[12:10] <srdjant> uwo: you have to check /sys/bus/usb/devices/  or run dmesg and see what it says about your device.
[12:11] <srdjant> uwo: actually i think the kernel is already using the usb-storage driver, and if I understand correctly, you only want to change the icon...
[12:13] <apallo19> noone's talking!
[12:13] <srdjant> i am!
[12:13] <apallo19> hiya wolfmanz
[12:14] <wolfmanz> hello
[12:16] <uwo> srdjant: the icon is one thing - but it is just one of the consequences - on kcontrol i can't change separate options for my real camera and for the ipod, because both are recognised as cameras - when i do properties on the ipod icon on desktop, it also says camera....
[12:16] <A|i3N> Hey is there an HTML editor for linux that for all practical purpose looks like Front Page?
[12:16] <david_> yes, mozilla composer
[12:16] <apallo19> you could always install frontpage...
[12:16] <A|i3N> or would that be open offices version
[12:16] <A|i3N> with wine you mean, apallo?
[12:16] <apallo19> yeah
[12:16] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:16] <apallo19> nite
[12:17] <A|i3N> nah.. hehe.. i want a linux version... after the IE i installed didn't quite work the same as in windows i don't think I'd put front page on
[12:17] <A|i3N> David_ can I get that from the repository?
[12:17] <apallo19> meh, wine works for me with almost no problems
[12:17] <srdjant> front page is evil. use something else. dreamweaver or quanta.
[12:17] <david_> yes, let me see
[12:17] <cexar> anybody know how to configure a webserver in apache2 ?
[12:18] <apallo19> could try googleing freeware wysiwyg webpage editor
[12:18] <srdjant> uwo: I don;t know how to configure that then. I've never had a usb camera and don't know how kde reacts to one. Also never had an ipod. :/
[12:18] <david_> and you will get tons of win software
[12:18] <A|i3N> there isn't a Netobjects Fusion-like version available for linux is there?
[12:18] <apallo19> so narrow it
[12:18] <cexar> anyone?
[12:19] <david_> didnt found in the repos, try to find a deb
[12:19] <srdjant> cexar: edit the apache configuration file
[12:19] <cexar> yeah, i did it, but it doesnt work
[12:19] <srdjant> and that means what?
[12:20] <cexar> i've edited apache2.conf
[12:20] <cexar> but can't resolve domains
[12:21] <srdjant> can you resolve domains? maybe it's a problem with your linux setup, and not apache2
[12:22] <cexar> can resolve the DNS ie selected
[12:22] <cexar> but i have internet ok
[12:22] <cexar> really i need to redirect a domain to my local server
[12:23] <Fo0p> y0
[12:23] <Fo0p> bandit
[12:27] <Danish> i tried but apache failed on windows can somebody help set it up on kubuntu
[12:29] <cexar> ok
[12:30] <cexar> i guess no one more knows anything
[12:33] <josh__> wow
[12:33] <josh__> kernel panic
[12:34] <josh__> anyways doesn anyone mind helping me with my realtek drivers?
[12:34] <srdjant> :(
[12:34] <josh__> yeh i'm pretty mad about this
[12:35] <josh__> but all the errors happened when they tried finding alsa
[12:35] <srdjant> realtek are pretty good, should work
[12:35] <srdjant> what kernel version?
[12:35] <josh__> and it didn't detect my sound card
[12:35] <josh__> uh i dont know actually
[12:35] <josh__> but i'm doing a huge update right now
[12:36] <josh__> ok after it does this massive update i'll check what kernel i have
[12:38] <arkygeek> hi
[12:39] <nkRush> who gets such hostnames: open.192.194.66.in-addr.arpa ? oO
[12:39] <arkygeek> so i have kubuntu installed, configured, and actually working prtty dang well
[12:39] <arkygeek> :D
[12:40] <josh__> k i'm removing adept then reinstalling
[12:41] <srdjant> is adept bad?
[12:43] <josh__> i mean alsa
[12:43] <josh__> god i'm confusing everything today
[12:43] <josh__> whats the command for running adept
[12:46] <josh__> ok i can't find adept whats going on here
[12:46] <srdjant> alsa or adept? ;P
[12:47] <srdjant> sudo /usr/bin/adept
[12:47] <x311> wuusuup
[12:48] <josh__> it can't find adept
[12:48] <josh__> wtf is going on
[12:48] <srdjant> maybe it was uninstaled
[12:49] <josh__> ok how do i reinstall adept
[12:49] <misieq> what is the name of a program that could apply some info to wallpaper? and i don't mean superkaramba
[12:49] <RawSewage> image tags?
[12:50] <misieq> i think it actually changed the wallpaper and applied some text to it. the names started with t... tr... something like that
[12:50] <srdjant> josh__: sudo apt-get install adept    <--- maybe that will work
[12:50] <RawSewage> I think you can do that by right-clicking desktop
[12:50] <RawSewage> Configure
[12:51] <RawSewage> Advanced Options on the right
[12:51] <RawSewage> nm
[12:51] <RawSewage> disregard
[12:51] <kraut> hi
[12:51] <josh__> there we go
[12:51] <RawSewage> I was wrong
[12:51] <kraut> from special reasons i need to install kubuntu with the automatic partitionary tool but without swap, is that possible?
[12:51] <misieq> RawSewage: hmmm... haven't known that before. might be useful thanks anyway
[12:52] <RawSewage> I was wrong
[12:52] <misieq> why?
[12:54] <josh__> ok now i can't run system settings
[12:54] <srdjant> time for me to go to sleep. nite all
[12:54] <RawSewage> misieq, telak?
[12:55] <misieq> no, i don't think so...
[12:55] <RawSewage> ok
[12:56] <misieq> i might be wrong with this name...
[12:56] <josh__> m'k
[12:56] <josh__> now system settings isn't in my kmenu
[12:57] <josh__> my kicker is missing
[12:57] <RawSewage> do this
[12:57] <josh__> ok suse here i come
[12:57] <RawSewage> run kcontrol first
[12:58] <RawSewage> Desktop
[12:58] <RawSewage> Panels
[12:58] <RawSewage> Menus tab
[12:58] <RawSewage> check Settings
[12:59] <josh__> the specified library kicker could not be found
[12:59] <josh__> that CAN"T be good
[01:00] <ubuntu__> !xgl > ubuntu__
[01:00] <josh__> i have suse 10 disks right here
[01:00] <josh__> i think i'm gonna go install it now
[01:01] <RawSewage> did you even do anything I said
[01:02] <josh__> ya
[01:02] <RawSewage> alt+f2
[01:02] <RawSewage> kcontrol
[01:02] <RawSewage> doesnt work?
[01:02] <josh__> ya
[01:02] <josh__> alt f2 just says run command
[01:02] <RawSewage> then type kcontrol
[01:03] <josh__> could not run/
[01:03] <RawSewage> Then go to Desktop - Panels - Menus Tab
[01:03] <RawSewage> weird
[01:03] <josh__> ya i messed something up badly
[01:03] <RawSewage> maybe in a console try  sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[01:03] <josh__> ah
[01:05] <misieq> RawSewage: ahhh... tracked it down. here is screenie: http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/1687/screenshotoct059na.png but i still don't know the name
[01:06] <josh__> ok
[01:06] <misieq> (the thing on the lower right)
[01:07] <RawSewage> the CID thing
[01:07] <RawSewage> thats Kubuntu?
[01:08] <misieq> i don't think so
[01:08] <RawSewage> lol
[01:08] <RawSewage> that looks like Gentoo
[01:08] <RawSewage> I think youre in the wrong channel
[01:09] <misieq> i use kubuntu so i'm in the right channel. never mind the distro on the screenshot, i just try to identify this prog.
[01:09] <RawSewage> oh
[01:09] <josh__> whats that thing where you can have each desktop on one side of a cube
[01:09] <josh__> then u just spin it around
[01:09] <RawSewage> glx/compiz
[01:10] <josh__> is that a package?
[01:10] <RawSewage> misieq, oops.  I got you confused with josh__
[01:10] <misieq> RawSewage: have you tried that in kubuntu?
[01:10] <josh__> m'k
[01:10] <misieq> i mean glx?
[01:10] <RawSewage> glx/compiz was for josh__
[01:11] <misieq> i know, but i was asking if you tried that :)
[01:11] <RawSewage> misieq,  I dont know what you need for that
[01:11] <RawSewage> no
[01:11] <RawSewage> Oh
[01:11] <RawSewage> yes, Ive used compiz/xgl
[01:11] <misieq> and how did it work?
[01:11] <RawSewage> it ran nicely on my 2ghz 512 ram NVidia 4200
[01:12] <RawSewage> I think it requires Nvidia 4000+
[01:12] <RawSewage> everythign was full speed
[01:12] <misieq> i've used kororaa and i was overwhelmed by its performance on my axp1800+ 784mb gf2 mx 400 64mb
[01:13] <josh__> is glx/compiz a command or package or what
[01:13] <misieq> by the way... it's xgl not glx :] 
[01:14] <misieq> !xgl
[01:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:14] <RawSewage> oh yeah
[01:15] <josh__> i installed compiz now what
[01:15] <RawSewage> um
[01:15] <misieq> !xgl > josh__
[01:15] <RawSewage> you have to follow 100 stpes
[01:16] <RawSewage> youll have to follow a tutorial to the letter
[01:16] <RawSewage> it's a pain to get working
[01:16] <misieq> josh__: or you can get suse or kororaa ;P
[01:16] <RawSewage> read the link misieq gave   http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez
[01:23] <RawSewage> misieq, so you want something that displays system info on the wallpaper, but doesnt use SK
[01:25] <snowdrift> hello, all
[01:26] <snowdrift> i am using kubuntu and xp (dual boot). i need to set xp as the default OS. whats the easiest way to do this?
[01:26] <Tokeiito> labanktis/good night
[01:26] <aliasfred> snowdrift: there is an option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:26] <aliasfred> default=0
[01:27] <snowdrift> just edit the file manually?
[01:27] <aliasfred> but you replace 0 by the index of the boot you want
[01:27] <aliasfred> yep
[01:27] <snowdrift> that seems easy
[01:27] <aliasfred> kdedu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <aliasfred> kdesu even
[01:27] <snowdrift> kdedu?
[01:27] <snowdrift> is that an editor
[01:28] <aliasfred> nope it is the think allowing you to edit this file as superuser
[01:28] <snowdrift> i have a few things to learn
[01:28] <snowdrift> hahah
[01:28] <aliasfred> kate is the editor
[01:28] <aliasfred> :)
[01:29] <snowdrift> OK
[01:29] <snowdrift> I went to Run Command
[01:29] <snowdrift> and pasted it.
[01:29] <snowdrift> I got some error about "Could not run the specified command."
[01:29] <aliasfred> put that in a terminal
[01:30] <snowdrift> "command not found"
[01:30] <snowdrift> ... from Konsole.
[01:30] <aliasfred> ah ok :)
[01:30] <aliasfred> i rectified the kdedu by kdesu
[01:30] <snowdrift> ok
[01:30] <snowdrift> hold on
[01:30] <internat> ok i have a wierd error whenever i open kaffeine and then try to open my dvb card it logs me out and takes me back to the kubuntu login screen
[01:31] <aliasfred> internat: doesnt seem good :)
[01:31] <misieq> RawSewage: i know!
[01:31] <Ballistik> Are there any good SNES emulators for linux?
[01:31] <misieq> it's torsmo! :)
[01:31] <internat> obviously.. any suggestions of where to go etc?
[01:32] <aliasfred> internat: hmm i would talk to kaffeine people about it
[01:32] <aliasfred> some seem to be at #kaffeine
[01:33] <misieq> finally tracked it down... now i only have to find a config i want :) oh, and there;s also conky that seems to be what a superkaramba is to karamba
[01:38] <doppelganger__> hey, is there a straight out mute button somewhere in kubuntu?
[01:38] <doppelganger__> i'm looking in kmix and don't see it anywhere
[01:38] <internat> http://pastebin.com/775321 <== thats whats in the xorg log when it happens
[01:38] <internat> yeah the green light is clickable
[01:39] <obf213> hey my frostwire doesnt work anymore it says i need to upgrade to a new version (which I have) i remember last time i had to choose which java i wanted to you does anyone know how i get there
[01:39] <doppelganger__> nvm, i see, you can right click the icon and mute it
[01:40] <doppelganger__> blasted subwoofer must be out  ;(
[01:40] <doppelganger__> worked fine before i unplugged it today before a storm hit
[01:40] <doppelganger__> must run windows =\
[01:40] <bbeck_> join #apache
[01:41] <ootput> hi guys, i have the kubuntu 6.06 installation cd. After hearing about the error with the latest xorg patch, i became a bit concerned about the installation. If i were to use the installation cd, and then use the patch-system, would I be stuck as well?
[01:43] <obf213> anyone know how i selcted with java jre i want my computer to use
[01:43] <apexified> Argh, I upgraded my kernel through apt-get (on my laptop) and it stopped detecting the built in wireless modem... how can I revert back?
[01:43] <ryan_> ive got 4 hdd one has my os on it and i have movies and things like that on the others i cant access them.....i keep getting the error "Could not mount device. The reported erroe was: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab how do i fix this
[01:44] <oalles> can i install digikam in UBuntu as a debian package?
[01:44] <doppelganger__> ryan- goto system settings > disks and filesystems
[01:44] <doppelganger__> and check it out
[01:44] <snowdrift> is there something like roboform for linux?
[01:46] <obf213> !ubout
[01:46] <obf213> !java
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:47] <bbeck_> snowdrift: I don't know roboform, but perhaps you might look at kwallet if you haven't already.
[01:47] <internat> somehow ive managed to break sound, im not sure how, but i have no sound anywhere, now it is apparently not muted. ive checked and yeah
[01:47] <internat> any ideas on how to fix it oratleast return it back to default settings
[01:47] <obf213> yo anyone know how i can selcted which java to use
[01:53] <internat> ok correction, trying to play any media file in any program results in x crashing
[01:53] <linuxkid2> Anyone know anything about XDMCP?
[01:56] <aliasfred> internat: smell like a bug in the video driver
[01:56] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: no, what is it ?
[01:56] <internat> it was working yesterday
[01:57] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: XDMCP is a way of logging into a remote computer using an X server and the X protocol.
[01:57] <linuxkid2> !XDMCP
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <aliasfred> internat: so find out what you did since yesterday
[01:58] <snowdrift> how do minimize all windows in kubuntu to get back to the plain desktop?
[01:58] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: hmm usually people use either vnc or nx for that
[01:58] <misieq> snowdrift: you can add "desktop" aplet to kicker
[01:58] <linuxkid2> snowdrift: add the "show desktop" applet to the panel.
[01:58] <snowdrift> kicker?
[01:58] <linuxkid2> misieq: you beat me.
[01:58] <snowdrift> is that the system tray?
[01:58] <snowdrift> ;-)
[01:59] <misieq> yah, it's the panel
[01:59] <linuxkid2> the panel on the bottom, toolbar.
[01:59] <D4rkly> anyone want to help me install or build darwin streaming server
[01:59] <misieq> yet again ;P
[01:59] <linuxkid2> Kicker's the program, panel is what it is.
[01:59] <snowdrift> oh so much to learn
[01:59] <snowdrift> jesus
[01:59] <snowdrift> i feel like a child again
[01:59] <internat> obviously im trying but im not sure what it is that i have done
[01:59] <linuxkid2> it's ok.
[02:00] <misieq> being a child is cool, i can tell ;)
[02:00] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: I tried VNC but don't like it. I'm just trying to turn a windoze machine on the lan into another terminal, using X
[02:00] <internat> *sighs* looks like im going to copy my apt archive out again, and reinstall
[02:01] <obf213> i need help getting frostwire to open
[02:01] <linuxkid2> internat: what card, monitor, and driver yah got?
[02:01] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: i think there are nx client for window. nx is much faster that vnc
[02:01] <misieq> what's the deal with vnc/x? fill me in...
[02:01] <snowdrift> why dont you just use windows remote terminal over openssh?
[02:01] <internat> umm radeon 9600, lg lcd 17" and fglrx
[02:01] <snowdrift> thats what i do from work
[02:01] <obf213> it used to open after i changed to java choice 3, but now it doesnt open anymore
[02:01] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: I don't mind VNC's speed. It just takes over the display instead of getting to KDM login screen when I start, which is what I want.
[02:02] <snowdrift> reduce the colors u use
[02:02] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: does NX work the way I want?
[02:02] <snowdrift> and turn off all animation
[02:02] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: hmm i think it launch a new X server, so i would say no
[02:03] <jbirdAngel> Hello, im wondering how big an impact the MHz of a proccessor would have, like how big a difference would be between a 500 mhz, a 1 gig,  and a 1.5?
[02:03] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: actually, that might work. I was trying to connect Xming over the network, so only clients run on the connected machine.
[02:03] <ryan_> how do i change the premissions of a harddisk
[02:04] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: I have 450mhz but it runs so slow occasionally that I want to switch to Xubuntu.
[02:04] <linuxkid2> ryan_: I think that's in /etc/fstab
[02:04] <jbirdAngel> linuxkid2: okay thanks, what kind of progs do you run
[02:04] <snowdrift> where does firefox install by default?
[02:04] <snowdrift> ;-)
[02:05] <snowdrift> any why isnt there a shortcut on the start bar?
[02:05] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: I have OpenOffice, but KOffice for small stuff cause it's faster. Same with Firefox and Konqueror. The native KDE stuff is always faster.
[02:06] <linuxkid2> snowdrift: you want to map the Windows key to the KMenu right? I was wondering too.
[02:06] <linuxkid2> I don't know how, does anyone else?
[02:09] <ryan_> linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it
[02:09] <ryan_> linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it
[02:11] <jbirdAngel> luxkid2 okay thanks what about trying like gimp and inkscape ?
[02:11] <jbirdAngel> do you know how those work
[02:13] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: Gimp and Inkscape work but not if I try loading a huge 20megapixel TIFF or something like that. Inkscape comes on Puppy for heavens sake and is very fst.
[02:13] <jbirdAngel> linuxkid2: okay thanks
[02:13] <jbirdAngel> though i dont know what you said about inkscape means
[02:14] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: Inkscape comes with Puppy, the tiny fast distro for old hardware. It's fast.
[02:15] <jbirdAngel> oh okay thanks
[02:20] <A|i3N> hey - trying to compile something (nmap security scanner) I
[02:20] <A|i3N> I'm getting "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[02:20] <A|i3N> so ........... what do i needa grab from the repository hehe
[02:20] <shawnc> I have a simple question (I think)
[02:21] <shawnc> I need the source code for the 606 kernel - apparently I don't have it
[02:21] <aliasfred> !build
[02:21] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Install build-essential
[02:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:21] <aliasfred> and nmap is likely to be available as pacakge:)
[02:22] <A|i3N> well it is available as an RPM - does kubuntu have an rpm manager?
[02:22] <shawnc> thx
[02:24] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Kubuntu uses deb files since it's debian based
[02:24] <A|i3N> ah ok. Thanks
[02:25] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap  will install it for you
[02:26] <A|i3N> already installing the compiler but I guess I can get it that way - probably be easier. Then I guess I need to get the front end too hehe
[02:26] <A|i3N> need the compiler anyways I'm sure. :)
[02:27] <DaSkreech> try adept :-)
[02:32] <A|i3N> Hawkwind - which front end do I want to specify in apt-get for nmap?
[02:33] <A|i3N> there's two listed in Adept
[02:33] <ryan_> im having problems trying to mount a ntfs drive....if some one could help me or point me to a nob friendly tutorial
[02:34] <omeow> Hi, can I start a new windowed session in kubuntu?
[02:35] <Hawkwind> omeow: What do you mean exactly ?
[02:35] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Just get them both :P
[02:35] <Martijn81> ryan_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[02:35] <A|i3N> lol ok
[02:36] <ryan_> thanks martijin81
[02:36] <A|i3N> thank you Hawkwind. I'm very new to this :) I'm a newly converted windows man ;)
[02:36] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap would have done everything for you
[02:37] <Martijn81> ryan_: if you scroll some down you see howto automaticly mount ntfs, but keep in mind that writing to ntfs is not working
[02:37] <A|i3N> oh ok - well that's what I did but how do I launch it with the front end? it made no icon
[02:38] <draik> Hello everyone
[02:38] <omeow> Hawkwind, you can click on K=> Switch user => Start new session, but I'd like to know if it's possible to window a new session.
[02:38] <draik> What are the odds that a motherboard short circuits while you're using it?
[02:39] <draik> Cuz I am that 1 in a #
[02:39] <drgonzo> hello all
[02:39] <draik> hello drgonzo
[02:39] <drgonzo> can someone point me to a howto on setting up bogofilter with kmail?
[02:39] <A|i3N> draik, the odds could be pretty good lol, that's usually when they break, while they're on :)
[02:39] <draik> true
[02:40] <draik> Here's another... it's a hateway
[02:40] <A|i3N> i'm sorry.
[02:40] <draik> so am I
[02:40] <A|i3N> well the good news is you should be able to replace it with a generic board.
[02:40] <draik> I was working on it
[02:40] <draik> that leads me to my question...
[02:41] <draik> where can I find a motherboard that supports Celeron 2.0GHz and PC2100 RAM?
[02:41] <draik> Dunno how many pins on the processor
[02:41] <A|i3N> try www.pricewatch.com
[02:41] <draik> thank you A|i3N
[02:41] <A|i3N> or www.newegg.com
[02:41] <A|i3N> you can find just about anything on those two
[02:42] <grayghost> Is there an apt-get command I can use to get kdevelopment?
[02:42] <A|i3N> pricewatch is great though just be careful who you're buying from, it's kinda like ebay and each vendor has feedback
[02:42] <A|i3N> it's not an auction site though. :)
[02:42] <ryan_> martijin81: i have music and movies on the drive is there any way i can convert the file system without loosing the data
[02:42] <drgonzo> I've installed bogofilter and run the wizard in kmail, but I would like to train it etc
[02:43] <draik> A|i3N, how's this for my personal monitor?  http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_center/press_rel/2006/extio_f1400.cfm
[02:43] <Hawkwind> grayghost: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[02:43] <Hawkwind> !info kdevelop3
[02:43] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:45] <draik> or maybe just this one... http://www.matrox.com/graphics/offhome/th2go/home.cfm
[02:45] <omeow> How do I make a screenshot of kdm?
[02:46] <A|i3N> i really can't tell ya much about monitors personally
[02:46] <A|i3N> that's pretty dang cool though lol
[02:48] <Hawkwind> draik: I doubt that would work with Linux though :(
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> im gonna go
[02:49] <jbirdAngel>  9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9 KJV
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> bye now
[02:49] <A|i3N> *decided he doesn't like nmap and removes it* lol
[02:50] <A|i3N> Hey.. if I installed something... and I want to remove it.. like Internet explorer running on wine... is it just a matter of deleting the directory?
[02:50] <A|i3N> or do i needa follow the proper removal proceedure like in windows
[02:50] <Hawkwind> Ask the experts in #WineHQ
[02:50] <draik> A|i3N, how do I find out the pin-type of a 2.0GHz Intel Celeron?
[02:51] <A|i3N> lemme look
[02:51] <A|i3N> i've been outta the repair business for a while
[02:52] <grayghost> I have tried the command  sudo apt-get install kdevelop     .... and get message not available   .... help.
[02:52] <Hawkwind> grayghost: I told you the command to use:  sudo apt-get install kdevelop3   It has to have the 3 at the end
[02:52] <grayghost> that did not work either.
[02:53] <Hawkwind> grayghost: You also need to make sure you have the universe repo setup
[02:53] <Hawkwind> !repos > grayghost
[02:53] <Hawkwind> Follow what the bot just told you in pm then
[02:53] <A|i3N> draik: should be socket 478
[02:53] <draik> sure?
[02:53] <draik> right you are
[02:53] <draik> A|i3N, correct
[02:53] <draik> sorry, no prize
[02:54] <A|i3N> why for is the java on the pricewatch page freezing the browser.. heh..
[02:54] <grayghost> universe prpos ???
[02:55] <Hawkwind> grayghost: Please read what the bot told you in PM
[02:55] <linuxkid2_> How do I enable OpenSSH?
[02:55] <A|i3N> draik what kind of RAM do you have again?
[02:55] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2_: sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:55] <grayghost> thanks I will give up now
[02:55] <yeager_> test
[02:55] <Hawkwind> yeager_: Failed!
[02:55] <linuxkid2_> k
[02:55] <Hawkwind> grayghost: Give up ?
[02:55] <A|i3N> draik: here's the site for the 478 boards on pricewatch http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboards/263725-1.htm
[02:55] <ryan_> how do i format a drive
[02:56] <otis> hello all
[02:56] <linuxkid2_> Hawkwind: is that the daemon? or the client and daemon?
[02:56] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2_: Both.  When you install it, it will start it for you automatically
[02:56] <linuxkid2_> k
[02:56] <draik> PC2100 RAM
[02:56] <draik> PC2100U
[02:58] <draik> A|i3N, PC2100, DDR 184-pin
[02:58] <A|i3N> draik: http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=P8F176&Category_Code=Motherboards
[02:58] <garret> Is there a newer version of shockwave than 7 out, many web pages want version 9?
[02:58] <A|i3N> that board should work for you
[02:58] <Hawkwind> garret: No
[02:58] <otis> not yet
[02:59] <Hawkwind> garret: Flash 9 won't be available for linux until after the first of the year
[02:59] <garret> Hawkwind: shame :(
[02:59] <A|i3N> supports 2100, and socket 478 processors up to 3.x ghz
[02:59] <A|i3N> BUT it's mini-itx - not sure that'll fit the case so ... be careful... hehe..
[03:00] <garret> Does anyone know of a good place to buy "white box" laptops at a good price?
[03:00] <A|i3N> actually, looking at it, it has no expansion slots.. nevermind.. scratch that one..
[03:04] <shane_> hey I installed nvidia drivers how do I know I have 3D support? Is there a command to get some info?
[03:04] <Hawkwind> glxinfo | grep render
[03:05] <shane_> direct rendering yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 4000/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[03:06] <otaku-san> hey got a Krita question... does anyone know the channel?
[03:06] <otaku-san> Thinking about going to the Gimp....
[03:07] <otaku-san> !DaSkreech
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DaSkreech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <DaSkreech> Damn Skippy. Keep big Brother out of my stuff!!
[03:08] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: whoa man!  whats that all up for?
[03:09] <linuxkid2_> I got these errors when trying to run an aptitude installation. Installation worked, but this just seems wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21606
[03:10] <lanius> howto login with xdmcp and kdm?
[03:10] <A|i3N> ok ... I got a really stupid question ...................... how do i check how much disk space i have left?
[03:11] <lanius> KDiskFree
[03:11] <otaku-san> A|i3N: not really a stupid question....use QTparted
[03:11] <otaku-san> ......or that
[03:12] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Well I'd have been a bit perturbed if you asked ubotu about me and it responded well her real name is ..  choice of occupation is ... would you like an address?
[03:14] <otaku-san> DaSkreech:  .....it can do that....  Sorry man....was just checking something...not about you...I was trying that thing where it finds where they are in the channels...Jeez gave me a hard attack
[03:15] <vblanton> NickGarvey:
[03:15] <A|i3N> thanx :)
[03:16] <Ballistik> Are there any good SNES emulators for linux?
[03:16] <vblanton> hell yes
[03:16] <vblanton> snes9x is one
[03:16] <A|i3N> GOD i love linux.. i want software.. go to adept, search for it, boom, i got software.. lol..
[03:16] <A|i3N> much easier then windows now that i think about it.
[03:16] <vblanton> A|i3N: it's awesome :)
[03:17] <A|i3N> still figuring it out, it's kinda like learning DOS again but hey i can learn.
[03:17] <vblanton> Ballistik: look in Add/Remove for zsnes, snes9express, or GSnes9x (just search for snes)
[03:17] <lanius> xdmcp login dont work, can you help me?
[03:18] <vblanton> xdmcp is it enables on both ends?
[03:18] <lanius> yes
[03:18] <vblanton> Hmm.. kdm or gdm?
[03:18] <lanius> kdm
[03:19] <Zaphar_ps> I always had better success using GDM for xdmcp
[03:19] <Zaphar_ps> the setup seemed easier to me
[03:19] <vblanton> Sorry, I haven't actually ever used it. The one time I messed around with it it *just worked*.
[03:19] <Ballistik> vblanton: Thanks
[03:19] <linuxkid2_> GDM has a graphical XDMCP setup, kdm must be done with text files.
[03:19] <linuxkid2_> I think
[03:19] <simon__> hi guys quick question ive just put together a Pentium D system which version of Ubuntu do i get power pc 64 or alternative 64 or desktop 64?
[03:19] <vblanton> try searching on the wiki/forums for xdmcp
[03:20] <lanius> done... :)
[03:20] <vblanton> simon__: Pentium D isn't 64 bit, is it?
[03:20] <simon__> yep
[03:20] <linuxkid2_> vblanton: how about windows Cygwin connect XDMCP to Kubuntu
[03:20] <linuxkid2_> ?
[03:20] <vblanton> simon__: well then I would try the desktop 64
[03:21] <vblanton> simon__: powerpc is only for mac's. they use the PPC architecture. alternative is for OEM setups.
[03:21] <vblanton> linuxkid2_: dunno, never trie
[03:21] <vblanton> d
[03:21] <linuxkid2_> oh, well, gotta look elsewhere then. It's what I want to use but everyone says here to use something else.
[03:22] <vblanton> lanius: see if anyone in ubuntu has done it, also try gdm, if you have no luck. Sorry I can't help :(
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2_: I always used vnc to connect with xdmcp to my linux box
[03:22] <simon__> cool thanks for that
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> why are you wanting to use cygwin
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> never mind he left
[03:23] <vblanton> cygwin wouldn't work for that.. I don't tink
[03:23] <vblanton> I would use a virtual system within windows if he wanted that.
[03:23] <simon__> whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?
[03:23] <vblanton> anyone know why the fonts are messed up when I upgrade to kde 3.5.4?
[03:23] <vblanton> and/or how to fix it?
[03:24] <Zaphar_ps> vblanton: theoretically it would work but it's more work than just a VNC connection
[03:24] <vblanton> right
[03:24] <ryan_> what would be the easest way to use my ntfs hard drives
[03:24] <vblanton> *theoretically*
[03:24] <vblanton> ryan_: there is a guide online.. let me get the link..
[03:25] <ryan_> vblaton...thanks
[03:25] <linuxkid2> I STILL want XDMCP. Using X over SSH but XDMCP would be faster. Using 100Mbps LAN so don't need NX
[03:26] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: You mean whois?
[03:26] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Yeah....sorry for doing that again
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah I was just ramping with the Overlords :)
[03:27] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: VNC will connect to xdmcp when configured right on the host machine It's significanly easier than ssh or cygwin
[03:27] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Overlords?????
[03:27] <Zaphar_ps> and fairly snappy too
[03:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:27] <vblanton> ryan_: http://www.lifehacker.com/software/top/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[03:27] <vblanton> ryan_: scroll down to read/write NTFS support
[03:28] <ryan_> vblanton: thanks
[03:28] <vblanton> np
[03:29] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: how do I do that? when I use KDE's VNC stuff, it just kind of takes over the current user, instead of loging in on a new terminal in the background.
[03:29] <lanius> "udp6       0      0 :::177                  :::* " .............udp6 ?
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: nice
[03:30] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: one sec I'll get the link for a setup instructions
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: informative
[03:30] <linuxkid2> thanks
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: profound
[03:30] <lanius> what is udp6??
[03:32] <vblanton> dunnoo
[03:33] <vblanton> bye bye everybody
[03:33] <simon__> whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?   sorry to be a pain
[03:33] <otaku-san> hey if I were to put in "gimp" for an sudo apt-get install....would The Gimp be installed....just checking cuz' it looks like it wants to just install a bunch of packs
[03:33] <linuxkid2> desktop has the liveCD and that, but alternative has more install options
[03:34] <Jucato> otaku-san: yes
[03:34] <linuxkid2> otaku-san: gimp needs a milliion dependancies. but just "gimp" gets you the stuff.
[03:34] <Jucato> well, not a million... just a hundred :-D
[03:34] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:34] <linuxkid2> not much diff
[03:34] <otaku-san> heheh I figured...remembers some odd forum entry saying this...thanks
[03:35] <Jucato> otaku-san: I think you have to install the gimp-help package(s) separately
[03:36] <linuxkid2> Maybe, check packages.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhh...ok I'll put that in after this install and see if it does anything
[03:37] <SeanTater> lanius: ipv6--udp ?
[03:37] <vblanton> simon__: alternative is for OEM installs.. like replicating the same install on multiple machines. or for doing a system update. don't use it normally.
[03:37] <Zaphar_ps> hrmmm I couldn't find my original link for some reason but this one should be applicable
[03:37] <Zaphar_ps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564&highlight=vnc+gnome
[03:38] <otaku-san> Jucato: I wanted to change cause Krita is responding to my pen real slow...and I have stuff on getting Gimp to work.
[03:38] <linuxkid2> thanks
[03:39] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Hang around the paranoid long enough and you'll catch on
[03:39] <simon__> thanks guys for the tips :)
[03:41] <internat> since ihave more then one sound card in my computer how do i set what the default one is>
[03:41] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Hahaha!  I'll try
[03:41] <crimsun> internat: asoundconf set-default-card
[03:42] <crimsun> internat: use the output from asoundconf list
[03:42] <internat> err what if it says it doesnt find any cards?
[03:42] <internat> yet kmix does?
[03:42] <GameOver69> hey guys i cant install libtunepimp3-mp3... this is the error i get any idea how i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21607
[03:42] <crimsun> ``asoundconf list'' says it can't find anything?
[03:43] <internat> yeah it says names of available ccards: and then has nothing
[03:44] <Zaphar_ps> crimsun: have you tried uninstalling libtunepimp3?
[03:44] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, yes
[03:44] <otaku-san> Jucato: gimp-help-en
[03:44] <GameOver69> but it wont install without that file... and it installs that file first
[03:44] <Zaphar_ps> ehhh whoops wrong nick :-)
[03:44] <Jucato> otaku-san: yep, if you want the english docs :-D
[03:45] <crimsun> Zaphar_ps: eh?
[03:45] <crimsun> internat: what does /proc/asound/cards list?
[03:45] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: looks like maybe a package bug look on the buglist and see if it has any bugs associated with.
[03:45] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, any idea on how i can get this working... cause without it i cant get musicbrainz working
[03:45] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: this is for GDM. Instructions for GDM don't work withe kdm
[03:46] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69 have you run an update?
[03:46] <GameOver69> yes
[03:46] <alex_> hi
[03:46] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: in a pinch you could install gdm instead of kdm both will work with kde
[03:47] <Zaphar_ps> and actually I kind of prefer gdm myself :-)
[03:47] <alex_> I am trying to copy something to /usr/share/Wallpapers
[03:47] <alex_> but I am being denied access
[03:47] <alex_> what gives?
[03:47] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: use sudo?
[03:47] <saltro> kubuntu spain ?
[03:47] <internat> 1 sec its just rebooting ill check
[03:47] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:47] <GameOver69> i also get this error everytime i update/install a package in show details of adept http://pastebin.com/775382
[03:47] <Jucato> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:47] <saltro> please
[03:47] <GameOver69> but it still installs stuff
[03:47] <saltro> god thanks
[03:48] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: I added the sudo modification so that I am not asked for it everytime
[03:48] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: well, I don't really prefer either. but I don't want to hack my system that hard for something that should be simple and part of how the system works.
[03:49] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: that error can be ignored if you want to fix it you can install the debconf kde stuff
[03:49] <alex_> either way, permission is denied even with sudo
[03:50] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, i have those packages installed though
[03:50] <internat> i have 3 cards in proc/asound/cards
[03:50] <GameOver69> debconf, debutils, etc
[03:50] <internat> the built in card (which has been disabled in the bios yet still shows up) the pci card (which i want) and the audio out on the tv card
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <otaku-san> Jucato: Yeah!  heheh
[03:51] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: permission is denied nevertheless
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> alex
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: can you run sudo su?
