[12:01] <basbryan> Intangir: same error....
[12:01] <Intangir> hrm.. wtf
[12:01] <Intangir> try just .. apt-get install gnome-terminal?
[12:01] <Flamekebab> I don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?
[12:01] <basbryan> Intangir: hold on
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: kubuntu  works fine in dapper and edgy atm
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: I have had nothing but problems with Kubuntu and noting but praise of Ubuntu
[12:01] <Intangir> oh wait.. well
[12:01] <basbryan> Intangir: aptitude gave better output i miised it
[12:01] <Intangir> you could try apt-get update first
[12:01] <verix> AZzKikR: what flag tells this file that ath0/eth0/1/2 or whatever is the default gateway? I don't see any indications...
[12:01] <synic> verix: route add defaul gw <address> dev ath0
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Intangir: why downgrading terminal?
[12:01] <Intangir> the repo was down for me earlier though
[12:01] <verix> synic: ah okay
[12:02] <Dravas> I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window
[12:02] <basbryan> Intangir: gnome-terminal-data needs to be downgraded to downgrade gnome-terminal
[12:02] <Intangir> gnomefreak: hes got issues with one of the newer versions possibly
[12:02] <happy-and-lost> Wireless anyone? Intell 2200GB. It's got a driver, it's enabled, it's connected... but it's only recieving empty packets. Why?!
[12:02] <verix> is <address> an IP or MacAddr?
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak: And I have never really liked Gnome.. but it works...
[12:02] <synic> an ip
[12:02] <gnomefreak> basbryan: alot more than just that
[12:02] <MotorCityMadMan1> how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?
[12:02] <verix> k
[12:02] <basbryan> Intangir: i updated 30 min ago
[12:02] <jason__> I have a pretty simple question.  What is the equivalent of the Windows "run" program in Ubuntu?  I've been looking it up but have been unsuccessful
[12:02] <jvai> reset your router
[12:02] <basbryan> jason__: alt-f2
[12:02] <verix> jason__: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[12:02] <AZzKikR> what kind of interface is an ath0 interface?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> Intangir: basbryan if im not mistaken you need to downgrade a crap load of packages
[12:02] <verix> wireless
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jason__: What are you trying to run?
[12:03] <AZzKikR> i've only seen ra0 and eth0 kinds
[12:03] <verix> ath0 = atheros based wireless
[12:03] <AZzKikR> ah
[12:03] <Flamekebab> I don't suppose it's possible to use XGL and Compiz with XFCE is it?
[12:03] <ubuntu> hi
[12:03] <Intangir> gnomefreak: that aptitude takes care of downgrading dependancies also, thats why i told him use aptitude
[12:03] <lupine> wmaster0 is fun :)
[12:03] <Intangir> apt-get just complains
[12:03] <Intangir> but for me even the very newest versions from quinn work fine
[12:03] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, ask in #unbuntu-xgl
[12:03] <Intangir> now.. i think they got rid of some
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Intangir: sometimes but this case it should
[12:04] <JoseStefan> oops #ubuntu-xgl
[12:04] <jvai> my hoary backports r broke .... but all's good tho
[12:04] <Flamekebab> I just thought it might be an easy "yes or no" question
[12:04] <Intangir> Flamekebab: probably
[12:04] <AZzKikR> JoseStefan: i always type unbuntu by accident too :P
[12:04] <Intangir> Flamekebab: i bet you can
[12:04] <jhutchins_lt> Is there a way to enable a serial mouse with the live CD?
[12:04] <AndyCooll> Laptop wireless help needed
[12:04] <sean> can anyone help me on why my downloads stop downloading?
[12:04] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, i really dont know, you might even have to go as far as getting 3rd party compiz+xgl repositories
[12:05] <sean> http://71.139.0.188:23456/images/DownloadStopping.png is the screenshot
[12:05] <AndyCooll> I have a Toshiba Satellite with Belkin PCMCIA wireless notebook card
[12:05] <sean> if anyone wants to help
[12:05] <JoseStefan> AZzKikR, do not disassemble Johnny Five
[12:05] <ubuntu> jhutchins_lt:  mouse wont work?
[12:05] <ubuntu> keep the cat out :D
[12:05] <AndyCooll> When I try to login it just hangs
[12:05] <Intangir> AndyCooll: log in where?
[12:05] <HNT> hello everybody, i try to install the nvidia driver but i'v got a problem at the start of Xorg, he said me that the nvidia kernel module have a different number that the nvidia binary (nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common) howto fix it ?
[12:06] <MotorCityMadMan1> how can i convert a wab file format to a csv, tab or LDIF ?
[12:06] <JoseStefan> AZzKikR, ...unbuntu is not good :|
[12:06] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1:  wab is windows address book
[12:06] <AndyCooll> On first login, just putting in my name and password
[12:06] <flyingcircus97> what's up with Xorg?
[12:07] <AndyCooll> Accepts the password but doesn't get as far as the desktop
[12:07] <Intangir> HNT: sec..
[12:07] <JoseStefan> flyingcircus97, specifically ?
[12:07] <ubuntu> AndyCooll: can u login in console?
[12:07] <sean> okay
[12:07] <flyingcircus97> After an update last night, Xorg is broken, X server failed to start.
[12:07] <sean> nevermind guys
[12:07] <sean> it just timed out
[12:07] <MotorCityMadMan1> ubuntu: yes true. how can i convet that file ?
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> MotorCityMadMan1: what created the wab ?
[12:07] <AndyCooll> ubuntu: yes
[12:07] <JoseStefan> flyingcircus97, you'll need to do another update, thru the CLI
[12:07] <Intangir> HNT: you need to get nvidia-glx, and the linux-restricted-modules package that matched your kernel
[12:08] <MotorCityMadMan1> outlook
[12:08] <JoseStefan> flyingcircus97, try: sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> MotorCityMadMan1: OUtlook should export a csv file
[12:08] <flyingcircus97> Thanks. So they fixed it already.
[12:08] <AZzKikR> well, no way im gonna update at the moment :D
[12:08] <javaJake> Hello guys
[12:08] <ali4728> Help needed...!  I am trying to copy files from mounted wondows partition to my linux partition "cp"  because file and folder names have space in "W" I get error any suggestions?
[12:08] <fluvvell> MotorCityMadMan1: mozilla thunderbird may be able to import a .wab file
[12:09] <javaJake> ali4728, what?
[12:09] <MotorCityMadMan1> yes thank you. i was trying to convert the file with out leaveing linux
[12:09] <JoseStefan> ali4728, try using cp with quotes
[12:09] <jake1> yay download is done
[12:09] <javaJake> Or, put a \ before spaces
[12:09] <AZzKikR> ali4728: to copy files or folders, you'd have to prepend the space with a \
[12:09] <javaJake> I have my own problem
[12:09] <ali4728> JoseStefan: thanx thats clever
[12:09] <AndyCooll> ubuntu: though if I try "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" for instance that hangs the console too
[12:09] <javaJake> A seemingly random kernel crash
[12:10] <javaJake> With direct rendering enabled
[12:10] <jhutchins_lt> I'm using kubuntu to copy an old disk to a new one using tar, and for some reason it kept spinning up the CD, so I ejected it.
[12:10] <javaJake> Nothing in the logs
[12:10] <happy-and-lost> My router is working fine (connected now) my wifi card has a driver and is enabled, it's connected with 95% signal strength... but it's recieving empty packets. Why?
[12:10] <Intangir> AndyCooll: are you using NIS?
[12:10] <javaJake> But the card is an ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY
[12:10] <HNT> Intangir : yes but the problem is that nvidia-glx require linux-restricted-modules for a 2.6.15.23 kernel and i'm running with a 2.6.15.21 (default) so ... ?
[12:10] <javaJake> With OPENGL! YEA!
[12:10] <jhutchins_lt> Then I tried to edit xorg.conf (to enable my mouse) and POOF - locked the system.
[12:10] <MotorCityMadMan1> fluvvell: thunderbird will not import a wab file
[12:10] <Intangir> HNT: upgrade your kernel? hehe
[12:10] <AndyCooll> Intangir: NIS?
[12:10] <jhutchins_lt> Speaking of logs, where do they live on kubuntu?  I'm used to /var/log/messages
[12:10] <JoseStefan> HNT, you might need to update your kernel
[12:10] <lupine> happy-and-lost: dodgy driver or firmware?
[12:10] <edulix> hi!
[12:10] <jvai> @happy- sumtymes it's concast or verizon... u may have to reset your router
[12:10] <javaJake> VAR/LOG
[12:11] <edulix> hey where can I find a xgl live cd?
[12:11] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1:  do u have kmail?
[12:11] <javaJake> JoseStefan, are you talking to me?
[12:11] <happy-and-lost> It's a fresh install
[12:11] <HNT> k thanks
[12:11] <cafuego> HNT: The latest (fixed) kernel is 2.6.15-26
[12:11] <happy-and-lost> Haven't touched it. Intel 2200BG
[12:11] <MotorCityMadMan1> ubuntu: looking
[12:11] <fluvvell> MotorCityMadMan1: sry, it may have been within windows i did that.  You can import into tb from outlook in the windows version.
[12:11] <JoseStefan> javaJake, nope
[12:11] <javaJake> OK
[12:11] <javaJake> :P
[12:11] <JoseStefan> javaJake, now i am
[12:11] <javaJake> Haha
[12:11] <flyingcircus97> Thanks for the advice, Jose, Xorg is up.
[12:11] <javaJake> Can ya help?
[12:11] <JoseStefan> flyingcircus97, ok np
[12:12] <beloc> hello
[12:12] <beloc> il y a des frenchy
[12:12] <fluvvell> MotorCityMadMan1: any idea of the structure of the .wab file? I don't have one to look at for now. Many things can be converted, its just a matter of by what method.
[12:12] <Dravas> I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that
[12:12] <javaJake> ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY + Direct Rendering enabled = kernel hard crash = HEEEEELP!
[12:12] <JoseStefan> javaJake, dont know :(
[12:12] <Intangir> javaJake: upgrade your driver? or get an nvidia ;)
[12:12] <Intangir> oh its in a laptop isn it..
[12:12] <ali4728> AZzKikR  is it like this?  "this is win file"    "this\ is \ win \file"
[12:12] <javaJake> Intangir, latest kernel (2.16.XX-26-306)
[12:13] <javaJake> Intangir, yes
[12:13] <rnd_null> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 on an Averatec 2200 and am having trouble with the wireless card, anyone able to lend a hand?
[12:13] <AZzKikR> ali4728: yeah
[12:13] <javaJake> rnd_null
[12:13] <MotorCityMadMan1> fluvvell: structure ? how do i know ?
[12:13] <javaJake> Yes
[12:13] <Intangir> update your video drivers too though
[12:13] <ali4728> AZzKikR: thnx
[12:13] <javaJake> Intangir, how?
[12:13] <Intangir> for ati? i have no idea
[12:13] <javaJake> Intangir, I have all updates - xorg (ugh) installed
[12:13] <Intangir> i couldnt figure out how to install proper ATI drivers on this crapp card i got, im using vesa
[12:13] <javaJake> It's the radeon driver that comes with the kernel
[12:13] <Intangir> the video driver, on newer cards comes from ATI somehow
[12:14] <Intangir> older ones have an open source driver you can use
[12:14] <AZzKikR> ali4728: another example:  cp -R /media/windows/Program\ Files ~/myProgramFiles/
[12:14] <javaJake> Well, proprietary ones don't work - they only work on the newer ones
[12:14] <jake1> is there a particular reason why when i am installing Ubuntu from boot CD does only a portion of my screen show up
[12:14] <JoseStefan> javaJake, you might be loading unsupported xorg modules for your gfx card
[12:14] <ubuntu> anu luck?
[12:14] <javaJake> This card is at least 3 years old
[12:14] <jake1> it makes the installer unusable
[12:14] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1: any luck dude?
[12:14] <ubuntu> do u have kmail?
[12:14] <javaJake> JoseStefan, so radeon is unsupported!?
[12:14] <sholden> Has anyone tried setting the hot key for Gnome Deskbar?  I am trying to set the hot key to <ALT>` but it is not working.  I've been toying with it for a while, but can't find any good documentation.  Any suggestions?
[12:14] <javaJake> GLX!?
[12:14] <MotorCityMadMan1> ubuntu: i can install kmail. will that work ?
[12:14] <javaJake> GLcore!?
[12:14] <JoseStefan> javaJake, i mean specific xorg modules
[12:14] <javaJake> Nope
[12:14] <javaJake> Not really
[12:15] <javaJake> They're all pretty generic
[12:15] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1: it has tool called kamilcvt download both, it will convert wab
[12:15] <javaJake> Just took the right configuration to get it to work
[12:15] <ubuntu> :)
[12:15] <AZzKikR> javaJake: radeon is supported, i got a radeon X800 myself
[12:15] <DooMRunneR> does anyone knows a powerfull alternative to rythmbox, not so winamp like things as xmms or beep?
[12:15] <javaJake> AZzKikR, my point exactly
[12:15] <ubuntu> DooMRunneR:  amarok
[12:15] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: how about 'Listen'?
[12:15] <Intangir> DooMRunneR: i heard one called like amoroka or something.. i dont remember..
[12:16] <javaJake> amorak
[12:16] <javaJake> Or something...
[12:16] <javaJake> LOL
[12:16] <AZzKikR> amaroK
[12:16] <Intangir> ya that sounds about right
[12:16] <Dravas> I wanna make it so that Clicking a background window focuses it to the front without having to click on the title of the window how do I do that
[12:16] <javaJake> :P
[12:16] <jake1> if my laptop has a DVD drive does that mean it can boot from DVD
[12:16] <DooMRunneR> i know amarok, but works not good under gnome
[12:16] <Intangir> its supposed to be powerful, and not winamp like
[12:16] <Dravas> Its really annoyunh
[12:16] <jake1> or only CD
[12:16] <MotorCityMadMan1> ubuntu: the motorcitymadman runs over to his box of tools. Plz stand bye
[12:16] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1: kmailcvt it is in synaptic type , apt-get install kmailcvt
[12:16] <javaJake> jake1, depends on your BIOS
[12:16] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: then take a look at Listen
[12:16] <ubuntu> MotorCityMadMan1: ok
[12:16] <mistraal> anyone know how to change the home directory for suexec?
[12:16] <JoseStefan> jake1, usally both cd or dvd, but depends on bios
[12:16] <Intangir> Dravas: does that by default for me..
[12:17] <Dravas> Well Its not for me
[12:17] <Dravas> I have to click on teh edge of the window
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jake, not 100%...
[12:17] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, take one, thank you
[12:17] <javaJake> To check that out, go INTO your BIOS (by pushing the right F1-12 key) and check the boot list
[12:17] <Intangir> Dravas: your on gnome?
[12:17] <Dravas> Intangir yes
[12:17] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, is listen available in the repos?
[12:17] <jake1> javaJake: would you think a computer purchased like two days ago would do that, considering lots of software is on DVD nowadays
[12:17] <Dravas> I am on gnome
[12:18] <Intangir> thats freaky. you musta accidently toggled something for it to do that
[12:18] <Dravas> :\
[12:18] <javaJake> jake1, I'd say, yes, most likely
[12:18] <Intangir> there should be a metacity, or gnome option somewhere to change it back
[12:18] <javaJake> jake1, newer computers do it
[12:18] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: not by default
[12:18] <Dravas> bbl
[12:18] <javaJake> jake1, as long as it IS new, and isn't refurbished, etc.
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: A new computer should boot to DVD but it MUST be set to look at the DVD in the boot sequence... Usually get to bios/cmos with the delete key during the memory check
[12:18] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: but i believe the website provides a repository location, i'll look it up
[12:19] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, cant find anything about it in google
[12:19] <LEMONed_> ok, I seem to of go the livecd to work but I'm still having trouble, ubuntu seems to start up fine and brings me to a red desktop, I hear a login tingle tangle tune and then gives me a red background with a mouse that I can move around.... nothing else I'm a linux noob and was wondering what I've done wrong?
[12:19] <javaJake> Shows how much I know
[12:19] <javaJake> :P
[12:19] <jake1> yea i do know how to make it boot from CD
[12:19] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, cool thank you
[12:19] <javaJake> Well, I'm going to try some other IRC channels
[12:19] <Solkaris> anyone know how to fix a problem with internet connection only partially working?
[12:19] <javaJake> If anyone here is an expert with X or ATI, let me know
[12:19] <javaJake> I'll be on under the name "javaJake" for the next 15 minutes
[12:20] <javaJake> LEAVE #ubuntu
[12:20] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: take a look at http://listengnome.free.fr/ it provides information, screenshots and a repository location for Dapper 6.06
[12:20] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, got it http://listengnome.free.fr/, thanx
[12:20] <javaJake> Rats
[12:20] <DooMRunneR> :D
[12:20] <AZzKikR> no problem :D
[12:20] <JoseStefan> javaJake, try a reconfigure of xserver-xorg, and disable any modules you dont use
[12:20] <jordanau> i want to make a custon ubuntu distro taylored towards a specific business, where would i get started
[12:20] <cjones> jordanau what kind of biz ?
[12:20] <jake1> now on another note........ i tried earlier to install Ubuntu on my AMD 64 Turion ML-32 Acer Aspire 5003WLMi notebook and i got the load screen where it told me to hit 'ENTER' for default installation (or something like that) i did, and then after that the installer only showed up on a small section of my monitor making it impossible to see what i was selecting and what not
[12:21] <ubuntu> later guys
[12:21] <jake1> it also does this on the Live CD
[12:21] <ubuntu> tc
[12:21] <jake1> any ideas of what that could be
[12:21] <jordanau> construction/architecture
[12:21] <jake1> i was considering trying to install it from the alternate installer on the website
[12:21] <jordanau> cjones, ^^
[12:21] <JoseStefan> jake1, you could try that
[12:21] <cjones> jordanau that sounds like fun are you thinking adding some cad stuff?
[12:22] <jordanau> cjones, yeah cad, scheduling, spreadsheet, groupware, accounting etc
[12:22] <jordanau> cjones, interested?
[12:22] <cjones> theres already spreadsheet in ubuntu
[12:22] <John[1] > What is the command to start the xserver in dapper?
[12:23] <AZzKikR> startx?
[12:23] <MotorCityMadMan1> ubuntu> E: Couldn't find package kamilcvt
[12:23] <Intangir> John[1] : what are you trying to do with it?
[12:23] <Intangir> theres different ways to start it
[12:23] <MotorCityMadMan1> kmail installed
[12:23] <jordanau> cjones, yes i know but i would eliminate games, extras, etc
[12:23] <John[1] > start up the gnome desktop.
[12:23] <AZzKikR> isn't gdm used to start the gnome desktop?
[12:24] <jordanau> gdm start or gdm restart
[12:24] <DooMRunneR> AZzKikR, thank you again, thats the thing ive searched for :D
[12:24] <Intangir> gdm starts it up with the login manager
[12:24] <cjones> jordanau have you thought about just starting with debian
[12:24] <BlueEagle> jake1: There is an option for VGA safe mode
[12:24] <AZzKikR> DooMRunneR: no problem :D i am beginning to get interested in Listen myself atm :P
[12:24] <BlueEagle> jake1: hit F4 instead of Enter on the boot screen.
[12:24] <jordanau> yes, but i like the hardware detection of ubuntu
[12:25] <BlueEagle> jake1: or something like that. It's a menu at the bottom of the screen.
[12:25] <Intangir> whats listen?
[12:25] <AZzKikR> Intangir: a music player using GTK
[12:25] <jordanau> cjones, ^
[12:25] <John[1] > is the command start gdm?
[12:25] <Intangir> is it really any better than others? like xmms? i still use xmms hehe
[12:25] <AZzKikR> Intangir: comparable with amaroK
[12:25] <nickerss> I just downloaded the desktop iso of ubuntu how do i get it to run without installing it?
[12:25] <jordanau> John[1] , no gdm start
[12:25] <AZzKikR> John[1] : gdm start
[12:25] <Kragnerac> Hello, I am going to install Ubuntu 6.06 (got the Live CD running right now). I am trying to choose between the ext3, reiser4, and XFS filesystems. My partition size is 33973. I want to know which one would be the most efficient for my partition?
[12:25] <Intangir> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:25] <amee2k> after login something keeps filling up my RAM and swap space, however the system monitor doesn't show anything anormal. how can i find out which process is going wild?
[12:25] <cjones> jordanau well put
[12:25] <Kragnerac> *33973 MB
[12:25] <John[1] > I get command not found
[12:26] <Intangir> Kragnerac: ext3 is most common
[12:26] <AZzKikR> John[1] : like Intangir said: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:26] <JoseStefan> John[1] : or restart instead
[12:26] <Intangir> John[1] : you might want to use stop first just to make sure its dead
[12:26] <synic> amee2k: how do you know?
[12:27] <nickerss> can you really run ubuntu from the .iso without installing?
[12:27] <amee2k> because of the system monitor in my panel
[12:28] <synic> amee2k: what does it say?
[12:28] <Intangir> nickerss: if you get the live CD, yes
[12:28] <nickerss> i got the desktop cd for mac
[12:28] <JoseStefan> nickerss, after burning it to a CD :P
[12:28] <amee2k> user memory: 1.7G of 2G, used swap 850M of 3.8G
[12:28] <nickerss> ohh ok
[12:28] <nickerss> thanks
[12:28] <amee2k> and counting...
[12:28] <nickerss> just boot to it?
[12:29] <amee2k> and that is definitely NOT normal, considering a normal RAM usage of <500M
[12:29] <amee2k> any ideas?
[12:30] <JoseStefan> nickerss, yes
[12:30] <xxpor> is software update screwing up compiz?
[12:30] <amee2k> i'm trying to post a screenshot but that takes time atm
[12:30] <synic> amee2k: you running 64bit?
[12:30] <bbrazil> amee2k: agressive swappiness (tuneable), caching files (normal)
[12:30] <amee2k> yep, 64 bit, AMD64
[12:30] <synic> amee2k: sounds normal to me.
[12:31] <amee2k> NORMAL?!
[12:31] <amee2k> that it spontaneously uses 3 gigs when idle?
[12:32] <synic> amee2k: view the processes and sort by resident memory
[12:32] <amee2k> well, now 4 gigs
[12:32] <JoseStefan> amee2k, i think ubuntu takes up spare memory for caching
[12:32] <amee2k> already tried, even with "all processes", it doesn't show something wrong
[12:33] <JoseStefan> is there a compact way to show the info on "free"
[12:33] <amee2k> JoseStefan: that's NOT caching. cache memory is shown separately
[12:33] <JoseStefan> i'm not running much and i am at: 774808     752812      21996  (total,used,free)
[12:34] <synic> amee2k: what does the top item in that list show for "resident memory" ?
[12:34] <amee2k> 39M
[12:34] <amee2k> that's mozilla atm. trying to post the screenshot
[12:34] <MotorCityMadMan1> just what does this mean ?  ~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 13665, errno = 0
[12:34] <amee2k> next one is nautilus with 28M
[12:35] <MotorCityMadMan1> i think it wood be good if i shorten my user name
[12:35] <Intangir> MotorCityMadMan1: thats bad
[12:35] <MotorCityMadMan1> what is ?
[12:36] <Intangir> MotorCityMadMan1: what are you doing when you get that error?
[12:36] <amee2k> http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmemgk7.png
[12:36] <itrebal> minor issue with my ubuntu installation... i just installed it, and its going through about to configure everything and the like and its on the very first part saying "preparing for installation" after it reboots
[12:36] <JoseStefan> amee2k, try sorting top by mem%
[12:36] <MotorCityMadMan1> Intangir: working with a shell
[12:36] <itrebal> it doesn't respond after a while so i go to tty2 and check on it with 'top' and its taking up 99% CPU and not doing anything
[12:37] <wikijeff> Does anyone know why there isn't an entry for my ALPS touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices ???? My touchpad isn't responding to anything.
[12:37] <amee2k> how do i sort in top?
[12:37] <MotorCityMadMan1> also this / X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:38] <JoseStefan> amee2k, press x, then b, then >
[12:38] <FantasticFoo> is it safe to update to the newer version of X now? or is that update still the shitty one
[12:38] <rredd4> yes
[12:38] <jvai> wow, does adding more applets to the panel use more memory?
[12:38] <jvai> wow..
[12:38] <JoseStefan> amee2k, by default that should end up sorting by mem, you could press h for help
[12:38] <argument> FantasticFoo, that update was fine for me
[12:38] <rredd4> FantasticFoo  do sudo apt-get update    first
[12:38] <amee2k> each keypress on that box takes almost a minute now
[12:39] <Intangir> amee2k: i think something has gone terribly wrong
[12:39] <argument> FantasticFoo, yeh, you'll wanna have the rest of your system up to date anyhow
[12:39] <JoseStefan> amee2k, you might want to sort by cpu too, something is eating up resources
[12:39] <wikijeff> Anyone??? Can anyone even see this??
[12:39] <rredd4> yes
[12:39] <argument> wikijeff, yes
[12:39] <Intangir> MotorCityMadMan1: i always get that when running qt apps, it doesnt seem to mean anything
[12:39] <itrebal> anyone know what might be causing this strange behavior? i've restarted it a few times but its not rixing it
[12:39] <amee2k> the lag is caused by excessive bus I/O
[12:39] <argument> itrebal, hey you use ubuntu too eh?
[12:39] <MotorCityMadMan1> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[12:39] <itrebal> argument: trying :/
[12:40] <itrebal> :)
[12:40] <argument> heheh trying? lol
[12:40] <itrebal> yea - it was going great, supported my usb and sata drives with the stock kernel
[12:40] <MotorCityMadMan1> going to shorten name
[12:40] <x1977x> hi folks,, im new,,. can anyone help me with this: i have a sata HD which is where ubuntu is installed (alone--no windows); i also have ntfs HD (not sata,, whats that, IDE?) with all my stuff on it (just storage, no OS).  when i boot my computer, it fails, unless i press f12 and tell it to boot from the correct HD.. how do i alter the BIOS to have it boot that HD automatically?
[12:40] <itrebal> and then BAM - i restart after the initial installation and it doesn't work
[12:41] <itrebal> x1977x: i'd recommend trying #hardware
[12:41] <gb453> What is the best way to get WPA working in 6.06?
[12:41] <lupine> x1977x: bios should have an option to let you select the default boot device
[12:41] <Intangir> x1977x: just browse around your bios, thers bound to be an option for it
[12:41] <teimu> is it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?
[12:41] <itrebal> argument: its rather irritating :/
[12:41] <x1977x> cool, ty :)
[12:41] <god_> hey guys, can anyone help me with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242132 ?
[12:42] <amee2k> it is snhelper - 1.5g VIRT, 73 %MEM
[12:43] <lhds> hello there. i want to ask about that program that lets you turn on and off the boot modules... what was its name? like hp printing, smb, logging etc
[12:43] <amee2k> what is snhelper and how can i get rid of it?
[12:43] <JoseStefan> amee2k, you can kill it, but i would make sure what it is first
[12:43] <mitch> lhds: bum?
[12:43] <amee2k> never heard of it
[12:43] <itrebal> have you thought about snhelper's feelings?
[12:43] <beowuff> god_ do "ps-ef | grep mysqld". Does it list mysqld?
[12:43] <JoseStefan> itrebal, he will respawn on someone elses computer :D
[12:43] <tomasz27> what do I need to run Dreamweaver in Ubuntu?
[12:44] <itrebal> tomasz27: practice... LOTS of practice
[12:44] <virogenesis> tomasz27, try aptana
[12:44] <god_> god      15012 10750  0 23:44 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysqld
[12:44] <bean-oh> tomasz27, probably wine and free time
[12:44] <synic> tomasz27: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=dreamweavermx
[12:44] <teimu> is it possible to update from breezy to dapper easily? like an installer i could run on breezy and then restart with dapper?
[12:44] <jvai> lol.. Screem's a bettr fit.. & it's in repos
[12:44] <lhds> yes its bum
[12:44] <lhds> thanx for the info
[12:44] <amee2k> itrebal: yes
[12:44] <tomasz27> thank you all
[12:44] <virogenesis> tomasz27,  do you use code view or what?
[12:45] <amee2k> no man page, no which output
[12:45] <itrebal> alright this is seriously bugging me
[12:45] <beowuff> god_ looks like mysql is not running. Check mysql's log. Probably under /var/log/mysql. I don't know as I don't run mysql. Also, try asking on mysql forum/irc.
[12:45] <tomasz27> design and code views
[12:46] <amee2k> hm... seems part of vmware. i'll go and ask there
[12:46] <virogenesis> ahh alright tomasz27  take a look at http://www.aptana.com
[12:46] <itrebal> argument: you wouldn't have any idea on how to get this to work, would you?
[12:46] <god_> beowuff the mysql logs are no help
[12:46] <tomasz27> ok
[12:46] <tomasz27>  thanks
[12:47] <skipp_OSX> hello, need help setting up Ubuntu as an nis client
[12:47] <teimu> dashriKe, dual boot. wine is okay for older games, with some exceptions, but with win, programs run the way they are supposed to. no patching problems, official drivers for vid and aud
[12:48] <teimu> well, now i will rephrase. how should i go about making breezy into dapper?
[12:48] <beowuff> god_ for some reason mysqld is not running. If it was, it should have shown up with the ps-ef | grep mysqld. If it trys to start, it should write to the log file why. You can try /etc/init.d/mysqld start. You will probably have to run it as root.
[12:48] <dashriKe> I wonder if they well release a linux version of it?
[12:48] <skipp_OSX> I have a FreeBSD box setup as an nis server and I have Ubuntu 6.06 setup as a client but for some reason I can't seem to login with any nis users
[12:48] <synic> dashriKe: I wouldn't doubt it.
[12:48] <synic> dashriKe: they've been pretty good about supporting linux
[12:48] <teimu> dashriKe, well, luckily, thats an id game. they usually port thier stuff for us
[12:48] <god_> i've tried that, the result is show in that link i posted
[12:49] <teimu> isnt their some ubuntu_teacher or lessons or school channel?
[12:50] <estaloca> i'm trying to get 3d acceleration working for my ati card on dapper on AMD 64. When i type in fglrxinfo I get "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!".  I followed the guides, no success. Anyone know what I can do?
[12:50] <paroneayea> why on earth did the ubuntu developers decide to have the whole gnome desktop depend on gamin?????
[12:50] <dashriKe> I hope they do
[12:50] <dashriKe> that is a game I plan on actually buying
[12:51] <beowuff> god_ I hate to say it, but this looks like a problem with mysql, and would probably be better delt with by mysql users. Have you tried asking in #mysql?
[12:51] <Flamekebab> arse barbeque, so THAT'S why cipherfunk isn't working any more..
[12:51] <x1977x> itrebal: i checked #hardware and got some really good help.  thanks for the tip!
[12:51] <faux> paroneayea, so that thet can keep track of changes in the filesystem?
[12:51] <Sapaki> hi any help in configuring my wireless adaptor for ubuntu 5.10
[12:52] <paroneayea> faux: I know, but it's a terrible decision.  Not everyone wants it.
[12:52] <jordanau> if i want to install another linux distro all i have to do is resize my present partition right?
[12:52] <god_> thanks beowuff, i'll ask there
[12:52] <faux> paroneayea, why? I find it pretty much essential
[12:52] <tchmnkyz> hey all, i followed the restricted formats page and still dont have a working system to play xvid files what else can i do?
[12:52] <paroneayea> there's no reason it should be a dependency... it should be an option.
[12:52] <cjones_> .quit
[12:52] <estaloca> have anyone successfully installed xgl/compiz?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> estaloca: try #ubuntu-xgl
[12:54] <paroneayea> faux: it both slows things down, and in the project I am working on I have a script which unmounts the device on which the user's home directory resides after they log out... now such a thing can't be done for several minutes after the user logs out due to gamin staring at the home directory for a while
[12:54] <estaloca> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:54] <gnomefreak> estaloca: yw
[12:54] <paroneayea> it also generally slows down the system, so I can't see any reason why it should be essential... it shoudl be optional.
[12:54] <__root___> whats a good text based programe thaTS like xmms that you can run from the command prompt
[12:55] <faux> paroneayea, I thought most locking issues were resolved
[12:55] <tchmnkyz> xmms can be ran from the cmd
[12:55] <synic> __root___: mp3blaster
[12:55] <paroneayea> faux: hm.  Maybe I should update the system.  How long ago were these to have been solved?
[12:55] <__root___> synic i get "unabel to open display"
[12:55] <bubu1uk> __root__: i recommend mp3blaster too. is very nice and good
[12:56] <__root___> bubu1uk can i apt-get install it ?\
[12:56] <John[1] > Looks like I'm stuck again at 15% install.
[12:56] <John[1] > On the desktop install that is.
[12:56] <bubu1uk> __root__: dunno, search for it. i had it on gentoo box
[12:56] <paroneayea> doesn't look like there's any update in the next upgrade
[12:57] <faux> paroneayea, at the time when fam was replaced by gamin, which was pretty long ago
[12:57] <__root___> ok
[12:57] <__root___> thanks
[12:57] <tchmnkyz> anyone with the restricted file formats
[12:57] <__root___> anybody in hera know much about luynks
[12:57] <__root___> links
[12:57] <paroneayea> at any rate, I still think this should be optional
[12:58] <Tonren> Gah... this is the second time my install has hung, on two different parts
[12:58] <Tonren> Once while copying files, and now while "setting upt eh clock"
[12:58] <Tonren> I guess I'll just wait longer
[12:58] <faux> paroneayea, so file a bug about it :)
[12:58] <paroneayea> faux: fair enough
[12:59] <__root___> every time i start links to surf the web i it hangs up at a blinking curser ?
[12:59] <John[1] > well i'm at 33%
[01:00] <John[1] > Wow, made it all the way to 45% now.  This is the 3rd try to install.
[01:02] <riddlebox> hello, if I wanted to upgrade to edgy eft, would I just replace dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy?
[01:02] <bean-oh> anyone familiar with setting up serial devices?
[01:02] <Tonren> Hey guys, what does it mean if my live CD GUI installer hangs?
[01:02] <riddlebox> bean-oh, well I have been working on a serial remote, I may be able to help
[01:02] <Tonren> John[1] : is yours hanging too?
[01:03] <The_Kid123> hey yall, just got ubuntu installed on my old computer
[01:03] <The_Kid123> just don't have it on the 'net
[01:03] <John[1] > My installer has hung about 3 times, its working now.
[01:03] <bean-oh> riddlebox, i have a problem, my serial port (ttyS0) wasn't being detected properly. it was using an "undefined" UART. I poked around a bit, and found the place to hard-code it to 16550A (which it is), and it still won't work with minicom.
[01:04] <The_Kid123> hey yall, got a problem w/ drivers
[01:04] <cjones> how do you take a screen shot when your useing someing like lynx or bitchx ?
[01:04] <riddlebox> bean-oh, you may want to use an app called setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart .....
[01:05] <bean-oh> cjones, i believe bitchx does logging, and i think you can save pages with lynx
[01:05] <bean-oh> riddlebox, yes, tried that too. on boot it doesn't save it, so i set it up in another place. either way, setserial doesn't really help
[01:06] <monteiro> anyone knows a away to disable the touchpad ?
[01:06] <cjones> bean-oh
[01:06] <cjones> bean-oh thanks
[01:06] <riddlebox> bean-oh, sorry then, thats what I had to do to get my lirc drivers to see my irblaster
[01:07] <bean-oh> riddlebox, most i've gotten it to do is flood login prompts from the serial console until the device on the other end gets annoyed at the flood and kills the the connection
[01:07] <lhds> how to make a deb file out of a source file?
[01:07] <wikijeff> Anyone know why there isn't an entry for my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices?? My touchpad isn't working now.
[01:07] <riddlebox> bean-oh, sounds like fun :p
[01:08] <bean-oh> riddlebox, yeah, not much! haha it works 100% fine on my workstation. just doesn't like the serial port on my laptop.
[01:08] <mischko> How do I configure my wireless network card on Ubuntu Server?
[01:08] <mischko> I'm using WPA-PSK and TKIP.
[01:09] <tehsu> I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it freezes at 57%
[01:09] <itrebal> alright i just reinstalled it all and its still failing
[01:09] <itrebal> after i install everything, reboot, and it comes up to finish the installation it stops responding
[01:10] <tehsu> Anyone know why the install freezes?
[01:10] <tehsu> boots up fine into live cd
[01:10] <lhds> after tar xzvf the file i need to install it . i downloaded checkinstall and in ,/configure but it returns no such file or dir whats wrong?
[01:11] <npodges> is there a "configure" file, ihds?
[01:11] <sean> anyone know the cd burner program to burn an iso image?
[01:11] <lhds> there is a single file
[01:11] <rambo3> sean k3b
[01:11] <npodges> sean, gnomebaker too
[01:11] <carthik> sean, in nautilus, right click on the iso and choose burn
[01:11] <npodges> or nautilus
[01:12] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[01:12] <wweasel> I would use natilus if I just wanted to burn an iso, as carthik said.
[01:13] <pushpop> Any Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?
[01:13] <rambo3> pushpop, yes
[01:13] <sean> k
[01:13] <sean> thanks
[01:13] <pushpop> cool, do you use a tuner card or firewire?
[01:13] <Sitouh> Would anyone be willing to help a relative Linux novice set up wpa-supplicant?
[01:14] <Anubuntu> Hello, I need some help, I booted up my system and grub gave me error 17, what does this mean and how does one fix it?
[01:14] <rambo3> ! wifi > Sitouh
[01:15] <wweasel> Sitouh: wpa_supplicant should be already setup in Dapper.
[01:15] <rambo3> Anubuntu, your partition where boot/grub/ is too far for bios to read
[01:15] <misieq> is there a low-level disk checking software? that won't only check partitions but also mbr/whole disk because there seems to be problem with my hdd that fsck can't handle with
[01:15] <mischko> ! wifi > mischko
[01:15] <Sitouh> Dapper?
[01:15] <wweasel> Sitouh: Sorry. In the latest version of Ubuntu.
[01:15] <wweasel> Sitouh: It is preinstalled.
[01:15] <Anubuntu> rambo3: well can you give me a solution, since my windows disk is at the beginning of the drive?
[01:15] <tnzr> Sitouh: what card
[01:16] <Sitouh> tnzr: Airlink 101 PCMCIA
[01:16] <tnzr> does the card show up in iwconfig?
[01:16] <rambo3> Anubuntu, boot from floppy or move ubuntu partition or what ever partition you can put grub on closer to start of disk
[01:16] <wweasel> Sitouh: Does it work fine without WPA?
[01:17] <Anubuntu> rambo3: is there any way to do this without damaging the windows partition?
[01:17] <Sitouh> tnzr: Yes, it does
[01:17] <Anubuntu> rambo3: since its at the beginning of the drive?
[01:17] <pushpop> rambo3: do you use firewire for mythtv or a tuner card?
[01:18] <Sitouh> wweasel: I don't know - I don't have a non-WPA network handy to connect to.
[01:18] <rambo3> pushpop, tuner card
[01:18] <lhds> is there  a utility for applying Blackbox themes to applications ?
[01:18] <wweasel> Sitouh: Are you able to temporarily turn down the security on your router?
[01:18] <pushpop> rambo3: you know anything about configuring it with usb?
[01:18] <pushpop> rambo3: I mean firewire
[01:18] <rambo3> no
[01:19] <rambo3> ask in #mythtv-users or search ubuntu forums
[01:19] <misieq> ! vdr > misieq
[01:20] <justin_> Where can I find the "add/remove" list in Ubuntu - for programs not in Synaptic?
[01:20] <John[1] > I just got a eroor that said grub failed to load or install and then a error that said installer failed.
[01:20] <rambo3> Anubuntu, i dont realy know much about resizing . but its doable
[01:21] <wweasel> justin_: Add/remove won't let you isntall programs that aren't in synaptic
[01:21] <John[1] > What next to fix or is it hosed?
[01:21] <npodges> can someone give me a link on how to theme the screen before gdm launches?
[01:21] <npodges> or explain it
[01:21] <Sitouh> wweasel: Hold on - just got the router password
[01:21] <itrebal> woo! i did a non "expert" install and it works... ijust have to go through and configure things
[01:21] <wweasel> Sitouh: np. I am just wondering if your problem is with WPA, or the network card itself.
[01:22] <justin_> wweasel: Well what I am wondering is - do I have to mentally keep track of all the DEBS I install? - Like the complete file name etc, when I want to un-install them?
[01:22] <wweasel> justin_: Nope. You can remove some things by unticking them in Add/Remove. Synaptic is the most powerful tool though
[01:22] <bbrazil> justin_: if you run aptitude, it'll give you a list of manually installed and obselete debs
[01:23] <wweasel> justin_: You can search through your installed debs and right click and remove any of them you want.
[01:23] <Sitouh> wweasel: It works fine when I boot in Windows
[01:24] <gb453> How can i configure wpa_supplicant to work with a prism 2.5 wavelan (orinoco driver)?
[01:24] <justin_> wweasel: Yes I know how Synaptic works, I am talking about Debs I manually installed that were not in synaptic, bbrazil - Thnks, i'll give it a shot
[01:24] <pushpop> is "make" a valid command in ubuntu?
[01:24] <wweasel> justin_: Synaptic gives them a category all to themselves. Hold on, I'll pull it up
[01:24] <bbrazil> justin_: also, you only need to keep track of the package name, maybe also the version
[01:24] <bbrazil> pushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <wweasel> justin_: Open up Synaptic, on the sidebar on the left see Installed (local or obsolete).
[01:25] <wweasel> justin_: this will have all of your locally installed debs
[01:25] <tehsu> I'm using ubuntu live, and if I try to install, it freezes at 57%
[01:26] <tehsu> Does anyone know why it would freeze?
[01:26] <justin_> wweasel: I do not seem to have this menu in Synaptic
[01:26] <itrebal> tehsu: what kind of install?
[01:26] <Tonren> pushpop: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:26] <tehsu> 6.06.1
[01:26] <beowuff> tehsu, have you tried another disk? Maybe it's a bad burn...
[01:26] <wweasel> Sitouh: Yep. Wireless can be a supreme pain in Linux. But there are two possible problems here if you can't connect to your WPA network. It's possible WPA isn't configured, but I think it may be more likely that the network card isn't properly configured. That's why we should try connecting to something WEP or unencrypted.
[01:26] <tehsu> installing through ubuntu
[01:26] <npodges> sudo aptitude install make
[01:27] <wweasel> justin_: Go to status (below the sidebar).
[01:27] <prat> does anyone know if there is a way to extract/find the .config kernel config info for stock ubuntu kernels?
[01:27] <tehsu> beowuff: i have not, ill try that
[01:27] <tehsu> could it be anything else
[01:27] <pushpop> Tonren: what does that do.
[01:27] <rambo3> prat you mean like one in /boot/
[01:27] <bbrazil> pushpop: should be in /boot
[01:27] <beowuff> tehsu, I can't remember from when I installed, but you may be able to hit CTL F4 to see a console with error messages.
[01:28] <tehsu> ok
[01:28] <npodges> does anyone here use kiba-dock?
[01:28] <justin_> wweasel: Not there, however I have it in console aptitude :)
[01:28] <wweasel> justin_: alright
[01:28] <tehsu> what happens is, it hits 57% the cd and the computer busy light is running and 2 or 3 minutes later it shuts off
[01:28] <justin_> And since I spend most of my time in console, it works out :P thnks
[01:28] <neuroe> hello
[01:29] <beowuff> tehsu, did you burn the cd yourself?
[01:29] <bbrazil> tehsu: bad hdd? Can you do a crtl-alt-f1 ?
[01:29] <prat> rambo3, sweet!  thanks  thats exactly what i was looking for
[01:29] <neuroe> i think i broke something
[01:29] <tehsu> yes i burn't it myself
[01:30] <neuroe> can someone help me?
[01:31] <beowuff> tehsu, I have had to reburn cd's at slower speeds to get older hardware to read them. If you do reburn, try setting the burn speed at 8.
[01:31] <carthik> !ask
[01:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:31] <woodgrain> neuroe, what's up?
[01:31] <neuroe> i tried to move a folder and now my start up themes stoped working, everything looks like it did before but the theme chooser is coming up blank
[01:31] <beowuff> tehsu, however, since it booted, it's reading the cd fine. Could be that it messed up the burn on one package. Does it always stop in the same spot?
[01:32] <npodges> neuroe what theme?
[01:32] <npodges> folder**
[01:32] <woodgrain> neuroe, which folder?
[01:32] <neuroe> the startup themes
[01:32] <neuroe> usr/share/gdm/themes
[01:32] <wweasel> beowuff, tehsu: Have you tried checking the integrity of the CD?
[01:32] <woodgrain> neuroe, can't you just put it back?
[01:32] <neuroe> nothing moved
[01:33] <rambo3> did you move /usr/share/themes
[01:33] <neuroe> i used the command sudo mv -t EarthLights /usr/share/gdm/themes
[01:33] <npodges> you should install the theme using the gui
[01:33] <npodges> in system>admin>login window
[01:33] <neuroe> yea i noticed that but it's too late
[01:34] <MotorCityMadMan1> test
[01:34] <neuroe> the folders are all still there i don't understand what happened
[01:35] <neuroe> both the folder i tried the move and the folders that were in the directory i tried to move them too
[01:35] <npodges> are you sure thats what broke it then, neuroe?
[01:35] <mack> hey
[01:36] <neuroe> the theme chooser has no themes to choose
[01:36] <neuroe> i'm afraid if i reboot that there will be no theme at the login screen and i won't be able to log in
[01:37] <mack> does the "network tools" window in ubuntu support using wpa encryption? it asks for a wep code even though my wireless is set up for wpa
[01:37] <sishgupta> i dont think so mack
[01:37] <sishgupta> use network manager
[01:38] <mack> i see "networking" and "network tools". i'm in "networking" right now
[01:38] <mack> i dont want to leave my wireless in my house on wep. im setting up a wireless webserver
[01:39] <d0nk3y> sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv : It says it could not be satisfied, is there something wrong with that command?
[01:39] <neuroe> npodges, do you know what that command did?
[01:39] <exobuzz> has anyone else come across this bug upgrading dapper to edgy (I wanted to see how edgy was coming along). http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:I8SLIZX_UmEJ:https://launchpad.net/bugs/57121
[01:39] <djmassive> hi, can someone please help me with amaroK?
[01:40] <bruenig> !anyone
[01:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:40] <exobuzz> ok i used anyone. but i included the question. :-)
[01:40] <bruenig> I mean djmassive
[01:41] <exobuzz> aah
[01:41] <bruenig> he used someone
[01:41] <bruenig> but the idea is the same
[01:41] <neuroe> !ask me
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <neuroe> !stuff
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[01:41] <djmassive> amaroK help, anyone?
[01:42] <bruenig> djmassive, ask your question
[01:42] <djmassive> ok...
[01:42] <neuroe> quickly
[01:42] <neuroe> !amaroK
[01:42] <djmassive> How come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...
[01:43] <gunnar> !xgl
[01:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:43] <neuroe> help plz fix my boo boo
[01:43] <taychouri-a> wassup everyone
[01:43] <exobuzz> grr. launchpad is down.. .
[01:44] <eugman> What would be the minimum requirments for a desktopless desktop?
[01:44] <exobuzz> if i reboot i will never get back to X.. what with being half way installed with edgy :/
[01:44] <neuroe> eugman a pentium
[01:44] <taychouri-a> anyone here know how to take my songs from my ipod and put them onto my ubunut
[01:44] <eugman> Cool
[01:44] <djmassive> How come when i load a song into amaroK, it doesn't play? it just says 'playlist finished'...
[01:44] <Miek> eugman: mine runs on a 333MHz AMD K6
[01:44] <exobuzz> djmassive: maybe you dont have the required plugin and it cant play the song
[01:45] <djmassive> i just installed a bunch of plugins.... what ones do i need?
[01:45] <exobuzz> djmassive: check which engine you are using and if it has mp3 support (or whatever the song is your playing)
[01:45] <taychouri-a> MP3
[01:45] <taychouri-a> lol
[01:45] <eugman> Also, I'm curious. Is there any list of equivalent programs like irssi and mutt if I wanted to do that?
[01:45] <exobuzz> you need whatever plugin handles the format you are playing
[01:45] <bruno> oi
[01:45] <neuroe> hrm mp3 maybe?
[01:45] <djmassive> i just need an mp3 plugin
[01:45] <taychouri-a> anyone here know how to sync my ipod to my linux
[01:45] <neuroe> yes mp3
[01:46] <itrebal> would there be any serious issues concering installing linux-image-k7-smp with a K8 board?
[01:46] <trojix> eugman, search a repository or Google for "CLI *prgram*" or whatever.
[01:46] <cafuego> itrebal: no
[01:46] <hth> hi, this is my first try installing ubuntu with soft raid on an array0, i tried to follow the wiki page but didnt work... received kernel error during installation... id like to know how may i do it or have a link to a step by step detailled step to set it up succesfully
[01:46] <eugman> taychouri-a, gtkpod works for me. A search in the forums should have more help.
[01:47] <neuroe> taychorui-a if you get the plugin you can play the songs from the ipod threw your cpu
[01:47] <neuroe> just plug in the ipod
[01:47] <itrebal> cafuego: alrighty
[01:47] <exobuzz> hth. there is a good step by step on the gentoo wiki which i used to help me setup raid
[01:47] <eugman> Oh, I thought he meant the other way.
[01:47] <exobuzz> ok its gentoo, but the information is mostly valid for ubuntu
[01:47] <neuroe> i always come in here looking for help but end up helping the noober noobs
[01:47] <djmassive> i'm using dapper drake, if that helps... what do i need to get so i can get amaroK to play my mp3s?
[01:47] <jake1> ok...... i have been trying all day to get Ubuntu installed, but some reason it isn't working right
[01:47] <jake1> http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg
[01:47] <bruenig> !mp3
[01:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <taychouri-a> so theres no way to put them on the computer?
[01:48] <cafuego> taychouri-a: 'gtkpod' will do it happily.
[01:48] <hth> exobuzz ill take it u have the link.. im not a well experienced linux users i have a copy of ubuntu alternate install right now
[01:48] <neuroe> yaychouri-a, yes there is
[01:48] <taychouri-a> oh ok
[01:48] <taychouri-a> so
[01:48] <jake1> the image of the installation process isn't completely visable
[01:48] <neuroe> if you plug it in you should be able to just copy them
[01:48] <jake1> can someone look at the picture and tell me what they think
[01:48] <taychouri-a> kk well
[01:48] <bruenig> jake1, yeah it looks like the screen resolution is so off that you can't view all of the text
[01:48] <exobuzz> hth: i dont have a link handy but google probably knows where it is. first you have to find the gentoo wiki and then search for "raid howto" :)
[01:48] <taychouri-a> cuz i am goin back to linux
[01:49] <taychouri-a> and i dun wanna lose my 2000 songs
[01:49] <taychouri-a> lol
[01:49] <jake1> bruenig: what can i do about that???
[01:49] <bruenig> don't know
[01:49] <cafuego> taychouri-a: open gtkpod, right click the song (or a selection of songs) and click 'Export'
[01:49] <taychouri-a> kk
[01:49] <taychouri-a> thanks cafuego
[01:49] <taychouri-a> :)
[01:49] <jake1> there has got to be a way to get this installed
[01:49] <neuroe> taychouri-a, do you know how to use synaptic?
[01:49] <bruenig> not even sure that is the problem but looking at it makes me think that might be the problem
[01:49] <SitouhTest> wweasel: Got security turned off, it doesn't seem to be letting me connect
[01:49] <waspius> hi..i just found out what karamba does and how nice it is...if i use a simple desktop such as fluxbox will i be able to use karamba without using allot of resources as i would if i used it in kde?
[01:49] <mack> #1 sign youre getting used to linux: you try to highlight and middle-click to copy/paste...
[01:49] <taychouri-a> remind me what that is neuroe, i havent used linux in a hwile
[01:50] <exobuzz> oh.. launchpad isnt down. my machine is being borked.. that will teach me to try and test edgy out...
[01:50] <jake1> does anyone else know???
[01:50] <neuroe> synaptic package manager
[01:50] <mack> anyway... http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/ should i trust that on how to make my computer accept wpa?
[01:50] <taychouri-a> yeahhh
[01:50] <taychouri-a> that think
[01:50] <taychouri-a> thing
[01:50] <taychouri-a> with
[01:50] <jale2ice> taychouri-a, create a vfat partition for the songs and then mount it when you get linux up and running
[01:50] <taychouri-a> all the installation
[01:50] <tehsu> i forgot who was helping me, i made a new cd.. i burnt it at 4x instead of 44x and testing the install now
[01:50] <taychouri-a> jale2ice, im not that god with computers, lol. i wish i would know how to do that
[01:50] <taychouri-a> good*
[01:51] <bruenig> taychouri-a, copy them all to disk
[01:51] <taychouri-a> i cant!
[01:51] <taychouri-a> its
[01:51] <bruenig> get 15 dvds or something
[01:51] <exobuzz> hmm or maybe not. can someone else tell me if launchpad.net is working ?
[01:51] <taychouri-a> i dun have a dvd drive :)
[01:51] <exobuzz> not sure if I have some weird networking problem. i can ping it. but no http
[01:51] <jale2ice> taychouri-a, get a partition manager (partition magic) or even a linux liveCD and create a vfat partition with the free space you got... move all the songs into the partition then load the linux distro of your choice
[01:51] <taychouri-a> launch pad is wokrin
[01:51] <trojix> Ditto.
[01:51] <exobuzz> oh dear..
[01:52] <kditty> how do you know if you have gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x?
[01:52] <neuroe> well use that to install GTKPod
[01:52] <jake1> well hopefully someone can help me
[01:52] <exobuzz> weird. i can get to google on http but not launchpad!
[01:52] <taychouri-a> sigh jale
[01:52] <jale2ice> taychouri-a, when you do all that and have your linux distro loaded and configured, mount -t vfat /dev/xdax /mnt/share or something of the sort
[01:52] <taychouri-a> lol
[01:52] <taychouri-a> so confusing
[01:52] <bruenig> taychouri-a, get the ubuntu live cd. Boot into and come in here. I can guide you through getting your music on a vfat partition and keeping them safe while the other partition gets formated for ubuntu
[01:52] <hth> i saw that gentoo wiki but its complicated for nothing... i might just need to know how to partition my 2 hd... then create dmraid... but i dont know how to make the partitions... thats my problem i know how to make regular ones.. but not for an array0 raid.. pissing me off since it sounds easyt with the alternate cd
[01:52] <taychouri-a> kk bruenig
[01:52] <taychouri-a> one sec
[01:52] <taychouri-a> cuz
[01:52] <taychouri-a> i used shipit
[01:52] <jale2ice> get a gentoo liveCD
[01:52] <jale2ice> :)
[01:52] <bruenig> that is fine
[01:52] <taychouri-a> and i havend tried it
[01:52] <exobuzz> aha. https is broken..
[01:53] <taychouri-a> so
[01:53] <exobuzz> humph..
[01:53] <taychouri-a> lemme get on it
[01:53] <taychouri-a> and i come back ok
[01:53] <taychouri-a> :)
[01:53] <taychouri-a> thanks brue
[01:53] <hth> jale2ice???
[01:53] <cafuego> kditty: You have gtk 2.x
[01:53] <trojix> E17 in repository?
[01:53] <zirpu> is there an /etc/apt/sources.list tweak that can be used to dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 6.06.1 ?
[01:53] <jale2ice> hth, i'm a gentoo user :/
[01:53] <Harksaw> got a little trouble... I just installed ubuntu on my D945GPM motherboard, and the onboard sound card is acting strangely. The PCM control on the Volume Control does nothing, only the Front control. The sound card works but the volume is almost inaudible on a large stereo. Ideas?
[01:53] <SitouhTest> Could someone help me get a wireless card running?
[01:53] <hth> im not trying to set it up on gentoo but on ubuntu dapper
[01:53] <kditty> ok, thanks
[01:54] <jale2ice> hth, i was kidding... glad you caught it minutes later
[01:54] <bruenig> zirpu, 6.06.1 is 6.06 with all of the accumunlated updates over the past few months
[01:54] <bruenig> so that if you do install now you don't have 190+ updates to install
[01:54] <zirpu> ah. ok. thanks.
[01:54] <jake1> does anyone else have any ideas to why my screen looks like this, and what can i do to fix it
[01:54] <cafuego> hth: If you don't already use the software raid in windows, simply  set the controller to standard ide/sata mode, then use 'md' raid.
[01:54] <hth> jale2ice i not feeling like laughing much but feeling to make it work asap\
[01:55] <jale2ice> hth, yeah...
[01:55] <bruenig> !patience
[01:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:55] <trojix> Does anyone know if E17 is in the repository?
[01:55] <bruenig> !attitude > bruenig
[01:55] <d0nk3y> I need to run the command "qmake" it says command not found? is there some way to add the command?
[01:55] <jale2ice> nice find bruenig :)
[01:55] <hth> cafuego ubuntu isnt installed yet... i was trying to set it up via alternate install disc
[01:56] <tehsu> d0nk3y: run make
[01:56] <bruenig> acse e17
[01:56] <hth> the problem im having is that i dont know how 2 partition my 2 hd to successfully make a array0
[01:56] <d0nk3y> tehsu: http://pastebin.ca/146932
[01:56] <hth> that might be why it doesnt work
[01:56] <d0nk3y> tehsu: I need to allow it to run qmake
[01:57] <bruenig> trojix, what is e17
[01:57] <bruenig> ?
[01:57] <Urban> Can anyone help me. When I try to install Ubuntu, it goes all the way through but then my screen go blank and I get a message saying "Out of frequency range" Is this problem specific to Ubuntu or should I google it?
[01:57] <trojix> bruenig, Enlightenment 17, the window manager.
[01:57] <tehsu> ive never heard of a qmake
[01:57] <bruenig> !info enlightenment
[01:57] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[01:57] <bruenig> it is in universe trojix, do you have universe enabled?
[01:58] <tehsu> !info xchat
[01:58] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[01:58] <trojix> I'm actually sitting on a LiveCD right now, was just curious.
[01:58] <bruenig> oh, well then yes
[01:58] <trojix> Thanks.
[01:58] <tehsu> finally it passed 57%
[01:58] <tehsu> yessssssss!
[02:00] <jordanau> can i safely resize my / partition?
[02:00] <hth> well
[02:00] <Sitouh> wweasel: Yes, my wireless card works when I turn off WPA security
[02:00] <jale2ice> jordanau, yes
[02:00] <beowuff> tehsu, so, it looks like either a corrupt package on the first burn, or just burned too fast for the other cdrom to read...
[02:00] <tehsu> yup
[02:01] <tehsu> i burnt this one at 4x
[02:01] <tehsu> otherone was at max
[02:01] <jordanau> jale2ice, just gun g or qparted from a live cd and reduct the size?
[02:01] <jordanau> reduce *
[02:01] <tehsu> thanx for your help
[02:01] <tehsu> i would've never thought of a bad burn
[02:01] <jale2ice> jordanau, qparted works nice...
[02:02] <jordanau> jale2ice, and nothing special to do, all of my present data is stored at the beginning of the partition?
[02:02] <makro> 
[02:02] <makro> oops
[02:03] <jale2ice> jordanau, i used parted
[02:03] <jale2ice> and it didn't care where the info was
[02:03] <jordanau> great thanks
[02:03] <beowuff> tehsu, is this an older computer your installing on?
[02:03] <tehsu> nope
[02:03] <tehsu> P-M 1.84 Gig Ram 60GB HDD
[02:03] <jale2ice> jordanau, i used tools like resize_reiserfs and fdisk
[02:04] <jale2ice> jordanau, i think it's the best way and it works
[02:04] <tehsu> ok its done
[02:04] <tehsu> brb
[02:05] <jordanau> thank you very much
[02:06] <fyyrest0rm> anyone here have experience with world of warcraft under wine?
[02:07] <Harksaw> what does it mean if someone said they fixed a problem like mine by doing this: ""I used the old kext but with the rev2 plist"
[02:09] <madman-> how do i get my programs ( like kmail ) to show in the app menu ?
[02:09] <bruenig> madman, you mean the notification area or tray?
[02:09] <bruenig> or do you mean the applications menus that has the internet games and graphics submenus among others
[02:10] <madman-> bruenig: the application drop down menu
[02:10] <w30> bruenig, go to the applications menu and pick alacarte menu editor and add it.
[02:10] <pushpop> where is source.list located?
[02:10] <taychouri-a> k im on linux
[02:10] <MatthewV> pushpop, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <bruenig> madman-, yeah you can add them via alacarte menu editor
[02:10] <madman-> bruenig: yes that one
[02:10] <madman-> looking
[02:10] <pushpop> thanks
[02:10] <taychouri-a> bruenig: im on linux now. wanna help me out.
[02:11] <pushpop> and how do I get the command "qmake" isntalled?
[02:11] <w30> bruenig, Gnome desktop although KDE has a menu editor too.
[02:11] <bruenig> taychouri-a, go to system>administration>Gnome partition editor
[02:11] <DaveyJ> i'm installing kde along side gnome.. how do i run kde on another screen?
[02:11] <bruenig> w30, I didn't know if he was using kde
[02:11] <bruenig> he may be using kmail in gnome
[02:11] <taychouri-a> bruenig: k yo. i got that up
[02:11] <bruenig> if he was using kde, seems like he would be in #kubuntu
[02:12] <bruenig> taychouri-a, how many partitions does it show?
[02:12] <madman-> bruenig: very nice , thank you
[02:12] <bruenig> np
[02:12] <taychouri-a> bruenig: 2, (Unallocated 7.5mb, and something elsee called ntfs 38gb
[02:12] <w30> bruenig, yeah gets confusing don't it. kubuntu, gunbuntu and kubuntu. oh well
[02:12] <dffd> is there a list of wifi cards that ubuntu supports?
[02:13] <Faithful> I can login with ftp-ssl ok and cwd but I cannot do ls it says "ftp: bind: Address already in use" now I know this is because it is bound to port 21 for security reasons but I don't seem to be able to get it to work
[02:13] <bruenig> taychouri-a, ok,  how big is your music collection as far as mb is concerned
[02:13] <duaneb> auuugh
[02:14] <taychouri-a> umm, well i think its at
[02:14] <taychouri-a> 15gb, so 15000mb?
[02:14] <bruenig> wow
[02:14] <duaneb> I keep getting this error: digest veification failed, /usr/protage/kbproto-1.0.2
[02:14] <taychouri-a> lol, i know
[02:14] <duaneb> reason: filesize issn't what it expected
[02:14] <duaneb> how can i fix this?
[02:14] <taychouri-a> i love music
[02:14] <taychouri-a> :)
[02:14] <foxjwill_> how do I make a windows ntfs partition writable? right now it's read-only
[02:14] <pushpop> Any Ubuntu's Users use MythTV ?
[02:15] <bruenig> ok, so right click on the ntfs one and click resize, make it 22 GB, 38-15= 23 -1 just to make sure = 22 GB
[02:15] <Ktron> #xorg is dead, damn-- I think its safe to assume that ubuntu cannot be run on my machine
[02:15] <Ktron> er, Xorg cannot be run on my machine
[02:15] <foxjwill_> any ideas
[02:15] <foxjwill_> ?
[02:15] <duaneb> anyone?
[02:15] <duaneb> I really need to use emerge
[02:16] <bruenig> foxjwill, there is some experiment ntfs writing on linux
[02:16] <bruenig> !ntfs
[02:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:16] <w30> DaveyJ,  i have done that but its been so long ago. It entails passing the display option of something like -display 0:1 instead of the default 0:0 to X
[02:16] <foxjwill_> thanks
[02:16] <bruenig> but I am not sure how reliable it is
[02:16] <DaveyJ> so technically i can run two different desktops on two different monitors?
[02:16] <foxjwill_> what do you mean by '!fuse"?
[02:16] <profoX`> foxjwill_: it's not advised.. but the best thing until now is ntfs-3g I think
[02:16] <foxjwill_> ok
[02:16] <bruenig> !fuse
[02:16] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:16] <taychouri-a> bruenig: It wont let me resize under 28gb
[02:17] <bruenig> taychouri-a, dang, that means more work
[02:17] <profoX`> foxjwill_: bruenig: that looks a bit out of date
[02:17] <bruenig> resize it to 28 gb
[02:17] <taychouri-a> k
[02:17] <taychouri-a> done
[02:17] <profoX`> foxjwill_: bruenig: there is ntfs-3g that is more reliable/fast, but it's also still alpha/beta
[02:17] <profoX`> I would NOT advise writing on NTFS yet
[02:17] <profoX`> unless in windows :)
[02:17] <foxjwill_> ok
[02:17] <bruenig> taychouri-a, open up a terminal, applications>accessories>terminal
[02:18] <foxjwill_> i guess i'll stick to copying the files
[02:18] <taychouri-a> k
[02:18] <foxjwill_> thanks though
[02:18] <profoX`> foxjwill_: you can READ from ntfs fine
[02:18] <profoX`> just write support isn't all that good yet
[02:18] <w30> DaveyJ, I had two GUI screens going with the ctl-alt-F8 F7 or whatever. I don't know about different monitors
[02:18] <bruenig> taychouri-a, sorry I skipped a few steps
[02:18] <foxjwill_> i know
[02:18] <profoX`> it should get better in a few months foxjwill_
[02:18] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:18] <taychouri-a> k
[02:18] <foxjwill_> profox: i know
[02:18] <DaveyJ> is it processor intensive?
[02:18] <foxjwill_> profox: i hope so
[02:18] <profoX`> foxjwill_: :) (blame microsoft!)
[02:18] <bruenig> taychouri-a, go back into gparted. And right click the extra space and hit new
[02:19] <izirku> shorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?
[02:19] <taychouri-a> the unallocated?
[02:19] <bruenig> no the new stuff that you just created out of the ntfs
[02:19] <bruenig> which is also unallocated. not the 7.5 mb, the 10 gb
[02:19] <taychouri-a> what new stuff, i have the same things, except ones 10 gb, and ones 27gb
[02:19] <foxjwill_> profox: Gates' mother was a hampster and his father smelt of elderberries
[02:20] <bruenig> right click on the 10 gb one
[02:20] <taychouri-a> kk
[02:20] <taychouri-a> i pressed new
[02:20] <bruenig> make it logical and make the file format fat32, I think they call it fat32
[02:20] <bruenig> if it doesn't say fat32 or there is a vfat option under filesystem, choose vfat
[02:20] <taychouri-a> it wont let me call it logical
[02:20] <profoX`> foxjwill_: what? ._.
[02:20] <profoX`> lol
[02:20] <wikijeff> Any idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.
[02:21] <profoX`> taychouri-a: logical / extended / ...?
[02:21] <bruenig> taychouri-a, ok, well, you are going to get rid of that ntfs partition eventually right?
[02:21] <taychouri-a> yeah
[02:21] <taychouri-a> cuz
[02:21] <bruenig> ok call it primary
[02:21] <taychouri-a> k i added i
[02:21] <bruenig> it is formatted at fat32?
[02:21] <bruenig> or vfat or whatever
[02:21] <taychouri-a> yeah
[02:21] <bruenig> ok
[02:21] <taychouri-a> fat32
[02:22] <foxjwill_> profox: haven't you seen the Holy Grail?
[02:22] <bruenig> what is the name of the 10 gb and 27 gb partitions. SHould be something like /dev/something
[02:22] <francais> salut
[02:23] <taychouri-a> the 27gb is /dev/hdc1, and the 10gb is New Partition #1
[02:23] <profoX`> foxjwill_: no..
[02:23] <francais> hi
[02:23] <bruenig> it doesn't have another name except new partition one?
[02:23] <bruenig> taychouri-a, ok yeah hit apply
[02:23] <taychouri-a> no
[02:23] <taychouri-a> k its doin it
[02:23] <bruenig> it is up at the top of the gui
[02:23] <francais> how are you going
[02:23] <Jbirk> I need shorewall configureation help
[02:23] <Jbirk> any shorewall experts?
[02:24] <bruenig> once it applies it should give it a name, tell me that when it does
[02:24] <taychouri-a> k
[02:24] <taychouri-a> they are btoh
[02:24] <annarave> just wanted to say thanks to the folks who helped me earlier today on my partitioning.
[02:24] <SillyZ> evening, could someone send me a plain jane default smb.conf from with ubuntu instllation or a kubuntu install?
[02:24] <taychouri-a> (/dev/hdc1
[02:24] <taychouri-a> but
[02:24] <francais> hi
[02:24] <annarave> hi everyone
[02:24] <taychouri-a> one is 38gb, and one is 7 mb, and the 38gb is unknown type
[02:24] <foxjwill_> profox: Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
[02:25] <bruenig> taychouri-a, it didn't create a 28 gb and 10 gb?
[02:25] <taychouri-a> nope
[02:25] <profoX`> foxjwill_: no i havent seen it.. it's an old movie.. i've seen alot of monty sketches but not that movie
[02:26] <bruenig> ok tray to partition it again. Keep the ntfs partition a little bigger. It might not like such a drastic resize
[02:26] <bruenig> try*
[02:26] <james_xxx> does anyone in here use a linksys wusb54g wireless adapter? OR a wusb54gs? i have both..
[02:26] <taychouri-a> yeah
[02:26] <bruenig> do all the same stuff. make ntfs 30 and new fat32 8 gb
[02:26] <taychouri-a> i think i jsut fucked up my frives
[02:26] <taychouri-a> drives
[02:26] <taychouri-a> cuz
[02:26] <taychouri-a> it wont let me make a new one
[02:26] <foxjwill_> profox: you have to see it
[02:27] <bruenig> right click on the ntfs and hit resize
[02:27] <taychouri-a> or resize
[02:27] <taychouri-a> its messe dup man
[02:27] <bruenig> well hit reload
[02:27] <annarave> nomego was really helpful earlier. thanks.
[02:27] <taychouri-a> i did
[02:27] <Don_jr> I'm back and having trouble with installing Ubuntu
[02:27] <annarave> Don_jr: what problem are you having?
[02:27] <bruenig> all of your data is still there
[02:27] <bruenig> try closing and reopening it
[02:28] <profoX`> foxjwill_: well .. ok .. if i see it in the videostore i'll buy it ;p
[02:28] <Don_jr> I clicked on the install button while in live CD mode, window popped up saying 'install' in the header, window is blank other than that and the disk has stopped responding.
[02:28] <taychouri-a> kk brue
[02:28] <taychouri-a> listen to what i did
[02:28] <taychouri-a> i fixed it
[02:28] <taychouri-a> but
[02:28] <taychouri-a> listen
[02:28] <taychouri-a> my ntfs
[02:28] <taychouri-a> is now 21gb
[02:28] <bruenig> !enter
[02:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:28] <Corporal_Dirge> Hello, anyone have experience with pw protected rar files in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <Fearo> I have a problem with my Apache. My www is /home/user/dev/www and each time i add a new file, i need to set the CHMOD back. Is there a way to auto set all  chmod to 755?
[02:29] <SillyZ> can someone send a default smb.conf from a kubuntu or ubuntu installation, I need one to compare it to the xfce installation
[02:29] <wikijeff> Any idea why my touchpad isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices??? My touchpad stopped working suddenly and I think that's the problem.
[02:29] <bruenig> get to the point where you have two partitions, they are both named. One is ntfs and one is fat32. Tell me the name.
[02:29] <annarave> ah. well, good luck on it. i've gotta run my son to a school dinner now. good luck. ciao
[02:29] <Don_jr> ubuntu needs fat32 to install or ntfs?
[02:30] <bruenig> sillyZ where is the smb.conf file
[02:30] <Madpilot> Don_jr, neither. Default format is ext3
[02:30] <c0nfidencal> ext3, reiserfs...
[02:30] <bruenig> taychouri-a, are you still there
[02:30] <Don_jr> So if I"m trying on a fat32 system that will cause a problem?
[02:30] <Don_jr> maybe that why it locked up on me?
[02:31] <taychouri-a> K listen to what i have,  NTFS - 21.65 gb (/dev/hdc1) FAT32- 16.63gb (/dev/hdc3) fat32- 7.84mb (/dev/hdc2)
[02:31] <Fearo> Can someone help me? Each time I add a new file in my /home/user/dev/www folder, i need to chmod it. Is there a way to auto-chmod it?
[02:31] <bruenig> taychouri-a, that is good
[02:31] <taychouri-a> k, i already hit apply
[02:31] <bruenig> taychouri-a, open up that terminal
[02:31] <Corporal_Dirge> Does anyone know how to put a pw in for a rar file?
[02:31] <SillyZ> bruenig, usually in /etc
[02:31] <taychouri-a> kk its open
[02:32] <neuroe> hiya
[02:32] <PMantis> Is vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?
[02:32] <bruenig> do the following commands "mkdir hdc1" "mkdir hdc3"
[02:32] <tehsu> How do I get native resolution
[02:32] <izirku> shorewall question: I have 2 interfaces: eth0 - dynamic, net card, and eth1 -dynamic, wireless routed through a broadband router WRT54G, what my configuration should be setup like?
[02:32] <tehsu> I set it fine, but the screen doesnt want to change
[02:32] <Madpilot> Don_jr, if you're installing Ubuntu, it will want to reformat a partition to ext3 (at least one partition)
[02:32] <taychouri-a> k i entered them
[02:32] <SillyZ> bruenig, sorry went to go grab a cup of coffee, Im just trying to prove theory here, cuz smb networking is fine under ubuntu and kubuntu, but the smb.conf in xubuntu either dosent exist or is there but blank
[02:33] <neuroe> smb3 is sweet
[02:33] <bruenig> sillyz, i don't see a smb.conf under /etc
[02:33] <SillyZ> try /etc/smb
[02:33] <bruenig> taychouri-a ok. do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/hdc1"
[02:33] <abaddon> okay I have a question regarding instlalling using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and it still doesn't boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent
[02:33] <bruenig> ls | grep smb gives nothing
[02:34] <abaddon> can anyone help me?
[02:34] <bruenig> that while in /etc
[02:34] <Don_jr> Okay, why would it freeze up on me? any clue?
[02:34] <bruenig> I did locate smb.conf but that is under a samba directory is that what you want
[02:34] <SillyZ> bruenig, sorry its /etc/samba/smb.conk
[02:34] <SillyZ> err conf
[02:34] <neuroe> did yo use a nes emulator?
[02:34] <taychouri-a> bruenig: When i put ~hdc1, it said it didnt exist, i took out the ~ and it worked, but it didnt say it did anything, the cd drive made a sound and thats it
[02:35] <SillyZ> thanks bruenig
[02:35] <bruenig> taychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc1
[02:35] <bruenig> taychouri-a, it should have been ~/hdc1 not ~hdc1
[02:35] <bruenig> sorry I was getting ready for the next command
[02:36] <jjazz> Hi, I'm trying to umount a dvd, but keep getting told /media/cdrom0: device is busy.  I can't figure out what is keeping it busy.  How can I umount it?  Thanks.
[02:36] <viator_> im trying to build  qemu fromt i have source its complaing  that i have gcc 4X and  it wants 3X
[02:36] <bruenig> taychouri-a, but it doesn't matter the other command works too but only because you are in the directory that you are in
[02:36] <bruenig> so don't worry about it
[02:36] <viator_> whats the proper package name to install it?
[02:36] <taychouri-a> kk i entered the next thing
[02:36] <Ranbee> can someone tell me the name of the program which show how HDD space in pictures, please?
[02:36] <foxjwill_> jjazz: is that your dvd drive?
[02:36] <bruenig> taychouri-a, now do "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc3 hdc3"
[02:36] <jjazz> foxjwill_: yes
[02:37] <taychouri-a> k
[02:37] <SillyZ> bruenig, now lets see if theory works
[02:37] <viator_> whats the name of the package to install gcc 3x ?
[02:38] <tehsu> I have an X700 and the native resolution is a 1680x1050 but it wont set to that any ideas?
[02:38] <bruenig> taychouri-a, ok now go up to the menu again and go to places>home folder, there should be two directories in there called hdc1 and hdc3
[02:38] <taychouri-a> yeah
[02:38] <taychouri-a> therse 2
[02:38] <foxjwill_> jjazz: well then. I'm not completely sure. sorry.
[02:38] <bruenig> taychouri-a, the hdc1 has your ntfs, the hdc3 has your fat32, open the ntfs and find your music and copy and paste it into the hdc3 or fat32
[02:39] <abaddon> sorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive
[02:39] <jjazz> foxjwill_: Ok, thanks
[02:39] <taychouri-a> It says " You don't have permission necessary to view the contents of HDC1
[02:39] <jake1> errrrrrrrrr
[02:39] <jake1> this is frustrating
[02:39] <viator_> it wont allow that resolution under system>prefrences>screen resolution?
[02:40] <jake1> so much documentation but none address my problem
[02:40] <Don_jr> okay, ubuntu sticks when I'm trying to install....any ideas as to what I can do to troublshoot this problem?
[02:40] <bruenig> taychouri-a, that is bothersome, go back into the terminal and do gksudo nautilus
[02:40] <bruenig> then within that window do the copying and pasting
[02:41] <taychouri-a> it now says
[02:42] <taychouri-a> in the terminal " why connection to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : Non of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."
[02:42] <bruenig> yeah but did the window pop up?
[02:42] <Don_jr> should I try and install from safe graphics mode? or normal install?
[02:43] <bruenig> that is a bug. It doesn't mean anything
[02:43] <taychouri-a> yeah it popped out
[02:43] <taychouri-a> its in root
[02:43] <bruenig> ok, click file system on the left. then go to home. then  ubuntu, your stuff should be in there
[02:44] <bruenig> once in there go into the ntfs stuff find your music directory. Copy it and then go back and then into your fat32 and paste it
[02:44] <grout58> how can i format a drive from the command line
[02:44] <taychouri-a> i go into hdc1
[02:44] <taychouri-a> and it says 0 items
[02:44] <abaddon> sorry to just barge in with a question but I need help, okay I have a question regarding installing using usb.  I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and I cannot get ubuntu to boot.  I get to a point and it says boot: linux not found or something to that extent; can anyone help me?  I cannot install from live cd because I do not have cd drive have not found anything usefull on the forums.
[02:45] <taychouri-a> and thers a lock sign on hdc1
[02:45] <bruenig> taychouri-a, when you miraculously resized it before to 21, you never deleted it right. You only resized right?
[02:45] <taychouri-a> yupp
[02:45] <taychouri-a> i never pressed delete
[02:46] <bruenig> so you go into hdc1, and there is nothing in that directory?
[02:46] <taychouri-a> nothin man
[02:46] <taychouri-a> i was 27gb out of 38
[02:46] <taychouri-a> is that why is only let me make 10 gb that time?
[02:46] <bruenig> it should not resize it below how much diskspace was used in it
[02:47] <taychouri-a> yeah, well i forced it to, cuz you told me
[02:47] <Don_jr> Okay, if I run ubuntu live CD mode, will the CD ever slow down while it's running that way if I don't touch it?
[02:47] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:47] <bruenig> not true
[02:47] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do I share files between two Ubuntu machines using "NFS"?
[02:47] <bruenig> ok taychouri-a, go back into the terminal and type "cd hdc1"
[02:47] <bruenig> then type ls
[02:47] <bruenig> "ls"
[02:48] <bruenig> tell me what the output is.
[02:48] <taychouri-a> Permission Denied
[02:48] <bruenig> sudo cd hdc1
[02:48] <bruenig> then ls
[02:48] <taychouri-a> cd command not found
[02:48] <Don_jr> lib/firmware/mrv8k-b.fw error loading for device /class/firmware/00000:02:00.0' with driver mrv8k
[02:48] <bruenig> cd command not found?
[02:49] <taychouri-a> yea
[02:49] <bruenig> how is that possible. Do cd /
[02:49] <taychouri-a> that worked
[02:49] <bruenig> lol
[02:49] <taychouri-a> sith
[02:49] <taychouri-a> sigh
[02:49] <bruenig> the command appears to be found now
[02:49] <taychouri-a> why do i have such bad luck
[02:49] <bruenig> ok do "cd"
[02:49] <Don_jr> anyone tell me what that error means?
[02:49] <bruenig> then do ls, tell me the output
[02:50] <taychouri-a> i got lots of blue words
[02:50] <bruenig> those words being
[02:50] <bruenig> was hdc1 and hdc3 amongst them?
[02:50] <Tonren> Guys, does the Share Folders GUI actually work??
[02:50] <taychouri-a> nope
[02:50] <taychouri-a> i got
[02:51] <taychouri-a> bin cdrom etc initrd lib mnt proc root srv tmp var boot dev home initrd.img media opt rofs sbin sys usr vmlinux
[02:51] <bruenig> you didn't get opt home etc boot usr, etc did you?
[02:51] <taychouri-a> linuz
[02:51] <bruenig> taychouri-a, do "cd"
[02:51] <bruenig> you must do cd first to get to the right directory
[02:51] <bruenig> then do ls
[02:51] <taychouri-a> k
[02:51] <Don_jr> Damn, I cannot get this to install....
[02:51] <andax> Tonren, install "nfs-kernel-server" package, then have a look at /etc/exports (this file contains what and how you share) , then use "mount ipaddress:/shared/folder " on the other box to mount the exported folders
[02:51] <bruenig> !alternate
[02:51] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[02:51] <taychouri-a> now i get
[02:51] <bruenig> try that don
[02:52] <taychouri-a> desktop hdc1 hdc3
[02:52] <bruenig> that is how it should be
[02:52] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?
[02:52] <bruenig> ok do cd hdc1
[02:52] <taychouri-a> permission denies
[02:52] <Tonren> andax: Should I not bother with the GUI?
[02:52] <Don_jr> I'm no expert and wouldn't know the commands to use in a text based installation if I had it....lol
[02:52] <mistraal> anyone know how to change the default home directory for suexec on Apache2?
[02:52] <andax> Tonren, sorry I can't help you with the gui
[02:53] <Tonren> andax: It's OK< I prefer doing things CLI anyway
[02:53] <taychouri-a> it lets me go to hdc3 but not hdc1
[02:54] <bruenig> taychouri-a, see if this works. "chown -R ubuntu hdc1"
[02:54] <bruenig> add sudo in front of that
[02:54] <bruenig> sudo chown -R ubuntu hdc1
[02:54] <taychouri-a> Chaangiing ownership of 'HDC1'
[02:54] <bruenig> after that do cd hdc1
[02:55] <Don_jr> okay, totally wiped and formatted HD I'm trying to install on from teh ubuntu live CD download.  Should I wait till it is completely done loading the live CD session efore I run the install?
[02:55] <taychouri-a> still permistion denied
[02:55] <bruenig> don_jr, yeah, double click the desktop icon once it does
[02:55] <falkon> I just read through the FAQ pages, and I didn't see the answer I need.  Can you use the unofficial debian repositories [www.debian-multimedia.org]  with ubuntu?
[02:55] <taychouri-a> oh
[02:55] <taychouri-a> after the change
[02:55] <taychouri-a> ion owner ship
[02:55] <taychouri-a> it says
[02:55] <argument> anyone know how i can get 4front oss to work with esd?
[02:55] <taychouri-a> read only
[02:56] <bruenig> but you can go in it?
[02:56] <taychouri-a> no
[02:56] <taychouri-a> it denies permsion
[02:56] <bruenig> one last shot here "sudo chmod 77 -R hdc1"
[02:56] <bruenig> sudo chmod 777 -R hdc1
[02:56] <Tonren> andax: How could I tell hosts.allow to only allow a specific user on a specific hostname on the local network?
[02:57] <taychouri-a> changing permissions of hdc1: read only file system
[02:57] <riddlebox> do I need python-pythoncard?
[02:57] <frioloco> anyone know of a tutorial for dvd->xvid in ubuntu?
[02:57] <bruenig> can you cd into it now
[02:57] <taychouri-a> nnope
[02:57] <Don_jr> Okay, how will I know when the live CD is done with it's setup?  Will the disk quiet down a bit?
[02:57] <taychouri-a> my files are gone arent they
[02:57] <taychouri-a> sigh
[02:58] <bruenig> you can still do it. But you can only move over the files after install. Which might actually be easier
[02:58] <taychouri-a> isnt there a way
[02:58] <taychouri-a> to take it off my ipod
[02:58] <bruenig> taychouri-a yeah
[02:58] <bruenig> do you have them on your ipod
[02:58] <janbanan> Does anyone know if there is a guide on how to make a program "bar" that look like the one on the bottom of this picture? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26448&file1=26448-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=nuoveXT
[02:58] <taychouri-a> yes
[02:58] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:58] <bruenig> wtf
[02:58] <duaneb> eeeugh
[02:59] <viator_> ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output
[02:59] <viator_> To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check
[02:59] <viator_> Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card.
[02:59] <Don_jr> if Ubuntu will not load, is there another decent version of *nix system I can try out?
[02:59] <duaneb> emerge needs a progress bar or something
[02:59] <viator_> whoops
[02:59] <viator_> i know pastebin
[02:59] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to extract pw protected rar files?
[02:59] <taychouri-a> Corporal_Dirge:  Why are files passworded?
[02:59] <viator_> anyone know what sdl package to install to get rid of that error?
[03:00] <bruenig> ok, restart your computer. When it boots up double click the install button, Wipe the whole drive and install. If you need help moving the music off the ipod afterwards. Come in here I guarantee you somebody can help you there as popular as that stuff is
[03:00] <Tonren> Hey, what channel would I head to if I wanted to ask some general questions about networking, network permissions, etc. on GNU servers?
[03:00] <taychouri-a> kk
[03:00] <taychouri-a> man thanks
[03:00] <taychouri-a> so i gotta delete the apritions
[03:00] <taychouri-a> and shti
[03:00] <taychouri-a> kk
[03:00] <Corporal_Dirge> taychouri-a, I archived it, but I can't remember the pw.. But I'm more interested in how to use Linux to open it
[03:00] <mneptok> janbanan: use E's Engage app, or adesklets or gdesklets
[03:00] <bruenig> taychouri-a, it will do it in the install
[03:01] <bruenig> you can delete them if you want with gparted but it doesn't really matter because it will do it in the install
[03:01] <andax> Corporal_Dirge, go to www.rarsoft.com , download the linux console version, tar -xzvf rar-xxx.tgz, make install, then you'll have the 'unrar' command. When extracting pw protected files (unrar x whatever.rar) it will ask for the password.
[03:01] <taychouri-a> Corporal_Dirge: Oh ok! :) I thought you were trying to open something that wasn't yours  :P
[03:01] <janbanan> mneptok: thanks mate
[03:01] <viator_> !kqemu
[03:01] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[03:01] <taychouri-a> well brb! Ic ant wait for this!
[03:01] <slid3r> any one know the quick and dirty wayo to handle the totem error :: No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[03:01] <Tonren> Is there a way to give NFS permissions ONLY to a specific COMPUTER - not IP address?
[03:01] <Corporal_Dirge> andax, ok, thanks. I have the rar plugin for Archive manager, but the pw field was always grey and didn't allow pw entry,.
[03:02] <fyyrest0rm> how can i use adept to browse categories (games, internet, etc)?
[03:02] <andax> Corporal_Dirge, i guess you'll have to use the console version :(
[03:02] <fyyrest0rm> or is it even possible?
[03:02] <Corporal_Dirge> adax, so just unrar <pw> file?
[03:02] <tapio_> How come ubuntu doesn't have software mixing by default?
[03:02] <andax> Corporal_Dirge, unrar x something.rar , and it will ask for the password
[03:03] <Corporal_Dirge> adax, What's the x for?
[03:03] <andax> Corporal_Dirge, eXtract :)
[03:03] <pluma> Is there a way to resize a mounted partition?
[03:03] <Corporal_Dirge> adax, it's not -x? I'll try it now.
[03:03] <w30> janbanan, the bar is standard gnome configured in the panel prefs menu. the icons will have to ge gotten from gmom-look,org or wherever....
[03:03] <jake1> these documentations are useless.....
[03:04] <skarface> how do I override icons that were changed by a theme, specifically those for applciations on the gnome panel?
[03:04] <jake1> anyone have any idea why only part of my screen works when i am trying to install Ubuntu.... this makes it impossible to install ubuntu since i can't see what i am doing...... any help would be appreciated
[03:04] <andax> Corporal_Dirge, type it exactly like this: "unrar x something,rar" then give the correct password, and it will unrar the archive with full paths stored
[03:04] <jake1> http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/num1nm4c/Laptop.jpg
[03:04] <w30> janbanan, using options like hide handles, center color choices etc. You can play all day :=)
[03:04] <jake1> that is a photo of what i am talking about
[03:05] <tehsu> What is wrong if the resolution wont set correctly?
[03:05] <janbanan> w30: Do you know if there are any tips & tricks page?
[03:05] <falkon> screw it, debian time
[03:07] <w30> no, but I got a bar configured like that by playing half a day and using icon sets downloaded from gnome-look.org. I think the icons were called believe it or not osx
[03:07] <pluma> Anyone?
[03:08] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, when my screensaver turns on, or I try to change which screensaver I want to use, my system freezes up on me and I have to force a shutdown and reboot.
[03:08] <TLE_02> I'm looking for a command to cut a piece out of an audiofile with, any suggestions ?
[03:08] <andax> jake1, i am not sure but as no one else is answering... try passing a "vga=771" parameter to the kernel while booting the installer, but that's just a guess. (that's how I installed it on my laptop)
[03:08] <taychouri-1> Can someone help me with partitions?
[03:09] <jake1> how would i do that andax?
[03:09] <dasteve2> Does anyone have experience setting up widescreen displays to display native resolution in X?
[03:10] <bitblit> hi all; i'm trying to use gconf-editor, but when i make changes they dont persist. specifiaclly, i am trying to add the 'water' plugin to compiz :)
[03:10] <w30> janbanan, I recomend that you create a new user account and play with it in case you want to go back to something standard and can't get there. Ha! been there,etc.
[03:10] <taychouri-1> How can i make 2 partitions come together
[03:10] <dasteve2> delete one and extend the other
[03:11] <VOYAGER> without loosing data ?
[03:11] <wweasel> I am experiencing a very ood problem right now. I just plugged in my iRiver, but it seems that Gnome's panels and such have crashed. Rhythmbox launched and stopped working. Everything seemed dead, but I launched a terminal using a keyboard shortcut and launched x-chat. help?
[03:11] <taychouri-1> no i wanna install ubuntu
[03:11] <taychouri-1> but
[03:11] <taychouri-1> one sec
[03:11] <w30> taychouri-1, have you got stuff on them that you want to keep?
[03:11] <mike_> hi hi
[03:11] <taychouri-1> i cant get it off
[03:11] <taychouri-1> cuz i want my msuic
[03:11] <taychouri-1> but
[03:12] <janbanan> w30: Ok. thanks. I've done it once on breezy but can't remember how I did it. there was a guide on the forum but I cant find it
[03:12] <taychouri-1> i am gunna take my msuic off my ipod?
[03:12] <taychouri-1> isnt that better?
[03:12] <viator_> !sdl
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <taychouri-1> I just want 1 partition
[03:13] <andax> jake1, i can't remember exactly but when the install CD boots up, and the first screen appears (when you choose to install , safe graphic mode etc) try pressing keys from F1 to F8 , and additional install options will be displayed.
[03:13] <dasteve2> as far as i know there is no way of joining partitions that doesnt lose data, you should back up the data of one partition, delete it, and extend the other, using a bootable cd with a partition manager
[03:13] <taychouri-1> how can i add the un allocated tot he ntfs
[03:13] <jake1> oh ok
[03:13] <jake1> i will try that
[03:13] <dasteve2> im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas?
[03:13] <jake1> thanx
[03:14] <taychouri-1> there i got it
[03:14] <mike_> can anyone who is really good with ubuntu look at this for me please ???
[03:14] <mike_> http://pastebin.ca/146994
[03:14] <Dravas> !nvidia
[03:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:14] <Dravas> <3 ubotu
[03:15] <cdubya> can you change the boot splash screen to something else other than the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu verbose?
[03:15] <dasteve2> the drivers are installed correctly
[03:15] <w30> taychouri-1, if you want to keep files that are on both partitions then you will want to back up the files and copy them or at least one set of the files on the partition that you delete.
[03:15] <bbrazil> cdubya: yes, check the usplash docs
[03:15] <jake1> i was just kinda scoping out the possibility of installing Fedora Core on my laptop, but i'm not sure whether to check x86_64 or if i should select i386
[03:16] <jake1> it's an AMD Turion 64-bit ML 32
[03:16] <knoppix_> keep it real
[03:16] <cdubya> bbrazil, not usplash
[03:16] <tehsu> If I install ati driver using the run file, what else do i need to do besides running the installer
[03:17] <Corporal_Dirge> adax, ok, I foud out why it was passwording me.. file is partially corrupt.. CLI has a repair mode that got most of it back =)
[03:17] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey does any1 know if it is possible to get a wireless keyboard that is specifically designed for Windows xp to work on Linux even though it is not on the keyboards list?
[03:17] <jake1> i'm gonna try to install this one more time
[03:17] <jake1> see what happens
[03:17] <jake1> bbiab
[03:17] <Corporal_Dirge> NewtoUbuntu, Usually it'll work with the exception of the extra keys.
[03:17] <SoCal> I don't like wireless....batteries die too fast for me
[03:18] <SoCal> lol
[03:18] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks ill give it a try.. so i just plug it in correct?
[03:18] <w30> jake1, I use x86_64 on a desktop and it is faster with x86_64 but a few things llike shockwave flash and wmv playing is missing on the 64bit distro because of foot draging from people like Swhockwave Microsoft 64 bit and RealPlay10
[03:18] <Corporal_Dirge> NewtoUbuntu, Yup,.
[03:18] <VOYAGER> mike_, if you log on as sudo you should be able to change to infastructure
[03:18] <ielliott> Has there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?
[03:18] <dasteve2> im having trouble getting a 1680x1050 display to run native resolution, anyone have ideas? ive been googling for a long time, no luck yet
[03:19] <NewtoUbuntu> kk well ill try thank u much corporal_dirge
[03:19] <bitblit> i'm following instructions for using gconf-editor, but it does not save changes that I make... any ideas?
[03:19] <james_xxx> ?
[03:19] <Don_jr> Okay, live CD is running and starting to set up
[03:19] <mike_> VOYAGER: ehm.... what would I type at command line?
[03:19] <SoCal> I only configured mine for 1024x768
[03:19] <VOYAGER> dasteve2,  try reducing the color to 24 and try to get your rez then
[03:19] <Don_jr> and the computer just shut it's self off.......
[03:19] <Don_jr> what the hell?
[03:20] <SoCal> hmm
[03:20] <SoCal> dunno
[03:20] <NemesisUK> Don_jr, is the computer having temp. probs?
[03:20] <Don_jr> got to "loading hardware" and poof, went off
[03:20] <Don_jr> do'nt think so, not sure
[03:20] <VOYAGER> mike_, i just log in as sudo and use the gui setup sorry no cli here
[03:20] <SoCal> I'm using xchat in a liveCD version of Knoppix....pretty nice, but I really like Ubuntu....very easy setup
[03:20] <Madpilot> Don_jr, is this a CD you burned yourself, or a ShipIt one?
[03:20] <Don_jr> ISO I burnt
[03:21] <NemesisUK> check the disk
[03:21] <Don_jr> okay
[03:21] <Madpilot> Don_jr, did you run md5sum on the ISO before you burned it?
[03:21] <andax> kyja, who cares? turn that script off please.. thank you
[03:21] <SoCal> Don_jr, what speed did you burn the disk at?
[03:21] <FearMoth> is there any program that I can use to cut clips out of a dvd or quicktime video and save them as mpeg, avi or .mov ?
[03:21] <Don_jr> no, don't know what that is and I burnt it in windows
[03:21] <Don_jr> 12X speed
[03:21] <SoCal> that should be ok
[03:21] <pluma> Hah. Catch 22. I can't copy my MP3 collection over to my Linux box because I don't have enough free space and I can't simply add another harddisk because I would need to buy a new controller, for which I currently lack the money. In order to earn money, I would need to get some coding done, for which I need more RAM, which I can't buy because I don't have enough money.
[03:21] <justin_> Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?
[03:22] <VOYAGER> Don_jr,  try burning at 8x
[03:22] <SoCal> ya...maybe what someone else said...check the checksum
[03:22] <pluma> Well, actually only the last bit qualifies, but I can't code without music anyway.
[03:22] <SoCal> maybe corrupt file
[03:22] <VOYAGER> but yes check md5
[03:22] <w30> Don_jr, google for md5sum for windows
[03:22] <Don_jr> okay, how do I check the checksum from windows?
[03:22] <Don_jr> okay
[03:22] <Don_jr> md5sum
[03:22] <VOYAGER> md5summer
[03:23] <Don_jr> whole word?
[03:23] <rummik> something like that
[03:23] <Don_jr> md5summer
[03:23] <w30> Don_jr, I bellieve it is md5sum.exe?
[03:23] <SoCal> has anyone watched the hak.5 videos?
[03:23] <rummik> i bet that hurt them more than it did us :P
[03:23] <SoCal> lots of stuff
[03:24] <bimberi> !netsplit
[03:24] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:24] <ielliott> Has there been any concerns with doing Ubuntu in MS Virtual PC?
[03:24] <EpP> i have 2 linux computers one is a laptop that gets wireless and the other is a desktop that i want to get internet from the laptop... how do i do this?
[03:24] <ielliott> i ran the desktop install, and when it loads the graphic is fine, and the command line is fine, but when i get to the login screen its all screwy
[03:24] <ielliott> and i only set it for 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480 nothing fancy
[03:24] <VOYAGER> http://www.md5summer.org/
[03:24] <Don_jr> I've found a site that has it
[03:24] <w30> Don_jr, but Bill don't furnish it. You will have get download the execute binary and install it to run it.
[03:24] <rummik> ty ubotu
[03:24] <Don_jr> I run that file and direct the program to the .ISO file?
[03:24] <NemesisUK> Don_jr, yes
[03:25] <Don_jr> ok
[03:25] <VOYAGER> dload the md5 hash from the dload site
[03:25] <pluma> Also, what's with the 700-odd MB RAM Ubuntu seems to be using only to power Gnome, XChat, Firefox, Kopete, Thunderbird and a few services? Is Firefox collecting dead weight again or what?
[03:25] <Don_jr> the install made it past the loading hardware this time....
[03:25] <w30> Don_jr, yeah, md5sum xxx.iso
[03:25] <EpP> how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu
[03:25] <andax> EpP, apt-get install ipmasq on the laptop, and "route add default gw laptop" on the desktop (check the ipmasq man page for detailed info)
[03:25] <justin_> Why in "software properties" does Ubuntu have so many identical choices? I have like "ubuntu 6.06 LTS" securirty like 3 times etc? - are they mirrors, or does everyone actually have new stuff?
[03:25] <Don_jr> okay downloading now
[03:26] <Don_jr> then, if no errors, try burning at a slower speed?
[03:26] <VOYAGER> Don_jr,  kool
[03:26] <VOYAGER> yes
[03:26] <SoCal> i would try a slower speed
[03:26] <w30> Don_jr, yeah Whatsisname VOYAGER says and compare numbers
[03:26] <Don_jr> it's loading at the moment on the laptop, hasn't locked up again yet
[03:26] <tnzr> I wonder if the polite thing to do is always the right thing to do.  When I met the family from Japan, they all bowed.  I pretended like I was going to bow, but then I just kept going and flipped over on my back.  I did this five times.  I think they got the point.
[03:26] <SoCal> 8x or 4x
[03:26] <Don_jr> compare numbers to what?
[03:26] <dalila> tried 2 ps/2 mice and they dont work , i just bought a brand new hp/ps2 model M871 and it wont work  how can i reconfigure just the mouse to get it to work
[03:26] <Whatsisname> what?
[03:27] <dalila> cat /proc/interupts does not show it
[03:27] <w30> Don_jr, there is a text file at the sight of your iso that has the md5sum numbers in it that the md5sum.exe output generates
[03:28] <MrParanoia> why is /etc/rc.local disabled by default?
[03:28] <andax> dalila, ps2 mice may need a reboot to become working (don't know why)
[03:28] <dalila> i did reboot
[03:28] <BOBSONATOR> Sweet, first time in irc,
[03:28] <ironyCurtain> Hi all.  I cannot for the life of me get my wireless to work on my laptop.  It is Intel Pro 2200 Wireless (Centrino), and it uses the ipw2200 driver.  It is detected on eth1, and it can see wireless networks in my area, but when I try to connect to my wireless network through Network Settings it says it is disconnected.  I installed wifi-radar, and I made more progress with it.  It actually sends packets but is repeatedly connecting a
[03:28] <pluma> Is 256 MB RAM enough for WinXP to run only WiMP and BitTorrent or will I regret that?
[03:28] <w30> Don_jr, an incorrectly downloaded file will generate different md5sums
[03:29] <tnzr> ironyCurtain: is wpa_supplicant installed?
[03:29] <pluma> Hm... I'll better leave it 512 MB. Just for good measure.
[03:29] <BOBSONATOR> Irony curtain, click the icon, then hit the drop down box, and then hit the thing
[03:29] <BOBSONATOR> hit your network
[03:29] <dalila> dmesg does now show it either
[03:29] <hou5ton> ok ... i have video playing on CNN and YouTube ... but it won't play at all on MSNBC and only the sound plays on FoxNews.
[03:30] <ironyCurtain> tnzr: no, i use WEP
[03:30] <BOBSONATOR> because its a wmv
[03:30] <Don_jr> so if I run it twice it will be different each time if there's errors?
[03:30] <tnzr> ironyCurtain: iwconfig eth1 essid <your essid> channel <your channel>
[03:30] <hou5ton> BOBSONATOR:  is it also wmv on Fox?
[03:30] <tnzr> ironyCurtain: then ifup eth1
[03:30] <BOBSONATOR> i think so
[03:30] <mike_> someone told me to login as sudo
[03:30] <mike_> how do I do this????
[03:30] <BOBSONATOR> su
[03:30] <Jbirk> what is Ubuntu max color depth?
[03:30] <profoX> mike_: you don't
[03:30] <profoX> mike_: you type: sudo command
[03:30] <mike_> profoX: then why were tehy telling me this!?
[03:30] <evan_> how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu
[03:31] <mike_> profoX: they SPECIFICALLY SAID login as sudo
[03:31] <profoX> mike_: sudo means: execute this command as root
[03:31] <mike_> makes no sense
[03:31] <BOBSONATOR> su, then password, then you are root.
[03:31] <profoX> mike_: they said wrong.
[03:31] <w30> Don_jr, like files will generate like md5sums when you run md5sum and read the output
[03:31] <profoX> mike_: you can only login as sudo if you have a user named sudo ;)
[03:31] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> turn off the wep when using public networks (hotspots)
[03:31] <tnzr> mike_: sudo is a command
[03:31] <mike_> profoX: it means execute as another user
[03:31] <tnzr> not a user
[03:31] <andax> hou5ton, it's not a problem to play wmv files, try using mplayer-plugin ( http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ )
[03:31] <SoCal> sudo means superuser do
[03:31] <mike_> tnzr: you're five minutes too late, and I already know, kthnx
[03:31] <w30> Don_jr, think of the md5sum as the total and correct number of bites in the file
[03:31] <tnzr> it means execute as root (superuser = su = "sudo")
[03:31] <SoCal> means do this command using su
[03:32] <profoX> mike_: what SoCal says
[03:32] <tnzr> mike_: listen to yourself, kthx
[03:32] <tnzr> and dont say "kthx" in a Linux channel and expect serious help
[03:32] <hou5ton> andax:  ya .. that's what I have .. the extension installed for firefox, etc. ... and CNN uses it just fine???
[03:32] <ironyCurtain> MrParanoia: this is my home network though, technically my roommate's, i can't turn off encryption
[03:32] <tnzr> I guess you could in #ubuntu.. nevermind.
[03:32] <mike_> right, let's stop useless chat and see if anyone can fix my wireless :p
[03:32] <Don_jr> okay w30 where I'm confused is, if I run the md5 on the .ISO file, I get a number, what do I compare that number to to see if there is an error?
[03:32] <andax> hou5ton, never tried, i'll check it
[03:32] <hou5ton> andax:  How do I get the other websites to use it
[03:32] <evan_> how do i do internet sharing in ubuntu?
[03:32] <mike_> evan_: buy a switch.... =)
[03:32] <felipe___> rubyonrails
[03:33] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> you can't turn off the WEP on your laptop or on the router?
[03:33] <evan_> mike_, have one...
[03:33] <mike_> evan_: buy a router....  shrug.
[03:33] <w30> Don_jr, the other supposedly matching number will be posted on the internet at the same place that offered the iso file for downloading
[03:33] <evan_> mike_, have 1
[03:33] <Phoul> Does anyone here know anything about darkbot (i know its not the right room just curious)
[03:33] <ironyCurtain> MrParanoia: The WEP isn't the issue, I think, because it does the same thing when connecting to an unsecured network.
[03:33] <mark__> In the repository their is linux-686 and linux-686-smp, when either one is set to be installed it marks the same 686 kernel's? so does it not matter which I select for a Pentium4 to get hyperthreading?
[03:33] <Don_jr> okay, thank you
[03:33] <Don_jr> I"ll go look and see if I can find that info now so I know what I"m looking for
[03:34] <tnzr> ironyCurtain: did you try the iwconfig/ifup eth1 stuff?
[03:34] <evan_> mike_, i have a laptop that get wireless that i want to share with the pc in my room so i dont have to run a wire down the hall
[03:34] <profoX> evan_: internet sharing? with a router that shouldn't be a problem - or do I miss something
[03:34] <viator_> plug other computers into the router lol
[03:34] <dalila> when i burn with gnomebaker i get this error Using IMAGESPRODUCTSEARRINGSF000.JPEG;1 for  /home/dalila/Desktop/olddocs/Bracelets With A Story/item.asp_files/imagesproductsearringsfruitwhite.jpeg (imagesproductsearringsfruitblue.jpeg)
[03:34] <dalila> Incorrectly encoded string (in cursos UNE.xls) encountered.
[03:34] <dalila> Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting
[03:34] <tnzr> evan: your laptop running ubuntu?
[03:34] <andax> hou5ton, i checked www.cnn.com , the videos are playing fine for me using mplayer-plugin + firefox
[03:34] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> if you have WEP turned on when using a network that doesn't use WEP, it won't connect
[03:34] <evan_> tnzr, yes both comps
[03:34] <w30> mark__, smp stands for multiple processors
[03:35] <profoX> evan_: is the computer connected to the router?
[03:35] <hou5ton> andax:  I know .... it's FoxNEws that only the sound works, and on MSNBC, nothing does
[03:35] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> otherwise, you're using the wrong WEP key
[03:35] <profoX> or how do you want to share the internet?
[03:35] <tnzr> evan_: its kind of a long story but I think youd use iptables.. wireless card woul dbe the external and your lan card would be the internal, your laptop would be the router
[03:35] <viator_> are you saying you want the linux box to act as a gateway /router
[03:35] <andax> hou5ton, oh okay checking them
[03:35] <viator_> to share its connection?
[03:35] <tnzr> youd need to read up on using iptables and linux for routing purposes
[03:35] <evan_> profoX, im on the laptop right now... i just want to share this connection with the desktop in my room
[03:36] <ironyCurtain> MrParanoia: i turn it off when connecting to an unsecured network
[03:36] <SoCal> does your desktop have a wireless card too?
