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basbryanIntangir: same error....12:01
Intangirhrm.. wtf12:01
Intangirtry just .. apt-get install gnome-terminal?12:01
FlamekebabI don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?12:01
basbryanIntangir: hold on12:01
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gnomefreakJack_Sparrow: kubuntu  works fine in dapper and edgy atm12:01
Jack_Sparrowgnomefreak: I have had nothing but problems with Kubuntu and noting but praise of Ubuntu12:01
Intangiroh wait.. well12:01
basbryanIntangir: aptitude gave better output i miised it12:01
Intangiryou could try apt-get update first12:01
verixAZzKikR: what flag tells this file that ath0/eth0/1/2 or whatever is the default gateway? I don't see any indications...12:01
synicverix: route add defaul gw <address> dev ath012:01
gnomefreakIntangir: why downgrading terminal?12:01
Intangirthe repo was down for me earlier though12:01
verixsynic: ah okay12:01
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window12:02
basbryanIntangir: gnome-terminal-data needs to be downgraded to downgrade gnome-terminal12:02
Intangirgnomefreak: hes got issues with one of the newer versions possibly12:02
happy-and-lostWireless anyone? Intell 2200GB. It's got a driver, it's enabled, it's connected... but it's only recieving empty packets. Why?!12:02
verixis <address> an IP or MacAddr?12:02
Jack_Sparrowgnomefreak: And I have never really liked Gnome.. but it works...12:02
synican ip12:02
gnomefreakbasbryan: alot more than just that12:02
MotorCityMadMan1how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?12:02
verixk12:02
basbryanIntangir: i updated 30 min ago12:02
jason__I have a pretty simple question.  What is the equivalent of the Windows "run" program in Ubuntu?  I've been looking it up but have been unsuccessful12:02
jvaireset your router12:02
basbryanjason__: alt-f212:02
verixjason__: Applications > Accessories > Terminal12:02
AZzKikRwhat kind of interface is an ath0 interface?12:02
gnomefreakIntangir: basbryan if im not mistaken you need to downgrade a crap load of packages12:02
verixwireless12:02
Jack_Sparrowjason__: What are you trying to run?12:03
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AZzKikRi've only seen ra0 and eth0 kinds12:03
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verixath0 = atheros based wireless12:03
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AZzKikRah12:03
FlamekebabI don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?12:03
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ubuntuhi12:03
Intangirgnomefreak: that aptitude takes care of downgrading dependancies also, thats why i told him use aptitude12:03
lupinewmaster0 is fun :)12:03
Intangirapt-get just complains12:03
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Intangirbut for me even the very newest versions from quinn work fine12:03
JoseStefanFlamekebab, ask in #unbuntu-xgl12:03
Intangirnow.. i think they got rid of some12:03
gnomefreakIntangir: sometimes but this case it should12:03
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JoseStefanoops #ubuntu-xgl12:04
jvaimy hoary backports r broke .... but all's good tho12:04
FlamekebabI just thought it might be an easy "yes or no" question12:04
IntangirFlamekebab: probably12:04
AZzKikRJoseStefan: i always type unbuntu by accident too :P12:04
IntangirFlamekebab: i bet you can12:04
jhutchins_ltIs there a way to enable a serial mouse with the live CD?12:04
AndyCoollLaptop wireless help needed12:04
seancan anyone help me on why my downloads stop downloading?12:04
JoseStefanFlamekebab, i really dont know, you might even have to go as far as getting 3rd party compiz+xgl repositories12:04
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seanhttp://71.139.0.188:23456/images/DownloadStopping.png is the screenshot12:05
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AndyCoollI have a Toshiba Satellite with Belkin PCMCIA wireless notebook card12:05
seanif anyone wants to help12:05
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JoseStefanAZzKikR, do not disassemble Johnny Five12:05
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ubuntujhutchins_lt:  mouse wont work?12:05
ubuntukeep the cat out :D12:05
AndyCoollWhen I try to login it just hangs12:05
IntangirAndyCooll: log in where?12:05
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HNThello everybody, i try to install the nvidia driver but i'v got a problem at the start of Xorg, he said me that the nvidia kernel module have a different number that the nvidia binary (nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common) howto fix it ?12:05
MotorCityMadMan1how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?12:06
JoseStefanAZzKikR, ...unbuntu is not good :|12:06
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1:  wab is windows address book12:06
AndyCoollOn first login, just putting in my name and password12:06
flyingcircus97what's up with Xorg?12:06
AndyCoollAccepts the password but doesn't get as far as the desktop12:07
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IntangirHNT: sec..12:07
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, specifically ?12:07
ubuntuAndyCooll: can u login in console?12:07
seanokay12:07
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flyingcircus97After an update last night, Xorg is broken, X server failed to start.12:07
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seannevermind guys12:07
seanit just timed out12:07
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: yes true. how can i convet that file ?12:07
Jack_SparrowMotorCityMadMan1: what created the wab ?12:07
AndyCoollubuntu: yes12:07
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, you'll need to do another update, thru the CLI12:07
IntangirHNT: you need to get nvidia-glx, and the linux-restricted-modules package that matched your kernel12:07
MotorCityMadMan1outlook12:08
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade12:08
Jack_SparrowMotorCityMadMan1: OUtlook should export a csv file12:08
flyingcircus97Thanks. So they fixed it already.12:08
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AZzKikRwell, no way im gonna update at the moment :D12:08
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javaJakeHello guys12:08
ali4728Help needed...!  I am trying to copy files from mounted wondows partition to my linux partition "cp"  because file and folder names have space in "W" I get error any suggestions?12:08
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: mozilla thunderbird may be able to import a .wab file12:08
javaJakeali4728, what?12:09
MotorCityMadMan1yes thank you. i was trying to convert the file with out leaveing linux12:09
JoseStefanali4728, try using cp with quotes12:09
jake1yay download is done12:09
javaJakeOr, put a \ before spaces12:09
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AZzKikRali4728: to copy files or folders, you'd have to prepend the space with a \12:09
javaJakeI have my own problem12:09
ali4728JoseStefan: thanx thats clever12:09
AndyCoollubuntu: though if I try "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" for instance that hangs the console too12:09
javaJakeA seemingly random kernel crash12:09
javaJakeWith direct rendering enabled12:10
jhutchins_ltI'm using kubuntu to copy an old disk to a new one using tar, and for some reason it kept spinning up the CD, so I ejected it.12:10
javaJakeNothing in the logs12:10
happy-and-lostMy router is working fine (connected now) my wifi card has a driver and is enabled, it's connected with 95% signal strength... but it's recieving empty packets. Why?12:10
IntangirAndyCooll: are you using NIS?12:10
javaJakeBut the card is an ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY12:10
HNTIntangir : yes but the problem is that nvidia-glx require linux-restricted-modules for a 2.6.15.23 kernel and i'm running with a 2.6.15.21 (default) so ... ?12:10
javaJakeWith OPENGL! YEA!12:10
jhutchins_ltThen I tried to edit xorg.conf (to enable my mouse) and POOF - locked the system.12:10
MotorCityMadMan1fluvvell: thunderbird will not import a wab file12:10
IntangirHNT: upgrade your kernel? hehe12:10
AndyCoollIntangir: NIS?12:10
jhutchins_ltSpeaking of logs, where do they live on kubuntu?  I'm used to /var/log/messages12:10
JoseStefanHNT, you might need to update your kernel12:10
lupinehappy-and-lost: dodgy driver or firmware?12:10
edulixhi!12:10
jvai@happy- sumtymes it's concast or verizon... u may have to reset your router12:10
javaJakeVAR/LOG12:10
edulixhey where can I find a xgl live cd?12:11
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1:  do u have kmail?12:11
javaJakeJoseStefan, are you talking to me?12:11
happy-and-lostIt's a fresh install12:11
HNTk thanks12:11
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cafuegoHNT: The latest (fixed) kernel is 2.6.15-2612:11
happy-and-lostHaven't touched it. Intel 2200BG12:11
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: looking12:11
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: sry, it may have been within windows i did that.  You can import into tb from outlook in the windows version.12:11
JoseStefanjavaJake, nope12:11
javaJakeOK12:11
javaJake:P12:11
JoseStefanjavaJake, now i am12:11
javaJakeHaha12:11
flyingcircus97Thanks for the advice, Jose, Xorg is up.12:11
javaJakeCan ya help?12:11
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JoseStefanflyingcircus97, ok np12:11
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belochello12:12
belocil y a des frenchy12:12
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: any idea of the structure of the .wab file? I don't have one to look at for now. Many things can be converted, its just a matter of by what method.12:12
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that12:12
javaJakeATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY + Direct Rendering enabled = kernel hard crash = HEEEEELP!12:12
JoseStefanjavaJake, dont know :(12:12
IntangirjavaJake: upgrade your driver? or get an nvidia ;)12:12
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Intangiroh its in a laptop isn it..12:12
ali4728AZzKikR  is it like this?  "this is win file"    "this\ is \ win \file"12:12
javaJakeIntangir, latest kernel (2.16.XX-26-306)12:12
javaJakeIntangir, yes12:13
rnd_nulli just installed ubuntu 6.06 on an Averatec 2200 and am having trouble with the wireless card, anyone able to lend a hand?12:13
AZzKikRali4728: yeah12:13
javaJakernd_null12:13
MotorCityMadMan1fluvvell: structure ? how do i know ?12:13
javaJakeYes12:13
Intangirupdate your video drivers too though12:13
ali4728AZzKikR: thnx12:13
javaJakeIntangir, how?12:13
Intangirfor ati? i have no idea12:13
javaJakeIntangir, I have all updates - xorg (ugh) installed12:13
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Intangiri couldnt figure out how to install proper ATI drivers on this crapp card i got, im using vesa12:13
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javaJakeIt's the radeon driver that comes with the kernel12:13
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Intangirthe video driver, on newer cards comes from ATI somehow12:13
Intangirolder ones have an open source driver you can use12:14
AZzKikRali4728: another example:  cp -R /media/windows/Program\ Files ~/myProgramFiles/12:14
javaJakeWell, proprietary ones don't work - they only work on the newer ones12:14
jake1is there a particular reason why when i am installing Ubuntu from boot CD does only a portion of my screen show up12:14
JoseStefanjavaJake, you might be loading unsupported xorg modules for your gfx card12:14
ubuntuanu luck?12:14
javaJakeThis card is at least 3 years old12:14
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jake1it makes the installer unusable12:14
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: any luck dude?12:14
ubuntudo u have kmail?12:14
javaJakeJoseStefan, so radeon is unsupported!?12:14
sholdenHas anyone tried setting the hot key for Gnome Deskbar?  I am trying to set the hot key to <ALT>` but it is not working.  I've been toying with it for a while, but can't find any good documentation.  Any suggestions?12:14
javaJakeGLX!?12:14
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: i can install kmail. will that work ?12:14
javaJakeGLcore!?12:14
JoseStefanjavaJake, i mean specific xorg modules12:14
javaJakeNope12:14
javaJakeNot really12:14
javaJakeThey're all pretty generic12:15
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: it has tool called kamilcvt download both, it will convert wab12:15
javaJakeJust took the right configuration to get it to work12:15
ubuntu:)12:15
AZzKikRjavaJake: radeon is supported, i got a radeon X800 myself12:15
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DooMRunneRdoes anyone knows a powerfull alternative to rythmbox, not so winamp like things as xmms or beep?12:15
javaJakeAZzKikR, my point exactly12:15
ubuntuDooMRunneR:  amarok12:15
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: how about 'Listen'?12:15
IntangirDooMRunneR: i heard one called like amoroka or something.. i dont remember..12:15
javaJakeamorak12:16
javaJakeOr something...12:16
javaJakeLOL12:16
AZzKikRamaroK12:16
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Intangirya that sounds about right12:16
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that12:16
javaJake:P12:16
jake1if my laptop has a DVD drive does that mean it can boot from DVD12:16
DooMRunneRi know amarok, but works not good under gnome12:16
Intangirits supposed to be powerful, and not winamp like12:16
DravasIts really annoyunh12:16
jake1or only CD12:16
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: the motorcitymadman runs over to his box of tools. Plz stand bye12:16
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: kmailcvt it is in synaptic type , apt-get install kmailcvt12:16
javaJakejake1, depends on your BIOS12:16
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: then take a look at Listen12:16
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: ok12:16
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mistraalanyone know how to change the home directory for suexec?12:16
JoseStefanjake1, usally both cd or dvd, but depends on bios12:16
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IntangirDravas: does that by default for me..12:16
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DravasWell Its not for me12:17
DravasI have to click on teh edge of the window12:17
Jack_Sparrowjake, not 100%...12:17
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, take one, thank you12:17
javaJakeTo check that out, go INTO your BIOS (by pushing the right F1-12 key) and check the boot list12:17
IntangirDravas: your on gnome?12:17
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DravasIntangir yes12:17
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, is listen available in the repos?12:17
jake1javaJake: would you think a computer purchased like two days ago would do that, considering lots of software is on DVD nowadays12:17
DravasI am on gnome12:17
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Intangirthats freaky. you musta accidently toggled something for it to do that12:18
Dravas:\12:18
javaJakejake1, I'd say, yes, most likely12:18
Intangirthere should be a metacity, or gnome option somewhere to change it back12:18
javaJakejake1, newer computers do it12:18
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: not by default12:18
Dravasbbl12:18
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javaJakejake1, as long as it IS new, and isn't refurbished, etc.12:18
Jack_Sparrowjake1: A new computer should boot to DVD but it MUST be set to look at the DVD in the boot sequence... Usually get to bios/cmos with the delete key during the memory check12:18
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: but i believe the website provides a repository location, i'll look it up12:18
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, cant find anything about it in google12:19
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LEMONed_ok, I seem to of go the livecd to work but I'm still having trouble, ubuntu seems to start up fine and brings me to a red desktop, I hear a login tingle tangle tune and then gives me a red background with a mouse that I can move around.... nothing else I'm a linux noob and was wondering what I've done wrong?12:19
javaJakeShows how much I know12:19
javaJake:P12:19
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jake1yea i do know how to make it boot from CD12:19
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, cool thank you12:19
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javaJakeWell, I'm going to try some other IRC channels12:19
Solkarisanyone know how to fix a problem with internet connection only partially working?12:19
javaJakeIf anyone here is an expert with X or ATI, let me know12:19
javaJakeI'll be on under the name "javaJake" for the next 15 minutes12:19
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javaJakeLEAVE #ubuntu12:20
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: take a look at http://listengnome.free.fr/ it provides information, screenshots and a repository location for Dapper 6.0612:20
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, got it http://listengnome.free.fr/, thanx12:20
javaJakeRats12:20
DooMRunneR:D12:20
AZzKikRno problem :D12:20
JoseStefanjavaJake, try a reconfigure of xserver-xorg, and disable any modules you dont use12:20
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jordanaui want to make a custon ubuntu distro taylored towards a specific business, where would i get started12:20
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cjonesjordanau what kind of biz ?12:20
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jake1now on another note........ i tried earlier to install Ubuntu on my AMD 64 Turion ML-32 Acer Aspire 5003WLMi notebook and i got the load screen where it told me to hit 'ENTER' for default installation (or something like that) i did, and then after that the installer only showed up on a small section of my monitor making it impossible to see what i was selecting and what not12:20
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ubuntulater guys12:21
jake1it also does this on the Live CD12:21
ubuntutc12:21
jake1any ideas of what that could be12:21
jordanauconstruction/architecture12:21
jake1i was considering trying to install it from the alternate installer on the website12:21
jordanaucjones, ^^12:21
JoseStefanjake1, you could try that12:21
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cjonesjordanau that sounds like fun are you thinking adding some cad stuff?12:21
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jordanaucjones, yeah cad, scheduling, spreadsheet, groupware, accounting etc12:22
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jordanaucjones, interested?12:22
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cjonestheres already spreadsheet in ubuntu12:22
John[1] What is the command to start the xserver in dapper?12:22
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AZzKikRstartx?12:23
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MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package kamilcvt12:23
IntangirJohn[1] : what are you trying to do with it?12:23
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Intangirtheres different ways to start it12:23
MotorCityMadMan1kmail installed12:23
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jordanaucjones, yes i know but i would eliminate games, extras, etc12:23
John[1] start up the gnome desktop.12:23
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AZzKikRisn't gdm used to start the gnome desktop?12:23
jordanaugdm start or gdm restart12:24
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, thank you again, thats the thing ive searched for :D12:24
Intangirgdm starts it up with the login manager12:24
cjonesjordanau have you thought about just starting with debian12:24
BlueEaglejake1: There is an option for VGA safe mode12:24
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: no problem :D i am beginning to get interested in Listen myself atm :P12:24
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BlueEaglejake1: hit F4 instead of Enter on the boot screen.12:24
jordanauyes, but i like the hardware detection of ubuntu12:24
BlueEaglejake1: or something like that. It's a menu at the bottom of the screen.12:25
Intangirwhats listen?12:25
AZzKikRIntangir: a music player using GTK12:25
jordanaucjones, ^12:25
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John[1] is the command start gdm?12:25
Intangiris it really any better than others? like xmms? i still use xmms hehe12:25
AZzKikRIntangir: comparable with amaroK12:25
nickerssI just downloaded the desktop iso of ubuntu how do i get it to run without installing it?12:25
jordanauJohn[1] , no gdm start12:25
AZzKikRJohn[1] : gdm start12:25
KragneracHello, I am going to install Ubuntu 6.06 (got the Live CD running right now). I am trying to choose between the ext3, reiser4, and XFS filesystems. My partition size is 33973. I want to know which one would be the most efficient for my partition?12:25
Intangirsudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:25
amee2kafter login something keeps filling up my RAM and swap space, however the system monitor doesn't show anything anormal. how can i find out which process is going wild?12:25
cjonesjordanau well put12:25
Kragnerac*33973 MB12:25
John[1] I get command not found12:25
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IntangirKragnerac: ext3 is most common12:26
AZzKikRJohn[1] : like Intangir said: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:26
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JoseStefanJohn[1] : or restart instead12:26
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IntangirJohn[1] : you might want to use stop first just to make sure its dead12:26
synicamee2k: how do you know?12:26
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nickersscan you really run ubuntu from the .iso without installing?12:27
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amee2kbecause of the system monitor in my panel12:27
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synicamee2k: what does it say?12:28
Intangirnickerss: if you get the live CD, yes12:28
nickerssi got the desktop cd for mac12:28
JoseStefannickerss, after burning it to a CD :P12:28
amee2kuser memory: 1.7G of 2G, used swap 850M of 3.8G12:28
nickerssohh ok12:28
nickerssthanks12:28
amee2kand counting...12:28
nickerssjust boot to it?12:28
amee2kand that is definitely NOT normal, considering a normal RAM usage of <500M12:29
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amee2kany ideas?12:29
JoseStefannickerss, yes12:30
xxporis software update screwing up compiz?12:30
amee2ki'm trying to post a screenshot but that takes time atm12:30
synicamee2k: you running 64bit?12:30
bbrazilamee2k: agressive swappiness (tuneable), caching files (normal)12:30
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amee2kyep, 64 bit, AMD6412:30
synicamee2k: sounds normal to me.12:30
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amee2kNORMAL?!12:31
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amee2kthat it spontaneously uses 3 gigs when idle?12:31
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synicamee2k: view the processes and sort by resident memory12:32
amee2kwell, now 4 gigs12:32
JoseStefanamee2k, i think ubuntu takes up spare memory for caching12:32
amee2kalready tried, even with "all processes", it doesn't show something wrong12:32
JoseStefanis there a compact way to show the info on "free"12:33
amee2kJoseStefan: that's NOT caching. cache memory is shown separately12:33
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JoseStefani'm not running much and i am at: 774808     752812      21996  (total,used,free)12:33
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synicamee2k: what does the top item in that list show for "resident memory" ?12:34
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amee2k39M12:34
amee2kthat's mozilla atm. trying to post the screenshot12:34
MotorCityMadMan1just what does this mean ?  ~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 13665, errno = 012:34
amee2knext one is nautilus with 28M12:34
MotorCityMadMan1i think it wood be good if i shorten my user name12:35
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IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: thats bad12:35
MotorCityMadMan1what is ?12:35
IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: what are you doing when you get that error?12:36
amee2khttp://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmemgk7.png12:36
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itrebalminor issue with my ubuntu installation... i just installed it, and its going through about to configure everything and the like and its on the very first part saying "preparing for installation" after it reboots12:36
JoseStefanamee2k, try sorting top by mem%12:36
MotorCityMadMan1Intangir: working with a shell12:36
itrebalit doesn't respond after a while so i go to tty2 and check on it with 'top' and its taking up 99% CPU and not doing anything12:36
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wikijeffDoes anyone know why there isn't an entry for my ALPS touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices ???? My touchpad isn't responding to anything.12:37
amee2khow do i sort in top?12:37
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MotorCityMadMan1also this / X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:37
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JoseStefanamee2k, press x, then b, then >12:38
FantasticFoois it safe to update to the newer version of X now? or is that update still the shitty one12:38
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rredd4yes12:38
jvaiwow, does adding more applets to the panel use more memory?12:38
jvaiwow..12:38
JoseStefanamee2k, by default that should end up sorting by mem, you could press h for help12:38
argumentFantasticFoo, that update was fine for me12:38
rredd4FantasticFoo  do sudo apt-get update    first12:38
amee2keach keypress on that box takes almost a minute now12:38
Intangiramee2k: i think something has gone terribly wrong12:39
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argumentFantasticFoo, yeh, you'll wanna have the rest of your system up to date anyhow12:39
JoseStefanamee2k, you might want to sort by cpu too, something is eating up resources12:39
wikijeffAnyone??? Can anyone even see this??12:39
rredd4yes12:39
argumentwikijeff, yes12:39
IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: i always get that when running qt apps, it doesnt seem to mean anything12:39
itrebalanyone know what might be causing this strange behavior? i've restarted it a few times but its not rixing it12:39
amee2kthe lag is caused by excessive bus I/O12:39
argumentitrebal, hey you use ubuntu too eh?12:39
MotorCityMadMan1kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.12:39
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itrebalargument: trying :/12:39
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itrebal:)12:40
argumentheheh trying? lol12:40
itrebalyea - it was going great, supported my usb and sata drives with the stock kernel12:40
MotorCityMadMan1going to shorten name12:40
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x1977xhi folks,, im new,,. can anyone help me with this: i have a sata HD which is where ubuntu is installed (alone--no windows); i also have ntfs HD (not sata,, whats that, IDE?) with all my stuff on it (just storage, no OS).  when i boot my computer, it fails, unless i press f12 and tell it to boot from the correct HD.. how do i alter the BIOS to have it boot that HD automatically?12:40
itrebaland then BAM - i restart after the initial installation and it doesn't work12:40
itrebalx1977x: i'd recommend trying #hardware12:41
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gb453What is the best way to get WPA working in 6.06?12:41
lupinex1977x: bios should have an option to let you select the default boot device12:41
Intangirx1977x: just browse around your bios, thers bound to be an option for it12:41
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teimuis it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?12:41
itrebalargument: its rather irritating :/12:41
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x1977xcool, ty :)12:41
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god_hey guys, can anyone help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242132 ?12:41
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amee2kit is snhelper - 1.5g VIRT, 73 %MEM12:42
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lhdshello there. i want to ask about that program that lets you turn on and off the boot modules... what was its name? like hp printing, smb, logging etc12:43
amee2kwhat is snhelper and how can i get rid of it?12:43
JoseStefanamee2k, you can kill it, but i would make sure what it is first12:43
mitchlhds: bum?12:43
amee2knever heard of it12:43
itrebalhave you thought about snhelper's feelings?12:43
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beowuffgod_ do "ps-ef | grep mysqld". Does it list mysqld?12:43
JoseStefanitrebal, he will respawn on someone elses computer :D12:43
tomasz27what do I need to run Dreamweaver in Ubuntu?12:43
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itrebaltomasz27: practice... LOTS of practice12:44
virogenesistomasz27, try aptana12:44
god_god      15012 10750  0 23:44 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysqld12:44
bean-ohtomasz27, probably wine and free time12:44
synictomasz27: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=dreamweavermx12:44
teimuis it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?12:44
jvailol.. Screem's a bettr fit.. & it's in repos12:44
lhdsyes its bum12:44
lhdsthanx for the info12:44
amee2kitrebal: yes12:44
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tomasz27thank you all12:44
virogenesistomasz27,  do you use code view or what?12:44
amee2kno man page, no which output12:45
itrebalalright this is seriously bugging me12:45
beowuffgod_ looks like mysql is not running. Check mysql's log. Probably under /var/log/mysql. I don't know as I don't run mysql. Also, try asking on mysql forum/irc.12:45
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tomasz27design and code views12:45
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amee2khm... seems part of vmware. i'll go and ask there12:46
virogenesisahh alright tomasz27  take a look at http://www.aptana.com12:46
itrebalargument: you wouldn't have any idea on how to get this to work, would you?12:46
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god_beowuff the mysql logs are no help12:46
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tomasz27ok12:46
tomasz27 thanks12:46
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skipp_OSXhello, need help setting up Ubuntu as an nis client12:47
teimudashriKe, dual boot. wine is okay for older games, with some exceptions, but with win, programs run the way they are supposed to. no patching problems, official drivers for vid and aud12:47
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teimuwell, now i will rephrase. how should i go about making breezy into dapper?12:48
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beowuffgod_ for some reason mysqld is not running. If it was, it should have shown up with the ps-ef | grep mysqld. If it trys to start, it should write to the log file why. You can try /etc/init.d/mysqld start. You will probably have to run it as root.12:48
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dashriKeI wonder if they well release a linux version of it?12:48
skipp_OSXI have a FreeBSD box setup as an nis server and I have Ubuntu 6.06 setup as a client but for some reason I can't seem to login with any nis users12:48
synicdashriKe: I wouldn't doubt it.12:48
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synicdashriKe: they've been pretty good about supporting linux12:48
teimudashriKe, well, luckily, thats an id game. they usually port thier stuff for us12:48
god_i've tried that, the result is show in that link i posted12:48
teimuisnt their some ubuntu_teacher or lessons or school channel?12:49
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estalocai'm trying to get 3d acceleration working for my ati card on dapper on AMD 64. When i type in fglrxinfo I get "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!".  I followed the guides, no success. Anyone know what I can do?12:50
paroneayeawhy on earth did the ubuntu developers decide to have the whole gnome desktop depend on gamin?????12:50
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dashriKeI hope they do12:50
dashriKethat is a game I plan on actually buying12:50
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beowuffgod_ I hate to say it, but this looks like a problem with mysql, and would probably be better delt with by mysql users. Have you tried asking in #mysql?12:51
Flamekebabarse barbeque, so THAT'S why cipherfunk isn't working any more..12:51
x1977xitrebal: i checked #hardware and got some really good help.  thanks for the tip!12:51
fauxparoneayea, so that thet can keep track of changes in the filesystem?12:51
Sapakihi any help in configuring my wireless adaptor for ubuntu 5.1012:51
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paroneayeafaux: I know, but it's a terrible decision.  Not everyone wants it.12:52
jordanauif i want to install another linux distro all i have to do is resize my present partition right?12:52
god_thanks beowuff, i'll ask there12:52
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fauxparoneayea, why? I find it pretty much essential12:52
tchmnkyzhey all, i followed the restricted formats page and still dont have a working system to play xvid files what else can i do?12:52
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paroneayeathere's no reason it should be a dependency... it should be an option.12:52
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estalocahave anyone successfully installed xgl/compiz?12:52
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gnomefreakestaloca: try #ubuntu-xgl12:53
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paroneayeafaux: it both slows things down, and in the project I am working on I have a script which unmounts the device on which the user's home directory resides after they log out... now such a thing can't be done for several minutes after the user logs out due to gamin staring at the home directory for a while12:54
estalocagnomefreak: thanks12:54
gnomefreakestaloca: yw12:54
paroneayeait also generally slows down the system, so I can't see any reason why it should be essential... it shoudl be optional.12:54
__root___whats a good text based programe thaTS like xmms that you can run from the command prompt12:54
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fauxparoneayea, I thought most locking issues were resolved12:55
tchmnkyzxmms can be ran from the cmd12:55
synic__root___: mp3blaster12:55
paroneayeafaux: hm.  Maybe I should update the system.  How long ago were these to have been solved?12:55
__root___synic i get "unabel to open display"12:55
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bubu1uk__root__: i recommend mp3blaster too. is very nice and good12:55
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__root___bubu1uk can i apt-get install it ?\12:56
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John[1] Looks like I'm stuck again at 15% install.12:56
John[1] On the desktop install that is.12:56
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bubu1uk__root__: dunno, search for it. i had it on gentoo box12:56
paroneayeadoesn't look like there's any update in the next upgrade12:56
fauxparoneayea, at the time when fam was replaced by gamin, which was pretty long ago12:57
__root___ok12:57
__root___thanks12:57
tchmnkyzanyone with the restricted file formats12:57
__root___anybody in hera know much about luynks12:57
__root___links12:57
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paroneayeaat any rate, I still think this should be optional12:57
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TonrenGah... this is the second time my install has hung, on two different parts12:58
TonrenOnce while copying files, and now while "setting upt eh clock"12:58
TonrenI guess I'll just wait longer12:58
fauxparoneayea, so file a bug about it :)12:58
paroneayeafaux: fair enough12:58
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__root___every time i start links to surf the web i it hangs up at a blinking curser ?12:59
John[1] well i'm at 33%12:59
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John[1] Wow, made it all the way to 45% now.  This is the 3rd try to install.01:00
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riddleboxhello, if I wanted to upgrade to edgy eft, would I just replace dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy?01:02
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bean-ohanyone familiar with setting up serial devices?01:02
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TonrenHey guys, what does it mean if my live CD GUI installer hangs?01:02
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riddleboxbean-oh, well I have been working on a serial remote, I may be able to help01:02
TonrenJohn[1] : is yours hanging too?01:02
The_Kid123hey yall, just got ubuntu installed on my old computer01:03
The_Kid123just don't have it on the 'net01:03
John[1] My installer has hung about 3 times, its working now.01:03
bean-ohriddlebox, i have a problem, my serial port (ttyS0) wasn't being detected properly. it was using an "undefined" UART. I poked around a bit, and found the place to hard-code it to 16550A (which it is), and it still won't work with minicom.01:03
The_Kid123hey yall, got a problem w/ drivers01:04
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cjoneshow do you take a screen shot when your useing someing like lynx or bitchx ?01:04
riddleboxbean-oh, you may want to use an app called setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart .....01:04
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bean-ohcjones, i believe bitchx does logging, and i think you can save pages with lynx01:05
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bean-ohriddlebox, yes, tried that too. on boot it doesn't save it, so i set it up in another place. either way, setserial doesn't really help01:05
monteiroanyone knows a away to disable the touchpad ?01:06
cjonesbean-oh01:06
cjonesbean-oh thanks01:06
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riddleboxbean-oh, sorry then, thats what I had to do to get my lirc drivers to see my irblaster01:06
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bean-ohriddlebox, most i've gotten it to do is flood login prompts from the serial console until the device on the other end gets annoyed at the flood and kills the the connection01:07
lhdshow to make a deb file out of a source file?01:07
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wikijeffAnyone know why there isn't an entry for my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices?? My touchpad isn't working now.01:07
riddleboxbean-oh, sounds like fun :p01:07
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bean-ohriddlebox, yeah, not much! haha it works 100% fine on my workstation. just doesn't like the serial port on my laptop.01:08
mischkoHow do I configure my wireless network card on Ubuntu Server?01:08
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mischkoI'm using WPA-PSK and TKIP.01:08
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tehsuI am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes at 57%01:09
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itrebalalright i just reinstalled it all and its still failing01:09
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itrebalafter i install everything, reboot, and it comes up to finish the installation it stops responding01:09
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tehsuAnyone know why the install freezes?01:10
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tehsuboots up fine into live cd01:10
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lhdsafter tar xzvf the file i need to install it . i downloaded checkinstall and in ,/configure but it returns no such file or dir whats wrong?01:10
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npodgesis there a "configure" file, ihds?01:11
seananyone know the cd burner program to burn an iso image?01:11
lhdsthere is a single file01:11
rambo3sean k3b01:11
npodgessean, gnomebaker too01:11
carthiksean, in nautilus, right click on the iso and choose burn01:11
npodgesor nautilus01:11
tuxtuxnotte a tutti01:12
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wweaselI would use natilus if I just wanted to burn an iso, as carthik said.01:12
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pushpopAny Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?01:13
rambo3pushpop, yes01:13
seank01:13
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seanthanks01:13
pushpopcool, do you use a tuner card or firewire?01:13
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SitouhWould anyone be willing to help a relative Linux novice set up wpa-supplicant?01:13
AnubuntuHello, I need some help, I booted up my system and grub gave me error 17, what does this mean and how does one fix it?01:14
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rambo3! wifi > Sitouh01:14
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wweaselSitouh: wpa_supplicant should be already setup in Dapper.01:15
rambo3Anubuntu, your partition where boot/grub/ is too far for bios to read01:15
misieqis there a low-level disk checking software? that won't only check partitions but also mbr/whole disk because there seems to be problem with my hdd that fsck can't handle with01:15
mischko! wifi > mischko01:15
SitouhDapper?01:15
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wweaselSitouh: Sorry. In the latest version of Ubuntu.01:15
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wweaselSitouh: It is preinstalled.01:15
Anubunturambo3: well can you give me a solution, since my windows disk is at the beginning of the drive?01:15
tnzrSitouh: what card01:15
Sitouhtnzr: Airlink 101 PCMCIA01:16
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tnzrdoes the card show up in iwconfig?01:16
rambo3Anubuntu, boot from floppy or move ubuntu partition or what ever partition you can put grub on closer to start of disk01:16
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wweaselSitouh: Does it work fine without WPA?01:16
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Anubunturambo3: is there any way to do this without damaging the windows partition?01:17
Sitouhtnzr: Yes, it does01:17
Anubunturambo3: since its at the beginning of the drive?01:17
pushpoprambo3: do you use firewire for mythtv or a tuner card?01:17
Sitouhwweasel: I don't know - I don't have a non-WPA network handy to connect to.01:18
rambo3pushpop, tuner card01:18
lhdsis there  a utility for applying Blackbox themes to applications ?01:18
wweaselSitouh: Are you able to temporarily turn down the security on your router?01:18
pushpoprambo3: you know anything about configuring it with usb?01:18
pushpoprambo3: I mean firewire01:18
rambo3no01:18
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rambo3ask in #mythtv-users or search ubuntu forums01:19
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misieq! vdr > misieq01:19
justin_Where can I find the "add/remove" list in Ubuntu - for programs not in Synaptic?01:20
John[1] I just got a eroor that said grub failed to load or install and then a error that said installer failed.01:20
rambo3Anubuntu, i dont realy know much about resizing . but its doable01:20
wweaseljustin_: Add/remove won't let you isntall programs that aren't in synaptic01:21
John[1] What next to fix or is it hosed?01:21
npodgescan someone give me a link on how to theme the screen before gdm launches?01:21
npodgesor explain it01:21
Sitouhwweasel: Hold on - just got the router password01:21
itrebalwoo! i did a non "expert" install and it works... ijust have to go through and configure things01:21
wweaselSitouh: np. I am just wondering if your problem is with WPA, or the network card itself.01:21
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justin_wweasel: Well what I am wondering is - do I have to mentally keep track of all the DEBS I install? - Like the complete file name etc, when I want to un-install them?01:22
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wweaseljustin_: Nope. You can remove some things by unticking them in Add/Remove. Synaptic is the most powerful tool though01:22
bbraziljustin_: if you run aptitude, it'll give you a list of manually installed and obselete debs01:22
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wweaseljustin_: You can search through your installed debs and right click and remove any of them you want.01:23
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Sitouhwweasel: It works fine when I boot in Windows01:23
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gb453How can i configure wpa_supplicant to work with a prism 2.5 wavelan (orinoco driver)?01:24
justin_wweasel: Yes I know how Synaptic works, I am talking about Debs I manually installed that were not in synaptic, bbrazil - Thnks, i'll give it a shot01:24
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pushpopis "make" a valid command in ubuntu?01:24
wweaseljustin_: Synaptic gives them a category all to themselves. Hold on, I'll pull it up01:24
bbraziljustin_: also, you only need to keep track of the package name, maybe also the version01:24
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bbrazilpushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential01:24
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wweaseljustin_: Open up Synaptic, on the sidebar on the left see Installed (local or obsolete).01:25
wweaseljustin_: this will have all of your locally installed debs01:25
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tehsuI'm using ubuntu live, and if I try to install, it freezes at 57%01:25
tehsuDoes anyone know why it would freeze?01:26
justin_wweasel: I do not seem to have this menu in Synaptic01:26
itrebaltehsu: what kind of install?01:26
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Tonrenpushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential01:26
tehsu6.06.101:26
beowufftehsu, have you tried another disk? Maybe it's a bad burn...01:26
wweaselSitouh: Yep. Wireless can be a supreme pain in Linux. But there are two possible problems here if you can't connect to your WPA network. It's possible WPA isn't configured, but I think it may be more likely that the network card isn't properly configured. That's why we should try connecting to something WEP or unencrypted.01:26
tehsuinstalling through ubuntu01:26
npodgessudo aptitude install make01:26
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wweaseljustin_: Go to status (below the sidebar).01:27
pratdoes anyone know if there is a way to extract/find the .config kernel config info for stock ubuntu kernels?01:27
tehsubeowuff: i have not, ill try that01:27
tehsucould it be anything else01:27
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pushpopTonren: what does that do.01:27
rambo3prat you mean like one in /boot/01:27
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bbrazilpushpop: should be in /boot01:27
beowufftehsu, I can't remember from when I installed, but you may be able to hit CTL F4 to see a console with error messages.01:27
tehsuok01:28
npodgesdoes anyone here use kiba-dock?01:28
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justin_wweasel: Not there, however I have it in console aptitude :)01:28
wweaseljustin_: alright01:28
tehsuwhat happens is, it hits 57% the cd and the computer busy light is running and 2 or 3 minutes later it shuts off01:28
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justin_And since I spend most of my time in console, it works out :P thnks01:28
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neuroehello01:28
beowufftehsu, did you burn the cd yourself?01:29
bbraziltehsu: bad hdd? Can you do a crtl-alt-f1 ?01:29
pratrambo3, sweet!  thanks  thats exactly what i was looking for01:29
neuroei think i broke something01:29
tehsuyes i burn't it myself01:29
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neuroecan someone help me?01:30
beowufftehsu, I have had to reburn cd's at slower speeds to get older hardware to read them. If you do reburn, try setting the burn speed at 8.01:31
carthik!ask01:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:31
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woodgrainneuroe, what's up?01:31
neuroei tried to move a folder and now my start up themes stoped working, everything looks like it did before but the theme chooser is coming up blank01:31
beowufftehsu, however, since it booted, it's reading the cd fine. Could be that it messed up the burn on one package. Does it always stop in the same spot?01:31
npodgesneuroe what theme?01:32
npodgesfolder**01:32
woodgrainneuroe, which folder?01:32
neuroethe startup themes01:32
neuroeusr/share/gdm/themes01:32
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wweaselbeowuff, tehsu: Have you tried checking the integrity of the CD?01:32
woodgrainneuroe, can't you just put it back?01:32
neuroenothing moved01:32
rambo3did you move /usr/share/themes01:33
neuroei used the command sudo mv -t EarthLights /usr/share/gdm/themes01:33
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npodgesyou should install the theme using the gui01:33
npodgesin system>admin>login window01:33
neuroeyea i noticed that but it's too late01:33
MotorCityMadMan1test01:34
neuroethe folders are all still there i don't understand what happened01:34
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neuroeboth the folder i tried the move and the folders that were in the directory i tried to move them too01:35
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npodgesare you sure thats what broke it then, neuroe?01:35
mackhey01:35
neuroethe theme chooser has no themes to choose01:36
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neuroei'm afraid if i reboot that there will be no theme at the login screen and i won't be able to log in01:36
mackdoes the "network tools" window in ubuntu support using wpa encryption? it asks for a wep code even though my wireless is set up for wpa01:37
sishguptai dont think so mack01:37
sishguptause network manager01:37
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macki see "networking" and "network tools". i'm in "networking" right now01:38
macki dont want to leave my wireless in my house on wep. im setting up a wireless webserver01:38
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d0nk3ysudo apt-get build-dep mythtv : It says it could not be satisfied, is there something wrong with that command?01:39
neuroenpodges, do you know what that command did?01:39
exobuzzhas anyone else come across this bug upgrading dapper to edgy (I wanted to see how edgy was coming along). http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:I8SLIZX_UmEJ:https://launchpad.net/bugs/5712101:39
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djmassivehi, can someone please help me with amaroK?01:39
bruenig!anyone01:40
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:40
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exobuzzok i used anyone. but i included the question. :-)01:40
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bruenigI mean djmassive01:40
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exobuzzaah01:41
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bruenighe used someone01:41
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bruenigbut the idea is the same01:41
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neuroe!ask me01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
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neuroe!stuff01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
djmassiveamaroK help, anyone?01:41
bruenigdjmassive, ask your question01:42
djmassiveok...01:42
neuroequickly01:42
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neuroe!amaroK01:42
djmassiveHow come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...01:42
gunnar!xgl01:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:43
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neuroehelp plz fix my boo boo01:43
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taychouri-awassup everyone01:43
exobuzzgrr. launchpad is down.. .01:43
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eugmanWhat would be the minimum requirments for a desktopless desktop?01:44
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exobuzzif i reboot i will never get back to X.. what with being half way installed with edgy :/01:44
neuroeeugman a pentium01:44
taychouri-aanyone here know how to take my songs from my ipod and put them onto my ubunut01:44
eugmanCool01:44
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djmassiveHow come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...01:44
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Miekeugman: mine runs on a 333MHz AMD K601:44
exobuzzdjmassive: maybe you dont have the required plugin and it cant play the song01:44
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djmassivei just installed a bunch of plugins.... what ones do i need?01:45
exobuzzdjmassive: check which engine you are using and if it has mp3 support (or whatever the song is your playing)01:45
taychouri-aMP301:45
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taychouri-alol01:45
eugmanAlso, I'm curious. Is there any list of equivalent programs like irssi and mutt if I wanted to do that?01:45
exobuzzyou need whatever plugin handles the format you are playing01:45
brunooi01:45
neuroehrm mp3 maybe?01:45
djmassivei just need an mp3 plugin01:45
taychouri-aanyone here know how to sync my ipod to my linux01:45
neuroeyes mp301:45
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itrebalwould there be any serious issues concering installing linux-image-k7-smp with a K8 board?01:46
trojixeugman, search a repository or Google for "CLI *prgram*" or whatever.01:46
cafuegoitrebal: no01:46
hthhi, this is my first try installing ubuntu with soft raid on an array0, i tried to follow the wiki page but didnt work... received kernel error during installation... id like to know how may i do it or have a link to a step by step detailled step to set it up succesfully01:46
eugmantaychouri-a, gtkpod works for me. A search in the forums should have more help.01:46
neuroetaychorui-a if you get the plugin you can play the songs from the ipod threw your cpu01:47
neuroejust plug in the ipod01:47
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itrebalcafuego: alrighty01:47
exobuzzhth. there is a good step by step on the gentoo wiki which i used to help me setup raid01:47
eugmanOh, I thought he meant the other way.01:47
exobuzzok its gentoo, but the information is mostly valid for ubuntu01:47
neuroei always come in here looking for help but end up helping the noober noobs01:47
djmassivei'm using dapper drake, if that helps... what do i need to get so i can get amaroK to play my mp3s?01:47
jake1ok...... i have been trying all day to get Ubuntu installed, but some reason it isn't working right01:47
jake1http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg01:47
bruenig!mp301:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:47
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taychouri-aso theres no way to put them on the computer?01:48
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cafuegotaychouri-a: 'gtkpod' will do it happily.01:48
hthexobuzz ill take it u have the link.. im not a well experienced linux users i have a copy of ubuntu alternate install right now01:48
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neuroeyaychouri-a, yes there is01:48
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taychouri-aoh ok01:48
taychouri-aso01:48
jake1the image of the installation process isn't completely visable01:48
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neuroeif you plug it in you should be able to just copy them01:48
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jake1can someone look at the picture and tell me what they think01:48
taychouri-akk well01:48
bruenigjake1, yeah it looks like the screen resolution is so off that you can't view all of the text01:48
exobuzzhth: i dont have a link handy but google probably knows where it is. first you have to find the gentoo wiki and then search for "raid howto" :)01:48
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taychouri-acuz i am goin back to linux01:48
taychouri-aand i dun wanna lose my 2000 songs01:49
taychouri-alol01:49
jake1bruenig: what can i do about that???01:49
bruenigdon't know01:49
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cafuegotaychouri-a: open gtkpod, right click the song (or a selection of songs) and click 'Export'01:49
taychouri-akk01:49
taychouri-athanks cafuego01:49
taychouri-a:)01:49
jake1there has got to be a way to get this installed01:49
neuroetaychouri-a, do you know how to use synaptic?01:49
bruenignot even sure that is the problem but looking at it makes me think that might be the problem01:49
SitouhTestwweasel: Got security turned off, it doesn't seem to be letting me connect01:49
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waspiushi..i just found out what karamba does and how nice it is...if i use a simple desktop such as fluxbox will i be able to use karamba without using allot of resources as i would if i used it in kde?01:49
mack#1 sign youre getting used to linux: you try to highlight and middle-click to copy/paste...01:49
taychouri-aremind me what that is neuroe, i havent used linux in a hwile01:49
exobuzzoh.. launchpad isnt down. my machine is being borked.. that will teach me to try and test edgy out...01:50
jake1does anyone else know???01:50
neuroesynaptic package manager01:50
mackanyway... http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/ should i trust that on how to make my computer accept wpa?01:50
taychouri-ayeahhh01:50
taychouri-athat think01:50
taychouri-athing01:50
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taychouri-awith01:50
jale2icetaychouri-a, create a vfat partition for the songs and then mount it when you get linux up and running01:50
taychouri-aall the installation01:50
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tehsui forgot who was helping me, i made a new cd.. i burnt it at 4x instead of 44x and testing the install now01:50
taychouri-ajale2ice, im not that god with computers, lol. i wish i would know how to do that01:50
taychouri-agood*01:50
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bruenigtaychouri-a, copy them all to disk01:51
taychouri-ai cant!01:51
taychouri-aits01:51
bruenigget 15 dvds or something01:51
exobuzzhmm or maybe not. can someone else tell me if launchpad.net is working ?01:51
taychouri-ai dun have a dvd drive :)01:51
exobuzznot sure if I have some weird networking problem. i can ping it. but no http01:51
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jale2icetaychouri-a, get a partition manager (partition magic) or even a linux liveCD and create a vfat partition with the free space you got... move all the songs into the partition then load the linux distro of your choice01:51
taychouri-alaunch pad is wokrin01:51
trojixDitto.01:51
exobuzzoh dear..01:51
kdittyhow do you know if you have gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x?01:52
neuroewell use that to install GTKPod01:52
jake1well hopefully someone can help me01:52
exobuzzweird. i can get to google on http but not launchpad!01:52
taychouri-asigh jale01:52
jale2icetaychouri-a, when you do all that and have your linux distro loaded and configured, mount -t vfat /dev/xdax /mnt/share or something of the sort01:52
taychouri-alol01:52
taychouri-aso confusing01:52
bruenigtaychouri-a, get the ubuntu live cd. Boot into and come in here. I can guide you through getting your music on a vfat partition and keeping them safe while the other partition gets formated for ubuntu01:52
hthi saw that gentoo wiki but its complicated for nothing... i might just need to know how to partition my 2 hd... then create dmraid... but i dont know how to make the partitions... thats my problem i know how to make regular ones.. but not for an array0 raid.. pissing me off since it sounds easyt with the alternate cd01:52
taychouri-akk bruenig01:52
taychouri-aone sec01:52
taychouri-acuz01:52
taychouri-ai used shipit01:52
jale2iceget a gentoo liveCD01:52
jale2ice:)01:52
bruenigthat is fine01:52
taychouri-aand i havend tried it01:52
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exobuzzaha. https is broken..01:52
taychouri-aso01:53
exobuzzhumph..01:53
taychouri-alemme get on it01:53
taychouri-aand i come back ok01:53
taychouri-a:)01:53
taychouri-athanks brue01:53
hthjale2ice???01:53
cafuegokditty: You have gtk 2.x01:53
trojixE17 in repository?01:53
zirpuis there an /etc/apt/sources.list tweak that can be used to dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 ?01:53
jale2icehth, i'm a gentoo user :/01:53
Harksawgot a little trouble... I just installed ubuntu on my D945GPM motherboard, and the onboard sound card is acting strangely. The PCM control on the Volume Control does nothing, only the Front control. The sound card works but the volume is almost inaudible on a large stereo. Ideas?01:53
SitouhTestCould someone help me get a wireless card running?01:53
hthim not trying to set it up on gentoo but on ubuntu dapper01:53
kdittyok, thanks01:53
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jale2icehth, i was kidding... glad you caught it minutes later01:54
bruenigzirpu, 6.06.1 is 6.06 with all of the accumunlated updates over the past few months01:54
bruenigso that if you do install now you don't have 190+ updates to install01:54
zirpuah. ok. thanks.01:54
jake1does anyone else have any ideas to why my screen looks like this, and what can i do to fix it01:54
cafuegohth: If you don't already use the software raid in windows, simply  set the controller to standard ide/sata mode, then use 'md' raid.01:54
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hthjale2ice i not feeling like laughing much but feeling to make it work asap\01:54
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jale2icehth, yeah...01:55
bruenig!patience01:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:55
trojixDoes anyone know if E17 is in the repository?01:55
bruenig!attitude > bruenig01:55
d0nk3yI need to run the command "qmake" it says command not found? is there some way to add the command?01:55
jale2icenice find bruenig :)01:55
hthcafuego ubuntu isnt installed yet... i was trying to set it up via alternate install disc01:55
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tehsud0nk3y: run make01:56
bruenigacse e1701:56
hththe problem im having is that i dont know how 2 partition my 2 hd to successfully make a array001:56
d0nk3ytehsu: http://pastebin.ca/14693201:56
hththat might be why it doesnt work01:56
d0nk3ytehsu: I need to allow it to run qmake01:56
bruenigtrojix, what is e1701:57
bruenig?01:57
UrbanCan anyone help me. When I try to install Ubuntu, it goes all the way through but then my screen go blank and I get a message saying "Out of frequency range" Is this problem specific to Ubuntu or should I google it?01:57
trojixbruenig, Enlightenment 17, the window manager.01:57
tehsuive never heard of a qmake01:57
bruenig!info enlightenment01:57
ubotuenlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB01:57
bruenigit is in universe trojix, do you have universe enabled?01:57
tehsu!info xchat01:58
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB01:58
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trojixI'm actually sitting on a LiveCD right now, was just curious.01:58
bruenigoh, well then yes01:58
trojixThanks.01:58
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tehsufinally it passed 57%01:58
tehsuyessssssss!01:58
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jordanaucan i safely resize my / partition?02:00
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hthwell02:00
Sitouhwweasel: Yes, my wireless card works when I turn off WPA security02:00
jale2icejordanau, yes02:00
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beowufftehsu, so, it looks like either a corrupt package on the first burn, or just burned too fast for the other cdrom to read...02:00
tehsuyup02:00
tehsui burnt this one at 4x02:01
tehsuotherone was at max02:01
jordanaujale2ice, just gun g or qparted from a live cd and reduct the size?02:01
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jordanaureduce *02:01
tehsuthanx for your help02:01
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tehsui would've never thought of a bad burn02:01
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jale2icejordanau, qparted works nice...02:01
jordanaujale2ice, and nothing special to do, all of my present data is stored at the beginning of the partition?02:02
makro02:02
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jale2icejordanau, i used parted02:03
jale2iceand it didn't care where the info was02:03
jordanaugreat thanks02:03
beowufftehsu, is this an older computer your installing on?02:03
tehsunope02:03
tehsuP-M 1.84 Gig Ram 60GB HDD02:03
jale2icejordanau, i used tools like resize_reiserfs and fdisk02:03
jale2icejordanau, i think it's the best way and it works02:04
tehsuok its done02:04
tehsubrb02:04
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jordanauthank you very much02:05
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fyyrest0rmanyone here have experience with world of warcraft under wine?02:06
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Harksawwhat does it mean if someone said they fixed a problem like mine by doing this: ""I used the old kext but with the rev2 plist"02:07
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madman-how do i get my programs ( like kmail ) to show in the app menu ?02:09
bruenigmadman, you mean the notification area or tray?02:09
bruenigor do you mean the applications menus that has the internet games and graphics submenus among others02:09
madman-bruenig: the application drop down menu02:10
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w30bruenig, go to the applications menu and pick alacarte menu editor and add it.02:10
pushpopwhere is source.list located?02:10
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taychouri-ak im on linux02:10
MatthewVpushpop, /etc/apt/sources.list02:10
bruenigmadman-, yeah you can add them via alacarte menu editor02:10
madman-bruenig: yes that one02:10
madman-looking02:10
pushpopthanks02:10
taychouri-abruenig: im on linux now. wanna help me out.02:10
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pushpopand how do I get the command "qmake" isntalled?02:11
w30bruenig, Gnome desktop although KDE has a menu editor too.02:11
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bruenigtaychouri-a, go to system>administration>Gnome partition editor02:11
DaveyJi'm installing kde along side gnome.. how do i run kde on another screen?02:11
bruenigw30, I didn't know if he was using kde02:11
bruenighe may be using kmail in gnome02:11
taychouri-abruenig: k yo. i got that up02:11
bruenigif he was using kde, seems like he would be in #kubuntu02:11
bruenigtaychouri-a, how many partitions does it show?02:12
madman-bruenig: very nice , thank you02:12
bruenignp02:12
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taychouri-abruenig: 2, (Unallocated 7.5mb, and something elsee called ntfs 38gb02:12
w30bruenig, yeah gets confusing don't it. kubuntu, gunbuntu and kubuntu. oh well02:12
dffdis there a list of wifi cards that ubuntu supports?02:12
FaithfulI can login with ftp-ssl ok and cwd but I cannot do ls it says "ftp: bind: Address already in use" now I know this is because it is bound to port 21 for security reasons but I don't seem to be able to get it to work02:13
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok,  how big is your music collection as far as mb is concerned02:13
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duanebauuugh02:13
taychouri-aumm, well i think its at02:14
taychouri-a15gb, so 15000mb?02:14
bruenigwow02:14
duanebI keep getting this error: digest veification failed, /usr/protage/kbproto-1.0.202:14
taychouri-alol, i know02:14
duanebreason: filesize issn't what it expected02:14
duanebhow can i fix this?02:14
taychouri-ai love music02:14
taychouri-a:)02:14
foxjwill_how do I make a windows ntfs partition writable? right now it's read-only02:14
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pushpopAny Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?02:14
bruenigok, so right click on the ntfs one and click resize, make it 22 GB, 38-15= 23 -1 just to make sure = 22 GB02:15
Ktron#xorg is dead, damn-- I think its safe to assume that ubuntu cannot be run on my machine02:15
Ktroner, Xorg cannot be run on my machine02:15
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foxjwill_any ideas02:15
foxjwill_?02:15
duanebanyone?02:15
duanebI really need to use emerge02:15
bruenigfoxjwill, there is some experiment ntfs writing on linux02:16
bruenig!ntfs02:16
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:16
w30DaveyJ,  i have done that but its been so long ago. It entails passing the display option of something like -display 0:1 instead of the default 0:0 to X02:16
foxjwill_thanks02:16
bruenigbut I am not sure how reliable it is02:16
DaveyJso technically i can run two different desktops on two different monitors?02:16
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foxjwill_what do you mean by '!fuse"?02:16
profoX`foxjwill_: it's not advised.. but the best thing until now is ntfs-3g I think02:16
foxjwill_ok02:16
bruenig!fuse02:16
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:16
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taychouri-abruenig: It wont let me resize under 28gb02:16
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bruenigtaychouri-a, dang, that means more work02:17
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profoX`foxjwill_: bruenig: that looks a bit out of date02:17
bruenigresize it to 28 gb02:17
taychouri-ak02:17
taychouri-adone02:17
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profoX`foxjwill_: bruenig: there is ntfs-3g that is more reliable/fast, but it's also still alpha/beta02:17
profoX`I would NOT advise writing on NTFS yet02:17
profoX`unless in windows :)02:17
foxjwill_ok02:17
bruenigtaychouri-a, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal02:17
foxjwill_i guess i'll stick to copying the files02:18
taychouri-ak02:18
foxjwill_thanks though02:18
profoX`foxjwill_: you can READ from ntfs fine02:18
profoX`just write support isn't all that good yet02:18
w30DaveyJ, I had two GUI screens going with the ctl-alt-F8 F7 or whatever. I don't know about different monitors02:18
bruenigtaychouri-a, sorry I skipped a few steps02:18
foxjwill_i know02:18
profoX`it should get better in a few months foxjwill_02:18
taychouri-alol02:18
taychouri-ak02:18
foxjwill_profox: i know02:18
DaveyJis it processor intensive?02:18
foxjwill_profox: i hope so02:18
profoX`foxjwill_: :) (blame microsoft!)02:18
bruenigtaychouri-a, go back into gparted. And right click the extra space and hit new02:18
izirkushorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?02:19
taychouri-athe unallocated?02:19
bruenigno the new stuff that you just created out of the ntfs02:19
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bruenigwhich is also unallocated. not the 7.5 mb, the 10 gb02:19
taychouri-awhat new stuff, i have the same things, except ones 10 gb, and ones 27gb02:19
foxjwill_profox: Gates' mother was a hampster and his father smelt of elderberries02:19
bruenigright click on the 10 gb one02:20
taychouri-akk02:20
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taychouri-ai pressed new02:20
bruenigmake it logical and make the file format fat32, I think they call it fat3202:20
bruenigif it doesn't say fat32 or there is a vfat option under filesystem, choose vfat02:20
taychouri-ait wont let me call it logical02:20
profoX`foxjwill_: what? ._.02:20
profoX`lol02:20
wikijeffAny idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.02:20
profoX`taychouri-a: logical / extended / ...?02:21
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok, well, you are going to get rid of that ntfs partition eventually right?02:21
taychouri-ayeah02:21
taychouri-acuz02:21
bruenigok call it primary02:21
taychouri-ak i added i02:21
bruenigit is formatted at fat32?02:21
bruenigor vfat or whatever02:21
taychouri-ayeah02:21
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bruenigok02:21
taychouri-afat3202:21
foxjwill_profox: haven't you seen the Holy Grail?02:22
bruenigwhat is the name of the 10 gb and 27 gb partitions. SHould be something like /dev/something02:22
francaissalut02:22
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taychouri-athe 27gb is /dev/hdc1, and the 10gb is New Partition #102:23
profoX`foxjwill_: no..02:23
francaishi02:23
bruenigit doesn't have another name except new partition one?02:23
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bruenigtaychouri-a, ok yeah hit apply02:23
taychouri-ano02:23
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taychouri-ak its doin it02:23
bruenigit is up at the top of the gui02:23
francaishow are you going02:23
JbirkI need shorewall configureation help02:23
Jbirkany shorewall experts?02:23
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bruenigonce it applies it should give it a name, tell me that when it does02:24
taychouri-ak02:24
taychouri-athey are btoh02:24
annaravejust wanted to say thanks to the folks who helped me earlier today on my partitioning.02:24
SillyZevening, could someone send me a plain jane default smb.conf from with ubuntu instllation or a kubuntu install?02:24
taychouri-a(/dev/hdc102:24
taychouri-abut02:24
francaishi02:24
annaravehi everyone02:24
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taychouri-aone is 38gb, and one is 7 mb, and the 38gb is unknown type02:24
foxjwill_profox: Monty Python and the Holy Grail?02:24
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bruenigtaychouri-a, it didn't create a 28 gb and 10 gb?02:25
taychouri-anope02:25
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profoX`foxjwill_: no i havent seen it.. it's an old movie.. i've seen alot of monty sketches but not that movie02:25
bruenigok tray to partition it again. Keep the ntfs partition a little bigger. It might not like such a drastic resize02:26
bruenigtry*02:26
james_xxxdoes anyone in here use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter? OR a wusb54gs? i have both..02:26
taychouri-ayeah02:26
bruenigdo all the same stuff. make ntfs 30 and new fat32 8 gb02:26
taychouri-ai think i jsut fucked up my frives02:26
taychouri-adrives02:26
taychouri-acuz02:26
taychouri-ait wont let me make a new one02:26
foxjwill_profox: you have to see it02:26
bruenigright click on the ntfs and hit resize02:27
taychouri-aor resize02:27
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taychouri-aits messe dup man02:27
bruenigwell hit reload02:27
annaravenomego was really helpful earlier. thanks.02:27
taychouri-ai did02:27
Don_jrI'm back and having trouble with installing Ubuntu02:27
annaraveDon_jr: what problem are you having?02:27
bruenigall of your data is still there02:27
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bruenigtry closing and reopening it02:27
profoX`foxjwill_: well .. ok .. if i see it in the videostore i'll buy it ;p02:28
Don_jrI clicked on the install button while in live CD mode, window popped up saying 'install' in the header, window is blank other than that and the disk has stopped responding.02:28
taychouri-akk brue02:28
taychouri-alisten to what i did02:28
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taychouri-ai fixed it02:28
taychouri-abut02:28
taychouri-alisten02:28
taychouri-amy ntfs02:28
taychouri-ais now 21gb02:28
bruenig!enter02:28
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:28
Corporal_DirgeHello, anyone have experience with pw protected rar files in Ubuntu?02:28
FearoI have a problem with my Apache. My www is /home/user/dev/www and each time i add a new file, i need to set the CHMOD back. Is there a way to auto set all  chmod to 755?02:29
SillyZcan someone send a default smb.conf from a kubuntu or ubuntu installation, I need one to compare it to the xfce installation02:29
wikijeffAny idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.02:29
bruenigget to the point where you have two partitions, they are both named. One is ntfs and one is fat32. Tell me the name.02:29
annaraveah. well, good luck on it. i've gotta run my son to a school dinner now. good luck. ciao02:29
Don_jrubuntu needs fat32 to install or ntfs?02:29
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bruenigsillyZ where is the smb.conf file02:30
MadpilotDon_jr, neither. Default format is ext302:30
c0nfidencalext3, reiserfs...02:30
bruenigtaychouri-a, are you still there02:30
Don_jrSo if I"m trying on a fat32 system that will cause a problem?02:30
Don_jrmaybe that why it locked up on me?02:30
taychouri-aK listen to what i have,  NTFS - 21.65 gb (/dev/hdc1) FAT32- 16.63gb (/dev/hdc3) fat32- 7.84mb (/dev/hdc2)02:31
FearoCan someone help me? Each time I add a new file in my /home/user/dev/www folder, i need to chmod it. Is there a way to auto-chmod it?02:31
bruenigtaychouri-a, that is good02:31
taychouri-ak, i already hit apply02:31
bruenigtaychouri-a, open up that terminal02:31
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Corporal_DirgeDoes anyone know how to put a pw in for a rar file?02:31
SillyZbruenig, usually in /etc02:31
taychouri-akk its open02:31
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neuroehiya02:32
PMantisIs vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?02:32
bruenigdo the following commands "mkdir hdc1" "mkdir hdc3"02:32
tehsuHow do I get native resolution02:32
izirkushorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?02:32
tehsuI set it fine, but the screen doesnt want to change02:32
MadpilotDon_jr, if you're installing Ubuntu, it will want to reformat a partition to ext3 (at least one partition)02:32
taychouri-ak i entered them02:32
SillyZbruenig, sorry went to go grab a cup of coffee, Im just trying to prove theory here, cuz smb networking is fine under ubuntu and kubuntu, but the smb.conf in xubuntu either dosent exist or is there but blank02:32
neuroesmb3 is sweet02:33
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bruenigsillyz, i don't see a smb.conf under /etc02:33
SillyZtry /etc/smb02:33
bruenigtaychouri-a ok. do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/hdc1"02:33
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abaddonokay I have a question regarding instlalling using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and it still doesn't boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent02:33
bruenigls | grep smb gives nothing02:33
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abaddoncan anyone help me?02:34
bruenigthat while in /etc02:34
Don_jrOkay, why would it freeze up on me? any clue?02:34
bruenigI did locate smb.conf but that is under a samba directory is that what you want02:34
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SillyZbruenig, sorry its /etc/samba/smb.conk02:34
SillyZerr conf02:34
neuroedid yo use a nes emulator?02:34
taychouri-abruenig: When i put ~hdc1, it said it didnt exist, i took out the ~ and it worked, but it didnt say it did anything, the cd drive made a sound and thats it02:34
SillyZthanks bruenig02:35
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bruenigtaychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc102:35
bruenigtaychouri-a, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc102:35
bruenigsorry I was getting ready for the next command02:35
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jjazzHi, I'm trying to umount a dvd, but keep getting told /media/cdrom0: device is busy.  I can't figure out what is keeping it busy.  How can I umount it?  Thanks.02:36
viator_im trying to build  qemu fromt i have source its complaing  that i have gcc 4X and  it wants 3X02:36
bruenigtaychouri-a, but it doesn't matter the other command works too but only because you are in the directory that you are in02:36
bruenigso don't worry about it02:36
viator_whats the proper package name to install it?02:36
taychouri-akk i entered the next thing02:36
Ranbeecan someone tell me the name of the program which show how HDD space in pictures, please?02:36
foxjwill_jjazz: is that your dvd drive?02:36
bruenigtaychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc3 hdc3"02:36
jjazzfoxjwill_: yes02:36
taychouri-ak02:37
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SillyZbruenig, now lets see if theory works02:37
viator_whats the name of the package to install gcc 3x ?02:37
tehsuI have an X700 and the native resolution is a 1680x1050 but it wont set to that any ideas?02:38
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok now go up to the menu again and go to places>home folder, there should be two directories in there called hdc1 and hdc302:38
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taychouri-ayeah02:38
taychouri-atherse 202:38
foxjwill_jjazz: well then. I'm not completely sure. sorry.02:38
bruenigtaychouri-a, the hdc1 has your ntfs, the hdc3 has your fat32, open the ntfs and find your music and copy and paste it into the hdc3 or fat3202:38
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abaddonsorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive02:39
jjazzfoxjwill_: Ok, thanks02:39
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taychouri-aIt says " You don't have permission necessary to view the contents of HDC102:39
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jake1errrrrrrrrr02:39
jake1this is frustrating02:39
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viator_it wont allow that resolution under system>prefrences>screen resolution?02:39
jake1so much documentation but none address my problem02:40
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Don_jrokay, ubuntu sticks when I'm trying to install....any ideas as to what I can do to troublshoot this problem?02:40
bruenigtaychouri-a, that is bothersome, go back into the terminal and do gksudo nautilus02:40
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bruenigthen within that window do the copying and pasting02:40
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taychouri-ait now says02:41
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taychouri-ain the terminal " why connection to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : Non of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."02:42
bruenigyeah but did the window pop up?02:42
Don_jrshould I try and install from safe graphics mode? or normal install?02:42
bruenigthat is a bug. It doesn't mean anything02:43
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taychouri-ayeah it popped out02:43
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taychouri-aits in root02:43
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bruenigok, click file system on the left. then go to home. then  ubuntu, your stuff should be in there02:43
bruenigonce in there go into the ntfs stuff find your music directory. Copy it and then go back and then into your fat32 and paste it02:44
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grout58how can i format a drive from the command line02:44
taychouri-ai go into hdc102:44
taychouri-aand it says 0 items02:44
abaddonsorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive have not found anything usefull on the forums.02:44
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taychouri-aand thers a lock sign on hdc102:45
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bruenigtaychouri-a, when you miraculously resized it before to 21, you never deleted it right. You only resized right?02:45
taychouri-ayupp02:45
taychouri-ai never pressed delete02:45
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bruenigso you go into hdc1, and there is nothing in that directory?02:46
taychouri-anothin man02:46
taychouri-ai was 27gb out of 3802:46
taychouri-ais that why is only let me make 10 gb that time?02:46
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bruenigit should not resize it below how much diskspace was used in it02:46
taychouri-ayeah, well i forced it to, cuz you told me02:47
Don_jrOkay, if I run ubuntu live CD mode, will the CD ever slow down while it's running that way if I don't touch it?02:47
taychouri-alol02:47
bruenignot true02:47
TonrenHey guys, how do I share files between two Ubuntu machines using "NFS"?02:47
bruenigok taychouri-a, go back into the terminal and type "cd hdc1"02:47
bruenigthen type ls02:47
bruenig"ls"02:47
bruenigtell me what the output is.02:48
taychouri-aPermission Denied02:48
bruenigsudo cd hdc102:48
bruenigthen ls02:48
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taychouri-acd command not found02:48
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Don_jrlib/firmware/mrv8k-b.fw error loading for device /class/firmware/00000:02:00.0' with driver mrv8k02:48
bruenigcd command not found?02:48
taychouri-ayea02:49
bruenighow is that possible. Do cd /02:49
taychouri-athat worked02:49
brueniglol02:49
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taychouri-asith02:49
taychouri-asigh02:49
bruenigthe command appears to be found now02:49
taychouri-awhy do i have such bad luck02:49
bruenigok do "cd"02:49
Don_jranyone tell me what that error means?02:49
bruenigthen do ls, tell me the output02:49
taychouri-ai got lots of blue words02:50
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bruenigthose words being02:50
bruenigwas hdc1 and hdc3 amongst them?02:50
TonrenGuys, does the Share Folders GUI actually work??02:50
taychouri-anope02:50
taychouri-ai got02:50
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taychouri-abin cdrom etc initrd lib mnt proc root srv tmp var boot dev home initrd.img media opt rofs sbin sys usr vmlinux02:51
bruenigyou didn't get opt home etc boot usr, etc did you?02:51
taychouri-alinuz02:51
bruenigtaychouri-a, do "cd"02:51
bruenigyou must do cd first to get to the right directory02:51
bruenigthen do ls02:51
taychouri-ak02:51
Don_jrDamn, I cannot get this to install....02:51
andaxTonren, install "nfs-kernel-server" package, then have a look at /etc/exports (this file contains what and how you share) , then use "mount ipaddress:/shared/folder " on the other box to mount the exported folders02:51
bruenig!alternate02:51
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.02:51
taychouri-anow i get02:51
bruenigtry that don02:51
taychouri-adesktop hdc1 hdc302:52
bruenigthat is how it should be02:52
Corporal_DirgeAnyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?02:52
bruenigok do cd hdc102:52
taychouri-apermission denies02:52
Tonrenandax: Should I not bother with the GUI?02:52
Don_jrI'm no expert and wouldn't know the commands to use in a text based installation if I had it....lol02:52
mistraalanyone know how to change the default home directory for suexec on Apache2?02:52
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andaxTonren, sorry I can't help you with the gui02:52
Tonrenandax: It's OK< I prefer doing things CLI anyway02:53
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taychouri-ait lets me go to hdc3 but not hdc102:53
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bruenigtaychouri-a, see if this works. "chown -R ubuntu hdc1"02:54
bruenigadd sudo in front of that02:54
bruenigsudo chown -R ubuntu hdc102:54
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taychouri-aChaangiing ownership of 'HDC1'02:54
bruenigafter that do cd hdc102:54
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Don_jrokay, totally wiped and formatted HD I'm trying to install on from teh ubuntu live CD download.  Should I wait till it is completely done loading the live CD session efore I run the install?02:55
taychouri-astill permistion denied02:55
bruenigdon_jr, yeah, double click the desktop icon once it does02:55
falkonI just read through the FAQ pages, and I didn't see the answer I need.  Can you use the unofficial debian repositories [www.debian-multimedia.org]  with ubuntu?02:55
taychouri-aoh02:55
taychouri-aafter the change02:55
taychouri-aion owner ship02:55
taychouri-ait says02:55
argumentanyone know how i can get 4front oss to work with esd?02:55
taychouri-aread only02:55
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bruenigbut you can go in it?02:56
taychouri-ano02:56
taychouri-ait denies permsion02:56
bruenigone last shot here "sudo chmod 77 -R hdc1"02:56
bruenigsudo chmod 777 -R hdc102:56
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Tonrenandax: How could I tell hosts.allow to only allow a specific user on a specific hostname on the local network?02:56
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taychouri-achanging permissions of hdc1: read only file system02:57
riddleboxdo I need python-pythoncard?02:57
friolocoanyone know of a tutorial for dvd->xvid in ubuntu?02:57
bruenigcan you cd into it now02:57
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taychouri-annope02:57
Don_jrOkay, how will I know when the live CD is done with it's setup?  Will the disk quiet down a bit?02:57
taychouri-amy files are gone arent they02:57
taychouri-asigh02:57
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bruenigyou can still do it. But you can only move over the files after install. Which might actually be easier02:58
taychouri-aisnt there a way02:58
taychouri-ato take it off my ipod02:58
bruenigtaychouri-a yeah02:58
bruenigdo you have them on your ipod02:58
janbananDoes anyone know if there is a guide on how to make a program "bar" that look like the one on the bottom of this picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26448&file1=26448-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=nuoveXT02:58
taychouri-ayes02:58
taychouri-alol02:58
bruenigwtf02:58
duanebeeeugh02:58
viator_ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output02:59
viator_To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check02:59
viator_Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card.02:59
Don_jrif Ubuntu will not load, is there another decent version of *nix system I can try out?02:59
duanebemerge needs a progress bar or something02:59
viator_whoops02:59
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viator_i know pastebin02:59
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Corporal_DirgeAnyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?02:59
taychouri-aCorporal_Dirge:  Why are files passworded?02:59
viator_anyone know what sdl package to install to get rid of that error?02:59
bruenigok, restart your computer. When it boots up double click the install button, Wipe the whole drive and install. If you need help moving the music off the ipod afterwards. Come in here I guarantee you somebody can help you there as popular as that stuff is03:00
TonrenHey, what channel would I head to if I wanted to ask some general questions about networking, network permissions, etc. on GNU servers?03:00
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taychouri-akk03:00
taychouri-aman thanks03:00
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taychouri-aso i gotta delete the apritions03:00
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taychouri-aand shti03:00
taychouri-akk03:00
Corporal_Dirgetaychouri-a, I archived it, but I can't remember the pw.. But I'm more interested in how to use Linux to open it03:00
mneptokjanbanan: use E's Engage app, or adesklets or gdesklets03:00
bruenigtaychouri-a, it will do it in the install03:00
bruenigyou can delete them if you want with gparted but it doesn't really matter because it will do it in the install03:01
andaxCorporal_Dirge, go to www.rarsoft.com , download the linux console version, tar -xzvf rar-xxx.tgz, make install, then you'll have the 'unrar' command. When extracting pw protected files (unrar x whatever.rar) it will ask for the password.03:01
taychouri-aCorporal_Dirge: Oh ok! :) I thought you were trying to open something that wasn't yours  :P03:01
janbananmneptok: thanks mate03:01
viator_!kqemu03:01
ubotukqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8603:01
taychouri-awell brb! Ic ant wait for this!03:01
slid3rany one know the quick and dirty wayo to handle the totem error :: No URI handler implemented for "mms".03:01
TonrenIs there a way to give NFS permissions ONLY to a specific COMPUTER - not IP address?03:01
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Corporal_Dirgeandax, ok, thanks. I have the rar plugin for Archive manager, but the pw field was always grey and didn't allow pw entry,.03:01
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fyyrest0rmhow can i use adept to browse categories (games, internet, etc)?03:02
andaxCorporal_Dirge, i guess you'll have to use the console version :(03:02
fyyrest0rmor is it even possible?03:02
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Corporal_Dirgeadax, so just unrar <pw> file?03:02
tapio_How come ubuntu doesn't have software mixing by default?03:02
andaxCorporal_Dirge, unrar x something.rar , and it will ask for the password03:02
Corporal_Dirgeadax, What's the x for?03:03
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andaxCorporal_Dirge, eXtract :)03:03
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plumaIs there a way to resize a mounted partition?03:03
Corporal_Dirgeadax, it's not -x? I'll try it now.03:03
w30janbanan, the bar is standard gnome configured in the panel prefs menu. the icons will have to ge gotten from gmom-look,org or wherever....03:03
jake1these documentations are useless.....03:03
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skarfacehow do I override icons that were changed by a theme, specifically those for applciations on the gnome panel?03:04
jake1anyone have any idea why only part of my screen works when i am trying to install Ubuntu.... this makes it impossible to install ubuntu since i can't see what i am doing...... any help would be appreciated03:04
andaxCorporal_Dirge, type it exactly like this: "unrar x something,rar" then give the correct password, and it will unrar the archive with full paths stored03:04
jake1http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg03:04
w30janbanan, using options like hide handles, center color choices etc. You can play all day :=)03:04
jake1that is a photo of what i am talking about03:04
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tehsuWhat is wrong if the resolution wont set correctly?03:05
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janbananw30: Do you know if there are any tips & tricks page?03:05
falkonscrew it, debian time03:05
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w30no, but I got a bar configured like that by playing half a day and using icon sets downloaded from gnome-look.org. I think the icons were called believe it or not osx03:07
plumaAnyone?03:07
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ISOLATEDViRuSok, when my screensaver turns on, or I try to change which screensaver I want to use, my system freezes up on me and I have to force a shutdown and reboot.03:08
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TLE_02I'm looking for a command to cut a piece out of an audiofile with, any suggestions ?03:08
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andaxjake1, i am not sure but as no one else is answering... try passing a "vga=771" parameter to the kernel while booting the installer, but that's just a guess. (that's how I installed it on my laptop)03:08
taychouri-1Can someone help me with partitions?03:08
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jake1how would i do that andax?03:09
dasteve2Does anyone have experience setting up widescreen displays to display native resolution in X?03:09
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bitblithi all; i'm trying to use gconf-editor, but when i make changes they dont persist. specifiaclly, i am trying to add the 'water' plugin to compiz :)03:10
w30janbanan, I recomend that you create a new user account and play with it in case you want to go back to something standard and can't get there. Ha! been there,etc.03:10
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taychouri-1How can i make 2 partitions come together03:10
dasteve2delete one and extend the other03:10
VOYAGERwithout loosing data ?03:11
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wweaselI am experiencing a very ood problem right now. I just plugged in my iRiver, but it seems that Gnome's panels and such have crashed. Rhythmbox launched and stopped working. Everything seemed dead, but I launched a terminal using a keyboard shortcut and launched x-chat. help?03:11
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taychouri-1no i wanna install ubuntu03:11
taychouri-1but03:11
taychouri-1one sec03:11
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w30taychouri-1, have you got stuff on them that you want to keep?03:11
mike_hi hi03:11
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taychouri-1i cant get it off03:11
taychouri-1cuz i want my msuic03:11
taychouri-1but03:11
janbananw30: Ok. thanks. I've done it once on breezy but can't remember how I did it. there was a guide on the forum but I cant find it03:12
taychouri-1i am gunna take my msuic off my ipod?03:12
taychouri-1isnt that better?03:12
viator_!sdl03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
taychouri-1I just want 1 partition03:12
andaxjake1, i can't remember exactly but when the install CD boots up, and the first screen appears (when you choose to install , safe graphic mode etc) try pressing keys from F1 to F8 , and additional install options will be displayed.03:13
dasteve2as far as i know there is no way of joining partitions that doesnt lose data, you should back up the data of one partition, delete it, and extend the other, using a bootable cd with a partition manager03:13
taychouri-1how can i add the un allocated tot he ntfs03:13
jake1oh ok03:13
jake1i will try that03:13
dasteve2im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas?03:13
jake1thanx03:13
taychouri-1there i got it03:14
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mike_can anyone who is really good with ubuntu look at this for me please ???03:14
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699403:14
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Dravas!nvidia03:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:14
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Dravas<3 ubotu03:14
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cdubyacan you change the boot splash screen to something else other than the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu verbose?03:15
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dasteve2the drivers are installed correctly03:15
w30taychouri-1, if you want to keep files that are on both partitions then you will want to back up the files and copy them or at least one set of the files on the partition that you delete.03:15
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bbrazilcdubya: yes, check the usplash docs03:15
jake1i was just kinda scoping out the possibility of installing Fedora Core on my laptop, but i'm not sure whether to check x86_64 or if i should select i38603:15
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jake1it's an AMD Turion 64-bit ML 3203:16
knoppix_keep it real03:16
cdubyabbrazil, not usplash03:16
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tehsuIf I install ati driver using the run file, what else do i need to do besides running the installer03:16
Corporal_Dirgeadax, ok, I foud out why it was passwording me.. file is partially corrupt.. CLI has a repair mode that got most of it back =)03:17
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NewtoUbuntuHey does any1 know if it is possible to get a wireless keyboard that is specifically designed for Windows xp to work on Linux even though it is not on the keyboards list?03:17
jake1i'm gonna try to install this one more time03:17
jake1see what happens03:17
jake1bbiab03:17
Corporal_DirgeNewtoUbuntu, Usually it'll work with the exception of the extra keys.03:17
SoCalI don't like wireless....batteries die too fast for me03:17
SoCallol03:18
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NewtoUbuntuok thanks ill give it a try.. so i just plug it in correct?03:18
w30jake1, I use x86_64 on a desktop and it is faster with x86_64 but a few things llike shockwave flash and wmv playing is missing on the 64bit distro because of foot draging from people like Swhockwave Microsoft 64 bit and RealPlay1003:18
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Corporal_DirgeNewtoUbuntu, Yup,.03:18
VOYAGERmike_, if you log on as sudo you should be able to change to infastructure03:18
ielliottHas there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?03:18
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dasteve2im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas? ive been googling for a long time, no luck yet03:18
NewtoUbuntukk well ill try thank u much corporal_dirge03:19
bitbliti'm following instructions for using gconf-editor, but it does not save changes that I make... any ideas?03:19
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james_xxx?03:19
Don_jrOkay, live CD is running and starting to set up03:19
mike_VOYAGER: ehm.... what would I type at command line?03:19
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SoCalI only configured mine for 1024x76803:19
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VOYAGERdasteve2,  try reducing the color to 24 and try to get your rez then03:19
Don_jrand the computer just shut it's self off.......03:19
Don_jrwhat the hell?03:19
SoCalhmm03:20
SoCaldunno03:20
NemesisUKDon_jr, is the computer having temp. probs?03:20
Don_jrgot to "loading hardware" and poof, went off03:20
Don_jrdo'nt think so, not sure03:20
VOYAGERmike_, i just log in as sudo and use the gui setup sorry no cli here03:20
SoCalI'm using xchat in a liveCD version of Knoppix....pretty nice, but I really like Ubuntu....very easy setup03:20
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MadpilotDon_jr, is this a CD you burned yourself, or a ShipIt one?03:20
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Don_jrISO I burnt03:20
NemesisUKcheck the disk03:21
Don_jrokay03:21
MadpilotDon_jr, did you run md5sum on the ISO before you burned it?03:21
andaxkyja, who cares? turn that script off please.. thank you03:21
SoCalDon_jr, what speed did you burn the disk at?03:21
FearMothis there any program that I can use to cut clips out of a dvd or quicktime video and save them as mpeg, avi or .mov ?03:21
Don_jrno, don't know what that is and I burnt it in windows03:21
Don_jr12X speed03:21
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SoCalthat should be ok03:21
plumaHah. Catch 22. I can't copy my MP3 collection over to my Linux box because I don't have enough free space and I can't simply add another harddisk because I would need to buy a new controller, for which I currently lack the money. In order to earn money, I would need to get some coding done, for which I need more RAM, which I can't buy because I don't have enough money.03:21
justin_Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?03:21
VOYAGERDon_jr,  try burning at 8x03:22
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SoCalya...maybe what someone else said...check the checksum03:22
plumaWell, actually only the last bit qualifies, but I can't code without music anyway.03:22
SoCalmaybe corrupt file03:22
VOYAGERbut yes check md503:22
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w30Don_jr, google for md5sum for windows03:22
Don_jrokay, how do I check the checksum from windows?03:22
Don_jrokay03:22
Don_jrmd5sum03:22
VOYAGERmd5summer03:22
Don_jrwhole word?03:23
rummiksomething like that03:23
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Don_jrmd5summer03:23
w30Don_jr, I bellieve it is md5sum.exe?03:23
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SoCalhas anyone watched the hak.5 videos?03:23
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rummiki bet that hurt them more than it did us :P03:23
SoCallots of stuff03:23
bimberi!netsplit03:24
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:24
ielliottHas there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?03:24
EpPi have 2 linux computers one is a laptop that gets wireless and the other is a desktop that i want to get internet from the laptop... how do i do this?03:24
ielliotti ran the desktop install, and when it loads the graphic is fine, and the command line is fine, but when i get to the login screen its all screwy03:24
ielliottand i only set it for 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480 nothing fancy03:24
VOYAGERhttp://www.md5summer.org/03:24
Don_jrI've found a site that has it03:24
w30Don_jr, but Bill don't furnish it. You will have get download the execute binary and install it to run it.03:24
rummikty ubotu03:24
Don_jrI run that file and direct the program to the .ISO file?03:24
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NemesisUKDon_jr, yes03:24
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Don_jrok03:25
VOYAGERdload the md5 hash from the dload site03:25
plumaAlso, what's with the 700-odd MB RAM Ubuntu seems to be using only to power Gnome, XChat, Firefox, Kopete, Thunderbird and a few services? Is Firefox collecting dead weight again or what?03:25
Don_jrthe install made it past the loading hardware this time....03:25
w30Don_jr, yeah, md5sum xxx.iso03:25
EpPhow do i do internet sharing in ubuntu03:25
andaxEpP, apt-get install ipmasq on the laptop, and "route add default gw laptop" on the desktop (check the ipmasq man page for detailed info)03:25
justin_Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?03:25
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Don_jrokay downloading now03:25
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Don_jrthen, if no errors, try burning at a slower speed?03:26
VOYAGERDon_jr,  kool03:26
VOYAGERyes03:26
SoCali would try a slower speed03:26
w30Don_jr, yeah Whatsisname VOYAGER says and compare numbers03:26
Don_jrit's loading at the moment on the laptop, hasn't locked up again yet03:26
tnzrI wonder if the polite thing to do is always the right thing to do.  When I met the family from Japan, they all bowed.  I pretended like I was going to bow, but then I just kept going and flipped over on my back.  I did this five times.  I think they got the point.03:26
SoCal8x or 4x03:26
Don_jrcompare numbers to what?03:26
dalilatried 2 ps/2 mice and they dont work , i just bought a brand new hp/ps2 model M871 and it wont work  how can i reconfigure just the mouse to get it to work03:26
Whatsisnamewhat?03:26
dalilacat /proc/interupts does not show it03:27
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w30Don_jr, there is a text file at the sight of your iso that has the md5sum numbers in it that the md5sum.exe output generates03:27
MrParanoiawhy is /etc/rc.local disabled by default?03:28
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andaxdalila, ps2 mice may need a reboot to become working (don't know why)03:28
dalilai did reboot03:28
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BOBSONATORSweet, first time in irc,03:28
ironyCurtainHi all.  I cannot for the life of me get my wireless to work on my laptop.  It is Intel Pro 2200 Wireless (Centrino), and it uses the ipw2200 driver.  It is detected on eth1, and it can see wireless networks in my area, but when I try to connect to my wireless network through Network Settings it says it is disconnected.  I installed wifi-radar, and I made more progress with it.  It actually sends packets but is repeatedly connecting a03:28
plumaIs 256 MB RAM enough for WinXP to run only WiMP and BitTorrent or will I regret that?03:28
w30Don_jr, an incorrectly downloaded file will generate different md5sums03:28
tnzrironyCurtain: is wpa_supplicant installed?03:29
plumaHm... I'll better leave it 512 MB. Just for good measure.03:29
BOBSONATORIrony curtain, click the icon, then hit the drop down box, and then hit the thing03:29
BOBSONATORhit your network03:29
daliladmesg does now show it either03:29
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hou5tonok ... i have video playing on CNN and YouTube ... but it won't play at all on MSNBC and only the sound plays on FoxNews.03:29
ironyCurtaintnzr: no, i use WEP03:30
BOBSONATORbecause its a wmv03:30
Don_jrso if I run it twice it will be different each time if there's errors?03:30
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tnzrironyCurtain: iwconfig eth1 essid <your essid> channel <your channel>03:30
hou5tonBOBSONATOR:  is it also wmv on Fox?03:30
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tnzrironyCurtain: then ifup eth103:30
BOBSONATORi think so03:30
mike_someone told me to login as sudo03:30
mike_how do I do this????03:30
BOBSONATORsu03:30
Jbirkwhat is Ubuntu max color depth?03:30
profoXmike_: you don't03:30
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profoXmike_: you type: sudo command03:30
mike_profoX: then why were tehy telling me this!?03:30
evan_how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu03:30
mike_profoX: they SPECIFICALLY SAID login as sudo03:31
profoXmike_: sudo means: execute this command as root03:31
mike_makes no sense03:31
BOBSONATORsu, then password, then you are root.03:31
profoXmike_: they said wrong.03:31
w30Don_jr, like files will generate like md5sums when you run md5sum and read the output03:31
profoXmike_: you can only login as sudo if you have a user named sudo ;)03:31
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> turn off the wep when using public networks (hotspots)03:31
tnzrmike_: sudo is a command03:31
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mike_profoX: it means execute as another user03:31
tnzrnot a user03:31
andaxhou5ton, it's not a problem to play wmv files, try using mplayer-plugin ( http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ )03:31
SoCalsudo means superuser do03:31
mike_tnzr: you're five minutes too late, and I already know, kthnx03:31
w30Don_jr, think of the md5sum as the total and correct number of bites in the file03:31
tnzrit means execute as root (superuser = su = "sudo")03:31
SoCalmeans do this command using su03:31
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profoXmike_: what SoCal says03:32
tnzrmike_: listen to yourself, kthx03:32
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tnzrand dont say "kthx" in a Linux channel and expect serious help03:32
hou5tonandax:  ya .. that's what I have .. the extension installed for firefox, etc. ... and CNN uses it just fine???03:32
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: this is my home network though, technically my roommate's, i can't turn off encryption03:32
tnzrI guess you could in #ubuntu.. nevermind.03:32
mike_right, let's stop useless chat and see if anyone can fix my wireless :p03:32
Don_jrokay w30 where I'm confused is, if I run the md5 on the .ISO file, I get a number, what do I compare that number to to see if there is an error?03:32
andaxhou5ton, never tried, i'll check it03:32
hou5tonandax:  How do I get the other websites to use it03:32
evan_how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu?03:32
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mike_evan_: buy a switch.... =)03:32
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felipe___rubyonrails03:32
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MrParanoiaironyCurtain> you can't turn off the WEP on your laptop or on the router?03:33
evan_mike_, have one...03:33
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mike_evan_: buy a router....  shrug.03:33
w30Don_jr, the other supposedly matching number will be posted on the internet at the same place that offered the iso file for downloading03:33
evan_mike_, have 103:33
PhoulDoes anyone here know anything about darkbot (i know its not the right room just curious)03:33
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: The WEP isn't the issue, I think, because it does the same thing when connecting to an unsecured network.03:33
mark__In the repository their is linux-686 and linux-686-smp, when either one is set to be installed it marks the same 686 kernel's? so does it not matter which I select for a Pentium4 to get hyperthreading?03:33
Don_jrokay, thank you03:33
Don_jrI"ll go look and see if I can find that info now so I know what I"m looking for03:33
tnzrironyCurtain: did you try the iwconfig/ifup eth1 stuff?03:34
evan_mike_, i have a laptop that get wireless that i want to share with the pc in my room so i dont have to run a wire down the hall03:34
profoXevan_: internet sharing? with a router that shouldn't be a problem - or do I miss something03:34
viator_plug other computers into the router lol03:34
dalilawhen i burn with gnomebaker i get this error Using IMAGESPRODUCTSEARRINGSF000.JPEG;1 for  /home/dalila/Desktop/olddocs/Bracelets With A Story/item.asp_files/imagesproductsearringsfruitwhite.jpeg (imagesproductsearringsfruitblue.jpeg)03:34
dalilaIncorrectly encoded string (in cursos UNE.xls) encountered.03:34
dalilaPossibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting03:34
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tnzrevan: your laptop running ubuntu?03:34
andaxhou5ton, i checked www.cnn.com , the videos are playing fine for me using mplayer-plugin + firefox03:34
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> if you have WEP turned on when using a network that doesn't use WEP, it won't connect03:34
evan_tnzr, yes both comps03:34
w30mark__, smp stands for multiple processors03:34
profoXevan_: is the computer connected to the router?03:35
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hou5tonandax:  I know .... it's FoxNEws that only the sound works, and on MSNBC, nothing does03:35
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> otherwise, you're using the wrong WEP key03:35
profoXor how do you want to share the internet?03:35
tnzrevan_: its kind of a long story but I think youd use iptables.. wireless card woul dbe the external and your lan card would be the internal, your laptop would be the router03:35
viator_are you saying you want the linux box to act as a gateway /router03:35
andaxhou5ton, oh okay checking them03:35
viator_to share its connection?03:35
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tnzryoud need to read up on using iptables and linux for routing purposes03:35
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evan_profoX, im on the laptop right now... i just want to share this connection with the desktop in my room03:35
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: i turn it off when connecting to an unsecured network03:36
SoCaldoes your desktop have a wireless card too?03:36
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> if you have a firewall installed, consider turning it off for testing03:36
profoXevan_: without having to put a cable in the router u mean?03:36
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699403:36
tnzryour desktop wouldnt need a wireless card, you could plug it directly into your laptops ethernet jack03:36
tnzrerr03:36
tnzrinto a hub into your laptops ethernet jack03:36
dalilabrb03:36
mark__w30, I know so which should I select to have hyperthreading does that count as multiple cpu's, just I read in the ubuntu forums about this saying it should be linux-686-smp but it seems to point to the same 686 kernels.03:36
klhrevolutionist Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?03:36
evan_so like MODEM -> router ---wireless--> Laptop ---WIRE--> desktop03:36
tnzrevan_: you can prolly do it that way but ive never done it without a hub between the laptop -> desktop03:37
fangoriousi'm messing around with having multiple ServerLayout sections in xorg.conf, and have two of the intended three working. I assume I have to pick which layout to use before gdm starts, is there a way to do that with a grub kernel option?03:37
mike_^  wireless config doesn't seem to work03:37
mark__so surely it doesn't make a difference?03:37
evan_tnzr, its a crossover cablet hat goes to my desktop03:37
andaxhou5ton, confirmed, foxnews only plays sound, no picture :(03:37
tnzrevan_: that would work03:37
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hou5tonandax:  so .... what shall we do now?  :-)03:38
