basbryan | Intangir: same error.... | 12:01 |
Intangir | hrm.. wtf | 12:01 |
Intangir | try just .. apt-get install gnome-terminal? | 12:01 |
Flamekebab | I don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it? | 12:01 |
basbryan | Intangir: hold on | 12:01 |
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gnomefreak | Jack_Sparrow: kubuntu works fine in dapper and edgy atm | 12:01 |
Jack_Sparrow | gnomefreak: I have had nothing but problems with Kubuntu and noting but praise of Ubuntu | 12:01 |
Intangir | oh wait.. well | 12:01 |
basbryan | Intangir: aptitude gave better output i miised it | 12:01 |
Intangir | you could try apt-get update first | 12:01 |
verix | AZzKikR: what flag tells this file that ath0/eth0/1/2 or whatever is the default gateway? I don't see any indications... | 12:01 |
synic | verix: route add defaul gw <address> dev ath0 | 12:01 |
gnomefreak | Intangir: why downgrading terminal? | 12:01 |
Intangir | the repo was down for me earlier though | 12:01 |
verix | synic: ah okay | 12:01 |
Dravas | I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window | 12:02 |
basbryan | Intangir: gnome-terminal-data needs to be downgraded to downgrade gnome-terminal | 12:02 |
Intangir | gnomefreak: hes got issues with one of the newer versions possibly | 12:02 |
happy-and-lost | Wireless anyone? Intell 2200GB. It's got a driver, it's enabled, it's connected... but it's only recieving empty packets. Why?! | 12:02 |
verix | is <address> an IP or MacAddr? | 12:02 |
Jack_Sparrow | gnomefreak: And I have never really liked Gnome.. but it works... | 12:02 |
synic | an ip | 12:02 |
gnomefreak | basbryan: alot more than just that | 12:02 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ? | 12:02 |
verix | k | 12:02 |
basbryan | Intangir: i updated 30 min ago | 12:02 |
jason__ | I have a pretty simple question. What is the equivalent of the Windows "run" program in Ubuntu? I've been looking it up but have been unsuccessful | 12:02 |
jvai | reset your router | 12:02 |
basbryan | jason__: alt-f2 | 12:02 |
verix | jason__: Applications > Accessories > Terminal | 12:02 |
AZzKikR | what kind of interface is an ath0 interface? | 12:02 |
gnomefreak | Intangir: basbryan if im not mistaken you need to downgrade a crap load of packages | 12:02 |
verix | wireless | 12:02 |
Jack_Sparrow | jason__: What are you trying to run? | 12:03 |
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AZzKikR | i've only seen ra0 and eth0 kinds | 12:03 |
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verix | ath0 = atheros based wireless | 12:03 |
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AZzKikR | ah | 12:03 |
Flamekebab | I don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it? | 12:03 |
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ubuntu | hi | 12:03 |
Intangir | gnomefreak: that aptitude takes care of downgrading dependancies also, thats why i told him use aptitude | 12:03 |
lupine | wmaster0 is fun :) | 12:03 |
Intangir | apt-get just complains | 12:03 |
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Intangir | but for me even the very newest versions from quinn work fine | 12:03 |
JoseStefan | Flamekebab, ask in #unbuntu-xgl | 12:03 |
Intangir | now.. i think they got rid of some | 12:03 |
gnomefreak | Intangir: sometimes but this case it should | 12:03 |
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JoseStefan | oops #ubuntu-xgl | 12:04 |
jvai | my hoary backports r broke .... but all's good tho | 12:04 |
Flamekebab | I just thought it might be an easy "yes or no" question | 12:04 |
Intangir | Flamekebab: probably | 12:04 |
AZzKikR | JoseStefan: i always type unbuntu by accident too :P | 12:04 |
Intangir | Flamekebab: i bet you can | 12:04 |
jhutchins_lt | Is there a way to enable a serial mouse with the live CD? | 12:04 |
AndyCooll | Laptop wireless help needed | 12:04 |
sean | can anyone help me on why my downloads stop downloading? | 12:04 |
JoseStefan | Flamekebab, i really dont know, you might even have to go as far as getting 3rd party compiz+xgl repositories | 12:04 |
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sean | http://71.139.0.188:23456/images/DownloadStopping.png is the screenshot | 12:05 |
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AndyCooll | I have a Toshiba Satellite with Belkin PCMCIA wireless notebook card | 12:05 |
sean | if anyone wants to help | 12:05 |
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JoseStefan | AZzKikR, do not disassemble Johnny Five | 12:05 |
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ubuntu | jhutchins_lt: mouse wont work? | 12:05 |
ubuntu | keep the cat out :D | 12:05 |
AndyCooll | When I try to login it just hangs | 12:05 |
Intangir | AndyCooll: log in where? | 12:05 |
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HNT | hello everybody, i try to install the nvidia driver but i'v got a problem at the start of Xorg, he said me that the nvidia kernel module have a different number that the nvidia binary (nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common) howto fix it ? | 12:05 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ? | 12:06 |
JoseStefan | AZzKikR, ...unbuntu is not good :| | 12:06 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: wab is windows address book | 12:06 |
AndyCooll | On first login, just putting in my name and password | 12:06 |
flyingcircus97 | what's up with Xorg? | 12:06 |
AndyCooll | Accepts the password but doesn't get as far as the desktop | 12:07 |
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Intangir | HNT: sec.. | 12:07 |
JoseStefan | flyingcircus97, specifically ? | 12:07 |
ubuntu | AndyCooll: can u login in console? | 12:07 |
sean | okay | 12:07 |
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flyingcircus97 | After an update last night, Xorg is broken, X server failed to start. | 12:07 |
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sean | nevermind guys | 12:07 |
sean | it just timed out | 12:07 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | ubuntu: yes true. how can i convet that file ? | 12:07 |
Jack_Sparrow | MotorCityMadMan1: what created the wab ? | 12:07 |
AndyCooll | ubuntu: yes | 12:07 |
JoseStefan | flyingcircus97, you'll need to do another update, thru the CLI | 12:07 |
Intangir | HNT: you need to get nvidia-glx, and the linux-restricted-modules package that matched your kernel | 12:07 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | outlook | 12:08 |
JoseStefan | flyingcircus97, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade | 12:08 |
Jack_Sparrow | MotorCityMadMan1: OUtlook should export a csv file | 12:08 |
flyingcircus97 | Thanks. So they fixed it already. | 12:08 |
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AZzKikR | well, no way im gonna update at the moment :D | 12:08 |
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javaJake | Hello guys | 12:08 |
ali4728 | Help needed...! I am trying to copy files from mounted wondows partition to my linux partition "cp" because file and folder names have space in "W" I get error any suggestions? | 12:08 |
fluvvell | MotorCityMadMan1: mozilla thunderbird may be able to import a .wab file | 12:08 |
javaJake | ali4728, what? | 12:09 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | yes thank you. i was trying to convert the file with out leaveing linux | 12:09 |
JoseStefan | ali4728, try using cp with quotes | 12:09 |
jake1 | yay download is done | 12:09 |
javaJake | Or, put a \ before spaces | 12:09 |
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AZzKikR | ali4728: to copy files or folders, you'd have to prepend the space with a \ | 12:09 |
javaJake | I have my own problem | 12:09 |
ali4728 | JoseStefan: thanx thats clever | 12:09 |
AndyCooll | ubuntu: though if I try "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" for instance that hangs the console too | 12:09 |
javaJake | A seemingly random kernel crash | 12:09 |
javaJake | With direct rendering enabled | 12:10 |
jhutchins_lt | I'm using kubuntu to copy an old disk to a new one using tar, and for some reason it kept spinning up the CD, so I ejected it. | 12:10 |
javaJake | Nothing in the logs | 12:10 |
happy-and-lost | My router is working fine (connected now) my wifi card has a driver and is enabled, it's connected with 95% signal strength... but it's recieving empty packets. Why? | 12:10 |
Intangir | AndyCooll: are you using NIS? | 12:10 |
javaJake | But the card is an ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY | 12:10 |
HNT | Intangir : yes but the problem is that nvidia-glx require linux-restricted-modules for a 2.6.15.23 kernel and i'm running with a 2.6.15.21 (default) so ... ? | 12:10 |
javaJake | With OPENGL! YEA! | 12:10 |
jhutchins_lt | Then I tried to edit xorg.conf (to enable my mouse) and POOF - locked the system. | 12:10 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | fluvvell: thunderbird will not import a wab file | 12:10 |
Intangir | HNT: upgrade your kernel? hehe | 12:10 |
AndyCooll | Intangir: NIS? | 12:10 |
jhutchins_lt | Speaking of logs, where do they live on kubuntu? I'm used to /var/log/messages | 12:10 |
JoseStefan | HNT, you might need to update your kernel | 12:10 |
lupine | happy-and-lost: dodgy driver or firmware? | 12:10 |
edulix | hi! | 12:10 |
jvai | @happy- sumtymes it's concast or verizon... u may have to reset your router | 12:10 |
javaJake | VAR/LOG | 12:10 |
edulix | hey where can I find a xgl live cd? | 12:11 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: do u have kmail? | 12:11 |
javaJake | JoseStefan, are you talking to me? | 12:11 |
happy-and-lost | It's a fresh install | 12:11 |
HNT | k thanks | 12:11 |
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cafuego | HNT: The latest (fixed) kernel is 2.6.15-26 | 12:11 |
happy-and-lost | Haven't touched it. Intel 2200BG | 12:11 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | ubuntu: looking | 12:11 |
fluvvell | MotorCityMadMan1: sry, it may have been within windows i did that. You can import into tb from outlook in the windows version. | 12:11 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, nope | 12:11 |
javaJake | OK | 12:11 |
javaJake | :P | 12:11 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, now i am | 12:11 |
javaJake | Haha | 12:11 |
flyingcircus97 | Thanks for the advice, Jose, Xorg is up. | 12:11 |
javaJake | Can ya help? | 12:11 |
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JoseStefan | flyingcircus97, ok np | 12:11 |
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beloc | hello | 12:12 |
beloc | il y a des frenchy | 12:12 |
fluvvell | MotorCityMadMan1: any idea of the structure of the .wab file? I don't have one to look at for now. Many things can be converted, its just a matter of by what method. | 12:12 |
Dravas | I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that | 12:12 |
javaJake | ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY + Direct Rendering enabled = kernel hard crash = HEEEEELP! | 12:12 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, dont know :( | 12:12 |
Intangir | javaJake: upgrade your driver? or get an nvidia ;) | 12:12 |
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Intangir | oh its in a laptop isn it.. | 12:12 |
ali4728 | AZzKikR is it like this? "this is win file" "this\ is \ win \file" | 12:12 |
javaJake | Intangir, latest kernel (2.16.XX-26-306) | 12:12 |
javaJake | Intangir, yes | 12:13 |
rnd_null | i just installed ubuntu 6.06 on an Averatec 2200 and am having trouble with the wireless card, anyone able to lend a hand? | 12:13 |
AZzKikR | ali4728: yeah | 12:13 |
javaJake | rnd_null | 12:13 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | fluvvell: structure ? how do i know ? | 12:13 |
javaJake | Yes | 12:13 |
Intangir | update your video drivers too though | 12:13 |
ali4728 | AZzKikR: thnx | 12:13 |
javaJake | Intangir, how? | 12:13 |
Intangir | for ati? i have no idea | 12:13 |
javaJake | Intangir, I have all updates - xorg (ugh) installed | 12:13 |
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Intangir | i couldnt figure out how to install proper ATI drivers on this crapp card i got, im using vesa | 12:13 |
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javaJake | It's the radeon driver that comes with the kernel | 12:13 |
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Intangir | the video driver, on newer cards comes from ATI somehow | 12:13 |
Intangir | older ones have an open source driver you can use | 12:14 |
AZzKikR | ali4728: another example: cp -R /media/windows/Program\ Files ~/myProgramFiles/ | 12:14 |
javaJake | Well, proprietary ones don't work - they only work on the newer ones | 12:14 |
jake1 | is there a particular reason why when i am installing Ubuntu from boot CD does only a portion of my screen show up | 12:14 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, you might be loading unsupported xorg modules for your gfx card | 12:14 |
ubuntu | anu luck? | 12:14 |
javaJake | This card is at least 3 years old | 12:14 |
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jake1 | it makes the installer unusable | 12:14 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: any luck dude? | 12:14 |
ubuntu | do u have kmail? | 12:14 |
javaJake | JoseStefan, so radeon is unsupported!? | 12:14 |
sholden | Has anyone tried setting the hot key for Gnome Deskbar? I am trying to set the hot key to <ALT>` but it is not working. I've been toying with it for a while, but can't find any good documentation. Any suggestions? | 12:14 |
javaJake | GLX!? | 12:14 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | ubuntu: i can install kmail. will that work ? | 12:14 |
javaJake | GLcore!? | 12:14 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, i mean specific xorg modules | 12:14 |
javaJake | Nope | 12:14 |
javaJake | Not really | 12:14 |
javaJake | They're all pretty generic | 12:15 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: it has tool called kamilcvt download both, it will convert wab | 12:15 |
javaJake | Just took the right configuration to get it to work | 12:15 |
ubuntu | :) | 12:15 |
AZzKikR | javaJake: radeon is supported, i got a radeon X800 myself | 12:15 |
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DooMRunneR | does anyone knows a powerfull alternative to rythmbox, not so winamp like things as xmms or beep? | 12:15 |
javaJake | AZzKikR, my point exactly | 12:15 |
ubuntu | DooMRunneR: amarok | 12:15 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: how about 'Listen'? | 12:15 |
Intangir | DooMRunneR: i heard one called like amoroka or something.. i dont remember.. | 12:15 |
javaJake | amorak | 12:16 |
javaJake | Or something... | 12:16 |
javaJake | LOL | 12:16 |
AZzKikR | amaroK | 12:16 |
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Intangir | ya that sounds about right | 12:16 |
Dravas | I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that | 12:16 |
javaJake | :P | 12:16 |
jake1 | if my laptop has a DVD drive does that mean it can boot from DVD | 12:16 |
DooMRunneR | i know amarok, but works not good under gnome | 12:16 |
Intangir | its supposed to be powerful, and not winamp like | 12:16 |
Dravas | Its really annoyunh | 12:16 |
jake1 | or only CD | 12:16 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | ubuntu: the motorcitymadman runs over to his box of tools. Plz stand bye | 12:16 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: kmailcvt it is in synaptic type , apt-get install kmailcvt | 12:16 |
javaJake | jake1, depends on your BIOS | 12:16 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: then take a look at Listen | 12:16 |
ubuntu | MotorCityMadMan1: ok | 12:16 |
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mistraal | anyone know how to change the home directory for suexec? | 12:16 |
JoseStefan | jake1, usally both cd or dvd, but depends on bios | 12:16 |
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Intangir | Dravas: does that by default for me.. | 12:16 |
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Dravas | Well Its not for me | 12:17 |
Dravas | I have to click on teh edge of the window | 12:17 |
Jack_Sparrow | jake, not 100%... | 12:17 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, take one, thank you | 12:17 |
javaJake | To check that out, go INTO your BIOS (by pushing the right F1-12 key) and check the boot list | 12:17 |
Intangir | Dravas: your on gnome? | 12:17 |
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Dravas | Intangir yes | 12:17 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, is listen available in the repos? | 12:17 |
jake1 | javaJake: would you think a computer purchased like two days ago would do that, considering lots of software is on DVD nowadays | 12:17 |
Dravas | I am on gnome | 12:17 |
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Intangir | thats freaky. you musta accidently toggled something for it to do that | 12:18 |
Dravas | :\ | 12:18 |
javaJake | jake1, I'd say, yes, most likely | 12:18 |
Intangir | there should be a metacity, or gnome option somewhere to change it back | 12:18 |
javaJake | jake1, newer computers do it | 12:18 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: not by default | 12:18 |
Dravas | bbl | 12:18 |
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javaJake | jake1, as long as it IS new, and isn't refurbished, etc. | 12:18 |
Jack_Sparrow | jake1: A new computer should boot to DVD but it MUST be set to look at the DVD in the boot sequence... Usually get to bios/cmos with the delete key during the memory check | 12:18 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: but i believe the website provides a repository location, i'll look it up | 12:18 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, cant find anything about it in google | 12:19 |
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LEMONed_ | ok, I seem to of go the livecd to work but I'm still having trouble, ubuntu seems to start up fine and brings me to a red desktop, I hear a login tingle tangle tune and then gives me a red background with a mouse that I can move around.... nothing else I'm a linux noob and was wondering what I've done wrong? | 12:19 |
javaJake | Shows how much I know | 12:19 |
javaJake | :P | 12:19 |
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jake1 | yea i do know how to make it boot from CD | 12:19 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, cool thank you | 12:19 |
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javaJake | Well, I'm going to try some other IRC channels | 12:19 |
Solkaris | anyone know how to fix a problem with internet connection only partially working? | 12:19 |
javaJake | If anyone here is an expert with X or ATI, let me know | 12:19 |
javaJake | I'll be on under the name "javaJake" for the next 15 minutes | 12:19 |
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javaJake | LEAVE #ubuntu | 12:20 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: take a look at http://listengnome.free.fr/ it provides information, screenshots and a repository location for Dapper 6.06 | 12:20 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, got it http://listengnome.free.fr/, thanx | 12:20 |
javaJake | Rats | 12:20 |
DooMRunneR | :D | 12:20 |
AZzKikR | no problem :D | 12:20 |
JoseStefan | javaJake, try a reconfigure of xserver-xorg, and disable any modules you dont use | 12:20 |
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jordanau | i want to make a custon ubuntu distro taylored towards a specific business, where would i get started | 12:20 |
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cjones | jordanau what kind of biz ? | 12:20 |
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jake1 | now on another note........ i tried earlier to install Ubuntu on my AMD 64 Turion ML-32 Acer Aspire 5003WLMi notebook and i got the load screen where it told me to hit 'ENTER' for default installation (or something like that) i did, and then after that the installer only showed up on a small section of my monitor making it impossible to see what i was selecting and what not | 12:20 |
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ubuntu | later guys | 12:21 |
jake1 | it also does this on the Live CD | 12:21 |
ubuntu | tc | 12:21 |
jake1 | any ideas of what that could be | 12:21 |
jordanau | construction/architecture | 12:21 |
jake1 | i was considering trying to install it from the alternate installer on the website | 12:21 |
jordanau | cjones, ^^ | 12:21 |
JoseStefan | jake1, you could try that | 12:21 |
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cjones | jordanau that sounds like fun are you thinking adding some cad stuff? | 12:21 |
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jordanau | cjones, yeah cad, scheduling, spreadsheet, groupware, accounting etc | 12:22 |
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jordanau | cjones, interested? | 12:22 |
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cjones | theres already spreadsheet in ubuntu | 12:22 |
John[1] | What is the command to start the xserver in dapper? | 12:22 |
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AZzKikR | startx? | 12:23 |
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MotorCityMadMan1 | ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package kamilcvt | 12:23 |
Intangir | John[1] : what are you trying to do with it? | 12:23 |
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Intangir | theres different ways to start it | 12:23 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | kmail installed | 12:23 |
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jordanau | cjones, yes i know but i would eliminate games, extras, etc | 12:23 |
John[1] | start up the gnome desktop. | 12:23 |
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AZzKikR | isn't gdm used to start the gnome desktop? | 12:23 |
jordanau | gdm start or gdm restart | 12:24 |
DooMRunneR | AZzKikR, thank you again, thats the thing ive searched for :D | 12:24 |
Intangir | gdm starts it up with the login manager | 12:24 |
cjones | jordanau have you thought about just starting with debian | 12:24 |
BlueEagle | jake1: There is an option for VGA safe mode | 12:24 |
AZzKikR | DooMRunneR: no problem :D i am beginning to get interested in Listen myself atm :P | 12:24 |
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BlueEagle | jake1: hit F4 instead of Enter on the boot screen. | 12:24 |
jordanau | yes, but i like the hardware detection of ubuntu | 12:24 |
BlueEagle | jake1: or something like that. It's a menu at the bottom of the screen. | 12:25 |
Intangir | whats listen? | 12:25 |
AZzKikR | Intangir: a music player using GTK | 12:25 |
jordanau | cjones, ^ | 12:25 |
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John[1] | is the command start gdm? | 12:25 |
Intangir | is it really any better than others? like xmms? i still use xmms hehe | 12:25 |
AZzKikR | Intangir: comparable with amaroK | 12:25 |
nickerss | I just downloaded the desktop iso of ubuntu how do i get it to run without installing it? | 12:25 |
jordanau | John[1] , no gdm start | 12:25 |
AZzKikR | John[1] : gdm start | 12:25 |
Kragnerac | Hello, I am going to install Ubuntu 6.06 (got the Live CD running right now). I am trying to choose between the ext3, reiser4, and XFS filesystems. My partition size is 33973. I want to know which one would be the most efficient for my partition? | 12:25 |
Intangir | sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start | 12:25 |
amee2k | after login something keeps filling up my RAM and swap space, however the system monitor doesn't show anything anormal. how can i find out which process is going wild? | 12:25 |
cjones | jordanau well put | 12:25 |
Kragnerac | *33973 MB | 12:25 |
John[1] | I get command not found | 12:25 |
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Intangir | Kragnerac: ext3 is most common | 12:26 |
AZzKikR | John[1] : like Intangir said: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start | 12:26 |
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JoseStefan | John[1] : or restart instead | 12:26 |
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Intangir | John[1] : you might want to use stop first just to make sure its dead | 12:26 |
synic | amee2k: how do you know? | 12:26 |
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nickerss | can you really run ubuntu from the .iso without installing? | 12:27 |
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amee2k | because of the system monitor in my panel | 12:27 |
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synic | amee2k: what does it say? | 12:28 |
Intangir | nickerss: if you get the live CD, yes | 12:28 |
nickerss | i got the desktop cd for mac | 12:28 |
JoseStefan | nickerss, after burning it to a CD :P | 12:28 |
amee2k | user memory: 1.7G of 2G, used swap 850M of 3.8G | 12:28 |
nickerss | ohh ok | 12:28 |
nickerss | thanks | 12:28 |
amee2k | and counting... | 12:28 |
nickerss | just boot to it? | 12:28 |
amee2k | and that is definitely NOT normal, considering a normal RAM usage of <500M | 12:29 |
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amee2k | any ideas? | 12:29 |
JoseStefan | nickerss, yes | 12:30 |
xxpor | is software update screwing up compiz? | 12:30 |
amee2k | i'm trying to post a screenshot but that takes time atm | 12:30 |
synic | amee2k: you running 64bit? | 12:30 |
bbrazil | amee2k: agressive swappiness (tuneable), caching files (normal) | 12:30 |
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amee2k | yep, 64 bit, AMD64 | 12:30 |
synic | amee2k: sounds normal to me. | 12:30 |
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amee2k | NORMAL?! | 12:31 |
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amee2k | that it spontaneously uses 3 gigs when idle? | 12:31 |
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synic | amee2k: view the processes and sort by resident memory | 12:32 |
amee2k | well, now 4 gigs | 12:32 |
JoseStefan | amee2k, i think ubuntu takes up spare memory for caching | 12:32 |
amee2k | already tried, even with "all processes", it doesn't show something wrong | 12:32 |
JoseStefan | is there a compact way to show the info on "free" | 12:33 |
amee2k | JoseStefan: that's NOT caching. cache memory is shown separately | 12:33 |
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JoseStefan | i'm not running much and i am at: 774808 752812 21996 (total,used,free) | 12:33 |
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synic | amee2k: what does the top item in that list show for "resident memory" ? | 12:34 |
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amee2k | 39M | 12:34 |
amee2k | that's mozilla atm. trying to post the screenshot | 12:34 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | just what does this mean ? ~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 13665, errno = 0 | 12:34 |
amee2k | next one is nautilus with 28M | 12:34 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | i think it wood be good if i shorten my user name | 12:35 |
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Intangir | MotorCityMadMan1: thats bad | 12:35 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | what is ? | 12:35 |
Intangir | MotorCityMadMan1: what are you doing when you get that error? | 12:36 |
amee2k | http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmemgk7.png | 12:36 |
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itrebal | minor issue with my ubuntu installation... i just installed it, and its going through about to configure everything and the like and its on the very first part saying "preparing for installation" after it reboots | 12:36 |
JoseStefan | amee2k, try sorting top by mem% | 12:36 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | Intangir: working with a shell | 12:36 |
itrebal | it doesn't respond after a while so i go to tty2 and check on it with 'top' and its taking up 99% CPU and not doing anything | 12:36 |
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wikijeff | Does anyone know why there isn't an entry for my ALPS touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices ???? My touchpad isn't responding to anything. | 12:37 |
amee2k | how do i sort in top? | 12:37 |
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MotorCityMadMan1 | also this / X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 | 12:37 |
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JoseStefan | amee2k, press x, then b, then > | 12:38 |
FantasticFoo | is it safe to update to the newer version of X now? or is that update still the shitty one | 12:38 |
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rredd4 | yes | 12:38 |
jvai | wow, does adding more applets to the panel use more memory? | 12:38 |
jvai | wow.. | 12:38 |
JoseStefan | amee2k, by default that should end up sorting by mem, you could press h for help | 12:38 |
argument | FantasticFoo, that update was fine for me | 12:38 |
rredd4 | FantasticFoo do sudo apt-get update first | 12:38 |
amee2k | each keypress on that box takes almost a minute now | 12:38 |
Intangir | amee2k: i think something has gone terribly wrong | 12:39 |
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argument | FantasticFoo, yeh, you'll wanna have the rest of your system up to date anyhow | 12:39 |
JoseStefan | amee2k, you might want to sort by cpu too, something is eating up resources | 12:39 |
wikijeff | Anyone??? Can anyone even see this?? | 12:39 |
rredd4 | yes | 12:39 |
argument | wikijeff, yes | 12:39 |
Intangir | MotorCityMadMan1: i always get that when running qt apps, it doesnt seem to mean anything | 12:39 |
itrebal | anyone know what might be causing this strange behavior? i've restarted it a few times but its not rixing it | 12:39 |
amee2k | the lag is caused by excessive bus I/O | 12:39 |
argument | itrebal, hey you use ubuntu too eh? | 12:39 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action. | 12:39 |
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itrebal | argument: trying :/ | 12:39 |
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itrebal | :) | 12:40 |
argument | heheh trying? lol | 12:40 |
itrebal | yea - it was going great, supported my usb and sata drives with the stock kernel | 12:40 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | going to shorten name | 12:40 |
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x1977x | hi folks,, im new,,. can anyone help me with this: i have a sata HD which is where ubuntu is installed (alone--no windows); i also have ntfs HD (not sata,, whats that, IDE?) with all my stuff on it (just storage, no OS). when i boot my computer, it fails, unless i press f12 and tell it to boot from the correct HD.. how do i alter the BIOS to have it boot that HD automatically? | 12:40 |
itrebal | and then BAM - i restart after the initial installation and it doesn't work | 12:40 |
itrebal | x1977x: i'd recommend trying #hardware | 12:41 |
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gb453 | What is the best way to get WPA working in 6.06? | 12:41 |
lupine | x1977x: bios should have an option to let you select the default boot device | 12:41 |
Intangir | x1977x: just browse around your bios, thers bound to be an option for it | 12:41 |
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teimu | is it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper? | 12:41 |
itrebal | argument: its rather irritating :/ | 12:41 |
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x1977x | cool, ty :) | 12:41 |
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god_ | hey guys, can anyone help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242132 ? | 12:41 |
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amee2k | it is snhelper - 1.5g VIRT, 73 %MEM | 12:42 |
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lhds | hello there. i want to ask about that program that lets you turn on and off the boot modules... what was its name? like hp printing, smb, logging etc | 12:43 |
amee2k | what is snhelper and how can i get rid of it? | 12:43 |
JoseStefan | amee2k, you can kill it, but i would make sure what it is first | 12:43 |
mitch | lhds: bum? | 12:43 |
amee2k | never heard of it | 12:43 |
itrebal | have you thought about snhelper's feelings? | 12:43 |
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beowuff | god_ do "ps-ef | grep mysqld". Does it list mysqld? | 12:43 |
JoseStefan | itrebal, he will respawn on someone elses computer :D | 12:43 |
tomasz27 | what do I need to run Dreamweaver in Ubuntu? | 12:43 |
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itrebal | tomasz27: practice... LOTS of practice | 12:44 |
virogenesis | tomasz27, try aptana | 12:44 |
god_ | god 15012 10750 0 23:44 pts/0 00:00:00 grep mysqld | 12:44 |
bean-oh | tomasz27, probably wine and free time | 12:44 |
synic | tomasz27: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=dreamweavermx | 12:44 |
teimu | is it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper? | 12:44 |
jvai | lol.. Screem's a bettr fit.. & it's in repos | 12:44 |
lhds | yes its bum | 12:44 |
lhds | thanx for the info | 12:44 |
amee2k | itrebal: yes | 12:44 |
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tomasz27 | thank you all | 12:44 |
virogenesis | tomasz27, do you use code view or what? | 12:44 |
amee2k | no man page, no which output | 12:45 |
itrebal | alright this is seriously bugging me | 12:45 |
beowuff | god_ looks like mysql is not running. Check mysql's log. Probably under /var/log/mysql. I don't know as I don't run mysql. Also, try asking on mysql forum/irc. | 12:45 |
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tomasz27 | design and code views | 12:45 |
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amee2k | hm... seems part of vmware. i'll go and ask there | 12:46 |
virogenesis | ahh alright tomasz27 take a look at http://www.aptana.com | 12:46 |
itrebal | argument: you wouldn't have any idea on how to get this to work, would you? | 12:46 |
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god_ | beowuff the mysql logs are no help | 12:46 |
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tomasz27 | ok | 12:46 |
tomasz27 | thanks | 12:46 |
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skipp_OSX | hello, need help setting up Ubuntu as an nis client | 12:47 |
teimu | dashriKe, dual boot. wine is okay for older games, with some exceptions, but with win, programs run the way they are supposed to. no patching problems, official drivers for vid and aud | 12:47 |
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teimu | well, now i will rephrase. how should i go about making breezy into dapper? | 12:48 |
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beowuff | god_ for some reason mysqld is not running. If it was, it should have shown up with the ps-ef | grep mysqld. If it trys to start, it should write to the log file why. You can try /etc/init.d/mysqld start. You will probably have to run it as root. | 12:48 |
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dashriKe | I wonder if they well release a linux version of it? | 12:48 |
skipp_OSX | I have a FreeBSD box setup as an nis server and I have Ubuntu 6.06 setup as a client but for some reason I can't seem to login with any nis users | 12:48 |
synic | dashriKe: I wouldn't doubt it. | 12:48 |
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synic | dashriKe: they've been pretty good about supporting linux | 12:48 |
teimu | dashriKe, well, luckily, thats an id game. they usually port thier stuff for us | 12:48 |
god_ | i've tried that, the result is show in that link i posted | 12:48 |
teimu | isnt their some ubuntu_teacher or lessons or school channel? | 12:49 |
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estaloca | i'm trying to get 3d acceleration working for my ati card on dapper on AMD 64. When i type in fglrxinfo I get "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!". I followed the guides, no success. Anyone know what I can do? | 12:50 |
paroneayea | why on earth did the ubuntu developers decide to have the whole gnome desktop depend on gamin????? | 12:50 |
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dashriKe | I hope they do | 12:50 |
dashriKe | that is a game I plan on actually buying | 12:50 |
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beowuff | god_ I hate to say it, but this looks like a problem with mysql, and would probably be better delt with by mysql users. Have you tried asking in #mysql? | 12:51 |
Flamekebab | arse barbeque, so THAT'S why cipherfunk isn't working any more.. | 12:51 |
x1977x | itrebal: i checked #hardware and got some really good help. thanks for the tip! | 12:51 |
faux | paroneayea, so that thet can keep track of changes in the filesystem? | 12:51 |
Sapaki | hi any help in configuring my wireless adaptor for ubuntu 5.10 | 12:51 |
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paroneayea | faux: I know, but it's a terrible decision. Not everyone wants it. | 12:52 |
jordanau | if i want to install another linux distro all i have to do is resize my present partition right? | 12:52 |
god_ | thanks beowuff, i'll ask there | 12:52 |
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faux | paroneayea, why? I find it pretty much essential | 12:52 |
tchmnkyz | hey all, i followed the restricted formats page and still dont have a working system to play xvid files what else can i do? | 12:52 |
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paroneayea | there's no reason it should be a dependency... it should be an option. | 12:52 |
cjones_ | .quit | 12:52 |
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estaloca | have anyone successfully installed xgl/compiz? | 12:52 |
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gnomefreak | estaloca: try #ubuntu-xgl | 12:53 |
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paroneayea | faux: it both slows things down, and in the project I am working on I have a script which unmounts the device on which the user's home directory resides after they log out... now such a thing can't be done for several minutes after the user logs out due to gamin staring at the home directory for a while | 12:54 |
estaloca | gnomefreak: thanks | 12:54 |
gnomefreak | estaloca: yw | 12:54 |
paroneayea | it also generally slows down the system, so I can't see any reason why it should be essential... it shoudl be optional. | 12:54 |
__root___ | whats a good text based programe thaTS like xmms that you can run from the command prompt | 12:54 |
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faux | paroneayea, I thought most locking issues were resolved | 12:55 |
tchmnkyz | xmms can be ran from the cmd | 12:55 |
synic | __root___: mp3blaster | 12:55 |
paroneayea | faux: hm. Maybe I should update the system. How long ago were these to have been solved? | 12:55 |
__root___ | synic i get "unabel to open display" | 12:55 |
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bubu1uk | __root__: i recommend mp3blaster too. is very nice and good | 12:55 |
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__root___ | bubu1uk can i apt-get install it ?\ | 12:56 |
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John[1] | Looks like I'm stuck again at 15% install. | 12:56 |
John[1] | On the desktop install that is. | 12:56 |
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bubu1uk | __root__: dunno, search for it. i had it on gentoo box | 12:56 |
paroneayea | doesn't look like there's any update in the next upgrade | 12:56 |
faux | paroneayea, at the time when fam was replaced by gamin, which was pretty long ago | 12:57 |
__root___ | ok | 12:57 |
__root___ | thanks | 12:57 |
tchmnkyz | anyone with the restricted file formats | 12:57 |
__root___ | anybody in hera know much about luynks | 12:57 |
__root___ | links | 12:57 |
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paroneayea | at any rate, I still think this should be optional | 12:57 |
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Tonren | Gah... this is the second time my install has hung, on two different parts | 12:58 |
Tonren | Once while copying files, and now while "setting upt eh clock" | 12:58 |
Tonren | I guess I'll just wait longer | 12:58 |
faux | paroneayea, so file a bug about it :) | 12:58 |
paroneayea | faux: fair enough | 12:58 |
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__root___ | every time i start links to surf the web i it hangs up at a blinking curser ? | 12:59 |
John[1] | well i'm at 33% | 12:59 |
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John[1] | Wow, made it all the way to 45% now. This is the 3rd try to install. | 01:00 |
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riddlebox | hello, if I wanted to upgrade to edgy eft, would I just replace dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy? | 01:02 |
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bean-oh | anyone familiar with setting up serial devices? | 01:02 |
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Tonren | Hey guys, what does it mean if my live CD GUI installer hangs? | 01:02 |
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riddlebox | bean-oh, well I have been working on a serial remote, I may be able to help | 01:02 |
Tonren | John[1] : is yours hanging too? | 01:02 |
