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basbryanIntangir: same error....12:01
Intangirhrm.. wtf12:01
Intangirtry just .. apt-get install gnome-terminal?12:01
FlamekebabI don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?12:01
basbryanIntangir: hold on12:01
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gnomefreakJack_Sparrow: kubuntu  works fine in dapper and edgy atm12:01
Jack_Sparrowgnomefreak: I have had nothing but problems with Kubuntu and noting but praise of Ubuntu12:01
Intangiroh wait.. well12:01
basbryanIntangir: aptitude gave better output i miised it12:01
Intangiryou could try apt-get update first12:01
verixAZzKikR: what flag tells this file that ath0/eth0/1/2 or whatever is the default gateway? I don't see any indications...12:01
synicverix: route add defaul gw <address> dev ath012:01
gnomefreakIntangir: why downgrading terminal?12:01
Intangirthe repo was down for me earlier though12:01
verixsynic: ah okay12:01
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window12:02
basbryanIntangir: gnome-terminal-data needs to be downgraded to downgrade gnome-terminal12:02
Intangirgnomefreak: hes got issues with one of the newer versions possibly12:02
happy-and-lostWireless anyone? Intell 2200GB. It's got a driver, it's enabled, it's connected... but it's only recieving empty packets. Why?!12:02
verixis <address> an IP or MacAddr?12:02
Jack_Sparrowgnomefreak: And I have never really liked Gnome.. but it works...12:02
synican ip12:02
gnomefreakbasbryan: alot more than just that12:02
MotorCityMadMan1how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?12:02
verixk12:02
basbryanIntangir: i updated 30 min ago12:02
jason__I have a pretty simple question.  What is the equivalent of the Windows "run" program in Ubuntu?  I've been looking it up but have been unsuccessful12:02
jvaireset your router12:02
basbryanjason__: alt-f212:02
verixjason__: Applications > Accessories > Terminal12:02
AZzKikRwhat kind of interface is an ath0 interface?12:02
gnomefreakIntangir: basbryan if im not mistaken you need to downgrade a crap load of packages12:02
verixwireless12:02
Jack_Sparrowjason__: What are you trying to run?12:03
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AZzKikRi've only seen ra0 and eth0 kinds12:03
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verixath0 = atheros based wireless12:03
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AZzKikRah12:03
FlamekebabI don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?12:03
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ubuntuhi12:03
Intangirgnomefreak: that aptitude takes care of downgrading dependancies also, thats why i told him use aptitude12:03
lupinewmaster0 is fun :)12:03
Intangirapt-get just complains12:03
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Intangirbut for me even the very newest versions from quinn work fine12:03
JoseStefanFlamekebab, ask in #unbuntu-xgl12:03
Intangirnow.. i think they got rid of some12:03
gnomefreakIntangir: sometimes but this case it should12:03
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JoseStefanoops #ubuntu-xgl12:04
jvaimy hoary backports r broke .... but all's good tho12:04
FlamekebabI just thought it might be an easy "yes or no" question12:04
IntangirFlamekebab: probably12:04
AZzKikRJoseStefan: i always type unbuntu by accident too :P12:04
IntangirFlamekebab: i bet you can12:04
jhutchins_ltIs there a way to enable a serial mouse with the live CD?12:04
AndyCoollLaptop wireless help needed12:04
seancan anyone help me on why my downloads stop downloading?12:04
JoseStefanFlamekebab, i really dont know, you might even have to go as far as getting 3rd party compiz+xgl repositories12:04
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seanhttp://71.139.0.188:23456/images/DownloadStopping.png is the screenshot12:05
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AndyCoollI have a Toshiba Satellite with Belkin PCMCIA wireless notebook card12:05
seanif anyone wants to help12:05
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JoseStefanAZzKikR, do not disassemble Johnny Five12:05
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ubuntujhutchins_lt:  mouse wont work?12:05
ubuntukeep the cat out :D12:05
AndyCoollWhen I try to login it just hangs12:05
IntangirAndyCooll: log in where?12:05
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HNThello everybody, i try to install the nvidia driver but i'v got a problem at the start of Xorg, he said me that the nvidia kernel module have a different number that the nvidia binary (nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common) howto fix it ?12:05
MotorCityMadMan1how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?12:06
JoseStefanAZzKikR, ...unbuntu is not good :|12:06
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1:  wab is windows address book12:06
AndyCoollOn first login, just putting in my name and password12:06
flyingcircus97what's up with Xorg?12:06
AndyCoollAccepts the password but doesn't get as far as the desktop12:07
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IntangirHNT: sec..12:07
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, specifically ?12:07
ubuntuAndyCooll: can u login in console?12:07
seanokay12:07
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flyingcircus97After an update last night, Xorg is broken, X server failed to start.12:07
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seannevermind guys12:07
seanit just timed out12:07
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: yes true. how can i convet that file ?12:07
Jack_SparrowMotorCityMadMan1: what created the wab ?12:07
AndyCoollubuntu: yes12:07
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, you'll need to do another update, thru the CLI12:07
IntangirHNT: you need to get nvidia-glx, and the linux-restricted-modules package that matched your kernel12:07
MotorCityMadMan1outlook12:08
JoseStefanflyingcircus97, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade12:08
Jack_SparrowMotorCityMadMan1: OUtlook should export a csv file12:08
flyingcircus97Thanks. So they fixed it already.12:08
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AZzKikRwell, no way im gonna update at the moment :D12:08
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javaJakeHello guys12:08
ali4728Help needed...!  I am trying to copy files from mounted wondows partition to my linux partition "cp"  because file and folder names have space in "W" I get error any suggestions?12:08
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: mozilla thunderbird may be able to import a .wab file12:08
javaJakeali4728, what?12:09
MotorCityMadMan1yes thank you. i was trying to convert the file with out leaveing linux12:09
JoseStefanali4728, try using cp with quotes12:09
jake1yay download is done12:09
javaJakeOr, put a \ before spaces12:09
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AZzKikRali4728: to copy files or folders, you'd have to prepend the space with a \12:09
javaJakeI have my own problem12:09
ali4728JoseStefan: thanx thats clever12:09
AndyCoollubuntu: though if I try "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" for instance that hangs the console too12:09
javaJakeA seemingly random kernel crash12:09
javaJakeWith direct rendering enabled12:10
jhutchins_ltI'm using kubuntu to copy an old disk to a new one using tar, and for some reason it kept spinning up the CD, so I ejected it.12:10
javaJakeNothing in the logs12:10
happy-and-lostMy router is working fine (connected now) my wifi card has a driver and is enabled, it's connected with 95% signal strength... but it's recieving empty packets. Why?12:10
IntangirAndyCooll: are you using NIS?12:10
javaJakeBut the card is an ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY12:10
HNTIntangir : yes but the problem is that nvidia-glx require linux-restricted-modules for a 2.6.15.23 kernel and i'm running with a 2.6.15.21 (default) so ... ?12:10
javaJakeWith OPENGL! YEA!12:10
jhutchins_ltThen I tried to edit xorg.conf (to enable my mouse) and POOF - locked the system.12:10
MotorCityMadMan1fluvvell: thunderbird will not import a wab file12:10
IntangirHNT: upgrade your kernel? hehe12:10
AndyCoollIntangir: NIS?12:10
jhutchins_ltSpeaking of logs, where do they live on kubuntu?  I'm used to /var/log/messages12:10
JoseStefanHNT, you might need to update your kernel12:10
lupinehappy-and-lost: dodgy driver or firmware?12:10
edulixhi!12:10
jvai@happy- sumtymes it's concast or verizon... u may have to reset your router12:10
javaJakeVAR/LOG12:10
edulixhey where can I find a xgl live cd?12:11
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1:  do u have kmail?12:11
javaJakeJoseStefan, are you talking to me?12:11
happy-and-lostIt's a fresh install12:11
HNTk thanks12:11
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cafuegoHNT: The latest (fixed) kernel is 2.6.15-2612:11
happy-and-lostHaven't touched it. Intel 2200BG12:11
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: looking12:11
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: sry, it may have been within windows i did that.  You can import into tb from outlook in the windows version.12:11
JoseStefanjavaJake, nope12:11
javaJakeOK12:11
javaJake:P12:11
JoseStefanjavaJake, now i am12:11
javaJakeHaha12:11
flyingcircus97Thanks for the advice, Jose, Xorg is up.12:11
javaJakeCan ya help?12:11
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JoseStefanflyingcircus97, ok np12:11
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belochello12:12
belocil y a des frenchy12:12
fluvvellMotorCityMadMan1: any idea of the structure of the .wab file? I don't have one to look at for now. Many things can be converted, its just a matter of by what method.12:12
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that12:12
javaJakeATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY + Direct Rendering enabled = kernel hard crash = HEEEEELP!12:12
JoseStefanjavaJake, dont know :(12:12
IntangirjavaJake: upgrade your driver? or get an nvidia ;)12:12
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Intangiroh its in a laptop isn it..12:12
ali4728AZzKikR  is it like this?  "this is win file"    "this\ is \ win \file"12:12
javaJakeIntangir, latest kernel (2.16.XX-26-306)12:12
javaJakeIntangir, yes12:13
rnd_nulli just installed ubuntu 6.06 on an Averatec 2200 and am having trouble with the wireless card, anyone able to lend a hand?12:13
AZzKikRali4728: yeah12:13
javaJakernd_null12:13
MotorCityMadMan1fluvvell: structure ? how do i know ?12:13
javaJakeYes12:13
Intangirupdate your video drivers too though12:13
ali4728AZzKikR: thnx12:13
javaJakeIntangir, how?12:13
Intangirfor ati? i have no idea12:13
javaJakeIntangir, I have all updates - xorg (ugh) installed12:13
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Intangiri couldnt figure out how to install proper ATI drivers on this crapp card i got, im using vesa12:13
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javaJakeIt's the radeon driver that comes with the kernel12:13
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Intangirthe video driver, on newer cards comes from ATI somehow12:13
Intangirolder ones have an open source driver you can use12:14
AZzKikRali4728: another example:  cp -R /media/windows/Program\ Files ~/myProgramFiles/12:14
javaJakeWell, proprietary ones don't work - they only work on the newer ones12:14
jake1is there a particular reason why when i am installing Ubuntu from boot CD does only a portion of my screen show up12:14
JoseStefanjavaJake, you might be loading unsupported xorg modules for your gfx card12:14
ubuntuanu luck?12:14
javaJakeThis card is at least 3 years old12:14
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jake1it makes the installer unusable12:14
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: any luck dude?12:14
ubuntudo u have kmail?12:14
javaJakeJoseStefan, so radeon is unsupported!?12:14
sholdenHas anyone tried setting the hot key for Gnome Deskbar?  I am trying to set the hot key to <ALT>` but it is not working.  I've been toying with it for a while, but can't find any good documentation.  Any suggestions?12:14
javaJakeGLX!?12:14
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: i can install kmail. will that work ?12:14
javaJakeGLcore!?12:14
JoseStefanjavaJake, i mean specific xorg modules12:14
javaJakeNope12:14
javaJakeNot really12:14
javaJakeThey're all pretty generic12:15
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: it has tool called kamilcvt download both, it will convert wab12:15
javaJakeJust took the right configuration to get it to work12:15
ubuntu:)12:15
AZzKikRjavaJake: radeon is supported, i got a radeon X800 myself12:15
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DooMRunneRdoes anyone knows a powerfull alternative to rythmbox, not so winamp like things as xmms or beep?12:15
javaJakeAZzKikR, my point exactly12:15
ubuntuDooMRunneR:  amarok12:15
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: how about 'Listen'?12:15
IntangirDooMRunneR: i heard one called like amoroka or something.. i dont remember..12:15
javaJakeamorak12:16
javaJakeOr something...12:16
javaJakeLOL12:16
AZzKikRamaroK12:16
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Intangirya that sounds about right12:16
DravasI wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that12:16
javaJake:P12:16
jake1if my laptop has a DVD drive does that mean it can boot from DVD12:16
DooMRunneRi know amarok, but works not good under gnome12:16
Intangirits supposed to be powerful, and not winamp like12:16
DravasIts really annoyunh12:16
jake1or only CD12:16
MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu: the motorcitymadman runs over to his box of tools. Plz stand bye12:16
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: kmailcvt it is in synaptic type , apt-get install kmailcvt12:16
javaJakejake1, depends on your BIOS12:16
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: then take a look at Listen12:16
ubuntuMotorCityMadMan1: ok12:16
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mistraalanyone know how to change the home directory for suexec?12:16
JoseStefanjake1, usally both cd or dvd, but depends on bios12:16
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IntangirDravas: does that by default for me..12:16
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DravasWell Its not for me12:17
DravasI have to click on teh edge of the window12:17
Jack_Sparrowjake, not 100%...12:17
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, take one, thank you12:17
javaJakeTo check that out, go INTO your BIOS (by pushing the right F1-12 key) and check the boot list12:17
IntangirDravas: your on gnome?12:17
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DravasIntangir yes12:17
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, is listen available in the repos?12:17
jake1javaJake: would you think a computer purchased like two days ago would do that, considering lots of software is on DVD nowadays12:17
DravasI am on gnome12:17
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Intangirthats freaky. you musta accidently toggled something for it to do that12:18
Dravas:\12:18
javaJakejake1, I'd say, yes, most likely12:18
Intangirthere should be a metacity, or gnome option somewhere to change it back12:18
javaJakejake1, newer computers do it12:18
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: not by default12:18
Dravasbbl12:18
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javaJakejake1, as long as it IS new, and isn't refurbished, etc.12:18
Jack_Sparrowjake1: A new computer should boot to DVD but it MUST be set to look at the DVD in the boot sequence... Usually get to bios/cmos with the delete key during the memory check12:18
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: but i believe the website provides a repository location, i'll look it up12:18
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, cant find anything about it in google12:19
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LEMONed_ok, I seem to of go the livecd to work but I'm still having trouble, ubuntu seems to start up fine and brings me to a red desktop, I hear a login tingle tangle tune and then gives me a red background with a mouse that I can move around.... nothing else I'm a linux noob and was wondering what I've done wrong?12:19
javaJakeShows how much I know12:19
javaJake:P12:19
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jake1yea i do know how to make it boot from CD12:19
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, cool thank you12:19
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javaJakeWell, I'm going to try some other IRC channels12:19
Solkarisanyone know how to fix a problem with internet connection only partially working?12:19
javaJakeIf anyone here is an expert with X or ATI, let me know12:19
javaJakeI'll be on under the name "javaJake" for the next 15 minutes12:19
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javaJakeLEAVE #ubuntu12:20
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: take a look at http://listengnome.free.fr/ it provides information, screenshots and a repository location for Dapper 6.0612:20
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, got it http://listengnome.free.fr/, thanx12:20
javaJakeRats12:20
DooMRunneR:D12:20
AZzKikRno problem :D12:20
JoseStefanjavaJake, try a reconfigure of xserver-xorg, and disable any modules you dont use12:20
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jordanaui want to make a custon ubuntu distro taylored towards a specific business, where would i get started12:20
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cjonesjordanau what kind of biz ?12:20
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jake1now on another note........ i tried earlier to install Ubuntu on my AMD 64 Turion ML-32 Acer Aspire 5003WLMi notebook and i got the load screen where it told me to hit 'ENTER' for default installation (or something like that) i did, and then after that the installer only showed up on a small section of my monitor making it impossible to see what i was selecting and what not12:20
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ubuntulater guys12:21
jake1it also does this on the Live CD12:21
ubuntutc12:21
jake1any ideas of what that could be12:21
jordanauconstruction/architecture12:21
jake1i was considering trying to install it from the alternate installer on the website12:21
jordanaucjones, ^^12:21
JoseStefanjake1, you could try that12:21
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cjonesjordanau that sounds like fun are you thinking adding some cad stuff?12:21
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jordanaucjones, yeah cad, scheduling, spreadsheet, groupware, accounting etc12:22
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jordanaucjones, interested?12:22
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cjonestheres already spreadsheet in ubuntu12:22
John[1] What is the command to start the xserver in dapper?12:22
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AZzKikRstartx?12:23
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MotorCityMadMan1ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package kamilcvt12:23
IntangirJohn[1] : what are you trying to do with it?12:23
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Intangirtheres different ways to start it12:23
MotorCityMadMan1kmail installed12:23
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jordanaucjones, yes i know but i would eliminate games, extras, etc12:23
John[1] start up the gnome desktop.12:23
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AZzKikRisn't gdm used to start the gnome desktop?12:23
jordanaugdm start or gdm restart12:24
DooMRunneRAZzKikR, thank you again, thats the thing ive searched for :D12:24
Intangirgdm starts it up with the login manager12:24
cjonesjordanau have you thought about just starting with debian12:24
BlueEaglejake1: There is an option for VGA safe mode12:24
AZzKikRDooMRunneR: no problem :D i am beginning to get interested in Listen myself atm :P12:24
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BlueEaglejake1: hit F4 instead of Enter on the boot screen.12:24
jordanauyes, but i like the hardware detection of ubuntu12:24
BlueEaglejake1: or something like that. It's a menu at the bottom of the screen.12:25
Intangirwhats listen?12:25
AZzKikRIntangir: a music player using GTK12:25
jordanaucjones, ^12:25
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John[1] is the command start gdm?12:25
Intangiris it really any better than others? like xmms? i still use xmms hehe12:25
AZzKikRIntangir: comparable with amaroK12:25
nickerssI just downloaded the desktop iso of ubuntu how do i get it to run without installing it?12:25
jordanauJohn[1] , no gdm start12:25
AZzKikRJohn[1] : gdm start12:25
KragneracHello, I am going to install Ubuntu 6.06 (got the Live CD running right now). I am trying to choose between the ext3, reiser4, and XFS filesystems. My partition size is 33973. I want to know which one would be the most efficient for my partition?12:25
Intangirsudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:25
amee2kafter login something keeps filling up my RAM and swap space, however the system monitor doesn't show anything anormal. how can i find out which process is going wild?12:25
cjonesjordanau well put12:25
Kragnerac*33973 MB12:25
John[1] I get command not found12:25
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IntangirKragnerac: ext3 is most common12:26
AZzKikRJohn[1] : like Intangir said: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:26
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JoseStefanJohn[1] : or restart instead12:26
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IntangirJohn[1] : you might want to use stop first just to make sure its dead12:26
synicamee2k: how do you know?12:26
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nickersscan you really run ubuntu from the .iso without installing?12:27
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amee2kbecause of the system monitor in my panel12:27
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synicamee2k: what does it say?12:28
Intangirnickerss: if you get the live CD, yes12:28
nickerssi got the desktop cd for mac12:28
JoseStefannickerss, after burning it to a CD :P12:28
amee2kuser memory: 1.7G of 2G, used swap 850M of 3.8G12:28
nickerssohh ok12:28
nickerssthanks12:28
amee2kand counting...12:28
nickerssjust boot to it?12:28
amee2kand that is definitely NOT normal, considering a normal RAM usage of <500M12:29
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amee2kany ideas?12:29
JoseStefannickerss, yes12:30
xxporis software update screwing up compiz?12:30
amee2ki'm trying to post a screenshot but that takes time atm12:30
synicamee2k: you running 64bit?12:30
bbrazilamee2k: agressive swappiness (tuneable), caching files (normal)12:30
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amee2kyep, 64 bit, AMD6412:30
synicamee2k: sounds normal to me.12:30
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amee2kNORMAL?!12:31
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amee2kthat it spontaneously uses 3 gigs when idle?12:31
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synicamee2k: view the processes and sort by resident memory12:32
amee2kwell, now 4 gigs12:32
JoseStefanamee2k, i think ubuntu takes up spare memory for caching12:32
amee2kalready tried, even with "all processes", it doesn't show something wrong12:32
JoseStefanis there a compact way to show the info on "free"12:33
amee2kJoseStefan: that's NOT caching. cache memory is shown separately12:33
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JoseStefani'm not running much and i am at: 774808     752812      21996  (total,used,free)12:33
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synicamee2k: what does the top item in that list show for "resident memory" ?12:34
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amee2k39M12:34
amee2kthat's mozilla atm. trying to post the screenshot12:34
MotorCityMadMan1just what does this mean ?  ~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 13665, errno = 012:34
amee2knext one is nautilus with 28M12:34
MotorCityMadMan1i think it wood be good if i shorten my user name12:35
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IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: thats bad12:35
MotorCityMadMan1what is ?12:35
IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: what are you doing when you get that error?12:36
amee2khttp://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmemgk7.png12:36
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itrebalminor issue with my ubuntu installation... i just installed it, and its going through about to configure everything and the like and its on the very first part saying "preparing for installation" after it reboots12:36
JoseStefanamee2k, try sorting top by mem%12:36
MotorCityMadMan1Intangir: working with a shell12:36
itrebalit doesn't respond after a while so i go to tty2 and check on it with 'top' and its taking up 99% CPU and not doing anything12:36
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wikijeffDoes anyone know why there isn't an entry for my ALPS touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices ???? My touchpad isn't responding to anything.12:37
amee2khow do i sort in top?12:37
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MotorCityMadMan1also this / X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:37
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JoseStefanamee2k, press x, then b, then >12:38
FantasticFoois it safe to update to the newer version of X now? or is that update still the shitty one12:38
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rredd4yes12:38
jvaiwow, does adding more applets to the panel use more memory?12:38
jvaiwow..12:38
JoseStefanamee2k, by default that should end up sorting by mem, you could press h for help12:38
argumentFantasticFoo, that update was fine for me12:38
rredd4FantasticFoo  do sudo apt-get update    first12:38
amee2keach keypress on that box takes almost a minute now12:38
Intangiramee2k: i think something has gone terribly wrong12:39
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argumentFantasticFoo, yeh, you'll wanna have the rest of your system up to date anyhow12:39
JoseStefanamee2k, you might want to sort by cpu too, something is eating up resources12:39
wikijeffAnyone??? Can anyone even see this??12:39
rredd4yes12:39
argumentwikijeff, yes12:39
IntangirMotorCityMadMan1: i always get that when running qt apps, it doesnt seem to mean anything12:39
itrebalanyone know what might be causing this strange behavior? i've restarted it a few times but its not rixing it12:39
amee2kthe lag is caused by excessive bus I/O12:39
argumentitrebal, hey you use ubuntu too eh?12:39
MotorCityMadMan1kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.12:39
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itrebalargument: trying :/12:39
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itrebal:)12:40
argumentheheh trying? lol12:40
itrebalyea - it was going great, supported my usb and sata drives with the stock kernel12:40
MotorCityMadMan1going to shorten name12:40
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x1977xhi folks,, im new,,. can anyone help me with this: i have a sata HD which is where ubuntu is installed (alone--no windows); i also have ntfs HD (not sata,, whats that, IDE?) with all my stuff on it (just storage, no OS).  when i boot my computer, it fails, unless i press f12 and tell it to boot from the correct HD.. how do i alter the BIOS to have it boot that HD automatically?12:40
itrebaland then BAM - i restart after the initial installation and it doesn't work12:40
itrebalx1977x: i'd recommend trying #hardware12:41
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gb453What is the best way to get WPA working in 6.06?12:41
lupinex1977x: bios should have an option to let you select the default boot device12:41
Intangirx1977x: just browse around your bios, thers bound to be an option for it12:41
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teimuis it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?12:41
itrebalargument: its rather irritating :/12:41
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x1977xcool, ty :)12:41
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god_hey guys, can anyone help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242132 ?12:41
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amee2kit is snhelper - 1.5g VIRT, 73 %MEM12:42
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lhdshello there. i want to ask about that program that lets you turn on and off the boot modules... what was its name? like hp printing, smb, logging etc12:43
amee2kwhat is snhelper and how can i get rid of it?12:43
JoseStefanamee2k, you can kill it, but i would make sure what it is first12:43
mitchlhds: bum?12:43
amee2knever heard of it12:43
itrebalhave you thought about snhelper's feelings?12:43
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beowuffgod_ do "ps-ef | grep mysqld". Does it list mysqld?12:43
JoseStefanitrebal, he will respawn on someone elses computer :D12:43
tomasz27what do I need to run Dreamweaver in Ubuntu?12:43
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itrebaltomasz27: practice... LOTS of practice12:44
virogenesistomasz27, try aptana12:44
god_god      15012 10750  0 23:44 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysqld12:44
bean-ohtomasz27, probably wine and free time12:44
synictomasz27: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=dreamweavermx12:44
teimuis it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?12:44
jvailol.. Screem's a bettr fit.. & it's in repos12:44
lhdsyes its bum12:44
lhdsthanx for the info12:44
amee2kitrebal: yes12:44
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tomasz27thank you all12:44
virogenesistomasz27,  do you use code view or what?12:44
amee2kno man page, no which output12:45
itrebalalright this is seriously bugging me12:45
beowuffgod_ looks like mysql is not running. Check mysql's log. Probably under /var/log/mysql. I don't know as I don't run mysql. Also, try asking on mysql forum/irc.12:45
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tomasz27design and code views12:45
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amee2khm... seems part of vmware. i'll go and ask there12:46
virogenesisahh alright tomasz27  take a look at http://www.aptana.com12:46
itrebalargument: you wouldn't have any idea on how to get this to work, would you?12:46
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god_beowuff the mysql logs are no help12:46
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tomasz27ok12:46
tomasz27 thanks12:46
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skipp_OSXhello, need help setting up Ubuntu as an nis client12:47
teimudashriKe, dual boot. wine is okay for older games, with some exceptions, but with win, programs run the way they are supposed to. no patching problems, official drivers for vid and aud12:47
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teimuwell, now i will rephrase. how should i go about making breezy into dapper?12:48
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beowuffgod_ for some reason mysqld is not running. If it was, it should have shown up with the ps-ef | grep mysqld. If it trys to start, it should write to the log file why. You can try /etc/init.d/mysqld start. You will probably have to run it as root.12:48
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dashriKeI wonder if they well release a linux version of it?12:48
skipp_OSXI have a FreeBSD box setup as an nis server and I have Ubuntu 6.06 setup as a client but for some reason I can't seem to login with any nis users12:48
synicdashriKe: I wouldn't doubt it.12:48
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synicdashriKe: they've been pretty good about supporting linux12:48
teimudashriKe, well, luckily, thats an id game. they usually port thier stuff for us12:48
god_i've tried that, the result is show in that link i posted12:48
teimuisnt their some ubuntu_teacher or lessons or school channel?12:49
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estalocai'm trying to get 3d acceleration working for my ati card on dapper on AMD 64. When i type in fglrxinfo I get "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!".  I followed the guides, no success. Anyone know what I can do?12:50
paroneayeawhy on earth did the ubuntu developers decide to have the whole gnome desktop depend on gamin?????12:50
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dashriKeI hope they do12:50
dashriKethat is a game I plan on actually buying12:50
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beowuffgod_ I hate to say it, but this looks like a problem with mysql, and would probably be better delt with by mysql users. Have you tried asking in #mysql?12:51
Flamekebabarse barbeque, so THAT'S why cipherfunk isn't working any more..12:51
x1977xitrebal: i checked #hardware and got some really good help.  thanks for the tip!12:51
fauxparoneayea, so that thet can keep track of changes in the filesystem?12:51
Sapakihi any help in configuring my wireless adaptor for ubuntu 5.1012:51
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paroneayeafaux: I know, but it's a terrible decision.  Not everyone wants it.12:52
jordanauif i want to install another linux distro all i have to do is resize my present partition right?12:52
god_thanks beowuff, i'll ask there12:52
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fauxparoneayea, why? I find it pretty much essential12:52
tchmnkyzhey all, i followed the restricted formats page and still dont have a working system to play xvid files what else can i do?12:52
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paroneayeathere's no reason it should be a dependency... it should be an option.12:52
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estalocahave anyone successfully installed xgl/compiz?12:52
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gnomefreakestaloca: try #ubuntu-xgl12:53
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paroneayeafaux: it both slows things down, and in the project I am working on I have a script which unmounts the device on which the user's home directory resides after they log out... now such a thing can't be done for several minutes after the user logs out due to gamin staring at the home directory for a while12:54
estalocagnomefreak: thanks12:54
gnomefreakestaloca: yw12:54
paroneayeait also generally slows down the system, so I can't see any reason why it should be essential... it shoudl be optional.12:54
__root___whats a good text based programe thaTS like xmms that you can run from the command prompt12:54
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fauxparoneayea, I thought most locking issues were resolved12:55
tchmnkyzxmms can be ran from the cmd12:55
synic__root___: mp3blaster12:55
paroneayeafaux: hm.  Maybe I should update the system.  How long ago were these to have been solved?12:55
__root___synic i get "unabel to open display"12:55
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bubu1uk__root__: i recommend mp3blaster too. is very nice and good12:55
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__root___bubu1uk can i apt-get install it ?\12:56
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John[1] Looks like I'm stuck again at 15% install.12:56
John[1] On the desktop install that is.12:56
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bubu1uk__root__: dunno, search for it. i had it on gentoo box12:56
paroneayeadoesn't look like there's any update in the next upgrade12:56
fauxparoneayea, at the time when fam was replaced by gamin, which was pretty long ago12:57
__root___ok12:57
__root___thanks12:57
tchmnkyzanyone with the restricted file formats12:57
__root___anybody in hera know much about luynks12:57
__root___links12:57
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paroneayeaat any rate, I still think this should be optional12:57
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TonrenGah... this is the second time my install has hung, on two different parts12:58
TonrenOnce while copying files, and now while "setting upt eh clock"12:58
TonrenI guess I'll just wait longer12:58
fauxparoneayea, so file a bug about it :)12:58
paroneayeafaux: fair enough12:58
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__root___every time i start links to surf the web i it hangs up at a blinking curser ?12:59
John[1] well i'm at 33%12:59
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John[1] Wow, made it all the way to 45% now.  This is the 3rd try to install.01:00
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riddleboxhello, if I wanted to upgrade to edgy eft, would I just replace dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy?01:02
