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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:03 |
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| bddebian | What's the proper procedure to request a dapper-update or security, etc? | 03:10 |
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| lfittl | gn8 everybody | 03:21 |
| crimsun | bddebian: that's two different questions. Which are you asking? | 03:23 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 03:28 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 03:29 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I'm not sure. The typo3 upload fixes a security bug (hopefully) but is also a newer version. | 03:29 |
| azeem | could you backport the fix? | 03:30 |
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| bddebian | azeem: Yes since it's mostly a source package that just lays a directory structure | 03:31 |
| bddebian | Or do you mean to the current version? | 03:31 |
| azeem | to the current version | 03:31 |
| crimsun | if you want it in dapper-security, generate a debdiff against the current dapper package, then upload it to security-review | 03:31 |
| LaserJock | anybody know a good way to compare the "last modified" time on 2 files ? | 03:31 |
| LaserJock | in a shell script | 03:32 |
| crimsun | bddebian: in debian/changelog, you need to include brief descriptions of the security issue(s) and the fix(es) (reference the affected functions in said files), and point to the CVE # and Debian BTS report if available | 03:33 |
| bddebian | Ugh | 03:33 |
| crimsun | it's not difficult, just takes some effort. | 03:34 |
| bddebian | I personally think it's a waste of time for this package but I'm not sure what I "should" do | 03:34 |
| crimsun | a few of us have been doing it since hoary | 03:34 |
| crimsun | it's up to you. universe is best-effort. | 03:34 |
| crimsun | from a distro perspective, we certainly need increased security coverage | 03:36 |
| crimsun | from a pragmatic perspective for us [volunteers] , you need to decide whether it's worth the opportunity cost | 03:36 |
| bddebian | opportunity cost.. Hah. I don't even know if anything I do is "worthwhile" :-) | 03:37 |
| crimsun | ok mister top-ten ubuntu contributor. | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | heh | 03:37 |
| bddebian | Gotta always throw something in my face dontcha :) | 03:37 |
| azeem | bddebian: depends on whether you evaluate this from your own or from our user's POV :) | 03:37 |
| bddebian | azeem: What do you mean by "this"? | 03:38 |
| crimsun | this issue that you raise | 03:38 |
| azeem | 'I don't even know if anything I do is "worthwhile"' | 03:38 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: where's the top-ten list? | 03:38 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Well I'm certainly not unwilling to do it but I would probably need help/guidance | 03:39 |
| bddebian | azeem: The users wouldn't even have a clue who I am :-) | 03:39 |
| azeem | bddebian: they would still appreciate it | 03:39 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: don't remember, sorry. bddebian pointed it to me last week. | 03:39 |
| azeem | giggle | 03:39 |
| bddebian | I did not | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Grr | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | I see a top-5 | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | which is pretty predictable | 03:40 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+topcontributors | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Oh, hehe | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | wow #6 | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | holly cow | 03:41 |
| crimsun | now you have proof. Anytime the deity says something about not being able to do something, just fling that back in his face. :D | 03:41 |
| azeem | bddebian: whoa, you've almost crossed the 1M karma line! | 03:41 |
| Fujitsu | Yep, it's a nice page... | 03:41 |
| Lathiat | haha | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: you're #14 on bugs | 03:42 |
| bddebian | azeem: Aye, scary huh :-) | 03:43 |
| LaserJock | haha, rodarvus is on the bug list, poor guy | 03:43 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Were you at the meeting when I tried for core-dev? Even they said that all my changes are small, etc, etc | 03:43 |
| crimsun | bddebian: I think actually you said that. | 03:44 |
| LaserJock | I think that was about main though | 03:44 |
| LaserJock | nobody doubts your contribution to Universe | 03:44 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Actually no, I didn't. And while I don't disagree that I have done little for main and may not have deserved core-dev, not one person piped up in my "defense" | 03:45 |
| crimsun | bddebian: there was nothing to defend, nor is there anything "deserved". That's the wrong way to look at core-dev. | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Maybe defense was a poor choice of words and I didn't say I deserved anything | 03:47 |
| Fujitsu | So, the distribution-related karma only counts from 2006/08/01, doesn't it? | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: No clue, sorry | 03:48 |
| Fujitsu | I'm pretty sure that's what it said... | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | obviously that's why I'm not in the top 5 | 03:49 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: ? | 03:49 |
| LaserJock | haha, sometimes I make myself laugh ;-) | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Oh, hehe :) | 03:49 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: You are off the chart.. :-) | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | ohhh, here is the other top ubuntu contributor | 03:50 |
| crimsun | now our venerable Hobbsee is in not one but BOTH charts | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Both? | 03:50 |
| crimsun | both distro and bugs | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Oh | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | it's Miss #8 herself ;-) | 03:50 |
| crimsun | (not including translations right this moment, not to dismiss their importance) | 03:50 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 03:51 |
| === ajmitch isn't anywhere in sight | ||
| crimsun | yes you are in bugs | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | miss #8? | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: which charts were these? | 03:51 |
| Fujitsu | I'm nowhere yet, no surprise :P | 03:51 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | ohh...in overall and bugs | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: that doesn't count | 03:51 |
| crimsun | bahaha | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: you are on the bug list | 03:51 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Why not? | 03:51 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+topcontributors | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | I'll be off that list soon enough | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yep, i eventually realised | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | yeah whatever | 03:51 |
| === Hobbsee wants to know what the rewards are for being on that list | ||
| === ajmitch gets back to work | ||
| Hobbsee | apart from bragging rights, of course :P | 03:52 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: you don't need to be on either; you're already mister celebrity/raging ubuntu-aholic motu | 03:52 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:52 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Yeah, I'm on it all all I get is shit.. ;-P | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | haha | 03:53 |
| crimsun | that's all we get from our users ;) | 03:53 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, probably true. | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | nah | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | sometimes you get a appreciative person | 03:54 |
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| LaserJock | it's cool | 03:54 |
| ajmitch | maybe you do.. | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee_ | argh, waht'd i miss? | 03:55 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee_*, you really seem to have been having connection issues lately... | 03:55 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 03:55 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee{_*}, probably... | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | hmm, apparently I haven't been doing much lately | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yeah, rather. | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: the uni connection is a bit odd | 03:56 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know why this just dropped though | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | darn, I need to look through teams to join too | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | when did universe-sponsors come about? | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: when i went for -core | 03:57 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock, a couple of weeks back. | 03:57 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Yeah, gosh knows motu-science doesn't have enough to do ;-) | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I missed that | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | heh, have you seen the list lately? | 03:57 |
| bddebian | I asked to join the games team and didn't even get accepted there.. :'-( | 03:57 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: No, is it up again? | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | gimme a sec and I'll have a fresh one for you | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | I need to go through bugs | 03:58 |
| bddebian | For me? That's azeem's job now.. ;-P | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | I haven't uploaded anything for a while | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | I'm hardly even a MOTU these days :( | 03:59 |
