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| bluefoxicy | I am lolling at this. | 02:04 |
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| bluefoxicy | my kernel is getting pissed off | 02:05 |
| bluefoxicy | I keep doing dd if=/bin/cat of=/dev/{zero,null} | 02:05 |
| bluefoxicy | and it has random processes crash or random oopses happen as a reaction. | 02:05 |
| HrdwrBoB | /dev/zero isn't for writing to | 02:07 |
| bluefoxicy | I noticed! :D | 02:07 |
| bluefoxicy | aww now dd just segfaults | 02:08 |
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| Fujitsu | It really shouldn't do that... | 02:11 |
| Fujitsu | You're not meant to write to it, but it really shouldn't crash. | 02:11 |
| keescook | the kernel is allergic to /bin/cats, I guess. | 02:12 |
| mjg59 | It's a broken kernel of some description | 02:12 |
| bluefoxicy | I filed a bug, you figure it out. | 02:12 |
| === Fujitsu dds urandom to /dev/zero. | ||
| bluefoxicy | I think it might take more than that | 02:13 |
| Fujitsu | Not doing much, nor does cat. | 02:13 |
| bluefoxicy | mine crashed wine | 02:13 |
| bluefoxicy | the dd seemed to be the trigger; a second one (pointed at /dev/null) caused another oops but further just segfault dd | 02:13 |
| mjg59 | bluefoxicy: The oopses would be interesting | 02:13 |
| mjg59 | I suspect that something else has blown up at some earlier point | 02:13 |
| mjg59 | Whose kernel is this, and are you running any local patches? | 02:14 |
| bluefoxicy | bug 57642 mjg | 02:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57642 in linux-source-2.6.17 "kernel bug, you figure it out." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57642 | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds like a nasty kernel bug... | 02:14 |
| bluefoxicy | and full call trace I might add. | 02:14 |
| mjg59 | That's an utterly implausible failure | 02:14 |
| mjg59 | Looks like you've got heavy memory corruption | 02:15 |
| bluefoxicy | probably. | 02:15 |
| mjg59 | This is entirely the kernel we ship? | 02:15 |
| mjg59 | No local patches at all? | 02:15 |
| bluefoxicy | i'm FAR too lazy to roll my own | 02:15 |
| bluefoxicy | so yes it's yours :) | 02:15 |
| Fujitsu | Dud RAM? | 02:16 |
| bluefoxicy | Fujitsu: curious, did dd segfault at all? | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | No. | 02:16 |
| mjg59 | Utterly unreproducible here | 02:16 |
| bluefoxicy | Fujitsu: I'm actually pretty stable | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | Not at all. | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | Run a memtest lately, bluefoxicy? | 02:16 |
| bluefoxicy | besides dd being a dumbass | 02:16 |
| bluefoxicy | no, but I will on next reboot. | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | OK, good... | 02:16 |
| === bluefoxicy hits the repos for an update first. | ||
| Fujitsu | 'cause I've just tried it on three machines, nothing happens. | 02:16 |
| bluefoxicy | Fujitsu: i'm thinking something else caused the problem and the kernel just freaked out at dd at random | 02:17 |
| bluefoxicy | could have been wine | 02:17 |
| Fujitsu | Corrupting bits of kernel memory? I doubt it. | 02:18 |
| HrdwrBoB | while true;do sudo dd if=/bin/cat of=/dev/zero bs=1 count=512; done did nothing here | 02:20 |
| Fujitsu | Same, that's similar to what I did. | 02:21 |
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| bluefoxicy | dmesg | grep BUG | 02:21 |
| zul | i think its just memory corruption | 02:21 |
| bluefoxicy | it probably is, but the question is is it programmatic and if so why | 02:21 |
| zul | because you did something weird? | 02:22 |
| bluefoxicy | well, I did nothing at kernel level | 02:22 |
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| crimsun | bluefoxicy: it would be considerably more helpful when you use descriptive summaries instead of "kernel bug, you figure it out." | 02:22 |
| bluefoxicy | crimsun: it would definitely be more helpful; however that's all I got | 02:23 |
| bluefoxicy | it's inobvious what the problem is and the kernel basically said exactly that | 02:23 |
| keescook | One possible summary could be "kernel oops while using dd on /dev/zero" | 02:23 |
| bluefoxicy | 20% done with updates, will reboot in a few minutes to pummel memory | 02:23 |
| bluefoxicy | keescook: I'm pretty sure it's not a /dev/zero bug | 02:24 |
| bluefoxicy | especially since nobody else can trigger it that way | 02:24 |
| Fujitsu | But it's a start. | 02:24 |
| bluefoxicy | I did put that at the end of the report though. | 02:24 |
| azeem | bluefoxicy: maybe you're a special kind of zero | 02:24 |
| bluefoxicy | a super zero? | 02:24 |
| Fujitsu | But in the summary is probably a better idea, as people look at the summary first. | 02:25 |
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| HrdwrBoB | that being the purpose of a summary | 02:29 |
| HrdwrBoB | summary: "see description for details" isn't a summary | 02:29 |
| bluefoxicy | goin' down | 02:33 |
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| bddebian | Heya folks | 03:03 |
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| bluefoxicy | memtest did a full pass, says I'm fine | 03:17 |
| bddebian | That's debatable :-) | 03:17 |
| bluefoxicy | YES! | 03:22 |
| bluefoxicy | Elena says she'll try to get the pie patches submitted for inclusion in gdb mainline! | 03:22 |
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| nags | Hi | 07:49 |
| nags | how do I configure domain name in Breezy ? | 07:49 |
| nags | my IP address is obtained from a DHCP server (LAN) | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | /etc/hosts ? | 07:49 |
| nags | but it doesn't get the host name | 07:49 |
| === nags checking | ||
| nags | Sp4rKy, but with dynamic IP how can I set the host name ? I mean in /ect/hosts we need to specify the IP address also, right ? | 07:50 |
| Sp4rKy | i'm not sure | 07:51 |
| nags | hmmm | 07:51 |
| nags | can somebody help me ? | 07:51 |
| Sp4rKy | try setting youhostname with 127.0.0.1 ip on the same line | 07:51 |
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| infinity | 127.0.0.1 localhost | 07:52 |
| infinity | 127.0.1.1 cthulhu.0c3.net cthulhu | 07:52 |
| infinity | (for example) | 07:52 |
| nags | Sp4rKy, ya tried, but no luck | 07:52 |
| Sp4rKy | &:/ | 07:52 |
| gnux123 | yes | 07:52 |
| nags | infinity, 127.0.1.1 ? anyways let me try... | 07:52 |
| infinity | nags: If you just mean you want the system to have the correct hostname (ie: according to the kernel), that goes in /etc/hostname (but that's just the short host name, not the FQDN) | 07:53 |