The_Kid123 | hey yall, just got ubuntu installed on my old computer | 01:03 |
The_Kid123 | just don't have it on the 'net | 01:03 |
John[1] | My installer has hung about 3 times, its working now. | 01:03 |
bean-oh | riddlebox, i have a problem, my serial port (ttyS0) wasn't being detected properly. it was using an "undefined" UART. I poked around a bit, and found the place to hard-code it to 16550A (which it is), and it still won't work with minicom. | 01:03 |
The_Kid123 | hey yall, got a problem w/ drivers | 01:04 |
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cjones | how do you take a screen shot when your useing someing like lynx or bitchx ? | 01:04 |
riddlebox | bean-oh, you may want to use an app called setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart ..... | 01:04 |
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bean-oh | cjones, i believe bitchx does logging, and i think you can save pages with lynx | 01:05 |
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bean-oh | riddlebox, yes, tried that too. on boot it doesn't save it, so i set it up in another place. either way, setserial doesn't really help | 01:05 |
monteiro | anyone knows a away to disable the touchpad ? | 01:06 |
cjones | bean-oh | 01:06 |
cjones | bean-oh thanks | 01:06 |
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riddlebox | bean-oh, sorry then, thats what I had to do to get my lirc drivers to see my irblaster | 01:06 |
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bean-oh | riddlebox, most i've gotten it to do is flood login prompts from the serial console until the device on the other end gets annoyed at the flood and kills the the connection | 01:07 |
lhds | how to make a deb file out of a source file? | 01:07 |
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wikijeff | Anyone know why there isn't an entry for my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices?? My touchpad isn't working now. | 01:07 |
riddlebox | bean-oh, sounds like fun :p | 01:07 |
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bean-oh | riddlebox, yeah, not much! haha it works 100% fine on my workstation. just doesn't like the serial port on my laptop. | 01:08 |
mischko | How do I configure my wireless network card on Ubuntu Server? | 01:08 |
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mischko | I'm using WPA-PSK and TKIP. | 01:08 |
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tehsu | I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes at 57% | 01:09 |
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itrebal | alright i just reinstalled it all and its still failing | 01:09 |
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itrebal | after i install everything, reboot, and it comes up to finish the installation it stops responding | 01:09 |
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tehsu | Anyone know why the install freezes? | 01:10 |
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tehsu | boots up fine into live cd | 01:10 |
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lhds | after tar xzvf the file i need to install it . i downloaded checkinstall and in ,/configure but it returns no such file or dir whats wrong? | 01:10 |
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npodges | is there a "configure" file, ihds? | 01:11 |
sean | anyone know the cd burner program to burn an iso image? | 01:11 |
lhds | there is a single file | 01:11 |
rambo3 | sean k3b | 01:11 |
npodges | sean, gnomebaker too | 01:11 |
carthik | sean, in nautilus, right click on the iso and choose burn | 01:11 |
npodges | or nautilus | 01:11 |
tuxtux | notte a tutti | 01:12 |
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wweasel | I would use natilus if I just wanted to burn an iso, as carthik said. | 01:12 |
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pushpop | Any Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ? | 01:13 |
rambo3 | pushpop, yes | 01:13 |
sean | k | 01:13 |
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sean | thanks | 01:13 |
pushpop | cool, do you use a tuner card or firewire? | 01:13 |
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Sitouh | Would anyone be willing to help a relative Linux novice set up wpa-supplicant? | 01:13 |
Anubuntu | Hello, I need some help, I booted up my system and grub gave me error 17, what does this mean and how does one fix it? | 01:14 |
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rambo3 | ! wifi > Sitouh | 01:14 |
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wweasel | Sitouh: wpa_supplicant should be already setup in Dapper. | 01:15 |
rambo3 | Anubuntu, your partition where boot/grub/ is too far for bios to read | 01:15 |
misieq | is there a low-level disk checking software? that won't only check partitions but also mbr/whole disk because there seems to be problem with my hdd that fsck can't handle with | 01:15 |
mischko | ! wifi > mischko | 01:15 |
Sitouh | Dapper? | 01:15 |
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wweasel | Sitouh: Sorry. In the latest version of Ubuntu. | 01:15 |
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wweasel | Sitouh: It is preinstalled. | 01:15 |
Anubuntu | rambo3: well can you give me a solution, since my windows disk is at the beginning of the drive? | 01:15 |
tnzr | Sitouh: what card | 01:15 |
Sitouh | tnzr: Airlink 101 PCMCIA | 01:16 |
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tnzr | does the card show up in iwconfig? | 01:16 |
rambo3 | Anubuntu, boot from floppy or move ubuntu partition or what ever partition you can put grub on closer to start of disk | 01:16 |
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wweasel | Sitouh: Does it work fine without WPA? | 01:16 |
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Anubuntu | rambo3: is there any way to do this without damaging the windows partition? | 01:17 |
Sitouh | tnzr: Yes, it does | 01:17 |
Anubuntu | rambo3: since its at the beginning of the drive? | 01:17 |
pushpop | rambo3: do you use firewire for mythtv or a tuner card? | 01:17 |
Sitouh | wweasel: I don't know - I don't have a non-WPA network handy to connect to. | 01:18 |
rambo3 | pushpop, tuner card | 01:18 |
lhds | is there a utility for applying Blackbox themes to applications ? | 01:18 |
wweasel | Sitouh: Are you able to temporarily turn down the security on your router? | 01:18 |
pushpop | rambo3: you know anything about configuring it with usb? | 01:18 |
pushpop | rambo3: I mean firewire | 01:18 |
rambo3 | no | 01:18 |
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rambo3 | ask in #mythtv-users or search ubuntu forums | 01:19 |
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misieq | ! vdr > misieq | 01:19 |
justin_ | Where can I find the "add/remove" list in Ubuntu - for programs not in Synaptic? | 01:20 |
John[1] | I just got a eroor that said grub failed to load or install and then a error that said installer failed. | 01:20 |
rambo3 | Anubuntu, i dont realy know much about resizing . but its doable | 01:20 |
wweasel | justin_: Add/remove won't let you isntall programs that aren't in synaptic | 01:21 |
John[1] | What next to fix or is it hosed? | 01:21 |
npodges | can someone give me a link on how to theme the screen before gdm launches? | 01:21 |
npodges | or explain it | 01:21 |
Sitouh | wweasel: Hold on - just got the router password | 01:21 |
itrebal | woo! i did a non "expert" install and it works... ijust have to go through and configure things | 01:21 |
wweasel | Sitouh: np. I am just wondering if your problem is with WPA, or the network card itself. | 01:21 |
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justin_ | wweasel: Well what I am wondering is - do I have to mentally keep track of all the DEBS I install? - Like the complete file name etc, when I want to un-install them? | 01:22 |
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wweasel | justin_: Nope. You can remove some things by unticking them in Add/Remove. Synaptic is the most powerful tool though | 01:22 |
bbrazil | justin_: if you run aptitude, it'll give you a list of manually installed and obselete debs | 01:22 |
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wweasel | justin_: You can search through your installed debs and right click and remove any of them you want. | 01:23 |
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Sitouh | wweasel: It works fine when I boot in Windows | 01:23 |
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gb453 | How can i configure wpa_supplicant to work with a prism 2.5 wavelan (orinoco driver)? | 01:24 |
justin_ | wweasel: Yes I know how Synaptic works, I am talking about Debs I manually installed that were not in synaptic, bbrazil - Thnks, i'll give it a shot | 01:24 |
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pushpop | is "make" a valid command in ubuntu? | 01:24 |
wweasel | justin_: Synaptic gives them a category all to themselves. Hold on, I'll pull it up | 01:24 |
bbrazil | justin_: also, you only need to keep track of the package name, maybe also the version | 01:24 |
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bbrazil | pushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential | 01:24 |
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wweasel | justin_: Open up Synaptic, on the sidebar on the left see Installed (local or obsolete). | 01:25 |
wweasel | justin_: this will have all of your locally installed debs | 01:25 |
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tehsu | I'm using ubuntu live, and if I try to install, it freezes at 57% | 01:25 |
tehsu | Does anyone know why it would freeze? | 01:26 |
justin_ | wweasel: I do not seem to have this menu in Synaptic | 01:26 |
itrebal | tehsu: what kind of install? | 01:26 |
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Tonren | pushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential | 01:26 |
tehsu | 6.06.1 | 01:26 |
beowuff | tehsu, have you tried another disk? Maybe it's a bad burn... | 01:26 |
wweasel | Sitouh: Yep. Wireless can be a supreme pain in Linux. But there are two possible problems here if you can't connect to your WPA network. It's possible WPA isn't configured, but I think it may be more likely that the network card isn't properly configured. That's why we should try connecting to something WEP or unencrypted. | 01:26 |
tehsu | installing through ubuntu | 01:26 |
npodges | sudo aptitude install make | 01:26 |
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wweasel | justin_: Go to status (below the sidebar). | 01:27 |
prat | does anyone know if there is a way to extract/find the .config kernel config info for stock ubuntu kernels? | 01:27 |
tehsu | beowuff: i have not, ill try that | 01:27 |
tehsu | could it be anything else | 01:27 |
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pushpop | Tonren: what does that do. | 01:27 |
rambo3 | prat you mean like one in /boot/ | 01:27 |
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bbrazil | pushpop: should be in /boot | 01:27 |
beowuff | tehsu, I can't remember from when I installed, but you may be able to hit CTL F4 to see a console with error messages. | 01:27 |
tehsu | ok | 01:28 |
npodges | does anyone here use kiba-dock? | 01:28 |
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justin_ | wweasel: Not there, however I have it in console aptitude :) | 01:28 |
wweasel | justin_: alright | 01:28 |
tehsu | what happens is, it hits 57% the cd and the computer busy light is running and 2 or 3 minutes later it shuts off | 01:28 |
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justin_ | And since I spend most of my time in console, it works out :P thnks | 01:28 |
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neuroe | hello | 01:28 |
beowuff | tehsu, did you burn the cd yourself? | 01:29 |
bbrazil | tehsu: bad hdd? Can you do a crtl-alt-f1 ? | 01:29 |
prat | rambo3, sweet! thanks thats exactly what i was looking for | 01:29 |
neuroe | i think i broke something | 01:29 |
tehsu | yes i burn't it myself | 01:29 |
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neuroe | can someone help me? | 01:30 |
beowuff | tehsu, I have had to reburn cd's at slower speeds to get older hardware to read them. If you do reburn, try setting the burn speed at 8. | 01:31 |
carthik | !ask | 01:31 |
ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 01:31 |
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woodgrain | neuroe, what's up? | 01:31 |
neuroe | i tried to move a folder and now my start up themes stoped working, everything looks like it did before but the theme chooser is coming up blank | 01:31 |
beowuff | tehsu, however, since it booted, it's reading the cd fine. Could be that it messed up the burn on one package. Does it always stop in the same spot? | 01:31 |
npodges | neuroe what theme? | 01:32 |
npodges | folder** | 01:32 |
woodgrain | neuroe, which folder? | 01:32 |
neuroe | the startup themes | 01:32 |
neuroe | usr/share/gdm/themes | 01:32 |
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wweasel | beowuff, tehsu: Have you tried checking the integrity of the CD? | 01:32 |
woodgrain | neuroe, can't you just put it back? | 01:32 |
neuroe | nothing moved | 01:32 |
rambo3 | did you move /usr/share/themes | 01:33 |
neuroe | i used the command sudo mv -t EarthLights /usr/share/gdm/themes | 01:33 |
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npodges | you should install the theme using the gui | 01:33 |
npodges | in system>admin>login window | 01:33 |
neuroe | yea i noticed that but it's too late | 01:33 |
MotorCityMadMan1 | test | 01:34 |
neuroe | the folders are all still there i don't understand what happened | 01:34 |
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neuroe | both the folder i tried the move and the folders that were in the directory i tried to move them too | 01:35 |
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npodges | are you sure thats what broke it then, neuroe? | 01:35 |
mack | hey | 01:35 |
neuroe | the theme chooser has no themes to choose | 01:36 |
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neuroe | i'm afraid if i reboot that there will be no theme at the login screen and i won't be able to log in | 01:36 |
mack | does the "network tools" window in ubuntu support using wpa encryption? it asks for a wep code even though my wireless is set up for wpa | 01:37 |
sishgupta | i dont think so mack | 01:37 |
sishgupta | use network manager | 01:37 |
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mack | i see "networking" and "network tools". i'm in "networking" right now | 01:38 |
mack | i dont want to leave my wireless in my house on wep. im setting up a wireless webserver | 01:38 |
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d0nk3y | sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv : It says it could not be satisfied, is there something wrong with that command? | 01:39 |
neuroe | npodges, do you know what that command did? | 01:39 |
exobuzz | has anyone else come across this bug upgrading dapper to edgy (I wanted to see how edgy was coming along). http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:I8SLIZX_UmEJ:https://launchpad.net/bugs/57121 | 01:39 |
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djmassive | hi, can someone please help me with amaroK? | 01:39 |
bruenig | !anyone | 01:40 |
ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 01:40 |
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exobuzz | ok i used anyone. but i included the question. :-) | 01:40 |
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bruenig | I mean djmassive | 01:40 |
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exobuzz | aah | 01:41 |
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bruenig | he used someone | 01:41 |
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bruenig | but the idea is the same | 01:41 |
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neuroe | !ask me | 01:41 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ask me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:41 |
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neuroe | !stuff | 01:41 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:41 |
djmassive | amaroK help, anyone? | 01:41 |
bruenig | djmassive, ask your question | 01:42 |
djmassive | ok... | 01:42 |
neuroe | quickly | 01:42 |
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neuroe | !amaroK | 01:42 |
djmassive | How come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'... | 01:42 |
gunnar | !xgl | 01:43 |
ubotu | Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems | 01:43 |
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neuroe | help plz fix my boo boo | 01:43 |
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taychouri-a | wassup everyone | 01:43 |
exobuzz | grr. launchpad is down.. . | 01:43 |
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eugman | What would be the minimum requirments for a desktopless desktop? | 01:44 |
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exobuzz | if i reboot i will never get back to X.. what with being half way installed with edgy :/ | 01:44 |
neuroe | eugman a pentium | 01:44 |
taychouri-a | anyone here know how to take my songs from my ipod and put them onto my ubunut | 01:44 |
eugman | Cool | 01:44 |
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djmassive | How come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'... | 01:44 |
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Miek | eugman: mine runs on a 333MHz AMD K6 | 01:44 |
exobuzz | djmassive: maybe you dont have the required plugin and it cant play the song | 01:44 |
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djmassive | i just installed a bunch of plugins.... what ones do i need? | 01:45 |
exobuzz | djmassive: check which engine you are using and if it has mp3 support (or whatever the song is your playing) | 01:45 |
taychouri-a | MP3 | 01:45 |
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taychouri-a | lol | 01:45 |
eugman | Also, I'm curious. Is there any list of equivalent programs like irssi and mutt if I wanted to do that? | 01:45 |
exobuzz | you need whatever plugin handles the format you are playing | 01:45 |
bruno | oi | 01:45 |
neuroe | hrm mp3 maybe? | 01:45 |
djmassive | i just need an mp3 plugin | 01:45 |
taychouri-a | anyone here know how to sync my ipod to my linux | 01:45 |
neuroe | yes mp3 | 01:45 |
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itrebal | would there be any serious issues concering installing linux-image-k7-smp with a K8 board? | 01:46 |
trojix | eugman, search a repository or Google for "CLI *prgram*" or whatever. | 01:46 |
cafuego | itrebal: no | 01:46 |
hth | hi, this is my first try installing ubuntu with soft raid on an array0, i tried to follow the wiki page but didnt work... received kernel error during installation... id like to know how may i do it or have a link to a step by step detailled step to set it up succesfully | 01:46 |
eugman | taychouri-a, gtkpod works for me. A search in the forums should have more help. | 01:46 |
neuroe | taychorui-a if you get the plugin you can play the songs from the ipod threw your cpu | 01:47 |
neuroe | just plug in the ipod | 01:47 |
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itrebal | cafuego: alrighty | 01:47 |
exobuzz | hth. there is a good step by step on the gentoo wiki which i used to help me setup raid | 01:47 |
eugman | Oh, I thought he meant the other way. | 01:47 |
exobuzz | ok its gentoo, but the information is mostly valid for ubuntu | 01:47 |
neuroe | i always come in here looking for help but end up helping the noober noobs | 01:47 |
djmassive | i'm using dapper drake, if that helps... what do i need to get so i can get amaroK to play my mp3s? | 01:47 |
jake1 | ok...... i have been trying all day to get Ubuntu installed, but some reason it isn't working right | 01:47 |
jake1 | http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg | 01:47 |
bruenig | !mp3 | 01:47 |
ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 01:47 |
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taychouri-a | so theres no way to put them on the computer? | 01:48 |
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cafuego | taychouri-a: 'gtkpod' will do it happily. | 01:48 |
hth | exobuzz ill take it u have the link.. im not a well experienced linux users i have a copy of ubuntu alternate install right now | 01:48 |
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neuroe | yaychouri-a, yes there is | 01:48 |
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taychouri-a | oh ok | 01:48 |
taychouri-a | so | 01:48 |
jake1 | the image of the installation process isn't completely visable | 01:48 |
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neuroe | if you plug it in you should be able to just copy them | 01:48 |
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jake1 | can someone look at the picture and tell me what they think | 01:48 |
taychouri-a | kk well | 01:48 |
bruenig | jake1, yeah it looks like the screen resolution is so off that you can't view all of the text | 01:48 |
exobuzz | hth: i dont have a link handy but google probably knows where it is. first you have to find the gentoo wiki and then search for "raid howto" :) | 01:48 |
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taychouri-a | cuz i am goin back to linux | 01:48 |
taychouri-a | and i dun wanna lose my 2000 songs | 01:49 |
taychouri-a | lol | 01:49 |
jake1 | bruenig: what can i do about that??? | 01:49 |
bruenig | don't know | 01:49 |
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cafuego | taychouri-a: open gtkpod, right click the song (or a selection of songs) and click 'Export' | 01:49 |
taychouri-a | kk | 01:49 |
taychouri-a | thanks cafuego | 01:49 |
taychouri-a | :) | 01:49 |
jake1 | there has got to be a way to get this installed | 01:49 |
neuroe | taychouri-a, do you know how to use synaptic? | 01:49 |
bruenig | not even sure that is the problem but looking at it makes me think that might be the problem | 01:49 |
SitouhTest | wweasel: Got security turned off, it doesn't seem to be letting me connect | 01:49 |
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waspius | hi..i just found out what karamba does and how nice it is...if i use a simple desktop such as fluxbox will i be able to use karamba without using allot of resources as i would if i used it in kde? | 01:49 |
mack | #1 sign youre getting used to linux: you try to highlight and middle-click to copy/paste... | 01:49 |
taychouri-a | remind me what that is neuroe, i havent used linux in a hwile | 01:49 |
exobuzz | oh.. launchpad isnt down. my machine is being borked.. that will teach me to try and test edgy out... | 01:50 |
jake1 | does anyone else know??? | 01:50 |
neuroe | synaptic package manager | 01:50 |
mack | anyway... http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/ should i trust that on how to make my computer accept wpa? | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | yeahhh | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | that think | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | thing | 01:50 |
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taychouri-a | with | 01:50 |
jale2ice | taychouri-a, create a vfat partition for the songs and then mount it when you get linux up and running | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | all the installation | 01:50 |
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tehsu | i forgot who was helping me, i made a new cd.. i burnt it at 4x instead of 44x and testing the install now | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | jale2ice, im not that god with computers, lol. i wish i would know how to do that | 01:50 |
taychouri-a | good* | 01:50 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, copy them all to disk | 01:51 |
taychouri-a | i cant! | 01:51 |
taychouri-a | its | 01:51 |
bruenig | get 15 dvds or something | 01:51 |
exobuzz | hmm or maybe not. can someone else tell me if launchpad.net is working ? | 01:51 |
taychouri-a | i dun have a dvd drive :) | 01:51 |
exobuzz | not sure if I have some weird networking problem. i can ping it. but no http | 01:51 |
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jale2ice | taychouri-a, get a partition manager (partition magic) or even a linux liveCD and create a vfat partition with the free space you got... move all the songs into the partition then load the linux distro of your choice | 01:51 |
taychouri-a | launch pad is wokrin | 01:51 |
trojix | Ditto. | 01:51 |
exobuzz | oh dear.. | 01:51 |
kditty | how do you know if you have gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x? | 01:52 |
neuroe | well use that to install GTKPod | 01:52 |
jake1 | well hopefully someone can help me | 01:52 |
exobuzz | weird. i can get to google on http but not launchpad! | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | sigh jale | 01:52 |
jale2ice | taychouri-a, when you do all that and have your linux distro loaded and configured, mount -t vfat /dev/xdax /mnt/share or something of the sort | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | lol | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | so confusing | 01:52 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, get the ubuntu live cd. Boot into and come in here. I can guide you through getting your music on a vfat partition and keeping them safe while the other partition gets formated for ubuntu | 01:52 |
hth | i saw that gentoo wiki but its complicated for nothing... i might just need to know how to partition my 2 hd... then create dmraid... but i dont know how to make the partitions... thats my problem i know how to make regular ones.. but not for an array0 raid.. pissing me off since it sounds easyt with the alternate cd | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | kk bruenig | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | one sec | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | cuz | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | i used shipit | 01:52 |
jale2ice | get a gentoo liveCD | 01:52 |
jale2ice | :) | 01:52 |
bruenig | that is fine | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | and i havend tried it | 01:52 |
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exobuzz | aha. https is broken.. | 01:52 |
taychouri-a | so | 01:53 |
exobuzz | humph.. | 01:53 |
taychouri-a | lemme get on it | 01:53 |
taychouri-a | and i come back ok | 01:53 |
taychouri-a | :) | 01:53 |
taychouri-a | thanks brue | 01:53 |
hth | jale2ice??? | 01:53 |
cafuego | kditty: You have gtk 2.x | 01:53 |
trojix | E17 in repository? | 01:53 |
zirpu | is there an /etc/apt/sources.list tweak that can be used to dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 ? | 01:53 |
jale2ice | hth, i'm a gentoo user :/ | 01:53 |
Harksaw | got a little trouble... I just installed ubuntu on my D945GPM motherboard, and the onboard sound card is acting strangely. The PCM control on the Volume Control does nothing, only the Front control. The sound card works but the volume is almost inaudible on a large stereo. Ideas? | 01:53 |
SitouhTest | Could someone help me get a wireless card running? | 01:53 |
hth | im not trying to set it up on gentoo but on ubuntu dapper | 01:53 |
kditty | ok, thanks | 01:53 |
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jale2ice | hth, i was kidding... glad you caught it minutes later | 01:54 |
bruenig | zirpu, 6.06.1 is 6.06 with all of the accumunlated updates over the past few months | 01:54 |
bruenig | so that if you do install now you don't have 190+ updates to install | 01:54 |
zirpu | ah. ok. thanks. | 01:54 |
jake1 | does anyone else have any ideas to why my screen looks like this, and what can i do to fix it | 01:54 |
cafuego | hth: If you don't already use the software raid in windows, simply set the controller to standard ide/sata mode, then use 'md' raid. | 01:54 |
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hth | jale2ice i not feeling like laughing much but feeling to make it work asap\ | 01:54 |
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jale2ice | hth, yeah... | 01:55 |
bruenig | !patience | 01:55 |
ubotu | The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 01:55 |
trojix | Does anyone know if E17 is in the repository? | 01:55 |
bruenig | !attitude > bruenig | 01:55 |
d0nk3y | I need to run the command "qmake" it says command not found? is there some way to add the command? | 01:55 |
jale2ice | nice find bruenig :) | 01:55 |
hth | cafuego ubuntu isnt installed yet... i was trying to set it up via alternate install disc | 01:55 |
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tehsu | d0nk3y: run make | 01:56 |
bruenig | acse e17 | 01:56 |
hth | the problem im having is that i dont know how 2 partition my 2 hd to successfully make a array0 | 01:56 |
d0nk3y | tehsu: http://pastebin.ca/146932 | 01:56 |
hth | that might be why it doesnt work | 01:56 |
d0nk3y | tehsu: I need to allow it to run qmake | 01:56 |
bruenig | trojix, what is e17 | 01:57 |
bruenig | ? | 01:57 |
Urban | Can anyone help me. When I try to install Ubuntu, it goes all the way through but then my screen go blank and I get a message saying "Out of frequency range" Is this problem specific to Ubuntu or should I google it? | 01:57 |
trojix | bruenig, Enlightenment 17, the window manager. | 01:57 |
tehsu | ive never heard of a qmake | 01:57 |
bruenig | !info enlightenment | 01:57 |
ubotu | enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB | 01:57 |
bruenig | it is in universe trojix, do you have universe enabled? | 01:57 |
tehsu | !info xchat | 01:58 |
ubotu | xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB | 01:58 |
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trojix | I'm actually sitting on a LiveCD right now, was just curious. | 01:58 |
bruenig | oh, well then yes | 01:58 |
trojix | Thanks. | 01:58 |
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tehsu | finally it passed 57% | 01:58 |
tehsu | yessssssss! | 01:58 |
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jordanau | can i safely resize my / partition? | 02:00 |
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hth | well | 02:00 |
Sitouh | wweasel: Yes, my wireless card works when I turn off WPA security | 02:00 |
jale2ice | jordanau, yes | 02:00 |
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beowuff | tehsu, so, it looks like either a corrupt package on the first burn, or just burned too fast for the other cdrom to read... | 02:00 |
tehsu | yup | 02:00 |
tehsu | i burnt this one at 4x | 02:01 |
tehsu | otherone was at max | 02:01 |
jordanau | jale2ice, just gun g or qparted from a live cd and reduct the size? | 02:01 |
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jordanau | reduce * | 02:01 |
tehsu | thanx for your help | 02:01 |
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tehsu | i would've never thought of a bad burn | 02:01 |
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jale2ice | jordanau, qparted works nice... | 02:01 |
jordanau | jale2ice, and nothing special to do, all of my present data is stored at the beginning of the partition? | 02:02 |
makro | | 02:02 |
makro | oops | 02:02 |
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jale2ice | jordanau, i used parted | 02:03 |
jale2ice | and it didn't care where the info was | 02:03 |
jordanau | great thanks | 02:03 |
beowuff | tehsu, is this an older computer your installing on? | 02:03 |
tehsu | nope | 02:03 |
tehsu | P-M 1.84 Gig Ram 60GB HDD | 02:03 |
jale2ice | jordanau, i used tools like resize_reiserfs and fdisk | 02:03 |
jale2ice | jordanau, i think it's the best way and it works | 02:04 |
tehsu | ok its done | 02:04 |
tehsu | brb | 02:04 |
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jordanau | thank you very much | 02:05 |
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fyyrest0rm | anyone here have experience with world of warcraft under wine? | 02:06 |
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Harksaw | what does it mean if someone said they fixed a problem like mine by doing this: ""I used the old kext but with the rev2 plist" | 02:07 |
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madman- | how do i get my programs ( like kmail ) to show in the app menu ? | 02:09 |
bruenig | madman, you mean the notification area or tray? | 02:09 |
bruenig | or do you mean the applications menus that has the internet games and graphics submenus among others | 02:09 |
madman- | bruenig: the application drop down menu | 02:10 |
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w30 | bruenig, go to the applications menu and pick alacarte menu editor and add it. | 02:10 |
pushpop | where is source.list located? | 02:10 |
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taychouri-a | k im on linux | 02:10 |
MatthewV | pushpop, /etc/apt/sources.list | 02:10 |
bruenig | madman-, yeah you can add them via alacarte menu editor | 02:10 |
madman- | bruenig: yes that one | 02:10 |
madman- | looking | 02:10 |
pushpop | thanks | 02:10 |
taychouri-a | bruenig: im on linux now. wanna help me out. | 02:10 |
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pushpop | and how do I get the command "qmake" isntalled? | 02:11 |
w30 | bruenig, Gnome desktop although KDE has a menu editor too. | 02:11 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, go to system>administration>Gnome partition editor | 02:11 |
DaveyJ | i'm installing kde along side gnome.. how do i run kde on another screen? | 02:11 |
bruenig | w30, I didn't know if he was using kde | 02:11 |
bruenig | he may be using kmail in gnome | 02:11 |
taychouri-a | bruenig: k yo. i got that up | 02:11 |
bruenig | if he was using kde, seems like he would be in #kubuntu | 02:11 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, how many partitions does it show? | 02:12 |
madman- | bruenig: very nice , thank you | 02:12 |
bruenig | np | 02:12 |
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taychouri-a | bruenig: 2, (Unallocated 7.5mb, and something elsee called ntfs 38gb | 02:12 |
w30 | bruenig, yeah gets confusing don't it. kubuntu, gunbuntu and kubuntu. oh well | 02:12 |
dffd | is there a list of wifi cards that ubuntu supports? | 02:12 |
Faithful | I can login with ftp-ssl ok and cwd but I cannot do ls it says "ftp: bind: Address already in use" now I know this is because it is bound to port 21 for security reasons but I don't seem to be able to get it to work | 02:13 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, ok, how big is your music collection as far as mb is concerned | 02:13 |
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duaneb | auuugh | 02:13 |
taychouri-a | umm, well i think its at | 02:14 |
taychouri-a | 15gb, so 15000mb? | 02:14 |
bruenig | wow | 02:14 |
duaneb | I keep getting this error: digest veification failed, /usr/protage/kbproto-1.0.2 | 02:14 |
taychouri-a | lol, i know | 02:14 |
duaneb | reason: filesize issn't what it expected | 02:14 |
duaneb | how can i fix this? | 02:14 |
taychouri-a | i love music | 02:14 |
taychouri-a | :) | 02:14 |
foxjwill_ | how do I make a windows ntfs partition writable? right now it's read-only | 02:14 |
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pushpop | Any Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ? | 02:14 |
bruenig | ok, so right click on the ntfs one and click resize, make it 22 GB, 38-15= 23 -1 just to make sure = 22 GB | 02:15 |
Ktron | #xorg is dead, damn-- I think its safe to assume that ubuntu cannot be run on my machine | 02:15 |
Ktron | er, Xorg cannot be run on my machine | 02:15 |
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foxjwill_ | any ideas | 02:15 |
foxjwill_ | ? | 02:15 |
duaneb | anyone? | 02:15 |
duaneb | I really need to use emerge | 02:15 |
bruenig | foxjwill, there is some experiment ntfs writing on linux | 02:16 |
bruenig | !ntfs | 02:16 |
ubotu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse | 02:16 |
w30 | DaveyJ, i have done that but its been so long ago. It entails passing the display option of something like -display 0:1 instead of the default 0:0 to X | 02:16 |
foxjwill_ | thanks | 02:16 |
bruenig | but I am not sure how reliable it is | 02:16 |
DaveyJ | so technically i can run two different desktops on two different monitors? | 02:16 |
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foxjwill_ | what do you mean by '!fuse"? | 02:16 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: it's not advised.. but the best thing until now is ntfs-3g I think | 02:16 |
foxjwill_ | ok | 02:16 |
bruenig | !fuse | 02:16 |
ubotu | Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse | 02:16 |
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taychouri-a | bruenig: It wont let me resize under 28gb | 02:16 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, dang, that means more work | 02:17 |
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profoX` | foxjwill_: bruenig: that looks a bit out of date | 02:17 |
bruenig | resize it to 28 gb | 02:17 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:17 |
taychouri-a | done | 02:17 |
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profoX` | foxjwill_: bruenig: there is ntfs-3g that is more reliable/fast, but it's also still alpha/beta | 02:17 |
profoX` | I would NOT advise writing on NTFS yet | 02:17 |
profoX` | unless in windows :) | 02:17 |
foxjwill_ | ok | 02:17 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal | 02:17 |
foxjwill_ | i guess i'll stick to copying the files | 02:18 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:18 |
foxjwill_ | thanks though | 02:18 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: you can READ from ntfs fine | 02:18 |
profoX` | just write support isn't all that good yet | 02:18 |
w30 | DaveyJ, I had two GUI screens going with the ctl-alt-F8 F7 or whatever. I don't know about different monitors | 02:18 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, sorry I skipped a few steps | 02:18 |
foxjwill_ | i know | 02:18 |
profoX` | it should get better in a few months foxjwill_ | 02:18 |
taychouri-a | lol | 02:18 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:18 |
foxjwill_ | profox: i know | 02:18 |
DaveyJ | is it processor intensive? | 02:18 |
foxjwill_ | profox: i hope so | 02:18 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: :) (blame microsoft!) | 02:18 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, go back into gparted. And right click the extra space and hit new | 02:18 |
izirku | shorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like? | 02:19 |
taychouri-a | the unallocated? | 02:19 |
bruenig | no the new stuff that you just created out of the ntfs | 02:19 |
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bruenig | which is also unallocated. not the 7.5 mb, the 10 gb | 02:19 |
taychouri-a | what new stuff, i have the same things, except ones 10 gb, and ones 27gb | 02:19 |
foxjwill_ | profox: Gates' mother was a hampster and his father smelt of elderberries | 02:19 |
bruenig | right click on the 10 gb one | 02:20 |
taychouri-a | kk | 02:20 |
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taychouri-a | i pressed new | 02:20 |
bruenig | make it logical and make the file format fat32, I think they call it fat32 | 02:20 |
bruenig | if it doesn't say fat32 or there is a vfat option under filesystem, choose vfat | 02:20 |
taychouri-a | it wont let me call it logical | 02:20 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: what? ._. | 02:20 |
profoX` | lol | 02:20 |
wikijeff | Any idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem. | 02:20 |
profoX` | taychouri-a: logical / extended / ...? | 02:21 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, ok, well, you are going to get rid of that ntfs partition eventually right? | 02:21 |
taychouri-a | yeah | 02:21 |
taychouri-a | cuz | 02:21 |
bruenig | ok call it primary | 02:21 |
taychouri-a | k i added i | 02:21 |
bruenig | it is formatted at fat32? | 02:21 |
bruenig | or vfat or whatever | 02:21 |
taychouri-a | yeah | 02:21 |
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bruenig | ok | 02:21 |
taychouri-a | fat32 | 02:21 |
foxjwill_ | profox: haven't you seen the Holy Grail? | 02:22 |
bruenig | what is the name of the 10 gb and 27 gb partitions. SHould be something like /dev/something | 02:22 |
francais | salut | 02:22 |
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taychouri-a | the 27gb is /dev/hdc1, and the 10gb is New Partition #1 | 02:23 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: no.. | 02:23 |
francais | hi | 02:23 |
bruenig | it doesn't have another name except new partition one? | 02:23 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, ok yeah hit apply | 02:23 |
taychouri-a | no | 02:23 |
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taychouri-a | k its doin it | 02:23 |
bruenig | it is up at the top of the gui | 02:23 |
francais | how are you going | 02:23 |
Jbirk | I need shorewall configureation help | 02:23 |
Jbirk | any shorewall experts? | 02:23 |
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bruenig | once it applies it should give it a name, tell me that when it does | 02:24 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:24 |
taychouri-a | they are btoh | 02:24 |
