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srdjantuwo: you have to check /sys/bus/usb/devices/  or run dmesg and see what it says about your device.12:10
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srdjantuwo: actually i think the kernel is already using the usb-storage driver, and if I understand correctly, you only want to change the icon...12:11
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apallo19noone's talking!12:13
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srdjanti am!12:13
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apallo19hiya wolfmanz12:13
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wolfmanzhello12:14
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uwosrdjant: the icon is one thing - but it is just one of the consequences - on kcontrol i can't change separate options for my real camera and for the ipod, because both are recognised as cameras - when i do properties on the ipod icon on desktop, it also says camera....12:16
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A|i3NHey is there an HTML editor for linux that for all practical purpose looks like Front Page?12:16
david_yes, mozilla composer12:16
apallo19you could always install frontpage...12:16
A|i3Nor would that be open offices version12:16
A|i3Nwith wine you mean, apallo?12:16
apallo19yeah12:16
fdovingnite all.12:16
apallo19nite12:16
A|i3Nnah.. hehe.. i want a linux version... after the IE i installed didn't quite work the same as in windows i don't think I'd put front page on12:17
A|i3NDavid_ can I get that from the repository?12:17
apallo19meh, wine works for me with almost no problems12:17
srdjantfront page is evil. use something else. dreamweaver or quanta.12:17
david_yes, let me see12:17
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cexaranybody know how to configure a webserver in apache2 ?12:17
apallo19could try googleing freeware wysiwyg webpage editor12:18
srdjantuwo: I don;t know how to configure that then. I've never had a usb camera and don't know how kde reacts to one. Also never had an ipod. :/12:18
david_and you will get tons of win software12:18
A|i3Nthere isn't a Netobjects Fusion-like version available for linux is there?12:18
apallo19so narrow it12:18
cexaranyone?12:18
david_didnt found in the repos, try to find a deb12:19
srdjantcexar: edit the apache configuration file12:19
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cexaryeah, i did it, but it doesnt work12:19
srdjantand that means what?12:19
cexari've edited apache2.conf12:20
cexarbut can't resolve domains12:20
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srdjantcan you resolve domains? maybe it's a problem with your linux setup, and not apache212:21
cexarcan resolve the DNS ie selected12:22
cexarbut i have internet ok12:22
cexarreally i need to redirect a domain to my local server12:22
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Fo0py012:23
Fo0pbandit12:23
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Danishi tried but apache failed on windows can somebody help set it up on kubuntu12:27
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cexarok12:29
cexari guess no one more knows anything12:30
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josh__wow12:33
josh__kernel panic12:33
josh__anyways doesn anyone mind helping me with my realtek drivers?12:34
srdjant:(12:34
josh__yeh i'm pretty mad about this12:34
josh__but all the errors happened when they tried finding alsa12:35
srdjantrealtek are pretty good, should work12:35
srdjantwhat kernel version?12:35
josh__and it didn't detect my sound card12:35
josh__uh i dont know actually12:35
josh__but i'm doing a huge update right now12:35
josh__ok after it does this massive update i'll check what kernel i have12:36
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arkygeekhi12:38
nkRushwho gets such hostnames: open.192.194.66.in-addr.arpa ? oO12:39
arkygeekso i have kubuntu installed, configured, and actually working prtty dang well12:39
arkygeek:D12:39
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josh__k i'm removing adept then reinstalling12:40
srdjantis adept bad?12:41
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josh__i mean alsa12:43
josh__god i'm confusing everything today12:43
josh__whats the command for running adept12:43
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josh__ok i can't find adept whats going on here12:46
srdjantalsa or adept? ;P12:46
srdjantsudo /usr/bin/adept12:47
x311wuusuup12:47
josh__it can't find adept12:48
josh__wtf is going on12:48
srdjantmaybe it was uninstaled12:48
josh__ok how do i reinstall adept12:49
misieqwhat is the name of a program that could apply some info to wallpaper? and i don't mean superkaramba12:49
RawSewageimage tags?12:49
misieqi think it actually changed the wallpaper and applied some text to it. the names started with t... tr... something like that12:50
srdjantjosh__: sudo apt-get install adept    <--- maybe that will work12:50
RawSewageI think you can do that by right-clicking desktop12:50
RawSewageConfigure12:50
RawSewageAdvanced Options on the right12:51
RawSewagenm12:51
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RawSewagedisregard12:51
krauthi12:51
josh__there we go12:51
RawSewageI was wrong12:51
krautfrom special reasons i need to install kubuntu with the automatic partitionary tool but without swap, is that possible?12:51
misieqRawSewage: hmmm... haven't known that before. might be useful thanks anyway12:51
RawSewageI was wrong12:52
misieqwhy?12:52
josh__ok now i can't run system settings12:54
srdjanttime for me to go to sleep. nite all12:54
RawSewagemisieq, telak?12:54
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misieqno, i don't think so...12:55
RawSewageok12:55
misieqi might be wrong with this name...12:56
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josh__m'k12:56
josh__now system settings isn't in my kmenu12:56
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josh__my kicker is missing12:57
RawSewagedo this12:57
josh__ok suse here i come12:57
RawSewagerun kcontrol first12:57
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RawSewageDesktop12:58
RawSewagePanels12:58
RawSewageMenus tab12:58
RawSewagecheck Settings12:58
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josh__the specified library kicker could not be found12:59
josh__that CAN"T be good12:59
ubuntu__!xgl > ubuntu__01:00
josh__i have suse 10 disks right here01:00
josh__i think i'm gonna go install it now01:00
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RawSewagedid you even do anything I said01:01
josh__ya01:02
RawSewagealt+f201:02
RawSewagekcontrol01:02
RawSewagedoesnt work?01:02
josh__ya01:02
josh__alt f2 just says run command01:02
RawSewagethen type kcontrol01:02
josh__could not run/01:03
RawSewageThen go to Desktop - Panels - Menus Tab01:03
RawSewageweird01:03
josh__ya i messed something up badly01:03
RawSewagemaybe in a console try  sudo apt-get install kcontrol01:03
josh__ah01:03
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misieqRawSewage: ahhh... tracked it down. here is screenie: http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/1687/screenshotoct059na.png but i still don't know the name01:05
josh__ok01:06
misieq(the thing on the lower right)01:06
RawSewagethe CID thing01:07
RawSewagethats Kubuntu?01:07
misieqi don't think so01:08
RawSewagelol01:08
RawSewagethat looks like Gentoo01:08
RawSewageI think youre in the wrong channel01:08
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misieqi use kubuntu so i'm in the right channel. never mind the distro on the screenshot, i just try to identify this prog.01:09
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RawSewageoh01:09
josh__whats that thing where you can have each desktop on one side of a cube01:09
josh__then u just spin it around01:09
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RawSewageglx/compiz01:09
josh__is that a package?01:10
RawSewagemisieq, oops.  I got you confused with josh__01:10
misieqRawSewage: have you tried that in kubuntu?01:10
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josh__m'k01:10
misieqi mean glx?01:10
RawSewageglx/compiz was for josh__01:10
misieqi know, but i was asking if you tried that :)01:11
RawSewagemisieq,  I dont know what you need for that01:11
RawSewageno01:11
RawSewageOh01:11
RawSewageyes, Ive used compiz/xgl01:11
misieqand how did it work?01:11
RawSewageit ran nicely on my 2ghz 512 ram NVidia 420001:11
RawSewageI think it requires Nvidia 4000+01:12
RawSewageeverythign was full speed01:12
misieqi've used kororaa and i was overwhelmed by its performance on my axp1800+ 784mb gf2 mx 400 64mb01:12
josh__is glx/compiz a command or package or what01:13
misieqby the way... it's xgl not glx :] 01:13
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misieq!xgl01:14
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:14
RawSewageoh yeah01:14
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josh__i installed compiz now what01:15
RawSewageum01:15
misieq!xgl > josh__01:15
RawSewageyou have to follow 100 stpes01:15
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RawSewageyoull have to follow a tutorial to the letter01:16
RawSewageit's a pain to get working01:16
misieqjosh__: or you can get suse or kororaa ;P01:16
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RawSewageread the link misieq gave   http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez01:16
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RawSewagemisieq, so you want something that displays system info on the wallpaper, but doesnt use SK01:23
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snowdrifthello, all01:25
snowdrifti am using kubuntu and xp (dual boot). i need to set xp as the default OS. whats the easiest way to do this?01:26
Tokeiitolabanktis/good night01:26
aliasfredsnowdrift: there is an option in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:26
aliasfreddefault=001:26
snowdriftjust edit the file manually?01:27
aliasfredbut you replace 0 by the index of the boot you want01:27
aliasfredyep01:27
snowdriftthat seems easy01:27
aliasfredkdedu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst01:27
aliasfredkdesu even01:27
snowdriftkdedu?01:27
snowdriftis that an editor01:27
aliasfrednope it is the think allowing you to edit this file as superuser01:28
snowdrifti have a few things to learn01:28
snowdrifthahah01:28
aliasfredkate is the editor01:28
aliasfred:)01:28
snowdriftOK01:29
snowdriftI went to Run Command01:29
snowdriftand pasted it.01:29
snowdriftI got some error about "Could not run the specified command."01:29
aliasfredput that in a terminal01:29
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snowdrift"command not found"01:30
snowdrift... from Konsole.01:30
aliasfredah ok :)01:30
aliasfredi rectified the kdedu by kdesu01:30
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snowdriftok01:30
snowdrifthold on01:30
internatok i have a wierd error whenever i open kaffeine and then try to open my dvb card it logs me out and takes me back to the kubuntu login screen01:30
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aliasfredinternat: doesnt seem good :)01:31
misieqRawSewage: i know!01:31
BallistikAre there any good SNES emulators for linux?01:31
misieqit's torsmo! :)01:31
internatobviously.. any suggestions of where to go etc?01:31
aliasfredinternat: hmm i would talk to kaffeine people about it01:32
aliasfredsome seem to be at #kaffeine01:32
misieqfinally tracked it down... now i only have to find a config i want :) oh, and there;s also conky that seems to be what a superkaramba is to karamba01:33
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doppelganger__hey, is there a straight out mute button somewhere in kubuntu?01:38
doppelganger__i'm looking in kmix and don't see it anywhere01:38
internathttp://pastebin.com/775321 <== thats whats in the xorg log when it happens01:38
internatyeah the green light is clickable01:38
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obf213hey my frostwire doesnt work anymore it says i need to upgrade to a new version (which I have) i remember last time i had to choose which java i wanted to you does anyone know how i get there01:39
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doppelganger__nvm, i see, you can right click the icon and mute it01:39
doppelganger__blasted subwoofer must be out  ;(01:40
doppelganger__worked fine before i unplugged it today before a storm hit01:40
doppelganger__must run windows =\01:40
bbeck_join #apache01:40
ootputhi guys, i have the kubuntu 6.06 installation cd. After hearing about the error with the latest xorg patch, i became a bit concerned about the installation. If i were to use the installation cd, and then use the patch-system, would I be stuck as well?01:41
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obf213anyone know how i selcted with java jre i want my computer to use01:43
apexifiedArgh, I upgraded my kernel through apt-get (on my laptop) and it stopped detecting the built in wireless modem... how can I revert back?01:43
ryan_ive got 4 hdd one has my os on it and i have movies and things like that on the others i cant access them.....i keep getting the error "Could not mount device. The reported erroe was: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab how do i fix this01:43
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oallescan i install digikam in UBuntu as a debian package?01:44
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doppelganger__ryan- goto system settings > disks and filesystems01:44
doppelganger__and check it out01:44
snowdriftis there something like roboform for linux?01:44
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obf213!ubout01:46
obf213!java01:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository01:46
bbeck_snowdrift: I don't know roboform, but perhaps you might look at kwallet if you haven't already.01:47
internatsomehow ive managed to break sound, im not sure how, but i have no sound anywhere, now it is apparently not muted. ive checked and yeah01:47
internatany ideas on how to fix it oratleast return it back to default settings01:47
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obf213yo anyone know how i can selcted which java to use01:47
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internatok correction, trying to play any media file in any program results in x crashing01:53
linuxkid2Anyone know anything about XDMCP?01:53
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aliasfredinternat: smell like a bug in the video driver01:56
aliasfredlinuxkid2: no, what is it ?01:56
internatit was working yesterday01:56
linuxkid2aliasfred: XDMCP is a way of logging into a remote computer using an X server and the X protocol.01:57
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linuxkid2!XDMCP01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:57
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aliasfredinternat: so find out what you did since yesterday01:57
snowdrifthow do minimize all windows in kubuntu to get back to the plain desktop?01:58
aliasfredlinuxkid2: hmm usually people use either vnc or nx for that01:58
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misieqsnowdrift: you can add "desktop" aplet to kicker01:58
linuxkid2snowdrift: add the "show desktop" applet to the panel.01:58
snowdriftkicker?01:58
linuxkid2misieq: you beat me.01:58
snowdriftis that the system tray?01:58
snowdrift;-)01:58
misieqyah, it's the panel01:59
linuxkid2the panel on the bottom, toolbar.01:59
D4rklyanyone want to help me install or build darwin streaming server01:59
misieqyet again ;P01:59
linuxkid2Kicker's the program, panel is what it is.01:59
snowdriftoh so much to learn01:59
snowdriftjesus01:59
snowdrifti feel like a child again01:59
internatobviously im trying but im not sure what it is that i have done01:59
linuxkid2it's ok.01:59
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misieqbeing a child is cool, i can tell ;)02:00
linuxkid2aliasfred: I tried VNC but don't like it. I'm just trying to turn a windoze machine on the lan into another terminal, using X02:00
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internat*sighs* looks like im going to copy my apt archive out again, and reinstall02:00
obf213i need help getting frostwire to open02:01
linuxkid2internat: what card, monitor, and driver yah got?02:01
aliasfredlinuxkid2: i think there are nx client for window. nx is much faster that vnc02:01
misieqwhat's the deal with vnc/x? fill me in...02:01
snowdriftwhy dont you just use windows remote terminal over openssh?02:01
internatumm radeon 9600, lg lcd 17" and fglrx02:01
snowdriftthats what i do from work02:01
obf213it used to open after i changed to java choice 3, but now it doesnt open anymore02:01
linuxkid2aliasfred: I don't mind VNC's speed. It just takes over the display instead of getting to KDM login screen when I start, which is what I want.02:01
snowdriftreduce the colors u use02:02
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linuxkid2aliasfred: does NX work the way I want?02:02
snowdriftand turn off all animation02:02
aliasfredlinuxkid2: hmm i think it launch a new X server, so i would say no02:02
jbirdAngelHello, im wondering how big an impact the MHz of a proccessor would have, like how big a difference would be between a 500 mhz, a 1 gig,  and a 1.5?02:03
linuxkid2aliasfred: actually, that might work. I was trying to connect Xming over the network, so only clients run on the connected machine.02:03
ryan_how do i change the premissions of a harddisk02:03
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linuxkid2jbirdAngel: I have 450mhz but it runs so slow occasionally that I want to switch to Xubuntu.02:04
linuxkid2ryan_: I think that's in /etc/fstab02:04
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jbirdAngellinuxkid2: okay thanks, what kind of progs do you run02:04
snowdriftwhere does firefox install by default?02:04
snowdrift;-)02:04
snowdriftany why isnt there a shortcut on the start bar?02:05
linuxkid2jbirdAngel: I have OpenOffice, but KOffice for small stuff cause it's faster. Same with Firefox and Konqueror. The native KDE stuff is always faster.02:05
linuxkid2snowdrift: you want to map the Windows key to the KMenu right? I was wondering too.02:06
linuxkid2I don't know how, does anyone else?02:06
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ryan_linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it02:09
ryan_linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it02:09
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jbirdAngelluxkid2 okay thanks what about trying like gimp and inkscape ?02:11
jbirdAngeldo you know how those work02:11
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linuxkid2jbirdAngel: Gimp and Inkscape work but not if I try loading a huge 20megapixel TIFF or something like that. Inkscape comes on Puppy for heavens sake and is very fst.02:13
jbirdAngellinuxkid2: okay thanks02:13
jbirdAngelthough i dont know what you said about inkscape means02:13
linuxkid2jbirdAngel: Inkscape comes with Puppy, the tiny fast distro for old hardware. It's fast.02:14
jbirdAngeloh okay thanks02:15
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A|i3Nhey - trying to compile something (nmap security scanner) I02:20
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A|i3NI'm getting "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"02:20
A|i3Nso ........... what do i needa grab from the repository hehe02:20
shawncI have a simple question (I think)02:20
shawncI need the source code for the 606 kernel - apparently I don't have it02:21
aliasfred!build02:21
HawkwindA|i3N: Install build-essential02:21
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:21
aliasfredand nmap is likely to be available as pacakge:)02:21
A|i3Nwell it is available as an RPM - does kubuntu have an rpm manager?02:22
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shawncthx02:22
HawkwindA|i3N: Kubuntu uses deb files since it's debian based02:24
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A|i3Nah ok. Thanks02:24
HawkwindA|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap  will install it for you02:25
A|i3Nalready installing the compiler but I guess I can get it that way - probably be easier. Then I guess I need to get the front end too hehe02:26
A|i3Nneed the compiler anyways I'm sure. :)02:26
DaSkreechtry adept :-)02:27
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A|i3NHawkwind - which front end do I want to specify in apt-get for nmap?02:32
A|i3Nthere's two listed in Adept02:33
ryan_im having problems trying to mount a ntfs drive....if some one could help me or point me to a nob friendly tutorial02:33
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omeowHi, can I start a new windowed session in kubuntu?02:34
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Hawkwindomeow: What do you mean exactly ?02:35
HawkwindA|i3N: Just get them both :P02:35
Martijn81ryan_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only02:35
A|i3Nlol ok02:35
ryan_thanks martijin8102:36
A|i3Nthank you Hawkwind. I'm very new to this :) I'm a newly converted windows man ;)02:36
HawkwindA|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap would have done everything for you02:36
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Martijn81ryan_: if you scroll some down you see howto automaticly mount ntfs, but keep in mind that writing to ntfs is not working02:37
A|i3Noh ok - well that's what I did but how do I launch it with the front end? it made no icon02:37
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draikHello everyone02:38
omeowHawkwind, you can click on K=> Switch user => Start new session, but I'd like to know if it's possible to window a new session.02:38
draikWhat are the odds that a motherboard short circuits while you're using it?02:38
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draikCuz I am that 1 in a #02:39
drgonzohello all02:39
draikhello drgonzo02:39
drgonzocan someone point me to a howto on setting up bogofilter with kmail?02:39
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A|i3Ndraik, the odds could be pretty good lol, that's usually when they break, while they're on :)02:39
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draiktrue02:39
draikHere's another... it's a hateway02:40
A|i3Ni'm sorry.02:40
draikso am I02:40
A|i3Nwell the good news is you should be able to replace it with a generic board.02:40
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draikI was working on it02:40
draikthat leads me to my question...02:40
draikwhere can I find a motherboard that supports Celeron 2.0GHz and PC2100 RAM?02:41
draikDunno how many pins on the processor02:41
A|i3Ntry www.pricewatch.com02:41
draikthank you A|i3N02:41
A|i3Nor www.newegg.com02:41
A|i3Nyou can find just about anything on those two02:41
grayghostIs there an apt-get command I can use to get kdevelopment?02:42
A|i3Npricewatch is great though just be careful who you're buying from, it's kinda like ebay and each vendor has feedback02:42
A|i3Nit's not an auction site though. :)02:42
ryan_martijin81: i have music and movies on the drive is there any way i can convert the file system without loosing the data02:42
drgonzoI've installed bogofilter and run the wizard in kmail, but I would like to train it etc02:42
draikA|i3N, how's this for my personal monitor?  http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_center/press_rel/2006/extio_f1400.cfm02:43
Hawkwindgrayghost: sudo apt-get install kdevelop302:43
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Hawkwind!info kdevelop302:43
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB02:43
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draikor maybe just this one... http://www.matrox.com/graphics/offhome/th2go/home.cfm02:45
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omeowHow do I make a screenshot of kdm?02:45
A|i3Ni really can't tell ya much about monitors personally02:46
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A|i3Nthat's pretty dang cool though lol02:46
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Hawkwinddraik: I doubt that would work with Linux though :(02:48
jbirdAngelim gonna go02:49
jbirdAngel 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9 KJV02:49
jbirdAngelbye now02:49
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A|i3N*decided he doesn't like nmap and removes it* lol02:49
A|i3NHey.. if I installed something... and I want to remove it.. like Internet explorer running on wine... is it just a matter of deleting the directory?02:50
A|i3Nor do i needa follow the proper removal proceedure like in windows02:50
HawkwindAsk the experts in #WineHQ02:50
draikA|i3N, how do I find out the pin-type of a 2.0GHz Intel Celeron?02:50
A|i3Nlemme look02:51
A|i3Ni've been outta the repair business for a while02:51
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grayghostI have tried the command  sudo apt-get install kdevelop     .... and get message not available   .... help.02:52
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Hawkwindgrayghost: I told you the command to use:  sudo apt-get install kdevelop3   It has to have the 3 at the end02:52
grayghostthat did not work either.02:52
Hawkwindgrayghost: You also need to make sure you have the universe repo setup02:53
Hawkwind!repos > grayghost02:53
HawkwindFollow what the bot just told you in pm then02:53
A|i3Ndraik: should be socket 47802:53
draiksure?02:53
draikright you are02:53
draikA|i3N, correct02:53
draiksorry, no prize02:53
A|i3Nwhy for is the java on the pricewatch page freezing the browser.. heh..02:54
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grayghostuniverse prpos ???02:54
Hawkwindgrayghost: Please read what the bot told you in PM02:55
linuxkid2_How do I enable OpenSSH?02:55
A|i3Ndraik what kind of RAM do you have again?02:55
Hawkwindlinuxkid2_: sudo apt-get install ssh02:55
grayghostthanks I will give up now02:55
yeager_test02:55
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Hawkwindyeager_: Failed!02:55
linuxkid2_k02:55
Hawkwindgrayghost: Give up ?02:55
A|i3Ndraik: here's the site for the 478 boards on pricewatch http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboards/263725-1.htm02:55
ryan_how do i format a drive02:55
otishello all02:56
linuxkid2_Hawkwind: is that the daemon? or the client and daemon?02:56
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Hawkwindlinuxkid2_: Both.  When you install it, it will start it for you automatically02:56
linuxkid2_k02:56
draikPC2100 RAM02:56
draikPC2100U02:56
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draikA|i3N, PC2100, DDR 184-pin02:58
A|i3Ndraik: http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=P8F176&Category_Code=Motherboards02:58
garretIs there a newer version of shockwave than 7 out, many web pages want version 9?02:58
A|i3Nthat board should work for you02:58
Hawkwindgarret: No02:58
otisnot yet02:58
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Hawkwindgarret: Flash 9 won't be available for linux until after the first of the year02:59
garretHawkwind: shame :(02:59
A|i3Nsupports 2100, and socket 478 processors up to 3.x ghz02:59
A|i3NBUT it's mini-itx - not sure that'll fit the case so ... be careful... hehe..02:59
garretDoes anyone know of a good place to buy "white box" laptops at a good price?03:00
A|i3Nactually, looking at it, it has no expansion slots.. nevermind.. scratch that one..03:00
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shane_hey I installed nvidia drivers how do I know I have 3D support? Is there a command to get some info?03:04
Hawkwindglxinfo | grep render03:04
shane_direct rendering yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 4000/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!03:05
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otaku-sanhey got a Krita question... does anyone know the channel?03:06
otaku-sanThinking about going to the Gimp....03:06
otaku-san!DaSkreech03:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DaSkreech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:07
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DaSkreechDamn Skippy. Keep big Brother out of my stuff!!03:08
otaku-sanDaSkreech: whoa man!  whats that all up for?03:08
linuxkid2_I got these errors when trying to run an aptitude installation. Installation worked, but this just seems wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2160603:09
laniushowto login with xdmcp and kdm?03:10
A|i3Nok ... I got a really stupid question ...................... how do i check how much disk space i have left?03:10
laniusKDiskFree03:11
otaku-sanA|i3N: not really a stupid question....use QTparted03:11
otaku-san......or that03:11
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DaSkreechotaku-san: Well I'd have been a bit perturbed if you asked ubotu about me and it responded well her real name is ..  choice of occupation is ... would you like an address?03:12
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otaku-sanDaSkreech:  .....it can do that....  Sorry man....was just checking something...not about you...I was trying that thing where it finds where they are in the channels...Jeez gave me a hard attack03:14
vblantonNickGarvey:03:15
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A|i3Nthanx :)03:15
BallistikAre there any good SNES emulators for linux?03:16
vblantonhell yes03:16
vblantonsnes9x is one03:16
A|i3NGOD i love linux.. i want software.. go to adept, search for it, boom, i got software.. lol..03:16
A|i3Nmuch easier then windows now that i think about it.03:16
vblantonA|i3N: it's awesome :)03:16
A|i3Nstill figuring it out, it's kinda like learning DOS again but hey i can learn.03:17
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vblantonBallistik: look in Add/Remove for zsnes, snes9express, or GSnes9x (just search for snes)03:17
laniusxdmcp login dont work, can you help me?03:17
vblantonxdmcp is it enables on both ends?03:18
laniusyes03:18
vblantonHmm.. kdm or gdm?03:18
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laniuskdm03:18
Zaphar_psI always had better success using GDM for xdmcp03:19
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Zaphar_psthe setup seemed easier to me03:19
vblantonSorry, I haven't actually ever used it. The one time I messed around with it it *just worked*.03:19
Ballistikvblanton: Thanks03:19
linuxkid2_GDM has a graphical XDMCP setup, kdm must be done with text files.03:19
linuxkid2_I think03:19
simon__hi guys quick question ive just put together a Pentium D system which version of Ubuntu do i get power pc 64 or alternative 64 or desktop 64?03:19
vblantontry searching on the wiki/forums for xdmcp03:19
laniusdone... :)03:20
vblantonsimon__: Pentium D isn't 64 bit, is it?03:20
simon__yep03:20
linuxkid2_vblanton: how about windows Cygwin connect XDMCP to Kubuntu03:20
linuxkid2_?03:20
vblantonsimon__: well then I would try the desktop 6403:20
vblantonsimon__: powerpc is only for mac's. they use the PPC architecture. alternative is for OEM setups.03:21
vblantonlinuxkid2_: dunno, never trie03:21
vblantond03:21
linuxkid2_oh, well, gotta look elsewhere then. It's what I want to use but everyone says here to use something else.03:21
vblantonlanius: see if anyone in ubuntu has done it, also try gdm, if you have no luck. Sorry I can't help :(03:22
Zaphar_pslinuxkid2_: I always used vnc to connect with xdmcp to my linux box03:22
simon__cool thanks for that03:22
Zaphar_pswhy are you wanting to use cygwin03:22
Zaphar_psnever mind he left03:22
vblantoncygwin wouldn't work for that.. I don't tink03:23
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vblantonI would use a virtual system within windows if he wanted that.03:23
simon__whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?03:23
vblantonanyone know why the fonts are messed up when I upgrade to kde 3.5.4?03:23
vblantonand/or how to fix it?03:23
Zaphar_psvblanton: theoretically it would work but it's more work than just a VNC connection03:24
vblantonright03:24
ryan_what would be the easest way to use my ntfs hard drives03:24
vblanton*theoretically*03:24
vblantonryan_: there is a guide online.. let me get the link..03:24
ryan_vblaton...thanks03:25
linuxkid2I STILL want XDMCP. Using X over SSH but XDMCP would be faster. Using 100Mbps LAN so don't need NX03:25
DaSkreechotaku-san: You mean whois?03:26
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otaku-sanDaSkreech: Yeah....sorry for doing that again03:26
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DaSkreechYeah I was just ramping with the Overlords :)03:26
Zaphar_pslinuxkid2: VNC will connect to xdmcp when configured right on the host machine It's significanly easier than ssh or cygwin03:27
otaku-sanDaSkreech: Overlords?????03:27
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Zaphar_psand fairly snappy too03:27
DaSkreech:-)03:27
vblantonryan_: http://www.lifehacker.com/software/top/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php03:27
vblantonryan_: scroll down to read/write NTFS support03:27
ryan_vblanton: thanks03:28
vblantonnp03:28
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linuxkid2Zaphar_ps: how do I do that? when I use KDE's VNC stuff, it just kind of takes over the current user, instead of loging in on a new terminal in the background.03:29
lanius"udp6       0      0 :::177                  :::* " .............udp6 ?03:29
vblantonlanius: nice03:30
Zaphar_pslinuxkid2: one sec I'll get the link for a setup instructions03:30
vblantonlanius: informative03:30
linuxkid2thanks03:30
vblantonlanius: profound03:30
laniuswhat is udp6??03:30
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vblantondunnoo03:32
vblantonbye bye everybody03:33
simon__whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?   sorry to be a pain03:33
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otaku-sanhey if I were to put in "gimp" for an sudo apt-get install....would The Gimp be installed....just checking cuz' it looks like it wants to just install a bunch of packs03:33
linuxkid2desktop has the liveCD and that, but alternative has more install options03:33
Jucatootaku-san: yes03:34
linuxkid2otaku-san: gimp needs a milliion dependancies. but just "gimp" gets you the stuff.03:34
Jucatowell, not a million... just a hundred :-D03:34
Jucato^_^03:34
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linuxkid2not much diff03:34
otaku-sanheheh I figured...remembers some odd forum entry saying this...thanks03:34
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Jucatootaku-san: I think you have to install the gimp-help package(s) separately03:35
linuxkid2Maybe, check packages.ubuntu.com03:36
otaku-sanJucato: ahhh...ok I'll put that in after this install and see if it does anything03:37
SeanTaterlanius: ipv6--udp ?03:37
vblantonsimon__: alternative is for OEM installs.. like replicating the same install on multiple machines. or for doing a system update. don't use it normally.03:37
Zaphar_pshrmmm I couldn't find my original link for some reason but this one should be applicable03:37
Zaphar_pshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564&highlight=vnc+gnome03:37
otaku-sanJucato: I wanted to change cause Krita is responding to my pen real slow...and I have stuff on getting Gimp to work.03:38
linuxkid2thanks03:38
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DaSkreechotaku-san: Hang around the paranoid long enough and you'll catch on03:39
simon__thanks guys for the tips :)03:39
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internatsince ihave more then one sound card in my computer how do i set what the default one is>03:41
otaku-sanDaSkreech: Hahaha!  I'll try03:41
crimsuninternat: asoundconf set-default-card03:41
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crimsuninternat: use the output from asoundconf list03:42
internaterr what if it says it doesnt find any cards?03:42
internatyet kmix does?03:42
GameOver69hey guys i cant install libtunepimp3-mp3... this is the error i get any idea how i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2160703:42
crimsun``asoundconf list'' says it can't find anything?03:42
internatyeah it says names of available ccards: and then has nothing03:43
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Zaphar_pscrimsun: have you tried uninstalling libtunepimp3?03:44
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, yes03:44
otaku-sanJucato: gimp-help-en03:44
GameOver69but it wont install without that file... and it installs that file first03:44
Zaphar_psehhh whoops wrong nick :-)03:44
Jucatootaku-san: yep, if you want the english docs :-D03:44
crimsunZaphar_ps: eh?03:45
crimsuninternat: what does /proc/asound/cards list?03:45
Zaphar_psGameOver69: looks like maybe a package bug look on the buglist and see if it has any bugs associated with.03:45
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, any idea on how i can get this working... cause without it i cant get musicbrainz working03:45
linuxkid2Zaphar_ps: this is for GDM. Instructions for GDM don't work withe kdm03:45
Zaphar_psGameOver69 have you run an update?03:46
GameOver69yes03:46
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alex_hi03:46
Zaphar_pslinuxkid2: in a pinch you could install gdm instead of kdm both will work with kde03:46
Zaphar_psand actually I kind of prefer gdm myself :-)03:47
alex_I am trying to copy something to /usr/share/Wallpapers03:47
alex_but I am being denied access03:47
alex_what gives?03:47
Zaphar_psalex_: use sudo?03:47
saltrokubuntu spain ?03:47
internat1 sec its just rebooting ill check03:47
Jucato!sudo03:47
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:47
GameOver69i also get this error everytime i update/install a package in show details of adept http://pastebin.com/77538203:47
Jucato!es03:47
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:47
saltroplease03:47
GameOver69but it still installs stuff03:47
saltrogod thanks03:47
alex_Zaphar_ps: I added the sudo modification so that I am not asked for it everytime03:48
linuxkid2Zaphar_ps: well, I don't really prefer either. but I don't want to hack my system that hard for something that should be simple and part of how the system works.03:48
Zaphar_psGameOver69: that error can be ignored if you want to fix it you can install the debconf kde stuff03:49
alex_either way, permission is denied even with sudo03:49
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GameOver69Zaphar_ps, i have those packages installed though03:50
internati have 3 cards in proc/asound/cards03:50
GameOver69debconf, debutils, etc03:50
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internatthe built in card (which has been disabled in the bios yet still shows up) the pci card (which i want) and the audio out on the tv card03:50
Ash-Fox!ati03:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
otaku-sanJucato: Yeah!  heheh03:50
alex_Zaphar_ps: permission is denied nevertheless03:51
Zaphar_psalex03:51
Zaphar_psalex_: can you run sudo su?03:51
Zaphar_psand then see who owns the folder?03:51
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alex_Zaphar_ps: it worked03:52
alex_Zaphar_ps: But how do I prevent this from happening, I want unrestricted access to everything without typing my password03:53
otaku-sanJucato: wow....is Gimp a culture shock for me or what....I normally use PS on windoze...then Krita which is like PaintShop Pro....then this....whatever it is ;)03:53