| nags | infinity, okay | 07:53 |
| nags | infinity, even after setting the host name is not resolvable... | 07:53 |
| infinity | nags: If you mean you want domain resolution to work, but DHCP isn't sending you a useful domain name, try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to add sometihng like: append domain-name " 0c3.net"; | 07:54 |
| nags | infinity, let me try it now.. | 07:54 |
| infinity | (or: s/append/supersede/, if you don't want the domain name sent by your ISP to be used at all) | 07:54 |
| nags | infinity, okay | 07:56 |
| nags | infinity, I could see something like this #send host-name "andare.fugue.com"; | 07:56 |
| nags | infinity, shall I make it to my host name ? | 07:56 |
| infinity | That sends a hostname to the DHCP server, not the other way around. | 07:56 |
| infinity | Useful if you have a DHCP server that asiigns IPs based on hostname. | 07:57 |
| nags | infinity, ah ! okay | 07:57 |
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| nags | infinity, I get something like this '<null: Host name lookup failure' | 08:10 |
| nags | I get nags.blr.dell.com does not exist (Authoritative answer) | 08:11 |
| infinity | Err, using what? | 08:14 |
| infinity | Utilities like "host" or "nslookup" will be querying your DNS server. No amount of messing on your local machine will magically get a DNS record in your DNS server. | 08:15 |
| nags | infinity, host | 08:15 |
| infinity | Yeah, "host" does a DNS query. It's not a local resolver lookup. | 08:16 |
| nags | imbrandon, okay | 08:17 |
| infinity | And at this point, I think we've wandered so far into "off-topic support" that if you have further questions, you should probably take it to #ubuntu | 08:17 |
| nags | ah ! sorry tab filling | 08:17 |
| nags | infinity, :) | 08:17 |
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| nags | imbrandon, apologize, in tab filling I just typed i <tab> <enter> | 08:19 |
| imbrandon | heh np ;) | 08:19 |
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| imbrandon | moins infinity | 08:19 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:19 |
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| Keybuk | "Who maintains RPM?" ... LWN has become The Register! | 08:25 |
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| lifeless | Keybuk: pong | 08:26 |
| Keybuk | lifeless: I ping'd ? | 08:27 |
| lifeless | you wanted to arrange a time to chat | 08:27 |
| lifeless | now is good for me | 08:27 |
| Keybuk | can it wait until I've had more coffee | 08:27 |
| Keybuk | like, err, some | 08:27 |
| lifeless | sure. I've got about a 60minute window | 08:27 |
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| Keybuk | hopefully Mark won't pop in again and do his "guys, can you close your laptops" thing again | 08:28 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 08:29 |
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| Burgundavia | Keybuk: what did he want we he asked you to close your laptops? | 08:37 |
| lifeless | attention | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | lifeless: umm, isn't that what he pays over 100 people for? | 08:37 |
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| Keybuk | the udev rules file format changed again | 08:39 |
| lifeless | over 100 ? | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | lifeless: canonical + hbd + foundation | 08:40 |
| gnux123 | hbd? | 08:40 |
| lifeless | they are very different things | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | yes, but they are all extensions of Mark | 08:40 |
| lifeless | mmm, I'm not!. I'm an individual. | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | lifeless: not since you have been sucked into the Canonical mothership ;) | 08:42 |
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| StoneTable | hey Burgundavia | 08:47 |
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| jsgotangco | haha | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | StoneTable: greetings adam | 08:51 |
| StoneTable | Recovered from san fran? | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | mostly | 08:51 |
| StoneTable | The jet lag killed me | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | apparently I allowed myself to get video taped there | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | check the top of ubuntuvideo | 08:51 |
| StoneTable | hah, yeah | 08:51 |
| StoneTable | nice | 08:52 |
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| imbrandon | Burgundavia: heh yea i've eather gonna have to come to ubucon next year and/or "edumicate" you on kubuntu ;) | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | either* jez | 09:10 |
| Burgundavia | imbrandon: why is that? | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | just teasin you about the lack of kubuntu info when someone ask about adept ;) | 09:10 |
| Burgundavia | right | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | thats all , just rasin ya a bit ;) | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | that KDE guy was the worst | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | he grilled me later on KDE support | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | grilled Jane on it | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | he was very agressive about it. As if, if we answered wrong, he was going to be very annoyed | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | about what ? just support questions ? | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | how much does Ubuntu/Canonical support KDE | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | hahah yea i hate that | 09:11 |
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| Burgundavia | they he got poor Chris Kenyon, who has only used Linux for 3 months | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | heh yea i'm definately gonna have to come be the token kde guy next year ( since Riddell most likely wont make it to the US );) | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:12 |
| StoneTable | He stood up during whiprush's talk and started questioning the ltsp guys | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | damn thats rude | 09:13 |
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| StoneTable | They finally told him to shut up and sit down | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | i only watched the first 10 minutes or so, i'll catch the rest later | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | looks like it was a great talk over all though | 09:14 |