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> and then see who owns the folder?
[03:52] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: it worked
[03:53] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: But how do I prevent this from happening, I want unrestricted access to everything without typing my password
[03:53] <otaku-san> Jucato: wow....is Gimp a culture shock for me or what....I normally use PS on windoze...then Krita which is like PaintShop Pro....then this....whatever it is ;)
[03:53] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, what do i do if i have those files installed?
[03:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: the GIMP is... unique :-D
[03:54] <otaku-san> Jucato: in true Linux fashion
[03:54] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: I don't know I've never done the sudo mod your talking about
[03:54] <linuxkid2> otaku-san I like it. I've used it on windows for about 6 months and now it's what I use.
[03:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: you might want to try the GIMPshop. it behaves more like Photoshop. I just don't know where to get it/how to install it. it's not in the repos
[03:54] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: ok, thanks anyway
[03:54] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: I'm not sure it looks like you may have a corrupted package db
[03:55] <Zaphar_ps> can you run aptitude?
[03:55] <otaku-san> Jucato: have you used it?
[03:55] <GameOver69> whats that?
[03:55] <Jucato> nope
[03:55] <linuxkid2> yeah, I tried running GIMPShop on windows once, but it kind of didn't like my normal GIMP
[03:55] <Jucato> I prefer to learn GIMP, the hard way :-D
[03:55] <GameOver69> whatever it is im running it now
[03:55] <linuxkid2> Yeah, the main thing that GIMPShop has is one window and more normal menus.
[03:55] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: its a command line package manager
[03:56] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee ^_^
[03:56] <otaku-san> linuxkid2: yeah I've heard good things about it...where did you get GIMPShop?
[03:56] <Zaphar_ps> see if you can run it in a terminal by typing sudo aptitude
[03:56] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, its up and loaded all of the cache
[03:56] <GameOver69> now what
[03:56] <Zaphar_ps> does it have anything at the top about broken packages?
[03:56] <otaku-san> Jucato: I think I'll try the Manual....I learned PS the hard way....not fun
[03:57] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, no
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> hit /
[03:57] <Jucato> otaku-san: one thing that's good about the GIMP is that there are a lot of guides for it. A quick Google search will be fruitful
[03:57] <GameOver69> ok and search for what
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> and then type the name of the package your trying to install in the box and hit enter
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> it should take you directly to it
[03:58] <linuxkid2> gimp-print works great with Epson inkjets
[03:58] <Zaphar_ps> hit the + key to mark it for install
[03:58] <Zaphar_ps> and then look to see if it has anything about broken packages at the top again
[03:59] <otaku-san> Jucato: ok, but first thing I want to learn from you is......Where is the main canvas!??!!?!  All I have are two windows with just the stuff like brushes and things....
[03:59] <oslo> how change the logon screen aspect ratio ??
[03:59] <Jucato> otaku-san: it will open in a separate window :-D
[03:59] <linuxkid2> file=>new something like that
[03:59] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, i dont see it saying anythign
[03:59] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: choose file->new
[04:00] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: hit g to install and see if it lets you do it
[04:00] <linuxkid2> where can I get midnight commander?
[04:00] <otaku-san> Ahh figured that out just as you wrote back
[04:00] <Jucato> lol
[04:00] <Zaphar_ps> you may have to hit it more than once
[04:00] <otaku-san> Thanks guys
[04:00] <Jucato> otaku-san: I think the GIMP resembles what Photoshop looks like on a Mac
[04:00] <Jucato> I mean the interface/windows
[04:01] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, shows me a list of  packages being deleted due to unsatisfied dependencies
[04:01] <otaku-san> Jucato: I think your right....blame those blaphemous Mac users for doing the abnormal...or maybe it's us Linux users who do that?
[04:02] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: are any of them the packages you had trouble with?
[04:02] <SpAwN> theres actualy a hack of gimp called photogimp thats supposed to be more lik ephotoshop
[04:02] <linuxkid2> is midnight commander or some other CLI file manager available?
[04:02] <GameOver69> just the debconf
[04:02] <GameOver69> but the libtunepimp still wont install
[04:02] <otaku-san> Jucato: no offence to Mac users....if I had a Mac...ohhhh the possibilitys *starts dreaming of having to boxes...one a mac...the other linux
[04:03] <Jucato> lol
[04:03] <Jucato> otaku-san: I might actually one of the very few who actually like the GIMP's interface :-D
[04:03] <linuxkid2> Very customizable, I say. That's the only reason I like it.
[04:03] <Jucato> thanks to window shading (Windows doesn't have this, right?) it's not so difficult to keep it uncluttered
[04:03] <linuxkid2> If I had to stay with the defualts, ohh :-(
[04:04] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, could it be a problem iwht the os... i just upgraded to edgy?
[04:04] <linuxkid2> hey, I have this neat little util that shades windows in Windows.
[04:04] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: well that's the limit of what I can recommend if you contact the package maintainer he might be able to give some insight
[04:04] <Zaphar_ps> if you just upgraded to edgy it's probably a bug
[04:05] <Zaphar_ps> edgy is still pretty unstable
[04:05] <otaku-san> Jucato: heheh I just might start liking it too...I've always loved the different.  And it looks pretty sweet.
[04:05] <GameOver69> yeah i know... but i always like the enwest sutff :)
[04:05] <Nerevar> hello... i downloaded kubuntu 6.06 dvd iso, and i have a question
[04:06] <Nerevar> i need to install linuxant for my linksys wireless g card
[04:06] <Jucato> otaku-san: the names of the tools and the keyboard shortcut just get a bit of getting used to. and the layers...
[04:06] <Nerevar> i go to the page and am presented with these options:
[04:06] <Nerevar> https://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[04:06] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: I always liked Gimp
[04:06] <Nerevar> as i cannot access the internet without the wireless card, i would like to know which i will need in advance
[04:06] <linuxkid2> Is there a file manager that acts like Aptitude?
[04:06] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: you might check out cinepaint too if you  like higher color ranges
[04:07] <otaku-san> Jucato: can it change to CMYB?
[04:07] <Jucato> CMYK?
[04:07] <linuxkid2> otaku-san: that's CMYK, B means Blue
[04:07] <otaku-san> k.....sorry...brain on slow....
[04:07] <otaku-san> k I meant k
[04:08] <Nerevar> can someone tell me what kernel version will install with that dvd download? thanks.
[04:08] <Jucato> one thing the GIMP still lacks is native CMYK support... there are plugins though...
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> I see Xara has released a functional version of Xara Xstream for linux :-)
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> yippee
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: Open source?
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: yes
[04:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yeah
[04:08] <linuxkid2> Heck, half of GIMP's functionality is either plug-ins or script-fu
[04:08] <Jucato> Xara LX
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> I'm using it now and it's pretty sweet
[04:08] <otaku-san> Jucato: ok I'm getting those....I'll probably need to go through it and do alot of plugins....
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> bit of a learning curve though
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Seriously?
[04:09] <Jucato> linuxkid2: but something as basic as RGB and CMYK should be built-in
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Was Xara always open source?
[04:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes
[04:09] <linuxkid2> yes, true
[04:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no
[04:09] <Nerevar> ok. thanks. ill just download all of these and see what happens.
[04:09] <Jucato> not always
[04:09] <Jucato> it was just recent
[04:09] <Jucato> a few months ago
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: no they just recently went open source
[04:09] <otaku-san> Jucato: I'll install Inkscape later....right now I'm getting off
[04:09] <otaku-san> See ya
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> first a library and now the whole app
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: They are walking the blender path?
[04:10] <Jucato> but Xara is a different kind of graphics app. It's a vector graphics app. Much like Inkscape
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: perhaps
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Hmm Schweet
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> the windows version is still commercial though no OSS
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> but who knows what they'll do
[04:10] <linuxkid2> I like inkscape actually. It's forte is drawings and logos and stuff. web standards too.
[04:11] <Jucato> or anything SVG/vector graphics
[04:11] <Zaphar_ps> Xara is more for professional design like Illustrator.
[04:11] <linuxkid2> well, I can't get OOo Draw to do SVG. Is Xara SVG?
[04:11] <Jucato> I'm still trying to get familiar with how to do colors in vector graphics
[04:11] <Zaphar_ps> Xara will export svg yes
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> and import too
[04:12] <linuxkid2> I may try it.
[04:12] <Jucato> SVG is a file format...
[04:12] <linuxkid2> is it the multiverse repo?
[04:12] <Jucato> DaSkreech: for your reading pleasure: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> no you have to download from the website
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> no debian package as of yet I don't think
[04:12] <Jucato> oh, it's no longer called Xara LX. it's Xara Xtreme for Linux
[04:13] <alex_> I downloaded some themes from kde-look.org
[04:13] <Jucato> seems like there's a .tar.gz download and an Autopackage installer
[04:13] <linuxkid2> is it a cooking with linux five step? or some kind of binary package or AutoPackage?
[04:13] <edgarin> Hi to all
[04:13] <alex_> the files have the .deb extension
[04:13] <alex_> how do I install them?
[04:13] <Zaphar_ps> Jucato: use the autopackage one it's easier
[04:13] <linuxkid2> oh, there's my answer
[04:13] <Jucato> alex_: this link is for you
[04:14] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:14] <linuxkid2> deb files? right click and install.
[04:14] <alex_> Jucato: thx
[04:14] <intelikey> ok.  i think i actually need help here to salvage this install.   can anyone walk me through a rebuild of dpkg ?
[04:14] <intelikey> package manager is fubar
[04:14] <intelikey> ?
[04:15] <Zaphar_ps> oooh that ones beyond me
[04:16] <intelikey> i've tried apt-get install -f     dpkg --configure -a    aptitude    everything errors out with  "there were too many errors to count"
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: Huh Can't you just compile the OSS on windows?
[04:17] <Zaphar_ps> I once fixed a fubared db by spending an hour in aptitude fixing broken packages
[04:17] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: sure if you want I guess
[04:18] <gnomefreak> intelikey: what errors (give 2 or 3) and what ubuntu version
[04:18] <linuxkid2> bye bye
[04:18] <Jucato> hi claydoh!
[04:18] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: oh wait no there is no windows source to compile you might be able to get it to compile on cygwin but I don't know.
[04:20] <draik> Hawkwind: Here is the 4-way monitors supported for Linux... http://www.matrox.com/mga/corp/financial/products/qidlp.cfm
[04:20] <Jucato> draik: hmm.....
[04:20] <intelikey> dapper  1.dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):   2.subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1    and on and on and on....
[04:21] <intelikey> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libpam0g:
[04:21] <intelikey> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libselinux1:
[04:21] <intelikey>  libselinux1 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1); however:
[04:21] <intelikey>   Package libc6 is not configured yet.
[04:21] <Jucato> intelikey: pastebin?
[04:22] <alex_> Jucato: unfortunately it doesn't answer any questions on .deb packages
[04:22] <Jucato> or you don't have X?
[04:22] <alex_> Jucato: also, I cannot find the program kdmtheme
[04:22] <intelikey> Jucato hehe i wish.   i'm cnrooted in right now cause it wont even boot
[04:22] <intelikey> chrooted that is.
[04:23] <Hawkwind> draik: Heh, that's pretty kewl, but a bit too expensive for me
[04:23] <Jucato> alex_: well, you basically just have to install that .deb file. it's probably a widget Style
[04:23] <alex_> Jucato: question is, how do I install it?
[04:23] <intelikey> gnomefreak  ?
[04:23] <draik> I would get it and I know that I would not see the world for quite a while... aside from the size
[04:23] <Ballistik> Anyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you have errors?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> oh nm
[04:23] <claydoh> hi Jucato
[04:24] <gnomefreak> i see them and ar eyou on dapper or edgy?
[04:24] <Jucato> alex_: either right-click on it in Konqueror and choose "Kubuntu Package Menu > Install Package" or in the command line "sudo dpkg -i <.deb file name>"
[04:24] <intelikey> i answered that too    dapper
[04:24] <alex_> Jucato: greatly appreciated, I will try that now
[04:25] <intelikey> gnomefreak 606
[04:25] <gnomefreak> intelikey: sudo dpkg --configure libc6 let me know what it does
[04:26] <gnomefreak> intelikey: libc6 needs to be configured before anything else
[04:26] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):
[04:26] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:26] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[04:26] <Ballistik> Anyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> intelikey: thats the wrong version of libc6 for dapper
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Ballistik: No need to repeat yourself
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Ballistik: You can however search on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <gnomefreak> 2.3.6-0ubuntu20  is dappers libc6
[04:27] <intelikey> it came from the repos
[04:27] <nalioth> Ballistik: apt-cache search n64
[04:27] <intelikey> it is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[04:27] <secleinteer> does any1 know where i can enter a command that i want to run on every login?
[04:27] <Zaphar_ps> Sweet the Xara bitmap tracer is pretty nice
[04:28] <intelikey> gnomefreak tty1 [root@/]  dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb
[04:28] <intelikey> Setting up libc6 (2.3.6-0ubuntu20) ...
[04:28] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing libc6 (--install):
[04:28] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:28] <gnomefreak> intelikey: is dapper fully installed? or did the install stop?
[04:28] <intelikey> been working for months
[04:29] <gnomefreak> and did this start by an update?
[04:29] <intelikey> yup
[04:29] <intelikey> first update.  and it wanted to update over 100 packages
[04:29] <gnomefreak> intelikey: was libc6 part of that update?
[04:30] <intelikey> so i let it.   yep
[04:30] <gnomefreak> im almost thinking of force the configure (but i never said that) and im not asking you to do it
[04:30] <intelikey> tried that  it wont work
[04:30] <gnomefreak> intelikey: ok you only have tty?
[04:31] <intelikey> --force-all     yes consoel
[04:31] <intelikey> le
[04:31] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you tried sudo dpkg -i --force-all path yougave me
[04:31] <intelikey> yep
[04:31] <intelikey> still errors our
[04:31] <intelikey> i tried every thing i could think of.
[04:32] <intelikey> all the same.
[04:33] <intelikey> someone drop me the url for a known working package of  "libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb"    let me ld and try that.
[04:33] <intelikey> it could be a broken dl or something
[04:34] <intelikey> or later if there is a later version
[04:34] <intelikey> anyone someone ?
[04:35] <Jucato> claydoh: hey you're right about the dcoprss package being needed for KNewsTicker (not KNode) to show up in Kontact's Summary View
[04:36] <claydoh> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <profoXP> hey I installed kubuntu-desktop right -- I used gtk-qt engine -- and now my GNOME theme is messed up and I can't change it -- it crashes on every gtk app
[04:36] <profoXP> how do I disable it..
[04:36] <intelikey> claydoh you know that one to be good ?   and i need the full url  i'm very limited on what can run right now
[04:37] <Jucato> profoXP: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts ??
[04:37] <profoXP> Jucato: yea and then what.. where's the option to disable it :P
[04:37] <claydoh> dunno, jut the place to search for official debs
[04:38] <Jucato> profoXP: set it the style to use one of GNOME's themes/styles
[04:38] <Jucato> like Human
[04:38] <claydoh> I am on crap dialuop and the pages take too long to load
[04:38] <intelikey> searching is out of the question.    and installing a text based browser is hehhe  kinda the point.   dpkg is hosed
[04:38] <claydoh> so I stopped trying the search
[04:38] <gnomefreak> intelikey: try sudo apt-get remove libc6
[04:38] <bimberi> intelikey: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb
[04:38] <gnomefreak> intelikey: and than install it over again or go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it
[04:38] <intelikey> gnomefreak did that it hangs the system
[04:39] <intelikey> bimberi ty wgetting
[04:39] <gnomefreak> intelikey: the removal or the installing hung system?
[04:40] <intelikey> gnomefreak when you remove libc nothing works.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> dont quote me on this but im thinking dpkg isnt gonna configure the one you are grabbing with the one still in dpkg
[04:41] <intelikey> the new package had already over written the /lib/libc* and the forced removal of it renders the system shell less and app less.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> sob
[04:42] <intelikey> i might be able to use something like mc and execute that it might keep the data in ram while it's still running making it possable to install the new.     if mc is installed
[04:43] <intelikey> eeek skratch that
[04:43] <gnomefreak> intelikey: i am not seeing a safe way around it
[04:43] <gnomefreak> them: can you please stop changing nicks so often
[04:44] <intelikey> this is looking more and more like the only hope is a full reload.
[04:44] <Stuart_> hey people... im running an amd64 kubuntu and i am trying to install Eternal Lands
[04:44] <them> whoopsy
[04:44] <gnomefreak> intelikey: libc6 is a main lib and thats what scares me about this
[04:44] <Stuart_> I am having some trouble with missing libs from lib32
[04:44] <Stuart_> like libopenal.so.0
[04:44] <them> so indecisive... forgot it still shows on the other channels
[04:45] <intelikey> yep it's a system hoser
[04:45] <Stuart_> can i install this libs without using debootstrap ?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: more than likely install yes run no
[04:45] <actinic> is this the windows xp forum?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: lib32 is for 32bit you can run them in chroot but thats all i know of
[04:45] <actinic> :)
[04:45] <gnomefreak> actinic: nope try #3windows
[04:46] <gnomefreak> -3
[04:46] <Stuart_> there are some ia32-libs into adept...
[04:46] <Jucato> lol
[04:46] <intelikey> as soon as this dl is finished i'll diff the two packages....
[04:46] <Stuart_> they help me a lot
[04:46] <actinic> lol
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: yes you can install them but you cant use them without a chroot if im not mistaken
[04:47] <Stuart_> i am running wine just with them
[04:48] <Jucato> wb claydoh! I bet you can't wait to get a that DSL connection ^_^
[04:49] <josh__> does this version of ubuntu have a easysources webpage also?
[04:49] <josh__> !easysources
[04:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:49] <josh__> woot woot
[04:50] <claydoh> no, I just *love* waiting minutes and minutes for images to load :(
[04:50] <Jucato> claydoh: when's it coming btw?
[04:50] <josh__> get cable ;P
[04:51] <profoXP> Jucato: apparantly that doesnt work -- hold on bbl
[04:51] <claydoh> soon, a week or 2
[04:51] <claydoh> cable, bah!
[04:51] <claydoh> I have sat tv, why get cable?
[04:52] <Jucato> lol
[04:52] <josh__> cuz of the cable internet
[04:52] <Jucato> that's why he's getting DSL... @_@
[04:52] <josh__> dsl sucks
[04:53] <intelikey> looks like a hopeless case.   that's another strike against dpkg    i realize anything has it's limits, but this is rediculess
[04:53] <unix_infidel>  does anyone know if religious institutions get special deals with electronics companies or whether they are tax exempt?
[04:53] <actinic> my dsl:  1.5 down/800 up
[04:53] <josh__> are u cgoing to start a church for free software?
[04:53] <josh__> my cable 6 meg down 2 meg up
[04:54] <intelikey> they diff the same looks like "if it's a bad package" i got the same one both times.
[04:54] <actinic> ... for $21/month
[04:54] <josh__> course its costs 120 a month... but its worth it :)
[04:55] <claydoh> my last dsl was 5/2
[04:55] <josh__> brb, gotta update my sources.list
[04:55] <gregr> #ubuntu
[04:55] <claydoh> but I must pinch pennies and go with 1 mb
[04:55] <intelikey> josh__ nothing highspeed but satilite here.   but dialup is cheep $7./month
[04:55] <DaSkreech> We can get 1MB for about 600 dollars
[04:56] <actinic> wow, $120/mth for cable ... mucho expensivo
[04:56] <actinic> i don't care what the up/dl speed is
[04:57] <Jucato> we're gonna get scolded again for going off-topic... lol
[04:58] <actinic> getting back on topic <cough> nice blog on installing rpm's using alien: https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[04:58] <intelikey> yeah 1t up/down wouldnt help slow hardware
[04:58] <intelikey> !offtopic
[04:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:58] <actinic> !windows
[04:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:58] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[04:58] <claydoh> !dsl
[04:58] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:58] <claydoh> there
[04:58] <claydoh> !dialup
[04:58] <Jucato> lol
[04:58] <actinic> lol
[04:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:59] <actinic> !cable
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <actinic> oops
[04:59] <Jucato> hahahaha
[04:59] <claydoh> lol!!!
[04:59] <claydoh> thee you go
[04:59] <actinic> guess cable sucks
[04:59] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:59] <actinic> :)
[04:59] <Jucato> grr... need to grab something to eat... brb
[05:00] <josh__> lol
[05:00] <josh__> thats because its so easy you dont need a manul
[05:00] <josh__> :P
[05:00] <josh__> you click firefox and up it goes
[05:00] <josh__> lol
[05:02] <josh__> ok im out guys (gotta set this new server up)
[05:02] <josh__> cya later
[05:02] <actinic> hey, any u guys read tux magazine?
[05:04] <Jucato> me... but I have read only up to issue 3
[05:04] <Jucato> but I have the latest (I think)
[05:05] <intelikey> i see one error in the libc6 post install script it's bash and not sh   who the hell keeps doing that !
[05:05] <Nerevar> i can't get kubuntu to start
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Nerevar: Some more info?
[05:06] <Nerevar> i put the live cd, boot up, and it hangs at mounting drive
[05:06] <actinic> Jucato, i've got all the magazines indexed.  bottom of 1st post: http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php/topic,1714.0.html
[05:06] <Nerevar> then, after i wait about 4 minutes or 6 minutes, it says the drive is confused and spams it over and over again infinitely
[05:06] <actinic> plus u can dl them from my ftp server
[05:06] <Jucato> actinic: I have them all but haven't read them all :-D
[05:06] <Jucato> come January, our free subscription ends...
[05:06] <intelikey> and i can't fix the script cause it over writes it each time it tries to run it   i chattr -i 'd it and it errors out on cant over write.....
[05:06] <intelikey> peace of krap.
[05:07] <Jucato> ...
[05:07] <actinic> Jucato  yep, fortunately $9 a yr isn't bad
[05:07] <Jucato> actinic: unfortunately, I don't know of a way I could send in the payment...
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[05:07] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:08] <Jucato> !frostwire
[05:08] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:08] <actinic> Jucato, why?  diff country?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> I keep thionking 'frostfire'
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:08] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:08] <Nerevar> so i'm at a loss what to do
[05:08] <Nerevar> the live cd wont start
[05:08] <Jucato> actinic: yep. philippines. now PayPal for us... (and my mom won't let me use her debit card)
[05:09] <actinic> gotcha
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Nerevar,   could try some other live cd's see if its affecting all of them
[05:09] <actinic> Nerevar, u sure the disk isn't corrupted?
[05:09] <Nerevar> doubt it, burned it with an expensive burner
[05:10] <DaSkreech> haha :)
[05:10] <DaSkreech> LIke expensive cars don't crash
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:10] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:10] <DaSkreech> When it starts it should give you the option to do a CD test
[05:10] <actinic> burner doesn't necessarily matter, the media might
[05:10] <DaSkreech>  might be worth the time to run it
[05:10] <Nerevar> the media is shit, i admit
[05:10] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: If you're going to install Java, don't use Adept (but I doubt you use that anyway...)
[05:10] <actinic> i've seen plextors that couldn't burn squat due to major media suckage
[05:11] <Nerevar> i will try one more time
[05:11] <actinic> try burning at a lower speed
[05:11] <intelikey> i think i did something....
[05:11] <Nerevar> ok
[05:11] <actinic> also md5sum the iso to make sure the file isn't corrupt
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  i couldent rember the url to the    sudo update-alternatives --config java   command i needed. :P
[05:11] <Jucato> a combination of the ISO (md5sum), media (CD-R/RW), the device (burner), and the burning itself affects the output of a LiveCD
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> which fixed the problem. :)
[05:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: aaah ^)_^
[05:13] <intelikey> this may be the fix to the hangup.    it's not the ubuntu way, i know.   but i think it worked.   "apt-get -f remove & until never ;do rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst ;done  "
[05:13] <fyyrest0rm> hi guys..is xinerama necessary with kubuntu/kde?
[05:14] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: I think only if you're using multiple monitors?
[05:14] <fyyrest0rm> trying to get WoW to work a bit better, been reading that xinerama may be causing some of the performance problem..just wondering if getting rid of it will bork anything
[05:14] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: nope..one monitor
[05:14] <Jucato> it's not a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, that's for sure
[05:15] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: which means uninstalling it will bork x then?
[05:15] <Jucato> no. I said it was NOT a dependency. meaning kubuntu is not dependent on it. that's as far as I know
[05:15] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i'm sorry..read it wrong lol
[05:16] <fyyrest0rm> anyone know of a way to turn it off without uninstalling it?
[05:18] <intelikey> well i'm past one hurtle.  but not out of the woods.
[05:19] <intelikey> it'd be quicker to reload.
[05:19] <intelikey> somebody tell me to reload.
[05:20] <fyyrest0rm> reload :)
[05:20] <Nerevar> ok... burned at 16x
[05:20] <Nerevar> if this doesnt work im done for tonight
[05:20] <Jucato> Nerevar: that's the slowest speed that you can burn?
[05:21] <Nerevar> there was 8x, but im impatient
[05:21] <Nerevar> anyways, here goes
[05:21] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:22] <ryan_> im having problems editing my sources.list ....i keep gitting the error "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list."
[05:22] <actinic> hmm, 'why I don't like kubuntu': http://www.superquest.net/blogs/
[05:23] <Jucato> ryan_: you need to have administrator priviliges to edit that file
[05:23] <Jucato> !sudo
[05:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <DaSkreech> dang anyone have a place I can toss a pic ?
[05:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: photobucket? imageshack?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:25] <Jucato> actinic: I guess he never read about "sudo -i"
[05:25] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21611
[05:25] <DaSkreech> That works :)
[05:26] <Jucato> actinic: I also wonder if he had the "show icons on desktop" disabled
[05:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: lol! I didn't know pastebin could do images ehehe
[05:26] <actinic> Jucato, he could of been on drugs too
[05:27] <Drako60> anyone here know of any programs with Dapper and via chipset on AM2 MB with AMD64 X2 not allowing UDMA?
[05:28] <Jucato> actinic: I soooo want to leave a comment
[05:28] <tulga> I'm compiling 2.6.17 kernel. where is devfs option?
[05:28] <actinic> lol
[05:28] <Nerevar> it says: hdh: the drive appears confused. 0x01 infinitely.
[05:28] <Nerevar> reason 0x01.
[05:28] <Nerevar> at "mounting drive" step.
[05:29] <Nerevar> my theory is, it has something to do with the old mandrake install i have on the drive.
[05:31] <wolfmanz> what would cause the ATI driver to not work after being installed?
[05:33] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[05:34] <Nerevar> looks like multiple ppl are complaining about my problem
[05:35] <Jucato> actinic: although I agree with one thing, about how (relatively) difficult it is to put a Trash icon on the desktop...
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !audacity
[05:35] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[05:39] <Nerevar> so ..
[05:40] <jacob> I have a desktop with a Broadcom wireless card that Kubuntu doesn't recognize, so i found this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 .  It mentions using a CD as a repo to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool, so how might I do that? (I don't have wired internet access on that machine)
[05:40] <Nerevar> no advice i guess
[05:41] <actinic> Jucato, sudo -i for root shell access?  I don't seem to have a man for it ... I think.
[05:42] <Jucato> actinic: from the sudo man page: The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[05:42] <Snake> I just deleted my whole home dir, is it possible to recover
[05:42] <Kr4t05> anyone have a clue as to restoring a /home/ dir in the event of accidental deletion?
[05:42] <Kr4t05> AKA rm -rf?
[05:42] <Jucato> Snake: if you deleted from Konqueror, yes?
[05:42] <actinic> Jucato, whats the command synatx to get the man page?
[05:42] <Snake> Jucato: rm -r
[05:42] <actinic> err sytax
[05:43] <Jucato> oooh...
[05:43] <Jucato> T_T
[05:43] <actinic> syntax
[05:43] <actinic> lol
[05:43] <ryan_> how to i get write access to a file
[05:43] <Snake> Jucato: ill say its not possible?
[05:44] <Jucato> I don't know if there's "undel" in BASH...
[05:44] <Jucato> but AFAIK, it's gone...
[05:44] <draik> actinic, 'man (app)'
[05:44] <Snake> thats what I figured
[05:44] <Snake> damn it
[05:44] <Kr4t05> Snake: :/
[05:44] <actinic> draik, thanks
[05:44] <draik> actinic, np. Glad I could help
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: you could always re-create your user.
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: what do you mean?
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: granted, you wouldn't be able to restore your lost data, but it would be suitable.
[05:45] <draik> ryan_, 'chmod 700 filename'
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: that wont bring back the lost data
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: I can just make a new home dir lol
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: Add a new user with sudo rights.
[05:45] <actinic> one of these days we're going to need a SUDO lesson :)
[05:45] <Jucato> draik: I think he was trying to write to sources.list?
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: Linux automatically rebuilds the default settings
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: so that no biggy to me
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: If you just mkdir /home/snake it won't accept it as your home dir
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: IIRC
[05:46] <Snake> Kr4t05: regardless, when I restart all the defaults will be restored
[05:46] <Jucato> except for the data...
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: You won't have a home dir, though.
[05:47] <Snake> Kr4t05: yess I will
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: Maybe you will...
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: I dunno. :/
[05:47] <Snake> Kr4t05: its gotta put the /. configs somewhere
[05:47] <Snake> ;)
[05:47] <Nerevar> wow.. there are 8 pages of people having the same problem as me in the forum
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: ok, do it.
[05:47] <Snake> ill get to it later
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Nerevar: What would that be?
[05:47] <Snake> right now I want to memorize as many settings as I can
[05:47] <Jucato> do it now! lol
[05:47] <Snake> so I can set them back
[05:47] <Snake> lol
[05:49] <jacob> Can I put a package on a CD to install it on a machine w/o internet access?
[05:49] <Nerevar> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187318&page=5
[05:49] <Nerevar> i am reading this trainwreck to see if anyone posted a fix
[05:50] <Nerevar> it seems everyone disabled legacy USB in their bios. i dont know what that will do, im a little hesitant
[05:51] <etzerd> hello ubuntu people
[05:51] <etzerd> ?
[05:52] <etzerd> I have Microsoft Office 2003
[05:52] <etzerd> everytime I start the installation from ubuntu using wine at the end of the installation it's failed, any Idea why?
[05:52] <Healot> Nerevar: legacy USB mode is to support USB keyboard and mouse in DOS real mode, since Linux kernel has native USB drivers, there is no need to enable it
[05:53] <Healot> etzerd: : read WINE compatibility list
[05:57] <TehKewl1> how do you get gcc to work properly?
[05:59] <draik> etzerd, ubuntu doesn't like "#2" being installed on it
 'chmod 700 filename' did not work i got the error "
[05:59] <ryan_> ryan@server:/etc$ chmod 700 fstab
[05:59] <ryan_> chmod: changing permissions of `fstab': Operation not permitted
[05:59] <nalioth> ryan_: oooh don't do that
[05:59] <ryan_> sorry....nob
[06:00] <draik> I thought this was just a regular file
[06:00] <nalioth> ryan_: if it isn't in your /home directory DO NOT MESS with it
[06:00] <ryan_> in trying to mount a ntfs drive
[06:00] <draik> general rule of thumb, I'd say
[06:00] <nalioth> sorry for the caps, but only your home directory contents should be messed with
[06:00] <jacob> ryan_: then do sudo -i
[06:00] <intelikey> yuch is there no easy to change the background from white to something viewable in gaim ?
[06:00] <jacob> but dont change the permissions of the drive
[06:01] <wolfmanz> What would cause the ATI driver not to work?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ryan_,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   is the definitive guide on that topic. :)
[06:01] <ryan_> alright ....ill see if i can get it to work
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> well worth bookmarking and reading a few times. :)
[06:02] <intelikey> gaim. like everything else ubuntu default; looks like crap.
[06:02] <Nerevar> ok well i give up with this
[06:02] <Kronos> intelikey: KDE! :)
[06:02] <Nerevar> maybe i'll try it next year.. gonna try pclinuxos.. later
[06:02] <draik> tired Dr_Willis?
[06:02] <intelikey> no the only live cd i have is venella ubuntu
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> my system wont even boot if i ENABLE legacy usb support.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:03] <Kronos> Well, I'm going to bed while StepMania compiles.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> but nerevar just left. :)
[06:04] <thompa> join #ubuntu
[06:04] <draik> lol
[06:04] <intelikey> and you cant move windows over the pannels...  peace of junk.
[06:04] <draik> thompa, /joing
[06:04] <thompa> sry
[06:04] <draik> */join
[06:04] <thompa> already there
[06:05] <thompa> has anyone tried kubuntu in edgy yet
[06:05] <thompa> im running kde apps in ubuntu edgy
[06:06] <thompa> i still need konqueror for some reason
[06:07] <thompa> does realplayer work in kubuntu64?
[06:07] <thompa> !realplayer
[06:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <thompa> i know it sucks
[06:09] <intelikey> and if you close the "buddy" list window gaim crashes.    i know now why i never tried this dung heap before.
[06:11] <shane_> I am looking for a game similar to Cube for linux any suggestions?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Whats Cube?
[06:11] <draik> I think it's got squares and boxes and such
[06:12] <shane_> Cube is just a FPS single player or online multiplayer
[06:13] <shane_> looks and plays nice
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Umm Dang it hold on
[06:13] <wolfmanz> do you have to reinstall graphic drivers in this case ATI if you switch to another kernal as in going from the 386 kernal to the k7?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> I know of this one that I used to play
[06:14] <thompa> wokfwanz: i know when i switched I reinstalled
[06:14] <Lamington> hello
[06:14] <draik> counter strike?
[06:14] <Lamington> I have a problem with kmail
[06:14] <thompa> that was cause of a nvidia-64 driver though
[06:15] <Lamington> I'm receiving emails but emails I send dont arrive at their destinations
[06:15] <thompa> wokfwanz: if it doesnt work just reinstall the driver
[06:15] <thompa> i tried k7 kernel but get better results on amd64
[06:16] <wolfmanz> thompa: thats just it i just installed the driver with easyubuntu and the ati driver isnt working i'm seeing that messa driver as the default
[06:16] <thompa> easyubuntu ,,eh
[06:16] <Lamington> Is anyone here using kmail ?
[06:17] <wolfmanz> thompa: ya it worked fine a few days ago but tonight after doing a fresh install the ati driover is not working for some reason
[06:19] <thompa> wokfwanz: did you edit the xorg.conf
[06:19] <wolfmanz> thompa:  ya thats set the way it should be
[06:20] <r3sil3> So I have a question if any one can help?
[06:20] <Healot> !ask
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <r3sil3> Ok thanks
[06:20] <r3sil3> Ok here's the problem
[06:20] <r3sil3> i just installed Kubuntu
[06:20] <draik> Welcome to Kubuntu r3sil3
[06:20] <thompa> wokfwanz: does xorg.conf have what for driver "driver"?
[06:20] <r3sil3> mounted my NTFS drives, all fine, but when I go to play them, it just skips through them like they aren't found
[06:21] <draik> skips through what?
[06:21] <wolfmanz> thompa: it has fglrx
[06:21] <r3sil3> the playlist
[06:21] <r3sil3> like it isn't finding the songs
[06:21] <draik> I can't say I've had that issue cuz I pulled my fav's from my NTFS HDD and saved them in a folder
[06:21] <draik> try doing that
[06:22] <draik> create a folder on your desktop and then save your fav's
[06:22] <r3sil3> Ok, let me switch to Kubuntu
[06:22] <r3sil3> alright
[06:22] <r3sil3> brb
[06:22] <r3sil3> ill get on here on kubuntu
[06:22] <NDPowerBook> http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/transformers-video/
[06:22] <starz> how do i gain root access
[06:22] <thompa> wokfwanz: i dont know, you said mesa also
[06:22] <Healot> r3sil3: : follow the next factoid links
[06:22] <Healot> !mp3
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <wolfmanz> thompa: messa is what is showing up when i type in fglrxinfo
[06:23] <thompa> is that default screen
[06:23] <wolfmanz> thompa: thats the default 3d driver
[06:23] <thompa> right
[06:24] <thompa> i dont know about easyubuntu
[06:24] <thompa> just remove it
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> !sudo > starz
[06:25] <thompa> 2.6.17-6-amd64-generic
[06:29] <thompa> !easyubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:31] <pierreth> is possible to set konqueror in kubuntu like it is in other distribution?