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, what do i do if i have those files installed?03:53
Jucatootaku-san: the GIMP is... unique :-D03:54
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otaku-sanJucato: in true Linux fashion03:54
Zaphar_psalex_: I don't know I've never done the sudo mod your talking about03:54
linuxkid2otaku-san I like it. I've used it on windows for about 6 months and now it's what I use.03:54
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Jucatootaku-san: you might want to try the GIMPshop. it behaves more like Photoshop. I just don't know where to get it/how to install it. it's not in the repos03:54
alex_Zaphar_ps: ok, thanks anyway03:54
Zaphar_psGameOver69: I'm not sure it looks like you may have a corrupted package db03:54
Zaphar_pscan you run aptitude?03:55
otaku-sanJucato: have you used it?03:55
GameOver69whats that?03:55
Jucatonope03:55
linuxkid2yeah, I tried running GIMPShop on windows once, but it kind of didn't like my normal GIMP03:55
JucatoI prefer to learn GIMP, the hard way :-D03:55
GameOver69whatever it is im running it now03:55
linuxkid2Yeah, the main thing that GIMPShop has is one window and more normal menus.03:55
Zaphar_psGameOver69: its a command line package manager03:55
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Jucatohi Hobbsee ^_^03:56
otaku-sanlinuxkid2: yeah I've heard good things about it...where did you get GIMPShop?03:56
Zaphar_pssee if you can run it in a terminal by typing sudo aptitude03:56
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GameOver69Zaphar_ps, its up and loaded all of the cache03:56
GameOver69now what03:56
Zaphar_psdoes it have anything at the top about broken packages?03:56
otaku-sanJucato: I think I'll try the Manual....I learned PS the hard way....not fun03:56
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, no03:57
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Zaphar_pshit /03:57
Jucatootaku-san: one thing that's good about the GIMP is that there are a lot of guides for it. A quick Google search will be fruitful03:57
GameOver69ok and search for what03:57
Zaphar_psand then type the name of the package your trying to install in the box and hit enter03:57
Zaphar_psit should take you directly to it03:57
linuxkid2gimp-print works great with Epson inkjets03:58
Zaphar_pshit the + key to mark it for install03:58
Zaphar_psand then look to see if it has anything about broken packages at the top again03:58
otaku-sanJucato: ok, but first thing I want to learn from you is......Where is the main canvas!??!!?!  All I have are two windows with just the stuff like brushes and things....03:59
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oslohow change the logon screen aspect ratio ??03:59
Jucatootaku-san: it will open in a separate window :-D03:59
linuxkid2file=>new something like that03:59
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, i dont see it saying anythign03:59
Zaphar_psotaku-san: choose file->new03:59
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Zaphar_psGameOver69: hit g to install and see if it lets you do it04:00
linuxkid2where can I get midnight commander?04:00
otaku-sanAhh figured that out just as you wrote back04:00
Jucatolol04:00
Zaphar_psyou may have to hit it more than once04:00
otaku-sanThanks guys04:00
Jucatootaku-san: I think the GIMP resembles what Photoshop looks like on a Mac04:00
JucatoI mean the interface/windows04:00
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, shows me a list of  packages being deleted due to unsatisfied dependencies04:01
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otaku-sanJucato: I think your right....blame those blaphemous Mac users for doing the abnormal...or maybe it's us Linux users who do that?04:01
Zaphar_psGameOver69: are any of them the packages you had trouble with?04:02
SpAwNtheres actualy a hack of gimp called photogimp thats supposed to be more lik ephotoshop04:02
linuxkid2is midnight commander or some other CLI file manager available?04:02
GameOver69just the debconf04:02
GameOver69but the libtunepimp still wont install04:02
otaku-sanJucato: no offence to Mac users....if I had a Mac...ohhhh the possibilitys *starts dreaming of having to boxes...one a mac...the other linux04:02
Jucatolol04:03
Jucatootaku-san: I might actually one of the very few who actually like the GIMP's interface :-D04:03
linuxkid2Very customizable, I say. That's the only reason I like it.04:03
Jucatothanks to window shading (Windows doesn't have this, right?) it's not so difficult to keep it uncluttered04:03
linuxkid2If I had to stay with the defualts, ohh :-(04:03
GameOver69Zaphar_ps, could it be a problem iwht the os... i just upgraded to edgy?04:04
linuxkid2hey, I have this neat little util that shades windows in Windows.04:04
Zaphar_psGameOver69: well that's the limit of what I can recommend if you contact the package maintainer he might be able to give some insight04:04
Zaphar_psif you just upgraded to edgy it's probably a bug04:04
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Zaphar_psedgy is still pretty unstable04:05
otaku-sanJucato: heheh I just might start liking it too...I've always loved the different.  And it looks pretty sweet.04:05
GameOver69yeah i know... but i always like the enwest sutff :)04:05
Nerevarhello... i downloaded kubuntu 6.06 dvd iso, and i have a question04:05
Nerevari need to install linuxant for my linksys wireless g card04:06
Jucatootaku-san: the names of the tools and the keyboard shortcut just get a bit of getting used to. and the layers...04:06
Nerevari go to the page and am presented with these options:04:06
Nerevarhttps://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php04:06
Zaphar_psotaku-san: I always liked Gimp04:06
Nerevaras i cannot access the internet without the wireless card, i would like to know which i will need in advance04:06
linuxkid2Is there a file manager that acts like Aptitude?04:06
Zaphar_psotaku-san: you might check out cinepaint too if you  like higher color ranges04:06
otaku-sanJucato: can it change to CMYB?04:07
JucatoCMYK?04:07
linuxkid2otaku-san: that's CMYK, B means Blue04:07
otaku-sank.....sorry...brain on slow....04:07
otaku-sank I meant k04:07
Nerevarcan someone tell me what kernel version will install with that dvd download? thanks.04:08
Jucatoone thing the GIMP still lacks is native CMYK support... there are plugins though...04:08
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Zaphar_psI see Xara has released a functional version of Xara Xstream for linux :-)04:08
Zaphar_psyippee04:08
DaSkreechZaphar_ps: Open source?04:08
Zaphar_psDaSkreech: yes04:08
JucatoDaSkreech: yeah04:08
linuxkid2Heck, half of GIMP's functionality is either plug-ins or script-fu04:08
JucatoXara LX04:08
Zaphar_psI'm using it now and it's pretty sweet04:08
otaku-sanJucato: ok I'm getting those....I'll probably need to go through it and do alot of plugins....04:08
Zaphar_psbit of a learning curve though04:09
DaSkreechSeriously?04:09
Jucatolinuxkid2: but something as basic as RGB and CMYK should be built-in04:09
DaSkreechWas Xara always open source?04:09
JucatoDaSkreech: yes04:09
linuxkid2yes, true04:09
JucatoDaSkreech: no04:09
Nerevarok. thanks. ill just download all of these and see what happens.04:09
Jucatonot always04:09
Jucatoit was just recent04:09
Jucatoa few months ago04:09
Zaphar_psDaSkreech: no they just recently went open source04:09
otaku-sanJucato: I'll install Inkscape later....right now I'm getting off04:09
otaku-sanSee ya04:09
Zaphar_psfirst a library and now the whole app04:09
DaSkreechZaphar_ps: They are walking the blender path?04:10
Jucatobut Xara is a different kind of graphics app. It's a vector graphics app. Much like Inkscape04:10
Zaphar_psDaSkreech: perhaps04:10
DaSkreechHmm Schweet04:10
Zaphar_psthe windows version is still commercial though no OSS04:10
Zaphar_psbut who knows what they'll do04:10
linuxkid2I like inkscape actually. It's forte is drawings and logos and stuff. web standards too.04:10
Jucatoor anything SVG/vector graphics04:11
Zaphar_psXara is more for professional design like Illustrator.04:11
linuxkid2well, I can't get OOo Draw to do SVG. Is Xara SVG?04:11
JucatoI'm still trying to get familiar with how to do colors in vector graphics04:11
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Zaphar_psXara will export svg yes04:11
Zaphar_psand import too04:12
linuxkid2I may try it.04:12
JucatoSVG is a file format...04:12
linuxkid2is it the multiverse repo?04:12
JucatoDaSkreech: for your reading pleasure: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/04:12
Zaphar_psno you have to download from the website04:12
Zaphar_psno debian package as of yet I don't think04:12
Jucatooh, it's no longer called Xara LX. it's Xara Xtreme for Linux04:12
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alex_I downloaded some themes from kde-look.org04:13
Jucatoseems like there's a .tar.gz download and an Autopackage installer04:13
linuxkid2is it a cooking with linux five step? or some kind of binary package or AutoPackage?04:13
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edgarinHi to all04:13
alex_the files have the .deb extension04:13
alex_how do I install them?04:13
Zaphar_psJucato: use the autopackage one it's easier04:13
linuxkid2oh, there's my answer04:13
Jucatoalex_: this link is for you04:13
JucatoWhat are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=304:14
linuxkid2deb files? right click and install.04:14
alex_Jucato: thx04:14
intelikeyok.  i think i actually need help here to salvage this install.   can anyone walk me through a rebuild of dpkg ?04:14
intelikeypackage manager is fubar04:14
intelikey?04:14
Zaphar_psoooh that ones beyond me04:15
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intelikeyi've tried apt-get install -f     dpkg --configure -a    aptitude    everything errors out with  "there were too many errors to count"04:16
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DaSkreechZaphar_ps: Huh Can't you just compile the OSS on windows?04:17
Zaphar_psI once fixed a fubared db by spending an hour in aptitude fixing broken packages04:17
Zaphar_psDaSkreech: sure if you want I guess04:17
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gnomefreakintelikey: what errors (give 2 or 3) and what ubuntu version04:18
linuxkid2bye bye04:18
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Jucatohi claydoh!04:18
Zaphar_psDaSkreech: oh wait no there is no windows source to compile you might be able to get it to compile on cygwin but I don't know.04:18
draikHawkwind: Here is the 4-way monitors supported for Linux... http://www.matrox.com/mga/corp/financial/products/qidlp.cfm04:20
Jucatodraik: hmm.....04:20
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intelikeydapper  1.dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):   2.subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1    and on and on and on....04:20
intelikeydpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libpam0g:04:21
intelikeydpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libselinux1:04:21
intelikey libselinux1 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1); however:04:21
intelikey  Package libc6 is not configured yet.04:21
Jucatointelikey: pastebin?04:21
alex_Jucato: unfortunately it doesn't answer any questions on .deb packages04:22
Jucatoor you don't have X?04:22
alex_Jucato: also, I cannot find the program kdmtheme04:22
intelikeyJucato hehe i wish.   i'm cnrooted in right now cause it wont even boot04:22
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intelikeychrooted that is.04:22
Hawkwinddraik: Heh, that's pretty kewl, but a bit too expensive for me04:23
Jucatoalex_: well, you basically just have to install that .deb file. it's probably a widget Style04:23
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alex_Jucato: question is, how do I install it?04:23
intelikeygnomefreak  ?04:23
draikI would get it and I know that I would not see the world for quite a while... aside from the size04:23
BallistikAnyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?04:23
gnomefreakintelikey: you have errors?04:23
gnomefreakoh nm04:23
claydohhi Jucato04:23
gnomefreaki see them and ar eyou on dapper or edgy?04:24
Jucatoalex_: either right-click on it in Konqueror and choose "Kubuntu Package Menu > Install Package" or in the command line "sudo dpkg -i <.deb file name>"04:24
intelikeyi answered that too    dapper04:24
alex_Jucato: greatly appreciated, I will try that now04:24
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intelikeygnomefreak 60604:25
gnomefreakintelikey: sudo dpkg --configure libc6 let me know what it does04:25
gnomefreakintelikey: libc6 needs to be configured before anything else04:26
intelikeydpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):04:26
intelikey subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:26
gnomefreakwait a min04:26
BallistikAnyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?04:26
gnomefreakintelikey: thats the wrong version of libc6 for dapper04:26
HawkwindBallistik: No need to repeat yourself04:26
HawkwindBallistik: You can however search on packages.ubuntu.com04:26
gnomefreak2.3.6-0ubuntu20  is dappers libc604:26
intelikeyit came from the repos04:27
naliothBallistik: apt-cache search n6404:27
intelikeyit is 2.3.6-0ubuntu2004:27
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secleinteerdoes any1 know where i can enter a command that i want to run on every login?04:27
Zaphar_psSweet the Xara bitmap tracer is pretty nice04:27
intelikeygnomefreak tty1 [root@/]  dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb04:28
intelikeySetting up libc6 (2.3.6-0ubuntu20) ...04:28
intelikeydpkg: error processing libc6 (--install):04:28
intelikey subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:28
gnomefreakintelikey: is dapper fully installed? or did the install stop?04:28
intelikeybeen working for months04:28
gnomefreakand did this start by an update?04:29
intelikeyyup04:29
intelikeyfirst update.  and it wanted to update over 100 packages04:29
gnomefreakintelikey: was libc6 part of that update?04:29
intelikeyso i let it.   yep04:30
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gnomefreakim almost thinking of force the configure (but i never said that) and im not asking you to do it04:30
intelikeytried that  it wont work04:30
gnomefreakintelikey: ok you only have tty?04:30
intelikey--force-all     yes consoel04:31
intelikeyle04:31
gnomefreakintelikey: you tried sudo dpkg -i --force-all path yougave me04:31
intelikeyyep04:31
intelikeystill errors our04:31
intelikeyi tried every thing i could think of.04:31
intelikeyall the same.04:32
intelikeysomeone drop me the url for a known working package of  "libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb"    let me ld and try that.04:33
intelikeyit could be a broken dl or something04:33
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intelikeyor later if there is a later version04:34
intelikeyanyone someone ?04:34
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Jucatoclaydoh: hey you're right about the dcoprss package being needed for KNewsTicker (not KNode) to show up in Kontact's Summary View04:35
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claydohhttp://packages.ubuntu.com04:36
profoXPhey I installed kubuntu-desktop right -- I used gtk-qt engine -- and now my GNOME theme is messed up and I can't change it -- it crashes on every gtk app04:36
profoXPhow do I disable it..04:36
intelikeyclaydoh you know that one to be good ?   and i need the full url  i'm very limited on what can run right now04:36
JucatoprofoXP: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts ??04:37
profoXPJucato: yea and then what.. where's the option to disable it :P04:37
claydohdunno, jut the place to search for official debs04:37
JucatoprofoXP: set it the style to use one of GNOME's themes/styles04:38
Jucatolike Human04:38
claydohI am on crap dialuop and the pages take too long to load04:38
intelikeysearching is out of the question.    and installing a text based browser is hehhe  kinda the point.   dpkg is hosed04:38
claydohso I stopped trying the search04:38
gnomefreakintelikey: try sudo apt-get remove libc604:38
bimberiintelikey: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb04:38
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gnomefreakintelikey: and than install it over again or go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it04:38
intelikeygnomefreak did that it hangs the system04:38
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intelikeybimberi ty wgetting04:39
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gnomefreakintelikey: the removal or the installing hung system?04:39
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intelikeygnomefreak when you remove libc nothing works.04:40
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gnomefreakdont quote me on this but im thinking dpkg isnt gonna configure the one you are grabbing with the one still in dpkg04:40
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intelikeythe new package had already over written the /lib/libc* and the forced removal of it renders the system shell less and app less.04:41
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gnomefreaksob04:41
intelikeyi might be able to use something like mc and execute that it might keep the data in ram while it's still running making it possable to install the new.     if mc is installed04:42
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intelikeyeeek skratch that04:43
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gnomefreakintelikey: i am not seeing a safe way around it04:43
gnomefreakthem: can you please stop changing nicks so often04:43
intelikeythis is looking more and more like the only hope is a full reload.04:44
Stuart_hey people... im running an amd64 kubuntu and i am trying to install Eternal Lands04:44
themwhoopsy04:44
gnomefreakintelikey: libc6 is a main lib and thats what scares me about this04:44
Stuart_I am having some trouble with missing libs from lib3204:44
Stuart_like libopenal.so.004:44
themso indecisive... forgot it still shows on the other channels04:44
intelikeyyep it's a system hoser04:45
Stuart_can i install this libs without using debootstrap ?04:45
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gnomefreakStuart_: more than likely install yes run no04:45
actinicis this the windows xp forum?04:45
gnomefreakStuart_: lib32 is for 32bit you can run them in chroot but thats all i know of04:45
actinic:)04:45
gnomefreakactinic: nope try #3windows04:45
gnomefreak-304:46
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Stuart_there are some ia32-libs into adept...04:46
Jucatolol04:46
intelikeyas soon as this dl is finished i'll diff the two packages....04:46
Stuart_they help me a lot04:46
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actiniclol04:46
gnomefreakStuart_: yes you can install them but you cant use them without a chroot if im not mistaken04:46
Stuart_i am running wine just with them04:47
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Jucatowb claydoh! I bet you can't wait to get a that DSL connection ^_^04:48
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josh__does this version of ubuntu have a easysources webpage also?04:49
josh__!easysources04:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:49
josh__woot woot04:49
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claydohno, I just *love* waiting minutes and minutes for images to load :(04:50
Jucatoclaydoh: when's it coming btw?04:50
josh__get cable ;P04:50
profoXPJucato: apparantly that doesnt work -- hold on bbl04:51
claydohsoon, a week or 204:51
claydohcable, bah!04:51
claydohI have sat tv, why get cable?04:51
Jucatolol04:52
josh__cuz of the cable internet04:52
Jucatothat's why he's getting DSL... @_@04:52
josh__dsl sucks04:52
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intelikeylooks like a hopeless case.   that's another strike against dpkg    i realize anything has it's limits, but this is rediculess04:53
unix_infidel does anyone know if religious institutions get special deals with electronics companies or whether they are tax exempt?04:53
actinicmy dsl:  1.5 down/800 up04:53
josh__are u cgoing to start a church for free software?04:53
josh__my cable 6 meg down 2 meg up04:53
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intelikeythey diff the same looks like "if it's a bad package" i got the same one both times.04:54
actinic... for $21/month04:54
josh__course its costs 120 a month... but its worth it :)04:54
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claydohmy last dsl was 5/204:55
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josh__brb, gotta update my sources.list04:55
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gregr#ubuntu04:55
claydohbut I must pinch pennies and go with 1 mb04:55
intelikeyjosh__ nothing highspeed but satilite here.   but dialup is cheep $7./month04:55
DaSkreechWe can get 1MB for about 600 dollars04:55
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actinicwow, $120/mth for cable ... mucho expensivo04:56
actinici don't care what the up/dl speed is04:56
Jucatowe're gonna get scolded again for going off-topic... lol04:57
actinicgetting back on topic <cough> nice blog on installing rpm's using alien: https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/04:58
intelikeyyeah 1t up/down wouldnt help slow hardware04:58
intelikey!offtopic04:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:58
actinic!windows04:58
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:58
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)04:58
claydoh!dsl04:58
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE04:58
claydohthere04:58
claydoh!dialup04:58
Jucatolol04:58
actiniclol04:58
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto04:58
actinic!cable04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
actinicoops04:59
Jucatohahahaha04:59
claydohlol!!!04:59
claydohthee you go04:59
actinicguess cable sucks04:59
Jucato^_^04:59
actinic:)04:59
Jucatogrr... need to grab something to eat... brb04:59
josh__lol05:00
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josh__thats because its so easy you dont need a manul05:00
josh__:P05:00
josh__you click firefox and up it goes05:00
josh__lol05:00
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josh__ok im out guys (gotta set this new server up)05:02
josh__cya later05:02
actinichey, any u guys read tux magazine?05:02
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Jucatome... but I have read only up to issue 305:04
Jucatobut I have the latest (I think)05:04
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intelikeyi see one error in the libc6 post install script it's bash and not sh   who the hell keeps doing that !05:05
Nerevari can't get kubuntu to start05:05
DaSkreechNerevar: Some more info?05:06
Nerevari put the live cd, boot up, and it hangs at mounting drive05:06
actinicJucato, i've got all the magazines indexed.  bottom of 1st post: http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php/topic,1714.0.html05:06
Nerevarthen, after i wait about 4 minutes or 6 minutes, it says the drive is confused and spams it over and over again infinitely05:06
actinicplus u can dl them from my ftp server05:06
Jucatoactinic: I have them all but haven't read them all :-D05:06
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Jucatocome January, our free subscription ends...05:06
intelikeyand i can't fix the script cause it over writes it each time it tries to run it   i chattr -i 'd it and it errors out on cant over write.....05:06
intelikeypeace of krap.05:06
Jucato...05:07
actinicJucato  yep, fortunately $9 a yr isn't bad05:07
Jucatoactinic: unfortunately, I don't know of a way I could send in the payment...05:07
Dr_Willis!limewire05:07
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:07
Jucato!frostwire05:08
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:08
actinicJucato, why?  diff country?05:08
Dr_WillisI keep thionking 'frostfire'05:08
Dr_Willis:)05:08
Jucatoehehe05:08
Nerevarso i'm at a loss what to do05:08
Nerevarthe live cd wont start05:08
Jucatoactinic: yep. philippines. now PayPal for us... (and my mom won't let me use her debit card)05:08
actinicgotcha05:09
Dr_WillisNerevar,   could try some other live cd's see if its affecting all of them05:09
actinicNerevar, u sure the disk isn't corrupted?05:09
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Nerevardoubt it, burned it with an expensive burner05:09
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DaSkreechhaha :)05:10
DaSkreechLIke expensive cars don't crash05:10
Dr_Willis!java05:10
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:10
DaSkreechWhen it starts it should give you the option to do a CD test05:10
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actinicburner doesn't necessarily matter, the media might05:10
DaSkreech might be worth the time to run it05:10
Nerevarthe media is shit, i admit05:10
JucatoDr_Willis: If you're going to install Java, don't use Adept (but I doubt you use that anyway...)05:10
actinici've seen plextors that couldn't burn squat due to major media suckage05:10
Nerevari will try one more time05:11
actinictry burning at a lower speed05:11
intelikeyi think i did something....05:11
Nerevarok05:11
actinicalso md5sum the iso to make sure the file isn't corrupt05:11
Dr_WillisJucato,  i couldent rember the url to the    sudo update-alternatives --config java   command i needed. :P05:11
Jucatoa combination of the ISO (md5sum), media (CD-R/RW), the device (burner), and the burning itself affects the output of a LiveCD05:11
Dr_Williswhich fixed the problem. :)05:11
JucatoDr_Willis: aaah ^)_^05:12
intelikeythis may be the fix to the hangup.    it's not the ubuntu way, i know.   but i think it worked.   "apt-get -f remove & until never ;do rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst ;done  "05:13
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fyyrest0rmhi guys..is xinerama necessary with kubuntu/kde?05:13
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Jucatofyyrest0rm: I think only if you're using multiple monitors?05:14
fyyrest0rmtrying to get WoW to work a bit better, been reading that xinerama may be causing some of the performance problem..just wondering if getting rid of it will bork anything05:14
fyyrest0rmjucato: nope..one monitor05:14
Jucatoit's not a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, that's for sure05:14
fyyrest0rmjucato: which means uninstalling it will bork x then?05:15
Jucatono. I said it was NOT a dependency. meaning kubuntu is not dependent on it. that's as far as I know05:15
fyyrest0rmjucato: i'm sorry..read it wrong lol05:15
fyyrest0rmanyone know of a way to turn it off without uninstalling it?05:16
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intelikeywell i'm past one hurtle.  but not out of the woods.05:18
intelikeyit'd be quicker to reload.05:19
intelikeysomebody tell me to reload.05:19
fyyrest0rmreload :)05:20
Nerevarok... burned at 16x05:20
Nerevarif this doesnt work im done for tonight05:20
JucatoNerevar: that's the slowest speed that you can burn?05:20
Nerevarthere was 8x, but im impatient05:21
Nerevaranyways, here goes05:21
Jucato @_@05:21
ryan_im having problems editing my sources.list ....i keep gitting the error "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list."05:22
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actinichmm, 'why I don't like kubuntu': http://www.superquest.net/blogs/05:22
Jucatoryan_: you need to have administrator priviliges to edit that file05:23
Jucato!sudo05:23
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:23
DaSkreechdang anyone have a place I can toss a pic ?05:24
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JucatoDaSkreech: photobucket? imageshack?05:24
DaSkreechOk05:24
Jucatoactinic: I guess he never read about "sudo -i"05:25
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2161105:25
DaSkreechThat works :)05:25
Jucatoactinic: I also wonder if he had the "show icons on desktop" disabled05:26
JucatoDaSkreech: lol! I didn't know pastebin could do images ehehe05:26
actinicJucato, he could of been on drugs too05:26
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Drako60anyone here know of any programs with Dapper and via chipset on AM2 MB with AMD64 X2 not allowing UDMA?05:27
Jucatoactinic: I soooo want to leave a comment05:28
tulgaI'm compiling 2.6.17 kernel. where is devfs option?05:28
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actiniclol05:28
Nerevarit says: hdh: the drive appears confused. 0x01 infinitely.05:28
Nerevarreason 0x01.05:28
Nerevarat "mounting drive" step.05:28
Nerevarmy theory is, it has something to do with the old mandrake install i have on the drive.05:29
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wolfmanzwhat would cause the ATI driver to not work after being installed?05:31
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kazukisanI have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^05:33
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Nerevarlooks like multiple ppl are complaining about my problem05:34
Jucatoactinic: although I agree with one thing, about how (relatively) difficult it is to put a Trash icon on the desktop...05:35
Dr_Willis!audacity05:35
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB05:35
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Nerevarso ..05:39
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jacobI have a desktop with a Broadcom wireless card that Kubuntu doesn't recognize, so i found this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 .  It mentions using a CD as a repo to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool, so how might I do that? (I don't have wired internet access on that machine)05:40
Nerevarno advice i guess05:40
actinicJucato, sudo -i for root shell access?  I don't seem to have a man for it ... I think.05:41
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Jucatoactinic: from the sudo man page: The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.05:42
SnakeI just deleted my whole home dir, is it possible to recover05:42
Kr4t05anyone have a clue as to restoring a /home/ dir in the event of accidental deletion?05:42
Kr4t05AKA rm -rf?05:42
JucatoSnake: if you deleted from Konqueror, yes?05:42
actinicJucato, whats the command synatx to get the man page?05:42
SnakeJucato: rm -r05:42
actinicerr sytax05:42
Jucatooooh...05:43
JucatoT_T05:43
actinicsyntax05:43
actiniclol05:43
ryan_how to i get write access to a file05:43
SnakeJucato: ill say its not possible?05:43
JucatoI don't know if there's "undel" in BASH...05:44
Jucatobut AFAIK, it's gone...05:44
draikactinic, 'man (app)'05:44
Snakethats what I figured05:44
Snakedamn it05:44
Kr4t05Snake: :/05:44
actinicdraik, thanks05:44
draikactinic, np. Glad I could help05:44
Kr4t05Snake: you could always re-create your user.05:45
SnakeKr4t05: what do you mean?05:45
Kr4t05Snake: granted, you wouldn't be able to restore your lost data, but it would be suitable.05:45
draikryan_, 'chmod 700 filename'05:45
SnakeKr4t05: that wont bring back the lost data05:45
SnakeKr4t05: I can just make a new home dir lol05:45
Kr4t05Snake: Add a new user with sudo rights.05:45
actinicone of these days we're going to need a SUDO lesson :)05:45
Jucatodraik: I think he was trying to write to sources.list?05:45
SnakeKr4t05: Linux automatically rebuilds the default settings05:45
SnakeKr4t05: so that no biggy to me05:45
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Kr4t05Snake: If you just mkdir /home/snake it won't accept it as your home dir05:46
Kr4t05Snake: IIRC05:46
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SnakeKr4t05: regardless, when I restart all the defaults will be restored05:46
Jucatoexcept for the data...05:46
Kr4t05Snake: You won't have a home dir, though.05:46
SnakeKr4t05: yess I will05:47
Kr4t05Snake: Maybe you will...05:47
Kr4t05Snake: I dunno. :/05:47
SnakeKr4t05: its gotta put the /. configs somewhere05:47
Snake;)05:47
Nerevarwow.. there are 8 pages of people having the same problem as me in the forum05:47
Kr4t05Snake: ok, do it.05:47
Snakeill get to it later05:47
Kr4t05Nerevar: What would that be?05:47
Snakeright now I want to memorize as many settings as I can05:47
Jucatodo it now! lol05:47
Snakeso I can set them back05:47
Snakelol05:47
jacobCan I put a package on a CD to install it on a machine w/o internet access?05:49
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Nerevarhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187318&page=505:49
Nerevari am reading this trainwreck to see if anyone posted a fix05:49
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Nerevarit seems everyone disabled legacy USB in their bios. i dont know what that will do, im a little hesitant05:50
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etzerdhello ubuntu people05:51
etzerd?05:51
etzerdI have Microsoft Office 200305:52
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etzerdeverytime I start the installation from ubuntu using wine at the end of the installation it's failed, any Idea why?05:52
HealotNerevar: legacy USB mode is to support USB keyboard and mouse in DOS real mode, since Linux kernel has native USB drivers, there is no need to enable it05:52
Healotetzerd: : read WINE compatibility list05:53
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TehKewl1how do you get gcc to work properly?05:57
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draiketzerd, ubuntu doesn't like "#2" being installed on it05:59
ryan_<draik> 'chmod 700 filename' did not work i got the error "05:59
ryan_ryan@server:/etc$ chmod 700 fstab05:59
ryan_chmod: changing permissions of `fstab': Operation not permitted05:59
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naliothryan_: oooh don't do that05:59
ryan_sorry....nob05:59
draikI thought this was just a regular file06:00
naliothryan_: if it isn't in your /home directory DO NOT MESS with it06:00
ryan_in trying to mount a ntfs drive06:00
draikgeneral rule of thumb, I'd say06:00
naliothsorry for the caps, but only your home directory contents should be messed with06:00
jacobryan_: then do sudo -i06:00
intelikeyyuch is there no easy to change the background from white to something viewable in gaim ?06:00
jacobbut dont change the permissions of the drive06:00
wolfmanzWhat would cause the ATI driver not to work?06:01
Dr_Willisryan_,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   is the definitive guide on that topic. :)06:01
ryan_alright ....ill see if i can get it to work06:01
Dr_Williswell worth bookmarking and reading a few times. :)06:01
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intelikeygaim. like everything else ubuntu default; looks like crap.06:02
Nerevarok well i give up with this06:02
Kronosintelikey: KDE! :)06:02
Nerevarmaybe i'll try it next year.. gonna try pclinuxos.. later06:02
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draiktired Dr_Willis?06:02
intelikeyno the only live cd i have is venella ubuntu06:02
Dr_Willismy system wont even boot if i ENABLE legacy usb support.06:03
Dr_Willis:P06:03
KronosWell, I'm going to bed while StepMania compiles.06:03
Dr_Willisbut nerevar just left. :)06:03
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thompajoin #ubuntu06:04
draiklol06:04
intelikeyand you cant move windows over the pannels...  peace of junk.06:04
draikthompa, /joing06:04
thompasry06:04
draik*/join06:04
thompaalready there06:04
thompahas anyone tried kubuntu in edgy yet06:05
thompaim running kde apps in ubuntu edgy06:05
thompai still need konqueror for some reason06:06
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thompadoes realplayer work in kubuntu64?06:07
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thompa!realplayer06:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:07
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thompai know it sucks06:08
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intelikeyand if you close the "buddy" list window gaim crashes.    i know now why i never tried this dung heap before.06:09
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shane_I am looking for a game similar to Cube for linux any suggestions?06:11
DaSkreechWhats Cube?06:11
draikI think it's got squares and boxes and such06:11
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shane_Cube is just a FPS single player or online multiplayer06:12
shane_looks and plays nice06:13
DaSkreechAh06:13
DaSkreechUmm Dang it hold on06:13
wolfmanzdo you have to reinstall graphic drivers in this case ATI if you switch to another kernal as in going from the 386 kernal to the k7?06:13
DaSkreechI know of this one that I used to play06:13
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thompawokfwanz: i know when i switched I reinstalled06:14
Lamingtonhello06:14
draikcounter strike?06:14
LamingtonI have a problem with kmail06:14
thompathat was cause of a nvidia-64 driver though06:14
LamingtonI'm receiving emails but emails I send dont arrive at their destinations06:15
thompawokfwanz: if it doesnt work just reinstall the driver06:15
thompai tried k7 kernel but get better results on amd6406:15
wolfmanzthompa: thats just it i just installed the driver with easyubuntu and the ati driver isnt working i'm seeing that messa driver as the default06:16
thompaeasyubuntu ,,eh06:16
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LamingtonIs anyone here using kmail ?06:16
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wolfmanzthompa: ya it worked fine a few days ago but tonight after doing a fresh install the ati driover is not working for some reason06:17
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thompawokfwanz: did you edit the xorg.conf06:19
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wolfmanzthompa:  ya thats set the way it should be06:19
r3sil3So I have a question if any one can help?06:20
Healot!ask06:20
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:20
r3sil3Ok thanks06:20
r3sil3Ok here's the problem06:20
r3sil3i just installed Kubuntu06:20
draikWelcome to Kubuntu r3sil306:20
thompawokfwanz: does xorg.conf have what for driver "driver"?06:20
r3sil3mounted my NTFS drives, all fine, but when I go to play them, it just skips through them like they aren't found06:20
draikskips through what?06:21
wolfmanzthompa: it has fglrx06:21
r3sil3the playlist06:21
r3sil3like it isn't finding the songs06:21
draikI can't say I've had that issue cuz I pulled my fav's from my NTFS HDD and saved them in a folder06:21
draiktry doing that06:21
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draikcreate a folder on your desktop and then save your fav's06:22
r3sil3Ok, let me switch to Kubuntu06:22
r3sil3alright06:22
r3sil3brb06:22
r3sil3ill get on here on kubuntu06:22
NDPowerBookhttp://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/transformers-video/06:22
starzhow do i gain root access06:22
thompawokfwanz: i dont know, you said mesa also06:22
Healotr3sil3: : follow the next factoid links06:22
Healot!mp306:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:22
wolfmanzthompa: messa is what is showing up when i type in fglrxinfo06:23
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thompais that default screen06:23