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bean-ohanyone familiar with setting up serial devices?01:02
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TonrenHey guys, what does it mean if my live CD GUI installer hangs?01:02
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riddleboxbean-oh, well I have been working on a serial remote, I may be able to help01:02
TonrenJohn[1] : is yours hanging too?01:02
The_Kid123hey yall, just got ubuntu installed on my old computer01:03
The_Kid123just don't have it on the 'net01:03
John[1] My installer has hung about 3 times, its working now.01:03
bean-ohriddlebox, i have a problem, my serial port (ttyS0) wasn't being detected properly. it was using an "undefined" UART. I poked around a bit, and found the place to hard-code it to 16550A (which it is), and it still won't work with minicom.01:03
The_Kid123hey yall, got a problem w/ drivers01:04
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cjoneshow do you take a screen shot when your useing someing like lynx or bitchx ?01:04
riddleboxbean-oh, you may want to use an app called setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart .....01:04
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bean-ohcjones, i believe bitchx does logging, and i think you can save pages with lynx01:05
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bean-ohriddlebox, yes, tried that too. on boot it doesn't save it, so i set it up in another place. either way, setserial doesn't really help01:05
monteiroanyone knows a away to disable the touchpad ?01:06
cjonesbean-oh01:06
cjonesbean-oh thanks01:06
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riddleboxbean-oh, sorry then, thats what I had to do to get my lirc drivers to see my irblaster01:06
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bean-ohriddlebox, most i've gotten it to do is flood login prompts from the serial console until the device on the other end gets annoyed at the flood and kills the the connection01:07
lhdshow to make a deb file out of a source file?01:07
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wikijeffAnyone know why there isn't an entry for my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices?? My touchpad isn't working now.01:07
riddleboxbean-oh, sounds like fun :p01:07
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bean-ohriddlebox, yeah, not much! haha it works 100% fine on my workstation. just doesn't like the serial port on my laptop.01:08
mischkoHow do I configure my wireless network card on Ubuntu Server?01:08
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mischkoI'm using WPA-PSK and TKIP.01:08
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tehsuI am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes at 57%01:09
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itrebalalright i just reinstalled it all and its still failing01:09
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itrebalafter i install everything, reboot, and it comes up to finish the installation it stops responding01:09
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tehsuAnyone know why the install freezes?01:10
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tehsuboots up fine into live cd01:10
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lhdsafter tar xzvf the file i need to install it . i downloaded checkinstall and in ,/configure but it returns no such file or dir whats wrong?01:10
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npodgesis there a "configure" file, ihds?01:11
seananyone know the cd burner program to burn an iso image?01:11
lhdsthere is a single file01:11
rambo3sean k3b01:11
npodgessean, gnomebaker too01:11
carthiksean, in nautilus, right click on the iso and choose burn01:11
npodgesor nautilus01:11
tuxtuxnotte a tutti01:12
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wweaselI would use natilus if I just wanted to burn an iso, as carthik said.01:12
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pushpopAny Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?01:13
rambo3pushpop, yes01:13
seank01:13
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seanthanks01:13
pushpopcool, do you use a tuner card or firewire?01:13
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SitouhWould anyone be willing to help a relative Linux novice set up wpa-supplicant?01:13
AnubuntuHello, I need some help, I booted up my system and grub gave me error 17, what does this mean and how does one fix it?01:14
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rambo3! wifi > Sitouh01:14
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wweaselSitouh: wpa_supplicant should be already setup in Dapper.01:15
rambo3Anubuntu, your partition where boot/grub/ is too far for bios to read01:15
misieqis there a low-level disk checking software? that won't only check partitions but also mbr/whole disk because there seems to be problem with my hdd that fsck can't handle with01:15
mischko! wifi > mischko01:15
SitouhDapper?01:15
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wweaselSitouh: Sorry. In the latest version of Ubuntu.01:15
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wweaselSitouh: It is preinstalled.01:15
Anubunturambo3: well can you give me a solution, since my windows disk is at the beginning of the drive?01:15
tnzrSitouh: what card01:15
Sitouhtnzr: Airlink 101 PCMCIA01:16
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tnzrdoes the card show up in iwconfig?01:16
rambo3Anubuntu, boot from floppy or move ubuntu partition or what ever partition you can put grub on closer to start of disk01:16
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wweaselSitouh: Does it work fine without WPA?01:16
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Anubunturambo3: is there any way to do this without damaging the windows partition?01:17
Sitouhtnzr: Yes, it does01:17
Anubunturambo3: since its at the beginning of the drive?01:17
pushpoprambo3: do you use firewire for mythtv or a tuner card?01:17
Sitouhwweasel: I don't know - I don't have a non-WPA network handy to connect to.01:18
rambo3pushpop, tuner card01:18
lhdsis there  a utility for applying Blackbox themes to applications ?01:18
wweaselSitouh: Are you able to temporarily turn down the security on your router?01:18
pushpoprambo3: you know anything about configuring it with usb?01:18
pushpoprambo3: I mean firewire01:18
rambo3no01:18
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rambo3ask in #mythtv-users or search ubuntu forums01:19
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misieq! vdr > misieq01:19
justin_Where can I find the "add/remove" list in Ubuntu - for programs not in Synaptic?01:20
John[1] I just got a eroor that said grub failed to load or install and then a error that said installer failed.01:20
rambo3Anubuntu, i dont realy know much about resizing . but its doable01:20
wweaseljustin_: Add/remove won't let you isntall programs that aren't in synaptic01:21
John[1] What next to fix or is it hosed?01:21
npodgescan someone give me a link on how to theme the screen before gdm launches?01:21
npodgesor explain it01:21
Sitouhwweasel: Hold on - just got the router password01:21
itrebalwoo! i did a non "expert" install and it works... ijust have to go through and configure things01:21
wweaselSitouh: np. I am just wondering if your problem is with WPA, or the network card itself.01:21
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justin_wweasel: Well what I am wondering is - do I have to mentally keep track of all the DEBS I install? - Like the complete file name etc, when I want to un-install them?01:22
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wweaseljustin_: Nope. You can remove some things by unticking them in Add/Remove. Synaptic is the most powerful tool though01:22
bbraziljustin_: if you run aptitude, it'll give you a list of manually installed and obselete debs01:22
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wweaseljustin_: You can search through your installed debs and right click and remove any of them you want.01:23
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Sitouhwweasel: It works fine when I boot in Windows01:23
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gb453How can i configure wpa_supplicant to work with a prism 2.5 wavelan (orinoco driver)?01:24
justin_wweasel: Yes I know how Synaptic works, I am talking about Debs I manually installed that were not in synaptic, bbrazil - Thnks, i'll give it a shot01:24
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pushpopis "make" a valid command in ubuntu?01:24
wweaseljustin_: Synaptic gives them a category all to themselves. Hold on, I'll pull it up01:24
bbraziljustin_: also, you only need to keep track of the package name, maybe also the version01:24
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bbrazilpushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential01:24
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wweaseljustin_: Open up Synaptic, on the sidebar on the left see Installed (local or obsolete).01:25
wweaseljustin_: this will have all of your locally installed debs01:25
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tehsuI'm using ubuntu live, and if I try to install, it freezes at 57%01:25
tehsuDoes anyone know why it would freeze?01:26
justin_wweasel: I do not seem to have this menu in Synaptic01:26
itrebaltehsu: what kind of install?01:26
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Tonrenpushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential01:26
tehsu6.06.101:26
beowufftehsu, have you tried another disk? Maybe it's a bad burn...01:26
wweaselSitouh: Yep. Wireless can be a supreme pain in Linux. But there are two possible problems here if you can't connect to your WPA network. It's possible WPA isn't configured, but I think it may be more likely that the network card isn't properly configured. That's why we should try connecting to something WEP or unencrypted.01:26
tehsuinstalling through ubuntu01:26
npodgessudo aptitude install make01:26
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wweaseljustin_: Go to status (below the sidebar).01:27
pratdoes anyone know if there is a way to extract/find the .config kernel config info for stock ubuntu kernels?01:27
tehsubeowuff: i have not, ill try that01:27
tehsucould it be anything else01:27
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pushpopTonren: what does that do.01:27
rambo3prat you mean like one in /boot/01:27
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bbrazilpushpop: should be in /boot01:27
beowufftehsu, I can't remember from when I installed, but you may be able to hit CTL F4 to see a console with error messages.01:27
tehsuok01:28
npodgesdoes anyone here use kiba-dock?01:28
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justin_wweasel: Not there, however I have it in console aptitude :)01:28
wweaseljustin_: alright01:28
tehsuwhat happens is, it hits 57% the cd and the computer busy light is running and 2 or 3 minutes later it shuts off01:28
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justin_And since I spend most of my time in console, it works out :P thnks01:28
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neuroehello01:28
beowufftehsu, did you burn the cd yourself?01:29
bbraziltehsu: bad hdd? Can you do a crtl-alt-f1 ?01:29
pratrambo3, sweet!  thanks  thats exactly what i was looking for01:29
neuroei think i broke something01:29
tehsuyes i burn't it myself01:29
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neuroecan someone help me?01:30
beowufftehsu, I have had to reburn cd's at slower speeds to get older hardware to read them. If you do reburn, try setting the burn speed at 8.01:31
carthik!ask01:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:31
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woodgrainneuroe, what's up?01:31
neuroei tried to move a folder and now my start up themes stoped working, everything looks like it did before but the theme chooser is coming up blank01:31
beowufftehsu, however, since it booted, it's reading the cd fine. Could be that it messed up the burn on one package. Does it always stop in the same spot?01:31
npodgesneuroe what theme?01:32
npodgesfolder**01:32
woodgrainneuroe, which folder?01:32
neuroethe startup themes01:32
neuroeusr/share/gdm/themes01:32
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wweaselbeowuff, tehsu: Have you tried checking the integrity of the CD?01:32
woodgrainneuroe, can't you just put it back?01:32
neuroenothing moved01:32
rambo3did you move /usr/share/themes01:33
neuroei used the command sudo mv -t EarthLights /usr/share/gdm/themes01:33
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npodgesyou should install the theme using the gui01:33
npodgesin system>admin>login window01:33
neuroeyea i noticed that but it's too late01:33
MotorCityMadMan1test01:34
neuroethe folders are all still there i don't understand what happened01:34
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neuroeboth the folder i tried the move and the folders that were in the directory i tried to move them too01:35
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npodgesare you sure thats what broke it then, neuroe?01:35
mackhey01:35
neuroethe theme chooser has no themes to choose01:36
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neuroei'm afraid if i reboot that there will be no theme at the login screen and i won't be able to log in01:36
mackdoes the "network tools" window in ubuntu support using wpa encryption? it asks for a wep code even though my wireless is set up for wpa01:37
sishguptai dont think so mack01:37
sishguptause network manager01:37
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macki see "networking" and "network tools". i'm in "networking" right now01:38
macki dont want to leave my wireless in my house on wep. im setting up a wireless webserver01:38
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d0nk3ysudo apt-get build-dep mythtv : It says it could not be satisfied, is there something wrong with that command?01:39
neuroenpodges, do you know what that command did?01:39
exobuzzhas anyone else come across this bug upgrading dapper to edgy (I wanted to see how edgy was coming along). http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:I8SLIZX_UmEJ:https://launchpad.net/bugs/5712101:39
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djmassivehi, can someone please help me with amaroK?01:39
bruenig!anyone01:40
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:40
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exobuzzok i used anyone. but i included the question. :-)01:40
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bruenigI mean djmassive01:40
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exobuzzaah01:41
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bruenighe used someone01:41
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bruenigbut the idea is the same01:41
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neuroe!ask me01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
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neuroe!stuff01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
djmassiveamaroK help, anyone?01:41
bruenigdjmassive, ask your question01:42
djmassiveok...01:42
neuroequickly01:42
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neuroe!amaroK01:42
djmassiveHow come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...01:42
gunnar!xgl01:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:43
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neuroehelp plz fix my boo boo01:43
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taychouri-awassup everyone01:43
exobuzzgrr. launchpad is down.. .01:43
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eugmanWhat would be the minimum requirments for a desktopless desktop?01:44
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exobuzzif i reboot i will never get back to X.. what with being half way installed with edgy :/01:44
neuroeeugman a pentium01:44
taychouri-aanyone here know how to take my songs from my ipod and put them onto my ubunut01:44
eugmanCool01:44
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djmassiveHow come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...01:44
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Miekeugman: mine runs on a 333MHz AMD K601:44
exobuzzdjmassive: maybe you dont have the required plugin and it cant play the song01:44
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djmassivei just installed a bunch of plugins.... what ones do i need?01:45
exobuzzdjmassive: check which engine you are using and if it has mp3 support (or whatever the song is your playing)01:45
taychouri-aMP301:45
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taychouri-alol01:45
eugmanAlso, I'm curious. Is there any list of equivalent programs like irssi and mutt if I wanted to do that?01:45
exobuzzyou need whatever plugin handles the format you are playing01:45
brunooi01:45
neuroehrm mp3 maybe?01:45
djmassivei just need an mp3 plugin01:45
taychouri-aanyone here know how to sync my ipod to my linux01:45
neuroeyes mp301:45
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itrebalwould there be any serious issues concering installing linux-image-k7-smp with a K8 board?01:46
trojixeugman, search a repository or Google for "CLI *prgram*" or whatever.01:46
cafuegoitrebal: no01:46
hthhi, this is my first try installing ubuntu with soft raid on an array0, i tried to follow the wiki page but didnt work... received kernel error during installation... id like to know how may i do it or have a link to a step by step detailled step to set it up succesfully01:46
eugmantaychouri-a, gtkpod works for me. A search in the forums should have more help.01:46
neuroetaychorui-a if you get the plugin you can play the songs from the ipod threw your cpu01:47
neuroejust plug in the ipod01:47
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itrebalcafuego: alrighty01:47
exobuzzhth. there is a good step by step on the gentoo wiki which i used to help me setup raid01:47
eugmanOh, I thought he meant the other way.01:47
exobuzzok its gentoo, but the information is mostly valid for ubuntu01:47
neuroei always come in here looking for help but end up helping the noober noobs01:47
djmassivei'm using dapper drake, if that helps... what do i need to get so i can get amaroK to play my mp3s?01:47
jake1ok...... i have been trying all day to get Ubuntu installed, but some reason it isn't working right01:47
jake1http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg01:47
bruenig!mp301:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:47
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taychouri-aso theres no way to put them on the computer?01:48
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cafuegotaychouri-a: 'gtkpod' will do it happily.01:48
hthexobuzz ill take it u have the link.. im not a well experienced linux users i have a copy of ubuntu alternate install right now01:48
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neuroeyaychouri-a, yes there is01:48
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taychouri-aoh ok01:48
taychouri-aso01:48
jake1the image of the installation process isn't completely visable01:48
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neuroeif you plug it in you should be able to just copy them01:48
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jake1can someone look at the picture and tell me what they think01:48
taychouri-akk well01:48
bruenigjake1, yeah it looks like the screen resolution is so off that you can't view all of the text01:48
exobuzzhth: i dont have a link handy but google probably knows where it is. first you have to find the gentoo wiki and then search for "raid howto" :)01:48
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taychouri-acuz i am goin back to linux01:48
taychouri-aand i dun wanna lose my 2000 songs01:49
taychouri-alol01:49
jake1bruenig: what can i do about that???01:49
bruenigdon't know01:49
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cafuegotaychouri-a: open gtkpod, right click the song (or a selection of songs) and click 'Export'01:49
taychouri-akk01:49
taychouri-athanks cafuego01:49
taychouri-a:)01:49
jake1there has got to be a way to get this installed01:49
neuroetaychouri-a, do you know how to use synaptic?01:49
bruenignot even sure that is the problem but looking at it makes me think that might be the problem01:49
SitouhTestwweasel: Got security turned off, it doesn't seem to be letting me connect01:49
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waspiushi..i just found out what karamba does and how nice it is...if i use a simple desktop such as fluxbox will i be able to use karamba without using allot of resources as i would if i used it in kde?01:49
mack#1 sign youre getting used to linux: you try to highlight and middle-click to copy/paste...01:49
taychouri-aremind me what that is neuroe, i havent used linux in a hwile01:49
exobuzzoh.. launchpad isnt down. my machine is being borked.. that will teach me to try and test edgy out...01:50
jake1does anyone else know???01:50
neuroesynaptic package manager01:50
mackanyway... http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/ should i trust that on how to make my computer accept wpa?01:50
taychouri-ayeahhh01:50
taychouri-athat think01:50
taychouri-athing01:50
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taychouri-awith01:50
jale2icetaychouri-a, create a vfat partition for the songs and then mount it when you get linux up and running01:50
taychouri-aall the installation01:50
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tehsui forgot who was helping me, i made a new cd.. i burnt it at 4x instead of 44x and testing the install now01:50
taychouri-ajale2ice, im not that god with computers, lol. i wish i would know how to do that01:50
taychouri-agood*01:50
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bruenigtaychouri-a, copy them all to disk01:51
taychouri-ai cant!01:51
taychouri-aits01:51
bruenigget 15 dvds or something01:51
exobuzzhmm or maybe not. can someone else tell me if launchpad.net is working ?01:51
taychouri-ai dun have a dvd drive :)01:51
exobuzznot sure if I have some weird networking problem. i can ping it. but no http01:51
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jale2icetaychouri-a, get a partition manager (partition magic) or even a linux liveCD and create a vfat partition with the free space you got... move all the songs into the partition then load the linux distro of your choice01:51
taychouri-alaunch pad is wokrin01:51
trojixDitto.01:51
exobuzzoh dear..01:51
kdittyhow do you know if you have gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x?01:52
neuroewell use that to install GTKPod01:52
jake1well hopefully someone can help me01:52
exobuzzweird. i can get to google on http but not launchpad!01:52
taychouri-asigh jale01:52
jale2icetaychouri-a, when you do all that and have your linux distro loaded and configured, mount -t vfat /dev/xdax /mnt/share or something of the sort01:52
taychouri-alol01:52
taychouri-aso confusing01:52
bruenigtaychouri-a, get the ubuntu live cd. Boot into and come in here. I can guide you through getting your music on a vfat partition and keeping them safe while the other partition gets formated for ubuntu01:52
hthi saw that gentoo wiki but its complicated for nothing... i might just need to know how to partition my 2 hd... then create dmraid... but i dont know how to make the partitions... thats my problem i know how to make regular ones.. but not for an array0 raid.. pissing me off since it sounds easyt with the alternate cd01:52
taychouri-akk bruenig01:52
taychouri-aone sec01:52
taychouri-acuz01:52
taychouri-ai used shipit01:52
jale2iceget a gentoo liveCD01:52
jale2ice:)01:52
bruenigthat is fine01:52
taychouri-aand i havend tried it01:52
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exobuzzaha. https is broken..01:52
taychouri-aso01:53
exobuzzhumph..01:53
taychouri-alemme get on it01:53
taychouri-aand i come back ok01:53
taychouri-a:)01:53
taychouri-athanks brue01:53
hthjale2ice???01:53
cafuegokditty: You have gtk 2.x01:53
trojixE17 in repository?01:53
zirpuis there an /etc/apt/sources.list tweak that can be used to dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 ?01:53
jale2icehth, i'm a gentoo user :/01:53
Harksawgot a little trouble... I just installed ubuntu on my D945GPM motherboard, and the onboard sound card is acting strangely. The PCM control on the Volume Control does nothing, only the Front control. The sound card works but the volume is almost inaudible on a large stereo. Ideas?01:53
SitouhTestCould someone help me get a wireless card running?01:53
hthim not trying to set it up on gentoo but on ubuntu dapper01:53
kdittyok, thanks01:53
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jale2icehth, i was kidding... glad you caught it minutes later01:54
bruenigzirpu, 6.06.1 is 6.06 with all of the accumunlated updates over the past few months01:54
bruenigso that if you do install now you don't have 190+ updates to install01:54
zirpuah. ok. thanks.01:54
jake1does anyone else have any ideas to why my screen looks like this, and what can i do to fix it01:54
cafuegohth: If you don't already use the software raid in windows, simply  set the controller to standard ide/sata mode, then use 'md' raid.01:54
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hthjale2ice i not feeling like laughing much but feeling to make it work asap\01:54
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jale2icehth, yeah...01:55
bruenig!patience01:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:55
trojixDoes anyone know if E17 is in the repository?01:55
bruenig!attitude > bruenig01:55
d0nk3yI need to run the command "qmake" it says command not found? is there some way to add the command?01:55
jale2icenice find bruenig :)01:55
hthcafuego ubuntu isnt installed yet... i was trying to set it up via alternate install disc01:55
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tehsud0nk3y: run make01:56
bruenigacse e1701:56
hththe problem im having is that i dont know how 2 partition my 2 hd to successfully make a array001:56
d0nk3ytehsu: http://pastebin.ca/14693201:56
hththat might be why it doesnt work01:56
d0nk3ytehsu: I need to allow it to run qmake01:56
bruenigtrojix, what is e1701:57
bruenig?01:57
UrbanCan anyone help me. When I try to install Ubuntu, it goes all the way through but then my screen go blank and I get a message saying "Out of frequency range" Is this problem specific to Ubuntu or should I google it?01:57
trojixbruenig, Enlightenment 17, the window manager.01:57
tehsuive never heard of a qmake01:57
bruenig!info enlightenment01:57
ubotuenlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB01:57
bruenigit is in universe trojix, do you have universe enabled?01:57
tehsu!info xchat01:58
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB01:58
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trojixI'm actually sitting on a LiveCD right now, was just curious.01:58
bruenigoh, well then yes01:58
trojixThanks.01:58
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tehsufinally it passed 57%01:58
tehsuyessssssss!01:58
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jordanaucan i safely resize my / partition?02:00
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hthwell02:00
Sitouhwweasel: Yes, my wireless card works when I turn off WPA security02:00
jale2icejordanau, yes02:00
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beowufftehsu, so, it looks like either a corrupt package on the first burn, or just burned too fast for the other cdrom to read...02:00
tehsuyup02:00
tehsui burnt this one at 4x02:01
tehsuotherone was at max02:01
jordanaujale2ice, just gun g or qparted from a live cd and reduct the size?02:01
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jordanaureduce *02:01
tehsuthanx for your help02:01
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tehsui would've never thought of a bad burn02:01
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jale2icejordanau, qparted works nice...02:01
jordanaujale2ice, and nothing special to do, all of my present data is stored at the beginning of the partition?02:02
makro02:02
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jale2icejordanau, i used parted02:03
jale2iceand it didn't care where the info was02:03
jordanaugreat thanks02:03
beowufftehsu, is this an older computer your installing on?02:03
tehsunope02:03
tehsuP-M 1.84 Gig Ram 60GB HDD02:03
jale2icejordanau, i used tools like resize_reiserfs and fdisk02:03
jale2icejordanau, i think it's the best way and it works02:04
tehsuok its done02:04
tehsubrb02:04
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jordanauthank you very much02:05
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fyyrest0rmanyone here have experience with world of warcraft under wine?02:06
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Harksawwhat does it mean if someone said they fixed a problem like mine by doing this: ""I used the old kext but with the rev2 plist"02:07
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madman-how do i get my programs ( like kmail ) to show in the app menu ?02:09
bruenigmadman, you mean the notification area or tray?02:09
bruenigor do you mean the applications menus that has the internet games and graphics submenus among others02:09
madman-bruenig: the application drop down menu02:10
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w30bruenig, go to the applications menu and pick alacarte menu editor and add it.02:10
pushpopwhere is source.list located?02:10
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taychouri-ak im on linux02:10
MatthewVpushpop, /etc/apt/sources.list02:10
bruenigmadman-, yeah you can add them via alacarte menu editor02:10
madman-bruenig: yes that one02:10
madman-looking02:10
pushpopthanks02:10
taychouri-abruenig: im on linux now. wanna help me out.02:10
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pushpopand how do I get the command "qmake" isntalled?02:11
w30bruenig, Gnome desktop although KDE has a menu editor too.02:11
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bruenigtaychouri-a, go to system>administration>Gnome partition editor02:11
DaveyJi'm installing kde along side gnome.. how do i run kde on another screen?02:11
bruenigw30, I didn't know if he was using kde02:11
bruenighe may be using kmail in gnome02:11
taychouri-abruenig: k yo. i got that up02:11
bruenigif he was using kde, seems like he would be in #kubuntu02:11
bruenigtaychouri-a, how many partitions does it show?02:12
madman-bruenig: very nice , thank you02:12
bruenignp02:12
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taychouri-abruenig: 2, (Unallocated 7.5mb, and something elsee called ntfs 38gb02:12
w30bruenig, yeah gets confusing don't it. kubuntu, gunbuntu and kubuntu. oh well02:12
dffdis there a list of wifi cards that ubuntu supports?02:12
FaithfulI can login with ftp-ssl ok and cwd but I cannot do ls it says "ftp: bind: Address already in use" now I know this is because it is bound to port 21 for security reasons but I don't seem to be able to get it to work02:13
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok,  how big is your music collection as far as mb is concerned02:13
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duanebauuugh02:13
taychouri-aumm, well i think its at02:14
taychouri-a15gb, so 15000mb?02:14
bruenigwow02:14
duanebI keep getting this error: digest veification failed, /usr/protage/kbproto-1.0.202:14
taychouri-alol, i know02:14
duanebreason: filesize issn't what it expected02:14
duanebhow can i fix this?02:14
taychouri-ai love music02:14
taychouri-a:)02:14
foxjwill_how do I make a windows ntfs partition writable? right now it's read-only02:14
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pushpopAny Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?02:14
bruenigok, so right click on the ntfs one and click resize, make it 22 GB, 38-15= 23 -1 just to make sure = 22 GB02:15
Ktron#xorg is dead, damn-- I think its safe to assume that ubuntu cannot be run on my machine02:15
Ktroner, Xorg cannot be run on my machine02:15
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foxjwill_any ideas02:15
foxjwill_?02:15
duanebanyone?02:15
duanebI really need to use emerge02:15
bruenigfoxjwill, there is some experiment ntfs writing on linux02:16
bruenig!ntfs02:16
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:16
w30DaveyJ,  i have done that but its been so long ago. It entails passing the display option of something like -display 0:1 instead of the default 0:0 to X02:16
foxjwill_thanks02:16
bruenigbut I am not sure how reliable it is02:16
DaveyJso technically i can run two different desktops on two different monitors?02:16
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foxjwill_what do you mean by '!fuse"?02:16
profoX`foxjwill_: it's not advised.. but the best thing until now is ntfs-3g I think02:16
foxjwill_ok02:16
bruenig!fuse02:16
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:16
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taychouri-abruenig: It wont let me resize under 28gb02:16
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bruenigtaychouri-a, dang, that means more work02:17
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profoX`foxjwill_: bruenig: that looks a bit out of date02:17
bruenigresize it to 28 gb02:17
taychouri-ak02:17
taychouri-adone02:17
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profoX`foxjwill_: bruenig: there is ntfs-3g that is more reliable/fast, but it's also still alpha/beta02:17
profoX`I would NOT advise writing on NTFS yet02:17
profoX`unless in windows :)02:17
foxjwill_ok02:17
bruenigtaychouri-a, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal02:17
foxjwill_i guess i'll stick to copying the files02:18
taychouri-ak02:18
foxjwill_thanks though02:18
profoX`foxjwill_: you can READ from ntfs fine02:18
profoX`just write support isn't all that good yet02:18
w30DaveyJ, I had two GUI screens going with the ctl-alt-F8 F7 or whatever. I don't know about different monitors02:18
bruenigtaychouri-a, sorry I skipped a few steps02:18
foxjwill_i know02:18
profoX`it should get better in a few months foxjwill_02:18
taychouri-alol02:18
taychouri-ak02:18
foxjwill_profox: i know02:18
DaveyJis it processor intensive?02:18
foxjwill_profox: i hope so02:18
profoX`foxjwill_: :) (blame microsoft!)02:18
bruenigtaychouri-a, go back into gparted. And right click the extra space and hit new02:18
izirkushorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?02:19
taychouri-athe unallocated?02:19
bruenigno the new stuff that you just created out of the ntfs02:19
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bruenigwhich is also unallocated. not the 7.5 mb, the 10 gb02:19
taychouri-awhat new stuff, i have the same things, except ones 10 gb, and ones 27gb02:19
foxjwill_profox: Gates' mother was a hampster and his father smelt of elderberries02:19
bruenigright click on the 10 gb one02:20
taychouri-akk02:20
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taychouri-ai pressed new02:20
bruenigmake it logical and make the file format fat32, I think they call it fat3202:20
bruenigif it doesn't say fat32 or there is a vfat option under filesystem, choose vfat02:20
taychouri-ait wont let me call it logical02:20
profoX`foxjwill_: what? ._.02:20
profoX`lol02:20
wikijeffAny idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.02:20
profoX`taychouri-a: logical / extended / ...?02:21
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok, well, you are going to get rid of that ntfs partition eventually right?02:21
taychouri-ayeah02:21
taychouri-acuz02:21
bruenigok call it primary02:21
taychouri-ak i added i02:21
bruenigit is formatted at fat32?02:21
bruenigor vfat or whatever02:21
taychouri-ayeah02:21
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bruenigok02:21
taychouri-afat3202:21
foxjwill_profox: haven't you seen the Holy Grail?02:22
bruenigwhat is the name of the 10 gb and 27 gb partitions. SHould be something like /dev/something02:22
francaissalut02:22
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taychouri-athe 27gb is /dev/hdc1, and the 10gb is New Partition #102:23
profoX`foxjwill_: no..02:23
francaishi02:23
bruenigit doesn't have another name except new partition one?02:23
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bruenigtaychouri-a, ok yeah hit apply02:23
taychouri-ano02:23
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taychouri-ak its doin it02:23
bruenigit is up at the top of the gui02:23
francaishow are you going02:23
JbirkI need shorewall configureation help02:23
Jbirkany shorewall experts?02:23
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bruenigonce it applies it should give it a name, tell me that when it does02:24
taychouri-ak02:24
taychouri-athey are btoh02:24
annaravejust wanted to say thanks to the folks who helped me earlier today on my partitioning.02:24
