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Viper550 | I was trying that Keremik/QtCurve flush idea with the offical Kubuntu Colors, looks nice! | 12:19 |
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Viper550 | Anyone still here? | 12:42 |
exobuzz | yes | 12:43 |
Viper550 | Were you here this morning when I was talking about QtCurve? | 12:44 |
exobuzz | damnit. my sleep pattern. fell asleep at 8:30pm and now woke up.. 11:45pm.. | 12:44 |
Viper550 | EST | 12:44 |
exobuzz | oh. you mean earlier.. yeh | 12:44 |
exobuzz | wait.. what time is it now est ? :D | 12:44 |
Viper550 | I am whipping up an overlay for our current window decoration so it can look like Keramik (With the joined together effect), but not actually have to use it! | 12:45 |
exobuzz | oh.. | 12:45 |
Viper550 | I'm almost there, just has to be a bit brighter! | 12:45 |
exobuzz | :) | 12:45 |
Viper550 | Hope this last stand helps... | 12:46 |
Viper550 | YEAH! Works perfectly! | 12:47 |
exobuzz | i just read what you said about the new artwork. it is interesting. really something different. i rather like it. | 12:47 |
exobuzz | that earlier purple was too heavy | 12:47 |
Viper550 | You mean you like bringing back Keramik? Awesome! Nice to see that there are still Keramik fans out there! | 12:49 |
exobuzz | i mean tthe new colour scheme for kdm and the new kde background | 12:49 |
exobuzz | i didnt see the bit about keramik. its on the wiki ? | 12:50 |
Viper550 | Yes. | 12:50 |
exobuzz | ill check | 12:50 |
Viper550 | Look under Viper550 | 12:50 |
exobuzz | on the kubuntu wiki or ubuntu ? | 12:51 |
Viper550 | Ubuntu | 12:52 |
Viper550 | Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas | 12:52 |
exobuzz | i like the 4th background in this pic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bg_variations2.jpg | 12:53 |
exobuzz | which is the current one | 12:53 |
Viper550 | Yeah, I saw, looks awesome! But still, the Flower goes a bit nicer | 12:54 |
exobuzz | i dont know if i like the flower. i like erm non specific background which dont have a focal point | 12:55 |
exobuzz | like simple gradients/etc | 12:55 |
Viper550 | But still, I'm a bit concerned about the Button design | 12:57 |
exobuzz | give me an example? | 12:57 |
exobuzz | btw im just a user. not a developer. :) | 12:57 |
exobuzz | well. i develop on kubuntu. but not for kubuntu :-) | 12:57 |
Viper550 | Notice on the default window border, the minimize glyph isn't exactly at the bottom. | 12:57 |
Viper550 | Looks a bit, odd like that. | 12:58 |
exobuzz | sorry, which picture ? | 12:58 |
Viper550 | On the actual Crystal window botder on Dapper | 12:59 |
exobuzz | oh.. | 12:59 |
exobuzz | i never liked that i use the platik one :-) | 01:00 |
exobuzz | ill switch and have a look | 01:00 |
Viper550 | Yeah, is it the buttons that made you dislike it? | 01:00 |
exobuzz | erm.. well i dont like them.. i mean. thats the main thing about it | 01:00 |
Viper550 | You can change them, and add a transparency effect to the theme! | 01:01 |
exobuzz | i much prefer the plastik ones.. square with simple gradient. | 01:01 |
exobuzz | yeh i saws that the crystal theme is very configurable. but as i like the plastik ones, i didnt bother | 01:02 |
exobuzz | :) | 01:02 |
Viper550 | Oh... | 01:04 |
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danimo | heya! | 01:32 |
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omeow | Evening. | 02:33 |
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bddebian | Heya | 03:03 |
imbrandon | heya danimo and bddebian | 03:48 |
bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 03:48 |
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imbrandon | ugh this john dong is just arbitrarly picking things to backport, it looks like he is trying to backprt all of edgy ;) | 03:50 |
bddebian | :-) | 03:50 |
imbrandon | like gtk-qt-engines, heh that wont fly without some changes | 03:50 |
imbrandon | and quite a few others | 03:50 |
imbrandon | heheh | 03:50 |
Hobbsee | morning all | 03:51 |
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imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 03:51 |
freeflying | Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong? | 03:51 |
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imbrandon | freeflying: btw ppc has been uploaded all day i just forgot to tell you ;) | 03:52 |
imbrandon | i did it before i went to sleep | 03:52 |
freeflying | imbrandon: amarok is in archive now | 03:52 |
imbrandon | i mean for dapper ;) | 03:52 |
freeflying | imbrandon: :) | 03:52 |
imbrandon | i know i pulled the edgy builds from my server | 03:53 |
imbrandon | no need for them | 03:53 |
imbrandon | when its in the archive and its exactly the same | 03:53 |
imbrandon | if i add libmtp later i might | 03:53 |
imbrandon | put them back up for edgy but no need right now | 03:53 |
freeflying | I can't use it now | 03:54 |
imbrandon | why ? | 03:54 |
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freeflying | imbrandon: Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong? | 03:56 |
Hobbsee | freeflying: means "something may have happened, i dont know what" | 03:56 |
Hobbsee | freeflying: tried removing the amarok config files? | 03:56 |
imbrandon | you problably have to get rid of your db and recreate it | 03:57 |
freeflying | Hobbsee: | 03:57 |
freeflying | select(17, [3 4 5 15 16] , [] , [] , {0, 3310}) = 0 (Timeout) | 03:57 |
freeflying | waitpid(8153, 0x7fcadfd0, WNOHANG) = 0 | 03:57 |
freeflying | ioctl(5, FIONREAD, [0] ) = 0 | 03:57 |
freeflying | ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0] ) = 0 | 03:57 |
imbrandon | it might not have updated correct | 03:57 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: did you want to test the dapper debs of kopete? they build and install fine | 03:59 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Hallo | 04:00 |
imbrandon | sure gimme a link to the source , i'll stick them in for peple to test | 04:00 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: the source? | 04:01 |
imbrandon | just the edgy source ? | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: both source and binaries are in /home/sarah/kopete/ | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | just test the debs to see that they dont blow up | 04:01 |
imbrandon | k | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | they build and install fine | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | s\sarah\hobbsee\ | 04:01 |
imbrandon | you request a backport ? | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | not yet | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | i wanted to know if it was backportable before that :P | 04:02 |
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imbrandon | leaste you check , a certain person the the backport team dosent even check before he tries | 04:02 |
Hobbsee | ouch | 04:03 |
Hobbsee | right. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/57646 | 04:05 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 57646 in kopete "Please backport kopete 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1 to dapper" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 04:05 |
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DaSkreech | Hmm how do I get things onto GHNS? | 04:06 |
imbrandon | ghns? | 04:06 |
DaSkreech | KGHNS? | 04:07 |
imbrandon | ... | 04:07 |
DaSkreech | Get Hot New Stuff | 04:08 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: kopete seems to work fine | 04:08 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice | 04:08 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech: wth is that ? | 04:08 |
Hobbsee | i thought it would... | 04:08 |
DaSkreech | Haha http://kstuff.org IIRC | 04:08 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech: you problably bug them not us ;) | 04:09 |
DaSkreech | Well as I recall if you can get from there you should also be able to upload but everywhere seems to implement it differently | 04:09 |
DaSkreech | will we have Xara in edgy? :-) | 04:10 |
imbrandon | what ? your not making sense /me gos back to work | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: see packages.u.c and have a look | 04:11 |
imbrandon | ask em in #kubuntu they know as much as we do if something will be in or not DaSkreech :) </punk_mode_off> | 04:11 |
imbrandon | heh i'm bad sometimes, ignore me DaSkreech | 04:12 |
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DaSkreech | that's /ignore right? | 04:12 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon: Right click Desktop _> configure Desktop -> Get new wallpapers (Over on the right) | 04:16 |
DaSkreech | That's GHNS | 04:16 |
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imbrandon | thast all in good , my question was more why were you asking us ? | 04:17 |
imbrandon | heh | 04:17 |
DaSkreech | cause I didn't know if there was a standard way of managing it. I'm not sure whether some apps are calling old versions of GHNS or if some are just stingy buggers | 04:19 |
DaSkreech | however I think #kde might be more apropros | 04:19 |
imbrandon | ;) | 04:21 |
DaSkreech | I think it's like the coolest way to get community from non devs who have skill but no time | 04:23 |
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bddebian | DaSkreech: What about those of us that have some time but no skill? ;-) | 04:36 |
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imbrandon | lol @ DaSkreech | 04:39 |
imbrandon | bddebian: shush you are top on lp ;) cant get out of it | 04:40 |
