, that would make it legally liable, even if it's in multiverse05:18
dr_willisyou can have different themes for each 'set' :P if ya want05:18
dr_willisFonts have improved greately in the last 3+ years05:18
supernixI know it was that lack of good font support that kept me back with Windoze05:18
supernixthat and lack of hardware support05:19
intelikeylack of hardware support ?05:19
dr_willislack of 'os support by the hardware makers' :)05:19
dr_willisget it right! Lol05:19
supernixYes I forgot which hardware was causing issues but I remember lack of USB 2.0 being a concern for me05:20
larson9999if we all don't buy hw that doesn't ship with linux drivers, things might change05:20
supernixYes true lack of OS support05:20
supernixThey said it was due to hardware vendors needing to protect thier intellectual property but funny how things magically work so great for Windows05:20
dr_willisHeck - i rember when all these windows 95 machines had USB ports. that rarely worked.. due to the OS lacking support for them. :)05:21
dr_willisIts amazing how BADLY ive had hardware work for me under windows at times.05:21
supernixLOL yes I have one such computer in mind05:21
dani_beginnerdr_willis: is there a process viewer in kubuntu05:21
dr_willisIm still amazed that installing this Joystick driver.. demanded i reboot the pc.05:21
dr_willisdani_beginner,  i just use 'top'05:21
supernixan old Win95 machine to be exact05:22
Jucatodani_beginner: press Ctrl+Esc05:22
intelikeylinux supports more hardware than any other os    bar none.     there is propriatary hardware that "purposly" work on only one os    that's true,  but if you have that; it's ya own falt.05:22
larson9999until recently i've always been about 5 years behind the times hw wise05:22
dani_beginnerjucato: cool thx05:22
Jucatowell, I had the experience of having a mouse that worked perfectly in Windows and Linux, but stopped working in Linux after kernel 2.6.15-2505:23
supernixI have a serial modem for my fiancees PC but the dang thing will only run at max 26kbp05:23
JucatoI ended up having to buy a Logitech mouse that costed 5x as much...05:23
supernixit is supposed to do up to 56kbps05:23
dr_willisJucato,  heh  I got a logitech mx 518 - best mouse ive ever had.05:23
larson9999Jucato: i had an optical mouse that had similar issues.  worked fine in windows but was kinda heywire in linux when i upgraded the kernel.  modfiying xorg.conf fixed it.  it was a ge mouse05:24
Jucatohehe! Logitech is good. But now my desktop looks like a dalmatian: a mix of black and white parts... (no black mouse available)05:24
Catull-Macwuaaaaaaaaaah -.-05:24
dani_beginnerhow do i uninstall open office05:25
dr_willisHmm.. i dont think i have any white mice. :P05:25
dani_beginnerits doesn't show up in add/remove05:25
Jucatolarson9999: well, it worked perfectly in Linux but only up to a certain kernel release. no amount of modifying xorg.conf fixed it05:25
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: What kind of PC is this?05:25
Catull-Macxoc shuttle -.-05:25
larson9999Catull-Mac: the kubuntu cd didn't boot either?05:25
Catull-Macxpc05:25
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Catull-Macdid not try yet05:26
supernixSure would be nice if they would release a Kubuntu book05:26
intelikeyJucato one might ask why you are running a kernel that doesn't utilize all your hardware.     almost the only reason to change kernels is hardware support.    so why upgrade to one that don't work for you ?05:26
Catull-Macusb stick didnt work aswell05:26
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Jucatointelikey: coz the newer Linux distro releases will be using the newer kernels by default?05:27
Catull-Maci?m gonna use MPart -.-05:27
intelikeyJucato so ?05:27
Jucatointelikey: which means I wouldn't be able to upgrade to those releases, for example Edgy05:27
intelikeyi run a 2.4 kernel....05:27
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larson9999Catull-Mac: what's mpart?05:27
intelikeysure you can05:27
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intelikeyyou can run 2.4 in edgy05:28
Jucatointelikey: let me guess, bake/build/make my own kernel?05:28
Catull-MacMagic Partition... or can i use the kubuntu-cd without a partition?05:28
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larson9999these days, stuff gets backported to 2.4 so quick lots of people i know are just sticking with 2.405:28
intelikeyyou could,  but installing/upgradeing to next release  doesn't mean you have to remove the kernel that works.05:29
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Jucatointelikey: unless of course it's a fresh install, right?05:29
larson9999Catull-Mac: i don't remember if the installation process will let you resize the windows partition but i t hink it will.05:29
intelikeyeven then you could specify the version05:30
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Jucatointelikey: is that option available? I mean specifying what version will be installed? doesn't the installer come with only 1 kernel version?05:30
Catull-Macits the live cd - should work from cd -.-05:30
intelikeybut i really don't care what kernel you use.   just thought i'd pose the question.05:31
intelikeyJucato you can apt-get it after install05:31
supernixwell hold yah nose here comes the cold water05:31
supernixGnome and extras installed and ready05:31
larson9999Catull-Mac: yeah it does but i thought you wanted to install it05:31
supernixSee YaLL in a minute hopefully05:31
intelikeysupernix05:32
Catull-Macactually i wanted to -.-05:32
supernixYes intelikey ?05:32
Jucatointelikey: I'm not really familiar with kernels. That's why I thought it wouild be easier to buy a new mouse... I also thought that newer kernels would be more secure since the patches are mostly fixes05:32
intelikeyah just acknowledging05:32
supernix:D thanks again05:32
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soulriderhi05:33
intelikeyJucato yeah but you can use the security patches on existing also   but like i said no skin off my nose either way.  just pointing out that this is linux,  there's your way my way and another way   but never a best/right/only way05:34
intelikey:)05:34
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Jucatoheheh! thanks for the info anyway. I've always thought that you couldn't go lower than the distro's default kernel...05:34
Jucato(I believe the 2.4 kernel is also smaller?)05:34
intelikeyna you can run anything you can boot.  but if you go pre 2.2  some apps will prolly break.05:35
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intelikey2.4 can be much smaller.    i have a 2.4 that has ide scsi and ext#fs  support built in so i don't need an initrd and it will fit on a floppy05:36
MrObviousEven 2.4 can break some things.05:36
Jucatohhmm....05:37
MrObviousI tried 2.4 on Mandriva once, and had to go back lol05:37
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intelikeyyes  it  "can"  break some things,   but a 2.6.15  can break some apps also....05:38
Jucatoer.. this isn't a Kubuntu question, but a little bit related: Is there a way to make OO.o open documents in an already opened window, something like MS Word?05:38
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: You have NTFS right?05:38
MrObviousHawkwind: Geek05:39
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intelikeylol05:39
Jucatoeheheh05:39
HawkwindMrObvious: I just know how to follow my simple how-to on my forums for building it :P05:39
MrObviousThat moonie wrote? :p05:40
HawkwindUmmm no05:40
MrObviouslol05:40
MrObviousUber geek alert05:40
HawkwindThis is Ubuntu specific, silly05:40
HawkwindMrObvious: It happens to build .deb packages for the kernel for ya05:40
JucatoHawkwind: you know how to follow the simple howto that you yourself wrote??05:40
HawkwindJucato: I didn't write actually05:41
intelikeyit prolly requires an initramfs to access ext2fs   so i don't want it.05:41
Jucatoaaah.05:41
Hawkwinds/write/write it05:41
Jucatoehehe05:41
Hawkwindintelikey: Not even remotely close05:41
Jucatos/write/write.... ^_^05:41
Catull-Macdaskreech right05:41
MrObviouslol05:41
DaSkreechI guess PArtition magic the :)05:42
DaSkreechthen05:42
Catull-Maci?m about to burn the ubuntu-cd05:42
intelikeyHawkwind well if you built in ext#  at least you did one thing right    :)05:42
intelikeysad that *buntu can't get that right.05:42
Catull-Macif have only one hour left -.- wasted all the night :(05:43
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Catull-Macits hard to be a n00b ;)05:43
MrObviousHawkwind: You are just jealous because you don't get out and exercise like I do. :P05:43
intelikeyodd  for most nubs it's like breathing.05:44
Jucatoare initrd and initramfs related?05:44
dr_willisyes. :)05:44
dr_willissome how. :P05:44
HawkwindMrObvious: I bet I get out more than you do actually.  I have kids that keep me excercising all day long05:44
Jucatoexcept that they both have "init" ...05:44
dani_beginnerhelp05:44
intelikeyJucato initramfs is the next generation of initrd05:44
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Yeah I know05:44
dr_willisinitramfs - is the initial ram file system. thats loaded by the initrd i think.05:44
MrObviousHawkwind: Lol. That's good. I remember one time I was gonna go bike riding and you're like "I need to". I've been running about now at night and doing almost 2 miles.05:45
MrObvious:D05:45
dr_willisor am i getting too many initits messed up05:45
dr_willis:)05:45
Jucatooh. I was just wondering about it coz I saw that MEPIS doesn't have it in the menu.lst...05:45
intelikeydr_willis initramfs is the next generation of initrd05:45
Jucatoinitrd I mean05:45
dr_willisthe initrd thing i think is oftenused to load raid, or other drivers for the main kernel. (i belive)05:45
dr_willisintelikey,  if you say so.05:46
MrObviousWell I'm gonna go run. Have fun #kubuntu05:46
Ironheadhello everyone05:46
intelikeyit is.  it's what is replacing initrd05:46
intelikeyMrObvious k05:46
dr_willisInitrd-TNG! :P05:46
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intelikeyIronhead almost missed you,   shalom.05:48
Ironheadintelikey : hi im new here05:48
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: On the other hand we have had people here for days trying to setup and configure Kubuntu so hang in there05:48
Catull-Maci will if i dont bother you ;)05:49
intelikeyIronhead new to linux ?05:49
intelikeyirc ?      or just this channel ?05:49
Ironheadintelikey nope05:49
Ironheadjust this channel05:50
intelikeyor playing multiplayer notepad at only a few days old ???     hehhe    oh05:50
shane_I am trying to make a writeup on the Kubuntu forums about how to install nvidia drivers in Kubuntu. The problem is I still have not figured out how to do it on a fresh unaltered installation. I am trying to install the nvidia drivers first before I do anything else. Is that the right thing to do or should I update or do something else?05:50
Hawkwind!nvidia05:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:50
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HawkwindWhy not just follow that.  Very plain and simple and just....works05:51
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BallistikDoes anyone know a good video converter?05:51
shane_thats a guide for unbuntu not kubuntu, the slight differences messes up newbs like me.05:51
intelikeyyeah   if they would keep it all cli  it'd be universal05:52
Catull-Macwohooooo kubuntu cd works at least :D05:52
apallo19CLI FTW!!05:52
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shane_well thats why I want to type it all out with screenshots.05:52
dr_willisshane_,  sudo apt-get install synaptic   then run synaptic and follow the guide. :P in many cases05:53
intelikeyapallo19 i may not want to know but   ftw ?05:53
Hawkwindshane_: That guide is all the same basically05:53
apallo19for the win05:53
dr_willisshane_,  i feel the 'best' way is to do it from the shell.  that way you can install them when X is broke.05:53
apallo19from the gamer lexicon05:53
shane_ dr_willis you probably just gave me the best bit of information yet.05:54
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dr_willisshane_,  I also feel that synaptic should be included with Kubuntu by default... but everyone yells at me when i suggest that.05:54
dr_willisshane_,  so i let THEM explain to the noobs why the guides are all written with synaptic in mind. :P05:54
intelikeyapallo19 k.    not a gamer maybe why i didn't know.05:54
Hawkwinddr_willis: We've got plans to change that actually....the guides will be centered around Kubuntu as well05:55
shane_dr_willis good point05:55
Catull-Macdaskreech the kubuntu cd works :)05:55
dr_willisHawkwind,  so you will have duplicates of every guide.. one for kubuntu, one for ubuntu.....  Oh joy!05:55
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dr_willis:P05:56
Hawkwinddr_willis: No sir we won't05:56
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cwraigdoes any one know how to start vnc as another terminal windows05:56
Hawkwinddr_willis: We've got plans of doing it right the first time once we get started :)05:56
shane_Hawkwind well I am about to post one once I get it working. If it is good enough feel free to copy it / use the screenshots.05:56
dr_willisWe need Pictures! lots of Pictures! and flash animations of where to click! im am gettting sick of people saying "I cant find the apply button!"05:56
shane_by the way how do I take a screenshot?05:56
cwraigfor example disp 1-6 is command prompt disp7 is Xorg can i make disp8 a vnc connection?05:57
larson9999screenkast!05:57
dr_willisprintscreen button. :P05:57
Hawkwindprntscrn button05:57
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: :-) Did Mpart work?05:57
shane_where does it save the file?05:57
Catull-Maceeehrm... did not run it yet ;)05:57
goop2shane_: I think its ctrl-print05:57
dr_williscwraig,  ya could run a new X session on 8, then run vncviewer in it.. or anyother window manager/desktop05:57
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Catull-Macdaskreech shoul i first?05:58
intelikeyshane_ there is also an app or two.   but the [prn-scrn]    gennelly works05:58
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: I would say yes. Why were we not doing it in the first plcae?05:58
cwraigdr_willis, vnc viewer isnt fully compliant with kde (stuff wont go full screen) its a known bug so is there a real light weight window manager that will rund vnc?05:58
DaSkreechYou have a trail version of MPart?05:58
shane_intelikey dp you know where it saves the files?05:58
Catull-Macdaskreech: k.... will do it^^05:58
intelikey~05:58
Goop2anybody know how to change the Kmenu icon?05:59
Catull-Macdaskreech: it was the 12 and 7 gig thing ;)05:59
DaSkreech:-) I honestly thought that you had done that a while back :)05:59
dr_williscwraig,  theres about 5+ vncviewers out there. :P i tend to use the one with vnc4server/viewer.. kde also has its own vncviewer.05:59
intelikeylast time i tried it it was anyway05:59
dr_williscwraig,  and i cant recall a problem with any of them.05:59
dr_williscwraig,  and vncviewer is just another app. any window manager can run it.05:59
cwraigDr thanks i will give it a go06:00
dr_williscwraig,  install a very light window manager like fluxbox perhaps. or windowmaker. or pick any of the dozen there in the repos. :)06:00
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DaSkreechshane_: FIgured out ksnapshot?06:01
=== intelikey just did startx for the first time X has been up sense boot time
DaSkreechintelikey: You give Xubunt a whole new meaning :)06:02
shane_DaSkreech well its not ctrl+prtscrn its just prtscrn and then it pops up some program and asks me where to save.06:02
shane_so yeah I got it now.06:02
DaSkreechshane_: Right I was wondering why you were asking the question in the first place :)06:02
Catull-Macdaskreech query06:03
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Ack06:03
DaSkreechSyn?06:03
Goop2some reasone it didnt used to be just print for me.. that was in Breezy though06:03
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Sorry forgot you don't get Geek jokes :)06:03
DaSkreechYes?06:04
nixternalErrors were encountered while processing:06:04
nixternal python2.4-minimal06:04
nixternalE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:04
nixternalDaSkreech: help!!!06:04
DaSkreechRight06:04
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nixternaloh well, i meant to grab one line, and grabbed 306:04
nixternallol06:04
DaSkreech What;s the problem?06:04
supernixWell doggy I just got finished logging into my Gnome been playing with it a lil06:05
nixternalcna't upgrade06:05
supernixLooks nicer than I recall06:05
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supernixTY for the help06:05
nixternalgood ol' edgy with a broken package06:05
Catull-.-06:05
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Catull-.- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,06:06
supernixI like Evolution but I thought you could only run it under Gnome but now that I found out all things work equally well under either WM then I shall definately give it a try06:06
CatullDaSkreech: anyway... i got a full version of MPart06:06
nixternalCatull: you need to register your nickname06:06
DaSkreech!register06:06
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:06
DaSkreechCatull: Good06:06
DaSkreechnixternal: Packages.ubuntu.com ?06:07
nixternalsudo apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade / and -f install all give me the same error06:07
nixternali can never remember how to fix it either06:07
shane_dr_willis thanks I got synaptic installed, going to go with this writeup the rest of the way !nvidia06:08
CatullDaSkreech: i have the option just to set uo a partition or a partition for OSs, e.g. linux with the possibilitix to choose swap ext2 and ext306:08
shane_!nvidia06:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
DaSkreechRight06:08
DaSkreechWhat's broken nixternal python?06:08
CatullDaSkreech: 1gig for the swap right?06:08
nixternallooks like it06:08
DaSkreechYeah06:08
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GullyFoylehrm, i had to reinstall windows on my dual boot system Big surprise, right?) and now i can't boot kubuntu. i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21526, and then it drops me to a root shell06:10
kontikiHi - What sw lets me view the bash terminal sessions in real time, for people logged into my box? (laptop)06:10
sivaniconWhen I look at the display settings I dont see resolution 1680x1050? I've installed the nvidia drivers what else do i need to do?06:11
CatullDaSkreech: ext2 or ext3?06:11
DaSkreech306:11
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DShepherdDaSkreech: your so high up on the list06:12
DaSkreechOf?06:12
DaSkreechOh your list :)06:12
DShepherdthe rooms list06:12
DaSkreechSorry I don't know why IRC tends to do that06:13
DaSkreechI am?06:13
DaSkreechI'm like ... D or something06:13
DShepherdyes you are06:13
DShepherdi know.. want a screenshot?06:13
DaSkreechha ha :)06:14
DaSkreechOf course06:14
Catull-Macdaskreech: can i start right now with the installation or may i wait 1time for xp to boot?06:14
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: I'd go ahead but of course I have little sympathy for XP being in the Emergency Ward06:15
Catull-Mac;>06:15
Catull-Macinstallation is running... i?m kinda excited :D06:16
Catull-Macgo go go06:16
intelikeydid xp break a nail again ?06:17
Catull-Macdaskreech... it hasnt asked me where to install -.-06:17
DShepherdDaSkreech: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/Screenshot-7.jpg06:17
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Which Cd did you get the Desktop or the alternate?06:18
DaSkreechDShepherd: Pastebin for Photos?06:18
Catull-Maceeerm desktop (livecd)06:18
DShepherdDaSkreech: no.. its just a place for photos.. and stuff.. not a pastebin06:19
DaSkreechOk you should be ok then. It's booted up?06:19
DaSkreech:)06:19
intelikeyoooh yuch06:19
DaSkreechDShepherd: Greatest Movie :)06:19
Catull-Macyepp....06:19
DShepherdDaSkreech: movie?06:19
Catull-Macdaskreech: yepp aaah... there is an install-link06:19
DaSkreechand you clicked the install button?06:19
Catull-Macnot yet06:19
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: haha! see one step beyond noobeness :)06:20
Catull-Mac:D06:20
intelikeyah go on click it.06:20
Catull-Mac*scared*06:20
Catull-Macmay I?06:20
Catull-Mac;)06:20
intelikeythen you can hate the installer as much as i do06:20
Catull-Maclol06:21
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intelikeygo on... click it....06:21
intelikeyjust pointy clicky thingy06:21
Catull-Macoops i did it (not again) the first time :)06:21
DaSkreechHit me baby? One more time06:22
=== DShepherd thinks the guys in kubuntu are bit on the weird side sometimes.
