[12:00] <uwo> try again - was fooling around with splash & themes and "broke" gnome - it freezes short after strange splash, without loading desktop background and with empty panels blinking - how do i reinstall default settings??? reinstall gnome-desktop? delete some directory?
[12:01] <Jman8888> sethk: ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21588
[12:01] <sethk> Jman8888, ok, do    sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[12:01] <anthony_> I'm following this walk-through: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13576, and as soon as I get to step five it says "sudo mv ipw2200-fw-2.2.tgz /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ is not a directory: No such file or directory".  what shall I do?
[12:01] <sethk> Jman8888, then at the prompt, select "change partition type", and change it to 83
[12:02] <bascule_> JoseStefan: yes i thought of that but it leaves the recipient stuck with my choices:( i'm going to rethink my choice of distro, i had thought that xubuntu would be a good way of sending old machines off to new homes but not if i have to provide after care, thanks for your time though
[12:02] <Intangir> where should i begin, setting up a printer?
[12:02] <kling0n_> intangir linuxprinting.org
[12:02] <sethk> Jman8888, you'll do change partition type, and it may ask you to specify the partition, or it may be smart enough to know you have only one partition on the drive
[12:02] <sethk> Jman8888, after changing the type, write and exit
[12:02] <kling0n_> intangir or goto Administration->printign
[12:02] <kling0n_> printing even
[12:02] <sethk> Jman8888, then do    sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:02] <nickd2> PLEASE help me. I have spent all day trying to install ubuntu. Both server and alternate hang on "Configuring ubuntu-minimal" I am going crazy trying to get this to work!
[12:03] <JoseStefan> bascule_, much OS are designed with internet based updates in mind
[12:03] <nick_name> i try becoming root user using su, but i get authentication failure
[12:03] <Jman8888> sethk: .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21589 I only see 2 options
[12:03] <HymnToLife> !sudo > nick_name
[12:04] <sethk> Jman8888, it says  "m for help"   type m, and you'll see how to do it
[12:04] <nickd2> is there a bug with the current amd64 installers?
[12:04] <sethk> Jman8888, those aren't options, that's just information
[12:04] <kling0n_> josestefan what kind of hardware are you trying to install on?
[12:04] <sethk> Jman8888, the only option you see there is m
[12:04] <NemesisUK> any1 in here use wine?
[12:04] <sethk> Jman8888, m tells you what the other available options are
[12:04] <_alexandra> any guy here to help me:( i have a problem with my video driver
[12:04] <JoseStefan> kling0n_, not me
[12:04] <NemesisUK> _alexandra, what card?
[12:05] <_alexandra> ati
[12:05] <BBlinkK> im having problems enabling my wireless card.  Its a usb RT2500 chipset, it shows up as rausb0 under networking, but when I click activate, ubuntu freezes up
[12:05] <kling0n_> josestefan sry
[12:05] <NemesisUK> _alexandra, model
[12:05] <_alexandra> please
[12:05] <Jman8888> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21590
[12:05] <aburton> is there a good program for ubuntu to recover data from an ntfs drive? It's not recognizing any of the partitions on the drive
[12:05] <kling0n_> nick2d what hardware are you trying to install on?
[12:05] <_alexandra> it must be readon 9550
[12:05] <lupine_85> BBlinkK: that's because the drivers don't support the ubuntu GUI config tool
[12:05] <sid> How can I boot Ubuntu Dapper installer as text installer? Like debian sarge
[12:05] <uwo> try again - was fooling around with splash & themes and "broke" gnome - it freezes short after strange splash, without loading desktop background and with empty panels blinking - how do i reinstall default settings??? reinstall gnome-desktop? delete some directory?
[12:05] <nickd2> kling0n_: amd64 on a nforce3 mboard. I have tried multiple burns and the iso md5 checks out
[12:05] <JoseStefan> sid, you have to download the alternate CD, not the live CD
[12:06] <sethk> Jman8888, t, change the partition's system id
[12:06] <lupine_85> there is another config utility (made especially for these cards) though
[12:06] <NemesisUK> _alexandra, pm me it'll be easier and quieter to explain stuff
[12:06] <kling0n_> nick2d just checking: you *are* using an amd64 install disk? not an x85 one?
[12:06] <BBlinkK> lupine: whats this other config utility?
[12:06] <kling0n_> x86 even
[12:07] <nGen>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY xpap20
[12:07] <lupine_85> it's called RutilT
[12:07] <kling0n_> nicngen i'd change that pass right now
[12:07] <lupine_85> I've got a repo with it in if you want to download it from there
[12:07] <kling0n_> ngen i'd change that pass right now
[12:07] <lupine_85> deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ dapper main
[12:07] <Jman8888> sethk: Now what http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21592
[12:07] <lupine_85> package ralink-config
[12:07] <nickd2> kling0n_: yup tried all 3: desktop alternate and server
[12:07] <Flannel> cjones: no.  That's the easiest way to downgrade.  You can also see this (make all breezy references dapper, and hoary references breezy): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[12:07] <kling0n_> nick2d there is a debug console on one of the ttys (cant remember which)
[12:08] <sethk> Jman8888, 83
[12:08] <lupine_85> there are also several ralink-drivers packages that might be more up-to-date than what you're using now
[12:08] <kling0n_> try alt-f2 through alt-f4
[12:08] <JAG1> could anyone tell me how to clear the search history from the gnome-search-tool?Under the Name contains dialog box it has a list of all the files i have searched for and the list has grown rather large.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[12:08] <johnny_> how do i make links to the desktop for applications for xfce?
[12:08] <Jman8888> sethk: Changed system type of partition 1 to 83 (Linux)
[12:08] <StephenL> Anyone know what file to edit to add startup programs??
[12:08] <sethk> Jman8888, correct
[12:08] <secleinteer> hey, if i'm at the part where kubuntu starts installing and the install progress bar is stuck at the beginning, does that mean my .iso is corrupted?
[12:08] <johnny_> or add applications to the panel?
[12:09] <sethk> Jman8888, now w
[12:09] <sethk> Jman8888, for write and exit
[12:09] <johnny_> or copy and paste to the dekstop?
[12:09] <FireHazard17> could check your md5sum
[12:09] <johnny_> can xfce do that?
[12:09] <Flannel> secleinteer: perhaps.  Burn it at 4x, and check the md5
[12:09] <secleinteer> or do large hdd's take a long time to format?
[12:09] <JoseStefan> new PHP 5.1.6 today, should I worry that ubuntu is falling back?
[12:09] <secleinteer> how do i check the md5?
[12:09] <secleinteer> wait nvm
[12:09] <secleinteer> it's started
[12:09] <Flannel> secleinteer: large harddrives do take a while though.
[12:09] <nickd2> what does ubuntu-minimal do anyway?
[12:09] <JAG1> could anyone tell me how to clear the search history from the gnome-search-tool?Under the Name contains dialog box it has a list of all the files i have searched for and the list has grown rather large.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[12:10] <BBlinkK> also, whats a good irc client for mac?
[12:10] <Jman8888> sethk: Command (m for help): w
[12:10] <Jman8888> The partition table has been altered!---Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.---Syncing disks.
[12:10] <aburton> is there a good program for ubuntu to recover data from an ntfs drive? My install isn't recognizing any of the partitions on the drive.
[12:10] <lupine_85> nickd2: isntalls the same stuff as debootstrap
[12:10] <kling0n_> nick2d its the minumum install of ubuntu basically just system packages
[12:10] <sethk> Jman8888, ok, that's normal
[12:10] <sethk> Jman8888, you should be back to the command line
[12:10] <BBlinkK> god im learning like 3 new OS's right now, and I dont even have a windows box anymore
[12:10] <kling0n_> nick2d do you have any usb peripherals connected?
[12:10] <Flannel> nickd2: ubuntu-minimal sets up a fairly barebones linux system
[12:10] <Jman8888> sethk: Yeah. Is that it?
[12:10] <sethk> Jman8888, now do:  sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:10] <bluefox83> ok, i hosed my xorg.conf and i keep getting that stupid timestamp error, what was the -K thingy?
[12:10] <lupine_85> Just over 100MB, but it works :)
[12:10] <johnny_> what package is the theme humility  in ?
[12:10] <johnny_> for xfce
[12:10] <GUIPEnguin_> why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an intel x68?  such as 'package' is not avalible in any software channel'  I read normally this is to do that apt cant get to the internet....but.... I can do  sudo aptitude  update and it contacts the internet fine... wth is up with this?
[12:11] <Flannel> bluefox83: sudo -K  it'll reset your timestamps soyou don't get the "timestamp too far in the future"
[12:11] <Flannel> johnny_: try #xubuntu
[12:11] <johnny_> i already found it
[12:11] <johnny_> but  how do i make links in xfce
[12:12] <Flannel> johnny_: #xubuntu can help you, it's an xfce specific thing
[12:12] <JAG1> could anyone tell me how to clear the search history from the gnome-search-tool?Under the Name contains dialog box it has a list of all the files i have searched for and the list has grown rather large.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[12:12] <NemesisUK> _alexandra, you going to explain your problem?
[12:12] <johnny_> so i should download xubuntu default-settings Flannel ?
[12:12] <StephenL> It's nowhere in my home directory.
[12:12] <Jman8888> sethk: Now what?
[12:13] <Flannel> johnny_: no, I didn't say that.  Ask in #xubuntu, they are familiar with xfce
[12:13] <johnny_> oh
[12:13] <johnny_> ok thanks
[12:13] <johnny_> one other question
[12:13] <johnny_> i have a dual boot set
[12:13] <sethk> Jman8888, now you can mount it.  Here is an example:    sudo mkdir /usr2; mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /usr2
[12:13] <johnny_> and sometimes when i turn my computer off it will say that it cant mount hda1
[12:13] <sethk> Jman8888, a mount point is just an empty directory
[12:13] <johnny_> or it cant find it
[12:13] <JoeG> Hi, I was wondering what the X update is.
[12:13] <johnny_> and it will go to a prompt
[12:13] <Jman8888> sethk: sudo mkdir /usr2; mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /usr2 So that will mount it? Where?
[12:14] <johnny_> but its not like a regular prompt
[12:14] <sethk> johnny_, are you doing a correct shutdown?
[12:14] <johnny_> yea sethk
[12:14] <sethk> Jman8888, where will it mount it?  on /usr2
[12:14] <johnny_> but it says could not mount something on tty1
[12:14] <sethk> Jman8888, where do you type it?  at the command line
[12:14] <johnny_> hda1 not found
[12:14] <johnny_> and then it goes to this prompt
[12:14] <wolfmanz> How do i get my ATI drover working again after downgrading xorg?
[12:14] <riddler> hello, what are the ports to open in a firewall to allow vnc to connect to a pc from outside?
[12:14] <sethk> johnny_, wait, you said tty1, then you said hda1.  get the exact message
[12:14] <lupine_85> how can I force apt-get to grab a package which is for a different architecture?
[12:15] <MystaMax> anyone know how to make FireFox associate an IRC link with Xchat?
[12:15] <sethk> Jman8888, to get the partition to mount when you boot, you add it to /etc/fstab
[12:15] <lupine_85> (I want linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64 :D)
[12:15] <_alexandra> can anybody help me with my driver problem...plzz
[12:16] <grimboy> Hey, does anyone here know where rhythmbox stores its music database file? I need to delete it to stop rhythmbox crashing when its started up.
[12:16] <uwo> try again - was fooling around with splash & themes and "broke" gnome - it freezes short after strange splash, without loading desktop background and with empty panels blinking - how do i reinstall default settings??? reinstall gnome-desktop? delete some directory?
[12:16] <Jman8888> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21595 . I think i did something wrong.
[12:16] <JoseStefan> How can I stop Ubuntu from drinking all my liquor ?
[12:17] <sethk> Jman8888, looks like the mkfs.ext3 didn't run correctly.
[12:17] <sethk> Jman8888, try it again:
[12:17] <sethk> Jman8888, sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:17] <uwo> i'll ask simpler - if i reinstall ubuntu-desktop, do i return to default settings???
[12:18] <bean-oh> uwo, did you break the login gdm or just your own instance after logging in?
[12:19] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <uwo> bean-oh- my own instance
[12:19] <k31th> Anyone got any recomends for a decent vnc viewer ?
[12:19] <uwo> bean -oh: i can login as different user
[12:19] <bean-oh> uwo, if you nuke your .gnome2 conf files you can start over with your gnome settings.
[12:19] <bean-oh> you'll lose your gnome app settings too
[12:20] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-amd64
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers-amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <uwo> bean-of: wonderfull - no problem with losing settings - how do i do this?
[12:20] <lupine_85> !linux-headers-amd64-generic
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-headers-amd64-generic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <lupine_85> :'(
[12:20] <k31th> !gentoo
[12:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[12:20] <bina> Hi, I'm trying to get my ATI to use the ATI rendering libraries rather than the Mesa ones so I can use direct rendering.  I've followed a load of tutorials on google but still not using the ati libs.  I thought I'd try removing libgl1-mesa-dri but it wants to get rid of x-window-system-core.  Is that just a meta package or is that quite dangerous to get rid of?
[12:20] <k31th> !virus
[12:20] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:20] <Jman8888> sethk: Is it ok to change the name of the place is mounted? Like to /hd
[12:21] <sethk> Jman8888, sure, any name is fine.  just do a   mkdir of it
[12:21] <FRET> bina, are you using the ati-kernel-module?
[12:22] <bean-oh> rm ~/.gnome*       and rm ~/.gconf   but again you'll lose any gnome-app settings.  But the next login, you shuld get the default gnome desktop
[12:22] <JoeG> what is the X update?
[12:22] <uwo> bean-oh tnx - i messed it up because i wanted to set it up different anyway
[12:22] <mytruehero> help! I have no sound :(
[12:22] <dragonfyre13> OK guys, I'm back after nearly a week of my cable internet being down. Unfortunately, I have an issue.
[12:22] <nickd2> It is still hanging on setting up ubuntu-minimal. I have tried different ram and a different install hard drive. ANy suggestions? THis is on a amd64 nforce3 mboard.
[12:23] <bina> FRET: I believe the tutorials got me isntalling linux-restricted-modules... and xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:23] <bean-oh> uwo, np
[12:23] <Jman8888> sethk: Ok i dint get any errors this time. So is it mounted. When i cd to it and ls i see nothing...
[12:23] <sethk> Jman8888, you should see a lost+found directory
[12:23] <uwo> bean-oh one thing though - cannot remove .gnome is a directory
[12:23] <kling0n_> problem: all my menus have disappeared from gnome
[12:23] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, K8 right?
[12:23] <sethk> Jman8888, when you are in it, do     df -h .    see if it shows the expected amount of space
[12:23] <kling0n_> any suggestions?
[12:23] <lupine_85> it's ok, I've found them :)
[12:23] <kling0n_> note: i upgraded to edgy
[12:23] <bean-oh> oh, sorry uwo, both commands should be rm -rf
[12:23] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, me too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[12:24] <FRET> bina, yes
[12:24] <uwo> beanh-oh tnx.
[12:24] <lupine_85> ah, I got them from archive.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <FRET> bina, have you edited your xorg.conf after that?
[12:24] <dragonfyre13> I can't use the internet for more than a few minutes before it dies out on me. Pings don't work, sites don't work, nothing. However, I think it is a problem with my DNS, because I have no issue with bittorrent
[12:24] <lupine_85> it's a mess in there
[12:24] <JoseStefan> !info http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[12:24] <ubotu> Package httppackages.ubuntu.comdapperdevellinux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[12:24] <JoseStefan> oops
[12:24] <GUIPEnguin_> why every package I select in add/remove programs, says the package is not avalible for my arch? Im using an intel x68?  such as 'package' is not avalible in any software channel'  I read normally this is to do that apt cant get to the internet....but.... I can do  sudo aptitude  update and it contacts the internet fine... wth is up with this?
[12:24] <JoseStefan> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[12:24] <ubotu> Package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[12:24] <JoseStefan> lol, it does
[12:24] <JoeG> can someone tell me what the x update is.
[12:24] <dragonfyre13> If I restart the network interfaces (/etc/init.d/networking restart) it works again, for a few minutes.
[12:25] <Jman8888> sethk: did you get the pm?
[12:25] <bean-oh> dragonfyre13, after it dies, can you still ping something by IP?
[12:25] <bina> FRET: yeah i did aticonfig --initial and made sure all the Driver bits in the Device sections were fglrx
[12:25] <dragonfyre13> Not sure, let me see.
[12:25] <nickd2> is there a different version of the dapper install I can use? 6.06.1 is broken for me
[12:25] <dragonfyre13> well, I have to wait for it to die, but let me at least grab the IP of google.
[12:25] <mytruehero> any suggestions on how to get my sound working? I'm getting no sound at all - no startup sound, mp3s, avis, youtube videos, nothing
[12:25] <bina> FRET: the position of the image on the screen shifted horizontally slightly too so I think it did so something.
[12:25] <Flannel> nickd2: what's broken?  it won't install?
[12:25] <sethk> Jman8888, responded to pm
[12:26] <FRET> bina, have you restarted X?
[12:26] <bina> FRET: many times, rebooted the whole PC too
[12:26] <nickd2> Flannel: it hangs at seeting up ubuntu-minimal on both server and alternate install cds
[12:27] <dragonfyre13> in the mean time, is there a way to hardwire the IP of your DNS server into ubuntu? I used networking in the admin menu, but it didn't work. every time it dies, it just resets it to something else.
[12:27] <FRET> bina, ok...and then you did what to check if it works?
[12:27] <Flannel> nickd2: ah.  Ok, so its not ubuntu-minimal (that just happens to be where it has problems), How did you burn it?  what speed?
[12:27] <bean-oh> dragonfyre13, /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: ok, i'll try that.
[12:27] <nickd2> Flannel: this has been a horrible day. I have burned over 10 diff copies of both alternate and server. THe md5 iso checks out, burned at 2x on different media types
[12:28] <bina> FRET: first I checked fglrxinfo for what Libraries it was using (said all Mesa, think it should be all ATI), then I checked glxinfo to see whether the 'Direct Rendering' line said yes (it said no)
[12:28] <nightattack> hello, when I try to unzip one of my files (when I open the .zip file) I keep getting this error: http://paste.uni.cc/9726 , can anyone help please ^^
[12:28] <nickd2> nickd2: cd also checks out when I verify it on the boot menu
[12:28] <Flannel> nickd2: Then it's either your burner, or the reader.
[12:29] <nickd2> Flannel: even if the cd passes the check in the boot menu
[12:29] <FRET> bina, and you have no problems when starting X?
[12:29] <Flannel> nickd2: if the CD passes the check, it's probably not the burner, it must be the reader
[12:30] <bina> FRET: no,  none that I'm aware of at least
[12:30] <nickd2> Flannel: hate to say it but I have tried 2 diff readers. anything else it could be?
[12:30] <bina> FRET: I have the ATI Drivers off their site now, you think its worth me trying them out?  Could be a bug in the dapper package maybe?
[12:30] <FRET> bina, that's strange...
[12:30] <Noah0504> What kernel should I run if I have an AMD Sempron 3000+?
[12:30] <isofunk> ?
[12:30] <nickd2> Flannel: btw thanks for helping. I am really going crazy with this and have a deadline
[12:30] <Flannel> Noah0504: k7
[12:31] <FRET> bina, I'm using the dapper ones, and they work beautifully
[12:31] <Noah0504> Flannel: I thought so.  Will I notice any real difference?
[12:31] <nightattack> hello, when I try to unzip one of my files (when I open the .zip file) I keep getting this error: http://paste.uni.cc/9726 , can anyone help please ^^
[12:31] <Jman8888> I heard there was a Kde-Gnome like enviroment that uses less ram than gnome or kde. What is it? I wanna see what it looks like.
[12:31] <XVampireX> XFCE
[12:31] <Flannel> nickd2: nope, no idea.  If youre installing a GUI-less, try 6.06, .1 only fixes installer problems for the liveCD installer.  But, again, I don't know what else could be the problem, if youre burning it that slow, and swapping out hardware
[12:31] <XVampireX> !xfce
[12:31] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <FRET> bina, maybe check again if all necessary drivers and modules are installed, and have a look at xorg.conf again
[12:32] <FRET> maybe dmesg gives some ihnt
[12:32] <FRET> hint
[12:32] <GUIPEnguin_> can someone please help me? add/remove programs,  it doesn't seem to be able to connect to the internet... "You need a working internet connection to continue"    but I can ping fine, and browse the internet with firefox....THIS is why I am getting "package is not avalible for your arch"  how do I fix this?
[12:32] <bina> FRET: oh lots of errors in dmesg just seen
[12:32] <XVampireX> someone help nightattack :P
[12:32] <Bonez56_> wootage!
[12:32] <Aphex_Twin> can source RPM files be installed automatically?
[12:32] <Aphex_Twin> SRPMs
[12:33] <JoseStefan> Flannel, Noah0504 is that semprom a 32bit or 64bit?
[12:33] <Blissex> GUIPEnguin_: try to say in a terminal window as 'root' this line: 'apt-get update'
[12:33] <fishy> How can I get sound to play in Flash in the browser?
[12:33] <Noah0504> JoseStefan: 32bit.  However, I think Ubuntu tries to tell me it's a 64bit.
[12:33] <bina> FRET: dmesg | grep fglrx puts 8 [17181093.744000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 7354 using kernel context 0, all different process numbers
[12:33] <erUSUL> nightattack: either the zip file is corrupt or is one of many multipart zip files
[12:33] <XVampireX> [01:28]  <nightattack> hello, when I try to unzip one of my files (when I open the .zip file) I keep getting this error: http://paste.uni.cc/9726 , can anyone help please ^^
[12:33] <JoseStefan> Flannel, Noah0504: i thought 686 kernel was better. K7 being for durons and the early athlons
[12:33] <Blissex> fishy: not easy... You need OSS compatibility and perhaps a wrapper.
[12:33] <GUIPEnguin_> Blissex: apt-get update works...
[12:34] <GUIPEnguin_> but I cant do anything in add/remote programs
[12:34] <FRET> bina, maybe you can google for that...I cannot help you, sorry.
[12:34] <bluefox83> ok, i tried to startx and it had an error opening up the SecurityPolicty thing in /etc/X11/xserver
[12:34] <XVampireX> erUSUL: None of them
[12:34] <bluefox83> how do i fix that?
[12:34] <Jman8888> How do i install xubuntu(On top of gnome so i can use whatever i choose too when logging in.) ? Apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <Noah0504> JoseStefan: Well, I'm not sure now.  Maybe Flannel has something else to say about it.
[12:34] <XVampireX> erUSUL: I downloaded the same file and it works here
[12:34] <Blissex> GUIPEnguin_: if 'apt-get update' works it is not an internet problem etc.
[12:34] <Bonez56_> Jman8888: yes
[12:34] <Aphex_Twin> can source RMPs (.src.rpm) be installed automatically?
[12:34] <bina> FRET: ok, well thanks.  Hopefully I'll get it sorted soon, then I can play with compiz :)
[12:34] <Blissex> Aphex_Twin: no, incompatible.
[12:35] <dr_> Anybody know how to recreate mtab file? It went 0 byte when xorg messed up and now I can't mount dvd.
[12:35] <FRET> bina, you're welcome....
[12:35] <JoseStefan> Flannel, Noah0504: this is the Description: Linux kernel image on AMD K7. This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available for AMD Duron/Athlon.
[12:35] <GUIPEnguin_> Blissex: Synaptic says  "you need a working internet connection"    this makes no sense.
[12:35] <bluefox83> any ideas?
[12:35] <nickd2> is there any sort of minimal netinstall for ubuntu like there is for debian?
[12:35] <mytruehero> I'm having a problem - my sound is not working at all. Can anyone help me?
[12:35] <bluefox83> hello?
[12:35] <bbrazil> Aphex_Twin: see alien, use at your own risk
[12:35] <Noah0504> JoseStefan: So, do you think the i686 kernel would be a better choice?
[12:36] <JoseStefan> Flannel, Noah0504: I would go for the 686 kernel, your semprom should have both SSE1 and SSE2
[12:36] <Noah0504> JoseStefan: Okay, thanks.
[12:37] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: OK, it died again. I'm still connected to IRC, and I can ping by ip, but not by host name
[12:37] <HeXiOn> hello
[12:37] <w30> where can I get Ubuntu dvd watching code, css or whatever it is?
[12:37] <nickd2> what exactly does ubuntu-minimal do? the installer simply stops there in server, alternate, and desktop installations
[12:38] <JoseStefan> Flannel, Noah0504: The K7 is for Athlons which dont support SSE, aka the Durons and early Athlons (non XP)
[12:38] <bean-oh> is your nameserver correct and up?
[12:38] <HeXiOn> I have an annoying problem... I set up my wireless conection and conect to the internet, but each time I reboot, I have no internet and have to setup again the connection... any suggestions?
[12:38] <dragonfyre13> I'm correcting it now. Lets see if it dies on me again in a few minutes.
[12:39] <bluefox83> anyone familiar with X11 securitypolicy?
[12:39] <erUSUL> !dvd > w30
[12:39] <mytruehero> I'm having a problem - my sound is not working at all. Can anyone help me?
[12:39] <John[1] > Anyone know when the next iso image for dapper or the desktop will be on the ubuntu webpage for downlaod?
[12:39] <kraut> hi
[12:40] <kraut> i have a huge problem with my system. actually i think there is no other way to reinstall, but perhaps anybody could help:
[12:40] <lordhelmet> does anybody know if pam_group.so is broken right now?
[12:40] <kraut> i made a fullbackup of my system via rsync to another workstation in it's user account
[12:40] <g333k_work> HI. is it possible that many users autologin to a PC without entering a user namer and a password? I'm using gdm
[12:40] <nightattack> hello, when I try to unzip one of my files (when I open the .zip file) I keep getting this error: http://paste.uni.cc/9726 , can anyone help please ^^
[12:40] <kraut> now i want to copy them back, but all permissions are false
[12:40] <kraut> has anybody got an idea to get correct permissions in the hole system back again?
[12:41] <HeXiOn> I have an annoying problem... I set up my wireless conection and conect to the internet, but each time I reboot, I have no internet and have to setup again the connection... what can I do to have internet when I boot?
[12:41] <kling0n> Any suggestions for menu items flickering (badly) ?