[03:36] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> if you have a firewall installed, consider turning it off for testing
[03:36] <profoX> evan_: without having to put a cable in the router u mean?
[03:36] <mike_> http://pastebin.ca/146994
[03:36] <tnzr> your desktop wouldnt need a wireless card, you could plug it directly into your laptops ethernet jack
[03:36] <tnzr> err
[03:36] <tnzr> into a hub into your laptops ethernet jack
[03:36] <dalila> brb
[03:36] <mark__> w30, I know so which should I select to have hyperthreading does that count as multiple cpu's, just I read in the ubuntu forums about this saying it should be linux-686-smp but it seems to point to the same 686 kernels.
[03:36] <klhrevolutionist>  Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?
[03:36] <evan_> so like MODEM -> router ---wireless--> Laptop ---WIRE--> desktop
[03:37] <tnzr> evan_: you can prolly do it that way but ive never done it without a hub between the laptop -> desktop
[03:37] <fangorious> i'm messing around with having multiple ServerLayout sections in xorg.conf, and have two of the intended three working. I assume I have to pick which layout to use before gdm starts, is there a way to do that with a grub kernel option?
[03:37] <mike_> ^  wireless config doesn't seem to work
[03:37] <mark__> so surely it doesn't make a difference?
[03:37] <evan_> tnzr, its a crossover cablet hat goes to my desktop
[03:37] <andax> hou5ton, confirmed, foxnews only plays sound, no picture :(
[03:37] <tnzr> evan_: that would work
[03:38] <hou5ton> andax:  so .... what shall we do now?  :-)
[03:38] <tnzr> evan its  pretty easy to setup, the tough part is just setting up iptables nad actually understanding what you are doing.. I couldnt even really begin to tell you here, though Ive used a linux box as a router for quite some time (a gentoo box, no wireless)
[03:38] <MrParanoia> this ubuntu takes some getting use to
[03:38] <w30> mark__, what's hyperthreading? I thought that was a Microsoft thing?
[03:38] <evan_> profoX, im connected wirelessly with my laptop. now i just want to plug a crossover from my latop to my desktop so i dont have to run a wire to my router...
[03:38] <evan_> tnzr, im a n00b, how would i do it?
[03:38] <MrParanoia> w30> hyperthreading is a cpu feature
[03:38] <mike_> Is shockwave doable on ubuntu ?
[03:39] <tnzr> evan_: we could try something :) im not a network guru but maybe you could plug it into your laptop and set a route on your laptop or something
[03:39] <bimberi> !shockwave
[03:39] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:39] <andax> hou5ton, i have no idea, foxnews seems to be using flash video which i have no clue about, i could have helped with the mplayer plugin only
[03:39] <VOYAGER> it should show up as 2 processors in top
[03:39] <evan_> tnzr, how would i go about doing that?
[03:39] <VOYAGER> type top at command line
[03:39] <ubuntu_> the dapper live/install-cd can't do X on my computer (it gets confused by the 4 video cards, i think).  can i still do the old text-mode install?
[03:39] <mike_> bimberi: how about you tell me something searching google *didn't*? :-)
[03:39] <w30> mike_, hyper transport is amd's architecture
[03:39] <tehsu> !info w32codecs
[03:39] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[03:39] <profoX> ubuntu_: use alternate install cd
[03:40] <mike_> w30: wrong person... :)
[03:40] <tehsu> !info w32codec
[03:40] <ubotu> Package w32codec does not exist in dapper
[03:40] <Don_jr> Okay, live CD mode is running properly thus far.  disk is done chattering at me and mouse still moves
[03:40] <tehsu> what do I use for decoding mp3 and wma
[03:40] <Don_jr> is there anything I should do before clicking the install button?
[03:40] <w30> mike_, sorry
[03:40] <ubuntu_>  profoX blarg, out of cdr's, the binary for the old install is no where on the livecd?
[03:40] <mark__> ok it does show two CPU's in GNOME's System Monitor so I guess it is working just don't know why their is a linux-686 and linux-686-smp that both install the same kernels
[03:40] <andax> tehsu, www.mplayerhq.hu or apt-get install mplayer
[03:40] <profoX> ubuntu_: not that i know - although that would have made it more user friendly..
[03:41] <ubuntu_> profoX: ok, well, thank you for the help, guess i better go dig up some more cds
[03:41] <tehsu> !info mplayer
[03:41] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[03:41] <bimberi> mike_: lol, well i know that it really doesn't work very well.  It uses wine and my kids, who are discerning lego.com shockwave game players, have to use windows :|
[03:41] <tehsu> :o
[03:41] <profoX> mark__: dummy package probably
[03:41] <tehsu> it says couldnt find mplayer
[03:41] <mark__> profoX, ah ok
[03:41] <VOYAGER> mark__, the non smp will install it oh on 1 processor but you should have the smp version if more than 1 processor
[03:41] <mike_> bimberi: hm... k, thx.  I'm setting up ubuntu for an elderly fellow (he is Mike, I am Quintin) and wanted shockwave....
[03:41] <klhrevolutionist> Okay I read up on snd-cs4236 and added it to my /etc/modules file. But upon rebooting xubuntu is not catching my sound. So I have to open terminal & sudo modprobe snd-cs4236. Andyway to make this automatic upon booting ?
[03:42] <profoX> mark__: u can ignore it could be a transitional package to avoid confusion
[03:42] <tnzr> evan_: plug the desktop into your laptop, youll have to specify an internal address on your laptops nic (not wireless).. 192.168.0.1 or something, then set an ip on your PC, set its gateway to your laptops nic (192.168.0.1), then on your laptop, you could forward info coming in on 192.168.0.1 to the wireless card, using hte route command I believe.  If route is incapable of something like that, youd probably definitely have to use iptables
[03:42] <mike_> bimberi: got java and flash at least.  so yahoo games works
[03:42] <andax> tehsu, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repositories, then apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer
[03:42] <evan_> tnzr, i dont know howl.
[03:42] <tehsu> k
[03:42] <profoX> VOYAGER: i actually think 686 is smp by default now
[03:42] <mike_> How do I get better multimedia support?  eg. divx xvid, wma wmv etc ?
[03:42] <VOYAGER> profoX,  tnx
[03:42] <profoX> VOYAGER: so -smp is just transitional package in 686 and k7
[03:43] <VOYAGER> i had to use the smp on beta testing
[03:43] <MrParanoia> ironyCurtain> BTW, i'm using the ipw2200 on my dell600m with no problems
[03:43] <VOYAGER> on my dual xeons
[03:43] <VOYAGER> but not on the p4 with hyperthreading
[03:43] <UncleD> Does anyone know how to make dircolors work properly?
[03:43] <profoX> VOYAGER: well i could be wrong..
[03:43] <UncleD> I can't seem to get my directory color to change from blue to green
[03:43] <profoX> thought i heard it somewhere
[03:44] <w30> mark__, crazy eh? I don't know if the disro needs tweaking for multi-processors either.
[03:44] <UncleD> I want to do ls --color and see my directorys as GREEN. Anyone?
[03:44] <VOYAGER> profoX,  could be i gave up after the tests
[03:44] <mark__> w30, yep a little confusing
[03:44] <Don_jr> okay, the live CD OS is running fine right now.  Is there anything I should do before clicking the install?
[03:44] <Chu> If I wanted to use the 686 linux kernel instead of the 386, should I just install through synaptic, or do I need to do something with my current kernel as well?
[03:44] <mike_> UncleD: directories are supposed to be blue.  are you crazy?!
[03:44] <tehsu> andax: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidat
[03:44] <mike_> Don_jr: make backups
[03:44] <Don_jr> backups of what? it's a whiped HD
[03:44] <mark__> just I read on the Ubuntu forums it was essential to have the linux-686-smp one marked with the Pentium4
[03:45] <profoX> Chu: installing linux-686 will pull the  necessary dependancies afaik :)
[03:45] <mike_> Don_jr: just run the installer and accept defaults then.
[03:45] <Chu> profoX: It didn't say it needed any...
[03:45] <UncleD> mike_: I have a black background and it's hard for my eyes.
[03:45] <tehsu> andax: wont install mplayer
[03:45] <tehsu> !info mplayer
[03:45] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[03:45] <tehsu> hm
[03:45] <andax> tehsu, check http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html
[03:46] <tehsu> ok
[03:46] <profoX> Chu: oh? could be..
[03:46] <tnzr> evan: yeah its a little tricky.. ive never done that so I couldnt really tell you how teh route command would work.. your PC's ip would be something like 192.168.0.100, your laptoips nic would be your PC's gateway (192.168.0.1) and your wireless nic would be your non-wireless laptop nic's gateway, so to speak
[03:46] <Don_jr> ubotu been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about been doin this for a while eh? you know quite a bit of this stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <profoX> Chu: yoou can always go back to old kernel if it doesnt work
[03:46] <Don_jr> lol
[03:46] <tehsu> multiverse
[03:46] <lupine> route: route add default gw <router IP>
[03:46] <Don_jr> it's a bot...okay I"m an idiot
[03:46] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[03:46] <lupine> (as sudo)
[03:46] <UncleD> mike_: Help me change my colors!
[03:46] <Chu> I'm asking if I need to do anything with my current kernel. I'm not sure how it would like multiple kernels...
[03:47] <profoX> Don_jr: its a bot
[03:47] <wikijeff> Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!
[03:47] <malv> anyone know of a good router brand?
[03:47] <Don_jr> I clicked install, disk is goin nutz, but noting on the screen yet....
[03:47] <malv> or model, rather?
[03:47] <profoX> Don_jr: lol
[03:47] <mike_> UncleD: if you can fix my wireless problem, I will help you change your colors.  otherwise, no deal!!
[03:47] <Don_jr> yeah, I"m a dope...heh
[03:47] <tehsu> malv: linksys
[03:47] <Chu> But it doesn't say it needs to remove anything, so I'm a bit confused. :p
[03:47] <malv> tehsu: which model?
[03:47] <Don_jr> This is like my 3rd time in IRC...bear with me here
[03:47] <mike_> p://pastebin.ca/146994  wireless issues, please to be looking :)
[03:47] <profoX> Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one
[03:47] <louis__> hello
[03:47] <louis__> i am a newbie
[03:47] <louis__> does any1 chat with me
[03:48] <kitsuneofdoom> louis__: first thing, don't introduce yourself. Just write down your problem
[03:48] <Don_jr> Any reason why I don't have anything on my desktop after clickin the install button?  Disk is going nutz like it's doing something, but nothing to report what's being done..
[03:48] <andax> louis__, just ask your question and someone will help you sooner or later
[03:48] <mike_> UncleD: I'm waiting.........
[03:48] <mike_> Don_jr: sit and wait patiently.
[03:48] <Don_jr> ok
[03:48] <UncleD> mike_: Whats your wireless problem
[03:48] <louis__> ok,thank you very much,i see
[03:48] <mike_> UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times reless issues, please to be looking :)
[03:48] <mike_> 09:42 < profoX> Don_jr: np :) ur not the first one
[03:48] <mike_> 09:42 < louis__> hello
[03:48] <mike_> 09:42 < louis__> i am a newbie
[03:49] <louis__> :)
[03:49] <wikijeff> Anyone?????
[03:49] <mike_> UncleD: I've pasted it like twelve times , http://pastebin.ca/146994
[03:49] <Don_jr> I was told the netgear wg511 wireless card for a laptop is compatible with ubuntu, can anyone here confirm or deny this?
[03:49] <profoX> louis__: welcome.. :)
[03:49] <VitaminG> anyone here having problems with the azureus version in the repos?
[03:49] <mike_> Don_jr: STFW
[03:49] <tnzr> mike: google for Automatix .. it can isntall all the video stuff you need
[03:49] <Don_jr> eh?
[03:49] <profoX> VitaminG: i use ktorrent because of the java
[03:49] <andax> mike_, www.getautomatix.com
[03:49] <mike_> Don_jr: search the FINE web
[03:50] <HAL9000> I use frostwire
[03:50] <HAL9000> Limewire
[03:50] <VitaminG> profoX: I have Gnome, and I don't really want to install KDE libs
[03:50] <Don_jr> it doesn't always produce the results you'd like to get...
[03:50] <Don_jr> but I'll look again
[03:50] <HAL9000> and ktorrent
[03:50] <Madpilot> mike_, 1. do NOT use "STFW" here. 2. Don't recommend Automatix, it breaks things...
[03:50] <mike_> tnzr: mmmmmm ty
[03:50] <VitaminG> HAL9000: I'm looking for a bittorrent solution, thogh
[03:50] <tnzr> np
[03:50] <profoX> VitaminG: well.. me too.. atleast kde libs + ktorrent require less memory/cpu than java + azureus :)
[03:50] <HAL9000> what is ur os
[03:51] <mike_> Madpilot: I didn't.  and I don't see any reason to ban acronyms, seriously.
[03:51] <VitaminG> HAL9000: Ubuntu Dapper
[03:51] <sethk> VitaminG, the libraries aren't that large, it seems foolish not to run something just because it uses kde libraries
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> Does anyone here use kismet/AIRCRACK>
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> ?
[03:51] <profoX> VitaminG: alot of people use torrent in wine - works perfectly - uses low ram - very fast - verrry advanced
[03:51] <mike_> andax:  madpilot say not to use automatix !
[03:51] <HAL9000> I use PCLOS
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> PCLOS?
[03:51] <louis__> what is ismet/AIRCRACK>
[03:51] <mike_> profoX: last I looked it was kind of buggy... but utorrent is best
[03:51] <HAL9000> PCLINUXOS
[03:51] <profoX> yes automatix breaks things.
[03:51] <VitaminG> sethk: I have dial-up, so the KDE libs are a fairly large download for me
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> its a wep cracking tool
[03:51] <mike_> I have it going now :)
[03:51] <tnzr> mike: if you dont want to use it, google for "codec ubuntu" or somethinhg
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> later guys, going to a party.
[03:52] <profoX> mike_: torrent is great, too bad its closed source / windows
[03:52] <sethk> VitaminG, ok, but if you need them, start the download and go to sleep
[03:52] <louis__> web cracking?
[03:52] <tnzr> youll find a good page or two regarding isntalling it the manual way
[03:52] <HAL9000> Bittornando works well
[03:52] <wweasel> VitaminG: I second the recommendation of utorrent in Wine. I am torrenting somethign in utorrent right now, actually
[03:52] <dalila> come on ps2 mice should work out of the box.... any hints on getting a new ps2 mice hp model m871 working
[03:52] <Madpilot> mike_, it's not the acronym itself, it's that "search the f'ing web" isn't really a helpful answer...
[03:53] <q_a_z_steve> how do I get past the password or something if all I can get is a login prompt?
[03:53] <andax> mike_, if you don't want to use automatix then go to www.mplayerhq.hu and follow the installation instructions, or have a look at http://rnc000.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-mplayer-on-ubuntu-dapper.html  for the quick and easy way to get mplayer. It will play every multimedia content
[03:53] <profoX> louis__: kismet/aircrack are programs for wardriving or for checking wireless connections and/or breaking the used encryption (wep/wpa) on the networks
[03:53] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[03:53] <wweasel> mike_: utorrent in wine is 100% stable. just has an annoying flicker.
[03:53] <mike_> Madpilot: It is very helpful when someone is asking something that is answered better and faster by a google search than by someone explaining things to them
[03:53] <mike_> wweasel: ok.  last time I futzed about on utorrent forums it said it had issues. :)
[03:53] <profoX> wweasel: yea and its ugly as hell - for the rest it works fine
[03:53] <Madpilot> andax, recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats over autobreakix or random Google searches
[03:54] <mike_> who cares if it's ugly
[03:54] <profoX> mike_: i do - its part of my desktop
[03:54] <profoX> :)
[03:54] <wweasel> mike_: Alot of people.
[03:54] <VitaminG> well thanks, I'll try a few of these ideas
[03:54] <louis__> profox,you are a good person
[03:54] <toddobryan> I'm trying to set up nfs for my computer lab at school. (I teach.) I'm going through the NFS How-To, and it looks like Ubuntu isn't paying attention to hosts.deny or hosts.allow.
[03:54] <toddobryan> Am I missing something?
[03:54] <mike_> profoX: you do ... what? :)
[03:54] <profoX> louis__: lol -- thank you very much
[03:54] <wweasel> mike_: he cares if it's ugly
[03:54] <profoX> mike_: i do care about it being pretty
[03:54] <blind> oh jeez.
[03:54] <HAL9000> Whats everyones favorite OS
[03:55] <wweasel> profoX: Is there any way to get it to show an icon on the taskbar?
[03:55] <profoX> wweasel: its been a while since i last ran it -- i use ktorrent now
[03:55] <SoCal> HAL9000, Ubuntu
[03:55] <wweasel> profoX: How is KTorrent, compared to uTorrent?
[03:55] <fangorious> is there a way to detect a docking station on a laptop?
[03:55] <SoCal> or FreeBSD
[03:55] <profoX> wweasel: it's "okay"
[03:55] <mike_> blind: eat me
[03:55] <mark__> HAL9000, xubuntu
[03:55] <mike_> HAL9000: mac or win for desktop, freebsd or gentoo for server
[03:56] <mike_> or solaris
[03:56] <blind> mike_: follow the coc please :] 
[03:56] <mike_> solaris is tasty
[03:56] <louis__> show an icon on the taskbar?you mean shortcut?
[03:56] <profoX> wweasel: ktorrent is almost as advanced and has a built-in torrent search engine that i like
[03:56] <louis__> ?
[03:56] <mike_> blind: you started it ! >:P
[03:56] <profoX> wweasel: and it can be extended by plugin
[03:56] <HAL9000> PCLINUXOS here
[03:56] <blind> mike_: I didn't start anything.
[03:56] <VOYAGER> fangorious, im having mixed results here with compaq m-700
[03:56] <wweasel> profoX: utorrent has a built in torrent search engine too. or, search bar rather.
[03:56] <mike_> shrug
[03:56] <wweasel> profoX: but i'm gonna check out KTorrent.
[03:56] <Madpilot> Folks, non-tech-support chat can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...
[03:56] <mark__> I want to give FreeBSD a go
[03:56] <profoX> wweasel: yea i know but i like ktorrents thing better :) search thing
[03:56] <sethk> blind hasn't said anything for quite some time
[03:56] <Don_jr> Okay I don't see it on the web page.  can anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card is or is not compatible with Ubuntu?
[03:56] <profoX> it has a built in HTML browser
[03:56] <sethk> mark__, freebsd is an interesting o/s
[03:56] <SoCal> FreeBSDis nice...especially for a server
[03:56] <MrParanoia> is sysv-rc-conf still valid in ubuntu 6.06.1?
[03:57] <SoCal> As for desktop, I like Ubuntu
[03:57] <SoCal> everything works
[03:57] <mark__> also might give Fedora a go one day
[03:57] <Madpilot> Don_jr, routers shouldn't care what's connecting to them...
[03:57] <MrParanoia> or is there a different config tool available?
[03:57] <Don_jr> it's not a router, it's the card that I want to put in my laptop
[03:57] <SoCal> I don't care for Fedora...I dunno why...jut me
[03:57] <louis__> SocCal,i like ubuntu too
[03:57] <SoCal> just me
[03:57] <toddobryan> Anybody know anything about setting up NFS?
[03:57] <sethk> Don_jr, I haven't tried that particular card.
[03:57] <SoCal> lol louis__
[03:57] <MrParanoia> apt-get won't install it
[03:57] <profoX> louis__: no he meant something else ;)
[03:57] <andax> Don_jr, confirmed, it will be autodetected and will work
[03:57] <profoX> louis__: about the icon on taskbar
[03:57] <sethk> Don_jr, the card is not important, what you need to know is the chipset
[03:58] <fangorious> is there a way to configure gdm to start X with a specific ServerLayout?
[03:58] <sethk> Don_jr, then we can tell you whether there is support for it.
[03:58] <Don_jr> Thanx Andax, I was told it should but wanted to double check.
[03:58] <louis__> i know,i am a new hand,so sorry
[03:58] <SoCal> well...I'm out for now...see everyone another time
[03:58] <profoX> louis__: np
[03:58] <profoX> SoCal: later
[03:58] <mike_> I can't install w32codecs ??
[03:58] <mike_> it says it's a package that refers to anothe rpackage or something
[03:59] <Don_jr> As long as I can get my wireless card to work with ubuntu I'll be in good shape.  I"m goign to let it finish installing.
[03:59] <mike_> Is there any Linux desktop OS that support flash, wmv, real media, quicktime etc etc out of the box ?
[03:59] <profoX> wweasel: you might like torrent better though
[03:59] <VOYAGER> MrParanoia,  i got my info up on http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[03:59] <mike_> Don_jr: good luck!!
[03:59] <distantbody> "mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"
[04:00] <toddobryan> OK. I'm going to have to use guilt...It's 10:00pm local time, and I'm sitting here in my classroom *hoping* that somebody knows something about nfs.
[04:00] <profoX> wweasel: ktorrent has a few advantages and looks better imo but torrent seems to be faster (finds more peers?)
[04:00] <andax> toddobryan, what's the question about nfs?
[04:00] <toddobryan> mike_: It would be impossible to support out of the box. They'd have to pay licensing fees probably. But you can download what you want.
[04:00] <mike_> distantbody: right.  apt-get install doesn't install it
[04:00] <VOYAGER> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[04:01] <toddobryan> So, I'm going through the NFS HowTo on nfs.sourceforge.net.
[04:01] <wweasel> profox: interesting, thanks
[04:01] <mike_> toddobryan: mhm.  there should be a script on desktop that says "click here to install a bunch of crap you probably want to have"
[04:01] <distantbody> "mike_: I can't install w32codecs ??"      Use "ADD/REMOVE" to install mplayer, it plays win32
[04:01] <profoX> wweasel: it has something to do with - i forgot how it's called, something that azureus has too ;) but ktorrent doesn't
[04:01] <mark__> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:01] <profoX> some technology to find more peers
[04:01] <tnzr> mike: you ahve to add some new repositories, then do some apt-getting to install the multimedia stuff
[04:01] <toddobryan> It says to check security for portmap. I did, and hosts.deny and hosts.allow seem not to have any effect.
[04:01] <andax> profoX, DHT?
[04:01] <profoX> tnzr: yea but cipherfunk is down afaik
[04:02] <profoX> andax: yea thats it..
[04:02] <mike_> tnzr: this is all stuff a desktop user has ZERO interest in doing :(
[04:02] <profoX> andax: i could be wrong about what exactly it is though?
[04:02] <tnzr> mike: thats where you come in :)
[04:02] <mike_> Thought maybe Desktop LInux was ready.  sadly it's not
[04:02] <tnzr> that clearly depends on what you mean by "ready :D
[04:03] <Madpilot> mike_, the reasons Linux can't support Flash/mp3/etc/etc is legal, not technical.
[04:03] <Madpilot> can't support it out of the box, that is
[04:03] <mike_> Madpilot: Right.  There should stil lbe an auto-install script
[04:03] <NemesisUK> mike_, it mostly is, just takes patience and little bit of research
[04:03] <profoX> legal problems are the biggest problem for linux
[04:03] <tnzr> mike: there pretty much is
[04:03] <Madpilot> mike_, there are legal problems w/ an autoinstall script too...
[04:03] <mark__> mike_ their is automatix but it is dodgy
[04:03] <mike_> tnzr: If everyone who wants to use linux needs their own personal sysadmin, it's doomed.  I cost $30/hr minimum.
[04:04] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[04:04] <mike_> NemesisUK: AGAIN, Joe ServicePack doesn't care :)  they just want it to work
[04:04] <Don_jr> Any aproximates on how long the install could take?
[04:04] <dalila> totally lost on getting ps/2 mouse working plse help
[04:04] <Madpilot> mike_, you just need a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, it's not that complex
[04:04] <distantbody> mike_ select the "applications" menu then "Add/remove" then search for "mplayer"
[04:04] <mike_> Madpilot: It's complex for Joe Servicepack
[04:04] <profoX> mike_: then linux is not for joe servicepack
[04:04] <tnzr> mike: well I like to think that linux isnt really geared for people who require a sysadmin in order to get it up and running
[04:04] <mike_> distantbody: doing apt-get mplayer now.  hopefully that is gmplayer
[04:04] <NemesisUK> mike_, I just want it to work, but linux is like life and doesnt work that way
[04:04] <Madpilot> mike_, not from what I've seen, with friends I've converted to Ubuntu...
[04:04] <tnzr> if one cant see why using linux is advantageous, then one prolly should just stick to windows
[04:04] <mike_> Madpilot: still not ready.  until total idiot can install everything themselves it's not ready
[04:05] <dalila> its a [s/2 optical
[04:05] <ali1234> mike_: anybody who has a computer connected to the internet needs a sysadmin. OS doesn't matter
[04:05] <mike_> profoX: "linux for human beings"
[04:05] <tnzr> mike: its not linux's fault that windows made idiots out of the computer using population :)
[04:05] <profoX> Madpilot: amen.. i converted total "noobs" to ubuntu -- and they have their own questions and problems -- but everything is going smooth now
[04:05] <Madpilot> mike_, ever done a from-bare-metal install of Windows? You've got to do far more crap to get a usable OS there than you do with a from-bare install of Ubuntu...
[04:05] <sethk> mike_, there are enough human beings who can handle ubuntu
[04:05] <mike_> ali1234: not really.  mac users are fine.  windoze users can get by, albeit with lots of spyware and viruses
[04:05] <andax> tnzr, lol agree on that :))
[04:05] <tnzr> Madpilot: hear hear
[04:05] <sethk> mike_, ok, then let those users use windows
[04:05] <JackMacOKC> i just installed the realplayer .bin installer from real.com. how can i uninstall it properly?
[04:05] <mike_> Madpilot: not with winxp
[04:05] <sethk> mike_, linux is not instead of windows, it's better than windows
[04:06] <Don_jr> So the spyware and virus problems that windows has is not as great on the *nix systems?
[04:06] <mike_> sethk: add more to chat than just that please
[04:06] <ISOLATEDViRuS> hey, apparently xchat was deleted when I updated the software, how do I get it back and is mIRC available for ubuntu?
[04:06] <sethk> mike_, you're in charge, now?
[04:06] <mike_> sethk: depends on what "better" means.  win provides better desktop experience
[04:06] <profoX> Madpilot: i don't agree completely.. it depends what you need/seek in an OS
[04:06] <sethk> ISOLATEDViRuS, that's odd, nothing is deleted
[04:06] <wweasel> Yeah, honestly, I have more trouble converting users who know somewhat what they're doing than complete noobs. Complete noobs, you tell them "click here for internet, when it asks you to install updates say yes, click here to shutdown" and they're happy
[04:06] <sethk> mike_, then use windows
[04:06] <distantbody> JackMacOKC : Reinstall Ubuntu;)
[04:06] <profoX> if you want to make your linux do everything windows does -- you'll have to change alot
[04:06] <mike_> sethk: I don't want my time wasted.  actually say something if you're going to chat to me :)
[04:06] <Madpilot> mike_, yes, with WinXP. I've done several from-bare installs of XP, it's unusable by default. No word processor, a crap browser, no codecs...
[04:06] <tnzr> mike: use a Mac, it kills windows in "desktop usability"
[04:06] <h00t> can someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it
[04:06] <profoX> the reverse is true too
[04:06] <sethk> mike_, I decide what I want to say, not you.
[04:06] <mike_> Madpilot: yes.  but installing these thins is simpler
[04:06] <wweasel> mike_: stop being an ass.
[04:06] <tehsu> tnzr: very true
[04:06] <profoX> wweasel: amen
[04:07] <mike_> sethk: ok, you're ignored now
[04:07] <profoX> wweasel: to the converting :)
[04:07] <JackMacOKC> distantbody: joking aside
[04:07] <sethk> mike_, I'm crushed.  :)
[04:07] <tehsu> mike_: go away
[04:07] <Madpilot> mike_, not really, and you've got to isntall far MORE stuff to get XP useable
[04:07] <tehsu> ^^ what he said
[04:07] <sethk> somebody ban this guy?  :)
[04:07] <ISOLATEDViRuS> sec im checking it
[04:07] <mark__> Madpilot, so true
[04:07] <wweasel> I second what madpilot said.
[04:07] <tnzr> not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need
[04:07] <Madpilot> sethk, he's almost earned that...
[04:07] <mike_> tehsu: blow me
[04:07] <profoX> sethk: not yet..
[04:07] <xepher> Madpilot got it on the spot.
[04:07] <tehsu> mike_: only windows users would like to do that
[04:07] <Don_jr> I won't have the problems with spyware and virus's in unix for browsing around?  That sounds nice.
[04:07] <sethk> Madpilot, that last comment?
[04:08] <h00t> can someone help me ... emule freaked out on me and now it's all weird and blinking ... how can i kill it
[04:08] <Madpilot> mike_, last warning. Be civil, or be banned.
[04:08] <mike_> Madpilot: true, but it is easier to do on windows than linux, for most things
[04:08] <profoX> mike_: I suggest you be a little more friendly -- unless you really want to get banned here -- you're really not helping here
[04:08] <mike_> Madpilot: I'm being plenty "CIVIL"
[04:08] <Don_jr> I just want to try it out.  Been using windows for ever and I"m tired of the microsoft monopoly.
[04:08] <sethk> h00t, do you know the process name?
[04:08] <wweasel> Don_jr: Nope, no spyware, nothing on your computer that you didn't want.
[04:08] <distantbody> "not only that, any windows install comes with about 40% worthwhile stuff..the other 60%, most users dont even need" NLITE FTW!
[04:08] <h00t> no idea
[04:08] <neil__> I would like to migrate a windows app to Linux, it appears the app is using MSSQL7 for it data backend, can MSSQL7 databases be read by Linux directly?
[04:08] <sethk> h00t, do ps aux, see what name looks likely.  Hopefully you'll be able to spot it.
[04:08] <h00t> i did "ps -l" but it won't show
[04:08] <Don_jr> That's great.  I"m liking this more and more.  And Iv'e heard it's fairly simple to run a web server on a unix system aswell?
[04:08] <sethk> h00t, not ps -l.   ps aux
[04:09] <Don_jr> apache I believe was the name used?
[04:09] <wweasel> don_jr: there are plenty of good tutorials on setting up apache, yes
[04:09] <Miek> Don_jr: i prefer lighttpd :p
[04:09] <profoX> h00t: also try: sudo killall process-name
[04:09] <profoX> h00t: sudo killall emule
[04:09] <profoX> for instance
[04:09] <mike_> Don_jr: it's simple to do that on any system, but you'd be well advised to use a seperate computer for your server.  you don't want personal inof etc on a globally accessible machine
[04:09] <sethk> Don_jr, yes, apache is the most popular web server
[04:09] <sethk> Don_jr, there are others, as well
[04:09] <Madpilot> Don_jr, you can run Apache easily on Ubuntu - it's a complex app, though
[04:09] <sethk> Don_jr, I use apache, have for years
[04:09] <mike_> Don_jr: I'd recommned "abyss" web server
[04:09] <Don_jr> Only thing that get's me is how much am I going to have to learn to program in c or any other language to make things work.
[04:10] <tnzr> Don_jr: none.
[04:10] <sethk> Don_jr, no you don't
[04:10] <mike_> Don_jr: you don't have to be able to program
[04:10] <sethk> Don_jr, what gave you that idea?
[04:10] <Don_jr> no more compiling to add new programs?
[04:10] <tnzr> Don_jr: but if you know any programming, you can have a lot of fun in linux
[04:10] <neil__> Don_jr: I beleave there are more apache web-servers on the internet than all the others combined.
[04:10] <mike_> Don_jr: you do need to be able to use a lot of logic and reasoning skills.
[04:10] <h00t> thank you it worked
[04:10] <sethk> Don_jr, I encourage you to learn, because you can save work, but it is optional
[04:10] <Sarra_> I wanna learn C
[04:10] <h00t> can i do that in debian
[04:10] <cfedde> Sarra_: go for it!
[04:10] <Madpilot> Don_jr, there's 18000 packages in Ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile. Besides, you don't need to know programming to compile, actually.
[04:10] <mike_> Don_jr: are you sure you're not trolling
[04:10] <tehsu> theme
[04:10] <sethk> Sarra_, C is actually an easy language, don't be aafraid of it.
[04:10] <tehsu> er
[04:10] <distantbody> I'm running windows on Ubuntu right now, with a second instance of Ubuntu axting as a server, Thanks to VMWare:)
[04:10] <Don_jr> reading books about linux/unix the cshel, sshell and compiling things.....
[04:10] <tnzr> Don_jr: you may have to compile a program here and there but its not difficult
[04:10] <profoX> Don_jr: to get Really into linux, a bit of bash knowledge might help ;) but for the rest you don't have to learn anything
[04:10] <wweasel> Opinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?
[04:11] <Don_jr> trolling?
[04:11] <xepher> ...
[04:11] <sethk> Don_jr, don't use cshell, it's old and awful
[04:11] <tnzr> you dont have to know how to program to build a package, usually you just have to type "make; make install"
[04:11] <Don_jr> bash?
[04:11] <profoX> mike_: are You sure you're not trolling :)
[04:11] <sethk> Don_jr, bash is good, and zsh is even better
[04:11] <nich0s> Hey allz, I would just like to say Ubuntu rocks my face off...
[04:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Don_jr about cli
[04:11] <nich0s> That is all.
[04:11] <wweasel> Don_jr: Bash is the command line in Linux
[04:11] <sethk> anybody here who uses ignore is trolling by definition
[04:11] <profoX> Don_jr: bash is the language that you write on the "terminal"
[04:11] <mike_> profoX: uh, no.  no idea how you would even think that.
[04:11] <profoX> mike_: just asking ;)
[04:11] <JackMacOKC> nich0s: well how do you see then?
[04:11] <mike_> is there a way to do like the hardware configuration that happens at install again?
[04:11] <sethk> Don_jr, bash is one option to use as the command line in ubuntu
[04:11] <mike_> profoX: heh, ok :-)
[04:11] <Don_jr> similar to dos?  kinda like ls for list files, I read that somewhere
[04:12] <Sarra_> I'm learning Java, so C should be easy to pick up in the future
[04:12] <sethk> wweasel, it's inaccurate to say bash is "the command line".  just one option
[04:12] <Madpilot> Don_jr, similar - see the PM that ubotu just sent you
[04:12] <profoX> Don_jr: yes, but bash is way better and more complex
[04:12] <tnzr> Don_jr: ls is a command, bash is the shell in which you execute that command
[04:12] <sethk> Don_jr, I run zsh in windows because the windows shell is so awful, but I suppose there are similarities
[04:12] <wweasel> sethk: yep, an oversimplification.
[04:12] <Don_jr> oh sheesh, didn't even notice it.
[04:12] <tnzr> Don_jr: kind of like how COmmand.com is the shell you execute the "dir" command in at a dos promp
[04:12] <tnzr> t
[04:12] <distantbody> Bourne-Again SHell  a pun (Bourne again / born again) on the Bourne shell (sh) - an early, important Unix shell written by Stephen Bourne and distributed with Version 7 Unix, circa 1978. bash was created in 1987 by Brian Fox. In 1990, Chet Ramey became the primary maintainer.
[04:12] <sethk> wweasel, zsh is so good, and many people don't even know they have choices.
[04:12] <mike_> sethk: ooh.  interesting.  I use cygwin install to get a usable shell....
[04:13] <mike_> so no one has a clue about my wireless problem ?
[04:13] <sethk> mike_, cygwin shell is bash, but you can also run it with zsh
[04:13] <wweasel> nope
[04:13] <tnzr> mike: whats the wireless problem?
[04:13] <Don_jr> thanx for that link. I'll be bookmarking that
[04:13] <tnzr> sorry I didnt see you talking about it earlier
[04:13] <Don_jr> tnzr thanx, that makes sense
[04:13] <wweasel> Opinon question: I want an app to rip CDs. Sound Juicer is annoying in that it requires customizing gstreamer arguments to change bitrate, cbr/vbr, etc. Suggestion?
[04:13] <VOYAGER> mike_, i tried you wouldnt listen
[04:13] <tnzr> Don_jr: no prob
[04:13] <nich0s> JackMacOKC, It doesn't rick my head off, nor my tendons, muscles, or eyes,
[04:13] <nich0s> JackMacOKC, Just the flesh making up my face.
[04:13] <louis__> how can i get a process's pid? for example,i run xmms,then how can i know the process used by xmms and the pid.use command top?
[04:13] <JackMacOKC> nich0s: :)
[04:13] <tnzr> louis__: ps -ef |grep xmms
[04:13] <sethk> louis__, ps aux | grep xmms
[04:14] <wweasel> sethk: What do you use to rip CDs?
[04:14] <Don_jr> Okay, being a windows idget all my life.  How will learning to program in bash, c, what ever language is needed make things better for me?
[04:14] <profoX> louis__: ps -e|grep xmms
[04:14] <sethk> wweasel, I still use cdrecord and utilities to create the image
[04:14] <profoX> ok enough options to choose from
[04:14] <wweasel> Don_jr: It's not necessary to learn how to program in bash or anything.
[04:14] <Sarra_> Unless you're creating your own apps, it won't help at all Don_jr
[04:14] <JackMacOKC> Don_jr: becuase then you can effectively compile and repair things, everything
[04:14] <louis__> thanks very much:)
[04:14] <Don_jr> ok
[04:14] <sethk> ps has many options because both the bsd and system V syntax is supported
[04:14] <nich0s> JackMacOKC, So gimme stuff to play with that will make me love it even more.  I will even take interesting reading. :P
[04:14] <tnzr> Don_jr: you only need to know how to program in bash if you want to write scripts to automate certain tasks
[04:14] <Don_jr> so it's more for trouble shooting than anything at this point?
[04:14] <madman-> i installed freepops but i dont know if it's started or running. how can i know these things ?
[04:14] <Madpilot> Don_jr, small bash scripts can be helpful for stuff you do repeatedly, but really, you can use Ubuntu without learning anything beyond very basic command line stuff
[04:15] <Sarra_> What the heck
[04:15] <mike_> VOYAGER: You said "login as sudo".  I was promoptly informed by twelve other people in channel that you were full of crap
[04:15] <Nameless> help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?
[04:15] <distantbody> Don_jr You need to learn how to COMMAND you computer, not program for it...
[04:15] <Don_jr> great
[04:15] <JackMacOKC> nich0s: sudo apt-get install streamtuner
[04:15] <sethk> madman-, ps aux will show you running processes
[04:15] <Sarra_> I unplugged my laptop, and now I have a power meter? Why didn't this ever show up before?
[04:15] <Don_jr> okay
[04:15] <madman-> looking
[04:15] <tnzr> Don_jr: its not for troubleshooting but it can be.. you can do all sorts of stuff with bash once you get good at it.. but its not a requirement.  lots of weathered *nix users dont know the first thing about shell scripting
[04:15] <profoX> mike_: code of conduct please
[04:15] <VOYAGER> if you want to change those settings you must be as ubuntus root which is su
[04:15] <mike_> http://pastebin.ca/146994
[04:15] <tnzr> mike: what are you trying to do and what kind of card is it
[04:15] <sethk> shell scripting saves a lot of work, frequently, but you can survive easily without it.
[04:16] <Nameless> help :\
[04:16] <wikijeff> Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!
[04:16] <mike_> tnzr: http://pastbin.ca/146994 that is all the details you should need
[04:16] <tnzr> VOYAGER: ubuntus' root user is "root" .. su is a command used to become another user (usually to become root)
[04:16] <mark__> ack
[04:16] <JackMacOKC> Nameless: which key?
[04:16] <Don_jr> Okay so I could tell it that when I open firefox it automatically logs me into gaim at the same time?  things like that?
[04:16] <tnzr> mike: looking
[04:16] <louis__> yeah,i got it!thanks!
[04:16] <mike_> VOYAGER: what other guy say.  see above
[04:16] <VOYAGER> tnzr if your so smart help him
[04:16] <Nameless> the key for Xgl
[04:16] <distantbody> Sarra System>preferences>power management
[04:16] <tnzr> VOYAGER: im trying :)
[04:16] <VOYAGER> dont critisize
[04:17] <tnzr> i didnt criticize, I just informed you so you wouldnt go around thinking the wrong thing :)
[04:17] <nich0s> JackMacOKC, Wassat?
[04:17] <Madpilot> Don_jr, you could create a little script that starts both firefox & gaim when you run it, yeah
[04:17] <VOYAGER> he wont change it as the user
[04:17] <Don_jr> Okay, that's cool.  Deffinatly couldn't do that with any ease in windows XP
[04:17] <JackMacOKC> nich0s: its the command to install the package streamtuner. in a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install streamtuner' to install the streamtuner program
[04:17] <madman-> sethk: ok found it. it's running. very nice, thank you
[04:17] <mike_> Uhm, unless I miss something, there is no root user in ubuntu.  the first user acct created has full sudo rights though.
[04:17] <erika> hi :)
[04:18] <tehsu> mike_: bad card
[04:18] <tnzr> mike: is your card eth1? eth0?
[04:18] <mike_> tehsu: No, it works in another machine.
[04:18] <profoX> erika: hi
[04:18] <mike_> tnzr: wlan0
[04:18] <distantbody> For those who need to learn how to do simple linux commands, I highly recommend Tuxfiles.com
[04:18] <tnzr> mike: id root
[04:18] <tehsu> mike_: not supported very well
[04:18] <profoX> mike_: there is aroot user but it has no password by default iirc
[04:18] <tehsu> mike_: and root is in ubuntu
[04:18] <erika> ty profoX
[04:18] <mike_> tehsu: google sez it works
[04:18] <tehsu> mike_: driver
[04:18] <Nameless> super key =  left win key
[04:18] <tnzr> mike: iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed
[04:18] <tnzr> that will take it out of ad-hoc mode
[04:18] <mike_> profoX: ok, my point is, there is no 'su' user or whatever VOYAGER was tellin gme
[04:18] <Nameless> how i can enable it ?
[04:18] <sethk> tehsu, that's correct, su in ubuntu is the same as all other distros
[04:18] <mike_> tnzr: ty, I think that what I need.... I can't get it out of adhoc, I try now
[04:18] <madman-> distantbody: thank you
[04:19] <tehsu> sethk: yup
[04:19] <sethk> and there _is_ a root password for all the install options except desktop
[04:19] <tnzr> mike_: is your wireless router running dhcp?
[04:19] <nich0s> JackMacOKC, I got that much, but what is the "streamtuner" program?
[04:19] <Morpse> I
[04:19] <tnzr> i use root even as desktop
[04:19] <mike_> tnzr: yes
[04:19] <JackMacOKC> nich0s: you said you wanted to see something cool. so install it and see
[04:19] <mike_> tnzr: laptop right by this one use wifi now
[04:19] <tehsu> sudo passwd root set new passwd and then u can become root
[04:19] <sethk> that is, the root password is set during install for other installation types
[04:19] <madman-> the madman runs over to tuxfiles.com
[04:19] <distantbody> you don't need to useapt-get, Synaptic is much better for the command line-disinclined
[04:19] <tnzr> mike: ok what kind of encryption is your router using?
[04:19] <Morpse> I've got a gateway tablet pc, is there a driver to get the pen working?
[04:19] <tnzr> mike: WEP/WPA2/etc?
[04:20] <Nameless> (04:16) <JackMacOKC> Nameless: which key? <--- left win key
[04:20] <sethk> Morpse, there are a couple of tablet drivers.  do you know the internals?
[04:20] <mike_> tnzr: can you see the private messagee ?
[04:20] <tnzr> yes
[04:20] <distantbody> tnzr, oblig YOUR CRAZY comment...;)
[04:20] <mike_> ok
[04:20] <sethk> Morpse, analogous to knowing that a touchpad is a particular type
[04:20] <mike_> I'm rebooting mike's machine
[04:20] <mike_> usb light not on
[04:20] <tnzr> distantbody: hehe how come :)
[04:20] <tnzr> ok
[04:21] <wikijeff> Should I see my touchpad in /proc/bus/input/devices??? If I don't see it there, how else can I figure out which handlers it is using and if the computer is detecting it? Right now my touchpad isn't working and isn't showing up in /proc/bus/input/devices, thanks!
[04:21] <Morpse> XP calls it a Finepoint inovations tablet
[04:21] <birdfish> So how is the new Ubuntu Server 6.0 LTS?
[04:21] <birdfish> I'm at college and haven't been home in a while to install and test it out :(
[04:21] <mcquaid> hello, i just put a new drive and created about a 70 gig partition (ext3) but its already reporting some used
[04:21] <distantbody> tnzr: are you SERIOUS!?
[04:21] <tnzr> distantbody: about what?
[04:21] <mcquaid> /dev/hdd2              71G  129M   68G   1% /mnt/newlin
[04:21] <sethk> birdfish, it's fine, but I recommend installing breezy, and waiting a few weeks more for dapper
[04:21] <nickv111> Hello. I'm using multiverse, and I'm wondering, where is sun-java5-bin?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> mcquaid, that is the file system
[04:21] <nickv111> apt-cache search doesn't turn it up
[04:21] <JackMacOKC> Nameless: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[04:21] <forbidden_fruit> how do i find out the amount of free space on a drive in ubuntu? is there a partition manager?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> some will be used
[04:22] <mcquaid> nothing is there, and how does 129m make a 3 gig difference
[04:22] <Jamminpotato> i <3 ubuntu
[04:22] <birdfish> sethk: so 6.06 is Dapper then?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> forbidden_fruit, df -Th
[04:22] <madman-> distantbody: just a little help, thats all a person needs. very nice site @_@
[04:22] <sethk> birdfish, right
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> simple command
[04:22] <Nameless> JackMacOKC: i don't use Gnome, i use Xfce4
[04:22] <distantbody> tnzr: Do you really login as root by default?...
[04:22] <Nameless> :\
[04:22] <erika> I haven't been here in a couple of months... switched from winders to ubuntu at the intro of breezy... been banging my hammer on my PC for a while now. Most things work... thought I'd pop in and ask a few ? :)
[04:22] <forbidden_fruit> nomasteryoda: that command?
[04:22] <forbidden_fruit> ty
[04:22] <profoX> birdfish: yes 6.06 is dapper drake
[04:22] <birdfish> sethk: Upgrading from Breezy server to Dapper shouldn't be a problem later, should it?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:22] <tnzr> distantbody: yeah or I su - to root whenever I need to do root things
[04:22] <mcquaid> nomasteryoda, doesn't something look wrong there in it reported 129 used yet 71G vs 68G?
[04:22] <sethk> birdfish, it's easy to upgrade
[04:22] <JackMacOKC> Nameless: sorry, then i cant help you there. you should specify these things when asking your question, fyi.
[04:22] <profoX> birdfish: it shouldn't, but you never know (certain hardware problems etc)
[04:23] <quintin> nickv111: search for 'jre' in synaptic and you'll find it
[04:23] <birdfish> sethk: I was just looking forward to having an automated LAMP installer =)
[04:23] <birdfish> Which brings me to my next point
[04:23] <forbidden_fruit> ty nomasteryoda
[04:23] <forbidden_fruit> :)
[04:23] <sethk> birdfish, you can install that version if you don't mind a few minor glitches
[04:23] <nickv111> quintin: I did. I can't install it
[04:23] <birdfish> Is the automated LAMP installer packaged with Apache 1.3 or 2.2?
[04:23] <tnzr> distantbody: i dont like having to type sudo in front of every command I do as root.. im too fast, I need my own root shell
[04:23] <supernix> I thought about installing ubuntu but when I went to try and install ubuntu-desktop it gave a warning about breaking but did not say what it would break
[04:23] <nickv111> quintin: It doesn't seem to exist in my collection of packages, or apt would turn it up
[04:23] <sethk> birdfish, hash to be v2
[04:23] <Nameless> (04:15) <Nameless> help, how i can enable "super" key with xorg.conf ?
[04:23] <Nameless> i have specified
[04:23] <Nameless> :\
[04:24] <sethk> supernix, give us the exact message, we'll tell you what it means
[04:24] <supernix> oh I also am the proud owner of the Official Ubuntu Linux book
[04:24] <lupine_85> question about ubuntu's various kernels
[04:24] <distantbody> tnzr: Yeah, well everyone needs to use "superuser do" (sudo)
[04:24] <tnzr> distantbody: I dont run X as root and sit around as root when im just computing in general :)
[04:24] <Don_jr> so how much work will I be doing out of the shell instead of in the desktop like view?
[04:24] <birdfish> sethk: hash (meaning open up the package config and manually set?)
[04:24] <Morpse> is the book worth getting if you already have the hacks book?
[04:24] <Don_jr> and what is 'X'?
[04:24] <Madpilot> Don_jr, not much, unless you break something ;)
[04:24] <supernix> sethk: it does not give any message just said break how can I find out what the message might be ?
[04:24] <tehsu> Whats a good desktop monitor?
[04:24] <sethk> birdfish, was that pointed at me?
[04:24] <lupine_85> would a kernel built for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?
[04:24] <Madpilot> Don_jr, X is the desktop/graphical server
[04:24] <birdfish> sethk: I'm coming from BSD land =P It's been a really long time since I've installed ubuntu =)
[04:24] <mcquaid> so ext3 always takes 129 megs?
[04:25] <birdfish> sethk: yep.  I just wanted to clarify what you meant by "hash"
[04:25] <mcquaid> seems like a lot for the filesystem
[04:25] <sethk> supernix, it can't just say break things, it has to say something about what you are doing.  Do you mean during the boot loader installation?
[04:25] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[04:25] <Don_jr> server? so X is what i"m looking at during this ubuntu install, that looks similar to windows?
[04:25] <sethk> birdfish, sorry, typo, I meant has to be v2
[04:25] <profoX> mcquaid: i think it reserves a percentage of your available space instead of a solid value..
[04:25] <distantbody> tnzr: Oh, I thought thats what you meant...:)
[04:25] <sethk> Don_jr, well, similar is in the eye of the beholder, but it's the gui
[04:25] <Madpilot> Don_jr, "the X server" is the base of the whole graphical enviroment in Linux, more or less.
[04:25] <tnzr> hehe
[04:25] <birdfish> sethk: Ah, sweet, thanks.  And also, if you don't mind... What are a couple of the biggest bugs I might find in Dapper?
[04:25] <sethk> Don_jr, X is the gui, gnome (or kde) (typically) is the desktop
[04:25] <profoX> mcquaid: you can override it but thats not advised
[04:26] <supernix> nah
[04:26] <sethk> birdfish, there seem to be cases where the install doesn't complete.  very few, but a few.
[04:26] <Morpse> Don_jr, think of linux more windows 3.1 and dos. X is the gui that runs over the consol
[04:26] <supernix> I was running adept and trying to do an install while running Kubuntu
[04:26] <mcquaid> profoX, i guess i'll leave it, but what does it reserve it for?
[04:26] <Don_jr> okay, sorry to be a dope, what's the difference between 'gnome' and the 'gui' it's self.
[04:26] <birdfish> sethk: Hm... Sounds like Windows =P
[04:26] <Don_jr> so gnome it's self is running X and X is what I see?
[04:26] <tnzr> gnome is a window manager for X
[04:26] <sethk> Don_jr, gui is a generic term, graphical user interface
[04:26] <birdfish> I'm excited! :D
[04:26] <VOYAGER> birdfish, ive had 2 fail to a command line because of video
[04:26] <distantbody> GUI = graphical user interface
[04:27] <tnzr> Don_jr: if you installed X without a window manager, youd start it up and see a black/white crosshatched pattern as the background with a little "x" mouse cursor
[04:27] <Morpse> gnome is the windows manager, gnome runs on top of X to give buttons and window borders and the like
[04:27] <sethk> Don_jr, a desktop is software that runs on a gui
[04:27] <profoX> mcquaid: i'm not sure how it works - you should google on it - or check the man page
[04:27] <distantbody> GUI is a very generic term...
[04:27] <tnzr> Don_jr: then you run something like gnome or KDE or Fluxbox or what have you, and suddenly it becomes pretty
[04:27] <erika> I got a letter from the ntsb today informing me that somebody stole a laptop that had the names, ss numbers and a whole lot of "identity theft applicable" data on it. That got me to wondering... is Linux still as secure as it was last november?
[04:27] <lupine_85> erm, rephrasing... would a kernel *module* compiled with linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 run under linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 ?
[04:27] <mcquaid> btw, this disks-admin utility, I enabled the partitions there.  It doesn't seem to touch fstab, does this survive a reboot?
[04:27] <sethk> Don_jr, in windows that distinction doesn't exist, unix is more more intelligently layered
[04:27] <Don_jr> oh wow, I got lot's to learn.
[04:27] <sethk> s/more more/much more/
[04:27] <birdfish> VOYAGER: so you issued a graphical command without having X installed?  Or you didn't install X and issuing any command crashes the system anyhow?
[04:27] <sethk> can't type
[04:27] <mcquaid> it would be nice if there is a gui means of permenately enabled partitions without hacking fstab
[04:27] <profoX> mcquaid: check your pm
[04:27] <Madpilot> erika, I don't get the connection between a stolen NTSB laptop & Ubuntu?
[04:27] <Don_jr> so X is the shell of the 'gui' per se?
[04:28] <profoX> oh damn im not logged in
[04:28] <Madpilot> Don_jr, more or less
[04:28] <sethk> birdfish, I think he just means that a couple of apps didn't run for him
[04:28] <VOYAGER> x wouldnt install because of video failed to cli
[04:28] <tnzr> mcquaid: theyre out there IT hink.. ive seen gui fdisk managers & stuff
[04:28] <Don_jr> ok
[04:28] <mcquaid> profoX, pm?
[04:28] <mcquaid> do you mean parted?
[04:28] <sethk> mcquaid, pm is private message
[04:28] <sethk> mcquaid, an IRC thing
[04:28] <nickv111> For some reason, sun-java5-bin doesn't exist in my repository
[04:28] <profoX`> mcquaid: no i mean private message in irc -- hold on
[04:28] <nickv111> s/repository/apt cache
[04:28] <sethk> nickv111, doesn't exist in mine, either
[04:28] <mcquaid> thats what I thought at first, but i have no pm
[04:29] <birdfish> VOYAGER: Ah, I see.  I'm pretty sure that I won't be running X from the start anyhow, but I would hope something that major would be patched quickly anyhow
[04:29] <distantbody> mcquaid: It can all be found under System>administator
[04:29] <nickv111> sethk: I'm in multiverse
[04:29] <nickv111> sethk: Know why that would be?
[04:29] <BSG75> hi how do I make ndiswrapper work with ubuntu please? it is already installed and the windows driver is already installed .. however ubuntu thinks it has setup my nic correctly under eth0 .. I have done modprobe ndiswrapper .. but I don't see wlan0
[04:29] <VOYAGER> birdfish,  ok
[04:29] <wweasel> Help please? I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. (yes, the volume is on, yes sound works in other programs)
[04:29] <sethk> nickv111, I downloaded from sun.java.com instead of using the package manager.  the package does exist; I don't know the repository
[04:29] <sethk> nickv111, there are things not in the "official" repositories
[04:29] <Don_jr> sheesh this looks confusing...what's with the dw--w--d-d in front of the file names?
[04:29] <sethk> Don_jr, d means directory
[04:30] <birdfish> I've just noted the vibrant green warning about a patch fix (error).  Sounds like they might have fixed part of the X system earlier today.
[04:30] <sethk> Don_jr, the privileges are for owner, group, and other
[04:30] <sethk> Don_jr, r is read priv, w is write priv, x is execute priv
[04:30] <VOYAGER> yeah
[04:30] <erika> Madpilot... I'm a professional pilot. I assume the reason they contacted me was that the laptop belonged to an faa employee that lost his/her laptop. The laptop was florida pilot specific.
[04:30] <mcquaid> so is there a way gui of keeping a partition mounted (survive reboots) without mucking with fstab?  not sure if disks-admin does this
[04:30] <distantbody>  Don_jr: GOTO http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[04:30] <Madpilot> Don_jr, read/write/execute privs - basically, who is allowed to do what w/ the file
[04:30] <profoX`> mcphail: so 5%  is reserved by default to avoid fragmentation and for processes like syslogd to keep functioning and to have space reserved for su
[04:30] <louis__> tell you a piece good news,i have just received a parcel of ubuntu live cd Version 6.06 sent by from the Netherlands,hoho,hehe
[04:30] <Don_jr> wow....this is gonna get fun
[04:30] <taychouri-a> WADDUPP!! I need an mp3 decoder
[04:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> WHATUP!!
[04:31] <taychouri-a> lol
[04:31] <nich0s> taychouri-a, I bet you do :P
[04:31] <valehru_> Is there any firewall in ubuntu that gives you notifications of what is trying to access the network, and you can deny or approve it?  Much along the lines of Zone Alarm in windows (yuck)
[04:31] <taychouri-a> ;P
[04:31] <Madpilot> erika, well, unless  your Ubuntu system password was on that laptop, it's not going to affect your Ubuntu install - or anyone else's
[04:31] <nalpha> guys there is flash creator like macromedia flash in windows for ubuntu?
[04:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> SOUP'D!
[04:31] <birdfish> louis__: That's awesome.  I'm just now setting up an account so that I can have a bunch of cd's shipped to me.  I'm going to hand them out around campus =)
[04:31] <taychouri-a> nich0s: so fo real i need one
[04:31] <erika> Madpilot... you fly?
[04:31] <nickv111> sethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/sun-java5-bin
[04:31] <lupine_85> nobody know? Or am I just going to have to test it? :(
[04:31] <sethk> nickv111, thanks
[04:31] <Tonren> How do I find out which user a process is running as?
[04:31] <nickv111> sethk: It's in the repository. It's just not in my cache for some odd reason
[04:31] <profoX`> lupine_85: what?
[04:32] <sethk> nickv111, Might need to update
[04:32] <lupine_85> "would a kernel modulebuilt for, say, 2.6.15-26-386 work in, say, 2.6.15-26-k7 ?"
[04:32] <Madpilot> erika, yeah, PPL, working on CPL
[04:32] <sethk> nickv111, the cache, not your system
[04:32] <BSG75> anyone here knows how to get ndiswrapper to work ?
[04:32] <profoX`> lupine_85: no - i don't think so
[04:32] <nickv111> sethk: I've already done "apt-get update" multiple times
[04:32] <louis__> good idea!
[04:32] <louis__> birdfish
[04:32] <eternalswd> nickv111, do you have security updates in your sources?
[04:32] <nickv111> eternalswd: No.
[04:32] <lupine_85> sulk
[04:32] <nickv111> eternalswd: Is that necessary?
[04:32] <nickv111> eternalswd: If so, thanks!
[04:32] <birdfish> BSG75: is that the nvidia wrapper?
[04:33] <profoX`> birdfish: no
[04:33] <eternalswd> nickv111, I have a newer version, so it might be I don't know
[04:33] <erika> Madpilot... I'm not worried about my install... I'm just curious about the present state of linux security.
[04:33] <lupine_85> ah well, thanks for the answer :)
[04:33] <BSG75> birdfish: no it's to get wireless nic to work
[04:33] <profoX`> birdfish: its the wireless driver wrapper
[04:33] <tehsu> How can i monitor and utilize
[04:33] <sethk> erika, the safety of linux is really unknown, as it isn't strongly attacked.  vandals like to attach where they do the most damage
[04:33] <tehsu> the cpu
[04:33] <birdfish> Ah, see, it's been a hella long time since I've run graphical in *nix land
[04:33] <tehsu> and turn down the voltage
[04:33] <Madpilot> erika, "much better than MS's security", is the short version
[04:33] <profoX`> birdfish: to wrap wireless windows network drivers and make them usable on linux
[04:33] <birdfish> Ah, never ran into wireless issues either.  But now that I'm getting a lappy, I might :D
[04:33] <BSG75> I wish dapper didn't try to install wireless like the older version .. now I don't know howto take off eth0 that it thinks I need
[04:33] <valehru_> birdfish, then how are you running IRC?
[04:33] <VOYAGER> BSG75, shure the card needs  ndis wrapper /
[04:33] <BSG75> and I can't get wlan0 either
[04:33] <sethk> tehsu, that's part of power management.  the utilities themselves are ... I think of it  ...
[04:34] <BSG75> under iwconfig .. I can configure the card
[04:34] <birdfish> valehru_: Windows terminal on a college campus? 0_o
[04:34] <sethk> BSG75, bring up the network administration tool and disable that interface
[04:34] <sethk> BSG75, it's easy to turn one off
[04:34] <valehru_> Ahh
[04:34] <erika> Oh... and I'm se com inst and atp me, cfii, fe-tj cfii
[04:34] <taychouri-a> I need an Mp3 decoder, anyone wanan help me out
[04:34] <nickv111> BIBA
[04:34] <BSG75> thanks I am looking into it right now sethk
[04:34] <nickv111> BIAB*
[04:34] <Don_jr> wow, that link is great on teh common commands.  Thanx alot I'll be refferencing it often in the next couple of days
[04:34] <tehsu> sethk: well my gpu fan is running like crazy and its draining the battery much quicker than it should
[04:34] <birdfish> valehru_: lol, why would I need to be running wireless to utilize IRC?
[04:34] <BSG75> afk
[04:34] <supernix> does anyone know why adept has the word break when you try to install ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:34] <nich0s> taychouri-a, I would if I knew the first thing about this OS. :P
[04:35] <Madpilot> Don_jr, the BasicCommands one? glad it works :)
[04:35] <valehru_> birdfish, I just read about you not running graphically
[04:35] <der0b> taychouri-a: have you checked the restricted formats page on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:35] <taychouri-a> thanks nich0s
[04:35] <valehru_> birdfish, nothing about wireless...
[04:35] <lupine_85>  profox: I'm repo'ing some binary kernel modules, and all these different compiled-for versions are getting on my nerves
[04:35] <bruenig> how would one schedule an even to happen with crontab. I am aware of how to format the line, but can you just edit the crontab file directly or is there some other way you must go about it
[04:36] <birdfish> valehru_: Ah.  That's just with my servers.  Most of my desktops have been windows stations (mainly because I have to run so much windows only software on campus :/ )
[04:36] <xepher> anyone know of a program that can browse/edit/add files to ext2/3 filesystems under windows?
[04:36] <birdfish> valehru_: it sucks, I know :)
[04:36] <sethk> bruenig, you can edit it.  I believe a front end exists also
[04:36] <lupine_85> crontab -e works well
[04:36] <Elda> Hello
[04:36] <sethk> xepher, once drivers for ext2/3 are installed, you use the same tools as for any other files on windows
[04:36] <nich0s> xepher, YES!
[04:36] <sethk> xepher, windows exploder, for example
[04:36] <Sitouh> I am trying to get my wireless card to connect to a WPA network. I've installed Network Manager, but it's still not giving me WPA as a connection option
[04:36] <Elda> Windows exploded?
[04:36] <valehru_> birdfish, indeed it does...but there comes a rare time when windows is needed....thats why I have a disk here somewhere...thank god that that rare time has never happened
[04:37] <zengxiaolong> hello
[04:37] <xepher> sethk, where can i find these drivers? i need to backup some files from windows-> linux
[04:37] <erika> According to CBS news in USA tonight one third of all US computers are hijacked by progs that transmit keystrokes and other user data to crooks.
[04:37] <sethk> xepher, I don't have the URL, anybody here know the url for downloading ext2/3 drivers for windows?
[04:37] <viator_> Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module
[04:37] <sethk> xepher, I'll do a quick search.
[04:37] <xepher> sethk, same
[04:37] <viator_> how do i get rid of that
[04:37] <birdfish> valehru_: =) Lucky you.  What other operating systems do you run? (other than ubuntu)  Any BSD's or other flavors that you really like?
[04:37] <nich0s> xepher, I'll get you the name of my proggie, one sec.
[04:37] <valehru_> the name is ext2ifs
[04:37] <erika> Now... we all know they are windows PCs
[04:37] <Don_jr> Will this thing pop up and tell me when it's done installing?  It's been going for about an hour now
[04:38] <viator_> i mean what do i need
[04:38] <Elda> Erika Im assuing 99% of these 1/3 are using windows?
[04:38] <viator_> i got kernel headers thats not it
[04:38] <Elda> and the other 1% mac ;)
[04:38] <distantbody> xepher: Just mount your windows partition and copy the files off of it onto  your linux partition, do you need instructions...?
[04:38] <nich0s> ext2ifs
[04:38] <tehsu> im trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:38] <sethk> xepher, e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[04:38] <nich0s> xepher, ext2ifs
[04:38] <UncleOp22> Snagged 6.06 LTS (Desktop) and tried to play with it.  Short report: it hangs after a few minutes of "fiddling" when booted from CDROM.  System details: dual P2/450, 256MB ram, SCSI hard drives (via LSI Logic), cheapo RTL8139-compatible NIC, Matrox Mystique video card.  Runs fine under RH9; I'm exploring ubuntu as a replacement.  Hangs occur after setting up static IP for the NIC (DHCP not currently working, but I'll try that next).  I can bring up 
[04:38] <erika> Elda... yah... that's why I only have Linux on my HD
[04:38] <xepher> distantbody, was thinking about doing it from my windows partition... have a little more visual control of where the important ones are
[04:38] <nich0s> xepher, it works... doesn't unmount the file system when shutting down windows though
[04:39] <viator_> tehsu got somthing else
[04:39] <xepher> nich0s: thanks
[04:39] <erika> It's absolutely insane
[04:39] <viator_> using apt
[04:39] <xepher> sethk, thanks
[04:39] <sethk> xepher, this is better,  www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[04:39] <viator_> like synaptic
[04:39] <RamiKassab> hey guys what's a good screenshot program for linux? I use SnagIt for windows and it does scrolling window screenshots and is totally feature packed. Is there anything comparible for linux?
[04:39] <valehru_> birdfish, Well I was always a debian fan, used RH 8 for a while.  A friend of mine is trying to get me to use Dyne:bolic distro for some reason...he seems to like it
[04:39] <viator_> AND the cli
[04:39] <xepher> sethk, just found that page
[04:39] <Elda> I am still learning to use Linux atm so  atm Win is still my larger partitoin -_-
[04:39] <viator_> or mutiple tabs in the cli
[04:39] <sethk> xepher, ok, good
[04:39] <xepher> sethk, It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).
[04:39] <Elda> Though Ive not used windows in 4 days now! </proud>
[04:39] <Don_jr> I'm on a windows computer right now, installing my first ever *nix system on my laptop beside me.
[04:39] <xepher> :)
[04:39] <eternalswd> xepher, if you want to backup files from windows to linux, just copy them in linux, it's much safer than writing to ext3 from windows.  If you're trying to backup from linux to windows, then use fs-driver
[04:40] <Elda> Will probably have to go on windows later though as I want to work on some stuff in 3ds >.<
[04:40] <sethk> xepher, I agree, if possible write to ext2/3 from linux and only read it in windows
[04:40] <xepher> sethk, eternalswd: alright, i'll try that... be right back
[04:40] <valehru_> The NTFS support in nix has improved a lot, use the nix drivers
[04:40] <sethk> Elda, often you can't get entirely away from it, but that's ok
[04:40] <xepher> sethk, eternalswd: rebooting to lin
[04:40] <eternalswd> xepher, even just reading using the ext3 driver caused me a blue screen
[04:40] <sethk> valehru, it's improved, but it is still dangerous and can corrupt the file system
[04:41] <verbose> what packages do i need to remove and add to get rid of kde stuff in kubuntu and run ubuntu with gnome?
[04:41] <birdfish> valehru_: I've seen dyne:bolic around, but never looked into it.  I'll go check it out now.
[04:41] <valehru_> well.....yeah...but the windows ones are worse.
[04:41] <eternalswd> xepher, though who knows if it was the drivers fault or some random combination of events
[04:41] <sethk> verbose, just install gnome desktop, don't try to "get rid of" kde
[04:41] <erika> Elda... I am sooooooo pissed at Microsoft I doubt I will EVER boot windows on my PC again.
[04:41] <Elda> I noticed.... even looking at the games on that tuxgame website or whatever they call it, they try to sell games to play at 2x their price, that and not so many 3d programs out there for it -_-
[04:41] <tehsu> im trying to install gcc4 and i get the following error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) anyone know why i cant apt-get?
[04:41] <Sitouh> Anybody with experience getting WPA to work? I'm trying to get my box onto the wireless network, and Network Manager doesn't seem to want to give me WPA as an option...
[04:41] <sethk> valehru_, ok, I haven't tested extensively myself, so I can't really say which is worse.
[04:41] <valehru_> elda, 3D programs? ever hear of blender?
[04:41] <Elda> Well I enjoy some games when I get to like Eve online, Planet Side, and programs like 3ds-max -_-
[04:42] <verbose> sethk: ok, what's that package name?
[04:42] <Elda> Yep, not as advanced aor as useful as max though
[04:42] <sethk> tehsu, usually because you didn't run with sudo
[04:42] <fiveiron> planetside is awesome
[04:42] <Elda> *or
[04:42] <sethk> tehsu, if not that, then another program (e.g. synaptic) is running and has the lock
[04:42] <Elda> Have used them both and was much happier with max
[04:42] <valehru_> Elda, I think there is a Maya hack to get it working on Nix
[04:42] <profoX`> lupine_85: hey i am wrong..
[04:42] <sethk> verbose, I'll get it, hang on
[04:42] <valehru_> I did it for a mate of mine once
[04:42] <lupine_85> really?
[04:42] <viator_> tehsu yes
[04:42] <tehsu> k
[04:42] <profoX`> lupine_85: 386 kernel modules work fine on 686 / k7 kernel
[04:42] <valehru_> haha
[04:42] <viator_> cause somthing esle is using apt
[04:43] <tehsu> sethk: yeah u were right now it works
[04:43] <valehru_> Elda, who is?
[04:43] <lupine_85> w00t! :D
[04:43] <eternalswd> the best way to share info between linux and windows is a fat32 partition IMO
[04:43] <sethk> verbose, gnome-desktop-environment
[04:43] <viator_> the autoupdater or synaptic  or the add remove programs etc
[04:43] <profoX`> lupine_85: but NOT the other way around
[04:43] <sethk> tehsu, excellent
[04:43] <verbose> sethk: thanks
[04:43] <valehru_> Elda, damm expensive....I do a bit of Rendering, blender suits my needs for the time being...
[04:43] <birdfish> Does Dapper-Desktop ship with gnome 2.14 now?  Or still 2.12?
[04:43] <profoX`> lupine_85: 686/k7 modules don't work on 386 kernel
[04:44] <distantbody> tehsu: System>Administrator>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for gcc, Ps, the message means that the server is busy
[04:44] <Elda> Dur... thats why I wll stick with 3ds for the time being xD
[04:44] <profoX`> birdfish: 2.14
[04:44] <viator_> only one thing can use apt at a time
[04:44] <verbose> sethk: just so i can do it myself next time, is there an easier way of finding that stuff than asking here or like apt-cache search gnome|more
[04:44] <sethk> viator_, correct
[04:44] <erika> Ubuntu does 95% of what I want to do... and it does it well. The other 5% is agravating. I have 2 issues. It won't talk to my camera, and it won't talk to my Battery-backed uninterruptible power supply.
[04:44] <sethk> verbose, I used synaptic and searched for    gnome desk        which finds packages with both words in the name
[04:44] <tehsu> sethk: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:44] <birdfish> profoX`: Woot!
[04:44] <Elda> Question though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?
[04:44] <Berto> hi - my machine just got hacked (short story: i'm a moron), so to be safe, i gotta clean out and reinstall.  I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, but my box is OLD.  Does anyone run ubuntu on 5 year old hardware?
[04:44] <sethk> tehsu, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:44] <RamiKassab> what are the best screenshot apps for linux? I used to use SnagIt for windows but need something for linux now. I need to be able to take scrolling window screenshots
[04:45] <tehsu> oh yeah
[04:45] <Elda> As I cannot apt-get as its on my hd
[04:45] <sethk> Berto, sure
[04:45] <profoX`> Berto: system specs?
[04:45] <Berto> sethk: really?  ubuntu seems to have too slick of graphics for old hardware
[04:45] <eternalswd> RamiKassab, what do you mean by scrolling window screenshots?
[04:45] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[04:45] <valehru_> RamiKassab, PrintScreen + GIMP
[04:45] <fishy> Sound is playing in Banshee and amaroK and other players, but won't work in Pandora.com in Firefox, Flock, or WINE'd Firefox. Any idea what's wrong?
[04:45] <sethk> Berto, I've run it with 10 year old graphics cards
[04:45] <xepher> back
[04:45] <Berto> profoX` and sethk -  AMD Athlon 550MHz, 384mb RAM
[04:45] <sethk> Berto, of course, the performance is lower, but it works
[04:45] <Don_jr> Berto I"m installing it now on a system thats 4 or 5 years old.  P2 500 mghz processor with 256 mg ram.
[04:45] <VOYAGER> im running on 4 p3's
[04:45] <profoX`> Berto: will work fine
[04:45] <Berto> sethk: yeah its ok, Opera sitll runs REAL fast
[04:46] <RamiKassab> eternalswd: where the screenshot app scrolls the window as it's taking a screenshot... like a screenshot of a long web page etc
[04:46] <RamiKassab> valehru: that's not enough for me
[04:46] <sethk> Berto, that's ok, although you may want to use a low overhead desktop such as fluxbox
[04:46] <fishy> The little progress bar isn't even moving - maybe Flash doesn't have access to it?
[04:46] <jman8888> Is there a better way to ssh other than [ssh sever@192.168.0.10 apt-get ...... ]  Its getting annoying typing so much...
[04:46] <Berto> awesome....   i almost bought a new machine, but kernel 2.6 saved me from doing that.
[04:46] <RamiKassab> valehru: GIMP has the ability to take screenshots but it sucks
[04:46] <eternalswd> RamiKassab, would that be one image, or successive?
[04:46] <sethk> Berto, there are a few low overhead desktops; fluxbox is the only one I've tried but several have good reps
[04:46] <RamiKassab> eternalswd: one big image
[04:46] <fishy> Any help? :)
[04:46] <Berto> i will get a new one when i pay my parents the 1000 i owe them first!
[04:46] <profoX`> Berto: i suggest you use xubuntu though, that's faster for your machine than ubuntu/kubuntu, but ubuntu/kubuntu will run fine too -- you can change the desktops after installation too (GNOME/KDE/XFCE)
[04:46] <Berto> sethk: i actually get away with kde just fine here... i like the applets, but might give fluxbox another shot
[04:46] <sethk> jman8888, do ssh sever@xxxxxxxxxxx     and get the prompt, and then type commands at the prompt
[04:46] <RamiKassab> eternalswd: SnagIt for Windows does that among tons of other things, avis, mpegs, etc
[04:47] <w30> RamiKassab, Gnome works nice for screenshots, just hit printscreen button
[04:47] <sethk> Berto, I use kde also, I was just talking about running on old hardware
[04:47] <Berto> profoX`: what is xubuntu?  a desktop flavor or a different version of the distro?
[04:47] <tehsu> !info glib
[04:47] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in dapper
[04:47] <Elda> Question though... I recently downloaded manually a new version of NetworkManager, verion .0.6.4.  Would I have to uninstall .0.6.2 and when I go to install how would I find the command to do so?
[04:47] <sethk> Berto, but sure, try kde, if the performance is acceptable, keep it, if not, change it.
[04:47] <xepher> a long night awaits me! backup files from win->lin, reinstall win, move files, reinstall lin
[04:47] <sethk> xepher, you don't have a spare ide drive to pop in to the box?
[04:47] <RamiKassab> w30: I need something that will scroll the window in the browser though as it's making the screenshot that way I can get a screenshot of a long webpage for example
[04:47] <Warbo> Help, I'm having real problems trying to set up a wireless network. Now that my router has come back to life it is working for wired, but not for wireless. I can't connect to it
[04:48] <Jbirk> I have a VNC poroblem
[04:48] <xepher> sethk: what do you mean? to back up the files?
[04:48] <jman8888> sethk, WOAH! Its like im on my server...
[04:48] <Sitouh> I've got a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card (unsure on chipset) which I'm trying to set up to connect to a WPA wireless network.
[04:48] <distantbody> valehru: Applications>Accessories>Take Screenshot
[04:48] <xepher> sethk: i really need to reformat my windows hd, its really slow
[04:48] <Jbirk> VNC is working, but I keep getting disconnected and it says Unknown Message Type
[04:48] <tjcarter> hey all, I was was going to finally try out the nifty gooey installer thing..  Can't seem to find LVM stuff anywhere.  Need I the alt installer for LVM?
[04:48] <Berto> awesome thanks all...
[04:48] <sethk> xepher, well, sure, if you want, but I was thinking about installing ubuntu on the second disk
[04:48] <sethk> xepher, oh, ok
[04:48] <erika> I tried xubuntu... wanted to love it. I gave up when I tried to set up my printer. Xubuntu is still a geek os.
[04:48] <Jbirk> Help
[04:48] <tehsu> sethk: whats the aptget for glib
[04:48] <xepher> sethk: :)
[04:48] <T3KnO> hello?
[04:48] <sethk> xepher, a second drive will also speed up the backup
[04:48] <sethk> tehsu, I'll look, but, it should be installed as a dependency of whatever is using it.
[04:48] <Don_jr> my goodness Ubuntu takes a while to install....
[04:48] <xepher> sethk: yeah..
[04:48] <profoX`> Sitouh: find out the chipset using google or: lspci|grep Ethernet
[04:48] <T3KnO> can anybody help me with a question about QQ Instant Messenger on Ubuntu?
[04:49] <Warbo> erika: I don't like Xubuntu, just because it doesn't give me enough control
[04:49] <T3KnO> anybody?
[04:49] <profoX`> Don_jr: sarcasm?
[04:49] <xepher> sethk: dont really feel like opening up my computer's guts at the moment (dust, furry animals, etc.)
[04:49] <Elda> To install a file I unzipper would I have to use ./make install or what?
[04:49] <louis__> T3LnO,are u a chinese?
[04:49] <sethk> tehsu, libglib2.0-dev
[04:49] <Warbo> Don_jr: That is because of all the great stuff it comes with
[04:49] <Elda> *unzipped
[04:49] <tehsu> ty
[04:49] <profoX`> xepher: furry what o_O
[04:49] <tehsu> ls
[04:49] <tehsu> er
[04:49] <profoX`> sounds unhealthy
[04:49] <sethk> Don_jr, you can install a minimal system much more quickly
[04:49] <Don_jr> not sarcasm, I wasn't expecting over an hour of nothing but disk spinning...lol
[04:50] <xepher> profoX`: nothing... did i say something? :)
[04:50] <louis__> maybe i can help you ,T3KnO,i use qq
[04:50] <Don_jr> nothign on the screen to show progress, just the disk going crazy! lol
[04:50] <profoX`> I install ubuntu completely in 15 minutes
[04:50] <Don_jr> you have a much faster system than I do profox
[04:50] <profoX`> on 800 Mhz machine Don_jr
[04:50] <Don_jr> mines only 500 mghz and only 256 mg ram
[04:50] <sethk> Don_jr, once the install is done, check whether dma is being used for your drive.  If it isn't, then the install will be slow
[04:50] <profoX`> mine 256MB ram too
[04:50] <Don_jr> and I just hit the install button, it gave me no options at all
[04:51] <Warbo> Can I get some wireless help from someone knowledgable about these things please? I can't talk to my router wirelessly
[04:51] <w30> RamiKassab, donno of any thing like that for anything Microsoft Windows,  Mac,  or Linux so you know more than me which is no big deal ha!
[04:51] <profoX`> Don_jr: thats not right. did you burn the cd yourself?
[04:51] <sethk> Don_jr, there are options with the alternate cd
[04:51] <VOYAGER> very slow if hd is on same channel as cd
[04:51] <Don_jr> sethk after install is done, it won't matter.
[04:51] <Elda> Took me longer to install Ubuntu because I was having a hard time trying to figure out how hard I had to make each partition xD
[04:51] <profoX`> Elda: lol
[04:51] <sethk> Don_jr, sure it will, because you don't want the machine to run slowly forever
[04:51] <Don_jr> profoX yes I DL'd the sio and burnt it myself.
[04:51] <Elda> err how large
[04:51] <profoX`> Don_jr: burnt it on a low speed like 4x ?
[04:51] <profoX`> or 2x even :)
[04:51] <Elda> oh my... that is perverted
[04:51] <xepher> gah.. can someone tell me how to open file explorer as root (so that i can move around my windows drive)
[04:51] <Don_jr> nope, on 12
[04:51] <RamiKassab> w30: lol ok that works... guess I'll have to keep looking around. Windows has got a few great ones but I need one for Linux for some of my work requirements
[04:51] <Elda> ;_;  long day of studying physiology is not good for the brain
[04:52] <Sitouh> profox': It's an Actiontec PCMCIA card - that help?
[04:52] <profoX`> Don_jr: the cd is very sensitive -- when you burn a new one on low speeds it might work fine
[04:52] <taychouri-a> anyone know how to get songs off an ipod on to a linux
[04:52] <T3KnO> Louis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?
[04:52] <janbanan> How do I make the trash-bin appear on the desktop instead of the bottom-bar?
[04:52] <Warbo> !info gtkpod
[04:52] <profoX`> Don_jr: alot of people reported that they had to burn it on 4x to get it working
[04:52] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[04:52] <tjcarter> Sitouh: yeah, insert it into your high capacity paper shredder.
[04:52] <tjcarter> ;)
[04:52] <Don_jr> that's cool, I don't want to start this install all over....you think it would help if I did? burn a new one on 2X and start all over?
[04:52] <Elda> Don_jr, it installs pretty fast imo
[04:52] <Berto> how does ubuntu fit in one 700mb iso??   i'm used to 3 or 4 cds from mandriva....  is there way more downloading later?
[04:53] <Warbo> janbanan: Have a look in Applications>System Tools. Is there an entry @Configuration Editor@?
[04:53] <Sitouh> tjcarter: That bad?
[04:53] <Elda> I was up and running in about 20 ish minutes
[04:53] <wweasel> How do I prevent Sound Juicer from opening automatically when I insert an Audio CD?
[04:53] <Elda> Much niftier than Winbloat
[04:53] <tjcarter> Sitouh: you may be able to get it to work without much fuss, but Actiontec hardware isn't the best.
[04:53] <Don_jr> I'll burn a new one at a slower speed and reformat the HD and try again, see what happens
[04:53] <profoX`> Sitouh: actiontec seems to use atmel drivers..
[04:53] <Warbo> wweasel: System>Preferences>Removable Drives and Media
[04:53] <nich0s> Berto, I have installed Ubuntu 5 times on different systems on a satellite connection and I really don't think that it is that bad.
[04:53] <profoX`> tjcarter: actiontec probably uses chipsets from other vendors like atmel
[04:53] <mindjuju> i'm trying to install the kde interface on the server install of ubuntu but when i type sudo apt-get install kde, it says it can't find the package.  but when i search on packages.ubuntu.com it says the package exists -- any ideas?
[04:53] <louis__> i am sorry,i receive nothing,you can ask you problem here
[04:54] <birdfish> Alright guys, time to log off and get some sleep.  I'll catch up with you all later!
[04:54] <profoX`> Sitouh: what did "lspci | grep Ethernet" give you?
[04:54] <foo> Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?
[04:54] <profoX`> birdfish: bye
[04:54] <louis__> T3Kno
[04:54] <Berto> nich0s: i have a plenty fine connection, i'm just wondering if this 700mb cd is everything or does it download way more?
[04:54] <T3KnO> Louis__ I have send you a private message... have you received it?
[04:54] <tjcarter> profoX`: Probably, yes.
[04:54] <louis__> not yet
[04:54] <tjcarter> in fact, Atmel would be my #1 guess.
[04:54] <erika> anyway... the ntsb sent me a letter... telling me one of their operatives had his laptop stolen. All of the data was pilots in florida. They are telling me to contact the credit people. I flew big jets for a major airline until I aquired the joy of MS last march. Should I worry about this latest identity theft scare?
[04:54] <louis__> what's ur problem?
[04:54] <janbanan> Warbo: No
[04:54] <Sitouh> profoX': So, I have Network Manager installed, as instructed in the help wiki. However, it won't give me WPA security as an option
[04:55] <sethk> mindjuju, I believe kde-desktop-environment
[04:55] <xepher> anyone can tell me how to browse the file system graphically as "root"?
[04:55] <Warbo> janbanan: OK, open up Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor and turn it on (Alacarte can take a while to load)
[04:55] <T3KnO> Well I would like to know how I could register an QQ account and use it?
[04:55] <bruenig> xepher, gksudo nautilus
[04:55] <mindjuju> thx sethk, i'll try that
[04:55] <nich0s> Berto, You and I both know that there is no possible way to fit everything that you want on to a single 700mb CD (unless you are a minimalist). There is enough on the 700mb CD to get you up and running, but there is an additional download of under 200mb. :P
[04:55] <fiveiron> hey anyone play enemy territory?
[04:55] <T3KnO> I have done some research about it, and it seems you need openQ?
[04:55] <profoX`> Sitouh: does the card work without WPA ?
[04:55] <T3KnO> or some kind
[04:55] <xepher> bruenig: thanks
[04:55] <der0b> mindjuju: for the whole kubuntu desktop, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[04:55] <distantbody> Berto: 700mb is all of it, plus +-200mb worth of updates
[04:55] <louis__> you can use lumaqq in ubuntu
[04:55] <Sitouh> It did before I installed Network Manager.
[04:55] <Don_jr> Okay, writing a new disk at 2X
[04:55] <Berto> 900mb is still nothing, but cool nich0s and distantbody ... wasn't sure how lightweight it was
[04:56] <mindjuju> der0b, i tried that one too actually, but it says same thing, can't find package
[04:56] <Jbirk> I have a VNC problem
[04:56] <Jbirk> please help me
[04:56] <Jbirk> My VNc is borken
[04:56] <T3KnO> am I able to register via lunaqq?
[04:56] <Jbirk> When I connect, I get an awful error
[04:56] <wweasel> I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound works in other apps)
[04:56] <Jbirk> randomly
[04:56] <Jbirk> It works great until I get kicked with either
[04:56] <nich0s> Jbirk, What error?
[04:56] <Warbo> wweasel: Try plugging your speakers into the CD drive...
[04:56] <Jbirk> rect too big or unknown message type
[04:56] <xepher> bruenig: works beautifully, thanks
[04:56] <nich0s> Jbirk,  For that matter, what program?>
[04:57] <Jbirk> VNC
[04:57] <janbanan> Warbo: and what do I do there?
[04:57] <Jbirk> I have the server installed on the Ubuntu box
[04:57] <w30> Berto, yep but the Unbuntu cd group that you buy has lots of apps but the download cd is live and has just some of the apps that you will want and you have to get more off the net.
[04:57] <louis__> if you want to register an qq account,you can access http://www.tecent.com.cn
[04:57] <Warbo> janbanan: Have you turned on System Tools>Configuration Editor?
[04:57] <wweasel> Warbo: Laptop. And, CD audio works in Sound Juicer
[04:57] <Jbirk> It is setup with the xinetd internet superserver
[04:57] <janbanan> Warbo: yes
[04:57] <nickv111> Haha
[04:57] <louis__> T3KNO,can you access chinese website?
[04:57] <nickv111> I figured something out
[04:57] <Jbirk> Basically, It does everything I want
[04:58] <nickv111> I was using dapper-backports instead of dapper
[04:58] <Elda> Cripes
[04:58] <nich0s> nickv111, AWESOME!
[04:58] <nickv111> ;)
[04:58] <Jbirk> then it bombs out / crashes
[04:58] <T3KnO> yes I can...
[04:58] <nickv111> nich0s: ;)
[04:58] <Elda> Can someone help me with a bit of an installation/uninstallation question?
[04:58] <louis__> lumaqq is a qq client
[04:58] <T3KnO> let me try for a sec..
[04:58] <Warbo> janbanan: OK, then open it up and go in apps>nautilus>desktop and there is an option like @trash_visible@, turn that on
[04:58] <dalila> !ps/2
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps/2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <nich0s> Elda, If it is eady :p
[04:58] <T3KnO> o i c
[04:58] <Sitouh> profox': It did before I installed Network Manager :(
[04:58] <Elda> Hopefully if someone does answer I will be able to see it this time xD
[04:58] <nich0s> err easy :p
[04:58] <fiveiron> hey anyone play enemy territory?
[04:58] <dalila> !mouse
[04:58] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:58] <Elda> Well its not easy for me but might be easy for you?
[04:58] <Berto> w30: whoa the download cd is "live" ??  haha to me, live means you run it off of the cd
[04:58] <T3KnO> i am not able to reach this http://www.tecent.com.cn
[04:58] <nich0s> elda, What's goin on?
[04:58] <xepher> one other question: can anyone help me installing my sony nw-e505 flash mp3 player under linux.... the dreaded sonicstage is acting up under wine
[04:58] <T3KnO> currently offline?
[04:59] <bruenig> lets say I wanted to launch nautilus or totem with crontab. Do i need to add something in the crontab. As in should I add a PATH, I have never done this before not to clear on that short of thing. what about a SHELL, i notice other crontab had a SHELL entry should that be in my own crontab also
[04:59] <louis__> you can search "lumaqq" by google,and download it
[04:59] <Elda> I downloaded a new version of wireless network manager as it supports vpn support (what I need to get on the internet at school) but I am curious would I have to delete the old version first?  AND
[04:59] <louis__> i can register one qq number for u
[04:59] <Warbo> bruenig: You may need DISPLAY set
[04:59] <Elda> Since I didnt dl it useing ap-get install how would I install it? >.<
[04:59] <sethk> Elda, ordinarily no
[04:59] <w30> Berto, right boot it up on a bare box and install from an install icon on the Desktop, cool eh?
[04:59] <bruenig> DISPLAY, and what might that look like
[04:59] <T3KnO> ok i'll download one now..
[04:59] <janbanan> Warbo: Thanks mate
[04:59] <Elda> Ive unpacked it onto a directory on my desktop already
[05:00] <Warbo> "DISPLAY=localhost:0" maybe
[05:00] <distantbody> Elda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros
[05:00] <Elda> And ./install doesnt seem to work for me >.<
[05:00] <bruenig> ok I will mess around with that
[05:00] <Berto> w30: haha yeah exactly.  live cd to me means like knoppix
[05:00] <Warbo> !compile
[05:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:00] <louis__> then you can log with your account by using lumaqq
[05:00] <sethk> bruenig, you can always run a program with it's full path name and not worry about PATH.  PATH is set to a reasonable value by the default bash configuration files
[05:00] <T3KnO> do I need a specific version to have it work?
[05:00] <wweasel> I just installed Grip and I am getting no sound. Could someone help? (Yes, the volume is on and sound, including CD Audio, works in other apps)
[05:00] <haasteem> !repositories
[05:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:00] <Warbo> Berto: I am in the live CD right now...
[05:00] <nich0s> elda, Did you see the !compile output?
[05:00] <nich0s> !compile
[05:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:00] <bruenig> yeah I know that. but I was trying to get totem to open a file, I tried full path to totem followed by full path to file but that didn't work
[05:00] <PMantis> FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format
[05:01] <PMantis> Is vmware-workstation broken in Dapper with the latest kernel?
[05:01] <bruenig> but that might be because of no DISPLAY
[05:01] <louis__> lumaqq2005 is ok,if you use lumaqq2006,it may not stable
[05:01] <Warbo> PMantis: Make sure you have the right vmware-modules (I think) package for your kernel
[05:01] <Don_jr> what is the kernel?  I"ve seen that used alot.
[05:01] <Berto> w30: one last thing - i already have /home with tons of stuff and obviously do NOT want to lose that.  Is the installer nice and friendly about making sure it doesn't get formatted?
[05:01] <nich0s> Elda, That may help you with the install file. Were you just not able to find anything in the package manager?
[05:01] <Warbo> !kernel
[05:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:01] <w30> Berto, well The Ubuntu cd is live, it is a memory checker, and it has the install media (basic) on it so you can got to preconfigure repositories to get all kinds of neat stuff.
[05:01] <T3KnO> hehe...just downloading lumaqq _2006 M2 Linux..
[05:02] <T3KnO> i'll try to look for lumaqq2005
[05:02] <louis__> that's ok
[05:02] <louis__> lumaqq2006 is just ok
[05:02] <Berto> w30: that's a really great idea to have the installer like that.  as long as i don't lose /home :)
[05:02] <nich0s> There are only 828 people in here.. that is sad. :P
[05:02] <Don_jr> that's enough for me
[05:02] <PMantis> Warbo, There is no "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-26-686" package
[05:02] <w30> Berto, also it can boot your installation if a Windows reinstall wipes out bootloader
[05:02] <distantbody> Don_jr: Your hardware talks to the kernel, and your kernel talks to your software.
[05:02] <nich0s> I think microsoft should build a similar IRC room :P
[05:02] <louis__> T3Kno,where are u?why you can not access chinese website?
[05:03] <T3KnO> about 12.4 mb...or so...
[05:03] <Don_jr> so it's the backbone of unix then?
[05:03] <eternalswd> RamiKassab, I don't know about a linux screengrab program, but there's a firefox extension you might want to look into at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1146/
[05:03] <nich0s> Don_jr, It's the like the registry in windows :p
[05:03] <nich0s> Don_jr,  The engine in a car.
[05:03] <Berto> w30: not a probelm here... i've been linux 100% for 6 years.  i'm just a laggard when it comes to trying new distro
[05:03] <T3KnO> i don't know why i can not reach that page....i am currently in Shenzhen, China
[05:03] <VOYAGER> Berto, i rename a copy of home and save it just in case
[05:03] <piratepenguin> Ubuntu's been in a bad state for me recently... (not related to the X update afaik).. does anyone else get a green border around a non-maximized gnome-terminal? (I'm using xorg-air btw)
[05:03] <Don_jr> and while i"m thinking of it.  Is there a difference between unix and linux or can they truly be used interchangably?
[05:03] <nich0s> Don_jr,  The SOMETHING MASSIVE to it's DEPENDENCY :P
[05:03] <louis__> you try www.qq.com
[05:04] <louis__> i'm in shenzhen too
[05:04] <Warbo> PMantis: There's your problem then (don't ask me how to fix it though :) )
[05:04] <linux__alien> I ve a weird problem with Ubuntu . I use PPPOE to connect to the internet and it gets connected also but when i leave the connection idle for some time i am unable to browse using Firefox but IRC Chat works and gaim works could some one help me
[05:04] <T3KnO> really?
[05:04] <Berto> VOYAGER: what do you mean?  my /home/  is bigger than the rest of my space, so i can't copy it or back it up
[05:04] <louis__> sure
[05:04] <T3KnO> I live near DI WANG Building
[05:04] <PMantis> Warbo, Heh, well my problem must be a distro problem
[05:04] <louis__> i am a chinese
[05:04] <VOYAGER> rofl
[05:04] <Berto> VOYAGER: i'm just asking if there's an option to keep existing partitions?
[05:05] <louis__> i working near SAI GE mansion
[05:05] <Berto> VOYAGER: and NOT format certain ones..
[05:05] <nalioth> !offtopic
[05:05] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:05] <w30> nich0s, in the old days Microsoft had a following like Linux does now with clubs and every thing that Gates didn't like ,like sharing software (on floppydisks).
[05:05] <linux__alien> is this a bug in ubuntu ?
[05:05] <T3KnO> i am also chinese but from the Netherland
[05:05] <T3KnO> s
[05:05] <TheRealCfreak> linux__alien: sounds like a DNS problem ... do you have another OS to test it on?
[05:05] <VOYAGER> was a advanced mode in beta testing but not sure now
[05:05] <louis__> are you a boy or a girl?
[05:05] <T3KnO> boy
[05:05] <nich0s> w30, Did you used to have to walk to school, 30 miles, in the snow, both ways? :P
[05:05] <T3KnO> you?
[05:05] <louis__> boy
[05:05] <T3KnO> i c
[05:06] <Jbirk> any idea for fixing my VNC?
[05:06] <nich0s> w30, sorry. I know :P
[05:06] <Cheza_> meh
[05:06] <louis__> Netherland?
[05:06] <sethk> only 30 miles?
[05:06] <nalioth> louis__: T3KnO : go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:06] <T3KnO> you ever go to club called ben si?
[05:06] <louis__> soory
[05:06] <nich0s> w30, I couldn't help it... Now Microsoft has a following, the majority of them have pitchforks :p
[05:06] <Ignacio> alguien habla espaol ?
[05:06] <louis__> sorry
[05:06] <nalioth> !es
[05:06] <w30> nich0s, I think that era died about the time of Windows95 and the get away from command line DOS
[05:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:06] <xepher> brb
[05:06] <Elda> I missed everything that was just said after my question -_-
[05:07] <distantbody> Elda: use Synaptic Package Manager, apt-get is for pros
[05:07] <Elda> But what Id last said is that Synaptics Packaged Manager has .6.2 rather than .6.4
[05:07] <bruenig> apt-get is so much easier
[05:07] <w30> nich0s, no. but it was uphill both ways :=)
[05:07] <T3KnO> louis__ ---> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <Elda> Package Manager
[05:07] <Warbo> Applications>Add/Remove is for n00bs, Synaptic is for pros
[05:07] <profoX`> Warbo: well -- universe and multiverse are alot bigger iirc
[05:07] <louis__> nalioth , i help him to slove the qq porblem ,hehe ,do not drive out us
[05:07] <bruenig> add/remove is frustrating all I have had it to is tell me it can't do what I want it to do unless I do it in synaptic
[05:07] <nickv111> I always use apt-get; I'll never get used to all this GUI stuff
[05:08] <nich0s> w30, damn, can't believe I messed that opportunity up. :P
[05:08] <nalioth> louis__: T3KnO: this is a support channel, you can find out each others night club preferences in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <nickv111> The problem with (K)ubuntu is this: it's too easy, and too intuitive. I'm used to always making the problem harder than it is
[05:08] <nich0s> I'm 18, I was raised on a Gui :P
[05:08] <eternalswd> louis_, just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[05:08] <profoX`> nickv111: me too - although synaptic has a nice category search thingy
[05:08] <louis__> mistake
[05:08] <Warbo> profoX`: I just haven't run Synaptic without enabling Universe before. I only did it just now because I forgot to set a DNS server so apt couldn't load the Universe package list
[05:08] <Don_jr> the more I read this stuff, the more I learn I don't know anything about linux.....
[05:08] <shray> hi
[05:09] <nich0s> HOWDY!
[05:09] <T3KnO> o i am sorry if i mentioned that...i won't do that again...
[05:09] <nalioth> louis__: T3KnO is waiting to continue your nightlife chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:09] <shray> can you run xgl on edgy eft?
[05:09] <ddna> I am getting cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x33564D57 when I play mms:// video stream, I have latest  w32codec already installed help ubuntu amd 64
[05:09] <dr_willis> Don_jr,  the more you learn, the more you learn.. that you have more to learn
[05:09] <cvp> If someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.
[05:09] <Don_jr> lol that is true
[05:09] <profoX`> louis__: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[05:09] <louis__> ok,
[05:09] <w30> nich0s, but I haven't used Windows since it wiped my lilo boot loader and made re reinstall Linux. I re-installed Linux whole disk and never looked back since RedHat 4.6
[05:09] <toleshei> Is there really any advantage to updating the kernel from 386 to k7 (in my case)
[05:10] <nich0s> w30, I think redhat 4.6 is before my time :P
[05:10] <Elda> Bleh!
[05:10] <Don_jr> I've never used a *nix based system in my life.  I'm installing ubuntu for the first time today!
[05:10] <Elda> Synaptics only has version .6.4.2
[05:10] <Elda> err .6.2
[05:10] <Elda> I need .6.4
[05:10] <distantbody> Elda: did you refresh it?
[05:10] <eternalswd> ddna, try it in vlc
[05:10] <Elda> Yes
[05:11] <w30> nich0s, at least it ain't linux1.1 or whatever Linus called it.
[05:11] <nich0s> w30, I am working on weaning myself away from the microsoft, but I know it sooo well.. I can dance circles around everything in windows :P
[05:11] <profoX`> toleshei: it will run slightly faster..
[05:11] <Elda> I have it sitting in a directory, I just am not sure how to manually install it
[05:11] <Sitouh> Anyone with experience getting WPA to work with wireless cards?
[05:11] <testtt> is it possible to hook up my Linksys WMP54GS and get it to work? i mean is there drivers for it?
[05:11] <Elda> It has an install file and the like in there
[05:11] <Elda> Ive tried ./install
[05:11] <rpedro> Elda: what program ?
[05:11] <bruenig> my crontab entry right now is * * * * * /usr/bin/nautilus, my thought is that it will launch nautilus every minute. But it doesn't do so. any thoughts
[05:11] <Don_jr> it's a fat32 system I'm installing into, I know it will reformat it to what it needs, but would the install go faster if it was ext3 already?
[05:11] <omoore> I've been a centos user for some time now as my primary os. I'm looking for a bit more modern distro tho and like ubuntu..
[05:11] <toleshei> thanks
[05:11] <profoX`> toleshei: and support multiple processors and more RAM (+4GB or something like that?)
[05:11] <omoore> i use vmware alot tho.. for client work, etc...
[05:11] <Warbo> Where does network-manager-gnome go? (as in Applications, System>Admin, etc.) I've heard it is quite good at doing wireless, so maybe it'll help me, but I can't find out how to open it
[05:11] <distantbody> Elda: "sudo ./..."
[05:11] <Elda> This http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[05:11] <Elda> Ive tried sudo
[05:12] <nich0s> Don_jr, It will want to auto partition the drive anyways... it will not really make a difference esp if this is your first install.
[05:12] <Don_jr> ok
[05:12] <janbanan> I've made a new panel at the bottom of the desktop. Is it possible to make it appear in the background so for example firefox is displayed over it?
[05:12] <omoore> how is ubuntu with vmware where ubuntu is the host? has anyone here doing this for a long time?
[05:12] <toleshei> well since i'm just running an athlon 2000+ with a gig of ram, is it worth it?
[05:12] <Don_jr> totally reformatted and empty HD I'm installing into
[05:12] <Elda> Want to get .6.4 working because it has vpn support which is what I need to use at school to get online
[05:12] <omoore> (not as guest, as the host for vmware workstation)
[05:12] <distantbody> Elda: is the terminal in the correct directory
[05:12] <eternalswd> testtt, possibly.  the best place to check would be www.ubuntuforums.org just search for your wireless device and you might run into a howto
[05:12] <Elda> Yes I do cd... type in the name of it and hit tab so it auto complete
[05:12] <Elda> s
[05:13] <distantbody> Elda: an what does it say?
[05:13] <Elda> Ive tried ./INSTALL ./install makefile or whatever its called
[05:13] <Elda> Nadda
[05:13] <qatsi> good night all !, im haivng troubble with my xorg.conf and i need to rebuild it. I know there is a command to do so, but i dont remember it, can anyone please tell me what command is that ?
[05:13] <Elda> let me try again
[05:13] <TheRealCfreak> Elda it sounds like you're trying to compile software
[05:13] <Elda> ewww
[05:13] <TheRealCfreak> you need the development tools in order to do that
[05:13] <nich0s> w30, How did you get away from gates-ville and get yourself to adapt to linux. what did you read, where did you go?
[05:13] <nich0s> !compile :P
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Elda> Even if it has an install file already therE?
[05:13] <profoX`> Elda: do you have a "no screens found" error?
[05:13] <Elda> nope
[05:14] <eternalswd> Elda, what are you trying to compile?
[05:14] <qatsi> no one knows the command to re-build xorg.conf ?
[05:14] <cvp> If someone here can help me with a booting problem, /msg me please.
[05:14] <tnzr> Elda: is the install file called "INSTALL" ?  if so its a text file with instructions.
[05:14] <profoX`> Elda: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <profoX`> Elda: that will rebuild the xorg.conf file
[05:14] <rpedro> Elda: try typing gedit INSTALL
[05:14] <sethk> cvp, better to ask here, let everyone help
[05:14] <distantbody> qatsi: i; get it in two secs...
[05:14] <nich0s> profoX`, that is for qatsi I thinks
[05:14] <qatsi> thanks :D
[05:14] <cvp> sethk: my problem involves a lot of gibberish that my computer spit at me... it would take up a good portion of the page
[05:14] <Warbo> qatsi: apt-get source xserver-xorg maybe?
[05:15] <nich0s> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:15] <profoX`> nich0s: oops
[05:15] <Elda> Ewww looking at the install file its a compile thing
[05:15] <nich0s> profoX`, hehe :P
[05:15] <eternalswd> cvp, post it in the pastebin
[05:15] <cvp> sethk: and the last thing I want to do is annoy everybody here
[05:15] <profoX`> qatsi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:15] <nich0s> cvp, I am annoying everyone here :P
[05:15] <Elda> I think Ill just leave that alone for now
[05:15] <TheRealCfreak> Elda: most source tar files come with an installation file that compiles it for you. But you have to have the compilier and make and all the dev tools ... What are you trying to install?
[05:15] <Warbo> !compile > Elda
[05:15] <distantbody> qatsi: here is the command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:15] <Elda> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/  Trying to install this
[05:15] <jman8888> Ummm....What do i do if i forget my USERNAME! (I set my sister up a pc and gave her her own username but forgot it...)
[05:16] <nich0s> Ooer, while we are on the subject, where can I get the dev tools for compiling?
[05:16] <Elda> I wish to use .6.4
[05:16] <tnzr> Elda: isnt there a .deb for that?
[05:16] <Berto> so i never got a confident answer to this:  i have mandriva 2006 and want to format /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda6 with / and /usr -- however, i do NOT want the installer to format /dev/hda7 which is my /home.  Is this going to be OK?
[05:16] <Warbo> jman8888: I would boot into recovery mode, add a new user and add them to admin group
[05:16] <IcemanV9> network manager has a long way to go; it works, but not perfect :/
[05:16] <Elda> errr let me see if its int he directory
[05:16] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[05:16] <Sitouh> My wireless card works when I'm not trying to use WPA (or Network Manager), but Network Manager isn't giving me WPA as an option
[05:16] <Berto> (oh and i didn't mention above that i'd be installing ubuntu, of course)
[05:16] <Elda> It works fine for me but I need VPN support so I can get on at school
[05:16] <jman8888> Warbo, How...
[05:17] <foo>  Any idea why /usr/bin/beep doesn't beep my system?
[05:17] <tnzr> Berto you can do it.. not sure how in ubuntu but I bet involves selecting "Manually partition hard drives.." or whatever instead of the auto mode
[05:17] <dr_willis> foo perhaps ya got no speaker? :P
[05:17] <Warbo> jman8888: adduser will add a user, but I forget how to add someone to a group
[05:17] <Berto> tnzr: yeah i saw some screenshots on that from one guide about windows
[05:17] <cvp> I can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.
[05:17] <VOYAGER> foo turn on the system sounds
[05:17] <tnzr> Berto: you may even be able to make it ignore that partition in Auto mode, then later you can just mount that partition on /home and you are all set
[05:18] <TheRealCfreak> Elda: I think you want, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:18] <Berto> tnzr: a wise idea.  just say no touch
[05:18] <tnzr> Berto: its easy on the command line, but I couldnt tell you how with automated gui junk like installers
[05:18] <Warbo> tnzr: Even easier, just set it to mount as /home and tell it not to format
[05:18] <Elda> Okey so how would I know what I need to !compile ?
[05:18] <Elda> Kk
[05:18] <foo> dr_willis: I do. This worked fine on debian.
[05:18] <foo> VOYAGER: How?