imbrandon | hehe | 04:40 |
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DaSkreech | Fine fine. | 04:43 |
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bddebian | DaSkreech: :-) | 04:57 |
DaSkreech | So XGL can't be shipped working? | 04:59 |
DaSkreech | OK I'm rambling I need to go to sleep | 05:01 |
nixternal | [21:36:41] <bddebian> DaSkreech: What about those of us that have some time but no skill? ;-) | 05:01 |
nixternal | [21:37:22] * DaSkreech points toward documentation | 05:01 |
nixternal | watch it bud, thin ice i tell ya ;) | 05:01 |
bddebian | heh | 05:03 |
DaSkreech | :-D | 05:04 |
DaSkreech | As I said I can't be held accountable for my statements here unless theyare great and resound through history in that case I was awake and sober! | 05:04 |
nixternal | haha | 05:06 |
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kwwii_ | Riddell: htpp://bootsplash.org/puredisplay_pics.tar.gz | 09:55 |
Hobbsee | kwwii_: what are they? | 09:55 |
kwwii_ | Hobbsee: bg pics for katapult | 09:55 |
imbrandon | heya Riddell, what ya think about backporting libvisial-0.4 and libtunepimp3 ( so amarok can be back ported ) i have it in my repos with a few dozen people using it just fine it seems | 09:55 |
kwwii_ | moin Hobbsee | 09:55 |
kwwii_ | :-) | 09:55 |
Hobbsee | nice :) | 09:55 |
kwwii_ | hi imbrandon | 09:55 |
Hobbsee | heya | 09:55 |
imbrandon | moins kwwii_ | 09:55 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: I'm not sure what the poliy is on backporting libraries but I'd be all for it | 09:56 |
imbrandon | ints funny when the internet gets turned on you see everyone connect | 09:56 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:56 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: did you get to the start page css yet? :-) | 09:56 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: kinda then i fell asleep heh give me a few minutes | 09:56 |
imbrandon | and i'll have ya something | 09:56 |
imbrandon | nathan put the images | 09:57 |
imbrandon | on the wiki kubuntu incoming | 09:57 |
kwwii_ | killer, thanks | 09:57 |
imbrandon | i seen last night | 09:57 |
kwwii_ | it must be like 3am for you now, or? | 09:57 |
imbrandon | Riddell: whom should i ask as i dont trust "john dong"'s abaility to intreprit my bug correctly heh | 09:57 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: yea 2:57 ;) | 09:58 |
Riddell | imbrandon: mez | 09:58 |
kwwii_ | ;-) | 09:58 |
imbrandon | but nows about the time i get up, i wake about 12 midnight normaly | 09:58 |
imbrandon | localtime | 09:58 |
imbrandon | Riddell: okies | 09:58 |
Hobbsee | kopete backports got approved :) | 09:58 |
imbrandon | yea it will hit the archive soon | 09:59 |
imbrandon | hrm mez isnt here ;( | 09:59 |
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=== imbrandon will wait i guess | ||
imbrandon | yea i told a few in #kubuntu about backports opening up and they were all like WOW ktorrent 2 is finaly here !!! | 10:00 |
imbrandon | hehe | 10:00 |
imbrandon | i guesss it was only announced on the ml and isnt enabled by default | 10:00 |
imbrandon | so i might blog about it later so it hits planet ;) | 10:00 |
Riddell | imbrandon: wait until we have the obvious kde backports in it | 10:01 |
imbrandon | okie | 10:01 |
imbrandon | yea a few are in like ktorrent and kopete and kbfx | 10:01 |
imbrandon | but a few more need to get in | 10:01 |
Riddell | that's good that they get fast | 10:01 |
Riddell | get in fast | 10:01 |
imbrandon | yea jdong is great about getting them in quick as long as they compile out of the box | 10:02 |
imbrandon | with no changes | 10:02 |
imbrandon | but he dont hand out on irc unfortunately | 10:02 |
imbrandon | i need to fix kflickr to someon requested it and it fails on the manpage in dapper pbuilder for some reason but not edgy | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | much | 10:02 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: probably helps that we're MOTU's too, so they think we know what we're talking about | 10:03 |
imbrandon | heh true but from the looks of it jdong has just been going down the list no matter whome reports it and if it compiles in a dapper pbuilder he pushes it | 10:03 |
imbrandon | from what i can tell | 10:03 |
imbrandon | i dont rightly know if thats a good thing or bad tbh ;) | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | true | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | oh its' good | 10:04 |
imbrandon | Riddell: is mez in weisben ( sp? ) | 10:05 |
Riddell | imbrandon: no | 10:05 |
imbrandon | k | 10:05 |
imbrandon | i'll email him, i seen him on irc yesterday | 10:06 |
imbrandon | so he's active again | 10:06 |
Riddell | he's in Englandshire | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: weisbaden. spreke du Deutsch nichte? | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | yay. i cant spell | 10:06 |
imbrandon | heh | 10:06 |
Riddell | but he's sorted his internet and living arrangements out so he should be active | 10:06 |
imbrandon | yea he has been arround the last 48 hrs that i've noticed | 10:06 |
imbrandon | at leaste, thats just what i noticed | 10:07 |
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imbrandon | he approved me for kubuntu-team yesterday so i wouldent have to sub to a ton of bugs ;) | 10:07 |
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Hobbsee | ... | 10:09 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: err better yet Riddell are those css doc in k-d-s or the actual packages | 10:09 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: kubuntu team doesnt get bug reports emailed to them | 10:09 |
Riddell | imbrandon: there's nothing kubuntu specific about them (yet) | 10:09 |
imbrandon | ok so they /should/ get into k-d-s but not atm | 10:09 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: sure they do , ahve a looksee https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs | 10:11 |
Riddell | it's probably easiest just to patch kdebase | 10:11 |
imbrandon | Riddell: ok sounds great to me, i like easy | 10:11 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: true, but you dont get email notification of all of them | 10:11 |
Hobbsee | and most bugs arent assigned to kubuntu team | 10:11 |
Hobbsee | ohhhh...is that why i've been getting random emails for some bugs? | 10:11 |
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imbrandon | lol | 10:11 |
imbrandon | gah ok i'm being dumb , whats the easiest way to grep a dir of files and have it show you what file a string is in | 10:13 |
imbrandon | i thought about cat *|grep blah | 10:14 |
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imbrandon | but that wont show the file | 10:14 |
kwwii_ | Riddell: http://bootsplash.org/new_buttons.tar.gz | 10:17 |
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sebas | Duuuuuuuuuuuude! | 10:18 |
Riddell | he's gone to kill his lungs | 10:20 |
Hobbsee | hah. | 10:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: spoken like a true non-smoker | 10:20 |
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sebas | Iieeuwk. | 10:21 |
imbrandon | lot less walking that way | 10:21 |
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sebas | Is someone preparing 1.4.2 amarok packages, btw? | 10:21 |
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imbrandon | heh i should put a smoke in my mouth in the gotchi ;) | 10:21 |
imbrandon | sebas: done | 10:21 |
Riddell | sebas: it's on my todo list | 10:21 |
imbrandon | dapper i386 and ppc on my website, edgy in the main repos | 10:21 |
Riddell | imbrandon: still compiled against kde 3.5.4 presumably? | 10:22 |
imbrandon | no | 10:22 |
imbrandon | 3.5.2 | 10:22 |
imbrandon | dapper default | 10:22 |
sebas | Kewl | 10:22 |
Riddell | imbrandon: I thought I read that your i386 ones were against kde 3.5.4? | 10:23 |
imbrandon | nah | 10:23 |
imbrandon | when i did 1.4.1 they was | 10:23 |
imbrandon | not this time | 10:23 |
Riddell | cool | 10:23 |
imbrandon | i did them in a default dapper pbuilder this time | 10:23 |
imbrandon | http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/dapper/amarok/ | 10:23 |
Riddell | imbrandon: did you come across libtunepimp3-mp3 not being able to install? | 10:23 |
imbrandon | yea i dunno wth that is but amarok dosent need it | 10:24 |
imbrandon | something about the .so being in two of the packages | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: the stuff on amarok wiki about installing for kubuntu is not crackful now : | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | ) | 10:24 |
Riddell | you won't need it for compiling right enough | 10:25 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: was it ? heh | 10:25 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: ah, yeah. it was using czezzi repos, for one thing. | 10:25 |
Riddell | imbrandon: so I could put your packages on kubuntu.org? | 10:25 |
imbrandon | you only need -dev to compile and tunepimp3(not -mp3 ) to run it | 10:25 |
imbrandon | Riddell: ^^ | 10:25 |
imbrandon | Riddell: sure | 10:25 |
imbrandon | Riddell: you will still need to compile amd64 though | 10:25 |
imbrandon | i dident do that | 10:25 |
Riddell | yes | 10:26 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: would that get included as a shlib depends then? | 10:26 |
imbrandon | everything you should need for dapper default is in that pool dir | 10:26 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: yes it does | 10:26 |
Hobbsee | so wouldnt the broken lib get installed when you tried to install amarok? | 10:27 |