intelikeyCatull-Mac let me ask one quetion,  is there going to be anything non-standard about your install ?06:23
Catull-Macnot yet hopefully :)06:23
intelikeywell you may like the installer then.06:24
intelikeyit's pretty ridged.       no  hell it's extreemly ridged.06:24
DaSkreechintelikey: :-)06:25
intelikeyas long as you want the default everything  it may be great.   but don't expect it to do anything else.06:25
GullyFoylei can't find breezy amd64 on the web so i can reinstall. anyone know where it is?06:25
shane_I have Synaptic package manager installed on Kubuntu. In the !nvidia guide it says "In the Software Preferences dialog that comes up, click the Add button." I do not see a Software Preferences dialoge nor an add button.06:25
intelikeyshane_ not dapper ?06:26
shane_intelikey how do I tell?06:26
intelikeylsb_release06:26
Catull-Macooh ooh... hre comes the hdd partition part -.-06:26
intelikeyor is it  lsb-release06:26
shane_intelikey yes its dapper06:26
intelikeythen why are you looking for breezy ?06:27
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GullyFoylei'm looking for breezy06:27
shane_intelikey I did not know I was looking for breezy06:27
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shane_does anyone here have nvidia drivers installed on the latest Kubuntu release? I am having a difficult time finding out how.06:28
intelikeyGullyFoyle please see what was supposed to be yours ^06:28
intelikeyand shane_ sorry for the mis-address06:29
GullyFoylei'm looking for breezy so i can install it and upgrade to dapper, which worked before. dapper won't run from livecd, the mouse just jumps around, and the alternate cd won't work either.06:29
intelikeyGullyFoyle hmmm that is different.    ok.  let me look.06:30
GullyFoylesince i can't seem to boot dapper after i reinstalled winxp on my dual boot sysytem.06:30
GullyFoylei get this error when ichoose kubuntu in grub:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2152606:31
shane_GullyFoyle ahh never install windows after linux06:31
shane_install linux last if possible06:31
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matt___but dont forget when installing windows first to leave some space on the hd for linux06:32
GullyFoylei had already installed them both, they worked fine but then windows got so f**** up that i reinstalled it on sda1 and now kubuntu won't boot even though the partition is still intact06:32
Catull-Macdaskreech  and now?06:32
shane_Is the !nvidia driver install guide for breezy ubuntu?06:33
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Where are you?06:33
Catull-Macafter the installation -.-06:33
Catull-Macguess still on the livecd06:33
Catull-Macdaskreech  not sure if he took the right partitions o_O06:34
Catull-Maclogout?06:34
DaSkreechWhat do you mean you aren't sure?06:34
GullyFoylekubuntuamd64 will not work from cd even though i had it running before. the only way it worked was when i apt-get upgraded from breezy and then fixed the things that broke, like sound and such06:35
DaSkreechDShepherd: Sup?06:35
Catull-Maci choose the new partition, but he didnt showed the 1gig partition for the swap^^06:35
shane_lmao no one responded to the question of "does anyone here have nvidia drivers installed on the latest release of kubuntu" that tells me that there is poop in a creek and I am in it trying to go against stream and with no convenient way to get out.06:35
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Hmm Ok did it ask you to make one?06:35
Catull-Macyepp06:35
DaSkreechAlright06:36
Catull-Macanyway...the installation is over..logout?06:36
DShepherdDaSkreech: checking out Xara xtreme. Its pretty fly! Ron-Cey and david might ditch inkscape for this06:36
DaSkreechUmm Sure06:36
Catull-Macbios boot from hdd1?06:36
GullyFoylei had nvidia running fine on dapper until i reinstalled winxp on the other partition. i was p;laying unreal tournament online and everything06:36
DaSkreech:-)06:36
DaSkreechand cross your toes :)06:36
Catull-Mac:)06:36
shane_GullyFoyle I need to pay you to tell me how to install nvidia drivers?06:37
Catull-Macwhats that dragon? -.-06:37
DShepherdCatull-Mac: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx. pay me pay me06:37
DShepherdoops06:37
DShepherdwrong person06:37
DShepherdshane_:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx. pay me pay me06:37
DaSkreech:-)06:37
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Catull-Machehe06:38
shane_last time I did that I ended up in that creek i was referring to earlier06:38
DaSkreechJucato of the Beautiful Women!06:38
DShepherdoh ok06:38
Jucatolol!06:38
Jucatohi DaSkreech!06:38
DaSkreechshane_: The question is did you have a paddle?06:38
JucatoDaSkreech of the... um.... I dunno :-D06:38
shane_DaSkreech read my post at 04:3506:38
dani_beginnerwhen i try to something with kpackage it asks me for a root password i enter and keeps asking me i think it would be wrong but the same password is ok for adept06:39
DaSkreech:-)06:39
Catull-Macdaskreech: xp is starting^^06:39
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Which Dragon?06:39
shane_GullyFoyle are you still here?06:40
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Catull-Macwtf?06:40
Catull-Macerror 626 while executing batch^^06:40
shane_DShepherd is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx this all I have to do? nothing else to install?06:40
GullyFoyleanybody use the amd64 livecd?06:40
DaSkreech*sighs*06:41
Catull-Macuuummm...06:41
DShepherdshane_: according to the lasttime i check06:41
DShepherds/check/checked/06:41
DaSkreechok Time to reboot with the live CD06:41
JucatoIs it normal that numbering/bullets that I made in OO.o Writer does not appear in KWord?06:41
Catull-Macme?06:41
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: reboot with the live CD and install gparted06:41
GullyFoylewhenever i run it, the mouse cursor flies around and random apps open and then finally the screen locks06:41
shane_DShepherd ok here goes again06:41
shane_DShepherd So nothing at all with the stuff listed here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:42
intelikeyGullyFoyle i thought i had it.....       As you can see, linuxiso.org is temporarily offline due to a hardware06:42
intelikey   failure. Rick and Jered are working to repair the server at this time, and06:42
intelikey   we hope to have linuxiso.org back up and running as soon as possible.06:42
DShepherdshane_: follow that guide06:42
GullyFoylei'd like to install dapper directly but i can't seem to get either the livecd or the alternate to work06:43
DShepherdshane_: you asked me how to install it. not how to get it to work :-D06:43
DShepherdshane_: going to still pay me?06:43
DaSkreechHaha06:43
DaSkreechshane_: he needs money06:43
Catull-Macdaskreech livecd is running06:44
DaSkreechopen adept and install gparted06:44
shane_DShepherd lts discuss that once I get it working06:44
GullyFoyleoh well i'll look elsewher for help.06:44
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Catull-Macdaskreech from the cd?06:45
DShepherdDaSkreech: live cd should have gparted on it already06:45
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DShepherdDaSkreech: i know ubuntu live does06:46
Jucatohm...06:46
Catull-Macdaskreech: during the installation there was the possibility to do a partition...but i thought MPart did it already... another install?06:47
DaSkreech:-)06:47
JucatoIIRC, Kubuntu Desktop CD does not have a GUI partitioner, but I think Ubiquity uses a portion of QtParted?06:47
DaSkreechI guess06:47
DaSkreechLook at the partitons in gparted and see if htey match up to what you expect06:47
DShepherdwhat does iirc mean again? I can never remember06:47
shane_DShepherd whats up with steps 4-6 @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:47
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JucatoIf I Remember/Recall Correctly06:47
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Jucatobut it could also be "If I Ran Continuously"? ehehehe06:48
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DShepherdshane_: which one of the steps 4 - 6?06:48
Catull-Macdaskreech..there are only 2 again -.-06:48
kunjanquick question, wht was thing called for ubuntu that would let you share files, play music, share photos, kinda like webmin06:49
kunjanubuntu remote or somehting?06:49
DShepherdJucato: thanks06:49
kunjanif i rememberd the name i would google :(06:49
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: are they the right sizes?06:50
DShepherdkunjan: ubuntu center?06:50
Catull-Macdaskreech: may i delete that one an make new partitions?06:50
kunjanyeah!06:50
kunjanthanks DShepherd06:50
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DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Yeah06:51
Catull-Macthe win partition and 1 linux partition with only 7,84mb -.-06:51
DShepherdkunjan: no prob06:51
Catull-Maceeerm...06:51
Catull-Macdoooo06:51
Jucatoooh I just suddenly remembered that they're going to have a "Kubuntu Hardware Database" (similar to Ubuntu's) in Edgy, I think...06:51
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: Doooo?06:51
kunjandoes ubuntu center stream music btw?06:52
Catull-Macdoooh (simpsons -.-)06:52
DaSkreechJucato: Who cares ahve you seen the Ubuntu hardware?06:52
Catull-Maccant delete06:52
DaSkreechIt's reports everythign as unkown06:52
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: What is the file sysyem?06:52
JucatoDaSkreech: ehehehe. maybe I'm just jealous that Ubuntu has one. lol06:52
DaSkreechIt's useless thought06:52
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Catull-Macfirst is ntfs second linux-swap06:53
JucatoDaSkreech: maybe it reports whoever is using pirated copies of Ubuntu/Kubuntu...06:53
intelikeygullyfoyle06:53
DaSkreechYeah@_@06:53
DaSkreechWhy Didn't I think of that 0_o06:53
Jucato^_^06:53
shane_DShepherd start st step 4. Since I am on Kubuntu I don't get Synaptic. I installed synaptic and have it open now. I click on Settings/Repositories and get a dialog. The problem is according to that writeup there is an ADD button. Well I see no ADD button.06:54
Catull-Macwhen i try to delete the secon it says: the partition is embedded (eingebunden in german)06:54
Jucatoshane_: could you give me a link to that "writeup"? just curious...06:55
Catull-Macthe program is namend qtparted btw^^06:55
DaSkreechCatull-Mac: I know :)06:55
Jucato^_^06:55
DaSkreechOk I'm going home now06:55
DaSkreechBye guys06:55
shane_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for reference it is the very one that links from !nvidia when you type that here in the #Kubuntu06:55
Jucatoaaaw...06:55
Jucatobye DaSkreech!!!06:56
DaSkreechJucato: Take good care of Catull-Mac06:56
Catull-Macdaskreech:   ummm bye :)06:56
Jucatoshane_: unfortunately, the page is heavily Ubuntu-based... hold on a sec. let's see if I can dig something up06:56
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Jucatohm... it's loading kinda slowly...06:56
shane_Jucato that would be uber.06:56
Catull-Macyou will :)06:56
Jucatotsk tsk.. that page is my pet peeve...06:57
shane_try this06:57
shane_!nvidia06:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:57
Jucatoshane_: it's loaded06:57
DShepherdDaSkreech: tell shane_ how to add restricted via adept06:57
DaSkreechIt's on the wiki with screenshots06:58
Jucatoshane_: I don't have Synaptic, so would it be ok if I guide you in Adept?06:58
DShepherdshane_: I am a gnome guy.. sorry ;-)06:58
shane_Jucato that would be even better06:58
DShepherdDaSkreech: where on the wiki?06:58
DaSkreech I advise opening adept by using Alt+space06:58
DaSkreech!repos06:58
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:58
JucatoDaSkreech: Alt+Space??? Isn't that for Katapult? :-D06:58
DaSkreechThe ones on the Kmenu tend to give you Add/Remove which is hobbled06:58
Jucatoshane_: close Synaptic and launch Adept06:59
JucatoDaSkreech: the Adept from K Menu > System is the ful one :-D06:59
DaSkreechJucato: Yeah but I'm sick of people telling me that There is no Manage repositores under the Adept Menu06:59
Jucatolol06:59
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DaSkreechJucato: Oh yeah Who findsthat one :-P06:59
shane_Jucato Adept open06:59
DaSkreechPlus it's thinly vield excuse for me to pimp katapult06:59
josh__ok i just installed firestarter, can i close it and it will still be running?06:59
josh__or do i have to minimize it06:59
Jucatoshane_: then in Adept menu, click on Manage Repositories07:00
JucatoDaSkreech: yey Katapult!07:00
DShepherdshane_: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html <-- that should show you how to add restricted to your source.lst07:00
Jucatowith it was themeable, though07:00
shane_Jucato got that open07:00
fyyrest0rmbut..but..there's no "manage repositories" in adept <ducks>07:00
DaSkreechJucato: What?07:00
DaSkreechKatapult?07:00
Catull-Macdaskreech: what time do you hasve right now? here it is 7 am07:00
Jucatoyeah...07:00
DaSkreech12:0007:00
DaSkreechor 00:00 if you want to get military07:01
DShepherdshane_: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html <-- how to install nvidia on kubuntu07:01
Catull-Mac:)07:01
Catull-Mack...07:01
DShepherdDaSkreech: 12:00am too!! where you at man?07:01
JucatoDShepherd: doesn't explain the part about adding/enabling the "restricted" section..07:02
DaSkreechUmm India07:02
DaSkreech:-D07:02
DShepherd:-D07:02
intelikeyjosh__ close07:02
DaSkreechJucato: I forget isnt' restricted already there?07:02
DShepherdJucato: its all there on the last link i sent07:02
JucatoDaSkreech: depends on which one07:02
DShepherdJucato: check it out07:02
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shane_DShepherd let him finish helping me !07:03
DaSkreechJucato: Alt+Space -> Ctrl+C07:03
DaSkreechaseigo: He asked a stupid question :)07:03
JucatoDaSkreech: only limited to 2 types of "Display"07:03
Jucatolol07:03
intelikeyoh it is 00:00 in india ?07:03
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DShepherdI doubt it is07:04
DaSkreechGotta run07:04
DaSkreechBye guys!!07:04
Jucatoaseigo is alive!!!! how's KDE 4 doing? Good luck with aKademy/Akademy07:04
intelikeythat's what i get for being 'indian'07:04
DShepherdDaSkreech: lata..07:04
DaSkreechHa ha07:04
Jucatoshane_: sorry for the interruptions07:04
DaSkreechWonder how many times a day aseigo gets asked that07:04
shane_Jucato is ok07:04
DShepherdgot the email for jBain DaSkreech?07:04
Jucatoshane_: I was trying to look for easier references that combined them all07:04
DShepherdfrom*07:04
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shane_Jucato I am going to make my own writeup and post it in the Kubuntu forums.07:05
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intelikeywell  someone asked me if i ever slept....  about 18 hours ago...   so i think i'll try it.  it may be fun.07:05
shane_Jucato as soon as I get it working07:05
Jucatoshane_: anyway, make sure that "restricted" is included/enabled in the following "deb" (not deb-src) lines:07:05
Jucatoshane_: (don't worry about that, we're working on it)07:05
intelikeylater folks.      or eariler as case may be .07:05
Jucatointelikey:  lol07:05
Jucatoshane_: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted" <--- this should be enabled07:06
shane_Jucato xx meaning us right?07:06
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Jucatoshane_: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted" <-- this should be also enabled07:06
Jucatoshane_: depends on where you are. it could be us., uk., or in my case, ph.07:07
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josh___is it possible to hack linux?07:07
shane_Jucato i see where it says Components: main restricted07:08
Jucatoshane_: "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted" <---- you may have to add "restricted" to this one, then enable it07:08
DShepherdjosh__ yes it is possible07:08
Jucatojosh___: depends on what you mean by "hack"...07:09
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josh___uh take control of the computer07:09
Jucatodevelopers/programmers are usually called hackers, but in the good sense of the word07:09
Jucatojosh___: that's usually called "cracking/crackers" nowadays, I think07:09
shane_Jucato in the Components column of each of those it says "main restricted" and all are bold so I assume enabled (not commented out)07:10
josh___oh ok07:10
Jucatoshane_: yep. you presume right. just double check if you want07:10
josh___well could somebody take control of this OS?07:10
josh___easily?07:10
shane_Jucato I right click and the only option is disable07:10
Jucato but more importantly, make sure that the "dapper-security" line has "restricted"07:10
Jucatojosh___: possible? yes. easily? no07:10
josh___niiice07:11
shane_Jucato so by default these are all in proper order for nvidia driver install?07:11
Jucatoshane_: well, I suggest you take one more step to make sure07:11
josh___i know someone who can open ur cd drives, turn off ur computer,apparently wreck ur hard drive07:11
Jucatoshane_: btw, don't forget to click on Apply and then Fetch Changes whenever  you made some changes to it07:11
josh___he disabled someone's internet and all the lights on his router turned on and started blinking07:11
Catull-Macim outta here..thx so far...cu soon :)07:12
josh___could a hacker like that get into kubuntu with firestarter and a hardware firewall running?07:12
shane_Jucato so the deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted needs to have "main restricted restricted" under Components07:12
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Jucatoshane_: no. just "main restricted"07:12
Jucatoin some installations, "restricted" isn't there by default, that's why I mentioned it07:13
shane_Jucato ok then I did not have to make one single change07:13
Jucatook then07:13
josh___i just got a hit on my firewall07:13
josh___is someone trying to pull something?07:13
josh___yeha well i'll tell that guy to do his worst07:14
Jucatook then, now you need to install the "linux-restricted-modules-xxxx" that matches your linux-image-xxxx07:14
shane_Jucato even though I did not change anything.. oddly enough I went ahead and clicked OK then Fetch Changes... it did something... too fast for me to read07:14
Jucatoshane_: what it did was to update your cache. no biggie07:14
shane_Jucato xxxx = 386?07:15
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Jucatoshane_: if that's what you are using07:16
shane_Jucato is there a way to tell?07:16
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Jucatoshane_: in Konsole: uname -r07:16
shane_well I get 2.6.15-26-386 and in Adept it shows as that being installed already.07:17
shane_Jucato^^07:17
Jucatoshane_: so linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is installed already?07:18
shane_Jucato as well as linux-restricted-modules-common07:18
Jucatogood07:18
Jucatonow all you have to do is install nvidia-glx07:18
shane_Jucato it says installed in green next to them both07:18
shane_Jucato edit any conf files?07:19
Jucatoshane_: huh? install nvidia-glx, then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" in Konsole07:19
Jucatoor "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"07:20
JucatoI think they do the same thing07:20
shane_Jucato argh I just tried to install nvidia-glx and it started but when it goes back to Adept it doesn't say "installed" it says "not installed" no change07:20
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Jucatoshane_: I guess it's time to go to the command line07:20
shane_Jucato ohh dun "Apply changes"07:21
shane_Jucato duh my fault07:21
shane_Jucato i hit fetch but not apply07:21
shane_Jucato it shows installed now07:21
Jucatoehehe07:21
Jucato^_^07:21
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Jucatoshane_: now in Konsole, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" or "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"07:22
shane_Jucato either or?07:22
Jucatoyep.07:22
shane_Jucato ok the first one then07:22
Jucatoeheh07:22
Jucatothat's the one I used. but the wiki says the 2nd one.07:22
arepie__!repositories07:22
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:22
Jucato@_@07:22
shane_Jucato alrighty it did its thing07:23
Jucatoshane_: now you have to restart X. save everything that needs saving, the hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace07:23
shane_Jucato looks like it just backed up a file07:23
Jucatouhuh07:23
shane_Jucato ok here comes that Creek with the feces in it and me with no paddle. BRB07:23
Jucatolol07:24
Jucatogood luck07:24
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shane_Well there was no poo in the Creek after all07:25
arepie__i've read the managing repositories in kubuntu, and in my reps list, i have 4 "universe" component, should i add "multiverse" to all the 4  ?07:26
Jucatolol07:26
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mhonnhi...07:26
mhonni had problem about install xmms07:27
shane_Jucato I am going to ask your opinion on something....07:27
Jucatoarepie__: probably, if you need something from multiverse07:27
Jucatoshane_: yep?07:27
mhonnhow to play mp307:27
shane_Jucato http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43320 what about something like this?07:27
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hasanwhich application do I need to send/receive faxes ?07:28
Jucato!mp3 > mhonn07:28
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Jucatoshane_: I can't really recommend since I haven't tried it yet. but my personal opinion... I prefer to know what I'm doing, what's being added or removed07:30
shane_Jucato yeah I like the idea though.. this may not work 100% but the idea behind it could be great if scripted properly.07:30
Jucatoshane_: it's up to you. you could also read the comments below it to see how successful or safe it is07:31
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Jucatoshane_: just reading the "what it does EXACTLY", I have some issues with it already...07:33
Jucatobut I haven't checked the exact code/script yet.07:33
shane_Jucato I was just saying that having a script to do it all for you would be nice for a fresh install, I have never seen anything like that before.07:35
Jucatoaseigo: good luck on aKademy/Akademy! Will the papers/talks be made available online after the conference? (sorry to disturb you)07:35
aseigoJucato: usually most of it is, yes..07:36
aseigoJucato: i don't think it'll happen this year, but next year i'd like to see an actual proceedings be produced07:36
Jucatoshane_: btw, you might want to try out Automatix or EasyUbuntu07:36
aseigobut we'll see07:36
Jucatoaseigo: that would be nice. I'm looking at the conference schedule and there are a lot of good topics07:37
shane_Jucato I will look those up07:37
shane_Jucato thanks for the help I appreciate it07:37
Jucatoshane_: this is for Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/07:37