wolfmanzthompa: thats the default 3d driver06:23
thomparight06:23
thompai dont know about easyubuntu06:24
thompajust remove it06:24
Dr_Willis!sudo > starz06:24
thompa2.6.17-6-amd64-generic06:25
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thompa!easyubuntu06:29
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.06:29
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pierrethis possible to set konqueror in kubuntu like it is in other distribution?06:31
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r3sil3ok im back06:31
r3sil3i am copying all of my music to the desktop06:31
r3sil3or a folder on the desktop i should say06:31
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r3sil3i love kubuntu, just.............new to linux06:32
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r3sil3im a PC tech and I need to learn linux for myself and my job06:32
thompaits great , ubuntu is nice too06:32
r3sil3i wanted to start out with something more graphical06:32
r3sil3then learn coding and what not, then jump into that06:32
thompaare the windows suppossed to creak in gnome06:33
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starzonce i mount my ntfs drive i get the gernic error "Could not enter folder /media/Hard Disks/Toshiba 100GB"06:38
starzany idea06:38
draikthompa, update gnome... it's getting old :p06:39
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r3sil3draik06:40
r3sil3im not registered06:40
r3sil3so no PM's for me06:40
draikok06:40
draiknp06:40
r3sil3so06:40
r3sil3i copied everything to the desktop06:41
draikand?06:41
r3sil3or the kubuntu disk06:41
draikworking for you?06:41
r3sil3and still the same thing06:41
draikwhat are you using to listen to them?06:41
r3sil3kaffiene06:41
r3sil3and the other one06:41
r3sil3amerok06:41
draikmp3?06:41
r3sil3my sound works06:41
r3sil3yes06:41
r3sil3MP306:41
r3sil3Isnt there something I have to do to get them to work?06:41
r3sil3IIRC06:41
draikw32codec06:41
r3sil3where do i get it06:41
draik!mp306:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:41
r3sil3Thanks!06:42
r3sil3So i have to install W32codecs?06:42
draikhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs06:42
draikyup06:42
draikclick on that link and it will take you straight to what you need06:43
r3sil3so06:43
r3sil3i have to go into terminal06:43
r3sil3and type06:43
r3sil3wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb06:43
r3sil3sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb06:43
r3sil3taht?06:43
draikyup06:44
imbrandon_yes06:44
draikin a terminal06:44
r3sil3k downloading now06:44
r3sil3will it isntall itself?06:44
draikyou might also want to get yakuake06:44
r3sil3im VERY new to this06:44
draikyes06:44
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r3sil3if you couldn't tell06:44
draikwe're here to help as long as you're willing to learn06:44
r3sil3tahts why im usign it :)06:44
draik:)06:44
r3sil3that and im sick of the monopoly of shit they call microsoft :)06:45
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r3sil3ok06:45
r3sil3its still doign the same thing06:45
soulriderhi06:45
draikhello06:46
r3sil3hi sould06:46
r3sil3soul06:46
pierrethhi06:46
r3sil3hey draik06:46
r3sil3still same thing bro06:46
draiktry xmms06:46
r3sil3ok06:47
r3sil3!xmms06:47
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:47
draikK Menu > Multimedia > XMMS06:47
draikit's already installed06:47
r3sil3I dont see it under multimedia06:47
draikKubuntu 6.06?06:47
draikright?06:47
r3sil3newest one off the web06:47
draikopen terminal06:49
r3sil3k06:49
r3sil3open06:49
r3sil3so i just tested an OGG, it works06:50
draiklet me get you what you need to install the xmms player06:50
r3sil3ok thanks06:50
draiktype...06:50
draiksudo apt-get install xmms06:50
r3sil3ok its doing its thing06:51
r3sil3k done06:51
r3sil3where will it be06:51
draikK Menu > Multimedia > XMMS06:51
r3sil3still not there.06:51
r3sil3wtf06:51
r3sil3i "could" open audacity and try to turn one into an OGG and see if it works06:52
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draiktry it06:53
Dr_WillisWe dare you!06:53
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r3sil3lol06:54
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imbrandon_sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:54
imbrandon_is what you want06:54
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Healotwhat you need06:55
r3sil3which version do I have to download to get it to install to linux06:55
r3sil3.tar.gz?06:56
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imbrandon_you dont unless yo are confrotable compiling, otherwise you get the deb from apt-get06:56
imbrandon_apt-get install <package name>06:57
r3sil3so whats taht command?06:57
r3sil3ah06:57
r3sil3thanks06:57
Healot!apt06:57
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:57
imbrandon_or use adept06:57
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hupp3lhi, i messed up bad but I think it is fixable06:57
r3sil3pt-get install audacity06:58
r3sil3Reading package lists... Done06:58
r3sil3Building dependency tree... Done06:58
r3sil3E: Couldn't find package audacity06:58
hupp3lI wanted to run kubuntu through my projecter06:58
Healot!repos06:58
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:58
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hupp3land I went into the settings and as my screen I chose something else than the default06:58
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imbrandon_r3sil3: its in universe06:59
hupp3lnow kubuntu starts up, it loads and then it just shows the logo and freezes up06:59
hupp3lwhen I press the power button it shuts down like it would normally06:59
hupp3lie. the xserver wont start right06:59
jacobHey, how can I download a deb file so I can install in on another computer?06:59
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Jucatohupp3l: once you get to the point where it stops at the logo, press Ctrl+Alt+F1, then type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:00
Jucato(without the quotes)07:00
r3sil3im so confused07:00
Jucato!audacity07:00
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB07:00
hupp3lok i will try it Jucato07:00
imbrandon_r3sil3: you just need to enable universe07:00
r3sil3why does it have to be so hard to download stuff07:00
r3sil3how do i do that07:00
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:00
imbrandon_!repos07:00
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:00
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starzok in realy new to linux i just made the swich to kubuntu from windows xp ive never done anythign with linux untill now can anyone suggest a beginners site07:02
Jucatoimbrandon_: thanks for making Amarok 1.4.2 available in Dapper ^_^07:02
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imbrandon_Jucato: welcome ;)07:02
imbrandon_brb food time07:03
Jucatostarz: you can view an off-line guide to Kubuntu (with a short intro to Linux) in K Menu > Help. Look for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide07:03
starzthanks07:03
Brownehstarz: ubuntuforums.org :D07:03
jacobstarz: the Kubuntu Desktop Guide also links to http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html , which is useful07:03
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hupp3lwhat mouse should i choose Imps/2 or explorerps/2?07:04
hupp3lits an internal laptop mouse and sometime a usb mouse07:04
Jucatohupp3l: it usually highlights the default. usually...07:04
Jucatostarz: the link jacob gave is also a good one. It's teaches you about Linux, regardless of what distribution you use.07:05
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Healothupp3l: : just choose imps/207:06
r3sil3man this sucks07:07
r3sil3i turned universe and that bullshit on07:07
r3sil3i just want my music to work07:07
hupp3lJucato it appears to work fine thank you soo much07:08
Jucator3sil3: now that you got "multiverse" enabled (which is what I presumed you were referring to), you can look for "libxine-extracodecs" and install that, if all you wanted was to play MP3's07:08
r3sil3ok07:09
r3sil3let me try07:09
r3sil3pt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:09
r3sil3Reading package lists... Done07:09
jacobIs there a way I can put a package on a CD so I can use it as a repository on a machine without internet access?07:09
r3sil3Building dependency tree... Done07:09
r3sil3Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:09
r3sil3This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:09
r3sil3is only available from another source07:09
r3sil3E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate07:09
r3sil3i get that shit07:09
Healot!multiverse07:10
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:10
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Healotread the following factoid07:10
Jucator3sil3: I have a feeling that either multiverse wasn't enabled, or the wrong multiverse was enabled, or it wasn't enabled properly07:11
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Jucatohmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?07:12
jacobReally, can I make a CD to use as a repo?  By putting deb files on it or something?  >_>07:12
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Jucatojacob: I think you can.07:13
r3sil3same as in the picture they showed07:13
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jacobHow would I get the deb files?  Project pages usually just have the source files..07:13
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Jucator3sil3: did you click on Apply then Fetch Updates when you made the changes?07:14
r3sil3yes07:15
r3sil3and it worked07:15
Jucator3sil3: "and it worked"... you mean now you can search "libxine-extracodecs"?07:16
r3sil3no, it fetched updates07:16
r3sil3then i did07:16
r3sil3apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:16
r3sil3and it didnt do anthing07:16
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r3sil3so i search libxine07:17
r3sil3and it brings libxine-main1 and libxinerama1 up07:17
r3sil3both isntalled07:17
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Jucator3sil3: hm... can you check if this line is enabled (not grayed out) in Manage Repositories: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse" ?? where "xx" is for us. or uk. or au. etc07:18
Healotdapper repos, not dapper-backports07:18
Healoti think you enabled multiverse section the dapper-backports repos07:19
r3sil3im oiut for now07:19
Healotbtw, paste bin your /etc/apt/sources.list and I'll tell you what went wrong07:19
r3sil3this is making me confused and i gotta be up in a while07:19
Jucato!pastebin07:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:19
Jucator3sil3: ok then. you might have better luck when you're less confused07:20
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Jucatohmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?07:25
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jacob!deb07:38
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)07:38
wolfmanzdoes easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?07:39
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martinjh99Anyone know if the latest Amarok is on the way??07:41
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Jucatomartinjh99: it already is07:42
Jucato!amarok07:42
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/07:42
martinjh99Ah - OK Was wondering if Riddell was packaging it as he usually does Amarok releases...07:42
_rince_mrgn07:42
Jucatomartinjh99: it's from a Kubuntu dev also, so no biggie.07:43
imbrandonmartinjh99: i do them now to take a bit of weight of Riddell ;)07:43
imbrandoni also uploaded the ppc ones earlier too07:43
Jucatoeheheh, I guess people just got used to things coming from Jonathan :-D07:44
imbrandonif anyone ask Jucato07:44
Jucatolol07:44
Jucatoimbrandon: btw, have I thanked you already? :-D07:44
imbrandonJucato: yea me and hobbsee help him quite a bit this cycle ;)07:44
imbrandonJucato: not sure but your welcome anyhow ;)07:44
imbrandonheh07:44
imbrandonkopete just hit dapper backports too07:45
Jucatobackports is alive again?07:45
imbrandonyup as of yesterday07:45
Jucatowhoa!07:45
Jucatokool07:45
Jucatohmm....07:45
imbrandoni'll blog about it later on the planet07:45
imbrandonand add a !backports07:45
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Jucatoheheh! I'll receive that post later on. (subscribed to the feed)07:46
imbrandonthe reson some things will still get hosted by kubuntu.org/imbrandon.com though is cuz of libs like amarok07:46
imbrandonamarok wont ever get backported07:46
jaffa_guys where do you pakages normaly get installed to ?07:46
verbosejaffa_: that really depends on the package07:47
imbrandonjaffa_: depends on the package /usr most of the time07:47
verbosejaffa_: if i were you i'd `man hier`07:47
Jucatooh, so we'll have 2 places to get updates? backports and kubuntu.org/imbradon.com?07:47
verbosethat has some good information about the file hierarchy of ubuntu07:47
jaffa_thank07:47
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imbrandonJucato: yes somethings will be in the offical dapper-backport , the stuff like kopete that dont need extra libs and the stuff that requires extra libs like amarok will go on mine or johnathans site07:48
Jucatooh07:48
Jucatoimbrandon: is the new Kopete no longer dependent on XMMS?07:48
imbrandonlike kopete and kbfx just got backported, and no its not07:49
imbrandonit will use it if its there but not dep on it07:49
Jucatokool. it has been dependent on it for quite a while...07:49
imbrandonyea that changed with 12.207:49
Jucatoawesome!07:50
wolfmanzdoes easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?07:50
verbosedo visualizations work in amarok 1.4.2? is there a trick to them? i've apt-get install'd libvisual0.2-dev and libvisual0.2-plugins07:50
imbrandondunno , never used it, i do everyting by hand, safer that way ;)07:50
imbrandonverbose: 1.4.2 ( from me and the official edgy ) both use libvisual-0.407:51
verboseimbrandon: aah, thanks07:51
Jucatoimbrandon: whoa! they should make an announcement that backports are alive again. I'm seeing KTorrent 2.0.1 there now (browsing through http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)07:51
imbrandonits in the repo and amarok deps on it so it should install07:51
verboseweird, it didn't come up in apt-cache search07:51
imbrandonJucato: ohh yea i did ktorrent too forgot about that one07:51
Jucatohehehe07:51
imbrandonverbose: its called libvisual-0.4 not just libvisual ( so it can be instaled side by side )07:52
Jucatoso many people have been having problems installing the KTorrent 2.0 .deb from the KTorrent site. this will be a great help07:52
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verboseimbrandon: oh, hah, thanks07:53
verbosethey don't interfere with each other?07:53
imbrandonbrandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache search libvisual-0.407:53
imbrandonlibvisual-0.4-0 - Audio visualization framework07:53
imbrandonlibvisual-0.4-dev - Audio visualization framework (development package)07:53
imbrandonlibvisual-0.4-plugins - Audio visualization framework plugins07:53
imbrandonbrandon@voyager:~$07:53
verbosegot it now07:53
imbrandonverbose: it will replace 0.2 smoothly, trust me i spent 24 hours littlerly makin sure it was a smooth transition07:53
verbosewell i appreciate that greatly07:54
imbrandon;)07:54
Jucatoimbrandon ftw!!!07:54
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Jucatoimbrandon: did you say that Kopete is in backports already, or will be in backports?07:54
imbrandonJucato: yea there will be a an announcement soonish , it has been sent to the ML , and like i said i'll stick it on planet soon07:55
imbrandonJucato: it has been processed, might not be in the mirrors yet07:55
imbrandonit will be soon if not07:55
verboseimbrandon: in which repository is libvisual-0.4-plugins? i don't see that, but i see libvisual-0.4-0  and libvisual-0.4-dev07:55
Jucatoi'm browsing through the main archive.ubuntu.com07:55
imbrandonverbose: i dident backport the plugins , i can if you would like07:55
imbrandonJucato: yea its probably still building on the buildd's that one is new by just a few minutes07:56
verbosei'm not sure what that means :P07:56
danishis there like a cls command for KONSOLE07:56
imbrandonverbose: libvis 0.4 is comming from my repo ( becouse its not in dapper proper ) and i dident package the -plugins07:56
danishclr clear screen07:57
verbosedanish: `clear`07:57
imbrandondanish: clear07:57
danishthnx07:57
Jucatokool! thanks for your efforts imbrandon and Hobbsee (she's not here yet?!?!)07:57
imbrandonverbose: i only packaged the bare minimum for amarok to work07:57
verboseimbrandon: aah, ok07:57
imbrandonyea hobbsee has a cold the last few days ;( heh07:58
imbrandonshe might get on late07:58
Jucatohehe! she's been busy :-D07:58
Jucatoimbrandon: would the latest deKorator make it into backports?07:58
imbrandonverbose: give me a few minutes to finish up the konversation nightly and i'll mess with the -plugins07:58
verboseimbrandon: no rush man, give yourself a break :P07:59
Jucatoooh... konversation and deKorator.. I'm looking forward to those07:59
imbrandonJucato: i dunno i'll have to look at the depends, i'll put it on my todo list07:59
verbosei'm such a graphics whore these days since i installed Xgl/compiz07:59
Jucatolol07:59
verbosei'm forming bad habits07:59
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imbrandonJucato: konversation is alreaady in my repos i make a nightly build of it07:59
Jucatotake it easy imbrandon. we don't want you and Hobbsee and everyone else getting sick at the same time :-D07:59
imbrandonhehe08:00
imbrandonJucato: just modify the deb line you have for my repo to say "all" instead of "amarok" and you get all my goodies ;)08:00
Jucatoehehe08:00
imbrandonlike konvo etc ;)08:00
imbrandon!info konversation dapper-imbrandon08:01
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component konversation\-nightly, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4+svn20060823 (dapper-imbrandon), package size 5714 kB, installed size 10539 kB08:01
imbrandon;)08:01
Jucatohm... maybe I will.. later :-D08:01
Jucatohehe getting to know more Kubuntu devs... kool! :-D08:02
imbrandonactualy +svn20060824 is uploading , but the bot only updates every 6 hours08:02
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imbrandon;)08:02
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verbosenow if there were only any supermodels in here, you'd be set08:03
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imbrandonok dekorator and -plugins added to my todo ;)08:03
Jucatowow! thanks!!08:03
imbrandonbtw you can always email me ( or other devs ) we dont bite imbrandon@kubuntu.org ;P08:04
danishhow can i tell bash to move all directories except Examples and programming to programming directory in one single line08:04
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imbrandondanish: mv {dir1,dir2} /new/place08:04
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verboseor just `mv a b c d` moves a b and c into d08:05
imbrandonyea ;)08:05
Jucatothe last argument is always the destination?08:05
verboseJucato: yes08:05
danishi know but instead of type 20 directory names i want to do it with one swoop. testing power of linux08:05
imbrandonyes08:05
Jucatooh kool..08:05
crimsunbe aware that {} is a bashism.08:05
verbosedanish: mv * /blah08:06
verbosemv /blah/Examples .08:06
Jucatodanish: why not test the power of Konqueror? :-D08:06
verbosethat's the easiest way probably08:06
imbrandondanish: use a regex then but becarefull sounds like with Examples your doing it in your home dir and you dont want to more say .gnupg etc08:06
imbrandon;)08:06
danishmv */blah !Examples & programming ./programming08:06
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verbosedanish: you need a scripting language08:07
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Jucatodapper-backports is alive!! it's aliiiive!!!!!! ^_^08:07
verbose<psuedo code> read in dir names, if name isn't Examples and name isn't programming mv $name programming08:07
danishimbrandon: i am in my home directory08:07
imbrandondanish: rm Examples , then mv * /.programing , it will automaticly not move its self into its self ;)08:07
danishi am learning bash from linuxcommand.org08:07
verbosehaha08:07
Jucatowhoa!! new tabs in KTorrent....08:08
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verbosedanish: that sounds like a job for something that starts with p(perl, php, or _python_)08:08
imbrandonok i'm off for a bit to finish some things up , ping me later if you need something08:09
Jucatoor something that starts with #! /bin/bash08:09
Jucatothanks again imbrandon!08:09
imbrandonJucato:  i would recomend though usign "all" for you or advanced users insrtead of "amarok"08:09
danishi was just trying to see if it was possilbe08:09
verboseJucato: i'm not sure bash is the right tool for that job, but that's just me and my limited skills08:09
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imbrandonverbose: bash is VERY powerfull if you take the time to learn it fully08:10
verboseimbrandon: python is too and takes a lot less time probably :P08:10
imbrandon;)08:10
verboseyou're right of course08:10
verboseand bash is on most systems where python might not be08:10
verboseso it's probably the smarter move08:10
_rince_sure most jobs are easier in python/perl, but it's a great help to know bash however08:11
_rince_verbose: ack08:11
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verbose_rince_: it's a great help to know _everything_ but you have to prioritize08:11
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verbose_rince_: rst08:11
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Jucatoit's a great help to know a "little" of everything (that you need)08:12
_rince_and believe it or not, some things (esp. file i/o) is easier with bash using pipes08:12
verboseand a greater help to know a lot of everything08:12
verbose_rince_: yeah, there are a lot of things that bash and awk and sed are great for08:12
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verbosei'm not sure this is one of them though08:12
Jucatobut knowing a lot more than a little of everything may not be possible :-D08:12
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_rince_that's kind of philosophical, but understanding shell (not just bash) basiscs comes in handy very often08:13
verboseJucato: knowing a little of everything might not be possible depending on your standards08:13
verbose_rince_: verily08:13
_rince_verily?08:13
Jucatoyes... but in danish's case... ^_^08:13
Jucatoverily = truly08:13
verbosewait, i'm confused...which is better in his case...bash? or something else08:14
_rince_i didn't read the beginning of the conversation ... isn't he trying to move a hand full of diretories in one step?08:14
verboseit would be easier for _me_ in python or php, but i'm not great at bash scripting08:14
verbose_rince_: he's trying to move all but 208:14
Jucatoan added problem would be if he's also trying to move hidden files as well08:14
_rince_then its bash imo08:15
danishi did it08:15
verboseoh, and we're assuming it's not allowed to move all and then just pick out the ones that he didn't want08:15
verboseJucato: that's trivial08:15
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_rince_for i in ...; [$i eq ] ; ...; done08:16
verbose_rince_: $i ne08:16
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verbosewell, it could work either way08:17
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verbosemore than 29038562935872305 ways to skin a cat of course08:17
_rince_verbose: this was just an example08:17
verboseyeah08:17
Jucatowhoa! new icon for KTorrent...08:18
danishi did using this " mv * [!Ep] * programming08:18
danishit skipped the file with capitol E and small p and move everything else in programming08:19
_rince_and that was probably the most elegant way08:19
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verbosevery nice08:19
danishnot bad for a noob08:19
danishthx all08:19
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Jucatoehehe08:19
Jucatonot bad at all... in fact it's good :-D08:20
intelikey[00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.08:20
danishthx08:20
imbrandonintelikey: looks like its trying to run as root or a suidroot08:21
intelikeywhere is this "I/O permission"  ?08:21
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intelikeyimbrandon  you should kill your clone,     i can run it as root.08:22
intelikeytrying to get it to run as user08:22
imbrandoni'm not gonna kill my clone its another client , and you need to fix the first error to fix the second one08:22
Jucatooh yeah, it was that clone with the "_" that I thanked earlier...08:22
imbrandonIE cant open display08:22
danishit gave me errors of not finding the directories after they were moved when i switched the wild card arguments so that exceptions applied first then moves it worked without error so thats an improvement08:22
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imbrandon_this "clone" is my Laptop ;)08:23
imbrandon_isnt not a "clone"08:23
intelikeyi know the first error is the second   they are one error.08:23
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Jucatohmm... if it's not a clone.. it's a... um... .... ....08:24
imbrandonright, it cant open the display, fix that and your golden08:24
intelikeyit bucks tab completion.  so if you don't want people using your nick then run two clients.08:24
intelikeyyeah  like how the hell do you fix it ?>08:24
Jucatolol08:24
imbrandonintelikey: thats like asking you to change you name becoue 4 nicks start with "in"08:25
imbrandonplenty use my name all the time08:25
imbrandonkthx for you sugestion , please drive though08:25
imbrandon;)08:25
Jucatolol08:25
intelikeyif so just say the word,   im not hard to get along with.08:25
wordeh?08:25
imbrandon;) heh anyhow about your problem08:26
Jucatolol08:26
imbrandonit looks liek the user trying to run it dosent have permission to output to $DISPLAY08:26
imbrandonthat normaly happens when you run something as root or try to run the wm as root08:26
imbrandonand the program as another user08:27
intelikeyhow can i change that ?    and what is $DISPLAY supposed to be ?08:27
imbrandontype "xhost +"08:27
intelikeyi'm not in X08:27
imbrandonthen try it08:27
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verboseif you're not in X that could be a problem too :P08:27
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imbrandonwell thats the problem then08:27
verboseseeing as how your app is trying to connect to an X server08:27
imbrandonits trying to open an X display08:27
intelikeyxhost +08:27
intelikeyxhost:  unable to open display ""08:28
imbrandonxhost only helps if your running x08:28
verboseintelikey: that won't do anything if you're not running X08:28
intelikeyit shouldn't be trying for X    it's svgalib08:28
imbrandonbut thats your problem skins2 is trying to open an xdisplay and your not running x ;)08:28
imbrandonskins2 interface error: Cannot open display   <-- means it connot connect to the x server or x isnt running08:29
imbrandoncannot*08:29
crimsunimbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +''08:29
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Jucato???08:30
crimsunlook at xauth(1x).08:30
imbrandoncrimsun: if they have a firewall it /should/ be ok but your right , not a good idea normaly08:30
crimsunthe relevant options are 'extract' and 'merge'08:30
Jucato<crimsun> imbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +'' <--- that's going to hurt.... ^_^08:31
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imbrandonor better would be "xhost +localhost"08:31
imbrandonJucato: its ment to ;) i was wrong in recomending it without telling the security precautions ;)08:32
Jucatooooh ... baaaad :-D08:32
intelikeyagain why would it matter if X isn't running.08:32
imbrandonit dosent08:33
imbrandonthat was said once you said your not running X08:33
Jucato(good thing I know nothing about you guys are talking about)08:33
Jucato<intelikey> [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.08:33
imbrandonJucato: "xhost +" alone will let any client connect to the running x server08:34
imbrandonnormaly BAD08:34
Jucatowhoa... yeah that does sound bad08:34
Jucato*sigh* need lots to learn about Linux...08:34
intelikeyJucato trying to get vlc working in this console.   seems only root can use it.  for now.08:34
Jucatooh08:34
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verboseintelikey: maybe you have to build vlc without X support08:35
verboseor maybe there's a switch to tell it to not use the gui08:35
intelikeyive just said it works for root08:36
imbrandonnah it looks like a svgalib permissions issue now that you say that but i dunno what08:36
verboseoh, forgot about that08:36
intelikeythe switch is --vout08:36
imbrandoni konw mplayer works on console via vesa just fine, can vlc use vesa ?08:36
danishis there undo command in bash08:36
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imbrandondanish: no08:37
danishimbrandon: how about undelete08:37
intelikeymaybe08:37
Jucatodanish: nope08:37
JucatoT_T08:37
intelikeydanish depends on what you did08:37
danishintelikey for example i deleted a file or moved a directory08:37
imbrandondanish: undelete depends on the file system, proper fs like ext3 actualy DELETE the file unlike windows fs's ;)08:37
imbrandonso no08:37
intelikeywith some fs   but not many08:37
intelikeydanish deleted on ext3  forget it.  moved.  move it back08:38
danishthx good to know08:38
intelikeyext2 can undelete08:39
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intelikeyit's the journel that hangs ext3 out on that one08:39
danishwhat does ext stands for anyway just curious like ntfs is network file system08:39
intelikeyextended08:40
danishoh i c thx08:40
imbrandonnfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)08:40
intelikeyno ntfs is not network08:40
danishthats what i read in a book08:40
Jucato[Away] well, considering what NT means...08:40
imbrandonheh you might have mis read nfs as ntfs , they are totaly diffrent08:41
danishwhat is it08:41
imbrandonnfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)08:41
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imbrandonnt == new technology ( from MS )08:41
Jucato[Away] hehe08:41
intelikeyso write a book that corrects it.08:41
danishso its new technology file system08:41
danishl am gonna google it08:41
Jucato[Away] danish: yep08:41
imbrandonno ms droped the new tech after nt4 and nt is just nt now08:42
imbrandonnot an abriv08:42
Jucato[Away] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS08:42
imbrandonso ntfs is nt file system ;)08:42
danishu guys stand corrected08:42
Jucato[Away] ??08:42
danishi checked out ntfs.com08:42
verboseis that site reputable?08:43
imbrandonsays the same thing as wiki ? and .......08:43
danishwhat is WinFS stands for08:43
imbrandoni fail to see how that corected US08:43
imbrandonwindows file system08:43
verboseimbrandon: if it's on the internet it's true08:43
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Jucato[Away] ntfs.com says "NTFS - New Technology File System"08:43
verboseunless tv contradicts it08:43
imbrandonverbose: heh08:43
verbosetv > internet > #kubuntu > *08:44
danishWindws Storage Subsystem WinFS08:44
intelikeyverbose lol08:44
imbrandondanish: and this is all relivent how ?08:44
danishnot really relevant just .... extra knowledge08:44
Jucato[Away] maybe most people presume that the NT of Window NT stands for "net" or network. Considering MS is the one pushing .NET08:44
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HealotWinFS is supposed to be the database underlying for NTFS, but it was hold08:45
imbrandonahh ok well in that case google and wikipedia are your friend ;)08:45
imbrandondanish: ^^08:45
danishimbrandon: ^^08:45
verboseno, it's common knowledge that if you're researching blah, you go to blah.com08:45
imbrandon?08:46
imbrandonverbose: heh yea if you want a spin from the creator ;)08:46
verbose:)08:46
verboseis whitehouse.com still a porn site?08:46
verbosei hope so08:46
imbrandonprobably08:46
Healotyes :-08:46
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danishso how many of peeps here actually helped build kubuntu or ubuntu08:46
Jucato[Away] helped/helping?08:47
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intelikeywell we must admit the maker is likely to know more about it than anyone else.    even if they often show great bias.08:47
danishkool jucato keep it up08:47
Jucato[Away] no I'm not08:47
Healotdevelopers?08:47
Jucato[Away] I was asking if you were asking who helped start or is still helping...08:47
danishboth08:48
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danishor one08:48
imbrandondanish: alot , many more than are here atm active in the room at the moment myself and crimsun are pacakge comtributors but many many many hundreds help build the os08:48
Healotyou can whois each one of us, and see if any has members on their hostname08:48
imbrandonHealot: ;)08:48
intelikeydanish /join #ubuntu+1   read the list.08:48
Jucato[Away] well, I'm helping in my own small way but not officially in Kubuntu or Ubuntu. I make transcripts for the #ubuntu-classroom classes08:48
imbrandonyea see ;)08:49
imbrandonintelikey: heh thats a short list too /me isnt there as arent alot of others that are in *-devel08:49
imbrandon;)08:49
danishi will be helping one day too08:49
imbrandonanyhow speaking of /me gets back to work08:49
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imbrandondanish: great08:50
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Jucato[Away] hehehe you've been delayed far too long imbrandon08:50
intelikeyi didn't say it was exhostive,  never implied it.  just that several that are there are devels08:50
danishis there a open source software to write device drivers08:50
Jucato[Away] danish: you can also help by giving help in the forums or in IRC or in the Mailing List08:51
imbrandonintelikey: yea just rasin ya a bit, take it with some salt ;)08:51
danishi think should be a development enviroment and converters to make from windows to linux08:51
imbrandondanish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu08:51
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imbrandondanish: there are plenty already08:51
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[Nige] anyone know a good multimedia player for kubuntu09:05
[Nige] or anyone know where I can find a mplayer package for kubuntu09:05
noiesmo[Nige] , I use mplayer09:05
[Nige] noiesmo, did you compile from source?09:05
noiesmo[Nige] , you need universe and multiverse09:05
noiesmono09:05
noiesmohttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#09:05
intelikey!mplayer09:06
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer09:06
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.09:06
[Nige] looking niow09:06
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SpAwN!iso09:07
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:07
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amjad92Hola!09:09
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DShepherdanyone know if there's plan for amarok to use gstreamer0.10?09:15
intelikeyi just don't know why users can't run vlc in the console....  i just watched a vidio in vlc console as root ... there is no x server running.        :?09:15
DShepherdintelikey: sweet09:15
JucatoDShepherd: I think that depends on the maintainers of the GStreamer back-end for KDE09:16
DShepherdJucato: ok.09:16
Jucatobtw, Amarok 1.4.2 and KTorrent 2.0.1 are now available!!09:16
Jucatoand dapper-backports are alive once more09:16
DShepherdok...09:16
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DShepherdJucato: seems that amarok does support gstreamer0.10  as of 1.409:17
DShepherdJucato: i dont know how well though09:17
DShepherdJucato: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/amarok/1.4.2/multimedia/amarok/ChangeLog?rev=575607&view=auto -- you can do a search for gstreamer09:18
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JucatoDShepherd: I haven't tried it out yet. but I have 1.4.2 installed. but no gstreamer...09:18
DShepherdJucato: ok09:18
DShepherdneither have I09:19
Jucatolol09:19
JucatoI stick to what is there or is easiest to install, unless I really have to install something else..09:19
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misieq!qt-mt09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qt-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
misieq!qt09:20
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.09:20
Jucatomisieq: you looking for libqt3-mt?09:20
intelikeyhmmm this works for root "vlc -f --vout svgalib <filename>"  but for users it says "[00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display09:20
intelikey[00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory09:20
misieqJucato: just found it :)09:21
intelikeyfrom the exact same command   ???09:21
Jucato^_^09:21
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intelikeyi chmoded /dev/*  hoping i'd hit it by accident....09:22
misieq!kde09:23
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE09:23
intelikeyanyone know what might be bad perming this thing ?09:23
misieq!kde-dev09:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:24
Jucato!kde-devel09:24
ubotukde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB09:24
misieq:)09:24
Jucatomisieq: you can also search for packages without ubotu's help, right there in Konqueror09:24
misieqyeah... right 40kb. when i checked it to install it sez 72M ;P09:25
Jucatotype "apt:/" in Konqueror, and you'll have a very nice interface for apt-cache and packages.ubuntu.com09:25
intelikeyor the commandline  or the package manager09:25
misieqJucato: thanks, would be useful :)09:25
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Jucatoi wouldn't use the GUI package managers just to search/browser for packages, unless it were KPackage or Aptitude09:25
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misieqhow can i add sysinfo:/ to konqueror as seen in suse 10.1?09:26
intelikeyi wouldn't use the gui09:26
intelikey:)09:26
Jucatomisieq: it's a SUSE only thing...09:26
Jucatohm....09:26
Jucatointelikey: I know you wouldn't :-D09:26
misieqtoo bad... i thought it was some kio-slav or what.. :'(09:27
Jucatowell, we can search, can't we? :-D09:27
intelikeyis there a proc:/09:27
Jucatothe apt:/ kio slave is a Kubuntu only thing, btw09:27
intelikeyin konq ?09:27
Jucatointelikey: eheheh! but even if there were, you wouldn't need/use it anyway :-D09:28
intelikeyi know i wouldn't  :)09:28
Jucatobtw, there isn't one09:29
intelikeyk  just wondering...    there's lots that konq knows.    #blah for example   iirc09:29
Jucatoehehe09:30
Jucatoit also knows man:/ but not info:/09:30
Jucatomisieq: there might be some good news for you (and me actually)09:30
intelikeyhmmm   $blah   ?09:31
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intelikeyi'm going to ##linux for a bit, see if anyone knows what needs chmoded here.09:32
[Nige] !keyboard09:32
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net09:32
[Nige] !logitech09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
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[Nige] anyone have a multimedia keyboard?09:33
