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| Burgundavia | if I go to a team, I cannot see the bugs the team is subscribed to | 06:00 |
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| Burgundavia | is this a known bug? | 06:00 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: https://launchpad.net/people/launchpad-infrastructure/+subscribedbugs <- seems to show some bugs | 06:11 |
| jamesh | can you be more specific? | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-website/+subscribedbugs | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | yet I know there are bugs against ubuntu-website | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | oh, and you really need to fix the UI issue of products and bugs in a distro | 06:13 |
| jamesh | are there any bugs that ubuntu-website is subscribed to? | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | any bug aga\int the website gets it subscribed to | 06:14 |
| jamesh | ah. | 06:14 |
| jamesh | is this "subscribed to" or "also notified"? | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | the 2nd | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | and that is bollocks | 06:14 |
| Burgundavia | subscribed is subscribed and it show up | 06:15 |
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| jamesh | okay, so the bug is that $person/+subscribedbugs does not display bugs that the user is "also notified" about | 06:15 |
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| jamesh | what UI issue were you referring to by "products and bugs in a distro"? | 06:16 |
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| Burgundavia | I go to LP and search for a package in Ubuntu, say "totem" | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | I find it | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | click on bugs and see no bugs listed | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | I see nothing to tell me about bugs in Ubuntu | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | oh, wait, hmm | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | https://launchpad.net/products/mplayer/+bugs <-- here is an exmaple | 06:19 |
| Burgundavia | nowhere on that screen does it even tell me about all the dozens of bugs reported against the Ubuntu product | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | or any other distro, for that matter | 06:20 |
| jamesh | so you ended up on the upstream product page rather than the distro specific page | 06:20 |
| jamesh | and there is no indication of how to get to the source package page | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | pretty much | 06:21 |
| Burgundavia | no idea even that there is a view called "mplayer in Ubuntu" | 06:21 |
| Burgundavia | or Baltix, etc. | 06:21 |
| jamesh | do you think you'd have done better if you'd started off at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu? | 06:22 |
| Burgundavia | yes, but I know that | 06:22 |
| Burgundavia | I shouldn't have to | 06:22 |
| Burgundavia | it also means a lot of extra clicks | 06:22 |
| jamesh | so the fix for this is probably "better front page search" and "make product -> source package linkages more obvious" | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | is "one search bar to rule them all" a spec yet? | 06:24 |
| jamesh | the other way to look at this is "why would I go to https://launchpad.net to search for ubuntu bugs?". I'd be more likely to follow a link from some Ubuntu page, so that should direct you to "Ubuntu in Launchpad" | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | what about this case: | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | people are often told to "go to launchpad" in ubuntu channels/mails | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | those that are not in the know might end up at the front page | 06:27 |
| jamesh | good point | 06:27 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: could you file a bug about the "also notified" bugs not showing on +subscribedbugs, please? | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | can do | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | jamesh: is there a reason also-notified can just be made into a straight subscription? I noticed a bug about making it hard to unsubscribe with also-noified | 06:32 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: the "also notified" people are implicit subscriptions (either a bug contact or subscribers to a duplicate bug) | 06:39 |
| Burgundavia | jamesh: right. Are they modelled differently in the db? | 06:40 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: I think the reason for not making subscribers to duplicate bugs explicit subscribers is in the case of accidental duplication | 06:40 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: yes. When deciding who to spam about a change to a bug, it picks (a) subscribers to the bug, (b) subscribers to bugs marked as duplicates of the bug and (c) initial bug contacts | 06:41 |