annarave | just wanted to say thanks to the folks who helped me earlier today on my partitioning. | 02:24 |
SillyZ | evening, could someone send me a plain jane default smb.conf from with ubuntu instllation or a kubuntu install? | 02:24 |
taychouri-a | (/dev/hdc1 | 02:24 |
taychouri-a | but | 02:24 |
francais | hi | 02:24 |
annarave | hi everyone | 02:24 |
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taychouri-a | one is 38gb, and one is 7 mb, and the 38gb is unknown type | 02:24 |
foxjwill_ | profox: Monty Python and the Holy Grail? | 02:24 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, it didn't create a 28 gb and 10 gb? | 02:25 |
taychouri-a | nope | 02:25 |
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profoX` | foxjwill_: no i havent seen it.. it's an old movie.. i've seen alot of monty sketches but not that movie | 02:25 |
bruenig | ok tray to partition it again. Keep the ntfs partition a little bigger. It might not like such a drastic resize | 02:26 |
bruenig | try* | 02:26 |
james_xxx | does anyone in here use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter? OR a wusb54gs? i have both.. | 02:26 |
taychouri-a | yeah | 02:26 |
bruenig | do all the same stuff. make ntfs 30 and new fat32 8 gb | 02:26 |
taychouri-a | i think i jsut fucked up my frives | 02:26 |
taychouri-a | drives | 02:26 |
taychouri-a | cuz | 02:26 |
taychouri-a | it wont let me make a new one | 02:26 |
foxjwill_ | profox: you have to see it | 02:26 |
bruenig | right click on the ntfs and hit resize | 02:27 |
taychouri-a | or resize | 02:27 |
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taychouri-a | its messe dup man | 02:27 |
bruenig | well hit reload | 02:27 |
annarave | nomego was really helpful earlier. thanks. | 02:27 |
taychouri-a | i did | 02:27 |
Don_jr | I'm back and having trouble with installing Ubuntu | 02:27 |
annarave | Don_jr: what problem are you having? | 02:27 |
bruenig | all of your data is still there | 02:27 |
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bruenig | try closing and reopening it | 02:27 |
profoX` | foxjwill_: well .. ok .. if i see it in the videostore i'll buy it ;p | 02:28 |
Don_jr | I clicked on the install button while in live CD mode, window popped up saying 'install' in the header, window is blank other than that and the disk has stopped responding. | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | kk brue | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | listen to what i did | 02:28 |
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taychouri-a | i fixed it | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | but | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | listen | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | my ntfs | 02:28 |
taychouri-a | is now 21gb | 02:28 |
bruenig | !enter | 02:28 |
ubotu | Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying. | 02:28 |
Corporal_Dirge | Hello, anyone have experience with pw protected rar files in Ubuntu? | 02:28 |
Fearo | I have a problem with my Apache. My www is /home/user/dev/www and each time i add a new file, i need to set the CHMOD back. Is there a way to auto set all chmod to 755? | 02:29 |
SillyZ | can someone send a default smb.conf from a kubuntu or ubuntu installation, I need one to compare it to the xfce installation | 02:29 |
wikijeff | Any idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem. | 02:29 |
bruenig | get to the point where you have two partitions, they are both named. One is ntfs and one is fat32. Tell me the name. | 02:29 |
annarave | ah. well, good luck on it. i've gotta run my son to a school dinner now. good luck. ciao | 02:29 |
Don_jr | ubuntu needs fat32 to install or ntfs? | 02:29 |
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bruenig | sillyZ where is the smb.conf file | 02:30 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, neither. Default format is ext3 | 02:30 |
c0nfidencal | ext3, reiserfs... | 02:30 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, are you still there | 02:30 |
Don_jr | So if I"m trying on a fat32 system that will cause a problem? | 02:30 |
Don_jr | maybe that why it locked up on me? | 02:30 |
taychouri-a | K listen to what i have, NTFS - 21.65 gb (/dev/hdc1) FAT32- 16.63gb (/dev/hdc3) fat32- 7.84mb (/dev/hdc2) | 02:31 |
Fearo | Can someone help me? Each time I add a new file in my /home/user/dev/www folder, i need to chmod it. Is there a way to auto-chmod it? | 02:31 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, that is good | 02:31 |
taychouri-a | k, i already hit apply | 02:31 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, open up that terminal | 02:31 |
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Corporal_Dirge | Does anyone know how to put a pw in for a rar file? | 02:31 |
SillyZ | bruenig, usually in /etc | 02:31 |
taychouri-a | kk its open | 02:31 |
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neuroe | hiya | 02:32 |
PMantis | Is vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel? | 02:32 |
bruenig | do the following commands "mkdir hdc1" "mkdir hdc3" | 02:32 |
tehsu | How do I get native resolution | 02:32 |
izirku | shorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like? | 02:32 |
tehsu | I set it fine, but the screen doesnt want to change | 02:32 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, if you're installing Ubuntu, it will want to reformat a partition to ext3 (at least one partition) | 02:32 |
taychouri-a | k i entered them | 02:32 |
SillyZ | bruenig, sorry went to go grab a cup of coffee, Im just trying to prove theory here, cuz smb networking is fine under ubuntu and kubuntu, but the smb.conf in xubuntu either dosent exist or is there but blank | 02:32 |
neuroe | smb3 is sweet | 02:33 |
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bruenig | sillyz, i don't see a smb.conf under /etc | 02:33 |
SillyZ | try /etc/smb | 02:33 |
bruenig | taychouri-a ok. do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/hdc1" | 02:33 |
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abaddon | okay I have a question regarding instlalling using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and it still doesn't boot. I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent | 02:33 |
bruenig | ls | grep smb gives nothing | 02:33 |
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abaddon | can anyone help me? | 02:34 |
bruenig | that while in /etc | 02:34 |
Don_jr | Okay, why would it freeze up on me? any clue? | 02:34 |
bruenig | I did locate smb.conf but that is under a samba directory is that what you want | 02:34 |
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SillyZ | bruenig, sorry its /etc/samba/smb.conk | 02:34 |
SillyZ | err conf | 02:34 |
neuroe | did yo use a nes emulator? | 02:34 |
taychouri-a | bruenig: When i put ~hdc1, it said it didnt exist, i took out the ~ and it worked, but it didnt say it did anything, the cd drive made a sound and thats it | 02:34 |
SillyZ | thanks bruenig | 02:35 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc1 | 02:35 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc1 | 02:35 |
bruenig | sorry I was getting ready for the next command | 02:35 |
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jjazz | Hi, I'm trying to umount a dvd, but keep getting told /media/cdrom0: device is busy. I can't figure out what is keeping it busy. How can I umount it? Thanks. | 02:36 |
viator_ | im trying to build qemu fromt i have source its complaing that i have gcc 4X and it wants 3X | 02:36 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, but it doesn't matter the other command works too but only because you are in the directory that you are in | 02:36 |
bruenig | so don't worry about it | 02:36 |
viator_ | whats the proper package name to install it? | 02:36 |
taychouri-a | kk i entered the next thing | 02:36 |
Ranbee | can someone tell me the name of the program which show how HDD space in pictures, please? | 02:36 |
foxjwill_ | jjazz: is that your dvd drive? | 02:36 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc3 hdc3" | 02:36 |
jjazz | foxjwill_: yes | 02:36 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:37 |
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SillyZ | bruenig, now lets see if theory works | 02:37 |
viator_ | whats the name of the package to install gcc 3x ? | 02:37 |
tehsu | I have an X700 and the native resolution is a 1680x1050 but it wont set to that any ideas? | 02:38 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, ok now go up to the menu again and go to places>home folder, there should be two directories in there called hdc1 and hdc3 | 02:38 |
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taychouri-a | yeah | 02:38 |
taychouri-a | therse 2 | 02:38 |
foxjwill_ | jjazz: well then. I'm not completely sure. sorry. | 02:38 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, the hdc1 has your ntfs, the hdc3 has your fat32, open the ntfs and find your music and copy and paste it into the hdc3 or fat32 | 02:38 |
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abaddon | sorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot. I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me? I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive | 02:39 |
jjazz | foxjwill_: Ok, thanks | 02:39 |
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taychouri-a | It says " You don't have permission necessary to view the contents of HDC1 | 02:39 |
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jake1 | errrrrrrrrr | 02:39 |
jake1 | this is frustrating | 02:39 |
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viator_ | it wont allow that resolution under system>prefrences>screen resolution? | 02:39 |
jake1 | so much documentation but none address my problem | 02:40 |
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Don_jr | okay, ubuntu sticks when I'm trying to install....any ideas as to what I can do to troublshoot this problem? | 02:40 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, that is bothersome, go back into the terminal and do gksudo nautilus | 02:40 |
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bruenig | then within that window do the copying and pasting | 02:40 |
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taychouri-a | it now says | 02:41 |
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taychouri-a | in the terminal " why connection to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : Non of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." | 02:42 |
bruenig | yeah but did the window pop up? | 02:42 |
Don_jr | should I try and install from safe graphics mode? or normal install? | 02:42 |
bruenig | that is a bug. It doesn't mean anything | 02:43 |
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taychouri-a | yeah it popped out | 02:43 |
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taychouri-a | its in root | 02:43 |
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bruenig | ok, click file system on the left. then go to home. then ubuntu, your stuff should be in there | 02:43 |
bruenig | once in there go into the ntfs stuff find your music directory. Copy it and then go back and then into your fat32 and paste it | 02:44 |
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grout58 | how can i format a drive from the command line | 02:44 |
taychouri-a | i go into hdc1 | 02:44 |
taychouri-a | and it says 0 items | 02:44 |
abaddon | sorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot. I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me? I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive have not found anything usefull on the forums. | 02:44 |
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taychouri-a | and thers a lock sign on hdc1 | 02:45 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, when you miraculously resized it before to 21, you never deleted it right. You only resized right? | 02:45 |
taychouri-a | yupp | 02:45 |
taychouri-a | i never pressed delete | 02:45 |
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bruenig | so you go into hdc1, and there is nothing in that directory? | 02:46 |
taychouri-a | nothin man | 02:46 |
taychouri-a | i was 27gb out of 38 | 02:46 |
taychouri-a | is that why is only let me make 10 gb that time? | 02:46 |
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bruenig | it should not resize it below how much diskspace was used in it | 02:46 |
taychouri-a | yeah, well i forced it to, cuz you told me | 02:47 |
Don_jr | Okay, if I run ubuntu live CD mode, will the CD ever slow down while it's running that way if I don't touch it? | 02:47 |
taychouri-a | lol | 02:47 |
bruenig | not true | 02:47 |
Tonren | Hey guys, how do I share files between two Ubuntu machines using "NFS"? | 02:47 |
bruenig | ok taychouri-a, go back into the terminal and type "cd hdc1" | 02:47 |
bruenig | then type ls | 02:47 |
bruenig | "ls" | 02:47 |
bruenig | tell me what the output is. | 02:48 |
taychouri-a | Permission Denied | 02:48 |
bruenig | sudo cd hdc1 | 02:48 |
bruenig | then ls | 02:48 |
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taychouri-a | cd command not found | 02:48 |
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Don_jr | lib/firmware/mrv8k-b.fw error loading for device /class/firmware/00000:02:00.0' with driver mrv8k | 02:48 |
bruenig | cd command not found? | 02:48 |
taychouri-a | yea | 02:49 |
bruenig | how is that possible. Do cd / | 02:49 |
taychouri-a | that worked | 02:49 |
bruenig | lol | 02:49 |
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taychouri-a | sith | 02:49 |
taychouri-a | sigh | 02:49 |
bruenig | the command appears to be found now | 02:49 |
taychouri-a | why do i have such bad luck | 02:49 |
bruenig | ok do "cd" | 02:49 |
Don_jr | anyone tell me what that error means? | 02:49 |
bruenig | then do ls, tell me the output | 02:49 |
taychouri-a | i got lots of blue words | 02:50 |
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bruenig | those words being | 02:50 |
bruenig | was hdc1 and hdc3 amongst them? | 02:50 |
Tonren | Guys, does the Share Folders GUI actually work?? | 02:50 |
taychouri-a | nope | 02:50 |
taychouri-a | i got | 02:50 |
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taychouri-a | bin cdrom etc initrd lib mnt proc root srv tmp var boot dev home initrd.img media opt rofs sbin sys usr vmlinux | 02:51 |
bruenig | you didn't get opt home etc boot usr, etc did you? | 02:51 |
taychouri-a | linuz | 02:51 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, do "cd" | 02:51 |
bruenig | you must do cd first to get to the right directory | 02:51 |
bruenig | then do ls | 02:51 |
taychouri-a | k | 02:51 |
Don_jr | Damn, I cannot get this to install.... | 02:51 |
andax | Tonren, install "nfs-kernel-server" package, then have a look at /etc/exports (this file contains what and how you share) , then use "mount ipaddress:/shared/folder " on the other box to mount the exported folders | 02:51 |
bruenig | !alternate | 02:51 |
ubotu | The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install. | 02:51 |
taychouri-a | now i get | 02:51 |
bruenig | try that don | 02:51 |
taychouri-a | desktop hdc1 hdc3 | 02:52 |
bruenig | that is how it should be | 02:52 |
Corporal_Dirge | Anyone know how to extract pw protected rar files? | 02:52 |
bruenig | ok do cd hdc1 | 02:52 |
taychouri-a | permission denies | 02:52 |
Tonren | andax: Should I not bother with the GUI? | 02:52 |
Don_jr | I'm no expert and wouldn't know the commands to use in a text based installation if I had it....lol | 02:52 |
mistraal | anyone know how to change the default home directory for suexec on Apache2? | 02:52 |
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andax | Tonren, sorry I can't help you with the gui | 02:52 |
Tonren | andax: It's OK< I prefer doing things CLI anyway | 02:53 |
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taychouri-a | it lets me go to hdc3 but not hdc1 | 02:53 |
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bruenig | taychouri-a, see if this works. "chown -R ubuntu hdc1" | 02:54 |
bruenig | add sudo in front of that | 02:54 |
bruenig | sudo chown -R ubuntu hdc1 | 02:54 |
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taychouri-a | Chaangiing ownership of 'HDC1' | 02:54 |
bruenig | after that do cd hdc1 | 02:54 |
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Don_jr | okay, totally wiped and formatted HD I'm trying to install on from teh ubuntu live CD download. Should I wait till it is completely done loading the live CD session efore I run the install? | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | still permistion denied | 02:55 |
bruenig | don_jr, yeah, double click the desktop icon once it does | 02:55 |
falkon | I just read through the FAQ pages, and I didn't see the answer I need. Can you use the unofficial debian repositories [www.debian-multimedia.org] with ubuntu? | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | oh | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | after the change | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | ion owner ship | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | it says | 02:55 |
argument | anyone know how i can get 4front oss to work with esd? | 02:55 |
taychouri-a | read only | 02:55 |
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bruenig | but you can go in it? | 02:56 |
taychouri-a | no | 02:56 |
taychouri-a | it denies permsion | 02:56 |
bruenig | one last shot here "sudo chmod 77 -R hdc1" | 02:56 |
bruenig | sudo chmod 777 -R hdc1 | 02:56 |
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Tonren | andax: How could I tell hosts.allow to only allow a specific user on a specific hostname on the local network? | 02:56 |
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taychouri-a | changing permissions of hdc1: read only file system | 02:57 |
riddlebox | do I need python-pythoncard? | 02:57 |
frioloco | anyone know of a tutorial for dvd->xvid in ubuntu? | 02:57 |
bruenig | can you cd into it now | 02:57 |
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taychouri-a | nnope | 02:57 |
Don_jr | Okay, how will I know when the live CD is done with it's setup? Will the disk quiet down a bit? | 02:57 |
taychouri-a | my files are gone arent they | 02:57 |
taychouri-a | sigh | 02:57 |
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bruenig | you can still do it. But you can only move over the files after install. Which might actually be easier | 02:58 |
taychouri-a | isnt there a way | 02:58 |
taychouri-a | to take it off my ipod | 02:58 |
bruenig | taychouri-a yeah | 02:58 |
bruenig | do you have them on your ipod | 02:58 |
janbanan | Does anyone know if there is a guide on how to make a program "bar" that look like the one on the bottom of this picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26448&file1=26448-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=nuoveXT | 02:58 |
taychouri-a | yes | 02:58 |
taychouri-a | lol | 02:58 |
bruenig | wtf | 02:58 |
duaneb | eeeugh | 02:58 |
viator_ | ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output | 02:59 |
viator_ | To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check | 02:59 |
viator_ | Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card. | 02:59 |
Don_jr | if Ubuntu will not load, is there another decent version of *nix system I can try out? | 02:59 |
duaneb | emerge needs a progress bar or something | 02:59 |
viator_ | whoops | 02:59 |
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viator_ | i know pastebin | 02:59 |
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Corporal_Dirge | Anyone know how to extract pw protected rar files? | 02:59 |
taychouri-a | Corporal_Dirge: Why are files passworded? | 02:59 |
viator_ | anyone know what sdl package to install to get rid of that error? | 02:59 |
bruenig | ok, restart your computer. When it boots up double click the install button, Wipe the whole drive and install. If you need help moving the music off the ipod afterwards. Come in here I guarantee you somebody can help you there as popular as that stuff is | 03:00 |
Tonren | Hey, what channel would I head to if I wanted to ask some general questions about networking, network permissions, etc. on GNU servers? | 03:00 |
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taychouri-a | kk | 03:00 |
taychouri-a | man thanks | 03:00 |
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taychouri-a | so i gotta delete the apritions | 03:00 |
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taychouri-a | and shti | 03:00 |
taychouri-a | kk | 03:00 |
Corporal_Dirge | taychouri-a, I archived it, but I can't remember the pw.. But I'm more interested in how to use Linux to open it | 03:00 |
mneptok | janbanan: use E's Engage app, or adesklets or gdesklets | 03:00 |
bruenig | taychouri-a, it will do it in the install | 03:00 |
bruenig | you can delete them if you want with gparted but it doesn't really matter because it will do it in the install | 03:01 |
andax | Corporal_Dirge, go to www.rarsoft.com , download the linux console version, tar -xzvf rar-xxx.tgz, make install, then you'll have the 'unrar' command. When extracting pw protected files (unrar x whatever.rar) it will ask for the password. | 03:01 |
taychouri-a | Corporal_Dirge: Oh ok! :) I thought you were trying to open something that wasn't yours :P | 03:01 |
janbanan | mneptok: thanks mate | 03:01 |
viator_ | !kqemu | 03:01 |
ubotu | kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86 | 03:01 |
taychouri-a | well brb! Ic ant wait for this! | 03:01 |
slid3r | any one know the quick and dirty wayo to handle the totem error :: No URI handler implemented for "mms". | 03:01 |
Tonren | Is there a way to give NFS permissions ONLY to a specific COMPUTER - not IP address? | 03:01 |
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Corporal_Dirge | andax, ok, thanks. I have the rar plugin for Archive manager, but the pw field was always grey and didn't allow pw entry,. | 03:01 |
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fyyrest0rm | how can i use adept to browse categories (games, internet, etc)? | 03:02 |
andax | Corporal_Dirge, i guess you'll have to use the console version :( | 03:02 |
fyyrest0rm | or is it even possible? | 03:02 |
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Corporal_Dirge | adax, so just unrar <pw> file? | 03:02 |
tapio_ | How come ubuntu doesn't have software mixing by default? | 03:02 |
andax | Corporal_Dirge, unrar x something.rar , and it will ask for the password | 03:02 |
Corporal_Dirge | adax, What's the x for? | 03:03 |
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andax | Corporal_Dirge, eXtract :) | 03:03 |
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pluma | Is there a way to resize a mounted partition? | 03:03 |
Corporal_Dirge | adax, it's not -x? I'll try it now. | 03:03 |
w30 | janbanan, the bar is standard gnome configured in the panel prefs menu. the icons will have to ge gotten from gmom-look,org or wherever.... | 03:03 |
jake1 | these documentations are useless..... | 03:03 |
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skarface | how do I override icons that were changed by a theme, specifically those for applciations on the gnome panel? | 03:04 |
jake1 | anyone have any idea why only part of my screen works when i am trying to install Ubuntu.... this makes it impossible to install ubuntu since i can't see what i am doing...... any help would be appreciated | 03:04 |
andax | Corporal_Dirge, type it exactly like this: "unrar x something,rar" then give the correct password, and it will unrar the archive with full paths stored | 03:04 |
jake1 | http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg | 03:04 |
w30 | janbanan, using options like hide handles, center color choices etc. You can play all day :=) | 03:04 |
jake1 | that is a photo of what i am talking about | 03:04 |
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tehsu | What is wrong if the resolution wont set correctly? | 03:05 |
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janbanan | w30: Do you know if there are any tips & tricks page? | 03:05 |
falkon | screw it, debian time | 03:05 |
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w30 | no, but I got a bar configured like that by playing half a day and using icon sets downloaded from gnome-look.org. I think the icons were called believe it or not osx | 03:07 |
pluma | Anyone? | 03:07 |
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ISOLATEDViRuS | ok, when my screensaver turns on, or I try to change which screensaver I want to use, my system freezes up on me and I have to force a shutdown and reboot. | 03:08 |
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TLE_02 | I'm looking for a command to cut a piece out of an audiofile with, any suggestions ? | 03:08 |
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andax | jake1, i am not sure but as no one else is answering... try passing a "vga=771" parameter to the kernel while booting the installer, but that's just a guess. (that's how I installed it on my laptop) | 03:08 |
taychouri-1 | Can someone help me with partitions? | 03:08 |
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jake1 | how would i do that andax? | 03:09 |
dasteve2 | Does anyone have experience setting up widescreen displays to display native resolution in X? | 03:09 |
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bitblit | hi all; i'm trying to use gconf-editor, but when i make changes they dont persist. specifiaclly, i am trying to add the 'water' plugin to compiz :) | 03:10 |
w30 | janbanan, I recomend that you create a new user account and play with it in case you want to go back to something standard and can't get there. Ha! been there,etc. | 03:10 |
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taychouri-1 | How can i make 2 partitions come together | 03:10 |
dasteve2 | delete one and extend the other | 03:10 |
VOYAGER | without loosing data ? | 03:11 |
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wweasel | I am experiencing a very ood problem right now. I just plugged in my iRiver, but it seems that Gnome's panels and such have crashed. Rhythmbox launched and stopped working. Everything seemed dead, but I launched a terminal using a keyboard shortcut and launched x-chat. help? | 03:11 |
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taychouri-1 | no i wanna install ubuntu | 03:11 |
taychouri-1 | but | 03:11 |
taychouri-1 | one sec | 03:11 |
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w30 | taychouri-1, have you got stuff on them that you want to keep? | 03:11 |
mike_ | hi hi | 03:11 |
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taychouri-1 | i cant get it off | 03:11 |
taychouri-1 | cuz i want my msuic | 03:11 |
taychouri-1 | but | 03:11 |
janbanan | w30: Ok. thanks. I've done it once on breezy but can't remember how I did it. there was a guide on the forum but I cant find it | 03:12 |
taychouri-1 | i am gunna take my msuic off my ipod? | 03:12 |
taychouri-1 | isnt that better? | 03:12 |
viator_ | !sdl | 03:12 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:12 |
taychouri-1 | I just want 1 partition | 03:12 |
andax | jake1, i can't remember exactly but when the install CD boots up, and the first screen appears (when you choose to install , safe graphic mode etc) try pressing keys from F1 to F8 , and additional install options will be displayed. | 03:13 |
dasteve2 | as far as i know there is no way of joining partitions that doesnt lose data, you should back up the data of one partition, delete it, and extend the other, using a bootable cd with a partition manager | 03:13 |
taychouri-1 | how can i add the un allocated tot he ntfs | 03:13 |
jake1 | oh ok | 03:13 |
jake1 | i will try that | 03:13 |
dasteve2 | im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas? | 03:13 |
jake1 | thanx | 03:13 |
taychouri-1 | there i got it | 03:14 |
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mike_ | can anyone who is really good with ubuntu look at this for me please ??? | 03:14 |
mike_ | http://pastebin.ca/146994 | 03:14 |
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Dravas | !nvidia | 03:14 |
ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 03:14 |
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Dravas | <3 ubotu | 03:14 |
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cdubya | can you change the boot splash screen to something else other than the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu verbose? | 03:15 |
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dasteve2 | the drivers are installed correctly | 03:15 |
w30 | taychouri-1, if you want to keep files that are on both partitions then you will want to back up the files and copy them or at least one set of the files on the partition that you delete. | 03:15 |
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bbrazil | cdubya: yes, check the usplash docs | 03:15 |
jake1 | i was just kinda scoping out the possibility of installing Fedora Core on my laptop, but i'm not sure whether to check x86_64 or if i should select i386 | 03:15 |
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jake1 | it's an AMD Turion 64-bit ML 32 | 03:16 |
knoppix_ | keep it real | 03:16 |
cdubya | bbrazil, not usplash | 03:16 |
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tehsu | If I install ati driver using the run file, what else do i need to do besides running the installer | 03:16 |
Corporal_Dirge | adax, ok, I foud out why it was passwording me.. file is partially corrupt.. CLI has a repair mode that got most of it back =) | 03:17 |
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NewtoUbuntu | Hey does any1 know if it is possible to get a wireless keyboard that is specifically designed for Windows xp to work on Linux even though it is not on the keyboards list? | 03:17 |
jake1 | i'm gonna try to install this one more time | 03:17 |
jake1 | see what happens | 03:17 |
jake1 | bbiab | 03:17 |
Corporal_Dirge | NewtoUbuntu, Usually it'll work with the exception of the extra keys. | 03:17 |
SoCal | I don't like wireless....batteries die too fast for me | 03:17 |
SoCal | lol | 03:18 |
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NewtoUbuntu | ok thanks ill give it a try.. so i just plug it in correct? | 03:18 |
w30 | jake1, I use x86_64 on a desktop and it is faster with x86_64 but a few things llike shockwave flash and wmv playing is missing on the 64bit distro because of foot draging from people like Swhockwave Microsoft 64 bit and RealPlay10 | 03:18 |
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Corporal_Dirge | NewtoUbuntu, Yup,. | 03:18 |
VOYAGER | mike_, if you log on as sudo you should be able to change to infastructure | 03:18 |
ielliott | Has there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC? | 03:18 |
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dasteve2 | im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas? ive been googling for a long time, no luck yet | 03:18 |
NewtoUbuntu | kk well ill try thank u much corporal_dirge | 03:19 |
bitblit | i'm following instructions for using gconf-editor, but it does not save changes that I make... any ideas? | 03:19 |
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james_xxx | ? | 03:19 |
Don_jr | Okay, live CD is running and starting to set up | 03:19 |
mike_ | VOYAGER: ehm.... what would I type at command line? | 03:19 |
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SoCal | I only configured mine for 1024x768 | 03:19 |
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VOYAGER | dasteve2, try reducing the color to 24 and try to get your rez then | 03:19 |
Don_jr | and the computer just shut it's self off....... | 03:19 |
Don_jr | what the hell? | 03:19 |
SoCal | hmm | 03:20 |
SoCal | dunno | 03:20 |
NemesisUK | Don_jr, is the computer having temp. probs? | 03:20 |
Don_jr | got to "loading hardware" and poof, went off | 03:20 |
Don_jr | do'nt think so, not sure | 03:20 |
VOYAGER | mike_, i just log in as sudo and use the gui setup sorry no cli here | 03:20 |
SoCal | I'm using xchat in a liveCD version of Knoppix....pretty nice, but I really like Ubuntu....very easy setup | 03:20 |
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Madpilot | Don_jr, is this a CD you burned yourself, or a ShipIt one? | 03:20 |
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Don_jr | ISO I burnt | 03:20 |
NemesisUK | check the disk | 03:21 |
Don_jr | okay | 03:21 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, did you run md5sum on the ISO before you burned it? | 03:21 |
andax | kyja, who cares? turn that script off please.. thank you | 03:21 |
SoCal | Don_jr, what speed did you burn the disk at? | 03:21 |
FearMoth | is there any program that I can use to cut clips out of a dvd or quicktime video and save them as mpeg, avi or .mov ? | 03:21 |
Don_jr | no, don't know what that is and I burnt it in windows | 03:21 |
Don_jr | 12X speed | 03:21 |
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SoCal | that should be ok | 03:21 |
pluma | Hah. Catch 22. I can't copy my MP3 collection over to my Linux box because I don't have enough free space and I can't simply add another harddisk because I would need to buy a new controller, for which I currently lack the money. In order to earn money, I would need to get some coding done, for which I need more RAM, which I can't buy because I don't have enough money. | 03:21 |
justin_ | Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff? | 03:21 |
VOYAGER | Don_jr, try burning at 8x | 03:22 |
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SoCal | ya...maybe what someone else said...check the checksum | 03:22 |
pluma | Well, actually only the last bit qualifies, but I can't code without music anyway. | 03:22 |
SoCal | maybe corrupt file | 03:22 |
VOYAGER | but yes check md5 | 03:22 |
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w30 | Don_jr, google for md5sum for windows | 03:22 |
Don_jr | okay, how do I check the checksum from windows? | 03:22 |
Don_jr | okay | 03:22 |
Don_jr | md5sum | 03:22 |
VOYAGER | md5summer | 03:22 |
Don_jr | whole word? | 03:23 |
rummik | something like that | 03:23 |
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Don_jr | md5summer | 03:23 |
w30 | Don_jr, I bellieve it is md5sum.exe? | 03:23 |
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SoCal | has anyone watched the hak.5 videos? | 03:23 |
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rummik | i bet that hurt them more than it did us :P | 03:23 |
SoCal | lots of stuff | 03:23 |
bimberi | !netsplit | 03:24 |
ubotu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 03:24 |
ielliott | Has there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC? | 03:24 |
EpP | i have 2 linux computers one is a laptop that gets wireless and the other is a desktop that i want to get internet from the laptop... how do i do this? | 03:24 |
ielliott | i ran the desktop install, and when it loads the graphic is fine, and the command line is fine, but when i get to the login screen its all screwy | 03:24 |
ielliott | and i only set it for 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480 nothing fancy | 03:24 |
VOYAGER | http://www.md5summer.org/ | 03:24 |
Don_jr | I've found a site that has it | 03:24 |
w30 | Don_jr, but Bill don't furnish it. You will have get download the execute binary and install it to run it. | 03:24 |
rummik | ty ubotu | 03:24 |
Don_jr | I run that file and direct the program to the .ISO file? | 03:24 |
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NemesisUK | Don_jr, yes | 03:24 |
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Don_jr | ok | 03:25 |
VOYAGER | dload the md5 hash from the dload site | 03:25 |
pluma | Also, what's with the 700-odd MB RAM Ubuntu seems to be using only to power Gnome, XChat, Firefox, Kopete, Thunderbird and a few services? Is Firefox collecting dead weight again or what? | 03:25 |
Don_jr | the install made it past the loading hardware this time.... | 03:25 |
w30 | Don_jr, yeah, md5sum xxx.iso | 03:25 |
EpP | how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu | 03:25 |
andax | EpP, apt-get install ipmasq on the laptop, and "route add default gw laptop" on the desktop (check the ipmasq man page for detailed info) | 03:25 |
justin_ | Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff? | 03:25 |
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Don_jr | okay downloading now | 03:25 |
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Don_jr | then, if no errors, try burning at a slower speed? | 03:26 |
VOYAGER | Don_jr, kool | 03:26 |
VOYAGER | yes | 03:26 |
SoCal | i would try a slower speed | 03:26 |
w30 | Don_jr, yeah Whatsisname VOYAGER says and compare numbers | 03:26 |
Don_jr | it's loading at the moment on the laptop, hasn't locked up again yet | 03:26 |
tnzr | I wonder if the polite thing to do is always the right thing to do. When I met the family from Japan, they all bowed. I pretended like I was going to bow, but then I just kept going and flipped over on my back. I did this five times. I think they got the point. | 03:26 |
SoCal | 8x or 4x | 03:26 |
Don_jr | compare numbers to what? | 03:26 |
dalila | tried 2 ps/2 mice and they dont work , i just bought a brand new hp/ps2 model M871 and it wont work how can i reconfigure just the mouse to get it to work | 03:26 |
Whatsisname | what? | 03:26 |
dalila | cat /proc/interupts does not show it | 03:27 |
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w30 | Don_jr, there is a text file at the sight of your iso that has the md5sum numbers in it that the md5sum.exe output generates | 03:27 |
MrParanoia | why is /etc/rc.local disabled by default? | 03:28 |
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andax | dalila, ps2 mice may need a reboot to become working (don't know why) | 03:28 |
dalila | i did reboot | 03:28 |
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BOBSONATOR | Sweet, first time in irc, | 03:28 |
ironyCurtain | Hi all. I cannot for the life of me get my wireless to work on my laptop. It is Intel Pro 2200 Wireless (Centrino), and it uses the ipw2200 driver. It is detected on eth1, and it can see wireless networks in my area, but when I try to connect to my wireless network through Network Settings it says it is disconnected. I installed wifi-radar, and I made more progress with it. It actually sends packets but is repeatedly connecting a | 03:28 |
pluma | Is 256 MB RAM enough for WinXP to run only WiMP and BitTorrent or will I regret that? | 03:28 |
w30 | Don_jr, an incorrectly downloaded file will generate different md5sums | 03:28 |
tnzr | ironyCurtain: is wpa_supplicant installed? | 03:29 |
pluma | Hm... I'll better leave it 512 MB. Just for good measure. | 03:29 |
BOBSONATOR | Irony curtain, click the icon, then hit the drop down box, and then hit the thing | 03:29 |
BOBSONATOR | hit your network | 03:29 |
dalila | dmesg does now show it either | 03:29 |
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hou5ton | ok ... i have video playing on CNN and YouTube ... but it won't play at all on MSNBC and only the sound plays on FoxNews. | 03:29 |
ironyCurtain | tnzr: no, i use WEP | 03:30 |
BOBSONATOR | because its a wmv | 03:30 |
Don_jr | so if I run it twice it will be different each time if there's errors? | 03:30 |
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tnzr | ironyCurtain: iwconfig eth1 essid <your essid> channel <your channel> | 03:30 |
hou5ton | BOBSONATOR: is it also wmv on Fox? | 03:30 |
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tnzr | ironyCurtain: then ifup eth1 | 03:30 |
BOBSONATOR | i think so | 03:30 |
mike_ | someone told me to login as sudo | 03:30 |
mike_ | how do I do this???? | 03:30 |
BOBSONATOR | su | 03:30 |
Jbirk | what is Ubuntu max color depth? | 03:30 |
profoX | mike_: you don't | 03:30 |
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profoX | mike_: you type: sudo command | 03:30 |
mike_ | profoX: then why were tehy telling me this!? | 03:30 |
evan_ | how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu | 03:30 |
mike_ | profoX: they SPECIFICALLY SAID login as sudo | 03:31 |
profoX | mike_: sudo means: execute this command as root | 03:31 |
mike_ | makes no sense | 03:31 |
BOBSONATOR | su, then password, then you are root. | 03:31 |
profoX | mike_: they said wrong. | 03:31 |
w30 | Don_jr, like files will generate like md5sums when you run md5sum and read the output | 03:31 |
profoX | mike_: you can only login as sudo if you have a user named sudo ;) | 03:31 |
MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> turn off the wep when using public networks (hotspots) | 03:31 |
tnzr | mike_: sudo is a command | 03:31 |
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mike_ | profoX: it means execute as another user | 03:31 |
tnzr | not a user | 03:31 |
andax | hou5ton, it's not a problem to play wmv files, try using mplayer-plugin ( http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ ) | 03:31 |
SoCal | sudo means superuser do | 03:31 |
mike_ | tnzr: you're five minutes too late, and I already know, kthnx | 03:31 |
w30 | Don_jr, think of the md5sum as the total and correct number of bites in the file | 03:31 |
tnzr | it means execute as root (superuser = su = "sudo") | 03:31 |