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Jucatoshane_: this is for EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/07:37
shane_Jucato is automatix working for the latest version of Kubuntu?07:40
Jucatolast I heard, yes07:41
Jucatothere are Kubuntu-specific instructions I think07:41
Jucatohere yah go! http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38#Installing_on_Kubuntu_6.06_Dapper_Drake07:41
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Jucatojust take note that the instructions are more command-line oriented07:42
Jucatoerr... I just discoverd a major error on that page...07:42
Jucato!automatix07:43
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:43
Jucatoexcuse me...07:43
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shane_Jucato hey i just installed it... what error?07:44
tobias_how do i install this www.getdemocracy.com?07:44
Jucatowell, it's not really an error but more of a "extremely NOT recommended"07:44
shane_Jucato uhh ohh07:45
Jucatowhich method did you use?07:45
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shane_Jucato Automatic Automatix Installer07:45
Jucatooh07:46
shane_Jucato I did these commands:07:46
shane_wget http://www.getautomatix.com/files/automatix-installer07:46
shane_chmod 755 ~/automatix-installer07:46
shane_./automatix-installer07:46
JucatoI was referring to #4 and #5, the manual ways07:46
Jucatoshane_: don't paste multiple lines... ^_^07:46
shane_Jucato ahh its been a while forgot about that07:47
Jucato^_^07:47
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shane_Jucato I am closing everything and using automatix07:47
Jucatook good luck!07:48
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idiot-001how do i suspend kubuntu to RAM?07:55
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minhcomhello everybody07:55
fritschidiot-001: just click on the battery icon and choose it ..07:56
unix_infidelidiot-001: depends on how your computer handles it.07:56
fritschidiot-001: if it`s not available, click on configure and enable the acpi_helpers07:56
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fritschidiot-001: but if it will work ist another thing07:56
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idiot-001ar~ i am new to linux~ so where should i click?07:57
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lnxkdewhat package I have to install to enable file sharing betwen linux PCs conected to the same rauter07:59
lnxkde??07:59
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lnxkdeI try to configure the sharing with the Syatem setting tools and with kcontrol07:59
lnxkdeas root of course and dont work, I cant change anything08:00
lnxkde....08:00
_rince_mrgn08:00
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lnxkde_rince_ u know?08:01
_rince_know what?08:01
tobias_how do i install this www.getdemocracy.com?08:03
tobias_its a debian package08:03
tobias_for ubuntu08:03
lnxkdeeny .deb08:04
tobias_I dont seem to have gdebi, it opens in ark for some reason08:04
lnxkdedpkg -i package.deb08:04
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lnxkde_rince_ how to fileshareing in kubuntu?08:04
tobias_so I write "dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb" ?08:04
_rince_tobias: and hope there are no further dependencies08:05
tobias_cool08:05
tobias_thanx08:05
_rince_lnxkde: you want to share between 2 linux boxes?08:05
lnxkdetobias_:  sudo dpkg -i  package.deb08:05
tobias_u should try that democrazyplayer too my friend said it rox08:05
lnxkde_rince_:  yep08:05
tobias_oh08:05
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_rince_lnxkde: for that i use nfs08:06
tobias_now im confused08:06
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tobias_ok Ill write "sudop dpkg -i package.deb"08:06
lnxkdeno08:06
tobias_without the p08:06
lnxkdeyep08:06
lnxkdenice and easy08:06
tobias_thanx:)08:06
lnxkdethe sudo is giving you super user powers to control your system08:07
lnxkdeis the same as root08:07
lnxkde:)08:07
idiot-001i am new to linux~ how do i suspend Kubuntu to RAM08:07
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tobias_what is the path for my desktop btw?08:08
tobias_nevermind08:08
tobias_lol08:08
tobias_I found out08:09
lnxkde_rince_: I dont get it...08:09
lnxkdefirst time configurating kubuntu for filesharing08:09
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_rince_lnxkde: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/08:15
_rince_but maybe you should not stick to the word in that tutorial but try to merge that knowledge with some ubuntu-wiki maybe08:16
lnxkdethankx08:16
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tobias_I got the democrazy player installed but I cant find it in any menu08:21
tobias_help tobi!?08:21
Jucatotobias_: what happens when you try to run it in Konsole?08:23
tobias_jucato: I can run it in konsole?08:23
Jucatohold on a sec08:24
Jucato!democrazy08:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about democrazy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:24
tobias_oh, it should have some info about democrazy since it seems so cool08:24
tobias_and its made for like ubuntu08:24
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Jucatohow did you install it, btw? .deb ?08:24
tobias_.deb08:24
tobias_"sudo dpkg -i package.deb"08:25
Jucatooh. try typing this in Konsole "kbuildsycoca --incremental" then once it finishes, try looking at K Menu again08:25
tobias_no database available it says08:26
tobias_strange08:26
Jucatothat's ok08:26
tobias_but its in the menu!08:26
tobias_:D08:26
tobias_thanx!08:26
Jucatono problem08:27
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tobias_hmm08:31
tobias_jucato: what could the reason that it wont play the file i select after searching inside the program?08:32
Jucatoer.. I wouldn't know. I don't even know what democrazy is...08:32
Jucato@_@08:32
tobias_jucato: its like i push play and it blinks and nothing happens08:32
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tobias_jucato: u should try it, my friend says it rox, its a video media channel streamer:)08:33
unix_infidelis there anyway to have a daemon start as root when a user starts X?08:33
tobias_jucato: internet Teevee!08:33
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Jucatooh08:33
Jucatomaybe it has something to do with the media format?08:33
unix_infideleg, i'm trying to run tpb -d as a user.08:33
tobias_yes08:33
tobias_hmm08:33
unix_infideli've tried using sudo in a startup script but i get xosd error.08:33
tobias_maybe i need codecs08:33
idiot-001i am new to linux~ how do i suspend Kubuntu to RAM08:34
Jucatotobias_: what format does democrazy try to play?08:34
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tobias_jucato: I got other files to work :)08:36
tobias_jucato: I think maybe the first file i tried to play sucked08:37
tobias_jucato: cus all other files work and the one that didnt was unusually small08:37
Jucatoprobably :-D08:37
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tobias_jucato: u should try this program, all the movie files i tried so far are downloaded in seconds08:40
tobias_it must be like a filesharing thing I dunno08:40
Jucatoehehe! I'm not much into videos that much :-D08:40
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tobias_oki:)08:41
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idiot-001i am new to linux~ how do i suspend Kubuntu to RAM08:59
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Pensa`MIAI was wondering if there is any universal cd image writer for kubuntu09:02
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JucatoPensa`MIA: you mean burn an ISO to CD?09:03
Pensa`MIAyeah, but also images created with windows and stuff09:03
Pensa`MIAlike nero images09:03
Jucatohmm... nrg images are a bit tricky, though09:03
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Jucatobut K3b can burn ISO's09:03
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Pensa`MIAI have one small windows program called imgburn and I'm looking for something similar09:04
Pensa`MIAit can burn about every possible image fil09:04
Pensa`MIAI hate booting into windows :)09:05
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JucatoPensa`MIA: I think it's possible to install Nero for Linux. but I'm not familiar with it09:05
Pensa`MIAI'd prefer a native linux package09:05
Pensa`MIAah well, brb I'll burn it in windows :)09:06
Jucatoerr... it is a native linux package... @_@09:06
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ironfroggyI have two directories with the same files. how can i sync them, when changes may have been made in either?09:09
ironfroggyi want to copy the updated and new files from each directory to the other.09:09
CVirusironfroggy: man ln09:09
Jucatoironfroggy: You can just make one of the directories a symlink of the other09:09
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ironfroggyno, no i cant.09:10
Jucatowhy not?09:10
ironfroggyone of them is a remote share09:10
Jucatooh09:10
ironfroggywhich is not always available09:10
ironfroggywhat im actually doing is keeping a local copy of the remote files i use, and i want them to stay synced automatically09:10
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ironfroggyand then ill be symlinking all the local files into the mountpoint, so when the remote share is not available, the files i want to use offline are still available.09:11
ironfroggyat the same path09:11
Jucatohow about making the remote share folder the symlink of the local folder?09:11
ironfroggyhow could that work?09:11
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ironfroggywhat would actually be on the remote share, just symlinks to my laptop? seems kinda... pointless.09:12
Jucatowell...09:12
Jucatohmm...09:12
ironfroggyi was thinking of rsync, but i cant make heads or tails or some of the example rsync usages to tell if its right for this.09:13
ironfroggyspecifically, if it can handle changes on either end.09:13
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redondo81Hi averyone, is there anyone can help me to install a new theme on kde?Thanks09:20
RawSewageI would do this first09:21
RawSewageSystem Settings -  Panels09:21
RawSewageMenus09:21
RawSewageClick the Settings box09:21
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RawSewagetell me when youre done09:21
Jucato.....09:22
RawSewageNow you have a Settings in your KMenu with easy to access system controls.  one of those is Theme Manager09:22
redondo81ok, I'm in the kcontrol center09:22
RawSewagenow go to Panels09:22
RawSewagethen to the Menus tab09:23
RawSewageClick the Settings box09:23
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RawSewageclick Ok09:23
redondo81I've try to apply a new theme, but the taskbar doesn'r change09:23
Jucatoredondo81: what theme are you trying to install/apply?09:23
RawSewageDid you do that09:24
redondo81Vista makeover09:24
RawSewageno one ever does that when I tell them09:24
RawSewageI have no idea why09:24
redondo81I downloaded it from kdelook09:24
JucatoRawSewage: coz it's.. um... i don't know :-D09:25
JucatoSystem Settings is there anyway....09:25
RawSewagepfft09:25
RawSewagethis is better09:25
Jucatohehe09:25
RawSewageSystem Settings doesnt have Theme Manager09:25
redondo81ok ok, now also the taskbar is changed09:25
redondo81thank you very much09:25
RawSewage?09:25
redondo81you're great09:25
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redondo81:)09:25
RawSewagewhat are you talking about09:25
RawSewagewe didnt even do anything with themes yet09:25
JucatoRawSewage: Theme Manager seems to be quite... unusable... lately?09:26
RawSewagewhy09:26
Jucatoi mean when it comes to .kth files09:26
RawSewagehow do you install themes09:26
RawSewageseems like every theme has a different install method09:26
RawSewageit's very confusing09:26
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JucatoWhat are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=309:26
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redondo81I installed a theme that was in the list09:27
RawSewagecool09:27
RawSewagebookmarked09:27
JucatoRawSewage: .kth files in Theme Manager only works if you have the other appropriate themes installed... otherwise you get a very broken theme...09:27
RawSewageIm using Embassy09:27
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RawSewageoh09:28
RawSewagehave you ever tried Embassy09:28
Jucatois it in KDE-Look?09:28
RawSewageyeah09:28
JucatoI'll look into it09:28
RawSewageone of the high rated ones09:28
RawSewagemy taskbar is tiny and transparent09:29
RawSewagesingle row09:29
JucatoI do wish they work on Theme Manager or replace it with something. It's one aspect where GNOME beats us silly :-D09:29
Jucatohehe! then it might not be useful for me...09:29
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RawSewageno09:29
JucatoI have no panels visible by default09:29
RawSewagethats not part of Embassy09:29
Jucatoaaah09:29
RawSewageI shouldve said, I also make my taskbar tiny and transparent09:30
Jucatoehehe09:30
knubbeanyone having problems with firefox? since yesterday when i start it, i see it loads and then it disappears. when i try the 2nd time it works.09:30
Jucatoit looks kool09:30
RawSewagedid you install Embassy already09:31
Jucatonot yet09:31
JucatoI'm reading the prerequisites, and this is what I meant09:32
JucatoEmbassy won't work unless you have those other "themes" installed already09:32
Jucatoand I have none of those...09:32
Jucatoexcept Crystal09:32
RawSewageit works out of the box09:32
RawSewageI did a fresh install of Kubuntu yesterday09:33
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Jucatook let me try it09:33
RawSewageinstalled Embassy with Theme Manager09:33
JucatoI may be wrong... I hope I am :-D09:33
RawSewageit seems to all be there09:33
DjDarkmanhy ,I`ve just installed compiz and xgl ,how do I use/configure them?09:33
RawSewageum09:33
RawSewageI forgot09:33
JucatoRawSewage: did you install QtCurve, VistaInspirate, etc. separately?09:33
RawSewageno09:33
RawSewagejust opened the kth with Theme Manager09:34
Jucatook I'll try09:34
Jucatohm.. how about Kbfx?09:34
DjDarkmanbtw is it safe to update to the latest xserver-core?09:34
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). The fixed package should now be available on all servers/mirrors09:34
JucatoRawSewage: still downloading09:35
Jucatoit could be that Embassy  is one of those very rary .KTH files that actually install everything it needs09:35
RawSewageDjDarkman, gconf-editor,09:35
RawSewageit's in Apps09:36
JucatoRawSewage: you're in Kubuntu, my friends...09:36
Jucatos/friends/friend09:36
RawSewagehe asked about Compiz config menu09:36
DjDarkmanthank you RawSewage ,I`ll run it from the terminal :)09:36
RawSewageis there one for KDE09:36
DjDarkmanbut I need it for kde09:36
Jucatoit gconf-editor installed when you install XGL/COmpiz?09:37
Jucatoalso, we don't have an Applications menu....09:37
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RawSewageI always used gconf-editor for Compiz09:37
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RawSewagein Kubuntu09:37
JucatoRawSewage: did you have both GNOME and KDE installed on the same machine?09:37
RawSewageyes09:37
DanaGHas ANYONE managed to get visualizations working in Amarok?09:37
RawSewageI think so09:37
DanaGI can't.09:37
Jucatothat explains it then09:37
Jucatothere's no gconf-editor in Kubuntu09:37
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DjDarkmanI have both two but I need it for kde09:37
RawSewagemaybe there is after installing Compiz09:37
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juhakkiwhy amarok stop songs, and then skip the next song..is it something wrong with xine, coz there are errors in amarok "Xine audio...is busy"09:38
RawSewageDjDarkman, um why09:38
DjDarkmanRawSewage: because I use kde09:38
Jucatojuhakki: what are songs are you trying to play?09:38
RawSewageI dont think there is one for kde09:38
juhakkimp309:38
Jucato!mp3 > juhakki09:38
DanaG!libvisual09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libvisual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
JucatoDjDarkman: you might want to visit www.ubuntuforums.org and search for an answer there...09:39
DanaG!visualizations09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about visualizations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
DanaGargh.09:39
DjDarkmanand does compiz has anything to do with kde`s trancelucency effect?09:39
juhakkii would like to use ogg, but i can't listen those with dvd-player and in car :S09:39
RawSewagejust hold ALT+Mouse Wheel09:39
RawSewageroll the wheel09:39
Jucatojuhakki: I sent you a PM09:40
Jucato!mp309:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:40
Jucatojuhakki: you need to install libxine-extracodecs in order to play mp3's09:40
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DanaGI've installed libvisual and libvisual-plugins and xmms, but they don't work for Amarok.09:40
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DanaGIn SuSE, there was an amarok-xmms package that made it work.09:40
Jucatoto be able to install libxine-extracodecs, you need to enable "multiverse"09:40
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:41
Nrikhow to configure OSS?09:41
TheFuzzballhello, what do I need to be able to play AVI files in kaffeine09:41
TheFuzzball?09:41
RawSewagelibxine-extracodecs09:41
RawSewagesame as mp309:41
TheFuzzballI think I already have them09:41
TheFuzzballbut avi isn't working09:41
DanaGIf nobody has an answer, I'm going to bed.09:42
rrbizlol09:42
JucatoDanaG: sorry, I'm not familiar with it09:42
rrbizjust checked in, let me see if I know09:42
DanaGMaybe there's a #amarok09:42
RawSewageTheFuzzball, maybe install VLC09:43
Jucatothere is09:43
TheFuzzballk09:43
DanaGI'll deal with it tomorrow,  I think.09:43
redondo81Hi, do you know a program similar to Roboform for Win for Linux?Thanks09:43
DanaGI'm just curious if someone has it working.09:43
DanaGs/someone/anyone/09:43
DanaG(daaang, that vim command IS handy.)09:44
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RawSewageI could never figure out console-based text editors09:44
RawSewagethey make no sense09:44
DanaGI still use nano.09:44
Jucatonano for me...09:44
enzo_!pastebin09:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:44
RawSewagewhy would I use a console based text-editor when I can use  a GUI one that lets my click the mouse anywhere on the page09:44
TheFuzzballnano is easy, and there's nothing wrong with that :p09:44
DanaGWell, if X has died, you have to fix it.09:45
JucatoRawSewage: in the event that you have no X :-D09:45
RawSewageoh09:45
TheFuzzballyea, while were on the subject of X, how do you fix the problem of it not starting when you boot?09:45
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). The fixed package should now be available on all servers/mirrors09:45
RawSewagethat should be fixed09:45
JucatoIf you can't start X server after doing a very recent update of xserver-xorg-core, you need to downgrade that package to the last working version. Once you've reached the Kubuntu logo with a static progress bar on a black background, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login in. Then use this command to downgrade: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10"09:45
Jucatoit should have been fixed by now09:46
Jucatohmm... let me update that info...09:46
TheFuzzballyea, I did do an update of xserver-xorg-core09:47
JucatoTheFuzzball: when?09:47
TheFuzzballwhen I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4 about 2 days ago09:47
juhakkiis there in kubuntu some kind of hardware profile..and i had tried to find it in system settings, but didn't success to find it..09:47
TheFuzzballthere are 7 updates available, maybe that will fox it09:47
TheFuzzballfix*09:47
JucatoTheFuzzball: it should be fixed now.09:47
TheFuzzballam updating now09:48
Jucatojuhakki: try KInfoCenter (K Menu > System)09:48
JucatoFor those upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number). The fixed package should now be available on all servers/mirrors09:48
juhakkithe point is that there is a memory card reader which is not connected now, that i could check what reader that is, and then would check if there's any drivers fot r it09:48
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TheFuzzballohh, has Amarok 1.4.2 come in fox kubuntu yet?09:48
JucatoTheFuzzball: it won't, unfortunately09:48
TheFuzzballwhy??09:49
Jucatodunno?09:50
Jucatono one has time to package it for Dapper? I'm not sure09:50
TheFuzzballthat is bloody annoying, I was waiting for that09:50
TheFuzzballalthough it does need a newer version of libtunepimp09:51
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Jucatowell, it's not always easy to provide bleeding edge packages. they have to make sure it doesn't hose down the system09:51
TheFuzzballI suppose09:51
TheFuzzballI'll just build it for source09:52
Jucatoyep09:52
TheFuzzballalthough last time I had a problem with that09:52
TheFuzzballthere was a problem with libtunepimp09:53
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JucatoRawSewage: it worked except for QtCurve and the icons, which I don't have installed09:55
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JucatoRawSewage: so it sort of confirms my observation09:56
RawSewageJucato, I dont have  those either.  I didnt know there was more to it09:56
RawSewageoh, yeah,  I remember09:56
RawSewageon his website he mentions that09:56
RawSewageI didnt do any of that09:56
Jucatoerr.. I think I mentioned that earlier...09:56
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root_hi all.. i need help. my pc will only start up X in recovery mode10:07
root_i tryed upgrading | degrading the xserver-xorg-core but it didnt help10:07
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alex_could anyone give me a hand with resizing an ext3 partition?10:09
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root_Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled ??10:10
root_how does that add look like?10:10
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fyyrest0rmcan someone explain to me what i need to do to format a secondary hdd? Its mounted, i ran qtparted but it's not seeing it.10:11
root_deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted ?10:11
ironfroggyis there any authoring software in the repo?10:11
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fritschfyyrest0rm: please umount it10:15
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fritschfyyrest0rm: then format it (ext3 example) mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdX , where the X is your umount partition you want to format10:15
fritschfyyrest0rm: after that you can try mounting: sudo mount /dev/hdX /media/hdX (if the direcotry exists)10:16
root_help please10:16
fritschroot_: what is the problem?10:16