| imbrandon | other than obvious idiots ;) | 09:14 |
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| Burgundavia | it is too bad, because all he did was give KDE a bad name | 09:14 |
| imbrandon | very true | 09:14 |
| Burgundavia | right near the end is when we asks chris about KDE support | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | ;P chris == ? | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | i must not know him very well | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | is he the guy on the ubuntuos podcast >? | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | chris kenyon, don't know if he hangs out on irc. Canonicals marketing guy | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | great people, but zero Linux expereince | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | heh ;) | 09:16 |
| gnux123 | heh | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | and people make that mistake alot asking devs about marketing or marketing about tech stuff and expect a great answer | 09:17 |
| gnux123 | Then why did they hire Chris? | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | because you hire good people and then train them | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | Linux is a skill you can learn | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | being a good marketing person is not' | 09:18 |
| imbrandon | gnux123: you dont have to be an expert tech to be a good marketing guy , i doubt the windows marketing team can code c++ ( i'm sure there are exceptions but overall ) | 09:18 |
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| gnux123 | Thankz for the info | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | for instance, in my office of all sales and marketing, we have 1 linux guy (that would be me), 1 ex linux guy and 3 complete neophytes | 09:18 |
| imbrandon | Burgundavia: exactly there is a diffrence between a learned skill and a natual ability , marketing is more the natural thing moreso | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | natural* | 09:19 |
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| imbrandon | now dont get me wrong a natural can always "learn" his skill better but you know what i mean | 09:20 |
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| jdub | you guys are talking about "marketing" as if it's one thing, a single skill | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | looks like the world is wakin up, moins seb128 jdub dholbach mdz | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | jdub: true , it is MANY facets | 09:20 |
| mdz | wireless network has awakened | 09:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | Burgundavia: I disagree | 09:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | the ability to use a computer maybe | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | HrdwrBoB: we will have to disagree another time, because I am about to crash and the canonical people kind of need this channel to do minor things like develop Ubuntu | 09:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | yeah | 09:22 |
| seb128 | hi imbrandon jdub | 09:22 |
| jdub | hey seb128 | 09:22 |
| === jdub hugs seb128 | ||
| === seb128 hugs jdub | ||
| jdub | seb128: how's wiesbaden hackery? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | good | 09:23 |
| pitti | hey jdub | 09:23 |
| seb128 | dholbach forgot to put the alarm clock this morning | 09:23 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:23 |
| seb128 | but mdz phoned us, so that's alright ;) | 09:23 |
| pitti | surprising that you were only 9 minutes left | 09:23 |
| pitti | ah | 09:23 |
| jdub | lucky | 09:23 |
| jdub | that nine am smackdown sizzles ;) | 09:23 |
| seb128 | no need of a clock when you have mdz around apparently ;) | 09:24 |
| Keybuk | jdub: 11:30am sharp | 09:24 |
| mdz | when I call, you are already TOO LATE. | 09:24 |
| seb128 | jdub: out of that pretty good | 09:24 |
| seb128 | DOH | 09:24 |
| Keybuk | seb128: ah, that explains why your t-shirt is on back to front | 09:25 |
| dholbach | seb128: I *put* it, I just seem to have turned it off while sleeping again | 09:25 |
| Keybuk | ...what's funny is you checked | 09:25 |
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| dholbach | Keybuk: you have too much time... too much time to make fun of seb128 | 09:25 |
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| jdub | Keybuk: wiesbaden is 11:30am sharp?! things going soft now? | 09:26 |
| pitti | jdub: rather, brains going liquid | 09:26 |
| Keybuk | jdub: mdz was apparently losing confidence that he'd be up himself as the night got later | 09:26 |
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| Keybuk | ssh | 09:27 |
| Keybuk | he's here | 09:27 |
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| Keybuk | o/~ I'm going to kill Kay Sievers | 09:27 |
| seb128 | jdub: those german people have "schnaps" ... doesn't make easy to wake up before 9am | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | but did you have a transexual for mdz to sing with? | 09:28 |
| mvo | there is really good schnaps in germany, thats for sure! | 09:28 |
| StoneTable | I think mdz had the better voice, tho | 09:28 |
| pitti | jdub: seb needed to catch up from last conference's Schnaps deprivation | 09:28 |
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| imbrandon | ohh jdub OT i was gonna tell you i grabed your mugshot packages and updated it to the latest version and compiled debs for dapper/edgy if your interested | 09:31 |
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| jdub | imbrandon: cool | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | jdub: http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/edgy/extras/ s/edgy/dapper/g if you wanna grab it | 09:32 |
| jdub | imbrandon: mail me a deb-src line whenever you have the oppportunity | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | kk will do | 09:32 |
| imbrandon | jdub@ubuntu.com or ...... | 09:33 |
| jdub | jeff.waugh | 09:33 |
| jdub | maybe jdub works too | 09:34 |
| dholbach | imbrandon: upload to the archive! :) | 09:34 |
| jdub | i dunno | 09:34 |
| jdub | dholbach: it's kind of not useful in the archive | 09:34 |
| dholbach | jdub: aha? | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: you realy need an mugshot invite | 09:34 |
| imbrandon | to actualy use it | 09:34 |
| dholbach | hm | 09:34 |
