[12:27] <Burgwork> oh
[12:27] <Burgwork> LaserJock, if he comes back, you need to a .desktop file to /etc/xdg/autostart *I think*
[12:28] <LaserJock> ahh
[12:28] <LaserJock> yes, I saw that when I was working on the menu stuff
[12:28] <LaserJock> should have thought of that
[03:03] <bddebian> Hello
[05:21] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: hey. two issues. The package of willowng in edgy is borked. It says it is starting willowng but then doesn't
[05:21] <Burgundavia> 2nd: gnome people are complaining of broken buttons in alacarte
[05:27] <Burgundavia> gnomefreak: right
[06:15] <Amaranth> Burgundavia: Dealt with the alacarte stuff the best I could, what willowng issues are you referring to?
[06:15] <LaserJock> Amaranth: does content filtering work in willowng?
[06:15] <Amaranth> yeah
[06:16] <Amaranth> although the current package lacks working training code
[06:16] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: hmm, now it is working
[06:16] <Burgundavia> I take that back
[06:16] <LaserJock> A guy I know is worked on a pykde port that he'd like to get inculded and he said that domain filtering worked but content filtering didn't
[06:16] <Amaranth> perhaps he meant the GTK gui?
[06:16] <LaserJock> no
[06:17] <Amaranth> i know that's broken, hoping to have some downtime during school tomorrow to poke
[06:17] <LaserJock> ok
[06:17] <Burgundavia> no, the filter itself was not starting
[06:17] <Burgundavia> so the UI would fail
[06:17] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:17] <Burgundavia> a saner thing would be to have the GUI start but notified the user the filter is not active and offer to start it
[06:17] <Amaranth> I suppose. :)
[06:18] <Amaranth> ooh, new nvidia drivers
[06:18] <LaserJock> if he contributes a pykde port would you consider putting it in the package? like willowng-config-kde or something?
[06:18] <Amaranth> sure, as long as he makes it work with the current build system
[06:19] <LaserJock> k
[06:19] <LaserJock> cool
[06:20] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: is the UI instant apply?
[06:20] <Amaranth> yeah
[06:21] <Burgundavia> do I need to configure the browser to use the proxy?
[06:21] <Amaranth> yeah, that part isn't working yet :)
[06:22] <Amaranth> and if firefox doesn't honor gconf's proxy settings it probably won't ever work
[06:22] <Burgundavia> right
[06:22] <Burgundavia> I use epiphany
[06:22] <Amaranth> yeah, i don't actually set the gconf stuff yet
[06:22] <Amaranth> it's on my "must be done for fear of death" list ;)
[06:22] <Amaranth> or "Things to Do - IMPORTANT"
[06:23] <Burgundavia> why not a transparent proxy?
[06:23] <Burgundavia> or at least an option for one
[06:23] <Amaranth> that was the original plan, someone on the ubuntu-dev team said it was a really bad idea
[06:23] <Burgundavia> right
[06:24] <Burgundavia> things which assume no proxy might break
[06:24] <Amaranth> indeed, things break
[06:24] <Amaranth> not many things but no breaking is better
[06:25] <Burgundavia> any idea specifically what?
[06:25] <Amaranth> hmm...i wonder if i can get \sh to include a patch for WINE that makes my game work</random>
[06:25] <Amaranth> no idea, squid's website might have examples
[06:26] <Burgundavia> minor gripe, your packing is a little off on the first tab
[06:26] <Amaranth> heh
[06:26] <Amaranth> look at the glade file and cry :P
[06:26] <Burgundavia> you need a UI designer
[06:26] <Burgundavia> sadly I can draw it but glade makes me cry
[06:26] <Amaranth> you mean a person or a program?
[06:27] <Burgundavia> the program
[06:28] <Amaranth> err
[06:28] <Amaranth> let me try again
[06:28] <Amaranth> do you mean i need a person to design things or a program to help me create a glade file?
[06:29] <Burgundavia> the latter mostly
[06:31] <jsgotangco> look for glatzor, he could help, he did g-a-i and home backup
[06:34] <Amaranth> i used the glade program to make my glade file
[06:34] <Amaranth> if i had coded that XML beast by hand i would have shot myself
[06:45] <highvoltage> sorry, I had a highlight from someone yesterday, but there is too much scrollback for me to catch up.