fritschroot_: could not see it10:17
root_X crashes ... i can only log into X when im in recoverymode.. else it just freezes10:17
fritschroot_: ah okay, saw it10:17
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fritschroot_: make sure the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list is uncommented:10:17
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fritschroot_: deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted10:17
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fritschroot_: after that: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:18
fritschroot_: done10:18
root_it is.. and i have done thouse 2 commands..10:18
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fritschroot_: what says: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core10:18
root_i can do them again,, if there has been any updates the last 8 housers.10:18
fritschroot_: please give me the output from the above command10:19
root_i have degraded the xserver to  1.0.2-0ubuntu1010:19
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root_cos someone told me it would fix things,10:19
PChi ya all10:19
root_but it didnt fix anything10:20
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waylandbillI feel like I'm the only one who didn't get caught by that xserver "upgrade" .. seems like everyone's having that problem10:20
root_dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-core10:20
root_ii  xserver-xorg-core                      1.0.2-0ubuntu10                         X.Org X server -- core server10:20
PCdu u know why amorak wont play on a default 6.06 instalation?10:20
fritschroot_: this version should work fine10:20
fritschroot_: dog: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart10:21
fritschroot_: no X again?10:21
JucatoPC, you need libxine-extracodecs10:21
Jucato!mp310:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:21
Jucatoand to install that, you need to enable multiverse10:21
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:21
PCthere comes sound thru notifications, thou?10:21
fritschroot_: working?10:21
root_fritsch,  i have none loginmanager.10:21
root_i use startx10:22
fritschroot_: okay try this, please10:22
fritschroot_: not working, i think?10:22
JucatoPC: install libxine-extracodecs. but you have to enable "multiverse"10:22
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:22
root_fritsch, no i need to reboot,,  but i havent changed any thing now,, so i guess it wount work cos it didnt 15 min ago10:22
fritschroot_: could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:22
fyyrest0rm<-- blondenoob moment..guess qtparted and cfdisk like to be run as superuser lol10:22
waylandbillPC, you're trying to play an mp3 or something?10:22
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fritschroot_: okay try this, try to fetch xserver-xorg updates version 10.410:23
fritschroot_: and report you log file, if possible10:23
root_fritsch, your not getting it.. my pc freezes when i try to start it up normaly,, i mean it freezes when i run startx or kdm or what ever that uses X10:23
fritschroot_: okay! this is a very other problem10:24
fritschroot_: nothing to do with the xserver-xorg-core10:24
fritschroot_: did you install new display drivers or change something in your config?10:24
PCwayla yes thats problem10:24
root_fritsch, no.10:24
fritschroot_: "it just stopped working (TM)"10:24
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fritschroot_: that`s odd10:25
root_fritsch, it set to use nv driver in xorg10:25
fritschroot_: which display driver do you use?10:25
fritschroot_: okay, you used nvidie before?10:25
root_and it works now in recovery mode10:25
root_fritsch, yes10:25
fritschroot_: try "vesa" instead10:25
fyyrest0rmto be able to use the drive from both windows and linux I want to format fat32, yeah?10:25
fritschroot_: it works, cool ... mmh10:25
waylandbillPC, ok. yes. then you need to look at the restricted formats link that came up.10:25
root_fritsch, i have used nvidia before10:25
JucatoPC: have you tried the links that I've mentioned, twice?10:25
fritschroot_: okay, so it locks up with nvidia only?10:26
waylandbillPC, as well as the multiverse repository link too.10:26
root_fritsch, no10:26
root_fritsch, it looks up nomattre what driver i use10:26
fritschroot_: from on day to the other ...10:26
waylandbillPC, you can use "EasyUbuntu" script, but some people find that it doesn't work for them.10:26
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:26
fritschroot_: you tried the vesa driver?10:26
root_fritsch, it happend yesterday after a upgrade10:26
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root_fritsch, i cant live with the vesa driver when i have a nvidia card :P10:27
fritschroot_: but vesa works?10:27
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waylandbillroot_, he means to use the vesa to try it out, not use it permanently. :-D10:27
fritschwaylandbill: thx10:27
fritsch!pastebin10:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:28
root_fritsch, ok i'll try vesa.10:28
root_fritsch, i'll be back10:28
fritschroot_: Terminator told so, too10:28
mthow to uninstall the mysql 5.0 i want install the mysql 3.23.xx for some reason.10:29
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mt....10:31
PCjucato it takes slow. bussy. work with vira on nokia 9300.need 2 type everyting cant copy.10:31
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siko.10:31
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octanfritsch, ;D it started X with vesa now10:32
fritschoctan: cool10:32
fritschoctan: now lets debug10:32
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octanfritsch, so it looks like my nvidia drivers are scrwed10:33
octan?10:33
fritschoctan: change to nivida again and try booting10:33
fritschoctan: could be, does not have to be ;-) just try again to be sure10:33
JucatoPC: first, read this page:10:33
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:33
octanjust restart X?10:33
fritschoctan: you use the ubuntu nvidia driver? or build from theri script?10:33
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octanfritsch, ubunu ones10:33
octan*ubuntu10:33
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fritschoctan: okay, have a try, if it "still" locks10:34
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octanrestarting X10:34
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davequestion about grub, menu.lst and kopt. anyone able to help?10:36
fritschdave: yes10:36
fritschdave you add additional options behind the #kopt line ...10:36
fritschdave: after that just do: sudo update-grub10:36
fritschdave: so that they get written for every entry10:36
fritschdave: don` t uncommend the "#" before kopt, this is important10:37
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fritschdave: min looks like this: # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro resume2=swap:/dev/hda510:38
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fritschoctan: working?10:38
octanhrr. my kernels are upgraded too :P i booted into the wrong kernel :P10:38
fritschno new kernel for me?10:38
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octanand now it complains about kernel modules for nvidia10:38
octanapt-get install nvidia?10:39
octanfritsch i was using the kernel 2.6.22-386. now it says 2.6.26-38610:40
fritschoctan: ohh, the other was very, very old10:41
fyyrest0rmwhats the correct line for a newly formatted ext3 drive in fstab?10:41
fyyrest0rmthis is what it currently has: /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       110:41
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octanfritsch, so how do i get the nvidia kernel modules for this kernel version?10:41
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fritschoctan: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`10:42
davekopt=root=/dev/hda6 2.610:43
octanops.. i tould you the wrong kernel versions :P forgot to put 15 in the middle10:43
volodyahello! I can't seem to connect to WPA networks unless I manually run wpa_supplicant.  Can somebody tell how wpa_supplicant is supposed to be run automatically?10:43
davefritsch: want to have irqpoll set with this so i don't have to put it in each kernal upgrade/update this is my line i have outside of the magic bit and this is the kernal i'm using10:43
fritschdave: dave, yes just do  # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro irqpoll10:44
fritschdave: after this: sudo update-grub10:44
volodyaI see /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpa_supplicant, but that does not seem to work (no wpa_supplicant in "ps" output)10:44
fritschdave: dont`t change the # before the entry10:44
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fritschvolodya: it just gets started, when there is a wpa connection to use ...10:44
fritschvolodya: for using wpa connections, i cann suggest you to use: network-manager with knetworkmanager10:45
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fritschvolodya: a rocking combination, if your card is supported well10:45
fritschoctan: working?10:45
octanfritsch, thank you man.. ;D it works now10:45
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fritschoctan: no problem, on beer :-)10:46
octan:)10:46
davefitsch: okay i had the kopt outside of the magic bit 'cause of my experience with w2k - every kernal update i'd have to re-enter the lines in menu.lst, thought this'd be simplar thing so had line above the start of magic lines like i do with w2k entry10:46
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fritschdave: working now#?10:46
volodyafritsch: installking knetworkmanager now, let's see how it goes.10:47
fritschvolodya: to get it work, you have to comment out! your wireless interface in /etc/network/interfaces10:47
fritschvolodya: after this: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart && sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart10:48
fritschvolodya: just comment out every line from your wlan device10:48
fritschvolodya: mine looks like this:10:48
fritschauto lo10:48
fritschiface lo inet loopback10:48
fritschvolodya: the rest ist done by network-manager10:48
davenot tried it yet...10:49
fritschdave: you already run sudo update-grub?10:49
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davefritsch: just added the irqpoll to end of #kopt line and now just done the sudo update-grub, came back that it's found all kernal i have AND no errors reported, THANK DUDE :)10:51
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fritschdave: no probe, one beer :-)10:52
waylandbillfritsch: you're gonna have all the beer in the world at this rate. ;-)10:52
fritschwaylandbill: hehe, you got it10:53
davetwo burbons ... as the song goes :)10:53
waylandbillfritsch: don't be stingy now.10:53
fritschdave: in germany we have a song: "There is no beear on hawai ..."10:53
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davefirtsch: two burbons .... as the song goes :)10:53
fritschdave: hehe, oki i take a burbon, too ... but don` t know the song10:53
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fyyrest0rmcan someone please tell me whats wrong with this line? I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ..... /dev/hdb1 /home/storm/hdb1   ext3defaults,umask=007,noatime 0 010:54
waylandbillfritsch: by not being stingy, you'd share. :-)10:55
fritschwaylandbill: i` ll do10:55
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fritschwaylandbill: kubuntu party and <joke> "GPLed drinking" </joke>10:55
fritschwaylandbill: because it is free10:55
waylandbillLOL10:56
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waylandbilla new twist to "free beer"... :-)10:56
davefitsch man it's an oldie sung by a yank and in the song he meantions the two burbons and one beer or one beer and two burbons, you'd probably know it if you heard it10:57
volodyafritsch: knetworkmanager does not seem to work. It stops in "Activation stage: Configuring device" stage when I try to connect10:58
volodyaAny logs I can look at?10:58
waylandbilldave, actually it's one bourbon, one shot and one beer.10:58
fritschvolodya: /var/log/syslog10:58
fritschvolodya: is it a WPA connection?10:58
fritschvolodya: what wireless hardware do you have?10:58
volodyayes, it's WPA10:58
waylandbillone scotch I meant.10:58
davewaylandbill: YOU GOT IT!!!! shit i knew i had something missing :)10:58
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waylandbilland it's george thoroughgood10:59
fritschvolodya: mmmh, the wpa_supplicant in dapper is more or less (not good), as it is network-manager10:59
waylandbillhaven't heard that song in ages. :-D10:59
fritschvolodya: i backported edgy wpa_supplicant and network-manager10:59
davewaylandbill: how good are you dude, and me and my wife have it on tape too dam! just found it.10:59
fujikox vedere i comandi??11:00
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volodyafritsch: the log say, anoung other: "association took too long (>60s), failing activation11:00
fritschvolodya: oh yes :-) i know this problem11:00
volodyafritsch: do you recommend getting newer versions?11:00
fritschvolodya: what ist your hardware/driver11:00
fujikoqualcuno mi da una mano x favore?11:00
waylandbilldave, tape?!? I've not seen one of those in ages either. Had tons of em when I was younger too.11:01
fritschvolodya: your wirelss card i want to know11:01
waylandbillheck. I even remember using a tape to store data on a Vic-20... good lord, I'm getting old. LOL!11:01
fujikohelp me pleasee11:01
volodyafritsch: this is "Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN mini-card" in Dell D620 wth broadcom chip that's known to Linux only by PCI id, which is:11:01
fritschyou use it with ndiswrapper?11:02
volodya:431111:02
volodyayes, I used ndiswrapper since bcm43xx does not work at all11:02
fritschvolodya: okay, so we can try something...11:02
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volodyafritsch: note that if I run wpa_supplicant by hand and use "wlanassistant", it can connect11:03
kaningHi i just installed kubuntu on my dell inspiron 640m but the display is poor fonts are really blurry, any suggestions11:03
davewaylandbill: well i'm about 10 years behind with getting onto MP3 hand wagon :) and just (over last 2 years getting mp3 versions of songs i have on tape11:04
fritschvolodya: yes, this is a very annyoing problem in network-manager11:04
fritschvolodya: had this issue the last few days, too11:04
fritschvolodya: http://fritschserver.homelinux.org/~fritsch/wpa/11:05
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fritschvolodya: try these two packages for better luck, if not, i`ll set online the egy network-manager for dapper ported11:05
waylandbilldave, I'm a little behind on the latest stuff too, but did get an iPod last night, so I'm on my way now.. I guess.11:05
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fritschvolodya: downloaded and installed?11:06
volodyafritsch: in progress11:07
fritschvolodya: okay, hopefully they do not have other depends ... as dhcpd or sth. else, but let` s try ..11:07
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kaninghello11:08
kaningjust installed kubuntu and the display is blurry11:08
kaningany help?11:08
Jucato!info lyx > Jucato11:08
ubotulyx: High Level Word Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.7-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 48 kB11:08
Jucatoerr... sorry about that11:09
volodyafritsch: wpagui depends on newer Qt, is that package really needed?11:09
fritschvolodya: no not needed11:09
volodyawpasupplicant installed without problems11:09
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fritschvolodya: which package does it want exactly? the wpagui?11:09
fritschvolodya: so just try again in network-manager11:09
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volodyawpagui depends on libqt4-core (>= 4.1.2); however:11:10
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volodya  Package libqt4-core is not installed.11:10
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fritschvolodya: okay, ths is included in kde3.5.4 ... you don`t have these installed11:10
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fritschvolodya: sudo apt-get install libqt4-core fixes it ...11:11
davewaylandbill: tapes and LP's those where the days, remeber taping songs off of LP's to have in the car11:11
fritschdave: this was very nice11:11
fritschdave: in this time you "estimated" every single song ...11:11
fritschdave: today you click on amarok last.fm mixerplugin and just listen ...11:12
waylandbilldave, I remember someone making a winamp filter to put the "scratches" in your mp3, to make it sound more "right".11:13
JucatoO_O11:13
fritsch:-)11:13
fritschalternatively you can "work" your surround system with a hammer ..11:13
waylandbillhehe11:13
davefritsch: i'm an old grey haired old fart :) and remeber more of what i souldn't and less of what i should11:13
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fritschdave: grey haired, how old are you?11:14
davewaylandbill: think i remember some telling me about it too.11:14
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volodyafritsch: I get the same problem after updating package11:14
fritschdave: what is a fart? does not sound nice, though11:14
davefritch 43 but wife & kids makes ya grey real fast :)11:14
fritschvolodya: what error?11:14
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fritschdave: hehe, nearly as old as me ...11:15
volodyafritsch: still that one about "association took too long"11:15
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fritschvolodya: okay, so we have to "try" new network-manager version11:15
Jucatohehehe! the bots went on a break11:16
fritschvolodya: wait, i` ll search11:16
Jucatois there a way to make OO.o Writer open multiple documents in the same window rather than opening a new one for each?11:16
davefritsch New Zealand/Australian slang for some who you consider is old and slow or is young and slow as in com on you old fart and person is 18 yrs11:17
waylandbillfritsch: a fart is flatulence, but it's not the same thing when you combine it with "old" .. it's just slang then.11:17
fritschah! okay got it11:18
davewaylandbill where are you in the world ?11:18
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waylandbilldave, New York11:18
davewaylandbill: Oh thought you might have been down my way for some reason.11:19
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fritschvolodya: stil there?11:19
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octanhow does msn works? is it posseble to set up and msn server on linux? using etc postfix?11:20
waylandbilldave, nope. small, small town where the only way to put it on the map is to smack a fly on it at that spot.11:20
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fritschvolodya: reload the url11:21
fritschvolodya: untar the files and install everything, but not the dhcp server inside there11:22
davewaylandbill: well at least you get your country on the maps, ours is left off altogether sometimes, if you can find Australia look right and you'll see us :)11:22
Asgardlol11:23
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Jucatobut new zealand is soooo beautiful... geographically speaking11:25
davewaylandbill: i live in chch, lovely garden city in south island, home of the US Antartic support programme for Mcmurdo station  and scott base (NZ's base)11:25
fritschLord of the rings, was very impressive11:25
Asgardi want to move there11:25
davejucato: yup it is and we have been hit hard with snow so from where i live in chch there are @ 4 or 5 ski fields with in 4 hrs drive11:25
Jucatoit's one of my sister's fantasies, to be able to tour New Zealand, after seeing "The Making of the Lord of the Rings" on the DVD's11:26
davefritsch: yup11:26
waylandbillyeah... NZ looks nice in photos.11:26
volodyafritsch: so I should install everything including dhcp client, but excluding dhcp server, right?11:26
fritschvolodya: yes11:26
fritschvolodya: should work, just tried it on a dapper system ...11:27
daveAsgard: well why not do a working hoilday see some of the place suss the locals out then amke up your mind11:27
fritschvolodya: if there are errors: sudo apt-get -f install11:27
fritschvolodya: after that: sudo dpkg -i * again11:27
AsgardYeah i think i will thx11:28
redondo81Anyone know where I can find this dir (/.kde/share/apps/konsole)?Thanks11:28
volodyafritsch: should I have install dchp-relay? It ask some questions I don't understand ;-)11:28
fritschvolodya: no, not needed11:28
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waylandbillredondo81: in your home folder11:28
redondo81no,there isn't!11:29
redondo81I have to copy a schema file..11:29
satemplerwhat do I need to get my laptop keys to work (eg volume and mute etc)11:29
Jucatoredondo81: actually it's ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole11:29
Jucatoyou forgot the "~"11:29
redondo81I try, wait11:29
satemplerany one11:30
waylandbillredondo81: the . in the .kde makes it not appear in your browser.11:30
redondo81ok I found it, thanks:)11:30
satempleri know the work in linux because they work in gnome11:30
Jucato"~" is a shortcut/alias for "/home/<current_user>/"11:30
daveredondo81: thought it'd be cp .kde/....../11:30
Jucatodave and waylandbill, he just forgot the ~11:30
waylandbillyeah. I see that11:30
Jucato^_11:30
Jucatoerrr.... ^_^11:31
waylandbillThis page shows photos taken just down the road from me: http://members.aol.com/pbonadonna/lake.html11:31
fritschvolodya: working?11:31
waylandbillDon't know the kids in the one photo though.. they aint mine. :-D11:31
davejucato: something i've learnt to nite, didn't know about that.11:32
Jucatodave: that's kool :-D11:32
volodyafritsch: nope :-(11:34
fritschvolodya: error messages?11:34
fritschvolodya: every package installed?11:34
volodyafritsch: just the same message in log11:35
fritschvolodya: do you "insert the password" in plaintext? or in hex11:35
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redondo81I copied the schema file in the dir and now it says me to open the konsole, but I don't know how?!?11:35
volodyafritsch: plaintext11:35
fritschvolodya: okay, lets try it in "hex"11:35
fritschvolodya: wait11:35
Jucatoredondo81: K Menu > System > Konsole11:35
redondo81but it runs the comand promt11:36
volodyafritsch: how do I get hex password?11:36
Jucatoredondo81: that's Konsole11:36
fritschvolodya: ill try11:36
fritschvolodya: just wait a short moment11:36
redondo81the instructions says :11:36
redondo813. Open the konsole and select Settings -> Schema -> Embassy11:36
redondo814. Select Settings -> Save as Default11:36
fritschvolodya: but the packages are now all installed?11:36
davewaylandbill: just been to website, lovely country, put single story houses and it could be in central otago ( lakes district)11:36