| dholbach | I never uinderstood mugshot anyway | 09:34 |
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| dholbach | 'There are 137 direct members of the "Ubuntu BugSquad" team'! | 09:35 |
| dholbach | sfllaw: ^ | 09:35 |
| jdub | dholbach: the client is updated often enough that having an old version shipping in edgy would be kind of bong | 09:35 |
| imbrandon | jdub: sent, should arrive any min | 09:36 |
| jdub | thanks | 09:36 |
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| imbrandon | yea if they ever stableize it ( as in not change ever few weeks heh ) then it might be ok to upload ;) | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | dholbach: ^ | 09:38 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 09:38 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | amarok uped to archive Hobbsee | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yay :) | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | it even works now, too | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: have you requested backports, etc, for it yet? | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | it cant be backported just yet, becouse of libvisual and ummm one more lib | 09:40 |
| imbrandon | libtinepimp3 | 09:40 |
| imbrandon | tunepimp3* | 09:40 |
| imbrandon | but i'll check it out later today when riddell wakes and see if we can get all 3 backported since those are trivial libs only amarok uses | 09:41 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: tru ehtat. | 09:41 |
| Keybuk | sladen: | 09:41 |
| Keybuk | http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/gimliair.jpg | 09:41 |
| Keybuk | http://www.wadenelson.com/gimli.html | 09:42 |
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| Burgundavia | Keybuk: been there, lived there, really not much to see | 09:48 |
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| sivang | morning | 09:49 |
| Keybuk | Burgundavia: hmm? | 09:50 |
| pitti | hi sivang | 09:50 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: hmm? | 09:51 |
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| === sivang hugs pitti | ||
| === Hobbsee waves to sivang and pitti | ||
| Hobbsee | (and Riddell ) | 09:54 |
| pitti | hi Hobbsee | 09:54 |
| sivang | hey Hobbsee ! | 09:55 |
| sivang | and Riddell | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | heya Riddell | 09:55 |
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| Burgundavia | Keybuk: I have lived in Gimli and been to that airport. It is as truly desolate as it is made out to be | 10:01 |
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| Keybuk | Burgundavia: right, but that wasn't what the links were about | 10:04 |
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| sladen | Kamion: what were those success/failure rate for xorg...10.3 on the laptops here? | 11:28 |
| sladen | Burgundavia: ahhh, much like "Hahn". 30km through rolling countryside to the nearest railway station | 11:29 |
| Mithrandir | sladen: about 50/50 on the machines mdz_ tested, iirc. | 11:31 |
| sladen | Mithrandir: ta. Would be handy to say 6 passed, 7 failed if anyone remembers better | 11:32 |
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| Keybuk | so, err, where *does* the TERM variable come from? | 11:42 |
| Keybuk | I have a nasty feeling the only reason it happens to get set with sysvinit is that /bin/sh does it | 11:42 |
| Keybuk | and that /etc/init.d/rc is written in shell | 11:42 |
| Keybuk | actually, no, that wouldn't explain why it doesn't get set for upstart | 11:43 |
| Keybuk | maybe the kernel sets it | 11:43 |
| sladen | Keybuk: I thought you passed the terminal type to getty explictly | 11:44 |
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| Keybuk | need to reboot with init=/usr/bin/env and see what's in that | 11:44 |
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| sladen | Keybuk: eg. grep '^.*T.*vt100' /etc/inittab | 11:45 |
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| ivoks | Keybuk: :) | 11:46 |
| ivoks | Keybuk: that's my bug report | 11:46 |
| sladen | keybuk: [term] The value to be used for the TERM environment variable. This overrides whatever init(8) may have set, | 11:47 |
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| Kamion | sladen: 6/9 failures | 11:47 |
| Keybuk | sladen: those are just for serial lines | 11:47 |
| Keybuk | I suspect it just inherits the default variable from the kernel | 11:48 |
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| sladen | Keybuk: the serial lines probably have to overide whatever the compile default is | 11:51 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: apport doesn't seem to preserve command line arguments when respawning applications, is that right? | 12:32 |
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| sladen | tollef: you rock :) | 12:40 |
| Kamion | Gloubiboulga: could you seed xfce4-notes-plugin and xfce4-smartbookmarks-plugin somewhere? | 12:40 |
| Kamion | er smartbookmark | 12:40 |
| sladen | Kamion: 6 failure, 3 success | 12:40 |
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| Mithrandir | sladen: about the libx11 thingy or something else? | 12:42 |
| sladen | Mithrandir: yup, that (although you rock anyway, of course :) | 12:42 |
| Mithrandir | sladen: thanks. :-.) | 12:43 |
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| Guf0 | Hi, just a simple question: I have the live cds sent me by Canonical and I'd like to do a "server-install", do you think is it possible? I don't want use the live cd. | 12:51 |
| Kamion | Guf0: not really, sorry; the only way to do that would be to install the live CD and then remove everything desktopish | 12:54 |
| tseng | thanks for the hard work, whoever cleaned up NEW | 12:55 |
| Guf0 | Kamion, well, when I install ubuntu there is a line where is listened all the features to pass at the boot. Maybe there is something there. Later I'll test, because I haven't a cd to burn the real server-install iso :) | 12:55 |
| Kamion | tseng: no problem | 12:56 |
| Kamion | Guf0: take it from me, nothing on the live CD will give you a server install out of the box | 12:56 |
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| Guf0 | ok :) | 12:56 |
| Keybuk | oh, this is weird | 12:57 |
| dholbach | Kamion: thanks for genius in the archive! :) | 01:01 |
| Kamion | np | 01:02 |
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| jono | hey | 01:03 |
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| tseng | hi jono | 01:06 |