[06:45] <highvoltage> good morning, #edubuntu
[06:45] <jsgotangco> hello
[06:46] <highvoltage> hello jsgotangco 
[06:46] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: pygi was looking for you
[06:46] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: ok :)
[06:46] <Burgundavia> sadly it appears you are continuing to miss each other, despite being in mostly compatible timezones
[06:46] <highvoltage> heh
[06:47] <highvoltage> yesterday I had virtually no PC time
[06:47] <highvoltage> we had a big meeting with all the local schools
[06:47] <jsgotangco> hey highvoltage i got the chance to watch codebreakers in full last night ;)
[06:48] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: wow! i haven't even seen it in full yet!
[06:48] <jsgotangco> how come i didnt see you there heh
[06:48] <highvoltage> lol
[06:48] <highvoltage> jsgotangco++
[06:48] <jsgotangco> Inkululeku was mentioned
[06:49] <jsgotangco> along with digital doorway
[06:55] <jsgotangco> wow pluto was demoteed
[06:59] <Burgundavia> Dear Pluto, Your status has a planet has been removed, effective August 24th, 2006, CE. We regret to take this drastic action but we have found that the planetary club was getting sadly crowded, with lots of your rowdy friends trying to join. Please add some mass and years and then we will reconsider. Yours, IAU
[07:01] <highvoltage> eek
[07:01] <highvoltage> what if the plutonians declare war on us?
[07:01] <Burgundavia> they are merely dwarfs
[07:02] <highvoltage> dubya would like that, it would give him a carreer boost :)
[07:02] <Burgundavia> We will fight in orbit, we will fight in the asteroid belt, we will never surrender
[07:04] <highvoltage> "Pluto is an axis of evil"
[07:04] <Burgundavia> no, Pluto, Charon and Xena are the axis of evi
[07:06] <highvoltage> :)
[07:26] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: what is required with https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-xfce-desktop
[07:26] <Burgundavia> I see it has been deferred
[07:28] <jsgotangco> bwahaha
[07:28] <jsgotangco> axis of interplanetary evil
[07:30] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: it's basically changing the xubuntu-desktop metapackage to be 'edubuntu friendly'
[07:31] <Burgundavia> right
[07:31] <highvoltage> ie make sure the menu's are more or less the same, and that all the features available for the edubuntu desktop works on Xfce
[07:31] <jsgotangco> really???
[07:31] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: more or less :)
[07:32] <highvoltage> when i say that, i don't mean that Xfce should have all the features of gnome
[07:32] <Burgundavia> wonder why it go deferred. That seems like an afternoon of work plus some testing
[07:32] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: have you seen this?? http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html
[07:32] <highvoltage> but that if we say sabayon works on edubuntu, it sould work with the alternative edubuntu desktop as well
[07:33] <Burgundavia> right, that is an issue
[07:33] <Burgundavia> because sabayon requires gconf
[07:33] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: no, i haven't, but it looks quite nifty
[07:33] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: know what it costs?
[07:33] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: you should direct those last two comments at jsgotangco
[07:34] <Burgundavia> it is a solid state thin client
[07:34] <highvoltage> oh sorry, prices are on the page :)
[07:34] <highvoltage> solid state++
[07:34] <Burgundavia> disklessworkstations stuff is cheaper and it supports LTSP
[07:34] <jsgotangco> it shouldt go beyond $90 in bulk
[07:34] <jsgotangco> i will probably get an eval unit for testing with the foundation
[07:34] <highvoltage> aaah, I've seen some of their other products
[07:35] <highvoltage> norhtec sent me a pamphlet with some of their products earlier this week
[07:35] <highvoltage> i forwarded it to jason, he's interested in some of their machines for the freedom toasters
[07:37] <jsgotangco> should be good stuff
[09:06] <Bonez56_> hi all, i am building a PC for a family with kids aged 5 and 11, and they want MS windows + *buntu. In your opinion, would I be better off going with Ubuntu or Edubuntu?
[09:08] <Bonez56__> any suggestions?