fritschvolodya: then please install knetworkmanager from my site ... too the new on from edgy11:37
Jucatoredondo81: Konsole is a terminal/command line program11:37
fritschvolodya: after that, please restart knetworkmanager (close, open again)11:37
volodyafritsch: yes, all, except for -server and -relay11:37
redondo81ok ok, I understood11:37
Jucatoredondo81: there's a menu at that top of the window. Settings is there11:37
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redondo81Sorry, but I'm a newbie11:37
redondo81;)11:37
fritschvolodya: okay, please get the knetworkmanager ...11:37
Jucatoredondo81: it's ok11:37
redondo81:)11:37
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volodyafritsch: getting...11:38
waylandbillredondo81: everyone was a noob at some point11:38
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Jucatoand still a noob in some aspects11:39
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satemplerwhat do I need to get my laptop keys to work (eg volume and mute etc)11:39
volodyafritsch: knetworkmanager depends on kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1); however:11:39
fritschvolodya: you haven`t kde-3.5.4 installed?11:40
volodya Version of kdelibs4c2a on system is 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu1811:40
fritschvolodya: okay, so don`t install it, just do sudo apt-get -f install and install the default one again11:40
fritschvolodya: okay, you have the "dapper default"11:40
volodyafritsch: do should I go "apt-get -f install" and then install that .deb again?11:41
fritschvolodya: no, apt-get -f install11:41
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fritschvolodya: and after that install the default dapper knetworkmanager11:41
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fritschvolodya: done?11:43
fritschvolodya: please just reboot your laptop ... just to be sure11:43
volodyafritsch: packages are being downloaded.11:44
waylandbillsatempler: depends on the model. not all are supported11:44
fritschvolodya: okay11:44
volodyafritsch: just to make sure, how do I get what's "default dapper knetworkmanager"11:44
fritschvolodya: packages?11:44
satemplerwaylandbill: works by default in Ubuntu11:44
fritschvolodya: just do sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager11:44
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satemplerthis is why I know it works11:45
satemplerbut when I press the key the hex code doesn't apper11:45
fritschvolodya: but keep wpa_supplicant and network-manager instlled (the ones you downloaded from me)11:45
fritschvolodya: all done?11:46
satemplerdo i need to log out and log back in for keyboard layout to work ?11:46
nagyvHello! I had once this same problem, but now I do not want to reboot. I have the System menu on the panel, and it is empty. How can I populate it? Actually at every startup I get a notice that there was a problem with the panel. I thought that it is because of Skype (it seemd to start wrongly), but now I am not sure of this any more.11:46
fritschopen a terminal11:46
fritschvolodya: and type wpa_passphrase "your wlan id" "plaintextpassword"11:46
fritschvolodya: this will out put the hex values, perhaps you have better luck with them11:46
davesatempler: have you tried looking to see if you and bind keys to action via kinfo centre?11:47
volodyafritsch: ok, given me two mins for reboot11:47
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fritschvolodya: yes11:47
satemplerdave: how do i do that11:47
nagyvsatempler: you have to run xev, and then find the codes and set their functinality with xmodmap. wait a but, I will give you a link11:47
satemplerok11:47
Jucatohas anyone noticed that amarok and k3b's splash screens no longer appear? even if I enable it in amarok, it still won't show11:48
satemplerintresting now my mute key works11:48
fritschvolodya: i had the same problem, but the new packages and a new "windows driver from cisco" fixed it for me11:48
fritschvolodya: you are using the newest inf for your wireless in ndiswrapper11:49
davesatempler: good to see someone else helped, i was guessing of a way to help :)11:49
volodyafritsch: the latest one I can get from Dell site11:49
fritschvolodya: okay get it and install it, but first if it is not working now11:50
fritschvolodya: you got the one with wpa_passphrase?11:50
fritschvolodya: to convert it into hex?11:50
HobbseeJucato: i cant reproduce that with 1.4.2 of amarok.  i think that got fixed11:50
satemplernagyv: what about kmilo11:50
JucatoHobbsee: oh.. guess I have to wait then :-D11:50
fritschHobbsee: don`t get a splash screen either11:51
HobbseeJucato: there are dapper debs11:51
Hobbseefritsch: did you enable it?  try removing amarokrc11:51
jujimufuin apt's cache, there is a quake II. Is this the real game, or just a demo?11:51
fritschHobbsee: wargh 200 gb of music to reload in ...11:51
JucatoI'd rather wait though ehehe11:51
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daveanother question for you all good folk, using kaffeine and want to see a .mov file, get errors referring to decodes, cannot find anything using gstreamer11:51
HobbseeJucato: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/11:51
fritschHobbsee: sorry, wrong alarm ... it is working11:51
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Hobbseefritsch: :)11:52
volodyafritsch: heh, now knetworkmanager does not even show any wireless networks to connect too. Maybe commenting out wlan0 should be reverted?11:52
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nagyvsatempler: this is a work in progress, look for the special keys part: http://www.rajk.uni-corvinus.hu/~nagyv/tmp/thePerfectDesktop-howtoforge.html11:52
fritschvolodya: just wait a little bit11:52
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fritschvolodya: your ndiswrapper modul is loaded?11:53
fritschvolodya: what gives: iwlist wlan0 scan?11:53
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JucatoHobbsee: thanks. I'll look into it. I read that blog entry this morning (here) and thought it only had .deb for Edgy11:53
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volodyafritsch: ndiswrapper module is gone somehow, although it was auto-loaded this morning, let me modprobe it11:54
fritschvolodya: oki11:54
HobbseeJucato: edgy got done first11:54
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Jucatoheheh naturally11:54
Jucatooooh another GPG key to add! ^_^11:54
gerardociao a tutti11:55
JucatoRiddel's was getting lonely by itself :-D11:55
fritschDoes for anyone "weekalarm" the amarok script work?11:55
gerardobye11:55
JucatoHobbsee: I'm presuming it's safe to try and upgrade?11:55
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fritschI think there is perhaps a python version conflict, i don`t get alarmed for getting up11:55
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fritschJucato: imbrandon said yesterday: solid release noe show stoppers11:55
HobbseeJucato: i've not tested it myself, it seems so though11:55
fritschJucato: i use them ssince 3 hours, no crash, just playing11:56
fritschJucato: playlist updating etc. works correctly, too11:56
fritschvolodya: modprobed?11:56
Jucatokool11:56
Jucatotrying it out now11:56
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davehow do you watch a mov file with kaffeine, getting errors referring to decodes, search adept and found nothing, using gstrreamer too11:56
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daveopeNZ: gidday fellow kiwi :)11:57
Jucatodave: have you installed the w32codecs?11:57
davejucato: well i did look for those via adept, thought they might've been in a deb file but haven't seen them11:58
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Jucato!w32codecs11:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:58
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Jucatodave: it's not in the repositories, for legal reasons11:58
Jucatodave: see the RestrictedFormats link and scroll down to the part that mentions w32codecs11:59
daveubotu and jucato thanks for the pointers, I just didn't know where to find 'em12:00
ubotuand: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB12:00
fritschvolodya: mmh?12:00
Jucatolol ubotu....12:00
Jucatodave: ubotu's a bot, btw...12:00
OpeNZgday dave :)12:00
fritsch:-)12:01
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Jucatolol12:01
Jucato  ubotu doesn't, though12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn't, though - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
unix_infidel"*g*"  ??12:01
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davejucato: well i didn't know shows you how mucxh time i don't come here, oppps wife coming to bed time for the light to go off.....12:02
Jucatolol12:02
Jucatobye dave ehehe12:02
fritschvolodya: have to go now ... if this does not work, try the latest "inf" for the ndiswrapper12:02
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fritschvolodya: and if nothing works, just uninstall the network-manager stuff12:02
waylandbilllater dave12:03
volodyafritsch: still doesn't work :-( Thanks for help, I'll try digging in that direction12:03
Asgardubotu xorg12:03
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:03
fritschvolodya: you got your card up?12:03
fritschvolodya: finding the wireless, but cannot come it with WPA Personal setting...12:04
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volodyafritsch: yes, the card is up, but it still can't connect12:04
Asgardi like ubotu12:04
fritschvolodya: here it fixed the new "info" from cisco ... perhaps could be good luck for you12:04
fritschvolodya: bye! have to go12:04
volodyafritsch: thanks, and bye!12:04
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Asgardubotu bzimage12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bzimage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
Jucato??12:05
jujimufuwth12:05
jujimufu!bzimage12:05
fritschAsgard: try kernel12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bzimage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
jujimufu!kernel12:05
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:05
davenite nite folks, thanks for your help.12:06
Jucatobye dave!12:06
Asgardi no wot it is i just wanted to see if it new i like the bot i want one12:06
fritschdave: bye ... far* ... tz ;-)12:06
Jucatolol12:07
waylandbilllol.. "if you're convinced you do"12:07
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Jucatowb Hobbsee_12:08
buz!amarok12:09
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php12:09
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Hobbsee!no amarok is <reply>  amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/12:10
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee12:10
Hobbsee!amarok12:10
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/12:10
Hobbseethere we go12:10
Jucatoehehe12:10
AsgardWOW12:10
JucatoHobbsee: won't it be put in the Kubuntu website?12:10
waylandbill:)12:10
fritschHobbsee: could you do the same with kopete packages?12:11
HobbseeJucato: eventually12:11
fritsch!kopete12:11
ubotukopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/12:11
Jucatooh kool! splash skreen12:11
Hobbseefritsch: what, build them for dapper?12:11
fritschHobbsee: they are very outdated12:11
fritschHobbsee: there are 0.12.1 packages in KDE-354 from riddle12:11
Hobbseefritsch: true that.  i'm not sure if we have kopete 0.12.2 packages for dapper, do we?12:11
unix_infidelhey Hobbsee :)12:11
fritschHobbsee: i have .. but not officially build12:11
Hobbseefritsch: ah yes, but not 0.12.212:12
buzi take it there are no "official" amarok 1.4.2 debs for dapper yet12:12
Hobbseeright, yeah, well you'd need kde 3.5.4 for them, so...12:12
Hobbseebuz: there are12:12
Hobbsee!amarok12:12
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/12:12
Hobbseethey just need to be copied to kubuntu.org12:12
Jucatobuz: that's as "official" as it will get12:12
buzdamn me12:12
buzyou updated it just after i installed it ;)12:13
HobbseeJucato: i expect they will get copied12:13
buzuhm queried for it12:13
Jucatohm.. It's a first release that won't be coming from Riddel... it's a first!12:13
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HobbseeJucato: actually, it's not12:13
fritschHobbsee: I just built your edgy kopete for dapper, you remember?12:13
HobbseeJucato: imbrandon did 1.4.1 packages too, iirc12:13
Hobbseefritsch: true that12:13
fritschHobbsee: not just, some time ago12:13
Jucatooooh12:13
Hobbseeyes12:13
Hobbseenow i remember12:13
fritschHobbsee: apachelogger has made them, but where are theses...?12:14
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fritschHobbsee: hase made some, but did never see them official12:14
JucatoHobbsee: I guess when it was signed by Riddel by the time it was posted in Kubuntu.org?12:14
Jucato(heheh now you're being plagued by questions!)12:14
buzare these amarok debs safe?12:14
Hobbseebuz: yes12:14
Jucatodefinitely safe12:15
HobbseeJucato: true that, i think...12:15
Hobbseebuz: they were made by kubuntu developers12:15
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buzi take your word for it ;)12:15
Hobbseefritsch: i dont exactly trust apachelogger's stuff.12:15
Jucatohmm... I wonder... I'm presuming FLAC still won't play?12:15
fritschHobbsee: oki12:15
Jucato @_@12:15
HobbseeJucato: no idea12:16
buzyeah libvisual support12:16
Jucatoehehe12:16
HobbseeJucato: if you find a way to make it work, do tell12:16
JucatoHobbsee: I think the consesus was just to take the source for xine 1.1.2 from edgy and compile it12:16
Hobbseei hear backports are being fixed now, actually12:16
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buzhas anyone gotten strigi to compile on dapper?12:17
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fritschJucato: tried flac just now ... did not work12:21
fritschJucato: no audio channel it tells me12:21
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buzbtw speaking of amarok, how do i get lastfm buttons in the gui? i see them when i click on the tray icon12:22
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buzright clicking on the stream works as well12:23
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redondo81anyone knows a program as Roboform(to fill web-form and remember password) for linux?12:24
fritschJucato: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210683&page=212:25
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redondo81???12:25
redondo81no one!?!?12:26
Jucatoredondo81: KWalletManager12:26
Jucatoit's installed by default12:26
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redondo81thanks , I search it now12:26
fritschJucato: it works with this patch ...12:26
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fritschHobbsee: ping12:30
Hobbseefritsch: pong12:30
fritschHobbsee: this patch fixes flac12:30
fritschHobbsee: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=16315&action=view12:30
redondo81I am not able to find KWalletManager...where I can find it??!!12:30
fritschHobbsee: just installed packages, where this is incorparated, and working12:30
fritschHobbsee: shall i point imbrandon to them, or are the also relevant for edgy?12:31
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redondo81But it remeber only the password or it fill also other form like Name etc..12:31
knobhello all12:31
redondo81?12:31
knobi'm having this problem when ever i go to watch an online video from the side it cant find the plugin, when i install the plugin it cant find one, does anyone have any idea how to make these online movies work.. oh yeh i;m using firefox12:32
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fritschknob: for firefox you havfe to install mozilla-mplayer12:32
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fritschknob: for konqueror this works out of the box ...12:33
knobok thanks, shal, do that now12:33
knob: )12:33
Hobbseefritsch: can you add that to the FLAC bug, and change the packagename to xine-lib please?12:34
fritschHobbsee: i have a look12:34
fritschHobbsee: i do not have the permissions to change a bugreport?12:35
fritschHobbsee: i think you mean this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/5236512:35
Hobbseefritsch: you should do12:36
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Hobbseefritsch: is it working on edgy?12:37
kaningnew kubuntu insallation looks blurry on my screen any help?12:37
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Hobbseefritsch: oh yeah, i see.12:38
fritschHobbsee: did, as you suggested12:39
redondo81Can you tell me a form filler for linux?12:39
Hobbseefritsch: ah, you did it that way..12:39
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fritschHobbsee: sorry, did not to know how to do other ...12:40
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Hobbseefritsch: it's okay :)12:40
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herasHi all.12:52
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yeager_hello12:55
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acersaleshi i am typing a 'clear' command on the console and gettting the error 'terminal is not a console'12:57
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jujimufuacersales: lol :D12:58
jujimufuacersales: try cls12:58
acersalescls :D is for windows rite ?12:58
jujimufuacersales: lol :D so what? heh :) cls is for basic as well D:12:59
jujimufu*:D12:59
acersalesbut there is no command with this name01:00
waylandbillb.a.s.i.c.? does anyone still use that?01:00
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jujimufuwaylandbill: YEAH101:04
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jujimufuwaylandbill: BASIC pwns a$$ :D01:04
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waylandbill:)01:04
acersalesany idea guyz ?01:05
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Jucato[Away] acersales: this from a default Konsole?01:06
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waylandbillis this a console window, or one of the VT's?01:06
Jucato[Away] he's gone..01:07
Jucato[Away] I'm gone too...01:07
Jucato[Away] ^_^01:07
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PensacolaI'm looking for a piece of software that can emulate a virtual cd drive01:15
AsgardGood Luck01:16
Jucato @_@01:16
Pensacolacan anyone recommend one?01:16
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Asgardi wish there was one pell01:16
JucatoI think it's possible to mount ISO's w/o any 3rd party software01:16
PensacolaI'm looking to mount ccd images :)01:16
xanic_what?01:16
Pensacolahttp://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ looks promising01:16
Jucatooh, now that's harder...01:16
xanic_need help01:17
waylandbillmount the iso as a loop device01:17
waylandbilloh... ccd. :-D01:17
Jucatojust in case you're interested with mounting ISO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso01:17
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Pensacolathx, that can always come in handy01:17
fyyrest0rmanyone feeling generous? I need a little help with timezones. I've tried and tried and no matter what zone I try I can't get the time right lol01:18
Jucatofyyrest0rm: what do you mean? you're supposed to use your own timezone...01:18
fyyrest0rmjucato: yes i understand that..I'm in Central time zone..but when I use America/US  Central  the time is still off01:19
fyyrest0rmby an hour01:19
Jucatofyyrest0rm: err.. aren't you supposed to be on DST?01:19
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fyyrest0rmjucato: umm..yeah I suppose I would be lol01:21
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fyyrest0rmjucato: this is why I should never try to do stuff on zero sleep :)01:21
Jucatofyyrest0rm: ehehe!01:21
JucatoI just don't know how to set it to adjust according to DST01:21
JucatoI never had the need to... ^_^01:22
waylandbillPensacola: this may be of use: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso01:23
PensacolaI was just looking at that one01:23
Pensacolatrying to install it at the moment :)01:23
waylandbill:-D01:23
Jucatowaylandbill is a mind-reader...01:24
Jucatoor... he's hacking into Pensacola's box, knowing what he's looking at...01:24
Jucato^_^01:24
Pensacola:)01:24
Pensacolacan't install that one either :s01:25
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waylandbillfyyrest0rm: you aren't picking indiana or something that ignores DST are ya? ;-D01:25
Jucatothere are states that ignore DST?01:25
waylandbillyup01:25
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Jucato[Away] wow...01:25
waylandbillarizona does too I think01:25
Jucato[Away] talk about confusion01:25
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Asgarddoes any1 know who is playing the new indiana jones?01:25
waylandbillor parts of it anyway01:25
Jucato[Away] anyway... gotta go01:25
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Asgarddoes any1 know who is playing the new indiana jones?01:27
Asgardif you dont its fine :'-(01:27
waylandbillimdb says Harrison Ford is01:28
Asgardno no they are making a new 101:28
waylandbillhe swings from vines with his walker this time I imagine. :-D01:28
Asgardlol01:28
Asgardill google it01:29
waylandbillIndiana Jones 4 (2008) Status:Pre-production Status Updated:8 March 200601:29
waylandbillthat one ?01:29
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Asgardyup01:29
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waylandbillthen it's the same one. We'll see how the "Ravages of Time" have treated HF. :-D01:30
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pielgrzymhi :)01:31
Asgardso Harrison is gona use his walking stick :-(01:31
pielgrzymanybody uses thunderbird?01:32
pielgrzym:)01:32
waylandbillpielgrzym: yup01:32
pielgrzymI need to know what command line parameter makes thunderbird open a compose e-mail window automatically adding a provided attachemnt :)01:32
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trym|workhow can I define that xscreensaver is only to run on one screen.. and the others should just be black?01:33
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Asgardtrym|work y would you wona do that01:34
trym|workbecause the gl screensavers lag like hell when it tries to do opengl on all monitors01:35
trym|workand btw.. I think it might be kscreensaver.. not xscreensaver01:35
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fyyrest0rmwaylandbill: nope, I was choosing straight CST..didn't take into accound daylight savings lol01:35
fyyrest0rmCST6CDT did the trick01:36
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waylandbillpielgrzym: couldn't you use sendmail to do that?01:37
waylandbillfyyrest0rm: there ya go!01:37
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pielgrzymwaylandbill: I have an amarok script which sends music via e-mail, but id does it with ''kmail --attachment'' command. Sendmail is a similar command?01:38