[06:31] <r3sil3> ok im back
[06:31] <r3sil3> i am copying all of my music to the desktop
[06:31] <r3sil3> or a folder on the desktop i should say
[06:32] <r3sil3> i love kubuntu, just.............new to linux
[06:32] <r3sil3> im a PC tech and I need to learn linux for myself and my job
[06:32] <thompa> its great , ubuntu is nice too
[06:32] <r3sil3> i wanted to start out with something more graphical
[06:32] <r3sil3> then learn coding and what not, then jump into that
[06:33] <thompa> are the windows suppossed to creak in gnome
[06:38] <starz> once i mount my ntfs drive i get the gernic error "Could not enter folder /media/Hard Disks/Toshiba 100GB"
[06:38] <starz> any idea
[06:39] <draik> thompa, update gnome... it's getting old :p
[06:40] <r3sil3> draik
[06:40] <r3sil3> im not registered
[06:40] <r3sil3> so no PM's for me
[06:40] <draik> ok
[06:40] <draik> np
[06:40] <r3sil3> so
[06:41] <r3sil3> i copied everything to the desktop
[06:41] <draik> and?
[06:41] <r3sil3> or the kubuntu disk
[06:41] <draik> working for you?
[06:41] <r3sil3> and still the same thing
[06:41] <draik> what are you using to listen to them?
[06:41] <r3sil3> kaffiene
[06:41] <r3sil3> and the other one
[06:41] <r3sil3> amerok
[06:41] <draik> mp3?
[06:41] <r3sil3> my sound works
[06:41] <r3sil3> yes
[06:41] <r3sil3> MP3
[06:41] <r3sil3> Isnt there something I have to do to get them to work?
[06:41] <r3sil3> IIRC
[06:41] <draik> w32codec
[06:41] <r3sil3> where do i get it
[06:41] <draik> !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <r3sil3> Thanks!
[06:42] <r3sil3> So i have to install W32codecs?
[06:42] <draik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[06:42] <draik> yup
[06:43] <draik> click on that link and it will take you straight to what you need
[06:43] <r3sil3> so
[06:43] <r3sil3> i have to go into terminal
[06:43] <r3sil3> and type
[06:43] <r3sil3> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:43] <r3sil3> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:43] <r3sil3> taht?
[06:44] <draik> yup
[06:44] <imbrandon_> yes
[06:44] <draik> in a terminal
[06:44] <r3sil3> k downloading now
[06:44] <r3sil3> will it isntall itself?
[06:44] <draik> you might also want to get yakuake
[06:44] <r3sil3> im VERY new to this
[06:44] <draik> yes
[06:44] <r3sil3> if you couldn't tell
[06:44] <draik> we're here to help as long as you're willing to learn
[06:44] <r3sil3> tahts why im usign it :)
[06:44] <draik> :)
[06:45] <r3sil3> that and im sick of the monopoly of shit they call microsoft :)
[06:45] <r3sil3> ok
[06:45] <r3sil3> its still doign the same thing
[06:45] <soulrider> hi
[06:46] <draik> hello
[06:46] <r3sil3> hi sould
[06:46] <r3sil3> soul
[06:46] <pierreth> hi
[06:46] <r3sil3> hey draik
[06:46] <r3sil3> still same thing bro
[06:46] <draik> try xmms
[06:47] <r3sil3> ok
[06:47] <r3sil3> !xmms
[06:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:47] <draik> K Menu > Multimedia > XMMS
[06:47] <draik> it's already installed
[06:47] <r3sil3> I dont see it under multimedia
[06:47] <draik> Kubuntu 6.06?
[06:47] <draik> right?
[06:47] <r3sil3> newest one off the web
[06:49] <draik> open terminal
[06:49] <r3sil3> k
[06:49] <r3sil3> open
[06:50] <r3sil3> so i just tested an OGG, it works
[06:50] <draik> let me get you what you need to install the xmms player
[06:50] <r3sil3> ok thanks
[06:50] <draik> type...
[06:50] <draik> sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:51] <r3sil3> ok its doing its thing
[06:51] <r3sil3> k done
[06:51] <r3sil3> where will it be
[06:51] <draik> K Menu > Multimedia > XMMS
[06:51] <r3sil3> still not there.
[06:51] <r3sil3> wtf
[06:52] <r3sil3> i "could" open audacity and try to turn one into an OGG and see if it works
[06:53] <draik> try it
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> We dare you!
[06:54] <r3sil3> lol
[06:54] <imbrandon_> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:54] <imbrandon_> is what you want
[06:55] <Healot> what you need
[06:55] <r3sil3> which version do I have to download to get it to install to linux
[06:56] <r3sil3> .tar.gz?
[06:56] <imbrandon_> you dont unless yo are confrotable compiling, otherwise you get the deb from apt-get
[06:57] <imbrandon_> apt-get install <package name>
[06:57] <r3sil3> so whats taht command?
[06:57] <r3sil3> ah
[06:57] <r3sil3> thanks
[06:57] <Healot> !apt
[06:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <imbrandon_> or use adept
[06:57] <hupp3l> hi, i messed up bad but I think it is fixable
[06:58] <r3sil3> pt-get install audacity
[06:58] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[06:58] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:58] <r3sil3> E: Couldn't find package audacity
[06:58] <hupp3l> I wanted to run kubuntu through my projecter
[06:58] <Healot> !repos
[06:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:58] <hupp3l> and I went into the settings and as my screen I chose something else than the default
[06:59] <imbrandon_> r3sil3: its in universe
[06:59] <hupp3l> now kubuntu starts up, it loads and then it just shows the logo and freezes up
[06:59] <hupp3l> when I press the power button it shuts down like it would normally
[06:59] <hupp3l> ie. the xserver wont start right
[06:59] <jacob> Hey, how can I download a deb file so I can install in on another computer?
[07:00] <Jucato> hupp3l: once you get to the point where it stops at the logo, press Ctrl+Alt+F1, then type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[07:00] <r3sil3> im so confused
[07:00] <Jucato> !audacity
[07:00] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[07:00] <hupp3l> ok i will try it Jucato
[07:00] <imbrandon_> r3sil3: you just need to enable universe
[07:00] <r3sil3> why does it have to be so hard to download stuff
[07:00] <r3sil3> how do i do that
[07:00] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:00] <imbrandon_> !repos
[07:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:02] <starz> ok in realy new to linux i just made the swich to kubuntu from windows xp ive never done anythign with linux untill now can anyone suggest a beginners site
[07:02] <Jucato> imbrandon_: thanks for making Amarok 1.4.2 available in Dapper ^_^
[07:02] <imbrandon_> Jucato: welcome ;)
[07:03] <imbrandon_> brb food time
[07:03] <Jucato> starz: you can view an off-line guide to Kubuntu (with a short intro to Linux) in K Menu > Help. Look for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[07:03] <starz> thanks
[07:03] <Browneh> starz: ubuntuforums.org :D
[07:03] <jacob> starz: the Kubuntu Desktop Guide also links to http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html , which is useful
[07:04] <hupp3l> what mouse should i choose Imps/2 or explorerps/2?
[07:04] <hupp3l> its an internal laptop mouse and sometime a usb mouse
[07:04] <Jucato> hupp3l: it usually highlights the default. usually...
[07:05] <Jucato> starz: the link jacob gave is also a good one. It's teaches you about Linux, regardless of what distribution you use.
[07:06] <Healot> hupp3l: : just choose imps/2
[07:07] <r3sil3> man this sucks
[07:07] <r3sil3> i turned universe and that bullshit on
[07:07] <r3sil3> i just want my music to work
[07:08] <hupp3l> Jucato it appears to work fine thank you soo much
[07:08] <Jucato> r3sil3: now that you got "multiverse" enabled (which is what I presumed you were referring to), you can look for "libxine-extracodecs" and install that, if all you wanted was to play MP3's
[07:09] <r3sil3> ok
[07:09] <r3sil3> let me try
[07:09] <r3sil3> pt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:09] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[07:09] <jacob> Is there a way I can put a package on a CD so I can use it as a repository on a machine without internet access?
[07:09] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:09] <r3sil3> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:09] <r3sil3> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:09] <r3sil3> is only available from another source
[07:09] <r3sil3> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[07:09] <r3sil3> i get that shit
[07:10] <Healot> !multiverse
[07:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:10] <Healot> read the following factoid
[07:11] <Jucato> r3sil3: I have a feeling that either multiverse wasn't enabled, or the wrong multiverse was enabled, or it wasn't enabled properly
[07:12] <Jucato> hmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?
[07:12] <jacob> Really, can I make a CD to use as a repo?  By putting deb files on it or something?  >_>
[07:13] <Jucato> jacob: I think you can.
[07:13] <r3sil3> same as in the picture they showed
[07:13] <jacob> How would I get the deb files?  Project pages usually just have the source files..
[07:14] <Jucato> r3sil3: did you click on Apply then Fetch Updates when you made the changes?
[07:15] <r3sil3> yes
[07:15] <r3sil3> and it worked
[07:16] <Jucato> r3sil3: "and it worked"... you mean now you can search "libxine-extracodecs"?
[07:16] <r3sil3> no, it fetched updates
[07:16] <r3sil3> then i did
[07:16] <r3sil3> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <r3sil3> and it didnt do anthing
[07:17] <r3sil3> so i search libxine
[07:17] <r3sil3> and it brings libxine-main1 and libxinerama1 up
[07:17] <r3sil3> both isntalled
[07:18] <Jucato> r3sil3: hm... can you check if this line is enabled (not grayed out) in Manage Repositories: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse" ?? where "xx" is for us. or uk. or au. etc
[07:18] <Healot> dapper repos, not dapper-backports
[07:19] <Healot> i think you enabled multiverse section the dapper-backports repos
[07:19] <r3sil3> im oiut for now
[07:19] <Healot> btw, paste bin your /etc/apt/sources.list and I'll tell you what went wrong
[07:19] <r3sil3> this is making me confused and i gotta be up in a while
[07:19] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <Jucato> r3sil3: ok then. you might have better luck when you're less confused
[07:25] <Jucato> hmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?
[07:38] <jacob> !deb
[07:38] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:39] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:41] <martinjh99> Anyone know if the latest Amarok is on the way??
[07:42] <Jucato> martinjh99: it already is
[07:42] <Jucato> !amarok
[07:42] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[07:42] <martinjh99> Ah - OK Was wondering if Riddell was packaging it as he usually does Amarok releases...
[07:42] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:43] <Jucato> martinjh99: it's from a Kubuntu dev also, so no biggie.
[07:43] <imbrandon> martinjh99: i do them now to take a bit of weight of Riddell ;)
[07:43] <imbrandon> i also uploaded the ppc ones earlier too
[07:44] <Jucato> eheheh, I guess people just got used to things coming from Jonathan :-D
[07:44] <imbrandon> if anyone ask Jucato
[07:44] <Jucato> lol
[07:44] <Jucato> imbrandon: btw, have I thanked you already? :-D
[07:44] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea me and hobbsee help him quite a bit this cycle ;)
[07:44] <imbrandon> Jucato: not sure but your welcome anyhow ;)
[07:44] <imbrandon> heh
[07:45] <imbrandon> kopete just hit dapper backports too
[07:45] <Jucato> backports is alive again?
[07:45] <imbrandon> yup as of yesterday
[07:45] <Jucato> whoa!
[07:45] <Jucato> kool
[07:45] <Jucato> hmm....
[07:45] <imbrandon> i'll blog about it later on the planet
[07:45] <imbrandon> and add a !backports
[07:46] <Jucato> heheh! I'll receive that post later on. (subscribed to the feed)
[07:46] <imbrandon> the reson some things will still get hosted by kubuntu.org/imbrandon.com though is cuz of libs like amarok
[07:46] <imbrandon> amarok wont ever get backported
[07:46] <jaffa_> guys where do you pakages normaly get installed to ?
[07:47] <verbose> jaffa_: that really depends on the package
[07:47] <imbrandon> jaffa_: depends on the package /usr most of the time
[07:47] <verbose> jaffa_: if i were you i'd `man hier`
[07:47] <Jucato> oh, so we'll have 2 places to get updates? backports and kubuntu.org/imbradon.com?
[07:47] <verbose> that has some good information about the file hierarchy of ubuntu
[07:47] <jaffa_> thank
[07:48] <imbrandon> Jucato: yes somethings will be in the offical dapper-backport , the stuff like kopete that dont need extra libs and the stuff that requires extra libs like amarok will go on mine or johnathans site
[07:48] <Jucato> oh
[07:48] <Jucato> imbrandon: is the new Kopete no longer dependent on XMMS?
[07:49] <imbrandon> like kopete and kbfx just got backported, and no its not
[07:49] <imbrandon> it will use it if its there but not dep on it
[07:49] <Jucato> kool. it has been dependent on it for quite a while...
[07:49] <imbrandon> yea that changed with 12.2
[07:50] <Jucato> awesome!
[07:50] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:50] <verbose> do visualizations work in amarok 1.4.2? is there a trick to them? i've apt-get install'd libvisual0.2-dev and libvisual0.2-plugins
[07:50] <imbrandon> dunno , never used it, i do everyting by hand, safer that way ;)
[07:51] <imbrandon> verbose: 1.4.2 ( from me and the official edgy ) both use libvisual-0.4
[07:51] <verbose> imbrandon: aah, thanks
[07:51] <Jucato> imbrandon: whoa! they should make an announcement that backports are alive again. I'm seeing KTorrent 2.0.1 there now (browsing through http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[07:51] <imbrandon> its in the repo and amarok deps on it so it should install
[07:51] <verbose> weird, it didn't come up in apt-cache search
[07:51] <imbrandon> Jucato: ohh yea i did ktorrent too forgot about that one
[07:51] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:52] <imbrandon> verbose: its called libvisual-0.4 not just libvisual ( so it can be instaled side by side )
[07:52] <Jucato> so many people have been having problems installing the KTorrent 2.0 .deb from the KTorrent site. this will be a great help
[07:53] <verbose> imbrandon: oh, hah, thanks
[07:53] <verbose> they don't interfere with each other?
[07:53] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache search libvisual-0.4
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-0 - Audio visualization framework
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-dev - Audio visualization framework (development package)
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-plugins - Audio visualization framework plugins
[07:53] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$
[07:53] <verbose> got it now
[07:53] <imbrandon> verbose: it will replace 0.2 smoothly, trust me i spent 24 hours littlerly makin sure it was a smooth transition
[07:54] <verbose> well i appreciate that greatly
[07:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:54] <Jucato> imbrandon ftw!!!
[07:54] <Jucato> imbrandon: did you say that Kopete is in backports already, or will be in backports?
[07:55] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea there will be a an announcement soonish , it has been sent to the ML , and like i said i'll stick it on planet soon
[07:55] <imbrandon> Jucato: it has been processed, might not be in the mirrors yet
[07:55] <imbrandon> it will be soon if not
[07:55] <verbose> imbrandon: in which repository is libvisual-0.4-plugins? i don't see that, but i see libvisual-0.4-0  and libvisual-0.4-dev
[07:55] <Jucato> i'm browsing through the main archive.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <imbrandon> verbose: i dident backport the plugins , i can if you would like
[07:56] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea its probably still building on the buildd's that one is new by just a few minutes
[07:56] <verbose> i'm not sure what that means :P
[07:56] <danish> is there like a cls command for KONSOLE
[07:56] <imbrandon> verbose: libvis 0.4 is comming from my repo ( becouse its not in dapper proper ) and i dident package the -plugins
[07:57] <danish> clr clear screen
[07:57] <verbose> danish: `clear`
[07:57] <imbrandon> danish: clear
[07:57] <danish> thnx
[07:57] <Jucato> kool! thanks for your efforts imbrandon and Hobbsee (she's not here yet?!?!)
[07:57] <imbrandon> verbose: i only packaged the bare minimum for amarok to work
[07:57] <verbose> imbrandon: aah, ok
[07:58] <imbrandon> yea hobbsee has a cold the last few days ;( heh
[07:58] <imbrandon> she might get on late
[07:58] <Jucato> hehe! she's been busy :-D
[07:58] <Jucato> imbrandon: would the latest deKorator make it into backports?
[07:58] <imbrandon> verbose: give me a few minutes to finish up the konversation nightly and i'll mess with the -plugins
[07:59] <verbose> imbrandon: no rush man, give yourself a break :P
[07:59] <Jucato> ooh... konversation and deKorator.. I'm looking forward to those
[07:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: i dunno i'll have to look at the depends, i'll put it on my todo list
[07:59] <verbose> i'm such a graphics whore these days since i installed Xgl/compiz
[07:59] <Jucato> lol
[07:59] <verbose> i'm forming bad habits
[07:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: konversation is alreaady in my repos i make a nightly build of it
[07:59] <Jucato> take it easy imbrandon. we don't want you and Hobbsee and everyone else getting sick at the same time :-D
[08:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:00] <imbrandon> Jucato: just modify the deb line you have for my repo to say "all" instead of "amarok" and you get all my goodies ;)
[08:00] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:00] <imbrandon> like konvo etc ;)
[08:01] <imbrandon> !info konversation dapper-imbrandon
[08:01] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component konversation\-nightly, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4+svn20060823 (dapper-imbrandon), package size 5714 kB, installed size 10539 kB
[08:01] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:01] <Jucato> hm... maybe I will.. later :-D
[08:02] <Jucato> hehe getting to know more Kubuntu devs... kool! :-D
[08:02] <imbrandon> actualy +svn20060824 is uploading , but the bot only updates every 6 hours
[08:02] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:03] <verbose> now if there were only any supermodels in here, you'd be set
[08:03] <imbrandon> ok dekorator and -plugins added to my todo ;)
[08:03] <Jucato> wow! thanks!!
[08:04] <imbrandon> btw you can always email me ( or other devs ) we dont bite imbrandon@kubuntu.org ;P
[08:04] <danish> how can i tell bash to move all directories except Examples and programming to programming directory in one single line
[08:04] <imbrandon> danish: mv {dir1,dir2} /new/place
[08:05] <verbose> or just `mv a b c d` moves a b and c into d
[08:05] <imbrandon> yea ;)
[08:05] <Jucato> the last argument is always the destination?
[08:05] <verbose> Jucato: yes
[08:05] <danish> i know but instead of type 20 directory names i want to do it with one swoop. testing power of linux
[08:05] <imbrandon> yes
[08:05] <Jucato> oh kool..
[08:05] <crimsun> be aware that {} is a bashism.
[08:06] <verbose> danish: mv * /blah
[08:06] <verbose> mv /blah/Examples .
[08:06] <Jucato> danish: why not test the power of Konqueror? :-D
[08:06] <verbose> that's the easiest way probably
[08:06] <imbrandon> danish: use a regex then but becarefull sounds like with Examples your doing it in your home dir and you dont want to more say .gnupg etc
[08:06] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:06] <danish> mv */blah !Examples & programming ./programming
[08:07] <verbose> danish: you need a scripting language
[08:07] <Jucato> dapper-backports is alive!! it's aliiiive!!!!!! ^_^
[08:07] <verbose> <psuedo code> read in dir names, if name isn't Examples and name isn't programming mv $name programming
[08:07] <danish> imbrandon: i am in my home directory
[08:07] <imbrandon> danish: rm Examples , then mv * /.programing , it will automaticly not move its self into its self ;)
[08:07] <danish> i am learning bash from linuxcommand.org
[08:07] <verbose> haha
[08:08] <Jucato> whoa!! new tabs in KTorrent....
[08:08] <verbose> danish: that sounds like a job for something that starts with p(perl, php, or _python_)
[08:09] <imbrandon> ok i'm off for a bit to finish some things up , ping me later if you need something
[08:09] <Jucato> or something that starts with #! /bin/bash
[08:09] <Jucato> thanks again imbrandon!
[08:09] <imbrandon> Jucato:  i would recomend though usign "all" for you or advanced users insrtead of "amarok"
[08:09] <danish> i was just trying to see if it was possilbe
[08:09] <verbose> Jucato: i'm not sure bash is the right tool for that job, but that's just me and my limited skills
[08:10] <imbrandon> verbose: bash is VERY powerfull if you take the time to learn it fully
[08:10] <verbose> imbrandon: python is too and takes a lot less time probably :P
[08:10] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:10] <verbose> you're right of course
[08:10] <verbose> and bash is on most systems where python might not be
[08:10] <verbose> so it's probably the smarter move
[08:11] <_rince_> sure most jobs are easier in python/perl, but it's a great help to know bash however
[08:11] <_rince_> verbose: ack
[08:11] <verbose> _rince_: it's a great help to know _everything_ but you have to prioritize
[08:11] <verbose> _rince_: rst
[08:12] <Jucato> it's a great help to know a "little" of everything (that you need)
[08:12] <_rince_> and believe it or not, some things (esp. file i/o) is easier with bash using pipes
[08:12] <verbose> and a greater help to know a lot of everything
[08:12] <verbose> _rince_: yeah, there are a lot of things that bash and awk and sed are great for
[08:12] <verbose> i'm not sure this is one of them though
[08:12] <Jucato> but knowing a lot more than a little of everything may not be possible :-D
[08:13] <_rince_> that's kind of philosophical, but understanding shell (not just bash) basiscs comes in handy very often
[08:13] <verbose> Jucato: knowing a little of everything might not be possible depending on your standards
[08:13] <verbose> _rince_: verily
[08:13] <_rince_> verily?
[08:13] <Jucato> yes... but in danish's case... ^_^
[08:13] <Jucato> verily = truly
[08:14] <verbose> wait, i'm confused...which is better in his case...bash? or something else
[08:14] <_rince_> i didn't read the beginning of the conversation ... isn't he trying to move a hand full of diretories in one step?
[08:14] <verbose> it would be easier for _me_ in python or php, but i'm not great at bash scripting
[08:14] <verbose> _rince_: he's trying to move all but 2
[08:14] <Jucato> an added problem would be if he's also trying to move hidden files as well
[08:15] <_rince_> then its bash imo
[08:15] <danish> i did it
[08:15] <verbose> oh, and we're assuming it's not allowed to move all and then just pick out the ones that he didn't want
[08:15] <verbose> Jucato: that's trivial
[08:16] <_rince_> for i in ...; [$i eq ] ; ...; done
[08:16] <verbose> _rince_: $i ne
[08:17] <verbose> well, it could work either way
[08:17] <verbose> more than 29038562935872305 ways to skin a cat of course
[08:17] <_rince_> verbose: this was just an example
[08:17] <verbose> yeah
[08:18] <Jucato> whoa! new icon for KTorrent...
[08:18] <danish> i did using this " mv * [!Ep] * programming
[08:19] <danish> it skipped the file with capitol E and small p and move everything else in programming
[08:19] <_rince_> and that was probably the most elegant way
[08:19] <verbose> very nice
[08:19] <danish> not bad for a noob
[08:19] <danish> thx all
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:20] <Jucato> not bad at all... in fact it's good :-D
[08:20] <intelikey> [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
[08:20] <danish> thx
[08:21] <imbrandon> intelikey: looks like its trying to run as root or a suidroot
[08:21] <intelikey> where is this "I/O permission"  ?
[08:22] <intelikey> imbrandon  you should kill your clone,     i can run it as root.
[08:22] <intelikey> trying to get it to run as user
[08:22] <imbrandon> i'm not gonna kill my clone its another client , and you need to fix the first error to fix the second one
[08:22] <Jucato> oh yeah, it was that clone with the "_" that I thanked earlier...
[08:22] <imbrandon> IE cant open display
[08:22] <danish> it gave me errors of not finding the directories after they were moved when i switched the wild card arguments so that exceptions applied first then moves it worked without error so thats an improvement
[08:23] <imbrandon_> this "clone" is my Laptop ;)
[08:23] <imbrandon_> isnt not a "clone"
[08:23] <intelikey> i know the first error is the second   they are one error.
[08:24] <Jucato> hmm... if it's not a clone.. it's a... um... .... ....
[08:24] <imbrandon> right, it cant open the display, fix that and your golden
[08:24] <intelikey> it bucks tab completion.  so if you don't want people using your nick then run two clients.
[08:24] <intelikey> yeah  like how the hell do you fix it ?>
[08:24] <Jucato> lol
[08:25] <imbrandon> intelikey: thats like asking you to change you name becoue 4 nicks start with "in"
[08:25] <imbrandon> plenty use my name all the time
[08:25] <imbrandon> kthx for you sugestion , please drive though
[08:25] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:25] <Jucato> lol
[08:25] <intelikey> if so just say the word,   im not hard to get along with.
[08:25] <word> eh?
[08:26] <imbrandon> ;) heh anyhow about your problem
[08:26] <Jucato> lol
[08:26] <imbrandon> it looks liek the user trying to run it dosent have permission to output to $DISPLAY
[08:26] <imbrandon> that normaly happens when you run something as root or try to run the wm as root
[08:27] <imbrandon> and the program as another user
[08:27] <intelikey> how can i change that ?    and what is $DISPLAY supposed to be ?
[08:27] <imbrandon> type "xhost +"
[08:27] <intelikey> i'm not in X
[08:27] <imbrandon> then try it
[08:27] <verbose> if you're not in X that could be a problem too :P
[08:27] <imbrandon> well thats the problem then
[08:27] <verbose> seeing as how your app is trying to connect to an X server
[08:27] <imbrandon> its trying to open an X display
[08:27] <intelikey> xhost +
[08:28] <intelikey> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[08:28] <imbrandon> xhost only helps if your running x
[08:28] <verbose> intelikey: that won't do anything if you're not running X
[08:28] <intelikey> it shouldn't be trying for X    it's svgalib
[08:28] <imbrandon> but thats your problem skins2 is trying to open an xdisplay and your not running x ;)
[08:29] <imbrandon> skins2 interface error: Cannot open display   <-- means it connot connect to the x server or x isnt running
[08:29] <imbrandon> cannot*
[08:29] <crimsun> imbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +''
[08:30] <Jucato> ???
[08:30] <crimsun> look at xauth(1x).
[08:30] <imbrandon> crimsun: if they have a firewall it /should/ be ok but your right , not a good idea normaly
[08:30] <crimsun> the relevant options are 'extract' and 'merge'
 imbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +'' <--- that's going to hurt.... ^_^
[08:31] <imbrandon> or better would be "xhost +localhost"
[08:32] <imbrandon> Jucato: its ment to ;) i was wrong in recomending it without telling the security precautions ;)
[08:32] <Jucato> oooh ... baaaad :-D
[08:32] <intelikey> again why would it matter if X isn't running.
[08:33] <imbrandon> it dosent
[08:33] <imbrandon> that was said once you said your not running X
[08:33] <Jucato> (good thing I know nothing about you guys are talking about)
 [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
[08:34] <imbrandon> Jucato: "xhost +" alone will let any client connect to the running x server
[08:34] <imbrandon> normaly BAD
[08:34] <Jucato> whoa... yeah that does sound bad
[08:34] <Jucato> *sigh* need lots to learn about Linux...
[08:34] <intelikey> Jucato trying to get vlc working in this console.   seems only root can use it.  for now.
[08:34] <Jucato> oh
[08:35] <verbose> intelikey: maybe you have to build vlc without X support
[08:35] <verbose> or maybe there's a switch to tell it to not use the gui
[08:36] <intelikey> ive just said it works for root
[08:36] <imbrandon> nah it looks like a svgalib permissions issue now that you say that but i dunno what
[08:36] <verbose> oh, forgot about that
[08:36] <intelikey> the switch is --vout
[08:36] <imbrandon> i konw mplayer works on console via vesa just fine, can vlc use vesa ?
[08:36] <danish> is there undo command in bash
[08:37] <imbrandon> danish: no
[08:37] <danish> imbrandon: how about undelete
[08:37] <intelikey> maybe
[08:37] <Jucato> danish: nope
[08:37] <Jucato> T_T
[08:37] <intelikey> danish depends on what you did
[08:37] <danish> intelikey for example i deleted a file or moved a directory
[08:37] <imbrandon> danish: undelete depends on the file system, proper fs like ext3 actualy DELETE the file unlike windows fs's ;)
[08:37] <imbrandon> so no
[08:37] <intelikey> with some fs   but not many
[08:38] <intelikey> danish deleted on ext3  forget it.  moved.  move it back
[08:38] <danish> thx good to know
[08:39] <intelikey> ext2 can undelete
[08:39] <intelikey> it's the journel that hangs ext3 out on that one
[08:39] <danish> what does ext stands for anyway just curious like ntfs is network file system
[08:40] <intelikey> extended
[08:40] <danish> oh i c thx
[08:40] <imbrandon> nfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:40] <intelikey> no ntfs is not network
[08:40] <danish> thats what i read in a book
[08:40] <Jucato[Away] > well, considering what NT means...
[08:41] <imbrandon> heh you might have mis read nfs as ntfs , they are totaly diffrent
[08:41] <danish> what is it
[08:41] <imbrandon> nfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:41] <imbrandon> nt == new technology ( from MS )
[08:41] <Jucato[Away] > hehe
[08:41] <intelikey> so write a book that corrects it.
[08:41] <danish> so its new technology file system
[08:41] <danish> l am gonna google it
[08:41] <Jucato[Away] > danish: yep
[08:42] <imbrandon> no ms droped the new tech after nt4 and nt is just nt now
[08:42] <imbrandon> not an abriv
[08:42] <Jucato[Away] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS
[08:42] <imbrandon> so ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:42] <danish> u guys stand corrected
[08:42] <Jucato[Away] > ??
[08:42] <danish> i checked out ntfs.com
[08:43] <verbose> is that site reputable?
[08:43] <imbrandon> says the same thing as wiki ? and .......
[08:43] <danish> what is WinFS stands for
[08:43] <imbrandon> i fail to see how that corected US
[08:43] <imbrandon> windows file system
[08:43] <verbose> imbrandon: if it's on the internet it's true
[08:43] <Jucato[Away] > ntfs.com says "NTFS - New Technology File System"
[08:43] <verbose> unless tv contradicts it
[08:43] <imbrandon> verbose: heh
[08:44] <verbose> tv > internet > #kubuntu > *
[08:44] <danish> Windws Storage Subsystem WinFS
[08:44] <intelikey> verbose lol
[08:44] <imbrandon> danish: and this is all relivent how ?
[08:44] <danish> not really relevant just .... extra knowledge
[08:44] <Jucato[Away] > maybe most people presume that the NT of Window NT stands for "net" or network. Considering MS is the one pushing .NET
[08:45] <Healot> WinFS is supposed to be the database underlying for NTFS, but it was hold
[08:45] <imbrandon> ahh ok well in that case google and wikipedia are your friend ;)
[08:45] <imbrandon> danish: ^^
[08:45] <danish> imbrandon: ^^
[08:45] <verbose> no, it's common knowledge that if you're researching blah, you go to blah.com
[08:46] <imbrandon> ?
[08:46] <imbrandon> verbose: heh yea if you want a spin from the creator ;)
[08:46] <verbose> :)
[08:46] <verbose> is whitehouse.com still a porn site?
[08:46] <verbose> i hope so
[08:46] <imbrandon> probably
[08:46] <Healot> yes :-
[08:46] <danish> so how many of peeps here actually helped build kubuntu or ubuntu
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > helped/helping?
[08:47] <intelikey> well we must admit the maker is likely to know more about it than anyone else.    even if they often show great bias.
[08:47] <danish> kool jucato keep it up
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > no I'm not
[08:47] <Healot> developers?
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > I was asking if you were asking who helped start or is still helping...
[08:48] <danish> both
[08:48] <danish> or one
[08:48] <imbrandon> danish: alot , many more than are here atm active in the room at the moment myself and crimsun are pacakge comtributors but many many many hundreds help build the os
[08:48] <Healot> you can whois each one of us, and see if any has members on their hostname
[08:48] <imbrandon> Healot: ;)
[08:48] <intelikey> danish /join #ubuntu+1   read the list.
[08:48] <Jucato[Away] > well, I'm helping in my own small way but not officially in Kubuntu or Ubuntu. I make transcripts for the #ubuntu-classroom classes
[08:49] <imbrandon> yea see ;)
[08:49] <imbrandon> intelikey: heh thats a short list too /me isnt there as arent alot of others that are in *-devel
[08:49] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:49] <danish> i will be helping one day too
[08:49] <imbrandon> anyhow speaking of /me gets back to work
[08:50] <imbrandon> danish: great
[08:50] <Jucato[Away] > hehehe you've been delayed far too long imbrandon
[08:50] <intelikey> i didn't say it was exhostive,  never implied it.  just that several that are there are devels
[08:50] <danish> is there a open source software to write device drivers
[08:51] <Jucato[Away] > danish: you can also help by giving help in the forums or in IRC or in the Mailing List
[08:51] <imbrandon> intelikey: yea just rasin ya a bit, take it with some salt ;)
[08:51] <danish> i think should be a development enviroment and converters to make from windows to linux
[08:51] <imbrandon> danish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[08:51] <imbrandon> danish: there are plenty already
[08:52] <imbrandon> danish: kdevelop monodevelop just to name two very common ones, there are several dozen depending on the task
[09:05] <[Nige] > anyone know a good multimedia player for kubuntu
[09:05] <[Nige] > or anyone know where I can find a mplayer package for kubuntu
[09:05] <noiesmo> [Nige] , I use mplayer
[09:05] <[Nige] > noiesmo, did you compile from source?
[09:05] <noiesmo> [Nige] , you need universe and multiverse
[09:05] <noiesmo> no
[09:05] <noiesmo> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[09:06] <intelikey> !mplayer
[09:06] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[09:06] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:06] <[Nige] > looking niow
[09:07] <SpAwN> !iso
[09:07] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:09] <amjad92> Hola!
[09:15] <DShepherd> anyone know if there's plan for amarok to use gstreamer0.10?
[09:15] <intelikey> i just don't know why users can't run vlc in the console....  i just watched a vidio in vlc console as root ... there is no x server running.        :?
[09:15] <DShepherd> intelikey: sweet
[09:16] <Jucato> DShepherd: I think that depends on the maintainers of the GStreamer back-end for KDE
[09:16] <DShepherd> Jucato: ok.
[09:16] <Jucato> btw, Amarok 1.4.2 and KTorrent 2.0.1 are now available!!
[09:16] <Jucato> and dapper-backports are alive once more
[09:16] <DShepherd> ok...
[09:17] <DShepherd> Jucato: seems that amarok does support gstreamer0.10  as of 1.4
[09:17] <DShepherd> Jucato: i dont know how well though
[09:18] <DShepherd> Jucato: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/amarok/1.4.2/multimedia/amarok/ChangeLog?rev=575607&view=auto -- you can do a search for gstreamer
[09:18] <Jucato> DShepherd: I haven't tried it out yet. but I have 1.4.2 installed. but no gstreamer...
[09:18] <DShepherd> Jucato: ok
[09:19] <DShepherd> neither have I
[09:19] <Jucato> lol
[09:19] <Jucato> I stick to what is there or is easiest to install, unless I really have to install something else..
[09:20] <misieq> !qt-mt
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <misieq> !qt
[09:20] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[09:20] <Jucato> misieq: you looking for libqt3-mt?
[09:20] <intelikey> hmmm this works for root "vlc -f --vout svgalib <filename>"  but for users it says "[00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display
[09:20] <intelikey> [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory
[09:21] <misieq> Jucato: just found it :)
[09:21] <intelikey> from the exact same command   ???
[09:21] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:22] <intelikey> i chmoded /dev/*  hoping i'd hit it by accident....
[09:23] <misieq> !kde
[09:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:23] <intelikey> anyone know what might be bad perming this thing ?