[09:15] <RichEd> highvoltage: re norhtec ... do you think it is worth starting a relationship with them ? asking them what linux they pre-install and inviting them to get their h/w certified for ubuntu / edubuntu OEM
[09:23] <Burgundavia> Bonez56_: edubuntu is ubuntu with ltsp and education games, plus a new theme
[09:24] <Burgundavia> Bonez56_: thus, you can give them eudubntu and still get office, et.c
[09:46] <highvoltage> RichEd: yes that sounds worth while
[09:46] <highvoltage> RichEd: i think both them and canonical could benefit from that, potentially
[09:48] <RichEd> :) already filled in their contact form asking for a mail and a chat
[09:48] <RichEd> schweet thanks
[10:03] <ogra> cbx33, mark  was very impressed by SCP yesterday (i actually had the opportunity to show him the upcoming edgy stuff for 10 mins yesterday)
[10:04] <cbx33> ogra, really ?
[10:04] <cbx33> Cool !
[10:04] <ogra> yep
[10:04] <cbx33> I think I figured out the plugin framework stuff too
[10:04] <cbx33> so I'll give that a go later on today
[10:04] <ogra> nice :)
[10:04] <cbx33> did he give any feedback on things to change?
[10:05] <ogra> nope
[10:05] <cbx33> ok
[10:05] <ogra> there wasnt enough time to go through everything
[10:05] <cbx33> no
[10:05] <cbx33> Iwouldn't have thought there would have been
[10:05] <ogra> he just took a quick look at the new upcoming apps and wanted a demo of the localdev stuff
[10:06] <cbx33> nice
[10:06] <cbx33> have you made any changes to my code...?
[10:06] <cbx33> as in
[10:06] <cbx33> shall I merge with you, or havnt you merged yet?
[10:06] <ogra> i only enabled the userlist detection ...
[10:07] <cbx33> ok cool
[10:07] <ogra> i think we can just switch to your code completely .... i'll merge it and take that as a base for further development
[10:07] <cbx33> ok
[10:07] <ogra> we should urgently look if we can get it backported to dapper if its in a useable state
[10:08] <cbx33> had a good chat with LaserJock last ngiht
[10:08] <cbx33> ogra, yeh that'd be cool
[10:08] <cbx33> we sorted out some of the dynamic menus stuff
[10:08] <ogra> classroom management comes up more often ...
[10:08] <ogra> good 
[10:09] <cbx33> well, I hope to have something to shw for plugins by the end of the day
[10:09] <ogra> cool !
[10:09] <ogra> plugins isnt really critical though 
[10:10] <cbx33> well, 
[10:10] <cbx33> what else do you want me to work on that is critical
[10:11] <cbx33> and I'll pool my resources there instead
[10:11] <ogra> just go on with SCP :)
[10:11] <cbx33> ok, plugins it is.......
[10:12] <cbx33> I'll try to get my head round the VNC stuf too
[10:12] <cbx33> but that requires me to have an LTSPsetup
[10:12] <cbx33> which I have but isnt so easy to coordinate
[10:12] <ogra> right
[10:12] <ogra> and vnc to the currently running display has very funny sideffects ... been there 
[10:16] <cbx33> yes
[10:23] <cbx33> ogra, pessulus was the other thing
[10:24] <cbx33> I was talking with someone yesterday about the ability to lockdown applications
[10:26] <ogra> well, there is a howto for pessulus somewhere, jdub once pointed me to it, but i dont have the url anymore
[10:26] <cbx33> ok
[10:27] <cbx33> is that a high priority?
[10:27] <cbx33> can it lockdown apps that are allowed to run?
[10:28] <ogra> i'm not sure, it can at least forbid the user to open a terminal or start a browser, so i think it can
[10:28] <cbx33> hmmm
[10:28] <cbx33> ok
[10:28] <cbx33> we discussed having a listening app which had a list of apps, the user was "allowed" to ue
[10:28] <cbx33> use
[10:28] <cbx33> could even be our listener process
[10:28] <cbx33> it will kill any process that isn't on the list
[10:29] <ogra> thats not very elegant ... it rather should avoid them from starting at all
[10:29] <cbx33> how can we do that ?
[10:29] <RichEd> highvoltage: NohrTec responded ... do you have any info on this for me ?
[10:29] <ogra> no idea ... 