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waylandbillpielgrzym: sendmail is a CLI utility.01:41
waylandbillit (and I'm sure others) is used as a backend for sending mail from a script unattended. For like a webserver or a cron job.01:43
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_lupine!Module.symvers > _lupine01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Module.symvers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
pielgrzymwaylandbill: I'll check it out :)01:47
lupine_85anyone know how to generate the Module.symvers file in linux-headers ?01:47
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lupine_85(linux-headers-2.6.15-26)01:47
Pensacolathx for the help guys, I got ccd2iso up and running :)01:48
pielgrzymwaylandbill: I haven't got sendmail - there must be a way to trigger a default e-mail client through cl01:51
jujimufuhow can I install gnome on kubuntu?01:51
jujimufu!gnmoe01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnmoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
jujimufu!gnome01:51
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.01:51
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jujimufu!gnome-desktop01:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
jujimufumeh01:52
lupine_85!linux-headers > lupine_8501:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
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lupine_85!linux-headers-2.6.15-26 > lupine_8501:53
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gnomefreak!headers01:55
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages01:55
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HymnToLifehi guys !01:59
HymnToLifecan anyone help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24283801:59
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shenteyhello! i've got problems with kde sessions02:01
shenteyi can log into a kde session but get thrown out immediately02:01
shenteycan anybody help?02:01
HymnToLifeerror message ?02:02
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shenteyi've got a log of startkde telling me: kicker: Fatal IO error: client killed02:03
shenteyand ***kdesktop got signal 1 (Exiting)02:03
shenteysomething is tellig me that a library could not be loaded02:04
HymnToLifejust try reinstalling kde, maybe you uninstalled a lib by mistake02:04
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shenteywell, when i startx on the console, it kicks me out telling me that some reference count is wrong02:05
shenteyso i think it is caused by X02:05
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waylandbillcould be what startx is calling02:06
shenteywhat about: xset:  bad font path element (#76), possible causes are:02:07
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shenteyi was able to log in some hours ago and i didn't change my system02:08
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HymnToLifelol02:10
HymnToLifeI also have a problem that appeared out of nowhere02:10
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shenteygood hint ;-)02:14
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Jazon_officehi guys02:19
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Jazon_officewhats the dif between desktop and alternate ?  also, jsut to verify, kubuntu6.x is dapper ?02:19
lupine_85kubuntu6.06[.1]  is dapper, yes02:20
lupine_85alternate cd doesn't have  a GUI environment. So not as pretty, but less likely to die on you02:20
lupine_85good old ncurses ;)02:20
vishayyand if I dont want to install the loader I have to download the alternate, right?02:21
HymnToLifeyou'll have to install GRUB anyway02:21
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lupine_85vishayy: the alt-CD gives you the option02:22
HymnToLife(except if you already have another *nix like system of course)02:22
lupine_85so if you don't want to install the bootloader (e.g. you want to use a boot floppy, or syslinux, or something) then that's the way to go02:22
lupine_85HymnToLife: you can boot linux from the NTLDR (with some modifications to it) IIRC02:23
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lupine_85don't need another *nix, at any rate02:23
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Jazon_officewhats the best way to 'add' kubuntu to my laptop... I currently am running Kanotix on it, but would like to have both on, and able to share my data between the two02:24
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baldihello02:25
HymnToLifelupine_85, really ? I thought you could only chainload to GRUB02:25
lupine_85by default :)02:25
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lupine_85but even so, some people prefer (E)lilo... or syslinux... or any one of a number of different bootloaders02:26
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vishayytheres no lilo in kubuntu?02:26
sleeptypergrub02:26
lupine_85there's lilo and elilo, but not installed by default02:27
lupine_85ubuntu prefers grub02:27
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vishayyI want the gui and the option to put the loader in root partition, so I have to download the alternate but it doesnt have GUI.02:29
waylandbillJazon_office: do manual partitioning, put kubuntu in free space and put both os's in the bootloader02:29
HymnToLifeif you know what the bootloader is in the first place02:29
HymnToLifeI don't think you need a gui :p02:29
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HymnToLifethe GUI is hell02:29
waylandbillvishayy: it's a gui on the alt-CD... just an ncurses based one.02:29
n8k99is there a gui for yaboot?02:30
lupine_85argh, is gb.archive.ubuntu.com going really slowly for anyone else?02:30
waylandbillus.archive.ubuntu.com goes dreadfully slow once in a wihle.02:31
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HymnToLife< 100 ms ping for gb here02:31
lupine_85oh, it pings alright... just haves for ages on Ign or Get02:31
lupine_85ah, it's finished now02:32
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lupine_85and as for ubuntuforums.com... someone get that guy a new server! ;)02:32
HymnToLifeagreed02:33
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vishayyis this bootloader-alternate-cd things is also in ubuntu?02:33
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Jazon_officei have mounted my ipod as /mnt/ipod  and am able to access it now.  I want to copy my /home/user dir to it ... how can i do this from console?02:36
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HymnToLifeJazon_office, cp -R /home/user /mnt/ipod02:37
HymnToLifewill eras everything you have on it though IIRC02:37
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Jazon_officeHymnToLife  hope not :P  'cause I'm doin it....02:39
Jazon_officei tried dapper about a month ago... my laptop ran hot, so i removed it... have these issues been resolved does anyone know?02:40
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lupine_85CPU frequency scaling?02:41
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synapticshello, are there any program for kubuntu 6.06 to check the temperature of my HDD, CPU Fan..........?02:46
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Jucato[Away] synaptics: try KSensors. but you need lm-sensors and hddtemp also installed02:47
Jucato[Away] don't ask me how to use it, though. never got it to work on mine...02:47
synapticswhere can i get it Jucato[Away] 02:47
Jucato[Away] T_T02:47
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Jucato[Away] !ksensors02:47
ubotuksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB02:47
Jucato[Away] !lm-sensors02:47
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB02:47
Jucato[Away] !hddtemp02:48
ubotuhddtemp: Utility to monitor the temperature of your hard drive. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-beta14-6 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 244 kB02:48
synapticsahhhhhhhhhhhh, any others?02:48
Jucato[Away] afk again02:48
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Jazon_officeif i have kubuntu on hda1, another distro on hda2, and my /home/user dir on hda3.... can i use that home dir for both distros?  or will that cause issues?03:01
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waylandbillJazon_office: make a symbolic link on one to the other03:04
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waylandbillor easier simply put a mount point in both distro's fstab to the /dev/hda3 mounting as /home03:05
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synapticshow do i know if Java2TM Runtime Environment is installed?03:09
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synapticshow do i know if Java2TM Runtime Environment is installed? and how do i open a .jar file?03:10
waylandbillsynaptics: if you have aptitude you can do: aptitude search java | grep ^i03:11
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synapticshow do i install java?03:12
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waylandbill!java03:13
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:13
waylandbillI installed java through the easy ubuntu script myself.03:14
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sganeshHello03:18
sganeshI am a newbie to Kubuntu03:18
sganeshi have a prob in which my D-Link  card DWL-G630 does not connect to the wireless network by default03:19
sganeshcan anybody help me in this regard03:19
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Kr4t05!wifi > sganesh03:21
kevjavasganesh: Mine doesn't either.  I have a WPA-protected network, and an unencrypted one, and network manager always connects to the free one by default03:22
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sganeshkevjava: if you get ne solution do let me know03:28
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g-hennahi everyone#03:28
g-hennai want to use eclipse on kubuntu, but using on sun java, not on gcj; so what do i have to do to get rid of all the gcj-stuff that comes with it?03:28
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kevjavasganesh: As far as I know, it's a feature :) that just hasn't been implemented yet.03:29
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kevjavag-henna:  I had to apt-get remove the gcj to get it out of the way, then download and install eclipse manually.03:30
kevjavaThere's probably a better way, though.03:30
g-hennakevjava: so you mean not through apt-get, but just get the tar.gz?03:30
kevjavaDefinitely install the sun-java5-jre package before installing eclipse, though.03:30
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kevjavaYeah.  The apt repositories seem to have gcj and normal java versions of all the eclipse stuff, though.03:31
g-hennakevjava: ok. and without the gnome-libraries?03:32
debkevjava: U can choose which java to use .. Use the command to sudo update-alternatives --config java to select which java u wan to use .03:32
kevjava(e.g. there's eclipse-platform and eclipse-platform-gcj).03:32
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kevjavadeb: Thanks, that's a cool tip, I was certain there had to be an easier way to muck with those links.03:33
g-hennaThere is only 1 program which provides java. (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.03:33
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debkevjava: any time :)03:33
g-hennaand why do i need gnome libraries to get eclipse?03:34
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kevjavag-henna:  The Java/SWT libraries use GTK to display native widgets.03:34
HymnToLifehey folks03:34
g-hennaand gconf? i mean...03:34
HymnToLifestill no one to help me out with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242838 ?03:34
g-hennai don't have gnome libs on windows or mac os, then why do i need gnome-keyring to use eclipse?03:35
g-hennacan i build from source and then get around these dependencies with config options?03:36
debHymnToLife: do u get any crash message or anothing like that ?03:36
HymnToLifenothing at all03:36
HymnToLifethe panel jjjust disapears and that's it03:36
HymnToLifejust*03:36
kevjavag-henna: If you download the huge ~98MB tar file, it should work fine without all the dependencies.  You probably don't have to build from source.03:37
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debHymnToLife: I think some applet crashes and that causes the problem .03:37
HymnToLifehmmm could be03:38
g-hennaon the eclipse-website, i can also select x86/motif; would that be better? :-)03:38
HymnToLifeI remember I got a Kopete crash message not long before03:38
HymnToLifebut Kopete works fine, I'll try disabling the tray icon for it03:38
HymnToLifeok, I'll restart X and see, brb :)03:39
debHymnToLife: reinstall kicker and check ?03:39
KDEfanboy!packages03:41
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!03:41
kevjavag-henna: xmotif is a new set of dependencies, not to mention ugly :).03:41
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TheFuzzballwhat does Amarok 1.4.2 need to run?03:42
TheFuzzballsoftware wise03:42
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HymnToLifedeb, Kopete wasn't the problem03:42
HymnToLifeis there any logfile I could check03:42
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g-hennakevjava: hm, whether we find someone to write sth. like libswt-qt :-)03:43
kevjavaTheFuzzball: apt-cache show amarok => Depends: amarok-xine | amarok-engine, kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libgl1-mesa | libgl1, libice6, libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.19-1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libpq4, libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6), libsm6, libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4), libtag1c2a (>= 1.4), libtunepimp2c2a (>= 0.3.0), libx11-6, libxext6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)03:43
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debHymnToLife: May be but I don't know where . Try reinstalling kicker .03:44
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kevjavag-henna: That would certainly be nice.03:44
ashridahwhere exactly does one get kde 3.5.4 for dapper? the FAQ link goes to a general ubuntu faq that's nearly useless03:45
TheFuzzballhow come some AVI files work in kubuntu and others don't?03:45
lupine_85different codecs?03:45
HymnToLifeTheFuzzball, depends on the codec thas was used for encoding03:46
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TheFuzzballHymnToLife, well I donwloaded a file that used the div3 codec and it worked, and that was avi, but all of the other AVIs that I have don't even show what codec they use03:47
TheFuzzballHymnToLife, they don't play either :)03:47
fritsch!w32codecs > TheFuzzball03:47
TheFuzzballfritsch, I already have the w32codecs03:48
HymnToLifeTheFuzzball, do you have a Windows box at hand ?03:48
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HymnToLifeif o, use GSpot to identify the codec03:48
TheFuzzballHymnToLife, yes03:48
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TheFuzzballHymnToLife, to my shame03:49
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sberlaciao gente03:49
fritschTheFuzzball: try mplayer to play these files03:49
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TheFuzzballfritsch, I have tried mplayer, totem, xine, kaffeine, VLC03:50
TheFuzzballfritsch, and a lot more03:50
fritschTheFuzzball: mplayer show what codec they use03:50
manu__try mplayer from console03:50
fritschTheFuzzball: yes what manu__ suggests03:51
fritschTheFuzzball: you installed the w32codecs correctly? the ".deb" package?03:51
TheFuzzballfritsch, I did it with sudo apt-get install w32codecs03:51
fritschTheFuzzball: this does not work03:51
fritsch!w32codecs03:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:51
HymnToLifehmm funny03:52
fritschTheFuzzball: w32codecs is in no ubuntu source03:52
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TheFuzzballI used another resp03:52
fritschTheFuzzball: or did you add stuff to /etc/apt/sources.list03:52
lupine_85plf03:52
TheFuzzballfritsch, yea03:52
fritschTheFuzzball: please install the version, they suggest in this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:52
fritschTheFuzzball: and restry03:52
TheFuzzballfritsch, ta03:52
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TheFuzzballfritsch, I have already done that too03:54
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fritschTheFuzzball: do you have Amd64?03:54
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fritschTheFuzzball: can` t imagine why this sould not work ...03:55
TheFuzzballfritsch, i386 like most people I am afraid03:55
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fritschTheFuzzball: perhaps another one knows the solution03:55
fritschTheFuzzball: me, too :-) also afraid03:55
fritschTheFuzzball: btw. try mplayer in console and look if it finds the aporpriat codecs03:56
TheFuzzballfritsch, k03:56
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TheFuzzballfritsch,  it says Failed to open LIRC support?03:57
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fritschTheFuzzball: this is normal03:58
Jazon_officewhat does cannot enable RNG mean?03:58
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TheFuzzballfritsch, it also said You will not be able to use your remote control.03:58
TheFuzzballPlaying monsterhouse-cd1.avi.03:59
fritschTheFuzzball: this is about lirc support03:59
fritschTheFuzzball: now it is player, but you don`t have a picture?03:59
fritschTheFuzzball: only hearing sound?03:59
TheFuzzballfreeflying, neither03:59
fritschTheFuzzball: what?03:59
fritschTheFuzzball: just stopped?03:59
TheFuzzballfreeflying, neither03:59
TheFuzzballfreeflying, no, it said it was playing, but I didn't see a picture or hear any sound04:00
TheFuzzballso I stopped it after a while with ctrl c04:00
fritschTheFuzzball: did it say somtheing about the codec04:00
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fritschTheFuzzball: try mplayer -vo x11 -ao alsa "video.avi"04:00
TheFuzzballfritsch, no04:00
TheFuzzballfritsch, ok04:01
TheFuzzballfritsch, it says 91 audio & 204 video codecs04:01
TheFuzzballfritsch, it says at the top04:01
fritschTheFuzzball: what gives: dpkg -l |grep mplayer04:02
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TheFuzzballfritsch, rc  kmplayer-base                          0.9.1.99+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1              Base files for KMPlayer04:05
TheFuzzballii  mplayer                                0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8    The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux04:05
TheFuzzballii  mplayer-skins                          2-6                                      Skins for the Ubuntu mplayer Package04:05
fritschTheFuzzball:04:05
fritschTheFuzzball: don`t paste, only if its one line04:05
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fritschTheFuzzball: what gives: dpkg -l |grep w32codecs04:05
sharkkhi04:05
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TheFuzzballfritsch, rc  kmplayer-base                          0.9.1.99+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu104:06
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TheFuzzballfritsch, ii  mplayer                                0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu804:06
fritschTheFuzzball: does not matter ... mplayer is not kmplayer04:06
Jazon_officehey, how big should the partition be for linux if i am using a separate partition for my home dir ???04:06
fritschTheFuzzball: dpkg -l |grep w32codecs04:06
fritschthis one ...04:06
sharkkim installing kubuntu on a pc where there is windows, windows use to set the hardware time to the localtime, it is possible to tell at kubuntu to see the hardware time as the local time and not as the utc?04:07
TheFuzzballfritsch, ii  w32codecs                              20060611-1plf104:07
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fritschTheFuzzball: aha! this version is not my version04:07
fritschTheFuzzball: the rest is the same04:07
fritschTheFuzzball: please use the version from the restrictedFormats page and retry04:07
TheFuzzballfritsch, I did04:07
TheFuzzballhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs04:08
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TheFuzzballfritsch, which version is yours?04:08
fritschTheFuzzball: aha, so i try your version shortly ... just wait04:08
TheFuzzballfritsch, k04:09
Jazon_officeTheFuzzball: is 4 gig big enough is home dir is on another partition?04:09
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TheFuzzballJazon_office, I think you have the wrong person, and also you don't make sence04:10
Dr_Willissharkk,  yea. theres a file in /etc/ that sets the timezone. I belive theres a wiki page that details this. I always got screwed up times as well04:10
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grotheskJazon_office: Depends. But I'd prefer at least 6GB.04:11
fritschTheFuzzball: this version currently on the wiki is older at least ... but wait, me tries04:11
fritschTheFuzzball: no, this ws not the problem ... it is working04:12
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TheFuzzballfritsch, is it libdvdcss2?04:12
fritschTheFuzzball: no, i dont think you avis need libdvdcss204:12
fritschTheFuzzball: dpkg -i --force-all "w32codecs ...."04:13
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TheFuzzballfritsch, still not working04:16
fritschTheFuzzball: sorry, really no idea ...04:16
fritschTheFuzzball: have tried different file?04:17
TheFuzzballfritsch, what do you mean?04:17
fritschTheFuzzball: your avi broken?04:17
fritschTheFuzzball: mplayer normally plays everything, even half finished torrent movies ...04:18
TheFuzzballfritsch, I don't think so, I played an AVI file on windows and copied it to linux (samba) and it woulden't play04:18
fritschTheFuzzball: ls -larth filename.avi04:18
fritschTheFuzzball: what gives this?04:18
TheFuzzballfritsch, but this SUperman AVI is working04:19
fritschTheFuzzball: so, you see ...04:19
fritschTheFuzzball: ls -larth "yourmovie.avi"04:19
fritschTheFuzzball: something went wrong while copieing 100% sure ...04:19
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TheFuzzballfritsch,  -rw-r--r-- 1 luke luke 388M 2006-08-22 08:44 monsterhouse-cd1.avi04:19
fritschTheFuzzball: try other movies first ...04:20
TheFuzzballfritsch, nothing can go wrong with samba, there was no stalling or anything04:20
fritschTheFuzzball: if this is the only one ... something is very wrong04:20
fritschTheFuzzball: all? other movies are running?04:20
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fritschTheFuzzball: "nothing can go wrong with samba" (TM)04:20
TheFuzzballI only have 4 3 don't work and 1 does04:20
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TheFuzzballfritsch, brb, trying something04:22
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TheFuzzballfritsch, back...04:23
