[12:19] <Viper550> Hello
[09:31] <troy_s> kwwii_, fschoep around?
[09:47] <kwwii_> moin
[09:47] <kwwii_> hi troy_s
[09:51] <fschoep> troy_s: I'm here.
[10:05] <cbx33> ping fschoep
[10:05] <fschoep> hi
[10:05] <cbx33> how are you
[10:05] <fschoep> Fine, thanks. You?
[10:05] <cbx33> yeh good
[10:05] <cbx33> progbox.co.uk/finals
[10:05] <cbx33> there is a new one....for the boot up sounds :p
[10:05] <cbx33> just a quick ideas test
[10:06] <fschoep> OK, hold on - it's loading kind of slow for
[10:06] <fschoep> me
[10:06] <fschoep> I still see the old ones?
[10:06] <fschoep> three final-samples and eleven samples
[10:07] <cbx33> yes
[10:07] <cbx33> in the eleven there is one called
[10:07] <cbx33> boot or smething
[10:07] <fschoep> I think I don't see it on my side of the universe?
[10:07] <cbx33> no...
[10:07] <cbx33> me neither that's odd
[10:07] <cbx33> hang on
[10:08] <fschoep> OK
[10:09] <cbx33> ok it;s there now
[10:09] <fschoep> Great, have you got an MP3 ;) ?
[10:09] <cbx33> I'll make on hang on
[10:09] <fschoep> Yesterday I used Audacity in Dapper to convert them, I could do that again but I'd need to reboot for it.
[10:09] <fschoep> So, thanks if you do it
[10:10] <cbx33> done
[10:10] <fschoep> Wow, that's fast, thanks
[10:10] <fschoep> Ah, this short sound should be played on boot, like the Mac "bong"?
[10:10] <cbx33> yes
[10:12] <fschoep> Well, it'd certainly fit in there
[10:12] <fschoep> Did you use one of the final-samples as a base theme for it?
[10:16] <cbx33> no not really....
[10:47] <DrDoom> o_O
[10:48] <fschoep> Hey DrDoom what's happening
[10:49] <DrDoom> fschoep, nothing much
[10:49] <fschoep> OK
[10:49] <DrDoom> I'm trying to theme like some of these people on the ubuntuforums gallery ;)
[10:49] <fschoep> Hehe
[10:49] <DrDoom> It's not working very well :)
[10:49] <fschoep> It isn't?
[10:50] <fschoep> It's probably hard to find tutorials?
[10:50] <DrDoom> nah, they are too good
[10:50] <DrDoom> yeah
[10:50] <fschoep> I know the problem
[10:50] <fschoep> We're having some trouble with this in the artwork team itself as well.
[10:51] <DrDoom> It's hard getting a good theme.
[10:51] <DrDoom> Or at least shaping one.
[10:51] <fschoep> Indeed
[10:51] <fschoep> Creating mockups is easy, but implementing is difficult.
[10:51] <fschoep> I do have some links for you if you want
[10:52] <DrDoom> Oh yes.
[10:52] <fschoep> It's not much, but here you go:
[10:52] <fschoep> GTK2:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkEngines
[10:52] <fschoep> Metacity:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[10:52] <fschoep> GDM:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GdmThemes
[10:53] <fschoep> If you enjoy creating themes, you might consider applying for doing a theme for Edgy +1?
[10:54] <DrDoom> Interesting.
[10:54] <DrDoom> fschoep, I'd need to practice creating them more for that =)
[10:54] <fschoep> DrDoom: no you don't :) We've got people doing some with all kinds of experience levels :)
[10:54] <fschoep> Doing something is the best way of learning it :)
[10:55] <DrDoom> True.
[10:55] <DrDoom> Why are you guys in need of people?
[10:55] <fschoep> Why?
[10:56] <DrDoom> Just wondering.
[10:56] <fschoep> Basically because we've got big plans!
[10:56] <fschoep> And we're working hard on getting those done.
[10:56] <DrDoom> I liked the Dapper theme.
[10:56] <fschoep> That's good!
[10:56] <fschoep> We're refining it a bit for Edgy but it won't change too much.
[10:56] <DrDoom> Aw, I was hoping it was going to be even better!
[10:56] <fschoep> At least, the GTK2 theme won't change much.
[10:57] <fschoep> We're making it better, gradually.
[10:57] <DrDoom> I like how it ships with GNOME.
[10:57] <fschoep> I see.
[10:58] <fschoep> Have you got good ideas for polishing the GTK theme?
[10:59] <DrDoom> I'd have to think about that more, I am constantly unsatisfied when it comes to the UI.
[10:59] <DrDoom> lol
[11:00] <fschoep> Hehe :0
[11:00] <fschoep> Would you like doing some artwork for Edgy?