[10:29] <RichEd> " We have tested Mepis which is based on Ubuntu core. "
[10:29] <cbx33> we'd need something that interrupts
[10:29] <cbx33> hehe
[10:30] <cbx33> well lemme just say....that's how its done on the M$ platform in a lot of cases
[10:30] <ogra> but killing apps while they start up is evil
[10:30] <cbx33> yes
[10:30] <cbx33> the other option was playing with groups....and permissions
[10:30] <cbx33> but I didn't like that idea
[10:31] <ogra> might break defaults etc ... i.e. imagine a half in place firefox profile because it was kiled over and over ... and now you enable the user to use ff again ... it will be broken
[10:31] <cbx33> yes
[10:32] <ogra> groups and permissins would be a proper way, but a hell lot of administration effort ... and we'd have to chaneg a lot (and maintain the changes)
[10:32] <cbx33> we need a system that intervenes before users run processes......
[10:32] <cbx33> ogra, yes
[10:32] <ogra> whats wrong with having the menu items removed and disabling the use of the commandline and alt-f2
[10:33] <cbx33> ok
[10:33] <cbx33> what about them bringing in bash scripts
[10:33] <cbx33> that they run off a usb stick
[10:36] <cbx33> infact do we have the capability to stop them executing anything fro ma local device?
[10:40] <RichEd> --> meeting approx 2 hours <--
[10:40] <RichEd> (as in I will be away)
[10:40] <cbx33> ok RichEd 
[10:41] <cbx33> thanks for the chat yesterday
[10:41] <cbx33> did you get my last comments
[10:41] <RichEd> just saw them now ... so a last comment on that topic ... because you're ahead, you'll be behind :)
[10:42] <RichEd> as in : there is a greater adoption of cellphones per capita in thailand than in the US
[10:42] <RichEd> why ?
[10:42] <cbx33> eh?
[10:43] <RichEd> protection of capex investments in old infrastructure by companies, and lobbyists
[10:43] <RichEd> and the UK suffers the same issues with m$ industry vs oss industry
[10:43] <RichEd> have to dash
[10:43] <cbx33> ok
[10:44] <cbx33> take care
[10:46] <highvoltage> RichEd: Mepis was previously Debian based, and now they're Ubuntu based
[11:15] <cbx33> hi willvdl 
[11:15] <willvdl> hey cbx33
[11:15] <cbx33> howz it going?
[11:15] <willvdl> it's all good. you?
[11:16] <cbx33> yeh yeh going good
[11:17] <willvdl> urk
[11:21] <willvdl> cbx33, did you read the Marketing mail from RichEd?
[11:22] <cbx33> yes i did
[11:22] <cbx33> sounds great
[11:23] <willvdl> just some initial thoughts. trying to seperate the canonical and ubuntu specific stuff
[11:24] <cbx33> yeh
[11:24] <willvdl> but I reckon I should move it to the ubuntu-marketing channels/lists/team
[11:24] <cbx33> i saw that
[12:05] <cbx33> how do you see the leaflet/pamphlet moving foward?
[12:05] <cbx33> there is a lot of ideas in that email?
[12:05] <cbx33> how will you decide which is best to use to implement?
[12:18] <willvdl> well, after a chat with RichEd yesterday things were put in context.
[12:19] <cbx33> great !
[12:19] <cbx33> right I'm off for a while guys
[12:19] <willvdl> We have a _limited_ opportunity as such for leaflets, i.e. we could get one or two templates printed with a big ubuntu/canonical print run
[12:19] <cbx33> bbl
[12:19] <cbx33> willvdl, yes
[12:19] <willvdl> I'll mail you
[12:19] <cbx33> that makes sense
[12:19] <cbx33> willvdl, please do
[12:21] <DanielC> ogra: Sound is already enabled :(  Here is my lts.conf  http://pastebin.com/775545
[12:36] <RichEd> hi all ...
[12:40] <highvoltage> hi RichEd 
[12:41] <RichEd> hello highvoltage : Good meeting .. thanks. I think we can progress on quite a few fronts. I'll get some high-level clearance on general directions, and then we can get some actions under way. 
[12:50] <highvoltage> RichEd: yep
[12:50] <highvoltage> RichEd: thanks
[12:51] <RichEd> Tell me where I can read more on Mepis ?
[12:51] <RichEd> Pliss. Tankyew.