SoCal | means do this command using su | 03:31 |
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profoX | mike_: what SoCal says | 03:32 |
tnzr | mike_: listen to yourself, kthx | 03:32 |
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tnzr | and dont say "kthx" in a Linux channel and expect serious help | 03:32 |
hou5ton | andax: ya .. that's what I have .. the extension installed for firefox, etc. ... and CNN uses it just fine??? | 03:32 |
ironyCurtain | MrParanoia: this is my home network though, technically my roommate's, i can't turn off encryption | 03:32 |
tnzr | I guess you could in #ubuntu.. nevermind. | 03:32 |
mike_ | right, let's stop useless chat and see if anyone can fix my wireless :p | 03:32 |
Don_jr | okay w30 where I'm confused is, if I run the md5 on the .ISO file, I get a number, what do I compare that number to to see if there is an error? | 03:32 |
andax | hou5ton, never tried, i'll check it | 03:32 |
hou5ton | andax: How do I get the other websites to use it | 03:32 |
evan_ | how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu? | 03:32 |
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mike_ | evan_: buy a switch.... =) | 03:32 |
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felipe___ | rubyonrails | 03:32 |
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MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> you can't turn off the WEP on your laptop or on the router? | 03:33 |
evan_ | mike_, have one... | 03:33 |
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mike_ | evan_: buy a router.... shrug. | 03:33 |
w30 | Don_jr, the other supposedly matching number will be posted on the internet at the same place that offered the iso file for downloading | 03:33 |
evan_ | mike_, have 1 | 03:33 |
Phoul | Does anyone here know anything about darkbot (i know its not the right room just curious) | 03:33 |
ironyCurtain | MrParanoia: The WEP isn't the issue, I think, because it does the same thing when connecting to an unsecured network. | 03:33 |
mark__ | In the repository their is linux-686 and linux-686-smp, when either one is set to be installed it marks the same 686 kernel's? so does it not matter which I select for a Pentium4 to get hyperthreading? | 03:33 |
Don_jr | okay, thank you | 03:33 |
Don_jr | I"ll go look and see if I can find that info now so I know what I"m looking for | 03:33 |
tnzr | ironyCurtain: did you try the iwconfig/ifup eth1 stuff? | 03:34 |
evan_ | mike_, i have a laptop that get wireless that i want to share with the pc in my room so i dont have to run a wire down the hall | 03:34 |
profoX | evan_: internet sharing? with a router that shouldn't be a problem - or do I miss something | 03:34 |
viator_ | plug other computers into the router lol | 03:34 |
dalila | when i burn with gnomebaker i get this error Using IMAGESPRODUCTSEARRINGSF000.JPEG;1 for /home/dalila/Desktop/olddocs/Bracelets With A Story/item.asp_files/imagesproductsearringsfruitwhite.jpeg (imagesproductsearringsfruitblue.jpeg) | 03:34 |
dalila | Incorrectly encoded string (in cursos UNE.xls) encountered. | 03:34 |
dalila | Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting | 03:34 |
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tnzr | evan: your laptop running ubuntu? | 03:34 |
andax | hou5ton, i checked www.cnn.com , the videos are playing fine for me using mplayer-plugin + firefox | 03:34 |
MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> if you have WEP turned on when using a network that doesn't use WEP, it won't connect | 03:34 |
evan_ | tnzr, yes both comps | 03:34 |
w30 | mark__, smp stands for multiple processors | 03:34 |
profoX | evan_: is the computer connected to the router? | 03:35 |
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hou5ton | andax: I know .... it's FoxNEws that only the sound works, and on MSNBC, nothing does | 03:35 |
MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> otherwise, you're using the wrong WEP key | 03:35 |
profoX | or how do you want to share the internet? | 03:35 |
tnzr | evan_: its kind of a long story but I think youd use iptables.. wireless card woul dbe the external and your lan card would be the internal, your laptop would be the router | 03:35 |
viator_ | are you saying you want the linux box to act as a gateway /router | 03:35 |
andax | hou5ton, oh okay checking them | 03:35 |
viator_ | to share its connection? | 03:35 |
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tnzr | youd need to read up on using iptables and linux for routing purposes | 03:35 |
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evan_ | profoX, im on the laptop right now... i just want to share this connection with the desktop in my room | 03:35 |
ironyCurtain | MrParanoia: i turn it off when connecting to an unsecured network | 03:36 |
SoCal | does your desktop have a wireless card too? | 03:36 |
MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> if you have a firewall installed, consider turning it off for testing | 03:36 |
profoX | evan_: without having to put a cable in the router u mean? | 03:36 |
mike_ | http://pastebin.ca/146994 | 03:36 |
tnzr | your desktop wouldnt need a wireless card, you could plug it directly into your laptops ethernet jack | 03:36 |
tnzr | err | 03:36 |
tnzr | into a hub into your laptops ethernet jack | 03:36 |
dalila | brb | 03:36 |
mark__ | w30, I know so which should I select to have hyperthreading does that count as multiple cpu's, just I read in the ubuntu forums about this saying it should be linux-686-smp but it seems to point to the same 686 kernels. | 03:36 |
klhrevolutionist | Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ? | 03:36 |
evan_ | so like MODEM -> router ---wireless--> Laptop ---WIRE--> desktop | 03:36 |
tnzr | evan_: you can prolly do it that way but ive never done it without a hub between the laptop -> desktop | 03:37 |
fangorious | i'm messing around with having multiple ServerLayout sections in xorg.conf, and have two of the intended three working. I assume I have to pick which layout to use before gdm starts, is there a way to do that with a grub kernel option? | 03:37 |
mike_ | ^ wireless config doesn't seem to work | 03:37 |
mark__ | so surely it doesn't make a difference? | 03:37 |
evan_ | tnzr, its a crossover cablet hat goes to my desktop | 03:37 |
andax | hou5ton, confirmed, foxnews only plays sound, no picture :( | 03:37 |
tnzr | evan_: that would work | 03:37 |
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hou5ton | andax: so .... what shall we do now? :-) | 03:38 |
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tnzr | evan its pretty easy to setup, the tough part is just setting up iptables nad actually understanding what you are doing.. I couldnt even really begin to tell you here, though Ive used a linux box as a router for quite some time (a gentoo box, no wireless) | 03:38 |
MrParanoia | this ubuntu takes some getting use to | 03:38 |
w30 | mark__, what's hyperthreading? I thought that was a Microsoft thing? | 03:38 |
evan_ | profoX, im connected wirelessly with my laptop. now i just want to plug a crossover from my latop to my desktop so i dont have to run a wire to my router... | 03:38 |
evan_ | tnzr, im a n00b, how would i do it? | 03:38 |
MrParanoia | w30> hyperthreading is a cpu feature | 03:38 |
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mike_ | Is shockwave doable on ubuntu ? | 03:38 |
tnzr | evan_: we could try something :) im not a network guru but maybe you could plug it into your laptop and set a route on your laptop or something | 03:39 |
bimberi | !shockwave | 03:39 |
ubotu | shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave | 03:39 |
andax | hou5ton, i have no idea, foxnews seems to be using flash video which i have no clue about, i could have helped with the mplayer plugin only | 03:39 |
VOYAGER | it should show up as 2 processors in top | 03:39 |
evan_ | tnzr, how would i go about doing that? | 03:39 |
VOYAGER | type top at command line | 03:39 |
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ubuntu_ | the dapper live/install-cd can't do X on my computer (it gets confused by the 4 video cards, i think). can i still do the old text-mode install? | 03:39 |
mike_ | bimberi: how about you tell me something searching google *didn't*? :-) | 03:39 |
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w30 | mike_, hyper transport is amd's architecture | 03:39 |
tehsu | !info w32codecs | 03:39 |
ubotu | Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper | 03:39 |
profoX | ubuntu_: use alternate install cd | 03:39 |
mike_ | w30: wrong person... :) | 03:40 |
tehsu | !info w32codec | 03:40 |
ubotu | Package w32codec does not exist in dapper | 03:40 |
Don_jr | Okay, live CD mode is running properly thus far. disk is done chattering at me and mouse still moves | 03:40 |
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tehsu | what do I use for decoding mp3 and wma | 03:40 |
Don_jr | is there anything I should do before clicking the install button? | 03:40 |
w30 | mike_, sorry | 03:40 |
ubuntu_ | profoX blarg, out of cdr's, the binary for the old install is no where on the livecd? | 03:40 |
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mark__ | ok it does show two CPU's in GNOME's System Monitor so I guess it is working just don't know why their is a linux-686 and linux-686-smp that both install the same kernels | 03:40 |
andax | tehsu, www.mplayerhq.hu or apt-get install mplayer | 03:40 |
profoX | ubuntu_: not that i know - although that would have made it more user friendly.. | 03:40 |
ubuntu_ | profoX: ok, well, thank you for the help, guess i better go dig up some more cds | 03:41 |
tehsu | !info mplayer | 03:41 |
ubotu | mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB | 03:41 |
bimberi | mike_: lol, well i know that it really doesn't work very well. It uses wine and my kids, who are discerning lego.com shockwave game players, have to use windows :| | 03:41 |
tehsu | :o | 03:41 |
profoX | mark__: dummy package probably | 03:41 |
tehsu | it says couldnt find mplayer | 03:41 |
mark__ | profoX, ah ok | 03:41 |
VOYAGER | mark__, the non smp will install it oh on 1 processor but you should have the smp version if more than 1 processor | 03:41 |
mike_ | bimberi: hm... k, thx. I'm setting up ubuntu for an elderly fellow (he is Mike, I am Quintin) and wanted shockwave.... | 03:41 |
klhrevolutionist | Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ? | 03:41 |
profoX | mark__: u can ignore it could be a transitional package to avoid confusion | 03:42 |
tnzr | evan_: plug the desktop into your laptop, youll have to specify an internal address on your laptops nic (not wireless).. 192.168.0.1 or something, then set an ip on your PC, set its gateway to your laptops nic (192.168.0.1), then on your laptop, you could forward info coming in on 192.168.0.1 to the wireless card, using hte route command I believe. If route is incapable of something like that, youd probably definitely have to use iptables | 03:42 |
mike_ | bimberi: got java and flash at least. so yahoo games works | 03:42 |
andax | tehsu, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repositories, then apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer | 03:42 |
evan_ | tnzr, i dont know howl. | 03:42 |
tehsu | k | 03:42 |
profoX | VOYAGER: i actually think 686 is smp by default now | 03:42 |
mike_ | How do I get better multimedia support? eg. divx xvid, wma wmv etc ? | 03:42 |
VOYAGER | profoX, tnx | 03:42 |
profoX | VOYAGER: so -smp is just transitional package in 686 and k7 | 03:42 |
VOYAGER | i had to use the smp on beta testing | 03:43 |
MrParanoia | ironyCurtain> BTW, i'm using the ipw2200 on my dell600m with no problems | 03:43 |
VOYAGER | on my dual xeons | 03:43 |
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VOYAGER | but not on the p4 with hyperthreading | 03:43 |
UncleD | Does anyone know how to make dircolors work properly? | 03:43 |
profoX | VOYAGER: well i could be wrong.. | 03:43 |
UncleD | I can't seem to get my directory color to change from blue to green | 03:43 |
profoX | thought i heard it somewhere | 03:43 |
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w30 | mark__, crazy eh? I don't know if the disro needs tweaking for multi-processors either. | 03:44 |
UncleD | I want to do ls --color and see my directorys as GREEN. Anyone? | 03:44 |
VOYAGER | profoX, could be i gave up after the tests | 03:44 |
mark__ | w30, yep a little confusing | 03:44 |
Don_jr | okay, the live CD OS is running fine right now. Is there anything I should do before clicking the install? | 03:44 |
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Chu | If I wanted to use the 686 linux kernel instead of the 386, should I just install through synaptic, or do I need to do something with my current kernel as well? | 03:44 |
mike_ | UncleD: directories are supposed to be blue. are you crazy?! | 03:44 |
tehsu | andax: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidat | 03:44 |
mike_ | Don_jr: make backups | 03:44 |
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Don_jr | backups of what? it's a whiped HD | 03:44 |
mark__ | just I read on the Ubuntu forums it was essential to have the linux-686-smp one marked with the Pentium4 | 03:44 |
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profoX | Chu: installing linux-686 will pull the necessary dependancies afaik :) | 03:45 |
mike_ | Don_jr: just run the installer and accept defaults then. | 03:45 |
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Chu | profoX: It didn't say it needed any... | 03:45 |
UncleD | mike_: I have a black background and it's hard for my eyes. | 03:45 |
tehsu | andax: wont install mplayer | 03:45 |
tehsu | !info mplayer | 03:45 |
ubotu | mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB | 03:45 |
tehsu | hm | 03:45 |
andax | tehsu, check http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html | 03:45 |
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tehsu | ok | 03:46 |
profoX | Chu: oh? could be.. | 03:46 |
tnzr | evan: yeah its a little tricky.. ive never done that so I couldnt really tell you how teh route command would work.. your PC's ip would be something like 192.168.0.100, your laptoips nic would be your PC's gateway (192.168.0.1) and your wireless nic would be your non-wireless laptop nic's gateway, so to speak | 03:46 |
Don_jr | ubotu been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff | 03:46 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:46 |
profoX | Chu: yoou can always go back to old kernel if it doesnt work | 03:46 |
Don_jr | lol | 03:46 |
tehsu | multiverse | 03:46 |
lupine | route: route add default gw <router IP> | 03:46 |
Don_jr | it's a bot...okay I"m an idiot | 03:46 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 03:46 |
lupine | (as sudo) | 03:46 |
UncleD | mike_: Help me change my colors! | 03:46 |
Chu | I'm asking if I need to do anything with my current kernel. I'm not sure how it would like multiple kernels... | 03:46 |
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profoX | Don_jr: its a bot | 03:47 |
wikijeff | Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks! | 03:47 |
malv | anyone know of a good router brand? | 03:47 |
Don_jr | I clicked install, disk is goin nutz, but noting on the screen yet.... | 03:47 |
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malv | or model, rather? | 03:47 |
profoX | Don_jr: lol | 03:47 |
mike_ | UncleD: if you can fix my wireless problem, I will help you change your colors. otherwise, no deal!! | 03:47 |
Don_jr | yeah, I"m a dope...heh | 03:47 |
tehsu | malv: linksys | 03:47 |
Chu | But it doesn't say it needs to remove anything, so I'm a bit confused. :p | 03:47 |
malv | tehsu: which model? | 03:47 |
Don_jr | This is like my 3rd time in IRC...bear with me here | 03:47 |
mike_ | p://pastebin.ca/146994 wireless issues, please to be looking :) | 03:47 |
profoX | Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one | 03:47 |
louis__ | hello | 03:47 |
louis__ | i am a newbie | 03:47 |
louis__ | does any1 chat with me | 03:47 |
kitsuneofdoom | louis__: first thing, don't introduce yourself. Just write down your problem | 03:48 |
Don_jr | Any reason why I don't have anything on my desktop after clickin the install button? Disk is going nutz like it's doing something, but nothing to report what's being done.. | 03:48 |
andax | louis__, just ask your question and someone will help you sooner or later | 03:48 |
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mike_ | UncleD: I'm waiting......... | 03:48 |
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mike_ | Don_jr: sit and wait patiently. | 03:48 |
Don_jr | ok | 03:48 |
UncleD | mike_: Whats your wireless problem | 03:48 |
louis__ | ok,thank you very much,i see | 03:48 |
mike_ | UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times reless issues, please to be looking :) | 03:48 |
mike_ | 09:42 < profoX> Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one | 03:48 |
mike_ | 09:42 < louis__> hello | 03:48 |
mike_ | 09:42 < louis__> i am a newbie | 03:48 |
louis__ | :) | 03:49 |
wikijeff | Anyone????? | 03:49 |
mike_ | UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times , http://pastebin.ca/146994 | 03:49 |
Don_jr | I was told the netgear wg511 wireless card for a laptop is compatible with ubuntu, can anyone here confirm or deny this? | 03:49 |
profoX | louis__: welcome.. :) | 03:49 |
VitaminG | anyone here having problems with the azureus version in the repos? | 03:49 |
mike_ | Don_jr: STFW | 03:49 |
tnzr | mike: google for Automatix .. it can isntall all the video stuff you need | 03:49 |
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Don_jr | eh? | 03:49 |
profoX | VitaminG: i use ktorrent because of the java | 03:49 |
andax | mike_, www.getautomatix.com | 03:49 |
mike_ | Don_jr: search the FINE web | 03:49 |
HAL9000 | I use frostwire | 03:50 |
HAL9000 | Limewire | 03:50 |
VitaminG | profoX: I have Gnome, and I don't really want to install KDE libs | 03:50 |
Don_jr | it doesn't always produce the results you'd like to get... | 03:50 |
Don_jr | but I'll look again | 03:50 |
HAL9000 | and ktorrent | 03:50 |
Madpilot | mike_, 1. do NOT use "STFW" here. 2. Don't recommend Automatix, it breaks things... | 03:50 |
mike_ | tnzr: mmmmmm ty | 03:50 |
VitaminG | HAL9000: I'm looking for a bittorrent solution, thogh | 03:50 |
tnzr | np | 03:50 |
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profoX | VitaminG: well.. me too.. atleast kde libs + ktorrent require less memory/cpu than java + azureus :) | 03:50 |
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HAL9000 | what is ur os | 03:50 |
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mike_ | Madpilot: I didn't. and I don't see any reason to ban acronyms, seriously. | 03:51 |
VitaminG | HAL9000: Ubuntu Dapper | 03:51 |
sethk | VitaminG, the libraries aren't that large, it seems foolish not to run something just because it uses kde libraries | 03:51 |
BOBSONATOR | Does anyone here use kismet/AIRCRACK> | 03:51 |
BOBSONATOR | ? | 03:51 |
profoX | VitaminG: alot of people use torrent in wine - works perfectly - uses low ram - very fast - verrry advanced | 03:51 |
mike_ | andax: madpilot say not to use automatix ! | 03:51 |
HAL9000 | I use PCLOS | 03:51 |
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BOBSONATOR | PCLOS? | 03:51 |
louis__ | what is ismet/AIRCRACK> | 03:51 |
mike_ | profoX: last I looked it was kind of buggy... but utorrent is best | 03:51 |
HAL9000 | PCLINUXOS | 03:51 |
profoX | yes automatix breaks things. | 03:51 |
VitaminG | sethk: I have dial-up, so the KDE libs are a fairly large download for me | 03:51 |
BOBSONATOR | its a wep cracking tool | 03:51 |
mike_ | I have it going now :) | 03:51 |
tnzr | mike: if you dont want to use it, google for "codec ubuntu" or somethinhg | 03:51 |
BOBSONATOR | later guys, going to a party. | 03:51 |
profoX | mike_: torrent is great, too bad its closed source / windows | 03:52 |
sethk | VitaminG, ok, but if you need them, start the download and go to sleep | 03:52 |
louis__ | web cracking? | 03:52 |
tnzr | youll find a good page or two regarding isntalling it the manual way | 03:52 |
HAL9000 | Bittornando works well | 03:52 |
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wweasel | VitaminG: I second the recommendation of utorrent in Wine. I am torrenting somethign in utorrent right now, actually | 03:52 |
dalila | come on ps2 mice should work out of the box.... any hints on getting a new ps2 mice hp model m871 working | 03:52 |
Madpilot | mike_, it's not the acronym itself, it's that "search the f'ing web" isn't really a helpful answer... | 03:52 |
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q_a_z_steve | how do I get past the password or something if all I can get is a login prompt? | 03:53 |
andax | mike_, if you don't want to use automatix then go to www.mplayerhq.hu and follow the installation instructions, or have a look at http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html for the quick and easy way to get mplayer. It will play every multimedia content | 03:53 |
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profoX | louis__: kismet/aircrack are programs for wardriving or for checking wireless connections and/or breaking the used encryption (wep/wpa) on the networks | 03:53 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 03:53 |
wweasel | mike_: utorrent in wine is 100% stable. just has an annoying flicker. | 03:53 |
mike_ | Madpilot: It is very helpful when someone is asking something that is answered better and faster by a google search than by someone explaining things to them | 03:53 |
mike_ | wweasel: ok. last time I futzed about on utorrent forums it said it had issues. :) | 03:53 |
profoX | wweasel: yea and its ugly as hell - for the rest it works fine | 03:53 |
Madpilot | andax, recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats over autobreakix or random Google searches | 03:53 |
mike_ | who cares if it's ugly | 03:54 |
profoX | mike_: i do - its part of my desktop | 03:54 |
profoX | :) | 03:54 |
wweasel | mike_: Alot of people. | 03:54 |
VitaminG | well thanks, I'll try a few of these ideas | 03:54 |
louis__ | profox,you are a good person | 03:54 |
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toddobryan | I'm trying to set up nfs for my computer lab at school. (I teach.) I'm going through the NFS How-To, and it looks like Ubuntu isn't paying attention to hosts.deny or hosts.allow. | 03:54 |
toddobryan | Am I missing something? | 03:54 |
mike_ | profoX: you do ... what? :) | 03:54 |
profoX | louis__: lol -- thank you very much | 03:54 |
wweasel | mike_: he cares if it's ugly | 03:54 |
profoX | mike_: i do care about it being pretty | 03:54 |
blind | oh jeez. | 03:54 |
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HAL9000 | Whats everyones favorite OS | 03:54 |
wweasel | profoX: Is there any way to get it to show an icon on the taskbar? | 03:55 |
profoX | wweasel: its been a while since i last ran it -- i use ktorrent now | 03:55 |
SoCal | HAL9000, Ubuntu | 03:55 |
wweasel | profoX: How is KTorrent, compared to uTorrent? | 03:55 |
fangorious | is there a way to detect a docking station on a laptop? | 03:55 |
SoCal | or FreeBSD | 03:55 |
profoX | wweasel: it's "okay" | 03:55 |
mike_ | blind: eat me | 03:55 |
mark__ | HAL9000, xubuntu | 03:55 |
mike_ | HAL9000: mac or win for desktop, freebsd or gentoo for server | 03:55 |
mike_ | or solaris | 03:56 |
blind | mike_: follow the coc please :] | 03:56 |
mike_ | solaris is tasty | 03:56 |
louis__ | show an icon on the taskbar?you mean shortcut? | 03:56 |
profoX | wweasel: ktorrent is almost as advanced and has a built-in torrent search engine that i like | 03:56 |
louis__ | ? | 03:56 |
mike_ | blind: you started it ! >:P | 03:56 |
profoX | wweasel: and it can be extended by plugin | 03:56 |
HAL9000 | PCLINUXOS here | 03:56 |
blind | mike_: I didn't start anything. | 03:56 |
VOYAGER | fangorious, im having mixed results here with compaq m-700 | 03:56 |
wweasel | profoX: utorrent has a built in torrent search engine too. or, search bar rather. | 03:56 |
mike_ | shrug | 03:56 |
wweasel | profoX: but i'm gonna check out KTorrent. | 03:56 |
Madpilot | Folks, non-tech-support chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please... | 03:56 |
mark__ | I want to give FreeBSD a go | 03:56 |
profoX | wweasel: yea i know but i like ktorrents thing better :) search thing | 03:56 |
sethk | blind hasn't said anything for quite some time | 03:56 |
Don_jr | Okay I don't see it on the web page. can anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card is or is not compatible with Ubuntu? | 03:56 |
profoX | it has a built in HTML browser | 03:56 |
sethk | mark__, freebsd is an interesting o/s | 03:56 |
SoCal | FreeBSDis nice...especially for a server | 03:56 |
MrParanoia | is sysv-rc-conf still valid in ubuntu 6.06.1? | 03:56 |
SoCal | As for desktop, I like Ubuntu | 03:57 |
SoCal | everything works | 03:57 |
mark__ | also might give Fedora a go one day | 03:57 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, routers shouldn't care what's connecting to them... | 03:57 |
MrParanoia | or is there a different config tool available? | 03:57 |
Don_jr | it's not a router, it's the card that I want to put in my laptop | 03:57 |
SoCal | I don't care for Fedora...I dunno why...jut me | 03:57 |
louis__ | SocCal,i like ubuntu too | 03:57 |
SoCal | just me | 03:57 |
toddobryan | Anybody know anything about setting up NFS? | 03:57 |
sethk | Don_jr, I haven't tried that particular card. | 03:57 |
SoCal | lol louis__ | 03:57 |
MrParanoia | apt-get won't install it | 03:57 |
profoX | louis__: no he meant something else ;) | 03:57 |
andax | Don_jr, confirmed, it will be autodetected and will work | 03:57 |
profoX | louis__: about the icon on taskbar | 03:57 |
sethk | Don_jr, the card is not important, what you need to know is the chipset | 03:57 |
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fangorious | is there a way to configure gdm to start X with a specific ServerLayout? | 03:58 |
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sethk | Don_jr, then we can tell you whether there is support for it. | 03:58 |
Don_jr | Thanx Andax, I was told it should but wanted to double check. | 03:58 |
louis__ | i know,i am a new hand,so sorry | 03:58 |
SoCal | well...I'm out for now...see everyone another time | 03:58 |
profoX | louis__: np | 03:58 |
profoX | SoCal: later | 03:58 |
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mike_ | I can't install w32codecs ?? | 03:58 |
mike_ | it says it's a package that refers to anothe rpackage or something | 03:58 |
Don_jr | As long as I can get my wireless card to work with ubuntu I'll be in good shape. I"m goign to let it finish installing. | 03:59 |
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mike_ | Is there any Linux desktop OS that support flash, wmv, real media, quicktime etc etc out of the box ? | 03:59 |
profoX | wweasel: you might like torrent better though | 03:59 |
VOYAGER | MrParanoia, i got my info up on http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ | 03:59 |
mike_ | Don_jr: good luck!! | 03:59 |
distantbody | "mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??" | 03:59 |
toddobryan | OK. I'm going to have to use guilt...It's 10:00pm local time, and I'm sitting here in my classroom *hoping* that somebody knows something about nfs. | 04:00 |
profoX | wweasel: ktorrent has a few advantages and looks better imo but torrent seems to be faster (finds more peers?) | 04:00 |
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andax | toddobryan, what's the question about nfs? | 04:00 |
toddobryan | mike_: It would be impossible to support out of the box. They'd have to pay licensing fees probably. But you can download what you want. | 04:00 |
mike_ | distantbody: right. apt-get install doesn't install it | 04:00 |
VOYAGER | http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ | 04:00 |
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toddobryan | So, I'm going through the NFS HowTo on nfs.sourceforge.net. | 04:01 |
wweasel | profox: interesting, thanks | 04:01 |
mike_ | toddobryan: mhm. there should be a script on desktop that says "click here to install a bunch of crap you probably want to have" | 04:01 |
distantbody | "mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??" Use "ADD/REMOVE" to install mplayer, it plays win32 | 04:01 |
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profoX | wweasel: it has something to do with - i forgot how it's called, something that azureus has too ;) but ktorrent doesn't | 04:01 |
mark__ | http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper | 04:01 |
profoX | some technology to find more peers | 04:01 |
tnzr | mike: you ahve to add some new repositories, then do some apt-getting to install the multimedia stuff | 04:01 |
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toddobryan | It says to check security for portmap. I did, and hosts.deny and hosts.allow seem not to have any effect. | 04:01 |
andax | profoX, DHT? | 04:01 |
profoX | tnzr: yea but cipherfunk is down afaik | 04:01 |
profoX | andax: yea thats it.. | 04:02 |
mike_ | tnzr: this is all stuff a desktop user has ZERO interest in doing :( | 04:02 |
profoX | andax: i could be wrong about what exactly it is though? | 04:02 |
tnzr | mike: thats where you come in :) | 04:02 |
mike_ | Thought maybe Desktop LInux was ready. sadly it's not | 04:02 |
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tnzr | that clearly depends on what you mean by "ready :D | 04:02 |
Madpilot | mike_, the reasons Linux can't support Flash/mp3/etc/etc is legal, not technical. | 04:03 |
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Madpilot | can't support it out of the box, that is | 04:03 |
mike_ | Madpilot: Right. There should stil lbe an auto-install script | 04:03 |
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NemesisUK | mike_, it mostly is, just takes patience and little bit of research | 04:03 |
profoX | legal problems are the biggest problem for linux | 04:03 |
tnzr | mike: there pretty much is | 04:03 |
Madpilot | mike_, there are legal problems w/ an autoinstall script too... | 04:03 |
mark__ | mike_ their is automatix but it is dodgy | 04:03 |
mike_ | tnzr: If everyone who wants to use linux needs their own personal sysadmin, it's doomed. I cost $30/hr minimum. | 04:03 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 04:04 |
mike_ | NemesisUK: AGAIN, Joe ServicePack doesn't care :) they just want it to work | 04:04 |
Don_jr | Any aproximates on how long the install could take? | 04:04 |
dalila | totally lost on getting ps/2 mouse working plse help | 04:04 |
Madpilot | mike_, you just need a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, it's not that complex | 04:04 |
distantbody | mike_ select the "applications" menu then "Add/remove" then search for "mplayer" | 04:04 |
mike_ | Madpilot: It's complex for Joe Servicepack | 04:04 |
profoX | mike_: then linux is not for joe servicepack | 04:04 |
tnzr | mike: well I like to think that linux isnt really geared for people who require a sysadmin in order to get it up and running | 04:04 |
mike_ | distantbody: doing apt-get mplayer now. hopefully that is gmplayer | 04:04 |
NemesisUK | mike_, I just want it to work, but linux is like life and doesnt work that way | 04:04 |
Madpilot | mike_, not from what I've seen, with friends I've converted to Ubuntu... | 04:04 |
tnzr | if one cant see why using linux is advantageous, then one prolly should just stick to windows | 04:04 |
mike_ | Madpilot: still not ready. until total idiot can install everything themselves it's not ready | 04:04 |
dalila | its a [s/2 optical | 04:05 |
ali1234 | mike_: anybody who has a computer connected to the internet needs a sysadmin. OS doesn't matter | 04:05 |
mike_ | profoX: "linux for human beings" | 04:05 |
tnzr | mike: its not linux's fault that windows made idiots out of the computer using population :) | 04:05 |
profoX | Madpilot: amen.. i converted total "noobs" to ubuntu -- and they have their own questions and problems -- but everything is going smooth now | 04:05 |
Madpilot | mike_, ever done a from-bare-metal install of Windows? You've got to do far more crap to get a usable OS there than you do with a from-bare install of Ubuntu... | 04:05 |
sethk | mike_, there are enough human beings who can handle ubuntu | 04:05 |
mike_ | ali1234: not really. mac users are fine. windoze users can get by, albeit with lots of spyware and viruses | 04:05 |
andax | tnzr, lol agree on that :)) | 04:05 |
tnzr | Madpilot: hear hear | 04:05 |
sethk | mike_, ok, then let those users use windows | 04:05 |
JackMacOKC | i just installed the realplayer .bin installer from real.com. how can i uninstall it properly? | 04:05 |
mike_ | Madpilot: not with winxp | 04:05 |
sethk | mike_, linux is not instead of windows, it's better than windows | 04:05 |
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Don_jr | So the spyware and virus problems that windows has is not as great on the *nix systems? | 04:06 |
mike_ | sethk: add more to chat than just that please | 04:06 |
ISOLATEDViRuS | hey, apparently xchat was deleted when I updated the software, how do I get it back and is mIRC available for ubuntu? | 04:06 |
sethk | mike_, you're in charge, now? | 04:06 |
mike_ | sethk: depends on what "better" means. win provides better desktop experience | 04:06 |
profoX | Madpilot: i don't agree completely.. it depends what you need/seek in an OS | 04:06 |
sethk | ISOLATEDViRuS, that's odd, nothing is deleted | 04:06 |
wweasel | Yeah, honestly, I have more trouble converting users who know somewhat what they're doing than complete noobs. Complete noobs, you tell them "click here for internet, when it asks you to install updates say yes, click here to shutdown" and they're happy | 04:06 |
sethk | mike_, then use windows | 04:06 |
distantbody | JackMacOKC : Reinstall Ubuntu;) | 04:06 |
profoX | if you want to make your linux do everything windows does -- you'll have to change alot | 04:06 |
mike_ | sethk: I don't want my time wasted. actually say something if you're going to chat to me :) | 04:06 |
Madpilot | mike_, yes, with WinXP. I've done several from-bare installs of XP, it's unusable by default. No word processor, a crap browser, no codecs... | 04:06 |
tnzr | mike: use a Mac, it kills windows in "desktop usability" | 04:06 |
h00t | can someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it | 04:06 |
profoX | the reverse is true too | 04:06 |
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sethk | mike_, I decide what I want to say, not you. | 04:06 |
mike_ | Madpilot: yes. but installing these thins is simpler | 04:06 |
wweasel | mike_: stop being an ass. | 04:06 |
tehsu | tnzr: very true | 04:06 |
profoX | wweasel: amen | 04:06 |
mike_ | sethk: ok, you're ignored now | 04:07 |
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profoX | wweasel: to the converting :) | 04:07 |
JackMacOKC | distantbody: joking aside | 04:07 |
sethk | mike_, I'm crushed. :) | 04:07 |
tehsu | mike_: go away | 04:07 |
Madpilot | mike_, not really, and you've got to isntall far MORE stuff to get XP useable | 04:07 |
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tehsu | ^^ what he said | 04:07 |
sethk | somebody ban this guy? :) | 04:07 |
ISOLATEDViRuS | sec im checking it | 04:07 |
mark__ | Madpilot, so true | 04:07 |
wweasel | I second what madpilot said. | 04:07 |
tnzr | not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need | 04:07 |
Madpilot | sethk, he's almost earned that... | 04:07 |
mike_ | tehsu: blow me | 04:07 |
profoX | sethk: not yet.. | 04:07 |
xepher | Madpilot got it on the spot. | 04:07 |
tehsu | mike_: only windows users would like to do that | 04:07 |
Don_jr | I won't have the problems with spyware and virus's in unix for browsing around? That sounds nice. | 04:07 |
sethk | Madpilot, that last comment? | 04:07 |
h00t | can someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it | 04:08 |
Madpilot | mike_, last warning. Be civil, or be banned. | 04:08 |
mike_ | Madpilot: true, but it is easier to do on windows than linux, for most things | 04:08 |
profoX | mike_: I suggest you be a little more friendly -- unless you really want to get banned here -- you're really not helping here | 04:08 |
mike_ | Madpilot: I'm being plenty "CIVIL" | 04:08 |
Don_jr | I just want to try it out. Been using windows for ever and I"m tired of the microsoft monopoly. | 04:08 |
sethk | h00t, do you know the process name? | 04:08 |
wweasel | Don_jr: Nope, no spyware, nothing on your computer that you didn't want. | 04:08 |
distantbody | "not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need" NLITE FTW! | 04:08 |
h00t | no idea | 04:08 |
neil__ | I would like to migrate a windows app to Linux, it appears the app is using MSSQL7 for it data backend, can MSSQL7 databases be read by Linux directly? | 04:08 |
sethk | h00t, do ps aux, see what name looks likely. Hopefully you'll be able to spot it. | 04:08 |
h00t | i did "ps -l" but it won't show | 04:08 |
Don_jr | That's great. I"m liking this more and more. And Iv'e heard it's fairly simple to run a web server on a unix system aswell? | 04:08 |
sethk | h00t, not ps -l. ps aux | 04:08 |
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Don_jr | apache I believe was the name used? | 04:09 |
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wweasel | don_jr: there are plenty of good tutorials on setting up apache, yes | 04:09 |
Miek | Don_jr: i prefer lighttpd :p | 04:09 |
profoX | h00t: also try: sudo killall process-name | 04:09 |
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profoX | h00t: sudo killall emule | 04:09 |
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profoX | for instance | 04:09 |
mike_ | Don_jr: it's simple to do that on any system, but you'd be well advised to use a seperate computer for your server. you don't want personal inof etc on a globally accessible machine | 04:09 |
sethk | Don_jr, yes, apache is the most popular web server | 04:09 |
sethk | Don_jr, there are others, as well | 04:09 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, you can run Apache easily on Ubuntu - it's a complex app, though | 04:09 |
sethk | Don_jr, I use apache, have for years | 04:09 |
mike_ | Don_jr: I'd recommned "abyss" web server | 04:09 |
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Don_jr | Only thing that get's me is how much am I going to have to learn to program in c or any other language to make things work. | 04:09 |
tnzr | Don_jr: none. | 04:10 |
sethk | Don_jr, no you don't | 04:10 |
mike_ | Don_jr: you don't have to be able to program | 04:10 |
sethk | Don_jr, what gave you that idea? | 04:10 |
Don_jr | no more compiling to add new programs? | 04:10 |
tnzr | Don_jr: but if you know any programming, you can have a lot of fun in linux | 04:10 |
neil__ | Don_jr: I beleave there are more apache web-servers on the internet than all the others combined. | 04:10 |
mike_ | Don_jr: you do need to be able to use a lot of logic and reasoning skills. | 04:10 |
h00t | thank you it worked | 04:10 |
sethk | Don_jr, I encourage you to learn, because you can save work, but it is optional | 04:10 |
Sarra_ | I wanna learn C | 04:10 |
h00t | can i do that in debian | 04:10 |
cfedde | Sarra_: go for it! | 04:10 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, there's 18000 packages in Ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile. Besides, you don't need to know programming to compile, actually. | 04:10 |
mike_ | Don_jr: are you sure you're not trolling | 04:10 |
tehsu | theme | 04:10 |
sethk | Sarra_, C is actually an easy language, don't be aafraid of it. | 04:10 |
tehsu | er | 04:10 |
distantbody | I'm running windows on Ubuntu right now, with a second instance of Ubuntu axting as a server, Thanks to VMWare:) | 04:10 |
Don_jr | reading books about linux/unix the cshel, sshell and compiling things..... | 04:10 |
tnzr | Don_jr: you may have to compile a program here and there but its not difficult | 04:10 |
profoX | Don_jr: to get Really into linux, a bit of bash knowledge might help ;) but for the rest you don't have to learn anything | 04:10 |
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wweasel | Opinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion? | 04:10 |
Don_jr | trolling? | 04:11 |
xepher | ... | 04:11 |
sethk | Don_jr, don't use cshell, it's old and awful | 04:11 |
tnzr | you dont have to know how to program to build a package, usually you just have to type "make; make install" | 04:11 |
Don_jr | bash? | 04:11 |
profoX | mike_: are You sure you're not trolling :) | 04:11 |
sethk | Don_jr, bash is good, and zsh is even better | 04:11 |
nich0s | Hey allz, I would just like to say Ubuntu rocks my face off... | 04:11 |
Madpilot | ubotu, tell Don_jr about cli | 04:11 |
nich0s | That is all. | 04:11 |
wweasel | Don_jr: Bash is the command line in Linux | 04:11 |
sethk | anybody here who uses ignore is trolling by definition | 04:11 |
profoX | Don_jr: bash is the language that you write on the "terminal" | 04:11 |
mike_ | profoX: uh, no. no idea how you would even think that. | 04:11 |
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profoX | mike_: just asking ;) | 04:11 |
JackMacOKC | nich0s: well how do you see then? | 04:11 |