imbrandon | i fixed it up that way in the control file ( thats why the one in the dapper pool says +dapperfix | 10:27 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee: no | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | ah | 10:27 |
imbrandon | becouse on dapper you have to implisitly dep on libvisual-0.4-0 also | 10:28 |
imbrandon | or it tried to use libvisual0.2 and fails | 10:28 |
imbrandon | but like i said i smoothed all that out when i backported it , there are a few dozen people that have it installed | 10:29 |
imbrandon | and no probs yet ;) | 10:29 |
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imbrandon | Hobbsee: plus i installed it on my lappy too to make sure LOL | 10:30 |
imbrandon | heh | 10:30 |
imbrandon | later sebas | 10:30 |
sebas | cya | 10:30 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice | 10:30 |
Hobbsee | bye sebas | 10:30 |
imbrandon | yea and afaik that tunepimp3 problem is in edgy too whom ever maintains it just hasent fixed it and i dident look into it since amarok dident need it | 10:31 |
Riddell | I'm fixing it now | 10:32 |
imbrandon | k | 10:32 |
imbrandon | once you upload lemme know , someon made me famous while i slept and i'll change it to kubuntu.org ;) | 10:32 |
imbrandon | !amarok | 10:32 |
ubotu | amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/ | 10:32 |
imbrandon | hehehehe | 10:32 |
Hobbsee | nice. | 10:33 |
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imbrandon | isnt there a way to see who added that ? | 10:33 |
imbrandon | !-amarok | 10:33 |
ubotu | amarok has no aliases - added by apokryphos on 2006-07-05 22:33:08 | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: oh. it's unchanged? yeah, i did | 10:33 |
imbrandon | ahh yea thats it | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: added != changed | 10:33 |
imbrandon | ahh ;) | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: bot database tells you | 10:33 |
imbrandon | so you made me famous ;) | 10:33 |
imbrandon | hehe | 10:34 |
imbrandon | ahh yea i fixed the "all" on my repo to work correctly too Hobbsee | 10:34 |
imbrandon | and new konversation just uploaded | 10:34 |
allee | Hobbsee: care to sync knemo? | 10:35 |
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Hobbsee | allee: when i get home again, yeah. | 10:35 |
Hobbsee | allee: i'm off to set some things on fire | 10:36 |
allee | heh, have fun | 10:36 |
Hobbsee | oh i will :D | 10:36 |
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toma | did anyone say 'fire' ? | 10:45 |
imbrandon | hehe | 10:45 |
Hobbsee | toma: yep :D | 10:45 |
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toma | morning all | 10:46 |
imbrandon | fire fire , heheheh fire fire ( in his bevis and butthead voice ) | 10:46 |
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toma | hey! | 10:46 |
toma | Hobbsee: that's not very friendly | 10:47 |
Hobbsee | toma: sure? | 10:47 |
Hobbsee | its' a good way to keep warm! | 10:47 |
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Hobbsee | children, children... | 10:48 |
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allee | rdhiman attacked > 2 dozend openusability groups since last night. sounds heavy weighted | 10:50 |
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imbrandon | err wait there isnt a kubuntu tune ..... | 11:17 |
imbrandon | ;) | 11:17 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: I cannot open your svg with inkscape | 11:19 |
kwwii_ | what did you make it with? | 11:19 |
kwwii_ | it kills my inkscape evertime I try | 11:19 |
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imbrandon | hrm , inkscape in edgy | 11:21 |
imbrandon | its modified from a gpl set i found, lemme find it | 11:21 |
kwwii_ | it is probably my inkscape | 11:22 |
kwwii_ | I build the latest stuff | 11:22 |
imbrandon | yea becouse i opened it on osx inkscape and edgy | 11:22 |
imbrandon | heh | 11:22 |
Riddell | "Accepted strigi" awooga awooga | 11:22 |
imbrandon | and ilistror for that matter | 11:23 |
imbrandon | Riddell: can you try to open that svg just to test please | 11:23 |
imbrandon | i cc'd it to you | 11:23 |
imbrandon | the other day | 11:23 |
Riddell | imbrandon: works for me | 11:23 |
imbrandon | heh okies , yea kwwii_ grab a new inkscape lol, just playin, what can i do to help ? | 11:24 |
imbrandon | another format export or something ? | 11:24 |
imbrandon | its a modified form of the fedora "echo" icons for kde if you wanna try the orig | 11:25 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: ^^ | 11:25 |
imbrandon | i just added the glare stripe and made it purple | 11:26 |
imbrandon | oh and changed the grey to charcoal | 11:26 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: don't worry about it, I will figure something out | 11:26 |
imbrandon | like the login | 11:26 |
kwwii_ | if nothing else, I will do it in AI :-) | 11:27 |
imbrandon | hehe okie | 11:27 |
imbrandon | ohh one more thing | 11:27 |
kwwii_ | hehe | 11:27 |
imbrandon | PLEASE tell me nixternals box is messed up and got the wrong bg set by default | 11:27 |
imbrandon | and its the 5c being used not the 5 | 11:27 |
imbrandon | hehehe | 11:27 |
imbrandon | pretty please , with sugar | 11:28 |
imbrandon | heh | 11:28 |
imbrandon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bg_variations2.jpg <-- thats what i'm speaking of, mine is 5c but his seemed to default to the yellowish plain 5 | 11:29 |
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imbrandon | s/tio/tion | 11:30 |
kwwii_ | hehe | 11:31 |
imbrandon | whoop guess not ;) | 11:31 |
kwwii_ | it is the 5c | 11:31 |
imbrandon | serouisly though please tell me , ohhh good | 11:31 |
kwwii_ | erm, rather, it is the 5 | 11:32 |
kwwii_ | sorry | 11:32 |
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kwwii_ | but i will change it every couple of weeks or so | 11:32 |
kwwii_ | we will probably end up using 5a | 11:32 |
imbrandon | yea 5c == good 5 == bad, yeallow and purple dont look nice in that context | 11:32 |
imbrandon | all of them are good cept plain 5 heheh | 11:33 |
kwwii_ | :-) | 11:33 |
imbrandon | maybe blue and purple but yellow and purple ? ;) heheh | 11:33 |
kwwii_ | Riddell said the yellow looks like puke | 11:33 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 11:33 |
imbrandon | yea i thought that too | 11:33 |
imbrandon | but dident wanna say it | 11:33 |
kwwii_ | it is too much of an evening feeling, I thikn | 11:33 |
kwwii_ | think | 11:33 |
kwwii_ | but using the pure purple makes things way too purple | 11:34 |
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imbrandon | 5b and c might be cool "mixed" though | 11:34 |
kwwii_ | mark actually siad he loves it | 11:34 |
kwwii_ | said | 11:34 |
imbrandon | mark liked the brown too though LOL | 11:34 |
imbrandon | ( as in ubuntu proper ) | 11:34 |
imbrandon | yea it is an evening color | 11:34 |
imbrandon | or even if the yellow and the purple dident mix so much , like your flower photo it looks great | 11:35 |
imbrandon | like if the transition was more defined or something | 11:35 |
imbrandon | i dunno hell your the artist ;) | 11:35 |
imbrandon | heheh | 11:35 |
cmvo | kwwii_: Hi! I'd like 5b, but I don't count much, seems I don't have a mainstream taste :-) | 11:38 |
kwwii_ | :-) | 11:38 |
imbrandon | cmvo: yea 5b is nice but moreso for dapper | 11:38 |
kwwii_ | we will test them all and see what everyone thinks | 11:38 |
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kwwii_ | ;-) | 11:38 |
imbrandon | what about throwing your flower in there too | 11:39 |
imbrandon | i would like to see that as a default actualy | 11:39 |
cmvo | Maybe one conservative theme and one edgy ... | 11:39 |
imbrandon | ugh this isnt all css infact its alot of NOT css | 12:09 |
imbrandon | heh but i'm not gonna let it get the best of me | 12:09 |
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Sime | Does anyone know if Tonio was able to get kde-systemsettings repackaged? | 12:22 |
imbrandon | Sime: no idea | 12:22 |
Riddell | kwwii__: http://kubuntu.co.uk/~jriddell/tmp/o2.tar.gz | 12:22 |
Riddell | kwwii__: you'll need to edit the paths in o2display.cpp | 12:23 |
imbrandon | Riddell: this is lookin "beuitumus" ( fake word lol ) i'll show ya in a sec , almost done | 12:23 |
Riddell | whit? | 12:23 |
imbrandon | the css/images for konq and friends | 12:24 |
imbrandon | Riddell / kwwii__ http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss1.png <-- top part done, thats what your speaking of before i go too far right ? | 12:26 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/o2.tar.gz | 12:26 |
kwwii__ | imbrandon: I think that the top purple is too dark | 12:27 |
imbrandon | ok easy to change | 12:27 |
imbrandon | got an rgb you like ? | 12:27 |
imbrandon | easy to do it that way ;) | 12:27 |
kwwii__ | hrm, I guess one like the one I sent you yesterday :-) | 12:27 |
imbrandon | note this is the same color thats in the middle as the dark blue | 12:28 |
kwwii__ | yeah | 12:28 |
kwwii__ | #7061A5 or lighter | 12:28 |
imbrandon | hrm that is using what you sent yesterday | 12:28 |
imbrandon | ok | 12:28 |
kwwii__ | or as light as #B7ABD7 | 12:28 |
kwwii__ | but that it a bit too light | 12:28 |
imbrandon | kk | 12:29 |
imbrandon | kwwii__: 7C6CB2 | 12:31 |
imbrandon | looks good imho | 12:31 |
imbrandon | one sec i'll grab another screenie | 12:31 |
kwwii__ | cool | 12:35 |
imbrandon | kwwii__ http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss2.png <-- thats 7c6cb2 | 12:35 |