[05:18] <TheRealCfreak> You shouldn't have to compile
[05:18] <tnzr> Berto: what Warbo said (though I am absolved of all responsibility from here on in :)
[05:18] <TheRealCfreak> if you really want to compile ... um hard to explain, you need a bunch of packages even to get started
[05:19] <IcemanV9> Elda: you don't need to know to compile; apt-get will take care of it. :)
[05:19] <Berto> Warbo: awesome, thanks.  that's what I was wondering -- if there's a NO FORMAT option.  i'd flip out if it formatted my stuff
[05:19] <nich0s> I think he is saying that you don't want to even start with it :p
[05:19] <Elda> Errr apt-get only gives me version .6.2
[05:19] <nich0s> or she
[05:19] <nich0s> sorry
[05:19] <eternalswd> Elda, I think you need to do sudo make install
[05:19] <Elda> Reading package lists... Done
[05:19] <Elda> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:19] <Elda> network-manager-gnome is already the newest version.
[05:19] <Elda> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:19] <sethk> Berto, it's better to take the mode where you get a veto
[05:19] <Elda> kk
[05:19] <jman8888> Warbo, I just found on Ubuntu forums to do revovery mode them cd /home then type ls... Seems so obvious.
[05:19] <TheRealCfreak> ahhh
[05:20] <Berto> sethk: hhaah what?   manual mode you mean?
[05:20] <Warbo> Berto: There is a page on the installer just after the manual partition editor (I assume you are going to do it manually) which lets you set each partition's mount point and whether it should be formatted. (I have only done it with manual, it may be available on automatic I don't know)
[05:20] <jman8888> Also why dont i see 2000(On a seperate hd on the grub menu)
[05:20] <w30> nich0s, I saw an interview on a tv show called techtv or somethin like that. It was the two guys that founded RedHat. I said tomyself 'Self, that is for me."
[05:20] <Elda> eternalswd, that doesnt work -_-
[05:20] <TheRealCfreak> Elda: just doing make install won't work.
[05:20] <Warbo> jman8888: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think of that :)
[05:20] <dasGewitte1> Where can I get the package growisofs?
[05:20] <cruddpuppet> can some one help me install divx
[05:21] <Sitouh> Anybody know why Network Manager won't give me WPA security?
[05:21] <distantbody> jman8888: there *should* be a dropdown box at the top right
[05:21] <Elda> How do I determine which file I have to "make" ?
[05:21] <TheRealCfreak> Elda: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[05:21] <cvp> I can no longer boot into Ubuntu! It always locks up during the "mounting root filesystem" portion, and in the recovery mode, the last thing I see is [http://pastebin.com/774558] , after which nothing happens and my computer becomes a space heater.
[05:21] <Elda> let me go and look
[05:21] <eternalswd> Elda, see if you have make -> sudo apt-get install make
[05:21] <Berto> Warbo: perfect, i'm confident now.  i can figure out the rest.
[05:21] <Berto> tyahks!!
[05:21] <cruddpuppet> hello
[05:21] <qatsi> sorry to bother you again, but months ago i used a command just like the one you gave me: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but the other one configured X by itself, this one is asking me things, and i just want to auto detect the settings...do you know what im i talking about :P?
[05:21] <Warbo> Elda: "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall -D"
[05:21] <IcemanV9> ya, i just noticed that network-manager version is 6.2 on Ubuntu, but there is 6.4 out there. :/
[05:21] <nich0s> w30, What about it made you want to switch to it?  I mean, from what I can tell so far is that I am just awkward in this environment.
[05:21] <cruddpuppet> CAn some one here help me install divx?
[05:21] <rpedro> !wpa >> Sitouh
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <w30> nich0s, I don't imagine they have that kid of time nowadays.
[05:22] <distantbody> qatsi: i'll private message
[05:22] <Elda> I have make now >.>
[05:22] <jordanau> rpedro, search for wpa in the ubuntu wiki
[05:22] <qatsi> distantbody: ok
[05:22] <eternalswd> cvp, sounds like your hard drive is going bad, do you have another computer that you can load it in as a slave?
[05:22] <Sitouh> I went through all the steps the wiki said, and it's still not working
[05:22] <jman8888> distantbody, ? I installed using a random username(Im used to my Login screen i got from gnome-look that shows all my users avalible.
[05:22] <fiendskull9> hello
[05:22] <Elda> Okey updating packages
[05:22] <rpedro> Sitouh: for you ^^
[05:22] <Elda> My head is going to explode!
[05:22] <heyu> hey.. can anyone give a hand? my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"
[05:23] <fiendskull9> im having trouble removing the xfonts-artwiz package
[05:23] <cvp> eternalswd: no can do, I have one laptop and one desktop, and I can't stick my notebook hard drive into my desktop...
[05:23] <Don_jr> man burning at 2X is slow....I really hope it installs faster for waiting this long...lol
[05:23] <Warbo> Can I please get some help with Wifi? I have asked a lot and got no response. My help ratio is extraordinarily one-sided in this community....
[05:23] <Elda> Is there anything more basic I should learn how to do before I mess with all this?
[05:23] <Sitouh> rpedro: I went through everything I could find there in the help.
[05:23] <cruddpuppet> Can some one help me out here? I have an .avi file and I don't know how to install divx
[05:23] <dasGewitte1> Warbo: what's the problem?
[05:23] <fiendskull9> Don_jr: you have a 2x dvd drive?
[05:23] <jordanau> warbo whats up
[05:24] <dasGewitte1> cruddpuppet: use mplayer to play the .avi file
[05:24] <cruddpuppet> mplayer?
[05:24] <haiyai> hi
[05:24] <w30> nich0s, the best thing to do is buy some books, but around my neck of the woods no one uses Linux so I have to get my books by ordering on line. Buy something that fits your distro or changeyour distro to match the book. Switch distros later
[05:24] <IcemanV9> Don_jr: it'll install much faster than 2X :)
[05:24] <Don_jr> I don't have a dvd drive at all on the PC I"m burning with, it's a simple cdrw
[05:24] <nich0s> elda, psst... I am a gui-junkie don't give in, but learn it just in case :P
[05:24] <dasGewitte1> cruddpuppet: yes, it's an alternate media player, it has the proper codecs for an .avi file
[05:24] <fiendskull9> Don_jr: and its 2x?
[05:24] <Don_jr> I'm burning the ISO at 2x cause I was told that my last burn at 12x may make the install slower..
[05:24] <Warbo> My router doesn't give me an IP via DHCP wirelessly (it does wired), and even if I set a static IP in the right range it refuses to talk
[05:24] <cruddpuppet> thank you
[05:24] <haiyai> anyone no about azureus
[05:24] <bruenig> haiyai, what is your question
[05:24] <fiendskull9> Don_jr: ahhh
[05:24] <Elda> I want to learn the command line as it seems you need both in here >.>
[05:24] <tehsu> How can I monitor cpu temp?
[05:24] <rpedro> Sitouh: one sec, strange that ubotu didn't have the link..
[05:24] <dasGewitte1> cruddpuppet: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:24] <Don_jr> I clicked install and all it did was spin my CD for an hour and a half and nothing ever came up
[05:24] <haiyai> nat problem
[05:25] <Don_jr> so I'm burning at a slower rate now so maybe it'll install faster
[05:25] <nich0s> w30, What is your favorite distro? How would I know what distro is right for me?
[05:25] <Elda> Plus I like using the dos command line in conjuction with winblows so I think this will make things easier
[05:25] <Elda> well now its just cmd but still
[05:25] <bruenig> elda, command line is a nice tool to use helps in a lot of situations
[05:25] <Elda> I am guessing as much
[05:25] <Don_jr> IT's going to take me forever to get dos out of my head and lrean the proper commands in a linux console
[05:25] <rpedro> Sitouh: read the howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[05:25] <haiyai> nat problem no speed up and down
[05:25] <tehsu> anyone
[05:25] <bruenig> I never used DOS so I never had that problem
[05:25] <nich0s> Don_jr, Man pages are your friends :P
[05:25] <eternalswd> cvp that's exactly why I don't have a laptop, though you probably need it for travelling purposes.  you might want to see if you can boot Live and mount the hard drives in there
[05:26] <Don_jr> man pages?
[05:26] <haiyai> windows box works fine not router
[05:26] <Elda> Well dos is a little bit from this from what Ive seen
[05:26] <tehsu> Whats a desktop cpu monitor program for linux
[05:26] <qatsi> distantbody: are you there ?
[05:26] <Elda> At least cd, and dir are the same xD
[05:26] <tehsu> gdesktels?
[05:26] <bruenig> ls instead of dir
[05:26] <Elda> dir works too
[05:26] <bruenig> or does dir work too
[05:26] <Don_jr> msdos, dos, what ever....it's all dos and most people understand that! lol
[05:26] <distantbody> qatsi: message send
[05:26] <nich0s> Don_jr, In nix, if you don't know what a command does, but you know the command you can type "man etc" and it will tell you everything that you would ever possibly want to know about that command and more.
[05:26] <Elda> cp is copy in here right?
[05:27] <bruenig> but ls has colors. only because it is aliased to do so in .bashrc I think so
[05:27] <bruenig> though*
[05:27] <nich0s> kinda like help, but WAAAY cooler :p
[05:27] <cvp> eternalswd: What would success/failure indicate? Would backing up my data and reformatting/installing help, or does this mean that my hard-drive is permanently dead.
[05:27] <Warbo> Don_jr: I grew up with AmigaDOS, so damn you all :)
[05:27] <distantbody> qatsi: message *sent*
[05:27] <Elda> okey so its man and the command?
[05:27] <Elda> I kept trying to do man --command here
[05:27] <nich0s> si
[05:27] <nich0s> :P
[05:27] <Don_jr> hehehe I first started learning to program on basicA
[05:27] <qatsi> distantbody: i dont see anything :
[05:27] <IcemanV9> tehsu: OR system > admin > system monitor
[05:27] <nich0s> man rmdir
[05:27] <lophyte> Elda: the best way for help is either man <command>, or the --help parameter to the command
[05:27] <dr_willis> man man
[05:27] <dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <gidim> Okay, I need some professional help.
[05:27] <Elda> Sad, I try to learn linux on my own and I still have to ask a man for help >.>
[05:27] <eternalswd> cvp, well if you can mount the drive in Live, you might be able to network your files somewhere and reformat
[05:27] <nich0s> man women
[05:28] <Don_jr> haha Elda
[05:28] <Elda> bad pun, but yeah >.>
[05:28] <lophyte> Elda: LOL ;)
[05:28] <nich0s> That is a long standing joke :p
[05:28] <omoore> heh.. the funny thing about man.. is it man handles info.. the program nearly everything in man says replaces man.. but how many people actually use info i wonder
[05:28] <distantbody> qatsi: this command will give you the default settings for xorg.comf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[05:28] <Don_jr> I'm sorry, that has to suck at times
[05:28] <jman8888> What am i missing out on in 5.04 (compared to newer) because its working on my old pc(Previously running 2000 came with 98) and i like the fact that in the cd case it says i need at least 32mb ram to run (i have more than enough for that. Although my linux drive is only 4gigs...
[05:28] <Don_jr> but, remember it stands for Manual, as in do it yourself...
[05:28] <Elda> so is it info or man?
[05:28] <lophyte> man
[05:28] <gidim> lol
[05:28] <dr_willis> info info
[05:28] <dr_willis> :P
[05:29] <qatsi> distantbody: ok, ill try that :) thanks :)
[05:29] <dr_willis> info is a different set of docs..
[05:29] <lophyte> man info? :P
[05:29] <omoore> man.. that's what most everyone onthe planet who uses unix uses instead of info
[05:29] <Warbo> Elda: Info is only really used by GNU utilities. Everything else uses man
[05:29] <nich0s> man = manual = rtfm = READ THE F*&@ING MANUAL :P
[05:29] <Elda> Just did that xD
[05:29] <omoore> lol
[05:29] <w30> nich0s, I went from Slackware, which was simpler and more in line with command line Linux in the books that I had but it was not really modern. I then switched to RedHat through RedHat 9 and then went to Fedora. Fedora is not to stable because the switch versions too early in my opinion and they make a lot of broken updates. So I switched to Ubuntu about a week before they broke xorg. Ha
[05:29] <fiendskull9> im having problems uninstalling the xfonts-artwiz package. it errors out saying the --remove flag isnt reconized
[05:29] <omoore> info was supose to be a replacement for man i guess. but doesn't seem to ever have caught on
[05:29] <Elda> Bah I am tired of the RTFM people.... I DID rtfm and freaking bought a book to try learning it once a long time ago.  IT DIDNT HELP >.>
[05:29] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[05:29] <lmosher> How does one mount and/or burn a .bin .cue file?
[05:29] <lophyte> fiendskull9: what are you typing to remove it?
[05:29] <Warbo> !info bchunk
[05:29] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:30] <Elda> Then I tried asking on an irc network for help after RTFM and then they told me to RTFM -_-
[05:30] <nich0s> w30, lol, I am looking for a decent distro that I would be able to put on to a laptop.
[05:30] <fiendskull9> lophyte: sudo apt-get remove xfonts-artwiz
[05:30] <fiendskull9> of course
[05:30] <omoore> lmosher, to run a .bin, just set it as executable then run it...
[05:30] <distantbody> Can someone please PRivately help kitsuneofdoom?...
[05:30] <Elda> Then I stopped even bothering with linux for about 3 years until I found Ubuntu xD
[05:30] <lmosher> omoore, :) .bin .cue
[05:30] <eternalswd> tehsu, you should be able to add to a panel System Monitor
[05:30] <Warbo> lmosher: Use bchunk to convert it to iso
[05:30] <lophyte> fiendskull9: huh, that's strange
[05:30] <cvp> eternalswd: I'm not concerned about backing up my data... I have a dual-boot machine, and I can pull stuff (slowly but surely) from my ext3 partition. I'm more concerned about not having to reformat...
[05:30] <omoore> lmosher, chmod +x *.bin ... then .. ./whatever.bin
[05:30] <dr_willis> Elda,  its amazing the # of linux help/guides/tutoral sites :)
[05:30] <qatsi> thank you distantbody, now it works :D
[05:30] <lmosher> omoore, lol dude. it's a CD-ROM format
[05:30] <omoore> lmosher, i have no .cue  tho
[05:30] <Warbo> omoore: .bin .cue is a CD image (like .iso)
[05:30] <lophyte> fiendskull9: can you paste the output to a pastebin?
[05:30] <qatsi> good night, and good luck :) (to everyone)
[05:30] <Elda> Then I tried breezy badger, couldnt get wireless to work, gave up and tried it again and I got wireless to work and here I am xD
[05:30] <tuv> how can i see the boot messages on boot? i.e. escape the boot splash
[05:31] <fiendskull9> !pastebin
[05:31] <lmosher> Warbo, tks :)
[05:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:31] <distantbody> qatsi: Good to hear
[05:31] <Elda> I tried those sites but was still evilly confused
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> distantbody: sorry, was I posting too much?
[05:31] <omoore> omoore, lmosher , fine! :) i just see alot of software that is .bin that is *not* an image
[05:31] <Elda> At that time Id been trying to set up the drivers for a ti-4600 so I could use open gl
[05:31] <Warbo> tuv: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8 (that is where they are after bootup at least)
[05:31] <eternalswd> cvp, I don't have the technical expertise to help you beyond what I've suggested
[05:31] <distantbody> kitsuneofdoom: NO, I would just like someone to help you:)
[05:31] <Elda> No help for that and google didnt even help
[05:31] <fiendskull9> lophyte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21525
[05:31] <cvp> eternalswd: Thanks!
[05:31] <kitsuneofdoom> distantbody: thanks
[05:32] <relachs> Hey, i am setting up my HDD for ubuntu, will this work? http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8800/partitionsny7.gif
[05:32] <Elda> heck I even narrowed it down to the cause of needing new drivers by myself >.<
[05:32] <Warbo> omoore: That is why I hate the culture of filename extensions. @.bin@ describes EVERYTHING on a computer, because it's all binary!
[05:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Google is really bad at helping with technical issues. There's too much junk info on the web.
[05:32] <w30> Ubuntu seems to be a good compromise between ease of use and available applications on repositories that take care of your dependicy requirements.
[05:32] <rdz> hi all. does somebody has installed oss2jack on dapper? i'd like to know how.....
[05:32] <janbanan> If I wan't to install a theme on dapper... should it be GTK 2 or what? it says wrong file-format when I try to install
[05:33] <omoore> tuv. you can see what the boot messages were using the dmesg command
[05:33] <Don_jr> what are repositories?
[05:33] <bruenig> relachs, looks good. I like a seperate home and / partition but that works
[05:33] <bruenig> !repos
[05:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:33] <eternalswd> cvp, you might want to check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32328 once the forums stop timing out
[05:33] <gidim> Um, well, I had 64-bit working just fine, then I went and reformatted to install 32-bit so I could run Opera native instead of under WINE, but the install didn't take... it just kind of hung there, so I reboot, drive not recognized, reboot and it is so I wipe the drive clean and try another install... the disc has no errors, it's fine, but for some reason it just doesn't install the OS, so now I have an hda1 that won't take an OS, and I'm
[05:33] <w30> nich0s, dependencies
[05:33] <gidim> I really need to learn to leave well enough alone.
[05:33] <relachs> bruenig ah its you, can i still access D: when i boot windows?
[05:33] <jman8888> Is there a hosts.ect for Ubuntu. There is some websites i need to block.
[05:33] <Warbo> janbanan: GTK2 is GNOME's toolkit, so if you use GNOME (Ubuntu) then just drag the .tar.gz file into system>preferences>themes, or extract it in $HOME/.themes
[05:33] <cvp> eternalswd: Will do. Thanks much.
[05:33] <heyu> my ubuntu install was fine.. just put it on yesterday, i booted into it today to check something, and now when i start it says "Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount./.. Done. Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device"
[05:33] <bruenig> relachs, I don't see why not
[05:33] <cvp> On the issue of GNOME vs KDE, which do you guys suggest? I have a friend who is a KDE developer, and he keeps telling me to switch to KDE, but he IS a biased source...
[05:34] <tuv> omoore, i'm having boot problems and would like to see what is causing the problem while booting. i think i got it. booting off sata is broken in recent kernels. i have to use 2.6.15-23
[05:34] <ElementalDragon> hi
[05:34] <dr_willis> cvp,  i mixx and match the 2. it dont matter to me at all.
[05:34] <Acidfk> Hi
[05:34] <bruenig> well linus likes KDE so I have to defer to him
[05:34] <Warbo> cvp: He is biased toward KDE, and I am biased toward GNOME. It is a preference
[05:34] <IcemanV9> relachs: looks fine, but did you know that install CD can resize winxp partition w/o problem and then create a free space for Ubuntu automaticially. it worked nicely on my box.
[05:34] <prophet> can someone help me with VALKNUT
[05:34] <dr_willis> cvp,  go old-skool and code in pure xlib goodness! :P
[05:34] <darksoul_> how would i get 32bit programs running on a 64bit os? and is opera 64bit out?
[05:34] <gidim> I like GNOME, it's nice, I haven't tried KDE yet but the screens just scream Windows to me.
[05:34] <relachs> bruenig because ubuntu, swap and d are surrounded by a light blue frame ^_^
[05:35] <Warbo> I personally use E16 inside GNOME
[05:35] <relachs> wondering if that seperates it from c:\
[05:35] <omoore> i would like to use ubuntu as my host os.. for work reasons, i must have an environment which will run vmware workstation reliably.. anyone here been running vmware workstation on ubuntu for a long time?
[05:35] <eternalswd> cvp, I like gnome since most of my program preferences are gtk based.  I'm sure if they were qt, I would prefer kde
[05:35] <dr_willis> gidim,  kde makes windows look like trash. :P
[05:35] <Mixx`> dr_willis =)
[05:35] <lophyte> fiendskull9: looks like the package is broken.. one sec
[05:35] <fiendskull9> lophyte: alright
[05:35] <janbanan> Warbo: well thats exactly what I'm doing. but I get that message all the time
[05:35] <nich0s> How would one go about seeing what KDE would look like?
[05:35] <bruenig> relachs, windows should be able to read extended partitions. To be sure check in ##windows
[05:35] <omoore> (i tried fedora once, but fell back to centos because of updates occasionally breaking vmware beyond what vmware-conf.pl would fix)
[05:35] <distantbody> omoore: long time:no, reliably: yes
[05:35] <fiendskull9> nich0s: google
[05:35] <gidim> IcemanV9: Can it really? My D or hdb1 is a 300GB storage drive that I'm afraid to resize for fear of losing data.
[05:35] <darksoul_> any 64bit users here?
[05:35] <fiendskull9> nich0s: lynucs.org has alot of screenshots
[05:35] <ElementalDragon> I'm having a problem booting to the Live CD for Ubuntu 6.06.1 x86 AND x64...... is there a way to install it without booting Live?
[05:36] <gidim> darksoul_: Sort of.
[05:36] <bruenig> darksoul__, chroot or nothing
[05:36] <dr_willis> nich0s,  just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and run it instead of gnome when you login. :P
[05:36] <Don_jr> So certain programs will only run in one or the other, KDE or GNOME?
[05:36] <BSG75> can someone pls tell me how to turn off my eth0 device?
[05:36] <gidim> AMD64, but I have no OS at the moment. ^^;;
[05:36] <tehsu> eternalswd, nope no where in there
[05:36] <Warbo> nich0s: kde-look.org ? (maybe without the hyphen, I forget)
[05:36] <dr_willis> Don_jr, you can mix and match.
[05:36] <omoore> distantbody, have you *ever* had an update break it (as in vmware-config.pl not able to reconfigure for a new kernel)?
[05:36] <IcemanV9> gidim: never try on that large size. the biggest is 100Gb. it works fine.
[05:36] <jman8888> I love Ubuntu. It has great internet support. I have it connected to a Usb connected to my modem. And its acctually up on the pc i have for my sister.
[05:36] <darksoul_> Can anyone tell me how to get 32bit apps working on 64bit?
[05:36] <dr_willis> Don_jr,  may have a few little oddities here and there.. but not many these days
[05:36] <bruenig> darksoul_ chroot
[05:36] <Don_jr> thanx
[05:36] <nich0s> Thanks all fot the answers :P
[05:36] <Warbo> jman8888: What kind of modem? (I am interested in this sort of thing)
[05:36] <bruenig> I am sure there are some tutorials in the forums on how to use chroot
[05:36] <_priest> jman8888: not sure why you think its ubuntu itself that has this support
[05:36] <_priest> but ok
[05:37] <giga> is there such thing as an ethernet splitter or kvm switch?
[05:37] <Don_jr> I need to know if I have to watch for that.  eings i"m new I don't want to install a program I can't use cause I"m on the wrong desktop...lol
[05:37] <darksoul_> chroot?
[05:37] <nich0s> and thank you fiendskull9 for reminding why I hate working in association with Earthlinkk :P
[05:37] <gidim> darksoul_: I tried. A lot. I read the how-to's, I just couldn't get them working. I worked for awhile on Opera.
[05:37] <prophet> i cant connet to a room in valknut cans omeone hlep
[05:37] <fiendskull9> nich0s: what? do you mean not wanting to download kubuntu-desktop and not like it?
[05:37] <gidim> So, now I have a 32-bit and a 64-bit CD to choose from when I want to load a Live CD.
[05:37] <lophyte> fiendskull9: I'm not exactly sure how to fix that.. have you tried browsing the forums?
[05:37] <cvp> prophet: in general, stay away from Vulcans. They're bad news.
[05:37] <jman8888> Surfboard Modem(Motorola) And it works great whitch is amazing because it was hard to get working in 2000, It took me forever.
[05:37] <eternalswd> relachs, your ubuntu partition is a bit small, but I guess it depends on how many programs and how much updating/compiling you plan to do
[05:37] <Pulshion> How to set contrast and brightness in ubuntu?
[05:37] <bruenig> relachs, if need be. you should be able to move D: out of the extended partition. As you can have another primary partition
[05:37] <gidim> My hda won't take install for some reason.
[05:37] <darksoul_> gidim, right now im looking to see if they have a 64bit opera out.. it not im going to get it working somehow.
[05:37] <jman8888> And i had to download so many drivers...
[05:37] <matthew_w> Hey uh... I'm trying to VNC to a Windows box, ... possible?
[05:37] <distantbody>  omoore: no. Do you have the correct linux headers, gcc & g++?
[05:37] <prophet> what else should i use
[05:37] <Warbo> jman8888: OK, I've never heard of that :)
[05:37] <fiendskull9> lophyte: im looking right now, have you noticed an extreme slowness in the ubuntu forums lately?
[05:38] <cvp> matthew_w: Yes.
[05:38] <gidim> darksoul_: No, that was my want too.
[05:38] <nich0s> fiendskull9, I'm just messin with ya, google is totally something that they would say. :P
[05:38] <lophyte> fiendskull9: yeah, its been rather slow lately
[05:38] <dasGewitte1> what's the command to compile a file again?
[05:38] <bruenig> Pulshion, isn't that a monitor thing
[05:38] <nich0s> fiendskull9, You made me smile :)
[05:38] <fiendskull9> nich0s: lol
[05:38] <janbanan> Warbo: I can install icons whit drag-drop but not themes
[05:38] <jordanau> Warbo, so you can see the router but not connect to it?
[05:38] <Don_jr> okay, finally done burning at 2X, let's see if it loads any faster.....
[05:38] <giga> ubuntuforums posted an announcement on their homepage about the lowness
[05:38] <w30> cvp, Gnome seems to be advancing faster but they are behind KDE in features so they better be faster. Besides Gnome was started because KDE was kind of alof and did things their way. I think Gnome has their ear to the community of Linux users more. At least for the moment.
[05:38] <bruenig> Pulshion, try clicking the buttons on your monitor and messing around with those menus
[05:38] <gidim> darksoul_: They have no intention of releasing a 64-bit Opera when the 32-bit one works fine... but it doesn't work fine, not for me, for everybody else it works fine.
[05:38] <haiyai> Azureus??
[05:38] <matthew_w> cvp:  well... what the heck should I do?  When I use vncviewer, it just gives me a freeze, because if I don't put the "screen number" it does nothing... afaik, there is no screen number @ windows... confusion?
[05:38] <ElementalDragon> can someone help with my install problem....... preferably in a PM?
[05:38] <Pulshion> bruenig -- yea but its all the way up and my monitor is fudged
[05:38] <fiendskull9> lophyte: well i hope i can get rid of this package, its disabling me from doing anything, even getting cpan modules!
[05:38] <omoore> distantbody, it's not broke .. i'm currently running centos which has been rock solid for it... but i want to move to ubuntu for my host...
[05:38] <bruenig> oh
[05:38] <pushpop> is there a way to force an install?
[05:38] <Warbo> janbanan: Try extracting the archive and putting it in $HOME/.themes (that folder is hidden)
[05:39] <haiyai> bruenig do you ponder my problem?
[05:39] <jman8888> Warbo, Its a wireless modem but i only have one D-Link. I already was using the ethernet on the back so i went for a risk and Tried ubuntu with the usb connection. And it worked.
[05:39] <nich0s> Let's say my computer... is kinda slow... I'm talking p2 technology... which desktop environment is going to be more suited to my lack of hardware?
[05:39] <omoore> distantbody, it tried fedora once but an update (even withthe proper header (suposedly) for the runnign kernel broke it
[05:39] <gidim> darksoul_: Hence I tried to install the 32-bit Ubuntu so I wouldn't have the Opera problem... I just failed miserably at it.
[05:39] <cvp> matthew_w: *shrug*
[05:39] <jman8888> But where is the hosts.ect in ubuntu?
[05:39] <fiendskull9> nich0s: fluxbox definately
[05:39] <bruenig> haiyai, no idea, nat always worked well with me
[05:39] <pushpop> Is there a way to force an install ex apt-get install ?
[05:39] <relachs> Hmm, unfortunetely i dont see a way atm
[05:39] <eternalswd> tehsu, try checking again after doing apt-get install gnome-applets
[05:39] <dr_willis> nich0s,  one without lots of eyecandy
[05:39] <cvp> matthew_w: I've had no problems... so I'm not sure I'm equipped to help you out.
[05:39] <bruenig> you may be behind a firewall?
[05:39] <Pulshion> bruenig -- my monitor is acting weird and its all the way up, in games like cs, doom3, the dark spots are pitch black and you cant see anything
[05:39] <nich0s> dr_willis, I hate candy :p
[05:39] <omoore> distantbody, and i just don't want to get into a situation where i have to fall back to 'plan b' again
[05:39] <eternalswd> tehsu, * apt-get install gnome-applets
[05:39] <eternalswd> tehsu, * sudo apt-get install gnome-applets
[05:39] <darksoul_> why doesn't ubuntu 64 allow 32bit to run without coding? i just dont understand that
[05:39] <giga> s_h_a_d_o_w_s on the forums
[05:40] <tehsu> already the newst..
[05:40] <Don_jr> Does ubuntu come with a pre-installed firewall?
[05:40] <matthew_w> Can anyone point me to a FAQ on VNCing into a windows box?  or tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[05:40] <Warbo> !firewall
[05:40] <gidim> darksoul_: It's a matter of the libraries you have installed.
[05:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[05:40] <distantbody> omoore: If it gets broken. just reinstall it, as long as your virtual machines are fine....
[05:40] <jman8888> ... Now im being ignored...
[05:40] <fiendskull9> nich0s: i have quite a few screenshots demonstrating fluxbox (what i use), and it uses about 100mb ram. and occaisonally 1% of my p4
[05:40] <Pulshion> Don_jr -- get firestarter
[05:40] <tehsu> eternalswd, its, already installed..
[05:40] <fiendskull9> nich0s: just the kde wallet system uses 100mb ram :D
[05:40] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: have you already looked at the VNC web site?
[05:40] <omoore> distantbody, yeah.. i know.. but...
[05:40] <bruenig> darksoul_, it is supposed to be available in edgy, a multiarch system. Do any other OSes have the ability to run both 64 and 32, I am asking because I don't know does windows?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Don_jr,  linux has firewalling fetures built in.. you can install more powerfull config/front ends to the basic firealling features.
[05:40] <Warbo> jman8888: Do you mean /etc/hosts?
[05:40] <nich0s> fiendskull9, Assuming that I know nothing about linux.(period) How would I go about obtaining and replacing my shell
[05:40] <dasGewitte1> what's the command to compile a file?
[05:40] <nich0s> fiendskull9, ROFL
[05:40] <Don_jr> Okay, I've got to get it installed and hope my wireless card works as I've been told it will before I wory about it.
[05:41] <nich0s> fiendskull9, And KDE is out the window for me :P
[05:41] <dr_willis> nich0s,  which 'shell' are you refering to?
[05:41] <fiendskull9> nich0s: do you have ubuntu installed?
[05:41] <jman8888> Warbo, ? Will i be able to block sites like in windows with it?
[05:41] <fiendskull9> dr_willis: he might be using the wrong terminology
[05:41] <nich0s> fiendskull9, Yes
[05:41] <dr_willis> nich0s,  you using 'shell' in the windows way - meaning the GUI/Desktop?
[05:41] <prophet> anyone?
[05:41] <fiendskull9> nich0s: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:41] <omoore> distantbody, fedora had a miss-match of theheaders witht he running kernel at one point.. which meant that vmware-config.pl would nver work (even witht he support mod )
[05:41] <fiendskull9> nich0s: then log out to gdm
[05:41] <m0nkeys> HI
[05:41] <nich0s> dr_willis, The server environment :P (is a gates baby) osrry
[05:41] <darksoul_> bruenig, No, i dont think so, i never really tried it on windows, but i would think they would have both librarys installed, just the 64bit as the main one..
[05:41] <tehsu> eternalswd, any ideas onw how i can get my cpu and gpu to run cooler and slower in linux?
[05:41] <dr_willis> nich0s,  if you have different windowmanagers/dekstops installed the GDM login menu has where you pick what one to use.
[05:41] <fiendskull9> nich0s: select sessions from the options menu in bottom left corner
[05:42] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: http://www.realvnc.com/
[05:42] <Pulshion> is there a way to set contrast and brightness using some apps, i used to be able to use catalyst control center in windows how do i do it in ubuntu?
[05:42] <fiendskull9> nich0s: and select fluxbox
[05:42] <jman8888> Warbo, ?
[05:42] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; Yes; and I'm going over it again now.
[05:42] <omoore> distantbody, i ended up having to downgrade the kernel to get vmware back up...
[05:42] <fiendskull9> Pulshion: install the ati drivers, and the atitool
[05:42] <darksoul_> Is the ubuntu forums down?
[05:42] <distantbody> omoore: but if you install the correct header on Ubuntu it will install fine
[05:42] <profoX`> Pulshion: ati has a tool to change a few settings on linux..
[05:42] <Don_jr> Also, running ubuntu am I going to need to, or should I, log in and out each use?
[05:42] <profoX`> Pulshion: how is it called again..
[05:42] <tehsu> Does anyone know how to get the cpu and gpu to run at a lower mhz at all times?
[05:42] <m0nkeys> Does anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )
[05:42] <omoore> distantbody, right..  i follow...
[05:42] <tuv> is there a simple way to show the Home folder icon on the desktop?
[05:42] <profoX`> Pulshion: only available if you installed the fglrx drivers though
[05:42] <relachs> Hmmm, when i tried ubuntu few days ago, i could only enter a WEP key, but i need to setup for WPA i think, or the other way around
[05:42] <emoboy> hey...anyone here have time for a quick question
[05:42] <omoore> distantbody, i just wanted to hear from someone using it that things work well
[05:42] <relachs> for WLAN
[05:42] <Pulshion> profoX` -- i have driver installed already
[05:43] <profoX`> Pulshion: then it should be around somewhere :)
[05:43] <omoore> distantbody, before i went through the bother of building another host environment
[05:43] <nich0s> fiendskull9, gdm??? (nich0s =! moron) returns false alot :P
[05:43] <IcemanV9> !ask > emoboy
[05:43] <profoX`> Pulshion: fglrx-control
[05:43] <matthew_w> What would the screen number be for a Windows Box
[05:43] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: when I (rarely) start up my winblows box, I have set VNC to auto-start as a service.  Did you do that already?  It will show up in the system tray.
[05:43] <profoX`> Pulshion: i think thats the command
[05:43] <wooya510> Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Maybe, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?
[05:43] <matthew_w> !ask > matthew_w
[05:43] <Munchkinguy> Is it possible to get OpenOffice Draw to do facing pages?
[05:43] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; yes.
[05:43] <fiendskull9> nich0s: join the channel #omg real quick, this place is really congested
[05:43] <omoore> distantbody, i've used vmware reliably since pre 1.0.. the fedora 5 hickup has been the only time i had a problem
[05:43] <relachs> i reboot (see you in ubuntu, i hope *g*)
[05:43] <emoboy> anyone have any experience running/installing ubuntu under windows and Parallels Workstation?
[05:44] <Pulshion> profoX` -- command not fund
[05:44] <profoX`> Pulshion: The control panel shows detailed information on your display adapter and allows you to set dual screen options, adjust gamma correction and set TV out options.
[05:44] <distantbody> omoore: sure. All I can say is that I have had VMWARE player (free) and Server (also free) and the work fine.
[05:44] <UncleOp22> matthew_2: don't set a screen number.  Just use the hostname (or IP address)
[05:44] <w30> tuv, what window manager are you using?
[05:44] <profoX`> Pulshion: slocate fglrx-control
[05:44] <tuv> w30, gnome
[05:44] <wooya510> Can I ask a question? I 'm configuring LDAP Server in  my system. Perhaps, There is user who have been installed LDAP packages?
[05:44] <m0nkeys> Does anyone have experience on running ubuntu using SheepShaver??? ( PPC guys ? )
[05:44] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; then VNC viewer acts as though I didn't put in an IP address.
[05:44] <Pulshion> profoX` -- still nothing
[05:44] <matthew_w> UncleOp22: and just clears the box
[05:44] <omoore> distantbody, k.. i use player on most boxes.. but prefer workstation.. the extrea features are easily worth the cost :)
[05:44] <prophet> is there anything else other then valkntu
[05:44] <IcemanV9> !ask > wooya510
[05:44] <profoX`> Pulshion: okay that's strange.. try apt-getting it? sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[05:44] <omoore> distantbody, the whole snapshot thing is very sweet
[05:45] <piratepenguin> what do these messages mean in my dmesg? "ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 1571906" I've got about 20 of 'em
[05:45] <kitsuneofdoom> I have been using fwcutter with a 64 bit driver to access wireless on a bcm4319 card on my Ubuntu 6.06 64 bit laptop. I have been unable to connect using iwconfig and dhclient, but iwlist works, and reliably shows the local wireless networks
[05:45] <sizzam> fyi - forums are back up
[05:45] <emoboy> how do i install ubuntu under a virtual machine....do i need a partition to install it to?
[05:45] <Pulshion> profoX` -- yep, installed it
[05:45] <profoX`> Pulshion: otherwise try: fireglconfig
[05:45] <distantbody> omoore: yes, i have had workstation, and snapshoots sure are great...
[05:45] <profoX`> Pulshion: or firegl-config fglrxconfig fglrx-config .. one of those
[05:45] <omoore> distantbody, not to mention the cloning, video, auto sizing of displays, etc
[05:46] <Pulshion> profoX` -- thats a lot of commands lol
[05:46] <profoX`> Pulshion: one of them is the right one :p
[05:46] <omoore> distantbody, (creating video, not video cards)
[05:46] <hayden> how do i enable dma on my dvd drive
[05:46] <tehsu> i still cant find anything for cpu temp
[05:46] <w30> tuv click on places in the panel and then  when you see home folder click and drag it to a blank space on the desktop
[05:46] <profoX`> IcemanV9: me neither.. lol
[05:46] <tehsu> gdesktels is crap
[05:46] <omoore> emoboy, are you asking about a vmware virtual machine?
[05:46] <IcemanV9> tehsu: type "acpi -t" to see the temp
[05:46] <Pulshion> profoX` -- haha none worked
[05:47] <tuv> w30, thanks alot.. that was easy.. exactly what i'm looking for!
[05:47] <emoboy> well im actually wondering about a parallels VM, but i would assume its a similar process
[05:47] <distantbody> omoore:cloneing = copy & paste :-P
[05:47] <emoboy> bascially i want to run ubuntu under windows without dual booting
[05:47] <dr_willis> emoboy,  qemu can do that.
[05:47] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; any idea why it does this?
[05:47] <dr_willis> emoboy,  or vmware
[05:47] <omoore> distantbody, yeah.. pretty much.. except you can clone a snapshot too
[05:47] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: Dumb question: have you gotten VNC to work before?  When I VNC "into" another system from Linux (RH9 - ubuntu someday), I get a box that says, "VNC server:".  When I provide the hostname, it then "clears" that dialog and puts up a new prompt for the VNC password.
[05:47] <profoX`> Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/firegl-config
[05:47] <profoX`> Pulshion: /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrol
[05:47] <tehsu> IcemanV9, how can i check what clock its running at
[05:47] <profoX`> I mean
[05:47] <wooya510>  There is user who know this debug message about LDAP? - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"
[05:48] <profoX`> Pulshion: the last one :) try that
[05:48] <w30> tuv, then right click on the folder and go to properties and click on the icon and pick out a house picture :=)
[05:48] <emoboy> hmm well i have a parallels reg key already, so i would like to use that
[05:48] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[05:48] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[05:48] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; Yes, I've had it working Ubuntu to Ubuntu.  Because I go 192.168.1.5:0 for the 0.0 Xserver screen.
[05:48] <IcemanV9> tehsu: not sure which command to find out its clock running
[05:48] <emoboy> when using a VM, do you install to the HD first then use the VM to boot that install?
[05:48] <Pulshion> profoX` -- odd, is it X11R6 or just X11?
[05:48] <wubrgamer> why is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?
[05:48] <matthew_w> UncleOp22: However, to Windows, it goes Vnc Server: and then I punch in the IP, and it just gives me a prompt for the server again.
[05:49] <profoX`> Pulshion: X11R6
[05:49] <profoX`> Pulshion: odd indeed
[05:49] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: so try this: in an xterm of your choice, type "vncviewer hostname" and see if it prompts you for a password...
[05:49] <BSG75> is there a way to tell ubuntu to not look for my nic at boot?
[05:49] <tuv> w30, where do i look for the picture?
[05:49] <UncleOp22> BSG75: um, install debian instead?  :-)
[05:49] <BSG75> I am this close
[05:49] <Pulshion> profoX` -- btw in that folder all tehre is is X
[05:50] <profoX`> Pulshion: doesnt that work? its from the official manual -- and i remember that that worked on my previous laptop
[05:50] <BSG75> it's my wife's puter .. and ubuntu is really good for her
[05:50] <profoX`> i run ati radeon 7500 now -- not fglrx
[05:50] <Pulshion> profoX` -- where can i get the manual
[05:50] <matthew_w> UncleOp22: huhmm... No, just seems to give me copyright info and stop.
[05:50] <eternalswd> tehsu, sorry can't help you with heat control and I couldn't turn anything up from the forums
[05:50] <emoboy> any ideas :(
[05:50] <BSG75> but this no control crap is driving me nuts :(
[05:50] <Pulshion> profoX` -- sorry for the hastle
[05:50] <mitype2> Hi all I'm new to Linux and having a terrible time getting used to it
[05:50] <profoX`> Pulshion: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html
[05:50] <matthew_w> UncleOp22:  I don't get why - the computer that is running it is running it, it's in a DMZ, it's all correct...
[05:50] <w30> tuv right click on the hom folder icon and then click on properties and then click on the folder picture of that window
[05:50] <wubrgamer> why is firefox still 1.5.0.5 ?
[05:51] <distantbody> emoboy:please restate question
[05:51] <profoX`> Pulshion: newer version: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8.html
[05:51] <IcemanV9> tehsu: i think i found the command -- sudo powernowd -v
[05:51] <emoboy> when using a VM, do you install to the HD partition first (as you usually would) then use the VM to boot that install?
[05:51] <emoboy> or is there an easier way
[05:51] <tuv> w30, i got that.. but in what folder to i find a house icon file?
[05:51] <Pulshion> profoX` -- where to check what version of drivers i haev installed?
[05:51] <emoboy> im talking VM's in general, im actually using parallels
[05:51] <fiendskull9> note to self, never apt-get install linux for fun
[05:51] <fiendskull9> hahaha
[05:51] <distantbody> emoboy:install what ? VMWare?
[05:52] <emoboy> i want to install ubuntu
[05:52] <emoboy> under windows using parallels
[05:52] <eternalswd> wubrgamer, the 1.5.0.6 update was to fix a regression for windows media plugin, so windows only
[05:52] <UncleOp22> matthew_w:  If it's really "all correct", consider going the other way around: windows into ubuntu/linux.  If that works, then you may need to specifically tell the windoze vncserver to allow external connections.  But IIRC, it pretty much "just worked" for me.
[05:52] <distantbody> emoboy: i'll private message
[05:52] <emoboy> so would i install ubuntu from the cd as usual, then boot XP and run the VM
[05:52] <emoboy> ok thx
[05:52] <matthew_w> UncleOp22; the windows to ubuntu one works flawlessly, tried that like an hour ago.
[05:52] <ElementalDragon> can someone please help me out....... prefferably in a PM?
[05:52] <omoore> emoboy, for *vmware*.. you create a virtual machine.. a virtual machine consists of a virutal hard drive that will grow to a designated size.. however...
[05:52] <wubrgamer> but there IS a 1.5.0.6 for linux
[05:53] <omoore> emoboy, initially.. the virutal hard drive is *not* partitioned
[05:53] <profoX`> Pulshion: wait.. i am wrong ...
[05:53] <omoore> emoboy, it si the job of the os to partition it...
[05:53] <profoX`> thats about aticonfig.. thats to configure the drivers and edit xorg -- not to change colors etc
[05:53] <eternalswd> wubrgamer, that's news to me
[05:53] <tehsu> IcemanV9, i wonder if i can set it to never go up past a certain level
[05:53] <profoX`> stupid ATI
[05:53] <omoore> emoboy, so your virtual machine has a virtuarl cpu/hd/cdrom/nic/etc..
[05:53] <UncleOp22> matthew_w: Hrm.  OK, lemme' power up the spawn of Redmond.  It will take a couple...
[05:53] <wubrgamer> meybe they just bumped the version number to keep it all on the same track ?
[05:53] <matthew_w> UncleOp22: It's ok!
[05:53] <emoboy> so i can partition during the install under parallels? and then install to the actual harddrive?
[05:53] <matthew_w> UncleOp22: I will go over to the windows box and tinker.
[05:53] <tehsu> anyone know about underclocking the ati x700 mobile gpu
[05:53] <matthew_w> UncleOp22:  Thanks
[05:54] <omoore> emoboy, then you boot the vm, of the cd (cd image) and install the os into the os as you normally would...
[05:54] <Pulshion> profoX` -- ahh im so confused now lol
[05:54] <IcemanV9> tehsu: not sure .. that's what i am looking for an answer myself. :)
[05:54] <omoore> emoboy, but that's vwmare.. i dont' know about parallels
[05:54] <tehsu> k
[05:54] <tehsu> ty
[05:54] <profoX`> Pulshion: yea me too.. blame ati
[05:54] <distantbody> emoboy: Did you get my message?
[05:54] <Pulshion> profoX` -- drivers work fine tho
[05:54] <omoore> emoboy, if it works like vm's i've used, yes.. you'd partition during install...
[05:54] <ElementalDragon> Why can't i boot into Ubuntu Live?
[05:54] <w30> tuv, there should be some pictures of icons show up in a window, scroll through the pictures if they show up.
[05:54] <Pulshion> profoX` -- i run doom3, cs on high settings no lags whatesoever
[05:54] <emoboy> i did not distant...running irc on Opera :(
[05:54] <profoX`> Pulshion: nice
[05:54] <omoore> emoboy, the ones i have uses only create a virtual hard drive... not a virtual hard drive partition
[05:54] <profoX`> i dont know where to find it then
[05:55] <profoX`> did you do an slocate
[05:55] <profoX`> on euhm
[05:55] <profoX`> slocate firegl
[05:55] <profoX`> and slocate fglrx
[05:55] <profoX`> ?
[05:55] <distantbody> emoby: ok.
[05:55] <agib> hey, could anyone give me advice: I want to set up an ubuntu LAMP (maybe rails) server and I have a comp sitting around with 2 75GB hdds in it -- what would the best partitioning scheme be?  is software RAID worth it?
[05:55] <omoore> emoboy, but again.. i don't even know what parallels is
[05:55] <IcemanV9> tehsu: instead of gdesklets, try this one -- multiload_applet (cpu, load avg, mem, net, swap)
[05:55] <distantbody> emoboy: Just use VMWare.
[05:55] <tehsu> k
[05:55] <omoore> emoboy, i agree with distantbody .. vmware is a really good virtual machine
[05:55] <Pulshion> profoX` -- yea i did slocate firegl right now and i got fireglcontrolpanel
[05:56] <BSG75> finally :) the damn thing was trying to load Intel 3945 wireless driver ..
[05:56] <eternalswd> wubrgamer, they probably update all of their numbers for every OS even when an update only affects one for file management consistency, but I assure you that 1.5.0.6 for linux is the same as 1.5.0.5
[05:56] <BSG75> I am hoping NOW it will load the ndis driver
[05:56] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i have a question, i have all of the dependencies for XGL and Compiz, how do i enable it?
[05:56] <Pulshion> profoX` -- it was weird, i restarted the terminal
[05:56] <tehsu> IcemanV9, do u know the aptget for it
[05:56] <emoboy> ok ill try that then
[05:56] <Pulshion> profoX` -- it worked now
[05:56] <emoboy> thanks guys, ill let you know
[05:56] <profoX`> Pulshion: yea lol.. stupid ati ._.
[05:56] <profoX`> :P
[05:56] <wooya510> I have a problem about LDAP Configuration.
[05:56] <Pulshion> profoX` -- stupid me maybe haha
[05:56] <profoX`> with their stupid control panel
[05:56] <profoX`> being so hidden
[05:57] <tehsu> IcemanV9, have u ever underclocked a gpu
[05:57] <profoX`> Pulshion: noo! never blame yourself ;) it's always the proprietary programs that are wrong ;)
[05:57] <Pulshion> profoX` -- all i can change in the control panel is gamma
[05:57] <profoX`> Pulshion: well..
[05:57] <profoX`> really?
[05:57] <IcemanV9> tehsu: i think it is already installed .. and no, i never underclocked gpu before
[05:57] <wooya510> There is users who know this debug messages - "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)"
[05:57] <profoX`> i thoughr brightness too
[05:57] <distantbody> emoboy: use VMware Server, its free and you can make new virtual machines withit (as oppose to just the player)
[05:57] <Pulshion> profoX` -- it took me a whole night find out why x was crashing and it was because my dad switched the video in cable :(
[05:58] <profoX`> Pulshion: cant u just use your monitor to change brightness too?
[05:58] <tehsu> i really wanna underclock mine on my laptop, its constantly runing a sucking battery
[05:58] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anybody know how to switch from Xorg to Xair?
[05:58] <profoX`> Kragnerac: what is Xair
[05:58] <Pulshion> profoX` -- my monitor is going bad, so i have no clue but everything is dark, even if brightness and contrast are all the way up, in windy i used catalyst to change settings
[05:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS> How do i enable XGL?
[05:59] <nich0s> All should praise fiendskull9 for he teaches n00bs in a friendly direct and generally awesome manner :)
[05:59] <distantbody> emoboy: (I think he has left ;) Free for Linux, Windows, No Mac version (tho comming very soon)
[05:59] <fiendskull9> hehehe
[05:59] <profoX`> ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[05:59] <fiendskull9> nich0s: you can feel more at home with my fluxbox theme, lol
[06:00] <kitsuneofdoom> ok, now I realize I hae a new problem. I have a broadcom card, a 4319, and it is extremely sensitive to low signals in Linux, rejecting a lot of things it accepts fine in windows
[06:00] <fiendskull9> nich0s: to install themes, you need to put them in ~/.fluxbox/styles/
[06:00] <kitsuneofdoom> I even thought it didn't work, until I tried it right next to the router
[06:00] <fiendskull9> nich0s: join #omg again
[06:00] <nich0s> fiendskull9, check the other channel for my log :P
[06:00] <eternalswd> !xgl
[06:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:01] <emoboy> :) still here...thanks guys ill try it
[06:01] <x1977x> does anyone know why i would get this line: "E: Couldn't find package fglrx" when i try to apt-get it?  ("sudo apt-get install fglrx")  i have all the binary repositories checked...
[06:01] <robert_> I need to install headers so I can compile gaim-2.0.0-beta3 :/
[06:01] <Pulshion> profoX` -- should i update the drivers? i have 8.25.18 installed?
[06:01] <IcemanV9> tehsu: wish i knew the answer .. this is definitely on my "to-do" list. i'd like to know how to control its cpu step as well.
[06:01] <UncleOp22> did matthew_w of the VNC problem come back?
[06:01] <kitsuneofdoom> x1977x: I think the package is called something else
[06:01] <profoX`> Pulshion: not if everything works fine -- unless you REALLY want the newest drivers but then you'll have to install them manually
[06:01] <jman8888> Please Awnser me.  Would a pc slow down if upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10?
[06:01] <kitsuneofdoom> x1977x: xorg-driver-fglrx or something
[06:02] <Pulshion> profoX` -- yea, everything does work fine, but usually the newer the better
[06:02] <profoX`> xserver-xorg-fglrx x1977x
[06:02] <profoX`> no
[06:02] <profoX`> what kitsuneofdoom says
[06:02] <Pulshion> profoX` -- in breezy i could not get my drivers to work so i switched bak to windy, now i aint going bak lol
[06:02] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: I don't believe so, but the latest version is 6.06. it depends on the window manager a lot
[06:02] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: check out xubuntu 6.06
[06:02] <eternalswd> robert_, I have a source for gaim2 beta three that you can add to sources.lst, but as I recall, you need libc6 from edgy for it to work
[06:03] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: or use openbox or fluxbox
[06:03] <wooya510> Users who know about LDAP configuration help me, plz
[06:03] <thedude45> hey, wierd question.. anyone had success running their linux box as a gateway using a wired nic to connect to internet, and wirless to connect to internal network
[06:03] <Don_jr> Are there any other nix installs that are only 1 cd?
[06:03] <ElementalDragon> profox: any chance you might be able to be of some assistance to a problem i'm having booting to Ubuntu Live?
[06:03] <thedude45> is it even possible
[06:03] <BSG75> anyone know where does ubuntu loads it's mods from?
[06:03] <thedude45> Don_jr, debian
[06:03] <profoX`> ElementalDragon: which problem
[06:03] <Rusty1> Don_jr:  kanotix
[06:03] <profoX`> Pulshion: that sucks :P
[06:04] <profoX`> Pulshion: i'd say -- buy a new monitor lol
[06:04] <distantbody> Don_jr: I really hope you get Ubuntu working because its really worth it...
[06:04] <ElementalDragon> well.... with the x86 version, i choose the first option, to boot to Live or install Ubuntu
[06:04] <n1xt3r> wooya510: read the man pages and run ldap in debug mode
[06:04] <ElementalDragon> it get's to the Ubuntu loading screen, where it loads everything it needs to run off the Live CD....
[06:04] <wooya510> n1xt3r, //i did it
[06:04] <tehsu> IcemanV9, i would really like to control the step and the gpu clock and ill be staying on ubuntu for my laptop
[06:04] <ElementalDragon> then it comes to the black screen with a blinking underscore cursor in the top left corner, the cursor blinks a couple times, then stops
[06:04] <UncleOp22> Don-jr: knoppix, too, I think.  Then there's DSL (Damned Small Linux)
[06:04] <tehsu> till then back to windows
[06:04] <Pulshion> profoX` -- have to wait till my bday, but i wanna play some doom lol...just looking for a solution since i had this monitor for so long and played games fine in windy with my custom setting in catalyst
[06:04] <wooya510> n1xt3r, i did it
[06:05] <Don_jr> I'm workin on it still, I booted the computerand it was setting up ubuntu and came back downstairs and the computer was shut off
[06:05] <profoX`> Pulshion: well -- that sucks :P
[06:05] <SlaSheR84> how come my ubuntu server cd boots once then never again?
[06:05] <profoX`> Pulshion: i know you can change brightness in nvidia fine..
[06:05] <profoX`> havent run an ati in a while
[06:05] <Pulshion> profoX` -- darn ati
[06:06] <x1977x> synaptic says i have "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "xserver-xorg-driver-ati" already, and i got the same error with "xserver-xorg-fglrx"..any thoughts?
[06:06] <IcemanV9> tehsu: sorry about that, but keep googling for holy grail answer. (i'll do the same for myself)
[06:06] <Don_jr> distantbody If linux is so compatible, what would be the difference in getting one over the other?  wouldn't most things that work in red hat work in ubuntu and in debian aswell?
[06:06] <wooya510> n1xt3r: "bdb_dn2id: get failed: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found (-30990)" you know this debug message?
[06:06] <tehsu> yeah
[06:06] <Pulshion> profoX` -- is this the only control panel they got?
[06:06] <ElementalDragon> profox:  want me to just PM you with the issue i'm having?
[06:06] <ElementalDragon> easier to keep track that way
[06:07] <profoX`> ElementalDragon: if you think i am the right person to ask -- yes
[06:07] <jman8888> kitsuneofdoom, So even though 5.04 says it needs 32mb ! It will run the same as 5.10 or 6.06?
[06:07] <profoX`> Pulshion: i think so.. maybe theres an other one that can change brightness but i dont know where you would be able to get it :)
[06:07] <Don_jr> I"m having the ubuntu boot check the CD for errors then will try and install again if it's all clear
[06:07] <sivanicon> How do i get the rest of my monitors resolutions to come up?
[06:08] <Don_jr> OMG, there's exe files on this?
[06:08] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do I make a bootable floppy?
[06:08] <Don_jr> I didn't think nix systems used .exe files
[06:08] <n1xt3r> n1xt3r: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?
[06:08] <Pulshion> profoX` -- ok thanx for the help anyway, and you said i can set dual monitors, tv out/in in the control panel, where at?
[06:08] <jman8888> kitsuneofdoom, ? Can i feel safe upgrading
[06:08] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: what you want to do is a server install. That will just install the base packages, and a text interface. Then you just get openbox
[06:08] <distantbody> Don_jr: Each distro focuses on different aspects
[06:09] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: or keep just the text interface if you want
[06:09] <Don_jr> okay, but theoretically, you could add anything to one that you could another right?
[06:09] <supernix> Welp I am now running Gnome so I am now semi ubuntu
[06:09] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do I make a bootable floppy in linux?
[06:09] <Don_jr> so it's only a matter of getting the most from the original install?
[06:09] <supernix> I still like my kubuntu though
[06:09] <jrsims> anyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?
[06:09] <Don_jr> so there's less to get later
[06:09] <profoX`> Pulshion: tv out -- somewhere -- about dual monitors im not sure, but you can do that with aticonfig for sure (that will edit xorg.conf iirc)
[06:10] <profoX`> its been awhile since i ran ati fglrx:)
[06:10] <distantbody> Don_jr: yes, but sometimes it's more hassle than its worth
[06:10] <Pulshion> profoX` -- there is no gui to set that up? i have my xorg edited right now
[06:10] <Don_jr> So Ubuntu, in your oppinion, is the most compatible for new users then?
[06:10] <distantbody> Don_jr: and you might as just well install that different distro...
[06:11] <distantbody> Don_jr:Yes
[06:11] <kerwonz> hi i need some help, i ready installed ubuntu dapper, but i cant load windows :( i dont know how to do this... what can i do?
[06:11] <Don_jr> Okay, I'll stick with trying, and if it doesn't work out...I'll order the CD from them....heh
[06:11] <tjcarter> hm, ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning, "we like brown, so shush!"
[06:11] <profoX`> Pulshion: i don't think so
[06:11] <IcemanV9> jman8888: this thread might help ya -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224723&highlight=install+small+ram
[06:11] <tjcarter> hey chalcedony
[06:11] <IcemanV9> tjcarter: lol
[06:11] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do I make a bootable floppy in linux, anyone?
[06:12] <profoX`> kerwonz: sudo fdisk -l -- post output on www.pastebin.ca
[06:12] <profoX`> kerwonz: you mean you can't boot windows anymore, right?
[06:12] <Don_jr> I sat here for almost an hour and a half waiting for this to install and nothing....re burned the CD.  This is a pain
[06:12] <kerwonz> profoX, yes
[06:12] <Don_jr> but if it works, will be well worth it
[06:12] <tjcarter> IcemanV9: according to feh (other network), it may also mean "Can't install Debian", "Sick of compiling Gentoo", or "My friends will laugh at me if I buy a Mac"...
[06:12] <IcemanV9> Don_jr: did you md5sum the CD?
[06:13] <Don_jr> get me away from microsoft is all I care...lol
[06:13] <profoX`> kerwonz: do you know how to open a terminal window?
[06:13] <kerwonz> profoX: http://pastebin.ca/147124
[06:13] <_relachs> bi need help with assigning Mountpoints to Partitions
[06:13] <distantbody> Don_jr: It may be the disc drive/laser...
[06:13] <Don_jr> no, not sure exactly what that means or how to us eit
[06:13] <profoX`> kerwonz: ok wait
[06:13] <kerwonz> profoX: yes i know.
[06:13] <Don_jr> the cd has run anything else I"ve ever put in it
[06:13] <Don_jr> the cdrom that is
[06:13] <IcemanV9> Don_jr: it'll check if CD is ok or not
[06:13] <kerwonz> so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault
[06:13] <w30> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, at the cooam line type mkboot
[06:13] <tjcarter> IcemanV9: or maybe it just means, "It's sure nice to have a dist that actually works."
[06:13] <Don_jr> okay, getting GUI now, we're moving along this time
[06:13] <kerwonz> profoX: so i did it... title windows root (hd0,4) chainloader +1 makeactive savedefault but doesnt works :(
[06:14] <IcemanV9> tjcarter: :)
[06:14] <w30> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, maybe better type mkboot -help
[06:14] <Don_jr> no errors durring the load sequence
[06:14] <profoX`> kerwonz: now type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    -- and copy that file to www.pastebin.ca -- and I'll tell you if somethings wrong and/or if you have to change something
[06:14] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> w30 thanx
[06:14] <distantbody> Don_jr: That sounds positive:)
[06:14] <profoX`> (hd0,4) should be right though
[06:14] <jrsims> anyone know where I can get pixel fonts for Gnome?
[06:14] <jman8888> kitsuneofdoom, No the acctual Cd Case (from shipit) said it needs 32 mb ram (but i have 128 so i should be ok with 5.10) i dont think i can handle 6.06... (How can i upgrade from a Cd.
[06:14] <Don_jr> it's gone this far once before, I had it runnin on live CD properly
[06:14] <IcemanV9> Don_jr: we're behind ya! :)
[06:15] <kontiki> Hi - What sw lets me view the bash terminal sessions in real time, for people logged into my box? (laptop)
[06:15] <Don_jr> then when I clicked install, I sat here for an hour and a half with nothing to show me it was doing anything......and was suggested I reburn the ISO at a slower speed and it might speed up the install process
[06:15] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: I'm not impressed that greater versions mean greater ram consumption neccesarily
[06:15] <kitsuneofdoom> 128 should be fine with 6.06 server install
[06:15] <kerwonz> profoX: oks
[06:15] <kitsuneofdoom> jman8888: sorry, see two above
[06:16] <Don_jr> gaim is compatible with MSN correct? and there's an IRC client built into ubuntu?
[06:16] <tjcarter> the gooey thing on the CD..  Is that isolinux or some really abused GRUB?  Anyway, if I leave it running for a few seconds, it locks.
[06:16] <kitsuneofdoom> Don_jr: I think there's one in gaim
[06:16] <distantbody> Don_jr gaim is preinstalled
[06:16] <sapaki> does any of you know what this is:
[06:16] <Don_jr> as long as both of those are true with firefox, it'll do everything I want it to.
[06:16] <n1xt3r> wooya510: no, I've setup ldap with samba before, but don't recall anything about matching keys. What are you setting up ldap for?
[06:16] <tjcarter> anything I can do within 10 seconds to get it the hell out of that gooey will cause the system to work fine.
[06:16] <IcemanV9> jman8888: i have installed dapper flight x on 128mb box before it dies without any problem.
[06:16] <kerwonz> profoX: http://pastebin.ca/147125
[06:16] <jman8888> kitsuneofdoom, But its a gnome install. Works great and fast with 5.04 so i just want to know how to use the cd to upgrade.
[06:16] <tjcarter> I think it's the shared mem
[06:17] <jman8888> IcemanV9, Dapper flight
[06:17] <sapaki> linux source tree make is incomplete or missing!           S
[06:17] <jman8888> ?
[06:17] <Don_jr> if I like it on my laptop enough I'll check this computer i"m on now and make sure all the hardware will take and I'll run it here too
[06:17] <Don_jr> only 2 things I worry about here are my wireless USB networking stuff and my vid card
[06:18] <distantbody> Don_jr: You should have daul booted it on your faster computer!:-/
[06:18] <IcemanV9> jman8888: before the official release, i used dapper flight back in spring/early summer before my box died 5 months ago.
[06:18] <imafunnyguy> yummy
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[06:18] <profoX`> not again ._.
[06:18] <_relachs> stupid question but, im stuck at the 'setting up mountpoints dialog' must i assign my ext3 partition i plan to put ubuntu on to hda5 AND '/'?
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[06:18] <torpedo|dog> !ops
[06:18] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:18] <fiendskull9> wtf
[06:18] <Hobbsee> got him :)
[06:18] <Don_jr> I'm not sure I trust myself to do that properly and I didn't want to screw up my good one till I knew what I was doing.
[06:18] <jman8888> ?
[06:18] <Agrajag-> gday, i've put a dapper cd in a breezy machine, edited the sources.list to only have this line: "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" however an apt-get update doesn't seem to actually do anything - it seems as if it doens't think i have the dapper cd mounted. how can i fix this?
[06:18] <torpedo|dog> Many thanks, Hobbsee :)
[06:18] <kerwonz> profoX: you can see that?
[06:18] <w30> kontiki, typing users at the commanc line will tell you the names of the users logged in and how many times by repeating their username but it don't give any thing more
[06:18] <HellDragon> wtf
[06:18] <jman8888> !ubotu upgrade
[06:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:19] <profoX`> Hobbsee: he's going around everywhere -- he did it 3x on ##linux
[06:19] <Don_jr> and knowing now that my wireless isn't supported directly by Ubuntu I woulnd't be able to get online with this one if I dual booted it
[06:19] <cynical> lol who would use tor to spam the channel?....
[06:19] <Kragnerac> !ubotu AIGLX
[06:19] <cynical> thats retarded
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AIGLX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <profoX`> kerwonz: yea one quick note..
[06:19] <HellDragon> cynical: kinda
[06:19] <profoX`> kerwonz: never put something like that between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS tags
[06:19] <Agrajag-> jman8888: if that was for me, it's not helping as i don't have access to synaptic.
[06:19] <phargle> who still uses wireless
[06:19] <cynical> helldragon: I mean honestly, its not like hes going to accomplish anything
[06:19] <SlaSheR84> should i use alcohol 120% to burn ubuntu server or something else
[06:19] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well, it's competely automagical and it wond harm your windows(?) install...
[06:19] <cynical> phargle: I do
[06:19] <HellDragon> cynical: thats sick
[06:20] <Don_jr> Okay Live CD is up and running.
[06:20] <xepher> phargle: i do
[06:20] <profoX`> kerwonz: put the block with windows BEFORE: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[06:20] <kontiki> w30: thx, but I want to view a copy of their bash session in real time - any idea how to do that, or what irc channel to ask that on?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> profoX`: we cant really do much about it, except for block tor
[06:20] <profoX`> kerwonz: otherwise you'll lose that entry in grub with a new kernel update
[06:20] <torpedo|dog> SlaSheR84: any CD burner software will work, so long as it can burn .iso
[06:20] <profoX`> Hobbsee: i know
[06:20] <Don_jr> but I woulnd't be able to be on here and chat while I was installing and get help either
[06:20] <Agrajag-> jman8888: also i want to use the cd, not use http. doing it with http works.
[06:20] <profoX`> Hobbsee: i just don't get what's supposed to be so funny/amusing about it ._.
[06:21] <cynical> Hobbsee: its sad that you have to resort to that.  I dont really see why anyone would want to waste their time doing it..
[06:21] <profoX`> how can someone have fun with that
[06:21] <Don_jr> CDrom is still buzzin, I'm not clickin install till it's done
[06:21] <Hobbsee> cynical: true that.  they've only recently been unbanned, too
[06:21] <Hobbsee> profoX`: exactly
[06:21] <tjcarter> This thing is becoming an UbunTV  =D
[06:21] <kerwonz> profoX`, yes, but when i try boot i cant do that, maybe can fix that?
[06:21] <jman8888> Agrajag, I used the cd before. I just added the cd and did what ubotu said to do. It can be done in nao...
[06:21] <jman8888> nano
[06:21] <profoX`> kerwonz: wait..
[06:21] <UncleOp22> If "matthew_w" of the VNC problems returns, tell him to look in the pastebox and search for his moniker.
[06:21] <distantbody> Don_jr: just as long as you have at least one good install:)
[06:21] <w30> kontiki, looking at the logs should show more (/var/log)
[06:21] <nich0s> ls
[06:22] <Don_jr> now there's an error. AOFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet".  there's a problem loading that.  do I want to delete the applet from my configuration??
[06:23] <Don_jr> it's asking me to delete or not
[06:23] <BSG75> haha you need to blacklist bcm43xx and it doesn't load the free driver ... THEN you can use ndis driver ... what a pain
[06:23] <kerwonz> profoX`, okey
[06:23] <distantbody> Don_jr: No...
[06:23] <Don_jr> ok
[06:23] <Agrajag-> so why wouldn't apt-get realise i have a dapper cd mounted and to use the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted" line in my sources.list?
[06:24] <Don_jr> I"m hopeing it will install this time.  I've been trying all day to download a version of nix to install, this is the first one that's gotten this far up to this point....
[06:24] <Don_jr> cd is done buzzin, do I need to do anything before I click 'install'?
[06:24] <distantbody> Don_jr: What are the other buttons?
[06:24] <nich0s> YES!
[06:24] <Don_jr> only 2 are on the desktop, examples and install
[06:25] <distantbody> Don_jr: yes, install:)
[06:25] <Don_jr> there are other things in the....being a windows fool I only know to call it a taskbar at the top of the screen, applications, places, system and a globe and what looks liek probably e-mail
[06:25] <Don_jr> okay, just install now
[06:25] <Elda> Yeee finally back online
[06:25] <xnull-> heya anybody using  edgy (development branch)  ?
[06:25] <nich0s> Elda, Welcome back
[06:25] <Don_jr> pray for me....I"ll need it! lol
[06:25] <Elda> I hate having to leech off of someone elses internet >.<
[06:26] <nich0s> Don_jr, Dominus et espirio santi or somthing
[06:26] <distantbody> Don_jr: There all the programs that you can use off of the live cd, so it isnt actually installed anything yet...
[06:26] <Elda> The cable people are coming soon to hook up our internet/tv though so it will be nifty xd
[06:26] <profoX`> kerwonz: maybe rootnoverify works better ?
[06:26] <Don_jr> should anything come on the screen when install begins?
[06:26] <Elda> xD
[06:26] <kerwonz> profoX`: letme try, brb
[06:26] <distantbody> Don_jr: yes:language options
[06:27] <IcemanV9> Elda: you'll love it when it is installed. :)
[06:27] <Don_jr> sheesh, last time I hit install it did nothing for an hour..if I'd have known that I wouldn't have sat and waited like that....lol
[06:27] <distantbody> Don_jr: Then time zone (with a pretty map)
[06:27] <nich0s> Don_jr, There should be a flashing epileptic light with a thunderous voice telling you about the benefits of AOL and MICROSOFT :P
[06:27] <profoX`> kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 (oh hes gone-
[06:27] <Don_jr> aol sux worse than microsoft
[06:27] <nich0s> then nix is the os for you
[06:27] <nich0s> 
[06:27] <nich0s> :p
[06:27] <nich0s> and I agre
[06:27] <nich0s> e
[06:27] <distantbody> nich0s::-D
[06:27] <nich0s> distantbody, :))
[06:28] <Don_jr> I'm sick of the microsoft monopoly, that's why I want to try a nix system.
[06:28] <Don_jr> I have seen from being here today that I've got alot to learn before I will drop windows completely, but i"m starting the transition, that's a pluss for me eh? lol
[06:28] <nich0s> Don_jr, Microsoft owns the game Monopoly?!?  The world is ending (btw.. this is a joke, I'm not completely stupid)
[06:29] <Don_jr> okay, disk is going crazy, nothing on screen yet......
[06:29] <w30> nich0s, yours did that too?
[06:29] <lophyte> nich0s: I have a t-shirt that has the monopoly logo on it, only it says "Microsoft" and has bill gates instead of uncle pennybags or whatever his name is
[06:29] <lophyte> :D
[06:29] <nich0s> Don_jr, Believe it or not, I probably know less than you about nix. I just sit here an make smart comments about it until i pass out or have to leave :P
[06:29] <nich0s> lophyte, AWESOME!
[06:30] <nich0s> w30, Yeah... spyware?
[06:30] <nich0s> hehe :P
[06:30] <Don_jr> nich0s lol :-d
[06:30] <nich0s> for example: how to I unzip a tarball from the terminal.
[06:30] <w30> nich0s, go to Wal Mart and by a Game Cube for 45 bucks for gaming. Computers are for computing.
[06:30] <distantbody> Don_jr: Basically it sounds like you've got a slow cd-drive/hdd/cpu combo (i.e. a slow computer).
[06:31] <Don_jr> I dont even know what that means nich0s a tarball???
[06:31] <nich0s> zip file.
[06:31] <PMantis> "Setting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ..."
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> nich0s: You give a good idea though ... a reworked version of the game where all of the "properties" are companies that have had monopoly lawsuit trouble (MS, Carnagie, Alcoa, etc.)  Could be cool.  </ot>
[06:31] <PMantis> I see that every time I run apt-get...
[06:31] <UncleOp22> If I have some spiffy partitions from a RedHat install, will the ubuntu installer want to blow them away and resize, or will it work with what it has?
[06:32] <nich0s> w30, i hate comp games... cept tron... tron rox
[06:32] <KanRiNiN> Hi guys.  I have too many options in Grub, I used to know what to uninstall using apt to get rid of them, but I've forgotten after a few months in Europe.
[06:32] <lophyte> tonyyarusso: I was thinking each property would be one of the many companies that Microsoft has "acquired"
[06:32] <kerwonz> profoX`: doesnt works, says unknow filepartition type 0x... etc.. :(
[06:32] <wweasel> UncleOp22: Depends what you choose. You can manually partition, or tell it to use the largest body of freespace.
[06:32] <profoX`> kerwonz: o_O
[06:32] <nich0s> tonyyarusso, We could make billions!  and then get sued for copyright infringment and monopolistic practices (ironic) :P
[06:32] <profoX`> kerwonz: http://pastebin.ca/147139 < thats how it's supposed to look like
[06:32] <fdsd> Hey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?
[06:32] <wweasel> UncleOp22: If you want to keep old partitions, don't tell it to erase all and use the whole disk.
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> lophyte: Another option.
[06:32] <kerwonz> profoX`: ok, let me see
[06:32] <profoX`> kerwonz: if that doesnt work, try changing rootnoverify to root again..
[06:32] <w30> nich0s, only computer game I ever liked was pong. anything else was to advanced for me
[06:32] <Don_jr> So I just need to sit here and wait for something to happen then?
[06:32] <ScreaminIke> if i installed moinmoin-common from apt... and i have apache2 and mod-perl... where is my wiki? 127.0.0.1/moinmoin ?
[06:33] <wweasel> KanRiNiN: I'm guessing you want to uninstall your old kernels?
[06:33] <profoX`> kerwonz: maybe the order of things is important -- im not sure -- i put it officially how it needs to be
[06:33] <nich0s> w30, I have the reflexes of a drunken sloth and the keying ability of a toddler with a plastic hammer
[06:33] <profoX`> kerwonz: and i put it above the automagic kernels list -- otherwise it will disappear after a kernel update
[06:33] <npodges> don_jr, still having wireless problems?
[06:33] <kid3> can anyone tell me why i got this error: http://channels.debian.net/paste/3539
[06:33] <KanRiNiN> wweasel: yes.
[06:33] <distantbody> UncleOp22: It will probably just use the the biggest amount of unpartitioned space
[06:33] <Don_jr> nope, can't get it to install to find out if I'll have a wireless problem, but I went and bought a card that I was told should be compatible just in case
[06:33] <KanRiNiN> are they the linux header packages?
[06:34] <fdsd> Hey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?
[06:34] <UncleOp22> wweasel: OK - will it ask me where to put /, /usr, /home, etc?  Current table has / at about 350MB, /usr at about 3.5GB, and /home at about 4GB.
[06:34] <kerwonz> profoX`: oks
[06:34] <kevin_> anyone know how to fix this: got xgl/compiz installed, ooo-ed and aah-ed for about 5 minutes when xgl told me "ok go away now" and it tossed me back to the login screen, xgl is now broken no effects and no window borders
[06:34] <w30> nich0s, yeah, in ROTC I couldn't even salute right so I know what you mean.
[06:34] <wweasel> kanrinin: they'll be listed under linux-image
[06:34] <kevin_> oh yeah, and gnome and ati-- and dapper
[06:34] <ScreaminIke> kid3, i'm not an expert, but i think you need to get your kernel source, drop it into the directory where they say it's NOT....
[06:35] <ScreaminIke> and try again
[06:35] <npodges> kevin_: is xgl still running?
[06:35] <npodges> just not compiz
[06:35] <kerwonz> profoX`: let me see.. jeje brb, reboot
[06:35] <profoX`> kerwonz: sata drive?
[06:35] <UncleOp22> distantbody: all 8GB are currently allocated.  I don't care about / or /usr all that much.
[06:35] <profoX`> kerwonz: ok bye..
[06:35] <nich0s> w30, They say that I would type close to 200 wpm if I didn't have to keep going back for typos :P
[06:35] <wweasel> kanrinin: Just uninstall the one(s) with the oldest version number
[06:35] <kerwonz> profoX`: yes its sata
[06:35] <fdsd> Hey guys, Anyone know a way to remove every package that is not needed for ubuntu to just boot to a command line?
[06:35] <distantbody> KanRiNiN: just edit the Grub file
[06:35] <Don_jr> no more annoying popups with firefox in nix right??? (prays he's right)
[06:35] <npodges> fdsd, do a server install
[06:35] <kerwonz> profoX`: it's sata drive, its the problem?
[06:35] <wweasel> UncleOp22: Yes, if you choose to do it manually it will ask you everything.
[06:35] <kevin_> i can login to it, but there are no effects, everythings dog slow, and no window borders
[06:35] <fdsd> npodges, cant
[06:35] <nich0s> hehe
[06:35] <ScreaminIke> if i installed moinmoin-common from apt... and i have apache2 and mod-perl... where is my wiki? 127.0.0.1/moinmoin ?
[06:35] <distantbody> UncleOp22: so you want to delete the previous version of linux?
[06:35] <Don_jr> what was that for?? lol  am I wrong?
[06:36] <npodges> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then, fdsf
[06:36] <pitfalls> kid3, did u install build-essential?
[06:36] <kid3> ScreaminIke: what do you mean?
[06:36] <profoX`> kerwonz: im not sure
[06:36] <UncleOp22> distantbody: yeah, I'm finally leaving RedHat 9.
[06:36] <kid3> pitfalls:  build-essential is already the newest version.
[06:36] <kid3> yup
[06:36] <profoX`> kerwonz: try reboot :) i'll google
[06:36] <nich0s> Don_jr, it is still firefox... there is no difference, save for that it is for linux
[06:36] <wweasel> Don_Jr: well, depends. If a website has pop-ups on it, yes, you'll get pop-ups.
[06:36] <kerwonz> oks
[06:36] <kerwonz> brb
[06:36] <wweasel> Don_Jr: But you won't have spyware launching pop-ups randomly
[06:36] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well, no more annoying popups in *any* version of 'fox with the right extensions installed
[06:37] <Don_jr> I've never used firefox in windows either
[06:37] <ScreaminIke> kid3, go with pitfalls.
[06:37] <nich0s> Don_jr, Until they get around to writing them :P
[06:37] <nich0s> Don_jr, Tell me you weren't using ie6
[06:37] <Don_jr> yep
[06:37] <nich0s> Don_jr, I don't even care if you lie to me..
[06:37] <Don_jr> that's all I've got on this computer right now
[06:37] <UncleOp22> wweasel: thanks; that's what i wanted to hear.  Related question: how much does debian/u want to stuff into the root partition, vs. heading over to /usr?  And what about /opt?
[06:37] <nich0s> rofl
[06:37] <kid3> pitfalls: ?
[06:37] <Don_jr> I probably deserve that one! lol
[06:37] <distantbody> UncleOp22: Well delete the RedHat partitions
[06:38] <npodges> when i try to open synaptic, i get "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:38] <npodges> "
[06:38] <wweasel> nich0s: don't be rude. give him credit for wanting to switch
[06:38] <nich0s> wweasel, lol, we're just messin around :P
[06:38] <wweasel> UncleOp22: Sorry, I'm off to bed. It seems like distantbody might be able to help.
[06:38] <wweasel> good night to you all.
[06:38] <Don_jr> if I thought my belkin wireless usb would be read in Ubuntu I'd try and dual boot this machine out of shear frustration that my other one won't load it!!!!
[06:38] <nich0s> peace
[06:39] <Jbirk> Hi
[06:39] <Don_jr> wweasel we're just goofin off, it's cool
[06:39] <Jbirk> I typed $man woman
[06:39] <Jbirk> No manual entry for women
[06:39] <Jbirk> What is wrong?
[06:39] <nich0s> Don_jr,  He's out of here :P
[06:39] <distantbody> UncleOp22: Remove the RedHat partitions then, and Ubuntu will reasign the empty space into the partitions that it needs
[06:39] <npodges> anyone have any ideas for this: when i try to open synaptic, i get "synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" and it doesnt open
[06:39] <ScreaminIke> jbirk, have you been reading up on thinkgeek shirts?
[06:39] <Don_jr> still nothing but disk buzzing......this is frustrating
[06:39] <Warbo> Great. I decide to give up on the Wifi, and now X doesn't work (it doesn't seem to be the update bug either)
[06:39] <UncleOp22> distantbody: not sure that they are contiguous.
[06:39] <distantbody> UncleOp22:
[06:39] <distantbody> UncleOp22:
[06:39] <arm_> what did i do if suddenly compiz shows pure white desktops?
[06:40] <pitfalls> kid3: never had to do such things - was an idea
[06:40] <UncleOp22> distantbody: care to repeat?  Just saw my name twice.
[06:40] <pitfalls> install the kernel headers
[06:40] <kerwonz> profoX`: doesnt works say the same :(
[06:41] <Jbirk> No, what is there for think geek?
[06:41] <distantbody> UncleOp22: yeah, sorry, my little error, see below
[06:41] <kid3> pitfalls: what?
[06:41] <Warbo> What does it mean when Xorg cannot find "bitmap" and "pcidata"
[06:41] <profoX`> kerwonz: darn.. let me google sata/grub
[06:41] <Don_jr> what is xorg?
[06:41] <kid3> !xorg
[06:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <kerwonz> profoX`: oks
[06:41] <kid3> pitfalls: what the fuck are you talking about?
[06:41] <nich0s> Come on, someone ask something easy, like... what is a gui... :P
[06:42] <distantbody> Remove all the partions that RedHat created
[06:42] <profoX`> nich0s: what is a cli
[06:42] <npodges> nich0s, what is a gui?
[06:42] <Warbo> !cli
[06:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:42] <npodges> nich0s what is the internet
[06:42] <Don_jr> Okay, is there a way to stop the install process where it's at??
[06:42] <ScreaminIke> profox, it's spelled cli_t_
[06:42] <nich0s> npodges,  A Graphical User Interface... NEXT
[06:42] <npodges> xD
[06:42] <npodges> gj!
[06:42] <nich0s> npodges, I hate you... NEXT
[06:42] <Don_jr> like ctrl+alt+del in XP? lol
[06:43] <distantbody> i,m a bit busy for the next two minutes
[06:43] <npodges> Don_jr: the power button?
[06:43] <Don_jr> cli is command line interface....I think
[06:43] <Warbo> Glad I started such a deep debate, but can I get some help with Xorg please? I am feeling very awkward in ircII
[06:43] <nich0s> profoX`, one letter away from being disgusting :P
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> Yes
[06:43] <Elda> Is there a ctrl+alt+del in here? o.O
[06:43] <UncleOp22> distantbody: s'ok.  thanks for the comments.  g'night.
[06:43] <internat> so i have 2 soundcards apparently in my system, its classing the tv card which has a sound output as a device, and the normal one, and for some reason yet another one is showing up as well.. how do i configure it to use the right one?
[06:43] <Elda> Didnt think there was
[06:43] <npodges> warbo what is your problem?
[06:44] <ScreaminIke> elda, ctrl+alt+bkspc will kill x
[06:44] <PyroManiak> anyone know why sometimes linux scrolls fluid using the up/down keys, and sometimes it requires me to hit the key for each advance up/down?
[06:44] <profoX`> nich0s: o_O
[06:44] <npodges> restart x*
[06:44] <nich0s> Elda, from command line, it send term :P
[06:44] <nich0s> profoX`,  rofl :p
[06:44] <pitfalls> kid3: what ubuntu are u using, seems like the kernel is not in the dapper repos
[06:44] <Elda> ah
[06:44] <pitfalls> kid3: what ubuntu are u using, seems like the kernel is not in the dapper repos
[06:44] <pitfalls> ups
[06:45] <Don_jr> okay, is thre an older version of something that might load a bit faster on this slow laptop of mine?? lmao this is a bit retarded, even XP loaded faster than this
[06:45] <ScreaminIke> and i know it will get me flamed, but using automatix, you can make ctrl+alt+del bring up the "task manager"
[06:45] <Warbo> npodges: I can't start X, and the erros given are that it can't find the modules "bitmap" and "pcidata"
[06:45] <PyroManiak> Elda: you can map to ctrl+alt+del for a process window like I did
[06:45] <distantbody> i;m back
[06:45] <Elda> Hmm may try that later
[06:45] <ScreaminIke> beatcha to the punch, pyromaniak :)
[06:45] <Warbo> screaminIke: You mean gnome-system-monitor
[06:46] <ScreaminIke> anyone know anything about running moinmoin?
[06:46] <ScreaminIke> i sure do, warbo
[06:46] <Elda> moin moin? o.o
[06:46] <PyroManiak> ScreaminIke: lol... I did it by hand though.. didn't know automatrix did that.. lol
[06:46] <_relachs> Hi again, after installing ubuntu, i rebooted, grub doesn't have windows included so it automatically boots linux, what now?
[06:46] <npodges> you mean like automatix did
[06:46] <ScreaminIke> notice how the win32 version was in quates
[06:46] <Warbo> !grub
[06:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <distantbody> A GUI (Graphical User Interface) and A CLI(Command Line Interface) are to was of doing the same thing: interacting with the computer
[06:47] <Warbo> I'd like some more eyecandy for my CLI though
[06:47] <ScreaminIke> one is built for speed, the otherone looks pretty
[06:47] <_relachs> wait, do i have to press ESC to choose to boot windows?
[06:47] <profoX`> kerwonz: 1 tip though, if you want to test without rebooting all the time, you can type the letter C and then you get a command line interface where you can type like:
[06:47] <distantbody> Technically they are both called "shells"
[06:48] <profoX`> root (hd0,4)
[06:48] <Don_jr> if you need a compiler to recognize a programming language and make it work, then how do you make the compiler?
[06:48] <ScreaminIke> warbo, install the old hoary caledar packages and make yrou console transparent
[06:48] <ScreaminIke> eye candy, indeed
[06:48] <profoX`> etc.... and then end with: boot
[06:48] <Warbo> don_jr: Same way you "boot" a computer
[06:48] <kerwonz> profoX`: ohh thanks
[06:48] <kerwonz> profoX`:
[06:48] <kerwonz> grub> root (hd0,4)
[06:48] <kerwonz>  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[06:49] <kerwonz> :o
[06:49] <kerwonz> works with rootnoverify
[06:49] <darksoul_> How do i detect my FPS in a game like starcraft?
[06:49] <profoX`> kerwonz: did you install windows on that partition or move it thee?
[06:49] <profoX`> there
[06:49] <Don_jr> should the live CD recognize my wireless card the same as if I outright installed it?
[06:49] <profoX`> on /dev/hda5
[06:49] <ScreaminIke> lol
[06:49] <w30> Warbo, try this for eyecandy an the cli     echo -e "\33] P0006600\33] P7FF9900"
[06:49] <kerwonz> its /dev/sda5
[06:49] <profoX`> kerwonz: does it work now?
[06:49] <Warbo> don_jr: The "boot" (sometimes called "boostrapping") means "pulling oneself up by the bootstraps", and basically means using a chain of ever-more complicated methods to get into something useful
[06:49] <ScreaminIke> r u playing starcraft in 'buntu?
[06:49] <kerwonz> look
[06:49] <kerwonz> grub> rootnoverify (hd0,4)
[06:49] <kerwonz> grub>
[06:49] <darksoul_> yes
[06:49] <ScreaminIke> how?!
[06:49] <profoX`> kerwonz: ok.. and then..
[06:49] <darksoul_> ..wine
[06:50] <w30> Warbo, echo -e "\33] R" to change it back
[06:50] <ScreaminIke> i would DESTROY my win32 drive if i had that game running in buntu
[06:50] <ScreaminIke> wine confuses me
[06:50] <npodges> what game?
[06:50] <ScreaminIke> never got the hang of it
[06:50] <profoX`> kerwonz: makeactive
[06:50] <profoX`> kerwonz: chainloader +1
[06:50] <darksoul_> wine is easy as hell
[06:50] <kerwonz> makeactive doesnt works :P
[06:50] <profoX`> kerwonz: ._.
[06:50] <profoX`> kerwonz: what does it say
[06:50] <darksoul_> its only when you get to the games that DONT want to run its a pain
[06:50] <npodges> what game did you want, ScreaminIke
[06:50] <ScreaminIke> my copy is... of questionable legality....
[06:50] <kerwonz> only title, rootnoverify, savedefault and chainloader +1
[06:50] <Sarra_> If I load the PowerNow software in Ubuntu on an Opteron, will it still work? Or is there a seperate module for the Cool 'n Quiet feature built into my motherboard?
[06:50] <ScreaminIke> starcraft
[06:50] <Warbo> w30: I don't want to break my terminal since I haven't got any graphics (besides, your text has now gone off screen)
[06:50] <Don_jr> should the live CD OS recognize my wireless card the same as if I had ubuntu outright installed?
[06:50] <distantbody> Don_jr: There are many different wireless cards, the most popular ones are supported
[06:50] <w30> Warbo, try this for eyecandy an the cli     echo -e "\33] P0006600\33] P7FF9900"
[06:50] <w30> Warbo, echo -e "\33] R" to change it back
[06:51] <npodges> i have warcraft 3 working, never tried starcraft
[06:51] <kerwonz> grub> makeactive
[06:51] <kerwonz> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[06:51] <w30> Warbo, just colors
[06:51] <ScreaminIke> ever? even in win32?
[06:51] <Don_jr> I've been told that the one I bought today is supported, will the live CD version recognize it
[06:51] <darksoul_> npodges, how would i detect my FPS then
[06:51] <Warbo> I can't be bothered to type that out. What is that program which gives the consoles a mouse "pointer"
[06:51] <Warbo> ?
[06:51] <Gumby> anyone know how to stop this...  I'd like to unmount a partition but it keeps saying that the device is busy.  lsof |grep mount_point tells me that "hald-addo  4699  haldaemon  mem       REG        3,1   10576     525102 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage" is using the mount point/device.  anyone know a way around this?
[06:51] <jpjacobs> npodges, i tried starcraft but didn't get sound
[06:51] <distantbody> Don_jr: Who told you that?
[06:51] <Don_jr> a couple people in here earlier did
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: gpm
[06:51] <profoX`> kerwonz: where are you doing these things?
[06:51] <profoX`> jpjacobs: goeiemorgen
[06:51] <darksoul_> jpjacobs, did you type winecfg and changed how sound ran?
[06:51] <w30> Warbo, gpm but you have to reboot after synaptic installs it
[06:52] <Don_jr> I got a netgear WB511 today, was told that this model would be recognized
[06:52] <kerwonz> profoX`: # sudo grub
[06:52] <Don_jr> WG511, not WB
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> w30: Reboot?  Shouldn't a new login be sufficient?
[06:52] <npodges> darksoul_: i dont understand your question
[06:52] <profoX`> kerwonz: yea but you're supposed to do it on the machine you're trying to booy
[06:52] <profoX`> kerwonz: when you type C
[06:52] <profoX`> you get the command line
[06:52] <jpjacobs> darksoul_, well, no, not really... it was just a try...
[06:52] <profoX`> booy=boot
[06:52] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well if you do some googleing you will be able to find a list of every wireless chip that is/isn't supported
[06:52] <darksoul_> npodges, you said your sound didint run on wine, when you type winecfg in console there is a sound section with diffrent options..
[06:52] <npodges> ubuntu has it in the wiki.
[06:52] <jpjacobs> G'morgen profox...
[06:53] <npodges> darksoul, that wasnt me xD
[06:53] <Warbo> Yeah! I have a mouse pointer! Now for the rest...
[06:53] <npodges> you're thinking of ScreaminIke
[06:53] <Don_jr> I'll just plug it in and find out....lol
[06:53] <w30> tonyyarusso, no a log in won't work some expert could do it without a reboot but not me
[06:53] <profoX`> jpjacobs: put the sound on alsa - full hw acceleration // if that doesnt work, try full EMULATION (last option) // that worked for me
[06:53] <darksoul_> eh
[06:53] <distantbody> Don_jr:...But if you have ethernet, it's waaa easier
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> w30: Ah
[06:53] <darksoul_> npodges, well do you know how to figure out my FPS on starcarft.. i would figure its the same as WC3..
[06:53] <Don_jr> I don't
[06:53] <kerwonz> profoX`, where i need to type C? in grub> ?
[06:54] <npodges> i've never bothered to check fps..
[06:54] <ScreaminIke> wc3 is a totally different engine from SC
[06:54] <npodges> i just play
[06:54] <_relachs> ok, i still dont know how to include windows into grub
[06:54] <Don_jr> there's nothing hard-wired in my house anymore.  And the laptop doesn't even have a lan plug
[06:54] <profoX`> kerwonz: when you reboot the pc and you have grub in front of you
[06:54] <npodges> wine is kinda annoying for one reason
[06:54] <kerwonz> ohh oks
[06:54] <ScreaminIke> wc3 is full 3d. starcraft doesn't even fake it
[06:54] <kerwonz> profoX`: let me see i go to reboot
[06:54] <darksoul_> npodges, every time i tried WC3 my menu basicly froze.. almost.. hardly ran.. i hope it will this time around..
[06:54] <npodges> when you play windowed games, and you have the cursor outside the winow
[06:54] <distantbody> Don_jr:Does you wireless router/modem have an ethernet port?
[06:54] <npodges> you cant type in that window
[06:54] <profoX`> kerwonz: you don't have 2 pc's? thats annoying :p
[06:54] <Warbo> _relachs: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" there is an example given to you in there, so just tweak it and move it to the bottom
[06:54] <Don_jr> I could hardwire this computer and install here, but if it screwed up my windows some how I"d be extremely annoyed at not being able to get online
[06:54] <kerwonz> noo
[06:54] <kerwonz> i dont have two
[06:55] <kerwonz> hehe
[06:55] <Don_jr> Yes the router does, but the laptop does not
[06:55] <kerwonz> profoX`: let me try
[06:55] <npodges> and if you play fullscreen, it resizes your whole screen, and you can scroll away
[06:55] <kerwonz> jeje
[06:55] <npodges> when i play warcraft in wine fullscreen, it doesnt take keyboard input
[06:55] <darksoul_> Its true starcraft doesn't even fake 3d..but it was running so horribly one time i installed ubuntu it wasn't funny lol
[06:55] <ScreaminIke> that's bs
[06:55] <npodges> when i asked about it in the wine irc channel, they said it's one of th eoldest bugs with wine
[06:55] <npodges> and there's no solution
[06:55] <distantbody> Don_jr: Does the router have a USB connection...?
[06:55] <Don_jr> I'm also worrid that ubuntu doens't support my graphics card
[06:55] <npodges> Don_jr: what card
[06:56] <ScreaminIke> lol
[06:56] <ScreaminIke> what about cedega?
[06:56] <darksoul_> Don_jr, its not ubuntu that wont support it, its the drivers.
[06:56] <Don_jr> no only eithernet
[06:56] <ScreaminIke> what' with all their D3D...
[06:56] <npodges> Don_jr: what gfx card?
[06:56] <ajay> hello channel
[06:56] <ajay> i was just considering to buy a laptop.
[06:56] <npodges> yeah?
[06:56] <Don_jr> it's nvidia chipset.  geforce mx4000 is the card
[06:56] <darksoul_> ScreaminIke, Cedega is good on some things, but i found that it lagged my computer badly.. on a game that shouldnt even lag.. at all
[06:56] <npodges> Don_jr: it's supported.
[06:57] <profoX`> wine works better for the games i play (sof2 - 2002 game)
[06:57] <npodges> you might want to get the restricted drivers though
[06:57] <ajay> and am trying to chose between amd turion and centrion based ones
[06:57] <distantbody> Don_jr: OK, so ethernet isn't an option, but your vid card will have drovers for it no sweat
[06:57] <Warbo> don_jr: You will have to installa a non-Free driver for that. There are no accelerated 3D drivers for nvidia cards which are Free
[06:57] <npodges> ajay: intel core duo
[06:57] <distantbody> Don_jr: *drivers*
[06:57] <profoX`> ajay: both processors work fine on linux if thats what you're asking
[06:57] <eck_> does anyone know what is needed to get aiff audio to play?
[06:57] <ajay> profoX`, thats right
[06:57] <Warbo> eck_: Gstreamer plugins probably. Get them all and have a go
[06:58] <Don_jr> so, I should be able to dual boot this computer, it will autodetect my ethernet card and connect to my router so I can get online and the vid card isn't a problem and it won't screw up my XP???(if I try on this computer since laptop is a retard)
[06:58] <ajay> am a ubuntu user need to know if it works fine on either of them
[06:58] <ajay> npodges, any specific reason?
[06:58] <npodges> ajay: that shouldnt be your deciding factor
[06:58] <distantbody> Warbo: I think you need to clarify your meaning of free, the drivers are free as in beer.
[06:58] <npodges> ajay: no, not really, i just prefer the cpu
[06:58] <npodges> ajay: i woul decide more on the video card than the cpu though
[06:58] <npodges> ajay: nvidia only will make you happier
[06:59] <Bonez56_> i have a / partition that is 11gb, but i don't need it to be that large. what is the easiest way to resize it? it's ext3.
[06:59] <ajay> Hmm.. then the amd turion based lappy gives me nvidia video adapter
[06:59] <npodges> Bonez5656_ gparted
[06:59] <Don_jr> seriously, if I plug in this computer to my router, will ubuntu recognize it all and make it work for me so I can get back online?
[06:59] <Warbo> I want to get a laptop with the same card as I have in my desktop, Radeon 9200 (obviously will need to be a Mobility or something). That would be great
[06:59] <Bonez56_> npodges: yes but it can't unmount / because device is busy
[06:59] <distantbody> Don_jr: Yes, it will do all of that
[06:59] <Don_jr> okay, I'll give it a shot
[07:00] <npodges> bonez56_ download the livecd version from gparted.sourceforge.net
[07:00] <npodges> burn it, and boot into it
[07:00] <ajay> but the centrino has a a 945 chipset based motherbord and card (within my budget that is)
[07:00] <NoCLI> Can't find any info on the forums about my nforce 4 based motherboard working with ubuntu. anyone have a Gigabyte GA-K8NMF-9 up and running with no problems?
[07:00] <npodges> it's ~30mb
[07:00] <Bonez56_> npodges: i have that live cd but it wont work with my PC for some reason
[07:00] <distantbody> Don_jr: Clarify "this" computer, laptop or your windows machine?
[07:00] <darksoul_> So no one here knows how to detect FPS when running a game on wine?
[07:00] <_relachs> Warbo: yea, i have already opened the file and there is an example for windows 95/98/NT/2000 <- title. But how do i know the numbers "root (hd0,0)" i think thats the line i have to edit
[07:00] <npodges> bonez56_ use the ubuntu install partitioner as if going to install?
[07:01] <Bonez56_> k thx
[07:01] <npodges> np
[07:01] <ajay> npodges, turion 64bit+nvidia geforce is a nice deal then??
[07:01] <Don_jr> my windows machine "this compure" the one I"m on currently
[07:01] <distantbody> _relachs: Do you know how to open a command line? I'll give you the command if you do.
[07:01] <Warbo> _relachs: basically hd0 is the first hard drive, hd1 is the second, etc. the second number is the partition, where the first is 0, the second is 1, etc. Just tell it where Windows is installed
[07:01] <ajay> against centrino+945 chipset
[07:01] <npodges> ajay, that'll work fine
[07:01] <npodges> what nvidia card?
[07:01] <Don_jr> My desktop that I am on right now runs XP.  I don't want XP to get screwed up
[07:02] <Don_jr> my card is a geforce MX4000
[07:02] <PyroManiak> anyone know why sometimes linux scrolls fluid using the up/down keys, and sometimes it requires me to hit the key for each advance up/down?
[07:02] <ajay> npodges, nvidia geforce go 6150
[07:02] <distantbody> Don_jr: It won't muck with Xp
[07:02] <npodges> okay
[07:02] <chuckles> xgl/compiz problem: got the setup working, excited, then 5 minutes in it crashes for no reason, get booted back to login, xgl now broken and no window borders? what happened? oh yeah, ati + gnome + dapper
[07:02] <_relachs> Warbo: Ah oke, thank you, i think its located at 0,1 then, what means chainloader?
[07:02] <Warbo> Is there any way of using radeon driver in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:03] <mhonn> halo..
[07:03] <npodges> ajay, really any cpu works fine in linux, so it's up to you there, and truthfully.... ATI cards work fine in linux too... but nvidia tend to get better supoort
[07:03] <Warbo> _relachs: chainloader means that GRUB gives up control to another bootloader, in this case the WIndows one
[07:03] <Don_jr> okay, if what you say is true, then I should be back here and online in about 20 or 30 m ins running ubuntu
[07:03] <mhonn> ufter install my xmms i can run the xmms?
[07:03] <npodges> warbo, just reconfigure, and when it asks for driver... fglrx should show up there
[07:03] <npodges> if you already have it installed
[07:03] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well... is it a fast computer?
[07:04] <Don_jr> it's alot faster than my laptop
[07:04] <Warbo> npoges: I hope not, because I haven't got that installed. I use radeon driver
[07:04] <ajay> npodges, cool. thanks a ton.
[07:04] <distantbody> Don_jr: How fast?
[07:04] <npodges> ajay, np
[07:04] <Don_jr> it may take longer, fine, as long as windows isn't blown away and I can shut off the install and get back to xp if it's too slow
[07:04] <_relachs> Warbo: Thanks! In a few minutes we will see if you were right :P
[07:04] <Don_jr> it's a P3 800mghz with 512 mb ram
[07:05] <distantbody> Don_jr: OK, *faster*;)
[07:05] <Don_jr> say an hour to install
[07:05] <npodges> warbo: then no, you'll have to install the driver seperately as per one of the how tos on the forum
[07:05] <npodges> don_jr less than that
[07:05] <Don_jr> I've got it hardwired, ethernet, to the router and rebooting, wish me luck
[07:05] <chuckles> xgl/compiz problem: setup booted, wooed by effects, crashed after 5 min?, booted back to login, xgl now broken and no windows borders... oh yeah, ati + gnome + dapper
[07:05] <distantbody> Don_jr:Wait!
[07:05] <Don_jr> sup?
[07:05] <npodges> chuckles, are you kevin_
[07:05] <Warbo> npodges: Well it is installed by default, but I was just wondering if there was any way of switching my resolutions without having to edit xorg.conf after. Oh well
[07:06] <chuckles> npodges: yeah
[07:06] <distantbody> Don_jr:I'll give you instructions...
[07:06] <Don_jr> okay
[07:06] <Don_jr> they'll be appriciated
[07:06] <nalpha> guys why i can't access my cd-rom my windows tell windows doesn't not recognize the file system (windows xp) after i plug in my USB (that before is from Linux Ubuntu) there's virus???
[07:06] <xnull-> http://pastebin.ca/147176 any ideea ?
[07:06] <arm> i installed the kernel to make use of my dual core. what steps should i take (packages to reinstall) to make sure gnome and compiz takes it nicely?
[07:06] <ajcates_> maugic
[07:06] <kerwonz> profoX`: doesnt works :( if i wanna put windows like the mbr what can i do and tomorrow config it... so my brother need windows tomorrow jeje?
[07:06] <npodges> chuckles: is your xgl session still running, but compiz isnt launching?
[07:06] <npodges> or is xgl actually not running
[07:07] <chuckles> npodges, i can login into 'xgl' but no effects work and its kinda slow, so-- yeah i guess what you said
[07:07] <distantbody> Don_jr: Did you receive the private message?
[07:07] <Don_jr> will 10 gig of space be enough?
[07:07] <Don_jr> no I didn't
[07:07] <npodges> don_jr, yeah
[07:07] <codehtmai_lappy> alright. i'm having a problem that i've had for months. I feel like i've tried everything. plain and simple: i can't boot ubuntu (or any linux) bc i cant install a boot loader
[07:07] <Don_jr> thanx
[07:07] <codehtmai_lappy> any help would be MUCH appreciated
[07:08] <profoX`> kerwonz: insert the windows cd / choose recovery console / type: fixmbr / then type: fixboot / then restart pc..
[07:08] <npodges> chuckles: friend had almost that exact problem... working now, trying to tihnk what he did.
[07:08] <npodges> what gfx car specifically?
[07:08] <chuckles> npodges, me? radeon 9200
[07:08] <distantbody> Don_jr: You know how to boot from disc...correct?
[07:08] <profoX`> kerwonz: maybe your boot.init needs to be changed.. when you're back in windows, contact me on this channel when i'm here
[07:08] <Warbo> bah, I ruined xorg.conf for no reason. X is still broken, so I'll just replace it with the backup
[07:08] <Don_jr> yeah, restart the computer with the disk in
[07:08] <npodges> what errors do you ge twhen you try to start compiz?
[07:08] <kerwonz> profoX`: hey and lilo maybe works?
[07:09] <distantbody> Don_jr: Do you know how to enable "boot from disk" in the bios?
[07:09] <Cosmo-san> quick moron question:  I mapped a drive in truecrypt, what is the command so I can open it?  When I use mount I get the error  "can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab.  I'm guessing it's a simple answer~
[07:09] <ajcates_> A
[07:09] <Don_jr> it already is, had to make sure of that to install XP from a formated blank HD
[07:09] <rpedro> anyone know a reliable howto to install XGL on an ATI card ?
[07:09] <rast4> hey guys, I'm having a hell of a time watching XviD movies on ubuntu. I've downloaded a codec, xine player and all it's plugins and I can't view movies still and on the ones that do play, there is no sound
[07:10] <chuckles> npodges, i dont get any, it just doesnt load i guess-- 'xgl' boots up to a gnome-ish screen, but theirs no effects and no window borders, is there something i should be looking for?
[07:10] <shaigirl67> hi ya'll
[07:10] <Don_jr> and it should give me the option durring install to leave windows alone and only use the empty space
[07:10] <nich0s> hey ther
[07:10] <distantbody> Don_jr: OK. You probably don't really need instructions then, because its pretty automagical.
[07:10] <Don_jr> Okay, wish me luck, I'll be back soon if all goes well
[07:10] <Samuli^> rast4, download easyubuntu and take all the codecs with that script.
[07:10] <npodges> well, you're probably starting compiz as part of your session. stop that, then when you boot up, you should have to run the command manually to start compiz
[07:11] <distantbody> Don_jr: Wish luck:)
[07:11] <ubuntu> can you run flash in lynx if you can how do you install and configure flash in lynx
[07:11] <npodges> not sure what command you use, may be different than mine, but whatever you have in your sessions
[07:11] <rast4> Samuli: ty
[07:11] <Warbo> Can ANYONE tell me why Xorg says modules "bitmap" and "pcidata" cannot be found? All of the packages are installed, the problem started with a version prior to the famous Xorg bug, and since I have upgraded everything in a vain attempt to fix it :(
[07:11] <rast4> might as well try
[07:11] <npodges> then, try to run it, and see what errrors you get
[07:11] <profoX`> kerwonz: maybe.. but i have no experience with lilo
[07:11] <Samuli^> rast4, what player are you using?
[07:12] <chuckles> npodges, k just a sec
[07:12] <chuckles> brb
[07:13] <kerwonz> profoX`: oks :/
[07:13] <Flannel> cjones: I imagine you can't
[07:13] <Kragnerac> Hello, when I run Compiz, the Window borders are gone, and I can't move them. I've been trying to look for a solution on Google, but to no avail. Anybody know how to fix this problem?