SillyZevening, could someone send me a plain jane default smb.conf from with ubuntu instllation or a kubuntu install?02:24
taychouri-a(/dev/hdc102:24
taychouri-abut02:24
francaishi02:24
annaravehi everyone02:24
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taychouri-aone is 38gb, and one is 7 mb, and the 38gb is unknown type02:24
foxjwill_profox: Monty Python and the Holy Grail?02:24
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bruenigtaychouri-a, it didn't create a 28 gb and 10 gb?02:25
taychouri-anope02:25
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profoX`foxjwill_: no i havent seen it.. it's an old movie.. i've seen alot of monty sketches but not that movie02:25
bruenigok tray to partition it again. Keep the ntfs partition a little bigger. It might not like such a drastic resize02:26
bruenigtry*02:26
james_xxxdoes anyone in here use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter? OR a wusb54gs? i have both..02:26
taychouri-ayeah02:26
bruenigdo all the same stuff. make ntfs 30 and new fat32 8 gb02:26
taychouri-ai think i jsut fucked up my frives02:26
taychouri-adrives02:26
taychouri-acuz02:26
taychouri-ait wont let me make a new one02:26
foxjwill_profox: you have to see it02:26
bruenigright click on the ntfs and hit resize02:27
taychouri-aor resize02:27
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taychouri-aits messe dup man02:27
bruenigwell hit reload02:27
annaravenomego was really helpful earlier. thanks.02:27
taychouri-ai did02:27
Don_jrI'm back and having trouble with installing Ubuntu02:27
annaraveDon_jr: what problem are you having?02:27
bruenigall of your data is still there02:27
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bruenigtry closing and reopening it02:27
profoX`foxjwill_: well .. ok .. if i see it in the videostore i'll buy it ;p02:28
Don_jrI clicked on the install button while in live CD mode, window popped up saying 'install' in the header, window is blank other than that and the disk has stopped responding.02:28
taychouri-akk brue02:28
taychouri-alisten to what i did02:28
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taychouri-ai fixed it02:28
taychouri-abut02:28
taychouri-alisten02:28
taychouri-amy ntfs02:28
taychouri-ais now 21gb02:28
bruenig!enter02:28
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:28
Corporal_DirgeHello, anyone have experience with pw protected rar files in Ubuntu?02:28
FearoI have a problem with my Apache. My www is /home/user/dev/www and each time i add a new file, i need to set the CHMOD back. Is there a way to auto set all  chmod to 755?02:29
SillyZcan someone send a default smb.conf from a kubuntu or ubuntu installation, I need one to compare it to the xfce installation02:29
wikijeffAny idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.02:29
bruenigget to the point where you have two partitions, they are both named. One is ntfs and one is fat32. Tell me the name.02:29
annaraveah. well, good luck on it. i've gotta run my son to a school dinner now. good luck. ciao02:29
Don_jrubuntu needs fat32 to install or ntfs?02:29
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bruenigsillyZ where is the smb.conf file02:30
MadpilotDon_jr, neither. Default format is ext302:30
c0nfidencalext3, reiserfs...02:30
bruenigtaychouri-a, are you still there02:30
Don_jrSo if I"m trying on a fat32 system that will cause a problem?02:30
Don_jrmaybe that why it locked up on me?02:30
taychouri-aK listen to what i have,  NTFS - 21.65 gb (/dev/hdc1) FAT32- 16.63gb (/dev/hdc3) fat32- 7.84mb (/dev/hdc2)02:31
FearoCan someone help me? Each time I add a new file in my /home/user/dev/www folder, i need to chmod it. Is there a way to auto-chmod it?02:31
bruenigtaychouri-a, that is good02:31
taychouri-ak, i already hit apply02:31
bruenigtaychouri-a, open up that terminal02:31
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Corporal_DirgeDoes anyone know how to put a pw in for a rar file?02:31
SillyZbruenig, usually in /etc02:31
taychouri-akk its open02:31
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neuroehiya02:32
PMantisIs vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?02:32
bruenigdo the following commands "mkdir hdc1" "mkdir hdc3"02:32
tehsuHow do I get native resolution02:32
izirkushorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?02:32
tehsuI set it fine, but the screen doesnt want to change02:32
MadpilotDon_jr, if you're installing Ubuntu, it will want to reformat a partition to ext3 (at least one partition)02:32
taychouri-ak i entered them02:32
SillyZbruenig, sorry went to go grab a cup of coffee, Im just trying to prove theory here, cuz smb networking is fine under ubuntu and kubuntu, but the smb.conf in xubuntu either dosent exist or is there but blank02:32
neuroesmb3 is sweet02:33
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bruenigsillyz, i don't see a smb.conf under /etc02:33
SillyZtry /etc/smb02:33
bruenigtaychouri-a ok. do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/hdc1"02:33
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abaddonokay I have a question regarding instlalling using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and it still doesn't boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent02:33
bruenigls | grep smb gives nothing02:33
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abaddoncan anyone help me?02:34
bruenigthat while in /etc02:34
Don_jrOkay, why would it freeze up on me? any clue?02:34
bruenigI did locate smb.conf but that is under a samba directory is that what you want02:34
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SillyZbruenig, sorry its /etc/samba/smb.conk02:34
SillyZerr conf02:34
neuroedid yo use a nes emulator?02:34
taychouri-abruenig: When i put ~hdc1, it said it didnt exist, i took out the ~ and it worked, but it didnt say it did anything, the cd drive made a sound and thats it02:34
SillyZthanks bruenig02:35
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bruenigtaychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc102:35
bruenigtaychouri-a, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc102:35
bruenigsorry I was getting ready for the next command02:35
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jjazzHi, I'm trying to umount a dvd, but keep getting told /media/cdrom0: device is busy.  I can't figure out what is keeping it busy.  How can I umount it?  Thanks.02:36
viator_im trying to build  qemu fromt i have source its complaing  that i have gcc 4X and  it wants 3X02:36
bruenigtaychouri-a, but it doesn't matter the other command works too but only because you are in the directory that you are in02:36
bruenigso don't worry about it02:36
viator_whats the proper package name to install it?02:36
taychouri-akk i entered the next thing02:36
Ranbeecan someone tell me the name of the program which show how HDD space in pictures, please?02:36
foxjwill_jjazz: is that your dvd drive?02:36
bruenigtaychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc3 hdc3"02:36
jjazzfoxjwill_: yes02:36
taychouri-ak02:37
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SillyZbruenig, now lets see if theory works02:37
viator_whats the name of the package to install gcc 3x ?02:37
tehsuI have an X700 and the native resolution is a 1680x1050 but it wont set to that any ideas?02:38
bruenigtaychouri-a, ok now go up to the menu again and go to places>home folder, there should be two directories in there called hdc1 and hdc302:38
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taychouri-ayeah02:38
taychouri-atherse 202:38
foxjwill_jjazz: well then. I'm not completely sure. sorry.02:38
bruenigtaychouri-a, the hdc1 has your ntfs, the hdc3 has your fat32, open the ntfs and find your music and copy and paste it into the hdc3 or fat3202:38
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abaddonsorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive02:39
jjazzfoxjwill_: Ok, thanks02:39
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taychouri-aIt says " You don't have permission necessary to view the contents of HDC102:39
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jake1errrrrrrrrr02:39
jake1this is frustrating02:39
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viator_it wont allow that resolution under system>prefrences>screen resolution?02:39
jake1so much documentation but none address my problem02:40
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Don_jrokay, ubuntu sticks when I'm trying to install....any ideas as to what I can do to troublshoot this problem?02:40
bruenigtaychouri-a, that is bothersome, go back into the terminal and do gksudo nautilus02:40
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bruenigthen within that window do the copying and pasting02:40
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taychouri-ait now says02:41
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taychouri-ain the terminal " why connection to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : Non of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."02:42
bruenigyeah but did the window pop up?02:42
Don_jrshould I try and install from safe graphics mode? or normal install?02:42
bruenigthat is a bug. It doesn't mean anything02:43
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taychouri-ayeah it popped out02:43
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taychouri-aits in root02:43
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bruenigok, click file system on the left. then go to home. then  ubuntu, your stuff should be in there02:43
bruenigonce in there go into the ntfs stuff find your music directory. Copy it and then go back and then into your fat32 and paste it02:44
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grout58how can i format a drive from the command line02:44
taychouri-ai go into hdc102:44
taychouri-aand it says 0 items02:44
abaddonsorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive have not found anything usefull on the forums.02:44
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taychouri-aand thers a lock sign on hdc102:45
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bruenigtaychouri-a, when you miraculously resized it before to 21, you never deleted it right. You only resized right?02:45
taychouri-ayupp02:45
taychouri-ai never pressed delete02:45
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bruenigso you go into hdc1, and there is nothing in that directory?02:46
taychouri-anothin man02:46
taychouri-ai was 27gb out of 3802:46
taychouri-ais that why is only let me make 10 gb that time?02:46
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bruenigit should not resize it below how much diskspace was used in it02:46
taychouri-ayeah, well i forced it to, cuz you told me02:47
Don_jrOkay, if I run ubuntu live CD mode, will the CD ever slow down while it's running that way if I don't touch it?02:47
taychouri-alol02:47
bruenignot true02:47
TonrenHey guys, how do I share files between two Ubuntu machines using "NFS"?02:47
bruenigok taychouri-a, go back into the terminal and type "cd hdc1"02:47
bruenigthen type ls02:47
bruenig"ls"02:47
bruenigtell me what the output is.02:48
taychouri-aPermission Denied02:48
bruenigsudo cd hdc102:48
bruenigthen ls02:48
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taychouri-acd command not found02:48
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Don_jrlib/firmware/mrv8k-b.fw error loading for device /class/firmware/00000:02:00.0' with driver mrv8k02:48
bruenigcd command not found?02:48
taychouri-ayea02:49
bruenighow is that possible. Do cd /02:49
taychouri-athat worked02:49
brueniglol02:49
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taychouri-asith02:49
taychouri-asigh02:49
bruenigthe command appears to be found now02:49
taychouri-awhy do i have such bad luck02:49
bruenigok do "cd"02:49
Don_jranyone tell me what that error means?02:49
bruenigthen do ls, tell me the output02:49
taychouri-ai got lots of blue words02:50
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bruenigthose words being02:50
bruenigwas hdc1 and hdc3 amongst them?02:50
TonrenGuys, does the Share Folders GUI actually work??02:50
taychouri-anope02:50
taychouri-ai got02:50
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taychouri-abin cdrom etc initrd lib mnt proc root srv tmp var boot dev home initrd.img media opt rofs sbin sys usr vmlinux02:51
bruenigyou didn't get opt home etc boot usr, etc did you?02:51
taychouri-alinuz02:51
bruenigtaychouri-a, do "cd"02:51
bruenigyou must do cd first to get to the right directory02:51
bruenigthen do ls02:51
taychouri-ak02:51
Don_jrDamn, I cannot get this to install....02:51
andaxTonren, install "nfs-kernel-server" package, then have a look at /etc/exports (this file contains what and how you share) , then use "mount ipaddress:/shared/folder " on the other box to mount the exported folders02:51
bruenig!alternate02:51
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.02:51
taychouri-anow i get02:51
bruenigtry that don02:51
taychouri-adesktop hdc1 hdc302:52
bruenigthat is how it should be02:52
Corporal_DirgeAnyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?02:52
bruenigok do cd hdc102:52
taychouri-apermission denies02:52
Tonrenandax: Should I not bother with the GUI?02:52
Don_jrI'm no expert and wouldn't know the commands to use in a text based installation if I had it....lol02:52
mistraalanyone know how to change the default home directory for suexec on Apache2?02:52
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andaxTonren, sorry I can't help you with the gui02:52
Tonrenandax: It's OK< I prefer doing things CLI anyway02:53
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taychouri-ait lets me go to hdc3 but not hdc102:53
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bruenigtaychouri-a, see if this works. "chown -R ubuntu hdc1"02:54
bruenigadd sudo in front of that02:54
bruenigsudo chown -R ubuntu hdc102:54
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taychouri-aChaangiing ownership of 'HDC1'02:54
bruenigafter that do cd hdc102:54
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Don_jrokay, totally wiped and formatted HD I'm trying to install on from teh ubuntu live CD download.  Should I wait till it is completely done loading the live CD session efore I run the install?02:55
taychouri-astill permistion denied02:55
bruenigdon_jr, yeah, double click the desktop icon once it does02:55
falkonI just read through the FAQ pages, and I didn't see the answer I need.  Can you use the unofficial debian repositories [www.debian-multimedia.org]  with ubuntu?02:55
taychouri-aoh02:55
taychouri-aafter the change02:55
taychouri-aion owner ship02:55
taychouri-ait says02:55
argumentanyone know how i can get 4front oss to work with esd?02:55
taychouri-aread only02:55
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bruenigbut you can go in it?02:56
taychouri-ano02:56
taychouri-ait denies permsion02:56
bruenigone last shot here "sudo chmod 77 -R hdc1"02:56
bruenigsudo chmod 777 -R hdc102:56
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Tonrenandax: How could I tell hosts.allow to only allow a specific user on a specific hostname on the local network?02:56
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taychouri-achanging permissions of hdc1: read only file system02:57
riddleboxdo I need python-pythoncard?02:57
friolocoanyone know of a tutorial for dvd->xvid in ubuntu?02:57
bruenigcan you cd into it now02:57
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taychouri-annope02:57
Don_jrOkay, how will I know when the live CD is done with it's setup?  Will the disk quiet down a bit?02:57
taychouri-amy files are gone arent they02:57
taychouri-asigh02:57
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bruenigyou can still do it. But you can only move over the files after install. Which might actually be easier02:58
taychouri-aisnt there a way02:58
taychouri-ato take it off my ipod02:58
bruenigtaychouri-a yeah02:58
bruenigdo you have them on your ipod02:58
janbananDoes anyone know if there is a guide on how to make a program "bar" that look like the one on the bottom of this picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26448&file1=26448-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=nuoveXT02:58
taychouri-ayes02:58
taychouri-alol02:58
bruenigwtf02:58
duanebeeeugh02:58
viator_ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output02:59
viator_To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check02:59
viator_Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card.02:59
Don_jrif Ubuntu will not load, is there another decent version of *nix system I can try out?02:59
duanebemerge needs a progress bar or something02:59
viator_whoops02:59
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viator_i know pastebin02:59
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Corporal_DirgeAnyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?02:59
taychouri-aCorporal_Dirge:  Why are files passworded?02:59
viator_anyone know what sdl package to install to get rid of that error?02:59
bruenigok, restart your computer. When it boots up double click the install button, Wipe the whole drive and install. If you need help moving the music off the ipod afterwards. Come in here I guarantee you somebody can help you there as popular as that stuff is03:00
TonrenHey, what channel would I head to if I wanted to ask some general questions about networking, network permissions, etc. on GNU servers?03:00
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taychouri-akk03:00
taychouri-aman thanks03:00
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taychouri-aso i gotta delete the apritions03:00
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taychouri-aand shti03:00
taychouri-akk03:00
Corporal_Dirgetaychouri-a, I archived it, but I can't remember the pw.. But I'm more interested in how to use Linux to open it03:00
mneptokjanbanan: use E's Engage app, or adesklets or gdesklets03:00
bruenigtaychouri-a, it will do it in the install03:00
bruenigyou can delete them if you want with gparted but it doesn't really matter because it will do it in the install03:01
andaxCorporal_Dirge, go to www.rarsoft.com , download the linux console version, tar -xzvf rar-xxx.tgz, make install, then you'll have the 'unrar' command. When extracting pw protected files (unrar x whatever.rar) it will ask for the password.03:01
taychouri-aCorporal_Dirge: Oh ok! :) I thought you were trying to open something that wasn't yours  :P03:01
janbananmneptok: thanks mate03:01
viator_!kqemu03:01
ubotukqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm8603:01
taychouri-awell brb! Ic ant wait for this!03:01
slid3rany one know the quick and dirty wayo to handle the totem error :: No URI handler implemented for "mms".03:01
TonrenIs there a way to give NFS permissions ONLY to a specific COMPUTER - not IP address?03:01
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Corporal_Dirgeandax, ok, thanks. I have the rar plugin for Archive manager, but the pw field was always grey and didn't allow pw entry,.03:01
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fyyrest0rmhow can i use adept to browse categories (games, internet, etc)?03:02
andaxCorporal_Dirge, i guess you'll have to use the console version :(03:02
fyyrest0rmor is it even possible?03:02
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Corporal_Dirgeadax, so just unrar <pw> file?03:02
tapio_How come ubuntu doesn't have software mixing by default?03:02
andaxCorporal_Dirge, unrar x something.rar , and it will ask for the password03:02
Corporal_Dirgeadax, What's the x for?03:03
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andaxCorporal_Dirge, eXtract :)03:03
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plumaIs there a way to resize a mounted partition?03:03
Corporal_Dirgeadax, it's not -x? I'll try it now.03:03
w30janbanan, the bar is standard gnome configured in the panel prefs menu. the icons will have to ge gotten from gmom-look,org or wherever....03:03
jake1these documentations are useless.....03:03
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skarfacehow do I override icons that were changed by a theme, specifically those for applciations on the gnome panel?03:04
jake1anyone have any idea why only part of my screen works when i am trying to install Ubuntu.... this makes it impossible to install ubuntu since i can't see what i am doing...... any help would be appreciated03:04
andaxCorporal_Dirge, type it exactly like this: "unrar x something,rar" then give the correct password, and it will unrar the archive with full paths stored03:04
jake1http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg03:04
w30janbanan, using options like hide handles, center color choices etc. You can play all day :=)03:04
jake1that is a photo of what i am talking about03:04
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tehsuWhat is wrong if the resolution wont set correctly?03:05
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janbananw30: Do you know if there are any tips & tricks page?03:05
falkonscrew it, debian time03:05
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w30no, but I got a bar configured like that by playing half a day and using icon sets downloaded from gnome-look.org. I think the icons were called believe it or not osx03:07
plumaAnyone?03:07
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ISOLATEDViRuSok, when my screensaver turns on, or I try to change which screensaver I want to use, my system freezes up on me and I have to force a shutdown and reboot.03:08
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TLE_02I'm looking for a command to cut a piece out of an audiofile with, any suggestions ?03:08
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andaxjake1, i am not sure but as no one else is answering... try passing a "vga=771" parameter to the kernel while booting the installer, but that's just a guess. (that's how I installed it on my laptop)03:08
taychouri-1Can someone help me with partitions?03:08
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jake1how would i do that andax?03:09
dasteve2Does anyone have experience setting up widescreen displays to display native resolution in X?03:09
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bitblithi all; i'm trying to use gconf-editor, but when i make changes they dont persist. specifiaclly, i am trying to add the 'water' plugin to compiz :)03:10
w30janbanan, I recomend that you create a new user account and play with it in case you want to go back to something standard and can't get there. Ha! been there,etc.03:10
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taychouri-1How can i make 2 partitions come together03:10
dasteve2delete one and extend the other03:10
VOYAGERwithout loosing data ?03:11
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wweaselI am experiencing a very ood problem right now. I just plugged in my iRiver, but it seems that Gnome's panels and such have crashed. Rhythmbox launched and stopped working. Everything seemed dead, but I launched a terminal using a keyboard shortcut and launched x-chat. help?03:11
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taychouri-1no i wanna install ubuntu03:11
taychouri-1but03:11
taychouri-1one sec03:11
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w30taychouri-1, have you got stuff on them that you want to keep?03:11
mike_hi hi03:11
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taychouri-1i cant get it off03:11
taychouri-1cuz i want my msuic03:11
taychouri-1but03:11
janbananw30: Ok. thanks. I've done it once on breezy but can't remember how I did it. there was a guide on the forum but I cant find it03:12
taychouri-1i am gunna take my msuic off my ipod?03:12
taychouri-1isnt that better?03:12
viator_!sdl03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
taychouri-1I just want 1 partition03:12
andaxjake1, i can't remember exactly but when the install CD boots up, and the first screen appears (when you choose to install , safe graphic mode etc) try pressing keys from F1 to F8 , and additional install options will be displayed.03:13
dasteve2as far as i know there is no way of joining partitions that doesnt lose data, you should back up the data of one partition, delete it, and extend the other, using a bootable cd with a partition manager03:13
taychouri-1how can i add the un allocated tot he ntfs03:13
jake1oh ok03:13
jake1i will try that03:13
dasteve2im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas?03:13
jake1thanx03:13
taychouri-1there i got it03:14
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mike_can anyone who is really good with ubuntu look at this for me please ???03:14
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699403:14
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Dravas!nvidia03:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:14
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Dravas<3 ubotu03:14
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cdubyacan you change the boot splash screen to something else other than the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu verbose?03:15
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dasteve2the drivers are installed correctly03:15
w30taychouri-1, if you want to keep files that are on both partitions then you will want to back up the files and copy them or at least one set of the files on the partition that you delete.03:15
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bbrazilcdubya: yes, check the usplash docs03:15
jake1i was just kinda scoping out the possibility of installing Fedora Core on my laptop, but i'm not sure whether to check x86_64 or if i should select i38603:15
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jake1it's an AMD Turion 64-bit ML 3203:16
knoppix_keep it real03:16
cdubyabbrazil, not usplash03:16
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tehsuIf I install ati driver using the run file, what else do i need to do besides running the installer03:16
Corporal_Dirgeadax, ok, I foud out why it was passwording me.. file is partially corrupt.. CLI has a repair mode that got most of it back =)03:17
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NewtoUbuntuHey does any1 know if it is possible to get a wireless keyboard that is specifically designed for Windows xp to work on Linux even though it is not on the keyboards list?03:17
jake1i'm gonna try to install this one more time03:17
jake1see what happens03:17
jake1bbiab03:17
Corporal_DirgeNewtoUbuntu, Usually it'll work with the exception of the extra keys.03:17
SoCalI don't like wireless....batteries die too fast for me03:17
SoCallol03:18
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NewtoUbuntuok thanks ill give it a try.. so i just plug it in correct?03:18
w30jake1, I use x86_64 on a desktop and it is faster with x86_64 but a few things llike shockwave flash and wmv playing is missing on the 64bit distro because of foot draging from people like Swhockwave Microsoft 64 bit and RealPlay1003:18
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Corporal_DirgeNewtoUbuntu, Yup,.03:18
VOYAGERmike_, if you log on as sudo you should be able to change to infastructure03:18
ielliottHas there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?03:18
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dasteve2im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas? ive been googling for a long time, no luck yet03:18
NewtoUbuntukk well ill try thank u much corporal_dirge03:19
bitbliti'm following instructions for using gconf-editor, but it does not save changes that I make... any ideas?03:19
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james_xxx?03:19
Don_jrOkay, live CD is running and starting to set up03:19
mike_VOYAGER: ehm.... what would I type at command line?03:19
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SoCalI only configured mine for 1024x76803:19
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VOYAGERdasteve2,  try reducing the color to 24 and try to get your rez then03:19
Don_jrand the computer just shut it's self off.......03:19
Don_jrwhat the hell?03:19
SoCalhmm03:20
SoCaldunno03:20
NemesisUKDon_jr, is the computer having temp. probs?03:20
Don_jrgot to "loading hardware" and poof, went off03:20
Don_jrdo'nt think so, not sure03:20
VOYAGERmike_, i just log in as sudo and use the gui setup sorry no cli here03:20
SoCalI'm using xchat in a liveCD version of Knoppix....pretty nice, but I really like Ubuntu....very easy setup03:20
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MadpilotDon_jr, is this a CD you burned yourself, or a ShipIt one?03:20
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Don_jrISO I burnt03:20
NemesisUKcheck the disk03:21
Don_jrokay03:21
MadpilotDon_jr, did you run md5sum on the ISO before you burned it?03:21
andaxkyja, who cares? turn that script off please.. thank you03:21
SoCalDon_jr, what speed did you burn the disk at?03:21
FearMothis there any program that I can use to cut clips out of a dvd or quicktime video and save them as mpeg, avi or .mov ?03:21
Don_jrno, don't know what that is and I burnt it in windows03:21
Don_jr12X speed03:21
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SoCalthat should be ok03:21
plumaHah. Catch 22. I can't copy my MP3 collection over to my Linux box because I don't have enough free space and I can't simply add another harddisk because I would need to buy a new controller, for which I currently lack the money. In order to earn money, I would need to get some coding done, for which I need more RAM, which I can't buy because I don't have enough money.03:21
justin_Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?03:21
VOYAGERDon_jr,  try burning at 8x03:22
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SoCalya...maybe what someone else said...check the checksum03:22
plumaWell, actually only the last bit qualifies, but I can't code without music anyway.03:22
SoCalmaybe corrupt file03:22
VOYAGERbut yes check md503:22
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w30Don_jr, google for md5sum for windows03:22
Don_jrokay, how do I check the checksum from windows?03:22
Don_jrokay03:22
Don_jrmd5sum03:22
VOYAGERmd5summer03:22
Don_jrwhole word?03:23
rummiksomething like that03:23
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Don_jrmd5summer03:23
w30Don_jr, I bellieve it is md5sum.exe?03:23
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SoCalhas anyone watched the hak.5 videos?03:23
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rummiki bet that hurt them more than it did us :P03:23
SoCallots of stuff03:23
bimberi!netsplit03:24
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:24
ielliottHas there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?03:24
EpPi have 2 linux computers one is a laptop that gets wireless and the other is a desktop that i want to get internet from the laptop... how do i do this?03:24
ielliotti ran the desktop install, and when it loads the graphic is fine, and the command line is fine, but when i get to the login screen its all screwy03:24
ielliottand i only set it for 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480 nothing fancy03:24
VOYAGERhttp://www.md5summer.org/03:24
Don_jrI've found a site that has it03:24
w30Don_jr, but Bill don't furnish it. You will have get download the execute binary and install it to run it.03:24
rummikty ubotu03:24
Don_jrI run that file and direct the program to the .ISO file?03:24
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NemesisUKDon_jr, yes03:24
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Don_jrok03:25
VOYAGERdload the md5 hash from the dload site03:25
plumaAlso, what's with the 700-odd MB RAM Ubuntu seems to be using only to power Gnome, XChat, Firefox, Kopete, Thunderbird and a few services? Is Firefox collecting dead weight again or what?03:25
Don_jrthe install made it past the loading hardware this time....03:25
w30Don_jr, yeah, md5sum xxx.iso03:25
EpPhow do i do internet sharing in ubuntu03:25
andaxEpP, apt-get install ipmasq on the laptop, and "route add default gw laptop" on the desktop (check the ipmasq man page for detailed info)03:25
justin_Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?03:25
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Don_jrokay downloading now03:25
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Don_jrthen, if no errors, try burning at a slower speed?03:26
VOYAGERDon_jr,  kool03:26
VOYAGERyes03:26
SoCali would try a slower speed03:26
w30Don_jr, yeah Whatsisname VOYAGER says and compare numbers03:26
Don_jrit's loading at the moment on the laptop, hasn't locked up again yet03:26
tnzrI wonder if the polite thing to do is always the right thing to do.  When I met the family from Japan, they all bowed.  I pretended like I was going to bow, but then I just kept going and flipped over on my back.  I did this five times.  I think they got the point.03:26
SoCal8x or 4x03:26
Don_jrcompare numbers to what?03:26
dalilatried 2 ps/2 mice and they dont work , i just bought a brand new hp/ps2 model M871 and it wont work  how can i reconfigure just the mouse to get it to work03:26
Whatsisnamewhat?03:26
dalilacat /proc/interupts does not show it03:27
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w30Don_jr, there is a text file at the sight of your iso that has the md5sum numbers in it that the md5sum.exe output generates03:27
MrParanoiawhy is /etc/rc.local disabled by default?03:28
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andaxdalila, ps2 mice may need a reboot to become working (don't know why)03:28
dalilai did reboot03:28
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BOBSONATORSweet, first time in irc,03:28
ironyCurtainHi all.  I cannot for the life of me get my wireless to work on my laptop.  It is Intel Pro 2200 Wireless (Centrino), and it uses the ipw2200 driver.  It is detected on eth1, and it can see wireless networks in my area, but when I try to connect to my wireless network through Network Settings it says it is disconnected.  I installed wifi-radar, and I made more progress with it.  It actually sends packets but is repeatedly connecting a03:28
plumaIs 256 MB RAM enough for WinXP to run only WiMP and BitTorrent or will I regret that?03:28
w30Don_jr, an incorrectly downloaded file will generate different md5sums03:28
tnzrironyCurtain: is wpa_supplicant installed?03:29
plumaHm... I'll better leave it 512 MB. Just for good measure.03:29
BOBSONATORIrony curtain, click the icon, then hit the drop down box, and then hit the thing03:29
BOBSONATORhit your network03:29
daliladmesg does now show it either03:29
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hou5tonok ... i have video playing on CNN and YouTube ... but it won't play at all on MSNBC and only the sound plays on FoxNews.03:29
ironyCurtaintnzr: no, i use WEP03:30
BOBSONATORbecause its a wmv03:30
Don_jrso if I run it twice it will be different each time if there's errors?03:30
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tnzrironyCurtain: iwconfig eth1 essid <your essid> channel <your channel>03:30
hou5tonBOBSONATOR:  is it also wmv on Fox?03:30
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tnzrironyCurtain: then ifup eth103:30
BOBSONATORi think so03:30
mike_someone told me to login as sudo03:30
mike_how do I do this????03:30
BOBSONATORsu03:30
Jbirkwhat is Ubuntu max color depth?03:30
profoXmike_: you don't03:30
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profoXmike_: you type: sudo command03:30
mike_profoX: then why were tehy telling me this!?03:30
evan_how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu03:30
mike_profoX: they SPECIFICALLY SAID login as sudo03:31
profoXmike_: sudo means: execute this command as root03:31
mike_makes no sense03:31
BOBSONATORsu, then password, then you are root.03:31
profoXmike_: they said wrong.03:31
w30Don_jr, like files will generate like md5sums when you run md5sum and read the output03:31
profoXmike_: you can only login as sudo if you have a user named sudo ;)03:31
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> turn off the wep when using public networks (hotspots)03:31
tnzrmike_: sudo is a command03:31
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mike_profoX: it means execute as another user03:31
tnzrnot a user03:31
andaxhou5ton, it's not a problem to play wmv files, try using mplayer-plugin ( http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ )03:31
SoCalsudo means superuser do03:31
mike_tnzr: you're five minutes too late, and I already know, kthnx03:31
w30Don_jr, think of the md5sum as the total and correct number of bites in the file03:31
tnzrit means execute as root (superuser = su = "sudo")03:31
SoCalmeans do this command using su03:31
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profoXmike_: what SoCal says03:32
tnzrmike_: listen to yourself, kthx03:32
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tnzrand dont say "kthx" in a Linux channel and expect serious help03:32
hou5tonandax:  ya .. that's what I have .. the extension installed for firefox, etc. ... and CNN uses it just fine???03:32