mike_ | is there a way to do like the hardware configuration that happens at install again? | 04:11 |
sethk | Don_jr, bash is one option to use as the command line in ubuntu | 04:11 |
mike_ | profoX: heh, ok :-) | 04:11 |
Don_jr | similar to dos? kinda like ls for list files, I read that somewhere | 04:11 |
Sarra_ | I'm learning Java, so C should be easy to pick up in the future | 04:12 |
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sethk | wweasel, it's inaccurate to say bash is "the command line". just one option | 04:12 |
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Madpilot | Don_jr, similar - see the PM that ubotu just sent you | 04:12 |
profoX | Don_jr: yes, but bash is way better and more complex | 04:12 |
tnzr | Don_jr: ls is a command, bash is the shell in which you execute that command | 04:12 |
sethk | Don_jr, I run zsh in windows because the windows shell is so awful, but I suppose there are similarities | 04:12 |
wweasel | sethk: yep, an oversimplification. | 04:12 |
Don_jr | oh sheesh, didn't even notice it. | 04:12 |
tnzr | Don_jr: kind of like how COmmand.com is the shell you execute the "dir" command in at a dos promp | 04:12 |
tnzr | t | 04:12 |
distantbody | Bourne-Again SHell a pun (Bourne again / born again) on the Bourne shell (sh) - an early, important Unix shell written by Stephen Bourne and distributed with Version 7 Unix, circa 1978. bash was created in 1987 by Brian Fox. In 1990, Chet Ramey became the primary maintainer. | 04:12 |
sethk | wweasel, zsh is so good, and many people don't even know they have choices. | 04:12 |
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mike_ | sethk: ooh. interesting. I use cygwin install to get a usable shell.... | 04:12 |
mike_ | so no one has a clue about my wireless problem ? | 04:13 |
sethk | mike_, cygwin shell is bash, but you can also run it with zsh | 04:13 |
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wweasel | nope | 04:13 |
tnzr | mike: whats the wireless problem? | 04:13 |
Don_jr | thanx for that link. I'll be bookmarking that | 04:13 |
tnzr | sorry I didnt see you talking about it earlier | 04:13 |
Don_jr | tnzr thanx, that makes sense | 04:13 |
wweasel | Opinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion? | 04:13 |
VOYAGER | mike_, i tried you wouldnt listen | 04:13 |
tnzr | Don_jr: no prob | 04:13 |
nich0s | JackMacOKC, It doesn't rick my head off, nor my tendons, muscles, or eyes, | 04:13 |
nich0s | JackMacOKC, Just the flesh making up my face. | 04:13 |
louis__ | how can i get a process's pid? for example,i run xmms,then how can i know the process used by xmms and the pid.use command top? | 04:13 |
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JackMacOKC | nich0s: :) | 04:13 |
tnzr | louis__: ps -ef |grep xmms | 04:13 |
sethk | louis__, ps aux | grep xmms | 04:13 |
wweasel | sethk: What do you use to rip CDs? | 04:14 |
Don_jr | Okay, being a windows idget all my life. How will learning to program in bash, c, what ever language is needed make things better for me? | 04:14 |
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profoX | louis__: ps -e|grep xmms | 04:14 |
sethk | wweasel, I still use cdrecord and utilities to create the image | 04:14 |
profoX | ok enough options to choose from | 04:14 |
wweasel | Don_jr: It's not necessary to learn how to program in bash or anything. | 04:14 |
Sarra_ | Unless you're creating your own apps, it won't help at all Don_jr | 04:14 |
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JackMacOKC | Don_jr: becuase then you can effectively compile and repair things, everything | 04:14 |
louis__ | thanks very much:) | 04:14 |
Don_jr | ok | 04:14 |
sethk | ps has many options because both the bsd and system V syntax is supported | 04:14 |
nich0s | JackMacOKC, So gimme stuff to play with that will make me love it even more. I will even take interesting reading. :P | 04:14 |
tnzr | Don_jr: you only need to know how to program in bash if you want to write scripts to automate certain tasks | 04:14 |
Don_jr | so it's more for trouble shooting than anything at this point? | 04:14 |
madman- | i installed freepops but i dont know if it's started or running. how can i know these things ? | 04:14 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, small bash scripts can be helpful for stuff you do repeatedly, but really, you can use Ubuntu without learning anything beyond very basic command line stuff | 04:14 |
Sarra_ | What the heck | 04:15 |
mike_ | VOYAGER: You said "login as sudo". I was promoptly informed by twelve other people in channel that you were full of crap | 04:15 |
Nameless | help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ? | 04:15 |
distantbody | Don_jr You need to learn how to COMMAND you computer, not program for it... | 04:15 |
Don_jr | great | 04:15 |
JackMacOKC | nich0s: sudo apt-get install streamtuner | 04:15 |
sethk | madman-, ps aux will show you running processes | 04:15 |
Sarra_ | I unplugged my laptop, and now I have a power meter? Why didn't this ever show up before? | 04:15 |
Don_jr | okay | 04:15 |
madman- | looking | 04:15 |
tnzr | Don_jr: its not for troubleshooting but it can be.. you can do all sorts of stuff with bash once you get good at it.. but its not a requirement. lots of weathered *nix users dont know the first thing about shell scripting | 04:15 |
profoX | mike_: code of conduct please | 04:15 |
VOYAGER | if you want to change those settings you must be as ubuntus root which is su | 04:15 |
mike_ | http://pastebin.ca/146994 | 04:15 |
tnzr | mike: what are you trying to do and what kind of card is it | 04:15 |
sethk | shell scripting saves a lot of work, frequently, but you can survive easily without it. | 04:15 |
Nameless | help :\ | 04:16 |
wikijeff | Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks! | 04:16 |
mike_ | tnzr: http://pastbin.ca/146994 that is all the details you should need | 04:16 |
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tnzr | VOYAGER: ubuntus' root user is "root" .. su is a command used to become another user (usually to become root) | 04:16 |
mark__ | ack | 04:16 |
JackMacOKC | Nameless: which key? | 04:16 |
Don_jr | Okay so I could tell it that when I open firefox it automatically logs me into gaim at the same time? things like that? | 04:16 |
tnzr | mike: looking | 04:16 |
louis__ | yeah,i got it!thanks! | 04:16 |
mike_ | VOYAGER: what other guy say. see above | 04:16 |
VOYAGER | tnzr if your so smart help him | 04:16 |
Nameless | the key for Xgl | 04:16 |
distantbody | Sarra System>preferences>power management | 04:16 |
tnzr | VOYAGER: im trying :) | 04:16 |
VOYAGER | dont critisize | 04:16 |
tnzr | i didnt criticize, I just informed you so you wouldnt go around thinking the wrong thing :) | 04:17 |
nich0s | JackMacOKC, Wassat? | 04:17 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, you could create a little script that starts both firefox & gaim when you run it, yeah | 04:17 |
VOYAGER | he wont change it as the user | 04:17 |
Don_jr | Okay, that's cool. Deffinatly couldn't do that with any ease in windows XP | 04:17 |
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JackMacOKC | nich0s: its the command to install the package streamtuner. in a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install streamtuner' to install the streamtuner program | 04:17 |
madman- | sethk: ok found it. it's running. very nice, thank you | 04:17 |
mike_ | Uhm, unless I miss something, there is no root user in ubuntu. the first user acct created has full sudo rights though. | 04:17 |
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erika | hi :) | 04:17 |
tehsu | mike_: bad card | 04:18 |
tnzr | mike: is your card eth1? eth0? | 04:18 |
mike_ | tehsu: No, it works in another machine. | 04:18 |
profoX | erika: hi | 04:18 |
mike_ | tnzr: wlan0 | 04:18 |
distantbody | For those who need to learn how to do simple linux commands, I highly recommend Tuxfiles.com | 04:18 |
tnzr | mike: id root | 04:18 |
tehsu | mike_: not supported very well | 04:18 |
profoX | mike_: there is aroot user but it has no password by default iirc | 04:18 |
tehsu | mike_: and root is in ubuntu | 04:18 |
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erika | ty profoX | 04:18 |
mike_ | tehsu: google sez it works | 04:18 |
tehsu | mike_: driver | 04:18 |
Nameless | super key = left win key | 04:18 |
tnzr | mike: iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed | 04:18 |
tnzr | that will take it out of ad-hoc mode | 04:18 |
mike_ | profoX: ok, my point is, there is no 'su' user or whatever VOYAGER was tellin gme | 04:18 |
Nameless | how i can enable it ? | 04:18 |
sethk | tehsu, that's correct, su in ubuntu is the same as all other distros | 04:18 |
mike_ | tnzr: ty, I think that what I need.... I can't get it out of adhoc, I try now | 04:18 |
madman- | distantbody: thank you | 04:18 |
tehsu | sethk: yup | 04:19 |
sethk | and there _is_ a root password for all the install options except desktop | 04:19 |
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tnzr | mike_: is your wireless router running dhcp? | 04:19 |
nich0s | JackMacOKC, I got that much, but what is the "streamtuner" program? | 04:19 |
Morpse | I | 04:19 |
tnzr | i use root even as desktop | 04:19 |
mike_ | tnzr: yes | 04:19 |
JackMacOKC | nich0s: you said you wanted to see something cool. so install it and see | 04:19 |
mike_ | tnzr: laptop right by this one use wifi now | 04:19 |
tehsu | sudo passwd root set new passwd and then u can become root | 04:19 |
sethk | that is, the root password is set during install for other installation types | 04:19 |
madman- | the madman runs over to tuxfiles.com | 04:19 |
distantbody | you don't need to useapt-get, Synaptic is much better for the command line-disinclined | 04:19 |
tnzr | mike: ok what kind of encryption is your router using? | 04:19 |
Morpse | I've got a gateway tablet pc, is there a driver to get the pen working? | 04:19 |
tnzr | mike: WEP/WPA2/etc? | 04:19 |
Nameless | (04:16) <JackMacOKC> Nameless: which key? <--- left win key | 04:20 |
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sethk | Morpse, there are a couple of tablet drivers. do you know the internals? | 04:20 |
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mike_ | tnzr: can you see the private messagee ? | 04:20 |
tnzr | yes | 04:20 |
distantbody | tnzr, oblig YOUR CRAZY comment...;) | 04:20 |
mike_ | ok | 04:20 |
sethk | Morpse, analogous to knowing that a touchpad is a particular type | 04:20 |
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mike_ | I'm rebooting mike's machine | 04:20 |
mike_ | usb light not on | 04:20 |
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tnzr | distantbody: hehe how come :) | 04:20 |
tnzr | ok | 04:20 |
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wikijeff | Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks! | 04:21 |
Morpse | XP calls it a Finepoint inovations tablet | 04:21 |
birdfish | So how is the new Ubuntu Server 6.0 LTS? | 04:21 |
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birdfish | I'm at college and haven't been home in a while to install and test it out :( | 04:21 |
mcquaid | hello, i just put a new drive and created about a 70 gig partition (ext3) but its already reporting some used | 04:21 |
distantbody | tnzr: are you SERIOUS!? | 04:21 |
tnzr | distantbody: about what? | 04:21 |
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mcquaid | /dev/hdd2 71G 129M 68G 1% /mnt/newlin | 04:21 |
sethk | birdfish, it's fine, but I recommend installing breezy, and waiting a few weeks more for dapper | 04:21 |
nickv111 | Hello. I'm using multiverse, and I'm wondering, where is sun-java5-bin? | 04:21 |
nomasteryoda | mcquaid, that is the file system | 04:21 |
nickv111 | apt-cache search doesn't turn it up | 04:21 |
JackMacOKC | Nameless: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard | 04:21 |
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forbidden_fruit | how do i find out the amount of free space on a drive in ubuntu? is there a partition manager? | 04:21 |
nomasteryoda | some will be used | 04:21 |
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mcquaid | nothing is there, and how does 129m make a 3 gig difference | 04:22 |
Jamminpotato | i <3 ubuntu | 04:22 |
birdfish | sethk: so 6.06 is Dapper then? | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | forbidden_fruit, df -Th | 04:22 |
madman- | distantbody: just a little help, thats all a person needs. very nice site @_@ | 04:22 |
sethk | birdfish, right | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | simple command | 04:22 |
Nameless | JackMacOKC: i don't use Gnome, i use Xfce4 | 04:22 |
distantbody | tnzr: Do you really login as root by default?... | 04:22 |
Nameless | :\ | 04:22 |
erika | I haven't been here in a couple of months... switched from winders to ubuntu at the intro of breezy... been banging my hammer on my PC for a while now. Most things work... thought I'd pop in and ask a few ? :) | 04:22 |
forbidden_fruit | nomasteryoda: that command? | 04:22 |
forbidden_fruit | ty | 04:22 |
profoX | birdfish: yes 6.06 is dapper drake | 04:22 |
birdfish | sethk: Upgrading from Breezy server to Dapper shouldn't be a problem later, should it? | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | ya | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | np | 04:22 |
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tnzr | distantbody: yeah or I su - to root whenever I need to do root things | 04:22 |
mcquaid | nomasteryoda, doesn't something look wrong there in it reported 129 used yet 71G vs 68G? | 04:22 |
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sethk | birdfish, it's easy to upgrade | 04:22 |
JackMacOKC | Nameless: sorry, then i cant help you there. you should specify these things when asking your question, fyi. | 04:22 |
profoX | birdfish: it shouldn't, but you never know (certain hardware problems etc) | 04:22 |
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quintin | nickv111: search for 'jre' in synaptic and you'll find it | 04:23 |
birdfish | sethk: I was just looking forward to having an automated LAMP installer =) | 04:23 |
birdfish | Which brings me to my next point | 04:23 |
forbidden_fruit | ty nomasteryoda | 04:23 |
forbidden_fruit | :) | 04:23 |
sethk | birdfish, you can install that version if you don't mind a few minor glitches | 04:23 |
nickv111 | quintin: I did. I can't install it | 04:23 |
birdfish | Is the automated LAMP installer packaged with Apache 1.3 or 2.2? | 04:23 |
tnzr | distantbody: i dont like having to type sudo in front of every command I do as root.. im too fast, I need my own root shell | 04:23 |
supernix | I thought about installing ubuntu but when I went to try and install ubuntu-desktop it gave a warning about breaking but did not say what it would break | 04:23 |
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nickv111 | quintin: It doesn't seem to exist in my collection of packages, or apt would turn it up | 04:23 |
sethk | birdfish, hash to be v2 | 04:23 |
Nameless | (04:15) <Nameless> help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ? | 04:23 |
Nameless | i have specified | 04:23 |
Nameless | :\ | 04:23 |
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sethk | supernix, give us the exact message, we'll tell you what it means | 04:24 |
supernix | oh I also am the proud owner of the Official Ubuntu Linux book | 04:24 |
lupine_85 | question about ubuntu's various kernels | 04:24 |
distantbody | tnzr: Yeah, well everyone needs to use "superuser do" (sudo) | 04:24 |
tnzr | distantbody: I dont run X as root and sit around as root when im just computing in general :) | 04:24 |
Don_jr | so how much work will I be doing out of the shell instead of in the desktop like view? | 04:24 |
birdfish | sethk: hash (meaning open up the package config and manually set?) | 04:24 |
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Morpse | is the book worth getting if you already have the hacks book? | 04:24 |
Don_jr | and what is 'X'? | 04:24 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, not much, unless you break something ;) | 04:24 |
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supernix | sethk: it does not give any message just said break how can I find out what the message might be ? | 04:24 |
tehsu | Whats a good desktop monitor? | 04:24 |
sethk | birdfish, was that pointed at me? | 04:24 |
lupine_85 | would a kernel built for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ? | 04:24 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, X is the desktop/graphical server | 04:24 |
birdfish | sethk: I'm coming from BSD land =P It's been a really long time since I've installed ubuntu =) | 04:24 |
mcquaid | so ext3 always takes 129 megs? | 04:24 |
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birdfish | sethk: yep. I just wanted to clarify what you meant by "hash" | 04:25 |
mcquaid | seems like a lot for the filesystem | 04:25 |
sethk | supernix, it can't just say break things, it has to say something about what you are doing. Do you mean during the boot loader installation? | 04:25 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 04:25 |
Don_jr | server? so X is what i"m looking at during this ubuntu install, that looks similar to windows? | 04:25 |
sethk | birdfish, sorry, typo, I meant has to be v2 | 04:25 |
profoX | mcquaid: i think it reserves a percentage of your available space instead of a solid value.. | 04:25 |
distantbody | tnzr: Oh, I thought thats what you meant...:) | 04:25 |
sethk | Don_jr, well, similar is in the eye of the beholder, but it's the gui | 04:25 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, "the X server" is the base of the whole graphical enviroment in Linux, more or less. | 04:25 |
tnzr | hehe | 04:25 |
birdfish | sethk: Ah, sweet, thanks. And also, if you don't mind... What are a couple of the biggest bugs I might find in Dapper? | 04:25 |
sethk | Don_jr, X is the gui, gnome (or kde) (typically) is the desktop | 04:25 |
profoX | mcquaid: you can override it but thats not advised | 04:25 |
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supernix | nah | 04:26 |
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sethk | birdfish, there seem to be cases where the install doesn't complete. very few, but a few. | 04:26 |
Morpse | Don_jr, think of linux more windows 3.1 and dos. X is the gui that runs over the consol | 04:26 |
supernix | I was running adept and trying to do an install while running Kubuntu | 04:26 |
mcquaid | profoX, i guess i'll leave it, but what does it reserve it for? | 04:26 |
Don_jr | okay, sorry to be a dope, what's the difference between 'gnome' and the 'gui' it's self. | 04:26 |
birdfish | sethk: Hm... Sounds like Windows =P | 04:26 |
Don_jr | so gnome it's self is running X and X is what I see? | 04:26 |
tnzr | gnome is a window manager for X | 04:26 |
sethk | Don_jr, gui is a generic term, graphical user interface | 04:26 |
birdfish | I'm excited! :D | 04:26 |
VOYAGER | birdfish, ive had 2 fail to a command line because of video | 04:26 |
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distantbody | GUI = graphical user interface | 04:26 |
tnzr | Don_jr: if you installed X without a window manager, youd start it up and see a black/white crosshatched pattern as the background with a little "x" mouse cursor | 04:27 |
Morpse | gnome is the windows manager, gnome runs on top of X to give buttons and window borders and the like | 04:27 |
sethk | Don_jr, a desktop is software that runs on a gui | 04:27 |
profoX | mcquaid: i'm not sure how it works - you should google on it - or check the man page | 04:27 |
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distantbody | GUI is a very generic term... | 04:27 |
tnzr | Don_jr: then you run something like gnome or KDE or Fluxbox or what have you, and suddenly it becomes pretty | 04:27 |
erika | I got a letter from the ntsb today informing me that somebody stole a laptop that had the names, ss numbers and a whole lot of "identity theft applicable" data on it. That got me to wondering... is Linux still as secure as it was last november? | 04:27 |
lupine_85 | erm, rephrasing... would a kernel *module* compiled with linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 run under linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 ? | 04:27 |
mcquaid | btw, this disks-admin utility, I enabled the partitions there. It doesn't seem to touch fstab, does this survive a reboot? | 04:27 |
sethk | Don_jr, in windows that distinction doesn't exist, unix is more more intelligently layered | 04:27 |
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Don_jr | oh wow, I got lot's to learn. | 04:27 |
sethk | s/more more/much more/ | 04:27 |
birdfish | VOYAGER: so you issued a graphical command without having X installed? Or you didn't install X and issuing any command crashes the system anyhow? | 04:27 |
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sethk | can't type | 04:27 |
mcquaid | it would be nice if there is a gui means of permenately enabled partitions without hacking fstab | 04:27 |
profoX | mcquaid: check your pm | 04:27 |
Madpilot | erika, I don't get the connection between a stolen NTSB laptop & Ubuntu? | 04:27 |
Don_jr | so X is the shell of the 'gui' per se? | 04:27 |
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profoX | oh damn im not logged in | 04:28 |
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Madpilot | Don_jr, more or less | 04:28 |
sethk | birdfish, I think he just means that a couple of apps didn't run for him | 04:28 |
VOYAGER | x wouldnt install because of video failed to cli | 04:28 |
tnzr | mcquaid: theyre out there IT hink.. ive seen gui fdisk managers & stuff | 04:28 |
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Don_jr | ok | 04:28 |
mcquaid | profoX, pm? | 04:28 |
mcquaid | do you mean parted? | 04:28 |
sethk | mcquaid, pm is private message | 04:28 |
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sethk | mcquaid, an IRC thing | 04:28 |
nickv111 | For some reason, sun-java5-bin doesn't exist in my repository | 04:28 |
profoX` | mcquaid: no i mean private message in irc -- hold on | 04:28 |
nickv111 | s/repository/apt cache | 04:28 |
sethk | nickv111, doesn't exist in mine, either | 04:28 |
mcquaid | thats what I thought at first, but i have no pm | 04:28 |
birdfish | VOYAGER: Ah, I see. I'm pretty sure that I won't be running X from the start anyhow, but I would hope something that major would be patched quickly anyhow | 04:29 |
distantbody | mcquaid: It can all be found under System>administator | 04:29 |
nickv111 | sethk: I'm in multiverse | 04:29 |
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nickv111 | sethk: Know why that would be? | 04:29 |
BSG75 | hi how do I make ndiswrapper work with ubuntu please? it is already installed and the windows driver is already installed .. however ubuntu thinks it has setup my nic correctly under eth0 .. I have done modprobe ndiswrapper .. but I don't see wlan0 | 04:29 |
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VOYAGER | birdfish, ok | 04:29 |
wweasel | Help please? I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. (yes, the volume is on, yes sound works in other programs) | 04:29 |
sethk | nickv111, I downloaded from sun.java.com instead of using the package manager. the package does exist; I don't know the repository | 04:29 |
sethk | nickv111, there are things not in the "official" repositories | 04:29 |
Don_jr | sheesh this looks confusing...what's with the dw--w--d-d in front of the file names? | 04:29 |
sethk | Don_jr, d means directory | 04:29 |
birdfish | I've just noted the vibrant green warning about a patch fix (error). Sounds like they might have fixed part of the X system earlier today. | 04:30 |
sethk | Don_jr, the privileges are for owner, group, and other | 04:30 |
sethk | Don_jr, r is read priv, w is write priv, x is execute priv | 04:30 |
VOYAGER | yeah | 04:30 |
erika | Madpilot... I'm a professional pilot. I assume the reason they contacted me was that the laptop belonged to an faa employee that lost his/her laptop. The laptop was florida pilot specific. | 04:30 |
mcquaid | so is there a way gui of keeping a partition mounted (survive reboots) without mucking with fstab? not sure if disks-admin does this | 04:30 |
distantbody | Don_jr: GOTO http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html | 04:30 |
Madpilot | Don_jr, read/write/execute privs - basically, who is allowed to do what w/ the file | 04:30 |
profoX` | mcphail: so 5% is reserved by default to avoid fragmentation and for processes like syslogd to keep functioning and to have space reserved for su | 04:30 |
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louis__ | tell you a piece good news,i have just received a parcel of ubuntu live cd Version 6.06 sent by from the Netherlands,hoho,hehe | 04:30 |
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Don_jr | wow....this is gonna get fun | 04:30 |
taychouri-a | WADDUPP!! I need an mp3 decoder | 04:30 |
ISOLATEDViRuS | WHATUP!! | 04:31 |
taychouri-a | lol | 04:31 |
nich0s | taychouri-a, I bet you do :P | 04:31 |
valehru_ | Is there any firewall in ubuntu that gives you notifications of what is trying to access the network, and you can deny or approve it? Much along the lines of Zone Alarm in windows (yuck) | 04:31 |
taychouri-a | ;P | 04:31 |
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Madpilot | erika, well, unless your Ubuntu system password was on that laptop, it's not going to affect your Ubuntu install - or anyone else's | 04:31 |
nalpha | guys there is flash creator like macromedia flash in windows for ubuntu? | 04:31 |
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ISOLATEDViRuS | SOUP'D! | 04:31 |
birdfish | louis__: That's awesome. I'm just now setting up an account so that I can have a bunch of cd's shipped to me. I'm going to hand them out around campus =) | 04:31 |
taychouri-a | nich0s: so fo real i need one | 04:31 |
erika | Madpilot... you fly? | 04:31 |
nickv111 | sethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/sun-java5-bin | 04:31 |
lupine_85 | nobody know? Or am I just going to have to test it? :( | 04:31 |
sethk | nickv111, thanks | 04:31 |
Tonren | How do I find out which user a process is running as? | 04:31 |
nickv111 | sethk: It's in the repository. It's just not in my cache for some odd reason | 04:31 |
profoX` | lupine_85: what? | 04:31 |
sethk | nickv111, Might need to update | 04:32 |
lupine_85 | "would a kernel modulebuilt for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?" | 04:32 |
Madpilot | erika, yeah, PPL, working on CPL | 04:32 |
sethk | nickv111, the cache, not your system | 04:32 |
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BSG75 | anyone here knows how to get ndiswrapper to work ? | 04:32 |
profoX` | lupine_85: no - i don't think so | 04:32 |
nickv111 | sethk: I've already done "apt-get update" multiple times | 04:32 |
louis__ | good idea! | 04:32 |
louis__ | birdfish | 04:32 |
eternalswd | nickv111, do you have security updates in your sources? | 04:32 |
nickv111 | eternalswd: No. | 04:32 |
lupine_85 | sulk | 04:32 |
nickv111 | eternalswd: Is that necessary? | 04:32 |
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nickv111 | eternalswd: If so, thanks! | 04:32 |
birdfish | BSG75: is that the nvidia wrapper? | 04:32 |
profoX` | birdfish: no | 04:33 |
eternalswd | nickv111, I have a newer version, so it might be I don't know | 04:33 |
erika | Madpilot... I'm not worried about my install... I'm just curious about the present state of linux security. | 04:33 |
lupine_85 | ah well, thanks for the answer :) | 04:33 |
BSG75 | birdfish: no it's to get wireless nic to work | 04:33 |
profoX` | birdfish: its the wireless driver wrapper | 04:33 |
tehsu | How can i monitor and utilize | 04:33 |
sethk | erika, the safety of linux is really unknown, as it isn't strongly attacked. vandals like to attach where they do the most damage | 04:33 |
tehsu | the cpu | 04:33 |
birdfish | Ah, see, it's been a hella long time since I've run graphical in *nix land | 04:33 |
tehsu | and turn down the voltage | 04:33 |
Madpilot | erika, "much better than MS's security", is the short version | 04:33 |
profoX` | birdfish: to wrap wireless windows network drivers and make them usable on linux | 04:33 |
birdfish | Ah, never ran into wireless issues either. But now that I'm getting a lappy, I might :D | 04:33 |
BSG75 | I wish dapper didn't try to install wireless like the older version .. now I don't know howto take off eth0 that it thinks I need | 04:33 |
valehru_ | birdfish, then how are you running IRC? | 04:33 |
VOYAGER | BSG75, shure the card needs ndis wrapper / | 04:33 |
BSG75 | and I can't get wlan0 either | 04:33 |
sethk | tehsu, that's part of power management. the utilities themselves are ... I think of it ... | 04:33 |
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BSG75 | under iwconfig .. I can configure the card | 04:34 |
birdfish | valehru_: Windows terminal on a college campus? 0_o | 04:34 |
sethk | BSG75, bring up the network administration tool and disable that interface | 04:34 |
sethk | BSG75, it's easy to turn one off | 04:34 |
valehru_ | Ahh | 04:34 |
erika | Oh... and I'm se com inst and atp me, cfii, fe-tj cfii | 04:34 |
taychouri-a | I need an Mp3 decoder, anyone wanan help me out | 04:34 |
nickv111 | BIBA | 04:34 |
BSG75 | thanks I am looking into it right now sethk | 04:34 |
nickv111 | BIAB* | 04:34 |
Don_jr | wow, that link is great on teh common commands. Thanx alot I'll be refferencing it often in the next couple of days | 04:34 |
tehsu | sethk: well my gpu fan is running like crazy and its draining the battery much quicker than it should | 04:34 |
birdfish | valehru_: lol, why would I need to be running wireless to utilize IRC? | 04:34 |
BSG75 | afk | 04:34 |
supernix | does anyone know why adept has the word break when you try to install ubuntu-desktop ? | 04:34 |
nich0s | taychouri-a, I would if I knew the first thing about this OS. :P | 04:34 |
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Madpilot | Don_jr, the BasicCommands one? glad it works :) | 04:35 |
valehru_ | birdfish, I just read about you not running graphically | 04:35 |
der0b | taychouri-a: have you checked the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki? | 04:35 |
taychouri-a | thanks nich0s | 04:35 |
valehru_ | birdfish, nothing about wireless... | 04:35 |
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lupine_85 | profox: I'm repo'ing some binary kernel modules, and all these different compiled-for versions are getting on my nerves | 04:35 |
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bruenig | how would one schedule an even to happen with crontab. I am aware of how to format the line, but can you just edit the crontab file directly or is there some other way you must go about it | 04:35 |
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birdfish | valehru_: Ah. That's just with my servers. Most of my desktops have been windows stations (mainly because I have to run so much windows only software on campus :/ ) | 04:36 |
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xepher | anyone know of a program that can browse/edit/add files to ext2/3 filesystems under windows? | 04:36 |
birdfish | valehru_: it sucks, I know :) | 04:36 |
sethk | bruenig, you can edit it. I believe a front end exists also | 04:36 |
lupine_85 | crontab -e works well | 04:36 |
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Elda | Hello | 04:36 |
sethk | xepher, once drivers for ext2/3 are installed, you use the same tools as for any other files on windows | 04:36 |
nich0s | xepher, YES! | 04:36 |
sethk | xepher, windows exploder, for example | 04:36 |
Sitouh | I am trying to get my wireless card to connect to a WPA network. I've installed Network Manager, but it's still not giving me WPA as a connection option | 04:36 |
Elda | Windows exploded? | 04:36 |
valehru_ | birdfish, indeed it does...but there comes a rare time when windows is needed....thats why I have a disk here somewhere...thank god that that rare time has never happened | 04:36 |
zengxiaolong | hello | 04:37 |
xepher | sethk, where can i find these drivers? i need to backup some files from windows-> linux | 04:37 |
erika | According to CBS news in USA tonight one third of all US computers are hijacked by progs that transmit keystrokes and other user data to crooks. | 04:37 |
sethk | xepher, I don't have the URL, anybody here know the url for downloading ext2/3 drivers for windows? | 04:37 |
viator_ | Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module | 04:37 |
sethk | xepher, I'll do a quick search. | 04:37 |
xepher | sethk, same | 04:37 |
viator_ | how do i get rid of that | 04:37 |
birdfish | valehru_: =) Lucky you. What other operating systems do you run? (other than ubuntu) Any BSD's or other flavors that you really like? | 04:37 |
nich0s | xepher, I'll get you the name of my proggie, one sec. | 04:37 |
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valehru_ | the name is ext2ifs | 04:37 |
erika | Now... we all know they are windows PCs | 04:37 |
Don_jr | Will this thing pop up and tell me when it's done installing? It's been going for about an hour now | 04:37 |
viator_ | i mean what do i need | 04:38 |
Elda | Erika Im assuing 99% of these 1/3 are using windows? | 04:38 |
viator_ | i got kernel headers thats not it | 04:38 |
Elda | and the other 1% mac ;) | 04:38 |
distantbody | xepher: Just mount your windows partition and copy the files off of it onto your linux partition, do you need instructions...? | 04:38 |
nich0s | ext2ifs | 04:38 |
tehsu | im trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 04:38 |
sethk | xepher, e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html | 04:38 |
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nich0s | xepher, ext2ifs | 04:38 |
UncleOp22 | Snagged 6.06 LTS (Desktop) and tried to play with it. Short report: it hangs after a few minutes of "fiddling" when booted from CDROM. System details: dual P2/450, 256MB ram, SCSI hard drives (via LSI Logic), cheapo RTL8139-compatible NIC, Matrox Mystique video card. Runs fine under RH9; I'm exploring ubuntu as a replacement. Hangs occur after setting up static IP for the NIC (DHCP not currently working, but I'll try that next). I can bring up | 04:38 |
erika | Elda... yah... that's why I only have Linux on my HD | 04:38 |
xepher | distantbody, was thinking about doing it from my windows partition... have a little more visual control of where the important ones are | 04:38 |
nich0s | xepher, it works... doesn't unmount the file system when shutting down windows though | 04:38 |
viator_ | tehsu got somthing else | 04:39 |
xepher | nich0s: thanks | 04:39 |
erika | It's absolutely insane | 04:39 |
viator_ | using apt | 04:39 |
xepher | sethk, thanks | 04:39 |
sethk | xepher, this is better, www.fs-driver.org/index.html | 04:39 |
viator_ | like synaptic | 04:39 |
RamiKassab | hey guys what's a good screenshot program for linux? I use SnagIt for windows and it does scrolling window screenshots and is totally feature packed. Is there anything comparible for linux? | 04:39 |
valehru_ | birdfish, Well I was always a debian fan, used RH 8 for a while. A friend of mine is trying to get me to use Dyne:bolic distro for some reason...he seems to like it | 04:39 |
viator_ | AND the cli | 04:39 |
xepher | sethk, just found that page | 04:39 |
Elda | I am still learning to use Linux atm so atm Win is still my larger partitoin -_- | 04:39 |
viator_ | or mutiple tabs in the cli | 04:39 |
sethk | xepher, ok, good | 04:39 |
xepher | sethk, It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access). | 04:39 |
Elda | Though Ive not used windows in 4 days now! </proud> | 04:39 |
Don_jr | I'm on a windows computer right now, installing my first ever *nix system on my laptop beside me. | 04:39 |
xepher | :) | 04:39 |
eternalswd | xepher, if you want to backup files from windows to linux, just copy them in linux, it's much safer than writing to ext3 from windows. If you're trying to backup from linux to windows, then use fs-driver | 04:39 |
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Elda | Will probably have to go on windows later though as I want to work on some stuff in 3ds >.< | 04:40 |
sethk | xepher, I agree, if possible write to ext2/3 from linux and only read it in windows | 04:40 |
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xepher | sethk, eternalswd: alright, i'll try that... be right back | 04:40 |
valehru_ | The NTFS support in nix has improved a lot, use the nix drivers | 04:40 |
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sethk | Elda, often you can't get entirely away from it, but that's ok | 04:40 |
xepher | sethk, eternalswd: rebooting to lin | 04:40 |
eternalswd | xepher, even just reading using the ext3 driver caused me a blue screen | 04:40 |
sethk | valehru, it's improved, but it is still dangerous and can corrupt the file system | 04:40 |
verbose | what packages do i need to remove and add to get rid of kde stuff in kubuntu and run ubuntu with gnome? | 04:41 |
birdfish | valehru_: I've seen dyne:bolic around, but never looked into it. I'll go check it out now. | 04:41 |
valehru_ | well.....yeah...but the windows ones are worse. | 04:41 |
eternalswd | xepher, though who knows if it was the drivers fault or some random combination of events | 04:41 |
sethk | verbose, just install gnome desktop, don't try to "get rid of" kde | 04:41 |
erika | Elda... I am sooooooo pissed at Microsoft I doubt I will EVER boot windows on my PC again. | 04:41 |
Elda | I noticed.... even looking at the games on that tuxgame website or whatever they call it, they try to sell games to play at 2x their price, that and not so many 3d programs out there for it -_- | 04:41 |
tehsu | im trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) anyone know why i cant apt-get? | 04:41 |
Sitouh | Anybody with experience getting WPA to work? I'm trying to get my box onto the wireless network, and Network Manager doesn't seem to want to give me WPA as an option... | 04:41 |
sethk | valehru_, ok, I haven't tested extensively myself, so I can't really say which is worse. | 04:41 |
valehru_ | elda, 3D programs? ever hear of blender? | 04:41 |
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Elda | Well I enjoy some games when I get to like Eve online, Planet Side, and programs like 3ds-max -_- | 04:41 |
verbose | sethk: ok, what's that package name? | 04:42 |
Elda | Yep, not as advanced aor as useful as max though | 04:42 |
sethk | tehsu, usually because you didn't run with sudo | 04:42 |
fiveiron | planetside is awesome | 04:42 |
Elda | *or | 04:42 |
sethk | tehsu, if not that, then another program (e.g. synaptic) is running and has the lock | 04:42 |
Elda | Have used them both and was much happier with max | 04:42 |
valehru_ | Elda, I think there is a Maya hack to get it working on Nix | 04:42 |
profoX` | lupine_85: hey i am wrong.. | 04:42 |
sethk | verbose, I'll get it, hang on | 04:42 |
valehru_ | I did it for a mate of mine once | 04:42 |
lupine_85 | really? | 04:42 |
viator_ | tehsu yes | 04:42 |
tehsu | k | 04:42 |
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profoX` | lupine_85: 386 kernel modules work fine on 686 / k7 kernel | 04:42 |
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valehru_ | haha | 04:42 |
viator_ | cause somthing esle is using apt | 04:42 |
tehsu | sethk: yeah u were right now it works | 04:43 |
valehru_ | Elda, who is? | 04:43 |
lupine_85 | w00t! :D | 04:43 |
eternalswd | the best way to share info between linux and windows is a fat32 partition IMO | 04:43 |
sethk | verbose, gnome-desktop-environment | 04:43 |
viator_ | the autoupdater or synaptic or the add remove programs etc | 04:43 |
profoX` | lupine_85: but NOT the other way around | 04:43 |
sethk | tehsu, excellent | 04:43 |
verbose | sethk: thanks | 04:43 |
valehru_ | Elda, damm expensive....I do a bit of Rendering, blender suits my needs for the time being... | 04:43 |
birdfish | Does Dapper-Desktop ship with gnome 2.14 now? Or still 2.12? | 04:43 |
profoX` | lupine_85: 686/k7 modules don't work on 386 kernel | 04:43 |
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distantbody | tehsu: System>Administrator>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for gcc, Ps, the message means that the server is busy | 04:44 |
Elda | Dur... thats why I wll stick with 3ds for the time being xD | 04:44 |
profoX` | birdfish: 2.14 | 04:44 |
viator_ | only one thing can use apt at a time | 04:44 |
verbose | sethk: just so i can do it myself next time, is there an easier way of finding that stuff than asking here or like apt-cache search gnome|more | 04:44 |
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sethk | viator_, correct | 04:44 |
erika | Ubuntu does 95% of what I want to do... and it does it well. The other 5% is agravating. I have 2 issues. It won't talk to my camera, and it won't talk to my Battery-backed uninterruptible power supply. | 04:44 |
sethk | verbose, I used synaptic and searched for gnome desk which finds packages with both words in the name | 04:44 |
tehsu | sethk: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables | 04:44 |
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birdfish | profoX`: Woot! | 04:44 |