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| Keybuk | oh, wow, so this code is like, totally wrong | 01:57 |
| Kamion | ... dude | 01:57 |
| _ion | keybuk: What code? | 02:00 |
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| Keybuk | *thus* code | 02:00 |
| Keybuk | uh this | 02:00 |
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| robtaylor | strudel.harder.more.more.more | 02:02 |
| robtaylor | Keybuk: coming to camby this weekend? | 02:03 |
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| Keybuk | robtaylor: Tonio_ of course! | 02:07 |
| Keybuk | uh | 02:07 |
| Keybuk | s/Tonio_// | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 02:08 |
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| robtaylor | Keybuk: woo! | 02:16 |
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| slomo | when will the main freeze for knot2 start? | 02:20 |
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| Riddell | slomo: monday (I believe) | 02:47 |
| Riddell | slomo: why is libdbus-qt only 0.62? | 02:47 |
| slomo | Riddell: you mean 0.62.git.bla? because there wasn't a new release yet | 02:47 |
| Riddell | slomo: any idea why that is? surely they're all released by the same person? | 02:48 |
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| slomo | Riddell: nope, all parts have a different maintainer | 02:50 |
| slomo | i guess because they're either not ready yet or because they put all work in the qt4 bindings | 02:50 |
| slomo | sjoerd, do you have an idea why qt bindings have no release yet? | 02:50 |
| Riddell | I suspect there may not be a maintainer at all for qt3 bindings | 02:51 |
| slomo | then it's the same as for the c# bindings since ages :/ | 02:51 |
| Riddell | slomo: so I didn't realise that it was a new ABI and I was just testing against the old dbus libraries which were still installed | 02:51 |
| Riddell | now compiling stuff against dbus soname 3 | 02:52 |
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| slomo | thanks | 02:52 |
| sjoerd | slomo: because the qt3 stuff is totally unsupported :) | 02:52 |
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| slomo | sjoerd: nice ;) | 02:52 |
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| sjoerd | slomo: fedora/redhat put the apps that needed qt3 dbus stuff inside the app packages themselves, so they wouldn't need a new dbus-qt3 package ;( | 02:53 |
| pitti_ | hi sjoerd | 02:53 |
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| slomo | sjoerd: some c# packages are doing the same upstream now :/ ugly as hell... at least some people are now working on new better ones | 02:53 |
| sjoerd | yup | 02:54 |
| sjoerd | pitti: morning ;) | 02:54 |
| slomo | hi pitti :) | 02:54 |
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| pitti | sjoerd: it's already afternoon :) | 02:54 |
| === pitti hugs slomo | ||
| === slomo hugs pitti | ||
| mdke | jdub: around? | 03:00 |
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| sladen | mdz: and for mere mortals too? | 03:12 |
| mdz | http://www.kde-files.org/content/files/44218-linuxdistrotimeline-6.8.2.png | 03:15 |
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| Keybuk | o/~ The coffee man can | 03:40 |
| Keybuk | o/~ Because he puts it in a cup and makes the world taste good | 03:40 |
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| towolf | I found a problematic interaction between compiz and gucharmap (no char magnification popup window). Do I file the bug for the former, the latter, or upstream only? | 03:45 |
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| seb128 | iwj: any reason you changed the firefox user-agent string to be "Ubuntu-edgy" instead of "Ubuntu/edgy" (it used to be "Ubuntu/dapper")? epiphany upstream is asking | 03:48 |
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| iwj | seb128: No particular reason, no, but the rest of the user agent string changed lots (eg to make it have gecko in again). | 04:03 |
| iwj | Is it a problem ? | 04:03 |
| thom | iwj: rfc2068 (and the mozilla U-A spec) kinda suggests you should be using / to seperate product and version, but i can't see that it matters much | 04:07 |
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| seb128 | iwj: <chpe> don't think it's a problem, just an unexpected / unnecessary change :) | 04:10 |
| seb128 | iwj: apparently it's no problem, he was just wondering "why" | 04:10 |
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| bddebian | Morning folks | 04:19 |
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| iriya | Is there anyone? | 04:30 |
| pitti | iriya: no :) | 04:30 |
| iriya | Hi! | 04:30 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: ya know, instead of playing bug tennis you could just ask me | 04:31 |
| Keybuk | that's definitely not a udev bug | 04:31 |
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| fabbione | Keybuk: isn't udev that handles the transition to UUID with volemid pkg? | 04:31 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i am not sure yet and i won't for about 2 weeks (since i am going in holidays) what's at fault and why | 04:32 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i added a comment that it was probably a good idea to wait to transition raid | 04:32 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: and reassigned to udev | 04:32 |
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| iriya | Can I ask some questions? | 04:33 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: no | 04:34 |
| iriya | ok | 04:34 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: no what? | 04:34 |
| Keybuk | it's nothing to do with udev | 04:34 |
| Keybuk | mdstat fails | 04:34 |
| Keybuk | and you did not add a comment | 04:34 |
| Keybuk | you just played bug tennis | 04:35 |
| fabbione | i did add a comment... | 04:35 |
| fabbione | i am damn sure about it | 04:35 |
| fabbione | if mdstat fails, then you know more than i do to get it fixed. | 04:35 |
| fabbione | i don't have the setup here to test/fix | 04:35 |
| Keybuk | if mdstat fails, and our raid expert refuses to help, I'm going to suggest we unseed it | 04:35 |
| Keybuk | and move raid to unsupported | 04:35 |
| Keybuk | and universe | 04:35 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i didn' t refuse to help.. read above | 04:36 |
| fabbione | i am going in vacation for 2 weeks | 04:36 |
| jdub | mdke: around for a moment | 04:36 |
| fabbione | and i don't have the setup to test/fix it here | 04:36 |