[12:41] <w30> !dvd
[12:41] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:41] <lordhelmet> kraut: i don't think that's possible. you probably needed the -p arguement for rsync or whatever the preserve permissions was
[12:41] <ElectricS> Is there an irc channel for PPC support? or is this the place to be.?
[12:41] <lordhelmet> you could move individual files and set permission as you go for certain things, but not an entire rsync
[12:41] <kraut> lordhelmet: i know, it was stupid. but is there anyway to "repair" it?
[12:41] <kraut> lordhelmet: i think it's senseless :/
[12:42] <lordhelmet> kraut: prob not...you might be SOL
[12:42] <kraut> lordhelmet: SOL?
[12:42] <modplug_> how do i get rid of the pc speaker sound everytime i press tab x2 in terminal?
[12:42] <islan> how do you turn off ipv6 again?
[12:42] <erUSUL> !ipv6
[12:42] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:43] <lordhelmet> kraut: nm :)....i think once you change permissions (especially in a situation like that) you can't really 'undo'
[12:43] <kraut> lordhelmet: no way, dude
[12:43] <kraut> all data are in hell
[12:43] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: OK, it happened again. Lets see if it reset my resolv.conf
[12:43] <nate_d> mogplug_: Edit->Current Profile -> General -> Uncheck terminal bell
[12:43] <dragonfyre13> Yup.
[12:43] <bean-oh> dragonfyre13, ok
[12:43] <jvai> hey peepz
[12:44] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: can I write protect that, so that it can't screw with it?
[12:44] <lordhelmet> kraut: you backed up the entire system (like all of / ) but how much are you taking back?
[12:44] <bean-oh> dragonfyre13, shouldn't have to
[12:44] <kling0n> how do I swet
[12:44] <kling0n> mischat
[12:44] <bluefox83> ok...why the hell don't i have a security policy file in /etc/X11 ?
[12:44] <dragonfyre13> It resets it all the time. When it does, I can't connect any more.
[12:45] <kraut> lordhelmet: i have the / completly backuped, but all data belongs to uid and gid 1001
[12:45] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i get my firewire card working in dapper?
[12:45] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: Yup, that's the issue. I just restarted my network service, and it stuck the correct IP for the DNS server into the file again.
[12:45] <HeXiOn> I have an annoying problem... I set up my wireless conection and conect to the internet, but each time I reboot, I have no internet and have to setup again the connection... what can I do to have internet when I boot?
[12:45] <kraut> lordhelmet: dude, i reinstall, resync my home and copy some needed files by hand to /etc back
[12:46] <kraut> lordhelmet: and use my package list to reinstall my own pacakges
[12:46] <bean-oh> dragonfyre13, cool
[12:46] <lordhelmet> kraut: yeah that would be the way to do things IMHO
[12:46] <mytruehero> I'm having a problem - my sound is not working at all. Can anyone help me?
[12:46] <atm0sph> would anyone know why my resolution is set to 1024x768 even though the only resolution listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 1152x864?
[12:46] <dragonfyre13> bean-oh: problem is, it keeps changing randomly. I need it to stop chainging.
[12:47] <mcphail> atm0sph: GNOME has its pwn resolution options
[12:47] <bean-oh> not sure, anyone know why a DNS would float like that?
[12:47] <kraut> lordhelmet: do you know where i could find my hole packages installed?
[12:47] <Cirvin_Fox> it seems as if ubuntu doesnt even see my firewire card
[12:47] <lordhelmet> apt-show-versions shows it
[12:47] <HymnToLife> kraut, dpkg -l
[12:47] <lordhelmet> apt-get install apt-show-versions
[12:47] <atm0sph> mcphail, I'm using xgl and compiz on top of gnome - would that make a difference?
[12:47] <kraut> HymnToLife: i have no system running
[12:47] <nate_d> HeXiOn, do you have to modprobe every time you reboot?
[12:47] <modplug_> why does the resolution on my screen only go up to 1024 when it can handle resolutions up to 1280 x 1024?
[12:47] <kraut> HymnToLife: only the data
[12:47] <dragonfyre13> it's not the dns, it's the resolv.conf file's IP. the DNS IP that I need to be connecting to stays the same.
[12:48] <atm0sph> mcphail, you're talkign the dropdown menu's and what not?
[12:48] <dr|zed> http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1635&rss
[12:48] <mcphail> atm0sph: i don't think so. I think the settings are buried under the gconf-editor tree
[12:48] <atm0sph> oh ok
[12:48] <ghostdog> I am having an issue mounting a hard drive with misc stuff (videos, music) on a newly compiled kernel 2.6.17 but it mounts fine with the latest ubuntu kernel, where should I look??
[12:48] <lordhelmet> apt-show-versions shows it in a nice format you can feed through sed or perl to make one big string, then apt-get the entire thing
[12:48] <unio> (sorry: switched from irssi to xchat)
[12:48] <w30> what's decss?
[12:49] <Cirvin_Fox> how do i install my firewire card
[12:50] <HeXiOn> nate_d: I have all well... it worked 5 days ago.. but now when I reboot I have no connection
[12:50] <unio> how do i configure ubuntu to let me print?
[12:50] <FRET> ghostdog, what's the error?
[12:50] <FRET> ghostdog, and what fileformat is the hard drive?
[12:50] <atm0sph> mcphail, I'm not seeing anything here for resolution in gconf-editor.,.
[12:51] <ghostdog> I just can't mount the hard drive, it says device busy
[12:51] <HeXiOn> nate_d: I think network-admin doesn't remember changes :(
[12:51] <aurax> hello dudes
[12:51] <ghostdog> If I boot back to the old kernel it worls
[12:51] <erUSUL> unio: System>Admin>Printers
[12:51] <ghostdog> works
[12:51] <unio> thank you, erUSUL
[12:51] <aurax> hello, there is a web bt+edonkey client i forgot the name, anyone remembers what its called?
[12:51] <FRET> ghostdog, what file system does this drive have?
[12:51] <Tsukaggin> Hey, I just lost sound on my system, after leaving it sitting for a while. The speakers are brand new, and my soundcard's built in to my MoBo. Has this happened to any one else before?
[12:51] <erUSUL> aurax: mldonkey
[12:51] <ghostdog> FRET, ext3
[12:52] <directhex> is there some ubuntuese equivalent to snapshot.debian.net ?
[12:52] <aurax> mldonkey ok ill go check thx erUSUL
[12:52] <ghostdog> FRET, same as the root system
[12:52] <nate_d> HeXiOn: is that what you do every time you reboot? Change network-admin?
[12:52] <FRET> ghostdog, ok....
[12:52] <Clinton__> What's a good usb wireless that will work well with Dapper?
[12:52] <nate_d> HeXiOn: in order to get it working again?
[12:52] <HeXiOn> nate_d: yes, exactly that
[12:52] <FRET> ghostdog, does dmesg give more info?
[12:52] <Flannel> directhex: you mean a web browsable repository? or more of the version control aspect?
[12:52] <HeXiOn> nate_d: I have to re-select my network, save.. and I have internet again
[12:53] <directhex> Flannel, i need a version of a package more recent than dapper, but older than currently in edgy
[12:53] <bean-oh> HeXiOn, you might want to look into the NetworkManager package
[12:53] <nate_d> HeXiOn: reselect your default gateway device?
[12:53] <mng^> Hi, i mhaving some problem. When i open any openOffice application im not able to read any menu. every letter is a square.
[12:53] <Flannel> directhex: nope, you'll need to build your own
[12:53] <islan> !tell ipv6
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell ipv6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <HeXiOn> nate_d: I double-click in wlan0 and select my network...
[12:54] <directhex> Flannel, right. so where do i find older source packages?
[12:54] <HeXiOn> nate_d: I don't see any "default" box
[12:54] <HeXiOn> bean-oh: do you reffer on dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:54] <Flannel> directhex: older source packages?  From the project
[12:54] <ghostdog> FRET, no errors
[12:55] <Tsukaggin> Hello? Can any one help me with my sound problems?
[12:55] <jvai> snap, the "chronicles of riddick" dvd just locked x, i had to do a hard shutdown... but it's playin now
[12:55] <ax> what is the app that ubuntu users use to set up printing?
[12:55] <ax> I am not using gnome so i cannot go "admin->..blah"
[12:55] <Clinton__> What's a good usb wireless that will work well with Dapper?
[12:56] <ScatterBrain> Say I have a system that is using reiserfs for everything except for /boot.  Could I boot off of a live CD, rsync the entire contents of the drive, format each of the partitions with XFS, rsync them back, change fstab and expect a bootable/usable system when I'm done?
[12:56] <Phantom> hi.  i need to compile a program from source, but the programs needed to compile (gcc, make, etc.) aern't installed.  what package should i install to get all of these?
[12:56] <Clinton__> Phantom: build-essentials
[12:56] <Flannel> directhex: depending on the package, you could get the source to build it from debian
[12:56] <directhex> Flannel, anything other than an orig.tar.gz/digg/gz/dsc trio will be an upstream tarball, not a source package. i don't want to replace my libc and half of gnome with edgy versions to compile a package, when a slightly older version with more sane dependancies would do the job
[12:57] <FRET> ghostdog, dont know...maybe it's a bug
[12:57] <directhex> an old *debian* snapshot, that might work...
[12:57] <Flannel> directhex: it'd have to be source though
[12:57] <nate_d> My X session seems to log me out randomly.  I will come home from work and my system will be at the login screen.  I know it's not rebooting because "uptime" says 5 days.  Any ideas on why this is happening?
[12:58] <kitche> nate_d: could be that X is setup to log out on a timeout
[12:58] <nate_d> kitche: would that be in the gdm setup?
[12:59] <kitche> nate_d: it probably is
[01:00] <MaaSTaaR> ?
[01:00] <ghostdog> FRET, thank I will keep searching, could be a change in user permissions on fstab
[01:01] <`richiefrich`> new nvidia drivers !!
[01:01] <jvai> hey does dapper support hd-dvd playback as stand?
[01:01] <`richiefrich`> for X7.1
[01:02] <topobroto> anybody uses ubuntu?
[01:03] <kitche> toponroto: that's a dumb question to ask
[01:03] <disasm> i'm trying to make a custom install cd, all i've found on google is how to make a custom live cd (and the alternate dapper iso doesn't have casper/)
[01:04] <lophyte> disasm: its the same thing for dapper...
[01:04] <GUIPEnguin_> disasm: what is that url? im looking for something similar
[01:04] <Blinker> !x
[01:04] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:04] <lophyte> disasm: the dapper installer essentially just copies all the files from the live cd to the hard drive
[01:04] <ugarit> I'm trying to install qt3dev and I'm getting this error: qt3-apps-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt-dev but it is not going to be installed and then when I attempt to install libqt3-mt-dev I get: libqt3-mt-dev:
[01:04] <ugarit>   Depends: libqt3-mt (=3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[01:04] <disasm> http://wiki.oss-watch.ac.uk/UbuntuDapper/Remaster
[01:05] <nachtfalke> hello
[01:05] <disasm> lophyte: thats the normal dapper install, I was trying to do one with the alternate (with the oem option)
[01:05] <lophyte> disasm: ah.. with an alternate CD its different
[01:05] <nachtfalke> my head is spinning, i need some help
[01:05] <loiic> Hello
[01:06] <lophyte> disasm: look for information on how to remaster the breezy CD... the dapper alternate works the same way
[01:06] <BlueEagle> ugarit: Not messing with edgy repos are you?
[01:06] <disasm> ok
[01:06] <ugarit> BlueEagle: not sure!  how do I check that?
[01:06] <BlueEagle> ugarit: If you don't know that you are then you probably are not. :)
[01:06] <nachtfalke> i installed ubuntu server, all is good, but i can't see the bottome two lines of code...
[01:06] <lophyte> disasm: there's a couple of good tutorials on the ubuntu wiki for remastering a breezy cd
[01:07] <nachtfalke> i'm on an lcd
[01:07] <ugarit> actually not.  these are official ubuntu packages
[01:07] <nachtfalke> too
[01:07] <BlueEagle> ugarit: You can attempt to run dist-upgrade after running an update but it looks awfully like a broken dependency on libqt3-mt-dev
[01:08] <lophyte> disasm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization <-- for the 6.06 Alternate CD
[01:08] <ugarit> BlueEagle: ouch!  that means I can't compile qt dependent apps :-(
[01:08] <BlueEagle> ugarit: Not sure how to fix it. If you force it then it might work but then again you may break your ubuntu.
[01:08] <loiic> I am setting up a network of 10 to 20 PCs and I'd like to have a centralized user base and centralised file system on a file server. What would you recommend ? NFS? I also wonder how it would go with the laptops
[01:08] <BlueEagle> ugarit: Have you tried looking at !bugs?
[01:08] <BlueEagle> !bugs
[01:08] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <BlueEagle> ugarit: I'd search for the offending package to see if it was a known issue.
[01:09] <ugarit> good idea
[01:09] <Blinker> what does x server define as a screen?
[01:09] <Flannel> Blinker: you getting "no screens found"?
[01:09] <Blinker> yeah
[01:09] <Flannel> !tell Blinker about xorgbug
[01:09] <BlueEagle> blinker: a screen is a combination of a monitor and a graphics card.
[01:09] <disasm> lophyte: thanks!
[01:10] <lophyte> disasm: no prob :)
[01:10] <BlueEagle> People still getting the bugged xorg from repos? How long does it take to propagate?
[01:10] <disasm> next problem, using oem-config, when user is created, password doesn't work for created user, have had problems on 4 installs so far
[01:10] <msoul> okie, I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <lophyte> disasm: not sure.. I've never used oem-config
[01:11] <msoul> how can I remove xubuntu-desktop?
[01:11] <BlueEagle> disasm: after creating users define their passwords with: sudo passwd username
[01:11] <disasm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecycleOldHardware - basically I was following this url's instructions
[01:11] <BlueEagle> disasm: The default user on oem installs is oem (password is defined during setup afaik)
[01:11] <mcphail> BlueEagle: the problem is, if you updated a couple of days ago and haven't updated since, X will bite you after a reboot
[01:12] <disasm> BlueEagle: oem user is deleted after oem-config-prepare is ran
[01:12] <BlueEagle> mcphail: That's a problem. But doesn't updates to X prompt for a reboot or is that only done by kernel updates?
[01:12] <disasm> BlueEagle: then it reboots and brings up the create user setup stuff
[01:12] <msoul> I did sudo apt-get remove but nothing happened
[01:12] <Blinker> Flannel: and if that fix doesn't work?
[01:12] <BlueEagle> disasm: Oh, well I've never done a oem install. :)
[01:12] <disasm> BlueEagle: ok
[01:13] <BlueEagle> msoul: what did you remove?
[01:13] <mcphail> BlueEagle: x updates do not prompt for a reboot
[01:13] <BlueEagle> mcphail: ok, thanks.
[01:13] <mcphail> BlueEagle: x updates do not even require a reboot
[01:13] <BlueEagle> mcphail: I know, they just need a restart of X.
[01:14] <msoul> BlueEagle: I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:14] <msoul> I just want to know how can I remove it
[01:14] <Kumo> hi everybody, I got a question, is it possible to port programs made on Visual Basic to Linux?
[01:14] <kitche> msoul:it's apt-get uninstall xubuntu-desktop or it could be remove instead of uninstall
[01:15] <BlueEagle> msoul: Well if you do remove xubuntu-desktop you only remove the viritual package, not the dependencies. Xubuntu-desktop is a viritual package who has really only got all files needed for a xubuntu desktop as dependencies.
[01:15] <mcphail> Kumo: i don't think so (unless they run under wine???)
[01:15] <ubuntu_>  /exit
[01:15] <nachtfalke> uhg
[01:15] <msoul> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[01:15] <BlueEagle> msoul: however unless you are running really low on disk space there's really no reason to remove it. (ie. it doesn't use resources just by sitting on the drive)
[01:16] <Flannel> msoul: remove instead of uninstall, but it won't remove anything except the meta package, you need to use deborphan for that
[01:16] <grimboy> Kumo, Is this visual basic.net?
[01:16] <erUSUL> Kumo: porting is always possible, you may need to rewrite 90% of your app XD but still possible. For an advanced Basic IDE check out gambas
[01:16] <erUSUL> msoul: remove
[01:16] <msoul> Flannel: what exactly should I do?
[01:17] <msoul> erUSUL: I did that already
[01:17] <zingo^> i followed the guide. How To install 32 bit Firefox with flash etc because im using amd x64. Anyway, when i put the cursor over File, Edit or view firefox crashes....
[01:17] <msoul> BlueEagle: yeah I noticed
[01:17] <zingo^> I tried to reinstall the package but it wont help
[01:17] <zingo^> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 theres the link
[01:17] <msoul> deporphan xubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <Kumo> grimboy: I don't know, the company where my brother works is planning to move to Ubuntu but the guy that is planning to do it doesn't know this
[01:18] <Psykus> can anyone help me set up ubuntu as a samba host? it seems like no matter what I do, the client (in this case xbox media center) can not access it
[01:18] <Psykus> going to browse workgroups on XBMC says "workgroup not found", even though I have both ubuntu and XBMC set to use "WORKGROUP" as the workgroup name
[01:18] <shriphani> happy b'day to linux
[01:18] <Kumo> erUSUL: well if they want to save money in licenses I think they will do something like that
[01:19] <Psykus> and trying to access \\ubuntu (ubuntu is the hostname of my ubuntu machine) doesn't work either
[01:19] <ubuntu_> why did they take xcaht out of dapper ?
[01:19] <atroWork> How can I run a php script constantly in the background, preferably startable/stoppable by something like inet.d. On windows I used srvany to make it a windows service, and I want to do something similar in ubuntu.
[01:20] <shriphani> ubuntu_, yo can apt it
[01:20] <misieq> anyone know by chance what's the name of the program seen at http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/1687/screenshotoct059na.png in lower right?
[01:20] <msoul> there is no manual entry for deborphan
[01:20] <ubuntu_> shriphani i know that but why did the=y take it out ?
[01:20] <msoul> Flannel how can I do so?
[01:20] <shriphani> a very small archive
[01:20] <shriphani> god knows
[01:21] <bluefox83> ok, how do you setup xorg.conf to use a tv as a second monitor? gotta do it via terminal though >.>
[01:21] <ubuntu_> shriphani if i would have had to install xchat to get hear i would have never been abel to learn much
[01:21] <Grok_> i took up the offer of having the ubuntu cd's shipped to me. i assumed (yes i know that's a bad word) that they'd send each of the flavors, ubuntu, kubuntu, server edition, edubuntu and maybe an extra copy or xubuntu or something when i ordered the 5 cd's...it looks like i got five copies of just ubuntu though. is this a mistake on my part (for assuming i'd get diff flavors) or theirs?
[01:22] <mcphail> misieq: judging by the terminal text, i'd suggest "conky"
[01:22] <kads> firefox keeps freezing up on me
[01:22] <bbrazil> Grok_: on your part, but you can install one and switch between them
[01:22] <bluefox83> who here has used a tv as a second monitor?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> grok_: The fault is on your part. :)
[01:22] <shriphani> Grok_, umm ubuntu ships   just the same kind at a time
[01:22] <Psykus> anyone familiar with setting up ubuntu/linux as a samba host?
[01:22] <chamo> !xgl
[01:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:22] <BlueEagle> grok_: However you can install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop after installing ubuntu and run them instead.
[01:23] <Grok_> bbrazil, yes i know that i have kubuntu desktop installed on this box.
[01:23] <ubuntu_> grok_ well you can have it seperated in to x86 ppc and such but i dont think you can get x, k and gnome unless you seperate the orders
[01:23] <Kumo> mcphail: I'll suggest wine at least for the first weeks but I think they want to run native applications
[01:23] <mcphail> Kumo: i have no idea how well wine would work.
[01:24] <Grok_> thanks all for the answers. much appreciated. well extra copies for my coworkers tomorrow. i already got one boss to switch all of his personal computers to ubuntu and i'm installing it for another boss on an old "test" laptop as we speak. thanks again all
[01:25] <mcphail> Kumo: i suppose if it is a VB.NET program, the bytecode might run under mono. Again, no idea how well this would work.
[01:25] <ubuntu_> grok_ dont forget ununtu CE
[01:25] <ubuntu_> grok_ ubuntu CE
[01:26] <Intreez|dvx> bonsoir
[01:26] <shriphani> hey guys wasnt linux released today ??
[01:26] <Kumo> mcphail: I'm gonna look for more information, maybe they use VB.Net and maybe it do it well under mono, thanks for your help
[01:26] <Grok_> ubuntu_, didn't know about that flavor. i'll have to check it out. i'm gonna have a go at straight ubuntu install and if it bogs down too much maybe xubuntu. (as i remember xfce seemed to not need much in the way of resources.) it's a pII with 128mb ram
[01:27] <ubuntu_> grok_ ubuntu ce = ubuntu christian edition
[01:27] <shriphani> ouch lol
[01:27] <ubuntu_> grok_ you can get it at www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com
[01:27] <Grok_> ubuntu_, ha! i was thinking it was an embedded type edition
[01:28] <jvai> lolo
[01:28] <ubuntu_> grok_ it adds gnomesword and some web filtering software
[01:29] <lukaswayne9> Hey, I want to enable quin's xgl repo, but is there any way to revert the changes made once the upgrade is complete?
[01:29] <internat> ok i have a wierd error whenever i open kaffeine and then try to open my dvb card it logs me out and takes me back to the kubuntu login screen
[01:29] <internat> any ideas?
[01:30] <bluefox83> my guess is ya broke something o.o
[01:30] <internat> such as?
[01:30] <BlueEagle> internat: Think you'll have better luck in #kubuntu with that one tbh.
[01:30] <bluefox83> how the heck shoudl i know?
[01:30] <bluefox83> *should
[01:31] <Corporal_Dirge> Damnit! I hate it when people put pw on rar files.
[01:31] <BlueEagle> internat: It does sound like a serious design flaw somwhere if a user application is able to crash the X server tho.
[01:31] <BlueEagle> !offtopic
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[01:32] <bluefox83> !b0rked
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b0rked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <bluefox83> oh come on...
[01:32] <jvai> uall r too bleedin edge in here....
[01:32] <bluefox83> lol...so true
[01:33] <flores> HOLA
[01:34] <janbanan> I'm using a couple of gdesklets. The thing is when I push the "show the desktop" icon on the panel the all disappear and when I push the button again they come back. Is there a way to lock them on the desktop?
[01:34] <AWOSDev> I'm having some WiFi trouble
[01:35] <Blinker> ok, so if someone replied to my question (assuming it was sent) I didn't catch it
[01:35] <Blinker> if the xorg bug fix doesn't work, whats the next step? it mayhave been the latest patch that caused this issue in the first place
[01:35] <flores> PERDN TENGO UNA GRAN DUDA, ESTAN ESCRIBIENDO EN INGLES O PORQUE ME APARECEN SUS COMENTARIOS EN INGLES???
[01:35] <keithg> Quick question, I'm installing something from source.  Where is the normal directory that I would place all my source code?
[01:36] <Blinker> flores: ubuntu-es por espanol
[01:36] <BigMo> This is most likely a very basic question but how do I install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu.
[01:36] <mcphail> keithg: wherever it makes you happy
[01:36] <BigMo> decent documentation would be appreciated
[01:36] <BlueEagle> keithg: I usually put it in ~/downloads/source/
[01:37] <BlueEagle> keithg: but it's really up to personal preference.
[01:37] <internat> http://pastebin.com/775321 <== thats whats in the xorg log when it happens
[01:37] <FRET> BigMo, have a look at the ubuntu wiki
[01:37] <keithg> BlueEagle, OK, that sounds like a good choice, thanks.
[01:37] <BigMo> Thanks fret
[01:37] <BlueEagle> keithg: when you untar the file it will create a subdirectory so you just change to that dir and ./configure and make and sudo make install
[01:38] <DigitalNinja> how do I watch a .avi movie
[01:38] <BlueEagle> keithg: be aware that you will need the build-essential package to compile the source code.
[01:38] <mcphail> keithg: use checkinstall instead of make install
[01:38] <keithg> BlueEagle, Yeah, I have the compiling under control, I just never realized that by keeping the source I could uninstall the package afterwards.
[01:38] <BlueEagle> keithg: Also if there are equivalent packages in the repositories you are urged to using them.
[01:38] <ardchoille> If anyone has any information about how to obtain the Clearlooks Big Pack, please join #ardchoille
[01:38] <mcphail> keithg: if you use checkinstall you can delete the makefile
[01:38] <Blinker> !easyubuntu > DigitalNinja
[01:38] <keithg> mcphail, What is it that checkinstall does?
[01:39] <patrick_> can someone tell me why the media.blutkind.org repo for xgl doesnt work???
[01:39] <mcphail> keithg: it will make a .deb file and install it
[01:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell digitalninja about restricted
[01:39] <mcphail> keithg: you can then remove it with "apt-get remove"
[01:39] <keithg> mcphail, Oh!  That's exactly what I'm needing to do then.  Thanks.
[01:40] <keithg> mcphail, It's only recently I discovered you could uninstall if you kept the source, but that fits what I'm trying to do even better.  :)
[01:40] <mcphail> keithg: it is useful because a lot of programs don't have an "uninstall" rule in the Makefile
[01:40] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys i have an eagle touch Wireless windows Xp Mouse... and it does not work when i plug it in... is there anyway to get it to work?
[01:40] <eigenlambda> how do i configure my synaptics touchpad?
[01:40] <Blinker> eigenlambda: what are youtrying to change?
[01:40] <eigenlambda> can't find a program to do it that isn't kde or command line
[01:40] <DigitalNinja> Blinker: I've used that but maybe I didn't get everything.
[01:40] <eigenlambda>  i would like to turn on horizontal scrolling
[01:40] <eigenlambda> so i can scroll horizontally
[01:40] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys i have an eagle touch Wireless windows Xp Mouse... and it does not work when i plug it in... is there anyway to get it to work?
[01:41] <keithg> mcphail, Man, I have fun discovering this stuff as I'm learning Linux.  Thanks very much.  :)
[01:41] <eigenlambda> like in large pornographs
[01:41] <mcphail> keithg: np
[01:41] <eigenlambda> it is sometimes desirable to be able to scroll horizontally
[01:41] <Blinker> eigenlambda: that should be on by default
[01:41] <eigenlambda> even in large web pages
[01:41] <shriphani> mcphail, is checkinstall available in the repos /
[01:41] <mcphail> shriphani: yes
[01:41] <shriphani> thanks :)
[01:41] <NewtoUbuntu> can any1 here help me get a wireless mouse to work?