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: this is my home network though, technically my roommate's, i can't turn off encryption03:32
tnzrI guess you could in #ubuntu.. nevermind.03:32
mike_right, let's stop useless chat and see if anyone can fix my wireless :p03:32
Don_jrokay w30 where I'm confused is, if I run the md5 on the .ISO file, I get a number, what do I compare that number to to see if there is an error?03:32
andaxhou5ton, never tried, i'll check it03:32
hou5tonandax:  How do I get the other websites to use it03:32
evan_how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu?03:32
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mike_evan_: buy a switch.... =)03:32
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felipe___rubyonrails03:32
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MrParanoiaironyCurtain> you can't turn off the WEP on your laptop or on the router?03:33
evan_mike_, have one...03:33
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mike_evan_: buy a router....  shrug.03:33
w30Don_jr, the other supposedly matching number will be posted on the internet at the same place that offered the iso file for downloading03:33
evan_mike_, have 103:33
PhoulDoes anyone here know anything about darkbot (i know its not the right room just curious)03:33
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: The WEP isn't the issue, I think, because it does the same thing when connecting to an unsecured network.03:33
mark__In the repository their is linux-686 and linux-686-smp, when either one is set to be installed it marks the same 686 kernel's? so does it not matter which I select for a Pentium4 to get hyperthreading?03:33
Don_jrokay, thank you03:33
Don_jrI"ll go look and see if I can find that info now so I know what I"m looking for03:33
tnzrironyCurtain: did you try the iwconfig/ifup eth1 stuff?03:34
evan_mike_, i have a laptop that get wireless that i want to share with the pc in my room so i dont have to run a wire down the hall03:34
profoXevan_: internet sharing? with a router that shouldn't be a problem - or do I miss something03:34
viator_plug other computers into the router lol03:34
dalilawhen i burn with gnomebaker i get this error Using IMAGESPRODUCTSEARRINGSF000.JPEG;1 for  /home/dalila/Desktop/olddocs/Bracelets With A Story/item.asp_files/imagesproductsearringsfruitwhite.jpeg (imagesproductsearringsfruitblue.jpeg)03:34
dalilaIncorrectly encoded string (in cursos UNE.xls) encountered.03:34
dalilaPossibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting03:34
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tnzrevan: your laptop running ubuntu?03:34
andaxhou5ton, i checked www.cnn.com , the videos are playing fine for me using mplayer-plugin + firefox03:34
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> if you have WEP turned on when using a network that doesn't use WEP, it won't connect03:34
evan_tnzr, yes both comps03:34
w30mark__, smp stands for multiple processors03:34
profoXevan_: is the computer connected to the router?03:35
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hou5tonandax:  I know .... it's FoxNEws that only the sound works, and on MSNBC, nothing does03:35
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> otherwise, you're using the wrong WEP key03:35
profoXor how do you want to share the internet?03:35
tnzrevan_: its kind of a long story but I think youd use iptables.. wireless card woul dbe the external and your lan card would be the internal, your laptop would be the router03:35
viator_are you saying you want the linux box to act as a gateway /router03:35
andaxhou5ton, oh okay checking them03:35
viator_to share its connection?03:35
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tnzryoud need to read up on using iptables and linux for routing purposes03:35
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evan_profoX, im on the laptop right now... i just want to share this connection with the desktop in my room03:35
ironyCurtainMrParanoia: i turn it off when connecting to an unsecured network03:36
SoCaldoes your desktop have a wireless card too?03:36
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> if you have a firewall installed, consider turning it off for testing03:36
profoXevan_: without having to put a cable in the router u mean?03:36
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699403:36
tnzryour desktop wouldnt need a wireless card, you could plug it directly into your laptops ethernet jack03:36
tnzrerr03:36
tnzrinto a hub into your laptops ethernet jack03:36
dalilabrb03:36
mark__w30, I know so which should I select to have hyperthreading does that count as multiple cpu's, just I read in the ubuntu forums about this saying it should be linux-686-smp but it seems to point to the same 686 kernels.03:36
klhrevolutionist Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?03:36
evan_so like MODEM -> router ---wireless--> Laptop ---WIRE--> desktop03:36
tnzrevan_: you can prolly do it that way but ive never done it without a hub between the laptop -> desktop03:37
fangoriousi'm messing around with having multiple ServerLayout sections in xorg.conf, and have two of the intended three working. I assume I have to pick which layout to use before gdm starts, is there a way to do that with a grub kernel option?03:37
mike_^  wireless config doesn't seem to work03:37
mark__so surely it doesn't make a difference?03:37
evan_tnzr, its a crossover cablet hat goes to my desktop03:37
andaxhou5ton, confirmed, foxnews only plays sound, no picture :(03:37
tnzrevan_: that would work03:37
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hou5tonandax:  so .... what shall we do now?  :-)03:38
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tnzrevan its  pretty easy to setup, the tough part is just setting up iptables nad actually understanding what you are doing.. I couldnt even really begin to tell you here, though Ive used a linux box as a router for quite some time (a gentoo box, no wireless)03:38
MrParanoiathis ubuntu takes some getting use to03:38
w30mark__, what's hyperthreading? I thought that was a Microsoft thing?03:38
evan_profoX, im connected wirelessly with my laptop. now i just want to plug a crossover from my latop to my desktop so i dont have to run a wire to my router...03:38
evan_tnzr, im a n00b, how would i do it?03:38
MrParanoiaw30> hyperthreading is a cpu feature03:38
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mike_Is shockwave doable on ubuntu ?03:38
tnzrevan_: we could try something :) im not a network guru but maybe you could plug it into your laptop and set a route on your laptop or something03:39
bimberi!shockwave03:39
ubotushockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave03:39
andaxhou5ton, i have no idea, foxnews seems to be using flash video which i have no clue about, i could have helped with the mplayer plugin only03:39
VOYAGERit should show up as 2 processors in top03:39
evan_tnzr, how would i go about doing that?03:39
VOYAGERtype top at command line03:39
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ubuntu_the dapper live/install-cd can't do X on my computer (it gets confused by the 4 video cards, i think).  can i still do the old text-mode install?03:39
mike_bimberi: how about you tell me something searching google *didn't*? :-)03:39
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w30mike_, hyper transport is amd's architecture03:39
tehsu!info w32codecs03:39
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in dapper03:39
profoXubuntu_: use alternate install cd03:39
mike_w30: wrong person... :)03:40
tehsu!info w32codec03:40
ubotuPackage w32codec does not exist in dapper03:40
Don_jrOkay, live CD mode is running properly thus far.  disk is done chattering at me and mouse still moves03:40
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tehsuwhat do I use for decoding mp3 and wma03:40
Don_jris there anything I should do before clicking the install button?03:40
w30mike_, sorry03:40
ubuntu_ profoX blarg, out of cdr's, the binary for the old install is no where on the livecd?03:40
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mark__ok it does show two CPU's in GNOME's System Monitor so I guess it is working just don't know why their is a linux-686 and linux-686-smp that both install the same kernels03:40
andaxtehsu, www.mplayerhq.hu or apt-get install mplayer03:40
profoXubuntu_: not that i know - although that would have made it more user friendly..03:40
ubuntu_profoX: ok, well, thank you for the help, guess i better go dig up some more cds03:41
tehsu!info mplayer03:41
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB03:41
bimberimike_: lol, well i know that it really doesn't work very well.  It uses wine and my kids, who are discerning lego.com shockwave game players, have to use windows :|03:41
tehsu:o03:41
profoXmark__: dummy package probably03:41
tehsuit says couldnt find mplayer03:41
mark__profoX, ah ok03:41
VOYAGERmark__, the non smp will install it oh on 1 processor but you should have the smp version if more than 1 processor03:41
mike_bimberi: hm... k, thx.  I'm setting up ubuntu for an elderly fellow (he is Mike, I am Quintin) and wanted shockwave....03:41
klhrevolutionistOkay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?03:41
profoXmark__: u can ignore it could be a transitional package to avoid confusion03:42
tnzrevan_: plug the desktop into your laptop, youll have to specify an internal address on your laptops nic (not wireless).. 192.168.0.1 or something, then set an ip on your PC, set its gateway to your laptops nic (192.168.0.1), then on your laptop, you could forward info coming in on 192.168.0.1 to the wireless card, using hte route command I believe.  If route is incapable of something like that, youd probably definitely have to use iptables03:42
mike_bimberi: got java and flash at least.  so yahoo games works03:42
andaxtehsu, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repositories, then apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer03:42
evan_tnzr, i dont know howl.03:42
tehsuk03:42
profoXVOYAGER: i actually think 686 is smp by default now03:42
mike_How do I get better multimedia support?  eg. divx xvid, wma wmv etc ?03:42
VOYAGERprofoX,  tnx03:42
profoXVOYAGER: so -smp is just transitional package in 686 and k703:42
VOYAGERi had to use the smp on beta testing03:43
MrParanoiaironyCurtain> BTW, i'm using the ipw2200 on my dell600m with no problems03:43
VOYAGERon my dual xeons03:43
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VOYAGERbut not on the p4 with hyperthreading03:43
UncleDDoes anyone know how to make dircolors work properly?03:43
profoXVOYAGER: well i could be wrong..03:43
UncleDI can't seem to get my directory color to change from blue to green03:43
profoXthought i heard it somewhere03:43
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w30mark__, crazy eh? I don't know if the disro needs tweaking for multi-processors either.03:44
UncleDI want to do ls --color and see my directorys as GREEN. Anyone?03:44
VOYAGERprofoX,  could be i gave up after the tests03:44
mark__w30, yep a little confusing03:44
Don_jrokay, the live CD OS is running fine right now.  Is there anything I should do before clicking the install?03:44
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ChuIf I wanted to use the 686 linux kernel instead of the 386, should I just install through synaptic, or do I need to do something with my current kernel as well?03:44
mike_UncleD: directories are supposed to be blue.  are you crazy?!03:44
tehsuandax: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidat03:44
mike_Don_jr: make backups03:44
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Don_jrbackups of what? it's a whiped HD03:44
mark__just I read on the Ubuntu forums it was essential to have the linux-686-smp one marked with the Pentium403:44
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profoXChu: installing linux-686 will pull the  necessary dependancies afaik :)03:45
mike_Don_jr: just run the installer and accept defaults then.03:45
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ChuprofoX: It didn't say it needed any...03:45
UncleDmike_: I have a black background and it's hard for my eyes.03:45
tehsuandax: wont install mplayer03:45
tehsu!info mplayer03:45
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB03:45
tehsuhm03:45
andaxtehsu, check http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html03:45
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tehsuok03:46
profoXChu: oh? could be..03:46
tnzrevan: yeah its a little tricky.. ive never done that so I couldnt really tell you how teh route command would work.. your PC's ip would be something like 192.168.0.100, your laptoips nic would be your PC's gateway (192.168.0.1) and your wireless nic would be your non-wireless laptop nic's gateway, so to speak03:46
Don_jrubotu been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
profoXChu: yoou can always go back to old kernel if it doesnt work03:46
Don_jrlol03:46
tehsumultiverse03:46
lupineroute: route add default gw <router IP>03:46
Don_jrit's a bot...okay I"m an idiot03:46
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks03:46
lupine(as sudo)03:46
UncleDmike_: Help me change my colors!03:46
ChuI'm asking if I need to do anything with my current kernel. I'm not sure how it would like multiple kernels...03:46
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profoXDon_jr: its a bot03:47
wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!03:47
malvanyone know of a good router brand?03:47
Don_jrI clicked install, disk is goin nutz, but noting on the screen yet....03:47
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malvor model, rather?03:47
profoXDon_jr: lol03:47
mike_UncleD: if you can fix my wireless problem, I will help you change your colors.  otherwise, no deal!!03:47
Don_jryeah, I"m a dope...heh03:47
tehsumalv: linksys03:47
ChuBut it doesn't say it needs to remove anything, so I'm a bit confused. :p03:47
malvtehsu: which model?03:47
Don_jrThis is like my 3rd time in IRC...bear with me here03:47
mike_p://pastebin.ca/146994  wireless issues, please to be looking :)03:47
profoXDon_jr: np :) ur not the first one03:47
louis__hello03:47
louis__i am a newbie03:47
louis__does any1 chat with me03:47
kitsuneofdoomlouis__: first thing, don't introduce yourself. Just write down your problem03:48
Don_jrAny reason why I don't have anything on my desktop after clickin the install button?  Disk is going nutz like it's doing something, but nothing to report what's being done..03:48
andaxlouis__, just ask your question and someone will help you sooner or later03:48
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mike_UncleD: I'm waiting.........03:48
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mike_Don_jr: sit and wait patiently.03:48
Don_jrok03:48
UncleDmike_: Whats your wireless problem03:48
louis__ok,thank you very much,i see03:48
mike_UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times reless issues, please to be looking :)03:48
mike_09:42 < profoX> Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one03:48
mike_09:42 < louis__> hello03:48
mike_09:42 < louis__> i am a newbie03:48
louis__:)03:49
wikijeffAnyone?????03:49
mike_UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times , http://pastebin.ca/14699403:49
Don_jrI was told the netgear wg511 wireless card for a laptop is compatible with ubuntu, can anyone here confirm or deny this?03:49
profoXlouis__: welcome.. :)03:49
VitaminGanyone here having problems with the azureus version in the repos?03:49
mike_Don_jr: STFW03:49
tnzrmike: google for Automatix .. it can isntall all the video stuff you need03:49
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Don_jreh?03:49
profoXVitaminG: i use ktorrent because of the java03:49
andaxmike_, www.getautomatix.com03:49
mike_Don_jr: search the FINE web03:49
HAL9000I use frostwire03:50
HAL9000Limewire03:50
VitaminGprofoX: I have Gnome, and I don't really want to install KDE libs03:50
Don_jrit doesn't always produce the results you'd like to get...03:50
Don_jrbut I'll look again03:50
HAL9000and ktorrent03:50
Madpilotmike_, 1. do NOT use "STFW" here. 2. Don't recommend Automatix, it breaks things...03:50
mike_tnzr: mmmmmm ty03:50
VitaminGHAL9000: I'm looking for a bittorrent solution, thogh03:50
tnzrnp03:50
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profoXVitaminG: well.. me too.. atleast kde libs + ktorrent require less memory/cpu than java + azureus :)03:50
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HAL9000what is ur os03:50
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mike_Madpilot: I didn't.  and I don't see any reason to ban acronyms, seriously.03:51
VitaminGHAL9000: Ubuntu Dapper03:51
sethkVitaminG, the libraries aren't that large, it seems foolish not to run something just because it uses kde libraries03:51
BOBSONATORDoes anyone here use kismet/AIRCRACK>03:51
BOBSONATOR?03:51
profoXVitaminG: alot of people use torrent in wine - works perfectly - uses low ram - very fast - verrry advanced03:51
mike_andax:  madpilot say not to use automatix !03:51
HAL9000I use PCLOS03:51
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BOBSONATORPCLOS?03:51
louis__what is ismet/AIRCRACK>03:51
mike_profoX: last I looked it was kind of buggy... but utorrent is best03:51
HAL9000PCLINUXOS03:51
profoXyes automatix breaks things.03:51
VitaminGsethk: I have dial-up, so the KDE libs are a fairly large download for me03:51
BOBSONATORits a wep cracking tool03:51
mike_I have it going now :)03:51
tnzrmike: if you dont want to use it, google for "codec ubuntu" or somethinhg03:51
BOBSONATORlater guys, going to a party.03:51
profoXmike_: torrent is great, too bad its closed source / windows03:52
sethkVitaminG, ok, but if you need them, start the download and go to sleep03:52
louis__web cracking?03:52
tnzryoull find a good page or two regarding isntalling it the manual way03:52
HAL9000Bittornando works well03:52
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wweaselVitaminG: I second the recommendation of utorrent in Wine. I am torrenting somethign in utorrent right now, actually03:52
dalilacome on ps2 mice should work out of the box.... any hints on getting a new ps2 mice hp model m871 working03:52
Madpilotmike_, it's not the acronym itself, it's that "search the f'ing web" isn't really a helpful answer...03:52
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q_a_z_stevehow do I get past the password or something if all I can get is a login prompt?03:53
andaxmike_, if you don't want to use automatix then go to www.mplayerhq.hu and follow the installation instructions, or have a look at http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html  for the quick and easy way to get mplayer. It will play every multimedia content03:53
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profoXlouis__: kismet/aircrack are programs for wardriving or for checking wireless connections and/or breaking the used encryption (wep/wpa) on the networks03:53
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks03:53
wweaselmike_: utorrent in wine is 100% stable. just has an annoying flicker.03:53
mike_Madpilot: It is very helpful when someone is asking something that is answered better and faster by a google search than by someone explaining things to them03:53
mike_wweasel: ok.  last time I futzed about on utorrent forums it said it had issues. :)03:53
profoXwweasel: yea and its ugly as hell - for the rest it works fine03:53
Madpilotandax, recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats over autobreakix or random Google searches03:53
mike_who cares if it's ugly03:54
profoXmike_: i do - its part of my desktop03:54
profoX:)03:54
wweaselmike_: Alot of people.03:54
VitaminGwell thanks, I'll try a few of these ideas03:54
louis__profox,you are a good person03:54
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toddobryanI'm trying to set up nfs for my computer lab at school. (I teach.) I'm going through the NFS How-To, and it looks like Ubuntu isn't paying attention to hosts.deny or hosts.allow.03:54
toddobryanAm I missing something?03:54
mike_profoX: you do ... what? :)03:54
profoXlouis__: lol -- thank you very much03:54
wweaselmike_: he cares if it's ugly03:54
profoXmike_: i do care about it being pretty03:54
blindoh jeez.03:54
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HAL9000Whats everyones favorite OS03:54
wweaselprofoX: Is there any way to get it to show an icon on the taskbar?03:55
profoXwweasel: its been a while since i last ran it -- i use ktorrent now03:55
SoCalHAL9000, Ubuntu03:55
wweaselprofoX: How is KTorrent, compared to uTorrent?03:55
fangoriousis there a way to detect a docking station on a laptop?03:55
SoCalor FreeBSD03:55
profoXwweasel: it's "okay"03:55
mike_blind: eat me03:55
mark__HAL9000, xubuntu03:55
mike_HAL9000: mac or win for desktop, freebsd or gentoo for server03:55
mike_or solaris03:56
blindmike_: follow the coc please :] 03:56
mike_solaris is tasty03:56
louis__show an icon on the taskbar?you mean shortcut?03:56
profoXwweasel: ktorrent is almost as advanced and has a built-in torrent search engine that i like03:56
louis__?03:56
mike_blind: you started it ! >:P03:56
profoXwweasel: and it can be extended by plugin03:56
HAL9000PCLINUXOS here03:56
blindmike_: I didn't start anything.03:56
VOYAGERfangorious, im having mixed results here with compaq m-70003:56
wweaselprofoX: utorrent has a built in torrent search engine too. or, search bar rather.03:56
mike_shrug03:56
wweaselprofoX: but i'm gonna check out KTorrent.03:56
MadpilotFolks, non-tech-support chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...03:56
mark__I want to give FreeBSD a go03:56
profoXwweasel: yea i know but i like ktorrents thing better :) search thing03:56
sethkblind hasn't said anything for quite some time03:56
Don_jrOkay I don't see it on the web page.  can anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card is or is not compatible with Ubuntu?03:56
profoXit has a built in HTML browser03:56
sethkmark__, freebsd is an interesting o/s03:56
SoCalFreeBSDis nice...especially for a server03:56
MrParanoiais sysv-rc-conf still valid in ubuntu 6.06.1?03:56
SoCalAs for desktop, I like Ubuntu03:57
SoCaleverything works03:57
mark__also might give Fedora a go one day03:57
MadpilotDon_jr, routers shouldn't care what's connecting to them...03:57
MrParanoiaor is there a different config tool available?03:57
Don_jrit's not a router, it's the card that I want to put in my laptop03:57
SoCalI don't care for Fedora...I dunno why...jut me03:57
louis__SocCal,i like ubuntu too03:57
SoCaljust me03:57
toddobryanAnybody know anything about setting up NFS?03:57
sethkDon_jr, I haven't tried that particular card.03:57
SoCallol louis__03:57
MrParanoiaapt-get won't install it03:57
profoXlouis__: no he meant something else ;)03:57
andaxDon_jr, confirmed, it will be autodetected and will work03:57
profoXlouis__: about the icon on taskbar03:57
sethkDon_jr, the card is not important, what you need to know is the chipset03:57
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fangoriousis there a way to configure gdm to start X with a specific ServerLayout?03:58
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sethkDon_jr, then we can tell you whether there is support for it.03:58
Don_jrThanx Andax, I was told it should but wanted to double check.03:58
louis__i know,i am a new hand,so sorry03:58
SoCalwell...I'm out for now...see everyone another time03:58
profoXlouis__: np03:58
profoXSoCal: later03:58
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mike_I can't install w32codecs ??03:58
mike_it says it's a package that refers to anothe rpackage or something03:58
Don_jrAs long as I can get my wireless card to work with ubuntu I'll be in good shape.  I"m goign to let it finish installing.03:59
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mike_Is there any Linux desktop OS that support flash, wmv, real media, quicktime etc etc out of the box ?03:59
profoXwweasel: you might like torrent better though03:59
VOYAGERMrParanoia,  i got my info up on http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/03:59
mike_Don_jr: good luck!!03:59
distantbody"mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"03:59
toddobryanOK. I'm going to have to use guilt...It's 10:00pm local time, and I'm sitting here in my classroom *hoping* that somebody knows something about nfs.04:00
profoXwweasel: ktorrent has a few advantages and looks better imo but torrent seems to be faster (finds more peers?)04:00
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andaxtoddobryan, what's the question about nfs?04:00
toddobryanmike_: It would be impossible to support out of the box. They'd have to pay licensing fees probably. But you can download what you want.04:00
mike_distantbody: right.  apt-get install doesn't install it04:00
VOYAGERhttp://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/04:00
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toddobryanSo, I'm going through the NFS HowTo on nfs.sourceforge.net.04:01
wweaselprofox: interesting, thanks04:01
mike_toddobryan: mhm.  there should be a script on desktop that says "click here to install a bunch of crap you probably want to have"04:01
distantbody"mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"      Use "ADD/REMOVE" to install mplayer, it plays win3204:01
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profoXwweasel: it has something to do with - i forgot how it's called, something that azureus has too ;) but ktorrent doesn't04:01
mark__http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper04:01
profoXsome technology to find more peers04:01
tnzrmike: you ahve to add some new repositories, then do some apt-getting to install the multimedia stuff04:01
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toddobryanIt says to check security for portmap. I did, and hosts.deny and hosts.allow seem not to have any effect.04:01
andaxprofoX, DHT?04:01
profoXtnzr: yea but cipherfunk is down afaik04:01
profoXandax: yea thats it..04:02
mike_tnzr: this is all stuff a desktop user has ZERO interest in doing :(04:02
profoXandax: i could be wrong about what exactly it is though?04:02
tnzrmike: thats where you come in :)04:02
mike_Thought maybe Desktop LInux was ready.  sadly it's not04:02
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tnzrthat clearly depends on what you mean by "ready :D04:02
Madpilotmike_, the reasons Linux can't support Flash/mp3/etc/etc is legal, not technical.04:03
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Madpilotcan't support it out of the box, that is04:03
mike_Madpilot: Right.  There should stil lbe an auto-install script04:03
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NemesisUKmike_, it mostly is, just takes patience and little bit of research04:03
profoXlegal problems are the biggest problem for linux04:03
tnzrmike: there pretty much is04:03
Madpilotmike_, there are legal problems w/ an autoinstall script too...04:03
mark__mike_ their is automatix but it is dodgy04:03
mike_tnzr: If everyone who wants to use linux needs their own personal sysadmin, it's doomed.  I cost $30/hr minimum.04:03
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:04
mike_NemesisUK: AGAIN, Joe ServicePack doesn't care :)  they just want it to work04:04
Don_jrAny aproximates on how long the install could take?04:04
dalilatotally lost on getting ps/2 mouse working plse help04:04
Madpilotmike_, you just need a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, it's not that complex04:04
distantbodymike_ select the "applications" menu then "Add/remove" then search for "mplayer"04:04
mike_Madpilot: It's complex for Joe Servicepack04:04
profoXmike_: then linux is not for joe servicepack04:04
tnzrmike: well I like to think that linux isnt really geared for people who require a sysadmin in order to get it up and running04:04
mike_distantbody: doing apt-get mplayer now.  hopefully that is gmplayer04:04
NemesisUKmike_, I just want it to work, but linux is like life and doesnt work that way04:04
Madpilotmike_, not from what I've seen, with friends I've converted to Ubuntu...04:04
tnzrif one cant see why using linux is advantageous, then one prolly should just stick to windows04:04
mike_Madpilot: still not ready.  until total idiot can install everything themselves it's not ready04:04
dalilaits a [s/2 optical04:05
ali1234mike_: anybody who has a computer connected to the internet needs a sysadmin. OS doesn't matter04:05
mike_profoX: "linux for human beings"04:05
tnzrmike: its not linux's fault that windows made idiots out of the computer using population :)04:05
profoXMadpilot: amen.. i converted total "noobs" to ubuntu -- and they have their own questions and problems -- but everything is going smooth now04:05
Madpilotmike_, ever done a from-bare-metal install of Windows? You've got to do far more crap to get a usable OS there than you do with a from-bare install of Ubuntu...04:05
sethkmike_, there are enough human beings who can handle ubuntu04:05
mike_ali1234: not really.  mac users are fine.  windoze users can get by, albeit with lots of spyware and viruses04:05
andaxtnzr, lol agree on that :))04:05
tnzrMadpilot: hear hear04:05
sethkmike_, ok, then let those users use windows04:05
JackMacOKCi just installed the realplayer .bin installer from real.com. how can i uninstall it properly?04:05
mike_Madpilot: not with winxp04:05
sethkmike_, linux is not instead of windows, it's better than windows04:05
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Don_jrSo the spyware and virus problems that windows has is not as great on the *nix systems?04:06
mike_sethk: add more to chat than just that please04:06
ISOLATEDViRuShey, apparently xchat was deleted when I updated the software, how do I get it back and is mIRC available for ubuntu?04:06
sethkmike_, you're in charge, now?04:06
mike_sethk: depends on what "better" means.  win provides better desktop experience04:06
profoXMadpilot: i don't agree completely.. it depends what you need/seek in an OS04:06
sethkISOLATEDViRuS, that's odd, nothing is deleted04:06
wweaselYeah, honestly, I have more trouble converting users who know somewhat what they're doing than complete noobs. Complete noobs, you tell them "click here for internet, when it asks you to install updates say yes, click here to shutdown" and they're happy04:06
sethkmike_, then use windows04:06
distantbodyJackMacOKC : Reinstall Ubuntu;)04:06
profoXif you want to make your linux do everything windows does -- you'll have to change alot04:06
mike_sethk: I don't want my time wasted.  actually say something if you're going to chat to me :)04:06
Madpilotmike_, yes, with WinXP. I've done several from-bare installs of XP, it's unusable by default. No word processor, a crap browser, no codecs...04:06
tnzrmike: use a Mac, it kills windows in "desktop usability"04:06
h00tcan someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it04:06
profoXthe reverse is true too04:06
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sethkmike_, I decide what I want to say, not you.04:06
mike_Madpilot: yes.  but installing these thins is simpler04:06
wweaselmike_: stop being an ass.04:06
tehsutnzr: very true04:06
profoXwweasel: amen04:06
mike_sethk: ok, you're ignored now04:07
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profoXwweasel: to the converting :)04:07
JackMacOKCdistantbody: joking aside04:07
sethkmike_, I'm crushed.  :)04:07
tehsumike_: go away04:07
Madpilotmike_, not really, and you've got to isntall far MORE stuff to get XP useable04:07
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tehsu^^ what he said04:07
sethksomebody ban this guy?  :)04:07
ISOLATEDViRuSsec im checking it04:07
mark__Madpilot, so true04:07
wweaselI second what madpilot said.04:07
tnzrnot only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need04:07
Madpilotsethk, he's almost earned that...04:07
mike_tehsu: blow me04:07
profoXsethk: not yet..04:07
xepherMadpilot got it on the spot.04:07
tehsumike_: only windows users would like to do that04:07
Don_jrI won't have the problems with spyware and virus's in unix for browsing around?  That sounds nice.04:07
sethkMadpilot, that last comment?04:07
h00tcan someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it04:08
Madpilotmike_, last warning. Be civil, or be banned.04:08
mike_Madpilot: true, but it is easier to do on windows than linux, for most things04:08
profoXmike_: I suggest you be a little more friendly -- unless you really want to get banned here -- you're really not helping here04:08
mike_Madpilot: I'm being plenty "CIVIL"04:08
Don_jrI just want to try it out.  Been using windows for ever and I"m tired of the microsoft monopoly.04:08
sethkh00t, do you know the process name?04:08
wweaselDon_jr: Nope, no spyware, nothing on your computer that you didn't want.04:08
distantbody"not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need" NLITE FTW!04:08
h00tno idea04:08
neil__I would like to migrate a windows app to Linux, it appears the app is using MSSQL7 for it data backend, can MSSQL7 databases be read by Linux directly?04:08
sethkh00t, do ps aux, see what name looks likely.  Hopefully you'll be able to spot it.04:08
h00ti did "ps -l" but it won't show04:08
Don_jrThat's great.  I"m liking this more and more.  And Iv'e heard it's fairly simple to run a web server on a unix system aswell?04:08
sethkh00t, not ps -l.   ps aux04:08
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Don_jrapache I believe was the name used?04:09
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wweaseldon_jr: there are plenty of good tutorials on setting up apache, yes04:09
MiekDon_jr: i prefer lighttpd :p04:09
profoXh00t: also try: sudo killall process-name04:09
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profoXh00t: sudo killall emule04:09
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profoXfor instance04:09
mike_Don_jr: it's simple to do that on any system, but you'd be well advised to use a seperate computer for your server.  you don't want personal inof etc on a globally accessible machine04:09
sethkDon_jr, yes, apache is the most popular web server04:09
sethkDon_jr, there are others, as well04:09
MadpilotDon_jr, you can run Apache easily on Ubuntu - it's a complex app, though04:09
sethkDon_jr, I use apache, have for years04:09
mike_Don_jr: I'd recommned "abyss" web server04:09
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Don_jrOnly thing that get's me is how much am I going to have to learn to program in c or any other language to make things work.04:09
tnzrDon_jr: none.04:10
sethkDon_jr, no you don't04:10
mike_Don_jr: you don't have to be able to program04:10
sethkDon_jr, what gave you that idea?04:10
Don_jrno more compiling to add new programs?04:10
tnzrDon_jr: but if you know any programming, you can have a lot of fun in linux04:10
neil__Don_jr: I beleave there are more apache web-servers on the internet than all the others combined.04:10
mike_Don_jr: you do need to be able to use a lot of logic and reasoning skills.04:10
h00tthank you it worked04:10
sethkDon_jr, I encourage you to learn, because you can save work, but it is optional04:10
Sarra_I wanna learn C04:10
h00tcan i do that in debian04:10
cfeddeSarra_: go for it!04:10
MadpilotDon_jr, there's 18000 packages in Ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile. Besides, you don't need to know programming to compile, actually.04:10
mike_Don_jr: are you sure you're not trolling04:10
tehsutheme04:10
sethkSarra_, C is actually an easy language, don't be aafraid of it.04:10
tehsuer04:10
distantbodyI'm running windows on Ubuntu right now, with a second instance of Ubuntu axting as a server, Thanks to VMWare:)04:10
Don_jrreading books about linux/unix the cshel, sshell and compiling things.....04:10
tnzrDon_jr: you may have to compile a program here and there but its not difficult04:10
profoXDon_jr: to get Really into linux, a bit of bash knowledge might help ;) but for the rest you don't have to learn anything04:10
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wweaselOpinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?04:10
Don_jrtrolling?04:11
xepher...04:11
sethkDon_jr, don't use cshell, it's old and awful04:11
tnzryou dont have to know how to program to build a package, usually you just have to type "make; make install"04:11
Don_jrbash?04:11
profoXmike_: are You sure you're not trolling :)04:11
sethkDon_jr, bash is good, and zsh is even better04:11
nich0sHey allz, I would just like to say Ubuntu rocks my face off...04:11
Madpilotubotu, tell Don_jr about cli04:11
nich0sThat is all.04:11
wweaselDon_jr: Bash is the command line in Linux04:11
sethkanybody here who uses ignore is trolling by definition04:11
profoXDon_jr: bash is the language that you write on the "terminal"04:11
mike_profoX: uh, no.  no idea how you would even think that.04:11
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profoXmike_: just asking ;)04:11
JackMacOKCnich0s: well how do you see then?04:11