Elda | Question though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4. Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so? | 04:44 |
Berto | hi - my machine just got hacked (short story: i'm a moron), so to be safe, i gotta clean out and reinstall. I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, but my box is OLD. Does anyone run ubuntu on 5 year old hardware? | 04:44 |
sethk | tehsu, sudo apt-get install build-essential | 04:44 |
RamiKassab | what are the best screenshot apps for linux? I used to use SnagIt for windows but need something for linux now. I need to be able to take scrolling window screenshots | 04:44 |
tehsu | oh yeah | 04:45 |
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Elda | As I cannot apt-get as its on my hd | 04:45 |
sethk | Berto, sure | 04:45 |
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profoX` | Berto: system specs? | 04:45 |
Berto | sethk: really? ubuntu seems to have too slick of graphics for old hardware | 04:45 |
eternalswd | RamiKassab, what do you mean by scrolling window screenshots? | 04:45 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 04:45 |
valehru_ | RamiKassab, PrintScreen + GIMP | 04:45 |
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fishy | Sound is playing in Banshee and amaroK and other players, but won't work in Pandora.com in Firefox, Flock, or WINE'd Firefox. Any idea what's wrong? | 04:45 |
sethk | Berto, I've run it with 10 year old graphics cards | 04:45 |
xepher | back | 04:45 |
Berto | profoX` and sethk - AMD Athlon 550MHz, 384mb RAM | 04:45 |
sethk | Berto, of course, the performance is lower, but it works | 04:45 |
Don_jr | Berto I"m installing it now on a system thats 4 or 5 years old. P2 500 mghz processor with 256 mg ram. | 04:45 |
VOYAGER | im running on 4 p3's | 04:45 |
profoX` | Berto: will work fine | 04:45 |
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Berto | sethk: yeah its ok, Opera sitll runs REAL fast | 04:45 |
RamiKassab | eternalswd: where the screenshot app scrolls the window as it's taking a screenshot... like a screenshot of a long web page etc | 04:46 |
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RamiKassab | valehru: that's not enough for me | 04:46 |
sethk | Berto, that's ok, although you may want to use a low overhead desktop such as fluxbox | 04:46 |
fishy | The little progress bar isn't even moving - maybe Flash doesn't have access to it? | 04:46 |
jman8888 | Is there a better way to ssh other than [ssh sever@192.168.0.10 apt-get ...... ] Its getting annoying typing so much... | 04:46 |
Berto | awesome.... i almost bought a new machine, but kernel 2.6 saved me from doing that. | 04:46 |
RamiKassab | valehru: GIMP has the ability to take screenshots but it sucks | 04:46 |
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eternalswd | RamiKassab, would that be one image, or successive? | 04:46 |
sethk | Berto, there are a few low overhead desktops; fluxbox is the only one I've tried but several have good reps | 04:46 |
RamiKassab | eternalswd: one big image | 04:46 |
fishy | Any help? :) | 04:46 |
Berto | i will get a new one when i pay my parents the 1000 i owe them first! | 04:46 |
profoX` | Berto: i suggest you use xubuntu though, that's faster for your machine than ubuntu/kubuntu, but ubuntu/kubuntu will run fine too -- you can change the desktops after installation too (GNOME/KDE/XFCE) | 04:46 |
Berto | sethk: i actually get away with kde just fine here... i like the applets, but might give fluxbox another shot | 04:46 |
sethk | jman8888, do ssh sever@xxxxxxxxxxx and get the prompt, and then type commands at the prompt | 04:46 |
RamiKassab | eternalswd: SnagIt for Windows does that among tons of other things, avis, mpegs, etc | 04:46 |
w30 | RamiKassab, Gnome works nice for screenshots, just hit printscreen button | 04:47 |
sethk | Berto, I use kde also, I was just talking about running on old hardware | 04:47 |
Berto | profoX`: what is xubuntu? a desktop flavor or a different version of the distro? | 04:47 |
tehsu | !info glib | 04:47 |
ubotu | Package glib does not exist in dapper | 04:47 |
Elda | Question though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4. Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so? | 04:47 |
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sethk | Berto, but sure, try kde, if the performance is acceptable, keep it, if not, change it. | 04:47 |
xepher | a long night awaits me! backup files from win->lin, reinstall win, move files, reinstall lin | 04:47 |
sethk | xepher, you don't have a spare ide drive to pop in to the box? | 04:47 |
RamiKassab | w30: I need something that will scroll the window in the browser though as it's making the screenshot that way I can get a screenshot of a long webpage for example | 04:47 |
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Warbo | Help, I'm having real problems trying to set up a wireless network. Now that my router has come back to life it is working for wired, but not for wireless. I can't connect to it | 04:47 |
Jbirk | I have a VNC poroblem | 04:48 |
xepher | sethk: what do you mean? to back up the files? | 04:48 |
jman8888 | sethk, WOAH! Its like im on my server... | 04:48 |
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Sitouh | I've got a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card (unsure on chipset) which I'm trying to set up to connect to a WPA wireless network. | 04:48 |
distantbody | valehru: Applications>Accessories>Take Screenshot | 04:48 |
xepher | sethk: i really need to reformat my windows hd, its really slow | 04:48 |
Jbirk | VNC is working, but I keep getting disconnected and it says Unknown Message Type | 04:48 |
tjcarter | hey all, I was was going to finally try out the nifty gooey installer thing.. Can't seem to find LVM stuff anywhere. Need I the alt installer for LVM? | 04:48 |
Berto | awesome thanks all... | 04:48 |
sethk | xepher, well, sure, if you want, but I was thinking about installing ubuntu on the second disk | 04:48 |
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sethk | xepher, oh, ok | 04:48 |
erika | I tried xubuntu... wanted to love it. I gave up when I tried to set up my printer. Xubuntu is still a geek os. | 04:48 |
Jbirk | Help | 04:48 |
tehsu | sethk: whats the aptget for glib | 04:48 |
xepher | sethk: :) | 04:48 |
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T3KnO | hello? | 04:48 |
sethk | xepher, a second drive will also speed up the backup | 04:48 |
sethk | tehsu, I'll look, but, it should be installed as a dependency of whatever is using it. | 04:48 |
Don_jr | my goodness Ubuntu takes a while to install.... | 04:48 |
xepher | sethk: yeah.. | 04:48 |
profoX` | Sitouh: find out the chipset using google or: lspci|grep Ethernet | 04:48 |
T3KnO | can anybody help me with a question about QQ Instant Messenger on Ubuntu? | 04:48 |
Warbo | erika: I don't like Xubuntu, just because it doesn't give me enough control | 04:49 |
T3KnO | anybody? | 04:49 |
profoX` | Don_jr: sarcasm? | 04:49 |
xepher | sethk: dont really feel like opening up my computer's guts at the moment (dust, furry animals, etc.) | 04:49 |
Elda | To install a file I unzipper would I have to use ./make install or what? | 04:49 |
louis__ | T3LnO,are u a chinese? | 04:49 |
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sethk | tehsu, libglib2.0-dev | 04:49 |
Warbo | Don_jr: That is because of all the great stuff it comes with | 04:49 |
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Elda | *unzipped | 04:49 |
tehsu | ty | 04:49 |
profoX` | xepher: furry what o_O | 04:49 |
tehsu | ls | 04:49 |
tehsu | er | 04:49 |
profoX` | sounds unhealthy | 04:49 |
sethk | Don_jr, you can install a minimal system much more quickly | 04:49 |
Don_jr | not sarcasm, I wasn't expecting over an hour of nothing but disk spinning...lol | 04:49 |
xepher | profoX`: nothing... did i say something? :) | 04:50 |
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louis__ | maybe i can help you ,T3KnO,i use qq | 04:50 |
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Don_jr | nothign on the screen to show progress, just the disk going crazy! lol | 04:50 |
profoX` | I install ubuntu completely in 15 minutes | 04:50 |
Don_jr | you have a much faster system than I do profox | 04:50 |
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profoX` | on 800 Mhz machine Don_jr | 04:50 |
Don_jr | mines only 500 mghz and only 256 mg ram | 04:50 |
sethk | Don_jr, once the install is done, check whether dma is being used for your drive. If it isn't, then the install will be slow | 04:50 |
profoX` | mine 256MB ram too | 04:50 |
Don_jr | and I just hit the install button, it gave me no options at all | 04:50 |
Warbo | Can I get some wireless help from someone knowledgable about these things please? I can't talk to my router wirelessly | 04:51 |
w30 | RamiKassab, donno of any thing like that for anything Microsoft Windows, Mac, or Linux so you know more than me which is no big deal ha! | 04:51 |
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profoX` | Don_jr: thats not right. did you burn the cd yourself? | 04:51 |
sethk | Don_jr, there are options with the alternate cd | 04:51 |
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VOYAGER | very slow if hd is on same channel as cd | 04:51 |
Don_jr | sethk after install is done, it won't matter. | 04:51 |
Elda | Took me longer to install Ubuntu because I was having a hard time trying to figure out how hard I had to make each partition xD | 04:51 |
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profoX` | Elda: lol | 04:51 |
sethk | Don_jr, sure it will, because you don't want the machine to run slowly forever | 04:51 |
Don_jr | profoX yes I DL'd the sio and burnt it myself. | 04:51 |
Elda | err how large | 04:51 |
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profoX` | Don_jr: burnt it on a low speed like 4x ? | 04:51 |
profoX` | or 2x even :) | 04:51 |
Elda | oh my... that is perverted | 04:51 |
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xepher | gah.. can someone tell me how to open file explorer as root (so that i can move around my windows drive) | 04:51 |
Don_jr | nope, on 12 | 04:51 |
RamiKassab | w30: lol ok that works... guess I'll have to keep looking around. Windows has got a few great ones but I need one for Linux for some of my work requirements | 04:51 |
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Elda | ;_; long day of studying physiology is not good for the brain | 04:51 |
Sitouh | profox': It's an Actiontec PCMCIA card - that help? | 04:52 |
profoX` | Don_jr: the cd is very sensitive -- when you burn a new one on low speeds it might work fine | 04:52 |
taychouri-a | anyone know how to get songs off an ipod on to a linux | 04:52 |
T3KnO | Louis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it? | 04:52 |
janbanan | How do I make the trash-bin appear on the desktop instead of the bottom-bar? | 04:52 |
Warbo | !info gtkpod | 04:52 |
profoX` | Don_jr: alot of people reported that they had to burn it on 4x to get it working | 04:52 |
ubotu | gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB | 04:52 |
tjcarter | Sitouh: yeah, insert it into your high capacity paper shredder. | 04:52 |
tjcarter | ;) | 04:52 |
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Don_jr | that's cool, I don't want to start this install all over....you think it would help if I did? burn a new one on 2X and start all over? | 04:52 |
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Elda | Don_jr, it installs pretty fast imo | 04:52 |
Berto | how does ubuntu fit in one 700mb iso?? i'm used to 3 or 4 cds from mandriva.... is there way more downloading later? | 04:52 |
Warbo | janbanan: Have a look in Applications>System Tools. Is there an entry @Configuration Editor@? | 04:53 |
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Sitouh | tjcarter: That bad? | 04:53 |
Elda | I was up and running in about 20 ish minutes | 04:53 |
wweasel | How do I prevent Sound Juicer from opening automatically when I insert an Audio CD? | 04:53 |
Elda | Much niftier than Winbloat | 04:53 |
tjcarter | Sitouh: you may be able to get it to work without much fuss, but Actiontec hardware isn't the best. | 04:53 |
Don_jr | I'll burn a new one at a slower speed and reformat the HD and try again, see what happens | 04:53 |
profoX` | Sitouh: actiontec seems to use atmel drivers.. | 04:53 |
Warbo | wweasel: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media | 04:53 |
nich0s | Berto, I have installed Ubuntu 5 times on different systems on a satellite connection and I really don't think that it is that bad. | 04:53 |
profoX` | tjcarter: actiontec probably uses chipsets from other vendors like atmel | 04:53 |
mindjuju | i'm trying to install the kde interface on the server install of ubuntu but when i type sudo apt-get install kde, it says it can't find the package. but when i search on packages.ubuntu.com it says the package exists -- any ideas? | 04:53 |
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louis__ | i am sorry,i receive nothing,you can ask you problem here | 04:53 |
birdfish | Alright guys, time to log off and get some sleep. I'll catch up with you all later! | 04:54 |
profoX` | Sitouh: what did "lspci | grep Ethernet" give you? | 04:54 |
foo | Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system? | 04:54 |
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profoX` | birdfish: bye | 04:54 |
louis__ | T3Kno | 04:54 |
Berto | nich0s: i have a plenty fine connection, i'm just wondering if this 700mb cd is everything or does it download way more? | 04:54 |
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T3KnO | Louis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it? | 04:54 |
tjcarter | profoX`: Probably, yes. | 04:54 |
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louis__ | not yet | 04:54 |
tjcarter | in fact, Atmel would be my #1 guess. | 04:54 |
erika | anyway... the ntsb sent me a letter... telling me one of their operatives had his laptop stolen. All of the data was pilots in florida. They are telling me to contact the credit people. I flew big jets for a major airline until I aquired the joy of MS last march. Should I worry about this latest identity theft scare? | 04:54 |
louis__ | what's ur problem? | 04:54 |
janbanan | Warbo: No | 04:54 |
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Sitouh | profoX': So, I have Network Manager installed, as instructed in the help wiki. However, it won't give me WPA security as an option | 04:54 |
sethk | mindjuju, I believe kde-desktop-environment | 04:55 |
xepher | anyone can tell me how to browse the file system graphically as "root"? | 04:55 |
Warbo | janbanan: OK, open up Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor and turn it on (Alacarte can take a while to load) | 04:55 |
T3KnO | Well I would like to know how I could register an QQ account and use it? | 04:55 |
bruenig | xepher, gksudo nautilus | 04:55 |
mindjuju | thx sethk, i'll try that | 04:55 |
nich0s | Berto, You and I both know that there is no possible way to fit everything that you want on to a single 700mb CD (unless you are a minimalist). There is enough on the 700mb CD to get you up and running, but there is an additional download of under 200mb. :P | 04:55 |
fiveiron | hey anyone play enemy territory? | 04:55 |
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T3KnO | I have done some research about it, and it seems you need openQ? | 04:55 |
profoX` | Sitouh: does the card work without WPA ? | 04:55 |
T3KnO | or some kind | 04:55 |
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xepher | bruenig: thanks | 04:55 |
der0b | mindjuju: for the whole kubuntu desktop, install the kubuntu-desktop package | 04:55 |
distantbody | Berto: 700mb is all of it, plus +-200mb worth of updates | 04:55 |
louis__ | you can use lumaqq in ubuntu | 04:55 |
Sitouh | It did before I installed Network Manager. | 04:55 |
Don_jr | Okay, writing a new disk at 2X | 04:55 |
Berto | 900mb is still nothing, but cool nich0s and distantbody ... wasn't sure how lightweight it was | 04:55 |
mindjuju | der0b, i tried that one too actually, but it says same thing, can't find package | 04:56 |
Jbirk | I have a VNC problem | 04:56 |
Jbirk | please help me | 04:56 |
Jbirk | My VNc is borken | 04:56 |
T3KnO | am I able to register via lunaqq? | 04:56 |
Jbirk | When I connect, I get an awful error | 04:56 |
wweasel | I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound works in other apps) | 04:56 |
Jbirk | randomly | 04:56 |
Jbirk | It works great until I get kicked with either | 04:56 |
nich0s | Jbirk, What error? | 04:56 |
Warbo | wweasel: Try plugging your speakers into the CD drive... | 04:56 |
Jbirk | rect too big or unknown message type | 04:56 |
xepher | bruenig: works beautifully, thanks | 04:56 |
nich0s | Jbirk, For that matter, what program?> | 04:56 |
Jbirk | VNC | 04:57 |
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janbanan | Warbo: and what do I do there? | 04:57 |
Jbirk | I have the server installed on the Ubuntu box | 04:57 |
w30 | Berto, yep but the Unbuntu cd group that you buy has lots of apps but the download cd is live and has just some of the apps that you will want and you have to get more off the net. | 04:57 |
louis__ | if you want to register an qq account,you can access http://www.tecent.com.cn | 04:57 |
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Warbo | janbanan: Have you turned on System Tools>Configuration Editor? | 04:57 |
wweasel | Warbo: Laptop. And, CD audio works in Sound Juicer | 04:57 |
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Jbirk | It is setup with the xinetd internet superserver | 04:57 |
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janbanan | Warbo: yes | 04:57 |
nickv111 | Haha | 04:57 |
louis__ | T3KNO,can you access chinese website? | 04:57 |
nickv111 | I figured something out | 04:57 |
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Jbirk | Basically, It does everything I want | 04:57 |
nickv111 | I was using dapper-backports instead of dapper | 04:58 |
Elda | Cripes | 04:58 |
nich0s | nickv111, AWESOME! | 04:58 |
nickv111 | ;) | 04:58 |
Jbirk | then it bombs out / crashes | 04:58 |
T3KnO | yes I can... | 04:58 |
nickv111 | nich0s: ;) | 04:58 |
Elda | Can someone help me with a bit of an installation/uninstallation question? | 04:58 |
louis__ | lumaqq is a qq client | 04:58 |
T3KnO | let me try for a sec.. | 04:58 |
Warbo | janbanan: OK, then open it up and go in apps>nautilus>desktop and there is an option like @trash_visible@, turn that on | 04:58 |
dalila | !ps/2 | 04:58 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ps/2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 04:58 |
nich0s | Elda, If it is eady :p | 04:58 |
T3KnO | o i c | 04:58 |
Sitouh | profox': It did before I installed Network Manager :( | 04:58 |
Elda | Hopefully if someone does answer I will be able to see it this time xD | 04:58 |
nich0s | err easy :p | 04:58 |
fiveiron | hey anyone play enemy territory? | 04:58 |
dalila | !mouse | 04:58 |
ubotu | Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto | 04:58 |
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Elda | Well its not easy for me but might be easy for you? | 04:58 |
Berto | w30: whoa the download cd is "live" ?? haha to me, live means you run it off of the cd | 04:58 |
T3KnO | i am not able to reach this http://www.tecent.com.cn | 04:58 |
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nich0s | elda, What's goin on? | 04:58 |
xepher | one other question: can anyone help me installing my sony nw-e505 flash mp3 player under linux.... the dreaded sonicstage is acting up under wine | 04:58 |
T3KnO | currently offline? | 04:58 |
bruenig | lets say I wanted to launch nautilus or totem with crontab. Do i need to add something in the crontab. As in should I add a PATH, I have never done this before not to clear on that short of thing. what about a SHELL, i notice other crontab had a SHELL entry should that be in my own crontab also | 04:59 |
louis__ | you can search "lumaqq" by google,and download it | 04:59 |
Elda | I downloaded a new version of wireless network manager as it supports vpn support (what I need to get on the internet at school) but I am curious would I have to delete the old version first? AND | 04:59 |
louis__ | i can register one qq number for u | 04:59 |
Warbo | bruenig: You may need DISPLAY set | 04:59 |
Elda | Since I didnt dl it useing ap-get install how would I install it? >.< | 04:59 |
sethk | Elda, ordinarily no | 04:59 |
w30 | Berto, right boot it up on a bare box and install from an install icon on the Desktop, cool eh? | 04:59 |
bruenig | DISPLAY, and what might that look like | 04:59 |
T3KnO | ok i'll download one now.. | 04:59 |
janbanan | Warbo: Thanks mate | 04:59 |
Elda | Ive unpacked it onto a directory on my desktop already | 04:59 |
Warbo | "DISPLAY=localhost:0" maybe | 05:00 |
distantbody | Elda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros | 05:00 |
Elda | And ./install doesnt seem to work for me >.< | 05:00 |
bruenig | ok I will mess around with that | 05:00 |
Berto | w30: haha yeah exactly. live cd to me means like knoppix | 05:00 |
Warbo | !compile | 05:00 |
ubotu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) | 05:00 |
louis__ | then you can log with your account by using lumaqq | 05:00 |
sethk | bruenig, you can always run a program with it's full path name and not worry about PATH. PATH is set to a reasonable value by the default bash configuration files | 05:00 |
T3KnO | do I need a specific version to have it work? | 05:00 |
wweasel | I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound, including CD Audio, works in other apps) | 05:00 |
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haasteem | !repositories | 05:00 |
ubotu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource | 05:00 |
Warbo | Berto: I am in the live CD right now... | 05:00 |
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nich0s | elda, Did you see the !compile output? | 05:00 |
nich0s | !compile | 05:00 |
ubotu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) | 05:00 |
bruenig | yeah I know that. but I was trying to get totem to open a file, I tried full path to totem followed by full path to file but that didn't work | 05:00 |
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PMantis | FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format | 05:00 |
PMantis | Is vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel? | 05:01 |
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bruenig | but that might be because of no DISPLAY | 05:01 |
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louis__ | lumaqq2005 is ok,if you use lumaqq2006,it may not stable | 05:01 |
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Warbo | PMantis: Make sure you have the right vmware-modules (I think) package for your kernel | 05:01 |
Don_jr | what is the kernel? I"ve seen that used alot. | 05:01 |
Berto | w30: one last thing - i already have /home with tons of stuff and obviously do NOT want to lose that. Is the installer nice and friendly about making sure it doesn't get formatted? | 05:01 |
nich0s | Elda, That may help you with the install file. Were you just not able to find anything in the package manager? | 05:01 |
Warbo | !kernel | 05:01 |
ubotu | kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild | 05:01 |
w30 | Berto, well The Ubuntu cd is live, it is a memory checker, and it has the install media (basic) on it so you can got to preconfigure repositories to get all kinds of neat stuff. | 05:01 |
T3KnO | hehe...just downloading lumaqq _2006 M2 Linux.. | 05:01 |
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T3KnO | i'll try to look for lumaqq2005 | 05:02 |
louis__ | that's ok | 05:02 |
louis__ | lumaqq2006 is just ok | 05:02 |
Berto | w30: that's a really great idea to have the installer like that. as long as i don't lose /home :) | 05:02 |
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nich0s | There are only 828 people in here.. that is sad. :P | 05:02 |
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Don_jr | that's enough for me | 05:02 |
PMantis | Warbo, There is no "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26-686" package | 05:02 |
w30 | Berto, also it can boot your installation if a Windows reinstall wipes out bootloader | 05:02 |
distantbody | Don_jr: Your hardware talks to the kernel, and your kernel talks to your software. | 05:02 |
nich0s | I think microsoft should build a similar IRC room :P | 05:02 |
louis__ | T3Kno,where are u?why you can not access chinese website? | 05:02 |
T3KnO | about 12.4 mb...or so... | 05:03 |
Don_jr | so it's the backbone of unix then? | 05:03 |
eternalswd | RamiKassab, I don't know about a linux screengrab program, but there's a firefox extension you might want to look into at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1146/ | 05:03 |
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nich0s | Don_jr, It's the like the registry in windows :p | 05:03 |
nich0s | Don_jr, The engine in a car. | 05:03 |
Berto | w30: not a probelm here... i've been linux 100% for 6 years. i'm just a laggard when it comes to trying new distro | 05:03 |
T3KnO | i don't know why i can not reach that page....i am currently in Shenzhen, China | 05:03 |
VOYAGER | Berto, i rename a copy of home and save it just in case | 05:03 |
piratepenguin | Ubuntu's been in a bad state for me recently... (not related to the X update afaik).. does anyone else get a green border around a non-maximized gnome-terminal? (I'm using xorg-air btw) | 05:03 |
Don_jr | and while i"m thinking of it. Is there a difference between unix and linux or can they truly be used interchangably? | 05:03 |
nich0s | Don_jr, The SOMETHING MASSIVE to it's DEPENDENCY :P | 05:03 |
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louis__ | you try www.qq.com | 05:03 |
louis__ | i'm in shenzhen too | 05:04 |
Warbo | PMantis: There's your problem then (don't ask me how to fix it though :) ) | 05:04 |
linux__alien | I ve a weird problem with Ubuntu . I use PPPOE to connect to the internet and it gets connected also but when i leave the connection idle for some time i am unable to browse using Firefox but IRC Chat works and gaim works could some one help me | 05:04 |
T3KnO | really? | 05:04 |
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Berto | VOYAGER: what do you mean? my /home/ is bigger than the rest of my space, so i can't copy it or back it up | 05:04 |
louis__ | sure | 05:04 |
T3KnO | I live near DI WANG Building | 05:04 |
PMantis | Warbo, Heh, well my problem must be a distro problem | 05:04 |
louis__ | i am a chinese | 05:04 |
VOYAGER | rofl | 05:04 |
Berto | VOYAGER: i'm just asking if there's an option to keep existing partitions? | 05:04 |
louis__ | i working near SAI GE mansion | 05:05 |
Berto | VOYAGER: and NOT format certain ones.. | 05:05 |
nalioth | !offtopic | 05:05 |
ubotu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 05:05 |
w30 | nich0s, in the old days Microsoft had a following like Linux does now with clubs and every thing that Gates didn't like ,like sharing software (on floppydisks). | 05:05 |
linux__alien | is this a bug in ubuntu ? | 05:05 |
T3KnO | i am also chinese but from the Netherland | 05:05 |
T3KnO | s | 05:05 |
TheRealCfreak | linux__alien: sounds like a DNS problem ... do you have another OS to test it on? | 05:05 |
VOYAGER | was a advanced mode in beta testing but not sure now | 05:05 |
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louis__ | are you a boy or a girl? | 05:05 |
T3KnO | boy | 05:05 |
nich0s | w30, Did you used to have to walk to school, 30 miles, in the snow, both ways? :P | 05:05 |
T3KnO | you? | 05:05 |
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louis__ | boy | 05:05 |
T3KnO | i c | 05:05 |
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Jbirk | any idea for fixing my VNC? | 05:06 |
nich0s | w30, sorry. I know :P | 05:06 |
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Cheza_ | meh | 05:06 |
louis__ | Netherland? | 05:06 |
sethk | only 30 miles? | 05:06 |
nalioth | louis__: T3KnO : go to #ubuntu-offtopic please | 05:06 |
T3KnO | you ever go to club called ben si? | 05:06 |
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louis__ | soory | 05:06 |
nich0s | w30, I couldn't help it... Now Microsoft has a following, the majority of them have pitchforks :p | 05:06 |
Ignacio | alguien habla espaol ? | 05:06 |
louis__ | sorry | 05:06 |
nalioth | !es | 05:06 |
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w30 | nich0s, I think that era died about the time of Windows95 and the get away from command line DOS | 05:06 |
ubotu | Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. | 05:06 |
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xepher | brb | 05:06 |
Elda | I missed everything that was just said after my question -_- | 05:06 |
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distantbody | Elda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros | 05:07 |
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Elda | But what Id last said is that Synaptics Packaged Manager has .6.2 rather than .6.4 | 05:07 |
bruenig | apt-get is so much easier | 05:07 |
w30 | nich0s, no. but it was uphill both ways :=) | 05:07 |
T3KnO | louis__ ---> /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:07 |
Elda | Package Manager | 05:07 |
Warbo | Applications>Add/Remove is for n00bs, Synaptic is for pros | 05:07 |
profoX` | Warbo: well -- universe and multiverse are alot bigger iirc | 05:07 |
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louis__ | nalioth , i help him to slove the qq porblem ,hehe ,do not drive out us | 05:07 |
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bruenig | add/remove is frustrating all I have had it to is tell me it can't do what I want it to do unless I do it in synaptic | 05:07 |
nickv111 | I always use apt-get; I'll never get used to all this GUI stuff | 05:07 |
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nich0s | w30, damn, can't believe I messed that opportunity up. :P | 05:08 |
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nalioth | louis__: T3KnO: this is a support channel, you can find out each others night club preferences in #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:08 |
nickv111 | The problem with (K)ubuntu is this: it's too easy, and too intuitive. I'm used to always making the problem harder than it is | 05:08 |
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nich0s | I'm 18, I was raised on a Gui :P | 05:08 |
eternalswd | louis_, just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat | 05:08 |
profoX` | nickv111: me too - although synaptic has a nice category search thingy | 05:08 |
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louis__ | mistake | 05:08 |
Warbo | profoX`: I just haven't run Synaptic without enabling Universe before. I only did it just now because I forgot to set a DNS server so apt couldn't load the Universe package list | 05:08 |
Don_jr | the more I read this stuff, the more I learn I don't know anything about linux..... | 05:08 |
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shray | hi | 05:08 |
nich0s | HOWDY! | 05:09 |
T3KnO | o i am sorry if i mentioned that...i won't do that again... | 05:09 |
nalioth | louis__: T3KnO is waiting to continue your nightlife chat in #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:09 |
shray | can you run xgl on edgy eft? | 05:09 |
ddna | I am getting cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57 when I play mms:// video stream, I have latest w32codec already installed help ubuntu amd 64 | 05:09 |
dr_willis | Don_jr, the more you learn, the more you learn.. that you have more to learn | 05:09 |
cvp | If someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please. | 05:09 |
Don_jr | lol that is true | 05:09 |
profoX` | louis__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic ;) | 05:09 |
louis__ | ok, | 05:09 |
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w30 | nich0s, but I haven't used Windows since it wiped my lilo boot loader and made re reinstall Linux. I re-installed Linux whole disk and never looked back since RedHat 4.6 | 05:09 |
toleshei | Is there really any advantage to updating the kernel from 386 to k7 (in my case) | 05:09 |
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nich0s | w30, I think redhat 4.6 is before my time :P | 05:10 |
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Elda | Bleh! | 05:10 |
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Don_jr | I've never used a *nix based system in my life. I'm installing ubuntu for the first time today! | 05:10 |
Elda | Synaptics only has version .6.4.2 | 05:10 |
Elda | err .6.2 | 05:10 |
Elda | I need .6.4 | 05:10 |
distantbody | Elda: did you refresh it? | 05:10 |
eternalswd | ddna, try it in vlc | 05:10 |
Elda | Yes | 05:10 |
w30 | nich0s, at least it ain't linux1.1 or whatever Linus called it. | 05:11 |
nich0s | w30, I am working on weaning myself away from the microsoft, but I know it sooo well.. I can dance circles around everything in windows :P | 05:11 |
profoX` | toleshei: it will run slightly faster.. | 05:11 |
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Elda | I have it sitting in a directory, I just am not sure how to manually install it | 05:11 |
Sitouh | Anyone with experience getting WPA to work with wireless cards? | 05:11 |
testtt | is it possible to hook up my Linksys WMP54GS and get it to work? i mean is there drivers for it? | 05:11 |
Elda | It has an install file and the like in there | 05:11 |
Elda | Ive tried ./install | 05:11 |
rpedro | Elda: what program ? | 05:11 |
bruenig | my crontab entry right now is * * * * * /usr/bin/nautilus, my thought is that it will launch nautilus every minute. But it doesn't do so. any thoughts | 05:11 |
Don_jr | it's a fat32 system I'm installing into, I know it will reformat it to what it needs, but would the install go faster if it was ext3 already? | 05:11 |
omoore | I've been a centos user for some time now as my primary os. I'm looking for a bit more modern distro tho and like ubuntu.. | 05:11 |
toleshei | thanks | 05:11 |
profoX` | toleshei: and support multiple processors and more RAM (+4GB or something like that?) | 05:11 |
omoore | i use vmware alot tho.. for client work, etc... | 05:11 |
Warbo | Where does network-manager-gnome go? (as in Applications, System>Admin, etc.) I've heard it is quite good at doing wireless, so maybe it'll help me, but I can't find out how to open it | 05:11 |
distantbody | Elda: "sudo ./..." | 05:11 |
Elda | This http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ | 05:11 |
Elda | Ive tried sudo | 05:11 |
nich0s | Don_jr, It will want to auto partition the drive anyways... it will not really make a difference esp if this is your first install. | 05:12 |
Don_jr | ok | 05:12 |
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janbanan | I've made a new panel at the bottom of the desktop. Is it possible to make it appear in the background so for example firefox is displayed over it? | 05:12 |
omoore | how is ubuntu with vmware where ubuntu is the host? has anyone here doing this for a long time? | 05:12 |
toleshei | well since i'm just running an athlon 2000+ with a gig of ram, is it worth it? | 05:12 |
Don_jr | totally reformatted and empty HD I'm installing into | 05:12 |
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Elda | Want to get .6.4 working because it has vpn support which is what I need to use at school to get online | 05:12 |
omoore | (not as guest, as the host for vmware workstation) | 05:12 |
distantbody | Elda: is the terminal in the correct directory | 05:12 |
eternalswd | testtt, possibly. the best place to check would be www.ubuntuforums.org just search for your wireless device and you might run into a howto | 05:12 |
Elda | Yes I do cd... type in the name of it and hit tab so it auto complete | 05:12 |
Elda | s | 05:12 |
distantbody | Elda: an what does it say? | 05:13 |
Elda | Ive tried ./INSTALL ./install makefile or whatever its called | 05:13 |
Elda | Nadda | 05:13 |
qatsi | good night all !, im haivng troubble with my xorg.conf and i need to rebuild it. I know there is a command to do so, but i dont remember it, can anyone please tell me what command is that ? | 05:13 |
Elda | let me try again | 05:13 |
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TheRealCfreak | Elda it sounds like you're trying to compile software | 05:13 |
Elda | ewww | 05:13 |
TheRealCfreak | you need the development tools in order to do that | 05:13 |
nich0s | w30, How did you get away from gates-ville and get yourself to adapt to linux. what did you read, where did you go? | 05:13 |
nich0s | !compile :P | 05:13 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about compile :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:13 |
Elda | Even if it has an install file already therE? | 05:13 |
profoX` | Elda: do you have a "no screens found" error? | 05:13 |
Elda | nope | 05:13 |
eternalswd | Elda, what are you trying to compile? | 05:14 |
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qatsi | no one knows the command to re-build xorg.conf ? | 05:14 |
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cvp | If someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please. | 05:14 |
tnzr | Elda: is the install file called "INSTALL" ? if so its a text file with instructions. | 05:14 |
profoX` | Elda: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 05:14 |
profoX` | Elda: that will rebuild the xorg.conf file | 05:14 |
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rpedro | Elda: try typing gedit INSTALL | 05:14 |
sethk | cvp, better to ask here, let everyone help | 05:14 |
distantbody | qatsi: i; get it in two secs... | 05:14 |
nich0s | profoX`, that is for qatsi I thinks | 05:14 |
qatsi | thanks :D | 05:14 |
cvp | sethk: my problem involves a lot of gibberish that my computer spit at me... it would take up a good portion of the page | 05:14 |
Warbo | qatsi: apt-get source xserver-xorg maybe? | 05:14 |
nich0s | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 05:15 |
profoX` | nich0s: oops | 05:15 |
Elda | Ewww looking at the install file its a compile thing | 05:15 |
nich0s | profoX`, hehe :P | 05:15 |
eternalswd | cvp, post it in the pastebin | 05:15 |
cvp | sethk: and the last thing I want to do is annoy everybody here | 05:15 |
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profoX` | qatsi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 05:15 |
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nich0s | cvp, I am annoying everyone here :P | 05:15 |
Elda | I think Ill just leave that alone for now | 05:15 |
TheRealCfreak | Elda: most source tar files come with an installation file that compiles it for you. But you have to have the compilier and make and all the dev tools ... What are you trying to install? | 05:15 |
Warbo | !compile > Elda | 05:15 |
distantbody | qatsi: here is the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" | 05:15 |
Elda | http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ Trying to install this | 05:15 |
jman8888 | Ummm....What do i do if i forget my USERNAME! (I set my sister up a pc and gave her her own username but forgot it...) | 05:15 |
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nich0s | Ooer, while we are on the subject, where can I get the dev tools for compiling? | 05:16 |
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Elda | I wish to use .6.4 | 05:16 |
tnzr | Elda: isnt there a .deb for that? | 05:16 |
Berto | so i never got a confident answer to this: i have mandriva 2006 and want to format /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda6 with / and /usr -- however, i do NOT want the installer to format /dev/hda7 which is my /home. Is this going to be OK? | 05:16 |
Warbo | jman8888: I would boot into recovery mode, add a new user and add them to admin group | 05:16 |
IcemanV9 | network manager has a long way to go; it works, but not perfect :/ | 05:16 |
Elda | errr let me see if its int he directory | 05:16 |
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kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 05:16 |
Sitouh | My wireless card works when I'm not trying to use WPA (or Network Manager), but Network Manager isn't giving me WPA as an option | 05:16 |
Berto | (oh and i didn't mention above that i'd be installing ubuntu, of course) | 05:16 |
Elda | It works fine for me but I need VPN support so I can get on at school | 05:16 |
jman8888 | Warbo, How... | 05:16 |
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foo | Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system? | 05:17 |
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tnzr | Berto you can do it.. not sure how in ubuntu but I bet involves selecting "Manually partition hard drives.." or whatever instead of the auto mode | 05:17 |
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dr_willis | foo perhaps ya got no speaker? :P | 05:17 |
Warbo | jman8888: adduser will add a user, but I forget how to add someone to a group | 05:17 |
Berto | tnzr: yeah i saw some screenshots on that from one guide about windows | 05:17 |
cvp | I can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater. | 05:17 |
VOYAGER | foo turn on the system sounds | 05:17 |