JucatoCan't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/09:34
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Jucatois it ok to use a DVD Writer as a DVD-ROM and/or a CD-ROM or should it only be used for burning purposes only?09:36
crimsunyou can use it for whatever you want09:37
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crimsundon't be alarmed if it doesn't function as a trash can.09:37
Jucatothanks! I was told before that CD Writers should only be used for burning, not reading...09:37
Jucatoehehe! I was hoping it could make me breakfast...09:37
JucatoHobbsee!! glad to see you around09:38
Hobbseehey Jucato09:38
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Jucato^_^09:39
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Jucatodapper-backports are up! whoopee! meaning more updated stuff eheheh09:39
HobbseeJucato: yep :)09:39
HobbseeJucato:  i requested a backport of kopete last night09:39
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Jucatoyay!09:40
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Jucatoanyone here using KDissert?09:41
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Jucato @_@09:51
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INeedHelpHi i am new to linux, I wonder if any Packages work like K-Lite Mega Coddec?09:53
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aliasfredwhat is klite mega coddec09:54
INeedHelpa codec pack for windows support playing Divx Xvid RM RMVB Qt09:55
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aliasfred!restricted09:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:55
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs09:56
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:56
aliasfredthose link would explain to you how to install the codec you need09:56
JucatoINeedHelp: you wil need libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs09:56
Healotuse the third party codecs09:56
Healot!w32codecs09:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:56
Jucato^_^09:56
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:56
INeedHelpOH ^^ THNX GUYS ^^09:56
damianhey guess what09:57
damianwindows vista is coming jan. so that means you guys can stop using linux09:57
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INeedHelpNA ~ Windows SUCKS09:57
aliasfredok lets forget the linux vs window war :)09:57
Jucatohmm....09:57
damianlol09:58
damianwindows drm edition09:58
michael__beta09:58
michael__209:58
michael__lol09:58
INeedHelpWindows = BSoD09:59
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michael__lookee and new m$ beta release u can pay for....woohoo09:59
damianwebopedia defines a beta as a final state of a microsoft program09:59
aliasfredone may run the os that fit its need, lets not argue about the merit of each here09:59
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)09:59
michael__lol09:59
michael__now thats funny09:59
Jazonhi guys and gals :)10:00
damianJucato: a little offtopic talk doesn't hurt anyone10:00
michael__sry - offtopic..10:00
michael__just couldnt resist the bait10:00
Jucatotell that to aliasfred10:00
damianJucato: who's that guy10:00
INeedHelplol10:00
aliasfredhehe :)10:00
Jazoni have the i915 in my laptop... running kubuntu dapper... google earth is really messed up... any hints?10:00
Jucatoi'm just trying to advertise the other channel :-D10:00
damianJazon: probably because you're using it through wine10:01
JazonJucato: kumusta ka?10:01
Jazondamian: nope.  linux ver10:01
INeedHelpbtw, anytips for me( new linux user), i am switching windows to linux10:01
damianJazon: there is no linux version10:01
JucatoJazon: ehehe! just fine :-D10:01
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damianJazon: any version you downloaded uses the widnwos version+wine10:01
aliasfredJazon: i have the same issue, with the same graphic card10:01
JazonINeedHelp: sure, gobs... what you need?10:01
aliasfreddamian: there is a google earth for linux10:01
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michael__hmm works for me just fine10:02
aliasfredJazon: and i didnt find a solution, nor did i look at it very hard thor :)10:02
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Jazonaliasfred: well, i know it *can* work, 'cause i had it working 100% on another distro :P10:02
aliasfredJazon: on the same hardware ?10:02
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Jazondamian: same for picasa2.... granted, they did draw on the wine code, but it is still for linux10:03
Jazonaliasfred: yes, same laptop.10:03
damianJazon: so google actually made a linux version that integrates wine?10:03
aliasfredJazon: hmm 'interesting' news... this means a bug in the version somewhere..10:03
JucatoI thought Picasa was more natively Linux than Google Earth?10:03
INeedHelpany tips could help^^ ~ trying to get myself ready to linux with usual home usage(like music, DVD, Divx, CD, etc)10:03
Jazonit is drawing reasonably fast, but it is cropping on the edges and being weird10:04
JazonINeedHelp: ok, load kubuntu dapper10:04
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aliasfredINeedHelp: yep, the restristed links i gave you, and install kaffein as video player and amarok as audio player10:04
Jazonthen install an application called Automatix.... (it saves a ton of time and grief)10:04
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Jazonit totally automates all that hard stuff10:05
JazonINeedHelp: it is just point and click then for all the codecs, dvd playback, etc etc etc.10:05
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/10:05
Jazondamian: yes, there is a linux version of google earth, and also picasa2 (which is very nice)10:06
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JazonINeedHelp: you on a laptop or a desktop?10:06
INeedHelpdesktop10:06
JazonINeedHelp: ok, tell me about your hardware10:07
Jazonalso, are you in linux now?10:07
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Jucato!restrictedformats10:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:07
INeedHelpold P4 1.6GHz  1G ram , 9600XT10:07
Jucatothat page has the instructions you would need10:08
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/10:08
Jucatothose two tools can make it easier for you10:08
INeedHelpyes i am in kubuntu10:08
INeedHelpbut i can't install the system in raid0 T_T10:09
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INeedHelpi can't find libxine-extracodecs10:14
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JucatoINeedHelp: you need to have multiverse enabled10:15
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:15
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INeedHelpi enable already10:16
INeedHelpenabled10:16
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DwafHi, people!10:17
INeedHelphi10:17
JucatoINeedHelp: could you check again if the line where you added "multiverse" to is "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"?10:17
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JazonINeedHelp: why not just install automatix?10:18
Jazonit does all this for you mate10:18
Jazonit is seriously easy10:18
INeedHelphttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/   dapper-backports   main restricted universe multiverse10:20
INeedHelpOK let me try10:20
JazonINeedHelp:  http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt10:20
JucatoINeedHelp: no not that10:21
Jucatowrong line...10:21
JazonJucato: why?10:21
Jazonis he not running dapper?10:21
JucatoI was talking about the line where he added multiverse...10:21
JazonJucato: oh.  but automatix does all of this automatically.... why not keep it simple?10:22
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INeedHelpOH ~10:26
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INeedHelpwrong line XD10:26
INeedHelplet me install both libxine and auto ^^10:26
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Jucatocareful though with Automatix. just check what you really need...10:28
INeedHelpcareful ?10:30
INeedHelpit will kill the system?10:30
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Jucatonope10:31
JucatoI just remember someone havng a bit of trouble because he instructed Automatix to install drivers for both NVIDIA and ATI10:31
INeedHelpdon't see ATI driver XD10:32
INeedHelpwhere are you guys form ,btw?10:33
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peterzany way I can get a recent xorg on my edgy install?11:06
peterzbtw, could an ubuntu op ping me11:07
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eeoshi there. after last upgrade of xorg-core kde is slower and behaves strangely11:08
eeosanyone with similar problems?11:08
peterzeeos: edgy, I'll know in a bit, upgrading now11:09
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eeospeterz are you moving to edgy? why?11:09
peterzeeos: I'm already on edgy, because dapper is getting very old11:10
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eeospeterz is it stable?11:10
peterzeeos: stable enough for me11:10
peterzuserland generally isn't the problem11:10
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eeospeterz do you use in production11:11
peterzhaha, don't be funny ;-)11:11
peterzI'm a kernel dev11:11
peterzI run vim and gcc11:11
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eeospeterz did not know11:12
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eeospeterz we need something we can use production11:13
peterzha, sure, then these enterprise thingies are what you are looking for11:13
eeospeterz like?11:14
peterzdapper lts, RHEL, suse enterprise, etc..11:14
peterzthose are the production distos11:14
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eeospeterz ah, yes using 6.06 lts here11:16
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eeospeterz having plenty of problems11:17
eeospeterz but stable have to say11:18
peterzI'm just using kubuntu on a few workstations, nothing that is critical in any way, as long as I don't trash the filesystems every other day11:19
eeospeterz we are on amd64 version on laptop, for everyday work,11:20
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imbrandonubuntu 6.06 is enterprise , thus the lts ( long term support )11:20
imbrandonmaestronove: not a good idea to run irc as root11:20
eeospeterz they should have cleaned amd64 a bit more before releasing to the public, I think11:20
peterzNo idea11:21
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pierre__hello11:28
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pierre__i would like to know how change the text coloration in Kate11:29
INeedHelpanyone know how to make mouse wheel work ?11:29
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krautmoin11:30
internatanyone know how to set the default sound caard in kubuntu>?11:32
eeospierre__  tools> highlighting then you chose the highlighting you need11:33
pierre__non you don't understand11:33
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pierre__i want to chosse my color for the highlighting of the language C11:34
pierre__(choose not chosse)11:34
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pierre__I've opened the c.xml11:35
eeospierre__ do you mean to change them?11:35
pierre__but i don't what i have to change11:35
pierre__eeos escuse but i'm french, can you ask the question with others words please ?11:36
pierre__do you understand my probleme ?11:37
eeospierre__  voulez-vous remplacer les couleurs?11:38
pierre__so for example, i write a .c to program, the words char and long and int (etc.) is in braun11:38
pierre__yes eeos11:38
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eeospierre__ kate > settings > fonts and colours11:40
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eeospierre__ did you get it?11:46
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pierre__i believe you don't understand but not heavy11:50
reiner_hallo11:50
Sola6662yo11:50
pierre__eeos, i've found what you speak11:52
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eeospierre__ and?11:52
pierre__ok it's what i searched11:52
pierre__thanks11:52
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eeospierre__ ok, see you later11:53
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xunqhttp://www.technoradionewyork.com/downloads/week/34/Livesets-t16-73-Richie%20Hawtin%20&%20Ben%20Sims%20-%20Electro%20Tramp%20.mp311:54
xunqhi whu can i download xgl+compiz?11:55
Tm_T!xgl11:56
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:56
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Tm_Txunq: there you go11:56
xunqthnx11:58
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internatok i can get sound in the "test sound" section of sounds and hardware, i can get sound in vlc, but i cant get sound in kaffeine.. any suggetstions?12:02
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lupine_85internat: are you using the right plugin/engine for Kaffeine?12:09
internatxine12:09
duncan_Hello12:09
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internatand i have it set to use alsa, which is what i have sound hardware set up to use in the option12:10
duncan_yesterday I installed my very first thing on open source, a mp3 player ;p12:10
duncan_btw12:10
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duncan_has anyone got a unsupported wifi card working?12:10
lupine_85how unsupported? ;)12:10
duncan_not supported..12:11
duncan_some wifi cards are not supported in linux12:11
duncan_so you have to import windwos drivers and that stufff12:11
lupine_85if there's no native drivers, then ndiswrapper; if ndiswrapper doesn't work, linuxant might - but it costs $2012:11
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lupine_85ok, so try ndiswrapper first - install the latest version from the website, and use the latest drivers for your card from the manufacturer's website12:12
duncan_ok  xD12:12
duncan_is ndiswrapper already pre installed on kubuntU?12:12
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lupine_85no12:12
lupine_85it's in the repos, but you need the most up-to-date version for the best chance of success12:13
duncan_with wich commands can I install ndiswrapper?12:13
lupine_85so get it straight from the website12:13
duncan_is it a .dep file?12:13
duncan_gtg12:13
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duncan_thanks lupine_8512:13
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lupine_85it'll come as a tarball, so compile it :)12:13
lupine_85np12:13
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brotakulhi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!12:20
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ubuntuhi all. What is the best equivalent of beagle (a desktop search engine) for KDE?12:28
ubuntuI know that it was kat but as far as I know the project is stoped.12:28
tsdgeosubuntu: you can use kerry12:29
tsdgeosthat is a beagle frontend to beagle libs12:29
brotakulhi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!12:29
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INeedHelpanyone know how to make mouse wheel work ?12:31
lupine_85SuSE KDE uses Beagle as well12:32
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=== lupine_85 doesn't like Beagle, but it does work
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ubuntukerry is front-end for beagle isn't it? I find beagle quite slow, and it eats a lot of mem. I was looking for a kde alternative but I can do with beagle12:34
ubuntuany news from tenor?12:34
bro__hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!12:35
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sharkkhi, how can i set an enviroment variable permanently?12:43
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sharkkand for all users12:44
RawSewagehow do you burn a DVD, when you have the DVD files, like VIDEO_TS folder12:44
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Bazzijust burn the dir in the top level directory12:46
RawSewageare you sure12:46
Bazziworked for me :)12:46
RawSewageI doubt that will work12:46
Bazziwhy?12:46
RawSewageyou burn VIDEO_TS as the top level directory as a data DVD in k3b?\12:46
RawSewageI dont think thats a good way12:47
RawSewagesomething like that didnt work in Nero12:47
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Bazzialways worked for me in nero12:47
Bazziwell, k3b might have a special "burn dvd movie" method, no?12:48
RawSewageI couldnt find it12:48
RawSewageI'll look again12:48
BazziI havent used k3b myself yet though12:48
Bazzijust nero12:48
RawSewageoh12:49
RawSewageI think it's there12:49
RawSewageFile -  New Project -12:49
RawSewageyes12:49
RawSewagethere it is12:49
RawSewageits nice12:50
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liviuxhi all. Does anyone know which software can replace Cad application in linux sistem?01:00
lupine_85depends what sort of CAD? ;)01:00
lupine_85Inkscape is good for vector drawing01:01
tobias_I love inkscape01:01
tobias_for making flyers and posters01:01
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tobias_its the choice of 1 of three vegan in trondheim :D01:02
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tanghusHas anyone figured out how to make kwalletmanager appear in the systray on Dapper?01:02
lupine_85it does by default for me01:03
tanghusliviux: QCad?01:03
lupine_85has options in the settings tab01:03
liviuxyes, but Inkskape (like some others), it's not for architecture. Qcad. I know. Thanks01:04
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RawSewagehow do you play DVDs01:08
fanfanhi everybody !01:08
RawSewageI just burned one, and Kafffeine says I dont have the proper plugins01:08
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fanfanI have a question about amarok !01:09
tsdgeosthen ask it, if you don't nobody will answer ;-)01:09
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fanfanok, I'd like to know if there is a script or something else to import all the podcasts subscriptions from Apple's iTunes to amarok01:11
tsdgeostry #amarok ;-)01:11
fanfanthanks01:12
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sharkkhow can i set an environment variable for all users?01:16
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RogueXHello01:22
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freemasonIceKnight: where are you from?01:30
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RogueXcan anyone tell me if there is a way to delete a file NOT move it to trash from inside Konqueror?01:39
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RawSewageyes01:41
RogueXRawSewage: How????01:41
RawSewagesettings - configure Konqueror - behavior01:41
osh_RogueX: shift-delete01:41
RawSewageoh, I didnt know about that01:42
RawSewageuse shift-del01:42
RogueXThanks01:42
misieq!flock01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
misieqanyone knows flock?01:44
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alleehi01:45
Tonio_heya allee :)01:45
alleeanyone else here miss the kwallet icon in the systray (dapper + 3.5.4)01:45
alleeH Tonio_ what an accident that we meet here too :)01:46
Tonio_hehe01:46
RogueXCan someone tell me how to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 the repositorys don't seem to show it01:46
Tonio_RogueX: you probably should update to 3.5.4 directly01:46
Tonio_RogueX: you'll find the repos to add on kubuntu.org01:47
RogueXTonio_: I tried that before and it Trashed my box... LOL01:47
Tonio_search in the news to find them01:47
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Tonio_RogueX: ah.... in this case, use the 3.5.3 repo, indeed :)01:47
alleeRogueX: really worked fine here.  What was trashed?01:47
RogueXallee: Machine would not load into KDE any longer01:48
alleeRogueX: mhmm, did you save ~/.xsession-errors for reference?01:48
alleeRogueX: or didn't even kdm/X-server not start?01:49
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RogueXallee: KDM/X would not start01:51
alleeRogueX: on console as too run X and pastebin the error msg01:52
redondo81Hi , i'm a problem to install QtCurve for kde, when I lunch ./configure it give me an error : no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:52
redondo81What can I do?01:52
alleeredondo81: apt-get  install libqt3-mt-dev should do the trick01:52
RogueXallee: I already reloaded system again01:53
redondo81ok, thankyou very much01:53
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alleeRogueX: if you started X only once yes.  You'll find X server output at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old01:53
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RogueXallee: ok so what is the safest way to upgrade KDE?01:55
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alleeRogueX: mhhm, I just added the kubuntu.org 3.5.4 repo and aptitude dist-upgrade     # ah: /var/log/kdm.log  may also contain older X startup messages01:56
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alleeRogueX: /var/log/kdm.log.* that is01:56
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RogueXallee: Is there somewhere for exact steps to do that? Such as repo name, and which files to upgrade?01:57
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alleeRogueX: deb line for sources.list is on kubuntu.org page.  KDE is always best to upgrade together so upgrade all pkgs: aptitude dist-upgrade01:59
alleeRogueX: you know aptitude or are you adept/synaptics user?01:59
RogueXallee: Adept02:00
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Tonio_allee can you confirm bug 57696 plz ?02:00
Tonio_https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/5769602:00
redondo81When I lunch the command apt-get  install libqt3-mt-dev it said to me it cannot find it,why?02:01
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alleeRogueX: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php  has all you need02:01
alleeTonio_,redondo81: one moment02:01
redondo81ok02:01
RogueXallee: Thank you02:01
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kazukisanI have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^02:02
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grotheskHi!02:03
grotheskIs amarok 1.4.2 already available for kubuntu.02:03
alleeredondo81: strange, I had _no_ typo in pkgs:02:03
alleeii  libqt3-mt-dev         3.3.6-1ubuntu6        Qt development files (Threaded)02:03
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alleeredondo81: please cut and paste: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev02:04
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lupine_85grothesk: yes02:05
grothesklupine_85: So where do I find it?02:05
lupine_85I'm using this repo:- deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok02:05
lupine_85but it might be in the official ones by now02:06
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redondo81nothing02:07
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redondo81it's say me that it cannot find that package02:07
redondo81:(02:07
rolandohi, anybody here from poland?02:07
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aliasfred!pl02:09
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl02:09
redondo81everything I say with the command atp-get install it say me that it's impossible to find02:10
rolandook dzeki02:10
redondo81why?02:10
alleeredondo81: good question ...02:10
aliasfredredondo81: likely you have a misconfigured /etc/apt/sources.list02:10
grothesk atp-get ? You mean apt-get...02:10
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redondo81yes yes, sorry02:10
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imbrandongrothesk:02:10
imbrandon!amarok02:10
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/02:10
alleeredondo81: what's the output of grep main /etc/apt/sources.list02:11
redondo81wait I search it02:12
redondo81there are all rows commentated02:12
redondo81with #02:12
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aliasfred!sources02:13
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:13
alleeredondo81: that the problem ;)  uncomment at least the line with dapper main02:13
aliasfredto help you find out which one you should enable02:13
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redondo81dapper main???What is it?I'm a newbie sorry02:13
aliasfred!easysource02:14
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:14
aliasfred!automatix02:14
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:14
aliasfredthose two can help you greatly too02:14
redondo81I have decommentated the rows, I have to restart the system now?02:17
aliasfrednope02:17
alleeredondo81: no. it's not windows02:17
aliasfredjust do 'sudo apt-get update' to update02:17
aliasfredthen the sudo apt-get install yourpackagenamegoeshere' should work02:17
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redondo81great, it works now02:18
redondo81:))02:18
alleeredondo81: as you are new to this:  uncomment the line with 'deb-src ...  main '  too02:18
aliasfredcool :)02:18
redondo81I have already do that02:18
alleeredondo81: then:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get build-dep libqt3-mt-dev02:18
redondo81ok, I have a dial up connection, so I think I have to wait some time02:19
alleeredondo81: cool!  then apt-get build-dep libqt3-mt-dev   will install everything needed to build qt itself.  This should be more than enought to build qtcurve02:19
redondo81thanks very much allee, you're a great friends ;)02:20
alleeredondo81: np. you're welcome02:20
alleebrb02:21
redondo81:)02:21
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redondo81allee: can I ask you another thing?02:25
alleeyeap02:26
redondo81I have a wireless network, but I don't have in system tray the icon to control it02:26
redondo81How can I install it?02:26
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redondo81Allee are you here?02:28
alleeredondo81: I don't use wireless often.  I installed knetworkmanager.  Dapper comes with kwifimanager (k-menu -> internet menu)02:28
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redondo81ok, I'll try to install it02:29
alleeredondo81: there also kwlan somewhere out there. Heart good things about it, have not tried02:30
alleeWLAN, wifi anyone else with good tips for redondo81?02:30
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baldihello02:40
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eeosbaldi hi02:41
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waspiuswhere are the fonts located?02:44
waspiusi have found so many dir but cannot find one which has them all in02:45
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ZinbouBonjour ici :)02:50
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Zinboupersonne , -_-02:50
MishakunHey, y'all. I just installed Kubuntu. Is it me or is the "build-essentials" package missing? It says on documentation under "Programming" that I should install that. But neither Adept or apt has it. ;_;02:52
jkleinhanshello everyone, I'm standing here with my developer letting him preview a Kubuntu machine.  He is interested in switching over to C++ instead of VB.net 2005, is there something he can use in kubuntu to practice/play02:53
Skrotjkleinhans: kdevelop -- it's a IDE for KDE development02:54
eeosZinbou hi there what is the problem02:54
SkrotMishakun: And build-essential is here with me.. :)02:54
Zinbounothing i just test kubunutu live cd ;) it's very great ;)02:54
Zinbou*kubuntu02:54
jkleinhanswell is there anything that can work platform independant?02:55
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MishakunSkrot: Huh? o_02:56
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SkrotMishakun: I've got the package, if I search for it (apt-cache search build-essential)02:56
[GuS] jkleinhans, could use QTdesigner02:57
duncan_Hiya02:57
SkrotSo it should be in the resp.02:57
jkleinhanshmm02:57
MishakunYeah, I tried that. But it won't find it.02:57
jkleinhanshow would I get that going [GuS] 02:57
[GuS] is multiplataform02:57
Skrotsudo apt-get install qt3-designer02:57
[GuS] mmm02:57
[GuS] no necesary02:57
[GuS] there is QT402:57
duncan_Guys, where can I change my resolution?02:57
Mishakunduncan_: System Settings, Display02:58
duncan_ok guys thx!02:58
duncan_Kubuntu ownz!02:58
[GuS] sudo apt-get install qt4-designer jkleinhans02:58
jkleinhanshmm said there was no qt4 package02:58
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[GuS] type that in console...02:59
jkleinhansE: Couldn't find package qt4-designer  [GuS]  this was from kate02:59
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[GuS] kate??02:59
[GuS] kate is a text editor...02:59
jkleinhansthe terminal?02:59
[GuS] Konsole you mean02:59
[GuS] you have enabled repositories in your apt?03:00
jkleinhansI don' tknow what that stuff is [GuS] 03:01
jkleinhans<--- MCSA that's new to linux03:01
[GuS] jkleinhans, you sould read for it then :)03:01
[GuS] new in linux does not mean to not read nothing :)03:01
MishakunAh... Looks like repos were all disabled...03:01
MishakunNo wonder apt-get update was quick. o_o03:02
[GuS] lol Mishakun03:02
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jkleinhanssry I understand things take time03:02
jkleinhansand this is something I'll have to get the hang of03:02
[GuS] of course.03:02
[GuS] but you could search for info anyway :)03:02
jkleinhansand sry to come off w/a spoon-feed-me mentality03:02
duncan_ffs03:03
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duncan_1024*768 is the highest:(03:03
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VincentMXhi03:03
[GuS] edit your /etc/apt/sources.list jkleinhans03:03
Mishakunduncan_: try changing the screen and video card to the most appropriate.03:03
[GuS] with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:03
Mishakuni.e. in the settings03:03
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[GuS] and uncomment the lines before the word "deb"03:04
jkleinhans[GuS] : ok I'm navigating there03:04
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jkleinhansok I've uncommented everything that had "deb" in it03:06
jkleinhanssave changes then apt-get?03:06
Mishakunyeah... don't forget to cross the fingers...03:06
Mishakuncrossing the fingers is very important.03:06
Mishakun:)03:06
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Mishakunit should work at least.03:07
jkleinhanshmm still says same thing03:07
jkleinhansand I even crossed my fingers03:07
duncan_is it normal for a nividia 6800 to have 1024*768 reso?03:07
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[GuS] jkleinhans, did you save the file?03:07
Mishakunduncan_: nope... but what kind of screen do you have?03:07
[GuS] you must do: sudo apt-get update after that03:07
jkleinhans[GuS] : yes but I'll dbl check03:07
duncan_19'' tft philips03:08
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Mishakunah yes... don't forget to apt-get update...03:08
[GuS] control+s to save03:08
duncan_....?03:08
Mishakunduncan_: you need to restart x before you can change the settings after setting the video card in prefs.03:08
jkleinhanshmm all the comments are out of the deb lines03:08
duncan_ok03:09
duncan_log of & log on again03:09
duncan_is that enough?03:09
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MishakunI dunno...03:09
duncan_:s03:09
MishakunI think so.03:09
chopinhow do i access the bootloader settings in kubuntu?03:09
fildohey guys, wondering if anyone has and wiki's or info on the ipw2100 on kubuntu.03:10
jkleinhansI'm just going to nuke this thing and reinstall03:10
jkleinhansmy install was f'd because I wasn't connected to the internet03:10
jkleinhansthx guys and I'll try that designer once I'm done reinstalling03:11
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JohnFluxhow do I install acrobat reader?03:11
JohnFluxplease03:11
JohnFlux!acrobat03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
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[GuS] jkleinhans, reinstalling... for what?03:11
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[GuS] is not windows...03:11
[GuS] you dont need to reinstall...03:11
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chopincan i access GRUB at the bootloader screen or do i have to config it from within kubuntu?03:13
fildo!wireless03:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:13
chopin!grub03:13
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:13
jkleinhans[GuS] : ok...what else could be giving me these messages?03:14
redondo81Hi, I have a problem, when I try to lunch the command ./configure to install QtCurve it tell me I don't have kde headers installed, What can I do?03:14
[GuS] wich ones jkleinhans  ?03:14
jkleinhansthe ones being produced on the apt-get install03:14
[GuS] ok, but WICH ones03:15
jkleinhansI even tried it on qt3-designer and it was the same error03:15
duncan_can someone guide me throught the proces of installing ndswrapper?03:15
redondo81???Anyone can help me please?03:15
jkleinhansE: Couldn't find package qt4-designer [GuS] 03:16
[GuS] jkleinhans, did you type: sudo apt-get update ???????????????????'''03:16
jkleinhansyep03:16
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[GuS] and did you have errors?03:16
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jkleinhansyes, the E: Couldn't find package qt4-designer was the error03:17
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jkleinhansit reads the package lists and builds dependancy trees, then gives me that error03:17
grotheskimbrandon: There is something wrong with your libtunepimp3 packages.03:18
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imbrandongrothesk: fixing now .... give me a few minutes , i just noticed myself03:18
grotheskLOL03:18
[GuS] is not an error03:18
jkleinhansreally?03:19
jkleinhansI'm just a windows dummy huh :)03:19
grotheskAnd I was wondering what went wrong with the installation, imbrandon03:19
[GuS] add this lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:03:19
[GuS] deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse03:19
[GuS] deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multivers03:19
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[GuS] and then sudo apt-get update03:19
[GuS] again03:19
imbrandongrothesk: yea give me a sec to fix it up, shouldent take long03:20
grotheskimbrandon: libtunepimp.so.3.0.0 existed in libtunepimp3 AND libtunepimp3-mp3.03:20
grotheskJust to be sure you did not fix something else...03:20
imbrandonyes they are both supose to , as i said give me a second03:20
jkleinhansok it freaked out again [GuS] 03:21
[GuS] ?03:21
jkleinhanssame message03:21
[GuS] you are nopt doing things right then03:21
jkleinhansbtw I appreciate ur patience and help w/this03:21
[GuS] becase qt3-designer and qt4-designer are there man.03:21
jkleinhansI believe you03:21
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[GuS] what do you to edit that file for example?03:22
imbrandon!info qt4-designer dapper03:22
ubotuqt4-designer: Qt 4 Designer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1323 kB, installed size 3508 kB03:22
imbrandonuniverse03:22
[GuS] yes imbrandon03:22
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[GuS] but i think he is not saving the file...03:23
jkleinhanshmm I added those 2 lines to the top of that file, then saved03:23
[GuS] and after that jkleinhans , what do you do?03:23
imbrandonyou told him add multiverse03:23
jkleinhansI use Ctrl-X and yes03:23
[GuS] imbrandon, read up03:23
[GuS] i told him universe too...03:23
[GuS] so please...03:23
imbrandonok03:23
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[GuS] don't read between lines...03:24
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[GuS] jkleinhans, did you type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list to edit that file?03:24
[GuS] SUDO is important.. bcause is a system file and you need root permission.03:24
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jkleinhans[GuS] : I'm in the current /etc/apt directory and used sudo nano yes03:25
[GuS] good03:25
jkleinhansI'm an old dos guy too so I cd / cd .. etc like crazy03:25
[GuS] then... what do you do? to update the data base of repositories?03:25
[GuS] this is not DOS... and either Windows :P03:26
jkleinhans:)03:26
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jkleinhansthen I open the file, do what you say, quit the file and save on exit03:26
[GuS] and then?03:26
jkleinhansthen sudo apt-get update qt4-designer03:26
[GuS] see?03:26
fritschsomebody has a knowledge of initrds (i bite in the table ... if this goes on ...)03:26
[GuS] wrong!03:26
[GuS] you forgot first03:26
jkleinhansoh no03:26
[GuS] sudo apt-get update03:26
jkleinhansahh03:27
jkleinhansso I just sudo apt-get update 1st then sudo apt-get update qt4-designer?03:27
redondo81Anyone can tell me how to install kde headers?03:27
[GuS] everytime you update your sources.list... you must do sudo apt-get update03:27
jkleinhansdude awsome03:27
jkleinhansits actually doing something now03:27
[GuS] and after that sudo apt-get update qt4-designer03:27
jkleinhansok so Im' assuming03:27
fritschredondo81: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev03:27
[GuS] sorry03:28
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[GuS] i mean sudo apt-get install qt-designer03:28
redondo81thanks03:28
jkleinhansI'm assuming that sources.list is a list of sources kubuntu goes to in order to get packages and updates03:28
[GuS] sudo apt-get install qt4-designer03:28
[GuS] yes jkleinhans03:28
jkleinhansso we made modifications, and in order to have those updated so packages can be added, we need to apt-get update 1st03:28
[GuS] is the "data base" of the repositories and the packages03:28
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jkleinhansahh03:28
[GuS] right03:28
jkleinhansawesome03:28
jkleinhansI learned something today03:29
[GuS] :)03:29
jkleinhansand thank you very much for your time and patience03:29
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[GuS] all this kind of ingo jkleinhans you have in Ubuntu/kubuntu sites.. wikis...03:29
[GuS] info*03:29
imbrandongrothesk: ping03:29
fritschredondo81: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev might help, too03:29
[GuS] jkleinhans, i will help you every time you WANT to learn... but you must read too ;)03:29
jkleinhansok03:30
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jkleinhansI really apprecieate it03:30
grotheskpong! imbrandon03:30
[GuS] :)03:30
jkleinhansshe's installing right now03:30
[GuS] is she? jeje03:30
imbrandongrothesk: fix uploaded , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:30
fritschSomebody know about initrds? support fr it821x module ... can`t get it autoloaded in initrd. will rebuild ubuntu kernel and compile it in ...03:30
imbrandonfritsch: try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-kernel03:31
fritschimbrandon: ty03:31
shenteyhi! libkopete.la is said to depend upon libfam... however, libgamin, which does the same, is installed exclusively03:31
grotheskKUDOS! works imbrandon!03:32
imbrandonyw03:32
shenteyso i can't compile any additional kopete plugin :-(03:32
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shenteyi guess it must be a bug in the kopete-dev package03:32
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mefiXany german house/techno listeners in here?03:33
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=== grothesk ist german... But no house/tecno listener.