[09:24] <misieq> !kde-dev
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <Jucato> !kde-devel
[09:24] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:24] <misieq> :)
[09:24] <Jucato> misieq: you can also search for packages without ubotu's help, right there in Konqueror
[09:25] <misieq> yeah... right 40kb. when i checked it to install it sez 72M ;P
[09:25] <Jucato> type "apt:/" in Konqueror, and you'll have a very nice interface for apt-cache and packages.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <intelikey> or the commandline  or the package manager
[09:25] <misieq> Jucato: thanks, would be useful :)
[09:25] <Jucato> i wouldn't use the GUI package managers just to search/browser for packages, unless it were KPackage or Aptitude
[09:26] <misieq> how can i add sysinfo:/ to konqueror as seen in suse 10.1?
[09:26] <intelikey> i wouldn't use the gui
[09:26] <intelikey> :)
[09:26] <Jucato> misieq: it's a SUSE only thing...
[09:26] <Jucato> hm....
[09:26] <Jucato> intelikey: I know you wouldn't :-D
[09:27] <misieq> too bad... i thought it was some kio-slav or what.. :'(
[09:27] <Jucato> well, we can search, can't we? :-D
[09:27] <intelikey> is there a proc:/
[09:27] <Jucato> the apt:/ kio slave is a Kubuntu only thing, btw
[09:27] <intelikey> in konq ?
[09:28] <Jucato> intelikey: eheheh! but even if there were, you wouldn't need/use it anyway :-D
[09:28] <intelikey> i know i wouldn't  :)
[09:29] <Jucato> btw, there isn't one
[09:29] <intelikey> k  just wondering...    there's lots that konq knows.    #blah for example   iirc
[09:30] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:30] <Jucato> it also knows man:/ but not info:/
[09:30] <Jucato> misieq: there might be some good news for you (and me actually)
[09:31] <intelikey> hmmm   $blah   ?
[09:32] <intelikey> i'm going to ##linux for a bit, see if anyone knows what needs chmoded here.
[09:32] <[Nige] > !keyboard
[09:32] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:32] <[Nige] > !logitech
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <[Nige] > anyone have a multimedia keyboard?
[09:34] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:36] <Jucato> is it ok to use a DVD Writer as a DVD-ROM and/or a CD-ROM or should it only be used for burning purposes only?
[09:37] <crimsun> you can use it for whatever you want
[09:37] <crimsun> don't be alarmed if it doesn't function as a trash can.
[09:37] <Jucato> thanks! I was told before that CD Writers should only be used for burning, not reading...
[09:37] <Jucato> ehehe! I was hoping it could make me breakfast...
[09:38] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! glad to see you around
[09:38] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[09:39] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:39] <Jucato> dapper-backports are up! whoopee! meaning more updated stuff eheheh
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yep :)
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato:  i requested a backport of kopete last night
[09:40] <Jucato> yay!
[09:41] <Jucato> anyone here using KDissert?
[09:51] <Jucato>  @_@
[09:53] <INeedHelp> Hi i am new to linux, I wonder if any Packages work like K-Lite Mega Coddec?
[09:54] <aliasfred> what is klite mega coddec
[09:55] <INeedHelp> a codec pack for windows support playing Divx Xvid RM RMVB Qt
[09:55] <aliasfred> !restricted
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:56] <aliasfred> those link would explain to you how to install the codec you need
[09:56] <Jucato> INeedHelp: you wil need libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[09:56] <Healot> use the third party codecs
[09:56] <Healot> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:56] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:56] <INeedHelp> OH ^^ THNX GUYS ^^
[09:57] <damian> hey guess what
[09:57] <damian> windows vista is coming jan. so that means you guys can stop using linux
[09:57] <INeedHelp> NA ~ Windows SUCKS
[09:57] <aliasfred> ok lets forget the linux vs window war :)
[09:57] <Jucato> hmm....
[09:58] <damian> lol
[09:58] <damian> windows drm edition
[09:58] <michael__> beta
[09:58] <michael__> 2
[09:58] <michael__> lol
[09:59] <INeedHelp> Windows = BSoD
[09:59] <michael__> lookee and new m$ beta release u can pay for....woohoo
[09:59] <damian> webopedia defines a beta as a final state of a microsoft program
[09:59] <aliasfred> one may run the os that fit its need, lets not argue about the merit of each here
[09:59] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[09:59] <michael__> lol
[09:59] <michael__> now thats funny
[10:00] <Jazon> hi guys and gals :)
[10:00] <damian> Jucato: a little offtopic talk doesn't hurt anyone
[10:00] <michael__> sry - offtopic..
[10:00] <michael__> just couldnt resist the bait
[10:00] <Jucato> tell that to aliasfred
[10:00] <damian> Jucato: who's that guy
[10:00] <INeedHelp> lol
[10:00] <aliasfred> hehe :)
[10:00] <Jazon> i have the i915 in my laptop... running kubuntu dapper... google earth is really messed up... any hints?
[10:00] <Jucato> i'm just trying to advertise the other channel :-D
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: probably because you're using it through wine
[10:01] <Jazon> Jucato: kumusta ka?
[10:01] <Jazon> damian: nope.  linux ver
[10:01] <INeedHelp> btw, anytips for me( new linux user), i am switching windows to linux
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: there is no linux version
[10:01] <Jucato> Jazon: ehehe! just fine :-D
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: any version you downloaded uses the widnwos version+wine
[10:01] <aliasfred> Jazon: i have the same issue, with the same graphic card
[10:01] <Jazon> INeedHelp: sure, gobs... what you need?
[10:01] <aliasfred> damian: there is a google earth for linux
[10:02] <michael__> hmm works for me just fine
[10:02] <aliasfred> Jazon: and i didnt find a solution, nor did i look at it very hard thor :)
[10:02] <Jazon> aliasfred: well, i know it *can* work, 'cause i had it working 100% on another distro :P
[10:02] <aliasfred> Jazon: on the same hardware ?
[10:03] <Jazon> damian: same for picasa2.... granted, they did draw on the wine code, but it is still for linux
[10:03] <Jazon> aliasfred: yes, same laptop.
[10:03] <damian> Jazon: so google actually made a linux version that integrates wine?
[10:03] <aliasfred> Jazon: hmm 'interesting' news... this means a bug in the version somewhere..
[10:03] <Jucato> I thought Picasa was more natively Linux than Google Earth?
[10:03] <INeedHelp> any tips could help^^ ~ trying to get myself ready to linux with usual home usage(like music, DVD, Divx, CD, etc)
[10:04] <Jazon> it is drawing reasonably fast, but it is cropping on the edges and being weird
[10:04] <Jazon> INeedHelp: ok, load kubuntu dapper
[10:04] <aliasfred> INeedHelp: yep, the restristed links i gave you, and install kaffein as video player and amarok as audio player
[10:04] <Jazon> then install an application called Automatix.... (it saves a ton of time and grief)
[10:05] <Jazon> it totally automates all that hard stuff
[10:05] <Jazon> INeedHelp: it is just point and click then for all the codecs, dvd playback, etc etc etc.
[10:05] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:06] <Jazon> damian: yes, there is a linux version of google earth, and also picasa2 (which is very nice)
[10:06] <Jazon> INeedHelp: you on a laptop or a desktop?
[10:06] <INeedHelp> desktop
[10:07] <Jazon> INeedHelp: ok, tell me about your hardware
[10:07] <Jazon> also, are you in linux now?
[10:07] <Jucato> !restrictedformats
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <INeedHelp> old P4 1.6GHz  1G ram , 9600XT
[10:08] <Jucato> that page has the instructions you would need
[10:08] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:08] <Jucato> those two tools can make it easier for you
[10:08] <INeedHelp> yes i am in kubuntu
[10:09] <INeedHelp> but i can't install the system in raid0 T_T
[10:14] <INeedHelp> i can't find libxine-extracodecs
[10:15] <Jucato> INeedHelp: you need to have multiverse enabled
[10:15] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:16] <INeedHelp> i enable already
[10:16] <INeedHelp> enabled
[10:17] <Dwaf> Hi, people!
[10:17] <INeedHelp> hi
[10:17] <Jucato> INeedHelp: could you check again if the line where you added "multiverse" to is "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"?
[10:18] <Jazon> INeedHelp: why not just install automatix?
[10:18] <Jazon> it does all this for you mate
[10:18] <Jazon> it is seriously easy
[10:20] <INeedHelp> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/   dapper-backports   main restricted universe multiverse
[10:20] <INeedHelp> OK let me try
[10:20] <Jazon> INeedHelp:  http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt
[10:21] <Jucato> INeedHelp: no not that
[10:21] <Jucato> wrong line...
[10:21] <Jazon> Jucato: why?
[10:21] <Jazon> is he not running dapper?
[10:21] <Jucato> I was talking about the line where he added multiverse...
[10:22] <Jazon> Jucato: oh.  but automatix does all of this automatically.... why not keep it simple?
[10:26] <INeedHelp> OH ~
[10:26] <INeedHelp> wrong line XD
[10:26] <INeedHelp> let me install both libxine and auto ^^
[10:28] <Jucato> careful though with Automatix. just check what you really need...
[10:30] <INeedHelp> careful ?
[10:30] <INeedHelp> it will kill the system?
[10:31] <Jucato> nope
[10:31] <Jucato> I just remember someone havng a bit of trouble because he instructed Automatix to install drivers for both NVIDIA and ATI
[10:32] <INeedHelp> don't see ATI driver XD
[10:33] <INeedHelp> where are you guys form ,btw?
[11:06] <peterz> any way I can get a recent xorg on my edgy install?
[11:07] <peterz> btw, could an ubuntu op ping me
[11:08] <eeos> hi there. after last upgrade of xorg-core kde is slower and behaves strangely
[11:08] <eeos> anyone with similar problems?
[11:09] <peterz> eeos: edgy, I'll know in a bit, upgrading now
[11:09] <eeos> peterz are you moving to edgy? why?
[11:10] <peterz> eeos: I'm already on edgy, because dapper is getting very old
[11:10] <eeos> peterz is it stable?
[11:10] <peterz> eeos: stable enough for me
[11:10] <peterz> userland generally isn't the problem
[11:11] <eeos> peterz do you use in production
[11:11] <peterz> haha, don't be funny ;-)
[11:11] <peterz> I'm a kernel dev
[11:11] <peterz> I run vim and gcc
[11:12] <eeos> peterz did not know
[11:13] <eeos> peterz we need something we can use production
[11:13] <peterz> ha, sure, then these enterprise thingies are what you are looking for
[11:14] <eeos> peterz like?
[11:14] <peterz> dapper lts, RHEL, suse enterprise, etc..
[11:14] <peterz> those are the production distos
[11:16] <eeos> peterz ah, yes using 6.06 lts here
[11:17] <eeos> peterz having plenty of problems
[11:18] <eeos> peterz but stable have to say
[11:19] <peterz> I'm just using kubuntu on a few workstations, nothing that is critical in any way, as long as I don't trash the filesystems every other day
[11:20] <eeos> peterz we are on amd64 version on laptop, for everyday work,
[11:20] <imbrandon> ubuntu 6.06 is enterprise , thus the lts ( long term support )
[11:20] <imbrandon> maestronove: not a good idea to run irc as root
[11:20] <eeos> peterz they should have cleaned amd64 a bit more before releasing to the public, I think
[11:21] <peterz> No idea
[11:28] <pierre__> hello
[11:29] <pierre__> i would like to know how change the text coloration in Kate
[11:29] <INeedHelp> anyone know how to make mouse wheel work ?
[11:30] <kraut> moin
[11:32] <internat> anyone know how to set the default sound caard in kubuntu>?
[11:33] <eeos> pierre__  tools> highlighting then you chose the highlighting you need
[11:33] <pierre__> non you don't understand
[11:34] <pierre__> i want to chosse my color for the highlighting of the language C
[11:34] <pierre__> (choose not chosse)
[11:35] <pierre__> I've opened the c.xml
[11:35] <eeos> pierre__ do you mean to change them?
[11:35] <pierre__> but i don't what i have to change
[11:36] <pierre__> eeos escuse but i'm french, can you ask the question with others words please ?
[11:37] <pierre__> do you understand my probleme ?
[11:38] <eeos> pierre__  voulez-vous remplacer les couleurs?
[11:38] <pierre__> so for example, i write a .c to program, the words char and long and int (etc.) is in braun
[11:38] <pierre__> yes eeos
[11:40] <eeos> pierre__ kate > settings > fonts and colours
[11:46] <eeos> pierre__ did you get it?
[11:50] <pierre__> i believe you don't understand but not heavy
[11:50] <reiner_> hallo
[11:50] <Sola6662> yo
[11:52] <pierre__> eeos, i've found what you speak
[11:52] <eeos> pierre__ and?
[11:52] <pierre__> ok it's what i searched
[11:52] <pierre__> thanks
[11:53] <eeos> pierre__ ok, see you later
[11:54] <xunq> http://www.technoradionewyork.com/downloads/week/34/Livesets-t16-73-Richie%20Hawtin%20&%20Ben%20Sims%20-%20Electro%20Tramp%20.mp3
[11:55] <xunq> hi whu can i download xgl+compiz?
[11:56] <Tm_T> !xgl
[11:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:56] <Tm_T> xunq: there you go
[11:58] <xunq> thnx
[12:02] <internat> ok i can get sound in the "test sound" section of sounds and hardware, i can get sound in vlc, but i cant get sound in kaffeine.. any suggetstions?
[12:09] <lupine_85> internat: are you using the right plugin/engine for Kaffeine?
[12:09] <internat> xine
[12:09] <duncan_> Hello
[12:10] <internat> and i have it set to use alsa, which is what i have sound hardware set up to use in the option
[12:10] <duncan_> yesterday I installed my very first thing on open source, a mp3 player ;p
[12:10] <duncan_> btw
[12:10] <duncan_> has anyone got a unsupported wifi card working?
[12:10] <lupine_85> how unsupported? ;)
[12:11] <duncan_> not supported..
[12:11] <duncan_> some wifi cards are not supported in linux
[12:11] <duncan_> so you have to import windwos drivers and that stufff
[12:11] <lupine_85> if there's no native drivers, then ndiswrapper; if ndiswrapper doesn't work, linuxant might - but it costs $20
[12:12] <lupine_85> ok, so try ndiswrapper first - install the latest version from the website, and use the latest drivers for your card from the manufacturer's website
[12:12] <duncan_> ok  xD
[12:12] <duncan_> is ndiswrapper already pre installed on kubuntU?
[12:12] <lupine_85> no
[12:13] <lupine_85> it's in the repos, but you need the most up-to-date version for the best chance of success
[12:13] <duncan_> with wich commands can I install ndiswrapper?
[12:13] <lupine_85> so get it straight from the website
[12:13] <duncan_> is it a .dep file?
[12:13] <duncan_> gtg
[12:13] <duncan_> thanks lupine_85
[12:13] <lupine_85> it'll come as a tarball, so compile it :)
[12:13] <lupine_85> np
[12:20] <brotakul> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:28] <ubuntu> hi all. What is the best equivalent of beagle (a desktop search engine) for KDE?
[12:28] <ubuntu> I know that it was kat but as far as I know the project is stoped.
[12:29] <tsdgeos> ubuntu: you can use kerry
[12:29] <tsdgeos> that is a beagle frontend to beagle libs
[12:29] <brotakul> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:31] <INeedHelp> anyone know how to make mouse wheel work ?
[12:32] <lupine_85> SuSE KDE uses Beagle as well
[12:34] <ubuntu> kerry is front-end for beagle isn't it? I find beagle quite slow, and it eats a lot of mem. I was looking for a kde alternative but I can do with beagle
[12:34] <ubuntu> any news from tenor?
[12:35] <bro__> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:43] <sharkk> hi, how can i set an enviroment variable permanently?
[12:44] <sharkk> and for all users
[12:44] <RawSewage> how do you burn a DVD, when you have the DVD files, like VIDEO_TS folder
[12:46] <Bazzi> just burn the dir in the top level directory
[12:46] <RawSewage> are you sure
[12:46] <Bazzi> worked for me :)
[12:46] <RawSewage> I doubt that will work
[12:46] <Bazzi> why?
[12:46] <RawSewage> you burn VIDEO_TS as the top level directory as a data DVD in k3b?\
[12:47] <RawSewage> I dont think thats a good way
[12:47] <RawSewage> something like that didnt work in Nero
[12:47] <Bazzi> always worked for me in nero
[12:48] <Bazzi> well, k3b might have a special "burn dvd movie" method, no?
[12:48] <RawSewage> I couldnt find it
[12:48] <RawSewage> I'll look again
[12:48] <Bazzi> I havent used k3b myself yet though
[12:48] <Bazzi> just nero
[12:49] <RawSewage> oh
[12:49] <RawSewage> I think it's there
[12:49] <RawSewage> File -  New Project -
[12:49] <RawSewage> yes
[12:49] <RawSewage> there it is
[12:50] <RawSewage> its nice
[01:00] <liviux> hi all. Does anyone know which software can replace Cad application in linux sistem?
[01:00] <lupine_85> depends what sort of CAD? ;)
[01:01] <lupine_85> Inkscape is good for vector drawing
[01:01] <tobias_> I love inkscape
[01:01] <tobias_> for making flyers and posters
[01:02] <tobias_> its the choice of 1 of three vegan in trondheim :D
[01:02] <tanghus> Has anyone figured out how to make kwalletmanager appear in the systray on Dapper?
[01:03] <lupine_85> it does by default for me
[01:03] <tanghus> liviux: QCad?
[01:03] <lupine_85> has options in the settings tab
[01:04] <liviux> yes, but Inkskape (like some others), it's not for architecture. Qcad. I know. Thanks
[01:08] <RawSewage> how do you play DVDs
[01:08] <fanfan> hi everybody !
[01:08] <RawSewage> I just burned one, and Kafffeine says I dont have the proper plugins
[01:09] <fanfan> I have a question about amarok !
[01:09] <tsdgeos> then ask it, if you don't nobody will answer ;-)
[01:11] <fanfan> ok, I'd like to know if there is a script or something else to import all the podcasts subscriptions from Apple's iTunes to amarok
[01:11] <tsdgeos> try #amarok ;-)
[01:12] <fanfan> thanks
[01:16] <sharkk> how can i set an environment variable for all users?
[01:22] <RogueX> Hello
[01:30] <freemason> IceKnight: where are you from?
[01:39] <RogueX> can anyone tell me if there is a way to delete a file NOT move it to trash from inside Konqueror?
[01:41] <RawSewage> yes
[01:41] <RogueX> RawSewage: How????
[01:41] <RawSewage> settings - configure Konqueror - behavior
[01:41] <osh_> RogueX: shift-delete
[01:42] <RawSewage> oh, I didnt know about that
[01:42] <RawSewage> use shift-del
[01:42] <RogueX> Thanks
[01:44] <misieq> !flock
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <misieq> anyone knows flock?
[01:45] <allee> hi
[01:45] <Tonio_> heya allee :)
[01:45] <allee> anyone else here miss the kwallet icon in the systray (dapper + 3.5.4)
[01:46] <allee> H Tonio_ what an accident that we meet here too :)
[01:46] <Tonio_> hehe
[01:46] <RogueX> Can someone tell me how to update KDE from 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 the repositorys don't seem to show it
[01:46] <Tonio_> RogueX: you probably should update to 3.5.4 directly
[01:47] <Tonio_> RogueX: you'll find the repos to add on kubuntu.org
[01:47] <RogueX> Tonio_: I tried that before and it Trashed my box... LOL
[01:47] <Tonio_> search in the news to find them
[01:47] <Tonio_> RogueX: ah.... in this case, use the 3.5.3 repo, indeed :)
[01:47] <allee> RogueX: really worked fine here.  What was trashed?
[01:48] <RogueX> allee: Machine would not load into KDE any longer
[01:48] <allee> RogueX: mhmm, did you save ~/.xsession-errors for reference?
[01:49] <allee> RogueX: or didn't even kdm/X-server not start?
[01:51] <RogueX> allee: KDM/X would not start
[01:52] <allee> RogueX: on console as too run X and pastebin the error msg
[01:52] <redondo81> Hi , i'm a problem to install QtCurve for kde, when I lunch ./configure it give me an error : no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:52] <redondo81> What can I do?
[01:52] <allee> redondo81: apt-get  install libqt3-mt-dev should do the trick
[01:53] <RogueX> allee: I already reloaded system again
[01:53] <redondo81> ok, thankyou very much
[01:53] <allee> RogueX: if you started X only once yes.  You'll find X server output at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[01:55] <RogueX> allee: ok so what is the safest way to upgrade KDE?
[01:56] <allee> RogueX: mhhm, I just added the kubuntu.org 3.5.4 repo and aptitude dist-upgrade     # ah: /var/log/kdm.log  may also contain older X startup messages
[01:56] <allee> RogueX: /var/log/kdm.log.* that is
[01:57] <RogueX> allee: Is there somewhere for exact steps to do that? Such as repo name, and which files to upgrade?
[01:59] <allee> RogueX: deb line for sources.list is on kubuntu.org page.  KDE is always best to upgrade together so upgrade all pkgs: aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:59] <allee> RogueX: you know aptitude or are you adept/synaptics user?
[02:00] <RogueX> allee: Adept
[02:00] <Tonio_> allee can you confirm bug 57696 plz ?
[02:00] <Tonio_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/57696
[02:01] <redondo81> When I lunch the command apt-get  install libqt3-mt-dev it said to me it cannot find it,why?
[02:01] <allee> RogueX: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php  has all you need
[02:01] <allee> Tonio_,redondo81: one moment
[02:01] <redondo81> ok
[02:01] <RogueX> allee: Thank you
[02:02] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[02:03] <grothesk> Hi!
[02:03] <grothesk> Is amarok 1.4.2 already available for kubuntu.
[02:03] <allee> redondo81: strange, I had _no_ typo in pkgs:
[02:03] <allee> ii  libqt3-mt-dev         3.3.6-1ubuntu6        Qt development files (Threaded)
[02:04] <allee> redondo81: please cut and paste: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[02:05] <lupine_85> grothesk: yes
[02:05] <grothesk> lupine_85: So where do I find it?
[02:05] <lupine_85> I'm using this repo:- deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper amarok
[02:06] <lupine_85> but it might be in the official ones by now
[02:07] <redondo81> nothing
[02:07] <redondo81> it's say me that it cannot find that package
[02:07] <redondo81> :(
[02:07] <rolando> hi, anybody here from poland?
[02:09] <aliasfred> !pl
[02:09] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:10] <redondo81> everything I say with the command atp-get install it say me that it's impossible to find
[02:10] <rolando> ok dzeki
[02:10] <redondo81> why?
[02:10] <allee> redondo81: good question ...
[02:10] <aliasfred> redondo81: likely you have a misconfigured /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <grothesk>  atp-get ? You mean apt-get...
[02:10] <redondo81> yes yes, sorry
[02:10] <imbrandon> grothesk:
[02:10] <imbrandon> !amarok
[02:10] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[02:11] <allee> redondo81: what's the output of grep main /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <redondo81> wait I search it
[02:12] <redondo81> there are all rows commentated
[02:12] <redondo81> with #
[02:13] <aliasfred> !sources
[02:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:13] <allee> redondo81: that the problem ;)  uncomment at least the line with dapper main
[02:13] <aliasfred> to help you find out which one you should enable
[02:13] <redondo81> dapper main???What is it?I'm a newbie sorry
[02:14] <aliasfred> !easysource
[02:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:14] <aliasfred> !automatix
[02:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:14] <aliasfred> those two can help you greatly too
[02:17] <redondo81> I have decommentated the rows, I have to restart the system now?
[02:17] <aliasfred> nope
[02:17] <allee> redondo81: no. it's not windows
[02:17] <aliasfred> just do 'sudo apt-get update' to update
[02:17] <aliasfred> then the sudo apt-get install yourpackagenamegoeshere' should work
[02:18] <redondo81> great, it works now
[02:18] <redondo81> :))
[02:18] <allee> redondo81: as you are new to this:  uncomment the line with 'deb-src ...  main '  too
[02:18] <aliasfred> cool :)
[02:18] <redondo81> I have already do that
[02:18] <allee> redondo81: then:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get build-dep libqt3-mt-dev
[02:19] <redondo81> ok, I have a dial up connection, so I think I have to wait some time
[02:19] <allee> redondo81: cool!  then apt-get build-dep libqt3-mt-dev   will install everything needed to build qt itself.  This should be more than enought to build qtcurve
[02:20] <redondo81> thanks very much allee, you're a great friends ;)
[02:20] <allee> redondo81: np. you're welcome
[02:21] <allee> brb
[02:21] <redondo81> :)
[02:25] <redondo81> allee: can I ask you another thing?
[02:26] <allee> yeap
[02:26] <redondo81> I have a wireless network, but I don't have in system tray the icon to control it
[02:26] <redondo81> How can I install it?
[02:28] <redondo81> Allee are you here?
[02:28] <allee> redondo81: I don't use wireless often.  I installed knetworkmanager.  Dapper comes with kwifimanager (k-menu -> internet menu)
[02:29] <redondo81> ok, I'll try to install it
[02:30] <allee> redondo81: there also kwlan somewhere out there. Heart good things about it, have not tried
[02:30] <allee> WLAN, wifi anyone else with good tips for redondo81?
[02:40] <baldi> hello
[02:41] <eeos> baldi hi
[02:44] <waspius> where are the fonts located?
[02:45] <waspius> i have found so many dir but cannot find one which has them all in
[02:50] <Zinbou> Bonjour ici :)
[02:50] <Zinbou> personne , -_-
[02:52] <Mishakun> Hey, y'all. I just installed Kubuntu. Is it me or is the "build-essentials" package missing? It says on documentation under "Programming" that I should install that. But neither Adept or apt has it. ;_;
[02:53] <jkleinhans> hello everyone, I'm standing here with my developer letting him preview a Kubuntu machine.  He is interested in switching over to C++ instead of VB.net 2005, is there something he can use in kubuntu to practice/play
[02:54] <Skrot> jkleinhans: kdevelop -- it's a IDE for KDE development
[02:54] <eeos> Zinbou hi there what is the problem
[02:54] <Skrot> Mishakun: And build-essential is here with me.. :)
[02:54] <Zinbou> nothing i just test kubunutu live cd ;) it's very great ;)
[02:54] <Zinbou> *kubuntu
[02:55] <jkleinhans> well is there anything that can work platform independant?
[02:56] <Mishakun> Skrot: Huh? o_
[02:56] <Skrot> Mishakun: I've got the package, if I search for it (apt-cache search build-essential)
[02:57] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, could use QTdesigner
[02:57] <duncan_> Hiya
[02:57] <Skrot> So it should be in the resp.
[02:57] <jkleinhans> hmm
[02:57] <Mishakun> Yeah, I tried that. But it won't find it.
[02:57] <jkleinhans> how would I get that going [GuS] 
[02:57] <[GuS] > is multiplataform
[02:57] <Skrot> sudo apt-get install qt3-designer
[02:57] <[GuS] > mmm
[02:57] <[GuS] > no necesary
[02:57] <[GuS] > there is QT4
[02:57] <duncan_> Guys, where can I change my resolution?
[02:58] <Mishakun> duncan_: System Settings, Display
[02:58] <duncan_> ok guys thx!
[02:58] <duncan_> Kubuntu ownz!
[02:58] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install qt4-designer jkleinhans
[02:58] <jkleinhans> hmm said there was no qt4 package
[02:59] <[GuS] > type that in console...
[02:59] <jkleinhans> E: Couldn't find package qt4-designer  [GuS]  this was from kate
[02:59] <[GuS] > kate??
[02:59] <[GuS] > kate is a text editor...
[02:59] <jkleinhans> the terminal?
[02:59] <[GuS] > Konsole you mean
[03:00] <[GuS] > you have enabled repositories in your apt?
[03:01] <jkleinhans> I don' tknow what that stuff is [GuS] 
[03:01] <jkleinhans> <--- MCSA that's new to linux
[03:01] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, you sould read for it then :)
[03:01] <[GuS] > new in linux does not mean to not read nothing :)
[03:01] <Mishakun> Ah... Looks like repos were all disabled...
[03:02] <Mishakun> No wonder apt-get update was quick. o_o
[03:02] <[GuS] > lol Mishakun
[03:02] <jkleinhans> sry I understand things take time
[03:02] <jkleinhans> and this is something I'll have to get the hang of
[03:02] <[GuS] > of course.
[03:02] <[GuS] > but you could search for info anyway :)
[03:02] <jkleinhans> and sry to come off w/a spoon-feed-me mentality
[03:03] <duncan_> ffs
[03:03] <duncan_> 1024*768 is the highest:(
[03:03] <VincentMX> hi
[03:03] <[GuS] > edit your /etc/apt/sources.list jkleinhans
[03:03] <Mishakun> duncan_: try changing the screen and video card to the most appropriate.
[03:03] <[GuS] > with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:03] <Mishakun> i.e. in the settings
[03:04] <[GuS] > and uncomment the lines before the word "deb"
[03:04] <jkleinhans> [GuS] : ok I'm navigating there
[03:06] <jkleinhans> ok I've uncommented everything that had "deb" in it
[03:06] <jkleinhans> save changes then apt-get?
[03:06] <Mishakun> yeah... don't forget to cross the fingers...
[03:06] <Mishakun> crossing the fingers is very important.
[03:06] <Mishakun> :)
[03:07] <Mishakun> it should work at least.
[03:07] <jkleinhans> hmm still says same thing
[03:07] <jkleinhans> and I even crossed my fingers
[03:07] <duncan_> is it normal for a nividia 6800 to have 1024*768 reso?
[03:07] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, did you save the file?
[03:07] <Mishakun> duncan_: nope... but what kind of screen do you have?
[03:07] <[GuS] > you must do: sudo apt-get update after that
[03:07] <jkleinhans> [GuS] : yes but I'll dbl check
[03:08] <duncan_> 19'' tft philips
[03:08] <Mishakun> ah yes... don't forget to apt-get update...
[03:08] <[GuS] > control+s to save
[03:08] <duncan_> ....?
[03:08] <Mishakun> duncan_: you need to restart x before you can change the settings after setting the video card in prefs.
[03:08] <jkleinhans> hmm all the comments are out of the deb lines
[03:09] <duncan_> ok
[03:09] <duncan_> log of & log on again
[03:09] <duncan_> is that enough?
[03:09] <Mishakun> I dunno...
[03:09] <duncan_> :s
[03:09] <Mishakun> I think so.
[03:09] <chopin> how do i access the bootloader settings in kubuntu?
[03:10] <fildo> hey guys, wondering if anyone has and wiki's or info on the ipw2100 on kubuntu.
[03:10] <jkleinhans> I'm just going to nuke this thing and reinstall
[03:10] <jkleinhans> my install was f'd because I wasn't connected to the internet
[03:11] <jkleinhans> thx guys and I'll try that designer once I'm done reinstalling
[03:11] <JohnFlux> how do I install acrobat reader?
[03:11] <JohnFlux> please
[03:11] <JohnFlux> !acrobat
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, reinstalling... for what?
[03:11] <[GuS] > is not windows...
[03:11] <[GuS] > you dont need to reinstall...
[03:13] <chopin> can i access GRUB at the bootloader screen or do i have to config it from within kubuntu?
[03:13] <fildo> !wireless
[03:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:13] <chopin> !grub
[03:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <jkleinhans> [GuS] : ok...what else could be giving me these messages?
[03:14] <redondo81> Hi, I have a problem, when I try to lunch the command ./configure to install QtCurve it tell me I don't have kde headers installed, What can I do?
[03:14] <[GuS] > wich ones jkleinhans  ?
[03:14] <jkleinhans> the ones being produced on the apt-get install
[03:15] <[GuS] > ok, but WICH ones
[03:15] <jkleinhans> I even tried it on qt3-designer and it was the same error
[03:15] <duncan_> can someone guide me throught the proces of installing ndswrapper?
[03:15] <redondo81> ???Anyone can help me please?
[03:16] <jkleinhans> E: Couldn't find package qt4-designer [GuS] 
[03:16] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, did you type: sudo apt-get update ???????????????????'''
[03:16] <jkleinhans> yep
[03:16] <[GuS] > and did you have errors?
[03:17] <jkleinhans> yes, the E: Couldn't find package qt4-designer was the error
[03:17] <jkleinhans> it reads the package lists and builds dependancy trees, then gives me that error
[03:18] <grothesk> imbrandon: There is something wrong with your libtunepimp3 packages.
[03:18] <imbrandon> grothesk: fixing now .... give me a few minutes , i just noticed myself
[03:18] <grothesk> LOL
[03:18] <[GuS] > is not an error
[03:19] <jkleinhans> really?
[03:19] <jkleinhans> I'm just a windows dummy huh :)
[03:19] <grothesk> And I was wondering what went wrong with the installation, imbrandon
[03:19] <[GuS] > add this lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[03:19] <[GuS] > deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[03:19] <[GuS] > deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multivers
[03:19] <[GuS] > and then sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <[GuS] > again
[03:20] <imbrandon> grothesk: yea give me a sec to fix it up, shouldent take long
[03:20] <grothesk> imbrandon: libtunepimp.so.3.0.0 existed in libtunepimp3 AND libtunepimp3-mp3.
[03:20] <grothesk> Just to be sure you did not fix something else...
[03:20] <imbrandon> yes they are both supose to , as i said give me a second
[03:21] <jkleinhans> ok it freaked out again [GuS] 
[03:21] <[GuS] > ?
[03:21] <jkleinhans> same message
[03:21] <[GuS] > you are nopt doing things right then
[03:21] <jkleinhans> btw I appreciate ur patience and help w/this
[03:21] <[GuS] > becase qt3-designer and qt4-designer are there man.
[03:21] <jkleinhans> I believe you
[03:22] <[GuS] > what do you to edit that file for example?
[03:22] <imbrandon> !info qt4-designer dapper
[03:22] <ubotu> qt4-designer: Qt 4 Designer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1323 kB, installed size 3508 kB
[03:22] <imbrandon> universe
[03:22] <[GuS] > yes imbrandon
[03:23] <[GuS] > but i think he is not saving the file...
[03:23] <jkleinhans> hmm I added those 2 lines to the top of that file, then saved
[03:23] <[GuS] > and after that jkleinhans , what do you do?
[03:23] <imbrandon> you told him add multiverse
[03:23] <jkleinhans> I use Ctrl-X and yes
[03:23] <[GuS] > imbrandon, read up
[03:23] <[GuS] > i told him universe too...
[03:23] <[GuS] > so please...
[03:23] <imbrandon> ok
[03:24] <[GuS] > don't read between lines...
[03:24] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, did you type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list to edit that file?
[03:24] <[GuS] > SUDO is important.. bcause is a system file and you need root permission.
[03:25] <jkleinhans> [GuS] : I'm in the current /etc/apt directory and used sudo nano yes
[03:25] <[GuS] > good
[03:25] <jkleinhans> I'm an old dos guy too so I cd / cd .. etc like crazy
[03:25] <[GuS] > then... what do you do? to update the data base of repositories?
[03:26] <[GuS] > this is not DOS... and either Windows :P
[03:26] <jkleinhans> :)
[03:26] <jkleinhans> then I open the file, do what you say, quit the file and save on exit
[03:26] <[GuS] > and then?
[03:26] <jkleinhans> then sudo apt-get update qt4-designer
[03:26] <[GuS] > see?
[03:26] <fritsch> somebody has a knowledge of initrds (i bite in the table ... if this goes on ...)
[03:26] <[GuS] > wrong!
[03:26] <[GuS] > you forgot first
[03:26] <jkleinhans> oh no
[03:26] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <jkleinhans> ahh
[03:27] <jkleinhans> so I just sudo apt-get update 1st then sudo apt-get update qt4-designer?
[03:27] <redondo81> Anyone can tell me how to install kde headers?