[01:41] <yzzir> can someone tell me why the media.blutkind.org repo for xgl doesnt work???
[01:41] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell newtoubuntu about anyone
[01:42] <Don_jr> I have ubuntu installed finally and i"m told that the drivers for the wireless card I have are part of the kernel....how do I install my card so that ubuntu recognizes it?
[01:42] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys i have an eagle touch Wireless windows Xp Mouse... and it does not work when i plug it in... is there anyway to get it to work?
[01:42] <yzzir> NewtoUbuntu: have u tried rebooting with it already plugged in?
[01:42] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: I just edited my soruces.list file. I uncomented everything
[01:42] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Where do you plug in the reciever? Is it an USB device?
[01:42] <Blinker> eigenlambda: go to #blinker a moment, I can help you out
[01:42] <swarm> NewtoUbuntu, please stop repeating your question. Ask once and wait patiently for someone to answer IF they know how to get it to work. Repeating over and over is rude
[01:43] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: Ok.
[01:43] <NewtoUbuntu> i plug it directly in directly to the conputer without using a usb divice
[01:43] <mcphail> swarm: i think someone asked him to repeat
[01:43] <NewtoUbuntu> ok sorry swarm
[01:43] <yzzir> NewtoUbuntu: also if its a usb device plug ur reciever directly into your computer and not into a usb hub
[01:43] <yawn9> i'm back! :D lots of progress on the wireless networking. i got the firmware ripped/copied and i have wpa_supplicant working now. the only thing is, how do i actually get access to my network after that? i tried editing the two confs that the wpa howto says, but /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant doesn't exist
[01:43] <AWOSDev> I have Ubuntu Dapper Drake LTS.  I am having a problem with my wireless card.  Ubuntu detects that there is a WiFi card, but it will not work.
[01:44] <BlueEagle> swarm: imo that wasn't a repeat it was an elaboration just as !anyone asked him to.
[01:44] <Don_jr> Is prism_85 a wlan driver?
[01:44] <AWOSDev> It is listed in iwconfig, but not in ifconfig (very weird I know), so when I go to iwconfig it, it says "no such device"
[01:44] <yzzir> AWOSDev: are u trying to connect to an unsecure network?
[01:44] <swarm> BlueEagle, that's fine - I have been joined to this channel for 6 minutes today, and the same sentence was posted 3 times in 6 minutes. :)
[01:44] <NewtoUbuntu> Blueeagle and yzzir im nto using a usb device im pluggin it directly into the comp
[01:44] <AWOSDev> yzzir: No, connecting to my own WEP router.
[01:45] <jjholt> ubuntu is my new distro favorite distro reconized all my hardware in my notebook right away
[01:45] <AWOSDev> Ubuntu is my new favorite too
[01:45] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Which port in the computer are you plugging it into? PS2? USB? PCI?
[01:45] <AWOSDev> So easy to use and configure
[01:45] <AWOSDev> Except the wireless :(
[01:45] <Greatmetal> yo
[01:45] <Greatmetal> hello
[01:45] <Don_jr> I had my wireless card in durring install, should I remove it and reboot, then put it in and reboot and see if it recognizes it?
[01:45] <yzzir> AWOSDev: erm mine was so easy lol
[01:46] <Greatmetal> i just installed ubuntu
[01:46] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell don_jr about wireless
[01:46] <NewtoUbuntu> ehh im not quite sure what the technical name would be blueeagle i just plug it in where the old mouse is plugged in
[01:46] <swarm> DomiX, type "lspci"
[01:46] <swarm> er
[01:46] <swarm> Don_jr, type "lspci" and pastebin it for us please
[01:46] <NewtoUbuntu> would the name perhaps be written next to the slot blueegale?
[01:46] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: so that would be a round-ish socket that is in many cases green and it sits next to an identical round-ish socket for the keyboard?
[01:46] <yzzir> AWOSDev: u might need to wait for a more advanced ubuntu user :[
[01:46] <jjholt> it found my wireless and except for it not reporting signal strengh (seems to be a driver issue) works great
[01:47] <NewtoUbuntu> correct blueeagle
[01:47] <Greatmetal> mine works great with linuxant
[01:47] <AWOSDev> I have a Linksys WPC54G ver3 PCMCIA card.
[01:47] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: That's the PS2 port, and if it's the ps2 port then things get a bit harder. :/
[01:47] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: let me read up a bit on that mouse. :)
[01:47] <Greatmetal> :-D
[01:47] <FRET> good night all....
[01:47] <Don_jr> lspci okay, I'm first time ever using nix, so from gnome how do I get to a command line?
[01:48] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: Applications->Utilities->Terminal
[01:48] <yzzir> BlueEagle: usually it detects ps/2 devices on boot up so if he reboots it should work
[01:48] <swarm> Don_jr, applications menu > Accessories > Terminal
[01:48] <yzzir> can someone tell me why the media.blutkind.org repo for xgl doesnt work???
[01:48] <Greatmetal> xgl doest work for me too
[01:49] <swarm> xgl works for me :)
[01:49] <Greatmetal> made me reinstall twice
[01:49] <yzzir> swarm
[01:49] <Don_jr> ok lspci be right wwith ya, and I can't copy and paste it, cause this machine I'm on is XP, my laptop isn't online to copy from till I get wireless running
[01:49] <yzzir> swarm: r u using media.blutkind.org repo?
[01:49] <NewtoUbuntu> im pretty sure i rebooted after plugging it in yzzir.. but im not sure since it was last night and
[01:49] <swarm> Don_jr, well then...
[01:49] <BlueEagle> yzzir: good spot. PS2 isn't hot-pluggable.
[01:49] <AWOSDev> Don_jr, doesn't your laptop have an integrated Ethernet LAN?
[01:49] <NewtoUbuntu> last night.*
[01:49] <swarm> look for one that remotely represents your wireless card
[01:49] <Dravas> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 25 10:42:36 2006 <--- how to fix that6
[01:50] <compotatoj> How do I add a mountpoint to the computer section in the file browser? (I know I did everything right in the fstab already)
[01:50] <AWOSDev> That's how I'm online with my laptop :)
[01:50] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Did you reboot after or have the power off when you plugged in the mouse?
[01:50] <Greatmetal> i need a linuxant keygen
[01:50] <exmethix> hallo @ all
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Dravas: I had the same problem
[01:50] <NewtoUbuntu> i think i rebooted after
[01:50] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: ignore that question I read the line you wrote to yzzir now. )
[01:50] <Dravas> I had to just adjust the clock
[01:50] <NewtoUbuntu> kk
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Dravas: You wait until 10:42:36 Aug 25 :)
[01:50] <AWOSDev> Dravas: or just reboot
[01:50] <Dravas> WTF
[01:50] <NewtoUbuntu> would that make a difference blueeage?
[01:50] <Dravas> aww
[01:50] <NewtoUbuntu> eagle*
[01:50] <Greatmetal> where can i get a java install?
[01:50] <Dravas> I cant reboot
[01:50] <Greatmetal> for linux
[01:51] <AWOSDev> Dravas: Then you wait
[01:51] <NewtoUbuntu> would that make a difference blueeagle
[01:51] <Dravas> ok
[01:51] <kitche> Dravas: you could fix your time with date
[01:51] <NewtoUbuntu> hes gone kitche
[01:51] <kitche> or use ntp to update your clock so it's correct
[01:51] <AWOSDev> kitche: he can't because he can't sudo
[01:51] <AWOSDev> kitche: that's his whole problem :)
[01:51] <Greatmetal> i am updating to 2.6.15_26_386 right now
[01:52] <compotatoj> login as root
[01:52] <NewtoUbuntu> Blueeagle would it make a difference wether i had it off or rebooted after plugging in?
[01:52] <kitche> AWOSDev: well he must of messed his time up then :)
[01:52] <Greatmetal> the sudo i use the most is sudo nautilus
[01:52] <Greatmetal> in ubuntu
[01:52] <AWOSDev> The sudo I use the most is sudo apt-get :)
[01:52] <swarm> sudo aptitude install
[01:52] <Greatmetal> awsome
[01:52] <compotatoj> you should get out of the habit of using sudo nautilus
[01:52] <Greatmetal> i know
[01:53] <mcphail> Greatmetal: sudo nautilus is dangerous
[01:53] <nathe> ATI RS480, when we set the driver to fglrx, the computer hard locks on x startup, won't let us switch to any TTY, etc
[01:53] <Greatmetal> and start using sudo gedit
[01:53] <NewtoUbuntu> i dont suppose there is a specific channel devoted to mouses and keyboard configuration that i could go to for help on this subject is there?
[01:53] <nathe> any ideas?
[01:53] <fierce513> i update not long ago and now my fglrx 3d acceleration is not working ????
[01:53] <nathe> Dapper, AMD64, 64 bit kernel
[01:53] <AWOSDev> nathe: Try to put into GRUB (I can't remember how at the moment) init 3
[01:53] <Don_jr> it says at the bottome  "ethernet controler: marvell technology group ltd 88w8335 [libertas]  802.11b/g wireless (rev 03)
[01:53] <AWOSDev> I think it's init=3
[01:53] <GameOver69> anyone know how to fix the following error so i can install libtunepimp - mp3?
[01:53] <FearMoth> is there any program that I can use to cut clips out of a dvd or quicktime video and save them as mpeg, avi or .mov ?
[01:53] <GameOver69> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libtunepimp3-mp3_0.4.2-3ubuntu2_i                                                              386.deb (--unpack):
[01:53] <GameOver69>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libtunepimp.so.3.0.0', which is also in package l                                                              ibtunepimp3
[01:53] <GameOver69> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[01:53] <Greatmetal> i need to get the frglx for my ati card
[01:53] <GameOver69> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:53] <GameOver69>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libtunepimp3-mp3_0.4.2-3ubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:53] <swarm> Greatmetal,  I find it very insulting from you, that you are just going to attempt to find a Key Generator for the Linuxant drivers. They spend so much time developing the easiest to use, most reliable drivers, and in many cases, the ONLY ones that work! And you just want to steal the work. That is not right. If you don't want to pay for the quality, then use a different driver.
[01:53] <GameOver69> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:54] <nathe> GameOver69: Pastbin for crying out loud
[01:54] <NewtoUbuntu> When i want to use a new mouse should i Turn of the computer first then plug in the mouse and turn on the computer, Or plug the mouse in why the computer is plugged and then reboot it?
[01:54] <nathe> pastebin even
[01:54] <yzzir> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ main repo works for them
[01:54] <swarm> Don_jr, any way to plug the laptop into a network connection?
[01:54] <Greatmetal> i just dont like pay for linux the essence of linux is to be free
[01:54] <Don_jr> nope
[01:54] <nathe> AWOSDev: just out of curiousity, what's the reason?
[01:54] <Don_jr> no physical lan
[01:54] <Greatmetal> open source
[01:55] <Don_jr> I was told that the drivers for it were in the kernel I just can't remember the name of the drivers
[01:55] <AWOSDev> nathe: If you tell it to init 3, then it won't start X
[01:55] <kitche> Greatmetal: linux is to be free as in speech not as in free in free beer
[01:55] <mcphail> Greatmetal: then stick to open source products
[01:55] <Greatmetal> i know
[01:55] <GameOver69> nathe sorry http://pastebin.com/775329
[01:55] <nathe> AWOSDev: oh, no that's not a prob, we can do that
[01:55] <AWOSDev> nathe: init 3 = shell only, init 5 = start up X
[01:55] <Greatmetal> ndiswrapper does not work
[01:55] <swarm> Greatmetal, Then use a free driver. Don't steal other people's work.
[01:55] <nathe> AWOSDev: we've got it back to the ATI driver, not a big deal
[01:55] <mcphail> Greatmetal: then don't claim to be an open source zealot
[01:55] <Don_jr> it was something _85 I just don't remember what it is
[01:55] <Greatmetal> okay dokay
[01:55] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys i have an eagle touch Wireless windows Xp Mouse... and it does not work when i plug it in... is there anyway to get it to work?
[01:56] <Greatmetal> i wish ndiswrapper worked
[01:56] <kitche> Greatmetal: what's the drivers for anyways for what chipset
[01:56] <KillerDemon2> can somebody help me please, ubuntu livecd does only 640x480 on my voodoo3 and now i cant install it
[01:56] <swarm> Greatmetal, Go find a way to make some open source drivers work, as opposed to the heavily-automated and extremely convienient linuxant drivers.
[01:56] <Greatmetal> usr 5416
[01:56] <AWOSDev> Greatmetal, you have WLAN problems too?
[01:56] <internat> stupid quesiton, is there a verify type method to verify all currently installed packages are ok? and that there hasnt been file corruption somewhere?
[01:56] <NewtoUbuntu> im sorry for repeating it but a while ago blueeagle was helping me on this question and since he has now left i was wondering if any1 else might be able to help me on it
[01:56] <bbrazil> internat: deb5sums
[01:56] <Greatmetal> yes
[01:56] <Don_jr> yeah, prism85 is suppose to work for my card it says, how do I load that driver?
[01:56] <bbrazil> internat: see also: tripwire, samhain
[01:57] <Greatmetal> usr 5416 is based on the tcx111 set
[01:57] <AWOSDev> So me, Don_jr, and Greatmetal are all having WLAN problems
[01:57] <Greatmetal> yes
[01:57] <AWOSDev> Dang we need a WLAN guru in here :)
[01:57] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Well in theory it should work out of the box as it is a ps2 mouse/keyboard.
[01:57] <Greatmetal> i am useing ubuntu right now
[01:57] <yzzir> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ main repo works for them
[01:57] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: If it's only the mouse that's not working then try the little silver button on the left side of the mouse.
[01:57] <Greatmetal> through wireless but i am useing linuxant
[01:57] <nalioth> yzzir: please lose the capslock, it doesnt help
[01:58] <yawn9> YES!!!! after all day of fighting i got my wifi connection up and going. now just to see if it survives a reboot
[01:58] <kaot> he heeee, wlan problems RULE.
[01:58] <Don_jr> I have a netgear WG511 and was told that the prism drivers will run it, I just don't know how to load those drivers
[01:58] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: If that doesn't work then (according to the three reviews I've read about that set) throw the piece of junk out and get a better keyboard/mouse. :)
[01:58] <Greatmetal> ndsiwrapper
[01:58] <kaot> Don_jr: ah, you need the firmware for those
[01:58] <KillerDemon2> can somebody help me please, ubuntu livecd does only 640x480 on my voodoo3 and now i cant install it
[01:58] <Corporal_Dirge> yawn9, Is it WPA though? lol
[01:58] <swarm> For the people with WLAN problems, if you want a simple fix and don't mind paying $20, www.linuxant.com has an automated driver installer that works great.
[01:58] <AWOSDev> I have a Linksys WPC54G ver3
[01:58] <Don_jr> meaning?
[01:58] <NewtoUbuntu> lol ok blueegale
[01:58] <yzzir> nalioth: you typed to me why couldnt u just answer my question :[
[01:58] <yawn9> yep, i spent the last two hours fighting with wpa_supplicant
[01:59] <AWOSDev> $20!?
[01:59] <NewtoUbuntu> Wait blueegale im nto using the set because the keyboard to the set is broken could this potentially cause a problem?
[01:59] <Don_jr> I was told I should be able to plug it in and it'll work, but that hasn't happened.  I had the card in the entire set up, should I remove it then reboot so the system doesn't see one, then add and reboot again and see if it runs it?
[01:59] <AWOSDev> I'll just use WLAN in Windows
[01:59] <kaot> Don_jr: meaning there's a chunk of firmware you have to stick, usually in /lib/firmware but maybe it's different on ubuntu.  Just google your for your card model + the word firmware, you should find it soon enough
[01:59] <Greatmetal> i am 14 and my parents wont give out credit card stuff online
[01:59] <swarm> heh
[01:59] <swarm> i use my own wlan drivers
[01:59] <nathe> heh
[02:00] <swarm> but i am not interested in writing install howto's or supporting them in any way....
[02:00] <KillerDemon2> can somebody help me please, ubuntu livecd does only 640x480 on my voodoo3 and now i cant install it
[02:00] <NewtoUbuntu> Blueeagle r u there?
[02:00] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: yes.
[02:00] <NewtoUbuntu> ok did u see my question?
[02:00] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: it would help if you spelt my nick correctly as I usually only read lines that are highlighted. :)
[02:00] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: It would appear that many people believe this set to be broken out of the box.
[02:00] <kaot> Don_jr: I think that card uses the prism54 driver by the way
[02:01] <NewtoUbuntu> o woops didnt realize i didnt spell it right blueeagle
[02:01] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: The quality of the product you are using appears to be questionable and I really cannot say if it's not working due to a fault in linux or not.
[02:01] <KillerDemon2> can somebody help me please, ubuntu livecd does only 640x480 on my voodoo3 and now i cant install it because i cant click the buttons beneith
[02:01] <Don_jr> okay in the ubuntu forums it says to load network-manager-gnome and that will install libraries that recognize the card.  how do I load the network-manager-gnome?
[02:01] <kitche> BlueEagle you must of a client that doesn't highlight if your nick isn't exactly right
[02:01] <Greatmetal> is there a way to use the .bin and sys file besides linuxant
[02:01] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: (here's a hint: type bluee and hit the TAB button to have your IRC client complete the nick)
[02:01] <NewtoUbuntu> o thanks BlueEagle
[02:02] <kaot> Don_jr: System -> Administration -> network I believe
[02:02] <Blinker> KillerDemon2: beneath what?
[02:02] <KillerDemon2> in the screen
[02:02] <YoussefAssad> KillerDemon2: I think you need to repeat that a lot more, and faster too. That's how to get a response
[02:02] <KillerDemon2> i cant click next and stuff
[02:02] <BlueEagle> kitche: I used to highlight on "blue" but that was way back when I was the only one in chans that used blue in my nick. :)
[02:02] <Don_jr> hmm okay I'll go try that in a sec
[02:02] <NewtoUbuntu> would it make a difference if i plugged the mouse in when the comp was on and then rebooted as to opposed if i were to have th ecomp on when i plugged it in?
[02:02] <Blinker> does alt+n work?
[02:02] <Blinker> or maybejust tab toit?
[02:02] <KillerDemon2> wel this is on 480x480 so i only see 6 lines of text :P
[02:03] <Blinker> ah
[02:03] <Greatmetal> i need to hook my pc to my tv
[02:03] <NewtoUbuntu> would it make a difference if i plugged the mouse in when the comp was on and then rebooted as to opposed if i were to have th ecomp off when i plugged it in? BlueEagle
[02:03] <Greatmetal> so i get good resolution
[02:03] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: as for using just the mouse and not the keyboard, yes that might cause a problem. However it might not. I would recomen you try a wired PS2 mouse to see if that will work for you. If it does I guess the blame is on the eagle touch mouse. (Too bad they but 'eagle' on such shoddy products)
[02:03] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: no that should not make a difference.
[02:03] <nathe> anyway, anyone have any ideas on the fglrx driver lockup?
[02:04] <Blinker> Greatmetal: you do realize that resolution is not equal to screen size, yes?
[02:04] <Don_jr> okay, it appears I may have to install ndiswrapper
[02:04] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: the reason that I asked if it was rebooted or off is that the PS2 port is not hot-pluggable. IE it is not designed to detect hardware changes while it's running.
[02:04] <Don_jr> and block the prism54 from what the forums say....
[02:04] <yawn9> ok, wpa_supplicant isn't starting automatically on reboot
[02:04] <yawn9> how can i make wpa_supplicant start on reboot and when it connects bring up eth1 again?
[02:05] <BlueEagle> yawn9: Is there a script for it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[02:05] <Blinker> Greatmetal: i honestly don't know how to help ya on that one. but you may want to look into xubuntu if youre on an older machine
[02:05] <atroWork> How can I run a php script constantly in the background, preferably startable/stoppable by something like inet.d? On windows I used srvany to make it a windows service, and I want to do something similar in ubuntu.
[02:05] <yawn9> BlueEagle: nope. the wpahowto says there should be but there isn't
[02:05] <BlueEagle> yawn9: if so you might want to install something like bum and have it start it on boot.
[02:05] <BlueEagle> yawn9: o'rly. Well that's strange. :/
[02:05] <Greatmetal> how can i use the .bin file and .sys file without linuxant
[02:05] <NewtoUbuntu> ok well im going to attempt pluggint the mouse in in multiple fashions with the comp on and then with it off ill be back in a bit thanks for all the help BlueEagle and for using a different mouse i have a workable mouse just thought this would be more fun and easier to use
[02:05] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Oh, there might be a "connect" button on the mouse and reciever. Try pressing them.
[02:06] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: I would assume you've already done it but I just need to be sure.
[02:06] <keithg> Is checkinstall supposed to be run AFTER make install?
[02:06] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: also check the batteries.
[02:06] <AWOSDev> I found something about my WPC54G but I have to reboot
[02:06] <AWOSDev> so
[02:06] <AWOSDev> bye!
[02:06] <Blinker> Killer_Demon: i honestly don't know how to help ya on that one. but you may want to look into xubuntu if youre on an older machine (oops, heh)
[02:06] <atroWork> NewtoUbuntu, if there are connect buttons, press the receiver first, usually
[02:06] <Greatmetal> i use gaim too
[02:06] <NewtoUbuntu> ok the batteries work and the connect button u speak off hmmm i see on a button Labeled Id on the reciever BlueEagle
[02:07] <yawn9> BlueEagle: is there a generic script like /etc/init/rc.d or whatever the other distros have i can add a line to?
[02:07] <GUIPEnguin_> can someone please help me? add/remove programs,  it doesn't seem to be able to connect to the internet... "You need a working internet connection to continue"    but I can ping fine, and browse the internet with firefox....THIS is why I am getting "package is not avalible for your arch"  how do I fix this? here is my unanswered question... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243211
[02:07] <Greatmetal> and in windows trillian
[02:07] <bluefox83> !nvtv
[02:07] <ubotu> nvtv: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.7-3 (dapper), package size 237 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[02:07] <BlueEagle> yawn9: I really do not know. :)
[02:07] <bluefox83> where can i get a list of compatible cards?
[02:07] <BlueEagle> yawn9: init.d scripts and the whole /etc/rc.d is still a mystery for me. :)
[02:07] <Greatmetal> wiki.ubuntu.com/wifidocs
[02:07] <Sembiance> I'm thinking of creating a Linux box to use as a workstation (C/C++ coder) and I'm thinking of using Ubuntu. My first instinct is to actually use Gentoo but it takes so long to compile/do anything, plus the lackluster hardware support, etc.  I really don't want to spend a weekend just getting it up and running.
[02:08] <BlueEagle> bluefox83: You talking about TV cards?
[02:08] <mcphail> GUIPEnguin_: how many nameservers do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:08] <Sembiance> I have a question about Ubuntu though. What package management system does it use?
[02:08] <YoussefAssad> Sembiance: apt
[02:08] <meone> apt-get
[02:08] <swarm> Sembiance, synaptic
[02:08] <meone> Sembiance if you have a fairly new system you can get Gentoo running pretty quick
[02:08] <swarm> Sembiance, apt, aptitude
[02:08] <swarm> Sembiance, same as debian
[02:08] <argument> how do I get the clock in kde to display 12 hour time instead of 24 hour time?
[02:08] <bluefox83> BlueEagle, sort of, i have a nvidia 5500 FX and i need to find out if i can use the svido out port or not..
[02:09] <Greatmetal> i need to restart my pc just updated
[02:09] <BlueEagle> bluefox83: If you run lspci or lsusb (depends on how your tuner is connected) then you'll probably see which chipset it uses. If you haven't bought the TV card yet get something with the brooktree (bt) chipset.
[02:09] <GUIPEnguin_> mcphail: just my local dns server I use on my lan for all my computers...my network connection is fine, and I can resolve anything
[02:09] <GUIPEnguin_> its the software I believe
[02:09] <Sembiance> Do I just download Ubuntu 6.06 cd image and burn it?
[02:09] <BlueEagle> bluefox83: Oh, well the svideo out should be supported. You will however probably need to setup twinview in your xorg.conf
[02:09] <meone> yup
[02:09] <bluefox83> BlueEagle, not looking for a tb tuner card..just looking to see if i can use my tv as a second  monitor
[02:10] <atroWork> Sembiance, yup, it's a live cd with a graphical installer
[02:10] <bluefox83> BlueEagle, i did..now i have some wierd issues with it
[02:10] <bluefox83> !pastebot
[02:10] <BlueEagle> bluefox83: Well which issues would that be?
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <sysdoc> OK someone have the instructions to get amorak and all the other video players to produce sound? lol
[02:11] <GUIPEnguin_> mcphail: what is the stable version before dapper drake?    cause I never had problems with that
[02:11] <sysdoc> Guess I'll have to get this working now...:)
[02:11] <mcphail> GUIPEnguin_: breezy
[02:11] <GUIPEnguin_> is it still acceptable to use breezy?
[02:11] <mcphail> GUIPEnguin_: of course
[02:12] <mcphail> GUIPEnguin_: i think it is offically supported for 18 months
[02:12] <atroWork> yes, 18 months
[02:12] <CVirus> argument: alt + f2
[02:12] <GUIPEnguin_> how long has dapper been out?
[02:12] <CVirus> argument: type kcontrol and hit enter
[02:12] <swarm> !sound > swarm
[02:12] <atroWork> since june 1st
[02:12] <swarm> !sound > sysdoc
[02:12] <MikeyMike> is xgl/compiz only for gnome?
[02:12] <CVirus> YoussefAssad: :-p
[02:13] <bluefox83> can i attatch my entire xorg.conf file to the pastebin?
[02:13] <mcphail> MikeyMike: no
[02:13] <MikeyMike> can someone using xfce use it?
[02:13] <atroWork> the 6.06 part of Ubuntu 6.06 means 2006 6th month, all versions follow that naming scheme
[02:13] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to crack a rar file?
[02:13] <CVirus> argument: go to the regional settings
[02:13] <kitche> MikeyMike: no I run it with xfce but I don't us XGL either
[02:13] <YoussefAssad> CVirus: lamer
[02:13] <CVirus> ROFL
[02:13] <looktj> !universe
[02:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:13] <CVirus> argument: times and dates
[02:13] <jvai> 
[02:13] <sysdoc> swarm, thanks
[02:14] <argument> got it thanks
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikeymike: gxl works with xfce4
[02:14] <CVirus> argument: no problem
[02:14] <looktj> !repos
[02:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:14] <MikeyMike> BlueEagle,  cool
[02:14] <looktj> grr
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikeymike: I had it working then I installed ubuntu.