[12:51] <highvoltage> the same place where we read more about everything :)
[12:51] <highvoltage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEPIS
[12:51] <highvoltage> they have links from that page to the mepis page, mepis on distrowatch, etc
[12:52] <highvoltage> so that should give you pointers to more information if you'd need it.
[01:03] <RichEd> tx.
[02:31] <RichEd> hi ogra & rodarvus : has it been going well ?
[02:56] <highvoltage> where is ESA on help.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <DanielC> ESA = European Space Agency?
[02:58] <highvoltage> Edubuntu Schools Advocacy
[02:58] <DanielC> ah :)
[02:58] <willvdl> Endangered Species Act?
[03:04] <willvdl> highvoltage, only seems to be on doc.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <RichEd> highvoltage: on the wiki : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy
[03:10] <highvoltage> willvdl, RichEd: thanks :)
[03:32] <willvdl> urk. there's a wiktionary too
[03:48] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:50] <willvdl> ola
[03:50] <willvdl> did anybody read this? http://crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml;?articleId=192203540
[03:51] <RichEd> ping will
[03:52] <willvdl> pong
[03:53] <RichEd> can you pvt will ?
[03:53] <RichEd> all: this is a useful diagram: linux distro timeline: http://www.kde-files.org/content/files/44218-linuxdistrotimeline-6.8.2.png
[03:53] <willvdl> sorry... upgraded kernel and need to isnert nozomi module for 3g
[03:54] <RichEd> check your email
[03:58] <willvdl> thanks
[04:19] <bddebian> Howdy
[04:43] <StephenL> Is there a good way to map a users home directory to their active directory home directory at logon?
[05:31] <hlabs> guys i need some help. In edubuntu is there any way to convert video to flash viceo                    
[05:31] <hlabs> i meant flash video
[05:50] <sbalneav> hlabs: I don't think so, what is it you're trying to do?
[05:51] <sbalneav> maybe you can do it another way
[05:51] <hlabs> i am trying to convert my home video to flash video. Like turn it into flv format          
[05:53] <sbalneav> ok, I guess my question is, WHY does it need to be in flash format?  
[05:54] <sbalneav> I think the "ffmpeg" program will convert things FROM flash to mpeg, which is more standard for linux.  Google turns up the following:
[05:54] <sbalneav> http://www.jadmadi.net/2006/06/22/ubuntu-howto-converting-flv-to-mpg/
[06:03] <LaserJock> ogra: you around?
[06:08] <LaserJock> ogra: I'm nearing a working dynamic-menus
[06:08] <LaserJock> ogra: it wasn't as easy as I had hoped (just setting XDG_CONFIG_DIRS) as it only picks up the first menu it finds
[06:10] <ogra> wow !
[06:12] <LaserJock> so what I did is set up a /users/ folder in /usr/share/edubuntu-menus/ that houses the applications.menu for each user
[06:12] <LaserJock> and then I just point XDDG_CONFIG_DIRS there
[06:13] <LaserJock> here is my Xsession.d script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21651
[06:13] <LaserJock> it might be pretty bad (I'm not very good at shell scripting) but it works so far
[06:14] <sbalneav> LaserJock: is that the whole of it, or is there more stuff?  If you want to send me a tarball, I can do some testing this weekend.
[06:14] <LaserJock> well, I'm currently writing a python script (edubuntu-menus-update) that is used to actually write the applications.menu
[06:15] <LaserJock> I can send you an email when I get it fully functional
[06:15] <LaserJock> I'm sure it will all need tweaking
[06:15] <sbalneav> ok, be glad to help write and/or test anything you need help with.
[06:15] <LaserJock> in particular I'm concerned about slowing down login with all the stuff I'm doing
[06:17] <scythe> hi
[06:17] <sbalneav> Hello
[06:17] <LaserJock> the one thing I have left to do in that script is what happens when somebody removes a user from the menu groups
[06:23] <ogra> phew
[06:23] <ogra> that was a hard day
[06:23] <sbalneav> I can imagine
[06:23] <sbalneav> You never said
[06:23] <sbalneav> did the infod stuff do what you want?
[06:23] <ogra> and i'm really upset about Keybuks behavior
[06:23] <ogra> i havent seen it yet 
[06:23] <LaserJock> what got taken out?
[06:24] <ogra> did you mail it to me ? 