[03:27] <[GuS] > everytime you update your sources.list... you must do sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <jkleinhans> dude awsome
[03:27] <jkleinhans> its actually doing something now
[03:27] <[GuS] > and after that sudo apt-get update qt4-designer
[03:27] <jkleinhans> ok so Im' assuming
[03:27] <fritsch> redondo81: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev
[03:28] <[GuS] > sorry
[03:28] <[GuS] > i mean sudo apt-get install qt-designer
[03:28] <redondo81> thanks
[03:28] <jkleinhans> I'm assuming that sources.list is a list of sources kubuntu goes to in order to get packages and updates
[03:28] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install qt4-designer
[03:28] <[GuS] > yes jkleinhans
[03:28] <jkleinhans> so we made modifications, and in order to have those updated so packages can be added, we need to apt-get update 1st
[03:28] <[GuS] > is the "data base" of the repositories and the packages
[03:28] <jkleinhans> ahh
[03:28] <[GuS] > right
[03:28] <jkleinhans> awesome
[03:29] <jkleinhans> I learned something today
[03:29] <[GuS] > :)
[03:29] <jkleinhans> and thank you very much for your time and patience
[03:29] <[GuS] > all this kind of ingo jkleinhans you have in Ubuntu/kubuntu sites.. wikis...
[03:29] <[GuS] > info*
[03:29] <imbrandon> grothesk: ping
[03:29] <fritsch> redondo81: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev might help, too
[03:29] <[GuS] > jkleinhans, i will help you every time you WANT to learn... but you must read too ;)
[03:30] <jkleinhans> ok
[03:30] <jkleinhans> I really apprecieate it
[03:30] <grothesk> pong! imbrandon
[03:30] <[GuS] > :)
[03:30] <jkleinhans> she's installing right now
[03:30] <[GuS] > is she? jeje
[03:30] <imbrandon> grothesk: fix uploaded , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:30] <fritsch> Somebody know about initrds? support fr it821x module ... can`t get it autoloaded in initrd. will rebuild ubuntu kernel and compile it in ...
[03:31] <imbrandon> fritsch: try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-kernel
[03:31] <fritsch> imbrandon: ty
[03:31] <shentey> hi! libkopete.la is said to depend upon libfam... however, libgamin, which does the same, is installed exclusively
[03:32] <grothesk> KUDOS! works imbrandon!
[03:32] <imbrandon> yw
[03:32] <shentey> so i can't compile any additional kopete plugin :-(
[03:32] <shentey> i guess it must be a bug in the kopete-dev package
[03:33] <mefiX> any german house/techno listeners in here?
[03:34] <larson9999> mefix i spent many nights in "the glass house" in kaiserslautern.  does that qualify?
[03:34] <mefiX> would say so
[03:34] <mefiX> http://www.theshrine.de/
[03:34] <mefiX> ^
[03:35] <larson9999> nice
[03:36] <mefiX> i could spend the whole day clicking around
[03:36] <mefiX> its so funny
[03:38] <jkleinhans> hmm [GuS] where is this badboy located now lol
[03:39] <[GuS] > ?
[03:39] <jkleinhans> bah! I have 100+ updates!
[03:39] <pichi_> hello to all
[03:39] <[GuS] > for suere
[03:39] <[GuS] > to update your system type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm redesigned my kde (wallpaper, loginscreen, colorscheme, desktop, windeco...) and then, i restarted x, and after the login it started the Kpersonalizer  and tail -f varlogsyslog says can't open default user face
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> where is the user face?
[03:44] <jkleinhans> ok [GuS]  this qt4-designer is a good package?
[03:44] <[GuS] > yes
[03:44] <jkleinhans> is it good for both linux non-KDE and ??
[03:44] <[GuS] > is a GUI development main for c++
[03:44] <[GuS] > yes
[03:44] <jkleinhans> ok we make motion controllers
[03:45] <[GuS] > you could port it for win, mac... linux
[03:45] <jkleinhans> that use the serial port
[03:45] <jkleinhans> oh wow
[03:53] <dognews> hello everyone
[03:54] <dognews> I want to compile a programm which uses this QtXml thing
[03:54] <dognews> but it doesn't work, because he can't find it - there must be a package missing
[03:54] <dognews> does anyone of you know which one it could be?
[03:55] <allee> !paste
[03:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:56] <dognews> ubotu: do you mean me?
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you mean me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <dognews> test
[03:57] <dognews> ubotu: are you a bot?
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <[GuS] > dognews, yes is a bot...........
[03:58] <dognews> lol
[04:05] <fenixon> witam
[04:05] <fenixon> mam problem - gdy sciagam pliki przez KTorrent, pobieranie staje na 99,6% i nie chce dalej ruszac. Czy zna ktos rozwiazanie tego problemu?
[04:07] <verbose> fenixon: can you say that in english?
[04:07] <fenixon> ohh sorry
[04:07] <nagyv> hello! how could I check which processes take so much processor time that my laptop is unusually slooooow?
[04:07] <verbose> nagyv: use top
[04:08] <Jucato> nagyv: or press Ctrl+Esc. whichever you prefer :-D
[04:08] <fenixon> when i downloading files by KTorrent my downloading is stopping at 99,6%. How to fix it?
[04:08] <fenixon> sorry for my ill english
[04:08] <verbose> fenixon: that's normal for torrents
[04:09] <verbose> just leave it open
[04:09] <verbose> it will finish eventually
[04:09] <fenixon> ok thanks ;)
[04:09] <Jucato> or you can try the latest version of KTorrent, which is now happily available in our repositories
[04:09] <spazz> hmm what bittorrent client do u guys use?
[04:09] <Jucato> dapper-backports repositories, I mean
[04:10] <verbose> but that will not fix your problem
[04:10] <Jucato> spazz: I'm quite satisfied with KTorrent ^_^
[04:10] <spazz> ktorrent the slowest client I have ever used.
[04:10] <spazz> without a doubt, its THE slowest one ive EVER used lol
[04:10] <Jucato> verbose: it might have been a bug that was fixed in 2.0.1
[04:10] <spazz> was about to install java so i can try azureus.
[04:10] <Glj12> arg, help. :(
[04:10] <Glj12> make never works for me
[04:10] <Jucato> spazz: YMMV... (Your Mileage May Vary)
[04:10] <Glj12> Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/.config: No such file or directory
[04:10] <fenixon> im downloading files by KTorrent with max speed
[04:10] <Glj12> make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/.config'. Stop.
[04:11] <spazz> yea, im getting ZERO miles.
[04:11] <Glj12> ideas on why it does this to me always?
[04:11] <spazz> highest speed ive seen is like 60kb down.
[04:11] <Jucato> Glj12: did you do "./configure" first?
[04:11] <Glj12> no, the install didnt say to
[04:11] <spazz> utorrent worked fine in wine before, but now it refuses to work, argh.
[04:11] <Jucato> I mean "./configure"
[04:11] <Glj12> i mean, do i just type it anywhere?
[04:11] <Jucato> spazz: were you the one who had troubles installing the latest KTorrent?
[04:11] <Glj12> or go to the dir and do that
[04:12] <spazz> ... i am the same person you are thinking of, but i got it installed fine.
[04:12] <Jucato> Glj12: usually, you go to the directory were you extraced the .tar.gz
[04:12] <spazz> i just didnt know where to get it
[04:12] <Jucato> spazz: you were just a few days too early
[04:12] <spazz> What do you mean?
[04:12] <Jucato> KTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports... as easy as apt-get now
[04:12] <Glj12> Jucato: I did that, but it said the bash thing, not found not a command or w/e
[04:12] <spazz> ohlol.
[04:13] <spazz> well i have it now, very dissapointed in it.
[04:13] <Jucato> Glj12: did you install the package called "build-essential" ?
[04:13] <spazz> cant seem to find anything that rivals utorrent.
[04:13] <spazz> :(
[04:13] <Jucato> spazz: ehehe... like I said... YMMV
[04:13] <Glj12> i guess i'll see if i have that
[04:13] <spazz> What other client would u recommend?
[04:13] <spazz> Besides azureus
[04:13] <spazz> and ... how do I get java? which one, the sun version? from apt-get?
[04:13] <Glj12> ok, i dont have build-essential installed
[04:14] <Jucato> spazz: BitTornado? the only annoying thing about it is 1 window per Torrent
[04:14] <Jucato> Glj12: you need to install it
[04:14] <spazz> ...terminal always gives me errors all the time lol.
[04:14] <Glj12> so i install that, then make shoudl work?
[04:14] <spazz> I think I've tried bitornado.
[04:14] <Jucato> spazz: first, enable multiverse, then sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[04:14] <Jucato> Glj12: it should
[04:14] <Glj12> sweet, thanks
[04:14] <Jucato> spazz: never install Sun Java in Adept...
[04:14] <Glj12> yeah, i'm just trying to install a driver for my wifi card
[04:15] <Jucato> ok... I feel dizzy trying to type as fast as I can talking to two people... @_@
[04:15] <spazz> http://thepiratebay.org/brwsearch.php?b=1&c=205&d=0&orderby=&page=0&orderby=dl
[04:15] <Glj12> lol, thank you
[04:15] <spazz> err where did that come from
[04:15] <Jucato> lol
[04:15] <Jucato> paste?
[04:15] <spazz> yea, but .. i copied something from terminal.
[04:15] <Glj12> its doing the same thing, sorry Jucato
[04:15] <spazz> didnt work though.
[04:15] <Glj12> i hate to bother you
[04:15] <spazz>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:15] <Jucato> spazz: check your Clipboard, it's probably there
[04:15] <spazz> there.
[04:16] <Jucato> Glj12: you were already able to install build-essential?
[04:16] <Glj12> yeah
[04:16] <Glj12> just did it
[04:16] <erov> anyone have KPersonalizer running on each start since kde354 ??
[04:16] <Glj12> with adept
[04:16] <Jucato> spazz: did you try to install Java in Adept?
[04:16] <spazz> no.
[04:16] <erov> or know how to stop it :) ?
[04:16] <Jucato> erov: try uninstalling KPersonalizer
[04:16] <spazz> i'm doing what it told me to do though in the terminal
[04:16] <spazz> ... aw, CRAP.
[04:16] <erov> hm..alright
[04:16] <spazz> theres ALWAYS errors in linux
[04:16] <spazz> omg.
[04:17] <Jucato> Glj12: hm....
[04:17] <Glj12> lol
[04:17] <spazz> look :
[04:17] <enzo_> Yo Jucato
[04:17] <Jucato> hi enzo_! ^_^
[04:17] <Glj12> so no ideas Jucato?
[04:17] <Glj12> does it help if i tell you that i am installing a realtek driver?
[04:17] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21642
[04:17] <Jucato> none, except reading and following the installation instructions...
[04:17] <spazz> Jucato ^^
[04:18] <Jucato> spazz: looking at it..
[04:18] <grothesk> Is there any GUI available for dialing in a DSL modem?
[04:18] <Glj12> i did Jucato
[04:19] <erov> cd /etc
[04:19] <erov> err
[04:19] <Jucato> spazz: what were you trying to install before this happened?
[04:21] <spazz> i didnt try installing anything.
[04:21] <spazz> not in that terminal at least.
[04:21] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:21] <spazz> nothing java related
[04:21] <Jucato> even not in the terminal...
[04:21] <spazz> in fact, only things i think ive installed
[04:21] <Jucato> basically dpkg --configure -a is trying to continue/fix a previously interrupted installation
[04:21] <spazz> are w32codecs... maybe some other codecs... the latest ktorrent
[04:21] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:22] <spazz> and.. installed wine through apt-get
[04:22] <spazz> which.. now utorrent doesnt work like it was on my last install
[04:22] <Jucato> you didn't experience any errors in Adept?
[04:22] <spazz> ... i dont think i used adept.
[04:22] <spazz> maybe i have i cant remember
[04:22] <spazz> do i have to reinstall for like the 3rd time this week? lol
[04:22] <Jucato> ok... I'm stumped... I think there's an option in apt-get to fix these things. I'm just not familiar with iit...
[04:23] <Jucato> spazz: probably not
[04:23] <spazz> hope not, lol.
[04:23] <spazz> ive broken linux so many times.
[04:23] <RawSewage> how do you start Samba
[04:23] <spazz> heh if only it were a contest.
[04:23] <Jucato> lol
[04:23] <Glj12> RawSewage: Type samba in konsole.
[04:23] <spazz> WTF!!!!! Ktorrent just up and randomly crashes
[04:23] <spazz> while im typing this! ..
[04:23] <spazz> that is the biggest pos program.
[04:23] <RawSewage> Glj12, that doesnt work
[04:24] <Glj12> mmmm
[04:24] <Jucato> spazz: why not remove it if it's giving you so much trouble?
[04:24] <spazz> downloads are never going to finish
[04:24] <deb> RawSewage: start the process smbd
[04:24] <Glj12> then apt-get install samba
[04:24] <spazz> because i was trying to see if my like 3 downloads would finish
[04:24] <Jucato> then try installing the new one from dapper-backports?
[04:24] <RawSewage> Glj12, it's already installed
[04:24] <deb> RawSewage: configure smb.conf
[04:24] <spazz> 8 hours left on one of them thats like 1.2gb
[04:24] <Glj12> ok, then do what he said
[04:24] <spazz> hate to haev to stop midway through the thing
[04:24] <Jucato> spazz: then close it for a while, then try installing from the reps...
[04:24] <RawSewage> deb, configure it how
[04:24] <RawSewage> thats the command?
[04:24] <spazz> It wont get rid of my torrents?
[04:25] <spazz> if i try reinstalling it?
[04:25] <deb> RawSewage: depends on your comfiguration . What exactly do u wnat to do with samba  ?
[04:25] <Glj12> reinstalling doesnt NORMALLY mean removal
[04:25] <RawSewage> start the server
[04:25] <Glj12> usually means rewriting the same files over
[04:25] <Bizzy> hey, can someone send me the link for getting mp3 playback in amarok
[04:25] <spazz> i just need to know if my torrents will still be there.. where i cna pick up where i left off
[04:26] <RawSewage> deb, something about init.d
[04:26] <Jucato> spazz: hmm...
[04:27] <RawSewage> deb,  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:27] <RawSewage> deb, ty
[04:27] <deb> RawSewage: that should work
[04:28] <deb> RawSewage: try to create a minimal smb.conf file with just a workgroup name in the global section and a tepm share
[04:28] <spazz> terminal = deathj
[04:29] <Jucato> spazz: you can always just import existing download
[04:29] <spazz> wished i could use another program to resume the download lol
[04:29] <hughlle> any reason why i am unable to access any of my shared folders from my M$ machine?
[04:30] <MuJ> hughlle: wrong priviliges?
[04:30] <hughlle> well when i try and access them it asks for a username and such but i have set to allow all users and guests
[04:31] <hughlle> thi is my first time with kubuntu and linux on a whole
[04:31] <spazz> damnit. this isnt going to work.
[04:31] <nagyv> it's so slow, that I just get to open the System guard. what should I look for now? the VmSize or something else?
[04:31] <spazz> every single time i use the stupid terminal it gives me errors.
[04:31] <Jucato> nagyv: usually vmsize to see what's eating your RAM,
[04:32] <spazz> Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21645
[04:32] <baldi> cu @ll
[04:33] <Jucato> imbrandon: does k3b in Edgy get it's splash screen back?
[04:33] <hughlle> i am trying simple sharing but i am still asked for a username and password, i tried the root password and such from my kubuntu OS but to no avail
[04:33] <Jucato> spazz: you have dapper-backports enabled?
[04:33] <spazz> i dunno. how do i find out
[04:33] <nagyv> Jucato: firefox: 163000, Xorg: 129000, mysqld: 126000, I also had amarok with 127000, but I have killed it already
[04:33] <Kronos> Question: Where does StepMania usually install to?
[04:34] <Jucato> spazz: in your sources.list? or in Adept > Adept menu > Manage Repositories
[04:34] <spazz> second option sounds easier
[04:34] <spazz> lol
[04:34] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:34] <hughlle> quick question: how do i connect to #quakenet
[04:35] <flaccid> evening
[04:35] <Jucato> hughlle:  type /join #quakenet
[04:35] <hughlle> as in the quakenet server
[04:35] <Jucato> aaah sorry
[04:35] <hughlle> not the quakenet channel
[04:35] <Jucato> spazz: seems like librsvg has something to do with graphics...
[04:36] <spazz> graphics, lol thats all i need is graphics problems lol. thats how my last install broke (bad bad BAD ati driver BAD!)
[04:36] <Jucato> spazz: no. not video card graphics. but more of picture/image graphics stuff
[04:37] <spazz> oh.
[04:37] <spazz> backports were enabled
[04:37] <spazz> just checked
[04:40] <Jucato> has anyone noticed that that the Power Savings bug is back?
[04:41] <apallo19> which bug is that?
[04:42] <Jucato> the one that Power Saving resets to "enabled" and "30 minutes" after every reboot...
[04:43] <sizzam> i'm a kde newb,  whats the best way to create a shortcut to firefox on my panel WITH the firefox icon?
[04:43] <buz> right click on the panel
[04:43] <Jucato> sizzam: in K Menu, right-click on the Firefox entry and select "Add Item to Main Panel"
[04:43] <nagyv> right click on the panel, and go to Panel menu->add application to panel->select it
[04:43] <buz> chose panel menu -> add application etc
[04:43] <buz> !strigi
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about strigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <sizzam> buz, right now i have a shortcut to firefox, but i cant figure out how to change the icon
[04:44] <Jucato> or you can also do what they said ^_^
[04:44] <Jucato> sizzam: oh you want to change Firefox's icon
[04:44] <buz> right click on the icon and you should be able to change it
[04:44] <buz> by clicking on the icon itself in the dialogbox
[04:44] <sizzam> buz, oooooh, i see, you click the icon
[04:44] <sizzam> thanks!
[04:44] <buz> yeah not immediately obvious i guess
[04:45] <flaccid> my screen is a bit cut off the bottom on my notebook
[04:45] <Kr4t05> Does anyone here have Stepmania?
[04:45] <buz> you sure you use the right resolution?
[04:45] <flaccid> yep
[04:45] <sizzam> what would you all say is the most common kde mail client,  kmail?
[04:45] <buz> kmail
[04:45] <sizzam> ok
[04:46] <buz> or thunderbird for those who dont like kmails crashyness
[04:46] <Kr4t05> sizzam: yeah, but you can easily get thunderbird
[04:46] <sizzam> cool, i'll get thunderbird, im used to that
[04:46] <flaccid> it only seems to be cut off with the bottom of kicker
[04:46] <buz> be sure to look for plastikfox theme
[04:46] <buz> that way it should look mostly like kde
[04:46] <Jucato> I'm just curious: if you were a beginner to KDE/Kubuntu, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, and only had the Trash applet in Kicker, how do you "easily" create a Trash shortcut on the desktop?
[04:47] <buz> can anyone recommend a good search engine that unlike beagle wont trash my whole system all the time
[04:48] <flaccid> ah its the normal size of the panel
[04:48] <flaccid> doesn't fit icons
[04:48] <flaccid> fixed
[04:48] <flaccid> how can i access my fedora partitions?
[04:48] <Jucato> hmm.... search engine...
[04:49] <nicola> sorry I have som problem with amarok and mp3... can anyone help?
[04:49] <Jucato> Kerry? Kat? locate:/ ??
[04:49] <Jucato> nicola: can't play MP3's?
[04:49] <nicola> yes
[04:49] <nicola> i suppose i have to install xine plugins
[04:49] <cozomo> I need a system monitor, any suggestions?
[04:49] <Jucato> nicola:  you need to install "libxine-extracodecs". you will only see this package when you enabled "multiverse"
[04:49] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:49] <cozomo> (running dapper drake)
[04:50] <brotakul> cozmo: superkaramba
[04:50] <buz> kerry is beagle
[04:50] <Jucato> cozomo: Try KSysGuard?
[04:50] <buz> kat doesnt work for all i know
[04:50] <nicola> and how will i enable multiverse?
[04:50] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:50] <buz> id love to try strigi but i cant get it to build
[04:50] <cozomo> jucato: is there anyway I could get that to doc onto my desktop or something?
[04:51] <nicola> thank you very much
[04:51] <flaccid> can anyone help me work out out to mount the fedora LVM, is it possible
[04:51] <Jucato> cozomo: oh you want something on your desktop? you could probably go for a Superkaramba them
[04:51] <Jucato> theme*
[04:52] <cozomo> jucato: should I google that or do you have a link?
[04:52] <Jucato> nicola: just be sure that you add "multiverse" to the line that has "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and not to the ones with "dapper-backports"
[04:52] <Jucato> cozomo: superkaramba can be installed from the repositories. you can look for themes in http://www.kde-look.org
[04:53] <brotakul> probably it sounds stupid, but is there any script to auto compile sources? i'm new with linux and didn't yet succesfuly compiled sources and it would be much easyer. something like gdebi installer or something...
[04:53] <lupine_85> depends how the sources are packaged
[04:53] <lupine_85> "make" is the usual method
[04:54] <lupine_85> significantly easier than doing it by hand!
[04:54] <brotakul> i always get errors on compiling... something like: "no files or directories. stop."
[04:54] <Kr4t05> brotakul: Try using sudo
[04:54] <lupine_85> you just need to make sure your sources are good, and your build environment is right
[04:55] <redondo81> Anyone now how I can install automake1.6 for kde?
[04:55] <Kr4t05> !compiling > brotakul
[04:55] <brotakul> not even convert from sources to .deb? something like alien...
[04:55] <nagyv> I can do nothing with my high CPU load. I already restarted X, but even this didn't helped, is there an other solution than restarting the system?
[04:56] <brotakul> Kr4t05: english is not my mother language, sorry. i'm doing my best here :P
[04:56] <Kr4t05> brotakul: you could use dpkg, but you'd still have to compile the source.
[04:56] <brotakul> ok
[04:56] <redondo81> ???How Install automake for kde?
[04:56] <Kr4t05> brotakul: have you run the ./configure script?
[04:57] <brotakul> yes
[04:57] <brotakul> ./configure -> make -> make install
[04:57] <Kr4t05> brotakul: Has it given you any errors about dependancies?
[04:57] <Kr4t05> brotakul: place "sudo" before the "make install"
[04:57] <brotakul> not about dependencies, it sais it couldn't find "make"
[04:57] <flaccid> hmm so can anyone help me with mount a fedora lvm ?
[04:57] <Kr4t05> brotakul: Oh...
[04:58] <spazz> Wonder if IPv6 will make bittorrent slow.
[04:58] <Kr4t05> brotakul: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:58] <spazz> or makes it*
[04:58] <lupine_85> spazz: it only affects DNS lookups
[04:58] <spazz> maybe should disable it. oh.
[04:58] <lupine_85> so, no, basically
[04:58] <brotakul> i already installed build-essential
[04:58] <Jucato> spazz: usually, if you don't use IPv6, it's a good idea to disable it...
[04:59] <Kr4t05> brotakul: pastebin the console output.
[04:59] <spazz> yea im going to eventuallytoday
[05:00] <brotakul> Kr4t05: i'm not compiling anything now, just wondering why i cant compile in general...
[05:00] <Jucato> has anyone noticed that that the Power Savings bug is back? the one that Power Saving resets to "enabled" and "30 minutes" after every reboot...
[05:00] <nicola> mp3 problem solved! Thank you very much!!
[05:01] <trappist> brotakul: you've installed build-essential and it says make isn't found?
[05:01] <brotakul> trappist: yes
[05:01] <Jucato> nicola: glad to hear that :-D
[05:02] <trappist> build-essential depends on make - that definitely shouldn't happen
[05:03] <trinhcong> hi
[05:03] <flaccid> rightio i have mounted it
[05:03] <flaccid> now i was a fedora kde guy and now am on kubuntu
[05:04] <flaccid> i have my /home/flaccid
[05:04] <flaccid> should i just copy it across and log back in and see if the .kde etc works?
[05:04] <cutepinkbunnies> anyone know where this qt4-designer went? I just installed it
[05:05] <Jucato> cutepinkbunnies: can't find it in K Menu?
[05:05] <MuJ> alt-f2 -> designer
[05:05] <Jucato> cutepinkbunnies: type this in Konsole: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the error messages)
[05:06] <cutepinkbunnies> ok that's done
[05:06] <cutepinkbunnies> its not in the k menu
[05:07] <Jucato> hmm..
[05:07] <cutepinkbunnies> ahh she's working now
[05:07] <cutepinkbunnies> thank you all
[05:07] <cozomo> Jucato: whenever I try to install a lot of things from kde-look, in the ./configure they always end with: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[05:07] <nagyv> I get an Error - KPanel message at every login. How could I find out where does it come from?
[05:08] <Jucato> cozomo: I'm not sure about that. I haven't tried installing KDE headers nor do I know where they are.. sorry
[05:08] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:09] <Jucato> have you tried asking where the KDE headers are?
[05:09] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:09] <flaccid> how can i mount so that my ubuntu user (flaccid:1000) can access the old fedora /home/flaccid which is flaccid:50 uid
[05:10] <flaccid> this didn't seem to work sudo mount -O uid=1000 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /mnt/fc3
[05:13] <redondo81> Hi, I downloaded a set of icon for my kde theme, but I don't know how to install theme, in the folder there's only a index.desktop file
[05:13] <redondo81> Hos can I install them?
[05:13] <ccc_> redondo81: system settings > appearance > icons... install the theme from there
[05:13] <Jucato> redondo81: did that icon them come in a .tar.gz file?
[05:14] <redondo81> yes
[05:14] <Jucato> redondo81: ok, first, don't extract it
[05:14] <Jucato> redondo81: now, go to System Settings > Appearance > Icons options then click on Install New Theme
[05:14] <redondo81> ok, all done, thank you very much
[05:15] <Jucato> that's kool (and fast)! :-D
[05:16] <rkd> when i attempt to use the python2.4-kde3 bindings to get a kfile.KURLRequester object, my program segfaults; any suggestions on what to do?
[05:18] <flaccid> possible to run Xvnc/vnc on :0 ?
[05:18] <flaccid> !sources
[05:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:19] <flaccid> !wizard
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wizard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <grothesk_> How do I update nvidia drivers? Or should I wait untill new kernel-modules are provides by ubuntu?
[05:19] <Jucato[Away] > grothesk_: better wait for it to become available through the repositories... unless you are feeling quite adventurous...
[05:19] <flaccid> hmm where is that source wizard
[05:20] <Jucato[Away] > flaccid: what source wizard?
[05:20] <lupine_85> you can install the onrd provided from the nvidia site, but they're a pain to keep updated
[05:20] <flaccid> generator sources.list
[05:20] <lupine_85> every time your kernel updates, you have to re-install
[05:20] <grothesk_> Jucato[Away] : Will they be available? I'm not so sure about it...
[05:20] <Jucato[Away] > !easysource
[05:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:20] <flaccid> thanks
[05:20] <trinhcong> please tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux
[05:20] <lupine_85> and occasionallu you get other, harder-to-fix, problems
[05:20] <grothesk_> lupine_85: I know that.
[05:20] <trinhcong> please tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux
[05:20] <Jucato[Away] > grothesk_: eventually they will, but probably not in Dapper, as Edgy is around the corner
[05:20] <trinhcong> please tell me how to start with Ubuntu? it's first time i try Linux
[05:21] <lupine_85> then what is your real question? :)
[05:21] <Jucato[Away] > hm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N with a tilde? @_@
[05:21] <lupine_85> trincong: download and burn a copy of the live cd
[05:21] <grothesk_> trinhcong: Read through the documentation...
[05:21] <trinhcong> i have setup unbutu
[05:22] <trinhcong> but i don't know how to run some application
[05:22] <grothesk_> trinhcong: So please ask something more specific.
[05:22] <trinhcong> how to setup some softwares?
[05:22] <trinhcong> for example, i want to play music
[05:23] <lupine_85> install and run amarok
[05:23] <lupine_85> use adept to install software
[05:23] <Jucato[Away] > (amarok is installed by default...)
[05:23] <lupine_85> oh, ok :)
[05:24] <Jucato[Away] > ^_^
[05:24] <Jucato[Away] > ok, I'm really away now... ^_^
[05:25] <flaccid> can you apt-get get a .deb for knetstats?
[05:25] <RawSewage> no
[05:25] <RawSewage> deb uses dpkg
[05:25] <flaccid> wondering if its in a source
[05:26] <RawSewage> did you try  apt-get knetstats
[05:26] <flaccid> yep
[05:26] <RawSewage> I mean  sudo apt-get install knetstats
[05:26] <flaccid> yeah
[05:26] <RawSewage> what happened
[05:27] <flaccid> doesn't exist
[05:27] <trinhcong> i can not use amaroK to play MP3 file :(
[05:27] <trinhcong> ??
[05:28] <RawSewage> theres knet
[05:28] <lupine_85> you need to install the mp3 codecs
[05:28] <lupine_85> try easyubuntu
[05:28] <lupine_85> !easyubuntu
[05:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:28] <RawSewage> flaccid, do you want:
[05:28] <RawSewage> A small application that docks in the systray and monitors the activity and
[05:28] <RawSewage> link status of the selected network interface. Supports session management.
[05:28] <RawSewage> Requires Linux 2.6.x.
[05:28] <flaccid> sounds like it thanks
[05:28] <flaccid> lets see
[05:29] <RawSewage> that would be  knetdockapp
[05:29] <RawSewage> for knet
[05:30] <RawSewage> flaccid, oh   http://knetstats.sourceforge.net/
[05:31] <RawSewage> just download the .deb from there
[05:31] <RawSewage> To get the packages via apt-get add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[05:31] <RawSewage> deb http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/ ./
[05:31] <RawSewage> deb-src http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/ ./
[05:31] <flaccid> ok thanks
[05:33] <flaccid> hmm 404 on those URLs
[05:34] <RawSewage> oh
[05:34] <flaccid> he must not have them there anymore
[05:34] <flaccid> http://www.0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/knetstats_1.3.1-1_i386.deb
[05:34] <RawSewage> Im not getting a 404
[05:34] <flaccid> really
[05:35] <RawSewage> I have it
[05:35] <RawSewage> it downloaded for me
[05:35] <flaccid> the link i pasted or http://0x5c.net/knetstats/debian/
[05:35] <RawSewage> the link you pasted
[05:35] <flaccid> yeah
[05:35] <RawSewage> the .deb downloaded
[05:35] <flaccid> but the deb src list is 404
[05:35] <RawSewage> oh
[05:36] <flaccid> all good
[05:36] <RawSewage> the last link was 404
[05:36] <RawSewage> I guess it needs a www.
[05:36] <flaccid> thats what i thought at first but the dir doesn't exist
[05:36] <flaccid> same host
[05:37] <RawSewage> weird
[05:37] <flaccid> yeah
[05:37] <flaccid> must of moved/deleted them
[05:37] <_martin> terminsal reports lpstat as a command not found... what am I missing or is currupt? is it cupsys?
[05:37] <RawSewage> but the deb is in that folder
[05:37] <flaccid> oh its the same directory
[05:37] <flaccid> wtf
[05:37] <flaccid> yeah
[05:37] <flaccid> lol
[05:38] <RawSewage> its a fake 404
[05:38] <RawSewage> I mean a custom page
[05:39] <RawSewage> no
[05:39] <RawSewage> oh well
[05:39] <trappist> !enter
[05:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:39] <flaccid> it outputs 404 weird
[05:39] <flaccid> if there was no index it would be forbidden
[05:41] <erik> anyone in here good at HTML?
[05:46] <flaccid> erik: yes
[05:46] <_martin> is lpstat a command with cupsys?
[05:47] <flaccid> !mp3
[05:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:47] <_martin> !lpstat
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lpstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <erik> flaccid: do you know how I make a file load automatically (not embedded in the web page, just as if you click on a file link) when viewing a html page
[05:48] <_martin> !cupsys
[05:48] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:52] <flaccid> erik: http post upload?
[05:52] <flaccid> mp3 support for amarok
[05:52] <flaccid> ?
[05:52] <lupine_85> depends which engine you're using
[05:52] <erik> flaccid: http post upload?
[05:53] <flaccid> erik: you would need to have a form
[05:53] <flaccid> even if its hidden
[05:53] <erik> ok
[05:53] <Jucato> flaccid: libxine-extracodecs
[05:53] <erik> thanx
[05:53] <flaccid> ty Jucato
[05:53] <lupine_85> try using xine and libxine-extracodecs
[05:53] <lupine_85> too slow :/
[05:53] <mackan> the extracodecs aint in the repos.. Download from google
[05:53] <mackan> (search with google and download from finding) :)
[05:53] <Jucato> mackan: they are in the repos
[05:54] <Jucato> you just need to enable multiverse
[05:54] <mackan> is that so
[05:55] <Jucato> mackan: yes
[05:55] <mackan> i didnt find em even if i did add the multiverse
[05:55] <Jucato> mackan: you probably enabled the wrong multiverse repositories
[05:55] <dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:55] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:55] <mackan> anyways its sold
[05:55] <mackan> solved*
[05:55] <mackan> Jucato: prob
[05:55] <maxush>  'start or install kubuntu' freezes my vm. anyone know why?
[05:56] <dr_willis> 'vm' ?
[05:56] <maxush> virtual machine
[05:56] <dr_willis> and which vm may this be?
[05:56] <maxush> VMware
[05:56] <soulrider> i got VMware
[05:56] <maxush> the workstation
[05:57] <maxush> i just downloaded the kubuntu install cd today
[05:57] <Jucato> hm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N with a tilde? @_@
[05:58] <Mehercle> 
[05:58] <dr_willis> !vmware
[05:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:58] <Jucato> Mehercle: yeah, that...
[05:58] <Mehercle> caps lock, and then place a 
[05:58] <Jucato> err...
[05:58] <dr_willis> Hmm..  not noticed a wiki for using ubnut under vmware yet. :P
[05:58] <Jucato> let me rephrase that....
[05:58] <Jucato> hm.. this is probably a silly question: how to I type the N/n with a tilde? @_@
[05:59] <maxush> i was hoping that vmware wasnt the problem
[05:59] <Jucato> there are available VMWare appliances for Kubuntu/Ubuntu...
[05:59] <maxush> hmm
[05:59] <Jucato> but I think the one for Kubuntu 6.06 is down...
[05:59] <Jucato> not really sure
[06:00] <maxush> well, memtest works.. but that's it
[06:01] <Jucato> Mehercle: how do I do that? T_T
[06:01] <Mehercle> Caps lock
[06:01] <Mehercle> and then press ~
[06:01] <Mehercle> and then press n
[06:01] <Jucato> ~n ?
[06:01] <Mehercle> no
[06:01] <Mehercle> 
[06:01] <Jucato> ~N
[06:01] <Mehercle> 
[06:01] <troy> Mehercle: only works on certain keyboard types
[06:01] <Jucato> Mehercle: I don't even know how to do the small one...
[06:02] <Mehercle> i hav a belgian keyboard
[06:02] <Jucato> oh...
[06:02] <Mehercle> azerty
[06:02] <Jucato> In Windows, I used to press Alt+164 or 165 for those characters...
[06:02] <soulrider> for what chars?
[06:02] <soulrider> for   ?
[06:02] <maxush> 
[06:03] <soulrider> ah
[06:03] <maxush> :p
[06:03] <soulrider> i got in it my keyboard :P
[06:03] <soulrider>  
[06:03] <Jucato> T_T
[06:03] <soulrider>  
[06:03] <soulrider> :P
[06:03] <Jucato> grrr
[06:03] <soulrider> but i dont have ~
[06:03] <soulrider> in widnows i make it with alt 126
[06:03] <soulrider> but i dunno if it works here
[06:03] <maxush> alright, i'm just gonna burn this disk and try it on my comp
[06:03] <troy> Jucato: there's a kde program that'll let you select those characters from a list, I'm looking for its name
[06:04] <soulrider> kcharselect
[06:04] <b0uncer> hi all..erm I can't seem to install any more packages using apt, after trying to install "taskjuggler", which can't even be removed anymore
[06:04] <troy> Jucato: apt-get install kcharselect
[06:04] <Jucato> troy: KCharSelect, I think?
[06:04] <soulrider> i got it istalled
[06:04] <Jucato> lol
[06:04] <soulrider> its like charmap in redmond
[06:04] <soulrider> anyways, im going! goodbye!
[06:04] <Jucato> can I use keyboard shortcuts there, instead of having to point and click?