| jamesh | there isn't a direct relationship between the "also notified" person and the bug in question | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | I just don't see a use case for not just adding people to the subscription | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | or a group, etc. | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | plus the UI is confusing | 06:42 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: okay. Bug #1 has shitloads of subscribers. Lets say I mark it as a duplicate of bug #42, and then reset it so it isn't a duplicate any more | 06:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1 in ubuntu-meta "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 06:42 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42 in malone "Bug description listed in task is not the correct description" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42 | 06:42 |
| jamesh | Burgundavia: who should be subscribed to bug #42 now? | 06:42 |
| Burgundavia | right | 06:42 |
| jamesh | that's the use case for "also notified" | 06:43 |
| Burgundavia | then people like ubuntu-website should not be the also notified, they should be in the subscribers | 06:43 |
| jamesh | the other is so a new person can set themselves as the initial bug contact for a package and not have to go back and subscribe themselves to all the existing bugs | 06:43 |
| jamesh | so that is handled as an implicit subscription too | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | right | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | this is mostly a UI issue | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | the UI should show all subscriptions and "also notified" should be left explicitly for people coming in from other bugs | 06:44 |
| jamesh | the problem with the +subscribedbugs page is that it is only showing bugs where the person/team is an (a)-type subscriber | 06:45 |
| Burgundavia | either that, or break the maintainers out, explicitly | 06:45 |
| Burgundavia | at any rate, my subscribed page should show me any bug that where i show up in the subscribed page | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/57653 | 06:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57653 in malone ""also notified" bugs not showing on +subscribedbugs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 06:49 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57653 in malone ""also notified" bugs not showing on +subscribedbugs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57653 | 06:55 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57655 in launchpad "Lines in bug comments starting with '>' should be assumed to be quoted text and coloured accordingly" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57655 | 07:05 |
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| lifeless | stub: have you had time to run the upstream release finder again ? | 07:48 |
| jamesh | lifeless: he did and filed bugs 57198 and 57220 | 07:51 |
| lifeless | wasn't that the ftp one that was non-priority ? | 07:53 |
| lifeless | I think we dont need native ftp support, nuke it and use the http proxy alwasy ? | 07:53 |
| jamesh | yeah | 07:53 |
| jamesh | the second bug does need fixing though | 07:54 |
| lifeless | whas the second one about ? | 07:54 |
| jamesh | the product-release-finder blows up if it hits discovers a product release but that release has already been registered in Launchpad | 07:54 |
| jamesh | which happens because the product-release-finder isn't the only thing that can create new product releases (users can too) | 07:55 |
| lifeless | ok. when it finds this it should set the tarball info for that release if its not set | 07:57 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57662 in launchpad "queue reject doesn't" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57662 | 08:20 |
| lifeless | jamesh: ^^ does my comment make sense ? | 08:22 |
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| jamesh | lifeless: yeah. That's basically what I suggested in the last comment. | 08:30 |
| lifeless | excellent | 08:30 |
| lifeless | go forth and bugfix! | 08:30 |
| jamesh | should probably factor out some of the logic there into a a module so we can actually test it | 08:30 |
| lifeless | testschmest | 08:30 |
| lifeless | (did *I* say that?!) | 08:30 |
| jamesh | we still don't have tests for the HTTP walker, but I'm pretty sure it is doing the right thing experimentally ... | 08:31 |