imbrandon | look alright there ? and i'll do the rest | 12:37 |
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kwwii__ | imbrandon: much better! | 12:42 |
kwwii__ | thanks man | 12:42 |
imbrandon | kk i was hoping , already started the rest while waiting ;) | 12:42 |
imbrandon | hehe | 12:42 |
imbrandon | PS in wire rocks lol shhhh | 12:42 |
imbrandon | s/wire/wine | 12:42 |
kwwii__ | :-) | 12:43 |
kwwii__ | doesn't work so well on ppc :p | 12:43 |
imbrandon | yea thats why i keep osx on the ppc lappy | 12:43 |
imbrandon | just for that | 12:43 |
imbrandon | even though i'm not an artist i like to play with it heheh and simplish stuff like this i can do ;) | 12:44 |
Lure | kwwii__: new theme is great, I have only three minor points | 12:47 |
Lure | kwwii__: splash wallpaper is now big enough for my wide screen (1920x1200) | 12:47 |
Riddell | that sounds like a good thing | 12:48 |
Lure | kwwii__: login dialog Menu button is not almost OK - if you would make it 15-20% wider, the whole text would fit | 12:48 |
Lure | kwwii__: why is background image not centered (a bit moved to upper side) - because of kicker? I have taskbar on top and then it looks very empty on bottom | 12:49 |
kwwii__ | Lure: the pics I submitted so far are only 1600x1200 | 12:50 |
kwwii__ | I still need to make bigger versions | 12:50 |
kwwii__ | and we are going to make the splash image scaled as well | 12:50 |
Lure | kwwii__: ok, I just wanted to confirm it is on your list... ;-) | 12:50 |
kwwii__ | the menu button should be changed, you are right | 12:50 |
kwwii__ | Lure: definitely | 12:50 |
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Lure | what is the process to get knetworkmanager backported - some important fixes (+ right size icons) are in edgy | 01:10 |
imbrandon | Lure: if it will compile with a dapper pbuilder with NO changes just request it via a bug against dapper-backports | 01:10 |
imbrandon | ( product dapper-backports ) | 01:11 |
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Tonio_ | heya* | 01:34 |
Tonio_ | kwwii_: I abslotly LOVE the new artwork | 01:34 |
Tonio_ | absolutly | 01:34 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: ping http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss3.png | 01:34 |
imbrandon | hows the finished look | 01:34 |
imbrandon | brb more mt dew for me !! | 01:35 |
imbrandon | moins Tonio_ | 01:35 |
Tonio_ | hey imbrandon | 01:36 |
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imbrandon | 'ello allee | 01:37 |
allee | hi imbrandon | 01:37 |
imbrandon | hey allee your a DD right ? i just got a quick question | 01:38 |
allee | No, I'm no DD and no MOTU, but feel free to ask nevertheless | 01:38 |
imbrandon | heh i was just gonna ask how long things normaly sat in their new que | 01:38 |
imbrandon | my sponsor uploaded it but its been in the que 3 days | 01:39 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:39 |
allee | oh, currently just some days in debian NEW queue. | 01:39 |
imbrandon | yea http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html | 01:39 |
Tonio_ | hum, did someone find the sources for that new kickoff start menu ? | 01:39 |
allee | but currently is holiday season. I would assume that it will pass/reject this weekend ;) | 01:40 |
Tonio_ | heya allee ;) | 01:40 |
allee | ho ho Tonio_ ! | 01:40 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: no its not in public svn yet, he is supose to ping me when it go's public | 01:40 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: great | 01:40 |
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imbrandon | i'ma stick it in universe , and possibly main if we can get it in time ;) | 01:40 |
imbrandon | hehe | 01:40 |
allee | Tonio_: afair beineri mentioned that after next opensuse beta | 01:40 |
Tonio_ | I just hope that will not be linked to yast, like knetworkmanager | 01:40 |
Tonio_ | because that results lots of patches that we have to rewrite with each release.... | 01:41 |
imbrandon | allee yea he was in here a few days ago and said it would hit the public svn a few days before sept 7th | 01:41 |
Tonio_ | allee okay ;) | 01:41 |
Tonio_ | allee did you notice that deadkey issue too ? | 01:41 |
allee | imbrandon has a more presice memory than me :) | 01:41 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:41 |
Tonio_ | I'm trying to play with libqt3-mt to resolve this.... | 01:41 |
Tonio_ | dirty bug | 01:42 |
allee | Tonio_: no, 'cause I don't use dead keys | 01:42 |
Tonio_ | allee okay ;) | 01:42 |
allee | Tonio_: but I miss my kwallet icon. No way to get to my forgotten but written down passwds (dapper) | 01:42 |
Tonio_ | I too.... | 01:43 |
Tonio_ | I'm wondering if this is a kubuntu or kde issue | 01:43 |
Tonio_ | allee we should ask to 3.5.4/dapper users | 01:44 |
allee | allee joins #kubuntu | 01:45 |
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imbrandon | kwwii_: that look ok to send a patch to Riddell ? | 01:46 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss3.png | 01:46 |
Riddell | he's at lunch | 01:46 |
imbrandon | ahh ok | 01:46 |
imbrandon | what do you think Riddell | 01:46 |
imbrandon | hehe | 01:46 |
Riddell | it's very purple | 01:47 |
imbrandon | yea | 01:47 |
imbrandon | but i think it looks better than the blue on purple | 01:47 |
imbrandon | personaly heh | 01:47 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: I like it, but I think that we should make the lower bg color a lot lighter | 01:49 |
imbrandon | like the main body | 01:50 |
imbrandon | part | 01:50 |
imbrandon | as in lower | 01:50 |
kwwii_ | yepp | 01:50 |
imbrandon | what about an almost white purple | 01:50 |
imbrandon | almost white with a hint of purple even i mean | 01:51 |
kwwii_ | yepp | 01:51 |
imbrandon | kk | 01:51 |
kwwii_ | we could even reduce the saturation a bit | 01:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: can you confirm the wallet not showing in the systray issue on edgy ? | 01:52 |
Riddell | Tonio_: my wallet is indeed not behaving | 01:53 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, that's a real problem :) | 01:53 |
Tonio_ | I didn't found a way to reactivate it... | 01:53 |
Tonio_ | I'm reporting on malone | 01:53 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss4.png hows something like that , naturaly the bottom 3 png's need changed to match | 01:55 |
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imbrandon | ello apachelogger | 01:56 |
apachelogger | hola :) | 01:57 |
Tonio_ | alleecan you confirm bug/57696 plz ? | 01:57 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm fixing bugs 56377 this afternoon, I have the solution for this | 01:58 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 56377 in kdebase "klipper crashes on login " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56377 | 01:58 |
Riddell | nice | 02:00 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: I hate to bitch, but it is a bit too light, I think | 02:12 |
imbrandon | no no i dont mind at all, | 02:13 |
insanekane | i think purple is really very wrong | 02:13 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: how about http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss5.png the thing about that is though it will blend with the stripe at the bottom as its almost the same color if i change the bottom png's | 02:16 |
imbrandon | OR we could just take the bottom swoosh out , since we're changing it anyhow heh | 02:17 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: better | 02:22 |
kwwii_ | I think that we could check that in now and see what people say | 02:22 |
imbrandon | so leave the bottom as is ? | 02:22 |
imbrandon | hrm or i could put that thin black line to seperate it like the top has | 02:23 |
imbrandon | i think that would work | 02:23 |
kwwii_ | yes, I think so | 02:23 |
kwwii_ | the bottom wave should be very subtle | 02:23 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: I really prefer the top as this, with less white | 02:24 |
imbrandon | so fill the dark purple at the bootom with the color from the middle | 02:24 |
Tonio_ | kwwii_: concerning the kdm theme, I'm impressed :) kickass, really ! | 02:24 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: huh ? i dident quite understand what you were saying | 02:25 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: ok so leave it exactly like the ss or fill the dark at the bottom with the middle color | 02:25 |
imbrandon | maing a very subtle swoosh | 02:26 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: on your latest screenshot, it looks like the top of the window decoration doesn't have as much white as the current I have here | 02:26 |
imbrandon | ahh yea | 02:26 |
Tonio_ | the gradient is better probably | 02:26 |
kwwii_ | imbrandon: fill the dark in the bottom with a lighter color | 02:26 |
imbrandon | ok | 02:26 |
kwwii_ | or perhaps a gradient | 02:26 |
imbrandon | yea good idea i think a gradient wiill work | 02:26 |
imbrandon | hrm but its 3 sep png;s | 02:27 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:27 |
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imbrandon | ahhh i know | 02:27 |
imbrandon | ok nvm | 02:27 |
kwwii_ | ;-) | 02:27 |
Tonio_ | kwwii_: ping ? | 02:28 |
kwwii_ | Tonio_: pong | 02:28 |
Tonio_ | kwwii_: ah ! you can read me :) | 02:29 |
Tonio_ | it is the very first time I'm telling you I love something at the very first shot and you didn't even answer ;) | 02:29 |
kwwii_ | only when I want to :p | 02:29 |
kwwii_ | hehe | 02:29 |
imbrandon | haha | 02:29 |