| bddebian | yeah, celebrity has that affect ;-P | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | I guess :/ | 03:59 |
| welshbyte | man that build is still chugging along | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | yay. i can get kopete backported | 04:00 |
| welshbyte | i feel like a gentoo user | 04:00 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Still openvrml? | 04:00 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: yup | 04:00 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Brutal isn't it | 04:00 |
| welshbyte | same file has been compiling for 7 hours | 04:00 |
| bddebian | Egads | 04:00 |
| bddebian | That's worse than glibc on GNU/Hurd :-) | 04:00 |
| Fujitsu | Yep, openvrml is large. | 04:01 |
| === LaserJock puts openvrml on his list of packages not to touch ;-) | ||
| welshbyte | it might be faster if i had more memory but it's chewing up my big swap partition | 04:01 |
| welshbyte | my poor hard drive :( | 04:02 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: It killed my laptop, hence why I ask you to take a look :-) | 04:02 |
| === Fujitsu hugs welshbyte's HDD. | ||
| bddebian | hehe | 04:02 |
| welshbyte | heh | 04:02 |
| welshbyte | it had better not fail after all this time ;) | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | woot, up to 87 outdated packages in Edgy :-) | 04:02 |
| Fujitsu | That'd be great... | 04:03 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Just for science? | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | yep | 04:03 |
| welshbyte | what counts as outdated? | 04:03 |
| === Fujitsu wonders why 3 of his merges subscribed to ubuntu-universe-sponsors got uploaded by different people 2 days ago, while the other 3 haven't been touched. | ||
| LaserJock | welshbyte: Debian unstable has a newer version | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i havent looked | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | hmm, and it looks like there might be a few NEW packages from Debian to pick up | 04:04 |
| === Hobbsee has some merges to look at here too. | ||
| Fujitsu | New ones? Fun. | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 04:05 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: What packages? | 04:05 |
| === bddebian just did 1 merge and 1 sync | ||
| LaserJock | there are 27 science apps in Debian that Edgy doesn't have, most of them are non-free but I see a few dfsg ones came up | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | Lessee... lcd4linux (bug #57068), drivel (bug #57073), and xchm (bug #57082). | 04:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57068 in lcd4linux "Please review merge of lcd4linux" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57068 | 04:06 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57073 in drivel "Please review merge of drivel" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57073 | 04:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57082 in xchm "Please review merge of xchm" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57082 | 04:07 |
| Fujitsu | Acked sync requests should be approved, shouldn't they? | 04:07 |
| gnomefreak | btw just to inform everyone nvidia released the new drivers ;) they are kind of iffy (i have to work on htem tomorrow on edgy) | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yes | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: acking == approving | 04:08 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Oh, I thought you meant on REVU | 04:08 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, one of mine was acked without being changed to Confirmed. | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ahh. did they subscribe the archive anyway? | 04:09 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, yes. | 04:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | gnomefreak, yay | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Don't subscribe ubuntu-archive for merges | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: then it doesnt really matter. | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: I'm looking at lcd4linux right now | 04:10 |
| Fujitsu | And I /do/ have a package on REVU, but I've not dealt with it lately. | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: as long as keybuk sees the MOTU approving it, then he'll do the sync. | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:10 |
| === Hobbsee has quite a few | ||
| Fujitsu | OK, thanks Hobbsee. | 04:10 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't actually asked anybody to review it yet :P | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:10 |
| === bddebian now KNOWS that no one listens to him | ||
| Fujitsu | bddebian, looking at my sync? | 04:10 |
| gnomefreak | Kamping_Kaiser: something is really wrong with them so once i figure out what is needed i will let whomever is working on them know | 04:11 |
| Fujitsu | *merge | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: we are listening to you :P | 04:11 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, I don't listen to you, as you'd sound pretty quiet from all the way over here :P | 04:11 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: If it still requires Ubuntu changes, it is a merge NOT a sync and ubuntu-archive admins do not to merges | 04:11 |
| gnomefreak | right now the drivers are building thier own modules for X since they dont like ubuntu's modules i guess | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | gnomefreak, :/ fix a bug, but cant use the fix, wonderfull | 04:11 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, I corrected myself. | 04:11 |
| gnomefreak | well if i get them working im hoping they fix the bug i reported today on nvidia | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: sensible, really. neither does the ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | (having my fonts will be awsome, i'm a month beyhind on debian-devel) | 04:12 |
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| bddebian | Fujitsu: You debdiff'd the current Ubuntu version against your changes? | 04:15 |
| Fujitsu | I debdiffed my changes against the current Ubuntu one, yes. | 04:15 |
| bddebian | Ok | 04:15 |
| bddebian | Hmm, looks odd | 04:18 |
| Fujitsu | ? | 04:18 |
| Fujitsu | Which, lcd4linux? | 04:18 |
| bddebian | The only things that changed are the changelog and control? | 04:18 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 04:19 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 04:19 |
| bddebian | OK | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: i found i had trouble building that one, actually | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | a while ago | 04:21 |
| LaserJock | darn it, it never ceases to amaze me how frustrating a terminal can be | 04:24 |
| Fujitsu | :O | 04:24 |
| Fujitsu | How, LaserJock? | 04:24 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Hmm, worked for me :) | 04:24 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I just checked, and it builds fine. | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 04:24 |
| Fujitsu | Good, bddebian :) | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | this was a while ago | 04:24 |
| LaserJock | well, I usually run a dark background, so the default blue color for directories is hard to read | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | like, a few weeks, i think | 04:25 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, yeah... | 04:25 |
| jabra | hey guys | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | so I set up a dircolors thing | 04:25 |
| LaserJock | but for the life of me I can't get my one box to take it | 04:25 |
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| jabra | perl questions. how can I used man1pods with a Makefile.PL but still properly make a manpage.1 | 04:26 |
| jabra | it can be created but the .TH says .1p | 04:26 |
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| jabra | wondering if I can pass like a -s 1 options like pod2man | 04:27 |
| jabra | which would fix this | 04:27 |
| Quinn_Storm | hey guys, I know this might not be the best place to ask (but I have seen some of the other questions fly by), so anyhow...I'm adding an icon to cgwd-themer for its x-mimetype (application-x-cgwdtheme), and I wanted to know the proper ubuntu/debianized way of doing this | 04:27 |
| TheMuso | Yey. The xawtv build problem to do with asm/page.h is now fixed in Debian. | 04:29 |
| === TheMuso merges. | ||
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: yay! | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: indeed | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | I didn't want to do it again till I saw there was some evidence of the problem having been fixed somehow. | 04:29 |
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| TheMuso | As it is nice to have a package build ok on all arches. | 04:30 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks, bddebian :) | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: I can't get the drivel diff to apply | 04:35 |
| Fujitsu | I'll check that out... | 04:35 |
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| LaserJock | ok, I got the computer to display the colors right, but now when I log in from a different machine it doesn't work :/ | 04:38 |
| Fujitsu | What fails, bddebian? | 04:38 |
| === imbrandon pokes LaserJock and bddebian in the ribs with two fingers and runs to hide behind a c++ compiler | ||
| LaserJock | grrrr | 04:41 |
| === imbrandon hides better | ||
| LaserJock | it'll take more than a C++ compiler | 04:41 |
| Quinn_Storm | I dunno, those are some hairy beasts, lots of room to hide | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | maybe a Java VM | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | heh , whats up with your colors ? /me got in late on the convo | 04:41 |
| imbrandon | heya Quinn | 04:41 |