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| mpool | hi | 08:50 |
| mpool | am i really not allowed to change the priority of a spec i just created? :/ | 08:50 |
| lifeless | muhahaha | 08:52 |
| lifeless | what project ? | 08:53 |
| mpool | launchpad-bazaar | 08:53 |
| lifeless | no, you're not a driver there. we should fix that | 08:53 |
| mpool | also why do we have this insane behaviour of turning the description into a comment when it's edited? | 08:53 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57665 in launchpad "can't change the priority of a spec i just created" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57665 | 09:00 |
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| SteveA | morning | 09:10 |
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| lifeless | SteveA: hi, martin wanted to be able to set priority on specs in launchpad-bazaar | 09:13 |
| mpool | hi SteveA | 09:14 |
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| SteveA | hi lifeless, mpool | 09:23 |
| SteveA | mpool: I have a note to ping you this morning. Is it about that, or other things too? | 09:24 |
| lifeless | mpools stepped out, and I'm stepping out now myself | 09:24 |
| lifeless | bye! | 09:24 |
| SteveA | ok, i'll be around | 09:24 |
| sivang | morning | 09:49 |
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| kiko | SteveA, hey | 10:04 |
| kiko | SteveA, ping | 10:12 |
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| SteveA | kiko: hi | 10:18 |
| kiko | SteveA, how's it going | 10:18 |
| SteveA | going well# | 10:19 |
| kiko | cool | 10:19 |
| SteveA | i'm reading through that rosetta thread now | 10:19 |
| kiko | right | 10:19 |
| kiko | do you know anything about phone calls and mark? | 10:19 |
| SteveA | nothing more than yesterday | 10:20 |
| kiko | bummer man | 10:20 |
| kiko | SteveA, wanna have a call anyway? | 10:20 |
| SteveA | sure, cando | 10:21 |
| SteveA | when? | 10:21 |
| SteveA | i'd like to finish this rosetta thread first | 10:21 |
| SteveA | whle it is all in my head still | 10:21 |
| kiko | well, it can be later | 10:21 |
| kiko | wanted to talk to you about our database class split | 10:21 |
| SteveA | how about on the hour? | 10:22 |
| kiko | SteveA, ping me then | 10:27 |
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| SteveA | kiko: ok | 10:38 |
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| jamesh | kiko: got time for a quick review? (in the displaying-paragraphs-of-text) | 10:51 |
| kiko | jamesh, sure | 10:52 |
| jamesh | kiko: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/file8DJjEn.html | 10:52 |
| jamesh | it constrains what is recognised as a URL a bit, so that e.g. http::No-cache=True isn't linkified | 10:53 |
| kiko | mmmkay | 10:53 |
| jamesh | and some of the characters we were treating as URL chars are not actually counted as URL chars even in the old RFC | 10:53 |
| kiko | jamesh, really? | 10:54 |
| jamesh | kiko: yeah | 10:55 |
| jamesh | kiko: the "national" characters aren't actually counted as unreserved in the RFC 1738 grammar | 10:56 |
| jamesh | however the newer spec specifically allows "~" | 10:56 |
| kiko | hmmm. | 10:57 |
| kiko | jamesh, I won't have the braintime for reviewing this today, sorry, it requires char-by-char reading | 10:57 |
| kiko | jamesh, try SteveA? | 10:57 |
| jamesh | kiko: okay. I'll bung it up on the pending-reviews page. | 10:58 |
| jamesh | those regular expressions look a lot like line noise ... | 10:58 |
| kiko | jamesh, ping me on monday if you didn't find somebody. | 10:58 |
| kiko | yeah | 10:58 |
| kiko | I hate regexps | 10:58 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57675 in soyuz "Register need to regenerate a dists subtree in the database" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57675 | 11:00 |
| jamesh | maybe doing string interpolation for the main pattern might make the regexp a bit more readable | 11:00 |
| SteveA | kiko: ping | 11:01 |
| SteveA | j | 11:02 |
| SteveA | jamesh: we can talk about this after my call with kiko | 11:02 |
| SteveA | me, i love regexps | 11:02 |
| kiko | SteveA, how about I call you when I leave for the london office? that way I can take advantage of the time in the DLR? | 11:03 |
| SteveA | what time will that be? | 11:03 |
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| kiko | in a few hours, SteveA | 11:04 |
| SteveA | maybe, but maybe not | 11:04 |
| SteveA | i have varioius calls today, and also getting mpt to the airport | 11:04 |
| SteveA | so, take a chance if you like, or i'm available for sure right now | 11:04 |
| kiko | SteveA, I'll take the change, in a discussion | 11:05 |
| SteveA | the chance? | 11:05 |
| SteveA | fine, just call me when you're ready | 11:05 |