[06:04] <troy> there is/was also a kicker applet that did the same thing (very nicely I might add), but I don't know where it's off to in kubuntu
[06:05] <b0uncer> if somebody has an idea how to kick apt so it removes the package..please tell
[06:05] <Mehercle> in package kicker-applets i guess
[06:05] <b0uncer> or any idea
[06:05] <fdoving> b0uncer: what package?
[06:06] <b0uncer> fdoving: taskjuggler
[06:06] <b0uncer> apt stopped installing it before it got finished, now it's telling me the package is "in a bad state" and refuses to do anything :/
[06:07] <b0uncer> I can't install it, remove it, purge nor update it. And I can't install any other software either
[06:07] <lupine_85> have you tried -f ?
[06:07] <fdoving> b0uncer: what about 'dpkg -P package' ?
[06:08] <RawSewage> do  sudo dpgk -a config
[06:08] <RawSewage> I think thats the command
[06:08] <b0uncer> fdoving: it's telling me this:
[06:08] <RawSewage> or is it dpkg config -a
[06:08] <b0uncer> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state
[06:08] <b0uncer> then asks me to reinstall it first -- which I cannot do, it spits an error
[06:08] <b0uncer> RawSewage: I already tried that
[06:09] <RawSewage> ok
[06:09] <fdoving> b0uncer: what error does it give when installing?
[06:10] <gan|y|med> hello
[06:11] <b0uncer> fdoving: first the normal stuff, then after unpacking "touch: missing file operand", a dpkg warning, touch-error again, then "error while cleaning up", and finally sub-process dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:11] <dr_willis_> yea... going through a ' Joys of windows moment.... wife wants YahooMessenger installed on this pc.. the thing  sort of runs.. then exits.. no message, no error... Joy' Heh
[06:12] <josh__> anyone know a good place to find a tutorial on setting up proftp?
[06:12] <fdoving> b0uncer: ok, then i don't know. i have to go, going out having a beer with my gf.
[06:12] <b0uncer> ok
[06:12] <gan|y|med> xine is damn slow here... is this a problem of the xserver update? my kernel is custom, but it is slow with the standard kernel, too. only totem works (what i don't understand, as i thought it uses xine as well). it is also not related to the fglrx module as it used to work with dapper in the beginning.
[06:12] <josh__> dr_willis_: just use kopete,gaim,centericq
[06:12] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[06:12] <b0uncer> thanks anyway
[06:12] <fdoving> josh__: proftpd.org maybe?
[06:12] <josh__> yeah i looked at that and its not what i was looking for
[06:13] <josh__> anyone used compiz on kubuntu?
[06:14] <b0uncer> josh__: I have
[06:14] <b0uncer> once
[06:14] <josh__> it work nice?
[06:14] <josh__> guess not lol
[06:14] <b0uncer> yeah, but you need a good gfx card
[06:14] <gan|y|med> nobody has problems playing videos with xine (no matter what frontend)?
[06:14] <b0uncer> it had some bugs but not anything "big"
[06:14] <Jucato> gan|y|med: no problems here....
[06:14] <b0uncer> gan|y|med: no, I just played dvds and mpeg videos ok
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I think that's what Skim is for.  I could be worong I have no idea how the Scim system works
[06:14] <boeroe_> hello new tu kubuntu. downloades gnupg and try to compile but there was no cc compiler
[06:14] <gan|y|med> used to work here too. i dont understand this
[06:14] <josh__> ok ill get compiz and see if it works better here then it did on my gnome desktop
[06:15] <boeroe_> where can i get the cc compiler
[06:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ok... I'll take a look into it... but it's kinda silly that I have to install a whole package just to be able to type 2 special characters...
[06:15] <b0uncer> josh__: what was your problem with gnome desktop + compiz?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It's there already
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Freedesktop.org
[06:15] <Jucato> oh yeah lol
[06:15] <boeroe_> i like to compile a gnupg source  but i have no cc compiler
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Check utilites
[06:15] <boeroe_> where do i get it?
[06:15] <flaccid> how to get dual display going for ati radeon
[06:16] <Jucato> boeroe_: install "build-essential"
[06:16] <dr_willis_> josh__,  but she wants the features that ONLY the official has... sadly
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Again honestly no one has explained itto me and I wish there was a good wiki page on it
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !skim
[06:16] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[06:16] <josh__> it didn't work right, it would always flip to the next screen (couldn't go halfway and look at 2 screens at once, half the plugins didn't work, etc.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !scim
[06:16] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[06:16] <gan|y|med> any ideas why i get all this stuff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21653
[06:16] <dr_willis_> josh__,  im not sure when Instant Messenging became "voice/video chatting"  :)
[06:16] <RawSewage> boeroe_, what about kgpg
[06:16] <boeroe_> jucato: is taht a shell command?
[06:16] <josh__> dr_willis what options is she looking for?
[06:16] <gan|y|med> it says xine-lib is not installed which is impossible
[06:16] <Jucato> DaSkreech:  isn't Skim for CJK only?
[06:16] <b0uncer> josh__: well it did work fine on my Gnome desktop, maybe it's not about the desktop but something else (hardware? drivers?)
[06:16] <josh__> just chat, or does she want video and all that too?
[06:16] <Jucato> boeroe_: no. look for the package in Adept
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Again never been explained to me
[06:16] <josh__> possibly
[06:17] <boeroe_> what is adep?
[06:17] <josh__> i was using ATI....
[06:17] <boeroe_> adept?
[06:17] <josh__> adept = apt-get
[06:17] <RawSewage> kgpg is good
[06:17] <Jucato> boeroe_: the Package Manager, what you use to install things
[06:17] <boeroe_> oke will check kpg
[06:17] <RawSewage> kgpg
[06:17] <RawSewage> not kpg
[06:17] <gan|y|med> josh__: the definition is a little bit simple, isn't it :)
[06:17] <josh__> lol
[06:18] <josh__> yeah just alittle :P
[06:18] <boeroe_> oke thx will try ap- get to will ahve to doenload it i think
[06:18] <josh__> no adept is your apt-get
[06:18] <josh__> its your package manager
[06:18] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install kgpg
[06:18] <gan|y|med> and simple again....
[06:18] <josh__> if you dont have that you dont have a debian based linux (kubuntu/ubuntu/debian/etc...)
[06:18] <josh__> lol
[06:19] <josh__> boeroe_: what are u trying to do/get?
[06:19] <boeroe_> oke so sudo apt-get install kpg is the command ...
[06:19] <RawSewage> no
[06:19] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install kgpg
[06:19] <gan|y|med> please, could anybody have a look at this if you have some time for some 5 fps stressed student: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21653
[06:19] <boeroe_> ok thx rawSewage
[06:19] <josh__> what am i about to be looking at  gan|y|med
[06:20] <josh__> what are you trying to do? install xine?
[06:20] <gan|y|med> okay, again:
[06:20] <gan|y|med> what i am trying: to watch anything at all.
[06:20] <Jellegant> hey, room.
[06:20] <josh__> gotcha
[06:21] <josh__> ok, do a sudo apt-get install xine-totem
[06:21] <gan|y|med> what i am getting: 2fps (that's optimistic!). except i play a video with totem, what i don't understand.
[06:21] <josh__> then do the sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:21] <josh__> u might also want to get the gstreamer plugins too
[06:22] <Jellegant> hey, I did a fresh kubuntu dapper install and now I need help getting online.  I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant working.
[06:22] <gan|y|med> i have done all this. look at the link, please. xine-check complains about xine not being installed
[06:22] <josh__> do a "locate gxine"
[06:23] <josh__> do you see one in your /usr/share/ directry?
[06:23] <gan|y|med> josh__: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/gxine.desktop
[06:23] <gan|y|med> josh__: /usr/share/app-install/icons/gxine.png
[06:23] <gan|y|med> that's all
[06:23] <josh__> then its not installed
[06:23] <gan|y|med> i have already reinstalled, nothing works. extracodecs is installed
[06:24] <josh__> you should have a /usr/share/gxine file
[06:24] <gan|y|med> but i think it has sth. to do with the x server
[06:24] <josh__> nope
[06:24] <gan|y|med> why?
[06:24] <gan|y|med> i am using kaffeine, normally
[06:24] <josh__> if you dont have /usr/share/gxine, you dont have it installed
[06:24] <gan|y|med> but isn't gxine just a frontend...
[06:24] <josh__> yeah it is
[06:25] <gan|y|med> but i have xinelib-main1
[06:25] <josh__> do sudo apt-get install gxine
[06:26] <fallendamnation> hello?
[06:26] <josh__> hello
[06:26] <fallendamnation> Anyone know how to get WMV to work with Kaffeine?
[06:26] <gan|y|med> ok, i am. but what's the point of having backends and frontends if you have to install both anyway (and i am not using gnome)
[06:26] <b0uncer> taskjuggler-problem solved...just found a forum page from the community, somebody had taken a closer look and found out the post-remove script of taskjuggler is crap
[06:26] <Jucato> fallendamnation: install the w32codecs
[06:26] <josh__> apt-get install w32codecs
[06:26] <b0uncer> thanks for everyone, and good bye \o
[06:26] <Jucato> josh__: it aint in the repos
[06:27] <Jucato> !w32codecs > fallendamnation
[06:27] <josh__> Jucato: you have to add the repos multiverse and universe
[06:27] <fallendamnation> i just got Kubuntu yesterday
[06:27] <Jucato> josh__: still not there. trust me
[06:27] <fallendamnation> got fed up with windows
[06:27] <josh__> !easysource
[06:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:27] <josh__> go there and add all the repos
[06:27] <DaSkreech> fallendamnation: Sooo you fell into damnation?
[06:27] <Jucato> josh__: source-o-matic will add the PLF repos, and it's there
[06:27] <Jucato> but not in Ubuntu's repos
[06:27] <gan|y|med> i dont get this, i have removed xine-ui and now xine-check is missing
[06:27] <fallendamnation> yep could not stand windows any longer
[06:28] <josh__> you removed the xine-ui?
[06:28] <fallendamnation> jeez cant believe how well kubuntu runs
[06:28] <josh__> or the apt-get install gxine removed it?
[06:28] <Jellegant> fallen, you said you just installed?
[06:28] <fallendamnation> yes
[06:29] <Jellegant> do you have 'nix experience?
[06:29] <fallendamnation> having problems with flash as well
[06:29] <fallendamnation> with windows yes
[06:29] <Jellegant> what's the flash issue?
[06:29] <fallendamnation> well im not sure how to install it
[06:29] <Jellegant> AHA!
[06:29] <Jellegant> okay.
[06:30] <Jellegant> I can help.
[06:30] <josh__> apt-get install gset-compiz
[06:30] <fallendamnation> is it compatible with konquerer?
[06:30] <Jellegant> you have a few options.
[06:30] <Jellegant> I don't use konquerer.
[06:30] <Jellegant> I use firefox.
[06:30] <gan|y|med> josh__: damn slow. nothing has changed
[06:30] <fallendamnation> i used firefox as well
[06:31] <josh__> hmm...
[06:31] <fallendamnation> well firefox and maxthon
[06:31] <josh__> lemme look at something
[06:31] <Jellegant> fallen:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:32] <josh__> ok gan|y|med, youve installed gxine and the w32codecs right?
[06:32] <lupine_85> it's compatible
[06:32] <josh__> the the locate gxine
[06:32] <josh__> make sure gxine is in the /usr/share directory
[06:33] <josh__> where can i find the gset-compiz?
[06:33] <gan|y|med> w32codecs = xine-etracodecs, right?
[06:33] <Tokeiito> !paste
[06:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:33] <Jucato> gan|y|med: no
[06:34] <josh__> nope
[06:34] <gan|y|med> : /usr/share/gxine
[06:34] <Jellegant> hey, people, anybody know about Wpa-Supplicant?
[06:34] <josh__> w32codecs are the .avi,mp3,mpeg,etc...
[06:34] <josh__> ok go to multimedia and click on gxine
[06:34] <gan|y|med> i know that i have installed them manually, and i have not removed them
[06:35] <Jucato> josh__: err... w32codecs are WMA/WMV, MOV, RM...
[06:35] <josh__> try playing a video, tell me what the error says when you try to open something (if there is one
[06:35] <Tokeiito> can it be problems with CD format? :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21656
[06:35] <josh__> Jucato: doesn't that also have the avi, mp3 and stuff?
[06:35] <josh__> r is that only the non-free w32codecs?
[06:36] <Jucato> josh__: libxine-extracodecs (in Kubuntu) handles the mp3 and mpeg and AVI stuff
[06:36] <josh__> ahh
[06:36] <larson9999> you can put about: ???? in the url in mozilla to edit a configuration file but i can't remember what it is.  anyone here know?
[06:36] <gan|y|med> there is no error message it is just damn slow
[06:36] <lupine_85> about:config ?
[06:36] <gan|y|med> 70 % cpu time
[06:36] <josh__> .....
[06:37] <josh__> whats your cpu specs?
[06:37] <lupine_85> libxine-extracodecs ?>
[06:37] <josh__> your not like running a p 2 with 64 meg of ram are u? lol
[06:37] <gan|y|med> enough. i used to work flawlessly, again, i think it is related to an x server upgrade. (just for the records: pentium m 1.86, fglrx)
[06:37] <Jucato> josh__: libxine-extracodecs is the non-free codecs package for Kubuntu
[06:38] <gan|y|med> 1 gig of mem
[06:38] <larson9999> lupine_85: thanks.  i knew it was easy.  by the way, got any idea what something like that wouldn't be easier to find in the documentation?  imo it should even be something you get to from the menu
[06:38] <josh__> oh ok Jucato
[06:38] <josh__> lol lupine_85
[06:38] <lupine_85> usable documentation? Not likely...
[06:38] <gan|y|med> i have no vx support (never had)
[06:38] <josh__> gan, when was the last time you did a apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <gan|y|med> never
[06:39] <larson9999> lupine_85: heck i remember when a friend got a computer with 256k ram thinking that was a ton of ram.
[06:39] <gan|y|med> i mean, i us adept or synaptic
[06:39] <josh__> lol i remember when no one thought we would need more then 16k of ram.... lol
[06:39] <gan|y|med> they do the same i know
[06:39] <lupine_85> argh, beaten! ;)
[06:39] <josh__> ok do the apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade
[06:39] <josh__> just to make sure
[06:40] <larson9999> i still use my c64 almost daily
[06:40] <gan|y|med> on tuesday i upgraded to the broken xorg-server package. afterwards upgraded to the one that is supposed to work
[06:40] <intelikey> what am i missing in ubuntu isn't there supposed to be a way to adjust gdm settings graphicly ?
[06:40] <josh__> lol
[06:40] <Tokeiito> how to fix this: [17181115.420000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:40] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  heh - if ya need any parts i got plenty for C64's
[06:40] <gan|y|med> ok, is this what adept does?
[06:41] <gan|y|med> i don't wanna risk becoming a beta tester :)
[06:41] <gan|y|med> not with this pc
[06:41] <josh__> yeah basically, i just never use the adept manager so im not sure or its capabilities (i like the commandline better)
[06:41] <larson9999> dr_willis_: i'm all set with stock c64 stuff.  got any ram extentions, or 3rd party hardware?
[06:41] <troy> gan|y|med: it was a broken package, not a broken adept
[06:41] <gan|y|med> i haven't said anything like this...
[06:42] <troy> intelikey: yes, for kdm there is - have no clue about gdm
[06:42] <Jucato> gan|y|med: no. it's not something with Adept. there was really a broken upgrade which was replaced by a fixed one 12 hours later
[06:42] <gan|y|med> so it means get the packages.gz and update all available packages, right?
[06:42] <gan|y|med> again, i haven't said anything about a broken adept!
[06:43] <intelikey> i wonder why it's not showing up in gnome-control-center ???
[06:43] <gan|y|med> i know it was the package. and i appreciate the quick response (have been windows user for years)
[06:43] <troy> intelikey: you'd probably want to ask in #ubuntu... #kubuntu is kde related stuff :)
[06:44] <josh__> intelikey: why what isn't showing up where?
[06:44] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  Hmm.. i got a card extender. that lets ya have 4 cards pluged in  and switch between them
[06:44] <intelikey> and yes i know that's a #ubuntu question.   but i haven't be in #ubuntu sense they banned me for answering questions.
[06:44] <Jucato> gan|y|med: I thought you were asking about "if that is what Adept does" in relation to what happened. sorry
[06:44] <intelikey> be/been
[06:44] <gan|y|med> so what is xine-config?
[06:44] <anaskius> hello can you help me which one i should install 64 bit kubuntu or 32 bit?
[06:44] <josh__> the configuration for gxine
[06:44] <Jucato> intelikey: they banned you for answering questions?
[06:44] <Jellegant> 32bit.
[06:44] <josh__> anaskius: u have a 64 bit processor?
[06:44] <troy> anaskius: 64bit, because the more people that use it, the better it'll be
[06:44] <anaskius> yes
[06:45] <josh__> then 64
[06:45] <intelikey> josh__ anything dealing with the login greeter gdm thingy
[06:45] <gan|y|med> anaskius: is your hardware 64 bit based (like athlon 64)?
[06:45] <anaskius> but ive heard it has its problems
[06:45] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  i got some of the origianl GEOS software still shrinkwrapped. :)
[06:45] <josh__> intelikey: that is kinda general there bud... what exactly are we talking about?
[06:45] <larson9999> dr_willis_: navarone?
[06:45] <Jellegant> I have an amd 64 and I use the 32 bit.
[06:45] <troy> anaskius: however, you may have problems with certain things on occasion where there exists only 32bit software for linux (especially proprietary programs/plugins)
[06:45] <intelikey> Jucato yeah with the answer that wasn't the *ubutnu* way
[06:45] <Jucato>  @_@
[06:45] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  not sure - its some rather rough looking  expansion card. :P that ive never used.. I may have a CPM cartridge also.
[06:45] <gan|y|med> xine-config???? any ideas? this thing make me crazy...
[06:45] <dr_willis_> but no software for it.
[06:45] <larson9999> dr_willis_: the value on geos went down since the released for free as in free beer
[06:46] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  value means nothing to me. :p
[06:46] <gan|y|med> well, there are two updates available, none of which is related to X
[06:46] <intelikey> josh__ any way to change it.   there is no mentions of it
[06:46] <troy> anaskius: I am using the 64 bit version right now with no problems :)
[06:46] <anaskius> thanks bye
[06:46] <Jellegant> that was quick.
[06:46] <Jellegant> troy, seriously?
[06:47] <intelikey> josh__ how would you enable/disable timed login in gdm ?
[06:47] <josh__> u want to change the login screen huh.... only way i know about doing that is through the gnome panel in ubuntu, when you log in (you have both dekstop versions right?) do a sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[06:47] <Tokeiito> doese linux support joilet CD format?
[06:47] <intelikey> or automatic login ?
[06:47] <josh__> .... dont know about that
[06:47] <josh__> never tried it
[06:47] <Jellegant> you set progs like firefox to 32 bit?  does 64 run any better than 32?
[06:47] <troy> Jellegant: yeah... the only thing that gave me a headache was flash, and after some tinkering, I discovered that unlike firefox, 32bit flash can work with 64bit konq :)
[06:48] <Jellegant> hmmmm.....
[06:48] <larson9999> dr_willis_: have you seen the things they are still doing with the c64?  hard drives, 20cpu, high speed internet, newer gui, cdrom drive,  just about any drive actually.
[06:48] <Jellegant> but I like firefox.
[06:48] <troy> so I never use firefox :) (no website problems in konq)
[06:48] <troy> used to have problems with gmail - not anymore...
[06:48] <Jellegant> do you use wine to emulate internet explorer?
[06:48] <troy> no
[06:48] <Jellegant> k.
[06:48] <Jellegant> --> site designer.
[06:48] <intelikey> well i'll do it the intelikey way rather than the *buntu way.   i'll edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.    thanks for the time of day josh__
[06:49] <troy> I have 32bit opera kicking around which I use without problems either
[06:49] <Jucato> the new Browser Identification Firefox 1.5.0.4 for Konqueror works perfectly with Gmail
[06:49] <troy> Jucato: exactly :)
[06:49] <intelikey> i just expected a gui way to get there....
[06:49] <josh__> intelikey: no problem, sory i couldn't help more
[06:50] <intelikey> np  and ty for trying.
[06:50] <troy> Jellegant: I have an old windows computer for testing IE6 renderings
[06:50] <troy> (and playing the odd game)
[06:51] <gan|y|med> could anybody please check if you have any xine executable (like xine, xine-check, xine-config)?
[06:52] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  i just use the emulators to play the old games. :P  i got an Emulator for my GP32 handheld even. Portable MULE
[06:52] <Jucato> gan|y|med: nope...
[06:52] <Skrot> gan|y|med: xine            xine-bugreport  xine-check      xine-config     xine-remote
[06:52] <Jucato> gan|y|med: I don't think they're in the default repos?
[06:52] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  did that C=One ever start production yet?
[06:52] <Jucato> hm.. I don't have those xine's...
[06:52] <troy> gan|y|med: I don't - just the xine libs for using kaffeine :)
[06:53] <larson9999> dr_willis_: i've been thinking about getting a gp for years.  i guess you'd say it's worth it?
[06:53] <Jucato> actually, xine libs for everything..
[06:54] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  theres a new gp version out thats running linux.. but it still seems pricey. and sort of bla compared to a PSP... PLUS im not sure how 'hackable' it is. The GP guys seem to have a lacking of understanding in  the GPL licsneing they are using. They dont want to release any specs
[06:54] <gan|y|med> troy: works?
[06:54] <gan|y|med> Skrot: where do you have those from?
[06:54] <intelikey> jucato you asked about the 'ban'    someone asked about a root shell,  someone else said  sudo -i     so i gave an alternate means as my habbit is.  sudo su -     and this know it all jerk, starts in on me for giving bad advice and says that they are not the same.  so i cnallenged his claim.  i said i know it uses an extra app and has a few more key strokes but gets you to the same place blah blah blah...  and the fight was
[06:54] <Skrot> gan|y|med: no idea :)
[06:54] <gan|y|med> now i have mesa again... argh
[06:54] <troy> gan|y|med: yeah :)
[06:54] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  the older gp32 i got running VICE ok, on. but its a bit of a pain.
[06:55] <intelikey> intelikey do you want to stay in #ubuntu.    i answered 'not with you'   and left.  havent been back sense.
[06:55] <larson9999> dr_willis_: the c=one did make it to production and about half the first run are sold.  the problem is there is a riff between jeri(creator) and jens(backer).  basically not much what jeri promised has happened.  my guess it that it's due to jeri going off and doing other projects.
[06:55] <Jucato> oh... I thought they really banned you /kickban...
[06:55] <intelikey> not that it matters   just answering your question. Jucato
[06:55] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  bummer.. thats the only C= project out isent it? or is there another?
[06:55] <intelikey> they did ban me
[06:56] <Jucato> intelikey: hehehe! well, they "might" now the answers to your question about GDM...
[06:56] <intelikey> i checked it.  it stood baned for over a week
[06:56] <ubnoob> i changed my keyboard layout and now can't do an 'at' and i can't get it back to default
[06:56] <gan|y|med> how can the fglrx module disappear suddenly?
[06:56] <larson9999> dr_willis_: that's the only one i know of.  if it came to fruition i'd sell all my CMD stuff and buy on.  as it is i don't know if i will.
[06:56] <troy> dr_willis_: what irc software are you using? (it keeps inserting C =  into the middle of your lines)
[06:56] <intelikey> err banned
[06:57] <dr_willis_> C=one = the  name of the "Commodore One' :)
[06:57] <dr_willis_> C=   is the Commodore Logo.
[06:57] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:57] <dr_willis_> Ya young Pup!
[06:57] <Jucato> lol
[06:57] <Jucato> you're basically referring to many peole here dr_willis_ ^_^
[06:57] <troy> dr_willis_: you have it set up to randomly insert it meow into what you meow type?
[06:57] <larson9999> dr_willis_: but given the fact that i just bought an amd64 3500 machine with 200gb hd, nice tv tuner, dvd burner, 1 gig ram, etc for $350 i don't know i could justify paying as much or more for the c-one
[06:58] <blackflag> hello all :)
[06:58] <Tokeiito> i can read my cd on win, but in kubuntu i'm gettin this error: [17181115.420000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format. How to fix it?
[06:58] <blackflag> Can someone tell me how I can edit a PDF-file?
[06:58] <dr_willis_> larson9999,  from what i am seing of the GPx2 - its nice in that it can play videos.  but my PSP can do that..  The GPx2 price seems a little steep.
[06:58] <blackflag> which software can do that?
[06:58] <fallendamnation> having problems installing easy ubuntu
[06:59] <larson9999> dr_willis_: well i'm doing my best not to by sony
[06:59] <flaccid> how to install additional fonts including msttcorefonts ?
[06:59] <troy> blackflag: try opening it in kword :)
[06:59] <Tokeiito> flaccid: try to use automatix tool
[06:59] <nagyv> I would like to download images from a Canon Powershot SD400. I can connect to it in PTP mode with Gwenview, but the download always fails. What should I do?
[06:59] <dr_willis_> troy the name of the device is called the "C= One"  in most of the message boards/discussions i see. and thats how im using it. :)
[06:59] <zeroconf> I don't suggest automatix
[06:59] <Jucato> hm...  would anyone happen to know when KWord will have save/export to MS Doc?
[06:59] <zeroconf> I suggest Easyubuntu
[06:59] <Jucato> lol!!
[07:00] <Tokeiito> zeroconf: why?
[07:00] <Jucato> somebody give dr_willis_ his meds...
[07:00] <gan|y|med> okay, have to restart x. thx an dcu
[07:00] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:00] <zeroconf> I have negative experience with automatix
[07:00] <ubnoob> could someone tell me his xkb options?
[07:00] <flaccid> automatix tool?
[07:00] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:00] <zeroconf> and Easyubuntu does not change anything in your system
[07:00] <dr_willis_> zeroconf,  negative as in Trashing the sytem. :P then everyone refuseing to even attempt help .
[07:00] <zeroconf> USB were broken with automatix
[07:01] <Jucato> zeroconf: it does... it has to change the sources.list in order to install stuff, AFAIK
[07:01] <Jellegant> sigh.
[07:01] <blackflag> okay I open the pdf with kword but it is empty then?
[07:02] <zeroconf> easyubuntu does not change nothing but if you want, it may add additional repositories
[07:02] <blackflag> what shoud I try?
[07:02] <gan|y|med> hello again
[07:02] <gan|y|med> i have installed the fglrx module. i get 2 fps. i am not kidding.
[07:02] <troy> blackflag: hrmm, some pdfs are a little to new/advanced for kword... dunno what else to try ...
[07:02] <Jucato> zeroconf: how does it install the proprietary codecs/plugins if it doesn't modify the sources.list?
[07:02] <m`kay_ubunux> hi guys. i try since a few days to install the proprietary ati drivers, and it doesnt works. can someone help me please...
[07:02] <troy> gan|y|med: what are you using to benchmark?
[07:03] <blackflag> okay, thanks!
[07:03] <gan|y|med> my eyes
[07:03] <Jucato> lol
[07:03] <nagyv> I would like to download images from a Canon Powershot SD400. I can connect to it in PTP mode with Gwenview, but the download always fails. What should I do?
[07:03] <zeroconf> I don't know but I suppose, it has its own built-in repositories
[07:03] <gan|y|med> basically, it is a still picture changing from time to time, like web cam i would say. it is AWEFUL
[07:04] <usuario> hi there,
[07:04] <Jucato> zeroconf: apt-get will only read from sources.list. if easyubuntu has an online repository somewhere, it wil stilly have to modify sources.list to include that repository.
[07:04] <ubnoob> could someone tell me his xkb options?
[07:04] <gan|y|med> m`kay_ubunux: download the latest installer scripts from ati and do a sudo sh <installerscript>.sh
[07:05] <gan|y|med> okay, totem still works. everything xine relate doesn't. what am i doing wrong?
[07:05] <troy> gan|y|med: run glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[07:05] <zeroconf> but after easyubuntu usage is the sources.list as it was before Easyubuntu usage - perhaps it makes backup and temporary writes its own additional repositories into it - it's just guessing
[07:06] <Jucato> troy: there's a switch/option like that?
[07:06] <troy> I get 3164.770 FPS with fglrx
[07:06] <gan|y|med> bow, fluent but slow... not like it used to be with fglrx
[07:06] <zeroconf> actually I joined here to ask about HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner issue - is it possible to get work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.0
[07:07] <gan|y|med> it is like drinking tea
[07:07] <m`kay_ubunux> gan|y|med: i have done this. but its not really 3dsupported
[07:07] <reagleBRKLN> when kde automounts an external drive how/where can i suggest mount options (e..g, sync or nosync)?
[07:07] <troy> gan|y|med: what FPS does it give you in the konsole?
[07:07] <zeroconf> this scanner worked fine in Edubuntu 5.10
[07:07] <Jellegant> anybody know if I can install knetworkmanager off the cd?
[07:07] <Mehercle> hi
[07:07] <gan|y|med> none, no output... there should be one
[07:07] <reagleBRKLN> i know it will create and mount it to /media/wd1200
[07:07] <reagleBRKLN> (the volume label)
[07:07] <gan|y|med> now i am realy confused
[07:07] <Mehercle> whats the command to view the info about my distro?
[07:07] <Mehercle> developer, release, ..
[07:07] <Jucato> gan|y|med: I think you have to wait for a few seconds before it produces output?
[07:08] <troy> gan|y|med: did you use the full command I gave you? (you need it to see FPS, plus wait 5 seconds)
[07:08] <Jucato> Mehercle: try "lsb_release -a"
[07:08] <zeroconf> mehercle: use cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:08] <Mehercle> Jucato: Thanks
[07:08] <bashee> join /xubuntu
[07:08] <troy> without the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark switch, you won't get FPS anymore :)
[07:08] <Guest543> Hi this Frank. I'm trying to get a Notebook w/ a RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ Ethernetcontroler to get connected to the network. card works fine on Suse10.1, Knoppix, DSL, M$. Any idea?
[07:08] <gan|y|med> no, but it used to work without this. i am trying again
[07:09] <ubnoob> could someone tell me his xkb options, my right alt key doesn't work properly anymore?
[07:09] <gan|y|med> 4862.598 FPS
[07:09] <zeroconf> actually I joined here to ask about HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner issue - is it possible to get work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.0
[07:09] <gan|y|med> good joke
[07:09] <Jucato> troy: doesn't "glxgears -printfps" do the same thing?
[07:09] <LeeJunFan> couple questions - 1. The kubuntu DVD can boot both desktop or alternate methods right? And clamscan is in the live image?
[07:09] <troy> Jucato: yeah, but this way is more fun :)
[07:09] <gan|y|med> hahha
[07:10] <Jucato> troy: ehehe! and you were saying "dead serious"....
[07:10] <gan|y|med> so what do you say about nearly 5000fps. stupid, isn't it (the gears are veeeerrrryyyyy slow)
[07:10] <reagleBRKLN> when kde automounts an external drive how/where can i suggest mount options (e..g, sync or nosync)? what is even doing the automounting?
[07:10] <gan|y|med> the automounter?
[07:10] <nagyv> reagleBRKLN: you have tu write you own udev rules
[07:11] <gan|y|med> just a joke, isn't this a daemon
[07:11] <troy> reagleBRKLN: udev and hal :)
[07:11] <mefiX> hi!
[07:11] <reagleBRKLN> so i should go look at the docs for udev. ok!
[07:11] <mefiX> can i use pcf-fonts in 'konsole'?
[07:11] <gan|y|med> troy: so what do you say?
[07:11] <mefiX> is there anybody that has yome experiences with fonts in konsole
[07:11] <Jellegant> ...
[07:11] <troy> gan|y|med: I say that 3d is working fine... you probably have some 2D issues (but I couldn't tell you where)
[07:12] <mefiX> i would like to install pcf-fonts from the following site: http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download
[07:12] <ironfroggy> is there an easy script anywhere that will setup automount for my samba shares? im not getting the configuration right, and its silly that i have anything to configure in the first place.
[07:12] <gan|y|med> xserver
[07:12] <ironfroggy> if the kioslave fuse was more stable, i would just use that.
[07:12] <troy> gan|y|med: well, that much is certain :)
[07:13] <gan|y|med> troy: how do i get xv support working?
[07:13] <zeroconf> Does anybody know, ho to get HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner to work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.0
[07:13] <troy> gan|y|med: dunno about that, don't use it :/
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> troy: you have fglrx?
[07:13] <gan|y|med> and xine works?
[07:13] <troy> LeeJunFan: yeah, on amd64, and xine works
[07:13] <nagyv> reagleBRKLN: yes something like that, I was googling for a week to get all the info. The main points: the automounter mount the devices under their device name, so you will need to change the name (an alias is not enough), 2) the main task is to identify the device the udev way. 3) a good start can be the ubuntu user's guide available at O'Reilly (it wasn't enough for my partitioned disk)
[07:13] <Guest543> anyone out there w/ installing experience Kubuntu 6.06 and rtl 8139 Ethernet controler?
[07:13] <LeeJunFan> troy: just a sec, theres a line or 2 to add to xorg.conf
[07:14] <troy> LeeJunFan: direct it to gan|y|med, he's the one with the problem :)
[07:14] <Jellegant> anyone with wpa experience?
[07:14] <nagyv> I would like to download the images from a Canon Powershot SD400, but it is autodetected as a different machine, and the manual selection doesn't work. (Manually I can select only a non-PTP mode.) Could someone help me?
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> gan|y|med: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21660 ---- add the last 2 lines in this section to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[07:15] <gan|y|med> thx. i think it is dri related
[07:15] <gan|y|med> i'll try that
[07:16] <Jellegant> mefix, can you help me?
[07:16] <mefiX> perhaps, just ask
[07:16] <mefiX> which card you got?
[07:16] <Jellegant> altheros.
[07:16] <Jellegant> it's autoconfigured.
[07:16] <mefiX> wooha, will buy a atheros-card the next month
[07:16] <mefiX> arp-injection, eh?
[07:17] <Jellegant> ?
[07:17] <Jellegant> no idea.
[07:17] <mefiX> nothin' ... =)
[07:17] <zeroconf> Does anybody know, ho to get HP ScanJet 5P SCSI scanner to work - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8244.0   In Edubuntu 5.10 it worked fine....
[07:17] <mefiX> hmk for atheros, ou need the madwifi drivers
[07:17] <Jellegant> mefiX, are you using ndiswrapper?
[07:17] <gan|y|med> LeeJunFan: well, konqueror is damn slow two (graphics), as kde is in general i think. but why opengl overlay off?
[07:17] <josh__> anyone have compiz installed?
[07:17] <mefiX> ndiswrapper kinda sucks
[07:17] <josh__> i cant seem to find the gset-compiz
[07:18] <Jellegant> agreed.
[07:18] <mefiX> you will not be able to use all features of your card-chip
[07:18] <josh__> the package doesn't seem to exist
[07:18] <Jellegant> let me ask, did you install knetworkmanager?
[07:18] <troy> zeroconf: try the message forums - although irc is usually faster if it's an obvious problem, if no one knows you can wait forever...
[07:18] <Jellegant> do you remember how you got wpa_supplicant working?
[07:18] <mefiX> at first you need the correct drivers to get your card running
[07:19] <mefiX> if so .. you need wpa_supplicant
[07:19] <nagyv> I would like to download the images from a Canon Powershot SD400, but it is autodetected as a different machine, and the manual selection doesn't work. (Manually I can select only a non-PTP mode.) Could someone help me?
[07:19] <Jellegant> mefix, the card is autocoinfigured.  madwifi did it.
[07:19] <josh__> crap... how do i change system font size?
[07:19] <mefiX> teh you would have to edit the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:19] <josh__> my screen just went from 1024X768 to 1600X1200
[07:19] <josh__> i can barely see anything
[07:20] <mefiX> imho there are some good examples in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.sampe (or smth like that)
[07:20] <mefiX> the easiest way is WPA-PSK (wide spread for home users)
[07:20] <Jellegant> wpa_supplicant is included in dapper, and I did edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf with the information I got from running  wpa_passphrase.