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TheFuzzballfritsch, I will copy the one that I have a problem with to a windows box and see if it plays04:23
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sharkkif i want got root access whatis the passwd?04:24
sharkkim on kubuntu 6.0604:25
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scorpion007sharkk: root is disabled by default, you need to execute those commands using sudo04:27
sharkkok04:27
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sharkkbut is normal that this livecd is very slow?04:28
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blewisit depends on your machine.  I found the live cd quite quick04:30
octando anyone know jabber?04:31
sharkkhow ram and what cpu?04:31
octanjabber-msn is it a server? or just a gateway to existing msn accounts? i mean if i run jabber-msn can i have a msn add like octan@my.add.com?04:31
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sharkki have an intel celeron 1400 MHz and 256 Mb of ram and is quite unusable04:32
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scorpion007sharkk: 256MB may be causing the LiveCD to run more slowly04:34
Dr_Willisif you put a swap partition on  the hard drive. it would help all the live cd's a great deal. (if they saw/used it)04:34
sharkkyes i know, but it is too slowly04:34
Dr_WillisUbuntu/kubuntu live cd - is not that  amazing. :P04:35
sharkk:)04:35
Dr_Willistheres better live cds out.. but they are not ubuntu/kubuntu.04:35
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Dr_Willisdepends on what you are doing.04:35
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sharkki will hope that when the installation finish it will work well04:36
violais it possible to block a package in adept from updating?04:37
h3sp4wnDr_Willis: kanotix uses any swap partition it finds (don't know about others)04:37
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Jazon_officeKubuntu shut my laptop OFF while loadig KDE..... ?!?04:39
Jazon_officeon reboot, I get The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly04:39
Jazon_office(in X)04:40
Jazon_officebut it didnt go to login menu... just straight to kde, like it was in suspend mode or something??04:41
Jazon_officeweird.  now it is working ok...04:42
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xstI'm having a strange problem: I have configured my first kubuntu box to print, through cups, at my second kubuntu box. It used to work flawlessly but suddenly all prints from the remote box is pure garbage. That is, there are some "@PJL SET" lines and nothing else. The host with the physical printer prints just fine and the test page from the printer wizard on the remote host printed a nice page too. But openoffice/acrobat/etc i04:51
xsts just garbage04:51
xstAny ideas on how to solve it?04:51
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trappistxst: if you 'print to file' to a .ps file, and say lp file.ps, does it print correctly?05:02
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redondo81Hi , I have a big problem, is disappered the taskbar on kde for an error and I don't know how to reload it05:03
cannonballredondo81: run 'kicker' from any open terminal05:03
trappistredondo81: alt-f2 and run 'kicker'05:03
trappistheya cannonball05:04
redondo81ok, I try now, thanks05:04
cannonballtrappist: morning dude05:04
trappistkicker and kwin should probably figure out how to restart themselves when they crash05:04
cannonballthe root kde process should monitor that IMHO.05:05
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cannonballWeird how kicker shows up outside of the root kde process.05:06
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xsttrappist: No, also ps-files are messed up (with just a few lines of PJL assignments and nothing more)05:07
trappistxst: have you checked the cups log on the printserver?05:08
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xsttrappist: Nothing special in the logs. :-(   I need to eat. Will be back in a moment05:08
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redondo81I try to lunch the command "kicker" but it says me this error :"The KDE panel (kicker) could not load the main panel due to a problem with your installation"05:09
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redondo81How can I do to restore the taskbar?05:09
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trappistredondo81: sounds bad.  you might need to mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebad and log out and back in.  all your kde settings will be lost if you do, though.  if you really hate the results or it doesn't fix it, you can mv it back.05:10
cannonballredondo81: kicker *IS* the task bar.  Since it won't start, do what trappist says.05:11
redondo81ok, wait05:11
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redondo81I'm not able to move to ~/.kde ~/.kdebad,How can I o?05:12
redondo81do05:13
trappist"mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebad" just like that in a console05:13
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kubuntu_testerhello folks05:14
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redondo81I digit the command and now05:15
kubuntu_testerI have a problem with my digital camera sony cybershot, when I try to use it as mass storage device the linux kernel cant configure it correctly05:15
kubuntu_testerno scsi-emulation is activated05:15
Asgardhey can any1 tell how to run a specific command wen i log in ?05:15
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kubuntu_testersomeone can point me about this?05:15
TheFuzzballfritsch, Its ok, the files were just corrupt05:15
redondo81???05:16
TheFuzzballfritsch, thanks for your help05:16
kubuntu_testerI can show some output message, if needed05:16
redondo81I don't know what to do, I digited the command mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebad but now what?05:16
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trappistredondo81: log out and back in.05:17
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redondo81ok05:17
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kubuntu_testerno one can help me? :-(05:18
trappistkubuntu_tester: lsmod | grep storage05:18
kubuntu_testerit is loaded trappist05:18
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kubuntu_tester$ lsmod | grep storage05:19
kubuntu_testerusb_storage            74176  105:19
kubuntu_testerusbcore               130692  5 usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd05:19
kubuntu_testerscsi_mod              139496  8 usb_storage,ide_scsi,sbp2,sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,ahci,libata05:19
trappistkubuntu_tester: can you pastebin the last 15 or so lines of dmesg (dmesg | tail -n15)?05:19
kubuntu_testerya05:19
trappistplease don't paste here.05:19
redondo81nothing05:19
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redondo81I LOG OUT and log in again05:19
redondo81but the error is still there05:19
trappistredondo81: have you done something recently that may have damaged your kde installation05:19
kubuntu_testertrappist: ok, but it isnt a large paste :P05:20
redondo81I try to install a theme and bsfx for install a theme for the tashbar05:20
redondo81All was ok, but suddenly this error05:20
trappistkubuntu_tester: if it's more than one or maybe two lines, please use pastebin05:20
redondo81:(05:21
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redondo81You think I have to reinstall all the system?05:21
uwohi all - my ipod is being recognised as a canera (mime type camera) - it mounts & functions (synch w amarok) fine, but has the camera icon on desktop & panel - where do i change this?05:21
trappistredondo81: I'm quite sure, since you installed a taskbar theme and your taskbar suddenly stopped working, that the two events are related05:21
kubuntu_testerAug 24 17:21:39 zeus kernel: [17183294.976000]  usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2705:21
kubuntu_testervoila'05:21
kubuntu_testeronly this message05:21
trappistredondo81: how did you install the theme05:21
kubuntu_testerno scsi emulation05:21
trappistkubuntu_tester: that's everything that dmesg said?05:22
trappistwhen you plugged the device in?05:22
redondo81with KManager05:22
trappisttry sudo modprobe -r usb-storage && sudo modprobe usb-storage05:22
kubuntu_testerabout usb mass storage device yes05:22
trappistredondo81: try uninstalling the theme05:22
redondo81ok05:22
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trappistkubuntu_tester: could you just pastebin the last 15 lines of dmesg05:23
kubuntu_testeryes05:23
kubuntu_testerwait05:23
uwotrappist: was the modprobe thing an answer to my q?05:23
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redondo81What is the command to lunch the menager for the installation?05:23
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trappistuwo: no, sorry05:23
uwotrappist: just making sure :)05:24
trappistredondo81: try 'kcontrol'05:24
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kubuntu_testerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2154705:24
redondo81but if I want to deinstall bfsx how can I do?05:24
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trappistkubuntu_tester: everything there appears to be about the insertion of the device, and there should be more before it.  can you expand it to the last 25 lines?05:25
trappistredondo81: the same way you installed it?05:26
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kubuntu_testeryes...but precedent message are about usb-key that works05:26
kubuntu_tester$05:27
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kubuntu_testerT:  Bus=05 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=06 Cnt=01 Dev#= 27 Spd=480 MxCh= 005:27
kubuntu_testerD:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  105:27
kubuntu_testerP:  Vendor=054c ProdID=0010 Rev= 6.0005:27
kubuntu_testerS:  Manufacturer=Sony05:27
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trappistkubuntu_tester: oh, perhaps they're interfering with each other.  have you tried without the usb key?05:27
kubuntu_testerS:  Product=Sony DSC05:27
kubuntu_testerC:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  2mA05:27
kubuntu_testerI:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=ff Prot=01 Driver=(none)05:27
trappistkubuntu_tester: did I mention don't paste here.05:27
kubuntu_testerE:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms05:27
kubuntu_testerE:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms05:27
kubuntu_testerE:  Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=4096ms05:27
kubuntu_testerlsub output05:27
kubuntu_testerya05:27
kubuntu_testersorry, mistake05:27
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kubuntu_testerkubuntu finds my camera device when I use it in PTP mode05:28
kubuntu_testerbut I cant delete pics05:28
kubuntu_testerfrom digikam05:28
kubuntu_testeror with gphoto205:28
kubuntu_testertrappist: why scsi-emulation doesnt start when I plug my camera?05:29
ssddssHi, i had some problems installing XGL+Compiz. Everything was installed fine, but the xorg server crashed the ATI driver, and Compiz doesn't run, altough plugins seems to be loaded05:29
kubuntu_testera problem with protocol?05:30
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uwotry again - my ipod is being recognised as a camera - it mounts & functions (synch w amarok) fine, but has the camera icon on desktop & panel - where do i change this?05:30
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thanat0slu05:31
soulriderhi05:31
thanat0shi ^^05:31
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thanat0ssorry im french xD05:31
soulrider!fr05:31
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:31
soulrider:O05:31
soulridertheres a french channel :)05:32
thanat0sthx05:32
Dr_WillisOh the Humanity! its using the wrong icon! :)05:32
thanat0s:)05:32
trappistkubuntu_tester: scsi emulation starts when the usb-storage module gets loaded.  your usb-key uses it too, and possibly it's interfering05:33
kubuntu_testertrappist: but the camera doesnt work at all, the usb key doesnt interfear05:35
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trappistkubuntu_tester: possibly it doesn't funtion as a normal usb-storage device.  I know some do, but mine doesn't.05:40
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brukeranyone in here who are familiar with MoBlock?05:57
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brukeroops, wrong channel...05:58
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Jucato @_@05:58
HobbseeHymnToLife: *glare*05:59
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Jucatolol06:00
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JucatoGlare: A pokemon move that lowers the enemy's defense06:00
Dr_WillisPokemon is Evil! :P06:00
Jucatolol06:01
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Dr_WillisSome have compared the primary mechanism of Pokmon to the generally-outlawed practice of cockfighting.06:06
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JucatoDr_Willis: heh. well, at least here, in our semi-backward country, cockfighting isn't illegal ^_^06:07
Jazon_officehrmmmm  i have two distros on my laptop.  how do i teach grub that they are both there?06:09
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waylandbillJazon_office: you'll want to look at the grub's manual or a website for that. It's not difficult, really... just another entry06:10
VincentMXJazon_office: put the other distro in /boot/grub/menu.lst06:10
VincentMXeasy06:11
VincentMXdo it all the time06:11
VincentMXi switch OSses a lot06:11
Jucatonot so easy when you don't know what to put or how to do it properly.. ^_^06:11
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VincentMXJucato: it's real simple06:12
VincentMXjust read it a little06:12
JucatoVincentMX: don't teach me, teach him06:12
VincentMXok06:12
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VincentMXJazon_office: it's real simple06:12
VincentMXjust read the menu.lst06:12
JucatoI'm just saying that it's not as simple as we'd all like it to be. and requires a bit of investigating into the directories of that other distro06:12
VincentMXno06:13
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VincentMXit's really simple06:13
VincentMXreally06:13
VincentMXit's far easyer than a gui program will ever be06:13
waylandbillI don't want to sound like I'm saying to JFGI, but there's many good examples out there.06:14
JucatoVincentMX: you have to make sure that the menu.lst entry for that other distro points to the correct vmlinuz files or initrd (or if it even uses initrd)06:14
waylandbillof a menu.lst06:14
VincentMXhmm06:14
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Jucatothen you also have to take into consideration that different distros use different boot options06:14
VincentMXwell, it's real easy for me06:14
Jucatowhat I'm saying is that it's easy for someone who knows their way around06:14
VincentMXok06:15
VincentMXi know very little about computers06:15
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waylandbillubuntu comes with a nice GUI boot menu editor. Kubuntu doesn't AFAIK06:15
VincentMXall i do is write programs in python, run a lan webserver, play around, irc, play music, compile stuff06:15
VincentMXyou should learn programming06:16
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VincentMXthen all config files will be a lot easyer to read06:16
VincentMX:)06:16
VincentMXpython is very good to start with06:16
JucatoVincentMX: you talking to me?06:16
VincentMXyes06:16
Jucatooh. I know my way around menu.lst, thank you06:17
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VincentMXhmm06:17
VincentMXok06:17
waylandbillwas thinking of trying python out myself sometime. I normally do C/C++.06:17
Jucatoand yes, I'm trying to learn programming, but I'm starting with C++06:17
VincentMXthen you know it's a piece of cake06:17
waylandbilltoo much *ack* win32 though. :-/06:18
Jucatoi would just like to repeat what I said: "what I'm saying is that it's easy for someone who knows their way around"06:18
VincentMXok06:18
VincentMXok06:18
VincentMXwhatever06:18
waylandbillJucato: you're right. It's simple when you've already done it several time.06:18
VincentMXi knew it right away06:19
VincentMXjust read few manuals06:19
VincentMXand read the menu.lst06:19
larson9999the old joke is, "it's easy when you know how to do it."06:19
VincentMXand off you go06:19
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JucatoVincentMX: you're one of the blessed few. unfortunately, not everyone is as lucky06:19
VincentMXok06:19
h3sp4wnI thought the old joke was "nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself"06:19
VincentMXhaha06:20
JucatoI learned how to edit the menu.lst by looking at it and seeing the changes, then looking at the directories it points too06:20
Jucatos/too/to06:20
VincentMXyes06:20
Jazon_officeok, I have been trying to make this work, but no luck so far.06:20
Jucatobtw waylandbill, which was too much win3206:20
Jucato(that was supposed to be a question, btw)06:20
waylandbillwhat I program.06:20
Jucatoaaah06:20
waylandbillget paid for it, so I'll do it. :-D06:21
Jucatohahaha06:21
VincentMXyou need to write a very good program, that works only on linux06:21
Jazon_officei sudo grub    find /boot/grub/stage1   and it shows me  (hd0,0)  (hd0,1)     do i root (hd0,0) or (hd0) or what?06:21
VincentMXand not in windows06:21
Jucatoa slave of the quad-colored butterfly06:21
JucatoJazon_office: root (hd0,0) if you want to use that partition's grub06:22
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waylandbillROFL. get out the flyswatter.06:22
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Jucatoroot (hd0,1) if you want to use that other partition's grub06:22
Jazon_officeok, and how to get it to detect the os on hd0,1 ???06:22
VincentMXJazon_office: remember, grub starts counting at 006:22
Jazon_officei know06:22
VincentMXlinux starts counting at 1 and a06:22
VincentMXok06:22
waylandbillanyone do any QT stuff? I just ordered a book.06:23
VincentMXo hda1 is hd0,006:23
JucatoJazon_office: it won't "detect" it, AFAIK. you have to add it manually in menu.lst06:23
Jazon_officei know....  hda2 is hd0,106:23
VincentMXgood06:23
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VincentMXnow im off06:23
VincentMXcya06:23
Jucatowaylandbill: I wish Qt books were easily available here... I'd buy them at once!06:23
Jazon_officeahhhhh ok, there we go.  so i need to somehow get the parameters....06:23
Jazon_officebut it wont let me mount hda206:24
Jazon_officesays it isnt in the fstab06:24
waylandbillJucato: where are you located?06:24
Jucatowaylandbill: philippines. lol06:24
waylandbill:)06:24
Jazon_officeJucato:  kumusta???06:24
JucatoJazon_office: you have to 1) create a mount point for it; 2) mount it06:24
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JucatoJazon_office: ok lang po06:25
Jazon_officejucato:  hindi ako mabuting ng inyong wica   (or something like that)06:25
Jazon_office:P06:25
Jucatolol06:25
Jazon_officejucato:  hindi ako mabuting mag salita ng inyong wica   (better?)06:26
Jucatofor the sake of non-FIlipino speakers, Jazon_office asked me how I was, I answered I was fine/doing ok, then he said (or at least what I think he was sayng) that he wasn't good with our language06:26
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Jazon_officehehe - thats it.....  it's been 12 years... and i never was totally fluent06:26
waylandbillI know computer languages better than english... as far as my english professors were concerned anyway. :-D06:27
Jazon_officeok, i did sudo mkdir /mnt/other   now how do i mount it there?06:27
JucatoJazon_office: anyway, to get back to your question, one trick I use to find out the "correct" parameters/menu.lst entry for the distro I was trying to add was to look in that distro's own menu.lst06:27
Jazon_officeJucato exactly what i am up to :P06:28
JucatoJazon_office: if you're the GUI type of guy, you can easily make and mount partitions in System Settings > Disks & Filesystems06:28
waylandbillJucato: that's a good idea.06:28
Dr_Willis:)06:29
Jazon_officegot it    sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/other   :D06:29
Jucatowaylandbill: ehehe! that's the way I learned about grub. but I still don't really know much about the other options/parameters06:29
JucatoJazon_office: of course, presuming /mnt/other already exists :-D06:30
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Dr_Willisheh - im editing the pokemon wiki page.. cool.06:30
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Jucatoaaah! the advantages and disadvantages of wikipedia...06:30
waylandbillJucato: i learned by having two computers so I could browse web pages while rebooting the other alot... trial and error.. on gentoo besides. :-)06:31
Jazon_officeJucato i made it06:31
JucatoI'm surprised no one has edited the page yet and said that Pokemon is evil because some of the pokemon grow horns when they evolve06:31
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Jucatowaylandbill: I didn't have the luxury of having 2 computers :-D06:32
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slemonnierDoes anyone know why my Ubuntu file system is ready only?06:32
waylandbillJucato: you probably learned better that way anyhow06:32
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atidemhello06:32
Jucatoslemonnier: because Linux was made that way. Normal users/accounts don't have normal access to anything except their home folders06:32
atidemis there a place where can I find the latest kernel version in deb format?06:33
Jucatohome folders = /home/username06:33
waylandbillwikipedia has editors though. If you put something bogus, eventually it'll be fixed.06:33
Jucatoatidem: http://packages.ubuntu.com06:33
h3sp4wnatidem: only by running edgy (but its still not the absolute latest)06:33
Jucatooh..06:33
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JucatoI didn't see the "latest"...06:33
Jucatosorry about that....06:33
Jucatomy bad..06:34
slemonnierI want to edit my xconfig. but it wont let me because it's ready only06:34
pascal_Did anyone make kubuntu packages for Amarok 1.4.2 yet?06:34
Jucatoslemonnier: you need to have special or administrative permissions to do that. that's what we use sudo for06:34
Jucatopascal06:35
Jucato!amarok06:35
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/06:35
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slemonnierOk06:35
slemonnierThanks06:35
Jucatoimbrandon, thanks for making this available to both Dapper and Edgy (hope I'm not disturbing you)06:35
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Jucatoslemonnier: are you trying to edit xorg.conf?06:35
pascal_uhh, thank you ubotu06:35