| jamesh | kiko: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filePcq69J.html <- a version with some of the common line noise collapsed | 11:05 |
| SteveA | jamesh: what do you want me to look at? | 11:05 |
| SteveA | jamesh: that link? | 11:06 |
| jamesh | SteveA: yeah | 11:06 |
| SteveA | ok | 11:06 |
| jamesh | SteveA: trying to reduce the number of non-URLs that get matched as URLs | 11:06 |
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| SteveA | you don't need to use backslash escaping inside [] | 11:09 |
| jamesh | good point. I probably need it to escape "-" though | 11:10 |
| SteveA | unless it is first | 11:11 |
| jamesh | okay. I've got r"-a-zA-Z0-9._~%!$&'()*+,;=" as the main block of unreserved chars now | 11:13 |
| SteveA | @ | 11:14 |
| SteveA | also | 11:14 |
| jamesh | hmm? | 11:14 |
| SteveA | zope3 urls use /@@foo | 11:14 |
| jamesh | which is allowed in the path components | 11:14 |
| sivang | jamesh: why the preceeding '-' for 'a', 'z' ? | 11:15 |
| jamesh | the section of the regexp for matching path components is (?: / [%(unreserved)s:@] * )* | 11:15 |
| SteveA | ok | 11:15 |
| SteveA | sivang: it means 'a literal -' | 11:15 |
| SteveA | compare: | 11:15 |
| SteveA | [a-z] | 11:15 |
| SteveA | [-a-z] | 11:15 |
| SteveA | [a-z\-] | 11:15 |
| sivang | right, which is a range | 11:15 |
| jamesh | sivang: "-" is used for matching ranges of chars in patterns unless it is first | 11:15 |
| SteveA | the last two are equivalent | 11:15 |
| sivang | ah, cool | 11:16 |
| jamesh | SteveA: I originally wasn't factoring out the unreserved chars. Do you think it is more or less confusing how I've got it? | 11:16 |
| SteveA | it is more-or-less confusing any way around :-) | 11:17 |
| SteveA | i think it helps to use the RFC in this way | 11:17 |
| SteveA | it wil make maintenance of the code easier | 11:17 |
| SteveA | so we can see what the rfc says, and then how we have chosen to do things differently | 11:17 |
| SteveA | I have one other note on how to factor this code | 11:19 |
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| SteveA | in webapp, we have a URL class | 11:19 |
| SteveA | I want us to have a really useful URL type in our webapp infrastructure | 11:19 |
| SteveA | so, rather than being just in DPOT, some of these regexes, that are directly related to the RFC, could be in that URL class | 11:20 |
| SteveA | and that class could have facilities for matching URLs in text, for example | 11:21 |
| jamesh | okay. We'd need to substitute in the regexp directly though, since these substitutions really need to be done in a single pass | 11:21 |
| kiko | +1 SteveA | 11:21 |
| SteveA | have a think about that, whether it makes sense | 11:21 |
| kiko | having that in DPoT is weird | 11:21 |
| SteveA | kiko: it makes sense, considering the role of DPoT | 11:21 |
| jamesh | I mean doing multiple passes (one for bug links and OOPS strings, then one for URLs) would break | 11:22 |
| SteveA | but there may be a better arrangement considering the codebase as a whole | 11:22 |
| SteveA | jamesh: I agree. Have a think about the issue, and see what kind of thing would make sense | 11:22 |
| SteveA | imagine if there's other code where we want to extract URLs... like from an incoming email | 11:22 |
| SteveA | it is straightforward to take a regex for matching URLs and combine it with others, for example | 11:23 |
| SteveA | provided the names used for the various matching parts don't overlap | 11:23 |
| SteveA | if anything, the RFC-regex text could go in the URL class in webapp | 11:24 |
| SteveA | then be extended in DPoT with our DPoT policy | 11:24 |
| jamesh | We've got another case already: IBugWatchSet.fromText() and fromMessage() | 11:24 |
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| SteveA | jamesh: I've had on my todo list to make the URL class really good, for a while | 11:25 |
| SteveA | maybe you'd like to take this on as a mini project? | 11:25 |
| SteveA | to make a good URL class for our webapp infrastrcuture | 11:25 |
| SteveA | it's used in the menus code in particular right now | 11:25 |
| SteveA | python std lib has just a bunch of functions | 11:25 |
| SteveA | which are arguably broken anyway, wrt encodings | 11:25 |
| SteveA | I'd like to see more of an OO approach | 11:26 |
| jamesh | they currently run one regexp over the text for each tracker URL type and then make the watches -- being able to iterate through all the URLs in the document might be a better way | 11:26 |
| SteveA | jamesh: what do you think? how does the idea of such a mini-projet appeal to you? | 11:26 |
| jamesh | okay. | 11:26 |
| SteveA | awesome | 11:26 |
| SteveA | when you've got some sketch / ideas together | 11:27 |
| SteveA | we should have an infrastructure call to kick other ideas around | 11:28 |