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tnzrevan its  pretty easy to setup, the tough part is just setting up iptables nad actually understanding what you are doing.. I couldnt even really begin to tell you here, though Ive used a linux box as a router for quite some time (a gentoo box, no wireless)03:38
MrParanoiathis ubuntu takes some getting use to03:38
w30mark__, what's hyperthreading? I thought that was a Microsoft thing?03:38
evan_profoX, im connected wirelessly with my laptop. now i just want to plug a crossover from my latop to my desktop so i dont have to run a wire to my router...03:38
evan_tnzr, im a n00b, how would i do it?03:38
MrParanoiaw30> hyperthreading is a cpu feature03:38
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mike_Is shockwave doable on ubuntu ?03:38
tnzrevan_: we could try something :) im not a network guru but maybe you could plug it into your laptop and set a route on your laptop or something03:39
bimberi!shockwave03:39
ubotushockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave03:39
andaxhou5ton, i have no idea, foxnews seems to be using flash video which i have no clue about, i could have helped with the mplayer plugin only03:39
VOYAGERit should show up as 2 processors in top03:39
evan_tnzr, how would i go about doing that?03:39
VOYAGERtype top at command line03:39
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ubuntu_the dapper live/install-cd can't do X on my computer (it gets confused by the 4 video cards, i think).  can i still do the old text-mode install?03:39
mike_bimberi: how about you tell me something searching google *didn't*? :-)03:39
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w30mike_, hyper transport is amd's architecture03:39
tehsu!info w32codecs03:39
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper03:39
profoXubuntu_: use alternate install cd03:39
mike_w30: wrong person... :)03:40
tehsu!info w32codec03:40
ubotuPackage w32codec does not exist in dapper03:40
Don_jrOkay, live CD mode is running properly thus far.  disk is done chattering at me and mouse still moves03:40
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tehsuwhat do I use for decoding mp3 and wma03:40
Don_jris there anything I should do before clicking the install button?03:40
w30mike_, sorry03:40
ubuntu_ profoX blarg, out of cdr's, the binary for the old install is no where on the livecd?03:40
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mark__ok it does show two CPU's in GNOME's System Monitor so I guess it is working just don't know why their is a linux-686 and linux-686-smp that both install the same kernels03:40
andaxtehsu, www.mplayerhq.hu or apt-get install mplayer03:40
profoXubuntu_: not that i know - although that would have made it more user friendly..03:40
ubuntu_profoX: ok, well, thank you for the help, guess i better go dig up some more cds03:41
tehsu!info mplayer03:41
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB03:41
bimberimike_: lol, well i know that it really doesn't work very well.  It uses wine and my kids, who are discerning lego.com shockwave game players, have to use windows :|03:41
tehsu:o03:41
profoXmark__: dummy package probably03:41
tehsuit says couldnt find mplayer03:41
mark__profoX, ah ok03:41
VOYAGERmark__, the non smp will install it oh on 1 processor but you should have the smp version if more than 1 processor03:41
mike_bimberi: hm... k, thx.  I'm setting up ubuntu for an elderly fellow (he is Mike, I am Quintin) and wanted shockwave....03:41
klhrevolutionistOkay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?03:41
profoXmark__: u can ignore it could be a transitional package to avoid confusion03:42
tnzrevan_: plug the desktop into your laptop, youll have to specify an internal address on your laptops nic (not wireless).. 192.168.0.1 or something, then set an ip on your PC, set its gateway to your laptops nic (192.168.0.1), then on your laptop, you could forward info coming in on 192.168.0.1 to the wireless card, using hte route command I believe.  If route is incapable of something like that, youd probably definitely have to use iptables03:42
mike_bimberi: got java and flash at least.  so yahoo games works03:42
andaxtehsu, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repositories, then apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer03:42
evan_tnzr, i dont know howl.03:42
tehsuk03:42
profoXVOYAGER: i actually think 686 is smp by default now03:42
mike_How do I get better multimedia support?  eg. divx xvid, wma wmv etc ?03:42
VOYAGERprofoX,  tnx03:42
profoXVOYAGER: so -smp is just transitional package in 686 and k703:42
VOYAGERi had to use the smp on beta testing03:43
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> BTW, i'm using the ipw2200 on my dell600m with no problems03:43
VOYAGERon my dual xeons03:43
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VOYAGERbut not on the p4 with hyperthreading03:43
UncleDDoes anyone know how to make dircolors work properly?03:43
profoXVOYAGER: well i could be wrong..03:43
UncleDI can't seem to get my directory color to change from blue to green03:43
profoXthought i heard it somewhere03:43
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w30mark__, crazy eh? I don't know if the disro needs tweaking for multi-processors either.03:44
UncleDI want to do ls --color and see my directorys as GREEN. Anyone?03:44
VOYAGERprofoX,  could be i gave up after the tests03:44
mark__w30, yep a little confusing03:44
Don_jrokay, the live CD OS is running fine right now.  Is there anything I should do before clicking the install?03:44
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ChuIf I wanted to use the 686 linux kernel instead of the 386, should I just install through synaptic, or do I need to do something with my current kernel as well?03:44
mike_UncleD: directories are supposed to be blue.  are you crazy?!03:44
tehsuandax: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidat03:44
mike_Don_jr: make backups03:44
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Don_jrbackups of what? it's a whiped HD03:44
mark__just I read on the Ubuntu forums it was essential to have the linux-686-smp one marked with the Pentium403:44
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profoXChu: installing linux-686 will pull the  necessary dependancies afaik :)03:45
mike_Don_jr: just run the installer and accept defaults then.03:45
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ChuprofoX: It didn't say it needed any...03:45
UncleDmike_: I have a black background and it's hard for my eyes.03:45
tehsuandax: wont install mplayer03:45
tehsu!info mplayer03:45
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB03:45
tehsuhm03:45
andaxtehsu, check http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html03:45
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tehsuok03:46
profoXChu: oh? could be..03:46
tnzrevan: yeah its a little tricky.. ive never done that so I couldnt really tell you how teh route command would work.. your PC's ip would be something like 192.168.0.100, your laptoips nic would be your PC's gateway (192.168.0.1) and your wireless nic would be your non-wireless laptop nic's gateway, so to speak03:46
Don_jrubotu been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
profoXChu: yoou can always go back to old kernel if it doesnt work03:46
Don_jrlol03:46
tehsumultiverse03:46
lupineroute: route add default gw <router IP>03:46
Don_jrit's a bot...okay I"m an idiot03:46
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks03:46
lupine(as sudo)03:46
UncleDmike_: Help me change my colors!03:46
ChuI'm asking if I need to do anything with my current kernel. I'm not sure how it would like multiple kernels...03:46
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profoXDon_jr: its a bot03:47
wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!03:47
malvanyone know of a good router brand?03:47
Don_jrI clicked install, disk is goin nutz, but noting on the screen yet....03:47
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malvor model, rather?03:47
profoXDon_jr: lol03:47
mike_UncleD: if you can fix my wireless problem, I will help you change your colors.  otherwise, no deal!!03:47
Don_jryeah, I"m a dope...heh03:47
tehsumalv: linksys03:47
ChuBut it doesn't say it needs to remove anything, so I'm a bit confused. :p03:47
malvtehsu: which model?03:47
Don_jrThis is like my 3rd time in IRC...bear with me here03:47
mike_p://pastebin.ca/146994  wireless issues, please to be looking :)03:47
profoXDon_jr: np :) ur not the first one03:47
louis__hello03:47
louis__i am a newbie03:47
louis__does any1 chat with me03:47
kitsuneofdoomlouis__: first thing, don't introduce yourself. Just write down your problem03:48
Don_jrAny reason why I don't have anything on my desktop after clickin the install button?  Disk is going nutz like it's doing something, but nothing to report what's being done..03:48
andaxlouis__, just ask your question and someone will help you sooner or later03:48
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mike_UncleD: I'm waiting.........03:48
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mike_Don_jr: sit and wait patiently.03:48
Don_jrok03:48
UncleDmike_: Whats your wireless problem03:48
louis__ok,thank you very much,i see03:48
mike_UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times reless issues, please to be looking :)03:48
mike_09:42 < profoX> Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one03:48
mike_09:42 < louis__> hello03:48
mike_09:42 < louis__> i am a newbie03:48
louis__:)03:49
wikijeffAnyone?????03:49
mike_UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times , http://pastebin.ca/14699403:49
Don_jrI was told the netgear wg511 wireless card for a laptop is compatible with ubuntu, can anyone here confirm or deny this?03:49
profoXlouis__: welcome.. :)03:49
VitaminGanyone here having problems with the azureus version in the repos?03:49
mike_Don_jr: STFW03:49
tnzrmike: google for Automatix .. it can isntall all the video stuff you need03:49
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Don_jreh?03:49
profoXVitaminG: i use ktorrent because of the java03:49
andaxmike_, www.getautomatix.com03:49
mike_Don_jr: search the FINE web03:49
HAL9000I use frostwire03:50
HAL9000Limewire03:50
VitaminGprofoX: I have Gnome, and I don't really want to install KDE libs03:50
Don_jrit doesn't always produce the results you'd like to get...03:50
Don_jrbut I'll look again03:50
HAL9000and ktorrent03:50
Madpilotmike_, 1. do NOT use "STFW" here. 2. Don't recommend Automatix, it breaks things...03:50
mike_tnzr: mmmmmm ty03:50
VitaminGHAL9000: I'm looking for a bittorrent solution, thogh03:50
tnzrnp03:50
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profoXVitaminG: well.. me too.. atleast kde libs + ktorrent require less memory/cpu than java + azureus :)03:50
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HAL9000what is ur os03:50
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mike_Madpilot: I didn't.  and I don't see any reason to ban acronyms, seriously.03:51
VitaminGHAL9000: Ubuntu Dapper03:51
sethkVitaminG, the libraries aren't that large, it seems foolish not to run something just because it uses kde libraries03:51
BOBSONATORDoes anyone here use kismet/AIRCRACK>03:51
BOBSONATOR?03:51
profoXVitaminG: alot of people use torrent in wine - works perfectly - uses low ram - very fast - verrry advanced03:51
mike_andax:  madpilot say not to use automatix !03:51
HAL9000I use PCLOS03:51
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BOBSONATORPCLOS?03:51
louis__what is ismet/AIRCRACK>03:51
mike_profoX: last I looked it was kind of buggy... but utorrent is best03:51
HAL9000PCLINUXOS03:51
profoXyes automatix breaks things.03:51
VitaminGsethk: I have dial-up, so the KDE libs are a fairly large download for me03:51
BOBSONATORits a wep cracking tool03:51
mike_I have it going now :)03:51
tnzrmike: if you dont want to use it, google for "codec ubuntu" or somethinhg03:51
BOBSONATORlater guys, going to a party.03:51
profoXmike_: torrent is great, too bad its closed source / windows03:52
sethkVitaminG, ok, but if you need them, start the download and go to sleep03:52
louis__web cracking?03:52
tnzryoull find a good page or two regarding isntalling it the manual way03:52
HAL9000Bittornando works well03:52
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wweaselVitaminG: I second the recommendation of utorrent in Wine. I am torrenting somethign in utorrent right now, actually03:52
dalilacome on ps2 mice should work out of the box.... any hints on getting a new ps2 mice hp model m871 working03:52
Madpilotmike_, it's not the acronym itself, it's that "search the f'ing web" isn't really a helpful answer...03:52
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q_a_z_stevehow do I get past the password or something if all I can get is a login prompt?03:53
andaxmike_, if you don't want to use automatix then go to www.mplayerhq.hu and follow the installation instructions, or have a look at http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html  for the quick and easy way to get mplayer. It will play every multimedia content03:53
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profoXlouis__: kismet/aircrack are programs for wardriving or for checking wireless connections and/or breaking the used encryption (wep/wpa) on the networks03:53
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks03:53
wweaselmike_: utorrent in wine is 100% stable. just has an annoying flicker.03:53
mike_Madpilot: It is very helpful when someone is asking something that is answered better and faster by a google search than by someone explaining things to them03:53
mike_wweasel: ok.  last time I futzed about on utorrent forums it said it had issues. :)03:53
profoXwweasel: yea and its ugly as hell - for the rest it works fine03:53
Madpilotandax, recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats over autobreakix or random Google searches03:53
mike_who cares if it's ugly03:54
profoXmike_: i do - its part of my desktop03:54
profoX:)03:54
wweaselmike_: Alot of people.03:54
VitaminGwell thanks, I'll try a few of these ideas03:54
louis__profox,you are a good person03:54
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toddobryanI'm trying to set up nfs for my computer lab at school. (I teach.) I'm going through the NFS How-To, and it looks like Ubuntu isn't paying attention to hosts.deny or hosts.allow.03:54
toddobryanAm I missing something?03:54
mike_profoX: you do ... what? :)03:54
profoXlouis__: lol -- thank you very much03:54
wweaselmike_: he cares if it's ugly03:54
profoXmike_: i do care about it being pretty03:54
blindoh jeez.03:54
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HAL9000Whats everyones favorite OS03:54
wweaselprofoX: Is there any way to get it to show an icon on the taskbar?03:55
profoXwweasel: its been a while since i last ran it -- i use ktorrent now03:55
SoCalHAL9000, Ubuntu03:55
wweaselprofoX: How is KTorrent, compared to uTorrent?03:55
fangoriousis there a way to detect a docking station on a laptop?03:55
SoCalor FreeBSD03:55
profoXwweasel: it's "okay"03:55
mike_blind: eat me03:55
mark__HAL9000, xubuntu03:55
mike_HAL9000: mac or win for desktop, freebsd or gentoo for server03:55
mike_or solaris03:56
blindmike_: follow the coc please :] 03:56
mike_solaris is tasty03:56
louis__show an icon on the taskbar?you mean shortcut?03:56
profoXwweasel: ktorrent is almost as advanced and has a built-in torrent search engine that i like03:56
louis__?03:56
mike_blind: you started it ! >:P03:56
profoXwweasel: and it can be extended by plugin03:56
HAL9000PCLINUXOS here03:56
blindmike_: I didn't start anything.03:56
VOYAGERfangorious, im having mixed results here with compaq m-70003:56
wweaselprofoX: utorrent has a built in torrent search engine too. or, search bar rather.03:56
mike_shrug03:56
wweaselprofoX: but i'm gonna check out KTorrent.03:56
MadpilotFolks, non-tech-support chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...03:56
mark__I want to give FreeBSD a go03:56
profoXwweasel: yea i know but i like ktorrents thing better :) search thing03:56
sethkblind hasn't said anything for quite some time03:56
Don_jrOkay I don't see it on the web page.  can anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card is or is not compatible with Ubuntu?03:56
profoXit has a built in HTML browser03:56
sethkmark__, freebsd is an interesting o/s03:56
SoCalFreeBSDis nice...especially for a server03:56
MrParanoiais sysv-rc-conf still valid in ubuntu 6.06.1?03:56
SoCalAs for desktop, I like Ubuntu03:57
SoCaleverything works03:57
mark__also might give Fedora a go one day03:57
MadpilotDon_jr, routers shouldn't care what's connecting to them...03:57
MrParanoiaor is there a different config tool available?03:57
Don_jrit's not a router, it's the card that I want to put in my laptop03:57
SoCalI don't care for Fedora...I dunno why...jut me03:57
louis__SocCal,i like ubuntu too03:57
SoCaljust me03:57
toddobryanAnybody know anything about setting up NFS?03:57
sethkDon_jr, I haven't tried that particular card.03:57
SoCallol louis__03:57
MrParanoiaapt-get won't install it03:57
profoXlouis__: no he meant something else ;)03:57
andaxDon_jr, confirmed, it will be autodetected and will work03:57
profoXlouis__: about the icon on taskbar03:57
sethkDon_jr, the card is not important, what you need to know is the chipset03:57
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fangoriousis there a way to configure gdm to start X with a specific ServerLayout?03:58
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sethkDon_jr, then we can tell you whether there is support for it.03:58
Don_jrThanx Andax, I was told it should but wanted to double check.03:58
louis__i know,i am a new hand,so sorry03:58
SoCalwell...I'm out for now...see everyone another time03:58
profoXlouis__: np03:58
profoXSoCal: later03:58
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mike_I can't install w32codecs ??03:58
mike_it says it's a package that refers to anothe rpackage or something03:58
Don_jrAs long as I can get my wireless card to work with ubuntu I'll be in good shape.  I"m goign to let it finish installing.03:59
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mike_Is there any Linux desktop OS that support flash, wmv, real media, quicktime etc etc out of the box ?03:59
profoXwweasel: you might like torrent better though03:59
VOYAGERMrParanoia,  i got my info up on http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/03:59
mike_Don_jr: good luck!!03:59
distantbody"mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"03:59
toddobryanOK. I'm going to have to use guilt...It's 10:00pm local time, and I'm sitting here in my classroom *hoping* that somebody knows something about nfs.04:00
profoXwweasel: ktorrent has a few advantages and looks better imo but torrent seems to be faster (finds more peers?)04:00
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andaxtoddobryan, what's the question about nfs?04:00
toddobryanmike_: It would be impossible to support out of the box. They'd have to pay licensing fees probably. But you can download what you want.04:00
mike_distantbody: right.  apt-get install doesn't install it04:00
VOYAGERhttp://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/04:00
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toddobryanSo, I'm going through the NFS HowTo on nfs.sourceforge.net.04:01
wweaselprofox: interesting, thanks04:01
mike_toddobryan: mhm.  there should be a script on desktop that says "click here to install a bunch of crap you probably want to have"04:01
distantbody"mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"      Use "ADD/REMOVE" to install mplayer, it plays win3204:01
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profoXwweasel: it has something to do with - i forgot how it's called, something that azureus has too ;) but ktorrent doesn't04:01
mark__http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper04:01
profoXsome technology to find more peers04:01
tnzrmike: you ahve to add some new repositories, then do some apt-getting to install the multimedia stuff04:01
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toddobryanIt says to check security for portmap. I did, and hosts.deny and hosts.allow seem not to have any effect.04:01
andaxprofoX, DHT?04:01
profoXtnzr: yea but cipherfunk is down afaik04:01
profoXandax: yea thats it..04:02
mike_tnzr: this is all stuff a desktop user has ZERO interest in doing :(04:02
profoXandax: i could be wrong about what exactly it is though?04:02
tnzrmike: thats where you come in :)04:02
mike_Thought maybe Desktop LInux was ready.  sadly it's not04:02
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tnzrthat clearly depends on what you mean by "ready :D04:02
Madpilotmike_, the reasons Linux can't support Flash/mp3/etc/etc is legal, not technical.04:03
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Madpilotcan't support it out of the box, that is04:03
mike_Madpilot: Right.  There should stil lbe an auto-install script04:03
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NemesisUKmike_, it mostly is, just takes patience and little bit of research04:03
profoXlegal problems are the biggest problem for linux04:03
tnzrmike: there pretty much is04:03
Madpilotmike_, there are legal problems w/ an autoinstall script too...04:03
mark__mike_ their is automatix but it is dodgy04:03
mike_tnzr: If everyone who wants to use linux needs their own personal sysadmin, it's doomed.  I cost $30/hr minimum.04:03
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:04
mike_NemesisUK: AGAIN, Joe ServicePack doesn't care :)  they just want it to work04:04
Don_jrAny aproximates on how long the install could take?04:04
dalilatotally lost on getting ps/2 mouse working plse help04:04
Madpilotmike_, you just need a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, it's not that complex04:04
distantbodymike_ select the "applications" menu then "Add/remove" then search for "mplayer"04:04
mike_Madpilot: It's complex for Joe Servicepack04:04
profoXmike_: then linux is not for joe servicepack04:04
tnzrmike: well I like to think that linux isnt really geared for people who require a sysadmin in order to get it up and running04:04
mike_distantbody: doing apt-get mplayer now.  hopefully that is gmplayer04:04
NemesisUKmike_, I just want it to work, but linux is like life and doesnt work that way04:04
Madpilotmike_, not from what I've seen, with friends I've converted to Ubuntu...04:04
tnzrif one cant see why using linux is advantageous, then one prolly should just stick to windows04:04
mike_Madpilot: still not ready.  until total idiot can install everything themselves it's not ready04:04
dalilaits a [s/2 optical04:05
ali1234mike_: anybody who has a computer connected to the internet needs a sysadmin. OS doesn't matter04:05
mike_profoX: "linux for human beings"04:05
tnzrmike: its not linux's fault that windows made idiots out of the computer using population :)04:05
profoXMadpilot: amen.. i converted total "noobs" to ubuntu -- and they have their own questions and problems -- but everything is going smooth now04:05
Madpilotmike_, ever done a from-bare-metal install of Windows? You've got to do far more crap to get a usable OS there than you do with a from-bare install of Ubuntu...04:05
sethkmike_, there are enough human beings who can handle ubuntu04:05
mike_ali1234: not really.  mac users are fine.  windoze users can get by, albeit with lots of spyware and viruses04:05
andaxtnzr, lol agree on that :))04:05
tnzrMadpilot: hear hear04:05
sethkmike_, ok, then let those users use windows04:05
JackMacOKCi just installed the realplayer .bin installer from real.com. how can i uninstall it properly?04:05
mike_Madpilot: not with winxp04:05
sethkmike_, linux is not instead of windows, it's better than windows04:05
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Don_jrSo the spyware and virus problems that windows has is not as great on the *nix systems?04:06
mike_sethk: add more to chat than just that please04:06
ISOLATEDViRuShey, apparently xchat was deleted when I updated the software, how do I get it back and is mIRC available for ubuntu?04:06
sethkmike_, you're in charge, now?04:06
mike_sethk: depends on what "better" means.  win provides better desktop experience04:06
profoXMadpilot: i don't agree completely.. it depends what you need/seek in an OS04:06
sethkISOLATEDViRuS, that's odd, nothing is deleted04:06
wweaselYeah, honestly, I have more trouble converting users who know somewhat what they're doing than complete noobs. Complete noobs, you tell them "click here for internet, when it asks you to install updates say yes, click here to shutdown" and they're happy04:06
sethkmike_, then use windows04:06
distantbodyJackMacOKC : Reinstall Ubuntu;)04:06
profoXif you want to make your linux do everything windows does -- you'll have to change alot04:06
mike_sethk: I don't want my time wasted.  actually say something if you're going to chat to me :)04:06
Madpilotmike_, yes, with WinXP. I've done several from-bare installs of XP, it's unusable by default. No word processor, a crap browser, no codecs...04:06
tnzrmike: use a Mac, it kills windows in "desktop usability"04:06
h00tcan someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it04:06
profoXthe reverse is true too04:06
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sethkmike_, I decide what I want to say, not you.04:06
mike_Madpilot: yes.  but installing these thins is simpler04:06
wweaselmike_: stop being an ass.04:06
tehsutnzr: very true04:06
profoXwweasel: amen04:06
mike_sethk: ok, you're ignored now04:07
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profoXwweasel: to the converting :)04:07
JackMacOKCdistantbody: joking aside04:07
sethkmike_, I'm crushed.  :)04:07
tehsumike_: go away04:07
Madpilotmike_, not really, and you've got to isntall far MORE stuff to get XP useable04:07
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tehsu^^ what he said04:07
sethksomebody ban this guy?  :)04:07
ISOLATEDViRuSsec im checking it04:07
mark__Madpilot, so true04:07
wweaselI second what madpilot said.04:07
tnzrnot only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need04:07
Madpilotsethk, he's almost earned that...04:07
mike_tehsu: blow me04:07
profoXsethk: not yet..04:07
xepherMadpilot got it on the spot.04:07
tehsumike_: only windows users would like to do that04:07
Don_jrI won't have the problems with spyware and virus's in unix for browsing around?  That sounds nice.04:07
sethkMadpilot, that last comment?04:07
h00tcan someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it04:08
Madpilotmike_, last warning. Be civil, or be banned.04:08
mike_Madpilot: true, but it is easier to do on windows than linux, for most things04:08
profoXmike_: I suggest you be a little more friendly -- unless you really want to get banned here -- you're really not helping here04:08
mike_Madpilot: I'm being plenty "CIVIL"04:08
Don_jrI just want to try it out.  Been using windows for ever and I"m tired of the microsoft monopoly.04:08
sethkh00t, do you know the process name?04:08
wweaselDon_jr: Nope, no spyware, nothing on your computer that you didn't want.04:08
distantbody"not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need" NLITE FTW!04:08
h00tno idea04:08
neil__I would like to migrate a windows app to Linux, it appears the app is using MSSQL7 for it data backend, can MSSQL7 databases be read by Linux directly?04:08
sethkh00t, do ps aux, see what name looks likely.  Hopefully you'll be able to spot it.04:08
h00ti did "ps -l" but it won't show04:08
Don_jrThat's great.  I"m liking this more and more.  And Iv'e heard it's fairly simple to run a web server on a unix system aswell?04:08
sethkh00t, not ps -l.   ps aux04:08
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Don_jrapache I believe was the name used?04:09
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wweaseldon_jr: there are plenty of good tutorials on setting up apache, yes04:09
MiekDon_jr: i prefer lighttpd :p04:09
profoXh00t: also try: sudo killall process-name04:09
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profoXh00t: sudo killall emule04:09
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profoXfor instance04:09
mike_Don_jr: it's simple to do that on any system, but you'd be well advised to use a seperate computer for your server.  you don't want personal inof etc on a globally accessible machine04:09
sethkDon_jr, yes, apache is the most popular web server04:09
sethkDon_jr, there are others, as well04:09
MadpilotDon_jr, you can run Apache easily on Ubuntu - it's a complex app, though04:09
sethkDon_jr, I use apache, have for years04:09
mike_Don_jr: I'd recommned "abyss" web server04:09
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Don_jrOnly thing that get's me is how much am I going to have to learn to program in c or any other language to make things work.04:09
tnzrDon_jr: none.04:10
sethkDon_jr, no you don't04:10
mike_Don_jr: you don't have to be able to program04:10
sethkDon_jr, what gave you that idea?04:10
Don_jrno more compiling to add new programs?04:10
tnzrDon_jr: but if you know any programming, you can have a lot of fun in linux04:10
neil__Don_jr: I beleave there are more apache web-servers on the internet than all the others combined.04:10
mike_Don_jr: you do need to be able to use a lot of logic and reasoning skills.04:10
h00tthank you it worked04:10
sethkDon_jr, I encourage you to learn, because you can save work, but it is optional04:10
Sarra_I wanna learn C04:10
h00tcan i do that in debian04:10
cfeddeSarra_: go for it!04:10
MadpilotDon_jr, there's 18000 packages in Ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile. Besides, you don't need to know programming to compile, actually.04:10
mike_Don_jr: are you sure you're not trolling04:10
tehsutheme04:10
sethkSarra_, C is actually an easy language, don't be aafraid of it.04:10
tehsuer04:10
distantbodyI'm running windows on Ubuntu right now, with a second instance of Ubuntu axting as a server, Thanks to VMWare:)04:10
Don_jrreading books about linux/unix the cshel, sshell and compiling things.....04:10
tnzrDon_jr: you may have to compile a program here and there but its not difficult04:10
profoXDon_jr: to get Really into linux, a bit of bash knowledge might help ;) but for the rest you don't have to learn anything04:10
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wweaselOpinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?04:10
Don_jrtrolling?04:11
xepher...04:11
sethkDon_jr, don't use cshell, it's old and awful04:11
tnzryou dont have to know how to program to build a package, usually you just have to type "make; make install"04:11
Don_jrbash?04:11
profoXmike_: are You sure you're not trolling :)04:11
sethkDon_jr, bash is good, and zsh is even better04:11
nich0sHey allz, I would just like to say Ubuntu rocks my face off...04:11
Madpilotubotu, tell Don_jr about cli04:11
nich0sThat is all.04:11
wweaselDon_jr: Bash is the command line in Linux04:11
sethkanybody here who uses ignore is trolling by definition04:11
profoXDon_jr: bash is the language that you write on the "terminal"04:11
mike_profoX: uh, no.  no idea how you would even think that.04:11
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profoXmike_: just asking ;)04:11
JackMacOKCnich0s: well how do you see then?04:11
mike_is there a way to do like the hardware configuration that happens at install again?04:11
sethkDon_jr, bash is one option to use as the command line in ubuntu04:11
mike_profoX: heh, ok :-)04:11
Don_jrsimilar to dos?  kinda like ls for list files, I read that somewhere04:11
Sarra_I'm learning Java, so C should be easy to pick up in the future04:12
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sethkwweasel, it's inaccurate to say bash is "the command line".  just one option04:12
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MadpilotDon_jr, similar - see the PM that ubotu just sent you04:12
profoXDon_jr: yes, but bash is way better and more complex04:12
tnzrDon_jr: ls is a command, bash is the shell in which you execute that command04:12
sethkDon_jr, I run zsh in windows because the windows shell is so awful, but I suppose there are similarities04:12
wweaselsethk: yep, an oversimplification.04:12
Don_jroh sheesh, didn't even notice it.04:12
tnzrDon_jr: kind of like how COmmand.com is the shell you execute the "dir" command in at a dos promp04:12
tnzrt04:12
distantbodyBourne-Again SHell  a pun (Bourne again / born again) on the Bourne shell (sh) - an early, important Unix shell written by Stephen Bourne and distributed with Version 7 Unix, circa 1978. bash was created in 1987 by Brian Fox. In 1990, Chet Ramey became the primary maintainer.04:12
sethkwweasel, zsh is so good, and many people don't even know they have choices.04:12
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mike_sethk: ooh.  interesting.  I use cygwin install to get a usable shell....04:12
mike_so no one has a clue about my wireless problem ?04:13
sethkmike_, cygwin shell is bash, but you can also run it with zsh04:13
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wweaselnope04:13
tnzrmike: whats the wireless problem?04:13
Don_jrthanx for that link. I'll be bookmarking that04:13
tnzrsorry I didnt see you talking about it earlier04:13
Don_jrtnzr thanx, that makes sense04:13
wweaselOpinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?04:13
VOYAGERmike_, i tried you wouldnt listen04:13
tnzrDon_jr: no prob04:13
nich0sJackMacOKC, It doesn't rick my head off, nor my tendons, muscles, or eyes,04:13
nich0sJackMacOKC, Just the flesh making up my face.04:13
louis__how can i get a process's pid? for example,i run xmms,then how can i know the process used by xmms and the pid.use command top?04:13
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JackMacOKCnich0s: :)04:13
tnzrlouis__: ps -ef |grep xmms04:13
sethklouis__, ps aux | grep xmms04:13
wweaselsethk: What do you use to rip CDs?04:14
Don_jrOkay, being a windows idget all my life.  How will learning to program in bash, c, what ever language is needed make things better for me?04:14
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profoXlouis__: ps -e|grep xmms04:14
sethkwweasel, I still use cdrecord and utilities to create the image04:14
profoXok enough options to choose from04:14
wweaselDon_jr: It's not necessary to learn how to program in bash or anything.04:14
Sarra_Unless you're creating your own apps, it won't help at all Don_jr04:14
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JackMacOKCDon_jr: becuase then you can effectively compile and repair things, everything04:14
louis__thanks very much:)04:14
Don_jrok04:14
sethkps has many options because both the bsd and system V syntax is supported04:14
nich0sJackMacOKC, So gimme stuff to play with that will make me love it even more.  I will even take interesting reading. :P04:14
tnzrDon_jr: you only need to know how to program in bash if you want to write scripts to automate certain tasks04:14
Don_jrso it's more for trouble shooting than anything at this point?04:14
madman-i installed freepops but i dont know if it's started or running. how can i know these things ?04:14
MadpilotDon_jr, small bash scripts can be helpful for stuff you do repeatedly, but really, you can use Ubuntu without learning anything beyond very basic command line stuff04:14
Sarra_What the heck04:15
mike_VOYAGER: You said "login as sudo".  I was promoptly informed by twelve other people in channel that you were full of crap04:15
Namelesshelp, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?04:15
distantbodyDon_jr You need to learn how to COMMAND you computer, not program for it...04:15
Don_jrgreat04:15
JackMacOKCnich0s: sudo apt-get install streamtuner04:15
sethkmadman-, ps aux will show you running processes04:15
Sarra_I unplugged my laptop, and now I have a power meter? Why didn't this ever show up before?04:15
Don_jrokay04:15
madman-looking04:15
tnzrDon_jr: its not for troubleshooting but it can be.. you can do all sorts of stuff with bash once you get good at it.. but its not a requirement.  lots of weathered *nix users dont know the first thing about shell scripting04:15
profoXmike_: code of conduct please04:15
VOYAGERif you want to change those settings you must be as ubuntus root which is su04:15
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699404:15
tnzrmike: what are you trying to do and what kind of card is it04:15
sethkshell scripting saves a lot of work, frequently, but you can survive easily without it.04:15
Namelesshelp :\04:16
wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!04:16
mike_tnzr: http://pastbin.ca/146994 that is all the details you should need04:16
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tnzrVOYAGER: ubuntus' root user is "root" .. su is a command used to become another user (usually to become root)04:16
mark__ack04:16
JackMacOKCNameless: which key?04:16
Don_jrOkay so I could tell it that when I open firefox it automatically logs me into gaim at the same time?  things like that?04:16
tnzrmike: looking04:16
louis__yeah,i got it!thanks!04:16
mike_VOYAGER: what other guy say.  see above04:16
VOYAGERtnzr if your so smart help him04:16
Namelessthe key for Xgl04:16
distantbodySarra System>preferences>power management04:16
tnzrVOYAGER: im trying :)04:16
VOYAGERdont critisize04:16
tnzri didnt criticize, I just informed you so you wouldnt go around thinking the wrong thing :)04:17
nich0sJackMacOKC, Wassat?04:17
MadpilotDon_jr, you could create a little script that starts both firefox & gaim when you run it, yeah04:17
VOYAGERhe wont change it as the user04:17
Don_jrOkay, that's cool.  Deffinatly couldn't do that with any ease in windows XP04:17
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JackMacOKCnich0s: its the command to install the package streamtuner. in a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install streamtuner' to install the streamtuner program04:17
madman-sethk: ok found it. it's running. very nice, thank you04:17
mike_Uhm, unless I miss something, there is no root user in ubuntu.  the first user acct created has full sudo rights though.04:17
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erikahi :)04:17
tehsumike_: bad card04:18
tnzrmike: is your card eth1? eth0?04:18
mike_tehsu: No, it works in another machine.04:18
profoXerika: hi04:18
mike_tnzr: wlan004:18
distantbodyFor those who need to learn how to do simple linux commands, I highly recommend Tuxfiles.com04:18
tnzrmike: id root04:18
tehsumike_: not supported very well04:18
profoXmike_: there is aroot user but it has no password by default iirc04:18
tehsumike_: and root is in ubuntu04:18
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erikaty profoX04:18
mike_tehsu: google sez it works04:18
tehsumike_: driver04:18
Namelesssuper key =  left win key04:18
tnzrmike: iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed04:18
tnzrthat will take it out of ad-hoc mode04:18
mike_profoX: ok, my point is, there is no 'su' user or whatever VOYAGER was tellin gme04:18
Namelesshow i can enable it ?04:18
sethktehsu, that's correct, su in ubuntu is the same as all other distros04:18
mike_tnzr: ty, I think that what I need.... I can't get it out of adhoc, I try now04:18
madman-distantbody: thank you04:18
tehsusethk: yup04:19
sethkand there _is_ a root password for all the install options except desktop04:19
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tnzrmike_: is your wireless router running dhcp?04:19
nich0sJackMacOKC, I got that much, but what is the "streamtuner" program?04:19
MorpseI04:19
tnzri use root even as desktop04:19
mike_tnzr: yes04:19
JackMacOKCnich0s: you said you wanted to see something cool. so install it and see04:19
mike_tnzr: laptop right by this one use wifi now04:19
tehsusudo passwd root set new passwd and then u can become root04:19
sethkthat is, the root password is set during install for other installation types04:19
madman-the madman runs over to tuxfiles.com04:19
distantbodyyou don't need to useapt-get, Synaptic is much better for the command line-disinclined04:19
tnzrmike: ok what kind of encryption is your router using?04:19
MorpseI've got a gateway tablet pc, is there a driver to get the pen working?04:19
tnzrmike: WEP/WPA2/etc?04:19
Nameless(04:16) <JackMacOKC> Nameless: which key? <--- left win key04:20
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sethkMorpse, there are a couple of tablet drivers.  do you know the internals?04:20
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mike_tnzr: can you see the private messagee ?04:20
tnzryes04:20
distantbodytnzr, oblig YOUR CRAZY comment...;)04:20
mike_ok04:20
sethkMorpse, analogous to knowing that a touchpad is a particular type04:20
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mike_I'm rebooting mike's machine04:20
mike_usb light not on04:20
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tnzrdistantbody: hehe how come :)04:20
tnzrok04:20
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wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!04:21
MorpseXP calls it a Finepoint inovations tablet04:21
birdfishSo how is the new Ubuntu Server 6.0 LTS?04:21
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birdfishI'm at college and haven't been home in a while to install and test it out :(04:21
mcquaidhello, i just put a new drive and created about a 70 gig partition (ext3) but its already reporting some used04:21
distantbodytnzr: are you SERIOUS!?04:21
tnzrdistantbody: about what?04:21
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mcquaid/dev/hdd2              71G  129M   68G   1% /mnt/newlin04:21
sethkbirdfish, it's fine, but I recommend installing breezy, and waiting a few weeks more for dapper04:21
nickv111Hello. I'm using multiverse, and I'm wondering, where is sun-java5-bin?04:21
nomasteryodamcquaid, that is the file system04:21
nickv111apt-cache search doesn't turn it up04:21
JackMacOKCNameless: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard04:21
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forbidden_fruithow do i find out the amount of free space on a drive in ubuntu? is there a partition manager?04:21
nomasteryodasome will be used04:21
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mcquaidnothing is there, and how does 129m make a 3 gig difference04:22
Jamminpotatoi <3 ubuntu04:22
birdfishsethk: so 6.06 is Dapper then?04:22
nomasteryodaforbidden_fruit, df -Th04:22
madman-distantbody: just a little help, thats all a person needs. very nice site @_@04:22
sethkbirdfish, right04:22
nomasteryodasimple command04:22
NamelessJackMacOKC: i don't use Gnome, i use Xfce404:22
distantbodytnzr: Do you really login as root by default?...04:22
Nameless:\04:22
erikaI haven't been here in a couple of months... switched from winders to ubuntu at the intro of breezy... been banging my hammer on my PC for a while now. Most things work... thought I'd pop in and ask a few ? :)04:22
forbidden_fruitnomasteryoda: that command?04:22
forbidden_fruitty04:22
profoXbirdfish: yes 6.06 is dapper drake04:22
birdfishsethk: Upgrading from Breezy server to Dapper shouldn't be a problem later, should it?04:22
nomasteryodaya04:22
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tnzrdistantbody: yeah or I su - to root whenever I need to do root things04:22
mcquaidnomasteryoda, doesn't something look wrong there in it reported 129 used yet 71G vs 68G?04:22
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sethkbirdfish, it's easy to upgrade04:22
JackMacOKCNameless: sorry, then i cant help you there. you should specify these things when asking your question, fyi.04:22
profoXbirdfish: it shouldn't, but you never know (certain hardware problems etc)04:22
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quintinnickv111: search for 'jre' in synaptic and you'll find it04:23
birdfishsethk: I was just looking forward to having an automated LAMP installer =)04:23
birdfishWhich brings me to my next point04:23
forbidden_fruitty nomasteryoda04:23
forbidden_fruit:)04:23
sethkbirdfish, you can install that version if you don't mind a few minor glitches04:23
nickv111quintin: I did. I can't install it04:23
birdfishIs the automated LAMP installer packaged with Apache 1.3 or 2.2?04:23
tnzrdistantbody: i dont like having to type sudo in front of every command I do as root.. im too fast, I need my own root shell04:23
supernixI thought about installing ubuntu but when I went to try and install ubuntu-desktop it gave a warning about breaking but did not say what it would break04:23
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nickv111quintin: It doesn't seem to exist in my collection of packages, or apt would turn it up04:23
sethkbirdfish, hash to be v204:23
Nameless(04:15) <Nameless> help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?04:23
Namelessi have specified04:23
Nameless:\04:23
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sethksupernix, give us the exact message, we'll tell you what it means04:24
supernixoh I also am the proud owner of the Official Ubuntu Linux book04:24
lupine_85question about ubuntu's various kernels04:24
distantbodytnzr: Yeah, well everyone needs to use "superuser do" (sudo)04:24
tnzrdistantbody: I dont run X as root and sit around as root when im just computing in general :)04:24
Don_jrso how much work will I be doing out of the shell instead of in the desktop like view?04:24
birdfishsethk: hash (meaning open up the package config and manually set?)04:24
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Morpseis the book worth getting if you already have the hacks book?04:24
Don_jrand what is 'X'?04:24
MadpilotDon_jr, not much, unless you break something ;)04:24
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supernixsethk: it does not give any message just said break how can I find out what the message might be ?04:24
tehsuWhats a good desktop monitor?04:24
sethkbirdfish, was that pointed at me?04:24
lupine_85would a kernel built for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?04:24
MadpilotDon_jr, X is the desktop/graphical server04:24
birdfishsethk: I'm coming from BSD land =P It's been a really long time since I've installed ubuntu =)04:24
mcquaidso ext3 always takes 129 megs?04:24
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birdfishsethk: yep.  I just wanted to clarify what you meant by "hash"04:25
mcquaidseems like a lot for the filesystem04:25
sethksupernix, it can't just say break things, it has to say something about what you are doing.  Do you mean during the boot loader installation?04:25
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:25
Don_jrserver? so X is what i"m looking at during this ubuntu install, that looks similar to windows?04:25
sethkbirdfish, sorry, typo, I meant has to be v204:25
profoXmcquaid: i think it reserves a percentage of your available space instead of a solid value..04:25
distantbodytnzr: Oh, I thought thats what you meant...:)04:25
sethkDon_jr, well, similar is in the eye of the beholder, but it's the gui04:25
MadpilotDon_jr, "the X server" is the base of the whole graphical enviroment in Linux, more or less.04:25
tnzrhehe04:25
birdfishsethk: Ah, sweet, thanks.  And also, if you don't mind... What are a couple of the biggest bugs I might find in Dapper?04:25
sethkDon_jr, X is the gui, gnome (or kde) (typically) is the desktop04:25
profoXmcquaid: you can override it but thats not advised04:25
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supernixnah04:26
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sethkbirdfish, there seem to be cases where the install doesn't complete.  very few, but a few.04:26
MorpseDon_jr, think of linux more windows 3.1 and dos. X is the gui that runs over the consol04:26
supernixI was running adept and trying to do an install while running Kubuntu04:26
mcquaidprofoX, i guess i'll leave it, but what does it reserve it for?04:26
Don_jrokay, sorry to be a dope, what's the difference between 'gnome' and the 'gui' it's self.04:26
birdfishsethk: Hm... Sounds like Windows =P04:26
Don_jrso gnome it's self is running X and X is what I see?04:26
tnzrgnome is a window manager for X04:26
sethkDon_jr, gui is a generic term, graphical user interface04:26
birdfishI'm excited! :D04:26
VOYAGERbirdfish, ive had 2 fail to a command line because of video04:26
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distantbodyGUI = graphical user interface04:26
tnzrDon_jr: if you installed X without a window manager, youd start it up and see a black/white crosshatched pattern as the background with a little "x" mouse cursor04:27
Morpsegnome is the windows manager, gnome runs on top of X to give buttons and window borders and the like04:27
sethkDon_jr, a desktop is software that runs on a gui04:27
profoXmcquaid: i'm not sure how it works - you should google on it - or check the man page04:27
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distantbodyGUI is a very generic term...04:27
tnzrDon_jr: then you run something like gnome or KDE or Fluxbox or what have you, and suddenly it becomes pretty04:27
erikaI got a letter from the ntsb today informing me that somebody stole a laptop that had the names, ss numbers and a whole lot of "identity theft applicable" data on it. That got me to wondering... is Linux still as secure as it was last november?04:27
lupine_85erm, rephrasing... would a kernel *module* compiled with linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 run under linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 ?04:27
mcquaidbtw, this disks-admin utility, I enabled the partitions there.  It doesn't seem to touch fstab, does this survive a reboot?04:27
sethkDon_jr, in windows that distinction doesn't exist, unix is more more intelligently layered04:27
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Don_jroh wow, I got lot's to learn.04:27
sethks/more more/much more/04:27
birdfishVOYAGER: so you issued a graphical command without having X installed?  Or you didn't install X and issuing any command crashes the system anyhow?04:27
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sethkcan't type04:27
mcquaidit would be nice if there is a gui means of permenately enabled partitions without hacking fstab04:27
profoXmcquaid: check your pm04:27
Madpiloterika, I don't get the connection between a stolen NTSB laptop & Ubuntu?04:27
Don_jrso X is the shell of the 'gui' per se?04:27
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profoXoh damn im not logged in04:28
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MadpilotDon_jr, more or less04:28
sethkbirdfish, I think he just means that a couple of apps didn't run for him04:28
VOYAGERx wouldnt install because of video failed to cli04:28
tnzrmcquaid: theyre out there IT hink.. ive seen gui fdisk managers & stuff04:28
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Don_jrok04:28
mcquaidprofoX, pm?04:28
mcquaiddo you mean parted?04:28
sethkmcquaid, pm is private message04:28
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sethkmcquaid, an IRC thing04:28
nickv111For some reason, sun-java5-bin doesn't exist in my repository04:28
profoX`mcquaid: no i mean private message in irc -- hold on04:28
nickv111s/repository/apt cache04:28
sethknickv111, doesn't exist in mine, either04:28
mcquaidthats what I thought at first, but i have no pm04:28
birdfishVOYAGER: Ah, I see.  I'm pretty sure that I won't be running X from the start anyhow, but I would hope something that major would be patched quickly anyhow04:29
distantbodymcquaid: It can all be found under System>administator04:29
nickv111sethk: I'm in multiverse04:29
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nickv111sethk: Know why that would be?04:29
BSG75hi how do I make ndiswrapper work with ubuntu please? it is already installed and the windows driver is already installed .. however ubuntu thinks it has setup my nic correctly under eth0 .. I have done modprobe ndiswrapper .. but I don't see wlan004:29
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VOYAGERbirdfish,  ok04:29
wweaselHelp please? I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. (yes, the volume is on, yes sound works in other programs)04:29
sethknickv111, I downloaded from sun.java.com instead of using the package manager.  the package does exist; I don't know the repository04:29
sethknickv111, there are things not in the "official" repositories04:29
Don_jrsheesh this looks confusing...what's with the dw--w--d-d in front of the file names?04:29
sethkDon_jr, d means directory04:29
birdfishI've just noted the vibrant green warning about a patch fix (error).  Sounds like they might have fixed part of the X system earlier today.04:30
sethkDon_jr, the privileges are for owner, group, and other04:30
sethkDon_jr, r is read priv, w is write priv, x is execute priv04:30
VOYAGERyeah04:30
erikaMadpilot... I'm a professional pilot. I assume the reason they contacted me was that the laptop belonged to an faa employee that lost his/her laptop. The laptop was florida pilot specific.04:30
mcquaidso is there a way gui of keeping a partition mounted (survive reboots) without mucking with fstab?  not sure if disks-admin does this04:30
distantbody Don_jr: GOTO http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html04:30
MadpilotDon_jr, read/write/execute privs - basically, who is allowed to do what w/ the file04:30
profoX`mcphail: so 5%  is reserved by default to avoid fragmentation and for processes like syslogd to keep functioning and to have space reserved for su04:30
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louis__tell you a piece good news,i have just received a parcel of ubuntu live cd Version 6.06 sent by from the Netherlands,hoho,hehe04:30
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Don_jrwow....this is gonna get fun04:30
taychouri-aWADDUPP!! I need an mp3 decoder04:30
ISOLATEDViRuSWHATUP!!04:31
taychouri-alol04:31
nich0staychouri-a, I bet you do :P04:31
valehru_Is there any firewall in ubuntu that gives you notifications of what is trying to access the network, and you can deny or approve it?  Much along the lines of Zone Alarm in windows (yuck)04:31
taychouri-a;P04:31
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Madpiloterika, well, unless  your Ubuntu system password was on that laptop, it's not going to affect your Ubuntu install - or anyone else's04:31
nalphaguys there is flash creator like macromedia flash in windows for ubuntu?04:31
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ISOLATEDViRuSSOUP'D!04:31
birdfishlouis__: That's awesome.  I'm just now setting up an account so that I can have a bunch of cd's shipped to me.  I'm going to hand them out around campus =)04:31
taychouri-anich0s: so fo real i need one04:31
erikaMadpilot... you fly?04:31
nickv111sethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/sun-java5-bin04:31
lupine_85nobody know? Or am I just going to have to test it? :(04:31
sethknickv111, thanks04:31
TonrenHow do I find out which user a process is running as?04:31
nickv111sethk: It's in the repository. It's just not in my cache for some odd reason04:31
profoX`lupine_85: what?04:31
sethknickv111, Might need to update04:32
lupine_85"would a kernel modulebuilt for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?"04:32
Madpiloterika, yeah, PPL, working on CPL04:32
sethknickv111, the cache, not your system04:32
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BSG75anyone here knows how to get ndiswrapper to work ?04:32
profoX`lupine_85: no - i don't think so04:32
nickv111sethk: I've already done "apt-get update" multiple times04:32
louis__good idea!04:32
louis__birdfish04:32
eternalswdnickv111, do you have security updates in your sources?04:32
nickv111eternalswd: No.04:32
lupine_85sulk04:32
nickv111eternalswd: Is that necessary?04:32
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nickv111eternalswd: If so, thanks!04:32
birdfishBSG75: is that the nvidia wrapper?04:32
profoX`birdfish: no04:33
eternalswdnickv111, I have a newer version, so it might be I don't know04:33
erikaMadpilot... I'm not worried about my install... I'm just curious about the present state of linux security.04:33
lupine_85ah well, thanks for the answer :)04:33
BSG75birdfish: no it's to get wireless nic to work04:33
profoX`birdfish: its the wireless driver wrapper04:33
tehsuHow can i monitor and utilize04:33
sethkerika, the safety of linux is really unknown, as it isn't strongly attacked.  vandals like to attach where they do the most damage04:33
tehsuthe cpu04:33
birdfishAh, see, it's been a hella long time since I've run graphical in *nix land04:33
tehsuand turn down the voltage04:33
Madpiloterika, "much better than MS's security", is the short version04:33
profoX`birdfish: to wrap wireless windows network drivers and make them usable on linux04:33
birdfishAh, never ran into wireless issues either.  But now that I'm getting a lappy, I might :D04:33
BSG75I wish dapper didn't try to install wireless like the older version .. now I don't know howto take off eth0 that it thinks I need04:33
valehru_birdfish, then how are you running IRC?04:33
VOYAGERBSG75, shure the card needs  ndis wrapper /04:33
BSG75and I can't get wlan0 either04:33
sethktehsu, that's part of power management.  the utilities themselves are ... I think of it  ...04:33
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BSG75under iwconfig .. I can configure the card04:34
birdfishvalehru_: Windows terminal on a college campus? 0_o04:34
sethkBSG75, bring up the network administration tool and disable that interface04:34
sethkBSG75, it's easy to turn one off04:34
valehru_Ahh04:34
erikaOh... and I'm se com inst and atp me, cfii, fe-tj cfii04:34
taychouri-aI need an Mp3 decoder, anyone wanan help me out04:34
nickv111BIBA04:34
BSG75thanks I am looking into it right now sethk04:34
nickv111BIAB*04:34
Don_jrwow, that link is great on teh common commands.  Thanx alot I'll be refferencing it often in the next couple of days04:34
tehsusethk: well my gpu fan is running like crazy and its draining the battery much quicker than it should04:34
birdfishvalehru_: lol, why would I need to be running wireless to utilize IRC?04:34
BSG75afk04:34
supernixdoes anyone know why adept has the word break when you try to install ubuntu-desktop ?04:34
nich0staychouri-a, I would if I knew the first thing about this OS. :P04:34
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MadpilotDon_jr, the BasicCommands one? glad it works :)04:35
valehru_birdfish, I just read about you not running graphically04:35
der0btaychouri-a: have you checked the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki?04:35
taychouri-athanks nich0s04:35
valehru_birdfish, nothing about wireless...04:35
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lupine_85 profox: I'm repo'ing some binary kernel modules, and all these different compiled-for versions are getting on my nerves04:35
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bruenighow would one schedule an even to happen with crontab. I am aware of how to format the line, but can you just edit the crontab file directly or is there some other way you must go about it04:35
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birdfishvalehru_: Ah.  That's just with my servers.  Most of my desktops have been windows stations (mainly because I have to run so much windows only software on campus :/ )04:36
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xepheranyone know of a program that can browse/edit/add files to ext2/3 filesystems under windows?04:36
birdfishvalehru_: it sucks, I know :)04:36
sethkbruenig, you can edit it.  I believe a front end exists also04:36
lupine_85crontab -e works well04:36
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EldaHello04:36
sethkxepher, once drivers for ext2/3 are installed, you use the same tools as for any other files on windows04:36
nich0sxepher, YES!04:36
sethkxepher, windows exploder, for example04:36
SitouhI am trying to get my wireless card to connect to a WPA network. I've installed Network Manager, but it's still not giving me WPA as a connection option04:36
EldaWindows exploded?04:36
valehru_birdfish, indeed it does...but there comes a rare time when windows is needed....thats why I have a disk here somewhere...thank god that that rare time has never happened04:36
zengxiaolonghello04:37
xephersethk, where can i find these drivers? i need to backup some files from windows-> linux04:37
erikaAccording to CBS news in USA tonight one third of all US computers are hijacked by progs that transmit keystrokes and other user data to crooks.04:37
sethkxepher, I don't have the URL, anybody here know the url for downloading ext2/3 drivers for windows?04:37
viator_Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module04:37
sethkxepher, I'll do a quick search.04:37
xephersethk, same04:37
viator_how do i get rid of that04:37
birdfishvalehru_: =) Lucky you.  What other operating systems do you run? (other than ubuntu)  Any BSD's or other flavors that you really like?04:37
nich0sxepher, I'll get you the name of my proggie, one sec.04:37
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valehru_the name is ext2ifs04:37
erikaNow... we all know they are windows PCs04:37
Don_jrWill this thing pop up and tell me when it's done installing?  It's been going for about an hour now04:37
viator_i mean what do i need04:38
EldaErika Im assuing 99% of these 1/3 are using windows?04:38
viator_i got kernel headers thats not it04:38
Eldaand the other 1% mac ;)04:38
distantbodyxepher: Just mount your windows partition and copy the files off of it onto  your linux partition, do you need instructions...?04:38
nich0sext2ifs04:38
tehsuim trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:38
sethkxepher, e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html04:38
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nich0sxepher, ext2ifs04:38
UncleOp22Snagged 6.06 LTS (Desktop) and tried to play with it.  Short report: it hangs after a few minutes of "fiddling" when booted from CDROM.  System details: dual P2/450, 256MB ram, SCSI hard drives (via LSI Logic), cheapo RTL8139-compatible NIC, Matrox Mystique video card.  Runs fine under RH9; I'm exploring ubuntu as a replacement.  Hangs occur after setting up static IP for the NIC (DHCP not currently working, but I'll try that next).  I can bring up 04:38
erikaElda... yah... that's why I only have Linux on my HD04:38
xepherdistantbody, was thinking about doing it from my windows partition... have a little more visual control of where the important ones are04:38
nich0sxepher, it works... doesn't unmount the file system when shutting down windows though04:38
viator_tehsu got somthing else04:39
xephernich0s: thanks04:39
erikaIt's absolutely insane04:39
viator_using apt04:39
xephersethk, thanks04:39
sethkxepher, this is better,  www.fs-driver.org/index.html04:39
viator_like synaptic04:39
RamiKassabhey guys what's a good screenshot program for linux? I use SnagIt for windows and it does scrolling window screenshots and is totally feature packed. Is there anything comparible for linux?04:39
valehru_birdfish, Well I was always a debian fan, used RH 8 for a while.  A friend of mine is trying to get me to use Dyne:bolic distro for some reason...he seems to like it04:39
viator_AND the cli04:39
xephersethk, just found that page04:39
EldaI am still learning to use Linux atm so  atm Win is still my larger partitoin -_-04:39
viator_or mutiple tabs in the cli04:39
sethkxepher, ok, good04:39
xephersethk, It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).04:39
EldaThough Ive not used windows in 4 days now! </proud>04:39
Don_jrI'm on a windows computer right now, installing my first ever *nix system on my laptop beside me.04:39
xepher:)04:39
eternalswdxepher, if you want to backup files from windows to linux, just copy them in linux, it's much safer than writing to ext3 from windows.  If you're trying to backup from linux to windows, then use fs-driver04:39
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EldaWill probably have to go on windows later though as I want to work on some stuff in 3ds >.<04:40
sethkxepher, I agree, if possible write to ext2/3 from linux and only read it in windows04:40
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xephersethk, eternalswd: alright, i'll try that... be right back04:40
valehru_The NTFS support in nix has improved a lot, use the nix drivers04:40
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sethkElda, often you can't get entirely away from it, but that's ok04:40
xephersethk, eternalswd: rebooting to lin04:40
eternalswdxepher, even just reading using the ext3 driver caused me a blue screen04:40
sethkvalehru, it's improved, but it is still dangerous and can corrupt the file system04:40
verbosewhat packages do i need to remove and add to get rid of kde stuff in kubuntu and run ubuntu with gnome?04:41
birdfishvalehru_: I've seen dyne:bolic around, but never looked into it.  I'll go check it out now.04:41
valehru_well.....yeah...but the windows ones are worse.04:41
eternalswdxepher, though who knows if it was the drivers fault or some random combination of events04:41
sethkverbose, just install gnome desktop, don't try to "get rid of" kde04:41
erikaElda... I am sooooooo pissed at Microsoft I doubt I will EVER boot windows on my PC again.04:41
EldaI noticed.... even looking at the games on that tuxgame website or whatever they call it, they try to sell games to play at 2x their price, that and not so many 3d programs out there for it -_-04:41
tehsuim trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) anyone know why i cant apt-get?04:41
SitouhAnybody with experience getting WPA to work? I'm trying to get my box onto the wireless network, and Network Manager doesn't seem to want to give me WPA as an option...04:41
sethkvalehru_, ok, I haven't tested extensively myself, so I can't really say which is worse.04:41
valehru_elda, 3D programs? ever hear of blender?04:41
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EldaWell I enjoy some games when I get to like Eve online, Planet Side, and programs like 3ds-max -_-04:41
verbosesethk: ok, what's that package name?04:42
EldaYep, not as advanced aor as useful as max though04:42
sethktehsu, usually because you didn't run with sudo04:42
fiveironplanetside is awesome04:42
Elda*or04:42
sethktehsu, if not that, then another program (e.g. synaptic) is running and has the lock04:42
EldaHave used them both and was much happier with max04:42
valehru_Elda, I think there is a Maya hack to get it working on Nix04:42
profoX`lupine_85: hey i am wrong..04:42
sethkverbose, I'll get it, hang on04:42
valehru_I did it for a mate of mine once04:42
lupine_85really?04:42
viator_tehsu yes04:42
tehsuk04:42
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profoX`lupine_85: 386 kernel modules work fine on 686 / k7 kernel04:42
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valehru_haha04:42
viator_cause somthing esle is using apt04:42
tehsusethk: yeah u were right now it works04:43
valehru_Elda, who is?04:43
lupine_85w00t! :D04:43
eternalswdthe best way to share info between linux and windows is a fat32 partition IMO04:43
sethkverbose, gnome-desktop-environment04:43
viator_the autoupdater or synaptic  or the add remove programs etc04:43
profoX`lupine_85: but NOT the other way around04:43
sethktehsu, excellent04:43
verbosesethk: thanks04:43
valehru_Elda, damm expensive....I do a bit of Rendering, blender suits my needs for the time being...04:43
birdfishDoes Dapper-Desktop ship with gnome 2.14 now?  Or still 2.12?04:43
profoX`lupine_85: 686/k7 modules don't work on 386 kernel04:43
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distantbodytehsu: System>Administrator>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for gcc, Ps, the message means that the server is busy04:44
EldaDur... thats why I wll stick with 3ds for the time being xD04:44
profoX`birdfish: 2.1404:44
viator_only one thing can use apt at a time04:44
verbosesethk: just so i can do it myself next time, is there an easier way of finding that stuff than asking here or like apt-cache search gnome|more04:44
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sethkviator_, correct04:44
erikaUbuntu does 95% of what I want to do... and it does it well. The other 5% is agravating. I have 2 issues. It won't talk to my camera, and it won't talk to my Battery-backed uninterruptible power supply.04:44
sethkverbose, I used synaptic and searched for    gnome desk        which finds packages with both words in the name04:44
tehsusethk: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:44
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birdfishprofoX`: Woot!04:44
EldaQuestion though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?04:44
Bertohi - my machine just got hacked (short story: i'm a moron), so to be safe, i gotta clean out and reinstall.  I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, but my box is OLD.  Does anyone run ubuntu on 5 year old hardware?04:44
sethktehsu, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:44
RamiKassabwhat are the best screenshot apps for linux? I used to use SnagIt for windows but need something for linux now. I need to be able to take scrolling window screenshots04:44
tehsuoh yeah04:45
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EldaAs I cannot apt-get as its on my hd04:45
sethkBerto, sure04:45
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profoX`Berto: system specs?04:45
Bertosethk: really?  ubuntu seems to have too slick of graphics for old hardware04:45
eternalswdRamiKassab, what do you mean by scrolling window screenshots?04:45
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:45
valehru_RamiKassab, PrintScreen + GIMP04:45
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fishySound is playing in Banshee and amaroK and other players, but won't work in Pandora.com in Firefox, Flock, or WINE'd Firefox. Any idea what's wrong?04:45
sethkBerto, I've run it with 10 year old graphics cards04:45
xepherback04:45
BertoprofoX` and sethk -  AMD Athlon 550MHz, 384mb RAM04:45
sethkBerto, of course, the performance is lower, but it works04:45
Don_jrBerto I"m installing it now on a system thats 4 or 5 years old.  P2 500 mghz processor with 256 mg ram.04:45
VOYAGERim running on 4 p3's04:45
profoX`Berto: will work fine04:45
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Bertosethk: yeah its ok, Opera sitll runs REAL fast04:45
RamiKassabeternalswd: where the screenshot app scrolls the window as it's taking a screenshot... like a screenshot of a long web page etc04:46
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RamiKassabvalehru: that's not enough for me04:46
sethkBerto, that's ok, although you may want to use a low overhead desktop such as fluxbox04:46
fishyThe little progress bar isn't even moving - maybe Flash doesn't have access to it?04:46
jman8888Is there a better way to ssh other than [ssh sever@192.168.0.10 apt-get ...... ]  Its getting annoying typing so much...04:46
Bertoawesome....   i almost bought a new machine, but kernel 2.6 saved me from doing that.04:46
RamiKassabvalehru: GIMP has the ability to take screenshots but it sucks04:46
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eternalswdRamiKassab, would that be one image, or successive?04:46
sethkBerto, there are a few low overhead desktops; fluxbox is the only one I've tried but several have good reps04:46
RamiKassabeternalswd: one big image04:46
fishyAny help? :)04:46
Bertoi will get a new one when i pay my parents the 1000 i owe them first!04:46
profoX`Berto: i suggest you use xubuntu though, that's faster for your machine than ubuntu/kubuntu, but ubuntu/kubuntu will run fine too -- you can change the desktops after installation too (GNOME/KDE/XFCE)04:46
Bertosethk: i actually get away with kde just fine here... i like the applets, but might give fluxbox another shot04:46
sethkjman8888, do ssh sever@xxxxxxxxxxx     and get the prompt, and then type commands at the prompt04:46
RamiKassabeternalswd: SnagIt for Windows does that among tons of other things, avis, mpegs, etc04:46
w30RamiKassab, Gnome works nice for screenshots, just hit printscreen button04:47
sethkBerto, I use kde also, I was just talking about running on old hardware04:47
BertoprofoX`: what is xubuntu?  a desktop flavor or a different version of the distro?04:47
tehsu!info glib04:47
ubotuPackage glib does not exist in dapper04:47
EldaQuestion though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?04:47
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sethkBerto, but sure, try kde, if the performance is acceptable, keep it, if not, change it.04:47
xephera long night awaits me! backup files from win->lin, reinstall win, move files, reinstall lin04:47
sethkxepher, you don't have a spare ide drive to pop in to the box?04:47
RamiKassabw30: I need something that will scroll the window in the browser though as it's making the screenshot that way I can get a screenshot of a long webpage for example04:47
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WarboHelp, I'm having real problems trying to set up a wireless network. Now that my router has come back to life it is working for wired, but not for wireless. I can't connect to it04:47
JbirkI have a VNC poroblem04:48
xephersethk: what do you mean? to back up the files?04:48
jman8888sethk, WOAH! Its like im on my server...04:48
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SitouhI've got a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card (unsure on chipset) which I'm trying to set up to connect to a WPA wireless network.04:48
distantbodyvalehru: Applications>Accessories>Take Screenshot04:48
xephersethk: i really need to reformat my windows hd, its really slow04:48
JbirkVNC is working, but I keep getting disconnected and it says Unknown Message Type04:48
tjcarterhey all, I was was going to finally try out the nifty gooey installer thing..  Can't seem to find LVM stuff anywhere.  Need I the alt installer for LVM?04:48
Bertoawesome thanks all...04:48
sethkxepher, well, sure, if you want, but I was thinking about installing ubuntu on the second disk04:48
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sethkxepher, oh, ok04:48
erikaI tried xubuntu... wanted to love it. I gave up when I tried to set up my printer. Xubuntu is still a geek os.04:48
JbirkHelp04:48
tehsusethk: whats the aptget for glib04:48
xephersethk: :)04:48
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T3KnOhello?04:48
sethkxepher, a second drive will also speed up the backup04:48
sethktehsu, I'll look, but, it should be installed as a dependency of whatever is using it.04:48
Don_jrmy goodness Ubuntu takes a while to install....04:48
xephersethk: yeah..04:48
profoX`Sitouh: find out the chipset using google or: lspci|grep Ethernet04:48
T3KnOcan anybody help me with a question about QQ Instant Messenger on Ubuntu?04:48
Warboerika: I don't like Xubuntu, just because it doesn't give me enough control04:49
T3KnOanybody?04:49
profoX`Don_jr: sarcasm?04:49
xephersethk: dont really feel like opening up my computer's guts at the moment (dust, furry animals, etc.)04:49
EldaTo install a file I unzipper would I have to use ./make install or what?04:49
louis__T3LnO,are u a chinese?04:49
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sethktehsu, libglib2.0-dev04:49
WarboDon_jr: That is because of all the great stuff it comes with04:49
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Elda*unzipped04:49
tehsuty04:49
profoX`xepher: furry what o_O04:49
tehsuls04:49
tehsuer04:49
profoX`sounds unhealthy04:49
sethkDon_jr, you can install a minimal system much more quickly04:49
Don_jrnot sarcasm, I wasn't expecting over an hour of nothing but disk spinning...lol04:49
xepherprofoX`: nothing... did i say something? :)04:50
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louis__maybe i can help you ,T3KnO,i use qq04:50
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Don_jrnothign on the screen to show progress, just the disk going crazy! lol04:50
profoX`I install ubuntu completely in 15 minutes04:50
Don_jryou have a much faster system than I do profox04:50
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profoX`on 800 Mhz machine Don_jr04:50
Don_jrmines only 500 mghz and only 256 mg ram04:50
sethkDon_jr, once the install is done, check whether dma is being used for your drive.  If it isn't, then the install will be slow04:50
profoX`mine 256MB ram too04:50
Don_jrand I just hit the install button, it gave me no options at all04:50
WarboCan I get some wireless help from someone knowledgable about these things please? I can't talk to my router wirelessly04:51
w30RamiKassab, donno of any thing like that for anything Microsoft Windows,  Mac,  or Linux so you know more than me which is no big deal ha!04:51
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profoX`Don_jr: thats not right. did you burn the cd yourself?04:51
sethkDon_jr, there are options with the alternate cd04:51
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VOYAGERvery slow if hd is on same channel as cd04:51
Don_jrsethk after install is done, it won't matter.04:51
EldaTook me longer to install Ubuntu because I was having a hard time trying to figure out how hard I had to make each partition xD04:51
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profoX`Elda: lol04:51
sethkDon_jr, sure it will, because you don't want the machine to run slowly forever04:51
Don_jrprofoX yes I DL'd the sio and burnt it myself.04:51
Eldaerr how large04:51
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profoX`Don_jr: burnt it on a low speed like 4x ?04:51
profoX`or 2x even :)04:51
Eldaoh my... that is perverted04:51
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xephergah.. can someone tell me how to open file explorer as root (so that i can move around my windows drive)04:51
Don_jrnope, on 1204:51
RamiKassabw30: lol ok that works... guess I'll have to keep looking around. Windows has got a few great ones but I need one for Linux for some of my work requirements04:51
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Elda;_;  long day of studying physiology is not good for the brain04:51
Sitouhprofox': It's an Actiontec PCMCIA card - that help?04:52
profoX`Don_jr: the cd is very sensitive -- when you burn a new one on low speeds it might work fine04:52
taychouri-aanyone know how to get songs off an ipod on to a linux04:52
T3KnOLouis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?04:52
janbananHow do I make the trash-bin appear on the desktop instead of the bottom-bar?04:52
Warbo!info gtkpod04:52
profoX`Don_jr: alot of people reported that they had to burn it on 4x to get it working04:52
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB04:52
tjcarterSitouh: yeah, insert it into your high capacity paper shredder.04:52
tjcarter;)04:52
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Don_jrthat's cool, I don't want to start this install all over....you think it would help if I did? burn a new one on 2X and start all over?04:52
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EldaDon_jr, it installs pretty fast imo04:52
Bertohow does ubuntu fit in one 700mb iso??   i'm used to 3 or 4 cds from mandriva....  is there way more downloading later?04:52
Warbojanbanan: Have a look in Applications>System Tools. Is there an entry @Configuration Editor@?04:53
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Sitouhtjcarter: That bad?04:53
EldaI was up and running in about 20 ish minutes04:53
wweaselHow do I prevent Sound Juicer from opening automatically when I insert an Audio CD?04:53
EldaMuch niftier than Winbloat04:53
tjcarterSitouh: you may be able to get it to work without much fuss, but Actiontec hardware isn't the best.04:53
Don_jrI'll burn a new one at a slower speed and reformat the HD and try again, see what happens04:53
profoX`Sitouh: actiontec seems to use atmel drivers..04:53
Warbowweasel: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media04:53
nich0sBerto, I have installed Ubuntu 5 times on different systems on a satellite connection and I really don't think that it is that bad.04:53
profoX`tjcarter: actiontec probably uses chipsets from other vendors like atmel04:53
mindjujui'm trying to install the kde interface on the server install of ubuntu but when i type sudo apt-get install kde, it says it can't find the package.  but when i search on packages.ubuntu.com it says the package exists -- any ideas?04:53
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louis__i am sorry,i receive nothing,you can ask you problem here04:53
birdfishAlright guys, time to log off and get some sleep.  I'll catch up with you all later!04:54
profoX`Sitouh: what did "lspci | grep Ethernet" give you?04:54
fooAny idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?04:54
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profoX`birdfish: bye04:54
louis__T3Kno04:54
Bertonich0s: i have a plenty fine connection, i'm just wondering if this 700mb cd is everything or does it download way more?04:54
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T3KnOLouis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?04:54
tjcarterprofoX`: Probably, yes.04:54
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louis__not yet04:54
tjcarterin fact, Atmel would be my #1 guess.04:54
erikaanyway... the ntsb sent me a letter... telling me one of their operatives had his laptop stolen. All of the data was pilots in florida. They are telling me to contact the credit people. I flew big jets for a major airline until I aquired the joy of MS last march. Should I worry about this latest identity theft scare?04:54
louis__what's ur problem?04:54
janbananWarbo: No04:54
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SitouhprofoX': So, I have Network Manager installed, as instructed in the help wiki. However, it won't give me WPA security as an option04:54
sethkmindjuju, I believe kde-desktop-environment04:55
xepheranyone can tell me how to browse the file system graphically as "root"?04:55
Warbojanbanan: OK, open up Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor and turn it on (Alacarte can take a while to load)04:55
T3KnOWell I would like to know how I could register an QQ account and use it?04:55
bruenigxepher, gksudo nautilus04:55
mindjujuthx sethk, i'll try that04:55
nich0sBerto, You and I both know that there is no possible way to fit everything that you want on to a single 700mb CD (unless you are a minimalist). There is enough on the 700mb CD to get you up and running, but there is an additional download of under 200mb. :P04:55
fiveironhey anyone play enemy territory?04:55
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T3KnOI have done some research about it, and it seems you need openQ?04:55
profoX`Sitouh: does the card work without WPA ?04:55
T3KnOor some kind04:55
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xepherbruenig: thanks04:55
der0bmindjuju: for the whole kubuntu desktop, install the kubuntu-desktop package04:55
distantbodyBerto: 700mb is all of it, plus +-200mb worth of updates04:55
louis__you can use lumaqq in ubuntu04:55
SitouhIt did before I installed Network Manager.04:55
Don_jrOkay, writing a new disk at 2X04:55
Berto900mb is still nothing, but cool nich0s and distantbody ... wasn't sure how lightweight it was04:55
mindjujuder0b, i tried that one too actually, but it says same thing, can't find package04:56
JbirkI have a VNC problem04:56
Jbirkplease help me04:56
JbirkMy VNc is borken04:56
T3KnOam I able to register via lunaqq?04:56
JbirkWhen I connect, I get an awful error04:56
wweaselI just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound works in other apps)04:56
Jbirkrandomly04:56
JbirkIt works great until I get kicked with either04:56
nich0sJbirk, What error?04:56
Warbowweasel: Try plugging your speakers into the CD drive...04:56
Jbirkrect too big or unknown message type04:56
xepherbruenig: works beautifully, thanks04:56
nich0sJbirk,  For that matter, what program?>04:56
JbirkVNC04:57
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janbananWarbo: and what do I do there?04:57
JbirkI have the server installed on the Ubuntu box04:57
w30Berto, yep but the Unbuntu cd group that you buy has lots of apps but the download cd is live and has just some of the apps that you will want and you have to get more off the net.04:57
louis__if you want to register an qq account,you can access http://www.tecent.com.cn04:57
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Warbojanbanan: Have you turned on System Tools>Configuration Editor?04:57
wweaselWarbo: Laptop. And, CD audio works in Sound Juicer04:57
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JbirkIt is setup with the xinetd internet superserver04:57
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janbananWarbo: yes04:57
nickv111Haha04:57
louis__T3KNO,can you access chinese website?04:57
nickv111I figured something out04:57
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JbirkBasically, It does everything I want04:57
nickv111I was using dapper-backports instead of dapper04:58
EldaCripes04:58
nich0snickv111, AWESOME!04:58
nickv111;)04:58
Jbirkthen it bombs out / crashes04:58
T3KnOyes I can...04:58
nickv111nich0s: ;)04:58
EldaCan someone help me with a bit of an installation/uninstallation question?04:58
louis__lumaqq is a qq client04:58
T3KnOlet me try for a sec..04:58
Warbojanbanan: OK, then open it up and go in apps>nautilus>desktop and there is an option like @trash_visible@, turn that on04:58
dalila!ps/204:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps/2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
nich0sElda, If it is eady :p04:58
T3KnOo i c04:58
Sitouhprofox': It did before I installed Network Manager :(04:58
EldaHopefully if someone does answer I will be able to see it this time xD04:58
nich0serr easy :p04:58
fiveironhey anyone play enemy territory?04:58
dalila!mouse04:58
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:58
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EldaWell its not easy for me but might be easy for you?04:58
Bertow30: whoa the download cd is "live" ??  haha to me, live means you run it off of the cd04:58
T3KnOi am not able to reach this http://www.tecent.com.cn04:58
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nich0selda, What's goin on?04:58
xepherone other question: can anyone help me installing my sony nw-e505 flash mp3 player under linux.... the dreaded sonicstage is acting up under wine04:58
T3KnOcurrently offline?04:58
brueniglets say I wanted to launch nautilus or totem with crontab. Do i need to add something in the crontab. As in should I add a PATH, I have never done this before not to clear on that short of thing. what about a SHELL, i notice other crontab had a SHELL entry should that be in my own crontab also04:59
louis__you can search "lumaqq" by google,and download it04:59
EldaI downloaded a new version of wireless network manager as it supports vpn support (what I need to get on the internet at school) but I am curious would I have to delete the old version first?  AND04:59
louis__i can register one qq number for u04:59
Warbobruenig: You may need DISPLAY set04:59
EldaSince I didnt dl it useing ap-get install how would I install it? >.<04:59
sethkElda, ordinarily no04:59
w30Berto, right boot it up on a bare box and install from an install icon on the Desktop, cool eh?04:59
bruenigDISPLAY, and what might that look like04:59
T3KnOok i'll download one now..04:59
janbananWarbo: Thanks mate04:59
EldaIve unpacked it onto a directory on my desktop already04:59
Warbo"DISPLAY=localhost:0" maybe05:00
distantbodyElda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros05:00
EldaAnd ./install doesnt seem to work for me >.<05:00
bruenigok I will mess around with that05:00
Bertow30: haha yeah exactly.  live cd to me means like knoppix05:00
Warbo!compile05:00
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:00
louis__then you can log with your account by using lumaqq05:00
sethkbruenig, you can always run a program with it's full path name and not worry about PATH.  PATH is set to a reasonable value by the default bash configuration files05:00
T3KnOdo I need a specific version to have it work?05:00
wweaselI just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound, including CD Audio, works in other apps)05:00
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haasteem!repositories05:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:00
WarboBerto: I am in the live CD right now...05:00
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nich0selda, Did you see the !compile output?05:00
nich0s!compile05:00
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:00
bruenigyeah I know that. but I was trying to get totem to open a file, I tried full path to totem followed by full path to file but that didn't work05:00
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PMantisFATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format05:00
PMantisIs vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?05:01
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bruenigbut that might be because of no DISPLAY05:01
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louis__lumaqq2005 is ok,if you use lumaqq2006,it may not stable05:01
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WarboPMantis: Make sure you have the right vmware-modules (I think) package for your kernel05:01
Don_jrwhat is the kernel?  I"ve seen that used alot.05:01
Bertow30: one last thing - i already have /home with tons of stuff and obviously do NOT want to lose that.  Is the installer nice and friendly about making sure it doesn't get formatted?05:01
nich0sElda, That may help you with the install file. Were you just not able to find anything in the package manager?05:01
Warbo!kernel05:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:01
w30Berto, well The Ubuntu cd is live, it is a memory checker, and it has the install media (basic) on it so you can got to preconfigure repositories to get all kinds of neat stuff.05:01
T3KnOhehe...just downloading lumaqq _2006 M2 Linux..05:01
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T3KnOi'll try to look for lumaqq200505:02
louis__that's ok05:02
louis__lumaqq2006 is just ok05:02
Bertow30: that's a really great idea to have the installer like that.  as long as i don't lose /home :)05:02
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nich0sThere are only 828 people in here.. that is sad. :P05:02
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Don_jrthat's enough for me05:02
PMantisWarbo, There is no "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26-686" package05:02
w30Berto, also it can boot your installation if a Windows reinstall wipes out bootloader05:02
distantbodyDon_jr: Your hardware talks to the kernel, and your kernel talks to your software.05:02
nich0sI think microsoft should build a similar IRC room :P05:02
louis__T3Kno,where are u?why you can not access chinese website?05:02
T3KnOabout 12.4 mb...or so...05:03
Don_jrso it's the backbone of unix then?05:03
eternalswdRamiKassab, I don't know about a linux screengrab program, but there's a firefox extension you might want to look into at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1146/05:03
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nich0sDon_jr, It's the like the registry in windows :p05:03
nich0sDon_jr,  The engine in a car.05:03
Bertow30: not a probelm here... i've been linux 100% for 6 years.  i'm just a laggard when it comes to trying new distro05:03
T3KnOi don't know why i can not reach that page....i am currently in Shenzhen, China05:03
VOYAGERBerto, i rename a copy of home and save it just in case05:03
piratepenguinUbuntu's been in a bad state for me recently... (not related to the X update afaik).. does anyone else get a green border around a non-maximized gnome-terminal? (I'm using xorg-air btw)05:03
Don_jrand while i"m thinking of it.  Is there a difference between unix and linux or can they truly be used interchangably?05:03
nich0sDon_jr,  The SOMETHING MASSIVE to it's DEPENDENCY :P05:03
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louis__you try www.qq.com05:03
louis__i'm in shenzhen too05:04
WarboPMantis: There's your problem then (don't ask me how to fix it though :) )05:04
linux__alienI ve a weird problem with Ubuntu . I use PPPOE to connect to the internet and it gets connected also but when i leave the connection idle for some time i am unable to browse using Firefox but IRC Chat works and gaim works could some one help me05:04
T3KnOreally?05:04
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BertoVOYAGER: what do you mean?  my /home/  is bigger than the rest of my space, so i can't copy it or back it up05:04
louis__sure05:04
T3KnOI live near DI WANG Building05:04
PMantisWarbo, Heh, well my problem must be a distro problem05:04
louis__i am a chinese05:04
VOYAGERrofl05:04
BertoVOYAGER: i'm just asking if there's an option to keep existing partitions?05:04
louis__i working near SAI GE mansion05:05
BertoVOYAGER: and NOT format certain ones..05:05
nalioth!offtopic05:05
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:05
w30nich0s, in the old days Microsoft had a following like Linux does now with clubs and every thing that Gates didn't like ,like sharing software (on floppydisks).05:05
linux__alienis this a bug in ubuntu ?05:05
T3KnOi am also chinese but from the Netherland05:05
T3KnOs05:05
TheRealCfreaklinux__alien: sounds like a DNS problem ... do you have another OS to test it on?05:05
VOYAGERwas a advanced mode in beta testing but not sure now05:05
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louis__are you a boy or a girl?05:05
T3KnOboy05:05
nich0sw30, Did you used to have to walk to school, 30 miles, in the snow, both ways? :P05:05
T3KnOyou?05:05
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louis__boy05:05
T3KnOi c05:05
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Jbirkany idea for fixing my VNC?05:06
nich0sw30, sorry. I know :P05:06
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Cheza_meh05:06
louis__Netherland?05:06
sethkonly 30 miles?05:06
naliothlouis__: T3KnO : go to #ubuntu-offtopic please05:06
T3KnOyou ever go to club called ben si?05:06
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louis__soory05:06
nich0sw30, I couldn't help it... Now Microsoft has a following, the majority of them have pitchforks :p05:06
Ignacioalguien habla espaol ?05:06
louis__sorry05:06
nalioth!es05:06
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w30nich0s, I think that era died about the time of Windows95 and the get away from command line DOS05:06
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:06
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EldaI missed everything that was just said after my question -_-05:06
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distantbodyElda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros05:07
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EldaBut what Id last said is that Synaptics Packaged Manager has .6.2 rather than .6.405:07
bruenigapt-get is so much easier05:07
w30nich0s, no. but it was uphill both ways :=)05:07
T3KnOlouis__ ---> /join #ubuntu-offtopic05:07
EldaPackage Manager05:07
WarboApplications>Add/Remove is for n00bs, Synaptic is for pros05:07
profoX`Warbo: well -- universe and multiverse are alot bigger iirc05:07
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louis__nalioth , i help him to slove the qq porblem ,hehe ,do not drive out us05:07
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bruenigadd/remove is frustrating all I have had it to is tell me it can't do what I want it to do unless I do it in synaptic05:07
nickv111I always use apt-get; I'll never get used to all this GUI stuff05:07
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nich0sw30, damn, can't believe I messed that opportunity up. :P05:08
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naliothlouis__: T3KnO: this is a support channel, you can find out each others night club preferences in #ubuntu-offtopic05:08
nickv111The problem with (K)ubuntu is this: it's too easy, and too intuitive. I'm used to always making the problem harder than it is05:08
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nich0sI'm 18, I was raised on a Gui :P05:08
eternalswdlouis_, just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat05:08
profoX`nickv111: me too - although synaptic has a nice category search thingy05:08
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louis__mistake05:08
WarboprofoX`: I just haven't run Synaptic without enabling Universe before. I only did it just now because I forgot to set a DNS server so apt couldn't load the Universe package list05:08
Don_jrthe more I read this stuff, the more I learn I don't know anything about linux.....05:08
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shrayhi05:08
nich0sHOWDY!05:09
T3KnOo i am sorry if i mentioned that...i won't do that again...05:09
naliothlouis__: T3KnO is waiting to continue your nightlife chat in #ubuntu-offtopic05:09
shraycan you run xgl on edgy eft?05:09
ddnaI am getting cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57 when I play mms:// video stream, I have latest  w32codec already installed help ubuntu amd 6405:09
dr_willisDon_jr,  the more you learn, the more you learn.. that you have more to learn05:09
cvpIf someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.05:09
Don_jrlol that is true05:09
profoX`louis__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic ;)05:09
louis__ok,05:09
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w30nich0s, but I haven't used Windows since it wiped my lilo boot loader and made re reinstall Linux. I re-installed Linux whole disk and never looked back since RedHat 4.605:09
tolesheiIs there really any advantage to updating the kernel from 386 to k7 (in my case)05:09
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nich0sw30, I think redhat 4.6 is before my time :P05:10
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EldaBleh!05:10
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Don_jrI've never used a *nix based system in my life.  I'm installing ubuntu for the first time today!05:10
EldaSynaptics only has version .6.4.205:10
Eldaerr .6.205:10
EldaI need .6.405:10
distantbodyElda: did you refresh it?05:10
eternalswdddna, try it in vlc05:10
EldaYes05:10
w30nich0s, at least it ain't linux1.1 or whatever Linus called it.05:11
nich0sw30, I am working on weaning myself away from the microsoft, but I know it sooo well.. I can dance circles around everything in windows :P05:11
profoX`toleshei: it will run slightly faster..05:11
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EldaI have it sitting in a directory, I just am not sure how to manually install it05:11
SitouhAnyone with experience getting WPA to work with wireless cards?05:11
testttis it possible to hook up my Linksys WMP54GS and get it to work? i mean is there drivers for it?05:11
EldaIt has an install file and the like in there05:11
EldaIve tried ./install05:11
rpedroElda: what program ?05:11
bruenigmy crontab entry right now is * * * * * /usr/bin/nautilus, my thought is that it will launch nautilus every minute. But it doesn't do so. any thoughts05:11
Don_jrit's a fat32 system I'm installing into, I know it will reformat it to what it needs, but would the install go faster if it was ext3 already?05:11
omooreI've been a centos user for some time now as my primary os. I'm looking for a bit more modern distro tho and like ubuntu..05:11
tolesheithanks05:11
profoX`toleshei: and support multiple processors and more RAM (+4GB or something like that?)05:11
omoorei use vmware alot tho.. for client work, etc...05:11
WarboWhere does network-manager-gnome go? (as in Applications, System>Admin, etc.) I've heard it is quite good at doing wireless, so maybe it'll help me, but I can't find out how to open it05:11
distantbodyElda: "sudo ./..."05:11
EldaThis http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/05:11
EldaIve tried sudo05:11
nich0sDon_jr, It will want to auto partition the drive anyways... it will not really make a difference esp if this is your first install.05:12
Don_jrok05:12
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janbananI've made a new panel at the bottom of the desktop. Is it possible to make it appear in the background so for example firefox is displayed over it?05:12
omoorehow is ubuntu with vmware where ubuntu is the host? has anyone here doing this for a long time?05:12
tolesheiwell since i'm just running an athlon 2000+ with a gig of ram, is it worth it?05:12
Don_jrtotally reformatted and empty HD I'm installing into05:12
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EldaWant to get .6.4 working because it has vpn support which is what I need to use at school to get online05:12
omoore(not as guest, as the host for vmware workstation)05:12
distantbodyElda: is the terminal in the correct directory05:12
eternalswdtesttt, possibly.  the best place to check would be www.ubuntuforums.org just search for your wireless device and you might run into a howto05:12
EldaYes I do cd... type in the name of it and hit tab so it auto complete05:12
Eldas05:12
distantbodyElda: an what does it say?05:13
EldaIve tried ./INSTALL ./install makefile or whatever its called05:13
EldaNadda05:13
qatsigood night all !, im haivng troubble with my xorg.conf and i need to rebuild it. I know there is a command to do so, but i dont remember it, can anyone please tell me what command is that ?05:13
Eldalet me try again05:13
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TheRealCfreakElda it sounds like you're trying to compile software05:13
Eldaewww05:13
TheRealCfreakyou need the development tools in order to do that05:13
nich0sw30, How did you get away from gates-ville and get yourself to adapt to linux. what did you read, where did you go?05:13
nich0s!compile :P05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
EldaEven if it has an install file already therE?05:13
profoX`Elda: do you have a "no screens found" error?05:13
Eldanope05:13
eternalswdElda, what are you trying to compile?05:14
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qatsino one knows the command to re-build xorg.conf ?05:14
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cvpIf someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.05:14
tnzrElda: is the install file called "INSTALL" ?  if so its a text file with instructions.05:14
profoX`Elda: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
profoX`Elda: that will rebuild the xorg.conf file05:14
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rpedroElda: try typing gedit INSTALL05:14
sethkcvp, better to ask here, let everyone help05:14
distantbodyqatsi: i; get it in two secs...05:14
nich0sprofoX`, that is for qatsi I thinks05:14
qatsithanks :D05:14
cvpsethk: my problem involves a lot of gibberish that my computer spit at me... it would take up a good portion of the page05:14
Warboqatsi: apt-get source xserver-xorg maybe?05:14
nich0ssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:15
profoX`nich0s: oops05:15
EldaEwww looking at the install file its a compile thing05:15
nich0sprofoX`, hehe :P05:15
eternalswdcvp, post it in the pastebin05:15
cvpsethk: and the last thing I want to do is annoy everybody here05:15
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profoX`qatsi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:15
=== Elda has 0 Idea how to compile a thing >.>
nich0scvp, I am annoying everyone here :P05:15
EldaI think Ill just leave that alone for now05:15
TheRealCfreakElda: most source tar files come with an installation file that compiles it for you. But you have to have the compilier and make and all the dev tools ... What are you trying to install?05:15
Warbo!compile > Elda05:15
distantbodyqatsi: here is the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:15
Eldahttp://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/  Trying to install this05:15
jman8888Ummm....What do i do if i forget my USERNAME! (I set my sister up a pc and gave her her own username but forgot it...)05:15
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nich0sOoer, while we are on the subject, where can I get the dev tools for compiling?05:16
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EldaI wish to use .6.405:16
tnzrElda: isnt there a .deb for that?05:16
Bertoso i never got a confident answer to this:  i have mandriva 2006 and want to format /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda6 with / and /usr -- however, i do NOT want the installer to format /dev/hda7 which is my /home.  Is this going to be OK?05:16
Warbojman8888: I would boot into recovery mode, add a new user and add them to admin group05:16
IcemanV9network manager has a long way to go; it works, but not perfect :/05:16
Eldaerrr let me see if its int he directory05:16
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kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:16
SitouhMy wireless card works when I'm not trying to use WPA (or Network Manager), but Network Manager isn't giving me WPA as an option05:16
Berto(oh and i didn't mention above that i'd be installing ubuntu, of course)05:16
EldaIt works fine for me but I need VPN support so I can get on at school05:16
jman8888Warbo, How...05:16
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foo Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?05:17
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tnzrBerto you can do it.. not sure how in ubuntu but I bet involves selecting "Manually partition hard drives.." or whatever instead of the auto mode05:17
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dr_willisfoo perhaps ya got no speaker? :P05:17
Warbojman8888: adduser will add a user, but I forget how to add someone to a group05:17
Bertotnzr: yeah i saw some screenshots on that from one guide about windows05:17
cvpI can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.05:17
VOYAGERfoo turn on the system sounds05:17
tnzrBerto: you may even be able to make it ignore that partition in Auto mode, then later you can just mount that partition on /home and you are all set05:17
TheRealCfreakElda: I think you want, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome05:18
Bertotnzr: a wise idea.  just say no touch05:18
tnzrBerto: its easy on the command line, but I couldnt tell you how with automated gui junk like installers05:18
Warbotnzr: Even easier, just set it to mount as /home and tell it not to format05:18
EldaOkey so how would I know what I need to !compile ?05:18
EldaKk05:18
foodr_willis: I do. This worked fine on debian.05:18
fooVOYAGER: How?05:18
TheRealCfreakYou shouldn't have to compile05:18
tnzrBerto: what Warbo said (though I am absolved of all responsibility from here on in :)05:18
TheRealCfreakif you really want to compile ... um hard to explain, you need a bunch of packages even to get started05:18
IcemanV9Elda: you don't need to know to compile; apt-get will take care of it. :)05:19
BertoWarbo: awesome, thanks.  that's what I was wondering -- if there's a NO FORMAT option.  i'd flip out if it formatted my stuff05:19
nich0sI think he is saying that you don't want to even start with it :p05:19
EldaErrr apt-get only gives me version .6.205:19
nich0sor she05:19
nich0ssorry05:19
eternalswdElda, I think you need to do sudo make install05:19
EldaReading package lists... Done05:19
EldaBuilding dependency tree... Done05:19
Eldanetwork-manager-gnome is already the newest version.05:19
Elda0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:19
sethkBerto, it's better to take the mode where you get a veto05:19
Eldakk05:19
jman8888Warbo, I just found on Ubuntu forums to do revovery mode them cd /home then type ls... Seems so obvious.05:19
TheRealCfreakahhh05:19
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Bertosethk: hhaah what?   manual mode you mean?05:20
WarboBerto: There is a page on the installer just after the manual partition editor (I assume you are going to do it manually) which lets you set each partition's mount point and whether it should be formatted. (I have only done it with manual, it may be available on automatic I don't know)05:20
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jman8888Also why dont i see 2000(On a seperate hd on the grub menu)05:20
w30nich0s, I saw an interview on a tv show called techtv or somethin like that. It was the two guys that founded RedHat. I said tomyself 'Self, that is for me."05:20
Eldaeternalswd, that doesnt work -_-05:20
TheRealCfreakElda: just doing make install won't work.05:20
Warbojman8888: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think of that :)05:20
dasGewitte1Where can I get the package growisofs?05:20
cruddpuppetcan some one help me install divx05:20
SitouhAnybody know why Network Manager won't give me WPA security?05:21
distantbodyjman8888: there *should* be a dropdown box at the top right05:21
EldaHow do I determine which file I have to "make" ?05:21
TheRealCfreakElda: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?05:21
cvpI can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.05:21
Eldalet me go and look05:21
eternalswdElda, see if you have make -> sudo apt-get install make05:21
BertoWarbo: perfect, i'm confident now.  i can figure out the rest.05:21
Bertotyahks!!05:21
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cruddpuppethello05:21
qatsisorry to bother you again, but months ago i used a command just like the one you gave me: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the other one configured X by itself, this one is asking me things, and i just want to auto detect the settings...do you know what im i talking about :P?05:21
WarboElda: "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall -D"05:21
IcemanV9ya, i just noticed that network-manager version is 6.2 on Ubuntu, but there is 6.4 out there. :/05:21
nich0sw30, What about it made you want to switch to it?  I mean, from what I can tell so far is that I am just awkward in this environment.05:21
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cruddpuppetCAn some one here help me install divx?05:21
rpedro!wpa >> Sitouh05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wpa > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
w30nich0s, I don't imagine they have that kid of time nowadays.05:21
distantbodyqatsi: i'll private message05:22
EldaI have make now >.>05:22
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jordanaurpedro, search for wpa in the ubuntu wiki05:22
qatsidistantbody: ok05:22
eternalswdcvp, sounds like your hard drive is going bad, do you have another computer that you can load it in as a slave?05:22
SitouhI went through all the steps the wiki said, and it's still not working05:22
jman8888distantbody, ? I installed using a random username(Im used to my Login screen i got from gnome-look that shows all my users avalible.05:22
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fiendskull9hello05:22
EldaOkey updating packages05:22
rpedroSitouh: for you ^^05:22
EldaMy head is going to explode!05:22
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heyuhey.. can anyone give a hand? my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"05:22
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fiendskull9im having trouble removing the xfonts-artwiz package05:23
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cvpeternalswd: no can do, I have one laptop and one desktop, and I can't stick my notebook hard drive into my desktop...05:23
Don_jrman burning at 2X is slow....I really hope it installs faster for waiting this long...lol05:23
WarboCan I please get some help with Wifi? I have asked a lot and got no response. My help ratio is extraordinarily one-sided in this community....05:23
EldaIs there anything more basic I should learn how to do before I mess with all this?05:23
Sitouhrpedro: I went through everything I could find there in the help.05:23
cruddpuppetCan some one help me out here? I have an .avi file and I don't know how to install divx05:23
dasGewitte1Warbo: what's the problem?05:23
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fiendskull9Don_jr: you have a 2x dvd drive?05:23
jordanauwarbo whats up05:23
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dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: use mplayer to play the .avi file05:24
cruddpuppetmplayer?05:24
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haiyaihi05:24
w30nich0s, the best thing to do is buy some books, but around my neck of the woods no one uses Linux so I have to get my books by ordering on line. Buy something that fits your distro or changeyour distro to match the book. Switch distros later05:24
IcemanV9Don_jr: it'll install much faster than 2X :)05:24
Don_jrI don't have a dvd drive at all on the PC I"m burning with, it's a simple cdrw05:24
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nich0selda, psst... I am a gui-junkie don't give in, but learn it just in case :P05:24
dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: yes, it's an alternate media player, it has the proper codecs for an .avi file05:24
fiendskull9Don_jr: and its 2x?05:24
Don_jrI'm burning the ISO at 2x cause I was told that my last burn at 12x may make the install slower..05:24
WarboMy router doesn't give me an IP via DHCP wirelessly (it does wired), and even if I set a static IP in the right range it refuses to talk05:24
cruddpuppetthank you05:24
haiyaianyone no about azureus05:24
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bruenighaiyai, what is your question05:24
fiendskull9Don_jr: ahhh05:24
EldaI want to learn the command line as it seems you need both in here >.>05:24
tehsuHow can I monitor cpu temp?05:24
rpedroSitouh: one sec, strange that ubotu didn't have the link..05:24
dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: sudo apt-get install mplayer05:24
Don_jrI clicked install and all it did was spin my CD for an hour and a half and nothing ever came up05:24
haiyainat problem05:24
Don_jrso I'm burning at a slower rate now so maybe it'll install faster05:25
nich0sw30, What is your favorite distro? How would I know what distro is right for me?05:25
EldaPlus I like using the dos command line in conjuction with winblows so I think this will make things easier05:25
Eldawell now its just cmd but still05:25
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bruenigelda, command line is a nice tool to use helps in a lot of situations05:25
EldaI am guessing as much05:25
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Don_jrIT's going to take me forever to get dos out of my head and lrean the proper commands in a linux console05:25
rpedroSitouh: read the howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo05:25
haiyainat problem no speed up and down05:25
tehsuanyone05:25
bruenigI never used DOS so I never had that problem05:25
nich0sDon_jr, Man pages are your friends :P05:25
eternalswdcvp that's exactly why I don't have a laptop, though you probably need it for travelling purposes.  you might want to see if you can boot Live and mount the hard drives in there05:25
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Don_jrman pages?05:26
haiyaiwindows box works fine not router05:26
=== bruenig hates people who hate people who refer to MSDOS as DOS
EldaWell dos is a little bit from this from what Ive seen05:26
tehsuWhats a desktop cpu monitor program for linux05:26
qatsidistantbody: are you there ?05:26
EldaAt least cd, and dir are the same xD05:26
tehsugdesktels?05:26
bruenigls instead of dir05:26
Eldadir works too05:26
bruenigor does dir work too05:26
Don_jrmsdos, dos, what ever....it's all dos and most people understand that! lol05:26
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distantbodyqatsi: message send05:26
nich0sDon_jr, In nix, if you don't know what a command does, but you know the command you can type "man etc" and it will tell you everything that you would ever possibly want to know about that command and more.05:26
Eldacp is copy in here right?05:26
bruenigbut ls has colors. only because it is aliased to do so in .bashrc I think so05:27
bruenigthough*05:27
nich0skinda like help, but WAAAY cooler :p05:27
cvpeternalswd: What would success/failure indicate? Would backing up my data and reformatting/installing help, or does this mean that my hard-drive is permanently dead.05:27
WarboDon_jr: I grew up with AmigaDOS, so damn you all :)05:27
distantbodyqatsi: message *sent*05:27
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Eldaokey so its man and the command?05:27
EldaI kept trying to do man --command here05:27
nich0ssi05:27
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nich0s:P05:27
Don_jrhehehe I first started learning to program on basicA05:27
qatsidistantbody: i dont see anything :05:27
IcemanV9tehsu: OR system > admin > system monitor05:27
nich0sman rmdir05:27
lophyteElda: the best way for help is either man <command>, or the --help parameter to the command05:27
dr_willisman man05:27
dr_willis:)05:27
gidimOkay, I need some professional help.05:27
EldaSad, I try to learn linux on my own and I still have to ask a man for help >.>05:27
eternalswdcvp, well if you can mount the drive in Live, you might be able to network your files somewhere and reformat05:27