kwwii_ | now I read the log... | 02:29 |
kwwii_ | thanks a lot :-) | 02:29 |
kwwii_ | I was at lunch | 02:29 |
Tonio_ | kwwii_: hehe oki doki :) | 02:30 |
kwwii_ | it is nice to hear good things :-) | 02:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: we will have an issue to merge qt from debian....... | 02:34 |
Riddell | what's that? | 02:34 |
Tonio_ | it now depends firebird2-dev which is in universe | 02:34 |
Riddell | it always has | 02:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: yes but it fails if I remove the depandancy | 02:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: am I missing the trick ? | 02:35 |
Riddell | there's stuff in rules that needs changed too I think | 02:35 |
Riddell | look at KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-CHANGES | 02:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: ah okay, I thought that wasn't touched at all ;) | 02:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks for the tip | 02:36 |
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imbrandon | ok kwwii_ hows this for subtle , i think i got it this time ;) http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss6.png | 02:42 |
imbrandon | heya nathan | 02:43 |
n8k99 | heya brandon | 02:43 |
imbrandon | i snaged you images an modified it a tad ;) | 02:43 |
imbrandon | err image | 02:43 |
n8k99 | kuell! | 02:43 |
kwwii_ | this is kwwiis secretary, kwwii can not come to irc at the moment, please leave a message and he will get back to you | 02:43 |
imbrandon | take a peek at the ss , that might be semi final ( at leaste for the moment ) | 02:43 |
imbrandon | hahahaha | 02:44 |
n8k99 | the one off the kubuntu/artwork or the ones on my wiki page? | 02:44 |
imbrandon | beeeeep | 02:44 |
imbrandon | the former n8k99 i dident see your wiki | 02:44 |
n8k99 | kwii_ secretary: that's very funny :D | 02:44 |
n8k99 | i set up a launchpad wiki page under NathanEckenrode | 02:44 |
imbrandon | kwwii_: heh that look ok as far as subtle though , with the gradient ( eventualy i think we need to desaturate them all though ) | 02:45 |
n8k99 | just cuz I got upset with having to load six desktops everytime I looked at the Kubuntu page | 02:45 |
imbrandon | lol | 02:45 |
imbrandon | buy a domain like me ;) | 02:45 |
imbrandon | imnathan.com ;) lol | 02:46 |
n8k99 | i have one eckenrodehouse.net | 02:46 |
n8k99 | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NathanEckenrode | 02:46 |
imbrandon | there ya go ;) | 02:46 |
imbrandon | i have http://launchpad.net/people/imbrandon http://www.imbrandon.com and http://wiki.kubunut.org/imbrandon , but none have prety artwork ;) | 02:47 |
imbrandon | nate can you take the kmail and the akrogator ones and use ..... | 02:48 |
n8k99 | that's the first thing I do when I move into a new place, hang some drapes | 02:48 |
imbrandon | can you use 7c6cb2 for the top purple on those | 02:49 |
imbrandon | the rest the same | 02:49 |
imbrandon | then it will match the other css and stuff i have sone | 02:49 |
n8k99 | erm, yeah - I was having trouble with those two getting them to match up | 02:50 |
imbrandon | erm yea those all do look diffrent | 02:50 |
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imbrandon | did you just color shift them or something | 02:50 |
imbrandon | apachelogger: the day before release ;) j/k | 02:51 |
n8k99 | no, well, yes, but i color shifted all of them | 02:51 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: oh ubuntu drops usplash that fast? :P | 02:51 |
n8k99 | i just did not save the konqi as .xcf and could not remmeber how to reproduce it | 02:51 |
n8k99 | there were several layers and such that made it come out like that | 02:52 |
apachelogger | <-- waiting for qt4 to finish compile | 02:52 |
imbrandon | heh i just edited the png | 02:52 |
n8k99 | :S | 02:52 |
imbrandon | (s) | 02:52 |
n8k99 | yeah, that's what i did for the other two and i didnt like them as much | 02:52 |
apachelogger | btw, I think beside kopete I didn't get a package into edgy yet :P | 02:52 |
apachelogger | no one revus my uploads | 02:53 |
imbrandon | i never see your uploads | 02:53 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:53 |
imbrandon | well i saw ktorrent but you had changed too much unnessesary stuff i just had to redo it | 02:53 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: I did upload ktorrent? | 02:53 |
imbrandon | on kde-apps you did when 2 hit | 02:54 |
imbrandon | i ended up not using it though | 02:54 |
apachelogger | ? | 02:54 |
apachelogger | Oo | 02:54 |
n8k99 | oo 7c6cb2 is much lighter; even lighter than the bottom, you have a number for the bottom? | 02:55 |
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imbrandon | bottom of what part | 02:55 |
n8k99 | beneath the curve | 02:55 |
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imbrandon | hrm one sec | 02:55 |
imbrandon | lemme just give you mine and you can sample the colors | 02:56 |
n8k99 | ok | 02:56 |
imbrandon | becouse you will need to make it match the middle too | 02:56 |
imbrandon | and the line | 02:56 |
n8k99 | yeah - there is tons that will need to match | 02:56 |
kwwii | I was afraid that simply changing the colors of everything would be hard | 02:56 |
kwwii | sometimes it is almost easier to do it new from scratch | 02:56 |
imbrandon | yea | 02:56 |
n8k99 | although i think that the swoop looks better with the lighter bg | 02:56 |
kwwii | I think that the svgs for that stuff is on kde-look.org | 02:57 |
imbrandon | thats what i did on the VERY bottom | 02:57 |
kwwii | cool | 02:57 |
imbrandon | NOW ya tel me | 02:57 |
n8k99 | oh really! | 02:57 |
imbrandon | tell me | 02:57 |
imbrandon | lol | 02:57 |
n8k99 | lemme grab that!@ | 02:57 |
imbrandon | ok lets do it like this then, i'll package up the ones for konq that we did so far and see how ppl react | 02:57 |
imbrandon | becouse it will be the most seen | 02:57 |
imbrandon | then we grab the svg's and goto town redoing it "correctly" | 02:58 |
n8k99 | right - did you change the colors on that one? | 02:58 |
imbrandon | sound good n8k99 / kwwii ? | 02:58 |
seaLne | anyone know about kdelibs4-dev versions for programs? Bug #57602 | 02:59 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 57602 in dapper-backports "k3b 0.12.17-1ubuntu1" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57602 | 02:59 |
imbrandon | n8k99: yea see http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss6.png | 02:59 |
imbrandon | i changed quite a bit of the colors | 02:59 |
imbrandon | quite a few times actualy ;) | 02:59 |
n8k99 | sorry daughter is toilet training - not very good @ it either | 03:00 |
imbrandon | heh np | 03:00 |
n8k99 | yo! that looks hot! | 03:00 |
imbrandon | ok yea lets do that , sounds like the best approach i think | 03:00 |
imbrandon | heh thanks | 03:00 |
n8k99 | i like the soft focus at the bottom | 03:01 |
apachelogger | wooooho | 03:01 |
apachelogger | qt finished | 03:01 |
n8k99 | imbrandon: if you like I made a light purple hue for the world map as well | 03:01 |
imbrandon | yea i seen that , honestly i tried it , kinda looked outa place | 03:02 |
n8k99 | ok - just checkin | 03:02 |
imbrandon | i think it blends well now real soft | 03:02 |
n8k99 | actually does tie in with the K logo very well | 03:02 |
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kwwii | cool idea | 03:04 |
n8k99 | bbs | 03:05 |
imbrandon | ok prepareing a diff now then we ( me / nate ) can grab the svg's and redo it over the next day or so | 03:05 |
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imbrandon | but this will give us the idea of what ppl will say | 03:05 |
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kwwii | imbrandon: sounds good | 03:08 |
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n8k99 | kwii: where are the svgs on the kde ftp? | 03:31 |
Riddell | n8k99: all we have is on kde.org/stuff/clipart.php | 03:32 |
Riddell | http://kde.org/stuff/clipart/kde-application-info-screens.tar.bz2 | 03:32 |
n8k99 | oh thanks | 03:33 |
n8k99 | are we changing the kubuntu logo to purple as well | 03:35 |
imbrandon | no | 03:36 |
n8k99 | ok cool | 03:36 |
n8k99 | do you have a numerical value for the color beneath the wave? | 03:40 |
Riddell | nope | 03:40 |
n8k99 | ok - i'll just give this a whirl | 03:41 |
imbrandon | n8 yea just a sec | 03:41 |
imbrandon | 9480c1 | 03:41 |
n8k99 | thanx | 03:43 |
imbrandon | Riddell: where is /usr/share/apps/kdeui/about/kde_infopage.css in kde base ( and the other files in that dir ) | 03:43 |
n8k99 | ooh this is nice | 03:43 |
imbrandon | i cant find them anywhere | 03:43 |
imbrandon | and thats what is patched | 03:43 |
Riddell | in kioabout? | 03:44 |
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Riddell | kdelibs-data: /usr/share/apps/kdeui/about/kde_infopage.css | 03:44 |
Riddell | that'll be kdelibs then | 03:44 |
imbrandon | ahh so some in one some in the other | 03:44 |
imbrandon | doh | 03:44 |
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imbrandon | gah , Riddell how do i fix this http://pastebin.ca/148970 | 03:49 |
imbrandon | brb | 03:49 |
Riddell | imbrandon: it needs to be uuencoded | 03:51 |
Riddell | imbrandon: look at kwin-style-crystal | 03:51 |
imbrandon | ummm ok | 03:51 |
imbrandon | i just editiede the pngs in place | 03:52 |
imbrandon | so i still need to encode them ? | 03:52 |
Riddell | yes | 03:53 |
imbrandon | ok what am i looking for ? | 03:53 |
Riddell | the uu patch and the decode rule | 03:53 |
imbrandon | i got kwin-crystal | 03:53 |
imbrandon | k | 03:53 |