[02:14] <kitche> have any of you in here tried aiglx?
[02:14] <Greatmetal> yay gaim still works
[02:14] <MikeyMike> does it use alot of resources? i know a girl she wants to run xgl with compiz on a pretty old computer
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikeymike: You'll probably need to google. There are some how-to's out there but not all of them are working iirc.
[02:14] <Goldfisch> I did a clean install of dapper 6.06.1 amd64. Then I rebooted (with noapic). System comes up great. Then I did sudo apt-get update followed by upgrade. Now I reboot and it freezes when trying to mount the root filesystem. Not much on google about this.
[02:14] <MikeyMike> BlueEagle,  ok cool
[02:14] <atroWork> MikeyMike, yes, it's pretty resource intensive
[02:14] <swarm> MikeyMike, #ubuntu-XGL
[02:14] <MikeyMike> thats what i was thinking
[02:14] <MikeyMike> thanks swarm
[02:14] <YoussefAssad> argument: if you worked out how to change from 24 hour format to 12 hour in KDE, would you do a HOWTO writeup?
[02:14] <BlueEagle> mikeymike: also try asking in #xubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl
[02:14] <swarm> np :)
[02:15] <MikeyMike> ok i will
[02:15] <BlueEagle> mikeymike: :)
[02:15] <NewtoUbuntu> BlueEagle: i just wanted to tell u that i assume this is problem with the mouse its self and not actually a problem connecting the mouse to ubuntu.. because i have never before had a compatibility problem with ubuntu and any of my mouses/printers/scanners etc. if nay1 should again ask this question i would advise you to advise them to get their money back :) thanks and cya
[02:15] <kitche> MikeyMike you could try aiglx it's built into xorg 7.1
[02:15] <MikeyMike> would it work with blackbox? lol
[02:15] <Greatmetal> i love swiftfox
[02:15] <MikeyMike> kitche,  ah okay
[02:15] <MikeyMike> this isn't for me
[02:15] <argument> YoussefAssad, meh all you gotta do is log out and log back in
[02:15] <argument> YoussefAssad, go to regional settings, times and dates, change to pH log out log in poof done
[02:15] <argument> YoussefAssad, go ahead and write it up if you like :)
[02:15] <kitche> MikeyMike: well aiglx is a different type of rendering it uses XGL is direct and aiglx is indirect but aiglx doesn't work on all cards yet
[02:16] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Now I saw this review on http://www.ocia.net/reviews/wkeyboard/wpage3.shtml There is a channel selector in the battery bay of the mouse and there should be a small button that you'll need a pen to press. That's probably the 'connect' button.
[02:16] <YoussefAssad> argument: amazing
[02:16] <MikeyMike> kitche,  ah okay
[02:16] <flasher> i put my floppy into " a: drive" yet i can't save onto it. what must i do in order to access my floppy?
[02:16] <BlueEagle> aww he elft.
[02:16] <MikeyMike> which one looks better?
[02:16] <xoid> u have ubuntu 6.06 then i installed kubuntu desktop. how do i run kde? when i restarted my computer my desktop is still in gnome
[02:16] <MikeyMike> direct is kinda rough
[02:16] <MikeyMike> isnt it
[02:16] <atroWork> xoid, there's a session switcher at the bottom left. I think KDE should be in there.
[02:16] <mcphail> flasher: first of all, you must reboot from DOS!
[02:16] <atroWork> xoid, on the login screen that is
[02:16] <CVirus> I wonder why dont we add "No Troll Feeding" to the topic !
[02:16] <flasher> mcphail: no
[02:17] <flasher> mcphail: please
[02:17] <Greatmetal> please no dos....
[02:17] <yawn9> ok, i know this has to be really simple and obvious but i can't think anymore because i've been fighting the wifi all day. how do i get a ssh daemon on there?
[02:17] <Greatmetal> dos = evil
[02:17] <flasher> how do i access my floppy?
[02:17] <xoid> ok. tnks. il try that
[02:17] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know how to crack rar files?
[02:17] <kaot> crack them?
[02:17] <CVirus> yawn9: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[02:17] <kaot> unrar e $filename
[02:17] <mcphail> flasher: linux doesn't name drives A:, C: etc
[02:17] <Greatmetal> who here has fyre isnt it great
[02:17] <flasher> mcphail: i know
[02:17] <YoussefAssad> crack rar files? Did you wander in here by mistake, young man? This is a linux channel, not #warez
[02:18] <atroWork> Corporal_Dirge, take that to #ubuntu-offtopic or search google
[02:18] <flasher> that's why i had quotation marks around A: drive
[02:18] <flasher> i'm running low on time,
[02:18] <flasher> please advise how to access my floppy drive/disk
[02:18] <CVirus> LOOL @ YoussefAssad
[02:18] <mcphail> !floppy
[02:18] <Goldfisch> flasher: Probably something like "mount /dev/flopy /media/floppy".
[02:18] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[02:19] <Greatmetal> i love my vlc player
[02:19] <YoussefAssad> flasher: erm, your floppy is easy to access. It's that slot on the front of your box, you just insert those black plastic squares into it
[02:19] <Don_jr> okay, brought my laptop down here with me so I can look at it and talk here at the same time
[02:19] <flasher> YoussefAssad: oh, please
[02:19] <Jural> Any one know where I can get version of gnome-svg that's compatible with ubuntu's current version of the gimp?
[02:19] <YoussefAssad> flasher: *grin*
[02:19] <bluefox83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21605
[02:19] <atroWork> flasher, follow ubotu's link... he's much more helpful than YoussefAssad ;)
[02:20] <YoussefAssad> atroWork speaks the truth
[02:20] <Corporal_Dirge> atroWork, I've been searching google. And offtopic it too diluted.
[02:20] <CVirus> atroWork: totally agreed
[02:20] <flasher> atroWork: thanks
[02:20] <Don_jr> Okay, can I put ndiswrapper on a disk and load it that way?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> corporal_dirge: If you haven't got the password for a rar-file then it's probably because you forgot it or you're attmpting to open a rar-file that you should not be able to open. In either case the best thing to do is to use passwords that you will remember or not download password protected rar-files.
[02:20] <atroWork> Corporal_Dirge, well it's off topic and you've been repeating yourself. This is not the place to get an answer for that question.
[02:20] <Greatmetal> i use 7-zip
[02:20] <flasher> if something is on https://help.ubuntu.com/, it means it's good, correct?
[02:20] <Goldfisch> When my machine boots up, it freezes after printing out "Booting the kernel". It says "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work" I think it is not properly reading the root filesystem. Any ideas?
[02:21] <CVirus> Corporal_Dirge: fcrackzip is usefull for zip files
[02:21] <Corporal_Dirge> BlueEagle, I'm trying to recover it for somone else.
[02:21] <mcphail> Corporal_Dirge: then ask them to join #crackz. It remains off-topic
[02:21] <Jural> There are a few password recovery apps for rar and zip passwords for windows, don't know if there are any for nix
[02:21] <GUIPEnguin_> where do I download breezy?
[02:21] <Corporal_Dirge> atroWork, I run Ubuntu so I was hoping someone here would know a bruteforce app for Ubuntu. Google only shows win 99.999% of the time
[02:22] <Greatmetal> i am having trouble getting blac and white 2 running on wine
[02:22] <bluefox83> Corporal_Dirge, www.google.corg/linux
[02:22] <atroWork> Corporal_Dirge, all the same, it's off topic, please take it somewhere else.
[02:22] <bluefox83> woops
[02:22] <bluefox83> Corporal_Dirge, www.google.com/linux
[02:22] <bluefox83> there ya go
[02:22] <BlueEagle> corporal_dirge: Well then I suggest you ask them for the password. If they can't remember it than tell them to use passwords that they will remember. Then just deletet the file and if the friend starts whining then biatch-slap him to make him stop. Now you're still off-topic. Thank you.
[02:22] <YoussefAssad> .corg? New TLD for corgis?
[02:22] <CVirus> GUIPEnguin_: what do you think ? www.microsoft.com ? heh ?
[02:23] <Greatmetal> awsome google linux
[02:23] <flasher> atroWork: i did what that ubotu link said
[02:23] <GUIPEnguin_> CVirus: I couldn't find breezy on the website..
[02:23] <flasher> now does this mean that whenever i put a disk in, i could just access it?
[02:23] <flasher> no need to mount /blahblah/blahblah?
[02:23] <CVirus> GUIPEnguin_: thats your own problem
[02:23] <GUIPEnguin_> CVirus: then dont respond? I wasn't asking you personaly
[02:23] <Greatmetal> windoze and its creator are evil
[02:24] <CVirus> GUIPEnguin_: whatever
[02:24] <jvai> lol
[02:24] <flasher> i can't paste into floppy
[02:24] <flasher> why now?
[02:24] <flasher> why not?
[02:24] <flasher> i'm trying to paste using filemanegr
[02:24] <Greatmetal> floppys are obosolete to me
[02:24] <Jural> Anyone in here use inkscape? If so anyone know a app to convert from svg to layered PSD beside The Gimp?
[02:24] <flasher> sheesh
[02:24] <Greatmetal> i use a fash drive
[02:24] <kitche> flasher: did you sudo
[02:24] <Corporal_Dirge> Jural, That's offtopic. Leave
[02:24] <flasher> i have to open a sudo filemanager?
[02:24] <flasher> why?
[02:24] <flasher> i don't need to sudo when i copy and paste from and to hard-drive.
[02:25] <mcphail> GUIPEnguin_: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/breezy/?fl=
[02:25] <Jural> Is this not the help irc channel they have listed on the ubuntu website?
[02:25] <flasher> so why is sudo necessary when copying to floppy?
[02:25] <flasher> i don't get it.
[02:25] <kitche> flasher: that's because you copy to a place that your user has access to
[02:25] <atroWork> Flasher, I don't know, I don't actually have a floppy drive. I imagine it behaves similarly to cd rom drives though, in that it will automount.
[02:25] <Goldfisch> I yanked out the floppy drive from my desktop so I fit in an older hard drive and it to my LVM volume group. Much more efficient use of space. I just use flash thumb drives now.
[02:25] <Corporal_Dirge> Jural, it is, I'm mimicing other people here that don't like me asking about Ubuntu apps.
[02:25] <flasher> kitche: what?
[02:25] <monteiro> is there any tool in gnome with a gui, to manage cron ? (for example, to execute something in a certain day)
[02:25] <GUIPEnguin_> mcphail: thanks
[02:25] <looktj> http://chaoscheats.com/smf/install.php?step=0&overphp=true
[02:26] <looktj> i need a good ftpd
[02:26] <flasher> atroWork: why can't it be like windows?
[02:26] <CVirus> monteiro: et3alem ezay tekteb cron scripts ya kos omak
[02:26] <kitche> flasher: you need perms to write to a floppy just like the same that you need perms to write to a hard drive
[02:26] <atroWork> Jural, Corporal_Dirge is just being pissy because he's asking for help with illegal activities, feel free to ask your questions in here.
[02:26] <Corporal_Dirge> monteiro, This is about ubuntu, not gnome or it's applications, leave.
[02:26] <kitche> flasher: for example user
[02:26] <kaot> Corporal_Dirge: uh.  you're being somewhat of a prat.
[02:26] <atroWork> flasher, if it were like windows few people in here would use it :p
[02:26] <flasher> kitche: , well, i don't have any problems with permissions when i save to harddrive.
[02:26] <Corporal_Dirge> You may not ask about any applications that run on ubuntu or gnome.
[02:26] <flasher> it happens behind the scenes
[02:26] <kitche> flasher: for example userA can't paste soemthing to that it doesn't have perms
[02:26] <Don_jr> is the kernel-restricted-modules packet included on the install CD?
[02:26] <Corporal_Dirge> kaot, no. Everyone else was. I'm mimiking.
[02:27] <atroWork> looktj, proftpd
[02:27] <YoussefAssad> monteiro: gvim :)
[02:27] <kitche> flasher try copying something as user to /root
[02:27] <flasher> i wish saving/copying to floppy had all these little things (permsissions, user, etc) work behidd the scenes
[02:27] <Jural> All good, just having some issues, on the box at the office (ubuntu), I use gentoo at home, and the gimp-svg plugin is working... gotta give this svg to a client in psd for... stressing
[02:27] <flasher> kitche: but i'm the only user of my computer
[02:27] <monteiro> YoussefAssad : :) thats is good, but i want something easier :)
[02:27] <flasher> ktchhow do i copy something as user to root?
[02:27] <Corporal_Dirge> flasher, sudo cp file file.
[02:27] <looktj> atrowork: is it easy to install it?
[02:28] <flasher> Corporal_Dirge: how can i avoid having to do sudo when i want to copy to my floppy?
[02:28] <alex_> olaaa
[02:28] <atroWork> looktj, as simple as adding it in synaptic. It uses text based config files, but gproftpd is a GUI app that will help you with the configuration.
[02:28] <Corporal_Dirge> flasher, make the umask in fstab umask=000
[02:28] <alex_> olaaa
[02:29] <visik7> is packages.ubuntu.com in sync with repository ?
[02:29] <looktj> how do i install it then?
[02:29] <YoussefAssad> I don't get it. Why can't I change wallpaper? I did everything right in my ubuntu, I opened the conqueror explorer and double clicked on my girlfriend's picture.
[02:29] <Corporal_Dirge> flasher, If you can't chmod the floppy, then that means the fstab it taking priority.
[02:29] <Greatmetal> what is the best gtk 2.x theme?
[02:29] <Don_jr> Why does the lspci show that it sees a wireless card yet the network does not?
[02:29] <alex_> alguiene espaol?
[02:29] <AWOSDev> My WLAN still doesn't work
[02:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Greatmetal, Depends on what you like.
[02:29] <alex_> spanish please?
[02:30] <Greatmetal> okay
[02:30] <baconbacon> #ubuntu-es
[02:30] <Goldfisch> !spanish
[02:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <flasher> Corporal_Dirge: you're speaking greek to me. sorry
[02:30] <alex_> thanks
[02:30] <Tehcarp> I need a serious Ubuntu user
[02:30] <Tehcarp> I can't load my X server
[02:30] <Ropechoborra> Tehcarp what do you mean by serious ?
[02:30] <kitche> Don_jr: the module might load but the config might be wrong
[02:30] <Tehcarp> On my other computer
[02:30] <Ropechoborra> lol didnt understand
[02:30] <Goldfisch> It's after work. No way am I serious now! :)
[02:30] <Ropechoborra> xD
[02:31] <baconbacon> Tehcarp you know about !xorgbugfix ?
[02:31] <Tehcarp> GNOME wont load
[02:31] <Corporal_Dirge> flasher, The fstab file holds the info about the permissions, mount locations, etc of mounted devices.
[02:31] <mcphail> Tehcarp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:31] <Don_jr> how do I check the config to fix it?
[02:31] <Greatmetal> is there a good screen recorder in linux?
[02:31] <Tehcarp> No, I just woke up today
[02:31] <andresmujica> tehcarp, maybe you must upgrade your system , a few days ago there was a failed xorg update
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[02:31] <bluefox83> ``````````````````````````````````````````
[02:31] <bluefox83> oops
[02:31] <kitche> Don_jr what kind of config you using wpa_supplicant
[02:31] <bluefox83> sorry
[02:31] <Tehcarp> and It Can't start the X server because apparently it isn't configured properly
[02:31] <erpo> I need a linux-based graphical spectrum analyzer. I want it to take input from my ALSA sound card's attached microphone. (OSS works too if necessary) Any suggestions?
[02:31] <andresmujica> greatmetal i've heard about vnc2swf
[02:31] <__mikem> bluefox83 what happened
[02:31] <Ropechoborra> ubotu tell Tehcarp xorgbugfix
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell Tehcarp xorgbugfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <AWOSDev> I need help with either native Broadcom support or NDISrapper
[02:31] <kitche> Don_jr I mean type of network if it's WPA or not
[02:32] <Corporal_Dirge> flasher, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:32] <baconbacon> !xorgbugfix > Tehcarp
[02:32] <Ropechoborra> ops
[02:32] <monteiro> YoussefAssad : gnome-schedule do the trick :)
[02:32] <cafuego> AWOSDev: The wioki entry on bcm43xx is great.
[02:32] <AWOSDev> Didn't see it
[02:32] <YoussefAssad> monteiro: might look at that myself. Thanks!
[02:32] <Tehcarp> How do I do that from my terminal?
[02:32] <sysdoc> !sound sysdoc
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound sysdoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <sysdoc> oops
[02:32] <AWOSDev> !wiki
[02:32] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:32] <mcphail> Tehcarp: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:32] <bluefox83> __mikem,  mu keyboard was laying down and i was eatting dinner...my toe was pushing the button..i looked over at the screen and noticed what it did, when i picked the keyboard up i must have bumped the enter key :X
[02:32] <AWOSDev> Thank you ubotu :)
[02:32] <Don_jr> okay if I run iwconfig it doesn't show the card at all
[02:33] <AWOSDev> Me too
[02:33] <cafuego> AWOSDev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:33] <monteiro> YoussefAssad : you helped me first, i've to say tks too
[02:33] <cafuego> For both cases it probably means you need the firmware.
[02:33] <sysdoc> 1sound
[02:33] <sysdoc> !sound
[02:33] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:33] <baconbacon> Tehcarp: type the 2 commands ubotu gave you on a terminal, it should work then
[02:34] <bluefox83> BlueEagle, still here?
[02:34] <baconbacon> Tehcarp: after these 2 commands, sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <Blinker> !seen spacefinn
[02:34] <ubotu> spacefinn is on IRC right now!
[02:34] <viator> how do i tell somthing to use gcc 3.4 instead of 4 when compiling?
[02:35] <Jural> Anyone tell me where I can find the time schedule for upcoming app updates on ubuntu? Does Ubuntu have a online list?
[02:35] <kaot> viator: is 3.4 still installed?
[02:35] <Grok__> trying to install ubuntu on an old pII laptop w/128mb ram. i've gotten it all the way to the point of where it began to load the desktop and i can hear the cd rom drive crankin but it's been crankin for nearly 45 minutes. the initial splashy window that appears to show you desktop loading progress has disappeared and it's a blank screen with an occaisional mouse cursor. (almost like it's going to blank screensaver mode) any ideas?
[02:35] <viator> yes 3.4 is
[02:35] <viator> amd 4
[02:35] <viator> i need 3x for this app
[02:35] <mcphail> viator: pass CC=gcc-3.4
[02:35] <Don_jr> all of the wiki's and websites assume that the computer is online first.  That's not helping me
[02:36] <jman888_> How can i make the drive stuff gets installed to when i apt-get change(The normal drive is full 90% (And its a 4gb drive)
[02:36] <Tehcarp> thanks everyone that seemed to work
[02:36] <Tehcarp> sorry for the scrub question
[02:37] <Tehcarp> I will spread the word so that others do not have to
[02:37] <sloucher> Grok_: I think you just have to get more memory, like 256 at least.
[02:37] <kaot> Don_jr: this on a different computer than the one you're on?
[02:37] <mcphail> Tehcarp: you are just the latest of thousands with that question :)
[02:37] <kaot> Don_jr: or can you not run these commands without rebooting or somethign?
[02:38] <Don_jr> this is a different computer I'm on.  I am using IRC on my desktop with XP, the ubuntu install is on my laptop
[02:38] <Greatmetal> mabey i can get my mom to buy me linuxant
[02:38] <kaot> Don_jr: try modprobe prism54 (I think is the module name)
[02:38] <kaot> Don_jr: sorry, sudo modprobe prism54
[02:38] <kaot> I always forget the sudo.  :|
[02:39] <viator> hmm that isnt it
[02:39] <viator> but its somthing similar
[02:39] <AWOSDev> Hey I got something!
[02:39] <viator> i remeber
[02:39] <Don_jr> fatal: error inserting prism54 {/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism54/prism54.ko): operation not permitted
[02:39] <kaot> AWOSDev: you messing with broadcom stuff?
[02:39] <kaot> Don_jr: you sudo that?
[02:39] <AWOSDev> Yep
[02:39] <cyphase> woohoo! Nexuiz is finally in dapper-backports
[02:39] <Don_jr> npe
[02:39] <Don_jr> nope
[02:39] <Greatmetal> sudo modprobe prism54
[02:39] <Don_jr> will do that now
[02:39] <kaot> Don_jr: yeh, do that.
[02:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: which chipset?
[02:40] <BlueEagle> is it just me or is cipherfunk.org not working as it should?
[02:40] <Don_jr> what is the pw for sudo? I just installed it and it's not accepting mine
[02:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I got it somewhat, it actually says "Access Point: Not Associated" vs "Access Point: Invalid" but now it says out of range, no APs available
[02:40] <BlueEagle> I keep getting "No such file" form it.
[02:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I use the Broadcom 4318
[02:40] <Greatmetal> none of these themes are working hmm
[02:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: the tough one :)
[02:40] <SurfnKid> how can i run a command and release it from the VT so i can keep typing something else
[02:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: oh, the yum.  lol... that's the one I've got actually
[02:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I got ndiswrapper
[02:40] <Greatmetal> is it tar.gz or tar.bz2?
[02:40] <Flannel> SurfnKid: &
[02:41] <SurfnKid> nice
[02:41] <bluefox83> BlueEagle, did you happen to see my post of my xorg.conf and the errors?
[02:41] <kaot> AWOSDev: does it identify as AirForceOne 54g?
[02:41] <Flannel> SurfnKid: that is, [command]  &
[02:41] <AWOSDev> Yep
[02:41] <SurfnKid> Flannel, you rock, thanks
[02:41] <SurfnKid> yep, perfect
[02:41] <jman888_>  How can i make the drive stuff gets installed to when i apt-get change(The normal drive is full 90% (And its a 4gb drive)
[02:41] <Don_jr> what is the default sudo password??
[02:41] <jman888_> ?
[02:41] <Greatmetal> i hate it when people do the vista themes linux is not windows!!!!
[02:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes it does
[02:42] <viator> don there is none
[02:42] <viator> you set it up
[02:42] <Don_jr> it's askin me for one
[02:42] <bluefox83> Don_jr, you set the password when you install ubuntu
[02:42] <Flannel> Don_jr: your user password
[02:42] <Don_jr> it's not accepting that password I use to login
[02:42] <kaot> AWOSDev: well, if it's showing the card you're at least partway there.  sort of.  maybe.  you seeing a frequency and power level and all that jazz?
[02:42] <kaot> AWOSDev: wan power/activity light on the card/laptop?
[02:42] <Don_jr> tells me authentication failure, sorry.
[02:42] <beu> hi!
[02:42] <sleepneverhahaha> What is the password
[02:42] <viator> he might have more than one user acct
[02:42] <Don_jr> cheyenne
[02:43] <viator> sudo passwd
[02:43] <AWOSDev> kaot: yep
[02:43] <Don_jr> shoulnd't I only created the one I was prompted to create
[02:43] <jman888_> Greatmetal, But sometimes people feel windows sick and want to use it (Im using a vista theme right now because the orange look began to seem boring (I love it though)
[02:43] <viator> try that
[02:43] <Phenax> ] [] [] [] [] [
[02:43] <AWOSDev> kaot: And the "activity" light is blinking on/off/on/off so it actually is doing *something*
[02:43] <Flannel> no.  you have no need to set a root password
[02:43] <Greatmetal> yeah i guess your right
[02:43] <kitche> Don_jr you can have about 59 users on linux if you want to
[02:43] <kaot> AWOSDev: good news. ok, try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (your ssid name)"
[02:43] <Greatmetal> i have to goto it to play my games
[02:44] <AWOSDev> kaot: But it says "out of range" -- 4 feet away :(
[02:44] <Greatmetal> but i heard of wine?
[02:44] <Don_jr> that's great, I only have the one account that I know of...and 'password' is not the password...lol
[02:44] <Greatmetal> windows emu or somthing
[02:44] <UdontKnow> WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[02:44] <bluefox83> Greatmetal, wine is a windows api layer
[02:44] <AWOSDev> kaot: didn't see the sudo ... line you posted above, I go try that
[02:44] <UdontKnow> why dont people get it?
[02:44] <jman888_> Greatmetal, I avoid windows as much as i can so i just put on a windows theme and feel better
[02:44] <UnmannedLeech> huh?
[02:44] <jman888_> Greatmetal, Wine is great
[02:45] <Greatmetal> cool
[02:45] <Don_jr> I can't even get root permission on my own box...
[02:45] <drgonzo> hello all
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: LOL
[02:45] <bluefox83> Don_jr, you don't need it, just use sudo
[02:45] <UnmannedLeech> lol
[02:45] <EtienneG> people do not get it becaus emost people do not know what API mean, but understand what an emulator do
[02:45] <viator> Don_jr try sudo passwd
[02:45] <kaot> Don_jr: your root password is other than your own password?
[02:45] <jman888_> Greatmetal, But i love cedega and crossover too.... And if i get desperate theres always vmware and win4lin
[02:45] <drgonzo> can someone point me to a guide on setting up bogofilter with ubuntu? I'm using kmail
[02:45] <Flannel> viator: he has no reason to set a root password,
[02:45] <AWOSDev> jman888_ just try Qemu
[02:45] <GUIPEnguin_> has anyone else ever had the problem of the latest version of dapper drake, locking up durning a screen saver?
[02:45] <jman888_> Qemu?
[02:45] <Don_jr> kaot I guess so, it's not accepting my own password.....
[02:45] <AWOSDev> jman888_: it's free
[02:46] <Phenax> cedega eww : (
[02:46] <kaot> funky.
[02:46] <Greatmetal> i know how to make opengl apps in c++
[02:46] <Don_jr> viator I type sudo password and it tells me password is not a valid command
[02:46] <Phenax> sudo passwd
[02:46] <Flannel> you have no reason to set a root password.
[02:46] <viator> not word wd
[02:46] <AWOSDev> jman888_: It's in your Synaptic Package Manager under Misc (console)
[02:46] <jman888_> AWOSDev, But i already have Win4lin. But i Might try it.
[02:46] <AWOSDev> jman888_: It's like Bochs but really fast, on my 500MHz it even runs fast
[02:46] <Don_jr> Phenax that did it
[02:46] <Don_jr> now modprobe prism54
[02:46] <kaot> I have a reason.  "Cuz I felt like it."