nich0sman women05:27
Don_jrhaha Elda05:28
Eldabad pun, but yeah >.>05:28
lophyteElda: LOL ;)05:28
nich0sThat is a long standing joke :p05:28
omooreheh.. the funny thing about man.. is it man handles info.. the program nearly everything in man says replaces man.. but how many people actually use info i wonder05:28
distantbodyqatsi: this command will give you the default settings for xorg.comf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"05:28
Don_jrI'm sorry, that has to suck at times05:28
jman8888What am i missing out on in 5.04 (compared to newer) because its working on my old pc(Previously running 2000 came with 98) and i like the fact that in the cd case it says i need at least 32mb ram to run (i have more than enough for that. Although my linux drive is only 4gigs...05:28
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Don_jrbut, remember it stands for Manual, as in do it yourself...05:28
Eldaso is it info or man?05:28
lophyteman05:28
gidimlol05:28
dr_willisinfo info05:28
dr_willis:P05:28
qatsidistantbody: ok, ill try that :) thanks :)05:29
dr_willisinfo is a different set of docs..05:29
lophyteman info? :P05:29
omooreman.. that's what most everyone onthe planet who uses unix uses instead of info05:29
WarboElda: Info is only really used by GNU utilities. Everything else uses man05:29
nich0sman = manual = rtfm = READ THE F*&@ING MANUAL :P05:29
EldaJust did that xD05:29
omoorelol05:29
w30nich0s, I went from Slackware, which was simpler and more in line with command line Linux in the books that I had but it was not really modern. I then switched to RedHat through RedHat 9 and then went to Fedora. Fedora is not to stable because the switch versions too early in my opinion and they make a lot of broken updates. So I switched to Ubuntu about a week before they broke xorg. Ha05:29
fiendskull9im having problems uninstalling the xfonts-artwiz package. it errors out saying the --remove flag isnt reconized05:29
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omooreinfo was supose to be a replacement for man i guess. but doesn't seem to ever have caught on05:29
EldaBah I am tired of the RTFM people.... I DID rtfm and freaking bought a book to try learning it once a long time ago.  IT DIDNT HELP >.>05:29
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:29
lmosherHow does one mount and/or burn a .bin .cue file?05:29
lophytefiendskull9: what are you typing to remove it?05:29
Warbo!info bchunk05:29
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB05:29
EldaThen I tried asking on an irc network for help after RTFM and then they told me to RTFM -_-05:30
nich0sw30, lol, I am looking for a decent distro that I would be able to put on to a laptop.05:30
fiendskull9lophyte: sudo apt-get remove xfonts-artwiz05:30
fiendskull9of course05:30
omoorelmosher, to run a .bin, just set it as executable then run it...05:30
distantbodyCan someone please PRivately help kitsuneofdoom?...05:30
EldaThen I stopped even bothering with linux for about 3 years until I found Ubuntu xD05:30
lmosheromoore, :) .bin .cue05:30
eternalswdtehsu, you should be able to add to a panel System Monitor05:30
Warbolmosher: Use bchunk to convert it to iso05:30
lophytefiendskull9: huh, that's strange05:30
cvpeternalswd: I'm not concerned about backing up my data... I have a dual-boot machine, and I can pull stuff (slowly but surely) from my ext3 partition. I'm more concerned about not having to reformat...05:30
omoorelmosher, chmod +x *.bin ... then .. ./whatever.bin05:30
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dr_willisElda,  its amazing the # of linux help/guides/tutoral sites :)05:30
qatsithank you distantbody, now it works :D05:30
lmosheromoore, lol dude. it's a CD-ROM format05:30
omoorelmosher, i have no .cue  tho05:30
Warboomoore: .bin .cue is a CD image (like .iso)05:30
lophytefiendskull9: can you paste the output to a pastebin?05:30
qatsigood night, and good luck :) (to everyone)05:30
EldaThen I tried breezy badger, couldnt get wireless to work, gave up and tried it again and I got wireless to work and here I am xD05:30
tuvhow can i see the boot messages on boot? i.e. escape the boot splash05:30
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fiendskull9!pastebin05:31
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lmosherWarbo, tks :)05:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:31
distantbodyqatsi: Good to hear05:31
EldaI tried those sites but was still evilly confused05:31
kitsuneofdoomdistantbody: sorry, was I posting too much?05:31
omooreomoore, lmosher , fine! :) i just see alot of software that is .bin that is *not* an image05:31
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EldaAt that time Id been trying to set up the drivers for a ti-4600 so I could use open gl05:31
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Warbotuv: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8 (that is where they are after bootup at least)05:31
eternalswdcvp, I don't have the technical expertise to help you beyond what I've suggested05:31
distantbodykitsuneofdoom: NO, I would just like someone to help you:)05:31
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EldaNo help for that and google didnt even help05:31
fiendskull9lophyte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2152505:31
cvpeternalswd: Thanks!05:31
kitsuneofdoomdistantbody: thanks05:31
relachsHey, i am setting up my HDD for ubuntu, will this work? http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8800/partitionsny7.gif05:32
Eldaheck I even narrowed it down to the cause of needing new drivers by myself >.<05:32
Warboomoore: That is why I hate the culture of filename extensions. @.bin@ describes EVERYTHING on a computer, because it's all binary!05:32
Corporal_DirgeGoogle is really bad at helping with technical issues. There's too much junk info on the web.05:32
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w30Ubuntu seems to be a good compromise between ease of use and available applications on repositories that take care of your dependicy requirements.05:32
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rdzhi all. does somebody has installed oss2jack on dapper? i'd like to know how.....05:32
janbananIf I wan't to install a theme on dapper... should it be GTK 2 or what? it says wrong file-format when I try to install05:32
omooretuv. you can see what the boot messages were using the dmesg command05:33
Don_jrwhat are repositories?05:33
bruenigrelachs, looks good. I like a seperate home and / partition but that works05:33
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bruenig!repos05:33
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:33
eternalswdcvp, you might want to check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32328 once the forums stop timing out05:33
gidimUm, well, I had 64-bit working just fine, then I went and reformatted to install 32-bit so I could run Opera native instead of under WINE, but the install didn't take... it just kind of hung there, so I reboot, drive not recognized, reboot and it is so I wipe the drive clean and try another install... the disc has no errors, it's fine, but for some reason it just doesn't install the OS, so now I have an hda1 that won't take an OS, and I'm05:33
w30nich0s, dependencies05:33
gidimI really need to learn to leave well enough alone.05:33
relachsbruenig ah its you, can i still access D: when i boot windows?05:33
jman8888Is there a hosts.ect for Ubuntu. There is some websites i need to block.05:33
Warbojanbanan: GTK2 is GNOME's toolkit, so if you use GNOME (Ubuntu) then just drag the .tar.gz file into system>preferences>themes, or extract it in $HOME/.themes05:33
cvpeternalswd: Will do. Thanks much.05:33
heyumy ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"05:33
bruenigrelachs, I don't see why not05:33
cvpOn the issue of GNOME vs KDE, which do you guys suggest? I have a friend who is a KDE developer, and he keeps telling me to switch to KDE, but he IS a biased source...05:33
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tuvomoore, i'm having boot problems and would like to see what is causing the problem while booting. i think i got it. booting off sata is broken in recent kernels. i have to use 2.6.15-2305:34
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ElementalDragonhi05:34
dr_williscvp,  i mixx and match the 2. it dont matter to me at all.05:34
AcidfkHi05:34
bruenigwell linus likes KDE so I have to defer to him05:34
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Warbocvp: He is biased toward KDE, and I am biased toward GNOME. It is a preference05:34
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IcemanV9relachs: looks fine, but did you know that install CD can resize winxp partition w/o problem and then create a free space for Ubuntu automaticially. it worked nicely on my box.05:34
prophetcan someone help me with VALKNUT05:34
dr_williscvp,  go old-skool and code in pure xlib goodness! :P05:34
darksoul_how would i get 32bit programs running on a 64bit os? and is opera 64bit out?05:34
gidimI like GNOME, it's nice, I haven't tried KDE yet but the screens just scream Windows to me.05:34
relachsbruenig because ubuntu, swap and d are surrounded by a light blue frame ^_^05:34
WarboI personally use E16 inside GNOME05:35
relachswondering if that seperates it from c:\05:35
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omoorei would like to use ubuntu as my host os.. for work reasons, i must have an environment which will run vmware workstation reliably.. anyone here been running vmware workstation on ubuntu for a long time?05:35
eternalswdcvp, I like gnome since most of my program preferences are gtk based.  I'm sure if they were qt, I would prefer kde05:35
dr_willisgidim,  kde makes windows look like trash. :P05:35
Mixx`dr_willis =)05:35
lophytefiendskull9: looks like the package is broken.. one sec05:35
fiendskull9lophyte: alright05:35
janbananWarbo: well thats exactly what I'm doing. but I get that message all the time05:35
nich0sHow would one go about seeing what KDE would look like?05:35
bruenigrelachs, windows should be able to read extended partitions. To be sure check in ##windows05:35
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omoore(i tried fedora once, but fell back to centos because of updates occasionally breaking vmware beyond what vmware-conf.pl would fix)05:35
distantbodyomoore: long time:no, reliably: yes05:35
fiendskull9nich0s: google05:35
gidimIcemanV9: Can it really? My D or hdb1 is a 300GB storage drive that I'm afraid to resize for fear of losing data.05:35
darksoul_any 64bit users here?05:35
fiendskull9nich0s: lynucs.org has alot of screenshots05:35
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ElementalDragonI'm having a problem booting to the Live CD for Ubuntu 6.06.1 x86 AND x64...... is there a way to install it without booting Live?05:35
gidimdarksoul_: Sort of.05:36
bruenigdarksoul__, chroot or nothing05:36
dr_willisnich0s,  just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and run it instead of gnome when you login. :P05:36
Don_jrSo certain programs will only run in one or the other, KDE or GNOME?05:36
BSG75can someone pls tell me how to turn off my eth0 device?05:36
gidimAMD64, but I have no OS at the moment. ^^;;05:36
tehsueternalswd, nope no where in there05:36
Warbonich0s: kde-look.org ? (maybe without the hyphen, I forget)05:36
dr_willisDon_jr, you can mix and match.05:36
omooredistantbody, have you *ever* had an update break it (as in vmware-config.pl not able to reconfigure for a new kernel)?05:36
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IcemanV9gidim: never try on that large size. the biggest is 100Gb. it works fine.05:36
jman8888I love Ubuntu. It has great internet support. I have it connected to a Usb connected to my modem. And its acctually up on the pc i have for my sister.05:36
darksoul_Can anyone tell me how to get 32bit apps working on 64bit?05:36
dr_willisDon_jr,  may have a few little oddities here and there.. but not many these days05:36
bruenigdarksoul_ chroot05:36
Don_jrthanx05:36
nich0sThanks all fot the answers :P05:36
Warbojman8888: What kind of modem? (I am interested in this sort of thing)05:36
bruenigI am sure there are some tutorials in the forums on how to use chroot05:36
_priestjman8888: not sure why you think its ubuntu itself that has this support05:36
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_priestbut ok05:36
gigais there such thing as an ethernet splitter or kvm switch?05:37
Don_jrI need to know if I have to watch for that.  eings i"m new I don't want to install a program I can't use cause I"m on the wrong desktop...lol05:37
darksoul_chroot?05:37
nich0sand thank you fiendskull9 for reminding why I hate working in association with Earthlinkk :P05:37
gidimdarksoul_: I tried. A lot. I read the how-to's, I just couldn't get them working. I worked for awhile on Opera.05:37
propheti cant connet to a room in valknut cans omeone hlep05:37
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fiendskull9nich0s: what? do you mean not wanting to download kubuntu-desktop and not like it?05:37
gidimSo, now I have a 32-bit and a 64-bit CD to choose from when I want to load a Live CD.05:37
lophytefiendskull9: I'm not exactly sure how to fix that.. have you tried browsing the forums?05:37
cvpprophet: in general, stay away from Vulcans. They're bad news.05:37
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jman8888Surfboard Modem(Motorola) And it works great whitch is amazing because it was hard to get working in 2000, It took me forever.05:37
eternalswdrelachs, your ubuntu partition is a bit small, but I guess it depends on how many programs and how much updating/compiling you plan to do05:37
PulshionHow to set contrast and brightness in ubuntu?05:37
bruenigrelachs, if need be. you should be able to move D: out of the extended partition. As you can have another primary partition05:37
gidimMy hda won't take install for some reason.05:37
darksoul_gidim, right now im looking to see if they have a 64bit opera out.. it not im going to get it working somehow.05:37
jman8888And i had to download so many drivers...05:37
matthew_wHey uh... I'm trying to VNC to a Windows box, ... possible?05:37
distantbody omoore: no. Do you have the correct linux headers, gcc & g++?05:37
prophetwhat else should i use05:37
Warbojman8888: OK, I've never heard of that :)05:37
fiendskull9lophyte: im looking right now, have you noticed an extreme slowness in the ubuntu forums lately?05:37
cvpmatthew_w: Yes.05:38
gidimdarksoul_: No, that was my want too.05:38
nich0sfiendskull9, I'm just messin with ya, google is totally something that they would say. :P05:38
lophytefiendskull9: yeah, its been rather slow lately05:38
dasGewitte1what's the command to compile a file again?05:38
bruenigPulshion, isn't that a monitor thing05:38
nich0sfiendskull9, You made me smile :)05:38
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fiendskull9nich0s: lol05:38
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janbananWarbo: I can install icons whit drag-drop but not themes05:38
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jordanauWarbo, so you can see the router but not connect to it?05:38
Don_jrokay, finally done burning at 2X, let's see if it loads any faster.....05:38
gigaubuntuforums posted an announcement on their homepage about the lowness05:38
w30cvp, Gnome seems to be advancing faster but they are behind KDE in features so they better be faster. Besides Gnome was started because KDE was kind of alof and did things their way. I think Gnome has their ear to the community of Linux users more. At least for the moment.05:38
bruenigPulshion, try clicking the buttons on your monitor and messing around with those menus05:38
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gidimdarksoul_: They have no intention of releasing a 64-bit Opera when the 32-bit one works fine... but it doesn't work fine, not for me, for everybody else it works fine.05:38
haiyaiAzureus??05:38
matthew_wcvp:  well... what the heck should I do?  When I use vncviewer, it just gives me a freeze, because if I don't put the "screen number" it does nothing... afaik, there is no screen number @ windows... confusion?05:38
ElementalDragoncan someone help with my install problem....... preferably in a PM?05:38
Pulshionbruenig -- yea but its all the way up and my monitor is fudged05:38
fiendskull9lophyte: well i hope i can get rid of this package, its disabling me from doing anything, even getting cpan modules!05:38
omooredistantbody, it's not broke .. i'm currently running centos which has been rock solid for it... but i want to move to ubuntu for my host...05:38
bruenigoh05:38
pushpopis there a way to force an install?05:38
Warbojanbanan: Try extracting the archive and putting it in $HOME/.themes (that folder is hidden)05:38
haiyaibruenig do you ponder my problem?05:39
jman8888Warbo, Its a wireless modem but i only have one D-Link. I already was using the ethernet on the back so i went for a risk and Tried ubuntu with the usb connection. And it worked.05:39
nich0sLet's say my computer... is kinda slow... I'm talking p2 technology... which desktop environment is going to be more suited to my lack of hardware?05:39
omooredistantbody, it tried fedora once but an update (even withthe proper header (suposedly) for the runnign kernel broke it05:39
gidimdarksoul_: Hence I tried to install the 32-bit Ubuntu so I wouldn't have the Opera problem... I just failed miserably at it.05:39
cvpmatthew_w: *shrug*05:39
jman8888But where is the hosts.ect in ubuntu?05:39
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fiendskull9nich0s: fluxbox definately05:39
bruenighaiyai, no idea, nat always worked well with me05:39
pushpopIs there a way to force an install ex apt-get install ?05:39
relachsHmm, unfortunetely i dont see a way atm05:39
eternalswdtehsu, try checking again after doing apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
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dr_willisnich0s,  one without lots of eyecandy05:39
cvpmatthew_w: I've had no problems... so I'm not sure I'm equipped to help you out.05:39
bruenigyou may be behind a firewall?05:39
Pulshionbruenig -- my monitor is acting weird and its all the way up, in games like cs, doom3, the dark spots are pitch black and you cant see anything05:39
nich0sdr_willis, I hate candy :p05:39
omooredistantbody, and i just don't want to get into a situation where i have to fall back to 'plan b' again05:39
eternalswdtehsu, * apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
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eternalswdtehsu, * sudo apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
darksoul_why doesn't ubuntu 64 allow 32bit to run without coding? i just dont understand that05:39
gigas_h_a_d_o_w_s on the forums05:39
tehsualready the newst..05:40
Don_jrDoes ubuntu come with a pre-installed firewall?05:40
matthew_wCan anyone point me to a FAQ on VNCing into a windows box?  or tell me what I'm doing wrong?05:40
Warbo!firewall05:40
gidimdarksoul_: It's a matter of the libraries you have installed.05:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)05:40
distantbodyomoore: If it gets broken. just reinstall it, as long as your virtual machines are fine....05:40
jman8888... Now im being ignored...05:40
fiendskull9nich0s: i have quite a few screenshots demonstrating fluxbox (what i use), and it uses about 100mb ram. and occaisonally 1% of my p405:40
PulshionDon_jr -- get firestarter05:40
tehsueternalswd, its, already installed..05:40
fiendskull9nich0s: just the kde wallet system uses 100mb ram :D05:40
UncleOp22matthew_w: have you already looked at the VNC web site?05:40
omooredistantbody, yeah.. i know.. but...05:40
bruenigdarksoul_, it is supposed to be available in edgy, a multiarch system. Do any other OSes have the ability to run both 64 and 32, I am asking because I don't know does windows?05:40
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dr_willisDon_jr,  linux has firewalling fetures built in.. you can install more powerfull config/front ends to the basic firealling features.05:40
Warbojman8888: Do you mean /etc/hosts?05:40
nich0sfiendskull9, Assuming that I know nothing about linux.(period) How would I go about obtaining and replacing my shell05:40
dasGewitte1what's the command to compile a file?05:40
nich0sfiendskull9, ROFL05:40
Don_jrOkay, I've got to get it installed and hope my wireless card works as I've been told it will before I wory about it.05:40
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nich0sfiendskull9, And KDE is out the window for me :P05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  which 'shell' are you refering to?05:41
fiendskull9nich0s: do you have ubuntu installed?05:41
jman8888Warbo, ? Will i be able to block sites like in windows with it?05:41
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fiendskull9dr_willis: he might be using the wrong terminology05:41
nich0sfiendskull9, Yes05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  you using 'shell' in the windows way - meaning the GUI/Desktop?05:41
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prophetanyone?05:41
fiendskull9nich0s: sudo apt-get install fluxbox05:41
omooredistantbody, fedora had a miss-match of theheaders witht he running kernel at one point.. which meant that vmware-config.pl would nver work (even witht he support mod )05:41
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fiendskull9nich0s: then log out to gdm05:41
m0nkeysHI05:41
nich0sdr_willis, The server environment :P (is a gates baby) osrry05:41
darksoul_bruenig, No, i dont think so, i never really tried it on windows, but i would think they would have both librarys installed, just the 64bit as the main one..05:41
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tehsueternalswd, any ideas onw how i can get my cpu and gpu to run cooler and slower in linux?05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  if you have different windowmanagers/dekstops installed the GDM login menu has where you pick what one to use.05:41
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fiendskull9nich0s: select sessions from the options menu in bottom left corner05:41
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UncleOp22matthew_w: http://www.realvnc.com/05:42
Pulshionis there a way to set contrast and brightness using some apps, i used to be able to use catalyst control center in windows how do i do it in ubuntu?05:42
fiendskull9nich0s: and select fluxbox05:42
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jman8888Warbo, ?05:42
matthew_wUncleOp22; Yes; and I'm going over it again now.05:42
omooredistantbody, i ended up having to downgrade the kernel to get vmware back up...05:42
fiendskull9Pulshion: install the ati drivers, and the atitool05:42
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darksoul_Is the ubuntu forums down?05:42
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distantbodyomoore: but if you install the correct header on Ubuntu it will install fine05:42
profoX`Pulshion: ati has a tool to change a few settings on linux..05:42
Don_jrAlso, running ubuntu am I going to need to, or should I, log in and out each use?05:42
profoX`Pulshion: how is it called again..05:42
tehsuDoes anyone know how to get the cpu and gpu to run at a lower mhz at all times?05:42
m0nkeysDoes anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )05:42
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omooredistantbody, right..  i follow...05:42
tuvis there a simple way to show the Home folder icon on the desktop?05:42
profoX`Pulshion: only available if you installed the fglrx drivers though05:42
relachsHmmm, when i tried ubuntu few days ago, i could only enter a WEP key, but i need to setup for WPA i think, or the other way around05:42
emoboyhey...anyone here have time for a quick question05:42
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omooredistantbody, i just wanted to hear from someone using it that things work well05:42
relachsfor WLAN05:42
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PulshionprofoX` -- i have driver installed already05:42
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profoX`Pulshion: then it should be around somewhere :)05:43
omooredistantbody, before i went through the bother of building another host environment05:43
nich0sfiendskull9, gdm??? (nich0s =! moron) returns false alot :P05:43
IcemanV9!ask > emoboy05:43
profoX`Pulshion: fglrx-control05:43
matthew_wWhat would the screen number be for a Windows Box05:43
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UncleOp22matthew_w: when I (rarely) start up my winblows box, I have set VNC to auto-start as a service.  Did you do that already?  It will show up in the system tray.05:43
profoX`Pulshion: i think thats the command05:43
wooya510Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Maybe, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?05:43
matthew_w!ask > matthew_w05:43
MunchkinguyIs it possible to get OpenOffice Draw to do facing pages?05:43
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matthew_wUncleOp22; yes.05:43
fiendskull9nich0s: join the channel #omg real quick, this place is really congested05:43
omooredistantbody, i've used vmware reliably since pre 1.0.. the fedora 5 hickup has been the only time i had a problem05:43
relachsi reboot (see you in ubuntu, i hope *g*)05:43
emoboyanyone have any experience running/installing ubuntu under windows and Parallels Workstation?05:43
PulshionprofoX` -- command not fund05:44
profoX`Pulshion: The control panel shows detailed information on your display adapter and allows you to set dual screen options, adjust gamma correction and set TV out options.05:44
distantbodyomoore: sure. All I can say is that I have had VMWARE player (free) and Server (also free) and the work fine.05:44
UncleOp22matthew_2: don't set a screen number.  Just use the hostname (or IP address)05:44
w30tuv, what window manager are you using?05:44
profoX`Pulshion: slocate fglrx-control05:44
tuvw30, gnome05:44
wooya510Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Perhaps, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?05:44
m0nkeysDoes anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )05:44
matthew_wUncleOp22; then VNC viewer acts as though I didn't put in an IP address.05:44
PulshionprofoX` -- still nothing05:44
matthew_wUncleOp22: and just clears the box05:44
omooredistantbody, k.. i use player on most boxes.. but prefer workstation.. the extrea features are easily worth the cost :)05:44
prophetis there anything else other then valkntu05:44
IcemanV9!ask > wooya51005:44
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profoX`Pulshion: okay that's strange.. try apt-getting it? sudo apt-get install fglrx-control05:44
omooredistantbody, the whole snapshot thing is very sweet05:44
piratepenguinwhat do these messages mean in my dmesg? "ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 1571906" I've got about 20 of 'em05:45
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:45
sizzamfyi - forums are back up05:45
emoboyhow do i install ubuntu under a virtual machine....do i need a partition to install it to?05:45
PulshionprofoX` -- yep, installed it05:45
profoX`Pulshion: otherwise try: fireglconfig05:45
distantbodyomoore: yes, i have had workstation, and snapshoots sure are great...05:45
profoX`Pulshion: or firegl-config fglrxconfig fglrx-config .. one of those05:45
omooredistantbody, not to mention the cloning, video, auto sizing of displays, etc05:45
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PulshionprofoX` -- thats a lot of commands lol05:46
profoX`Pulshion: one of them is the right one :p05:46
omooredistantbody, (creating video, not video cards)05:46
haydenhow do i enable dma on my dvd drive05:46
tehsui still cant find anything for cpu temp05:46
w30tuv click on places in the panel and then  when you see home folder click and drag it to a blank space on the desktop05:46
profoX`IcemanV9: me neither.. lol05:46
tehsugdesktels is crap05:46
omooreemoboy, are you asking about a vmware virtual machine?05:46
IcemanV9tehsu: type "acpi -t" to see the temp05:46
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PulshionprofoX` -- haha none worked05:46
tuvw30, thanks alot.. that was easy.. exactly what i'm looking for!05:47
emoboywell im actually wondering about a parallels VM, but i would assume its a similar process05:47
distantbodyomoore:cloneing = copy & paste :-P05:47
emoboybascially i want to run ubuntu under windows without dual booting05:47
dr_willisemoboy,  qemu can do that.05:47
matthew_wUncleOp22; any idea why it does this?05:47
dr_willisemoboy,  or vmware05:47
omooredistantbody, yeah.. pretty much.. except you can clone a snapshot too05:47
UncleOp22matthew_w: Dumb question: have you gotten VNC to work before?  When I VNC "into" another system from Linux (RH9 - ubuntu someday), I get a box that says, "VNC server:".  When I provide the hostname, it then "clears" that dialog and puts up a new prompt for the VNC password.05:47
profoX`Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/firegl-config05:47
profoX`Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrol05:47
tehsuIcemanV9, how can i check what clock its running at05:47
profoX`I mean05:47
wooya510 There is user who know this debug message about LDAP? - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"05:47
profoX`Pulshion: the last one :) try that05:48
w30tuv, then right click on the folder and go to properties and click on the icon and pick out a house picture :=)05:48
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emoboyhmm well i have a parallels reg key already, so i would like to use that05:48
wubrgamerhey guys05:48
wubrgamerhey guys05:48
matthew_wUncleOp22; Yes, I've had it working Ubuntu to Ubuntu.  Because I go 192.168.1.5:0 for the 0.0 Xserver screen.05:48
IcemanV9tehsu: not sure which command to find out its clock running05:48
emoboywhen using a VM, do you install to the HD first then use the VM to boot that install?05:48
PulshionprofoX` -- odd, is it X11R6 or just X11?05:48
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wubrgamerwhy is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?05:48
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matthew_wUncleOp22: However, to Windows, it goes Vnc Server: and then I punch in the IP, and it just gives me a prompt for the server again.05:48
profoX`Pulshion: X11R605:49
profoX`Pulshion: odd indeed05:49
UncleOp22matthew_w: so try this: in an xterm of your choice, type "vncviewer hostname" and see if it prompts you for a password...05:49
BSG75is there a way to tell ubuntu to not look for my nic at boot?05:49
tuvw30, where do i look for the picture?05:49
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UncleOp22BSG75: um, install debian instead?  :-)05:49
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BSG75I am this close05:49
PulshionprofoX` -- btw in that folder all tehre is is X05:49
profoX`Pulshion: doesnt that work? its from the official manual -- and i remember that that worked on my previous laptop05:50
BSG75it's my wife's puter .. and ubuntu is really good for her05:50
profoX`i run ati radeon 7500 now -- not fglrx05:50
PulshionprofoX` -- where can i get the manual05:50
matthew_wUncleOp22: huhmm... No, just seems to give me copyright info and stop.05:50
eternalswdtehsu, sorry can't help you with heat control and I couldn't turn anything up from the forums05:50
emoboyany ideas :(05:50
BSG75but this no control crap is driving me nuts :(05:50
PulshionprofoX` -- sorry for the hastle05:50
mitype2Hi all I'm new to Linux and having a terrible time getting used to it05:50
profoX`Pulshion: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html05:50
matthew_wUncleOp22:  I don't get why - the computer that is running it is running it, it's in a DMZ, it's all correct...05:50
w30tuv right click on the hom folder icon and then click on properties and then click on the folder picture of that window05:50
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wubrgamerwhy is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?05:50
distantbodyemoboy:please restate question05:51
profoX`Pulshion: newer version: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8.html05:51
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IcemanV9tehsu: i think i found the command -- sudo powernowd -v05:51
emoboywhen using a VM, do you install to the HD partition first (as you usually would) then use the VM to boot that install?05:51
emoboyor is there an easier way05:51
tuvw30, i got that.. but in what folder to i find a house icon file?05:51
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PulshionprofoX` -- where to check what version of drivers i haev installed?05:51
emoboyim talking VM's in general, im actually using parallels05:51
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fiendskull9note to self, never apt-get install linux for fun05:51
fiendskull9hahaha05:51
distantbodyemoboy:install what ? VMWare?05:51
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emoboyi want to install ubuntu05:52
emoboyunder windows using parallels05:52
eternalswdwubrgamer, the 1.5.0.6 update was to fix a regression for windows media plugin, so windows only05:52
UncleOp22matthew_w:  If it's really "all correct", consider going the other way around: windows into ubuntu/linux.  If that works, then you may need to specifically tell the windoze vncserver to allow external connections.  But IIRC, it pretty much "just worked" for me.05:52
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distantbodyemoboy: i'll private message05:52
emoboyso would i install ubuntu from the cd as usual, then boot XP and run the VM05:52
emoboyok thx05:52
matthew_wUncleOp22; the windows to ubuntu one works flawlessly, tried that like an hour ago.05:52
ElementalDragoncan someone please help me out....... prefferably in a PM?05:52
omooreemoboy, for *vmware*.. you create a virtual machine.. a virtual machine consists of a virutal hard drive that will grow to a designated size.. however...05:52
wubrgamerbut there IS a 1.5.0.6 for linux05:52
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omooreemoboy, initially.. the virutal hard drive is *not* partitioned05:53
profoX`Pulshion: wait.. i am wrong ...05:53
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omooreemoboy, it si the job of the os to partition it...05:53
profoX`thats about aticonfig.. thats to configure the drivers and edit xorg -- not to change colors etc05:53
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eternalswdwubrgamer, that's news to me05:53
tehsuIcemanV9, i wonder if i can set it to never go up past a certain level05:53
profoX`stupid ATI05:53
omooreemoboy, so your virtual machine has a virtuarl cpu/hd/cdrom/nic/etc..05:53
UncleOp22matthew_w: Hrm.  OK, lemme' power up the spawn of Redmond.  It will take a couple...05:53
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wubrgamermeybe they just bumped the version number to keep it all on the same track ?05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22: It's ok!05:53
emoboyso i can partition during the install under parallels? and then install to the actual harddrive?05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22: I will go over to the windows box and tinker.05:53
tehsuanyone know about underclocking the ati x700 mobile gpu05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22:  Thanks05:53
omooreemoboy, then you boot the vm, of the cd (cd image) and install the os into the os as you normally would...05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- ahh im so confused now lol05:54
IcemanV9tehsu: not sure .. that's what i am looking for an answer myself. :)05:54
omooreemoboy, but that's vwmare.. i dont' know about parallels05:54
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tehsuk05:54
tehsuty05:54
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profoX`Pulshion: yea me too.. blame ati05:54
distantbodyemoboy: Did you get my message?05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- drivers work fine tho05:54
omooreemoboy, if it works like vm's i've used, yes.. you'd partition during install...05:54
ElementalDragonWhy can't i boot into Ubuntu Live?05:54
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w30tuv, there should be some pictures of icons show up in a window, scroll through the pictures if they show up.05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- i run doom3, cs on high settings no lags whatesoever05:54
emoboyi did not distant...running irc on Opera :(05:54
profoX`Pulshion: nice05:54
omooreemoboy, the ones i have uses only create a virtual hard drive... not a virtual hard drive partition05:54
profoX`i dont know where to find it then05:54
profoX`did you do an slocate05:55
profoX`on euhm05:55
profoX`slocate firegl05:55
profoX`and slocate fglrx05:55
profoX`?05:55
distantbodyemoby: ok.05:55
agibhey, could anyone give me advice: I want to set up an ubuntu LAMP (maybe rails) server and I have a comp sitting around with 2 75GB hdds in it -- what would the best partitioning scheme be?  is software RAID worth it?05:55
omooreemoboy, but again.. i don't even know what parallels is05:55
IcemanV9tehsu: instead of gdesklets, try this one -- multiload_applet (cpu, load avg, mem, net, swap)05:55
distantbodyemoboy: Just use VMWare.05:55
tehsuk05:55
omooreemoboy, i agree with distantbody .. vmware is a really good virtual machine05:55
PulshionprofoX` -- yea i did slocate firegl right now and i got fireglcontrolpanel05:55
BSG75finally :) the damn thing was trying to load Intel 3945 wireless driver ..05:56
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eternalswdwubrgamer, they probably update all of their numbers for every OS even when an update only affects one for file management consistency, but I assure you that 1.5.0.6 for linux is the same as 1.5.0.505:56
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BSG75I am hoping NOW it will load the ndis driver05:56
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ISOLATEDViRuSi have a question, i have all of the dependencies for XGL and Compiz, how do i enable it?05:56
PulshionprofoX` -- it was weird, i restarted the terminal05:56
tehsuIcemanV9, do u know the aptget for it05:56
emoboyok ill try that then05:56
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PulshionprofoX` -- it worked now05:56
emoboythanks guys, ill let you know05:56
profoX`Pulshion: yea lol.. stupid ati ._.05:56
profoX`:P05:56
wooya510I have a problem about LDAP Configuration.05:56
PulshionprofoX` -- stupid me maybe haha05:56
profoX`with their stupid control panel05:56
profoX`being so hidden05:56
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tehsuIcemanV9, have u ever underclocked a gpu05:57
profoX`Pulshion: noo! never blame yourself ;) it's always the proprietary programs that are wrong ;)05:57
PulshionprofoX` -- all i can change in the control panel is gamma05:57
profoX`Pulshion: well..05:57
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profoX`really?05:57
IcemanV9tehsu: i think it is already installed .. and no, i never underclocked gpu before05:57
wooya510There is users who know this debug messages - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"05:57
profoX`i thoughr brightness too05:57
distantbodyemoboy: use VMware Server, its free and you can make new virtual machines withit (as oppose to just the player)05:57
PulshionprofoX` -- it took me a whole night find out why x was crashing and it was because my dad switched the video in cable :(05:57
profoX`Pulshion: cant u just use your monitor to change brightness too?05:58
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tehsui really wanna underclock mine on my laptop, its constantly runing a sucking battery05:58
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KragneracHello, does anybody know how to switch from Xorg to Xair?05:58
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profoX`Kragnerac: what is Xair05:58
PulshionprofoX` -- my monitor is going bad, so i have no clue but everything is dark, even if brightness and contrast are all the way up, in windy i used catalyst to change settings05:58
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ISOLATEDViRuSHow do i enable XGL?05:59
nich0sAll should praise fiendskull9 for he teaches n00bs in a friendly direct and generally awesome manner :)05:59
distantbodyemoboy: (I think he has left ;) Free for Linux, Windows, No Mac version (tho comming very soon)05:59
fiendskull9hehehe05:59
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profoX`ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl05:59
fiendskull9nich0s: you can feel more at home with my fluxbox theme, lol05:59
kitsuneofdoomok, now I realize I hae a new problem. I have a broadcom card, a 4319, and it is extremely sensitive to low signals in Linux, rejecting a lot of things it accepts fine in windows06:00
fiendskull9nich0s: to install themes, you need to put them in ~/.fluxbox/styles/06:00
kitsuneofdoomI even thought it didn't work, until I tried it right next to the router06:00
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fiendskull9nich0s: join #omg again06:00
nich0sfiendskull9, check the other channel for my log :P06:00
eternalswd!xgl06:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:00
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emoboy:) still here...thanks guys ill try it06:01
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x1977xdoes anyone know why i would get this line: "E: Couldn't find package fglrx" when i try to apt-get it?  ("sudo apt-get install fglrx")  i have all the binary repositories checked...06:01
robert_I need to install headers so I can compile gaim-2.0.0-beta3 :/06:01
PulshionprofoX` -- should i update the drivers? i have 8.25.18 installed?06:01
IcemanV9tehsu: wish i knew the answer .. this is definitely on my "to-do" list. i'd like to know how to control its cpu step as well.06:01
UncleOp22did matthew_w of the VNC problem come back?06:01
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kitsuneofdoomx1977x: I think the package is called something else06:01
profoX`Pulshion: not if everything works fine -- unless you REALLY want the newest drivers but then you'll have to install them manually06:01
jman8888Please Awnser me.  Would a pc slow down if upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10?06:01
kitsuneofdoomx1977x: xorg-driver-fglrx or something06:01
PulshionprofoX` -- yea, everything does work fine, but usually the newer the better06:02
profoX`xserver-xorg-fglrx x1977x06:02
profoX`no06:02
profoX`what kitsuneofdoom says06:02
PulshionprofoX` -- in breezy i could not get my drivers to work so i switched bak to windy, now i aint going bak lol06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: I don't believe so, but the latest version is 6.06. it depends on the window manager a lot06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: check out xubuntu 6.0606:02
eternalswdrobert_, I have a source for gaim2 beta three that you can add to sources.lst, but as I recall, you need libc6 from edgy for it to work06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: or use openbox or fluxbox06:03
wooya510Users who know about LDAP configuration help me, plz06:03
thedude45hey, wierd question.. anyone had success running their linux box as a gateway using a wired nic to connect to internet, and wirless to connect to internal network06:03
Don_jrAre there any other nix installs that are only 1 cd?06:03
ElementalDragonprofox: any chance you might be able to be of some assistance to a problem i'm having booting to Ubuntu Live?06:03
thedude45is it even possible06:03
BSG75anyone know where does ubuntu loads it's mods from?06:03
thedude45Don_jr, debian06:03
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profoX`ElementalDragon: which problem06:03
Rusty1Don_jr:  kanotix06:03
profoX`Pulshion: that sucks :P06:03
profoX`Pulshion: i'd say -- buy a new monitor lol06:04
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distantbodyDon_jr: I really hope you get Ubuntu working because its really worth it...06:04
ElementalDragonwell.... with the x86 version, i choose the first option, to boot to Live or install Ubuntu06:04
n1xt3rwooya510: read the man pages and run ldap in debug mode06:04
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ElementalDragonit get's to the Ubuntu loading screen, where it loads everything it needs to run off the Live CD....06:04
wooya510n1xt3r, //i did it06:04
tehsuIcemanV9, i would really like to control the step and the gpu clock and ill be staying on ubuntu for my laptop06:04
ElementalDragonthen it comes to the black screen with a blinking underscore cursor in the top left corner, the cursor blinks a couple times, then stops06:04
UncleOp22Don-jr: knoppix, too, I think.  Then there's DSL (Damned Small Linux)06:04
tehsutill then back to windows06:04
PulshionprofoX` -- have to wait till my bday, but i wanna play some doom lol...just looking for a solution since i had this monitor for so long and played games fine in windy with my custom setting in catalyst06:04
wooya510n1xt3r, i did it06:04
Don_jrI'm workin on it still, I booted the computerand it was setting up ubuntu and came back downstairs and the computer was shut off06:05
profoX`Pulshion: well -- that sucks :P06:05
SlaSheR84how come my ubuntu server cd boots once then never again?06:05
profoX`Pulshion: i know you can change brightness in nvidia fine..06:05
profoX`havent run an ati in a while06:05
PulshionprofoX` -- darn ati06:05
x1977xsynaptic says i have "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" already, and i got the same error with "xserver-xorg-fglrx"..any thoughts?06:06
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IcemanV9tehsu: sorry about that, but keep googling for holy grail answer. (i'll do the same for myself)06:06
Don_jrdistantbody If linux is so compatible, what would be the difference in getting one over the other?  wouldn't most things that work in red hat work in ubuntu and in debian aswell?06:06
wooya510n1xt3r: "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" you know this debug message?06:06
tehsuyeah06:06
PulshionprofoX` -- is this the only control panel they got?06:06
ElementalDragonprofox:  want me to just PM you with the issue i'm having?06:06
ElementalDragoneasier to keep track that way06:06
profoX`ElementalDragon: if you think i am the right person to ask -- yes06:07
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, So even though 5.04 says it needs 32mb ! It will run the same as 5.10 or 6.06?06:07
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profoX`Pulshion: i think so.. maybe theres an other one that can change brightness but i dont know where you would be able to get it :)06:07
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Don_jrI"m having the ubuntu boot check the CD for errors then will try and install again if it's all clear06:07
sivaniconHow do i get the rest of my monitors resolutions to come up?06:07
Don_jrOMG, there's exe files on this?06:08
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy?06:08
Don_jrI didn't think nix systems used .exe files06:08
n1xt3rn1xt3r: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?06:08
PulshionprofoX` -- ok thanx for the help anyway, and you said i can set dual monitors, tv out/in in the control panel, where at?06:08
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, ? Can i feel safe upgrading06:08
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: what you want to do is a server install. That will just install the base packages, and a text interface. Then you just get openbox06:08
distantbodyDon_jr: Each distro focuses on different aspects06:08
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kitsuneofdoomjman8888: or keep just the text interface if you want06:09
Don_jrokay, but theoretically, you could add anything to one that you could another right?06:09
supernixWelp I am now running Gnome so I am now semi ubuntu06:09
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy in linux?06:09
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Don_jrso it's only a matter of getting the most from the original install?06:09
supernixI still like my kubuntu though06:09
jrsimsanyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?06:09
Don_jrso there's less to get later06:09
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profoX`Pulshion: tv out -- somewhere -- about dual monitors im not sure, but you can do that with aticonfig for sure (that will edit xorg.conf iirc)06:09
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profoX`its been awhile since i ran ati fglrx:)06:10
distantbodyDon_jr: yes, but sometimes it's more hassle than its worth06:10
PulshionprofoX` -- there is no gui to set that up? i have my xorg edited right now06:10
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Don_jrSo Ubuntu, in your oppinion, is the most compatible for new users then?06:10
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distantbodyDon_jr: and you might as just well install that different distro...06:10
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distantbodyDon_jr:Yes06:11
kerwonzhi i need some help, i ready installed ubuntu dapper, but i cant load windows :( i dont know how to do this... what can i do?06:11
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Don_jrOkay, I'll stick with trying, and if it doesn't work out...I'll order the CD from them....heh06:11
tjcarterhm, ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning, "we like brown, so shush!"06:11
profoX`Pulshion: i don't think so06:11
IcemanV9jman8888: this thread might help ya -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224723&highlight=install+small+ram06:11
tjcarterhey chalcedony06:11
IcemanV9tjcarter: lol06:11
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy in linux, anyone?06:11
profoX`kerwonz: sudo fdisk -l -- post output on www.pastebin.ca06:12
profoX`kerwonz: you mean you can't boot windows anymore, right?06:12
Don_jrI sat here for almost an hour and a half waiting for this to install and nothing....re burned the CD.  This is a pain06:12
kerwonzprofoX, yes06:12
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Don_jrbut if it works, will be well worth it06:12
tjcarterIcemanV9: according to feh (other network), it may also mean "Can't install Debian", "Sick of compiling Gentoo", or "My friends will laugh at me if I buy a Mac"...06:12
IcemanV9Don_jr: did you md5sum the CD?06:12
Don_jrget me away from microsoft is all I care...lol06:13
profoX`kerwonz: do you know how to open a terminal window?06:13
kerwonzprofoX: http://pastebin.ca/14712406:13
_relachsbi need help with assigning Mountpoints to Partitions06:13
distantbodyDon_jr: It may be the disc drive/laser...06:13
Don_jrno, not sure exactly what that means or how to us eit06:13
profoX`kerwonz: ok wait06:13
kerwonzprofoX: yes i know.06:13
Don_jrthe cd has run anything else I"ve ever put in it06:13
Don_jrthe cdrom that is06:13
IcemanV9Don_jr: it'll check if CD is ok or not06:13
kerwonzso i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault06:13
w30XxXBrAnDoNXxX, at the cooam line type mkboot06:13
tjcarterIcemanV9: or maybe it just means, "It's sure nice to have a dist that actually works."06:13
Don_jrokay, getting GUI now, we're moving along this time06:13
kerwonzprofoX: so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault but doesnt works :(06:13
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IcemanV9tjcarter: :)06:14
w30XxXBrAnDoNXxX, maybe better type mkboot -help06:14
Don_jrno errors durring the load sequence06:14
profoX`kerwonz: now type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    -- and copy that file to www.pastebin.ca -- and I'll tell you if somethings wrong and/or if you have to change something06:14
XxXBrAnDoNXxXw30 thanx06:14
distantbodyDon_jr: That sounds positive:)06:14
profoX`(hd0,4) should be right though06:14
jrsimsanyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?06:14
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, No the acctual Cd Case (from shipit) said it needs 32 mb ram (but i have 128 so i should be ok with 5.10) i dont think i can handle 6.06... (How can i upgrade from a Cd.06:14
Don_jrit's gone this far once before, I had it runnin on live CD properly06:14
IcemanV9Don_jr: we're behind ya! :)06:14
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kontikiHi - What sw lets me view the bash terminal sessions in real time, for people logged into my box? (laptop)06:15
Don_jrthen when I clicked install, I sat here for an hour and a half with nothing to show me it was doing anything......and was suggested I reburn the ISO at a slower speed and it might speed up the install process06:15
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: I'm not impressed that greater versions mean greater ram consumption neccesarily06:15
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kitsuneofdoom128 should be fine with 6.06 server install06:15
kerwonzprofoX: oks06:15
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: sorry, see two above06:15
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Don_jrgaim is compatible with MSN correct? and there's an IRC client built into ubuntu?06:16
tjcarterthe gooey thing on the CD..  Is that isolinux or some really abused GRUB?  Anyway, if I leave it running for a few seconds, it locks.06:16
kitsuneofdoomDon_jr: I think there's one in gaim06:16
distantbodyDon_jr gaim is preinstalled06:16
sapakidoes any of you know what this is:06:16
Don_jras long as both of those are true with firefox, it'll do everything I want it to.06:16
n1xt3rwooya510: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?06:16
tjcarteranything I can do within 10 seconds to get it the hell out of that gooey will cause the system to work fine.06:16
IcemanV9jman8888: i have installed dapper flight x on 128mb box before it dies without any problem.06:16
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kerwonzprofoX: http://pastebin.ca/14712506:16
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, But its a gnome install. Works great and fast with 5.04 so i just want to know how to use the cd to upgrade.06:16
tjcarterI think it's the shared mem06:16
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jman8888IcemanV9, Dapper flight06:17
sapakilinux source tree make is incomplete or missing!           S06:17
jman8888?06:17
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Don_jrif I like it on my laptop enough I'll check this computer i"m on now and make sure all the hardware will take and I'll run it here too06:17
Don_jronly 2 things I worry about here are my wireless USB networking stuff and my vid card06:17
distantbodyDon_jr: You should have daul booted it on your faster computer!:-/06:18
IcemanV9jman8888: before the official release, i used dapper flight back in spring/early summer before my box died 5 months ago.06:18
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Hobbseegot him :)06:18
Don_jrI'm not sure I trust myself to do that properly and I didn't want to screw up my good one till I knew what I was doing.06:18
jman8888?06:18
Agrajag-gday, i've put a dapper cd in a breezy machine, edited the sources.list to only have this line: "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" however an apt-get update doesn't seem to actually do anything - it seems as if it doens't think i have the dapper cd mounted. how can i fix this?06:18
torpedo|dogMany thanks, Hobbsee :)06:18
kerwonzprofoX: you can see that?06:18
w30kontiki, typing users at the commanc line will tell you the names of the users logged in and how many times by repeating their username but it don't give any thing more06:18
HellDragonwtf06:18
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jman8888!ubotu upgrade06:18
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.06:18
profoX`Hobbsee: he's going around everywhere -- he did it 3x on ##linux06:19
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Don_jrand knowing now that my wireless isn't supported directly by Ubuntu I woulnd't be able to get online with this one if I dual booted it06:19
cynicallol who would use tor to spam the channel?....06:19
Kragnerac!ubotu AIGLX06:19
cynicalthats retarded06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about AIGLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
profoX`kerwonz: yea one quick note..06:19
HellDragoncynical: kinda06:19
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profoX`kerwonz: never put something like that between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS tags06:19
Agrajag-jman8888: if that was for me, it's not helping as i don't have access to synaptic.06:19
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pharglewho still uses wireless06:19
cynicalhelldragon: I mean honestly, its not like hes going to accomplish anything06:19
SlaSheR84should i use alcohol 120% to burn ubuntu server or something else06:19
distantbodyDon_jr: Well, it's competely automagical and it wond harm your windows(?) install...06:19
cynicalphargle: I do06:19
HellDragoncynical: thats sick06:19
Don_jrOkay Live CD is up and running.06:20
xepherphargle: i do06:20
profoX`kerwonz: put the block with windows BEFORE: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST06:20
kontikiw30: thx, but I want to view a copy of their bash session in real time - any idea how to do that, or what irc channel to ask that on?06:20
HobbseeprofoX`: we cant really do much about it, except for block tor06:20
profoX`kerwonz: otherwise you'll lose that entry in grub with a new kernel update06:20
torpedo|dogSlaSheR84: any CD burner software will work, so long as it can burn .iso06:20
profoX`Hobbsee: i know06:20
Don_jrbut I woulnd't be able to be on here and chat while I was installing and get help either06:20
Agrajag-jman8888: also i want to use the cd, not use http. doing it with http works.06:20
profoX`Hobbsee: i just don't get what's supposed to be so funny/amusing about it ._.06:20
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cynicalHobbsee: its sad that you have to resort to that.  I dont really see why anyone would want to waste their time doing it..06:21
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profoX`how can someone have fun with that06:21
Don_jrCDrom is still buzzin, I'm not clickin install till it's done06:21
Hobbseecynical: true that.  they've only recently been unbanned, too06:21
HobbseeprofoX`: exactly06:21
tjcarterThis thing is becoming an UbunTV  =D06:21
kerwonzprofoX`, yes, but when i try boot i cant do that, maybe can fix that?06:21
jman8888Agrajag, I used the cd before. I just added the cd and did what ubotu said to do. It can be done in nao...06:21
jman8888nano06:21
profoX`kerwonz: wait..06:21
UncleOp22If "matthew_w" of the VNC problems returns, tell him to look in the pastebox and search for his moniker.06:21
distantbodyDon_jr: just as long as you have at least one good install:)06:21
w30kontiki, looking at the logs should show more (/var/log)06:21
nich0sls06:21
Don_jrnow there's an error. AOFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet".  there's a problem loading that.  do I want to delete the applet from my configuration??06:22
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Don_jrit's asking me to delete or not06:23
BSG75haha you need to blacklist bcm43xx and it doesn't load the free driver ... THEN you can use ndis driver ... what a pain06:23
kerwonzprofoX`, okey06:23
distantbodyDon_jr: No...06:23
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Don_jrok06:23
Agrajag-so why wouldn't apt-get realise i have a dapper cd mounted and to use the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" line in my sources.list?06:23
Don_jrI"m hopeing it will install this time.  I've been trying all day to download a version of nix to install, this is the first one that's gotten this far up to this point....06:24
Don_jrcd is done buzzin, do I need to do anything before I click 'install'?06:24
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distantbodyDon_jr: What are the other buttons?06:24
nich0sYES!06:24
Don_jronly 2 are on the desktop, examples and install06:24
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distantbodyDon_jr: yes, install:)06:25
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Don_jrthere are other things in the....being a windows fool I only know to call it a taskbar at the top of the screen, applications, places, system and a globe and what looks liek probably e-mail06:25
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Don_jrokay, just install now06:25
EldaYeee finally back online06:25
xnull-heya anybody using  edgy (development branch)  ?06:25
nich0sElda, Welcome back06:25
Don_jrpray for me....I"ll need it! lol06:25
EldaI hate having to leech off of someone elses internet >.<06:25
nich0sDon_jr, Dominus et espirio santi or somthing06:26
distantbodyDon_jr: There all the programs that you can use off of the live cd, so it isnt actually installed anything yet...06:26
EldaThe cable people are coming soon to hook up our internet/tv though so it will be nifty xd06:26
profoX`kerwonz: maybe rootnoverify works better ?06:26
Don_jrshould anything come on the screen when install begins?06:26
EldaxD06:26
kerwonzprofoX`: letme try, brb06:26
distantbodyDon_jr: yes:language options06:26
IcemanV9Elda: you'll love it when it is installed. :)06:27
Don_jrsheesh, last time I hit install it did nothing for an hour..if I'd have known that I wouldn't have sat and waited like that....lol06:27
distantbodyDon_jr: Then time zone (with a pretty map)06:27
nich0sDon_jr, There should be a flashing epileptic light with a thunderous voice telling you about the benefits of AOL and MICROSOFT :P06:27
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profoX`kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 (oh hes gone-06:27
Don_jraol sux worse than microsoft06:27
nich0sthen nix is the os for you06:27
nich0s06:27
nich0s:p06:27
nich0sand I agre06:27
nich0se06:27
distantbodynich0s::-D06:27
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nich0sdistantbody, :))06:27
Don_jrI'm sick of the microsoft monopoly, that's why I want to try a nix system.06:28
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Don_jrI have seen from being here today that I've got alot to learn before I will drop windows completely, but i"m starting the transition, that's a pluss for me eh? lol06:28
nich0sDon_jr, Microsoft owns the game Monopoly?!?  The world is ending (btw.. this is a joke, I'm not completely stupid)06:28
Don_jrokay, disk is going crazy, nothing on screen yet......06:29
w30nich0s, yours did that too?06:29
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lophytenich0s: I have a t-shirt that has the monopoly logo on it, only it says "Microsoft" and has bill gates instead of uncle pennybags or whatever his name is06:29
lophyte:D06:29
nich0sDon_jr, Believe it or not, I probably know less than you about nix. I just sit here an make smart comments about it until i pass out or have to leave :P06:29
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nich0slophyte, AWESOME!06:29
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nich0sw30, Yeah... spyware?06:30
nich0shehe :P06:30
Don_jrnich0s lol :-d06:30
nich0sfor example: how to I unzip a tarball from the terminal.06:30
w30nich0s, go to Wal Mart and by a Game Cube for 45 bucks for gaming. Computers are for computing.06:30
distantbodyDon_jr: Basically it sounds like you've got a slow cd-drive/hdd/cpu combo (i.e. a slow computer).06:30
Don_jrI dont even know what that means nich0s a tarball???06:31
nich0szip file.06:31
PMantis"Setting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ..."06:31
tonyyarussonich0s: You give a good idea though ... a reworked version of the game where all of the "properties" are companies that have had monopoly lawsuit trouble (MS, Carnagie, Alcoa, etc.)  Could be cool.  </ot>06:31
PMantisI see that every time I run apt-get...06:31
UncleOp22If I have some spiffy partitions from a RedHat install, will the ubuntu installer want to blow them away and resize, or will it work with what it has?06:31
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nich0sw30, i hate comp games... cept tron... tron rox06:32
KanRiNiNHi guys.  I have too many options in Grub, I used to know what to uninstall using apt to get rid of them, but I've forgotten after a few months in Europe.06:32
lophytetonyyarusso: I was thinking each property would be one of the many companies that Microsoft has "acquired"06:32
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kerwonzprofoX`: doesnt works, says unknow filepartition type 0x... etc.. :(06:32
wweaselUncleOp22: Depends what you choose. You can manually partition, or tell it to use the largest body of freespace.06:32
profoX`kerwonz: o_O06:32
nich0stonyyarusso, We could make billions!  and then get sued for copyright infringment and monopolistic practices (ironic) :P06:32
profoX`kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 < thats how it's supposed to look like06:32
fdsdHey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?06:32
wweaselUncleOp22: If you want to keep old partitions, don't tell it to erase all and use the whole disk.06:32
tonyyarussolophyte: Another option.06:32
kerwonzprofoX`: ok, let me see06:32
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profoX`kerwonz: if that doesnt work, try changing rootnoverify to root again..06:32
w30nich0s, only computer game I ever liked was pong. anything else was to advanced for me06:32
Don_jrSo I just need to sit here and wait for something to happen then?06:32
ScreaminIkeif i installed moinmoin-common from apt... and i have apache2 and mod-perl... where is my wiki? 127.0.0.1/moinmoin ?06:32
wweaselKanRiNiN: I'm guessing you want to uninstall your old kernels?06:33
profoX`kerwonz: maybe the order of things is important -- im not sure -- i put it officially how it needs to be06:33
nich0sw30, I have the reflexes of a drunken sloth and the keying ability of a toddler with a plastic hammer06:33
profoX`kerwonz: and i put it above the automagic kernels list -- otherwise it will disappear after a kernel update06:33
npodgesdon_jr, still having wireless problems?06:33
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kid3can anyone tell me why i got this error: http://channels.debian.net/paste/353906:33
KanRiNiNwweasel: yes.06:33
distantbodyUncleOp22: It will probably just use the the biggest amount of unpartitioned space06:33
Don_jrnope, can't get it to install to find out if I'll have a wireless problem, but I went and bought a card that I was told should be compatible just in case06:33
KanRiNiNare they the linux header packages?06:33
fdsdHey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?06:34
UncleOp22wweasel: OK - will it ask me where to put /, /usr, /home, etc?  Current table has / at about 350MB, /usr at about 3.5GB, and /home at about 4GB.06:34
kerwonzprofoX`: oks06:34
kevin_anyone know how to fix this: got xgl/compiz installed, ooo-ed and aah-ed for about 5 minutes when xgl told me "ok go away now" and it tossed me back to the login screen, xgl is now broken no effects and no window borders06:34
w30nich0s, yeah, in ROTC I couldn't even salute right so I know what you mean.06:34
wweaselkanrinin: they'll be listed under linux-image06:34
kevin_oh yeah, and gnome and ati-- and dapper06:34
ScreaminIkekid3, i'm not an expert, but i think you need to get your kernel source, drop it into the directory where they say it's NOT....06:34
ScreaminIkeand try again06:35
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npodgeskevin_: is xgl still running?06:35
npodgesjust not compiz06:35
kerwonzprofoX`: let me see.. jeje brb, reboot06:35
profoX`kerwonz: sata drive?06:35
UncleOp22distantbody: all 8GB are currently allocated.  I don't care about / or /usr all that much.06:35
profoX`kerwonz: ok bye..06:35
nich0sw30, They say that I would type close to 200 wpm if I didn't have to keep going back for typos :P06:35
wweaselkanrinin: Just uninstall the one(s) with the oldest version number06:35
kerwonzprofoX`: yes its sata06:35
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fdsdHey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?06:35
distantbodyKanRiNiN: just edit the Grub file06:35
Don_jrno more annoying popups with firefox in nix right??? (prays he's right)06:35
npodgesfdsd, do a server install06:35
kerwonzprofoX`: it's sata drive, its the problem?06:35
wweaselUncleOp22: Yes, if you choose to do it manually it will ask you everything.06:35
kevin_i can login to it, but there are no effects, everythings dog slow, and no window borders06:35
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fdsdnpodges, cant06:35
nich0shehe06:35
ScreaminIkeif i installed moinmoin-common from apt... and i have apache2 and mod-perl... where is my wiki? 127.0.0.1/moinmoin ?06:35
distantbodyUncleOp22: so you want to delete the previous version of linux?06:35
Don_jrwhat was that for?? lol  am I wrong?06:35
npodgessudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then, fdsf06:36
pitfallskid3, did u install build-essential?06:36
kid3ScreaminIke: what do you mean?06:36
profoX`kerwonz: im not sure06:36
UncleOp22distantbody: yeah, I'm finally leaving RedHat 9.06:36
kid3pitfalls:  build-essential is already the newest version.06:36
kid3yup06:36
profoX`kerwonz: try reboot :) i'll google06:36
nich0sDon_jr, it is still firefox... there is no difference, save for that it is for linux06:36
wweaselDon_Jr: well, depends. If a website has pop-ups on it, yes, you'll get pop-ups.06:36
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kerwonzoks06:36
kerwonzbrb06:36
wweaselDon_Jr: But you won't have spyware launching pop-ups randomly06:36
distantbodyDon_jr: Well, no more annoying popups in *any* version of 'fox with the right extensions installed06:36
Don_jrI've never used firefox in windows either06:37
ScreaminIkekid3, go with pitfalls.06:37
nich0sDon_jr, Until they get around to writing them :P06:37
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nich0sDon_jr, Tell me you weren't using ie606:37
Don_jryep06:37
nich0sDon_jr, I don't even care if you lie to me..06:37
Don_jrthat's all I've got on this computer right now06:37
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UncleOp22wweasel: thanks; that's what i wanted to hear.  Related question: how much does debian/u want to stuff into the root partition, vs. heading over to /usr?  And what about /opt?06:37
nich0srofl06:37
kid3pitfalls: ?06:37
Don_jrI probably deserve that one! lol06:37
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distantbodyUncleOp22: Well delete the RedHat partitions06:37
npodgeswhen i try to open synaptic, i get "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:38
npodges"06:38
wweaselnich0s: don't be rude. give him credit for wanting to switch06:38
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nich0swweasel, lol, we're just messin around :P06:38
wweaselUncleOp22: Sorry, I'm off to bed. It seems like distantbody might be able to help.06:38
wweaselgood night to you all.06:38
Don_jrif I thought my belkin wireless usb would be read in Ubuntu I'd try and dual boot this machine out of shear frustration that my other one won't load it!!!!06:38
nich0speace06:38
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JbirkHi06:39
Don_jrwweasel we're just goofin off, it's cool06:39
JbirkI typed $man woman06:39
JbirkNo manual entry for women06:39
JbirkWhat is wrong?06:39
nich0sDon_jr,  He's out of here :P06:39
distantbodyUncleOp22: Remove the RedHat partitions then, and Ubuntu will reasign the empty space into the partitions that it needs06:39
npodgesanyone have any ideas for this: when i try to open synaptic, i get "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" and it doesnt open06:39
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ScreaminIkejbirk, have you been reading up on thinkgeek shirts?06:39
Don_jrstill nothing but disk buzzing......this is frustrating06:39
WarboGreat. I decide to give up on the Wifi, and now X doesn't work (it doesn't seem to be the update bug either)06:39
UncleOp22distantbody: not sure that they are contiguous.06:39
distantbodyUncleOp22:06:39
distantbodyUncleOp22:06:39
arm_what did i do if suddenly compiz shows pure white desktops?06:39
pitfallskid3: never had to do such things - was an idea06:40
UncleOp22distantbody: care to repeat?  Just saw my name twice.06:40
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pitfallsinstall the kernel headers06:40
kerwonzprofoX`: doesnt works say the same :(06:40
JbirkNo, what is there for think geek?06:41
distantbodyUncleOp22: yeah, sorry, my little error, see below06:41
kid3pitfalls: what?06:41
WarboWhat does it mean when Xorg cannot find "bitmap" and "pcidata"06:41
profoX`kerwonz: darn.. let me google sata/grub06:41
Don_jrwhat is xorg?06:41
kid3!xorg06:41
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:41
kerwonzprofoX`: oks06:41
kid3pitfalls: what the fuck are you talking about?06:41
nich0sCome on, someone ask something easy, like... what is a gui... :P06:41
distantbodyRemove all the partions that RedHat created06:42
profoX`nich0s: what is a cli06:42
npodgesnich0s, what is a gui?06:42
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Warbo!cli06:42
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:42
npodgesnich0s what is the internet06:42
Don_jrOkay, is there a way to stop the install process where it's at??06:42
ScreaminIkeprofox, it's spelled cli_t_06:42
nich0snpodges,  A Graphical User Interface... NEXT06:42
npodgesxD06:42
npodgesgj!06:42
nich0snpodges, I hate you... NEXT06:42
Don_jrlike ctrl+alt+del in XP? lol06:42
distantbodyi,m a bit busy for the next two minutes06:43
npodgesDon_jr: the power button?06:43
Don_jrcli is command line interface....I think06:43
WarboGlad I started such a deep debate, but can I get some help with Xorg please? I am feeling very awkward in ircII06:43
nich0sprofoX`, one letter away from being disgusting :P06:43
tonyyarussoYes06:43
EldaIs there a ctrl+alt+del in here? o.O06:43
UncleOp22distantbody: s'ok.  thanks for the comments.  g'night.06:43
internatso i have 2 soundcards apparently in my system, its classing the tv card which has a sound output as a device, and the normal one, and for some reason yet another one is showing up as well.. how do i configure it to use the right one?06:43
EldaDidnt think there was06:43
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npodgeswarbo what is your problem?06:43
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ScreaminIkeelda, ctrl+alt+bkspc will kill x06:44
PyroManiakanyone know why sometimes linux scrolls fluid using the up/down keys, and sometimes it requires me to hit the key for each advance up/down?06:44
profoX`nich0s: o_O06:44
npodgesrestart x*06:44
nich0sElda, from command line, it send term :P06:44
nich0sprofoX`,  rofl :p06:44
pitfallskid3: what ubuntu are u using, seems like the kernel is not in the dapper repos06:44
Eldaah06:44
pitfallskid3: what ubuntu are u using, seems like the kernel is not in the dapper repos06:44
pitfallsups06:44
Don_jrokay, is thre an older version of something that might load a bit faster on this slow laptop of mine?? lmao this is a bit retarded, even XP loaded faster than this06:45
ScreaminIkeand i know it will get me flamed, but using automatix, you can make ctrl+alt+del bring up the "task manager"06:45
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Warbonpodges: I can't start X, and the erros given are that it can't find the modules "bitmap" and "pcidata"06:45
PyroManiakElda: you can map to ctrl+alt+del for a process window like I did06:45
distantbodyi;m back06:45
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EldaHmm may try that later06:45
ScreaminIkebeatcha to the punch, pyromaniak :)06:45
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WarboscreaminIke: You mean gnome-system-monitor06:45
ScreaminIkeanyone know anything about running moinmoin?06:46
ScreaminIkei sure do, warbo06:46
Eldamoin moin? o.o06:46
PyroManiakScreaminIke: lol... I did it by hand though.. didn't know automatrix did that.. lol06:46
_relachsHi again, after installing ubuntu, i rebooted, grub doesn't have windows included so it automatically boots linux, what now?06:46
npodgesyou mean like automatix did06:46
ScreaminIkenotice how the win32 version was in quates06:46
Warbo!grub06:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:46
distantbodyA GUI (Graphical User Interface) and A CLI(Command Line Interface) are to was of doing the same thing: interacting with the computer06:47
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WarboI'd like some more eyecandy for my CLI though06:47
ScreaminIkeone is built for speed, the otherone looks pretty06:47
_relachswait, do i have to press ESC to choose to boot windows?06:47
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profoX`kerwonz: 1 tip though, if you want to test without rebooting all the time, you can type the letter C and then you get a command line interface where you can type like:06:47
distantbodyTechnically they are both called "shells"06:47
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profoX`root (hd0,4)06:48
Don_jrif you need a compiler to recognize a programming language and make it work, then how do you make the compiler?06:48
ScreaminIkewarbo, install the old hoary caledar packages and make yrou console transparent06:48
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ScreaminIkeeye candy, indeed06:48
profoX`etc.... and then end with: boot06:48
Warbodon_jr: Same way you "boot" a computer06:48
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kerwonzprofoX`: ohh thanks06:48
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kerwonzprofoX`:06:48
kerwonzgrub> root (hd0,4)06:48
kerwonz Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x706:48
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kerwonz:o06:49
kerwonzworks with rootnoverify06:49
darksoul_How do i detect my FPS in a game like starcraft?06:49
profoX`kerwonz: did you install windows on that partition or move it thee?06:49
profoX`there06:49
Don_jrshould the live CD recognize my wireless card the same as if I outright installed it?06:49
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profoX`on /dev/hda506:49
ScreaminIkelol06:49
w30Warbo, try this for eyecandy an the cli     echo -e "\33] P0006600\33] P7FF9900"06:49
kerwonzits /dev/sda506:49
profoX`kerwonz: does it work now?06:49
Warbodon_jr: The "boot" (sometimes called "boostrapping") means "pulling oneself up by the bootstraps", and basically means using a chain of ever-more complicated methods to get into something useful06:49
ScreaminIker u playing starcraft in 'buntu?06:49
kerwonzlook06:49
kerwonzgrub> rootnoverify (hd0,4)06:49
kerwonzgrub>06:49
darksoul_yes06:49
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ScreaminIkehow?!06:49
profoX`kerwonz: ok.. and then..06:49
darksoul_..wine06:49
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w30Warbo, echo -e "\33] R" to change it back06:50
ScreaminIkei would DESTROY my win32 drive if i had that game running in buntu06:50
ScreaminIkewine confuses me06:50
npodgeswhat game?06:50
ScreaminIkenever got the hang of it06:50
profoX`kerwonz: makeactive06:50
profoX`kerwonz: chainloader +106:50
darksoul_wine is easy as hell06:50
kerwonzmakeactive doesnt works :P06:50
profoX`kerwonz: ._.06:50
profoX`kerwonz: what does it say06:50
darksoul_its only when you get to the games that DONT want to run its a pain06:50
npodgeswhat game did you want, ScreaminIke06:50
ScreaminIkemy copy is... of questionable legality....06:50
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kerwonzonly title, rootnoverify, savedefault and chainloader +106:50
Sarra_If I load the PowerNow software in Ubuntu on an Opteron, will it still work? Or is there a seperate module for the Cool 'n Quiet feature built into my motherboard?06:50
ScreaminIkestarcraft06:50
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Warbow30: I don't want to break my terminal since I haven't got any graphics (besides, your text has now gone off screen)06:50
Don_jrshould the live CD OS recognize my wireless card the same as if I had ubuntu outright installed?06:50
distantbodyDon_jr: There are many different wireless cards, the most popular ones are supported06:50
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w30Warbo, try this for eyecandy an the cli     echo -e "\33] P0006600\33] P7FF9900"06:50
w30Warbo, echo -e "\33] R" to change it back06:50
npodgesi have warcraft 3 working, never tried starcraft06:51
kerwonzgrub> makeactive06:51
kerwonzError 12: Invalid device requested06:51
w30Warbo, just colors06:51
ScreaminIkeever? even in win32?06:51
Don_jrI've been told that the one I bought today is supported, will the live CD version recognize it06:51
darksoul_npodges, how would i detect my FPS then06:51
WarboI can't be bothered to type that out. What is that program which gives the consoles a mouse "pointer"06:51
Warbo?06:51
Gumbyanyone know how to stop this...  I'd like to unmount a partition but it keeps saying that the device is busy.  lsof |grep mount_point tells me that "hald-addo  4699  haldaemon  mem       REG        3,1   10576     525102 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage" is using the mount point/device.  anyone know a way around this?06:51
jpjacobsnpodges, i tried starcraft but didn't get sound06:51
distantbodyDon_jr: Who told you that?06:51
Don_jra couple people in here earlier did06:51
tonyyarussoWarbo: gpm06:51
profoX`kerwonz: where are you doing these things?06:51
profoX`jpjacobs: goeiemorgen06:51
darksoul_jpjacobs, did you type winecfg and changed how sound ran?06:51
w30Warbo, gpm but you have to reboot after synaptic installs it06:51
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Don_jrI got a netgear WB511 today, was told that this model would be recognized06:52
kerwonzprofoX`: # sudo grub06:52
Don_jrWG511, not WB06:52
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tonyyarussow30: Reboot?  Shouldn't a new login be sufficient?06:52
npodgesdarksoul_: i dont understand your question06:52
profoX`kerwonz: yea but you're supposed to do it on the machine you're trying to booy06:52
profoX`kerwonz: when you type C06:52
profoX`you get the command line06:52
jpjacobsdarksoul_, well, no, not really... it was just a try...06:52
profoX`booy=boot06:52
distantbodyDon_jr: Well if you do some googleing you will be able to find a list of every wireless chip that is/isn't supported06:52
darksoul_npodges, you said your sound didint run on wine, when you type winecfg in console there is a sound section with diffrent options..06:52
npodgesubuntu has it in the wiki.06:52
jpjacobsG'morgen profox...06:52
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npodgesdarksoul, that wasnt me xD06:53
WarboYeah! I have a mouse pointer! Now for the rest...06:53
npodgesyou're thinking of ScreaminIke06:53
Don_jrI'll just plug it in and find out....lol06:53
w30tonyyarusso, no a log in won't work some expert could do it without a reboot but not me06:53
profoX`jpjacobs: put the sound on alsa - full hw acceleration // if that doesnt work, try full EMULATION (last option) // that worked for me06:53
darksoul_eh06:53
distantbodyDon_jr:...But if you have ethernet, it's waaa easier06:53
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tonyyarussow30: Ah06:53
darksoul_npodges, well do you know how to figure out my FPS on starcarft.. i would figure its the same as WC3..06:53
Don_jrI don't06:53
kerwonzprofoX`, where i need to type C? in grub> ?06:53
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npodgesi've never bothered to check fps..06:54
ScreaminIkewc3 is a totally different engine from SC06:54
npodgesi just play06:54
_relachsok, i still dont know how to include windows into grub06:54
Don_jrthere's nothing hard-wired in my house anymore.  And the laptop doesn't even have a lan plug06:54
profoX`kerwonz: when you reboot the pc and you have grub in front of you06:54
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npodgeswine is kinda annoying for one reason06:54
kerwonzohh oks06:54
ScreaminIkewc3 is full 3d. starcraft doesn't even fake it06:54
kerwonzprofoX`: let me see i go to reboot06:54
darksoul_npodges, every time i tried WC3 my menu basicly froze.. almost.. hardly ran.. i hope it will this time around..06:54
npodgeswhen you play windowed games, and you have the cursor outside the winow06:54
distantbodyDon_jr:Does you wireless router/modem have an ethernet port?06:54
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npodgesyou cant type in that window06:54
profoX`kerwonz: you don't have 2 pc's? thats annoying :p06:54
Warbo_relachs: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" there is an example given to you in there, so just tweak it and move it to the bottom06:54
Don_jrI could hardwire this computer and install here, but if it screwed up my windows some how I"d be extremely annoyed at not being able to get online06:54
kerwonznoo06:54
kerwonzi dont have two06:54
kerwonzhehe06:55
Don_jrYes the router does, but the laptop does not06:55
kerwonzprofoX`: let me try06:55
npodgesand if you play fullscreen, it resizes your whole screen, and you can scroll away06:55
kerwonzjeje06:55
npodgeswhen i play warcraft in wine fullscreen, it doesnt take keyboard input06:55
darksoul_Its true starcraft doesn't even fake 3d..but it was running so horribly one time i installed ubuntu it wasn't funny lol06:55
ScreaminIkethat's bs06:55
npodgeswhen i asked about it in the wine irc channel, they said it's one of th eoldest bugs with wine06:55
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npodgesand there's no solution06:55
distantbodyDon_jr: Does the router have a USB connection...?06:55
Don_jrI'm also worrid that ubuntu doens't support my graphics card06:55
npodgesDon_jr: what card06:55
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ScreaminIkelol06:56
ScreaminIkewhat about cedega?06:56
darksoul_Don_jr, its not ubuntu that wont support it, its the drivers.06:56
Don_jrno only eithernet06:56
ScreaminIkewhat' with all their D3D...06:56
npodgesDon_jr: what gfx card?06:56
ajayhello channel06:56
ajayi was just considering to buy a laptop.06:56
npodgesyeah?06:56
Don_jrit's nvidia chipset.  geforce mx4000 is the card06:56
darksoul_ScreaminIke, Cedega is good on some things, but i found that it lagged my computer badly.. on a game that shouldnt even lag.. at all06:56
npodgesDon_jr: it's supported.06:56
profoX`wine works better for the games i play (sof2 - 2002 game)06:57
npodgesyou might want to get the restricted drivers though06:57
ajayand am trying to chose between amd turion and centrion based ones06:57
distantbodyDon_jr: OK, so ethernet isn't an option, but your vid card will have drovers for it no sweat06:57
Warbodon_jr: You will have to installa a non-Free driver for that. There are no accelerated 3D drivers for nvidia cards which are Free06:57
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npodgesajay: intel core duo06:57
distantbodyDon_jr: *drivers*06:57
profoX`ajay: both processors work fine on linux if thats what you're asking06:57
eck_does anyone know what is needed to get aiff audio to play?06:57
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ajayprofoX`, thats right06:57
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Warboeck_: Gstreamer plugins probably. Get them all and have a go06:57
Don_jrso, I should be able to dual boot this computer, it will autodetect my ethernet card and connect to my router so I can get online and the vid card isn't a problem and it won't screw up my XP???(if I try on this computer since laptop is a retard)06:58
ajayam a ubuntu user need to know if it works fine on either of them06:58
ajaynpodges, any specific reason?06:58
npodgesajay: that shouldnt be your deciding factor06:58
distantbodyWarbo: I think you need to clarify your meaning of free, the drivers are free as in beer.06:58
npodgesajay: no, not really, i just prefer the cpu06:58
npodgesajay: i woul decide more on the video card than the cpu though06:58
npodgesajay: nvidia only will make you happier06:58
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Bonez56_i have a / partition that is 11gb, but i don't need it to be that large. what is the easiest way to resize it? it's ext3.06:59
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ajayHmm.. then the amd turion based lappy gives me nvidia video adapter06:59
npodgesBonez5656_ gparted06:59
Don_jrseriously, if I plug in this computer to my router, will ubuntu recognize it all and make it work for me so I can get back online?06:59
WarboI want to get a laptop with the same card as I have in my desktop, Radeon 9200 (obviously will need to be a Mobility or something). That would be great06:59
Bonez56_npodges: yes but it can't unmount / because device is busy06:59
distantbodyDon_jr: Yes, it will do all of that06:59
Don_jrokay, I'll give it a shot06:59
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npodgesbonez56_ download the livecd version from gparted.sourceforge.net07:00
npodgesburn it, and boot into it07:00
ajaybut the centrino has a a 945 chipset based motherbord and card (within my budget that is)07:00
NoCLICan't find any info on the forums about my nforce 4 based motherboard working with ubuntu. anyone have a Gigabyte GA-K8NMF-9 up and running with no problems?07:00
npodgesit's ~30mb07:00
Bonez56_npodges: i have that live cd but it wont work with my PC for some reason07:00
distantbodyDon_jr: Clarify "this" computer, laptop or your windows machine?07:00
darksoul_So no one here knows how to detect FPS when running a game on wine?07:00
_relachsWarbo: yea, i have already opened the file and there is an example for windows 95/98/NT/2000 <- title. But how do i know the numbers "root (hd0,0)" i think thats the line i have to edit07:00
npodgesbonez56_ use the ubuntu install partitioner as if going to install?07:00
Bonez56_k thx07:01
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npodgesnp07:01
ajaynpodges, turion 64bit+nvidia geforce is a nice deal then??07:01
Don_jrmy windows machine "this compure" the one I"m on currently07:01
distantbody_relachs: Do you know how to open a command line? I'll give you the command if you do.07:01
Warbo_relachs: basically hd0 is the first hard drive, hd1 is the second, etc. the second number is the partition, where the first is 0, the second is 1, etc. Just tell it where Windows is installed07:01
ajayagainst centrino+945 chipset07:01
npodgesajay, that'll work fine07:01
npodgeswhat nvidia card?07:01
Don_jrMy desktop that I am on right now runs XP.  I don't want XP to get screwed up07:01
Don_jrmy card is a geforce MX400007:02
PyroManiakanyone know why sometimes linux scrolls fluid using the up/down keys, and sometimes it requires me to hit the key for each advance up/down?07:02
ajaynpodges, nvidia geforce go 615007:02
distantbodyDon_jr: It won't muck with Xp07:02
npodgesokay07:02
chucklesxgl/compiz problem: got the setup working, excited, then 5 minutes in it crashes for no reason, get booted back to login, xgl now broken and no window borders? what happened? oh yeah, ati + gnome + dapper07:02
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_relachsWarbo: Ah oke, thank you, i think its located at 0,1 then, what means chainloader?07:02
WarboIs there any way of using radeon driver in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:02
mhonnhalo..07:03
npodgesajay, really any cpu works fine in linux, so it's up to you there, and truthfully.... ATI cards work fine in linux too... but nvidia tend to get better supoort07:03
Warbo_relachs: chainloader means that GRUB gives up control to another bootloader, in this case the WIndows one07:03
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Don_jrokay, if what you say is true, then I should be back here and online in about 20 or 30 m ins running ubuntu07:03
mhonnufter install my xmms i can run the xmms?07:03
npodgeswarbo, just reconfigure, and when it asks for driver... fglrx should show up there07:03
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npodgesif you already have it installed07:03
distantbodyDon_jr: Well... is it a fast computer?07:03
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Don_jrit's alot faster than my laptop07:04
Warbonpoges: I hope not, because I haven't got that installed. I use radeon driver07:04
ajaynpodges, cool. thanks a ton.07:04
distantbodyDon_jr: How fast?07:04
npodgesajay, np07:04
Don_jrit may take longer, fine, as long as windows isn't blown away and I can shut off the install and get back to xp if it's too slow07:04
_relachsWarbo: Thanks! In a few minutes we will see if you were right :P07:04
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Don_jrit's a P3 800mghz with 512 mb ram07:04
distantbodyDon_jr: OK, *faster*;)07:05
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Don_jrsay an hour to install07:05
npodgeswarbo: then no, you'll have to install the driver seperately as per one of the how tos on the forum07:05
npodgesdon_jr less than that07:05
Don_jrI've got it hardwired, ethernet, to the router and rebooting, wish me luck07:05
chucklesxgl/compiz problem: setup booted, wooed by effects, crashed after 5 min?, booted back to login, xgl now broken and no windows borders... oh yeah, ati + gnome + dapper07:05
distantbodyDon_jr:Wait!07:05
Don_jrsup?07:05
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npodgeschuckles, are you kevin_07:05
Warbonpodges: Well it is installed by default, but I was just wondering if there was any way of switching my resolutions without having to edit xorg.conf after. Oh well07:05
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chucklesnpodges: yeah07:06
distantbodyDon_jr:I'll give you instructions...07:06
Don_jrokay07:06
Don_jrthey'll be appriciated07:06
nalphaguys why i can't access my cd-rom my windows tell windows doesn't not recognize the file system (windows xp) after i plug in my USB (that before is from Linux Ubuntu) there's virus???07:06
xnull-http://pastebin.ca/147176 any ideea ?07:06
armi installed the kernel to make use of my dual core. what steps should i take (packages to reinstall) to make sure gnome and compiz takes it nicely?07:06
ajcates_maugic07:06
kerwonzprofoX`: doesnt works :( if i wanna put windows like the mbr what can i do and tomorrow config it... so my brother need windows tomorrow jeje?07:06
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npodgeschuckles: is your xgl session still running, but compiz isnt launching?07:06
npodgesor is xgl actually not running07:06
chucklesnpodges, i can login into 'xgl' but no effects work and its kinda slow, so-- yeah i guess what you said07:07
distantbodyDon_jr: Did you receive the private message?07:07
Don_jrwill 10 gig of space be enough?07:07
Don_jrno I didn't07:07
npodgesdon_jr, yeah07:07
codehtmai_lappyalright. i'm having a problem that i've had for months. I feel like i've tried everything. plain and simple: i can't boot ubuntu (or any linux) bc i cant install a boot loader07:07
Don_jrthanx07:07
codehtmai_lappyany help would be MUCH appreciated07:07
profoX`kerwonz: insert the windows cd / choose recovery console / type: fixmbr / then type: fixboot / then restart pc..07:08
npodgeschuckles: friend had almost that exact problem... working now, trying to tihnk what he did.07:08
npodgeswhat gfx car specifically?07:08
chucklesnpodges, me? radeon 920007:08
distantbodyDon_jr: You know how to boot from disc...correct?07:08
profoX`kerwonz: maybe your boot.init needs to be changed.. when you're back in windows, contact me on this channel when i'm here07:08
Warbobah, I ruined xorg.conf for no reason. X is still broken, so I'll just replace it with the backup07:08
Don_jryeah, restart the computer with the disk in07:08
npodgeswhat errors do you ge twhen you try to start compiz?07:08
kerwonzprofoX`: hey and lilo maybe works?07:08
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distantbodyDon_jr: Do you know how to enable "boot from disk" in the bios?07:09
Cosmo-sanquick moron question:  I mapped a drive in truecrypt, what is the command so I can open it?  When I use mount I get the error  "can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab.  I'm guessing it's a simple answer~07:09
ajcates_A07:09
Don_jrit already is, had to make sure of that to install XP from a formated blank HD07:09
rpedroanyone know a reliable howto to install XGL on an ATI card ?07:09
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rast4hey guys, I'm having a hell of a time watching XviD movies on ubuntu. I've downloaded a codec, xine player and all it's plugins and I can't view movies still and on the ones that do play, there is no sound07:09
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chucklesnpodges, i dont get any, it just doesnt load i guess-- 'xgl' boots up to a gnome-ish screen, but theirs no effects and no window borders, is there something i should be looking for?07:10
shaigirl67hi ya'll07:10
Don_jrand it should give me the option durring install to leave windows alone and only use the empty space07:10
nich0shey ther07:10
distantbodyDon_jr: OK. You probably don't really need instructions then, because its pretty automagical.07:10
Don_jrOkay, wish me luck, I'll be back soon if all goes well07:10
Samuli^rast4, download easyubuntu and take all the codecs with that script.07:10
npodgeswell, you're probably starting compiz as part of your session. stop that, then when you boot up, you should have to run the command manually to start compiz07:10
distantbodyDon_jr: Wish luck:)07:11
ubuntucan you run flash in lynx if you can how do you install and configure flash in lynx07:11
npodgesnot sure what command you use, may be different than mine, but whatever you have in your sessions07:11
rast4Samuli: ty07:11
WarboCan ANYONE tell me why Xorg says modules "bitmap" and "pcidata" cannot be found? All of the packages are installed, the problem started with a version prior to the famous Xorg bug, and since I have upgraded everything in a vain attempt to fix it :(07:11
rast4might as well try07:11
npodgesthen, try to run it, and see what errrors you get07:11
profoX`kerwonz: maybe.. but i have no experience with lilo07:11
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Samuli^rast4, what player are you using?07:11
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chucklesnpodges, k just a sec07:12
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chucklesbrb07:12
kerwonzprofoX`: oks :/07:13
Flannelcjones: I imagine you can't07:13
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KragneracHello, when I run Compiz, the Window borders are gone, and I can't move them. I've been trying to look for a solution on Google, but to no avail. Anybody know how to fix this problem?07:13
FlannelKragnerac: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL/compiz questions07:14
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WarboKragnerac: Try running "compiz --replace"07:14
profoX`Kragnerac: recent changes deleted cgwd / shouldn't have happened07:14
profoX`Kragnerac: sudo apt-get install cgwd cgwd-themes07:14
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profoX`Kragnerac: and try running compiz again07:14
JbirkHello07:14
KragneracOk.07:14
cjonescan you run micromedia flash player in lynx or links07:14
profoX`cjones: whats the point :P07:14
Jbirkcjones: no becuase it isn't graphical07:14
Warbocjones: Adobe have not offered a plugin07:14
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JbirkYou need a GUI based browser for flash07:15
JbirkLuckily, it works great with Ubuntu Drapper/Firefox07:15
profoX`flash in lynx.. could be nice.. in ascii07:15
WarboA browser isn't necissary, just X07:15
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blackmadSo I installed XP on 16gig partition on a 40gig drive, then I rebooted, installed ubuntu, and did all that07:15
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cjonesis ther a way to get streeming audio from a command prompt without a gui ?07:15
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JbirkI have a vnc problem07:15
JbirkEach time I connect to my ubuntu box from another computer, I get errors07:16
Jbirkand I get disconnected a lot07:16
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JbirkREct to big07:16
blackmadnow when I try to boot XP, it freaks out about unmountable boot volume, and when I look at the partition table in the windows installer ... it doesn't see any paritions07:16
Warbocjones: VLC is good at streaming, and I know it has a telnet interface and ASCII output. Maybe that is the most comprehensive07:16
profoX`Warbo: come to think of it, can't mplayer play flash7 with some codec? and then pull that through -vo aa, and make a lynx plugin :/07:16
rpedrocan anyone recommend a reliable howto to install XGL on an ATI card?07:16
KragneracprofoX: Still doesn't work.07:16
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profoX`Kragnerac: what do you get when you type this in the terminal:07:16
WarboMPlayer can play Flash videos, but I don't think it can play Flash animations/games07:16
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HellDragonnight07:17
medicinemanhelp! dpkg seems to be broken!07:17
profoX`Kragnerac: compiz --replace & cgwd --replace &07:17
cjoneswarbo ok do i need to add a reposatory to apt-get it?07:17
profoX`Kragnerac: compiz --replace gconf & cgwd --replace &07:17
Warbo!info vlc07:17
profoX`I mean that07:17
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB07:17
mhonnhow to compile a my source??07:17
cjoneswarbo thank you07:17
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Warbocjones: What I said is pure speculation, so I would have no idea how to do it :)07:17
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chucklesnpodges, started xgl session, started compiz, first got some error about gnome decorator, then tried to start compiz again and it sprung to life, wtf?07:18
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Kragneracprofox: "compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0"07:18
Kragneracprofox: "compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0"07:18
Kragneracprofox: "compiz.real: No manageable screens found on display :0.0"07:18
ireverentReverenhow can i install off the install cd and not use that silly gui? what ever partitioner it is using is broken and i would like to try something different07:19
chuckleswoohoo, compiz is fun07:19
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cjoneswarbo i understand i am just trying to be abel to get to the point i can uninstall the gui07:19
WarboireverentReveren: You could use the alternate CD, or from the CD you have you could install debootstrap07:19
Kragneracprofox: The program 'cgwd' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.  (Details: serial 656 error_code 8 request_code 152 minor_code 8) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to cha07:19
Kragneracnge this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)07:19
Warbocjones: Can you give it to me? Mine is broken :)07:19
villaalguien que hable espaol?07:20
Warbo!es07:20
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:20
cjoneswarbo whats broken ?07:20
Warbocjones: My graphics07:20
profoX`Kragnerac: that doesn't sound good..07:20
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ireverentReverenwarbo how do i use debootstrap?07:20
profoX`Kragnerac: do they have updates?07:20
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profoX`Kragnerac: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade07:20
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chucklesnpodges_away, i guess your away now but, i started xgl -- tried to fire up compiz from the terminal and it rambled something about gnome-decorator so i fired the command again and compiz sprung to life, woohoo... how do i remove this gnome decorator thing from this session?07:21
KragneracprofoX: My packages are all up to date.07:21
cjoneswarbo i just found out today you dont need them just lynx for web and bitchx for irc07:21
cjoneswarbo :)07:21
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HanzZ!w32codecs07:21
Warbocjones: Well, I can't get my head around bitchx so I am using ircII07:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:21
profoX`Kragnerac: maybe you get more support in #xgl07:22
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cjoneswarbo lol07:22
KragneracprofoX: Yeah. I'll try there.07:22
profoX`k07:22
Warbocjones: If you can tell me where to get some good text-based image manipulation, 3D modelling and vector drawing and animation software then I am all for using text mode07:22
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cjonesi was just reading a piece in that in linux jernal about 2 months ago07:23
Samuli^what's so great about text-mode?07:23
cjonesimage magic07:23
FlannelWarbo: I'm surprised there isn't a ncurses based one07:23
Warboimagemagick is not really what I am after. I was thinking more of GIMP07:23
WarboGIMP, Inkscape, Blender, Moho. Obviously I need to fix my graphics :)07:24
profoX`Flannel: for 3D modelling ? :p right07:24
profoX`Warbo: you use Moho ?07:24
cjonesgimp in term would be so tight you could script it :)07:24
FlannelprofoX`: Why not?  It'd be fairly easy07:24
profoX`Warbo: 2D animator ?07:24
WarboprofoX`: Yes07:24
profoX`Flannel: explain :)07:24
profoX`Flannel: how can I do 3D modelling in textmode07:24
FlannelprofoX`: sure, you'd be limited to ASCII art resolution, but large shapes would be distinguisable, It'd be the same as watching a movie in ASCII, which is doable07:25
WarboI get what Flannel means about ncurses. Not that it would be easy, or sensible, just the fact that there isn't one is suprising :)07:25
profoX`Flannel: not for high-res projects :P07:25
ireverentReverenwhat partition manager does ubiquity use? and how can i make it use a different one?07:25
cjonesive seen deepthrot in ascii07:25
WarboGParted07:25
FlannelprofoX`: no, like I said, you'd be limited to the resolution of ascii, but really, ascii isn't so bad.  Have you watched movies in your console before?07:25
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JoseStefani've seen star wars in ascii07:25
profoX`Flannel: yes07:25
profoX`Flannel: aa / caca07:25
FlannelprofoX`: then you'd know that it can do a pretty good job of it07:26
Warboapt-get install bb07:26
profoX`Flannel: when you look at it from a distance ._.07:26
FlannelprofoX`: normal screen distance07:26
cjonescan you watch xvid in console?07:26
profoX`cjones: yes07:26
chucklescompiz problem: compiz wont start with session but will run from terminal after two tries, on try and i get something about gnome-decorator, second try it springs to life? help???07:26
Flannelcjones: sure.  use libcaca as your output07:26
npodges_awaychuckles: i was afk, everything's working now?07:26
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cjonesprofox sweet!07:26
profoX`Flannel: even better - in the virtual console - on the framebuffer07:26
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profoX`no need for ugly text mode :p07:26
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WarboI know mplayer can be run from CLI, and it probably offers text output07:26
chucklesnpodges_away, i guess, it loaded from terminal after second try... first try i got something about gnome decorator, but the second time it worked07:27
profoX`Warbo: yes -vo aa / -vo caca07:27
npodges_awaychuckles: what version of compiz are you using. sometimes, you just have to run it up to three or four times07:27
npodges_awayuntil ti works07:27
profoX`if it's compiled in07:27
ISOLATEDViRuSdoes amaroK play .mp3?07:27
chuckleshmmm, im not sure, how do i check?07:27
WarboWell I can't say that I have bothered to tell the truth :)07:27
profoX`Warbo: and -vo cvidix and/or fb stuff to run directly on framebuffer07:27
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knappercan someone help me get vnc working, point me to some guides or something?07:27
Flannel!tell ISOLATEDViRuS about mp307:27
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profoX`ISOLATEDViRuS: yes, if you installed libxine-extracodecs07:27
npodges_awaychuckles: where did you install form?07:27
ISOLATEDViRuSwhere can i find libxine-extracodecs?07:27
npodges_awaysource, ubuntu repos, or quinn's repos?07:28
chucklesrepositories, ummm... lemme find the tut url07:28
FlannelISOLATEDViRuS: read the link ubotu sent you, it gives you all the details07:28
ISOLATEDViRuSok, thanks07:28
Samuli^ISOLATEDViRuS, easiest way is to download easyubuntu script and have it install all the codecs for you.07:28
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fyrestrtr!mp307:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:28
chucklesnpodges_away, the sites down but the bookmark is for a TAZ forum?07:28
WarboOK, I am going to try completely purging the whole of X and reinstalling. MAYBE that will help07:29
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chucklesi remember a beerorkid directory, and something about quinn packages07:29
npodges_awaychuckles: did you have to add the repo, or did it come installed?07:29
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npodges_awayokay07:29
npodges_awayhmm07:29
chucklesnpodges_away, it was added... is there anyway to automate the startup for the session?07:29
npodges_awayi have an idea07:29
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ireverentReverenhow do oyu start the text mode installer?07:30
chucklesitd get kinda old having to manually start it each time07:30
npodges_awayyeah there is07:30
npodges_awayi'll email you a file, if you give me your email07:30
npodges_awayit's a startup script someone wrote at compiz.net07:30
chucklesok... kevinf89@gmail.com07:30
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SlaSheR84hi i just installed ubuntu 6.06 server LAMP instaand i cant get root access, whats the root password set to by default?07:31
JoseStefan!root07:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:32
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SlaSheR84cheers07:32
Don_jrdidn't work07:32
Don_jrit hangs up when it tries to start the GUI, right after it loads the drivers and what not.07:32
ireverentRevereni would like to install ubuntu, but the cd that I have downloaded only appears to have a graphical installer, and that installer is broken... how can i install in textmode or with a diferent partitioner?07:32
WarboWell that didn't fix it07:33
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IcemanV9ireverentReveren: alternative cd07:33
natural20so i can't access yahoo mail with any of my browsers. i can get to my inbox, but the emails won't open.  any suggestions? (Opera, FF, Epihany - Breezy)07:33
ireverentReverenseriously?07:34
ireverentRevereni have to download a second 700 meg image07:34
ireverentReverenNice07:34
Warbonatural20: I use ftechyahoo to let me use Evolution07:34
IcemanV9ireverentReveren: it is clearly explained on its download page07:34
Warbo*fetchyahoo07:34
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Don_jrdistantbody you still here?07:35
natural20Warbo, no idea what ftechyahoo or evolution is07:35
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WarboireverentReveren: You can use debootstrap if you want07:35
medicinemancan someone please help a semi-noob repair dpkg?07:35
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ireverentReverenIcemanV9 i am sorry, i neglected to see where it said that the GUI installer is broken and cant read a partition table07:35
Warbo!info fetchyahoo07:35
ubotufetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.0-1 (dapper), package size 37 kB, installed size 176 kB07:35
Warbo!info evolution07:35
ubotuevolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB07:35
natural20are thosea available for breezy? they both say dapper07:35
WarboWow, Evoltion's description is great. It is an email program07:35
varsendaggrak why when using gstreamer to encode mp3's are my mp3's 78 mb?07:35
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ireverentReverenis there no netinstall disk?07:36
ISOLATEDViRuSis there a way for me to get compatibility for .m4a files?07:36
distantbodyhere07:36
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Warbonatural20: Evolution certainly is, but I found that Dapper's fetchyahoo stopped working recently, but the latest version from fetchyahoo.sourceforge.net works07:36
Don_jrAny ideas on why the ubuntu setup hangs right after it loads the drivers and what not?  when loading hardware drivers I got this error "17179782.032000, hw_randon:rng not detected.07:36
WarboI think I am just going to reinstall Ubuntu07:37
IcemanV9fetchyahoo? will it work with FREE yahoo email or Paid one?07:37
Warboagain07:37
WarboIcemanV9: Free one. It only works with the old-style interface though, since it parses the pages to get the emails07:37
distantbodyDon_jr: that's very annoying, what esle happened?07:37
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ISOLATEDViRuSis there a way for me to get .m4a files to work for amarok?07:38
Don_jrdistantbody it went on and loaded everything else, loaded GNOME GUI then went to a black screen with a NON blinking cursor and stopped there07:38
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WarboOK, I'm going to reinstall :(07:38
nich0s_It's like I'm logged in at two different locations. :P07:39
nich0s_but too lazy to go over to the other system and disconnet it :P07:39
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Don_jrI've completed installing win98 back on my laptop and installing the drivers for the wireless card now so I can get online with it and work wiht you all here to get it running on this computer instead...if I can07:40
distantbodyDon_jr:07:40
Don_jryep07:40
wall0159can some one give me a hand with X11? It's worked fine, but yesterday it suddenly stopped working... confused.07:41
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distantbodyDon_jr: Umm so you say the ubuntu logo?07:41
JoseStefan!xorgbug > wall015907:41
distantbody*saw*07:41
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Don_jrbefore that07:41
urmomhow do i install flash in ubuntu ppc?07:41
Don_jrthe screen just before that one if I remember right from the laptop07:42
woodwizzleHas anyone here ever bought a music CD that came with a video on it that you could watch on your PC? Is it possible to make one of those?07:42
wall0159JoseStefan: sorry - I don't understand you07:42
Don_jrit goes black right before the ubuntu logo shows up as it's loading the windows and what not07:42
JoseStefancheck the msg ubotu send you07:42
distantbodydid it say anything about loading the kernel?07:42
Don_jryes07:42
robert_blah07:42
Don_jrit loaded the kernel fine from what it said07:42
robert_how do I install my development headers? :/07:43
Don_jrit flashes something very quickly on the screen right before it goes black, but does it so fast I can't read it07:43
ISOLATEDViRuShow do i use the sudo apt-get install command with multiple packages to install?07:43
kid3how can i get my 'wlan0' to work07:43
kid3?07:43
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wall0159JoseStefan: it told me that there was a problem with glXLastContext, and failed because of that. Then I ran dexconf, and that's totally stuffed my xorg.conf file - put all this crap about styluses in there...07:43
ISOLATEDViRuSwould it be: sudo apt-get install <package>&<package>&<package>  ?07:44
wall0159now I just get a No Screens Found error. It looks like it's removed all DRM from X for me...07:44
hasanwhich application do I need to send/receive faxes ?07:44
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distantbodyDon_jr:I can't remember if i.ve ever had that problem before...07:44
wall0159I did run the updater (synaptic) the night before, and updated a package - but I can't remember what it was, and don't know how to check or roll back the update..07:44
Don_jrI have the disks for sun os aswell, they hung up too...could be something with the hardware07:44
JoseStefanwall0159, there was a bug in with X, you need to get the latest update just to make sure you dont have the bug07:44
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Don_jris there a place I can look up the error codes and see what they mean?07:45
JoseStefan!xorgbugfix07:45
ubotuThe fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.07:45
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wall0159I've tried running >>sudo apt-get update from the command line, but that doesn't give me any updates...07:45
distantbodyDon_jr: RNG = random number generator07:45
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JoseStefanwall0159, run this next: sudo apt-get upgrde07:45
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EldaMeh Im confused what is the difference between the amount of data in M and in Mbps?07:45
wall0159do you mean htere was a bug in the update that was released this week?07:45
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wall0159ahh - there's an xorg update there - thanks! ;-)07:46
argumentwhat's a good cli id3 tag editor?07:46
Don_jrwell I"m lost and don't know what else to try....07:46
JoseStefanwall0159, yes there was a buggy package in the updates, it has been fixed now07:46