larson9999mefix i spent many nights in "the glass house" in kaiserslautern.  does that qualify?03:34
mefiXwould say so03:34
mefiXhttp://www.theshrine.de/03:34
mefiX^03:34
larson9999nice03:35
mefiXi could spend the whole day clicking around03:36
mefiXits so funny03:36
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jkleinhanshmm [GuS] where is this badboy located now lol03:38
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[GuS] ?03:39
jkleinhansbah! I have 100+ updates!03:39
pichi_hello to all03:39
[GuS] for suere03:39
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[GuS] to update your system type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:39
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MetaMorfoziSi'm redesigned my kde (wallpaper, loginscreen, colorscheme, desktop, windeco...) and then, i restarted x, and after the login it started the Kpersonalizer  and tail -f varlogsyslog says can't open default user face03:41
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MetaMorfoziSwhere is the user face?03:41
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jkleinhansok [GuS]  this qt4-designer is a good package?03:44
[GuS] yes03:44
jkleinhansis it good for both linux non-KDE and ??03:44
[GuS] is a GUI development main for c++03:44
[GuS] yes03:44
jkleinhansok we make motion controllers03:44
[GuS] you could port it for win, mac... linux03:45
jkleinhansthat use the serial port03:45
jkleinhansoh wow03:45
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dognewshello everyone03:53
dognewsI want to compile a programm which uses this QtXml thing03:54
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dognewsbut it doesn't work, because he can't find it - there must be a package missing03:54
dognewsdoes anyone of you know which one it could be?03:54
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allee!paste03:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:56
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dognewsubotu: do you mean me?03:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about do you mean me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:56
dognewstest03:57
dognewsubotu: are you a bot?03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
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[GuS] dognews, yes is a bot...........03:57
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dognewslol03:58
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fenixonwitam04:05
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fenixonmam problem - gdy sciagam pliki przez KTorrent, pobieranie staje na 99,6% i nie chce dalej ruszac. Czy zna ktos rozwiazanie tego problemu?04:05
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verbosefenixon: can you say that in english?04:07
fenixonohh sorry04:07
nagyvhello! how could I check which processes take so much processor time that my laptop is unusually slooooow?04:07
verbosenagyv: use top04:07
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Jucatonagyv: or press Ctrl+Esc. whichever you prefer :-D04:08
fenixonwhen i downloading files by KTorrent my downloading is stopping at 99,6%. How to fix it?04:08
fenixonsorry for my ill english04:08
verbosefenixon: that's normal for torrents04:08
verbosejust leave it open04:09
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verboseit will finish eventually04:09
fenixonok thanks ;)04:09
Jucatoor you can try the latest version of KTorrent, which is now happily available in our repositories04:09
spazzhmm what bittorrent client do u guys use?04:09
Jucatodapper-backports repositories, I mean04:09
verbosebut that will not fix your problem04:10
Jucatospazz: I'm quite satisfied with KTorrent ^_^04:10
spazzktorrent the slowest client I have ever used.04:10
spazzwithout a doubt, its THE slowest one ive EVER used lol04:10
Jucatoverbose: it might have been a bug that was fixed in 2.0.104:10
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spazzwas about to install java so i can try azureus.04:10
Glj12arg, help. :(04:10
Glj12make never works for me04:10
Jucatospazz: YMMV... (Your Mileage May Vary)04:10
Glj12Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/.config: No such file or directory04:10
fenixonim downloading files by KTorrent with max speed04:10
Glj12make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/.config'. Stop.04:10
spazzyea, im getting ZERO miles.04:11
Glj12ideas on why it does this to me always?04:11
spazzhighest speed ive seen is like 60kb down.04:11
JucatoGlj12: did you do "./configure" first?04:11
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Glj12no, the install didnt say to04:11
spazzutorrent worked fine in wine before, but now it refuses to work, argh.04:11
JucatoI mean "./configure"04:11
Glj12i mean, do i just type it anywhere?04:11
Jucatospazz: were you the one who had troubles installing the latest KTorrent?04:11
Glj12or go to the dir and do that04:11
spazz... i am the same person you are thinking of, but i got it installed fine.04:12
JucatoGlj12: usually, you go to the directory were you extraced the .tar.gz04:12
spazzi just didnt know where to get it04:12
Jucatospazz: you were just a few days too early04:12
spazzWhat do you mean?04:12
JucatoKTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports... as easy as apt-get now04:12
Glj12Jucato: I did that, but it said the bash thing, not found not a command or w/e04:12
spazzohlol.04:12
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spazzwell i have it now, very dissapointed in it.04:13
JucatoGlj12: did you install the package called "build-essential" ?04:13
spazzcant seem to find anything that rivals utorrent.04:13
spazz:(04:13
Jucatospazz: ehehe... like I said... YMMV04:13
Glj12i guess i'll see if i have that04:13
spazzWhat other client would u recommend?04:13
spazzBesides azureus04:13
spazzand ... how do I get java? which one, the sun version? from apt-get?04:13
Glj12ok, i dont have build-essential installed04:13
Jucatospazz: BitTornado? the only annoying thing about it is 1 window per Torrent04:14
JucatoGlj12: you need to install it04:14
spazz...terminal always gives me errors all the time lol.04:14
Glj12so i install that, then make shoudl work?04:14
spazzI think I've tried bitornado.04:14
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Jucatospazz: first, enable multiverse, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin04:14
JucatoGlj12: it should04:14
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Glj12sweet, thanks04:14
Jucatospazz: never install Sun Java in Adept...04:14
Glj12yeah, i'm just trying to install a driver for my wifi card04:14
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Jucatook... I feel dizzy trying to type as fast as I can talking to two people... @_@04:15
spazzhttp://thepiratebay.org/brwsearch.php?b=1&c=205&d=0&orderby=&page=0&orderby=dl04:15
Glj12lol, thank you04:15
spazzerr where did that come from04:15
Jucatolol04:15
Jucatopaste?04:15
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spazzyea, but .. i copied something from terminal.04:15
Glj12its doing the same thing, sorry Jucato04:15
spazzdidnt work though.04:15
Glj12i hate to bother you04:15
spazz dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:15
Jucatospazz: check your Clipboard, it's probably there04:15
spazzthere.04:15
JucatoGlj12: you were already able to install build-essential?04:16
Glj12yeah04:16
Glj12just did it04:16
erovanyone have KPersonalizer running on each start since kde354 ??04:16
Glj12with adept04:16
Jucatospazz: did you try to install Java in Adept?04:16
spazzno.04:16
erovor know how to stop it :) ?04:16
Jucatoerov: try uninstalling KPersonalizer04:16
spazzi'm doing what it told me to do though in the terminal04:16
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spazz... aw, CRAP.04:16
erovhm..alright04:16
spazztheres ALWAYS errors in linux04:16
spazzomg.04:16
JucatoGlj12: hm....04:17
Glj12lol04:17
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spazzlook :04:17
enzo_Yo Jucato04:17
Jucatohi enzo_! ^_^04:17
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Glj12so no ideas Jucato?04:17
Glj12does it help if i tell you that i am installing a realtek driver?04:17
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2164204:17
Jucatonone, except reading and following the installation instructions...04:17
spazzJucato ^^04:17
Jucatospazz: looking at it..04:18
grotheskIs there any GUI available for dialing in a DSL modem?04:18
Glj12i did Jucato04:18
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erovcd /etc04:19
eroverr04:19
Jucatospazz: what were you trying to install before this happened?04:19
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spazzi didnt try installing anything.04:21
spazznot in that terminal at least.04:21
Jucatohmm...04:21
spazznothing java related04:21
Jucatoeven not in the terminal...04:21
spazzin fact, only things i think ive installed04:21
Jucatobasically dpkg --configure -a is trying to continue/fix a previously interrupted installation04:21
spazzare w32codecs... maybe some other codecs... the latest ktorrent04:21
Jucatohmm...04:21
spazzand.. installed wine through apt-get04:22
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spazzwhich.. now utorrent doesnt work like it was on my last install04:22
Jucatoyou didn't experience any errors in Adept?04:22
spazz... i dont think i used adept.04:22
spazzmaybe i have i cant remember04:22
spazzdo i have to reinstall for like the 3rd time this week? lol04:22
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Jucatook... I'm stumped... I think there's an option in apt-get to fix these things. I'm just not familiar with iit...04:22
Jucatospazz: probably not04:23
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spazzhope not, lol.04:23
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spazzive broken linux so many times.04:23
RawSewagehow do you start Samba04:23
spazzheh if only it were a contest.04:23
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Jucatolol04:23
Glj12RawSewage: Type samba in konsole.04:23
spazzWTF!!!!! Ktorrent just up and randomly crashes04:23
spazzwhile im typing this! ..04:23
spazzthat is the biggest pos program.04:23
RawSewageGlj12, that doesnt work04:23
Glj12mmmm04:24
Jucatospazz: why not remove it if it's giving you so much trouble?04:24
spazzdownloads are never going to finish04:24
debRawSewage: start the process smbd04:24
Glj12then apt-get install samba04:24
spazzbecause i was trying to see if my like 3 downloads would finish04:24
Jucatothen try installing the new one from dapper-backports?04:24
RawSewageGlj12, it's already installed04:24
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debRawSewage: configure smb.conf04:24
spazz8 hours left on one of them thats like 1.2gb04:24
Glj12ok, then do what he said04:24
spazzhate to haev to stop midway through the thing04:24
Jucatospazz: then close it for a while, then try installing from the reps...04:24
RawSewagedeb, configure it how04:24
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RawSewagethats the command?04:24
spazzIt wont get rid of my torrents?04:24
spazzif i try reinstalling it?04:25
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debRawSewage: depends on your comfiguration . What exactly do u wnat to do with samba  ?04:25
Glj12reinstalling doesnt NORMALLY mean removal04:25
RawSewagestart the server04:25
Glj12usually means rewriting the same files over04:25
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Bizzyhey, can someone send me the link for getting mp3 playback in amarok04:25
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spazzi just need to know if my torrents will still be there.. where i cna pick up where i left off04:25
RawSewagedeb, something about init.d04:26
Jucatospazz: hmm...04:26
RawSewagedeb,  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart04:27
RawSewagedeb, ty04:27
debRawSewage: that should work04:27
debRawSewage: try to create a minimal smb.conf file with just a workgroup name in the global section and a tepm share04:28
spazzterminal = deathj04:28
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Jucatospazz: you can always just import existing download04:29
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spazzwished i could use another program to resume the download lol04:29
hughlleany reason why i am unable to access any of my shared folders from my M$ machine?04:29
MuJhughlle: wrong priviliges?04:30
hughllewell when i try and access them it asks for a username and such but i have set to allow all users and guests04:30
hughllethi is my first time with kubuntu and linux on a whole04:31
spazzdamnit. this isnt going to work.04:31
nagyvit's so slow, that I just get to open the System guard. what should I look for now? the VmSize or something else?04:31
spazzevery single time i use the stupid terminal it gives me errors.04:31
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Jucatonagyv: usually vmsize to see what's eating your RAM,04:31
spazzJucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2164504:32
baldicu @ll04:32
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Jucatoimbrandon: does k3b in Edgy get it's splash screen back?04:33
hughllei am trying simple sharing but i am still asked for a username and password, i tried the root password and such from my kubuntu OS but to no avail04:33
Jucatospazz: you have dapper-backports enabled?04:33
spazzi dunno. how do i find out04:33
nagyvJucato: firefox: 163000, Xorg: 129000, mysqld: 126000, I also had amarok with 127000, but I have killed it already04:33
KronosQuestion: Where does StepMania usually install to?04:33
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Jucatospazz: in your sources.list? or in Adept > Adept menu > Manage Repositories04:34
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spazzsecond option sounds easier04:34
spazzlol04:34
Jucatoehehe04:34
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hughllequick question: how do i connect to #quakenet04:34
flaccidevening04:35
Jucatohughlle:  type /join #quakenet04:35
hughlleas in the quakenet server04:35
Jucatoaaah sorry04:35
hughllenot the quakenet channel04:35
Jucatospazz: seems like librsvg has something to do with graphics...04:35
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spazzgraphics, lol thats all i need is graphics problems lol. thats how my last install broke (bad bad BAD ati driver BAD!)04:36
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Jucatospazz: no. not video card graphics. but more of picture/image graphics stuff04:36
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spazzoh.04:37
spazzbackports were enabled04:37
spazzjust checked04:37
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Jucatohas anyone noticed that that the Power Savings bug is back?04:40
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apallo19which bug is that?04:41
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Jucatothe one that Power Saving resets to "enabled" and "30 minutes" after every reboot...04:42
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sizzami'm a kde newb,  whats the best way to create a shortcut to firefox on my panel WITH the firefox icon?04:43
buzright click on the panel04:43
Jucatosizzam: in K Menu, right-click on the Firefox entry and select "Add Item to Main Panel"04:43
nagyvright click on the panel, and go to Panel menu->add application to panel->select it04:43
buzchose panel menu -> add application etc04:43
buz!strigi04:43
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sizzambuz, right now i have a shortcut to firefox, but i cant figure out how to change the icon04:43
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Jucatoor you can also do what they said ^_^04:44
Jucatosizzam: oh you want to change Firefox's icon04:44
buzright click on the icon and you should be able to change it04:44
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buzby clicking on the icon itself in the dialogbox04:44
sizzambuz, oooooh, i see, you click the icon04:44
sizzamthanks!04:44
buzyeah not immediately obvious i guess04:44
flaccidmy screen is a bit cut off the bottom on my notebook04:45
Kr4t05Does anyone here have Stepmania?04:45
buzyou sure you use the right resolution?04:45
flaccidyep04:45
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sizzamwhat would you all say is the most common kde mail client,  kmail?04:45
buzkmail04:45
sizzamok04:45
buzor thunderbird for those who dont like kmails crashyness04:46
Kr4t05sizzam: yeah, but you can easily get thunderbird04:46
sizzamcool, i'll get thunderbird, im used to that04:46
flaccidit only seems to be cut off with the bottom of kicker04:46
buzbe sure to look for plastikfox theme04:46
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buzthat way it should look mostly like kde04:46
JucatoI'm just curious: if you were a beginner to KDE/Kubuntu, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, and only had the Trash applet in Kicker, how do you "easily" create a Trash shortcut on the desktop?04:46
buzcan anyone recommend a good search engine that unlike beagle wont trash my whole system all the time04:47
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flaccidah its the normal size of the panel04:48
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flacciddoesn't fit icons04:48
flaccidfixed04:48
flaccidhow can i access my fedora partitions?04:48
Jucatohmm.... search engine...04:48
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nicolasorry I have som problem with amarok and mp3... can anyone help?04:49
JucatoKerry? Kat? locate:/ ??04:49
Jucatonicola: can't play MP3's?04:49
nicolayes04:49
nicolai suppose i have to install xine plugins04:49
cozomoI need a system monitor, any suggestions?04:49
Jucatonicola:  you need to install "libxine-extracodecs". you will only see this package when you enabled "multiverse"04:49
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:49
cozomo(running dapper drake)04:49
brotakulcozmo: superkaramba04:50
buzkerry is beagle04:50
Jucatocozomo: Try KSysGuard?04:50
buzkat doesnt work for all i know04:50
nicolaand how will i enable multiverse?04:50
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:50
buzid love to try strigi but i cant get it to build04:50
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cozomojucato: is there anyway I could get that to doc onto my desktop or something?04:50
nicolathank you very much04:51
flaccidcan anyone help me work out out to mount the fedora LVM, is it possible04:51
Jucatocozomo: oh you want something on your desktop? you could probably go for a Superkaramba them04:51
Jucatotheme*04:51
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cozomojucato: should I google that or do you have a link?04:52
Jucatonicola: just be sure that you add "multiverse" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and not to the ones with "dapper-backports"04:52
Jucatocozomo: superkaramba can be installed from the repositories. you can look for themes in http://www.kde-look.org04:52
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brotakulprobably it sounds stupid, but is there any script to auto compile sources? i'm new with linux and didn't yet succesfuly compiled sources and it would be much easyer. something like gdebi installer or something...04:53
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lupine_85depends how the sources are packaged04:53
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lupine_85"make" is the usual method04:53
lupine_85significantly easier than doing it by hand!04:54
brotakuli always get errors on compiling... something like: "no files or directories. stop."04:54
Kr4t05brotakul: Try using sudo04:54
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lupine_85you just need to make sure your sources are good, and your build environment is right04:54
redondo81Anyone now how I can install automake1.6 for kde?04:55
Kr4t05!compiling > brotakul04:55
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brotakulnot even convert from sources to .deb? something like alien...04:55
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nagyvI can do nothing with my high CPU load. I already restarted X, but even this didn't helped, is there an other solution than restarting the system?04:55
brotakulKr4t05: english is not my mother language, sorry. i'm doing my best here :P04:56
Kr4t05brotakul: you could use dpkg, but you'd still have to compile the source.04:56
brotakulok04:56
redondo81???How Install automake for kde?04:56
Kr4t05brotakul: have you run the ./configure script?04:56
brotakulyes04:57
brotakul./configure -> make -> make install04:57
Kr4t05brotakul: Has it given you any errors about dependancies?04:57
Kr4t05brotakul: place "sudo" before the "make install"04:57
brotakulnot about dependencies, it sais it couldn't find "make"04:57
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flaccidhmm so can anyone help me with mount a fedora lvm ?04:57
Kr4t05brotakul: Oh...04:57
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spazzWonder if IPv6 will make bittorrent slow.04:58
Kr4t05brotakul: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:58
spazzor makes it*04:58
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lupine_85spazz: it only affects DNS lookups04:58
spazzmaybe should disable it. oh.04:58
lupine_85so, no, basically04:58
brotakuli already installed build-essential04:58
Jucatospazz: usually, if you don't use IPv6, it's a good idea to disable it...04:58
Kr4t05brotakul: pastebin the console output.04:59
spazzyea im going to eventuallytoday04:59
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brotakulKr4t05: i'm not compiling anything now, just wondering why i cant compile in general...05:00
Jucatohas anyone noticed that that the Power Savings bug is back? the one that Power Saving resets to "enabled" and "30 minutes" after every reboot...05:00
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nicolamp3 problem solved! Thank you very much!!05:00
trappistbrotakul: you've installed build-essential and it says make isn't found?05:01
brotakultrappist: yes05:01
Jucatonicola: glad to hear that :-D05:01
trappistbuild-essential depends on make - that definitely shouldn't happen05:02
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trinhconghi05:03
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flaccidrightio i have mounted it05:03
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flaccidnow i was a fedora kde guy and now am on kubuntu05:03
flaccidi have my /home/flaccid05:04
flaccidshould i just copy it across and log back in and see if the .kde etc works?05:04
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cutepinkbunniesanyone know where this qt4-designer went? I just installed it05:04
Jucatocutepinkbunnies: can't find it in K Menu?05:05
MuJalt-f2 -> designer05:05
Jucatocutepinkbunnies: type this in Konsole: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the error messages)05:05
cutepinkbunniesok that's done05:06
cutepinkbunniesits not in the k menu05:06
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Jucatohmm..05:07
cutepinkbunniesahh she's working now05:07
cutepinkbunniesthank you all05:07
cozomoJucato: whenever I try to install a lot of things from kde-look, in the ./configure they always end with: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!05:07
nagyvI get an Error - KPanel message at every login. How could I find out where does it come from?05:07
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Jucatocozomo: I'm not sure about that. I haven't tried installing KDE headers nor do I know where they are.. sorry05:08
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Jucato^_^05:08
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Jucatohave you tried asking where the KDE headers are?05:09
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JucatoCan't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:09
flaccidhow can i mount so that my ubuntu user (flaccid:1000) can access the old fedora /home/flaccid which is flaccid:50 uid05:09
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flaccidthis didn't seem to work sudo mount -O uid=1000 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /mnt/fc305:10
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redondo81Hi, I downloaded a set of icon for my kde theme, but I don't know how to install theme, in the folder there's only a index.desktop file05:13
redondo81Hos can I install them?05:13
ccc_redondo81: system settings > appearance > icons... install the theme from there05:13
Jucatoredondo81: did that icon them come in a .tar.gz file?05:13
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redondo81yes05:14
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Jucatoredondo81: ok, first, don't extract it05:14
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Jucatoredondo81: now, go to System Settings > Appearance > Icons options then click on Install New Theme05:14
redondo81ok, all done, thank you very much05:14
Jucatothat's kool (and fast)! :-D05:15
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rkdwhen i attempt to use the python2.4-kde3 bindings to get a kfile.KURLRequester object, my program segfaults; any suggestions on what to do?05:16
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flaccidpossible to run Xvnc/vnc on :0 ?05:18
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flaccid!sources05:18
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:18
flaccid!wizard05:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wizard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
grothesk_How do I update nvidia drivers? Or should I wait untill new kernel-modules are provides by ubuntu?05:19
Jucato[Away] grothesk_: better wait for it to become available through the repositories... unless you are feeling quite adventurous...05:19
flaccidhmm where is that source wizard05:19
Jucato[Away] flaccid: what source wizard?05:20
lupine_85you can install the onrd provided from the nvidia site, but they're a pain to keep updated05:20
flaccidgenerator sources.list05:20
lupine_85every time your kernel updates, you have to re-install05:20
grothesk_Jucato[Away] : Will they be available? I'm not so sure about it...05:20
Jucato[Away] !easysource05:20
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:20
flaccidthanks05:20
trinhcongplease tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux05:20
lupine_85and occasionallu you get other, harder-to-fix, problems05:20
grothesk_lupine_85: I know that.05:20
trinhcongplease tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux05:20
Jucato[Away] grothesk_: eventually they will, but probably not in Dapper, as Edgy is around the corner05:20
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trinhcongplease tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux05:20
lupine_85then what is your real question? :)05:21
Jucato[Away] hm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N with a tilde? @_@05:21
lupine_85trincong: download and burn a copy of the live cd05:21
grothesk_trinhcong: Read through the documentation...05:21
trinhcongi have setup unbutu05:21
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trinhcongbut i don't know how to run some application05:22
grothesk_trinhcong: So please ask something more specific.05:22
trinhconghow to setup some softwares?05:22
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trinhcongfor example, i want to play music05:22
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lupine_85install and run amarok05:23
lupine_85use adept to install software05:23
Jucato[Away] (amarok is installed by default...)05:23
lupine_85oh, ok :)05:23
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Jucato[Away] ^_^05:24
Jucato[Away] ok, I'm really away now... ^_^05:24
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flaccidcan you apt-get get a .deb for knetstats?05:25
RawSewageno05:25
RawSewagedeb uses dpkg05:25
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flaccidwondering if its in a source05:25
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RawSewagedid you try  apt-get knetstats05:26
flaccidyep05:26
RawSewageI mean  sudo apt-get install knetstats05:26
flaccidyeah05:26
RawSewagewhat happened05:26
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flacciddoesn't exist05:27
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trinhcongi can not use amaroK to play MP3 file :(05:27
trinhcong??05:27
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RawSewagetheres knet05:28
lupine_85you need to install the mp3 codecs05:28
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lupine_85try easyubuntu05:28
lupine_85!easyubuntu05:28
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:28
RawSewageflaccid, do you want:05:28
RawSewageA small application that docks in the systray and monitors the activity and05:28
RawSewagelink status of the selected network interface. Supports session management.05:28
RawSewageRequires Linux 2.6.x.05:28
flaccidsounds like it thanks05:28
flaccidlets see05:28
RawSewagethat would be  knetdockapp05:29
RawSewagefor knet05:29
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RawSewageflaccid, oh   http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/05:30
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RawSewagejust download the .deb from there05:31
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RawSewageTo get the packages via apt-get add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:05:31
RawSewagedeb http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/ ./05:31
RawSewagedeb-src http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/ ./05:31
flaccidok thanks05:31
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flaccidhmm 404 on those URLs05:33
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RawSewageoh05:34
flaccidhe must not have them there anymore05:34
flaccidhttp://www.0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/knetstats_1.3.1-1_i386.deb05:34
RawSewageIm not getting a 40405:34
flaccidreally05:34
RawSewageI have it05:35
RawSewageit downloaded for me05:35
flaccidthe link i pasted or http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/05:35
RawSewagethe link you pasted05:35
flaccidyeah05:35
RawSewagethe .deb downloaded05:35
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flaccidbut the deb src list is 40405:35
RawSewageoh05:35
flaccidall good05:36
RawSewagethe last link was 40405:36
RawSewageI guess it needs a www.05:36
flaccidthats what i thought at first but the dir doesn't exist05:36
flaccidsame host05:36
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RawSewageweird05:37
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flaccidyeah05:37
flaccidmust of moved/deleted them05:37
_martinterminsal reports lpstat as a command not found... what am I missing or is currupt? is it cupsys?05:37
RawSewagebut the deb is in that folder05:37
flaccidoh its the same directory05:37
flaccidwtf05:37
flaccidyeah05:37
flaccidlol05:37
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RawSewageits a fake 40405:38
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RawSewageI mean a custom page05:38
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RawSewageno05:39
RawSewageoh well05:39
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trappist!enter05:39
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.05:39
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flaccidit outputs 404 weird05:39
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flaccidif there was no index it would be forbidden05:39
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erikanyone in here good at HTML?05:41
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flacciderik: yes05:46
_martinis lpstat a command with cupsys?05:46
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flaccid!mp305:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:47
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_martin!lpstat05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lpstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
erikflaccid: do you know how I make a file load automatically (not embedded in the web page, just as if you click on a file link) when viewing a html page05:47
_martin!cupsys05:48
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:48
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flacciderik: http post upload?05:52
flaccidmp3 support for amarok05:52
flaccid?05:52
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lupine_85depends which engine you're using05:52
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erikflaccid: http post upload?05:52
flacciderik: you would need to have a form05:53
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flaccideven if its hidden05:53
erikok05:53
Jucatoflaccid: libxine-extracodecs05:53
erikthanx05:53
flaccidty Jucato05:53
lupine_85try using xine and libxine-extracodecs05:53
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lupine_85too slow :/05:53
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mackanthe extracodecs aint in the repos.. Download from google05:53
mackan(search with google and download from finding) :)05:53
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Jucatomackan: they are in the repos05:53
Jucatoyou just need to enable multiverse05:54
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mackanis that so05:54
Jucatomackan: yes05:55
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mackani didnt find em even if i did add the multiverse05:55
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Jucatomackan: you probably enabled the wrong multiverse repositories05:55
dr_willis!info libxine-extracodecs05:55
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:55
mackananyways its sold05:55
mackansolved*05:55
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mackanJucato: prob05:55
maxush 'start or install kubuntu' freezes my vm. anyone know why?05:55
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dr_willis'vm' ?05:56
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maxushvirtual machine05:56
dr_willisand which vm may this be?05:56
maxushVMware05:56
soulrideri got VMware05:56
maxushthe workstation05:56
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maxushi just downloaded the kubuntu install cd today05:57
Jucatohm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N with a tilde? @_@05:57
Mehercle05:58
dr_willis!vmware05:58
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:58
JucatoMehercle: yeah, that...05:58
Meherclecaps lock, and then place a 05:58
Jucatoerr...05:58
dr_willisHmm..  not noticed a wiki for using ubnut under vmware yet. :P05:58
Jucatolet me rephrase that....05:58
Jucatohm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N/n with a tilde? @_@05:58
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maxushi was hoping that vmware wasnt the problem05:59
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Jucatothere are available VMWare appliances for Kubuntu/Ubuntu...05:59
maxushhmm05:59
Jucatobut I think the one for Kubuntu 6.06 is down...05:59
Jucatonot really sure05:59
maxushwell, memtest works.. but that's it06:00
JucatoMehercle: how do I do that? T_T06:01
MehercleCaps lock06:01
Mehercleand then press ~06:01
Mehercleand then press n06:01
Jucato~n ?06:01
Mehercleno06:01
Mehercle06:01
Jucato~N06:01
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Mehercle06:01
troyMehercle: only works on certain keyboard types06:01
JucatoMehercle: I don't even know how to do the small one...06:01
Meherclei hav a belgian keyboard06:02
Jucatooh...06:02
Mehercleazerty06:02
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JucatoIn Windows, I used to press Alt+164 or 165 for those characters...06:02
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soulriderfor what chars?06:02
soulriderfor   ?06:02
maxush06:02
soulriderah06:03
maxush:p06:03
soulrideri got in it my keyboard :P06:03
soulrider 06:03
JucatoT_T06:03
soulrider 06:03
soulrider:P06:03
Jucatogrrr06:03
soulriderbut i dont have ~06:03
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soulriderin widnows i make it with alt 12606:03
soulriderbut i dunno if it works here06:03
maxushalright, i'm just gonna burn this disk and try it on my comp06:03
troyJucato: there's a kde program that'll let you select those characters from a list, I'm looking for its name06:03
soulriderkcharselect06:04
b0uncerhi all..erm I can't seem to install any more packages using apt, after trying to install "taskjuggler", which can't even be removed anymore06:04
troyJucato: apt-get install kcharselect06:04
Jucatotroy: KCharSelect, I think?06:04
soulrideri got it istalled06:04
Jucatolol06:04
soulriderits like charmap in redmond06:04
soulrideranyways, im going! goodbye!06:04
Jucatocan I use keyboard shortcuts there, instead of having to point and click?06:04
troythere is/was also a kicker applet that did the same thing (very nicely I might add), but I don't know where it's off to in kubuntu06:04
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b0uncerif somebody has an idea how to kick apt so it removes the package..please tell06:05
Meherclein package kicker-applets i guess06:05
b0unceror any idea06:05
fdovingb0uncer: what package?06:05
b0uncerfdoving: taskjuggler06:06
b0uncerapt stopped installing it before it got finished, now it's telling me the package is "in a bad state" and refuses to do anything :/06:06
b0uncerI can't install it, remove it, purge nor update it. And I can't install any other software either06:07
lupine_85have you tried -f ?06:07
fdovingb0uncer: what about 'dpkg -P package' ?06:07
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RawSewagedo  sudo dpgk -a config06:08
RawSewageI think thats the command06:08
b0uncerfdoving: it's telling me this:06:08
RawSewageor is it dpkg config -a06:08
b0uncerPackage is in a very bad inconsistent state06:08
b0uncerthen asks me to reinstall it first -- which I cannot do, it spits an error06:08
b0uncerRawSewage: I already tried that06:08
RawSewageok06:09
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fdovingb0uncer: what error does it give when installing?06:09
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gan|y|medhello06:10
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b0uncerfdoving: first the normal stuff, then after unpacking "touch: missing file operand", a dpkg warning, touch-error again, then "error while cleaning up", and finally sub-process dpkg returned an error code (1)06:11