[07:20] <mefiX> k
[07:20] <zeroconf> troy: where can I find message forums?
[07:21] <mefiX> then you would need to start the wpa_supplicant daemon
[07:21] <mefiX> wpa_supplicant -i IF -B -D DRIVER -c CONFIGFILE
[07:21] <Jellegant>  sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[07:21] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Why aren't you buying sony?
[07:21] <mefiX> looks good
[07:21] <Jellegant> okay.
[07:21] <josh__> alittle help here guys...
[07:21] <troy> zeroconf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:22] <Jellegant> then I saw " Trying to associate with..."
[07:22] <zeroconf> troy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1421275
[07:22] <Jellegant> and it completed.  it looked good, but I couldn't get online.
[07:22] <mefiX> hmk
[07:22] <mefiX> is dhcpcd running=
[07:22] <mefiX> dhclient ath0 -q
[07:23] <Jellegant> I didn't do that...
[07:23] <mefiX> check that your associated correct with "iwconfig ath0"
[07:23] <mefiX> it should tell smth like "mode: 802.11x"
[07:23] <mefiX> managed ...
[07:24] <Jellegant> btw, i downloaded wpagui.
[07:24] <larson9999> DaSkreech: rootkit
[07:24] <Jellegant> it can't see my card.
[07:24] <josh__> how do  change font size? screen res?
[07:24] <mefiX> hmmm didn't use this before
[07:24] <DaSkreech> So you think they will rootkit the PSP?
[07:24] <larson9999> DaSkreech: no.  just any company that installs a rootkit is one i don't want to do business with
[07:25] <gan|y|med> cu
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Ok reasonable
[07:25] <Jellegant> let me try that.
[07:25] <Jellegant> gimme a sec.
[07:27] <josh__> where can i get the gset-compiz package from?
[07:27] <josh__> what repo?
[07:27] <A|i3N> mornin` mornin` mornin` hey anybody know either: the best gameboy emulator for kubuntu, OR a linux version of Qix?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[07:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:27] <josh__> :) thanks
[07:28] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, josh__: it not in the repos no more
[07:28] <Jucato> the only gameboy emulator I know for Linux is VisualBoy Advance
[07:28] <josh__> where can i get it?
[07:28] <Jucato> and it's front end, VBA Express
[07:28] <josh__> i need to change settings
[07:28] <DShepherd> josh__: http://anasofiapaixao.iespana.es/apps/gset-compiz_0.3.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb.tar.gz
[07:28] <josh__> and i have got to change the screen res... where do i do that?
[07:28] <DShepherd> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1371386 <-- found it here
[07:29] <josh__> DShepherd: i need an english one lol
[07:29] <A|i3N> alright I'll check that one out
[07:29] <DShepherd> josh__: its not english???
[07:29] <josh__> it might be... im just looking at the iespana.es web addy
[07:29] <josh__> makes me think its in spanish
[07:30] <DShepherd> oh.. ok.. check it out first.. if its not english then we will go digging
[07:30] <DShepherd> ;-)
[07:30] <josh__> :P
[07:33] <mefiX> Jellegant: working?
[07:35] <chris___> amarok no me reproduce mp3, que puedo hacer ?
[07:36] <mefiX> chris___: english?
[07:36] <chris___> i have a problem with amarok
[07:37] <mefiX> had one the whole last day!
[07:37] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:37] <mefiX> it doesn't play mp3?
[07:37] <chris___> yes
[07:37] <mefiX> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:37] <chris___> o thanks =)
[07:37] <mefiX> hf, gl
[07:38] <josh__> where can i get gset-compiz again?
[07:38] <DaSkreech> !es
[07:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:41] <flaccid> !source-o-matic
[07:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:42] <GazzaK> is there a way to disable Konqueror completely? (I have set firefox as the default but xchat still launches URL's in it)
[07:42] <Jellegant> dhclient ath0 -q
[07:42] <Jellegant> then dhclient ath0 -q
[07:42] <Jellegant> "iwconfig ath0"
[07:43] <Jellegant> okay.
[07:43] <DaSkreech> apt-get remove konqueror --purge
[07:45] <GazzaK> DaSkreech~ are you sure, it says that will also remove kubuntu-desktop (as well as some konqueror specific media players)
[07:45] <GazzaK> that sounds weird to me
[07:45] <jellegan1> I logged onto another computer so I could try and figure this out.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: Oh no it will screw your system but if you want to do it ...
[07:45] <fdoving> removing kubuntu-desktop isn't as bad as it sounds.
[07:46] <GazzaK> lol, I only want to get it so xchat will launch url's in firefox, not konq :p
[07:47] <DaSkreech> GazzaK: Doesxchat have settings?
[07:47] <GazzaK> it has a URL Handler setting, but just putting firefox in it does nothing, the app won't launch
[07:47] <che_> hi,  somebody use Cedega on Kubuntu ?
[07:48] <dr_willis_> che_,  i have befor. :)
[07:49] <jellegan1> still having wpa issues.
[07:49] <jellegan1> anybody still available?
[07:51] <jellegan1> can you help me dr?
[07:51] <jellegan1> nevermind.
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes - is all you need to know about wpa
[07:53] <jellegan1> hi, h3sp4wn.  I#ve read that back and forth.
[07:53] <jellegan1> I#m still stuck.
[07:53] <jellegan1> Looked all over.
[07:53] <GazzaK> thanks DaSkreech I quickly read up on what kubuntu-desktop is and carried on with that apt-get remove commend, and it solved my particular issue, thank you
[07:53] <jellegan1> this is my only hope to figure this out.
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: have you looked from sudo wpa_cli ?
[07:54] <jellegan1> yep.
[07:55] <jellegan1> ~could not connect to wpa_supplicant.
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: well you haven't set it up as specified in the above document and run sudo ifup ifname
[07:56] <grayghost> I am getting an error with KDevelop  "/bin/sh: make: command not found .  While trying to Execute program .
[07:57] <jellegan1> I went through that doc and looked at a number of howtos to see if I#m doing anything wrong.
[07:57] <adz21c> grayghost: you probably need to install make
[07:57] <jellegan1> I#m pretty sure I set up my wpa_supplicant.conf correctly.
[07:57] <jellegan1> not 100% sure.
[07:57] <checkob> heyho
[07:58] <grayghost> I have installed make .... I think I have to set the path?  how?
[07:58] <checkob> anyone knows how to get an VT8233 sund card to run
[07:58] <checkob> in / on dapper drake
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: You don't need a wpa_supplicant.conf if you are setting it up from /etc/network/interfaces
[07:58] <adz21c> grayghost: odd you shouldn't need to, it should be just located in your /usr/bin
[07:58] <ubnoob> how can i restore the original keyboard layout that was setup during installation?
[07:59] <adz21c> grayghost: i gtg now so good luck, that was my only suggestion anyway
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: There is a newer version of that file (from a later wpa_supplicant here http://www.milkspank.com/h3sp4wn/wpasupplicant/README.modes.txt )
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: Just setup the stanza in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:01] <jellegan1> I#m checking it out now.
[08:02] <DaSkreech> I chased the Toyman away :(
[08:04] <jellegan1> h3sp4wn, should I put the ssid in quotes if there are more than one word in the name?
[08:05] <GazzaK> oops, well removing konqueror seemed a good idea, until I realised that was the app used for browsing local data :p
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: yes try ' and " if that doesn't work - is it unable to be changed by you ? Do you have a particularly complicated setup - wpa2 with radius and certificates or anything ?
[08:06] <jellegan1> nope,
[08:06] <jellegan1> pretty simple
[08:08] <jellegan1> h3sp, sudo ifup ifname ... what name?
[08:09] <h3sp4wn> depends which interface your wireless is ?
[08:10] <jellegan1> k.
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> (that also depends on what you have to put in /etc/network/interfaces)
[08:11] <jellegan1> sudo ifup ifath0?
[08:11] <jamadagni> hello
[08:11] <CaptainChris> bonjour
[08:11] <jamadagni> bonjour monsieur
[08:11] <CaptainChris> quelqu'un s'y connait un peu sous mupen
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> in /etc/network/interfaces you should have iface ath0 inet dhcp
[08:11] <jellegan1> yep.
[08:11] <jamadagni> qu'est-ce que c'est que mupen?
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> sudo ifup ath0 should bring it up (if its working correctly)
[08:12] <CaptainChris> un emulateur n64
[08:12] <CaptainChris> jellegan1, tu repond yep pour moi
[08:12] <jamadagni> un moment, vous savez anglais? non?
[08:12] <DShepherd> !es
[08:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:12] <jellegan1> no
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: You may or may not need pre-up sleep 3 (depending on where you are located at one point there was a bug which stopped it working
[08:12] <jellegan1> aha.
[08:12] <DShepherd> jamadagni: join #kubuntu-es
[08:13] <jamadagni> i am not spanish
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: make sure you auto ath0 (somewhere in that file also)
[08:13] <jamadagni> this is french we were speaking
[08:13] <DShepherd> oh..
[08:13] <DShepherd> srry
[08:13] <jamadagni> is there a french channel for captainchris?
[08:13] <jellegan1> I read about that bug.
[08:13] <josh__> ok....what is the package fr gset-compiz in kde
[08:13] <jellegan1> I#m getting dhcpdiscover right now.
[08:14] <josh__> i cant find gset-compiz package
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: run sudo wpa_cli (should give you a prompt - then type status)
[08:14] <jamadagni> monsieur captainchris, veuillez aller au channel #kubuntu-fr
[08:14] <josh__> and there is no kset-compiz/kdeset-compiz packages
[08:14] <jellegan1> ~scanning~
[08:14] <jamadagni> la trouverez vous de l'aide en francais
[08:14] <DShepherd> josh__: http://anasofiapaixao.iespana.es/apps/gset-compiz_0.3.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb.tar.gz <-- will that help
[08:15] <jamadagni> on parle seulement anglais ici
[08:15] <jamadagni> ok people, now for my thing
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> jallegan1: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[08:15] <jamadagni> can anyone please tell me what your md5 for kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-cd.iso is?
[08:15] <jamadagni> somehow i have a value of e29a7bf1022e5d257b0f9d134c8b260f
[08:15] <DShepherd> jamadagni: it should be on the site..
[08:15] <josh__> it would but i get errors
[08:15] <jamadagni> yes
[08:16] <jamadagni> the site says 6cb8582aa5615ed4616165743a0868d7
[08:16] <jellegan1> I#m working on two computers.
[08:16] <jamadagni> i am just trying to get verification whether the site is wrong (unlikely) or i am wrong
[08:16] <jellegan1> should I comment out any unused devices?
[08:16] <jamadagni> if I am wrong, then how did the cd burnt from that iso install this kubuntu from which i am  typing?
[08:16] <jamadagni> @DShepherd,. can you help me?
[08:16] <DShepherd> e29a7bf1022e5d257b0f9d134c8b260f  kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: I don't know what you have in there
[08:17] <DShepherd> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/MD5SUMS <-- jamadagni check it out
[08:17] <jellegan1> I wouldn#t expect you to.  I have lom eth0, eth1, ath0, and wlan
[08:18] <jellegan1> I have everything commented out except the auto ath0 section.
[08:18] <jamadagni> DShepherd - why then does http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS say otherwise?
[08:18] <josh__> i cant unzip that file DShepherd
[08:19] <ubuntu> ok i'm on the live cd and it has a couple errors
[08:19] <DShepherd> jamadagni: that;s for an ubuntu cd.. not kubuntu
[08:19] <DShepherd> josh__: ,, oh.. let me try
[08:19] <ubuntu> one of them is when i started up and it said the media process unexpectidly died and one of the restricted drivers is broken
[08:19] <jellegan1> hmmmm...
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: I will give you an example of mine (minus the keys) just the atheros stanza
[08:20] <DShepherd> josh__: oh srry man..
[08:20] <ubuntu> if i installed like this could i just update and it will fix it?
[08:20] <josh__> its ok
[08:20] <jamadagni> whoops! DShepherd thanks
[08:20] <josh__> just dont let it happen again!!
[08:20] <josh__> lol
[08:20] <josh__> j/p
[08:20] <jamadagni> i just love this community!
[08:20] <josh__> will the gset package work with kde?
[08:20] <DShepherd> josh__: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1402545&postcount=6 <-- check that out
[08:21] <DaSkreech> !fr
[08:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:21] <DShepherd> josh__: its not a tar.. its a deb.. just remove the extension. and leave the deb part .. understood?
[08:21] <jamadagni> ok DShepherd - when I try to install kubuntu from the iso on vmware server (either hosted on windows or linux)
[08:21] <ubuntu> can somebody help?
[08:21] <jamadagni> the installation hangs somewhere in the middle of installing packages
[08:21] <josh__> gotcha
[08:21] <DShepherd> josh__: kool
[08:21] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - what is your problem exaclty?
[08:22] <ubuntu> there is a bad md5 on one of the restricted drivers
[08:22] <jellegan1> k.
[08:22] <korgans> hi
[08:22] <ubuntu> should i install anyways and update? would the update fix it?
[08:22] <korgans> how do i cloase the kubuntu sound server
[08:22] <DShepherd> jamadagni: oh... hmmm.. i dont know why that would happen.. honestly i dont
[08:22] <jamadagni> there is a bad md5 for the iso or the driver deb - @ubuntu?
[08:22] <ubuntu> well im on the live cd
[08:23] <DShepherd> jamadagni: have you tried reburning the cd? it may be a bad burn
[08:23] <ubuntu> its not the whole iso just one of the files on it
[08:23] <korgans> Someone know how o kill the sound server process
[08:23] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - and at what point during installation doe sthis error come?
[08:23] <trappist> korgans: killall artsd
[08:23] <ubuntu> no not during the installation
[08:23] <ubuntu> during the check cd for errors
[08:23] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: I am helping out the darkside! :-D
[08:23] <jamadagni> @DShepherd - it's not from the cd at all. vmware server can take an iso on the hard disk and show it to the virtual machine as a cd
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: http://pastebin.ca/149307 (that should be all you need I am not sure about the ssid having spaces in it though)
[08:23] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - what exactly restricted driver it is?
[08:23] <DShepherd> jamadagni: oh.. goes to show.. I have no clue!
[08:24] <ubuntu> i think its the kernel
[08:24] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - oh oh
[08:24] <ubuntu> well doesn't it just update?
[08:24] <korgans> quit
[08:24] <korgans> oops
[08:24] <korgans> thx
[08:24] <ubuntu> if u do an update in adept?
[08:24] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - it may
[08:24] <jellegan1> I don#t have the wpa proto in mine.
[08:24] <ubuntu> ok
[08:24] <jellegan1> or the pre-up
[08:24] <jamadagni> but if it is a kernel package then i doubt it will install and run properly in the first place
[08:24] <ubuntu> whatever i'll try it and see what happens
[08:25] <jellegan1> otherwise, identical.
[08:25] <jamadagni> it should boot, no? and for that the kernel should be correct.
[08:25] <jamadagni> so i think maybe you may need to redownload the iso.
[08:25] <jamadagni> always check the md5sum of the iso and make sure it tallies with teh md5 posted on the ubuntu server before burning a cd
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: Try making the ssid not have a space
[08:25] <jamadagni> even if it is a cdrw
[08:25] <jamadagni> @DShepherd - thanks anyway
[08:26] <jellegan1> I don#t know how best to do that.
[08:26] <jamadagni> ok buys, gye!
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: That would be on the router
[08:26] <jamadagni> i mean, ok guys, bye!
[08:26] <DShepherd> jamadagni: sure man.. i am glad to help out. lata
[08:26] <jamadagni> @DShepherd - "lata'?
[08:26] <jellegan1> the network name is Dusty Rhodes network
[08:26] <jamadagni> @DShepherd - "lata"? (ubugtu said - error, no closing quotation)
[08:27] <ubuntu> oh
[08:27] <ubuntu> i never knew that
[08:27] <DShepherd> jamadagni: bye?
[08:27] <jamadagni> @ubuntu - i said, ubu*g*tu. not you. :)
[08:27] <ubuntu> oh
[08:27] <jamadagni> @DShepherd - i though that was "tata"
[08:27] <jamadagni> ok bye really. it's late here. gn.
[08:27] <DShepherd> ok
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: sudo wpa_cli - then run scan and scanresults
[08:28] <ubuntu> ok what the hell
[08:28] <ubuntu> last time i just selected root for the windows partition
[08:28] <ubuntu> now it won't let me
[08:29] <ubuntu> it says use home or something
[08:29] <jellegan1> lol.
[08:29] <jellegan1> unknown command scanresults
[08:29] <jellegan1> scan_results
[08:30] <ubuntu> ok it says "no root file system" and i'm at the prepare mount points screen
[08:30] <jellegan1> the ssid should be the number sequence?
[08:30] <ubuntu> media/sda is what i want to use
[08:30] <jellegan1> damnit.
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> the ssid is the name
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> the bssid is the mac address
[08:31] <jellegan1> I thought so.  I knew I wasn#t crazy.
[08:31] <ubuntu> ok does anyone need help while kubuntu is installing?
[08:31] <jellegan1> I#m trying without the quotes.
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> You may have to put it in as Dusty\ Rhodes\ network
[08:33] <jellegan1> spaces are slashes.
[08:33] <jellegan1> okay.
[08:33] <XVampireX> How do I close X server?
[08:33] <jellegan1> what about an apostrophe?
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> You may need to put it in like that if you don't quote it but I don't know
[08:35] <jellegan1> k.
[08:35] <jellegan1> done.
[08:35] <jellegan1> scan shows mine and another network.
[08:35] <jellegan1> still not connected.
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> type help
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> and look at the commands to connect manually
[08:37] <ubuntu> to close x server log out and select from the menu login to console
[08:37] <ubuntu> or hit ctrl alt f1
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: If you have wierd characters in the key like &\ and stuff like that then wpa_supplicant doesn't work with it sometimes
[08:37] <jellegan1> sigh.
[08:38] <jellegan1> there is only one apostrophe
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Change the ssid to something without a space and the key to something more simpler (then get it working) then change it to something more secure
[08:39] <jellegan1> I wish I could.
[08:39] <slow-motion> re
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: So its not your router ?
[08:39] <jellegan1> my neighbors.
[08:39] <jellegan1> I pay for the key monthly.
[08:40] <jellegan1> half priced high-speed aint bad.
[08:40] <jellegan1> if I could just figure this out Id be golden.
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: ask in #madwifi if kelmo is around he almost certainly can help you and try to be specific
[08:41] <jellegan1> k.
[08:41] <Jazon> hiya
[08:41] <Jazon> :)
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: You might have to wait a bit but the knowledge of the people there is alot better than mine (when it comes to stuff like this)
[08:41] <Jazon> stuff like what??
[08:41] <jellegan1> I appreciate your help!
[08:42] <Jazon> jellegan1: i just got here whats up?
[08:42] <jellegan1> hi, jazon.
[08:42] <jellegan1> wpa supplicant issue.
[08:42] <jellegan1> my ssid has capital letters, spaces and an apostrophe.
[08:42] <ubuntu> hmm maybe i should just make my name what it usually is
[08:43] <Jazon> j/k
[08:43] <josh__> there
[08:43] <jellegan1> hmmm...
[08:43] <Jazon> damn - phone.... .bbl    if no resolution, i might be able to help
[08:43] <xunq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21664
[08:43] <josh__> nvidia drivers are so easy to install on this
[08:43] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Did they get ridof the sinlge user compiz bug?
[08:43] <josh__> suse is impossible
[08:43] <larson9999> i added a new user to my system and sound doesn't work for him.  it does for me.  kmix says mixer can not be found on the new session.  any ideas what i dorked up?
[08:44] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: hmm not sure...
[08:44] <DaSkreech> larson9999: is the user in the audio group?
[08:44] <jellegan1> btw, it#s wpa-psk-tkip, if that means anything
[08:44] <josh__> yay its done
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Cause Andre hogs the Compiz goodness
[08:46] <DShepherd> larson9999: groups <user> # run that i see if the user's username in in the audio group
[08:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: yeah... I am not sure if it is relalted to a the Xserver-xgl or compiz. not sure
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: actually just run wpa_passphrase Very\ Long\ Ssid silly\'passphrase
[08:47] <EteRNitY> hi u lot
[08:48] <jellegan1> did that.
[08:48] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Why would the Xserver care?
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: wpa_ssid "In Quotes the ssid"
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> wpa-psk 7cccf4e9f2065dc333c7254a32b308a3bbd9d355f9242d817hhdc56cf20f5d04
[08:49] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: that's a good question.. one.. I cannot answer
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> Generated from wpa_passphrase Dusty\ Rhodes\ network mylongpassword\'whatever (it will give you the string of hex which is the equivalnet)
[08:49] <jellegan1> not working right now.
[08:50] <jellegan1> 1 sec.
[08:50] <revolver> ciao a tutti
[08:51] <xunq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21664
[08:51] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Who can?
[08:51] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: another good question.. not sure
[08:51] <xunq> pomoc help segitseg hilfe :D
[08:52] <DaSkreech> xunq: WHoch language?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Which
[08:53] <revolver> i'm italia, hello!!
[08:53] <xunq> slovak german czech english hungary :D
[08:53] <jellegan1> only works in quotes.
[08:53] <otaku-san> revolver: heheh the "ciao" gave you away
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Ah
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> jellegan1: As long as you escape special characters with \ it will work
[08:54] <revolver> no,no ciao mean hello
[08:55] <misieq> how can i make mplayer play movie in root?
[08:55] <revolver> good question
[08:55] <fritsch> misieq: the question is, why do you need root to run mplayer?
[08:56] <misieq> root window. the desktop, the main x window... not "sudo"
[08:56] <jellegan1> kelmo isn#t home, but I#m in the madwifi chat now.  no answer yet.
[08:56] <xunq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21664 help
[08:56] <jellegan1> thanks for your help sp4wn.
[08:56] <fritsch> misieq: soory, language barrier, i did not get it ... but want to help (mplayer running here)
[08:57] <misieq> there was some "--window root" or "-root" option but i don't remember...
[08:58] <fritsch> misieq: it is mplayer -rootwin
[08:58] <Kr4t05> IIRC, you can play a movie in ascii with mplayer, right?
[08:59] <fritsch> Kr4t05: yes :-) over your framebuffer
[08:59] <mani_> hi all !
[08:59] <linuxkid2> hey
[08:59] <fritsch> misieq: does it work? "-rootwin"?
[08:59] <misieq> fritsch: errr... not quite
[08:59] <fritsch> misieq: this is the only option with root
[08:59] <misieq> i mean it actually does play movie, but i can't see it
[08:59] <fritsch> misieq: ah, hehe
[09:00] <fritsch> misieq: try mplay -vo x11 -ao alsa "datei.avi"
[09:00] <mani_> i am looking for some help in improving my video performance... whenever i play a movie, in full screen mode, the video is not smooth...
[09:00] <fritsch> misieq: just for "the record"
[09:00] <fritsch> mani_: what is your graphics card?
[09:00] <misieq> i think i should play it to "desktop" window... probably there is some x utility that can stream to some window...
[09:01] <linuxkid2> misieq: more like pipe. is that what you're thinking?
[09:01] <mani_> fritsch... i have a acer laptop... and i know that it shares the RAM for video ram.
[09:01] <fritsch> mani_: okay, does "dri" work?
[09:01] <misieq> linuxkid2: yeah, that was the word i was missing
[09:01] <fritsch> mani_: glxgears -printfps how many fps do you get?
[09:02] <misieq> linuxkid2: do you know one by accident?
[09:02] <revolver> i'm new of kubuntu, help me!!...how can i do to start my installation downloaded?sorry for my inglish, correct me
[09:02] <linuxkid2> misieq: nope
[09:02] <mani_> fritsch: 316.945 FPS
[09:03] <misieq> in #ubuntu i was told that there was xwinwrap, but it probably works only for accelerated servers like XGL which i don't have here...
[09:03] <fritsch> mani_: mmh, was sagt: glxinfo |grep -i direct
[09:03] <linuxkid2> revolver: what you got so far?
[09:03] <fritsch> mani_: sorry *g* forgot about the language
[09:04] <misieq> i think i'll just get xgl :)
[09:04] <misieq> !xgl
[09:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:04] <mani_> fritsch: can you slow down a lil bit :)    if you tell me a command i can execute it and tell you the results
[09:04] <linuxkid2> revolver, you there?
[09:05] <fritsch> mani_: mmh yes, of course :-)
[09:05] <mani_> fritsch: it says direct rendering: no
[09:05] <revolver> yes, i'm here
[09:05] <mani_> fritsch: and also: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:06] <revolver> i'm italian
[09:06] <linuxkid2> what have you done so far?
[09:06] <fritsch> mani_: yes, okay, this i wanted to know
[09:06] <linuxkid2> ooh, cool
[09:06] <mani_> fritsch: are my settings okay ?
[09:07] <revolver> what's mean what have you done so far?
[09:07] <linuxkid2> what have you downloaded or burned?
[09:07] <fritsch> mani_: think no
[09:07] <fritsch> mani_: direct rendering is not enabled
[09:07] <larson9999> DaSkreech: that was it.  thanks.  guess you must not need to do that in mandriva.
[09:07] <mani_> fritsch: how do i go about enabling it ?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> larson9999: What?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> I forgot now :)
[09:08] <revolver> a game wolfenstein et, i was a pro..and wine a tools for start windows program
[09:08] <fritsch> mani_: please pastebin your xorg.conf and your lsmod list
[09:08] <larson9999> DaSkreech: adding new users to audio group.  mandriva must take care of that or it isn't required
[09:08] <fritsch> mani_: because i have to see the driver your X is using and if the dri modul is loaded
[09:08] <mani_> dri
[09:08] <DaSkreech> larson9999: RIght
[09:08] <fritsch> mani_: direct rendering interface
[09:09] <linuxkid2> revolver: huh? what's your problem?
[09:09] <fritsch> mani_: be right back in approx 10 minutes (have to boot 2.6.18-rc4)
[09:10] <revolver> ok sorry, my problem is : i don't know how to do for start my installation
[09:10] <linuxkid2> revolver: what are you installing?
[09:11] <revolver> my operating sistem? is kubuntu
[09:11] <linuxkid2> so, you have a CD and are trying to install that?
[09:11] <jellegan1> I am in the madwifi room right now too with my wpa issue.  man, it#s dead in there.
[09:11] <jellegan1> no help so far at all.
[09:11] <mani_> pastebin
[09:11] <revolver> no, i have downloaded
[09:12] <linuxkid2> you have kubuntu up and running?
[09:13] <revolver> yes
[09:13] <linuxkid2> revolver: then what is it that you want to install?
[09:13] <arepie> anyone have a sample of boost.filesystem code for me to refer.. im having trouble only looking at the reference...
[09:14] <revolver> is wolfenstein et and wine
[09:14] <maxush> okay, i did a fresh install of kubuntu, then installed the ati drivers using automatic settings, then ran aticonfig, and reset, and now when i boot it gets stuck with the blue kubuntu logo and the blue loading bar, without showing any progress period. it also looks like it's accessing my cd-rom drive every couple of seconds or so
[09:14] <linuxkid2> revolver: oh, wine. um, sorry I don't know. If it's a game, then you might be better served with Cedega.
[09:15] <revolver> one is . bz2 and the other is . run.part
[09:15] <linuxkid2> are you installing WINE with some tarball or apt?
[09:15] <maxush> oh, and if i press ctrl+alt+del, it actually resets the computer
[09:16] <revolver> ah, wine is a tools for start i don' know the means of tarball and apt
[09:16] <linuxkid2> revolver: try "sudo aptitude install wine" to install wine.
[09:16] <revolver> is tar.bz2
[09:17] <revolver> ok i try
[09:17] <linuxkid2> revolver: a tarball is an tar archive file. *.tar.bz2
[09:17] <maxush> sorry, should i just leave?
[09:18] <maxush> i also changed the root password :o
[09:18] <linuxkid2> maxush, you want ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X, not ctrl+alt+del
[09:18] <revolver> ok tks
[09:18] <linuxkid2> revolver: you got wine now, but getting that game working is another matter.
[09:19] <maxush> sorry, i was just saying that to show that the system is actually responding
[09:19] <trappist> maxush: try hitting, say, ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a console window
[09:19] <maxush> nothing
[09:19] <trappist> then examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what may have gone wrong
[09:19] <jellegan1> I am officially pulling my hair out.
[09:19] <linuxkid2> or f1 through f6. they all console terminals
[09:20] <trappist> maxush: in that case reboot, choose the recovery option at the grub menu, THEN check out your xorg log
[09:20] <maxush> alright
[09:20] <revolver> ok in teory it is runned
[09:20] <trappist> maxush: you can escape from recovery mode to normal mode by saying 'exit' when you're done
[09:21] <maxush> thanks
[09:21] <linuxkid2> revolver: maybe. just try running the setup program for that game.
[09:21] <linuxkid2> Anybody know anything about X Terminals?
[09:21] <linuxkid2> XDMCP in particular?
[09:22] <maxush> ah
[09:22] <maxush> fatal server error: no screens found
[09:22] <Jazon> sorry - gonna be tied up for a few hours..... l8r guys
[09:23] <linuxkid2> Anybody know anything about X Terminals?
[09:23] <linuxkid2> Anybody know anything about X Terminals?
[09:23] <linuxkid2> XDMCP in particular?
[09:23] <linuxkid2> oops
[09:23] <pielgrzym> hello :)
[09:24] <revolver> yes, thencks, there is only a problem, i don't know where is the file of program installed
[09:24] <jellegan1> hi.
[09:24] <pielgrzym> I'm using XFS for my linux partition. I've heard that if I edit a file on a XFS and have a reboot, this file gets corrupted. Is it true?
[09:24] <linuxkid2> revolver: wine makes some kind of virtual C drive somewhere that you might be able to find.
[09:26] <trappist> pielgrzym: no.  xfs is a journalized filesystem, specifically designed to prevent that.
[09:26] <abattoir> pielgrzym: i use XFS, and havent encountered that problem, in fact i find XFS filesystems to be more stable when doing hard reboots
[09:26] <revolver> ok
[09:26] <DaSkreech> linuxkid2: What about them?
[09:27] <abattoir> linuxkid2: try looking in ~/.wine
[09:27] <jellegan1> anyone have any other suggestions for where to go for my WPA issue?
[09:27] <abattoir> oops sorry, that was for revolver
[09:27] <jellegan1> madwifi chat sucks.
[09:28] <linuxkid2> DaSkreech: I just want to make an old Pentium into an X terminal, using XDMCP.
[09:28] <linuxkid2> revolver: yeah, try ~/.wine
[09:28] <DaSkreech> By X terminal do you mean a Thin client or an Xterm?
[09:28] <linuxkid2> thin-client
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Ahh look up LTSP
[09:29] <linuxkid2> DaSkreech: what's that, briefly?
[09:29] <revolver> ok it works
[09:29] <revolver> tks tks
[09:29] <pielgrzym> abattoir: so it's safe to use it for all linux partitions?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Linux Terminal Server Project. You run a server and then have a thin client on the client
[09:30] <linuxkid2> !XDMCP
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <abattoir> pielgrzym: yes, however grub is know to have issues w/ it.
[09:30] <linuxkid2> !LTSP
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LTSP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <pielgrzym> abattoir: I've heard that ReiserFS handles loads of small files better (faster) - should I make an ReiserFS partition for music?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> !info ltsp
[09:30] <ubotu> Package ltsp does not exist in dapper
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Bah
[09:30] <pielgrzym> abattoir: I use good old Lilo ;)
[09:30] <DaSkreech> It ships by default no Edubuntu :)
[09:30] <abattoir> pielgrzym: i'm pretty sure the performance diff. is not something that big that you'd notice...
[09:30] <pielgrzym> abattoir: furthermore dumb me installed lilo on windows partition ;)
[09:31] <abattoir> pielgrzym: then it should be good. :)
[09:31] <linuxkid2> DaSkreeck: isn't edubuntu designed for that kind of thing?
[09:31] <pielgrzym> abattoir: good to hear that :) thanks :)
[09:31] <misieq> !seveas
[09:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:31] <DaSkreech> I would guess that's why it ships with it by default
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Semi popular :)
[09:32] <linuxkid2> might it be in there?
[09:32] <secure> Hey everyone, is it possible to restore a computer to a basic Ubuntu installation without the CD?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> larson9999: http://www.google.com/search?q=PS3+will+cure+cancer&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[09:32] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Check out the Google hint :)
[09:32] <pielgrzym> abattoir: thanks for help :) I'll stick to XFS then :)
[09:32] <abattoir> pielgrzym: no problem :)
[09:33] <maxush> arg
[09:33] <zblach> quick question. I'm using a HP Pavilion notebook, and i've these quickplay keys. no chance I can bind them to launch mplayer/xmms?
[09:33] <secure> Hey everyone, is it possible to restore a computer to a basic Ubuntu installation without the CD?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> secure: Sure
[09:34] <secure> That's great to know, but how?
[09:34] <abattoir> zblach: should be possible...
[09:34] <DaSkreech> secure: are you trying to get rid of Gnome or  KDE?
[09:35] <Skrot> Better be gnome!! ;)
[09:35] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Split!
[09:35] <lnxkde> :p
[09:35] <abattoir> zblach: you can use 'xev' to find the respective keycodes...
[09:35] <lnxkde> DaSkreech:  how are you!?
[09:35] <zblach> abattoir: what do I run to ... right. xev. thanks
[09:35] <secure> Well, I have both on my computer, but I can't seem to get into them, I screwed something up with XGL/Compiz and I'm stuck with XFCE.....
[09:35] <abattoir> zblach: then you should map them to the commands you need to execute...
[09:36] <ubuntu> wooah why is the repo so damn slow
[09:36] <zblach> abattoir: how? i have the keycodes, but how can I map 'em?
[09:36] <revolver> by by!! tks
[09:36] <ubuntu> just installing linux :D again
[09:36] <abattoir> zblach: setkeycodes i think... i'll look it up, one sec...
[09:37] <DaSkreech> secure: I forget how to do it with XFCE but try removing Glib
[09:38] <misieq> how comes i don't have a gpg key for "http://kubuntu.org dapper Release" ? : NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[09:38] <secure> Sorry, I'm new with the whole thing, what's Glib?
[09:38] <josh___> i can't play mp3's
[09:39] <misieq> !mp3
[09:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:39] <abattoir> misieq: technically, its not an 'official' repo. there are however instructions on every announce page(iirc) about how to add jr's key
[09:40] <monkeybirhd> hi, how do i set up wifi for a dlink dwl-g510?
[09:41] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: you could try ndiswrapper
[09:41] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: if there are no nativ drivers
[09:41] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: keep your windows driver "inf" handy and use the ndiswrapper tools
[09:41] <abattoir> zblach: i think xbindkeys is what you need... xbindkeys is a GTK frontend which apparently eases the configuration
[09:41] <fritsch> monkeybirhd:  ndiswrapper -i "inf files"
[09:41] <RogueX> Can someone tell me how to get the date back on the panel?
[09:41] <monkeybirhd> is ndiswrapper
[09:41] <zblach> ndiswrapper included in dapper?
[09:42] <monkeybirhd> installed
[09:42] <abattoir> RogueX: do you have the clock?
[09:42] <fritsch> zblach: yes of course
[09:42] <monkeybirhd> ok
[09:42] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:42] <RogueX> abattoir: No not now..
[09:42] <zblach> fritsch, so, um, without a network connection, how're you going to download it ;)
[09:42] <abattoir> RogueX: ok, rt. click on the panel->Add applet->clock
[09:43] <fritsch> zblach: if you can come in here, you can just get "the deb" file and install by hand?
[09:43] <RogueX> abattoir: Ok I have the clock now.. how do I get date?
[09:43] <abattoir> RogueX: if that doesnt have the date, rt. click on the clock->Configure clock->Check date...