imbrandon | hrm well since the images were already there | 03:54 |
imbrandon | shouldnt it have done it | 03:54 |
Riddell | no, you changed them | 03:54 |
imbrandon | ahh ok /me looks puzzled a bit but still does it | 03:54 |
imbrandon | wow ok its a patch , now i'm even more puzzled | 03:55 |
imbrandon | how can i make the uu file | 03:55 |
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imbrandon | uuencode the old and uuencode the new and make a diff ? | 03:56 |
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Tonio_ | imbrandon: do you have the svg format ? | 03:58 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: of ? | 03:58 |
Tonio_ | of your png :) | 03:58 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: they started as png's | 03:58 |
imbrandon | no svg's this time | 03:58 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: hum, forget this then :) | 03:58 |
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Tonio_ | imbrandon: the point is it is also possible to generate the pngs during the build from an svg | 03:59 |
imbrandon | ahh | 03:59 |
Tonio_ | that's another solution for adding icons | 03:59 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: in case that might help, look at wlassistant source package, I did that way | 04:00 |
imbrandon | hum i dont have a uuencode command | 04:00 |
Riddell | imbrandon: uuencode filename filename > filename.uu | 04:00 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: well this time i just edited the existing png's | 04:00 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: then uuencoding is the only solution | 04:01 |
imbrandon | Riddell: what provides uuencode | 04:01 |
Riddell | sharutils | 04:01 |
imbrandon | k | 04:01 |
Sime | Tonio_: were you able to get k-s-s packaged? | 04:01 |
Tonio_ | Sime: nope, I have an issue with the makefile | 04:02 |
Tonio_ | Sime: I'm on another package (qt-x11), but I'll show you the error when done | 04:02 |
Tonio_ | Sime: to make simple, configure files generation works etc, but it fails saying there is no rule to make AUTO | 04:03 |
Tonio_ | something like this | 04:04 |
Tonio_ | Sime: I think you touched that part didn't you ? | 04:04 |
Sime | unsermake? | 04:04 |
Riddell | the package uses unsermake yes | 04:04 |
Riddell | you have to make the .orig with unsermake too | 04:05 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: well I simply got the svn and replace the systemsettings folder in the actual source package | 04:06 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I didn't search more than this since I had other things on my todo :) | 04:06 |
Riddell | well you need to do the buildprep | 04:06 |
Tonio_ | okay | 04:06 |
Tonio_ | I'll do it | 04:07 |
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Tonio_ | I must say I'm not a fan of unsermake ;) | 04:07 |
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Tonio_ | Sime: hehe | 04:08 |
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n8k99 | http://eckenrodehouse.net/kubuntu/images/top.png just for fun | 04:09 |
imbrandon | grrr i hate this | 04:12 |
imbrandon | that cant make it simple | 04:12 |
imbrandon | s/that/they | 04:12 |
imbrandon | Riddell: ok this has me whiped i cant make the diff look the same as kwin , do i uuencode the all the old ones and then all the news one and then diff or seperately or wth this is crazy | 04:14 |
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bddebian | Hello | 04:19 |
imbrandon | heay bddebian | 04:19 |
bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 04:20 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: good news ! | 04:29 |
Tonio_ | it works now | 04:29 |
Tonio_ | the problem was in libqt-i18n | 04:29 |
Sime | Riddell: will that computer icon on the kicker be staying in edgy? | 04:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the other problem is that libqt3-mt crashes kde now.... | 04:30 |
Riddell | Sime: yes | 04:31 |
Riddell | unless we switch to the new SuSE menu thing, but I think that unlikely | 04:31 |
Riddell | Tonio_: that's not good | 04:32 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: nope, and I don't understand why | 04:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: wanna see the error message in kdeinit ? | 04:32 |
Riddell | Tonio_: ok, but I don't know if I can do much help | 04:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is our current qt isn't compiled with -inputmethod-ext | 04:34 |
Tonio_ | can that explain the deadkey problem ? | 04:34 |
Tonio_ | the other possibility is the arabic fonts patch, debian does it a slightly different way afaics | 04:35 |
Tonio_ | I will investigate and probably just fix our current version without providing the complete merge from debian... | 04:35 |
Tonio_ | then if it works I will focus on the merge | 04:35 |
Tonio_ | okay just crashing kde and I'm back ;) | 04:36 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: here is the issue: kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _Zthn148_N10QPopMenu10updateItemEI | 04:42 |
Riddell | evil | 04:42 |
Riddell | Tonio_: on edgy? | 04:42 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: yup | 04:42 |
Riddell | qt3 hasn't changed recently | 04:42 |
Tonio_ | exactly the same qt version | 04:42 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: here is the point, that's why I don't understand... | 04:42 |
Tonio_ | only the debian packaging has changed... | 04:43 |
Tonio_ | I looked at the deb files and nothing misses in them | 04:43 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I will first try to fix our package, and this after, since merging with debian is probably not the priority... | 04:44 |
Riddell | oh, it's your new qt from debian | 04:44 |
Riddell | so, erk, something binary incompatible has changed | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: kde could need rebuild with the resulting dev packages maybe ? | 04:44 |
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seaLne | http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/ReinhardTartler/ | 05:05 |
Riddell | seaLne: no photo? | 05:10 |
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seaLne | nope | 05:12 |
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jdong | Riddell: your powermanager bzr repo, guidance_power_manager_ui.py is not versioned | 05:19 |
jdong | just a heads up | 05:19 |
jdong | Riddell: same with tooltip.py | 05:20 |
Riddell | jdong: it's not ment to be | 05:21 |
Riddell | neither is that | 05:21 |
Riddell | make them with kdepyuic | 05:21 |
jdong | oh | 05:21 |
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Riddell | jdong: but the latest version is in kde svn now | 05:22 |
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jdong | k | 05:22 |
Riddell | under guidance | 05:22 |
imbrandon | jdong: hey | 05:23 |
imbrandon | whats the current policy on backporting trivial libs ? | 05:23 |
jdong | imbrandon: if they don't break anything in dapper, it's fine | 05:23 |
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imbrandon | ok can you look into a backport for us real fast | 05:24 |
imbrandon | yup exactly | 05:24 |
jdong | :) | 05:24 |
jdong | fire away | 05:24 |
imbrandon | want me to tell you what 2 libs it needs ? | 05:24 |
jdong | which ones? | 05:24 |
imbrandon | libtunepimp3 and | 05:24 |
imbrandon | libvisual-0.4 | 05:24 |
imbrandon | both of witch comple fine | 05:25 |
imbrandon | in dapper | 05:25 |
imbrandon | ( i have it backported on my website right now ) | 05:25 |
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jdong | looks good | 05:25 |
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jdong | libvisual 0.2 is already in dapper.... will 0.4 break anything? | 05:25 |
imbrandon | but one small change is needed to the amarok deps , but i'm sure i can get Riddell to pop that in real fast | 05:25 |
imbrandon | jdong: nope | 05:25 |
jdong | k | 05:25 |
jdong | good | 05:25 |
imbrandon | it will replace it just fine | 05:25 |
imbrandon | drop in | 05:26 |
jdong | well, then we just need that amarok source change | 05:26 |
imbrandon | yea Riddell ping | 05:26 |
Riddell | hm? | 05:26 |
imbrandon | can you explisitly put a dep for libvisual-0.4-0 in the dep of amarok | 05:26 |
Riddell | what is it currently? | 05:26 |
imbrandon | it uses shlibs now but | 05:27 |
imbrandon | it wants to use 0.2 unless you tell it not to in the control | 05:27 |
imbrandon | if you add libvisual-0.4-0 in the runtime deps it all go's smooth | 05:27 |
imbrandon | thats what i did for my website | 05:28 |
imbrandon | the only change from whats in edgy atm | 05:28 |
Riddell | it already depends on libvisual-0.4-dev | 05:28 |
imbrandon | jdong: btw the new libtunepimp will fix a .so error currently on dapper anyhow | 05:28 |
imbrandon | Riddell: thats the build deps | 05:29 |
Riddell | uh huh | 05:29 |
imbrandon | i'm talking the runtime deps | 05:29 |
imbrandon | needs libvisual-0.4-0 | 05:29 |
Riddell | it doesn't seem to depend on libvisual at all | 05:29 |
Riddell | run time | 05:29 |
imbrandon | exactly | 05:29 |
imbrandon | thats why you have to put it | 05:29 |
imbrandon | other wise visualations dont work | 05:30 |
Riddell | but why doesn't shlibs pick it up | 05:30 |
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imbrandon | no idea, i poked them in the amarok dev channell today about it | 05:30 |
imbrandon | but no answer yet | 05:30 |
Riddell | well it's not their fault :) | 05:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: what causes the issue for qt is the addition of -inputmethod-ext | 05:30 |