[07:14] <Flannel> Kragnerac: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL/compiz questions
[07:14] <Warbo> Kragnerac: Try running "compiz --replace"
[07:14] <profoX`> Kragnerac: recent changes deleted cgwd / shouldn't have happened
[07:14] <profoX`> Kragnerac: sudo apt-get install cgwd cgwd-themes
[07:14] <profoX`> Kragnerac: and try running compiz again
[07:14] <Jbirk> Hello
[07:14] <Kragnerac> Ok.
[07:14] <cjones> can you run micromedia flash player in lynx or links
[07:14] <profoX`> cjones: whats the point :P
[07:14] <Jbirk> cjones: no becuase it isn't graphical
[07:14] <Warbo> cjones: Adobe have not offered a plugin
[07:15] <Jbirk> You need a GUI based browser for flash
[07:15] <Jbirk> Luckily, it works great with Ubuntu Drapper/Firefox
[07:15] <profoX`> flash in lynx.. could be nice.. in ascii
[07:15] <Warbo> A browser isn't necissary, just X
[07:15] <blackmad> So I installed XP on 16gig partition on a 40gig drive, then I rebooted, installed ubuntu, and did all that
[07:15] <cjones> is ther a way to get streeming audio from a command prompt without a gui ?
[07:15] <Jbirk> I have a vnc problem
[07:16] <Jbirk> Each time I connect to my ubuntu box from another computer, I get errors
[07:16] <Jbirk> and I get disconnected a lot
[07:16] <Jbirk> REct to big
[07:16] <blackmad> now when I try to boot XP, it freaks out about unmountable boot volume, and when I look at the partition table in the windows installer ... it doesn't see any paritions
[07:16] <Warbo> cjones: VLC is good at streaming, and I know it has a telnet interface and ASCII output. Maybe that is the most comprehensive
[07:16] <profoX`> Warbo: come to think of it, can't mplayer play flash7 with some codec? and then pull that through -vo aa, and make a lynx plugin :/
[07:16] <rpedro> can anyone recommend a reliable howto to install XGL on an ATI card?
[07:16] <Kragnerac> profoX: Still doesn't work.
[07:16] <profoX`> Kragnerac: what do you get when you type this in the terminal:
[07:16] <Warbo> MPlayer can play Flash videos, but I don't think it can play Flash animations/games
[07:17] <HellDragon> night
[07:17] <medicineman> help! dpkg seems to be broken!
[07:17] <profoX`> Kragnerac: compiz --replace & cgwd --replace &
[07:17] <cjones> warbo ok do i need to add a reposatory to apt-get it?
[07:17] <profoX`> Kragnerac: compiz --replace gconf & cgwd --replace &
[07:17] <Warbo> !info vlc
[07:17] <profoX`> I mean that
[07:17] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[07:17] <mhonn> how to compile a my source??
[07:17] <cjones> warbo thank you
[07:17] <Warbo> cjones: What I said is pure speculation, so I would have no idea how to do it :)
[07:18] <chuckles> npodges, started xgl session, started compiz, first got some error about gnome decorator, then tried to start compiz again and it sprung to life, wtf?
[07:18] <Kragnerac> profox: "compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0"
[07:18] <Kragnerac> profox: "compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0"
[07:18] <Kragnerac> profox: "compiz.real: No manageable screens found on display :0.0"
[07:19] <ireverentReveren> how can i install off the install cd and not use that silly gui? what ever partitioner it is using is broken and i would like to try something different
[07:19] <chuckles> woohoo, compiz is fun
[07:19] <cjones> warbo i understand i am just trying to be abel to get to the point i can uninstall the gui
[07:19] <Warbo> ireverentReveren: You could use the alternate CD, or from the CD you have you could install debootstrap
[07:19] <Kragnerac> profox: The program 'cgwd' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.  (Details: serial 656 error_code 8 request_code 152 minor_code 8) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to cha
[07:19] <Kragnerac> nge this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[07:19] <Warbo> cjones: Can you give it to me? Mine is broken :)
[07:20] <villa> alguien que hable espaol?
[07:20] <Warbo> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <cjones> warbo whats broken ?
[07:20] <Warbo> cjones: My graphics
[07:20] <profoX`> Kragnerac: that doesn't sound good..
[07:20] <ireverentReveren> warbo how do i use debootstrap?
[07:20] <profoX`> Kragnerac: do they have updates?
[07:20] <profoX`> Kragnerac: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:21] <chuckles> npodges_away, i guess your away now but, i started xgl -- tried to fire up compiz from the terminal and it rambled something about gnome-decorator so i fired the command again and compiz sprung to life, woohoo... how do i remove this gnome decorator thing from this session?
[07:21] <Kragnerac> profoX: My packages are all up to date.
[07:21] <cjones> warbo i just found out today you dont need them just lynx for web and bitchx for irc
[07:21] <cjones> warbo :)
[07:21] <HanzZ> !w32codecs
[07:21] <Warbo> cjones: Well, I can't get my head around bitchx so I am using ircII
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <profoX`> Kragnerac: maybe you get more support in #xgl
[07:22] <cjones> warbo lol
[07:22] <Kragnerac> profoX: Yeah. I'll try there.
[07:22] <profoX`> k
[07:22] <Warbo> cjones: If you can tell me where to get some good text-based image manipulation, 3D modelling and vector drawing and animation software then I am all for using text mode
[07:23] <cjones> i was just reading a piece in that in linux jernal about 2 months ago
[07:23] <Samuli^> what's so great about text-mode?
[07:23] <cjones> image magic
[07:23] <Flannel> Warbo: I'm surprised there isn't a ncurses based one
[07:23] <Warbo> imagemagick is not really what I am after. I was thinking more of GIMP
[07:24] <Warbo> GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, Moho. Obviously I need to fix my graphics :)
[07:24] <profoX`> Flannel: for 3D modelling ? :p right
[07:24] <profoX`> Warbo: you use Moho ?
[07:24] <cjones> gimp in term would be so tight you could script it :)
[07:24] <Flannel> profoX`: Why not?  It'd be fairly easy
[07:24] <profoX`> Warbo: 2D animator ?
[07:24] <Warbo> profoX`: Yes
[07:24] <profoX`> Flannel: explain :)
[07:24] <profoX`> Flannel: how can I do 3D modelling in textmode
[07:25] <Flannel> profoX`: sure, you'd be limited to ASCII art resolution, but large shapes would be distinguisable, It'd be the same as watching a movie in ASCII, which is doable
[07:25] <Warbo> I get what Flannel means about ncurses. Not that it would be easy, or sensible, just the fact that there isn't one is suprising :)
[07:25] <profoX`> Flannel: not for high-res projects :P
[07:25] <ireverentReveren> what partition manager does ubiquity use? and how can i make it use a different one?
[07:25] <cjones> ive seen deepthrot in ascii
[07:25] <Warbo> GParted
[07:25] <Flannel> profoX`: no, like I said, you'd be limited to the resolution of ascii, but really, ascii isn't so bad.  Have you watched movies in your console before?
[07:25] <JoseStefan> i've seen star wars in ascii
[07:25] <profoX`> Flannel: yes
[07:25] <profoX`> Flannel: aa / caca
[07:26] <Flannel> profoX`: then you'd know that it can do a pretty good job of it
[07:26] <Warbo> apt-get install bb
[07:26] <profoX`> Flannel: when you look at it from a distance ._.
[07:26] <Flannel> profoX`: normal screen distance
[07:26] <cjones> can you watch xvid in console?
[07:26] <profoX`> cjones: yes
[07:26] <chuckles> compiz problem: compiz wont start with session but will run from terminal after two tries, on try and i get something about gnome-decorator, second try it springs to life? help???
[07:26] <Flannel> cjones: sure.  use libcaca as your output
[07:26] <npodges_away> chuckles: i was afk, everything's working now?
[07:26] <cjones> profox sweet!
[07:26] <profoX`> Flannel: even better - in the virtual console - on the framebuffer
[07:26] <profoX`> no need for ugly text mode :p
[07:26] <Warbo> I know mplayer can be run from CLI, and it probably offers text output
[07:27] <chuckles> npodges_away, i guess, it loaded from terminal after second try... first try i got something about gnome decorator, but the second time it worked
[07:27] <profoX`> Warbo: yes -vo aa / -vo caca
[07:27] <npodges_away> chuckles: what version of compiz are you using. sometimes, you just have to run it up to three or four times
[07:27] <npodges_away> until ti works
[07:27] <profoX`> if it's compiled in
[07:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> does amaroK play .mp3?
[07:27] <chuckles> hmmm, im not sure, how do i check?
[07:27] <Warbo> Well I can't say that I have bothered to tell the truth :)
[07:27] <profoX`> Warbo: and -vo cvidix and/or fb stuff to run directly on framebuffer
[07:27] <knapper> can someone help me get vnc working, point me to some guides or something?
[07:27] <Flannel> !tell ISOLATEDViRuS about mp3
[07:27] <profoX`> ISOLATEDViRuS: yes, if you installed libxine-extracodecs
[07:27] <npodges_away> chuckles: where did you install form?
[07:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> where can i find libxine-extracodecs?
[07:28] <npodges_away> source, ubuntu repos, or quinn's repos?
[07:28] <chuckles> repositories, ummm... lemme find the tut url
[07:28] <Flannel> ISOLATEDViRuS: read the link ubotu sent you, it gives you all the details
[07:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, thanks
[07:28] <Samuli^> ISOLATEDViRuS, easiest way is to download easyubuntu script and have it install all the codecs for you.
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <chuckles> npodges_away, the sites down but the bookmark is for a TAZ forum?
[07:29] <Warbo> OK, I am going to try completely purging the whole of X and reinstalling. MAYBE that will help
[07:29] <chuckles> i remember a beerorkid directory, and something about quinn packages
[07:29] <npodges_away> chuckles: did you have to add the repo, or did it come installed?
[07:29] <npodges_away> okay
[07:29] <npodges_away> hmm
[07:29] <chuckles> npodges_away, it was added... is there anyway to automate the startup for the session?
[07:29] <npodges_away> i have an idea
[07:30] <ireverentReveren> how do oyu start the text mode installer?
[07:30] <chuckles> itd get kinda old having to manually start it each time
[07:30] <npodges_away> yeah there is
[07:30] <npodges_away> i'll email you a file, if you give me your email
[07:30] <npodges_away> it's a startup script someone wrote at compiz.net
[07:30] <chuckles> ok... kevinf89@gmail.com
[07:31] <SlaSheR84> hi i just installed ubuntu 6.06 server LAMP instaand i cant get root access, whats the root password set to by default?
[07:32] <JoseStefan> !root
[07:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:32] <SlaSheR84> cheers
[07:32] <Don_jr> didn't work
[07:32] <Don_jr> it hangs up when it tries to start the GUI, right after it loads the drivers and what not.
[07:32] <ireverentReveren> i would like to install ubuntu, but the cd that I have downloaded only appears to have a graphical installer, and that installer is broken... how can i install in textmode or with a diferent partitioner?
[07:33] <Warbo> Well that didn't fix it
[07:33] <IcemanV9> ireverentReveren: alternative cd
[07:33] <natural20> so i can't access yahoo mail with any of my browsers. i can get to my inbox, but the emails won't open.  any suggestions? (Opera, FF, Epihany - Breezy)
[07:34] <ireverentReveren> seriously?
[07:34] <ireverentReveren> i have to download a second 700 meg image
[07:34] <ireverentReveren> Nice
[07:34] <Warbo> natural20: I use ftechyahoo to let me use Evolution
[07:34] <IcemanV9> ireverentReveren: it is clearly explained on its download page
[07:34] <Warbo> *fetchyahoo
[07:35] <Don_jr> distantbody you still here?
[07:35] <natural20> Warbo, no idea what ftechyahoo or evolution is
[07:35] <Warbo> ireverentReveren: You can use debootstrap if you want
[07:35] <medicineman> can someone please help a semi-noob repair dpkg?
[07:35] <ireverentReveren> IcemanV9 i am sorry, i neglected to see where it said that the GUI installer is broken and cant read a partition table
[07:35] <Warbo> !info fetchyahoo
[07:35] <ubotu> fetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.0-1 (dapper), package size 37 kB, installed size 176 kB
[07:35] <Warbo> !info evolution
[07:35] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[07:35] <natural20> are thosea available for breezy? they both say dapper
[07:35] <Warbo> Wow, Evoltion's description is great. It is an email program
[07:35] <varsendaggr> ak why when using gstreamer to encode mp3's are my mp3's 78 mb?
[07:36] <ireverentReveren> is there no netinstall disk?
[07:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there a way for me to get compatibility for .m4a files?
[07:36] <distantbody> here
[07:36] <Warbo> natural20: Evolution certainly is, but I found that Dapper's fetchyahoo stopped working recently, but the latest version from fetchyahoo.sourceforge.net works
[07:36] <Don_jr> Any ideas on why the ubuntu setup hangs right after it loads the drivers and what not?  when loading hardware drivers I got this error "17179782.032000, hw_randon:rng not detected.
[07:37] <Warbo> I think I am just going to reinstall Ubuntu
[07:37] <IcemanV9> fetchyahoo? will it work with FREE yahoo email or Paid one?
[07:37] <Warbo> again
[07:37] <Warbo> IcemanV9: Free one. It only works with the old-style interface though, since it parses the pages to get the emails
[07:37] <distantbody> Don_jr: that's very annoying, what esle happened?
[07:38] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is there a way for me to get .m4a files to work for amarok?
[07:38] <Don_jr> distantbody it went on and loaded everything else, loaded GNOME GUI then went to a black screen with a NON blinking cursor and stopped there
[07:38] <Warbo> OK, I'm going to reinstall :(
[07:39] <nich0s_> It's like I'm logged in at two different locations. :P
[07:39] <nich0s_> but too lazy to go over to the other system and disconnet it :P
[07:40] <Don_jr> I've completed installing win98 back on my laptop and installing the drivers for the wireless card now so I can get online with it and work wiht you all here to get it running on this computer instead...if I can
[07:40] <distantbody> Don_jr:
[07:40] <Don_jr> yep
[07:41] <wall0159> can some one give me a hand with X11? It's worked fine, but yesterday it suddenly stopped working... confused.
[07:41] <distantbody> Don_jr: Umm so you say the ubuntu logo?
[07:41] <JoseStefan> !xorgbug > wall0159
[07:41] <distantbody> *saw*
[07:41] <Don_jr> before that
[07:41] <urmom> how do i install flash in ubuntu ppc?
[07:42] <Don_jr> the screen just before that one if I remember right from the laptop
[07:42] <woodwizzle> Has anyone here ever bought a music CD that came with a video on it that you could watch on your PC? Is it possible to make one of those?
[07:42] <wall0159> JoseStefan: sorry - I don't understand you
[07:42] <Don_jr> it goes black right before the ubuntu logo shows up as it's loading the windows and what not
[07:42] <JoseStefan> check the msg ubotu send you
[07:42] <distantbody> did it say anything about loading the kernel?
[07:42] <Don_jr> yes
[07:42] <robert_> blah
[07:42] <Don_jr> it loaded the kernel fine from what it said
[07:43] <robert_> how do I install my development headers? :/
[07:43] <Don_jr> it flashes something very quickly on the screen right before it goes black, but does it so fast I can't read it
[07:43] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i use the sudo apt-get install command with multiple packages to install?
[07:43] <kid3> how can i get my 'wlan0' to work
[07:43] <kid3> ?
[07:43] <wall0159> JoseStefan: it told me that there was a problem with glXLastContext, and failed because of that. Then I ran dexconf, and that's totally stuffed my xorg.conf file - put all this crap about styluses in there...
[07:44] <ISOLATEDViRuS> would it be: sudo apt-get install <package>&<package>&<package>  ?
[07:44] <wall0159> now I just get a No Screens Found error. It looks like it's removed all DRM from X for me...
[07:44] <hasan> which application do I need to send/receive faxes ?
[07:44] <distantbody> Don_jr:I can't remember if i.ve ever had that problem before...
[07:44] <wall0159> I did run the updater (synaptic) the night before, and updated a package - but I can't remember what it was, and don't know how to check or roll back the update..
[07:44] <Don_jr> I have the disks for sun os aswell, they hung up too...could be something with the hardware
[07:44] <JoseStefan> wall0159, there was a bug in with X, you need to get the latest update just to make sure you dont have the bug
[07:45] <Don_jr> is there a place I can look up the error codes and see what they mean?
[07:45] <JoseStefan> !xorgbugfix
[07:45] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[07:45] <wall0159> I've tried running >>sudo apt-get update from the command line, but that doesn't give me any updates...
[07:45] <distantbody> Don_jr: RNG = random number generator
[07:45] <JoseStefan> wall0159, run this next: sudo apt-get upgrde
[07:45] <Elda> Meh Im confused what is the difference between the amount of data in M and in Mbps?
[07:45] <wall0159> do you mean htere was a bug in the update that was released this week?
[07:46] <wall0159> ahh - there's an xorg update there - thanks! ;-)
[07:46] <argument> what's a good cli id3 tag editor?
[07:46] <Don_jr> well I"m lost and don't know what else to try....
[07:46] <JoseStefan> wall0159, yes there was a buggy package in the updates, it has been fixed now
[07:47] <wall0159> do you have any idea if I'd have an 'old' version of xorg.conf on my hard disk somewhere?
[07:47] <wall0159> otherwise, I'll have to fix it up.. (well, maybe dexconf will be able to do it once xorg is updated)
[07:47] <JoseStefan> wall0159, first check if the update fixes the problem ;) but yeah,
[07:47] <distantbody> Don_jr: Yep, i think you should do some googling
[07:47] <wall0159> ahh. ok - thanks
[07:47] <ISOLATEDViRuS> In the Terminal, what is the seperator used in the command "sudo apt-get install <package>" if i want to install multiple packages?
[07:47] <JoseStefan> wall0159, you might find backups in /etc/X11/
[07:47] <varsendaggr> ak    how can i  get grip working?
[07:48] <ISOLATEDViRuS> a comma? an ampersand?
[07:48] <JoseStefan> wall0159, or  /var/backups/xorg/
[07:48] <reitzell> wall0159: wget -c http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[07:48] <tom_> hey im a total noob and i need some basic help with how to install programs and stuff like that... anyone feel like helping?? :D
[07:48] <Don_jr> Gah, I"m frustrated tonight....I"ll try something else tomorrow
[07:48] <reitzell>  wget -c http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/dapper/xorg-server-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[07:48] <distantbody> Don_jr: here's a link: http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=390566
[07:49] <Don_jr> I just want a nix system that will work.....
[07:49] <ISOLATEDViRuS> In the Terminal, what is the seperator used in the command "sudo apt-get install <package>" if i want to install multiple packages?
[07:49] <JoseStefan> wall0159, after it finishes the upgrade, do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:49] <medicineman> ISOLATEDViRuS,  space does that
[07:49] <Elda> When something is 3M Downstream and 768 Upstream, is this M megabytes or megabits?
[07:49] <reitzell> then sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core*.deb
[07:49] <distantbody> Don_jr: I,ve been in that position *many* times before
[07:49] <JoseStefan> ISOLATEDViRuS, space
[07:50] <Geoffrey2> on a periodic basis, my mouse will suddenly stop responding....once I unplug and replug it, all is well, until it stops responding again
[07:50] <sethk> Geoffrey2, usb mouse?
[07:50] <Don_jr> that thread assumes you already have it installed..I can't even get the live CD to run
[07:50] <tom_> close
[07:50] <tom_> damn it!
[07:50] <sethk> Don_jr, what problem are you having?
[07:50] <wall0159> JoseStefan: thanks. I'll try that. I'm running updatedb at the moment, and I'll use locate to try and find another xorg.conf file. Thanks for your help! :-)
[07:51] <Geoffrey2> sethk, yes, Microsoft USB optical mouse
[07:51] <JoseStefan> wall0159, backups usually are renamed
[07:51] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so i would type " sudo apt-get install <package> <package> <package>" ?
[07:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, when the thing stops working, run dmesg.  See if there are any usb errors at the end
[07:51] <JoseStefan> wall0159, you might find backups in /etc/X11/  or  /var/backups/xorg/
[07:51] <distantbody> Don_jr: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22rng+not+detected%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[07:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, dmesg prints out the last ? kernel messages
[07:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, so new messages appear at the end
[07:51] <sethk> Geoffrey2, when you reconnect, dmesg will show the device being detected
[07:52] <sethk> Geoffrey2, possibly, when it goes bad, we might get a useful message also
[07:52] <wall0159> JoseStefan: cheers - I had a look there, but unfortunately didn't find anything..
[07:52] <GZ|louis> o
[07:52] <Don_jr> when the CD loads the drivers it gives me an error, 17179782.032000, hw_random:rng not detected, then moves on, finishes loading all the way to GNOME and one after that, then goes to a black screen with a NON blinking cursor and sits there
[07:52] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so i would type " sudo apt-get install <package> <package> <package>" ?
[07:52] <reitzell> wall0159:did you see my messages to you?
[07:52] <JoseStefan> wall0159, you could also reconfigure it yourself with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:52] <sethk> Don_jr, that's very odd
[07:52] <wall0159> JoseStefan: the update's installed, and X now runs - thanks!
[07:52] <SlaSheR84> arg the server install is evil!!
[07:52] <JoseStefan> wall0159, ok np
[07:52] <reitzell> sounds like you got it
[07:53] <wall0159> reitzell: sorry - no - I didn't *shucks*
[07:53] <Don_jr> odd seems to be my thing today...nothing want's to work right
[07:53] <sethk> Don_jr, you can try a text mode install
[07:53] <SlaSheR84> i cant get ssh to work
[07:53] <Don_jr> how do I do that from the live CD?
[07:53] <Don_jr> should I try to load the 'safe graphics mode"?
[07:53] <sethk> Don_jr, I believe on dapper you do it from the alternate
[07:53] <wall0159> reitzell: but looking back I see 'em - thanks too! ;-)
[07:53] <sethk> Don_jr, sure, try safe graphics mode
[07:53] <reitzell> np
[07:53] <sethk> Don_jr, that's easier, try that first
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> Don_jr: you can't do a text mode install from the live cd, you need the alternate cd for that.
[07:54] <reitzell> I did that and it fixed my xserver
[07:54] <Don_jr> okay I'll do that first and come back if it does or doesn't work
[07:54] <distantbody> Don_jr: I didnt think you even got to that menu. thats changes things now!?
[07:54] <sethk> Don_jr, ok, if it doesn't we'll try text mode
[07:54] <JoseStefan> i vote for a more streamlined msg for ubotu's xorgbugfix
[07:54] <Don_jr> distantbody that's the first menu that pops up, then it mounts the kernel or what ever, then switches to loading the drivers and then hangs
[07:54] <Don_jr> we'll try safe mode and see how it goes
[07:55] <Don_jr> be back in a few
[07:55] <natural20> so i'm a complete noob about linux; what ftp client is available for ubuntu?
[07:55] <wall0159> JoseStefan/reitzell: I notice that I now don't have a mention of 'GL something' (I forget exactly) in xorg.conf Modules section. Was it 'GLcore'? and does that mean that I now don't have an accelerated X11 session?
[07:56] <sethk> wall0159, not necessarily
[07:56] <reitzell> wall :nvida or ati?
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> natural20: you can just use nautilus to do FTP.
[07:56] <JoseStefan> wall0159, you could run glxgears to test
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> natural20: Place > Connect to Server.. -- choose one of the two FTP choices.
[07:56] <wall0159> ugh. Intel inbuilt. savage - I think ;-)
[07:56] <eugman> What's the cli way of making and editing archives?
[07:57] <Gumby> if a person wants to compile a kernel for ubuntu where does one go about finding the ubuntu kernel sources?
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> eugman: tar
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> !kernel
[07:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:57] <natural20> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[07:57] <Gumby> thx fyrestrtr
[07:58] <reitzell> wall: sorry I'm out
[07:58] <Gumby> if only current kernels came with proper drivers for my ati remote
[07:58] <Gumby> I have to recompile the whole kernel just for one simple module
[07:58] <wall0159> reitzell - thanks for your help! :-)
[07:58] <arm> what packages should i reinstall after changing my kernel to a smp kernel to get compiz working again?
[07:58] <sethk> Gumby, there is a kernel source package
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Gumby: you normally don't.
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> arm: none
[07:58] <sethk> Gumby, go into synaptic and search for packages with linux in the name
[07:59] <fyrestrtr> arm: you might need to reinstall your nvidia or ati drivers.
[07:59] <arm> i didn't, and i get a pure white cube
[07:59] <dshaw> hello, HELP! I was trying to get acess to some of my files on a hardrive
[07:59] <sethk> Gumby, you need kernel headers to compiler the module, generally speaking, but you don't need to compile the entire kernel
[07:59] <dshaw> I first used chmod to change the permissions to 644
[07:59] <JoseStefan> I suggest ubotu's xorgbugfix command be changed to: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:59] <Gumby> fyrestrtr: "normally"  :)  unfortunately I dont know any other way for my remote to change the key bindings the kernel module is using
[07:59] <sethk> dshaw, using numbers with chmod is generally a bad idea.
[08:00] <arm> even though 3d still works?
[08:00] <JoseStefan> who controls ubotu?
[08:00] <dshaw> and then imputed sudo chown -hR dshaw /media/sda1
[08:00] <Gumby> sethk: I need the source for the module  the .c file.
[08:00] <dshaw> and well... my files kind of... disappeared, gave the gnome "unknown file" icon
[08:00] <sethk> Gumby, that's the module source, not the entire kernel source
[08:00] <dshaw> the freespace on the drive was right... but couldnt get anything
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> sethk, well, I checked dmesg and I don't see anything I'd call an error...just a USB disconnect message followed by the mouse being detected....which could be when I disconnected and reconnected....I do notice that the address keeps going up by one..first it was address 3, then 4, now 5....next time it stops working I'll need to check dmesg to see if the disconnect message has popped up at that point
[08:01] <robert_> blah, I totally forgot how to install the common linux headers and whatnot
[08:01] <robert_> at least, using apt
[08:01] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I'm sure you are correct.  what we would like to discover is why the disconnect happens
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> robert_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:01] <sethk> Geoffrey2, the dmesg output may not help, but it may
[08:01] <Gumby> sethk: which is in the kernel source only. if you have a better way to compile just that module using its source and insert it into my current kernel then I am all ears
[08:01] <Elda> night all
[08:01] <robert_> ta
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> Gumby: download the headers, download the module source. Compile the module against the new headers, unload the old one, load the new one.
[08:01] <sethk> Gumby, why do you believe you need a .c file that's part of the kernel, rather than part of the module you are building?
[08:02] <radon1> I have USB disk (under windows works perfectly). If I mount i under linux:  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:02] <sethk> Gumby, I always install the kernel source, and that's easy to do, but it doesn't make sense.
[08:02] <radon1> please, could anyone help me?
[08:02] <Geoffrey2> sethk, I'll just mention this is on a Dell Inspiron 6000.....
[08:02] <Gumby> sethk: because I need to manually edit the .c file to change the key bindings that each button press of the remote is mapped to.
[08:02] <wall0159> JoseStefan: thanks for your help - I think it's sorted. Cheers! :-)
[08:02] <sethk> Gumby, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation.
[08:02] <JoseStefan> wall0159, ok
[08:02] <robert_> oooh
[08:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, that has a touch pad, I think, does the touch pad work also?
[08:02] <ryctor> mount -t msdosfs /dev/usbdisk /mnt/mountpoint
[08:02] <robert_> I think it auto-installed it for me
[08:02] <sethk> Geoffrey2, they might be stepping on each other.
[08:02] <dshaw> Some help would be really nice... it happened to be my backup drive while I reinstalled ubuntu... everything is on there...
[08:03] <sethk> just -t msdos
[08:03] <sethk> not msdosfs
[08:03] <phargle> vfat or ntfs
[08:03] <phargle> too
[08:03] <Geoffrey2> sethk, between that and my keyboard errors, I feel like I should be looking for a can of RAID in the repos :)
[08:03] <sethk> phargle, with -t msdos it is smart enough to figure out that it is fat16 or fat32 (== vfat)
[08:03] <ryctor> do as I say dude
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> Geoffrey2: software raid is still a big buggy you know ;)
[08:04] <sethk> Geoffrey2, something is very odd.  I've run linux on dell laptops without problems (earlier versions, of course)
[08:04] <Geoffrey2> sethk, yes, the touchpad works...I generally don't use it though, if I can help it
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: who told you to run chmod -hR ?
[08:04] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I hate them, also, but that's not the point.  I'm wondering if somehow the use of both is getting the system confused
[08:05] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I would try removing the touchpad configuration from your xorg.conf, see if the usb mouse starts behaving itself
[08:05] <sethk> fyrestrtr, good question, -h there makes no sense, certainly not with -R
[08:06] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, the "man chown" did, I was trying to get it to do the same to all the sub dirs...
[08:06] <JoseStefan> i dont see -h in the man
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: unplug the usb drive, plug it back in again. This time, don't run any commands.
[08:06] <sethk> JoseStefan, that's because it isn't a valid flag  :)
[08:06] <Geoffrey2> sethk, ok..lesse here...xorg.conf.....that's in /etc/x11 ?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: when it appears on your desktop, double click to open it.
[08:06] <JoseStefan> oh, now im confused, chmod or chown ?
[08:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, right.  copy it before making changes
[08:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I wouldn't edit the file directly
[08:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I would run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, wait, check that
[08:07] <dshaw> HERE:
[08:07] <sethk> Geoffrey2, no, that doesn't let you change the mouse
[08:07] <dshaw> EXAMPLES
[08:07] <dshaw>  chown -hR root /u
[08:07] <dshaw>               Change the owner of /u and subfiles to "root".
[08:08] <BOBSONATOR> Does any one know the APT-GET command for ubuntu themes?
[08:08] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, I tried mounting and unmounting the drive, and its a sata, not a usb
[08:08] <sethk> dshaw, where are you getting that from?   there are no examples in the man page for chmod
[08:08] <Gumby> chown
[08:08] <Gumby> not chmod
[08:08] <JoseStefan> its chown ;)
[08:08] <dshaw> sethk, chown!
[08:08] <medicineman> not meaning to be a pain here, but man page on dpkg said nothing about this, getting kind of desparate http://pastebin.ca/147189
[08:09] <BOBSONATOR> Does any one know the APT-GET command for ubuntu themes?
[08:09] <sethk> dshaw, oh, ok, sorry.  you certainly don't want to be using -h there
[08:09] <Gumby> dshaw: chown root:root /path/to/directory -R
[08:09] <sethk> dshaw, it may be harmless, but it certainly makes no sense
[08:09] <dshaw> .............
[08:09] <dshaw> IT TOLD ME TO!!! :P anyways, ill keep that in mind. a fix would help
[08:09] <BOBSONATOR> moo
[08:09] <sethk> Gumby, no, the -R before the other things
[08:09] <Gumby> sethk: it doesnt matter
[08:10] <sethk> dshaw, what are you trying to do, actually
[08:10] <distantbody> BOBSONATOR: http://art.gnome.org/themes
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: what filesystem is on the device?
[08:10] <sethk> Gumby, it may not, but you shouldn't encourage bad habits.  other commands definitely will barf.  always put your flags first
[08:10] <dshaw> well see, my files kind of vanished after that command I put in
[08:10] <dshaw> and then it gave them all (even the dirs) a gnome *unknown file* icon
[08:11] <sethk> Gumby, looking at the docs, it says that the options must preceed
[08:11] <dshaw> fyrestrtr: ext3
[08:11] <sethk> dshaw, forget about icons, and whatever, for now.  just go to a command line
[08:11] <Gumby> then the docs are written poorly.  because its not the case.  yes, it may be good practice, but saying the MUST precede is false in this case
[08:11] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: oh ... dear.
[08:11] <dshaw> sethk: in one
[08:11] <sethk> dshaw, in one what?
[08:12] <sethk> Gumby, the docs specify options first
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo mount -t auto /dev/whatever /media/wherever
[08:12] <JoseStefan> Gumby, putting options at end may be supported now, but might not be supported in future versions
[08:12] <sethk> Gumby, on what do you base the assertion that the docs are wrong?
[08:12] <dshaw> sethk: a command line
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: then, type 'mount'
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: and paste here the line with that device (not the entire output)
[08:12] <sethk> dshaw, work with fyrestrtr, he's on the right track and I'm interrupting
[08:12] <urmom> is there a way i can make right click ctrl click on my ibook g4?
[08:13] <Don_jr> That was friggin wierd
[08:13] <Don_jr> I got to a bash prompt
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> yes, the bash prompt is a strange animal.
[08:13] <Gumby> sethk: if the docs say that something MUST be done a specific way, and it works perfectly fine NOT doing it that way, then the docs are wrong
[08:13] <sethk> Don_jr, well, that's an improvement over a dead screen  :)
[08:13] <Don_jr> here's what happened
[08:14] <dshaw> sudo mount -t auto /dev/whatever /media/wherever
[08:14] <sethk> Gumby, you cannot have possibly tried all the combinations where the options might be in the wrong position and checked the results
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> Gumby: no, the docs aren't wrong. The program is written in a way to deal with people that don't read the docs (as good programs should).
[08:14] <Don_jr> it started loading as normal, mounting root, this kind of thing, after choosing safe graphics mode
[08:14] <Geoffrey2> sethk, I guess I'd prefer not to remove the touchpad settings if I don't have to...when I have the notebook running on battery, I do use the touchpad....when I'm at my desk and plugged into AC, the I use my USB mouse
[08:14] <JoseStefan> Gumby, alternate support can not be guaranteed to work on all versions, always
[08:14] <sethk> Geoffrey2, ok, I'm not sure it is related, in any event
[08:14] <Don_jr> then a big screen popped up saying Xserver did not load properly, it is likley it is not set up correctly would you like to view server output?
[08:15] <sethk> Geoffrey2, find out if the disconnect happens when the mouse stops working, or doesn't happen until you disconnect the mouse
[08:15] <dshaw> whoops: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ext3 (rw)
[08:15] <Don_jr> I chose yes, and it said -bash: no job control in this shell to run commands as root use sudo, inptu man sudo_root for details
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: cd /media/sd1
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> ls -l
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> what are the perms and the owner/group ?
[08:15] <JoseStefan> Gumby, that syntax may very well be depracated, and you never know when an update could take it away
[08:15] <Don_jr> and I didn't know what to do from there.....lol  when I hit the power button to shut down the computer it went back to the ubuntu screen and started unloading everything for a hault.
[08:15] <Geoffrey2> ok, next time it happens I'll be sure to check
[08:15] <Gumby> JoseStefan: I am not saying it should be.  But if you sit there and tell me that the tree is brown only and I look at the tree and see that the tree is indeed brown but it also has some green on it then the tree really isnt brown "ONLY".  the same case applies for the current manpage aparantly
[08:15] <dshaw> bash: cd: /media/sda1: Permission denied
[08:16] <sethk> oh, he changed the mount point, not the files
[08:16] <Geoffrey2> sethk, the other problem I'm having is I'll be typing along and all of a sudden the curser will jump back into the middle of the sentence I was typing
[08:16] <T3KnO> > is it possible to make counterstrike source work on Ubuntu?
[08:16] <Gumby> when the syntax becomre deprecated then the man page should be adjusted to show this
[08:16] <sethk> get his mount point permissions back to something reasonable
[08:16] <Gumby> but in all honesty its not really something worth arguing about
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo -i, then cd /media/sda1 and ls -l, note the permissions and user:group, then type exit;
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> Gumby: Geoffrey2 take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:17] <sethk> Geoffrey2, that is also odd.  I've used linux on very similar machines, although it was much earlier kernel versions
[08:17] <rpedro> anyone here have XGL runnining on an ATI card?
[08:17] <fdsd> hey guys, I am trying to remove gimp or gnome or anything and is says:  Unmet depenedencies.  Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) and it says blah: Depends: ekiga but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed etc...
[08:17] <fdsd> any idea?
[08:17] <JoseStefan> Gumby, for support reasons, it's best to stick as close to the official docs as possible
[08:17] <woodwizzle> How come gstreamer .8 is a dep for gnomebaker. Can't I just use my 0.10 which is already installed
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> sethk, if I'm typing in a text box on a web page, sometimes it'll result in me shooting way up or down on the page, and I'll have to scroll back to find the text box again
[08:17] <distantbody> Don_jr: That could mean anything from unsupported monitor, unsupported vid card, misconfigured resolutions...
[08:17] <dshaw> okay... now what?
[08:18] <Don_jr> so I"m pretty much stuck not being able to run it
[08:18] <sethk> Geoffrey2, this happens randomly?  no pattern at all?
[08:18] <sethk> Geoffrey2, only in web pages, or anywhere?
[08:18] <distantbody> Don_jr: No...
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: ls -l, and not the permissions and owner:group -- by note I mean, tell me what they are :)
[08:18] <fdsd> any one?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> Madpilot: :)
[08:18] <sethk> Don_jr, do a text mode install.  then you'll be able to configure it
[08:18] <Don_jr> if I get the text install, will I as a new user be able to understand it enough to install it? and will the GUI come with it after instalation?
[08:18] <Geoffrey2> sethk, no pattern that I can detect...it's happened on web pages, in here, in Open Office....
[08:18] <Madpilot> hi fyrestrtr
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> I got the key thing sorted out yesterday. It was a port issue, thanks.
[08:19] <sethk> Geoffrey2, this may seem odd, but try plugging in an external keyboard, see if the behavior changes or not
[08:19] <fdsd> does anyone know?
[08:19] <fdsd> hey guys, I am trying to remove gimp or gnome or anything and is says:  Unmet depenedencies.  Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) and it says blah: Depends: ekiga but it is not going to be installed Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed etc...
[08:19] <JoseStefan> fdsd, does it state "why?"
[08:19] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, good to hear. So which port do GPG keyservers use, anyway?
[08:19] <sethk> fdsd, did you try running the command it suggests?
[08:20] <Madpilot> fdsd, that probably means your sources.list is irregular
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> sethk, I'll have to go digging and see if I still have a USB keyboard
[08:20] <distantbody> Don_jr: There are alot of unknowns, the first thing that i thought to do was edit the xorg.conf file, if thats possible from where you got to
[08:20] <fdsd> JoseStefan, no, sethk yes, Madpilot how do I fix that?
[08:20] <sethk> Geoffrey2, I was thinking of a normal keyboard, but maybe you need the docking station to connect a normal keyboard
[08:20] <sethk> fdsd, no change?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Madpilot: 11371 apparently.
[08:20] <Don_jr> possibly, how do I go about doing that? lol
[08:20] <Madpilot> fdsd, can you pastebin your sources.list
[08:20] <fdsd> sethk, no change
[08:21] <Madpilot> fyrestrtr, that's a good obscure number ;)
[08:21] <fdsd> Madpilot, no, the machine is in vmware.. cant copy and paste anything
[08:21] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, the directorys are drw-r--r-- the one file which is drw-r--r--
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> Madpilot: lol yeah, had to troll my logs to find it.
[08:21] <JoseStefan> fdsd, synaptics has an easy way to do it
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: owner/group ?
[08:21] <fdsd> JoseStefan, is that a gui application?
[08:21] <dshaw> *the one file is -rw-r--r--
[08:21] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well you got to a command prompt?
[08:21] <sethk> fdsd, somehow your package data has gotten corrupted.   Try JoseStefan's suggestion if you can
[08:21] <JoseStefan> fdsd, yes
[08:21] <Don_jr> I can't find the text install download...lol
[08:21] <Madpilot> fdsd, ah. Have you changed the sources.list on this install at all?
[08:21] <fdsd> JoseStefan, no gui on that machine
[08:21] <Don_jr> yes I got to a command promps, I did man sudo_root like it said and it told me about it
[08:22] <fdsd> Madpilot, nope
[08:22] <Madpilot> fdsd, odd, then. Not sure what to suggest
[08:22] <urmom> where can i download starterbar?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> fdsd: try sudo apt-get update
[08:22] <Geoffrey2> sethk, I don't believe a docking station exists for this model...and there's no PS/2 keyboard socket
[08:22] <fdsd> fyrestrtr, ok
[08:22] <sethk> Geoffrey2, you could be right, I might be thinking of a different inspiron.
[08:22] <JoseStefan> fdsd, and after the update try running this again: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:22] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, ick, ill just post the whole thing
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r--  7 root dshaw      4096 Aug 23 12:50 Anime
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r--  6 root root       4096 Aug 23 12:15 Backity of the Backups
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r-- 14 root root       4096 Aug 23 13:24 Backity of the Up
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r--  3 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 04:34 Flash
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r--  7 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 04:34 Images
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r--  2 root dshaw      4096 Aug  1 19:02 LIMEDOWN
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r-- 56 root dshaw      4096 Aug 22 03:53 Music
[08:23] <dshaw> drw-r--r-- 14 root dshaw      4096 Aug 21 21:00 Video
[08:23] <dshaw> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  730675200 Aug 23 10:14 ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: pastebin!!
[08:23] <ryctor> I am in a Inspiron 2560 2GHz no problems
[08:23] <JoseStefan> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <fdsd> JoseStefan, ok
[08:23] <dpupp> So im about to install xp and ubuntu to dual boot on a 40gb notebook drive. im debating how to distribute the free space.  I was thinking 10gb for xp os NTFS, 10gb for free space Fat32 and the  other 20gb linux. , ... Im seeking your oipinion.
[08:23] <fdsd> fyrestrtr, didnt fix it
[08:23] <sethk> Geoffrey2, it would be interesting to see what a usb keyboard does, although since the usb mouse isn't behaving, it would probably not be very useful
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> fdsd: what was the last thing you installed?
[08:23] <sethk> dpupp, that's reasonable
[08:23] <dpupp> can linux write to fat32 with no issues at all?
[08:24] <fdsd> fyrestrtr, I removed all the applications it says I have unmet dependencies on, then this started happening
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo chown -R dshaw:dshaw /media/sda1
[08:24] <sethk> dpupp, yes
[08:24] <sethk> dpupp, ntfs has issues, which you probably already know.  writing to vfat is stable and works well
[08:24] <dshaw> used pastebin, so I write that command in?
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> fdsd: is this a fresh install, is it a server, are you on dapper or breezy?
[08:25] <JoseStefan> fdsd, what is the output for: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: yes.
[08:25] <fdsd> fyrestrtr, a modified ubuntu 6.06 livecd
[08:25] <dpupp> sethk, can winxp run on less than 10gb? and, if i decide, can i kill xp and give the space back to linux without issues later?
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: exactly as it is written betweeen the > < here -- > sudo chown -R dshaw:dshaw /media/sda1 <
[08:25] <fdsd> JoseStefan, one sec
[08:26] <fdsd> JoseStefan, how do I purge applications that are installed?
[08:26] <sethk> dpupp, giving the space back is no problem.  winxp can run, but I guess it depends on what apps you are going to install.  I'm not an xp expert by any means
[08:26] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, is doing something...
[08:26] <ryctor> let me see If I understand. you are trying to uninstall aplications on a live cd?
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: yes, and depending on the size of your disk, it will do that 'something' for a while :)
[08:26] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, its done now.
[08:26] <JoseStefan> fdsd, i just apt-get remove, i think dpkg can further remove any files left
[08:26] <dpupp> fat32 has the 4gb file size limit right?
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: okay, now cd /media/sda1/Music
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: then, ls -l
[08:26] <ivx> hey what is the command to authenticate root in ubuntu?
[08:27] <sethk> dpupp, I believe that's correct, yes.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: does it give you any errors?
[08:27] <dpupp> is there similar issues in linux ?
[08:27] <JoseStefan> !root > ivx
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> !sudo > ivx
[08:27] <dshaw> bash: cd: /media/sda1/Music: Permission denied
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> dpupp: no.
[08:27] <ivx> no no i ment for the password... it is something psswrd
[08:27] <distantbody> Don_jr: After that bad experience I think you should probably go back to the laptop and maybe you should go through it step-by-step.
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: what does the ouput of the command whoami tell you?
[08:28] <Don_jr> try the safe graphic mode on the laptop?
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> fdsd: sudo apt-get remove --purge foo
[08:28] <distantbody> Don_jr: And screenshot would help alot, safe mode on laptop sounds best
[08:28] <Don_jr> and step-by-step how else can I go througH? lol
[08:29] <Don_jr> screenshot? how do you take a screenshot wihout an OS to run a program to take a screenshot?? lol
[08:29] <ubuntu> hi guys
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> Don_jr: a camera :)
[08:29] <dpupp> hmm. ok thanks. would this be a better idea: 40gb drive: 10gb xp NTFS, 10gb linux, and 20gb FAT32 user space... ? ...
[08:29] <distantbody> Don_jr: Step-bu-step (assuming some progress is made:-/)
[08:29] <Don_jr> loading esential drivers, mounting root file system, it's running thorugh those at the moment
[08:30] <ubuntu> dpupp:  try keeping fat32
[08:30] <Don_jr> configuring X turned out OK
[08:30] <dshaw> fyrstrtr, says I am "dshaw"
[08:31] <dpupp> i think this would work ^_^ does fat32 mount by defaut after installing linux?
[08:31] <Don_jr> maybe I should try a different nix? lol
[08:31] <ubuntu> dpupp:  which distro?
[08:31] <ubuntu> if ubuntu, yes :)
[08:31] <vbgunz> I have no sound! I tried killall esd and then esd & but that doesn't do anything :(
[08:31] <dpupp> ubuntu - dapper.
[08:31] <ubuntu> dpupp: u should have no issues ;)
[08:31] <distantbody> Don_jr: You *could* try DSL...
[08:31] <ryctor> Don_jr: what is the problem?
[08:32] <Don_jr> DSL?
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: now what does it tell you when you ls -l /media/sda1/Music ?
[08:32] <dpupp> ok. i want to be able to share that fat32 between windows and linux.
[08:32] <vbgunz> Anybody know how I can get my sound back? sound is not muted!
[08:32] <ubuntu> dsl = damn small linux
[08:32] <ubuntu> www.damnsmalllinux.org
[08:32] <distantbody> Damn Small Linux...although i haven't tried it myself
[08:32] <Don_jr> ryctor lots! lol very slow lap top is one problem, and my desktop...just doen'st like it
[08:32] <dshaw> ls: /media/sda1/Music/: Permission denied
[08:32] <ubuntu> dshaw:  chk perm. settings
[08:32] <masterchief> can somebody help me in how to install flash player on linux using xubuntu terminal?
[08:32] <Don_jr> it's loading restricted drivers, basic networking, hardware drivers, on to those now
[08:33] <dpupp> well! time to format. 10 xp 10 lin and 20 for me ^_^ bbl
[08:33] <Don_jr> mrv8k: firmware 'mrv8k-b.fw' not available or load failed
[08:33] <ubuntu> pupp good luck
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo chmod -R 755 /media/sda1/
[08:33] <dshaw> (using sudo before it gives the listing)
[08:33] <ryctor> are using drappers live cd?
[08:33] <Don_jr> but it moved on anyways...probably my wireless card
[08:33] <ubuntu> fyrestrtr:  hi there
[08:33] <Don_jr> yes
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: hello
[08:33] <masterchief> guys?
[08:33] <masterchief> help pls?
[08:33] <ubuntu> masterchief:  for firefox?
[08:33] <masterchief> yes
[08:34] <ubuntu> ok
[08:34] <ubuntu> did u download the setup file/
[08:34] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, now it gives me the readout of the dir
[08:34] <masterchief> no mozilla-thunderbird
[08:34] <Don_jr> ubuntu is singing and loading windows now...lol
[08:34] <ryctor> firefox installs it automaticly
[08:34] <Don_jr> window manager and nautilus
[08:34] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: okay good, now access your files and move them around. If you want to just have this drive mounted at boot, you need to add it /etc/fstab
[08:34] <ubuntu> masterchief:  thundebird?
[08:35] <ubuntu> flash for thundernird?
[08:35] <masterchief> yes dats it
[08:35] <ubuntu> bird*
[08:35] <ryctor> weird
[08:35] <ubuntu> u dont need flash for thundebird
[08:35] <masterchief> look, im running on mozilla-thunderbird instead of firefox
[08:35] <ubuntu> as far as i know
[08:35] <ryctor> thunderbird doesnt uses plugins, it uses mime types
[08:36] <ubuntu> ryctor:  true
[08:36] <ryctor> thunderbird is mail
[08:36] <ryctor> ffox ishttp
[08:36] <ubuntu> firefox is a browser
[08:36] <masterchief> i dont know
[08:36] <sethk> masterchief, thunderbird is a mail client
[08:36] <masterchief> i know dat
[08:36] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, nautilus wont let me acess Backity of the Backups, says "permission denied"
[08:36] <sethk> masterchief, it has nothing to do with firefox
[08:36] <masterchief> it says here mozilla-thunderbird
[08:36] <Don_jr> and now I see gnome.  I'll wait for the disk to calm down and hit install??
[08:36] <ubuntu> hi sethk
[08:37] <sethk> ubuntu, hi
[08:37] <ryctor> so, when have you ever installed a plugin in an email reader?
[08:37] <sethk> masterchief, oh, advertising
[08:37] <dpupp> how big is a typical ubuntu install after its been fluffed up a little?
[08:37] <sethk> masterchief, thunderbird is good enough
[08:37] <ubuntu> masterchief:  type firefox in ur konsole
[08:37] <distantbody> Don_jr: Whats the disk doing?
[08:37] <ubuntu> run that to open sites
[08:37] <Don_jr> it's still goin nutz, gnome hasn't completely loaded just yet
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: add it with the following optons rw,uid=youruserid,gid=yourgroupid -- to find your userid and group id type grep yourusername /etc/passwd -- you'll see output similar to username:x:somenumber:somenumber:otherstuff -- the first number is your userid, the second is your groupid
[08:37] <masterchief> terminal is the console rightz/
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: hrmm, okay if nautilus is still complaining, get back to console.
[08:38] <ubuntu> masterchief: yes
[08:38] <distantbody> Don_jr: Yeah, the best option is not to give it any new tasks until it has inished the previous one/s
[08:38] <dpupp> im currently using 6.2gb under linux... is that about right for the average user?
[08:38] <Don_jr> I"m clicking install then going to bed I'll see what it does in the morning, it's 1:30 am here and I"ve been at this since about 4pm
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo umount /dev/sda1, then sudo mount -t auto -o rw,uid=youruserid,gid=yourgroupid,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:38] <FliesLikeABrick> after some normal usage dpupp, yeah
[08:39] <dpupp> ok cool
[08:39] <ubuntu> dpupp: yes it shold be ok
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: then try it from nautilus again.
[08:39] <masterchief> how do i type it in?
[08:39] <ryctor> OMG
[08:39] <Aleixz> lol
[08:39] <ubuntu> lol
[08:39] <ryctor> with the keyboard?
[08:39] <distantbody> Don_jr: I hope you don't hate Ubuntu now:(
[08:39] <ubuntu> most people use keyboards ;)
[08:39] <Don_jr> Oh no, not at all, it's my idiotic computers, not the program
[08:40] <ubuntu> ubuntu is awesome :)
[08:40] <Don_jr> nothing to say I won't get it going, it just hasn't worked YET! :)
[08:40] <masterchief> like this ? /flashplayer-installer/firefox
[08:40] <dshaw> fyrsrtr:so wait the output is this: dshaw:x:1000:1000:Dylan Shaw,,,:/home/dshaw:/bin/bash which is the userid and which is the group id?
[08:40] <KrakensDen> screen -RD
[08:40] <distantbody> Don_jr: Well good luck. I hope you get it done tomorrow!
[08:40] <ivx> hey what do you guys think is the best web browser
[08:40] <ubuntu> masterchief: just type firefox
[08:40] <KrakensDen> er, sorry
[08:41] <ubuntu> ivx:  firefox
[08:41] <ubuntu> opera iant bad too
[08:41] <ubuntu> aint*
[08:41] <fr500> ivx: epiphany
[08:41] <Don_jr> I'll sure be trying! and i'll be in here all day trying if I have to.  Hope you all and who ever here tomorrow don't get too annoyed with me! hehe
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: 1000,1000
[08:41] <fr500> ivx: it's light
[08:41] <fr500> ivx: but firefox rocks because of so much extensions
[08:41] <Don_jr> I've never had a computer that I coulnd't make do what I wanted yet, I don't intend to start now! lol
[08:41] <fr500> google browser sync best among them
[08:42] <distantbody> Don_jr: I'll *try* to be in tomorrow!
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: 1000 is your userid, 1000 is your groupid
[08:42] <masterchief> well dat open the web
[08:42] <ivx> fr500 i'm using fire too...
[08:42] <Don_jr> if ya can great, if not I'm sure someone will be here to answer something.  I"m off to bed, ya'll have a good one
[08:43] <dshaw> fyrestrtr: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:43] <dshaw>        missing codepage or other error
[08:43] <dshaw>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:43] <dshaw>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:43] <masterchief> Navigate to this directory and from the command line type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer (Note: this can only be run from the command line). The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s). what does dat mean?
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: hrmm
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: remove -t auto from your mount command, try it again (make sure you use sudo)
[08:44] <masterchief> a step by step guide is very helpfil right now
[08:44] <ubuntu> masterchief:  well dude , when u run firefox and visit a site that use flash, it auto prompt u to install flash and does it
[08:44] <ubuntu> anyways
[08:44] <masterchief> already did and it failed
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: I'll tell you a step by step guide, but you must follow it exactly.
[08:45] <ubuntu> kool
[08:45] <masterchief> alright
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> are you ready?
[08:45] <due> I'm sure there's some solution to it, but I've noticed that any video I watch is extremely bright, anything of a light colour is almost burned away.
[08:45] <masterchief> first?
[08:45] <ryctor> man, cd to the flash-installed dir and ls, there will be a flashplayer-installer file, type ./flashplayer-installer
[08:45] <due> (with mplayer, totem, whatever)
[08:45] <dshaw> fyrstrtr, I did that... it gave a rather large help type output
[08:46] <masterchief> im not good in programming
[08:46] <Agrajag> this isn't programmign
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: what did you type exactly.
[08:46] <ryctor> are you good browsing filesystems?
[08:46] <dshaw> sudo umount /dev/sda1, then sudo mount -t auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:46] <minerale> How can I specify 'input commands' such as $ program < commands.txt  but instead of a file just a direct text $ program < "value1" ?
[08:47] <ubuntu> ryctor: hi
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: step 1 is to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[08:47] <masterchief> other than reading short names yes
[08:47] <dshaw> sudo mount auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:47] <_w^x_> I need a video file editor, that can edit .avi mpeg mpeg4 .ogg etc...
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> minerale: ermm, program foo bar zoo
[08:48] <minerale> fyrestrtr: this program does not accept direct commands, it does some stuff then prompts for input
[08:48] <dshaw> ( the second one, the first one was left over. (dont worry I took out everything before the second command)
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:48] <_w^x_> Kino does not seem to work, I go to import one of my files from the harddisk and  Kino gives me a bunch a shit about not being able to import
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> minerale: man xargs
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> !language
[08:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:48] <dshaw> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:48] <masterchief> next?
[08:48] <dshaw>        missing codepage or other error
[08:48] <dshaw>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:48] <dshaw>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: read that page
[08:49] <masterchief> did
[08:50] <masterchief> tar -zxf install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[08:50] <masterchief>  type in this?
[08:50] <minerale> fyrestrtr: i'm looking to do this: echo "public" > file.txt; oraenv < file.txt   in one step
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: are you reading the page I told you to go to?
[08:50] <ubuntu> yes, only when u reach to the folder where .\install file is
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> minerale: see the man page for 'xargs'
[08:50] <Orasis1> Has anyone updated lately?
[08:51] <sethk> ubuntu, .\?   no backslashes in real operating systems
[08:51] <Orasis1> Has anyone noticed a drastic ammount of slow down after upgrading?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: okay, something is wrong then. try sudo mount -t auto -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:51] <sethk> Orasis1, I've talked to a couple of other people who have asked that question
[08:51] <ubuntu> sethk:  right, i'm sorry
[08:51] <sethk> ubuntu, :)
[08:51] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, same thing
[08:51] <Orasis1> sethk: Are you experiencing the same thing?
[08:52] <sethk> Orasis1, no, but I haven't updated yet.  You updated to dapper?
[08:52] <minerale> what does one call ">" and "<" when used to redirect input output ?
[08:52] <Orasis1> My system was perfect until I did this upgrade
[08:52] <ubuntu> i ahd updated
[08:52] <ubuntu> but then formmated ,
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: hrmm ... same with sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[08:52] <ubuntu> now back to 5
[08:52] <Orasis1> sethk: No I simply upgraded my packages on Synaptic, I was already on dapper
[08:52] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, yeah
[08:52] <sethk> Orasis1, oh, so just packages from the past day, or a few days?
[08:52] <ivx> what media player to you guys use
[08:53] <Orasis1> Yeah, kernel - ubuntu everything that was "upgradeable"
[08:53] <ubuntu> ivx:  amarok for mp3, mplayer/vlc for video :)
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: and the same with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[08:53] <due> minerale: try piping stdin? "echo "value1" | command"?
[08:53] <Orasis1> And now.. wow slow down like you would not believe even in Flux
[08:53] <ivx> ubuntu: did you have to do anything special to play *.wmv
[08:54] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, there it is. mounted
[08:54] <ubuntu> ivx:  u will need codecs
[08:54] <ubuntu> ivx:  mplayerhq.hu
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, run top, see what's using all the cpu
[08:54] <ubuntu> i think is the site for it
[08:54] <ubuntu> :)
[08:54] <Orasis1> top?
[08:54] <ivx> ubuntu: thanks i'll check it out
[08:54] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, thanks so much, naut seems to like all the files now.
[08:54] <nich0s> bottom
[08:54] <nich0s> idk
[08:54] <ubuntu> np
[08:54] <masterchief> okay,so it says here it not a directory(in the terminal)
[08:54] <nich0s> don't listent to me.
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, top, runs in a terminal, lists out currently running processes and what resources they are consuming
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, the biggest consumers at the top
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: I already told you how to get it done the easy way, but apparently, you want to do it the (wrong) way, so go ahead :)
[08:55] <minerale> what does the shell built in command . (dot) do ? I'm being instructed to run a script by typing . oraenv (dot space oraenv) and I don't understand what it's doing
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, the dot is the same as source
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, it reads in commands from a file
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, for example, you can reread your .bashrc with:    . ~/.bashrc
[08:57] <sethk> minerale, that file (oraenv) probably has export and set statements to set shell variables
[08:57] <Anubuntu> hey does anyone know if the update now has the xserver patch?
[08:57] <Anubuntu> it was crashing before.
[08:57] <Orasis1> lol..
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: You have to be kidding me.. that was there all this time?
[08:58] <sethk> Orasis1, that goes back to bsd unix, yes  :)
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: I was typing all this -=> ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'
[08:58] <ubuntu> sethk: ever tried installing lilo on ubuntu?
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: lol, well thanks for saving me future time :P
[08:58] <sethk> Orasis1, you're welcome  :)
[08:59] <atm0sph> does anyone here use xgl & Compiz by chance?
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> sure
[08:59] <minerale> sethk: ah I see, thanks. How is that different from typing sh command ? they both execute the file line by line, right?
[08:59] <atm0sph> fyre: by chance do you know what repository I need to apt-get install gset-compiz ??  Also, I'm experiencing a bug with my ALT key.. it seems to throw whatever window is focus'd over to the next workspace to the right...
[09:00] <minerale> sethk: well, except that you must specify the full path when typing sh /some/command
[09:00] <sethk> minerale, when you  source a file, you don't start a new shell, you change things in the present shell.  When you do sh  whatever, you start a new shell
[09:00] <Orasis1> sethk: Does top show "all" processes?, Because I do not see "Fluxbox" in that list..
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: first, xgl/compiz is highly experimental stuff, so expect it to break, complain, eat your cat. Second, gset-compiz is no longer recommended, just use the gconf-editor.
[09:00] <sethk> minerale, so if, say, there is an export statement in the   sh  whatever,  when that command ends that shell exits and the change is lost
[09:00] <natural20> so using nautilus (breezy) my tansfers stall without ever starting.  suggestions?
[09:01] <atm0sph> why's it no longer recommended?
[09:01] <masterchief> i read it over and over again. wahts the point?
[09:01] <atm0sph> fyre: Any idea about my ALT issue?
[09:01] <sethk> Orasis1, if you make your terminal big enough, it will, otherwise it shows however many lines there are
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: because the changes don't take affect (afaik).
[09:01] <macogw> how do i run network-manager-gnome
[09:01] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:01] <macogw> typing that in doesnt make it go
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: sounds like a keymap problem. Try resetting your keyboard mapping, or fiddle with the key settings for compiz.
[09:01] <atm0sph> hmm I have no clue how to reset my keymap...
[09:02] <atm0sph> :D
[09:02] <Orasis1> sethk: Gotcha
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[09:02] <ubuntu> macogw:  i think gnome-network-preferences
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: more question @ #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[09:03] <Master_Peace> hi
[09:03] <Master_Peace> :D
[09:03] <atm0sph> yeah everyone's all afk tho - I'm gonna restart and try that keymap thing.. I added it to my start script
[09:03] <atm0sph> brb
[09:04] <macogw> that went to proxies
[09:04] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[09:04] <kapheroph> hello all :)
[09:05] <trygg> Is there any easy way to apt-get the codecs for mplayer?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> trygg: mplayer includes most of the codecs.
[09:05] <trygg> But not all. :
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> like what?
[09:05] <Vide80> hi
[09:05] <knubbe> isnt mplayer broken nowadays?
[09:05] <atm0sph> fyrestarter your keymap thingie worked - problem solved.  Thanks
[09:05] <ubuntu> macogw:  try network-admin
[09:06] <trygg> The problem could btw be me, but i cant play .wvv
[09:06] <Vide80> anyone having success in configuring NUT (Network UPS manager) on ubuntu dapper?
[09:06] <trygg> .wmv*
[09:06] <kapheroph> howdy video80 :)
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> trygg: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <atm0sph> now would anyone know why my Gaim crashes as soon as MSN connects?
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> trygg: you need the w32codecs
[09:06] <ryctor> cus MSN sucks
[09:06] <trygg> Yeh i know, i was wondering if there is any fast way to do it? :)
[09:06] <ubuntu> ryctor:  lol
[09:06] <atm0sph> seriously tho
[09:06] <atm0sph> whats the real reason?
[09:06] <ubuntu> atm0sph:  use amsn
[09:07] <LMJ_Work> I have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: msn doesn't like you, and they are angry you aren't using vista.
[09:07] <atm0sph> haha
[09:07] <atm0sph> eff vista.
[09:07] <trygg> atm0sph: dont use amsn, use emesene if you just want a very lightweight msnclone
[09:07] <ryctor> hasta la Vista, Baby
[09:07] <albacker> guys i installed flash, but still firefox doesnt view flash pages what to do ? i used RestrictedFormats it didnt work, did the manual way, didnt work either, than did automatix, and it didnt still work ! ANY IDEA ?
[09:07] <Madpilot> ryctor, you mean Virusta, right?
[09:07] <nich0s> !ask > nich0s
[09:07] <ryctor> lol
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png ;)
[09:08] <atm0sph> albacker there's only flash 7 for linux thus far..  most flash nowadays is 8 or 9...  so.. until we get a better flash client we're hooped
[09:08] <Scottrix> hey, has anyone here got a logitech G15 keyboard?
[09:08] <ubuntu> any1 tried picasa?
[09:09] <mdke> how can I kill a process that doesn't want to die? I tried "kill pid", but it's still hanging around
[09:09] <atm0sph> o0o0o fyre..  how'd you skin it up like that? :D
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: f-spot does it for me.
[09:09] <nich0s> To be honest, I don't even know why kind of keyboard I am using :P
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> mdke: sudo kill -9 pid
[09:09] <ryctor> albacker: did you tried copying the  two files in /.mozilla or /usr/lib/browser-plugins or something like that?
[09:09] <ubuntu> i just use gthumb
[09:09] <ubuntu> work gr8 for me
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: xgl + compiz + dual screen :)
[09:09] <atm0sph> AND Dual monitors
[09:09] <atm0sph> niuce
[09:09] <ubuntu> i tried picasa, it is slow
[09:09] <atm0sph> dude
[09:09] <mdke> fyrestrtr: brilliant, that's done it, thanks
[09:10] <ubuntu> atm0sph:  try using -9 with kill ammand
[09:10] <ubuntu> command*
[09:10] <atm0sph> why's that?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> mdke: fyi, if its a window that's stuck or won't close, alt+f2 xkill and when the cursor changes to skull and bones, one left click on the offending window will also take care of it.
[09:10] <ubuntu> to force it to kill
[09:10] <masterchief> r u guys telling me to extract this to a cd?
[09:11] <Anubuntu> hey, how do I get ubuntu to detect a sata harddrive that I plug in while the system is on? (sata IS hotswappable, before anyone reprimands me on that)
[09:11] <Scottrix> cool thats a good thing to know
[09:11] <atm0sph> my alt-f2 brings up a run command dialog
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: yeah, then type xkill and hit enter :)
[09:11] <nich0s> SATA is... awww. :P
[09:11] <Scottrix> ah i see
[09:11] <Madpilot> Anubuntu, SATA isn't actually hotswappable on some motherboards - my mobo does SATA, but not hotswap.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> there is also a panel applet for it, but I don't use it personally. You might find it handy. Does the same thing.
[09:12] <masterchief> inda jua ku merati....kamu ani menolong kah apa?
[09:12] <Anubuntu> Madpilot, well its done it in windows. so I am assuming it is.
[09:12] <masterchief> paham bahasa melayu
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> Anubuntu: the swappable or not is going to depend on how well your chipset is supported.
[09:13] <masterchief> bauta gila kah kamu ani?
[09:13] <atm0sph> fyre: to get dual monitors working, what do I need to alter in my xorg.conf?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: are you using nvidia or ati or something else?
[09:13] <Anubuntu> ick, so I should just restart then...
[09:13] <atm0sph> nvidia
[09:13] <Anubuntu> ill go do that.
[09:13] <ubuntu> well time to go
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: use TwinView, easy as pie to setup.
[09:13] <ubuntu> later guys
[09:13] <macogw> albacker: flash 9 isnt available for linux.  they last one released was flash 7.  what you can do is download mozilla for windows and install it in wine, then do the same with flash 9.  put flash 9 into that windows mozilla, and run the whole chunk on wine
[09:13] <Anubuntu> oh, one last quesion, why does it only give the option for hibernate when I hit the shutdown button?
[09:14] <macogw> because you have the same bug as me
[09:14] <macogw> use sudo reboot to restart
[09:14] <macogw> and sudo halt to shut down
[09:14] <atm0sph> can you advise on twinview setup?  I've never used it before..
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> sethk, just to let you know, the mouse just froze again...only messages I saw in dmesg say VFS: busy inodes on changed media
[09:14] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:15] <atm0sph> lemme upload my xorg.conf
[09:15] <atm0sph> sec
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: sure, hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then hit enter to open up your xorg.conf file.
[09:15] <trygg> fyrestrtr: thanks, the w32codecs did it. :)
[09:15] <atm0sph> I'm there
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: you already have your nvidia drivers setup, right?
[09:16] <atm0sph> yeah
[09:16] <atm0sph> I got ompiz running no problem
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> okay now scroll down to Section "Screen"
[09:16] <atm0sph> oh question re: that - can I just wipe out all but one of the SubSections
[09:17] <atm0sph> I notice they all have differnet bit-depths, but I only want to you 24.. so..  wiping the other ones makes sense?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: if you only use one color depth, sure.
[09:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Im a little lost, this is a quick fix though. How do i make a 'launcher' on my desktop?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: they are there for a reason, but for all practical purposes, you can delete them.
[09:17] <atm0sph> ok
[09:17] <atm0sph> done.
[09:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> And, how do i link it to a file?
[09:17] <atm0sph> what do I need to ad?
[09:17] <atm0sph> add
[09:17] <masterchief> guys?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: right click on the desktop :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, right-click on your desktop, choose Create Launcher
[09:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS> well, i do that, but i dont understand what to do after that...
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: create a few blank lines above DefaultDepth 24
[09:18] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: is it ok if i listen in? i'm trying the same thing...
[09:18] <atm0sph> k
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: I can't stop you, and you are welcome to ask questions.
[09:18] <masterchief> atleast tell me how to install real player ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> type Option "CoolBits" "1"
[09:18] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, what're you trying to do with the launcher?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> then, Option "TwinView" "true"
[09:19] <kapheroph> thanks :)
[09:19] <atm0sph> done..
[09:19] <gotama> Hi!
[09:19] <atm0sph> tabs in place of spaces ok?
[09:19] <atm0sph> 	Option		"TwinView"	"true"
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> now, next line. In my setup, my primary monitor is on the left, the secondary is on the right. So I put Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" -- as in 'right of the primary monitor'.
[09:19] <atm0sph> oh it parses em
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: yeah.
[09:20] <atm0sph> k I'll want LEftOf then
[09:20] <gotama> Is there anything like pxeboot.tar.gz for xubuntu?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> next line, type Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True"
[09:21] <atm0sph> k got it
[09:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Madpilot, you there?
[09:21] <atm0sph> anything else?
[09:21] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, yes
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> now, the next line defines the screen resolutions of the monitors. Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024" -- adjust to your taste.
[09:22] <atm0sph> k does it list left to right or primary, secondary
[09:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Madpilot: Im trying to have the launcher link to a Compiz toggle script
[09:22] <sethk> gotama, pxeboot is the same for any flavor of ubuntu (or of linux, for that matter)
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: I believe primary,secondary
[09:22] <atm0sph> k done.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: there is a nice applet that does that at compiz.net forums.
[09:23] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, OK, put the name or path to the script in the "Command" line, and whatever you like in the other slots. Ignore the Advanced tab.
[09:23] <atm0sph> do I have to create any subsections or anything for this, or is this just going to be what takes effect and the subsections wont matter?
[09:23] <gotama> In what part of the setup I tell pxeboot that must install xubuntu?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> okay, next two are really self explanatory. Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "24.0 - 80.0" and Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0", obviously, change to match your setup.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: no, subsections don't matter. just add it before the DefaultDepth 24 line.
[09:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, thanks alot again!
[09:25] <zithowa> i would like to install ubuntu instead of my current distro (fedora).  what's the best way to back up the contents of that install so I don't lose anything?
[09:25] <zithowa> just copy the root?
[09:25] <atm0sph> uhmm
[09:25] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: here is mine for reference > http://pastebin.com/774625
[09:25] <atm0sph> pardon my ignorance, but in Windows it just sets it to 75 hz...  I don't know the horizontal / verticle stuff
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: look it up, you don't want to guess this part. Just google your monitor's model number.
[09:26] <grigora> does anyone know how to make Banshee use lame and how to make it import wav files? thanks
[09:26] <Geoffrey2> my external mouse has just frozen for the umpteenth time...can anyone help me troubleshoot why that is happening?
[09:26] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:26] <atm0sph> this is for the secondary monitor right?
[09:26] <atm0sph> how do I define it for the primary?
[09:26] <atm0sph> Option "FirstMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0"
[09:26] <atm0sph> ?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> for the primary you define it in Section "Monitor"
[09:27] <atm0sph> ok
[09:27] <atm0sph> uhmm
[09:27] <atm0sph> also, I have NO idea what my secondary monitor is re: model number
[09:27] <atm0sph> it's a crappy dell 14 inch my buddy gave me
[09:27] <atm0sph> lets wing it and see what happens ;)
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: ermm, lets not.
[09:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> guys, whats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?
[09:28] <atm0sph> heh ok.. uhmm.. hmm
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: updated xorg snippet > http://pastebin.com/774627
[09:28] <masterchief> need help! please, im very desperate right now.
[09:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> whats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: I believe 16x16
[09:28] <grigora> anyone knows how to get Banshee to use lame?
[09:28] <Anubuntu> how do I uninstall evolution (since I use thunderbird) and does anything else rely on it?
[09:29] <SeeDe> does anyone here connect to ubuntu through VNC? and what does it look like?
[09:29] <masterchief> any of u reading dis?
[09:29] <cfedde> SeeDe: works well for me.
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: look in the back of the monitor, it will tell you the model number. Then google the model number to get the specs. If you 'wing it' you might end up frying the monitor.
[09:29] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: thanks :)
[09:29] <atm0sph> haha ok
[09:29] <atm0sph> gimmie a few
[09:30] <bilss_> hi
[09:30] <SeeDe> cfedde: what OS are you connecting from?
[09:30] <cfedde> SeeDe: ultravnc on windows XP, also ubuntu to ubuntu just for testing.
[09:30] <cfedde> and the other way too.
[09:31] <masterchief> fyrestrtr, dont blame me because i never used ubuntu before
[09:31] <atm0sph> well what do you know
[09:31] <atm0sph> it was there
[09:31] <atm0sph> sec
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: I'm not blaming you for anything?
[09:31] <bilss_>   I have a
[09:31] <bilss_> lex1user (uid:1000 gid:1000)
[09:31] <SeeDe> cfedde: mmmmm. do you need to forward to an X server or anything on windows or does ultravnc just work by itself?
[09:31] <SeeDe> im trying to connect from OSX
[09:31] <masterchief> i already check d directory..its there but once i try its says its not a directory
[09:32] <bilss_> need to delete /home/lex
[09:32] <masterchief> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[09:32] <masterchief> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:32] <masterchief> WARNING: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is not a directory.
[09:32] <masterchief> see
[09:32] <atm0sph> Fyre: http://pastebin.com/774629
[09:33] <DanaG> Aaaargh, I can't get any visualizations working in Amarok.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:33] <masterchief> i already tried wiyh and without the plugin
[09:33] <atm0sph> furestrtr: what do you get form this though...  this is my primary - I figure I might as well set it up seeings how we're here..  : http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/Panasonic_PanaSync_E70i__5393029
[09:34] <DanaG> Has ANYONE gotten Amarok visualizations to work?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: that looks okay. Now save the file, and restart X. To restart X, close all applications and logout till you get to the login screen. Then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:35] <bilss_> fyrestrtr:  I have a
[09:35] <bilss_> lex user (uid:1000 gid:1000)   The homedir is wrong and the uid
[09:35] <bilss_> should be under 1000 for system generated accounts.
[09:35] <atm0sph> k - I'll be back in a sec
[09:36] <SeeDe> anyone else access ubuntu through VNC?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: okay.
[09:36] <ucordes> my vmware display stays black when i try to run it in XGL. anybody else had that problem?
[09:36] <atm0sph_> hey fyrestrtr - now I'm on the OTHER monitor, but it's still single... it's like it just changed which one my primary was
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: xgl will not work properly on vmware.
[09:36] <DanaG> No, I think his CLIENT is not working, and the host is XGL.
[09:36] <masterchief> masterchief@masterchief-laptop:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:36] <masterchief> Reading package lists... Done
[09:36] <masterchief> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:36] <masterchief> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:37] <masterchief> ?
[09:37] <KrakensDen> masterchief, did you enable universe/multiverse?
[09:37] <masterchief> ? wht is that
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: enable the universe and multiverse repositories. As I told you, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -- all instructions are there to get this going.
[09:37] <ucordes> fyrestrtr: it did work wonderful before. only thing didn't work was fulscreen
[09:37] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr:  all i can find mine is it's a diamond view 50-60z. I cant seem to find much else on google apart from winddows drivers, any ideas?
[09:37] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: need to Delete the lexuser (userdel lex)
[09:37] <bilss_> Delete the lex group (groupdel lex)
[09:37] <bilss_> Check the /etc/passwd file and make sure there are no entries for
[09:37] <bilss_>  lex.
[09:38] <duckdown> Hey all.   Let's say I have 3 tabs in gnome-terminal open at once (I would be willing to use another terminal) and I want to execute a command at the same time in all 3 tabs..  Like I would type the command but not press enter on all 3 windows.  Then, is there a way to send the ENTER command at once for all of them without having to switch tabs?  (like a mass enter )
[09:38] <ucordes> right. my host is xgl and guest is win2k
[09:38] <kapheroph> fyrstrtr: er...on the sync and refresh options...
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: eh, xgl is experimental stuff, might want to check with #xgl
[09:39] <atm0sph> kahperoph: you looking for your refresh rates for your monitor?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: what brand is it again?
[09:39] <NickGarvey> or.. #ubuntu-xgl
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: okay, I don't understand your question?
[09:40] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: it's a diamond view
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: diamond view ____ ?
[09:40] <kapheroph> atm0sph: yes
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: look at the back and get the exact model number.
[09:40] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: i will be back later
[09:41] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: 1554e
[09:41] <atm0sph> kkapheroph: do you have a bunch of numbers on the back of your monitor?  I just had to pull mine out..  it was labelled as "Model Number", and what you're looking for are the "Specifications"
[09:42] <kapheroph> atm0sph: cheers i just forgot to put that bit in.......
[09:43] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr: I see you're all over the place with the support..  just wanna make sure you saw my text re: no dual monitors
[09:43] <trygg> Heh, how can i edit the icons for all the mime-types?
[09:47] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: nevermind i found it, sorry i should have looked harder since you are rather busy
[09:49] <atm0sph> brb
[09:49] <atmOsph> restarting X
[09:50] <atm0sph> hmmm
[09:50] <atm0sph> no dice - still only on one monitor...
[09:50] <atm0sph> w/b
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> so what's the story with the dual monitors?
[09:50] <atm0sph> well
[09:50] <atm0sph> everything went to the left monitor now
[09:50] <atm0sph> and the right monitor went out
[09:50] <atm0sph> so
[09:50] <atm0sph> I thogut maybe they both need to be the same resolution
[09:50] <ompaul> !enter
[09:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:51] <kapheroph> just about to restart x
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> I've been working on dual monitors for 3 months.. Still nothing for me either.
[09:51] <atm0sph> so I changed it both to 1152x864, and it changed the resolution, but no go on the dual displays...
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: check your xorg against mine @ http://pastebin.com/774627 if you are missing any lines, or there are any typos, correct them, and try again. When you restart your computer, do you get the same display on both screens?
[09:52] <atm0sph> I do get the same on both screens when I reboot
[09:52] <atm0sph> or if I ctrl-alt-f1 to my bitchx session
[09:52] <atmOsph> see when I'm here I get botch screens cloned
[09:52] <atm0sph> here in x, no .. just one
[09:53] <Vancouver_Rocks> Hi, Can i share my hard drive and printer? ubuntu is on my desktop, i have a wirless router and shre internet for my leptop throgh wirless
[09:53] <Vancouver_Rocks> can i browse files like i do on xp?
[09:53] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Ok, ive installed XGL and Compiz, do i have to manually configure what effects i want to happen when i enable compiz?
[09:54] <ompaul> atm0sph, please put all your comments on one line, and do not use the enter key in place of a comma, thanks - it makes it easier for others to use the channel
[09:54] <atm0sph> sorry - will do ompaul
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:54] <LMJ_Work> I have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?
[09:54] <bezibaerchen> what can i do bout the following: updatemanager is signaling udates. i open it and selsect to install the updates, what it does, is to look for updates again. on shell it works
[09:55] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr: The only line you have that I don't is Option "CoolBits" "1"
[09:56] <blendd> hi all, im having a problem with the microphone detection... actually i have no clue what it is, the mic seems active and all but when i try to use VOIP softwares, it just doesnt detect it... any1 knows how to fix that?
[09:56] <blendd> same problem with SKype or Ekiga
[09:57] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, when update manager signals updates, normally you give it the password, it then creates a list of possible updates, then you install and then it checks again
[09:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yeah, theres basically noone answering questions in ubuntu-xgl
[09:58] <ompaul> blendd, click on the speaker icon top right of your desktop, choose capture and make sure the mic is not muted (a red x)
[09:59] <blendd> ompaul did it... just not working :s
[09:59] <Vancouver_Rocks> Can i make a network between Windows and ubuntu to share files and printer? i share internet through wirless router
[09:59] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: well, i know how it normally SHOULD work. atm it works as u described, with the problem, that the installation-step is missing
[09:59] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, well it is not in the base disto so it falls outside of the support for this channel as it is beta software, it is very energy intensive if it does not work out of the box, all I can do for you is this
[10:00] <ompaul> !xgl > ISOLATEDViRuS
[10:00] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, please read the message from the bot
[10:00] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, what is it offering to update?
[10:00] <atm0sph> on this tutorial here Fyrestrtr, it says to unplug the monitor while configuring..  is that neccessary in your opinion?
[10:00] <atm0sph> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:01] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, you can, the guides on the wiki are probably the best thing to follow...
[10:01] <Vancouver_Rocks> can u pls tell me the link?
[10:01] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, just a moment
[10:01] <Vancouver_Rocks> thanks
[10:02] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:02] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:02] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: thank you very much for your help!
[10:02] <ompaul> blendd, you can try the command line tool, >> alsamixer << and make sure nothing else is muted much more detail, (you can get this by playing around with the "edit/preferences" on the gui
[10:03] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, probably best if you take a look at all thats on the wiki, because there are a few guides on how to do different things.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  http://help.ubuntu.com/ may also help.. just do a search for what you want
[10:03] <manopulus> hello, /usr/lib/i586 show owner as ? and i do not have permissions to change. eve as root. it is after reboot, i think, my disk died. some files and directories in /usr/lib/ is in this state. how i can resolve issue fast? and how can check disk for integirity?
[10:03] <abaddon> okay I have a question regarding installing using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick and it doesn't boot. I am running from an thinkpad x60 so I can't use a cd. When I try to boot I get to a point and it says linux not found boot: or something to that extent. Can anyone help me? I have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg 
[10:03] <abaddon> Reply With Quote
[10:03] <blendd> ompaul thanks mate i will try stuff now
[10:03] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:03] <MatthewV> manmadha, for graphics programs, maybe start by looking at Applications --> Add/Remove... and the graphics section
[10:04] <Vancouver_Rocks> Thanks Matthew
[10:04] <MatthewV> manmadha, please don't repeat yourself a few times a minute... it won't get you help any faster
[10:04] <NickGarvey> how do you run vim scripts?
[10:04] <manmadha> k
[10:04] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, no problem... if you run into a specific problem that you can't find a solution to, just ask around here :)
[10:04] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: several mesa-stuff
[10:05] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr hmm no go..  :(  do you think it's because the monitors have different refresh rates?
[10:05] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, did you alter your sources recently?
[10:05] <root_> hi all.. i need help. my pc will only start up X in recovery mode
[10:05] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: nope
[10:05] <atm0sph> I was ready and it said TwinView basically emulates one monitor on both Heads of the vid-card, so X thinks it's just a wide display..  I could see refresh rate becoming a problem in that regard.. no?
[10:06] <root_> i tryed upgrading | degrading the xserver-xorg-core but it didnt help
[10:06] <kapheroph> atm0sph: mines is working a treat :) i had to tweak around with the resolution a couple of times though
[10:06] <root_> my pc just freezed.
[10:06] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, try this, sudo apt-get update on the command line with icon closed, then start again
[10:07] <atm0sph> can I see your xorg.conf file kapheroph?  in a /msg perhaps?
[10:07] <MatthewV> atm0sph, when using xinerama (i think that twinview works the same way) both monitors must operate at the same res and, i think, refresh rate
[10:07] <abaddon> can anyone help me with usb install of ubuntu?
[10:07] <knurg> is it possible to get an tray-icon for x-chat gnome in xfce?
[10:08] <atm0sph> matthewV: Yeah that's why I think IU have a problem - my monitors are a 17 inch that and a 14 inch, but they run different refresh rates, so I'm wondering if that's causing it to fail..  It's weird because it moved from my Primary display over to my secondary display, but it shut off my primary..
[10:08] <manmadha> !CG
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <MatthewV> atm0sph, I'm using a 17" and 15" running from two seperate cards.. and that was one thing i came accross when setting up, that both need the same res
[10:08] <atm0sph> I changed em both to the same res though...
[10:09] <MatthewV> atm0sph, i think that when it changes the display over like that, it usually means that it can't output to the first..
[10:10] <MatthewV> atm0sph, you following a guide at all?
[10:10] <atm0sph> hmm..
[10:10] <atm0sph> naw fyrestrtr was helping me out.. I've basically got all my configuration stuff done..  it's just not working
[10:10] <atm0sph> and now I have another problem..  my xchat window has moved higher than I can reach and it's offscreen - there a fix for that?
[10:10] <atm0sph> besides restarting x?
[10:11] <MatthewV> atm0sph, oh i was going to say a guide like might help, and maximising the xchat window from the taskbar might help
[10:11] <kintaro0e> hi guys..i'm just confused with .bashrc and .bash_profile whats the difference?
[10:11] <MatthewV> atm0sph, maybe somethign like http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[10:12] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: doesn't work either
[10:12] <kapheroph> atm0sph: sure hang a sec
[10:12] <Seveas> kintaro0e, bash_profile is only executed for login shells and usually calls .bashrc
[10:13] <Seveas> non-login shells merely use .bashrc
[10:13] <jarrod_> how do i download smp kernel
[10:13] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, something be broken, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic
[10:13] <kintaro0e> Seveas what do you mean non-login?
[10:13] <abaddon> can anyone please help me with a usb install of ubuntu?
[10:13] <kintaro0e> :)
[10:13] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: dude, apt-get upgrade on shell works
[10:13] <bezibaerchen> only grafical stuff doesn't
[10:13] <jarrod_> i seem to just be able to get 2.4.
[10:13] <Flannel> abaddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  will give you details
[10:14] <jarrod_> 2.4.27
[10:14] <abaddon> rihgt I looked htere
[10:14] <abaddon> and I need more help
[10:14] <abaddon> I followed the instructoins
[10:14] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, read that last one again
[10:14] <abaddon> it boots to syslinux
[10:14] <ompaul> !enter
[10:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:14] <jarrod_> how do i get and install smp kernel
[10:15] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: no changes after reconfigure
[10:15] <Flannel> abaddon: what problems you having then?
[10:16] <abaddon> Flannel: sorry, I guess I just got exicted from a responce, I get a message that says linux not found boot: and anything I enter doesn't do anyhting
[10:16] <Flannel> abaddon: how far have you gotten? (and which page?)
[10:16] <jarrod_> hello
[10:16] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, well update from the command line - then go sit back and wait on the next one from the gui if still broken uninstall synaptic and reinstall it
[10:16] <abaddon> I have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg I am pretty sure my laptop supports usb booting and so does my thumb drive it is formatted fat16 and is about a gig. thanks
[10:16] <abaddon> Reply With Quote
[10:16] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: it IS the 2nd where gui doesn't work
[10:17] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest kernel cant seem to get it out of the repositories
[10:18] <fdsd> Hey guys, what is the differnece between apt-get remove --purge app or just plain apt-get remove app?
[10:18] <Flannel> abaddon: So, youre installing ubuntu from a thumbdrive?
[10:18] <Flannel> fdsd: --purge removes config files
[10:18] <fdsd> Flannel, oh cool
[10:18] <ompaul> jarrod_,  this is what you want - sudo apt-get install >> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7-smp or kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[10:18] <abaddon> flannel: I would like to
[10:18] <Flannel> fdsd: (the equivalent of "complete removal" vs "remove" in synaptic)
[10:18] <kapheroph> atm0ph: can you pm me for it?
[10:18] <fdsd> Flannel, ok
[10:18] <kapheroph> atm0sph: can you pm me for it?
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, well I am at a lose as you are the only person reporting such an issue it is beyond my personal kb on other ways to approach that as an issue
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, make that loss
[10:19] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: reinstall synaptic?
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I already said that eariler
[10:20] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: with which command?
[10:20] <ompaul> !reinstall
[10:20] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[10:20] <manmadha> Matthai,
[10:21] <abaddon> Flannel: I'm on an thinkpad x60 and thought usb would be the easiest non cd install, interms of the install instructions for usb drives I am between editing syslinux.cfg and booting from the falsh drive
[10:21] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, before you do stick your /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to have a look at
[10:21] <manmadha> Matthai, he my cc compiler does not recognice graphics.h.....etc header files
[10:22] <Flannel> abaddon: so, You aren't successfully booting to syslinux then?
[10:22] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux?
[10:22] <Deaigo> can someone tell me how i can get a external hdd(fat32) to pretty much be chmod 777?
[10:23] <abaddon> flannel: I am my thumb drive is booting and I get to a menu that says boot:
[10:23] <Madpilot> manmadha, the Gimp, which is like Photoshop, is installed by default - Inkscape is worth exploring too, it's a great graphics app
[10:23] <Smeggy> how much space is occupied by a default ubuntu install?
[10:24] <manmadha> Madpilot, no i want to do programs.......(in c)
[10:24] <atm0sph> hmm well no go.
[10:24] <atm0sph> back to one monitor I suppose.
[10:24] <Flannel> abaddon: and you copied the contents of the ISO?
[10:24] <LMJ_Work> Deaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 777
[10:24] <abaddon> flannel: yes
[10:24] <knurg> i have installed easy-ubuntu, but nvidia driver doesnt seem to be running after reboot
[10:24] <z3r0> #irc
[10:25] <jarrod_> hello
[10:25] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:26] <Flannel> abaddon: Only thing I can think of to suggest is try the steps after the first again, re-copy everything, rename everything, etc.  make sure you reduce paths correctly and such.
[10:26] <Deaigo> LMJ_Work so where do i go to change this?
[10:26] <abaddon> flannel: I already did that about 4 times with no luck trying different things
[10:26] <LMJ_Work> manmadha : check The Gimp, Scribus, Inkscape, autotrace, Wings3D, cinepaint, vips
[10:27] <manmadha> any one know how to do graphics problems using 'C'
[10:27] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:27] <manmadha> LMJ_Work, they support programming?
[10:27] <SpaceFrog> Urgent help needed... My Girlfriend's ubuntu computer just screwed up. Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.ca/147272
[10:27] <SpaceFrog> It won't boot into X
[10:27] <Flannel> abaddon: heh, Um, I don't know then.  You might try checking out syslinux's documentation
[10:27] <Smeggy> hmm
[10:28] <Smeggy> atm0sph, what's the problem with twinview?
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: whats the error you get?
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> no screens found
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: see topic
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> it was working earlier today, nothing had been changed that i know of.
[10:28] <trygg> Anyone know how to edit the icons for all the mime-types?
[10:28] <Madpilot> SpaceFrog, there was an X update
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: you updated to a bad X package (or rebooted after updating to it)
[10:28] <manopulus> how with apt-get i can re-install all installed packages?
[10:28] <abaddon> flannel: doesn't seem like a syslinux problem though because I do get to boot: I will ook into it
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> ahh, i see. Thankyou
[10:28] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: just tried to approach the prob form another side. did a "gksudo update-manager" to see some output. afer choosing to install the updates, message is "/usr/sbin/synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", libvte4 is installed
[10:28] <LMJ_Work> About graphics manmadha :  http://www.ucc.fr/forums/index.php/topic,21.0.html    or www.ucc.fr
[10:29] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:29] <manmadha> LMJ_Work, thank u
[10:29] <Flannel> jarrod_: you're on breezy?
[10:29] <atm0sph> smeggy: it won't work..  when I configure it according to specs it moves everything to my secondary monitor (on the left), but disables my primary monitor...  no dual displays
[10:29] <jarrod_> on dapper
[10:29] <jarrod_> flannel: on dapper
[10:29] <Flannel> jarrod_: what do you want to update to?
[10:30] <Smeggy> atm0sph, can you put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?
[10:30] <jarrod_> any smp kernel
[10:30] <jarrod_> i am using 2.6 something and not smp i want to use my dual core
[10:30] <atm0sph> yeah one sec smeggy
[10:30] <jarrod_> 2.4 crashes on boot
[10:31] <atm0sph> Smeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21529
[10:31] <jarrod_> not sure why i downgraded
[10:31] <atm0sph> I have it commented out right now so I can use my primary monitor ..  it's a 17inch..  without those commented lines under the screen section everything moves over to my 15 inch which is to the left
[10:31] <LMJ_Work> in /etc/fstab   maybe check http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)
[10:32] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, have you installed  xgl or some such?
[10:32] <Flannel> jarrod_: the 2.4 kernels are in universe, that's most likely why theyre crashing
[10:32] <smelly_sox> linux-image-2.6.15.16-26-686 contains SMP support
[10:33] <jarrod_> i show just one cpu
[10:33] <jarrod_> how do i get that linux image
[10:33] <smelly_sox> synaptic
[10:33] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: nafaik, dpkg -l | grep -i xgl doesn't match anything
[10:33] <abaddon> Flannel: can you refer me to anyone or anything specific? regarding my usb issues
[10:34] <jarrod_> it doesnt show up in synaptic
[10:34] <atm0sph> smeggy: any ideas?
[10:34] <Smeggy> atm0sph, try moving the twinview options into the device section and adding Option "NVreg_SoftEDID" "true"
[10:34] <smelly_sox> search for SMP using 'Name and Description"
[10:34] <jarrod_> ok
[10:35] <atm0sph> all the twinview options
[10:35] <atm0sph> smeggy: as in everything that's commented out?
[10:35] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes.
[10:36] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: i can't start synaptic, that seems the problem. if i try, i also get the libvte-error
[10:36] <jarrod_> thank you
[10:36] <jarrod_> i am an idiot i was looking up kernel not linux image
[10:36] <jarrod_> thanks alot
[10:36] <Jokeur> hello/ salut tlm/everybody is this chat only in english or french too ?
[10:37] <atm0sph> smeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21530
[10:37] <smelly_sox> cheers jarrod
[10:37] <smelly_sox> my sox stink
[10:37] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes.
[10:37] <SpaceFrog> Thanks for your help, guys. X is working again.
[10:37] <Flannel> Jokeur: english only, for french, #ubuntu-fr
[10:38] <atm0sph> brb
[10:38] <Aliexzi> exit
[10:38] <Jokeur> Flannel:  on this server ?
[10:38] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: it is the latest update from the quinn repos which have broken synaptic
[10:38] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, give me a monent
[10:38] <abaddon> peace out
[10:38] <Flannel> Jokeur: right
[10:38] <bezibaerchen> i've only got libvte.so.9, but not libvte.so.4
[10:39] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: read my above comment
[10:39] <Jokeur> Flannel: thank you very much :)
[10:39] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: how is the url of quinn repos? dunno, whether i use them
[10:39] <atm0sph> smeggy: so no go ..  hmm..
[10:39] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, "ln -s libvte.so.9 libvte.so.4" in the directory where .9 exists
[10:39] <Smeggy> atm0sph, did it do anything different?
[10:39] <knurg> how does one get the nvidia driver to run? ive installed easy-ubuntu
[10:39] <atm0sph> everything went back to the left monitor
[10:39] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I think sudo will be in order
[10:39] <Smeggy> hmm
[10:39] <atm0sph> then my right monitor just went into standbye
[10:39] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: they are the compiz/xgl repos
[10:40] <smelly_sox> bye all
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: thats what i was thinking about, wasn't sure, but i trust you :-)
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, trying giving it the actaul modes for the second monitor instead of relying on the display id data?
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: got no compiz/xgl
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> i'll try linking
[10:40] <atm0sph> smeggy: the refresh you mean?
[10:40] <Jokeur> good bye everybody have a good day
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, that would also mean removing the 'useedidfreqs' option.
[10:40] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, did you ever try to install it?
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes the refresh rates.
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: don't think so
[10:41] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: do you have the compiz or beerorkid repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:41] <atm0sph> smeggy: I did that originally and it didn't work either..  that's why I set it to the auto setting..  I can't find the modes for my primary monitor, and considering that TwinView emulates both monitors as ONE output, I assumed they had to be equal..  so by default they'll go to 60 hz if I'm not mistaken.
[10:41] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, the presence of repos other than the "offical ones can lead to breakages" and as you are seeing not nice ones
[10:41] <atm0sph> in all honesty I'm kind of tired of fiddling with it.. I'm gonna change it back to my bigger monitor and go play some pokerstars.. :)
[10:41] <atm0sph> I appreciate your help though guys - hasta maniata
[10:41] <octan> !!nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I have a phrase for these things, bringing the reliablity of windows to linux }:->
[10:42] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: yeah, beerorkid matched, was addes by automatix. so no symbolic linking, just kicking berrorkid and do upgrade?
[10:42] <bezibaerchen> or is symbolic linking still needed?
[10:43] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, when automatix is involved you can't tell what it has done (you can ask in #automatix) it is not supported here
[10:44] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: well, it seems that beerorkid was added by automatix
[10:44] <ompaul> !automatix
[10:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:44] <Smeggy> So, can someone tell me how much space a default Ubuntu install takes?
[10:44] <MatthewV> Smeggy, a couple of gig...
[10:45] <ompaul> Smeggy, you really want to have a minimum of 5 gigs to make andy use of it, but I give it complete machines with the smallest I support bring 9gig scsi
[10:46] <Smeggy> Hmm, I want to put Ubuntu on my ibook and I can only spare 5gig, is that going to be enough?
[10:46] <DarkRain> I transfered a bunch of directories from windows, and it left a thumbs.db in every directory, can someone give me a terminal command that will search and remove all of them?
[10:46] <ompaul> Smeggy, not for getting good use out of it you really should give it a bit more
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes, but you won't have a lot of room to expand :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ompaul: the libcte bug looks fixed or it was never an issue for me i just did updates today after yesterdays updates for compiz
[10:47] <Smeggy> ompaul, Ubuntu can read hfs+ though, so I should be able to access my media from my mac os partition?
[10:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your an edgy person at the best of times
[10:47] <gnomefreak> im on dapper atm :)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes, you can
[10:47] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: fyi: symbolic linking did the trick
[10:47] <Smeggy> cheers guys :)
[10:47] <bezibaerchen> thx for help
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: you will need an fstab line
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ack in edgy yet
[10:47] <manopulus> please someone tell - how with apt-get i can reinstall all packages in system
[10:48] <paulhoward> Morning all - I need help!!  need to enable desktop sharing but I'm at work and all i can do is ssh into my machine - is there any way of enabling it from the CLI?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> manopulus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[10:48] <ompaul> Smeggy, for this reason ( thoreauputic answersing - you would be better asking the channel I don't run apple hardware )
[10:48] <Smeggy> :) thanks
[10:49] <ompaul> !vnc
[10:49] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[10:49] <ompaul> paulhoward, ^^^
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: I hve this line ( yours will vary according to where your mac stuff lives)
[10:49] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda3       /media/macosx  hfsplus  users,noauto  0     0
[10:49] <paulhoward> yeah I  know how to do it with port forwarding I just forgot to enable the desktop sharing before I left for work
[10:49] <Smeggy> excellent, thanks thoreauputic
[10:49] <Smeggy> do you run ubuntu on a mac thoreauputic?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: if you want it to mount on boot you would use "auto" instead of "noauto"
[10:50] <rast4> anyone hear anything about a laptop/pc crashing while streaming media via Samba shares?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes I have an iBook G4 running 6.06
[10:50] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, how's your battery life compared to osx?
[10:50] <GMachine_24> rast4: no, but what kind of media, what programs, etc.?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: about the same - I  get 5 hours in light use with the screen dimmed a bit, and around 4 hours in heavier use
[10:51] <rast4> Gmachine: I logged into my mp3 server, used Totem and it crashed twice
[10:51] <GMachine_24> jeeezus it's 5 a.m. and i'm listening to ranchero music..........
[10:51] <rast4> I can't get XMMS to open the location of the Server
[10:51] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:52] <darksoul> !ATI
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <argument> hi, i've been looking on freshmeat and google for a while now but I can't find a good utility to update ID3 tags based on filename. anyone know of one? basically i have the track numbers in my file names but not my id3 tags... :( i tried the "id3 mass changer" tool and id3ren but neither one has produced satisfactory results after consulting the man pages for many hours.
[10:52] <darksoul> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !ati > darksoul
[10:52] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, cool :)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: but I don't do heavy stuff on the iBook much - except the occasional compiling
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: Ubuntu is more responsive than MAc OS-X - and I rarely use Os-X
[10:53] <GMachine_24> rast4: but are you really using samba to share these files?
[10:53] <rast4> Gmachine: that's how I have it set up, I open Network Places, click my workgroup, click my computer I want to access, and go from there
[10:53] <rast4> so I would say yes
[10:53] <GMachine_24> rast4: ok.
[10:54] <GMachine_24> rast4: hang on a second....
[10:54] <rast4> each respective drive has SMB on it and they are configured via Samba
[10:54] <rast4> sure
 Deaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 777
[10:54] <Deaigo> where do i loom to find those options?
[10:54] <Deaigo> look*
[10:54] <Flannel> Deaigo, LMJ_Work, change the umask
[10:54] <argument> what's the best way to install KDE ?
[10:55] <argument> is there a metapackage that provides the main system?
[10:55] <MatthewV> argument, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <Deaigo> Flannel i am a total noob
[10:55] <Deaigo> where do i go to change that?
[10:56] <rast4> Gmachine: Hell dude, it just crashed just browsing a server heh, didn't even stream anything
[10:56] <fyyrest0rm> can someone please tell me whats wrong with this line? I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ..... /dev/hdb1   /home/storm/hdb1   ext3   defaults,umask=007,noatime 0 0
[10:56] <argument> MatthewV, thx
[10:56] <rast4> MatthewV: What's up Grub-fixer ;)
[10:57] <GMachine_24> rast4: yeah, i don't think streaming media is your problem. i just connected to my music server and can play songs using totem fine. xmms doesn't seem to want to work.
[10:57] <rast4> yeah something is up
[10:57] <MatthewV> hi rast4 ... not a whole lot is up, but if you want to just chat.. the correct place is #ubuntu-offtopic... ;) sorry.. just that this is a support channel :) or #ubuntu-au.. :)
[10:57] <rast4> I JUST got Samba working FINALLY too
[10:57] <rast4> Matthewv: gotcha
[10:58] <GMachine_24> rast4: i would suggest checking your samba.conf file to make sure everything is configured ok.
[10:58] <rast4> yeah let me do another testparm when it comes up again
[10:58] <hush`afk> my linux has been acting screwy so i booted to winxp and went to ubuntu.com and low and behold i see a bright green headline warning me of the issue and how to fix it - yay!
[10:58] <rast4> it's forcing me to fcsk after each crash :(
[10:58] <GMachine_24> rast4: you could always buy a new computer. :)
[10:59] <rast4> I have nearly a dozen. I own a computer business ;)
[10:59] <rast4> this is laptop #3 with Ubuntu
[10:59] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <Deaigo> /dev/sda1	/media/external	vfat	iocharset=utf8,umask=000	0	0
[10:59] <rast4> HP Pavilion ZD7005QV 17" Widescreen
[10:59] <Deaigo> does that look correct?
[10:59] <GMachine_24> rast4: actually, i use 'slimserver' software as my interface between my pcs and my music server.
[10:59] <rast4> I guess talk in offtopic chan
[10:59] <rast4> bah
[10:59] <rast4> let me msg you
[10:59] <rast4> i wanna hear about that
[11:00] <GMachine_24> rast4: but slimserver doesn't install well on ubuntu.
[11:01] <gary4gar> hi
[11:01] <KenSentMe> hi
[11:01] <gary4gar> all
[11:01] <pabz> hi
[11:01] <mairena> hi
[11:01] <gary4gar> there is no oops there
[11:02] <gary4gar> ops
[11:02] <pabz> helo mai
[11:02] <mneptok> 'allo users
[11:02] <gnomefreak> gary4gar: no ops where?
[11:03] <pabz> hi
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:03] <gary4gar> now its ok
[11:03] <mneptok> ooo! an active +o!
[11:03] <ompaul> gary4gar, don't ever say that
[11:03] <gary4gar> o.k
[11:03] <NickGarvey> 4 of them
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ask and you shall recieve
[11:03] <mneptok> gnomefreak: let me fetch a URL for the /topic. sec ...
[11:03] <pabz> pp
[11:04] <gary4gar> i understand that u can't trust strangers
[11:04] <scapor> Is there a fix for fglrx on Edgy ?  There seems to be an ABI mismatch between the driver and the Xserver.
[11:04] <gary4gar> like me
[11:04] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:04] <gnomefreak> we can take the X issue out of topic now its been on the servers for a few days
[11:04] <mneptok> can someone /topic this, please - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ResolutionForBug57153
[11:04] <pabz> hi
[11:04] <ompaul> gnomefreak, go for it
[11:04] <gnomefreak> scapor: try in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <ryctor> #ubuntu is the most populated channel in freenode, second by #gentoo and #debian
[11:05] <ryctor> 812 users
[11:05] <ryctor> ##linux in #8 with 370
[11:05] <mneptok> ryctor: that's only the channels you can see. the +s channels may have more people.
[11:05] <MatthewV> ryctor, maybe things like that would be best in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[11:06] <Blinker> mornin' room
[11:06] <bbrazil> gnomefreak: comma after channel?
[11:06] <DesertEagle7> Blinker, hello ;-)
[11:06] <mneptok> gnomefreak: could you throw that URL i pasted into the /topic. despite the bug being old, and long fixed, we're still getting support queries about it. i'll try anything to stem the tide. :)
[11:07] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: are you still here
[11:07] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, did you install any laptop specific tools to get that kind of battery life? hd-spin down utils or anthing?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> mneptok: the issue is fixed there is no need for it
[11:07] <Blinker> so yeah, x server decided to stop working for me...
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: no
[11:07] <Blinker> think i could get the rebuild command from someone?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: tha't what I get out of the box
[11:08] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, excellent, thanks.  sorry to be a pest, haven't encountered any live ibook using ubuntu people to talk to yet and I plan on converting my laptop fully sometime soon :)
[11:08] <mneptok> gnomefreak: if you say so, but our RT queue says differently :)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: as i said though, that's with pretty light use ( text, a bit of music et)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> mneptok: 10.4 has been in repos for a few days
[11:08] <TANATHOS> hi
[11:08] <Blinker> !x
[11:08] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:09] <gnomefreak> mneptok: if 10.4 doesnt fix your issue than your issue isnt the same as that one
[11:09] <ryctor> so, we need to rethink everything we like to post and then see in which channel it goes and then join that channel and post the comment and then return?
[11:10] <mneptok> gnomefreak: the problem is that people don't update. especially after they have either been burned by an updated or have been spooked about updating after reading about issues.
[11:10] <bilss_> ompaul: morning
[11:10] <ompaul> bilss_, it is indeed :)
[11:10] <ryctor> That kind of filtering is objective and relative
[11:10] <gnomefreak> mneptok: the few people that are left with the issue we can tell to upgrade packages if they want it fixed. most people dont read the topic anyway
[11:11] <mneptok> gnomefreak: k, whatevah. :)
[11:12] <TANATHOS> need help in setting up a virtual domain
[11:12] <TANATHOS> someone ....anyone?
[11:13] <MatthewV> ryctor, no, I'm just saying that this is a support channel.. I'm not forcing you to go to offtopic, I'm just pointing out that that is not support material, and some ops don't like -offtopic stuff in here ;)
[11:13] <bilss_> ompaul: can you take a look at a patebin please?
[11:14] <DesertEagle7> ryctor, it's not worth arguing about, you'll surely end up being banned for repeated offtopic posts / arguing
[11:14] <ompaul> bilss_, url
[11:14] <KenSentMe> !anyone
[11:14] <KenSentMe> Hey ubotu's dead?