| danilos | carlos: I think we should mark bug 56621 as duplicate of bug 351, explaining that fuzzy is actually needs-review in Rosetta (so, it's not really "fuzzy" as coming from gettext) | 11:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56621 in rosetta "Color of fuzzy strings should be different" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56621 | 11:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 351 in rosetta "Rosetta keeps reporting a wrong status (color bar) for translations" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/351 | 11:32 |
| danilos | carlos: or should we leave it if we're planning to have both in the near future? | 11:32 |
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| carlos | danilos: I don't know... | 11:38 |
| carlos | danilos: in fact, current 'Needs review' is more fuzzy as comming from gettext | 11:41 |
| carlos | because we don't use that translation if the flag is set | 11:41 |
| danilos | carlos: I know, I know | 11:43 |
| danilos | carlos: but the "meaning" is not really the same | 11:43 |
| danilos | carlos: and obviously, translators familiar with fuzzy get confused | 11:44 |
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| carlos | well, it is for the strings comming from .po files | 11:44 |
| danilos | so we might simply explain that they are the same thing for the time being | 11:44 |
| carlos | righ | 11:44 |
| carlos | right | 11:44 |
| carlos | I think so | 11:44 |
| danilos | or that we're using fuzzy tag to mark strings as needing review | 11:44 |
| carlos | until we implement the fuzzy spec | 11:44 |
| danilos | yeah | 11:44 |
| danilos | I just don't want to leave a bug report without any response | 11:45 |
| carlos | danilos: yeah, that's a good policy. We should follow it more often :-( | 11:47 |
| danilos | carlos: can you remind me how do I link it to a specification? | 11:49 |
| danilos | or do I need to link bug from specification? | 11:49 |
| carlos | I think you need to do it from the specification | 11:50 |
| lucasvo | are there rss feeds for bugs and other things in launchpad so one can use them to include them into a page? | 11:51 |
| lucasvo | or an API? | 11:52 |
| kiko | lucasvo, not yet, but soon. | 11:53 |
| lucasvo | why is it taking more than 10 days to import a language file into Rosetta? | 11:56 |
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| lucasvo | there were no changes in this list for a couple of days: https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports/+index?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=po | 11:56 |
| kiko | carlos, danilos: can you get an answer to lucasvo please? | 11:57 |
| carlos | lucasvo: because we are importing 2 months of changes for Edgy | 11:58 |
| carlos | lucasvo: and the process is busy with the first batch: https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports/+index?target=all&status=APPROVED&type=all | 11:58 |
| lucasvo | carlos: and you need a personal review? | 11:58 |
| carlos | no | 11:58 |
| lucasvo | carlos: and why does it take so long? | 11:58 |
| carlos | lucasvo: well, the process started last Tuesday | 11:59 |
| lucasvo | carlos: ehm, my file is in the queue for about 11 days | 11:59 |
| carlos | lucasvo: so it cannot be there for 10 days unless you requested a product upload that Jordi didn't handle yet... | 11:59 |
| lucasvo | that's a bummer | 11:59 |
| carlos | lucasvo: where are you uploading it? | 11:59 |
| lucasvo | carlos: https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports/+index?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=po | 11:59 |
| lucasvo | search for harmony | 11:59 |
| lucasvo | Uploaded by lucasvo on 2006-08-14 23:27:06 CEST | 12:00 |
| lucasvo | django.po in Harmony Series: trunk | 12:00 |
| carlos | lucasvo: that needs a manual review | 12:00 |
| lucasvo | carlos: why? | 12:00 |
| carlos | lucasvo: because initial upload should be reviewed to be sure that maintainers wants to use Rosetta | 12:00 |
| carlos | lucasvo: jordi handles such review | 12:01 |
| carlos | and I guess he missed it because it's a .po file instead of using the .pot file extension | 12:01 |
| carlos | jordi: hi, are you around? | 12:01 |
| lucasvo | carlos: should I convert them to .pot first? | 12:01 |
| carlos | lucasvo: once the initial upload is approved, new uploads are automatically imported | 12:01 |
| carlos | lucasvo: no, that's fine it's just a file rename and we can handle it directly | 12:02 |
| carlos | lucasvo: from what I see there, I guess you are one of the maintainers of Harmony, right? | 12:05 |
| lucasvo | carlos: yes I am | 12:06 |
| lucasvo | I am the owner of the LP team | 12:07 |
| carlos | ok, then that's enough to import Harmony | 12:08 |