Riddell | or it might be | 05:30 |
Riddell | Tonio_: debian added that? | 05:30 |
Riddell | Tonio_: or did we? | 05:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: nope, but your requirements are to add it ;) | 05:31 |
Tonio_ | in KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-CHANGES | 05:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: so I can now do the merge and that should work | 05:31 |
imbrandon | but either way if you add it implistly ( you dont even have to version it ) or libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0 ) would work too ;) | 05:31 |
Tonio_ | let's try, and if it is okay, one of the nastiest edgy essues will be fixed :) | 05:31 |
imbrandon | it all runs smooth | 05:31 |
imbrandon | Riddell: you wanna diff or you donna slap it in real fast ;) | 05:33 |
imbrandon | heheh | 05:33 |
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imbrandon | s/donna/gonna | 05:33 |
imbrandon | jdong: if you stick arround a bit i'll poke you about soem other kde apps that would be nice | 05:34 |
imbrandon | me and hobbsee was gonna go on a kde rampage tonight ;) | 05:34 |
bddebian | aaahhhh :) | 05:34 |
jdong | lol | 05:34 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: I'd rather understand the issue | 05:35 |
imbrandon | Riddell: ok | 05:35 |
jdong | imbrandon, hobbsee: you guys can always file bugs against dapper-backports if I'm not around | 05:35 |
imbrandon | hrm ok | 05:35 |
imbrandon | jdong: yea wth can you document that somewhere becouse we were told to do it agains the package source | 05:36 |
imbrandon | and then you go and reject them all | 05:36 |
imbrandon | i was more than a little ticked the first day | 05:36 |
imbrandon | ;) | 05:36 |
jdong | lol, sorry :) | 05:36 |
imbrandon | heh np but please update the backport wiki ;) | 05:37 |
jdong | I believe it is documented on the wiki | 05:37 |
jdong | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports | 05:37 |
jdong | that information is correct | 05:37 |
Riddell | jdong: well it looks like amarok just doesn't need libvisual, in which case there isn't a problem | 05:37 |
imbrandon | k ;) | 05:38 |
imbrandon | Riddell: yea it dosent NEED it , just no visuals without it | 05:38 |
imbrandon | ( but it will need the lib to build anyhow ) | 05:38 |
imbrandon | so jdong libtunepimp3 , libvisual ( libvisual-plugins if you are feeling like it ) and amarok ;) | 05:40 |
imbrandon | and all should go smooth | 05:40 |
jdong | k | 05:40 |
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imbrandon | i assumeing you'll have to do it in that order too since the buildd's will need the libs but i'm sure you know that ;) | 05:41 |
jdong | yeah | 05:41 |
jdong | Alright, I approved all 3 backports, now we just wait for ubuntu-archive :) | 05:42 |
imbrandon | cool | 05:42 |
imbrandon | they have been fairly quick lately | 05:43 |
jdong | yeah | 05:43 |
jdong | Riddell: is it possible for you to relax build-deps for k3b so that it'd backport to dapper? | 05:43 |
jdong | kdelibs4-dev | 05:43 |
Riddell | jdong: yes | 05:44 |
Riddell | what needs done? | 05:44 |
jdong | Riddell: right now, k3b depends on kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu2) | 05:45 |
imbrandon | backports is off by default correct ? | 05:45 |
jdong | imbrandon: correct. commented out | 05:45 |
imbrandon | yea ok makin sure | 05:45 |
Riddell | imbrandon: what does amarok use libvisual for? | 05:46 |
Riddell | it doen't seem to be the animations at the bottom | 05:46 |
imbrandon | visualations | 05:46 |
imbrandon | no full screen ones like the xmms ones | 05:46 |
Riddell | oh right, well I've never used them so I don't care :) | 05:47 |
Riddell | it's not a dependency so it's not a problem, but we should still backport libvisual | 05:47 |
imbrandon | see if you dont have libvisual installed | 05:47 |
imbrandon | goto | 05:47 |
imbrandon | tools--> visualations | 05:47 |
Riddell | and I get a friendly error message | 05:47 |
imbrandon | it gives you a nice informitive box that tell you what pacakges you need | 05:48 |
imbrandon | yea | 05:48 |
imbrandon | thats what its for | 05:48 |
Riddell | imbrandon: even with libvisual installed I get that error | 05:50 |
imbrandon | thats becouse the edgy package is named libvisual-0.4-0 | 05:50 |
Riddell | network is going here | 05:50 |
Riddell | I'm out of net until tomorrow night | 05:50 |
imbrandon | ouch | 05:50 |
imbrandon | that sucks | 05:50 |
imbrandon | hehe | 05:50 |
Riddell | jdong: poke Tonio_ to fix k3b for backports | 05:50 |
jdong | Tonio_: poke :) | 05:51 |
Riddell | or raphink | 05:51 |
seaLne | Riddell: what is the reason for specifying version in k3b depends? | 05:51 |
imbrandon | or crimsun will sponsor me too | 05:51 |
Riddell | seaLne: of what? | 05:51 |
imbrandon | kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu2) | 05:51 |
seaLne | and how do you tell what it should be? | 05:52 |
seaLne | k3b says 0.12 is kde 3.2 > | 05:52 |
Riddell | seaLne: probably added for transition needs when it actually does need to pick up the latest version | 05:52 |
Riddell | seaLne: to find out what it needs look at the k3b website or INSTALL file and hope it says | 05:52 |
imbrandon | it does say 3.2 > | 05:53 |
Riddell | so that's fine to change | 05:53 |
seaLne | ok i'll do that | 05:53 |
imbrandon | just un-version it | 05:53 |
imbrandon | ;) | 05:53 |
seaLne | hmm kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.1.4-2) | 05:54 |
seaLne | it seems unlikely that we are ging to drop below kde 3.2 :) | 05:54 |
jdong | lol | 05:54 |
jdong | I don't think kdelibs4-dev can drop below 3.2 :) | 05:55 |
imbrandon | heh | 05:55 |
seaLne | jdong: how much of a rush are you to get k3b backported? as in the next few days i was planning on fixing a few more bugs | 05:55 |
jdong | seaLne: no hurry | 05:55 |
seaLne | ok, i'll update the bug when its ready? | 05:56 |
seaLne | i assume backports shouldn't really get updated every few days | 05:56 |
imbrandon | heh durring a dev cycle its likely to ;) | 05:57 |
imbrandon | leaste untill uvf for universe | 05:57 |
seaLne | when is that i can never remember | 05:57 |
imbrandon | sept 7 | 05:57 |
seaLne | eek | 05:57 |
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seaLne | maybe i shouldn't go on holiday at the begining on sep then | 06:00 |
Tonio_ | jdong: ping ? | 06:00 |
Tonio_ | jdong: sorry I was out of the computer ;) | 06:01 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: i think seaLne got it taken care of ( k3b fix for backports ) | 06:01 |
imbrandon | jdong: could you give me the amarok bug number so i can subscribe to it please | 06:02 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay, pretty easy to fix anyway :) | 06:02 |
imbrandon | yea ;) | 06:02 |
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Tonio_ | I hope the current build of qt will resolve the issue concerning qt apps | 06:03 |
Tonio_ | then I have to fix kdebase for klipper, and then ks-s to package........ | 06:03 |
imbrandon | Tonio_: when you go to fix kdebase i have a patch for some artwork | 06:03 |
imbrandon | that you can upload at the same time if you dont mind | 06:04 |
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Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay, but in fact I'm unsure if the fix will go in kdebase or k-d-s | 06:04 |
imbrandon | wb apachelogger | 06:04 |
Tonio_ | it can be fixed in both, but I think the issue is certainly in the current kds klipperrc file | 06:04 |
imbrandon | k well this is for both kdelibs and kdebase | 06:04 |
Tonio_ | something incorrect with klipper 3.5.4 | 06:04 |
imbrandon | wonderfull | 06:05 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: thx | 06:05 |
imbrandon | seaLne: cool new interview ;) | 06:13 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: the deadkeys bug is resolved | 06:17 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: it was due to the arabic patch. the debian way to do looks better :) | 06:17 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: can I upload the merged package or would you like to review first ? | 06:17 |
DaSkreech | Morning akk | 06:17 |
DaSkreech | s/kk/ll | 06:17 |
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imbrandon | Tonio_: he is gone untill tomarrow night | 06:22 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: argh........ | 06:25 |
imbrandon | as long as its sane i would say go ahead | 06:25 |
Tonio_ | okay, I upload.... | 06:25 |
Tonio_ | I'm on the klipper bug now ;) | 06:26 |
Lure | Tonio_: yes! | 06:26 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon: Podcasts are down? | 06:27 |
Lure | Tonio_: btw, we should request backport of knetworkmanager - kwallet now really works reliably | 06:27 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech: the buntudot ones ? | 06:27 |
DaSkreech | Si | 06:27 |
Lure | Tonio_: I just need to setup multi-pbuilder environment on edgy as I do not want to boot into dapper anymore ;-) | 06:28 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech: yea for now becouse we merged with theFridge , i will continue them from imbrandon.com starting this weekend | 06:28 |
imbrandon | and post the old ones | 06:28 |
DaSkreech | So there is a new feed? | 06:28 |
imbrandon | not atm | 06:28 |
imbrandon | i will make it tonight sometime | 06:29 |
imbrandon | and ping/email ya | 06:29 |
Tonio_ | Lure: hehe | 06:29 |
DaSkreech | Thanks | 06:36 |
Tonio_ | hum... I must say the klipper error is very strange... it is the default klipperrc file that causes a crash... | 06:44 |