wall0159do you have any idea if I'd have an 'old' version of xorg.conf on my hard disk somewhere?07:47
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wall0159otherwise, I'll have to fix it up.. (well, maybe dexconf will be able to do it once xorg is updated)07:47
JoseStefanwall0159, first check if the update fixes the problem ;) but yeah,07:47
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distantbodyDon_jr: Yep, i think you should do some googling07:47
wall0159ahh. ok - thanks07:47
ISOLATEDViRuSIn the Terminal, what is the seperator used in the command "sudo apt-get install <package>" if i want to install multiple packages?07:47
JoseStefanwall0159, you might find backups in /etc/X11/07:47
varsendaggrak    how can i  get grip working?07:47
ISOLATEDViRuSa comma? an ampersand?07:48
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JoseStefanwall0159, or  /var/backups/xorg/07:48
reitzellwall0159: wget -c http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb07:48
tom_hey im a total noob and i need some basic help with how to install programs and stuff like that... anyone feel like helping?? :D07:48
Don_jrGah, I"m frustrated tonight....I"ll try something else tomorrow07:48
reitzell wget -c http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb07:48
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distantbodyDon_jr: here's a link: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=39056607:48
Don_jrI just want a nix system that will work.....07:49
ISOLATEDViRuSIn the Terminal, what is the seperator used in the command "sudo apt-get install <package>" if i want to install multiple packages?07:49
JoseStefanwall0159, after it finishes the upgrade, do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:49
medicinemanISOLATEDViRuS,  space does that07:49
EldaWhen something is 3M Downstream and 768 Upstream, is this M megabytes or megabits?07:49
reitzellthen sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core*.deb07:49
distantbodyDon_jr: I,ve been in that position *many* times before07:49
JoseStefanISOLATEDViRuS, space07:49
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Geoffrey2on a periodic basis, my mouse will suddenly stop responding....once I unplug and replug it, all is well, until it stops responding again07:50
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sethkGeoffrey2, usb mouse?07:50
Don_jrthat thread assumes you already have it installed..I can't even get the live CD to run07:50
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tom_close07:50
tom_damn it!07:50
sethkDon_jr, what problem are you having?07:50
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wall0159JoseStefan: thanks. I'll try that. I'm running updatedb at the moment, and I'll use locate to try and find another xorg.conf file. Thanks for your help! :-)07:50
Geoffrey2sethk, yes, Microsoft USB optical mouse07:51
JoseStefanwall0159, backups usually are renamed07:51
ISOLATEDViRuSso i would type " sudo apt-get install <package> <package> <package>" ?07:51
sethkGeoffrey2, when the thing stops working, run dmesg.  See if there are any usb errors at the end07:51
JoseStefanwall0159, you might find backups in /etc/X11/  or  /var/backups/xorg/07:51
distantbodyDon_jr: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22rng+not+detected%22&btnG=Search&meta=07:51
sethkGeoffrey2, dmesg prints out the last ? kernel messages07:51
sethkGeoffrey2, so new messages appear at the end07:51
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sethkGeoffrey2, when you reconnect, dmesg will show the device being detected07:51
sethkGeoffrey2, possibly, when it goes bad, we might get a useful message also07:52
wall0159JoseStefan: cheers - I had a look there, but unfortunately didn't find anything..07:52
GZ|louiso07:52
Don_jrwhen the CD loads the drivers it gives me an error, 17179782.032000, hw_random:rng not detected, then moves on, finishes loading all the way to GNOME and one after that, then goes to a black screen with a NON blinking cursor and sits there07:52
ISOLATEDViRuSso i would type " sudo apt-get install <package> <package> <package>" ?07:52
reitzellwall0159:did you see my messages to you?07:52
JoseStefanwall0159, you could also reconfigure it yourself with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:52
sethkDon_jr, that's very odd07:52
wall0159JoseStefan: the update's installed, and X now runs - thanks!07:52
SlaSheR84arg the server install is evil!!07:52
JoseStefanwall0159, ok np07:52
reitzellsounds like you got it07:52
wall0159reitzell: sorry - no - I didn't *shucks*07:53
Don_jrodd seems to be my thing today...nothing want's to work right07:53
sethkDon_jr, you can try a text mode install07:53
SlaSheR84i cant get ssh to work07:53
Don_jrhow do I do that from the live CD?07:53
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Don_jrshould I try to load the 'safe graphics mode"?07:53
sethkDon_jr, I believe on dapper you do it from the alternate07:53
wall0159reitzell: but looking back I see 'em - thanks too! ;-)07:53
sethkDon_jr, sure, try safe graphics mode07:53
reitzellnp07:53
sethkDon_jr, that's easier, try that first07:53
fyrestrtrDon_jr: you can't do a text mode install from the live cd, you need the alternate cd for that.07:53
reitzellI did that and it fixed my xserver07:54
Don_jrokay I'll do that first and come back if it does or doesn't work07:54
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distantbodyDon_jr: I didnt think you even got to that menu. thats changes things now!?07:54
sethkDon_jr, ok, if it doesn't we'll try text mode07:54
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JoseStefani vote for a more streamlined msg for ubotu's xorgbugfix07:54
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Don_jrdistantbody that's the first menu that pops up, then it mounts the kernel or what ever, then switches to loading the drivers and then hangs07:54
Don_jrwe'll try safe mode and see how it goes07:54
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Don_jrbe back in a few07:55
natural20so i'm a complete noob about linux; what ftp client is available for ubuntu?07:55
wall0159JoseStefan/reitzell: I notice that I now don't have a mention of 'GL something' (I forget exactly) in xorg.conf Modules section. Was it 'GLcore'? and does that mean that I now don't have an accelerated X11 session?07:55
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sethkwall0159, not necessarily07:56
reitzellwall :nvida or ati?07:56
fyrestrtrnatural20: you can just use nautilus to do FTP.07:56
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JoseStefanwall0159, you could run glxgears to test07:56
fyrestrtrnatural20: Place > Connect to Server.. -- choose one of the two FTP choices.07:56
wall0159ugh. Intel inbuilt. savage - I think ;-)07:56
eugmanWhat's the cli way of making and editing archives?07:56
Gumbyif a person wants to compile a kernel for ubuntu where does one go about finding the ubuntu kernel sources?07:57
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fyrestrtreugman: tar07:57
fyrestrtr!kernel07:57
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:57
natural20fyrestrtr, thanks!07:57
Gumbythx fyrestrtr07:57
reitzellwall: sorry I'm out07:58
Gumbyif only current kernels came with proper drivers for my ati remote07:58
GumbyI have to recompile the whole kernel just for one simple module07:58
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wall0159reitzell - thanks for your help! :-)07:58
armwhat packages should i reinstall after changing my kernel to a smp kernel to get compiz working again?07:58
sethkGumby, there is a kernel source package07:58
fyrestrtrGumby: you normally don't.07:58
fyrestrtrarm: none07:58
sethkGumby, go into synaptic and search for packages with linux in the name07:58
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fyrestrtrarm: you might need to reinstall your nvidia or ati drivers.07:59
armi didn't, and i get a pure white cube07:59
dshawhello, HELP! I was trying to get acess to some of my files on a hardrive07:59
sethkGumby, you need kernel headers to compiler the module, generally speaking, but you don't need to compile the entire kernel07:59
dshawI first used chmod to change the permissions to 64407:59
JoseStefanI suggest ubotu's xorgbugfix command be changed to: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"07:59
Gumbyfyrestrtr: "normally"  :)  unfortunately I dont know any other way for my remote to change the key bindings the kernel module is using07:59
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sethkdshaw, using numbers with chmod is generally a bad idea.07:59
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armeven though 3d still works?08:00
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JoseStefanwho controls ubotu?08:00
dshawand then imputed sudo chown -hR dshaw /media/sda108:00
Gumbysethk: I need the source for the module  the .c file.08:00
dshawand well... my files kind of... disappeared, gave the gnome "unknown file" icon08:00
sethkGumby, that's the module source, not the entire kernel source08:00
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dshawthe freespace on the drive was right... but couldnt get anything08:00
Geoffrey2sethk, well, I checked dmesg and I don't see anything I'd call an error...just a USB disconnect message followed by the mouse being detected....which could be when I disconnected and reconnected....I do notice that the address keeps going up by one..first it was address 3, then 4, now 5....next time it stops working I'll need to check dmesg to see if the disconnect message has popped up at that point08:00
robert_blah, I totally forgot how to install the common linux headers and whatnot08:01
robert_at least, using apt08:01
sethkGeoffrey2, I'm sure you are correct.  what we would like to discover is why the disconnect happens08:01
fyrestrtrrobert_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:01
sethkGeoffrey2, the dmesg output may not help, but it may08:01
Gumbysethk: which is in the kernel source only. if you have a better way to compile just that module using its source and insert it into my current kernel then I am all ears08:01
Eldanight all08:01
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robert_ta08:01
fyrestrtrGumby: download the headers, download the module source. Compile the module against the new headers, unload the old one, load the new one.08:01
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sethkGumby, why do you believe you need a .c file that's part of the kernel, rather than part of the module you are building?08:01
radon1I have USB disk (under windows works perfectly). If I mount i under linux:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,08:02
sethkGumby, I always install the kernel source, and that's easy to do, but it doesn't make sense.08:02
radon1please, could anyone help me?08:02
Geoffrey2sethk, I'll just mention this is on a Dell Inspiron 6000.....08:02
Gumbysethk: because I need to manually edit the .c file to change the key bindings that each button press of the remote is mapped to.08:02
wall0159JoseStefan: thanks for your help - I think it's sorted. Cheers! :-)08:02
sethkGumby, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation.08:02
JoseStefanwall0159, ok08:02
robert_oooh08:02
sethkGeoffrey2, that has a touch pad, I think, does the touch pad work also?08:02
ryctormount -t msdosfs /dev/usbdisk /mnt/mountpoint08:02
robert_I think it auto-installed it for me08:02
sethkGeoffrey2, they might be stepping on each other.08:02
dshawSome help would be really nice... it happened to be my backup drive while I reinstalled ubuntu... everything is on there...08:02
sethkjust -t msdos08:03
sethknot msdosfs08:03
pharglevfat or ntfs08:03
phargletoo08:03
Geoffrey2sethk, between that and my keyboard errors, I feel like I should be looking for a can of RAID in the repos :)08:03
sethkphargle, with -t msdos it is smart enough to figure out that it is fat16 or fat32 (== vfat)08:03
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ryctordo as I say dude08:03
fyrestrtrGeoffrey2: software raid is still a big buggy you know ;)08:04
sethkGeoffrey2, something is very odd.  I've run linux on dell laptops without problems (earlier versions, of course)08:04
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Geoffrey2sethk, yes, the touchpad works...I generally don't use it though, if I can help it08:04
fyrestrtrdshaw: who told you to run chmod -hR ?08:04
sethkGeoffrey2, I hate them, also, but that's not the point.  I'm wondering if somehow the use of both is getting the system confused08:04
sethkGeoffrey2, I would try removing the touchpad configuration from your xorg.conf, see if the usb mouse starts behaving itself08:05
sethkfyrestrtr, good question, -h there makes no sense, certainly not with -R08:05
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dshawfyrestrtr, the "man chown" did, I was trying to get it to do the same to all the sub dirs...08:06
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JoseStefani dont see -h in the man08:06
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fyrestrtrdshaw: unplug the usb drive, plug it back in again. This time, don't run any commands.08:06
sethkJoseStefan, that's because it isn't a valid flag  :)08:06
Geoffrey2sethk, ok..lesse here...xorg.conf.....that's in /etc/x11 ?08:06
fyrestrtrdshaw: when it appears on your desktop, double click to open it.08:06
JoseStefanoh, now im confused, chmod or chown ?08:06
sethkGeoffrey2, right.  copy it before making changes08:07
sethkGeoffrey2, I wouldn't edit the file directly08:07
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sethkGeoffrey2, I would run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:07
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sethkGeoffrey2, wait, check that08:07
dshawHERE:08:07
sethkGeoffrey2, no, that doesn't let you change the mouse08:07
dshawEXAMPLES08:07
dshaw chown -hR root /u08:07
dshaw              Change the owner of /u and subfiles to "root".08:07
BOBSONATORDoes any one know the APT-GET command for ubuntu themes?08:08
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dshawfyrestrtr, I tried mounting and unmounting the drive, and its a sata, not a usb08:08
sethkdshaw, where are you getting that from?   there are no examples in the man page for chmod08:08
Gumbychown08:08
Gumbynot chmod08:08
JoseStefanits chown ;)08:08
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dshawsethk, chown!08:08
medicinemannot meaning to be a pain here, but man page on dpkg said nothing about this, getting kind of desparate http://pastebin.ca/14718908:08
BOBSONATORDoes any one know the APT-GET command for ubuntu themes?08:09
sethkdshaw, oh, ok, sorry.  you certainly don't want to be using -h there08:09
Gumbydshaw: chown root:root /path/to/directory -R08:09
sethkdshaw, it may be harmless, but it certainly makes no sense08:09
dshaw.............08:09
dshawIT TOLD ME TO!!! :P anyways, ill keep that in mind. a fix would help08:09
BOBSONATORmoo08:09
sethkGumby, no, the -R before the other things08:09
Gumbysethk: it doesnt matter08:09
sethkdshaw, what are you trying to do, actually08:10
distantbodyBOBSONATOR: http://art.gnome.org/themes08:10
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fyrestrtrdshaw: what filesystem is on the device?08:10
sethkGumby, it may not, but you shouldn't encourage bad habits.  other commands definitely will barf.  always put your flags first08:10
dshawwell see, my files kind of vanished after that command I put in08:10
dshawand then it gave them all (even the dirs) a gnome *unknown file* icon08:10
sethkGumby, looking at the docs, it says that the options must preceed08:11
dshawfyrestrtr: ext308:11
sethkdshaw, forget about icons, and whatever, for now.  just go to a command line08:11
Gumbythen the docs are written poorly.  because its not the case.  yes, it may be good practice, but saying the MUST precede is false in this case08:11
fyrestrtrdshaw: oh ... dear.08:11
dshawsethk: in one08:11
sethkdshaw, in one what?08:11
sethkGumby, the docs specify options first08:12
fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo mount -t auto /dev/whatever /media/wherever08:12
JoseStefanGumby, putting options at end may be supported now, but might not be supported in future versions08:12
sethkGumby, on what do you base the assertion that the docs are wrong?08:12
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dshawsethk: a command line08:12
fyrestrtrdshaw: then, type 'mount'08:12
fyrestrtrdshaw: and paste here the line with that device (not the entire output)08:12
sethkdshaw, work with fyrestrtr, he's on the right track and I'm interrupting08:12
urmomis there a way i can make right click ctrl click on my ibook g4?08:12
Don_jrThat was friggin wierd08:13
Don_jrI got to a bash prompt08:13
fyrestrtryes, the bash prompt is a strange animal.08:13
Gumbysethk: if the docs say that something MUST be done a specific way, and it works perfectly fine NOT doing it that way, then the docs are wrong08:13
sethkDon_jr, well, that's an improvement over a dead screen  :)08:13
Don_jrhere's what happened08:13
dshawsudo mount -t auto /dev/whatever /media/wherever08:14
sethkGumby, you cannot have possibly tried all the combinations where the options might be in the wrong position and checked the results08:14
fyrestrtrGumby: no, the docs aren't wrong. The program is written in a way to deal with people that don't read the docs (as good programs should).08:14
Don_jrit started loading as normal, mounting root, this kind of thing, after choosing safe graphics mode08:14
Geoffrey2sethk, I guess I'd prefer not to remove the touchpad settings if I don't have to...when I have the notebook running on battery, I do use the touchpad....when I'm at my desk and plugged into AC, the I use my USB mouse08:14
JoseStefanGumby, alternate support can not be guaranteed to work on all versions, always08:14
sethkGeoffrey2, ok, I'm not sure it is related, in any event08:14
Don_jrthen a big screen popped up saying Xserver did not load properly, it is likley it is not set up correctly would you like to view server output?08:14
sethkGeoffrey2, find out if the disconnect happens when the mouse stops working, or doesn't happen until you disconnect the mouse08:15
dshawwhoops: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ext3 (rw)08:15
Don_jrI chose yes, and it said -bash: no job control in this shell to run commands as root use sudo, inptu man sudo_root for details08:15
fyrestrtrdshaw: cd /media/sd108:15
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fyrestrtrls -l08:15
fyrestrtrwhat are the perms and the owner/group ?08:15
JoseStefanGumby, that syntax may very well be depracated, and you never know when an update could take it away08:15
Don_jrand I didn't know what to do from there.....lol  when I hit the power button to shut down the computer it went back to the ubuntu screen and started unloading everything for a hault.08:15
Geoffrey2ok, next time it happens I'll be sure to check08:15
GumbyJoseStefan: I am not saying it should be.  But if you sit there and tell me that the tree is brown only and I look at the tree and see that the tree is indeed brown but it also has some green on it then the tree really isnt brown "ONLY".  the same case applies for the current manpage aparantly08:15
dshawbash: cd: /media/sda1: Permission denied08:15
sethkoh, he changed the mount point, not the files08:16
Geoffrey2sethk, the other problem I'm having is I'll be typing along and all of a sudden the curser will jump back into the middle of the sentence I was typing08:16
T3KnO> is it possible to make counterstrike source work on Ubuntu?08:16
Gumbywhen the syntax becomre deprecated then the man page should be adjusted to show this08:16
sethkget his mount point permissions back to something reasonable08:16
Gumbybut in all honesty its not really something worth arguing about08:16
fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo -i, then cd /media/sda1 and ls -l, note the permissions and user:group, then type exit;08:16
fyrestrtrGumby: Geoffrey2 take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)08:16
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sethkGeoffrey2, that is also odd.  I've used linux on very similar machines, although it was much earlier kernel versions08:17
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rpedroanyone here have XGL runnining on an ATI card?08:17
fdsdhey guys, I am trying to remove gimp or gnome or anything and is says:  Unmet depenedencies.  Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) and it says blah: Depends: ekiga but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed etc...08:17
fdsdany idea?08:17
JoseStefanGumby, for support reasons, it's best to stick as close to the official docs as possible08:17
woodwizzleHow come gstreamer .8 is a dep for gnomebaker. Can't I just use my 0.10 which is already installed08:17
Geoffrey2sethk, if I'm typing in a text box on a web page, sometimes it'll result in me shooting way up or down on the page, and I'll have to scroll back to find the text box again08:17
distantbodyDon_jr: That could mean anything from unsupported monitor, unsupported vid card, misconfigured resolutions...08:17
dshawokay... now what?08:17
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Don_jrso I"m pretty much stuck not being able to run it08:18
sethkGeoffrey2, this happens randomly?  no pattern at all?08:18
sethkGeoffrey2, only in web pages, or anywhere?08:18
distantbodyDon_jr: No...08:18
fyrestrtrdshaw: ls -l, and not the permissions and owner:group -- by note I mean, tell me what they are :)08:18
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fdsdany one?08:18
fyrestrtrMadpilot: :)08:18
sethkDon_jr, do a text mode install.  then you'll be able to configure it08:18
Don_jrif I get the text install, will I as a new user be able to understand it enough to install it? and will the GUI come with it after instalation?08:18
Geoffrey2sethk, no pattern that I can detect...it's happened on web pages, in here, in Open Office....08:18
Madpilothi fyrestrtr08:18
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fyrestrtrI got the key thing sorted out yesterday. It was a port issue, thanks.08:19
sethkGeoffrey2, this may seem odd, but try plugging in an external keyboard, see if the behavior changes or not08:19
fdsddoes anyone know?08:19
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fdsdhey guys, I am trying to remove gimp or gnome or anything and is says:  Unmet depenedencies.  Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) and it says blah: Depends: ekiga but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed etc...08:19
JoseStefanfdsd, does it state "why?"08:19
Madpilotfyrestrtr, good to hear. So which port do GPG keyservers use, anyway?08:19
sethkfdsd, did you try running the command it suggests?08:19
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Madpilotfdsd, that probably means your sources.list is irregular08:20
Geoffrey2sethk, I'll have to go digging and see if I still have a USB keyboard08:20
distantbodyDon_jr: There are alot of unknowns, the first thing that i thought to do was edit the xorg.conf file, if thats possible from where you got to08:20
fdsdJoseStefan, no, sethk yes, Madpilot how do I fix that?08:20
sethkGeoffrey2, I was thinking of a normal keyboard, but maybe you need the docking station to connect a normal keyboard08:20
sethkfdsd, no change?08:20
fyrestrtrMadpilot: 11371 apparently.08:20
Don_jrpossibly, how do I go about doing that? lol08:20
Madpilotfdsd, can you pastebin your sources.list08:20
fdsdsethk, no change08:20
Madpilotfyrestrtr, that's a good obscure number ;)08:21
fdsdMadpilot, no, the machine is in vmware.. cant copy and paste anything08:21
dshawfyrestrtr, the directorys are drw-r--r-- the one file which is drw-r--r--08:21
fyrestrtrMadpilot: lol yeah, had to troll my logs to find it.08:21
JoseStefanfdsd, synaptics has an easy way to do it08:21
fyrestrtrdshaw: owner/group ?08:21
fdsdJoseStefan, is that a gui application?08:21
dshaw*the one file is -rw-r--r--08:21
distantbodyDon_jr: Well you got to a command prompt?08:21
sethkfdsd, somehow your package data has gotten corrupted.   Try JoseStefan's suggestion if you can08:21
JoseStefanfdsd, yes08:21
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Don_jrI can't find the text install download...lol08:21
Madpilotfdsd, ah. Have you changed the sources.list on this install at all?08:21
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fdsdJoseStefan, no gui on that machine08:21
Don_jryes I got to a command promps, I did man sudo_root like it said and it told me about it08:21
fdsdMadpilot, nope08:22
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Madpilotfdsd, odd, then. Not sure what to suggest08:22
urmomwhere can i download starterbar?08:22
fyrestrtrfdsd: try sudo apt-get update08:22
Geoffrey2sethk, I don't believe a docking station exists for this model...and there's no PS/2 keyboard socket08:22
fdsdfyrestrtr, ok08:22
sethkGeoffrey2, you could be right, I might be thinking of a different inspiron.08:22
JoseStefanfdsd, and after the update try running this again: sudo apt-get -f install08:22
dshawfyrestrtr, ick, ill just post the whole thing08:22
dshawdrw-r--r--  7 root dshaw      4096 Aug 23 12:50 Anime08:23
dshawdrw-r--r--  6 root root       4096 Aug 23 12:15 Backity of the Backups08:23
dshawdrw-r--r-- 14 root root       4096 Aug 23 13:24 Backity of the Up08:23
dshawdrw-r--r--  3 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 04:34 Flash08:23
dshawdrw-r--r--  7 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 04:34 Images08:23
dshawdrw-r--r--  2 root dshaw      4096 Aug  1 19:02 LIMEDOWN08:23
dshawdrw-r--r-- 56 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 03:53 Music08:23
dshawdrw-r--r-- 14 root dshaw      4096 Aug 21 21:00 Video08:23
dshaw-rw-r--r--  1 root root  730675200 Aug 23 10:14 ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso08:23
fyrestrtrdshaw: pastebin!!08:23
ryctorI am in a Inspiron 2560 2GHz no problems08:23
JoseStefan!paste08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:23
fdsdJoseStefan, ok08:23
dpuppSo im about to install xp and ubuntu to dual boot on a 40gb notebook drive. im debating how to distribute the free space.  I was thinking 10gb for xp os NTFS, 10gb for free space Fat32 and the  other 20gb linux. , ... Im seeking your oipinion.08:23
fdsdfyrestrtr, didnt fix it08:23
sethkGeoffrey2, it would be interesting to see what a usb keyboard does, although since the usb mouse isn't behaving, it would probably not be very useful08:23
fyrestrtrfdsd: what was the last thing you installed?08:23
sethkdpupp, that's reasonable08:23
dpuppcan linux write to fat32 with no issues at all?08:23
fdsdfyrestrtr, I removed all the applications it says I have unmet dependencies on, then this started happening08:24
fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo chown -R dshaw:dshaw /media/sda108:24
sethkdpupp, yes08:24
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sethkdpupp, ntfs has issues, which you probably already know.  writing to vfat is stable and works well08:24
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dshawused pastebin, so I write that command in?08:24
fyrestrtrfdsd: is this a fresh install, is it a server, are you on dapper or breezy?08:24
JoseStefanfdsd, what is the output for: sudo apt-get -f install08:25
fyrestrtrdshaw: yes.08:25
fdsdfyrestrtr, a modified ubuntu 6.06 livecd08:25
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dpuppsethk, can winxp run on less than 10gb? and, if i decide, can i kill xp and give the space back to linux without issues later?08:25
fyrestrtrdshaw: exactly as it is written betweeen the > < here -- > sudo chown -R dshaw:dshaw /media/sda1 <08:25
fdsdJoseStefan, one sec08:25
fdsdJoseStefan, how do I purge applications that are installed?08:26
sethkdpupp, giving the space back is no problem.  winxp can run, but I guess it depends on what apps you are going to install.  I'm not an xp expert by any means08:26
dshawfyrestrtr, is doing something...08:26
ryctorlet me see If I understand. you are trying to uninstall aplications on a live cd?08:26
fyrestrtrdshaw: yes, and depending on the size of your disk, it will do that 'something' for a while :)08:26
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dshawfyrestrtr, its done now.08:26
JoseStefanfdsd, i just apt-get remove, i think dpkg can further remove any files left08:26
dpuppfat32 has the 4gb file size limit right?08:26
fyrestrtrdshaw: okay, now cd /media/sda1/Music08:26
fyrestrtrdshaw: then, ls -l08:26
ivxhey what is the command to authenticate root in ubuntu?08:26
sethkdpupp, I believe that's correct, yes.08:27
fyrestrtrdshaw: does it give you any errors?08:27
dpuppis there similar issues in linux ?08:27
JoseStefan!root > ivx08:27
fyrestrtr!sudo > ivx08:27
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dshawbash: cd: /media/sda1/Music: Permission denied08:27
fyrestrtrdpupp: no.08:27
ivxno no i ment for the password... it is something psswrd08:27
distantbodyDon_jr: After that bad experience I think you should probably go back to the laptop and maybe you should go through it step-by-step.08:27
fyrestrtrdshaw: what does the ouput of the command whoami tell you?08:27
Don_jrtry the safe graphic mode on the laptop?08:28
fyrestrtrfdsd: sudo apt-get remove --purge foo08:28
distantbodyDon_jr: And screenshot would help alot, safe mode on laptop sounds best08:28
Don_jrand step-by-step how else can I go througH? lol08:28
Don_jrscreenshot? how do you take a screenshot wihout an OS to run a program to take a screenshot?? lol08:29
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ubuntuhi guys08:29
fyrestrtrDon_jr: a camera :)08:29
dpupphmm. ok thanks. would this be a better idea: 40gb drive: 10gb xp NTFS, 10gb linux, and 20gb FAT32 user space... ? ...08:29
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distantbodyDon_jr: Step-bu-step (assuming some progress is made:-/)08:29
Don_jrloading esential drivers, mounting root file system, it's running thorugh those at the moment08:29
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ubuntudpupp:  try keeping fat3208:30
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Don_jrconfiguring X turned out OK08:30
dshawfyrstrtr, says I am "dshaw"08:30
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dpuppi think this would work ^_^ does fat32 mount by defaut after installing linux?08:31
Don_jrmaybe I should try a different nix? lol08:31
ubuntudpupp:  which distro?08:31
ubuntuif ubuntu, yes :)08:31
vbgunzI have no sound! I tried killall esd and then esd & but that doesn't do anything :(08:31
dpuppubuntu - dapper.08:31
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ubuntudpupp: u should have no issues ;)08:31
distantbodyDon_jr: You *could* try DSL...08:31
ryctorDon_jr: what is the problem?08:31
Don_jrDSL?08:32
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fyrestrtrdshaw: now what does it tell you when you ls -l /media/sda1/Music ?08:32
dpuppok. i want to be able to share that fat32 between windows and linux.08:32
vbgunzAnybody know how I can get my sound back? sound is not muted!08:32
ubuntudsl = damn small linux08:32
ubuntuwww.damnsmalllinux.org08:32
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distantbodyDamn Small Linux...although i haven't tried it myself08:32
Don_jrryctor lots! lol very slow lap top is one problem, and my desktop...just doen'st like it08:32
dshawls: /media/sda1/Music/: Permission denied08:32
ubuntudshaw:  chk perm. settings08:32
masterchiefcan somebody help me in how to install flash player on linux using xubuntu terminal?08:32
Don_jrit's loading restricted drivers, basic networking, hardware drivers, on to those now08:32
dpuppwell! time to format. 10 xp 10 lin and 20 for me ^_^ bbl08:33
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Don_jrmrv8k: firmware 'mrv8k-b.fw' not available or load failed08:33
ubuntupupp good luck08:33
fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo chmod -R 755 /media/sda1/08:33
dshaw(using sudo before it gives the listing)08:33
ryctorare using drappers live cd?08:33
Don_jrbut it moved on anyways...probably my wireless card08:33
ubuntufyrestrtr:  hi there08:33
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Don_jryes08:33
fyrestrtrubuntu: hello08:33
masterchiefguys?08:33
masterchiefhelp pls?08:33
ubuntumasterchief:  for firefox?08:33
masterchiefyes08:33
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ubuntuok08:34
ubuntudid u download the setup file/08:34
dshawfyrestrtr, now it gives me the readout of the dir08:34
masterchiefno mozilla-thunderbird08:34
Don_jrubuntu is singing and loading windows now...lol08:34
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ryctorfirefox installs it automaticly08:34
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Don_jrwindow manager and nautilus08:34
fyrestrtrdshaw: okay good, now access your files and move them around. If you want to just have this drive mounted at boot, you need to add it /etc/fstab08:34
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ubuntumasterchief:  thundebird?08:34
ubuntuflash for thundernird?08:35
masterchiefyes dats it08:35
ubuntubird*08:35
ryctorweird08:35
ubuntuu dont need flash for thundebird08:35
masterchieflook, im running on mozilla-thunderbird instead of firefox08:35
ubuntuas far as i know08:35
ryctorthunderbird doesnt uses plugins, it uses mime types08:35
ubunturyctor:  true08:36
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ryctorthunderbird is mail08:36
ryctorffox ishttp08:36
ubuntufirefox is a browser08:36
masterchiefi dont know08:36
sethkmasterchief, thunderbird is a mail client08:36
masterchiefi know dat08:36
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dshawfyrestrtr, nautilus wont let me acess Backity of the Backups, says "permission denied"08:36
sethkmasterchief, it has nothing to do with firefox08:36
masterchiefit says here mozilla-thunderbird08:36
Don_jrand now I see gnome.  I'll wait for the disk to calm down and hit install??08:36
ubuntuhi sethk08:36
sethkubuntu, hi08:37
ryctorso, when have you ever installed a plugin in an email reader?08:37
sethkmasterchief, oh, advertising08:37
dpupphow big is a typical ubuntu install after its been fluffed up a little?08:37
sethkmasterchief, thunderbird is good enough08:37
ubuntumasterchief:  type firefox in ur konsole08:37
distantbodyDon_jr: Whats the disk doing?08:37
ubunturun that to open sites08:37
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Don_jrit's still goin nutz, gnome hasn't completely loaded just yet08:37
fyrestrtrdshaw: add it with the following optons rw,uid=youruserid,gid=yourgroupid -- to find your userid and group id type grep yourusername /etc/passwd -- you'll see output similar to username:x:somenumber:somenumber:otherstuff -- the first number is your userid, the second is your groupid08:37
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masterchiefterminal is the console rightz/08:37
fyrestrtrdshaw: hrmm, okay if nautilus is still complaining, get back to console.08:38
ubuntumasterchief: yes08:38
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distantbodyDon_jr: Yeah, the best option is not to give it any new tasks until it has inished the previous one/s08:38
dpuppim currently using 6.2gb under linux... is that about right for the average user?08:38
Don_jrI"m clicking install then going to bed I'll see what it does in the morning, it's 1:30 am here and I"ve been at this since about 4pm08:38
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fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo umount /dev/sda1, then sudo mount -t auto -o rw,uid=youruserid,gid=yourgroupid,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:38
FliesLikeABrickafter some normal usage dpupp, yeah08:38
dpuppok cool08:39
ubuntudpupp: yes it shold be ok08:39
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fyrestrtrdshaw: then try it from nautilus again.08:39
masterchiefhow do i type it in?08:39
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ryctorOMG08:39
Aleixzlol08:39
ubuntulol08:39
ryctorwith the keyboard?08:39
distantbodyDon_jr: I hope you don't hate Ubuntu now:(08:39
ubuntumost people use keyboards ;)08:39
Don_jrOh no, not at all, it's my idiotic computers, not the program08:39
ubuntuubuntu is awesome :)08:40
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Don_jrnothing to say I won't get it going, it just hasn't worked YET! :)08:40
masterchieflike this ? /flashplayer-installer/firefox08:40
dshawfyrsrtr:so wait the output is this: dshaw:x:1000:1000:Dylan Shaw,,,:/home/dshaw:/bin/bash which is the userid and which is the group id?08:40
KrakensDenscreen -RD08:40
distantbodyDon_jr: Well good luck. I hope you get it done tomorrow!08:40
ivxhey what do you guys think is the best web browser08:40
ubuntumasterchief: just type firefox08:40
KrakensDener, sorry08:40
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ubuntuivx:  firefox08:41
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ubuntuopera iant bad too08:41
ubuntuaint*08:41
fr500ivx: epiphany08:41
Don_jrI'll sure be trying! and i'll be in here all day trying if I have to.  Hope you all and who ever here tomorrow don't get too annoyed with me! hehe08:41
fyrestrtrdshaw: 1000,100008:41
fr500ivx: it's light08:41
fr500ivx: but firefox rocks because of so much extensions08:41
Don_jrI've never had a computer that I coulnd't make do what I wanted yet, I don't intend to start now! lol08:41
fr500google browser sync best among them08:41
distantbodyDon_jr: I'll *try* to be in tomorrow!08:42
fyrestrtrdshaw: 1000 is your userid, 1000 is your groupid08:42
masterchiefwell dat open the web08:42
ivxfr500 i'm using fire too...08:42
Don_jrif ya can great, if not I'm sure someone will be here to answer something.  I"m off to bed, ya'll have a good one08:42
dshawfyrestrtr: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,08:43
dshaw       missing codepage or other error08:43
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dshaw       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try08:43
dshaw       dmesg | tail  or so08:43
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masterchiefNavigate to this directory and from the command line type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer (Note: this can only be run from the command line). The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s). what does dat mean?08:43
fyrestrtrdshaw: hrmm08:43
fyrestrtrdshaw: remove -t auto from your mount command, try it again (make sure you use sudo)08:44
masterchiefa step by step guide is very helpfil right now08:44
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ubuntumasterchief:  well dude , when u run firefox and visit a site that use flash, it auto prompt u to install flash and does it08:44
ubuntuanyways08:44
masterchiefalready did and it failed08:44
fyrestrtrmasterchief: I'll tell you a step by step guide, but you must follow it exactly.08:44
ubuntukool08:45
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masterchiefalright08:45
fyrestrtrare you ready?08:45
dueI'm sure there's some solution to it, but I've noticed that any video I watch is extremely bright, anything of a light colour is almost burned away.08:45
masterchieffirst?08:45
ryctorman, cd to the flash-installed dir and ls, there will be a flashplayer-installer file, type ./flashplayer-installer08:45
due(with mplayer, totem, whatever)08:45
dshawfyrstrtr, I did that... it gave a rather large help type output08:45
masterchiefim not good in programming08:46
Agrajagthis isn't programmign08:46
fyrestrtrdshaw: what did you type exactly.08:46
ryctorare you good browsing filesystems?08:46
dshawsudo umount /dev/sda1, then sudo mount -t auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:46
mineraleHow can I specify 'input commands' such as $ program < commands.txt  but instead of a file just a direct text $ program < "value1" ?08:46
ubunturyctor: hi08:47
fyrestrtrmasterchief: step 1 is to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b08:47
masterchiefother than reading short names yes08:47
dshawsudo mount auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:47
_w^x_I need a video file editor, that can edit .avi mpeg mpeg4 .ogg etc...08:47
fyrestrtrminerale: ermm, program foo bar zoo08:47
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mineralefyrestrtr: this program does not accept direct commands, it does some stuff then prompts for input08:48
dshaw( the second one, the first one was left over. (dont worry I took out everything before the second command)08:48
fyrestrtrdshaw: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:48
_w^x_Kino does not seem to work, I go to import one of my files from the harddisk and  Kino gives me a bunch a shit about not being able to import08:48
fyrestrtrminerale: man xargs08:48
fyrestrtr!language08:48
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:48
dshawmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,08:48
masterchiefnext?08:48
dshaw       missing codepage or other error08:48
dshaw       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try08:48
dshaw       dmesg | tail  or so08:48
fyrestrtrmasterchief: read that page08:49
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masterchiefdid08:49
masterchieftar -zxf install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz08:50
masterchief type in this?08:50
mineralefyrestrtr: i'm looking to do this: echo "public" > file.txt; oraenv < file.txt   in one step08:50
fyrestrtrmasterchief: are you reading the page I told you to go to?08:50
ubuntuyes, only when u reach to the folder where .\install file is08:50
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fyrestrtrminerale: see the man page for 'xargs'08:50
Orasis1Has anyone updated lately?08:50
sethkubuntu, .\?   no backslashes in real operating systems08:51
Orasis1Has anyone noticed a drastic ammount of slow down after upgrading?08:51
fyrestrtrdshaw: okay, something is wrong then. try sudo mount -t auto -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda108:51
sethkOrasis1, I've talked to a couple of other people who have asked that question08:51
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ubuntusethk:  right, i'm sorry08:51
sethkubuntu, :)08:51
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dshawfyrestrtr, same thing08:51
Orasis1sethk: Are you experiencing the same thing?08:51
sethkOrasis1, no, but I haven't updated yet.  You updated to dapper?08:52
mineralewhat does one call ">" and "<" when used to redirect input output ?08:52
Orasis1My system was perfect until I did this upgrade08:52
ubuntui ahd updated08:52
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ubuntubut then formmated ,08:52
fyrestrtrdshaw: hrmm ... same with sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?08:52
ubuntunow back to 508:52
Orasis1sethk: No I simply upgraded my packages on Synaptic, I was already on dapper08:52
dshawfyrestrtr, yeah08:52
sethkOrasis1, oh, so just packages from the past day, or a few days?08:52
ivxwhat media player to you guys use08:52
Orasis1Yeah, kernel - ubuntu everything that was "upgradeable"08:53
ubuntuivx:  amarok for mp3, mplayer/vlc for video :)08:53
fyrestrtrdshaw: and the same with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?08:53
dueminerale: try piping stdin? "echo "value1" | command"?08:53
Orasis1And now.. wow slow down like you would not believe even in Flux08:53
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ivxubuntu: did you have to do anything special to play *.wmv08:53
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dshawfyrestrtr, there it is. mounted08:54
ubuntuivx:  u will need codecs08:54
ubuntuivx:  mplayerhq.hu08:54
sethkOrasis1, run top, see what's using all the cpu08:54
ubuntui think is the site for it08:54
ubuntu:)08:54
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Orasis1top?08:54
ivxubuntu: thanks i'll check it out08:54
dshawfyrestrtr, thanks so much, naut seems to like all the files now.08:54
nich0sbottom08:54
nich0sidk08:54
ubuntunp08:54
masterchiefokay,so it says here it not a directory(in the terminal)08:54
nich0sdon't listent to me.08:54
sethkOrasis1, top, runs in a terminal, lists out currently running processes and what resources they are consuming08:54
sethkOrasis1, the biggest consumers at the top08:54
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fyrestrtrmasterchief: I already told you how to get it done the easy way, but apparently, you want to do it the (wrong) way, so go ahead :)08:55
mineralewhat does the shell built in command . (dot) do ? I'm being instructed to run a script by typing . oraenv (dot space oraenv) and I don't understand what it's doing08:55
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sethkminerale, the dot is the same as source08:56
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sethkminerale, it reads in commands from a file08:56
sethkminerale, for example, you can reread your .bashrc with:    . ~/.bashrc08:56
sethkminerale, that file (oraenv) probably has export and set statements to set shell variables08:57
Anubuntuhey does anyone know if the update now has the xserver patch?08:57
Anubuntuit was crashing before.08:57
Orasis1lol..08:57
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Orasis1sethk: You have to be kidding me.. that was there all this time?08:58
sethkOrasis1, that goes back to bsd unix, yes  :)08:58
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Orasis1sethk: I was typing all this -=> ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'08:58
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ubuntusethk: ever tried installing lilo on ubuntu?08:58
Orasis1sethk: lol, well thanks for saving me future time :P08:58
sethkOrasis1, you're welcome  :)08:58
atm0sphdoes anyone here use xgl & Compiz by chance?08:59
fyrestrtrsure08:59
mineralesethk: ah I see, thanks. How is that different from typing sh command ? they both execute the file line by line, right?08:59
atm0sphfyre: by chance do you know what repository I need to apt-get install gset-compiz ??  Also, I'm experiencing a bug with my ALT key.. it seems to throw whatever window is focus'd over to the next workspace to the right...08:59
mineralesethk: well, except that you must specify the full path when typing sh /some/command09:00
sethkminerale, when you  source a file, you don't start a new shell, you change things in the present shell.  When you do sh  whatever, you start a new shell09:00
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Orasis1sethk: Does top show "all" processes?, Because I do not see "Fluxbox" in that list..09:00
fyrestrtratm0sph: first, xgl/compiz is highly experimental stuff, so expect it to break, complain, eat your cat. Second, gset-compiz is no longer recommended, just use the gconf-editor.09:00
sethkminerale, so if, say, there is an export statement in the   sh  whatever,  when that command ends that shell exits and the change is lost09:00
natural20so using nautilus (breezy) my tansfers stall without ever starting.  suggestions?09:00
atm0sphwhy's it no longer recommended?09:01
masterchiefi read it over and over again. wahts the point?09:01
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atm0sphfyre: Any idea about my ALT issue?09:01
sethkOrasis1, if you make your terminal big enough, it will, otherwise it shows however many lines there are09:01
fyrestrtratm0sph: because the changes don't take affect (afaik).09:01
macogwhow do i run network-manager-gnome09:01
atm0sphhmm09:01
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macogwtyping that in doesnt make it go09:01
fyrestrtratm0sph: sounds like a keymap problem. Try resetting your keyboard mapping, or fiddle with the key settings for compiz.09:01
atm0sphhmm I have no clue how to reset my keymap...09:01
atm0sph:D09:02
Orasis1sethk: Gotcha09:02
fyrestrtratm0sph: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"09:02
ubuntumacogw:  i think gnome-network-preferences09:02
fyrestrtratm0sph: more question @ #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl09:02
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Master_Peacehi09:03
Master_Peace:D09:03
atm0sphyeah everyone's all afk tho - I'm gonna restart and try that keymap thing.. I added it to my start script09:03
atm0sphbrb09:03
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macogwthat went to proxies09:04
LMJ_WorkHello the chan09:04
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kapherophhello all :)09:04
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tryggIs there any easy way to apt-get the codecs for mplayer?09:05
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fyrestrtrtrygg: mplayer includes most of the codecs.09:05
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tryggBut not all. :09:05
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fyrestrtrlike what?09:05
Vide80hi09:05
knubbeisnt mplayer broken nowadays?09:05
atm0sphfyrestarter your keymap thingie worked - problem solved.  Thanks09:05
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ubuntumacogw:  try network-admin09:05
tryggThe problem could btw be me, but i cant play .wvv09:06
Vide80anyone having success in configuring NUT (Network UPS manager) on ubuntu dapper?09:06
trygg.wmv*09:06
kapherophhowdy video80 :)09:06
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fyrestrtrtrygg: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:06
atm0sphnow would anyone know why my Gaim crashes as soon as MSN connects?09:06
fyrestrtrtrygg: you need the w32codecs09:06
ryctorcus MSN sucks09:06
tryggYeh i know, i was wondering if there is any fast way to do it? :)09:06
ubunturyctor:  lol09:06
atm0sphseriously tho09:06
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atm0sphwhats the real reason?09:06
ubuntuatm0sph:  use amsn09:06
LMJ_WorkI have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?09:07
fyrestrtratm0sph: msn doesn't like you, and they are angry you aren't using vista.09:07
atm0sphhaha09:07
atm0spheff vista.09:07
tryggatm0sph: dont use amsn, use emesene if you just want a very lightweight msnclone09:07
ryctorhasta la Vista, Baby09:07
albackerguys i installed flash, but still firefox doesnt view flash pages what to do ? i used RestrictedFormats it didnt work, did the manual way, didnt work either, than did automatix, and it didnt still work ! ANY IDEA ?09:07
Madpilotryctor, you mean Virusta, right?09:07
nich0s!ask > nich0s09:07
ryctorlol09:07
fyrestrtratm0sph: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png ;)09:08
atm0sphalbacker there's only flash 7 for linux thus far..  most flash nowadays is 8 or 9...  so.. until we get a better flash client we're hooped09:08
Scottrixhey, has anyone here got a logitech G15 keyboard?09:08
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ubuntuany1 tried picasa?09:08
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mdkehow can I kill a process that doesn't want to die? I tried "kill pid", but it's still hanging around09:09
atm0spho0o0o fyre..  how'd you skin it up like that? :D09:09
fyrestrtrubuntu: f-spot does it for me.09:09
nich0sTo be honest, I don't even know why kind of keyboard I am using :P09:09
fyrestrtrmdke: sudo kill -9 pid09:09
ryctoralbacker: did you tried copying the  two files in /.mozilla or /usr/lib/browser-plugins or something like that?09:09
ubuntui just use gthumb09:09
ubuntuwork gr8 for me09:09
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fyrestrtratm0sph: xgl + compiz + dual screen :)09:09
atm0sphAND Dual monitors09:09
atm0sphniuce09:09
ubuntui tried picasa, it is slow09:09
atm0sphdude09:09
mdkefyrestrtr: brilliant, that's done it, thanks09:09
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ubuntuatm0sph:  try using -9 with kill ammand09:10
ubuntucommand*09:10
atm0sphwhy's that?09:10
fyrestrtrmdke: fyi, if its a window that's stuck or won't close, alt+f2 xkill and when the cursor changes to skull and bones, one left click on the offending window will also take care of it.09:10
ubuntuto force it to kill09:10
masterchiefr u guys telling me to extract this to a cd?09:10
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Anubuntuhey, how do I get ubuntu to detect a sata harddrive that I plug in while the system is on? (sata IS hotswappable, before anyone reprimands me on that)09:11
Scottrixcool thats a good thing to know09:11
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atm0sphmy alt-f2 brings up a run command dialog09:11
fyrestrtratm0sph: yeah, then type xkill and hit enter :)09:11
nich0sSATA is... awww. :P09:11
Scottrixah i see09:11
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MadpilotAnubuntu, SATA isn't actually hotswappable on some motherboards - my mobo does SATA, but not hotswap.09:11
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fyrestrtrthere is also a panel applet for it, but I don't use it personally. You might find it handy. Does the same thing.09:12
masterchiefinda jua ku merati....kamu ani menolong kah apa?09:12
AnubuntuMadpilot, well its done it in windows. so I am assuming it is.09:12
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masterchiefpaham bahasa melayu09:12
fyrestrtrAnubuntu: the swappable or not is going to depend on how well your chipset is supported.09:12
masterchiefbauta gila kah kamu ani?09:13
atm0sphfyre: to get dual monitors working, what do I need to alter in my xorg.conf?09:13
fyrestrtratm0sph: are you using nvidia or ati or something else?09:13
Anubuntuick, so I should just restart then...09:13
atm0sphnvidia09:13
Anubuntuill go do that.09:13
ubuntuwell time to go09:13
fyrestrtratm0sph: use TwinView, easy as pie to setup.09:13
ubuntulater guys09:13
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macogwalbacker: flash 9 isnt available for linux.  they last one released was flash 7.  what you can do is download mozilla for windows and install it in wine, then do the same with flash 9.  put flash 9 into that windows mozilla, and run the whole chunk on wine09:13
Anubuntuoh, one last quesion, why does it only give the option for hibernate when I hit the shutdown button?09:13
macogwbecause you have the same bug as me09:14
macogwuse sudo reboot to restart09:14
macogwand sudo halt to shut down09:14
atm0sphcan you advise on twinview setup?  I've never used it before..09:14
Geoffrey2sethk, just to let you know, the mouse just froze again...only messages I saw in dmesg say VFS: busy inodes on changed media09:14
atm0sphhmm09:14
atm0sphlemme upload my xorg.conf09:15
atm0sphsec09:15
fyrestrtratm0sph: sure, hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then hit enter to open up your xorg.conf file.09:15
tryggfyrestrtr: thanks, the w32codecs did it. :)09:15
atm0sphI'm there09:15
fyrestrtratm0sph: you already have your nvidia drivers setup, right?09:15
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atm0sphyeah09:16
atm0sphI got ompiz running no problem09:16
fyrestrtrokay now scroll down to Section "Screen"09:16
atm0sphoh question re: that - can I just wipe out all but one of the SubSections09:16
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atm0sphI notice they all have differnet bit-depths, but I only want to you 24.. so..  wiping the other ones makes sense?09:17
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fyrestrtratm0sph: if you only use one color depth, sure.09:17
ISOLATEDViRuSIm a little lost, this is a quick fix though. How do i make a 'launcher' on my desktop?09:17
fyrestrtratm0sph: they are there for a reason, but for all practical purposes, you can delete them.09:17
atm0sphok09:17
atm0sphdone.09:17
ISOLATEDViRuSAnd, how do i link it to a file?09:17
atm0sphwhat do I need to ad?09:17
atm0sphadd09:17
masterchiefguys?09:17
fyrestrtrISOLATEDViRuS: right click on the desktop :)09:17
MadpilotISOLATEDViRuS, right-click on your desktop, choose Create Launcher09:17
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ISOLATEDViRuSwell, i do that, but i dont understand what to do after that...09:18
fyrestrtratm0sph: create a few blank lines above DefaultDepth 2409:18
kapherophfyrestrtr: is it ok if i listen in? i'm trying the same thing...09:18
atm0sphk09:18
fyrestrtrkapheroph: I can't stop you, and you are welcome to ask questions.09:18
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masterchiefatleast tell me how to install real player ?09:18
fyrestrtrtype Option "CoolBits" "1"09:18
MadpilotISOLATEDViRuS, what're you trying to do with the launcher?09:18
fyrestrtrthen, Option "TwinView" "true"09:18
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kapherophthanks :)09:19
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atm0sphdone..09:19
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gotamaHi!09:19
atm0sphtabs in place of spaces ok?09:19
atm0sphOption"TwinView""true"09:19
fyrestrtrnow, next line. In my setup, my primary monitor is on the left, the secondary is on the right. So I put Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" -- as in 'right of the primary monitor'.09:19
atm0sphoh it parses em09:19
fyrestrtratm0sph: yeah.09:20
atm0sphk I'll want LEftOf then09:20
gotamaIs there anything like pxeboot.tar.gz for xubuntu?09:20
fyrestrtrnext line, type Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True"09:20
atm0sphk got it09:21
ISOLATEDViRuSMadpilot, you there?09:21
atm0sphanything else?09:21
MadpilotISOLATEDViRuS, yes09:21
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fyrestrtrnow, the next line defines the screen resolutions of the monitors. Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024" -- adjust to your taste.09:21
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atm0sphk does it list left to right or primary, secondary09:22
ISOLATEDViRuSMadpilot: Im trying to have the launcher link to a Compiz toggle script09:22
sethkgotama, pxeboot is the same for any flavor of ubuntu (or of linux, for that matter)09:22
fyrestrtratm0sph: I believe primary,secondary09:22
atm0sphk done.09:22
fyrestrtrISOLATEDViRuS: there is a nice applet that does that at compiz.net forums.09:22
MadpilotISOLATEDViRuS, OK, put the name or path to the script in the "Command" line, and whatever you like in the other slots. Ignore the Advanced tab.09:23
atm0sphdo I have to create any subsections or anything for this, or is this just going to be what takes effect and the subsections wont matter?09:23
gotamaIn what part of the setup I tell pxeboot that must install xubuntu?09:23
fyrestrtrokay, next two are really self explanatory. Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "24.0 - 80.0" and Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0", obviously, change to match your setup.09:23
fyrestrtratm0sph: no, subsections don't matter. just add it before the DefaultDepth 24 line.09:24
ISOLATEDViRuSok, thanks alot again!09:24
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zithowai would like to install ubuntu instead of my current distro (fedora).  what's the best way to back up the contents of that install so I don't lose anything?09:25
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zithowajust copy the root?09:25
atm0sphuhmm09:25
atm0sphhmm09:25
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fyrestrtratm0sph: here is mine for reference > http://pastebin.com/77462509:25
atm0sphpardon my ignorance, but in Windows it just sets it to 75 hz...  I don't know the horizontal / verticle stuff09:25
fyrestrtratm0sph: look it up, you don't want to guess this part. Just google your monitor's model number.09:26
grigoradoes anyone know how to make Banshee use lame and how to make it import wav files? thanks09:26
Geoffrey2my external mouse has just frozen for the umpteenth time...can anyone help me troubleshoot why that is happening?09:26
atm0sphhmm09:26
atm0sphthis is for the secondary monitor right?09:26
atm0sphhow do I define it for the primary?09:26
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atm0sphOption "FirstMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0"09:26
atm0sph?09:26
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fyrestrtrfor the primary you define it in Section "Monitor"09:27
atm0sphok09:27
atm0sphuhmm09:27
atm0sphalso, I have NO idea what my secondary monitor is re: model number09:27
atm0sphit's a crappy dell 14 inch my buddy gave me09:27
atm0sphlets wing it and see what happens ;)09:27
fyrestrtratm0sph: ermm, lets not.09:27
ISOLATEDViRuSguys, whats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?09:27
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atm0sphheh ok.. uhmm.. hmm09:28
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fyrestrtratm0sph: updated xorg snippet > http://pastebin.com/77462709:28
masterchiefneed help! please, im very desperate right now.09:28
ISOLATEDViRuSwhats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?09:28
fyrestrtrISOLATEDViRuS: I believe 16x1609:28
grigoraanyone knows how to get Banshee to use lame?09:28
Anubuntuhow do I uninstall evolution (since I use thunderbird) and does anything else rely on it?09:28
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SeeDedoes anyone here connect to ubuntu through VNC? and what does it look like?09:29
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masterchiefany of u reading dis?09:29
cfeddeSeeDe: works well for me.09:29
fyrestrtratm0sph: look in the back of the monitor, it will tell you the model number. Then google the model number to get the specs. If you 'wing it' you might end up frying the monitor.09:29
kapherophfyrestrtr: thanks :)09:29
atm0sphhaha ok09:29
atm0sphgimmie a few09:29
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bilss_hi09:30
SeeDecfedde: what OS are you connecting from?09:30
cfeddeSeeDe: ultravnc on windows XP, also ubuntu to ubuntu just for testing.09:30
cfeddeand the other way too.09:30
masterchieffyrestrtr, dont blame me because i never used ubuntu before09:31
atm0sphwell what do you know09:31
atm0sphit was there09:31
atm0sphsec09:31
fyrestrtrmasterchief: I'm not blaming you for anything?09:31
bilss_  I have a09:31
bilss_lex1user (uid:1000 gid:1000)09:31
SeeDecfedde: mmmmm. do you need to forward to an X server or anything on windows or does ultravnc just work by itself?09:31
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SeeDeim trying to connect from OSX09:31
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masterchiefi already check d directory..its there but once i try its says its not a directory09:31
bilss_need to delete /home/lex09:32
masterchiefPlease enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,09:32
masterchiefor Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins09:32
masterchiefWARNING: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is not a directory.09:32
masterchiefsee09:32
atm0sphFyre: http://pastebin.com/77462909:32
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DanaGAaaargh, I can't get any visualizations working in Amarok.09:33
fyrestrtrmasterchief: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:33
masterchiefi already tried wiyh and without the plugin09:33
atm0sphfurestrtr: what do you get form this though...  this is my primary - I figure I might as well set it up seeings how we're here..  : http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/Panasonic_PanaSync_E70i__539302909:33
DanaGHas ANYONE gotten Amarok visualizations to work?09:34
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fyrestrtratm0sph: that looks okay. Now save the file, and restart X. To restart X, close all applications and logout till you get to the login screen. Then hit ctrl+alt+backspace09:34
bilss_fyrestrtr:  I have a09:35
bilss_lex user (uid:1000 gid:1000)   The homedir is wrong and the uid09:35
bilss_should be under 1000 for system generated accounts.09:35
atm0sphk - I'll be back in a sec09:35
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SeeDeanyone else access ubuntu through VNC?09:36
fyrestrtrbilss_: okay.09:36
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ucordesmy vmware display stays black when i try to run it in XGL. anybody else had that problem?09:36
atm0sph_hey fyrestrtr - now I'm on the OTHER monitor, but it's still single... it's like it just changed which one my primary was09:36
fyrestrtrucordes: xgl will not work properly on vmware.09:36
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DanaGNo, I think his CLIENT is not working, and the host is XGL.09:36
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masterchiefmasterchief@masterchief-laptop:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:36
masterchiefReading package lists... Done09:36
masterchiefBuilding dependency tree... Done09:36
masterchiefE: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree09:36
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masterchief?09:37
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KrakensDenmasterchief, did you enable universe/multiverse?09:37
masterchief? wht is that09:37
fyrestrtrmasterchief: enable the universe and multiverse repositories. As I told you, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -- all instructions are there to get this going.09:37
ucordesfyrestrtr: it did work wonderful before. only thing didn't work was fulscreen09:37
kapherophfyrestrtr:  all i can find mine is it's a diamond view 50-60z. I cant seem to find much else on google apart from winddows drivers, any ideas?09:37
bilss_fyrestrtr: need to Delete the lexuser (userdel lex)09:37
bilss_Delete the lex group (groupdel lex)09:37
bilss_Check the /etc/passwd file and make sure there are no entries for09:37
bilss_ lex.09:37
duckdownHey all.   Let's say I have 3 tabs in gnome-terminal open at once (I would be willing to use another terminal) and I want to execute a command at the same time in all 3 tabs..  Like I would type the command but not press enter on all 3 windows.  Then, is there a way to send the ENTER command at once for all of them without having to switch tabs?  (like a mass enter )09:38
ucordesright. my host is xgl and guest is win2k09:38
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kapherophfyrstrtr: er...on the sync and refresh options...09:38
fyrestrtrucordes: eh, xgl is experimental stuff, might want to check with #xgl09:38
atm0sphkahperoph: you looking for your refresh rates for your monitor?09:39
fyrestrtrkapheroph: what brand is it again?09:39
NickGarveyor.. #ubuntu-xgl09:39
fyrestrtrbilss_: okay, I don't understand your question?09:39
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kapherophfyrestrtr: it's a diamond view09:40
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fyrestrtrkapheroph: diamond view ____ ?09:40
kapherophatm0sph: yes09:40
fyrestrtrkapheroph: look at the back and get the exact model number.09:40
bilss_fyrestrtr: i will be back later09:40
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kapherophfyrestrtr: 1554e09:41
atm0sphkkapheroph: do you have a bunch of numbers on the back of your monitor?  I just had to pull mine out..  it was labelled as "Model Number", and what you're looking for are the "Specifications"09:41
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kapherophatm0sph: cheers i just forgot to put that bit in.......09:42
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atm0sphfyrestrtr: I see you're all over the place with the support..  just wanna make sure you saw my text re: no dual monitors09:43
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tryggHeh, how can i edit the icons for all the mime-types?09:43
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kapherophfyrestrtr: nevermind i found it, sorry i should have looked harder since you are rather busy09:47
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atm0sphbrb09:49
atmOsphrestarting X09:49
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atm0sphhmmm09:50
atm0sphno dice - still only on one monitor...09:50
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atm0sphw/b09:50
fyrestrtrso what's the story with the dual monitors?09:50
atm0sphwell09:50
atm0spheverything went to the left monitor now09:50
atm0sphand the right monitor went out09:50
atm0sphso09:50
atm0sphI thogut maybe they both need to be the same resolution09:50
ompaul!enter09:50
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.09:50
kapherophjust about to restart x09:51
Corporal_DirgeI've been working on dual monitors for 3 months.. Still nothing for me either.09:51
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atm0sphso I changed it both to 1152x864, and it changed the resolution, but no go on the dual displays...09:51
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fyrestrtratm0sph: check your xorg against mine @ http://pastebin.com/774627 if you are missing any lines, or there are any typos, correct them, and try again. When you restart your computer, do you get the same display on both screens?09:52
atm0sphI do get the same on both screens when I reboot09:52
atm0sphor if I ctrl-alt-f1 to my bitchx session09:52
atmOsphsee when I'm here I get botch screens cloned09:52
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atm0sphhere in x, no .. just one09:52
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Vancouver_RocksHi, Can i share my hard drive and printer? ubuntu is on my desktop, i have a wirless router and shre internet for my leptop throgh wirless09:53
Vancouver_Rockscan i browse files like i do on xp?09:53
ISOLATEDViRuSOk, ive installed XGL and Compiz, do i have to manually configure what effects i want to happen when i enable compiz?09:53
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ompaulatm0sph, please put all your comments on one line, and do not use the enter key in place of a comma, thanks - it makes it easier for others to use the channel09:54
atm0sphsorry - will do ompaul09:54
fyrestrtrISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl09:54
LMJ_WorkI have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?09:54
bezibaerchenwhat can i do bout the following: updatemanager is signaling udates. i open it and selsect to install the updates, what it does, is to look for updates again. on shell it works09:54
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atm0sphfyrestrtr: The only line you have that I don't is Option "CoolBits" "1"09:55
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blenddhi all, im having a problem with the microphone detection... actually i have no clue what it is, the mic seems active and all but when i try to use VOIP softwares, it just doesnt detect it... any1 knows how to fix that?09:56
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blenddsame problem with SKype or Ekiga09:56
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ompaulbezibaerchen, when update manager signals updates, normally you give it the password, it then creates a list of possible updates, then you install and then it checks again09:57
ISOLATEDViRuSyeah, theres basically noone answering questions in ubuntu-xgl09:58
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ompaulblendd, click on the speaker icon top right of your desktop, choose capture and make sure the mic is not muted (a red x)09:58
blenddompaul did it... just not working :s09:59
Vancouver_RocksCan i make a network between Windows and ubuntu to share files and printer? i share internet through wirless router09:59
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bezibaerchenompaul: well, i know how it normally SHOULD work. atm it works as u described, with the problem, that the installation-step is missing09:59
ompaulISOLATEDViRuS, well it is not in the base disto so it falls outside of the support for this channel as it is beta software, it is very energy intensive if it does not work out of the box, all I can do for you is this09:59
ompaul!xgl > ISOLATEDViRuS10:00
ompaulISOLATEDViRuS, please read the message from the bot10:00
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ompaulbezibaerchen, what is it offering to update?10:00
atm0sphon this tutorial here Fyrestrtr, it says to unplug the monitor while configuring..  is that neccessary in your opinion?10:00
atm0sphhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117410:00
MatthewVVancouver_Rocks, you can, the guides on the wiki are probably the best thing to follow...10:01
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Vancouver_Rockscan u pls tell me the link?10:01
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MatthewVVancouver_Rocks, just a moment10:01
Vancouver_Rocksthanks10:01
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manmadhahow to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)10:02
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manmadhahow to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)10:02
kapherophfyrestrtr: thank you very much for your help!10:02
ompaulblendd, you can try the command line tool, >> alsamixer << and make sure nothing else is muted much more detail, (you can get this by playing around with the "edit/preferences" on the gui10:02
MatthewVVancouver_Rocks, probably best if you take a look at all thats on the wiki, because there are a few guides on how to do different things.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  http://help.ubuntu.com/ may also help.. just do a search for what you want10:03
manopulushello, /usr/lib/i586 show owner as ? and i do not have permissions to change. eve as root. it is after reboot, i think, my disk died. some files and directories in /usr/lib/ is in this state. how i can resolve issue fast? and how can check disk for integirity?10:03
abaddonokay I have a question regarding installing using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick and it doesn't boot. I am running from an thinkpad x60 so I can't use a cd. When I try to boot I get to a point and it says linux not found boot: or something to that extent. Can anyone help me? I have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg 10:03
abaddonReply With Quote10:03
blenddompaul thanks mate i will try stuff now10:03
manmadhahow to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)10:03
MatthewVmanmadha, for graphics programs, maybe start by looking at Applications --> Add/Remove... and the graphics section10:03
Vancouver_RocksThanks Matthew10:04
MatthewVmanmadha, please don't repeat yourself a few times a minute... it won't get you help any faster10:04
NickGarveyhow do you run vim scripts?10:04
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manmadhak10:04
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MatthewVVancouver_Rocks, no problem... if you run into a specific problem that you can't find a solution to, just ask around here :)10:04
bezibaerchenompaul: several mesa-stuff10:04
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atm0sphfyrestrtr hmm no go..  :(  do you think it's because the monitors have different refresh rates?10:05
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ompaulbezibaerchen, did you alter your sources recently?10:05
root_hi all.. i need help. my pc will only start up X in recovery mode10:05
bezibaerchenompaul: nope10:05
atm0sphI was ready and it said TwinView basically emulates one monitor on both Heads of the vid-card, so X thinks it's just a wide display..  I could see refresh rate becoming a problem in that regard.. no?10:05
root_i tryed upgrading | degrading the xserver-xorg-core but it didnt help10:06
kapherophatm0sph: mines is working a treat :) i had to tweak around with the resolution a couple of times though10:06
root_my pc just freezed.10:06
ompaulbezibaerchen, try this, sudo apt-get update on the command line with icon closed, then start again10:06
atm0sphcan I see your xorg.conf file kapheroph?  in a /msg perhaps?10:07
MatthewVatm0sph, when using xinerama (i think that twinview works the same way) both monitors must operate at the same res and, i think, refresh rate10:07
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abaddoncan anyone help me with usb install of ubuntu?10:07
knurgis it possible to get an tray-icon for x-chat gnome in xfce?10:07
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atm0sphmatthewV: Yeah that's why I think IU have a problem - my monitors are a 17 inch that and a 14 inch, but they run different refresh rates, so I'm wondering if that's causing it to fail..  It's weird because it moved from my Primary display over to my secondary display, but it shut off my primary..10:08
manmadha!CG10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about CG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
MatthewVatm0sph, I'm using a 17" and 15" running from two seperate cards.. and that was one thing i came accross when setting up, that both need the same res10:08
atm0sphI changed em both to the same res though...10:08
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MatthewVatm0sph, i think that when it changes the display over like that, it usually means that it can't output to the first..10:09
MatthewVatm0sph, you following a guide at all?10:10
atm0sphhmm..10:10
atm0sphnaw fyrestrtr was helping me out.. I've basically got all my configuration stuff done..  it's just not working10:10
atm0sphand now I have another problem..  my xchat window has moved higher than I can reach and it's offscreen - there a fix for that?10:10
atm0sphbesides restarting x?10:10
MatthewVatm0sph, oh i was going to say a guide like might help, and maximising the xchat window from the taskbar might help10:11
kintaro0ehi guys..i'm just confused with .bashrc and .bash_profile whats the difference?10:11
MatthewVatm0sph, maybe somethign like http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors10:11
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bezibaerchenompaul: doesn't work either10:12
kapherophatm0sph: sure hang a sec10:12
Seveaskintaro0e, bash_profile is only executed for login shells and usually calls .bashrc10:12
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Seveasnon-login shells merely use .bashrc10:13
jarrod_how do i download smp kernel10:13
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ompaulbezibaerchen, something be broken, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic10:13
kintaro0eSeveas what do you mean non-login?10:13
abaddoncan anyone please help me with a usb install of ubuntu?10:13
kintaro0e:)10:13
bezibaerchenompaul: dude, apt-get upgrade on shell works10:13
bezibaerchenonly grafical stuff doesn't10:13
jarrod_i seem to just be able to get 2.4.10:13
Flannelabaddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  will give you details10:13
jarrod_2.4.2710:14
abaddonrihgt I looked htere10:14
abaddonand I need more help10:14
abaddonI followed the instructoins10:14
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ompaulbezibaerchen, read that last one again10:14
abaddonit boots to syslinux10:14
ompaul!enter10:14
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jarrod_how do i get and install smp kernel10:14
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bezibaerchenompaul: no changes after reconfigure10:15
Flannelabaddon: what problems you having then?10:15
abaddonFlannel: sorry, I guess I just got exicted from a responce, I get a message that says linux not found boot: and anything I enter doesn't do anyhting10:16
Flannelabaddon: how far have you gotten? (and which page?)10:16
jarrod_hello10:16
ompaulbezibaerchen, well update from the command line - then go sit back and wait on the next one from the gui if still broken uninstall synaptic and reinstall it10:16
abaddonI have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg I am pretty sure my laptop supports usb booting and so does my thumb drive it is formatted fat16 and is about a gig. thanks10:16
abaddonReply With Quote10:16
bezibaerchenompaul: it IS the 2nd where gui doesn't work10:16
jarrod_how do i get the latest kernel cant seem to get it out of the repositories10:17
fdsdHey guys, what is the differnece between apt-get remove --purge app or just plain apt-get remove app?10:18
Flannelabaddon: So, youre installing ubuntu from a thumbdrive?10:18
Flannelfdsd: --purge removes config files10:18
fdsdFlannel, oh cool10:18
ompauljarrod_,  this is what you want - sudo apt-get install >> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7-smp or kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp10:18
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abaddonflannel: I would like to10:18
Flannelfdsd: (the equivalent of "complete removal" vs "remove" in synaptic)10:18
kapherophatm0ph: can you pm me for it?10:18
fdsdFlannel, ok10:18
kapherophatm0sph: can you pm me for it?10:18
ompaulbezibaerchen, well I am at a lose as you are the only person reporting such an issue it is beyond my personal kb on other ways to approach that as an issue10:19
ompaulbezibaerchen, make that loss10:19
bezibaerchenompaul: reinstall synaptic?10:19
ompaulbezibaerchen, I already said that eariler10:19
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bezibaerchenompaul: with which command?10:20
ompaul!reinstall10:20
ubotuTo renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages10:20
manmadhaMatthai,10:20
abaddonFlannel: I'm on an thinkpad x60 and thought usb would be the easiest non cd install, interms of the install instructions for usb drives I am between editing syslinux.cfg and booting from the falsh drive10:21
ompaulbezibaerchen, before you do stick your /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to have a look at10:21
manmadhaMatthai, he my cc compiler does not recognice graphics.h.....etc header files10:21
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Flannelabaddon: so, You aren't successfully booting to syslinux then?10:22
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manmadhahow to do graphics programs in linux?10:22
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Deaigocan someone tell me how i can get a external hdd(fat32) to pretty much be chmod 777?10:22
abaddonflannel: I am my thumb drive is booting and I get to a menu that says boot:10:23
Madpilotmanmadha, the Gimp, which is like Photoshop, is installed by default - Inkscape is worth exploring too, it's a great graphics app10:23
Smeggyhow much space is occupied by a default ubuntu install?10:23
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manmadhaMadpilot, no i want to do programs.......(in c)10:24
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atm0sphhmm well no go.10:24
atm0sphback to one monitor I suppose.10:24
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Flannelabaddon: and you copied the contents of the ISO?10:24
LMJ_WorkDeaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 77710:24
abaddonflannel: yes10:24
knurgi have installed easy-ubuntu, but nvidia driver doesnt seem to be running after reboot10:24
z3r0#irc10:24
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jarrod_hello10:25
jarrod_how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic10:25
Flannelabaddon: Only thing I can think of to suggest is try the steps after the first again, re-copy everything, rename everything, etc.  make sure you reduce paths correctly and such.10:26
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DeaigoLMJ_Work so where do i go to change this?10:26
abaddonflannel: I already did that about 4 times with no luck trying different things10:26
LMJ_Workmanmadha : check The Gimp, Scribus, Inkscape, autotrace, Wings3D, cinepaint, vips10:26
manmadhaany one know how to do graphics problems using 'C'10:27
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jarrod_how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic10:27
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manmadhaLMJ_Work, they support programming?10:27
SpaceFrogUrgent help needed... My Girlfriend's ubuntu computer just screwed up. Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.ca/14727210:27
SpaceFrogIt won't boot into X10:27
Flannelabaddon: heh, Um, I don't know then.  You might try checking out syslinux's documentation10:27
Smeggyhmm10:27
Smeggyatm0sph, what's the problem with twinview?10:28
FlannelSpaceFrog: whats the error you get?10:28
SpaceFrogno screens found10:28
FlannelSpaceFrog: see topic10:28
SpaceFrogit was working earlier today, nothing had been changed that i know of.10:28
tryggAnyone know how to edit the icons for all the mime-types?10:28
MadpilotSpaceFrog, there was an X update10:28
FlannelSpaceFrog: you updated to a bad X package (or rebooted after updating to it)10:28
manopulushow with apt-get i can re-install all installed packages?10:28
abaddonflannel: doesn't seem like a syslinux problem though because I do get to boot: I will ook into it10:28
SpaceFrogahh, i see. Thankyou10:28
bezibaerchenompaul: just tried to approach the prob form another side. did a "gksudo update-manager" to see some output. afer choosing to install the updates, message is "/usr/sbin/synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", libvte4 is installed10:28
LMJ_WorkAbout graphics manmadha :  http://www.ucc.fr/forums/index.php/topic,21.0.html    or www.ucc.fr10:28
jarrod_how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic10:29
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manmadhaLMJ_Work, thank u10:29
Flanneljarrod_: you're on breezy?10:29
atm0sphsmeggy: it won't work..  when I configure it according to specs it moves everything to my secondary monitor (on the left), but disables my primary monitor...  no dual displays10:29
jarrod_on dapper10:29
jarrod_flannel: on dapper10:29
Flanneljarrod_: what do you want to update to?10:29
Smeggyatm0sph, can you put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?10:30
jarrod_any smp kernel10:30
jarrod_i am using 2.6 something and not smp i want to use my dual core10:30
atm0sphyeah one sec smeggy10:30
jarrod_2.4 crashes on boot10:30
atm0sphSmeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2152910:31
jarrod_not sure why i downgraded10:31
atm0sphI have it commented out right now so I can use my primary monitor ..  it's a 17inch..  without those commented lines under the screen section everything moves over to my 15 inch which is to the left10:31
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LMJ_Workin /etc/fstab   maybe check http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)10:31
ompaulbezibaerchen, have you installed  xgl or some such?10:32
Flanneljarrod_: the 2.4 kernels are in universe, that's most likely why theyre crashing10:32
smelly_soxlinux-image-2.6.15.16-26-686 contains SMP support10:32
jarrod_i show just one cpu10:33
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jarrod_how do i get that linux image10:33
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smelly_soxsynaptic10:33
bezibaerchenompaul: nafaik, dpkg -l | grep -i xgl doesn't match anything10:33
abaddonFlannel: can you refer me to anyone or anything specific? regarding my usb issues10:33
jarrod_it doesnt show up in synaptic10:34
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atm0sphsmeggy: any ideas?10:34
Smeggyatm0sph, try moving the twinview options into the device section and adding Option "NVreg_SoftEDID" "true"10:34
smelly_soxsearch for SMP using 'Name and Description"10:34
jarrod_ok10:34
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atm0sphall the twinview options10:35
atm0sphsmeggy: as in everything that's commented out?10:35
Smeggyatm0sph, yes.10:35
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bezibaerchenompaul: i can't start synaptic, that seems the problem. if i try, i also get the libvte-error10:36
jarrod_thank you10:36
jarrod_i am an idiot i was looking up kernel not linux image10:36
jarrod_thanks alot10:36
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Jokeurhello/ salut tlm/everybody is this chat only in english or french too ?10:36
atm0sphsmeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2153010:37
smelly_soxcheers jarrod10:37
smelly_soxmy sox stink10:37
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Smeggyatm0sph, yes.10:37
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SpaceFrogThanks for your help, guys. X is working again.10:37
FlannelJokeur: english only, for french, #ubuntu-fr10:37
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atm0sphbrb10:38
Aliexziexit10:38
JokeurFlannel:  on this server ?10:38
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mcphailbezibaerchen: it is the latest update from the quinn repos which have broken synaptic10:38
ompaulbezibaerchen, give me a monent10:38
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abaddonpeace out10:38
FlannelJokeur: right10:38
bezibaercheni've only got libvte.so.9, but not libvte.so.410:38
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mcphailbezibaerchen: read my above comment10:39
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JokeurFlannel: thank you very much :)10:39
bezibaerchenmcphail: how is the url of quinn repos? dunno, whether i use them10:39
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atm0sphsmeggy: so no go ..  hmm..10:39
ompaulbezibaerchen, "ln -s libvte.so.9 libvte.so.4" in the directory where .9 exists10:39
Smeggyatm0sph, did it do anything different?10:39
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knurghow does one get the nvidia driver to run? ive installed easy-ubuntu10:39
atm0spheverything went back to the left monitor10:39
ompaulbezibaerchen, I think sudo will be in order10:39
Smeggyhmm10:39
atm0sphthen my right monitor just went into standbye10:39
mcphailbezibaerchen: they are the compiz/xgl repos10:39
smelly_soxbye all10:40
bezibaerchenompaul: thats what i was thinking about, wasn't sure, but i trust you :-)10:40
Smeggyatm0sph, trying giving it the actaul modes for the second monitor instead of relying on the display id data?10:40
bezibaerchenmcphail: got no compiz/xgl10:40
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bezibaercheni'll try linking10:40
atm0sphsmeggy: the refresh you mean?10:40
Jokeurgood bye everybody have a good day10:40
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Smeggyatm0sph, that would also mean removing the 'useedidfreqs' option.10:40
ompaulbezibaerchen, did you ever try to install it?10:40
Smeggyatm0sph, yes the refresh rates.10:40
bezibaerchenompaul: don't think so10:40
mcphailbezibaerchen: do you have the compiz or beerorkid repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?10:41
atm0sphsmeggy: I did that originally and it didn't work either..  that's why I set it to the auto setting..  I can't find the modes for my primary monitor, and considering that TwinView emulates both monitors as ONE output, I assumed they had to be equal..  so by default they'll go to 60 hz if I'm not mistaken.10:41
ompaulbezibaerchen, the presence of repos other than the "offical ones can lead to breakages" and as you are seeing not nice ones10:41
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atm0sphin all honesty I'm kind of tired of fiddling with it.. I'm gonna change it back to my bigger monitor and go play some pokerstars.. :)10:41
atm0sphI appreciate your help though guys - hasta maniata10:41
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octan!!nvidia10:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:41
ompaulbezibaerchen, I have a phrase for these things, bringing the reliablity of windows to linux }:->10:42
bezibaerchenmcphail: yeah, beerorkid matched, was addes by automatix. so no symbolic linking, just kicking berrorkid and do upgrade?10:42
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bezibaerchenor is symbolic linking still needed?10:42
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ompaulbezibaerchen, when automatix is involved you can't tell what it has done (you can ask in #automatix) it is not supported here10:43
bezibaerchenompaul: well, it seems that beerorkid was added by automatix10:44
ompaul!automatix10:44
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.10:44
SmeggySo, can someone tell me how much space a default Ubuntu install takes?10:44
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MatthewVSmeggy, a couple of gig...10:44
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ompaulSmeggy, you really want to have a minimum of 5 gigs to make andy use of it, but I give it complete machines with the smallest I support bring 9gig scsi10:45
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SmeggyHmm, I want to put Ubuntu on my ibook and I can only spare 5gig, is that going to be enough?10:46
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DarkRainI transfered a bunch of directories from windows, and it left a thumbs.db in every directory, can someone give me a terminal command that will search and remove all of them?10:46
ompaulSmeggy, not for getting good use out of it you really should give it a bit more10:46
thoreauputicSmeggy: yes, but you won't have a lot of room to expand :)10:46
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gnomefreakompaul: the libcte bug looks fixed or it was never an issue for me i just did updates today after yesterdays updates for compiz10:46
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Smeggyompaul, Ubuntu can read hfs+ though, so I should be able to access my media from my mac os partition?10:47
ompaulgnomefreak, your an edgy person at the best of times10:47
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gnomefreakim on dapper atm :)10:47
thoreauputicSmeggy: yes, you can10:47
bezibaerchenompaul: fyi: symbolic linking did the trick10:47
Smeggycheers guys :)10:47
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bezibaerchenthx for help10:47
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thoreauputicSmeggy: you will need an fstab line10:47
gnomefreakack in edgy yet10:47
manopulusplease someone tell - how with apt-get i can reinstall all packages in system10:47
paulhowardMorning all - I need help!!  need to enable desktop sharing but I'm at work and all i can do is ssh into my machine - is there any way of enabling it from the CLI?10:48
gnomefreakmanopulus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>10:48
ompaulSmeggy, for this reason ( thoreauputic answersing - you would be better asking the channel I don't run apple hardware )10:48
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Smeggy:) thanks10:48
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ompaul!vnc10:49
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.10:49
ompaulpaulhoward, ^^^10:49
thoreauputicSmeggy: I hve this line ( yours will vary according to where your mac stuff lives)10:49
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thoreauputic/dev/hda3       /media/macosx  hfsplus  users,noauto  0     010:49
paulhowardyeah I  know how to do it with port forwarding I just forgot to enable the desktop sharing before I left for work10:49
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Smeggyexcellent, thanks thoreauputic10:49
Smeggydo you run ubuntu on a mac thoreauputic?10:49
thoreauputicSmeggy: if you want it to mount on boot you would use "auto" instead of "noauto"10:50
rast4anyone hear anything about a laptop/pc crashing while streaming media via Samba shares?10:50
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thoreauputicSmeggy: yes I have an iBook G4 running 6.0610:50
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Smeggythoreauputic, how's your battery life compared to osx?10:50
GMachine_24rast4: no, but what kind of media, what programs, etc.?10:50
thoreauputicSmeggy: about the same - I  get 5 hours in light use with the screen dimmed a bit, and around 4 hours in heavier use10:51
rast4Gmachine: I logged into my mp3 server, used Totem and it crashed twice10:51
GMachine_24jeeezus it's 5 a.m. and i'm listening to ranchero music..........10:51
rast4I can't get XMMS to open the location of the Server10:51
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ompaul!offtopic10:51
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:51
darksoul!ATI10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
argumenthi, i've been looking on freshmeat and google for a while now but I can't find a good utility to update ID3 tags based on filename. anyone know of one? basically i have the track numbers in my file names but not my id3 tags... :( i tried the "id3 mass changer" tool and id3ren but neither one has produced satisfactory results after consulting the man pages for many hours.10:52
darksoul!ati10:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:52
gnomefreak!ati > darksoul10:52
Smeggythoreauputic, cool :)10:52
thoreauputicSmeggy: but I don't do heavy stuff on the iBook much - except the occasional compiling10:52
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thoreauputicSmeggy: Ubuntu is more responsive than MAc OS-X - and I rarely use Os-X10:53
GMachine_24rast4: but are you really using samba to share these files?10:53
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rast4Gmachine: that's how I have it set up, I open Network Places, click my workgroup, click my computer I want to access, and go from there10:53
rast4so I would say yes10:53
GMachine_24rast4: ok.10:53
GMachine_24rast4: hang on a second....10:54
rast4each respective drive has SMB on it and they are configured via Samba10:54
rast4sure10:54
Deaigo<LMJ_Work> Deaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 77710:54
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Deaigowhere do i loom to find those options?10:54
Deaigolook*10:54
FlannelDeaigo, LMJ_Work, change the umask10:54
argumentwhat's the best way to install KDE ?10:54
argumentis there a metapackage that provides the main system?10:55
MatthewVargument, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:55
DeaigoFlannel i am a total noob10:55
Deaigowhere do i go to change that?10:55
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rast4Gmachine: Hell dude, it just crashed just browsing a server heh, didn't even stream anything10:56
fyyrest0rmcan someone please tell me whats wrong with this line? I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ..... /dev/hdb1   /home/storm/hdb1   ext3   defaults,umask=007,noatime 0 010:56
argumentMatthewV, thx10:56
rast4MatthewV: What's up Grub-fixer ;)10:56
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GMachine_24rast4: yeah, i don't think streaming media is your problem. i just connected to my music server and can play songs using totem fine. xmms doesn't seem to want to work.10:57
rast4yeah something is up10:57
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MatthewVhi rast4 ... not a whole lot is up, but if you want to just chat.. the correct place is #ubuntu-offtopic... ;) sorry.. just that this is a support channel :) or #ubuntu-au.. :)10:57
rast4I JUST got Samba working FINALLY too10:57
rast4Matthewv: gotcha10:57
GMachine_24rast4: i would suggest checking your samba.conf file to make sure everything is configured ok.10:58
rast4yeah let me do another testparm when it comes up again10:58
hush`afkmy linux has been acting screwy so i booted to winxp and went to ubuntu.com and low and behold i see a bright green headline warning me of the issue and how to fix it - yay!10:58
rast4it's forcing me to fcsk after each crash :(10:58
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GMachine_24rast4: you could always buy a new computer. :)10:58
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rast4I have nearly a dozen. I own a computer business ;)10:59
rast4this is laptop #3 with Ubuntu10:59
ompaul!offtopic10:59
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:59
Deaigo/dev/sda1/media/externalvfatiocharset=utf8,umask=0000010:59
rast4HP Pavilion ZD7005QV 17" Widescreen10:59
Deaigodoes that look correct?10:59
GMachine_24rast4: actually, i use 'slimserver' software as my interface between my pcs and my music server.10:59
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rast4I guess talk in offtopic chan10:59
rast4bah10:59
rast4let me msg you10:59
rast4i wanna hear about that10:59
GMachine_24rast4: but slimserver doesn't install well on ubuntu.11:00
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gary4garthere is no oops there11:01
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pabzhelo mai11:02
mneptok'allo users11:02
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gnomefreakgary4gar: no ops where?11:02
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gnomefreak;)11:03
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gary4garnow its ok11:03
mneptokooo! an active +o!11:03
ompaulgary4gar, don't ever say that11:03
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gnomefreakask and you shall recieve11:03
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mneptokgnomefreak: let me fetch a URL for the /topic. sec ...11:03
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gary4gari understand that u can't trust strangers11:04
scaporIs there a fix for fglrx on Edgy ?  There seems to be an ABI mismatch between the driver and the Xserver.11:04
gary4garlike me11:04
ompaul!offtopic11:04
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:04
gnomefreakwe can take the X issue out of topic now its been on the servers for a few days11:04
mneptokcan someone /topic this, please - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ResolutionForBug5715311:04
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ompaulgnomefreak, go for it11:04
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gnomefreakscapor: try in #ubuntu+111:04
ryctor#ubuntu is the most populated channel in freenode, second by #gentoo and #debian11:04
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ryctor812 users11:05
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ryctor##linux in #8 with 37011:05
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mneptokryctor: that's only the channels you can see. the +s channels may have more people.11:05
MatthewVryctor, maybe things like that would be best in #ubuntu-offtopic...11:05
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Blinkermornin' room11:06
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bbrazilgnomefreak: comma after channel?11:06
DesertEagle7Blinker, hello ;-)11:06
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mneptokgnomefreak: could you throw that URL i pasted into the /topic. despite the bug being old, and long fixed, we're still getting support queries about it. i'll try anything to stem the tide. :)11:06
bilss_fyrestrtr: are you still here11:07
Smeggythoreauputic, did you install any laptop specific tools to get that kind of battery life? hd-spin down utils or anthing?11:07
gnomefreakmneptok: the issue is fixed there is no need for it11:07
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Blinkerso yeah, x server decided to stop working for me...11:07
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thoreauputicSmeggy: no11:07
Blinkerthink i could get the rebuild command from someone?11:07
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thoreauputicSmeggy: tha't what I get out of the box11:07
Smeggythoreauputic, excellent, thanks.  sorry to be a pest, haven't encountered any live ibook using ubuntu people to talk to yet and I plan on converting my laptop fully sometime soon :)11:08
mneptokgnomefreak: if you say so, but our RT queue says differently :)11:08
thoreauputicSmeggy: as i said though, that's with pretty light use ( text, a bit of music et)11:08
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gnomefreakmneptok: 10.4 has been in repos for a few days11:08
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TANATHOShi11:08
Blinker!x11:08
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:08
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gnomefreakmneptok: if 10.4 doesnt fix your issue than your issue isnt the same as that one11:09
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ryctorso, we need to rethink everything we like to post and then see in which channel it goes and then join that channel and post the comment and then return?11:09
mneptokgnomefreak: the problem is that people don't update. especially after they have either been burned by an updated or have been spooked about updating after reading about issues.11:10
bilss_ompaul: morning11:10
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ompaulbilss_, it is indeed :)11:10
ryctorThat kind of filtering is objective and relative11:10
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gnomefreakmneptok: the few people that are left with the issue we can tell to upgrade packages if they want it fixed. most people dont read the topic anyway11:10
mneptokgnomefreak: k, whatevah. :)11:11
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TANATHOSneed help in setting up a virtual domain11:12
TANATHOSsomeone ....anyone?11:12
MatthewVryctor, no, I'm just saying that this is a support channel.. I'm not forcing you to go to offtopic, I'm just pointing out that that is not support material, and some ops don't like -offtopic stuff in here ;)11:13
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bilss_ompaul: can you take a look at a patebin please?11:13
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DesertEagle7ryctor, it's not worth arguing about, you'll surely end up being banned for repeated offtopic posts / arguing11:14
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ompaulbilss_, url11:14
KenSentMe!anyone11:14
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KenSentMeHey ubotu's dead?11:14
MatthewV!ubotu11:14
frogzoo!wtf11:14
Blinker!x11:14
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MatthewVKenSentMe, hmm... maybe11:14
Blinkerfancy that11:15
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Madpilot!ping11:15
DesertEagle7ubotu gets ddosed all the time11:15
Blinkercan someone tell me the command to autoconfigure x server? mine crapped out on me saying no device found (it was working just fine before)11:15
Madpilotthis channel functions very badly when the bot isn't here ;)11:15
ompaulDesertEagle7, na we got a new location for it11:16
gnomefreakim willing to bet Seveas is working on them11:16
MatthewVBlinker, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:16
Blinkerthx11:16
DesertEagle7ompaul, really? I haven't been in here since winter, But I remember it getting ddosed constantly11:16
Seveasgnomefreak, I wish that as true11:16
gnomefreak:(11:16
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DesertEagle7yay11:16
MatthewVBlinker, that will run through config options... otherwise X -configure will attempt to autodectect everything and make you an xorg.conf11:16
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ompaulDesertEagle7, yeap it is not the bot in .nz11:16
bilss_ompaul: just a sec11:17
ompaulDesertEagle7, it has new internals11:17
DesertEagle7kewl11:17
KenSentMe!ping11:17
Seveasgnomefreak, colo provider is acting weird since yesterday11:18
DesertEagle7you guys need to get him on an oc-256 :-P11:18
gnomefreakyeah i saw that yesterday11:18
ubotuping: unknown host11:18
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gnomefreaki thought i crashed him yesterday :(11:18
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mrjoeciao a tutti11:19
|DuReX|hi guys, is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?11:19
ompaulblind, sorted passed it on11:19
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Blinkerbah. that didn't fix it...11:20
TheFuzzballhello, I need to play an AVI file, but kaffeine and all of my other players won't work, how do I play avi files?11:20
shaantan1try VLC11:20
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TheFuzzballI have11:20
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Blinker!easyubuntu11:20
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.11:20
shaantan1ur file might be corrupted11:20
mneptokTheFuzzball: try getting the DivX codec for Totem11:20
DesertEagle7TheFuzzball, tried xine?11:21
Blinkerthat should fix it, assuming you havent successfullyplayed avi's previously11:21
TheFuzzballyup11:21
TheFuzzballI haven't11:21
TheFuzzballand this one I am trying to play isn't corrupt, cause' I pulled another AVI off another comp that works fine in Windows but that didn't play11:21
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Blinkerok, anyone know why X would come up with an error saying no device found?11:22
ompaulbilss_,  sorted passed it on11:22
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shaantan1where do I get gnome VFS plugin11:22
QuentusrexDoes anyone know of a good site that describes how to setup a reverse proxy with apache on Ubuntu?11:22
MatthewVBlinker, something is wrong in the configuration so that it cannot find a video card to output to11:22
ISOLATEDViRuS!m4a11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
ISOLATEDViRuS...11:22
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QuentusrexI can find many for RHL, but Ubuntu has been configured differently.11:22
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ISOLATEDViRuS!.m4a11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
ISOLATEDViRuSoh i hate you.11:23
BlinkerMatthewV: it was working fine before, and the reconfig didnt help any11:23
laurens_sTheFuzzball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?11:23
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MatthewVBlinker, what broke it?11:23
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mneptokISOLATEDViRuS: you want AAC support11:23
ISOLATEDViRuSaac = .m4a?11:23
MatthewVISOLATEDViRuS, maybe try what ubotu said, and search the site... or search the wiki11:23
Blinkerspontaneous. nothing changed bymyhandsincethe last successful boots11:23
Blinkerapologies for the dysfunctional spacebar11:23
MatthewVBlinker, nothing at all? no upgrades?11:24
KenSentMeBlinker: have you updated your system?11:24
ISOLATEDViRuSwho wants to explain how to get my .m4a files to work =D?11:24
Blinkeractually now i think of it i did get an update a few days ago11:24
shaantanuwhere do I get gnome VFS plugin11:24
KenSentMeBlinker: update again11:24
ISOLATEDViRuSi already downloaded and installed the packages from the repositories for the restricted formats, and im using amaroK11:24
KenSentMe!xorgbug11:24
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')11:24
laurens_sTheFuzzball: if you open the file in question in vlc, and do "View", "Stream and message info", if it says 'wmv3' then you might want to install mplayer11:24
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shaantanuhi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin11:24
gnomefreakcorrect me if im wrong but if you "cat" a file that means its there correct?11:24
shaantanu!VFS11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about VFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
|DuReX| is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?11:25
MatthewVgnomefreak, i should think so.. :)11:25
gnomefreakMatthewV: me to:(11:25
laurens_sgnomefreak: if you get output, yeah :)11:25
ISOLATEDViRuSi believe cat is used to view a file11:25
shaantanuya11:25
gnomefreaksorry yeah meant to add the output word in there11:26
gnomefreakISOLATEDViRuS: it is11:26
shaantanu!vfs11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
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e-typehi all11:26
ISOLATEDViRuSgnomefreak: what packages do i need and from which repository to get .m4a to play?11:26
MatthewVshaantanu, gnome-vfs is installed by default, i believe, what exactly are you trying to do?11:26
manopuluswhat partition system is best for system ( / ) and for /home, need to provide a way to restore files and dirs on crash11:26
gnomefreakISOLATEDViRuS: not sure but i would try multiverse repo11:27
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, I already have mplayer11:27
shaantanumatthew : I m trying to config synce11:27
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ISOLATEDViRuSok, thats what i thought, because i used the guide in the wiki i believe it was, and installed all th packages it said to in order to have restricted files play11:27
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laurens_sTheFuzzball: is the file indeed a wmv3 file (see my vlc-remark?)11:28
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ISOLATEDViRuSsome 7 or 8 files11:28
e-typeI've been looking around for a while now, but don't find the reason: shutdown buttons have vanished from shutdown menu and gdm as well.11:28
tarbombMatthewV: R u sure its there by default11:28
e-typeanyone know where to fix this?11:28
patientfoxdoes anyone know why when i try to load mp3s in rhythmbox i get a message telling me they arent audio streams?11:28
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, it's an AVI file11:28
patientfoxis it because it ships w/o mp3 support?11:29
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, now wmv11:29
ISOLATEDViRuSpatientfox: you have to download the support from the multiverse repository11:29
Madpilotpatientfox, have you installed mp3 support?11:29
tarbombpatientfox : try xmms player11:29
MatthewVtarbomb, well... if not you could install libgnome-vfs or the appropriate package11:29
ISOLATEDViRuSxmms sucks, get amarok.11:29
laurens_sTheFuzzball: i ment, what does it say if you open the file in vlc, click view and then 'stream and media info' ?11:29
MatthewVor gnome-vfs11:29
tarbombhmm11:30
patientfoxi have the multiverse repository11:30
DesertEagle7ISOLATEDViRuS, amarok is very good, but also hard on slower pc's so xmms is a good alternative some times..11:30
patientfoxhow i do install mp3 support from it?11:30
MatthewVpatientfox, its becaues there is no mp3 support, see !restricted11:30
laurens_sTheFuzzball: have you also installed the w32codecs?11:30
patientfoxamarok is great, but kde sucks11:30
MatthewV!restricted11:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:30
tarbombhi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin: do u have any idea abt synce ??11:30
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, yea11:30
ISOLATEDViRuSpatientfox, do you want a walktrough? i did this like, a few hours ago11:31
patientfoxplease11:31
patientfoxi already got the nonfree flash plugin11:31
ISOLATEDViRuSmake a channel and message me the name of it11:31
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patientfoxarghhh damnit11:31
laurens_sTheFuzzball: then I'm out of ideas, sorry :(11:31
patientfoxi cant i gotta run... thanks for the offer though11:31
Madpilotpatientfox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats11:31
MatthewVtarbomb, if you install a package from the repos it should pull all deps with it11:31
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, it's ok11:31
ISOLATEDViRuSk11:31
tarbombmatthew : hmm11:32
ISOLATEDViRuSgood luck with it11:32
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tarbomblemme try11:32
halerhello everyone11:32
laurens_sTheFuzzball: good luck11:32
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Deaigowhat do you set the umask to for say 766?11:32
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Gumbycan anyone tell me which file I would need to edit in order to have something start automagically when a user is logged in?  I know how to do it  within the gui, but I want to be able to edit a file manually this time.11:34
tarbombMatthewV: cant find packages gnome-vfs or libgnome-vfs11:35
DesertEagle7Deaigo, I don't think you touch the umask for a permission setting?11:35
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laurens_starbomb: have you tried sudo apt-get install libgnome-vfs-dev?11:36
tarbombnope11:36
lophyteGumby: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf11:36
tarbomblemme try11:36
Deaigoi mean settigns for umask so it makes all files chmod 76611:36
Gumbylophyte: sorry, I meant a users session11:36
lophyteGumby: erm, sorry.. I misunderstood11:36
tarbomblauren : worked , thanx11:36
lophyteGumby: I thought you meant auto-login :P11:37
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mneptokDeaigo: you want to chmod all files to 766?11:37
tarbombDeaigo:its risky11:37
Deaigono11:37
Deaigoi want the umask settign to do that11:37
Deaigotrying to mount a fat32 hdd11:37
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Deaigothe autmount isnt giving me what i want11:38
mneptokmounts inherit the perms of their mount points11:38
tarbombmount - a should help11:38
laurens_starbomb: no problem, cool :) BTW: I found it by searching for packages using firefox searchbox, and picking 'ubuntu package search' - it revealed a -dev for libgnome-vfs11:38
tarbombhmm11:38
halerwhat you guys think? i'm running ubuntu on a pentium II 266mhz with a 352mb ram. response is a bit slow. will adding memory help or is it the processor?11:38
tarbomblauren:cool11:38
laurens_starbomb: a lot of packages have a -dev , if you're compiling something which requires the library11:38
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tarbomblauren : k, thanx for the info11:38
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laurens_starbomb: welcome again :)11:39
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dggoldstHello all11:39
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mneptokhaler: i'd try Xubuntu11:39
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onispawnanyone know if the xserver-xorg-core 10.4 safe to install?11:40
mneptokonispawn: it is11:40
YveDeLarchi11:40
onispawncool. thanks11:40
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Deaigonevermind i got it working11:40
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halerok mneptok11:40
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YveDeLarcThere are two sound interfaces in my system, onboard and SB Live. How can I force the sblive to be the default for output?11:41