mike_is there a way to do like the hardware configuration that happens at install again?04:11
sethkDon_jr, bash is one option to use as the command line in ubuntu04:11
mike_profoX: heh, ok :-)04:11
Don_jrsimilar to dos?  kinda like ls for list files, I read that somewhere04:11
Sarra_I'm learning Java, so C should be easy to pick up in the future04:12
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sethkwweasel, it's inaccurate to say bash is "the command line".  just one option04:12
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MadpilotDon_jr, similar - see the PM that ubotu just sent you04:12
profoXDon_jr: yes, but bash is way better and more complex04:12
tnzrDon_jr: ls is a command, bash is the shell in which you execute that command04:12
sethkDon_jr, I run zsh in windows because the windows shell is so awful, but I suppose there are similarities04:12
wweaselsethk: yep, an oversimplification.04:12
Don_jroh sheesh, didn't even notice it.04:12
tnzrDon_jr: kind of like how COmmand.com is the shell you execute the "dir" command in at a dos promp04:12
tnzrt04:12
distantbodyBourne-Again SHell  a pun (Bourne again / born again) on the Bourne shell (sh) - an early, important Unix shell written by Stephen Bourne and distributed with Version 7 Unix, circa 1978. bash was created in 1987 by Brian Fox. In 1990, Chet Ramey became the primary maintainer.04:12
sethkwweasel, zsh is so good, and many people don't even know they have choices.04:12
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mike_sethk: ooh.  interesting.  I use cygwin install to get a usable shell....04:12
mike_so no one has a clue about my wireless problem ?04:13
sethkmike_, cygwin shell is bash, but you can also run it with zsh04:13
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wweaselnope04:13
tnzrmike: whats the wireless problem?04:13
Don_jrthanx for that link. I'll be bookmarking that04:13
tnzrsorry I didnt see you talking about it earlier04:13
Don_jrtnzr thanx, that makes sense04:13
wweaselOpinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?04:13
VOYAGERmike_, i tried you wouldnt listen04:13
tnzrDon_jr: no prob04:13
nich0sJackMacOKC, It doesn't rick my head off, nor my tendons, muscles, or eyes,04:13
nich0sJackMacOKC, Just the flesh making up my face.04:13
louis__how can i get a process's pid? for example,i run xmms,then how can i know the process used by xmms and the pid.use command top?04:13
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JackMacOKCnich0s: :)04:13
tnzrlouis__: ps -ef |grep xmms04:13
sethklouis__, ps aux | grep xmms04:13
wweaselsethk: What do you use to rip CDs?04:14
Don_jrOkay, being a windows idget all my life.  How will learning to program in bash, c, what ever language is needed make things better for me?04:14
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profoXlouis__: ps -e|grep xmms04:14
sethkwweasel, I still use cdrecord and utilities to create the image04:14
profoXok enough options to choose from04:14
wweaselDon_jr: It's not necessary to learn how to program in bash or anything.04:14
Sarra_Unless you're creating your own apps, it won't help at all Don_jr04:14
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JackMacOKCDon_jr: becuase then you can effectively compile and repair things, everything04:14
louis__thanks very much:)04:14
Don_jrok04:14
sethkps has many options because both the bsd and system V syntax is supported04:14
nich0sJackMacOKC, So gimme stuff to play with that will make me love it even more.  I will even take interesting reading. :P04:14
tnzrDon_jr: you only need to know how to program in bash if you want to write scripts to automate certain tasks04:14
Don_jrso it's more for trouble shooting than anything at this point?04:14
madman-i installed freepops but i dont know if it's started or running. how can i know these things ?04:14
MadpilotDon_jr, small bash scripts can be helpful for stuff you do repeatedly, but really, you can use Ubuntu without learning anything beyond very basic command line stuff04:14
Sarra_What the heck04:15
mike_VOYAGER: You said "login as sudo".  I was promoptly informed by twelve other people in channel that you were full of crap04:15
Namelesshelp, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?04:15
distantbodyDon_jr You need to learn how to COMMAND you computer, not program for it...04:15
Don_jrgreat04:15
JackMacOKCnich0s: sudo apt-get install streamtuner04:15
sethkmadman-, ps aux will show you running processes04:15
Sarra_I unplugged my laptop, and now I have a power meter? Why didn't this ever show up before?04:15
Don_jrokay04:15
madman-looking04:15
tnzrDon_jr: its not for troubleshooting but it can be.. you can do all sorts of stuff with bash once you get good at it.. but its not a requirement.  lots of weathered *nix users dont know the first thing about shell scripting04:15
profoXmike_: code of conduct please04:15
VOYAGERif you want to change those settings you must be as ubuntus root which is su04:15
mike_http://pastebin.ca/14699404:15
tnzrmike: what are you trying to do and what kind of card is it04:15
sethkshell scripting saves a lot of work, frequently, but you can survive easily without it.04:15
Namelesshelp :\04:16
wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!04:16
mike_tnzr: http://pastbin.ca/146994 that is all the details you should need04:16
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tnzrVOYAGER: ubuntus' root user is "root" .. su is a command used to become another user (usually to become root)04:16
mark__ack04:16
JackMacOKCNameless: which key?04:16
Don_jrOkay so I could tell it that when I open firefox it automatically logs me into gaim at the same time?  things like that?04:16
tnzrmike: looking04:16
louis__yeah,i got it!thanks!04:16
mike_VOYAGER: what other guy say.  see above04:16
VOYAGERtnzr if your so smart help him04:16
Namelessthe key for Xgl04:16
distantbodySarra System>preferences>power management04:16
tnzrVOYAGER: im trying :)04:16
VOYAGERdont critisize04:16
tnzri didnt criticize, I just informed you so you wouldnt go around thinking the wrong thing :)04:17
nich0sJackMacOKC, Wassat?04:17
MadpilotDon_jr, you could create a little script that starts both firefox & gaim when you run it, yeah04:17
VOYAGERhe wont change it as the user04:17
Don_jrOkay, that's cool.  Deffinatly couldn't do that with any ease in windows XP04:17
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JackMacOKCnich0s: its the command to install the package streamtuner. in a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install streamtuner' to install the streamtuner program04:17
madman-sethk: ok found it. it's running. very nice, thank you04:17
mike_Uhm, unless I miss something, there is no root user in ubuntu.  the first user acct created has full sudo rights though.04:17
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erikahi :)04:17
tehsumike_: bad card04:18
tnzrmike: is your card eth1? eth0?04:18
mike_tehsu: No, it works in another machine.04:18
profoXerika: hi04:18
mike_tnzr: wlan004:18
distantbodyFor those who need to learn how to do simple linux commands, I highly recommend Tuxfiles.com04:18
tnzrmike: id root04:18
tehsumike_: not supported very well04:18
profoXmike_: there is aroot user but it has no password by default iirc04:18
tehsumike_: and root is in ubuntu04:18
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erikaty profoX04:18
mike_tehsu: google sez it works04:18
tehsumike_: driver04:18
Namelesssuper key =  left win key04:18
tnzrmike: iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed04:18
tnzrthat will take it out of ad-hoc mode04:18
mike_profoX: ok, my point is, there is no 'su' user or whatever VOYAGER was tellin gme04:18
Namelesshow i can enable it ?04:18
sethktehsu, that's correct, su in ubuntu is the same as all other distros04:18
mike_tnzr: ty, I think that what I need.... I can't get it out of adhoc, I try now04:18
madman-distantbody: thank you04:18
tehsusethk: yup04:19
sethkand there _is_ a root password for all the install options except desktop04:19
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tnzrmike_: is your wireless router running dhcp?04:19
nich0sJackMacOKC, I got that much, but what is the "streamtuner" program?04:19
MorpseI04:19
tnzri use root even as desktop04:19
mike_tnzr: yes04:19
JackMacOKCnich0s: you said you wanted to see something cool. so install it and see04:19
mike_tnzr: laptop right by this one use wifi now04:19
tehsusudo passwd root set new passwd and then u can become root04:19
sethkthat is, the root password is set during install for other installation types04:19
madman-the madman runs over to tuxfiles.com04:19
distantbodyyou don't need to useapt-get, Synaptic is much better for the command line-disinclined04:19
tnzrmike: ok what kind of encryption is your router using?04:19
MorpseI've got a gateway tablet pc, is there a driver to get the pen working?04:19
tnzrmike: WEP/WPA2/etc?04:19
Nameless(04:16) <JackMacOKC> Nameless: which key? <--- left win key04:20
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sethkMorpse, there are a couple of tablet drivers.  do you know the internals?04:20
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mike_tnzr: can you see the private messagee ?04:20
tnzryes04:20
distantbodytnzr, oblig YOUR CRAZY comment...;)04:20
mike_ok04:20
sethkMorpse, analogous to knowing that a touchpad is a particular type04:20
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mike_I'm rebooting mike's machine04:20
mike_usb light not on04:20
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tnzrdistantbody: hehe how come :)04:20
tnzrok04:20
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wikijeffShould I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!04:21
MorpseXP calls it a Finepoint inovations tablet04:21
birdfishSo how is the new Ubuntu Server 6.0 LTS?04:21
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birdfishI'm at college and haven't been home in a while to install and test it out :(04:21
mcquaidhello, i just put a new drive and created about a 70 gig partition (ext3) but its already reporting some used04:21
distantbodytnzr: are you SERIOUS!?04:21
tnzrdistantbody: about what?04:21
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mcquaid/dev/hdd2              71G  129M   68G   1% /mnt/newlin04:21
sethkbirdfish, it's fine, but I recommend installing breezy, and waiting a few weeks more for dapper04:21
nickv111Hello. I'm using multiverse, and I'm wondering, where is sun-java5-bin?04:21
nomasteryodamcquaid, that is the file system04:21
nickv111apt-cache search doesn't turn it up04:21
JackMacOKCNameless: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard04:21
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forbidden_fruithow do i find out the amount of free space on a drive in ubuntu? is there a partition manager?04:21
nomasteryodasome will be used04:21
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mcquaidnothing is there, and how does 129m make a 3 gig difference04:22
Jamminpotatoi <3 ubuntu04:22
birdfishsethk: so 6.06 is Dapper then?04:22
nomasteryodaforbidden_fruit, df -Th04:22
madman-distantbody: just a little help, thats all a person needs. very nice site @_@04:22
sethkbirdfish, right04:22
nomasteryodasimple command04:22
NamelessJackMacOKC: i don't use Gnome, i use Xfce404:22
distantbodytnzr: Do you really login as root by default?...04:22
Nameless:\04:22
erikaI haven't been here in a couple of months... switched from winders to ubuntu at the intro of breezy... been banging my hammer on my PC for a while now. Most things work... thought I'd pop in and ask a few ? :)04:22
forbidden_fruitnomasteryoda: that command?04:22
forbidden_fruitty04:22
profoXbirdfish: yes 6.06 is dapper drake04:22
birdfishsethk: Upgrading from Breezy server to Dapper shouldn't be a problem later, should it?04:22
nomasteryodaya04:22
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tnzrdistantbody: yeah or I su - to root whenever I need to do root things04:22
mcquaidnomasteryoda, doesn't something look wrong there in it reported 129 used yet 71G vs 68G?04:22
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sethkbirdfish, it's easy to upgrade04:22
JackMacOKCNameless: sorry, then i cant help you there. you should specify these things when asking your question, fyi.04:22
profoXbirdfish: it shouldn't, but you never know (certain hardware problems etc)04:22
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quintinnickv111: search for 'jre' in synaptic and you'll find it04:23
birdfishsethk: I was just looking forward to having an automated LAMP installer =)04:23
birdfishWhich brings me to my next point04:23
forbidden_fruitty nomasteryoda04:23
forbidden_fruit:)04:23
sethkbirdfish, you can install that version if you don't mind a few minor glitches04:23
nickv111quintin: I did. I can't install it04:23
birdfishIs the automated LAMP installer packaged with Apache 1.3 or 2.2?04:23
tnzrdistantbody: i dont like having to type sudo in front of every command I do as root.. im too fast, I need my own root shell04:23
supernixI thought about installing ubuntu but when I went to try and install ubuntu-desktop it gave a warning about breaking but did not say what it would break04:23
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nickv111quintin: It doesn't seem to exist in my collection of packages, or apt would turn it up04:23
sethkbirdfish, hash to be v204:23
Nameless(04:15) <Nameless> help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?04:23
Namelessi have specified04:23
Nameless:\04:23
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sethksupernix, give us the exact message, we'll tell you what it means04:24
supernixoh I also am the proud owner of the Official Ubuntu Linux book04:24
lupine_85question about ubuntu's various kernels04:24
distantbodytnzr: Yeah, well everyone needs to use "superuser do" (sudo)04:24
tnzrdistantbody: I dont run X as root and sit around as root when im just computing in general :)04:24
Don_jrso how much work will I be doing out of the shell instead of in the desktop like view?04:24
birdfishsethk: hash (meaning open up the package config and manually set?)04:24
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Morpseis the book worth getting if you already have the hacks book?04:24
Don_jrand what is 'X'?04:24
MadpilotDon_jr, not much, unless you break something ;)04:24
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supernixsethk: it does not give any message just said break how can I find out what the message might be ?04:24
tehsuWhats a good desktop monitor?04:24
sethkbirdfish, was that pointed at me?04:24
lupine_85would a kernel built for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?04:24
MadpilotDon_jr, X is the desktop/graphical server04:24
birdfishsethk: I'm coming from BSD land =P It's been a really long time since I've installed ubuntu =)04:24
mcquaidso ext3 always takes 129 megs?04:24
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birdfishsethk: yep.  I just wanted to clarify what you meant by "hash"04:25
mcquaidseems like a lot for the filesystem04:25
sethksupernix, it can't just say break things, it has to say something about what you are doing.  Do you mean during the boot loader installation?04:25
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:25
Don_jrserver? so X is what i"m looking at during this ubuntu install, that looks similar to windows?04:25
sethkbirdfish, sorry, typo, I meant has to be v204:25
profoXmcquaid: i think it reserves a percentage of your available space instead of a solid value..04:25
distantbodytnzr: Oh, I thought thats what you meant...:)04:25
sethkDon_jr, well, similar is in the eye of the beholder, but it's the gui04:25
MadpilotDon_jr, "the X server" is the base of the whole graphical enviroment in Linux, more or less.04:25
tnzrhehe04:25
birdfishsethk: Ah, sweet, thanks.  And also, if you don't mind... What are a couple of the biggest bugs I might find in Dapper?04:25
sethkDon_jr, X is the gui, gnome (or kde) (typically) is the desktop04:25
profoXmcquaid: you can override it but thats not advised04:25
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supernixnah04:26
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sethkbirdfish, there seem to be cases where the install doesn't complete.  very few, but a few.04:26
MorpseDon_jr, think of linux more windows 3.1 and dos. X is the gui that runs over the consol04:26
supernixI was running adept and trying to do an install while running Kubuntu04:26
mcquaidprofoX, i guess i'll leave it, but what does it reserve it for?04:26
Don_jrokay, sorry to be a dope, what's the difference between 'gnome' and the 'gui' it's self.04:26
birdfishsethk: Hm... Sounds like Windows =P04:26
Don_jrso gnome it's self is running X and X is what I see?04:26
tnzrgnome is a window manager for X04:26
sethkDon_jr, gui is a generic term, graphical user interface04:26
birdfishI'm excited! :D04:26
VOYAGERbirdfish, ive had 2 fail to a command line because of video04:26
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distantbodyGUI = graphical user interface04:26
tnzrDon_jr: if you installed X without a window manager, youd start it up and see a black/white crosshatched pattern as the background with a little "x" mouse cursor04:27
Morpsegnome is the windows manager, gnome runs on top of X to give buttons and window borders and the like04:27
sethkDon_jr, a desktop is software that runs on a gui04:27
profoXmcquaid: i'm not sure how it works - you should google on it - or check the man page04:27
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distantbodyGUI is a very generic term...04:27
tnzrDon_jr: then you run something like gnome or KDE or Fluxbox or what have you, and suddenly it becomes pretty04:27
erikaI got a letter from the ntsb today informing me that somebody stole a laptop that had the names, ss numbers and a whole lot of "identity theft applicable" data on it. That got me to wondering... is Linux still as secure as it was last november?04:27
lupine_85erm, rephrasing... would a kernel *module* compiled with linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 run under linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 ?04:27
mcquaidbtw, this disks-admin utility, I enabled the partitions there.  It doesn't seem to touch fstab, does this survive a reboot?04:27
sethkDon_jr, in windows that distinction doesn't exist, unix is more more intelligently layered04:27
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Don_jroh wow, I got lot's to learn.04:27
sethks/more more/much more/04:27
birdfishVOYAGER: so you issued a graphical command without having X installed?  Or you didn't install X and issuing any command crashes the system anyhow?04:27
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sethkcan't type04:27
mcquaidit would be nice if there is a gui means of permenately enabled partitions without hacking fstab04:27
profoXmcquaid: check your pm04:27
Madpiloterika, I don't get the connection between a stolen NTSB laptop & Ubuntu?04:27
Don_jrso X is the shell of the 'gui' per se?04:27
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profoXoh damn im not logged in04:28
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MadpilotDon_jr, more or less04:28
sethkbirdfish, I think he just means that a couple of apps didn't run for him04:28
VOYAGERx wouldnt install because of video failed to cli04:28
tnzrmcquaid: theyre out there IT hink.. ive seen gui fdisk managers & stuff04:28
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Don_jrok04:28
mcquaidprofoX, pm?04:28
mcquaiddo you mean parted?04:28
sethkmcquaid, pm is private message04:28
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sethkmcquaid, an IRC thing04:28
nickv111For some reason, sun-java5-bin doesn't exist in my repository04:28
profoX`mcquaid: no i mean private message in irc -- hold on04:28
nickv111s/repository/apt cache04:28
sethknickv111, doesn't exist in mine, either04:28
mcquaidthats what I thought at first, but i have no pm04:28
birdfishVOYAGER: Ah, I see.  I'm pretty sure that I won't be running X from the start anyhow, but I would hope something that major would be patched quickly anyhow04:29
distantbodymcquaid: It can all be found under System>administator04:29
nickv111sethk: I'm in multiverse04:29
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nickv111sethk: Know why that would be?04:29
BSG75hi how do I make ndiswrapper work with ubuntu please? it is already installed and the windows driver is already installed .. however ubuntu thinks it has setup my nic correctly under eth0 .. I have done modprobe ndiswrapper .. but I don't see wlan004:29
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VOYAGERbirdfish,  ok04:29
wweaselHelp please? I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. (yes, the volume is on, yes sound works in other programs)04:29
sethknickv111, I downloaded from sun.java.com instead of using the package manager.  the package does exist; I don't know the repository04:29
sethknickv111, there are things not in the "official" repositories04:29
Don_jrsheesh this looks confusing...what's with the dw--w--d-d in front of the file names?04:29
sethkDon_jr, d means directory04:29
birdfishI've just noted the vibrant green warning about a patch fix (error).  Sounds like they might have fixed part of the X system earlier today.04:30
sethkDon_jr, the privileges are for owner, group, and other04:30
sethkDon_jr, r is read priv, w is write priv, x is execute priv04:30
VOYAGERyeah04:30
erikaMadpilot... I'm a professional pilot. I assume the reason they contacted me was that the laptop belonged to an faa employee that lost his/her laptop. The laptop was florida pilot specific.04:30
mcquaidso is there a way gui of keeping a partition mounted (survive reboots) without mucking with fstab?  not sure if disks-admin does this04:30
distantbody Don_jr: GOTO http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html04:30
MadpilotDon_jr, read/write/execute privs - basically, who is allowed to do what w/ the file04:30
profoX`mcphail: so 5%  is reserved by default to avoid fragmentation and for processes like syslogd to keep functioning and to have space reserved for su04:30
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louis__tell you a piece good news,i have just received a parcel of ubuntu live cd Version 6.06 sent by from the Netherlands,hoho,hehe04:30
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Don_jrwow....this is gonna get fun04:30
taychouri-aWADDUPP!! I need an mp3 decoder04:30
ISOLATEDViRuSWHATUP!!04:31
taychouri-alol04:31
nich0staychouri-a, I bet you do :P04:31
valehru_Is there any firewall in ubuntu that gives you notifications of what is trying to access the network, and you can deny or approve it?  Much along the lines of Zone Alarm in windows (yuck)04:31
taychouri-a;P04:31
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Madpiloterika, well, unless  your Ubuntu system password was on that laptop, it's not going to affect your Ubuntu install - or anyone else's04:31
nalphaguys there is flash creator like macromedia flash in windows for ubuntu?04:31
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ISOLATEDViRuSSOUP'D!04:31
birdfishlouis__: That's awesome.  I'm just now setting up an account so that I can have a bunch of cd's shipped to me.  I'm going to hand them out around campus =)04:31
taychouri-anich0s: so fo real i need one04:31
erikaMadpilot... you fly?04:31
nickv111sethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/sun-java5-bin04:31
lupine_85nobody know? Or am I just going to have to test it? :(04:31
sethknickv111, thanks04:31
TonrenHow do I find out which user a process is running as?04:31
nickv111sethk: It's in the repository. It's just not in my cache for some odd reason04:31
profoX`lupine_85: what?04:31
sethknickv111, Might need to update04:32
lupine_85"would a kernel modulebuilt for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?"04:32
Madpiloterika, yeah, PPL, working on CPL04:32
sethknickv111, the cache, not your system04:32
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BSG75anyone here knows how to get ndiswrapper to work ?04:32
profoX`lupine_85: no - i don't think so04:32
nickv111sethk: I've already done "apt-get update" multiple times04:32
louis__good idea!04:32
louis__birdfish04:32
eternalswdnickv111, do you have security updates in your sources?04:32
nickv111eternalswd: No.04:32
lupine_85sulk04:32
nickv111eternalswd: Is that necessary?04:32
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nickv111eternalswd: If so, thanks!04:32
birdfishBSG75: is that the nvidia wrapper?04:32
profoX`birdfish: no04:33
eternalswdnickv111, I have a newer version, so it might be I don't know04:33
erikaMadpilot... I'm not worried about my install... I'm just curious about the present state of linux security.04:33
lupine_85ah well, thanks for the answer :)04:33
BSG75birdfish: no it's to get wireless nic to work04:33
profoX`birdfish: its the wireless driver wrapper04:33
tehsuHow can i monitor and utilize04:33
sethkerika, the safety of linux is really unknown, as it isn't strongly attacked.  vandals like to attach where they do the most damage04:33
tehsuthe cpu04:33
birdfishAh, see, it's been a hella long time since I've run graphical in *nix land04:33
tehsuand turn down the voltage04:33
Madpiloterika, "much better than MS's security", is the short version04:33
profoX`birdfish: to wrap wireless windows network drivers and make them usable on linux04:33
birdfishAh, never ran into wireless issues either.  But now that I'm getting a lappy, I might :D04:33
BSG75I wish dapper didn't try to install wireless like the older version .. now I don't know howto take off eth0 that it thinks I need04:33
valehru_birdfish, then how are you running IRC?04:33
VOYAGERBSG75, shure the card needs  ndis wrapper /04:33
BSG75and I can't get wlan0 either04:33
sethktehsu, that's part of power management.  the utilities themselves are ... I think of it  ...04:33
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BSG75under iwconfig .. I can configure the card04:34
birdfishvalehru_: Windows terminal on a college campus? 0_o04:34
sethkBSG75, bring up the network administration tool and disable that interface04:34
sethkBSG75, it's easy to turn one off04:34
valehru_Ahh04:34
erikaOh... and I'm se com inst and atp me, cfii, fe-tj cfii04:34
taychouri-aI need an Mp3 decoder, anyone wanan help me out04:34
nickv111BIBA04:34
BSG75thanks I am looking into it right now sethk04:34
nickv111BIAB*04:34
Don_jrwow, that link is great on teh common commands.  Thanx alot I'll be refferencing it often in the next couple of days04:34
tehsusethk: well my gpu fan is running like crazy and its draining the battery much quicker than it should04:34
birdfishvalehru_: lol, why would I need to be running wireless to utilize IRC?04:34
BSG75afk04:34
supernixdoes anyone know why adept has the word break when you try to install ubuntu-desktop ?04:34
nich0staychouri-a, I would if I knew the first thing about this OS. :P04:34
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MadpilotDon_jr, the BasicCommands one? glad it works :)04:35
valehru_birdfish, I just read about you not running graphically04:35
der0btaychouri-a: have you checked the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki?04:35
taychouri-athanks nich0s04:35
valehru_birdfish, nothing about wireless...04:35
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lupine_85 profox: I'm repo'ing some binary kernel modules, and all these different compiled-for versions are getting on my nerves04:35
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bruenighow would one schedule an even to happen with crontab. I am aware of how to format the line, but can you just edit the crontab file directly or is there some other way you must go about it04:35
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birdfishvalehru_: Ah.  That's just with my servers.  Most of my desktops have been windows stations (mainly because I have to run so much windows only software on campus :/ )04:36
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xepheranyone know of a program that can browse/edit/add files to ext2/3 filesystems under windows?04:36
birdfishvalehru_: it sucks, I know :)04:36
sethkbruenig, you can edit it.  I believe a front end exists also04:36
lupine_85crontab -e works well04:36
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EldaHello04:36
sethkxepher, once drivers for ext2/3 are installed, you use the same tools as for any other files on windows04:36
nich0sxepher, YES!04:36
sethkxepher, windows exploder, for example04:36
SitouhI am trying to get my wireless card to connect to a WPA network. I've installed Network Manager, but it's still not giving me WPA as a connection option04:36
EldaWindows exploded?04:36
valehru_birdfish, indeed it does...but there comes a rare time when windows is needed....thats why I have a disk here somewhere...thank god that that rare time has never happened04:36
zengxiaolonghello04:37
xephersethk, where can i find these drivers? i need to backup some files from windows-> linux04:37
erikaAccording to CBS news in USA tonight one third of all US computers are hijacked by progs that transmit keystrokes and other user data to crooks.04:37
sethkxepher, I don't have the URL, anybody here know the url for downloading ext2/3 drivers for windows?04:37
viator_Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module04:37
sethkxepher, I'll do a quick search.04:37
xephersethk, same04:37
viator_how do i get rid of that04:37
birdfishvalehru_: =) Lucky you.  What other operating systems do you run? (other than ubuntu)  Any BSD's or other flavors that you really like?04:37
nich0sxepher, I'll get you the name of my proggie, one sec.04:37
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valehru_the name is ext2ifs04:37
erikaNow... we all know they are windows PCs04:37
Don_jrWill this thing pop up and tell me when it's done installing?  It's been going for about an hour now04:37
viator_i mean what do i need04:38
EldaErika Im assuing 99% of these 1/3 are using windows?04:38
viator_i got kernel headers thats not it04:38
Eldaand the other 1% mac ;)04:38
distantbodyxepher: Just mount your windows partition and copy the files off of it onto  your linux partition, do you need instructions...?04:38
nich0sext2ifs04:38
tehsuim trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:38
sethkxepher, e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html04:38
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nich0sxepher, ext2ifs04:38
UncleOp22Snagged 6.06 LTS (Desktop) and tried to play with it.  Short report: it hangs after a few minutes of "fiddling" when booted from CDROM.  System details: dual P2/450, 256MB ram, SCSI hard drives (via LSI Logic), cheapo RTL8139-compatible NIC, Matrox Mystique video card.  Runs fine under RH9; I'm exploring ubuntu as a replacement.  Hangs occur after setting up static IP for the NIC (DHCP not currently working, but I'll try that next).  I can bring up 04:38
erikaElda... yah... that's why I only have Linux on my HD04:38
xepherdistantbody, was thinking about doing it from my windows partition... have a little more visual control of where the important ones are04:38
nich0sxepher, it works... doesn't unmount the file system when shutting down windows though04:38
viator_tehsu got somthing else04:39
xephernich0s: thanks04:39
erikaIt's absolutely insane04:39
viator_using apt04:39
xephersethk, thanks04:39
sethkxepher, this is better,  www.fs-driver.org/index.html04:39
viator_like synaptic04:39
RamiKassabhey guys what's a good screenshot program for linux? I use SnagIt for windows and it does scrolling window screenshots and is totally feature packed. Is there anything comparible for linux?04:39
valehru_birdfish, Well I was always a debian fan, used RH 8 for a while.  A friend of mine is trying to get me to use Dyne:bolic distro for some reason...he seems to like it04:39
viator_AND the cli04:39
xephersethk, just found that page04:39
EldaI am still learning to use Linux atm so  atm Win is still my larger partitoin -_-04:39
viator_or mutiple tabs in the cli04:39
sethkxepher, ok, good04:39
xephersethk, It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).04:39
EldaThough Ive not used windows in 4 days now! </proud>04:39
Don_jrI'm on a windows computer right now, installing my first ever *nix system on my laptop beside me.04:39
xepher:)04:39
eternalswdxepher, if you want to backup files from windows to linux, just copy them in linux, it's much safer than writing to ext3 from windows.  If you're trying to backup from linux to windows, then use fs-driver04:39
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EldaWill probably have to go on windows later though as I want to work on some stuff in 3ds >.<04:40
sethkxepher, I agree, if possible write to ext2/3 from linux and only read it in windows04:40
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xephersethk, eternalswd: alright, i'll try that... be right back04:40
valehru_The NTFS support in nix has improved a lot, use the nix drivers04:40
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sethkElda, often you can't get entirely away from it, but that's ok04:40
xephersethk, eternalswd: rebooting to lin04:40
eternalswdxepher, even just reading using the ext3 driver caused me a blue screen04:40
sethkvalehru, it's improved, but it is still dangerous and can corrupt the file system04:40
verbosewhat packages do i need to remove and add to get rid of kde stuff in kubuntu and run ubuntu with gnome?04:41
birdfishvalehru_: I've seen dyne:bolic around, but never looked into it.  I'll go check it out now.04:41
valehru_well.....yeah...but the windows ones are worse.04:41
eternalswdxepher, though who knows if it was the drivers fault or some random combination of events04:41
sethkverbose, just install gnome desktop, don't try to "get rid of" kde04:41
erikaElda... I am sooooooo pissed at Microsoft I doubt I will EVER boot windows on my PC again.04:41
EldaI noticed.... even looking at the games on that tuxgame website or whatever they call it, they try to sell games to play at 2x their price, that and not so many 3d programs out there for it -_-04:41
tehsuim trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) anyone know why i cant apt-get?04:41
SitouhAnybody with experience getting WPA to work? I'm trying to get my box onto the wireless network, and Network Manager doesn't seem to want to give me WPA as an option...04:41
sethkvalehru_, ok, I haven't tested extensively myself, so I can't really say which is worse.04:41
valehru_elda, 3D programs? ever hear of blender?04:41
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EldaWell I enjoy some games when I get to like Eve online, Planet Side, and programs like 3ds-max -_-04:41
verbosesethk: ok, what's that package name?04:42
EldaYep, not as advanced aor as useful as max though04:42
sethktehsu, usually because you didn't run with sudo04:42
fiveironplanetside is awesome04:42
Elda*or04:42
sethktehsu, if not that, then another program (e.g. synaptic) is running and has the lock04:42
EldaHave used them both and was much happier with max04:42
valehru_Elda, I think there is a Maya hack to get it working on Nix04:42
profoX`lupine_85: hey i am wrong..04:42
sethkverbose, I'll get it, hang on04:42
valehru_I did it for a mate of mine once04:42
lupine_85really?04:42
viator_tehsu yes04:42
tehsuk04:42
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profoX`lupine_85: 386 kernel modules work fine on 686 / k7 kernel04:42
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valehru_haha04:42
viator_cause somthing esle is using apt04:42
tehsusethk: yeah u were right now it works04:43
valehru_Elda, who is?04:43
lupine_85w00t! :D04:43
eternalswdthe best way to share info between linux and windows is a fat32 partition IMO04:43
sethkverbose, gnome-desktop-environment04:43
viator_the autoupdater or synaptic  or the add remove programs etc04:43
profoX`lupine_85: but NOT the other way around04:43
sethktehsu, excellent04:43
verbosesethk: thanks04:43
valehru_Elda, damm expensive....I do a bit of Rendering, blender suits my needs for the time being...04:43
birdfishDoes Dapper-Desktop ship with gnome 2.14 now?  Or still 2.12?04:43
profoX`lupine_85: 686/k7 modules don't work on 386 kernel04:43
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distantbodytehsu: System>Administrator>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for gcc, Ps, the message means that the server is busy04:44
EldaDur... thats why I wll stick with 3ds for the time being xD04:44
profoX`birdfish: 2.1404:44
viator_only one thing can use apt at a time04:44
verbosesethk: just so i can do it myself next time, is there an easier way of finding that stuff than asking here or like apt-cache search gnome|more04:44
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sethkviator_, correct04:44
erikaUbuntu does 95% of what I want to do... and it does it well. The other 5% is agravating. I have 2 issues. It won't talk to my camera, and it won't talk to my Battery-backed uninterruptible power supply.04:44
sethkverbose, I used synaptic and searched for    gnome desk        which finds packages with both words in the name04:44