tnzr | Berto: you may even be able to make it ignore that partition in Auto mode, then later you can just mount that partition on /home and you are all set | 05:17 |
TheRealCfreak | Elda: I think you want, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome | 05:18 |
Berto | tnzr: a wise idea. just say no touch | 05:18 |
tnzr | Berto: its easy on the command line, but I couldnt tell you how with automated gui junk like installers | 05:18 |
Warbo | tnzr: Even easier, just set it to mount as /home and tell it not to format | 05:18 |
Elda | Okey so how would I know what I need to !compile ? | 05:18 |
Elda | Kk | 05:18 |
foo | dr_willis: I do. This worked fine on debian. | 05:18 |
foo | VOYAGER: How? | 05:18 |
TheRealCfreak | You shouldn't have to compile | 05:18 |
tnzr | Berto: what Warbo said (though I am absolved of all responsibility from here on in :) | 05:18 |
TheRealCfreak | if you really want to compile ... um hard to explain, you need a bunch of packages even to get started | 05:18 |
IcemanV9 | Elda: you don't need to know to compile; apt-get will take care of it. :) | 05:19 |
Berto | Warbo: awesome, thanks. that's what I was wondering -- if there's a NO FORMAT option. i'd flip out if it formatted my stuff | 05:19 |
nich0s | I think he is saying that you don't want to even start with it :p | 05:19 |
Elda | Errr apt-get only gives me version .6.2 | 05:19 |
nich0s | or she | 05:19 |
nich0s | sorry | 05:19 |
eternalswd | Elda, I think you need to do sudo make install | 05:19 |
Elda | Reading package lists... Done | 05:19 |
Elda | Building dependency tree... Done | 05:19 |
Elda | network-manager-gnome is already the newest version. | 05:19 |
Elda | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 05:19 |
sethk | Berto, it's better to take the mode where you get a veto | 05:19 |
Elda | kk | 05:19 |
jman8888 | Warbo, I just found on Ubuntu forums to do revovery mode them cd /home then type ls... Seems so obvious. | 05:19 |
TheRealCfreak | ahhh | 05:19 |
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Berto | sethk: hhaah what? manual mode you mean? | 05:20 |
Warbo | Berto: There is a page on the installer just after the manual partition editor (I assume you are going to do it manually) which lets you set each partition's mount point and whether it should be formatted. (I have only done it with manual, it may be available on automatic I don't know) | 05:20 |
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jman8888 | Also why dont i see 2000(On a seperate hd on the grub menu) | 05:20 |
w30 | nich0s, I saw an interview on a tv show called techtv or somethin like that. It was the two guys that founded RedHat. I said tomyself 'Self, that is for me." | 05:20 |
Elda | eternalswd, that doesnt work -_- | 05:20 |
TheRealCfreak | Elda: just doing make install won't work. | 05:20 |
Warbo | jman8888: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think of that :) | 05:20 |
dasGewitte1 | Where can I get the package growisofs? | 05:20 |
cruddpuppet | can some one help me install divx | 05:20 |
Sitouh | Anybody know why Network Manager won't give me WPA security? | 05:21 |
distantbody | jman8888: there *should* be a dropdown box at the top right | 05:21 |
Elda | How do I determine which file I have to "make" ? | 05:21 |
TheRealCfreak | Elda: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled? | 05:21 |
cvp | I can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater. | 05:21 |
Elda | let me go and look | 05:21 |
eternalswd | Elda, see if you have make -> sudo apt-get install make | 05:21 |
Berto | Warbo: perfect, i'm confident now. i can figure out the rest. | 05:21 |
Berto | tyahks!! | 05:21 |
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cruddpuppet | hello | 05:21 |
qatsi | sorry to bother you again, but months ago i used a command just like the one you gave me: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the other one configured X by itself, this one is asking me things, and i just want to auto detect the settings...do you know what im i talking about :P? | 05:21 |
Warbo | Elda: "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall -D" | 05:21 |
IcemanV9 | ya, i just noticed that network-manager version is 6.2 on Ubuntu, but there is 6.4 out there. :/ | 05:21 |
nich0s | w30, What about it made you want to switch to it? I mean, from what I can tell so far is that I am just awkward in this environment. | 05:21 |
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cruddpuppet | CAn some one here help me install divx? | 05:21 |
rpedro | !wpa >> Sitouh | 05:21 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 05:21 |
w30 | nich0s, I don't imagine they have that kid of time nowadays. | 05:21 |
distantbody | qatsi: i'll private message | 05:22 |
Elda | I have make now >.> | 05:22 |
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jordanau | rpedro, search for wpa in the ubuntu wiki | 05:22 |
qatsi | distantbody: ok | 05:22 |
eternalswd | cvp, sounds like your hard drive is going bad, do you have another computer that you can load it in as a slave? | 05:22 |
Sitouh | I went through all the steps the wiki said, and it's still not working | 05:22 |
jman8888 | distantbody, ? I installed using a random username(Im used to my Login screen i got from gnome-look that shows all my users avalible. | 05:22 |
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fiendskull9 | hello | 05:22 |
Elda | Okey updating packages | 05:22 |
rpedro | Sitouh: for you ^^ | 05:22 |
Elda | My head is going to explode! | 05:22 |
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heyu | hey.. can anyone give a hand? my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device" | 05:22 |
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fiendskull9 | im having trouble removing the xfonts-artwiz package | 05:23 |
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cvp | eternalswd: no can do, I have one laptop and one desktop, and I can't stick my notebook hard drive into my desktop... | 05:23 |
Don_jr | man burning at 2X is slow....I really hope it installs faster for waiting this long...lol | 05:23 |
Warbo | Can I please get some help with Wifi? I have asked a lot and got no response. My help ratio is extraordinarily one-sided in this community.... | 05:23 |
Elda | Is there anything more basic I should learn how to do before I mess with all this? | 05:23 |
Sitouh | rpedro: I went through everything I could find there in the help. | 05:23 |
cruddpuppet | Can some one help me out here? I have an .avi file and I don't know how to install divx | 05:23 |
dasGewitte1 | Warbo: what's the problem? | 05:23 |
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fiendskull9 | Don_jr: you have a 2x dvd drive? | 05:23 |
jordanau | warbo whats up | 05:23 |
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dasGewitte1 | cruddpuppet: use mplayer to play the .avi file | 05:24 |
cruddpuppet | mplayer? | 05:24 |
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haiyai | hi | 05:24 |
w30 | nich0s, the best thing to do is buy some books, but around my neck of the woods no one uses Linux so I have to get my books by ordering on line. Buy something that fits your distro or changeyour distro to match the book. Switch distros later | 05:24 |
IcemanV9 | Don_jr: it'll install much faster than 2X :) | 05:24 |
Don_jr | I don't have a dvd drive at all on the PC I"m burning with, it's a simple cdrw | 05:24 |
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nich0s | elda, psst... I am a gui-junkie don't give in, but learn it just in case :P | 05:24 |
dasGewitte1 | cruddpuppet: yes, it's an alternate media player, it has the proper codecs for an .avi file | 05:24 |
fiendskull9 | Don_jr: and its 2x? | 05:24 |
Don_jr | I'm burning the ISO at 2x cause I was told that my last burn at 12x may make the install slower.. | 05:24 |
Warbo | My router doesn't give me an IP via DHCP wirelessly (it does wired), and even if I set a static IP in the right range it refuses to talk | 05:24 |
cruddpuppet | thank you | 05:24 |
haiyai | anyone no about azureus | 05:24 |
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bruenig | haiyai, what is your question | 05:24 |
fiendskull9 | Don_jr: ahhh | 05:24 |
Elda | I want to learn the command line as it seems you need both in here >.> | 05:24 |
tehsu | How can I monitor cpu temp? | 05:24 |
rpedro | Sitouh: one sec, strange that ubotu didn't have the link.. | 05:24 |
dasGewitte1 | cruddpuppet: sudo apt-get install mplayer | 05:24 |
Don_jr | I clicked install and all it did was spin my CD for an hour and a half and nothing ever came up | 05:24 |
haiyai | nat problem | 05:24 |
Don_jr | so I'm burning at a slower rate now so maybe it'll install faster | 05:25 |
nich0s | w30, What is your favorite distro? How would I know what distro is right for me? | 05:25 |
Elda | Plus I like using the dos command line in conjuction with winblows so I think this will make things easier | 05:25 |
Elda | well now its just cmd but still | 05:25 |
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bruenig | elda, command line is a nice tool to use helps in a lot of situations | 05:25 |
Elda | I am guessing as much | 05:25 |
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Don_jr | IT's going to take me forever to get dos out of my head and lrean the proper commands in a linux console | 05:25 |
rpedro | Sitouh: read the howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo | 05:25 |
haiyai | nat problem no speed up and down | 05:25 |
tehsu | anyone | 05:25 |
bruenig | I never used DOS so I never had that problem | 05:25 |
nich0s | Don_jr, Man pages are your friends :P | 05:25 |
eternalswd | cvp that's exactly why I don't have a laptop, though you probably need it for travelling purposes. you might want to see if you can boot Live and mount the hard drives in there | 05:25 |
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Don_jr | man pages? | 05:26 |
haiyai | windows box works fine not router | 05:26 |
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Elda | Well dos is a little bit from this from what Ive seen | 05:26 |
tehsu | Whats a desktop cpu monitor program for linux | 05:26 |
qatsi | distantbody: are you there ? | 05:26 |
Elda | At least cd, and dir are the same xD | 05:26 |
tehsu | gdesktels? | 05:26 |
bruenig | ls instead of dir | 05:26 |
Elda | dir works too | 05:26 |
bruenig | or does dir work too | 05:26 |
Don_jr | msdos, dos, what ever....it's all dos and most people understand that! lol | 05:26 |
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distantbody | qatsi: message send | 05:26 |
nich0s | Don_jr, In nix, if you don't know what a command does, but you know the command you can type "man etc" and it will tell you everything that you would ever possibly want to know about that command and more. | 05:26 |
Elda | cp is copy in here right? | 05:26 |
bruenig | but ls has colors. only because it is aliased to do so in .bashrc I think so | 05:27 |
bruenig | though* | 05:27 |
nich0s | kinda like help, but WAAAY cooler :p | 05:27 |
cvp | eternalswd: What would success/failure indicate? Would backing up my data and reformatting/installing help, or does this mean that my hard-drive is permanently dead. | 05:27 |
Warbo | Don_jr: I grew up with AmigaDOS, so damn you all :) | 05:27 |
distantbody | qatsi: message *sent* | 05:27 |
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Elda | okey so its man and the command? | 05:27 |
Elda | I kept trying to do man --command here | 05:27 |
nich0s | si | 05:27 |
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nich0s | :P | 05:27 |
Don_jr | hehehe I first started learning to program on basicA | 05:27 |
qatsi | distantbody: i dont see anything : | 05:27 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: OR system > admin > system monitor | 05:27 |
nich0s | man rmdir | 05:27 |
lophyte | Elda: the best way for help is either man <command>, or the --help parameter to the command | 05:27 |
dr_willis | man man | 05:27 |
dr_willis | :) | 05:27 |
gidim | Okay, I need some professional help. | 05:27 |
Elda | Sad, I try to learn linux on my own and I still have to ask a man for help >.> | 05:27 |
eternalswd | cvp, well if you can mount the drive in Live, you might be able to network your files somewhere and reformat | 05:27 |
nich0s | man women | 05:27 |
Don_jr | haha Elda | 05:28 |
Elda | bad pun, but yeah >.> | 05:28 |
lophyte | Elda: LOL ;) | 05:28 |
nich0s | That is a long standing joke :p | 05:28 |
omoore | heh.. the funny thing about man.. is it man handles info.. the program nearly everything in man says replaces man.. but how many people actually use info i wonder | 05:28 |
distantbody | qatsi: this command will give you the default settings for xorg.comf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" | 05:28 |
Don_jr | I'm sorry, that has to suck at times | 05:28 |
jman8888 | What am i missing out on in 5.04 (compared to newer) because its working on my old pc(Previously running 2000 came with 98) and i like the fact that in the cd case it says i need at least 32mb ram to run (i have more than enough for that. Although my linux drive is only 4gigs... | 05:28 |
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Don_jr | but, remember it stands for Manual, as in do it yourself... | 05:28 |
Elda | so is it info or man? | 05:28 |
lophyte | man | 05:28 |
gidim | lol | 05:28 |
dr_willis | info info | 05:28 |
dr_willis | :P | 05:28 |
qatsi | distantbody: ok, ill try that :) thanks :) | 05:29 |
dr_willis | info is a different set of docs.. | 05:29 |
lophyte | man info? :P | 05:29 |
omoore | man.. that's what most everyone onthe planet who uses unix uses instead of info | 05:29 |
Warbo | Elda: Info is only really used by GNU utilities. Everything else uses man | 05:29 |
nich0s | man = manual = rtfm = READ THE F*&@ING MANUAL :P | 05:29 |
Elda | Just did that xD | 05:29 |
omoore | lol | 05:29 |
w30 | nich0s, I went from Slackware, which was simpler and more in line with command line Linux in the books that I had but it was not really modern. I then switched to RedHat through RedHat 9 and then went to Fedora. Fedora is not to stable because the switch versions too early in my opinion and they make a lot of broken updates. So I switched to Ubuntu about a week before they broke xorg. Ha | 05:29 |
fiendskull9 | im having problems uninstalling the xfonts-artwiz package. it errors out saying the --remove flag isnt reconized | 05:29 |
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omoore | info was supose to be a replacement for man i guess. but doesn't seem to ever have caught on | 05:29 |
Elda | Bah I am tired of the RTFM people.... I DID rtfm and freaking bought a book to try learning it once a long time ago. IT DIDNT HELP >.> | 05:29 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 05:29 |
lmosher | How does one mount and/or burn a .bin .cue file? | 05:29 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: what are you typing to remove it? | 05:29 |
Warbo | !info bchunk | 05:29 |
ubotu | bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB | 05:29 |
Elda | Then I tried asking on an irc network for help after RTFM and then they told me to RTFM -_- | 05:30 |
nich0s | w30, lol, I am looking for a decent distro that I would be able to put on to a laptop. | 05:30 |
fiendskull9 | lophyte: sudo apt-get remove xfonts-artwiz | 05:30 |
fiendskull9 | of course | 05:30 |
omoore | lmosher, to run a .bin, just set it as executable then run it... | 05:30 |
distantbody | Can someone please PRivately help kitsuneofdoom?... | 05:30 |
Elda | Then I stopped even bothering with linux for about 3 years until I found Ubuntu xD | 05:30 |
lmosher | omoore, :) .bin .cue | 05:30 |
eternalswd | tehsu, you should be able to add to a panel System Monitor | 05:30 |
Warbo | lmosher: Use bchunk to convert it to iso | 05:30 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: huh, that's strange | 05:30 |
cvp | eternalswd: I'm not concerned about backing up my data... I have a dual-boot machine, and I can pull stuff (slowly but surely) from my ext3 partition. I'm more concerned about not having to reformat... | 05:30 |
omoore | lmosher, chmod +x *.bin ... then .. ./whatever.bin | 05:30 |
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dr_willis | Elda, its amazing the # of linux help/guides/tutoral sites :) | 05:30 |
qatsi | thank you distantbody, now it works :D | 05:30 |
lmosher | omoore, lol dude. it's a CD-ROM format | 05:30 |
omoore | lmosher, i have no .cue tho | 05:30 |
Warbo | omoore: .bin .cue is a CD image (like .iso) | 05:30 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: can you paste the output to a pastebin? | 05:30 |
qatsi | good night, and good luck :) (to everyone) | 05:30 |
Elda | Then I tried breezy badger, couldnt get wireless to work, gave up and tried it again and I got wireless to work and here I am xD | 05:30 |
tuv | how can i see the boot messages on boot? i.e. escape the boot splash | 05:30 |
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fiendskull9 | !pastebin | 05:31 |
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lmosher | Warbo, tks :) | 05:31 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) | 05:31 |
distantbody | qatsi: Good to hear | 05:31 |
Elda | I tried those sites but was still evilly confused | 05:31 |
kitsuneofdoom | distantbody: sorry, was I posting too much? | 05:31 |
omoore | omoore, lmosher , fine! :) i just see alot of software that is .bin that is *not* an image | 05:31 |
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Elda | At that time Id been trying to set up the drivers for a ti-4600 so I could use open gl | 05:31 |
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Warbo | tuv: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8 (that is where they are after bootup at least) | 05:31 |
eternalswd | cvp, I don't have the technical expertise to help you beyond what I've suggested | 05:31 |
distantbody | kitsuneofdoom: NO, I would just like someone to help you:) | 05:31 |
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Elda | No help for that and google didnt even help | 05:31 |
fiendskull9 | lophyte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21525 | 05:31 |
cvp | eternalswd: Thanks! | 05:31 |
kitsuneofdoom | distantbody: thanks | 05:31 |
relachs | Hey, i am setting up my HDD for ubuntu, will this work? http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8800/partitionsny7.gif | 05:32 |
Elda | heck I even narrowed it down to the cause of needing new drivers by myself >.< | 05:32 |
Warbo | omoore: That is why I hate the culture of filename extensions. @.bin@ describes EVERYTHING on a computer, because it's all binary! | 05:32 |
Corporal_Dirge | Google is really bad at helping with technical issues. There's too much junk info on the web. | 05:32 |
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w30 | Ubuntu seems to be a good compromise between ease of use and available applications on repositories that take care of your dependicy requirements. | 05:32 |
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rdz | hi all. does somebody has installed oss2jack on dapper? i'd like to know how..... | 05:32 |
janbanan | If I wan't to install a theme on dapper... should it be GTK 2 or what? it says wrong file-format when I try to install | 05:32 |
omoore | tuv. you can see what the boot messages were using the dmesg command | 05:33 |
Don_jr | what are repositories? | 05:33 |
bruenig | relachs, looks good. I like a seperate home and / partition but that works | 05:33 |
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bruenig | !repos | 05:33 |
ubotu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource | 05:33 |
eternalswd | cvp, you might want to check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32328 once the forums stop timing out | 05:33 |
gidim | Um, well, I had 64-bit working just fine, then I went and reformatted to install 32-bit so I could run Opera native instead of under WINE, but the install didn't take... it just kind of hung there, so I reboot, drive not recognized, reboot and it is so I wipe the drive clean and try another install... the disc has no errors, it's fine, but for some reason it just doesn't install the OS, so now I have an hda1 that won't take an OS, and I'm | 05:33 |
w30 | nich0s, dependencies | 05:33 |
gidim | I really need to learn to leave well enough alone. | 05:33 |
relachs | bruenig ah its you, can i still access D: when i boot windows? | 05:33 |
jman8888 | Is there a hosts.ect for Ubuntu. There is some websites i need to block. | 05:33 |
Warbo | janbanan: GTK2 is GNOME's toolkit, so if you use GNOME (Ubuntu) then just drag the .tar.gz file into system>preferences>themes, or extract it in $HOME/.themes | 05:33 |
cvp | eternalswd: Will do. Thanks much. | 05:33 |
heyu | my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device" | 05:33 |
bruenig | relachs, I don't see why not | 05:33 |
cvp | On the issue of GNOME vs KDE, which do you guys suggest? I have a friend who is a KDE developer, and he keeps telling me to switch to KDE, but he IS a biased source... | 05:33 |
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tuv | omoore, i'm having boot problems and would like to see what is causing the problem while booting. i think i got it. booting off sata is broken in recent kernels. i have to use 2.6.15-23 | 05:34 |
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ElementalDragon | hi | 05:34 |
dr_willis | cvp, i mixx and match the 2. it dont matter to me at all. | 05:34 |
Acidfk | Hi | 05:34 |
bruenig | well linus likes KDE so I have to defer to him | 05:34 |
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Warbo | cvp: He is biased toward KDE, and I am biased toward GNOME. It is a preference | 05:34 |
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IcemanV9 | relachs: looks fine, but did you know that install CD can resize winxp partition w/o problem and then create a free space for Ubuntu automaticially. it worked nicely on my box. | 05:34 |
prophet | can someone help me with VALKNUT | 05:34 |
dr_willis | cvp, go old-skool and code in pure xlib goodness! :P | 05:34 |
darksoul_ | how would i get 32bit programs running on a 64bit os? and is opera 64bit out? | 05:34 |
gidim | I like GNOME, it's nice, I haven't tried KDE yet but the screens just scream Windows to me. | 05:34 |
relachs | bruenig because ubuntu, swap and d are surrounded by a light blue frame ^_^ | 05:34 |
Warbo | I personally use E16 inside GNOME | 05:35 |
relachs | wondering if that seperates it from c:\ | 05:35 |
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omoore | i would like to use ubuntu as my host os.. for work reasons, i must have an environment which will run vmware workstation reliably.. anyone here been running vmware workstation on ubuntu for a long time? | 05:35 |
eternalswd | cvp, I like gnome since most of my program preferences are gtk based. I'm sure if they were qt, I would prefer kde | 05:35 |
dr_willis | gidim, kde makes windows look like trash. :P | 05:35 |
Mixx` | dr_willis =) | 05:35 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: looks like the package is broken.. one sec | 05:35 |
fiendskull9 | lophyte: alright | 05:35 |
janbanan | Warbo: well thats exactly what I'm doing. but I get that message all the time | 05:35 |
nich0s | How would one go about seeing what KDE would look like? | 05:35 |
bruenig | relachs, windows should be able to read extended partitions. To be sure check in ##windows | 05:35 |
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omoore | (i tried fedora once, but fell back to centos because of updates occasionally breaking vmware beyond what vmware-conf.pl would fix) | 05:35 |
distantbody | omoore: long time:no, reliably: yes | 05:35 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: google | 05:35 |
gidim | IcemanV9: Can it really? My D or hdb1 is a 300GB storage drive that I'm afraid to resize for fear of losing data. | 05:35 |
darksoul_ | any 64bit users here? | 05:35 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: lynucs.org has alot of screenshots | 05:35 |
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ElementalDragon | I'm having a problem booting to the Live CD for Ubuntu 6.06.1 x86 AND x64...... is there a way to install it without booting Live? | 05:35 |
gidim | darksoul_: Sort of. | 05:36 |
bruenig | darksoul__, chroot or nothing | 05:36 |
dr_willis | nich0s, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and run it instead of gnome when you login. :P | 05:36 |
Don_jr | So certain programs will only run in one or the other, KDE or GNOME? | 05:36 |
BSG75 | can someone pls tell me how to turn off my eth0 device? | 05:36 |
gidim | AMD64, but I have no OS at the moment. ^^;; | 05:36 |
tehsu | eternalswd, nope no where in there | 05:36 |
Warbo | nich0s: kde-look.org ? (maybe without the hyphen, I forget) | 05:36 |
dr_willis | Don_jr, you can mix and match. | 05:36 |
omoore | distantbody, have you *ever* had an update break it (as in vmware-config.pl not able to reconfigure for a new kernel)? | 05:36 |
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IcemanV9 | gidim: never try on that large size. the biggest is 100Gb. it works fine. | 05:36 |
jman8888 | I love Ubuntu. It has great internet support. I have it connected to a Usb connected to my modem. And its acctually up on the pc i have for my sister. | 05:36 |
darksoul_ | Can anyone tell me how to get 32bit apps working on 64bit? | 05:36 |
dr_willis | Don_jr, may have a few little oddities here and there.. but not many these days | 05:36 |
bruenig | darksoul_ chroot | 05:36 |
Don_jr | thanx | 05:36 |
nich0s | Thanks all fot the answers :P | 05:36 |
Warbo | jman8888: What kind of modem? (I am interested in this sort of thing) | 05:36 |
bruenig | I am sure there are some tutorials in the forums on how to use chroot | 05:36 |
_priest | jman8888: not sure why you think its ubuntu itself that has this support | 05:36 |
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_priest | but ok | 05:36 |
giga | is there such thing as an ethernet splitter or kvm switch? | 05:37 |
Don_jr | I need to know if I have to watch for that. eings i"m new I don't want to install a program I can't use cause I"m on the wrong desktop...lol | 05:37 |
darksoul_ | chroot? | 05:37 |
nich0s | and thank you fiendskull9 for reminding why I hate working in association with Earthlinkk :P | 05:37 |
gidim | darksoul_: I tried. A lot. I read the how-to's, I just couldn't get them working. I worked for awhile on Opera. | 05:37 |
prophet | i cant connet to a room in valknut cans omeone hlep | 05:37 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: what? do you mean not wanting to download kubuntu-desktop and not like it? | 05:37 |
gidim | So, now I have a 32-bit and a 64-bit CD to choose from when I want to load a Live CD. | 05:37 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: I'm not exactly sure how to fix that.. have you tried browsing the forums? | 05:37 |
cvp | prophet: in general, stay away from Vulcans. They're bad news. | 05:37 |
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jman8888 | Surfboard Modem(Motorola) And it works great whitch is amazing because it was hard to get working in 2000, It took me forever. | 05:37 |
eternalswd | relachs, your ubuntu partition is a bit small, but I guess it depends on how many programs and how much updating/compiling you plan to do | 05:37 |
Pulshion | How to set contrast and brightness in ubuntu? | 05:37 |
bruenig | relachs, if need be. you should be able to move D: out of the extended partition. As you can have another primary partition | 05:37 |
gidim | My hda won't take install for some reason. | 05:37 |
darksoul_ | gidim, right now im looking to see if they have a 64bit opera out.. it not im going to get it working somehow. | 05:37 |
jman8888 | And i had to download so many drivers... | 05:37 |
matthew_w | Hey uh... I'm trying to VNC to a Windows box, ... possible? | 05:37 |
distantbody | omoore: no. Do you have the correct linux headers, gcc & g++? | 05:37 |
prophet | what else should i use | 05:37 |
Warbo | jman8888: OK, I've never heard of that :) | 05:37 |
fiendskull9 | lophyte: im looking right now, have you noticed an extreme slowness in the ubuntu forums lately? | 05:37 |
cvp | matthew_w: Yes. | 05:38 |
gidim | darksoul_: No, that was my want too. | 05:38 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, I'm just messin with ya, google is totally something that they would say. :P | 05:38 |
lophyte | fiendskull9: yeah, its been rather slow lately | 05:38 |
dasGewitte1 | what's the command to compile a file again? | 05:38 |
bruenig | Pulshion, isn't that a monitor thing | 05:38 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, You made me smile :) | 05:38 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: lol | 05:38 |
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janbanan | Warbo: I can install icons whit drag-drop but not themes | 05:38 |
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jordanau | Warbo, so you can see the router but not connect to it? | 05:38 |
Don_jr | okay, finally done burning at 2X, let's see if it loads any faster..... | 05:38 |
giga | ubuntuforums posted an announcement on their homepage about the lowness | 05:38 |
w30 | cvp, Gnome seems to be advancing faster but they are behind KDE in features so they better be faster. Besides Gnome was started because KDE was kind of alof and did things their way. I think Gnome has their ear to the community of Linux users more. At least for the moment. | 05:38 |
bruenig | Pulshion, try clicking the buttons on your monitor and messing around with those menus | 05:38 |
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gidim | darksoul_: They have no intention of releasing a 64-bit Opera when the 32-bit one works fine... but it doesn't work fine, not for me, for everybody else it works fine. | 05:38 |
haiyai | Azureus?? | 05:38 |
matthew_w | cvp: well... what the heck should I do? When I use vncviewer, it just gives me a freeze, because if I don't put the "screen number" it does nothing... afaik, there is no screen number @ windows... confusion? | 05:38 |
ElementalDragon | can someone help with my install problem....... preferably in a PM? | 05:38 |
Pulshion | bruenig -- yea but its all the way up and my monitor is fudged | 05:38 |
fiendskull9 | lophyte: well i hope i can get rid of this package, its disabling me from doing anything, even getting cpan modules! | 05:38 |
omoore | distantbody, it's not broke .. i'm currently running centos which has been rock solid for it... but i want to move to ubuntu for my host... | 05:38 |
bruenig | oh | 05:38 |
pushpop | is there a way to force an install? | 05:38 |
Warbo | janbanan: Try extracting the archive and putting it in $HOME/.themes (that folder is hidden) | 05:38 |
haiyai | bruenig do you ponder my problem? | 05:39 |
jman8888 | Warbo, Its a wireless modem but i only have one D-Link. I already was using the ethernet on the back so i went for a risk and Tried ubuntu with the usb connection. And it worked. | 05:39 |
nich0s | Let's say my computer... is kinda slow... I'm talking p2 technology... which desktop environment is going to be more suited to my lack of hardware? | 05:39 |
omoore | distantbody, it tried fedora once but an update (even withthe proper header (suposedly) for the runnign kernel broke it | 05:39 |
gidim | darksoul_: Hence I tried to install the 32-bit Ubuntu so I wouldn't have the Opera problem... I just failed miserably at it. | 05:39 |
cvp | matthew_w: *shrug* | 05:39 |
jman8888 | But where is the hosts.ect in ubuntu? | 05:39 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: fluxbox definately | 05:39 |
bruenig | haiyai, no idea, nat always worked well with me | 05:39 |
pushpop | Is there a way to force an install ex apt-get install ? | 05:39 |
relachs | Hmm, unfortunetely i dont see a way atm | 05:39 |
eternalswd | tehsu, try checking again after doing apt-get install gnome-applets | 05:39 |
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dr_willis | nich0s, one without lots of eyecandy | 05:39 |
cvp | matthew_w: I've had no problems... so I'm not sure I'm equipped to help you out. | 05:39 |
bruenig | you may be behind a firewall? | 05:39 |
Pulshion | bruenig -- my monitor is acting weird and its all the way up, in games like cs, doom3, the dark spots are pitch black and you cant see anything | 05:39 |
nich0s | dr_willis, I hate candy :p | 05:39 |
omoore | distantbody, and i just don't want to get into a situation where i have to fall back to 'plan b' again | 05:39 |
eternalswd | tehsu, * apt-get install gnome-applets | 05:39 |
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eternalswd | tehsu, * sudo apt-get install gnome-applets | 05:39 |
darksoul_ | why doesn't ubuntu 64 allow 32bit to run without coding? i just dont understand that | 05:39 |
giga | s_h_a_d_o_w_s on the forums | 05:39 |
tehsu | already the newst.. | 05:40 |
Don_jr | Does ubuntu come with a pre-installed firewall? | 05:40 |
matthew_w | Can anyone point me to a FAQ on VNCing into a windows box? or tell me what I'm doing wrong? | 05:40 |
Warbo | !firewall | 05:40 |
gidim | darksoul_: It's a matter of the libraries you have installed. | 05:40 |
ubotu | Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface) | 05:40 |
distantbody | omoore: If it gets broken. just reinstall it, as long as your virtual machines are fine.... | 05:40 |
jman8888 | ... Now im being ignored... | 05:40 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: i have quite a few screenshots demonstrating fluxbox (what i use), and it uses about 100mb ram. and occaisonally 1% of my p4 | 05:40 |
Pulshion | Don_jr -- get firestarter | 05:40 |
tehsu | eternalswd, its, already installed.. | 05:40 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: just the kde wallet system uses 100mb ram :D | 05:40 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_w: have you already looked at the VNC web site? | 05:40 |
omoore | distantbody, yeah.. i know.. but... | 05:40 |
bruenig | darksoul_, it is supposed to be available in edgy, a multiarch system. Do any other OSes have the ability to run both 64 and 32, I am asking because I don't know does windows? | 05:40 |
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dr_willis | Don_jr, linux has firewalling fetures built in.. you can install more powerfull config/front ends to the basic firealling features. | 05:40 |
Warbo | jman8888: Do you mean /etc/hosts? | 05:40 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, Assuming that I know nothing about linux.(period) How would I go about obtaining and replacing my shell | 05:40 |
dasGewitte1 | what's the command to compile a file? | 05:40 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, ROFL | 05:40 |
Don_jr | Okay, I've got to get it installed and hope my wireless card works as I've been told it will before I wory about it. | 05:40 |
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nich0s | fiendskull9, And KDE is out the window for me :P | 05:41 |
dr_willis | nich0s, which 'shell' are you refering to? | 05:41 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: do you have ubuntu installed? | 05:41 |
jman8888 | Warbo, ? Will i be able to block sites like in windows with it? | 05:41 |
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fiendskull9 | dr_willis: he might be using the wrong terminology | 05:41 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, Yes | 05:41 |
dr_willis | nich0s, you using 'shell' in the windows way - meaning the GUI/Desktop? | 05:41 |
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prophet | anyone? | 05:41 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: sudo apt-get install fluxbox | 05:41 |
omoore | distantbody, fedora had a miss-match of theheaders witht he running kernel at one point.. which meant that vmware-config.pl would nver work (even witht he support mod ) | 05:41 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: then log out to gdm | 05:41 |
m0nkeys | HI | 05:41 |
nich0s | dr_willis, The server environment :P (is a gates baby) osrry | 05:41 |
darksoul_ | bruenig, No, i dont think so, i never really tried it on windows, but i would think they would have both librarys installed, just the 64bit as the main one.. | 05:41 |
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tehsu | eternalswd, any ideas onw how i can get my cpu and gpu to run cooler and slower in linux? | 05:41 |
dr_willis | nich0s, if you have different windowmanagers/dekstops installed the GDM login menu has where you pick what one to use. | 05:41 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: select sessions from the options menu in bottom left corner | 05:41 |
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UncleOp22 | matthew_w: http://www.realvnc.com/ | 05:42 |
Pulshion | is there a way to set contrast and brightness using some apps, i used to be able to use catalyst control center in windows how do i do it in ubuntu? | 05:42 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: and select fluxbox | 05:42 |
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jman8888 | Warbo, ? | 05:42 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22; Yes; and I'm going over it again now. | 05:42 |
omoore | distantbody, i ended up having to downgrade the kernel to get vmware back up... | 05:42 |
fiendskull9 | Pulshion: install the ati drivers, and the atitool | 05:42 |
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darksoul_ | Is the ubuntu forums down? | 05:42 |
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distantbody | omoore: but if you install the correct header on Ubuntu it will install fine | 05:42 |
profoX` | Pulshion: ati has a tool to change a few settings on linux.. | 05:42 |
Don_jr | Also, running ubuntu am I going to need to, or should I, log in and out each use? | 05:42 |
profoX` | Pulshion: how is it called again.. | 05:42 |
tehsu | Does anyone know how to get the cpu and gpu to run at a lower mhz at all times? | 05:42 |
m0nkeys | Does anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? ) | 05:42 |
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omoore | distantbody, right.. i follow... | 05:42 |
tuv | is there a simple way to show the Home folder icon on the desktop? | 05:42 |
profoX` | Pulshion: only available if you installed the fglrx drivers though | 05:42 |
relachs | Hmmm, when i tried ubuntu few days ago, i could only enter a WEP key, but i need to setup for WPA i think, or the other way around | 05:42 |
emoboy | hey...anyone here have time for a quick question | 05:42 |
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omoore | distantbody, i just wanted to hear from someone using it that things work well | 05:42 |
relachs | for WLAN | 05:42 |
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Pulshion | profoX` -- i have driver installed already | 05:42 |
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profoX` | Pulshion: then it should be around somewhere :) | 05:43 |
omoore | distantbody, before i went through the bother of building another host environment | 05:43 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, gdm??? (nich0s =! moron) returns false alot :P | 05:43 |
IcemanV9 | !ask > emoboy | 05:43 |
profoX` | Pulshion: fglrx-control | 05:43 |
matthew_w | What would the screen number be for a Windows Box | 05:43 |
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UncleOp22 | matthew_w: when I (rarely) start up my winblows box, I have set VNC to auto-start as a service. Did you do that already? It will show up in the system tray. | 05:43 |
profoX` | Pulshion: i think thats the command | 05:43 |
wooya510 | Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in my system. Maybe, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages? | 05:43 |
matthew_w | !ask > matthew_w | 05:43 |
Munchkinguy | Is it possible to get OpenOffice Draw to do facing pages? | 05:43 |
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matthew_w | UncleOp22; yes. | 05:43 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: join the channel #omg real quick, this place is really congested | 05:43 |
omoore | distantbody, i've used vmware reliably since pre 1.0.. the fedora 5 hickup has been the only time i had a problem | 05:43 |
relachs | i reboot (see you in ubuntu, i hope *g*) | 05:43 |
emoboy | anyone have any experience running/installing ubuntu under windows and Parallels Workstation? | 05:43 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- command not fund | 05:44 |
profoX` | Pulshion: The control panel shows detailed information on your display adapter and allows you to set dual screen options, adjust gamma correction and set TV out options. | 05:44 |
distantbody | omoore: sure. All I can say is that I have had VMWARE player (free) and Server (also free) and the work fine. | 05:44 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_2: don't set a screen number. Just use the hostname (or IP address) | 05:44 |
w30 | tuv, what window manager are you using? | 05:44 |
profoX` | Pulshion: slocate fglrx-control | 05:44 |
tuv | w30, gnome | 05:44 |
wooya510 | Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in my system. Perhaps, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages? | 05:44 |