[02:47] <Don_jr> it does nothing
[02:47] <kaot> it returned no error?
[02:47] <jman888_> AWOSDev, its like win4lin?
[02:47] <kitche> Don_jr it won't if it worked ok
[02:47] <Jamminpotato> im having trouble mounting a ntfs partition that i would like to read, i entered an entry into fstab then mounted it and it said the mount worked but when i goto the mount point it says only root can read it, how can i fix this problem?
[02:47] <Don_jr> no error, looked like it did nothing
[02:47] <kaot> Don_jr: it succeeds quietly.  Try iwconfig and see if it's there.
[02:47] <AWOSDev> jman888_, I don't know what win4lin is
[02:47] <Don_jr> okay
[02:47] <Phenax> qemu is teh own
[02:47] <Phenax> Processor emulator
[02:47] <Don_jr> no wireless extensions
[02:47] <AWOSDev> Phenax: that's "Qemu is teh pwn" :)
[02:47] <Don_jr> lo and sit0 are the only 2
[02:47] <kaot> Don_jr: dmesg
[02:47] <jman888_> AWOSDev, Its like vmware..
[02:48] <bluefox83> why people insist on using windows applications...i'll never know
[02:48] <AWOSDev> jman888_: That's exactly what Qemu is
[02:48] <kaot> holy crap that C-5 sounded like it was going to land on my house
[02:48] <AWOSDev> jman888_: Only free and open-source :)
[02:48] <kaot> AWOSDev: you try that command yet?
[02:48] <viator> ubuntu made my wirless car eth1
[02:48] <Don_jr> eth0 (WE) : drivier using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[02:48] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes it didn't work
[02:48] <SurfnKid> viator, get used to it
[02:48] <kaot> AWOSDev: outstanding.  What'd it do?
[02:48] <viator> kinda screwed things up for thins  that expect it to be wlan0
[02:48] <jman888_> AWOSDev, I might try it. (Is it in apt?)
[02:48] <SurfnKid> viator, i still havent been able to change it to wlan0
[02:48] <Don_jr> mrv8k: mrv8k_init_one: return -2
[02:48] <AWOSDev> jman888_: Yes just "sudo apt-get install qemu"
[02:49] <viator> i  change the settings
[02:49] <AWOSDev> kaot: Nothing
[02:49] <AWOSDev> kaot: It just immediately returned
[02:49] <UnmannedLeech> for the ntfs issue try running "sudo chown fvR username:username /mnt/foldername" of course it'll be a little different for you
[02:49] <kitche> viator: you just have to change udev settings to make it wlan0
[02:49] <viator> once i did it worked fine
[02:49] <SurfnKid> kitche, how do ya do that?
[02:49] <AWOSDev> kaot: When I ran "iwconfig" again, it still said "essid: off/any"
[02:49] <Don_jr> mrv8k: probe of 0000:02:00.0 failed with error -2
[02:49] <viator> i have the one broadcom chipset that doesnt work
[02:50] <Jamminpotato>  im having trouble mounting a ntfs partition that i would like to read, i entered an entry into fstab then mounted it and it said the mount worked but when i goto the mount point it says only root can read it, how can i fix this problem?
[02:50] <AWOSDev> viator: I have the second broadcom chipset that doesn't work :)
[02:50] <viator> the other broadcom chipset i have the older one
[02:50] <kaot> AWOSDev: poo.  Okay.  We may still have driver funk here.  You blacklisted the bcm43xx driver and it is definitely not loaded right now, correct?
[02:50] <viator> works
[02:50] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[02:50] <viator> AWOS i got linuxtant
[02:50] <viator> driver
[02:50] <AWOSDev> kaot: I blacklisted bcm43xx and modprobed ndiswrapper
[02:50] <kaot> AWOSDev: ndiswrapper -l shows bcmwl5, driver present, hardware present?
[02:50] <viator> worth every penney
[02:50] <Jamminpotato>  im having trouble mounting a ntfs partition that i would like to read, i entered an entry into fstab then mounted it and it said the mount worked but when i goto the mount point it says only root can read it, how can i fix this problem?
[02:50] <AWOSDev> kaot: yes
[02:51] <Don_jr> and farther above it says mrv8k: firmware 'mrv8k-b.;fw' not available or load failed.
[02:51] <kitche> SurfnKid: there is couple of wiki's about it it's mostly just changeing options in network.rules
[02:51] <kaot> AWOSDev: is your WAP set to broadcast ssid?
[02:51] <AWOSDev> jamminpotato: Don't repeat your question.  Now, just "sudo ls -ld" to make sure that root can read it.
[02:51] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[02:51] <SurfnKid> kitche, wiki.ubuntu.com?
[02:51] <AWOSDev> kaot: Let me double-check though
[02:51] <Jamminpotato> AWOSDev: thanks
[02:51] <cafuego> If you have a 4306 or 4318 they'll both work ok, but they will need some lovin'.
[02:51] <kitche> SurfnKid it might be on there I know archlinux has it on theirs
[02:52] <kaot> AWOSDev: where'd you get the drivers from?
[02:52] <cafuego> Don_jr: The mrv8k driver is broken. You must use ndiswrapper.
[02:52] <viator> if you cant get your wirless to work i suggest this http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[02:52] <SurfnKid> kitche, ok cool
[02:52] <Jamminpotato> AWOSDev: it said this:  brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 2006-08-24 16:21 /dev/sdb1
[02:52] <Don_jr> cafuego can I put ndiswrapper on a disk and transfer it to my laptop that way?
[02:52] <cafuego> Don_jr: MAke SURE you blacklost mrv8k; otherwise loading ndiswrapper will hardlock your machine.
[02:52] <viator> sometimes $20 is worth it lol
[02:52] <kaot> AWOSDev: In my experience, while setting up that card, I noticed that the drivers that *should have* worked, didn't, and I had to do some trial and error to find the right ones.
[02:52] <cafuego> Don_jr: yes
[02:52] <bluefox83> ok...well ..i'm going to give this a try once more..
[02:52] <kitche> I like how bcm43xx works for me int he linux kernel
[02:53] <kaot> kitche: I like how it absolutely didn't work for me.   >:\
[02:53] <Don_jr> cafuego okay first how do I blacklist mrv8k? and second is there a specific ndiswrapper I need to get?
[02:53] <SurfnKid> kitche, so do i, i have to unload ndiswrapper, and reload it on startup to get the card going but thats ok
[02:53] <viator> bcm43xx doesnt work with all cards
[02:53] <sysdoc> Does Automatix only work with the 1386 kernel, anyone know?
[02:53] <kaot> viator: I noticed that.  lol
[02:53] <cafuego> Don_jr: Yes, hold on...
[02:53] <SurfnKid> kitche, but added it automatically to the rc.local script
[02:53] <kitche> viator: it depends on how old your card is I have a motorola
[02:53] <viator> the one in my new laptop for instance
[02:53] <Greatmetal> nice got my themes to work
[02:53] <kaot> viator: what kind of laptop?
[02:54] <viator> but my old pcmcia linksys i fine
[02:54] <Greatmetal> now to get linuxant licence full :9
[02:54] <viator> compaq
[02:54] <viator> presario
[02:54] <viator> it was like $500 new
[02:54] <viator> lol
[02:54] <treitter> I imaged a machine and dumped the image on other machines. Now the new machines' /etc/iftab is wrong - is there any simple way to regenerate the file without parsing output from ifconfig?
[02:54] <kaot> heh
[02:54] <viator> everything works
[02:54] <dr|zed> http://www.hackers-with-attitude.com/
[02:54] <viator> all the special buttons on the kb etc
[02:55] <Ricesteam> Hi, I have a 2nd harddrive. I am able to mount it, but only as root and I am able to write to that harddrive as the user. How do i fix this?
[02:55] <cafuego> Don_jr: Add mrv8k to /etc./modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:55] <Goldfisch> Well, I got my machine to boot up by removing "noapic" from /boot/grub/menu.lst. But now it won't properly interface with my wifi card! Arrgh!
[02:55] <viator> i have an hp thats about 2 1/2 years old as well
[02:55] <viator> all run ubuntu
[02:55] <Ricesteam> I am unable* to write to that mounted HD. How to I mount it so I can use it ?
[02:55] <AWOSDev> kaot: I got the drivers from the Wiki
[02:55] <kaot> this second one, i dunno how old it is, probably at least 6 or 7 years old.
[02:56] <natural20> so i keep getting "the connection was reset" error when browsing.  i have the same issues with all my browsers, what should i do?
[02:56] <kitche> kaot: just by chance did you get the fw for your card?
[02:56] <kitche> since that the bcm43xx won't work without the fw
[02:56] <AWOSDev> kaot: They're the Acer drivers
[02:56] <Don_jr> okay
[02:56] <kaot> AWOSDev:  v3.100.46.0?
[02:56] <AWOSDev> kaot: uh, hold on
[02:57] <crimsun> !twinview
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <kaot> kitche: yes, I tried it, spent a whole day messing around that way.  I went back to ndiswrapper and got it working in relatively short order.  My card is just a pig, I think.
[02:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[02:57] <SurfnKid> !wlan0
[02:57] <ryan_> how do i format a drive
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <SurfnKid> !wlan
[02:58] <cafuego> Don_jr: I need to do a spot of searching to see where I got my ndiswrapper drivers from... :-)
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <kaot> AWOSDev: what the heck are we missing.  You got encryption on?
[02:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: I have WEP
[02:58] <Don_jr> cafuego take your time, are you using the same card? and if so, is yours made in china or taiwan?  I"m seeing on some sites that this can make a difference
[02:58] <kaot> AWOSDev: whee.  I haven 't messed with that yet, I'm in a relatively sparse area so I don't worry about it much.  If someone was close enough to get onto my wap, I could see them out my window.
[02:59] <cafuego> Don_jr: No idea; It's a Netgear WG511v3 is all I know.
[02:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: LOL
[02:59] <kaot> AWOSDev: point being, I'm not sure if wep's required before we can associate with the access point
[02:59] <Don_jr> cafuego mine is v2
[02:59] <viator> like i said if you card  wont work and youve tried EVERYTHING id  get the linuxtant driverloader
[02:59] <kaot> AWOSDev: someone else probably can answer that
[02:59] <kaot> AWOSDev: as near as I can tell everythign looks good and those are the right drivers though
[02:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: I saw, but did not login to, my neighbor's WAP in Windows' "select an access point"
[03:00] <Greatmetal> i love my ubuntu linux
[03:00] <viator> hey mikey he likes it
[03:00] <viator> lol
[03:00] <cafuego> Don_jr: You know what, I'll zip up the ones I use - I know they work.
[03:00] <kaot> AWOSDev: and everything else works fine under windows, I gather.
[03:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[03:00] <looktj> installing proftpd is hard
[03:01] <Greatmetal> now i need xgl but its being pain o butt on my radeon 9550 card
[03:01] <Grok__> is there a text mode install mode? (if not maybe at least text/non-gui disk util)? have an old laptop that's taken over an hour to load the live-cd desktop and i'm beginning to wonder if it ever will
[03:01] <cafuego> Nobody "needs" xgl.
[03:01] <Greatmetal> but its nice
[03:01] <cafuego> it's broken
[03:01] <Don_jr> cafuego alright, I'll need help installing them from a CD
[03:01] <Greatmetal> i know :9
[03:01] <cafuego> Don_jr: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/mrv.zip
[03:01] <AWOSDev> kaot: When I had Windows it worked fine, automatically said "Hey do you want to connect to your network?" I typed my password and it worked.
[03:02] <Greatmetal> waiting for update
[03:02] <NewtoUbuntu> im thinking of creating a game possibly strategy or rpg i have never done this before will some1 kindly point me to a program i could use to do that is in the universe or main repository? and point me to a site on how to use the program?
[03:02] <cafuego> Don_jr: Grab those; they supposedly work better than the netgear ones. Make sure it picks the MRV8335NT.sys driver not the XP one.
[03:02] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: One second
[03:02] <Don_jr> cafuego okay, let me burn them to a CD right quick.  Can you open another window with us in it make this a bit easier?
[03:02] <NewtoUbuntu> awosdev there are programs that will do the same thing for u on ubuntu
[03:02] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks awosdev
[03:02] <looktj> grok__:can u help, i dont follow
[03:03] <jman888_> Is it possible to download the 6.06 orange theme for 5.10?
[03:03] <viator>  unary operator expected
[03:03] <viator> 
[03:03] <phobic> anyone know how to fix scorched3d if the fonts are jacked??
[03:03] <Greatmetal> do you use gtk 2.x
[03:03] <viator> wth hell does that mean
[03:03] <Greatmetal> :jman_888 do you use gtk 2.x
[03:03] <jman888_> yes
[03:03] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell viator about lanugage
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanugage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <jman888_> Well i think
[03:04] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell viator about language
[03:04] <Greatmetal> okay yes you can i fyou use gtk 2.x
[03:04] <Grok__> looktj, i screwed up and asked the question before i googled for it. thanks though
[03:04] <BlueEagle> /msg ubotu tell blueeagle about typos ;D
[03:04] <kaot> AWOSDev: windows only has an advantage in that broadcom is lodged up their butt.  If they'd release specs or drivers this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
[03:04] <jman888_> Greatmetal, How...
[03:04] <kaot> AWOSDev: another problem is that I'm too lazy to have set up WEP, so I'm ignorant there.
[03:04] <viator> if you find the name of a place offensive
[03:04] <Pseudohead> I upgraded my kernel through apt-get and now it won't recognize my wireless modem... how do I revert back now that I can't connect for updates?
[03:05] <looktj> help me with proftpd
[03:05] <cafuego> viator: that the usa...???
[03:05] <Greatmetal> :jman_888 goto system prferences  themes
[03:05] <BlueEagle> pseudohead: you should be able to choose your old kernel from the grub boot menu (unless you removed it before making sure the new one works which is "a bad idea"(tm))
[03:05] <viator> yep
[03:06] <viator> what the heaven!
[03:06] <viator> :$
[03:06] <jman888_> Greatmetal, Now what?
[03:06] <NewtoUbuntu> AWOSDev: have u found anything yet ?
[03:06] <NewtoUbuntu> if not ill wait its fine
[03:06] <Greatmetal> install theme
[03:07] <Pseudohead> BlueEagle: I'll check again, thanks.
[03:07] <Don_jr> cafuego do I need the .inf and the nt.sys files both taken over to my ubuntu box?
[03:07] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: crystalspace looks good, also see liballegro, xconq
[03:07] <Jamminpotato> i have a question im in xorg.conf and i need to change my monitor resoultion to 1680x1050, but i cant seem to make it work
[03:07] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes I know
[03:07] <cafuego> Don_jr: Yes.
[03:07] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: are u using gnome or Kde ?
[03:07] <kaot> AWOSDev: gimme maybe 10 minutes, I'm going to set up WEP here.
[03:07] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: gnome
[03:08] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks
[03:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: Okay thank you :)
[03:08] <Ricesteam> What is this directory for? /dev/disk/by-label
[03:08] <kaot> probably get knocked offline in the process, but what the heck.  no guts no glory.
[03:08] <jman888_> Greatmetal, Yeah but i need to download it. Oh well my sister still likes the brown theme.
[03:08] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: I think that u don't need to look at xorg.conf
[03:08] <jman888_>  How can i make the drive stuff gets installed to when i apt-get change(The normal drive is full 90% (And its a 4gb drive)
[03:08] <kaot> I'll be back, eventually.  :\
[03:08] <BlueEagle> viator: I don't but I do appreciate that some people might. I really don't find words like f**k or p***y or the likes offensive either. But there are kids (and over-protective parents) that might and in most cases those words are really not neccessary to convey your thoughts so please keep it family friendly.
[03:08] <Greatmetal> okay
[03:08] <eigenlambda> so... how am i supposed to configure my synaptics touchpad?
[03:08] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: 1680x1050 isnt listed in the options for screen reso in the preferences menu
[03:08] <Greatmetal> i need a screen recorder
[03:08] <eigenlambda> (standard ubuntu gnome)
[03:08] <cafuego> jman888_: 'sudo apt-get (auto)clean' will clear the cache.
[03:09] <zptao> Is there a way I can use my printer (HP Deskjet 3930) on ubuntu?
[03:09] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: ok
[03:09] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: so how do i make it an option?
[03:09] <NewtoUbuntu> eigenlambda:  give me a sec and i can look
[03:09] <orbin> Greatmetal: istanbul maybe
[03:09] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: search for "screen" in the file
[03:09] <Don_jr> cafuego is this all I'll need? or do I need anything else to make the ndiswrapper work?
[03:09] <Jamminpotato> already there
[03:09] <Greatmetal> :orbin the place or software?
[03:09] <viator> whatever
[03:09] <Greatmetal> joking
[03:09] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: there will be a list of resolutions, no ?
[03:09] <cafuego> Don_jr: Just the ndiswrapper utils and module, but they should be installed already.
[03:09] <jman888_> cafuego, Yeah but how do i set the Drive Ubuntu downloads stuff to /hd2
[03:10] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: yea i tried adding myne but i didnt see a change
[03:10] <cafuego> jman888_: You cna make /var/cache/apt/archives a symlink that points at whereever.
[03:10] <Don_jr> okay and what is the name of the text editorI can use to add mrv8k to the blacklist?
[03:10] <cafuego> Don_jr: nano is probably easiest.
[03:10] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: thats wierd i clsoed it and reopened it and it didnt save
[03:10] <Greatmetal> :orbin thanks alot
[03:11] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: are you using nano ?
[03:11] <etzerd> Hello all
[03:11] <etzerd> ?
[03:11] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: gedit
[03:11] <Pseudohead> BlueEagle: That worked. Do you have any idea why the new of the two kernels wouldn't detect a wireless modem that was automatically detected in the older one?
[03:11] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: should i use nano?
[03:11] <zptao> Is there a way I can use my printer (HP Deskjet 3930) on ubuntu?
[03:12] <Don_jr> catfuego Okay, mrv8k is blacklisted and the CD with the NT.sys and the .INF files are in, what's next?
[03:12] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: ok, you have to open it as root... try ALT+F2 and tape gtksudo gedit location_of_the_file
[03:12] <eigenlambda> zptao: try plugging it in... it might Just Work
[03:12] <Jamminpotato> ok
[03:12] <St0n3-C0l> how do u go in level1 ?
[03:12] <St0n3-C0l> is it safe to use hdparm ?
[03:12] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: I mean gksudo gedit ...
[03:12] <zptao> eigenlambda: it doesn't Just Work
[03:12] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: not gtksudo...
[03:12] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: do you recommend nano over gedit in the future
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> how do u go in level1 ?
[03:13] <BlueEagle> pseudohead: No I do not. You might need to reinstall ndiswrapper or what ever driver you were using as they might need to have a kernel module compiled against the kernel you are using.
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> is it safe to use hdparm ?
[03:13] <BlueEagle> pseudohead: (that goes for all drivers tbh, not just wireless)
[03:13] <bagoor> Resizing the ReiserFS partitions will be safe ?
[03:13] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to change my screen resolution from 1024 X 728 to 1280 X 768?
[03:13] <jman888_> How can i change Ubuntu's Defult Drive? To /hd2? (My Normal drive is too full.
[03:13] <orbin> zptao: you're in luck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[03:13] <Greatmetal> ubuntu ubuntu
[03:13] <Greatmetal> i love me ubuntu
[03:13] <_rich> i am using x86-64 dapper and the system is having problems finding libncurses on a program that is library dependent on it. i do have libncurses installed and ldconfig finds it when i print the cache. however, ldd output can not find libncurses. any ideas?
[03:14] <etzerd> the highest resolutiondisplay now is 1024 X 768
[03:14] <phobic> anyone know how to fix scorched3d if the fonts are jacked??
[03:14] <orbin> etzerd: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <Don_jr> cafuego CD with the files is in the ubuntu box and mrv8k is blacklisted, what's next?
[03:14] <St0n3-C0l> anyone will please reply me ? how do u jump in to level1 ? and is it safe to use hdparm ?
[03:14] <Greatmetal> i got my live cd in the mail
[03:14] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: well, if you are not used to terminal... use gedit... the problem is not about the application but you have to edit the file as a 'root'
[03:14] <vblanton> yo nick!
[03:15] <Greatmetal> if i order 500 live cds will they all be free?
[03:15] <aneglus> Jamminpotato: do u know what root mean ?
[03:15] <x81> i jst switched from suse 10.1. and the only thing i really wanted from it is it's cool boot splash. is there any way i could get a cool boot splash in ubuntu?
[03:15] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: yes
[03:15] <__mikem> YEs they will
[03:15] <vblanton> NickGarvey:
[03:15] <kitche> St0n3-C01: what do you mean level1
[03:15] <Greatmetal> cool!!
[03:15] <jman888_> Greatmetal, They wont send them.
[03:15] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: so does nano run in terminal?
[03:15] <jman888_> Greatmetal, Probally
[03:15] <St0n3-C0l> kitche: run level 1
[03:15] <Greatmetal> lol
[03:15] <Greatmetal> give them to everyone
[03:15] <kitche> St0n3-C01: do you mean init 1
[03:15] <St0n3-C0l> yup
[03:15] <viator> etzerd is it under system>prefrences>screenresolution?
[03:15] <St0n3-C0l> right..
[03:15] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[03:15] <jman888_> Greatmetal, Unless you acctually have a reason for that many(When you order so many they make you explain why)
[03:16] <St0n3-C0l> i forgot all these commands...
[03:16] <jman888_> And again.  How can i make the drive stuff gets installed to when i apt-get change(The normal drive is full 90% (And its a 4gb drive)
[03:16] <kitche> St0n3-C01: anyways that's how you do it or you could do inittab 1
[03:16] <St0n3-C0l> kitche: another question...is it safe to use hdparm ?
[03:16] <jman888_> I need to have my ubuntu automatic drive to be /hd2
[03:16] <AWOSDev> eigenlambda: re: touchpad: You don't have to configure it -- what are you trying to do?
[03:16] <Jamminpotato> aneglus: to make those changes go in to effect will i have to just save the xorg or do i need to restart x
[03:16] <x81> is there any way i could change the boot splash in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:16] <kitche> St0n3-C01: it's as safe
[03:16] <eigenlambda> i want horizontal scrolling to work
[03:16] <bmonkey> hi
[03:16] <eigenlambda> windows had a nice graphical configuration utility
[03:17] <St0n3-C0l> kitche: Thank you buddy :)
[03:17] <eigenlambda> !caps
[03:17] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:17] <aneglus> aneglus: save and restart xorg... with the shortcur ALT+DEL+BACKSPACE I think
[03:17] <St0n3-C0l> Takecare :)
[03:17] <bmonkey> i get this error: [02:25]  *** "mass2k" signed off at Fri Aug 25 02:25:07 2006.
[03:17] <bmonkey> [02:25]  *** "mass2k" signed on at Fri Aug 25 02:25:09 2006.
[03:17] <Jamminpotato> x81: if you have the o'rielly ubuntu hacks its in there, somewhere so its possible
[03:17] <Don_jr> cafuego still there?
[03:17] <AWOSDev> eigenlambda, I just scrolled through my IRC chat log with my Synaptics Touchpad -- what model laptop do you have?
[03:18] <cafuego> Don_jr: I am; just writing a wiki page for the mrv8k.
[03:18] <jman888_> jamesstansell, I have my defult ubuntu drive nearly full and i want to change where ubuntu saves and installs things to /hd2
[03:18] <AWOSDev> aneglus: It's actually CTRL+ALT+BKSP
[03:18] <viator> anyone know what this means ? ./configure: line 344: test: =: unary operator expected
[03:18] <bmonkey> i get this error: ubuntu System exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0  nautilus can not start because of the module "bonobo-activation". i have a ppc
[03:18] <Don_jr> cafuego okay
[03:18] <viator> i have kernel headers and source
[03:18] <Don_jr> cafuego is it that complicated?? lol this is my first nix system hope it's not bad
[03:18] <viator> to match mine
[03:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: ok, well, I've got good news and bad news.
[03:18] <AWOSDev> kaot: uh oh
[03:19] <cafuego> don_jr: Not at all, but that way I cna point any others with the same question at the wiki page :-)
[03:19] <x81> jamminpotato: have u ever thought of changing it too? i mean have u ever thought that the boot splash is kinda lame?
[03:19] <Don_jr> cafuego okay, I'll wait patiently and let me know when you are done
[03:19] <kaot> AWOSDev: the good news is, setting up wep was pretty simple.  the bad news is as far as I can tell that doesn't cause problems choosing ESSID
[03:19] <kaot> AWOSDev: altho nowthat I think about it I didn't test that very well.
[03:19] <cafuego> don_jr: After editing the blacklist, run 'sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf'
[03:19] <eigenlambda> AWOSDev: dunno how to find that out
[03:19] <eigenlambda> AWOSDev: lsps2?
[03:19] <Jamminpotato> x81: kinda, right now im just starting with ubuntu so im still getting my ntfs drive mounted and my screen at the right reso so, one day
[03:19] <__mikem> jman888_ what help do you mean
[03:20] <AWOSDev> eigenlamba: Compaq?  HP?  Gateway?  Acer?
[03:20] <jamesstansell> jman888_: how many partitions do you have on the full drive?
[03:20] <eigenlambda> compaq v2000
[03:20] <viator> cafuego does canonical pay you
[03:20] <aneglus> AWOSDev: yeah :)
[03:20] <cafuego> viator: nope
[03:20] <viator> they ought to
[03:20] <aneglus> AWOSDev: it's really dark here :)
[03:20] <AWOSDev> eigenlambda: That's what I was asking, the model of the laptop :)
[03:20] <viator> your in here all the time
[03:20] <x81> yah, even the ubuntu logo seems a bit blurry
[03:20] <sethk> jman888_, it's easy.  you just move a big piece over to /hd2, then mount it.
[03:20] <AWOSDev> kaot: What do you mean the bad news is it *doesn't* cause problems
[03:20] <Don_jr> cafuego will that get it from the CD? or do I need to copy it onto my HD somewhere?
[03:20] <jman888_> jamesstansell, 1 (Linux) But my previous windows drive has been reformatted and i want to know how to tell ubuntu to use that instead
[03:20] <sethk> jman888_, for example, say you want to move /usr
[03:21] <AWOSDev> jman888_ just get GParted
[03:21] <looktj> GRR I DONT KNOW HOW TO INSTALL PROFTPD, IS THE WORST SUPPORT EVER?