tehsusethk: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables04:44
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birdfishprofoX`: Woot!04:44
EldaQuestion though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?04:44
Bertohi - my machine just got hacked (short story: i'm a moron), so to be safe, i gotta clean out and reinstall.  I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, but my box is OLD.  Does anyone run ubuntu on 5 year old hardware?04:44
sethktehsu, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:44
RamiKassabwhat are the best screenshot apps for linux? I used to use SnagIt for windows but need something for linux now. I need to be able to take scrolling window screenshots04:44
tehsuoh yeah04:45
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EldaAs I cannot apt-get as its on my hd04:45
sethkBerto, sure04:45
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profoX`Berto: system specs?04:45
Bertosethk: really?  ubuntu seems to have too slick of graphics for old hardware04:45
eternalswdRamiKassab, what do you mean by scrolling window screenshots?04:45
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks04:45
valehru_RamiKassab, PrintScreen + GIMP04:45
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fishySound is playing in Banshee and amaroK and other players, but won't work in Pandora.com in Firefox, Flock, or WINE'd Firefox. Any idea what's wrong?04:45
sethkBerto, I've run it with 10 year old graphics cards04:45
xepherback04:45
BertoprofoX` and sethk -  AMD Athlon 550MHz, 384mb RAM04:45
sethkBerto, of course, the performance is lower, but it works04:45
Don_jrBerto I"m installing it now on a system thats 4 or 5 years old.  P2 500 mghz processor with 256 mg ram.04:45
VOYAGERim running on 4 p3's04:45
profoX`Berto: will work fine04:45
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Bertosethk: yeah its ok, Opera sitll runs REAL fast04:45
RamiKassabeternalswd: where the screenshot app scrolls the window as it's taking a screenshot... like a screenshot of a long web page etc04:46
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RamiKassabvalehru: that's not enough for me04:46
sethkBerto, that's ok, although you may want to use a low overhead desktop such as fluxbox04:46
fishyThe little progress bar isn't even moving - maybe Flash doesn't have access to it?04:46
jman8888Is there a better way to ssh other than [ssh sever@192.168.0.10 apt-get ...... ]  Its getting annoying typing so much...04:46
Bertoawesome....   i almost bought a new machine, but kernel 2.6 saved me from doing that.04:46
RamiKassabvalehru: GIMP has the ability to take screenshots but it sucks04:46
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eternalswdRamiKassab, would that be one image, or successive?04:46
sethkBerto, there are a few low overhead desktops; fluxbox is the only one I've tried but several have good reps04:46
RamiKassabeternalswd: one big image04:46
fishyAny help? :)04:46
Bertoi will get a new one when i pay my parents the 1000 i owe them first!04:46
profoX`Berto: i suggest you use xubuntu though, that's faster for your machine than ubuntu/kubuntu, but ubuntu/kubuntu will run fine too -- you can change the desktops after installation too (GNOME/KDE/XFCE)04:46
Bertosethk: i actually get away with kde just fine here... i like the applets, but might give fluxbox another shot04:46
sethkjman8888, do ssh sever@xxxxxxxxxxx     and get the prompt, and then type commands at the prompt04:46
RamiKassabeternalswd: SnagIt for Windows does that among tons of other things, avis, mpegs, etc04:46
w30RamiKassab, Gnome works nice for screenshots, just hit printscreen button04:47
sethkBerto, I use kde also, I was just talking about running on old hardware04:47
BertoprofoX`: what is xubuntu?  a desktop flavor or a different version of the distro?04:47
tehsu!info glib04:47
ubotuPackage glib does not exist in dapper04:47
EldaQuestion though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?04:47
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sethkBerto, but sure, try kde, if the performance is acceptable, keep it, if not, change it.04:47
xephera long night awaits me! backup files from win->lin, reinstall win, move files, reinstall lin04:47
sethkxepher, you don't have a spare ide drive to pop in to the box?04:47
RamiKassabw30: I need something that will scroll the window in the browser though as it's making the screenshot that way I can get a screenshot of a long webpage for example04:47
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WarboHelp, I'm having real problems trying to set up a wireless network. Now that my router has come back to life it is working for wired, but not for wireless. I can't connect to it04:47
JbirkI have a VNC poroblem04:48
xephersethk: what do you mean? to back up the files?04:48
jman8888sethk, WOAH! Its like im on my server...04:48
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SitouhI've got a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card (unsure on chipset) which I'm trying to set up to connect to a WPA wireless network.04:48
distantbodyvalehru: Applications>Accessories>Take Screenshot04:48
xephersethk: i really need to reformat my windows hd, its really slow04:48
JbirkVNC is working, but I keep getting disconnected and it says Unknown Message Type04:48
tjcarterhey all, I was was going to finally try out the nifty gooey installer thing..  Can't seem to find LVM stuff anywhere.  Need I the alt installer for LVM?04:48
Bertoawesome thanks all...04:48
sethkxepher, well, sure, if you want, but I was thinking about installing ubuntu on the second disk04:48
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sethkxepher, oh, ok04:48
erikaI tried xubuntu... wanted to love it. I gave up when I tried to set up my printer. Xubuntu is still a geek os.04:48
JbirkHelp04:48
tehsusethk: whats the aptget for glib04:48
xephersethk: :)04:48
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T3KnOhello?04:48
sethkxepher, a second drive will also speed up the backup04:48
sethktehsu, I'll look, but, it should be installed as a dependency of whatever is using it.04:48
Don_jrmy goodness Ubuntu takes a while to install....04:48
xephersethk: yeah..04:48
profoX`Sitouh: find out the chipset using google or: lspci|grep Ethernet04:48
T3KnOcan anybody help me with a question about QQ Instant Messenger on Ubuntu?04:48
Warboerika: I don't like Xubuntu, just because it doesn't give me enough control04:49
T3KnOanybody?04:49
profoX`Don_jr: sarcasm?04:49
xephersethk: dont really feel like opening up my computer's guts at the moment (dust, furry animals, etc.)04:49
EldaTo install a file I unzipper would I have to use ./make install or what?04:49
louis__T3LnO,are u a chinese?04:49
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sethktehsu, libglib2.0-dev04:49
WarboDon_jr: That is because of all the great stuff it comes with04:49
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Elda*unzipped04:49
tehsuty04:49
profoX`xepher: furry what o_O04:49
tehsuls04:49
tehsuer04:49
profoX`sounds unhealthy04:49
sethkDon_jr, you can install a minimal system much more quickly04:49
Don_jrnot sarcasm, I wasn't expecting over an hour of nothing but disk spinning...lol04:49
xepherprofoX`: nothing... did i say something? :)04:50
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louis__maybe i can help you ,T3KnO,i use qq04:50
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Don_jrnothign on the screen to show progress, just the disk going crazy! lol04:50
profoX`I install ubuntu completely in 15 minutes04:50
Don_jryou have a much faster system than I do profox04:50
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profoX`on 800 Mhz machine Don_jr04:50
Don_jrmines only 500 mghz and only 256 mg ram04:50
sethkDon_jr, once the install is done, check whether dma is being used for your drive.  If it isn't, then the install will be slow04:50
profoX`mine 256MB ram too04:50
Don_jrand I just hit the install button, it gave me no options at all04:50
WarboCan I get some wireless help from someone knowledgable about these things please? I can't talk to my router wirelessly04:51
w30RamiKassab, donno of any thing like that for anything Microsoft Windows,  Mac,  or Linux so you know more than me which is no big deal ha!04:51
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profoX`Don_jr: thats not right. did you burn the cd yourself?04:51
sethkDon_jr, there are options with the alternate cd04:51
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VOYAGERvery slow if hd is on same channel as cd04:51
Don_jrsethk after install is done, it won't matter.04:51
EldaTook me longer to install Ubuntu because I was having a hard time trying to figure out how hard I had to make each partition xD04:51
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profoX`Elda: lol04:51
sethkDon_jr, sure it will, because you don't want the machine to run slowly forever04:51
Don_jrprofoX yes I DL'd the sio and burnt it myself.04:51
Eldaerr how large04:51
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profoX`Don_jr: burnt it on a low speed like 4x ?04:51
profoX`or 2x even :)04:51
Eldaoh my... that is perverted04:51
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xephergah.. can someone tell me how to open file explorer as root (so that i can move around my windows drive)04:51
Don_jrnope, on 1204:51
RamiKassabw30: lol ok that works... guess I'll have to keep looking around. Windows has got a few great ones but I need one for Linux for some of my work requirements04:51
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Elda;_;  long day of studying physiology is not good for the brain04:51
Sitouhprofox': It's an Actiontec PCMCIA card - that help?04:52
profoX`Don_jr: the cd is very sensitive -- when you burn a new one on low speeds it might work fine04:52
taychouri-aanyone know how to get songs off an ipod on to a linux04:52
T3KnOLouis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?04:52
janbananHow do I make the trash-bin appear on the desktop instead of the bottom-bar?04:52
Warbo!info gtkpod04:52
profoX`Don_jr: alot of people reported that they had to burn it on 4x to get it working04:52
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB04:52
tjcarterSitouh: yeah, insert it into your high capacity paper shredder.04:52
tjcarter;)04:52
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Don_jrthat's cool, I don't want to start this install all over....you think it would help if I did? burn a new one on 2X and start all over?04:52
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EldaDon_jr, it installs pretty fast imo04:52
Bertohow does ubuntu fit in one 700mb iso??   i'm used to 3 or 4 cds from mandriva....  is there way more downloading later?04:52
Warbojanbanan: Have a look in Applications>System Tools. Is there an entry @Configuration Editor@?04:53
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Sitouhtjcarter: That bad?04:53
EldaI was up and running in about 20 ish minutes04:53
wweaselHow do I prevent Sound Juicer from opening automatically when I insert an Audio CD?04:53
EldaMuch niftier than Winbloat04:53
tjcarterSitouh: you may be able to get it to work without much fuss, but Actiontec hardware isn't the best.04:53
Don_jrI'll burn a new one at a slower speed and reformat the HD and try again, see what happens04:53
profoX`Sitouh: actiontec seems to use atmel drivers..04:53
Warbowweasel: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media04:53
nich0sBerto, I have installed Ubuntu 5 times on different systems on a satellite connection and I really don't think that it is that bad.04:53
profoX`tjcarter: actiontec probably uses chipsets from other vendors like atmel04:53
mindjujui'm trying to install the kde interface on the server install of ubuntu but when i type sudo apt-get install kde, it says it can't find the package.  but when i search on packages.ubuntu.com it says the package exists -- any ideas?04:53
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louis__i am sorry,i receive nothing,you can ask you problem here04:53
birdfishAlright guys, time to log off and get some sleep.  I'll catch up with you all later!04:54
profoX`Sitouh: what did "lspci | grep Ethernet" give you?04:54
fooAny idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?04:54
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profoX`birdfish: bye04:54
louis__T3Kno04:54
Bertonich0s: i have a plenty fine connection, i'm just wondering if this 700mb cd is everything or does it download way more?04:54
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T3KnOLouis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?04:54
tjcarterprofoX`: Probably, yes.04:54
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louis__not yet04:54
tjcarterin fact, Atmel would be my #1 guess.04:54
erikaanyway... the ntsb sent me a letter... telling me one of their operatives had his laptop stolen. All of the data was pilots in florida. They are telling me to contact the credit people. I flew big jets for a major airline until I aquired the joy of MS last march. Should I worry about this latest identity theft scare?04:54
louis__what's ur problem?04:54
janbananWarbo: No04:54
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SitouhprofoX': So, I have Network Manager installed, as instructed in the help wiki. However, it won't give me WPA security as an option04:54
sethkmindjuju, I believe kde-desktop-environment04:55
xepheranyone can tell me how to browse the file system graphically as "root"?04:55
Warbojanbanan: OK, open up Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor and turn it on (Alacarte can take a while to load)04:55
T3KnOWell I would like to know how I could register an QQ account and use it?04:55
bruenigxepher, gksudo nautilus04:55
mindjujuthx sethk, i'll try that04:55
nich0sBerto, You and I both know that there is no possible way to fit everything that you want on to a single 700mb CD (unless you are a minimalist). There is enough on the 700mb CD to get you up and running, but there is an additional download of under 200mb. :P04:55
fiveironhey anyone play enemy territory?04:55
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T3KnOI have done some research about it, and it seems you need openQ?04:55
profoX`Sitouh: does the card work without WPA ?04:55
T3KnOor some kind04:55
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xepherbruenig: thanks04:55
der0bmindjuju: for the whole kubuntu desktop, install the kubuntu-desktop package04:55
distantbodyBerto: 700mb is all of it, plus +-200mb worth of updates04:55
louis__you can use lumaqq in ubuntu04:55
SitouhIt did before I installed Network Manager.04:55
Don_jrOkay, writing a new disk at 2X04:55
Berto900mb is still nothing, but cool nich0s and distantbody ... wasn't sure how lightweight it was04:55
mindjujuder0b, i tried that one too actually, but it says same thing, can't find package04:56
JbirkI have a VNC problem04:56
Jbirkplease help me04:56
JbirkMy VNc is borken04:56
T3KnOam I able to register via lunaqq?04:56
JbirkWhen I connect, I get an awful error04:56
wweaselI just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound works in other apps)04:56
Jbirkrandomly04:56
JbirkIt works great until I get kicked with either04:56
nich0sJbirk, What error?04:56
Warbowweasel: Try plugging your speakers into the CD drive...04:56
Jbirkrect too big or unknown message type04:56
xepherbruenig: works beautifully, thanks04:56
nich0sJbirk,  For that matter, what program?>04:56
JbirkVNC04:57
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janbananWarbo: and what do I do there?04:57
JbirkI have the server installed on the Ubuntu box04:57
w30Berto, yep but the Unbuntu cd group that you buy has lots of apps but the download cd is live and has just some of the apps that you will want and you have to get more off the net.04:57
louis__if you want to register an qq account,you can access http://www.tecent.com.cn04:57
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Warbojanbanan: Have you turned on System Tools>Configuration Editor?04:57
wweaselWarbo: Laptop. And, CD audio works in Sound Juicer04:57
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JbirkIt is setup with the xinetd internet superserver04:57
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janbananWarbo: yes04:57
nickv111Haha04:57
louis__T3KNO,can you access chinese website?04:57
nickv111I figured something out04:57
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JbirkBasically, It does everything I want04:57
nickv111I was using dapper-backports instead of dapper04:58
EldaCripes04:58
nich0snickv111, AWESOME!04:58
nickv111;)04:58
Jbirkthen it bombs out / crashes04:58
T3KnOyes I can...04:58
nickv111nich0s: ;)04:58
EldaCan someone help me with a bit of an installation/uninstallation question?04:58
louis__lumaqq is a qq client04:58
T3KnOlet me try for a sec..04:58
Warbojanbanan: OK, then open it up and go in apps>nautilus>desktop and there is an option like @trash_visible@, turn that on04:58
dalila!ps/204:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps/2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
nich0sElda, If it is eady :p04:58
T3KnOo i c04:58
Sitouhprofox': It did before I installed Network Manager :(04:58
EldaHopefully if someone does answer I will be able to see it this time xD04:58
nich0serr easy :p04:58
fiveironhey anyone play enemy territory?04:58
dalila!mouse04:58
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:58
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EldaWell its not easy for me but might be easy for you?04:58
Bertow30: whoa the download cd is "live" ??  haha to me, live means you run it off of the cd04:58
T3KnOi am not able to reach this http://www.tecent.com.cn04:58
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nich0selda, What's goin on?04:58
xepherone other question: can anyone help me installing my sony nw-e505 flash mp3 player under linux.... the dreaded sonicstage is acting up under wine04:58
T3KnOcurrently offline?04:58
brueniglets say I wanted to launch nautilus or totem with crontab. Do i need to add something in the crontab. As in should I add a PATH, I have never done this before not to clear on that short of thing. what about a SHELL, i notice other crontab had a SHELL entry should that be in my own crontab also04:59
louis__you can search "lumaqq" by google,and download it04:59
EldaI downloaded a new version of wireless network manager as it supports vpn support (what I need to get on the internet at school) but I am curious would I have to delete the old version first?  AND04:59
louis__i can register one qq number for u04:59
Warbobruenig: You may need DISPLAY set04:59
EldaSince I didnt dl it useing ap-get install how would I install it? >.<04:59
sethkElda, ordinarily no04:59
w30Berto, right boot it up on a bare box and install from an install icon on the Desktop, cool eh?04:59
bruenigDISPLAY, and what might that look like04:59
T3KnOok i'll download one now..04:59
janbananWarbo: Thanks mate04:59
EldaIve unpacked it onto a directory on my desktop already04:59
Warbo"DISPLAY=localhost:0" maybe05:00
distantbodyElda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros05:00
EldaAnd ./install doesnt seem to work for me >.<05:00
bruenigok I will mess around with that05:00
Bertow30: haha yeah exactly.  live cd to me means like knoppix05:00
Warbo!compile05:00
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:00
louis__then you can log with your account by using lumaqq05:00
sethkbruenig, you can always run a program with it's full path name and not worry about PATH.  PATH is set to a reasonable value by the default bash configuration files05:00
T3KnOdo I need a specific version to have it work?05:00
wweaselI just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound, including CD Audio, works in other apps)05:00
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haasteem!repositories05:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:00
WarboBerto: I am in the live CD right now...05:00
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nich0selda, Did you see the !compile output?05:00
nich0s!compile05:00
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:00
bruenigyeah I know that. but I was trying to get totem to open a file, I tried full path to totem followed by full path to file but that didn't work05:00
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PMantisFATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format05:00
PMantisIs vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?05:01
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bruenigbut that might be because of no DISPLAY05:01
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louis__lumaqq2005 is ok,if you use lumaqq2006,it may not stable05:01
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WarboPMantis: Make sure you have the right vmware-modules (I think) package for your kernel05:01
Don_jrwhat is the kernel?  I"ve seen that used alot.05:01
Bertow30: one last thing - i already have /home with tons of stuff and obviously do NOT want to lose that.  Is the installer nice and friendly about making sure it doesn't get formatted?05:01
nich0sElda, That may help you with the install file. Were you just not able to find anything in the package manager?05:01
Warbo!kernel05:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:01
w30Berto, well The Ubuntu cd is live, it is a memory checker, and it has the install media (basic) on it so you can got to preconfigure repositories to get all kinds of neat stuff.05:01
T3KnOhehe...just downloading lumaqq _2006 M2 Linux..05:01
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T3KnOi'll try to look for lumaqq200505:02
louis__that's ok05:02
louis__lumaqq2006 is just ok05:02
Bertow30: that's a really great idea to have the installer like that.  as long as i don't lose /home :)05:02
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nich0sThere are only 828 people in here.. that is sad. :P05:02
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Don_jrthat's enough for me05:02
PMantisWarbo, There is no "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26-686" package05:02
w30Berto, also it can boot your installation if a Windows reinstall wipes out bootloader05:02
distantbodyDon_jr: Your hardware talks to the kernel, and your kernel talks to your software.05:02
nich0sI think microsoft should build a similar IRC room :P05:02
louis__T3Kno,where are u?why you can not access chinese website?05:02
T3KnOabout 12.4 mb...or so...05:03
Don_jrso it's the backbone of unix then?05:03
eternalswdRamiKassab, I don't know about a linux screengrab program, but there's a firefox extension you might want to look into at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1146/05:03
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nich0sDon_jr, It's the like the registry in windows :p05:03
nich0sDon_jr,  The engine in a car.05:03
Bertow30: not a probelm here... i've been linux 100% for 6 years.  i'm just a laggard when it comes to trying new distro05:03
T3KnOi don't know why i can not reach that page....i am currently in Shenzhen, China05:03
VOYAGERBerto, i rename a copy of home and save it just in case05:03
piratepenguinUbuntu's been in a bad state for me recently... (not related to the X update afaik).. does anyone else get a green border around a non-maximized gnome-terminal? (I'm using xorg-air btw)05:03
Don_jrand while i"m thinking of it.  Is there a difference between unix and linux or can they truly be used interchangably?05:03
nich0sDon_jr,  The SOMETHING MASSIVE to it's DEPENDENCY :P05:03
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louis__you try www.qq.com05:03
louis__i'm in shenzhen too05:04
WarboPMantis: There's your problem then (don't ask me how to fix it though :) )05:04
linux__alienI ve a weird problem with Ubuntu . I use PPPOE to connect to the internet and it gets connected also but when i leave the connection idle for some time i am unable to browse using Firefox but IRC Chat works and gaim works could some one help me05:04
T3KnOreally?05:04
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BertoVOYAGER: what do you mean?  my /home/  is bigger than the rest of my space, so i can't copy it or back it up05:04
louis__sure05:04
T3KnOI live near DI WANG Building05:04
PMantisWarbo, Heh, well my problem must be a distro problem05:04
louis__i am a chinese05:04
VOYAGERrofl05:04
BertoVOYAGER: i'm just asking if there's an option to keep existing partitions?05:04
louis__i working near SAI GE mansion05:05
BertoVOYAGER: and NOT format certain ones..05:05
nalioth!offtopic05:05
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:05
w30nich0s, in the old days Microsoft had a following like Linux does now with clubs and every thing that Gates didn't like ,like sharing software (on floppydisks).05:05
linux__alienis this a bug in ubuntu ?05:05
T3KnOi am also chinese but from the Netherland05:05
T3KnOs05:05
TheRealCfreaklinux__alien: sounds like a DNS problem ... do you have another OS to test it on?05:05
VOYAGERwas a advanced mode in beta testing but not sure now05:05
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louis__are you a boy or a girl?05:05
T3KnOboy05:05
nich0sw30, Did you used to have to walk to school, 30 miles, in the snow, both ways? :P05:05
T3KnOyou?05:05
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louis__boy05:05
T3KnOi c05:05
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Jbirkany idea for fixing my VNC?05:06
nich0sw30, sorry. I know :P05:06
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Cheza_meh05:06
louis__Netherland?05:06
sethkonly 30 miles?05:06
naliothlouis__: T3KnO : go to #ubuntu-offtopic please05:06
T3KnOyou ever go to club called ben si?05:06
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louis__soory05:06
nich0sw30, I couldn't help it... Now Microsoft has a following, the majority of them have pitchforks :p05:06
Ignacioalguien habla espaol ?05:06
louis__sorry05:06
nalioth!es05:06
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w30nich0s, I think that era died about the time of Windows95 and the get away from command line DOS05:06
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:06
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EldaI missed everything that was just said after my question -_-05:06
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distantbodyElda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros05:07
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EldaBut what Id last said is that Synaptics Packaged Manager has .6.2 rather than .6.405:07
bruenigapt-get is so much easier05:07
w30nich0s, no. but it was uphill both ways :=)05:07
T3KnOlouis__ ---> /join #ubuntu-offtopic05:07
EldaPackage Manager05:07
WarboApplications>Add/Remove is for n00bs, Synaptic is for pros05:07
profoX`Warbo: well -- universe and multiverse are alot bigger iirc05:07
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louis__nalioth , i help him to slove the qq porblem ,hehe ,do not drive out us05:07
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bruenigadd/remove is frustrating all I have had it to is tell me it can't do what I want it to do unless I do it in synaptic05:07
nickv111I always use apt-get; I'll never get used to all this GUI stuff05:07
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nich0sw30, damn, can't believe I messed that opportunity up. :P05:08
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naliothlouis__: T3KnO: this is a support channel, you can find out each others night club preferences in #ubuntu-offtopic05:08
nickv111The problem with (K)ubuntu is this: it's too easy, and too intuitive. I'm used to always making the problem harder than it is05:08
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nich0sI'm 18, I was raised on a Gui :P05:08
eternalswdlouis_, just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat05:08
profoX`nickv111: me too - although synaptic has a nice category search thingy05:08
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louis__mistake05:08
WarboprofoX`: I just haven't run Synaptic without enabling Universe before. I only did it just now because I forgot to set a DNS server so apt couldn't load the Universe package list05:08
Don_jrthe more I read this stuff, the more I learn I don't know anything about linux.....05:08
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shrayhi05:08
nich0sHOWDY!05:09
T3KnOo i am sorry if i mentioned that...i won't do that again...05:09
naliothlouis__: T3KnO is waiting to continue your nightlife chat in #ubuntu-offtopic05:09
shraycan you run xgl on edgy eft?05:09
ddnaI am getting cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57 when I play mms:// video stream, I have latest  w32codec already installed help ubuntu amd 6405:09
dr_willisDon_jr,  the more you learn, the more you learn.. that you have more to learn05:09
cvpIf someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.05:09
Don_jrlol that is true05:09
profoX`louis__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic ;)05:09
louis__ok,05:09
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w30nich0s, but I haven't used Windows since it wiped my lilo boot loader and made re reinstall Linux. I re-installed Linux whole disk and never looked back since RedHat 4.605:09
tolesheiIs there really any advantage to updating the kernel from 386 to k7 (in my case)05:09
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nich0sw30, I think redhat 4.6 is before my time :P05:10
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EldaBleh!05:10
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Don_jrI've never used a *nix based system in my life.  I'm installing ubuntu for the first time today!05:10
EldaSynaptics only has version .6.4.205:10
Eldaerr .6.205:10
EldaI need .6.405:10
distantbodyElda: did you refresh it?05:10
eternalswdddna, try it in vlc05:10
EldaYes05:10
w30nich0s, at least it ain't linux1.1 or whatever Linus called it.05:11
nich0sw30, I am working on weaning myself away from the microsoft, but I know it sooo well.. I can dance circles around everything in windows :P05:11
profoX`toleshei: it will run slightly faster..05:11
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EldaI have it sitting in a directory, I just am not sure how to manually install it05:11
SitouhAnyone with experience getting WPA to work with wireless cards?05:11
testttis it possible to hook up my Linksys WMP54GS and get it to work? i mean is there drivers for it?05:11
EldaIt has an install file and the like in there05:11
EldaIve tried ./install05:11
rpedroElda: what program ?05:11
bruenigmy crontab entry right now is * * * * * /usr/bin/nautilus, my thought is that it will launch nautilus every minute. But it doesn't do so. any thoughts05:11
Don_jrit's a fat32 system I'm installing into, I know it will reformat it to what it needs, but would the install go faster if it was ext3 already?05:11
omooreI've been a centos user for some time now as my primary os. I'm looking for a bit more modern distro tho and like ubuntu..05:11
tolesheithanks05:11
profoX`toleshei: and support multiple processors and more RAM (+4GB or something like that?)05:11
omoorei use vmware alot tho.. for client work, etc...05:11
WarboWhere does network-manager-gnome go? (as in Applications, System>Admin, etc.) I've heard it is quite good at doing wireless, so maybe it'll help me, but I can't find out how to open it05:11
distantbodyElda: "sudo ./..."05:11
EldaThis http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/05:11
EldaIve tried sudo05:11
nich0sDon_jr, It will want to auto partition the drive anyways... it will not really make a difference esp if this is your first install.05:12
Don_jrok05:12
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janbananI've made a new panel at the bottom of the desktop. Is it possible to make it appear in the background so for example firefox is displayed over it?05:12
omoorehow is ubuntu with vmware where ubuntu is the host? has anyone here doing this for a long time?05:12
tolesheiwell since i'm just running an athlon 2000+ with a gig of ram, is it worth it?05:12
Don_jrtotally reformatted and empty HD I'm installing into05:12
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EldaWant to get .6.4 working because it has vpn support which is what I need to use at school to get online05:12
omoore(not as guest, as the host for vmware workstation)05:12
distantbodyElda: is the terminal in the correct directory05:12
eternalswdtesttt, possibly.  the best place to check would be www.ubuntuforums.org just search for your wireless device and you might run into a howto05:12
EldaYes I do cd... type in the name of it and hit tab so it auto complete05:12
Eldas05:12
distantbodyElda: an what does it say?05:13
EldaIve tried ./INSTALL ./install makefile or whatever its called05:13
EldaNadda05:13
qatsigood night all !, im haivng troubble with my xorg.conf and i need to rebuild it. I know there is a command to do so, but i dont remember it, can anyone please tell me what command is that ?05:13
Eldalet me try again05:13
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TheRealCfreakElda it sounds like you're trying to compile software05:13
Eldaewww05:13
TheRealCfreakyou need the development tools in order to do that05:13
nich0sw30, How did you get away from gates-ville and get yourself to adapt to linux. what did you read, where did you go?05:13
nich0s!compile :P05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
EldaEven if it has an install file already therE?05:13
profoX`Elda: do you have a "no screens found" error?05:13
Eldanope05:13
eternalswdElda, what are you trying to compile?05:14
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qatsino one knows the command to re-build xorg.conf ?05:14
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cvpIf someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.05:14
tnzrElda: is the install file called "INSTALL" ?  if so its a text file with instructions.05:14
profoX`Elda: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
profoX`Elda: that will rebuild the xorg.conf file05:14
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rpedroElda: try typing gedit INSTALL05:14
sethkcvp, better to ask here, let everyone help05:14
distantbodyqatsi: i; get it in two secs...05:14
nich0sprofoX`, that is for qatsi I thinks05:14
qatsithanks :D05:14
cvpsethk: my problem involves a lot of gibberish that my computer spit at me... it would take up a good portion of the page05:14
Warboqatsi: apt-get source xserver-xorg maybe?05:14
nich0ssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:15
profoX`nich0s: oops05:15
EldaEwww looking at the install file its a compile thing05:15
nich0sprofoX`, hehe :P05:15
eternalswdcvp, post it in the pastebin05:15
cvpsethk: and the last thing I want to do is annoy everybody here05:15
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profoX`qatsi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:15
=== Elda has 0 Idea how to compile a thing >.>
nich0scvp, I am annoying everyone here :P05:15
EldaI think Ill just leave that alone for now05:15
TheRealCfreakElda: most source tar files come with an installation file that compiles it for you. But you have to have the compilier and make and all the dev tools ... What are you trying to install?05:15
Warbo!compile > Elda05:15
distantbodyqatsi: here is the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:15
Eldahttp://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/  Trying to install this05:15
jman8888Ummm....What do i do if i forget my USERNAME! (I set my sister up a pc and gave her her own username but forgot it...)05:15
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nich0sOoer, while we are on the subject, where can I get the dev tools for compiling?05:16
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EldaI wish to use .6.405:16
tnzrElda: isnt there a .deb for that?05:16
Bertoso i never got a confident answer to this:  i have mandriva 2006 and want to format /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda6 with / and /usr -- however, i do NOT want the installer to format /dev/hda7 which is my /home.  Is this going to be OK?05:16
Warbojman8888: I would boot into recovery mode, add a new user and add them to admin group05:16
IcemanV9network manager has a long way to go; it works, but not perfect :/05:16
Eldaerrr let me see if its int he directory05:16
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kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:16
SitouhMy wireless card works when I'm not trying to use WPA (or Network Manager), but Network Manager isn't giving me WPA as an option05:16
Berto(oh and i didn't mention above that i'd be installing ubuntu, of course)05:16
EldaIt works fine for me but I need VPN support so I can get on at school05:16
jman8888Warbo, How...05:16
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foo Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?05:17
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tnzrBerto you can do it.. not sure how in ubuntu but I bet involves selecting "Manually partition hard drives.." or whatever instead of the auto mode05:17