| Keybuk | you could say tha ton the bug | 04:36 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i did write a mail about my vacation | 04:36 |
| fabbione | that i was trying to keep less public | 04:36 |
| fabbione | but since you take the argument here.. | 04:36 |
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| fabbione | Keybuk: but if you want to remove it from the seeds go ahead.. do whatever you think it's appropriate. | 04:37 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: at the same time please inform that we can't support server anylonger | 04:37 |
| Keybuk | if you think that consistently refusing to help with any bugs that you're our resident expert for is an "argument", sure, I moved it here | 04:37 |
| Keybuk | we're a distro *team* | 04:38 |
| fabbione | please paste here where i did refuse to help | 04:38 |
| fabbione | you keep trying to put in my mouth stuff that i did NOT say | 04:38 |
| fabbione | if you want to take the argument that we are a distro team | 04:38 |
| fabbione | sure.. then you can take care of a bug while i am on vacation for me | 04:38 |
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| Keybuk | I interpret the fact you've reassigned four bugs back to me whenever I've assigned themto you and asked for help as refusing to help | 04:39 |
| fabbione | 4? | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | yes | 04:39 |
| fabbione | showme this 4 | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | that's how many it's been so far | 04:39 |
| fabbione | idid reassing one today | 04:39 |
| fabbione | so far in 2 1/2 year? | 04:39 |
| fabbione | wow | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | 4 in 2 months! | 04:39 |
| Keybuk | on this one problem | 04:39 |
| fabbione | so you start something and not dealing to take all the consequences? | 04:40 |
| Keybuk | and I would be delighted to help this user, except that I know absolutely fucking nothing about RAID | 04:40 |
| Keybuk | you're our expert on that | 04:40 |
| fabbione | i would like to help him too | 04:40 |
| fabbione | but i don't have the equipment here | 04:40 |
| fabbione | and i will be away 2 weeks | 04:40 |
| fabbione | learning raid takes no more than one hour for a clever guy like you | 04:41 |
| fabbione | one hour including a coffee break | 04:41 |
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| Keybuk | enough to debug what's wrong? alot more than that | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | I shouldn't *need* to | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | I have more than enough bugs of my own | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | including those I happily accept from other people | 04:41 |
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| fabbione | dude if i die today, who will take care of that bug? | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | nobody | 04:41 |
| fabbione | cool | 04:42 |
| fabbione | than reassigning | 04:42 |
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| fabbione | nobody can/will take care of it for the next 2 weeks | 04:42 |
| Keybuk | I'm sure that's fine | 04:43 |
| Keybuk | just don't reassign them back without so much as a comment! | 04:43 |
| fabbione | i DID add a comment! | 04:43 |
| Keybuk | Malone disagrees with you | 04:43 |
| fabbione | Malone sucks | 04:43 |
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| fabbione | can you give me the bug number again? | 04:44 |
| Keybuk | #57607 | 04:44 |
| fabbione | screw malone | 04:44 |
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| fabbione | #57715 | 04:46 |
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| Keybuk | fabbione: if this bug is something you do, it could explain why I've had "reassign back without comment" things from you before | 04:47 |
| elmo | NOTICE: the Launchpad librarian is going down in 10 minutes time for an hour - soyuz will be shutdown for the period and it will affect other aspects of launchpad (e.g. bug report attachments, build logs, etc.) | 04:47 |
| Keybuk | in which case, I apologise for you shirking your responsibilities | 04:48 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i did reassign adding a comment | 04:48 |
| Keybuk | (implying that you are) | 04:48 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i have no reason to push stuff back without a reason. | 04:48 |
| fabbione | no need to apologies | 04:48 |
| Keybuk | "never blame on a fellow developer that which they can blame on Malone" | 04:48 |
| iwj | thom,seb128: I've made a note of it and I may even manage to change it back at some point. Thanks :-). | 04:48 |
| seb128 | iwj: thank you ;) | 04:49 |
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| mdke | jdub: just trying to get a response to that email about mailing lists. I've resent you a reminder | 04:52 |
| sbalneav | Keybuk: ping | 05:07 |
| Keybuk | sbalneav: hey | 05:07 |
| pitti | hi sbalneav | 05:07 |
| sbalneav | Hey, just wanted to say, I was working on getting what ogra needed for the session handling done, | 05:07 |
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| sbalneav | and I hadn't had a chance to do the fork/exec stuff for ltspfs done yet | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | but I'll get it done within the next 4 hours or so. | 05:08 |
| pitti | ogra already fixed ltspfs | 05:08 |
| pitti | Keybuk: ^ approved, btw | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | So don't demote it to universe quite yet :) | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | hey pitti | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | yeah, he's going to mail that bit to me, so I'll just finish up on ltspfsd | 05:09 |
| Keybuk | sbalneav: it was demoted to universe already | 05:09 |
| ogra | sbalneav, to late they already deoted them | 05:09 |
| Keybuk | it's Colin's archive day today | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | ogra: so does this mean the localdev stuff won't be in this knot? | 05:10 |
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| Kamion | happy to promote it back again | 05:13 |
| sbalneav | Kamion: If you could, it'd be great, because it would mean that edubuntu users could test localdev stuff this knot. | 05:14 |
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| sbalneav | Like I say, I can send a tarball within about 4 hours or so. | 05:14 |
| Kamion | we're looking at near the end of next week for the Knot release, not near the start | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | Ah, so time yet. | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | ok | 05:14 |