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imbrandon | crash ? | 06:46 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: yup, segfault | 06:46 |
imbrandon | edgy ? | 06:46 |
Tonio_ | yes | 06:46 |
Tonio_ | the point is I don't know how are this file created...... | 06:47 |
imbrandon | hrm not here i never get the same error you do ..... | 06:47 |
Tonio_ | ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc | 06:47 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I can't review, if it's in debian I guess that's fine to upload | 06:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: already done :) | 06:47 |
imbrandon | Riddell got internet back !! ;) | 06:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: do you know how are the files added in .kde when first loging created ? | 06:48 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the default klipperrc causes the crash, but I can't find it anywhere else | 06:48 |
Tonio_ | even it's content isn't in kdebase......... | 06:48 |
Tonio_ | I don't understand how it's generated | 06:48 |
Lure | Tonio_: some config files are created from code | 06:51 |
Tonio_ | Lure: here is the problem :) | 06:51 |
Lure | Tonio_: I have seen it for Xsession, not sure for other kde stuff | 06:51 |
Riddell | Tonio_: something in kdelibs will make them | 06:53 |
Lure | Tonio_: example: kdebase-3.5.2/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf.c | 06:54 |
Tonio_ | OMG !!! | 06:54 |
Tonio_ | here is the point | 06:54 |
Tonio_ | it fails -> remove the file -> it works -> add the file again -> it works.......... | 06:54 |
Tonio_ | ununderstandable ! | 06:54 |
Tonio_ | I'm gonna diff to figure the changes on .kde | 06:55 |
Lure | interesting, but crashes are sometimes unreproducible (at least not 100%) | 06:55 |
Tonio_ | Lure: in this case it is easy to reproduce, simply create a new profile and login :) | 06:56 |
Tonio_ | Lure: diff -Nur .kde.bak .kde | 07:00 |
Tonio_ | no output | 07:00 |
Tonio_ | doesn't work with .kde.bak, but works with .kde | 07:00 |
Tonio_ | Lure: isn't that an interesting trick ;) | 07:00 |
Lure | this is getting interesting | 07:00 |
Lure | Tonio_: it maybe that they code creating default file crashes? but only the first time... | 07:02 |
Tonio_ | Lure: if it was this, the file shouldn't be created | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | Lure: and more than this, is still crashing if you relaunch klipper | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | so I assume the cause is elsewhere | 07:03 |
Lure | Tonio_: it may be that file is created and some cleanup code crashes, next time the file is there and problematic code does not get executed | 07:03 |
Lure | I will download the source of klipper and look in... | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | Lure: more interesting | 07:06 |
Tonio_ | start the session, it fails | 07:06 |
Tonio_ | launch it manually, it works | 07:06 |
Tonio_ | logout, login it fails......... | 07:06 |
Lure | Tonio_: this is what one guy mentioned in bug - it works from console | 07:07 |
Tonio_ | there is something special in the command used while autolaunching it | 07:07 |
seaLne | Tonio_: could you look at http://geeksoc.org/~kd/k3b and upload? | 07:07 |
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Lure | Tonio_: it may be environment that is different in Konsole than in Run | 07:07 |
Tonio_ | Lure: ah ;) I didn't took the time to read the bug since I already saw it | 07:07 |
Tonio_ | seaLne: sure | 07:07 |
Tonio_ | seaLne: upload to edgy | 07:07 |
seaLne | Tonio_: yeah | 07:07 |
seaLne | Tonio_: off to cinema now, so ping if there is anything wrong, thanks | 07:08 |
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Tonio_ | seaLne: sure | 07:08 |
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Lure | Tonio_: knm builds in dapper, so I will request backport | 07:09 |
Tonio_ | Lure: okayt | 07:09 |
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fdoving | hmm.. newest network-manager doesn't work with my bcm43xx. | 07:46 |
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Lure | hi allee | 07:57 |
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allee | heya Lure | 07:57 |
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tuxi | hi | 08:27 |
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tuxi | i'am clean up my apt server ;-) | 08:27 |
tuxi | dirty thing | 08:27 |
Tonio_ | Lure: it looks like the klipper bug is very complex in fact | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | Lure: klipper works in konsole because nothing is set as an argument | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | I assume kde is giving arguments while launching via a desktop file | 08:28 |
Lure | Tonio_: yep - it seems it crashes as it cycles (recursion) in KConfig... | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | Lure: can you try this : klipper --toto | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | segfault | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | it should say invalid argument | 08:28 |
Tonio_ | I assume this is the same bug | 08:29 |
Tonio_ | that makes klipper crash from konsole | 08:29 |
Lure | Tonio_: --toto invalid option | 08:29 |
Tonio_ | Lure: but what I don't understand is that it works with an empty klipperrc | 08:29 |
Tonio_ | this would mean the problel is to parse the config file | 08:30 |
Tonio_ | but the thing is that the config is correctly parsed while launching klipper from konsole | 08:30 |
Lure | Tonio_: maybe we should submit upstream | 08:30 |
Tonio_ | Lure: invalid option on edgy ? | 08:30 |
Lure | Tonio_: yes | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~$ klipper --toto | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | Erreur de segmentation | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | tonio@kubuntu:~$ | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | means segfault | 08:31 |
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Tonio_ | Lure: do you have a klipperrc file in your profile ? | 08:31 |
trappist | Tonio_: I don't, and it gives a usage statement as expected here | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | Lure: in fact I had a workarround for the bug but it looks incomplete | 08:31 |
Tonio_ | trappist: I can't understand this.... | 08:32 |
Lure | yes, ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc | 08:32 |
Tonio_ | Lure: remove it and retry | 08:32 |
Tonio_ | ;) | 08:32 |
Lure | trappist: but it takes time, yes? | 08:32 |
trappist | Lure: yes | 08:33 |
Tonio_ | Lure: okay if I remove the klipperrc file, it tells me that this is an unknown option | 08:33 |
Tonio_ | good | 08:33 |
trappist | and now that I do have a klipperrc, it still doesn't segfault | 08:33 |
Tonio_ | trappist: simply try this : echo "#" > ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc | 08:34 |
Tonio_ | trappist: that will reproduce the segfault while doing klipper --toto | 08:34 |
Tonio_ | bug the thing is it'll crash whatever is the text inside | 08:35 |
Tonio_ | not only # | 08:35 |
Tonio_ | Lure: can you confirm this too ? | 08:35 |
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trappist | Tonio_: no, it still doesn't segfault | 08:35 |
Tonio_ | trappist: it does here | 08:35 |
Lure | Tonio_: no, still no crash... | 08:35 |
Tonio_ | Lure: hum, okay let's forget this :) | 08:36 |
Tonio_ | can be a profile difference | 08:36 |
Tonio_ | Lure: the point is that it takes a lot of time to output the error | 08:36 |
Tonio_ | it should be almost automatic | 08:36 |
trappist | takes a lot of time here to output the usage statement, too | 08:37 |
Tonio_ | Lure: I think we should report that upstream, but as it is a code issue, you may give a better explanation that I can ;) | 08:37 |
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danimo | heya! | 08:37 |
Lure | trappist: I suspect it get in some kind of recursion which sometimes crashes and sometimes completes (by accident?) | 08:37 |
danimo | is it possible to install dapper in text mode? | 08:37 |
Lure | at least stack trace looks like that | 08:37 |
Lure | danimo: yes, alternate CD is for that | 08:38 |
Lure | danimo: or DVD | 08:38 |
trappist | I'm watching the strace output - there is a LOT of it for an invalid option | 08:38 |
danimo | Lure: but not with the original CD? | 08:38 |
trappist | still watching... | 08:38 |
Lure | danimo: no, not with desktop/live CD | 08:38 |
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Lure | there are some nice errors like this reported: ==21130== Warning: invalid file descriptor 1019 in syscall open() | 08:39 |
Lure | Tonio_: now it has crashed - under valgrind! will attach log to bug | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | Lure: cool | 08:42 |
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Tonio_ | Lure: I commented again on bug 56377 since what I though to be a fix is only a workaround | 08:46 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 56377 in kdebase "klipper crashes on login " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56377 | 08:46 |
Lure | Tonio_: I have added valgrind data | 08:46 |
Tonio_ | Lure: great | 08:47 |
Tonio_ | Lure: we should ping klipper maintainer eventually | 08:48 |
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seaLne | it would be nice if one of these days the fridge actually announced behindubuntu interviews before lwn | 10:36 |
seaLne | or atleast the same day | 10:37 |
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