[03:21] <Greatmetal> its on the live cd
[03:21] <cafuego> don_jr: You cna run that command from the cd directory.
[03:21] <kaot> AWOSDev: well, it'd be nice if I could say, "Yeh the reason iwconfig says no essid is because of this simple wep thing"
[03:21] <sethk> jman888_, you do:  cd /hd2; sudo cp -av /usr/. .
[03:21] <cafuego> looktj: You cna always pay canonical to help you.
[03:21] <nickd2> Is there a bug in ubuntu-minimal in the amd64 installer? I have tried both alternate and server and the installation simply stops on configruing ubuntu-minimal. THere is nothing in the syslog to help either
[03:21] <sethk> jman888_, then, on /, you do:   sudo rm -fr /usr
[03:21] <kaot> AWOSDev: but for the heck of it we'll try anyway.  open up system->administration-> network and plug in your stuff
[03:21] <__mikem> !caps > looktj
[03:21] <kitche> looktj: are you trying from source or package?
[03:21] <sethk> jman888_, then you do:  mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /usr
[03:21] <Don_jr> cafuego.... I feel like a tard...how do I get into the cd directory in the terminal?
[03:21] <sethk> jman888_, forgot, you have to:  sudo mkdir /usr    first, because we erased it
[03:22] <sethk> jman888_, ok?
[03:22] <looktj> im trying from tar.gz
[03:22] <__mikem> sudo rm -fri /usr is safer
[03:22] <nickd2> what could cause ubuntu-minimal to hang in the installer? the only thing I see in syslog are shadow password erros
[03:22] <BSG75> anyone know howto get ndiswrapper working under dapper?
[03:22] <sethk> __mikem, not deleting at all is even safer.  :)
[03:22] <NewtoUbuntu> hey guys
[03:22] <sethk> __mikem, but I use zsh, and it has a confirmation feature for dangerous deletes
[03:22] <cafuego> don_jr: cd /media/cdrom  (probably)
[03:22] <AWOSDev> BSG75, "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils"
[03:22] <kitche> looktj: did you untar the tar.gz
[03:22] <bmonkey> i cant start gnome because of "bonono-activation". i have a ppc. what should i doo??
[03:22] <sean> can anyone help me?
[03:22] <jman888_> sethk, Ok so i delete it ? Wont that mess something up..
[03:23] <Don_jr> cafuego yep, that did it
[03:23] <sean> something is wrong with my X i think
[03:23] <sethk> jman888_, you copy it first
[03:23] <looktj> yes
[03:23] <majd> hey
[03:23] <sean> i just tried to ./configure conky and at the end it said
[03:23] <looktj> on my desktop kitche
[03:23] <eigenlambda> ya so, how to enable horizontal scrolling?
[03:23] <majd> how do i change what session to login with in command line login?
[03:23] <BSG75> AWOSDev: done that over and over .. it doesn't create a wlan0 it tries to do eth0 or eth1 .. either way .. it doesn't work :(
[03:23] <sethk> jman888_, so yes, you delete it, but _after_ you copy it.
[03:23] <Don_jr> cafuego ndiswrapper command not found
[03:23] <sean> checking for X... no
[03:23] <sean> checking for XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext... no
[03:23] <sean> configure: error: something went wrong when checking for Xdbe (double buffer extension)
[03:23] <jamesstansell> sethk: does he need to be in single-user mode for a systems directory like /usr?
[03:23] <sean> sean@Berserk:~/Desktop/conky-1.4.2$ make
[03:23] <NewtoUbuntu> I need help getting my totem player to play dvds, it says the necessary plugins arent installed will some1 tell me what the plugins are and how to install them thro the command line?
[03:23] <sean> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:23] <cafuego> don_jr: Crap!
[03:23] <sean> :/
[03:23] <sethk> jman888_, if you like, I have a program that compares directory trees.
[03:23] <kitche> looktj: well did you cd into that directory it made?
[03:23] <looktj> yes
[03:23] <jamesstansell> !dvd
[03:23] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:23] <sethk> jamesstansell, in this direction, no, because he isn't unmounting anything.
[03:23] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu go to the Wiki under "RestrictedFormats"
[03:23] <wolfmanz> How do i get my ATI drover working again after downgrading xorg?
[03:23] <x81> what's a display manager?
[03:23] <kitche> and what's in there a configure file?
[03:24] <BSG75> I got the bcm43xx to work once with gnome-network but I think something is interfering with it when I reboot
[03:24] <looktj> ./configer?
[03:24] <sethk> jamesstansell, during the period between the cp and the mount, yes, there is a bit of exposure, but if nothing else is running he's ok
[03:24] <Don_jr> that should come with the text install of dapper shouldn't it?
[03:24] <looktj> configure*
[03:24] <kitche> looktj: is there a configure file
[03:24] <BSG75> anyone know how to get rid of the default network manager in dapper?
[03:24] <jman888_> sethk, I will just save all my documents to my other drive. And will have to clean after doing apt. I just wish it could be reconfigured. Oh well (Ill go to ubuntuforums thought.
[03:24] <looktj> yes
[03:24] <kitche> looktj: if there is one just do ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:24] <sethk> jman888_, I just told you exactly how to reconfigure it.
[03:24] <xnull> heya anybody using edgy ? ( i was wondering if I could install a older kernel.. cuz 2.6.17.6 it's not working thanks)
[03:24] <sethk> jman888_, in a few easy steps.
[03:25] <looktj> sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr?
[03:25] <kitche> looktj no just ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:25] <jamesstansell> jman888_: if you have very much space be used by /home it might be a better place to start for moving to hd2
[03:25] <crimsun> knapper: you can use any kernel you want; you just need to be aware how it interacts with other system software components.
[03:25] <DanaG> I wanna go the other way around.
[03:25] <kitche> don't need suo yet looktj
[03:25] <crimsun> knapper: sorry
[03:25] <sean> can someone help me
[03:25] <crimsun> xnull: you can use any kernel you want; you just need to be aware how it interacts with other system software components.
[03:25] <DanaG> I wanna install JUST the ALSA from Edgy -- I tried whole edgy, but it was too crashy.
[03:25] <sethk> jamesstansell, that's true, I was using /usr as an example, but the concept is general
[03:25] <sean> if they want to read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1418855&postcount=10
[03:25] <Don_jr> cafuego is this going to be complicated to fix?
[03:26] <crimsun> DanaG: you can't; we use a different toolchain.
[03:26] <looktj> kitche: now what?
[03:26] <knapper> O_o
[03:26] <sethk> it's so simple, I'm not sure why he didn't get it.  I guess I wasn't clear.
[03:26] <crimsun> DanaG: either recompile edgy's source packages in a dapper pbuilder, or just wait
[03:26] <kitche> looktj: make
[03:26] <xnull> crimsun, it's something wrong with the new one.. when he boots is fuc9king usplash and i got some big fonts
[03:26] <crimsun> DanaG: why do you want edgy's "alsa" anyway?
[03:26] <nickd2> why would ubuntu-minimal hang in install?
[03:27] <looktj> k doing
[03:27] <AWOSDev> kaout: Didn't work
[03:27] <DanaG> It fixed multichannel audio on my Notebook Audigy.
[03:27] <NewtoUbuntu> i attempted to install the libvdread3 on the link u guys just gave me however the terminal says command not found when i type: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh will some1 tell me why this and how to fix it?
[03:27] <kitche> looktj: now sudo make install
[03:27] <AWOSDev> kaot: Didn't work
[03:27] <crimsun> DanaG: what specifically?
[03:27] <sethk> nickd2, you can ask the same question all day.  without more information, nobody is going to tell you.
[03:27] <sethk> nickd2, there are a million possible reasons.
[03:27] <thomasB> hey, natulius isn't working for me, are there any other FTP clients for ubuntu?
[03:27] <kitche> looktj: now proftpd is installed
[03:27] <DanaG> I guess perhaps I can wait.
[03:27] <AWOSDev> thomasB: try typing "ftp" into a Terminal :)
[03:27] <nickd2> sethk: can you point me in some direction. I have tried multiple cd's, multiple drives, and ram
[03:27] <DanaG> Is there any way to estimate the time span?
[03:28] <darksoul_> How would i go about combining 2 wine commands?
[03:28] <crimsun> DanaG: unless you need a specific pcm feature from edgy's alsa-lib, dapper's alsa* are actually newer than edgy's.
[03:28] <sethk> nickd2, where, exactly, does it hang?
[03:28] <xnull> crimsun, any ideea how can I install on 2.6.15-25-k7 restricted modules ?
[03:28] <bmonkey> i cant start gnome because of "bonono-activation". i have a ppc. what should i doo?? how can i quit bonobo-activation?
[03:28] <wolfmanz> How do i get my ATI drover working again after downgrading xorg?
[03:28] <crimsun> xnull: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7
[03:28] <vblanton> wolfmanz: simply follow the instructions again!
[03:28] <DanaG> What's the current Dapper ALSA?
[03:28] <xnull> crimsun, Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7 has no installation candidate
[03:28] <sethk> bmonkey, you don't want to quit it, it's an integral part of gnome.  are you sure it's installed?
[03:28] <darksoul_> how would i go about making WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" wine Steam and nice -n -20 wine "Steam.exe" work together?
[03:28] <crimsun> DanaG: for which chipset?
[03:28] <tyler_d> help to install a codec for playing rmvb using movie player or Gxine please??
[03:28] <DanaG> I ned 1.0.11 or  whatever it was.
[03:28] <xnull> crimsun, i tried that before..
[03:28] <thomasB> AWOSDev, that doesn't help me :) i'm almost completely reliant on GUI to do anything
[03:29] <DanaG> lemme look up on alsa-project.org.
[03:29] <xnull> crimsun, any ideea xorg 7.1.1 is working with ati drivers ?
[03:29] <vblanton> DanaG: there is a package search :)
[03:29] <kitche> looktj: did it work ok
[03:29] <bmonkey> sethk: yes, my system was running, i think i didnt change anything, and know i cant start x. nautilus say, i should quit the module
[03:29] <sethk> thomasB, go ahead.  type three letters and hit enter, it doesn't hurt.  :)
[03:29] <kaot> lol
[03:29] <kaot> that was... non-graceful.
[03:29] <crimsun> DanaG: for the emu10k1, alsa-kernel is 1.0.12; alsa-lib is 1.0.10 + lots of backports from .11 and .12
[03:29] <AWOSDev> thomasB: not that hard.  just type "ftp ftp.whatever.com" then you just "cd /whatever/directory/you/want" then "bin" then "get whatever"
[03:29] <vblanton> xnull, I haven't heard that it doesn't. I think nvidia was having some issues..
[03:29] <lookt1> kitche: done, now what?
[03:29] <sethk> bmonkey, what does it say?  give me the exact words
[03:29] <crimsun> DanaG: trust me, dapper's emu10k1 driver is newer than edgy's.
[03:30] <kitche> lookt1: that is now installed
[03:30] <DanaG> Hmm, so it's a mix, rather than a fixed version?  That's new to me.
[03:30] <thomasB> AWOSDev, thanks
[03:30] <seanminion> NewtoUbuntu PM
[03:30] <bmonkey> sethk: its in german, i have to translate ;)
[03:30] <lookt1> k thanks
[03:30] <DanaG> I haven't seen things done that way, but I guess it makes sense.
[03:30] <kaot> AWOSDev: well now that I've un-oopsed myself... did you try setting that up via network manager?
[03:30] <xnull> vblanton, great then any ideea how could  I install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7 ?
[03:30] <lookt1> very much
[03:30] <DanaG> Thanks.
[03:30] <crimsun> DanaG: I can only backport so much that makes sense.
[03:30] <sethk> bmonkey, ok, but make it a literal translation
[03:30] <kitche> lookt1 no problem I know if you don't build from source a lot it cna be confusing
[03:30] <nickd2> is there anything i can do in the installer shell to troubleshoot ubuntu-minimal?
[03:30] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes I did
[03:30] <NewtoUbuntu> what would typing sudo rm -rf / do?
[03:30] <AWOSDev> kaot: still doesn't work :(
[03:30] <bmonkey> sethk: System exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[03:30] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: DON'T DO IT!
[03:30] <kaot> AWOSDev: what happened?  just kind of spun for a little while?
[03:31] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: That erases your whole hard disk
[03:31] <vblanton> NewtoUbuntu: bad
[03:31] <kitche> lookt1: you don't have a script for it so it doesn't start at bootup but it's in /usr/bin
[03:31] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[03:31] <lookt1> kitche: wait where the config file?
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> Damn u stupid asshole seanminion!!
[03:31] <sethk> bmonkey, ok, the CORBA registration failed.  Usually that means that the CORBA component isn't running
[03:31] <vblanton> NewtoUbuntu: erase your entire drive
[03:31] <DanaG> Right now I'm dd'ing back a dd'd backup of my dapper partition that I made before I went to Edgy.
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> sorry for the language
[03:31] <kaot> AWOSDev: hm.  you use ascii password or hex key?
[03:31] <lookt1> proftpd.conf or something
[03:31] <AWOSDev> kaot: hex
[03:31] <kitche> lookt1: it might be in /etc
[03:31] <sethk> NewtoUbuntu, it would distroy your entire system
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> seanminion is attempting to get me to do this...
[03:31] <wolfmanz> vblanton: what instructions?
[03:31] <kitche> lookt1: or it might be in /usr someplace
[03:31] <bmonkey> sethk: how can i fix this?
[03:31] <sethk> NewtoUbuntu, that's not someone in this room, is it?
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> is there a way to have him removed from the channel?
[03:31] <vblanton> NewtoUbuntu: search the ubuntu wiki for ati driver install :)
[03:31] <truz_`24> anyone running xgl that fixed the shift+backspace problem?
[03:31] <kitche> lookt1: but it iwll be in one of those folders
[03:31] <NewtoUbuntu> i think so
[03:31] <AWOSDev> sethk: Yes it is
[03:32] <sethk> NewtoUbuntu, try ops
[03:32] <vblanton> wolfmanz: search the ubuntu wiki for ati driver install :)
[03:32] <NewtoUbuntu> what u mean try ops sethk?
[03:32] <vblanton> wolfmanz: wiki.ubuntu.org
[03:32] <sethk> bmonkey, was it ever working?  I'm wondering whether some things haven't been installed
[03:32] <kaot> AWOSDev: hm.  Seems there's some new, fun wrinkle every time I come across these things.  Something else has to be wrong somewhere.  sudo  iwconfig wlan0 essid (network name) didn't work, and your essid still shows unassociated right?
[03:32] <sethk> NewtoUbuntu, I think it is:
[03:32] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[03:32] <sethk> !ops  someone advising rm -fr /
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops  someone advising rm -fr / - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <lookt1> and to set password?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> sethk: ?
[03:32] <DanaG> Okay, I also have issues with ALSA on my internal snd-hda-intel -- namely, things play but don't make sound.
[03:32] <thomasB> AWOSDev, what's the command to upload?
[03:32] <sethk> damn.  how do we call ops?
[03:32] <seanminion> NewtoUbuntu
[03:32] <tyler_d> codec for rmvb's???
[03:32] <bmonkey> sethk: it was working perfectly. its an old apple g3 laptop, i didnt start it for a couple of days...
[03:32] <seanminion> check your PM i gave to you
[03:33] <NewtoUbuntu> u stupid asshole seanminion
[03:33] <AWOSDev> thomasB: "put whatever"
[03:33] <gnomefreak> sethk: its !ops and im here
[03:33] <wolfmanz> vblanton: is the xorg problem been fixed do they have a new version of xorg to download now?
[03:33] <seanminion> ?
[03:33] <vblanton> wolfmanz: which xorg problem?
[03:33] <sethk> gnomefreak, apparently someone was advising rm -fr /, but perhaps it was just a dumb joke?  However, it's not acceptable in a help channel like this
[03:33] <vblanton> wolfmanz: I think everything is fixed, just update... though I'm not sure what the problem was/is.
[03:33] <NewtoUbuntu> Sorry so much for language
[03:33] <sethk> bmonkey, that's odd.  The connection it is talking about is between two processes running on the same machine, so it should never fail.
[03:33] <wolfmanz> vblanton: .3 caused the desktop not to load
[03:34] <seanminion> ok umm...
[03:34] <NewtoUbuntu> just angered me to know poeple on here would try to get me to do soemthing like that
[03:34] <seanminion> anyways <_<
[03:34] <vblanton> wolfmanz: right, yes. I think there was an update
[03:34] <seanminion> can anyone help me with a conky problem?
[03:34] <sethk> bmonkey, I hate to give this advise, because it usually means "I have no idea how to really fix it", but try rebooting
[03:34] <kaot> AWOSDev: check dmesg, syslog, and /var/log/messages please and see if anything shows up there.  /var/log/debug too.
[03:34] <AWOSDev> thomasB: if it's a text file/HTML file/something like that you want to put "a" then "put whatever"; if it's a binary you want "bin" then "put whatever"
[03:34] <DanaG> Hey, is there any wiki on how to get DHCP client working?  I didn't find the answer anywhere but by experimentation, but I found that DHCP doesn't work unless I have the "hostname" line in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:34] <AWOSDev> kaot: Okay
[03:34] <vblanton> wolfmanz: on the top of the kubuntu channel it says: "Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)"
[03:34] <sethk> bmonkey, I have seen the CORBA component get messed up and rebooting fix it.  Sometimes, though, rebooting doesn't fix it
[03:35] <saiko> sorry, but why ubuntu mount his devices under media by default, not mnt ?
[03:35] <sethk> bmonkey, sometimes there is a special file in the file system (representing a unix domain socket) that has to be cleared up.
[03:35] <bmonkey> sethk: i bootet like 3 times, and started x over and over
[03:35] <Don_jr> is ndiswrapper included in the install of ubuntu?
[03:35] <seanminion> so
[03:35] <nickd2> has anyone succesfully installed amd64 server lately?
[03:35] <seanminion> out of 823 people here, they don't know how to help me
[03:35] <seanminion> >_>
[03:35] <sethk> bmonkey, oh, ok, if once didn't fix it, then 10 times won't fix it either.
[03:35] <bmonkey> ^^
[03:35] <gnomefreak> seanminion: why are you giving people the rm command?
[03:35] <seanminion> ..
[03:35] <seanminion> i'm not
[03:35] <seanminion> >_>
[03:35] <Juhaz> seanminion, why would any one of them WANT to help you after that?
[03:35] <kaot> busted!  lol
[03:35] <bmonkey> bmonkey: maybe i should check my apt dependencies?
[03:35] <thomasB> AWOSDev, a put filename.xml             ??  do i need to put /home/username/filename.xml?
[03:35] <seanminion> if i wanted to give people the rm command
[03:36] <gnomefreak> seanminion: you gave NewtoUbuntu the command to run
[03:36] <seanminion> i'd say it in here
[03:36] <seanminion> o.o
[03:36] <dakker> is there a good RAR app for ubuntu?
[03:36] <cafuego> use tar.bz2 instead
[03:36] <seanminion> RAR app? i use the default one
[03:36] <sethk> bmonkey, can't hurt, but if it was running before, it can't really be an installation issue, unless you did an update that fouled things up.  Did you update between the time it worked and the time it stopped working?
[03:36] <NewtoUbuntu> Can any1 Please inform me on how to have some1 removed from the channel if there is a way possible?
[03:36] <seanminion> aka the one that opens tar.bz's gz's zips, etc
[03:36] <cafuego> Or stop using warez ;-)
[03:36] <dakker> yes
[03:36] <gnomefreak> NewtoUbuntu: who?
[03:36] <vblanton> dakker: install unrar. ubuntu will automatically work with rars :)
[03:36] <vblanton> dakker: use synaptic to install it
[03:36] <NewtoUbuntu> Seanminion
[03:36] <seanminion> wtf did i do
[03:36] <seanminion> !_!
[03:36] <BOBSONATOR> warez=god
[03:37] <Don_jr> cafuego am I going to be able to get ndiswrapper in my box?
[03:37] <dakker> unrar..
[03:37] <AWOSDev> kaot: In /var/log/messages Aug 24 21:25:52 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[03:37] <dakker> i see
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> he told me to type the thing that made me remove all my hardrive
[03:37] <gnomefreak> NewtoUbuntu: what did he do?
[03:37] <bmonkey> sethk: i did nothing on the system.. maybe its an hardware issue
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> he pmed me it
[03:37] <dakker> as good as rar?
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> i swear
[03:37] <AWOSDev> kaot; Aug 24 21:20:27 localhost kernel: [4298344.306000]  eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[03:37] <seanminion> uhh.. no
[03:37] <BOBSONATOR> Who told you that?
[03:37] <sethk> bmonkey, no, that can't be caused by hardware
[03:37] <BOBSONATOR> Thats fucked up.
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> yes he did..
[03:37] <kaot> AWOSDev: yeah we can skip the ipv6 stuff
[03:37] <daniele> ciao
[03:37] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak: NewtoUbuntu said that seanminion told him to run rm -rf /
[03:37] <vblanton> dakker ?
[03:37] <NewtoUbuntu> thanku
[03:37] <gnomefreak> BOBSONATOR: watch your language
[03:37] <cafuego> don_jr: Yeah, probably... downlaod & copy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils_1.8-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[03:37] <BOBSONATOR> sorry
[03:37] <vblanton> dakker what do you mean as good as rar. it is rar.
[03:37] <dakker> thanks vblAnton
[03:38] <fer> hi everybody
[03:38] <viator> ubuntu /oss is your savior
[03:38] <viator> from warez
[03:38] <viator> 1
[03:38] <vblanton> bye all
[03:38] <AWOSDev> kaot: So what about the DHCPDISCOVER?
[03:38] <thomasB> AWOSDev, i'm doing something wrong.  i get   local: put remote: [whatever i type in]   local: put: no such file or directory
[03:39] <BOBSONATOR> is there any way to make my IRC transparent?
[03:39] <AWOSDev> I'm assuming it's supposed to be to 255.255.255.255
[03:39] <viator> if its xchat you can make it transparent
[03:39] <viator> its in the config
[03:39] <BOBSONATOR> i have XCHAT,
[03:39] <bmonkey> sethk: translation: A Problem while registering Bonobo-Activation-Server happened. Error numer 3. The panel will quit now.
[03:39] <sethk> bmonkey what I would do to track that down is to run the nautilus process under strace to see why it fails, but unless you are a super geek type, you won't be able to interpret the results.
[03:39] <BOBSONATOR> where is that?
[03:39] <sethk> bmonkey, ah, ok
[03:39] <kaot> AWOSDev: yeah that's working as it should, and is basically expected to be there.
[03:39] <kaot> AWOSDev: I was looking more for some sign of a failure
[03:39] <sethk> bmonkey, registration is failing.
[03:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: well, or not working, butit's not working the way it's supposed to be not working
[03:40] <kaot> is what I mean to say.
[03:40] <sethk> bmonkey, what is happening there is that the activation server registers itself, and then various applications that need to contact the activation server can reach it.
[03:40] <bmonkey> sethk: so what can i do? and why is that happening?
[03:40] <sethk> bmonkey, when it can't register, the underlying CORBA bus has a problem, and those are difficult to track down unless you know a lot about how the networking works
[03:41] <kaot> I think I"ve blown my dhcp server's little mind with that stunt.  Sigh.  Time to make with some more fixing.
[03:41] <AWOSDev> thomasB: ftp> put messages                   local: messages remote: messages           .....                   290894 bytes sent in 0.02 secs (13367.0 kB/s)
[03:41] <sethk> bmonkey, either something that needs to be running, isn't, or a resource that is needed was left around and isn't being cleaned up.
[03:41] <bmonkey> sethk: is there a simple solution without data loss?
[03:41] <sethk> bmonkey, oh, yes
[03:41] <sethk> bmonkey, the problem isn't related to any specific data
[03:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: You screwed up your DHCP server enabling WEP?
[03:41] <nbjayme> hello all :)  i've a problem with printing from win2k to a linux box with hp deskjet 3740.  the printout is in reverse direction.
[03:41] <sethk> bmonkey, nothing has been lost, so you don't need to worry about that.
[03:41] <NewtoUbuntu> Are the codecs for Gstreamer on totem legal in the United states?
[03:42] <nbjayme> how to solve this? :(
[03:42] <sethk> bmonkey, let me see if I can come up with a strategy to track it down.
[03:42] <sethk> bmonkey, I'll have to read the gnome source code, so it will take a while.
[03:42] <AWOSDev> nbjayme: you mean the pages come out like 4, 3, 2, 1
[03:42] <eletido> NewtoUbuntu: i dont think.
[03:42] <bmonkey> sethk: k, that would be great
[03:42] <thomasB> AWOSDev, i'm sorry for being so worthless but i don't understand what you just said
[03:42] <eletido> NewtoUbuntu: i dont think so.
[03:42] <sethk> bmonkey, no guarantees that I'll find it, but I'll try.
[03:42] <AWOSDev> thomasB: that was my ftp output
[03:42] <NewtoUbuntu> hmm darn
[03:42] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[03:42] <AWOSDev> thomasB: just type "put filename"
[03:42] <AWOSDev> thomasB: nothing more
[03:42] <AWOSDev> thomasB: see if that works
[03:42] <NewtoUbuntu> thanks eletido
[03:43] <xnull> crimsun, any ideea: I'm trying to start X I loaded fglrx module and I got err.. no driver is loaded something like this
[03:43] <eletido> np NewtoUbuntu
[03:43] <gnomefreak> is there an easy way to unblurr a picture?
[03:43] <AWOSDev> nbjayme: so the pages come out last to first?  is that what you mean?
[03:43] <thomasB> AWOSDev, 200 PORT command successful
[03:43] <thomasB> 150 Connecting to port 50884
[03:43] <thomasB>                    then stalls.  just like using nautilus :(
[03:43] <GameOver69> hey guys i cant install libtunepimp3-mp3... this is the error i get any idea how i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21607
[03:43] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak: Take the picture better :P
[03:43] <AWOSDev> thomasB: hmm
[03:44] <BOBSONATOR> do you guys use gnutella?
[03:44] <NewtoUbuntu> is this the only way to get dvds to play on my totem player? to install the codecs for Gstreamer?
[03:44] <AWOSDev> thomasB: I get 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.                                150 Ok to send data.                              226 File receive OK.
[03:44] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: cant she used a cell to do it. it was a sneak picture
[03:44] <nbjayme> AWOSDev: left to right.  like when you place the paper in front of mirror you can read it.