[06:24] <sbalneav> Yes
[06:24] <ogra> LaserJock, nothing
[06:24] <sbalneav> yesterday
[06:24] <ogra> oh
[06:24] <sbalneav> Need me to re-mail it?
[06:24] <ogra> LaserJock, pitti approved the localdev packages in advance, taking my word that the fixes would come soon
[06:25] <ogra> Keybuk did accept them last friday ... 
[06:25] <ogra> but removed them from main today ...
[06:25] <ogra> that breaks ltsp now and thus the next knot CD 
[06:25] <LaserJock> :/ can you get them back in?
[06:25] <ogra> but we got it sorted last minute 
[06:26] <ogra> (only mdz and me are left in the room... he'll shut down the net soon)
[06:26] <LaserJock> ok
[06:26] <sbalneav> Tell mdz Scott says "Is he coming?!?!?!?!"
[06:26] <ogra> sbalneav, hmm, the last mail i got from you is the floppies mail
[06:26] <ogra> sbalneav, he wont
[06:26] <sbalneav> ?!
[06:26] <ogra> i told jammcq already
[06:26] <sbalneav> poo.
[06:27] <sbalneav> ok, hold on, I'll resend.
[06:27] <LaserJock> ogra: do you want me to email you a tarball when I get this thing working?
[06:27] <LaserJock> I don't want to bug you too much, but I'd like to not have the spec dropped either
[06:28] <LaserJock> :-)
[06:28] <sbalneav> ogra: telnet <server> 9100
[06:28] <sbalneav> getcfg SERVER_LANGS
[06:28] <sbalneav> getcfg SERVER_SESSIONS
[06:29] <sbalneav> sent, btw
[06:29] <ogra> LaserJock, sure ... lets talk on the weekend if i have some decent internet access 
[06:29] <ogra> cool !
[06:29] <LaserJock> ogra: you will be back at your home?
[06:29] <ogra> i'll hack that up in ldm asap
[06:29] <ogra> LaserJock, tomorrow afternooon
[06:29] <LaserJock> ah cool
[06:30] <LaserJock> alright, I'll keep working away in the mean time :-)
[06:30] <LaserJock> thanks ogra
[06:30] <ogra> cool that you make it happen ...
[06:30] <sbalneav> err did I say 9100?
[06:30] <sbalneav> 9200
[06:30] <ogra> heh
[06:30] <ogra> netstat would have told me :)
[06:30] <sbalneav> feniks$ telnet localhost 9200
[06:30] <sbalneav> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[06:30] <sbalneav> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[06:30] <sbalneav> Escape character is '^] '.
[06:30] <sbalneav> getcfg SERVER_LANGS
[06:30] <sbalneav> en_AU.utf8
[06:30] <sbalneav> en_BW.utf8
[06:31] <sbalneav> en_CA.utf8
[06:31] <sbalneav> en_DK.utf8
[06:31] <sbalneav> ...
[06:31] <sbalneav> and:
[06:31] <sbalneav> feniks$ telnet localhost 9200
[06:31] <sbalneav> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[06:31] <sbalneav> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[06:31] <sbalneav> Escape character is '^] '.
[06:31] <sbalneav> getcfg SERVER_SESSIONS
[06:31] <sbalneav> /usr/bin/gnome-session
[06:31] <sbalneav> Connection closed by foreign host.
[06:32] <ogra> SEXY
[06:32] <ogra> !!!!
[06:32] <sbalneav> Did you get the email?
[06:32] <sbalneav> should be ~83k
[06:32] <sbalneav> it's already gnuifies
[06:32] <ogra> yup, here
[06:33] <sbalneav> we should rename it to something else.  ldmsessd, or something
[06:34] <LaserJock> DanielC: ping
[06:34] <DanielC> LaserJock: pong
[06:35] <LaserJock> DanielC: did you see that openoffice.org-starter-guide was mentioned in the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter :-)
[06:35] <DanielC> LaserJock: Cool! No I didn't know that!
[06:35] <DanielC> LaserJock: Do you have a link?
[06:35] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue10
[06:35] <DanielC> *click*
[06:35] <DanielC> Thanks for telling me!
[06:36] <LaserJock> under New Apps in Edgy
[06:36] <DanielC> page loading...
[06:36] <DanielC> I see it! Yay!