| carlos | lucasvo: we don't have a way (yet) to automatically update the .pot and .po files from your repository | 12:08 |
| carlos | so you should handle that task to update Rosetta data from time to time | 12:08 |
| lucasvo | carlos: how should rosetta import it? | 12:09 |
| lucasvo | from bzr branch? | 12:09 |
| carlos | yeah, that's the main way we are going to implement to do automatic imports for products | 12:10 |
| carlos | lucasvo: https://launchpad.net/products/harmony/trunk/+pots/django | 12:13 |
| carlos | lucasvo: done | 12:13 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57683 in malone "only sends one mail per product/package" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57683 | 12:26 |
| jordi | hey carlos | 12:27 |
| carlos | jordi: hi | 12:27 |
| carlos | jordi: don't worry I already handled the .pot import for Harmony | 12:28 |
| jordi | lucasvo: I normally check that the people who upload new files are involved in the development of the application | 12:28 |
| jordi | lucasvo: that's the main reason it sometimes takes some time | 12:28 |
| carlos | jordi: could you give the ownership of https://launchpad.net/people/gnu-l10n-it to rosetta-admins and leave the team? (unless you want to translate into italian...) | 12:29 |
| jordi | presto! | 12:29 |
| carlos | thanks | 12:30 |
| carlos | jordi: so, you changed from Administrator to Administrator.... what a big change ;-) | 12:35 |
| carlos | https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filebA1MWs.html | 12:35 |
| jordi | your bug :) | 12:36 |
| carlos | not mine ;-) | 12:36 |
| jordi | you did this too for maori :) | 12:36 |
| carlos | I don't handle teams code! | 12:36 |
| jordi | gee, the sodium password I never figure out | 12:36 |
| carlos | I don't read my emails ;-) just the others :-P | 12:36 |
| carlos | It's just the email with the change notification | 12:37 |
| jordi | it's buggy :) | 12:38 |
| jordi | and it includes a "None" string at the end :) | 12:38 |
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| carlos | jordi: btw, could you notify Neil that hu.po and de.po file imports failed due a bad file format? (I just checked it) | 12:53 |
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| carlos | hmmm, so Edgy is adding a good feature for Rosetta... Firefox with spell checking integrated ;-) | 01:24 |
| kiko | heh | 01:25 |
| carlos | It just should select the right dictionary based on the language attribute we put in our textareas | 01:27 |
| carlos | but other than that... | 01:28 |
| jordi | carlos: have you checked the German file? | 01:38 |
| carlos | jordi: both | 01:38 |
| carlos | msgfmt complained | 01:38 |
| jordi | I see it | 01:39 |
| seb128 | carlos: hey. Did you get the evolution-2.8 template with the package update? | 01:50 |
| carlos | seb128: yes | 01:51 |
| carlos | and I already renamed the translation domain | 01:51 |
| seb128 | carlos: ok, thank you | 01:51 |
| carlos | tomorrow's lang packs should get it fixed | 01:51 |
| carlos | np | 01:51 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57698 in malone "+packagebugs-search crashes when no query string is passed." [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57698 | 02:50 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57705 in launchpad-support-tracker "Broken link in SourcePackage +tickets page." [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57705 | 03:45 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57708 in soyuz "Language pack uploads require manual intervention" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57708 | 03:55 |
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| elmo | NOTICE: the Launchpad librarian is going down in 10 minutes time for an hour; launchpad itself will still be up, bug anything that uses the librarian for file storage (bug attachments, build logs, hackergotchis etc.) will be unavailable | 04:48 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57715 in malone "Lost comments on bug #57607" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57715 | 04:55 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57723 in launchpad "bzr: ERROR: Invalid range access." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57723 | 05:35 |
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| elmo | librarian is back | 05:47 |
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| flacoste | how do we merge account? | 06:15 |
| flacoste | I mean can a user merge two accounts he owns? | 06:15 |
| flacoste | there is a support request open on launchpad-support-tracker about that | 06:15 |
| flacoste | https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad-support-tracker/+ticket/1541 | 06:16 |
| salgado | flacoste, yes, https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge | 06:18 |