| Quinn_Storm | hi | 04:42 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Now that I think about it, is this even valid? You are losing the orig.tar.gz by doing it this way? | 04:42 |
| Quinn_Storm | I'm trying to figure out...what's the "proper" way to package an icon for a custom mime-type with a program? | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: bah, well I usually change the terminal colors (like blue for directories) because I use a black background | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: but for some reason my box wasn't taking the usual settings | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | Quinn_Storm: your work gettign the xgl stuff into ubuntu with ajmitch got the attn of sabdfl yesterday ;) | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: now I got it fixed on the box, but when I login remotely it doesn't work | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Quinn_Storm: What does an icon have to do with mime-types? | 04:43 |
| Quinn_Storm | imbrandon: cool | 04:43 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, this is the way non-MOTUs are meant to do it. | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: ahh | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Says who? | 04:43 |
| Quinn_Storm | bddebian: its an icon for a mime-type, like a default icon so it doesn't show up as "unknown type" since it is known & handled | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Quinn_Storm: Ooohh, sorry, I mis-understood you | 04:43 |
| Quinn_Storm | 'sok | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Quinn_Storm: Sorry, don't know that one | 04:43 |
| Quinn_Storm | I don't want to just blindly dump it into /usr/share/icons/default or whatever, because that just seems bad practice, I'm sure there's a real way | 04:44 |
| gnux123 | How can I know that my packages are already uploaded in REVU? | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: You should probably be doing your debdiff against the latest Debian version | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock: the remote login is handeled diff in the .bashrc/profile | 04:44 |
| bddebian | gnux123: Check LaunchPad? | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | gnux123: packages.ubuntu.com ;) | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: yeah, I just can't figure it out :-) | 04:44 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, I thought that, but I was told on more than one occasion by more than one person that it should be between the Ubuntu versions. | 04:45 |
| imbrandon | hehe one sec i'll look, i think mine has diff setup for remote maybe i can give you an example | 04:45 |
| welshbyte | Quinn_Storm: a bit of googling tells me that debian follows http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html | 04:45 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: If the versions are the same I would agree, but going from 1.8 to 1.9, I would disagree with whoever said that | 04:45 |
| bddebian | Of course, I am wrong often :-) | 04:45 |
| Quinn_Storm | welshbyte: ok, I'll look into it ^-^ | 04:45 |
| welshbyte | Quinn_Storm: i hope it's helpful ;) | 04:46 |
| Quinn_Storm | yeah, though the spec is kinda weird...it kinda relies on apps to make sure they don't conflict in the namespace | 04:46 |
| Quinn_Storm | which...IMO...is kinda dumb | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | yeah, never rely on upstream ;-) | 04:47 |
| Fujitsu | OK, I shall produce a diff between latest Debian and my new one. Wait a sec. | 04:47 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: NP, thanks | 04:47 |
| welshbyte | dh_installicons would be tasty | 04:48 |
| welshbyte | if it existed | 04:48 |
| Quinn_Storm | yeah..maybe there's something with the mime helpers that's already there...I mean the package already registers a mime-type | 04:48 |
| Fujitsu | Attached to the bug, bddebian. | 04:49 |
| gnux123 | bddebian: is not yet there? | 04:49 |
| bddebian | gnux123: What's the package? | 04:49 |
| gnux123 | asterisk_1.2.10.dfsg-3ubuntu2 | 04:51 |
| gnux123 | I use dput to upload it on revu. | 04:51 |
| === imbrandon mumbles about flying toasters as he heads for more mt dew | ||
| bddebian | gah, someone just sent me an asterisk diff today.. Hmm | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: yeah, mt dew fill fix anything | 04:53 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, a friend named his laptop flying-toaster, after that screensaver. | 04:54 |
| gnux123 | Yah, I upload it yesterday? | 04:54 |
| imbrandon | hahah yea LaserJock | 04:56 |
| === imbrandon 's laptop is named intrepid | ||
| LaserJock | mine is electron, go figure | 04:57 |
| imbrandon | and a build machine called voyager and enterprise fileserver and challenger and birdofprey and hmmm a few others | 04:57 |
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| LaserJock | ohhh noooo | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | a Trekie | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 04:57 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:57 |
| imbrandon | couldent rember enough sg1 planets , plus pxj-449 is kinda hard to rember | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:58 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 04:58 |
| === Quinn_Storm was real creative....'athlon' | ||
| LaserJock | haha | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | heh sounds like hobbsee with "sarah" ;) i've been buggin her months to change it ;) | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | electron, thats kinda cool though | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | wifes called proton LaserJock ? | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:59 |
| === Quinn_Storm should name her new box atlantis, and call this one something boring...when she ifnally gets her new box | ||
| LaserJock | one of the theoretical groups in the dept. used, luck chance fate chaos ,etc. | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | hahah sweet | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Which package? xchm? | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: no, my wife's laptop (yeah right) is electron. My desktop is proton | 05:00 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | I also have a photon and lambda at work | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Oh, drivel | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | with all the lasers and all | 05:00 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:01 |
| imbrandon | nice | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | and we have a HP printer named motor as we are doing nanoscale motor research | 05:01 |
| imbrandon | hahahah cool , good your group atleaste has a nerd sense of humor ;) | 05:01 |
| LaserJock | my boss uses mountain names in the area though for his computers | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | lol i did that when i was in reno | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | mt names that is | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | well, one I really like is an organic chemistry lab that uses old west cowboys | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | i was going to do casino names but never got arround to it | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | earp, cody, annie, etc. | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:03 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: OK, close but the changelog isn't applying :-) | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | somehow I just can't imaging hilton peppermill atlantis nugget harahs | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | my old job in nashville the it group named them all star wars planets like kashyyyk , tatooine , coruscant , etc | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | it was kinda cool | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | and what got me started on cool/funny names instead of generic ones was, my first ISP named the dsn servers instead of ns1.domain.com ns2.domain.com it was itchy.domain.com and scratchy.domain.com ;) | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | i'll never forget that even though i forgot the isp LOL | 05:05 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, that's really odd... | 05:05 |
| Fujitsu | I think we must be going from a different Debian version... | 05:06 |
| === Fujitsu checks. | ||
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 05:06 |
| Fujitsu | Indeed, 2.0.3-2 has been released since I produced this. | 05:06 |
| Fujitsu | I'll redo it, wait a sec. | 05:06 |
| === welshbyte named his laptop plato | ||
| bddebian | Fujitsu: OK, sorry man | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | welshbyte: got an aristotle? | 05:08 |
| Fujitsu | No, my problem. I should have checked that :) | 05:08 |
| welshbyte | LaserJock: yup, it's in my parents' house :) | 05:09 |
| === bddebian renamed his laptop to hdisbeggingformercy | ||
| imbrandon | heh | 05:09 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:09 |
| Quinn_Storm | too many pbuilders? | 05:09 |
| bddebian | Yep :-) | 05:09 |
| === imbrandon uses 4 pbuilders and 2 chroots | ||
| LaserJock | if I had 3 I'd go, good bad ugly ;-) | 05:10 |
| === Quinn_Storm cheats and when she doesn't need to verify deps, runs an "open" pbuilder (doesn't bother to clean or targz itself back up after) | ||
| imbrandon | Quinn_Storm: thats basicly a chroot | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 05:10 |
| Quinn_Storm | yep, but pbuilder does the boring work for me | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:11 |
| gnux123 | Yeah | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | I need to figure out how to use pbuilder more that way | 05:11 |
| === Quinn_Storm looks up her script and pastebins it | ||
| === Quinn_Storm glares at gedit and edgy's gtk in general, if you try to use a file widget that is currently set to an invalid dir, an app crashes | ||