[06:37] <DanielC> I'll show Jean and the other writers. They'll be very happy.
[06:37] <LaserJock> yep
[06:37] <DanielC> :)
[06:42] <sbalneav> OK, I'm heading off for a lunch walk.  Be back in an hour.
[07:51] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[07:55] <LaserJock> hi P3L|C4N0 
[07:55] <P3L|C4N0> hi LaserJock 
[08:44] <Burgwork> hey pygi 
[08:45] <pygi> hello Burgundavia 
[08:45] <pygi> Burgwork, *
[09:53] <cbx333> hi LaserJock 
[09:54] <LaserJock> hi cbx333 
[09:54] <cbx333> oh shucks
[09:54] <cbx333> you can call me cbx33 
[09:54] <cbx333> howz it going LaserJock 
[09:54] <LaserJock> heh
[09:54] <LaserJock> good
[09:55] <cbx333> howz Dynamic Menus
[09:57] <LaserJock> pretty good
[09:57] <cbx333> cool
[09:57] <cbx333> I'm just about to start some test code for the plugin framework of SCP :D
[10:00] <LaserJock> cbx33:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21651
[10:01] <cbx33> ooooooh
[11:12] <cbx33> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[11:12] <cbx33> pygi, I have the plugin framework well on the way
[11:13] <pygi> cbx33, congrats, I knew you can do it
[11:13] <cbx33> hehe
[11:13] <cbx33> now I have a quick question for you
[11:13] <cbx33> :p
[11:13] <cbx33> oh actually
[11:14] <cbx33> nevermind
[11:14] <pygi> Somehow I knew it ! :)
[11:14] <cbx33> I can figure it out
[11:14] <cbx33> hehehe :p
[11:14] <pygi> hm,oki :)
[11:14] <cbx33> no no I'll figure it out myself
[11:14] <cbx33> I gotta learn right
[11:16] <pygi> oki, if you saw yo
[11:22] <neurogeek> !seen mhz
[11:22] <ubotu> I last saw mhz (n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz) 20h 5m 9s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[11:27] <cbx33> pygi, it is working
[11:27] <cbx33> and I mean WORKING
[11:27] <cbx33> I have everything I need to integrate it into SCP
[11:27] <pygi> cbx33, congrats :)
[11:28] <pygi> did it the way we talked?
[11:28] <cbx33> yes
[11:28] <pygi> good :)
[11:28] <cbx33> I'll jump some code up to bzr soon you can take a look
[11:28] <cbx33> basically ther eis a plugins directory
[11:28] <cbx33> the code looks through there for any file named .py
[11:28] <cbx33> and loads it as a module
[11:29] <cbx33> it the runs the register function inside that module
[11:29] <cbx33> and gets the class name of the plugin
[11:29] <cbx33> and then from that
[11:29] <cbx33> creates a list....that's right a list....
[11:29] <cbx33> where each element in the list is a callable object to hte plugins class
[11:29] <cbx33> s/hte/a
[11:30] <cbx33> so we have a list we can step through to create the plugins menu :D
[11:30] <cbx33> I'm thrilled it works
[11:30] <cbx33> ogra is gonna be happy I hope too
[11:31] <pygi> :)
[11:34] <cbx33> pygi ok, I just started using try and except
[11:34] <cbx33> you knew there would be one question
[11:34] <cbx33> basically when the code runs the register function
[11:34] <cbx33> if that function is not there I have used try and except to say it is not a valid module file
[11:35] <cbx33> but after that in the loop of going through each plugin I try to load the modules class....
[11:35] <cbx33> what would be the best way to say....if the try fails
[11:35] <cbx33> don't do anything else in the for loop...and move to the next iteration?
[11:38] <cbx33> pygi.......:( :p
[11:39] <cbx33> should the code that comes after be put into the try block?
[11:39] <cbx33> no...that's not right
[11:39] <cbx33> I could flag it
[11:40] <cbx33> and set the flag if it fails
[11:40] <cbx33> and then only execute subsequent code if the flag is false/true ???
[11:42] <cbx33> but I wonder if there is a better way to do it?
[11:55] <cbx33> nevermind
[11:55] <cbx33> I found it
[11:55] <cbx33> continue statement
[11:55] <cbx33> :D