| Kamion | so if you guys get it fixed, I can promote ltspfsd on Monday and that will be time enough | 05:14 |
| Kamion | ltspfs promoted - thanks for your patience | 05:15 |
| sbalneav | Perfect. It'll be done today. Ogra needed the SERVER_LANGS and SERVER_SESSIONS handling, so I did that first so he could carry on with the ldm enhancements. | 05:15 |
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| imbrandon | hrm whom do i whine to about the planet.u.c ? | 05:21 |
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| Zdra | nvidia released driver 1.0-8774 with Xorg 7.1 support ! Does someone know when it will come into edgy ? | 05:38 |
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| Burgwork | Zdra, fairly soon, because we need it | 05:39 |
| Zdra | Burgwork: yes that's why I ask, because I need it :-) | 05:40 |
| Burgwork | Zdra, all I can say is that it will happen. The developers are busy, so please don't bug them | 05:41 |
| Zdra | yes, thanks :D | 05:41 |
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| elmo | librarian is back | 05:47 |
| elmo | and soyuz has been turned back on | 05:48 |
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| lloydinho | wooh! DistroSprint is now officially over! | 05:50 |
| zul | already? | 05:51 |
| Kamion | the archive's healthier now than it was; sync requests will be dealt with upon Scott's/my return hoome | 05:54 |
| Kamion | home | 05:54 |
| bddebian | w000t | 05:55 |
| Kamion | it's Scott's archive day on Tuesday, thankfully. :) | 05:55 |
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| Burgwork | Kamion, thanks for the schedule. Will make creating those Knot2/3 pages much easier | 05:57 |
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| ogra | sbalneav, looks like pitti got it fixed | 06:03 |
| sbalneav | Which, the ltspfsd? | 06:04 |
| ogra | yes | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | whoot | 06:04 |
| ogra | i had done some work already ... but it simply exploded | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | I was just hacking on it now, but this is goot doo. | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | arg | 06:04 |
| sbalneav | good too | 06:04 |
| ogra | the calming part is that even pitti needed quite some time to get it working :) | 06:05 |
| pitti | yeah, friday afternoon blindness, sorry | 06:05 |
| sbalneav | Man, from "fine, also" to "german dog droppings" in one letter transposition. | 06:05 |
| sbalneav | ogra, pitti, if you could email me the diffs, and I'll upstream it. | 06:06 |
| ogra | sbalneav, will do | 06:06 |
| sbalneav | that way you won't need to maintain a separate patch in the future. | 06:06 |
| sbalneav | ogra: did the infod stuff do what you want? | 06:06 |
| sbalneav | pitti: I owe you so many beers now, I'll just buy you a keg. :) | 06:08 |
| pitti | sbalneav: nevermind, this one was due to my paranoia | 06:08 |
| pitti | sorry for the trouble | 06:08 |
| pitti | but at least we can forget about it now | 06:08 |
| ogra | uploaded !!! | 06:08 |
| pitti | \o/ | 06:09 |
| ogra | pitti, you didnt cause the trouble | 06:09 |
| sbalneav | :D/-< | 06:09 |
| sbalneav | :D|-< | 06:09 |
| sbalneav | :D\-< | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: nifty ;-) | 06:09 |
| ogra | i still dont understand why my word cant count for a missing fix and the packages *had* to be demoted ... even though it was clear the fix would come immediately | 06:10 |
| Keybuk | o|_|/ | 06:10 |
| sbalneav | meh, no worries. Rules is rules, we live within them. | 06:10 |
| ogra | well, it should be possible to make exceptions from rules based on trust ... | 06:11 |
| sbalneav | I was busy at work for the last few days, and I wanted to make sure you got the infod stuff so you could hack on LDM, I was going to patch up *fs on the weekend, wasn't aware we were so close to a knot dealine. | 06:11 |
| ogra | well, i didnt expect that it would be reverted ... | 06:12 |
| ogra | else i had told you that its urgent | 06:12 |
| sbalneav | Alls well that ends well. :) | 06:12 |
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| Robot101 | iwj, Kamion: any plans to come to the debian UK bbq this weekend? | 06:30 |
| Robot101 | collabora are sponsoring to the tune of a firkin of Milton Pegasus, if that helps :) | 06:30 |
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| AnAnt | I have a problem packaging a library (fsplib), it installs in debian/tmp/usr/{lib,include}. So I made fsplib0.install file which contains: usr/lib/* , and fsplib-dev.install file which contains: usr/include/* | 07:35 |
| AnAnt | yet, the resulting packages don't have anything in the lib & include dirs ! anyone knows what may cause that ? | 07:36 |
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| tuxi | hi | 08:27 |
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| _ion | Argh. | 08:33 |
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| pygi | I would need cdrecord expert, anyone ? :) | 09:03 |
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| jdong | how is the dapper commercial repo handled through launchpad? | 09:37 |
| jdong | I got a user here requesting a newer version of opera via backports | 09:37 |
| jdong | and obviously I can't do that :) | 09:37 |
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| pygi | jdong, no, you can't :P | 09:49 |
| jdong | I'd like to forward the request to the right person | 09:50 |
| jdong | because I'd like to see opera 9.01 in dapper-commercial too :) | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | jdong: you might ask mvo | 09:54 |
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| fluxbuntu | hey everyone i have a question | 10:20 |
| fluxbuntu | there is a potential security threat in Ubuntu | 10:20 |
| fluxbuntu | when you go to create a user in Ubuntu | 10:20 |
| fluxbuntu | all fo the roles are checked | 10:20 |
| fluxbuntu | which means by default a newly created users has root access | 10:21 |
| fluxbuntu | of* | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | fluxbuntu: you can file a bug at http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | fluxbuntu: this must be in edgy? | 10:21 |
| fluxbuntu | LAserJock DApper | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm, it wasn't that way for me, and it isn't presently in edgy for me either | 10:21 |
| fluxbuntu | unless you all changed it in the latest update | 10:22 |