| === welshbyte strokes vim lovingly | ||
| Quinn_Storm | http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/148400 - my often-used 'release' script | 05:15 |
| === Quinn_Storm loves vim too, just can't use it easily to get copy+paste of more than one screen for pastebin | ||
| === Quinn_Storm does all her dev in vim | ||
| === bddebian slides nano under welshbyte's vim | ||
| === Quinn_Storm shudders at nano...though she did first learn pico over ten years ago... | ||
| welshbyte | bddebian: ...wrong.... just... wrong. | 05:16 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:16 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Well at least you said vim and not Emacs so I won't beat you too badly ;-P | 05:17 |
| welshbyte | hehe | 05:17 |
| Quinn_Storm | so yeah, that is my bastard of a release script, it's very nice because all my cvs modules that I release as packages are easy to deal with | 05:17 |
| === LaserJock hides his Emacs window real quick | ||
| welshbyte | emacs is a nice operating system but it lacks a decent text editor | 05:18 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | who uses it as a text editor? ;-) | 05:18 |
| welshbyte | can't remember who said that | 05:18 |
| === Quinn_Storm learned vim first....that's about all there is to it | ||
| LaserJock | it's my PIM app | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 05:18 |
| welshbyte | Quinn_Storm: me too :) | 05:18 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol, my cell phone does that (pim) | 05:19 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, I've redone it all. | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | I learned emacs a bit first, then learned vim (which I really like) and am back using emacs mostly | 05:19 |
| Quinn_Storm | also I have a script, 'dchi', that increments the source version and resets the extra version string to -0ubuntu1 | 05:19 |
| Quinn_Storm | the strange things you need when you are both cvs maintainer and packager... | 05:20 |
| welshbyte | Quinn_Storm: btw do you use vim7? it has a command to copy hilighted (with visual mode) text to the X clipboard | 05:20 |
| Quinn_Storm | ok cool, yeah, never learned of that command yet | 05:21 |
| === Quinn_Storm uses edgy, so...whatever edgy has | ||
| welshbyte | it's "*y and you can paste from the clipboard with "*p | 05:21 |
| gnux123 | welshbyte: can I actually copy that to x clipboard? | 05:22 |
| welshbyte | oops, no that wasn't the command, sorry... those were commands to copy between vims | 05:22 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:23 |
| Quinn_Storm | though I should remember those too | 05:23 |
| Quinn_Storm | I often tabbed terminal and wonder why I can't paste | 05:23 |
| welshbyte | ...or maybe it is :) | 05:23 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:23 |
| === Quinn_Storm is amazed nobody derided her for her crappy script | ||
| gnux123 | Im using different one. V mode then yank for copy and d for cut | 05:24 |
| tseng | its alot of script | 05:24 |
| tseng | thats for sure | 05:24 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:24 |
| tseng | not sure what else to say | 05:24 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:25 |
| === Quinn_Storm goes back to deciding wether or not to break cgwd into a bunch of packages | ||
| LaserJock | arggg, to many nested iterations | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | I'm good at iterating over many many things :-0 | 05:27 |
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| bddebian | Fujitsu: That did it. Testing build now :-) | 05:27 |
| Quinn_Storm | in what, LaserJock ? | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | a script I'm trying to write | 05:27 |
| Quinn_Storm | ah | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | some days I wish I was a real programmer :/ | 05:27 |
| Quinn_Storm | for each in hell... | 05:27 |
| welshbyte | LaserJock: what, like the ones at microsoft? ;) | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | no, like the ones here | 05:28 |
| welshbyte | good choice | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | right now I'm at if ... for ... for ... if | 05:28 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks bddebian. | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | I need to get smarter here | 05:29 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso: anyone grabed your xawtv yet ? | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | I need to test if $USER is in a particular group in /etc/group | 05:30 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, what aspect of that page am I meant to look at? | 05:31 |
| === Quinn_Storm needs to remember that in configure scripts, quoted variables do not get expanded. (thus, she released compiz-core packages that said $VERSION when asked their version) | ||
| Fujitsu | Hrm. | 05:32 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 05:32 |
| Fujitsu | I left the PO difference when I remerged. | 05:32 |
| bddebian | I noticed that :-) | 05:34 |
| Quinn_Storm | small bugs always try to creep in | 05:34 |
| Fujitsu | Erm, if you haven't gone too far, could you remove them, or shall I upload another diff? | 05:35 |
| bddebian | It's pbuilding now so it's up to you | 05:35 |
| Fujitsu | I should have probably checked that first when I remerged :(... | 05:36 |
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| welshbyte | and large bugs just beat the door down while you're asleep | 05:36 |
| bddebian | hah | 05:37 |
| === Quinn_Storm needs to fix the compiz package lintian warnings too... | ||
| Quinn_Storm | this little warning...safe to ignore? doesn't cause problems in the 'real world', but I hate seeing warnings... - W: compiz: package-relation-with-self depends: compiz | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: What did you want me to remove? | 05:38 |
| crimsun | bddebian: I've already uploaded it. | 05:38 |
| crimsun | it pbuilds/installs/upgrades/removes fine | 05:38 |
| welshbyte | Quinn_Storm: your package depends on itself? | 05:39 |
| crimsun | if you need to iron out the .po stuff, go ahead | 05:39 |
| === bddebian pokes crimsun | ||
| bddebian | :-) | 05:39 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Now, fix xchm ;-) | 05:39 |
| Quinn_Storm | welshbyte: 'compiz' depends on 'compiz-core'...both come from the same source package | 05:39 |
| Quinn_Storm | oh, LOL | 05:40 |
| Quinn_Storm | wow, I didn't realize it | 05:40 |
| welshbyte | :) | 05:40 |
| Quinn_Storm | compiz, incorrectly, depends on compiz, not compiz-core | 05:40 |
| welshbyte | good ol' lintian | 05:40 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: openvrml still building? | 05:40 |
| Quinn_Storm | wait...someone actually uses vrml? | 05:41 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: yeah... i'm expecting it to finish sometime before my birthday | 05:41 |
| bddebian | hehe | 05:41 |
| bddebian | Quinn_Storm: None of us use this stuff, we just build it ;-P | 05:41 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: to avoid huge honkin' diffs, you _can_ generate them against the "latest version in Sid" | 05:41 |
| Quinn_Storm | lol | 05:41 |
| Fujitsu | SHall do, bddebian. | 05:41 |
| Quinn_Storm | and they will come | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks crimsun, bddebian. | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Is there an issue with xchm, bddebian? | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Another new version. | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | This is what happens when merges sit around for a while :( | 05:42 |
| bddebian | Aye, sorry about that | 05:43 |
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| Fujitsu | bddebian, new debdiff attached. | 05:49 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: You gonna do that one too? :-) | 05:50 |
| crimsun | bddebian: no. | 05:51 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Are you sure that one can't just be synced? | 05:53 |
| crimsun | it can't be synced now, no. | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Why? | 05:54 |
| crimsun | because I uploaded it a while ago? | 05:54 |
| bddebian | xchm? | 05:54 |
| crimsun | oh, not xchm. | 05:54 |
| Fujitsu | Some people say to keep it because of that, others don't. | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Erm. | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | What the... | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Te difference vanished. | 05:55 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: ?? My desktop changes were put in the debian package weren't they? | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Something went really wrong when I remerged... | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Looks like they were. | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 05:55 |
| === Fujitsu kicks self. | ||
| Fujitsu | Yes, it can be synced. | 05:56 |
| === Fujitsu kicks self a few times. | ||
| bddebian | Fujitsu: Bah, don't sweat it :-) | 05:56 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: You want to just change your bug to a sync request and I'll approve? | 05:57 |
| Fujitsu | Why not? | 05:57 |
| Fujitsu | OK, I'll change it. | 05:57 |
| Fujitsu | Why shouldn't I sweat it? I should have noticed that. | 05:57 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: I put a diff between sid and Ubuntu did I not? | 05:58 |
| bddebian | Fujitsu: We all miss stuff, believe me :-) | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | hmm, anybody know why I would get "bad number" when comparing 2 integers in a shell script? | 05:58 |
| crimsun | make sure you're actually comparing 2 integers using the correct operator. | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | 1156387832 is ok but it doesn't like 1156380530 | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | oh | 05:59 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: ah, I only read the last e-mail | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | doh | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | gotta but $ in front of those variables ;-) | 06:00 |