| flacoste | salgado: thanks and is there a menu link to that page somewhere? | 06:18 |
| flacoste | salgado: we don't have any support contacts for the launchpad-support-tracker | 06:18 |
| salgado | but in that case the guy doesn't have access to one of the account's email address anymore | 06:18 |
| salgado | flacoste, there's a link to that page in https://launchpad.net/people | 06:19 |
| flacoste | what do we do when the user doesn't have access to the duplicated email? | 06:20 |
| salgado | and in launchpad.net/people/<name>/, in case you're logged in and the <name> account hasn't been claimed yet | 06:20 |
| salgado | flacoste, we have to ask one of the launchpad admins to do the merge --there's an admin interface for these cases | 06:20 |
| flacoste | salgado: I'm willing to add myself as support contact, but we might want to also add the Launchpad QA team | 06:21 |
| salgado | flacoste, yeah, I think we should do that. are you a member of that team? | 06:22 |
| flacoste | salgado: nope | 06:22 |
| flacoste | flacoste: I could be if they want me :-) | 06:22 |
| salgado | flacoste, I'll ask matsubara to do that when he comes back, then | 06:22 |
| salgado | (I'm not a member of that team either) | 06:23 |
| flacoste | salgado: great, who are launchpad admins? | 06:23 |
| salgado | launchpad.net/people/admins | 06:23 |
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| flacoste | kiko, stevea, lifeless, stub: there is a support request for merging two accounts in which the user doesn't access to one email anymore: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad-support-tracker/+ticket/1541 | 06:24 |
| flacoste | salgado: do you have a few minutes? | 06:37 |
| salgado | flacoste, sure | 06:37 |
| flacoste | salgado: i was about to fix bug 57705 | 06:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57705 in launchpad-support-tracker "Broken link in SourcePackage +tickets page." [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57705 | 06:38 |
| flacoste | but i'm wondering if I should just remove the link or write a +gethelp page which would make sense in the distribution source package context | 06:39 |
| flacoste | i first tried to register the same template that worked on source package but i noticed a few problems | 06:39 |
| flacoste | 1) i need also to register +portlet-translations | 06:40 |
| flacoste | 2) there is a test asking users for product series information that seems to be always present | 06:40 |
| flacoste | and the +packaging page isn't available on the distribution source package context | 06:40 |
| flacoste | so, what do you think is the best option: copy the +gethelp template and remove what doesn't make sense in the distrosourcepackage context or just remove the link? | 06:41 |
| salgado | afaik, the +gethelp page is mainly an entry point for people comming from the "Help -> Get Help Online ..." menu item on ubuntu gnome applications, right? | 06:43 |
| salgado | if you port that page to the distribution source package context, you won't be able to link to the +addticket of that context, because it doesn't have one | 06:46 |
| salgado | so, another possible solution, although a bit evil (since it changes your context), would be to make the +gethelp link on /ubuntu/+source/foo point to /ubuntu/<latest-release>/+source/foo/+gethelp | 06:47 |
| salgado | IOW, I think we'd have to cripple the page in order to make it work on this context, so I'd rather remove the link or redirect | 06:49 |
| salgado | flacoste, ^ | 06:49 |
| flacoste | salgado: fwimw, the +addticket is working on the distribution source package context | 06:50 |
| salgado | flacoste, ah, I didn't know that -- it doesn't work in staging | 06:50 |
| flacoste | and yes, +gethelp is mainly the entry point for 'Get Help Online...' | 06:50 |
| salgado | did you fix that in your branch? | 06:50 |
| flacoste | salgado: nope | 06:51 |
| flacoste | salgado: it does work on staging, if you visite https://staging.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/putty/+tickets and click 'Request Support' you'll land on the +addticket page | 06:51 |
| salgado | aaaargh | 06:52 |
| salgado | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+sources/firefox/ works | 06:52 |
| salgado | but https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+sources/firefox/ doesn't | 06:52 |
| flacoste | salgado: where does this +sources come from? | 06:52 |
| salgado | it must be https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/ | 06:52 |
| salgado | I don't know. :) | 06:53 |
| salgado | maybe I typed it | 06:53 |
| flacoste | salgado: ok, i use the UI and it uses +source link | 06:53 |
| salgado | okay, then forget what I said about having to cripple the page | 06:54 |