mneptokhaler: Xubuntu is designed for older hardware. XFCE is more lightweight than is GNOME.11:41
mneptokYveDeLarc: disable the on-board in the BIOS?11:42
tarbombwhenever I try uninstalling games from my ubuntu ... it tells me I have to remove the desktop package as well.... what does this mean ? shud i continue ?11:42
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laurens_sYveDeLarc: System, preferences, sound11:42
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YveDeLarcmneptok, laurens_s: Thank you, will check.11:42
mneptoktarbomb: the games we include are part of the overall desktop package. it is NOT safe to uninstall the desktop metapackage (unless you want CLI only)11:42
tarbombk11:43
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lophyteGumby: I'm not quite sure... I can't find it myself11:44
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valehruHey guys, can anyone help me get skype up and running alongside with xmms or beep media player?11:44
erUSUL!skype11:44
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto11:44
bilss_ompaul: http://pastebin.ca/14735011:45
mneptok!list pants11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about list pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:45
mneptokno pants.11:45
Quentusrexdoes anyone have experience with an apache reverse proxy?11:45
dggoldstanybody handy with the command line?11:45
lophyteGumby: I'm not sure how the GUI does it.. but I know you can add commands to ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile which will be executed on login11:46
dggoldstcommand line text filtering?11:46
realistQuentusrex: what do you need to know?11:46
mneptokdggoldst: grep11:46
mneptok(or awk, or sed ...)11:46
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dggoldstok, how do you return the nth column from a tab-delimited file11:46
QuentusrexI need to know how to setup apache to work as a reverse proxy so that users can access my two webservers as if they are the same server.11:46
realistdggoldst: man cut11:47
dggoldstyes!11:47
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Quentusrexbut I can't find much info on how to do this on ubuntu11:47
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realistQuentusrex: install mod_proxy, and set up virtual hosts on your apache proxy11:47
thoreauputicompaul: ping ?11:47
Quentusrexdo you have a site with a tutorial?11:47
realistQuentusrex: no sorry, google?11:48
laurens_sYveDeLarc: any luck yet? Is it working?11:48
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Quentusrextried.11:48
Quentusrexnot much luck11:48
thoreauputic!seen ompaul11:48
Quentusrexthink I might have found something just now11:48
ubotuompaul is on IRC right now!11:48
realistQuentusrex: doesn't need to be ubuntu specific11:48
Quentusrexbut haven't for the past 20 minutes11:49
thoreauputicyeah I thought so :)11:49
QuentusrexI've found a debian one.11:49
realistQuentusrex: that'll do :-)11:49
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realistJust make sure you're running the right version of apache you need11:49
shaantanuany body knows how to access your Pocket PC device through Nautilus using the protocol synce:/// or otherwise ??11:50
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jujimufuin apt's cache, there is a quake II. Is this the real game, or just a demo?11:51
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onispawnjujimufu: its just a demo. you need the pak files from the cd for the full game11:51
halerhow do i know that my video card is working properly? it's an ancient trident 3dimage 9750 agp.11:52
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Lynourehaler: Usually you know if it does not11:52
naoszmhuhahah! I love ubuntu :D just plugged my mobile phone in to the usb and i can browse the phone and mem card... no new drivers or new software to install! eat that M$11:53
shaantanunaosz : cool11:53
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dpuppim in the process of partitioning, i have two partitions and some free spaces unclaimed... what do i select to make linux create a partition on that free space and use it for its self without touching the other two partitions?11:53
halerLynoure: i won't see a thing?11:53
naoszI no longer have any M$ software on my PC!11:53
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laurens_sshaantazu: do you have a windows mobile 2005 device?11:54
shaantanu200311:54
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onispawnanyone use vmware server?11:54
daniele_981hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C11:54
Lynourehaler: or the resolution is bad or it flickers or...11:54
dpuppis it a problem to have two primary and two logical? im confused. i dont want to cause a conflict11:54
shaantanulauren: Windows mobile 200311:54
laurens_sshaantazu: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/multisync_guide.php ?11:55
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dpuppide master hda has #1 primary ntfs, #5 logical fat32, #6 fswap, and #3 primary.... does this sound right?11:56
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HanzZhow long will be package in edgy?11:56
shaantanulauren : naah ... I dont want to synchronize , I just want to browse my pocket PC thru nautilius11:56
dpuppi want to make sure ubuntu is the first choice at boot.11:56
daniele_981hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C11:56
laurens_sshaantanu: can't help there - perhaps http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin can11:57
YveDeLarcThe solution for my sound card ordering problem was to add 'options snd-emu10k1 index=0' and 'options snd-intel8x0 index=1' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. That way, I still can use the onboard interface but gave the SB live as default.11:57
dpuppbah... im feeling advetureous... clicks random options and hits next ^_^ weee!11:57
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DeepHello friends11:58
shaantanulauren : i have been on this page but cant decipher svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce just have alook on the page11:58
laurens_sYveDeLarc: ok, good that it's fixed.11:58
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laurens_sshaantanu: do you have svn installed? svn --version?11:59
shaantanudont think so ...11:59
shaantanuwhat package is this11:59
laurens_sshaantanu: sudo apt-get install subversion11:59
YveDeLarclaurens_s: Well, my solution is not as end-user-friendly, so your suggestion also has its merits. :)11:59
YveDeLarclaurens_s: Thanks again for helping.11:59
laurens_sYveDeLarc: ;p11:59
daniele_981llo smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C i need it but i don't say12:00
shaantanulauren : what is subversion used for ??12:00
halerthe only hiccup i encountered when i installed ubuntu was that it won't recognize the sound chip in the mobo. no sounds. what i did was buy a pci sound card. install. voila! music. cmi8738=$712:00
laurens_sshaantanu: here, it's used to get the latest version of synce from the developers12:00
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laurens_sshaantanu: but didn't you just compile it already?12:01
e-typels12:01
e-typehm... whoops12:01
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_w^x_man I'm just having a crap day with tech stuff12:04
_w^x_Cinelerra CV has either bugs or my PC does'nt have enough crunching power12:05
dggoldstw^x, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you12:05
_w^x_Cinelerra keeps freezing up.12:05
_w^x_And I really want/need this app12:05
_w^x_but oh well12:05
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shaantan1?nick tarbomb\12:08
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Goudinihello12:08
TLEdoes clamav check e-mail in thunderbird? And if not is there a way to make it so?12:09
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selinuxiumhi all, I have made a move from programming to sysadmin and I was looking for some advice on networking tools. What are the good ones? Can I get a Novell VPN client? Is it possible to view a windows RDP seesion in Ubuntu?12:09
laurens_starbomb: did you compile the plugin yet?12:10
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selinuxiumTLE: on linux? viri' are not prevelent on Linux.12:10
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laurens_sselinuxium: as for network & tools, don't know, but a RDP session is as easy as going to 'Applications, Internet' and clicking12:10
laurens_sselinuxium: terminal server client12:11
ISOLATEDViRuSis it app-get? or get-app? i forget the sommand -_-12:11
ISOLATEDViRuScommand*12:11
laurens_sapt-get12:11
Healotapt-get12:11
ISOLATEDViRuSapt12:11
Healot!apt-get12:11
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:11
ISOLATEDViRuSfreaking t12:11
ISOLATEDViRuSkthx guys12:11
selinuxiumlaurens_s: cheer.,12:12
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selinuxiumlaurens_s: cheers even! :)12:12
thoreauputicISOLATEDViRuS: Advanced Package Tool = apt12:12
kapherophfyrstrtr: seya and thanks again for the help :)12:12
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TLEselinuxium: I know, the only reason why I want e-mail scanning is so that I don't pass anything on to friends12:14
kapheroph......fyrestrtr....sorry12:14
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laurens_sselinuxium: ;p12:14
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selinuxiumTLE: Ok :)12:15
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Goudini  12:16
Goudinihttp://nextworld.ru/?rid=38952212:16
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|DuReX| is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?12:18
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tarbomblauren : what does the second step in http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin mean ...12:21
tarbombwhich filedirectory , they r talkin abt12:21
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laurens_starbomb: you mean 'compile and install'?12:22
tarbombya12:22
laurens_starbomb: i'll have a quick look12:22
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tarbombk12:22
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klm-what's the best wifi sniffer for gnome?12:23
laurens_starbomb: try doing  a 'cd trunk/gnomevfs'12:23
tarbombk12:23
laurens_sklm: wifiradar?12:23
laurens_starbomb: works?12:23
tarbombwait12:23
laurens_sk12:23
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black_pignoufBonjour  tous!12:24
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tarbomblauren : doesnt work12:26
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laurens_starbomb: try doing  a 'cd synce/trunk/gnomevfs'12:26
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laurens_starbomb: I assume you did do the svn part?12:26
tarbombya its underway12:27
laurens_sthen you have to wait a bit more12:27
tarbombk12:27
bilss_whats the command line to give root prilages to user admin?12:27
tarbombsudo12:27
bilss_ok12:28
bilss_thanks12:28
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tarbomb!sudo > bilss_12:28
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laurens_starbomb: or you could do 'svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs'12:28
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tarbombhmm .. lemme see .. actually i ran out of space on my /12:29
tarbombI m tryin to clean up now12:29
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selinuxium!radeon > selinuxium12:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:34
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HNTHello everybody,12:35
HNTi'v got a big problem : alsa is'nt running, so i don't have sound anymore12:35
HNT'iv got alsa-tools and during the boot the message "Alsa starting up" ok , come.12:35
HNTWhen i type ps -fe | grep alsa, i don't get anything and rcconf don't allow me to start him (alsa isn't in the list) so, any solution ?12:35
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Moofis there a way to set up a bunch of ssh tunnels in an init script that will auto-reconnect when they drop?12:35
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lassegshi please help. My disk looks like this hda1=winxp(ntfs) hda2=ubuntu(ext3) hda3=swap. I reinstalled windows, now im not able to boot to linux. i need help with restoring grub!12:36
fyrestrtr!grub12:36
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:36
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gotamaHi there!12:36
HNTno idea for the alsa problem ?12:36
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gotamaI've just installed ubuntu server via netboot12:37
gotamaI have the next message from grub12:37
e-typeHNT: does alsamixer show your channels?12:38
gotamaGRUB loading, please wait ... error 1812:38
gotamaWhat does it mean? How to fix it?12:38
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gotamaI installed and reinstalled and the problem reamins.12:39
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HNTe-type : yes he does12:39
noctigotama, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html12:39
e-typeHNT: are your channels unmuted and up?12:39
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laurens_sgotama: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1812:39
userstat-ubuntutest112:40
lassegsthe howto on how to restore grub from installer must be outdated? i cant figure out to do that i dapper...12:40
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gotamaThanks a lot. I'll take a look at the URLs.12:41
HNTe-type : yes they are12:41
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e-typeHNT: what's the error if you run an audio application from terminal?12:42
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lassegsIn the grub tool when i type 'root (hd0,2), which is my ext3 partition with both / and /boot, it just says grub> root (hd0,2) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8212:43
lassegsanyone knows what my problem is?12:43
laurens_slassegs: no guarantees, and just a stab in the dark, but can't you use the live-cd, select 'boot installed system', and then do sudo grub?12:43
e-typeHNT: easiest with mplayer or a player that let's you specify the audio driver12:43
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HNTe-type : (rhythmbox:5403): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to start mDNS browsing12:44
HNTthe only one warning12:44
laurens_sHNT: that's normal12:45
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laurens_sHNT: or: does so with me, too :)12:45
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HNTthis morning alsa runed fine, now i'v installed xgl, don't know if it influence alsa ?12:45
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e-typeHNT: shouldn't, and that's not an alsa error12:45
noctiHNT, uninstall xgl?12:45
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HNTno, not uninstall xgl but try to start with xorg, that's not logic12:46
e-typeHNT: what if you run esd or restart in terminal?12:46
timpyHello, I installed ubuntu-server, but when I log in EVERYTHING is in capital letters , and when I type it accepts my commands, but the result isn't always visible12:46
timpywhat could be causing this?12:46
e-typeHNT: erm, run/restart esd I mean12:46
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xerophyteCpu(s): 0.3% us, 1.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 42.3% id, 3.0% wa, 53.3% hi, 0.0% si  I know id = idle, and us=user, sy=system, but what does wa, hi, si eash mean?12:48
longwavewa=wait (for disk access), hi=hardware interrupt, si=software interrupt i believe12:49
timpyI rebooted, it's fixed now12:49
yeagerni=nice?12:49
HNThow can i start esd ?12:49
e-typeHNT: by the way, alsa is in kernel space, so it will never show up in $(ps) stuff12:49
e-typeHNT: '$ esd' ;)12:49
e-typeHNT: the fact that your alsamixer shows your channels prooves that your alsa is okay12:49
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HNTesd is already running12:51
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xerophytelongwave, where can i check them just wondering man top does not give me12:51
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tuxtuxciao12:53
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HNTso i go in my menu > system > preference > multimedia system selector and i try to use esd for the default output but it don't work12:54
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acersaleshi i am typing a 'clear' command on the console and gettting the error 'terminal is not a console'12:55
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laurens_sacersales: now that's odd :)12:58
HNThow can i delete all the configuration files of alsa (for my account and for the computer :: /etc) ?12:58
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HNTto start with a correct configuration, maybe, i do a bad manipulation12:58
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noctiHNT, rm -frv /12:59
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laurens_sHNT: don't do the rm thing!01:00
Nameeaterbad nocti01:00
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noctijust kidding :)01:01
HNTthis is stupid no ?, it will delete all my system01:01
laurens_sHNT: indeed01:01
Ngnocti: that's not funny and it is extremely stupid01:01
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HNTin french : andouille01:01
Ngnocti: it's the kind of thing that will earn you a kick/ban01:01
noctiheh, forgive me guys, i didnt add sudo :)01:01
FrostbiteDoes Ubuntu Server use debian unstable as an upstream?01:01
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tarbomblauren : do u suggest svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs' instead of svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce ??01:03
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laurens_starbomb: well, yes, that would just give you the plugin for gnome, instead of everything they are working on.01:03
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tarbombk01:03
tarbombthanx01:03
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acersalesany idea guyz ?01:04
grendel_afternoon folks01:04
grendel_anyone here using edgy and openldap?01:05
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zenwhenwhats now01:07
grendel_zenwhen: are you asking me or somebody else?01:08
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zenwhenput text into wrong channel01:09
grendel_ah, k01:09
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opexochi01:10
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opexoci am new there :)01:10
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usam1hi all01:11
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opexochi usam101:12
manmadhaany one know how to do graphics programs using  c01:13
manmadha?01:13
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usam1i wanna ask a question. what will happen if someone replace his source.list with the source.list of debian and then perform a system upgrade (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)?01:13
Moofis there a way to keep an ssh tunnel auto-reconnecting?01:13
laurens_smanmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)01:13
salahhwo do I kill processes with "zombie" status?01:13
m1ckeyknoxis there a way to run the "software updates" utility... but from command line (ie ssh)?01:13
salah*how01:13
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mcphailusam1: that someone would break their system01:14
Meganthello01:14
salahm1ckeyknox, yes, apt-get update01:14
selinuxiumAny idea on how I can VPN connect to a Novell Border manager server/01:14
selinuxium?01:14
mcphailmanmadha: use the GTK libraries01:14
usam1mcphail: hmm,01:14
m1ckeyknoxsalah: thank you. and that will update anything installled through apt-get, correct?01:14
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Megant"(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found01:14
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MegantWhat can you tell?01:15
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MegantSo X doesn't start01:15
salahm1ckeyknox, no, that updates the source list. use apt-get update first, then apt-get upgrade to upgrade to update softwares01:15
usam1mcphail: and is it possible to use the debian repos (some or all) with the repos of ubuntu (in source.list)?01:15
m1ckeyknoxso: 1) apt-get update 2) apt-get upgrade01:15
manmadhamcphail, can u guide me.....(i compile the programs in borland c++.......using the functions putpixel(),initgraph().......how to do this in linux........??)01:15
mcphailusam1: only if you want a very unstable system which could break at any update01:16
m1ckeyknoxwhen it's done, how do I issue a restart command?01:16
m1ckeyknox(or know if one is necessary?)01:16
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usam1mcphail: thanks for the guidence01:16
salahm1ckeyknox, it's not necessary if the kernel isn't updated01:16
mcphailmanmadha: there are documents on GTK and GDK in the repos01:16
opexochow can i restart X not to restart computer ?01:17
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Megantpress ctrl+alt+backspace01:17
manmadhamcphail, thank u01:17
salahopexoc, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload or just CTRL + ALT + Backspace01:17
mcphailmanmadha: the imagemagick libraries also have an api for drawing01:17
opexocMegant,salah: thx, i will try01:17
m1ckeyknoxthanks salah01:18
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m1ckeyknoxhave a great day.01:18
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salahyou too01:18
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rc55Odd question, but can you do xgl accelleration on intel based graphics chipsets?01:18
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manmadhalaurens_s, u r link is for c++ only.01:18
salahrc55, which chipset?01:18
MegantX config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2153401:18
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MegantAIGLX should work at least I think01:19
rc55salah: 865 iirc01:19
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laurens_smanmadha: yeah, that's what I mentioned: manmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)01:19
salahrc55, unless you have installed the drivers, no, I don't think so01:19
mcphailmanmadha: if you are brave, you can use the X API directly. I wouldn't recommend this01:19
MegantCan you help me?01:19
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laurens_smanmadha: http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/ - that's c01:20
manmadhathank u01:20
salahmanmadha, or for python: http://pygtk.org/tutorial01:20
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salahhttp://pygtk.org sorry01:20
mcphailmanmadha: you may also wish to trawl through some of the GIMP source code01:21
Megant(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:05:001:21
Megant(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found01:21
Megant(EE) No devices detected.01:21
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MegantBut my         BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"01:21
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DBOMegant, I would comment your BusID line out, its usually not needed unless you are trying to do dual head and such01:22
laurens_smegant: do a sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change the 0:5:0 to 3:0:001:22
laurens_smegant:  remember to backup though.01:22
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Megantlaurens_s: well, i have there 3:0:001:23
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rbmanI've posted a pretty detailed question on a dual boot issue I'm facing with grub (with file dumps) at http://www.phpriot.com/3687   any help GREATLY appreciated!  And yes, I've read manuals/faqs/and how-tos...01:23
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mangae01:23
selinuxium Hi all, I am going crazy here! I am trying to find a way to negotiate a VPN on a Novell Bordermanager server with Ubuntu. Has anyone had this experience? Any Ideas?01:23
MegantDBO: I don't think that X find my01:23
Megantargh, lag01:23
dalilais it posssible to search  'search' the ubuntu mailing list by subject?01:23
Gonzoi have an executable that is looking for a .so that is in ../lib but cannot find it...01:23
MegantI'll test01:23
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laurens_smegant:  then, I don't know ...01:24
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laurens_sgonzo: which one?01:24
Gonzoits part of a program that i installed in /usr/program01:24
erUSULMegant: do you have the fixed xerver-xorg-core installed, don't you?01:24
Gonzoim running /usr/program/bin/myProgram01:24
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Gonzoand it can't find a dependant .so in /usr/program/lib01:25
laurens_sgonzo: ah. I see01:25
Bactahey i can't get any sound on Ubuntu01:25
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laurens_sgonzo: just a sec01:25
Gonzook01:25
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Bactai've heard its a big problem with Ubuntu...where do I start fixing this??01:26
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erUSUL!sound01:26
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:26
Bactai don't have a multimedia system selector on my preferences menu01:27
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AnAmiChey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way? ^^01:27
Gonzobacta im not sure but modprobe <soundmoduke> use to work back in teh days when the sound didn't work01:27
sixtsixfpsis this X update thats nagging me the broken package or is it a fix for the broken package01:27
Bactais modprobe a program?01:27
Gonzoyep01:27
laurens_sgonzo: you could try adding a script, like here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2153501:27
Bactahow do i run it?01:27
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laurens_sgonzo: can you adapt that for your own program?01:28
Gonzoso all i need is get my LD_LIBRARY to point on the lib folder?01:28
Gonzou guess so01:28
Gonzo(i'll just add it to my .bashrc)01:28
laurens_sdont do that01:28
Gonzowhy not?01:28
laurens_sgonzo: it might break like a lot of other programs01:28
erUSULBacta: run gstreamer-properties01:29
BactaGonzo: How do I run that program?01:29
Gonzowhy would it?01:29
Gonzoi dont think the lib names will conflict01:29
Bactaso i type gstreamer-properties on bash?01:29
laurens_sgonzo: since it replaces your current LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of adding it  :)01:29
Gonzobacta i would have though just "modprobe" but im not sure01:29
Gonzolaurens_s:  i meant concatenating the path to the variable01:29
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laurens_sgonzo: that should be no prob :) But no guarantees01:29
Gonzowill try anyway01:30
Gonzothanks for your help :)01:30
Bactait just gives me a list of parameters01:30
laurens_sgonzo: np :)01:30
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GonzoBacta:  you need to add your kernel sound module as parametre01:30
opexocI have some image *.nrg how can i display it ?01:30
Gonzoas i said "modprobe <sound module>01:30
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BactaGonzo: whats that?01:30
dalilai am kind of dissapointed  that searching the mailing list, google, and here in 3 days i can't find a way to configure or get working a ps/2 mouse01:30
Gonzoits your sound card driver i assume01:30
laurens_sgonzo: alternatively, you could just make a little script for your program, editing line 2 & three01:30
Bactaim totally lost here01:31
Gonzolaurens_s: i might have to link with some of this libs in the future anyway01:31
GonzoBacta: to get your sound card working... you need a sound driver01:31
Gonzofollowing me so far?01:31
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Bactawhere do i get the sound driver?01:31
laurens_sgonzo: ok, then the .bashrc idea isn't such a bad idea01:31
Gonzoits either built in.. or o the website of your manufacturer01:32
Gonzoit is not impossible that your sound card is not supported01:32
laurens_sdalila: It should 'just work'01:32
Gonzoi would find out what it is and then google ubuntu sound problem <sound card name>01:32
Bactamy soundcard is an Intel built in one01:32
laurens_sdalila: does it work on the live cd?01:32
rbmandalila http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)01:32
Gonzoyou might just find some interesting read01:32
dalilalaurens_s: well i have tired 2 mice ,one brandnew and no luck01:32
Bactaand how the hell could it not be supported???01:32
Bactalol01:32
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dalilano it does not work for the live cd either01:32
Gonzoi dont know...01:32
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Gonzoboth my sound cards worked without problem...01:33
Bactai thought Linux did everything01:33
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Gonzoexcept for the fact that the active one switch every time i reboot01:33
Gonzovery annoying to unplug and replug the cabale01:33
Bactahow do i find out what my soundcard is?01:33
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erUSULBacta: lspci01:33
GonzoBacta: it does... as logn that you have what you need to do it01:33
Gonzoif you dont ... then it wont01:33
Gonzoits not linux01:33
Gonzoits computers in general01:33
Urdenanyone know where the kernel sources are installed by default on dapper?01:33
rbmandalila check the suggestions here --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)01:34
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SeveasUrden, they aren't installed by default01:34
erUSULUrden: /usr/src/01:34
Gonzobrb trying to get that program working01:34
rbmanBacta what kind of machine do you have?01:34
dalilarbman: well x is working for me is just the mouse >> currently reading your suggestion01:34
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UrdenSeveas, how can i install them for the 2.6.x series?  i only see a 2.4.x package in synaptic01:35
Bactathis is what i get 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High De finition Audio Controller (rev 04)01:35
SeveasUrden, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1501:35
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Bactaand rbman I have a Acer Travelmate 4072WLMi and its a laptop01:35
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UrdenSeveas, package not found01:36
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SeveasUrden, which version of Ubuntu do you use?01:36
Urdendapper01:37
Bactathis is frustrating the hell out of me01:37
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opexocI have opened some .nrg file in mplayer i can see video but i can't hear any voice. this is image of some dvd file. what might be a problem ?01:37
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kaotBacta: that the only audio controller listed?  My buddy's got a laptop with apparently a pretty similar mobo, he's got an AC'97 compatible card tho01:37
SeveasUrden, then your sources.list is incomplete01:38
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dalilarbman: i dont see how that could help01:38
Bactakaot: do you want me to paste my lspci somewhere?01:38
AnAmiChey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way?01:38
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UrdenSeveas, i compiled the official 2.6.17 kernel last night from kernel.org, but it dosent have some of the drivers i need for my wifi card, so i was hoping i could just recompile the stock 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel sources01:38
admoopexoc: install the nrg2iso program, then convert your file01:38
erUSULopexoc: afaik opexoc *.nrg is a Nero cd/dvd image convert it to iso and burn/mount it01:38
opexocadmo: thx, i will try01:39
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UrdenSeveas, you mean i need to enable some additional repos?01:39
erUSUL!info linux-source-2.6.1501:39
ubotulinux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 43476 kB, installed size 43612 kB01:39
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SeveasUrden, in that case: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.15 && apt-get -b source linux-source-2.6.1501:39
Urdenok01:39
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opexocerUSUL: how can i mount it ? mount file.iso and that's it ?01:40
Bactaok guys heres my lspci http://pastebin.com/77472701:40
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Bactaim totally lost in this...i'm a cosc student but that dosn't make me a Unix hacker my any stretch of the imagination...so u can imagine how i feel lol01:40
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erUSULopexoc: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mount/point -o loop=/dev/loop/0 iirc01:41
Chousuke-o loop is enough01:41
magical_trevskydoes anyone know if it is possible to sync amarok with a windows mobile pda? I already have the pda 'mounted' (I can browse it's files from it's desktop icon)01:42
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dalilahttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/412   this is all i find01:42
opexocerUSUL: ok, i will try. thx01:42
joyromhello01:42
joyromhow are you people01:42
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joyromI'm looking for a method for write ascii char01:42
joyromthat aren't on the keyboard01:43
joyromin Winzozz this char are available with alt+numpad01:43
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joyromanyone can me help01:43
laurens_sjoyrom: applications, accessories, character map01:43
shaantanuhey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)01:43
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joyrombut I want to write with the keyboard01:43
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joyromwith a combination of key01:44
laurens_sjoyrom: don't know01:44
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joyromthank you laurens_s anyway01:44
erUSULBacta: your card is an integrated codec by intel that should use snd-hda-intel as driver afaics01:44
nach0sHi all, id like to know how printer works in ubuntu! when i plug the printer, dbus and udev recognize the device and make it usefull, To print i use cups and the correct drive! is it??01:44
joyromI'm waiting for anyother suggest01:44
rambo3joyrom:01:44
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erUSULnach0s: yes01:44
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laurens_snach0s: basically, yeah01:45
BactaerUSUL: so what does this mean?01:45
rambo3!info python2.4-minimal01:45
ubotupython2.4-minimal: A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.4). In component main, is required. Version 2.4.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 685 kB, installed size 2084 kB01:45
shaantanu hey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)01:45
laurens_sbacta: try modprobe snd-hda-intel01:45
erUSULBacta: run 'lsmod | grep hda-intel'  gives any output ?01:45
nach0serUSUL,  laurens_s, another question... the saned package is needed just by ltsp?01:45
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erUSULshaantanu: you can move your home dir to another partition01:45
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joyromrambo3: tell me01:46
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shaantanuthat must be ext3 ... right ??01:46
laurens_snach0s: no clue, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com01:46
Tidus;01:46
joyromrambo3: Have you any solution for my problem?01:46
erUSULshaantanu: yes, why not?01:46
Bactalauren_s: done it...what next?01:46
shaantanuerUSUL: that wont mess up my existing install ??01:46
rambo3joyrom: no i just joind what was your question01:46
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BactaerUSUL: dosn't give me any output01:46
laurens_sbacta: what's the output?01:47
homerh_linuxhowdy ppl is there any way of speeding up printing over my smb network01:47
erUSULshaantanu: no you have to copy de data to the new partition and then add an entry in fstab for that partition01:47
Bactalauren_s: no output01:47
erUSULBacta: try 'sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel'01:47
rambo3there is a good howto on IBM about moving/ home01:47
laurens_sbacta: lsmod|grep hda-intel shoud should then show up with something01:47
shaantanuerUSUL: I m quite a n00b to understand that01:48
joyromrambo3 I want to write ascii char that aren't on the keyboard like tilde01:48
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nach0sIts possible to upgrade to edgy??? or not yet?01:48
laurens_snach0s: not yet01:48
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lupine_85it is possible, but not recommended01:48
nach0slaurens_s, thanks01:48
nach0soks..01:48
laurens_snach0s: it is possible, but not reccommended unless you're a developer01:48
shaantanuerUSUL01:48
lupine_85(was speaking to a developer yesterday about it; he said give it a couple of weeks)01:48
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lupine_85anyone know how to generate the Module.symvers file in linux-headers-2.6.15-26 ?01:48
rambo3joyrom: there is char* program for that , type char and press tab to complite. i dont have GUI i am in text mode so i cant swith to check it01:49
UrdenSeveas, thanks01:49
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Bactalauren_s: shows up nothing...even when i put a sudo before it01:49
shaantanu!fstab01:49
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions01:49
joyromin text mode what's the solution01:49
pequatrehi. Does anyone else has this pb with k3b: when you start it nothing happens but at the next reboot it opens ? is there a fix ?01:50
erUSULshaantanu: well i do not know how to explain it better... You copy the data that is under home/ to the new partition and then add this new partition to /etc/fstab and tell it to mount under /home.01:50
nach0sthere is a problem in the first line of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/01:50
laurens_sbacta: do dmesg|tail -n 1001:50
shaantanuk01:50
joyromrambo3: I know in Windows OS, there's a combination of key alt+numpad01:50
Bactalauren_s: ok i got some output...would u like me to pastebin it?01:50
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laurens_sbacta: yes01:51
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Bactahttp://pastebin.com/77473101:52
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erUSULshaantanu: take a look at my fstab to see what i mean i have three main partitions for my system... / /boot and /home01:52
AAAleHi all, i've got a nvidia 6600gt correctly installed but after 5 minutes playing in all games system freeze. Someone got this kind of problem?01:53
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kaotAAAle: you get this under windows at all too?  almost sounds like you might be overheating.01:53
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AAAlekaot, don't have windows installed, in gentoo all works great01:54
erUSULshaantanu: i found a how to in the web http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/01:54
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kaotah.  alrighty then.  When my vid card fan died, mine would lock after a few minutes, dunno what's up with yours.01:54
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AAAlekaot, thanks by the way :P01:55
erUSULshaantanu: making this is worth if it is the files under home the ones that takes most of the space of course. du -hs /home to see01:55
Udaniel01:55
Udanielhii01:55
Bactalauren_s: see anything wrong in that output?01:55
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evil_monkeyhello01:57
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stegozorHi everyone, I wonder whether it is apprpriate to report a bug on launchpad.net about a package (universe) that is not officially supported by ubuntu (no little logo in front of the package in synaptic)01:58
opexoci have opened this iso but not like a DVD disc, but like a some movie and that's why i can't profit from menu of this DVD. When i want to get ( Open->Play DVD ) then mplayer prompts "Failed to open dvd://1 " What can i do ?01:58
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laurens_sbacta: sorry, was away from keyboard: I expected it to show it had loaded the driver, but it does not. I'm no expert, so I don't think I can help you with your specific problem01:59
shaantanuerUSUL: u there ??01:59
erUSULshaantanu: yes01:59
tuxtuxbye bye01:59
shaantanujust a sec01:59
laurens_slaurens_s: you could search https://launchpad.net for your soundchip01:59
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Bactawhich is snd-hda-intel ?02:00
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shaantanuerUSUL:do u recon I shud add something like "/dev/hda5     /media/hda5      ext3" to my fstab02:01
shaantanu??02:01
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laurens_sbacta, no an Intel Corporation 82801FB02:02
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laurens_sbacta: which presumably uses snd-hda-intel, but I'm not sure02:02
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laurens_s!launchpad02:03
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/02:03
Gonzois ubuntuforum.org down?02:03
cafuegoNot just and-intel8x0?02:03
Gonzois ubuntuforums.org down?02:03
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Webspotare the ubuntu repositories running slow?02:03
laurens_sgonzo: seems like it here. Did you get your program to run?02:03
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WebspotOr is it just me?02:04
Gonzoyes... sort of02:04
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Gonzoanyway that solve dthe lib problem02:04
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gilianimaI've got a bug whn displaying text in some windows on gnome, the text disappear and reappear if I click on it. Someone knows how to solve this problem ?02:04
laurens_sgonzo: good :)02:04
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Gonzothx again02:05
Gonzo:)02:05
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erUSULshaantanu: take a look at the how to i gave you... http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/02:05
shaantanuk02:05
laurens_sgonzo: np, just wanted to know if it helped :)02:05
erUSULshaantanu: there you can see the entire process explained02:05
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shaantanugee thanx mann02:06
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Crazedis it just me or are there more ppl having trouble with the ubuntu repositories atm ?02:06
erUSULshaantanu: no problem02:06
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Crazedthey are rly slow and some dont even connec02:06
Crazedt02:06
Crazed 7543B/s 4m23s02:07
Crazed:S02:07
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laurens_scrazed: seems like it, problems with ubuntuforums.org too, as webspot also spotted.02:07
laurens_scrazed: slow here too.02:08
Crazedhmm ok02:08
laurens_scrazed: 27 kb/s02:08
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LiteWaithey all: just installed xubuntu and I can see my Matrox G450 mentioned in xorg.conf (and some reasonable modes).  But my display settings only show 320x240 :-(02:08
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laurens_slitewait: make a backup of your xorg.conf, and try to dpkg-reconfigure your xorg02:09
laurens_slitewait: during that, you can specify resolutions02:09
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laurens_s!dpg-reconfigure02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpg-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
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chameleonhi all. just browsed through /var/log/message and found this: Aug 24 08:02:06 localhost -- MARK -- What does it mean?02:11
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LiteWaitlaurens_s: which package do I reconfigure?02:12
laurens_schameleon: that your system is not dead02:12
chameleonthx god!!!02:12
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laurens_schameleon: It puts notes there if there' s nothing to report, basically, just to tell you that it was still alive & kicking (to at least some degree), so that in case of a system crash, you roughly know when it happpened02:12
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laurens_slitewait: xorg-server?02:13
laurens_slitewait: not 100% sure02:13
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chameleon,thx02:13
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laurens_schameleon: np :)02:14
protocol2is there command I can use in console to open up network manager?02:14
DBOprotocol2, which network manager?02:15
dmsantamprotocol2, network-admin02:15
laurens_sprotocol2, network-manager?02:15
protocol2yeah02:15
DBOuse gksudo on both of those02:15
DBOthey will want root02:15
laurens_sofftopic: doh, I just found out x-chat understands <tab> to complete usernames...02:15
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dmsantamlaurens_s, welcome to a whole new world of IRC :)02:15
chameleonstart woried.I have no 'MARK' relatives02:15
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laurens_sdmsantam, thanks :)02:16
frogzoois xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2 10.4 going to break x for me?02:16
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dmsantamfrogzoo, no02:16
laurens_sfrogzoo, it shouldn't02:16
rambo3_!xorgfix02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:16
dmsantamfrogzoo, it's fixed. 10.3 was the screwed one02:16
frogzoodmsantam: k, thx02:16
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lacostepfHi, I just installed ubuntu on a new machine and F11, F12 Home and End keys don't work with my keyboard (Logitech Deluxe Access). I've tried showkeys in the console and they don't seem to be recognized. How can I make those keys work ?02:18
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LiteWaitlaurens_s: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ran me through it.  Now (embarrased to say) how do I restart X?02:19
laurens_s!x-restart02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x-restart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
protocol2I just got network settings.....it didnt take me to network-manager02:19
laurens_sLiteWait, are you in x now?02:19
fyrestrtrLiteWait: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:20
laurens_sfyrestrtr, tnx :)02:20
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webguywhen i do ls -a can someone tell me what each column represents02:20
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protocol2how do I start network-manager applet?02:20
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laurens_sprotocol2, do you have it installed?02:20
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protocol2yeah02:20
LiteWaitall: to late I just rebooted :-)02:21
Nameeaterwhen I do ls -a, I only see one column02:21
fyrestrtrwebguy: each column is a list of files.02:21
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protocol2normally it shows after I boot up02:21
protocol2but this time it hasnt02:21
laurens_sLiteWait, and? higher resolutions?02:21
laurens_sprotocol2, tried rebooting?02:21
webguyi should have asked about ls -l02:21
webguysorry02:21
Nameeateryes! :)02:22
protocol2maybe I should eh02:22
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protocol2but I know there a command to start it somewhere02:22
Nameeaterpermissions, user, group (or other way around), size, date and time, filename02:22
webguythe file permissions are the first column ... but what comes after that02:22
acidfkhi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me02:22
acidfkhi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me02:22
laurens_sNameeater, you conveniently forget the mysterious number after the file persmissions02:23
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webguyNameeater: that is exactly what i am trying to figure out ...02:23
Nameeateroh I didnt see that, my bad :)02:23
fyrestrtrwebguy: permissions, number of symlinks owner group size filename02:23
webguygreat thanks02:23
protocol2nm-applet?02:23
LiteWaitlauren_s: set the display default to 1280x1024, reboot and now the max is 800x600 :-(02:23
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spungzwhats ubuntu?02:23
alexdbkimspungz, a Linux distribution02:24
laurens_sLiteWait, but at least it's higher :)02:24
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protocol2thats the command I was looking for02:24
protocol2heh02:24
laurens_sLiteWait, perhaps the combination of resolution and colordepth is too much for your videocard02:24
Nameeater!ubuntu > spungz02:24
spungzoh computer stuff..kool. i dont know much about linux-im new here02:25
patientfoxwhat do i have to do to get gnome to show the system icon tray?02:25
patientfoxi dont see an applet for it...02:25
acidfkhi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me02:25
alexdbkimis there anyone use MonoDevelop on Ubuntu?02:25
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NameeaterNotification area under Add to panel02:26
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fyrestrtracidfk: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"02:26
Nameeateracidfk: try #ubuntu-xgl for help02:26
alexdbkimI have a problem with MonoDevelop on Ubuntu.02:26
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acidfkthanks! guys02:27
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patientfoxnotification area?02:27
alexdbkimMonoDevelop's code compeletion doesn't work on Ubuntu. Does anyone have solution for that?02:27
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Nameeaterpatientfox: I believe thats the tray?02:28
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patientfoxaww sweet02:28
patientfoxthanks Nameeater02:28
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Nameeaternot a problem02:29
spungznameeater is a funny name02:29
fuzzybunnyyeah02:29
dmsantamalexdbkim, its not an ubuntu problem. it's a mono problem i'd say02:30
dmsantamalexdbkim, get on #mono02:30
Nameeater:) thought it up when I was like 12 on dalnet ;)02:30
dmsantamalexdbkim, but there is almost nobody on #mono :(02:30
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fuzzybunnybtw everyone, I've decided to take a shot at Ubuntu (I'm a MS Guy) and I spent $1k on a laptop that should arrive today...I intend on putting Kubuntu KDE on it02:30
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alexdbkimdmsantam, yeah I already tried... :(02:30
HanzZare somewhere packages for sim 0.9.4 ?02:30
Miekgood choice fuzzybunny :p02:30
lupine_85did you check that all the hardware is compatible? ;)02:31
fuzzybunnythank you for the excellent stupport in this channel02:31
alexdbkimdmsantam, without code completion, C# coding is really painful02:31
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fuzzybunnyits an Alienware Area-51 555002:31
milkywayhello02:31
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fuzzybunnydebian runs on it02:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, im sure it is :)02:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, ill install mono, and see how it goes for me02:31
GibbsterHi. After I installed alsa-oss, my sound stopped working. Any advice?02:31
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fuzzybunnythank you Miek02:31
dmsantamalexdbkim, have you tried the mono documentation?02:31
spungzhello milkyway-are u another computer person?02:31
milkywayyes02:31
protocol1thats funny the reboot fixed my issue02:31
milkywayanyone familiar with apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 segmentation faults ?02:32
dalilamost of the search results i get seem to imply that there is an unresolved bug with ps/2 mice, is this a fair interpretation?02:32
protocol1Im curious as to why it did'nt show up on the previous boot?02:32
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fuzzybunnyso please tell me how this investment of time, money and energy into Ubuntu is going to pay off in the long run02:32
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alexdbkimdmsantam, but I found one good thing that since Mono follows MS's library architecture, most of them are compatible. The major differences between Mono and .NET is windows programming part which means while Mono relies on GTK, .NET has Form libraries02:32
fuzzybunnyvs about the same amount of money that I spent to complete my MCSA02:32
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taychouri-ahello?02:33
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taychouri-aAnyone there?02:33
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spungzim here02:33
taychouri-akk02:33
fuzzybunnyme too02:33
schunkme also :)02:33
spungzbut i dont know much about computers02:33
alexdbkimdmsantam, which means I can compile most of classes on both side02:33
spungzi wish i did02:33
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dmsantamalexdbkim, great :)02:33
taychouri-aI need a compiler, a good one that can make EXE's. cuz i have gcc i think and it cant make it02:33
GibbsterAnyone have any advice on sound troubleshooting?02:33
dmsantamalexdbkim, but winforms support is in progress02:33
Nameeaterare you compiling c code?02:33
lupine_85biggest advantage of running ubuntu? erm. where to start...?02:33
Gibbsterexes?02:33
taychouri-ai have to, i have to install GTK pod02:34
alexdbkimdmsantam, oh are they? =) that's good02:34
schunkexes are for windows :s02:34
Ngtaychouri-a: have you installed the build-essential package?02:34
laurens_sfuzzybunny, http://www.skarulis.com/?p=2202:34
fuzzybunnyno I'm being serious02:34
taychouri-adunno02:34
lupine_85taychouri-a: you need to build a toolchain to cross-compile to the PE/Win32 environment02:34
taychouri-alemme see02:34
Juhazdmsantam, we can only hope nobody will ever be insane enough to use that support to write something new02:34
lupine_85fuzzybunny: me too.02:34
Nameeatertaychouri-a: does the one in the repo's not work?02:34
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taychouri-anot exe02:34
taychouri-amy bad02:34
taychouri-alol02:34
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taychouri-aones ec02:34
taychouri-ait says02:34
Miekfuzzybunny: i guess it depends what kind of things you do with it02:34
dmsantamJuhaz, i think it's inevitable that somebody will :)02:34
lupine_85there are so many advantages, it's unreal02:34
taychouri-aIt Cannont Create Executables02:34
NgI would guess that taychouri-a saw a configure message saying that the compiler can't create executables02:34
taychouri-ai am a noob sorry02:34
fuzzybunnyI dropped 1k on my MCSA a year ago and its really paid dividends02:34
Ngyep :)02:34
laurens_staychouri-a, sudo apt-get install gtkpod02:35
lupine_85job-wise, you mean?02:35
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fuzzybunnyyeah02:35
fuzzybunnyhow is this going to broaden my knowledge horizon02:35
spungzare you guys all adults or just teenagers?02:35
fuzzybunnyand make me more marketable?02:35
Ngfuzzybunny: lupine_85: you should really be on #ubuntu-offtopic02:35
fuzzybunny<--- 2802:35
fuzzybunnyoh I'm sorry02:35
taychouri-a<----1402:35
lupine_85well, considering that most Internet servers are run on LAMP, knowing linux will really open up the market02:35
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milkywayany apache diehard inhere ?02:36
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Nameeaternever hurts to ask milkyway, you never know02:36
Gibbsteranyone have any advice on getting my sound working?02:36
Matthaihi, does anybody know how to set that my IP on freenode is invisible?02:36
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Juhazdmsantam, I'm afraid you're right02:36
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dmsantamalexdbkim, join DALnet and ask there02:37
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alexdbkimdmsantam, ok02:37
NameeaterMatthai: /msg fn'nickserv help  and not really the place to ask :)02:37
taychouri-aNg: I am getting the Build-Essential Package, is that what i need to not get that error?02:37
dmsantamalexdbkim, go to XChat->Server List. then select DALNet. then: /j #korea02:37
dmsantamalexdbkim, and maybe somebody there will know02:37
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MiekMatthai: ask a network staffer for a cloak, check the FAQ for more info: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml02:38
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lupine_85assuming the error was because you didn't have (e.g.) the linker (binutils) installed, "yes"02:38
taychouri-aNg:  The Effin file wont even download on synaptic02:38
taychouri-aIt said failed02:38
taychouri-a...02:38
Ngtaychouri-a: close synaptic and in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential"02:39
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taychouri-awhat does sudo mean?02:40
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lupine_85run-as-root02:40
taychouri-aahh ok02:40
taychouri-alol02:40
Ngtaychouri-a: it runs the command with root user privileges02:40
taychouri-aI always wondered.02:40
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lupine_85afaict it's like su -c but asks for your password rather than the root password02:40
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Linuturk_codecomes from the phrase sudoname, is my guess02:41
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patientfoxis anyone here using edgy eft knot 1 or whatever? is it relatively safe to use?02:42
Linuturk_codewhen you take someone elses credintals02:42
patientfoxi mostly want gtk+ 2.10... i dont know if they justifies the upgrade...02:42
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patientfoxim not familiar with how to upgrade from versionX->versionY in ubuntu02:42
rixth!upgrade > patientfox02:43
patientfoxthank you02:43
Nameeatermight want to ask the stableness questien in #ubuntu+1  as thats dedicated to the next release of ubuntu02:43
Linuturk_codeEdgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machine02:43
Linuturk_codeso says their topic02:44
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taychouri-aNg: Where are these servers located, its downloaded 38kbps..... I usually get 600kkbps02:45
Ngtaychouri-a: that depends which mirrors you're using, if any02:45
taychouri-aNg: k02:45
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laurens_staychouri-a, currently, the servers are experiencing a heavy load, because of the recent mishap with the broken xorg package02:46
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taychouri-alaurens_s: Oh ok. Thanks for the info!02:47
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laurens_staychouri-a, a lot of traffic is being rerouted to just 1 server, to be sure that no-one gets the broken xorg file, and that 1 server is therefor, heavly-loaded :)02:47
patientfox!help02:48
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:48
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alexdbkimAnyone familiar with Mono on Ubuntu?02:49
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milkywaycan anyone confirm that apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 is the latest (stable) package for server use ?02:50
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laurens_smilkyway, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all&keywords=apache2&sourceid=mozilla-search it si02:52
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laurens_sis, even.02:52
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milkywaylaurens_s, thanks !02:52
milkywayi'am still getting segmentation faults though02:52
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laurens_smilkyway, have you checked for faulty memory?02:52
milkywaylauerens_s, nopes. could do that. However i think faulty memory is not the case02:53
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taychouri-aWOw, i am missin so many packages. Thanks the Terminal tells me what i am missing !02:54
taychouri-alol02:54
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piratepenguinWhat ye need is a dapper-testing repository - any chance of that ever happening?02:55
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laurens_spiratepenguin, it's called edgy :)02:55
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madgoatSo this is the ubuntu help channel?02:55
laurens_smadgoat, yes02:56
madgoatcool02:56
madgoatI need help02:56
madgoati've got a old dell laptop, see02:56
madgoatand I would like to install Ubuntu, but It doesn't have a CDROM02:56
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laurens_smadgoat, how old is old?02:57
laurens_s!installation02:57
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:57
madgoatrighto02:57
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piratepenguinlaurens_s: well dapper-testing would be for packages that will (soon) become part of dapper, so we don't get mess-ups like the recent xorg xserver one02:58
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madgoati'll check that out, but this i unique02:58
Eldabbl all02:58
madgoatlaurens-s02:58
ag[1] hey... before i install ubuntu linux, i want to ask that will it ask to install a MBR like lilo, and if i click on NO on it will it prompt me to make a floppy boot?02:58
taychouri-ak,, i just finished compiling, and i typed make install, and it did everything. now where can i find the program!?02:58
madgoatlaurens-s: 466mhz02:58
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madgoatit seems the install docs have the prerequisite of having a CDROM02:59
laurens_staychouri-a, you could run the program by just typing the name02:59
TheFuzzballhow do I downgrade xorg to a stable version?02:59
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madgoatA netboot install is also available, but for now it is outside the scope of this document.03:00
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, What version do you have?03:00
taychouri-alaurens_s:  Typing the name where?03:00
laurens_staychouri-a, in the console03:00
Don_jrI"m looking over the ubuntu page, where can I find the text based install download?03:00
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laurens_s!downgrade03:00
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.03:00
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, how do I check, all I know is it doesn't work03:00
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, have you tried sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade recenlty?03:01
taychouri-athanks laurens_s03:01
Schalkenif i replace my motherboard, cpu and ram, will ubuntu still be configured correctly?03:01
laurens_staychouri-a, welcome03:01
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, yes03:01
madgoatso I tried installing ubuntu on the HD, then swapping the HD to the dell03:01
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madgoatbut X is broken, and I'm not sure everything works properly03:02
laurens_sSchalken, probably: but you might run into trouble if your disk(s) are not at the same location03:02
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laurens_smadgoat, you could try to do sudo dpg-reconfigure xorg-server03:02
Schalkenlaurens_s: what do you mean 'location'?03:02
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Doudyyyhi there ! anybody know how to select a text in vim editor (square) ???03:03
TheFuzzballsudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server*03:03
laurens_sSchalken,  well, if it's at hda now, if it changes to sda (if you change from a ide to a sata IIdrive, for instance), you might have (fixable) trouble03:03
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Don_jrI treid installing ubuntu on my XP box, it froze up, so I tried agian in safe graphics mode and ended up in a bash shell03:03
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Schalkenlaurens_s: oh, well i will still be using sata.03:04
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, lol, mine says that xorg-server isn't installed03:04
Schalkenlaurens_s: so it should work?03:04
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laurens_sSchalken,  I had trouble recenlty with sataII, so that's why I warned about it :)03:04
TheFuzzballOGM03:04
TheFuzzballOMG*03:04
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laurens_sSchalken, as far as I can tell, yes, but I'm not 100% sure.03:04
laurens_sTheFuzzball, what's the rpoblem?03:05
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, luke@luke-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install xorg-server03:05
TheFuzzballReading package lists... Done03:05
TheFuzzballBuilding dependency tree... Done03:05
TheFuzzballE: Couldn't find package xorg-server03:05
Schalkenlaurens_s: okay then, we'll just have to wait and see. thanks a bunch! :D03:05
LeeJunFananyone know how to make dhcp not overwrite my resolv.conf? I use my own caching nameserver and go between static and dhcp networks many times a day. Right now I've got pre-up set to copy it back but still when dhcp renews it overwrites again.03:05
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laurens_sSchalken, good luck with it03:05
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, that's my problem03:05
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Adrosscan we safely update yet?03:05
SchalkenAdross: yes. the problematic package has been resolved.03:06
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Adrosshoorah!03:06
Adrosslet's hope that doesn't happen again03:06
Adrossof course, 20-20 hindsight03:06
laurens_sTheFuzzball, hm, that's not good..03:06
SchalkenAdross: :p03:06
Schalkencyas!03:06
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, how did that happen?03:07
ompaulTheFuzzball, did you try xserver-xorg?03:07
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, I have no Idea!03:07
LeeJunFanMS sends out bad updates all the time and people still PAY for that!03:07
Adrosslater03:07
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TheFuzzballompaul, that command doesn't exist the closest is xset03:07
misieq!nvidia03:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:07
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TheFuzzballompaul, what am I running if I don't have X?03:07
ompaulTheFuzzball, a terminal?03:08
madgoatlaurens_s: ill try that, hang a sec03:08
TheFuzzballompaul, no, I am logged in to KDE03:08
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, I probably made a typo03:08
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TheFuzzballlaurens_s,  luke@luke-laptop:~$ xorg-server03:09
TheFuzzballbash: xorg-server: command not found03:09
TheFuzzballluke@luke-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-server03:09
TheFuzzballReading package lists... Done03:09
TheFuzzballBuilding dependency tree... Done03:09
TheFuzzballE: Couldn't find package xorg-server03:09
TheFuzzballluke@luke-laptop:~$03:09
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, any typo in there?03:09
ag[1] how can i not install the MBR?03:09
laurens_sTheFuzzball, No, I did - hang on a sec03:09
taychouri-aAnyone here know how to get songs off an ipod, and put them on my comptuer?03:09
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, k03:09
laurens_sTheFuzzball, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:10
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ompaulTheFuzzball, please do not paste in the channel, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org in its place thanks03:10
warlocky!pastebin03:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:10
TheFuzzballompaul, sorry03:10
dmsantamtaychouri-a, gtkpod can do that03:10
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laurens_smadgoat, I made a typo, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:11
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taychouri-admsantam: I am on gtkpod, but i have no idea how to do it03:11
taychouri-alol03:11
misieq!xgl03:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:11
ag[1] how can i not install the MBR?03:11
ompaulxgl is beta software - please use #ubuntu-xgl for help with it03:11
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milkywayanyone here willing to help me with an apache2 segmentation fault issue ?03:12
hyphenhi03:12
xopher_isnt it alpha? :)03:12
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TheFuzzballlaurens_s, yes, it worked, but I still have the same problems with X03:12
ompaulTheFuzzball, what is the exact problem you are encountering03:13
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, what exactly is your problem?03:13
ompaulmilkyway, did you compile it in place of using the one in the repos?03:13
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hyphenDCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 003:14
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milkywayompaul, no. I used apt-get for install03:14
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TheFuzzballompaul, when I start my computer it doesn't load X and I have to run startx and then it logs into my user, no KDM, and when I click K menu> log out, there is not restart or shutdown option03:14
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TheFuzzballompaul, that is all I can see03:14
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LoRezompaul: already klined03:14
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ompaulLoRez, yeap, but my bans last longer03:15
ompaul:)03:15
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kaffeewollerhi03:15
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kaffeewollerwhat is the ubuntu equivalent of rc.conf?03:15
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TheFuzzballwhat is the usual version03:16
TheFuzzballof X03:16
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monteiroanyone knows a way to disable temporarly my touchpad ?03:16
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, I don't quite know what the problem could be, seems that gdm, or the kde equivilent is not running. Is there something like kdm?03:17
cbx33oo-bun-to or You-bun-to?03:17
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TheFuzzballlaurens_s, I have KDM, I am running Kubuntu03:17
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dmsantamcbx33, the first03:17
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, you could try to run that from the command line instead of startx03:18
cbx33dmsantam, certain?03:18
dmsantamcbx33, as sure as i am about the pronounciation of my own name :)03:18
Don_jrUbuntu install wouldn't work, I found debian, how similar are all of the different versions of nix systems you can download??03:18
gnubiecbx33:  all I have seen it was oo-boon-to03:18
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, ahh, but why isn't it starting when I start the computer?03:18
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kaffeewollerwhat is the ubuntu equivalent of rc.conf?03:18
laurens_sgood question03:19
_polto_did somebody use UCK ?03:19
laurens_sTheFuzzball, let's first see if this fixes it03:19
TheFuzzballk03:19
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_polto_i did try it and it crush , i did repare the proble, now it crush on another stage... did somebody success with UCK =03:20
_polto_?03:20
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Don_jrIF I install a different version of a nix system will it make ubuntu load easier?03:20
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fr500Don_jr: not really03:21
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TheFuzzballlaurens_s, yes, It fixed the log out problem03:21
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laurens_sTheFuzzball, cool03:21
bartekhello.03:21
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fr500Don_jr: what seems to bbe the problem'?03:21
RyanTMulliganompaul.. thanks for un banning me03:21
Don_jrDAmn, so I'm just sol for gettin ubuntu to run on my computer then...that sux03:21
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Don_jrfr500 lots03:21
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ompaulRyanTMulligan, it was dbo :)03:22
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bartekdoes anyone have any idea what to do when fsck blocks / dir?03:22
fr500explain Don_jr03:22
laurens_sTheFuzzball, I don't know the neat way to make sure kdm start automagically03:22
likomholass....alguien de argentina03:22
DBORyanTMulligan, only because I beat him to it03:22
RyanTMulligandbo... thanks for unbanning me.03:22
Jeroen2006hello03:22
Don_jron my laptop, I start the live CD and sometimes it will laod up, when i click the install, nothing happens, just lot's of cd buzz and nothing more, sat there for almost 2 hours yesterday and nothing03:22
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joltHow do i configure grub to boot a copy of ubuntu off /dev/hda2 in the grub config file.. i want it to use that directory as home as well... when i tried to enter03:22
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fr500Don_jr: bad cd?03:22
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Don_jrso I try on the computer I"m currently on, it's XP and I want rid of it, but wanted to test on my laptop first.  Well, live CD version won't even load on my desktop, locks up after loading the drivers,03:23
fr500Don_jr: maybe it's a gad disk03:23
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Don_jrI can try to re download03:23
milkywayDon_jr, have you got the right version ?03:23
fr500Don_jr: there is a check cd for defects on the boot menu03:23
Don_jrbut not sure if that's the problem or not.  when I ran in safe graphics mode on the desktop I ended up at a bash commnad03:23
jolthd0,A for the root partition, it didnt work... set the kernel line to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash03:24
TheFuzzballlaurens_s, thanks for your help anyway03:24
Don_jrfr500 I ran that with no errors03:24
fr500hmmm03:24
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fr500wrong platform maybe03:24
bartekdoes anyone have any idea what to do when fsck blocks directory tree?03:24
fr500what image did you download?03:24
Don_jrwhat ya mean?03:24
milkywaydon_jr try alternate version03:24
Don_jrnot sure what ya mean?03:24
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Don_jrI have ubuntu, you mean to try xubunut?03:25
joltWhat am i missing with the whole grub thing03:25
overriddengood afternoon you peeps03:25
Jeroen2006hello does someone know wich channels i have to click in the repository's?03:25
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overriddenwhat do ya mean Jeroen2006 ?03:25
Don_jrI downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS03:25
madgoatlauren-s:that worked, Thanks!03:26
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Jeroen2006@overridden well i'm a complete noob and having trouble to get programs03:26
SillyZgmorning03:26
Don_jrmilkyway by alternate version to you mean I should try the Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu?03:26
laurens_sTheFuzzball, thanks, you're welcome!03:26
fr500Don_jr: i386, amdx64 or power pc, that is what i mean03:27
overriddenhave you used the terminal before Jeroen2006 ?03:27
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likomalguien de argentina03:27
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g-hennahi03:27
Don_jrfr500 I"m not sure, I believe i38603:27
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fr500likom: #ubuntu_es03:27
fr500Don_jr: you should check that03:27
Don_jrno03:27
Jeroen2006 overridden a little bit..03:27
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SillyZintresting question for the gurus, why under 'ubuntu' the samba configuration seems to be a fire and forget, up and running out of the box, while under xubuntu, theres no configuration..... any ideas?03:27
g-hennai want to use eclipse on kubuntu, but using on sun java, not on gcj; so what do i have to do to get rid of all the gcj-stuff that comes with it?03:27
Don_jrI have the PC intel (X86) download03:28
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fr500Don_jr: that should be fine03:28
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fr500Don_jr: in the download area, there is an X86 alternate version03:28
g-hennai apt-got the source and want to build, but - as i said - without gcj-deps03:28
Don_jrdebian is installing just fine....heh03:28
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overriddenin your terminal type : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:28
fr500you should try that one03:28
overriddenen read it Jeroen200603:28
darksoul_is there i wine how to anywhere for dapper? every time i try running a program, the second time, i just get pure errors, the first time it almost always works fine03:28
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Don_jrfr500 I"m downloading it now03:28
SillyZuse automatix to install wine darksoul_03:28
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darksoul_in other words the second time it just wont run, not even steam03:28
fr500Don_jr: ok03:29
Don_jrdoes it come with the same packages that the first one comes with?03:29
fr500Don_jr: i'm out, good luck03:29
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Don_jrfr500 I went and bought a new wireless card for my laptop because I was told it would work with ubuntu03:29
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fr500lol though luck, i've never had such an issue03:29
Jeroen2006sorry would you be so kind to tell it 1 more time cant read as fast as the chat goes03:29
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darksoul_SillyZ, is automatrix any good?03:30
SillyZmost wireless cards, have to be a certain hardware and firmware revision to work03:30
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SillyZdarksoul_, worked for me, and slick install , fire and forget03:30
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overriddenin your terminal type : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:30
overriddenen read it Jeroen200603:30
fr500he left03:31
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darksoul_SillyZ, it just really irritates me the first time i install steam it works and i get CS:1.6 working at 70FPS, then i exit and try going on again steam wont even start03:31
darksoul_SillyZ, something about a .dll cant read.03:31
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Jeroen2006sorry i'm back clickt on the wrong button03:32
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milkywayDon_jr, i meant the alternate install cd found here http://sommerville.uvt.nl/ubuntu/6.06/03:32
darksoul_!automatrix03:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
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goldenflawHi, I have a problem with one of my kernel, when I try to boot with my newest kernel it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC, then KERNEL panic- not syncing IO-APIC + time doesn't work boot with apic=debug and send a report. What's weird in this is that it used to work just fine before.03:32
SillyZhave you tried to specifiy the inclusion of that dll ?03:32
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Linuturk_codedarksoul_, I had a similar problem with another game. try navigating to the directory holding the *.exe file and running it from there in terminal03:33
darksoul_SillyZ, where is the automatrix install guide?03:33
darksoul_Linuturk_code, that might work, i would have to try it though03:33
SillyZgoogle automatix03:33
SillyZnot matrix03:33
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, try it then, and let me know03:34
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Jeroen2006i'm a big noob so03:34
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, if it works, you can write a small script03:34
darksoul_Linuturk_code, i just deleted my wine files, im going to reinstall with this automatix..03:34
Jeroen2006adding repository's is kind a struggle for me03:34
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darksoul_Linuturk_code, how would i go about doing that anyway?03:34
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lilbithow does one list users in an ubuntu server?03:35
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, why? I hear automatix breaks stuff. search the wiki for the install instructions for wine. Choose the install method that installs directly from the wine repos03:35
Don_jrI'm being asked to enter the IP number for my primary nameserver, would that be the ip for the computer it's self or for the router?03:35
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Kamelihttp://www.ourtweaks.com/articles/linux.html03:35
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Jeroen2006overidden are you there?03:36
overriddenyes03:36
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, that worked best for me, and you have the most recent stable version, always03:36
Kamelithat guy man really has some serious skils http://www.ourtweaks.com/articles/linux.html03:36
Kameli:D03:36
goldenflawIf anyone cares, I have a problem with one of my kernel, when I try to boot with my newest kernel it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC, then KERNEL panic- not syncing IO-APIC + time doesn't work, boot with apic=debug and send a report. What's weird in this is that it used to work just fine before.03:36
darksoul_Linuturk_code, i have tried that. all it has done is give me problems03:36
overriddenmostly site's give you a "line" you can simply add in that txt Jeroen200603:37
darksoul_i guess i can try again and if it doesn't work do the auto thing03:37
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overriddenor you could use synaptic, and choose to add a custom repo03:37
Kamelihe flames ubuntu03:37
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Linuturk_codedarksoul_, if I'm not mistaken, automatix does the exact same thing, with the added risk of screwing a bunch of stuff up03:37
Kameliand tries to install 1 gb /03:37
Kameliand nothing else03:37
LiteWaitjust installed ubuntu and I can't find where vncserver to install it.  any hints?03:37
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Jeroen2006overridden ah ok so do i have to check all channels with the universe and multiverse chanels?03:38
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darksoul_Linuturk_code, prob, but there always is a risk in linux anyway03:38
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Linuturk_codedarksoul_, read the wiki carefully. it tells you how to configure everything, and if you have problems, ask around in #winehq before you uninstall it03:38
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xerxasLiteWait,  you want to share your destop ?03:38
taychouri-aI am trying to move a folder into another folder, and it says i do not have permission, how can i get the permission03:39
Jeroen2006bye03:39
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xerxastaychouri-a,  where are both folders ?03:39
supernix  Why does Gnome seem faster than KDE ?03:39
darksoul_Linuruek_code, where is the wiki anyway?03:39
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lilbiton a linux server is there a way to list user accounts?03:39
DooMRunneRhi03:39
LiteWaitxerxas: from WinXP I want to VNC to new ubuntu install.03:40
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taychouri-ak one folder is on my desktop, and one is in filesystem03:40
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Linuturk_codedarksoul_, it's in the wiki. I can't browse the internet here (web filter) so you'll have to go to www.ubuntu.com, click on wiki, and search "wine" from there03:40
darksoul_ah03:40
piratepenguinoh man.. reading stuff like http://www.ubuntu.com/news/opera9 "Opera is a perfect match for Ubuntu" is nearly making me sick.. According to http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy one of the philosophical ideals of Ubuntu is that (and this is /the main/ reason I installed dapper in the first place) "Every computer user should have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, share, change and improve their software for any purpos03:40
xerxasLiteWait,  I think there is an icon in the system or application menu that allows you to share your desktop03:40
taychouri-axerxas, k one folder is on my desktop, and one is in filesystem03:41
kling0nWould this be a reasonable place to post questions regarding the "etch" release? or is there a specific channel for feedback/discussion?03:41
xerxastaychouri-a,  source folder is on your desktop , and the other one is destination ?03:41
xerxaswhere is the destination ?03:42
Linuturk_codekling0n, if you mean edgy, try out #ubuntu+103:42
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taychouri-ain the filesystem03:42
DooMRunneRhmm, i have a "small" problem, i want to install dapper server on a IBM H20-blade over the remote-console, bute everytime i boot i get the error "cant read crt while initializing i8042" and the screen get black03:42
oiad_bla selber03:42
LiteWaitxersas:  nope.03:42
SillyZok if i download new icon sets for xubuntu where do they go?03:42
pianoboy3333What album is lucy in the sky with diamonds from? or was it a single?03:43
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HymnToLifeBeatles03:43
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Madkisshi all03:43
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piratepenguinhey03:43
kling0nLinuturk_code: thankx03:43
MadkissWhy does Ubuntu have LyX 1.3? And is LyX 1.4 available somewhere?03:43
SillyZI belive it was a single03:43
overriddendude, no lsd junky's here pianoboy3333 :p03:43
pianoboy3333;)03:43
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DooMRunneRsorry "cant read CTR while initializing i8042", is the error, not crt03:44
anders339I got big problem.03:44
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SillyZok so i downloaded a new icon set for xubuntu, where should it reside?03:44
anders339You see, I tried to install the ATI Drivers.03:44
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SillyZsomesilly place like /home/whatever/.icons ??03:44
anders339And it installed as it should.03:44
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anders339So I rebotted the computer.03:45
anders339And tried Cube 2 again.03:45
meliahola03:45
anders339Same laggy crap.03:45
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anders339How do I make the game speed up?03:45
taychouri-aAnyone know how to create a file in Filesystem03:46
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Linuturk_codetaychouri-a, you are probably lacking sudo03:46
taychouri-ak03:46
Linuturk_code!sudo > Linuturk_code03:46
anders339How do I make the ATI Drivers "count" ?03:47
Linuturk_code!sudo > taychouri-a03:47
taychouri-aLinuturk_code: I need to put somethin in the /mnt/03:47
anders339Like, it's the same FPS without the Driver then with.03:47
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SillyZok icon installation.... where do they go, all i have is an icon.theme file and a bunch fo folders for incons03:47
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SillyZsuggestions?03:48
taychouri-a!sudo03:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:48
Linuturk_codeanders339, either the driver isn't installed right, or it's the wrong driver03:48
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anders339It's the lastest one.03:48
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Linuturk_codeor your card isn't supported03:48
anders339Well, it worked on Windows.03:48
hexBwow loads of peple03:48
xevilanders339: what driver does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file say you're using?03:48
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taychouri-aLinuturk_code: Is it possible to make my system always have Sudo, cuz i am the only user on my compter03:48
GaTTohi03:48
Linuturk_codeanders339, windows != ubuntu03:49
Samuli^anders339, what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "driver" say?03:49
Linuturk_codetaychouri-a, no03:49
anders339ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE03:49
xerxastaychouri-a, where in the filesystem ?03:49
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anders339See, it's ATI03:49
Linuturk_codetaychouri-a, you don't want to do that03:49
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taychouri-axerxas: I need it in /mnt.03:49
darksoul_Linuturk_code, ill be damned, your way worked..03:49
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xerxastaychouri-a,  you need to be admin to create a file anywhere but in your home and in /tmp03:49
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xerxastaychouri-a,  you want to mount a device ?03:49
GaTToi got a problem with a x850 ati03:49
xerxasLiteWait,  did you find the vnc stuff ?03:50
SillyZthanks yall, found it on my own03:50
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anders339I don't know what the fuck I should do.03:50
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taychouri-axerxas: Well i am following the instructions in the readme for putting my ipod with GTKPOD, cuz i need to get the songs off it to put on ym computer03:50
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, no problem ;p I've got 3 apps installed with wine. I've even submitted a but that got fixed pretty quick ;p03:50
DBO!language > anders33903:50
anders339oh, sorry there.03:50
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BastupungenCan someone help me with an raid problem? ubuntu crashes to shell when raid drives added. Please PM me. Thank you very much!03:51
anders339but this really pisses me off.03:51
darksoul_Linuturk_code, to bad CSS wont run, doesnt want to, it says drivers out dated.. eh03:51
Linuturk_codeanders339, first, calm down. You won't get anything constructive done if you are angry03:51
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xerxastaychouri-a,  you want to put songs on your ipod ?03:51
hexBahhh my moniter goes and my mouse and key boared moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the others work perfectly, i've heard that there  are simple things you can do but can't see any...03:51
DBOanders339, please keep it family friendly =)03:51
Linuturk_code!ati > Linuturk_code03:51
taychouri-axerxas:  I want to put songs on my computer03:51
Linuturk_code!ati > anders33903:51
anders339eh, I'm not angry ;P But I don't like when I doesn't work my way :D03:51
xerxastaychouri-a,  ooh, no, you want to copy the music from your ipod to your computer03:51
Linuturk_codehave you seen that yet anders339 ?03:51
xerxasok03:51
Samuli^anders339, xorg.conf is the config file for X (program that handles drawing stuff)03:52
taychouri-axerxas:  yea03:52
anders339yes I have.03:52
anders339or..03:52
xerxasso you are compiling gtkpod ?03:52
xevilanders339: what does that file say under driver?  it should say "fglrx"03:52
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xerxastaychouri-a, sorry, I don't have an ipod, but I think gtkpod is not the only software that allows you to do that03:52
darksoul_Linuturk_code, is that normal? i updated to the latest driver, i think... it should work as i have got on css before i moved back to ubuntu..03:52
taychouri-axerxas: i guess so,, lol. i have gtkpod isntalled03:52
Samuli^anders339, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"03:52
xerxastaychouri-a,  ok03:52
xerxastaychouri-a, with packages03:52
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BastupungenCan someone help me with an raid problem? ubuntu crashes to shell during boot when raid drives added. System drive is not Raided Please PM me. Thank you very much!03:52
taychouri-ayeah03:52
xerxastaychouri-a, you now want to mount your ipod ?03:52
GaTToi need some help here i got a problem on ubuntu startup03:52
hexBdo you have a quee?03:53
taychouri-axerxas:  what does mount mean03:53
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, I haven't tried to install CSS on my machine yet. you could checkout the application databast at winehq (www.winehq.com) or .org I believe03:53
darksoul_Linuturk_code, im playing normal CS:1.6 with 0 problems..03:53
Samuli^anders339, cat prints out what's in that file and grep lists only the rows that have "Driver" in it.03:53
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xerxastaychouri-a, why do you want to create a file in /mnt ? (forget about mount)03:53
anders339wait..03:53
DooMRunneRwhat kernels are in the dapper server version?03:53
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darksoul_Linuturk_code, why? i have got CSS to work on ubuntu before.. it just seems i might have to update my drivers..again03:53
anders339Identifier"Default Screen"03:54
anders339Device"ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] "03:54
anders339Monitor"COMPAQ 9500"03:54
anders339DefaultDepth2403:54
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, there is an application database that lists applications that have been tried with wine, and fixes for common problems03:54
hexBHELP..03:54
darksoul_Linuturk_code, oh well.. thats ATI for you03:54
anders339eh.03:54
anders339I'm trying that site ubotu sent me.03:54
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dr|zedheya.03:54
taychouri-axerxas:  I need to put the ipod DB in there03:54
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taychouri-axerxas:  here i will put a paste bin03:54
dr|zedanyone else noticed http://xaraxtreme.org ?03:54
Samuli^anders339, my command, and what's that last Driver "something" ?03:55
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, well, you can try that. I'd make sure your graphic drivers are installed right, and also check the entry at winehq.com03:55
bartek"Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal" anyone can help with this :( ?03:55
dr|zedfull version now available. looks like the screenshots were done on ubuntu.03:55
hexBahhh... my moniter goes, after grub, and my mouse and keyboared go too, moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the other two work perfectly, i've heard that there are simple things you can do but can't see any...03:55
anders339oh that.03:55
Samuli^it should say "fglrx" and not "ati" for 3d-acceleration to work.03:55
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anders3398.28.803:55
erUSUL!paste > anders33903:55
xerxastaychouri-a, just wait 2 minutes03:55
GaTToplease help me with live cd startup03:55
darksoul_Linuturk_code, before i installed flgrx on my own from a guide, i tried the .deb from ati website.. i wonder if they are conflicting..03:55
xerxasi'm busy for 2 minutes03:55
Samuli^darksoul_, there's no .deb on the ati's site?03:56
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, that's possible . . . I'm no video expert though03:56
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darksoul_Samuli^, eh, i meant the sh script.. why doesn't ati make a .deb.. oh right they hate linux03:56
Samuli^:)03:56
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anders339gonna reboot now, my friends.03:57
Samuli^anders339, don't do that.03:57
Dr_Willisi thought i saw a detailed wiki page once on how to use the ati script with ubuntu03:57
Samuli^just restart your X03:57
xerxastaychouri-a,  ok, I'm back, you want to copy your db in /mnt ?03:57
XplOzIonhi all03:57
anders339eh, allrighty.03:57
xerxastaychouri-a,  can you give me the url you're reading, I'll probably tell you the ubuntu way to do it03:57
taychouri-axerxas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2153903:57
hexBdo you have a quee? can you even see em?03:57
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hexBme03:57
darksoul_Samuli^, do you know how i would make my system only use one driver? i think they are conflicting03:57
Samuli^anders339, ctrl+alt+backspace03:57
taychouri-axerxas: Read step 1 or 2 one of them it hink03:57
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NekoXPmiau03:57
GaTToi need some help with ubuntu startup on live03:58
Samuli^darksoul_, you can only use one driver at a time.03:58
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Samuli^darksoul_, the one that's in the xorg.conf03:58
BastupungenHello!03:58
BastupungenI need help with my server. The problem is if I add my raid1 drives ubuntu wont boot, but crashes to a shell at mounting root file system. System starts fine without the raid drives. Please help me, thank you.03:58
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xerxastaychouri-a,  ok03:58
xerxasreading03:58
XplOzIonis there any way i can make a folder see whats inside of several folders? to have some kind of 'mount --bind' so when i ls that folder it shows me whats in example1/ and some more folders.03:58
NekoXPsigh03:58
NekoXPdskdkasjsakj03:58
hexBhelooooo!!!!!!!!!!103:59
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darksoul_According to this my 3d card is using D3d HAL, version 6.14.0.0 is this bad for CSS?03:59
lupine_85xplosion: look at FUSE03:59
exmethixdoes anybody know how to use my tvcard (bt878) with xgl/compiz and ubuntu dapper??03:59
hexBahhh... my moniter goes, after grub, and my mouse and keyboared go too, moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the other two work perfectly, i've heard that there are simple things you can do but can't see any...03:59
xerxastaychouri-a, can you paste me the output of "mount" somewhere ?03:59
GaTTowhen i boot the ubuntu live cd when x have to startup give an error03:59
XplOzIonlupine_85. allright thanks03:59
xerxasjust type mount in a terminal03:59
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lupine_85never used it, but I think it'll do the trick03:59
hexBAM I INVISIBLE03:59
hexB????????????????//03:59
darksoul_GaTTo, it happens, i am NOT a fan of the new installer03:59
GaTToim invisible tooo04:00
XplOzIonlupine_85 i hope so, that would save so much problems04:00
taychouri-axerxas: What you mean the output of mount???04:00
GaTTodarksoul there's no way to fix ? o_004:00
hexBn one answers anyone04:00
xerxastaychouri-a,  do you now what a terminal is ?04:00
taychouri-axerxas: Yes04:00
darksoul_GaTTo, oh im sure there is a way, im just saying the new installer is a headache.04:00
Linuturk_codeGaTTo, have you tried the Safe Graphics mode?04:00
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xerxascan you open a terminal, type "mount" and copy/ paste me the output ?04:00
taychouri-axerxas: cp /mnt/ipod_control/itunes/itunesDB /mnt/ipod/ipod_control/itunes/itunesDB.bak04:01
xerxasmounting is the operation of attaching a filesystem to a directory04:01
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anders339nope. that didn't work.04:01
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darksoul_!ati04:01
hexBi don't like the new one that works using a livecd04:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:01
GaTTolinuturk yes alreary tried vga mode 640x480 safe mode all i do a check for bad files04:01
Linuturk_codeGaTTo, or, you can download the alternate install cd. it has a text based install that I like better anyway04:01
anders339Yeah, I checked that. But that didn't work, lol.04:01
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hexBscreams, farts, then pulls out all his hair... CAN ANYONE AT LEAST SAY THEY'VE SEEN ME04:02
taychouri-ahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2154004:02
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taychouri-axerxas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2154004:02
xerxastaychouri-a,  thanks04:02
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rukuarticHey, I have a question... When the computer boots, I want a command line to be executed as a certain user. Can anyone show me how to do this?04:02
xerxastaychouri-a, /dev/sda2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)04:03
lupine_85hexb, yes, but I don't have an answer04:03
DaardvarkhexB - i can see you04:03
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hexBthanks you04:03
lacostepfHi, F11, F12, Home and End keys don't work on my Logitech keyboard. Neither under X nor under console (e:g: with showkeys). Any idea ?04:03
xerxasthis means your ipod is in /media/ipod, just replace any occurence of /mnt by /media/ipod04:03
GaTTolinuturk but i must redownload all ubuntu ?? but i dont want to download and burn another cd if im not sure ubuntu work on my machine04:03
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xerxastaychouri-a,  you got it ?04:03
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taychouri-aohh ok04:03
taychouri-aone sec04:03
taychouri-alemme see04:03
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anders339Sooo, I can't use my ATI Card at all for Linux, or what?04:04
rukuarticGaTTo: You can try ordering a CD... I'd find it easier than downloading :P04:04
Daardvarkunfortunately this is only my first day of linux, so i am unable to help you hexB04:04
rukuarticDaardvark: Congratulations! :D I'm so happy for you. Its like getting married!04:04
gekko`rukuartic: during the boot process or when you have logged in as user?04:04
taychouri-axerxas: Thanks bro!04:05
taychouri-a:)04:05
rukuarticgekko`: During the boot process. I'm really hoping I don't have to write an init script04:05
GaTTorukuartic i dont buy a software that does not work -_-04:05
dmsantami want to change the default PATH for all users. how do i do that? which file?04:05
rukuarticGaTTo: Its free mate... last I checked.04:05
Daardvarkanders339 - ... I have an ATI card, is the reason my screen saver renders so slowly because ATI don't support Ubuntu??04:05
xevilanders339: are you sure you did everything on that link?  d/l driver, edited xorg.cong, etc?04:05
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xerxastaychouri-a,  no problem04:05
anders339yepp, edited xorg yes.04:05
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GaTTohow many user there got problem with ati card ?04:06
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anders339but the thing after that, i don't get what to confirm..04:06
anders339i got problems..04:06
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lacostepfother question: googleearth tends to completely crash my PC, probably due to some ATI Rage 128 driver bug. No OOPS though. Anyone seen soething similar ?04:06
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reluxI have never had a problem with an ATI driver..even on 64-bit edgy.04:07
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LiteWaitnot my day :-(  I can't find ssh server.  Search doesn;t find it.04:07
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anders339lucky you04:07
rc55Hi - I'm a sort of php and VB developer, and I was interested in coding for ubuntu / kubuntu - should I go the Gnome or Kubuntu path - looking from an ease of coding perspective?04:07
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rc55*KDE04:07
lhdsi need a software just like idesk04:07
javaJakeI upgraded xserver-xorg to the latest etch version (using Dapper), but now I've lost Ubuntulooks. How do I get it back? I have all the icons. Also, perl complains about not having locales.04:08
cbx33idesk?04:08
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javaJakeAny ideas?04:08
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reluxanders339: go to ATI.com and download the driver.04:08
siofwolves_is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down for anyone ?04:08
anders339yepp, tried that.04:08
GaTTorelux why x wont start on live cd all distro support ati card why ubunto not ?04:08
rc55siofwolves_: It is for me04:08
Linuturk_coderc55, i like gnome personally (php/mysql/html) you ought to download and try Bluefish04:08
lhdshow to run the ati control thing?04:08
siofwolves_kk04:08
reluxanders339: What kind of problem are you having?04:08
darksoul_that went smooth04:08
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anders339and when i try to open then ATI Control, it say's something about FireFL04:08
rc55Linuturk_code: I'll try that, thank you :)04:08
anders339FireGL*04:08
sholdenQuestion: Has anyone had trouble setting their Gnome-Deskbar hotkey?  I am trying to set it to <ALT>` but it doesn't seem to work.  Any help would be much appreciated!04:08
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gekko`there's no other way making a shell script, putting it to /etc/init.d/ and make a link to rcS.d04:09
reluxGaTTo: X starts fine for me. First off, nvidia also does not have open source drivers.04:09
Linuturk_coderc55, it's in the repo's, so the install it painless04:09
lhdsanders339 can you tell me what is the command that runs the control?04:09
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gekko`rukuartic: there's no other way making a shell script, putting it to /etc/init.d/ and make a link to rcS.d04:09
reluxanders339: Run the driver .run file and then do aticonfig --initial and then start X04:09
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GaTTorelux i dunno with other distro live all is fine i try ubuntu and it give an  error on x startup04:10
darksoul_damnit04:10
anders339it opens fireglcontrolpanel04:10
anders339"fireglcontrolpanel"04:10
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lhdsthanx mate04:10
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finalbetaHow do I save my settings from xawtv?04:11
darksoul_i change the freekin files and this happens! steamstartup failed, steamstartup (0xf,0x0034E064) Failed with error 1. The registery s in use by another Process, timeout expired04:11
reluxanders339: aticonfig --initial in the console04:11
darksoul_lol of course normal cs runs..04:11
lhdsthere is nothig special about the ati control since you can only ajust gamma its poor04:11
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anders339Found fglrx primary device section04:11
anders339Nothing to do, terminating.04:11
anders339that's what I got.04:11
reluxanders339: And then what error do you have when you start up X?04:11
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, well, the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org) and winehq will be of most help to you04:11
darksoul_eh i got css that just wont start.04:11
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finalbetaHow do I save my settings from xawtv?04:12
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, I've found so much good information on there, it's great04:12
taychouri-aAnyone know if the .m4a format can be used in ubuntu?04:12
darksoul_linuturk_code, no i figured out it was just that i rightclicked it.. it just wont start up now04:12
epscan some one please give me the result of aptitude search 7zip04:12
tRSSis there way to to mount a windows share from shell?04:12
anders339Oh wait, what's X? (Sorry, Linux noob)04:12
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anders339ATI Controll?04:12
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GaTTohow to get help lke other user ?04:13
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darksoul_Linuturk_code, i went on a CS:1.6 server and announced proudly i got it working on wine and all they said was "what you cant afford windows"... that made me sad04:13
reluxanders339: Well, you appear to be in X(The graphics window manager). How do you know the drivers not working? Because ati control wont open?04:13
cybergyp1ytrying to do an apt-get update/upgrade/install is *real* slow atm , is it the server or me ?04:13
xevileps: p7zip04:13
darksoul_Linuturk_code, so many people brainwashed, windows is the best.. for games yes, for the rest no.i do own a copy i just dont want to use it04:13
anders339no, because the games I try to open are extra laggish.04:13
epsthanks xevil04:13
reluxanders339: Have you restarted since you ran aticonfig --initial?04:14
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, yeah, welll since their systems are slowed down by antivirus programs and spyware, you can pwn them04:14
xeviln/p04:14
FlyingSquirrel32if I set up an edubuntu server with a tv tuner card, will the clients be able to use it? ei: run tvtime?04:14
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anders339they were extra laggish before the ati drivers.04:14
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lhdsany icons on desktop app like idesk?04:14
e-typeFlyingSquirrel32: you mean like sharing a device directly?04:14
siofwolves_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ is back up :D04:14
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GaTTohelp !04:14
tRSSis there a way to mount windows network share from shell/bash?04:14
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, you know more about your computer than those childish leet speaking kids anyway04:14
darksoul_siofwolves, its been up forever.. it just takes 3 minutes to load at times...04:15
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siofwolves_ah k04:15
erUSULGaTTo: what's the problem?04:15
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GaTTolive boot04:15
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lhdse-type hi do you know any idesk like software?04:15
FlyingSquirrel32e-type: well my idea is that if a client runs tvtime, since the software is really running on the server, it will be able to grab the data from the tv tuner card04:15
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e-typelhds: hi there04:15
cybergypsytrying to do an apt-get update/upgrade/install is *real* slow atm , is it the server or me ?04:15
Linuturk_codewhat is idesk?04:15
darksoul_Linuturk_code, True, but im still a little new at linux, i have been using it for about a year but most of the time its just to run a term server04:15
e-typelhds: describe idesk04:15
anders339i try rebotting abain.04:15
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anders339again*04:15
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GaTToERUSUL ?04:16
darksoul_Linuturk_code, i have to get to know everything GUI wise04:16
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Linuturk_codelhds, what is idesk?04:16
erUSULGaTTo: some details please... if it will no boot try booting with acpi=off04:16
endemicis there any way to get w32codecs working with AMD64? I've been looking around this morning but what I seem to find is out dated or does not work04:16
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lhdsputs icons on blackbox's desk04:16
oiad_bla selber04:16
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misieq!enlightenment04:16
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ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.04:16
darksoul_Linuturk_code, do you know what will make me even more sad? if css will run on cedega..04:16
kling0nwhich package do I need todpkg- reconfigure to re-check all .desktop files?04:16
e-typeFlyingSquirrel32: linux doesn't allow sharing of devices. what you could do is let the server stream it to a webserver wich lan clients can grab04:16
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e-typeFlyingSquirrel32: but you can't share devices04:16
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, don't pay for it . . . expecially a monthly fee04:17
misieqis enlightenment E17 already usable?04:17
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e-typelhds: how "heavy" would you like it, or how minimal? :)04:17
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, wine 1.0 is right around the corner04:17
lhdshein? i just need to setup an icon that runs sox command for my tv sound04:17
darksoul_Linuturk_code, i did once, and hated myself afterwords, it takes so much cpu and ram JUST to run, its not funny04:18
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Dr_Willismisieq,  i hear its useable to show off its eye candy. :P but  best is to try it and see if it works good for yourself.04:18
darksoul_Linuturk_code, i couldn't even play Simcity4 without MAJOR lag..04:18
JackMacOKCLinuturk_code: why not pay for cedega? i see nothing wrong with supporting something that works well. cedega plays my games pretty well for the most part04:18
FlyingSquirrel32e-type: ok, I think streaming it would be pretty complicated, no?04:18
misieqDr_Willis: how can i install it on ubuntu?04:18
Dr_WillisSimCity4 - now that was a dissapointing game.04:18
e-typelhds: you could use idesk itself, rox, nautilus, ...04:18
darksoul_Linuturk_code, whats diffrent with wine 1.0 compaired to the version we have now?04:18
GaTToERUSUL I SEND U A PRIVATE MESSAGE04:19
Dr_Willismisieq,  the E17 homepage has links to a Script that can auto-install/download/ the latest versions from source. is what would be best I think04:19
GaTToops sorry for cap04:19
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: I like cedega, i think it does pretty well all things considered04:19
misieqDr_Willis: oh, thanks04:19
e-typeFlyingSquirrel32: depends on your time and effort I guess04:19
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misieqDr_Willis: one more thing... i wonder how would it would work with xgl? there shouldn't be any problems i suppose...04:19
JackMacOKCtRSS: whats the problem?04:20
lhdse-type idesk gives back errors once i run it04:20
Linuturk_codeJackMacOKC, i don't agree with how cedega came about04:20
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Dr_Willismisieq,  read at   http://www4.get-e.org/  - they say E is broken at this time.. :P do not update.04:20
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Dr_Willismisieq,  and i wouldent even TOUCH  XGL at this time.04:20
FlyingSquirrel32e-type: what software would I do that with? any directions? can you point me in the right direction?04:20
Dr_Willismisieq,  :P04:20
darksoul_JackMacOKC, well all things considered, all your money is letting them buy staff to code, but in the end wine will win, just like how Linux will kill microsoft in time, why? because its open source... well i think wine is anyway04:20
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, it's supposed to be a major release. you have .9 something something04:20
misieqi'll just tryout the ubuntu's E 16.704:20
JackMacOKCLinuturk_code: yeah, a lot of people don't. i see that side too, but i have to move on at some point and support it. i personally dont like what they did, but they did so lets move on and try to make gaming good in linux04:20
tRSSJackMacOKC: is there a way to mount and access windows network shares from shell/bash?04:20
ompaul!samba > tRSS04:21
covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?04:21
ompaultRSS, have a look at the link the bot sent you04:21
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anders339eh, i tried things you guys have suggested, but I can't get Billiard GL work on a good FPS. And this computer has runned Half-life 2 on XP pretty good.04:21
darksoul_JackMacOKC, but i dont want to use cedega just because of the sheer amount of resources it needed to use just to run, then lag in the game for around 20 seconds..04:21
Linuturk_codeJackMacOKC, gaming is good in linux with wine and native games, imho www.wesnoth.org for example04:21
tRSSompaul: looking at it now04:21
JackMacOKCtRSS: man samba04:21
Don_jrIs it possible to run packages from, for exameple, a suse install into ubuntu?04:21
GaTTocan someone help me ????04:21
FunnyLookinHatwhat file are the nameservers located in?  I can never seem to remember  ^_^04:21
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: i dont get any lag in cedega running my games04:21
ompaulDon_jr, that would not be a good idea04:22
e-typelhds: like what errors?04:22
tRSSJackMacOKC & ompual: thanks guys!04:22
tRSS:)04:22
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Don_jrompaul okay04:22
YoussefAssadI need a simple graphical backup application; any recommendations?04:22
JackMacOKCLinuturk_code: i disagree, gaming isnt good in linux period. it works, but its not good no matter how you slice it04:22
darksoul_JackMacOKC, whats your cpu? intel or AMD?04:22
ompaul!components > Don_jr04:22
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: amd04:22
GaTTo-_-04:22
ompaulDon_jr, read the message from the bot - it might help explain how to get more ipackages for ubuntu04:22
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darksoul_JackMacOKC, well i have a 64bit AMD, and i run a 32bit OS, that might be it04:23
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JackMacOKCdarksoul_: thats what i run04:23
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GaTToi need some help why all ignore me ?04:23
anders339So how do I make my ATI Card actually count when it comes to prestanda, then?04:23
e-typeFlyingSquirrel32: palantir04:23
darksoul_JackMacOKC, well im not sure what it is then, it just took forever to do anything.. it might have been the UBUNTU i had at the time..04:23
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: i have an amd64x2 4400 running k7-smp04:23
FlyingSquirrel32e-type: thanks. I'll look into that.04:23
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Linuturk_codeGaTTo, most likely, we don't know how to help. we aren't ignoring you on purpose. keep in mind we are volunteers04:23