| Fujitsu | bddebian, I've modified the bug. | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | what's the difference between /etc/group and /etc/group- | 06:02 |
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| === TheMuso wishes launchpad would put it all in one email like it used to. | ||
| TheMuso | LaserJock: The latter is a backup afaik. | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | i see | 06:05 |
| TheMuso | But don't hold me to that. | 06:06 |
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| TheMuso | crimsun: Thanks. | 06:14 |
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| bddebian | Gnight folks | 06:37 |
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| Sp4rKy | heya | 07:39 |
| Sp4rKy | anyone ? | 07:50 |
| gnux123 | hello | 07:52 |
| Sp4rKy | gnux123, hi, do you know why i've all my files twice in a deb? | 07:53 |
| Sp4rKy | i've all the files over /usr/* and over /debian/foo/usr/ | 07:54 |
| gnux123 | For creating packages or installed? | 07:54 |
| Sp4rKy | for creating package | 07:55 |
| gnux123 | I think it's just the debian way of creating packages | 07:55 |
| Sp4rKy | no, this a strange issue | 07:56 |
| Sp4rKy | i've to go | 07:56 |
| Sp4rKy | bye | 07:56 |
| gnux123 | ok | 07:56 |
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| gnux123 | hello raphink | 08:00 |
| gnux123 | Got this problem with the REVU | 08:00 |
| raphink | hi gnux123 | 08:00 |
| raphink | gnux123: tell me ;) | 08:00 |
| gnux123 | I upload my package yesterday | 08:00 |
| gnux123 | and I can't see it on the site. | 08:00 |
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| raphink | gnux123: let me see | 08:10 |
| raphink | gnux123: what's the name of the package | 08:10 |
| gnux123 | Its asterisk package | 08:10 |
| raphink | ok | 08:10 |
| gnux123 | I'll be waiting | 08:11 |
| raphink | gnux123: are you in the ubuntu-universe-contributors group on LP? | 08:11 |
| gnux123 | yes | 08:11 |
| gnux123 | I just join yesterday | 08:12 |
| raphink | do you have your GPG key on LP aswell? | 08:12 |
| gnux123 | I do | 08:12 |
| raphink | let me refresh the keyring then | 08:13 |
| gnux123 | How will I know if my packages is in the Revu? | 08:14 |
| welshbyte | !revu | 08:15 |
| ubotu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 08:15 |
| raphink | gnux123: I'll tell you in no time | 08:15 |
| raphink | as soon as your key is in | 08:15 |
| raphink | gnux123: let's wait 5 minutes for the cron | 08:16 |
| gnux123 | ok | 08:16 |
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| gnux123 | thanks | 08:24 |
| gnux123 | Is it ok for files to be name with user/group ID's | 08:25 |
| raphink | how do you mean? | 08:26 |
| raphink | ok I think asterisk got in | 08:26 |
| raphink | you should see it on REVU now | 08:26 |
| gnux123 | yes | 08:27 |
| gnux123 | With this one drwxrwx--- 2 109 109 1592 2006-08-25 14:25 asterisk? | 08:27 |
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| raphink | gnux123: well if your package is well done, it should fix the mod when installing anyway | 08:28 |
| raphink | ;) | 08:28 |
| gnux123 | I got this when purging asterisk | 08:28 |
| raphink | ok | 08:29 |
| raphink | I'm sorry I don't hav emuch time right now | 08:29 |
| raphink | I have to get ready for work | 08:29 |
| gnux123 | ok thanks anyway | 08:29 |
| raphink | np | 08:29 |
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| rob | imbrandon: ping | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | pong | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | rob ^^ | 09:21 |
| rob | your the maintainer of kvirc? | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | no but i was the last to touch it the last few times ;) | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | so i guess psudoly | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | if thats a word heh | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | got an issue ? | 09:22 |
| crimsun | (no maintainers per se) | 09:22 |
| rob | oh, do you know whats up with the Freenode entry not pointing to freenode.net apparently? | 09:22 |
| imbrandon | nope i use konversation personaly but i'd be more than happy to look ( most likely its pointing to irc.debian.org like konvo way ) | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | s/way/was | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | i'll grab it right now and look though | 09:24 |
| rob | nalioth pointed it out earlier | 09:24 |
| rob | he's going to log a bug I think, but I thought I'd ask | 09:24 |
| imbrandon | okies, tell him to go ahead and log the bug and i'll close it when i upload the fix | 09:25 |
| rob | ok, great :) | 09:25 |
| rob | thanks for that imbrandon | 09:25 |
| imbrandon | np ;) | 09:25 |
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| rob | he's asleep now, I'll remind him later :) | 09:26 |
| imbrandon | okies | 09:26 |
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| Fujitsu | Oh no.. Not this again :P | 09:28 |
| rob | oh? | 09:29 |
| imbrandon | rob: oh real fast , is chat.freenode or irc.freenode the prefered connection ? or does it matter ? | 09:29 |
| rob | doesn't matter | 09:29 |
| imbrandon | k | 09:29 |
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| Arbiter | hi Gloubiboulga, slomo and Hobbsee :) | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | hey Arbiter | 09:40 |
| === Arbiter is working on kssh :D | ||
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 09:41 |
| === Hobbsee would be rather interested in that | ||
| slomo | hi Arbiter :) | 09:41 |
| Arbiter | while i'm waiting for review of my other packages... :D | 09:41 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 09:41 |
| Arbiter | yesterday Gloubiboulga helped on that ;) | 09:41 |
| === Hobbsee cant review, eat dinner, talk on irc, and call someone at the same time! | ||
| Arbiter | hehehehe :D | 09:42 |
| === Hobbsee is going to go and be a pyro | ||
| gnux123 | Anyone interested to review my packages at revu? | 09:42 |
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| gnux123 | Hi Arbiter | 09:42 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: should be very afraid | 09:42 |
| Arbiter | hi cbx33 :) | 09:42 |
| Arbiter | hi gnux123 | 09:42 |
| cbx33 | hi Arbiter | 09:42 |
| gnux123 | :) | 09:42 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello Arbiter, hello everyone | 09:43 |
| Arbiter | :) | 09:43 |
| Toadstool | good morning everybody | 09:47 |
| Arbiter | good morning Toadstool | 09:48 |
| gnux123 | Good Morning | 09:48 |
| Toadstool | hi Arbiter, gnux123 | 09:49 |
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| gnux123 | Is it bad to postrm "purge" configuration files for a package? | 09:57 |
| crimsun | bad? no. That's one of its purposes. | 09:58 |
| gnux123 | Then why is this happening to some packages? | 10:00 |
| crimsun | eh? | 10:01 |
| Toadstool | uh? what do you mean? | 10:01 |
| Toadstool | hi crimsun | 10:01 |
| crimsun | hi Toadstool | 10:01 |
| crimsun | if you use purge, then it should remove conffiles | 10:01 |
| gnux123 | Im packaging asterisk right now and looking at its postrm configurations are not remove. | 10:02 |
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| Toadstool | gnux123: usually there's a case $1 in\n purge) etc. to determine whether the user asked for a purge or not | 10:03 |
| gnux123 | like this one http://pastebin.com/775509 | 10:03 |
| Toadstool | yep | 10:04 |
| Toadstool | hum dunno if purging a package should remove log files though | 10:05 |
| Toadstool | crimsun: ^ ? | 10:05 |
| gnux123 | How bout that crimsun? | 10:05 |
| crimsun | it's legal to remove the log directory if it's empty, yes, but never if it's non-empty | 10:05 |
| gnux123 | I learn again:). Thanks for the info | 10:06 |
| crimsun | wow, rm -fR? | 10:07 |
| crimsun | that's sick | 10:07 |
| Toadstool | wow... | 10:08 |
| gnux123 | How do you package upstream packages? | 10:08 |
| StevenK | crimsun: It's a bit brutal, but I don't think if Policy expressively forbids it. | 10:08 |
| crimsun | StevenK: right, I was attempting to locate a specific exception but couldn't find one | 10:09 |
| StevenK | I only have a passing familiarity with Policy, so I could be wrong. | 10:09 |
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| Toadstool | "Log files should be removed when the package is purged" policy 10.8 | 10:16 |
| gnux123 | Debian Policy | 10:17 |
| StevenK | Ah ha! | 10:17 |
| imbrandon_ | ok bash guys , i wanna grep a dir for a string in a file , my limited bash skills came up with "cat -R *|grep blah" but that wont show me the file its in | 10:17 |
| Toadstool | :) | 10:17 |
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| Toadstool | imbrandon_: "grep -r blah *" works just fine | 10:18 |
| imbrandon_ | k thanks | 10:18 |
| gnux123 | Toadstool:Right...:) | 10:18 |
| imbrandon_ | like i said limited bash useage ;) | 10:18 |
| imbrandon_ | heh | 10:18 |
| Toadstool | np ;) | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | cool! | 10:18 |
| Toadstool | hey Hobbsee! | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | heya Toadstool! | 10:19 |
| imbrandon_ | btw moins Toadstool StevenK and crimsun ;) | 10:19 |
| crimsun | Toadstool: ah, cool | 10:19 |
| crimsun | well, at least it's Policy even if I disagree with it | 10:19 |
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| crimsun | 'lo (again) imbrandon_ | 10:19 |
| Toadstool | 'lo imbrandon_ | 10:19 |
| crimsun | flight to catch in a few hours, see y'all | 10:24 |
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| Hobbsee | wb dholbach | 10:24 |
| dholbach | re :) | 10:25 |
| Toadstool | hi dholbach | 10:25 |
| gnux123 | hello dholbach | 10:25 |
| gnux123 | How hard is to maintained packages? opinion, experience... | 10:28 |
| Toadstool | it depends on the package ;) | 10:28 |
| gnux123 | Multiple bin? Libs? | 10:29 |