[03:44] <AWOSDev> nbjayme: Freaky.  is the driver installed correctly?
[03:44] <Don_jr> cafuego how do I install the ndiswrapper now?
[03:44] <NewtoUbuntu> gnomefreak i think i read something about this is in the wiki, look in the inex of the wiki
[03:44] <saiko> gnomefreak: sharpen it ?
[03:44] <kaot> AWOSDev: I sort of did a little, only because I didn't gracefully shutdown networking
[03:44] <nickd2> what sort of hardware problem could cause ubuntu-minimal to hang during installation???
[03:45] <dave> I'm looking for a console email client.  I'm thinking pine or mutt.  Does anyone have any advice/recommendation?
[03:45] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[03:45] <NewtoUbuntu> index* gnomefreak
[03:45] <xnull> http://pastebin.ca/148322 any ideea ?
[03:45] <nbjayme> AWOSdev: yes! i can print in local box with no problem. but from win2k it produces this weird result.
[03:45] <gnomefreak> gonna try gimpy see if we cant screw with it ;)
[03:45] <wolfmanz> how do you get the version number for xorg?
[03:45] <kaot> AWOSDev: I wound up with two competing versions of dhclient running.  Also I never finished some configurations on the server that I thought I had.
[03:45] <lookt1> how do i set users/passwords with proftpd
[03:45] <AWOSDev> kaot: Oopsy :)
[03:45] <kaot> AWOSDev: oopsy indeed!
[03:45] <viator> delete usr/lib/libtunepimp.so.3.0.0
[03:45] <AWOSDev> lookt1: with useradd/passwd
[03:45] <Don_jr> AWOSDev thanx
[03:45] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey guys is there a way to get my totem dvd player play dvds without installing the codecs for Gstreamer?
[03:45] <AWOSDev> Don_jr no problem
[03:45] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: apt-cache policy xorg   unless you want the version of X you have than its x -version
[03:46] <lookt1> awosdev where in config file?
[03:46] <AWOSDev> lookt1: On the terminal
[03:46] <BOBSONATOR> Can someone help my with WMV' codecs?, i installed them properly and updated them, i just cannot get them to work in TOTEM...
[03:46] <Don_jr> how do I look and make sure that mrv8k didn't load? what command in the terminal please?
[03:46] <AWOSDev> lookt1: I'm 99% sure you probably have it set to use standard users
[03:46] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: lsmod
[03:46] <Don_jr> thanx again
[03:47] <nickd2> can i manually interrupt and restar debootstrap during installation?
[03:47] <kaot> alrighty.  One more reconnect and I should be done.  brb.
[03:47] <viator> yeah install libdvdcss
[03:47] <AWOSDev> lookt1: so just type "useradd whatever-username-you-want"
[03:47] <wolfmanz> gnomefreak: this is the error i'm getting W: Unable to locate package xorg
[03:48] <viator> dvds you need libdvdcss2
[03:48] <AWOSDev> lookt1: then type "sudo passwd the-name"
[03:48] <NewtoUbuntu> any1 here use a totem dvd player in the united states that properly plays dvds without codecs?
[03:48] <BOBSONATOR> Can someone help my with WMV' codecs?, i installed them properly and updated them, i just cannot get them to work in TOTEM...
[03:48] <crimsun> xnull: running dapper?
[03:48] <nbjayme> AWOSDEv: it's like using another driver in win2k did the job.  HP11600
[03:48] <xnull> crimsun, yes
[03:48] <NewtoUbuntu> ok viator is libdvdcss2 is that legal int he United states?
[03:48] <crimsun> xnull: dpkg -l xserver-xorg|awk '{ print $3 }'
[03:48] <AWOSDev> nbjayme: That's what I thought, the W2K driver was bad
[03:48] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: what are you trying to do?
[03:48] <thomasB> AWOSDev, gftp does the same thing (stalls) got any suggestions on where to go?
[03:48] <viator> yes
[03:48] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks
[03:48] <AWOSDev> thomasB: Sounds like a server problem, not your problem
[03:49] <xnull> crimsun,  (Status,Err:
[03:49] <xnull> Version
[03:49] <xnull> 7.0.22ubuntu7
[03:49] <AWOSDev> thomasB: unless of course that's your server :)
[03:49] <lookt1> AWOSDev: im pretty new to proftpd
[03:49] <AWOSDev> thomasB: have you tried Firefox?
[03:49] <kaot> woo.  fixicated.
[03:49] <AWOSDev> kaot: Good :)
[03:49] <xnull> crimsun,  any ideea?
[03:49] <BOBSONATOR>  Can someone please help me with WMV' codecs?, i installed them properly and updated them, i just cannot get them to work in TOTEM...
[03:49] <thomasB> AWOSDev, yeah, i know it's something on my end, my laptop can connect and transfer fine
[03:49] <Don_jr> anyone know why it might be that after I put in a CD it won't let me open the CD rom again to change CD's?
[03:49] <Justaway> Is the radeon 7000/radeon X driver capable of transparency in Ubuntu?
[03:49] <viator> BOBSONATOR sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:49] <crimsun> xnull: that's edgy, not dapper.
[03:49] <NewtoUbuntu> When i got to install that viator by typing in sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh i get errors like command not found
[03:50] <xnull> crimsun,aaa yes sorry
[03:50] <NewtoUbuntu> viator would that work for me 2?
[03:50] <NewtoUbuntu> im trying to get dvds working with totem also
[03:50] <BOBSONATOR> viator, did you get that message.
[03:50] <viator> thats for theings like wmv and other codecds to play certain media
[03:50] <BOBSONATOR> huh?
[03:51] <AWOSDev> Doesn't anybody read the
[03:51] <AWOSDev> !wiki
[03:51] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:51] <AWOSDev> anymore?
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> It just doenst work...
[03:51] <wolfmanz> gnomefreak: see the version number to see what i have becasue i'm not getting any updates at all that are related to xorg and i'm pretty shure i dont have the lastest version of xorg
[03:51] <kaot> AWOSDev: you read the wiki.  where'd that get you?
[03:51] <BOBSONATOR> Do i need a new media player?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: do you have a gui?
[03:52] <viator> NewtoUbuntu do sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[03:52] <AWOSDev> kaot: Got me to the point where Ubuntu actually said I have a WiFi card.
[03:52] <wolfmanz> gnomefreak: yes
[03:52] <AWOSDev> :)
[03:52] <nickd2> is anyone running amd64?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: try xserver-xorg
[03:52] <profoZ> I installed kubuntu-desktop to try KDE again -- I try to go back into GNOME -- and my theme is all wrong and I can't open many applications anymore -- not even the terminal or xchat -- and sometimes it just hangs
[03:52] <kaot> lol.. that was uncalled for anyway.
[03:52] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[03:52] <NewtoUbuntu> Viator do i want libdvdcss2 or do i want libdvdread3?
[03:52] <fiveiron> ok, so i don't get why if I have a logitech quickcam express that is detected in my device manager, and has a video device listed under it in the device manager which is v4l capable... why can I not see it with a v4l program?
[03:52] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: which codecs did you install?
[03:52] <Don_jr> anyone know why it might be that after I put in a CD it won't let me open the CD rom again to change CD's?
[03:53] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: libdvdcss2 more than likely
[03:53] <wolfmanz> gnomefreak: command not found
[03:53] <BOBSONATOR> the WMV ones, on ubuntu website and the wiki..
[03:53] <BOBSONATOR> orbin^
[03:53] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[03:53] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: as in w32codecs?
[03:53] <lookt1> AWOSDev: it has users like nobody and ftp
[03:53] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: Yes.
[03:53] <lookt1> in the config
[03:53] <viator> thay are the same
[03:53] <viator> thing basicaly
[03:53] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: which player? totem?
[03:53] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: yes
[03:53] <viator> im not sure which one is newest in repos
[03:53] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: totem-xine?
[03:53] <NewtoUbuntu> im at https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html and its telling me i need libdvdread3 but does either one work?
[03:54] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: i thkn so, the one that came with ubuntu
[03:54] <wolfmanz> gnomefreak: thats given me version 7.0 and thats not the version i want to check
[03:54] <viator> yes they both do for me
[03:54] <viator> go by the howto if you want
[03:54] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: default uses the gstreamer engine ...try installing totem-xine to use the xine engine
[03:54] <gnomefreak> wolfmanz: what do you want to check. i dont understand what you are asking.
[03:54] <NewtoUbuntu> well thats not working for me thats why i came to the support channel for ubuntu
[03:54] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: is there an apt-get command for that?
[03:55] <viator> gstreamer engine seems buggy to me
[03:55] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:55] <viator> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:55] <Justin_> Does anyone know what the "slit" in Fluxbox is?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> X is made up of a bunch of packages exmaple xorg, xserver-xorg and so on
[03:55] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: thanks, im doing it now...
[03:55] <viator> you know if your more comfortable with the gui
[03:55] <kaot> AWOSDev: hey, stupid question but are you sure you typed that ESSID correctly?  I believe they're case-sensitive.
[03:55] <viator> you can use synaptic
[03:56] <NewtoUbuntu> viator sorry im not very trustful right now thats why im verifying everything so much cuz i had a guy tell me command that would erase my hardrive when i asked how to do this earlyier
[03:56] <AWOSDev> lookt1: Then I'm sorry but I can't help you anymore, I don't know how to play with that.
[03:56] <bmonkey> sethk: another error (i changed the language to english): The Settings daemon was restarted too many times
[03:56] <bmonkey> sethk: nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server
[03:56] <Don_jr> Okay now ubuntu is locking up at 'loading hardware drivers"
[03:56] <AWOSDev> lookt1: I forgot, you have ProFTPd, I have vsFTPd
[03:56] <h00t> how can i make my system have static IP can someone help me
[03:56] <AWOSDev> h00t: Try System->Administration->Networking
[03:56] <viator> you always get jokesters like that
[03:57] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: hey, i installed it, how do i launch it?
[03:57] <BOBSONATOR> its not in the APPS.
[03:57] <h00t> thanx
[03:57] <AWOSDev> h00t, no problem :)
[03:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes I did
[03:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: case-sensitively
[03:57] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: same way...it just replaces the deafult one
[03:57] <kaot> AWOSDev: quit doing all the easy stuff correctly, wouldja?
[03:57] <viator> totem = movie player
[03:57] <viator> same app
[03:57] <ferbombo> .
[03:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: LOL
[03:58] <viator> just using xine instead of gstreamer
[03:58] <profoZ> I installed kubuntu-desktop to try KDE again -- I try to go back into GNOME -- and my theme is all wrong and I can't open many applications anymore -- not even the terminal or xchat -- and sometimes it just hangs -- what could be wrong?
[03:58] <viator> mplayer is nice
[03:58] <arch_initcall> I have a problem with the X driver i810 (i915GM); I can't get it to display 1920x1080@60hz over DVI-D; I've got 1920x1080@26Hz - I'm starting to wonder if the card can go that high, anyone knows ?
[03:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: I'm developing my own OS, I know how to do the hard stuff correctly :P
[03:58] <NewtoUbuntu> whats mplayer do?
[03:59] <rsk> mplayer plays all your porn
[03:59] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: Oh, i couldnt tell, looks exactly the same.
[03:59] <shawnr_> media player
[03:59] <BOBSONATOR> lol
[03:59] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: MPLAYER = Media PLAYER
[03:59] <rsk> and ever more
[03:59] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: help > about
[03:59] <wikijeff> Is it possible to hack it so the time/date and volume panels are transparent?
[03:59] <NewtoUbuntu> o ok does that read dvds withotu the extra files that are required by totem?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Hack what?
[03:59] <Justin_> rsk:  :))
[04:00] <Justin_> NewtoUbuntu: You can also install VLC, I would say it is a better idea then Mplayer... which is pretty basic
[04:00] <Don_jr> This has got to be the fastest loading OS I"ve ever used, once the desktop is up, it's running....that's cool
[04:00] <BOBSONATOR> orbin: You ROCK.
[04:00] <BOBSONATOR> thanks a bunch man.
[04:00] <AWOSDev> Don_jr, yeah I like Linux it's literally (yes literally) at least five minutes faster than Windows XP
[04:00] <viator> vlc is great especially if you want to stream audio/video
[04:00] <viator> to other compiuters
[04:00] <Don_jr> AWOSDev yep, exaclty
[04:00] <orbin> BOBSONATOR: yw, viator helped out too
[04:00] <profoZ> Don_jr: thats how it's supposed to be in every good operating system -- stuff gets loaded before the desktop shows up -- instead of AFTER
[04:01] <viator> accross your home network or the internet
[04:01] <NewtoUbuntu> And Justin Vlc, with that i wouldnt have to install the extra files i need with totem?
[04:01] <shawnr_> viator, i can never get flash video or wmv to play with vlc
[04:01] <Justin_> Don_jr: Want more speed?, put on Fluxbox :P
[04:01] <kaot> mmmm fluxbox
[04:01] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: hack anything, or possibly some setting
[04:01] <AWOSDev> wikijeff: I mean KDE or GNOME or Xfce or what?
[04:01] <Justin_> NewtoUbuntu: VLC comes pretty much ready for all file formats, except for WMV3
[04:01] <profoZ> Don_jr: otherwise it's just like: hey see how fast we load...! the desktop is already up... now wait for another 5 minutes so i load your settings
[04:01] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: sry, GNOME
[04:01] <AWOSDev> wikijeff: No clue
[04:02] <tyler_d> still no help for my rmvb codec issue hey?
[04:02] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: does KDE support that?
[04:02] <Li^3_Fr33> hello world ?
[04:02] <rsk> Justin_, mplayer evne plays WMV3 via VC-1 if you fetch a svn copy
[04:02] <tyler_d> anyone... cries
[04:02] <Li^3_Fr33> 
[04:02] <profoZ> AWOSDev: it's possible to hack those applets to support transparancy
[04:02] <viator> i usually use mplayer or totem depending on which pc im at my wife lies totem cause it came as default
[04:02] <profoZ> AWOSDev: I have some code actually
[04:02] <rsk> noo need for binary codecs
[04:02] <AWOSDev> wikijeff, yes I believe KDE does
[04:02] <tyler_d> viator: have those, need the codec pack
[04:02] <profoZ> AWOSDev: no KDE doesn't do that automatically either
[04:02] <wikijeff> profoz: how can I hack it to support transparency?
[04:02] <profoZ> AWOSDev: it has to be programmed into the applets
[04:02] <profoZ> wikijeff: hold on..
[04:02] <Li^3_Fr33> mmmm/join macos
[04:03] <Justin_> rsk: Yeah well if someone if new - I doubt they are going to run around searching for svn packages :P - And anyways, only the newest porn requires WMV3 :P
[04:03] <wikijeff> profoZ: thanks
[04:03] <AWOSDev> profoZ: No
[04:03] <argument> "Warning: If you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 24880 UDP open. Decentralised tracking requires this." <---- what program/application is this and why do I need "Decentralised tracking"
[04:03] <NewtoUbuntu> what is WMV3? would that be dvds such as familyguy justin?
[04:03] <profoZ> wikijeff: I have code for making applets transparant in python
[04:03] <rsk> no just the "porn" webcodec
[04:03] <AWOSDev> profoZ: I just checked the "Enable transparency" in my KDE panel
[04:03] <rsk> and some random files
[04:03] <kaot> lol
[04:03] <profoZ> AWOSDev: that's something completely different
[04:03] <NewtoUbuntu> will some1 please tell me once more the command to get the extra files i need for totem and what repostiory its in?
[04:03] <viator> install w32codecs then
[04:03] <wikijeff> profoZ: are the applets coded in python?? how does that work?
[04:03] <profoZ> AWOSDev: those don't make the applets transparant
[04:04] <billybennett> Anyone here running XGL?  just curious how to disable plugins without deleting them
[04:04] <profoZ> wikijeff: maybe not all of them.. if you can't program.. why do you want to hack those applets? :P
[04:04] <tyler_d> regular package, or just apt-get install w32codecs
[04:04] <profoZ> billybennett: gconf-editor
[04:04] <wikijeff> profoz: i can program
[04:04] <profoZ> billybennett: apps -> compiz -> allscreens -> options -> plugins
[04:04] <AWOSDev> profoZ: It made my clock, tray, Kweather, and Kmenu all transparent
[04:04] <profoZ> or something like that
[04:04] <BOBSONATOR> Is there any way to make bittorrent faster?
[04:04] <BOBSONATOR> this thning is slow.
[04:04] <BOBSONATOR> utorrent rapes it.
[04:04] <profoZ> AWOSDev: lucky you -- because those applets support transparancy -- but thats not handled by kicker itself
[04:04] <viator> apt-get install w32codecs
[04:05] <profoZ> AWOSDev: those applets ask kicker what their backgrounds need to be
[04:05] <NewtoUbuntu> kk thanks to all whos helping
[04:05] <AWOSDev> profoZ: What *he* wants is the time and the tray to be transparent
[04:05] <Justin_> Anyone fool around with AMAROK?, How come it keeps "updating" my collection rather then playing my damn MP3's? :P
[04:05] <AWOSDev> profoZ: So...that would be what *he* wants
[04:05] <internat> stupid question can u have both kde and gnome installed?
[04:05] <tyler_d> I gots it... ty
[04:05] <profoZ> AWOSDev: okay.. fine
[04:05] <profoZ> AWOSDev: never mind :)
[04:05] <wikijeff> profoz, AWOSDev: yeah, in GNOME the time and volume control applets don't  become transparent
[04:05] <orbin> internat: sure
[04:05] <AWOSDev> Justin_: I use Amarok exclusively, and it is scanning for new MP3s you can disable it
[04:06] <viator> internat yes
[04:06] <AWOSDev> internat Yep
[04:06] <orbin> internat: not to mention xfce, fluxbox ...
[04:06] <viator> you can have as many de's as you want
[04:06] <internat> good stuff
[04:06] <internat> tho they probably wotn fix my problems but hey
[04:06] <viator> when i ran libranet 3 i had like 6
[04:06] <internat> at the moment anytime i play video x crashes
[04:07] <viator> reconfigure x
[04:07] <internat> err?
[04:07] <NewtoUbuntu> Viator please check your pm
[04:07] <zerobfh> Nicht verpassen http://www.my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=6318
[04:07] <Justin_> AWOSDev: Yeah well it seems to never stop scanning, since I have installed it I have yet to hear one track lol, I might as well just return to XMMS .. at least it works.
[04:07] <internat> why am i reconfiguring x?
[04:07] <viator> reconfigure xserver xorg
[04:07] <internat> no no, not how, why
[04:07] <NewtoUbuntu> me viator?
[04:07] <viator> i didnt get the pm cause they r off
[04:08] <NewtoUbuntu> o..
[04:08] <natural20> so i have no idea how to fix this: webpages time out (connection was reset), I can't upload anything, and i can't upload anything, ever -via GUI or FTP.  I need help!
[04:08] <AWOSDev> wikijeff: http://www.geocities.com/awosdev/Transparent.png
[04:08] <arch_initcall> Okay this I just think this chip can't do 1920x1080@60
[04:08] <AWOSDev> wikijeff: is that what you want?
[04:08] <natural20> yep can't upload anything
[04:08] <NewtoUbuntu> well i pasted the response i got whne i typed what u told me into the terminal in pm
[04:08] <AWOSDev> Justin_: hold on a sec
[04:08] <NewtoUbuntu> im afraid to paste it here because of their rules on pasting
[04:08] <Don_jr> cafuego you still there?
[04:08] <viator> pastebin it
[04:08] <Justin_> AWOSDev: No do not bother, I am removing it right now
[04:09] <AWOSDev> Justin_ Okay
[04:09] <NewtoUbuntu> ok whats the address for that?
[04:09] <NewtoUbuntu> viator?
[04:09] <Justin_> I will wait for their next version or something, its always bugging out - and scanning, and freezin meh ;)
[04:09] <cafuego> don_jr: About to leave actually
[04:09] <viator> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:09] <zerobfh> http://www.my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=6318
[04:09] <Don_jr> cafuego I got the ndiswrapper to work, one quick second and I may be done
[04:09] <AWOSDev> Justin_ did you have 1.3?
[04:09] <Don_jr> I've run sudo ndiswrapper -i mrv8335.inf  what's next??
[04:09] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: more or less
[04:10] <AWOSDev> Then KDE does it natively, if you'd rather not hack GNOME.
[04:10] <cafuego> don_jr: 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'. Then reboot.
[04:10] <Don_jr> cafuego ok
[04:10] <cafuego> don_jr: And you should then have a wlan0 network interface to play with :-)
[04:10] <AWOSDev> Don_jr
[04:10] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: ok, do I need to install Kubuntu to use KDE?
[04:10] <Don_jr> AWOSDev yes?
[04:10] <BOBSONATOR> no
[04:10] <NewtoUbuntu> ok i put in pastebin viator
[04:10] <viator> reboot?
[04:10] <cafuego> AWOSDev
[04:10] <viator> what is this windows
[04:11] <viator> lol
[04:11] <AWOSDev> Don_jr you could just modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:11] <byen> guys my system crashed hard.. how can i find out what happened?
[04:11] <AWOSDev> instead of reboot
[04:11] <AWOSDev> wikijeff No
[04:11] <Don_jr> cafuego AWOSDev I ran the ndiswrapper -m and it's rebooting now
[04:11] <AWOSDev> wikijeff I have regular Ubuntu, I just grabbed all the kde* packages in Synaptic
[04:11] <viator> so wheres the link NewtoUbuntu?
[04:11] <viator> paste it
[04:11] <bmonkey> how do i fix apt-get dependencies?
[04:11] <NewtoUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21608
[04:11] <AWOSDev> viator, I've noticed in the WINE channel as well as here nobody gets you have to paste the link :)
[04:12] <NewtoUbuntu> sorry i didnt realize that... im new to linux and irc
[04:12] <lordhelmet> how do i remove something listed as being in a very bad inconsistent state? i can't seem to find any combination to make it work
[04:12] <profoZ> wikijeff: you can probably make them transparant if you want to reprogram them... and include some program code for it.. i've got sample code for python -- but nothing more
[04:12] <profoZ> wikijeff: and it's not something you can do easily
[04:12] <AWOSDev> wikijeff you just grab the packages and then log out and then at the bottom left under "options" you do "Change session" or something like that then you hit KDE
[04:13] <AWOSDev> wikijeff it's really simple, and KDE is SO SO SO much better than GNOME (IMHO)
[04:13] <kaot> AWOSDev: ok, I learned something new.  wlan0 will *not* associate with wap until it's authenticated.  Still doesn't tell us why yours doesn't work when it's set up, apparently correctly, through network manager, unless maybe the wep key is in the wrong.
[04:13] <wikijeff> AWOSDev: ok, thanks
[04:13] <profoZ> AWOSDev: yes in your opinion -- but don't force your opinion on other people
[04:13] <tyler_d> connection refused from deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free??
[04:13] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntuo that's okay
[04:13] <kaot> AWOSDev: but I'm assuming you c&p'd it
[04:13] <viator> did you use sudo?
[04:13] <profoZ> wikijeff: make your own choice :)
[04:13] <natural20>  so i have no idea how to fix this: webpages time out (connection was reset), I can't upload anything, ever -via GUI or FTP.  I need help!
[04:13] <tyler_d> yes
[04:13] <tyler_d> viator: yes
[04:13] <Don_jr> this thing freezes ad "loading hardware drivers" alot
[04:13] <AWOSDev> kaot: No it's not that hard of a password to remember
[04:13] <viator> im talking to too many ppl at once
[04:13] <tyler_d> viator: do you have that in your sources list?
[04:14] <SmoothOp|Bed> i got a question
[04:14] <AWOSDev> kaot: It's something very significant to me but nobody else even knows what it is :)
[04:14] <viator> yes
[04:14] <profoZ> Don_jr: what do youmean with freeze
[04:14] <wikijeff> profoZ: well how do the applets work, are they coded in python?
[04:14] <kaot> AWOSDev: you said it's hex right?
[04:14] <Don_jr> profoz it stops booting, locks up
[04:14] <viator> goto the source o matic site
[04:14] <tyler_d> viator: would you copy/paste it for me
[04:14] <SmoothOp> is ubuntu good to make a cluster out of
[04:14] <viator> add all the good stuff
[04:14] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[04:14] <SmoothOp> i have two 64mb ram 233mhz machines
[04:14] <profoZ> wikijeff: i don't know.. alot of applets are programmed in python.. but i don't know which ones.. some are also C etc.
[04:14] <kaot> AWOSDev: well, if you're writing an os I guess you could have significant hex.
[04:14] <Don_jr> profoz only does it every now and then....sometimes it boots right up.
[04:14] <viator> one sec
[04:14] <profoZ> Don_jr: hardware issues..?
[04:14] <tyler_d> viator: yup... ty
[04:14] <wikijeff> profoZ: ok, can you post the code online?
[04:14] <profoZ> Don_jr: you could consult /var/log/syslog ...
[04:15] <Don_jr> cafuego okay, I've rebooted it's running what's next??
[04:15] <NewtoUbuntu> ok viator now i did sudo- apt get this is the new response ive got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21609
[04:15] <profoZ> wikijeff: hmm okay.. wait
[04:15] <AWOSDev> kaot: What do you mean?
[04:15] <wikijeff> profoZ: thanks
[04:15] <Don_jr> profoz what's that mean? lol  I can open that in a text editor and it'll tell me what it's doing to lock up maybe?
[04:15] <NewtoUbuntu> Viator do u perhaps think this means to turn off totem?
[04:15] <AWOSDev> kaot: I just type my password and it automatically switches to Hex, I don't have to type it *in* hex
[04:15] <cafuego> don_jr: Not you have a 'wlan0' network interface you can use.
[04:15] <cafuego> s/t/w/
[04:15] <kaot> AWOSDev: ah HA.  hey, let's try something.
[04:16] <sethk> AWOSDev, are you talking about the wireless ethernet pass phrase?
[04:16] <viator> no dont matter
[04:16] <Don_jr> cafuego okay, how do I access it and tell it to turn on my card?  I have no lights blinking still
[04:16] <bmonkey> how can i change network settings (dhcp) in the shell?
[04:16] <AWOSDev> cafuego: That makes your post say "Now you have a 'wlan0' newwork inwerface you can use' :)
[04:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: What?