darksoul_JackMacOKC, how did you get CSS working anyway? what version of windows did you use?04:23
Don_jrwhere can I find the text base install for ubuntu?  I'm having trouble getting it installed through the live CD04:24
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: i dont run css. i run battlefield 204:24
hush`afkMy linux won't start-up - I've been wondering what was wrong with it for a few days. Last night I booted to WinXP and checked out ubuntu.com and saw the green headline with the steps to fix the error I am getting - I followed the instructions.. but for some reason it's still not fixed04:24
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Linuturk_codeDon_jr, download the alternate cd04:24
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FunnyLookinHatwhat file are the nameservers located in?04:24
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: which by my accounts is a pretty hungry game, and it runs pretty well under linux. i have a few issues i'm working out, but its linux - and its a windows game.04:24
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anders339can you run battle-field 2 with wine?04:24
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GaTToLinuturk but what i need to know is ubuntu support ati card ???04:24
JackMacOKCanders339: no04:24
anders339-.-04:24
darksoul_well cs 1.6 i have no issues on04:24
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darksoul_css wont even start.04:25
Don_jrLinuturk_code I'll try that again, it kept timing out on me earlier04:25
Linuturk_code!ati > GaTTo04:25
anders339So, I have to buy Cegeda..04:25
Linuturk_codeDon_jr, try out the torrent04:25
JackMacOKCanders339: let me take that back, i dont know for a fact, but i'm pretty sure that it wont run in wine04:25
anders339Or downloaded buy torrent :D04:25
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GaTToLinuturk what mean ati gatto o_004:25
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JackMacOKCanders339: thats what i had to do. i just did the 15 bucks for 3 months to try it out. so far its pretty good, there are a few kinks, but i'm impressed overall04:25
Linuturk_codeGaTTo, check your pm's04:25
darksoul_JackMacOKC, well i managed to get it running about a month ago.. on kubuntu.04:26
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WiilankQuestion guys: as a new user, i'm trying to get X into 1024x768...can someone give me an idea of what I should look for and what I need to do to troubleshoot this?04:26
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JackMacOKCdarksoul_: you got css running under kubuntu but not ubuntu?04:26
hushmy linux wont start up04:26
GaTToLinuturk what's a pm ?04:26
darksoul_JackMacOKC, ubuntu always seems to have problems with CSS and i dont know why.04:26
kling0nWiilank: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server04:26
darksoul_no ubuntu is like a dead end for CSS04:26
JackMacOKCdarksoul_: thats weird04:26
kling0nWiilank: *sudo* dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server04:26
jason_I have a quick question.  Is there an equivalent of the "Remote Desktop Connection" in Ubuntu (or gnome)?04:26
anders339well, then I can't get my ATI Card, to work?04:26
Linuturk_code!ati04:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:26
anders339WHat the hell.04:26
Linuturk_codeGaTTo,04:26
JackMacOKCjason_: yes, vnc04:26
Linuturk_codecheck that site for instructions for ati04:26
hushguys I need some help.04:26
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GaTToLinuturk i cant read this chat :(04:27
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ferzrhow can I change my screen resolution04:27
WiilankI tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server with no luck...will modifying my xorg.conf help any?04:27
covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?04:27
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Linuturk_codewhat is your native language GaTTo ?04:27
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GaTTolinuturk italian04:27
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darksoul_please let this be a fix for me..04:27
Linuturk_code!italian04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
bbrazil!it04:27
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:27
atsugnamgah, still can't get nvidia drivers to work on toshiba 141004:27
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darksoul_..not again, the freekin ubuntu forums froze!04:27
Linuturk_codethanks bbrazil04:27
kling0nWiilank: check your screen section.. look for default colour depth, then remove the alternative resolutions and see if it works.. if not, you most likely have an issue with your sync settings04:27
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atsugnamhas anyone got it working with a GF 420 Go vid card?04:28
Linuturk_codeVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! GaTTo04:28
slobokanI have been running Ubuntu on a dual boot machine for about a month now.  When i booted this morning I am getting a boot error, that /dev/hda3 failed : no such device.  Is there anyway I can recover this?04:28
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GaTTook thanks bye04:28
ferzrhello I need a little help with ubuntu04:28
kling0nslobokan: did you change the hardware configuration on the machine?04:29
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kling0nslobokan: new hard disks or similar04:29
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slobokankling0n: no I did not. Nothing changed.  Used the machine as normal last night, and shut down as usual.04:29
selinuxiumHi all I am trying to get my laptop to use the old radeon drivers as the ati ones cause my V old laptop to hang. Xorg loads the radeon driver then it loads the ati driver. How can I stop this?04:29
Wiilankkling0n: thanks I'll try to see if that helps04:29
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selinuxiumHi Seveas :)04:29
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kling0nslobokan: can you be more specific as to the error message? is your other OS booting correctly?04:30
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kling0nselinuxium: check your xorg.conf.. make sure you only have one device section for graphics (keep the radeon one)04:31
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selinuxiumkling0n: I have, it is a real pain!04:32
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Khamaelcan I use qemu for installing files via windows for a pda?04:32
kling0nselinuxium: pastebin your xorg.conf?04:32
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selinuxiumkling0n: k04:32
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zenek187dzien dobry04:32
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Linuturk_codeKhamael, some pda's are supported on linux. try searching your pda's model number on the forums, or in google, such as "modelnumber linux"04:33
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atsugnamgah, on top of this, sometimes when it tries to load, it completely freezes, no way to get control of machine, and have to reboot....04:33
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zax1can anyone recomend a good channel for help with web design and php ?04:33
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selinuxiumzax1: #phpfreaks04:34
slobokankling0n: Yes, when I boot I get the normal, "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." message, then it goes into the gui, until it attempts to mount the root file system, then it kicks back out and says: "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed : No such device"04:34
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atsugnamis there like a safe mode or something I can run startx under to test but keep access to a terminal?04:34
ferzrcan anybody help me with the screen resolution?04:34
KhamaelLinuturk_code: it is supported, but there was a problem with new software, and all the restore files are in .exe04:34
slobokankling0n: and yes, the other OS boots just fine, unfortunately (LOL)04:34
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atsugnamferzr, what do you need to do?04:34
selinuxiumzax1: ##css04:34
zax1selinuxium: thanks04:34
atsugnamie, just change it, or, can you not change it to what you want?04:34
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Linuturk_codeKhamael, what are the *.exe's ? compressed archives ? have you tried wine?04:35
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atsugnambleh, have to restart x04:35
atsugnambbl04:35
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KhamaelLinuturk_code: I will try wine first,then04:35
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darksoul_..now it just isint being fair!04:35
kling0nslobokan: from the grub loader try pressing 'e' on the kernel and then append "single" after the parameters04:35
kling0nthat way you should be able to boot in single user mode04:35
kling0nthen fdisk /dev/hda04:35
kling0nand press 'p'04:35
kling0nverify against /etc/fstab04:36
hushWho do I pay to get some help around here.. it looks like all of you are helping 1 person04:36
covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [III] ?04:36
Linuturk_codehush, what do you need?04:36
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Don_jrwhat is the differencebetween start ubuntu and start ubuntu in safe graphics mode?04:37
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ferzrcan anybody help mi with the screen resolution?04:37
selinuxiumzax1: Take a look at www.phpfreaks.com aswell04:37
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Linuturk_codehush, and we are all volunteers, you'd have to goto www.ubuntu.com and click the Support tab. You can contact professional support through there if you want to pay for support04:37
darksoul_Should i get winetools04:37
darksoul_Linuturk_code, should i get wine tools04:37
Linuturk_codewine doesn't offically support it, so it's really up to you04:38
Linuturk_codei don't have it installed04:38
covOPprometheusferzr, what is the problem?04:38
zax1selinuxium: thanks, i need some help now, that why i thought irc would be thjje way04:38
e-typeferzr: what's the problem04:38
e-type:)04:38
shawnr_anyone suggest a good programming language for writing gnome apps ?04:38
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ferzrI want to change the resolution04:38
slobokankling0n:  Add 'single' to the end of the parameters on the kernel line yes?04:38
darksoul_YESS04:38
selinuxiumkling0n: Paste @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21543  :)04:38
darksoul_YESSSS04:38
darksoul_YESSSSSSSSSSSSS04:38
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lilbitdoes someone here know of a way to list all the user accounts that exist on a dapper server?04:38
hushwhere is madpilot and all the other HELPFUL people...04:38
kling0nslobokan: yup :)04:39
darksoul_Linuturk_code, it just needed windows 98!04:39
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e-typelilbit: '$ cat /etc/passwd'04:39
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slobokankling0n:  still getting the same error04:39
Linuturk_codehush, are you blind?04:39
lilbite-type, thanks04:39
Linuturk_codehush, and we are all volunteers, you'd have to goto www.ubuntu.com and click the Support tab. You can contact professional support through there if you want to pay for support04:39
YoussefAssadhow about cat /etc/passwd | grep 'sh'04:39
darksoul_*dances* i got css working!04:40
SpCombor grep sh /etc/passwd04:40
e-typecat abuse04:40
kling0nselinuxium: that seems to look right.... what ati driver are you loading? fglrx?04:40
hushLinuturk - you don't want to offer help?04:40
YoussefAssadcat /etc/passwd | grep 'sh$'04:40
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tRSSwhat is the command for searching for .mp3 (or any .extension) files from shell/bash?04:40
YoussefAssadlocate .mp304:40
Linuturk_codegg darksoul_04:40
e-typemore cat abuse! someone call greenpeacs!04:40
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YoussefAssaddifficult to memorize, I know04:40
hushLinuturk: check the topic of THIS CHANNEL.04:40
e-type:)04:40
selinuxiumkling0n: I dont wan to load any... I only want radeon to start.04:40
darksoul_Linuturk_code, oh god.. lag04:40
hush Now talking in #ubuntu04:40
hush[08:23]  * Topic is 'Official Ubuntu support channel.04:40
Don_jrCan anyone tell me why when I load safe graphics mode it drops me to a bash cli?04:40
YoussefAssade-type: apologies! I know cat is not necessary there :)04:40
e-typeYoussefAssad: hehe ;)04:41
kling0nselinuxium: thats the point :) try running 'lsmod' and check to see if it's loaded04:41
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kling0n'otherwise pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:41
WiilankTo be honest, I wanna thank everyone for being so helpful (those who are offering advice). I'm quite use to getting rtfm with these sorta things04:41
YoussefAssade-type: My brain says "no cat" and my fingers go on and type it anyhow04:41
tRSSthanks YoussefAssad (or should I say shuk-run)! :)04:41
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covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [IV] ?04:41
Linuturk_codehush, this is the offical free support, yes. we are VOLUNTEERS. if you want pay for support, follow the directions I gave you04:41
kling0nslobokan i'd get a live cd of sorts and try booting from that, then mount your linus fs adn verify04:41
e-typeferzr: preferences menu has a screen resolution tool04:41
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YoussefAssadyou're very welcome, tRSS :)04:41
kling0nslobokan: perhabs run fsck04:42
e-typeYoussefAssad: hehe, habits :)04:42
YoussefAssade-type: patterend finger muscles... :)04:42
e-typelol04:42
e-typeYoussefAssad: will that be genetic? :)04:42
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hushLinuturk are you an idiot.. I'm in here asking for help and you are telling me to go pay to get help.. screw you - your kind of help isnt needed ass04:42
darksoul_THE LAG04:42
darksoul_ARHHH04:42
kling0ncountdown04:42
selinuxiumkling0n: I cant see any reference to ati. :)04:42
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e-typehush: that's not how you'll get a lot of help04:43
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kling0nselinuxium: how do you tell that it is loading the "new" driver then?04:43
Ng!attitude04:43
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:43
Wiilankcan i probe my hardware (cpu, memory, video) and get responses back from the command line or do I have to write programs which grep that info from conf files?04:43
Linuturk_code<hush> Who do I pay to get some help around here.. it looks like all of you are helping 1 person | Linuturk_code> hush, what do you need?04:43
YoussefAssade-type: wouldn't that be cool, toddlers going :wq all over the place04:43
darksoul_god..04:43
darksoul_lag..04:43
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e-typeYoussefAssad: rofl!04:43
darksoul_horrible04:43
slobokankling0n:  I have the live cd.  I will try that, thanks.04:43
user2_hi everyone04:43
selinuxiumkling0n: in /var/log/Xorg.0.blah04:43
oiad_bla selber04:43
hushLinuturk: that is called sarcasm. welcome to the internet kid04:43
YoussefAssadokay, I've got a LUG meeting. Thanks for the help people. Later!04:43
covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [V] ?04:43
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moe_evilhi04:44
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Nghush: Linuturk_code: please take your argument somewhere else04:44
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hushTY Ng04:44
kling0nselinuxium: have you tried using the 'ati' driver in stead of 'radeon' ?04:44
Don_jrGod I hope this install works finally....04:44
Daardvarkrukuartic - i didn't notice your message before, thank you :)04:44
e-typecovOPprometheus: if nautilus properties are unchangeable, check the ownership04:44
covOPprometheuse-type: ok, let me check04:45
selinuxiumkling0n: the ati driver causes my laptop to freeze. I have to use the vesa driver to stop it from happening. not ideal.04:45
internatok can anyone explain why i get sound when i do stuff in kde and when i click the test sound in the hardware setup, but kaffine give me no sound what so ever04:45
e-typecovOPprometheus: sorry, if the items in the file properties dialog in nautilus are unchangeable, more correctly04:45
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Don_jrCan anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card for routers is compatible with ubuntu?04:45
kling0nwhat about the atimisc?04:45
jujimufuhow do I change GDM themes?04:45
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darksoul_Linuturk_code, even though i have no use for this yet, can ya tell me why winecfg / audio section freezes the wine.cfg..04:46
frying_fishinternat: its probably not using the same sound output04:46
frying_fishjujimufu: system->administration->login window04:46
internatand how do i change that?04:46
internatcause i just realised vlc is doing the same thing04:46
dennda__hi. i want to install an nvidia geforce 2 mx. which driver package do i need? is it nvidia-glx or is it nvidia-glx-legacy?04:46
frying_fishdarksoul_: I think its an issue with jack audio stuff.04:46
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frying_fishinternat: change their sound output04:46
ericzdennda__ i have a geforce 2 mx 400 and use nvidia-flx, works fine04:46
e-typedennda__: legacy, geforce 2 is old04:46
ericznvidia-glx*04:46
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, mine does it too. I was told to leave the OSS drivers checked, and no others. it still does lag a little, but it's the best working solution I've found04:47
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frying_fishI am guessing kde isn't using alsa or something like that, try alsamixer to set up your sound with alsa, then try the stuff in vlc again04:47
frying_fishor tell vlc / kaffeine to use a different audio outpput.04:47
e-typedennda__: haven't tried the other package though04:47
dennda__well, i will try ;)04:47
darksoul_eh04:47
dennda__choosing the wrong package may not cause harmful problems?04:47
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covOPprometheuse-type: doesn't work really, they are set to -rwxrwxrwx and no chance to edit em04:47
ferzrHello, I try to change the screen resolution but I have only 3 options. and the highest is 1024x768. How can I set the system for more resolution.04:47
darksoul_Linuturk_code, is there a way to force wine to run faster?04:47
covOPprometheuse-type: I'm going to PM you04:47
selinuxiumkling0n: The xorg log is at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2154504:47
jujimufufrying_fish: no, I cant04:47
internatok vlc is using sound kaffeine isnt04:47
darksoul_VLC owns.04:48
frying_fishjujimufu: it is there04:48
ericzdennda__ you'd probably just get stuck in a console at the worst, then you'd have to edit the xorg.conf from there04:48
internatindeed it does04:48
moe_evilanyone con helpme with partman? I'm trying to use an existing partition. I create the files necesaries in the dev dir, but doesn't work04:48
e-typeferzr: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:48
frying_fishand thats where you go to change them... assuming your using gdm.04:48
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dennda__i will backup it04:48
Linuturk_codedarksoul_, don't know.#winehq will know more specifics than #ubuntu and me ;p04:48
frying_fishinternat: vlc is win.04:48
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kling0ndarksoul_: you might try prelinking it04:49
jujimufufrying_fish: where, exactly? I tried in kcontrol all the options, it's not there04:49
darksoul_frying_fish, im afraid your wrong, vlc is both.04:49
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frying_fishjujimufu: ahh right, so, kde and gdm interesting04:49
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frying_fishI wouldn't know about KDE, I use gnome.04:49
jujimufufrying_fish: meh.. ok04:49
frying_fishdarksoul_: I meant vlc is "win" where win means awesome04:49
frying_fishnot windows04:49
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frying_fishvlc does just about every OS there is04:49
darksoul_oh sry04:50
e-typefyrfaktry: :)04:50
kling0njujimufu: perhaps 'gdmsetup' ??04:50
frying_fishits the *only* video player I use on any of my systems.04:50
selinuxiumkling0n: look at lines 308 and 31404:50
lilbitwhy would someone enable root on a dapper server, is it so that  they no longer had to sudo?04:50
internatvlc unforunatly doesnt do my dvb properly04:50
darksoul_now im jsut getting pissed04:50
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darksoul_How do you force a app to use Open GL on wine?04:50
frying_fishinternat: does mine fine...04:50
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frying_fishhow do you use it for the dvb?04:50
kling0nhmm perhaps radeon chainloads the ati driver04:50
frying_fishas I used the scan stuff to get the channels sorted and output to a conf file, then just load that conf file and it works fine.04:50
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frying_fishdarksoul_: I don't think you can.04:51
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darksoul_frying_fish, sure you can04:51
frying_fishlilbit: thats one reason.04:51
mjrkling0n, ati should invoke the radeon driver, when appropriate04:51
frying_fishdarksoul_: surely not things that use directX.04:51
Don_jrUbuntu is almost installed!!! It's finally working for me!! after almost 24 hours of trying! lol04:51
internatcare to paste the conf file for me so i can have a look?04:51
kling0n"The ATI driver is very old for very old cards. I believe that if you get 'ati' and 'radeon' confused, then one will switch to the other depending on how it detects the card, but I forget which will switch to the other, or if they both do. When in doubt, use 'radeon' and try 'ati' if it fails."04:51
kling0nmight be the detection of your card04:52
darksoul_frying_fish, well my 3d acc is so bad on CSS its like 3 sec lag04:52
madman-what determine's a erroneous nickname ?04:52
darksoul_frying_fish, any chance you know how to raise open gl?04:52
frying_fishdarksoul_: CS:S uses DirectX.....04:52
frying_fishsurely?04:52
darksoul_frying_fish, acc*04:52
mjrkling0n, generally "ati" should work, but in practice yes, you may need to spesify radeon explicitly if ati doesn't work appropriately04:52
kling0nselinuxium: it reloads the radeon module correctly further down04:52
lilbitfrying_fish, thank you04:53
frying_fishdarksoul_: trying to tell it to use opengl won't work if the app itself isn't written for opengl.04:53
Don_jrCan someone please tell me if my Netgear WG511 wireless card for my laptop is going to work with ubuntu?04:53
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StephenLI'm trying to get Xorg to accept remote connections.  No matter what I try, -nolisten tcp gets set somewhere.04:53
StephenLWhat do I need to change to disable that option?04:53
darksoul_frying_fish, i understand that, but my accel is so bad on CSS its not funny, how would i raise my 3d accel to a higher speed?04:53
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frying_fishDon_jr: may need ndiswrapper.04:53
frying_fishdarksoul_: better driver....04:53
internatfrying_fish, care to paste somewhere ur congif for vlc that allows dvb?04:53
xst I'm having a strange problem: I have configured my first kubuntu box to print, through cups, at my second kubuntu box. It used to work flawlessly but suddenly all prints from the remote box is pure garbage. That is, there are some "@PJL SET" lines and nothing else. The host with the physical printer prints just fine and the test page from the printer wizard on the remote host printed a nice page too. But openoffice/acrobat/etc i04:53
xsts just garbage04:53
ericzStephenL: does gdm start X for you?04:53
darksoul_frying_fish, i have the latest one..04:54
xstAny ideas on how to solve it?04:54
Don_jrfrying_fish how hard will that be to set up?  I"m totally new to the nix system04:54
kling0nselinuxium: it is not starting the X server correctly? it seems to have no failures04:54
frying_fishor correct driver, and don't forget wine is their own implementation of directX so its not going to work like its on windows.04:54
StephenLericz:  Yes.  I believe so.04:54
frying_fishDon_jr: shouldn't be overly difficult, there are a lot of wiki's on the subject04:54
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Don_jrokay I'll do some digging...oh no04:54
Don_jrerror durring install, failed to create a file system04:54
frying_fishfun.04:55
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ericzStephenL: you'll probably have to take out the -nolisten argument in the gdm.conf - not entirely sure04:55
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StephenLericz:  Tried that and it still adds the option.04:55
Don_jrit went back to 'installing system' after I clicked ok......is this going to be drastic when I reboot? lol04:55
selinuxiumkling0n: yes. but I don't know if these would be radeon or ati. X starts fine it just locks up using the ati driver. Is the a command to issue that tells me what driver it is using?04:55
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RopeIm connected to my pc with ssh.. how can i copy a file to this pc?04:55
frying_fishRope: scp04:55
darksoul_Rope, wget04:55
Ropescp what?04:55
frying_fishscp localfile user@host:.04:56
pequatreHi. Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242874 ?04:56
frying_fishdarksoul_: wget won't work for that.04:56
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ericzStephenL: at the top of gdm.conf, you set "DisallowTCP=false" ?04:56
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Ropefor eg. scp /home/rope/file.jpg and then what? (im using windows 98 here...)04:56
kling0nselinuxium: it seems the messages you get is all from the radeon driver04:56
darksoul_frying_fish, yes it does, he just has to host a webserver on lan.04:56
frying_fishRope: ahh well, in that case you will need winscp04:56
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frying_fishif you are on a windows box.04:56
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frying_fishdarksoul_: yeah, but he would need a webserver04:56
RopeIm using PuTTy04:56
Don_jrOn screen I have "installing system, bar is at 15% and not moving.....mouse still moves.  Should I wait or is it dead?04:57
frying_fishscp works if you have ssh and you don't have a webserver04:57
ericzStephenL: well, maybe not at the top, but there's something in the gdm.conf somewhere about "DisallowTCP"04:57
frying_fishRope: I think putty has some command line tools for scp04:57
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frying_fishbut best bet is to just get winscp04:57
lassegswhere do i start if i want to find out why my laptop wont suspend-to-ram. Ive been googling it a lot and i cant find anything about it. So  I need to find out for myself. Where do i start?04:57
Hedahi folks, having problems starting evolution - think its a libbonobo problem - Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration - any ideas ?04:57
lassegsDon_jr, My experience is that its dead04:58
lassegs:P04:58
tRSSi am trying to find all mp3 files on a network FS, that I mount myself. What is the best way to find all the mp3 files and then delete them? I have tried locate but I can't get it to search only the network-mounted share.04:58
Don_jrOkay, I exited and i"m going to allow it set it's partition this time instead of telling it to wipe the entire HD04:58
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frying_fishtRSS: find /path/to/start/of/dir -name *.mp304:59
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Don_jrhad to be a mistake.  That's the farthest I've ever gotten with the ubuntu install thus far.......04:59
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tRSSfrying_fish: thanks, let me give it a try. one quick question though, I can simply pipe the results from the find command to rm and make it delete all the mp3 files?05:00
aunesmy mac laptop crashed and I've mounted the hard drive onto my ubuntu box. My problem is some folders are locked. How do I unlock them?05:00
juanhello05:00
covOPprometheusgood morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [VI] ?05:00
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daurnimatorhow do can i unrar files?05:00
daurnimatorunrar-free doesn't work for me05:00
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trappistdaurnimator: apt-get install unrar; unrar x rarfile.rar05:01
trappistdaurnimator: I think it changed to unrar and unrar-free05:01
Don_jrgrub loading please wait...error 1505:01
Don_jrthat mean anything to anyone?05:01
mjrtRSS, not directly, but with xargs like so (note to watchers: this will destroy your mp3s): find . -name "*.mp3" -print0 | xarg -0 rm05:01
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anders339i can't get the ati drivers to make any diffrents to gameplay.05:01
daurnimatorok05:01
Ackeubu_can i change the default screen used after bootup? I have to do ctrl+alt+F7 to get to the inlogg screen..05:02
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tRSSmjr: i have alot of windows users downloading songs and saving them on the HDD, so we want to delete them all, with a simple shell script05:02
anders339and because of that, my brother want's me to delete linux and install windows xp again :(05:02
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anders339this ain't my computer, sadly.05:02
darksoul_where is the cedega demo at anyway05:02
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mjrtRSS, oops, I mispelled xargs in the command05:02
RopeI cant copy =(05:03
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Daardvarkanders339 - what games were you hoping to play?05:03
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aunesDon_jr: 15 : "Error while parsing number"This error is returned if GRUB was expecting to read a numbur and encountered bad data.05:03
kling0nselinuxium: 'glxinfo'05:03
anders339Cube 2 and Billiard GL05:03
tRSSmjr: i have never used the xargs command. can explain a bit what the above command does?05:04
anders339Oh, and he wants to play BF2 and Steam and such things, but that is less important05:04
selinuxiumkling0n: Sorry. one moment kill x for a sec..05:04
Don_jraunes thank you, probably has something to do with the "couldn't create file system' error durring install eh?05:04
lilbitif post fix is processing mail, it is writing to a log what it does, there is a command for reading that log real time but I cannot remember05:04
daurnimatorok, prob: i can't open xmms anymore05:04
aunesDon_jr: uhh.. probably.05:04
anders339I want Cube 2 and Billiard GL run under atleast 30 fps.05:04
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kling0nlilbit: tail -f ?05:04
daurnimator- it just flashes open then closes05:04
aunesmy mac laptop crashed and I've mounted the hard drive onto my ubuntu box. My problem is some folders are locked. How do I unlock them?05:04
lilbityes05:04
Ackeubu_!screen05:04
daurnimatorwhats wrong?05:04
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen05:04
lilbitkling0n, yes05:04
lilbittail05:04
darksoul_Where is this cedega time demo located lol05:04
Ngdaurnimator: try running it from a terminal and see if it prints any errors05:04
mjrtRSS, the -print0 and -0 just make filenames null-terminated (so that you can't fool it with funky filenames that contain line breaks), and xargs generally just takes its input and feeds it to the given command as arguments05:05
daurnimatorah05:05
daurnimator** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: Master Mono05:05
daurnimatorGdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)05:05
daurnimator  serial 8 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 005:05
tRSSooh ok.. make a lot of sense now.. thanks mjr!05:05
daurnimatorwtf does it mean05:05
mjrtRSS, you can of course do a lot of other useful stuff with xargs in the same manner05:05
daurnimatorS:05:05
reitzellaunes: I'd try sudu passwd root ; su root and then try as root05:05
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seraphimanders339: you followed the instructions in ubuntu help?05:05
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reitzellsudo05:05
Ngdaurnimator: sorry, I'm not sure, but also, please don't paste errors in here, the channel is quite busy enough already ;)05:05
Don_jrIs ther a way to recapture an install from where it left off? or do I have to start it over?  And if I start it over would it be okay to just run it over top ot things, or should I reformat the HD and try again?05:05
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anders339yep I have.05:06
anders339And the ATI Installer.05:06
daurnimatoronly 3 lines - would take me the same to use a pastebin - "one sec"; "ok, uploaded"; "url: http://blah"05:06
oiad_bla selber05:06
anders339Nothing worked.05:06
seraphimDon_jr: you can format the partition during the new install05:06
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seraphimanders339: what does glxinfo say?05:06
lilbitwhat directory do most log file go to like postfix?05:06
xylaophenanhi all. i have 5.04 cd and dont have a speedy internet connection. if i install the 5.04 can i upgrade it to 6.06 ? is it easy?05:06
Nglilbit: /var/log/05:06
reitzellanders393:you have tried root?05:07
kling0nlilbit: check your main.cf for log info05:07
darksoul_i dont see a time demo05:07
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daurnimatorso...05:07
anders339yepp, i have tried root.05:07
daurnimatorwhats my error mean05:07
Dr_Willisxylaophenan,  may be better to go to the local bookstore and see if they got ubuntu included with a linux magazine. :P and reinstall dapper.05:07
daurnimatorany1?05:07
Don_jrseraphim when I did that last time I got "could not create file system" and it hung05:07
anders339It installs perfectly.05:07
kling0nlilbit: on my system its /var/log/maillog but that's freebsd05:07
seraphimis there ati or mesa at "OoenGL vendor string"?05:07
Dr_Willisxylaophenan,   upgrading to dapper.. will download  quite a bit of stuff.05:07
seraphimDon_jr: you got the newest release of the installer cd?05:07
reitzellanders339: well that's my one idea so I'm out. good luck05:07
Don_jrI just downloaded it yesterday05:08
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anders339Oh, were was glxinfo now again..05:08
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seraphimtry again :D05:08
seraphimanders339: open a terminal, type it05:08
Don_jrI"m going to format again and try once more05:08
daurnimatorok. unrar didn't work05:08
tRSSmjr: if I also modify the above command like this: "find . -name "*.mp3" -print0 | xargs -0 rm >> deletedFiles.txt" . will it output the files its deleting to a text file?05:08
anders339oh.05:08
daurnimatorhow do i get unrar?05:09
xylaophenanDr_Willis, how much mbs :) is it over 300-400 ?05:09
anders339where should i look?05:09
seraphimdaurnimator: there are two versions of unrar, unrar and unrar-free. you need the first i presume05:09
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seraphimanders339: somewhere in the middle ;)05:10
daurnimatori have the second05:10
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daurnimatorand it doesn't work05:10
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daurnimator- i can't get the first with apt-get - i think05:10
selinuxiumkling0n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21546  :)05:10
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seraphimdaurnimator: if you have all repositories you can05:10
daurnimator.. i think i do...05:10
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daurnimatorPackage unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:11
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seraphimits in the multiverse-repository05:11
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harisundHello! How do I detect if iptables is running or not? I can SSH into localhost, but not from another machine. It took me a while to figure out iptables wasn't allowing port 22 on eth0.05:11
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daurnimator!universe05:11
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:11
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seraphimharisund: by default it isn't active...you have to set it05:13
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harisundseraphim I know .... I did make some changes and all that ... I am talking about it in general.05:13
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seraphimso it seems you have set it somewhere. in a file or in a gui...can't tell you exactly where, because it depends on how you set it05:14
anders339fuck.05:14
aunesreitzell: Thanks for the tip.05:14
reitzellnp05:14
anders339then I have to uninstall LInux, and install WIndows XP again then.05:15
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seraphimanders339: is there ati or mesa at "OpenGL vendor string"?05:15
anders339Mesa05:15
selinuxiumharisund:  try      ps -C iptables05:15
seraphimso you made an error somewhere05:15
anders339oh.05:15
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seraphimyou set the driver to fglrx in xorg.conf?05:16
anders339Yeah, I think so.05:16
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anders339Gonna check.05:16
madman-how does one open a wab (outlook address book) file without the help of windows (windows is gone FOREVER !!) ? I have the wab file on my ubuntu desktop now. what linux program will work ?05:17
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frying_fishanyone know how to make lirc control gnome itself, so I can launch programs from the remote...05:18
anders339It became "ati" once agian, writed fglrx there and will now reboot..05:19
seraphimgood luck :)05:19
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MegantYou should reboot only X I think05:19
anders339are there any faster way then rebooting the whole system?05:19
anders339how do i do that then?05:19
seraphimctrl-alt-backspace05:19
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Megant/etc/init.d/gdm restart05:19
Megantoh, he left05:20
madman-how does one open a wab (outlook address book) file without the help of windows (windows is gone FOREVER !!) ? I have the wab file on my ubuntu desktop now. what linux program will work ?05:20
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seraphimyou don't, i expect05:20
e-typeMegant: what happened to regular init calls?05:20
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seraphimoh. madman-: http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html05:21
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Megante-type: i'm not running Ubuntu on this machine :P05:21
madman-seraphim: looking , thank you05:21
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ielliottAnyone able to help with a Vmware/ubuntu issue05:21
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gigawhat is the isu?05:22
anders339hello again..05:22
IndyBCHello. When the next Ubuntu version will be released?05:22
e-typeMegant: me neither, on any distro your init system needs it's vars05:22
ielliottIts not detecting my NIC05:22
anders339..just tried Cube 2, and it was a slow as ever. 6 FPS, Lol.05:22
shrif1indybc: should be released in october.05:22
IndyBCshrif1: ok. thank you.05:22
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Megante-type: well, however :P05:23
seraphimanders339: glxinfo says ati now?05:23
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gigaedgy release date: 10/2605:23
anders339I hate this so much :'( why cannot i run Cube 2 at a discent speed..05:23
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MegantCube 2 is a game?05:23
seraphimbecause your 3d-acceleration doesn't work properly ;)05:24
anders339eh, sauerbraten then.05:24
e-typeanders339: have you got your 3D card working?05:24
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MegantNvidia is better than ATI at the moment  :o05:24
anders339e-type = that's what's doesn't work..05:24
Fibertekagreed....05:24
MegantI have nvidia o/05:24
anders339stupid ATI =(05:24
pbxTroubleshooting wifi here (running 6.06) -- if I can see and connect to APs but, running through the troubleshooting guide, `sudo dhclient` falis with "No DHCPOFFERS received." Restarting networking, rebooting, no change. The AP is working with other clients. Suggested next steps?05:24
Fiberteki bought ATI for years.. and just sold out to nvidia last week :)05:24
e-typeanders339: follow the ati guide05:24
Paddy_EIREwhat is the best way to backup my ubuntu progs and config stuff so i dont have to re-download them all again incase i need to re-install05:24
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anders339Backup?05:24
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seraphimmy gf's radeon8500 crashes the complete system if i activate 3d05:24
anders339eh.05:24
Fibertekanybody know how to change the applications menu ubuntu icon .. ive checked all the forums and nothing worx :(05:25
anders339search, i dunno.05:25
ielliottAnyone able to help with a Vmware/ubuntu issue.. Not Dectecting my NIC in Ubuntu05:25
Fibertekim morphin my gui to osx and thats the only thing left05:25
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qsrvhi05:25
seraphimPaddy_EIRE: packages you download go to /var/cache/apt/archives05:25
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qsrvI've got this problem with the power manager - it does not react when I plug in or unplug the power05:26
e-typePaddy_EIRE: your question has no one answer to rule them all ;)05:26
qsrvIt just reports the state it was in when I booted up05:26
qsrvany ideas as to why?05:26
Paddy_EIRE<seraphim>yeah i know this but havent found a way of doing anything with them in that folder....there is over 500 odd apps05:26
neuroehello05:26
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neuroeis there a way to open a browser window in gnome using the command line?05:26
seraphimPaddy_EIRE: sure, you need the dependencies for your programs if you want to reinstall them all05:27
Pablitohello05:27
Paddy_EIRE<e-type>i didnt ask for 1 way i asked for the best way :)05:27
Fibertekanybody :) ?05:27
gigainternet in gnome -> lyns or something05:27
e-typePaddy_EIRE: there is no "best way"05:27
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Paddy_EIRE<seraphim>so where do they go do i have to no each 1 individually this would take a long time05:27
PablitoI'm having troubles with a Genius EasyPen in Ubuntu 5.10...(I'm not sure about the version number)05:28
Pablitowould somebody please help me?05:28
e-typeneuroe: you want a command line browser or just open it from the command line?05:28
neuroethe second one e-type ;)05:28
daurnimatorhow do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?05:28
e-typeneuroe: just the command: '$ firefox' for example05:28
seraphimPaddy_EIRE: you could try sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the folder where you backed them up...05:29
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seraphimPaddy_EIRE: but i'm not 100% sure if it works without any issues05:29
neuroesay i want to start browsing, graphicly, from /usr/share/gdm05:29
neuroee-type, can i just say "browse /usr/share/gdm" or something05:29
e-typeneuroe: so you want your filesystem in firefox?05:29
neuroeno05:29
daurnimatorhow do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?05:30
Paddy_EIRE<seraphim>i tried that it turned out to be a bad idea05:30
neuroenothing to do with firefox just the gnome file browser05:30
pbxNo wifi troubleshooting experts eh?05:30
gigafille//home/whatever/youwant/tobrose/onmozilla05:30
Pablitowill somebody just lend me some grey matter,,,to solve my Genius EasyPen trouble?05:30
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anders339!ati05:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:30
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gigasorry: to browse your files on mzilla, in address bar: file:///home/uname/etc05:31
neuroee-type: say i want to start browsing, graphicly, from /usr/share/gdm, can i just say "browse /usr/share/gdm" or something05:31
e-typeneuroe: what giga sais05:31
seraphimPaddy_EIRE: good to know :D sorry, i have no other idea then...05:31
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daurnimatorhello??05:31
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Dr_Willismoo05:31
Paddy_EIREok05:31
gotamaI need some help.05:31
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neuroee-type: not in mozilla, in gnome05:31
e-typePablito: is easypen a usb stick? or what kind of device?05:31
daurnimatorhow do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?05:31
synicdaurnimator: I'm afraid your question doesn't make sense.05:31
gotama I'm trying to install xubuntu using netboot.05:31
adaranhow i can pull a single package out of edgy into dapper using aptitude?05:31
gotamaI use the ubuntu installation cd and installed the server05:32
e-typeneuroe: "gnome" is no application05:32
gotamanext I tried to install xubuntu-desktop05:32
baskewi need help too, but its beyond the scope of this channel =] 05:32
e-typeneuroe: nautilus is an application..05:32
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PablitoIt's a serial device05:32
gotamaThe result is: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop05:32
gigasudo apt-get install xfce05:32
neuroee-type: the default browser application for browsing files in gnome is nautilus?05:32
daurnimatorwhen i transfer a file to a removable device, it doesn't go onto it - i just seems to stay in ubuntu's cache.05:32
Pablito(sorry, for not answering quickly)05:32
daurnimatorit needs to be "flushed" to disk or similar05:32
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synicdaurnimator: umount will flush it05:32
e-typeneuroe: yup05:32
gigaright-click media icon and click eject05:32
Dr_Willisdaurnimator,  use 'ls -l' and see what the file actually is. then when you unmount a device it should flush all changes to the device.05:32
gigait will update05:32
daurnimatorah05:33
daurnimatorok05:33
daurnimator-  why not have it be writing automatically05:33
tRSScan I pipe the results for my search of mp3 files such that they are deleted. basically, i want to be able to search and delete mp3 files05:33
daurnimator:S05:33
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Pablitoe-type: what can I do?05:33
Dr_Willisdaurnimator,  its cachhing the writes - as if it was any other normal device.05:33
e-typePablito: http://www.kalibalik.dk/anders/software/easypen/05:33
xanicsomeone with tv.out skillz?05:34
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neuroee-type: so i can just type nautalius --browser /usr/share to run it, thanxs for the help05:34
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daurnimatorcan i set it to not cache the writes?05:34
s_h_a_d_o_w_spress places -> home and navigate from there05:34
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e-typeneuroe: np05:34
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Pablitoe-type: THANK YOU!05:35
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Paddy_EIREis there somethin up with the forums05:36
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e-typePablito: np, but try to google yourself a bit... "linux genius easypen" is not that hard to come up with ;)05:36
Pablito:)05:36
UncleOp22SCSI question: are there known issues when installing to (old) SCSI disks?  I can boot and run (surf, etc.) 6.06 from my ATAPI CDROM, but if I touch the disks (e.g., sfdisk or mount -r) the system will freeze.  Not right away; as if something "stick" at some point.05:36
Jack_SparrowI am looking for a screen capture program that will let me selectively capture any area on the screen.05:36
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gotamaI've tried again and the message is: Couldn't find package xfce05:36
Pablitosee ya guys, thx05:36
sholdenQuestion: Has anyone had trouble setting their Gnome-Deskbar hotkey?  I am trying to set it to <ALT>` but it doesn't seem to work.  Any help would be much appreciated!05:36
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e-typeJack_Sparrow: gimp05:36
Ackeubu_i have different SCREENS on ctrl+alt+F1 to CTRL+ALT+F12, right?!05:36
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xanictv-out? :(05:36
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e-typexanic: ask yr question, someone may know ;)05:37
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macoIRC on Gaim keeps popping up error messages, about 10 of the same window at a time05:37
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FREThey all05:37
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xanichehe05:37
s_h_a_d_o_w_sui use x-chat05:37
linux__alienI ve installed ubuntu 32 bit edition and i use pppoeconf to configure my internet connection and i connect using pon dsl-provider. The problem that i face is that i get connected to the internet but when i leave my internet connection idle for some time i am unable to brows using Firefox after i resume browsing. but at the same time i am still online in xchat and i am able to converse with people here in xchat but i am unable to browse and even gaim05:37
linux__alienstops working and so is synaptic. Could some one help me Please ?05:37
Jack_SparrowThanks e-type I will check to see if it does what I want..  I wrote one in VB6 that will even let me capture pics or images that are otherwise restircted...05:38
macowell i'm trying to use xchat now to make it start working, but i can't get to linuxchix using xchat05:38
neuroeanyone: how can i make gaim start at log-in?05:38
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e-typeJack_Sparrow: you just want screenshots, right?05:38
xanicI need a HowTo, I'm trying to get any tv-out settings to work05:38
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Jack_SparrowIS the latest update safe.. no problems...05:38
Jack_Sparrowe-type: Not FULL screenshots no05:38
zyclophow do i disable IPv6?05:38
Jack_Sparrowe-type: Selectable areas05:38
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e-typeJack_Sparrow: imagemagick's import tool does that for sure, not sure of gimp05:39
Jack_Sparrowe-type: IS that in the repos?05:39
s_h_a_d_o_w_swhat program should i use to make glossy wallpaper?05:39
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wick2ohello, anyone familer with using inotify in ubuntu?05:39
neuroes_h_a_d_o_w_s, gimp05:39
e-typeJack_Sparrow: imagemagick05:39
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linux__aliencould some one help me please?05:40
neuroeanyone know how to make aim start at log-in?05:40
e-typeneuroe: add it to your session via preferences05:40
neuroeok thanks05:40
cr3how can I use a proxy server (which does caching) when synaptics downloads packages?05:40
s_h_a_d_o_w_scan't evn make circles with the gimp05:40
neuroeyou are on a role today e=E-type05:40
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linux__aliene-type, Sorry to disturb you could you help me with my problem. i ve posted my problem05:41
linux__alienIts quite urgent but i am unable to get rid off the problem . I need your help05:41
Jack_Sparrowe-type: Synap shows it is installed... It is not under graphics in the menus.. is it cli or ?05:41
zyclop!IPv&05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IPv& - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
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zyclop!IPv605:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IPv6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
e-typelinux__alien: not sure, your description is insufficient. try to ping an ip05:41
e-typeneuroe: hehe05:42
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e-typezyclop: to get rid of ipv6 you'll have to remove it from your kernel, hostfiles and modules05:42
linux__aliene-type, I get connected and i get the ppp0 interface too but when i leave my internet connection idle i.e without downloading something what happens is this. when i open firefox again and when i say www.google.com it says  Looking up Google.com and just waits and then says page cannot be displayed and at that time i am also unable to ping05:43
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KameliWhat package installs the OpenGL headers that other applications need when I compile them05:43
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lupine_85!libgl-dev05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgl-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
napkinwha, big channel05:44
Jack_Sparrow!imagemagick05:44
Kamelii need them to compile wine :(05:44
ubotuimagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB05:44
Cadetnapkin: well it is ubuntu, lol.05:44
maconapkin, yes hard to get a word in edgewise05:44
mr3vilhi @ all05:45
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mr3vilsomebody using xfce here?05:45
linux__alienlupine_85, could you help me with a solution for my problem please?05:45
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e-typelinux__alien: your connection is obviously still open, check if you can ping the ip of your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf05:45
idefixhe taskbar doesn't display the programs anymore neither does it display the different workspaces, what could be the problem?05:45
mr3vilidefix: can you right-click it?05:45
lupine_85linux_alien: I have no idea when it comes to pppoe, sorry05:45
idefixyes05:46
linux__aliene-type, it does not work at that time05:46
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mr3vilidefix: did you delete the things from your taskbar - maybe!?05:46
linux__alieni tried pinging it does not work but xchat alone works05:46
klaxiandoes anyone know how to get an external monitor to work with a laptop in dapper?05:46
idefixdon't think so05:46
idefixfirefox crashed and this is the result05:46
klaxianpressing the correct function key does not seem to work for me05:46
mr3viltry to re-add them05:46
AAAleKameli, sudo apt-get build-dep wine05:46
lupine_85!libgl-mesa-dev05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgl-mesa-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
e-typelinux__alien: try pinging an other known ip05:47
lupine_85!libgl1-mesa-dev05:47
ubotulibgl1-mesa-dev: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX development support files. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 132 kB05:47
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lupine_85might be it?05:47
lupine_85not that you want Mesa support05:47
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linux__aliene-type, ping does not work at all for all stuff tried that05:47
idefixweeeeeeeeeH!05:48
KameliAAAle: I got these errors in ./configure05:48
Kameliconfigure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support05:48
Kameliconfigure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:05:48
Kameliconfigure: WARNING: No OpenGL development headers were found05:48
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AAAleKameli, it's right05:48
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AAAleKameli, do sudo apt-get build-dep wine05:48
KameliAAAle: i need opengl headers05:48
AAAlethan05:48
Kameliwhy :(05:48
AAAle./configure05:49
e-typelinux__alien: you'd best run pppd in verbose mode to get some error messages05:49
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kkKameli: because you don't have the necessary build headers.05:49
Kameliok05:49
Kamelii do :)05:49
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dmoynehello ! ; I have a problem to play files "*.pls" or "*.m3u" with Amarok on my AMD 64 bits machine ; am I missing pluggins ?05:49
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Kameliit wants to remove flex-old, and one howto said that you must have flex-old to compile wine :(05:50
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AAAledon't follow how-to :D05:50
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Kameliok05:50
richiefrichdmoyne those are playlists are the files in the right spot ?05:50
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Kameli0 upgraded, 45 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:50
Kameli:O05:50
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AAAlesomeone got a freeze computer while playing some games with nvidia and dapper?05:51
cjonesi have  vlc installed and when running it i type ? and press enter but it scrols how do i get it to page ?05:51
dmoynerichiefrich : what do you mean ?05:51
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Kameliit will replace flex-old with flex05:51
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klaxiananyone know how to get an external monitor to work with a laptop?  pressing the function key doesn't seem to work on mine05:51
richiefrichdmoyne do u know what those files are?05:52
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e-typeklaxian: you have to define a second screen in your xorg.conf. find a guide on google ;)05:52
dmoynethey are part of the URL like : "http://www.classic21.be/rtbf_2000/radios/21128.m3u"05:52
klaxiane-type: thanks05:52
e-typenp05:52
Paddy_EIREdoes anyone know of a website that sells pre-installed ubuntu laptops05:53
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cjonespaddy_fire no but there is a compeny that sells nothing but linux laptops05:53
neuroePaddy_EIRE, why would you need it preinstalled? ubuntu works great on mine05:53
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ConnySomebody knows a Java Skat for Nokia Handy?05:53
dmoynerichiefrich but it is apparently buffering with no sound and error message "no demux pluggin available" !05:53
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Paddy_EIRE<neuroe> i just wanna make sure all the hardware and function keys work05:54
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neuroePaddy_EIRE, even the volume, and email shortcut keys were automaticly configured05:54
lupine_85plus, why bother paying for a copy of windows re-installed?05:54
krazykitPaddy_EIRE: typically, they will work automagically05:55
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manmadhahow to lock the screen .....in breezy it has the option.....how to do it dapper drake?05:55
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dmoynerichiefrich : do you have a AMD 64 bit machine ?05:55
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richiefrichdmoyne no05:55
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Coffeegrindscan someone help me figure out why my box keeps making me download php pages that I'm trying to serve,  I've walked through the steps on ApacheMySQLPHP i think I'm just missing something05:55
richiefrichdmoyne they play fine here.. 64 shouldnt make it not play05:56
e-typemanmadha: xlockmore installed?05:56
neuroePaddy_EIRE, i have a cheap HP latop (nx9010) that works pretty well with it, it has a fast cpu and crappy videocard but i don't use mine for games05:56
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Paddy_EIREoh nice one i was thinking about this one http://www.studentcomputers.co.uk/packard-bell-laptops/cheap-laptops-uk.htm the ibm at the top05:56
cjonesdoes anybody hear know much about how to use the man pages05:56
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manmadhae-type, no...what is xlockmore??05:56
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krazykitcjones: yes.  "man program"05:56
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e-typemanmadha: a package to lock your X05:56
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dmoynerichiefrich ok but do you have any idea about the pluggin used when playing the provide URL ?05:56
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manmadhae-type, ok i will try ...thank u05:57
neuroePaddy_EIRE, that seems a bit expensive to me05:57
richiefrichdmoyne they should just play.. maybe the files arent there05:57
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Paddy_EIRE<neuroe> really05:57
cjoneskrazykit hears what i am haveing a problem with05:57
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neuroePaddy_EIRE, are laptops more expensive in UK?05:57
ompaul!away > HymnToLife05:57
krazykitcjones: actually, i was about to run to lunch...05:57
richiefrichdmoyne and i dont use Amarok :P05:57
dmoynerichiefrich what do you mean by file : the pluggin ?05:57
Paddy_EIRE<neuroe> i would say so05:57
e-typeCoffeegrinds: module loaded okay? handler defined for the filetype?05:57
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drugme_Quick question, i'm at work right now. I already have windows xp on one of the computers, If i use ubuntu, can i dual boot it. I do remembeer in suse that was a option05:58
richiefrichdmoyne no no the files the  .m3u is looking for05:58
cjoneskrazykit05:58
richiefrichor .ply05:58
jpjacobs!away > jpjacobs05:58
cjoneskrazykit ok thats cool05:58
dmoyneah so you did not answer my question regarding Amarok !05:58
Coffeegrindse-type: wouldn't even know where to begin if it wasn't written in a manual .. /me = n00b05:58
KameliAAAle: i installed them05:58
Kameliwhat now05:58
AAAle./configure :D05:58
Kameliwhere's the open gl headers05:58
Kameli='(05:58
Kameliok05:58
Kameli=)05:58
richiefrichdmoyne that was?05:58
thotzdrugme_: yes you can dual boot ubuntu05:58
richiefrichdmoyne  do u need a plugin?  no u dont05:59
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manmadhae-type, can u say the diff between the GL vertion of xlockmore...what is the diff?05:59
Kamelihihihihi, ./configure is the most exciting issua =)05:59
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AAAlelol05:59
drugme_Thotz, What would be good preperation. Do i have to partiton anything before hand, Or can i just use the .iso and install05:59
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cjonescan you run xchat from console?05:59
Kamelii love myself when i can get it done without any errors05:59
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Kameliafter that i normally go buy some cola05:59
dmoynewhy Amarok is not wowrking but totem works !05:59
thotzalternate cd or desktop cd?06:00
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ubuntukann einer deusch _06:00
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e-typemanmadha: patterns use gl06:00
brukeranyone in here who are familiar with MoBlock?06:00
richiefrichcjones u mean without X started?  if  so then no06:00
thotzubuntu: du knntest in #ubuntu-de gehen *g*06:00
e-typemanmadha: use gl if you got a 3d card06:00
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drugme_I don't know, I haven't even downloaded it yet. If i did prob what i got off a torent site.06:00
manmadhae-type, oh thank u06:00
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e-typemanmadha: np06:00
dniteHas ntfs write support been ironed out in the newer kernels? I would like to install ubuntu again, but I don't have the time or resources to convert my one shared drive from ntfs to a linux partition ... ?06:01
dmoynerichiefrich : thanks for your contribution !06:01
e-typemanmadha: it is litterally in the package description ;)06:01
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e-typednite: use ntfs-3g06:01
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manmadhaok06:01
cjonesrichiefrich do  you know of one that will ?06:01
richiefrichdmoyne sorry idk aromak and how it works..06:01
richiefrichcjones there are many  irssi bithX06:01
Paddy_EIRE<dnite> bad idea to do ntfs write you will destroy your data06:01
drugme_thotz: it's desktop06:01
richiefrichbitchX06:01
KameliConfigure finished.  Do 'make depend && make' to compile Wine.06:02
KameliTHANK YOU AAAle06:02
Kameli<3 =)06:02
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cjonesiam running bitchx right now but iam looking for a msn client06:02
thotzdrugme_: there is a rather good desktop installation guide available... searching...06:02
AAAleKameli, i did that for compile wine for playing world of warcraft al thousand of times :D06:02
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cjonesrichiefrich ^06:02
Kameli:P06:02
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macosomeone tell me how to make network manager work06:02
macoplease06:02
linux__aliene-type, I got the problem i believe my resolv.conf has got updated automatically06:02
richiefrichcjones now u said xchat in the beginning and thats only irc06:02
linux__alienmy DNS entries are replaced with this nameserver 192.168.1.106:03
richiefrichcjones so you want a im client ?06:03
cjonesrichiefrich sorry brain fart i just got up06:03
linux__aliene-type, any clues?06:03
gnutshi everyone. Recent update to xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2ubuntu10.4 killed my xserver, and dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesn't fix it. it says no screens found. any help?06:03
linux__alieni am right now having this problem06:03
richiefrichcjones np man i have two for u let me look them up06:03
s_h_a_d_o_w_scheck the forumz06:03
cjonesrichiefrich k thanks06:03
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manmadhae-type, i installed it how to use it??i can not see this in menu(places..)06:04
drugme_thotz: i apreciate it06:04
manmadha&system06:04
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richiefrichcjones  bitlbee or  centericq06:04
e-typelinux__alien: have you got some dhcp client running for any interface?06:04
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manmadhae-type, ok got it06:05
linux__aliene-type, how do i check that?06:05
richiefrich<linux__alien> my DNS entries are replaced with this nameserver 192.168.1.1  <-- that should be your router.. :P06:05
cjonesrichiefrich what deposatorys do i need for them ...sorry iam a newb06:05
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richiefrichcjones i have no idea sir im on gentoo :P06:06
E-JeyI'm new to launchpad and the ubuntu development. How does it actually work? When are the subscribed persons discussing about it? Is it on IRC, forum or mailinglists? Thanks in advance.06:06
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thotzi can't find it :-(. does anybody know where i can find a good installation guide for Ubuntu Dapper?06:06
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sambagirlis there a intranet for ubuntu?06:06
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rskintranet?06:06
cjonesrichiefrich id like to learn that next :)06:06
sambagirlintranet server package i think06:06
rsksearch the repo06:06
alex_I can only get a resolution of 1024x768 can anybody help? I need better resolution then that06:07
gnutsthotz, on the ubuntu documentation site06:07
rsk!xorg06:07
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:07
richiefrichcjones i can help with that too06:07
overriddenalex_, => sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:07
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linux__alienrichiefrich, what do i do please help me06:07
e-typelinux__alien: depends... '$ ps aux | grep dhcp' might give a clue, but best is to check in your interface definitions06:07
wweaselCould someone help? I am trying to compile libmtp from source, but when running ./configure it tells me that it can't find the libusb libraries. I checked in Synaptic, they are installed.06:07
linux__alien e-type any file that i need to open and check ?06:08
richiefrichlinux__alien whats wrong sir ? i didnt read the whole conversation06:08
ubuntuhi room06:08
pequatreHi. Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242874 ?06:08
trappistwweasel: do you have a /usr/include/usb.h06:08
cjonesrichiefrich sweet but 1 thing at a time do you know how to make stuff page instead of scrol?06:08
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erUSULwweasel: the dev version too?06:08
gnutswweasel, are you in the libmtp folder?06:08
e-typerichiefrich: _looks_ like some dhcp client overwrites his /etc/resolv.conf while he's on a ppp connection06:08
richiefrichcjones in what ?06:08
e-typerichiefrich: can't really say for sure06:08
trappistwweasel: you probably need libusb-dev06:08
fsanchohi all06:08
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wweaselerUSUL: no, not the dev version too...is that's what causing my problem (I'm sorry, i've been using ubuntu for months but this is the first time i've dabbled in building from source)06:09
fsanchoi have just changed my network card06:09
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fsanchobut now i have a problem, eth0 has dissapeared06:09
richiefriche-type if he  has dhcp and sticks his router in that file  e.g. nameserver 192.168.1.1  it should work06:09
linux__alienrichiefrich, my resolv.conf gets changed after sometime so i am unable to browse after some time06:09
cjonesrichiefrich well i am trying to run vlc but if i type help or man vlc --help it goes by to fast for me to read06:09
wweaselthanks guys06:09
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linux__alienrichiefrich, any ideas? i am using PPPOEConf to configure my connection06:10
fsanchomy new network card uses the same driver (8139too)06:10
richiefrichlinux__alien u can  go static06:10
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fsanchowhen i load the driver, according to dmesg the card is eth006:10
richiefrichlinux__alien idk that app but an sure you can make your box static06:10
fsanchobut with ifconfig -a i see only eth106:10
thotzdrugme_: yeah, I think you should have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com06:10
richiefrichcjones yes yes  add a   | less06:11
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fsanchowhere is eth0?? i only have one network card06:11
linux__aliene-type, i have a doubt i guess i ve found out06:11
cjonesso like "man vlc --help | less06:11
cjones"06:11
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e-typerichiefrich: ppp and router... how... ;)06:11
sambagirlis anyoine using owl intranet with ubuntu?06:11
richiefrichcjones yes06:11
linux__alienwhen i gave this command cat /var/log/messages | grep dhcp06:11
erUSULwweasel: you need libusb-dev (header files)06:11
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cjonesrichiefrich thanks06:11
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linux__alieni got this06:11
linux__alienAug 24 21:06:26 localhost dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason06:11
linux__alienAug 24 21:06:26 localhost dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason06:11
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richiefriche-type where does ubuntu stick the network configs ?06:12
wweaselerUSUL: Done. Now I have a different error, maybe you can guide me on that one too.   ./configure worked, make worked, but make install failed.06:12
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linux__aliene-type, any clues?06:12
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wweaselerUSUL: hold on, i'll copy and paste one line of error msg06:12
OneSeventeenwhere do I find the graphics used for the mouse-pointer?06:12
richiefriche-type in gentoo it's in  /etc/conf.d/net06:12
e-typerichiefrich: /etc/network/interfaces06:13
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e-typerichiefrich: yeah well :)06:13
wweaselerUSUL: make[2] : *** [install-libLTLIBRARIES]  Error 106:13
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richiefriche-type can he post that for me.. err  linux__alien can you06:13
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GuBAheelo i'm try install Ubuntu Dapper in my Proliant ML 110, but i don't could ...06:13
linux__alienrichiefrich, you want me to post the output of /etc/network/interfaces?06:13
e-typelinux__alien: looks like you got your ethernet interface trying to get an ip, which overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf, and that blocks of course all outgoing dns stuff, leaving your current connections intact06:14
richiefrichlinux__alien please.. pastebin06:14
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linux__alienrichiefrich, the problem is that i am unable to browse so i cannot go to pastebin.com at all now06:14
richiefrichlinux__alien  now i need to ask..  so the /etc/resolv.conf is getting over written with what.. a blank file?06:14
oiad_bla selber06:14
cjonesrichiefrich 1 more do you know how to listen to last.fm in console?06:14
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wweaselI am trying to compile libmtp from source. I am getting an error message when I run "make install": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2155006:15
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linux__alienrichiefrich, no its got some entry like nameserver 192.168.1.106:15
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richiefrichlinux__alien ok then ill help you browse add these line to that file06:15
xanicsomeone who can help me doing TV-Out settings?06:15
GuBAPCI : Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge06:15
richiefrichnameserver 4.2.2.106:15
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xanicI can't get it to work06:15
richiefrichnameserver 4.2.2.206:15
richiefrichnameserver 4.2.2.306:15
richiefrichlinux__alien ^^06:15
linux__alienwhats 4.2.2.206:15
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richiefrichthose are dns servers06:15
richiefrichadd then06:15
richiefrichthem06:15
Don_jrwhat command do I do to check a cd for stuff?  apt-get cache?06:15
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linux__alienrichiefrich, one sec see this06:16
linux__alienauto eth006:16
linux__alieniface eth0 inet dhcp06:16
linux__alienauto eth106:16
linux__alieniface eth1 inet dhcp06:16
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wweaselHelp please? I am trying to compile libmtp from source. I am getting an error message when I run "make install": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2155006:16
linux__alienthese entries are from /etc/network/interfaces06:16
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linux__alienfiles06:16
linux__alienrichiefrich, any clues from this ?06:16
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_relachsI'm trying to set up my ati card, it says that i have to change the identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " in section Screen... But there are 2 Screen sections, 1 of them has the Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] " already, the others named "default"  what now?06:16
richiefrichcjones  err maybe madplay06:16
linux__alieniface dsl-provider inet ppp06:16
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linux__alienprovider dsl-provider06:16
e-typelinux__alien: you can't use more then one outgoing connection at a time06:16
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e-typelinux__alien: your interfaces will compete to set gateways and dns's06:17
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richiefrichu can have more then to up06:17
e-typelinux__alien: choose one and use that06:17
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linux__alieni dont know how it got updated06:17
richiefrichbut u cant plug them both in06:17
richiefrichunless you NAT them06:17
linux__alienmy ifconfig does not have that many06:17
linux__alienit has lo, eth0,ppp006:17
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linux__alienthats it06:17
richiefrichthats fine06:17
chris_Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me, I'm a new convert from Windows and I need help with my Graphics Tablet06:17
_relachsanyone?06:18
linux__alienthen how come my interfaces has that many06:18
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linux__alienrichiefrich, you want me to modify that file manually06:18
richiefrichlinux__alien did you add those lines?06:18
richiefrichlinux__alien yes06:18
linux__aliencomment out what in those06:18
erUSULwweasel: better paste the entire make log in a pastebin (http://pastebin.ca)06:18
alex___how do i make a selection while running this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for the resolution06:18
richiefrichlinux__alien no add them lines06:18
sharperguyomg, something terrible has happened06:18
linux__alienok06:18
sharperguytons of librarys have gone missing06:18
wweaselerUSUL: I figured out what was wrong, and I am embarassed at how stupid I was :P06:18
sharperguybut not the packages06:19
sharperguyi cant een use gdm06:19
sharperguyim on irssi06:19
trappist<3 irssi06:19
linux__alienok06:19
linux__alienadded06:19
linux__alienrichiefrich, i ve added06:19
sharperguyi cant even tell what librarys most of the are because it dosnt tell you06:19
wweaselerUSUL: If I ran make install once and got errors, then run it again, will I have a buch of duplicate files and junk left on my system?06:19
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sharperguythis is insane06:19
linux__alienthis is the contents of resolv.conf06:19
linux__aliennameserver 4.2.2.206:19
linux__aliennameserver 4.2.2.306:19
linux__aliennameserver 192.168.1.106:19
richiefrichlinux__alien  now try the net06:19
chris_Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me, I'm a new convert from Windows and I need help with my Graphics Tablet06:19
sharperguyhope i dont have to reinstall ubuntu06:19
linux__alienrichiefrich, does not work06:20
linux__alienping itself does not work06:20
linux__alieni ve not modified the interfaces file06:20
richiefrichwhat are u trying?06:20
sharperguyis there an apt command to check all packeges to make sure all the correct files are present?06:20
richiefrichping google.com ?06:20
erUSULwweasel: it should only overwrite the files....06:20
linux__alienyes06:20
wweaselerUSUL: alright, thanks06:20
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vookchris_, just ask a question.06:20
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richiefrichlinux__alien  ping 64.233.167.9906:20
sharperguyrichiefrich: actually, a better idea would be "ping -c 5 google.com"06:21
richiefrichlinux__alien does that work ?06:21
linux__alienrichiefrich, yes now it works but the reply is very slow06:21
profoX`chris_: what kind of tablet06:21
chris_Ok, is there anywhere I should go were someone can help me?06:21
sharperguyotherwire you get infinite pings06:21
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linux__alieni just now got a round trip packet06:21
sharperguyso can anyone help me?06:21
linux__alienquite late06:21
chris_My graphics tab is mindbogglingly slow06:21
chris_it's a Trust06:21
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linux__alienrichiefrich, Great now what should i do06:21
richiefrichlinux__alien then those dns work06:21
richiefrich:P06:21
chris_Trust TB-420006:21
linux__alienrichiefrich, ok now06:21
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sharperguyat least any suggestions?06:22
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richiefrichlinux__alien you should be good06:22
linux__alienrichiefrich, please help me. i am happy that you are helping me. i would be really grateful to you if you could solve this problem06:22
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linux__alienrichiefrich, the problem is that the resolv.conf would get updated06:22
profoX`chris_: that's probably something someone can't help you with here on IRC that fast, you would probably get more support on the forums www.ubuntuforums.org then you can put your question there and people with knowledge about graphics tablets will answer06:22
linux__alienautomatically06:23
richiefrichlinux__alien it works? no ?06:23
linux__alienthats the problem06:23
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linux__alienrichiefrich, yes it works now06:23
sharperguyi have lost lots of .so files for no apparent reason06:23
sharperguyand i need them back06:23
richiefrichlinux__alien then pastebin me that file06:23
sharperguyobvidously06:23
e-typelinux__alien: get the "auto" keyword out of your interfaces file for those interfaces that you're not using06:23
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sharperguyi cant run gdm or mplayer or loads of things06:23
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chris_Oh ok, I thought I'd just try here. It's something a friend of mine recommended doing. Thanks for your time though06:23
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AstralJavaHey guys, web-shopping for a new mobile phone, anyone got websites to check for compatibility with Ubuntu/linux?06:24
idefixmy new motherboard has an internal sound card, why doesn't linux see it?06:24
rbmanhttp://www.phpriot.com/3688  need help dual booting ubuntu/XP,  lots of notes and info posted.  Yes I've read through manuals and faqs...06:24
Paddy_EIREdoes anyone know of a way to convert/burn the bin/cue files i got to dvd video06:24
sharperguyand apt to ddpkg dosnt recongnise pacgekes as being boken06:24
sharperguy*apt OR dpkg06:24
_relachscan somebody please answer me? :-[06:24
klip@Paddy: Does it not work with Gnomebaker?06:24
linux__alienrichiefrich, you know what the resolv.conf has got updated again06:24
sharperguyI might have to reinstall06:25
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linux__aliennow its got one entry again06:25
Paddy_EIRE<klip>i dont think so06:25
linux__alienthe entries that we added have been removed06:25
AstralJava_relachs: Sorry, missed your question, could you repeat it please?06:25
klipI see, then I don't know, sorry.06:25
idefixmy new motherboard has an internal sound card, why doesn't linux see it?06:25
chamohello06:25
chamo!ati06:25
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:25
richiefrichlinux__alien o.O06:25
sharperguy!librarys06:26
_relachs(18:16:40) _relachs: I'm trying to set up my ati card, it says that i have to change the identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " in section Screen... But there are 2 Screen sections, 1 of them has the Id06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about librarys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
sharperguyargh06:26
sharperguyi am dieing06:26
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sharperguyi cant even spell dieing06:26
endemicsharperguy: or libraries ;)06:26
sharperguylol06:26
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idefix!internal sound card06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about internal sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
sharperguy!libraries06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
sharperguy!!!] 06:27
profoX`rbman: you get chainletter +1 as a response?..06:27
sharperguyi cant use linux or windows now06:27
richiefrichlinux__alien u can try this06:27
linux__alienrichiefrich, this is the contents of my interfaces file06:27
linux__alienhttp://pastebin.com/77495606:27
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AstralJava_relachs: Hmm... I dunno really, either one of them probably includes settings that you'd want, but lemme find you a wiki page that covers ati install, okay?06:27
chopchop_hi im having trouble with midi. i was following this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240171 but stuck there, the situation is the same as the guy named wpshooter06:27
fallingdutchi get the error message "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params" when i try to listen musik with xmms using my usb-headset (labtec) - what do i have to do so it works?06:27
linux__aliene-type, this is the contents of my interfaces file http://pastebin.com/77495606:27
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_relachsAstralJava: I am on the official installation wiki06:27
klipfallingdutch: is your headset listed in "lsusb"?06:27
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Psych0tiCI am trying to edit my partition with cfdisk, but it tells me I don't have write permissions, and I'm logged in as root. How can I get write permissions for cfdisk ?06:28
sharperguyhow do i fix librarys that have been deleted for no apparent reason?06:28
fallingdutchklip, yes and snd-usb-audio is loaded, too06:28
rbmanprofox as detailed in the paste, yes...06:28
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klipHm...06:28
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fallingdutchklip,  when the error comes my speaker is beeping ...06:28
profoX`rbman: shouldn't that be chainloader.. I never heard of chainletter06:28
idefixok, I installed a new motherboard after I installed linux, do I have to reinstall verything to make the internal sound card work?06:28
acersaleshi i have by mistake deleted my clear command from /usr/bin/06:28
sharperguylol06:28
acersaleshow to bring it back ?06:28
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sharperguysudo apt-get install --reinstall clear?06:29
AstralJava_relachs: I see, just found the page and noticed the problem. :)06:29
_relachsIt says i have to change the Identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] ", but there are 2 Screen sections, one of them already has the identifier, the other one is named "Default Screen"06:29
e-typelinux__alien: do you need the ethernet connections?06:29
acersalesthanks sharperguy but there is no package clear06:29
sharperguyargh06:29
linux__alieni have only one NIC06:29
_relachsso do i haveo to change def screen to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " ?06:29
linux__alienand i need eth006:29
sharperguyeverythings dead06:29
linux__alienonly06:29
linux__alieni dont have 2 cards just one06:29
linux__alienand i need ppp006:29
fallingdutchklip, any ideas?06:29
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Psych0tiCI am trying to edit my partition with cfdisk, but it tells me I don't have write permissions, and I'm logged in as root. How can I get write permissions for cfdisk ?06:30
AstralJava_relachs: Could you use say http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste your xorg.conf there, and mention how you would like your screen to look like, maybe some of us can find the correct screen section there?06:30
idefixsharperguy sudo apt-get install --reinstall clear? =answer to my soundcard question?06:30
e-typelinux__alien: I'd setup the ethernet statically or it will overwrite your /etc/resolv.conf06:30
sharperguyidefix: no sorry06:30
profoX` map (hd0) (hd1)06:30
profoX`map (hd1) (hd0)06:30
profoX`to put that before rootnoverify? might help in some cases06:30
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profoX`oops sorry06:30
sharperguyso noone can help me then#?06:31
linux__aliene-type, you want me to give some junk IP address06:31
linux__alienthat does not matter ?06:31
idefixI must have committed some serious sin again that everybody is ignoring me06:31
rbmanprofoX`, dude! for a second there I though you'd figured it out!....but it -is- chainloader in the file, I just miss-typed it in the paste <blush>06:31
sharperguyidefix:  same here06:31
profoX`rbman: oh lol :)06:31
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e-typelinux__alien: depends on your setup there.06:32
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profoX`rbman: did you try to put: map (hd0) (hd1) //// map (hd1) (hd0) //// before rootnoverify ? //// = a new line06:32
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sharperguyrw4ohkjggvhl.djn lkjnl06:32
acersaleswhat package contain the basic command like clear ?06:32
taychouri-aHey, does anyone know how to get that Mac Os Style Launcher kinda thing, its like a widget sorta thing, but i fogrgot how to get and use wdigets06:32
linux__aliene-type, i dont have a router. its a PPP Over ethernet connection. I use a modem which is connected to the ethernet card to connect06:32
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_relachsAstralJava: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21551 But i just would like to have an answer to my question, isnt it simple?06:33
sharperguyok how do i look at other things on irssi (other channels that im logged into)06:33
chopchop_hi im having trouble with midi. i was following this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240171 but stuck there, the situation is the same as the guy named wpshooter, blank line after tried aplaymidi -p 62:0 bla.mid06:33
oiad_bla selber06:33
harisundsharperguy: type /window list06:33
AstralJava_relachs: I'm trying to answer it, to me it isn't simple. :)06:33
harisundsharperguy: then type /window n where n is the number of the window you want to switch to06:33
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profoX`rbman: did you try like this: http://www.phpriot.com/3689 ?06:33
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harisundsharperguy: did you get my message?06:34
_relachsAstralJava: are you kidding me? :)06:34
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sharperguyyea06:34
AstralJava_relachs: Well i don't understand this, one of the screen sections already have that identifier, what's the problem?06:34
sharperguywhats #ubuntu-untegged?06:34
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taychouri-aHey, does anyone know how to get that Mac Os Style Launcher kinda thing, its like a widget sorta thing, but i fogrgot how to get and use wdigets06:35
e-typelinux__alien: remove the "auto" keyword from eth0 interface, and restart network06:35
KameliHey guys. What should to do after compiling it succesfully, how i can to play HL2 and install steamCCCCCCC?06:35
harisundsharperguy that even I don't know. It says that for my Ubuntu channel and I just leave it at that ...06:35
sharperguyim dead06:35
sharperguylol06:35
linux__aliene-type, so that will solve the problem06:35
Kameliiios06:35
sharperguyim going to ask on forums06:35
linux__alien?06:35
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Kameliwrong chan06:35
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kliptaychouri, you mean gDesklets or aDesklets?06:35
taychouri-athats what it is, thanks!!06:35
_relachsAstralJava: because i did not set it up like this by editing with gedit! It says in teh wiki i have to edit it manuelly to "aticonfig-Screen[0] "06:35
taychouri-a:)06:35
klipxD06:36
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verdurinI attempted to dist-upgrade a Debian unstable system to Dapper.  However, whilst everything is currently working, I'm left with a hybrid system, including the old Debian glibc, which is causing some conflicts.06:36
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linux__aliene-type, should i remove dhcp also from the file?06:36
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e-typelinux__alien: it will stop dhcp from overwriting /etc/resolv.conf for your eth0 device06:36
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verdurinWould it be simpler just to install Dapper from scratch, or is there a way of resolving this hybrid situation?06:36
e-typelinux__alien: just the 'auto' keyword should do06:36
_relachsAstralJava: So my question is: do i have to change Identifier"DefaultScreen" to Identifier"DefaultScreen" to "aticonfig-Screen[0] "06:36
fallingdutchmy usb-headset (labtec) beeps when i try using it with xmms and i get the error "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params", it is listed in lsusb and snd-usb-audio is loaded; it works with knoppix 5.0, arch is amd64. any ideas how to solve the problem?06:36
linux__alienok let me try06:36
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IndyBCknoppix is debian-based?06:38
acersalesno06:38
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ompaulIndyBC, yes and it has its own channel06:39
acersalesIndyBC, i dont know06:39
ToHellWithGAmy netboot installation is failing with the error "Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu7_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.11_i386.deb"06:39
_relachsAstralJava: ?06:39
IndyBCompaul: k, thx06:39
Fibertekso anyways.. got disco'd earlier... anybody know how to change the applications menu icon...06:39
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acersalesompaul, may be write i am wrong for sure06:39
acersalessorry06:39
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Fibertekive checked everything in the forums and does not work06:39
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acersalesIndyBC, knoppix is the best live cd06:39
AstralJava_relachs: Well apparently the wiki page is confusing. :)06:39
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acersalesIndyBC, good luck with it06:39
IndyBCI don't use it.06:39
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webguyin my cron job i have the following line:   php script.php >> script.log  -- this appends the new log infomration at the end of the file ... is there a way to instead append at the beginning of the file06:40
acersalesopen and add it :D06:40
Corporal_DirgeFibertek, Have you tried changing the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps/ ?06:40
AstralJava_relachs: You can change the other Screen's identifier to look as intended, and then edit the other so that the identifier's aren't the same. I don't know whether it's needed, since I don't know whether your X looks like you want it to.06:40
Fibertekyes..06:41
Fibertekdistributor-logo06:41
fallingdutch#linux06:41
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NeXoRi really dont like the latest cd from ubuntu :( ive installed ubuntu before without any problems from the older realeases but now, i boot up and it starts ubuntu and i click the 'install' link on the gnome desktop. I edit the settings as i like and it starts to install and when it comes to 69% it just stops.. nothing happens, i can still move the mouse but everything besides that seems frozen..06:41
Corporal_DirgeFibertek, And then you restarted after changing the icon?06:41
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vookhmm, for some reason my resolv.conf keeps being overwritten with just the first two commented lines, and no name servers below.   I've tried creating a cron.minutely - fixdns script, but it just isn't working.  Any ideas as to how I can lock down my resolv.conf so nothing can touch it?06:41
acetoxyYow! I made a apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and a reboot was required. After rebooting, I get this: http://fulhack.nu/~vigge/pub/P24-08-06_17.21.jpg06:41
acetoxyAny ideas?06:41
Fibertekyessir06:42
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Seveasompaul, damn you :06:42
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ompaul:)06:42
grout58how can I get all the ubuntu updates from the cli?06:42
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ompaulsudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade06:43
Nggrout58: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:43
AstralJava_relachs: Let's just start with; does X do what you want it to? Cause if it does, there's no need to change anything.06:43
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lupine_85acetoxy: erm, your filesystem looks hosed06:43
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rbmanjust to let everybody else know, profoX` ROCKS!  (he's a "grub god")....06:43
acetoxylupine_85: But why would it be like that after a dist-upgrade?06:43
natural20so i have some serious net issues: i can't ust FTP, I can't access log-in sites (like yahoo, ebay) i can't access my email.  help?06:43
acetoxylupine_85: Couldn't it just be /dev?06:44
lupine_85oh no, it's failing to mount your filesystems - so they're probably OK06:44
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NeXoRis there anywhere i can download an older version of the ISOs of Ubuntu?06:44
lupine_85possible06:44
profoX`rbman: thanks ;)06:44
acetoxyHehe06:44
lupine_85can you run 'MAKEDEV'?06:44
Fiberteknexor:try bittorrent06:44
rbmanno...thank YOU profoX` !06:44
NeXoRah good suggestion.. thanks :)06:44
Fibertek:)06:44
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lupine_85(you might want to boot up the live CD and do it from there)06:44
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acetoxyI'm not sure... I'm in Windows right now, since ubuntu doesn't work.06:44
lupine_85have you got a Ubuntu CD handy? live or install?06:45
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lupine_85and do you know what it installed...?06:45
profoX`rbman: you're welcome :) windows wanted to be drive #1 but map commands virtually switch it over again :)06:45
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acetoxyI've been thinking about making a clean install of ubuntu, so I think I will do that and copy all important files from the old filesystem06:45
acetoxylupine_85: No, I dont. I'm downloading it right now. Dapper Drake is installed06:46
lupine_85It's either /dev, or it's having problems initialising your IDE interface06:46
acetoxyHm, okay...06:47
Don_jrif I install ubuntu 5.02 can I update it later?06:47
Fibertekdirge:ive tried using gconf-editor to.. but it wont use the custom icon i set in it06:47
acetoxyLet's just hope that it will work with kubuntu. :)06:47
lupine_85will be fine, as you'll be in terminal :)06:47
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acetoxyYeah. :)06:47
acetoxyThanks. :)06:47
webguyin my cron job i have the following line:   php script.php >> script.log  -- this appends the new log infomration at the end of the file ... is there a way to instead append at the beginning of the file06:48
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lupine_85so /dev/sda5 is your "/" ?06:48
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fallingdutchmy usb-headset (labtec) beeps when i try using it with xmms and i get the error "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params", it is listed in lsusb and snd-usb-audio is loaded; it works with knoppix 5.0, arch is amd64. any ideas how to solve the problem? or any hints where i could get some more informations/people who could help me?06:50
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acetoxylupine_85: Yeah06:50
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ompaulthere ya go06:51
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Fibertekit only has launcher-objects not menu-objects so it wont use the icon i set it to06:51
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lupine_85ext2? ext3? reiserfs?06:52
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Trent__Hello everyone!06:52
lupine_85mind you, the problem is almost certainly the PCI error message06:52
Trent__I am currently using the LiveCD and I need help with partitions!06:52
eyequeuelupine_85, many small files?  more normal use?06:52
Fibertekwhats up trent06:52
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Fibertekare you formatting to install ?06:53
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wweaselI need gst-plugins-good and gst-plugins-base as a dependency for an app I am installing. They don't seem to be in Synaptic...06:53
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lupine_85if you just chose the defaults, then I "think" it'll be ext306:53
Fiberteklupine:yea06:53
Fibertek1 ext3 and 1 swap06:53
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lupine_85there's a small possibility that it's a coincidental hardware failure, I guess06:53
mehrdadHi, How do I configure ethernet on IEEE1394 connection?06:53
kling0nhow can i force uninstall a package even if the prereq script fails?06:53
eyequeuelupine_85, sorry, thoght you wree asking for suggestions.  agreed on the default btw06:53
Trent__I am a total noob and I have 1 Windows, and 2 Linux partitions on my computer. I want to delete the 2 previous Linux ones, and install a fresh Ubuntu.06:53
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Fibertekgo to custom partition mgr06:54
Fibertekat the installer06:54
virogenesisis it ok to update ubuntu i've enabled the xgl repos?06:54
lupine_85ah, np :)06:54
Trent__I am looking at the partition installer and I am totally confused.06:54
profoX`Trent: do you know which ones the linux partitions are?06:54
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Fibertekheh ok06:54
Fibertekdelete the extx and linux swap ones06:54
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eyequeuekling0n, dpkg --force-help06:54
chamohello06:54
Fibertekand do new ones06:54
TrentWhy's everyone asking me?06:54
TrentxD06:54
mehrdadHi, How do I configure IP over IEEE1394 connection?06:54
Trentuhmm06:54
Fibertek1 ext3 and 1 swap06:54
profoX`Trent__: do you know which ones the linux partitions are? ext3 / reiserfs / swap should he the linux ones06:54
profoX`Trent: lol wrong person06:54
eyequeuevirogenesis, ask there06:54
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eyequeue!xgl > virogenesis06:55
Fibertekanyone else have any ideas on my q ? change the ubuntu app menu icon ?06:55
Trentomg, Trent you froob06:55
TrentI'm gonna ghost you06:55
DanaGHmm, TCP/IP over 1394?06:55
DanaGBeats me.06:55
virogenesista06:55
BDerwenthey, i was wondering if there was a way to make the speakers on my laptop go to 11 so to speak, the volume has to be turned almost all the way up to hear much of anything06:55
profoX`Fibertek: somewhere in gconf-editor I think :P06:55
Fibertekyea i found it06:55
DanaGI know how to do it in XP, but not in Linux.06:55
Fibertekbut its a launcher-object06:55
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Trentah nvm, Hes got 2 __06:55
Fiberteknot a menu-object06:55
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Fibertekso it wont take06:55
DanaGOh, and the option is gone again in Vista.06:55
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ADminS!backup06:55
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi06:55
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Trent__Trent: omg someone with my name! Kewlness!06:56
mehrdadDanaG: I know i should use the eth1394 driver, but how to configure it as a network interface?06:56
TrentTrent__, Atleast you aren't some dude named Trent Cameron, he keeps taking my nick06:56
Trent>=(06:56
Fibertekmehr: 1394 tcp/ip ... ?06:56
Trentso I have to ghost him.06:56
TrentxD06:56
eyequeueADminS, i personally recommmend duplicity, but investigate for your own needs06:56
profoX`Trent: lol :D06:56
ompaulTrent__, can you change your nic please06:56
mehrdadfibertek: yes06:56
Fiberteky not just use ur nic06:56
kling0neyequeue: tried a dpkg --purge --force-all but still fails due to the preconfig scripts failing06:56
kling0nany suggestions?06:56
_relachsAfter i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx i cannot choose 1280*1024, but i need to set it up for my external tft...06:56
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ompaulTrent__,  so nobody thinks your the same person :)06:56
mehrdadfibertek: i don't have a working cable right now06:57
eyequeuekling0n, pre-rm you mean?06:57
Fibertekah06:57
kling0nyes06:57
Fibertekhrm06:57
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kling0neyequeue: yes06:57
profoX`Trent__: can you take a screenshot and put it on line / send through irc / if you are confused? or describe exactly what you see somewhere? you should remove any ext3 / reiserfs / swap.. partitions06:57
eyequeuekling0n, sec ...06:57
ADminSeyequeue: thx but i want to backup homeuser only06:57
ompaulLiveCDPartition, :)06:57
profoX`LiveCDPartition: ^ same06:57
LiveCDPartitionHow do I use the partition manager?06:57
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Fibertekmerhdad: what do u propose to hook the 1394 up to ... ? for connectivity?06:57
chamoI cannot get the fglrx driver to work with my ati card. anyone can help? the log says DRI initialization fail. But I have followed all install instruction.06:57
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fiskhi06:57
mehrdadFibertek: yes, using as LAN, just like you can do in XP06:57
LiveCDPartitionWhich partitions are Linux and how do I tell?06:58
lupine_85type 82 or 8306:58
Fibertekbut physically to what?06:58
fiskhow can i install enlightenment under gnome?06:58
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mehrdadFibertek: To another PC06:58
Fiberteko06:58
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Fibertekok06:58
eyequeuekling0n, /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.prerm06:58
merchCan anyone tell me why desktop (gnome) links to URL open in firefox regardless of preferences and /etc/alternatives?06:58
FibertekICS06:58
Fibertekgotcha06:58
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eyequeuekling0n, run the lines of it manually with sudo, then rm the file itself06:59
cdubyamerch, did you change it to anything else in Preferred Applications?06:59
Fibertekdoes it show it in the network panel as an available connection mehr?06:59
profoX`LiveCDPartition: can you take a screenshot and put it on line / send through irc / if you are confused? or describe exactly what you see somewhere? you should remove any ext3 / reiserfs / swap.. partitions06:59
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mehrdadFibertek: I know that I should use eth1394 kernel module, but I can't hook it up to make a net ethernet interface06:59
eyequeuekling0n, the the removal should work06:59
richiefriche-type we are getting him help :P linux__alien that is06:59
LiveCDPartitionokay06:59
profoX`LiveCDPartition: are there partitions with EXT3 / REISERFS or SWAP ? those are linux partitions06:59
DanaGI had a similar issue a few times ago.06:59
kling0neyequeue: got it06:59
wweaselIs there a key in the Terminal that will autocomplete a filename?06:59
kling0neyequeue: thanks06:59
Fibertekso its not in the network panel at all?06:59
profoX`LiveCDPartition: NTFS / FAT32 / VFAT = could be windows06:59
DanaGUnfortunately, I found no fix for it.06:59
mehrdadFibertek: no, I don't know how to make it show up06:59
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eyequeueADminS, i "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home/me" regularly07:00
DanaGEr, I knew there would BE a fix, but I didn't have a clue HOW>07:00
Fibertekcheck your device mgr.. is it in there OK?07:00
mehrdadyes07:00
merchcdubya: tried sensible-browser, gnome-www-browser (both point to swiftfox) and /usr/bin/swiftfox07:00
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kling0neyequeue:  thnx... worked07:00
e-typerichiefrich: does pppoe require dhcp on his ethernet interface?07:00
eyequeuekling0n, np ... if you find out what barfs in the prerm, consider filing a bug report too07:00
mehrdadof course there is, it works perfectly as a LAN connection in XP07:00
kling0neyequeue: im kinda stuck in the middle cause I upgraded to edgy... :)07:00
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fiskcan someone how has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???07:00
kling0neyequeue: my system is *VERY* non standard atrm :)07:00
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fiskcan someone who has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???07:01
eyequeuekling0n, ahh.  you do know about #ubuntu+1, right? :)07:01
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richiefriche-type no we are making him static and the  resolv.conf wont be replaced07:01
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meliaLiveCDPartition use qparted for patition hard disk it very easy07:01
javicashola07:02
kling0nyup07:02
cdubyamerch, have you tried any other app though....07:02
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ADminSis there any command line to take backup for /home/ ? or i have to use any tool doin it?07:02
kling0n:)07:02
bean-ohfisk, what about enlightenment?07:02
mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:02
owen_does anyone know of a program that can access ventrilo servers?07:02
profoX`why don't they put gparted inside the live cd installer melia ._. wouldn't that make more sense?07:02
taychouri-aI just finished compiling, and i did make install, how can i use the program now07:02
merchcdubya: epiphany... desktop url links still open in firefox07:02
eyequeueADminS, "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home/me" is my commandline method07:02
taychouri-aowen_: The Linux ventrilo is still in development man.07:02
mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:02
virogenesisADminS,  alot just make a tar07:02
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kling0neyequeue: wasnt aware that it would be this extensive though :) ive been running bleeding edge before (bsd, not ubuntu) but i guess there is more to it than i had been planning after... :) dpkg-reconfigure is my friends right now though07:03
taychouri-aowen_: Team speak works tho07:03
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eyequeueADminS, "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home" would grab all your users07:03
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owen_can you access a ventrilo server with team speak?07:03
merchcdubya: just switched to mozilla... still opens firefox07:03
meliai use with knoppix and it work07:03
taychouri-aowen_: Teamspeak is a whole different thing07:03
virogenesisADminS,  what are you planning on backing up to07:03
taychouri-aowen_: Its like a while different server and stuff07:03
eyequeuekling0n, it gets easier later in the development cycle, generally, but yes, it;s not for the faint-of-heart07:03
owen_err, i need a program that can access ventrilo servers07:04
mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:04
taychouri-aowen_: Its hard yo, http://ventrilo.com/download.php, you see it says development07:04
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kling0neyequeue: my main prob is, im much better at the prompt than in the desktop environment.... I have no idea what happened to my gnome :)07:04
profoX`taychouri-a: the linux ventrilo has been in development for 4 years or something07:04
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profoX`taychouri-a: they arent developping ventrilo for linux afaik07:04
taychouri-aprofoX`: I know thats what i am telling him07:04
profoX`taychouri-a: not the client07:04
eyequeuekling0n, yeah, i fing guis confusing as well07:05
profoX`taychouri-a: the say they do -- but they really don't07:05
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morenawenas07:05
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profoX`taychouri-a: oh..07:05
taychouri-aprofoX`: ohhh07:05
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mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:05
fdsdHey guys, I have spent months modifing the ubuntu livecd, basicly 50% of the init scripts, the kernel, graphics, everything has been changed, would I be able to consider it my own distro?07:05
kling0ni got me a nice xgl setup on the 6.06 release though :)07:05
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - yes, sure, why not?07:05
profoX`taychouri-a: my friend send them a mail once, and they replied: "nobody uses linux -- we aren't going to support it -- blabla"07:05
oiad_bla selber07:05
taychouri-aprofoX`:  I just compiled Gdesklets, and i did a make iinstall, but how do i use it now07:06
profoX`s/send/sent07:06
fiskcan someone who has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???07:06
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - that's cool; you have your own distro!07:06
taychouri-aprofoX`:  Rofl, thats funny. Linux is the best thing07:06
meliaprofox it in kde qparted07:06
fdsdLiveCDPartition, well I wasnt sure, I dont want to take all the credit, its totally based on ubuntu livecd07:06
fdsdLiveCDPartition, :)07:06
fdsdLiveCDPartition, its called Dx307:06
wweaselCould someone help please? "configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !" I looked in Synaptic, but I don't see any -dev packages for gstreamer. What do I need?07:06
profoX`taychouri-a: i dont know -- i never used gdesklets -- if you installed it, then it should be accessible somewhere now..07:06
taychouri-aprofoX`:  k07:06
kling0ntaychouri-a: start your session preferences editor and add gdesklets to yout startup programs07:07
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LiveCDPartitionfdsd - Ubuntu is totally based on Debian... you should think of a friendlier name of Dx3.... like Kitty Distro07:07
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InsideJobhey guys, is there any way to install the sources for my currently running stock kernel (2.6.15-26) on dapper?07:07
fdsdLiveCDPartition, it images failing drives, also copies User directories from Macintosh HDs to external drives..07:07
lupine_85linux-sources07:07
NgInsideJob: install the linux-source package07:07
kling0nInsideJob: sudo apt-get install linux-headers07:07
wweaselCould someone help please? "configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !" I looked in Synaptic, but I don't see any -dev packages for gstreamer. What do I need?07:07
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - do you have a site for your distro yet?07:07
lupine_85!linux-sources07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
lupine_85!linux-source07:07
ubotulinux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB07:07
eyequeueInsideJob, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1507:07
fdsdLiveCDPartition, yeah I do, but its not up right now07:07
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lupine_85then just unpack, make oldconfig, make menuconfig07:08
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kling0nnice name for the bot :)07:08
fdsdLiveCDPartition, im excited, I put alot of work into this07:08
Agrajagwweasel: apt-cache search gstreamer|grep dev07:08
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - ooh I still think you should make a new name instead of "Dx3"07:08
Agrajagwweasel: you'll find something in there I'm sure07:08
fdsdLiveCDPartition, it stands for Daryl's Disk Doctor07:08
kling0nInsideJob: or copy the existing config file from /boot07:08
Agrajagwweasel: if not, you need to enable more repositories07:08
profoX`Agrajag: I sent him a pm07:08
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boozaHi all07:08
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - call it "Pancakes"07:09
lupine_85make oldconfig does that automagically07:09
wweaselthanks Agrajag07:09
eyequeuelupine_85, no, mush better to use make-kpkg and not subvert te package management system07:09
LiveCDPartition:P07:09
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lupine_85assuming that it's not in /proc07:09
fdsdLiveCDPartition, mmm pancakes.. maybe.07:09
Luna7Holaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:09
kling0neyequeue: I think next time i will make me a separate install of the bleeding edge :) or maybe run it in qemu :)07:09
lupine_85eyequeue: never had much luck with make-kpkg07:09
eyequeue!kernel-package07:09
ubotukernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB07:09
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fdsdLiveCDPartition, it would be fun to call it something rediculus though07:09
boozahow can i change the resolution from my logitech webcam ?07:09
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kling0nbooza: did you try asking google?07:09
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profoX`Agrajag: and they should be in main, so no problem there07:09
boozayes no match :(07:09
profoX`(gstreamer dev packages)07:10
InsideJobeyequeue, where will that install the source?  /usr/src/linux?07:10
UKMattdoes anyone know what XGL is?07:10
lupine_85in /usr/src07:10
lupine_85as a tarball, IIRC07:10
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InsideJobkling0n, thanks...that;s a good idea07:10
lupine_85once you've untar'd it, it'll be in /usr/src/linux-source-(whatever)07:10
eyequeueInsideJob, no, /usr/src/   unpack the tarball in $HOME if you like, make-kpkg runs as user07:10
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wweaselprofoX`: When I am compiling something, which of the commands (./configure, make, make install) should I run as root?07:11
harisundyes, eyequeue is correct. Use the home directory itself. lupine_85 the method of extracting into /usr/src is no longer recommended07:11
eyequeueInsideJob, linus has deprecated /usr/src/linux btw07:11
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lupine_85bit silly of the tarball to automatically go there, then ;)07:11
InsideJobeyequeue, so when this is done installing, it puts the tarball where?07:11
LiveCDPartitionprofoX`: here's my screenshot (finally) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot.png07:11
harisundlupine_85 the tarball automatically goes there? hmmm.... I generally use -C when untarring anything anyway :)07:12
mrbleAnyone knows, where i can get a tutorial on UBuntu (I really like to learn about it, I already have it installed in my machine) ?07:12
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eyequeuelupine_85, you'd put it where?  /root?07:12
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eyequeueharisund, the linux-source-* are still oldmethod :)07:12
lupine_85no, i'd modify apt-get to allow package management to be done by normal users (within limits, of course)07:13
harisundyes eyequeue I am aware of that... I conveniently use the fakeroot and make-kpkg method .07:13