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| Arbiter | I need reviews for the following packages: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2955 (ktagebuch) -- http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2953 (knowit) -- http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2952 (kcmpureftpd). Thanks. | 10:46 |
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| welshbyte | wow... openvrml has finally finished building | 11:08 |
| welshbyte | it took 18 hours | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | It is an impressive beast... | 11:08 |
| welshbyte | that's one word for it :) | 11:09 |
| grexk | woooo | 11:09 |
| grexk | when did you start it? | 11:09 |
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| welshbyte | 18 hours ago ;) | 11:11 |
| grexk | let me count | 11:12 |
| welshbyte | it was munching around 1.5GB of memory at some points | 11:12 |
| grexk | Its 5.12Pm from 23:00AM? | 11:13 |
| grexk | waaa | 11:13 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello bddebian | 04:23 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 04:23 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 06:06 |
| bddebian | Heya Sp4rKy. Any luck yet? :-) | 06:06 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, yep | 06:06 |
| bddebian | Sweet. Was it the .install file? | 06:07 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 06:07 |
| Sp4rKy | thanks Gloubiboulga :D | 06:07 |
| bddebian | Awesome | 06:07 |
| Sp4rKy | just a small question | 06:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) | 06:07 |
| Sp4rKy | does exist any option for log output in a file during pbuilder ? | 06:07 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: Sorry, you've used up your quota.. ;-P | 06:07 |
| bddebian | > foo.log 2>&1 ? | 06:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | hehe | 06:08 |
| Toadstool | Sp4rKy: I use pbuilder [options] | tee buildlog | 06:09 |
| Toadstool | hi all | 06:09 |
| bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 06:10 |
| Sp4rKy | Toadstool, bddebian k thx | 06:11 |
| Toadstool | hey bddebian! what's up? | 06:11 |
| bddebian | Toadstool: Same old grunt work, thanks. You? | 06:12 |
| Toadstool | bddebian: Preparing my moving to San Diego | 06:13 |
| Toadstool | one week left :) | 06:13 |
| bddebian | Oh nice, San Diego is one of my favorite areas in California | 06:13 |
| ryanakca | Can someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2939 please? | 06:14 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, i'd tried 2>&1 > foo.log :/ | 06:14 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: I did :-) | 06:14 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: give me a few seconds and I'll have a look at it | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: You did "sudo pbuilder build foo.dsc > foo.log 2>&1" ? | 06:15 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: two people need to review & advocate before it gets into repos... right? | 06:15 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: Aye, just wasn't sure if you saw that :) | 06:15 |
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| geser | Sp4rKy: add --pkgname-logfile to build | 06:20 |
| geser | you will get a logfile in the results dir | 06:20 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: thanks | 06:20 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: lol | 06:20 |
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| Sp4rKy | geser, thx | 06:34 |
| Sp4rKy | bddebian, i did "sudo pbuilder build foo.dsc 2>&1 > foo.log" , didn't work | 06:35 |
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| Toadstool | ryanakca: added a few comments on eqonomize | 06:40 |
| bddebian | Sp4rKy: Aye, it wouldn't | 06:40 |
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| trappist | if there's a patch in debian/patches that needs fixing, do I just fix it and make a debdiff, or what? | 06:41 |
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| bddebian | trappist: It depends on the change. If it's trivial, sometimes you can just get away with modifying the patch itself | 06:45 |
| trappist | bddebian: yeah it's just a typo | 06:45 |
| trappist | bddebian: what do I send to launchpad? a debdiff that patches the patch? | 06:45 |
| bddebian | trappist: Personnally, I would just update the patch file then | 06:45 |
| trappist | right... but then what do I send to launchpad? I don't have upload rights on anything | 06:46 |
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| LaserJock | trappist: if it's like a one liner or something I'd just upload a patch to the patch | 06:47 |
| trappist | LaserJock: that's what I'm looking for, thanks | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | but if it needs explaining you should create a changelog and upload a debdiff, IMO | 06:47 |
| bddebian | trappist: Oh, sorry | 06:47 |
| trappist | bddebian: :) | 06:47 |
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| welshbyte | ello all | 06:52 |
| bddebian | welshbyte!!!!!! | 06:53 |
| welshbyte | bddebian!! | 06:53 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Are you an Ubuntu member yet? | 06:55 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: no.. should i be? :) | 06:56 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: Of course :) | 06:56 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: You are my new hero ;-P | 06:56 |
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| welshbyte | hehe | 06:56 |
| welshbyte | because i slayed the evil openvrml? :P | 06:56 |
| bddebian | And gnu-smalltalk, and ipac-ng :-) | 06:57 |
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| welshbyte | don't forget prismstumbler ;) | 06:57 |
| welshbyte | so how does one become a ubuntu member? | 06:58 |
| Sp4rKy | how could i add a package from a repository (local) ? | 06:58 |
| welshbyte | Sp4rKy: if you have the .deb file then you can use sudo dpkg -i foo.deb to install it, otherwise you'd need to add the repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:00 |
| welshbyte | though i might have misread your meaning of the word "add" | 07:01 |
| Sp4rKy | yes | 07:01 |
| Sp4rKy | i want add a package to a repository which will be usuable for other users | 07:02 |
| welshbyte | ah | 07:02 |
| welshbyte | in that case... i dunno :) | 07:02 |
| Sp4rKy | :) | 07:02 |
| geser | create a Packages file with apt-ftparchive | 07:02 |
| Sp4rKy | geser, i think there is alr"eady a Packages file | 07:03 |
| geser | and add an entry to source.list pointing to your repository | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | geser no | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | the repository already exists | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | i just want add a soft TO this repository | 07:03 |
| geser | then you need to recreate the Packages file | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | k | 07:03 |
| Sp4rKy | juste do it | 07:04 |
| Sp4rKy | ? | 07:04 |
| geser | how was this repository created? | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | I used dput and mini-dinstall, I think when I did it | 07:04 |
| Sp4rKy | i don't know, this is the problem :/ | 07:04 |
| Sp4rKy | geser, personnally i use reprepro | 07:04 |
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| LaserJock | Sp4rKy: you probably should find what repo tool is used | 07:05 |
| Sp4rKy | :p | 07:05 |
| Sp4rKy | LaserJock, hmmm, how can i do ? | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | Sp4rKy: ask the person running the repo | 07:06 |
| geser | is it simple one directory or does it have a pool/ directory? | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | if you are uploading to their repo I assume you are communicating to them ;-) | 07:06 |
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| Sp4rKy | LaserJock, he 's in holiday :/ | 07:07 |
| Sp4rKy | geser, have a pool direcotry | 07:07 |
| tritium | bddebian: what came of your request to sync mythtv from debian-multimedia.org? | 07:07 |
| Sp4rKy | http://e17.tuxfamily.org/ | 07:07 |
| bddebian | tritium: Still sitting on LP :-( | 07:07 |
| tritium | bddebian: okay, thanks... | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | tritium! | 07:08 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 07:08 |
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| bddebian | welshbyte: You add your name to the list :-) | 07:08 |
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| tritium | Hi LaserJock :) | 07:09 |
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| bddebian | wb Arbiter :-) | 07:09 |
| Sp4rKy | LaserJock, geser seems use apt-ftparchive for creating repository | 07:10 |
| Sp4rKy | apt-ftparchive generate -q=0 scripts/apt-ftparchive.conf | 07:10 |
| Sp4rKy | apt-ftparchive -c scripts/apt-release.conf release dists/$SUITE/ >dists/$SUITE/Release | 07:10 |
| Arbiter | where's a list of unofficial repos for ubuntu? | 07:12 |
| Arbiter | found | 07:13 |
| Arbiter | :) | 07:13 |
| Sp4rKy | so, how can i add a deb ? | 07:14 |
| tritium | bddebian: I hate to say it, but I am putting either etch or knoppmyth on my htpc | 07:14 |
| bddebian | ACK, traitor! :-) | 07:16 |
| tritium | bddebian: sorry ;) | 07:16 |
| bddebian | tritium: Just add the debian-multimedia repo and install mythtv from there! :) | 07:17 |
| tritium | bddebian: yeah, I was just trying that now actually | 07:18 |
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| bddebian | tritium: Should work, I asked for a straight sync of it | 07:18 |
| tritium | bddebian: sync would be from source. Which binary repo would you use? | 07:18 |
| bddebian | tritium: Oh, hang on | 07:19 |
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| bddebian | tritium: http://mirror.home-dn.net/debian-multimedia | 07:20 |
| tritium | bddebian: thanks. Is that a mirror of his unstable repo? | 07:21 |
| bddebian | Aye | 07:21 |
| tritium | bddebian: ok, thanks. Was mostly asking about stable/testing/unstable | 07:21 |
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| bddebian | unstable, sorry | 07:21 |