[11:14] <MatthewV> !ubotu
[11:14] <frogzoo> !wtf
[11:14] <Blinker> !x
[11:14] <MatthewV> KenSentMe, hmm... maybe
[11:15] <Blinker> fancy that
[11:15] <Madpilot> !ping
[11:15] <DesertEagle7> ubotu gets ddosed all the time
[11:15] <Blinker> can someone tell me the command to autoconfigure x server? mine crapped out on me saying no device found (it was working just fine before)
[11:15] <Madpilot> this channel functions very badly when the bot isn't here ;)
[11:16] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, na we got a new location for it
[11:16] <gnomefreak> im willing to bet Seveas is working on them
[11:16] <MatthewV> Blinker, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:16] <Blinker> thx
[11:16] <DesertEagle7> ompaul, really? I haven't been in here since winter, But I remember it getting ddosed constantly
[11:16] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I wish that as true
[11:16] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:16] <DesertEagle7> yay
[11:16] <MatthewV> Blinker, that will run through config options... otherwise X -configure will attempt to autodectect everything and make you an xorg.conf
[11:16] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, yeap it is not the bot in .nz
[11:17] <bilss_> ompaul: just a sec
[11:17] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, it has new internals
[11:17] <DesertEagle7> kewl
[11:17] <KenSentMe> !ping
[11:18] <Seveas> gnomefreak, colo provider is acting weird since yesterday
[11:18] <DesertEagle7> you guys need to get him on an oc-256 :-P
[11:18] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw that yesterday
[11:18] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i thought i crashed him yesterday :(
[11:19] <mrjoe> ciao a tutti
[11:19] <|DuReX|> hi guys, is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[11:19] <ompaul> blind, sorted passed it on
[11:20] <Blinker> bah. that didn't fix it...
[11:20] <TheFuzzball> hello, I need to play an AVI file, but kaffeine and all of my other players won't work, how do I play avi files?
[11:20] <shaantan1> try VLC
[11:20] <TheFuzzball> I have
[11:20] <Blinker> !easyubuntu
[11:20] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:20] <shaantan1> ur file might be corrupted
[11:20] <mneptok> TheFuzzball: try getting the DivX codec for Totem
[11:21] <DesertEagle7> TheFuzzball, tried xine?
[11:21] <Blinker> that should fix it, assuming you havent successfullyplayed avi's previously
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> yup
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> I haven't
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> and this one I am trying to play isn't corrupt, cause' I pulled another AVI off another comp that works fine in Windows but that didn't play
[11:22] <Blinker> ok, anyone know why X would come up with an error saying no device found?
[11:22] <ompaul> bilss_,  sorted passed it on
[11:22] <shaantan1> where do I get gnome VFS plugin
[11:22] <Quentusrex> Does anyone know of a good site that describes how to setup a reverse proxy with apache on Ubuntu?
[11:22] <MatthewV> Blinker, something is wrong in the configuration so that it cannot find a video card to output to
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !m4a
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ...
[11:22] <Quentusrex> I can find many for RHL, but Ubuntu has been configured differently.
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !.m4a
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> oh i hate you.
[11:23] <Blinker> MatthewV: it was working fine before, and the reconfig didnt help any
[11:23] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[11:23] <MatthewV> Blinker, what broke it?
[11:23] <mneptok> ISOLATEDViRuS: you want AAC support
[11:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> aac = .m4a?
[11:23] <MatthewV> ISOLATEDViRuS, maybe try what ubotu said, and search the site... or search the wiki
[11:23] <Blinker> spontaneous. nothing changed bymyhandsincethe last successful boots
[11:23] <Blinker> apologies for the dysfunctional spacebar
[11:24] <MatthewV> Blinker, nothing at all? no upgrades?
[11:24] <KenSentMe> Blinker: have you updated your system?
[11:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> who wants to explain how to get my .m4a files to work =D?
[11:24] <Blinker> actually now i think of it i did get an update a few days ago
[11:24] <shaantanu> where do I get gnome VFS plugin
[11:24] <KenSentMe> Blinker: update again
[11:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i already downloaded and installed the packages from the repositories for the restricted formats, and im using amaroK
[11:24] <KenSentMe> !xorgbug
[11:24] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:24] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: if you open the file in question in vlc, and do "View", "Stream and message info", if it says 'wmv3' then you might want to install mplayer
[11:24] <shaantanu> hi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin
[11:24] <gnomefreak> correct me if im wrong but if you "cat" a file that means its there correct?
[11:25] <shaantanu> !VFS
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <|DuReX|>  is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[11:25] <MatthewV> gnomefreak, i should think so.. :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> MatthewV: me to:(
[11:25] <laurens_s> gnomefreak: if you get output, yeah :)
[11:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i believe cat is used to view a file
[11:25] <shaantanu> ya
[11:26] <gnomefreak> sorry yeah meant to add the output word in there
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: it is
[11:26] <shaantanu> !vfs
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <e-type> hi all
[11:26] <ISOLATEDViRuS> gnomefreak: what packages do i need and from which repository to get .m4a to play?
[11:26] <MatthewV> shaantanu, gnome-vfs is installed by default, i believe, what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:26] <manopulus> what partition system is best for system ( / ) and for /home, need to provide a way to restore files and dirs on crash
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: not sure but i would try multiverse repo
[11:27] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, I already have mplayer
[11:27] <shaantanu> matthew : I m trying to config synce
[11:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, thats what i thought, because i used the guide in the wiki i believe it was, and installed all th packages it said to in order to have restricted files play
[11:28] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: is the file indeed a wmv3 file (see my vlc-remark?)
[11:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> some 7 or 8 files
[11:28] <e-type> I've been looking around for a while now, but don't find the reason: shutdown buttons have vanished from shutdown menu and gdm as well.
[11:28] <tarbomb> MatthewV: R u sure its there by default
[11:28] <e-type> anyone know where to fix this?
[11:28] <patientfox> does anyone know why when i try to load mp3s in rhythmbox i get a message telling me they arent audio streams?
[11:28] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, it's an AVI file
[11:29] <patientfox> is it because it ships w/o mp3 support?
[11:29] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, now wmv
[11:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> patientfox: you have to download the support from the multiverse repository
[11:29] <Madpilot> patientfox, have you installed mp3 support?
[11:29] <tarbomb> patientfox : try xmms player
[11:29] <MatthewV> tarbomb, well... if not you could install libgnome-vfs or the appropriate package
[11:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> xmms sucks, get amarok.
[11:29] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: i ment, what does it say if you open the file in vlc, click view and then 'stream and media info' ?
[11:29] <MatthewV> or gnome-vfs
[11:30] <tarbomb> hmm
[11:30] <patientfox> i have the multiverse repository
[11:30] <DesertEagle7> ISOLATEDViRuS, amarok is very good, but also hard on slower pc's so xmms is a good alternative some times..
[11:30] <patientfox> how i do install mp3 support from it?
[11:30] <MatthewV> patientfox, its becaues there is no mp3 support, see !restricted
[11:30] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: have you also installed the w32codecs?
[11:30] <patientfox> amarok is great, but kde sucks
[11:30] <MatthewV> !restricted
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <tarbomb> hi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin: do u have any idea abt synce ??
[11:30] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, yea
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> patientfox, do you want a walktrough? i did this like, a few hours ago
[11:31] <patientfox> please
[11:31] <patientfox> i already got the nonfree flash plugin
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> make a channel and message me the name of it
[11:31] <patientfox> arghhh damnit
[11:31] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: then I'm out of ideas, sorry :(
[11:31] <patientfox> i cant i gotta run... thanks for the offer though
[11:31] <Madpilot> patientfox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:31] <MatthewV> tarbomb, if you install a package from the repos it should pull all deps with it
[11:31] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, it's ok
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> k
[11:32] <tarbomb> matthew : hmm
[11:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS> good luck with it
[11:32] <tarbomb> lemme try
[11:32] <haler> hello everyone
[11:32] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: good luck
[11:32] <Deaigo> what do you set the umask to for say 766?
[11:34] <Gumby> can anyone tell me which file I would need to edit in order to have something start automagically when a user is logged in?  I know how to do it  within the gui, but I want to be able to edit a file manually this time.
[11:35] <tarbomb> MatthewV: cant find packages gnome-vfs or libgnome-vfs
[11:35] <DesertEagle7> Deaigo, I don't think you touch the umask for a permission setting?
[11:36] <laurens_s> tarbomb: have you tried sudo apt-get install libgnome-vfs-dev?
[11:36] <tarbomb> nope
[11:36] <lophyte> Gumby: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[11:36] <tarbomb> lemme try
[11:36] <Deaigo> i mean settigns for umask so it makes all files chmod 766
[11:36] <Gumby> lophyte: sorry, I meant a users session
[11:36] <lophyte> Gumby: erm, sorry.. I misunderstood
[11:36] <tarbomb> lauren : worked , thanx
[11:37] <lophyte> Gumby: I thought you meant auto-login :P
[11:37] <mneptok> Deaigo: you want to chmod all files to 766?
[11:37] <tarbomb> Deaigo:its risky
[11:37] <Deaigo> no
[11:37] <Deaigo> i want the umask settign to do that
[11:37] <Deaigo> trying to mount a fat32 hdd
[11:38] <Deaigo> the autmount isnt giving me what i want
[11:38] <mneptok> mounts inherit the perms of their mount points
[11:38] <tarbomb> mount - a should help
[11:38] <laurens_s> tarbomb: no problem, cool :) BTW: I found it by searching for packages using firefox searchbox, and picking 'ubuntu package search' - it revealed a -dev for libgnome-vfs
[11:38] <tarbomb> hmm
[11:38] <haler> what you guys think? i'm running ubuntu on a pentium II 266mhz with a 352mb ram. response is a bit slow. will adding memory help or is it the processor?
[11:38] <tarbomb> lauren:cool
[11:38] <laurens_s> tarbomb: a lot of packages have a -dev , if you're compiling something which requires the library
[11:38] <tarbomb> lauren : k, thanx for the info
[11:39] <laurens_s> tarbomb: welcome again :)
[11:39] <dggoldst> Hello all
[11:39] <mneptok> haler: i'd try Xubuntu
[11:40] <onispawn> anyone know if the xserver-xorg-core 10.4 safe to install?
[11:40] <mneptok> onispawn: it is
[11:40] <YveDeLarc> hi
[11:40] <onispawn> cool. thanks
[11:40] <Deaigo> nevermind i got it working
[11:40] <haler> ok mneptok
[11:41] <YveDeLarc> There are two sound interfaces in my system, onboard and SB Live. How can I force the sblive to be the default for output?
[11:41] <mneptok> haler: Xubuntu is designed for older hardware. XFCE is more lightweight than is GNOME.
[11:42] <mneptok> YveDeLarc: disable the on-board in the BIOS?
[11:42] <tarbomb> whenever I try uninstalling games from my ubuntu ... it tells me I have to remove the desktop package as well.... what does this mean ? shud i continue ?
[11:42] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: System, preferences, sound
[11:42] <YveDeLarc> mneptok, laurens_s: Thank you, will check.
[11:42] <mneptok> tarbomb: the games we include are part of the overall desktop package. it is NOT safe to uninstall the desktop metapackage (unless you want CLI only)
[11:43] <tarbomb> k
[11:44] <lophyte> Gumby: I'm not quite sure... I can't find it myself
[11:44] <valehru> Hey guys, can anyone help me get skype up and running alongside with xmms or beep media player?
[11:44] <erUSUL> !skype
[11:44] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:45] <bilss_> ompaul: http://pastebin.ca/147350
[11:45] <mneptok> !list pants
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <mneptok> no pants.
[11:45] <Quentusrex> does anyone have experience with an apache reverse proxy?
[11:45] <dggoldst> anybody handy with the command line?
[11:46] <lophyte> Gumby: I'm not sure how the GUI does it.. but I know you can add commands to ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile which will be executed on login
[11:46] <dggoldst> command line text filtering?
[11:46] <realist> Quentusrex: what do you need to know?
[11:46] <mneptok> dggoldst: grep
[11:46] <mneptok> (or awk, or sed ...)
[11:46] <dggoldst> ok, how do you return the nth column from a tab-delimited file
[11:46] <Quentusrex> I need to know how to setup apache to work as a reverse proxy so that users can access my two webservers as if they are the same server.
[11:47] <realist> dggoldst: man cut
[11:47] <dggoldst> yes!
[11:47] <Quentusrex> but I can't find much info on how to do this on ubuntu
[11:47] <realist> Quentusrex: install mod_proxy, and set up virtual hosts on your apache proxy
[11:47] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ping ?
[11:47] <Quentusrex> do you have a site with a tutorial?
[11:48] <realist> Quentusrex: no sorry, google?
[11:48] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: any luck yet? Is it working?
[11:48] <Quentusrex> tried.
[11:48] <Quentusrex> not much luck
[11:48] <thoreauputic> !seen ompaul
[11:48] <Quentusrex> think I might have found something just now
[11:48] <ubotu> ompaul is on IRC right now!
[11:48] <realist> Quentusrex: doesn't need to be ubuntu specific
[11:49] <Quentusrex> but haven't for the past 20 minutes
[11:49] <thoreauputic> yeah I thought so :)
[11:49] <Quentusrex> I've found a debian one.
[11:49] <realist> Quentusrex: that'll do :-)
[11:49] <realist> Just make sure you're running the right version of apache you need
[11:50] <shaantanu> any body knows how to access your Pocket PC device through Nautilus using the protocol synce:/// or otherwise ??
[11:51] <jujimufu> in apt's cache, there is a quake II. Is this the real game, or just a demo?
[11:51] <onispawn> jujimufu: its just a demo. you need the pak files from the cd for the full game
[11:52] <haler> how do i know that my video card is working properly? it's an ancient trident 3dimage 9750 agp.
[11:52] <Lynoure> haler: Usually you know if it does not
[11:53] <naosz> mhuhahah! I love ubuntu :D just plugged my mobile phone in to the usb and i can browse the phone and mem card... no new drivers or new software to install! eat that M$
[11:53] <shaantanu> naosz : cool
[11:53] <dpupp> im in the process of partitioning, i have two partitions and some free spaces unclaimed... what do i select to make linux create a partition on that free space and use it for its self without touching the other two partitions?
[11:53] <haler> Lynoure: i won't see a thing?
[11:53] <naosz> I no longer have any M$ software on my PC!
[11:54] <laurens_s> shaantazu: do you have a windows mobile 2005 device?
[11:54] <shaantanu> 2003
[11:54] <onispawn> anyone use vmware server?
[11:54] <daniele_981> hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C
[11:54] <Lynoure> haler: or the resolution is bad or it flickers or...
[11:54] <dpupp> is it a problem to have two primary and two logical? im confused. i dont want to cause a conflict
[11:54] <shaantanu> lauren: Windows mobile 2003
[11:55] <laurens_s> shaantazu: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/multisync_guide.php ?
[11:56] <dpupp> ide master hda has #1 primary ntfs, #5 logical fat32, #6 fswap, and #3 primary.... does this sound right?
[11:56] <HanzZ> how long will be package in edgy?
[11:56] <shaantanu> lauren : naah ... I dont want to synchronize , I just want to browse my pocket PC thru nautilius
[11:56] <dpupp> i want to make sure ubuntu is the first choice at boot.
[11:56] <daniele_981> hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C
[11:57] <laurens_s> shaantanu: can't help there - perhaps http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin can
[11:57] <YveDeLarc> The solution for my sound card ordering problem was to add 'options snd-emu10k1 index=0' and 'options snd-intel8x0 index=1' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. That way, I still can use the onboard interface but gave the SB live as default.
[11:57] <dpupp> bah... im feeling advetureous... clicks random options and hits next ^_^ weee!
[11:58] <Deep> Hello friends
[11:58] <shaantanu> lauren : i have been on this page but cant decipher svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce just have alook on the page
[11:58] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: ok, good that it's fixed.
[11:59] <laurens_s> shaantanu: do you have svn installed? svn --version?
[11:59] <shaantanu> dont think so ...
[11:59] <shaantanu> what package is this
[11:59] <laurens_s> shaantanu: sudo apt-get install subversion
[11:59] <YveDeLarc> laurens_s: Well, my solution is not as end-user-friendly, so your suggestion also has its merits. :)
[11:59] <YveDeLarc> laurens_s: Thanks again for helping.
[11:59] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: ;p
[12:00] <daniele_981> llo smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C i need it but i don't say
[12:00] <shaantanu> lauren : what is subversion used for ??
[12:00] <haler> the only hiccup i encountered when i installed ubuntu was that it won't recognize the sound chip in the mobo. no sounds. what i did was buy a pci sound card. install. voila! music. cmi8738=$7
[12:00] <laurens_s> shaantanu: here, it's used to get the latest version of synce from the developers
[12:01] <laurens_s> shaantanu: but didn't you just compile it already?
[12:01] <e-type> ls
[12:01] <e-type> hm... whoops
[12:04] <_w^x_> man I'm just having a crap day with tech stuff
[12:05] <_w^x_> Cinelerra CV has either bugs or my PC does'nt have enough crunching power
[12:05] <dggoldst> w^x, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you
[12:05] <_w^x_> Cinelerra keeps freezing up.
[12:05] <_w^x_> And I really want/need this app
[12:05] <_w^x_> but oh well
[12:08] <shaantan1> ?nick tarbomb\
[12:08] <Goudini> hello
[12:09] <TLE> does clamav check e-mail in thunderbird? And if not is there a way to make it so?
[12:09] <selinuxium> hi all, I have made a move from programming to sysadmin and I was looking for some advice on networking tools. What are the good ones? Can I get a Novell VPN client? Is it possible to view a windows RDP seesion in Ubuntu?
[12:10] <laurens_s> tarbomb: did you compile the plugin yet?
[12:10] <selinuxium> TLE: on linux? viri' are not prevelent on Linux.
[12:10] <laurens_s> selinuxium: as for network & tools, don't know, but a RDP session is as easy as going to 'Applications, Internet' and clicking
[12:11] <laurens_s> selinuxium: terminal server client
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is it app-get? or get-app? i forget the sommand -_-
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> command*
[12:11] <laurens_s> apt-get
[12:11] <Healot> apt-get
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> apt
[12:11] <Healot> !apt-get
[12:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> freaking t
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> kthx guys
[12:12] <selinuxium> laurens_s: cheer.,
[12:12] <selinuxium> laurens_s: cheers even! :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> ISOLATEDViRuS: Advanced Package Tool = apt
[12:12] <kapheroph> fyrstrtr: seya and thanks again for the help :)
[12:14] <TLE> selinuxium: I know, the only reason why I want e-mail scanning is so that I don't pass anything on to friends
[12:14] <kapheroph> ......fyrestrtr....sorry
[12:14] <laurens_s> selinuxium: ;p
[12:15] <selinuxium> TLE: Ok :)
[12:16] <Goudini>   
[12:16] <Goudini> http://nextworld.ru/?rid=389522
[12:18] <|DuReX|>  is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[12:21] <tarbomb> lauren : what does the second step in http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin mean ...
[12:21] <tarbomb> which filedirectory , they r talkin abt
[12:22] <laurens_s> tarbomb: you mean 'compile and install'?
[12:22] <tarbomb> ya
[12:22] <laurens_s> tarbomb: i'll have a quick look
[12:22] <tarbomb> k
[12:23] <klm-> what's the best wifi sniffer for gnome?
[12:23] <laurens_s> tarbomb: try doing  a 'cd trunk/gnomevfs'
[12:23] <tarbomb> k
[12:23] <laurens_s> klm: wifiradar?
[12:23] <laurens_s> tarbomb: works?
[12:23] <tarbomb> wait
[12:23] <laurens_s> k
[12:24] <black_pignouf> Bonjour  tous!
[12:26] <tarbomb> lauren : doesnt work
[12:26] <laurens_s> tarbomb: try doing  a 'cd synce/trunk/gnomevfs'
[12:26] <laurens_s> tarbomb: I assume you did do the svn part?
[12:27] <tarbomb> ya its underway
[12:27] <laurens_s> then you have to wait a bit more
[12:27] <tarbomb> k
[12:27] <bilss_> whats the command line to give root prilages to user admin?
[12:27] <tarbomb> sudo
[12:28] <bilss_> ok
[12:28] <bilss_> thanks
[12:28] <tarbomb> !sudo > bilss_
[12:28] <laurens_s> tarbomb: or you could do 'svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs'
[12:29] <tarbomb> hmm .. lemme see .. actually i ran out of space on my /
[12:29] <tarbomb> I m tryin to clean up now
[12:34] <selinuxium> !radeon > selinuxium
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <HNT> Hello everybody,
[12:35] <HNT> i'v got a big problem : alsa is'nt running, so i don't have sound anymore
[12:35] <HNT> 'iv got alsa-tools and during the boot the message "Alsa starting up" ok , come.
[12:35] <HNT> When i type ps -fe | grep alsa, i don't get anything and rcconf don't allow me to start him (alsa isn't in the list) so, any solution ?
[12:35] <Moof> is there a way to set up a bunch of ssh tunnels in an init script that will auto-reconnect when they drop?
[12:36] <lassegs> hi please help. My disk looks like this hda1=winxp(ntfs) hda2=ubuntu(ext3) hda3=swap. I reinstalled windows, now im not able to boot to linux. i need help with restoring grub!
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[12:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:36] <gotama> Hi there!
[12:36] <HNT> no idea for the alsa problem ?
[12:37] <gotama> I've just installed ubuntu server via netboot
[12:37] <gotama> I have the next message from grub
[12:38] <e-type> HNT: does alsamixer show your channels?
[12:38] <gotama> GRUB loading, please wait ... error 18
[12:38] <gotama> What does it mean? How to fix it?
[12:39] <gotama> I installed and reinstalled and the problem reamins.
[12:39] <HNT> e-type : yes he does
[12:39] <nocti> gotama, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html
[12:39] <e-type> HNT: are your channels unmuted and up?
[12:39] <laurens_s> gotama: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[12:40] <userstat-ubuntu> test1
[12:40] <lassegs> the howto on how to restore grub from installer must be outdated? i cant figure out to do that i dapper...
[12:41] <gotama> Thanks a lot. I'll take a look at the URLs.
[12:41] <HNT> e-type : yes they are
[12:42] <e-type> HNT: what's the error if you run an audio application from terminal?
[12:43] <lassegs> In the grub tool when i type 'root (hd0,2), which is my ext3 partition with both / and /boot, it just says grub> root (hd0,2) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[12:43] <lassegs> anyone knows what my problem is?
[12:43] <laurens_s> lassegs: no guarantees, and just a stab in the dark, but can't you use the live-cd, select 'boot installed system', and then do sudo grub?
[12:43] <e-type> HNT: easiest with mplayer or a player that let's you specify the audio driver
[12:44] <HNT> e-type : (rhythmbox:5403): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to start mDNS browsing
[12:44] <HNT> the only one warning
[12:45] <laurens_s> HNT: that's normal
[12:45] <laurens_s> HNT: or: does so with me, too :)
[12:45] <HNT> this morning alsa runed fine, now i'v installed xgl, don't know if it influence alsa ?
[12:45] <e-type> HNT: shouldn't, and that's not an alsa error
[12:45] <nocti> HNT, uninstall xgl?
[12:46] <HNT> no, not uninstall xgl but try to start with xorg, that's not logic
[12:46] <e-type> HNT: what if you run esd or restart in terminal?
[12:46] <timpy> Hello, I installed ubuntu-server, but when I log in EVERYTHING is in capital letters , and when I type it accepts my commands, but the result isn't always visible
[12:46] <timpy> what could be causing this?
[12:46] <e-type> HNT: erm, run/restart esd I mean
[12:48] <xerophyte> Cpu(s): 0.3% us, 1.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 42.3% id, 3.0% wa, 53.3% hi, 0.0% si  I know id = idle, and us=user, sy=system, but what does wa, hi, si eash mean?
[12:49] <longwave> wa=wait (for disk access), hi=hardware interrupt, si=software interrupt i believe
[12:49] <timpy> I rebooted, it's fixed now
[12:49] <yeager> ni=nice?
[12:49] <HNT> how can i start esd ?
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: by the way, alsa is in kernel space, so it will never show up in $(ps) stuff
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: '$ esd' ;)
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: the fact that your alsamixer shows your channels prooves that your alsa is okay
[12:51] <HNT> esd is already running
[12:51] <xerophyte> longwave, where can i check them just wondering man top does not give me
[12:53] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:54] <HNT> so i go in my menu > system > preference > multimedia system selector and i try to use esd for the default output but it don't work
[12:55] <acersales> hi i am typing a 'clear' command on the console and gettting the error 'terminal is not a console'
[12:58] <laurens_s> acersales: now that's odd :)
[12:58] <HNT> how can i delete all the configuration files of alsa (for my account and for the computer :: /etc) ?
[12:58] <HNT> to start with a correct configuration, maybe, i do a bad manipulation
[12:59] <nocti> HNT, rm -frv /
[01:00] <laurens_s> HNT: don't do the rm thing!
[01:00] <Nameeater> bad nocti
[01:01] <nocti> just kidding :)
[01:01] <HNT> this is stupid no ?, it will delete all my system
[01:01] <laurens_s> HNT: indeed
[01:01] <Ng> nocti: that's not funny and it is extremely stupid
[01:01] <HNT> in french : andouille
[01:01] <Ng> nocti: it's the kind of thing that will earn you a kick/ban
[01:01] <nocti> heh, forgive me guys, i didnt add sudo :)
[01:01] <Frostbite> Does Ubuntu Server use debian unstable as an upstream?
[01:03] <tarbomb> lauren : do u suggest svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs' instead of svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce ??
[01:03] <laurens_s> tarbomb: well, yes, that would just give you the plugin for gnome, instead of everything they are working on.
[01:03] <tarbomb> k
[01:03] <tarbomb> thanx
[01:04] <acersales> any idea guyz ?
[01:04] <grendel_> afternoon folks
[01:05] <grendel_> anyone here using edgy and openldap?
[01:07] <zenwhen> whats now
[01:08] <grendel_> zenwhen: are you asking me or somebody else?
[01:09] <zenwhen> put text into wrong channel
[01:09] <grendel_> ah, k
[01:10] <opexoc> hi
[01:10] <opexoc> i am new there :)
[01:11] <usam1> hi all
[01:12] <opexoc> hi usam1
[01:13] <manmadha> any one know how to do graphics programs using  c
[01:13] <manmadha> ?
[01:13] <usam1> i wanna ask a question. what will happen if someone replace his source.list with the source.list of debian and then perform a system upgrade (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)?
[01:13] <Moof> is there a way to keep an ssh tunnel auto-reconnecting?
[01:13] <laurens_s> manmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)
[01:13] <salah> hwo do I kill processes with "zombie" status?
[01:13] <m1ckeyknox> is there a way to run the "software updates" utility... but from command line (ie ssh)?
[01:13] <salah> *how
[01:14] <mcphail> usam1: that someone would break their system
[01:14] <Megant> hello
[01:14] <salah> m1ckeyknox, yes, apt-get update
[01:14] <selinuxium> Any idea on how I can VPN connect to a Novell Border manager server/
[01:14] <selinuxium> ?
[01:14] <mcphail> manmadha: use the GTK libraries
[01:14] <usam1> mcphail: hmm,
[01:14] <m1ckeyknox> salah: thank you. and that will update anything installled through apt-get, correct?
[01:14] <Megant> "(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found
[01:15] <Megant> What can you tell?
[01:15] <Megant> So X doesn't start
[01:15] <salah> m1ckeyknox, no, that updates the source list. use apt-get update first, then apt-get upgrade to upgrade to update softwares
[01:15] <usam1> mcphail: and is it possible to use the debian repos (some or all) with the repos of ubuntu (in source.list)?
[01:15] <m1ckeyknox> so: 1) apt-get update 2) apt-get upgrade
[01:15] <manmadha> mcphail, can u guide me.....(i compile the programs in borland c++.......using the functions putpixel(),initgraph().......how to do this in linux........??)
[01:16] <mcphail> usam1: only if you want a very unstable system which could break at any update
[01:16] <m1ckeyknox> when it's done, how do I issue a restart command?
[01:16] <m1ckeyknox> (or know if one is necessary?)
[01:16] <usam1> mcphail: thanks for the guidence
[01:16] <salah> m1ckeyknox, it's not necessary if the kernel isn't updated
[01:16] <mcphail> manmadha: there are documents on GTK and GDK in the repos
[01:17] <opexoc> how can i restart X not to restart computer ?
[01:17] <Megant> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:17] <manmadha> mcphail, thank u
[01:17] <salah> opexoc, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload or just CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[01:17] <mcphail> manmadha: the imagemagick libraries also have an api for drawing
[01:17] <opexoc> Megant,salah: thx, i will try
[01:18] <m1ckeyknox> thanks salah
[01:18] <m1ckeyknox> have a great day.
[01:18] <salah> you too
[01:18] <rc55> Odd question, but can you do xgl accelleration on intel based graphics chipsets?
[01:18] <manmadha> laurens_s, u r link is for c++ only.
[01:18] <salah> rc55, which chipset?
[01:18] <Megant> X config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21534
[01:19] <Megant> AIGLX should work at least I think
[01:19] <rc55> salah: 865 iirc
[01:19] <laurens_s> manmadha: yeah, that's what I mentioned: manmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)
[01:19] <salah> rc55, unless you have installed the drivers, no, I don't think so
[01:19] <mcphail> manmadha: if you are brave, you can use the X API directly. I wouldn't recommend this
[01:19] <Megant> Can you help me?
[01:20] <laurens_s> manmadha: http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/ - that's c
[01:20] <manmadha> thank u
[01:20] <salah> manmadha, or for python: http://pygtk.org/tutorial
[01:20] <salah> http://pygtk.org sorry
[01:21] <mcphail> manmadha: you may also wish to trawl through some of the GIMP source code
[01:21] <Megant> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:05:0
[01:21] <Megant> (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found
[01:21] <Megant> (EE) No devices detected.
[01:21] <Megant> But my         BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"
[01:22] <DBO> Megant, I would comment your BusID line out, its usually not needed unless you are trying to do dual head and such
[01:22] <laurens_s> megant: do a sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change the 0:5:0 to 3:0:0
[01:22] <laurens_s> megant:  remember to backup though.
[01:23] <Megant> laurens_s: well, i have there 3:0:0
[01:23] <rbman> I've posted a pretty detailed question on a dual boot issue I'm facing with grub (with file dumps) at http://www.phpriot.com/3687   any help GREATLY appreciated!  And yes, I've read manuals/faqs/and how-tos...
[01:23] <manga> e
[01:23] <selinuxium>  Hi all, I am going crazy here! I am trying to find a way to negotiate a VPN on a Novell Bordermanager server with Ubuntu. Has anyone had this experience? Any Ideas?
[01:23] <Megant> DBO: I don't think that X find my
[01:23] <Megant> argh, lag
[01:23] <dalila> is it posssible to search  'search' the ubuntu mailing list by subject?
[01:23] <Gonzo> i have an executable that is looking for a .so that is in ../lib but cannot find it...
[01:23] <Megant> I'll test
[01:24] <laurens_s> megant:  then, I don't know ...
[01:24] <laurens_s> gonzo: which one?
[01:24] <Gonzo> its part of a program that i installed in /usr/program
[01:24] <erUSUL> Megant: do you have the fixed xerver-xorg-core installed, don't you?
[01:24] <Gonzo> im running /usr/program/bin/myProgram
[01:25] <Gonzo> and it can't find a dependant .so in /usr/program/lib
[01:25] <laurens_s> gonzo: ah. I see
[01:25] <Bacta> hey i can't get any sound on Ubuntu
[01:25] <laurens_s> gonzo: just a sec
[01:25] <Gonzo> ok
[01:26] <Bacta> i've heard its a big problem with Ubuntu...where do I start fixing this??
[01:26] <erUSUL> !sound
[01:26] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:27] <Bacta> i don't have a multimedia system selector on my preferences menu
[01:27] <AnAmiC> hey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way? ^^
[01:27] <Gonzo> bacta im not sure but modprobe <soundmoduke> use to work back in teh days when the sound didn't work
[01:27] <sixtsixfps> is this X update thats nagging me the broken package or is it a fix for the broken package
[01:27] <Bacta> is modprobe a program?
[01:27] <Gonzo> yep
[01:27] <laurens_s> gonzo: you could try adding a script, like here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21535
[01:27] <Bacta> how do i run it?
[01:28] <laurens_s> gonzo: can you adapt that for your own program?
[01:28] <Gonzo> so all i need is get my LD_LIBRARY to point on the lib folder?
[01:28] <Gonzo> u guess so
[01:28] <Gonzo> (i'll just add it to my .bashrc)
[01:28] <laurens_s> dont do that
[01:28] <Gonzo> why not?
[01:28] <laurens_s> gonzo: it might break like a lot of other programs
[01:29] <erUSUL> Bacta: run gstreamer-properties
[01:29] <Bacta> Gonzo: How do I run that program?
[01:29] <Gonzo> why would it?
[01:29] <Gonzo> i dont think the lib names will conflict
[01:29] <Bacta> so i type gstreamer-properties on bash?
[01:29] <laurens_s> gonzo: since it replaces your current LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of adding it  :)
[01:29] <Gonzo> bacta i would have though just "modprobe" but im not sure
[01:29] <Gonzo> laurens_s:  i meant concatenating the path to the variable
[01:29] <laurens_s> gonzo: that should be no prob :) But no guarantees
[01:30] <Gonzo> will try anyway
[01:30] <Gonzo> thanks for your help :)
[01:30] <Bacta> it just gives me a list of parameters
[01:30] <laurens_s> gonzo: np :)
[01:30] <Gonzo> Bacta:  you need to add your kernel sound module as parametre
[01:30] <opexoc> I have some image *.nrg how can i display it ?
[01:30] <Gonzo> as i said "modprobe <sound module>
[01:30] <Bacta> Gonzo: whats that?
[01:30] <dalila> i am kind of dissapointed  that searching the mailing list, google, and here in 3 days i can't find a way to configure or get working a ps/2 mouse
[01:30] <Gonzo> its your sound card driver i assume
[01:30] <laurens_s> gonzo: alternatively, you could just make a little script for your program, editing line 2 & three
[01:31] <Bacta> im totally lost here
[01:31] <Gonzo> laurens_s: i might have to link with some of this libs in the future anyway
[01:31] <Gonzo> Bacta: to get your sound card working... you need a sound driver
[01:31] <Gonzo> following me so far?
[01:31] <Bacta> where do i get the sound driver?
[01:31] <laurens_s> gonzo: ok, then the .bashrc idea isn't such a bad idea
[01:32] <Gonzo> its either built in.. or o the website of your manufacturer
[01:32] <Gonzo> it is not impossible that your sound card is not supported
[01:32] <laurens_s> dalila: It should 'just work'
[01:32] <Gonzo> i would find out what it is and then google ubuntu sound problem <sound card name>
[01:32] <Bacta> my soundcard is an Intel built in one
[01:32] <laurens_s> dalila: does it work on the live cd?
[01:32] <rbman> dalila http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)
[01:32] <Gonzo> you might just find some interesting read
[01:32] <dalila> laurens_s: well i have tired 2 mice ,one brandnew and no luck
[01:32] <Bacta> and how the hell could it not be supported???
[01:32] <Bacta> lol
[01:32] <dalila> no it does not work for the live cd either
[01:32] <Gonzo> i dont know...
[01:33] <Gonzo> both my sound cards worked without problem...
[01:33] <Bacta> i thought Linux did everything
[01:33] <Gonzo> except for the fact that the active one switch every time i reboot
[01:33] <Gonzo> very annoying to unplug and replug the cabale
[01:33] <Bacta> how do i find out what my soundcard is?
[01:33] <erUSUL> Bacta: lspci
[01:33] <Gonzo> Bacta: it does... as logn that you have what you need to do it
[01:33] <Gonzo> if you dont ... then it wont
[01:33] <Gonzo> its not linux
[01:33] <Gonzo> its computers in general
[01:33] <Urden> anyone know where the kernel sources are installed by default on dapper?
[01:34] <rbman> dalila check the suggestions here --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)
[01:34] <Seveas> Urden, they aren't installed by default
[01:34] <erUSUL> Urden: /usr/src/
[01:34] <Gonzo> brb trying to get that program working
[01:34] <rbman> Bacta what kind of machine do you have?
[01:34] <dalila> rbman: well x is working for me is just the mouse >> currently reading your suggestion
[01:35] <Urden> Seveas, how can i install them for the 2.6.x series?  i only see a 2.4.x package in synaptic
[01:35] <Bacta> this is what i get 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High De finition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[01:35] <Seveas> Urden, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[01:35] <Bacta> and rbman I have a Acer Travelmate 4072WLMi and its a laptop
[01:36] <Urden> Seveas, package not found
[01:36] <Seveas> Urden, which version of Ubuntu do you use?
[01:37] <Urden> dapper
[01:37] <Bacta> this is frustrating the hell out of me
[01:37] <opexoc> I have opened some .nrg file in mplayer i can see video but i can't hear any voice. this is image of some dvd file. what might be a problem ?
[01:37] <kaot> Bacta: that the only audio controller listed?  My buddy's got a laptop with apparently a pretty similar mobo, he's got an AC'97 compatible card tho
[01:38] <Seveas> Urden, then your sources.list is incomplete
[01:38] <dalila> rbman: i dont see how that could help
[01:38] <Bacta> kaot: do you want me to paste my lspci somewhere?
[01:38] <AnAmiC> hey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way?
[01:38] <Urden> Seveas, i compiled the official 2.6.17 kernel last night from kernel.org, but it dosent have some of the drivers i need for my wifi card, so i was hoping i could just recompile the stock 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel sources
[01:38] <admo> opexoc: install the nrg2iso program, then convert your file
[01:38] <erUSUL> opexoc: afaik opexoc *.nrg is a Nero cd/dvd image convert it to iso and burn/mount it
[01:39] <opexoc> admo: thx, i will try
[01:39] <Urden> Seveas, you mean i need to enable some additional repos?
[01:39] <erUSUL> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[01:39] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 43476 kB, installed size 43612 kB
[01:39] <Seveas> Urden, in that case: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.15 && apt-get -b source linux-source-2.6.15
[01:39] <Urden> ok
[01:40] <opexoc> erUSUL: how can i mount it ? mount file.iso and that's it ?
[01:40] <Bacta> ok guys heres my lspci http://pastebin.com/774727
[01:40] <Bacta> im totally lost in this...i'm a cosc student but that dosn't make me a Unix hacker my any stretch of the imagination...so u can imagine how i feel lol
[01:41] <erUSUL> opexoc: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mount/point -o loop=/dev/loop/0 iirc
[01:41] <Chousuke> -o loop is enough
[01:42] <magical_trevsky> does anyone know if it is possible to sync amarok with a windows mobile pda? I already have the pda 'mounted' (I can browse it's files from it's desktop icon)
[01:42] <dalila> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/412   this is all i find
[01:42] <opexoc> erUSUL: ok, i will try. thx
[01:42] <joyrom> hello
[01:42] <joyrom> how are you people
[01:42] <joyrom> I'm looking for a method for write ascii char
[01:43] <joyrom> that aren't on the keyboard
[01:43] <joyrom> in Winzozz this char are available with alt+numpad
[01:43] <joyrom> anyone can me help
[01:43] <laurens_s> joyrom: applications, accessories, character map
[01:43] <shaantanu> hey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)
[01:43] <joyrom> but I want to write with the keyboard
[01:44] <joyrom> with a combination of key
[01:44] <laurens_s> joyrom: don't know
[01:44] <joyrom> thank you laurens_s anyway
[01:44] <erUSUL> Bacta: your card is an integrated codec by intel that should use snd-hda-intel as driver afaics
[01:44] <nach0s> Hi all, id like to know how printer works in ubuntu! when i plug the printer, dbus and udev recognize the device and make it usefull, To print i use cups and the correct drive! is it??
[01:44] <joyrom> I'm waiting for anyother suggest
[01:44] <rambo3> joyrom:
[01:44] <erUSUL> nach0s: yes
[01:45] <laurens_s> nach0s: basically, yeah
[01:45] <Bacta> erUSUL: so what does this mean?
[01:45] <rambo3> !info python2.4-minimal
[01:45] <ubotu> python2.4-minimal: A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.4). In component main, is required. Version 2.4.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 685 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[01:45] <shaantanu>  hey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)
[01:45] <laurens_s> bacta: try modprobe snd-hda-intel
[01:45] <erUSUL> Bacta: run 'lsmod | grep hda-intel'  gives any output ?
[01:45] <nach0s> erUSUL,  laurens_s, another question... the saned package is needed just by ltsp?
[01:45] <erUSUL> shaantanu: you can move your home dir to another partition
[01:46] <joyrom> rambo3: tell me
[01:46] <shaantanu> that must be ext3 ... right ??
[01:46] <laurens_s> nach0s: no clue, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <Tidus> ;
[01:46] <joyrom> rambo3: Have you any solution for my problem?
[01:46] <erUSUL> shaantanu: yes, why not?
[01:46] <Bacta> lauren_s: done it...what next?
[01:46] <shaantanu> erUSUL: that wont mess up my existing install ??
[01:46] <rambo3> joyrom: no i just joind what was your question
[01:46] <Bacta> erUSUL: dosn't give me any output
[01:47] <laurens_s> bacta: what's the output?
[01:47] <homerh_linux> howdy ppl is there any way of speeding up printing over my smb network
[01:47] <erUSUL> shaantanu: no you have to copy de data to the new partition and then add an entry in fstab for that partition
[01:47] <Bacta> lauren_s: no output
[01:47] <erUSUL> Bacta: try 'sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel'
[01:47] <rambo3> there is a good howto on IBM about moving/ home
[01:47] <laurens_s> bacta: lsmod|grep hda-intel shoud should then show up with something
[01:48] <shaantanu> erUSUL: I m quite a n00b to understand that
[01:48] <joyrom> rambo3 I want to write ascii char that aren't on the keyboard like tilde
[01:48] <nach0s> Its possible to upgrade to edgy??? or not yet?
[01:48] <laurens_s> nach0s: not yet
[01:48] <lupine_85> it is possible, but not recommended
[01:48] <nach0s> laurens_s, thanks
[01:48] <nach0s> oks..
[01:48] <laurens_s> nach0s: it is possible, but not reccommended unless you're a developer
[01:48] <shaantanu> erUSUL
[01:48] <lupine_85> (was speaking to a developer yesterday about it; he said give it a couple of weeks)
[01:48] <lupine_85> anyone know how to generate the Module.symvers file in linux-headers-2.6.15-26 ?
[01:49] <rambo3> joyrom: there is char* program for that , type char and press tab to complite. i dont have GUI i am in text mode so i cant swith to check it
[01:49] <Urden> Seveas, thanks
[01:49] <Bacta> lauren_s: shows up nothing...even when i put a sudo before it
[01:49] <shaantanu> !fstab
[01:49] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:49] <joyrom> in text mode what's the solution
[01:50] <pequatre> hi. Does anyone else has this pb with k3b: when you start it nothing happens but at the next reboot it opens ? is there a fix ?
[01:50] <erUSUL> shaantanu: well i do not know how to explain it better... You copy the data that is under home/ to the new partition and then add this new partition to /etc/fstab and tell it to mount under /home.
[01:50] <nach0s> there is a problem in the first line of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <laurens_s> bacta: do dmesg|tail -n 10
[01:50] <shaantanu> k
[01:50] <joyrom> rambo3: I know in Windows OS, there's a combination of key alt+numpad
[01:50] <Bacta> lauren_s: ok i got some output...would u like me to pastebin it?
[01:51] <laurens_s> bacta: yes
[01:52] <Bacta> http://pastebin.com/774731
[01:52] <erUSUL> shaantanu: take a look at my fstab to see what i mean i have three main partitions for my system... / /boot and /home
[01:53] <AAAle> Hi all, i've got a nvidia 6600gt correctly installed but after 5 minutes playing in all games system freeze. Someone got this kind of problem?
[01:53] <kaot> AAAle: you get this under windows at all too?  almost sounds like you might be overheating.
[01:54] <AAAle> kaot, don't have windows installed, in gentoo all works great
[01:54] <erUSUL> shaantanu: i found a how to in the web http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[01:54] <kaot> ah.  alrighty then.  When my vid card fan died, mine would lock after a few minutes, dunno what's up with yours.
[01:55] <AAAle> kaot, thanks by the way :P
[01:55] <erUSUL> shaantanu: making this is worth if it is the files under home the ones that takes most of the space of course. du -hs /home to see
[01:55] <Udaniel> 
[01:55] <Udaniel> hii
[01:55] <Bacta> lauren_s: see anything wrong in that output?
[01:57] <evil_monkey> hello
[01:58] <stegozor> Hi everyone, I wonder whether it is apprpriate to report a bug on launchpad.net about a package (universe) that is not officially supported by ubuntu (no little logo in front of the package in synaptic)
[01:58] <opexoc> i have opened this iso but not like a DVD disc, but like a some movie and that's why i can't profit from menu of this DVD. When i want to get ( Open->Play DVD ) then mplayer prompts "Failed to open dvd://1 " What can i do ?
[01:59] <laurens_s> bacta: sorry, was away from keyboard: I expected it to show it had loaded the driver, but it does not. I'm no expert, so I don't think I can help you with your specific problem
[01:59] <shaantanu> erUSUL: u there ??
[01:59] <erUSUL> shaantanu: yes
[01:59] <tuxtux> bye bye
[01:59] <shaantanu> just a sec
[01:59] <laurens_s> laurens_s: you could search https://launchpad.net for your soundchip
[02:00] <Bacta> which is snd-hda-intel ?
[02:01] <shaantanu> erUSUL:do u recon I shud add something like "/dev/hda5     /media/hda5      ext3" to my fstab
[02:01] <shaantanu> ??
[02:02] <laurens_s> bacta, no an Intel Corporation 82801FB
[02:02] <laurens_s> bacta: which presumably uses snd-hda-intel, but I'm not sure
[02:03] <laurens_s> !launchpad
[02:03] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:03] <Gonzo> is ubuntuforum.org down?
[02:03] <cafuego> Not just and-intel8x0?
[02:03] <Gonzo> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[02:03] <Webspot> are the ubuntu repositories running slow?
[02:03] <laurens_s> gonzo: seems like it here. Did you get your program to run?
[02:04] <Webspot> Or is it just me?
[02:04] <Gonzo> yes... sort of
[02:04] <Gonzo> anyway that solve dthe lib problem
[02:04] <gilianima> I've got a bug whn displaying text in some windows on gnome, the text disappear and reappear if I click on it. Someone knows how to solve this problem ?
[02:04] <laurens_s> gonzo: good :)
[02:05] <Gonzo> thx again
[02:05] <Gonzo> :)
[02:05] <erUSUL> shaantanu: take a look at the how to i gave you... http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[02:05] <shaantanu> k
[02:05] <laurens_s> gonzo: np, just wanted to know if it helped :)
[02:05] <erUSUL> shaantanu: there you can see the entire process explained
[02:06] <shaantanu> gee thanx mann
[02:06] <Crazed> is it just me or are there more ppl having trouble with the ubuntu repositories atm ?
[02:06] <erUSUL> shaantanu: no problem
[02:06] <Crazed> they are rly slow and some dont even connec
[02:06] <Crazed> t
[02:07] <Crazed>  7543B/s 4m23s
[02:07] <Crazed> :S
[02:07] <laurens_s> crazed: seems like it, problems with ubuntuforums.org too, as webspot also spotted.
[02:08] <laurens_s> crazed: slow here too.
[02:08] <Crazed> hmm ok
[02:08] <laurens_s> crazed: 27 kb/s
[02:08] <LiteWait> hey all: just installed xubuntu and I can see my Matrox G450 mentioned in xorg.conf (and some reasonable modes).  But my display settings only show 320x240 :-(
[02:09] <laurens_s> litewait: make a backup of your xorg.conf, and try to dpkg-reconfigure your xorg
[02:09] <laurens_s> litewait: during that, you can specify resolutions
[02:10] <laurens_s> !dpg-reconfigure
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpg-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <chameleon> hi all. just browsed through /var/log/message and found this: Aug 24 08:02:06 localhost -- MARK -- What does it mean?
[02:12] <LiteWait> laurens_s: which package do I reconfigure?
[02:12] <laurens_s> chameleon: that your system is not dead
[02:12] <chameleon> thx god!!!
[02:12] <laurens_s> chameleon: It puts notes there if there' s nothing to report, basically, just to tell you that it was still alive & kicking (to at least some degree), so that in case of a system crash, you roughly know when it happpened
[02:13] <laurens_s> litewait: xorg-server?
[02:13] <laurens_s> litewait: not 100% sure
[02:13] <chameleon> ,thx
[02:14] <laurens_s> chameleon: np :)
[02:14] <protocol2> is there command I can use in console to open up network manager?
[02:15] <DBO> protocol2, which network manager?
[02:15] <dmsantam> protocol2, network-admin
[02:15] <laurens_s> protocol2, network-manager?
[02:15] <protocol2> yeah
[02:15] <DBO> use gksudo on both of those
[02:15] <DBO> they will want root
[02:15] <laurens_s> offtopic: doh, I just found out x-chat understands <tab> to complete usernames...
[02:15] <dmsantam> laurens_s, welcome to a whole new world of IRC :)
[02:15] <chameleon> start woried.I have no 'MARK' relatives
[02:16] <laurens_s> dmsantam, thanks :)
[02:16] <frogzoo> is xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2 10.4 going to break x for me?
[02:16] <dmsantam> frogzoo, no
[02:16] <laurens_s> frogzoo, it shouldn't
[02:16] <rambo3_> !xorgfix
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <dmsantam> frogzoo, it's fixed. 10.3 was the screwed one
[02:16] <frogzoo> dmsantam: k, thx
[02:18] <lacostepf> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on a new machine and F11, F12 Home and End keys don't work with my keyboard (Logitech Deluxe Access). I've tried showkeys in the console and they don't seem to be recognized. How can I make those keys work ?
[02:19] <LiteWait> laurens_s: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ran me through it.  Now (embarrased to say) how do I restart X?
[02:19] <laurens_s> !x-restart
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-restart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <protocol2> I just got network settings.....it didnt take me to network-manager
[02:19] <laurens_s> LiteWait, are you in x now?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> LiteWait: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:20] <laurens_s> fyrestrtr, tnx :)
[02:20] <webguy> when i do ls -a can someone tell me what each column represents
[02:20] <protocol2> how do I start network-manager applet?
[02:20] <laurens_s> protocol2, do you have it installed?
[02:20] <protocol2> yeah
[02:21] <LiteWait> all: to late I just rebooted :-)
[02:21] <Nameeater> when I do ls -a, I only see one column
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> webguy: each column is a list of files.
[02:21] <protocol2> normally it shows after I boot up
[02:21] <protocol2> but this time it hasnt
[02:21] <laurens_s> LiteWait, and? higher resolutions?
[02:21] <laurens_s> protocol2, tried rebooting?
[02:21] <webguy> i should have asked about ls -l
[02:21] <webguy> sorry
[02:22] <Nameeater> yes! :)
[02:22] <protocol2> maybe I should eh
[02:22] <protocol2> but I know there a command to start it somewhere
[02:22] <Nameeater> permissions, user, group (or other way around), size, date and time, filename
[02:22] <webguy> the file permissions are the first column ... but what comes after that
[02:22] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:22] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:23] <laurens_s> Nameeater, you conveniently forget the mysterious number after the file persmissions
[02:23] <webguy> Nameeater: that is exactly what i am trying to figure out ...
[02:23] <Nameeater> oh I didnt see that, my bad :)
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> webguy: permissions, number of symlinks owner group size filename
[02:23] <webguy> great thanks
[02:23] <protocol2> nm-applet?
[02:23] <LiteWait> lauren_s: set the display default to 1280x1024, reboot and now the max is 800x600 :-(
[02:23] <spungz> whats ubuntu?
[02:24] <alexdbkim> spungz, a Linux distribution
[02:24] <laurens_s> LiteWait, but at least it's higher :)
[02:24] <protocol2> thats the command I was looking for
[02:24] <protocol2> heh
[02:24] <laurens_s> LiteWait, perhaps the combination of resolution and colordepth is too much for your videocard
[02:24] <Nameeater> !ubuntu > spungz
[02:25] <spungz> oh computer stuff..kool. i dont know much about linux-im new here
[02:25] <patientfox> what do i have to do to get gnome to show the system icon tray?
[02:25] <patientfox> i dont see an applet for it...
[02:25] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:25] <alexdbkim> is there anyone use MonoDevelop on Ubuntu?
[02:26] <Nameeater> Notification area under Add to panel
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> acidfk: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[02:26] <Nameeater> acidfk: try #ubuntu-xgl for help
[02:26] <alexdbkim> I have a problem with MonoDevelop on Ubuntu.
[02:27] <acidfk> thanks! guys
[02:27] <patientfox> notification area?
[02:27] <alexdbkim> MonoDevelop's code compeletion doesn't work on Ubuntu. Does anyone have solution for that?
[02:28] <Nameeater> patientfox: I believe thats the tray?
[02:28] <patientfox> aww sweet
[02:28] <patientfox> thanks Nameeater
[02:29] <Nameeater> not a problem
[02:29] <spungz> nameeater is a funny name
[02:29] <fuzzybunny> yeah
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, its not an ubuntu problem. it's a mono problem i'd say
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, get on #mono
[02:30] <Nameeater> :) thought it up when I was like 12 on dalnet ;)
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but there is almost nobody on #mono :(
[02:30] <fuzzybunny> btw everyone, I've decided to take a shot at Ubuntu (I'm a MS Guy) and I spent $1k on a laptop that should arrive today...I intend on putting Kubuntu KDE on it
[02:30] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, yeah I already tried... :(
[02:30] <HanzZ> are somewhere packages for sim 0.9.4 ?
[02:30] <Miek> good choice fuzzybunny :p
[02:31] <lupine_85> did you check that all the hardware is compatible? ;)
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> thank you for the excellent stupport in this channel
[02:31] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, without code completion, C# coding is really painful
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> its an Alienware Area-51 5550
[02:31] <milkyway> hello
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> debian runs on it
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, im sure it is :)
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, ill install mono, and see how it goes for me
[02:31] <Gibbster> Hi. After I installed alsa-oss, my sound stopped working. Any advice?
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> thank you Miek
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, have you tried the mono documentation?
[02:31] <spungz> hello milkyway-are u another computer person?
[02:31] <milkyway> yes
[02:31] <protocol1> thats funny the reboot fixed my issue
[02:32] <milkyway> anyone familiar with apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 segmentation faults ?
[02:32] <dalila> most of the search results i get seem to imply that there is an unresolved bug with ps/2 mice, is this a fair interpretation?
[02:32] <protocol1> Im curious as to why it did'nt show up on the previous boot?
[02:32] <fuzzybunny> so please tell me how this investment of time, money and energy into Ubuntu is going to pay off in the long run
[02:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, but I found one good thing that since Mono follows MS's library architecture, most of them are compatible. The major differences between Mono and .NET is windows programming part which means while Mono relies on GTK, .NET has Form libraries
[02:32] <fuzzybunny> vs about the same amount of money that I spent to complete my MCSA
[02:33] <taychouri-a> hello?
[02:33] <taychouri-a> Anyone there?
[02:33] <spungz> im here
[02:33] <taychouri-a> kk
[02:33] <fuzzybunny> me too
[02:33] <schunk> me also :)
[02:33] <spungz> but i dont know much about computers
[02:33] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, which means I can compile most of classes on both side
[02:33] <spungz> i wish i did
[02:33] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, great :)
[02:33] <taychouri-a> I need a compiler, a good one that can make EXE's. cuz i have gcc i think and it cant make it
[02:33] <Gibbster> Anyone have any advice on sound troubleshooting?
[02:33] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but winforms support is in progress
[02:33] <Nameeater> are you compiling c code?
[02:33] <lupine_85> biggest advantage of running ubuntu? erm. where to start...?
[02:33] <Gibbster> exes?
[02:34] <taychouri-a> i have to, i have to install GTK pod
[02:34] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, oh are they? =) that's good
[02:34] <schunk> exes are for windows :s
[02:34] <Ng> taychouri-a: have you installed the build-essential package?
[02:34] <laurens_s> fuzzybunny, http://www.skarulis.com/?p=22
[02:34] <fuzzybunny> no I'm being serious
[02:34] <taychouri-a> dunno
[02:34] <lupine_85> taychouri-a: you need to build a toolchain to cross-compile to the PE/Win32 environment
[02:34] <taychouri-a> lemme see
[02:34] <Juhaz> dmsantam, we can only hope nobody will ever be insane enough to use that support to write something new
[02:34] <lupine_85> fuzzybunny: me too.
[02:34] <Nameeater> taychouri-a: does the one in the repo's not work?
[02:34] <taychouri-a> not exe
[02:34] <taychouri-a> my bad
[02:34] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:34] <taychouri-a> ones ec
[02:34] <taychouri-a> it says
[02:34] <Miek> fuzzybunny: i guess it depends what kind of things you do with it
[02:34] <dmsantam> Juhaz, i think it's inevitable that somebody will :)
[02:34] <lupine_85> there are so many advantages, it's unreal
[02:34] <taychouri-a> It Cannont Create Executables
[02:34] <Ng> I would guess that taychouri-a saw a configure message saying that the compiler can't create executables
[02:34] <taychouri-a> i am a noob sorry
[02:34] <fuzzybunny> I dropped 1k on my MCSA a year ago and its really paid dividends
[02:34] <Ng> yep :)
[02:35] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[02:35] <lupine_85> job-wise, you mean?
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> yeah
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> how is this going to broaden my knowledge horizon
[02:35] <spungz> are you guys all adults or just teenagers?
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> and make me more marketable?
[02:35] <Ng> fuzzybunny: lupine_85: you should really be on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> <--- 28
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> oh I'm sorry
[02:35] <taychouri-a> <----14
[02:35] <lupine_85> well, considering that most Internet servers are run on LAMP, knowing linux will really open up the market
[02:36] <milkyway> any apache diehard inhere ?
[02:36] <Nameeater> never hurts to ask milkyway, you never know
[02:36] <Gibbster> anyone have any advice on getting my sound working?
[02:36] <Matthai> hi, does anybody know how to set that my IP on freenode is invisible?
[02:36] <Juhaz> dmsantam, I'm afraid you're right
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, join DALnet and ask there
[02:37] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, ok
[02:37] <Nameeater> Matthai: /msg fn'nickserv help  and not really the place to ask :)
[02:37] <taychouri-a> Ng: I am getting the Build-Essential Package, is that what i need to not get that error?
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, go to XChat->Server List. then select DALNet. then: /j #korea
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, and maybe somebody there will know
[02:38] <Miek> Matthai: ask a network staffer for a cloak, check the FAQ for more info: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[02:38] <lupine_85> assuming the error was because you didn't have (e.g.) the linker (binutils) installed, "yes"
[02:38] <taychouri-a> Ng:  The Effin file wont even download on synaptic
[02:38] <taychouri-a> It said failed
[02:38] <taychouri-a> ...
[02:39] <Ng> taychouri-a: close synaptic and in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:40] <taychouri-a> what does sudo mean?
[02:40] <lupine_85> run-as-root
[02:40] <taychouri-a> ahh ok
[02:40] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:40] <Ng> taychouri-a: it runs the command with root user privileges
[02:40] <taychouri-a> I always wondered.
[02:40] <lupine_85> afaict it's like su -c but asks for your password rather than the root password
[02:41] <Linuturk_code> comes from the phrase sudoname, is my guess
[02:42] <patientfox> is anyone here using edgy eft knot 1 or whatever? is it relatively safe to use?
[02:42] <Linuturk_code> when you take someone elses credintals
[02:42] <patientfox> i mostly want gtk+ 2.10... i dont know if they justifies the upgrade...
[02:42] <patientfox> im not familiar with how to upgrade from versionX->versionY in ubuntu
[02:43] <rixth> !upgrade > patientfox
[02:43] <patientfox> thank you
[02:43] <Nameeater> might want to ask the stableness questien in #ubuntu+1  as thats dedicated to the next release of ubuntu
[02:43] <Linuturk_code> Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machine
[02:44] <Linuturk_code> so says their topic
[02:45] <taychouri-a> Ng: Where are these servers located, its downloaded 38kbps..... I usually get 600kkbps
[02:45] <Ng> taychouri-a: that depends which mirrors you're using, if any
[02:45] <taychouri-a> Ng: k
[02:46] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, currently, the servers are experiencing a heavy load, because of the recent mishap with the broken xorg package
[02:47] <taychouri-a> laurens_s: Oh ok. Thanks for the info!
[02:47] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, a lot of traffic is being rerouted to just 1 server, to be sure that no-one gets the broken xorg file, and that 1 server is therefor, heavly-loaded :)
[02:48] <patientfox> !help
[02:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:48] <taychouri-a> k
[02:49] <alexdbkim> Anyone familiar with Mono on Ubuntu?
[02:50] <milkyway> can anyone confirm that apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 is the latest (stable) package for server use ?
[02:52] <laurens_s> milkyway, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all&keywords=apache2&sourceid=mozilla-search it si
[02:52] <laurens_s> is, even.
[02:52] <milkyway> laurens_s, thanks !
[02:52] <milkyway> i'am still getting segmentation faults though
[02:52] <laurens_s> milkyway, have you checked for faulty memory?
[02:53] <milkyway> lauerens_s, nopes. could do that. However i think faulty memory is not the case
[02:54] <taychouri-a> WOw, i am missin so many packages. Thanks the Terminal tells me what i am missing !
[02:54] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:55] <piratepenguin> What ye need is a dapper-testing repository - any chance of that ever happening?
[02:55] <laurens_s> piratepenguin, it's called edgy :)
[02:55] <madgoat> So this is the ubuntu help channel?
[02:56] <laurens_s> madgoat, yes
[02:56] <madgoat> cool
[02:56] <madgoat> I need help
[02:56] <madgoat> i've got a old dell laptop, see
[02:56] <madgoat> and I would like to install Ubuntu, but It doesn't have a CDROM
[02:57] <laurens_s> madgoat, how old is old?
[02:57] <laurens_s> !installation
[02:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:57] <madgoat> righto
[02:58] <piratepenguin> laurens_s: well dapper-testing would be for packages that will (soon) become part of dapper, so we don't get mess-ups like the recent xorg xserver one
[02:58] <madgoat> i'll check that out, but this i unique
[02:58] <Elda> bbl all
[02:58] <madgoat> laurens-s
[02:58] <ag[1] > hey... before i install ubuntu linux, i want to ask that will it ask to install a MBR like lilo, and if i click on NO on it will it prompt me to make a floppy boot?
[02:58] <taychouri-a> k,, i just finished compiling, and i typed make install, and it did everything. now where can i find the program!?
[02:58] <madgoat> laurens-s: 466mhz
[02:59] <madgoat> it seems the install docs have the prerequisite of having a CDROM
[02:59] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, you could run the program by just typing the name
[02:59] <TheFuzzball> how do I downgrade xorg to a stable version?
[03:00] <madgoat> A netboot install is also available, but for now it is outside the scope of this document.
[03:00] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, What version do you have?
[03:00] <taychouri-a> laurens_s:  Typing the name where?
[03:00] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, in the console
[03:00] <Don_jr> I"m looking over the ubuntu page, where can I find the text based install download?
[03:00] <laurens_s> !downgrade
[03:00] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[03:00] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, how do I check, all I know is it doesn't work
[03:01] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, have you tried sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade recenlty?
[03:01] <taychouri-a> thanks laurens_s
[03:01] <Schalken> if i replace my motherboard, cpu and ram, will ubuntu still be configured correctly?
[03:01] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, welcome
[03:01] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, yes
[03:01] <madgoat> so I tried installing ubuntu on the HD, then swapping the HD to the dell
[03:02] <madgoat> but X is broken, and I'm not sure everything works properly
[03:02] <laurens_s> Schalken, probably: but you might run into trouble if your disk(s) are not at the same location
[03:02] <laurens_s> madgoat, you could try to do sudo dpg-reconfigure xorg-server
[03:02] <Schalken> laurens_s: what do you mean 'location'?
[03:03] <Doudyyy> hi there ! anybody know how to select a text in vim editor (square) ???
[03:03] <TheFuzzball> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server*
[03:03] <laurens_s> Schalken,  well, if it's at hda now, if it changes to sda (if you change from a ide to a sata IIdrive, for instance), you might have (fixable) trouble
[03:03] <Don_jr> I treid installing ubuntu on my XP box, it froze up, so I tried agian in safe graphics mode and ended up in a bash shell
[03:04] <Schalken> laurens_s: oh, well i will still be using sata.
[03:04] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, lol, mine says that xorg-server isn't installed
[03:04] <Schalken> laurens_s: so it should work?
[03:04] <laurens_s> Schalken,  I had trouble recenlty with sataII, so that's why I warned about it :)
[03:04] <TheFuzzball> OGM
[03:04] <TheFuzzball> OMG*
[03:04] <laurens_s> Schalken, as far as I can tell, yes, but I'm not 100% sure.
[03:05] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, what's the rpoblem?
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, luke@luke-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install xorg-server
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> Reading package lists... Done
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> E: Couldn't find package xorg-server
[03:05] <Schalken> laurens_s: okay then, we'll just have to wait and see. thanks a bunch! :D
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> anyone know how to make dhcp not overwrite my resolv.conf? I use my own caching nameserver and go between static and dhcp networks many times a day. Right now I've got pre-up set to copy it back but still when dhcp renews it overwrites again.
[03:05] <laurens_s> Schalken, good luck with it
[03:05] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, that's my problem
[03:05] <Adross> can we safely update yet?
[03:06] <Schalken> Adross: yes. the problematic package has been resolved.
[03:06] <Adross> hoorah!
[03:06] <Adross> let's hope that doesn't happen again
[03:06] <Adross> of course, 20-20 hindsight
[03:06] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, hm, that's not good..
[03:06] <Schalken> Adross: :p
[03:06] <Schalken> cyas!
[03:07] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, how did that happen?
[03:07] <ompaul> TheFuzzball, did you try xserver-xorg?
[03:07] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, I have no Idea!
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> MS sends out bad updates all the time and people still PAY for that!
[03:07] <Adross> later
[03:07] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, that command doesn't exist the closest is xset
[03:07] <misieq> !nvidia
[03:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:07] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, what am I running if I don't have X?
[03:08] <ompaul> TheFuzzball, a terminal?
[03:08] <madgoat> laurens_s: ill try that, hang a sec
[03:08] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, no, I am logged in to KDE
[03:08] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, I probably made a typo
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s,  luke@luke-laptop:~$ xorg-server
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> bash: xorg-server: command not found
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> luke@luke-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install xorg-server
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> Reading package lists... Done
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> E: Couldn't find package xorg-server
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> luke@luke-laptop:~$
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, any typo in there?
[03:09] <ag[1] > how can i not install the MBR?
[03:09] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, No, I did - hang on a sec
[03:09] <taychouri-a> Anyone here know how to get songs off an ipod, and put them on my comptuer?
[03:09] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, k
[03:10] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:10] <ompaul> TheFuzzball, please do not paste in the channel, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org in its place thanks
[03:10] <warlocky> !pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, sorry
[03:10] <dmsantam> taychouri-a, gtkpod can do that
[03:11] <laurens_s> madgoat, I made a typo, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:11] <taychouri-a> dmsantam: I am on gtkpod, but i have no idea how to do it
[03:11] <taychouri-a> lol
[03:11] <misieq> !xgl
[03:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:11] <ag[1] > how can i not install the MBR?
[03:11] <ompaul> xgl is beta software - please use #ubuntu-xgl for help with it
[03:12] <milkyway> anyone here willing to help me with an apache2 segmentation fault issue ?
[03:12] <hyphen> hi
[03:12] <xopher_> isnt it alpha? :)
[03:12] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, yes, it worked, but I still have the same problems with X
[03:13] <ompaul> TheFuzzball, what is the exact problem you are encountering
[03:13] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, what exactly is your problem?
[03:13] <ompaul> milkyway, did you compile it in place of using the one in the repos?
[03:14] <hyphen> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[03:14] <milkyway> ompaul, no. I used apt-get for install
[03:14] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, when I start my computer it doesn't load X and I have to run startx and then it logs into my user, no KDM, and when I click K menu> log out, there is not restart or shutdown option
[03:14] <TheFuzzball> ompaul, that is all I can see
[03:14] <LoRez> ompaul: already klined
[03:15] <ompaul> LoRez, yeap, but my bans last longer
[03:15] <ompaul> :)
[03:15] <kaffeewoller> hi
[03:15] <kaffeewoller> what is the ubuntu equivalent of rc.conf?
[03:16] <TheFuzzball> what is the usual version
[03:16] <TheFuzzball> of X
[03:16] <monteiro> anyone knows a way to disable temporarly my touchpad ?
[03:17] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, I don't quite know what the problem could be, seems that gdm, or the kde equivilent is not running. Is there something like kdm?
[03:17] <cbx33> oo-bun-to or You-bun-to?
[03:17] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, I have KDM, I am running Kubuntu
[03:17] <dmsantam> cbx33, the first
[03:18] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, you could try to run that from the command line instead of startx
[03:18] <cbx33> dmsantam, certain?
[03:18] <dmsantam> cbx33, as sure as i am about the pronounciation of my own name :)
[03:18] <Don_jr> Ubuntu install wouldn't work, I found debian, how similar are all of the different versions of nix systems you can download??
[03:18] <gnubie> cbx33:  all I have seen it was oo-boon-to
[03:18] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, ahh, but why isn't it starting when I start the computer?
[03:18] <kaffeewoller> what is the ubuntu equivalent of rc.conf?
[03:19] <laurens_s> good question
[03:19] <_polto_> did somebody use UCK ?
[03:19] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, let's first see if this fixes it
[03:19] <TheFuzzball> k
[03:20] <_polto_> i did try it and it crush , i did repare the proble, now it crush on another stage... did somebody success with UCK =
[03:20] <_polto_> ?
[03:20] <Don_jr> IF I install a different version of a nix system will it make ubuntu load easier?
[03:21] <fr500> Don_jr: not really
[03:21] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, yes, It fixed the log out problem
[03:21] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, cool
[03:21] <bartek> hello.
[03:21] <fr500> Don_jr: what seems to bbe the problem'?
[03:21] <RyanTMulligan> ompaul.. thanks for un banning me
[03:21] <Don_jr> DAmn, so I'm just sol for gettin ubuntu to run on my computer then...that sux
[03:21] <Don_jr> fr500 lots
[03:22] <ompaul> RyanTMulligan, it was dbo :)
[03:22] <bartek> does anyone have any idea what to do when fsck blocks / dir?
[03:22] <fr500> explain Don_jr
[03:22] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, I don't know the neat way to make sure kdm start automagically
[03:22] <likom> holass....alguien de argentina
[03:22] <DBO> RyanTMulligan, only because I beat him to it
[03:22] <RyanTMulligan> dbo... thanks for unbanning me.
[03:22] <Jeroen2006> hello
[03:22] <Don_jr> on my laptop, I start the live CD and sometimes it will laod up, when i click the install, nothing happens, just lot's of cd buzz and nothing more, sat there for almost 2 hours yesterday and nothing
[03:22] <jolt> How do i configure grub to boot a copy of ubuntu off /dev/hda2 in the grub config file.. i want it to use that directory as home as well... when i tried to enter
[03:22] <fr500> Don_jr: bad cd?
[03:23] <Don_jr> so I try on the computer I"m currently on, it's XP and I want rid of it, but wanted to test on my laptop first.  Well, live CD version won't even load on my desktop, locks up after loading the drivers,
[03:23] <fr500> Don_jr: maybe it's a gad disk
[03:23] <Don_jr> I can try to re download
[03:23] <milkyway> Don_jr, have you got the right version ?
[03:23] <fr500> Don_jr: there is a check cd for defects on the boot menu
[03:23] <Don_jr> but not sure if that's the problem or not.  when I ran in safe graphics mode on the desktop I ended up at a bash commnad
[03:24] <jolt> hd0,A for the root partition, it didnt work... set the kernel line to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[03:24] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, thanks for your help anyway
[03:24] <Don_jr> fr500 I ran that with no errors
[03:24] <fr500> hmmm
[03:24] <fr500> wrong platform maybe
[03:24] <bartek> does anyone have any idea what to do when fsck blocks directory tree?
[03:24] <fr500> what image did you download?
[03:24] <Don_jr> what ya mean?
[03:24] <milkyway> don_jr try alternate version
[03:24] <Don_jr> not sure what ya mean?
[03:25] <Don_jr> I have ubuntu, you mean to try xubunut?
[03:25] <jolt> What am i missing with the whole grub thing
[03:25] <overridden> good afternoon you peeps
[03:25] <Jeroen2006> hello does someone know wich channels i have to click in the repository's?
[03:25] <overridden> what do ya mean Jeroen2006 ?
[03:25] <Don_jr> I downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[03:26] <madgoat> lauren-s:that worked, Thanks!
[03:26] <Jeroen2006> @overridden well i'm a complete noob and having trouble to get programs
[03:26] <SillyZ> gmorning
[03:26] <Don_jr> milkyway by alternate version to you mean I should try the Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu?
[03:26] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball, thanks, you're welcome!
[03:27] <fr500> Don_jr: i386, amdx64 or power pc, that is what i mean
[03:27] <overridden> have you used the terminal before Jeroen2006 ?
[03:27] <likom> alguien de argentina
[03:27] <g-henna> hi
[03:27] <Don_jr> fr500 I"m not sure, I believe i386
[03:27] <fr500> likom: #ubuntu_es
[03:27] <fr500> Don_jr: you should check that
[03:27] <Don_jr> no
[03:27] <Jeroen2006>  overridden a little bit..
[03:27] <SillyZ> intresting question for the gurus, why under 'ubuntu' the samba configuration seems to be a fire and forget, up and running out of the box, while under xubuntu, theres no configuration..... any ideas?
[03:27] <g-henna> i want to use eclipse on kubuntu, but using on sun java, not on gcj; so what do i have to do to get rid of all the gcj-stuff that comes with it?
[03:28] <Don_jr> I have the PC intel (X86) download
[03:28] <fr500> Don_jr: that should be fine
[03:28] <fr500> Don_jr: in the download area, there is an X86 alternate version
[03:28] <g-henna> i apt-got the source and want to build, but - as i said - without gcj-deps
[03:28] <Don_jr> debian is installing just fine....heh
[03:28] <overridden> in your terminal type : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <fr500> you should try that one
[03:28] <overridden> en read it Jeroen2006
[03:28] <darksoul_> is there i wine how to anywhere for dapper? every time i try running a program, the second time, i just get pure errors, the first time it almost always works fine
[03:28] <Don_jr> fr500 I"m downloading it now
[03:28] <SillyZ> use automatix to install wine darksoul_
[03:28] <darksoul_> in other words the second time it just wont run, not even steam
[03:29] <fr500> Don_jr: ok
[03:29] <Don_jr> does it come with the same packages that the first one comes with?
[03:29] <fr500> Don_jr: i'm out, good luck
[03:29] <Don_jr> fr500 I went and bought a new wireless card for my laptop because I was told it would work with ubuntu
[03:29] <fr500> lol though luck, i've never had such an issue
[03:29] <Jeroen2006> sorry would you be so kind to tell it 1 more time cant read as fast as the chat goes
[03:30] <darksoul_> SillyZ, is automatrix any good?
[03:30] <SillyZ> most wireless cards, have to be a certain hardware and firmware revision to work
[03:30] <SillyZ> darksoul_, worked for me, and slick install , fire and forget
[03:30] <overridden> in your terminal type : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:30] <overridden> en read it Jeroen2006
[03:31] <fr500> he left
[03:31] <darksoul_> SillyZ, it just really irritates me the first time i install steam it works and i get CS:1.6 working at 70FPS, then i exit and try going on again steam wont even start
[03:31] <darksoul_> SillyZ, something about a .dll cant read.
[03:32] <Jeroen2006> sorry i'm back clickt on the wrong button
[03:32] <milkyway> Don_jr, i meant the alternate install cd found here http://sommerville.uvt.nl/ubuntu/6.06/
[03:32] <darksoul_> !automatrix
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <goldenflaw> Hi, I have a problem with one of my kernel, when I try to boot with my newest kernel it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC, then KERNEL panic- not syncing IO-APIC + time doesn't work boot with apic=debug and send a report. What's weird in this is that it used to work just fine before.
[03:32] <SillyZ> have you tried to specifiy the inclusion of that dll ?
[03:33] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, I had a similar problem with another game. try navigating to the directory holding the *.exe file and running it from there in terminal
[03:33] <darksoul_> SillyZ, where is the automatrix install guide?
[03:33] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, that might work, i would have to try it though
[03:33] <SillyZ> google automatix
[03:33] <SillyZ> not matrix
[03:34] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, try it then, and let me know
[03:34] <Jeroen2006> i'm a big noob so
[03:34] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, if it works, you can write a small script
[03:34] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i just deleted my wine files, im going to reinstall with this automatix..
[03:34] <Jeroen2006> adding repository's is kind a struggle for me
[03:34] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, how would i go about doing that anyway?
[03:35] <lilbit> how does one list users in an ubuntu server?
[03:35] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, why? I hear automatix breaks stuff. search the wiki for the install instructions for wine. Choose the install method that installs directly from the wine repos
[03:35] <Don_jr> I'm being asked to enter the IP number for my primary nameserver, would that be the ip for the computer it's self or for the router?
[03:35] <Kameli> http://www.ourtweaks.com/articles/linux.html
[03:36] <Jeroen2006> overidden are you there?
[03:36] <overridden> yes
[03:36] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, that worked best for me, and you have the most recent stable version, always
[03:36] <Kameli> that guy man really has some serious skils http://www.ourtweaks.com/articles/linux.html
[03:36] <Kameli> :D
[03:36] <goldenflaw> If anyone cares, I have a problem with one of my kernel, when I try to boot with my newest kernel it says MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC, then KERNEL panic- not syncing IO-APIC + time doesn't work, boot with apic=debug and send a report. What's weird in this is that it used to work just fine before.
[03:36] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i have tried that. all it has done is give me problems
[03:37] <overridden> mostly site's give you a "line" you can simply add in that txt Jeroen2006
[03:37] <darksoul_> i guess i can try again and if it doesn't work do the auto thing
[03:37] <overridden> or you could use synaptic, and choose to add a custom repo
[03:37] <Kameli> he flames ubuntu
[03:37] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, if I'm not mistaken, automatix does the exact same thing, with the added risk of screwing a bunch of stuff up
[03:37] <Kameli> and tries to install 1 gb /
[03:37] <Kameli> and nothing else
[03:37] <LiteWait> just installed ubuntu and I can't find where vncserver to install it.  any hints?
[03:38] <Jeroen2006> overridden ah ok so do i have to check all channels with the universe and multiverse chanels?
[03:38] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, prob, but there always is a risk in linux anyway
[03:38] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, read the wiki carefully. it tells you how to configure everything, and if you have problems, ask around in #winehq before you uninstall it
[03:38] <xerxas> LiteWait,  you want to share your destop ?
[03:39] <taychouri-a> I am trying to move a folder into another folder, and it says i do not have permission, how can i get the permission
[03:39] <Jeroen2006> bye
[03:39] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  where are both folders ?
[03:39] <supernix>   Why does Gnome seem faster than KDE ?
[03:39] <darksoul_> Linuruek_code, where is the wiki anyway?
[03:39] <lilbit> on a linux server is there a way to list user accounts?
[03:39] <DooMRunneR> hi
[03:40] <LiteWait> xerxas: from WinXP I want to VNC to new ubuntu install.
[03:40] <taychouri-a> k one folder is on my desktop, and one is in filesystem
[03:40] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, it's in the wiki. I can't browse the internet here (web filter) so you'll have to go to www.ubuntu.com, click on wiki, and search "wine" from there
[03:40] <darksoul_> ah
[03:40] <piratepenguin> oh man.. reading stuff like http://www.ubuntu.com/news/opera9 "Opera is a perfect match for Ubuntu" is nearly making me sick.. According to http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy one of the philosophical ideals of Ubuntu is that (and this is /the main/ reason I installed dapper in the first place) "Every computer user should have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, share, change and improve their software for any purpos
[03:40] <xerxas> LiteWait,  I think there is an icon in the system or application menu that allows you to share your desktop
[03:41] <taychouri-a> xerxas, k one folder is on my desktop, and one is in filesystem
[03:41] <kling0n> Would this be a reasonable place to post questions regarding the "etch" release? or is there a specific channel for feedback/discussion?
[03:41] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  source folder is on your desktop , and the other one is destination ?
[03:42] <xerxas> where is the destination ?
[03:42] <Linuturk_code> kling0n, if you mean edgy, try out #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <taychouri-a> in the filesystem
[03:42] <DooMRunneR> hmm, i have a "small" problem, i want to install dapper server on a IBM H20-blade over the remote-console, bute everytime i boot i get the error "cant read crt while initializing i8042" and the screen get black
[03:42] <oiad_> bla selber
[03:42] <LiteWait> xersas:  nope.
[03:42] <SillyZ> ok if i download new icon sets for xubuntu where do they go?
[03:43] <pianoboy3333> What album is lucy in the sky with diamonds from? or was it a single?
[03:43] <HymnToLife> Beatles
[03:43] <Madkiss> hi all
[03:43] <piratepenguin> hey
[03:43] <kling0n> Linuturk_code: thankx
[03:43] <Madkiss> Why does Ubuntu have LyX 1.3? And is LyX 1.4 available somewhere?
[03:43] <SillyZ> I belive it was a single
[03:43] <overridden> dude, no lsd junky's here pianoboy3333 :p
[03:43] <pianoboy3333> ;)
[03:44] <DooMRunneR> sorry "cant read CTR while initializing i8042", is the error, not crt
[03:44] <anders339> I got big problem.
[03:44] <SillyZ> ok so i downloaded a new icon set for xubuntu, where should it reside?
[03:44] <anders339> You see, I tried to install the ATI Drivers.
[03:44] <SillyZ> somesilly place like /home/whatever/.icons ??
[03:44] <anders339> And it installed as it should.
[03:45] <anders339> So I rebotted the computer.
[03:45] <anders339> And tried Cube 2 again.
[03:45] <melia> hola
[03:45] <anders339> Same laggy crap.
[03:45] <anders339> How do I make the game speed up?
[03:46] <taychouri-a> Anyone know how to create a file in Filesystem
[03:46] <Linuturk_code> taychouri-a, you are probably lacking sudo
[03:46] <taychouri-a> k
[03:46] <Linuturk_code> !sudo > Linuturk_code
[03:47] <anders339> How do I make the ATI Drivers "count" ?
[03:47] <Linuturk_code> !sudo > taychouri-a
[03:47] <taychouri-a> Linuturk_code: I need to put somethin in the /mnt/
[03:47] <anders339> Like, it's the same FPS without the Driver then with.
[03:47] <SillyZ> ok icon installation.... where do they go, all i have is an icon.theme file and a bunch fo folders for incons
[03:48] <SillyZ> suggestions?
[03:48] <taychouri-a> !sudo
[03:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:48] <Linuturk_code> anders339, either the driver isn't installed right, or it's the wrong driver
[03:48] <anders339> It's the lastest one.
[03:48] <Linuturk_code> or your card isn't supported
[03:48] <anders339> Well, it worked on Windows.
[03:48] <hexB> wow loads of peple
[03:48] <xevil> anders339: what driver does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file say you're using?
[03:48] <taychouri-a> Linuturk_code: Is it possible to make my system always have Sudo, cuz i am the only user on my compter
[03:48] <GaTTo> hi
[03:49] <Linuturk_code> anders339, windows != ubuntu
[03:49] <Samuli^> anders339, what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "driver" say?
[03:49] <Linuturk_code> taychouri-a, no
[03:49] <anders339> ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE
[03:49] <xerxas> taychouri-a, where in the filesystem ?
[03:49] <anders339> See, it's ATI
[03:49] <Linuturk_code> taychouri-a, you don't want to do that
[03:49] <taychouri-a> xerxas: I need it in /mnt.
[03:49] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, ill be damned, your way worked..
[03:49] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  you need to be admin to create a file anywhere but in your home and in /tmp
[03:49] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  you want to mount a device ?
[03:49] <GaTTo> i got a problem with a x850 ati
[03:50] <xerxas> LiteWait,  did you find the vnc stuff ?
[03:50] <SillyZ> thanks yall, found it on my own
[03:50] <anders339> I don't know what the fuck I should do.
[03:50] <taychouri-a> xerxas: Well i am following the instructions in the readme for putting my ipod with GTKPOD, cuz i need to get the songs off it to put on ym computer
[03:50] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, no problem ;p I've got 3 apps installed with wine. I've even submitted a but that got fixed pretty quick ;p
[03:50] <DBO> !language > anders339
[03:50] <anders339> oh, sorry there.
[03:51] <Bastupungen> Can someone help me with an raid problem? ubuntu crashes to shell when raid drives added. Please PM me. Thank you very much!
[03:51] <anders339> but this really pisses me off.
[03:51] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, to bad CSS wont run, doesnt want to, it says drivers out dated.. eh
[03:51] <Linuturk_code> anders339, first, calm down. You won't get anything constructive done if you are angry
[03:51] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  you want to put songs on your ipod ?
[03:51] <hexB> ahhh my moniter goes and my mouse and key boared moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the others work perfectly, i've heard that there  are simple things you can do but can't see any...
[03:51] <DBO> anders339, please keep it family friendly =)
[03:51] <Linuturk_code> !ati > Linuturk_code
[03:51] <taychouri-a> xerxas:  I want to put songs on my computer
[03:51] <Linuturk_code> !ati > anders339
[03:51] <anders339> eh, I'm not angry ;P But I don't like when I doesn't work my way :D
[03:51] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  ooh, no, you want to copy the music from your ipod to your computer
[03:51] <Linuturk_code> have you seen that yet anders339 ?
[03:51] <xerxas> ok
[03:52] <Samuli^> anders339, xorg.conf is the config file for X (program that handles drawing stuff)
[03:52] <taychouri-a> xerxas:  yea
[03:52] <anders339> yes I have.
[03:52] <anders339> or..
[03:52] <xerxas> so you are compiling gtkpod ?
[03:52] <xevil> anders339: what does that file say under driver?  it should say "fglrx"
[03:52] <xerxas> taychouri-a, sorry, I don't have an ipod, but I think gtkpod is not the only software that allows you to do that
[03:52] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, is that normal? i updated to the latest driver, i think... it should work as i have got on css before i moved back to ubuntu..
[03:52] <taychouri-a> xerxas: i guess so,, lol. i have gtkpod isntalled
[03:52] <Samuli^> anders339, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[03:52] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  ok
[03:52] <xerxas> taychouri-a, with packages
[03:52] <Bastupungen> Can someone help me with an raid problem? ubuntu crashes to shell during boot when raid drives added. System drive is not Raided Please PM me. Thank you very much!
[03:52] <taychouri-a> yeah
[03:52] <xerxas> taychouri-a, you now want to mount your ipod ?
[03:52] <GaTTo> i need some help here i got a problem on ubuntu startup
[03:53] <hexB> do you have a quee?
[03:53] <taychouri-a> xerxas:  what does mount mean
[03:53] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, I haven't tried to install CSS on my machine yet. you could checkout the application databast at winehq (www.winehq.com) or .org I believe
[03:53] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, im playing normal CS:1.6 with 0 problems..
[03:53] <Samuli^> anders339, cat prints out what's in that file and grep lists only the rows that have "Driver" in it.
[03:53] <xerxas> taychouri-a, why do you want to create a file in /mnt ? (forget about mount)
[03:53] <anders339> wait..
[03:53] <DooMRunneR> what kernels are in the dapper server version?
[03:53] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, why? i have got CSS to work on ubuntu before.. it just seems i might have to update my drivers..again
[03:54] <anders339> Identifier	"Default Screen"
[03:54] <anders339> 	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] "
[03:54] <anders339> 	Monitor		"COMPAQ 9500"
[03:54] <anders339> 	DefaultDepth	24
[03:54] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, there is an application database that lists applications that have been tried with wine, and fixes for common problems
[03:54] <hexB> HELP..
[03:54] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, oh well.. thats ATI for you
[03:54] <anders339> eh.
[03:54] <anders339> I'm trying that site ubotu sent me.
[03:54] <dr|zed> heya.
[03:54] <taychouri-a> xerxas:  I need to put the ipod DB in there
[03:54] <taychouri-a> xerxas:  here i will put a paste bin
[03:54] <dr|zed> anyone else noticed http://xaraxtreme.org ?
[03:55] <Samuli^> anders339, my command, and what's that last Driver "something" ?
[03:55] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, well, you can try that. I'd make sure your graphic drivers are installed right, and also check the entry at winehq.com
[03:55] <bartek> "Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal" anyone can help with this :( ?
[03:55] <dr|zed> full version now available. looks like the screenshots were done on ubuntu.
[03:55] <hexB> ahhh... my moniter goes, after grub, and my mouse and keyboared go too, moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the other two work perfectly, i've heard that there are simple things you can do but can't see any...
[03:55] <anders339> oh that.
[03:55] <Samuli^> it should say "fglrx" and not "ati" for 3d-acceleration to work.
[03:55] <anders339> 8.28.8
[03:55] <erUSUL> !paste > anders339
[03:55] <xerxas> taychouri-a, just wait 2 minutes
[03:55] <GaTTo> please help me with live cd startup
[03:55] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, before i installed flgrx on my own from a guide, i tried the .deb from ati website.. i wonder if they are conflicting..
[03:55] <xerxas> i'm busy for 2 minutes
[03:56] <Samuli^> darksoul_, there's no .deb on the ati's site?
[03:56] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, that's possible . . . I'm no video expert though
[03:56] <darksoul_> Samuli^, eh, i meant the sh script.. why doesn't ati make a .deb.. oh right they hate linux
[03:56] <Samuli^> :)
[03:57] <anders339> gonna reboot now, my friends.
[03:57] <Samuli^> anders339, don't do that.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> i thought i saw a detailed wiki page once on how to use the ati script with ubuntu
[03:57] <Samuli^> just restart your X
[03:57] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  ok, I'm back, you want to copy your db in /mnt ?
[03:57] <XplOzIon> hi all
[03:57] <anders339> eh, allrighty.
[03:57] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  can you give me the url you're reading, I'll probably tell you the ubuntu way to do it
[03:57] <taychouri-a> xerxas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21539
[03:57] <hexB> do you have a quee? can you even see em?
[03:57] <hexB> me
[03:57] <darksoul_> Samuli^, do you know how i would make my system only use one driver? i think they are conflicting
[03:57] <Samuli^> anders339, ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:57] <taychouri-a> xerxas: Read step 1 or 2 one of them it hink
[03:57] <NekoXP> miau
[03:58] <GaTTo> i need some help with ubuntu startup on live
[03:58] <Samuli^> darksoul_, you can only use one driver at a time.
[03:58] <Samuli^> darksoul_, the one that's in the xorg.conf
[03:58] <Bastupungen> Hello!
[03:58] <Bastupungen> I need help with my server. The problem is if I add my raid1 drives ubuntu wont boot, but crashes to a shell at mounting root file system. System starts fine without the raid drives. Please help me, thank you.
[03:58] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  ok
[03:58] <xerxas> reading
[03:58] <XplOzIon> is there any way i can make a folder see whats inside of several folders? to have some kind of 'mount --bind' so when i ls that folder it shows me whats in example1/ and some more folders.
[03:58] <NekoXP> sigh
[03:58] <NekoXP> dskdkasjsakj
[03:59] <hexB> helooooo!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:59] <darksoul_> According to this my 3d card is using D3d HAL, version 6.14.0.0 is this bad for CSS?
[03:59] <lupine_85> xplosion: look at FUSE
[03:59] <exmethix> does anybody know how to use my tvcard (bt878) with xgl/compiz and ubuntu dapper??
[03:59] <hexB> ahhh... my moniter goes, after grub, and my mouse and keyboared go too, moniter coms bak at logon but mouse and keybord don't, i'm tri booting the other two work perfectly, i've heard that there are simple things you can do but can't see any...
[03:59] <xerxas> taychouri-a, can you paste me the output of "mount" somewhere ?
[03:59] <GaTTo> when i boot the ubuntu live cd when x have to startup give an error
[03:59] <XplOzIon> lupine_85. allright thanks
[03:59] <xerxas> just type mount in a terminal
[03:59] <lupine_85> never used it, but I think it'll do the trick
[03:59] <hexB> AM I INVISIBLE
[03:59] <hexB> ????????????????//
[03:59] <darksoul_> GaTTo, it happens, i am NOT a fan of the new installer
[04:00] <GaTTo> im invisible tooo
[04:00] <XplOzIon> lupine_85 i hope so, that would save so much problems
[04:00] <taychouri-a> xerxas: What you mean the output of mount???
[04:00] <GaTTo> darksoul there's no way to fix ? o_0
[04:00] <hexB> n one answers anyone
[04:00] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  do you now what a terminal is ?
[04:00] <taychouri-a> xerxas: Yes
[04:00] <darksoul_> GaTTo, oh im sure there is a way, im just saying the new installer is a headache.
[04:00] <Linuturk_code> GaTTo, have you tried the Safe Graphics mode?
[04:00] <xerxas> can you open a terminal, type "mount" and copy/ paste me the output ?
[04:01] <taychouri-a> xerxas: cp /mnt/ipod_control/itunes/itunesDB /mnt/ipod/ipod_control/itunes/itunesDB.bak
[04:01] <xerxas> mounting is the operation of attaching a filesystem to a directory
[04:01] <anders339> nope. that didn't work.
[04:01] <darksoul_> !ati
[04:01] <hexB> i don't like the new one that works using a livecd
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:01] <GaTTo> linuturk yes alreary tried vga mode 640x480 safe mode all i do a check for bad files
[04:01] <Linuturk_code> GaTTo, or, you can download the alternate install cd. it has a text based install that I like better anyway
[04:01] <anders339> Yeah, I checked that. But that didn't work, lol.
[04:02] <hexB> screams, farts, then pulls out all his hair... CAN ANYONE AT LEAST SAY THEY'VE SEEN ME
[04:02] <taychouri-a> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21540
[04:02] <taychouri-a> xerxas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21540
[04:02] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  thanks
[04:02] <rukuartic> Hey, I have a question... When the computer boots, I want a command line to be executed as a certain user. Can anyone show me how to do this?
[04:03] <xerxas> taychouri-a, /dev/sda2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:03] <lupine_85> hexb, yes, but I don't have an answer
[04:03] <Daardvark> hexB - i can see you
[04:03] <hexB> thanks you
[04:03] <lacostepf> Hi, F11, F12, Home and End keys don't work on my Logitech keyboard. Neither under X nor under console (e:g: with showkeys). Any idea ?
[04:03] <xerxas> this means your ipod is in /media/ipod, just replace any occurence of /mnt by /media/ipod
[04:03] <GaTTo> linuturk but i must redownload all ubuntu ?? but i dont want to download and burn another cd if im not sure ubuntu work on my machine
[04:03] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  you got it ?
[04:03] <taychouri-a> ohh ok
[04:03] <taychouri-a> one sec
[04:03] <taychouri-a> lemme see
[04:04] <anders339> Sooo, I can't use my ATI Card at all for Linux, or what?
[04:04] <rukuartic> GaTTo: You can try ordering a CD... I'd find it easier than downloading :P
[04:04] <Daardvark> unfortunately this is only my first day of linux, so i am unable to help you hexB
[04:04] <rukuartic> Daardvark: Congratulations! :D I'm so happy for you. Its like getting married!
[04:04] <gekko`> rukuartic: during the boot process or when you have logged in as user?
[04:05] <taychouri-a> xerxas: Thanks bro!
[04:05] <taychouri-a> :)
[04:05] <rukuartic> gekko`: During the boot process. I'm really hoping I don't have to write an init script
[04:05] <GaTTo> rukuartic i dont buy a software that does not work -_-
[04:05] <dmsantam> i want to change the default PATH for all users. how do i do that? which file?
[04:05] <rukuartic> GaTTo: Its free mate... last I checked.
[04:05] <Daardvark> anders339 - ... I have an ATI card, is the reason my screen saver renders so slowly because ATI don't support Ubuntu??
[04:05] <xevil> anders339: are you sure you did everything on that link?  d/l driver, edited xorg.cong, etc?
[04:05] <xerxas> taychouri-a,  no problem
[04:05] <anders339> yepp, edited xorg yes.
[04:06] <GaTTo> how many user there got problem with ati card ?
[04:06] <anders339> but the thing after that, i don't get what to confirm..
[04:06] <anders339> i got problems..
[04:06] <lacostepf> other question: googleearth tends to completely crash my PC, probably due to some ATI Rage 128 driver bug. No OOPS though. Anyone seen soething similar ?
[04:07] <relux> I have never had a problem with an ATI driver..even on 64-bit edgy.
[04:07] <LiteWait> not my day :-(  I can't find ssh server.  Search doesn;t find it.
[04:07] <anders339> lucky you
[04:07] <rc55> Hi - I'm a sort of php and VB developer, and I was interested in coding for ubuntu / kubuntu - should I go the Gnome or Kubuntu path - looking from an ease of coding perspective?
[04:07] <rc55> *KDE
[04:07] <lhds> i need a software just like idesk
[04:08] <javaJake> I upgraded xserver-xorg to the latest etch version (using Dapper), but now I've lost Ubuntulooks. How do I get it back? I have all the icons. Also, perl complains about not having locales.
[04:08] <cbx33> idesk?
[04:08] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[04:08] <relux> anders339: go to ATI.com and download the driver.
[04:08] <siofwolves_> is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down for anyone ?
[04:08] <anders339> yepp, tried that.
[04:08] <GaTTo> relux why x wont start on live cd all distro support ati card why ubunto not ?
[04:08] <rc55> siofwolves_: It is for me
[04:08] <Linuturk_code> rc55, i like gnome personally (php/mysql/html) you ought to download and try Bluefish
[04:08] <lhds> how to run the ati control thing?
[04:08] <siofwolves_> kk
[04:08] <relux> anders339: What kind of problem are you having?
[04:08] <darksoul_> that went smooth
[04:08] <anders339> and when i try to open then ATI Control, it say's something about FireFL
[04:08] <rc55> Linuturk_code: I'll try that, thank you :)
[04:08] <anders339> FireGL*
[04:08] <sholden> Question: Has anyone had trouble setting their Gnome-Deskbar hotkey?  I am trying to set it to <ALT>` but it doesn't seem to work.  Any help would be much appreciated!
[04:09] <gekko`> there's no other way making a shell script, putting it to /etc/init.d/ and make a link to rcS.d
[04:09] <relux> GaTTo: X starts fine for me. First off, nvidia also does not have open source drivers.
[04:09] <Linuturk_code> rc55, it's in the repo's, so the install it painless
[04:09] <lhds> anders339 can you tell me what is the command that runs the control?
[04:09] <gekko`> rukuartic: there's no other way making a shell script, putting it to /etc/init.d/ and make a link to rcS.d
[04:09] <relux> anders339: Run the driver .run file and then do aticonfig --initial and then start X
[04:10] <GaTTo> relux i dunno with other distro live all is fine i try ubuntu and it give an  error on x startup
[04:10] <darksoul_> damnit
[04:10] <anders339> it opens fireglcontrolpanel
[04:10] <anders339> "fireglcontrolpanel"
[04:10] <lhds> thanx mate
[04:11] <finalbeta> How do I save my settings from xawtv?
[04:11] <darksoul_> i change the freekin files and this happens! steamstartup failed, steamstartup (0xf,0x0034E064) Failed with error 1. The registery s in use by another Process, timeout expired
[04:11] <relux> anders339: aticonfig --initial in the console
[04:11] <darksoul_> lol of course normal cs runs..
[04:11] <lhds> there is nothig special about the ati control since you can only ajust gamma its poor
[04:11] <anders339> Found fglrx primary device section
[04:11] <anders339> Nothing to do, terminating.
[04:11] <anders339> that's what I got.
[04:11] <relux> anders339: And then what error do you have when you start up X?
[04:11] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, well, the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org) and winehq will be of most help to you
[04:11] <darksoul_> eh i got css that just wont start.
[04:12] <finalbeta> How do I save my settings from xawtv?
[04:12] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, I've found so much good information on there, it's great
[04:12] <taychouri-a> Anyone know if the .m4a format can be used in ubuntu?
[04:12] <darksoul_> linuturk_code, no i figured out it was just that i rightclicked it.. it just wont start up now
[04:12] <eps> can some one please give me the result of aptitude search 7zip
[04:12] <tRSS> is there way to to mount a windows share from shell?
[04:12] <anders339> Oh wait, what's X? (Sorry, Linux noob)
[04:12] <anders339> ATI Controll?
[04:13] <GaTTo> how to get help lke other user ?
[04:13] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i went on a CS:1.6 server and announced proudly i got it working on wine and all they said was "what you cant afford windows"... that made me sad
[04:13] <relux> anders339: Well, you appear to be in X(The graphics window manager). How do you know the drivers not working? Because ati control wont open?
[04:13] <cybergyp1y> trying to do an apt-get update/upgrade/install is *real* slow atm , is it the server or me ?
[04:13] <xevil> eps: p7zip
[04:13] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, so many people brainwashed, windows is the best.. for games yes, for the rest no.i do own a copy i just dont want to use it
[04:13] <anders339> no, because the games I try to open are extra laggish.
[04:13] <eps> thanks xevil
[04:14] <relux> anders339: Have you restarted since you ran aticonfig --initial?
[04:14] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, yeah, welll since their systems are slowed down by antivirus programs and spyware, you can pwn them
[04:14] <xevil> n/p
[04:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> if I set up an edubuntu server with a tv tuner card, will the clients be able to use it? ei: run tvtime?
[04:14] <anders339> they were extra laggish before the ati drivers.
[04:14] <lhds> any icons on desktop app like idesk?
[04:14] <e-type> FlyingSquirrel32: you mean like sharing a device directly?
[04:14] <siofwolves_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ is back up :D
[04:14] <GaTTo> help !
[04:14] <tRSS> is there a way to mount windows network share from shell/bash?
[04:14] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, you know more about your computer than those childish leet speaking kids anyway
[04:15] <darksoul_> siofwolves, its been up forever.. it just takes 3 minutes to load at times...
[04:15] <siofwolves_> ah k
[04:15] <erUSUL> GaTTo: what's the problem?
[04:15] <GaTTo> live boot
[04:15] <lhds> e-type hi do you know any idesk like software?
[04:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> e-type: well my idea is that if a client runs tvtime, since the software is really running on the server, it will be able to grab the data from the tv tuner card
[04:15] <e-type> lhds: hi there
[04:15] <cybergypsy> trying to do an apt-get update/upgrade/install is *real* slow atm , is it the server or me ?
[04:15] <Linuturk_code> what is idesk?
[04:15] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, True, but im still a little new at linux, i have been using it for about a year but most of the time its just to run a term server
[04:15] <e-type> lhds: describe idesk
[04:15] <anders339> i try rebotting abain.
[04:15] <anders339> again*
[04:16] <GaTTo> ERUSUL ?
[04:16] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i have to get to know everything GUI wise
[04:16] <Linuturk_code> lhds, what is idesk?
[04:16] <erUSUL> GaTTo: some details please... if it will no boot try booting with acpi=off
[04:16] <endemic> is there any way to get w32codecs working with AMD64? I've been looking around this morning but what I seem to find is out dated or does not work
[04:16] <lhds> puts icons on blackbox's desk
[04:16] <oiad_> bla selber
[04:16] <misieq> !enlightenment
[04:16] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:16] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, do you know what will make me even more sad? if css will run on cedega..
[04:16] <kling0n> which package do I need todpkg- reconfigure to re-check all .desktop files?
[04:16] <e-type> FlyingSquirrel32: linux doesn't allow sharing of devices. what you could do is let the server stream it to a webserver wich lan clients can grab
[04:16] <e-type> FlyingSquirrel32: but you can't share devices
[04:17] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, don't pay for it . . . expecially a monthly fee
[04:17] <misieq> is enlightenment E17 already usable?
[04:17] <e-type> lhds: how "heavy" would you like it, or how minimal? :)
[04:17] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, wine 1.0 is right around the corner
[04:17] <lhds> hein? i just need to setup an icon that runs sox command for my tv sound
[04:18] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i did once, and hated myself afterwords, it takes so much cpu and ram JUST to run, its not funny
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> misieq,  i hear its useable to show off its eye candy. :P but  best is to try it and see if it works good for yourself.
[04:18] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, i couldn't even play Simcity4 without MAJOR lag..
[04:18] <JackMacOKC> Linuturk_code: why not pay for cedega? i see nothing wrong with supporting something that works well. cedega plays my games pretty well for the most part
[04:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> e-type: ok, I think streaming it would be pretty complicated, no?
[04:18] <misieq> Dr_Willis: how can i install it on ubuntu?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> SimCity4 - now that was a dissapointing game.
[04:18] <e-type> lhds: you could use idesk itself, rox, nautilus, ...
[04:18] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, whats diffrent with wine 1.0 compaired to the version we have now?
[04:19] <GaTTo> ERUSUL I SEND U A PRIVATE MESSAGE
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> misieq,  the E17 homepage has links to a Script that can auto-install/download/ the latest versions from source. is what would be best I think
[04:19] <GaTTo> ops sorry for cap
[04:19] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: I like cedega, i think it does pretty well all things considered
[04:19] <misieq> Dr_Willis: oh, thanks
[04:19] <e-type> FlyingSquirrel32: depends on your time and effort I guess
[04:19] <misieq> Dr_Willis: one more thing... i wonder how would it would work with xgl? there shouldn't be any problems i suppose...
[04:20] <JackMacOKC> tRSS: whats the problem?
[04:20] <lhds> e-type idesk gives back errors once i run it
[04:20] <Linuturk_code> JackMacOKC, i don't agree with how cedega came about
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> misieq,  read at   http://www4.get-e.org/  - they say E is broken at this time.. :P do not update.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> misieq,  and i wouldent even TOUCH  XGL at this time.
[04:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> e-type: what software would I do that with? any directions? can you point me in the right direction?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> misieq,  :P
[04:20] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, well all things considered, all your money is letting them buy staff to code, but in the end wine will win, just like how Linux will kill microsoft in time, why? because its open source... well i think wine is anyway
[04:20] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, it's supposed to be a major release. you have .9 something something
[04:20] <misieq> i'll just tryout the ubuntu's E 16.7
[04:20] <JackMacOKC> Linuturk_code: yeah, a lot of people don't. i see that side too, but i have to move on at some point and support it. i personally dont like what they did, but they did so lets move on and try to make gaming good in linux
[04:20] <tRSS> JackMacOKC: is there a way to mount and access windows network shares from shell/bash?
[04:21] <ompaul> !samba > tRSS
[04:21] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[04:21] <ompaul> tRSS, have a look at the link the bot sent you
[04:21] <anders339> eh, i tried things you guys have suggested, but I can't get Billiard GL work on a good FPS. And this computer has runned Half-life 2 on XP pretty good.
[04:21] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, but i dont want to use cedega just because of the sheer amount of resources it needed to use just to run, then lag in the game for around 20 seconds..
[04:21] <Linuturk_code> JackMacOKC, gaming is good in linux with wine and native games, imho www.wesnoth.org for example
[04:21] <tRSS> ompaul: looking at it now
[04:21] <JackMacOKC> tRSS: man samba
[04:21] <Don_jr> Is it possible to run packages from, for exameple, a suse install into ubuntu?
[04:21] <GaTTo> can someone help me ????