[09:43] <abattoir> 'check' the date checkbox
[09:44] <RogueX> abattoir: That got it!  Thank you
[09:44] <abattoir> RogueX: you're welcome :)
[09:44] <maxush> thanks trappist, linuxkid
[09:44] <RogueX> abattoir: I see you in here a lot helping.. you seem to really know this stuff! :)
[09:44] <maxush> i just got back into kde :p
[09:45] <DaSkreech> Welcome :)
[09:45] <abattoir> RogueX: heh, if you think so :)
[09:45] <mani_> fritsch: got a minute? i have all the info you need... while you were away i booted in winxp and found that i have SiS M760 GX card
[09:45] <fritsch> mani_: uuh, mmmh don`t know of Sis DRI support?
[09:45] <fritsch> mani_: you can try the "sis" module
[09:46] <mani_> fritsch: how ?
[09:47] <RogueX> abattoir:  I show that udp port 68 (tftp) is connected to the internal address any idea why?
[09:47] <abattoir> RogueX: nope, i really know little about networking stuff :(
[09:48] <fritsch> mani_: modprobe sis
[09:48] <DaSkreech> So are we going to have a Kubuntu for PS3? :)
[09:49] <abattoir> mani_: dont think dri is supported by the sis driver for your card...
[09:49] <abattoir> DaSkreech: we can make one ;)
[09:50] <DaSkreech> I know :)
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Yay IBM :)
[09:50] <abattoir> DaSkreech: anyways it runs linux, so switching distros shouldnt be hard :P
[09:50] <mani_> abattoir, fritsch: first i got WARNING: Error inserting drm and then i got FATAL: Error inserting sis
[09:50] <fritsch> abattoir: "no such device"?
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Depends on if they lock the processorI guess
[09:51] <abattoir> mani_: 'sudo modprobe sis' ?
[09:51] <mani_> abattoir, fritsch, it also says operation not permitted
[09:51] <fritsch> mani_: do it with sudo, as abattoir said
[09:52] <abattoir> fritsch: i think it should be loaded by default...
[09:52] <abattoir> ... the sis module.
[09:52] <mani_> nothing... when i do modprobe it just comes back to the next line without any output
[09:52] <abattoir> ok, that's good
[09:52] <mani_> im so glad :)
[09:52] <abattoir> mani_: do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[09:53] <fritsch> abattoir: mmh, this asks a lot
[09:53] <fritsch> abattoir: just changing "Driver" to "sis" and add sis to /etc/modules would do it?
[09:53] <mani_> do you want to look at the xorg.conf file... it says "default video card" ec
[09:54] <fritsch> mani_: yes what says: Driver there?
[09:54] <abattoir> fritsch: it only asks two questions :P
[09:54] <mani_> generic video card, driver: VESA
[09:55] <fritsch> mani_: there is your problem
[09:55] <fritsch> mani_: change this to "sis"
[09:55] <mani_> how do i load SiS driver ?
[09:55] <fritsch> mani_: if it works - cool, if not bad
[09:55] <mani_> can i edit the file
[09:55] <fritsch> i did not see abattoir -phigh
[09:55] <fritsch> mani_: please do what he suggests ...
[09:55] <fritsch> mani_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:55] <mani_> what does that scary looking command do ?
[09:55] <abattoir> fritsch: ;)
[09:56] <mani_> it reconfigures xserver does it ?
[09:56] <abattoir> mani_: that'd give you a cream on blue screen... :P
[09:56] <abattoir> mani_: which gives you options to choose your driver... which'd be sis in your case...
[09:56] <mani_> ok... here goess... :)
[09:56] <abattoir> and then choose your native resolution
[09:58] <mani_> a window opened "debconf" it says "please enter a value for the entry" and "a null entry is not permitted"... i am not being allowed to press next
[09:58] <mani_> also, there is no place to enter any value !
[09:59] <mani_> on the konsole, it says "bad device, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[10:00] <RogueX> Anyone know if you can start Kubuntu in Console mode first?
[10:00] <abattoir> mani_: did you enter the exact command which i mentioned?
[10:01] <heinkel_111> anyone knows if there are precompiled drivers for nvidia 570 chipset?
[10:01] <heinkel_111> i have an asus m2n-sli motherboard
[10:01] <heinkel_111> network does not function with dapper
[10:01] <heinkel_111> seems like ethernet driver does not compute
[10:03] <mani_> abattoir: yes i did copy and paste
[10:04] <mani_> abattoir: when i ran the command, it printed a lot of error msgs on the console and then the "debian conf" window opened
[10:04] <abattoir> mani_: could you pastebin those error messages?
[10:04] <abattoir> !pastebin
[10:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:04] <monkeybirhd> how do i install a package localy? the reason i need wifi is because i cant get wired internet.
[10:05] <abattoir> monkeybirhd: 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb'
[10:05] <monkeybirhd> ok
[10:06] <DaSkreech> RogueX: Sup?
[10:06] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Hay.  :)
[10:07] <RogueX> Anyone know if you can start Kubuntu in Console mode first?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> RogueX: What are you trying to do?
[10:07] <mani_> abattoir: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21666
[10:07] <RogueX> DaSkreech: I want to come up in console mode first then "startx" into Kubuntu.
[10:08] <jujimufu> ok, so yesterday I downloaded GNOME to try it out, and along, it downloaded many other gnome-related packages.
[10:08] <jujimufu> however, gnome's messed up my system, and I want to remove it, completely.
[10:08] <jujimufu> any ideas how?
[10:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: hehe
[10:08] <Hawkwind> RogueX: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0  <~~That's the how-to on my forums that I used to do what you want
[10:09] <jujimufu> fritsch: well, it's messed up with KDM, my sound settings, X, everything. Any ideas?
[10:09] <RogueX> Hawkwind: I will check it out now.  Thanks
[10:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmmh, was it your computer i worked 3 hours to get dri working?
[10:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: in Germany wie say: From Mistakes - we learn ...
[10:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: how did you install gnome?
[10:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:10] <abattoir> mani_: 'warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; no default X server'
[10:10] <monkeybirhd> ok i installed the drivers with ndiswrapper, now what?
[10:10] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:10] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, sudo apt-get install gnome
[10:10] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: after that: iwlist ethX scan (where X is your wireless)
[10:10] <abattoir> mani_: it seems to suggest that you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'....
[10:10] <jujimufu> fritsch: and yeah, that was me :)
[10:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmh this won't f*ck up something
[10:11] <mani_> abattoir: you mean without the sudo ?
[10:11] <abattoir> mani_: or, as fritsch suggested, you can try changing all the instances of vesa to sis in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P
[10:11] <abattoir> mani_: with the sudo
[10:11] <monkeybirhd> just type "modprobe ndiswrapper" in to a term
[10:11] <DaSkreech> jujimufu: I think you can sudo aptitude remove some Gnome Lib to get rid of it
[10:11] <monkeybirhd> ?
[10:11] <abattoir> mani_: it asks a lot of questions... however if you dont know, just select the default value...
[10:11] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:12] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: ndiswrapper is the kernel "side" of the tools
[10:12] <mani_> abattoir: so we are dropping the -phigh switch
[10:12] <abattoir> mani_: when it comes to the bit about your X video driver, choose sis and then your resolution...
[10:12] <fritsch> mani_: *g*
[10:12] <abattoir> mani_: yes
[10:12] <abattoir> fritsch: i have been wanting to ask you... what is *g* supposed to mean, btw?
[10:13] <fritsch> abattoir: oh, that means a "smiling"
[10:13] <fritsch> abattoir: they do it in icq to me ...
[10:13] <abattoir> fritsch: hmmm ok.
[10:13] <fritsch> abattoir: this is not irc style, right?
[10:14] <fritsch> abattoir: so i try to stop it ;-)
[10:14] <heinkel_111> hey fritsch!
[10:14] <monkeybirhd> it just says "segmentation fault"
[10:14] <fritsch> heinkel_111: moin
[10:14] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: uuh
[10:14] <abattoir> fritsch: well, i havent seen it before, was curious, so i asked, thats all :)
[10:14] <fritsch> monkeybirhd: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:14] <kasum> HI
[10:15] <heinkel_111> fritsch: do you recall my network problem from 2 weeks ago (before my vacation)?
[10:15] <DaSkreech> abattoir: It's short for *grin*
[10:15] <heinkel_111> you tried to help me get dhcp working
[10:15] <fritsch> heinkel_111: no, sorry - i only remember your name
[10:15] <mani_> fritsch, abattoir: No X server known for your video hardware. when i click next it goes to the monitor settings...
[10:15] <DaSkreech> I would suspect
[10:15] <abattoir> DaSkreech: aah, ok :)
[10:15] <fritsch> mani_: okay, edit by hand
[10:15] <misieq_> errr.... how do i change res in xgl?
[10:15] <fritsch> heinkel_111: does it work now?
[10:15] <heinkel_111> fritsch: we concluded there might be some problem with the network drivers
[10:16] <fritsch> heinkel_111: ja?
[10:16] <RawSewage> misieq, is that panel grayed out
[10:16] <heinkel_111> no it does not work
[10:16] <heinkel_111> fritsch: you suggested some checks to find out if correct drivers were installes?
[10:16] <misieq_> RawSewage: what panel?
[10:16] <RawSewage> misieq, the monitor cp
[10:16] <RawSewage> Settings , Peripherals
[10:17] <misieq_> in kcontrol? i can't load display, there is some error
[10:17] <RawSewage> Display
[10:17] <RawSewage> yeah, in Compiz
[10:17] <fritsch> heinkel_111: sorry, i don`t remember :-(
[10:17] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i have a nvidia 570 based asus m2n-sli motherboard (this has onboard network)
[10:17] <fritsch> heinkel_111: much has happened sinc then
[10:17] <heinkel_111> ':)
[10:17] <fritsch> heinkel_111: ah okay
[10:17] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what modul does it use
[10:17] <heinkel_111> fritsch: modul?
[10:17] <misieq_> RawSewage: in compiz? or in kcontrol?
[10:17] <fritsch> heinkel_111: module
[10:18] <fritsch> heinkel_111: which module is responsible for your network?
[10:18] <heinkel_111> fritsch: don't completely understand question..software module or....
[10:18] <RawSewage> misieq, the monitor control was messed up for me when I was running Compiz
[10:18] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you need a kernel modul to load the hardware driver ...
[10:19] <mani_> fritsch: there was only one line with "vesa" in xorg.conf... i changed to sis... any other changes ?
[10:19] <fritsch> mani_: yes
[10:19] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i have default amd64 6.06 installed
[10:19] <fritsch> mani_: please add sis to /etc/modules, just into a new line
[10:19] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what says: dmesg |grep -i eth
[10:19] <misieq_> !xgl
[10:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:20] <monkeybirhd> it said "interface doesn't support scanning"
[10:20] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what tells: dmesg |grep sky
[10:20] <fritsch> mani_: after this you have to "restart" your xserver
[10:20] <fritsch> mani_: if something goes wrong, just change the "sis" lines again
[10:21] <fritsch> mani_: back to vesa
[10:21] <heinkel_111> fritsch: dmesg |grep -i eth tells a lot of things ;)
[10:21] <fritsch> heinkel_111: pleace pastebin them ... or send it to me via mail
[10:21] <monkeybirhd> what should it be called if i have a wired internet card too?
[10:21] <heinkel_111> fritsch: there are references to a forcedeth.c
[10:21] <monkeybirhd> eth1?
[10:21] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay, cool! nforce driver
[10:22] <monkeybirhd> hello?
[10:25] <mani_> abattoir: i have made the changes fritsch told me about... now how do i restart my x-server... im guessing something like sudo /etc/X ....
[10:26] <abattoir> mani_: the quickest way is Ctrl+Alt+Backspace....
[10:26] <monkeybirhd> anybody?
[10:26] <abattoir> mani_: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' also does the trick
[10:27] <apallo19> how do i make the extra buttons on my mouse work
[10:27] <abattoir> monkeybirhd: what's the problem?
[10:28] <mani_> abattoir: i pressed ctrl-alt-bksp... the screen flickered a lot and then i had to log in again... now, how do i know if everything is okay ?
[10:28] <monkeybirhd> what should a wifi card be called (eth?) if it is the second net card?
[10:28] <Dannilion> cos it's screwed up since Dapper
[10:29] <Dannilion> but eth1
[10:29] <Dannilion> do iwconfig to find out for certain though
[10:29] <abattoir> mani_: if the restart was successful, then everything is ok, i guess :)
[10:30] <monkeybirhd> eth0 is the 1st, whould this one be eth1
[10:30] <monkeybirhd> ?
[10:30] <abattoir> monkeybirhd: generally eth0 is for the ethernet interface(if detected), the wireless interface could be named anything, depending on the driver
[10:30] <abattoir> monkeybirhd: could be eth1, could be wlan0 could be rausb0
[10:30] <Dannilion> what one is listed as wireless when you do iwconfig?
[10:30] <mani_> abattoir: but when i do a "glxinfo | grep -i direct" it says "direct rendering: NO"
[10:30] <abattoir> monkeybirhd: which driver?
[10:30] <Dannilion> mine is eth1, but used to be wlan0
[10:31] <monkeybirhd> dwl-g510
[10:31] <monkeybirhd> dlink
[10:32] <abattoir> mani_: iirc, the sis driver does not support 3d acceleration, if that is what you are looking for.
[10:32] <monkeybirhd> it says lo no wireless extensions
[10:32] <monkeybirhd> eth0 no wireless extensions
[10:32] <mani_> abattoir: im just trying to improve my video performance when i play movies
[10:33] <abattoir> mani_: hmm, using the sis driver doesnt help?
[10:34] <mani_> abattoir: lemme check
[10:34] <wamd> Hi all.
[10:34] <monkeybirhd> i just want wifi.
[10:34] <Dannilion> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"DJS"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[10:34] <Dannilion>  - first line of mine with wireless
[10:35] <monkeybirhd> could it be "lo"
[10:35] <josh___> whats the command to configure wine
[10:35] <wamd> Just switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and I have a problem with a USB hard drive not being accessible by my regular user account though the shortcut on the desktop.
[10:36] <wamd> I get the error "Could not enter folder /media/usbdisk"
[10:37] <josh___> nobody knows how to configure wine?
[10:37] <monkeybirhd> logging off...
[10:38] <mani_> abattoir: it is great now ! the video is very smooth... without any pauses or breaks... thanks a ton :D
[10:38] <abattoir> mani_: thank fritsch if you get the chance tomorrow :)
[10:38] <mani_> abattoir:  i will ! thanks to you too... im logging off now... thanks again :)
[10:39] <office> !antivirus
[10:39] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[10:39] <abattoir> mani_: no problem :)
[10:39] <office> !antivir
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about antivir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <josh___> oooh linux pwns windows yet again
[10:39] <josh___> hey has anyone seen XGL *drool*
[10:39] <office> !linuxvirus
[10:39] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:40] <aliasfred> i need to test xgl :)
[10:40] <josh___> omg
[10:40] <josh___> i want it
[10:40] <josh___> NOW
[10:40] <josh___> on ubuntu though
[10:40] <josh___> thats why i wont get it, i dont like suse
[10:41] <aliasfred> right now i need a profiler :)
[10:41] <RawSewage> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[10:41] <phreakys_> hello
[10:42] <phreakys_> im in doubt about choosing ubuntu or kubuntu, and was hoping to get some advise here
[10:42] <josh___> dont doubt
[10:42] <josh___> its the easiest one i've ever used
[10:42] <phreakys_> right now i have ubuntu installed(had kubuntu previously), but im not too happy about gnome
[10:42] <phreakys_> yea, it looks great too
[10:42] <tsdgeos> then go with kubuntu again
[10:42] <josh___> you can convert to kde
[10:42] <tsdgeos> as josh___ says no need to reinstall
[10:42] <josh___> holy crap you can put xgl on here?
[10:42] <phreakys_> wouldn't there be a problem with compiz/kde?
[10:43] <Dannilion> open up Terminal
[10:43] <Dannilion> type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:43] <phreakys_> right now xgl/compiz is running perfectly under gnome
[10:43] <Skrot> phreakys_: nah. Either you use gnome window decoration, or cgwd for decoration.
[10:43] <josh___> i installed it but don't know how to use it
[10:43] <Dannilion> log out, log back in with a KDE session
[10:43] <Skrot> I've made a decoration for cgwd which resembles kubuntu's default colorscheme and smoothblend's buttons if anyone want it ;)
[10:43] <phreakys_> i use cgwd, but...i tried xgl on kde and noticed it started in a window
[10:44] <phreakys_> nice
[10:44] <Skrot> ah, I'm not quite sure.. I use aiglx
[10:44] <phreakys_> you have ati?
[10:44] <josh___> are they gonna come out with an ubuntu that runs on xgl?
[10:44] <josh___> instead of having to install xgl after?
[10:44] <Skrot> I've got Intel i915 integrated graphics
[10:45] <phreakys_> aha
[10:45] <josh___> what graphics cards do u guys have?
[10:45] <Skrot> josh___: Xorg is getting aiglx by default, so I guess Ubuntu Edgy will ship with both
[10:45] <phreakys_> im still on fglrx with my ati
[10:45] <phreakys_> ati x700
[10:45] <Skrot> ah, no aiglx for you =)
[10:45] <phreakys_> nope :-)
[10:46] <Skrot> Should be just around the corner though
[10:46] <phreakys_> by the way...would it be possible to have multiple wallpapers mapped on the compiz cube in kde?
[10:46] <wamd>  I'm having an issue with a USB hard drive.  It's automounting, but it's not accessible by regular users.
[10:46] <phreakys_> in gnome its kinda...impossible
[10:46] <Skrot> I've got no idea, phreakys_
[10:46] <Skrot> seems impossible
[10:47] <Skrot> Perhaps because compiz/cgwd owns the viewports, not kwin/kdesktop or whatever =)
[10:47] <phreakys_> yea, im not sure what makes the wallpaper happen on compiz
[10:47] <phreakys_> yea, indeed
[10:47] <phreakys_> would be a nice feature though
[10:47] <Skrot> indeed
[10:47] <Skrot> Both aiglx, xgl and compiz has some maturing to do :)
[10:48] <aseigo> phreakys_: that's a compix issue, not a kde issue
[10:48] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[10:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:48] <aseigo> er, compiz
[10:49] <Skrot> are you familiar with the project to add compositing to kwin, aseigo?
[10:49] <phreakys_> yea, too bad its still not build in, but i love it allready
[10:49] <DaSkreech> josh___: I don't know if it's legal to have a working XGL Distro
[10:49] <aseigo> Skrot: i was there in trysil when seli added composition plugin support, yes
[10:50] <aseigo> DaSkreech: if by "working" you mean "include the binary x drivers" in the context of "letting people download it off the 'net like that" then no
[10:50] <phreakys_> ah well, ill put kubuntu in there. gnome sucks :)
[10:50] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Is there another way to get it working?
[10:51] <aseigo> well, binary x drivers aren't an issue (it's mit) it's the kernel bits
[10:51] <aseigo> DaSkreech: right now? not well, no
[10:51] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Well as it stands it can ship working for intel video cards
[10:51] <phreakys_> ill be back in an hour or so ;-) laterz
[10:52] <aseigo> DaSkreech: the newer ones once they hit the market in force, yeah
[10:52] <aseigo> (intel)
[10:52] <Skrot> aseigo: Right, but do you know if the project is still active/alive or if it's been abandoned?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Well I don't think that we care how many are out on the market or else we'd all be using Windows no?
[10:53] <aseigo> Skrot: it's exactly where seli said it was left ... needing people to write plugins and do interesting graphicsy things
[10:53] <aseigo> Skrot: kwin is apparently "plugin ready" but needs plugins
[10:53] <Skrot> ah
[10:54] <Ademan> is there any program that enumerates the available network interfaces? and then tells you which are working?
[10:54] <aseigo> the funny thing is that i haven't heard this much hullaballoo over an x11 feature since aa text
[10:54] <aseigo> and at least aa text was immediately and obviously useful
[10:54] <aseigo> ;)
[10:54] <abattoir> Ademan: ifconfig ??
[10:54] <cybereden> Hi! I need to share my internet connection to my Palm Treo 650. My PC is connected to a router and router is connected to a DSL modem. Any ideas? Thanks! :)
[10:54] <DaSkreech> aseigo: aa text is assume :)
[10:54] <aseigo> Ademan: the network interfaces module in the control center
[10:55] <Ademan> abattoir: yeah i just got told that, i'm gonna try it, i wanna write a little script that detects which network interfaces are available and then activates the correct one
[10:55] <aseigo> Ademan: or if you want just info, kinfocenter
[10:55] <aseigo> Ademan: or if you are using it, knetworkmanager
[10:55] <BlackHand> cybereden: treo have bluetooth ? you can try to stablish ppp conection between linux and the treo, i use a similar system for my Tungsten T2 in my home
[10:55] <aseigo> Ademan: you mean like knetworkmanager?
[10:56] <spazz> death to the terminal and its damn errors, every SINGLE time i use it
[10:56] <spazz> ive figured it out tho. its just that linux hates me.
[10:56] <cybereden> BlackHand: how please? treo 650 have bluetooth yes.
[10:56] <jujimufu> spazz: awwww... :D
[10:56] <BlackHand> cybereden: you need bluetooth in your PC
[10:56] <spazz> argh, nothing will install.
[10:56] <spazz> apt-get broken
[10:56] <spazz> dependency errors. all the time.
[10:57] <spazz> just installed thislike 3 days ago
[10:57] <Ademan> aseigo: i'm on straight ubuntu, so i don't know, i was reffering to a program in the userland sense, which doesnt depend on the Desktop Environment
[10:57] <cybereden> BlackHand: i have everything, only setup is needed
[10:57] <BlackHand> cybereden: or you can try with the usb cable
[10:57] <BlackHand> ok
[10:57] <aseigo> Ademan: networkmanager
[10:57] <aseigo> Ademan: which has frontends of dbus, knetworkmanager and whatever the gnome binary is called
[10:57] <abattoir> spazz: we could help you if you could actually pastebin some of those errors :)
[10:58] <abattoir> !pastebin > spazz
[10:58] <BlackHand> cybereden: http://atulchitnis.net/writings/palm-ppp.php
[10:58] <BlackHand> and
[10:59] <BlackHand> cybereden: this one is for usb cable, but works with bluetooth with few changes
[10:59] <BlackHand> try first with the usb cable, and after this, try with bt
[10:59] <spazz> I was loading pastbin before i came in here
[10:59] <spazz> internet being SLOW
[10:59] <cybereden> ok thanks BlackHand
[10:59] <spazz> had to use it a bunch yesturday lol
[10:59] <spazz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21668
[10:59] <cybereden> :)
[11:01] <abattoir> !info libmono0
[11:01] <ubotu> libmono0: libraries for the Mono JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 762 kB, installed size 1968 kB
[11:02] <Catull> hi :)
[11:02] <spazz> aargh, linux = broken lol
[11:02] <BlackHand> cybereden: after u can try this http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/s.zachariadis/btpalmlinux.html
[11:02] <BlackHand> y use the first one with some changes for my conection via bt, but this second one works too
[11:03] <cybereden> BlackHand: which one's the easiest?
[11:04] <Catull> DaSkreech: back again ;)
[11:04] <BlackHand> cybereden: both ones are easier, the first one is for usb-cable (more faster to setup) the second one is for bt (take a little more time to setup, but is not complicated)
[11:04] <DaSkreech> Catull: Hello
[11:04] <heno> basic question: can konq be configured to let me move a file from one window to another by default (and not pop up the context menu)?
[11:06] <cybereden> BlackHand: bluez is already installed as default. i can even send/receive files already but need inet connection
[11:06] <BlackHand> cybereden: then the second one
[11:07] <heno> (and without holding shift)
[11:07] <cybereden> BlackHand: i use dapper by the way. and rfcomm is not installed for some reason
[11:08] <Catull> DaSkreech: got time for some questions? ;)
[11:08] <DaSkreech> I don't knowAsk and lets see
[11:09] <slougi> is there a way to make album art work with ipods in amarok?
[11:09] <Catull> DaSkreech: k.. was here 2 days before and wanted to install kubuntu and got stuck with the partition problems... MagicPartition vs gparted... remember that?
[11:10] <slougi> according to the amarok wiki it should work, and I checked that libgpod is linked to gdkpixbuf which is required. currently using amarok 1.4.1 from the official packages
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Catull:Yes
[11:11] <Catull> DaSkreech: now the question... i dont know why, but now would Mpart allow me to give 9gig for ext3 and 1 gig for swap (last time only 7^^) go on with mpart or start the livecd and go on with gparted?
[11:12] <josh___> novell posted the source code for xgl
[11:12] <josh___> so everyone must be working on it now
[11:13] <Catull_Mac> -.-
[11:13] <DaSkreech> Catull: Go with Mpart and reboot to make sure that the space has been made. Do you know how to use Disk manager?
[11:14] <Catull> DaSkreech: to be honest: no -.-
[11:15] <Catull> quitting here...
[11:15] <Catull_Mac> ...and staying tuned here
[11:18] <deoptima> anyone have a fix for the crazy mouse issue on a touchpad?
[11:18] <zblach> wireless optical via usb
[11:19] <zblach> is there a way to check if a process is already running?
[11:19] <intelikey> well i got my kernel down to 1.8m  i could prolly trim some more off of it. but i think i'll see how it performs as is.
[11:19] <intelikey> zblach ps
[11:19] <zblach> kinda like ps -A | grep (process)
[11:19] <intelikey> pidof name
[11:20] <pavel_> hi everyone
[11:20] <zblach> i'm xbindkeysing, and i don't want to accidentally launch multiple instances of gmplayer
[11:21] <intelikey> pidof blah || blah
[11:21] <zblach> what does that do?
[11:21] <intelikey> what did you ask about
[11:22] <zblach> pidof gmplayer || gmplayer
[11:22] <intelikey> yep
[11:22] <zblach> so, what does || mean?
[11:22] <intelikey> man bash    can explain it for you.
[11:22] <intelikey> || is the oppisite of &&
[11:23] <pavel_> I've got a problem: when I execute fglrx 8.28.8 I have an error: Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.28.8...Extraction failed.
[11:23] <intelikey> looks like a bad dl pavel_
[11:24] <intelikey> md5 it ?
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Ok Where are you now?
[11:24] <pavel_> what si dl ?
[11:24] <intelikey> down load
[11:24] <pavel_> what is dl?
[11:24] <zblach> intelikey: thanks
[11:24] <intelikey> np zblach
[11:24] <pavel_> I downloaded it from www.ati.com
[11:25] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: mpart is about to run the partition 8% -.-
[11:25] <intelikey> so md5 it  against their check sum     assuming they provide one
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Ok
[11:25] <DaSkreech> Want to  find Disk Manager?
[11:25] <Catull_Mac> yes
[11:25] <Catull_Mac> for sure :)
[11:26] <pavel_> may be problem in OS?
[11:26] <secure> how can I restore my computer to the way that it was when I first installed Ubuntu if I don't have the CD?
[11:26] <intelikey> pavel_ you following the wiki ?
[11:26] <intelikey> !ati
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:26] <pavel_> Yep.
[11:27] <Bbetto> the kmenu is gone
[11:28] <pavel_> I used http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:29] <Wendelin> I upgraded KDE to 3.5.4. What me now a bit annoys, that after the upgrade kpersonalizer pops up each time after logging in. How do I prevent kpersonalizer asking me after logging in?
[11:29] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Control Panel _> Adminstrative Tools
[11:29] <DaSkreech> Umm
[11:29] <intelikey> secure rm -r $HOME ;mkdir $HOME ;cp /etc/skel/.* $HOME         note that you need to use full path rather than the verable $HOME  because you will have to sudo mkdir and chown it      all local customization is in $HOME
[11:29] <DaSkreech> Computer Managerment?
[11:29] <DaSkreech> Mangement
[11:29] <intelikey> again i caution.   that's a sketch  not a copy and paste command.
[11:30] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: i?m still waiting for Mpart to finisch the partition job :(
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Ohhh it's REboot CD?
[11:31] <intelikey> secure you can use your file browser to rm things in $HOME  make sure it's displaying hidden
[11:31] <Bbetto> my panel is gone
[11:31] <pavel_> intelikey, that manual is correct? I mean that did toy install your driver with that how-to?
[11:31] <Bbetto> i need see it again
[11:31] <Bbetto> how?
[11:32] <pavel_> /did you..
[11:32] <intelikey> pavel_ ?
[11:32] <intelikey> Bbetto [alt] +[f2]      run kicker
[11:32] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: no .. mpart asked me to reboot and before xp could start it opened a "blue" window telling me being about to partionate... not able to do something els on that pc... i?m sitting here on my old powerboobk ;)
[11:32] <intelikey> kicker
[11:32] <pavel_> I can try it, but is it right?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Ahh Ok Coolness That makes perfect sense
[11:33] <Catull_Mac> ;)
[11:33] <intelikey> pavel_ for ati ?    i have nvidia so idk.   but it's the "official" *buntu way.
[11:33] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: maybe this time everything will come to place
[11:33] <Catull_Mac> ;)
[11:33] <Bbetto> i try run kicker but nothig hapend
[11:33] <pavel_> ok.
[11:34] <DaSkreech> Yeah we will just make sure that the partitions are thenre first
[11:34] <intelikey> Bbetto you didn't type "run kicker" did you.    i mean to run the command "kicker"
[11:34] <DaSkreech> There first
[11:34] <Bbetto> yes
[11:34] <Bbetto> is taht i made
[11:35] <intelikey> i don't use pannels.    heck i don't even use a gui.
[11:35] <pavel_> ok. what does fakeroot mean?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> !fakeroot
[11:35] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:36] <intelikey> fakeroot is an app
[11:36] <pavel_> it worked when I add
[11:36] <pavel_>    3.
[11:36] <pavel_>       fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[11:36] <pavel_>     *
[11:37] <intelikey> nice.   so only root can exec that.    learn something new every day.
[11:37] <Bbetto> i don't see my panel
[11:37] <pavel_> Of cource I add sudo
[11:37] <pavel_> Of course I add sudo
[11:38] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: So what have you been up to?
[11:38] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: hehe... 54% .. thats it...
[11:39] <intelikey> Bbetto if you can't get there anyother way.  just hit [alt] +[ctrl] +[backspace] 
[11:39] <Catull_Mac> i think i?m starting to hate mpart^^
[11:39] <cybereden> !Ibon US__BIF_NAKED.MPG
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ibon US__BIF_NAKED.MPG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <DaSkreech> What did it do?
[11:39] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: its f****** slow :(
[11:39] <intelikey> oh the 54% bug    :)
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: it's trying to move the Windows swap file? Maybe
[11:40] <intelikey> oooo should rm that sucker first.
[11:40] <pavel_> strange. I read that people installed this driver to their *buntu
[11:41] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: oh sorry... actually no real problem the process is going on... 62% ;)
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Good
[11:41] <Catull_Mac> only a "bit" slow
[11:41] <intelikey> well it's not the 54% bug after all
[11:42] <Catull_Mac> lol
[11:42] <pavel_> :)
[11:43] <intelikey> what card you got pavel_?  (just curious)
[11:43] <pavel_> I've got 9200 mobility
[11:44] <intelikey> mmm
[11:45] <DaSkreech> ?me whistles and Juggels Vista Cds
[11:45] <pavel_> It's very big problem for me, because I tried a lot of time to install ati driver and still haven't did this
[11:45] <intelikey> /me
[11:45] <DaSkreech> >_<
[11:45] <pavel_> I think problem is that is "mobility" card
[11:46] <intelikey> maybeee sew
[11:47] <Frederick> folks quanta package for x86 is broken =/
[11:48] <intelikey> hmmmm another official update that hoses things ?
[11:49] <intelikey> Frederick what do you mean broken and have you filed a bug report ?
[11:49] <Frederick> inc|freaky, Ive not filled it yet, broken = runs once and now siegvigs
[11:51] <intelikey> k
[11:51] <intelikey> what's the major/minor on hdb ?
[11:51] <intelikey> anyone ?
[11:52] <joseph> hi i need to develop stuff with winbind and i need the dev files for whatever kubuntu packages files such as winbindd_nss.h
[11:52] <joseph> what would the package name be?
[11:52] <joseph> thanks in advance, joseph
[11:53] <intelikey> joseph apt-cache [search,show]  <blaw>
[11:53] <intelikey> apt-cache search winbind
[11:55] <joseph> joseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-cache search winbindd_nss.h
[11:55] <joseph> joseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-file search winbindd_nss.h
[11:55] <joseph> i don't see anything m8
[11:56] <joseph> i tried your other suggestion as well
[11:57] <joseph> intelikey: are you there?
[11:57] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: wohooooo... seems to be over... now should i boot from the livecd?
[11:57] <intelikey> joseph just showing you how to search the package database.    normally there will be -dev packages show up.   not for winbind though
[11:57] <cutepinkbunnies> hello
[11:57] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: No reboot and Go into windows
[11:57] <cutepinkbunnies> anyone know of an application for kubuntu that will allow straight C++ programming for terminal (non-gui or gui)?
[11:57] <Catull_Mac> i am
[11:57] <joseph> yeah, so how would i get them?
[11:58] <joseph> i will try asking in #samba, but it's deader than a doorknob
[11:58] <joseph> cutepinkbunnies: vim + g++?
[11:58] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: i am in windows :)
[11:58] <cutepinkbunnies> ok g++ is GUI right?
[11:58] <intelikey> joseph kdevelop might pull in all the kde stuff you need.    as for the file you named. "winbindd_nss.h"  check the source package of winbind    i really don't know
[11:58] <cutepinkbunnies> and vim?
[11:59] <DaSkreech> Control Panel -> Adminstrative Tools -> Computer management
[11:59] <joseph> cutepinkbunnies: have you developed in C++ before?
[11:59] <cutepinkbunnies> I'd like something like Codewarrior Pro
[11:59] <joseph> cutepinkbunnies: g++ == C++ compiler of the GNU Compiler Collection
[11:59] <josh___> whats that firewall for linux?
[11:59] <josh___> oooh firestartedr
[11:59] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: umm.. xp asks me 2 reboot cause new hardware and change in the system^^
[12:00] <intelikey> joseph be sure and install build-essential  if you havent already
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: :-P
[12:00] <intelikey> josh___ it's iptables
[12:00] <pavel_> sorry, how I can connect to another channel?
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Check my thing first
[12:00] <intelikey> josh___ or the older ipchains
[12:00] <pavel_> I use konversations
[12:00] <DaSkreech> pavel_: /join #chan
[12:00] <intelikey> firestarter is just a configuration tool for iptables
[12:01] <DaSkreech> Or if you want to be reaaaaaly lazy type the #channelname then click on it
[12:01] <shane_> Hey i got a question about mp3's. How would I go about finding a room to ask in as to not be off topic?
[12:01] <pavel_> #ubuntu-ru
[12:01] <DaSkreech> !offtopic
[12:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:01] <cutepinkbunnies> joseph: I was looking for something comprable to CodeWarrior Pro from Metaworks I think
[12:02] <joseph> sorry, cutepinkbunnies my connection is selectively dropping packets, if you said anything i didn't get it, my condolences
[12:02] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Found it?
[12:02] <cutepinkbunnies> np
[12:02] <cutepinkbunnies> intelikey suggested kdevelop, is that like codewarriorpro joseph
[12:03] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: no... i have 2 find your description.... matching 2 german names -.-
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Ahh :-)
[12:04] <Catull_Mac> :/
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !de > Catull_Mac :)
[12:04] <intelikey> what's the major/minors on hdb someone ?    is it 3,64  ?
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !de > Catull_Mac
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Stupid Bot :)
[12:05] <Bbetto> hi, my panel desaper
[12:05] <Catull_Mac> daskreech cool -.-
[12:05] <intelikey> can't grin at the bot DaSkreech   hehhe
[12:05] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Get Seveas to work on the facial recognition
[12:06] <Bbetto> i don't see my panel and all the menus like kmenu, home, etc
[12:07] <intelikey> DaSkreech put Bbetto's kicker back in gear for him/her
[12:07] <intelikey> :)
[12:07] <Bbetto> ?????
[12:08] <intelikey> Bbetto the app that produces the pannel is called 'kicker'
[12:08] <intelikey> in kde that is
[12:08] <soulrider> hi everyone