| flacoste | but do you think it still makes sense to have the 'Help and support options' page on the distribution source package page | 06:55 |
| flacoste | it is a hard page to get to: search for package in the distribution then click on the source package | 06:55 |
| salgado | yeah, maybe it makes sense to have it, but I don't think it's really necessary | 06:56 |
| flacoste | salgado: well, editing the template to remove the product series check and translation portlet isn't hard either | 06:56 |
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| salgado | right, but I don't see much benefit in having that page, so I think I'd be okay to just remove the link and avoid future breakage caused by having two almost identical versions of the same template | 06:58 |
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| flacoste | salgado: i agree, let's remove the link | 06:58 |
| salgado | we could workaround that, but I don't think we should spend much time on this | 06:58 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57742 in malone "xmlrpc filebug API raises TypeError exception" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57742 | 07:35 |
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| jkakar | Can I expect the supermirror to slurp up new revisions in mirrored branches at least once every 24h? | 08:07 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57751 in launchpad ""Show only bugs with patches available" has no effect" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57751 | 08:25 |
| salgado | BjornT, around? | 08:34 |
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| bradb | /j #canonical screenshotssuck | 08:36 |
| bradb | damn | 08:36 |
| BjornT | salgado: yeah, i'm around, but not for long. | 08:38 |
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| salgado | BjornT, just wanted to check if you've seen my reply to your review... is it okay to merge that branch with the changes I described in that email? | 08:38 |
| BjornT | salgado: i'll take a quick look now | 08:40 |
| BjornT | salgado: it looks good | 08:46 |
| salgado | BjornT, cool. ta! | 08:47 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57756 in rosetta "Empty search in /potemplatenames crashes" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57756 | 09:15 |
| flacoste | bradb: ping | 09:42 |
| bradb | flacoste: pong | 09:46 |
| flacoste | bradb: I've stumbled across something weird in mailnotification | 09:47 |
| flacoste | there is a function update_security_contact_subscriptions which subscribes the security contact to the bug on product change | 09:48 |
| flacoste | this seems to go against the use of indirect subscribers? | 09:48 |
| bradb | flacoste: there are three types of indirect subscribers: assignees, bug contacts, and from dupes | 09:49 |
| flacoste | bradb: ok, security contact isn't an indirect subscriber | 09:50 |
| bradb | nope. security bugs are private by default, and indirect subscriptions don't apply to private bugs. | 09:50 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #57759 in launchpad "Accessing +mergerequest-sent page after successfully completing the merging process crashes." [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57759 | 09:50 |
| flacoste | bradb: hmm, ok, but what about public security bug? | 09:51 |
| bradb | flacoste: True. The line between explicit and implicit security contacts in that case may be somewhat arbitrary. | 09:54 |
| flacoste | bradb: so it means that you subscribe explicitely the security contact to each security bug? | 09:55 |
| flacoste | bradb: so if the security contact change, the old one is still subscribed to the old security bugs? | 09:55 |
| bradb | flacoste: yeah. now that privacy and security have been collapsed into one box on filebug, i have to wonder how often the code in question is even being touched. | 09:58 |
| flacoste | bradb: anyway, this was just a question, I'll leave it to you if this is worth a bug or an XXX in the code or just forget about it ;-) | 09:59 |
| bradb | flacoste: right. my mind is kind of elsewhere atm, so maybe i'll file a bug to think about it more later. something smells not quite right. | 10:01 |
| bradb | Hm, or maybe not, I dunno. ISTR that security contacts need to unsubscribe from bugs, which is one of the reasons they were explicit. | 10:05 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57762 in launchpad-cal "Repetitive SQL query while generating a calendar." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57762 | 10:45 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #57765 in soyuz "+packaging link in the distrorelease sourcepackage page should be more obvious" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57765 | 11:40 |
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