| tritium | no problem, thanks again :) | 07:22 |
| AnAnt | isn't there a way to resume a dput upload instead of restarting it ? | 07:22 |
| AnAnt | I have a problem packaging a library (fsplib), it installs in debian/tmp/usr/{lib,include}. so I got fsplib0.install file which contains: usr/lib/* , and fsplib-dev.install file | 07:24 |
| AnAnt | which contains: usr/include/* | 07:24 |
| AnAnt | yet, the resulting packages don't have anything in the lib & include dirs ! | 07:24 |
| AnAnt | anyone knows what may cause that ? | 07:26 |
| tritium | bddebian: eww, dependency mess | 07:26 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: so what do you say about crimsun's comment that I sent you ? | 07:27 |
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| bddebian | tritium: I wondered about that :-( | 07:29 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: I'm sorry, please refresh my memory | 07:29 |
| AnAnt | AnAnt: about elinks | 07:30 |
| AnAnt | errr | 07:30 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: about elinks | 07:30 |
| AnAnt | I must be crazy talking to myself | 07:30 |
| ryanakca | Lintian complains about rpath being defined in /usr/bin/eqonomize. You should fix this. how do I fix it? | 07:30 |
| ryanakca | I have no clue what "rpath" is, even | 07:31 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: the 3 issues in the elinks package, that I beleive that those issues exist in the package which is already in the edgy repos | 07:31 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: I sent a memo about it about 24 hours ago | 07:31 |
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| bddebian | AnAnt: As I said before, I would just make a note on the REVU page stating that those errors exist in the current package, if you aren't going to fix them. | 07:32 |
| AnAnt | ok, than manpage thing, you know how to fix it ? | 07:33 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: and that pkg-not-in-package-test ? | 07:33 |
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| AnAnt | that second issue I know that it occurs in packages that have several build targets | 07:34 |
| AnAnt | but dunno what to do about it | 07:34 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: To be honest, no, I am not sure how to fix either one, sorry | 07:37 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: ping ... couple questions | 07:37 |
| Toadstool | yep? | 07:38 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: ? | 07:39 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: ok... rpath? lost me there... lintian doesn't output anything about it... and to be honest... have no clue what it is, let alone fix it... | 07:39 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: all I see about rPath on google is that it's a linux distro | 07:40 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: "W: eqonomize: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/bin/eqonomize /usr/lib:/lib" | 07:40 |
| Toadstool | it's bad :) | 07:40 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... | 07:41 |
| ryanakca | so is that packaging error somewhere? or is it something in source code? | 07:41 |
| Toadstool | source code | 07:41 |
| Toadstool | wait, trying to find some doc for you | 07:42 |
| ryanakca | *gulps* now I'm mortified | 07:42 |
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| ryanakca | I'm just starting to learn C... let alone cpp | 07:42 |
| ryanakca | kk, ty | 07:43 |
| Toadstool | don't worry, it's just a tiny fix | 07:43 |
| cypher1 | Toadstool, what is it about ? | 07:43 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: let me guess, I'll have to use a patch system for the fix? | 07:44 |
| Toadstool | cypher1: eqonomize defines a rpath in my amd64 pbuilder at least | 07:44 |
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| Toadstool | ryanakca: you can have a look at lesstif2 if you want to have an example | 07:45 |
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| Toadstool | ryanakca: apt-get source lesstif2 and examine debian/fixrpath and debian/rules | 07:45 |
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| ryanakca | kk | 07:46 |
| Toadstool | and if you have further questions, ping me ;) | 07:46 |
| ryanakca | ping :) | 07:46 |
| Toadstool | lol | 07:47 |
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| ryanakca | Copyright... what else is there... I looked threw COPYING... theres nothing other than the GPL... | 07:48 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: grep -rin copyright * ^^ | 07:48 |
| Toadstool | there are a few copyright notices in the source files you have to mention in your debian/copyright | 07:49 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: so what do I add... something like: admin/ltmain.sh Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. etcetcetc? | 07:50 |
| Toadstool | no, not those :p | 07:50 |
| Toadstool | "Copyright (c) 2004 Bram Schoenmakers <bramschoenmakers@kde.nl>" in src/kdatepickerpopup.h for example | 07:51 |
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| ryanakca | oh, so the src/* ones? | 07:51 |
| Toadstool | yeah | 07:52 |
| ryanakca | and what about the ones in the main source dir, like: | 07:52 |
| ryanakca | acinclude.m4 Copyright (C) 1997 Janos Farkas (chexum@shadow.banki.hu) | 07:52 |
| ryanakca | or is that a "safe to ignore" case? | 07:52 |
| Toadstool | you can skip those related to file automatically generated by the autotools | 07:53 |
| Toadstool | *files | 07:53 |
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| ryanakca | kk, thanks :) | 07:54 |
| ryanakca | I'll hunt you down later... if ever I figure out that rpath thingy | 07:55 |
| Toadstool | ok | 07:55 |
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| bddebian | welshbyte: Still around? | 08:14 |
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| welshbyte | aye | 08:14 |
| bddebian | heh | 08:14 |
| welshbyte | (visiting the parents this weekend) | 08:14 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: You running Edgy? | 08:14 |
| bddebian | Oh | 08:14 |
| welshbyte | sadly not | 08:14 |
| bddebian | welshbyte: You are fired ;-P | 08:14 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: bah, what was the task going to be? | 08:15 |
| bddebian | I need someone to test a desktop file for flight-of-the-amazon-queeen :) | 08:16 |
| welshbyte | sounds like a fun package | 08:17 |
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| bddebian | Any Edgy users about? | 08:18 |
| tseng | whats to test in a desktop file? | 08:19 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: ok, ./debian/fixrpath is supposed to be executed right after ./configure is run.... but, in cdbs, how would I get it to run after config, but before the install? | 08:19 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: yep | 08:19 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: what tseng said | 08:20 |
| bddebian | tseng: I don't have any working Edgy boxes (at least for Gnome) | 08:20 |
| bddebian | tseng: Just want to make sure it gets installed and kicks off properly. It's a scummvm thing so I'm not sure the app will start properly | 08:21 |
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| ryanakca | bddebian: send me the package and I'll test it for you... or the source :) | 08:27 |
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| bddebian | ryanakca: Do you have a decent connection? | 08:29 |
| ryanakca | I can go upto 800kb/s | 08:29 |
| bddebian | Nice, OK | 08:29 |
| ryanakca | but most of the time, around 300kb/s | 08:30 |
| ryanakca | depends on the mood of my ISP :) | 08:30 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/amazon_queen/ | 08:31 |
| ryanakca | ewww... 44kb/s | 08:33 |
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| Sp4rKy | what's the architecture param for 64 bit computer ? | 08:35 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: that for a 386/686, right? | 08:36 |
| Sp4rKy | i64 ? | 08:38 |
| ryanakca | no clue... I stay away from 64... look at kernels... it'll tell you what all the arch are | 08:39 |
| geser | ia64 is itanium and x86_64 is amd64/em64t | 08:39 |
| Sp4rKy | geser, k | 08:39 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: Yep | 08:40 |
| CarlFK | anyone have some advice on how I should install PythonMagic on dapper? (is there a .deb, ?) | 08:40 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: kk, phew... it would suck if I was downloading a 64 deb... 50%... 30kb/s... | 08:41 |
| bddebian | CarlFK: apt-get install python2.4-magic? | 08:41 |
| CarlFK | I don't think that is the same magic | 08:41 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: is it your bad connection, mine or one of our ISPs being a pain? | 08:41 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: Probably my upload speed. It's governed :-( | 08:41 |
| ryanakca | governed? | 08:42 |
| bddebian | limited | 08:42 |
| ryanakca | oh... wonder why... :( | 08:42 |
| bddebian | I get like 10Mb down and only like 384k up | 08:42 |
| bddebian | So I don't run porn sites out of my house :-) | 08:42 |
| ryanakca | I'm supposed to get 10mb down, but I never do... | 08:42 |
| ryanakca | lol | 08:42 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... what do they mean by "editing patches"? creating them? I can't see any point in editing one... | 08:44 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: I don't know the context but probably directly editing an existing patch file instead of creating a new one | 08:45 |
| CarlFK | how can I find what depends on imagemagick? | 08:46 |
| bddebian | CarlFK: apt-cache rdepends imagemagick | 08:46 |
| CarlFK | tx | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Of course that doesn't do build-depends | 08:46 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: That sucker finish yet? I have to download beneath-a-steel-sky yet and that thing is bigger than amazon queen :-( | 08:47 |