m0nkeys | Does anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? ) | 05:44 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22; then VNC viewer acts as though I didn't put in an IP address. | 05:44 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- still nothing | 05:44 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: and just clears the box | 05:44 |
omoore | distantbody, k.. i use player on most boxes.. but prefer workstation.. the extrea features are easily worth the cost :) | 05:44 |
prophet | is there anything else other then valkntu | 05:44 |
IcemanV9 | !ask > wooya510 | 05:44 |
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profoX` | Pulshion: okay that's strange.. try apt-getting it? sudo apt-get install fglrx-control | 05:44 |
omoore | distantbody, the whole snapshot thing is very sweet | 05:44 |
piratepenguin | what do these messages mean in my dmesg? "ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 1571906" I've got about 20 of 'em | 05:45 |
kitsuneofdoom | I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks | 05:45 |
sizzam | fyi - forums are back up | 05:45 |
emoboy | how do i install ubuntu under a virtual machine....do i need a partition to install it to? | 05:45 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- yep, installed it | 05:45 |
profoX` | Pulshion: otherwise try: fireglconfig | 05:45 |
distantbody | omoore: yes, i have had workstation, and snapshoots sure are great... | 05:45 |
profoX` | Pulshion: or firegl-config fglrxconfig fglrx-config .. one of those | 05:45 |
omoore | distantbody, not to mention the cloning, video, auto sizing of displays, etc | 05:45 |
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Pulshion | profoX` -- thats a lot of commands lol | 05:46 |
profoX` | Pulshion: one of them is the right one :p | 05:46 |
omoore | distantbody, (creating video, not video cards) | 05:46 |
hayden | how do i enable dma on my dvd drive | 05:46 |
tehsu | i still cant find anything for cpu temp | 05:46 |
w30 | tuv click on places in the panel and then when you see home folder click and drag it to a blank space on the desktop | 05:46 |
profoX` | IcemanV9: me neither.. lol | 05:46 |
tehsu | gdesktels is crap | 05:46 |
omoore | emoboy, are you asking about a vmware virtual machine? | 05:46 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: type "acpi -t" to see the temp | 05:46 |
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Pulshion | profoX` -- haha none worked | 05:46 |
tuv | w30, thanks alot.. that was easy.. exactly what i'm looking for! | 05:47 |
emoboy | well im actually wondering about a parallels VM, but i would assume its a similar process | 05:47 |
distantbody | omoore:cloneing = copy & paste :-P | 05:47 |
emoboy | bascially i want to run ubuntu under windows without dual booting | 05:47 |
dr_willis | emoboy, qemu can do that. | 05:47 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22; any idea why it does this? | 05:47 |
dr_willis | emoboy, or vmware | 05:47 |
omoore | distantbody, yeah.. pretty much.. except you can clone a snapshot too | 05:47 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_w: Dumb question: have you gotten VNC to work before? When I VNC "into" another system from Linux (RH9 - ubuntu someday), I get a box that says, "VNC server:". When I provide the hostname, it then "clears" that dialog and puts up a new prompt for the VNC password. | 05:47 |
profoX` | Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/firegl-config | 05:47 |
profoX` | Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrol | 05:47 |
tehsu | IcemanV9, how can i check what clock its running at | 05:47 |
profoX` | I mean | 05:47 |
wooya510 | There is user who know this debug message about LDAP? - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" | 05:47 |
profoX` | Pulshion: the last one :) try that | 05:48 |
w30 | tuv, then right click on the folder and go to properties and click on the icon and pick out a house picture :=) | 05:48 |
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emoboy | hmm well i have a parallels reg key already, so i would like to use that | 05:48 |
wubrgamer | hey guys | 05:48 |
wubrgamer | hey guys | 05:48 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22; Yes, I've had it working Ubuntu to Ubuntu. Because I go 192.168.1.5:0 for the 0.0 Xserver screen. | 05:48 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: not sure which command to find out its clock running | 05:48 |
emoboy | when using a VM, do you install to the HD first then use the VM to boot that install? | 05:48 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- odd, is it X11R6 or just X11? | 05:48 |
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wubrgamer | why is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ? | 05:48 |
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matthew_w | UncleOp22: However, to Windows, it goes Vnc Server: and then I punch in the IP, and it just gives me a prompt for the server again. | 05:48 |
profoX` | Pulshion: X11R6 | 05:49 |
profoX` | Pulshion: odd indeed | 05:49 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_w: so try this: in an xterm of your choice, type "vncviewer hostname" and see if it prompts you for a password... | 05:49 |
BSG75 | is there a way to tell ubuntu to not look for my nic at boot? | 05:49 |
tuv | w30, where do i look for the picture? | 05:49 |
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UncleOp22 | BSG75: um, install debian instead? :-) | 05:49 |
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BSG75 | I am this close | 05:49 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- btw in that folder all tehre is is X | 05:49 |
profoX` | Pulshion: doesnt that work? its from the official manual -- and i remember that that worked on my previous laptop | 05:50 |
BSG75 | it's my wife's puter .. and ubuntu is really good for her | 05:50 |
profoX` | i run ati radeon 7500 now -- not fglrx | 05:50 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- where can i get the manual | 05:50 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: huhmm... No, just seems to give me copyright info and stop. | 05:50 |
eternalswd | tehsu, sorry can't help you with heat control and I couldn't turn anything up from the forums | 05:50 |
emoboy | any ideas :( | 05:50 |
BSG75 | but this no control crap is driving me nuts :( | 05:50 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- sorry for the hastle | 05:50 |
mitype2 | Hi all I'm new to Linux and having a terrible time getting used to it | 05:50 |
profoX` | Pulshion: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html | 05:50 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: I don't get why - the computer that is running it is running it, it's in a DMZ, it's all correct... | 05:50 |
w30 | tuv right click on the hom folder icon and then click on properties and then click on the folder picture of that window | 05:50 |
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wubrgamer | why is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ? | 05:50 |
distantbody | emoboy:please restate question | 05:51 |
profoX` | Pulshion: newer version: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8.html | 05:51 |
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IcemanV9 | tehsu: i think i found the command -- sudo powernowd -v | 05:51 |
emoboy | when using a VM, do you install to the HD partition first (as you usually would) then use the VM to boot that install? | 05:51 |
emoboy | or is there an easier way | 05:51 |
tuv | w30, i got that.. but in what folder to i find a house icon file? | 05:51 |
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Pulshion | profoX` -- where to check what version of drivers i haev installed? | 05:51 |
emoboy | im talking VM's in general, im actually using parallels | 05:51 |
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fiendskull9 | note to self, never apt-get install linux for fun | 05:51 |
fiendskull9 | hahaha | 05:51 |
distantbody | emoboy:install what ? VMWare? | 05:51 |
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emoboy | i want to install ubuntu | 05:52 |
emoboy | under windows using parallels | 05:52 |
eternalswd | wubrgamer, the 1.5.0.6 update was to fix a regression for windows media plugin, so windows only | 05:52 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_w: If it's really "all correct", consider going the other way around: windows into ubuntu/linux. If that works, then you may need to specifically tell the windoze vncserver to allow external connections. But IIRC, it pretty much "just worked" for me. | 05:52 |
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distantbody | emoboy: i'll private message | 05:52 |
emoboy | so would i install ubuntu from the cd as usual, then boot XP and run the VM | 05:52 |
emoboy | ok thx | 05:52 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22; the windows to ubuntu one works flawlessly, tried that like an hour ago. | 05:52 |
ElementalDragon | can someone please help me out....... prefferably in a PM? | 05:52 |
omoore | emoboy, for *vmware*.. you create a virtual machine.. a virtual machine consists of a virutal hard drive that will grow to a designated size.. however... | 05:52 |
wubrgamer | but there IS a 1.5.0.6 for linux | 05:52 |
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omoore | emoboy, initially.. the virutal hard drive is *not* partitioned | 05:53 |
profoX` | Pulshion: wait.. i am wrong ... | 05:53 |
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omoore | emoboy, it si the job of the os to partition it... | 05:53 |
profoX` | thats about aticonfig.. thats to configure the drivers and edit xorg -- not to change colors etc | 05:53 |
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eternalswd | wubrgamer, that's news to me | 05:53 |
tehsu | IcemanV9, i wonder if i can set it to never go up past a certain level | 05:53 |
profoX` | stupid ATI | 05:53 |
omoore | emoboy, so your virtual machine has a virtuarl cpu/hd/cdrom/nic/etc.. | 05:53 |
UncleOp22 | matthew_w: Hrm. OK, lemme' power up the spawn of Redmond. It will take a couple... | 05:53 |
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wubrgamer | meybe they just bumped the version number to keep it all on the same track ? | 05:53 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: It's ok! | 05:53 |
emoboy | so i can partition during the install under parallels? and then install to the actual harddrive? | 05:53 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: I will go over to the windows box and tinker. | 05:53 |
tehsu | anyone know about underclocking the ati x700 mobile gpu | 05:53 |
matthew_w | UncleOp22: Thanks | 05:53 |
omoore | emoboy, then you boot the vm, of the cd (cd image) and install the os into the os as you normally would... | 05:54 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- ahh im so confused now lol | 05:54 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: not sure .. that's what i am looking for an answer myself. :) | 05:54 |
omoore | emoboy, but that's vwmare.. i dont' know about parallels | 05:54 |
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tehsu | k | 05:54 |
tehsu | ty | 05:54 |
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profoX` | Pulshion: yea me too.. blame ati | 05:54 |
distantbody | emoboy: Did you get my message? | 05:54 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- drivers work fine tho | 05:54 |
omoore | emoboy, if it works like vm's i've used, yes.. you'd partition during install... | 05:54 |
ElementalDragon | Why can't i boot into Ubuntu Live? | 05:54 |
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w30 | tuv, there should be some pictures of icons show up in a window, scroll through the pictures if they show up. | 05:54 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- i run doom3, cs on high settings no lags whatesoever | 05:54 |
emoboy | i did not distant...running irc on Opera :( | 05:54 |
profoX` | Pulshion: nice | 05:54 |
omoore | emoboy, the ones i have uses only create a virtual hard drive... not a virtual hard drive partition | 05:54 |
profoX` | i dont know where to find it then | 05:54 |
profoX` | did you do an slocate | 05:55 |
profoX` | on euhm | 05:55 |
profoX` | slocate firegl | 05:55 |
profoX` | and slocate fglrx | 05:55 |
profoX` | ? | 05:55 |
distantbody | emoby: ok. | 05:55 |
agib | hey, could anyone give me advice: I want to set up an ubuntu LAMP (maybe rails) server and I have a comp sitting around with 2 75GB hdds in it -- what would the best partitioning scheme be? is software RAID worth it? | 05:55 |
omoore | emoboy, but again.. i don't even know what parallels is | 05:55 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: instead of gdesklets, try this one -- multiload_applet (cpu, load avg, mem, net, swap) | 05:55 |
distantbody | emoboy: Just use VMWare. | 05:55 |
tehsu | k | 05:55 |
omoore | emoboy, i agree with distantbody .. vmware is a really good virtual machine | 05:55 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- yea i did slocate firegl right now and i got fireglcontrolpanel | 05:55 |
BSG75 | finally :) the damn thing was trying to load Intel 3945 wireless driver .. | 05:56 |
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eternalswd | wubrgamer, they probably update all of their numbers for every OS even when an update only affects one for file management consistency, but I assure you that 1.5.0.6 for linux is the same as 1.5.0.5 | 05:56 |
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BSG75 | I am hoping NOW it will load the ndis driver | 05:56 |
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ISOLATEDViRuS | i have a question, i have all of the dependencies for XGL and Compiz, how do i enable it? | 05:56 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- it was weird, i restarted the terminal | 05:56 |
tehsu | IcemanV9, do u know the aptget for it | 05:56 |
emoboy | ok ill try that then | 05:56 |
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Pulshion | profoX` -- it worked now | 05:56 |
emoboy | thanks guys, ill let you know | 05:56 |
profoX` | Pulshion: yea lol.. stupid ati ._. | 05:56 |
profoX` | :P | 05:56 |
wooya510 | I have a problem about LDAP Configuration. | 05:56 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- stupid me maybe haha | 05:56 |
profoX` | with their stupid control panel | 05:56 |
profoX` | being so hidden | 05:56 |
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tehsu | IcemanV9, have u ever underclocked a gpu | 05:57 |
profoX` | Pulshion: noo! never blame yourself ;) it's always the proprietary programs that are wrong ;) | 05:57 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- all i can change in the control panel is gamma | 05:57 |
profoX` | Pulshion: well.. | 05:57 |
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profoX` | really? | 05:57 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: i think it is already installed .. and no, i never underclocked gpu before | 05:57 |
wooya510 | There is users who know this debug messages - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" | 05:57 |
profoX` | i thoughr brightness too | 05:57 |
distantbody | emoboy: use VMware Server, its free and you can make new virtual machines withit (as oppose to just the player) | 05:57 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- it took me a whole night find out why x was crashing and it was because my dad switched the video in cable :( | 05:57 |
profoX` | Pulshion: cant u just use your monitor to change brightness too? | 05:58 |
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tehsu | i really wanna underclock mine on my laptop, its constantly runing a sucking battery | 05:58 |
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Kragnerac | Hello, does anybody know how to switch from Xorg to Xair? | 05:58 |
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profoX` | Kragnerac: what is Xair | 05:58 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- my monitor is going bad, so i have no clue but everything is dark, even if brightness and contrast are all the way up, in windy i used catalyst to change settings | 05:58 |
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ISOLATEDViRuS | How do i enable XGL? | 05:59 |
nich0s | All should praise fiendskull9 for he teaches n00bs in a friendly direct and generally awesome manner :) | 05:59 |
distantbody | emoboy: (I think he has left ;) Free for Linux, Windows, No Mac version (tho comming very soon) | 05:59 |
fiendskull9 | hehehe | 05:59 |
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profoX` | ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl | 05:59 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: you can feel more at home with my fluxbox theme, lol | 05:59 |
kitsuneofdoom | ok, now I realize I hae a new problem. I have a broadcom card, a 4319, and it is extremely sensitive to low signals in Linux, rejecting a lot of things it accepts fine in windows | 06:00 |
fiendskull9 | nich0s: to install themes, you need to put them in ~/.fluxbox/styles/ | 06:00 |
kitsuneofdoom | I even thought it didn't work, until I tried it right next to the router | 06:00 |
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fiendskull9 | nich0s: join #omg again | 06:00 |
nich0s | fiendskull9, check the other channel for my log :P | 06:00 |
eternalswd | !xgl | 06:00 |
ubotu | Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems | 06:00 |
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emoboy | :) still here...thanks guys ill try it | 06:01 |
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x1977x | does anyone know why i would get this line: "E: Couldn't find package fglrx" when i try to apt-get it? ("sudo apt-get install fglrx") i have all the binary repositories checked... | 06:01 |
robert_ | I need to install headers so I can compile gaim-2.0.0-beta3 :/ | 06:01 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- should i update the drivers? i have 8.25.18 installed? | 06:01 |
IcemanV9 | tehsu: wish i knew the answer .. this is definitely on my "to-do" list. i'd like to know how to control its cpu step as well. | 06:01 |
UncleOp22 | did matthew_w of the VNC problem come back? | 06:01 |
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kitsuneofdoom | x1977x: I think the package is called something else | 06:01 |
profoX` | Pulshion: not if everything works fine -- unless you REALLY want the newest drivers but then you'll have to install them manually | 06:01 |
jman8888 | Please Awnser me. Would a pc slow down if upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10? | 06:01 |
kitsuneofdoom | x1977x: xorg-driver-fglrx or something | 06:01 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- yea, everything does work fine, but usually the newer the better | 06:02 |
profoX` | xserver-xorg-fglrx x1977x | 06:02 |
profoX` | no | 06:02 |
profoX` | what kitsuneofdoom says | 06:02 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- in breezy i could not get my drivers to work so i switched bak to windy, now i aint going bak lol | 06:02 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: I don't believe so, but the latest version is 6.06. it depends on the window manager a lot | 06:02 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: check out xubuntu 6.06 | 06:02 |
eternalswd | robert_, I have a source for gaim2 beta three that you can add to sources.lst, but as I recall, you need libc6 from edgy for it to work | 06:02 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: or use openbox or fluxbox | 06:03 |
wooya510 | Users who know about LDAP configuration help me, plz | 06:03 |
thedude45 | hey, wierd question.. anyone had success running their linux box as a gateway using a wired nic to connect to internet, and wirless to connect to internal network | 06:03 |
Don_jr | Are there any other nix installs that are only 1 cd? | 06:03 |
ElementalDragon | profox: any chance you might be able to be of some assistance to a problem i'm having booting to Ubuntu Live? | 06:03 |
thedude45 | is it even possible | 06:03 |
BSG75 | anyone know where does ubuntu loads it's mods from? | 06:03 |
thedude45 | Don_jr, debian | 06:03 |
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profoX` | ElementalDragon: which problem | 06:03 |
Rusty1 | Don_jr: kanotix | 06:03 |
profoX` | Pulshion: that sucks :P | 06:03 |
profoX` | Pulshion: i'd say -- buy a new monitor lol | 06:04 |
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distantbody | Don_jr: I really hope you get Ubuntu working because its really worth it... | 06:04 |
ElementalDragon | well.... with the x86 version, i choose the first option, to boot to Live or install Ubuntu | 06:04 |
n1xt3r | wooya510: read the man pages and run ldap in debug mode | 06:04 |
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ElementalDragon | it get's to the Ubuntu loading screen, where it loads everything it needs to run off the Live CD.... | 06:04 |
wooya510 | n1xt3r, //i did it | 06:04 |
tehsu | IcemanV9, i would really like to control the step and the gpu clock and ill be staying on ubuntu for my laptop | 06:04 |
ElementalDragon | then it comes to the black screen with a blinking underscore cursor in the top left corner, the cursor blinks a couple times, then stops | 06:04 |
UncleOp22 | Don-jr: knoppix, too, I think. Then there's DSL (Damned Small Linux) | 06:04 |
tehsu | till then back to windows | 06:04 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- have to wait till my bday, but i wanna play some doom lol...just looking for a solution since i had this monitor for so long and played games fine in windy with my custom setting in catalyst | 06:04 |
wooya510 | n1xt3r, i did it | 06:04 |
Don_jr | I'm workin on it still, I booted the computerand it was setting up ubuntu and came back downstairs and the computer was shut off | 06:05 |
profoX` | Pulshion: well -- that sucks :P | 06:05 |
SlaSheR84 | how come my ubuntu server cd boots once then never again? | 06:05 |
profoX` | Pulshion: i know you can change brightness in nvidia fine.. | 06:05 |
profoX` | havent run an ati in a while | 06:05 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- darn ati | 06:05 |
x1977x | synaptic says i have "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" already, and i got the same error with "xserver-xorg-fglrx"..any thoughts? | 06:06 |
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IcemanV9 | tehsu: sorry about that, but keep googling for holy grail answer. (i'll do the same for myself) | 06:06 |
Don_jr | distantbody If linux is so compatible, what would be the difference in getting one over the other? wouldn't most things that work in red hat work in ubuntu and in debian aswell? | 06:06 |
wooya510 | n1xt3r: "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" you know this debug message? | 06:06 |
tehsu | yeah | 06:06 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- is this the only control panel they got? | 06:06 |
ElementalDragon | profox: want me to just PM you with the issue i'm having? | 06:06 |
ElementalDragon | easier to keep track that way | 06:06 |
profoX` | ElementalDragon: if you think i am the right person to ask -- yes | 06:07 |
jman8888 | kitsuneofdoom, So even though 5.04 says it needs 32mb ! It will run the same as 5.10 or 6.06? | 06:07 |
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profoX` | Pulshion: i think so.. maybe theres an other one that can change brightness but i dont know where you would be able to get it :) | 06:07 |
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Don_jr | I"m having the ubuntu boot check the CD for errors then will try and install again if it's all clear | 06:07 |
sivanicon | How do i get the rest of my monitors resolutions to come up? | 06:07 |
Don_jr | OMG, there's exe files on this? | 06:08 |
XxXBrAnDoNXxX | How do I make a bootable floppy? | 06:08 |
Don_jr | I didn't think nix systems used .exe files | 06:08 |
n1xt3r | n1xt3r: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for? | 06:08 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- ok thanx for the help anyway, and you said i can set dual monitors, tv out/in in the control panel, where at? | 06:08 |
jman8888 | kitsuneofdoom, ? Can i feel safe upgrading | 06:08 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: what you want to do is a server install. That will just install the base packages, and a text interface. Then you just get openbox | 06:08 |
distantbody | Don_jr: Each distro focuses on different aspects | 06:08 |
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kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: or keep just the text interface if you want | 06:09 |
Don_jr | okay, but theoretically, you could add anything to one that you could another right? | 06:09 |
supernix | Welp I am now running Gnome so I am now semi ubuntu | 06:09 |
XxXBrAnDoNXxX | How do I make a bootable floppy in linux? | 06:09 |
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Don_jr | so it's only a matter of getting the most from the original install? | 06:09 |
supernix | I still like my kubuntu though | 06:09 |
jrsims | anyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome? | 06:09 |
Don_jr | so there's less to get later | 06:09 |
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profoX` | Pulshion: tv out -- somewhere -- about dual monitors im not sure, but you can do that with aticonfig for sure (that will edit xorg.conf iirc) | 06:09 |
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profoX` | its been awhile since i ran ati fglrx:) | 06:10 |
distantbody | Don_jr: yes, but sometimes it's more hassle than its worth | 06:10 |
Pulshion | profoX` -- there is no gui to set that up? i have my xorg edited right now | 06:10 |
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Don_jr | So Ubuntu, in your oppinion, is the most compatible for new users then? | 06:10 |
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distantbody | Don_jr: and you might as just well install that different distro... | 06:10 |
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distantbody | Don_jr:Yes | 06:11 |
kerwonz | hi i need some help, i ready installed ubuntu dapper, but i cant load windows :( i dont know how to do this... what can i do? | 06:11 |
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Don_jr | Okay, I'll stick with trying, and if it doesn't work out...I'll order the CD from them....heh | 06:11 |
tjcarter | hm, ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning, "we like brown, so shush!" | 06:11 |
profoX` | Pulshion: i don't think so | 06:11 |
IcemanV9 | jman8888: this thread might help ya -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224723&highlight=install+small+ram | 06:11 |
tjcarter | hey chalcedony | 06:11 |
IcemanV9 | tjcarter: lol | 06:11 |
XxXBrAnDoNXxX | How do I make a bootable floppy in linux, anyone? | 06:11 |
profoX` | kerwonz: sudo fdisk -l -- post output on www.pastebin.ca | 06:12 |
profoX` | kerwonz: you mean you can't boot windows anymore, right? | 06:12 |
Don_jr | I sat here for almost an hour and a half waiting for this to install and nothing....re burned the CD. This is a pain | 06:12 |
kerwonz | profoX, yes | 06:12 |
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Don_jr | but if it works, will be well worth it | 06:12 |
tjcarter | IcemanV9: according to feh (other network), it may also mean "Can't install Debian", "Sick of compiling Gentoo", or "My friends will laugh at me if I buy a Mac"... | 06:12 |
IcemanV9 | Don_jr: did you md5sum the CD? | 06:12 |
Don_jr | get me away from microsoft is all I care...lol | 06:13 |
profoX` | kerwonz: do you know how to open a terminal window? | 06:13 |
kerwonz | profoX: http://pastebin.ca/147124 | 06:13 |
_relachs | bi need help with assigning Mountpoints to Partitions | 06:13 |
distantbody | Don_jr: It may be the disc drive/laser... | 06:13 |
Don_jr | no, not sure exactly what that means or how to us eit | 06:13 |
profoX` | kerwonz: ok wait | 06:13 |
kerwonz | profoX: yes i know. | 06:13 |
Don_jr | the cd has run anything else I"ve ever put in it | 06:13 |
Don_jr | the cdrom that is | 06:13 |
IcemanV9 | Don_jr: it'll check if CD is ok or not | 06:13 |
kerwonz | so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault | 06:13 |
w30 | XxXBrAnDoNXxX, at the cooam line type mkboot | 06:13 |
tjcarter | IcemanV9: or maybe it just means, "It's sure nice to have a dist that actually works." | 06:13 |
Don_jr | okay, getting GUI now, we're moving along this time | 06:13 |
kerwonz | profoX: so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault but doesnt works :( | 06:13 |
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IcemanV9 | tjcarter: :) | 06:14 |
w30 | XxXBrAnDoNXxX, maybe better type mkboot -help | 06:14 |
Don_jr | no errors durring the load sequence | 06:14 |
profoX` | kerwonz: now type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst -- and copy that file to www.pastebin.ca -- and I'll tell you if somethings wrong and/or if you have to change something | 06:14 |
XxXBrAnDoNXxX | w30 thanx | 06:14 |
distantbody | Don_jr: That sounds positive:) | 06:14 |
profoX` | (hd0,4) should be right though | 06:14 |
jrsims | anyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome? | 06:14 |
jman8888 | kitsuneofdoom, No the acctual Cd Case (from shipit) said it needs 32 mb ram (but i have 128 so i should be ok with 5.10) i dont think i can handle 6.06... (How can i upgrade from a Cd. | 06:14 |
Don_jr | it's gone this far once before, I had it runnin on live CD properly | 06:14 |
IcemanV9 | Don_jr: we're behind ya! :) | 06:14 |
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kontiki | Hi - What sw lets me view the bash terminal sessions in real time, for people logged into my box? (laptop) | 06:15 |
Don_jr | then when I clicked install, I sat here for an hour and a half with nothing to show me it was doing anything......and was suggested I reburn the ISO at a slower speed and it might speed up the install process | 06:15 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: I'm not impressed that greater versions mean greater ram consumption neccesarily | 06:15 |
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kitsuneofdoom | 128 should be fine with 6.06 server install | 06:15 |
kerwonz | profoX: oks | 06:15 |
kitsuneofdoom | jman8888: sorry, see two above | 06:15 |
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Don_jr | gaim is compatible with MSN correct? and there's an IRC client built into ubuntu? | 06:16 |
tjcarter | the gooey thing on the CD.. Is that isolinux or some really abused GRUB? Anyway, if I leave it running for a few seconds, it locks. | 06:16 |
kitsuneofdoom | Don_jr: I think there's one in gaim | 06:16 |
distantbody | Don_jr gaim is preinstalled | 06:16 |
sapaki | does any of you know what this is: | 06:16 |
Don_jr | as long as both of those are true with firefox, it'll do everything I want it to. | 06:16 |
n1xt3r | wooya510: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for? | 06:16 |
tjcarter | anything I can do within 10 seconds to get it the hell out of that gooey will cause the system to work fine. | 06:16 |
IcemanV9 | jman8888: i have installed dapper flight x on 128mb box before it dies without any problem. | 06:16 |
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kerwonz | profoX: http://pastebin.ca/147125 | 06:16 |
jman8888 | kitsuneofdoom, But its a gnome install. Works great and fast with 5.04 so i just want to know how to use the cd to upgrade. | 06:16 |
tjcarter | I think it's the shared mem | 06:16 |
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jman8888 | IcemanV9, Dapper flight | 06:17 |
sapaki | linux source tree make is incomplete or missing! S | 06:17 |
jman8888 | ? | 06:17 |
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Don_jr | if I like it on my laptop enough I'll check this computer i"m on now and make sure all the hardware will take and I'll run it here too | 06:17 |
Don_jr | only 2 things I worry about here are my wireless USB networking stuff and my vid card | 06:17 |
distantbody | Don_jr: You should have daul booted it on your faster computer!:-/ | 06:18 |
IcemanV9 | jman8888: before the official release, i used dapper flight back in spring/early summer before my box died 5 months ago. | 06:18 |
imafunnyguy | yummy | 06:18 |
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profoX` | not again ._. | 06:18 |
_relachs | stupid question but, im stuck at the 'setting up mountpoints dialog' must i assign my ext3 partition i plan to put ubuntu on to hda5 AND '/'? | 06:18 |
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torpedo|dog | !ops | 06:18 |
ubotu | Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak! | 06:18 |
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fiendskull9 | wtf | 06:18 |
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Hobbsee | got him :) | 06:18 |
Don_jr | I'm not sure I trust myself to do that properly and I didn't want to screw up my good one till I knew what I was doing. | 06:18 |
jman8888 | ? | 06:18 |
Agrajag- | gday, i've put a dapper cd in a breezy machine, edited the sources.list to only have this line: "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" however an apt-get update doesn't seem to actually do anything - it seems as if it doens't think i have the dapper cd mounted. how can i fix this? | 06:18 |
torpedo|dog | Many thanks, Hobbsee :) | 06:18 |
kerwonz | profoX: you can see that? | 06:18 |
w30 | kontiki, typing users at the commanc line will tell you the names of the users logged in and how many times by repeating their username but it don't give any thing more | 06:18 |
HellDragon | wtf | 06:18 |
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jman8888 | !ubotu upgrade | 06:18 |
ubotu | Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version. | 06:18 |
profoX` | Hobbsee: he's going around everywhere -- he did it 3x on ##linux | 06:19 |
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Don_jr | and knowing now that my wireless isn't supported directly by Ubuntu I woulnd't be able to get online with this one if I dual booted it | 06:19 |
cynical | lol who would use tor to spam the channel?.... | 06:19 |
Kragnerac | !ubotu AIGLX | 06:19 |
cynical | thats retarded | 06:19 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about AIGLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:19 |
profoX` | kerwonz: yea one quick note.. | 06:19 |
HellDragon | cynical: kinda | 06:19 |
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profoX` | kerwonz: never put something like that between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS tags | 06:19 |
Agrajag- | jman8888: if that was for me, it's not helping as i don't have access to synaptic. | 06:19 |
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phargle | who still uses wireless | 06:19 |
cynical | helldragon: I mean honestly, its not like hes going to accomplish anything | 06:19 |
SlaSheR84 | should i use alcohol 120% to burn ubuntu server or something else | 06:19 |
distantbody | Don_jr: Well, it's competely automagical and it wond harm your windows(?) install... | 06:19 |
cynical | phargle: I do | 06:19 |
HellDragon | cynical: thats sick | 06:19 |
Don_jr | Okay Live CD is up and running. | 06:20 |
xepher | phargle: i do | 06:20 |
profoX` | kerwonz: put the block with windows BEFORE: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST | 06:20 |
kontiki | w30: thx, but I want to view a copy of their bash session in real time - any idea how to do that, or what irc channel to ask that on? | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | profoX`: we cant really do much about it, except for block tor | 06:20 |
profoX` | kerwonz: otherwise you'll lose that entry in grub with a new kernel update | 06:20 |
torpedo|dog | SlaSheR84: any CD burner software will work, so long as it can burn .iso | 06:20 |
profoX` | Hobbsee: i know | 06:20 |
Don_jr | but I woulnd't be able to be on here and chat while I was installing and get help either | 06:20 |
Agrajag- | jman8888: also i want to use the cd, not use http. doing it with http works. | 06:20 |
profoX` | Hobbsee: i just don't get what's supposed to be so funny/amusing about it ._. | 06:20 |
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cynical | Hobbsee: its sad that you have to resort to that. I dont really see why anyone would want to waste their time doing it.. | 06:21 |
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profoX` | how can someone have fun with that | 06:21 |
Don_jr | CDrom is still buzzin, I'm not clickin install till it's done | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | cynical: true that. they've only recently been unbanned, too | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | profoX`: exactly | 06:21 |
tjcarter | This thing is becoming an UbunTV =D | 06:21 |
kerwonz | profoX`, yes, but when i try boot i cant do that, maybe can fix that? | 06:21 |
jman8888 | Agrajag, I used the cd before. I just added the cd and did what ubotu said to do. It can be done in nao... | 06:21 |
jman8888 | nano | 06:21 |
profoX` | kerwonz: wait.. | 06:21 |
UncleOp22 | If "matthew_w" of the VNC problems returns, tell him to look in the pastebox and search for his moniker. | 06:21 |
distantbody | Don_jr: just as long as you have at least one good install:) | 06:21 |
w30 | kontiki, looking at the logs should show more (/var/log) | 06:21 |
nich0s | ls | 06:21 |
Don_jr | now there's an error. AOFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet". there's a problem loading that. do I want to delete the applet from my configuration?? | 06:22 |
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Don_jr | it's asking me to delete or not | 06:23 |
BSG75 | haha you need to blacklist bcm43xx and it doesn't load the free driver ... THEN you can use ndis driver ... what a pain | 06:23 |
kerwonz | profoX`, okey | 06:23 |
distantbody | Don_jr: No... | 06:23 |
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Don_jr | ok | 06:23 |
Agrajag- | so why wouldn't apt-get realise i have a dapper cd mounted and to use the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" line in my sources.list? | 06:23 |
Don_jr | I"m hopeing it will install this time. I've been trying all day to download a version of nix to install, this is the first one that's gotten this far up to this point.... | 06:24 |
Don_jr | cd is done buzzin, do I need to do anything before I click 'install'? | 06:24 |
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distantbody | Don_jr: What are the other buttons? | 06:24 |
nich0s | YES! | 06:24 |
Don_jr | only 2 are on the desktop, examples and install | 06:24 |
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distantbody | Don_jr: yes, install:) | 06:25 |
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Don_jr | there are other things in the....being a windows fool I only know to call it a taskbar at the top of the screen, applications, places, system and a globe and what looks liek probably e-mail | 06:25 |
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Don_jr | okay, just install now | 06:25 |
Elda | Yeee finally back online | 06:25 |
xnull- | heya anybody using edgy (development branch) ? | 06:25 |
nich0s | Elda, Welcome back | 06:25 |
Don_jr | pray for me....I"ll need it! lol | 06:25 |
Elda | I hate having to leech off of someone elses internet >.< | 06:25 |
nich0s | Don_jr, Dominus et espirio santi or somthing | 06:26 |
distantbody | Don_jr: There all the programs that you can use off of the live cd, so it isnt actually installed anything yet... | 06:26 |
Elda | The cable people are coming soon to hook up our internet/tv though so it will be nifty xd | 06:26 |
profoX` | kerwonz: maybe rootnoverify works better ? | 06:26 |
Don_jr | should anything come on the screen when install begins? | 06:26 |
Elda | xD | 06:26 |
kerwonz | profoX`: letme try, brb | 06:26 |
distantbody | Don_jr: yes:language options | 06:26 |
IcemanV9 | Elda: you'll love it when it is installed. :) | 06:27 |
Don_jr | sheesh, last time I hit install it did nothing for an hour..if I'd have known that I wouldn't have sat and waited like that....lol | 06:27 |
distantbody | Don_jr: Then time zone (with a pretty map) | 06:27 |
nich0s | Don_jr, There should be a flashing epileptic light with a thunderous voice telling you about the benefits of AOL and MICROSOFT :P | 06:27 |
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profoX` | kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 (oh hes gone- | 06:27 |
Don_jr | aol sux worse than microsoft | 06:27 |
nich0s | then nix is the os for you | 06:27 |
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nich0s | :p | 06:27 |
nich0s | and I agre | 06:27 |
nich0s | e | 06:27 |
distantbody | nich0s::-D | 06:27 |
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nich0s | distantbody, :)) | 06:27 |
Don_jr | I'm sick of the microsoft monopoly, that's why I want to try a nix system. | 06:28 |
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Don_jr | I have seen from being here today that I've got alot to learn before I will drop windows completely, but i"m starting the transition, that's a pluss for me eh? lol | 06:28 |
nich0s | Don_jr, Microsoft owns the game Monopoly?!? The world is ending (btw.. this is a joke, I'm not completely stupid) | 06:28 |
Don_jr | okay, disk is going crazy, nothing on screen yet...... | 06:29 |
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