[04:21] <FunnyLookinHat> what file are the nameservers located in?  I can never seem to remember  ^_^
[04:21] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: i dont get any lag in cedega running my games
[04:22] <ompaul> Don_jr, that would not be a good idea
[04:22] <e-type> lhds: like what errors?
[04:22] <tRSS> JackMacOKC & ompual: thanks guys!
[04:22] <tRSS> :)
[04:22] <Don_jr> ompaul okay
[04:22] <YoussefAssad> I need a simple graphical backup application; any recommendations?
[04:22] <JackMacOKC> Linuturk_code: i disagree, gaming isnt good in linux period. it works, but its not good no matter how you slice it
[04:22] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, whats your cpu? intel or AMD?
[04:22] <ompaul> !components > Don_jr
[04:22] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: amd
[04:22] <GaTTo> -_-
[04:22] <ompaul> Don_jr, read the message from the bot - it might help explain how to get more ipackages for ubuntu
[04:23] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, well i have a 64bit AMD, and i run a 32bit OS, that might be it
[04:23] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: thats what i run
[04:23] <GaTTo> i need some help why all ignore me ?
[04:23] <anders339> So how do I make my ATI Card actually count when it comes to prestanda, then?
[04:23] <e-type> FlyingSquirrel32: palantir
[04:23] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, well im not sure what it is then, it just took forever to do anything.. it might have been the UBUNTU i had at the time..
[04:23] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: i have an amd64x2 4400 running k7-smp
[04:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> e-type: thanks. I'll look into that.
[04:23] <Linuturk_code> GaTTo, most likely, we don't know how to help. we aren't ignoring you on purpose. keep in mind we are volunteers
[04:23] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, how did you get CSS working anyway? what version of windows did you use?
[04:24] <Don_jr> where can I find the text base install for ubuntu?  I'm having trouble getting it installed through the live CD
[04:24] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: i dont run css. i run battlefield 2
[04:24] <hush`afk> My linux won't start-up - I've been wondering what was wrong with it for a few days. Last night I booted to WinXP and checked out ubuntu.com and saw the green headline with the steps to fix the error I am getting - I followed the instructions.. but for some reason it's still not fixed
[04:24] <Linuturk_code> Don_jr, download the alternate cd
[04:24] <FunnyLookinHat> what file are the nameservers located in?
[04:24] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: which by my accounts is a pretty hungry game, and it runs pretty well under linux. i have a few issues i'm working out, but its linux - and its a windows game.
[04:24] <anders339> can you run battle-field 2 with wine?
[04:24] <GaTTo> Linuturk but what i need to know is ubuntu support ati card ???
[04:24] <JackMacOKC> anders339: no
[04:24] <anders339> -.-
[04:24] <darksoul_> well cs 1.6 i have no issues on
[04:25] <darksoul_> css wont even start.
[04:25] <Don_jr> Linuturk_code I'll try that again, it kept timing out on me earlier
[04:25] <Linuturk_code> !ati > GaTTo
[04:25] <anders339> So, I have to buy Cegeda..
[04:25] <Linuturk_code> Don_jr, try out the torrent
[04:25] <JackMacOKC> anders339: let me take that back, i dont know for a fact, but i'm pretty sure that it wont run in wine
[04:25] <anders339> Or downloaded buy torrent :D
[04:25] <GaTTo> Linuturk what mean ati gatto o_0
[04:25] <JackMacOKC> anders339: thats what i had to do. i just did the 15 bucks for 3 months to try it out. so far its pretty good, there are a few kinks, but i'm impressed overall
[04:25] <Linuturk_code> GaTTo, check your pm's
[04:26] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, well i managed to get it running about a month ago.. on kubuntu.
[04:26] <Wiilank> Question guys: as a new user, i'm trying to get X into 1024x768...can someone give me an idea of what I should look for and what I need to do to troubleshoot this?
[04:26] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: you got css running under kubuntu but not ubuntu?
[04:26] <hush> my linux wont start up
[04:26] <GaTTo> Linuturk what's a pm ?
[04:26] <darksoul_> JackMacOKC, ubuntu always seems to have problems with CSS and i dont know why.
[04:26] <kling0n> Wiilank: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:26] <darksoul_> no ubuntu is like a dead end for CSS
[04:26] <JackMacOKC> darksoul_: thats weird
[04:26] <kling0n> Wiilank: *sudo* dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:26] <jason_> I have a quick question.  Is there an equivalent of the "Remote Desktop Connection" in Ubuntu (or gnome)?
[04:26] <anders339> well, then I can't get my ATI Card, to work?
[04:26] <Linuturk_code> !ati
[04:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <anders339> WHat the hell.
[04:26] <Linuturk_code> GaTTo,
[04:26] <JackMacOKC> jason_: yes, vnc
[04:26] <Linuturk_code> check that site for instructions for ati
[04:26] <hush> guys I need some help.
[04:27] <GaTTo> Linuturk i cant read this chat :(
[04:27] <ferzr> how can I change my screen resolution
[04:27] <Wiilank> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server with no luck...will modifying my xorg.conf help any?
[04:27] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) ?
[04:27] <Linuturk_code> what is your native language GaTTo ?
[04:27] <GaTTo> linuturk italian
[04:27] <darksoul_> please let this be a fix for me..
[04:27] <Linuturk_code> !italian
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <bbrazil> !it
[04:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:27] <atsugnam> gah, still can't get nvidia drivers to work on toshiba 1410
[04:27] <darksoul_> ..not again, the freekin ubuntu forums froze!
[04:27] <Linuturk_code> thanks bbrazil
[04:27] <kling0n> Wiilank: check your screen section.. look for default colour depth, then remove the alternative resolutions and see if it works.. if not, you most likely have an issue with your sync settings
[04:28] <atsugnam> has anyone got it working with a GF 420 Go vid card?
[04:28] <Linuturk_code> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! GaTTo
[04:28] <slobokan> I have been running Ubuntu on a dual boot machine for about a month now.  When i booted this morning I am getting a boot error, that /dev/hda3 failed : no such device.  Is there anyway I can recover this?
[04:28] <GaTTo> ok thanks bye
[04:28] <ferzr> hello I need a little help with ubuntu
[04:29] <kling0n> slobokan: did you change the hardware configuration on the machine?
[04:29] <kling0n> slobokan: new hard disks or similar
[04:29] <slobokan> kling0n: no I did not. Nothing changed.  Used the machine as normal last night, and shut down as usual.
[04:29] <selinuxium> Hi all I am trying to get my laptop to use the old radeon drivers as the ati ones cause my V old laptop to hang. Xorg loads the radeon driver then it loads the ati driver. How can I stop this?
[04:29] <Wiilank> kling0n: thanks I'll try to see if that helps
[04:29] <selinuxium> Hi Seveas :)
[04:30] <kling0n> slobokan: can you be more specific as to the error message? is your other OS booting correctly?
[04:31] <kling0n> selinuxium: check your xorg.conf.. make sure you only have one device section for graphics (keep the radeon one)
[04:32] <selinuxium> kling0n: I have, it is a real pain!
[04:32] <Khamael> can I use qemu for installing files via windows for a pda?
[04:32] <kling0n> selinuxium: pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:32] <selinuxium> kling0n: k
[04:32] <zenek187> dzien dobry
[04:33] <Linuturk_code> Khamael, some pda's are supported on linux. try searching your pda's model number on the forums, or in google, such as "modelnumber linux"
[04:33] <atsugnam> gah, on top of this, sometimes when it tries to load, it completely freezes, no way to get control of machine, and have to reboot....
[04:33] <zax1> can anyone recomend a good channel for help with web design and php ?
[04:34] <selinuxium> zax1: #phpfreaks
[04:34] <slobokan> kling0n: Yes, when I boot I get the normal, "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." message, then it goes into the gui, until it attempts to mount the root file system, then it kicks back out and says: "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed : No such device"
[04:34] <atsugnam> is there like a safe mode or something I can run startx under to test but keep access to a terminal?
[04:34] <ferzr> can anybody help me with the screen resolution?
[04:34] <Khamael> Linuturk_code: it is supported, but there was a problem with new software, and all the restore files are in .exe
[04:34] <slobokan> kling0n: and yes, the other OS boots just fine, unfortunately (LOL)
[04:34] <atsugnam> ferzr, what do you need to do?
[04:34] <selinuxium> zax1: ##css
[04:34] <zax1> selinuxium: thanks
[04:34] <atsugnam> ie, just change it, or, can you not change it to what you want?
[04:35] <Linuturk_code> Khamael, what are the *.exe's ? compressed archives ? have you tried wine?
[04:35] <atsugnam> bleh, have to restart x
[04:35] <atsugnam> bbl
[04:35] <Khamael> Linuturk_code: I will try wine first,then
[04:35] <darksoul_> ..now it just isint being fair!
[04:35] <kling0n> slobokan: from the grub loader try pressing 'e' on the kernel and then append "single" after the parameters
[04:35] <kling0n> that way you should be able to boot in single user mode
[04:35] <kling0n> then fdisk /dev/hda
[04:35] <kling0n> and press 'p'
[04:36] <kling0n> verify against /etc/fstab
[04:36] <hush> Who do I pay to get some help around here.. it looks like all of you are helping 1 person
[04:36] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [III] ?
[04:36] <Linuturk_code> hush, what do you need?
[04:37] <Don_jr> what is the differencebetween start ubuntu and start ubuntu in safe graphics mode?
[04:37] <ferzr> can anybody help mi with the screen resolution?
[04:37] <selinuxium> zax1: Take a look at www.phpfreaks.com aswell
[04:37] <Linuturk_code> hush, and we are all volunteers, you'd have to goto www.ubuntu.com and click the Support tab. You can contact professional support through there if you want to pay for support
[04:37] <darksoul_> Should i get winetools
[04:37] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, should i get wine tools
[04:38] <Linuturk_code> wine doesn't offically support it, so it's really up to you
[04:38] <Linuturk_code> i don't have it installed
[04:38] <covOPprometheus> ferzr, what is the problem?
[04:38] <zax1> selinuxium: thanks, i need some help now, that why i thought irc would be thjje way
[04:38] <e-type> ferzr: what's the problem
[04:38] <e-type> :)
[04:38] <shawnr_> anyone suggest a good programming language for writing gnome apps ?
[04:38] <ferzr> I want to change the resolution
[04:38] <slobokan> kling0n:  Add 'single' to the end of the parameters on the kernel line yes?
[04:38] <darksoul_> YESS
[04:38] <selinuxium> kling0n: Paste @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21543  :)
[04:38] <darksoul_> YESSSS
[04:38] <darksoul_> YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
[04:38] <lilbit> does someone here know of a way to list all the user accounts that exist on a dapper server?
[04:38] <hush> where is madpilot and all the other HELPFUL people...
[04:39] <kling0n> slobokan: yup :)
[04:39] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, it just needed windows 98!
[04:39] <e-type> lilbit: '$ cat /etc/passwd'
[04:39] <slobokan> kling0n:  still getting the same error
[04:39] <Linuturk_code> hush, are you blind?
[04:39] <lilbit> e-type, thanks
[04:39] <Linuturk_code> hush, and we are all volunteers, you'd have to goto www.ubuntu.com and click the Support tab. You can contact professional support through there if you want to pay for support
[04:39] <YoussefAssad> how about cat /etc/passwd | grep 'sh'
[04:40] <darksoul_> *dances* i got css working!
[04:40] <SpComb> or grep sh /etc/passwd
[04:40] <e-type> cat abuse
[04:40] <kling0n> selinuxium: that seems to look right.... what ati driver are you loading? fglrx?
[04:40] <hush> Linuturk - you don't want to offer help?
[04:40] <YoussefAssad> cat /etc/passwd | grep 'sh$'
[04:40] <tRSS> what is the command for searching for .mp3 (or any .extension) files from shell/bash?
[04:40] <YoussefAssad> locate .mp3
[04:40] <Linuturk_code> gg darksoul_
[04:40] <e-type> more cat abuse! someone call greenpeacs!
[04:40] <YoussefAssad> difficult to memorize, I know
[04:40] <hush> Linuturk: check the topic of THIS CHANNEL.
[04:40] <e-type> :)
[04:40] <selinuxium> kling0n: I dont wan to load any... I only want radeon to start.
[04:40] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, oh god.. lag
[04:40] <hush>  Now talking in #ubuntu
[04:40] <hush> [08:23]  * Topic is 'Official Ubuntu support channel.
[04:40] <Don_jr> Can anyone tell me why when I load safe graphics mode it drops me to a bash cli?
[04:40] <YoussefAssad> e-type: apologies! I know cat is not necessary there :)
[04:41] <e-type> YoussefAssad: hehe ;)
[04:41] <kling0n> selinuxium: thats the point :) try running 'lsmod' and check to see if it's loaded
[04:41] <kling0n> 'otherwise pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:41] <Wiilank> To be honest, I wanna thank everyone for being so helpful (those who are offering advice). I'm quite use to getting rtfm with these sorta things
[04:41] <YoussefAssad> e-type: My brain says "no cat" and my fingers go on and type it anyhow
[04:41] <tRSS> thanks YoussefAssad (or should I say shuk-run)! :)
[04:41] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [IV] ?
[04:41] <Linuturk_code> hush, this is the offical free support, yes. we are VOLUNTEERS. if you want pay for support, follow the directions I gave you
[04:41] <kling0n> slobokan i'd get a live cd of sorts and try booting from that, then mount your linus fs adn verify
[04:41] <e-type> ferzr: preferences menu has a screen resolution tool
[04:41] <YoussefAssad> you're very welcome, tRSS :)
[04:42] <kling0n> slobokan: perhabs run fsck
[04:42] <e-type> YoussefAssad: hehe, habits :)
[04:42] <YoussefAssad> e-type: patterend finger muscles... :)
[04:42] <e-type> lol
[04:42] <e-type> YoussefAssad: will that be genetic? :)
[04:42] <hush> Linuturk are you an idiot.. I'm in here asking for help and you are telling me to go pay to get help.. screw you - your kind of help isnt needed ass
[04:42] <darksoul_> THE LAG
[04:42] <darksoul_> ARHHH
[04:42] <kling0n> countdown
[04:42] <selinuxium> kling0n: I cant see any reference to ati. :)
[04:43] <e-type> hush: that's not how you'll get a lot of help
[04:43] <kling0n> selinuxium: how do you tell that it is loading the "new" driver then?
[04:43] <Ng> !attitude
[04:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:43] <Wiilank> can i probe my hardware (cpu, memory, video) and get responses back from the command line or do I have to write programs which grep that info from conf files?
 Who do I pay to get some help around here.. it looks like all of you are helping 1 person | Linuturk_code> hush, what do you need?
[04:43] <YoussefAssad> e-type: wouldn't that be cool, toddlers going :wq all over the place
[04:43] <darksoul_> god..
[04:43] <darksoul_> lag..
[04:43] <e-type> YoussefAssad: rofl!
[04:43] <darksoul_> horrible
[04:43] <slobokan> kling0n:  I have the live cd.  I will try that, thanks.
[04:43] <user2_> hi everyone
[04:43] <selinuxium> kling0n: in /var/log/Xorg.0.blah
[04:43] <oiad_> bla selber
[04:43] <hush> Linuturk: that is called sarcasm. welcome to the internet kid
[04:43] <YoussefAssad> okay, I've got a LUG meeting. Thanks for the help people. Later!
[04:43] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [V] ?
[04:44] <moe_evil> hi
[04:44] <Ng> hush: Linuturk_code: please take your argument somewhere else
[04:44] <hush> TY Ng
[04:44] <kling0n> selinuxium: have you tried using the 'ati' driver in stead of 'radeon' ?
[04:44] <Don_jr> God I hope this install works finally....
[04:44] <Daardvark> rukuartic - i didn't notice your message before, thank you :)
[04:44] <e-type> covOPprometheus: if nautilus properties are unchangeable, check the ownership
[04:45] <covOPprometheus> e-type: ok, let me check
[04:45] <selinuxium> kling0n: the ati driver causes my laptop to freeze. I have to use the vesa driver to stop it from happening. not ideal.
[04:45] <internat> ok can anyone explain why i get sound when i do stuff in kde and when i click the test sound in the hardware setup, but kaffine give me no sound what so ever
[04:45] <e-type> covOPprometheus: sorry, if the items in the file properties dialog in nautilus are unchangeable, more correctly
[04:45] <Don_jr> Can anyone confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card for routers is compatible with ubuntu?
[04:45] <kling0n> what about the atimisc?
[04:45] <jujimufu> how do I change GDM themes?
[04:46] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, even though i have no use for this yet, can ya tell me why winecfg / audio section freezes the wine.cfg..
[04:46] <frying_fish> internat: its probably not using the same sound output
[04:46] <frying_fish> jujimufu: system->administration->login window
[04:46] <internat> and how do i change that?
[04:46] <internat> cause i just realised vlc is doing the same thing
[04:46] <dennda__> hi. i want to install an nvidia geforce 2 mx. which driver package do i need? is it nvidia-glx or is it nvidia-glx-legacy?
[04:46] <frying_fish> darksoul_: I think its an issue with jack audio stuff.
[04:46] <frying_fish> internat: change their sound output
[04:46] <ericz> dennda__ i have a geforce 2 mx 400 and use nvidia-flx, works fine
[04:46] <e-type> dennda__: legacy, geforce 2 is old
[04:46] <ericz> nvidia-glx*
[04:47] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, mine does it too. I was told to leave the OSS drivers checked, and no others. it still does lag a little, but it's the best working solution I've found
[04:47] <frying_fish> I am guessing kde isn't using alsa or something like that, try alsamixer to set up your sound with alsa, then try the stuff in vlc again
[04:47] <frying_fish> or tell vlc / kaffeine to use a different audio outpput.
[04:47] <e-type> dennda__: haven't tried the other package though
[04:47] <dennda__> well, i will try ;)
[04:47] <darksoul_> eh
[04:47] <dennda__> choosing the wrong package may not cause harmful problems?
[04:47] <covOPprometheus> e-type: doesn't work really, they are set to -rwxrwxrwx and no chance to edit em
[04:47] <ferzr> Hello, I try to change the screen resolution but I have only 3 options. and the highest is 1024x768. How can I set the system for more resolution.
[04:47] <darksoul_> Linuturk_code, is there a way to force wine to run faster?
[04:47] <covOPprometheus> e-type: I'm going to PM you
[04:47] <selinuxium> kling0n: The xorg log is at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21545
[04:47] <jujimufu> frying_fish: no, I cant
[04:47] <internat> ok vlc is using sound kaffeine isnt
[04:48] <darksoul_> VLC owns.
[04:48] <frying_fish> jujimufu: it is there
[04:48] <ericz> dennda__ you'd probably just get stuck in a console at the worst, then you'd have to edit the xorg.conf from there
[04:48] <internat> indeed it does
[04:48] <moe_evil> anyone con helpme with partman? I'm trying to use an existing partition. I create the files necesaries in the dev dir, but doesn't work
[04:48] <e-type> ferzr: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:48] <frying_fish> and thats where you go to change them... assuming your using gdm.
[04:48] <dennda__> i will backup it
[04:48] <Linuturk_code> darksoul_, don't know.#winehq will know more specifics than #ubuntu and me ;p
[04:48] <frying_fish> internat: vlc is win.
[04:49] <kling0n> darksoul_: you might try prelinking it
[04:49] <jujimufu> frying_fish: where, exactly? I tried in kcontrol all the options, it's not there
[04:49] <darksoul_> frying_fish, im afraid your wrong, vlc is both.
[04:49] <frying_fish> jujimufu: ahh right, so, kde and gdm interesting
[04:49] <frying_fish> I wouldn't know about KDE, I use gnome.
[04:49] <jujimufu> frying_fish: meh.. ok
[04:49] <frying_fish> darksoul_: I meant vlc is "win" where win means awesome
[04:49] <frying_fish> not windows
[04:49] <frying_fish> vlc does just about every OS there is
[04:50] <darksoul_> oh sry
[04:50] <e-type> fyrfaktry: :)
[04:50] <kling0n> jujimufu: perhaps 'gdmsetup' ??
[04:50] <frying_fish> its the *only* video player I use on any of my systems.
[04:50] <selinuxium> kling0n: look at lines 308 and 314
[04:50] <lilbit> why would someone enable root on a dapper server, is it so that  they no longer had to sudo?
[04:50] <internat> vlc unforunatly doesnt do my dvb properly
[04:50] <darksoul_> now im jsut getting pissed
[04:50] <darksoul_> How do you force a app to use Open GL on wine?
[04:50] <frying_fish> internat: does mine fine...
[04:50] <frying_fish> how do you use it for the dvb?
[04:50] <kling0n> hmm perhaps radeon chainloads the ati driver
[04:50] <frying_fish> as I used the scan stuff to get the channels sorted and output to a conf file, then just load that conf file and it works fine.
[04:51] <frying_fish> darksoul_: I don't think you can.
[04:51] <darksoul_> frying_fish, sure you can
[04:51] <frying_fish> lilbit: thats one reason.
[04:51] <mjr> kling0n, ati should invoke the radeon driver, when appropriate
[04:51] <frying_fish> darksoul_: surely not things that use directX.
[04:51] <Don_jr> Ubuntu is almost installed!!! It's finally working for me!! after almost 24 hours of trying! lol
[04:51] <internat> care to paste the conf file for me so i can have a look?
[04:51] <kling0n> "The ATI driver is very old for very old cards. I believe that if you get 'ati' and 'radeon' confused, then one will switch to the other depending on how it detects the card, but I forget which will switch to the other, or if they both do. When in doubt, use 'radeon' and try 'ati' if it fails."
[04:52] <kling0n> might be the detection of your card
[04:52] <darksoul_> frying_fish, well my 3d acc is so bad on CSS its like 3 sec lag
[04:52] <madman-> what determine's a erroneous nickname ?
[04:52] <darksoul_> frying_fish, any chance you know how to raise open gl?
[04:52] <frying_fish> darksoul_: CS:S uses DirectX.....
[04:52] <frying_fish> surely?
[04:52] <darksoul_> frying_fish, acc*
[04:52] <mjr> kling0n, generally "ati" should work, but in practice yes, you may need to spesify radeon explicitly if ati doesn't work appropriately
[04:52] <kling0n> selinuxium: it reloads the radeon module correctly further down
[04:53] <lilbit> frying_fish, thank you
[04:53] <frying_fish> darksoul_: trying to tell it to use opengl won't work if the app itself isn't written for opengl.
[04:53] <Don_jr> Can someone please tell me if my Netgear WG511 wireless card for my laptop is going to work with ubuntu?
[04:53] <StephenL> I'm trying to get Xorg to accept remote connections.  No matter what I try, -nolisten tcp gets set somewhere.
[04:53] <StephenL> What do I need to change to disable that option?
[04:53] <darksoul_> frying_fish, i understand that, but my accel is so bad on CSS its not funny, how would i raise my 3d accel to a higher speed?
[04:53] <frying_fish> Don_jr: may need ndiswrapper.
[04:53] <frying_fish> darksoul_: better driver....
[04:53] <internat> frying_fish, care to paste somewhere ur congif for vlc that allows dvb?
[04:53] <xst>  I'm having a strange problem: I have configured my first kubuntu box to print, through cups, at my second kubuntu box. It used to work flawlessly but suddenly all prints from the remote box is pure garbage. That is, there are some "@PJL SET" lines and nothing else. The host with the physical printer prints just fine and the test page from the printer wizard on the remote host printed a nice page too. But openoffice/acrobat/etc i
[04:53] <xst> s just garbage
[04:53] <ericz> StephenL: does gdm start X for you?
[04:54] <darksoul_> frying_fish, i have the latest one..
[04:54] <xst> Any ideas on how to solve it?
[04:54] <Don_jr> frying_fish how hard will that be to set up?  I"m totally new to the nix system
[04:54] <kling0n> selinuxium: it is not starting the X server correctly? it seems to have no failures
[04:54] <frying_fish> or correct driver, and don't forget wine is their own implementation of directX so its not going to work like its on windows.
[04:54] <StephenL> ericz:  Yes.  I believe so.
[04:54] <frying_fish> Don_jr: shouldn't be overly difficult, there are a lot of wiki's on the subject
[04:54] <Don_jr> okay I'll do some digging...oh no
[04:54] <Don_jr> error durring install, failed to create a file system
[04:55] <frying_fish> fun.
[04:55] <ericz> StephenL: you'll probably have to take out the -nolisten argument in the gdm.conf - not entirely sure
[04:55] <StephenL> ericz:  Tried that and it still adds the option.
[04:55] <Don_jr> it went back to 'installing system' after I clicked ok......is this going to be drastic when I reboot? lol
[04:55] <selinuxium> kling0n: yes. but I don't know if these would be radeon or ati. X starts fine it just locks up using the ati driver. Is the a command to issue that tells me what driver it is using?
[04:55] <Rope> Im connected to my pc with ssh.. how can i copy a file to this pc?
[04:55] <frying_fish> Rope: scp
[04:55] <darksoul_> Rope, wget
[04:55] <Rope> scp what?
[04:56] <frying_fish> scp localfile user@host:.
[04:56] <pequatre> Hi. Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242874 ?
[04:56] <frying_fish> darksoul_: wget won't work for that.
[04:56] <ericz> StephenL: at the top of gdm.conf, you set "DisallowTCP=false" ?
[04:56] <Rope> for eg. scp /home/rope/file.jpg and then what? (im using windows 98 here...)
[04:56] <kling0n> selinuxium: it seems the messages you get is all from the radeon driver
[04:56] <darksoul_> frying_fish, yes it does, he just has to host a webserver on lan.
[04:56] <frying_fish> Rope: ahh well, in that case you will need winscp
[04:56] <frying_fish> if you are on a windows box.
[04:56] <frying_fish> darksoul_: yeah, but he would need a webserver
[04:56] <Rope> Im using PuTTy
[04:57] <Don_jr> On screen I have "installing system, bar is at 15% and not moving.....mouse still moves.  Should I wait or is it dead?
[04:57] <frying_fish> scp works if you have ssh and you don't have a webserver
[04:57] <ericz> StephenL: well, maybe not at the top, but there's something in the gdm.conf somewhere about "DisallowTCP"
[04:57] <frying_fish> Rope: I think putty has some command line tools for scp
[04:57] <frying_fish> but best bet is to just get winscp
[04:57] <lassegs> where do i start if i want to find out why my laptop wont suspend-to-ram. Ive been googling it a lot and i cant find anything about it. So  I need to find out for myself. Where do i start?
[04:57] <Heda> hi folks, having problems starting evolution - think its a libbonobo problem - Bonobo-Activation-WARNING **: Strange exception (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) from active server registration - any ideas ?
[04:58] <lassegs> Don_jr, My experience is that its dead
[04:58] <lassegs> :P
[04:58] <tRSS> i am trying to find all mp3 files on a network FS, that I mount myself. What is the best way to find all the mp3 files and then delete them? I have tried locate but I can't get it to search only the network-mounted share.
[04:58] <Don_jr> Okay, I exited and i"m going to allow it set it's partition this time instead of telling it to wipe the entire HD
[04:59] <frying_fish> tRSS: find /path/to/start/of/dir -name *.mp3
[04:59] <Don_jr> had to be a mistake.  That's the farthest I've ever gotten with the ubuntu install thus far.......
[05:00] <tRSS> frying_fish: thanks, let me give it a try. one quick question though, I can simply pipe the results from the find command to rm and make it delete all the mp3 files?
[05:00] <aunes> my mac laptop crashed and I've mounted the hard drive onto my ubuntu box. My problem is some folders are locked. How do I unlock them?
[05:00] <juan> hello
[05:00] <covOPprometheus> good morning everyone ^^, as usual I have the same question: How do I edit audio-file tags (the ones seen under properties, not ID3) [VI] ?
[05:00] <daurnimator> how do can i unrar files?
[05:00] <daurnimator> unrar-free doesn't work for me
[05:01] <trappist> daurnimator: apt-get install unrar; unrar x rarfile.rar
[05:01] <trappist> daurnimator: I think it changed to unrar and unrar-free
[05:01] <Don_jr> grub loading please wait...error 15
[05:01] <Don_jr> that mean anything to anyone?
[05:01] <mjr> tRSS, not directly, but with xargs like so (note to watchers: this will destroy your mp3s): find . -name "*.mp3" -print0 | xarg -0 rm
[05:01] <anders339> i can't get the ati drivers to make any diffrents to gameplay.
[05:01] <daurnimator> ok
[05:02] <Ackeubu_> can i change the default screen used after bootup? I have to do ctrl+alt+F7 to get to the inlogg screen..
[05:02] <tRSS> mjr: i have alot of windows users downloading songs and saving them on the HDD, so we want to delete them all, with a simple shell script
[05:02] <anders339> and because of that, my brother want's me to delete linux and install windows xp again :(
[05:02] <anders339> this ain't my computer, sadly.
[05:02] <darksoul_> where is the cedega demo at anyway
[05:02] <mjr> tRSS, oops, I mispelled xargs in the command
[05:03] <Rope> I cant copy =(
[05:03] <Daardvark> anders339 - what games were you hoping to play?
[05:03] <aunes> Don_jr: 15 : "Error while parsing number"This error is returned if GRUB was expecting to read a numbur and encountered bad data.
[05:03] <kling0n> selinuxium: 'glxinfo'
[05:03] <anders339> Cube 2 and Billiard GL
[05:04] <tRSS> mjr: i have never used the xargs command. can explain a bit what the above command does?
[05:04] <anders339> Oh, and he wants to play BF2 and Steam and such things, but that is less important
[05:04] <selinuxium> kling0n: Sorry. one moment kill x for a sec..
[05:04] <Don_jr> aunes thank you, probably has something to do with the "couldn't create file system' error durring install eh?
[05:04] <lilbit> if post fix is processing mail, it is writing to a log what it does, there is a command for reading that log real time but I cannot remember
[05:04] <daurnimator> ok, prob: i can't open xmms anymore
[05:04] <aunes> Don_jr: uhh.. probably.
[05:04] <anders339> I want Cube 2 and Billiard GL run under atleast 30 fps.
[05:04] <kling0n> lilbit: tail -f ?
[05:04] <daurnimator> - it just flashes open then closes
[05:04] <aunes> my mac laptop crashed and I've mounted the hard drive onto my ubuntu box. My problem is some folders are locked. How do I unlock them?
[05:04] <lilbit> yes
[05:04] <Ackeubu_> !screen
[05:04] <daurnimator> whats wrong?
[05:04] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:04] <lilbit> kling0n, yes
[05:04] <lilbit> tail
[05:04] <darksoul_> Where is this cedega time demo located lol
[05:04] <Ng> daurnimator: try running it from a terminal and see if it prints any errors
[05:05] <mjr> tRSS, the -print0 and -0 just make filenames null-terminated (so that you can't fool it with funky filenames that contain line breaks), and xargs generally just takes its input and feeds it to the given command as arguments
[05:05] <daurnimator> ah
[05:05] <daurnimator> ** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: Master Mono
[05:05] <daurnimator> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[05:05] <daurnimator>   serial 8 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[05:05] <tRSS> ooh ok.. make a lot of sense now.. thanks mjr!
[05:05] <daurnimator> wtf does it mean
[05:05] <mjr> tRSS, you can of course do a lot of other useful stuff with xargs in the same manner
[05:05] <daurnimator> S:
[05:05] <reitzell> aunes: I'd try sudu passwd root ; su root and then try as root
[05:05] <seraphim> anders339: you followed the instructions in ubuntu help?
[05:05] <reitzell> sudo
[05:05] <Ng> daurnimator: sorry, I'm not sure, but also, please don't paste errors in here, the channel is quite busy enough already ;)
[05:05] <Don_jr> Is ther a way to recapture an install from where it left off? or do I have to start it over?  And if I start it over would it be okay to just run it over top ot things, or should I reformat the HD and try again?
[05:06] <anders339> yep I have.
[05:06] <anders339> And the ATI Installer.
[05:06] <daurnimator> only 3 lines - would take me the same to use a pastebin - "one sec"; "ok, uploaded"; "url: http://blah"
[05:06] <oiad_> bla selber
[05:06] <anders339> Nothing worked.
[05:06] <seraphim> Don_jr: you can format the partition during the new install
[05:06] <seraphim> anders339: what does glxinfo say?
[05:06] <lilbit> what directory do most log file go to like postfix?
[05:06] <xylaophenan> hi all. i have 5.04 cd and dont have a speedy internet connection. if i install the 5.04 can i upgrade it to 6.06 ? is it easy?
[05:06] <Ng> lilbit: /var/log/
[05:07] <reitzell> anders393:you have tried root?
[05:07] <kling0n> lilbit: check your main.cf for log info
[05:07] <darksoul_> i dont see a time demo
[05:07] <daurnimator> so...
[05:07] <anders339> yepp, i have tried root.
[05:07] <daurnimator> whats my error mean
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> xylaophenan,  may be better to go to the local bookstore and see if they got ubuntu included with a linux magazine. :P and reinstall dapper.
[05:07] <daurnimator> any1?
[05:07] <Don_jr> seraphim when I did that last time I got "could not create file system" and it hung
[05:07] <anders339> It installs perfectly.
[05:07] <kling0n> lilbit: on my system its /var/log/maillog but that's freebsd
[05:07] <seraphim> is there ati or mesa at "OoenGL vendor string"?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> xylaophenan,   upgrading to dapper.. will download  quite a bit of stuff.
[05:07] <seraphim> Don_jr: you got the newest release of the installer cd?
[05:07] <reitzell> anders339: well that's my one idea so I'm out. good luck
[05:08] <Don_jr> I just downloaded it yesterday
[05:08] <anders339> Oh, were was glxinfo now again..
[05:08] <seraphim> try again :D
[05:08] <seraphim> anders339: open a terminal, type it
[05:08] <Don_jr> I"m going to format again and try once more
[05:08] <daurnimator> ok. unrar didn't work
[05:08] <tRSS> mjr: if I also modify the above command like this: "find . -name "*.mp3" -print0 | xargs -0 rm >> deletedFiles.txt" . will it output the files its deleting to a text file?
[05:08] <anders339> oh.
[05:09] <daurnimator> how do i get unrar?
[05:09] <xylaophenan> Dr_Willis, how much mbs :) is it over 300-400 ?
[05:09] <anders339> where should i look?
[05:09] <seraphim> daurnimator: there are two versions of unrar, unrar and unrar-free. you need the first i presume
[05:10] <seraphim> anders339: somewhere in the middle ;)
[05:10] <daurnimator> i have the second
[05:10] <daurnimator> and it doesn't work
[05:10] <daurnimator> - i can't get the first with apt-get - i think
[05:10] <selinuxium> kling0n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21546  :)
[05:10] <seraphim> daurnimator: if you have all repositories you can
[05:10] <daurnimator> .. i think i do...
[05:11] <daurnimator> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:11] <seraphim> its in the multiverse-repository
[05:11] <harisund> Hello! How do I detect if iptables is running or not? I can SSH into localhost, but not from another machine. It took me a while to figure out iptables wasn't allowing port 22 on eth0.
[05:11] <daurnimator> !universe
[05:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:13] <seraphim> harisund: by default it isn't active...you have to set it
[05:13] <harisund> seraphim I know .... I did make some changes and all that ... I am talking about it in general.
[05:14] <seraphim> so it seems you have set it somewhere. in a file or in a gui...can't tell you exactly where, because it depends on how you set it
[05:14] <anders339> fuck.
[05:14] <aunes> reitzell: Thanks for the tip.
[05:14] <reitzell> np
[05:15] <anders339> then I have to uninstall LInux, and install WIndows XP again then.
[05:15] <seraphim> anders339: is there ati or mesa at "OpenGL vendor string"?
[05:15] <anders339> Mesa
[05:15] <selinuxium> harisund:  try      ps -C iptables
[05:15] <seraphim> so you made an error somewhere
[05:15] <anders339> oh.
[05:16] <seraphim> you set the driver to fglrx in xorg.conf?
[05:16] <anders339> Yeah, I think so.
[05:16] <anders339> Gonna check.
[05:17] <madman-> how does one open a wab (outlook address book) file without the help of windows (windows is gone FOREVER !!) ? I have the wab file on my ubuntu desktop now. what linux program will work ?
[05:18] <frying_fish> anyone know how to make lirc control gnome itself, so I can launch programs from the remote...
[05:19] <anders339> It became "ati" once agian, writed fglrx there and will now reboot..
[05:19] <seraphim> good luck :)
[05:19] <Megant> You should reboot only X I think
[05:19] <anders339> are there any faster way then rebooting the whole system?
[05:19] <anders339> how do i do that then?
[05:19] <seraphim> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:19] <Megant> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:20] <Megant> oh, he left
[05:20] <madman-> how does one open a wab (outlook address book) file without the help of windows (windows is gone FOREVER !!) ? I have the wab file on my ubuntu desktop now. what linux program will work ?
[05:20] <seraphim> you don't, i expect
[05:20] <e-type> Megant: what happened to regular init calls?
[05:21] <seraphim> oh. madman-: http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html
[05:21] <Megant> e-type: i'm not running Ubuntu on this machine :P
[05:21] <madman-> seraphim: looking , thank you
[05:21] <ielliott> Anyone able to help with a Vmware/ubuntu issue
[05:22] <giga> what is the isu?
[05:22] <anders339> hello again..
[05:22] <IndyBC> Hello. When the next Ubuntu version will be released?
[05:22] <e-type> Megant: me neither, on any distro your init system needs it's vars
[05:22] <ielliott> Its not detecting my NIC
[05:22] <anders339> ..just tried Cube 2, and it was a slow as ever. 6 FPS, Lol.
[05:22] <shrif1> indybc: should be released in october.
[05:22] <IndyBC> shrif1: ok. thank you.
[05:23] <Megant> e-type: well, however :P
[05:23] <seraphim> anders339: glxinfo says ati now?
[05:23] <giga> edgy release date: 10/26
[05:23] <anders339> I hate this so much :'( why cannot i run Cube 2 at a discent speed..
[05:23] <Megant> Cube 2 is a game?
[05:24] <seraphim> because your 3d-acceleration doesn't work properly ;)
[05:24] <anders339> eh, sauerbraten then.
[05:24] <e-type> anders339: have you got your 3D card working?
[05:24] <Megant> Nvidia is better than ATI at the moment  :o
[05:24] <anders339> e-type = that's what's doesn't work..
[05:24] <Fibertek> agreed....
[05:24] <Megant> I have nvidia o/
[05:24] <anders339> stupid ATI =(
[05:24] <pbx> Troubleshooting wifi here (running 6.06) -- if I can see and connect to APs but, running through the troubleshooting guide, `sudo dhclient` falis with "No DHCPOFFERS received." Restarting networking, rebooting, no change. The AP is working with other clients. Suggested next steps?
[05:24] <Fibertek> i bought ATI for years.. and just sold out to nvidia last week :)
[05:24] <e-type> anders339: follow the ati guide
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> what is the best way to backup my ubuntu progs and config stuff so i dont have to re-download them all again incase i need to re-install
[05:24] <anders339> Backup?
[05:24] <seraphim> my gf's radeon8500 crashes the complete system if i activate 3d
[05:24] <anders339> eh.
[05:25] <Fibertek> anybody know how to change the applications menu ubuntu icon .. ive checked all the forums and nothing worx :(
[05:25] <anders339> search, i dunno.
[05:25] <ielliott> Anyone able to help with a Vmware/ubuntu issue.. Not Dectecting my NIC in Ubuntu
[05:25] <Fibertek> im morphin my gui to osx and thats the only thing left
[05:25] <qsrv> hi
[05:25] <seraphim> Paddy_EIRE: packages you download go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:26] <qsrv> I've got this problem with the power manager - it does not react when I plug in or unplug the power
[05:26] <e-type> Paddy_EIRE: your question has no one answer to rule them all ;)
[05:26] <qsrv> It just reports the state it was in when I booted up
[05:26] <qsrv> any ideas as to why?
yeah i know this but havent found a way of doing anything with them in that folder....there is over 500 odd apps
[05:26] <neuroe> hello
[05:26] <neuroe> is there a way to open a browser window in gnome using the command line?
[05:27] <seraphim> Paddy_EIRE: sure, you need the dependencies for your programs if you want to reinstall them all
[05:27] <Pablito> hello
i didnt ask for 1 way i asked for the best way :)
[05:27] <Fibertek> anybody :) ?
[05:27] <giga> internet in gnome -> lyns or something
[05:27] <e-type> Paddy_EIRE: there is no "best way"
so where do they go do i have to no each 1 individually this would take a long time
[05:28] <Pablito> I'm having troubles with a Genius EasyPen in Ubuntu 5.10...(I'm not sure about the version number)
[05:28] <Pablito> would somebody please help me?
[05:28] <e-type> neuroe: you want a command line browser or just open it from the command line?
[05:28] <neuroe> the second one e-type ;)
[05:28] <daurnimator> how do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?
[05:28] <e-type> neuroe: just the command: '$ firefox' for example
[05:29] <seraphim> Paddy_EIRE: you could try sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the folder where you backed them up...
[05:29] <seraphim> Paddy_EIRE: but i'm not 100% sure if it works without any issues
[05:29] <neuroe> say i want to start browsing, graphicly, from /usr/share/gdm
[05:29] <neuroe> e-type, can i just say "browse /usr/share/gdm" or something
[05:29] <e-type> neuroe: so you want your filesystem in firefox?
[05:29] <neuroe> no
[05:30] <daurnimator> how do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?
i tried that it turned out to be a bad idea
[05:30] <neuroe> nothing to do with firefox just the gnome file browser
[05:30] <pbx> No wifi troubleshooting experts eh?
[05:30] <giga> fille//home/whatever/youwant/tobrose/onmozilla
[05:30] <Pablito> will somebody just lend me some grey matter,,,to solve my Genius EasyPen trouble?
[05:30] <anders339> !ati
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:31] <giga> sorry: to browse your files on mzilla, in address bar: file:///home/uname/etc
[05:31] <neuroe> e-type: say i want to start browsing, graphicly, from /usr/share/gdm, can i just say "browse /usr/share/gdm" or something
[05:31] <e-type> neuroe: what giga sais
[05:31] <seraphim> Paddy_EIRE: good to know :D sorry, i have no other idea then...
[05:31] <daurnimator> hello??
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> moo
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[05:31] <gotama> I need some help.
[05:31] <neuroe> e-type: not in mozilla, in gnome
[05:31] <e-type> Pablito: is easypen a usb stick? or what kind of device?
[05:31] <daurnimator> how do i change a file thats pink in ls to actually BE in that location?
[05:31] <synic> daurnimator: I'm afraid your question doesn't make sense.
[05:31] <gotama>  I'm trying to install xubuntu using netboot.
[05:31] <adaran> how i can pull a single package out of edgy into dapper using aptitude?
[05:32] <gotama> I use the ubuntu installation cd and installed the server
[05:32] <e-type> neuroe: "gnome" is no application
[05:32] <gotama> next I tried to install xubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <baskew> i need help too, but its beyond the scope of this channel =] 
[05:32] <e-type> neuroe: nautilus is an application..
[05:32] <Pablito> It's a serial device
[05:32] <gotama> The result is: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <giga> sudo apt-get install xfce
[05:32] <neuroe> e-type: the default browser application for browsing files in gnome is nautilus?
[05:32] <daurnimator> when i transfer a file to a removable device, it doesn't go onto it - i just seems to stay in ubuntu's cache.
[05:32] <Pablito> (sorry, for not answering quickly)
[05:32] <daurnimator> it needs to be "flushed" to disk or similar
[05:32] <synic> daurnimator: umount will flush it
[05:32] <e-type> neuroe: yup
[05:32] <giga> right-click media icon and click eject
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> daurnimator,  use 'ls -l' and see what the file actually is. then when you unmount a device it should flush all changes to the device.
[05:32] <giga> it will update
[05:33] <daurnimator> ah
[05:33] <daurnimator> ok
[05:33] <daurnimator> -  why not have it be writing automatically
[05:33] <tRSS> can I pipe the results for my search of mp3 files such that they are deleted. basically, i want to be able to search and delete mp3 files
[05:33] <daurnimator> :S
[05:33] <Pablito> e-type: what can I do?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> daurnimator,  its cachhing the writes - as if it was any other normal device.
[05:33] <e-type> Pablito: http://www.kalibalik.dk/anders/software/easypen/
[05:34] <xanic> someone with tv.out skillz?
[05:34] <neuroe> e-type: so i can just type nautalius --browser /usr/share to run it, thanxs for the help
[05:34] <daurnimator> can i set it to not cache the writes?
[05:34] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> press places -> home and navigate from there
[05:34] <e-type> neuroe: np
[05:35] <Pablito> e-type: THANK YOU!
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> is there somethin up with the forums
[05:36] <e-type> Pablito: np, but try to google yourself a bit... "linux genius easypen" is not that hard to come up with ;)
[05:36] <Pablito> :)
[05:36] <UncleOp22> SCSI question: are there known issues when installing to (old) SCSI disks?  I can boot and run (surf, etc.) 6.06 from my ATAPI CDROM, but if I touch the disks (e.g., sfdisk or mount -r) the system will freeze.  Not right away; as if something "stick" at some point.
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I am looking for a screen capture program that will let me selectively capture any area on the screen.
[05:36] <gotama> I've tried again and the message is: Couldn't find package xfce
[05:36] <Pablito> see ya guys, thx
[05:36] <sholden> Question: Has anyone had trouble setting their Gnome-Deskbar hotkey?  I am trying to set it to <ALT>` but it doesn't seem to work.  Any help would be much appreciated!
[05:36] <e-type> Jack_Sparrow: gimp
[05:36] <Ackeubu_> i have different SCREENS on ctrl+alt+F1 to CTRL+ALT+F12, right?!
[05:36] <xanic> tv-out? :(
[05:37] <e-type> xanic: ask yr question, someone may know ;)
[05:37] <maco> IRC on Gaim keeps popping up error messages, about 10 of the same window at a time
[05:37] <FRET> hey all
[05:37] <xanic> hehe
[05:37] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> ui use x-chat
[05:37] <linux__alien> I ve installed ubuntu 32 bit edition and i use pppoeconf to configure my internet connection and i connect using pon dsl-provider. The problem that i face is that i get connected to the internet but when i leave my internet connection idle for some time i am unable to brows using Firefox after i resume browsing. but at the same time i am still online in xchat and i am able to converse with people here in xchat but i am unable to browse and even gaim
[05:37] <linux__alien> stops working and so is synaptic. Could some one help me Please ?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks e-type I will check to see if it does what I want..  I wrote one in VB6 that will even let me capture pics or images that are otherwise restircted...
[05:38] <maco> well i'm trying to use xchat now to make it start working, but i can't get to linuxchix using xchat
[05:38] <neuroe> anyone: how can i make gaim start at log-in?
[05:38] <e-type> Jack_Sparrow: you just want screenshots, right?
[05:38] <xanic> I need a HowTo, I'm trying to get any tv-out settings to work
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> IS the latest update safe.. no problems...
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> e-type: Not FULL screenshots no
[05:38] <zyclop> how do i disable IPv6?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> e-type: Selectable areas
[05:39] <e-type> Jack_Sparrow: imagemagick's import tool does that for sure, not sure of gimp
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> e-type: IS that in the repos?
[05:39] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> what program should i use to make glossy wallpaper?
[05:39] <wick2o> hello, anyone familer with using inotify in ubuntu?
[05:39] <neuroe> s_h_a_d_o_w_s, gimp
[05:39] <e-type> Jack_Sparrow: imagemagick
[05:40] <linux__alien> could some one help me please?
[05:40] <neuroe> anyone know how to make aim start at log-in?
[05:40] <e-type> neuroe: add it to your session via preferences
[05:40] <neuroe> ok thanks
[05:40] <cr3> how can I use a proxy server (which does caching) when synaptics downloads packages?
[05:40] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> can't evn make circles with the gimp
[05:40] <neuroe> you are on a role today e=E-type
[05:41] <linux__alien> e-type, Sorry to disturb you could you help me with my problem. i ve posted my problem
[05:41] <linux__alien> Its quite urgent but i am unable to get rid off the problem . I need your help
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> e-type: Synap shows it is installed... It is not under graphics in the menus.. is it cli or ?
[05:41] <zyclop> !IPv&
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IPv& - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <zyclop> !IPv6
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IPv6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <e-type> linux__alien: not sure, your description is insufficient. try to ping an ip
[05:42] <e-type> neuroe: hehe
[05:42] <e-type> zyclop: to get rid of ipv6 you'll have to remove it from your kernel, hostfiles and modules
[05:43] <linux__alien> e-type, I get connected and i get the ppp0 interface too but when i leave my internet connection idle i.e without downloading something what happens is this. when i open firefox again and when i say www.google.com it says  Looking up Google.com and just waits and then says page cannot be displayed and at that time i am also unable to ping
[05:43] <Kameli> What package installs the OpenGL headers that other applications need when I compile them
[05:44] <lupine_85> !libgl-dev
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgl-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <napkin> wha, big channel
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !imagemagick
[05:44] <Kameli> i need them to compile wine :(
[05:44] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[05:44] <Cadet> napkin: well it is ubuntu, lol.
[05:44] <maco> napkin, yes hard to get a word in edgewise
[05:45] <mr3vil> hi @ all
[05:45] <mr3vil> somebody using xfce here?
[05:45] <linux__alien> lupine_85, could you help me with a solution for my problem please?
[05:45] <e-type> linux__alien: your connection is obviously still open, check if you can ping the ip of your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:45] <idefix> he taskbar doesn't display the programs anymore neither does it display the different workspaces, what could be the problem?
[05:45] <mr3vil> idefix: can you right-click it?
[05:45] <lupine_85> linux_alien: I have no idea when it comes to pppoe, sorry
[05:46] <idefix> yes
[05:46] <linux__alien> e-type, it does not work at that time
[05:46] <mr3vil> idefix: did you delete the things from your taskbar - maybe!?
[05:46] <linux__alien> i tried pinging it does not work but xchat alone works
[05:46] <klaxian> does anyone know how to get an external monitor to work with a laptop in dapper?
[05:46] <idefix> don't think so
[05:46] <idefix> firefox crashed and this is the result
[05:46] <klaxian> pressing the correct function key does not seem to work for me
[05:46] <mr3vil> try to re-add them
[05:46] <AAAle> Kameli, sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:47] <lupine_85> !libgl-mesa-dev
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgl-mesa-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <e-type> linux__alien: try pinging an other known ip
[05:47] <lupine_85> !libgl1-mesa-dev
[05:47] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-dev: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX development support files. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 132 kB
[05:47] <lupine_85> might be it?
[05:47] <lupine_85> not that you want Mesa support
[05:47] <linux__alien> e-type, ping does not work at all for all stuff tried that
[05:48] <idefix> weeeeeeeeeH!
[05:48] <Kameli> AAAle: I got these errors in ./configure
[05:48] <Kameli> configure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[05:48] <Kameli> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[05:48] <Kameli> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL development headers were found
[05:48] <AAAle> Kameli, it's right
[05:48] <AAAle> Kameli, do sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:48] <Kameli> AAAle: i need opengl headers
[05:48] <AAAle> than
[05:48] <Kameli> why :(
[05:49] <AAAle> ./configure
[05:49] <e-type> linux__alien: you'd best run pppd in verbose mode to get some error messages
[05:49] <kk> Kameli: because you don't have the necessary build headers.
[05:49] <Kameli> ok
[05:49] <Kameli> i do :)
[05:49] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I have a problem to play files "*.pls" or "*.m3u" with Amarok on my AMD 64 bits machine ; am I missing pluggins ?
[05:50] <Kameli> it wants to remove flex-old, and one howto said that you must have flex-old to compile wine :(
[05:50] <AAAle> don't follow how-to :D
[05:50] <Kameli> ok
[05:50] <richiefrich> dmoyne those are playlists are the files in the right spot ?
[05:50] <Kameli> 0 upgraded, 45 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <Kameli> :O
[05:51] <AAAle> someone got a freeze computer while playing some games with nvidia and dapper?
[05:51] <cjones> i have  vlc installed and when running it i type ? and press enter but it scrols how do i get it to page ?
[05:51] <dmoyne> richiefrich : what do you mean ?
[05:51] <Kameli> it will replace flex-old with flex
[05:51] <klaxian> anyone know how to get an external monitor to work with a laptop?  pressing the function key doesn't seem to work on mine
[05:52] <richiefrich> dmoyne do u know what those files are?
[05:52] <e-type> klaxian: you have to define a second screen in your xorg.conf. find a guide on google ;)
[05:52] <dmoyne> they are part of the URL like : "http://www.classic21.be/rtbf_2000/radios/21128.m3u"
[05:52] <klaxian> e-type: thanks
[05:52] <e-type> np
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know of a website that sells pre-installed ubuntu laptops
[05:53] <cjones> paddy_fire no but there is a compeny that sells nothing but linux laptops
[05:53] <neuroe> Paddy_EIRE, why would you need it preinstalled? ubuntu works great on mine
[05:53] <Conny> Somebody knows a Java Skat for Nokia Handy?
[05:53] <dmoyne> richiefrich but it is apparently buffering with no sound and error message "no demux pluggin available" !
 i just wanna make sure all the hardware and function keys work
[05:54] <neuroe> Paddy_EIRE, even the volume, and email shortcut keys were automaticly configured
[05:54] <lupine_85> plus, why bother paying for a copy of windows re-installed?
[05:55] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: typically, they will work automagically
[05:55] <manmadha> how to lock the screen .....in breezy it has the option.....how to do it dapper drake?
[05:55] <dmoyne> richiefrich : do you have a AMD 64 bit machine ?
[05:55] <richiefrich> dmoyne no
[05:55] <Coffeegrinds> can someone help me figure out why my box keeps making me download php pages that I'm trying to serve,  I've walked through the steps on ApacheMySQLPHP i think I'm just missing something
[05:56] <richiefrich> dmoyne they play fine here.. 64 shouldnt make it not play
[05:56] <e-type> manmadha: xlockmore installed?
[05:56] <neuroe> Paddy_EIRE, i have a cheap HP latop (nx9010) that works pretty well with it, it has a fast cpu and crappy videocard but i don't use mine for games
[05:56] <Paddy_EIRE> oh nice one i was thinking about this one http://www.studentcomputers.co.uk/packard-bell-laptops/cheap-laptops-uk.htm the ibm at the top
[05:56] <cjones> does anybody hear know much about how to use the man pages
[05:56] <manmadha> e-type, no...what is xlockmore??
[05:56] <krazykit> cjones: yes.  "man program"
[05:56] <e-type> manmadha: a package to lock your X
[05:56] <dmoyne> richiefrich ok but do you have any idea about the pluggin used when playing the provide URL ?
[05:57] <manmadha> e-type, ok i will try ...thank u
[05:57] <neuroe> Paddy_EIRE, that seems a bit expensive to me
[05:57] <richiefrich> dmoyne they should just play.. maybe the files arent there
 really
[05:57] <cjones> krazykit hears what i am haveing a problem with
[05:57] <neuroe> Paddy_EIRE, are laptops more expensive in UK?
[05:57] <ompaul> !away > HymnToLife
[05:57] <krazykit> cjones: actually, i was about to run to lunch...
[05:57] <richiefrich> dmoyne and i dont use Amarok :P
[05:57] <dmoyne> richiefrich what do you mean by file : the pluggin ?
 i would say so
[05:57] <e-type> Coffeegrinds: module loaded okay? handler defined for the filetype?
[05:58] <drugme_> Quick question, i'm at work right now. I already have windows xp on one of the computers, If i use ubuntu, can i dual boot it. I do remembeer in suse that was a option
[05:58] <richiefrich> dmoyne no no the files the  .m3u is looking for
[05:58] <cjones> krazykit
[05:58] <richiefrich> or .ply
[05:58] <jpjacobs> !away > jpjacobs
[05:58] <cjones> krazykit ok thats cool
[05:58] <dmoyne> ah so you did not answer my question regarding Amarok !
[05:58] <Coffeegrinds> e-type: wouldn't even know where to begin if it wasn't written in a manual .. /me = n00b
[05:58] <Kameli> AAAle: i installed them
[05:58] <Kameli> what now
[05:58] <AAAle> ./configure :D
[05:58] <Kameli> where's the open gl headers
[05:58] <Kameli> ='(
[05:58] <Kameli> ok
[05:58] <Kameli> =)
[05:58] <richiefrich> dmoyne that was?
[05:58] <thotz> drugme_: yes you can dual boot ubuntu
[05:59] <richiefrich> dmoyne  do u need a plugin?  no u dont
[05:59] <manmadha> e-type, can u say the diff between the GL vertion of xlockmore...what is the diff?
[05:59] <Kameli> hihihihi, ./configure is the most exciting issua =)
[05:59] <AAAle> lol
[05:59] <drugme_> Thotz, What would be good preperation. Do i have to partiton anything before hand, Or can i just use the .iso and install
[05:59] <cjones> can you run xchat from console?
[05:59] <Kameli> i love myself when i can get it done without any errors
[05:59] <Kameli> after that i normally go buy some cola
[05:59] <dmoyne> why Amarok is not wowrking but totem works !
[06:00] <thotz> alternate cd or desktop cd?
[06:00] <ubuntu> kann einer deusch _
[06:00] <e-type> manmadha: patterns use gl
[06:00] <bruker> anyone in here who are familiar with MoBlock?
[06:00] <richiefrich> cjones u mean without X started?  if  so then no
[06:00] <thotz> ubuntu: du knntest in #ubuntu-de gehen *g*
[06:00] <e-type> manmadha: use gl if you got a 3d card
[06:00] <drugme_> I don't know, I haven't even downloaded it yet. If i did prob what i got off a torent site.
[06:00] <manmadha> e-type, oh thank u
[06:00] <e-type> manmadha: np
[06:01] <dnite> Has ntfs write support been ironed out in the newer kernels? I would like to install ubuntu again, but I don't have the time or resources to convert my one shared drive from ntfs to a linux partition ... ?
[06:01] <dmoyne> richiefrich : thanks for your contribution !
[06:01] <e-type> manmadha: it is litterally in the package description ;)
[06:01] <e-type> dnite: use ntfs-3g
[06:01] <manmadha> ok
[06:01] <cjones> richiefrich do  you know of one that will ?
[06:01] <richiefrich> dmoyne sorry idk aromak and how it works..
[06:01] <richiefrich> cjones there are many  irssi bithX
 bad idea to do ntfs write you will destroy your data
[06:01] <drugme_> thotz: it's desktop
[06:01] <richiefrich> bitchX
[06:02] <Kameli> Configure finished.  Do 'make depend && make' to compile Wine.
[06:02] <Kameli> THANK YOU AAAle
[06:02] <Kameli> <3 =)
[06:02] <cjones> iam running bitchx right now but iam looking for a msn client
[06:02] <thotz> drugme_: there is a rather good desktop installation guide available... searching...
[06:02] <AAAle> Kameli, i did that for compile wine for playing world of warcraft al thousand of times :D
[06:02] <cjones> richiefrich ^
[06:02] <Kameli> :P
[06:02] <maco> someone tell me how to make network manager work
[06:02] <maco> please
[06:02] <linux__alien> e-type, I got the problem i believe my resolv.conf has got updated automatically
[06:02] <richiefrich> cjones now u said xchat in the beginning and thats only irc
[06:03] <linux__alien> my DNS entries are replaced with this nameserver 192.168.1.1
[06:03] <richiefrich> cjones so you want a im client ?
[06:03] <cjones> richiefrich sorry brain fart i just got up
[06:03] <linux__alien> e-type, any clues?
[06:03] <gnuts> hi everyone. Recent update to xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2ubuntu10.4 killed my xserver, and dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesn't fix it. it says no screens found. any help?
[06:03] <linux__alien> i am right now having this problem
[06:03] <richiefrich> cjones np man i have two for u let me look them up
[06:03] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> check the forumz
[06:03] <cjones> richiefrich k thanks
[06:04] <manmadha> e-type, i installed it how to use it??i can not see this in menu(places..)
[06:04] <drugme_> thotz: i apreciate it
[06:04] <manmadha> &system
[06:04] <richiefrich> cjones  bitlbee or  centericq
[06:04] <e-type> linux__alien: have you got some dhcp client running for any interface?
[06:05] <manmadha> e-type, ok got it
[06:05] <linux__alien> e-type, how do i check that?
 my DNS entries are replaced with this nameserver 192.168.1.1  <-- that should be your router.. :P
[06:05] <cjones> richiefrich what deposatorys do i need for them ...sorry iam a newb
[06:06] <richiefrich> cjones i have no idea sir im on gentoo :P
[06:06] <E-Jey> I'm new to launchpad and the ubuntu development. How does it actually work? When are the subscribed persons discussing about it? Is it on IRC, forum or mailinglists? Thanks in advance.
[06:06] <thotz> i can't find it :-(. does anybody know where i can find a good installation guide for Ubuntu Dapper?
[06:06] <sambagirl> is there a intranet for ubuntu?
[06:06] <rsk> intranet?
[06:06] <cjones> richiefrich id like to learn that next :)
[06:06] <sambagirl> intranet server package i think
[06:06] <rsk> search the repo
[06:07] <alex_> I can only get a resolution of 1024x768 can anybody help? I need better resolution then that
[06:07] <gnuts> thotz, on the ubuntu documentation site
[06:07] <rsk> !xorg
[06:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:07] <richiefrich> cjones i can help with that too
[06:07] <overridden> alex_, => sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <linux__alien> richiefrich, what do i do please help me
[06:07] <e-type> linux__alien: depends... '$ ps aux | grep dhcp' might give a clue, but best is to check in your interface definitions
[06:07] <wweasel> Could someone help? I am trying to compile libmtp from source, but when running ./configure it tells me that it can't find the libusb libraries. I checked in Synaptic, they are installed.
[06:08] <linux__alien>  e-type any file that i need to open and check ?
[06:08] <richiefrich> linux__alien whats wrong sir ? i didnt read the whole conversation
[06:08] <ubuntu> hi room
[06:08] <pequatre> Hi. Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242874 ?
[06:08] <trappist> wweasel: do you have a /usr/include/usb.h
[06:08] <cjones> richiefrich sweet but 1 thing at a time do you know how to make stuff page instead of scrol?
[06:08] <erUSUL> wweasel: the dev version too?
[06:08] <gnuts> wweasel, are you in the libmtp folder?
[06:08] <e-type> richiefrich: _looks_ like some dhcp client overwrites his /etc/resolv.conf while he's on a ppp connection
[06:08] <richiefrich> cjones in what ?
[06:08] <e-type> richiefrich: can't really say for sure
[06:08] <trappist> wweasel: you probably need libusb-dev
[06:08] <fsancho> hi all
[06:09] <wweasel> erUSUL: no, not the dev version too...is that's what causing my problem (I'm sorry, i've been using ubuntu for months but this is the first time i've dabbled in building from source)
[06:09] <fsancho> i have just changed my network card
[06:09] <fsancho> but now i have a problem, eth0 has dissapeared
[06:09] <richiefrich> e-type if he  has dhcp and sticks his router in that file  e.g. nameserver 192.168.1.1  it should work
[06:09] <linux__alien> richiefrich, my resolv.conf gets changed after sometime so i am unable to browse after some time
[06:09] <cjones> richiefrich well i am trying to run vlc but if i type help or man vlc --help it goes by to fast for me to read
[06:09] <wweasel> thanks guys
[06:10] <linux__alien> richiefrich, any ideas? i am using PPPOEConf to configure my connection
[06:10] <fsancho> my new network card uses the same driver (8139too)
[06:10] <richiefrich> linux__alien u can  go static
[06:10] <fsancho> when i load the driver, according to dmesg the card is eth0
[06:10] <richiefrich> linux__alien idk that app but an sure you can make your box static
[06:10] <fsancho> but with ifconfig -a i see only eth1
[06:10] <thotz> drugme_: yeah, I think you should have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <richiefrich> cjones yes yes  add a   | less
[06:11] <fsancho> where is eth0?? i only have one network card
[06:11] <linux__alien> e-type, i have a doubt i guess i ve found out
[06:11] <cjones> so like "man vlc --help | less
[06:11] <cjones> "
[06:11] <e-type> richiefrich: ppp and router... how... ;)
[06:11] <sambagirl> is anyoine using owl intranet with ubuntu?
[06:11] <richiefrich> cjones yes
[06:11] <linux__alien> when i gave this command cat /var/log/messages | grep dhcp
[06:11] <erUSUL> wweasel: you need libusb-dev (header files)
[06:11] <cjones> richiefrich thanks
[06:11] <linux__alien> i got this
[06:11] <linux__alien> Aug 24 21:06:26 localhost dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason
[06:11] <linux__alien> Aug 24 21:06:26 localhost dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason
[06:12] <richiefrich> e-type where does ubuntu stick the network configs ?
[06:12] <wweasel> erUSUL: Done. Now I have a different error, maybe you can guide me on that one too.   ./configure worked, make worked, but make install failed.
[06:12] <linux__alien> e-type, any clues?
[06:12] <wweasel> erUSUL: hold on, i'll copy and paste one line of error msg
[06:12] <OneSeventeen> where do I find the graphics used for the mouse-pointer?
[06:12] <richiefrich> e-type in gentoo it's in  /etc/conf.d/net
[06:13] <e-type> richiefrich: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:13] <e-type> richiefrich: yeah well :)
[06:13] <wweasel> erUSUL: make[2] : *** [install-libLTLIBRARIES]  Error 1
[06:13] <richiefrich> e-type can he post that for me.. err  linux__alien can you
[06:13] <GuBA> heelo i'm try install Ubuntu Dapper in my Proliant ML 110, but i don't could ...
[06:13] <linux__alien> richiefrich, you want me to post the output of /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:14] <e-type> linux__alien: looks like you got your ethernet interface trying to get an ip, which overwrites your /etc/resolv.conf, and that blocks of course all outgoing dns stuff, leaving your current connections intact
[06:14] <richiefrich> linux__alien please.. pastebin
[06:14] <linux__alien> richiefrich, the problem is that i am unable to browse so i cannot go to pastebin.com at all now
[06:14] <richiefrich> linux__alien  now i need to ask..  so the /etc/resolv.conf is getting over written with what.. a blank file?
[06:14] <oiad_> bla selber
[06:14] <cjones> richiefrich 1 more do you know how to listen to last.fm in console?
[06:15] <wweasel> I am trying to compile libmtp from source. I am getting an error message when I run "make install": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21550
[06:15] <linux__alien> richiefrich, no its got some entry like nameserver 192.168.1.1
[06:15] <richiefrich> linux__alien ok then ill help you browse add these line to that file
[06:15] <xanic> someone who can help me doing TV-Out settings?
[06:15] <GuBA> PCI : Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge
[06:15] <richiefrich> nameserver 4.2.2.1
[06:15] <xanic> I can't get it to work
[06:15] <richiefrich> nameserver 4.2.2.2
[06:15] <richiefrich> nameserver 4.2.2.3
[06:15] <richiefrich> linux__alien ^^
[06:15] <linux__alien> whats 4.2.2.2
[06:15] <richiefrich> those are dns servers
[06:15] <richiefrich> add then
[06:15] <richiefrich> them
[06:15] <Don_jr> what command do I do to check a cd for stuff?  apt-get cache?
[06:16] <linux__alien> richiefrich, one sec see this
[06:16] <linux__alien> auto eth0
[06:16] <linux__alien> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:16] <linux__alien> auto eth1
[06:16] <linux__alien> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[06:16] <wweasel> Help please? I am trying to compile libmtp from source. I am getting an error message when I run "make install": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21550
[06:16] <linux__alien> these entries are from /etc/network/interfaces
[06:16] <linux__alien> files
[06:16] <linux__alien> richiefrich, any clues from this ?
[06:16] <_relachs> I'm trying to set up my ati card, it says that i have to change the identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " in section Screen... But there are 2 Screen sections, 1 of them has the Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] " already, the others named "default"  what now?
[06:16] <richiefrich> cjones  err maybe madplay
[06:16] <linux__alien> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[06:16] <linux__alien> provider dsl-provider
[06:16] <e-type> linux__alien: you can't use more then one outgoing connection at a time
[06:17] <e-type> linux__alien: your interfaces will compete to set gateways and dns's
[06:17] <richiefrich> u can have more then to up
[06:17] <e-type> linux__alien: choose one and use that
[06:17] <linux__alien> i dont know how it got updated
[06:17] <richiefrich> but u cant plug them both in
[06:17] <richiefrich> unless you NAT them
[06:17] <linux__alien> my ifconfig does not have that many
[06:17] <linux__alien> it has lo, eth0,ppp0
[06:17] <linux__alien> thats it
[06:17] <richiefrich> thats fine
[06:17] <chris_> Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me, I'm a new convert from Windows and I need help with my Graphics Tablet
[06:18] <_relachs> anyone?
[06:18] <linux__alien> then how come my interfaces has that many
[06:18] <linux__alien> richiefrich, you want me to modify that file manually
[06:18] <richiefrich> linux__alien did you add those lines?
[06:18] <richiefrich> linux__alien yes
[06:18] <linux__alien> comment out what in those
[06:18] <erUSUL> wweasel: better paste the entire make log in a pastebin (http://pastebin.ca)
[06:18] <alex___> how do i make a selection while running this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for the resolution
[06:18] <richiefrich> linux__alien no add them lines
[06:18] <sharperguy> omg, something terrible has happened
[06:18] <linux__alien> ok
[06:18] <sharperguy> tons of librarys have gone missing
[06:18] <wweasel> erUSUL: I figured out what was wrong, and I am embarassed at how stupid I was :P
[06:19] <sharperguy> but not the packages
[06:19] <sharperguy> i cant een use gdm
[06:19] <sharperguy> im on irssi
[06:19] <trappist> <3 irssi
[06:19] <linux__alien> ok
[06:19] <linux__alien> added
[06:19] <linux__alien> richiefrich, i ve added
[06:19] <sharperguy> i cant even tell what librarys most of the are because it dosnt tell you
[06:19] <wweasel> erUSUL: If I ran make install once and got errors, then run it again, will I have a buch of duplicate files and junk left on my system?
[06:19] <sharperguy> this is insane
[06:19] <linux__alien> this is the contents of resolv.conf
[06:19] <linux__alien> nameserver 4.2.2.2
[06:19] <linux__alien> nameserver 4.2.2.3
[06:19] <linux__alien> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[06:19] <richiefrich> linux__alien  now try the net
[06:19] <chris_> Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me, I'm a new convert from Windows and I need help with my Graphics Tablet
[06:19] <sharperguy> hope i dont have to reinstall ubuntu
[06:20] <linux__alien> richiefrich, does not work
[06:20] <linux__alien> ping itself does not work
[06:20] <linux__alien> i ve not modified the interfaces file
[06:20] <richiefrich> what are u trying?
[06:20] <sharperguy> is there an apt command to check all packeges to make sure all the correct files are present?
[06:20] <richiefrich> ping google.com ?
[06:20] <erUSUL> wweasel: it should only overwrite the files....
[06:20] <linux__alien> yes
[06:20] <wweasel> erUSUL: alright, thanks
[06:20] <vook> chris_, just ask a question.
[06:20] <richiefrich> linux__alien  ping 64.233.167.99
[06:21] <sharperguy> richiefrich: actually, a better idea would be "ping -c 5 google.com"
[06:21] <richiefrich> linux__alien does that work ?
[06:21] <linux__alien> richiefrich, yes now it works but the reply is very slow
[06:21] <profoX`> chris_: what kind of tablet
[06:21] <chris_> Ok, is there anywhere I should go were someone can help me?
[06:21] <sharperguy> otherwire you get infinite pings
[06:21] <linux__alien> i just now got a round trip packet
[06:21] <sharperguy> so can anyone help me?
[06:21] <linux__alien> quite late
[06:21] <chris_> My graphics tab is mindbogglingly slow
[06:21] <chris_> it's a Trust
[06:21] <linux__alien> richiefrich, Great now what should i do
[06:21] <richiefrich> linux__alien then those dns work
[06:21] <richiefrich> :P
[06:21] <chris_> Trust TB-4200
[06:21] <linux__alien> richiefrich, ok now
[06:22] <sharperguy> at least any suggestions?
[06:22] <richiefrich> linux__alien you should be good
[06:22] <linux__alien> richiefrich, please help me. i am happy that you are helping me. i would be really grateful to you if you could solve this problem
[06:22] <linux__alien> richiefrich, the problem is that the resolv.conf would get updated
[06:22] <profoX`> chris_: that's probably something someone can't help you with here on IRC that fast, you would probably get more support on the forums www.ubuntuforums.org then you can put your question there and people with knowledge about graphics tablets will answer
[06:23] <linux__alien> automatically
[06:23] <richiefrich> linux__alien it works? no ?
[06:23] <linux__alien> thats the problem
[06:23] <linux__alien> richiefrich, yes it works now
[06:23] <sharperguy> i have lost lots of .so files for no apparent reason
[06:23] <sharperguy> and i need them back
[06:23] <richiefrich> linux__alien then pastebin me that file
[06:23] <sharperguy> obvidously
[06:23] <e-type> linux__alien: get the "auto" keyword out of your interfaces file for those interfaces that you're not using
[06:23] <sharperguy> i cant run gdm or mplayer or loads of things
[06:23] <chris_> Oh ok, I thought I'd just try here. It's something a friend of mine recommended doing. Thanks for your time though
[06:24] <AstralJava> Hey guys, web-shopping for a new mobile phone, anyone got websites to check for compatibility with Ubuntu/linux?
[06:24] <idefix> my new motherboard has an internal sound card, why doesn't linux see it?
[06:24] <rbman> http://www.phpriot.com/3688  need help dual booting ubuntu/XP,  lots of notes and info posted.  Yes I've read through manuals and faqs...
[06:24] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know of a way to convert/burn the bin/cue files i got to dvd video
[06:24] <sharperguy> and apt to ddpkg dosnt recongnise pacgekes as being boken
[06:24] <sharperguy> *apt OR dpkg
[06:24] <_relachs> can somebody please answer me? :-[
[06:24] <klip> @Paddy: Does it not work with Gnomebaker?
[06:24] <linux__alien> richiefrich, you know what the resolv.conf has got updated again
[06:25] <sharperguy> I might have to reinstall
[06:25] <linux__alien> now its got one entry again
i dont think so
[06:25] <linux__alien> the entries that we added have been removed
[06:25] <AstralJava> _relachs: Sorry, missed your question, could you repeat it please?
[06:25] <klip> I see, then I don't know, sorry.
[06:25] <idefix> my new motherboard has an internal sound card, why doesn't linux see it?
[06:25] <chamo> hello
[06:25] <chamo> !ati
[06:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <richiefrich> linux__alien o.O
[06:26] <sharperguy> !librarys
[06:26] <_relachs> (18:16:40) _relachs: I'm trying to set up my ati card, it says that i have to change the identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " in section Screen... But there are 2 Screen sections, 1 of them has the Id
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about librarys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <sharperguy> argh
[06:26] <sharperguy> i am dieing
[06:26] <sharperguy> i cant even spell dieing
[06:26] <endemic> sharperguy: or libraries ;)
[06:26] <sharperguy> lol
[06:26] <idefix> !internal sound card
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internal sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <sharperguy> !libraries
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <sharperguy> !!!] 
[06:27] <profoX`> rbman: you get chainletter +1 as a response?..
[06:27] <sharperguy> i cant use linux or windows now
[06:27] <richiefrich> linux__alien u can try this
[06:27] <linux__alien> richiefrich, this is the contents of my interfaces file
[06:27] <linux__alien> http://pastebin.com/774956
[06:27] <AstralJava> _relachs: Hmm... I dunno really, either one of them probably includes settings that you'd want, but lemme find you a wiki page that covers ati install, okay?
[06:27] <chopchop_> hi im having trouble with midi. i was following this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240171 but stuck there, the situation is the same as the guy named wpshooter
[06:27] <fallingdutch> i get the error message "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params" when i try to listen musik with xmms using my usb-headset (labtec) - what do i have to do so it works?
[06:27] <linux__alien> e-type, this is the contents of my interfaces file http://pastebin.com/774956
[06:27] <_relachs> AstralJava: I am on the official installation wiki
[06:27] <klip> fallingdutch: is your headset listed in "lsusb"?
[06:28] <Psych0tiC> I am trying to edit my partition with cfdisk, but it tells me I don't have write permissions, and I'm logged in as root. How can I get write permissions for cfdisk ?
[06:28] <sharperguy> how do i fix librarys that have been deleted for no apparent reason?
[06:28] <fallingdutch> klip, yes and snd-usb-audio is loaded, too
[06:28] <rbman> profox as detailed in the paste, yes...
[06:28] <klip> Hm...
[06:28] <fallingdutch> klip,  when the error comes my speaker is beeping ...
[06:28] <profoX`> rbman: shouldn't that be chainloader.. I never heard of chainletter
[06:28] <idefix> ok, I installed a new motherboard after I installed linux, do I have to reinstall verything to make the internal sound card work?
[06:28] <acersales> hi i have by mistake deleted my clear command from /usr/bin/
[06:28] <sharperguy> lol
[06:28] <acersales> how to bring it back ?
[06:29] <sharperguy> sudo apt-get install --reinstall clear?
[06:29] <AstralJava> _relachs: I see, just found the page and noticed the problem. :)
[06:29] <_relachs> It says i have to change the Identifier to "aticonfig-Screen[0] ", but there are 2 Screen sections, one of them already has the identifier, the other one is named "Default Screen"
[06:29] <e-type> linux__alien: do you need the ethernet connections?
[06:29] <acersales> thanks sharperguy but there is no package clear
[06:29] <sharperguy> argh
[06:29] <linux__alien> i have only one NIC
[06:29] <_relachs> so do i haveo to change def screen to "aticonfig-Screen[0] " ?
[06:29] <linux__alien> and i need eth0
[06:29] <sharperguy> everythings dead
[06:29] <linux__alien> only
[06:29] <linux__alien> i dont have 2 cards just one
[06:29] <linux__alien> and i need ppp0
[06:29] <fallingdutch> klip, any ideas?
[06:30] <Psych0tiC> I am trying to edit my partition with cfdisk, but it tells me I don't have write permissions, and I'm logged in as root. How can I get write permissions for cfdisk ?
[06:30] <AstralJava> _relachs: Could you use say http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste your xorg.conf there, and mention how you would like your screen to look like, maybe some of us can find the correct screen section there?
[06:30] <idefix> sharperguy sudo apt-get install --reinstall clear? =answer to my soundcard question?
[06:30] <e-type> linux__alien: I'd setup the ethernet statically or it will overwrite your /etc/resolv.conf
[06:30] <sharperguy> idefix: no sorry
[06:30] <profoX`>  map (hd0) (hd1)
[06:30] <profoX`> map (hd1) (hd0)
[06:30] <profoX`> to put that before rootnoverify? might help in some cases
[06:30] <profoX`> oops sorry
[06:31] <sharperguy> so noone can help me then#?
[06:31] <linux__alien> e-type, you want me to give some junk IP address
[06:31] <linux__alien> that does not matter ?
[06:31] <idefix> I must have committed some serious sin again that everybody is ignoring me
[06:31] <rbman> profoX`, dude! for a second there I though you'd figured it out!....but it -is- chainloader in the file, I just miss-typed it in the paste <blush>
[06:31] <sharperguy> idefix:  same here
[06:31] <profoX`> rbman: oh lol :)
[06:32] <e-type> linux__alien: depends on your setup there.
[06:32] <profoX`> rbman: did you try to put: map (hd0) (hd1) //// map (hd1) (hd0) //// before rootnoverify ? //// = a new line
[06:32] <sharperguy> rw4ohkjggvhl.djn lkjnl
[06:32] <acersales> what package contain the basic command like clear ?
[06:32] <taychouri-a> Hey, does anyone know how to get that Mac Os Style Launcher kinda thing, its like a widget sorta thing, but i fogrgot how to get and use wdigets
[06:32] <linux__alien> e-type, i dont have a router. its a PPP Over ethernet connection. I use a modem which is connected to the ethernet card to connect
[06:33] <_relachs> AstralJava: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21551 But i just would like to have an answer to my question, isnt it simple?
[06:33] <sharperguy> ok how do i look at other things on irssi (other channels that im logged into)
[06:33] <chopchop_> hi im having trouble with midi. i was following this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240171 but stuck there, the situation is the same as the guy named wpshooter, blank line after tried aplaymidi -p 62:0 bla.mid
[06:33] <oiad_> bla selber
[06:33] <harisund> sharperguy: type /window list
[06:33] <AstralJava> _relachs: I'm trying to answer it, to me it isn't simple. :)
[06:33] <harisund> sharperguy: then type /window n where n is the number of the window you want to switch to
[06:33] <profoX`> rbman: did you try like this: http://www.phpriot.com/3689 ?
[06:34] <harisund> sharperguy: did you get my message?
[06:34] <_relachs> AstralJava: are you kidding me? :)
[06:34] <sharperguy> yea
[06:34] <AstralJava> _relachs: Well i don't understand this, one of the screen sections already have that identifier, what's the problem?
[06:34] <sharperguy> whats #ubuntu-untegged?
[06:35] <taychouri-a> Hey, does anyone know how to get that Mac Os Style Launcher kinda thing, its like a widget sorta thing, but i fogrgot how to get and use wdigets
[06:35] <e-type> linux__alien: remove the "auto" keyword from eth0 interface, and restart network
[06:35] <Kameli> Hey guys. What should to do after compiling it succesfully, how i can to play HL2 and install steamCCCCCCC?
[06:35] <harisund> sharperguy that even I don't know. It says that for my Ubuntu channel and I just leave it at that ...
[06:35] <sharperguy> im dead
[06:35] <sharperguy> lol
[06:35] <linux__alien> e-type, so that will solve the problem
[06:35] <Kameli> iios
[06:35] <sharperguy> im going to ask on forums
[06:35] <linux__alien> ?
[06:35] <Kameli> wrong chan
[06:35] <klip> taychouri, you mean gDesklets or aDesklets?
[06:35] <taychouri-a> thats what it is, thanks!!
[06:35] <_relachs> AstralJava: because i did not set it up like this by editing with gedit! It says in teh wiki i have to edit it manuelly to "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[06:35] <taychouri-a> :)
[06:36] <klip> xD
[06:36] <verdurin> I attempted to dist-upgrade a Debian unstable system to Dapper.  However, whilst everything is currently working, I'm left with a hybrid system, including the old Debian glibc, which is causing some conflicts.
[06:36] <linux__alien> e-type, should i remove dhcp also from the file?
[06:36] <e-type> linux__alien: it will stop dhcp from overwriting /etc/resolv.conf for your eth0 device
[06:36] <verdurin> Would it be simpler just to install Dapper from scratch, or is there a way of resolving this hybrid situation?
[06:36] <e-type> linux__alien: just the 'auto' keyword should do
[06:36] <_relachs> AstralJava: So my question is: do i have to change Identifier"DefaultScreen" to Identifier"DefaultScreen" to "aticonfig-Screen[0] "
[06:36] <fallingdutch> my usb-headset (labtec) beeps when i try using it with xmms and i get the error "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params", it is listed in lsusb and snd-usb-audio is loaded; it works with knoppix 5.0, arch is amd64. any ideas how to solve the problem?
[06:36] <linux__alien> ok let me try
[06:38] <IndyBC> knoppix is debian-based?
[06:38] <acersales> no
[06:39] <ompaul> IndyBC, yes and it has its own channel
[06:39] <acersales> IndyBC, i dont know
[06:39] <ToHellWithGA> my netboot installation is failing with the error "Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu7_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.11_i386.deb"
[06:39] <_relachs> AstralJava: ?
[06:39] <IndyBC> ompaul: k, thx
[06:39] <Fibertek> so anyways.. got disco'd earlier... anybody know how to change the applications menu icon...
[06:39] <acersales> ompaul, may be write i am wrong for sure
[06:39] <acersales> sorry
[06:39] <Fibertek> ive checked everything in the forums and does not work
[06:39] <acersales> IndyBC, knoppix is the best live cd
[06:39] <AstralJava> _relachs: Well apparently the wiki page is confusing. :)
[06:39] <acersales> IndyBC, good luck with it
[06:39] <IndyBC> I don't use it.
[06:40] <webguy> in my cron job i have the following line:   php script.php >> script.log  -- this appends the new log infomration at the end of the file ... is there a way to instead append at the beginning of the file
[06:40] <acersales> open and add it :D
[06:40] <Corporal_Dirge> Fibertek, Have you tried changing the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps/ ?
[06:40] <AstralJava> _relachs: You can change the other Screen's identifier to look as intended, and then edit the other so that the identifier's aren't the same. I don't know whether it's needed, since I don't know whether your X looks like you want it to.
[06:41] <Fibertek> yes..
[06:41] <Fibertek> distributor-logo
[06:41] <fallingdutch> #linux
[06:41] <NeXoR> i really dont like the latest cd from ubuntu :( ive installed ubuntu before without any problems from the older realeases but now, i boot up and it starts ubuntu and i click the 'install' link on the gnome desktop. I edit the settings as i like and it starts to install and when it comes to 69% it just stops.. nothing happens, i can still move the mouse but everything besides that seems frozen..
[06:41] <Corporal_Dirge> Fibertek, And then you restarted after changing the icon?
[06:41] <vook> hmm, for some reason my resolv.conf keeps being overwritten with just the first two commented lines, and no name servers below.   I've tried creating a cron.minutely - fixdns script, but it just isn't working.  Any ideas as to how I can lock down my resolv.conf so nothing can touch it?
[06:41] <acetoxy> Yow! I made a apt-get dist-upgrade this morning, and a reboot was required. After rebooting, I get this: http://fulhack.nu/~vigge/pub/P24-08-06_17.21.jpg
[06:41] <acetoxy> Any ideas?
[06:42] <Fibertek> yessir
[06:42] <Seveas> ompaul, damn you :
[06:42] <ompaul> :)
[06:42] <grout58> how can I get all the ubuntu updates from the cli?
[06:43] <ompaul> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:43] <Ng> grout58: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:43] <AstralJava> _relachs: Let's just start with; does X do what you want it to? Cause if it does, there's no need to change anything.
[06:43] <lupine_85> acetoxy: erm, your filesystem looks hosed
[06:43] <rbman> just to let everybody else know, profoX` ROCKS!  (he's a "grub god")....
[06:43] <acetoxy> lupine_85: But why would it be like that after a dist-upgrade?
[06:43] <natural20> so i have some serious net issues: i can't ust FTP, I can't access log-in sites (like yahoo, ebay) i can't access my email.  help?
[06:44] <acetoxy> lupine_85: Couldn't it just be /dev?
[06:44] <lupine_85> oh no, it's failing to mount your filesystems - so they're probably OK
[06:44] <NeXoR> is there anywhere i can download an older version of the ISOs of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <lupine_85> possible
[06:44] <profoX`> rbman: thanks ;)
[06:44] <acetoxy> Hehe
[06:44] <lupine_85> can you run 'MAKEDEV'?
[06:44] <Fibertek> nexor:try bittorrent
[06:44] <rbman> no...thank YOU profoX` !
[06:44] <NeXoR> ah good suggestion.. thanks :)
[06:44] <Fibertek> :)
[06:44] <lupine_85> (you might want to boot up the live CD and do it from there)
[06:44] <acetoxy> I'm not sure... I'm in Windows right now, since ubuntu doesn't work.
[06:45] <lupine_85> have you got a Ubuntu CD handy? live or install?
[06:45] <lupine_85> and do you know what it installed...?
[06:45] <profoX`> rbman: you're welcome :) windows wanted to be drive #1 but map commands virtually switch it over again :)
[06:45] <acetoxy> I've been thinking about making a clean install of ubuntu, so I think I will do that and copy all important files from the old filesystem
[06:46] <acetoxy> lupine_85: No, I dont. I'm downloading it right now. Dapper Drake is installed
[06:46] <lupine_85> It's either /dev, or it's having problems initialising your IDE interface
[06:47] <acetoxy> Hm, okay...
[06:47] <Don_jr> if I install ubuntu 5.02 can I update it later?
[06:47] <Fibertek> dirge:ive tried using gconf-editor to.. but it wont use the custom icon i set in it
[06:47] <acetoxy> Let's just hope that it will work with kubuntu. :)
[06:47] <lupine_85> will be fine, as you'll be in terminal :)
[06:47] <acetoxy> Yeah. :)
[06:47] <acetoxy> Thanks. :)
[06:48] <webguy> in my cron job i have the following line:   php script.php >> script.log  -- this appends the new log infomration at the end of the file ... is there a way to instead append at the beginning of the file
[06:48] <lupine_85> so /dev/sda5 is your "/" ?
[06:50] <fallingdutch> my usb-headset (labtec) beeps when i try using it with xmms and i get the error "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Unable to install hw params", it is listed in lsusb and snd-usb-audio is loaded; it works with knoppix 5.0, arch is amd64. any ideas how to solve the problem? or any hints where i could get some more informations/people who could help me?
[06:50] <acetoxy> lupine_85: Yeah
[06:51] <ompaul> there ya go
[06:51] <Fibertek> it only has launcher-objects not menu-objects so it wont use the icon i set it to
[06:52] <lupine_85> ext2? ext3? reiserfs?
[06:52] <Trent__> Hello everyone!
[06:52] <lupine_85> mind you, the problem is almost certainly the PCI error message
[06:52] <Trent__> I am currently using the LiveCD and I need help with partitions!
[06:52] <eyequeue> lupine_85, many small files?  more normal use?
[06:52] <Fibertek> whats up trent
[06:53] <Fibertek> are you formatting to install ?
[06:53] <wweasel> I need gst-plugins-good and gst-plugins-base as a dependency for an app I am installing. They don't seem to be in Synaptic...
[06:53] <lupine_85> if you just chose the defaults, then I "think" it'll be ext3
[06:53] <Fibertek> lupine:yea
[06:53] <Fibertek> 1 ext3 and 1 swap
[06:53] <lupine_85> there's a small possibility that it's a coincidental hardware failure, I guess
[06:53] <mehrdad> Hi, How do I configure ethernet on IEEE1394 connection?
[06:53] <kling0n> how can i force uninstall a package even if the prereq script fails?
[06:53] <eyequeue> lupine_85, sorry, thoght you wree asking for suggestions.  agreed on the default btw
[06:53] <Trent__> I am a total noob and I have 1 Windows, and 2 Linux partitions on my computer. I want to delete the 2 previous Linux ones, and install a fresh Ubuntu.
[06:54] <Fibertek> go to custom partition mgr
[06:54] <Fibertek> at the installer
[06:54] <virogenesis> is it ok to update ubuntu i've enabled the xgl repos?
[06:54] <lupine_85> ah, np :)
[06:54] <Trent__> I am looking at the partition installer and I am totally confused.
[06:54] <profoX`> Trent: do you know which ones the linux partitions are?
[06:54] <Fibertek> heh ok
[06:54] <Fibertek> delete the extx and linux swap ones
[06:54] <eyequeue> kling0n, dpkg --force-help
[06:54] <chamo> hello
[06:54] <Fibertek> and do new ones
[06:54] <Trent> Why's everyone asking me?
[06:54] <Trent> xD
[06:54] <mehrdad> Hi, How do I configure IP over IEEE1394 connection?
[06:54] <Trent> uhmm
[06:54] <Fibertek> 1 ext3 and 1 swap
[06:54] <profoX`> Trent__: do you know which ones the linux partitions are? ext3 / reiserfs / swap should he the linux ones
[06:54] <profoX`> Trent: lol wrong person
[06:54] <eyequeue> virogenesis, ask there
[06:55] <eyequeue> !xgl > virogenesis
[06:55] <Fibertek> anyone else have any ideas on my q ? change the ubuntu app menu icon ?
[06:55] <Trent> omg, Trent you froob
[06:55] <Trent> I'm gonna ghost you
[06:55] <DanaG> Hmm, TCP/IP over 1394?
[06:55] <DanaG> Beats me.
[06:55] <virogenesis> ta
[06:55] <BDerwent> hey, i was wondering if there was a way to make the speakers on my laptop go to 11 so to speak, the volume has to be turned almost all the way up to hear much of anything
[06:55] <profoX`> Fibertek: somewhere in gconf-editor I think :P
[06:55] <Fibertek> yea i found it
[06:55] <DanaG> I know how to do it in XP, but not in Linux.
[06:55] <Fibertek> but its a launcher-object
[06:55] <Trent> ah nvm, Hes got 2 __
[06:55] <Fibertek> not a menu-object
[06:55] <Fibertek> so it wont take
[06:55] <DanaG> Oh, and the option is gone again in Vista.
[06:55] <ADminS> !backup
[06:55] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:56] <Trent__> Trent: omg someone with my name! Kewlness!
[06:56] <mehrdad> DanaG: I know i should use the eth1394 driver, but how to configure it as a network interface?
[06:56] <Trent> Trent__, Atleast you aren't some dude named Trent Cameron, he keeps taking my nick
[06:56] <Trent> >=(
[06:56] <Fibertek> mehr: 1394 tcp/ip ... ?
[06:56] <Trent> so I have to ghost him.
[06:56] <Trent> xD
[06:56] <eyequeue> ADminS, i personally recommmend duplicity, but investigate for your own needs
[06:56] <profoX`> Trent: lol :D
[06:56] <ompaul> Trent__, can you change your nic please
[06:56] <mehrdad> fibertek: yes
[06:56] <Fibertek> y not just use ur nic
[06:56] <kling0n> eyequeue: tried a dpkg --purge --force-all but still fails due to the preconfig scripts failing
[06:56] <kling0n> any suggestions?
[06:56] <_relachs> After i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx i cannot choose 1280*1024, but i need to set it up for my external tft...
[06:56] <ompaul> Trent__,  so nobody thinks your the same person :)
[06:57] <mehrdad> fibertek: i don't have a working cable right now
[06:57] <eyequeue> kling0n, pre-rm you mean?
[06:57] <Fibertek> ah
[06:57] <kling0n> yes
[06:57] <Fibertek> hrm
[06:57] <kling0n> eyequeue: yes
[06:57] <profoX`> Trent__: can you take a screenshot and put it on line / send through irc / if you are confused? or describe exactly what you see somewhere? you should remove any ext3 / reiserfs / swap.. partitions
[06:57] <eyequeue> kling0n, sec ...
[06:57] <ADminS> eyequeue: thx but i want to backup homeuser only
[06:57] <ompaul> LiveCDPartition, :)
[06:57] <profoX`> LiveCDPartition: ^ same
[06:57] <LiveCDPartition> How do I use the partition manager?
[06:57] <Fibertek> merhdad: what do u propose to hook the 1394 up to ... ? for connectivity?
[06:57] <chamo> I cannot get the fglrx driver to work with my ati card. anyone can help? the log says DRI initialization fail. But I have followed all install instruction.
[06:57] <fisk> hi
[06:57] <mehrdad> Fibertek: yes, using as LAN, just like you can do in XP
[06:58] <LiveCDPartition> Which partitions are Linux and how do I tell?
[06:58] <lupine_85> type 82 or 83
[06:58] <Fibertek> but physically to what?
[06:58] <fisk> how can i install enlightenment under gnome?
[06:58] <mehrdad> Fibertek: To another PC
[06:58] <Fibertek> o
[06:58] <Fibertek> ok
[06:58] <eyequeue> kling0n, /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.prerm
[06:58] <merch> Can anyone tell me why desktop (gnome) links to URL open in firefox regardless of preferences and /etc/alternatives?
[06:58] <Fibertek> ICS
[06:58] <Fibertek> gotcha
[06:59] <eyequeue> kling0n, run the lines of it manually with sudo, then rm the file itself
[06:59] <cdubya> merch, did you change it to anything else in Preferred Applications?
[06:59] <Fibertek> does it show it in the network panel as an available connection mehr?
[06:59] <profoX`> LiveCDPartition: can you take a screenshot and put it on line / send through irc / if you are confused? or describe exactly what you see somewhere? you should remove any ext3 / reiserfs / swap.. partitions
[06:59] <mehrdad> Fibertek: I know that I should use eth1394 kernel module, but I can't hook it up to make a net ethernet interface
[06:59] <eyequeue> kling0n, the the removal should work
[06:59] <richiefrich> e-type we are getting him help :P linux__alien that is
[06:59] <LiveCDPartition> okay
[06:59] <profoX`> LiveCDPartition: are there partitions with EXT3 / REISERFS or SWAP ? those are linux partitions
[06:59] <DanaG> I had a similar issue a few times ago.
[06:59] <kling0n> eyequeue: got it
[06:59] <wweasel> Is there a key in the Terminal that will autocomplete a filename?
[06:59] <kling0n> eyequeue: thanks
[06:59] <Fibertek> so its not in the network panel at all?
[06:59] <profoX`> LiveCDPartition: NTFS / FAT32 / VFAT = could be windows
[06:59] <DanaG> Unfortunately, I found no fix for it.
[06:59] <mehrdad> Fibertek: no, I don't know how to make it show up
[07:00] <eyequeue> ADminS, i "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home/me" regularly
[07:00] <DanaG> Er, I knew there would BE a fix, but I didn't have a clue HOW>
[07:00] <Fibertek> check your device mgr.. is it in there OK?
[07:00] <mehrdad> yes
[07:00] <merch> cdubya: tried sensible-browser, gnome-www-browser (both point to swiftfox) and /usr/bin/swiftfox
[07:00] <kling0n> eyequeue:  thnx... worked
[07:00] <e-type> richiefrich: does pppoe require dhcp on his ethernet interface?
[07:00] <eyequeue> kling0n, np ... if you find out what barfs in the prerm, consider filing a bug report too
[07:00] <mehrdad> of course there is, it works perfectly as a LAN connection in XP
[07:00] <kling0n> eyequeue: im kinda stuck in the middle cause I upgraded to edgy... :)
[07:00] <fisk> can someone how has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???
[07:00] <kling0n> eyequeue: my system is *VERY* non standard atrm :)
[07:01] <fisk> can someone who has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???
[07:01] <eyequeue> kling0n, ahh.  you do know about #ubuntu+1, right? :)
[07:01] <richiefrich> e-type no we are making him static and the  resolv.conf wont be replaced
[07:01] <melia> LiveCDPartition use qparted for patition hard disk it very easy
[07:02] <javicas> hola
[07:02] <kling0n> yup
[07:02] <cdubya> merch, have you tried any other app though....
[07:02] <ADminS> is there any command line to take backup for /home/ ? or i have to use any tool doin it?
[07:02] <kling0n> :)
[07:02] <bean-oh> fisk, what about enlightenment?
[07:02] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:02] <owen_> does anyone know of a program that can access ventrilo servers?
[07:02] <profoX`> why don't they put gparted inside the live cd installer melia ._. wouldn't that make more sense?
[07:02] <taychouri-a> I just finished compiling, and i did make install, how can i use the program now
[07:02] <merch> cdubya: epiphany... desktop url links still open in firefox
[07:02] <eyequeue> ADminS, "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home/me" is my commandline method
[07:02] <taychouri-a> owen_: The Linux ventrilo is still in development man.
[07:02] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:02] <virogenesis> ADminS,  alot just make a tar
[07:03] <kling0n> eyequeue: wasnt aware that it would be this extensive though :) ive been running bleeding edge before (bsd, not ubuntu) but i guess there is more to it than i had been planning after... :) dpkg-reconfigure is my friends right now though
[07:03] <taychouri-a> owen_: Team speak works tho
[07:03] <eyequeue> ADminS, "duplicity scp://remotehost/backups/home /home" would grab all your users
[07:03] <owen_> can you access a ventrilo server with team speak?
[07:03] <merch> cdubya: just switched to mozilla... still opens firefox
[07:03] <melia> i use with knoppix and it work
[07:03] <taychouri-a> owen_: Teamspeak is a whole different thing
[07:03] <virogenesis> ADminS,  what are you planning on backing up to
[07:03] <taychouri-a> owen_: Its like a while different server and stuff
[07:03] <eyequeue> kling0n, it gets easier later in the development cycle, generally, but yes, it;s not for the faint-of-heart
[07:04] <owen_> err, i need a program that can access ventrilo servers
[07:04] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:04] <taychouri-a> owen_: Its hard yo, http://ventrilo.com/download.php, you see it says development
[07:04] <kling0n> eyequeue: my main prob is, im much better at the prompt than in the desktop environment.... I have no idea what happened to my gnome :)
[07:04] <profoX`> taychouri-a: the linux ventrilo has been in development for 4 years or something
[07:04] <profoX`> taychouri-a: they arent developping ventrilo for linux afaik
[07:04] <taychouri-a> profoX`: I know thats what i am telling him
[07:04] <profoX`> taychouri-a: not the client
[07:05] <eyequeue> kling0n, yeah, i fing guis confusing as well
[07:05] <profoX`> taychouri-a: the say they do -- but they really don't
[07:05] <morena> wenas
[07:05] <profoX`> taychouri-a: oh..
[07:05] <taychouri-a> profoX`: ohhh
[07:05] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:05] <fdsd> Hey guys, I have spent months modifing the ubuntu livecd, basicly 50% of the init scripts, the kernel, graphics, everything has been changed, would I be able to consider it my own distro?
[07:05] <kling0n> i got me a nice xgl setup on the 6.06 release though :)
[07:05] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - yes, sure, why not?
[07:05] <profoX`> taychouri-a: my friend send them a mail once, and they replied: "nobody uses linux -- we aren't going to support it -- blabla"
[07:05] <oiad_> bla selber
[07:06] <taychouri-a> profoX`:  I just compiled Gdesklets, and i did a make iinstall, but how do i use it now
[07:06] <profoX`> s/send/sent
[07:06] <fisk> can someone who has some knowledge about enlightenment write a query to me???
[07:06] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - that's cool; you have your own distro!
[07:06] <taychouri-a> profoX`:  Rofl, thats funny. Linux is the best thing
[07:06] <melia> profox it in kde qparted
[07:06] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, well I wasnt sure, I dont want to take all the credit, its totally based on ubuntu livecd
[07:06] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, :)
[07:06] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, its called Dx3
[07:06] <wweasel> Could someone help please? "configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !" I looked in Synaptic, but I don't see any -dev packages for gstreamer. What do I need?
[07:06] <profoX`> taychouri-a: i dont know -- i never used gdesklets -- if you installed it, then it should be accessible somewhere now..
[07:06] <taychouri-a> profoX`:  k
[07:07] <kling0n> taychouri-a: start your session preferences editor and add gdesklets to yout startup programs
[07:07] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - Ubuntu is totally based on Debian... you should think of a friendlier name of Dx3.... like Kitty Distro
[07:07] <InsideJob> hey guys, is there any way to install the sources for my currently running stock kernel (2.6.15-26) on dapper?
[07:07] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, it images failing drives, also copies User directories from Macintosh HDs to external drives..
[07:07] <lupine_85> linux-sources
[07:07] <Ng> InsideJob: install the linux-source package
[07:07] <kling0n> InsideJob: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[07:07] <wweasel> Could someone help please? "configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !" I looked in Synaptic, but I don't see any -dev packages for gstreamer. What do I need?
[07:07] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - do you have a site for your distro yet?
[07:07] <lupine_85> !linux-sources
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-sources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <lupine_85> !linux-source
[07:07] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:07] <eyequeue> InsideJob, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[07:07] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, yeah I do, but its not up right now
[07:08] <lupine_85> then just unpack, make oldconfig, make menuconfig
[07:08] <kling0n> nice name for the bot :)
[07:08] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, im excited, I put alot of work into this
[07:08] <Agrajag> wweasel: apt-cache search gstreamer|grep dev
[07:08] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - ooh I still think you should make a new name instead of "Dx3"
[07:08] <Agrajag> wweasel: you'll find something in there I'm sure
[07:08] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, it stands for Daryl's Disk Doctor
[07:08] <kling0n> InsideJob: or copy the existing config file from /boot
[07:08] <Agrajag> wweasel: if not, you need to enable more repositories
[07:08] <profoX`> Agrajag: I sent him a pm
[07:08] <booza> Hi all
[07:09] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - call it "Pancakes"
[07:09] <lupine_85> make oldconfig does that automagically
[07:09] <wweasel> thanks Agrajag
[07:09] <eyequeue> lupine_85, no, mush better to use make-kpkg and not subvert te package management system
[07:09] <LiveCDPartition> :P
[07:09] <lupine_85> assuming that it's not in /proc
[07:09] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, mmm pancakes.. maybe.
[07:09] <Luna7> Holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:09] <kling0n> eyequeue: I think next time i will make me a separate install of the bleeding edge :) or maybe run it in qemu :)
[07:09] <lupine_85> eyequeue: never had much luck with make-kpkg
[07:09] <eyequeue> !kernel-package
[07:09] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[07:09] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, it would be fun to call it something rediculus though
[07:09] <booza> how can i change the resolution from my logitech webcam ?
[07:09] <kling0n> booza: did you try asking google?
[07:09] <profoX`> Agrajag: and they should be in main, so no problem there
[07:09] <booza> yes no match :(
[07:10] <profoX`> (gstreamer dev packages)
[07:10] <InsideJob> eyequeue, where will that install the source?  /usr/src/linux?
[07:10] <UKMatt> does anyone know what XGL is?
[07:10] <lupine_85> in /usr/src
[07:10] <lupine_85> as a tarball, IIRC
[07:10] <InsideJob> kling0n, thanks...that;s a good idea
[07:10] <lupine_85> once you've untar'd it, it'll be in /usr/src/linux-source-(whatever)
[07:10] <eyequeue> InsideJob, no, /usr/src/   unpack the tarball in $HOME if you like, make-kpkg runs as user
[07:11] <wweasel> profoX`: When I am compiling something, which of the commands (./configure, make, make install) should I run as root?
[07:11] <harisund> yes, eyequeue is correct. Use the home directory itself. lupine_85 the method of extracting into /usr/src is no longer recommended
[07:11] <eyequeue> InsideJob, linus has deprecated /usr/src/linux btw
[07:11] <lupine_85> bit silly of the tarball to automatically go there, then ;)
[07:11] <InsideJob> eyequeue, so when this is done installing, it puts the tarball where?
[07:11] <LiveCDPartition> profoX`: here's my screenshot (finally) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot.png
[07:12] <harisund> lupine_85 the tarball automatically goes there? hmmm.... I generally use -C when untarring anything anyway :)
[07:12] <mrble> Anyone knows, where i can get a tutorial on UBuntu (I really like to learn about it, I already have it installed in my machine) ?
[07:12] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you'd put it where?  /root?
[07:12] <eyequeue> harisund, the linux-source-* are still oldmethod :)
[07:13] <lupine_85> no, i'd modify apt-get to allow package management to be done by normal users (within limits, of course)
[07:13] <harisund> yes eyequeue I am aware of that... I conveniently use the fakeroot and make-kpkg method .
[07:13] <lupine_85> bit like Gentoo
[07:13] <eyequeue> lupine_85, apt-get -b source foo does work as user btw, try it :)
[07:14] <LiveCDPartition> I need help with my partitions!
[07:14] <Agrajag> wweasel: just make install
[07:14] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you'll need sudo for the dpkg -i of course
[07:14] <harisund> what kind of help, LiveCDPartition?
[07:14] <lupine_85> that's what I mean. whatever happened to ~/bin ?
[07:14] <LiveCDPartition> harisund - look, which ones are Linux and which are Windows? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot.png  I want to delete all Linux and keep all Windows, then install a fresh Linux.
[07:14] <eyequeue> lupine_85, have it here ;)
[07:15] <Don_jr> if I install ubuntu 5.02 can I upgrade it later?