lupine_85bit like Gentoo07:13
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eyequeuelupine_85, apt-get -b source foo does work as user btw, try it :)07:13
LiveCDPartitionI need help with my partitions!07:14
Agrajagwweasel: just make install07:14
eyequeuelupine_85, you'll need sudo for the dpkg -i of course07:14
harisundwhat kind of help, LiveCDPartition?07:14
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lupine_85that's what I mean. whatever happened to ~/bin ?07:14
LiveCDPartitionharisund - look, which ones are Linux and which are Windows? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot.png  I want to delete all Linux and keep all Windows, then install a fresh Linux.07:14
eyequeuelupine_85, have it here ;)07:14
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Don_jrif I install ubuntu 5.02 can I upgrade it later?07:15
lupine_85some programs aren't appropriate to be installed system-wide; and it's a pity that apt-get doesn't realise that properly07:15
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AgrajagDon_jr: 5.02?07:15
harisundLiveCDPartition: I am having a look at your screenshot. From what I can understand you have your Windows installation on fat32 partitions ?07:15
eyequeueDon_jr, one release at a time upgrade is the recommendation, and yes07:15
AstralJavaDon_jr: There's 5.04 and 5.10, and yes you can.07:15
longwaveLiveCDPartition: fat32 is windows, ext3 and linux-swap is linux07:15
fiskomg07:15
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LiveCDPartitionharisund - I think so... but I'm not very savvy.07:15
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fiskno one who could help me with entlightenment?07:16
mrbleLiveCDPartition You can delete Linux boot loader, from Windows07:16
mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:16
Don_jrokay07:16
eyequeueDon_jr, so from 5.04 to 5.10, then to 6.06.107:16
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LiveCDPartitionlongwave - what is "Extended"?07:16
harisundLiveCDPartition: it's a way to create more than 4 paritions on your system.07:16
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longwaveLiveCDPartition: "extended" is just a way of having more than four partitions, it is a container that includes hda5-7 in your case07:16
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LiveCDPartitionfdsd - is there any way I can contact you in the future to further discuss your new and exciting distro?07:16
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Don_jrI'm having trouble with the live CD on 6.06, but I'm burning the alternate now07:16
InsideJobfisk, #enlightenment07:16
fdsdLiveCDPartition, sure07:17
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Don_jrand I"m downloading 5.04 aswell, I'll get one of them to work damn it! lol07:17
fdsdLiveCDPartition, dcstimm@gmail.com07:17
LiveCDPartitionlongwave, harisund - so do I delete Extended or keep it if I want to erase all Linux and keep all Windows?07:17
LiveCDPartitionthanks very much fdsd07:17
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eyequeueDon_jr, lvecd 6.06 was bad, hence 6.06.1 ... but alternate works for either07:17
diegohey i keep getting this funny blue screen (sod?) at start up that says that X couldn't start... the error seems to be "no devices found" or smth like that? by the way, i've checked X.org's FAQ and followed all steps there but nothing seems to fix this...07:17
longwaveLiveCDPartition: you will need to keep extended as hda5 is a windows partition that is in your extended partition07:17
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harisundLiveCDPartition: there seems to be a fat partition in your extended. Deleting extended will delete that.07:17
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Don_jrI believe I've got 6.06.1 I just downloaded it yesterday07:18
meliaLiveCDPartition if you delete de boot the windows no work07:18
harisundlongwave in that screenshot what does '!' mean behind the 2 fat partitions?07:18
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Don_jrit keeps hangng at different spots each time...so I'm going to try alternate and see if it works07:18
LiveCDPartitionk thanks07:18
NimweiIs there a source I need to add to my list to be able to get Limewire? I've done an apt-cache search limewire and it returns nothing, even after an apt-get update07:18
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Don_jrI just pray my wireless card will be accepted by it07:18
fdsdLiveCDPartition, its cool, because Macintosh Harddrives when they start to fail they cant mount on a mac, but with my cd I force those harddrives to mount and I can backup all the user data, or the disk has an option to image the failing drive with dd_rescue07:18
eyequeueDon_jr, i always felt i had more control with alternate07:18
diegoNimwei, limewire is written in java, just download the source from the page07:18
mehrdadHow do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?07:18
longwaveharisund: sorry i dont know, maybe it means that the partitions have been modified in that instance? the /!\ symbol usually means "warning" somehow07:18
Don_jrI tried for almost 5 ours yesterday to get ubuntu installed, and I'm on 3 hours so far today, I'm not giving up till I get it07:19
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eyequeuemehrdad, try "man 5 interfaces"07:19
diegohey i keep getting this funny blue screen (sod?) at start up that says that X couldn't start... the error seems to be "no devices found" or smth like that? i've checked X.org's FAQ and followed all steps there but nothing seems to fix this...07:19
harisundmehrdad what do you mean define a new interface? Did you plug in a nic and it does not work or something? Or do you want to create an alias for an existing one?07:19
Don_jrI know nothing about nix systems, this is my first install of one07:19
Don_jrand the help here as been great in fixin me up07:19
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - woah that's cool! you could... be rich... or famous... or really nice07:19
eyequeue!xorgbug > diego07:19
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - is it going to be free?07:20
bean-ohdiego, upgrade your xorg-server-core07:20
diegohow?07:20
fdsdLiveCDPartition, its for work, I come accross alot of failing drives, and other techs I work with have no idea what to do when the drive isnt mounting07:20
fdsdLiveCDPartition, yeah07:20
Nimweidiego:  right on. is there a specific location I should extract and build the source from?07:20
mehrdadactually I want to use IEEE1394 as a network connection07:20
Don_jrCan anyone here confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card for laptops will work wiht ubuntu?07:20
diegoNimwei, just google limewire, and click "i won't use this to steal" ...like if..:P07:21
mehrdadbut it doesn't show up in network interfaces07:21
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Nimweidiego: I've got the source from limewire.org :P It's open source. Just don't know where to compileit =P07:21
eyequeue!supportedhardware07:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supportedhardware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
trappisthow do you connect to a fresh install of mysql5 on ubuntu?07:21
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diegooh, it does not compile, its written in java07:21
harisundtrappist fresh install? You could use the command line, or the GUI if you have instaled something like mysql-admin07:22
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diegojust decompress it (spelling?) and find a *.sh file and run it07:22
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trappistharisund: I know, I mean what username/password07:22
NimweiGotcha, diego.07:22
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harisundtrappist 'mysql -u root -p' and then when it asks for a password enter nothing (since by default it comes with none)07:22
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NimweiThere's a menu editor built into ubuntu correct? I wanna throw it into Apps->Internet heh07:22
profoX`Nimwei: alacarte menu editor07:22
harisundtrappist oh ... default user: 'root' default password: nothing. This is the administrator for MySql (shouldn't be confused with regular Linux root)07:22
chameleontrying to watch dvd picture sudenly becomes garbled-vertical lines. any ideas, guys?07:22
profoX`Nimwei: accesories -> alacarte07:22
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diegoyes, thats the one07:22
profoX`Nimwei: or type in terminal "alacarte"07:22
trappistharisund: tried that, access denied for root@localhost07:22
NimweiprofoX`: Thansk.07:22
NimweiThanks too.07:23
profoX`Nimwei: np07:23
mehrdadI want to add IEEE1394 connection as a network interface, how should I do it?07:23
Nimweidiego: thanks as well.07:23
harisundtrappist hmmm... are you sure fresh install and no modifications have been made?07:23
diegofrom there, you have to call that *.sh i said07:23
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eyequeuemehrdad, did you read the man page?07:23
cdcrenatofilho, you there?07:23
trappistharisund: I just now installed it and I'm trying to connect to create a database07:23
harisundtrappist if you installed some other software like phpMyAdmin or something . you might have modified it without realizing i07:23
mehrdadeyequeue: can't find interfaces in section 507:23
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harisundtrappist then perhaps we should ensure that mysql is running. What is the output of 'sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart' ?07:24
eyequeuemehrdad, try "man 5 interface"  my error, sorry07:24
LiveCDPartitionharisund, longwave: just so I don't screw anything up... is this good?  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot-1.png07:24
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - good for you, keeping it free. ^_^07:24
trappistharisund: I'm gonna apt-get remove --purge and reinstall07:24
mehrdadeyequeue: same error07:24
harisundtrappist you could try that. But try my command first.07:24
fdsdLiveCDPartition, keep it free, charge for support;-)07:24
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harisundmehrdad just try man interfaces07:24
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trappistharisund: too late :)07:25
harisundtrappist, ok never mind :)07:25
trappistharisund: but, it started when I installed it with no error output, if that's what you were looking for07:25
eyequeuemehrdad, "man 5 interfaces"  after all07:25
diegook, so upgrading X should fix this?07:25
mehrdadharisund: i did it but it doesn't work. can u tell me how to do it here?07:25
eyequeue!info ifupdown07:25
ubotuifupdown: high level tools to configure network interfaces. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.7ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB07:25
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harisundtrappist hmmm... ok tell me what happens after you purge and reinstall. By the way, what packages are you purging and reinstalling ?07:26
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - heh, heh, heh, good plan. Are you making free guides/a wiki though? And an IRC channel?07:26
mehrdadeyequeue: it doesn't get listed in ifconfig07:26
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eyequeuemehrdad, "man 5 interfaces"  after all07:26
trappistharisund: mysql-server and mysql-server-5.007:26
fdsdLiveCDPartition, just a wiki07:26
eyequeuemehrdad, sudo apt-get install ifupdown07:26
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - ahh, good man!07:26
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eyequeuemehrdad, i thought it was always installed, but ... that's allapernly missing from your system07:26
fdsdLiveCDPartition, this is intended for people that have never used linux, so I made it feel like Disk warrior instead of linux07:27
harisundtrappist I am not sure ... I only have mysql-server-5.0 installed ... maybe there is a conflict between both mysql-server and mysql-server-5.0 ?07:27
sdferfxHi! I installed my system by chroot so the configuration stuff was never run. I did most of it by hand but it still isn't working exactly right, and I was wondering if I could run the installer and just have it configure the system? I really need to do this.07:27
LiveCDPartitionfdsd - oooh. Wait. No IRC channel?07:27
sdferfxI try ubiquity but it won't do a dirty install07:27
trappistharisund: mysql-server is a metapackage that provides mysql-server-5.007:27
fdsdLiveCDPartition, I dont think it will be that popular, and the users this is intended for probably wont know what irc is07:27
harisundtrappist ah ok . very well then L07:28
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NimweiUgh, I can't get it to work :|07:28
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Don_jrwill a netgear WG511 run on ubuntu?07:28
InsideJobok..apt-get install liux-source-2.6.15 finished....where is it actually installed?07:28
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LiveCDPartitionfdsd - have I got this right? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot-1.png (I am trying to remove Linux and keep Windows so I can make a fresh Ubuntu install)07:29
trappistInsideJob: /usr/src07:29
InsideJobnm07:29
InsideJobi found it07:29
InsideJobthanks07:29
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NimweiUbuntu operates via debian right?07:29
diegoexcuse the noob question, what is apt-cache for?07:29
fdsdLiveCDPartition, it doesnt do that, it just copies the data from the partitions07:29
trappistNimwei: "operates via"?07:29
diegoNimwei, ubuntu is based on Debian07:29
diegoNimwei, dunno what you mean bye operates via07:30
trappistdiego: for example, apt-cache show vim or apt-cache policy eterm07:30
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meliadownload and compile mysql5 from mysql.com07:30
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diegotrappist, trying that...07:30
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NimweiThat's what I meant. I'm a tool.07:30
LiveCDPartitionkk cya all on the other side07:30
NimweiI'm new to linux so I honestly had no idea what debian was, but I figured a '.deb" file was associated with it.07:30
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Gun_Smokeexit07:31
trappistNimwei: we use debian's package management system, which uses .deb files07:31
natural20any idea why i can't transfer files with nautilus?  the server info is all correct.07:31
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trappistharisund: also have to reinstall mysql-common since I rm -rf'ed /etc/mysql07:32
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diegotrappist, so apt-cache shows some info on packages?07:32
LiveCDPartitionDarn I hit another problem!07:32
harisundtrappist lol...07:32
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trappistdiego: man apt-cache for more info07:32
diegotrappist, rite, thanks07:32
LiveCDPartitionWhat am I supposed to do when installing "Mount Points"?07:32
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melia<trappist> ok install the mysql 4.1 and this it work from packehes manager07:33
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cevap_hi07:33
LiveCDPartitionCan anyone help me with preparing mount points?07:33
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trappistharisund: apt-get install --reinstall didn't recreate /etc/mysql/my.cnf - do you happen to have an unmodified version of that file that I could borrow?07:34
harisundone minute trappist07:34
Nimweidiego: One last question - I've got java 1.4.2 installed according to java -version, but when I go to run Limewire it says "No java exec found in /opt" hierachy..or /usr/lib, or /usr/java07:34
i3dmastertrappist: try --purge07:34
MystaMaxMy computer is telling me I have updates, so I click the orange icon on the panel, and then select install. The computer then states, "Building dependencies tree". But after that nothing happens, whats going on?07:34
Trae!xgl07:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:34
trappisti3dmaster: I tried to apt-get remove --purge on mysql-common but it wants to take like 30 other packages with it07:35
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harisundthat bad huh trappist?07:35
harisundtrappist I could give you my my.cnf but I doubt if that alone will solve all your problems.. I am sure there are bound to be other broken stuff as well07:35
i3dmastertrappist: you can write them down and reinstall those back07:35
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i3dmasteror try dpkg -r07:36
LiveCDPartitionharisund, how to I do the Prepare Mount Points thing?07:36
trappisti3dmaster: yeah but I want to avoid that if possible07:36
fdsdDoes anyone know how I can go about finding what package includes mkfs.hfsplus?07:36
i3dmasterhowever, somehow you'd have to live with it since apt tries to handle dependencies for you07:36
NimweiOk - I've got java 1.4.2 installed according to java -version, but when I go to run Limewire it says "No java exec found in /opt" hierachy..or /usr/lib, or /usr/java07:36
trappistfdsd: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search mkfs.hfsplus07:36
harisundLiveCDPartition: prepare the mount points thing? Easiest would be the allocate the biggest partition for '/' mount point and leave some small space for swap, around equal to however much RAM  you have.07:36
fdsdtrappist, thanks07:37
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trappisti3dmaster: I don't *want* to uninstall the package.  I just need /etc/mysql/my.cnf and --reinstall didn't create it.07:37
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bluefox83ok, i have a problem, what is the grub error 2?07:37
Don_jryay alternate install CD is burnt07:37
LiveCDPartitionokay harisund - when it asks to reformat, should I?07:37
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harisundprobably have to LiveCDPartition07:38
LiveCDPartitionthanks harisund07:38
LiveCDPartitionill remember you07:38
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ardchoilleYikes, the bots went on break07:38
diegonimwei, istall jave in /usr/java07:38
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diegook, xorgfix doesnt fix my problem...07:39
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xored_how to set 2 input devices ( mouse / touchpad ) under xorg 7.x07:39
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NimweiI did an apt-get of sunjava5-jre ..the stupid thing should have configured itself there ;)07:39
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Dr_WillisNimwei,  it dont.07:39
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Dr_Willistheres the update-alternatives that you need to run I think07:40
NimweiOk, may I ask how to configure it specifically?07:40
Jamminpotatohow big is the average ubuntu installation in gigs?07:40
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diegoNimwei, download java from sun's web and istall urself in /usr/java07:40
manmadhahow to do CG programs in linux?07:40
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bluefox83hey, anyone familiar with grub errors?07:40
Nimweidiego thnanks07:40
Jamminpotatoon average how big is a ubuntu installation?07:40
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trappistdiego: that's not the right solution07:40
cjonesexit07:40
manmadhacc does not supporting graphics.h why??07:40
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diegono?07:40
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bean-ohbluefox83, what is the error?07:41
trappistNimwei: sudo update-alternatives --config java07:41
Jamminpotatoor better yet will 15 gigs be sufcient for a ubuntu install?07:41
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trappistJamminpotato: yes07:41
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Jamminpotatothanks trappist07:41
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diegohow to fix my xorg problem? i'm still getting this "no screens found"07:41
Jamminpotatotrappist: how big do you recommened the swap to be?07:41
GameOver69i have a silly question .... i dont have a boot splash any more when ubuntu is loading... but i know i have the proper files installed07:42
GameOver69anyway to turn it back on?07:42
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manmadhaharisund_, he u know how to do graphics programs in linux.....My cc compiler does not supporting graphis...why?07:42
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Jamminpotatowhat do people recommend for a swap size, 1gig 2 gig? how much?07:42
melia<Jamminpotato> the double of you ram07:42
Jamminpotatook07:42
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trappistJamminpotato: depends on how much ram you have07:42
Nimweitrappist, diego, thanks07:43
Jamminpotatomelia: if i expect to add more ram at some point in the future should i anticpate that or just go with my current?07:43
diegoNimwei, np07:43
i3dmastermelia: thats not necessary anymore07:43
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trappistJamminpotato: how much ram do you have07:43
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Jamminpotatotrappist: now i have 1 gig though i might get upto 1.5 or 2 at somepoint in the not to distant future07:43
trappistjust get a 1 gig swap - any more than that is a little silly07:44
hellokthuluHey -- anyone have Wine installed?  The version (0.9.9) in Synaptic is pretty old...07:44
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longwave!wine07:44
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:44
longwaveinstructions for a newer wine are at that URL07:44
ubuntu_how do you set a home page in lynx?07:44
hellokthuluExcellent, thanks!07:44
i3dmastertrappist: 1 g is even too much if it is just for a normal usage laptop or desktop07:45
Jamminpotatotrappist: one more question, should the swap be at the end of the drive or anywhere in particular or does it matter07:45
trappisti3dmaster: maybe, but it's definitely not too little07:45
cello_raspreally weird crap just happened. apt-get breaks with the http method driver not found (apt.conf is there and unmolested) and a program folder (nicotine) in /opt is gone07:45
trappistJamminpotato: you'll get the best performance if it's at the beginning of the drive, so the head doesn't have to move very far to get to it07:46
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Fibertekheres a good one for ya'll..07:46
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Fibertekany1 know why.. ill use mednafen as my example..07:46
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Fibertekthe package istaller says libc6 is not satisfiable?07:46
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i3dmastertrappist: current kernel has a much better memory management subsystem than before. normally, if you have 1g mem, 512m is big enough unless you are heavily use it for building systems07:46
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eternalswddoes anyone know if the firefox included in ubuntu is standard?07:47
Weretoywtf is this07:47
Fiberteketernal: yes07:47
ubuntu_i am on the live cd and i didnt mean to but restarted x11 now i need the password for ubuntu anybody know i t?07:47
i3dmastersomeone else even suggested turn swappniess off07:47
trappistubuntu_: exprt WWW_HOME=http://www.google.com07:47
Weretoyfags07:47
trappistubuntu_: there is none07:47
Fibertekjust hit enter07:47
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ubuntu_thanks trappist ill try it07:47
Fibertekany1? not satisfiable libc6 in pkg installer ?07:48
bluefox83i'm running the ubuntu live cd, and i'm having serious issues mounting my ext2 and ext3 partitions :(07:48
Jamminpotatotrappist: i lied, i ahve one more ?.... if im dual booting windows with ubuntu will windows have to be the first partition?07:48
ubuntu_trappist i was in the middel of install will that affect it ?07:48
trappistubuntu_: no07:48
i3dmasterJamminpotato: of course not07:48
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hellokthulubluefox83: how are you mounting them?07:48
trappistJamminpotato: depends on the version of windows07:49
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Jamminpotatotrappist: winXP07:49
trappistwinxp doesn't have to be on the first partition07:49
Jamminpotatok thx07:49
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trappistJamminpotato: but it's a lot easier to install linux *after* installing windows07:49
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ubuntu_trappist i had to use the gui to add the repositorys for bitchx how do i do it in console07:49
bluefox83hellokthulu: i've tried the standard sudo mount /dev/hda1 /d1 and the "places->computer" and then selecting the drives and mounting07:49
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ubuntu_trappist sorry i am a newb to linux07:50
prattmichello07:50
trappistubuntu_: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:50
Jamminpotatotrappist: what im planning on doing is copying all the data form my win install (its just the win stuff prog files and data is on a different drive) to a partition on my new hdd07:50
Jamminpotatoso its not really an install perse07:50
prattmicI have a problem07:50
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bluefox83for some reason the permissions on both partitions allow for reading only..and i can't mount the dang things to read them...07:50
trappistJamminpotato: yeah, that won't run :)07:50
hellokthulubluefox83: You may have to give 'sudo mount' the filesystem type, e.g. '--type=ext3' (I'm not actually on my linux box right now, ask the man page)07:50
Jamminpotatotrappist: ?how so?07:50
prattmicI just installed ubuntu and now I want to install IEs4linux07:51
bluefox83hellokthulu: tried that, didn't work either07:51
trappistJamminpotato: windows (and linux for that matter) requires more than a pile of files to boot07:51
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hellokthulubluefox83: Can you edit /etc/fstab ?07:51
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prattmicwhen I go to the terminal to install wine and type the command it asks for my password, yet it won't let me type anything07:51
bluefox83hellokthulu: and when i try to boot from teh drives, grub gives me "grub error 2" and just sits there with no other output07:51
Jamminpotatotrappist: what if i copy the entire partition over, and then set it up in grub?07:52
ephesiustrappist: couldnt he have grub boot his xp install07:52
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bluefox83*the07:52
hellokthulubluefox83: Okay, I'm clueless here, sorry :-(07:52
scifihi guys, would anyone be willing to talk me thru how to set-up a simple database in ubuntu ?07:52
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ubuntu_trappist so when it says uncomment that means delete the "##" right ?07:52
prattmichello?07:52
trappistJamminpotato: won't work.  you need to *install* xp where you want it to be, then copy your files.07:52
prattmiccan someone help me?07:52
trappistubuntu_: yep07:52
ubuntu_trappist thank you07:52
hellokthuluprattmic: Are you sure you CAN'T type anything, or do you just not see any characters echoed?07:52
petar12Hi guys, I came in here yesterday asking about which file system to use for my external hard drive.  I went with ext3 and everything works fine so far.  I have copied some files to it using windows xp, but I have just one question.  The hard drive has a capacity of 372.6GB.  However, it is telling me that only 343.6GB is free.  I do have some files on there which take up about 4.5GB.  Can someone tell me why it doesn't show 372.6GB free?07:53
petar12Is that from formatting?07:53
Jamminpotatotrappist: hmmm, so i install xp where i want it then just copy all my files over the xp install?07:53
trappistprattmic: password prompts don't echo anything in the console - just type your password and hit enter.07:53
ubuntu_trappist do  you know of a way to streem music in console?07:53
prattmicI don't see anything and the cursor stays in the same spto07:53
prattmicspot07:53
petar12I am aware that even though it is a 400gb hard drive, I will not see 400gb because of the way they calculate it.07:53
trappistJamminpotato: copy the files you want onto the same partition of the xp install - I do NOT recommend copying files OVER the new xp install.07:53
hellokthuluwhat trappist said. just type it in and hit return07:53
prattmicI can toye the command, just not my password07:53
ephesiusprattmic: its supposed to so that know one can see your password characters still go in07:53
prattmicok07:53
trappistubuntu_: sudo apt-get install mpg321; mpg321 foo.mp307:54
prattmicok thank you07:54
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Jamminpotatotrappist: what about the registry and all the settings stuff that i want to preserve?07:54
trappistJamminpotato: can't do it07:54
Jamminpotatotrappist: theres no way to move a winXP install from one hdd to another?07:54
trappistJamminpotato: but we're getting awfully far into how to move windows to another drive, for a channel called #ubuntu07:54
ubuntu_trappist how do i exit out of the sources.list07:54
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trappistJamminpotato: you would have to image the drive07:55
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trappistubuntu_: erm, it depends on what editor sudoedit decided to use.  are there instructions at the bottom of the screen?07:55
Fibertekanyone? libc6 not satisfiable .. ?07:55
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Jamminpotatotrappist: the whole drive or the partition? and can a ubuntu live cd image a drive or do i need to set up norton ghost or somethign like that?07:55
danf_1979Is there any key combination to take a screenshot?07:55
ubuntu_it says ^x but that just types in the editer07:55
trappistFibertek: try glibc07:55
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ubuntu_trappist and i ve tryed ctrl c07:56
ephesiusubuntu_: press the control key and x07:56
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trappistJamminpotato: the whole drive, if you want it to be bootable07:56
ubuntu_ephesius thank you07:56
nickd2I am trying to install unbuntu server and it hangs at 69% configuring ubuntu-minimal. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?07:56
ephesiusubuntu_: but press ctrl+o first to write07:56
trappistubuntu_: ^x means ctrl-x07:56
gnomefreakubuntu_: the ^ is the ctrl key so you would hit ctrl+x07:56
trappistbut, what ephesius said07:56
Jamminpotatotrappist: =/ cause i want to move the one 8gig partition off my old 20gig hdd onto an 8gig partition onto my new 250gig hdd07:56
Jamminpotatothen i want to dual boot ubuntu iwth it07:57
gnomefreakctrl+o than enter than ctrl+x07:57
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hellokthulupetar12: This is ancient Unix knowledge (I'm a dinosaur :-) ) but some amount of the disk is held unused, that only 'root' processes can use.  This is so that if you fill the drive, the system can still run.07:57
lacostepfKeys F11, F12 Home and End don't work on my system, under X or console (showkeys shows nothing). Any idea why ?07:57
Fibertekinstalling it now trappist07:57
trappistJamminpotato: I think that can be done with imaging, but I can't help you with it07:57
Jamminpotatook07:57
scifihi guys, would anyone be willing to talk me thru how to set-up a simple database in ubuntu ?07:57
Jamminpotatothanks trappist07:57
trappisthellokthulu: where did you come up with that?  that's false07:58
ubuntu_gneomefreak thanks07:58
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Miekscifi: what kind of database?07:58
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hellokthulutrappist: It was true in Berkley 4.1 and 4.2.  I SAID I was a dinosaur :-)07:58
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scifiMiek: a movie database, perhaps in a mysql type form ?07:59
Fibertektrappist: getting the same error07:59
ezenuhow do I run a .jnlp -- java web start -- program via the command line?07:59
ubuntu_trappist ok so i apt-got the mpeg321 then typed mpeg321 foo.mp3 right ?07:59
bluefox83ok, i figured out why i couldn't mount my primary partition..i'm going to be pissed off if i have to do what i did to the primary one to get the secondary one working...07:59
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petar12hellokthulu: 20GB seems a bit much.  Is there any way to override this since the drive is only being used for storage?07:59
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danf_1979Is there any key combination to take a screenshot? Please :(08:00
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ezenuah, javaws08:00
trappistpetar12: that's filesystem overhead.  on ext3, a 5000000 byte file will probably occupy more than 5000000 bytes on the filesystem, because of the way the filesystem allocates blocks to files08:00
trappistubuntu_: assuming you have a foo.mp308:00
hellokthulupetar12: Evidently I'm wrong about that one -- sorry.  Thanks trappist08:00
trappistFibertek: what error08:00
Fiberteklibc6 not satisfiable08:00
trappisthellokthulu: no problem :)08:00
Fibertekin debi pkg installer08:00
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trappistFibertek: oh.  you get that when you do what, and what else does it say08:01
ubuntu_trappist lol but i want to get a last.fm stream?08:01
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hellokthulupetar12: What percentage have you lost?08:01
ephesiusdanf_1979: does ctrl + print scrn work?08:01
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Fibertekjust that... error: dependency libc6 is not satisfiable08:01
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trappistubuntu_: oh, use mplayer then08:01
Fibertekits a download not an apt-get08:01
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trappistubuntu_: as in, mplayer http://url.for/the.stream08:02
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ubuntu_trappist will mplayer run in console?08:02
trappistFibertek: that's why.  don't use non-ubuntu packages.08:02
petar12Well the capacity is 372.6GB.  Free space was 348GB before I added anything to the drive.08:02
trappistubuntu_: yep08:02
danf_1979ephesius, nope08:02
scificould anyone help me set-up a simple movie database in ubuntu or suggest a simple database app. to use (other than openoffice base)08:02
nickd2is there a small netinstall cd for ubuntu like for debian?08:02
Fibertekoo ok :) wrong version ?08:02
trappistscifi: mysql, postgres, sqlite08:02
izirkuis therea repo for Oracle 10g standard ed? this is for XE only (http://oss.oracle.com/debian)08:02
trappistFibertek: what are you trying to install.08:03
Fibertekmednafen08:03
jcanfieldI'm curious...I've been reading many of planets lately, particulary planet ubuntu  and I'm noticing more and more traffic related to kubuntu.  Does anyone know the current downlaod ratio of ubuntu/kubuntu?08:03
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scifitrappist: which out of those would you say it the easiest to get to grips with ?08:03
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frfxis there a command or a way to see which packages are installed on your ubuntu system?08:03
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trappistscifi: probably sqlite08:03
Fibertekfrfx .. look in synaptic under installed category08:03
trappistfrfx: dpkg -l08:03
ubuntu_trappist also if i have flash installed will i be able to run pandora.com from lynx08:03
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scifitrappist: k im having a look at it now08:04
trappistunreal_: I don't know what pandora.com is, but you can't view flash animations in a console08:04
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frfxtrappist+fibertek: thanks08:04
petar12So that seems to be about 6.5% lost08:04
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ubuntu_trappist its like last.fm but the player is flash at the url08:04
trappistpetar12: it's perfectly normal to lose disk space to filesystem overhead.  even before you add files, ext3 reserves a portion of the space for its journal.08:05
trappistubuntu_: yeah you won't be able to do that08:05
Fiberteko i see08:05
Fibertekthey dropped the libc6 version for dapper08:05
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petar12trappist: Would ext2 consume less space?08:05
ubuntu_trappist ok i am just trying to learn how to work form console but i have to have music lol :)08:05
trappistpetar12: yes, because it's not journaled, but I don't recommend it08:06
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|thunderUbugtu, you can play music from console with mplayer08:06
trappistpetar12: reiserfs is journaled and uses space more efficiently08:06
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Jamminpotatois it possible to boot an os from an extended partition?08:06
owen_i just installed the ntp package, how do i activate it?08:06
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|thunderwhoops, that was for ubuntu_08:07
trappistowen_: sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start08:07
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LiteWaitdapper/xubuntu/proxim orinoco gold... insert card.... dmesg displays "cs: unable to map card memory" (card works fine with WinBlows), any hints?08:07
oiad_selber emo08:07
brucehhow would I do ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew for ubuntu?08:07
petar12trappist: Do you believe I should reformat it to reiserfs to see how much that uses?  And do you think I need journalling as this will only be used for storage?08:07
ubuntu_i tryed to apt-get install mplayer but it said it has no installation canadate ?08:07
trappistbruceh: sudo dhclient08:07
brucehi'm at terminal and can't figure out what commands to type in08:07
trappistpetar12: it's honestly not going to make a noticeable difference, in all likelihood08:08
InsideJobbruceh, 'man ifconfig'08:08
|thunderbruceh, to do what ?08:08
AlienXis it safe to update the xorg-core package? I heard from a friend that it was causing problems on some systems08:08
brucehwanna renew ip etc08:09
trappistAlienX: the broken one has been reverted.  it's safe now.08:09
AlienXtrappist, cheers08:09
scifitrappist: is there a simple sql package in synaptic i could install ?08:09
trappistbruceh: did you see what I said08:09
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trappistscifi: what do you mean by simple sql08:09
|thunderbruceh, try           ifup lan0       and         ifdown wlan008:09
scifitrappist: like sqlite08:10
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trappistscifi: yes. sqlite08:10
scifitrappist: lol ok i'll try it out ^^08:10
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|thunderbruceh, replace wlan0 with your interface08:10
zenitLiteWait: I wouldn't worry about the message. It's a good card, it should work if you have pcmcia-cs installed (required for 16-bits pcmcia)08:11
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owen_it doesnt matter what server i choose for it to update my time right?08:11
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anders339hello evreybodies!08:11
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owen_it will still make it convert to my time zone?08:11
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|thunderowen_, yep. all times in GMT08:11
anders339this problem i have..08:11
anders339..that i can't run 3d games at a decent FPS08:11
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anders339it runs as before i installed the ati drivers..08:12
nox-HandHey08:12
BOBSONATORDoes anyone here use KISMET/ AIRCRACK?08:12
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|thunderanders339, anders339 did you change xorg.xonf to reflect the atidriver ?08:12
anders339how do i make.. ehhrr.. the games playable?08:12
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nox-HandWhat is the command for configuring Xorg on the Ubuntu Livecd?08:12
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anders339yeah, i think.08:12
anders339unless it has been change by something , again..08:13
bean-ohanders339, you probably need to isntall the driver for your video card08:13
|thundernox-Hand, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:13
michaels__I need a newb-safe way to do a simple editon an AVI video: a 90-degree flip08:13
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diegohey, i keep getting this error msg at startup "no screen found", it's an erorr from xorg and xorgfix doesn't help..08:13
anders339fglrx on all the "devices" with ati..08:13
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nox-Hand|thunder: Thats not the guided one o_O Oh, wait, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver08:13
scifitrappist: which sqlite package do i need to install ?08:14
ubuntu_i tryed to apt-get install mplayer but it said it has no installation canadate ?08:14
bean-ohdiego, you can downgrade your xorg-server-core manually08:14
diegodowngrade?08:14
diegowhy should i do that?08:14
GUIPEnguin_does the normal installation cd for Ubuntu linux, start with a live cd environment..or did I download the wrong cd?08:14
trappistscifi: sqlite308:14
|thundermichaels__, you can do that with mplayer/mencoder08:14
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pradeep_GUIPEnguin_, you have the right one08:14
diegoi have just upgraded it08:14
ephesiusubuntu_: do and apt-cache search mplayer to find the exact name of the mplayer package you need08:14
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|thunderubuntu_ you need to enablu universal repos08:14
anders339i could try to reinstall it, but how do i uninstall though? Synaptic?08:14
michaels__how |thunder?08:15
anders339oh yes, you do.08:15
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InsideJobhey guys08:15
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TheGateKeeperGUIPEnguin_: yep, there is that one an the alternative cd that uses a text installer08:15
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ubuntu_i have universal repos i needed them so i could run bitchx08:15
manmadhaany one know the graphic programs using c??08:15
|thundermichaels__, you'll have to look through the manual.  use 'man mencoder'08:16
diego.......someone?!08:16
TheGateKeeperanders339: mark it for removal08:16
oiad_selber emo08:16
michaels__thanks |thunder08:16
anders339yeah, i know that.08:16
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diegomanmadha, google gtk+ and glade08:16
anders339gotta find the packages first then.08:16
trappistubuntu_: it gave you a list of packages.  choose the one for your platform.08:16
ubuntu_ephesius thanks so far that is working08:16
bean-ohdiego, downgrade, i meant to before the update. 10.2 is the version before.08:16
|thunderdiego, hang a sec.08:16
stepshi there, anyone using Ekiga VOIP?08:16
azurealhi; firefox sometimes freezes after it plays a trailer...could someone who has all the plugins working and not-crashing pastebin their /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?08:16
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ephesiusubuntu_: is it installing?08:17
diegobtw, the log file is here, http://sh.nu/p/288208:17
diegothe error appears at the end lines08:17
scifitrappist: is there a gui-front end i could install ?08:17
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|thunderwhat was the link to that xorg bug fix ?08:17
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ubuntu_ephesius it gives me options for kmpplayer winch is for kde but i just want to run it in console08:18
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petar12Well I think I will keep the ext3 fs since reiserfs doesn't have write support in windows08:18
trappistscifi: not that I know of, but if you go with mysql instead there's mysql-admin08:18
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diego|thunder, haging a sec....08:18
owen_does anyone know of a good music manager - arranges your music by different variables? e.g date created, length, genre08:18
brucehthanks for the help ealier. be back later going to lunch. it's still not connecting to web08:18
|thunderHoly Shit. 32-Bit Vista is NOT going to be able to play Blu-Ray and HD-DVD08:18
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trappistowen_: amarok08:19
diegoowen_, mysql08:19
ephesiusubuntu_: are you only on the command line? if you have a gui try searching in synaptic08:19
|thunderdiego, there was a link here that has the solution.08:19
petar12| thunder: Why not?08:19
profoX`|thunder: kinda pathethic isn't it08:19
|thunderdiego, but now i dont know where it is08:19
diegoi tried xorgbug08:19
diegoit doesn't help08:19
diegoor xorgfix or smth like that08:19
xorediam trying to get my mouse ( logitech mx 510 ) running under xorg. touchpad is working fine, mouse is configured under xorg.conf ( http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3100/ ), evdev is running, mouse is detected and udev assigned it to /dev/input/mx510 according to my rule, but the mouse is not woking. Could someone help ? ( Xorg 7.1 )08:19
anders339what was the names of the "ati" packages?08:19
profoX`petar12: microsoft signed an agreement to only allow HD playback on 64bit versions because that would be "safer"08:19
|thundergoto digg.comm   its right on top08:20
ubuntu_ephesius i do have a gui installed but i am trying not to use it cuz i am trying to learn how to just use the console i got lynx and irc working :)08:20
|thunder*for the vista stroy that is08:20
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petar12profoX`: Oh to prevent piracy?  I see.08:20
profoX`petar12: i think so08:20
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trappistguys the vistaness is offtopic.  please join #ubuntu-offtopic08:20
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owen_anyone know a program equivalent to amarok for the Gnome desktop environment?08:21
ubuntu_the worst of xp + the worst of server 03 + the worst to come = vista08:21
diegobean-oh, the downgrade will fix this?08:21
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anders339true, and just vista itselfs takes like 800mb :-!08:22
vasylI want to install amd specific kernel instead of i386 if I apt-get install it do I need to reinstall my ati drivers? and do I also need to repompile/reinstall something else?08:22
nickd2does anyone know why my amd64 server install hangs on installing ubuntu-minimal?08:22
petar12Well this is very disappointing.  I would have to build a new pc to play HD content even though the one I have can play it fine.08:22
bean-ohdiego, worked for me. upgrading didn't work for me. lemme get you the link08:22
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ubuntu_trappist can i let them know that vista will rewrite there mbr everytime they boot it?08:22
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steps!Ekiga08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
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azurealdamn..i guess no one uses firefox08:23
steven43126hi08:23
trappistubuntu_: please take it to -offtopic.08:23
anders339i do.08:23
ephesiusubuntu_: I understand um i dont use synaptic but did you not find anything for mplayer in your apt-cache search?08:23
diegobean-oh, thanks08:23
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anders339azureal : what's the problem?08:23
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ubuntu_ephesius yeah but it was all for kde08:23
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jkleinhanshello I am having issues with kubuntu and a Alienware laptop's wireless internet connection...trying to get it to work but it hates me, any suggestions?08:23
steven43126anyone here using xen maybe on a AMD dualcore AM2?08:23
azurealanders339, it's above08:24
manmadhadiego, he i did the programs in windows initgraph()....etc but i dont know how to do it in linux .it is nessasary to learn gtk+..?08:24
ephesiusubuntu_: all of it...hold on one sec08:24
anders339oh, *goin' up*08:24
manmadhaplz help me08:24
nickd2jkleinhans: buy it flowers? whats the specific problem08:24
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|thunderazureal, what about ff ?08:24
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ubuntu_ephesius it also shows tea and mga-vid-source08:24
bean-ohdiego http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2156908:24
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jkleinhansI can't establish a connection with the wireless AP, additionally its returning permission issues, moreso when I run as sudo from kate08:24
bean-ohdiego, then just dpkg -i that .deb file.08:25
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jkleinhansyet it recognizes that wireless internet is present08:25
compotatoj!family > oransky08:25
owen_does anyone know of good audio editing software, maybe with even features like Sony Acid Pro 6, Fruity Loops XXL, Ableton Live 5, Cubase08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:25
ubuntu_trappist do we relley have to see that stuff from oransky?08:25
nox-HandI need to reinstall grub on either /dev/hda or /dev/hdb - how?08:25
nox-HandI am on the livecd08:25
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kaotcompotatoj: !language ?08:25
azureal|thunder, basically, i'm wondering how people set up their plugins for ff...that's why i asked someone to pastebin their firefox/plugins so that i could compaire [and make necessary changes] 08:25
compotatoji guess so08:25
trappistubuntu_: no more than we need to see vista stuff - anyway I'm not an op08:25
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azurealbecause i'm sometimes having crashing probs08:26
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anders339azureal : https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/08:26
steven43126owen_:  audacity08:26
ubuntu_trappist lol i thought you might be08:26
diegobean-oh, thanks08:26
ephesiusubuntu_: did you try enabling the multiverse maybe try apt-get install mozilla-mplayer08:26
anders339try that, if that's what you need help with-ish.08:26
kaotowen_: as for your player question, you might look into rhythmbox08:26
ubuntu_ephesius ill try that real quick08:26
nox-HandAnyone?08:26
|thunderazureal, hmm. im not sure what you mean. are you talking about extensions ? I just install them as normal. They are stored in my /home dir08:27
kaotowen_: for the production stuff, afaik linux is still lagging a bit in production software, and I really have no idea what's out there08:27
Paddy_EIREcould anyone tell me what maintenance tasks i should be carrying out with ubuntu? e.g. In windows i would run defrag antivirus checks chkdsk and occasional clean of temp files and the registry08:27
azurealanders339, you've tested this?08:27
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owen_thank you08:27
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anders339yepp, at least it worked on XP, can't see why it shouldn't work on Linux.08:27
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|thundernox-Hand, do you know the difference between reinstalling grub and rewriting the MBR ?08:27
azureal|thunder, i've set up ff so that it plays a variety of movies, but sometimes it freezes afterwards08:28
ubuntu_ephesius no dice but i am doing a apr-get update real quick then try again08:28
nox-Hand|thunder: Not really :)08:28
kaotPaddy_EIRE: other than reading your logfiles periodically to make sure nothing strange shows up, and keepig up with software updates, there's not a whole lot to do08:28
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anders339gotta reboot X then08:28
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azureal|thunder, i think i have a plugin conflict...thus my request to see another's firefox/plugins08:28
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Paddy_EIRE<kaot> where can i view log files08:28
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steven43126Paddy_EIRE: i find you don't have to do much you don't need to defrag ext3 dose not fragment, for av i use clamav, run chkrootkit from cron clean log files once in a while and thats it08:28
kaotPaddy_EIRE: /var/log08:28
Paddy_EIREk08:29
nox-Hand|thunder: So...whats it about?08:29
islanhey, how come I can't find acidrip on the archive?08:29
Paddy_EIRE<steven43126> od i just type this in a terminal 'chkrootkit'08:29
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Linuturk_codesteven43126, i could never get clamav to work correctly. It wouldn't update08:29
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steven43126Paddy_EIRE: though if your like me you may need to uninstall all the apps you install just play with yet seem to get stuck there08:29
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GUIPEnguin_I'm setting up the partition table as   /dev/hda2 as /boot     /dev/hda4  swap    /dev/hda3  /         this will be duel booting with windows on the /dev/hda1 partition....but the ubuntu gui installer insists that /dev/hda1 has a mount point as well?08:30
anders339!ati08:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:30
stef_hi, just installed ubuntu and forgot to install the other partitions on my hard disk08:30
|thundernox-Hand, grub resides in /boot/grub on the linux file system. the MBR is on the first harddrive whhich points to your /boot/grub08:30
steven43126Paddy_EIRE: yup thats about it after you have installed it, or run it from cron08:30
stef_how can i make them work?08:30
johnnybutterkekshello @ everybody08:30
ubuntu_ephesius nope nothing08:30
stef_and how can i see the other computers in the network?08:30
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Paddy_EIRE<steven43126> whats cron08:30
ephesiusubuntu_: no clue then...it can't find anything?08:31
steven43126Linuturk_code: don't know? the prgram that does the update is called freshclam mine just seems to work08:31
nox-Hand|thunder: Right. How do I make the mbr point to /dev/hda1/boot/grub?08:31
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islan!tell islan about restricted filetypes08:31
ubuntu_ephesius no do you know if a diff media player for console ?08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restricted filetypes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
Linuturk_codesteven43126, how did you install it? directions from the forums?08:31
steven43126Paddy_EIRE: do google for more info basically it's a task scheduer you can set pograms to run once every day onve every week etc etc08:31
Linuturk_code!restricted08:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:31
|thundernot sure. but that is the question you need to find the wenser too08:31
|thundernot sure. but that is the question you need to find the awnser too08:31
stef_no directly from a cd08:31
johnnybutterkeksive got a problem08:31
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johnnybutterkekscan anybody help me?08:32
Linuturk_code!ask08:32
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:32
ephesiusubuntu_:you mean like playing video from the cli?08:32
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ubuntu_!restricted formats08:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:32
ubuntu_ephesius no just music08:32
|thunderGUIPEnguin_, no need to make a /boot partiton. just make a 4-6 GB / part, a swap part the same size as your ram, and theh rest for /home.08:32
kaotubuntu_: you looking for like a console-based mp3 player kind of thing?08:32
stef_Linuturk_code any id?08:32
compotatojHow do you make the console/terminal use a bigger resolution (preferably 1600x1200 or 1280x1024)?08:32
ubuntu_kaot yeah08:33
johnnybutterkeksmy sound is crunching all the time when i play a video or some music -.- ive installed ubuntu dapper drake 6.0608:33
steven43126Linuturk_code: just ran apt-get, pretty much worked as is, check the clamav docs for more info, you shuld just be able to run it from the command line as and wehn you want08:33
ubuntu_kaot id like to also get last.fm08:33
|thunderGUIPEnguin_, that way when you want to reinstall you can just set the part the same and opt to only formatt the / part.08:33
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Linuturk_codestef_, what?08:33
compotatojubuntu_, it comes with rhythmbox08:33
legendxcompotatoj:  You got to add vga=792 at the end of your /boot/grub/menu.lst   (792= 1024x768)08:33
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Linuturk_codesteven43126, hmmm, ok. I did install the gui front end as well08:33
stef_how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network?08:33
Linuturk_codesteven43126, maybe that's where my problem lies08:33
anamartinezhola08:33
compotatojlegendx: what about for a bigger resolution, i know its possible08:33
ephesiusubuntu_: i have no ideas sorry08:33
GUIPEnguin_|thunder: I am making a /boot partition...I have been using gentoo for 3 years, and like a seperate /boot for various reasons08:33
ubuntu_compotato will rythembox work on console?08:34
vdmcgoban doesn't give sound (a java go client), any ideas what i can try to get it to work?08:34
anamartinezque tal?08:34
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steven43126Linuturk_code: don't seem to remember having any problems i don't use the gui didn't know there was one ? lol08:34
ubuntu_ephesius thanks for all the help anytway08:34
diegobean-oh, xorg wasn't my problem, someone helped me on #nvidia, thanks anyway08:34
legendxcompotatoj: http://www.sprint.net.au/~terbut/usefulbox/lilovgatable.htm08:34
anamartinezno08:34
steven43126Linuturk_code: what GUI u uding ?08:34
ephesiusubuntu_: no problem08:34
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kaotubuntu_: it isn't exactly full-featured but I use something called playmp3list, it's pretty basic but it works fine for me08:34
legendxcompotatoj:       794  =  1280x1024x1608:34
DiabolicSo, after installing kubuntu-desktop, how do I switch to using KDE?08:34
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anamartinezno08:34
ubuntu_nic cjones08:34
bean-ohdiego, no problem - glad you got it fixed08:34
kaotubuntu_: but I dunno if it's in the repos, I installed source08:34
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compotatojubuntu, i think so... quodlibet does08:34
nox-Hand|thunder: Do you know how?08:34
anamartinezsi08:35
Linuturk_codesteven43126, i was using the gnome based gui.08:35
GUIPEnguin_|thunder: my main problem is this gui installer insists on needing a mount point for my ntfs windows partition on /dev/hda108:35
Sjoerd-hi, anyone knows how to use screen? I have something running with it but can't find it back.............08:35
Linuturk_codesteven43126, i don't remember the name of it08:35
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steven43126Linuturk_code: hmm ill have a look for it08:35
ubuntu_knot ok ill try i would like to try to install from source08:35
fdovingSjoerd-: screen -r08:35
anamartinezsi08:35
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|thunderGUIPEnguin_, do you not want to mount it ? just remove it08:35
oiad_selber emo08:35
fdovingSjoerd-: screen -r number/name if you have multiple screens.08:35
ubuntu_knot or try to teach myself how lol08:35
anamartinezno08:35
anamartinezajjaja08:35
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stef_how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network? anyone else than linuturk has an id how to solve this or whete i can find the solution of my problem?08:36
BOBSONATORthe forums are super slow today...08:36
BOBSONATORi cant get anywhere.08:36
Sjoerd-fdoving: -r ?08:36
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ubuntu_compotato whats quodlibet ?08:36
johnnybutterkeksmy sound is crunching all the time when i play a video or some music -.- can anybody help me?08:36
anamartinezhola08:36
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compotatojubuntu_, it is like rhythmbox but not08:36
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bean-ohweird, i can't ctrl-alt-[0-9]  to the terminals now. any idea why?08:36
stef_oransky, you wanker08:37
anamartinezque tal?08:37
ubuntu_compotato sort of like winamp=xmms?08:37
|thunderGUIPEnguin_, When I installed ubuntu it just kinda automagically edited my MBR so it pointed to /booot and if it failed it reverts back to the NT loader08:37
anamartinezqueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee08:37
ephesiusbean-oh: are you using the F1 etc. keys?08:37
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BOBSONATORwanker lol08:37
Sjoerd-"Type "screen [-d]  -r [pid.] tty.host" to resume one of them."08:37
compotatojubuntu_, yeah.. but this looks very similar to rhythmbox, so it is like itunes i guess08:37
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nox-HandDoes anyone know how I can get grub mbr installed to /dev/hda1/boot/grub (( so the mbr gets grub on hda1 to load ))08:38
bean-ohephesius, yes, i forgot the F, doesn't work, was working yesterday.08:38
ubuntu_compotato do you know if it will run well form console ?08:38
nox-HandI am on the livecd08:38
Paddy_EIREi downloaded and installed clamav now how do i run it08:38
BOBSONATORomg, i crap faster than the forum pages load08:38
asdf /part08:38
asdfoops08:38
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michaels__how do I search by keyword within a man file?08:38
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anamartinezjajajajajjajajajjajajjajajajjasjsjjs08:38
ubuntu_passy_eire just ty0pe it in term08:38
oiad_y008:38
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anamartinezque08:39
GUIPEnguin_|thunder: I understand. But I am in the gui installer, manuly editing partitions... I have made my partitions I want in my freespace, Windows is on /dev/hda1   I have three partitions for linux to use...and when I click next, and tell ubuntu what to use for each one....I have to give a mount point for /dev/hda1 as well...it thinks I want to use it in my ubuntu setup...it wants a mount point which it doesn't need.08:39
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anamartinezhoola08:39
ajopaul_hi any idea how to play audio on 3gp files without having to recompile mplayer, have installed the ubuntu version so dont have source i guess..08:39
steven43126Paddy_EIRE: typically something like clamav --infected --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev /08:39
owen_im using rhythmbox, i keep importing a folder, it doesnt add any songs, any ideas?08:39
steven43126check man page for more options08:39
anamartinezque es eso08:39
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anamartinezsi08:40
kaotowen_: did you get the mp3 codecs installed?08:40
ajopaul_it requires a codec amr_nb whichi is missing..08:40
owen_how do i check?08:40
anamartinezsi08:40
ephesiusmichaels_: did you try grep? man manpage | grep keyword08:40
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natural20so my file transfers stall in nautilus; any help?08:41
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michaels__didn't try that yet ephesius, thanks08:41
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|thunderGUIPEnguin_, that is very strange. my windows partiton is mounted as '/media/winxp' on the left and '/dev/hda1' on the right.08:41
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anamartinezhola de nuebo08:41
ephesiusmichaels_: i think there is a feature in man for it but i dont know what it is sorry08:41
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michaels__ephesius: oh, grep just gave me one line with the keyword in it, I need to just jump to the right part of the man page08:42
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kaotowen_: I can't remember the name of the package to install them, unfortunately, or i'd tell you.  Probably though rhythmbox isn't recognizing mp3 as a valid audio file.08:42
anamartinezsi08:42
kaoterm.08:42
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kaot!restricted08:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:42
usulhey, ever since the last xserver upgrade, my videos on gxine lag-- anyone know why or how i can fix this (obviously they didnt lag before)08:42
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kaotowen_: check those out08:42
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ajopaul_!paste > ajopaul_08:42
bean-oh!kismet08:42
ubotukismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB08:42
GUIPEnguin_|thunder: I got it: thanks08:42
kaotkismet's kinda neat08:43
|thundermichaels__, i think you can hit /blahblahh in a man page to search08:43
pradeeperis there any IRC channel that dedicated to "remastering ubuntu"?08:43
|thunderGUIPEnguin_, yvw08:43
stepsguys im having a problem the audio input, basicaly the microphone is active and working, however when i try to record anything or use VOIP, it simply doesnt work... any clues how i can fix that08:43
bean-ohyar, i have it on my mac08:43
Hedafolks, is there a way to clear out redundant package, ie the libs that get installed and stick around after you've removed the main program /08:43
oiad_selber emo08:43
michaels__yep |thunder, thanks08:43
bean-ohkinda sucks with the cripped airport extreme though08:43
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|thundersteps, have you had a look in the volume control applet to ensure the mic is set to record ?08:44
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knapperDoes anyone else feel like browsing in windows/firefox seems faster then linux/firefox08:44
knapper?08:44
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stepsthunder u mean the capture tab? yes it is active08:44
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kaotknapper: not particularly, no...08:45
|thunderknapper, ya, but only because my wirless card is running at 1mbit/ps  yes that MegaBIT.  have been able to solve it.08:45
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|thundersteps, other than that i dont know. ive not done any recording.08:45
stepsok thanks mate ill try to figure it out, its frustrating08:46
knapperIt feels a lot faster in windows to me, for some reason...08:46
stepsKnapper i had the same problem08:46
usulanyone notice gxine lagging after the latest upgrade of x ??08:46
ephesiusknapper: windows on the same machine?08:46
knapperyes08:46
stepsi have windows and linux on the same machine08:46
Hedathe other thing is, i've been trying to get totem-gstreamer to play wmv's but no luck at all, and theres no sound in mov files either08:46
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anamartinezholaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:46
pratenglish08:47
macoI just put the Dapper live cd into a computer to test the ethernet card.  It won't go live.  There's just the shell, and startx won't do anything.08:47
stepsdunno if its the reason but it became better after i updated the drivers of my graphic card08:47
michaels__I don't get how to use the rotate option on mencoder... what kind of command to I write to simply rotate a file?08:47
macoAfter "uncompressing linux...ok, bootingthe kernel" it says "[17179569.184000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP08:47
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dom_Hi knapper - yes I thought so too then tried Swiftfox which is a recompiled firefox with different compile time options - now Ubuntu swiftfox is faster than windows firefox08:47
macothen it says "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:01:00.0"08:48
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macoand then /bin/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off08:48
knapperdom_ I forgot to mention that I am using swiftfox on my linux partition08:48
|thundermichaels__, not sure, but I know it can be done. for projectors.08:48
anamartinezsi08:48
steven43126anyone here good with dvd encoding on linux  ?08:48
dom_ahhh08:48
michaels__|thunder: it can be done, I'm just too newb to know how to put together the commands. :)08:48
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richardbaHi there08:49
richardbaI need help08:49
knapperIt took me 19.458 seconds to load slashdot08:49
steven43126my laptop has really bad speakers and some dvd's play really quite, i know you can normalize audi cd,s to change the volume can you do this with dvd's and avi's ?08:49
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anamartinezvoy a ver una cosa08:49
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richardbahow to acess ubuntu as root user?08:49
michaels__I did this |thunder: mencoder -rotate=2 MVI_3558.AVI -o show.avi08:49
anamartinezana08:49
iqoncan i do twinview without ati or nvidia drivers?08:49
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richardbahow to acess ubuntu as root user?08:50
steven43126iqon: twinview is an nvidia only option08:50
anamartinezsiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii08:50
Acidiansu08:50
richardbahow to acess ubuntu as root user?08:50
|thundermichaels__, first you should start with a mencoder command that will encode, say, the first 10 second of the video into another file.08:50
richardbawhere?08:50
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Acidiantype su in console and you get root08:50
michaels__why |thunder?08:50
richardbaI cant enter as root08:50
anamartinezsiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii08:50
richardbain the login08:50
Acidianyou have to log in with your normal user08:50
jkleinhanshttp://pastebin.com/775077 <-- Anyone have any ideas?08:50
richardbawhat is happening08:50
richardbais that my user is named08:51
richardba"root"08:51
iqonis there a multiple display option for other video adapters?08:51
richardbalol08:51
richardba:p08:51
anamartinezsi08:51
Acidianthen when you are in ubuntu, use the su command to become super user or the sudo command for temporary root08:51
oranskyjkleinhans, more wanking, less talking08:51
|thundermichaels__, how big is the video ? mb's gb's ?08:51
steven43126iqon xinerama works really well08:51
michaels__almost twenty megs08:51
richardbais that my user is named "root"08:51
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iqonsteven43126: thanks, i'll give that a shot08:51
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richardbathis is the problem08:51
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Acidianyour user name isnt root, but you can give yourself root08:51
sethkrichardba, depending on which install options you chose, the root password may not be set.08:52
stef_can't solve the problem ...08:52
Acidianubuntu doesnt have root as its own user08:52
sethkrichardba, if not, you can set it.08:52
anamartinezvoy a cenar08:52
stef_how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network? anyone else than linuturk has an id how to solve this or whete i can find the solution of my problem?08:52
Acidianso you need to start up ubuntu first with normal user, and give yourself root after08:52
stef_think i've got to try it in knoppix08:52
michaels__almost twenty megs |thunder08:52
demonbaneAnyone happen to know how to disable the clipboard management in Gnome 2.12 and later? It seems to be breaking my X clipboard when using a remote X server.08:52
oiad_selber emo08:52
|thundersudo passwd will do the reick08:52
DiabolicSo, after installing kubuntu-desktop, how do I switch to using KDE?08:52
sethkrichardba, do you mean that you called your normal user root during the install procedure?08:52
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anamartinezy maana me conerto08:52
|thunderok ,then thats nothing. nm that 10 second crap.08:52
jkleinhansoransky: this is a Alienware laptop trying to connect to a WAP via its wireless NIC08:52
sethkDiabolic, bring up synaptic, and you'll find kde packages to install08:52
stef_m$ is totally fucked up and i can't use partition magic anymore ...08:52
jkleinhansoransky: I can't get it running :(08:52
richardbaso I have to reinstall ubuntu08:52
sethk!es > anamartinez08:53
compotatojstef_: gparted08:53
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stef_gparted won't start08:53
Diabolicsethk: Well, as I said: _After installing kubuntu-desktop_ ;-)08:53
|thundermichaels__, the command looks right. does it work without the rotate option? just making an extra file ?08:53
stef_i've got to fill in my password08:53
sethkanamartinez, que quiere decir conerto?08:53
richardbathere is any way to attribute another user?08:53
stef_than i see a blink of the program and than nothing08:53
sethkDiabolic, you mean how to you log in to kde?08:53
michaels__|thunder: when I try the command I posted I get this: -rotate=2 is not an MEncoder option08:53
Diabolicsethk: Yep, I can't find any option on the login screen.08:53
sethkDiabolic, at the gdm login screen, there is an option to choose the type of session08:54
|thunderstef_, run the app from the console to see the error08:54
stef_compatotj any id?08:54
michaels__(after a little startup report and before an exiting message)08:54
sethkDiabolic, are you using gdm?08:54
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Diabolicsethk: Yep.08:54
|thundermichaels__, try it without the =08:54
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sethkDiabolic, ordinarily when you install the kde desktop, it will be added to the list of sessions that appear in gdm08:54
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sethkDiabolic, let me see if there is a separate package related to that.08:54
richardbabecause it says that "Admin isnt allowed to login in this screen session"08:54
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Diabolicsethk: k, thanks.08:54
michaels__|thunder: same thing, and I tried it before with a dash or a space and none of these worked08:54
sethkrichardba, right, for security reasons that is blocked08:54
Diabolicsethk: kubuntu-desktop installed without problems, fyi :)08:55
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richardbaso08:55
richardbawhat should I do?08:55
|thundermichaels__, ohh, i know. its probably not a -option08:55
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michaels__then what is it?08:55
|thundermichaels__, look above it. the -option will be there and the rotate=2 goafter it or some crap08:55
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richardbashould I reinstall ubuntu?08:55
richardbais there another way to create other user?08:56
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yawn9anyone know much about wireless networking? i've never done it on linux before, and i just installed ubuntu. a google search shows that it should be possible with my card but people who try to say how don't speak english very well08:56
sethkDiabolic, probably a quick way around your problem is to install kdm (if you haven't yet installed it)08:56
XVirushow can I disallow dhclient from changing my resolv.conf ?08:56
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sethkrichardba, yes08:56
|thundermichaels__, rotate should be grouped in with other commands. i dont have it installed currently or i'd just look it up for ya08:56
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sethkrichardba, are you at the machine?  why are you trying to use screen?08:56
Diabolicsethk: the package 'kdm'?08:56
lupine_85XVirus: try adding the dns-nameserver option to your /etc/network/interfaces08:56
sethkDiabolic, right08:56
lupine_85might work08:56
phreakysdamn08:56
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phreakysanother hangup in compiz08:56
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phreakysnot really too stable :/08:57
michaels__|thunder: this works: mencoder MVI_3558.AVI rotate=2 -o bomb.avi08:57
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|thunderphreakys, mine rock stable.08:57
michaels__(except it needs a sound encoder first)08:57
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LiveCDPartitionHey,  well I installed Linux, but accidently wiped out windows!08:57
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Linuturk_code!wireless > Linuturk_code08:57
phreakyshm, lucky you08:57
sethkphreakys, the docs for combiz say that it is alpha software and not to expect it to work flawlessly08:57
Diabolicsethk: Alrighty.08:57
|thundermichaels__, yes. awesome08:57
sethkphreakys, if you don't want glitches, don't work with alpha releases08:57
phreakysyea, not really a problem. love the eyecandy08:57
michaels__thanks |thunder08:57
Linuturk_code!wireless > yawn908:57
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|thundermichaels__, your very welcome08:57
yawn9!wireless08:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:57
sethkLiveCDPartition, probably you only need to configure the boot manager to get windows back08:57
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sethkLiveCDPartition, when you do    fdisk -l /dev/hda   (may need sudo)    do you see the windows partition?  assuming your hard drive is hda, of course08:58
yawn9well, lets take a looksee at this..08:58
phreakysis there somekind of taskmanager in ubuntu to close hanging apps?08:58
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|thundermichaels__, you just learned alot for asking for a newb way of doing something, ;P08:58
fuciHow can I extract files to my apache home folder? (/Var/www/)? It says I don't have the rights. Thanks!08:58
lupine_85killall -9 ?08:58
phreakysah08:58
phreakystnx08:58
sethkfuci, use sudo08:58
fucisethk: In what way?08:59
jpjacobsphreakys, if you click a few times on the cross of the app, it'll ask you wheter you wnat to kill it...08:59
|thunderphreakys, ya. in the gnome panel. or ps -A and killall APPNAME08:59
sethkfuci, sudo cp /var/www/whatever /somewhere08:59
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lupine_85there is a graphical app as well, and an applet control (so you just click that, then click on the window you want to kill)08:59
lupine_85but kill and killall are foolproof08:59
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phreakysthanks08:59
sethkfuci, or sudo filemanager-program  (perhaps sudo nautilus, e.g.)08:59
Don_jrIs the text based install CD the same install that's on the live CD version?08:59
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fucisethk: ok, thanks!08:59
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gil_can someone help me with apache09:00
Linuturk_codeDon_jr, yes, basically. there are more options on the text based as well09:00
sethklupine_85, also top lets you kill perhaps a bit more easily than just cli, but without needing the gui09:00
gil_simple idiot question?09:00
MadkissWhere do I configure what locales locale-gen generates?09:00
phreakysgot it :D09:00
sethkDon_jr, it's a different install front end09:00
Don_jrGreat, it's acctually installing in the text based version where it wouldn't from the live CD09:00
bean-ohgil_ shoot09:00
Don_jrI just wanted to make sure it was still the latest version09:00
gil_where is the root index for apache?09:00
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lupine_85text-based is more stable :)09:00
gil_where do i place all files etc....09:00
sethkMadkiss, I think it generates every one for which an i18 package was installed09:00
sethkgil_, usually /var/www09:00
BrushwellHow do I resize an existing ext3 partition, with a linux distro already on, to create a new one for Ubuntu?09:01
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sethkgil_, if you use virtual servers, they will be in subdirectories of /var/www09:01
yawn9i did what this wireless info said to do earlier and it's not working09:01
bean-ohgil_ look in your httpd.conf or apache2.conf, DocumentRoot specifies this.09:01
yawn9just says eth1 fails to come up or whatever09:01
gil_ok so var/www09:01
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sethkBrushwell, gparted will do that.  back up before adjusting partitions sizes09:01
gil_now...another question09:01
lupine_85 /var/www/apache2-default is where the default apache page is09:01
clausIs there a command that tells you you're net card name and wireless card name?09:01
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lupine_85lspci or lsusb09:01
Brushwellsethk: tried it, didn't work.09:01
clausyour*09:01
|thunderclaus, ya. dmesg09:01
lupine_85^claus^09:01
Madkisssethk: yeah, but it nly generates UTF-8. I want latin1.09:01
UKMattso this is an odd petty question, but when you click the menu button in gnome, does anyone know how to get rid of those arrows up and down that come up sometimes09:02
clausok09:02
GUIPEnguin_anyone else ever had the problem of the gui installer freezing while "installing system"?    this is rediculus09:02
|thunderclaus, er, ya lspci   thats it09:02
Don_jrCan I get a confirmation that the Netgear WG511 wireless card is compatible with Ubuntu?  I can't find it anywehre but someone in here last night said it would...09:02
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lupine_85Don_jr: what chipset is it?09:02
drezhajust stuck with the text installers really09:02
Don_jrGUIPEnguin_ yes, it did the same thing to me, so I got the text based installer09:02
gil_how do i set up  photo galleryh09:02
gil_basic thumbnails and full images09:02
Don_jrlupine_85 how do I find out the chipset?  I was just told to make sure it was model number WG51109:03
sethkMadkiss, did you search for packages that might be related to latin1?09:03
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UKMattdoes anyone even know what i'm talking about with the arrows?09:03
lupine_85are you in windows at the moment?09:03
GUIPEnguin_Don_jr: thanks...I normaly do tex-based installs (gentoo) but I thought I would try the ubuntu gui installer...I didnt think it would be this crappy09:03
Madkisssethk: no09:03
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sethkUKMatt, I don't :)09:03
Linuturk_codeGUIPEnguin_, yeah, i like the text based installer way better09:03
Don_jrGUIPEnguin_ yeah, I had some pretty major problems with it last night myself so decided to go the other way, it's worth it09:03
sethkMadkiss, I just did, but I didn't find anything terribly interesting  (:09:03
bean-ohgil_, there are plenty of public php scripts that do this. you'll need to kinda poke around to get this going09:04
Madkisssethk: errr ....09:04
UKMattsethk, when you click the menu button, soemtimes it'll give me arrows up and down to make me scroll to the other programs, sometimes it wont, i wanna get rid of them09:04
drezhaany idea of how to "set tftpd-hpa to be started by inetd"?09:04
Diabolicsethk: Well, I installed kdm, chose kdm as default there, restarted, got an error about not finding the theme file but now the login screen said "Welcome to Kubuntu".  I logged in and GNOME started.09:04
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Don_jrlupine_85 how do I find out the chipset in my wireless card? would it be on the box or what?09:04
sethkGUIPEnguin_, you can install breezy with the older graphical install, which works beautifully, and upgrade to dapper.09:04
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sethkGUIPEnguin_, or just stay with breezy for a few more weeks, which is what I'm doing on most of my systems.09:04
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gil_ok thanks09:04
lupine_85not usually on the wireless card - in windows you'd normally have to resort to browsing the .inf file09:04
Linuturk_codesethk, what happens in a few more weeks ?09:04
GUIPEnguin_are the text-based dapper installation cds provided on the same page the gui cds are?09:05
sethkDiabolic, ok, clearly not all of kde is installed09:05
gil_just got back from an awesome trip in gros morne park....i wanna place my pics on the server09:05
sethkLinuturk_code, things stabalize and are fixed09:05
gil_ok thanks all09:05
Diabolicsethk: Any idea what I'm missing?09:05
Don_jrlupine_85 I can put the install CD into this box i"m on here which is still running XP and check the .inf file if that will find it?09:05
sethkLinuturk_code, I never install a new release until it's been out for three months09:05
Hedaare there no equivalents of media player - ie one which will play both audio and video - it all seems to be one or the other09:05
sethkDiabolic, let me check the kde packages09:05
Linuturk_codesethk, i installed the night of the release ;p09:05
Diabolicsethk: 'kubuntu-desktop' and 'kdm' is all I've installed.09:05
lupine_85it's ok, looks like google knows09:05
Linuturk_codesethk, no major problems09:06
lupine_85is it just a wg511 or is it a wg511v2 ?09:06
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Don_jrlet me check09:06
sethkDiabolic, bring up synaptic, and look at the two KDE sections (KDE Desktop Environment and Kde Desktop Environment (univeral)09:06
BrushwellNo luck with GParted in resizing the partitions.09:06
lupine_85http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/15-802.11g-Netgear-WG511-and-Linux.html and http://verens.com/archives/2005/02/21/installing-a-netgear-wg511-v2-marvell-chipset-in-linux/09:06
drezhahow can I set set tftpd-hpa to be started by inetd?09:06
sethkDiabolic, I would install everything in KDE Desktop Environment except internationalization files (unless you want internationalization, of course)09:06
yawn9so with my wireless card, the settings look right in iwconfig. when i try to bring it up with "sudo ifup eth1" i get this error twice: SIOCSFFLAGS: no such file or directory and it says it failed to bring it up09:06
GUIPEnguin_is the "atternate install cd"  for ubuntu dapper... << is that the text-based?09:06
Don_jrlupine_85 just WG511 it's not v209:07
lupine_85linuxant is like ndiswrapper on steroids, but it is $2009:07
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drezhaGUIP - yeah09:07
GUIPEnguin_k09:07
lupine_85in that case, you can get it working with the prism driver, I think09:07
jperezis it just me or did the forums go down?09:07
michaels__|thunder, in the unlikely case you were wondering, it still didn't work after that but then I figured out that "rotate" is an argument for the -vf option (filter)09:07
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sethkyawn9, are you sure the required kernel modules are loaded?  do they show up when you do:   lsmod   ?09:07
lupine_85Don_jr: http://prism54.org/09:07
Don_jrlupine_85 it's already passed the network adapter part of installation, I can alter that once it's installed correct?09:07
yawn9let me go check. the card is listed if i go to the networking administration window though so i think so09:08
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sethkyawn9, you are probably correct, but check anyway09:08
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lupine_85Don_jr: yes09:09
lupine_85the install cd is pretty useless for setting up wlan09:09
chucklescompiz problem: no window borders, some error about gnome decorator, help plz09:09
Don_jrlupine_85 okay, I'm reading that site you gave me and if I need anymore help I'll ask around09:09
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jperezhello all09:10
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varsendaggrchuckles, go to ubutu-xgl09:10
chucklesok?09:10
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tepus6hi i recently downloaded a .daa disk image and was wondering if there was a program capable of converting/burning these?09:11
varsendaggrhey   is there a way to graphically edit fstab?09:11
lupine_85ok. worst-case scenario is that it'll cost you $20 to get it working on linux. best-case is free linux driver. ndiswrapper might also work.09:11
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tepus6varsendaggr, sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:11
lupine_85looks promising anyway ::)09:11
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Don_jrlupine_85 I'm hopeing the fella last night that said ti would work by just plugging it in was right...lol09:12
varsendaggrtepus6, ok how aobut when i use the disk manager how can i write these to fstab perminantly?09:12
Don_jrbut it never hurts to get a second oppinion09:12
yawn9sethk, actually, i'm not sure if they are. i see rfcomm listed in lsmod but other than that nothing looks like it's related to wifi09:12
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islanhey, what's the streaming radio interface called again>09:13
islan?09:13
drezhavarsendagger - if you use sudo gedit /ete/fstab and save, it save it permenantly09:13
tepus6varsendaggr, im sorry im not sure on that09:13
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jpereznevermind, i'm outta here.09:14
sethkyawn9, I would expect to see a couple specifically related to your hardware09:14
nickd2I am trying to install server amd64 and it hangs on setting up ubuntu-minimal. I have tried burning 3 diff intstall cd's and the iso md5 checks out. I need help!09:14
varsendaggrakkk    and has anyone been able to ((  islan that is streamtuner  ))    get an mp3 ripper to encode and do it small09:14
lupine_85 Don_jr: the kernel has the prism54 drivers in it by default, so it should detect and set it up automatically09:14
islanvarsendaggr, ah, thankees@!09:14
tepus6will any software burn a .daa disk image?09:14
Juhaztepus6, unlikely09:14
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tepus6hmmm09:15
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yawn9sethk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported lists my card as being able to work "out of the box" which i thought meant i wouldn't have to load any modules. any hints on how i would find the right one? it's a linksys wmp54g09:15
sivaniconAnyone have any insite on running linux apps on windows?09:15
drezhavarsendagger, sound juicer extractor can copy to MP309:15
sivaniconerr insight*09:15
yawn9just driving me nuts because it's listed in there but i can't get the interface up09:15
nox-HandI want grub reinstalled to hda1.. can someone tell me how?09:15
varsendaggrdrezha, yeah but the files are huge09:15
drezhalook in the readme of if and it says how09:15
varsendaggrdrezha,09:15
varsendaggrohh09:15
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dojohas anoyne had this eror when installing a pakage:dependency is not sarisfiable: linux headers-2.6.15-2309:15
Don_jrlupine_85 that would be awesome.  IF I can get it up and runnin online, I'll change my entire network over to ubuntu09:15
dojohow do u fix it09:15
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drezhamine rips at 128kps by default I think09:16
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varsendaggrhow big are the files?09:16
syntaxxdoes anyone know a site for where i can get a mysql old releases?09:16
knapperwhat repository can I find the latest amarok (unstable)?09:16
varsendaggrmy mp3s were 80 mb per track09:16
drezha:O09:16
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synicsyntaxx: apt-get.org09:17
drezha3.5Mb to 4Mb usually09:17
varsendaggrknapper, if you google apt-get    there is the unofficial repos   and you can search for every thing09:17
varsendaggrak09:17
Brushwellit's amaroK for a reason. Look at the K, the K! it's not amaroG. :D09:17
profoX`its renamed Amarok09:17
profoX`:P09:17
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knappervarsendaggr thanks09:17
dojo has anoyne had this eror when installing a pakage:dependency is not sarisfiable: linux headers-2.6.15-2309:17
Brushwellstill no G! :P09:17
varsendaggrdrezha, can you tell me what your code is in the juicer thing is09:17
profoX`Brushwell: Amarog would sound... stupid :)09:17
Brushwellexactly!09:17
drezhayou have to create a new profile called MP309:17
Brushwellyou GNOME folks use Rhythmbox :P09:18
varsendaggrudio/x-raw-int,rate=440,channels=2 ! lame name=enc preset=1001 ! id3v2mux09:18
varsendaggryeah   i did that09:18
varsendaggrdrezha,09:18
sethkdojo, have you done apt-get update ?09:18
Brushwellus KDE homegrowns will use amaroK. :P09:18
drezhathats what mine is though09:18
profoX`knapper: in #kubuntu-offtopic someone made the latet version available 1.4.209:18
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drezhaaudio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux09:18
yawn9sethk, i'm going to try the instructions on this page: http://bcm43xx.spugna.org/index.php?topic=29.0 iwconfig lists my card as a 430609:18
syntaxxsynic, how bout from source?09:18
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sethkyawn9, ok, good luck.09:18
drezhaah it's a bit different...09:19
drezhatry audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux09:19
dojoapt-get  update no but dont i need to be connected to the net for that09:19
yawn9going to be a pain since i don't have internet access on it for wget though. lol09:19
sethkdojo, yes, but you also need to be connected to the net to satisfy dependencies09:19
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drezhathink it's because you've got a smaller rate...I presume thats how often it sample the track09:19
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islanokay, um, did I do something wrong with streamtuner's installation?  not showing up on the menu09:19
sethkdojo, you can download the .deb file, but of course to do that you'll have to have a machine on the 'net, although it can be a different box09:19
dojono but i downloaded the pkage i have it09:19
dojoyes i  did thatg09:20
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sethkdojo, oh, then you can install with dkpg -i09:20
varsendaggrislan, try to run it from the command line09:20
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dojokk thx ill try that09:20
Don_jridiot question...what is python?09:20
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BrushwellDon_jr: a programming language.09:21
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Don_jrk thanx09:21
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Don_jrthought so but wasn't clear09:21
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synica quite nice one at that :)09:21
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Don_jrI know nothing about programming right now...this is going to be a great learning experience.  This is my first nix system ever used09:22
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Don_jrI hope ubuntu was the right choice for an inexperienced user like myself.09:22
islanvarsendaggr, that's what I did, seemed to install okay, but it's not on the gnome menu09:22
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sethkDon_jr, python is a nice language to learn with09:22
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sethkDon_jr, it is.  Remember, unix was designed to be a programming environment09:23
pratwhen i do 'sudo ln -s /boot/System.map-2.6.15 /boot/System.map', i get a "file exists" error...does this mean that i need to delete the System.map symlink before i can relink that?09:23
Don_jrRight, that and it's networking security and ability are why I want to learn it...and to get away from the microsoft monopoly09:23
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sethkDon_jr, you should not let politics into your technical decision making09:24
mechmg93hi, im trying to setup my iptables firewall to work with vsftpd. my vsftpd.conf is herehttp://pastebin.ca/147919. i put these lines http://pastebin.ca/147920 in my iptables but i cannot acces my ftp server. hav any idea???09:24
varsendaggrislan, it should be under sound and video09:24
nickd2is there a bug in the current amd64 server installer? I can't get past configuring ubuntu-minimal09:25
islanvarsendaggr, yeah I know, and it's not there O.o09:25
islanand it tells me that it is installed09:25
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Don_jrsethik XP has been one of the most unreliable OS's I've ever used, 98 crashes every hour.....and the nix systems are almost completely customizable once you learn how to run them from what I hear....it's more than just the polotics09:25
islanvarsendaggr, here, I'll try the menu editor...09:25
anthony_hello09:25
Jack_Sparrowsethk: It goes beyone politics, it is security... integrity... expense09:25
sethkDon_jr, that's fine.  I was talking about your remark about monopoly09:26
varsendaggrislan, how about runing it from the command line09:26
varsendaggrxterm09:26
sethkJack_Sparrow, I've been using it for 30 years, you don't have to convince me09:26
islanvarsendaggr, it shows up in the menu editor09:26
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islanaha, and now it is magically there09:26
Don_jrTired of microsoft charging for everysingle thing.  You pay 200 bucks for thier OS then they want to charge you for them to fix it...it's annoying09:26
sethkDon_jr, true09:26
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nox-HandI have a floppy.img, which I need transfered to my /dev/fd009:26
nox-HandHow do I do this?09:26
sethkDon_jr, there are plenty of technical reasons, you don't need the political ones  :)09:26
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varsendaggrislan, that is cool09:26
sethknox-Hand, dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd009:27
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sethknox-Hand, that assumes floppy.img is in the current directory09:27
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anthony_I tried to install the ati drivers through Easy Ubuntu, and it hasn't worked.  Can anyone help please?  (Im completely new to all this stuff....:) )09:27
Don_jrif/when I learn the commands of bash and possibly one of the programming languages built into the nix system, I'll be able to make it do pretty much anything I want.  I like the sounds of that09:27
sethknox-Hand, if that's not true,   dd if=/whatever/floppy.img of=/dev/fd009:27
Don_jrand I like to learn, gives me something to keep my mind busy and learn to do09:27
Don_jrI'll be living in here for a couple of weeks! lmao09:27
sethkDon_jr, true.  I'd recommend zsh.  zsh (and bash also) are available in windows as well as unix09:27
nox-Handsethk: Well, when I do that, it just sorta emties the .img file. It gets to fill 0 bytes, and does nothing to the floppy.09:28
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sethknox-Hand, do this:   du -h floppy.img      tell me what it reports09:28
varsendaggrcrap    my mp3s are comming out 22 mb09:28
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yawn9is gcc not in the default installation? i can't run "make" on the application that i'm trying to use to fix my wifi09:28
Don_jrsethk okay, that's cool cause I"ve still got xp on this computer, if I program something on my XP box with zsh can I transfer it to my nix system09:28
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sethkyawn9, sudo apt-get install build-essential09:28
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yawn9thanks09:29
sethkDon_jr, yes09:29
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nox-Hand0 floppy.img sethk09:29
Don_jrGreat09:29
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sethknox-Hand, ok, it's an empty file09:29
Don_jrand no more pop ups, spyware and what not....I"m very excited to get it running09:29
sethknox-Hand, usually that means the download didn't complete for some reason09:29
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anthony_How do I install the ATI drivers please anyone?09:29
Jack_Sparrow!ati09:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:30
nox-Handsethk: No...just gimme a sec, will re-extract the file09:30
sethkDon_jr, I only use windows these days to print on my photo printer; I create the image on linux bu do the actually printing on windows09:30
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nox-Handsethk: now it says 1,5 mb09:30
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anthony_cheers09:30
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sethknox-Hand, ok, try the dd command again09:30
Don_jrsethk that's pretty cool, I'm looking forward to working with it.  And with the 4 or more desktops at once, that's great.  I can chat on one, brows on another and program in a 3rd and not have my space all cluttered09:31
Don_jrthere's so much I've read about it that I love..it's great!09:31
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nox-Handsethk: It said it did 61 mb/s, and then it exits. How do I check whether it worked?09:32
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sethknox-Hand, you can reverse the process:   do this:    dd if=/dev/fd0 of=some-file-name      then, when that's done, do    md5sum floppy.img some-file-name      and see if they are the same09:33
lupine_85or just mount the floppy? ;)09:33
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richiefrichgetbacktoher issues?09:34
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Sarra_Spamming09:34
azurealhi; what's a good graphical printer-finding prog09:34
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nox-Hand2Stop him!!09:34
azurealyep, spamming09:34
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Sarra_Good freaking riddance09:35
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sethklupine_85, that's true, but I don't know the file system type09:35
azurealalways fun to watch people get 'K-lined'09:35
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sethkSarra_, who?  I didn't see anything.09:35
Acidian^09:35
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Acidian^^09:35
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sethkwhat did I miss?09:35
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nox-Handsethk: right09:35
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Sarra_getbacktoher was spamming09:35
nox-Handsethk: They are :D09:35
richiefrich /mod +b *!*@c-24-218-232-*.hsd1.ma.comcast.net09:35
nickd2anyone know why my amd64 install hangs on configuring ubununtu-minimal?09:36
sethkI have join/part messages filtered, maybe that's why I didn't see it09:36
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nox-HandCRAP.. leetwoot is probably the same guy09:36
Don_jrsethk that would be great, how do I do that? filter out the enter and exit messages?  I"m new to this IRC too09:36
raphinksomeone is trying to be kicked here09:36
xoredbb09:36
exsspam.. kick him09:36
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Qball don't kick me09:36
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MenZaSeveas: saves the day.09:36
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Qballplease09:36
raphinkah09:36
QballI'll be good09:36
raphinkkicked ;)09:36
sethkDon_jr, in xchat, right click on the channel tab09:36
raphinkpfeiw09:36
xepherwhew09:36
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Sarra_I'm getting server spamming09:36
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Don_jroh..lol I'm still on windows09:37
huraxer?09:37
sethkDon_jr, then go to the #ubuntu pull down09:37
stack_I'm using winbind to authenticate to Active Directory... unfortunately, I'm on a laptop, which means authentication only works when I'm connected to the network.  Is there any way around this?09:37
huraxoh just a spammer09:37
profoX`pffff again ._.09:37
sethkDon_jr, you can probably do it there, but I have no idea how.  xchat does exist for windows, I believe.09:37
synicDon_jr: http://www.silverex.org09:37
exsUmm, now that the spammer went.. Is there any software for ubuntu for my sony ericsson mobile phone?09:37
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shaantanu!pastebin09:37
Rondomgrrrrr.....09:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:37
Don_jrI'm lookin09:37
profoX`I'm receiving chinese spam -_-'09:37
SeveasprofoX`, from who?09:37
raphinkthanks for reacting so promptly Seveas09:37
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s_h_a_d_o_w_s[ut in the ubuntu cd in while windowz ism uning09:37
Don_jrdownloading now09:38
profoX`Seveas: I don't know - didn't check - I meant on my email ;)09:38
sethkI wish I knew why I'm missing the spam so I could do it on purpose  :)09:38
profoX`not on IRC09:38
Seveasheh ;)09:38
Rondomthere was someone mass-pinging some hours ago, wasn't he?09:38
richiefrichSeveas ty man09:38
nickd2anyone know why my amd64 install hangs on configuring ubununtu-minimal?09:38
yawn9the walkthroughs say to use "wget http://openwrt.inf.fh-brs.de/~nbd/wl_apsta.o" but since my wifi isn't working, naturally i cant use wget. so i try to get it from firefox on windows and they have a redirect on it where you can only download it from wget. ugh.09:38
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Ash-Fox!kops09:38
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!09:38
sethknickd2, no, I've not seen that09:38
yawn9can someone download that file and send it to me?09:38
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DBOoh hes gone...09:38
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rambo3how do i fix xorg , i get that ABI and no drivers found EE09:38
SeveasDBO, everything's under control ;)09:38
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Brushwell!ops09:39
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!09:39
BrushwellxD09:39
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DBOSeveas, when you are here NOTHING is under control =P  (btw, nice speed on that ban)09:39
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MAisEi mah tu t a?09:39
Don_jrokay, brb09:39
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eXistenZHow can I know the size of a trip?09:39
yawn9can someone run wget wget http://openwrt.inf.fh-brs.de/~nbd/wl_apsta.o and send me the file? they have a redirect on it where you can't download it from a browser and i don't have access to wget yet09:39
SeveasMAis, english please09:39
eXistenZs/trip/folder09:39
profoX`DBO: he's an expert at these things09:40
Seveas!br09:40
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:40
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sethkeXistenZ, du -sh09:40
SeveasprofoX`, so is DBO ;) (but let's not go offtopic here)09:40
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Linuturk_codeo, so if we need help, we can use that ops command, sweet :)09:40
eyequeueeXistenZ, example:  du -h /home09:40
profoX`lol -- right :)09:40
rambo3how do i fix xorg , i get that ABI and no drivers found EE09:40
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DBOLinuturk_code, yes, but please dont abuse it, it rather annoys us if you just press it for no reason09:40
profoX`Linuturk_code: only for help with trolls / spammers etc.09:40
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eyequeue!xorgfix09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:40
sethkeyequeue, -sh  to get the total only09:40
profoX`!xorgbug09:40
Don_jrokay, in xchat now09:40
ubotuIf X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')09:40
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phreakyshm, alt bug is fixed with the update now09:41
Linuturk_codeDBO, profoX` of course, I wouldn't do that09:41
eXistenZeyequeue, but that would list all the folders inside the folder. How can I get the size of the folder itself?09:41
eyequeuesethk, true, and i like -hcs /home/* for a per-user, and a summary09:41
sethkeXistenZ, du -sh09:41
Don_jrquite the difference from what I was on.....09:41
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eyequeueeXistenZ, sethk is correct09:41
g333k_workHi I cant open synaptic, either the network admin, I receive this error message: Couldnt copy the user's Xautorization file.09:41
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eXistenZeyequeue, sethk, Thank you09:41
abonillaHi, Is XGL in Dapper or now on Edgy>?09:41
yasserwhen i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???09:41
Qballremove executable bit09:41
oiad_selber emo09:42
abonillaI just saw some karroro or so Live CD and is awesome.09:42
eyequeueeXistenZ, but as a future reference, "man du" will give all the options, try it with any command you wonder about09:42
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profoX`abonilla: karroro? :)09:42
shaantanuguys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157209:42
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synicabonilla: xgl is pretty easy to set up in dapper09:42
yasserwhen i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???09:42
eyequeue!xgl > abonilla09:42
abonillaprofoX`: dunno09:42
nox-Hand&quit09:42
eXistenZeyequeue, I didn't know the command du, that's why I had to know ;p09:42
chucklesyea, but compiz sure aint09:42
aluno__CABEA DE BILA09:42
Don_jrinstall is almost finished on the ubuntu box09:42
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profoX`abonilla: #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl09:42
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synicabonilla: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=38909:42
Seveasaluno__, english only here (and no caps lock)09:42
aluno__FALA CABEA09:42
Seveas!br09:42
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:42
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:42
eyequeueeXistenZ, sure, no prob :)09:42
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aluno__VOCE FALA BRASILEIRO09:43
abonillasynic: is it too heavy?09:43
shaantanuguys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157209:43
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synicabonilla: too heavy?09:43
yasserwhen i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???09:43
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eyequeueSeveas, is that ban format including a redirect-if-join channel?  clever09:44
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abonillasynic: I mean, heavy for the video card, cpu etc09:44
sethkyasser, set the desktop file associations09:44
abonillasynic: would it be easier if on Edgy?09:44
Sjoerd-yasser: clear ff cache first09:44
Seveaseyequeue, yes, it's one of the more clever things on freenode09:44
sethkyou redirect them to a channel you hate?09:44
synicabonilla: what card do you have?09:44
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eyequeuesethk, lol09:44
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yassersethk, aint it already set that html files open with firefox?09:44
g333k_workHi, any clue when receiving this error message: "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." ??09:44
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abonillasynic: embedded on a P4 box. Intel Graphics, 715 or so. This is work PC09:45
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tarombguys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157209:45
synicabonilla: oh, I dunno... you do need a fairly decent 3d card09:45
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abonillasynic:  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL09:45
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sethkyasser, from your description, no09:45
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Linuturk_codetarbomb, don't keep pasting the same question over and over please09:45
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Seveas!repeat > tarbomb09:45
synicabonilla: it works fine on my ati xpress 200m, but I don't know how that compares09:45
abonillasynic: OK, but is it easuer on Edgy>?09:45
yassersethk, i see....but its a fresh install and i tweaked nothin...09:46
synicabonilla: dunno, I've only tried dapper.09:46
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kling0nany suggestions for removing all packages (using --purge) except base-system in one command?09:46
oiad_selber emo09:46
tarbomb!patience09:46
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:46
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kakoghmm gnome sure is different....09:46
finalbeta!font09:46
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto09:46
kakoghow do i customize gnome?09:46
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abonillasynic: works fine?09:47
Dial_tonegconf-editor09:47
synicabonilla: yeah09:47
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kakogi want to change the location of the buttons and behaviour of the window- titlebars just like in KDE09:47
Don_jrOh no....installer at 97% says "cleaning up.."  And nothing is happening.........09:47
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synickakog: system->preferences->theme09:47
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kakogsynic: all i can do there is to change how it looks09:48
Linuturk_codekakog, try right clicking. You can do a lot from the context menu09:48
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phreakyshm weird. all themes in compiz have their button rollovers wrongly placed09:48
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Linuturk_codekakog, middle click and hold, and you can move panels09:48
UKMattWhat's the difference between GTK, Metacity and GDM09:48
synickakog: kakog click on "theme details" - you can change the "controls" look09:49
ardchoillekakog: To change the titlebar buttons, Open the gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general, find button_layout and rearrange the key.09:49
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Don_jrif the install freezes at 'clean up' it's still not going to be bootable eh?09:49
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synicDon_jr: hah, depends on what it was doing at the time :)09:49
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kakogsynic: all i can change is the control, icons, and window borders09:50
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kakogin that menu09:50
Don_jrsays "select and install software" at 97%"  'cleaning up..'  and appears to be stuck09:50
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tarbombguys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157209:50
synickakog: afaik, the button location is determined by the control theme.09:50
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kakogok09:50
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ardchoillesynic: You can change the arrangement of the buttons in the metacity stuff in gconf-editor09:51
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ardchoillekakog: To change the titlebar buttons, Open the gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general, find button_layout and rearrange the key.09:51
synicardchoille: ah, cool.09:51
abaddonbooting from usb failing anyone want to help?09:51
phreakyswonder if it's possible to have multiple workspaces in cgwd (like different desktop icons/background)09:51
kakogardchoille: i dont got gconf-edito yet.. 2sec09:51
anthony_I just installed the ati drivers.  how can I get the screen resolution to 1280 x 800 ?09:51
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StonebreakerHello. I have two machines. One with ubuntu but not internet connection, and one with internet connection but with winXP. I want to install gcc and g++ in the ubuntu machine? How will I do that?09:52
ardchoillekakog: gconf-editor is a nice tool to have, IMHO09:52
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Linuturk_codeyeah, can you have different backgrounds on each workspace in gnome?09:52
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phreakyswould be nice. doesnt that depend on cgwd?09:52
DBOLinuturk_code, how does no work for you?09:52
bienvenido_i want donwload the cibercontrol for linux ubunto09:52
SpaceKebabyeah it does depend on cgwd09:52
ardchoillekakog: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor ?09:53
Linuturk_codeDBO, it's not life or death, but I'd like a yes, if you do this . . .09:53
SpaceKebabi think they're working on a plugin for it ?09:53
phreakysill google some. let you know if i find some09:53
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Don_jrokay, gonna try and reboot and see if the install took since it froze up09:53
DBOLinuturk_code, well the answer is no, it doesnt...09:53
[wX] sk3wlI just installed ubuntu 6.06 it never prompted for a user name09:53
abaddonbooting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?09:53
[wX] sk3wlis there a default?09:53
segerstromjoin/ #kubuntu09:53
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DBO[wX] sk3wl, try ubuntu, if not simply boot into single user mode and check what it is in /etc/passwd09:54
kakogardchoille: how do i get it to be on the left side of the titlebar?09:54
Don_jrDAMN, I'm never going to get this installed09:54
UKMatthow do you add a mouse theme?09:54
kakogDon_jr: just cancel and redo it09:54
Don_jroh well, gotta go, have a good one09:54
[wX] sk3wlDidn't work...09:54
Don_jrgonna try, again kakog, I"ve done it a few times already09:54
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Don_jrBBL09:55
bienvenido_me pueden ayudar a buscar un cibercontrol para linux ubuntu09:55
Stonebreakerso? any help please?09:55
eyequeue!es > bienvenido_09:55
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emshi09:55
[wX] sk3wlDBO how do you boot to single user?09:55
segerstromhi09:55
kakogwhy is changing theese things such an hassle in gnome still... i think ill go back to kde again...09:55
emshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww nice video!09:55
ardchoillekakog: the normal layout is blah,blah:minimize,maximize,close the ":" is the seperator. You can do blah,blah,minimize,maximize:close to put everything except the max button on the right09:55
DBO[wX] sk3wl, just choose recovery mode from GRUB09:55
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emsWe own the industry09:55
ardchoilleopps, I meant the left09:55