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dr_willis_yea... going through a ' Joys of windows moment.... wife wants YahooMessenger installed on this pc.. the thing  sort of runs.. then exits.. no message, no error... Joy' Heh06:11
josh__anyone know a good place to find a tutorial on setting up proftp?06:12
fdovingb0uncer: ok, then i don't know. i have to go, going out having a beer with my gf.06:12
b0uncerok06:12
gan|y|medxine is damn slow here... is this a problem of the xserver update? my kernel is custom, but it is slow with the standard kernel, too. only totem works (what i don't understand, as i thought it uses xine as well). it is also not related to the fglrx module as it used to work with dapper in the beginning.06:12
josh__dr_willis_: just use kopete,gaim,centericq06:12
gan|y|medany ideas?06:12
b0uncerthanks anyway06:12
fdovingjosh__: proftpd.org maybe?06:12
josh__yeah i looked at that and its not what i was looking for06:12
josh__anyone used compiz on kubuntu?06:13
b0uncerjosh__: I have06:14
b0unceronce06:14
josh__it work nice?06:14
josh__guess not lol06:14
b0unceryeah, but you need a good gfx card06:14
gan|y|mednobody has problems playing videos with xine (no matter what frontend)?06:14
b0uncerit had some bugs but not anything "big"06:14
Jucatogan|y|med: no problems here....06:14
b0uncergan|y|med: no, I just played dvds and mpeg videos ok06:14
DaSkreechJucato: I think that's what Skim is for.  I could be worong I have no idea how the Scim system works06:14
boeroe_hello new tu kubuntu. downloades gnupg and try to compile but there was no cc compiler06:14
gan|y|medused to work here too. i dont understand this06:14
josh__ok ill get compiz and see if it works better here then it did on my gnome desktop06:14
boeroe_where can i get the cc compiler06:15
JucatoDaSkreech: ok... I'll take a look into it... but it's kinda silly that I have to install a whole package just to be able to type 2 special characters...06:15
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b0uncerjosh__: what was your problem with gnome desktop + compiz?06:15
DaSkreechJucato: It's there already06:15
DaSkreechFreedesktop.org06:15
Jucatooh yeah lol06:15
boeroe_i like to compile a gnupg source  but i have no cc compiler06:15
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DaSkreechCheck utilites06:15
boeroe_where do i get it?06:15
flaccidhow to get dual display going for ati radeon06:15
Jucatoboeroe_: install "build-essential"06:16
dr_willis_josh__,  but she wants the features that ONLY the official has... sadly06:16
DaSkreechJucato: Again honestly no one has explained itto me and I wish there was a good wiki page on it06:16
DaSkreech!skim06:16
ubotuskim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 2640 kB06:16
josh__it didn't work right, it would always flip to the next screen (couldn't go halfway and look at 2 screens at once, half the plugins didn't work, etc.06:16
DaSkreech!scim06:16
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM06:16
gan|y|medany ideas why i get all this stuff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2165306:16
dr_willis_josh__,  im not sure when Instant Messenging became "voice/video chatting"  :)06:16
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RawSewageboeroe_, what about kgpg06:16
boeroe_jucato: is taht a shell command?06:16
josh__dr_willis what options is she looking for?06:16
gan|y|medit says xine-lib is not installed which is impossible06:16
JucatoDaSkreech:  isn't Skim for CJK only?06:16
b0uncerjosh__: well it did work fine on my Gnome desktop, maybe it's not about the desktop but something else (hardware? drivers?)06:16
josh__just chat, or does she want video and all that too?06:16
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Jucatoboeroe_: no. look for the package in Adept06:16
DaSkreechJucato: Again never been explained to me06:16
josh__possibly06:16
boeroe_what is adep?06:17
josh__i was using ATI....06:17
boeroe_adept?06:17
josh__adept = apt-get06:17
RawSewagekgpg is good06:17
Jucatoboeroe_: the Package Manager, what you use to install things06:17
boeroe_oke will check kpg06:17
RawSewagekgpg06:17
RawSewagenot kpg06:17
gan|y|medjosh__: the definition is a little bit simple, isn't it :)06:17
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josh__lol06:17
josh__yeah just alittle :P06:18
boeroe_oke thx will try ap- get to will ahve to doenload it i think06:18
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josh__no adept is your apt-get06:18
josh__its your package manager06:18
RawSewagesudo apt-get install kgpg06:18
gan|y|medand simple again....06:18
josh__if you dont have that you dont have a debian based linux (kubuntu/ubuntu/debian/etc...)06:18
josh__lol06:18
josh__boeroe_: what are u trying to do/get?06:19
boeroe_oke so sudo apt-get install kpg is the command ...06:19
RawSewageno06:19
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RawSewagesudo apt-get install kgpg06:19
gan|y|medplease, could anybody have a look at this if you have some time for some 5 fps stressed student: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2165306:19
boeroe_ok thx rawSewage06:19
josh__what am i about to be looking at  gan|y|med06:19
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josh__what are you trying to do? install xine?06:20
gan|y|medokay, again:06:20
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gan|y|medwhat i am trying: to watch anything at all.06:20
Jelleganthey, room.06:20
josh__gotcha06:20
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josh__ok, do a sudo apt-get install xine-totem06:21
gan|y|medwhat i am getting: 2fps (that's optimistic!). except i play a video with totem, what i don't understand.06:21
josh__then do the sudo apt-get install w32codecs06:21
josh__u might also want to get the gstreamer plugins too06:21
Jelleganthey, I did a fresh kubuntu dapper install and now I need help getting online.  I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant working.06:22
gan|y|medi have done all this. look at the link, please. xine-check complains about xine not being installed06:22
josh__do a "locate gxine"06:22
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josh__do you see one in your /usr/share/ directry?06:23
gan|y|medjosh__: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/gxine.desktop06:23
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gan|y|medjosh__: /usr/share/app-install/icons/gxine.png06:23
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gan|y|medthat's all06:23
josh__then its not installed06:23
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gan|y|medi have already reinstalled, nothing works. extracodecs is installed06:23
josh__you should have a /usr/share/gxine file06:24
gan|y|medbut i think it has sth. to do with the x server06:24
josh__nope06:24
gan|y|medwhy?06:24
gan|y|medi am using kaffeine, normally06:24
josh__if you dont have /usr/share/gxine, you dont have it installed06:24
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gan|y|medbut isn't gxine just a frontend...06:24
josh__yeah it is06:24
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gan|y|medbut i have xinelib-main106:25
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josh__do sudo apt-get install gxine06:25
fallendamnationhello?06:26
josh__hello06:26
fallendamnationAnyone know how to get WMV to work with Kaffeine?06:26
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gan|y|medok, i am. but what's the point of having backends and frontends if you have to install both anyway (and i am not using gnome)06:26
b0uncertaskjuggler-problem solved...just found a forum page from the community, somebody had taken a closer look and found out the post-remove script of taskjuggler is crap06:26
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Jucatofallendamnation: install the w32codecs06:26
josh__apt-get install w32codecs06:26
b0uncerthanks for everyone, and good bye \o06:26
Jucatojosh__: it aint in the repos06:26
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Jucato!w32codecs > fallendamnation06:27
josh__Jucato: you have to add the repos multiverse and universe06:27
fallendamnationi just got Kubuntu yesterday06:27
Jucatojosh__: still not there. trust me06:27
fallendamnationgot fed up with windows06:27
josh__!easysource06:27
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:27
josh__go there and add all the repos06:27
DaSkreechfallendamnation: Sooo you fell into damnation?06:27
Jucatojosh__: source-o-matic will add the PLF repos, and it's there06:27
Jucatobut not in Ubuntu's repos06:27
gan|y|medi dont get this, i have removed xine-ui and now xine-check is missing06:27
fallendamnationyep could not stand windows any longer06:27
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josh__you removed the xine-ui?06:28
fallendamnationjeez cant believe how well kubuntu runs06:28
josh__or the apt-get install gxine removed it?06:28
Jellegantfallen, you said you just installed?06:28
fallendamnationyes06:28
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Jellegantdo you have 'nix experience?06:29
fallendamnationhaving problems with flash as well06:29
fallendamnationwith windows yes06:29
Jellegantwhat's the flash issue?06:29
fallendamnationwell im not sure how to install it06:29
JellegantAHA!06:29
Jellegantokay.06:29
JellegantI can help.06:30
josh__apt-get install gset-compiz06:30
fallendamnationis it compatible with konquerer?06:30
Jellegantyou have a few options.06:30
JellegantI don't use konquerer.06:30
JellegantI use firefox.06:30
gan|y|medjosh__: damn slow. nothing has changed06:30
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fallendamnationi used firefox as well06:30
josh__hmm...06:31
fallendamnationwell firefox and maxthon06:31
josh__lemme look at something06:31
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Jellegantfallen:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/06:31
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josh__ok gan|y|med, youve installed gxine and the w32codecs right?06:32
lupine_85it's compatible06:32
josh__the the locate gxine06:32
josh__make sure gxine is in the /usr/share directory06:32
josh__where can i find the gset-compiz?06:33
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gan|y|medw32codecs = xine-etracodecs, right?06:33
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Tokeiito!paste06:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:33
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Jucatogan|y|med: no06:33
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josh__nope06:34
gan|y|med: /usr/share/gxine06:34
Jelleganthey, people, anybody know about Wpa-Supplicant?06:34
josh__w32codecs are the .avi,mp3,mpeg,etc...06:34
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josh__ok go to multimedia and click on gxine06:34
gan|y|medi know that i have installed them manually, and i have not removed them06:34
Jucatojosh__: err... w32codecs are WMA/WMV, MOV, RM...06:35
josh__try playing a video, tell me what the error says when you try to open something (if there is one06:35
Tokeiitocan it be problems with CD format? :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2165606:35
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josh__Jucato: doesn't that also have the avi, mp3 and stuff?06:35
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josh__r is that only the non-free w32codecs?06:35
Jucatojosh__: libxine-extracodecs (in Kubuntu) handles the mp3 and mpeg and AVI stuff06:36
josh__ahh06:36
larson9999you can put about: ???? in the url in mozilla to edit a configuration file but i can't remember what it is.  anyone here know?06:36
gan|y|medthere is no error message it is just damn slow06:36
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lupine_85about:config ?06:36
gan|y|med70 % cpu time06:36
josh__.....06:36
josh__whats your cpu specs?06:37
lupine_85libxine-extracodecs ?>06:37
josh__your not like running a p 2 with 64 meg of ram are u? lol06:37
gan|y|medenough. i used to work flawlessly, again, i think it is related to an x server upgrade. (just for the records: pentium m 1.86, fglrx)06:37
Jucatojosh__: libxine-extracodecs is the non-free codecs package for Kubuntu06:37
gan|y|med1 gig of mem06:38
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larson9999lupine_85: thanks.  i knew it was easy.  by the way, got any idea what something like that wouldn't be easier to find in the documentation?  imo it should even be something you get to from the menu06:38
josh__oh ok Jucato06:38
josh__lol lupine_8506:38
lupine_85usable documentation? Not likely...06:38
gan|y|medi have no vx support (never had)06:38
josh__gan, when was the last time you did a apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade?06:38
gan|y|mednever06:39
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larson9999lupine_85: heck i remember when a friend got a computer with 256k ram thinking that was a ton of ram.06:39
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gan|y|medi mean, i us adept or synaptic06:39
josh__lol i remember when no one thought we would need more then 16k of ram.... lol06:39
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gan|y|medthey do the same i know06:39
lupine_85argh, beaten! ;)06:39
josh__ok do the apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade06:39
josh__just to make sure06:39
larson9999i still use my c64 almost daily06:40
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gan|y|medon tuesday i upgraded to the broken xorg-server package. afterwards upgraded to the one that is supposed to work06:40
intelikeywhat am i missing in ubuntu isn't there supposed to be a way to adjust gdm settings graphicly ?06:40
josh__lol06:40
Tokeiitohow to fix this: [17181115.420000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.06:40
dr_willis_larson9999,  heh - if ya need any parts i got plenty for C64's06:40
gan|y|medok, is this what adept does?06:40
gan|y|medi don't wanna risk becoming a beta tester :)06:41
gan|y|mednot with this pc06:41
josh__yeah basically, i just never use the adept manager so im not sure or its capabilities (i like the commandline better)06:41
larson9999dr_willis_: i'm all set with stock c64 stuff.  got any ram extentions, or 3rd party hardware?06:41
troygan|y|med: it was a broken package, not a broken adept06:41
gan|y|medi haven't said anything like this...06:41
troyintelikey: yes, for kdm there is - have no clue about gdm06:42
Jucatogan|y|med: no. it's not something with Adept. there was really a broken upgrade which was replaced by a fixed one 12 hours later06:42
gan|y|medso it means get the packages.gz and update all available packages, right?06:42
gan|y|medagain, i haven't said anything about a broken adept!06:42
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intelikeyi wonder why it's not showing up in gnome-control-center ???06:43
gan|y|medi know it was the package. and i appreciate the quick response (have been windows user for years)06:43
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troyintelikey: you'd probably want to ask in #ubuntu... #kubuntu is kde related stuff :)06:43
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josh__intelikey: why what isn't showing up where?06:44
dr_willis_larson9999,  Hmm.. i got a card extender. that lets ya have 4 cards pluged in  and switch between them06:44
intelikeyand yes i know that's a #ubuntu question.   but i haven't be in #ubuntu sense they banned me for answering questions.06:44
Jucatogan|y|med: I thought you were asking about "if that is what Adept does" in relation to what happened. sorry06:44
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intelikeybe/been06:44
gan|y|medso what is xine-config?06:44
anaskiushello can you help me which one i should install 64 bit kubuntu or 32 bit?06:44
josh__the configuration for gxine06:44
Jucatointelikey: they banned you for answering questions?06:44
Jellegant32bit.06:44
josh__anaskius: u have a 64 bit processor?06:44
troyanaskius: 64bit, because the more people that use it, the better it'll be06:44
anaskiusyes06:44
josh__then 6406:45
intelikeyjosh__ anything dealing with the login greeter gdm thingy06:45
gan|y|medanaskius: is your hardware 64 bit based (like athlon 64)?06:45
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anaskiusbut ive heard it has its problems06:45
dr_willis_larson9999,  i got some of the origianl GEOS software still shrinkwrapped. :)06:45
josh__intelikey: that is kinda general there bud... what exactly are we talking about?06:45
larson9999dr_willis_: navarone?06:45
JellegantI have an amd 64 and I use the 32 bit.06:45
troyanaskius: however, you may have problems with certain things on occasion where there exists only 32bit software for linux (especially proprietary programs/plugins)06:45
intelikeyJucato yeah with the answer that wasn't the *ubutnu* way06:45
Jucato @_@06:45
dr_willis_larson9999,  not sure - its some rather rough looking  expansion card. :P that ive never used.. I may have a CPM cartridge also.06:45
gan|y|medxine-config???? any ideas? this thing make me crazy...06:45
dr_willis_but no software for it.06:45
larson9999dr_willis_: the value on geos went down since the released for free as in free beer06:45
dr_willis_larson9999,  value means nothing to me. :p06:46
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gan|y|medwell, there are two updates available, none of which is related to X06:46
intelikeyjosh__ any way to change it.   there is no mentions of it06:46
troyanaskius: I am using the 64 bit version right now with no problems :)06:46
anaskiusthanks bye06:46
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Jellegantthat was quick.06:46
Jelleganttroy, seriously?06:46
intelikeyjosh__ how would you enable/disable timed login in gdm ?06:47
josh__u want to change the login screen huh.... only way i know about doing that is through the gnome panel in ubuntu, when you log in (you have both dekstop versions right?) do a sudo apt-get install gnome-art06:47
Tokeiitodoese linux support joilet CD format?06:47
intelikeyor automatic login ?06:47
josh__.... dont know about that06:47
josh__never tried it06:47
Jellegantyou set progs like firefox to 32 bit?  does 64 run any better than 32?06:47
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troyJellegant: yeah... the only thing that gave me a headache was flash, and after some tinkering, I discovered that unlike firefox, 32bit flash can work with 64bit konq :)06:47
Jelleganthmmmm.....06:48
larson9999dr_willis_: have you seen the things they are still doing with the c64?  hard drives, 20cpu, high speed internet, newer gui, cdrom drive,  just about any drive actually.06:48
Jellegantbut I like firefox.06:48
troyso I never use firefox :) (no website problems in konq)06:48
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troyused to have problems with gmail - not anymore...06:48
Jellegantdo you use wine to emulate internet explorer?06:48
troyno06:48
Jellegantk.06:48
Jellegant--> site designer.06:48
intelikeywell i'll do it the intelikey way rather than the *buntu way.   i'll edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.    thanks for the time of day josh__06:48
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troyI have 32bit opera kicking around which I use without problems either06:49
Jucatothe new Browser Identification Firefox 1.5.0.4 for Konqueror works perfectly with Gmail06:49
troyJucato: exactly :)06:49
intelikeyi just expected a gui way to get there....06:49
josh__intelikey: no problem, sory i couldn't help more06:49
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intelikeynp  and ty for trying.06:50
troyJellegant: I have an old windows computer for testing IE6 renderings06:50
troy(and playing the odd game)06:50
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gan|y|medcould anybody please check if you have any xine executable (like xine, xine-check, xine-config)?06:51
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dr_willis_larson9999,  i just use the emulators to play the old games. :P  i got an Emulator for my GP32 handheld even. Portable MULE06:52
Jucatogan|y|med: nope...06:52
Skrotgan|y|med: xine            xine-bugreport  xine-check      xine-config     xine-remote06:52
Jucatogan|y|med: I don't think they're in the default repos?06:52
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dr_willis_larson9999,  did that C=One ever start production yet?06:52
Jucatohm.. I don't have those xine's...06:52
troygan|y|med: I don't - just the xine libs for using kaffeine :)06:52
larson9999dr_willis_: i've been thinking about getting a gp for years.  i guess you'd say it's worth it?06:53
Jucatoactually, xine libs for everything..06:53
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dr_willis_larson9999,  theres a new gp version out thats running linux.. but it still seems pricey. and sort of bla compared to a PSP... PLUS im not sure how 'hackable' it is. The GP guys seem to have a lacking of understanding in  the GPL licsneing they are using. They dont want to release any specs06:54
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gan|y|medtroy: works?06:54
gan|y|medSkrot: where do you have those from?06:54
intelikeyjucato you asked about the 'ban'    someone asked about a root shell,  someone else said  sudo -i     so i gave an alternate means as my habbit is.  sudo su -     and this know it all jerk, starts in on me for giving bad advice and says that they are not the same.  so i cnallenged his claim.  i said i know it uses an extra app and has a few more key strokes but gets you to the same place blah blah blah...  and the fight was06:54
Skrotgan|y|med: no idea :)06:54
gan|y|mednow i have mesa again... argh06:54
troygan|y|med: yeah :)06:54
dr_willis_larson9999,  the older gp32 i got running VICE ok, on. but its a bit of a pain.06:54
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intelikeyintelikey do you want to stay in #ubuntu.    i answered 'not with you'   and left.  havent been back sense.06:55
larson9999dr_willis_: the c=one did make it to production and about half the first run are sold.  the problem is there is a riff between jeri(creator) and jens(backer).  basically not much what jeri promised has happened.  my guess it that it's due to jeri going off and doing other projects.06:55
Jucatooh... I thought they really banned you /kickban...06:55
intelikeynot that it matters   just answering your question. Jucato06:55
dr_willis_larson9999,  bummer.. thats the only C= project out isent it? or is there another?06:55
intelikeythey did ban me06:55
Jucatointelikey: hehehe! well, they "might" now the answers to your question about GDM...06:56
intelikeyi checked it.  it stood baned for over a week06:56
ubnoobi changed my keyboard layout and now can't do an 'at' and i can't get it back to default06:56
gan|y|medhow can the fglrx module disappear suddenly?06:56
larson9999dr_willis_: that's the only one i know of.  if it came to fruition i'd sell all my CMD stuff and buy on.  as it is i don't know if i will.06:56
troydr_willis_: what irc software are you using? (it keeps inserting C =  into the middle of your lines)06:56
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intelikeyerr banned06:56
dr_willis_C=one = the  name of the "Commodore One' :)06:57
dr_willis_C=   is the Commodore Logo.06:57
Jucatoehehe06:57
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dr_willis_Ya young Pup!06:57
Jucatolol06:57
Jucatoyou're basically referring to many peole here dr_willis_ ^_^06:57
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troydr_willis_: you have it set up to randomly insert it meow into what you meow type?06:57
larson9999dr_willis_: but given the fact that i just bought an amd64 3500 machine with 200gb hd, nice tv tuner, dvd burner, 1 gig ram, etc for $350 i don't know i could justify paying as much or more for the c-one06:57
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blackflaghello all :)06:58
Tokeiitoi can read my cd on win, but in kubuntu i'm gettin this error: [17181115.420000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format. How to fix it?06:58
blackflagCan someone tell me how I can edit a PDF-file?06:58
dr_willis_larson9999,  from what i am seing of the GPx2 - its nice in that it can play videos.  but my PSP can do that..  The GPx2 price seems a little steep.06:58
blackflagwhich software can do that?06:58
fallendamnationhaving problems installing easy ubuntu06:58
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larson9999dr_willis_: well i'm doing my best not to by sony06:59
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flaccidhow to install additional fonts including msttcorefonts ?06:59
troyblackflag: try opening it in kword :)06:59
Tokeiitoflaccid: try to use automatix tool06:59
nagyvI would like to download images from a Canon Powershot SD400. I can connect to it in PTP mode with Gwenview, but the download always fails. What should I do?06:59
dr_willis_troy the name of the device is called the "C= One"  in most of the message boards/discussions i see. and thats how im using it. :)06:59
zeroconfI don't suggest automatix06:59
Jucatohm...  would anyone happen to know when KWord will have save/export to MS Doc?06:59
zeroconfI suggest Easyubuntu06:59
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Jucatolol!!06:59
Tokeiitozeroconf: why?07:00
Jucatosomebody give dr_willis_ his meds...07:00
gan|y|medokay, have to restart x. thx an dcu07:00
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/07:00
zeroconfI have negative experience with automatix07:00
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ubnoobcould someone tell me his xkb options?07:00
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flaccidautomatix tool?07:00
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/07:00
zeroconfand Easyubuntu does not change anything in your system07:00
dr_willis_zeroconf,  negative as in Trashing the sytem. :P then everyone refuseing to even attempt help .07:00
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zeroconfUSB were broken with automatix07:00
Jucatozeroconf: it does... it has to change the sources.list in order to install stuff, AFAIK07:01
Jellegantsigh.07:01
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blackflagokay I open the pdf with kword but it is empty then?07:01
zeroconfeasyubuntu does not change nothing but if you want, it may add additional repositories07:02
blackflagwhat shoud I try?07:02
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gan|y|medhello again07:02
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gan|y|medi have installed the fglrx module. i get 2 fps. i am not kidding.07:02
troyblackflag: hrmm, some pdfs are a little to new/advanced for kword... dunno what else to try ...07:02
Jucatozeroconf: how does it install the proprietary codecs/plugins if it doesn't modify the sources.list?07:02
m`kay_ubunuxhi guys. i try since a few days to install the proprietary ati drivers, and it doesnt works. can someone help me please...07:02
troygan|y|med: what are you using to benchmark?07:02
blackflagokay, thanks!07:03
gan|y|medmy eyes07:03
Jucatolol07:03
nagyvI would like to download images from a Canon Powershot SD400. I can connect to it in PTP mode with Gwenview, but the download always fails. What should I do?07:03
zeroconfI don't know but I suppose, it has its own built-in repositories07:03
gan|y|medbasically, it is a still picture changing from time to time, like web cam i would say. it is AWEFUL07:03
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usuariohi there,07:04
Jucatozeroconf: apt-get will only read from sources.list. if easyubuntu has an online repository somewhere, it wil stilly have to modify sources.list to include that repository.07:04
ubnoobcould someone tell me his xkb options?07:04
gan|y|medm`kay_ubunux: download the latest installer scripts from ati and do a sudo sh <installerscript>.sh07:04
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gan|y|medokay, totem still works. everything xine relate doesn't. what am i doing wrong?07:05
troygan|y|med: run glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark07:05
zeroconfbut after easyubuntu usage is the sources.list as it was before Easyubuntu usage - perhaps it makes backup and temporary writes its own additional repositories into it - it's just guessing07:05
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Jucatotroy: there's a switch/option like that?07:06
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troyI get 3164.770 FPS with fglrx07:06
gan|y|medbow, fluent but slow... not like it used to be with fglrx07:06
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zeroconfactually I joined here to ask about HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner issue - is it possible to get work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.007:06
gan|y|medit is like drinking tea07:07
m`kay_ubunuxgan|y|med: i have done this. but its not really 3dsupported07:07
reagleBRKLNwhen kde automounts an external drive how/where can i suggest mount options (e..g, sync or nosync)?07:07
troygan|y|med: what FPS does it give you in the konsole?07:07
zeroconfthis scanner worked fine in Edubuntu 5.1007:07
Jellegantanybody know if I can install knetworkmanager off the cd?07:07
Meherclehi07:07
gan|y|mednone, no output... there should be one07:07
reagleBRKLNi know it will create and mount it to /media/wd120007:07
reagleBRKLN(the volume label)07:07
gan|y|mednow i am realy confused07:07
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Meherclewhats the command to view the info about my distro?07:07
Mehercledeveloper, release, ..07:07
Jucatogan|y|med: I think you have to wait for a few seconds before it produces output?07:07
troygan|y|med: did you use the full command I gave you? (you need it to see FPS, plus wait 5 seconds)07:08
JucatoMehercle: try "lsb_release -a"07:08
zeroconfmehercle: use cat /etc/lsb-release07:08
MehercleJucato: Thanks07:08
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troywithout the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark switch, you won't get FPS anymore :)07:08
Guest543Hi this Frank. I'm trying to get a Notebook w/ a RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ Ethernetcontroler to get connected to the network. card works fine on Suse10.1, Knoppix, DSL, M$. Any idea?07:08
gan|y|medno, but it used to work without this. i am trying again07:08
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ubnoobcould someone tell me his xkb options, my right alt key doesn't work properly anymore?07:09
gan|y|med4862.598 FPS07:09
zeroconfactually I joined here to ask about HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner issue - is it possible to get work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.007:09
gan|y|medgood joke07:09
Jucatotroy: doesn't "glxgears -printfps" do the same thing?07:09
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LeeJunFancouple questions - 1. The kubuntu DVD can boot both desktop or alternate methods right? And clamscan is in the live image?07:09
troyJucato: yeah, but this way is more fun :)07:09
gan|y|medhahha07:09
Jucatotroy: ehehe! and you were saying "dead serious"....07:10
gan|y|medso what do you say about nearly 5000fps. stupid, isn't it (the gears are veeeerrrryyyyy slow)07:10
reagleBRKLNwhen kde automounts an external drive how/where can i suggest mount options (e..g, sync or nosync)? what is even doing the automounting?07:10
gan|y|medthe automounter?07:10
nagyvreagleBRKLN: you have tu write you own udev rules07:10
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gan|y|medjust a joke, isn't this a daemon07:11
troyreagleBRKLN: udev and hal :)07:11
mefiXhi!07:11
reagleBRKLNso i should go look at the docs for udev. ok!07:11
mefiXcan i use pcf-fonts in 'konsole'?07:11
gan|y|medtroy: so what do you say?07:11
mefiXis there anybody that has yome experiences with fonts in konsole07:11
Jellegant...07:11
troygan|y|med: I say that 3d is working fine... you probably have some 2D issues (but I couldn't tell you where)07:11
mefiXi would like to install pcf-fonts from the following site: http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download07:12
ironfroggyis there an easy script anywhere that will setup automount for my samba shares? im not getting the configuration right, and its silly that i have anything to configure in the first place.07:12
gan|y|medxserver07:12
ironfroggyif the kioslave fuse was more stable, i would just use that.07:12
troygan|y|med: well, that much is certain :)07:12
gan|y|medtroy: how do i get xv support working?07:13
zeroconfDoes anybody know, ho to get HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner to work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.007:13
troygan|y|med: dunno about that, don't use it :/07:13
LeeJunFantroy: you have fglrx?07:13
gan|y|medand xine works?07:13
troyLeeJunFan: yeah, on amd64, and xine works07:13
nagyvreagleBRKLN: yes something like that, I was googling for a week to get all the info. The main points: the automounter mount the devices under their device name, so you will need to change the name (an alias is not enough), 2) the main task is to identify the device the udev way. 3) a good start can be the ubuntu user's guide available at O'Reilly (it wasn't enough for my partitioned disk)07:13
Guest543anyone out there w/ installing experience Kubuntu 6.06 and rtl 8139 Ethernet controler?07:13
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LeeJunFantroy: just a sec, theres a line or 2 to add to xorg.conf07:13
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troyLeeJunFan: direct it to gan|y|med, he's the one with the problem :)07:14
Jellegantanyone with wpa experience?07:14
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nagyvI would like to download the images from a Canon Powershot SD400, but it is autodetected as a different machine, and the manual selection doesn't work. (Manually I can select only a non-PTP mode.) Could someone help me?07:14
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LeeJunFangan|y|med: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21660 ---- add the last 2 lines in this section to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.07:15
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gan|y|medthx. i think it is dri related07:15
gan|y|medi'll try that07:15
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Jellegantmefix, can you help me?07:16
mefiXperhaps, just ask07:16
mefiXwhich card you got?07:16
Jellegantaltheros.07:16
Jellegantit's autoconfigured.07:16
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mefiXwooha, will buy a atheros-card the next month07:16
mefiXarp-injection, eh?07:16
Jellegant?07:17
Jellegantno idea.07:17
mefiXnothin' ... =)07:17
zeroconfDoes anybody know, ho to get HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner to work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.0   In Edubuntu 5.10 it worked fine....07:17
mefiXhmk for atheros, ou need the madwifi drivers07:17
JellegantmefiX, are you using ndiswrapper?07:17
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gan|y|medLeeJunFan: well, konqueror is damn slow two (graphics), as kde is in general i think. but why opengl overlay off?07:17
josh__anyone have compiz installed?07:17
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mefiXndiswrapper kinda sucks07:17
josh__i cant seem to find the gset-compiz07:17
Jellegantagreed.07:18
mefiXyou will not be able to use all features of your card-chip07:18
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josh__the package doesn't seem to exist07:18
Jellegantlet me ask, did you install knetworkmanager?07:18
troyzeroconf: try the message forums - although irc is usually faster if it's an obvious problem, if no one knows you can wait forever...07:18
Jellegantdo you remember how you got wpa_supplicant working?07:18
mefiXat first you need the correct drivers to get your card running07:18
mefiXif so .. you need wpa_supplicant07:19
nagyvI would like to download the images from a Canon Powershot SD400, but it is autodetected as a different machine, and the manual selection doesn't work. (Manually I can select only a non-PTP mode.) Could someone help me?07:19
Jellegantmefix, the card is autocoinfigured.  madwifi did it.07:19
josh__crap... how do i change system font size?07:19
mefiXteh you would have to edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:19
josh__my screen just went from 1024X768 to 1600X120007:19
josh__i can barely see anything07:19
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mefiXimho there are some good examples in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.sampe (or smth like that)07:20
mefiXthe easiest way is WPA-PSK (wide spread for home users)07:20
Jellegantwpa_supplicant is included in dapper, and I did edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf with the information I got from running  wpa_passphrase.07:20
mefiXk07:20
zeroconftroy: where can I find message forums?07:20
mefiXthen you would need to start the wpa_supplicant daemon07:21
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mefiXwpa_supplicant -i IF -B -D DRIVER -c CONFIGFILE07:21
Jellegant sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w07:21
DaSkreechlarson9999: Why aren't you buying sony?07:21
mefiXlooks good07:21
Jellegantokay.07:21
josh__alittle help here guys...07:21
troyzeroconf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:21
Jellegantthen I saw " Trying to associate with..."07:22
zeroconftroy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=142127507:22
Jellegantand it completed.  it looked good, but I couldn't get online.07:22
mefiXhmk07:22
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mefiXis dhcpcd running=07:22
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mefiXdhclient ath0 -q07:22
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JellegantI didn't do that...07:23
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mefiXcheck that your associated correct with "iwconfig ath0"07:23
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mefiXit should tell smth like "mode: 802.11x"07:23
mefiXmanaged ...07:23
Jellegantbtw, i downloaded wpagui.07:24
larson9999DaSkreech: rootkit07:24
Jellegantit can't see my card.07:24
josh__how do  change font size? screen res?07:24
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mefiXhmmm didn't use this before07:24
DaSkreechSo you think they will rootkit the PSP?07:24