waylandbillslemonnier: thatt's to "protect" against "fumble fingers" :-D06:36
Jucatohehe! I wonder if that bot keeps tabs on how many times it has been thanked?06:36
Jucato(or fumble heads... @_@ )06:36
waylandbilllol06:36
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JucatoI'm wondering if it's possible at all to make OO.o Word open multiple documents in one window...06:38
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waylandbillback when I had multiple users on windows at home, I tried the same idea as *nix. Only have admin priv's when needed.. You wouldn't believe how many closed software authors want admin priv's...06:38
slemonnierNo "fumble FINGERS" ...yet!06:38
Jazon_officeis gb.archive.ubuntu.com down?06:38
JucatoJazon_office: try replacing it with uk.archive.ubuntu.com06:38
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waylandbillfor stupid things... like a game needs em.. .BAH!06:38
Jazon_officek06:38
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Jucatoheheh!06:39
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ubuntuhello06:39
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Jucatoafter using Linux, I've had some problems trying to implement a similar privilege system in Xp06:39
waylandbillsomeone else was complaining about GB mirror this morning. must be having trouble.06:39
JucatoI know it's possible,but I guess the proper way isn't that too obvious...06:39
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Jucatoheh, I've been hearing about GB complaints since last month06:40
JucatoI usually tell them to switch to UK.06:40
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waylandbillJucato: The system itself is not hard, when you enable advanced file permissions. The problem is almost every software title assumes you are the admin.06:40
Jucatomaybe they're slowly changing it to make it more "politically correct"?06:40
Jucatowaylandbill: well, in Linux, all software must be installed by the admin anyway06:41
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Jucatoit's just strange that some software can be installed in XP with only a limited account06:41
lupine_85well, the GB one could be located in gibraltar for all we know ;)06:41
suportecd ipora06:41
lupine_85or norfolk...06:41
suporte#ipora06:41
Jucato?06:41
waylandbillIt's not a fault of windows either... it's the fault of the 3rd party developer making a bad assumption06:41
abattoirsuporte: /join #ipora06:41
Jucatoor in the Gall Bladder06:41
intelikeyJucato some software can be installed in linux in user space06:42
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Jucatowaylandbill: well, it could be the fault of Windows making it possible to install software without being an admin06:42
lupine_85erm, I was referring to "great britain" ;)06:42
Jucatointelikey: really? never knew that...06:42
z00manyone cool with compiling source code in here, need some help06:42
Jucatolupine_85: i was just joking...06:42
waylandbillsome software doesn't affect anything but the current user though... under both systems06:42
lupine_85I know :)06:42
abattoirz00m: what's the problem?06:43
intelikeyJucato things installed in user space are not accessable by others06:43
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waylandbillI wouldn't want to check with my admin just to write a simple perl script. :-D06:43
z00mabattoir: trying to compile vnc-4_1_1-unixsrc.tar.gz06:43
Jucatointelikey: ok... except for scripts and themes, what else can be installed without admin privileges?06:43
z00mshall i post my output from the terminal ?06:44
suportevixi, algum do brasil ai?06:44
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z00m!pastbin06:44
abattoirz00m: yes, please pastebin it06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
abattoir!pastebin06:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:44
Jucatohi abattoir!06:44
abattoirz00m: do you have all the dependencies installed?06:44
AgiosYou can install most application software in userspace in Linux. It's just not often done that way because it would have to be installed for each individual user that wants it.06:44
abattoirhello Jucato :)06:44
intelikeyJucato i don't have a list  but i've see a few apps06:44
intelikeytestdisk is one06:44
z00mabattoir: think so yea because ./configure does not seem to have any errors or make06:45
Jucatoah I see06:45
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intelikeya quick search at sourceforge would be much more revieling06:45
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Jucatoso is it possible to install something from the repository, or a deb which only my user can see?06:46
waylandbillthe thing with installing on windoze as a limited user though... some programs don't check until runtime if they can even do what they require.06:46
z00mabattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2155206:47
abattoirJucato: well, if you modify the control file for the deps., and somehow manage lib dep.(symlinks maybe?), then i guess its possible... never tried it though06:47
abattoir*control file for the .deb06:47
JucatoI see...06:48
Jucatohehehe! you really learn something new each day in Linux06:48
z00mabattoir: did you take a look06:48
Jazon_officecan i get a pretty grub menu?06:48
AgiosI installed googleearth in userspace to play with it06:48
abattoirJucato: that is just my guess... not sure it would work...06:48
abattoirz00m: yes.. one sec :)06:48
z00mabattoir:  ok06:49
Jazon_officeidid the sudo apt-get gfxboot gfxboot-ubuntu-themes    but dont see how it changed anything06:49
Agiosmake it easy to get rid of :)06:49
Jucatoz00m: did you run "make" after "./configure"?06:49
z00myes06:49
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waylandbillgrub supports graphical menu doesn't it? Like, with a background splash image?06:49
JucatoJazon_office: I think it needs more tweaking than simply installing gfxboot06:49
Jucatowaylandbill: yeah, but not as "pretty" as gfxboot06:49
z00mabattoir: shall i start a fresh and then post all the output ?06:50
abattoirz00m: does the INSTALL file mention some other method of installation?06:50
Jazon_officeso remove grub?06:50
Jazon_officei need a howto06:50
Jazon_officeheh06:50
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abattoirz00m: ok06:50
z00mabattoir: no just info on what it is06:50
Jazon_officegoogle earth is easy man06:50
intelikeyJucato i don't think dpkg is intended for user install  you might have to change some default there.   i was thinking of source not packaged things   but i have see several things in tarball form that would allow root-free installation. (all in user space)06:50
Jazon_officego to the google earth website, download the linux file, chmod +x it, and click and watch the magic ahppen06:51
waylandbillgfxboot. that probably looks like suse?06:51
JucatoJazon_office: try this  link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855&highlight=gfxboot06:51
z00mabattoir: shall i start a fresh with the compile /06:51
Jazon_officehehe - thats what ive been up to :P06:52
abattoirz00m: yes06:52
z00mok06:52
Jucatook... I just thought that being able to install software without the knowledge of the admin is quite contrary to the purpose of the admin, right? I mean it's one thing to be able to create data in your userspace w/o the knowledge of the admin, but another thing to install software06:53
Jucatobut I guess it's also inconvenient to have to ask the admin for permission everytime a software needs to be installed06:53
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Jucatoannoying for both admin and user...06:54
waylandbillJucato: if you are only doing stuff your own files, you shouldn't have to bother the admin06:54
h3sp4wnThere is nothing wrong with installing some things in your home directory06:55
Jucatook. clearly I had this whole privilege+software installation concept in Linux all wrong...06:55
h3sp4wnIf the admin doesn't want you compiling stuff then they should make it so it cannot happen06:55
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Dr_Willis:)06:56
Dr_Willisthinking of it in 'windows terms' ?06:56
z00mabattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2155306:56
JucatoDr_Willis: actually, I was trying to think about it outside of "windows terms"06:56
h3sp4wn~/bin is a perfectly reasonable place to install stuff06:56
larson9999is the general idea of config directories named like *.d to concatenate all of the files in that dir to create on config file?06:56
JucatoI'm not really familiar with how XP handles users/user privileges06:57
waylandbillh3sp4wn: yup. ~/bin is a very friendly place.06:57
intelikeywell i have cludged my way through building a kernel to very specific hardware needs,  it's just a little bit big yet, still trimming the fat from it.  2123956 bites    i'd like to get it under 1.3m    you might say why so big.  well it doesn't need an initramfs and all modules i load are now built in so it doesn't even need module support.06:57
Dr_WillisJucato,  handles them very badly from what ive seen.06:57
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Dr_WillisJucato,  ms crippled XP-Home in that area in such a way that makes it useless.06:57
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waylandbillJucato: they tried to make it like *nix, and didn't do very well at it.06:57
Jucatoehehe! I remember now a program that doesn't need admin privileges to run/install06:57
intelikeyJucato as to admin/setup  the admin could add you to sudo with permission to   apt-get install *   only  :)06:58
Dr_WillisI can limit my wife so she cant do stuff.. and end up making it where she cant even print..06:58
Jucatoand guess what, I have it "installed" and I didn't even realize I didn't need "sudo" to install it06:58
waylandbillI agree with Dr_Willis. XP-Home is useless in that department06:58
z00mabattoir: at the end there us make istall, for get that i tryed the right way after with same result make install06:58
larson9999i think the real issue for xp is that everyone is in the mindset that it's ok for programs to require special priveledges to run06:58
Jucatoactually, normal users in XP don't even know about "special privileges"06:59
waylandbillintelikey: right... in passwordless mode.06:59
Dr_WillisI think the whole idea of a XP-Home and XP-Pro is stupid.06:59
intelikeywaylandbill correct06:59
Jucatostupid.. but lucrative...06:59
Dr_WillisBut we dont want to get that started...06:59
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waylandbillDr_Willis: $$ is the only reason.06:59
Dr_WillisAPPLE dosent seem to need to do it that way. :)06:59
Jucatoand Vista will have more than twice that amount07:00
Dr_Willisand i dont want to recall the # of times ive heard people say that pro is 'faster' 'better drivers' or other inane comments. :)07:00
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waylandbillHAH!07:00
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intelikeyecho "ALL NOPASSWD:apt-get install * " >> /etc/sudo    (don't try that, the line end will probably break sudo)  just an example.07:01
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Jucatoehehe07:01
larson9999all of that adds up to why i can't for the life of me understand why linux users keep using xp for personal use.07:01
abattoirz00m: where did you get the file from? url?07:02
Jucatolarson9999: they/we keep xp for personal use because of personal reasons?07:02
z00mabattoir: http://jkp-se.lunar-linux.org/lunar/mirrors/07:02
waylandbilllarson9999: wierd. I use linux for personal reasons. :-D07:02
larson9999Jucato: sure, and i can't understand any of them.07:02
z00mabattoir: vnc-4_1_1-unixsrc.tar.gz07:02
intelikeyactually to make that anywhere near secure you need full path.   else some wise guy will write a script with '#!/bin/sh \nbash'  in it and name it apt-get  then run sudo ./apt-get install blah     badabing he's root.07:03
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Jucatolarson9999: I can think of a few: addiction to games, inseperability from Photoshop, a relative who doesn't want to use Linux, Windows-powered smartphone software, etc. (last 2 reasons are based on my personal reasons)07:03
richardh_Hi, anyone know how to make WEP enabled WIFI connect at start-up?07:04
abattoirz00m: i think you should use the vncinstall script07:05
h3sp4wnrichardh_: /etc/network/interfaces07:05
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waylandbillJucato: PS2, Gimp, disown relative, new smartphone. ;-07:05
abattoirz00m: that's what the README suggests07:05
waylandbill;-)07:05
h3sp4wnrichardh_: But really you should use wpa (wep is pretty pointless)07:05
z00mabattoir: will have a look now07:05
richardh_h3sp4wn: yes, I tried, entered the key and all that...simply doesn't connect at start-up07:05
intelikeyQUICK QUESTION.  any way to get mozilla to run in console frame buffered  ?07:05
lupine_85not a chance intelikey07:05
richardh_hesp4wn: WEP's enough to keep the neighbors out07:06
lupine_85use lynx and links07:06
h3sp4wnrichardh_: auto wifi0 (or whatever the interface name needs to be in it) - does sudo ifup wifi0 work (or whatever the ifname is)07:06
lupine_85richardh: wep can be broken in 3 minutes07:06
intelikeyyean links2 -g  but no ssl suppotr07:06
intelikeyrt07:06
waylandbillI forced linux on my relatives. I must be a great guy... they didn't kill me and actually realized that it works well. :P07:06
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aliasfredwep is nice against your little sister, if she doesnt know how to use a computer :)07:06
intelikeylynx but no graphics support07:06
Jucatowaylandbill: (Asian) MMORPGs, GIMP is... (no comment), I'd love to do that but I still love her, out of budget :-D07:06
z00mabattoir: thanks that did the trick, ;)07:06
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abattoirz00m: :)07:07
lupine_85...and if she hasn't learned to walk yet07:07
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waylandbillintelikey: elinks does ssl07:07
aliasfredthose wifi guys cant do a crypto stuff, i have no idea why07:07
h3sp4wnwep is more difficult to setup than wpa anyway - no reason to use it at all (upgrade the routers firmware to support wpa if you can)07:07
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intelikeywaylandbill and grapnics ?07:07
aliasfredthey tried like 3 or 4 time and failed each and every time07:07
intelikeykewllio tanks07:07
waylandbillintelikey: for crap, but gmail works. ;-)07:07
larson9999Jucato: and i can't understand why someone who hates M$ and likes linux would continue to use xp for home use for reasons like those.  games?  there are so many games that run in linux these days you have a true addiction if you can't get your fix in linux.  for home use, gimpshop is more than good enough.  and for anything else, if you hate windows so much(i don't know that you do and if you don't you don't fit because i'm talking07:08
larson9999 about those who claim to hate windows).  for the rest i just don't use things at home that don't support linux.  in my mind doing otherwise indicates you don't really hate windows any more than linux.07:08
richardh_h3sp4n: my interface is included...it's called eth1 here...do I need to make Kubuntu use the wifi0 interface?07:08
h3sp4wnrichardh_: just use auto eth1 then07:08
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waylandbilllarson9999: Hazzuh! Well put!07:09
Jucatolarson9999: of course, you are presuming that hypothetical person A hates Windows so much and yet keeps XP around for aforementioned reasons...07:09
intelikeyi've got 1024x768@24bit fb working in the kernel so pictures are pretty sharp in console mode.07:09
richardh_h3sp4wn: well, that's what I'm doing...it still doesn't connect though...I need to open up the wifi-GUI and connect manually07:09
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Jucatobut what about hypothetical person B who just likes Linux for what it is, not out of hatred for M$, but keeps XP around for the aforementioned reasons?07:09
waylandbillOf course, the counter arg is that I hate take out the trash, but still do it. :-)07:09
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h3sp4wnrichardh_: if sudo ifup eth1 doesn't work then /etc/network/interfaces is not setup right07:10
intelikeyJucato been there07:10
larson9999Jucato: yeah.  i just get irked by those who claim to HATE windows but keep using it for those kinds of reasons.  i have no illwill towards windows or any OS or those who like any OS07:10
intelikeyi learned to hate M$ anyway07:10
richardh_ok07:10
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intelikey:)07:10
Jucatoheh, seems to be the trend for new Linux users to proclaim their loyalty to Linux by bashing M$...07:10
waylandbillI dislike M$ for the way they handle things, not for their OS.07:11
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larson9999Jucato: person B is perfectly understandable in my mind07:11
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intelikeyyeah, i guess i'm a new linux juser my self.....  just don't think of myself in those terms any more.07:11
larson9999waylandbill: and to me if you hate a company's practice you shouldn't use their products.07:11
h3sp4wnI think alot of people who claim to use linux use it less than 5% of the time07:12
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waylandbilllarson9999: you're right there07:12
h3sp4wnJust spend ages getting it installed and then use windows most of the time anyway07:12
JucatoI'm personally not bothered (usually) by M$'s unethical business practices. My sister isn't also, and I've found her to have higher moral standards than me. She justifies it by saying "Gates Foundation"07:12
intelikeyh3sp4wn you might be right....   lol07:12
Jucatolarson9999: btw, I'm person B. thank you for understanding :-D07:12
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Dr_WillisI dislike how MS handles their OS.07:13
intelikeylarson9999 here here.07:13
Jucatohi draik!07:14
waylandbillh3sp4wn: I'm thinking as the FOSS snowball continues downhill, the "ages" to install should get smaller.07:14
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draikHey Jucato07:14
larson9999actually i'm building up a list of different OSs so i can use a different one every day.  going to shoot for 7.  linux/bsd will only account for 107:14
Dr_WillisBeOS!07:15
Dr_Willis:P07:15
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Jucatoisn't BeOS now known as Haiku?07:15
larson9999Dr_Willis: i forgot.  free OSS OSs07:15
waylandbillDr_Willis: I recall that someone claimed we'd never need over 640k RAM.07:15
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h3sp4wnrichardh_: http://llaic3.u-clermont1.fr/~mr/linux/configreseau_en.shtml#wifiiface (have a look at that)07:15
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Dr_WillisJucato,  no idea.. BeOS managed to screw itself over also.07:15
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waylandbillintelikey: LOL!07:15
Jucatoheheh07:15
larson9999Jucato: no.  haiku is an opensource version but not beos07:15
Dr_WillisThey had a neat niche.. then they went "ok screw the pc market.. lets go for the embeded market!'07:16
Jucatoaaah. then add Haiku to you list :-D07:16
larson9999Jucato: like linux isn't unix07:16
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lupine_85didn't IBM say there was no reason for anyone to have a computer at home?07:16
h3sp4wnwaylandbill: I think ubuntu/suse/redhat/novell are getting more an more bloated and slower (possibly even to the point where after a clean install windows may even be faster)07:16
larson9999lupine_85: funny, i now have a mainframe at home thanks to hercules07:17
intelikeylarson9999 linux isn't unix.   it is a unix clone writen form the ground up.07:17
Jucatobut what Bill said, and probably what IBM said, was only based on what they knew at that time07:17
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richardh_h3sp4wn: thanks a lot07:17
Jucatoyou can't expect them to predict the future accurately, right?07:17
waylandbillh3sp4wn: actually, the last Suse and Fedora installs were hours. You have a point07:17
larson9999intelikey: yeah and haiku is similar with regard to beos07:17
Jucatolinux is based on minix which was based on unix...07:18
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larson9999i have fc5 running on my son's machine now.  it's just as snappy as *buntu and the install was just as painless.  the only issue is that yum is so SLOW07:18
Dr_Willislast i even tried BeOS - it wouldent install on my  newer pc.. and the silly iso-image files were a pain to burn. (i think they dident use .iso, they used somthing else)07:18
Dr_Willis:P07:18
lupine_85larson: install apt-rpm ;)07:18
intelikeyfirst release of linux linus proclamed it has no *** code in it.07:18
JucatoI tried running openSUSE 10.1 with KDE 3.5.4 using a VMWare machine... surprisingly it was running fast considering it's on VMWare...07:18
intelikeyas far as i know, no one ever proved him wrong.07:19
waylandbillWell... I see new packages for Linux and days later FreeBSD is putting it in ports, so they may be going hand-in-hand on some respects07:19
larson9999lupine_85: yeah but that goes to my not supporting companies who chose very crappy defaults :)07:19
intelikeyand it is open source.07:19
h3sp4wnCompare the speed of kde on etch and on kubuntu (somewhere alot of performance was lost)07:19
intelikeywaylandbill you mean GNU packages.   linux is the kernel.07:19
Jucatocomparing the speed of KDE on Kubuntu and MEPIS, somewhere performance was gained...07:19
waylandbillintelikey: right.. I meant GNU/Linux.07:20
intelikeylinux is a registered trade mark of linux travolds open source kernel "linux"    :)07:20
waylandbill:-)07:20
intelikeylinus  ^07:20
lupine_85not in Australia it isn't07:21
waylandbillI used the "Gnu/" as a "silent E"07:21
ChousukeLinux Torvalds ;P07:21
larson9999from what i read in linus' book it wasn't based on minix.  rather he thought he wanted something like it for the pc but didn't like some of the way minix worked.  but it didn't seem to me it was based on minix any more than unix.  maybe i read that wrong.07:22
ChousukeThe man will have to change his name someday07:22
intelikeyChousuke typo.  i corrected ^07:22
h3sp4wnwaylandbill: For me (recently) kde works alot faster on debian or freebsd - than on kubuntu (I have been trying to work out why but I think there are many things)07:22
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lupine_85he didn't like the microkernel architecture of minix, IIRC07:22
Chousukewas the original minix a microkernel OS?07:22
larson9999lupine_85: that and file access is what i think the book says07:23
Jucatoprobably "minix inspired" then? :-D07:23
h3sp4wnminix is definately a microkernel07:23
ChousukeI know Minix 3 is, but I'm not ure of the older ones.07:23
Chousukesure*07:23
intelikeyread all about it as&nbs