[07:15] <lupine_85> some programs aren't appropriate to be installed system-wide; and it's a pity that apt-get doesn't realise that properly
[07:15] <Agrajag> Don_jr: 5.02?
[07:15] <harisund> LiveCDPartition: I am having a look at your screenshot. From what I can understand you have your Windows installation on fat32 partitions ?
[07:15] <eyequeue> Don_jr, one release at a time upgrade is the recommendation, and yes
[07:15] <AstralJava> Don_jr: There's 5.04 and 5.10, and yes you can.
[07:15] <longwave> LiveCDPartition: fat32 is windows, ext3 and linux-swap is linux
[07:15] <fisk> omg
[07:15] <LiveCDPartition> harisund - I think so... but I'm not very savvy.
[07:16] <fisk> no one who could help me with entlightenment?
[07:16] <mrble> LiveCDPartition You can delete Linux boot loader, from Windows
[07:16] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:16] <Don_jr> okay
[07:16] <eyequeue> Don_jr, so from 5.04 to 5.10, then to 6.06.1
[07:16] <LiveCDPartition> longwave - what is "Extended"?
[07:16] <harisund> LiveCDPartition: it's a way to create more than 4 paritions on your system.
[07:16] <longwave> LiveCDPartition: "extended" is just a way of having more than four partitions, it is a container that includes hda5-7 in your case
[07:16] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - is there any way I can contact you in the future to further discuss your new and exciting distro?
[07:16] <Don_jr> I'm having trouble with the live CD on 6.06, but I'm burning the alternate now
[07:16] <InsideJob> fisk, #enlightenment
[07:17] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, sure
[07:17] <Don_jr> and I"m downloading 5.04 aswell, I'll get one of them to work damn it! lol
[07:17] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, dcstimm@gmail.com
[07:17] <LiveCDPartition> longwave, harisund - so do I delete Extended or keep it if I want to erase all Linux and keep all Windows?
[07:17] <LiveCDPartition> thanks very much fdsd
[07:17] <eyequeue> Don_jr, lvecd 6.06 was bad, hence 6.06.1 ... but alternate works for either
[07:17] <diego> hey i keep getting this funny blue screen (sod?) at start up that says that X couldn't start... the error seems to be "no devices found" or smth like that? by the way, i've checked X.org's FAQ and followed all steps there but nothing seems to fix this...
[07:17] <longwave> LiveCDPartition: you will need to keep extended as hda5 is a windows partition that is in your extended partition
[07:17] <harisund> LiveCDPartition: there seems to be a fat partition in your extended. Deleting extended will delete that.
[07:18] <Don_jr> I believe I've got 6.06.1 I just downloaded it yesterday
[07:18] <melia> LiveCDPartition if you delete de boot the windows no work
[07:18] <harisund> longwave in that screenshot what does '!' mean behind the 2 fat partitions?
[07:18] <Don_jr> it keeps hangng at different spots each time...so I'm going to try alternate and see if it works
[07:18] <LiveCDPartition> k thanks
[07:18] <Nimwei> Is there a source I need to add to my list to be able to get Limewire? I've done an apt-cache search limewire and it returns nothing, even after an apt-get update
[07:18] <Don_jr> I just pray my wireless card will be accepted by it
[07:18] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, its cool, because Macintosh Harddrives when they start to fail they cant mount on a mac, but with my cd I force those harddrives to mount and I can backup all the user data, or the disk has an option to image the failing drive with dd_rescue
[07:18] <eyequeue> Don_jr, i always felt i had more control with alternate
[07:18] <diego> Nimwei, limewire is written in java, just download the source from the page
[07:18] <mehrdad> How do I define a new network interface (using eth1394 driver)?
[07:18] <longwave> harisund: sorry i dont know, maybe it means that the partitions have been modified in that instance? the /!\ symbol usually means "warning" somehow
[07:19] <Don_jr> I tried for almost 5 ours yesterday to get ubuntu installed, and I'm on 3 hours so far today, I'm not giving up till I get it
[07:19] <eyequeue> mehrdad, try "man 5 interfaces"
[07:19] <diego> hey i keep getting this funny blue screen (sod?) at start up that says that X couldn't start... the error seems to be "no devices found" or smth like that? i've checked X.org's FAQ and followed all steps there but nothing seems to fix this...
[07:19] <harisund> mehrdad what do you mean define a new interface? Did you plug in a nic and it does not work or something? Or do you want to create an alias for an existing one?
[07:19] <Don_jr> I know nothing about nix systems, this is my first install of one
[07:19] <Don_jr> and the help here as been great in fixin me up
[07:19] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - woah that's cool! you could... be rich... or famous... or really nice
[07:19] <eyequeue> !xorgbug > diego
[07:20] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - is it going to be free?
[07:20] <bean-oh> diego, upgrade your xorg-server-core
[07:20] <diego> how?
[07:20] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, its for work, I come accross alot of failing drives, and other techs I work with have no idea what to do when the drive isnt mounting
[07:20] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, yeah
[07:20] <Nimwei> diego:  right on. is there a specific location I should extract and build the source from?
[07:20] <mehrdad> actually I want to use IEEE1394 as a network connection
[07:20] <Don_jr> Can anyone here confirm or deny that the netgear WG511 wireless card for laptops will work wiht ubuntu?
[07:21] <diego> Nimwei, just google limewire, and click "i won't use this to steal" ...like if..:P
[07:21] <mehrdad> but it doesn't show up in network interfaces
[07:21] <Nimwei> diego: I've got the source from limewire.org :P It's open source. Just don't know where to compileit =P
[07:21] <eyequeue> !supportedhardware
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supportedhardware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <trappist> how do you connect to a fresh install of mysql5 on ubuntu?
[07:21] <diego> oh, it does not compile, its written in java
[07:22] <harisund> trappist fresh install? You could use the command line, or the GUI if you have instaled something like mysql-admin
[07:22] <diego> just decompress it (spelling?) and find a *.sh file and run it
[07:22] <trappist> harisund: I know, I mean what username/password
[07:22] <Nimwei> Gotcha, diego.
[07:22] <harisund> trappist 'mysql -u root -p' and then when it asks for a password enter nothing (since by default it comes with none)
[07:22] <Nimwei> There's a menu editor built into ubuntu correct? I wanna throw it into Apps->Internet heh
[07:22] <profoX`> Nimwei: alacarte menu editor
[07:22] <harisund> trappist oh ... default user: 'root' default password: nothing. This is the administrator for MySql (shouldn't be confused with regular Linux root)
[07:22] <chameleon> trying to watch dvd picture sudenly becomes garbled-vertical lines. any ideas, guys?
[07:22] <profoX`> Nimwei: accesories -> alacarte
[07:22] <diego> yes, thats the one
[07:22] <profoX`> Nimwei: or type in terminal "alacarte"
[07:22] <trappist> harisund: tried that, access denied for root@localhost
[07:22] <Nimwei> profoX`: Thansk.
[07:23] <Nimwei> Thanks too.
[07:23] <profoX`> Nimwei: np
[07:23] <mehrdad> I want to add IEEE1394 connection as a network interface, how should I do it?
[07:23] <Nimwei> diego: thanks as well.
[07:23] <harisund> trappist hmmm... are you sure fresh install and no modifications have been made?
[07:23] <diego> from there, you have to call that *.sh i said
[07:23] <eyequeue> mehrdad, did you read the man page?
[07:23] <cdc> renatofilho, you there?
[07:23] <trappist> harisund: I just now installed it and I'm trying to connect to create a database
[07:23] <harisund> trappist if you installed some other software like phpMyAdmin or something . you might have modified it without realizing i
[07:23] <mehrdad> eyequeue: can't find interfaces in section 5
[07:24] <harisund> trappist then perhaps we should ensure that mysql is running. What is the output of 'sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart' ?
[07:24] <eyequeue> mehrdad, try "man 5 interface"  my error, sorry
[07:24] <LiveCDPartition> harisund, longwave: just so I don't screw anything up... is this good?  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot-1.png
[07:24] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - good for you, keeping it free. ^_^
[07:24] <trappist> harisund: I'm gonna apt-get remove --purge and reinstall
[07:24] <mehrdad> eyequeue: same error
[07:24] <harisund> trappist you could try that. But try my command first.
[07:24] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, keep it free, charge for support;-)
[07:24] <harisund> mehrdad just try man interfaces
[07:25] <trappist> harisund: too late :)
[07:25] <harisund> trappist, ok never mind :)
[07:25] <trappist> harisund: but, it started when I installed it with no error output, if that's what you were looking for
[07:25] <eyequeue> mehrdad, "man 5 interfaces"  after all
[07:25] <diego> ok, so upgrading X should fix this?
[07:25] <mehrdad> harisund: i did it but it doesn't work. can u tell me how to do it here?
[07:25] <eyequeue> !info ifupdown
[07:25] <ubotu> ifupdown: high level tools to configure network interfaces. In component main, is important. Version 0.6.7ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[07:26] <harisund> trappist hmmm... ok tell me what happens after you purge and reinstall. By the way, what packages are you purging and reinstalling ?
[07:26] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - heh, heh, heh, good plan. Are you making free guides/a wiki though? And an IRC channel?
[07:26] <mehrdad> eyequeue: it doesn't get listed in ifconfig
[07:26] <eyequeue> mehrdad, "man 5 interfaces"  after all
[07:26] <trappist> harisund: mysql-server and mysql-server-5.0
[07:26] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, just a wiki
[07:26] <eyequeue> mehrdad, sudo apt-get install ifupdown
[07:26] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - ahh, good man!
[07:26] <eyequeue> mehrdad, i thought it was always installed, but ... that's allapernly missing from your system
[07:27] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, this is intended for people that have never used linux, so I made it feel like Disk warrior instead of linux
[07:27] <harisund> trappist I am not sure ... I only have mysql-server-5.0 installed ... maybe there is a conflict between both mysql-server and mysql-server-5.0 ?
[07:27] <sdferfx> Hi! I installed my system by chroot so the configuration stuff was never run. I did most of it by hand but it still isn't working exactly right, and I was wondering if I could run the installer and just have it configure the system? I really need to do this.
[07:27] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - oooh. Wait. No IRC channel?
[07:27] <sdferfx> I try ubiquity but it won't do a dirty install
[07:27] <trappist> harisund: mysql-server is a metapackage that provides mysql-server-5.0
[07:27] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, I dont think it will be that popular, and the users this is intended for probably wont know what irc is
[07:28] <harisund> trappist ah ok . very well then L
[07:28] <Nimwei> Ugh, I can't get it to work :|
[07:28] <Don_jr> will a netgear WG511 run on ubuntu?
[07:28] <InsideJob> ok..apt-get install liux-source-2.6.15 finished....where is it actually installed?
[07:29] <LiveCDPartition> fdsd - have I got this right? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/avadomers/Screenshot-1.png (I am trying to remove Linux and keep Windows so I can make a fresh Ubuntu install)
[07:29] <trappist> InsideJob: /usr/src
[07:29] <InsideJob> nm
[07:29] <InsideJob> i found it
[07:29] <InsideJob> thanks
[07:29] <Nimwei> Ubuntu operates via debian right?
[07:29] <diego> excuse the noob question, what is apt-cache for?
[07:29] <fdsd> LiveCDPartition, it doesnt do that, it just copies the data from the partitions
[07:29] <trappist> Nimwei: "operates via"?
[07:29] <diego> Nimwei, ubuntu is based on Debian
[07:30] <diego> Nimwei, dunno what you mean bye operates via
[07:30] <trappist> diego: for example, apt-cache show vim or apt-cache policy eterm
[07:30] <melia> download and compile mysql5 from mysql.com
[07:30] <diego> trappist, trying that...
[07:30] <Nimwei> That's what I meant. I'm a tool.
[07:30] <LiveCDPartition> kk cya all on the other side
[07:30] <Nimwei> I'm new to linux so I honestly had no idea what debian was, but I figured a '.deb" file was associated with it.
[07:31] <Gun_Smoke> exit
[07:31] <trappist> Nimwei: we use debian's package management system, which uses .deb files
[07:31] <natural20> any idea why i can't transfer files with nautilus?  the server info is all correct.
[07:32] <trappist> harisund: also have to reinstall mysql-common since I rm -rf'ed /etc/mysql
[07:32] <diego> trappist, so apt-cache shows some info on packages?
[07:32] <LiveCDPartition> Darn I hit another problem!
[07:32] <harisund> trappist lol...
[07:32] <trappist> diego: man apt-cache for more info
[07:32] <diego> trappist, rite, thanks
[07:32] <LiveCDPartition> What am I supposed to do when installing "Mount Points"?
 ok install the mysql 4.1 and this it work from packehes manager
[07:33] <cevap_> hi
[07:33] <LiveCDPartition> Can anyone help me with preparing mount points?
[07:34] <trappist> harisund: apt-get install --reinstall didn't recreate /etc/mysql/my.cnf - do you happen to have an unmodified version of that file that I could borrow?
[07:34] <harisund> one minute trappist
[07:34] <Nimwei> diego: One last question - I've got java 1.4.2 installed according to java -version, but when I go to run Limewire it says "No java exec found in /opt" hierachy..or /usr/lib, or /usr/java
[07:34] <i3dmaster> trappist: try --purge
[07:34] <MystaMax> My computer is telling me I have updates, so I click the orange icon on the panel, and then select install. The computer then states, "Building dependencies tree". But after that nothing happens, whats going on?
[07:34] <Trae> !xgl
[07:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:35] <trappist> i3dmaster: I tried to apt-get remove --purge on mysql-common but it wants to take like 30 other packages with it
[07:35] <harisund> that bad huh trappist?
[07:35] <harisund> trappist I could give you my my.cnf but I doubt if that alone will solve all your problems.. I am sure there are bound to be other broken stuff as well
[07:35] <i3dmaster> trappist: you can write them down and reinstall those back
[07:36] <i3dmaster> or try dpkg -r
[07:36] <LiveCDPartition> harisund, how to I do the Prepare Mount Points thing?
[07:36] <trappist> i3dmaster: yeah but I want to avoid that if possible
[07:36] <fdsd> Does anyone know how I can go about finding what package includes mkfs.hfsplus?
[07:36] <i3dmaster> however, somehow you'd have to live with it since apt tries to handle dependencies for you
[07:36] <Nimwei> Ok - I've got java 1.4.2 installed according to java -version, but when I go to run Limewire it says "No java exec found in /opt" hierachy..or /usr/lib, or /usr/java
[07:36] <trappist> fdsd: sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search mkfs.hfsplus
[07:36] <harisund> LiveCDPartition: prepare the mount points thing? Easiest would be the allocate the biggest partition for '/' mount point and leave some small space for swap, around equal to however much RAM  you have.
[07:37] <fdsd> trappist, thanks
[07:37] <trappist> i3dmaster: I don't *want* to uninstall the package.  I just need /etc/mysql/my.cnf and --reinstall didn't create it.
[07:37] <bluefox83> ok, i have a problem, what is the grub error 2?
[07:37] <Don_jr> yay alternate install CD is burnt
[07:37] <LiveCDPartition> okay harisund - when it asks to reformat, should I?
[07:38] <harisund> probably have to LiveCDPartition
[07:38] <LiveCDPartition> thanks harisund
[07:38] <LiveCDPartition> ill remember you
[07:38] <ardchoille> Yikes, the bots went on break
[07:38] <diego> nimwei, istall jave in /usr/java
[07:39] <diego> ok, xorgfix doesnt fix my problem...
[07:39] <xored_> how to set 2 input devices ( mouse / touchpad ) under xorg 7.x
[07:39] <Nimwei> I did an apt-get of sunjava5-jre ..the stupid thing should have configured itself there ;)
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Nimwei,  it dont.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> theres the update-alternatives that you need to run I think
[07:40] <Nimwei> Ok, may I ask how to configure it specifically?
[07:40] <Jamminpotato> how big is the average ubuntu installation in gigs?
[07:40] <diego> Nimwei, download java from sun's web and istall urself in /usr/java
[07:40] <manmadha> how to do CG programs in linux?
[07:40] <bluefox83> hey, anyone familiar with grub errors?
[07:40] <Nimwei> diego thnanks
[07:40] <Jamminpotato> on average how big is a ubuntu installation?
[07:40] <trappist> diego: that's not the right solution
[07:40] <cjones> exit
[07:40] <manmadha> cc does not supporting graphics.h why??
[07:40] <diego> no?
[07:41] <bean-oh> bluefox83, what is the error?
[07:41] <trappist> Nimwei: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:41] <Jamminpotato> or better yet will 15 gigs be sufcient for a ubuntu install?
[07:41] <trappist> Jamminpotato: yes
[07:41] <Jamminpotato> thanks trappist
[07:41] <diego> how to fix my xorg problem? i'm still getting this "no screens found"
[07:41] <Jamminpotato> trappist: how big do you recommened the swap to be?
[07:42] <GameOver69> i have a silly question .... i dont have a boot splash any more when ubuntu is loading... but i know i have the proper files installed
[07:42] <GameOver69> anyway to turn it back on?
[07:42] <manmadha> harisund_, he u know how to do graphics programs in linux.....My cc compiler does not supporting graphis...why?
[07:42] <Jamminpotato> what do people recommend for a swap size, 1gig 2 gig? how much?
 the double of you ram
[07:42] <Jamminpotato> ok
[07:42] <trappist> Jamminpotato: depends on how much ram you have
[07:43] <Nimwei> trappist, diego, thanks
[07:43] <Jamminpotato> melia: if i expect to add more ram at some point in the future should i anticpate that or just go with my current?
[07:43] <diego> Nimwei, np
[07:43] <i3dmaster> melia: thats not necessary anymore
[07:43] <trappist> Jamminpotato: how much ram do you have
[07:43] <Jamminpotato> trappist: now i have 1 gig though i might get upto 1.5 or 2 at somepoint in the not to distant future
[07:44] <trappist> just get a 1 gig swap - any more than that is a little silly
[07:44] <hellokthulu> Hey -- anyone have Wine installed?  The version (0.9.9) in Synaptic is pretty old...
[07:44] <longwave> !wine
[07:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:44] <longwave> instructions for a newer wine are at that URL
[07:44] <ubuntu_> how do you set a home page in lynx?
[07:44] <hellokthulu> Excellent, thanks!
[07:45] <i3dmaster> trappist: 1 g is even too much if it is just for a normal usage laptop or desktop
[07:45] <Jamminpotato> trappist: one more question, should the swap be at the end of the drive or anywhere in particular or does it matter
[07:45] <trappist> i3dmaster: maybe, but it's definitely not too little
[07:45] <cello_rasp> really weird crap just happened. apt-get breaks with the http method driver not found (apt.conf is there and unmolested) and a program folder (nicotine) in /opt is gone
[07:46] <trappist> Jamminpotato: you'll get the best performance if it's at the beginning of the drive, so the head doesn't have to move very far to get to it
[07:46] <Fibertek> heres a good one for ya'll..
[07:46] <Fibertek> any1 know why.. ill use mednafen as my example..
[07:46] <Fibertek> the package istaller says libc6 is not satisfiable?
[07:46] <i3dmaster> trappist: current kernel has a much better memory management subsystem than before. normally, if you have 1g mem, 512m is big enough unless you are heavily use it for building systems
[07:47] <eternalswd> does anyone know if the firefox included in ubuntu is standard?
[07:47] <Weretoy> wtf is this
[07:47] <Fibertek> eternal: yes
[07:47] <ubuntu_> i am on the live cd and i didnt mean to but restarted x11 now i need the password for ubuntu anybody know i t?
[07:47] <i3dmaster> someone else even suggested turn swappniess off
[07:47] <trappist> ubuntu_: exprt WWW_HOME=http://www.google.com
[07:47] <Weretoy> fags
[07:47] <trappist> ubuntu_: there is none
[07:47] <Fibertek> just hit enter
[07:47] <ubuntu_> thanks trappist ill try it
[07:48] <Fibertek> any1? not satisfiable libc6 in pkg installer ?
[07:48] <bluefox83> i'm running the ubuntu live cd, and i'm having serious issues mounting my ext2 and ext3 partitions :(
[07:48] <Jamminpotato> trappist: i lied, i ahve one more ?.... if im dual booting windows with ubuntu will windows have to be the first partition?
[07:48] <ubuntu_> trappist i was in the middel of install will that affect it ?
[07:48] <trappist> ubuntu_: no
[07:48] <i3dmaster> Jamminpotato: of course not
[07:48] <hellokthulu> bluefox83: how are you mounting them?
[07:49] <trappist> Jamminpotato: depends on the version of windows
[07:49] <Jamminpotato> trappist: winXP
[07:49] <trappist> winxp doesn't have to be on the first partition
[07:49] <Jamminpotato> k thx
[07:49] <trappist> Jamminpotato: but it's a lot easier to install linux *after* installing windows
[07:49] <ubuntu_> trappist i had to use the gui to add the repositorys for bitchx how do i do it in console
[07:49] <bluefox83> hellokthulu: i've tried the standard sudo mount /dev/hda1 /d1 and the "places->computer" and then selecting the drives and mounting
[07:50] <ubuntu_> trappist sorry i am a newb to linux
[07:50] <prattmic> hello
[07:50] <trappist> ubuntu_: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <Jamminpotato> trappist: what im planning on doing is copying all the data form my win install (its just the win stuff prog files and data is on a different drive) to a partition on my new hdd
[07:50] <Jamminpotato> so its not really an install perse
[07:50] <prattmic> I have a problem
[07:50] <bluefox83> for some reason the permissions on both partitions allow for reading only..and i can't mount the dang things to read them...
[07:50] <trappist> Jamminpotato: yeah, that won't run :)
[07:50] <hellokthulu> bluefox83: You may have to give 'sudo mount' the filesystem type, e.g. '--type=ext3' (I'm not actually on my linux box right now, ask the man page)
[07:50] <Jamminpotato> trappist: ?how so?
[07:51] <prattmic> I just installed ubuntu and now I want to install IEs4linux
[07:51] <bluefox83> hellokthulu: tried that, didn't work either
[07:51] <trappist> Jamminpotato: windows (and linux for that matter) requires more than a pile of files to boot
[07:51] <hellokthulu> bluefox83: Can you edit /etc/fstab ?
[07:51] <prattmic> when I go to the terminal to install wine and type the command it asks for my password, yet it won't let me type anything
[07:51] <bluefox83> hellokthulu: and when i try to boot from teh drives, grub gives me "grub error 2" and just sits there with no other output
[07:52] <Jamminpotato> trappist: what if i copy the entire partition over, and then set it up in grub?
[07:52] <ephesius> trappist: couldnt he have grub boot his xp install
[07:52] <bluefox83> *the
[07:52] <hellokthulu> bluefox83: Okay, I'm clueless here, sorry :-(
[07:52] <scifi> hi guys, would anyone be willing to talk me thru how to set-up a simple database in ubuntu ?
[07:52] <ubuntu_> trappist so when it says uncomment that means delete the "##" right ?
[07:52] <prattmic> hello?
[07:52] <trappist> Jamminpotato: won't work.  you need to *install* xp where you want it to be, then copy your files.
[07:52] <prattmic> can someone help me?
[07:52] <trappist> ubuntu_: yep
[07:52] <ubuntu_> trappist thank you
[07:52] <hellokthulu> prattmic: Are you sure you CAN'T type anything, or do you just not see any characters echoed?
[07:53] <petar12> Hi guys, I came in here yesterday asking about which file system to use for my external hard drive.  I went with ext3 and everything works fine so far.  I have copied some files to it using windows xp, but I have just one question.  The hard drive has a capacity of 372.6GB.  However, it is telling me that only 343.6GB is free.  I do have some files on there which take up about 4.5GB.  Can someone tell me why it doesn't show 372.6GB free?
[07:53] <petar12> Is that from formatting?
[07:53] <Jamminpotato> trappist: hmmm, so i install xp where i want it then just copy all my files over the xp install?
[07:53] <trappist> prattmic: password prompts don't echo anything in the console - just type your password and hit enter.
[07:53] <ubuntu_> trappist do  you know of a way to streem music in console?
[07:53] <prattmic> I don't see anything and the cursor stays in the same spto
[07:53] <prattmic> spot
[07:53] <petar12> I am aware that even though it is a 400gb hard drive, I will not see 400gb because of the way they calculate it.
[07:53] <trappist> Jamminpotato: copy the files you want onto the same partition of the xp install - I do NOT recommend copying files OVER the new xp install.
[07:53] <hellokthulu> what trappist said. just type it in and hit return
[07:53] <prattmic> I can toye the command, just not my password
[07:53] <ephesius> prattmic: its supposed to so that know one can see your password characters still go in
[07:53] <prattmic> ok
[07:54] <trappist> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install mpg321; mpg321 foo.mp3
[07:54] <prattmic> ok thank you
[07:54] <Jamminpotato> trappist: what about the registry and all the settings stuff that i want to preserve?
[07:54] <trappist> Jamminpotato: can't do it
[07:54] <Jamminpotato> trappist: theres no way to move a winXP install from one hdd to another?
[07:54] <trappist> Jamminpotato: but we're getting awfully far into how to move windows to another drive, for a channel called #ubuntu
[07:54] <ubuntu_> trappist how do i exit out of the sources.list
[07:55] <trappist> Jamminpotato: you would have to image the drive
[07:55] <trappist> ubuntu_: erm, it depends on what editor sudoedit decided to use.  are there instructions at the bottom of the screen?
[07:55] <Fibertek> anyone? libc6 not satisfiable .. ?
[07:55] <Jamminpotato> trappist: the whole drive or the partition? and can a ubuntu live cd image a drive or do i need to set up norton ghost or somethign like that?
[07:55] <danf_1979> Is there any key combination to take a screenshot?
[07:55] <ubuntu_> it says ^x but that just types in the editer
[07:55] <trappist> Fibertek: try glibc
[07:56] <ubuntu_> trappist and i ve tryed ctrl c
[07:56] <ephesius> ubuntu_: press the control key and x
[07:56] <trappist> Jamminpotato: the whole drive, if you want it to be bootable
[07:56] <ubuntu_> ephesius thank you
[07:56] <nickd2> I am trying to install unbuntu server and it hangs at 69% configuring ubuntu-minimal. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[07:56] <ephesius> ubuntu_: but press ctrl+o first to write
[07:56] <trappist> ubuntu_: ^x means ctrl-x
[07:56] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: the ^ is the ctrl key so you would hit ctrl+x
[07:56] <trappist> but, what ephesius said
[07:56] <Jamminpotato> trappist: =/ cause i want to move the one 8gig partition off my old 20gig hdd onto an 8gig partition onto my new 250gig hdd
[07:57] <Jamminpotato> then i want to dual boot ubuntu iwth it
[07:57] <gnomefreak> ctrl+o than enter than ctrl+x
[07:57] <hellokthulu> petar12: This is ancient Unix knowledge (I'm a dinosaur :-) ) but some amount of the disk is held unused, that only 'root' processes can use.  This is so that if you fill the drive, the system can still run.
[07:57] <lacostepf> Keys F11, F12 Home and End don't work on my system, under X or console (showkeys shows nothing). Any idea why ?
[07:57] <Fibertek> installing it now trappist
[07:57] <trappist> Jamminpotato: I think that can be done with imaging, but I can't help you with it
[07:57] <Jamminpotato> ok
[07:57] <scifi> hi guys, would anyone be willing to talk me thru how to set-up a simple database in ubuntu ?
[07:57] <Jamminpotato> thanks trappist
[07:58] <trappist> hellokthulu: where did you come up with that?  that's false
[07:58] <ubuntu_> gneomefreak thanks
[07:58] <Miek> scifi: what kind of database?
[07:58] <hellokthulu> trappist: It was true in Berkley 4.1 and 4.2.  I SAID I was a dinosaur :-)
[07:59] <scifi> Miek: a movie database, perhaps in a mysql type form ?
[07:59] <Fibertek> trappist: getting the same error
[07:59] <ezenu> how do I run a .jnlp -- java web start -- program via the command line?
[07:59] <ubuntu_> trappist ok so i apt-got the mpeg321 then typed mpeg321 foo.mp3 right ?
[07:59] <bluefox83> ok, i figured out why i couldn't mount my primary partition..i'm going to be pissed off if i have to do what i did to the primary one to get the secondary one working...
[07:59] <petar12> hellokthulu: 20GB seems a bit much.  Is there any way to override this since the drive is only being used for storage?
[08:00] <danf_1979> Is there any key combination to take a screenshot? Please :(
[08:00] <ezenu> ah, javaws
[08:00] <trappist> petar12: that's filesystem overhead.  on ext3, a 5000000 byte file will probably occupy more than 5000000 bytes on the filesystem, because of the way the filesystem allocates blocks to files
[08:00] <trappist> ubuntu_: assuming you have a foo.mp3
[08:00] <hellokthulu> petar12: Evidently I'm wrong about that one -- sorry.  Thanks trappist
[08:00] <trappist> Fibertek: what error
[08:00] <Fibertek> libc6 not satisfiable
[08:00] <trappist> hellokthulu: no problem :)
[08:00] <Fibertek> in debi pkg installer
[08:01] <trappist> Fibertek: oh.  you get that when you do what, and what else does it say
[08:01] <ubuntu_> trappist lol but i want to get a last.fm stream?
[08:01] <hellokthulu> petar12: What percentage have you lost?
[08:01] <ephesius> danf_1979: does ctrl + print scrn work?
[08:01] <Fibertek> just that... error: dependency libc6 is not satisfiable
[08:01] <trappist> ubuntu_: oh, use mplayer then
[08:01] <Fibertek> its a download not an apt-get
[08:02] <trappist> ubuntu_: as in, mplayer http://url.for/the.stream
[08:02] <ubuntu_> trappist will mplayer run in console?
[08:02] <trappist> Fibertek: that's why.  don't use non-ubuntu packages.
[08:02] <petar12> Well the capacity is 372.6GB.  Free space was 348GB before I added anything to the drive.
[08:02] <trappist> ubuntu_: yep
[08:02] <danf_1979> ephesius, nope
[08:02] <scifi> could anyone help me set-up a simple movie database in ubuntu or suggest a simple database app. to use (other than openoffice base)
[08:02] <nickd2> is there a small netinstall cd for ubuntu like for debian?
[08:02] <Fibertek> oo ok :) wrong version ?
[08:02] <trappist> scifi: mysql, postgres, sqlite
[08:02] <izirku> is therea repo for Oracle 10g standard ed? this is for XE only (http://oss.oracle.com/debian)
[08:03] <trappist> Fibertek: what are you trying to install.
[08:03] <Fibertek> mednafen
[08:03] <jcanfield> I'm curious...I've been reading many of planets lately, particulary planet ubuntu  and I'm noticing more and more traffic related to kubuntu.  Does anyone know the current downlaod ratio of ubuntu/kubuntu?
[08:03] <scifi> trappist: which out of those would you say it the easiest to get to grips with ?
[08:03] <frfx> is there a command or a way to see which packages are installed on your ubuntu system?
[08:03] <trappist> scifi: probably sqlite
[08:03] <Fibertek> frfx .. look in synaptic under installed category
[08:03] <trappist> frfx: dpkg -l
[08:03] <ubuntu_> trappist also if i have flash installed will i be able to run pandora.com from lynx
[08:04] <scifi> trappist: k im having a look at it now
[08:04] <trappist> unreal_: I don't know what pandora.com is, but you can't view flash animations in a console
[08:04] <frfx> trappist+fibertek: thanks
[08:04] <petar12> So that seems to be about 6.5% lost
[08:04] <ubuntu_> trappist its like last.fm but the player is flash at the url
[08:05] <trappist> petar12: it's perfectly normal to lose disk space to filesystem overhead.  even before you add files, ext3 reserves a portion of the space for its journal.
[08:05] <trappist> ubuntu_: yeah you won't be able to do that
[08:05] <Fibertek> o i see
[08:05] <Fibertek> they dropped the libc6 version for dapper
[08:05] <petar12> trappist: Would ext2 consume less space?
[08:05] <ubuntu_> trappist ok i am just trying to learn how to work form console but i have to have music lol :)
[08:06] <trappist> petar12: yes, because it's not journaled, but I don't recommend it
[08:06] <|thunder> Ubugtu, you can play music from console with mplayer
[08:06] <trappist> petar12: reiserfs is journaled and uses space more efficiently
[08:06] <Jamminpotato> is it possible to boot an os from an extended partition?
[08:06] <owen_> i just installed the ntp package, how do i activate it?
[08:07] <|thunder> whoops, that was for ubuntu_
[08:07] <trappist> owen_: sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start
[08:07] <LiteWait> dapper/xubuntu/proxim orinoco gold... insert card.... dmesg displays "cs: unable to map card memory" (card works fine with WinBlows), any hints?
[08:07] <oiad_> selber emo
[08:07] <bruceh> how would I do ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew for ubuntu?
[08:07] <petar12> trappist: Do you believe I should reformat it to reiserfs to see how much that uses?  And do you think I need journalling as this will only be used for storage?
[08:07] <ubuntu_> i tryed to apt-get install mplayer but it said it has no installation canadate ?
[08:07] <trappist> bruceh: sudo dhclient
[08:07] <bruceh> i'm at terminal and can't figure out what commands to type in
[08:08] <trappist> petar12: it's honestly not going to make a noticeable difference, in all likelihood
[08:08] <InsideJob> bruceh, 'man ifconfig'
[08:08] <|thunder> bruceh, to do what ?
[08:08] <AlienX> is it safe to update the xorg-core package? I heard from a friend that it was causing problems on some systems
[08:09] <bruceh> wanna renew ip etc
[08:09] <trappist> AlienX: the broken one has been reverted.  it's safe now.
[08:09] <AlienX> trappist, cheers
[08:09] <scifi> trappist: is there a simple sql package in synaptic i could install ?
[08:09] <trappist> bruceh: did you see what I said
[08:09] <trappist> scifi: what do you mean by simple sql
[08:09] <|thunder> bruceh, try           ifup lan0       and         ifdown wlan0
[08:10] <scifi> trappist: like sqlite
[08:10] <trappist> scifi: yes. sqlite
[08:10] <scifi> trappist: lol ok i'll try it out ^^
[08:10] <|thunder> bruceh, replace wlan0 with your interface
[08:11] <zenit> LiteWait: I wouldn't worry about the message. It's a good card, it should work if you have pcmcia-cs installed (required for 16-bits pcmcia)
[08:11] <owen_> it doesnt matter what server i choose for it to update my time right?
[08:11] <anders339> hello evreybodies!
[08:11] <owen_> it will still make it convert to my time zone?
[08:11] <|thunder> owen_, yep. all times in GMT
[08:11] <anders339> this problem i have..
[08:11] <anders339> ..that i can't run 3d games at a decent FPS
[08:12] <anders339> it runs as before i installed the ati drivers..
[08:12] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:12] <BOBSONATOR> Does anyone here use KISMET/ AIRCRACK?
[08:12] <|thunder> anders339, anders339 did you change xorg.xonf to reflect the atidriver ?
[08:12] <anders339> how do i make.. ehhrr.. the games playable?
[08:12] <nox-Hand> What is the command for configuring Xorg on the Ubuntu Livecd?
[08:12] <anders339> yeah, i think.
[08:13] <anders339> unless it has been change by something , again..
[08:13] <bean-oh> anders339, you probably need to isntall the driver for your video card
[08:13] <|thunder> nox-Hand, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:13] <michaels__> I need a newb-safe way to do a simple editon an AVI video: a 90-degree flip
[08:13] <diego> hey, i keep getting this error msg at startup "no screen found", it's an erorr from xorg and xorgfix doesn't help..
[08:13] <anders339> fglrx on all the "devices" with ati..
[08:13] <nox-Hand> |thunder: Thats not the guided one o_O Oh, wait, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[08:14] <scifi> trappist: which sqlite package do i need to install ?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> i tryed to apt-get install mplayer but it said it has no installation canadate ?
[08:14] <bean-oh> diego, you can downgrade your xorg-server-core manually
[08:14] <diego> downgrade?
[08:14] <diego> why should i do that?
[08:14] <GUIPEnguin_> does the normal installation cd for Ubuntu linux, start with a live cd environment..or did I download the wrong cd?
[08:14] <trappist> scifi: sqlite3
[08:14] <|thunder> michaels__, you can do that with mplayer/mencoder
[08:14] <pradeep_> GUIPEnguin_, you have the right one
[08:14] <diego> i have just upgraded it
[08:14] <ephesius> ubuntu_: do and apt-cache search mplayer to find the exact name of the mplayer package you need
[08:14] <|thunder> ubuntu_ you need to enablu universal repos
[08:14] <anders339> i could try to reinstall it, but how do i uninstall though? Synaptic?
[08:15] <michaels__> how |thunder?
[08:15] <anders339> oh yes, you do.
[08:15] <InsideJob> hey guys
[08:15] <TheGateKeeper> GUIPEnguin_: yep, there is that one an the alternative cd that uses a text installer
[08:15] <ubuntu_> i have universal repos i needed them so i could run bitchx
[08:15] <manmadha> any one know the graphic programs using c??
[08:16] <|thunder> michaels__, you'll have to look through the manual.  use 'man mencoder'
[08:16] <diego> .......someone?!
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> anders339: mark it for removal
[08:16] <oiad_> selber emo
[08:16] <michaels__> thanks |thunder
[08:16] <anders339> yeah, i know that.
[08:16] <diego> manmadha, google gtk+ and glade
[08:16] <anders339> gotta find the packages first then.
[08:16] <trappist> ubuntu_: it gave you a list of packages.  choose the one for your platform.
[08:16] <ubuntu_> ephesius thanks so far that is working
[08:16] <bean-oh> diego, downgrade, i meant to before the update. 10.2 is the version before.
[08:16] <|thunder> diego, hang a sec.
[08:16] <steps> hi there, anyone using Ekiga VOIP?
[08:16] <azureal> hi; firefox sometimes freezes after it plays a trailer...could someone who has all the plugins working and not-crashing pastebin their /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[08:17] <ephesius> ubuntu_: is it installing?
[08:17] <diego> btw, the log file is here, http://sh.nu/p/2882
[08:17] <diego> the error appears at the end lines
[08:17] <scifi> trappist: is there a gui-front end i could install ?
[08:17] <|thunder> what was the link to that xorg bug fix ?
[08:18] <ubuntu_> ephesius it gives me options for kmpplayer winch is for kde but i just want to run it in console
[08:18] <petar12> Well I think I will keep the ext3 fs since reiserfs doesn't have write support in windows
[08:18] <trappist> scifi: not that I know of, but if you go with mysql instead there's mysql-admin
[08:18] <diego> |thunder, haging a sec....
[08:18] <owen_> does anyone know of a good music manager - arranges your music by different variables? e.g date created, length, genre
[08:18] <bruceh> thanks for the help ealier. be back later going to lunch. it's still not connecting to web
[08:18] <|thunder> Holy Shit. 32-Bit Vista is NOT going to be able to play Blu-Ray and HD-DVD
[08:19] <trappist> owen_: amarok
[08:19] <diego> owen_, mysql
[08:19] <ephesius> ubuntu_: are you only on the command line? if you have a gui try searching in synaptic
[08:19] <|thunder> diego, there was a link here that has the solution.
[08:19] <petar12> | thunder: Why not?
[08:19] <profoX`> |thunder: kinda pathethic isn't it
[08:19] <|thunder> diego, but now i dont know where it is
[08:19] <diego> i tried xorgbug
[08:19] <diego> it doesn't help
[08:19] <diego> or xorgfix or smth like that
[08:19] <xored> iam trying to get my mouse ( logitech mx 510 ) running under xorg. touchpad is working fine, mouse is configured under xorg.conf ( http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3100/ ), evdev is running, mouse is detected and udev assigned it to /dev/input/mx510 according to my rule, but the mouse is not woking. Could someone help ? ( Xorg 7.1 )
[08:19] <anders339> what was the names of the "ati" packages?
[08:19] <profoX`> petar12: microsoft signed an agreement to only allow HD playback on 64bit versions because that would be "safer"
[08:20] <|thunder> goto digg.comm   its right on top
[08:20] <ubuntu_> ephesius i do have a gui installed but i am trying not to use it cuz i am trying to learn how to just use the console i got lynx and irc working :)
[08:20] <|thunder> *for the vista stroy that is
[08:20] <petar12> profoX`: Oh to prevent piracy?  I see.
[08:20] <profoX`> petar12: i think so
[08:20] <trappist> guys the vistaness is offtopic.  please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <owen_> anyone know a program equivalent to amarok for the Gnome desktop environment?
[08:21] <ubuntu_> the worst of xp + the worst of server 03 + the worst to come = vista
[08:21] <diego> bean-oh, the downgrade will fix this?
[08:22] <anders339> true, and just vista itselfs takes like 800mb :-!
[08:22] <vasyl> I want to install amd specific kernel instead of i386 if I apt-get install it do I need to reinstall my ati drivers? and do I also need to repompile/reinstall something else?
[08:22] <nickd2> does anyone know why my amd64 server install hangs on installing ubuntu-minimal?
[08:22] <petar12> Well this is very disappointing.  I would have to build a new pc to play HD content even though the one I have can play it fine.
[08:22] <bean-oh> diego, worked for me. upgrading didn't work for me. lemme get you the link
[08:22] <ubuntu_> trappist can i let them know that vista will rewrite there mbr everytime they boot it?
[08:22] <steps> !Ekiga
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <azureal> damn..i guess no one uses firefox
[08:23] <steven43126> hi
[08:23] <trappist> ubuntu_: please take it to -offtopic.
[08:23] <anders339> i do.
[08:23] <ephesius> ubuntu_: I understand um i dont use synaptic but did you not find anything for mplayer in your apt-cache search?
[08:23] <diego> bean-oh, thanks
[08:23] <anders339> azureal : what's the problem?
[08:23] <ubuntu_> ephesius yeah but it was all for kde
[08:23] <jkleinhans> hello I am having issues with kubuntu and a Alienware laptop's wireless internet connection...trying to get it to work but it hates me, any suggestions?
[08:23] <steven43126> anyone here using xen maybe on a AMD dualcore AM2?
[08:24] <azureal> anders339, it's above
[08:24] <manmadha> diego, he i did the programs in windows initgraph()....etc but i dont know how to do it in linux .it is nessasary to learn gtk+..?
[08:24] <ephesius> ubuntu_: all of it...hold on one sec
[08:24] <anders339> oh, *goin' up*
[08:24] <manmadha> plz help me
[08:24] <nickd2> jkleinhans: buy it flowers? whats the specific problem
[08:24] <|thunder> azureal, what about ff ?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> ephesius it also shows tea and mga-vid-source
[08:24] <bean-oh> diego http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21569
[08:24] <jkleinhans> I can't establish a connection with the wireless AP, additionally its returning permission issues, moreso when I run as sudo from kate
[08:25] <bean-oh> diego, then just dpkg -i that .deb file.
[08:25] <jkleinhans> yet it recognizes that wireless internet is present
[08:25] <compotatoj> !family > oransky
[08:25] <owen_> does anyone know of good audio editing software, maybe with even features like Sony Acid Pro 6, Fruity Loops XXL, Ableton Live 5, Cubase
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <ubuntu_> trappist do we relley have to see that stuff from oransky?
[08:25] <nox-Hand> I need to reinstall grub on either /dev/hda or /dev/hdb - how?
[08:25] <nox-Hand> I am on the livecd
[08:25] <kaot> compotatoj: !language ?
[08:25] <azureal> |thunder, basically, i'm wondering how people set up their plugins for ff...that's why i asked someone to pastebin their firefox/plugins so that i could compaire [and make necessary changes] 
[08:25] <compotatoj> i guess so
[08:25] <trappist> ubuntu_: no more than we need to see vista stuff - anyway I'm not an op
[08:26] <azureal> because i'm sometimes having crashing probs
[08:26] <anders339> azureal : https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[08:26] <steven43126> owen_:  audacity
[08:26] <ubuntu_> trappist lol i thought you might be
[08:26] <diego> bean-oh, thanks
[08:26] <ephesius> ubuntu_: did you try enabling the multiverse maybe try apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:26] <anders339> try that, if that's what you need help with-ish.
[08:26] <kaot> owen_: as for your player question, you might look into rhythmbox
[08:26] <ubuntu_> ephesius ill try that real quick
[08:26] <nox-Hand> Anyone?
[08:27] <|thunder> azureal, hmm. im not sure what you mean. are you talking about extensions ? I just install them as normal. They are stored in my /home dir
[08:27] <kaot> owen_: for the production stuff, afaik linux is still lagging a bit in production software, and I really have no idea what's out there
[08:27] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone tell me what maintenance tasks i should be carrying out with ubuntu? e.g. In windows i would run defrag antivirus checks chkdsk and occasional clean of temp files and the registry
[08:27] <azureal> anders339, you've tested this?
[08:27] <owen_> thank you
[08:27] <anders339> yepp, at least it worked on XP, can't see why it shouldn't work on Linux.
[08:27] <|thunder> nox-Hand, do you know the difference between reinstalling grub and rewriting the MBR ?
[08:28] <azureal> |thunder, i've set up ff so that it plays a variety of movies, but sometimes it freezes afterwards
[08:28] <ubuntu_> ephesius no dice but i am doing a apr-get update real quick then try again
[08:28] <nox-Hand> |thunder: Not really :)
[08:28] <kaot> Paddy_EIRE: other than reading your logfiles periodically to make sure nothing strange shows up, and keepig up with software updates, there's not a whole lot to do
[08:28] <anders339> gotta reboot X then
[08:28] <azureal> |thunder, i think i have a plugin conflict...thus my request to see another's firefox/plugins
 where can i view log files
[08:28] <steven43126> Paddy_EIRE: i find you don't have to do much you don't need to defrag ext3 dose not fragment, for av i use clamav, run chkrootkit from cron clean log files once in a while and thats it
[08:28] <kaot> Paddy_EIRE: /var/log
[08:29] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[08:29] <nox-Hand> |thunder: So...whats it about?
[08:29] <islan> hey, how come I can't find acidrip on the archive?
 od i just type this in a terminal 'chkrootkit'
[08:29] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, i could never get clamav to work correctly. It wouldn't update
[08:29] <steven43126> Paddy_EIRE: though if your like me you may need to uninstall all the apps you install just play with yet seem to get stuck there
[08:30] <GUIPEnguin_> I'm setting up the partition table as   /dev/hda2 as /boot     /dev/hda4  swap    /dev/hda3  /         this will be duel booting with windows on the /dev/hda1 partition....but the ubuntu gui installer insists that /dev/hda1 has a mount point as well?
[08:30] <anders339> !ati
[08:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <stef_> hi, just installed ubuntu and forgot to install the other partitions on my hard disk
[08:30] <|thunder> nox-Hand, grub resides in /boot/grub on the linux file system. the MBR is on the first harddrive whhich points to your /boot/grub
[08:30] <steven43126> Paddy_EIRE: yup thats about it after you have installed it, or run it from cron
[08:30] <stef_> how can i make them work?
[08:30] <johnnybutterkeks> hello @ everybody
[08:30] <ubuntu_> ephesius nope nothing
[08:30] <stef_> and how can i see the other computers in the network?
 whats cron
[08:31] <ephesius> ubuntu_: no clue then...it can't find anything?
[08:31] <steven43126> Linuturk_code: don't know? the prgram that does the update is called freshclam mine just seems to work
[08:31] <nox-Hand> |thunder: Right. How do I make the mbr point to /dev/hda1/boot/grub?
[08:31] <islan> !tell islan about restricted filetypes
[08:31] <ubuntu_> ephesius no do you know if a diff media player for console ?
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted filetypes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, how did you install it? directions from the forums?
[08:31] <steven43126> Paddy_EIRE: do google for more info basically it's a task scheduer you can set pograms to run once every day onve every week etc etc
[08:31] <Linuturk_code> !restricted
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <|thunder> not sure. but that is the question you need to find the wenser too
[08:31] <|thunder> not sure. but that is the question you need to find the awnser too
[08:31] <stef_> no directly from a cd
[08:31] <johnnybutterkeks> ive got a problem
[08:32] <johnnybutterkeks> can anybody help me?
[08:32] <Linuturk_code> !ask
[08:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:32] <ephesius> ubuntu_:you mean like playing video from the cli?
[08:32] <ubuntu_> !restricted formats
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:32] <ubuntu_> ephesius no just music
[08:32] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, no need to make a /boot partiton. just make a 4-6 GB / part, a swap part the same size as your ram, and theh rest for /home.
[08:32] <kaot> ubuntu_: you looking for like a console-based mp3 player kind of thing?
[08:32] <stef_> Linuturk_code any id?
[08:32] <compotatoj> How do you make the console/terminal use a bigger resolution (preferably 1600x1200 or 1280x1024)?
[08:33] <ubuntu_> kaot yeah
[08:33] <johnnybutterkeks> my sound is crunching all the time when i play a video or some music -.- ive installed ubuntu dapper drake 6.06
[08:33] <steven43126> Linuturk_code: just ran apt-get, pretty much worked as is, check the clamav docs for more info, you shuld just be able to run it from the command line as and wehn you want
[08:33] <ubuntu_> kaot id like to also get last.fm
[08:33] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, that way when you want to reinstall you can just set the part the same and opt to only formatt the / part.
[08:33] <Linuturk_code> stef_, what?
[08:33] <compotatoj> ubuntu_, it comes with rhythmbox
[08:33] <legendx> compotatoj:  You got to add vga=792 at the end of your /boot/grub/menu.lst   (792= 1024x768)
[08:33] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, hmmm, ok. I did install the gui front end as well
[08:33] <stef_> how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network?
[08:33] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, maybe that's where my problem lies
[08:33] <anamartinez> hola
[08:33] <compotatoj> legendx: what about for a bigger resolution, i know its possible
[08:33] <ephesius> ubuntu_: i have no ideas sorry
[08:33] <GUIPEnguin_> |thunder: I am making a /boot partition...I have been using gentoo for 3 years, and like a seperate /boot for various reasons
[08:34] <ubuntu_> compotato will rythembox work on console?
[08:34] <vdm> cgoban doesn't give sound (a java go client), any ideas what i can try to get it to work?
[08:34] <anamartinez> que tal?
[08:34] <steven43126> Linuturk_code: don't seem to remember having any problems i don't use the gui didn't know there was one ? lol
[08:34] <ubuntu_> ephesius thanks for all the help anytway
[08:34] <diego> bean-oh, xorg wasn't my problem, someone helped me on #nvidia, thanks anyway
[08:34] <legendx> compotatoj: http://www.sprint.net.au/~terbut/usefulbox/lilovgatable.htm
[08:34] <anamartinez> no
[08:34] <steven43126> Linuturk_code: what GUI u uding ?
[08:34] <ephesius> ubuntu_: no problem
[08:34] <kaot> ubuntu_: it isn't exactly full-featured but I use something called playmp3list, it's pretty basic but it works fine for me
[08:34] <legendx> compotatoj:       794  	=  	1280x1024x16
[08:34] <Diabolic> So, after installing kubuntu-desktop, how do I switch to using KDE?
[08:34] <anamartinez> no
[08:34] <ubuntu_> nic cjones
[08:34] <bean-oh> diego, no problem - glad you got it fixed
[08:34] <kaot> ubuntu_: but I dunno if it's in the repos, I installed source
[08:34] <compotatoj> ubuntu, i think so... quodlibet does
[08:34] <nox-Hand> |thunder: Do you know how?
[08:35] <anamartinez> si
[08:35] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, i was using the gnome based gui.
[08:35] <GUIPEnguin_> |thunder: my main problem is this gui installer insists on needing a mount point for my ntfs windows partition on /dev/hda1
[08:35] <Sjoerd-> hi, anyone knows how to use screen? I have something running with it but can't find it back.............
[08:35] <Linuturk_code> steven43126, i don't remember the name of it
[08:35] <steven43126> Linuturk_code: hmm ill have a look for it
[08:35] <ubuntu_> knot ok ill try i would like to try to install from source
[08:35] <fdoving> Sjoerd-: screen -r
[08:35] <anamartinez> si
[08:35] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, do you not want to mount it ? just remove it
[08:35] <oiad_> selber emo
[08:35] <fdoving> Sjoerd-: screen -r number/name if you have multiple screens.
[08:35] <ubuntu_> knot or try to teach myself how lol
[08:35] <anamartinez> no
[08:35] <anamartinez> ajjaja
[08:36] <stef_> how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network? anyone else than linuturk has an id how to solve this or whete i can find the solution of my problem?
[08:36] <BOBSONATOR> the forums are super slow today...
[08:36] <BOBSONATOR> i cant get anywhere.
[08:36] <Sjoerd-> fdoving: -r ?
[08:36] <ubuntu_> compotato whats quodlibet ?
[08:36] <johnnybutterkeks> my sound is crunching all the time when i play a video or some music -.- can anybody help me?
[08:36] <anamartinez> hola
[08:36] <compotatoj> ubuntu_, it is like rhythmbox but not
[08:36] <bean-oh> weird, i can't ctrl-alt-[0-9]  to the terminals now. any idea why?
[08:37] <stef_> oransky, you wanker
[08:37] <anamartinez> que tal?
[08:37] <ubuntu_> compotato sort of like winamp=xmms?
[08:37] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, When I installed ubuntu it just kinda automagically edited my MBR so it pointed to /booot and if it failed it reverts back to the NT loader
[08:37] <anamartinez> queeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:37] <ephesius> bean-oh: are you using the F1 etc. keys?
[08:37] <BOBSONATOR> wanker lol
[08:37] <Sjoerd-> "Type "screen [-d]  -r [pid.] tty.host" to resume one of them."
[08:37] <compotatoj> ubuntu_, yeah.. but this looks very similar to rhythmbox, so it is like itunes i guess
[08:38] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know how I can get grub mbr installed to /dev/hda1/boot/grub (( so the mbr gets grub on hda1 to load ))
[08:38] <bean-oh> ephesius, yes, i forgot the F, doesn't work, was working yesterday.
[08:38] <ubuntu_> compotato do you know if it will run well form console ?
[08:38] <nox-Hand> I am on the livecd
[08:38] <Paddy_EIRE> i downloaded and installed clamav now how do i run it
[08:38] <BOBSONATOR> omg, i crap faster than the forum pages load
[08:38] <asdf>  /part
[08:38] <asdf> oops
[08:38] <michaels__> how do I search by keyword within a man file?
[08:38] <anamartinez> jajajajajjajajajjajajjajajajjasjsjjs
[08:38] <ubuntu_> passy_eire just ty0pe it in term
[08:38] <oiad_> y0
[08:39] <anamartinez> que
[08:39] <GUIPEnguin_> |thunder: I understand. But I am in the gui installer, manuly editing partitions... I have made my partitions I want in my freespace, Windows is on /dev/hda1   I have three partitions for linux to use...and when I click next, and tell ubuntu what to use for each one....I have to give a mount point for /dev/hda1 as well...it thinks I want to use it in my ubuntu setup...it wants a mount point which it doesn't need.
[08:39] <anamartinez> hoola
[08:39] <ajopaul_> hi any idea how to play audio on 3gp files without having to recompile mplayer, have installed the ubuntu version so dont have source i guess..
[08:39] <steven43126> Paddy_EIRE: typically something like clamav --infected --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev /
[08:39] <owen_> im using rhythmbox, i keep importing a folder, it doesnt add any songs, any ideas?
[08:39] <steven43126> check man page for more options
[08:39] <anamartinez> que es eso
[08:40] <anamartinez> si
[08:40] <kaot> owen_: did you get the mp3 codecs installed?
[08:40] <ajopaul_> it requires a codec amr_nb whichi is missing..
[08:40] <owen_> how do i check?
[08:40] <anamartinez> si
[08:40] <ephesius> michaels_: did you try grep? man manpage | grep keyword
[08:41] <natural20> so my file transfers stall in nautilus; any help?
[08:41] <michaels__> didn't try that yet ephesius, thanks
[08:41] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, that is very strange. my windows partiton is mounted as '/media/winxp' on the left and '/dev/hda1' on the right.
[08:41] <anamartinez> hola de nuebo
[08:41] <ephesius> michaels_: i think there is a feature in man for it but i dont know what it is sorry
[08:42] <michaels__> ephesius: oh, grep just gave me one line with the keyword in it, I need to just jump to the right part of the man page
[08:42] <kaot> owen_: I can't remember the name of the package to install them, unfortunately, or i'd tell you.  Probably though rhythmbox isn't recognizing mp3 as a valid audio file.
[08:42] <anamartinez> si
[08:42] <kaot> erm.
[08:42] <kaot> !restricted
[08:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:42] <usul> hey, ever since the last xserver upgrade, my videos on gxine lag-- anyone know why or how i can fix this (obviously they didnt lag before)
[08:42] <kaot> owen_: check those out
[08:42] <ajopaul_> !paste > ajopaul_
[08:42] <bean-oh> !kismet
[08:42] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[08:42] <GUIPEnguin_> |thunder: I got it: thanks
[08:43] <kaot> kismet's kinda neat
[08:43] <|thunder> michaels__, i think you can hit /blahblahh in a man page to search
[08:43] <pradeeper> is there any IRC channel that dedicated to "remastering ubuntu"?
[08:43] <|thunder> GUIPEnguin_, yvw
[08:43] <steps> guys im having a problem the audio input, basicaly the microphone is active and working, however when i try to record anything or use VOIP, it simply doesnt work... any clues how i can fix that
[08:43] <bean-oh> yar, i have it on my mac
[08:43] <Heda> folks, is there a way to clear out redundant package, ie the libs that get installed and stick around after you've removed the main program /
[08:43] <oiad_> selber emo
[08:43] <michaels__> yep |thunder, thanks
[08:43] <bean-oh> kinda sucks with the cripped airport extreme though
[08:44] <|thunder> steps, have you had a look in the volume control applet to ensure the mic is set to record ?
[08:44] <knapper> Does anyone else feel like browsing in windows/firefox seems faster then linux/firefox
[08:44] <knapper> ?
[08:44] <steps> thunder u mean the capture tab? yes it is active
[08:45] <kaot> knapper: not particularly, no...
[08:45] <|thunder> knapper, ya, but only because my wirless card is running at 1mbit/ps  yes that MegaBIT.  have been able to solve it.
[08:45] <|thunder> steps, other than that i dont know. ive not done any recording.
[08:46] <steps> ok thanks mate ill try to figure it out, its frustrating
[08:46] <knapper> It feels a lot faster in windows to me, for some reason...
[08:46] <steps> Knapper i had the same problem
[08:46] <usul> anyone notice gxine lagging after the latest upgrade of x ??
[08:46] <ephesius> knapper: windows on the same machine?
[08:46] <knapper> yes
[08:46] <steps> i have windows and linux on the same machine
[08:46] <Heda> the other thing is, i've been trying to get totem-gstreamer to play wmv's but no luck at all, and theres no sound in mov files either
[08:46] <anamartinez> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:47] <prat> english
[08:47] <maco> I just put the Dapper live cd into a computer to test the ethernet card.  It won't go live.  There's just the shell, and startx won't do anything.
[08:47] <steps> dunno if its the reason but it became better after i updated the drivers of my graphic card
[08:47] <michaels__> I don't get how to use the rotate option on mencoder... what kind of command to I write to simply rotate a file?
[08:47] <maco> After "uncompressing linux...ok, bootingthe kernel" it says "[17179569.184000]  ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
[08:47] <dom_> Hi knapper - yes I thought so too then tried Swiftfox which is a recompiled firefox with different compile time options - now Ubuntu swiftfox is faster than windows firefox
[08:48] <maco> then it says "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:01:00.0"
[08:48] <maco> and then /bin/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
[08:48] <knapper> dom_ I forgot to mention that I am using swiftfox on my linux partition
[08:48] <|thunder> michaels__, not sure, but I know it can be done. for projectors.
[08:48] <anamartinez> si
[08:48] <steven43126> anyone here good with dvd encoding on linux  ?
[08:48] <dom_> ahhh
[08:48] <michaels__> |thunder: it can be done, I'm just too newb to know how to put together the commands. :)
[08:49] <richardba> Hi there
[08:49] <richardba> I need help
[08:49] <knapper> It took me 19.458 seconds to load slashdot
[08:49] <steven43126> my laptop has really bad speakers and some dvd's play really quite, i know you can normalize audi cd,s to change the volume can you do this with dvd's and avi's ?
[08:49] <anamartinez> voy a ver una cosa
[08:49] <richardba> how to acess ubuntu as root user?
[08:49] <michaels__> I did this |thunder: mencoder -rotate=2 MVI_3558.AVI -o show.avi
[08:49] <anamartinez> ana
[08:49] <iqon> can i do twinview without ati or nvidia drivers?
[08:50] <richardba> how to acess ubuntu as root user?
[08:50] <steven43126> iqon: twinview is an nvidia only option
[08:50] <anamartinez> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:50] <Acidian> su
[08:50] <richardba> how to acess ubuntu as root user?
[08:50] <|thunder> michaels__, first you should start with a mencoder command that will encode, say, the first 10 second of the video into another file.
[08:50] <richardba> where?
[08:50] <Acidian> type su in console and you get root
[08:50] <michaels__> why |thunder?
[08:50] <richardba> I cant enter as root
[08:50] <anamartinez> siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:50] <richardba> in the login
[08:50] <Acidian> you have to log in with your normal user
[08:50] <jkleinhans> http://pastebin.com/775077 <-- Anyone have any ideas?
[08:50] <richardba> what is happening
[08:51] <richardba> is that my user is named
[08:51] <richardba> "root"
[08:51] <iqon> is there a multiple display option for other video adapters?
[08:51] <richardba> lol
[08:51] <richardba> :p
[08:51] <anamartinez> si
[08:51] <Acidian> then when you are in ubuntu, use the su command to become super user or the sudo command for temporary root
[08:51] <oransky> jkleinhans, more wanking, less talking
[08:51] <|thunder> michaels__, how big is the video ? mb's gb's ?
[08:51] <steven43126> iqon xinerama works really well
[08:51] <michaels__> almost twenty megs
[08:51] <richardba> is that my user is named "root"
[08:51] <iqon> steven43126: thanks, i'll give that a shot
[08:51] <richardba> this is the problem
[08:51] <Acidian> your user name isnt root, but you can give yourself root
[08:52] <sethk> richardba, depending on which install options you chose, the root password may not be set.
[08:52] <stef_> can't solve the problem ...
[08:52] <Acidian> ubuntu doesnt have root as its own user
[08:52] <sethk> richardba, if not, you can set it.
[08:52] <anamartinez> voy a cenar
[08:52] <stef_> how can i see my other partitions and how can i see the folders on other computers in the network? anyone else than linuturk has an id how to solve this or whete i can find the solution of my problem?
[08:52] <Acidian> so you need to start up ubuntu first with normal user, and give yourself root after
[08:52] <stef_> think i've got to try it in knoppix
[08:52] <michaels__> almost twenty megs |thunder
[08:52] <demonbane> Anyone happen to know how to disable the clipboard management in Gnome 2.12 and later? It seems to be breaking my X clipboard when using a remote X server.
[08:52] <oiad_> selber emo
[08:52] <|thunder> sudo passwd will do the reick
[08:52] <Diabolic> So, after installing kubuntu-desktop, how do I switch to using KDE?
[08:52] <sethk> richardba, do you mean that you called your normal user root during the install procedure?
[08:52] <anamartinez> y maana me conerto
[08:52] <|thunder> ok ,then thats nothing. nm that 10 second crap.
[08:52] <jkleinhans> oransky: this is a Alienware laptop trying to connect to a WAP via its wireless NIC
[08:52] <sethk> Diabolic, bring up synaptic, and you'll find kde packages to install
[08:52] <stef_> m$ is totally fucked up and i can't use partition magic anymore ...
[08:52] <jkleinhans> oransky: I can't get it running :(
[08:52] <richardba> so I have to reinstall ubuntu
[08:53] <sethk> !es > anamartinez
[08:53] <compotatoj> stef_: gparted
[08:53] <stef_> gparted won't start
[08:53] <Diabolic> sethk: Well, as I said: _After installing kubuntu-desktop_ ;-)
[08:53] <|thunder> michaels__, the command looks right. does it work without the rotate option? just making an extra file ?
[08:53] <stef_> i've got to fill in my password
[08:53] <sethk> anamartinez, que quiere decir conerto?
[08:53] <richardba> there is any way to attribute another user?
[08:53] <stef_> than i see a blink of the program and than nothing
[08:53] <sethk> Diabolic, you mean how to you log in to kde?
[08:53] <michaels__> |thunder: when I try the command I posted I get this: -rotate=2 is not an MEncoder option
[08:53] <Diabolic> sethk: Yep, I can't find any option on the login screen.
[08:54] <sethk> Diabolic, at the gdm login screen, there is an option to choose the type of session
[08:54] <|thunder> stef_, run the app from the console to see the error
[08:54] <stef_> compatotj any id?
[08:54] <michaels__> (after a little startup report and before an exiting message)
[08:54] <sethk> Diabolic, are you using gdm?
[08:54] <Diabolic> sethk: Yep.
[08:54] <|thunder> michaels__, try it without the =
[08:54] <sethk> Diabolic, ordinarily when you install the kde desktop, it will be added to the list of sessions that appear in gdm
[08:54] <sethk> Diabolic, let me see if there is a separate package related to that.
[08:54] <richardba> because it says that "Admin isnt allowed to login in this screen session"
[08:54] <Diabolic> sethk: k, thanks.
[08:54] <michaels__> |thunder: same thing, and I tried it before with a dash or a space and none of these worked
[08:54] <sethk> richardba, right, for security reasons that is blocked
[08:55] <Diabolic> sethk: kubuntu-desktop installed without problems, fyi :)
[08:55] <richardba> so
[08:55] <richardba> what should I do?
[08:55] <|thunder> michaels__, ohh, i know. its probably not a -option
[08:55] <michaels__> then what is it?
[08:55] <|thunder> michaels__, look above it. the -option will be there and the rotate=2 goafter it or some crap
[08:55] <richardba> should I reinstall ubuntu?
[08:56] <richardba> is there another way to create other user?
[08:56] <yawn9> anyone know much about wireless networking? i've never done it on linux before, and i just installed ubuntu. a google search shows that it should be possible with my card but people who try to say how don't speak english very well
[08:56] <sethk> Diabolic, probably a quick way around your problem is to install kdm (if you haven't yet installed it)
[08:56] <XVirus> how can I disallow dhclient from changing my resolv.conf ?
[08:56] <sethk> richardba, yes
[08:56] <|thunder> michaels__, rotate should be grouped in with other commands. i dont have it installed currently or i'd just look it up for ya
[08:56] <sethk> richardba, are you at the machine?  why are you trying to use screen?
[08:56] <Diabolic> sethk: the package 'kdm'?
[08:56] <lupine_85> XVirus: try adding the dns-nameserver option to your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:56] <sethk> Diabolic, right
[08:56] <lupine_85> might work
[08:56] <phreakys> damn
[08:56] <phreakys> another hangup in compiz
[08:57] <phreakys> not really too stable :/
[08:57] <michaels__> |thunder: this works: mencoder MVI_3558.AVI rotate=2 -o bomb.avi
[08:57] <|thunder> phreakys, mine rock stable.
[08:57] <michaels__> (except it needs a sound encoder first)
[08:57] <LiveCDPartition> Hey,  well I installed Linux, but accidently wiped out windows!
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> !wireless > Linuturk_code
[08:57] <phreakys> hm, lucky you
[08:57] <sethk> phreakys, the docs for combiz say that it is alpha software and not to expect it to work flawlessly
[08:57] <Diabolic> sethk: Alrighty.
[08:57] <|thunder> michaels__, yes. awesome
[08:57] <sethk> phreakys, if you don't want glitches, don't work with alpha releases
[08:57] <phreakys> yea, not really a problem. love the eyecandy
[08:57] <michaels__> thanks |thunder
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> !wireless > yawn9
[08:57] <|thunder> michaels__, your very welcome
[08:57] <yawn9> !wireless
[08:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:57] <sethk> LiveCDPartition, probably you only need to configure the boot manager to get windows back
[08:58] <sethk> LiveCDPartition, when you do    fdisk -l /dev/hda   (may need sudo)    do you see the windows partition?  assuming your hard drive is hda, of course
[08:58] <yawn9> well, lets take a looksee at this..
[08:58] <phreakys> is there somekind of taskmanager in ubuntu to close hanging apps?
[08:58] <|thunder> michaels__, you just learned alot for asking for a newb way of doing something, ;P
[08:58] <fuci> How can I extract files to my apache home folder? (/Var/www/)? It says I don't have the rights. Thanks!
[08:58] <lupine_85> killall -9 ?
[08:58] <phreakys> ah
[08:58] <phreakys> tnx
[08:58] <sethk> fuci, use sudo
[08:59] <fuci> sethk: In what way?
[08:59] <jpjacobs> phreakys, if you click a few times on the cross of the app, it'll ask you wheter you wnat to kill it...
[08:59] <|thunder> phreakys, ya. in the gnome panel. or ps -A and killall APPNAME
[08:59] <sethk> fuci, sudo cp /var/www/whatever /somewhere
[08:59] <lupine_85> there is a graphical app as well, and an applet control (so you just click that, then click on the window you want to kill)
[08:59] <lupine_85> but kill and killall are foolproof
[08:59] <phreakys> thanks
[08:59] <sethk> fuci, or sudo filemanager-program  (perhaps sudo nautilus, e.g.)
[08:59] <Don_jr> Is the text based install CD the same install that's on the live CD version?
[08:59] <fuci> sethk: ok, thanks!
[09:00] <gil_> can someone help me with apache
[09:00] <Linuturk_code> Don_jr, yes, basically. there are more options on the text based as well
[09:00] <sethk> lupine_85, also top lets you kill perhaps a bit more easily than just cli, but without needing the gui
[09:00] <gil_> simple idiot question?
[09:00] <Madkiss> Where do I configure what locales locale-gen generates?
[09:00] <phreakys> got it :D
[09:00] <sethk> Don_jr, it's a different install front end
[09:00] <Don_jr> Great, it's acctually installing in the text based version where it wouldn't from the live CD
[09:00] <bean-oh> gil_ shoot
[09:00] <Don_jr> I just wanted to make sure it was still the latest version
[09:00] <gil_> where is the root index for apache?
[09:00] <lupine_85> text-based is more stable :)
[09:00] <gil_> where do i place all files etc....
[09:00] <sethk> Madkiss, I think it generates every one for which an i18 package was installed
[09:00] <sethk> gil_, usually /var/www
[09:01] <Brushwell> How do I resize an existing ext3 partition, with a linux distro already on, to create a new one for Ubuntu?
[09:01] <sethk> gil_, if you use virtual servers, they will be in subdirectories of /var/www
[09:01] <yawn9> i did what this wireless info said to do earlier and it's not working
[09:01] <bean-oh> gil_ look in your httpd.conf or apache2.conf, DocumentRoot specifies this.
[09:01] <yawn9> just says eth1 fails to come up or whatever
[09:01] <gil_> ok so var/www
[09:01] <sethk> Brushwell, gparted will do that.  back up before adjusting partitions sizes
[09:01] <gil_> now...another question
[09:01] <lupine_85>  /var/www/apache2-default is where the default apache page is
[09:01] <claus> Is there a command that tells you you're net card name and wireless card name?
[09:01] <lupine_85> lspci or lsusb
[09:01] <Brushwell> sethk: tried it, didn't work.
[09:01] <claus> your*
[09:01] <|thunder> claus, ya. dmesg
[09:01] <lupine_85> ^claus^
[09:01] <Madkiss> sethk: yeah, but it nly generates UTF-8. I want latin1.
[09:02] <UKMatt> so this is an odd petty question, but when you click the menu button in gnome, does anyone know how to get rid of those arrows up and down that come up sometimes
[09:02] <claus> ok
[09:02] <GUIPEnguin_> anyone else ever had the problem of the gui installer freezing while "installing system"?    this is rediculus
[09:02] <|thunder> claus, er, ya lspci   thats it
[09:02] <Don_jr> Can I get a confirmation that the Netgear WG511 wireless card is compatible with Ubuntu?  I can't find it anywehre but someone in here last night said it would...
[09:02] <lupine_85> Don_jr: what chipset is it?
[09:02] <drezha> just stuck with the text installers really
[09:02] <Don_jr> GUIPEnguin_ yes, it did the same thing to me, so I got the text based installer
[09:02] <gil_> how do i set up  photo galleryh
[09:02] <gil_> basic thumbnails and full images
[09:03] <Don_jr> lupine_85 how do I find out the chipset?  I was just told to make sure it was model number WG511
[09:03] <sethk> Madkiss, did you search for packages that might be related to latin1?
[09:03] <UKMatt> does anyone even know what i'm talking about with the arrows?
[09:03] <lupine_85> are you in windows at the moment?
[09:03] <GUIPEnguin_> Don_jr: thanks...I normaly do tex-based installs (gentoo) but I thought I would try the ubuntu gui installer...I didnt think it would be this crappy
[09:03] <Madkiss> sethk: no
[09:03] <sethk> UKMatt, I don't :)
[09:03] <Linuturk_code> GUIPEnguin_, yeah, i like the text based installer way better
[09:03] <Don_jr> GUIPEnguin_ yeah, I had some pretty major problems with it last night myself so decided to go the other way, it's worth it
[09:03] <sethk> Madkiss, I just did, but I didn't find anything terribly interesting  (:
[09:04] <bean-oh> gil_, there are plenty of public php scripts that do this. you'll need to kinda poke around to get this going
[09:04] <Madkiss> sethk: errr ....
[09:04] <UKMatt> sethk, when you click the menu button, soemtimes it'll give me arrows up and down to make me scroll to the other programs, sometimes it wont, i wanna get rid of them
[09:04] <drezha> any idea of how to "set tftpd-hpa to be started by inetd"?
[09:04] <Diabolic> sethk: Well, I installed kdm, chose kdm as default there, restarted, got an error about not finding the theme file but now the login screen said "Welcome to Kubuntu".  I logged in and GNOME started.
[09:04] <Don_jr> lupine_85 how do I find out the chipset in my wireless card? would it be on the box or what?
[09:04] <sethk> GUIPEnguin_, you can install breezy with the older graphical install, which works beautifully, and upgrade to dapper.
[09:04] <sethk> GUIPEnguin_, or just stay with breezy for a few more weeks, which is what I'm doing on most of my systems.
[09:04] <gil_> ok thanks
[09:04] <lupine_85> not usually on the wireless card - in windows you'd normally have to resort to browsing the .inf file
[09:04] <Linuturk_code> sethk, what happens in a few more weeks ?
[09:05] <GUIPEnguin_> are the text-based dapper installation cds provided on the same page the gui cds are?
[09:05] <sethk> Diabolic, ok, clearly not all of kde is installed
[09:05] <gil_> just got back from an awesome trip in gros morne park....i wanna place my pics on the server
[09:05] <sethk> Linuturk_code, things stabalize and are fixed
[09:05] <gil_> ok thanks all
[09:05] <Diabolic> sethk: Any idea what I'm missing?
[09:05] <Don_jr> lupine_85 I can put the install CD into this box i"m on here which is still running XP and check the .inf file if that will find it?
[09:05] <sethk> Linuturk_code, I never install a new release until it's been out for three months
[09:05] <Heda> are there no equivalents of media player - ie one which will play both audio and video - it all seems to be one or the other
[09:05] <sethk> Diabolic, let me check the kde packages
[09:05] <Linuturk_code> sethk, i installed the night of the release ;p
[09:05] <Diabolic> sethk: 'kubuntu-desktop' and 'kdm' is all I've installed.
[09:05] <lupine_85> it's ok, looks like google knows
[09:06] <Linuturk_code> sethk, no major problems
[09:06] <lupine_85> is it just a wg511 or is it a wg511v2 ?
[09:06] <Don_jr> let me check
[09:06] <sethk> Diabolic, bring up synaptic, and look at the two KDE sections (KDE Desktop Environment and Kde Desktop Environment (univeral)
[09:06] <Brushwell> No luck with GParted in resizing the partitions.
[09:06] <lupine_85> http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/15-802.11g-Netgear-WG511-and-Linux.html and http://verens.com/archives/2005/02/21/installing-a-netgear-wg511-v2-marvell-chipset-in-linux/
[09:06] <drezha> how can I set set tftpd-hpa to be started by inetd?
[09:06] <sethk> Diabolic, I would install everything in KDE Desktop Environment except internationalization files (unless you want internationalization, of course)
[09:06] <yawn9> so with my wireless card, the settings look right in iwconfig. when i try to bring it up with "sudo ifup eth1" i get this error twice: SIOCSFFLAGS: no such file or directory and it says it failed to bring it up
[09:06] <GUIPEnguin_> is the "atternate install cd"  for ubuntu dapper... << is that the text-based?
[09:07] <Don_jr> lupine_85 just WG511 it's not v2
[09:07] <lupine_85> linuxant is like ndiswrapper on steroids, but it is $20
[09:07] <drezha> GUIP - yeah
[09:07] <GUIPEnguin_> k
[09:07] <lupine_85> in that case, you can get it working with the prism driver, I think
[09:07] <jperez> is it just me or did the forums go down?
[09:07] <michaels__> |thunder, in the unlikely case you were wondering, it still didn't work after that but then I figured out that "rotate" is an argument for the -vf option (filter)
[09:07] <sethk> yawn9, are you sure the required kernel modules are loaded?  do they show up when you do:   lsmod   ?
[09:07] <lupine_85> Don_jr: http://prism54.org/
[09:07] <Don_jr> lupine_85 it's already passed the network adapter part of installation, I can alter that once it's installed correct?
[09:08] <yawn9> let me go check. the card is listed if i go to the networking administration window though so i think so
[09:08] <sethk> yawn9, you are probably correct, but check anyway
[09:09] <lupine_85> Don_jr: yes
[09:09] <lupine_85> the install cd is pretty useless for setting up wlan
[09:09] <chuckles> compiz problem: no window borders, some error about gnome decorator, help plz
[09:09] <Don_jr> lupine_85 okay, I'm reading that site you gave me and if I need anymore help I'll ask around
[09:10] <jperez> hello all
[09:10] <varsendaggr> chuckles, go to ubutu-xgl
[09:10] <chuckles> ok?
[09:11] <tepus6> hi i recently downloaded a .daa disk image and was wondering if there was a program capable of converting/burning these?
[09:11] <varsendaggr> hey   is there a way to graphically edit fstab?
[09:11] <lupine_85> ok. worst-case scenario is that it'll cost you $20 to get it working on linux. best-case is free linux driver. ndiswrapper might also work.
[09:11] <tepus6> varsendaggr, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:11] <lupine_85> looks promising anyway ::)
[09:12] <Don_jr> lupine_85 I'm hopeing the fella last night that said ti would work by just plugging it in was right...lol
[09:12] <varsendaggr> tepus6, ok how aobut when i use the disk manager how can i write these to fstab perminantly?
[09:12] <Don_jr> but it never hurts to get a second oppinion
[09:12] <yawn9> sethk, actually, i'm not sure if they are. i see rfcomm listed in lsmod but other than that nothing looks like it's related to wifi
[09:13] <islan> hey, what's the streaming radio interface called again>
[09:13] <islan> ?
[09:13] <drezha> varsendagger - if you use sudo gedit /ete/fstab and save, it save it permenantly
[09:13] <tepus6> varsendaggr, im sorry im not sure on that
[09:14] <jperez> nevermind, i'm outta here.
[09:14] <sethk> yawn9, I would expect to see a couple specifically related to your hardware
[09:14] <nickd2> I am trying to install server amd64 and it hangs on setting up ubuntu-minimal. I have tried burning 3 diff intstall cd's and the iso md5 checks out. I need help!
[09:14] <varsendaggr> akkk    and has anyone been able to ((  islan that is streamtuner  ))    get an mp3 ripper to encode and do it small
[09:14] <lupine_85>  Don_jr: the kernel has the prism54 drivers in it by default, so it should detect and set it up automatically
[09:14] <islan> varsendaggr, ah, thankees@!
[09:14] <tepus6> will any software burn a .daa disk image?
[09:14] <Juhaz> tepus6, unlikely
[09:15] <tepus6> hmmm
[09:15] <yawn9> sethk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported lists my card as being able to work "out of the box" which i thought meant i wouldn't have to load any modules. any hints on how i would find the right one? it's a linksys wmp54g
[09:15] <sivanicon> Anyone have any insite on running linux apps on windows?
[09:15] <drezha> varsendagger, sound juicer extractor can copy to MP3
[09:15] <sivanicon> err insight*
[09:15] <yawn9> just driving me nuts because it's listed in there but i can't get the interface up
[09:15] <nox-Hand> I want grub reinstalled to hda1.. can someone tell me how?
[09:15] <varsendaggr> drezha, yeah but the files are huge
[09:15] <drezha> look in the readme of if and it says how
[09:15] <varsendaggr> drezha,
[09:15] <varsendaggr> ohh
[09:15] <dojo> has anoyne had this eror when installing a pakage:dependency is not sarisfiable: linux headers-2.6.15-23
[09:15] <Don_jr> lupine_85 that would be awesome.  IF I can get it up and runnin online, I'll change my entire network over to ubuntu
[09:15] <dojo> how do u fix it
[09:16] <drezha> mine rips at 128kps by default I think
[09:16] <varsendaggr> how big are the files?
[09:16] <syntaxx> does anyone know a site for where i can get a mysql old releases?
[09:16] <knapper> what repository can I find the latest amarok (unstable)?
[09:16] <varsendaggr> my mp3s were 80 mb per track
[09:16] <drezha> :O
[09:17] <synic> syntaxx: apt-get.org
[09:17] <drezha> 3.5Mb to 4Mb usually
[09:17] <varsendaggr> knapper, if you google apt-get    there is the unofficial repos   and you can search for every thing
[09:17] <varsendaggr> ak
[09:17] <Brushwell> it's amaroK for a reason. Look at the K, the K! it's not amaroG. :D
[09:17] <profoX`> its renamed Amarok
[09:17] <profoX`> :P
[09:17] <knapper> varsendaggr thanks
[09:17] <dojo>  has anoyne had this eror when installing a pakage:dependency is not sarisfiable: linux headers-2.6.15-23
[09:17] <Brushwell> still no G! :P
[09:17] <varsendaggr> drezha, can you tell me what your code is in the juicer thing is
[09:17] <profoX`> Brushwell: Amarog would sound... stupid :)
[09:17] <Brushwell> exactly!
[09:17] <drezha> you have to create a new profile called MP3
[09:18] <Brushwell> you GNOME folks use Rhythmbox :P
[09:18] <varsendaggr> udio/x-raw-int,rate=440,channels=2 ! lame name=enc preset=1001 ! id3v2mux
[09:18] <varsendaggr> yeah   i did that
[09:18] <varsendaggr> drezha,
[09:18] <sethk> dojo, have you done apt-get update ?
[09:18] <Brushwell> us KDE homegrowns will use amaroK. :P
[09:18] <drezha> thats what mine is though
[09:18] <profoX`> knapper: in #kubuntu-offtopic someone made the latet version available 1.4.2
[09:18] <drezha> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux
[09:18] <yawn9> sethk, i'm going to try the instructions on this page: http://bcm43xx.spugna.org/index.php?topic=29.0 iwconfig lists my card as a 4306
[09:18] <syntaxx> synic, how bout from source?
[09:18] <sethk> yawn9, ok, good luck.
[09:19] <drezha> ah it's a bit different...
[09:19] <drezha> try audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux
[09:19] <dojo> apt-get  update no but dont i need to be connected to the net for that
[09:19] <yawn9> going to be a pain since i don't have internet access on it for wget though. lol
[09:19] <sethk> dojo, yes, but you also need to be connected to the net to satisfy dependencies
[09:19] <drezha> think it's because you've got a smaller rate...I presume thats how often it sample the track
[09:19] <islan> okay, um, did I do something wrong with streamtuner's installation?  not showing up on the menu
[09:19] <sethk> dojo, you can download the .deb file, but of course to do that you'll have to have a machine on the 'net, although it can be a different box
[09:19] <dojo> no but i downloaded the pkage i have it
[09:20] <dojo> yes i  did thatg
[09:20] <sethk> dojo, oh, then you can install with dkpg -i
[09:20] <varsendaggr> islan, try to run it from the command line
[09:20] <dojo> kk thx ill try that
[09:20] <Don_jr> idiot question...what is python?
[09:21] <Brushwell> Don_jr: a programming language.
[09:21] <Don_jr> k thanx
[09:21] <Don_jr> thought so but wasn't clear
[09:21] <synic> a quite nice one at that :)
[09:22] <Don_jr> I know nothing about programming right now...this is going to be a great learning experience.  This is my first nix system ever used
[09:22] <Don_jr> I hope ubuntu was the right choice for an inexperienced user like myself.
[09:22] <islan> varsendaggr, that's what I did, seemed to install okay, but it's not on the gnome menu
[09:22] <sethk> Don_jr, python is a nice language to learn with
[09:23] <sethk> Don_jr, it is.  Remember, unix was designed to be a programming environment
[09:23] <prat> when i do 'sudo ln -s /boot/System.map-2.6.15 /boot/System.map', i get a "file exists" error...does this mean that i need to delete the System.map symlink before i can relink that?
[09:23] <Don_jr> Right, that and it's networking security and ability are why I want to learn it...and to get away from the microsoft monopoly
[09:24] <sethk> Don_jr, you should not let politics into your technical decision making
[09:24] <mechmg93> hi, im trying to setup my iptables firewall to work with vsftpd. my vsftpd.conf is herehttp://pastebin.ca/147919. i put these lines http://pastebin.ca/147920 in my iptables but i cannot acces my ftp server. hav any idea???
[09:24] <varsendaggr> islan, it should be under sound and video
[09:25] <nickd2> is there a bug in the current amd64 server installer? I can't get past configuring ubuntu-minimal
[09:25] <islan> varsendaggr, yeah I know, and it's not there O.o
[09:25] <islan> and it tells me that it is installed
[09:25] <Don_jr> sethik XP has been one of the most unreliable OS's I've ever used, 98 crashes every hour.....and the nix systems are almost completely customizable once you learn how to run them from what I hear....it's more than just the polotics
[09:25] <islan> varsendaggr, here, I'll try the menu editor...
[09:25] <anthony_> hello
[09:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sethk: It goes beyone politics, it is security... integrity... expense
[09:26] <sethk> Don_jr, that's fine.  I was talking about your remark about monopoly
[09:26] <varsendaggr> islan, how about runing it from the command line
[09:26] <varsendaggr> xterm
[09:26] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, I've been using it for 30 years, you don't have to convince me
[09:26] <islan> varsendaggr, it shows up in the menu editor
[09:26] <islan> aha, and now it is magically there
[09:26] <Don_jr> Tired of microsoft charging for everysingle thing.  You pay 200 bucks for thier OS then they want to charge you for them to fix it...it's annoying
[09:26] <sethk> Don_jr, true
[09:26] <nox-Hand> I have a floppy.img, which I need transfered to my /dev/fd0
[09:26] <nox-Hand> How do I do this?
[09:26] <sethk> Don_jr, there are plenty of technical reasons, you don't need the political ones  :)
[09:26] <varsendaggr> islan, that is cool
[09:27] <sethk> nox-Hand, dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0
[09:27] <sethk> nox-Hand, that assumes floppy.img is in the current directory
[09:27] <anthony_> I tried to install the ati drivers through Easy Ubuntu, and it hasn't worked.  Can anyone help please?  (Im completely new to all this stuff....:) )
[09:27] <Don_jr> if/when I learn the commands of bash and possibly one of the programming languages built into the nix system, I'll be able to make it do pretty much anything I want.  I like the sounds of that
[09:27] <sethk> nox-Hand, if that's not true,   dd if=/whatever/floppy.img of=/dev/fd0
[09:27] <Don_jr> and I like to learn, gives me something to keep my mind busy and learn to do
[09:27] <Don_jr> I'll be living in here for a couple of weeks! lmao
[09:27] <sethk> Don_jr, true.  I'd recommend zsh.  zsh (and bash also) are available in windows as well as unix
[09:28] <nox-Hand> sethk: Well, when I do that, it just sorta emties the .img file. It gets to fill 0 bytes, and does nothing to the floppy.
[09:28] <sethk> nox-Hand, do this:   du -h floppy.img      tell me what it reports
[09:28] <varsendaggr> crap    my mp3s are comming out 22 mb
[09:28] <yawn9> is gcc not in the default installation? i can't run "make" on the application that i'm trying to use to fix my wifi
[09:28] <Don_jr> sethk okay, that's cool cause I"ve still got xp on this computer, if I program something on my XP box with zsh can I transfer it to my nix system
[09:28] <sethk> yawn9, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:29] <yawn9> thanks
[09:29] <sethk> Don_jr, yes
[09:29] <nox-Hand> 0 floppy.img sethk
[09:29] <Don_jr> Great
[09:29] <sethk> nox-Hand, ok, it's an empty file
[09:29] <Don_jr> and no more pop ups, spyware and what not....I"m very excited to get it running
[09:29] <sethk> nox-Hand, usually that means the download didn't complete for some reason
[09:29] <anthony_> How do I install the ATI drivers please anyone?
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <nox-Hand> sethk: No...just gimme a sec, will re-extract the file
[09:30] <sethk> Don_jr, I only use windows these days to print on my photo printer; I create the image on linux bu do the actually printing on windows
[09:30] <nox-Hand> sethk: now it says 1,5 mb
[09:30] <anthony_> cheers
[09:30] <sethk> nox-Hand, ok, try the dd command again
[09:31] <Don_jr> sethk that's pretty cool, I'm looking forward to working with it.  And with the 4 or more desktops at once, that's great.  I can chat on one, brows on another and program in a 3rd and not have my space all cluttered
[09:31] <Don_jr> there's so much I've read about it that I love..it's great!
[09:32] <nox-Hand> sethk: It said it did 61 mb/s, and then it exits. How do I check whether it worked?
[09:33] <sethk> nox-Hand, you can reverse the process:   do this:    dd if=/dev/fd0 of=some-file-name      then, when that's done, do    md5sum floppy.img some-file-name      and see if they are the same
[09:33] <lupine_85> or just mount the floppy? ;)
[09:34] <richiefrich> getbacktoher issues?
[09:34] <Sarra_> Spamming
[09:34] <azureal> hi; what's a good graphical printer-finding prog
[09:34] <nox-Hand> 2Stop him!!
[09:34] <azureal> yep, spamming
[09:35] <Sarra_> Good freaking riddance
[09:35] <sethk> lupine_85, that's true, but I don't know the file system type
[09:35] <azureal> always fun to watch people get 'K-lined'
[09:35] <sethk> Sarra_, who?  I didn't see anything.
[09:35] <Acidian> ^
[09:35] <Acidian> ^^
[09:35] <sethk> what did I miss?
[09:35] <nox-Hand> sethk: right
[09:35] <Sarra_> getbacktoher was spamming
[09:35] <nox-Hand> sethk: They are :D
[09:35] <richiefrich>  /mod +b *!*@c-24-218-232-*.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[09:36] <nickd2> anyone know why my amd64 install hangs on configuring ubununtu-minimal?
[09:36] <sethk> I have join/part messages filtered, maybe that's why I didn't see it
[09:36] <Sarra_> Bingo
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[09:36] <leetwoot> hunder Griver aLPHa_LeaK ezenu patwack
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[09:36] <exs> wtf
[09:36] <amki> ...
[09:36] <leetwoot>  Corporal_Dirge ghost KyleAnderson mnvl harisund_ [Deathmaster]  StephenL epinephrine elate Skymaker sambagirl mr3vil`zZz ajopaul_ legion_nux frafu nlindblad holycow billybennett RetLaw _JP ench0 rsk MystaMax rgould h1 lilbit idefix dmoyne BlackBrain wweasel dra Yvonne Tomcat_ FRET klm- s_h_a_d_o_w_s tclark reggaemanu salah adaran zeno53 gekko`_ ielliott ollesbrorsa cyzie ZoomCities dashriKe baskew klos
[09:36] <amki> stfu
[09:36] <bipolar> wtf
[09:36] <xepher> wtf...
[09:36] <fdoving> !ops
[09:36] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:36] <MenZa> !ops
[09:36] <virogenesis> dick
[09:36] <nox-Hand> CRAP.. leetwoot is probably the same guy
[09:36] <Don_jr> sethk that would be great, how do I do that? filter out the enter and exit messages?  I"m new to this IRC too
[09:36] <raphink> someone is trying to be kicked here
[09:36] <xored> bb
[09:36] <exs> spam.. kick him
[09:36] <Qball>  don't kick me
[09:36] <MenZa> Seveas: saves the day.
[09:36] <Qball> please
[09:36] <raphink> ah
[09:36] <Qball> I'll be good
[09:36] <raphink> kicked ;)
[09:36] <sethk> Don_jr, in xchat, right click on the channel tab
[09:36] <raphink> pfeiw
[09:36] <xepher> whew
[09:36] <Sarra_> I'm getting server spamming
[09:37] <Don_jr> oh..lol I'm still on windows
[09:37] <hurax> er?
[09:37] <sethk> Don_jr, then go to the #ubuntu pull down
[09:37] <stack_> I'm using winbind to authenticate to Active Directory... unfortunately, I'm on a laptop, which means authentication only works when I'm connected to the network.  Is there any way around this?
[09:37] <hurax> oh just a spammer
[09:37] <profoX`> pffff again ._.
[09:37] <sethk> Don_jr, you can probably do it there, but I have no idea how.  xchat does exist for windows, I believe.
[09:37] <synic> Don_jr: http://www.silverex.org
[09:37] <exs> Umm, now that the spammer went.. Is there any software for ubuntu for my sony ericsson mobile phone?
[09:37] <shaantanu> !pastebin
[09:37] <Rondom> grrrrr.....
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:37] <Don_jr> I'm lookin
[09:37] <profoX`> I'm receiving chinese spam -_-'
[09:37] <Seveas> profoX`, from who?
[09:37] <raphink> thanks for reacting so promptly Seveas
[09:37] <s_h_a_d_o_w_s> [ut in the ubuntu cd in while windowz ism uning
[09:38] <Don_jr> downloading now
[09:38] <profoX`> Seveas: I don't know - didn't check - I meant on my email ;)
[09:38] <sethk> I wish I knew why I'm missing the spam so I could do it on purpose  :)
[09:38] <profoX`> not on IRC
[09:38] <Seveas> heh ;)
[09:38] <Rondom> there was someone mass-pinging some hours ago, wasn't he?
[09:38] <richiefrich> Seveas ty man
[09:38] <nickd2> anyone know why my amd64 install hangs on configuring ubununtu-minimal?
[09:38] <yawn9> the walkthroughs say to use "wget http://openwrt.inf.fh-brs.de/~nbd/wl_apsta.o" but since my wifi isn't working, naturally i cant use wget. so i try to get it from firefox on windows and they have a redirect on it where you can only download it from wget. ugh.
[09:38] <Ash-Fox> !kops
[09:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:38] <sethk> nickd2, no, I've not seen that
[09:38] <yawn9> can someone download that file and send it to me?
[09:38] <DBO> oh hes gone...
[09:38] <rambo3> how do i fix xorg , i get that ABI and no drivers found EE
[09:38] <Seveas> DBO, everything's under control ;)
[09:39] <Brushwell> !ops
[09:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:39] <Brushwell> xD
[09:39] <profoX`> lol
[09:39] <DBO> Seveas, when you are here NOTHING is under control =P  (btw, nice speed on that ban)
[09:39] <MAis> Ei mah tu t a?
[09:39] <Don_jr> okay, brb
[09:39] <eXistenZ> How can I know the size of a trip?
[09:39] <yawn9> can someone run wget wget http://openwrt.inf.fh-brs.de/~nbd/wl_apsta.o and send me the file? they have a redirect on it where you can't download it from a browser and i don't have access to wget yet
[09:39] <Seveas> MAis, english please
[09:39] <eXistenZ> s/trip/folder
[09:40] <profoX`> DBO: he's an expert at these things
[09:40] <Seveas> !br
[09:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:40] <sethk> eXistenZ, du -sh
[09:40] <Seveas> profoX`, so is DBO ;) (but let's not go offtopic here)
[09:40] <Linuturk_code> o, so if we need help, we can use that ops command, sweet :)
[09:40] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, example:  du -h /home
[09:40] <profoX`> lol -- right :)
[09:40] <rambo3> how do i fix xorg , i get that ABI and no drivers found EE
[09:40] <DBO> Linuturk_code, yes, but please dont abuse it, it rather annoys us if you just press it for no reason
[09:40] <profoX`> Linuturk_code: only for help with trolls / spammers etc.
[09:40] <eyequeue> !xorgfix
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <sethk> eyequeue, -sh  to get the total only
[09:40] <profoX`> !xorgbug
[09:40] <Don_jr> okay, in xchat now
[09:40] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[09:41] <phreakys> hm, alt bug is fixed with the update now
[09:41] <Linuturk_code> DBO, profoX` of course, I wouldn't do that
[09:41] <eXistenZ> eyequeue, but that would list all the folders inside the folder. How can I get the size of the folder itself?
[09:41] <eyequeue> sethk, true, and i like -hcs /home/* for a per-user, and a summary
[09:41] <sethk> eXistenZ, du -sh
[09:41] <Don_jr> quite the difference from what I was on.....
[09:41] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, sethk is correct
[09:41] <g333k_work> Hi I cant open synaptic, either the network admin, I receive this error message: Couldnt copy the user's Xautorization file.
[09:41] <eXistenZ> eyequeue, sethk, Thank you
[09:41] <abonilla> Hi, Is XGL in Dapper or now on Edgy>?
[09:41] <yasser> when i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???
[09:41] <Qball> remove executable bit
[09:42] <oiad_> selber emo
[09:42] <abonilla> I just saw some karroro or so Live CD and is awesome.
[09:42] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, but as a future reference, "man du" will give all the options, try it with any command you wonder about
[09:42] <profoX`> abonilla: karroro? :)
[09:42] <shaantanu> guys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21572
[09:42] <synic> abonilla: xgl is pretty easy to set up in dapper
[09:42] <yasser> when i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???
[09:42] <eyequeue> !xgl > abonilla
[09:42] <abonilla> profoX`: dunno
[09:42] <nox-Hand> &quit
[09:42] <eXistenZ> eyequeue, I didn't know the command du, that's why I had to know ;p
[09:42] <chuckles> yea, but compiz sure aint
[09:42] <aluno__> CABEA DE BILA
[09:42] <Don_jr> install is almost finished on the ubuntu box
[09:42] <profoX`> abonilla: #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[09:42] <synic> abonilla: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[09:42] <Seveas> aluno__, english only here (and no caps lock)
[09:42] <aluno__> FALA CABEA
[09:42] <Seveas> !br
[09:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:42] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[09:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, sure, no prob :)
[09:43] <aluno__> VOCE FALA BRASILEIRO
[09:43] <abonilla> synic: is it too heavy?
[09:43] <shaantanu> guys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21572
[09:43] <synic> abonilla: too heavy?
[09:43] <yasser> when i click on html files, a dialog appears asking me if i want to run, display or execute!! how can i make ubuntu open saved webpages with firefox in a snap???
[09:44] <eyequeue> Seveas, is that ban format including a redirect-if-join channel?  clever
[09:44] <abonilla> synic: I mean, heavy for the video card, cpu etc
[09:44] <sethk> yasser, set the desktop file associations
[09:44] <abonilla> synic: would it be easier if on Edgy?
[09:44] <Sjoerd-> yasser: clear ff cache first
[09:44] <Seveas> eyequeue, yes, it's one of the more clever things on freenode
[09:44] <sethk> you redirect them to a channel you hate?
[09:44] <synic> abonilla: what card do you have?
[09:44] <eyequeue> sethk, lol
[09:44] <yasser> sethk, aint it already set that html files open with firefox?
[09:44] <g333k_work> Hi, any clue when receiving this error message: "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." ??
[09:45] <abonilla> synic: embedded on a P4 box. Intel Graphics, 715 or so. This is work PC
[09:45] <taromb> guys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21572
[09:45] <synic> abonilla: oh, I dunno... you do need a fairly decent 3d card
[09:45] <abonilla> synic:  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[09:45] <sethk> yasser, from your description, no
[09:45] <Linuturk_code> tarbomb, don't keep pasting the same question over and over please
[09:45] <Seveas> !repeat > tarbomb
[09:45] <synic> abonilla: it works fine on my ati xpress 200m, but I don't know how that compares
[09:45] <abonilla> synic: OK, but is it easuer on Edgy>?
[09:46] <yasser> sethk, i see....but its a fresh install and i tweaked nothin...
[09:46] <synic> abonilla: dunno, I've only tried dapper.
[09:46] <kling0n> any suggestions for removing all packages (using --purge) except base-system in one command?
[09:46] <oiad_> selber emo
[09:46] <tarbomb> !patience
[09:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:46] <kakog> hmm gnome sure is different....
[09:46] <finalbeta> !font
[09:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[09:46] <kakog> how do i customize gnome?
[09:47] <abonilla> synic: works fine?
[09:47] <Dial_tone> gconf-editor
[09:47] <synic> abonilla: yeah
[09:47] <kakog> i want to change the location of the buttons and behaviour of the window- titlebars just like in KDE
[09:47] <Don_jr> Oh no....installer at 97% says "cleaning up.."  And nothing is happening.........
[09:47] <synic> kakog: system->preferences->theme
[09:48] <kakog> synic: all i can do there is to change how it looks
[09:48] <Linuturk_code> kakog, try right clicking. You can do a lot from the context menu
[09:48] <phreakys> hm weird. all themes in compiz have their button rollovers wrongly placed
[09:48] <Linuturk_code> kakog, middle click and hold, and you can move panels
[09:48] <UKMatt> What's the difference between GTK, Metacity and GDM
[09:49] <synic> kakog: kakog click on "theme details" - you can change the "controls" look
[09:49] <ardchoille> kakog: To change the titlebar buttons, Open the gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general, find button_layout and rearrange the key.
[09:49] <Don_jr> if the install freezes at 'clean up' it's still not going to be bootable eh?
[09:49] <synic> Don_jr: hah, depends on what it was doing at the time :)
[09:50] <kakog> synic: all i can change is the control, icons, and window borders
[09:50] <kakog> in that menu
[09:50] <Don_jr> says "select and install software" at 97%"  'cleaning up..'  and appears to be stuck
[09:50] <tarbomb> guys I m having a problem with my sound .... this problem is a recursive and random problem ... if I restart , it might go away ... heres my esddsp xmms http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21572
[09:50] <synic> kakog: afaik, the button location is determined by the control theme.
[09:50] <kakog> ok
[09:51] <ardchoille> synic: You can change the arrangement of the buttons in the metacity stuff in gconf-editor
[09:51] <ardchoille> kakog: To change the titlebar buttons, Open the gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general, find button_layout and rearrange the key.
[09:51] <synic> ardchoille: ah, cool.
[09:51] <abaddon> booting from usb failing anyone want to help?
[09:51] <phreakys> wonder if it's possible to have multiple workspaces in cgwd (like different desktop icons/background)
[09:51] <kakog> ardchoille: i dont got gconf-edito yet.. 2sec
[09:51] <anthony_> I just installed the ati drivers.  how can I get the screen resolution to 1280 x 800 ?
[09:52] <Stonebreaker> Hello. I have two machines. One with ubuntu but not internet connection, and one with internet connection but with winXP. I want to install gcc and g++ in the ubuntu machine? How will I do that?
[09:52] <ardchoille> kakog: gconf-editor is a nice tool to have, IMHO
[09:52] <Linuturk_code> yeah, can you have different backgrounds on each workspace in gnome?
[09:52] <phreakys> would be nice. doesnt that depend on cgwd?
[09:52] <DBO> Linuturk_code, how does no work for you?
[09:52] <bienvenido_> i want donwload the cibercontrol for linux ubunto
[09:52] <SpaceKebab> yeah it does depend on cgwd
[09:53] <ardchoille> kakog: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor ?
[09:53] <Linuturk_code> DBO, it's not life or death, but I'd like a yes, if you do this . . .
[09:53] <SpaceKebab> i think they're working on a plugin for it ?
[09:53] <phreakys> ill google some. let you know if i find some
[09:53] <Don_jr> okay, gonna try and reboot and see if the install took since it froze up
[09:53] <DBO> Linuturk_code, well the answer is no, it doesnt...
[09:53] <[wX] sk3wl> I just installed ubuntu 6.06 it never prompted for a user name
[09:53] <abaddon> booting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?
[09:53] <[wX] sk3wl> is there a default?
[09:53] <segerstrom> join/ #kubuntu
[09:54] <DBO> [wX] sk3wl, try ubuntu, if not simply boot into single user mode and check what it is in /etc/passwd
[09:54] <kakog> ardchoille: how do i get it to be on the left side of the titlebar?
[09:54] <Don_jr> DAMN, I'm never going to get this installed
[09:54] <UKMatt> how do you add a mouse theme?
[09:54] <kakog> Don_jr: just cancel and redo it
[09:54] <Don_jr> oh well, gotta go, have a good one
[09:54] <[wX] sk3wl> Didn't work...
[09:54] <Don_jr> gonna try, again kakog, I"ve done it a few times already
[09:55] <Don_jr> BBL
[09:55] <bienvenido_> me pueden ayudar a buscar un cibercontrol para linux ubuntu
[09:55] <Stonebreaker> so? any help please?
[09:55] <eyequeue> !es > bienvenido_
[09:55] <ems> hi
[09:55] <[wX] sk3wl> DBO how do you boot to single user?
[09:55] <segerstrom> hi
[09:55] <kakog> why is changing theese things such an hassle in gnome still... i think ill go back to kde again...
[09:55] <ems> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww nice video!
[09:55] <ardchoille> kakog: the normal layout is blah,blah:minimize,maximize,close the ":" is the seperator. You can do blah,blah,minimize,maximize:close to put everything except the max button on the right
[09:55] <DBO> [wX] sk3wl, just choose recovery mode from GRUB
[09:55] <ems> We own the industry
[09:55] <ardchoille> opps, I meant the left
[09:55] <[wX] sk3wl> kk h/o
[09:55] <Linuturk_code> DBO, how about in edgy? or is that gnome specific?
[09:56] <kakog> aaah thanks ardchoille
[09:56] <ardchoille> kakog: You're welcome :)
[09:56] <DBO> Linuturk_code, thats a gnome thing, there is a compiz plugin that does it for nautilus... but that is very hackish right now
[09:56] <Stonebreaker> please, some help
[09:56] <abaddon> booting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?
[09:56] <edju> Isn't there a cli x configurator?  Display's all messed up.
[09:57] <segerstrom> exit
[09:57] <bienvenido_> de donde puedo bajar el cibercontrol para linux ubuntu
[09:57] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, okay, i'll give you the concept that will apply to any packages
[09:57] <Linuturk_code> DBO, are the gnome dev's planning on adding that feature? I don't like hackish, it tends to break
[09:57] <Stonebreaker> ok, thanks
[09:57] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, ok, thanks
[09:57] <cjones> after i upgrade to dapper my screes res sucks and i cant change it can i find a back up xorg config file and try to run it ?
[09:57] <Jimmey> I've got a Windows 98 box connected to my laptop via ethernet cable. The laptop's wirelessly connected to my router. Can I share my laptop's internet connection with the Windows 98 box?
[09:57] <kakog> ardchoille: one more question, how do i make the windows minimize when i double click, lower on right click, and minimize/maximize when scrolling the mouse wheel?