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larson9999DaSkreech: no.  just any company that installs a rootkit is one i don't want to do business with07:24
gan|y|medcu07:25
DaSkreechOk reasonable07:25
Jellegantlet me try that.07:25
Jellegantgimme a sec.07:25
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josh__where can i get the gset-compiz package from?07:27
josh__what repo?07:27
A|i3Nmornin` mornin` mornin` hey anybody know either: the best gameboy emulator for kubuntu, OR a linux version of Qix?07:27
DaSkreech!xgl07:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:27
josh__:) thanks07:27
DShepherdDaSkreech, josh__: it not in the repos no more07:28
Jucatothe only gameboy emulator I know for Linux is VisualBoy Advance07:28
josh__where can i get it?07:28
Jucatoand it's front end, VBA Express07:28
josh__i need to change settings07:28
DShepherdjosh__: http://anasofiapaixao.iespana.es/apps/gset-compiz_0.3.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb.tar.gz07:28
josh__and i have got to change the screen res... where do i do that?07:28
DShepherdhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1371386 <-- found it here07:28
josh__DShepherd: i need an english one lol07:29
A|i3Nalright I'll check that one out07:29
DShepherdjosh__: its not english???07:29
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josh__it might be... im just looking at the iespana.es web addy07:29
josh__makes me think its in spanish07:29
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DShepherdoh.. ok.. check it out first.. if its not english then we will go digging07:30
DShepherd;-)07:30
josh__:P07:30
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mefiXJellegant: working?07:33
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chris___amarok no me reproduce mp3, que puedo hacer ?07:35
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mefiXchris___: english?07:36
chris___i have a problem with amarok07:36
mefiXhad one the whole last day!07:37
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slow-motionhallo07:37
mefiXit doesn't play mp3?07:37
chris___yes07:37
mefiXsudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:37
chris___o thanks =)07:37
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mefiXhf, gl07:37
josh__where can i get gset-compiz again?07:38
DaSkreech!es07:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:38
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flaccid!source-o-matic07:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:41
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GazzaKis there a way to disable Konqueror completely? (I have set firefox as the default but xchat still launches URL's in it)07:42
Jellegantdhclient ath0 -q07:42
Jellegantthen dhclient ath0 -q07:42
Jellegant"iwconfig ath0"07:42
Jellegantokay.07:43
DaSkreechapt-get remove konqueror --purge07:43
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GazzaKDaSkreech~ are you sure, it says that will also remove kubuntu-desktop (as well as some konqueror specific media players)07:45
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GazzaKthat sounds weird to me07:45
jellegan1I logged onto another computer so I could try and figure this out.07:45
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DaSkreechGazzaK: Oh no it will screw your system but if you want to do it ...07:45
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fdovingremoving kubuntu-desktop isn't as bad as it sounds.07:45
GazzaKlol, I only want to get it so xchat will launch url's in firefox, not konq :p07:46
DaSkreechGazzaK: Doesxchat have settings?07:47
GazzaKit has a URL Handler setting, but just putting firefox in it does nothing, the app won't launch07:47
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che_hi,  somebody use Cedega on Kubuntu ?07:47
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dr_willis_che_,  i have befor. :)07:48
jellegan1still having wpa issues.07:49
jellegan1anybody still available?07:49
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jellegan1can you help me dr?07:51
jellegan1nevermind.07:51
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes - is all you need to know about wpa07:52
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jellegan1hi, h3sp4wn.  I#ve read that back and forth.07:53
jellegan1I#m still stuck.07:53
jellegan1Looked all over.07:53
GazzaKthanks DaSkreech I quickly read up on what kubuntu-desktop is and carried on with that apt-get remove commend, and it solved my particular issue, thank you07:53
jellegan1this is my only hope to figure this out.07:53
h3sp4wnjellegan1: have you looked from sudo wpa_cli ?07:54
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jellegan1yep.07:54
jellegan1~could not connect to wpa_supplicant.07:55
h3sp4wnjellegan1: well you haven't set it up as specified in the above document and run sudo ifup ifname07:55
grayghostI am getting an error with KDevelop  "/bin/sh: make: command not found .  While trying to Execute program .07:56
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jellegan1I went through that doc and looked at a number of howtos to see if I#m doing anything wrong.07:57
adz21cgrayghost: you probably need to install make07:57
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jellegan1I#m pretty sure I set up my wpa_supplicant.conf correctly.07:57
jellegan1not 100% sure.07:57
checkobheyho07:57
grayghostI have installed make .... I think I have to set the path?  how?07:58
checkobanyone knows how to get an VT8233 sund card to run07:58
checkobin / on dapper drake07:58
h3sp4wnjellegan1: You don't need a wpa_supplicant.conf if you are setting it up from /etc/network/interfaces07:58
adz21cgrayghost: odd you shouldn't need to, it should be just located in your /usr/bin07:58
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ubnoobhow can i restore the original keyboard layout that was setup during installation?07:58
adz21cgrayghost: i gtg now so good luck, that was my only suggestion anyway07:59
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: There is a newer version of that file (from a later wpa_supplicant here http://www.milkspank.com/h3sp4wn/wpasupplicant/README.modes.txt )08:00
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: Just setup the stanza in /etc/network/interfaces08:01
jellegan1I#m checking it out now.08:01
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DaSkreechI chased the Toyman away :(08:02
jellegan1h3sp4wn, should I put the ssid in quotes if there are more than one word in the name?08:04
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GazzaKoops, well removing konqueror seemed a good idea, until I realised that was the app used for browsing local data :p08:05
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: yes try ' and " if that doesn't work - is it unable to be changed by you ? Do you have a particularly complicated setup - wpa2 with radius and certificates or anything ?08:06
jellegan1nope,08:06
jellegan1pretty simple08:06
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jellegan1h3sp, sudo ifup ifname ... what name?08:08
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h3sp4wndepends which interface your wireless is ?08:09
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jellegan1k.08:10
h3sp4wn(that also depends on what you have to put in /etc/network/interfaces)08:10
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jellegan1sudo ifup ifath0?08:11
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jamadagnihello08:11
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CaptainChrisbonjour08:11
jamadagnibonjour monsieur08:11
CaptainChrisquelqu'un s'y connait un peu sous mupen08:11
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h3sp4wnin /etc/network/interfaces you should have iface ath0 inet dhcp08:11
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jellegan1yep.08:11
jamadagniqu'est-ce que c'est que mupen?08:11
h3sp4wnsudo ifup ath0 should bring it up (if its working correctly)08:11
CaptainChrisun emulateur n6408:12
CaptainChrisjellegan1, tu repond yep pour moi08:12
jamadagniun moment, vous savez anglais? non?08:12
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DShepherd!es08:12
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:12
jellegan1no08:12
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: You may or may not need pre-up sleep 3 (depending on where you are located at one point there was a bug which stopped it working08:12
jellegan1aha.08:12
DShepherdjamadagni: join #kubuntu-es08:12
jamadagnii am not spanish08:13
h3sp4wnjellegan1: make sure you auto ath0 (somewhere in that file also)08:13
jamadagnithis is french we were speaking08:13
DShepherdoh..08:13
DShepherdsrry08:13
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jamadagniis there a french channel for captainchris?08:13
jellegan1I read about that bug.08:13
josh__ok....what is the package fr gset-compiz in kde08:13
jellegan1I#m getting dhcpdiscover right now.08:13
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josh__i cant find gset-compiz package08:14
h3sp4wnjellegan1: run sudo wpa_cli (should give you a prompt - then type status)08:14
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jamadagnimonsieur captainchris, veuillez aller au channel #kubuntu-fr08:14
josh__and there is no kset-compiz/kdeset-compiz packages08:14
jellegan1~scanning~08:14
jamadagnila trouverez vous de l'aide en francais08:14
DShepherdjosh__: http://anasofiapaixao.iespana.es/apps/gset-compiz_0.3.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb.tar.gz <-- will that help08:14
jamadagnion parle seulement anglais ici08:15
jamadagniok people, now for my thing08:15
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h3sp4wnjallegan1: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces08:15
jamadagnican anyone please tell me what your md5 for kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-cd.iso is?08:15
jamadagnisomehow i have a value of e29a7bf1022e5d257b0f9d134c8b260f08:15
DShepherdjamadagni: it should be on the site..08:15
josh__it would but i get errors08:15
jamadagniyes08:15
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jamadagnithe site says 6cb8582aa5615ed4616165743a0868d708:16
jellegan1I#m working on two computers.08:16
jamadagnii am just trying to get verification whether the site is wrong (unlikely) or i am wrong08:16
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jellegan1should I comment out any unused devices?08:16
jamadagniif I am wrong, then how did the cd burnt from that iso install this kubuntu from which i am  typing?08:16
jamadagni@DShepherd,. can you help me?08:16
DShepherde29a7bf1022e5d257b0f9d134c8b260f  kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso08:16
h3sp4wnjellegan1: I don't know what you have in there08:17
DShepherdhttp://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/MD5SUMS <-- jamadagni check it out08:17
jellegan1I wouldn#t expect you to.  I have lom eth0, eth1, ath0, and wlan08:17
jellegan1I have everything commented out except the auto ath0 section.08:18
jamadagniDShepherd - why then does http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS say otherwise?08:18
josh__i cant unzip that file DShepherd08:18
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ubuntuok i'm on the live cd and it has a couple errors08:19
DShepherdjamadagni: that;s for an ubuntu cd.. not kubuntu08:19
DShepherdjosh__: ,, oh.. let me try08:19
ubuntuone of them is when i started up and it said the media process unexpectidly died and one of the restricted drivers is broken08:19
jellegan1hmmmm...08:19
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: I will give you an example of mine (minus the keys) just the atheros stanza08:20
DShepherdjosh__: oh srry man..08:20
ubuntuif i installed like this could i just update and it will fix it?08:20
josh__its ok08:20
jamadagniwhoops! DShepherd thanks08:20
josh__just dont let it happen again!!08:20
josh__lol08:20
josh__j/p08:20
jamadagnii just love this community!08:20
josh__will the gset package work with kde?08:20
DShepherdjosh__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1402545&postcount=6 <-- check that out08:20
DaSkreech!fr08:21
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:21
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DShepherdjosh__: its not a tar.. its a deb.. just remove the extension. and leave the deb part .. understood?08:21
jamadagniok DShepherd - when I try to install kubuntu from the iso on vmware server (either hosted on windows or linux)08:21
ubuntucan somebody help?08:21
jamadagnithe installation hangs somewhere in the middle of installing packages08:21
josh__gotcha08:21
DShepherdjosh__: kool08:21
jamadagni@ubuntu - what is your problem exaclty?08:21
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ubuntuthere is a bad md5 on one of the restricted drivers08:22
jellegan1k.08:22
korganshi08:22
ubuntushould i install anyways and update? would the update fix it?08:22
korganshow do i cloase the kubuntu sound server08:22
DShepherdjamadagni: oh... hmmm.. i dont know why that would happen.. honestly i dont08:22
jamadagnithere is a bad md5 for the iso or the driver deb - @ubuntu?08:22
ubuntuwell im on the live cd08:22
DShepherdjamadagni: have you tried reburning the cd? it may be a bad burn08:23
ubuntuits not the whole iso just one of the files on it08:23
korgansSomeone know how o kill the sound server process08:23
jamadagni@ubuntu - and at what point during installation doe sthis error come?08:23
trappistkorgans: killall artsd08:23
ubuntuno not during the installation08:23
ubuntuduring the check cd for errors08:23
DShepherdDaSkreech: I am helping out the darkside! :-D08:23
jamadagni@DShepherd - it's not from the cd at all. vmware server can take an iso on the hard disk and show it to the virtual machine as a cd08:23
h3sp4wnjellegan1: http://pastebin.ca/149307 (that should be all you need I am not sure about the ssid having spaces in it though)08:23
jamadagni@ubuntu - what exactly restricted driver it is?08:23
DShepherdjamadagni: oh.. goes to show.. I have no clue!08:23
ubuntui think its the kernel08:24
jamadagni@ubuntu - oh oh08:24
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ubuntuwell doesn't it just update?08:24
korgansquit08:24
korgansoops08:24
korgansthx08:24
ubuntuif u do an update in adept?08:24
jamadagni@ubuntu - it may08:24
jellegan1I don#t have the wpa proto in mine.08:24
ubuntuok08:24
jellegan1or the pre-up08:24
jamadagnibut if it is a kernel package then i doubt it will install and run properly in the first place08:24
ubuntuwhatever i'll try it and see what happens08:24
jellegan1otherwise, identical.08:25
jamadagniit should boot, no? and for that the kernel should be correct.08:25
jamadagniso i think maybe you may need to redownload the iso.08:25
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jamadagnialways check the md5sum of the iso and make sure it tallies with teh md5 posted on the ubuntu server before burning a cd08:25
h3sp4wnjellegan1: Try making the ssid not have a space08:25
jamadagnieven if it is a cdrw08:25
jamadagni@DShepherd - thanks anyway08:25
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jellegan1I don#t know how best to do that.08:26
jamadagniok buys, gye!08:26
h3sp4wnjellegan1: That would be on the router08:26
jamadagnii mean, ok guys, bye!08:26
DShepherdjamadagni: sure man.. i am glad to help out. lata08:26
jamadagni@DShepherd - "lata'?08:26
jellegan1the network name is Dusty Rhodes network08:26
jamadagni@DShepherd - "lata"? (ubugtu said - error, no closing quotation)08:26
ubuntuoh08:27
ubuntui never knew that08:27
DShepherdjamadagni: bye?08:27
jamadagni@ubuntu - i said, ubu*g*tu. not you. :)08:27
ubuntuoh08:27
jamadagni@DShepherd - i though that was "tata"08:27
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jamadagniok bye really. it's late here. gn.08:27
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DShepherdok08:27
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: sudo wpa_cli - then run scan and scanresults08:28
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ubuntuok what the hell08:28
ubuntulast time i just selected root for the windows partition08:28
ubuntunow it won't let me08:28
ubuntuit says use home or something08:29
jellegan1lol.08:29
jellegan1unknown command scanresults08:29
jellegan1scan_results08:29
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ubuntuok it says "no root file system" and i'm at the prepare mount points screen08:30
jellegan1the ssid should be the number sequence?08:30
ubuntumedia/sda is what i want to use08:30
jellegan1damnit.08:30
h3sp4wnthe ssid is the name08:30
h3sp4wnthe bssid is the mac address08:30
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jellegan1I thought so.  I knew I wasn#t crazy.08:31
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ubuntuok does anyone need help while kubuntu is installing?08:31
jellegan1I#m trying without the quotes.08:31
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h3sp4wnYou may have to put it in as Dusty\ Rhodes\ network08:33
jellegan1spaces are slashes.08:33
jellegan1okay.08:33
XVampireXHow do I close X server?08:33
jellegan1what about an apostrophe?08:33
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h3sp4wnYou may need to put it in like that if you don't quote it but I don't know08:34
jellegan1k.08:35
jellegan1done.08:35
jellegan1scan shows mine and another network.08:35
jellegan1still not connected.08:35
h3sp4wntype help08:35
h3sp4wnand look at the commands to connect manually08:35
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ubuntuto close x server log out and select from the menu login to console08:37
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ubuntuor hit ctrl alt f108:37
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: If you have wierd characters in the key like &\ and stuff like that then wpa_supplicant doesn't work with it sometimes08:37
jellegan1sigh.08:37
jellegan1there is only one apostrophe08:38
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h3sp4wnChange the ssid to something without a space and the key to something more simpler (then get it working) then change it to something more secure08:38
jellegan1I wish I could.08:39
slow-motionre08:39
h3sp4wnjellegan1: So its not your router ?08:39
jellegan1my neighbors.08:39
jellegan1I pay for the key monthly.08:39
jellegan1half priced high-speed aint bad.08:40
jellegan1if I could just figure this out Id be golden.08:40
h3sp4wnjellegan1: ask in #madwifi if kelmo is around he almost certainly can help you and try to be specific08:40
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jellegan1k.08:41
Jazonhiya08:41
Jazon:)08:41
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: You might have to wait a bit but the knowledge of the people there is alot better than mine (when it comes to stuff like this)08:41
Jazonstuff like what??08:41
jellegan1I appreciate your help!08:41
Jazonjellegan1: i just got here whats up?08:42
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jellegan1hi, jazon.08:42
jellegan1wpa supplicant issue.08:42
jellegan1my ssid has capital letters, spaces and an apostrophe.08:42
ubuntuhmm maybe i should just make my name what it usually is08:42
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Jazonj/k08:43
josh__there08:43
jellegan1hmmm...08:43
Jazondamn - phone.... .bbl    if no resolution, i might be able to help08:43
xunqhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2166408:43
josh__nvidia drivers are so easy to install on this08:43
DaSkreechDShepherd: Did they get ridof the sinlge user compiz bug?08:43
josh__suse is impossible08:43
larson9999i added a new user to my system and sound doesn't work for him.  it does for me.  kmix says mixer can not be found on the new session.  any ideas what i dorked up?08:43
DShepherdDaSkreech: hmm not sure...08:44
DaSkreechlarson9999: is the user in the audio group?08:44
jellegan1btw, it#s wpa-psk-tkip, if that means anything08:44
josh__yay its done08:44
DaSkreechCause Andre hogs the Compiz goodness08:44
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DShepherdlarson9999: groups <user> # run that i see if the user's username in in the audio group08:46
DShepherdDaSkreech: yeah... I am not sure if it is relalted to a the Xserver-xgl or compiz. not sure08:47
h3sp4wnjellegan1: actually just run wpa_passphrase Very\ Long\ Ssid silly\'passphrase08:47
EteRNitYhi u lot08:47
jellegan1did that.08:48
DaSkreechDShepherd: Why would the Xserver care?08:48
h3sp4wnjellegan1: wpa_ssid "In Quotes the ssid"08:48
h3sp4wnwpa-psk 7cccf4e9f2065dc333c7254a32b308a3bbd9d355f9242d817hhdc56cf20f5d0408:48
DShepherdDaSkreech: that's a good question.. one.. I cannot answer08:49
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h3sp4wnGenerated from wpa_passphrase Dusty\ Rhodes\ network mylongpassword\'whatever (it will give you the string of hex which is the equivalnet)08:49
jellegan1not working right now.08:49
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jellegan11 sec.08:50
revolverciao a tutti08:50
xunqhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2166408:51
DaSkreechDShepherd: Who can?08:51
DShepherdDaSkreech: another good question.. not sure08:51
xunqpomoc help segitseg hilfe :D08:51
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DaSkreechxunq: WHoch language?08:52
DaSkreechWhich08:52
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revolveri'm italia, hello!!08:53
xunqslovak german czech english hungary :D08:53
jellegan1only works in quotes.08:53
otaku-sanrevolver: heheh the "ciao" gave you away08:53
DaSkreechAh08:53
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h3sp4wnjellegan1: As long as you escape special characters with \ it will work08:54
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revolverno,no ciao mean hello08:54
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misieqhow can i make mplayer play movie in root?08:55
revolvergood question08:55
fritschmisieq: the question is, why do you need root to run mplayer?08:55
misieqroot window. the desktop, the main x window... not "sudo"08:56
jellegan1kelmo isn#t home, but I#m in the madwifi chat now.  no answer yet.08:56
xunqhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21664 help08:56
jellegan1thanks for your help sp4wn.08:56
fritschmisieq: soory, language barrier, i did not get it ... but want to help (mplayer running here)08:56
misieqthere was some "--window root" or "-root" option but i don't remember...08:57
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fritschmisieq: it is mplayer -rootwin08:58
Kr4t05IIRC, you can play a movie in ascii with mplayer, right?08:58
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fritschKr4t05: yes :-) over your framebuffer08:59
mani_hi all !08:59
linuxkid2hey08:59
fritschmisieq: does it work? "-rootwin"?08:59
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misieqfritsch: errr... not quite08:59
fritschmisieq: this is the only option with root08:59
misieqi mean it actually does play movie, but i can't see it08:59
fritschmisieq: ah, hehe08:59
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fritschmisieq: try mplay -vo x11 -ao alsa "datei.avi"09:00
mani_i am looking for some help in improving my video performance... whenever i play a movie, in full screen mode, the video is not smooth...09:00
fritschmisieq: just for "the record"09:00
fritschmani_: what is your graphics card?09:00
misieqi think i should play it to "desktop" window... probably there is some x utility that can stream to some window...09:00
linuxkid2misieq: more like pipe. is that what you're thinking?09:01
mani_fritsch... i have a acer laptop... and i know that it shares the RAM for video ram.09:01
fritschmani_: okay, does "dri" work?09:01
misieqlinuxkid2: yeah, that was the word i was missing09:01
fritschmani_: glxgears -printfps how many fps do you get?09:01
misieqlinuxkid2: do you know one by accident?09:02
revolveri'm new of kubuntu, help me!!...how can i do to start my installation downloaded?sorry for my inglish, correct me09:02
linuxkid2misieq: nope09:02
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mani_fritsch: 316.945 FPS09:02
misieqin #ubuntu i was told that there was xwinwrap, but it probably works only for accelerated servers like XGL which i don't have here...09:03
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fritschmani_: mmh, was sagt: glxinfo |grep -i direct09:03
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linuxkid2revolver: what you got so far?09:03
fritschmani_: sorry *g* forgot about the language09:03
misieqi think i'll just get xgl :)09:04
misieq!xgl09:04
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:04
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mani_fritsch: can you slow down a lil bit :)    if you tell me a command i can execute it and tell you the results09:04
linuxkid2revolver, you there?09:04
fritschmani_: mmh yes, of course :-)09:05
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mani_fritsch: it says direct rendering: no09:05
revolveryes, i'm here09:05
mani_fritsch: and also: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:05
revolveri'm italian09:06
linuxkid2what have you done so far?09:06
fritschmani_: yes, okay, this i wanted to know09:06
linuxkid2ooh, cool09:06
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mani_fritsch: are my settings okay ?09:06
revolverwhat's mean what have you done so far?09:07
linuxkid2what have you downloaded or burned?09:07
fritschmani_: think no09:07
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fritschmani_: direct rendering is not enabled09:07
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larson9999DaSkreech: that was it.  thanks.  guess you must not need to do that in mandriva.09:07
mani_fritsch: how do i go about enabling it ?09:07
DaSkreechlarson9999: What?09:07
DaSkreechI forgot now :)09:08
revolvera game wolfenstein et, i was a pro..and wine a tools for start windows program09:08
fritschmani_: please pastebin your xorg.conf and your lsmod list09:08
larson9999DaSkreech: adding new users to audio group.  mandriva must take care of that or it isn't required09:08
fritschmani_: because i have to see the driver your X is using and if the dri modul is loaded09:08
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mani_dri09:08
DaSkreechlarson9999: RIght09:08
fritschmani_: direct rendering interface09:08
linuxkid2revolver: huh? what's your problem?09:09
fritschmani_: be right back in approx 10 minutes (have to boot 2.6.18-rc4)09:09
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revolverok sorry, my problem is : i don't know how to do for start my installation09:10
linuxkid2revolver: what are you installing?09:10
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revolvermy operating sistem? is kubuntu09:11
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linuxkid2so, you have a CD and are trying to install that?09:11
jellegan1I am in the madwifi room right now too with my wpa issue.  man, it#s dead in there.09:11
jellegan1no help so far at all.09:11
mani_pastebin09:11
revolverno, i have downloaded09:11
linuxkid2you have kubuntu up and running?09:12
revolveryes09:13
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linuxkid2revolver: then what is it that you want to install?09:13
arepieanyone have a sample of boost.filesystem code for me to refer.. im having trouble only looking at the reference...09:13
revolveris wolfenstein et and wine09:14
maxushokay, i did a fresh install of kubuntu, then installed the ati drivers using automatic settings, then ran aticonfig, and reset, and now when i boot it gets stuck with the blue kubuntu logo and the blue loading bar, without showing any progress period. it also looks like it's accessing my cd-rom drive every couple of seconds or so09:14
linuxkid2revolver: oh, wine. um, sorry I don't know. If it's a game, then you might be better served with Cedega.09:14
revolverone is . bz2 and the other is . run.part09:15
linuxkid2are you installing WINE with some tarball or apt?09:15
maxushoh, and if i press ctrl+alt+del, it actually resets the computer09:15
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revolverah, wine is a tools for start i don' know the means of tarball and apt09:16
linuxkid2revolver: try "sudo aptitude install wine" to install wine.09:16
revolveris tar.bz209:16
revolverok i try09:17
linuxkid2revolver: a tarball is an tar archive file. *.tar.bz209:17
maxushsorry, should i just leave?09:17
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maxushi also changed the root password :o09:18
linuxkid2maxush, you want ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X, not ctrl+alt+del09:18
revolverok tks09:18
linuxkid2revolver: you got wine now, but getting that game working is another matter.09:18
maxushsorry, i was just saying that to show that the system is actually responding09:19
trappistmaxush: try hitting, say, ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a console window09:19
maxushnothing09:19
trappistthen examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what may have gone wrong09:19
jellegan1I am officially pulling my hair out.09:19
linuxkid2or f1 through f6. they all console terminals09:19
trappistmaxush: in that case reboot, choose the recovery option at the grub menu, THEN check out your xorg log09:20
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maxushalright09:20
revolverok in teory it is runned09:20
trappistmaxush: you can escape from recovery mode to normal mode by saying 'exit' when you're done09:20
maxushthanks09:21
linuxkid2revolver: maybe. just try running the setup program for that game.09:21
linuxkid2Anybody know anything about X Terminals?09:21
linuxkid2XDMCP in particular?09:21
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maxushah09:22
maxushfatal server error: no screens found09:22
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Jazonsorry - gonna be tied up for a few hours..... l8r guys09:22
linuxkid2Anybody know anything about X Terminals?09:23
linuxkid2Anybody know anything about X Terminals?09:23
linuxkid2XDMCP in particular?09:23
linuxkid2oops09:23
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pielgrzymhello :)09:23
revolveryes, thencks, there is only a problem, i don't know where is the file of program installed09:24
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jellegan1hi.09:24
pielgrzymI'm using XFS for my linux partition. I've heard that if I edit a file on a XFS and have a reboot, this file gets corrupted. Is it true?09:24
linuxkid2revolver: wine makes some kind of virtual C drive somewhere that you might be able to find.09:24
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trappistpielgrzym: no.  xfs is a journalized filesystem, specifically designed to prevent that.09:26
abattoirpielgrzym: i use XFS, and havent encountered that problem, in fact i find XFS filesystems to be more stable when doing hard reboots09:26
revolverok09:26
DaSkreechlinuxkid2: What about them?09:26
abattoirlinuxkid2: try looking in ~/.wine09:27
jellegan1anyone have any other suggestions for where to go for my WPA issue?09:27
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abattoiroops sorry, that was for revolver09:27
jellegan1madwifi chat sucks.09:27
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linuxkid2DaSkreech: I just want to make an old Pentium into an X terminal, using XDMCP.09:28
linuxkid2revolver: yeah, try ~/.wine09:28
DaSkreechBy X terminal do you mean a Thin client or an Xterm?09:28
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linuxkid2thin-client09:28
DaSkreechAhh look up LTSP09:29
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linuxkid2DaSkreech: what's that, briefly?09:29
revolverok it works09:29
revolvertks tks09:29
pielgrzymabattoir: so it's safe to use it for all linux partitions?09:29
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DaSkreechLinux Terminal Server Project. You run a server and then have a thin client on the client09:30
linuxkid2!XDMCP09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
abattoirpielgrzym: yes, however grub is know to have issues w/ it.09:30
linuxkid2!LTSP09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about LTSP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
pielgrzymabattoir: I've heard that ReiserFS handles loads of small files better (faster) - should I make an ReiserFS partition for music?09:30
DaSkreech!info ltsp09:30
ubotuPackage ltsp does not exist in dapper09:30
DaSkreechBah09:30
pielgrzymabattoir: I use good old Lilo ;)09:30
DaSkreechIt ships by default no Edubuntu :)09:30
abattoirpielgrzym: i'm pretty sure the performance diff. is not something that big that you'd notice...09:30
pielgrzymabattoir: furthermore dumb me installed lilo on windows partition ;)09:30
abattoirpielgrzym: then it should be good. :)09:31
linuxkid2DaSkreeck: isn't edubuntu designed for that kind of thing?09:31
pielgrzymabattoir: good to hear that :) thanks :)09:31
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misieq!seveas09:31
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:31
DaSkreechI would guess that's why it ships with it by default09:31
DaSkreechSemi popular :)09:31
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linuxkid2might it be in there?09:32
secureHey everyone, is it possible to restore a computer to a basic Ubuntu installation without the CD?09:32
DaSkreechlarson9999: http://www.google.com/search?q=PS3+will+cure+cancer&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial09:32
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DaSkreechlarson9999: Check out the Google hint :)09:32
pielgrzymabattoir: thanks for help :) I'll stick to XFS then :)09:32
abattoirpielgrzym: no problem :)09:32
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maxusharg09:33
zblachquick question. I'm using a HP Pavilion notebook, and i've these quickplay keys. no chance I can bind them to launch mplayer/xmms?09:33
secureHey everyone, is it possible to restore a computer to a basic Ubuntu installation without the CD?09:33
DaSkreechsecure: Sure09:33
secureThat's great to know, but how?09:34
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abattoirzblach: should be possible...09:34
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DaSkreechsecure: are you trying to get rid of Gnome or  KDE?09:34
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SkrotBetter be gnome!! ;)09:35
DaSkreechlnxkde: Split!09:35
lnxkde:p09:35
abattoirzblach: you can use 'xev' to find the respective keycodes...09:35
lnxkdeDaSkreech:  how are you!?09:35
zblachabattoir: what do I run to ... right. xev. thanks09:35
secureWell, I have both on my computer, but I can't seem to get into them, I screwed something up with XGL/Compiz and I'm stuck with XFCE.....09:35
abattoirzblach: then you should map them to the commands you need to execute...09:35
ubuntuwooah why is the repo so damn slow09:36
zblachabattoir: how? i have the keycodes, but how can I map 'em?09:36
revolverby by!! tks09:36
ubuntujust installing linux :D again09:36
abattoirzblach: setkeycodes i think... i'll look it up, one sec...09:36
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DaSkreechsecure: I forget how to do it with XFCE but try removing Glib09:37
misieqhow comes i don't have a gpg key for "http://kubuntu.org dapper Release" ? : NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508809:38
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secureSorry, I'm new with the whole thing, what's Glib?09:38
josh___i can't play mp3's09:38
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misieq!mp309:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:39
abattoirmisieq: technically, its not an 'official' repo. there are however instructions on every announce page(iirc) about how to add jr's key09:39
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monkeybirhdhi, how do i set up wifi for a dlink dwl-g510?09:40
fritschmonkeybirhd: you could try ndiswrapper09:41
fritschmonkeybirhd: if there are no nativ drivers09:41
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fritschmonkeybirhd: keep your windows driver "inf" handy and use the ndiswrapper tools09:41
abattoirzblach: i think xbindkeys is what you need... xbindkeys is a GTK frontend which apparently eases the configuration09:41
fritschmonkeybirhd:  ndiswrapper -i "inf files"09:41
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RogueXCan someone tell me how to get the date back on the panel?09:41
monkeybirhdis ndiswrapper09:41
zblachndiswrapper included in dapper?09:41
monkeybirhdinstalled09:42
abattoirRogueX: do you have the clock?09:42
fritschzblach: yes of course09:42
monkeybirhdok09:42
fritschmonkeybirhd: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils09:42
RogueXabattoir: No not now..09:42
zblachfritsch, so, um, without a network connection, how're you going to download it ;)09:42
abattoirRogueX: ok, rt. click on the panel->Add applet->clock09:42
fritschzblach: if you can come in here, you can just get "the deb" file and install by hand?09:43
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RogueXabattoir: Ok I have the clock now.. how do I get date?09:43
abattoirRogueX: if that doesnt have the date, rt. click on the clock->Configure clock->Check date...09:43
abattoir'check' the date checkbox09:43
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RogueXabattoir: That got it!  Thank you09:44
abattoirRogueX: you're welcome :)09:44
maxushthanks trappist, linuxkid09:44
RogueXabattoir: I see you in here a lot helping.. you seem to really know this stuff! :)09:44
maxushi just got back into kde :p09:44
DaSkreechWelcome :)09:45
abattoirRogueX: heh, if you think so :)09:45
mani_fritsch: got a minute? i have all the info you need... while you were away i booted in winxp and found that i have SiS M760 GX card09:45
fritschmani_: uuh, mmmh don`t know of Sis DRI support?09:45
fritschmani_: you can try the "sis" module09:45
mani_fritsch: how ?09:46
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RogueXabattoir:  I show that udp port 68 (tftp) is connected to the internal address any idea why?09:47
abattoirRogueX: nope, i really know little about networking stuff :(09:47
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fritschmani_: modprobe sis09:48
DaSkreechSo are we going to have a Kubuntu for PS3? :)09:48
abattoirmani_: dont think dri is supported by the sis driver for your card...09:49
abattoirDaSkreech: we can make one ;)09:49
DaSkreechI know :)09:50
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DaSkreechYay IBM :)09:50