| CarlFK | it is enough to convince me there is no PythonMagick package | 08:48 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: 96% | 08:48 |
| ryanakca | oh god... I'd put a warning in debian/control... "WARNING: DO NOT DOWNLOAD UNLESS YOU HAVE A GOOD CONNECTION!" | 08:48 |
| ryanakca | done | 08:49 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: http://revu.tauware.de/~jcorbier/dolphin.diff <-- a patch I made to help someone else | 08:49 |
| bddebian | CarlFK: What is this PythonMagick that you are trying to use? | 08:49 |
| CarlFK | http://www.python.net/crew/zack/pymagick/ | 08:49 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: ty, for? cdbs? | 08:49 |
| Toadstool | cdbs, fixrpath | 08:50 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: Package scummvm is not installed. | 08:51 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: It's not a depends? | 08:51 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: nice, thanks... from what I understand of the patch... add the "configure" section, except change it to "configure/eqonomize::"? | 08:52 |
| Toadstool | ryanakca: yep, that's it | 08:53 |
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| ryanakca | bddebian: http://pastebin.ca/149362 | 08:53 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: Aye, please do an apt-get -f install | 08:53 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: konversation is awesome... I'd add a dialog for history if I knew how though... | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:54 |
| ryanakca | much better than that dapper one anywais... and now they have the auto-replace so that I can re-kidnap .se.veas.'s smile | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | lol | 08:57 |
| ryanakca | I remember bugging them for that a while back :-) | 08:57 |
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| ryanakca | bddebian: works... this looks kindof interesting :) | 09:02 |
| CarlFK | swell - Get the PythonMagick distribution ... ftp://ftp.lems.brown.edu/pub/turtles/magick/pymagick-0.1a7.tar.gz 404 | 09:02 |
| ryanakca | bddebian: no icon though | 09:03 |
| bddebian | ryanakca: Aye, I know :-( | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | hmm, anybody know how I can find extentions for FF 2? | 09:10 |
| LaserJock | or are there just none yet | 09:11 |
| geser | some extensions support already FF2 but not all | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | is there an easy way to find which ones do and don't? it seem sort of trial-and-error | 09:13 |
| CarlFK | found it: http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/PythonMagick-0.6.tar.gz | 09:13 |
| geser | addons.mozilla.org lists the supported versions on the seperate page for each extension | 09:14 |
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| geser | sometimes one can find an development version supporting FF2 on the homepage of the extension | 09:15 |
| bddebian | Later gang | 09:33 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: Some of them work, some of them don't, it's mainly trial and error... same with the themes... | 10:16 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | has anyone used alien to convert RPMs to Debs? | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | I have in the past | 10:17 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | how successful was it? | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: I found some anyway :-) | 10:17 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | LaserJock: without tweaking | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | [Utah] tristanbob: pretty well | 10:17 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: good... I just wish iFox was available for 2.0 | 10:17 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | what type of RPM works best, RHEL, FC4, FC5, etc? | 10:17 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | I am trying to create a Debian package for "Net::SSH::Perl" based on an RPM | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | I'm not really sure if it matters much | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | I remember making OO.o .debs from RPMs and I did a packaging project based on aliened RPMs | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | the content itself isn't too bad | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | you just need to look at the deps (the ones I've seen are all versioned when they don't have to be) | 10:20 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | Laserjock - How do I check the dependancies on the deb that was created? | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | extract the control info | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | dpkg -e I think | 10:23 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | yes, that did it - created a folder called DEBIAN | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | yep | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | in DEBIAN is control | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: so... no sudo with pbuilder? | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: hmm? | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | hmm... then it wasn't you... | 10:26 |
| ryanakca | I was having a conversation with someone a couple of days ago about weither or not you should use sudo with pbuilder | 10:27 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | LaserJock: yes, there is a short control file and a MD5SUMS file | 10:27 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | I assume it placed the source files where they are listed in the md5sums file? | 10:27 |
| LaserJock | how do you mean? | 10:30 |
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| [Utah] tristanbob | LaserJock: thanks for your help - I just cannot wrap my brain around debian packaging | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | what do you want to know | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | ? | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | do you want to create a debian source package from the RPM? | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | is a source tarball available? | 10:34 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | I have read several packaging guides... | 10:34 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | well the perl module is in CPAN | 10:34 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | net::ssh::perl | 10:34 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | so, yes | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | then it would probably be better to start from there rather then an rpm | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | although the control file you extracted could help when trying to figure out dependecies | 10:36 |
| geser | if you want to see depends and other info of a deb-file: dpkg-deb -I filename.deb | 10:37 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | the control file is VERY short | 10:41 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | geser: thanks, I will use that | 10:41 |
| geser | if you need the contents of a deb-file use -c | 10:42 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | geser: also useful - thanks | 10:43 |
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| [Utah] tristanbob | LaserJock: as you said, I think the best thing would be to build the package from scratch | 10:44 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | since it is a perl module, I could look at the deb packages for similar modules | 10:44 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | using the commands that geser mentioned | 10:44 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: can I update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto so that it doesn't include the "sudo" part? you can easily run pbuilder without sudo | 10:44 |
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| LaserJock | ryanakca: hmm, I'm not sure | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: perhaps email the ubuntu-motu list and see what people think | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | I would think there was a reason, but maybe not :-) | 10:47 |
| ryanakca | kk | 10:47 |
| [Utah] tristanbob | LaserJock: would you recommend I follow the debhelper method described in the Ubuntu Packaging Guide? | 10:53 |
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| LaserJock | [Utah] tristanbob: yeah | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 10:54 |
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| ryanakca | why do I get a bunch of these errors while running pbuilder? | 11:35 |
| ryanakca | dpkg-architecture: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (1234) | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | cause | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 11:36 |
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| LaserJock | ryanakca: I can't remember the specific reason, but it is a known thing | 11:37 |
| ryanakca | kk | 11:42 |
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| ryanakca | LaserJock: could you please review eqonomize for me? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2939 | 11:55 |
| ryanakca | Toadstool: ping | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: is that a new package or a update? | 12:01 |
| LaserJock | ryanakca: and do you really need a dep on patchutils? | 12:04 |
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| ryanakca | erm... I had removed that I thought... | 12:04 |
| ryanakca | LaserJock: new package | 12:05 |
| ryanakca | darn'it... it never was removed... I'll fix it... sorry 'bout that | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | the url you gave was for an older upload ;-) | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | nah, you fixed it | 12:06 |
| ryanakca | lol, phew | 12:06 |
| ryanakca | I was looking at my control wondering where the bleep it was | 12:06 |
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