[09:58] <kakog> Jimmey:
[09:58] <DBO> Linuturk_code, actually they REMOVED the feature...  figured it was too confusing or some such, yes I dont agree either
[09:58] <kakog> Jimmey:  yes
[09:58] <frying_fish> Jimmey: yes.
[09:58] <kakog> Jimmey: just use internet sharing
[09:58] <[wX] sk3wl> How are the computers linked? Jimmey
[09:58] <frying_fish> use dhcpd, and set up iptables well and it will do it.
[09:58] <Jimmey> Ethernet cable
[09:58] <[wX] sk3wl> Crossover?
[09:58] <ems> mad ubuntu video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww
[09:58] <Linuturk_code> DBO, I'd better go talk to them about this . . .
[09:58] <Linuturk_code> ;p
[09:59] <Jimmey> I could just setup the Windows 98 computer to have a static IP address though, right? How do I enable internet connection sharing?
[09:59] <abaddon> booting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?
[09:59] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, on the ubuntu box, type "apt-cache depends build-esential"  and write down the list of dependencies, plus the package name itself.  then, on your net-cnnected box, you d/l them each from http://packages.ubuntu.com, then sneakernet them over to the ubuntu box
[09:59] <ardchoille> kakog: Metacity is the default window manager in gnome and I don't think metacity can do those things. Metacity is very limited and that is why lots of folks switch to another wm in gnome.
[09:59] <frying_fish> Jimmey: you could set up static ip indeed.
[09:59] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, ok, thanks
[09:59] <kakog> ardchoille: what wm can do it then?
[09:59] <[wX] sk3wl> yah
[09:59] <edju> cli x configurator?  what is it?  anybody?
[09:59] <frying_fish> and if thereis no switch inbetween they will need a crossover cable.
[09:59] <Jimmey> frying_fish, my Laptop's local IP address is 192.168.1.199
[09:59] <cjones> how do i load a old xorg config ?
[10:00] <_tcc> Any reason when I try to play an AVI the program crashes?
[10:00] <sethk> edju, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <Jimmey> How can I make the Windows 98 box see my laptop, with just an ethernet cable
[10:00] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, the ubuntu box never had internet connection, how will it know the dependencies?
[10:00] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, from there, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb for each of them, you can put them all on one line, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb bar.deb baz.deb
[10:00] <ardchoille> kakog: Check out http://xwinman.org  for a nice list of window manager with descriptions
[10:00] <sethk> cjones, copy it to /etc/X11
[10:00] <frying_fish> Jimmey: it will need to be a crossover cable
[10:00] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, ok, thanks
[10:00] <sethk> cjones, if one is already there, back it up first
[10:00] <Jimmey> frying_fish, what's one of those?
[10:00] <frying_fish> and then set them both to have IP addresses, then just go about pinging each of them.
[10:00] <BlueLagun1> does apt keep a log, and if so, where?
[10:00] <edju> sethk,  Thanks a lot.
[10:00] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, but the .deb packages will be near a hundrend
[10:00] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, well, it will know them for the Pacakges.gz file it had from the cd, others it won't, you;ll have to rely on that web site
[10:01] <sethk> frying_fish, for most machines these days it will auto detect the cabling and compensate, so usually you can use a straight cable
[10:01] <Stonebreaker> ok, thanks
[10:01] <_tcc> Why might I not be able to play AVI files?
[10:01] <_tcc> At all?
[10:01] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, let me list them for you, for that, right here.   sec
[10:01] <Jimmey> sethk, I've got a bog standard ethernet cable.
[10:01] <frying_fish> sethk: yes for most, but if he is running a box that is old enough to still have win 98 then likely hood is it wont
[10:01] <bluefox83> ok, what is the next higher resolution above 1024x768?
[10:01] <abaddon> booting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?
[10:01] <cjones> sethk ok you have to walk me thru on this iam a newb but i just upgraded to dapper and now the best res i can get is like 600x800
[10:01] <sethk> frying_fish, possible
[10:01] <richiefrich> cjones u get them apps?
[10:01] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.0), g++ (>= 4:4.0), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5)
[10:01] <Jimmey> frying_fish, I'll try and get Dapper on it, but I can't get to the BIOS screen :(
[10:01] <sethk> cjones, when you get to the part about resolutions, choose the middle option.  then see what resolutions it believes your hardware is capable of.
[10:01] <vgtl> hi, is there a ppc specific ubuntu channel ?
[10:01] <owen_> has anyone tried installing the gaim 2.0 beta 3 from source forge?
[10:02] <cjones> richiefrich winch ones ?
[10:02] <garrett_> is it actually possible to get totem-gstreamer to play wmv? - it just won't work for me
[10:02] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, but they depend on others, too
[10:02] <richiefrich> cjones the im's
[10:02] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, btw thx for the listing
[10:02] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, sure
[10:02] <_tcc> Jimmey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_cable
[10:02] <richiefrich> cjones  bitlbee or  centericq
[10:02] <Stonebreaker> so, I will need also their list
[10:02] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, ?
[10:03] <garrett_> totem sucks !
[10:03] <cjones> richiefrich ive got bitlbee but still working on centerirc
[10:03] <richiefrich> cjones nice u like them
[10:03] <ardchoille> !openbox
[10:03] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[10:03] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, so, I will see each dependency?
[10:03] <_tcc> Why can I not play AVI filles?
[10:03] <meisam> hi guys...this is really urgent..please help me...im installing the EnterpriseDB...but the installer needs me to have the administrative privilage ...how can i have thta on dapper?
[10:03] <cjones> richiefrich i havent played with them much
[10:03] <_tcc> Every time I try and play an AVI the application crashes.
[10:03] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, I can't do his by hand. each dependency has many other dependencies, which have others, etc
[10:03] <sethk> meisam, do   sudo passwd      to set the root password.   then use su
[10:04] <Jimmey> Guys, I've got an ADSL router downstairs - Would using that help any?
[10:04] <Jimmey> I mean, a spare one.
[10:04] <frying_fish> Jimmey: greatly
[10:04] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, it will take me weeks to complete that
[10:04] <[wX] sk3wl> Lol
[10:04] <_tcc> You could make a bridge.
[10:04] <frying_fish> just plug them both into that and then they should see each other much easier.
[10:04] <kakog> !openbox
[10:04] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, two more lines    Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.3-1), gcc (>= 4:4.0.3-1), g++-4.0 (>= 4.0.3), gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.3)Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.3-1), gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.3)
[10:04] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[10:04] <abaddon> booting from usb failing, not mounting root filesystem anyone want to help?
[10:04] <ardchoille> kakog: If you're interested in switching window managers in gnome, have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[10:04] <bbrazil> Stonebreaker: apt-zip
[10:04] <_tcc> !avi
[10:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, Depends: dpkg (>= 1.13.1), perl5, perl-modules, cpio (>= 2.4.2-2), patch (>= 2.2-1), make, binutils
[10:04] <richiefrich> abaddon can u boot from usb ?
[10:04] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, that should cover you
[10:04] <Stonebreaker> bbrazil, please, could you help  me om apt-zip ?
[10:04] <richiefrich> abaddon your bios lets u ?
[10:04] <eXistenZ> How can I enable root?
[10:05] <eXistenZ> !root
[10:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:05] <bbrazil> Stonebreaker: I've never used it
[10:05] <shaantanu> I ran out of space on my root partition .. somebody help
[10:05] <abaddon> yes my bios does
[10:05] <cjones> sethk it will only let me select 640x480 @60hz i just want to go back to the xorg of brezzy
[10:05] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, I can't do this manually.
[10:05] <richiefrich> abaddon ok then whats the error ?
[10:05] <varsendaggr> shaantanu, what can you do?
[10:05] <sethk> cjones, it must have not properly identified either your video card or your monitor
[10:05] <richiefrich> abaddon does grub/lilo load ?
[10:05] <Daiferas> How does one create a wireless network with the network manager? Just put in a network name that isn't already there?
[10:05] <abaddon> I am booting to the point where it says mounting root filesystem and then it oes back to the syslinux screen
[10:05] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, I will need apt-zip
[10:05] <Daiferas> Oh, I need it to be ad-hoc too.
[10:05] <varsendaggr> go to tigerdirect.com and buy a new HD
[10:05] <meisam> sethk : thats all?
[10:05] <sethk> cjones, I'm staying with breezy for a few weeks more
[10:05] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, perhaps getting connectivity, at least temporariy, will need to become the priority
[10:06] <richiefrich> abaddon then u need to edit your /etc/fstab
[10:06] <_tcc> frying_fish, His NIC might support an internal crossover mechanism.
[10:06] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, ah
[10:06] <Stonebreaker> bbrazil, so, you can't help me with apt-zip
[10:06] <sethk> meisam, yes, that's all you need to do, unless I didn't understand the question properly
[10:06] <abaddon> I don't have ubuntu installed yet
[10:06] <bbrazil> Stonebreaker: no
[10:06] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, can you help me with apt-zip ?
[10:06] <[wX] sk3wl> wats the default username in Drake, it never prompted me for one during inst.
[10:06] <abaddon> I am trying to install it via usb (don't have cd drive)
[10:06] <richiefrich> abaddon err then what are u booting ?
[10:06] <richiefrich> PXE
[10:06] <richiefrich> :P
[10:06] <varsendaggr> ak all of my mp3's that i am ripping are like 30 gigs how do i make them smaller
[10:06] <sethk> [wX] sk3wl, try oem
[10:07] <c3030> Is there way to start GNOME without GDM?
[10:07] <[wX] sk3wl> kk lemme reboot the lappy
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[10:07] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, please? :)
[10:07] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, i just read the description of it ... i think you may have a problem
[10:07] <holycow> wtf?
[10:07] <yawn9> now it's telling me invalid access point. ugh
[10:07] <holycow> doesn't the dapper cd recognize windows installations?
 my journey so far is described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1417670#post1417670
[10:08] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, (I also have an ubuntu machine, elsewhere)
[10:08] <sethk> holycow, yes
[10:08] <frying_fish> holycow: it does, eventually.
[10:08] <holycow> it insists on reformatting / mounting the damned partition
[10:08] <varsendaggr> holycow, nope
[10:08] <_tcc> What the hell, that gave me no information about AVI, why is this failing?
[10:08] <ems> mad ubuntu video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww
[10:08] <_tcc> I cannot play AVI files at all.
[10:08] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, which has internet connection
[10:08] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, it generates a fetch script, but your connected box is ms, and i don't think it can run wget and lftp commands
[10:08] <frying_fish> holycow: doubtul that it insists
[10:08] <c3030> Can I run Gnome without GDM? Do I need to write a start script?
[10:08] <frying_fish> thats just its default and you can change it.
[10:08] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, ah, that will work then
[10:08] <_tcc> Anyone?
[10:08] <_tcc> Can anyone help?
[10:08] <[wX] sk3wl> varsendaggr try compressing the mp3's or using a different bit rate
[10:08] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, ok, tell me then :-)
[10:08] <holycow> frying_fish, it wants me to select a mount point for it ... it can't have a mount point its a windows partition
[10:08] <ems> c3030: startx
[10:08] <frying_fish> c3030: if you don't have any other window managers startx would do it.
[10:08] <BlueLagun1> is there anyway to easily undo the last apt-get upgrade?
[10:08] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, let me get you the dependencies for apt-zip
[10:08] <frying_fish> holycow: it can have a mount point
[10:08] <lordhelmet> is there a file that dictates the groups network users are part of upon login?
[10:09] <varsendaggr> startx /usr/bin/gnome
[10:09] <ems> c3030: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww
[10:09] <frying_fish> you *can* read ntfs in linux
[10:09] <holycow> frying_fish, what should that  be set to the n?
[10:09] <Stonebreaker> eyequeue, both two machined have apt-zip
[10:09] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, oh lol!  "depends: apt" heh
[10:09] <Stonebreaker> *machines
[10:09] <CalJohn> ems: youtube.  not everyone has flash ;)
[10:09] <frying_fish> holycow: whatever you want it to be
[10:09] <holycow> yes but ntfs is not an option in the installer for the mount
[10:09] <[wX] sk3wl> sethk, dude it worked thx bro
[10:09] <frying_fish> just don't tell it to format.
[10:09] <abaddon> someone should kick ems for spamming
[10:09] <sethk> [wX] sk3wl, np
[10:09] <frying_fish> holycow: you tell it to leave it alone and just mount it.
[10:09] <ems> abaddon: why?
[10:09] <holycow> it doesn't want to leave it alone
[10:09] <holycow> it wants to select a mount point
[10:09] <frying_fish> then you are doing soemthing *wrong*
[10:09] <abaddon> your video isn't about ubuntu
[10:10] <sethk> holycow, one of the "mount points" is do not use
[10:10] <Daiferas> How do you broadcast a wireless ad-hoc network?
[10:10] <frying_fish> selecting a mount point isn't going to format it.
[10:10] <holycow> no i'm clicking on the frickin next icon
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> anyway microsoft is bette\] '
[10:10] <holycow> there isn't much to do wrong
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> no
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> scrap
[10:10] <ems> abaddon: bs
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> I didn't wrote this
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> :P
[10:10] <meisam> sethk : see it did not work..i explain again..i have downloaded the package as EnterpriseDB, (thats ORDBMS), i extracted that, there was an read me over there, i read that, then i run the double click on the bin it showed me a window by asking run in terminal, then i press OK. then it was about to launch but it did not , actually it was launched but only there was an error saying , you have no administrative privilage...
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> i did
[10:10] <ems> abaddon: did you even watch it?
[10:10] <Stonebreaker> lol
[10:10] <abaddon> yes
[10:10] <_tcc> Hello?
[10:10] <shaantan1> ?nick tarbomb
[10:10] <abaddon> all your fakes are belong to us
[10:10] <frying_fish> ao when you have selected a mount point (and just pick one) what does it give next.
[10:10] <_tcc> Why might i not be able to play AVI files all of a sudden?
[10:10] <c3030> varsendaggr: /usr/bin/gnome doesn't exist
[10:10] <_tcc> Do i need a codec or somehting?
[10:10] <ems> abaddon: try watching it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lM57WpO-ww
[10:10] <_tcc> anyone?
[10:11] <ems> abaddon: it is about ubuntu
[10:11] <CalJohn> _tcc: what player?
[10:11] <_tcc> Every player.
[10:11] <_tcc> Nothing can play AVI.
[10:11] <CalJohn> _tcc: vlc?
[10:11] <abaddon> ems: wtf does zero wing have to do with ubuntu
[10:11] <frying_fish> _tcc: vlc, use vlc.
[10:11] <eyequeue> Stonebreaker, i was just reading "man apt-zip" (which you should too, it seems to explain it well) and it sounds pretty nifty
[10:11] <_tcc> VLC does not play.
[10:11] <lupine_85> use kaffeine or mplayer
[10:11] <ems> abaddon: ooops sorry wrong link
[10:11] <varsendaggr> c3030    well i don't know
[10:11] <ems> abaddon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQYhtPskEM
[10:11] <lupine_85> both work here
[10:11] <_tcc> None of them work.
[10:11] <CalJohn> _tcc: what are you testing it on?
[10:12] <c3030> varsendaggr: thanks anyway
[10:12] <CalJohn> _tcc: are you certain it's a correct avi?
[10:12] <shaantan1> I ran out of space on my root partition waht to do ??
[10:12] <abaddon> ems: much better
[10:12] <richiefrich> abaddon whats on there now?
[10:12] <_tcc> CalJohn, yes I am testing it on EVERY player I have.
[10:12] <richiefrich> abaddon windowsZ?
[10:12] <abaddon> on where? my thumb drive?
[10:12] <_tcc> It doesn't work on any of them.
[10:12] <abaddon> yes
[10:12] <xer0> i was wondering if anybody could help me with getting vmware-player working correctly.  for some reason it keeps messing up on the install.  i had vmware installed before and it worked fine, then stopped working so i uninstalled it and am trying to get it loaded again
[10:12] <CalJohn> _tcc: are you certain the file isn't broken
[10:12] <meisam> sethk : u r there?
[10:12] <lupine_85> shaatan: you can clear some space temporarily by getting rid of your cached packages
[10:12] <richiefrich> abaddon boot to that
[10:12] <holycow> frying_fish, nothing
[10:12] <_tcc> not unless all 10 of these are broken
[10:12] <sethk> meisam, yes
[10:12] <_tcc> and i remember playing it a while ago
[10:12] <CalJohn> _tcc: try another avi
[10:12] <holycow> frying_fish, it wants to mount it as /var/usr/boot
[10:12] <richiefrich> abaddon then.. install cygwin
[10:12] <shaantan1> lupine : how to do that
[10:13] <CalJohn> that one file could be broken
[10:13] <abaddon> I am in windows I have no other os installed
[10:13] <richiefrich> abaddon  then install from there
[10:13] <shaantan1> lupine : I want a solution for the long run
[10:13] <lupine_85> long-term solution is to increase the size of the partition
[10:13] <meisam> sethk did u see my last message?
[10:13] <holycow> does not let you click past with an empty selection
[10:13] <shaantan1> lupin : I m planning to install vmware
[10:13] <sethk> meisam, no, sorry
[10:13] <fdisk_> hye
[10:13] <frying_fish> holycow: choose something else.
[10:13] <xer0> it was giving me /dev/vmmon errors and when i modprobed vmmon it wasnt there, and i know very little about kernel type stuff
[10:13] <eyequeue> shaantan1, make one, mount it on /dummy, cp everything from /usr/ to /dummy, and tell fstab that the "dummy" is to be mounted on /usr, then mv /usr to /usrold and reboot
[10:13] <lupine_85> ok, go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:13] <frying_fish> or, tell it to not use it for now
[10:13] <holycow> frying_fish, you can't choose anything else
[10:13] <meisam> sethk : see it did not work..i explain again..i have downloaded the package as EnterpriseDB, (thats ORDBMS), i extracted that, there was an read me over there, i read that, then i run the double click on the bin it showed me a window by asking run in terminal, then i press OK. then it was about to launch but it did not , actually it was launched but only there was an error saying , you have no administrative privilage...
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[10:13] <[wX] sk3wl> lol
[10:13] <lupine_85> and delete all the .deb files
[10:13] <_tcc> CalJohn, it plays in kaffiene
[10:13] <_tcc> but i don't see video
[10:13] <_tcc> lol
[10:13] <eyequeue> shaantan1, when it all tests out okay, you can rm -rf /usrold
[10:13] <shaantan1> lupine: this does what
[10:14] <eXistenZ> I stopped a process, how can I resume it
[10:14] <CalJohn> _tcc: sounds like you're missing codecs.  use mplayer to figure out what streams are in to
[10:14] <holycow> frying_fish, you can't tell it to use nothing it wont let you
[10:14] <CalJohn> _tcc: in it
[10:14] <eugman> Hey anyone here have a samsung mp3 player? My coising has one and i want to know if i can get music onto it.
[10:14] <holycow> thats what i'm getting at
[10:14] <frying_fish> I'm fairly sure it does,
[10:14] <sethk> meisam, if you need to run it that way, you'll have to start the file browser as root.  Otherwise, bring up a root terminal and type the command in.
[10:14] <holycow> frying_fish, i'm looking at it right now
[10:14] <holycow> it doesn't
[10:14] <frying_fish> it did when I installed anyway
[10:14] <frying_fish> since I had it mount my windows partitions fine.
[10:14] <eyequeue> shaantan1, mine was a longerterm fix, but yes, deleting everything you don't need is a good shortterm one
[10:14] <Teknoenie> hi all
[10:14] <holycow> then someone updated the installer images because it doesn't now
[10:14] <Teknoenie> anyone here a v4l guru?
[10:15] <xer0> eh fuck this im goin back 2 windows
[10:15] <_tcc> CalJohn huh?
[10:15] <meisam> sethk :what command should i type?
[10:15] <holycow> there is no need to mount windows partitions anyway, just add them to the bootloader
[10:15] <W8TAH> hi folks - there is an package of software that needs to be installed to be able to compile stuff from source -- someone told me several months ago what it was, but i cant recall the name - can someone help me out please?
[10:15] <eyequeue> shaantan1, did "sudo apt-get clean" get mentioned yet?
[10:15] <sethk> meisam, whatever command you are clicking on
[10:15] <frying_fish> holycow: sure its useful to mount them
[10:15] <shaantan1> eyeque : no
[10:15] <eobanb> W8TAH, that would be build-essential
[10:15] <CalJohn> _tcc: mplayer will say what streams are in it when it tries to play it.  otherwise it will give some kind of error
[10:15] <eugman> !build-essential
[10:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:15] <shaantan1> eyeque: cud u talk to me in PM
[10:15] <W8TAH> eobanb, thank you very much
[10:15] <frying_fish> If you have certain things on them that you would like read access to, or if they are fat32
[10:15] <eyequeue> shaantan1, easy way to get rid of old deb files
[10:15] <CalJohn> _tcc: you might need a verbose flag
[10:15] <holycow> frying_fish, i'm not a newb dude, this installer is just borked.  i needed to confirm im not imagining that its this borked
[10:16] <shaantan1> eyequeue : ok will do that
[10:16] <frying_fish> holycow: then go use the alternate cd if you need something different.
[10:16] <lupine_85> when you install something using apt-get or synaptic, it saves the package file in that directory
[10:16] <lupine_85> it doesn't need the package file
[10:16] <lupine_85> in fact, it'll only ever use it if you re-install that piece of software
[10:16] <lupine_85> but it saves it anyway
[10:16] <holycow> ah that was my next question
[10:16] <lupine_85> Mine is 600MB at the moment
[10:16] <lupine_85> (to find out, run du -hs)
[10:16] <lupine_85> <-(in the directory)
[10:16] <cjones> richiefrich what was the secend one again ?
[10:16] <_tcc> CalJohn, grr, what am I finding out?
[10:16] <_tcc> The files play for about 1 second and crash.
[10:16] <holycow> frying_fish, what is this alternate cd stuff i seen up on the ftps?  does it offer the old di ?
[10:17] <richiefrich> cjones  bitlbee or  centericq
[10:17] <frying_fish> its a text based installer still
[10:17] <CalJohn> _tcc: paste the error
[10:17] <eyequeue> lupine_85, apt-get autoclean to save only the most recent version, apt-get clean to get rid of them all, if interested
[10:17] <holycow> perfect, i know di works
[10:17] <CalJohn> _tcc: (in a pastebin!)
[10:17] <lupine_85> ah, the automatic methods :)
[10:17] <bociek> hi all
[10:17] <x19771> does anyone know anything about Grub?
[10:18] <lupine_85>  existenz: type 'fg'
[10:18] <eXistenZ> lupine_85,thanks
[10:18] <eyequeue> x19771, most here could say yes, but ask what you need and see who knows that part
[10:18] <_tcc> CalJohn. http://pastebin.ca/147998
[10:18] <CalJohn> _tcc: it looks like your avi file contains some weird stream
[10:19] <CalJohn> _tcc: thanks
[10:19] <shaantan1> eyequueue : read the PM
[10:19] <shaantan1> plz respond
[10:19] <CalJohn> _tcc: here's the issue.  that's a weirdass video format
[10:19] <x19771> cool, ty,, basically, i was told that modifying my grub's "menu.list" would help my computer load ubuntu... (when i fire up the compy, i have to use the boot menu to get the OS to load,, and my bios is no help)
[10:20] <CalJohn> _tcc: I never even heard of it before
[10:20] <bluefox83> ok..for some reason my sound system is going wierd on me..only one speaker is working plus the bass...
[10:20] <CalJohn> _tcc: "TechSmith Camtasia Screen Codec (native)" means this is somewhat weird
[10:20] <_tcc> CalJohn, ah, what the hell
[10:21] <cjones> richiefrich i am installing it tight now
[10:21] <richiefrich> kowl
[10:21] <eyequeue> does anyone here hate zope? :)  looking for any negatives, while considering it (and of course their site won't list any)
[10:21] <holycow> eyequeue, just google
[10:21] <CalJohn> _tcc: you should ask on #mplayer whether they have any idea whether that is supported.  that's definately a very weird format.
[10:22] <CalJohn> _tcc: i have a hunch that playback of that format isn't possible, and hence the error
[10:22] <eyequeue> holycow, ah true, the great complaint department of the internet, filed :)
[10:22] <shaantan1> anybody else ?? plz help me ... I ran out of space on my root partition .. what cud be done ...I have uninstalled all useless packs. I have 10 GB free space on my system. Can it be used
[10:22] <_tcc> CalJohn, ah alright
[10:22] <holycow> plenty of people besides me hate zope
[10:22] <sethk> shaantan1, sure.
[10:22] <sethk> shaantan1, 10 gigs is a lot
[10:22] <shaantan1> sethk : how can I use that
[10:22] <CalJohn> _tcc: sorry I can't help more.  is it some kind of webcam stream?
[10:22] <eyequeue> shaantan1, it might squeak by with 10 gb, unless you're into grabbing huge videos
[10:22] <eyequeue> shaantan1, but apt-get clean regularly and such
[10:23] <jkleinhans> what does link quality:0 mean on a iwconfig result on ubuntu platform?
[10:23] <shaantan1> my root is only 4.5 GB
[10:23] <lordhelmet> i need ldap users logging into ubuntu clients to be part of group 'plugdev'. is there anyway to do it on the clients without messing with ldap?
[10:23] <_tcc> CalJohn, it
[10:23] <eyequeue> holycow, i rejected it based upon space intially, now i may have more space
[10:23] <shaantan1> sethk: how to integrate that free space on my ubuntu
[10:23] <CalJohn> _tcc: the version of mplayer in ubuntu must be very old.  pre7try2 is over a year old.  the situation could have changed
[10:23] <JoseStefan> how can i make my x errors prettier, "when" i do get an X error, it shows up as partially garbled text, like if it was using an unsupported charset
[10:24] <_tcc> CalJohn, let me try all the players i'll see if one works on those
[10:24] <eyequeue> shaantan1, you'll probably manage, but i have some advice for the future
[10:24] <shaantan1> sethk : I was also planning on VMware for my windows XP. So I guess I need to have space
[10:24] <_tcc> CalJohn, the one i have here really is an avi
[10:24] <_tcc> it seems to play fine
[10:24] <shaantan1> eyequeue: thats k , thanx
[10:24] <sethk> shaantan1, do you mean you have 10 gigs on another partition available?
[10:24] <Jimmey> Hey again.
[10:24] <shaantan1> ya
[10:24] <Jimmey> My Windows 98 box can ping my Laptop, and vice versa
[10:24] <lordhelmet> anybody? add ldap users to group?
[10:24] <Jimmey> But my 98 box can't see past my laptop.
[10:24] <CalJohn> _tcc: not all avi's are equal.  avi is just a container format for video and audio streams.  if the stream isn't supported, it can't be played :(
[10:24] <Jimmey> I've tried pinging google's IP
[10:25] <eyequeue> shaantan1, unless /home is on a separate partition, start backing it up to media, because you won't have room for a dist-upgrade to the edgy release, you'll be stuck doing a fresh install
[10:25] <_tcc> CalJohn, ahhh, I'm not a format master.
[10:25] <xepher> anyone know of a program to connect to a razr v3 under linux?
[10:25] <sethk> shaantan1, I would probably put an ext3 file system on that 10 gig, and copy the /usr tree to it, then delete the current /usr tree, and mount the partition as /usr
[10:25] <shaantan1> nothing to do wid /home
[10:25] <shaantan1> ??
[10:25] <sethk> shaantan1, you can move /home there also
[10:25] <eyequeue> sethk, oddly enough, i gave him that advice (and details) earlier, heh
[10:25] <shaantan1> eyequeue: what do u suggest
[10:26] <CalJohn> _tcc: yeah, it can be pretty confusing I imagine :)
[10:26] <xepher> moto4lin, got it
[10:26] <sethk> eyequeue, smart man  :)
[10:26] <eyequeue> shaantan1, well, i just meant you'll lose everything if you reinstall ... what i suggest is this ... "sudo du -hcs /" and see which of those main dirs has the most under it
[10:26] <depi> hi. is it possible to set in XGL to switch windows in backwards? because alt+tab + shift doesnt works
[10:26] <exarkun> There are a bunch of -dbg packages which install libraries into /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/.  Does ubuntu do something special to use these automatically or am I supposed to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[10:27] <shaantan1> eyequeue :k
[10:27] <eyequeue> shaantan1, then move one of them to the 10 gig partition, and reboot with that being mounted there
[10:27] <sethk> exarkun, either that or play with ld.so.conf
[10:27] <JoseStefan> How can I make my X errors prettier? "when" i do get an X error, it shows up as partially garbled text (like if it was using an unsupported charset)
[10:27] <shaantan1> temme is this of any help : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[10:27] <DrAk0> anyone running photoshop on ubuntu?
[10:27] <sethk> JoseStefan, that sounds like you have some internationalization files out of sync
[10:27] <eyequeue> shaantan1, then you can rm -rf /oldusr or whatever it is, after you check that the new one works well
[10:27] <Bass> where is a good xgl/compiz guide?
[10:27] <JackMacOKC|Away> DrAk0: you mean gimpshop?
[10:28] <sethk> DrAk0, it doesn't run.  unless you mean running it under wine or something like that
[10:28] <JoseStefan> sethk, How would i fix that?
[10:28] <shaantan1> eyequeue : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[10:28] <exarkun> Oof.
[10:28] <DrAk0> JackMacOKC, i meant phptoshop but gimpshop would be useful in case i cant make PS run
[10:28] <exarkun> I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the program segfaults immediately :(
[10:28] <eyequeue> shaantan1, let me see if i can fetch those first couple lines i wrpte you earlier
[10:28] <JackMacOKC> DrAk0: yeah, gimpshop isnt bad
[10:28] <tarbomb> eyequeue :k
[10:28] <CalJohn> JackMacOKC: GIMP is better
[10:28] <eyequeue> shaantan1, make a partition, mount it on /dummy, cp everything from /usr/ to /dummy, and tell fstab that the "dummy" is to be mounted on /usr, then mv /usr to /usrold and reboot
[10:28] <CalJohn> JackMacOKC: ;)
[10:29] <JoseStefan> sethk, garbled text is basicly part of the dialog box's borders, the msgs are readable
[10:29] <tarbomb> eyequeue:ok
[10:29] <sethk> JoseStefan, not sure what's going on there, then
[10:29] <DrAk0> JackMacOKC, you have it running?
[10:29] <eyequeue> tarbomb, let me check out that url you pasted too
[10:29] <tarbomb> k
[10:30] <JoseStefan> brb
[10:30] <eyequeue> tarbomb, that is a nice tutorial, you can of course do it for /usr or /var or whatever is bog on your system
[10:31] <eyequeue> tarbomb, big
[10:31] <tarbomb> ok
[10:31] <JackMacOKC> CalJohn: i don't think so, personally
[10:31] <Jimmey> I have two enabled internet interfaces, ra0 and eth0. I'm trying to ping my router, which I'm connected to, as you can see this message, but getting no response, which I assume is because it's pinging using eth0 instead of ra0. How can I ping from ra0, specifically?
[10:31] <exarkun> Also, half the time, in vncviewer, my arrow keys don't work.  What's up with that?
[10:31] <eyequeue> tarbomb, /etc and /bin and /sbin and /lib and /root are not good to move though
[10:32] <lupine_85> Jimmey: you shouldn't need to
[10:32] <lupine_85> check your routes
[10:32] <JackMacOKC> CalJohn: the only thing better about gimpshop is the price, but its comparable, so i use it.
[10:32] <lupine_85> (ip route show)
[10:32] <Jimmey> lupine_85, how
[10:32] <lupine_85> run ip route show
[10:32] <eyequeue> tarbomb, nor /boot
[10:32] <Aproxima> FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[10:32] <Jimmey> lupine_85, right
[10:32] <tarbomb> ok
[10:32] <bbrazil> Jimmey: man ping, answer should be there
[10:32] <JackMacOKC> alrighty then
[10:32] <foo> What's the name of the program that allows me to select options when I am installing packages via apt? I get a bunch of garbage on the screen.
[10:32] <Jimmey> lupine_85, it's listing eth0 above ra0
[10:33] <lupine_85> that's fine. is the IP address range for your router assigned to ra0?
[10:33] <bbrazil> foo: debconf?
[10:33] <eyequeue> tarbomb, (the boot process needs to be able to find certain things before other paritions are mounted, so they need to be on the / partition)
[10:33] <foo> bbrazil: Yeah, it's borked. Any ideas?
[10:33] <tarbomb> eyequeue : if I move my /home ... do my new softwares get installed on the new disk ??
[10:33] <Jimmey> lupine_85, yeah, and I'm connected to it fine
[10:33] <bbrazil> foo: dpkg-reconfigure --pending
[10:33] <lupine_85> ok, and where does the 'default' route go to?
[10:33] <lupine_85> eth0 or ra0?
[10:33] <eyequeue> tarbomb, your softwares are mostly under /usr and /var, a tiny bit of them under /etc
[10:33] <Jimmey> ra0
[10:33] <bbrazil> foo: might work, might not
[10:33] <Jimmey> :-S
[10:33] <foo> # dpkg-reconfigure --pending
[10:33] <foo> Unknown option: p
[10:34] <foo> bbrazil: ^^ hmm
[10:34] <tarbomb> can I move them ??
[10:34] <tarbomb> eyequeue :
[10:34] <eyequeue> tarbomb, /home is just your personal files and per-user configuration files for your software
[10:34] <bbrazil> foo: there's some command like that
[10:34] <foo> hmm
[10:34] <eyequeue> tarbomb, you can move /usr and /var, but not /etc
[10:34] <knapper> Is there any other way of using Flash 9 besides wine + windows firefox?
[10:34] <tarbomb> k
[10:34] <lupine_85>  jimmey: ok, so it's not a problem with where the packets are going
[10:34] <bbrazil> foo: dpkg --configure --pending
[10:35] <tarbomb> moving /usr wont screw up my existing installations ??
[10:35] <lupine_85> either they're not being received, or they're not being answered
[10:35] <tarbomb> eyequeue ?
[10:35] <JackMacOKC> knapper: not that i'm aware of
[10:35] <eyequeue> tarbomb, run du first to see how much you'll free up, you probably only need /usr to move
[10:35] <lupine_85> are you using the native driver, or ndiswrapper?
[10:35] <tarbomb> k
[10:35] <bbrazil> foo: that'll fix it if it's the local or termcap that happens to be messed up
[10:35] <tarbomb> whats the command ??
[10:35] <lupine_85> Or did it just set itself up automatically?
[10:35] <knapper> Yeah, thats what I was affraid of
[10:35] <bbrazil> foo: assuming that it just needs to be finished configuring
[10:35] <knapper> when I start wine + firefox my screen goes completely black
[10:35] <eyequeue> tarbomb, sudo du -hcs /*
[10:35] <Lard-O-Lad> is Ship-It really free?
[10:35] <bbrazil> Lard-O-Lad: yes
[10:35] <bluefox83> is there an alsa configuration tool anywhere? for some reason one of my speakers is suddenly not getting any sound...
[10:35] <Jimmey> lupine_85, but ever since I enabled eth0, which is connected to my Windows 98 box, I've only been able to ping the box, and not the router, nor anything else
[10:35] <tuxtux> reboot
[10:36] <Lard-O-Lad> bbrazil, no strings attached?
[10:36] <lupine_85> so you're connected to the router, through the windows 98 box?
[10:36] <Jimmey> lupine_85, if I disable eth0, it works fine
[10:36] <tarbomb> eyequeue : its checking
[10:36] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I have my laptop connected to the router via ra0. It's then connected to the 98 box via eth0, because I'm trying to share the connection
[10:36] <Bassetts> how do i install ATI drivers?
[10:36] <lupine_85> got you.
[10:37] <Jimmey> But when I enable eth0 so I can ping the 98 box, I can't ping anything else.
[10:37] <eyequeue> tarbomb, it's looking at every file on your box, it may take a bot
[10:37] <tarbomb> k
[10:37] <eyequeue> tarbomb, bit
[10:37] <lupine_85> Okay, did you put eth0 in a different subnet to ra0?
[10:38] <Jimmey> lupine_85, nope
[10:38] <lupine_85> that's your problem then
[10:38] <tarbomb> eyequeue : meanwhile cud u suggest me something for my sound problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21572
[10:38] <Jimmey> lupine_85, thanks.
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[10:38] <lupine_85> what IP range are you using atm?
[10:38] <bbrazil> Lard-O-Lad: nope, although they can take a while to deliver
[10:39] <kling0n_> lupine,Jimney it might be jimneys default route
[10:39] <meisam> guys how can i have admininstrative pallestine
[10:39] <lupine_85> already checked it
[10:39] <Jimmey> lupine_85, how do I change the subnet mask?
[10:39] <Jimmey> For eth0
[10:39] <Lard-O-Lad> bbrazil, cool thanks
[10:39] <kling0n_> got it :)
[10:39] <meone> can someone help me with a slow network problem?
[10:39] <kling0n_> meone: sign up for ADSL? :) whats the issue?
[10:39] <meisam> hello
[10:39] <Jimmey> lupine_85, would the solution be to set the 98 box's netmask to 244.244.244.0, and eth0's subnet mask to the same?
[10:39] <lupine_85> you need to put it in a different range. What range are you using for ra0? (e.g. what is the ip address you've for assigned to it?)
[10:40] <lupine_85> no, you don't want to do that
[10:40] <tarbomb> eyequeue : ya its done , and yes /usr is taking up the max amt of space in my sys
[10:40] <lupine_85> a subnet mask is used to determine what network a machine is in
[10:40] <meone> i've been using linux for a lil while now and havent had any issues w/my NIC before.  any distro i use i get ~20Mb/s (on cable internet) but in windows i get ~500Mb/s
[10:40] <rpn_> hi people, i got a problem, always when i play a flashvideo (firefox), after ~10sec ther is a asynchronism (sorry for my english) :D
[10:40] <eyequeue> tarbomb, subtact that  wmount from the / total, will moving just that be enough?
[10:40] <Jimmey> lupine_85, ra0's IP is 192.168.1.199, eth0's is 192.168.1.101
[10:40] <eyequeue> amount
[10:40] <lupine_85> OK. The subnet mask for that one will be 255.255.255.0 ?
[10:41] <kling0n_> meone 500MB/s ?
[10:41] <tarbomb> that will be enuff ..
[10:41] <Jimmey> lupine_85, for ra0, yeah
[10:41] <kling0n_> from where?
[10:41] <tarbomb> will yeild me 3 gigs
[10:41] <foo> bbrazil: hm, that returned nothing. Maybe it fixed it. hm, thanks if it did
[10:41] <lupine_85> Change it to addresses in 192.168.0.*
[10:41] <meone> ethtool reports eth0 is at 10Mb/s but windows reports 100Mb/s
[10:41] <eyequeue> tarbomb, follow that tutorial you pasted to me, substituting /usr for /home of course
[10:41] <lupine_85> Keep the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0
[10:41] <Jimmey> lupine_85, for eth0?
[10:41] <tarbomb> eyequeue: but I wanna install vmware as well , and it told me to have 8 gigs free approx
[10:41] <lupine_85> no, for ra0
[10:41] <geokok> hi. I updated today xserver 1.0.4 (was not affected by 1.0.3 problem) and some time later while using firefox the laptop monitor turned off completely. It was back on after restart. Any ideas?
[10:41] <kling0n_> meone might be your NIC driver
[10:42] <kling0n_> meone what is the output of ifconfig?
[10:42] <lupine_85>  erm, sorry. Yes for eth0 !!!
[10:42] <tarbomb> eyequeue : moving that wont hurt my existing installs naa
[10:42] <meone> havent had any prob's before, using fealnx on MYSON NIC
[10:42] <rpn_> hi people, i got a problem, always when i play a flashvideo (firefox), after ~10sec ther is a asynchronism (sorry for my english) :D
[10:42] <eyequeue> tarbomb, i don't know that app, but it most likely uses a lot of /usr
[10:42] <lupine_85> d'oh
[10:42] <bbrazil> foo: really it sounds like you just need to run 'reset'
[10:42] <tarbomb> eyequeue : I believe that my future installs will bein the new partition then
[10:42] <eyequeue> tarbomb, no, if you follow that tutorial, it will safely get you set up
[10:42] <foo> bbrazil: er, why didn't I think of that. Thanks.
[10:43] <bbrazil> foo: no problem
[10:43] <tarbomb> all my future installs will be in the new /usr/bin I hope
[10:43] <tarbomb> eyequeue
[10:43] <meone> # ifconfig eth0
[10:43] <meone> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2A:C0:96:43
[10:43] <meone> inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:43] <meone> inet6 addr: fe80::202:2aff:fec0:9643/64 Scope:Link
[10:43] <meone> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[10:43] <meone> RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:43] <meone> TX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[10:43] <meone> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[10:43] <meone> RX bytes:2421 (2.3 KiB) TX bytes:2070 (2.0 KiB)
[10:43] <meone> Interrupt:11 Base address:0xb400
[10:43] <richiefrich> spamm
[10:43] <lupine_85> what you're doing is putting the windows pc and eth0 interface into a different network, so that routing can work properly
[10:43] <tarbomb> !pastebin > meone
[10:43] <kling0n_> sorry about that :)
[10:43] <meone> sorry
[10:43] <eyequeue> tarbomb, ehrn you do a fresh install of edgy in a few months, first do a du and see what YOUR usage patterns are, then consider making separate partitions (with a pit fo "room to grow: of course)
[10:43] <richiefrich> dude meone pastebin
[10:44] <lupine_85> What you'll also need to do, to get internet for the Windows 98 PC, is enable IP forwarding on the linux box
[10:44] <tarbomb> eyequeeu : k
[10:44] <bbrazil> meone: windows does some unfair stuff on packets, but nothing to explain a 12.5 times difference
[10:44] <eyequeue> argh, typo city there
[10:44] <geokok> ok....another question. I installed beagle but skipped the part that says to activate "extended attributes". It works fine. Am I missing something?
[10:44] <lupine_85> so that it knows that it's allowed to pass the packets back and forth
[10:44] <Jimmey> lupine_85, so I change eth0's IP to 192.168.0.x
[10:44] <richiefrich> tarbomb u know on your howto.. u could add --> rsync -av
[10:44] <tarbomb> eyequeue : :)
[10:44] <meone> mii-tool reports eth0: 10Mbit, half dupflex, no link
[10:44] <lupine_85> Yes - replace x with an appropriate number
[10:45] <tarbomb> steve : huh ??
[10:45] <meone> no link? i dont get it
[10:45] <bbrazil> meone: that isn't even conected. Try ethtool
[10:45] <lupine_85> I always use 1 for the router (which will be your linux box in this case)
[10:45] <eyequeue> tarbomb, and i'm no help on that sound, sorry
[10:45] <richiefrich> tarbomb  --> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  <-- thats yours ?
[10:45] <Jimmey> lupine_85, it's not letting me delete the 1 from the third set
[10:45] <tarbomb> steve : ya
[10:45] <tarbomb> eyequeue : no prob
[10:45] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:45] <meone> ethtool: Link Detected: NO, but i can ping and browse web
[10:45] <JoseStefan> back
[10:45] <richiefrich> tarbomb did u try them other tools ?
[10:45] <npodges> sometimes, my wireless doesnt connect, and i have to restart my computer for it to work again.. any way to make it restart without rebooting?
[10:46] <chris__> Hello
[10:46] <abaddon> richiefrich okay I installed cygwin and tried to mess around and then tried another approach and didn't get very far what do I do now?
[10:46] <lupine_85>  Jimmey: run ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1
[10:46] <tarbomb> nope
[10:46] <lupine_85> erm, as root
[10:46] <Jimmey> lupine_85, ahh.
[10:46] <lupine_85> so sudo
[10:46] <Jimmey> We're getting somewhere
[10:46] <chris__> How do I find out what graphics card my computer has?
[10:46] <npodges> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't do it
[10:46] <bbrazil> meone: please pastebin output of ifconfig -a and route -n
[10:46] <synic> chris__: lspci
[10:46] <chris__> I know I can do it through a terminal, but how
[10:46] <meone> !pastebin
[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:46] <ubunewb> help!!  I am in class, and am having a problem    I edited the apt.config file to work with proxy, now no more proxy, what are the default contents of the file??
[10:46] <eyequeue> richiefrich, yes, i love rsync, especially it's ability to start in the middle of a previously-aborted run
[10:46] <bbrazil> ubunewb: empty
[10:47] <Bassetts> i just tried to install ATI drivers but i did fglrxinfo and got Mesa GLX Indirect, thats not right is it?
[10:47] <ubunewb> to clarify, when i said "now no more proxy" I mean I am in a location that is not behind the proxy.
[10:47] <richiefrich> eyequeue well to move a partiton isnt hard i think rsync is the best..  it save the permissions
[10:47] <meone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21578
[10:47] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I've set eth0's default gateway to the IP address of the Windows box. Sound right?
[10:47] <richiefrich> abaddon see if u can find a howto on installing ubuntu in a chroot
[10:47] <sioux> hi
[10:47] <eyequeue> ubunewb, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* seems to be dapper's default
[10:48] <lupine_85> Jimmey: no :(
[10:48] <abaddon> kay
[10:48] <lupine_85> What you want is:
[10:48] <geokok> why aren't the extended attributes activated by default?
[10:48] <chris__> How do I find out what graphics card my system has?
[10:48] <tarbomb> eyequeue : so u suggest I go ahead and follow that tut for /usr
[10:48] <bbrazil> chris__: lspci, or open it up
[10:48] <lupine_85> on the windows 98 box, the default gateway should be the linux machine's address for eth0
[10:48] <eyequeue> richiefrich, cp -a will too, but that restart would be from the beginning with cp :(
[10:48] <Jimmey> chris__, where did you buy the system? Who made it? What model?
[10:48] <Jimmey> lupine_85, yep
[10:48] <synic> chris__: lspci
[10:48] <synic> chris__: lspci
[10:48] <synic> chris__: lspci
[10:48] <eyequeue> tarbomb, yes, it will be your safest bet i think
[10:48] <azureal> hi...is there an easy way to find a network printer?
[10:48] <BSG75> hi, anyone here got ndiswrapper-utils working with Dapper?
[10:48] <richiefrich> eyequeue rsync is faster imo
[10:48] <tarbomb> eyequeue : I did a du , and what m i lookin at ??
[10:49] <azureal> rather, a commandline or small-gui easy way
[10:49] <chris__> Thanks
[10:49] <lupine_85> on the linux box, it should have any address on eth0; the default gateway should be the router (because that's where it sends traffic when it doesn't know what to do with it)
[10:49] <eyequeue> du (1)               - estimate file space usage
[10:49] <kling0n_> BSG75 yea
[10:49] <eyequeue> du (1posix)          - estimate file space usage
[10:49] <Flamekebab> what exactly does Ctrl Alt Backspace do?
[10:49] <kling0n_> du -h is your friend
[10:49] <eyequeue> tarbomb, ^
[10:49] <richiefrich> Flamekebab exits X
[10:49] <azureal> chris__, you might want to grep something with lspci
[10:49] <azureal> like lspci | grep raphics
[10:49] <lupine_85> When you set up the netmask for eth0, it "knows" to send any traffic destined to any addresses within that IP address/netmask combination to eth0
[10:49] <tarbomb> eyequeue : k i m getting too confused .. i think i will just follow the tut
[10:49] <bbrazil> meone: also, that network card is only 100Mbit
[10:49] <Flamekebab> richiefrich, does it kill any open programs?
[10:49] <tarbomb> eyequeue:
[10:49] <richiefrich> Flamekebab yes
[10:49] <geokok> what advantages/disadvantages do extended attributes have?
[10:50] <richiefrich> Flamekebab  u exit X
[10:50] <eyequeue> tarbomb, du just told you that yes usr is your wise move
[10:50] <richiefrich> and X apps die
[10:50] <Flamekebab> okays
[10:50] <BSG75> kling0n_: how did you get it to show up as wlan0 .. mine keeps coming up as eth0 as it was with bcm43xx only the bcm driver doesn't have the firmwire file .. and
[10:50] <Flamekebab> just wanted to be clear
[10:50] <sioux> hi ubuntus I have a problem with dma. It won't work DVDs I followed this guide and the modules pIIx and ide-cd are ok. any ideas?
[10:50] <tarbomb> yequeeu :;) thanx
[10:50] <eyequeue> tarbomb, mp
[10:50] <eyequeue> tarbomb, np
[10:50] <richiefrich> Flamekebab for any X apps
[10:50] <sioux> this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:50] <BSG75> when I use iwconfig to config eth0 I can change everything but essid .. using ndiswrapper
[10:50] <lupine_85> when the windows 98 box sends a packet to the network, it will be handled by your linux box. Unless it's destined *for* the linux box, it'll end up being sent to the default gateway...
[10:51] <hellokthulu> Hey -- can anything be done about a Repository getting the "Sub-process gzip returned an error code" error?
[10:51] <lupine_85> ...which really shouldn't be the Windows 98 box ;)
[10:51] <richiefrich> Flamekebab now if u are using 'screen'  and running a cmd in that, that doesnt rely on X then it wont die
[10:51] <overshard> just a quick question... whats the craze over ubuntu?... maybe its just me but I don't seem to like it as much as fedora or gentoo or is it just a simpler linux distro for normal users?
[10:51] <Jimmey> lupine_85, how's this. The eth0's IP address is 192.168.0.1, it's default gateway is the router's address, and the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[10:51] <bbrazil> hellokthulu: try a differnt repo
[10:51] <richiefrich> tarbomb did u try them other apps
[10:51] <meone> bbrazil: sorry i meant Kb/s
[10:51] <kling0n_> BSG75 you did load a driver into ndiswrapper tight?
[10:51] <lupine_85> that's right
[10:51] <hellokthulu> bbrazil: Thanks, but this seems to be the only one...
[10:51] <kling0n_> right even?
[10:51] <anthony_> how can I gain write priviledges of a folder, when I am not the "owner"?
[10:51] <JoseStefan> How can I make my X errors not show up with garbled text? (like if it was using an unsupported charset)
[10:52] <Flamekebab> anthony_, is that you, dude?
[10:52] <BSG75> kling0n_: yup .. ndiswrapper -l shows it loaded correctly .. so does dmesg
[10:52] <anthony_> haha it is indeed
[10:52] <chris__> OO
[10:52] <chris__> hellow
[10:52] <Flamekebab> heh
[10:52] <anthony_> got the resolution sortred out
[10:52] <Jimmey> lupine_85, right. Now I can ping my Linux box from the Windows one, and I can ping everything from my Linux box.
[10:52] <Jack_Sparrow> anthony_:  gksudo nautilus right click on folder
[10:52] <overshard> anthony_: change the permisions chmod -r 777 (folder)
[10:52] <Flamekebab> and chris__?
[10:52] <bbrazil> meone: what are you using in ubuntu when getting those speeds?  Firefox?
[10:52] <justin_> JoseStefan: Modify your xorg.conf
[10:52] <chris__> yeah
[10:52] <chris__> hI
[10:52] <lupine_85> now we need to enable ip forwarding
[10:52] <lupine_85> 1 second while I get the command
[10:52] <Flamekebab> such a small world
[10:52] <Jimmey> Control Panel, here I come
[10:52] <chris__> indeed
[10:52] <Flamekebab> I'm screwing around with AIGLX
[10:52] <JoseStefan> justin_: what exactly would i be looking for?
[10:52] <Flamekebab> prettyness
[10:53] <chris__> I don't know what graphics my computer has,
[10:53] <BSG75> WOOT ... fuck me .. I don't know hwat I did .. but now I can change essid with my ndiswrapper
[10:53] <bbrazil> !language
[10:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:53] <kling0n_> BSG75 iwconfig lists the interface as a wireless interface right?
[10:53] <BSG75> sorry .. for the language .. me got excited
[10:53] <npodges> can someone tell me briefly the difference between AIGLX and XGL
[10:53] <chris__> I did lspci and it hasn't cleared anything up
[10:53] <meone> bbrazil: Firefox, Speakeasy.net/speedtest..only get it in windows.  Linux everything is slow now, but it never was before
[10:53] <Jimmey> lupine_85, thanks for you help, I really appreciate it.
[10:53] <BSG75> been at it since last night
[10:53] <kling0n_> BSG75 I can recommend using the gnome-network-manager applet
[10:53] <anthony_> Flamkebab, no idea
[10:53] <kling0n_> works very well on laptops
[10:53] <BSG75> crap .. :(
[10:53] <sioux> ubuntu dma won't work I followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA and the module ide-cd is correctly loaded by the kernel and associated to cdrom. an help is appreciated :-)
[10:53] <bbrazil> meone: is that some java/flash test tool?
[10:53] <lupine_85> np. network configuration can be a git ;)
[10:53] <sethk> chris__, paste the lspci output to the paste bot
[10:54] <chris__> to the what bot?
[10:54] <meone> bbrazil: yes
[10:54] <bbrazil> meone: for a proper test, try downloading an ISO from a fast mirror
[10:54] <mikeymike-linux> does anyone know why my alsa mixer wont affect my audigy 2 platinum aux2 levels or any other inputs for that matter includiing microphone? i want my aux2 to come through but its not.. can anyone help? it used to if im not mistaken...
[10:54] <kling0n_> only you need to comment out the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and restart dbus to make it work
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[10:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:54] <bbrazil> meone: java/flash isn't the best on linux
[10:54] <BSG75> it loaded back the back the bcm43xx driver :(
[10:54] <phreakys> found something to have multiple wallpapers in gnome => wallpapoz
[10:54] <sethk> chris__, paste.  see the channel topic
[10:54] <meone> brazil: even downloading portage and stages off gentoo mirrors
[10:54] <DBO> !language BSG75
[10:54] <lupine_85> ok, run 'sudo echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language BSG75 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <DBO> !language > BSG75
[10:54] <chris__> what?
[10:54] <phreakys> http://wallpapoz.sourceforge.net/download.html
[10:54] <Jimmey> lupine_85, okay
[10:54] <phreakys> dont know if its any good
[10:54] <chris__> I've been using this for a day,
[10:54] <tarbomb> !language
[10:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:54] <azureal> hi, anyone have experience adding a network printer through cli?
[10:54] <kling0n_> BSG75 theres a way to make the module forbidden
[10:54] <chris__> you'll have to be more specific
[10:54] <meone> using wget
[10:54] <kling0n_> hang on
[10:54] <Jimmey> lupine_85, what will that do?
[10:55] <bbrazil> meone: that's more interesting
[10:55] <anthony_> overshard "operations not permitted" any ideas?
[10:55] <BSG75> put in blacklist?
[10:55] <mikeymike-linux> i can record auxiliary 2 but it wont playback live through the speakers...... how do i unmute the playback mixer for auxilary 2?
[10:55] <lupine_85> that will tell your linux computer it's OK to forward packets from the windows 98 computer
[10:55] <bbrazil> meone: you compared like with like on windows?
[10:55] <cjones> richiefrich i love centericq
[10:55] <lupine_85> by default, if it receives a packet not addressed to it, it will drop it
[10:55] <meone> bbrazil: thats how this whole thing started, doing a net install of gentoo.  Then tired every other distro live cd
[10:55] <richiefrich> cjones kowls
[10:55] <kling0n_> BSG75 put a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ which contains 'blacklist <nameofmodule>'
[10:55] <Jimmey> lupine_85, it's denying me permission, even with sudo.
[10:55] <kling0n_> yup
[10:55] <Jimmey> sudo -i.
[10:55] <meone> yes no problems in windows
[10:55] <lupine_85> ok, try 'sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding'
[10:55] <sethk> !paste > chris__
[10:56] <JoseStefan> When i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (shows on dialog borders)
[10:56] <cjones> richiefrich were you the one telling me about the mpeg321 player?
[10:56] <richiefrich> cjones might be
[10:56] <bbrazil> meone: same IP in windows/linux?
[10:56] <meone> bbrazil: yup
[10:56] <richiefrich> cjones i think i said madplay too
[10:56] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I did sudo -i, then echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding, which didn't return any errors
[10:56] <meone> bbrazil: even bypassed my router and went direct to cable modem
[10:56] <Jimmey> Sound okay?
[10:56] <lupine_85> ok, you're done then
[10:57] <lupine_85> run "cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/forwarding" and see if it says "1"
[10:57] <milkyway> hi there, any apache diehards inhere ?
[10:57] <chris__> chris@chris-laptop:~$ lspci
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:03.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556B CardBus [Tornado]  (rev 20)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:03.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 20)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[10:57] <bbrazil> meone: right. here's me guess: Windows set's the "low-latency" flag on all packets it send out. This causes most routers to give it priority. Linux on the other hand doesn't do this
[10:57] <richiefrich> spamm
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[10:57] <kling0n_> ack
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
[10:57] <lupine_85> !pastebin > chris__
[10:57] <richiefrich> !pastebin > chris__
[10:57] <chris__> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)chris@chris-laptop:~$
[10:57] <chris__> sorry
[10:57] <lmosher> There's a really weird deep sound coming from my sound card every time I move a window. WTF is that and how can I stop it?
[10:57] <richiefrich> lupine_85 u win
[10:57] <Jimmey> lupine_85, it says "1"
[10:57] <chris__> haha, sorry Ihaven't got a clue what you are talking about
[10:57] <npodges> sudo apt-get install webboard, chris_
[10:57] <chris__> what the crap is a paste bin?
[10:58] <meone> bbrazil: using ethtool i cant even set the NIC to 100Mb/s full duplex
[10:58] <mechmg93> can anyone inform me about the iptables rules i need for an active ftp server?
[10:58] <JoseStefan> !paste
[10:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:58] <tarbomb> !language > chris_
[10:58] <lupine_85> ok :)
[10:58] <sethk> chris__, I sent you the paste bot instructions.  Plus, you have S3, so what's the problem?
[10:58] <bbrazil> meone: odd, what sort of NIC?
[10:58] <meone> bbrazil: makes no changes and always states no link or Link dectected: no
[10:58] <lupine_85> now youi should be able to ping anywhere from the windows 98 machine
[10:58] <tarbomb> !language > chris
[10:58] <chris__> language? English... I think
[10:58] <lupine_85> but! make sure that the DNS server is set to the router address
[10:58] <meone> bbrazil: 0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: MYSON Technology Inc SURECOM EP-320X-S 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter
[10:58] <tarbomb> !language
[10:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:59] <lupine_85> *not* the linux machine's address
[10:59] <meone> bbrazil: i think its crapping out and only linux is showing it
[10:59] <bbrazil> meone: I'm going to guess Linux support for that card is lacking, but at the speeds you're at 10Mb/s half duplex should be sufficent anyway
[10:59] <Jimmey> lupine_85, ahh.
[10:59] <chris__> I think this is family friendly language, It just depends what sort of family. Also I only said crap
[10:59] <Jimmey> lupine_85, the DNS address for what
[10:59] <BSG75> klingon_: do u have have wlan0?
[10:59] <Jimmey> eth0, or the Windows box
[10:59] <npodges> chris_ not worth arguing
[10:59] <lupine_85> the windows box
[10:59] <Aagni> whats webboard?
[11:00] <bbrazil> meone: check dmesg, might indicate if there's hadrware problems
[11:00] <npodges> it's an application to paste to pastebin
[11:00] <npodges> sits in the gnome panel
[11:00] <Detox> how do i get wireless nic to work wtih live cd?
[11:00] <bbrazil> meone: also check ifconfig and see if it reports lots of errors
[11:00] <chris__> I wasn't arguing, more commenting. Anyway thanks for your help with the graphics... Anyone know anything about Graphics Tablets?
[11:00] <Jimmey> lupine_85, you're a genius
[11:00] <meone> bbrazil: tried that eth0: 100/10M Ethernet PCI Adapter at 0xb400, 00:02:2A:C0:96:43, IRQ 11. eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[11:00] <Aagni> npodges: i just installed it
[11:00] <BSG75> Detox: what kind u got?
[11:00] <Aagni> npodges: how do i run it?
[11:00] <lupine_85> of course :)
[11:00] <JoseStefan> When i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (dialog's borders)
[11:00] <meone> bbrazil: those are the last two entries
[11:01] <bbrazil> meone: pretty normal
[11:01] <Detox> microsoft mn510 usb  prisim2
[11:01] <chris__> My graphics tablet doesn't seem to relate to the dimensions of my screen verywell.
[11:01] <ScheissNUssen> Hello, I have a Nintendo 64 controller that has and adapter for it that plugs into my usb port.. I was wonder how I would get it to work on Ubuntu
[11:01] <lupine_85>  final thing: every time you reboot your linux machine, you'll lose the ip forwarding setting
[11:01] <ScheissNUssen> anyone have an suggestions?
[11:01] <chris__> It's almost like you have to re-configure it whilst using it
[11:01] <bbrazil> meone: try 'bing' between localhost and your router
[11:01] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I'll make a script
[11:01] <lupine_85> ok :)
[11:01] <milkyway> anyone familiar with apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 mod_rewrite segmentation faults  ?
[11:01] <meone> bbrazil: speeds are great 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=3.2 ms
[11:01] <lupine_85> stick it in rc1.d (IIRC)
[11:01] <JoseStefan> i use DHCP for my network settings :P
[11:01] <Lard-O-Lad> isnt the power button near the time supposed to be after the time?
[11:02] <bbrazil> meone: bing, not ping
[11:02] <meone> bbrazil: doh...lol
[11:02] <bbrazil> meone: use -s 1000 -S 10000, I find that gets better results
[11:02] <dennda__> is there any program to print images easily? i am having big trouble with the print service of eye of gnome because the images are not printed with the right position and scale on the small photo paper
[11:02] <jpatota> i am told that if i have openldap installed i already have an ldap c sdk
[11:02] <chris__> anyone, Graphics Tablets? I don't know how to set it up properly.  It works, but it's a bit off centre
[11:02] <ScheissNUssen> I have a Nintendo 64 controller that has and adapter for it that plugs into my usb port.. I was wonder how I would get it to work on Ubuntu.. When I plug it in in Windows it auto configures it... Does anoyone have any suggestions for me?
[11:02] <jpatota> where would i find it
[11:03] <Aagni> npodges: i got it, thnks
[11:03] <believer_> As Salaam e laikum (meaning: May Peace b on u) . http://www.submission.org/ ... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[11:03] <believer_> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[11:03] <believer_> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[11:03] <believer_> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[11:03] <believer_> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
[11:03] <synic> oh boy.
[11:03] <believer_> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[11:03] <believer_> http://download.al-islaam.com/audiovideo/anasheedram/al-islaam/html/samtan/lastbreath.swf
[11:03] <bbrazil> !ops
[11:03] <argument> how do i get a list of installed files with dpkg?
[11:03] <synic> dpkg -l
[11:03] <argument> e.g. like clicking "properties" in synaptic
[11:03] <JoseStefan> !tell believer_ about paste
[11:03] <anthony_> Jack_Sparrow: thanks. just understood!
[11:03] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I'm getting a DNS problem, now
[11:04] <Jimmey> I can ping google's IP from the Windows box
[11:04] <kling0n_> BGS75 check query window :)
[11:04] <DBO> bbrazil?
[11:04] <Jimmey> But pinging google.com doesn't work
[11:04] <chris__> anthony_ is a love bunny
[11:04] <bbrazil> DBO: beleiver
[11:04] <ScheissNUssen> haha
[11:04] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:04] <ScheissNUssen> someone PWN the believer
[11:04] <bbrazil> DBO: thanks
[11:04] <lupine_85>  Jimmey: did you set up the dns server on the windows 98 machine
[11:04] <DBO> bbrazil, the way the truth and the ban =)
[11:04] <Jimmey> lupine_85, as my router, yep
[11:04] <Flamekebab> the only thing I'm a believer in is open source, heh
[11:05] <chris__> can anyone help with an offset graphics tablet?
[11:05] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I mean the DNS for the Windows machine is my router.
[11:05] <lupine_85> did you restart it?
[11:05] <IndyBC> Ubuntu users don't like debian at all?
[11:05] <Jimmey> Yep
[11:05] <lupine_85> (the win98 box)
[11:05] <Flamekebab> riight..
[11:05] <synic> IndyBC: um... I love debian
[11:05] <lupine_85> Hmm. Try giving it the address that your router uses, then
[11:05] <Jimmey> lupine_85, it made me :(
[11:05] <Flamekebab> chris__, anthony_ , what happened there?
[11:05] <bluefox83> apt timestamp issues..how do i fix it?
[11:05] <chris__> eh?
[11:05] <Jimmey> lupine_85, okay
[11:06] <IndyBC> synic: oh, ok :)
[11:06] <bluefox83> something about moving my time forward..s'all i remember
[11:06] <chris__> you left, and came back
[11:06] <chris__> anyone know anything about offset graphics tablets?
[11:06] <JoseStefan> When i "do" get an X error, How could I avoid it from showing garbled text? (dialog's borders)
[11:06] <anthony_> flamekebab: what happened where sorry?
[11:06] <meone> there a way you can access IRC from the ubuntu live cd?
[11:07] <synic> meone: yes
[11:07] <Seveas> meone, gaim can do irc
[11:07] <Flamekebab> anthony_, someone kicked me..
[11:07] <Jimmey> lupine_85, just restarting now
[11:07] <synic> meone: irssi, gaim, xchat
[11:07] <reddux01> hello
[11:07] <JoseStefan> meone, i think you can install packages on a live environment, but it is tricky
[11:07] <anthony_> flamekebab: I don't /think/ it was me; I pmd you a while back...could that be it?
[11:08] <meone> thanks ill try n be back
[11:08] <bluefox83> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 24 20:28:36 2006    <---how do i fix that?
[11:08] <Cirvin_Fox> Hello, is it possible to use my sony handycam's USB link in ubuntu?
[11:08] <Flamekebab> anthony_, PMing doesn't work on here, IIRC, unless you're registered
[11:08] <reddux01> hello?
[11:08] <dr|zed> hello
[11:08] <reddux01> hey how are you?
[11:09] <dodgyville> Hello
[11:09] <dr|zed> all good.
[11:09] <_tcc> hello
[11:09] <chris__> So.... graphics tablets.... anyone know how to stop one from being gay?
[11:09] <dodgyville> Are their dapper packages  for kernel 2.6.17 ?
[11:09] <dr|zed> speaking of graphics.
[11:09] <dr|zed> http://xaraxtreme.org
[11:09] <anthony_> flamekebab: ah ok.  why when I run nautilus can I edit folders in the File System, but not otherwise?
[11:09] <dodgyville> chris__: What's the prob. I have a tablet...
[11:09] <reddux01> I was wondering if anyone was experiencing timeouts when trying to connect to apache2 on ubuntu dapper drake?
[11:09] <dr|zed> free linux graphical loveliness.
[11:09] <fdsd> ugg usplash sucks
[11:10] <chris__> well, It works, but it's a bit offset
[11:10] <dr|zed> should work nicely under ubuntu with a tablet.
[11:10] <Flamekebab> anthony_, how do you mean, edit folders?
[11:10] <dodgyville> chris__: Sorry, I don't know about that.
[11:10] <anthony_> flamekebab: like, make a new one!
[11:10] <dodgyville> 2.6.17 anyone?
[11:10] <JoseStefan> !info linux-image-386 edgy
[11:10] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.4 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:10] <Flamekebab> erm, what else would you use to make folders?
[11:10] <chris__> as in, when I use it i can go to the edge of the screen on one side, and that'll be the edge of the tab, and then the other edge of the screen will be the middle of the tab
[11:10] <kling0n_> anthony_ sudo mkdir -p /usr/bing ?
[11:10] <anthony_> flamekebab: it has all these crazy priviledges (sp) and stuff
[11:10] <chris__> it's very odd
[11:10] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I still get a DNS error. I can ping the IPs, just not the domain names. Also, when I try to connect to http://google'sIP , I get errors :(
[11:10] <reddux01> I'm running a dell poweredge 1950 with broadcom 100baseTx-FD using bnx2 module
[11:10] <Flannel> bluefox83: sudo -K
[11:10] <Cirvin_Fox> think a sony handycam will work with ubuntu? kinda webcam-like?
[11:11] <warlocky> I wish to make a few files to .zip or .tar.gz, umm. like this: I want all files within /var/www/ to be splited up, ex 1.tar.gz, 2.tar.gz or something familiar to that.
[11:11] <Flannel> bluefox83: do that (on it's own) then try your command again
[11:11] <amonkey> is it possible to run my nvidia tv-out as a seperate screen so that I can run a seperate X session on it?
[11:11] <Flamekebab> anthony_, you should be able to make folders only in your home folder
[11:11] <sethk> Jimmey, try running the host command for a domain
[11:11] <anthony_> flamekeba: oh right!  why?
[11:11] <Flamekebab> unless you've root privileges (ie, by running "sudo nautilus" )
[11:11] <idel> hi, how can I get back grub from a windows reinstallation? I tried with chroot but I get the message /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[11:11] <Jimmey> sethk, you've lost me
[11:11] <Flamekebab> anthony_, what do you mean why?
[11:11] <sethk> Jimmey, in a terminal, type host whatever (host www.yahoo.com, for example) and see what happens
[11:12] <Flamekebab> oh and anthony_, if you didn't know, you can just type the first few letters of my name and hit TAB, it'll complete my name
[11:12] <BSG75> anyone know where the modules are stored?
[11:12] <Jimmey> sethk, the problem's not with my Linux box, it's with a Windows machine
[11:12] <lupine_85> Jimmey: can you ping the DNS server's address?
[11:12] <Flamekebab> save you typing it
[11:12] <wubrgamer> heyg uiys
[11:12] <Jimmey> lupine_85, let me try
[11:12] <mng^> hi, im wondering if theres some way for me to check the network activity. I mean, _if_ and _how_ much data im sending/recieving
[11:12] <lupine_85> oh, d'oh. I know what's wrong
[11:12] <anthony_> flamekebab: well, you see, under /windows/......... :P
[11:12] <sethk> Jimmey, so?
[11:12] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, not on mIRC :(
[11:12] <anthony_> Flamekebab, sweet
[11:12] <wubrgamer> how do i get a .avi to a format an ipod can read ?
[11:12] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, oh nevermind
[11:12] <lupine_85> You need to tell the router about the windows 98 box's subnet
[11:12] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, guess i missed "when" they added that
[11:13] <Flamekebab> JoseStefan, I happen to know that both anthony_ and chris__ are both running Xchat
[11:13] <Flamekebab> and I know it works under xchat
[11:13] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I can ping the DNS server from my Windows box. And how do I do that?
[11:13] <lupine_85> right now, it's sending all the packets destined for it to... yep... the default interface (Internet)
[11:13] <anthony_> JoseStefan, he's right
[11:13] <milkyway> looking for some adive on apache mod_rewrite problem
[11:13] <Jimmey> I can log into my router's HTTP controls
[11:13] <Cirvin_Fox> ok, how do i set up a webcam? the utility i had in hoary isnt avalible for dapper
[11:13] <JoseStefan> Flamekebab, works on mIRC now as well xD
[11:13] <Flamekebab> anthony_, isn't it nice knowing that you can't balls up your filesystem without authenticating first?
[11:13] <chris__> what the...
[11:13] <lupine_85> oh, you can ping the DNS server?
[11:13] <Jimmey> lupine_85, yeah
[11:13] <anthony_> Flamekebab, well, I can still balls it up, only it takes longer.  I will mess it up in the end!
[11:13] <Jimmey> I can ping google's IP, etc
[11:14] <lupine_85> But you can't connect to (say) Google's IP using Internet Explorer?
[11:14] <ke> Hi, I'm an idiot trying to run ubuntu :)
[11:14] <Jimmey> lupine_85, nope
[11:14] <Aagni> ke, hi idiot
[11:14] <CokeNCode> when i apt-get install ... where does the program get installed by default? which folder i mean
[11:14] <sethk> ke, that's interesting but it isn't a question
[11:14] <Jimmey> Oh, wait
[11:14] <CokeNCode> and where can i download a keymap file ?
[11:14] <sethk> CokeNCode, depends on the program
[11:14] <Flannel> CokeNCode: which part of the program?
[11:14] <JoseStefan> CokeNCode, that's defined on a per package basis
[11:14] <Flamekebab> WHO MENTIOND THAT EVIL?!
[11:14] <CokeNCode> oh man ... :S
[11:14] <Jimmey> I tried http://google'sIP, which didn't work. Then I tried just google'sIP, and it's getting somewhere.
[11:14] <Flamekebab> WHO SAID THE IE WORD?!
[11:14] <Flamekebab> hehe
[11:14] <mng^> hi, im wondering if theres some way for me to check the network activity. I mean, _if_ and _how_ much data im sending/recieving
[11:15] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, you have winsock problem
[11:15] <ke> haha, sorry. i was wondering if my computer is supposed to show a blank screen when trying to run a live version of ubuntu? a blank input screen?
[11:15] <Flamekebab> ke, whatcha need help with?
[11:15] <secleinteer> hey, if i install kubuntu on one hdd, and then install windows on another hdd, will that erase grub? or would the hdd with kubuntu have grub, and the other one the windows bootloader?
[11:15] <CokeNCode> mng^, ethereal
[11:15] <sethk> ke, no
[11:15] <JoseStefan> CokeNCode, there is a way to lists the package's files after it has been installed
[11:15] <lupine_85> yes, you shouldn't have the http:// bit :)
[11:15] <lupine_85> ok, so it's a dns resolution problem
[11:15] <CokeNCode> JoseStefan, ok, how do i do that ?
[11:15] <Jimmey> Oh, lupine_85, that didn't work
[11:15] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, Are you using windows right now?
[11:15] <CokeNCode> and where can i find a keymap file
[11:15] <dodgyville> !info linux-image-386 dapper
[11:15] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:15] <JoseStefan> CokeNCode, i forgot :( hold on
[11:15] <lupine_85> oh, ok
[11:15] <Cirvin_Fox> is there a utiliy to install a webcam?
[11:15] <chris__> anthony_, do you want some food?
[11:15] <lupine_85> so still not getting anywhere
[11:15] <secleinteer> anyone know....?
[11:15] <ke> after it says configuring drivers, it shows a black input screen and i don't know what i'm doing wrong and if i'm not doing wrong, what i should do next... i tried typing boot: live but i dont know if that was stupid of me to do so
[11:16] <lupine_85> I think we need to set up a static route on your router
[11:16] <lupine_85> to tell it where the '98 box is
[11:16] <Jimmey> lupine_85, ahh.
[11:16] <mng^> CokeNCode: where do i get that?
[11:16] <Jimmey> lupine_85, can you help me with that
[11:16] <sethk> ke, it appears that it is either misidentifying your video hardware or otherwise confused.  what kind of machine is it?
[11:16] <lupine_85> Possibly :). what router?
[11:16] <CokeNCode> mng^, apt-get install ethereal
[11:16] <dodgyville> JoseStefan: Are the edgy repositories OK to point to instead of dapper?
[11:16] <Jimmey> lupine_85, the beautiful Linksys.
[11:16] <mng^> CokeNCode: Ok, thanks
[11:16] <Jimmey> WAG54G.
[11:16] <Flannel> secleinteer: If you install windows last, grub will be gone.  You'll need to reinstall it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:17] <lupine_85> Okay; open it up in a browser and login as the admin
[11:17] <CokeNCode> right, guys ... where can i find my keymap file?
[11:17] <Jimmey> Okies
[11:17] <CokeNCode> this is muy importante
[11:17] <JoseStefan> dodgyville, not sure, probably not, but thats the only place you are going to find that kernel, unless you compile yourself
[11:17] <Jimmey> lupine_85, done
[11:17] <secleinteer> flannel: even if i do it on different hdd's?
[11:17] <CokeNCode> ok, got it :D
[11:17] <Cirvin_Fox> installing webcam, how do i do it?
[11:18] <JoseStefan> CokeNCode, try: dpkg-query --listfiles packagename
[11:18] <lupine_85> ok, can you see any menu option like "static routes"?
[11:18] <Flannel> secleinteer: the MBR is just the first section of the first HDD.  If you installed grub onto the second harddrive, then no, but usually it gets installed onto the first.
[11:18] <JoseStefan> CokeNCode, Synaptics can tell you too
[11:18] <reddux01> is there an ubuntu channel for server admins?
[11:18] <lupine_85> I'm just off to d/l the manual
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, using windows?
[11:18] <reddux01> rather than desktop users?
[11:18] <Jimmey> lupine_85, I'll take a little nosey around
[11:18] <cjones> once you upgrade to dapper how do you un upgrade ?
[11:18] <Jimmey> eXistenZ, yep
[11:18] <Flannel> reddux01: you're in it
[11:18] <Flannel> cjones: reinstall
[11:18] <reddux01> I'm running ubuntu strictly as a server
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, install this file, http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Network-Tweak/WinSockFix.shtml , reboot, and everything will be fine.
[11:18] <aburton> ok, so here's my situation: I have a nice box which is all mangled up with a ton of tiny partitions caused by several ubuntu installations, plus some regular sized ntfs partitions from a windows installation. I want to back up the stuff from windows, then wipe the two hard drives clean, but I'm having trouble mounting the ntfs partitions, and for some reason it ubuntu won't log me on
[11:18] <lupine_85> let's see who can find it first ;)
[11:18] <secleinteer> flannel: my windows is messed up, but i want to save the data. i just got a new hdd, and i'm putting kubuntu on that, then transferring the data (which isn't lost) and install windows on the original hdd
[11:18] <reddux01> and I'd like to discuss issues revolving around that
[11:19] <secleinteer> so this will be my 2nd hdd that i'm putting kubuntu on
[11:19] <lupine_85> eXistenZ: you sure?
[11:19] <secleinteer> will that matter concerning where grub goes?
[11:19] <eXistenZ> lupine_85, yes
[11:19] <eXistenZ> lupine_85, I had the same problem
[11:19] <ke> i'm a true idiot when it comes to this. do you mean like Pentium 4, how fast it is, etc? honestly, pretend i know nothing... because when it coems to this, i dont. i dont know how to answer "what kind of machine is it"
[11:19] <Flamekebab> Cirvin_Fox, which webcam?
[11:19] <sethk> aburton, if you can't log on, how could you be having problems mounting?  you can't even try to mount without logging on
[11:19] <Jimmey> eXistenZ, it's Windows 98
[11:19] <Bassetts> im trying to setup XGL/compiz but direct rendering shows "no"
[11:19] <Bassetts> any help?
[11:19] <Flannel> secleinteer: install grub on the first HD, then when you reinstall windows, you'll need to recover grub.  That's the easiest way.
[11:19] <Cirvin_Fox> its actually a sony handycam with a USB interface
[11:19] <Flannel> Bassetts: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:19] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, Oh, I don't know about win98
[11:19] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, I tried it in xp
[11:19] <aburton> sethk: I can log on in repair mode or whatever
[11:19] <sethk> ke, I was more interested in what video hardware you have, but I suspect you don't know that either  :)
[11:19] <aburton> in console
[11:19] <aburton> as root
[11:19] <Flannel> reddux01: what you wondering about?
[11:19] <Flamekebab> Bassetts, you might be better off in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:19] <Cirvin_Fox> but i'd settle with installing a logitech messenger webcam
[11:20] <secleinteer> flannel: how do i install grub on the first hdd? will that be default?
[11:20] <cica> hi guys
[11:20] <Flamekebab> damn you, flannel, too quick!
[11:20] <Bassetts> Flamekebab, Flannel: thanks
[11:20] <eXistenZ> Jimmey, The problem I had is that I can ping websites, but I cannot browse them. And I fixed it with that file.
[11:20] <aburton> I want to apt-get ssh-server
[11:20] <aburton> but it won't let me
[11:20] <ke> haha, no i don't. is there a way i can find out
[11:20] <ke> ?
[11:20] <lupine_85> ok, I've found the manual...
[11:20] <Flamekebab> Cirvin_Fox, I think the messenger cam just works
[11:20] <aburton> it's acting like I don't have any space on the partitio
[11:20] <aburton> n
[11:20] <Jimmey> eXistenZ, I'm connected to a laptop, which's connected to a router
[11:20] <cica> I just removed everything under /usr/src (accidently) :-( Is there anything I can do to get this stuff bacl _please_
[11:20] <anthony_> I'm trying to install this wireless 2200BG adapter, and it keeps on giving permission errors.  How can I simply take all the restrcitions off temporarilly
[11:20] <JoseStefan> aburton, try: df
[11:20] <aburton> df?
[11:21] <Cirvin_Fox> what about the handycam, what procedures can i go through to see if that works?
[11:21] <JoseStefan> !df
[11:21] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[11:21] <Jimmey> anthony_, use sudo
[11:21] <_gpg_> salut
[11:21] <sethk> anthony_, try  sudo -i
[11:21] <Flamekebab> anthony_, you trying to paste in files, sennett?
[11:21] <aburton> df factorial?
[11:21] <JoseStefan> aburton, df (disk free)
[11:21] <justin_> How do I install GCC for dapper, so I can install programs from source rather the binary?
[11:21] <aburton> ah
[11:21] <_gpg_> qq1 pourrais me rappeler le fichier list e mise a jours des media ?
[11:21] <Flamekebab> like, in Nautilus?
[11:21] <aburton> thanks
[11:21] <sethk> justin_, apt-get install build-essential
[11:21] <anthony_> Flamekebab, I'm tring to unpack a file
[11:21] <secleinteer> flannel: how do i install grub on the first hdd? will that be default?
[11:21] <cica> anyone know how to restore files under /usr/src ? _PLEASE_
[11:21] <Flannel> secleinteer: right, that'll be default
[11:21] <anthony_> Flamekebab, /whatever is it
[11:21] <dr|zed> anyone running xaraxtreme yet? if not, why not?!! :)
[11:21] <Flamekebab> run nautilus from the command line
[11:21] <Flamekebab> run it as follows: sudo nautilus
[11:21] <Flamekebab> that way you have full access
[11:21] <secleinteer> flannel: ok thx
[11:21] <_gpg_> omg omg sry
[11:22] <secleinteer> i guess i'll try now
[11:22] <justin_> sethk: Thanks, and can this package be removed later on if I so choose?
[11:22] <Jimmey> lupine_85, can I PM you?
[11:22] <CokeNCode> does anyone know where i can find a decent keylogger
[11:22] <cica> can anyone please help me folks?
[11:22] <Jimmey> eXistenZ, I'll take a look at that - Thanks :)
[11:22] <sethk> justin_, I can't imagine why, but I suppose you could remove it with apt-get
[11:22] <CokeNCode> this one lkl is giving me a heap of trouble
[11:22] <CokeNCode> for no good reason
[11:22] <justin_> sethk: Limited diskspace on this pc ;)
[11:22] <aburton> will rm -r remove things entirely
[11:22] <aburton> or will it move it somewhere else on the disk
[11:23] <sethk> justin_, ok, must be very limited
[11:23] <Cirvin_Fox> so is there nothing i can do to see if the sony cam will work?
[11:23] <Flannel> aburton: it removes it entirely
[11:23] <anthony_> sethk, Jimmey, thank you both
[11:23] <sethk> aburton, rm removes, permanently
[11:23] <aburton> k
[11:23] <Flamekebab> Cirvin_Fox, which model?
[11:23] <lupine_85> Jimmey: sure
[11:23] <Cirvin_Fox> DCR-TRV250
[11:23] <justin_> sethk: Ahh it's only 30 megs, I thought it was going to be in the hundreds of megs ;)
[11:23] <cica> :'-( Please guys... does anyone know how to restore files usder /usr/src?
[11:23] <phreakys> hm, how do i remove a program i installed manually?
[11:23] <Flannel> Cirvin_Fox: try googling, the specific model number, and linux.  I'm sure someone else has already tried.
[11:23] <Cirvin_Fox> true
[11:23] <meone> bbrazil: what was the command u wanted for bing? bing -s 100 -S 1000 ip ?
[11:23] <Cirvin_Fox> and what do i use to capture  pics/video from webcams?
[11:23] <bbrazil> meone: it takes 2 IPs
[11:24] <Gwildor> YOU SHOULD !!! FUCKTWAT!!
[11:24] <bbrazil> meone: and x10 those numbers
[11:24] <JoseStefan> phreakys, was it a deb package?
[11:25] <phreakys> no, just a zipped file
[11:25] <cica> is /usr/src files restoreable?
[11:25] <Flannel> phreakys: just delete the files
[11:25] <anthony_> Flamekebab, this is no use. can I phone you please?
[11:25] <meone> bbrazil: bing -s 1000 -S 10000 ip1 ip2 ?
[11:25] <Flamekebab> sure
[11:25] <Flamekebab> one sec
[11:25] <bbrazil> meone: yip
[11:25] <Flamekebab> I'll phone you
[11:25] <cica> !/usr/src
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usr/src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <Flamekebab> actually, no, phone me on my house phone
[11:26] <Flamekebab> not office line
[11:26] <meone> bbrazil: running now
[11:26] <cica> !linux-headers
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <cica> !linuxheaders
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxheaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <anthony_> Flamekebab, don't know it sorry
[11:26] <cica> !linux-header
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Flamekebab> the one that ends 223383?
[11:26] <JoseStefan> !headers
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[11:26] <bbrazil> meone: crtl-c it after about a minute, summary should give you the rough link speed
[11:26] <JoseStefan> :D
[11:26] <anthony_> okies
[11:26] <stromp> uj, lots of people here
[11:27] <Cirvin_Fox> so what program is used to capture images and video from webcams?
[11:27] <JoseStefan> !tell cica about headers
[11:27] <cica> JoseStefan: I have accidentlly removed all files under /usr/src... how can I get these bacl _PLEASE_
[11:27] <aburton> alright, I realize this sounds incredibly lazy of me, and normally I really would rtfm more, but I'm under some serious time constraints (I'm moving) and I'm running on 3 hours of sleep in the last three days-- I have a ton of partitions on these two hard drives. some of them are swap, some of them are ext3, some of them are ntfs.  (I botched a couple installs... long story) How would I mount/consolidate all of them?
[11:27] <reddux01> Just to let you know on dapper I did a kernel upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade and it doesn't work unless you do and apt-update linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:27] <JoseStefan> cica, dont know
[11:27] <reddux01> after you update the headers it boots to the new kernel fine
[11:28] <reddux01> actually that uname -r needs to be the name of the new kernel
[11:28] <JoseStefan> i have never worried about header packages
[11:28] <cica> aburton: is it possible to restore files under /usr/src ?
[11:28] <Cirvin_Fox> webcam program anyone?
[11:28] <skys123> hello. I have a network that seems to slow way the heck down around particular points in the day. I dont know which host or hosts are causing this. What tools are available to do a discovery??
[11:29] <meone> bbrazil: whats the ubuntu paste site?
[11:29] <reddux01> JoseStefan: well my experience is that I needed them or I got a blank screen with the reboot to the new kernel
[11:29] <sethk> skys123, I would start by running ethereal during that slow period
[11:29] <bbrazil> !pastebin
[11:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:29] <skys123> !pastebin
[11:29] <meone> gracias
[11:29] <CokeNCode> ok, thanks
[11:29] <CokeNCode> uberkey rocks !
[11:29] <justin_>  Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. <-- What does that mean?, I get that from GCC when I try to compile new version of fluxbox
[11:30] <stromp> anyway to get nautulus to show movies resoulutions?
[11:30] <meone> bbrazil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21583
[11:30] <skys123> sethk: I can run that off of the primary eth0 interface or will i need to setup port mirroring etc?
[11:30] <lmosher> I'm about to take out an ati card and put in an nvidia card. What do I change my driver to in xorg.conf?
[11:30] <amonkey> If I have multiple screens on my X server, can i specify a mouse for each?
[11:30] <HymnToLife> hi, folks :)
[11:30] <someperson> i downloaded the 686 kernel and now my wireless is missing, how can i get it back
[11:30] <sethk> skys123, you can capture on eth0, no need for any network configuration changes
[11:31] <fdoving> justin_: you need the package 'xserver-xorg-dev'
[11:31] <JoseStefan> someperson, did you download the modules too?
[11:31] <justin_> fdoving: More packages? lo...
[11:31] <shobew> hey any one have a good link to get elilo working on a bacbook intel?
[11:31] <HymnToLife> can anyone tell me how do I tell sudo not to prompt for the password ?
[11:31] <someperson> modules?
[11:31] <xe||> hi, not sure if this is the right place, i just wanted to say thank you for ubuntu, i installed it today and it rocks :-)
[11:31] <bbrazil> meone: thats a 100Mbps link anyway. Could be half or full duplex
[11:31] <someperson> i'm a beginner in Ubuntu
[11:31] <argument> xe||, sure why not
[11:31] <JoseStefan> someperson, install linux-restricted-modules-686
[11:32] <bbrazil> meone: lot of packet loss though
[11:32] <aburton> cica: what do you mean?
[11:32] <dalfz> what app can i install to manage dual monitor setup on my ati?
[11:32] <JoseStefan> someperson: actually try installing package linux-686
[11:32] <meone> bbrazil: i noticed that, could something like that just slip by so long in windows?
[11:32] <lmosher> amonkey, Yes, i do believe so in xorg.conf. Just look at where your mouse/screen combos are defined in xorg.conf and copy them. If you need more details I can open mine up
[11:33] <bbrazil> meone: well, the 10000 packets would be fragmented into 1500 byte chunks
[11:33] <bluefox83> ok, how do i setup xorg.conf to use my tv as a second monitor?
[11:33] <bbrazil> meone: so the numbers aren't as bad as they look
[11:33] <someperson> cool, thanks
[11:33] <shobew> dalfz: vim
[11:33] <meone> yah, the MTU is set on AUTO for the router
[11:34] <bbrazil> meone: a ping -f might give you a better idea
[11:34] <shobew> any one have some elilo tips?
[11:34] <lmosher> what's the defautl nvidia driver called for xorg.conf?
[11:34] <shobew> nv
[11:34] <dalfz> shobew, crappy xorg.conf hacking with x restart? i got fed up by that from fedora
[11:34] <meone> 39508 packets transmitted, 39503 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 0.7/2.8/20.2 ms
[11:35] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know where the option in the live cd install to have a separate /home partition is?
[11:35] <secleinteer> i don't mean manual partition
[11:36] <secleinteer> i'm pretty sure there's a way that has the installer do it for you
[11:36] <shobew> dalfz: lol I was going to dual screen my nvidia card but x doesn't do well with monitors of different size ,type, and refresh
[11:36] <devhen> secleinteer: why not just do it manually?
[11:36] <cello_rasp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243033 help solve this mystery!!
[11:36] <secleinteer> not sure how to
[11:36] <bluefox83> lmosher, "nvidia"
[11:36] <secleinteer> and i've seen this method before
[11:36] <secleinteer> i was just wondering if anyone knew how to get to it
[11:36] <dalfz> shobew, hopefully it will be dealt with better in xorg 7
[11:37] <devhen> secleinteer: create a 256MB /boot partition, a swap partition twice the size of your ram, and then split the remaining space between / and /home
[11:37] <cjones> flannel reinstall are you kidding me ?
[11:37] <devhen> its easy
[11:37] <devhen> secleinteer: make sure to put the /boot part at the front of the drive
[11:37] <secleinteer> k
[11:38] <shobew> dalfz: it should, I cant complain too much it supports my new dvi dell monitor reselution better the xp did so hey
[11:38] <GUIPEnguin_> why when I try to select any package in the add/remove programs  I get  "packagename" is not avalible in any software cannel?  does that mean I have to add more repositories?
[11:38] <s-ndh-c> hm
[11:39] <pontifex> devhen: why? not because of the 1024 cylinder boundary? surely that's not a problem any more?
[11:39] <ke> sethk okay, could my video hardware be Legacy Video Capture Devices or how it's VGA capable or how it's a Uniprocessor PC?
[11:39] <GUIPEnguin_> it says these applications might now support your system architecture....I have a p4??
[11:39] <dalfz> shobew, lucky you :) me next hopefully
[11:39] <GUIPEnguin_> *might not
[11:39] <devhen> pontifex: im not sure if it applies anymore. i do it just to be safe. i think you still need to do it when dualbooting
[11:39] <secleinteer> devhen: how do i set a partition to /boot, or / or /home ?
[11:40] <sethk> pontifex, the 1024 boundary is not a problem except for machines with very old BIOS
[11:40] <sethk> pontifex, linux doesn't care about it.  I'm not sure whether windows has any problems in that area any more
[11:40] <devhen> secleinteer: when manually partitioning in the installer it will say mount point and let you choose the mount point
[11:40] <secleinteer> k
[11:41] <devhen> secleinteer: when you create a new part it asks for the format (ext3 if your not sure) and the mount point
[11:41] <gamereric1> hey
[11:41] <gamereric1> I need help
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> is xserver 10.4 safe to install now??
[11:41] <pontifex> devhen: sethk to be honest if I create a /boot at the start of the disk too, seems like force of habit :)
[11:41] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:41] <sethk> pontifex, it certainly doesn't hurt anything to do it
[11:41] <s-ndh-c> hm
[11:41] <UKMatt> does anyone else have to turn the volume up a lot higher in Ubuntu compared to other OS like XP?
[11:41] <secleinteer> devhen: where does this mount point option appear?
[11:41] <JoseStefan> TheGateKeeper, yes, run an update before the upgrade
[11:42] <sethk> UKMatt,  what?  I can't hear you
[11:42] <bluefox83> anyone here ever used a tv as a second monitor?
[11:42] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:42] <gamereric1> yes
[11:42] <s-ndh-c> somehow all vmware disk images i create using qemu-img show only 8gb free space in the installer of windows 2k
[11:42] <devhen> secleinteer: in the dialog where you create a new partition
[11:42] <UKMatt> sethk, haha i don't think it impacts your reading
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> thanx JoseStefan :-)
[11:42] <gamereric1> its cool, not hard to do
[11:42] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:42] <ke> hm, tries it all again
[11:42] <sethk> UKMatt, details
[11:42] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:42] <adri_> hi everybody, i'm trying to install a small play and i meet an error: "configure: error: *** SDL version 1.2.4 not found!" can someone help me??????
[11:42] <bluefox83> gamereric1, are you installing from scratch on a system with no network access?
[11:42] <JoseStefan> UKMatt, i should make these fonts bigger though
[11:42] <UKMatt> I have to turn my speakers up to 75% to hear it normally, and I've checked the sound setting and they seem to be turned up
[11:43] <devhen> pontifex, sethk thats how i am. i do it out of habit. it doesnt anything. and it reminds me to keep my kernels tidy, if i end up with 10 diff kernels and the /boot is filling up it reminds me to get rid of some of them
[11:43] <uwo> hi all - i was fooling around with splash screen & themes and seem to have broken sth - i can't start gnome anymore - what is the best way to return all of gnome settings to default?
[11:43] <lordhelmet> is is possible to add a group, instead of a user, to a group?
[11:43] <bbrazil> lordhelmet: no
[11:43] <FRET> UKMatt, you can change the volume with the pcm and master...
[11:43] <sethk> devhen, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do, only that you can do it or not do it, from a technical perspective
[11:43] <secleinteer> devhen: is that what the "label" option is for?
[11:43] <UKMatt> fret, how's that
[11:43] <bbrazil> lordhelmet: I suspect you might want to read up on Filesystem ACLs
[11:44] <devhen> secleinteer: probably. does it give you some options like / /boot /home, etc? in a dropdown?
[11:44] <lordhelmet> hmmm.....can i change the groups that users are automatically part of when they login then (the users auth through ldap)
[11:44] <secleinteer> no
[11:44] <gamereric1> I am trying to install from a system without internet access
[11:44] <sethk> secleinteer, it's possible to mount a partition identified by a label instead of, say, /dev/hda1, but it's a bad idea
[11:44] <gamereric1> I do not want to download the packages
[11:44] <asdfjkl> i have apache2 configured to be a folder on my desktop, but the size is 3.1 GB, does anyone know if/how i can increase that size?
[11:44] <lordhelmet> i can make the change in ldap, but if it can be done locally
[11:44] <gamereric1> I want to get them from the cd
[11:44] <Kurmis> hi. where i can find ubuntu boot floppy ? my computer boot only from floppy
[11:44] <JoseStefan> gamereric1, change your repositories so they only include the CD
[11:44] <devhen> sethk: agreed. old habits die hard
[11:44] <bluefox83> gamereric1, just put the cd in, boot from cd..install
[11:44] <gamereric1> ok brb give me a second
[11:45] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! My Plantronics USB headset is having a little issue.
[11:45] <UKMatt> FRET, how do I turn that up?
[11:45] <GUIPEnguin_> well..apparently the add/remove or synaptic package manajor can't connect to the internet....that is why I am getting all these packages that are 'unsupported' for my arch.... but I can connect fine to the internet through firefox
[11:45] <gamereric1> ok booting
[11:46] <FRET> UKMatt, with your volume control in the panel. Right click on it -> properties for example
[11:46] <hyperpenguin> The headset works fine, but I can't seem to make it the default device/play to it
[11:46] <bascule_> hi folks, i'm looking for a place to download some cd repositories so i can give an old machine to someone with no imternet access
[11:47] <UKMatt> fret, ty, those are all turned up though but still the sound is different
[11:47] <ubunoob1> hi room
[11:47] <gamereric1> ok the cd is going
[11:47] <FRET> UKMatt, different?
[11:47] <gamereric1> what do i do
[11:47] <DanaG> How do I get my CD drives to not spin down after every single track?
[11:47] <JoseStefan> bascule_, you can use the altnernate install CD as a repository
[11:47] <gamereric1> im at the boot screen
[11:47] <gamereric1> what do i do
[11:47] <uwo> hi all - one more time - i broke something in gnome - backrgound, panel, nothing will start - how do i return to a default setting?
[11:47] <gamereric1> to install the packages
[11:47] <asdfjkl> is there a way to increase folder quotas?
[11:47] <gamereric1> should i press F1?
[11:48] <sethk> bascule_, use a distribution that is delivered on the CDs, such as fedora
[11:48] <sethk> bascule_, or slackware if you want a more minimal distro
[11:48] <UKMatt> fret, all of those are turned up, but i have to crank the speakers to hear it well
[11:48] <JoseStefan> bascule_, try the ubuntu DVD
[11:48] <rsk> i need something kinda odd...
[11:48] <dr|zed> ubuntu, mepis or suse.
[11:49] <rsk> i need a lightwight live-dvd that can boot of pentium and pentiums twos
[11:49] <lupine_85> DSL ?
[11:49] <devhen> bascule_: if you use fedora use the 'respin' cds which include updates that have come out since FC5: cule_, www.fedoraunity.org
[11:49] <dr|zed> rsk: damn small linux.
[11:49] <bascule_> JoseStefan: how much is different, i like the look of ubuntu, i use mandriva myself but i think ubunut has the edge for newbies, however the install cd doesn't have openoffice on it and the recipeint of this old machine needs that
[11:49] <rsk> DSL is not a live_DVD_
[11:49] <Jman8888> I have a problem. I have ubuntu installed on my Sisters pc now(They were tired of the unreliablility of Windows) and i installed it onto a seperate hd than windows(Expecting a dual boot to work , It didnt) but im happy with how ubuntu is working and she is happy. My question is how can i See the Windows drive. or even format it to linux.
[11:49] <lupine_85> perhaps xubuntu, if they have one?
[11:49] <JoseStefan> bascule_, same thing, just different convenience
[11:49] <FRET> UKMatt, don't know then. Look again if PCM and master are really up. And the volume control of your player
[11:50] <fishy> Sound won't play in any flash files. What's wrong?
[11:50] <bluefox83> bascule_, then just use synaptic to download it O.o
[11:50] <ubunoob1> can anyone tell me how to clear the list in the Name contains dialog in the gnome search for files ?been searching through fles and the list has grown.
[11:50] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:50] <JoseStefan> bascule_, try the ubuntu DVD has more packages from the getgo
[11:50] <secleinteer> hey, does the alternate cd do the same thing as the live cd but w/ the breezy text mode install?
[11:50] <sethk> Jman8888, you can do either, but of course they aren't the same
[11:50] <devhen> bascule_: how about install the OS/software/updates somewhere that you Do have internet, and then give it to this person
[11:50] <StephenL> What file does System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs  write to?
[11:50] <sethk> Jman8888, to reuse it, you just to mkfs (typically mkfs.ext3) on the partition, after using fdisk to change its type to linux
[11:50] <bluefox83> gamereric1, i thought we went over this...pop the cd in and go
[11:50] <Cirvin_Fox> ubuntu isnt automatically installing my webcam, and i dont have a program to view the output, what can be done?
[11:51] <Jman8888> sethk: Well i want to do one.(Whatever is easier)
[11:51] <sethk> Jman8888, if it is formatted vfat, you can mount it and read and write to it in linux.  If it is ntfs, you can mount it and read, but not write
[11:51] <gamereric1> I had a;lready installed ubuntu tho
[11:51] <phargle> Cirvin_Fox: did you load the windows drivers?
[11:51] <bluefox83> Cirvin_Fox, you need to find your webcam drivers first...what webcam do you have?
[11:51] <Jman8888> sethk: is there step by step. (How do i mount it.)
[11:51] <sethk> Jman8888, you have to decide whether you are keeping windows or not, then we'll tell you
[11:51] <sethk> Jman8888, mount the existing?  yes
[11:51] <Cirvin_Fox> how would windows drivers help me in linux?
[11:51] <Cirvin_Fox> its a logitech messenger cam
[11:51] <sethk> someone tell Jman8888 the url for mounting windows partitions in linux?
[11:51] <JoseStefan> gamereric1, could you restate the question?
[11:51] <sethk> Cirvin_Fox, they won't
[11:51] <meone> !leave
[11:51] <ubotu> leave: Reminds you when you have to leave. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12-1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 56 kB
[11:51] <fishy> How do I get sound working in Flash? Is there a way to reinstall ESD and all the sound stuff?
[11:51] <gamereric1> how do I install packages from the CD?
[11:51] <Jman8888> sethk: Im getting rid of the windows. (It wont boot anyway...)
[11:51] <DanaG> Aaargh, stupid spindown.
[11:52] <devhen> !fstab > Jman8888
[11:52] <DanaG> How do I stop it?
[11:52] <gamereric1> i already have installed ubuntu on teh system
[11:52] <sethk> Jman8888, oh, so you just want to use those partitions?
[11:52] <devhen> !fstab
[11:52] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[11:52] <devhen> !partitions
[11:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:52] <GUIPEnguin_> why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an x86 Pentium4      I can do  aptitude update  fine..
[11:52] <bascule_> JoseStefan: no dvd on this old machine, i want the guy to have a nice range of stuff on cd that he can install if he wants, but i don't intend to become his support guy, this is a freecycle thing - freecycle.org - hence i'm hoping to put o what seems to eb the best newbie friendly ditro at the mo
[11:52] <sethk> Jman8888, as I said, use fdisk to change the partition type to linux, then use mkfs.ext3 to create a file system on the partition
[11:52] <Fo0p> y0
[11:52] <Fo0p> ppl
[11:52] <StephenL> What file do I edit to add startup programs?
[11:52] <Jman8888> sethk: I want to have it preferably empty.
[11:52] <fishy> Any experts in here to answer my question?
[11:53] <JoseStefan> bascule_, and you already stated no internet right?
[11:53] <sethk> Jman8888, what I just told you will create an empty file system on it.
[11:53] <sethk> Jman8888, I assume you don't mean unused, you mean a file system with empty space
[11:53] <Fo0p> phack it
[11:53] <Fo0p> use win 95
[11:53] <gamereric1> what do you think?
[11:53] <Jman8888> sethk: Yeah i want it to be empty. But how? (In terminal)
[11:53] <bascule_> JoseStefan: once out of my hands there will be no internet, the disks are small so no room to download a local mirror, i'm happy to burn a few cds though
[11:54] <sloucher> fishy: it's the custom to just ask the question
[11:54] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i install a webcam in dapper?
[11:54] <sethk> Jman8888, which partition is it?
[11:54] <secleinteer> where in the hdd should the swap go?
[11:54] <JoseStefan> bascule_, if the ubuntu CDs dont have the packages you want, you could download the packages manually (with dependencies) and burn it on a 2nd cd (packages.ubuntu.com)
[11:54] <secleinteer> the end?
[11:54] <secleinteer> or does it matter?
[11:54] <Jman8888> sethk: Its a hard drive not a partition. I have 2 hd's in it.
[11:55] <sethk> Jman8888, which hard drive is it that we are using?  hda?
[11:55] <Jman8888> sethk: 2 Seperate hard drives. Not one big one.
[11:55] <Jman8888> sethk: Not sure. What do i type to find out.
[11:55] <sethk> Jman8888, ok.  do this:   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:55] <secleinteer> does any1 know where the swap partition goes?
[11:55] <sethk> Jman8888, then do the same for hdb:   sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[11:55] <sloucher> secleinteer: I vote for doesn't matter, because I have put them everywhere
[11:55] <secleinteer> but where is the best?
[11:55] <sethk> Jman8888, one of those will probably show one big ntfs (or fat) partition
[11:55] <secleinteer> just wondering, since i have the option to put it wherever i want right now
[11:56] <ubunewb> secleinter: on the hard drive is prob. the best, but it is up to you
[11:56] <sloucher> secleinteer: swap is hardly used nowadays anyway
[11:56] <secleinteer> k
[11:56] <bascule_> JoseStefan: and just have the .deb files in a directory and the 'add repository' in synaptic will identify all the packages? i'm used to mandrivas urpmi so i have to ask :)
[11:56] <fishy> sloucher, I've asked the question three times without a response. I need to get sound to play in Flash files.
[11:56] <sethk> sloucher, depends on how much memory the machine has, and how many users
[11:56] <fishy> :)
[11:56] <GUIPEnguin_> why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an x86 Pentium4      I can do  aptitude update  fine..
[11:57] <JoseStefan> bascule_, not sure. You might be better with a distro which supplies more CDs
[11:57] <fishy> !update
[11:57] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:57] <JoseStefan> bascule_, you could also invest on a DVD drive
[11:57] <nzx> hey, what package do i need to install to get "pear pager and pear net_url" ?
[11:57] <sloucher> sethk: yes, true - so where do you put the swap - beginning, end?
[11:58] <brandon_> what package is xvid in?
[11:58] <StephenL> !help
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[11:58] <Fo0p> fack
[11:58] <Jman8888> sethk: /dev/hda1   *           1         498     4000153+  83  Linux
[11:58] <Jman8888> /dev/hda2             499         524      208845    5  Extended
[11:58] <Jman8888> /dev/hda5             499         524      208813+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:58] <Jman8888> ?
[11:58] <Fo0p> !help
[11:58] <Jman8888> Oops
[11:58] <Jman8888> Forgot pastebin
[11:58] <JoseStefan> !tell Jman8888 about paste
[11:58] <sethk> sloucher, it really depends on the disk layout.  If you have a separate disk for swap (and swapping is actually occuring) you gain some performance
[11:58] <Jman8888> JoseStefan: Already know pasebin
[11:58] <StephenL> !search startup
[11:58] <bascule_> JoseStefan: it's an old machine i'm giving away, maybe i'll try a debian install, i know that can come on a few cds, though my last install of debian a few years ago wasn't pretty
[11:58] <sethk> Jman8888, ok, put hdb on the paste bin; hda is obviously the linux disk
[11:59] <StephenL> !search *startup*
[11:59] <ubunewb> from what i have experienced debian installs have come a long way over the last few years!
[11:59] <dr|zed> http://www.allpeers.com/download/indexf.htm
[11:59] <JoseStefan> bascule_, you could also build the whole environment using the internet, and then when it's ready hand it over
[12:00] <grimboy> Rhythmbox is crashing for me when it starts up. Does anyone know where it keeps its libary database so I can delete it?