abattoirDaSkreech: anyways it runs linux, so switching distros shouldnt be hard :P09:50
mani_abattoir, fritsch: first i got WARNING: Error inserting drm and then i got FATAL: Error inserting sis09:50
fritschabattoir: "no such device"?09:50
DaSkreechDepends on if they lock the processorI guess09:50
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abattoirmani_: 'sudo modprobe sis' ?09:51
mani_abattoir, fritsch, it also says operation not permitted09:51
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fritschmani_: do it with sudo, as abattoir said09:51
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abattoirfritsch: i think it should be loaded by default...09:52
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abattoir... the sis module.09:52
mani_nothing... when i do modprobe it just comes back to the next line without any output09:52
abattoirok, that's good09:52
mani_im so glad :)09:52
abattoirmani_: do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'09:52
fritschabattoir: mmh, this asks a lot09:53
fritschabattoir: just changing "Driver" to "sis" and add sis to /etc/modules would do it?09:53
mani_do you want to look at the xorg.conf file... it says "default video card" ec09:53
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fritschmani_: yes what says: Driver there?09:54
abattoirfritsch: it only asks two questions :P09:54
mani_generic video card, driver: VESA09:54
fritschmani_: there is your problem09:55
fritschmani_: change this to "sis"09:55
mani_how do i load SiS driver ?09:55
fritschmani_: if it works - cool, if not bad09:55
mani_can i edit the file09:55
fritschi did not see abattoir -phigh09:55
fritschmani_: please do what he suggests ...09:55
fritschmani_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg09:55
mani_what does that scary looking command do ?09:55
abattoirfritsch: ;)09:55
mani_it reconfigures xserver does it ?09:56
abattoirmani_: that'd give you a cream on blue screen... :P09:56
abattoirmani_: which gives you options to choose your driver... which'd be sis in your case...09:56
mani_ok... here goess... :)09:56
abattoirand then choose your native resolution09:56
mani_a window opened "debconf" it says "please enter a value for the entry" and "a null entry is not permitted"... i am not being allowed to press next09:58
mani_also, there is no place to enter any value !09:58
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mani_on the konsole, it says "bad device, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"09:59
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RogueXAnyone know if you can start Kubuntu in Console mode first?10:00
abattoirmani_: did you enter the exact command which i mentioned?10:00
heinkel_111anyone knows if there are precompiled drivers for nvidia 570 chipset?10:01
heinkel_111i have an asus m2n-sli motherboard10:01
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heinkel_111network does not function with dapper10:01
heinkel_111seems like ethernet driver does not compute10:01
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mani_abattoir: yes i did copy and paste10:03
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mani_abattoir: when i ran the command, it printed a lot of error msgs on the console and then the "debian conf" window opened10:04
abattoirmani_: could you pastebin those error messages?10:04
abattoir!pastebin10:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:04
monkeybirhdhow do i install a package localy? the reason i need wifi is because i cant get wired internet.10:04
abattoirmonkeybirhd: 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb'10:05
monkeybirhdok10:05
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DaSkreechRogueX: Sup?10:06
RogueXDaSkreech: Hay.  :)10:06
RogueXAnyone know if you can start Kubuntu in Console mode first?10:07
DaSkreechRogueX: What are you trying to do?10:07
mani_abattoir: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2166610:07
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RogueXDaSkreech: I want to come up in console mode first then "startx" into Kubuntu.10:07
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jujimufuok, so yesterday I downloaded GNOME to try it out, and along, it downloaded many other gnome-related packages.10:08
jujimufuhowever, gnome's messed up my system, and I want to remove it, completely.10:08
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jujimufuany ideas how?10:08
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fritschjujimufu: hehe10:08
HawkwindRogueX: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0  <~~That's the how-to on my forums that I used to do what you want10:08
jujimufufritsch: well, it's messed up with KDM, my sound settings, X, everything. Any ideas?10:09
RogueXHawkwind: I will check it out now.  Thanks10:09
fritschjujimufu: mmmh, was it your computer i worked 3 hours to get dri working?10:09
fritschjujimufu: in Germany wie say: From Mistakes - we learn ...10:09
fritschjujimufu: how did you install gnome?10:10
fritschjujimufu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:10
abattoirmani_: 'warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; no default X server'10:10
monkeybirhdok i installed the drivers with ndiswrapper, now what?10:10
fritschmonkeybirhd: modprobe ndiswrapper10:10
jujimufufritsch: no, sudo apt-get install gnome10:10
fritschmonkeybirhd: after that: iwlist ethX scan (where X is your wireless)10:10
abattoirmani_: it seems to suggest that you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'....10:10
jujimufufritsch: and yeah, that was me :)10:10
fritschjujimufu: mmh this won't f*ck up something10:11
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mani_abattoir: you mean without the sudo ?10:11
abattoirmani_: or, as fritsch suggested, you can try changing all the instances of vesa to sis in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P10:11
abattoirmani_: with the sudo10:11
monkeybirhdjust type "modprobe ndiswrapper" in to a term10:11
DaSkreechjujimufu: I think you can sudo aptitude remove some Gnome Lib to get rid of it10:11
monkeybirhd?10:11
abattoirmani_: it asks a lot of questions... however if you dont know, just select the default value...10:11
fritschmonkeybirhd: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper10:11
fritschmonkeybirhd: ndiswrapper is the kernel "side" of the tools10:12
mani_abattoir: so we are dropping the -phigh switch10:12
abattoirmani_: when it comes to the bit about your X video driver, choose sis and then your resolution...10:12
fritschmani_: *g*10:12
abattoirmani_: yes10:12
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abattoirfritsch: i have been wanting to ask you... what is *g* supposed to mean, btw?10:12
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fritschabattoir: oh, that means a "smiling"10:13
fritschabattoir: they do it in icq to me ...10:13
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abattoirfritsch: hmmm ok.10:13
fritschabattoir: this is not irc style, right?10:13
fritschabattoir: so i try to stop it ;-)10:14
heinkel_111hey fritsch!10:14
monkeybirhdit just says "segmentation fault"10:14
fritschheinkel_111: moin10:14
fritschmonkeybirhd: uuh10:14
abattoirfritsch: well, i havent seen it before, was curious, so i asked, thats all :)10:14
fritschmonkeybirhd: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper10:14
kasumHI10:14
heinkel_111fritsch: do you recall my network problem from 2 weeks ago (before my vacation)?10:15
DaSkreechabattoir: It's short for *grin*10:15
heinkel_111you tried to help me get dhcp working10:15
fritschheinkel_111: no, sorry - i only remember your name10:15
mani_fritsch, abattoir: No X server known for your video hardware. when i click next it goes to the monitor settings...10:15
DaSkreechI would suspect10:15
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abattoirDaSkreech: aah, ok :)10:15
fritschmani_: okay, edit by hand10:15
misieq_errr.... how do i change res in xgl?10:15
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fritschheinkel_111: does it work now?10:15
heinkel_111fritsch: we concluded there might be some problem with the network drivers10:15
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fritschheinkel_111: ja?10:16
RawSewagemisieq, is that panel grayed out10:16
heinkel_111no it does not work10:16
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heinkel_111fritsch: you suggested some checks to find out if correct drivers were installes?10:16
misieq_RawSewage: what panel?10:16
RawSewagemisieq, the monitor cp10:16
RawSewageSettings , Peripherals10:16
misieq_in kcontrol? i can't load display, there is some error10:17
RawSewageDisplay10:17
RawSewageyeah, in Compiz10:17
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fritschheinkel_111: sorry, i don`t remember :-(10:17
heinkel_111fritsch: i have a nvidia 570 based asus m2n-sli motherboard (this has onboard network)10:17
fritschheinkel_111: much has happened sinc then10:17
heinkel_111':)10:17
fritschheinkel_111: ah okay10:17
fritschheinkel_111: what modul does it use10:17
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heinkel_111fritsch: modul?10:17
misieq_RawSewage: in compiz? or in kcontrol?10:17
fritschheinkel_111: module10:17
fritschheinkel_111: which module is responsible for your network?10:18
heinkel_111fritsch: don't completely understand question..software module or....10:18
RawSewagemisieq, the monitor control was messed up for me when I was running Compiz10:18
fritschheinkel_111: you need a kernel modul to load the hardware driver ...10:18
mani_fritsch: there was only one line with "vesa" in xorg.conf... i changed to sis... any other changes ?10:19
fritschmani_: yes10:19
heinkel_111fritsch: i have default amd64 6.06 installed10:19
fritschmani_: please add sis to /etc/modules, just into a new line10:19
fritschheinkel_111: what says: dmesg |grep -i eth10:19
misieq_!xgl10:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:19
monkeybirhdit said "interface doesn't support scanning"10:20
fritschheinkel_111: what tells: dmesg |grep sky10:20
fritschmani_: after this you have to "restart" your xserver10:20
fritschmani_: if something goes wrong, just change the "sis" lines again10:20
fritschmani_: back to vesa10:21
heinkel_111fritsch: dmesg |grep -i eth tells a lot of things ;)10:21
fritschheinkel_111: pleace pastebin them ... or send it to me via mail10:21
monkeybirhdwhat should it be called if i have a wired internet card too?10:21
heinkel_111fritsch: there are references to a forcedeth.c10:21
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monkeybirhdeth1?10:21
fritschheinkel_111: okay, cool! nforce driver10:21
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monkeybirhdhello?10:22
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mani_abattoir: i have made the changes fritsch told me about... now how do i restart my x-server... im guessing something like sudo /etc/X ....10:25
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abattoirmani_: the quickest way is Ctrl+Alt+Backspace....10:26
monkeybirhdanybody?10:26
abattoirmani_: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' also does the trick10:26
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apallo19how do i make the extra buttons on my mouse work10:27
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abattoirmonkeybirhd: what's the problem?10:27
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mani_abattoir: i pressed ctrl-alt-bksp... the screen flickered a lot and then i had to log in again... now, how do i know if everything is okay ?10:28
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monkeybirhdwhat should a wifi card be called (eth?) if it is the second net card?10:28
Dannilioncos it's screwed up since Dapper10:28
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Dannilionbut eth110:29
Danniliondo iwconfig to find out for certain though10:29
abattoirmani_: if the restart was successful, then everything is ok, i guess :)10:29
monkeybirhdeth0 is the 1st, whould this one be eth110:30
monkeybirhd?10:30
abattoirmonkeybirhd: generally eth0 is for the ethernet interface(if detected), the wireless interface could be named anything, depending on the driver10:30
abattoirmonkeybirhd: could be eth1, could be wlan0 could be rausb010:30
Dannilionwhat one is listed as wireless when you do iwconfig?10:30
mani_abattoir: but when i do a "glxinfo | grep -i direct" it says "direct rendering: NO"10:30
abattoirmonkeybirhd: which driver?10:30
Dannilionmine is eth1, but used to be wlan010:30
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monkeybirhddwl-g51010:31
monkeybirhddlink10:31
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abattoirmani_: iirc, the sis driver does not support 3d acceleration, if that is what you are looking for.10:32
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monkeybirhdit says lo no wireless extensions10:32
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monkeybirhdeth0 no wireless extensions10:32
mani_abattoir: im just trying to improve my video performance when i play movies10:32
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abattoirmani_: hmm, using the sis driver doesnt help?10:33
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mani_abattoir: lemme check10:34
wamdHi all.10:34
monkeybirhdi just want wifi.10:34
Dannilioneth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"DJS"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"10:34
Dannilion - first line of mine with wireless10:34
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monkeybirhdcould it be "lo"10:35
josh___whats the command to configure wine10:35
wamdJust switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and I have a problem with a USB hard drive not being accessible by my regular user account though the shortcut on the desktop.10:35
wamdI get the error "Could not enter folder /media/usbdisk"10:36
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josh___nobody knows how to configure wine?10:37
monkeybirhdlogging off...10:37
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mani_abattoir: it is great now ! the video is very smooth... without any pauses or breaks... thanks a ton :D10:38
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abattoirmani_: thank fritsch if you get the chance tomorrow :)10:38
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mani_abattoir:  i will ! thanks to you too... im logging off now... thanks again :)10:38
office!antivirus10:39
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus10:39
abattoirmani_: no problem :)10:39
office!antivir10:39
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about antivir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
josh___oooh linux pwns windows yet again10:39
josh___hey has anyone seen XGL *drool*10:39
office!linuxvirus10:39
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2110:39
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aliasfredi need to test xgl :)10:40
josh___omg10:40
josh___i want it10:40
josh___NOW10:40
josh___on ubuntu though10:40
josh___thats why i wont get it, i dont like suse10:40
aliasfredright now i need a profiler :)10:41
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RawSewagehttp://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper10:41
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phreakys_hello10:41
phreakys_im in doubt about choosing ubuntu or kubuntu, and was hoping to get some advise here10:42
josh___dont doubt10:42
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josh___its the easiest one i've ever used10:42
phreakys_right now i have ubuntu installed(had kubuntu previously), but im not too happy about gnome10:42
phreakys_yea, it looks great too10:42
tsdgeosthen go with kubuntu again10:42
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josh___you can convert to kde10:42
tsdgeosas josh___ says no need to reinstall10:42
josh___holy crap you can put xgl on here?10:42
phreakys_wouldn't there be a problem with compiz/kde?10:42
Dannilionopen up Terminal10:43
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Danniliontype sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:43
phreakys_right now xgl/compiz is running perfectly under gnome10:43
Skrotphreakys_: nah. Either you use gnome window decoration, or cgwd for decoration.10:43
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josh___i installed it but don't know how to use it10:43
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Dannilionlog out, log back in with a KDE session10:43
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SkrotI've made a decoration for cgwd which resembles kubuntu's default colorscheme and smoothblend's buttons if anyone want it ;)10:43
phreakys_i use cgwd, but...i tried xgl on kde and noticed it started in a window10:43
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phreakys_nice10:44
Skrotah, I'm not quite sure.. I use aiglx10:44
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phreakys_you have ati?10:44
josh___are they gonna come out with an ubuntu that runs on xgl?10:44
josh___instead of having to install xgl after?10:44
SkrotI've got Intel i915 integrated graphics10:44
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phreakys_aha10:45
josh___what graphics cards do u guys have?10:45
Skrotjosh___: Xorg is getting aiglx by default, so I guess Ubuntu Edgy will ship with both10:45
phreakys_im still on fglrx with my ati10:45
phreakys_ati x70010:45
Skrotah, no aiglx for you =)10:45
phreakys_nope :-)10:45
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SkrotShould be just around the corner though10:46
phreakys_by the way...would it be possible to have multiple wallpapers mapped on the compiz cube in kde?10:46
wamd I'm having an issue with a USB hard drive.  It's automounting, but it's not accessible by regular users.10:46
phreakys_in gnome its kinda...impossible10:46
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SkrotI've got no idea, phreakys_10:46
Skrotseems impossible10:46
SkrotPerhaps because compiz/cgwd owns the viewports, not kwin/kdesktop or whatever =)10:47
phreakys_yea, im not sure what makes the wallpaper happen on compiz10:47
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phreakys_yea, indeed10:47
phreakys_would be a nice feature though10:47
Skrotindeed10:47
SkrotBoth aiglx, xgl and compiz has some maturing to do :)10:47
aseigophreakys_: that's a compix issue, not a kde issue10:48
DaSkreech!xgl10:48
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:48
aseigoer, compiz10:48
Skrotare you familiar with the project to add compositing to kwin, aseigo?10:49
phreakys_yea, too bad its still not build in, but i love it allready10:49
DaSkreechjosh___: I don't know if it's legal to have a working XGL Distro10:49
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aseigoSkrot: i was there in trysil when seli added composition plugin support, yes10:49
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aseigoDaSkreech: if by "working" you mean "include the binary x drivers" in the context of "letting people download it off the 'net like that" then no10:50
phreakys_ah well, ill put kubuntu in there. gnome sucks :)10:50
DaSkreechaseigo: Is there another way to get it working?10:50
aseigowell, binary x drivers aren't an issue (it's mit) it's the kernel bits10:51
aseigoDaSkreech: right now? not well, no10:51
DaSkreech:-)10:51
DaSkreechWell as it stands it can ship working for intel video cards10:51
phreakys_ill be back in an hour or so ;-) laterz10:51
aseigoDaSkreech: the newer ones once they hit the market in force, yeah10:52
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Skrotaseigo: Right, but do you know if the project is still active/alive or if it's been abandoned?10:52
DaSkreechWell I don't think that we care how many are out on the market or else we'd all be using Windows no?10:52
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aseigoSkrot: it's exactly where seli said it was left ... needing people to write plugins and do interesting graphicsy things10:53
aseigoSkrot: kwin is apparently "plugin ready" but needs plugins10:53
Skrotah10:53
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Ademanis there any program that enumerates the available network interfaces? and then tells you which are working?10:54
aseigothe funny thing is that i haven't heard this much hullaballoo over an x11 feature since aa text10:54
aseigoand at least aa text was immediately and obviously useful10:54
aseigo;)10:54
abattoirAdeman: ifconfig ??10:54
cyberedenHi! I need to share my internet connection to my Palm Treo 650. My PC is connected to a router and router is connected to a DSL modem. Any ideas? Thanks! :)10:54
DaSkreechaseigo: aa text is assume :)10:54
aseigoAdeman: the network interfaces module in the control center10:54
Ademanabattoir: yeah i just got told that, i'm gonna try it, i wanna write a little script that detects which network interfaces are available and then activates the correct one10:55
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aseigoAdeman: or if you want just info, kinfocenter10:55
aseigoAdeman: or if you are using it, knetworkmanager10:55
BlackHandcybereden: treo have bluetooth ? you can try to stablish ppp conection between linux and the treo, i use a similar system for my Tungsten T2 in my home10:55
aseigoAdeman: you mean like knetworkmanager?10:55
spazzdeath to the terminal and its damn errors, every SINGLE time i use it10:56
spazzive figured it out tho. its just that linux hates me.10:56
cyberedenBlackHand: how please? treo 650 have bluetooth yes.10:56
jujimufuspazz: awwww... :D10:56
BlackHandcybereden: you need bluetooth in your PC10:56
spazzargh, nothing will install.10:56
spazzapt-get broken10:56
spazzdependency errors. all the time.10:56
spazzjust installed thislike 3 days ago10:57
Ademanaseigo: i'm on straight ubuntu, so i don't know, i was reffering to a program in the userland sense, which doesnt depend on the Desktop Environment10:57
cyberedenBlackHand: i have everything, only setup is needed10:57
BlackHandcybereden: or you can try with the usb cable10:57
BlackHandok10:57
aseigoAdeman: networkmanager10:57
aseigoAdeman: which has frontends of dbus, knetworkmanager and whatever the gnome binary is called10:57
abattoirspazz: we could help you if you could actually pastebin some of those errors :)10:57
abattoir!pastebin > spazz10:58
BlackHandcybereden: http://atulchitnis.net/writings/palm-ppp.php10:58
BlackHandand10:58
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BlackHandcybereden: this one is for usb cable, but works with bluetooth with few changes10:59
BlackHandtry first with the usb cable, and after this, try with bt10:59
spazzI was loading pastbin before i came in here10:59
spazzinternet being SLOW10:59
cyberedenok thanks BlackHand10:59
spazzhad to use it a bunch yesturday lol10:59
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2166810:59
cybereden:)10:59
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abattoir!info libmono011:01
ubotulibmono0: libraries for the Mono JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 762 kB, installed size 1968 kB11:01
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Catullhi :)11:02
spazzaargh, linux = broken lol11:02
BlackHandcybereden: after u can try this http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/s.zachariadis/btpalmlinux.html11:02
BlackHandy use the first one with some changes for my conection via bt, but this second one works too11:02
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cyberedenBlackHand: which one's the easiest?11:03
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CatullDaSkreech: back again ;)11:04
BlackHandcybereden: both ones are easier, the first one is for usb-cable (more faster to setup) the second one is for bt (take a little more time to setup, but is not complicated)11:04
DaSkreechCatull: Hello11:04
henobasic question: can konq be configured to let me move a file from one window to another by default (and not pop up the context menu)?11:04
cyberedenBlackHand: bluez is already installed as default. i can even send/receive files already but need inet connection11:06
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BlackHandcybereden: then the second one11:06
heno(and without holding shift)11:07
cyberedenBlackHand: i use dapper by the way. and rfcomm is not installed for some reason11:07
CatullDaSkreech: got time for some questions? ;)11:08
DaSkreechI don't knowAsk and lets see11:08
slougiis there a way to make album art work with ipods in amarok?11:09
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CatullDaSkreech: k.. was here 2 days before and wanted to install kubuntu and got stuck with the partition problems... MagicPartition vs gparted... remember that?11:09
slougiaccording to the amarok wiki it should work, and I checked that libgpod is linked to gdkpixbuf which is required. currently using amarok 1.4.1 from the official packages11:10
DaSkreechCatull:Yes11:10
CatullDaSkreech: now the question... i dont know why, but now would Mpart allow me to give 9gig for ext3 and 1 gig for swap (last time only 7^^) go on with mpart or start the livecd and go on with gparted?11:11
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josh___novell posted the source code for xgl11:12
josh___so everyone must be working on it now11:12
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Catull_Mac-.-11:13
DaSkreechCatull: Go with Mpart and reboot to make sure that the space has been made. Do you know how to use Disk manager?11:13
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CatullDaSkreech: to be honest: no -.-11:14
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Catullquitting here...11:15
Catull_Mac...and staying tuned here11:15
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deoptimaanyone have a fix for the crazy mouse issue on a touchpad?11:18
zblachwireless optical via usb11:18
zblachis there a way to check if a process is already running?11:19
intelikeywell i got my kernel down to 1.8m  i could prolly trim some more off of it. but i think i'll see how it performs as is.11:19
intelikeyzblach ps11:19
zblachkinda like ps -A | grep (process)11:19
intelikeypidof name11:19
pavel_hi everyone11:20
zblachi'm xbindkeysing, and i don't want to accidentally launch multiple instances of gmplayer11:20
intelikeypidof blah || blah11:21
zblachwhat does that do?11:21
intelikeywhat did you ask about11:21
zblachpidof gmplayer || gmplayer11:22
intelikeyyep11:22
zblachso, what does || mean?11:22
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intelikeyman bash    can explain it for you.11:22
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intelikey|| is the oppisite of &&11:22
pavel_I've got a problem: when I execute fglrx 8.28.8 I have an error: Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.28.8...Extraction failed.11:23
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intelikeylooks like a bad dl pavel_11:23
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intelikeymd5 it ?11:24
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Ok Where are you now?11:24
pavel_what si dl ?11:24
intelikeydown load11:24
pavel_what is dl?11:24
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zblachintelikey: thanks11:24
intelikeynp zblach11:24
pavel_I downloaded it from www.ati.com11:24
Catull_Macdaskreech: mpart is about to run the partition 8% -.-11:25
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intelikeyso md5 it  against their check sum     assuming they provide one11:25
DaSkreechOk11:25
DaSkreechWant to  find Disk Manager?11:25
Catull_Macyes11:25
Catull_Macfor sure :)11:25
pavel_may be problem in OS?11:26
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securehow can I restore my computer to the way that it was when I first installed Ubuntu if I don't have the CD?11:26
intelikeypavel_ you following the wiki ?11:26
intelikey!ati11:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:26
pavel_Yep.11:26
Bbettothe kmenu is gone11:27
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pavel_I used http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide11:28
WendelinI upgraded KDE to 3.5.4. What me now a bit annoys, that after the upgrade kpersonalizer pops up each time after logging in. How do I prevent kpersonalizer asking me after logging in?11:29
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Control Panel _> Adminstrative Tools11:29
DaSkreechUmm11:29
intelikeysecure rm -r $HOME ;mkdir $HOME ;cp /etc/skel/.* $HOME         note that you need to use full path rather than the verable $HOME  because you will have to sudo mkdir and chown it      all local customization is in $HOME11:29
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DaSkreechComputer Managerment?11:29
DaSkreechMangement11:29
intelikeyagain i caution.   that's a sketch  not a copy and paste command.11:29
Catull_Macdaskreech: i?m still waiting for Mpart to finisch the partition job :(11:30
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DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Ohhh it's REboot CD?11:30
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intelikeysecure you can use your file browser to rm things in $HOME  make sure it's displaying hidden11:31
Bbettomy panel is gone11:31
pavel_intelikey, that manual is correct? I mean that did toy install your driver with that how-to?11:31
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Bbettoi need see it again11:31
Bbettohow?11:31
pavel_/did you..11:32
intelikeypavel_ ?11:32
intelikeyBbetto [alt] +[f2]      run kicker11:32
Catull_Macdaskreech: no .. mpart asked me to reboot and before xp could start it opened a "blue" window telling me being about to partionate... not able to do something els on that pc... i?m sitting here on my old powerboobk ;)11:32
intelikeykicker11:32
pavel_I can try it, but is it right?11:32
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Ahh Ok Coolness That makes perfect sense11:33
Catull_Mac;)11:33
intelikeypavel_ for ati ?    i have nvidia so idk.   but it's the "official" *buntu way.11:33
Catull_Macdaskreech: maybe this time everything will come to place11:33
Catull_Mac;)11:33
Bbettoi try run kicker but nothig hapend11:33
pavel_ok.11:33
DaSkreechYeah we will just make sure that the partitions are thenre first11:34
intelikeyBbetto you didn't type "run kicker" did you.    i mean to run the command "kicker"11:34
DaSkreechThere first11:34
Bbettoyes11:34
Bbettois taht i made11:34
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intelikeyi don't use pannels.    heck i don't even use a gui.11:35
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pavel_ok. what does fakeroot mean?11:35
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DaSkreech!fakeroot11:35
ubotufakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB11:35
intelikeyfakeroot is an app11:36
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pavel_it worked when I add11:36
pavel_   3.11:36
pavel_      fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper11:36
pavel_    *11:36
intelikeynice.   so only root can exec that.    learn something new every day.11:37
Bbettoi don't see my panel11:37
pavel_Of cource I add sudo11:37
pavel_Of course I add sudo11:37
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DaSkreechCatull_Mac: So what have you been up to?11:38
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Catull_Macdaskreech: hehe... 54% .. thats it...11:38
intelikeyBbetto if you can't get there anyother way.  just hit [alt] +[ctrl] +[backspace] 11:39
Catull_Maci think i?m starting to hate mpart^^11:39
cybereden!Ibon US__BIF_NAKED.MPG11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ibon US__BIF_NAKED.MPG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
DaSkreechWhat did it do?11:39
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Catull_Macdaskreech: its f****** slow :(11:39
intelikeyoh the 54% bug    :)11:39
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: it's trying to move the Windows swap file? Maybe11:40
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intelikeyoooo should rm that sucker first.11:40
pavel_strange. I read that people installed this driver to their *buntu11:40
Catull_Macdaskreech: oh sorry... actually no real problem the process is going on... 62% ;)11:41
DaSkreechGood11:41
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Catull_Maconly a "bit" slow11:41
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intelikeywell it's not the 54% bug after all11:41
Catull_Maclol11:42
pavel_:)11:42
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intelikeywhat card you got pavel_?  (just curious)11:43
pavel_I've got 9200 mobility11:43
intelikeymmm11:44
DaSkreech?me whistles and Juggels Vista Cds11:45
pavel_It's very big problem for me, because I tried a lot of time to install ati driver and still haven't did this11:45
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intelikey/me11:45
DaSkreech>_<11:45
pavel_I think problem is that is "mobility" card11:45
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intelikeymaybeee sew11:46
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Frederickfolks quanta package for x86 is broken =/11:47
intelikeyhmmmm another official update that hoses things ?11:48
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intelikeyFrederick what do you mean broken and have you filed a bug report ?11:49
Frederickinc|freaky, Ive not filled it yet, broken = runs once and now siegvigs11:49
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intelikeyk11:51
intelikeywhat's the major/minor on hdb ?11:51
intelikeyanyone ?11:51
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josephhi i need to develop stuff with winbind and i need the dev files for whatever kubuntu packages files such as winbindd_nss.h11:52
josephwhat would the package name be?11:52
josephthanks in advance, joseph11:52
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intelikeyjoseph apt-cache [search,show]  <blaw>11:53
intelikeyapt-cache search winbind11:53
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josephjoseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-cache search winbindd_nss.h11:55
josephjoseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-file search winbindd_nss.h11:55
josephi don't see anything m811:55
josephi tried your other suggestion as well11:56
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josephintelikey: are you there?11:57
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Catull_Macdaskreech: wohooooo... seems to be over... now should i boot from the livecd?11:57
intelikeyjoseph just showing you how to search the package database.    normally there will be -dev packages show up.   not for winbind though11:57
cutepinkbunnieshello11:57
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: No reboot and Go into windows11:57
cutepinkbunniesanyone know of an application for kubuntu that will allow straight C++ programming for terminal (non-gui or gui)?11:57
Catull_Maci am11:57
josephyeah, so how would i get them?11:57
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josephi will try asking in #samba, but it's deader than a doorknob11:58
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josephcutepinkbunnies: vim + g++?11:58
Catull_Macdaskreech: i am in windows :)11:58
cutepinkbunniesok g++ is GUI right?11:58
intelikeyjoseph kdevelop might pull in all the kde stuff you need.    as for the file you named. "winbindd_nss.h"  check the source package of winbind    i really don't know11:58
cutepinkbunniesand vim?11:58
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DaSkreechControl Panel -> Adminstrative Tools -> Computer management11:59
josephcutepinkbunnies: have you developed in C++ before?11:59
cutepinkbunniesI'd like something like Codewarrior Pro11:59
josephcutepinkbunnies: g++ == C++ compiler of the GNU Compiler Collection11:59
josh___whats that firewall for linux?11:59
josh___oooh firestartedr11:59
Catull_Macdaskreech: umm.. xp asks me 2 reboot cause new hardware and change in the system^^11:59
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intelikeyjoseph be sure and install build-essential  if you havent already12:00
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: :-P12:00
intelikeyjosh___ it's iptables12:00
pavel_sorry, how I can connect to another channel?12:00
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Check my thing first12:00
intelikeyjosh___ or the older ipchains12:00
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pavel_I use konversations12:00
DaSkreechpavel_: /join #chan12:00
intelikeyfirestarter is just a configuration tool for iptables12:00
DaSkreechOr if you want to be reaaaaaly lazy type the #channelname then click on it12:01
shane_Hey i got a question about mp3's. How would I go about finding a room to ask in as to not be off topic?12:01
pavel_#ubuntu-ru12:01
DaSkreech!offtopic12:01
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:01
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cutepinkbunniesjoseph: I was looking for something comprable to CodeWarrior Pro from Metaworks I think12:01
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josephsorry, cutepinkbunnies my connection is selectively dropping packets, if you said anything i didn't get it, my condolences12:02
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Found it?12:02
cutepinkbunniesnp12:02
cutepinkbunniesintelikey suggested kdevelop, is that like codewarriorpro joseph12:02
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Catull_Macdaskreech: no... i have 2 find your description.... matching 2 german names -.-12:03
DaSkreechAhh :-)12:04
Catull_Mac:/12:04
DaSkreech!de > Catull_Mac :)12:04
intelikeywhat's the major/minors on hdb someone ?    is it 3,64  ?12:04
DaSkreech!de > Catull_Mac12:04
DaSkreechStupid Bot :)12:04
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Bbettohi, my panel desaper12:05
Catull_Macdaskreech cool -.-12:05
intelikeycan't grin at the bot DaSkreech   hehhe12:05
DaSkreechintelikey: Get Seveas to work on the facial recognition12:05
Bbettoi don't see my panel and all the menus like kmenu, home, etc12:06
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intelikeyDaSkreech put Bbetto's kicker back in gear for him/her12:07
intelikey:)12:07
Bbetto?????12:07
intelikeyBbetto the app that produces the pannel is called 'kicker'12:08
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intelikeyin kde that is12:08
soulriderhi everyone12:08
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