[11:00] <DrDoom> fschoep, possibly...i'm not too awake right now though
[11:00] <fschoep> We're working on designs for the usplash, login manager theme, login splash and wallpaper. We can use your help :)
[11:01] <DrDoom> i am on because i could not sleep that well
[11:01] <DrDoom> Ah, one thing that I don't really like is the login manager theme.
[11:01] <fschoep> Would you consider joining the artwork team?
[11:02] <fschoep> It doesn't take much, just some skills with graphical design.
[11:02] <DrDoom> I would, but I can't promise anything.
[11:02] <fschoep> No problem, we're all volunteers, so don't worry.
[11:03] <DrDoom> Hehe, pretty amazing product that comes out of volunteers.
[11:03] <DrDoom> Most people expect the $$$
[11:04] <fschoep> Thanks :)
[11:05] <fschoep> A good start would be joining the artwork mailing list and probably adding yourself to the ubuntu-art team on Launchpad.
[11:05] <DrDoom> fschoep, so where do you stand in all this?
[11:05] <fschoep> I'm the "Artist in Chief" for Edgy.
[11:06] <fschoep> So I kind of lead everyone through the whole process of getting the artwork done.
[11:06] <DrDoom> Wow, impressive.
[11:06] <cbx33> fschoep, is doing an excellent job
[11:06] <cbx33> he's great to work for :p
[11:06] <fschoep> Hehe, thanks cbx33 :)
[11:07] <cbx33> well I really mean it dude, your encouragement and comments help me make great art :p
[11:07] <fschoep> OK, thanks - it's almost embarrassing :)
[11:08] <DrDoom> ha
[11:09] <cbx33> heheh
[11:09] <cbx33> then poits and laughs....hehehe :p
[11:11] <irawan> leave
[11:12] <DrDoom> fschoep, I'm very tired now....I will come back in and talk tomorrow ok?
[11:12] <cbx33> cool DrDoom
[11:12] <DrDoom> Goodnight all!
[11:12] <fschoep> DrDoom: sure, we'll be here all times you expect us to be!
[11:12] <fschoep> I hope he got that :)
[12:41] <troy_s> fschoep
[12:41] <troy_s> ping fschoep
[12:41] <troy_s> middle of morn here.
[12:42] <kwwii__> one second, I told him
[12:44] <troy_s> greets kwwii__
[12:44] <kwwii__> howdy troy_s
[12:44] <Cadet> Hi.
[12:45] <troy_s> lil groggy here... where the hell is franko
[12:45] <troy_s> greetings cadet
[12:45] <troy_s> how are you doing?
[12:45] <Cadet> thank's, i'm doing good thank's
[12:46] <Cadet> so you guys do all the ubuntu artwork eh?
[12:48] <troy_s> well actually the bulk of the artwork thus far
[12:48] <troy_s> has been paid for and created by others.
[12:49] <troy_s> kwwii__: is he close to you?
[12:49] <kwwii__> yeah, he is sitting behind me
[12:49] <troy_s> behind you???
[12:49] <kwwii__> but he said he won't go into chat before lunch
[12:49] <troy_s> diff table no doubt i hope :)
[12:49] <kwwii__> so it'll be an hour or two
[12:49] <troy_s> call him a weiner for me
[12:49] <troy_s> grr.
[12:49] <troy_s> okie... well i guess i'll go back to sleep.
[12:50] <troy_s> did shuttlebot show up at weis?
[12:51] <troy_s> kwwii__: tell him i'll try to be back in a while, if i wake up again (late call today)
[12:51] <kwwii__> yepp, mark was here until this morning
[12:51] <kwwii__> we all went out last night
[12:51] <kwwii__> I will tell him
[12:51] <troy_s> goot.
[12:51] <troy_s> out for a while.
[12:51] <kwwii__> have fun :-)
[12:52] <Madpilot> when did Mark aquire the nickname "shuttlebot"?
[12:52] <kwwii__> hehehe
[12:52] <kwwii__> I did not say that :p
[02:21] <lloydinho> hey kwwii_ - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment
[02:22] <kwwii_> lloydinho: thanks man
[02:23] <lloydinho> be sure to check out the smilies - they're a hoot!
[02:23] <kwwii_> :-)
[02:38] <msikma> Yeah man, that is one awesome icon set
[02:40] <msikma> I especially like that all the icons have custom-made shadows as opposed to an auto-generated one.
[02:41] <msikma> It does bother me that they face to the left. I've learned that, if given the choice, you should always make something face to the right, into writing direction.
[02:41] <msikma> But that's a minor gripe.
[02:52] <lapo> that icon theme is coming along nicelly I'm happy they are using our metaphors
[03:19] <troy_s> fschoep:
[03:19] <fschoep> troy_s: Hi, what's up?
[03:20] <troy_s> there he is...
[03:26] <lapo> http://xoomer.alice.it/bat/thos/navx.png I tweaked up go-home a bit is it better?
[03:26] <lapo> uhm...sorry wrong win