[wX] sk3wlkk h/o09:55
Linuturk_codeDBO, how about in edgy? or is that gnome specific?09:55
kakogaaah thanks ardchoille09:56
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ardchoillekakog: You're welcome :)09:56
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DBOLinuturk_code, thats a gnome thing, there is a compiz plugin that does it for nautilus... but that is very hackish right now09:56
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Stonebreakerplease, some help09:56
abaddonbooting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?09:56
edjuIsn't there a cli x configurator?  Display's all messed up.09:56
segerstromexit09:57
bienvenido_de donde puedo bajar el cibercontrol para linux ubuntu09:57
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eyequeueStonebreaker, okay, i'll give you the concept that will apply to any packages09:57
Linuturk_codeDBO, are the gnome dev's planning on adding that feature? I don't like hackish, it tends to break09:57
Stonebreakerok, thanks09:57
Stonebreakereyequeue, ok, thanks09:57
cjonesafter i upgrade to dapper my screes res sucks and i cant change it can i find a back up xorg config file and try to run it ?09:57
JimmeyI've got a Windows 98 box connected to my laptop via ethernet cable. The laptop's wirelessly connected to my router. Can I share my laptop's internet connection with the Windows 98 box?09:57
kakogardchoille: one more question, how do i make the windows minimize when i double click, lower on right click, and minimize/maximize when scrolling the mouse wheel?09:57
kakogJimmey:09:58
DBOLinuturk_code, actually they REMOVED the feature...  figured it was too confusing or some such, yes I dont agree either09:58
kakogJimmey:  yes09:58
frying_fishJimmey: yes.09:58
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kakogJimmey: just use internet sharing09:58
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[wX] sk3wlHow are the computers linked? Jimmey09:58
frying_fishuse dhcpd, and set up iptables well and it will do it.09:58
JimmeyEthernet cable09:58
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[wX] sk3wlCrossover?09:58
emsmad ubuntu video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww09:58
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Linuturk_codeDBO, I'd better go talk to them about this . . .09:58
Linuturk_code;p09:58
JimmeyI could just setup the Windows 98 computer to have a static IP address though, right? How do I enable internet connection sharing?09:59
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abaddonbooting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?09:59
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eyequeueStonebreaker, on the ubuntu box, type "apt-cache depends build-esential"  and write down the list of dependencies, plus the package name itself.  then, on your net-cnnected box, you d/l them each from http://packages.ubuntu.com, then sneakernet them over to the ubuntu box09:59
ardchoillekakog: Metacity is the default window manager in gnome and I don't think metacity can do those things. Metacity is very limited and that is why lots of folks switch to another wm in gnome.09:59
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frying_fishJimmey: you could set up static ip indeed.09:59
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Stonebreakereyequeue, ok, thanks09:59
kakogardchoille: what wm can do it then?09:59
[wX] sk3wlyah09:59
edjucli x configurator?  what is it?  anybody?09:59
frying_fishand if thereis no switch inbetween they will need a crossover cable.09:59
Jimmeyfrying_fish, my Laptop's local IP address is 192.168.1.19909:59
cjoneshow do i load a old xorg config ?09:59
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_tccAny reason when I try to play an AVI the program crashes?10:00
sethkedju, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:00
JimmeyHow can I make the Windows 98 box see my laptop, with just an ethernet cable10:00
Stonebreakereyequeue, the ubuntu box never had internet connection, how will it know the dependencies?10:00
eyequeueStonebreaker, from there, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb for each of them, you can put them all on one line, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb bar.deb baz.deb10:00
ardchoillekakog: Check out http://xwinman.org  for a nice list of window manager with descriptions10:00
sethkcjones, copy it to /etc/X1110:00
frying_fishJimmey: it will need to be a crossover cable10:00
Stonebreakereyequeue, ok, thanks10:00
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sethkcjones, if one is already there, back it up first10:00
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Jimmeyfrying_fish, what's one of those?10:00
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frying_fishand then set them both to have IP addresses, then just go about pinging each of them.10:00
BlueLagun1does apt keep a log, and if so, where?10:00
edjusethk,  Thanks a lot.10:00
Stonebreakereyequeue, but the .deb packages will be near a hundrend10:00
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eyequeueStonebreaker, well, it will know them for the Pacakges.gz file it had from the cd, others it won't, you;ll have to rely on that web site10:00
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sethkfrying_fish, for most machines these days it will auto detect the cabling and compensate, so usually you can use a straight cable10:01
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Stonebreakerok, thanks10:01
_tccWhy might I not be able to play AVI files?10:01
_tccAt all?10:01
eyequeueStonebreaker, let me list them for you, for that, right here.   sec10:01
Jimmeysethk, I've got a bog standard ethernet cable.10:01
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frying_fishsethk: yes for most, but if he is running a box that is old enough to still have win 98 then likely hood is it wont10:01
bluefox83ok, what is the next higher resolution above 1024x768?10:01
abaddonbooting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?10:01
cjonessethk ok you have to walk me thru on this iam a newb but i just upgraded to dapper and now the best res i can get is like 600x80010:01
sethkfrying_fish, possible10:01
richiefrichcjones u get them apps?10:01
eyequeueStonebreaker, Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.0), g++ (>= 4:4.0), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5)10:01
Jimmeyfrying_fish, I'll try and get Dapper on it, but I can't get to the BIOS screen :(10:01
sethkcjones, when you get to the part about resolutions, choose the middle option.  then see what resolutions it believes your hardware is capable of.10:01
vgtlhi, is there a ppc specific ubuntu channel ?10:01
owen_has anyone tried installing the gaim 2.0 beta 3 from source forge?10:01
cjonesrichiefrich winch ones ?10:02
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garrett_is it actually possible to get totem-gstreamer to play wmv? - it just won't work for me10:02
Stonebreakereyequeue, but they depend on others, too10:02
richiefrichcjones the im's10:02
Stonebreakereyequeue, btw thx for the listing10:02
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eyequeueStonebreaker, sure10:02
_tccJimmey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_cable10:02
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richiefrichcjones  bitlbee or  centericq10:02
Stonebreakerso, I will need also their list10:02
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Stonebreakereyequeue, ?10:02
garrett_totem sucks !10:03
cjonesrichiefrich ive got bitlbee but still working on centerirc10:03
richiefrichcjones nice u like them10:03
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ardchoille!openbox10:03
ubotuopenbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome10:03
Stonebreakereyequeue, so, I will see each dependency?10:03
_tccWhy can I not play AVI filles?10:03
meisamhi guys...this is really urgent..please help me...im installing the EnterpriseDB...but the installer needs me to have the administrative privilage ...how can i have thta on dapper?10:03
cjonesrichiefrich i havent played with them much10:03
_tccEvery time I try and play an AVI the application crashes.10:03
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Stonebreakereyequeue, I can't do his by hand. each dependency has many other dependencies, which have others, etc10:03
sethkmeisam, do   sudo passwd      to set the root password.   then use su10:03
JimmeyGuys, I've got an ADSL router downstairs - Would using that help any?10:04
JimmeyI mean, a spare one.10:04
frying_fishJimmey: greatly10:04
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Stonebreakereyequeue, it will take me weeks to complete that10:04
[wX] sk3wlLol10:04
_tccYou could make a bridge.10:04
frying_fishjust plug them both into that and then they should see each other much easier.10:04
kakog!openbox10:04
eyequeueStonebreaker, two more lines    Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.3-1), gcc (>= 4:4.0.3-1), g++-4.0 (>= 4.0.3), gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.3)Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.3-1), gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.3)10:04
ubotuopenbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome10:04
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abaddonbooting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?10:04
ardchoillekakog: If you're interested in switching window managers in gnome, have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome10:04
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bbrazilStonebreaker: apt-zip10:04
_tcc!avi10:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:04
eyequeueStonebreaker, Depends: dpkg (>= 1.13.1), perl5, perl-modules, cpio (>= 2.4.2-2), patch (>= 2.2-1), make, binutils10:04
richiefrichabaddon can u boot from usb ?10:04
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eyequeueStonebreaker, that should cover you10:04
Stonebreakerbbrazil, please, could you help  me om apt-zip ?10:04
richiefrichabaddon your bios lets u ?10:04
eXistenZHow can I enable root?10:04
eXistenZ!root10:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:05
bbrazilStonebreaker: I've never used it10:05
shaantanuI ran out of space on my root partition .. somebody help10:05
abaddonyes my bios does10:05
cjonessethk it will only let me select 640x480 @60hz i just want to go back to the xorg of brezzy10:05
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Stonebreakereyequeue, I can't do this manually.10:05
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richiefrichabaddon ok then whats the error ?10:05
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varsendaggrshaantanu, what can you do?10:05
sethkcjones, it must have not properly identified either your video card or your monitor10:05
richiefrichabaddon does grub/lilo load ?10:05
DaiferasHow does one create a wireless network with the network manager? Just put in a network name that isn't already there?10:05
abaddonI am booting to the point where it says mounting root filesystem and then it oes back to the syslinux screen10:05
Stonebreakereyequeue, I will need apt-zip10:05
DaiferasOh, I need it to be ad-hoc too.10:05
varsendaggrgo to tigerdirect.com and buy a new HD10:05
meisamsethk : thats all?10:05
sethkcjones, I'm staying with breezy for a few weeks more10:05
eyequeueStonebreaker, perhaps getting connectivity, at least temporariy, will need to become the priority10:05
richiefrichabaddon then u need to edit your /etc/fstab10:06
_tccfrying_fish, His NIC might support an internal crossover mechanism.10:06
eyequeueStonebreaker, ah10:06
Stonebreakerbbrazil, so, you can't help me with apt-zip10:06
sethkmeisam, yes, that's all you need to do, unless I didn't understand the question properly10:06
abaddonI don't have ubuntu installed yet10:06
bbrazilStonebreaker: no10:06
Stonebreakereyequeue, can you help me with apt-zip ?10:06
[wX] sk3wlwats the default username in Drake, it never prompted me for one during inst.10:06
abaddonI am trying to install it via usb (don't have cd drive)10:06
richiefrichabaddon err then what are u booting ?10:06
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richiefrichPXE10:06
richiefrich:P10:06
varsendaggrak all of my mp3's that i am ripping are like 30 gigs how do i make them smaller10:06
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sethk[wX] sk3wl, try oem10:06
c3030Is there way to start GNOME without GDM?10:07
[wX] sk3wlkk lemme reboot the lappy10:07
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abaddon<richiefrich> I am booting ubuntu using these instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick10:07
Stonebreakereyequeue, please? :)10:07
eyequeueStonebreaker, i just read the description of it ... i think you may have a problem10:07
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holycowwtf?10:07
yawn9now it's telling me invalid access point. ugh10:07
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holycowdoesn't the dapper cd recognize windows installations?10:07
abaddon<richiefrich> my journey so far is described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1417670#post141767010:08
Stonebreakereyequeue, (I also have an ubuntu machine, elsewhere)10:08
sethkholycow, yes10:08
frying_fishholycow: it does, eventually.10:08
holycowit insists on reformatting / mounting the damned partition10:08
varsendaggrholycow, nope10:08
_tccWhat the hell, that gave me no information about AVI, why is this failing?10:08
emsmad ubuntu video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww10:08
_tccI cannot play AVI files at all.10:08
Stonebreakereyequeue, which has internet connection10:08
eyequeueStonebreaker, it generates a fetch script, but your connected box is ms, and i don't think it can run wget and lftp commands10:08
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frying_fishholycow: doubtul that it insists10:08
c3030Can I run Gnome without GDM? Do I need to write a start script?10:08
frying_fishthats just its default and you can change it.10:08
eyequeueStonebreaker, ah, that will work then10:08
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_tccAnyone?10:08
_tccCan anyone help?10:08
[wX] sk3wlvarsendaggr try compressing the mp3's or using a different bit rate10:08
Stonebreakereyequeue, ok, tell me then :-)10:08
holycowfrying_fish, it wants me to select a mount point for it ... it can't have a mount point its a windows partition10:08
emsc3030: startx10:08
frying_fishc3030: if you don't have any other window managers startx would do it.10:08
BlueLagun1is there anyway to easily undo the last apt-get upgrade?10:08
eyequeueStonebreaker, let me get you the dependencies for apt-zip10:08
frying_fishholycow: it can have a mount point10:08
lordhelmetis there a file that dictates the groups network users are part of upon login?10:08
varsendaggrstartx /usr/bin/gnome10:09
emsc3030: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww10:09
frying_fishyou *can* read ntfs in linux10:09
holycowfrying_fish, what should that  be set to the n?10:09
Stonebreakereyequeue, both two machined have apt-zip10:09
eyequeueStonebreaker, oh lol!  "depends: apt" heh10:09
Stonebreaker*machines10:09
CalJohnems: youtube.  not everyone has flash ;)10:09
frying_fishholycow: whatever you want it to be10:09
holycowyes but ntfs is not an option in the installer for the mount10:09
[wX] sk3wlsethk, dude it worked thx bro10:09
frying_fishjust don't tell it to format.10:09
abaddonsomeone should kick ems for spamming10:09
sethk[wX] sk3wl, np10:09
frying_fishholycow: you tell it to leave it alone and just mount it.10:09
emsabaddon: why?10:09
holycowit doesn't want to leave it alone10:09
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holycowit wants to select a mount point10:09
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frying_fishthen you are doing soemthing *wrong*10:09
abaddonyour video isn't about ubuntu10:09
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sethkholycow, one of the "mount points" is do not use10:10
DaiferasHow do you broadcast a wireless ad-hoc network?10:10
frying_fishselecting a mount point isn't going to format it.10:10
holycowno i'm clicking on the frickin next icon10:10
Stonebreakeranyway microsoft is bette\] '10:10
holycowthere isn't much to do wrong10:10
Stonebreakerno10:10
Stonebreakerscrap10:10
emsabaddon: bs10:10
StonebreakerI didn't wrote this10:10
Stonebreaker:P10:10
meisamsethk : see it did not work..i explain again..i have downloaded the package as EnterpriseDB, (thats ORDBMS), i extracted that, there was an read me over there, i read that, then i run the double click on the bin it showed me a window by asking run in terminal, then i press OK. then it was about to launch but it did not , actually it was launched but only there was an error saying , you have no administrative privilage...10:10
Stonebreakeri did10:10
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emsabaddon: did you even watch it?10:10
Stonebreakerlol10:10
abaddonyes10:10
_tccHello?10:10
shaantan1?nick tarbomb10:10
abaddonall your fakes are belong to us10:10
frying_fishao when you have selected a mount point (and just pick one) what does it give next.10:10
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_tccWhy might i not be able to play AVI files all of a sudden?10:10
c3030varsendaggr: /usr/bin/gnome doesn't exist10:10
_tccDo i need a codec or somehting?10:10
emsabaddon: try watching it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww10:10
_tccanyone?10:10
emsabaddon: it is about ubuntu10:11
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CalJohn_tcc: what player?10:11
_tccEvery player.10:11
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_tccNothing can play AVI.10:11
CalJohn_tcc: vlc?10:11
abaddonems: wtf does zero wing have to do with ubuntu10:11
frying_fish_tcc: vlc, use vlc.10:11
eyequeueStonebreaker, i was just reading "man apt-zip" (which you should too, it seems to explain it well) and it sounds pretty nifty10:11
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_tccVLC does not play.10:11
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lupine_85use kaffeine or mplayer10:11
emsabaddon: ooops sorry wrong link10:11
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varsendaggrc3030    well i don't know10:11
emsabaddon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQYhtPskEM10:11
lupine_85both work here10:11
_tccNone of them work.10:11
CalJohn_tcc: what are you testing it on?10:11
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c3030varsendaggr: thanks anyway10:12
CalJohn_tcc: are you certain it's a correct avi?10:12
shaantan1I ran out of space on my root partition waht to do ??10:12
abaddonems: much better10:12
richiefrichabaddon whats on there now?10:12
_tccCalJohn, yes I am testing it on EVERY player I have.10:12
richiefrichabaddon windowsZ?10:12
abaddonon where? my thumb drive?10:12
_tccIt doesn't work on any of them.10:12
abaddonyes10:12
xer0i was wondering if anybody could help me with getting vmware-player working correctly.  for some reason it keeps messing up on the install.  i had vmware installed before and it worked fine, then stopped working so i uninstalled it and am trying to get it loaded again10:12
CalJohn_tcc: are you certain the file isn't broken10:12
meisamsethk : u r there?10:12
lupine_85shaatan: you can clear some space temporarily by getting rid of your cached packages10:12
richiefrichabaddon boot to that10:12
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holycowfrying_fish, nothing10:12
_tccnot unless all 10 of these are broken10:12
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sethkmeisam, yes10:12
_tccand i remember playing it a while ago10:12
CalJohn_tcc: try another avi10:12
holycowfrying_fish, it wants to mount it as /var/usr/boot10:12
richiefrichabaddon then.. install cygwin10:12
shaantan1lupine : how to do that10:12
CalJohnthat one file could be broken10:13
abaddonI am in windows I have no other os installed10:13
richiefrichabaddon  then install from there10:13
shaantan1lupine : I want a solution for the long run10:13
lupine_85long-term solution is to increase the size of the partition10:13
meisamsethk did u see my last message?10:13
holycowdoes not let you click past with an empty selection10:13
shaantan1lupin : I m planning to install vmware10:13
sethkmeisam, no, sorry10:13
fdisk_hye10:13
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frying_fishholycow: choose something else.10:13
xer0it was giving me /dev/vmmon errors and when i modprobed vmmon it wasnt there, and i know very little about kernel type stuff10:13
eyequeueshaantan1, make one, mount it on /dummy, cp everything from /usr/ to /dummy, and tell fstab that the "dummy" is to be mounted on /usr, then mv /usr to /usrold and reboot10:13
lupine_85ok, go to /var/cache/apt/archives10:13
frying_fishor, tell it to not use it for now10:13
holycowfrying_fish, you can't choose anything else10:13
meisamsethk : see it did not work..i explain again..i have downloaded the package as EnterpriseDB, (thats ORDBMS), i extracted that, there was an read me over there, i read that, then i run the double click on the bin it showed me a window by asking run in terminal, then i press OK. then it was about to launch but it did not , actually it was launched but only there was an error saying , you have no administrative privilage...10:13
meisam<Stonebreaker> i did10:13
[wX] sk3wllol10:13
lupine_85and delete all the .deb files10:13
_tccCalJohn, it plays in kaffiene10:13
_tccbut i don't see video10:13
_tcclol10:13
eyequeueshaantan1, when it all tests out okay, you can rm -rf /usrold10:13
shaantan1lupine: this does what10:13
eXistenZI stopped a process, how can I resume it10:14
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CalJohn_tcc: sounds like you're missing codecs.  use mplayer to figure out what streams are in to10:14
holycowfrying_fish, you can't tell it to use nothing it wont let you10:14
CalJohn_tcc: in it10:14
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eugmanHey anyone here have a samsung mp3 player? My coising has one and i want to know if i can get music onto it.10:14
holycowthats what i'm getting at10:14
frying_fishI'm fairly sure it does,10:14
sethkmeisam, if you need to run it that way, you'll have to start the file browser as root.  Otherwise, bring up a root terminal and type the command in.10:14
holycowfrying_fish, i'm looking at it right now10:14
holycowit doesn't10:14
frying_fishit did when I installed anyway10:14
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frying_fishsince I had it mount my windows partitions fine.10:14
eyequeueshaantan1, mine was a longerterm fix, but yes, deleting everything you don't need is a good shortterm one10:14
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Teknoeniehi all10:14
holycowthen someone updated the installer images because it doesn't now10:14
Teknoenieanyone here a v4l guru?10:14
xer0eh fuck this im goin back 2 windows10:15
_tccCalJohn huh?10:15
meisamsethk :what command should i type?10:15
holycowthere is no need to mount windows partitions anyway, just add them to the bootloader10:15
W8TAHhi folks - there is an package of software that needs to be installed to be able to compile stuff from source -- someone told me several months ago what it was, but i cant recall the name - can someone help me out please?10:15
eyequeueshaantan1, did "sudo apt-get clean" get mentioned yet?10:15
sethkmeisam, whatever command you are clicking on10:15
frying_fishholycow: sure its useful to mount them10:15
shaantan1eyeque : no10:15
eobanbW8TAH, that would be build-essential10:15
CalJohn_tcc: mplayer will say what streams are in it when it tries to play it.  otherwise it will give some kind of error10:15
eugman!build-essential10:15
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:15
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shaantan1eyeque: cud u talk to me in PM10:15
W8TAHeobanb, thank you very much10:15
frying_fishIf you have certain things on them that you would like read access to, or if they are fat3210:15
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eyequeueshaantan1, easy way to get rid of old deb files10:15
CalJohn_tcc: you might need a verbose flag10:15
holycowfrying_fish, i'm not a newb dude, this installer is just borked.  i needed to confirm im not imagining that its this borked10:15
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shaantan1eyequeue : ok will do that10:16
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frying_fishholycow: then go use the alternate cd if you need something different.10:16
lupine_85when you install something using apt-get or synaptic, it saves the package file in that directory10:16
lupine_85it doesn't need the package file10:16
lupine_85in fact, it'll only ever use it if you re-install that piece of software10:16
lupine_85but it saves it anyway10:16
holycowah that was my next question10:16
lupine_85Mine is 600MB at the moment10:16
lupine_85(to find out, run du -hs)10:16
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lupine_85<-(in the directory)10:16
cjonesrichiefrich what was the secend one again ?10:16
_tccCalJohn, grr, what am I finding out?10:16
_tccThe files play for about 1 second and crash.10:16
holycowfrying_fish, what is this alternate cd stuff i seen up on the ftps?  does it offer the old di ?10:16
richiefrichcjones  bitlbee or  centericq10:17
frying_fishits a text based installer still10:17
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CalJohn_tcc: paste the error10:17
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eyequeuelupine_85, apt-get autoclean to save only the most recent version, apt-get clean to get rid of them all, if interested10:17
holycowperfect, i know di works10:17
CalJohn_tcc: (in a pastebin!)10:17
lupine_85ah, the automatic methods :)10:17
bociekhi all10:17
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x19771does anyone know anything about Grub?10:17
lupine_85 existenz: type 'fg'10:18
eXistenZlupine_85,thanks10:18
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eyequeuex19771, most here could say yes, but ask what you need and see who knows that part10:18
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_tccCalJohn. http://pastebin.ca/14799810:18
CalJohn_tcc: it looks like your avi file contains some weird stream10:18
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CalJohn_tcc: thanks10:19
shaantan1eyequueue : read the PM10:19
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shaantan1plz respond10:19
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CalJohn_tcc: here's the issue.  that's a weirdass video format10:19
x19771cool, ty,, basically, i was told that modifying my grub's "menu.list" would help my computer load ubuntu... (when i fire up the compy, i have to use the boot menu to get the OS to load,, and my bios is no help)10:19
CalJohn_tcc: I never even heard of it before10:20
bluefox83ok..for some reason my sound system is going wierd on me..only one speaker is working plus the bass...10:20
CalJohn_tcc: "TechSmith Camtasia Screen Codec (native)" means this is somewhat weird10:20
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_tccCalJohn, ah, what the hell10:20
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cjonesrichiefrich i am installing it tight now10:21
richiefrichkowl10:21
eyequeuedoes anyone here hate zope? :)  looking for any negatives, while considering it (and of course their site won't list any)10:21
holycoweyequeue, just google10:21
CalJohn_tcc: you should ask on #mplayer whether they have any idea whether that is supported.  that's definately a very weird format.10:21
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CalJohn_tcc: i have a hunch that playback of that format isn't possible, and hence the error10:22
eyequeueholycow, ah true, the great complaint department of the internet, filed :)10:22
shaantan1anybody else ?? plz help me ... I ran out of space on my root partition .. what cud be done ...I have uninstalled all useless packs. I have 10 GB free space on my system. Can it be used10:22
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_tccCalJohn, ah alright10:22
holycowplenty of people besides me hate zope10:22
sethkshaantan1, sure.10:22
sethkshaantan1, 10 gigs is a lot10:22
shaantan1sethk : how can I use that10:22
CalJohn_tcc: sorry I can't help more.  is it some kind of webcam stream?10:22
eyequeueshaantan1, it might squeak by with 10 gb, unless you're into grabbing huge videos10:22
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eyequeueshaantan1, but apt-get clean regularly and such10:22
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jkleinhanswhat does link quality:0 mean on a iwconfig result on ubuntu platform?10:23
shaantan1my root is only 4.5 GB10:23
lordhelmeti need ldap users logging into ubuntu clients to be part of group 'plugdev'. is there anyway to do it on the clients without messing with ldap?10:23
_tccCalJohn, it10:23
eyequeueholycow, i rejected it based upon space intially, now i may have more space10:23
shaantan1sethk: how to integrate that free space on my ubuntu10:23
CalJohn_tcc: the version of mplayer in ubuntu must be very old.  pre7try2 is over a year old.  the situation could have changed10:23
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JoseStefanhow can i make my x errors prettier, "when" i do get an X error, it shows up as partially garbled text, like if it was using an unsupported charset10:23
_tccCalJohn, let me try all the players i'll see if one works on those10:24
eyequeueshaantan1, you'll probably manage, but i have some advice for the future10:24
shaantan1sethk : I was also planning on VMware for my windows XP. So I guess I need to have space10:24
_tccCalJohn, the one i have here really is an avi10:24
_tccit seems to play fine10:24
shaantan1eyequeue: thats k , thanx10:24
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sethkshaantan1, do you mean you have 10 gigs on another partition available?10:24
JimmeyHey again.10:24
shaantan1ya10:24
JimmeyMy Windows 98 box can ping my Laptop, and vice versa10:24
lordhelmetanybody? add ldap users to group?10:24
JimmeyBut my 98 box can't see past my laptop.10:24
CalJohn_tcc: not all avi's are equal.  avi is just a container format for video and audio streams.  if the stream isn't supported, it can't be played :(10:24
JimmeyI've tried pinging google's IP10:24
eyequeueshaantan1, unless /home is on a separate partition, start backing it up to media, because you won't have room for a dist-upgrade to the edgy release, you'll be stuck doing a fresh install10:25
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_tccCalJohn, ahhh, I'm not a format master.10:25
xepheranyone know of a program to connect to a razr v3 under linux?10:25
sethkshaantan1, I would probably put an ext3 file system on that 10 gig, and copy the /usr tree to it, then delete the current /usr tree, and mount the partition as /usr10:25
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shaantan1nothing to do wid /home10:25
shaantan1??10:25
sethkshaantan1, you can move /home there also10:25
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eyequeuesethk, oddly enough, i gave him that advice (and details) earlier, heh10:25
shaantan1eyequeue: what do u suggest10:25
CalJohn_tcc: yeah, it can be pretty confusing I imagine :)10:26
xephermoto4lin, got it10:26
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sethkeyequeue, smart man  :)10:26
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eyequeueshaantan1, well, i just meant you'll lose everything if you reinstall ... what i suggest is this ... "sudo du -hcs /" and see which of those main dirs has the most under it10:26
depihi. is it possible to set in XGL to switch windows in backwards? because alt+tab + shift doesnt works10:26
exarkunThere are a bunch of -dbg packages which install libraries into /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/.  Does ubuntu do something special to use these automatically or am I supposed to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?10:26
shaantan1eyequeue :k10:27
eyequeueshaantan1, then move one of them to the 10 gig partition, and reboot with that being mounted there10:27
sethkexarkun, either that or play with ld.so.conf10:27
JoseStefanHow can I make my X errors prettier? "when" i do get an X error, it shows up as partially garbled text (like if it was using an unsupported charset)10:27
shaantan1temme is this of any help : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/10:27
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DrAk0anyone running photoshop on ubuntu?10:27
sethkJoseStefan, that sounds like you have some internationalization files out of sync10:27
eyequeueshaantan1, then you can rm -rf /oldusr or whatever it is, after you check that the new one works well10:27
Basswhere is a good xgl/compiz guide?10:27
JackMacOKC|AwayDrAk0: you mean gimpshop?10:27
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sethkDrAk0, it doesn't run.  unless you mean running it under wine or something like that10:28
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JoseStefansethk, How would i fix that?10:28
shaantan1eyequeue : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/10:28
exarkunOof.10:28
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DrAk0JackMacOKC, i meant phptoshop but gimpshop would be useful in case i cant make PS run10:28
exarkunI set LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the program segfaults immediately :(10:28
eyequeueshaantan1, let me see if i can fetch those first couple lines i wrpte you earlier10:28
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JackMacOKCDrAk0: yeah, gimpshop isnt bad10:28
tarbombeyequeue :k10:28
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CalJohnJackMacOKC: GIMP is better10:28
eyequeueshaantan1, make a partition, mount it on /dummy, cp everything from /usr/ to /dummy, and tell fstab that the "dummy" is to be mounted on /usr, then mv /usr to /usrold and reboot10:28
CalJohnJackMacOKC: ;)10:28
JoseStefansethk, garbled text is basicly part of the dialog box's borders, the msgs are readable10:29
tarbombeyequeue:ok10:29
sethkJoseStefan, not sure what's going on there, then10:29
DrAk0JackMacOKC, you have it running?10:29
eyequeuetarbomb, let me check out that url you pasted too10:29
tarbombk10:29
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JoseStefanbrb10:30
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eyequeuetarbomb, that is a nice tutorial, you can of course do it for /usr or /var or whatever is bog on your system10:30
eyequeuetarbomb, big10:31
tarbombok10:31
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JackMacOKCCalJohn: i don't think so, personally10:31
JimmeyI have two enabled internet interfaces, ra0 and eth0. I'm trying to ping my router, which I'm connected to, as you can see this message, but getting no response, which I assume is because it's pinging using eth0 instead of ra0. How can I ping from ra0, specifically?10:31
exarkunAlso, half the time, in vncviewer, my arrow keys don't work.  What's up with that?10:31
eyequeuetarbomb, /etc and /bin and /sbin and /lib and /root are not good to move though10:31
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lupine_85Jimmey: you shouldn't need to10:32
lupine_85check your routes10:32
JackMacOKCCalJohn: the only thing better about gimpshop is the price, but its comparable, so i use it.10:32
lupine_85(ip route show)10:32
Jimmeylupine_85, how10:32
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lupine_85run ip route show10:32
eyequeuetarbomb, nor /boot10:32
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AproximaFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO10:32
Jimmeylupine_85, right10:32
tarbombok10:32
bbrazilJimmey: man ping, answer should be there10:32
JackMacOKCalrighty then10:32
fooWhat's the name of the program that allows me to select options when I am installing packages via apt? I get a bunch of garbage on the screen.10:32
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Jimmeylupine_85, it's listing eth0 above ra010:32
lupine_85that's fine. is the IP address range for your router assigned to ra0?10:33
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bbrazilfoo: debconf?10:33
eyequeuetarbomb, (the boot process needs to be able to find certain things before other paritions are mounted, so they need to be on the / partition)10:33
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foobbrazil: Yeah, it's borked. Any ideas?10:33
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tarbombeyequeue : if I move my /home ... do my new softwares get installed on the new disk ??10:33
Jimmeylupine_85, yeah, and I'm connected to it fine10:33
bbrazilfoo: dpkg-reconfigure --pending10:33
lupine_85ok, and where does the 'default' route go to?10:33
lupine_85eth0 or ra0?10:33
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eyequeuetarbomb, your softwares are mostly under /usr and /var, a tiny bit of them under /etc10:33
Jimmeyra010:33
bbrazilfoo: might work, might not10:33
Jimmey:-S10:33
foo# dpkg-reconfigure --pending10:33
fooUnknown option: p10:33
foobbrazil: ^^ hmm10:34
tarbombcan I move them ??10:34
tarbombeyequeue :10:34
eyequeuetarbomb, /home is just your personal files and per-user configuration files for your software10:34
bbrazilfoo: there's some command like that10:34
foohmm10:34
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eyequeuetarbomb, you can move /usr and /var, but not /etc10:34
knapperIs there any other way of using Flash 9 besides wine + windows firefox?10:34
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tarbombk10:34
lupine_85 jimmey: ok, so it's not a problem with where the packets are going10:34
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bbrazilfoo: dpkg --configure --pending10:34
tarbombmoving /usr wont screw up my existing installations ??10:35
lupine_85either they're not being received, or they're not being answered10:35
tarbombeyequeue ?10:35
JackMacOKCknapper: not that i'm aware of10:35
eyequeuetarbomb, run du first to see how much you'll free up, you probably only need /usr to move10:35
lupine_85are you using the native driver, or ndiswrapper?10:35
tarbombk10:35
bbrazilfoo: that'll fix it if it's the local or termcap that happens to be messed up10:35
tarbombwhats the command ??10:35
lupine_85Or did it just set itself up automatically?10:35
knapperYeah, thats what I was affraid of10:35
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bbrazilfoo: assuming that it just needs to be finished configuring10:35
knapperwhen I start wine + firefox my screen goes completely black10:35
eyequeuetarbomb, sudo du -hcs /*10:35
Lard-O-Ladis Ship-It really free?10:35
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bbrazilLard-O-Lad: yes10:35
bluefox83is there an alsa configuration tool anywhere? for some reason one of my speakers is suddenly not getting any sound...10:35
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Jimmeylupine_85, but ever since I enabled eth0, which is connected to my Windows 98 box, I've only been able to ping the box, and not the router, nor anything else10:35
tuxtuxreboot10:35
Lard-O-Ladbbrazil, no strings attached?10:36
lupine_85so you're connected to the router, through the windows 98 box?10:36
Jimmeylupine_85, if I disable eth0, it works fine10:36
tarbombeyequeue : its checking10:36
Jimmeylupine_85, I have my laptop connected to the router via ra0. It's then connected to the 98 box via eth0, because I'm trying to share the connection10:36
Bassettshow do i install ATI drivers?10:36
lupine_85got you.10:36
JimmeyBut when I enable eth0 so I can ping the 98 box, I can't ping anything else.10:37
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eyequeuetarbomb, it's looking at every file on your box, it may take a bot10:37
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tarbombk10:37
eyequeuetarbomb, bit10:37
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lupine_85Okay, did you put eth0 in a different subnet to ra0?10:37
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Jimmeylupine_85, nope10:38
lupine_85that's your problem then10:38
tarbombeyequeue : meanwhile cud u suggest me something for my sound problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157210:38
Jimmeylupine_85, thanks.10:38
Lard-O-Lad<Bassetts> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide10:38
lupine_85what IP range are you using atm?10:38
bbrazilLard-O-Lad: nope, although they can take a while to deliver10:38
kling0n_lupine,Jimney it might be jimneys default route10:39
meisamguys how can i have admininstrative pallestine10:39
lupine_85already checked it10:39
Jimmeylupine_85, how do I change the subnet mask?10:39
JimmeyFor eth010:39
Lard-O-Ladbbrazil, cool thanks10:39
kling0n_got it :)10:39
meonecan someone help me with a slow network problem?10:39
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kling0n_meone: sign up for ADSL? :) whats the issue?10:39
meisamhello10:39
Jimmeylupine_85, would the solution be to set the 98 box's netmask to 244.244.244.0, and eth0's subnet mask to the same?10:39
lupine_85you need to put it in a different range. What range are you using for ra0? (e.g. what is the ip address you've for assigned to it?)10:39
lupine_85no, you don't want to do that10:40
tarbombeyequeue : ya its done , and yes /usr is taking up the max amt of space in my sys10:40
lupine_85a subnet mask is used to determine what network a machine is in10:40
meonei've been using linux for a lil while now and havent had any issues w/my NIC before.  any distro i use i get ~20Mb/s (on cable internet) but in windows i get ~500Mb/s10:40
rpn_hi people, i got a problem, always when i play a flashvideo (firefox), after ~10sec ther is a asynchronism (sorry for my english) :D10:40
eyequeuetarbomb, subtact that  wmount from the / total, will moving just that be enough?10:40
Jimmeylupine_85, ra0's IP is 192.168.1.199, eth0's is 192.168.1.10110:40
eyequeueamount10:40
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lupine_85OK. The subnet mask for that one will be 255.255.255.0 ?10:40
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kling0n_meone 500MB/s ?10:41
tarbombthat will be enuff ..10:41
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Jimmeylupine_85, for ra0, yeah10:41
kling0n_from where?10:41
tarbombwill yeild me 3 gigs10:41
foobbrazil: hm, that returned nothing. Maybe it fixed it. hm, thanks if it did10:41
lupine_85Change it to addresses in 192.168.0.*10:41
meoneethtool reports eth0 is at 10Mb/s but windows reports 100Mb/s10:41
eyequeuetarbomb, follow that tutorial you pasted to me, substituting /usr for /home of course10:41
lupine_85Keep the subnet mask to 255.255.255.010:41
Jimmeylupine_85, for eth0?10:41
tarbombeyequeue: but I wanna install vmware as well , and it told me to have 8 gigs free approx10:41
lupine_85no, for ra010:41
geokokhi. I updated today xserver 1.0.4 (was not affected by 1.0.3 problem) and some time later while using firefox the laptop monitor turned off completely. It was back on after restart. Any ideas?10:41
kling0n_meone might be your NIC driver10:41
kling0n_meone what is the output of ifconfig?10:42
lupine_85 erm, sorry. Yes for eth0 !!!10:42
tarbombeyequeue : moving that wont hurt my existing installs naa10:42
meonehavent had any prob's before, using fealnx on MYSON NIC10:42
rpn_hi people, i got a problem, always when i play a flashvideo (firefox), after ~10sec ther is a asynchronism (sorry for my english) :D10:42
eyequeuetarbomb, i don't know that app, but it most likely uses a lot of /usr10:42
lupine_85d'oh10:42
bbrazilfoo: really it sounds like you just need to run 'reset'10:42
tarbombeyequeue : I believe that my future installs will bein the new partition then10:42
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eyequeuetarbomb, no, if you follow that tutorial, it will safely get you set up10:42
foobbrazil: er, why didn't I think of that. Thanks.10:42
bbrazilfoo: no problem10:43
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tarbomball my future installs will be in the new /usr/bin I hope10:43
tarbombeyequeue10:43
meone# ifconfig eth010:43
meoneeth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2A:C0:96:4310:43
meoneinet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.010:43
meoneinet6 addr: fe80::202:2aff:fec0:9643/64 Scope:Link10:43
meoneUP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:110:43
meoneRX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:010:43
meoneTX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:010:43
meonecollisions:0 txqueuelen:100010:43
meoneRX bytes:2421 (2.3 KiB) TX bytes:2070 (2.0 KiB)10:43
meoneInterrupt:11 Base address:0xb40010:43
richiefrichspamm10:43
lupine_85what you're doing is putting the windows pc and eth0 interface into a different network, so that routing can work properly10:43
tarbomb!pastebin > meone10:43
kling0n_sorry about that :)10:43
meonesorry10:43
eyequeuetarbomb, ehrn you do a fresh install of edgy in a few months, first do a du and see what YOUR usage patterns are, then consider making separate partitions (with a pit fo "room to grow: of course)10:43
richiefrichdude meone pastebin10:43
lupine_85What you'll also need to do, to get internet for the Windows 98 PC, is enable IP forwarding on the linux box10:44
tarbombeyequeeu : k10:44
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bbrazilmeone: windows does some unfair stuff on packets, but nothing to explain a 12.5 times difference10:44
eyequeueargh, typo city there10:44
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geokokok....another question. I installed beagle but skipped the part that says to activate "extended attributes". It works fine. Am I missing something?10:44
lupine_85so that it knows that it's allowed to pass the packets back and forth10:44
Jimmeylupine_85, so I change eth0's IP to 192.168.0.x10:44
richiefrichtarbomb u know on your howto.. u could add --> rsync -av10:44
tarbombeyequeue : :)10:44
meonemii-tool reports eth0: 10Mbit, half dupflex, no link10:44
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lupine_85Yes - replace x with an appropriate number10:44
tarbombsteve : huh ??10:45
meoneno link? i dont get it10:45
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bbrazilmeone: that isn't even conected. Try ethtool10:45
lupine_85I always use 1 for the router (which will be your linux box in this case)10:45
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eyequeuetarbomb, and i'm no help on that sound, sorry10:45
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richiefrichtarbomb  --> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  <-- thats yours ?10:45
Jimmeylupine_85, it's not letting me delete the 1 from the third set10:45
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tarbombsteve : ya10:45
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tarbombeyequeue : no prob10:45
tuxtuxciao10:45
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meoneethtool: Link Detected: NO, but i can ping and browse web10:45
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JoseStefanback10:45
richiefrichtarbomb did u try them other tools ?10:45
npodgessometimes, my wireless doesnt connect, and i have to restart my computer for it to work again.. any way to make it restart without rebooting?10:45
chris__Hello10:46
abaddonrichiefrich okay I installed cygwin and tried to mess around and then tried another approach and didn't get very far what do I do now?10:46
lupine_85 Jimmey: run ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.110:46
tarbombnope10:46
lupine_85erm, as root10:46
Jimmeylupine_85, ahh.10:46
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lupine_85so sudo10:46
JimmeyWe're getting somewhere10:46
chris__How do I find out what graphics card my computer has?10:46
npodgessudo /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't do it10:46
bbrazilmeone: please pastebin output of ifconfig -a and route -n10:46
synicchris__: lspci10:46
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chris__I know I can do it through a terminal, but how10:46
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meone!pastebin10:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:46
ubunewbhelp!!  I am in class, and am having a problem    I edited the apt.config file to work with proxy, now no more proxy, what are the default contents of the file??10:46
eyequeuerichiefrich, yes, i love rsync, especially it's ability to start in the middle of a previously-aborted run10:46
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bbrazilubunewb: empty10:46
Bassettsi just tried to install ATI drivers but i did fglrxinfo and got Mesa GLX Indirect, thats not right is it?10:47
ubunewbto clarify, when i said "now no more proxy" I mean I am in a location that is not behind the proxy.10:47
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richiefricheyequeue well to move a partiton isnt hard i think rsync is the best..  it save the permissions10:47
meonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2157810:47
Jimmeylupine_85, I've set eth0's default gateway to the IP address of the Windows box. Sound right?10:47
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richiefrichabaddon see if u can find a howto on installing ubuntu in a chroot10:47
siouxhi10:47
eyequeueubunewb, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* seems to be dapper's default10:47
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lupine_85Jimmey: no :(10:48
abaddonkay10:48
lupine_85What you want is:10:48
geokokwhy aren't the extended attributes activated by default?10:48
chris__How do I find out what graphics card my system has?10:48
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tarbombeyequeue : so u suggest I go ahead and follow that tut for /usr10:48
bbrazilchris__: lspci, or open it up10:48
lupine_85on the windows 98 box, the default gateway should be the linux machine's address for eth010:48
eyequeuerichiefrich, cp -a will too, but that restart would be from the beginning with cp :(10:48
Jimmeychris__, where did you buy the system? Who made it? What model?10:48
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Jimmeylupine_85, yep10:48
synicchris__: lspci10:48
synicchris__: lspci10:48
synicchris__: lspci10:48
eyequeuetarbomb, yes, it will be your safest bet i think10:48
azurealhi...is there an easy way to find a network printer?10:48
BSG75hi, anyone here got ndiswrapper-utils working with Dapper?10:48
richiefricheyequeue rsync is faster imo10:48
tarbombeyequeue : I did a du , and what m i lookin at ??10:48
azurealrather, a commandline or small-gui easy way10:49
chris__Thanks10:49
lupine_85on the linux box, it should have any address on eth0; the default gateway should be the router (because that's where it sends traffic when it doesn't know what to do with it)10:49
eyequeuedu (1)               - estimate file space usage10:49
kling0n_BSG75 yea10:49
eyequeuedu (1posix)          - estimate file space usage10:49
Flamekebabwhat exactly does Ctrl Alt Backspace do?10:49
kling0n_du -h is your friend10:49
eyequeuetarbomb, ^10:49
richiefrichFlamekebab exits X10:49
azurealchris__, you might want to grep something with lspci10:49
azureallike lspci | grep raphics10:49
lupine_85When you set up the netmask for eth0, it "knows" to send any traffic destined to any addresses within that IP address/netmask combination to eth010:49
tarbombeyequeue : k i m getting too confused .. i think i will just follow the tut10:49
bbrazilmeone: also, that network card is only 100Mbit10:49
Flamekebabrichiefrich, does it kill any open programs?10:49
tarbombeyequeue:10:49
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richiefrichFlamekebab yes10:49
geokokwhat advantages/disadvantages do extended attributes have?10:49
richiefrichFlamekebab  u exit X10:50
eyequeuetarbomb, du just told you that yes usr is your wise move10:50
richiefrichand X apps die10:50
Flamekebabokays10:50
BSG75kling0n_: how did you get it to show up as wlan0 .. mine keeps coming up as eth0 as it was with bcm43xx only the bcm driver doesn't have the firmwire file .. and10:50
Flamekebabjust wanted to be clear10:50
siouxhi ubuntus I have a problem with dma. It won't work DVDs I followed this guide and the modules pIIx and ide-cd are ok. any ideas?10:50
tarbombyequeeu :;) thanx10:50
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eyequeuetarbomb, mp10:50
eyequeuetarbomb, np10:50
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richiefrichFlamekebab for any X apps10:50
siouxthis guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA10:50
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BSG75when I use iwconfig to config eth0 I can change everything but essid .. using ndiswrapper10:50
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lupine_85when the windows 98 box sends a packet to the network, it will be handled by your linux box. Unless it's destined *for* the linux box, it'll end up being sent to the default gateway...10:50
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hellokthuluHey -- can anything be done about a Repository getting the "Sub-process gzip returned an error code" error?10:51
lupine_85...which really shouldn't be the Windows 98 box ;)10:51
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richiefrichFlamekebab now if u are using 'screen'  and running a cmd in that, that doesnt rely on X then it wont die10:51
overshardjust a quick question... whats the craze over ubuntu?... maybe its just me but I don't seem to like it as much as fedora or gentoo or is it just a simpler linux distro for normal users?10:51
Jimmeylupine_85, how's this. The eth0's IP address is 192.168.0.1, it's default gateway is the router's address, and the netmask is 255.255.255.010:51
bbrazilhellokthulu: try a differnt repo10:51
richiefrichtarbomb did u try them other apps10:51
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meonebbrazil: sorry i meant Kb/s10:51
kling0n_BSG75 you did load a driver into ndiswrapper tight?10:51
lupine_85that's right10:51
hellokthulubbrazil: Thanks, but this seems to be the only one...10:51
kling0n_right even?10:51
anthony_how can I gain write priviledges of a folder, when I am not the "owner"?10:51
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JoseStefanHow can I make my X errors not show up with garbled text? (like if it was using an unsupported charset)10:51
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Flamekebabanthony_, is that you, dude?10:52
BSG75kling0n_: yup .. ndiswrapper -l shows it loaded correctly .. so does dmesg10:52
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anthony_haha it is indeed10:52
chris__OO10:52
chris__hellow10:52
Flamekebabheh10:52
anthony_got the resolution sortred out10:52
Jimmeylupine_85, right. Now I can ping my Linux box from the Windows one, and I can ping everything from my Linux box.10:52
Jack_Sparrowanthony_:  gksudo nautilus right click on folder10:52
overshardanthony_: change the permisions chmod -r 777 (folder)10:52
Flamekebaband chris__?10:52
bbrazilmeone: what are you using in ubuntu when getting those speeds?  Firefox?10:52
justin_JoseStefan: Modify your xorg.conf10:52
chris__yeah10:52
chris__hI10:52
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lupine_85now we need to enable ip forwarding10:52
lupine_851 second while I get the command10:52
Flamekebabsuch a small world10:52
JimmeyControl Panel, here I come10:52
chris__indeed10:52
FlamekebabI'm screwing around with AIGLX10:52
JoseStefanjustin_: what exactly would i be looking for?10:52
Flamekebabprettyness10:52
chris__I don't know what graphics my computer has,10:53
BSG75WOOT ... fuck me .. I don't know hwat I did .. but now I can change essid with my ndiswrapper10:53
bbrazil!language10:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:53
kling0n_BSG75 iwconfig lists the interface as a wireless interface right?10:53
BSG75sorry .. for the language .. me got excited10:53
npodgescan someone tell me briefly the difference between AIGLX and XGL10:53
chris__I did lspci and it hasn't cleared anything up10:53
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meonebbrazil: Firefox, Speakeasy.net/speedtest..only get it in windows.  Linux everything is slow now, but it never was before10:53
Jimmeylupine_85, thanks for you help, I really appreciate it.10:53
BSG75been at it since last night10:53
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kling0n_BSG75 I can recommend using the gnome-network-manager applet10:53
anthony_Flamkebab, no idea10:53
kling0n_works very well on laptops10:53
BSG75crap .. :(10:53
siouxubuntu dma won't work I followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA and the module ide-cd is correctly loaded by the kernel and associated to cdrom. an help is appreciated :-)10:53
bbrazilmeone: is that some java/flash test tool?10:53
lupine_85np. network configuration can be a git ;)10:53
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sethkchris__, paste the lspci output to the paste bot10:53
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chris__to the what bot?10:54
meonebbrazil: yes10:54
bbrazilmeone: for a proper test, try downloading an ISO from a fast mirror10:54
mikeymike-linuxdoes anyone know why my alsa mixer wont affect my audigy 2 platinum aux2 levels or any other inputs for that matter includiing microphone? i want my aux2 to come through but its not.. can anyone help? it used to if im not mistaken...10:54
kling0n_only you need to comment out the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and restart dbus to make it work10:54
Jack_Sparrow!pastebin10:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:54
bbrazilmeone: java/flash isn't the best on linux10:54
BSG75it loaded back the back the bcm43xx driver :(10:54
phreakysfound something to have multiple wallpapers in gnome => wallpapoz10:54
sethkchris__, paste.  see the channel topic10:54
meonebrazil: even downloading portage and stages off gentoo mirrors10:54
DBO!language BSG7510:54
lupine_85ok, run 'sudo echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language BSG75 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
DBO!language > BSG7510:54
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chris__what?10:54
phreakyshttp://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/download.html10:54
Jimmeylupine_85, okay10:54
phreakysdont know if its any good10:54
chris__I've been using this for a day,10:54
tarbomb!language10:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:54
azurealhi, anyone have experience adding a network printer through cli?10:54
kling0n_BSG75 theres a way to make the module forbidden10:54
chris__you'll have to be more specific10:54
meoneusing wget10:54
kling0n_hang on10:54
Jimmeylupine_85, what will that do?10:54
bbrazilmeone: that's more interesting10:55
anthony_overshard "operations not permitted" any ideas?10:55
BSG75put in blacklist?10:55
mikeymike-linuxi can record auxiliary 2 but it wont playback live through the speakers...... how do i unmute the playback mixer for auxilary 2?10:55
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lupine_85that will tell your linux computer it's OK to forward packets from the windows 98 computer10:55
bbrazilmeone: you compared like with like on windows?10:55
cjonesrichiefrich i love centericq10:55
lupine_85by default, if it receives a packet not addressed to it, it will drop it10:55
meonebbrazil: thats how this whole thing started, doing a net install of gentoo.  Then tired every other distro live cd10:55
richiefrichcjones kowls10:55
kling0n_BSG75 put a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ which contains 'blacklist <nameofmodule>'10:55
Jimmeylupine_85, it's denying me permission, even with sudo.10:55
kling0n_yup10:55
Jimmeysudo -i.10:55
meoneyes no problems in windows10:55
lupine_85ok, try 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'10:55
sethk!paste > chris__10:55
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JoseStefanWhen i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (shows on dialog borders)10:56
cjonesrichiefrich were you the one telling me about the mpeg321 player?10:56
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richiefrichcjones might be10:56
bbrazilmeone: same IP in windows/linux?10:56
meonebbrazil: yup10:56
richiefrichcjones i think i said madplay too10:56
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Jimmeylupine_85, I did sudo -i, then echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding, which didn't return any errors10:56
meonebbrazil: even bypassed my router and went direct to cable modem10:56
JimmeySound okay?10:56
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lupine_85ok, you're done then10:56
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lupine_85run "cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding" and see if it says "1"10:57
milkywayhi there, any apache diehards inhere ?10:57
chris__chris@chris-laptop:~$ lspci10:57
chris__0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)10:57
chris__0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)10:57
chris__0000:00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03)10:57
chris__0000:00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03)10:57
chris__0000:00:03.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556B CardBus [Tornado]  (rev 20)10:57
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chris__0000:00:03.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 20)10:57
chris__0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)10:57
bbrazilmeone: right. here's me guess: Windows set's the "low-latency" flag on all packets it send out. This causes most routers to give it priority. Linux on the other hand doesn't do this10:57
richiefrichspamm10:57
chris__0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)10:57
chris__0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)10:57
kling0n_ack10:57
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chris__0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)10:57
chris__0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)10:57
lupine_85!pastebin > chris__10:57
richiefrich!pastebin > chris__10:57
chris__0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)chris@chris-laptop:~$10:57
chris__sorry10:57
lmosherThere's a really weird deep sound coming from my sound card every time I move a window. WTF is that and how can I stop it?10:57
richiefrichlupine_85 u win10:57
Jimmeylupine_85, it says "1"10:57
chris__haha, sorry Ihaven't got a clue what you are talking about10:57
npodgessudo apt-get install webboard, chris_10:57
chris__what the crap is a paste bin?10:57
meonebbrazil: using ethtool i cant even set the NIC to 100Mb/s full duplex10:58
mechmg93can anyone inform me about the iptables rules i need for an active ftp server?10:58
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JoseStefan!paste10:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:58
tarbomb!language > chris_10:58
lupine_85ok :)10:58
sethkchris__, I sent you the paste bot instructions.  Plus, you have S3, so what's the problem?10:58
bbrazilmeone: odd, what sort of NIC?10:58
meonebbrazil: makes no changes and always states no link or Link dectected: no10:58
lupine_85now youi should be able to ping anywhere from the windows 98 machine10:58
tarbomb!language > chris10:58
chris__language? English... I think10:58
lupine_85but! make sure that the DNS server is set to the router address10:58
meonebbrazil: 0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: MYSON Technology Inc SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter10:58
tarbomb!language10:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:58
lupine_85*not* the linux machine's address10:59
meonebbrazil: i think its crapping out and only linux is showing it10:59
bbrazilmeone: I'm going to guess Linux support for that card is lacking, but at the speeds you're at 10Mb/s half duplex should be sufficent anyway10:59
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Jimmeylupine_85, ahh.10:59
chris__I think this is family friendly language, It just depends what sort of family. Also I only said crap10:59
Jimmeylupine_85, the DNS address for what10:59
BSG75klingon_: do u have have wlan0?10:59
Jimmeyeth0, or the Windows box10:59
npodgeschris_ not worth arguing10:59
lupine_85the windows box10:59
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Aagniwhats webboard?10:59
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bbrazilmeone: check dmesg, might indicate if there's hadrware problems11:00
npodgesit's an application to paste to pastebin11:00
npodgessits in the gnome panel11:00
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Detoxhow do i get wireless nic to work wtih live cd?11:00
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bbrazilmeone: also check ifconfig and see if it reports lots of errors11:00
chris__I wasn't arguing, more commenting. Anyway thanks for your help with the graphics... Anyone know anything about Graphics Tablets?11:00
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Jimmeylupine_85, you're a genius11:00
meonebbrazil: tried that eth0: 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter at 0xb400, 00:02:2A:C0:96:43, IRQ 11. eth0: no IPv6 routers present11:00
Aagninpodges: i just installed it11:00
BSG75Detox: what kind u got?11:00
Aagninpodges: how do i run it?11:00
lupine_85of course :)11:00
JoseStefanWhen i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (dialog's borders)11:00
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meonebbrazil: those are the last two entries11:00
bbrazilmeone: pretty normal11:01
Detoxmicrosoft mn510 usb  prisim211:01
chris__My graphics tablet doesn't seem to relate to the dimensions of my screen verywell.11:01
ScheissNUssenHello, I have a Nintendo 64 controller that has and adapter for it that plugs into my usb port.. I was wonder how I would get it to work on Ubuntu11:01
lupine_85 final thing: every time you reboot your linux machine, you'll lose the ip forwarding setting11:01
ScheissNUssenanyone have an suggestions?11:01
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chris__It's almost like you have to re-configure it whilst using it11:01
bbrazilmeone: try 'bing' between localhost and your router11:01
Jimmeylupine_85, I'll make a script11:01
lupine_85ok :)11:01
milkywayanyone familiar with apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 mod_rewrite segmentation faults  ?11:01
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meonebbrazil: speeds are great 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=3.2 ms11:01
lupine_85stick it in rc1.d (IIRC)11:01
JoseStefani use DHCP for my network settings :P11:01
Lard-O-Ladisnt the power button near the time supposed to be after the time?11:01
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bbrazilmeone: bing, not ping11:02
meonebbrazil: doh...lol11:02
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bbrazilmeone: use -s 1000 -S 10000, I find that gets better results11:02
dennda__is there any program to print images easily? i am having big trouble with the print service of eye of gnome because the images are not printed with the right position and scale on the small photo paper11:02
jpatotai am told that if i have openldap installed i already have an ldap c sdk11:02
chris__anyone, Graphics Tablets? I don't know how to set it up properly.  It works, but it's a bit off centre11:02
ScheissNUssenI have a Nintendo 64 controller that has and adapter for it that plugs into my usb port.. I was wonder how I would get it to work on Ubuntu.. When I plug it in in Windows it auto configures it... Does anoyone have any suggestions for me?11:02
jpatotawhere would i find it11:02
Aagninpodges: i got it, thnks11:03
believer_As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.11:03
believer_[112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful11:03
believer_[112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.11:03
believer_[112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.11:03
believer_[112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.11:03
synicoh boy.11:03
believer_[112:4]  "None equals Him."11:03
believer_http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf11:03
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bbrazil!ops11:03
argumenthow do i get a list of installed files with dpkg?11:03
synicdpkg -l11:03
argumente.g. like clicking "properties" in synaptic11:03
JoseStefan!tell believer_ about paste11:03
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anthony_Jack_Sparrow: thanks. just understood!11:03
Jimmeylupine_85, I'm getting a DNS problem, now11:03
JimmeyI can ping google's IP from the Windows box11:04
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kling0n_BGS75 check query window :)11:04
DBObbrazil?11:04
JimmeyBut pinging google.com doesn't work11:04
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chris__anthony_ is a love bunny11:04
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bbrazilDBO: beleiver11:04
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ScheissNUssenhaha11:04
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ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!11:04
ScheissNUssensomeone PWN the believer11:04
bbrazilDBO: thanks11:04
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lupine_85 Jimmey: did you set up the dns server on the windows 98 machine11:04
DBObbrazil, the way the truth and the ban =)11:04
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Jimmeylupine_85, as my router, yep11:04
Flamekebabthe only thing I'm a believer in is open source, heh11:04
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chris__can anyone help with an offset graphics tablet?11:05
Jimmeylupine_85, I mean the DNS for the Windows machine is my router.11:05
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lupine_85did you restart it?11:05
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IndyBCUbuntu users don't like debian at all?11:05
JimmeyYep11:05
lupine_85(the win98 box)11:05
Flamekebabriight..11:05
synicIndyBC: um... I love debian11:05
lupine_85Hmm. Try giving it the address that your router uses, then11:05
Jimmeylupine_85, it made me :(11:05
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Flamekebabchris__, anthony_ , what happened there?11:05
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bluefox83apt timestamp issues..how do i fix it?11:05
chris__eh?11:05
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Jimmeylupine_85, okay11:05
IndyBCsynic: oh, ok :)11:06
bluefox83something about moving my time forward..s'all i remember11:06
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chris__you left, and came back11:06
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chris__anyone know anything about offset graphics tablets?11:06
JoseStefanWhen i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (dialog's borders)11:06
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anthony_flamekebab: what happened where sorry?11:06
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meonethere a way you can access IRC from the ubuntu live cd?11:06
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synicmeone: yes11:07
Seveasmeone, gaim can do irc11:07
Flamekebabanthony_, someone kicked me..11:07
Jimmeylupine_85, just restarting now11:07
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synicmeone: irssi, gaim, xchat11:07
reddux01hello11:07
JoseStefanmeone, i think you can install packages on a live environment, but it is tricky11:07
anthony_flamekebab: I don't /think/ it was me; I pmd you a while back...could that be it?11:07
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meonethanks ill try n be back11:08
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bluefox83sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 24 20:28:36 2006    <---how do i fix that?11:08
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Cirvin_FoxHello, is it possible to use my sony handycam's USB link in ubuntu?11:08
Flamekebabanthony_, PMing doesn't work on here, IIRC, unless you're registered11:08
reddux01hello?11:08
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dr|zedhello11:08
reddux01hey how are you?11:08
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dodgyvilleHello11:09
dr|zedall good.11:09
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_tcchello11:09
chris__So.... graphics tablets.... anyone know how to stop one from being gay?11:09
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dodgyvilleAre their dapper packages  for kernel 2.6.17 ?11:09
dr|zedspeaking of graphics.11:09
dr|zedhttp://xaraxtreme.org11:09
anthony_flamekebab: ah ok.  why when I run nautilus can I edit folders in the File System, but not otherwise?11:09
dodgyvillechris__: What's the prob. I have a tablet...11:09
reddux01I was wondering if anyone was experiencing timeouts when trying to connect to apache2 on ubuntu dapper drake?11:09
dr|zedfree linux graphical loveliness.11:09
fdsdugg usplash sucks11:09
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chris__well, It works, but it's a bit offset11:10
dr|zedshould work nicely under ubuntu with a tablet.11:10
Flamekebabanthony_, how do you mean, edit folders?11:10
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dodgyvillechris__: Sorry, I don't know about that.11:10
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anthony_flamekebab: like, make a new one!11:10
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dodgyville2.6.17 anyone?11:10
JoseStefan!info linux-image-386 edgy11:10
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.4 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB11:10
Flamekebaberm, what else would you use to make folders?11:10
chris__as in, when I use it i can go to the edge of the screen on one side, and that'll be the edge of the tab, and then the other edge of the screen will be the middle of the tab11:10
kling0n_anthony_ sudo mkdir -p /usr/bing ?11:10
anthony_flamekebab: it has all these crazy priviledges (sp) and stuff11:10
chris__it's very odd11:10
Jimmeylupine_85, I still get a DNS error. I can ping the IPs, just not the domain names. Also, when I try to connect to http://google'sIP , I get errors :(11:10
reddux01I'm running a dell poweredge 1950 with broadcom 100baseTx-FD using bnx2 module11:10
Flannelbluefox83: sudo -K11:10
Cirvin_Foxthink a sony handycam will work with ubuntu? kinda webcam-like?11:10
warlockyI wish to make a few files to .zip or .tar.gz, umm. like this: I want all files within /var/www/ to be splited up, ex 1.tar.gz, 2.tar.gz or something familiar to that.11:11
Flannelbluefox83: do that (on it's own) then try your command again11:11
amonkeyis it possible to run my nvidia tv-out as a seperate screen so that I can run a seperate X session on it?11:11
Flamekebabanthony_, you should be able to make folders only in your home folder11:11
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sethkJimmey, try running the host command for a domain11:11
anthony_flamekeba: oh right!  why?11:11
Flamekebabunless you've root privileges (ie, by running "sudo nautilus" )11:11
idelhi, how can I get back grub from a windows reinstallation? I tried with chroot but I get the message /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.11:11
Jimmeysethk, you've lost me11:11
Flamekebabanthony_, what do you mean why?11:11
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sethkJimmey, in a terminal, type host whatever (host www.yahoo.com, for example) and see what happens11:11
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Flamekebaboh and anthony_, if you didn't know, you can just type the first few letters of my name and hit TAB, it'll complete my name11:12
BSG75anyone know where the modules are stored?11:12
Jimmeysethk, the problem's not with my Linux box, it's with a Windows machine11:12
lupine_85Jimmey: can you ping the DNS server's address?11:12
Flamekebabsave you typing it11:12
wubrgamerheyg uiys11:12
Jimmeylupine_85, let me try11:12
mng^hi, im wondering if theres some way for me to check the network activity. I mean, _if_ and _how_ much data im sending/recieving11:12
lupine_85oh, d'oh. I know what's wrong11:12
anthony_flamekebab: well, you see, under /windows/......... :P11:12
sethkJimmey, so?11:12
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JoseStefanFlamekebab, not on mIRC :(11:12
anthony_Flamekebab, sweet11:12
wubrgamerhow do i get a .avi to a format an ipod can read ?11:12
JoseStefanFlamekebab, oh nevermind11:12
lupine_85You need to tell the router about the windows 98 box's subnet11:12
JoseStefanFlamekebab, guess i missed "when" they added that11:12
FlamekebabJoseStefan, I happen to know that both anthony_ and chris__ are both running Xchat11:13
Flamekebaband I know it works under xchat11:13
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Jimmeylupine_85, I can ping the DNS server from my Windows box. And how do I do that?11:13
lupine_85right now, it's sending all the packets destined for it to... yep... the default interface (Internet)11:13
anthony_JoseStefan, he's right11:13
milkywaylooking for some adive on apache mod_rewrite problem11:13
JimmeyI can log into my router's HTTP controls11:13
Cirvin_Foxok, how do i set up a webcam? the utility i had in hoary isnt avalible for dapper11:13
JoseStefanFlamekebab, works on mIRC now as well xD11:13
Flamekebabanthony_, isn't it nice knowing that you can't balls up your filesystem without authenticating first?11:13
chris__what the...11:13
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lupine_85oh, you can ping the DNS server?11:13
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Jimmeylupine_85, yeah11:13
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anthony_Flamekebab, well, I can still balls it up, only it takes longer.  I will mess it up in the end!11:13
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JimmeyI can ping google's IP, etc11:13
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lupine_85But you can't connect to (say) Google's IP using Internet Explorer?11:14
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keHi, I'm an idiot trying to run ubuntu :)11:14
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Jimmeylupine_85, nope11:14
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Aagnike, hi idiot11:14
CokeNCodewhen i apt-get install ... where does the program get installed by default? which folder i mean11:14
sethkke, that's interesting but it isn't a question11:14
JimmeyOh, wait11:14
CokeNCodeand where can i download a keymap file ?11:14
sethkCokeNCode, depends on the program11:14
FlannelCokeNCode: which part of the program?11:14
JoseStefanCokeNCode, that's defined on a per package basis11:14
FlamekebabWHO MENTIOND THAT EVIL?!11:14
CokeNCodeoh man ... :S11:14
JimmeyI tried http://google'sIP, which didn't work. Then I tried just google'sIP, and it's getting somewhere.11:14
FlamekebabWHO SAID THE IE WORD?!11:14
Flamekebabhehe11:14
mng^hi, im wondering if theres some way for me to check the network activity. I mean, _if_ and _how_ much data im sending/recieving11:14
eXistenZJimmey, you have winsock problem11:15
kehaha, sorry. i was wondering if my computer is supposed to show a blank screen when trying to run a live version of ubuntu? a blank input screen?11:15
Flamekebabke, whatcha need help with?11:15
secleinteerhey, if i install kubuntu on one hdd, and then install windows on another hdd, will that erase grub? or would the hdd with kubuntu have grub, and the other one the windows bootloader?11:15
CokeNCodemng^, ethereal11:15
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sethkke, no11:15
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JoseStefanCokeNCode, there is a way to lists the package's files after it has been installed11:15
lupine_85yes, you shouldn't have the http:// bit :)11:15
lupine_85ok, so it's a dns resolution problem11:15
CokeNCodeJoseStefan, ok, how do i do that ?11:15
JimmeyOh, lupine_85, that didn't work11:15
eXistenZJimmey, Are you using windows right now?11:15
CokeNCodeand where can i find a keymap file11:15
dodgyville!info linux-image-386 dapper11:15
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB11:15
JoseStefanCokeNCode, i forgot :( hold on11:15
lupine_85oh, ok11:15
Cirvin_Foxis there a utiliy to install a webcam?11:15
chris__anthony_, do you want some food?11:15
lupine_85so still not getting anywhere11:15
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secleinteeranyone know....?11:15
keafter it says configuring drivers, it shows a black input screen and i don't know what i'm doing wrong and if i'm not doing wrong, what i should do next... i tried typing boot: live but i dont know if that was stupid of me to do so11:15
lupine_85I think we need to set up a static route on your router11:16
lupine_85to tell it where the '98 box is11:16
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Jimmeylupine_85, ahh.11:16
mng^CokeNCode: where do i get that?11:16
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Jimmeylupine_85, can you help me with that11:16
sethkke, it appears that it is either misidentifying your video hardware or otherwise confused.  what kind of machine is it?11:16
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lupine_85Possibly :). what router?11:16
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CokeNCodemng^, apt-get install ethereal11:16
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dodgyvilleJoseStefan: Are the edgy repositories OK to point to instead of dapper?11:16
Jimmeylupine_85, the beautiful Linksys.11:16
mng^CokeNCode: Ok, thanks11:16
JimmeyWAG54G.11:16
Flannelsecleinteer: If you install windows last, grub will be gone.  You'll need to reinstall it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:16
lupine_85Okay; open it up in a browser and login as the admin11:17
CokeNCoderight, guys ... where can i find my keymap file?11:17
JimmeyOkies11:17
CokeNCodethis is muy importante11:17
JoseStefandodgyville, not sure, probably not, but thats the only place you are going to find that kernel, unless you compile yourself11:17
Jimmeylupine_85, done11:17
secleinteerflannel: even if i do it on different hdd's?11:17
CokeNCodeok, got it :D11:17
Cirvin_Foxinstalling webcam, how do i do it?11:17
JoseStefanCokeNCode, try: dpkg-query --listfiles packagename11:18
lupine_85ok, can you see any menu option like "static routes"?11:18
Flannelsecleinteer: the MBR is just the first section of the first HDD.  If you installed grub onto the second harddrive, then no, but usually it gets installed onto the first.11:18
JoseStefanCokeNCode, Synaptics can tell you too11:18
reddux01is there an ubuntu channel for server admins?11:18
lupine_85I'm just off to d/l the manual11:18
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eXistenZJimmey, using windows?11:18
reddux01rather than desktop users?11:18
Jimmeylupine_85, I'll take a little nosey around11:18
cjonesonce you upgrade to dapper how do you un upgrade ?11:18
JimmeyeXistenZ, yep11:18
Flannelreddux01: you're in it11:18
Flannelcjones: reinstall11:18
reddux01I'm running ubuntu strictly as a server11:18
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eXistenZJimmey, install this file, http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Network-Tweak/WinSockFix.shtml , reboot, and everything will be fine.11:18
aburtonok, so here's my situation: I have a nice box which is all mangled up with a ton of tiny partitions caused by several ubuntu installations, plus some regular sized ntfs partitions from a windows installation. I want to back up the stuff from windows, then wipe the two hard drives clean, but I'm having trouble mounting the ntfs partitions, and for some reason it ubuntu won't log me on11:18
lupine_85let's see who can find it first ;)11:18
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secleinteerflannel: my windows is messed up, but i want to save the data. i just got a new hdd, and i'm putting kubuntu on that, then transferring the data (which isn't lost) and install windows on the original hdd11:18
reddux01and I'd like to discuss issues revolving around that11:18
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secleinteerso this will be my 2nd hdd that i'm putting kubuntu on11:19
lupine_85eXistenZ: you sure?11:19
secleinteerwill that matter concerning where grub goes?11:19
eXistenZlupine_85, yes11:19
eXistenZlupine_85, I had the same problem11:19
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kei'm a true idiot when it comes to this. do you mean like Pentium 4, how fast it is, etc? honestly, pretend i know nothing... because when it coems to this, i dont. i dont know how to answer "what kind of machine is it"11:19
FlamekebabCirvin_Fox, which webcam?11:19
sethkaburton, if you can't log on, how could you be having problems mounting?  you can't even try to mount without logging on11:19
JimmeyeXistenZ, it's Windows 9811:19
Bassettsim trying to setup XGL/compiz but direct rendering shows "no"11:19
Bassettsany help?11:19
Flannelsecleinteer: install grub on the first HD, then when you reinstall windows, you'll need to recover grub.  That's the easiest way.11:19
Cirvin_Foxits actually a sony handycam with a USB interface11:19
FlannelBassetts: #ubuntu-xgl11:19
eXistenZJimmey, Oh, I don't know about win9811:19
eXistenZJimmey, I tried it in xp11:19
aburtonsethk: I can log on in repair mode or whatever11:19
sethkke, I was more interested in what video hardware you have, but I suspect you don't know that either  :)11:19
aburtonin console11:19
aburtonas root11:19
Flannelreddux01: what you wondering about?11:19
FlamekebabBassetts, you might be better off in #ubuntu-xgl11:19
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Cirvin_Foxbut i'd settle with installing a logitech messenger webcam11:19
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secleinteerflannel: how do i install grub on the first hdd? will that be default?11:20
cicahi guys11:20
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Flamekebabdamn you, flannel, too quick!11:20
BassettsFlamekebab, Flannel: thanks11:20
eXistenZJimmey, The problem I had is that I can ping websites, but I cannot browse them. And I fixed it with that file.11:20
aburtonI want to apt-get ssh-server11:20
aburtonbut it won't let me11:20
kehaha, no i don't. is there a way i can find out11:20
ke?11:20
lupine_85ok, I've found the manual...11:20
FlamekebabCirvin_Fox, I think the messenger cam just works11:20
aburtonit's acting like I don't have any space on the partitio11:20
aburtonn11:20
JimmeyeXistenZ, I'm connected to a laptop, which's connected to a router11:20
cicaI just removed everything under /usr/src (accidently) :-( Is there anything I can do to get this stuff bacl _please_11:20
anthony_I'm trying to install this wireless 2200BG adapter, and it keeps on giving permission errors.  How can I simply take all the restrcitions off temporarilly11:20
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JoseStefanaburton, try: df11:20
aburtondf?11:20
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Cirvin_Foxwhat about the handycam, what procedures can i go through to see if that works?11:21
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JoseStefan!df11:21
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T11:21
Jimmeyanthony_, use sudo11:21
_gpg_salut11:21
sethkanthony_, try  sudo -i11:21
Flamekebabanthony_, you trying to paste in files, sennett?11:21
aburtondf factorial?11:21
JoseStefanaburton, df (disk free)11:21
justin_How do I install GCC for dapper, so I can install programs from source rather the binary?11:21
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aburtonah11:21
_gpg_qq1 pourrais me rappeler le fichier list e mise a jours des media ?11:21
Flamekebablike, in Nautilus?11:21
aburtonthanks11:21
sethkjustin_, apt-get install build-essential11:21
anthony_Flamekebab, I'm tring to unpack a file11:21
secleinteerflannel: how do i install grub on the first hdd? will that be default?11:21
cicaanyone know how to restore files under /usr/src ? _PLEASE_11:21
Flannelsecleinteer: right, that'll be default11:21
anthony_Flamekebab, /whatever is it11:21
dr|zedanyone running xaraxtreme yet? if not, why not?!! :)11:21
Flamekebabrun nautilus from the command line11:21
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Flamekebabrun it as follows: sudo nautilus11:21
Flamekebabthat way you have full access11:21
secleinteerflannel: ok thx11:21
_gpg_omg omg sry11:21
secleinteeri guess i'll try now11:22
justin_sethk: Thanks, and can this package be removed later on if I so choose?11:22
Jimmeylupine_85, can I PM you?11:22
CokeNCodedoes anyone know where i can find a decent keylogger11:22
cicacan anyone please help me folks?11:22
JimmeyeXistenZ, I'll take a look at that - Thanks :)11:22
sethkjustin_, I can't imagine why, but I suppose you could remove it with apt-get11:22
CokeNCodethis one lkl is giving me a heap of trouble11:22
CokeNCodefor no good reason11:22
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justin_sethk: Limited diskspace on this pc ;)11:22
aburtonwill rm -r remove things entirely11:22
aburtonor will it move it somewhere else on the disk11:22
sethkjustin_, ok, must be very limited11:23
Cirvin_Foxso is there nothing i can do to see if the sony cam will work?11:23
Flannelaburton: it removes it entirely11:23
anthony_sethk, Jimmey, thank you both11:23
sethkaburton, rm removes, permanently11:23
aburtonk11:23
FlamekebabCirvin_Fox, which model?11:23
lupine_85Jimmey: sure11:23
Cirvin_FoxDCR-TRV25011:23
justin_sethk: Ahh it's only 30 megs, I thought it was going to be in the hundreds of megs ;)11:23
cica:'-( Please guys... does anyone know how to restore files usder /usr/src?11:23
phreakyshm, how do i remove a program i installed manually?11:23
FlannelCirvin_Fox: try googling, the specific model number, and linux.  I'm sure someone else has already tried.11:23
Cirvin_Foxtrue11:23
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meonebbrazil: what was the command u wanted for bing? bing -s 100 -S 1000 ip ?11:23
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Cirvin_Foxand what do i use to capture  pics/video from webcams?11:23
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bbrazilmeone: it takes 2 IPs11:23
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GwildorYOU SHOULD !!! FUCKTWAT!!11:24
bbrazilmeone: and x10 those numbers11:24
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JoseStefanphreakys, was it a deb package?11:24
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phreakysno, just a zipped file11:25
cicais /usr/src files restoreable?11:25
Flannelphreakys: just delete the files11:25
anthony_Flamekebab, this is no use. can I phone you please?11:25
meonebbrazil: bing -s 1000 -S 10000 ip1 ip2 ?11:25
Flamekebabsure11:25
Flamekebabone sec11:25
bbrazilmeone: yip11:25
FlamekebabI'll phone you11:25
cica!/usr/src11:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usr/src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
Flamekebabactually, no, phone me on my house phone11:25
Flamekebabnot office line11:26
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meonebbrazil: running now11:26
cica!linux-headers11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
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cica!linuxheaders11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linuxheaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
anthony_Flamekebab, don't know it sorry11:26
cica!linux-header11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
Flamekebabthe one that ends 223383?11:26
JoseStefan!headers11:26
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages11:26
bbrazilmeone: crtl-c it after about a minute, summary should give you the rough link speed11:26
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JoseStefan:D11:26
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anthony_okies11:26
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strompuj, lots of people here11:26
Cirvin_Foxso what program is used to capture images and video from webcams?11:27
JoseStefan!tell cica about headers11:27
cicaJoseStefan: I have accidentlly removed all files under /usr/src... how can I get these bacl _PLEASE_11:27
aburtonalright, I realize this sounds incredibly lazy of me, and normally I really would rtfm more, but I'm under some serious time constraints (I'm moving) and I'm running on 3 hours of sleep in the last three days-- I have a ton of partitions on these two hard drives. some of them are swap, some of them are ext3, some of them are ntfs.  (I botched a couple installs... long story) How would I mount/consolidate all of them?11:27
reddux01Just to let you know on dapper I did a kernel upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade and it doesn't work unless you do and apt-update linux-headers-`uname -r`11:27
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JoseStefancica, dont know11:27
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reddux01after you update the headers it boots to the new kernel fine11:27
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reddux01actually that uname -r needs to be the name of the new kernel11:28
JoseStefani have never worried about header packages11:28
cicaaburton: is it possible to restore files under /usr/src ?11:28
Cirvin_Foxwebcam program anyone?11:28
skys123hello. I have a network that seems to slow way the heck down around particular points in the day. I dont know which host or hosts are causing this. What tools are available to do a discovery??11:28
meonebbrazil: whats the ubuntu paste site?11:29
reddux01JoseStefan: well my experience is that I needed them or I got a blank screen with the reboot to the new kernel11:29
sethkskys123, I would start by running ethereal during that slow period11:29
bbrazil!pastebin11:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:29
skys123!pastebin11:29
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meonegracias11:29
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CokeNCodeok, thanks11:29
CokeNCodeuberkey rocks !11:29
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justin_ Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. <-- What does that mean?, I get that from GCC when I try to compile new version of fluxbox11:29
strompanyway to get nautulus to show movies resoulutions?11:30
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meonebbrazil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2158311:30
skys123sethk: I can run that off of the primary eth0 interface or will i need to setup port mirroring etc?11:30
lmosherI'm about to take out an ati card and put in an nvidia card. What do I change my driver to in xorg.conf?11:30
amonkeyIf I have multiple screens on my X server, can i specify a mouse for each?11:30
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HymnToLifehi, folks :)11:30
somepersoni downloaded the 686 kernel and now my wireless is missing, how can i get it back11:30
sethkskys123, you can capture on eth0, no need for any network configuration changes11:30
fdovingjustin_: you need the package 'xserver-xorg-dev'11:31
JoseStefansomeperson, did you download the modules too?11:31
justin_fdoving: More packages? lo...11:31
shobewhey any one have a good link to get elilo working on a bacbook intel?11:31
HymnToLifecan anyone tell me how do I tell sudo not to prompt for the password ?11:31
somepersonmodules?11:31
xe||hi, not sure if this is the right place, i just wanted to say thank you for ubuntu, i installed it today and it rocks :-)11:31
bbrazilmeone: thats a 100Mbps link anyway. Could be half or full duplex11:31
somepersoni'm a beginner in Ubuntu11:31
argumentxe||, sure why not11:31
JoseStefansomeperson, install linux-restricted-modules-68611:31
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bbrazilmeone: lot of packet loss though11:32
aburtoncica: what do you mean?11:32
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dalfzwhat app can i install to manage dual monitor setup on my ati?11:32
JoseStefansomeperson: actually try installing package linux-68611:32
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meonebbrazil: i noticed that, could something like that just slip by so long in windows?11:32
lmosheramonkey, Yes, i do believe so in xorg.conf. Just look at where your mouse/screen combos are defined in xorg.conf and copy them. If you need more details I can open mine up11:32
bbrazilmeone: well, the 10000 packets would be fragmented into 1500 byte chunks11:33
bluefox83ok, how do i setup xorg.conf to use my tv as a second monitor?11:33
bbrazilmeone: so the numbers aren't as bad as they look11:33
somepersoncool, thanks11:33
shobewdalfz: vim11:33
meoneyah, the MTU is set on AUTO for the router11:33
bbrazilmeone: a ping -f might give you a better idea11:34
shobewany one have some elilo tips?11:34
lmosherwhat's the defautl nvidia driver called for xorg.conf?11:34
shobewnv11:34
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dalfzshobew, crappy xorg.conf hacking with x restart? i got fed up by that from fedora11:34
meone39508 packets transmitted, 39503 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 0.7/2.8/20.2 ms11:34
secleinteerhey, does any1 know where the option in the live cd install to have a separate /home partition is?11:35
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secleinteeri don't mean manual partition11:35
secleinteeri'm pretty sure there's a way that has the installer do it for you11:36
shobewdalfz: lol I was going to dual screen my nvidia card but x doesn't do well with monitors of different size ,type, and refresh11:36
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devhensecleinteer: why not just do it manually?11:36
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cello_rasphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243033 help solve this mystery!!11:36
secleinteernot sure how to11:36
bluefox83lmosher, "nvidia"11:36
secleinteerand i've seen this method before11:36
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secleinteeri was just wondering if anyone knew how to get to it11:36
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dalfzshobew, hopefully it will be dealt with better in xorg 711:36
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devhensecleinteer: create a 256MB /boot partition, a swap partition twice the size of your ram, and then split the remaining space between / and /home11:37
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cjonesflannel reinstall are you kidding me ?11:37
devhenits easy11:37
devhensecleinteer: make sure to put the /boot part at the front of the drive11:37
secleinteerk11:37
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shobewdalfz: it should, I cant complain too much it supports my new dvi dell monitor reselution better the xp did so hey11:38
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GUIPEnguin_why when I try to select any package in the add/remove programs  I get  "packagename" is not avalible in any software cannel?  does that mean I have to add more repositories?11:38
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pontifexdevhen: why? not because of the 1024 cylinder boundary? surely that's not a problem any more?11:39
kesethk okay, could my video hardware be Legacy Video Capture Devices or how it's VGA capable or how it's a Uniprocessor PC?11:39
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GUIPEnguin_it says these applications might now support your system architecture....I have a p4??11:39
dalfzshobew, lucky you :) me next hopefully11:39
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GUIPEnguin_*might not11:39
devhenpontifex: im not sure if it applies anymore. i do it just to be safe. i think you still need to do it when dualbooting11:39
secleinteerdevhen: how do i set a partition to /boot, or / or /home ?11:39
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sethkpontifex, the 1024 boundary is not a problem except for machines with very old BIOS11:40
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sethkpontifex, linux doesn't care about it.  I'm not sure whether windows has any problems in that area any more11:40
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devhensecleinteer: when manually partitioning in the installer it will say mount point and let you choose the mount point11:40
secleinteerk11:40
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devhensecleinteer: when you create a new part it asks for the format (ext3 if your not sure) and the mount point11:41
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gamereric1hey11:41
gamereric1I need help11:41
TheGateKeeperis xserver 10.4 safe to install now??11:41
pontifexdevhen: sethk to be honest if I create a /boot at the start of the disk too, seems like force of habit :)11:41
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gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:41
sethkpontifex, it certainly doesn't hurt anything to do it11:41
s-ndh-chm11:41
UKMattdoes anyone else have to turn the volume up a lot higher in Ubuntu compared to other OS like XP?11:41
secleinteerdevhen: where does this mount point option appear?11:41
JoseStefanTheGateKeeper, yes, run an update before the upgrade11:41
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sethkUKMatt,  what?  I can't hear you11:42
bluefox83anyone here ever used a tv as a second monitor?11:42
gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:42
gamereric1yes11:42
s-ndh-csomehow all vmware disk images i create using qemu-img show only 8gb free space in the installer of windows 2k11:42
devhensecleinteer: in the dialog where you create a new partition11:42
UKMattsethk, haha i don't think it impacts your reading11:42
TheGateKeeperthanx JoseStefan :-)11:42
gamereric1its cool, not hard to do11:42
gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:42
kehm, tries it all again11:42
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sethkUKMatt, details11:42
gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:42
adri_hi everybody, i'm trying to install a small play and i meet an error: "configure: error: *** SDL version 1.2.4 not found!" can someone help me??????11:42
bluefox83gamereric1, are you installing from scratch on a system with no network access?11:42
JoseStefanUKMatt, i should make these fonts bigger though11:42
UKMattI have to turn my speakers up to 75% to hear it normally, and I've checked the sound setting and they seem to be turned up11:42
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devhenpontifex, sethk thats how i am. i do it out of habit. it doesnt anything. and it reminds me to keep my kernels tidy, if i end up with 10 diff kernels and the /boot is filling up it reminds me to get rid of some of them11:43
uwohi all - i was fooling around with splash screen & themes and seem to have broken sth - i can't start gnome anymore - what is the best way to return all of gnome settings to default?11:43
lordhelmetis is possible to add a group, instead of a user, to a group?11:43
bbrazillordhelmet: no11:43
FRETUKMatt, you can change the volume with the pcm and master...11:43
sethkdevhen, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do, only that you can do it or not do it, from a technical perspective11:43
secleinteerdevhen: is that what the "label" option is for?11:43
UKMattfret, how's that11:43
bbrazillordhelmet: I suspect you might want to read up on Filesystem ACLs11:43
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devhensecleinteer: probably. does it give you some options like / /boot /home, etc? in a dropdown?11:44
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lordhelmethmmm.....can i change the groups that users are automatically part of when they login then (the users auth through ldap)11:44
secleinteerno11:44
gamereric1I am trying to install from a system without internet access11:44
sethksecleinteer, it's possible to mount a partition identified by a label instead of, say, /dev/hda1, but it's a bad idea11:44
gamereric1I do not want to download the packages11:44
asdfjkli have apache2 configured to be a folder on my desktop, but the size is 3.1 GB, does anyone know if/how i can increase that size?11:44
lordhelmeti can make the change in ldap, but if it can be done locally11:44
gamereric1I want to get them from the cd11:44
Kurmishi. where i can find ubuntu boot floppy ? my computer boot only from floppy11:44
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JoseStefangamereric1, change your repositories so they only include the CD11:44
devhensethk: agreed. old habits die hard11:44
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bluefox83gamereric1, just put the cd in, boot from cd..install11:44
gamereric1ok brb give me a second11:44
hyperpenguinHi there! My Plantronics USB headset is having a little issue.11:45
UKMattFRET, how do I turn that up?11:45
GUIPEnguin_well..apparently the add/remove or synaptic package manajor can't connect to the internet....that is why I am getting all these packages that are 'unsupported' for my arch.... but I can connect fine to the internet through firefox11:45
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gamereric1ok booting11:45
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FRETUKMatt, with your volume control in the panel. Right click on it -> properties for example11:46
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hyperpenguinThe headset works fine, but I can't seem to make it the default device/play to it11:46
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bascule_hi folks, i'm looking for a place to download some cd repositories so i can give an old machine to someone with no imternet access11:46
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UKMattfret, ty, those are all turned up though but still the sound is different11:47
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ubunoob1hi room11:47
gamereric1ok the cd is going11:47
FRETUKMatt, different?11:47
gamereric1what do i do11:47
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DanaGHow do I get my CD drives to not spin down after every single track?11:47
JoseStefanbascule_, you can use the altnernate install CD as a repository11:47
gamereric1im at the boot screen11:47
gamereric1what do i do11:47
uwohi all - one more time - i broke something in gnome - backrgound, panel, nothing will start - how do i return to a default setting?11:47
gamereric1to install the packages11:47
asdfjklis there a way to increase folder quotas?11:47
gamereric1should i press F1?11:47
sethkbascule_, use a distribution that is delivered on the CDs, such as fedora11:48
sethkbascule_, or slackware if you want a more minimal distro11:48
UKMattfret, all of those are turned up, but i have to crank the speakers to hear it well11:48
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JoseStefanbascule_, try the ubuntu DVD11:48
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rski need something kinda odd...11:48
dr|zedubuntu, mepis or suse.11:48
rski need a lightwight live-dvd that can boot of pentium and pentiums twos11:49
lupine_85DSL ?11:49
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devhenbascule_: if you use fedora use the 'respin' cds which include updates that have come out since FC5: cule_, www.fedoraunity.org11:49
dr|zedrsk: damn small linux.11:49
bascule_JoseStefan: how much is different, i like the look of ubuntu, i use mandriva myself but i think ubunut has the edge for newbies, however the install cd doesn't have openoffice on it and the recipeint of this old machine needs that11:49
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rskDSL is not a live_DVD_11:49
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Jman8888I have a problem. I have ubuntu installed on my Sisters pc now(They were tired of the unreliablility of Windows) and i installed it onto a seperate hd than windows(Expecting a dual boot to work , It didnt) but im happy with how ubuntu is working and she is happy. My question is how can i See the Windows drive. or even format it to linux.11:49
lupine_85perhaps xubuntu, if they have one?11:49
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JoseStefanbascule_, same thing, just different convenience11:49
FRETUKMatt, don't know then. Look again if PCM and master are really up. And the volume control of your player11:49
fishySound won't play in any flash files. What's wrong?11:50
bluefox83bascule_, then just use synaptic to download it O.o11:50
ubunoob1can anyone tell me how to clear the list in the Name contains dialog in the gnome search for files ?been searching through fles and the list has grown.11:50
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gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:50
JoseStefanbascule_, try the ubuntu DVD has more packages from the getgo11:50
secleinteerhey, does the alternate cd do the same thing as the live cd but w/ the breezy text mode install?11:50
sethkJman8888, you can do either, but of course they aren't the same11:50
devhenbascule_: how about install the OS/software/updates somewhere that you Do have internet, and then give it to this person11:50
StephenLWhat file does System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs  write to?11:50
sethkJman8888, to reuse it, you just to mkfs (typically mkfs.ext3) on the partition, after using fdisk to change its type to linux11:50
bluefox83gamereric1, i thought we went over this...pop the cd in and go11:50
Cirvin_Foxubuntu isnt automatically installing my webcam, and i dont have a program to view the output, what can be done?11:50
Jman8888sethk: Well i want to do one.(Whatever is easier)11:51
sethkJman8888, if it is formatted vfat, you can mount it and read and write to it in linux.  If it is ntfs, you can mount it and read, but not write11:51
gamereric1I had a;lready installed ubuntu tho11:51
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phargleCirvin_Fox: did you load the windows drivers?11:51
bluefox83Cirvin_Fox, you need to find your webcam drivers first...what webcam do you have?11:51
Jman8888sethk: is there step by step. (How do i mount it.)11:51
sethkJman8888, you have to decide whether you are keeping windows or not, then we'll tell you11:51
sethkJman8888, mount the existing?  yes11:51
Cirvin_Foxhow would windows drivers help me in linux?11:51
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Cirvin_Foxits a logitech messenger cam11:51
sethksomeone tell Jman8888 the url for mounting windows partitions in linux?11:51
JoseStefangamereric1, could you restate the question?11:51
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sethkCirvin_Fox, they won't11:51
meone!leave11:51
ubotuleave: Reminds you when you have to leave. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12-1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 56 kB11:51
fishyHow do I get sound working in Flash? Is there a way to reinstall ESD and all the sound stuff?11:51
gamereric1how do I install packages from the CD?11:51
Jman8888sethk: Im getting rid of the windows. (It wont boot anyway...)11:51
DanaGAaargh, stupid spindown.11:51
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devhen!fstab > Jman888811:52
DanaGHow do I stop it?11:52
gamereric1i already have installed ubuntu on teh system11:52
sethkJman8888, oh, so you just want to use those partitions?11:52
devhen!fstab11:52
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions11:52
devhen!partitions11:52
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks11:52
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GUIPEnguin_why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an x86 Pentium4      I can do  aptitude update  fine..11:52
bascule_JoseStefan: no dvd on this old machine, i want the guy to have a nice range of stuff on cd that he can install if he wants, but i don't intend to become his support guy, this is a freecycle thing - freecycle.org - hence i'm hoping to put o what seems to eb the best newbie friendly ditro at the mo11:52
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sethkJman8888, as I said, use fdisk to change the partition type to linux, then use mkfs.ext3 to create a file system on the partition11:52
Fo0py011:52
Fo0pppl11:52
StephenLWhat file do I edit to add startup programs?11:52
Jman8888sethk: I want to have it preferably empty.11:52
fishyAny experts in here to answer my question?11:52
JoseStefanbascule_, and you already stated no internet right?11:53
sethkJman8888, what I just told you will create an empty file system on it.11:53
sethkJman8888, I assume you don't mean unused, you mean a file system with empty space11:53
Fo0pphack it11:53
Fo0puse win 9511:53
gamereric1what do you think?11:53
Jman8888sethk: Yeah i want it to be empty. But how? (In terminal)11:53
bascule_JoseStefan: once out of my hands there will be no internet, the disks are small so no room to download a local mirror, i'm happy to burn a few cds though11:53
sloucherfishy: it's the custom to just ask the question11:54
Cirvin_Foxhow do i install a webcam in dapper?11:54
sethkJman8888, which partition is it?11:54
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secleinteerwhere in the hdd should the swap go?11:54
JoseStefanbascule_, if the ubuntu CDs dont have the packages you want, you could download the packages manually (with dependencies) and burn it on a 2nd cd (packages.ubuntu.com)11:54
secleinteerthe end?11:54
secleinteeror does it matter?11:54
Jman8888sethk: Its a hard drive not a partition. I have 2 hd's in it.11:54
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sethkJman8888, which hard drive is it that we are using?  hda?11:55
Jman8888sethk: 2 Seperate hard drives. Not one big one.11:55
Jman8888sethk: Not sure. What do i type to find out.11:55
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sethkJman8888, ok.  do this:   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda11:55
secleinteerdoes any1 know where the swap partition goes?11:55
sethkJman8888, then do the same for hdb:   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb11:55
slouchersecleinteer: I vote for doesn't matter, because I have put them everywhere11:55
secleinteerbut where is the best?11:55
sethkJman8888, one of those will probably show one big ntfs (or fat) partition11:55
secleinteerjust wondering, since i have the option to put it wherever i want right now11:55
ubunewbsecleinter: on the hard drive is prob. the best, but it is up to you11:56
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slouchersecleinteer: swap is hardly used nowadays anyway11:56
secleinteerk11:56
bascule_JoseStefan: and just have the .deb files in a directory and the 'add repository' in synaptic will identify all the packages? i'm used to mandrivas urpmi so i have to ask :)11:56
fishysloucher, I've asked the question three times without a response. I need to get sound to play in Flash files.11:56
sethksloucher, depends on how much memory the machine has, and how many users11:56
fishy:)11:56
GUIPEnguin_why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an x86 Pentium4      I can do  aptitude update  fine..11:56
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JoseStefanbascule_, not sure. You might be better with a distro which supplies more CDs11:57
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fishy!update11:57
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.11:57
JoseStefanbascule_, you could also invest on a DVD drive11:57
nzxhey, what package do i need to install to get "pear pager and pear net_url" ?11:57
slouchersethk: yes, true - so where do you put the swap - beginning, end?11:57
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brandon_what package is xvid in?11:58
StephenL!help11:58
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:58
Fo0pfack11:58
Jman8888sethk: /dev/hda1   *           1         498     4000153+  83  Linux11:58
Jman8888/dev/hda2             499         524      208845    5  Extended11:58
Jman8888/dev/hda5             499         524      208813+  82  Linux swap / Solaris11:58
Jman8888?11:58
Fo0p!help11:58
Jman8888Oops11:58
Jman8888Forgot pastebin11:58
JoseStefan!tell Jman8888 about paste11:58
sethksloucher, it really depends on the disk layout.  If you have a separate disk for swap (and swapping is actually occuring) you gain some performance11:58
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Jman8888JoseStefan: Already know pasebin11:58
StephenL!search startup11:58
bascule_JoseStefan: it's an old machine i'm giving away, maybe i'll try a debian install, i know that can come on a few cds, though my last install of debian a few years ago wasn't pretty11:58
sethkJman8888, ok, put hdb on the paste bin; hda is obviously the linux disk11:58
StephenL!search *startup*11:59
ubunewbfrom what i have experienced debian installs have come a long way over the last few years!11:59
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dr|zedhttp://www.allpeers.com/download/indexf.htm11:59
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JoseStefanbascule_, you could also build the whole environment using the internet, and then when it's ready hand it over11:59
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grimboyRhythmbox is crashing for me when it starts up. Does anyone know where it keeps its libary database so I can delete it?12:00
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