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dr_willisfoo perhaps ya got no speaker? :P05:17
Warbojman8888: adduser will add a user, but I forget how to add someone to a group05:17
Bertotnzr: yeah i saw some screenshots on that from one guide about windows05:17
cvpI can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.05:17
VOYAGERfoo turn on the system sounds05:17
tnzrBerto: you may even be able to make it ignore that partition in Auto mode, then later you can just mount that partition on /home and you are all set05:17
TheRealCfreakElda: I think you want, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome05:18
Bertotnzr: a wise idea.  just say no touch05:18
tnzrBerto: its easy on the command line, but I couldnt tell you how with automated gui junk like installers05:18
Warbotnzr: Even easier, just set it to mount as /home and tell it not to format05:18
EldaOkey so how would I know what I need to !compile ?05:18
EldaKk05:18
foodr_willis: I do. This worked fine on debian.05:18
fooVOYAGER: How?05:18
TheRealCfreakYou shouldn't have to compile05:18
tnzrBerto: what Warbo said (though I am absolved of all responsibility from here on in :)05:18
TheRealCfreakif you really want to compile ... um hard to explain, you need a bunch of packages even to get started05:18
IcemanV9Elda: you don't need to know to compile; apt-get will take care of it. :)05:19
BertoWarbo: awesome, thanks.  that's what I was wondering -- if there's a NO FORMAT option.  i'd flip out if it formatted my stuff05:19
nich0sI think he is saying that you don't want to even start with it :p05:19
EldaErrr apt-get only gives me version .6.205:19
nich0sor she05:19
nich0ssorry05:19
eternalswdElda, I think you need to do sudo make install05:19
EldaReading package lists... Done05:19
EldaBuilding dependency tree... Done05:19
Eldanetwork-manager-gnome is already the newest version.05:19
Elda0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:19
sethkBerto, it's better to take the mode where you get a veto05:19
Eldakk05:19
jman8888Warbo, I just found on Ubuntu forums to do revovery mode them cd /home then type ls... Seems so obvious.05:19
TheRealCfreakahhh05:19
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Bertosethk: hhaah what?   manual mode you mean?05:20
WarboBerto: There is a page on the installer just after the manual partition editor (I assume you are going to do it manually) which lets you set each partition's mount point and whether it should be formatted. (I have only done it with manual, it may be available on automatic I don't know)05:20
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jman8888Also why dont i see 2000(On a seperate hd on the grub menu)05:20
w30nich0s, I saw an interview on a tv show called techtv or somethin like that. It was the two guys that founded RedHat. I said tomyself 'Self, that is for me."05:20
Eldaeternalswd, that doesnt work -_-05:20
TheRealCfreakElda: just doing make install won't work.05:20
Warbojman8888: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think of that :)05:20
dasGewitte1Where can I get the package growisofs?05:20
cruddpuppetcan some one help me install divx05:20
SitouhAnybody know why Network Manager won't give me WPA security?05:21
distantbodyjman8888: there *should* be a dropdown box at the top right05:21
EldaHow do I determine which file I have to "make" ?05:21
TheRealCfreakElda: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?05:21
cvpI can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.05:21
Eldalet me go and look05:21
eternalswdElda, see if you have make -> sudo apt-get install make05:21
BertoWarbo: perfect, i'm confident now.  i can figure out the rest.05:21
Bertotyahks!!05:21
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cruddpuppethello05:21
qatsisorry to bother you again, but months ago i used a command just like the one you gave me: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the other one configured X by itself, this one is asking me things, and i just want to auto detect the settings...do you know what im i talking about :P?05:21
WarboElda: "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall -D"05:21
IcemanV9ya, i just noticed that network-manager version is 6.2 on Ubuntu, but there is 6.4 out there. :/05:21
nich0sw30, What about it made you want to switch to it?  I mean, from what I can tell so far is that I am just awkward in this environment.05:21
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cruddpuppetCAn some one here help me install divx?05:21
rpedro!wpa >> Sitouh05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wpa > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
w30nich0s, I don't imagine they have that kid of time nowadays.05:21
distantbodyqatsi: i'll private message05:22
EldaI have make now >.>05:22
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jordanaurpedro, search for wpa in the ubuntu wiki05:22
qatsidistantbody: ok05:22
eternalswdcvp, sounds like your hard drive is going bad, do you have another computer that you can load it in as a slave?05:22
SitouhI went through all the steps the wiki said, and it's still not working05:22
jman8888distantbody, ? I installed using a random username(Im used to my Login screen i got from gnome-look that shows all my users avalible.05:22
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fiendskull9hello05:22
EldaOkey updating packages05:22
rpedroSitouh: for you ^^05:22
EldaMy head is going to explode!05:22
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heyuhey.. can anyone give a hand? my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"05:22
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fiendskull9im having trouble removing the xfonts-artwiz package05:23
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cvpeternalswd: no can do, I have one laptop and one desktop, and I can't stick my notebook hard drive into my desktop...05:23
Don_jrman burning at 2X is slow....I really hope it installs faster for waiting this long...lol05:23
WarboCan I please get some help with Wifi? I have asked a lot and got no response. My help ratio is extraordinarily one-sided in this community....05:23
EldaIs there anything more basic I should learn how to do before I mess with all this?05:23
Sitouhrpedro: I went through everything I could find there in the help.05:23
cruddpuppetCan some one help me out here? I have an .avi file and I don't know how to install divx05:23
dasGewitte1Warbo: what's the problem?05:23
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fiendskull9Don_jr: you have a 2x dvd drive?05:23
jordanauwarbo whats up05:23
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dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: use mplayer to play the .avi file05:24
cruddpuppetmplayer?05:24
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haiyaihi05:24
w30nich0s, the best thing to do is buy some books, but around my neck of the woods no one uses Linux so I have to get my books by ordering on line. Buy something that fits your distro or changeyour distro to match the book. Switch distros later05:24
IcemanV9Don_jr: it'll install much faster than 2X :)05:24
Don_jrI don't have a dvd drive at all on the PC I"m burning with, it's a simple cdrw05:24
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nich0selda, psst... I am a gui-junkie don't give in, but learn it just in case :P05:24
dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: yes, it's an alternate media player, it has the proper codecs for an .avi file05:24
fiendskull9Don_jr: and its 2x?05:24
Don_jrI'm burning the ISO at 2x cause I was told that my last burn at 12x may make the install slower..05:24
WarboMy router doesn't give me an IP via DHCP wirelessly (it does wired), and even if I set a static IP in the right range it refuses to talk05:24
cruddpuppetthank you05:24
haiyaianyone no about azureus05:24
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bruenighaiyai, what is your question05:24
fiendskull9Don_jr: ahhh05:24
EldaI want to learn the command line as it seems you need both in here >.>05:24
tehsuHow can I monitor cpu temp?05:24
rpedroSitouh: one sec, strange that ubotu didn't have the link..05:24
dasGewitte1cruddpuppet: sudo apt-get install mplayer05:24
Don_jrI clicked install and all it did was spin my CD for an hour and a half and nothing ever came up05:24
haiyainat problem05:24
Don_jrso I'm burning at a slower rate now so maybe it'll install faster05:25
nich0sw30, What is your favorite distro? How would I know what distro is right for me?05:25
EldaPlus I like using the dos command line in conjuction with winblows so I think this will make things easier05:25
Eldawell now its just cmd but still05:25
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bruenigelda, command line is a nice tool to use helps in a lot of situations05:25
EldaI am guessing as much05:25
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Don_jrIT's going to take me forever to get dos out of my head and lrean the proper commands in a linux console05:25
rpedroSitouh: read the howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo05:25
haiyainat problem no speed up and down05:25
tehsuanyone05:25
bruenigI never used DOS so I never had that problem05:25
nich0sDon_jr, Man pages are your friends :P05:25
eternalswdcvp that's exactly why I don't have a laptop, though you probably need it for travelling purposes.  you might want to see if you can boot Live and mount the hard drives in there05:25
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Don_jrman pages?05:26
haiyaiwindows box works fine not router05:26
=== bruenig hates people who hate people who refer to MSDOS as DOS
EldaWell dos is a little bit from this from what Ive seen05:26
tehsuWhats a desktop cpu monitor program for linux05:26
qatsidistantbody: are you there ?05:26
EldaAt least cd, and dir are the same xD05:26
tehsugdesktels?05:26
bruenigls instead of dir05:26
Eldadir works too05:26
bruenigor does dir work too05:26
Don_jrmsdos, dos, what ever....it's all dos and most people understand that! lol05:26
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distantbodyqatsi: message send05:26
nich0sDon_jr, In nix, if you don't know what a command does, but you know the command you can type "man etc" and it will tell you everything that you would ever possibly want to know about that command and more.05:26
Eldacp is copy in here right?05:26
bruenigbut ls has colors. only because it is aliased to do so in .bashrc I think so05:27
bruenigthough*05:27
nich0skinda like help, but WAAAY cooler :p05:27
cvpeternalswd: What would success/failure indicate? Would backing up my data and reformatting/installing help, or does this mean that my hard-drive is permanently dead.05:27
WarboDon_jr: I grew up with AmigaDOS, so damn you all :)05:27
distantbodyqatsi: message *sent*05:27
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Eldaokey so its man and the command?05:27
EldaI kept trying to do man --command here05:27
nich0ssi05:27
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nich0s:P05:27
Don_jrhehehe I first started learning to program on basicA05:27
qatsidistantbody: i dont see anything :05:27
IcemanV9tehsu: OR system > admin > system monitor05:27
nich0sman rmdir05:27
lophyteElda: the best way for help is either man <command>, or the --help parameter to the command05:27
dr_willisman man05:27
dr_willis:)05:27
gidimOkay, I need some professional help.05:27
EldaSad, I try to learn linux on my own and I still have to ask a man for help >.>05:27
eternalswdcvp, well if you can mount the drive in Live, you might be able to network your files somewhere and reformat05:27
nich0sman women05:27
Don_jrhaha Elda05:28
Eldabad pun, but yeah >.>05:28
lophyteElda: LOL ;)05:28
nich0sThat is a long standing joke :p05:28
omooreheh.. the funny thing about man.. is it man handles info.. the program nearly everything in man says replaces man.. but how many people actually use info i wonder05:28
distantbodyqatsi: this command will give you the default settings for xorg.comf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"05:28
Don_jrI'm sorry, that has to suck at times05:28
jman8888What am i missing out on in 5.04 (compared to newer) because its working on my old pc(Previously running 2000 came with 98) and i like the fact that in the cd case it says i need at least 32mb ram to run (i have more than enough for that. Although my linux drive is only 4gigs...05:28
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Don_jrbut, remember it stands for Manual, as in do it yourself...05:28
Eldaso is it info or man?05:28
lophyteman05:28
gidimlol05:28
dr_willisinfo info05:28
dr_willis:P05:28
qatsidistantbody: ok, ill try that :) thanks :)05:29
dr_willisinfo is a different set of docs..05:29
lophyteman info? :P05:29
omooreman.. that's what most everyone onthe planet who uses unix uses instead of info05:29
WarboElda: Info is only really used by GNU utilities. Everything else uses man05:29
nich0sman = manual = rtfm = READ THE F*&@ING MANUAL :P05:29
EldaJust did that xD05:29
omoorelol05:29
w30nich0s, I went from Slackware, which was simpler and more in line with command line Linux in the books that I had but it was not really modern. I then switched to RedHat through RedHat 9 and then went to Fedora. Fedora is not to stable because the switch versions too early in my opinion and they make a lot of broken updates. So I switched to Ubuntu about a week before they broke xorg. Ha05:29
fiendskull9im having problems uninstalling the xfonts-artwiz package. it errors out saying the --remove flag isnt reconized05:29
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omooreinfo was supose to be a replacement for man i guess. but doesn't seem to ever have caught on05:29
EldaBah I am tired of the RTFM people.... I DID rtfm and freaking bought a book to try learning it once a long time ago.  IT DIDNT HELP >.>05:29
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:29
lmosherHow does one mount and/or burn a .bin .cue file?05:29
lophytefiendskull9: what are you typing to remove it?05:29
Warbo!info bchunk05:29
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB05:29
EldaThen I tried asking on an irc network for help after RTFM and then they told me to RTFM -_-05:30
nich0sw30, lol, I am looking for a decent distro that I would be able to put on to a laptop.05:30
fiendskull9lophyte: sudo apt-get remove xfonts-artwiz05:30
fiendskull9of course05:30
omoorelmosher, to run a .bin, just set it as executable then run it...05:30
distantbodyCan someone please PRivately help kitsuneofdoom?...05:30
EldaThen I stopped even bothering with linux for about 3 years until I found Ubuntu xD05:30
lmosheromoore, :) .bin .cue05:30
eternalswdtehsu, you should be able to add to a panel System Monitor05:30
Warbolmosher: Use bchunk to convert it to iso05:30
lophytefiendskull9: huh, that's strange05:30
cvpeternalswd: I'm not concerned about backing up my data... I have a dual-boot machine, and I can pull stuff (slowly but surely) from my ext3 partition. I'm more concerned about not having to reformat...05:30
omoorelmosher, chmod +x *.bin ... then .. ./whatever.bin05:30
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dr_willisElda,  its amazing the # of linux help/guides/tutoral sites :)05:30
qatsithank you distantbody, now it works :D05:30
lmosheromoore, lol dude. it's a CD-ROM format05:30
omoorelmosher, i have no .cue  tho05:30
Warboomoore: .bin .cue is a CD image (like .iso)05:30
lophytefiendskull9: can you paste the output to a pastebin?05:30
qatsigood night, and good luck :) (to everyone)05:30
EldaThen I tried breezy badger, couldnt get wireless to work, gave up and tried it again and I got wireless to work and here I am xD05:30
tuvhow can i see the boot messages on boot? i.e. escape the boot splash05:30
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fiendskull9!pastebin05:31
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lmosherWarbo, tks :)05:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:31
distantbodyqatsi: Good to hear05:31
EldaI tried those sites but was still evilly confused05:31
kitsuneofdoomdistantbody: sorry, was I posting too much?05:31
omooreomoore, lmosher , fine! :) i just see alot of software that is .bin that is *not* an image05:31
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EldaAt that time Id been trying to set up the drivers for a ti-4600 so I could use open gl05:31
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Warbotuv: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8 (that is where they are after bootup at least)05:31
eternalswdcvp, I don't have the technical expertise to help you beyond what I've suggested05:31
distantbodykitsuneofdoom: NO, I would just like someone to help you:)05:31
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EldaNo help for that and google didnt even help05:31
fiendskull9lophyte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2152505:31
cvpeternalswd: Thanks!05:31
kitsuneofdoomdistantbody: thanks05:31
relachsHey, i am setting up my HDD for ubuntu, will this work? http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8800/partitionsny7.gif05:32
Eldaheck I even narrowed it down to the cause of needing new drivers by myself >.<05:32
Warboomoore: That is why I hate the culture of filename extensions. @.bin@ describes EVERYTHING on a computer, because it's all binary!05:32
Corporal_DirgeGoogle is really bad at helping with technical issues. There's too much junk info on the web.05:32
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w30Ubuntu seems to be a good compromise between ease of use and available applications on repositories that take care of your dependicy requirements.05:32
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rdzhi all. does somebody has installed oss2jack on dapper? i'd like to know how.....05:32
janbananIf I wan't to install a theme on dapper... should it be GTK 2 or what? it says wrong file-format when I try to install05:32
omooretuv. you can see what the boot messages were using the dmesg command05:33
Don_jrwhat are repositories?05:33
bruenigrelachs, looks good. I like a seperate home and / partition but that works05:33
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bruenig!repos05:33
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:33
eternalswdcvp, you might want to check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32328 once the forums stop timing out05:33
gidimUm, well, I had 64-bit working just fine, then I went and reformatted to install 32-bit so I could run Opera native instead of under WINE, but the install didn't take... it just kind of hung there, so I reboot, drive not recognized, reboot and it is so I wipe the drive clean and try another install... the disc has no errors, it's fine, but for some reason it just doesn't install the OS, so now I have an hda1 that won't take an OS, and I'm05:33
w30nich0s, dependencies05:33
gidimI really need to learn to leave well enough alone.05:33
relachsbruenig ah its you, can i still access D: when i boot windows?05:33
jman8888Is there a hosts.ect for Ubuntu. There is some websites i need to block.05:33
Warbojanbanan: GTK2 is GNOME's toolkit, so if you use GNOME (Ubuntu) then just drag the .tar.gz file into system>preferences>themes, or extract it in $HOME/.themes05:33
cvpeternalswd: Will do. Thanks much.05:33
heyumy ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"05:33
bruenigrelachs, I don't see why not05:33
cvpOn the issue of GNOME vs KDE, which do you guys suggest? I have a friend who is a KDE developer, and he keeps telling me to switch to KDE, but he IS a biased source...05:33
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tuvomoore, i'm having boot problems and would like to see what is causing the problem while booting. i think i got it. booting off sata is broken in recent kernels. i have to use 2.6.15-2305:34
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ElementalDragonhi05:34
dr_williscvp,  i mixx and match the 2. it dont matter to me at all.05:34
AcidfkHi05:34
bruenigwell linus likes KDE so I have to defer to him05:34
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Warbocvp: He is biased toward KDE, and I am biased toward GNOME. It is a preference05:34
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IcemanV9relachs: looks fine, but did you know that install CD can resize winxp partition w/o problem and then create a free space for Ubuntu automaticially. it worked nicely on my box.05:34
prophetcan someone help me with VALKNUT05:34
dr_williscvp,  go old-skool and code in pure xlib goodness! :P05:34
darksoul_how would i get 32bit programs running on a 64bit os? and is opera 64bit out?05:34
gidimI like GNOME, it's nice, I haven't tried KDE yet but the screens just scream Windows to me.05:34
relachsbruenig because ubuntu, swap and d are surrounded by a light blue frame ^_^05:34
WarboI personally use E16 inside GNOME05:35
relachswondering if that seperates it from c:\05:35
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omoorei would like to use ubuntu as my host os.. for work reasons, i must have an environment which will run vmware workstation reliably.. anyone here been running vmware workstation on ubuntu for a long time?05:35
eternalswdcvp, I like gnome since most of my program preferences are gtk based.  I'm sure if they were qt, I would prefer kde05:35
dr_willisgidim,  kde makes windows look like trash. :P05:35
Mixx`dr_willis =)05:35
lophytefiendskull9: looks like the package is broken.. one sec05:35
fiendskull9lophyte: alright05:35
janbananWarbo: well thats exactly what I'm doing. but I get that message all the time05:35
nich0sHow would one go about seeing what KDE would look like?05:35
bruenigrelachs, windows should be able to read extended partitions. To be sure check in ##windows05:35
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omoore(i tried fedora once, but fell back to centos because of updates occasionally breaking vmware beyond what vmware-conf.pl would fix)05:35
distantbodyomoore: long time:no, reliably: yes05:35
fiendskull9nich0s: google05:35
gidimIcemanV9: Can it really? My D or hdb1 is a 300GB storage drive that I'm afraid to resize for fear of losing data.05:35
darksoul_any 64bit users here?05:35
fiendskull9nich0s: lynucs.org has alot of screenshots05:35
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ElementalDragonI'm having a problem booting to the Live CD for Ubuntu 6.06.1 x86 AND x64...... is there a way to install it without booting Live?05:35
gidimdarksoul_: Sort of.05:36
bruenigdarksoul__, chroot or nothing05:36
dr_willisnich0s,  just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and run it instead of gnome when you login. :P05:36
Don_jrSo certain programs will only run in one or the other, KDE or GNOME?05:36
BSG75can someone pls tell me how to turn off my eth0 device?05:36
gidimAMD64, but I have no OS at the moment. ^^;;05:36
tehsueternalswd, nope no where in there05:36
Warbonich0s: kde-look.org ? (maybe without the hyphen, I forget)05:36
dr_willisDon_jr, you can mix and match.05:36
omooredistantbody, have you *ever* had an update break it (as in vmware-config.pl not able to reconfigure for a new kernel)?05:36
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IcemanV9gidim: never try on that large size. the biggest is 100Gb. it works fine.05:36
jman8888I love Ubuntu. It has great internet support. I have it connected to a Usb connected to my modem. And its acctually up on the pc i have for my sister.05:36
darksoul_Can anyone tell me how to get 32bit apps working on 64bit?05:36
dr_willisDon_jr,  may have a few little oddities here and there.. but not many these days05:36
bruenigdarksoul_ chroot05:36
Don_jrthanx05:36
nich0sThanks all fot the answers :P05:36
Warbojman8888: What kind of modem? (I am interested in this sort of thing)05:36
bruenigI am sure there are some tutorials in the forums on how to use chroot05:36
_priestjman8888: not sure why you think its ubuntu itself that has this support05:36
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_priestbut ok05:36
gigais there such thing as an ethernet splitter or kvm switch?05:37
Don_jrI need to know if I have to watch for that.  eings i"m new I don't want to install a program I can't use cause I"m on the wrong desktop...lol05:37
darksoul_chroot?05:37
nich0sand thank you fiendskull9 for reminding why I hate working in association with Earthlinkk :P05:37
gidimdarksoul_: I tried. A lot. I read the how-to's, I just couldn't get them working. I worked for awhile on Opera.05:37
propheti cant connet to a room in valknut cans omeone hlep05:37
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fiendskull9nich0s: what? do you mean not wanting to download kubuntu-desktop and not like it?05:37
gidimSo, now I have a 32-bit and a 64-bit CD to choose from when I want to load a Live CD.05:37
lophytefiendskull9: I'm not exactly sure how to fix that.. have you tried browsing the forums?05:37
cvpprophet: in general, stay away from Vulcans. They're bad news.05:37
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jman8888Surfboard Modem(Motorola) And it works great whitch is amazing because it was hard to get working in 2000, It took me forever.05:37
eternalswdrelachs, your ubuntu partition is a bit small, but I guess it depends on how many programs and how much updating/compiling you plan to do05:37
PulshionHow to set contrast and brightness in ubuntu?05:37
bruenigrelachs, if need be. you should be able to move D: out of the extended partition. As you can have another primary partition05:37
gidimMy hda won't take install for some reason.05:37
darksoul_gidim, right now im looking to see if they have a 64bit opera out.. it not im going to get it working somehow.05:37
jman8888And i had to download so many drivers...05:37
matthew_wHey uh... I'm trying to VNC to a Windows box, ... possible?05:37
distantbody omoore: no. Do you have the correct linux headers, gcc & g++?05:37
prophetwhat else should i use05:37
Warbojman8888: OK, I've never heard of that :)05:37
fiendskull9lophyte: im looking right now, have you noticed an extreme slowness in the ubuntu forums lately?05:37
cvpmatthew_w: Yes.05:38
gidimdarksoul_: No, that was my want too.05:38
nich0sfiendskull9, I'm just messin with ya, google is totally something that they would say. :P05:38
lophytefiendskull9: yeah, its been rather slow lately05:38
dasGewitte1what's the command to compile a file again?05:38
bruenigPulshion, isn't that a monitor thing05:38
nich0sfiendskull9, You made me smile :)05:38
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fiendskull9nich0s: lol05:38
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janbananWarbo: I can install icons whit drag-drop but not themes05:38
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jordanauWarbo, so you can see the router but not connect to it?05:38
Don_jrokay, finally done burning at 2X, let's see if it loads any faster.....05:38
gigaubuntuforums posted an announcement on their homepage about the lowness05:38
w30cvp, Gnome seems to be advancing faster but they are behind KDE in features so they better be faster. Besides Gnome was started because KDE was kind of alof and did things their way. I think Gnome has their ear to the community of Linux users more. At least for the moment.05:38
bruenigPulshion, try clicking the buttons on your monitor and messing around with those menus05:38
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gidimdarksoul_: They have no intention of releasing a 64-bit Opera when the 32-bit one works fine... but it doesn't work fine, not for me, for everybody else it works fine.05:38
haiyaiAzureus??05:38
matthew_wcvp:  well... what the heck should I do?  When I use vncviewer, it just gives me a freeze, because if I don't put the "screen number" it does nothing... afaik, there is no screen number @ windows... confusion?05:38
ElementalDragoncan someone help with my install problem....... preferably in a PM?05:38
Pulshionbruenig -- yea but its all the way up and my monitor is fudged05:38
fiendskull9lophyte: well i hope i can get rid of this package, its disabling me from doing anything, even getting cpan modules!05:38
omooredistantbody, it's not broke .. i'm currently running centos which has been rock solid for it... but i want to move to ubuntu for my host...05:38
bruenigoh05:38
pushpopis there a way to force an install?05:38
Warbojanbanan: Try extracting the archive and putting it in $HOME/.themes (that folder is hidden)05:38
haiyaibruenig do you ponder my problem?05:39
jman8888Warbo, Its a wireless modem but i only have one D-Link. I already was using the ethernet on the back so i went for a risk and Tried ubuntu with the usb connection. And it worked.05:39
nich0sLet's say my computer... is kinda slow... I'm talking p2 technology... which desktop environment is going to be more suited to my lack of hardware?05:39
omooredistantbody, it tried fedora once but an update (even withthe proper header (suposedly) for the runnign kernel broke it05:39
gidimdarksoul_: Hence I tried to install the 32-bit Ubuntu so I wouldn't have the Opera problem... I just failed miserably at it.05:39
cvpmatthew_w: *shrug*05:39
jman8888But where is the hosts.ect in ubuntu?05:39
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fiendskull9nich0s: fluxbox definately05:39
bruenighaiyai, no idea, nat always worked well with me05:39
pushpopIs there a way to force an install ex apt-get install ?05:39
relachsHmm, unfortunetely i dont see a way atm05:39
eternalswdtehsu, try checking again after doing apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
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dr_willisnich0s,  one without lots of eyecandy05:39
cvpmatthew_w: I've had no problems... so I'm not sure I'm equipped to help you out.05:39
bruenigyou may be behind a firewall?05:39
Pulshionbruenig -- my monitor is acting weird and its all the way up, in games like cs, doom3, the dark spots are pitch black and you cant see anything05:39
nich0sdr_willis, I hate candy :p05:39
omooredistantbody, and i just don't want to get into a situation where i have to fall back to 'plan b' again05:39
eternalswdtehsu, * apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
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eternalswdtehsu, * sudo apt-get install gnome-applets05:39
darksoul_why doesn't ubuntu 64 allow 32bit to run without coding? i just dont understand that05:39
gigas_h_a_d_o_w_s on the forums05:39
tehsualready the newst..05:40
Don_jrDoes ubuntu come with a pre-installed firewall?05:40
matthew_wCan anyone point me to a FAQ on VNCing into a windows box?  or tell me what I'm doing wrong?05:40
Warbo!firewall05:40
gidimdarksoul_: It's a matter of the libraries you have installed.05:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)05:40
distantbodyomoore: If it gets broken. just reinstall it, as long as your virtual machines are fine....05:40
jman8888... Now im being ignored...05:40
fiendskull9nich0s: i have quite a few screenshots demonstrating fluxbox (what i use), and it uses about 100mb ram. and occaisonally 1% of my p405:40
PulshionDon_jr -- get firestarter05:40
tehsueternalswd, its, already installed..05:40
fiendskull9nich0s: just the kde wallet system uses 100mb ram :D05:40
UncleOp22matthew_w: have you already looked at the VNC web site?05:40
omooredistantbody, yeah.. i know.. but...05:40
bruenigdarksoul_, it is supposed to be available in edgy, a multiarch system. Do any other OSes have the ability to run both 64 and 32, I am asking because I don't know does windows?05:40
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dr_willisDon_jr,  linux has firewalling fetures built in.. you can install more powerfull config/front ends to the basic firealling features.05:40
Warbojman8888: Do you mean /etc/hosts?05:40
nich0sfiendskull9, Assuming that I know nothing about linux.(period) How would I go about obtaining and replacing my shell05:40
dasGewitte1what's the command to compile a file?05:40
nich0sfiendskull9, ROFL05:40
Don_jrOkay, I've got to get it installed and hope my wireless card works as I've been told it will before I wory about it.05:40
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nich0sfiendskull9, And KDE is out the window for me :P05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  which 'shell' are you refering to?05:41
fiendskull9nich0s: do you have ubuntu installed?05:41
jman8888Warbo, ? Will i be able to block sites like in windows with it?05:41
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fiendskull9dr_willis: he might be using the wrong terminology05:41
nich0sfiendskull9, Yes05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  you using 'shell' in the windows way - meaning the GUI/Desktop?05:41
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prophetanyone?05:41
fiendskull9nich0s: sudo apt-get install fluxbox05:41
omooredistantbody, fedora had a miss-match of theheaders witht he running kernel at one point.. which meant that vmware-config.pl would nver work (even witht he support mod )05:41
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fiendskull9nich0s: then log out to gdm05:41
m0nkeysHI05:41
nich0sdr_willis, The server environment :P (is a gates baby) osrry05:41
darksoul_bruenig, No, i dont think so, i never really tried it on windows, but i would think they would have both librarys installed, just the 64bit as the main one..05:41
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tehsueternalswd, any ideas onw how i can get my cpu and gpu to run cooler and slower in linux?05:41
dr_willisnich0s,  if you have different windowmanagers/dekstops installed the GDM login menu has where you pick what one to use.05:41
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fiendskull9nich0s: select sessions from the options menu in bottom left corner05:41
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UncleOp22matthew_w: http://www.realvnc.com/05:42
Pulshionis there a way to set contrast and brightness using some apps, i used to be able to use catalyst control center in windows how do i do it in ubuntu?05:42
fiendskull9nich0s: and select fluxbox05:42
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jman8888Warbo, ?05:42
matthew_wUncleOp22; Yes; and I'm going over it again now.05:42
omooredistantbody, i ended up having to downgrade the kernel to get vmware back up...05:42
fiendskull9Pulshion: install the ati drivers, and the atitool05:42
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darksoul_Is the ubuntu forums down?05:42
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distantbodyomoore: but if you install the correct header on Ubuntu it will install fine05:42
profoX`Pulshion: ati has a tool to change a few settings on linux..05:42
Don_jrAlso, running ubuntu am I going to need to, or should I, log in and out each use?05:42
profoX`Pulshion: how is it called again..05:42
tehsuDoes anyone know how to get the cpu and gpu to run at a lower mhz at all times?05:42
m0nkeysDoes anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )05:42
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omooredistantbody, right..  i follow...05:42
tuvis there a simple way to show the Home folder icon on the desktop?05:42
profoX`Pulshion: only available if you installed the fglrx drivers though05:42
relachsHmmm, when i tried ubuntu few days ago, i could only enter a WEP key, but i need to setup for WPA i think, or the other way around05:42
emoboyhey...anyone here have time for a quick question05:42
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omooredistantbody, i just wanted to hear from someone using it that things work well05:42
relachsfor WLAN05:42
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PulshionprofoX` -- i have driver installed already05:42
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profoX`Pulshion: then it should be around somewhere :)05:43
omooredistantbody, before i went through the bother of building another host environment05:43
nich0sfiendskull9, gdm??? (nich0s =! moron) returns false alot :P05:43
IcemanV9!ask > emoboy05:43
profoX`Pulshion: fglrx-control05:43
matthew_wWhat would the screen number be for a Windows Box05:43
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UncleOp22matthew_w: when I (rarely) start up my winblows box, I have set VNC to auto-start as a service.  Did you do that already?  It will show up in the system tray.05:43
profoX`Pulshion: i think thats the command05:43
wooya510Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Maybe, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?05:43
matthew_w!ask > matthew_w05:43
MunchkinguyIs it possible to get OpenOffice Draw to do facing pages?05:43
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matthew_wUncleOp22; yes.05:43
fiendskull9nich0s: join the channel #omg real quick, this place is really congested05:43
omooredistantbody, i've used vmware reliably since pre 1.0.. the fedora 5 hickup has been the only time i had a problem05:43
relachsi reboot (see you in ubuntu, i hope *g*)05:43
emoboyanyone have any experience running/installing ubuntu under windows and Parallels Workstation?05:43