| pradeep_ | fluxbuntu, System - Administration -> Users and Groups? | 10:22 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ yes | 10:22 |
| fluxbuntu | you should have to enable roles | 10:22 |
| fluxbuntu | not deselect them | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | it looks ok to me | 10:23 |
| fluxbuntu | if someone just started using linux and created users all of them whould have root access or access to sudo | 10:23 |
| fluxbuntu | ahh | 10:24 |
| fluxbuntu | it has been fix | 10:24 |
| fluxbuntu | :) | 10:24 |
| fluxbuntu | before i did a fresh install of dapper | 10:24 |
| fluxbuntu | and all the roles were checked when i went to create a new user | 10:24 |
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| fluxbuntu | i just updated | 10:24 |
| fluxbuntu | LaserJock pradeep_ nevermind | 10:25 |
| fluxbuntu | i guess that is why 6.0.6.1 was issued | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | heh, np | 10:25 |
| pygi | botox ^_^ | 10:25 |
| pygi | When we'll get botox?:) | 10:25 |
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| LaserJock | I think it must have been done before then though | 10:25 |
| fluxbuntu | laaserjock i went to create user accounts for my sisters on my ubuntu laptop | 10:26 |
| fluxbuntu | and had to deselect it otherwise they could do damage | 10:26 |
| pradeep_ | i just checked and the new user doesn't have "System Administration Privileges" enabled by default | 10:26 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ have you updated? | 10:26 |
| fluxbuntu | or is it a clean install? | 10:27 |
| pradeep_ | updated... | 10:27 |
| pradeep_ | it' | 10:27 |
| pradeep_ | you're saying the clean has it? | 10:27 |
| robertj | why did debian & ubuntu stop including webmin? Was it just because it never worked quite right? | 10:28 |
| fluxbuntu | i had to deselect it on my clean install | 10:28 |
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| fluxbuntu | predeep_ otherwise my sisters whould have been able to use sudo | 10:29 |
| robertj | is there some other policy reason it got bumped? | 10:29 |
| fluxbuntu | has anyone else had or reported this? | 10:29 |
| pradeep_ | fluxbuntu, this would have been filed as a part of release notes for 6.06.1 if it had been there | 10:30 |
| Burgwork | robertj, webmin is not installed by default | 10:30 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ hmm that is strange | 10:30 |
| robertj | Burgwork: it's totally removed from the repo isn't it? | 10:31 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ an isolated case? that is weird and it does not make since | 10:31 |
| Burgwork | robertj, webmin is ood and i think upstream is deaad | 10:31 |
| robertj | Burgwork: is their a recommended replacement? | 10:31 |
| pradeep_ | fluxbuntu, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233444 FYI | 10:31 |
| Burgwork | fluxbuntu, pradeep_ by deafult, only the first user should have sudo rights. No other created users should have it, unless added to the admin gruop | 10:31 |
| pradeep_ | yep | 10:32 |
| pradeep_ | and that's the way it is | 10:32 |
| fluxbuntu | burgwork that is why i am saying this must be an isolated case | 10:32 |
| fluxbuntu | but that makes no sense if they are all the same iso | 10:32 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ are you busy? | 10:33 |
| pradeep_ | well sleepy | 10:34 |
| fluxbuntu | oh ok | 10:34 |
| pradeep_ | fluxbuntu, are you using fluxbuntu by any chance? Maybe THAT has this defect :P | 10:37 |
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| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ no | 11:15 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ i have not released fluxbuntu yet | 11:15 |
| fluxbuntu | pradeep_ there are not any defects with my operating system | 11:16 |
| fluxbuntu | LaserJock are you busy? | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | umm, sorta kinda, depends on what you want ;-) | 11:22 |
| fluxbuntu | oh ok nevermind then | 11:22 |
| fluxbuntu | are there any devs who are not busy? | 11:22 |
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| pygi | fluxbuntu, what you broke? :) | 11:23 |
| fluxbuntu | pugi i did not break anything | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | fluxbuntu: it's better to just say it | 11:24 |
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| fluxbuntu | LaserJock no i do not think so i do not want to bother anyone if they are busy | 11:25 |
| pygi | fluxbuntu, ok, what's the problem then? :) | 11:25 |
| exobuzz | what's the status of fonts with edgy? They now look more blurred, and bold fonts look too bold, and not well defined (using bitstream family). | 11:26 |
| exobuzz | i much prefered how they look in dapper. | 11:26 |
| fluxbuntu | i need a wiki or documentation or an outline if none exist on how to compile meta packages correctly | 11:26 |
| fluxbuntu | debian repository maintainer's docs do not help | 11:27 |
| fluxbuntu | since meta packages are different from regular ones as they draw from other packages | 11:27 |
| fluxbuntu | "compile" == build | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | fluxbuntu: check out the Ubuntu Packaging Guide on help.ubuntu.com | 11:29 |
| fluxbuntu | LaserJock it points to the debian guide | 11:29 |
| LaserJock | umm, but it isn't the same thing | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | also look at the source packages for existing meta packages | 11:30 |
| fluxbuntu | laserjock i have | 11:31 |
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| fluxbuntu | the problem is with me is i need some sort of instructions to follow, just like with customizing a livecd | 11:31 |
| fluxbuntu | skip something and it is not going to work | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | well, we really can't provide that kind of thing easily | 11:32 |
| fluxbuntu | LaserJock | 11:32 |
| fluxbuntu | ok that is all i needed to know | 11:32 |
| fluxbuntu | thanks anyway | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | packaging isn't like cooking | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | in the sense of having a defined recipe to go by | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | we can teach you stuff though and if you read through the Packaging Guide you should have enough to make a meta package | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | also take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics | 11:34 |
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