PulshionprofoX` -- command not fund05:44
profoX`Pulshion: The control panel shows detailed information on your display adapter and allows you to set dual screen options, adjust gamma correction and set TV out options.05:44
distantbodyomoore: sure. All I can say is that I have had VMWARE player (free) and Server (also free) and the work fine.05:44
UncleOp22matthew_2: don't set a screen number.  Just use the hostname (or IP address)05:44
w30tuv, what window manager are you using?05:44
profoX`Pulshion: slocate fglrx-control05:44
tuvw30, gnome05:44
wooya510Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Perhaps, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?05:44
m0nkeysDoes anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )05:44
matthew_wUncleOp22; then VNC viewer acts as though I didn't put in an IP address.05:44
PulshionprofoX` -- still nothing05:44
matthew_wUncleOp22: and just clears the box05:44
omooredistantbody, k.. i use player on most boxes.. but prefer workstation.. the extrea features are easily worth the cost :)05:44
prophetis there anything else other then valkntu05:44
IcemanV9!ask > wooya51005:44
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profoX`Pulshion: okay that's strange.. try apt-getting it? sudo apt-get install fglrx-control05:44
omooredistantbody, the whole snapshot thing is very sweet05:44
piratepenguinwhat do these messages mean in my dmesg? "ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 1571906" I've got about 20 of 'em05:45
kitsuneofdoomI have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks05:45
sizzamfyi - forums are back up05:45
emoboyhow do i install ubuntu under a virtual machine....do i need a partition to install it to?05:45
PulshionprofoX` -- yep, installed it05:45
profoX`Pulshion: otherwise try: fireglconfig05:45
distantbodyomoore: yes, i have had workstation, and snapshoots sure are great...05:45
profoX`Pulshion: or firegl-config fglrxconfig fglrx-config .. one of those05:45
omooredistantbody, not to mention the cloning, video, auto sizing of displays, etc05:45
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PulshionprofoX` -- thats a lot of commands lol05:46
profoX`Pulshion: one of them is the right one :p05:46
omooredistantbody, (creating video, not video cards)05:46
haydenhow do i enable dma on my dvd drive05:46
tehsui still cant find anything for cpu temp05:46
w30tuv click on places in the panel and then  when you see home folder click and drag it to a blank space on the desktop05:46
profoX`IcemanV9: me neither.. lol05:46
tehsugdesktels is crap05:46
omooreemoboy, are you asking about a vmware virtual machine?05:46
IcemanV9tehsu: type "acpi -t" to see the temp05:46
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PulshionprofoX` -- haha none worked05:46
tuvw30, thanks alot.. that was easy.. exactly what i'm looking for!05:47
emoboywell im actually wondering about a parallels VM, but i would assume its a similar process05:47
distantbodyomoore:cloneing = copy & paste :-P05:47
emoboybascially i want to run ubuntu under windows without dual booting05:47
dr_willisemoboy,  qemu can do that.05:47
matthew_wUncleOp22; any idea why it does this?05:47
dr_willisemoboy,  or vmware05:47
omooredistantbody, yeah.. pretty much.. except you can clone a snapshot too05:47
UncleOp22matthew_w: Dumb question: have you gotten VNC to work before?  When I VNC "into" another system from Linux (RH9 - ubuntu someday), I get a box that says, "VNC server:".  When I provide the hostname, it then "clears" that dialog and puts up a new prompt for the VNC password.05:47
profoX`Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/firegl-config05:47
profoX`Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrol05:47
tehsuIcemanV9, how can i check what clock its running at05:47
profoX`I mean05:47
wooya510 There is user who know this debug message about LDAP? - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"05:47
profoX`Pulshion: the last one :) try that05:48
w30tuv, then right click on the folder and go to properties and click on the icon and pick out a house picture :=)05:48
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emoboyhmm well i have a parallels reg key already, so i would like to use that05:48
wubrgamerhey guys05:48
wubrgamerhey guys05:48
matthew_wUncleOp22; Yes, I've had it working Ubuntu to Ubuntu.  Because I go 192.168.1.5:0 for the 0.0 Xserver screen.05:48
IcemanV9tehsu: not sure which command to find out its clock running05:48
emoboywhen using a VM, do you install to the HD first then use the VM to boot that install?05:48
PulshionprofoX` -- odd, is it X11R6 or just X11?05:48
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wubrgamerwhy is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?05:48
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matthew_wUncleOp22: However, to Windows, it goes Vnc Server: and then I punch in the IP, and it just gives me a prompt for the server again.05:48
profoX`Pulshion: X11R605:49
profoX`Pulshion: odd indeed05:49
UncleOp22matthew_w: so try this: in an xterm of your choice, type "vncviewer hostname" and see if it prompts you for a password...05:49
BSG75is there a way to tell ubuntu to not look for my nic at boot?05:49
tuvw30, where do i look for the picture?05:49
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UncleOp22BSG75: um, install debian instead?  :-)05:49
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BSG75I am this close05:49
PulshionprofoX` -- btw in that folder all tehre is is X05:49
profoX`Pulshion: doesnt that work? its from the official manual -- and i remember that that worked on my previous laptop05:50
BSG75it's my wife's puter .. and ubuntu is really good for her05:50
profoX`i run ati radeon 7500 now -- not fglrx05:50
PulshionprofoX` -- where can i get the manual05:50
matthew_wUncleOp22: huhmm... No, just seems to give me copyright info and stop.05:50
eternalswdtehsu, sorry can't help you with heat control and I couldn't turn anything up from the forums05:50
emoboyany ideas :(05:50
BSG75but this no control crap is driving me nuts :(05:50
PulshionprofoX` -- sorry for the hastle05:50
mitype2Hi all I'm new to Linux and having a terrible time getting used to it05:50
profoX`Pulshion: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html05:50
matthew_wUncleOp22:  I don't get why - the computer that is running it is running it, it's in a DMZ, it's all correct...05:50
w30tuv right click on the hom folder icon and then click on properties and then click on the folder picture of that window05:50
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wubrgamerwhy is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?05:50
distantbodyemoboy:please restate question05:51
profoX`Pulshion: newer version: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8.html05:51
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IcemanV9tehsu: i think i found the command -- sudo powernowd -v05:51
emoboywhen using a VM, do you install to the HD partition first (as you usually would) then use the VM to boot that install?05:51
emoboyor is there an easier way05:51
tuvw30, i got that.. but in what folder to i find a house icon file?05:51
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PulshionprofoX` -- where to check what version of drivers i haev installed?05:51
emoboyim talking VM's in general, im actually using parallels05:51
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fiendskull9note to self, never apt-get install linux for fun05:51
fiendskull9hahaha05:51
distantbodyemoboy:install what ? VMWare?05:51
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emoboyi want to install ubuntu05:52
emoboyunder windows using parallels05:52
eternalswdwubrgamer, the 1.5.0.6 update was to fix a regression for windows media plugin, so windows only05:52
UncleOp22matthew_w:  If it's really "all correct", consider going the other way around: windows into ubuntu/linux.  If that works, then you may need to specifically tell the windoze vncserver to allow external connections.  But IIRC, it pretty much "just worked" for me.05:52
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distantbodyemoboy: i'll private message05:52
emoboyso would i install ubuntu from the cd as usual, then boot XP and run the VM05:52
emoboyok thx05:52
matthew_wUncleOp22; the windows to ubuntu one works flawlessly, tried that like an hour ago.05:52
ElementalDragoncan someone please help me out....... prefferably in a PM?05:52
omooreemoboy, for *vmware*.. you create a virtual machine.. a virtual machine consists of a virutal hard drive that will grow to a designated size.. however...05:52
wubrgamerbut there IS a 1.5.0.6 for linux05:52
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omooreemoboy, initially.. the virutal hard drive is *not* partitioned05:53
profoX`Pulshion: wait.. i am wrong ...05:53
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omooreemoboy, it si the job of the os to partition it...05:53
profoX`thats about aticonfig.. thats to configure the drivers and edit xorg -- not to change colors etc05:53
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eternalswdwubrgamer, that's news to me05:53
tehsuIcemanV9, i wonder if i can set it to never go up past a certain level05:53
profoX`stupid ATI05:53
omooreemoboy, so your virtual machine has a virtuarl cpu/hd/cdrom/nic/etc..05:53
UncleOp22matthew_w: Hrm.  OK, lemme' power up the spawn of Redmond.  It will take a couple...05:53
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wubrgamermeybe they just bumped the version number to keep it all on the same track ?05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22: It's ok!05:53
emoboyso i can partition during the install under parallels? and then install to the actual harddrive?05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22: I will go over to the windows box and tinker.05:53
tehsuanyone know about underclocking the ati x700 mobile gpu05:53
matthew_wUncleOp22:  Thanks05:53
omooreemoboy, then you boot the vm, of the cd (cd image) and install the os into the os as you normally would...05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- ahh im so confused now lol05:54
IcemanV9tehsu: not sure .. that's what i am looking for an answer myself. :)05:54
omooreemoboy, but that's vwmare.. i dont' know about parallels05:54
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tehsuk05:54
tehsuty05:54
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profoX`Pulshion: yea me too.. blame ati05:54
distantbodyemoboy: Did you get my message?05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- drivers work fine tho05:54
omooreemoboy, if it works like vm's i've used, yes.. you'd partition during install...05:54
ElementalDragonWhy can't i boot into Ubuntu Live?05:54
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w30tuv, there should be some pictures of icons show up in a window, scroll through the pictures if they show up.05:54
PulshionprofoX` -- i run doom3, cs on high settings no lags whatesoever05:54
emoboyi did not distant...running irc on Opera :(05:54
profoX`Pulshion: nice05:54
omooreemoboy, the ones i have uses only create a virtual hard drive... not a virtual hard drive partition05:54
profoX`i dont know where to find it then05:54
profoX`did you do an slocate05:55
profoX`on euhm05:55
profoX`slocate firegl05:55
profoX`and slocate fglrx05:55
profoX`?05:55
distantbodyemoby: ok.05:55
agibhey, could anyone give me advice: I want to set up an ubuntu LAMP (maybe rails) server and I have a comp sitting around with 2 75GB hdds in it -- what would the best partitioning scheme be?  is software RAID worth it?05:55
omooreemoboy, but again.. i don't even know what parallels is05:55
IcemanV9tehsu: instead of gdesklets, try this one -- multiload_applet (cpu, load avg, mem, net, swap)05:55
distantbodyemoboy: Just use VMWare.05:55
tehsuk05:55
omooreemoboy, i agree with distantbody .. vmware is a really good virtual machine05:55
PulshionprofoX` -- yea i did slocate firegl right now and i got fireglcontrolpanel05:55
BSG75finally :) the damn thing was trying to load Intel 3945 wireless driver ..05:56
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eternalswdwubrgamer, they probably update all of their numbers for every OS even when an update only affects one for file management consistency, but I assure you that 1.5.0.6 for linux is the same as 1.5.0.505:56
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BSG75I am hoping NOW it will load the ndis driver05:56
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ISOLATEDViRuSi have a question, i have all of the dependencies for XGL and Compiz, how do i enable it?05:56
PulshionprofoX` -- it was weird, i restarted the terminal05:56
tehsuIcemanV9, do u know the aptget for it05:56
emoboyok ill try that then05:56
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PulshionprofoX` -- it worked now05:56
emoboythanks guys, ill let you know05:56
profoX`Pulshion: yea lol.. stupid ati ._.05:56
profoX`:P05:56
wooya510I have a problem about LDAP Configuration.05:56
PulshionprofoX` -- stupid me maybe haha05:56
profoX`with their stupid control panel05:56
profoX`being so hidden05:56
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tehsuIcemanV9, have u ever underclocked a gpu05:57
profoX`Pulshion: noo! never blame yourself ;) it's always the proprietary programs that are wrong ;)05:57
PulshionprofoX` -- all i can change in the control panel is gamma05:57
profoX`Pulshion: well..05:57
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profoX`really?05:57
IcemanV9tehsu: i think it is already installed .. and no, i never underclocked gpu before05:57
wooya510There is users who know this debug messages - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"05:57
profoX`i thoughr brightness too05:57
distantbodyemoboy: use VMware Server, its free and you can make new virtual machines withit (as oppose to just the player)05:57
PulshionprofoX` -- it took me a whole night find out why x was crashing and it was because my dad switched the video in cable :(05:57
profoX`Pulshion: cant u just use your monitor to change brightness too?05:58
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tehsui really wanna underclock mine on my laptop, its constantly runing a sucking battery05:58
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KragneracHello, does anybody know how to switch from Xorg to Xair?05:58
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profoX`Kragnerac: what is Xair05:58
PulshionprofoX` -- my monitor is going bad, so i have no clue but everything is dark, even if brightness and contrast are all the way up, in windy i used catalyst to change settings05:58
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ISOLATEDViRuSHow do i enable XGL?05:59
nich0sAll should praise fiendskull9 for he teaches n00bs in a friendly direct and generally awesome manner :)05:59
distantbodyemoboy: (I think he has left ;) Free for Linux, Windows, No Mac version (tho comming very soon)05:59
fiendskull9hehehe05:59
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profoX`ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl05:59
fiendskull9nich0s: you can feel more at home with my fluxbox theme, lol05:59
kitsuneofdoomok, now I realize I hae a new problem. I have a broadcom card, a 4319, and it is extremely sensitive to low signals in Linux, rejecting a lot of things it accepts fine in windows06:00
fiendskull9nich0s: to install themes, you need to put them in ~/.fluxbox/styles/06:00
kitsuneofdoomI even thought it didn't work, until I tried it right next to the router06:00
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fiendskull9nich0s: join #omg again06:00
nich0sfiendskull9, check the other channel for my log :P06:00
eternalswd!xgl06:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:00
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emoboy:) still here...thanks guys ill try it06:01
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x1977xdoes anyone know why i would get this line: "E: Couldn't find package fglrx" when i try to apt-get it?  ("sudo apt-get install fglrx")  i have all the binary repositories checked...06:01
robert_I need to install headers so I can compile gaim-2.0.0-beta3 :/06:01
PulshionprofoX` -- should i update the drivers? i have 8.25.18 installed?06:01
IcemanV9tehsu: wish i knew the answer .. this is definitely on my "to-do" list. i'd like to know how to control its cpu step as well.06:01
UncleOp22did matthew_w of the VNC problem come back?06:01
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kitsuneofdoomx1977x: I think the package is called something else06:01
profoX`Pulshion: not if everything works fine -- unless you REALLY want the newest drivers but then you'll have to install them manually06:01
jman8888Please Awnser me.  Would a pc slow down if upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10?06:01
kitsuneofdoomx1977x: xorg-driver-fglrx or something06:01
PulshionprofoX` -- yea, everything does work fine, but usually the newer the better06:02
profoX`xserver-xorg-fglrx x1977x06:02
profoX`no06:02
profoX`what kitsuneofdoom says06:02
PulshionprofoX` -- in breezy i could not get my drivers to work so i switched bak to windy, now i aint going bak lol06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: I don't believe so, but the latest version is 6.06. it depends on the window manager a lot06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: check out xubuntu 6.0606:02
eternalswdrobert_, I have a source for gaim2 beta three that you can add to sources.lst, but as I recall, you need libc6 from edgy for it to work06:02
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: or use openbox or fluxbox06:03
wooya510Users who know about LDAP configuration help me, plz06:03
thedude45hey, wierd question.. anyone had success running their linux box as a gateway using a wired nic to connect to internet, and wirless to connect to internal network06:03
Don_jrAre there any other nix installs that are only 1 cd?06:03
ElementalDragonprofox: any chance you might be able to be of some assistance to a problem i'm having booting to Ubuntu Live?06:03
thedude45is it even possible06:03
BSG75anyone know where does ubuntu loads it's mods from?06:03
thedude45Don_jr, debian06:03
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profoX`ElementalDragon: which problem06:03
Rusty1Don_jr:  kanotix06:03
profoX`Pulshion: that sucks :P06:03
profoX`Pulshion: i'd say -- buy a new monitor lol06:04
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distantbodyDon_jr: I really hope you get Ubuntu working because its really worth it...06:04
ElementalDragonwell.... with the x86 version, i choose the first option, to boot to Live or install Ubuntu06:04
n1xt3rwooya510: read the man pages and run ldap in debug mode06:04
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ElementalDragonit get's to the Ubuntu loading screen, where it loads everything it needs to run off the Live CD....06:04
wooya510n1xt3r, //i did it06:04
tehsuIcemanV9, i would really like to control the step and the gpu clock and ill be staying on ubuntu for my laptop06:04
ElementalDragonthen it comes to the black screen with a blinking underscore cursor in the top left corner, the cursor blinks a couple times, then stops06:04
UncleOp22Don-jr: knoppix, too, I think.  Then there's DSL (Damned Small Linux)06:04
tehsutill then back to windows06:04
PulshionprofoX` -- have to wait till my bday, but i wanna play some doom lol...just looking for a solution since i had this monitor for so long and played games fine in windy with my custom setting in catalyst06:04
wooya510n1xt3r, i did it06:04
Don_jrI'm workin on it still, I booted the computerand it was setting up ubuntu and came back downstairs and the computer was shut off06:05
profoX`Pulshion: well -- that sucks :P06:05
SlaSheR84how come my ubuntu server cd boots once then never again?06:05
profoX`Pulshion: i know you can change brightness in nvidia fine..06:05
profoX`havent run an ati in a while06:05
PulshionprofoX` -- darn ati06:05
x1977xsynaptic says i have "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" already, and i got the same error with "xserver-xorg-fglrx"..any thoughts?06:06
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IcemanV9tehsu: sorry about that, but keep googling for holy grail answer. (i'll do the same for myself)06:06
Don_jrdistantbody If linux is so compatible, what would be the difference in getting one over the other?  wouldn't most things that work in red hat work in ubuntu and in debian aswell?06:06
wooya510n1xt3r: "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" you know this debug message?06:06
tehsuyeah06:06
PulshionprofoX` -- is this the only control panel they got?06:06
ElementalDragonprofox:  want me to just PM you with the issue i'm having?06:06
ElementalDragoneasier to keep track that way06:06
profoX`ElementalDragon: if you think i am the right person to ask -- yes06:07
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, So even though 5.04 says it needs 32mb ! It will run the same as 5.10 or 6.06?06:07
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profoX`Pulshion: i think so.. maybe theres an other one that can change brightness but i dont know where you would be able to get it :)06:07
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Don_jrI"m having the ubuntu boot check the CD for errors then will try and install again if it's all clear06:07
sivaniconHow do i get the rest of my monitors resolutions to come up?06:07
Don_jrOMG, there's exe files on this?06:08
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy?06:08
Don_jrI didn't think nix systems used .exe files06:08
n1xt3rn1xt3r: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?06:08
PulshionprofoX` -- ok thanx for the help anyway, and you said i can set dual monitors, tv out/in in the control panel, where at?06:08
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, ? Can i feel safe upgrading06:08
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: what you want to do is a server install. That will just install the base packages, and a text interface. Then you just get openbox06:08
distantbodyDon_jr: Each distro focuses on different aspects06:08
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kitsuneofdoomjman8888: or keep just the text interface if you want06:09
Don_jrokay, but theoretically, you could add anything to one that you could another right?06:09
supernixWelp I am now running Gnome so I am now semi ubuntu06:09
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy in linux?06:09
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Don_jrso it's only a matter of getting the most from the original install?06:09
supernixI still like my kubuntu though06:09
jrsimsanyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?06:09
Don_jrso there's less to get later06:09
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profoX`Pulshion: tv out -- somewhere -- about dual monitors im not sure, but you can do that with aticonfig for sure (that will edit xorg.conf iirc)06:09
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profoX`its been awhile since i ran ati fglrx:)06:10
distantbodyDon_jr: yes, but sometimes it's more hassle than its worth06:10
PulshionprofoX` -- there is no gui to set that up? i have my xorg edited right now06:10
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Don_jrSo Ubuntu, in your oppinion, is the most compatible for new users then?06:10
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distantbodyDon_jr: and you might as just well install that different distro...06:10
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distantbodyDon_jr:Yes06:11
kerwonzhi i need some help, i ready installed ubuntu dapper, but i cant load windows :( i dont know how to do this... what can i do?06:11
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Don_jrOkay, I'll stick with trying, and if it doesn't work out...I'll order the CD from them....heh06:11
tjcarterhm, ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning, "we like brown, so shush!"06:11
profoX`Pulshion: i don't think so06:11
IcemanV9jman8888: this thread might help ya -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224723&highlight=install+small+ram06:11
tjcarterhey chalcedony06:11
IcemanV9tjcarter: lol06:11
XxXBrAnDoNXxXHow do I make a bootable floppy in linux, anyone?06:11
profoX`kerwonz: sudo fdisk -l -- post output on www.pastebin.ca06:12
profoX`kerwonz: you mean you can't boot windows anymore, right?06:12
Don_jrI sat here for almost an hour and a half waiting for this to install and nothing....re burned the CD.  This is a pain06:12
kerwonzprofoX, yes06:12
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Don_jrbut if it works, will be well worth it06:12
tjcarterIcemanV9: according to feh (other network), it may also mean "Can't install Debian", "Sick of compiling Gentoo", or "My friends will laugh at me if I buy a Mac"...06:12
IcemanV9Don_jr: did you md5sum the CD?06:12
Don_jrget me away from microsoft is all I care...lol06:13
profoX`kerwonz: do you know how to open a terminal window?06:13
kerwonzprofoX: http://pastebin.ca/14712406:13
_relachsbi need help with assigning Mountpoints to Partitions06:13
distantbodyDon_jr: It may be the disc drive/laser...06:13
Don_jrno, not sure exactly what that means or how to us eit06:13
profoX`kerwonz: ok wait06:13
kerwonzprofoX: yes i know.06:13
Don_jrthe cd has run anything else I"ve ever put in it06:13
Don_jrthe cdrom that is06:13
IcemanV9Don_jr: it'll check if CD is ok or not06:13
kerwonzso i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault06:13
w30XxXBrAnDoNXxX, at the cooam line type mkboot06:13
tjcarterIcemanV9: or maybe it just means, "It's sure nice to have a dist that actually works."06:13
Don_jrokay, getting GUI now, we're moving along this time06:13
kerwonzprofoX: so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault but doesnt works :(06:13
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IcemanV9tjcarter: :)06:14
w30XxXBrAnDoNXxX, maybe better type mkboot -help06:14
Don_jrno errors durring the load sequence06:14
profoX`kerwonz: now type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    -- and copy that file to www.pastebin.ca -- and I'll tell you if somethings wrong and/or if you have to change something06:14
XxXBrAnDoNXxXw30 thanx06:14
distantbodyDon_jr: That sounds positive:)06:14
profoX`(hd0,4) should be right though06:14
jrsimsanyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?06:14
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, No the acctual Cd Case (from shipit) said it needs 32 mb ram (but i have 128 so i should be ok with 5.10) i dont think i can handle 6.06... (How can i upgrade from a Cd.06:14
Don_jrit's gone this far once before, I had it runnin on live CD properly06:14
IcemanV9Don_jr: we're behind ya! :)06:14
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kontikiHi - What sw lets me view the bash terminal sessions in real time, for people logged into my box? (laptop)06:15
Don_jrthen when I clicked install, I sat here for an hour and a half with nothing to show me it was doing anything......and was suggested I reburn the ISO at a slower speed and it might speed up the install process06:15
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: I'm not impressed that greater versions mean greater ram consumption neccesarily06:15
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kitsuneofdoom128 should be fine with 6.06 server install06:15
kerwonzprofoX: oks06:15
kitsuneofdoomjman8888: sorry, see two above06:15
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Don_jrgaim is compatible with MSN correct? and there's an IRC client built into ubuntu?06:16
tjcarterthe gooey thing on the CD..  Is that isolinux or some really abused GRUB?  Anyway, if I leave it running for a few seconds, it locks.06:16
kitsuneofdoomDon_jr: I think there's one in gaim06:16
distantbodyDon_jr gaim is preinstalled06:16
sapakidoes any of you know what this is:06:16
Don_jras long as both of those are true with firefox, it'll do everything I want it to.06:16
n1xt3rwooya510: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?06:16
tjcarteranything I can do within 10 seconds to get it the hell out of that gooey will cause the system to work fine.06:16
IcemanV9jman8888: i have installed dapper flight x on 128mb box before it dies without any problem.06:16
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kerwonzprofoX: http://pastebin.ca/14712506:16
jman8888kitsuneofdoom, But its a gnome install. Works great and fast with 5.04 so i just want to know how to use the cd to upgrade.06:16
tjcarterI think it's the shared mem06:16
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jman8888IcemanV9, Dapper flight06:17
sapakilinux source tree make is incomplete or missing!           S06:17
jman8888?06:17
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Don_jrif I like it on my laptop enough I'll check this computer i"m on now and make sure all the hardware will take and I'll run it here too06:17
Don_jronly 2 things I worry about here are my wireless USB networking stuff and my vid card06:17
distantbodyDon_jr: You should have daul booted it on your faster computer!:-/06:18
IcemanV9jman8888: before the official release, i used dapper flight back in spring/early summer before my box died 5 months ago.06:18
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Hobbseegot him :)06:18
Don_jrI'm not sure I trust myself to do that properly and I didn't want to screw up my good one till I knew what I was doing.06:18
jman8888?06:18
Agrajag-gday, i've put a dapper cd in a breezy machine, edited the sources.list to only have this line: "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" however an apt-get update doesn't seem to actually do anything - it seems as if it doens't think i have the dapper cd mounted. how can i fix this?06:18
torpedo|dogMany thanks, Hobbsee :)06:18
kerwonzprofoX: you can see that?06:18
w30kontiki, typing users at the commanc line will tell you the names of the users logged in and how many times by repeating their username but it don't give any thing more06:18
HellDragonwtf06:18
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jman8888!ubotu upgrade06:18
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.06:18
profoX`Hobbsee: he's going around everywhere -- he did it 3x on ##linux06:19
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Don_jrand knowing now that my wireless isn't supported directly by Ubuntu I woulnd't be able to get online with this one if I dual booted it06:19
cynicallol who would use tor to spam the channel?....06:19
Kragnerac!ubotu AIGLX06:19
cynicalthats retarded06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about AIGLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
profoX`kerwonz: yea one quick note..06:19
HellDragoncynical: kinda06:19
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profoX`kerwonz: never put something like that between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS tags06:19
Agrajag-jman8888: if that was for me, it's not helping as i don't have access to synaptic.06:19
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pharglewho still uses wireless06:19
cynicalhelldragon: I mean honestly, its not like hes going to accomplish anything06:19
SlaSheR84should i use alcohol 120% to burn ubuntu server or something else06:19
distantbodyDon_jr: Well, it's competely automagical and it wond harm your windows(?) install...06:19
cynicalphargle: I do06:19
HellDragoncynical: thats sick06:19
Don_jrOkay Live CD is up and running.06:20
xepherphargle: i do06:20
profoX`kerwonz: put the block with windows BEFORE: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST06:20
kontikiw30: thx, but I want to view a copy of their bash session in real time - any idea how to do that, or what irc channel to ask that on?06:20
HobbseeprofoX`: we cant really do much about it, except for block tor06:20
profoX`kerwonz: otherwise you'll lose that entry in grub with a new kernel update06:20
torpedo|dogSlaSheR84: any CD burner software will work, so long as it can burn .iso06:20
profoX`Hobbsee: i know06:20
Don_jrbut I woulnd't be able to be on here and chat while I was installing and get help either06:20
Agrajag-jman8888: also i want to use the cd, not use http. doing it with http works.06:20
profoX`Hobbsee: i just don't get what's supposed to be so funny/amusing about it ._.06:20
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cynicalHobbsee: its sad that you have to resort to that.  I dont really see why anyone would want to waste their time doing it..06:21
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profoX`how can someone have fun with that06:21
Don_jrCDrom is still buzzin, I'm not clickin install till it's done06:21
Hobbseecynical: true that.  they've only recently been unbanned, too06:21
HobbseeprofoX`: exactly06:21
tjcarterThis thing is becoming an UbunTV  =D06:21
kerwonzprofoX`, yes, but when i try boot i cant do that, maybe can fix that?06:21
jman8888Agrajag, I used the cd before. I just added the cd and did what ubotu said to do. It can be done in nao...06:21
jman8888nano06:21
profoX`kerwonz: wait..06:21
UncleOp22If "matthew_w" of the VNC problems returns, tell him to look in the pastebox and search for his moniker.06:21
distantbodyDon_jr: just as long as you have at least one good install:)06:21
w30kontiki, looking at the logs should show more (/var/log)06:21
nich0sls06:21
Don_jrnow there's an error. AOFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet".  there's a problem loading that.  do I want to delete the applet from my configuration??06:22
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Don_jrit's asking me to delete or not06:23
BSG75haha you need to blacklist bcm43xx and it doesn't load the free driver ... THEN you can use ndis driver ... what a pain06:23
kerwonzprofoX`, okey06:23
distantbodyDon_jr: No...06:23
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Don_jrok06:23
Agrajag-so why wouldn't apt-get realise i have a dapper cd mounted and to use the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" line in my sources.list?06:23
Don_jrI"m hopeing it will install this time.  I've been trying all day to download a version of nix to install, this is the first one that's gotten this far up to this point....06:24
Don_jrcd is done buzzin, do I need to do anything before I click 'install'?06:24
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distantbodyDon_jr: What are the other buttons?06:24
nich0sYES!06:24
Don_jronly 2 are on the desktop, examples and install06:24
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distantbodyDon_jr: yes, install:)06:25
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Don_jrthere are other things in the....being a windows fool I only know to call it a taskbar at the top of the screen, applications, places, system and a globe and what looks liek probably e-mail06:25
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Don_jrokay, just install now06:25
EldaYeee finally back online06:25
xnull-heya anybody using  edgy (development branch)  ?06:25
nich0sElda, Welcome back06:25
Don_jrpray for me....I"ll need it! lol06:25
EldaI hate having to leech off of someone elses internet >.<06:25
nich0sDon_jr, Dominus et espirio santi or somthing06:26
distantbodyDon_jr: There all the programs that you can use off of the live cd, so it isnt actually installed anything yet...06:26
EldaThe cable people are coming soon to hook up our internet/tv though so it will be nifty xd06:26
profoX`kerwonz: maybe rootnoverify works better ?06:26
Don_jrshould anything come on the screen when install begins?06:26
EldaxD06:26
kerwonzprofoX`: letme try, brb06:26
distantbodyDon_jr: yes:language options06:26
IcemanV9Elda: you'll love it when it is installed. :)06:27
Don_jrsheesh, last time I hit install it did nothing for an hour..if I'd have known that I wouldn't have sat and waited like that....lol06:27
distantbodyDon_jr: Then time zone (with a pretty map)06:27
nich0sDon_jr, There should be a flashing epileptic light with a thunderous voice telling you about the benefits of AOL and MICROSOFT :P06:27
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profoX`kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 (oh hes gone-06:27
Don_jraol sux worse than microsoft06:27
nich0sthen nix is the os for you06:27
nich0s06:27
nich0s:p06:27
nich0sand I agre06:27
nich0se06:27
distantbodynich0s::-D06:27
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nich0sdistantbody, :))06:27
Don_jrI'm sick of the microsoft monopoly, that's why I want to try a nix system.06:28
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Don_jrI have seen from being here today that I've got alot to learn before I will drop windows completely, but i"m starting the transition, that's a pluss for me eh? lol06:28
nich0sDon_jr, Microsoft owns the game Monopoly?!?  The world is ending (btw.. this is a joke, I'm not completely stupid)06:28
Don_jrokay, disk is going crazy, nothing on screen yet......06:29
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