[04:16] <viator> NewtoUbuntu it looks like you diditn use sudo
[04:16] <AWOSDev> sethk: Yes
[04:16] <NewtoUbuntu> the second time i did
[04:16] <NewtoUbuntu> one sec ill try one more time
[04:17] <AWOSDev> kaot: What to try?
[04:17] <xrothgarx> can someone help me set up kubuntu to use my tv's full 720p resolution?  It will only show 800x600 (nvidia 6200 with latest drivers)
[04:17] <kaot> AWOSDev: when you set that key on the router did you type in a passphrase and it generated a hex key?
[04:17] <Justin_> Does anyone here use "Fluxbox" ?
[04:17] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[04:17] <NewtoUbuntu> Viator i typed this sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:18] <NewtoUbuntu> and got thay response i put in pastebin
[04:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: grab the actual hex key.  I used the passphrase too and plaintext wouldn't work for me, I had to put the hex key in.
[04:18] <NewtoUbuntu> that*
[04:18] <Don_jr> cafuego iwconfig still shows no wireless extensions
[04:18] <Sarra_> I'm looking for a program for Linux that is equivilant to jGRASP for Windows
[04:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: I might have messed something up, I dunno, but that's how I got mine to work just now.
[04:18] <AWOSDev> kaot: Grab it?  How do I grab it?
[04:18] <tyler_d> viator: still don't know wtf is going on... I typed sudo apt-get update last few lines said that It failed to connect (connection refused)
[04:18] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: you need to add 2 options to your Xorg
[04:18] <ltR20> hey guys im on the LIVE CDand going to install ubuntu. HOW BIG should the swap partition be?
[04:18] <Don_jr> Okay, anyone else able to help me with a WLAN problem?  I can't get conected
[04:18] <Sarra_> jGRASP is a lite Java application for writing java scripts
[04:18] <sizzam> how do i enable UserList icons in Xchat?  i'm using 2.6.1 from the repos
[04:18] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: please do tell :) it is driving me crazy and I can't use mythtv
[04:19] <tyler_d> viator: would you do me a favor and just copy/paste it so I konw I have the right one
[04:19] <kaot> AWOSDev: dunno.  Mine is right in the router config page, in the security settings.
[04:19] <viator> tyler_d
[04:19] <viator> here
[04:19] <viator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21610
[04:19] <viator> thats my sources.list
[04:19] <AWOSDev> ltR20: I normally have it set to make the total system RAM = 1GB
[04:19] <AWOSDev> ltR20: e.g. on a 512MB machin I have it at 512MB
[04:19] <NewtoUbuntu> Viator do you knwo what i need to do? to get it to work for me?
[04:19] <AWOSDev> ltR20: but that is Windows
[04:19] <AWOSDev> ltR20: In Linux I've never gone over 200MB
[04:19] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: Yeah its tricky but if you're good with ubuntu you can read and addapt http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Modeline_Database
[04:19] <AWOSDev> ltR20: So just go for 200MB
[04:19] <NewtoUbuntu> to get this to work? sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:20] <AWOSDev> kaot: I can't get into my router config page :(
[04:20] <SurfnKid> whats better, fluke or ideal
[04:20] <NewtoUbuntu> Sarra_ is jgrasp for windows?
[04:20] <pattyD> so every time I try to do an apt-get update the console just hangs when trying to go to "archive.ubuntu.com" and times out..... any suggestions?
[04:20] <viator> NewtoUbuntu do you have a stock sources.list
[04:20] <Don_jr> ndiswrapper is not running in my list when I use lsmod......is it suppose to be there??
[04:20] <ltR20> AWOSDev, what FS?
[04:20] <Sarra_> NewtoUbuntu: yes
[04:20] <kaot> AWOSDev: bummer.  this being because of the whole no-wireless thing, right?
[04:20] <ToHellWithGA> hello hello.  when trying to setup AIGLX i noticed it wants me to set my gdm to use "Xorg-air :0" yet Xorg-air was not installed by default.  How can I make the -air version my default X server?
[04:20] <Sarra_> I'm looking for an equivilant for Ubuntu
[04:20] <NewtoUbuntu> i dont know what u mean by this viator
[04:20] <viator> i mean default
[04:20] <Justin_> Hmm, I forget - what does "apt-get upgrade" do again?, simply upgrade certain parts of my system - or upgrade ubuntu altogether?
[04:21] <viator> did you add extra repos
[04:21] <bluefox83> ok...i have my twinview set up in xorg.conf now how to i get my tv to use it?
[04:21] <Justin_> Sarra_: Mepis
[04:21] <AWOSDev> ltR20: uh, swap?
[04:21] <looktj> anyone used proftpd?
[04:21] <bluefox83> do i need to launch something?
[04:21] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: you need to set UseEDID to "FALSE" and "ExactModeTimingsDVI" to "TRUE" in your device section- then don't forget to add the modelines
[04:21] <AWOSDev> ltR20: If you're asking my recommendation for the / FS, I'd go with EXT3.
[04:21] <pattyD> no I guess thats my question, are there known faster repositories?
[04:21] <NewtoUbuntu> Sarra_ u can as an alternative install wine for winehq which would probably allow u to use jgrasp
[04:21] <AWOSDev> kaot: No
[04:21] <bluefox83> !twinview
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <AWOSDev> kaot: it has wired ports
[04:21] <Justin_> Ahh ok I thought you meant an equiv to the Ubuntu distro - sorry.
[04:21] <viator> sarra you have a windows cd?
[04:21] <ltR20> AWOSDev, no for the swap
[04:21] <ltR20> im in the partition menu
[04:21] <ltR20> but it doesnt exacly do it for you
[04:21] <Justin_> bluefox83: Did you restart your Xserver?
[04:21] <ootput> hi guys, i manually configured my xorg.conf (for dual-head setup.) What's the best way to re-read the file?
[04:21] <kaot> AWOSDev: that would have been my next suggestion but naturally you're ahead of me.  No password in?
[04:21] <Sarra_> NewtoUbuntu: I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu, Wine doesn't want to compil for me
[04:22] <viator> id install qemu witth the accelrator and xp within it
[04:22] <Sarra_> viator: yes I do
[04:22] <ootput> short of restarting the machine?
[04:22] <AWOSDev> ltR20 it should just say swap, you're on Dapper Drake Live CD right?
[04:22] <Don_jr> OMG I did modprobe ndiswrapper and my light is blinking on my card!!!!
[04:22] <viator> or use vmwareplayer
[04:22] <bluefox83> Justin_, only about a million times...
[04:22] <NewtoUbuntu> what do mean 64 bit? sarra_
[04:22] <NewtoUbuntu> are u running dapper drake?
[04:22] <AWOSDev> kaot: It just times out after I put the password in :(
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Sarra_: its a bit tricky iirc to compile wine on 64bit
[04:22] <Sarra_> Yes
[04:22] <Justin_> bluefox83: Strange should work
[04:22] <tyler_d> viator: ty... updated, installing now... I will try that :)
[04:22] <Sarra_> I was hitting some really weird problems with it
[04:22] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: you can also try Option "ModeValidation" "AllowNon60HzDFPModes, NoEdidMaxPClkCheck, NoMaxPClkCheck, NoHorizSyncCheck, NoVertRefreshCheck, NoEdidDFPMaxSizeCheck, NoEdidModes" in the Device section too
[04:22] <profoXP> wikijeff: sorry I had hardware problems
[04:22] <burnhamd> wine doesnt compile with 64bit
[04:22] <gnomefreak> NewtoUbuntu: some amd cpus are 64bit while most intel and some amds are 32bit
[04:22] <viator> i set winxp up for my mom in qemu
[04:23] <viator> she can run the few windows apps she neds
[04:23] <bluefox83> Justin_, so right off the bat my tv should be showing the same thing that my monitor is showing, without using anything special besides the twinview stuff?
[04:23] <profoXP> wikijeff: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NYGiGV85.html
[04:23] <viator> from there
[04:23] <ootput> can someone paste their swap entry in fstab?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> burnhamd: iirc it can its just a pita to do
[04:23] <viator> no dual boot no wine etc
[04:23] <NewtoUbuntu> well u wanna try to install it again and let me know what happens? b4 u do let me tell u this... Sarra_
[04:23] <burnhamd> yea i know its hard i got it to work
[04:23] <AWOSDev> ootput: /dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:23] <kaot> AWOSDev: that's pretty unfortunate.  I dunno how we do this then.
[04:23] <ootput> AWOSDev, thanks
[04:23] <AWOSDev> kaot: Lemme try again
[04:23] <AstralJava> ootput: /dev/hda6       swap            swap    defaults        0       0
[04:23] <bmonkey> how can i change network settings (dhcp) in the shell?
[04:24] <burnhamd> but i ended up using 32bit anyway because i needed  flash
[04:24] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: check you PM
[04:24] <argument> bmonkey, ifconfig
[04:24] <bmonkey> thx
[04:24] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: PM ? did you send one ?
[04:24] <pattyD> so are the mirrors which are known to be faster? what is a good replacement for archive.ubuntu.com ?
[04:24] <ootput> AstralJava, your entry appears to be different than AWOSDev's
[04:24] <ootput> AstralJava, there isn't a mountpoint for swap drives, right?
[04:24] <AstralJava> ootput: That's only because my swap is on a different partition. That's probably unique in many different setups.
[04:24] <wikijeff> profoXP: thanks
[04:24] <Sarra_> I tried to google the compile errors Wine was giving me, but it returned nothing of use
[04:25] <AWOSDev> Sarra_ -- doesn't AMD64 have a 32-bit compatibility mode?
[04:25] <AstralJava> ootput: Nope.
[04:25] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: maybe it doesnt work with your client, I am using mIRC
[04:25] <Sarra_> I have 32 bit windows and 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:25] <ootput> AstralJava,  I suppose Ubuntu will be smart enough to recognise a swap-signature on /hda6, and ignore the 'swap' mountpoint?
[04:25] <argument> Sarra_, have you tried vmware-server ?
[04:25] <Sarra_> I don't want to have to add another partition to my laptop, I only have 80 gb to work with
[04:25] <natural20>  so i have no idea how to fix this: webpages time out (connection was reset), I can't upload anything, and i can't upload anything, ever -via GUI or FTP.  I need help!
[04:25] <Sarra_> Not yet, argument
[04:25] <argument> Sarra_, it's free
[04:25] <anthony_> I just installed emacs21 with the synaptics package manager, and I don't know where it's gone! can anyone help?
[04:25] <argument> Sarra_, runs my windows xp just dandily
[04:26] <AstralJava> ootput: Yes, I suppose so. It's not too difficult to set up, so I figure you can't really go wrong.
[04:26] <kaot> oh is that all.  i've got 58GB combined between 4 computers here.
[04:26] <AWOSDev> anthony_: run "whereis emacs"
[04:26] <viator> Sarra like i said use virtualization
[04:26] <ootput> AstralJava, besides a reboot, you wouldn't happen to know the best way to get a modified xorg.conf to be re-read?
[04:26] <argument> Sarra_, i use it for CSS testing in IE basically, and for when i need to help friends with windows programs :)
[04:26] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: Oh no my client does PMs but I may have blocked them
[04:26] <NewtoUbuntu> ok Sarra_ just go to Applications, Add/Remove in the search bar type wie and then check mark the wine windows emulator and then hit apply
[04:26] <Bacta> hey guys i've got a sound problem...please only help if you know what you are doing
[04:26] <argument> Sarra_, vmware-server is way slicker than running wine
[04:26] <viator> what app did you want to use anyway?
[04:26] <ootput> AstralJava, yeah, i was just after the right syntax of the entry. I forgot to specify swap space @ install-time, and it's been a while since i last tinkered with an fstab
[04:26] <Don_jr> Okay, the green light on my card is blinking and the interface says it's active, but still no internet.  anysuggestions?
[04:26] <ltR20> is there a way to FIX my windows drive and set it to boot from the live CD
[04:26] <Sarra_> NewtoUbuntu: There is no 64 bit version of Wine pre-compiled yet, doing so returns nothing
[04:27] <ootput> AstralJava, it's been about 2 years, or so :D
[04:27] <profoXP> Does anyone know how I stop the gtk-qt-engine ?
[04:27] <AstralJava> ootput: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, or logging into a virtual terminal, and issue `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart`
[04:27] <viator> compile it
[04:27] <viator> then
[04:27] <Sarra_> argument: I'm in synaptic right now
[04:27] <AstralJava> ootput: Without the backticks, of course.
[04:27] <viator> vmware server not in the repos
[04:27] <ootput> AstralJava, sure, thanks
[04:27] <argument> profoXP, it's under "style" in the control center
[04:27] <viator> not even plf
[04:27] <profoXP> argument: i know.. but how do I disable it completely ._.
[04:27] <AstralJava> ootput: No prob. :)
[04:27] <NewtoUbuntu> Sarra_.... im sure if u read on winehq u find a way to make it work for u...
[04:27] <profoXP> argument: my GNOME doesn't want to be normal anymore
[04:27] <Bacta> can somebody knowledgable about sound please help me? I can't get sound going at all and nobody seems to be helping me...
[04:28] <viator> Sarra what app you want to work?
[04:28] <Sarra_> NewtoUbuntu: I read things, googled errors, and poked around with it for 2 weeks
[04:28] <anthony_> AWOSDev, thanks!  now how do I run it, and why didn't it go into the "applications" menu like everything else has done?
[04:28] <argument> profoXP, so use KDE :P
[04:28] <Sarra_> I just gave up
[04:28] <argument> profoXP, i dunno
[04:28] <profoXP> argument: lol
[04:28] <Bacta> im at my wits end here...makes me wanna go back to XP
[04:28] <Sarra_> viator: I'm not looking to get something specific running, but I would like to find a utility equivilant to jGRASP for ubuntu
[04:28] <argument> profoXP, i'm actually in the middle of switching to KDE right now
[04:28] <AWOSDev> anthony_: it probably says "/usr/bin/emacs", right?
[04:28] <argument> profoXP, been using gnome for years, but KDE really is much slicker
[04:28] <Detox> can i get some help wiith a microsoft mn510 usb nic card?  I have both green lights and the syslog sees it but it wilkl not work
[04:28] <NewtoUbuntu> My advice Sarra_ would be run ur comp windows over linux or get a different computer
[04:28] <AstralJava> Bacta: I suggest sending a message onto ubuntu-users, if there are none who know more about sound issues here at the moment.
[04:28] <lordhelmet> Bacta: don't say that
[04:28] <profoXP> argument: i know..
[04:28] <argument> profoXP, the only lament i have is that there's no  drag'n'drop with gvim
[04:28] <profoXP> argument: I use both alot
[04:28] <anthony_> AWOSDev, yeah it does
[04:29] <argument> profoXP, use QtCurve instead man
[04:29] <profoXP> argument: lets vote for a kvim
[04:29] <anthony_> AWOSDev, sorry I've only just installed this.  having a few teething issues!
[04:29] <profoXP> argument: I actually use QtCurve -- lol
[04:29] <AWOSDev> anthony_ then just type "emacs" it should work, or "/usr/bin/emacs" if it doesn't
[04:29] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: where/what file do I edit the options you said?
[04:29] <arch_initcall> Ohh nice Xorg decided that 37Hz refresh rate was all I need !
[04:29] <profoXP> argument: but it broke my machine anyway ._.
[04:29] <argument> profoXP, yeah well it's got a gtk version, so just use that, that way all your apps look consistent anyway
[04:29] <jerrcs> is a upgrade to edgy eft worth it? or will it break things beyond belief
[04:29] <jerrcs> ?
[04:29] <profoXP> argument: GNOME is broken and I'm not sure why
[04:29] <argument> profoXP, hmmm i've not had problems
[04:29] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <argument> profoXP, did you install the bonoboui dev libs before installing?
[04:29] <phargle> arch_initcall: at least its a refresh rate
[04:29] <profoXP> argument: I installed kubuntu-desktop and poof.. gnome is broken after I used KDE for awhile
[04:29] <argument> hahah
[04:30] <argument> oh well
[04:30] <profoXP> argument: well..
[04:30] <Bacta> #ubuntu-users?
[04:30] <profoXP> argument: on my laptop it went fine
[04:30] <profoXP> :/
[04:30] <profoXP> argument: but now on my pc -- broken GNOME
[04:30] <xrothgarx> thx, I will see what I can do (I may be here later with a broken display though :( )
[04:30] <anthony_> AWOSDev, many thanks
[04:30] <arch_initcall> phargle: but my eyes hurts
[04:30] <AstralJava> Bacta: No, the mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[04:30] <Don_jr> Any help with my WLAN problem?  I have a green light blinking, and teh interface says wlan0 active, but no internet connection yet.  Any help?
[04:30] <AWOSDev> anthony_ no problem
[04:30] <AstralJava> Bacta: See http://lists.ubuntu.com about more info.
[04:30] <Sarra_> Don_jr: Do you have a wifi router?
[04:30] <Bacta> mailing list??
[04:30] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: what's the issue?
[04:30] <Bacta> ok
[04:30] <AWOSDev> anthony_ also you should be able to right-click on "Applications" then find your way to the Menu Editor and add eMacs
[04:31] <Bacta> and why do you guys seem so intent on sidestepping anything to do with sound?
[04:31] <Don_jr> Sarra_ Yes I have a router and I've input the proper wep key into the configuration
[04:31] <AWOSDev> Bacta: We're helping other people right now?
[04:31] <Sarra_> Hmm
[04:31] <viator> Sarra what about Eclipse?
[04:31] <Bacta> even when its quiet
[04:31] <AstralJava> Bacta: There your questions will be seen by all who know more deeply about it.
[04:31] <arch_initcall> Bacta: Just ask your question
[04:31] <Sarra_> :O We're all deaf
[04:31] <xnull> heya how do I install ati drivers on edgy ? Thanks
[04:32] <Sarra_> xnull: I found excellent instructions on the Wiki
[04:32] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I've just installed ndiswrapper, now my netgear WG511 card has a green light blinking and in the network settings the interface says wlan0 is active, yet I still can't get online yet.
[04:32] <xnull> Sarra_, for edgy ?
[04:32] <Bacta> arch_initcall: i can't get sound on Ubuntu working...i have submitted to the forums...asked here numerous times...done EVERYTHING...and nobody has solved the problem..
[04:32] <AstralJava> Bacta: Sound issues might be very difficult to deal with, and maybe no one just are experienced about it, of whom are inside here now. :)
[04:32] <javierss> buenas que tal
[04:32] <Sarra_> xnull: Hmm, maybe not
[04:32] <arch_initcall> Bacta: that doesn't help anyone
[04:32] <javierss> alguien sabe como cambiar el password de phpmyadmin ?
[04:32] <AstralJava> Bacta: Can you give a link to the forum thread?
[04:32] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: try apt-getting knetworkmanger (or networkmanager for gnome if they have it)
[04:32] <Bacta> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242853
[04:32] <DARKGuy> javierss, intenta #ubuntu-es, espaol :P
[04:32] <AWOSDev> kaot: ditto
[04:33] <lordhelmet> and use that to configure things
[04:33] <AstralJava> Bacta: Thanks, I'll head towards that in a sec.
[04:33] <anthony_> AWOSDev, ah sweet.  so usr/bin/ is similar to Program Files in Windows?
[04:33] <AWOSDev> kaot: My wired computer just sits at "Transferring data from 192.168.1.1..." and never does anything
[04:33] <Bacta> thanks guys...and please don't tell me to goto that other thread there ;)
[04:33] <AWOSDev> anthony_: Yep
[04:33] <pattyD> so any hints as too known repositories that don't time out all the time while trying to upgrade???
[04:33] <kaot> AWOSDev: you might want to try powercycling that router when you can afford to be offline for a minute
[04:33] <Bacta> the guys having similar probs but nothing suggested there works for me
[04:33] <AWOSDev> kaot: Watch this :)
[04:33] <kaot> (obviously...)
[04:33] <kaot> hehe
[04:33] <Don_jr> lordhelmet they may have one for gnome, this is my first time ever using a nix system so I have no clue what it would be
[04:33] <arch_initcall> Bacta: Doesn't that chip require routing code that was added to Linux 2.6.16 ?
[04:34] <DARKGuy> Greetings, can anybody lend me a hand here? I recently installed the nvidia drivers using the .run installer, and now my normal user can't login after the gdm authentication. However my root user can :/ so this one must have something that now my normal user doesn't. Anybody knows how to solve this, or what's the startup script file for my user so I can get back to normal login?
[04:34] <viator> Sarra what about jbuilder
[04:34] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: are you in gnome or kde?
[04:34] <anthony_> AWOSDev, Nice one.  One more thing before I go to bed.  I need an html editorm similar to jEdit
[04:34] <AWOSDev> kaot: Router has been power cycled :)
[04:34] <viator> or eclipse
[04:34] <Bacta> arch_initcall: i don't know what that means
[04:34] <kaot> haha
[04:34] <lordhelmet> DARK: probably a DRI permissions issue
[04:34] <kaot> AWOSDev: now wave a hammer at it.  I don't know why but this seems to help sometimes.
[04:34] <anthony_> AWOSDev, * with similar highliting to jedit
[04:34] <DARKGuy> lordhelmet, do you know how to solve it?
[04:34] <anthony_> AWOSDev, I'm colour-blind, you see!
[04:34] <lordhelmet> DARK: do you have a DRI section in xorg.conf?
[04:34] <Don_jr> lordhelmet gnome
[04:35] <arch_initcall> Bacta: That's the same chip as the new MacBook Pros; they had a fix in the kernel in a very recent kernel version - ubuntu doesn't have that fix
[04:35] <profoXP> hoe zet ik die fcking gtk-qt engine uit !!!!
[04:35] <profoXP> onder gnome
[04:35] <profoXP> -_-'
[04:35] <Bacta> are you sure its the same chip?
[04:35] <profoXP> lol sorry guys
[04:35] <DARKGuy> yes lordhelmet
[04:35] <arch_initcall> Bacta: No but it does look like it-
[04:35] <Bacta> because this is a windows machine all over...stickers and all lol
[04:35] <Bacta> arch_initcall: ok so what next?
[04:35] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: they don't have just networkmanager but try and apt-get knetworkmanager and see how much it wants to install
[04:35] <arch_initcall> Bacta: so what - what do you think Intel Macs are ?
[04:36] <Bacta> czerkacorp: starwars lol
[04:36] <AstralJava> Bacta: Found a site that says you have to enable CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL in the kernel.
[04:36] <lordhelmet> DARK: try DRI mode 0666
[04:36] <czerkacorp> !!
[04:36] <Don_jr> lordhelmet one second had to reboot, system froze on me for some reason, I'll try that
[04:36] <DARKGuy> lordhelmet, it's there :P
[04:36] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: do I need to add the modelines to screen and monitor? or just screen?
[04:36] <Bacta> so why hasn't anybody told me about this in the days i have been asking people?
[04:36] <arch_initcall> Bacta: While I'm busy with another problem, you should ask for help on how to recompile a kernel - version 2.6.17
[04:36] <leboff> hey , ubuntu has stopped recognizing my monitor.. i restored a backed up xorg.conf file.. and that didnt work so i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and that didnt work either.. can anyone help me out here?
[04:36] <AstralJava> Bacta: Have you tried that? See http://www.lorenzobettini.it/linux/LinuxSonyVaioVGN-S5VP_B for more info. It seems to require recompiling the kernel...
[04:37] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: Monitor only
[04:37] <lordhelmet> DARK: is there an error or does it look like they are getting logged in and then just kick back to the login screen?
[04:37] <AstralJava> Bacta: Maybe nobody just knew about it, of those people who were present at the time.
[04:37] <Bacta> i assume recompiling a kernel is harder than my computer science algorithms assignment?
[04:38] <cfedde> nope
[04:38] <leboff> bacta: probably not
[04:38] <DARKGuy> lordhelmet, it looks like if it's going to login (you know, where it goes to show the splash screen and the small icons below: window manager, nautilus, etc), but nothing happens, as if it hangs. Root user doesn't do that though
[04:38] <arch_initcall> AstralJava: Yeah I just watch the kernel changelogs - I don't supose ppl usually do that :P
[04:38] <lordhelmet> Bacta: no it's not bad
[04:38] <ltR20> hey guys how can I fix the MBR (make windows boot drive) from this LIVE CD
[04:38] <Bacta> do i need to hack the C code?
[04:38] <lordhelmet> just takes a little while depending on how much you configure/leave in
[04:38] <arch_initcall> Bacta: no
[04:38] <leboff> ltR20: open up a terminal
[04:38] <Bacta> and how can I recompile it when I am using the kernel to run my system lol
[04:38] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: ok that is all in but I couldn't find the options for useEDID, is that somewehre else?
[04:38] <AstralJava> Bacta: You seem to be new here, so I'll just add that all who hang around here are mostly users of Ubuntu, there are no paid devs (or that many anyway) so it's basically just people like you and me who help each other. If I don't have experience on the issues you have to deal with, then there's no point getting furious about it. :)
[04:38] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: Nvidia doesn't document all their switches
[04:39] <Detox> cannot get my usb nic to wrok
[04:39] <AWOSDev> kaot:Since my laptop is wired to my switch, unplugging the wireless doesn't do anything to my laptop or Linux router, just my other desktop PC :)
[04:39] <AWOSDev> kaot: I have a Linux Router backbone, with the wireless' "INTERNET" plug going to my switch
[04:39] <AWOSDev> kaot: may be kludgey but it work :)
[04:39] <AWOSDev> *works
[04:39] <AWOSDev> kaot: I'm getting absolutely nowhere
[04:39] <AstralJava> Bacta: No, it's not _that_ hard. Lemme find a wiki page for you.
[04:39] <AWOSDev> kaot: You can still see me right?  I didn't screw up anything right?
[04:39] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: but I have a few options
[04:39] <Bacta> AstralJava: sorry...im not angry
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Ah heck
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Freakin thing
[04:39] <Flannel> !tell Bacta about kernel
[04:39] <AWOSDev> anthony_: Kate
[04:39] <Bacta> it just annoys me that Ubuntu works so well on all the other laptops i have installed it on but this
[04:39] <pattyD> anyone have a
[04:39] <pattyD> so any hints as too known repositories that don't time out all the time while trying to upgrade???
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Oh man
[04:39] <crazdiam> is there a secret to getting a joystick working? ive got it on a SB live card, and theres no /dev/js# or /dev/input/js at all
[04:39] <ltR20> leboff it's open.
[04:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: what was the last thing you saw from me?
[04:40] <ltR20> now what
[04:40] <leboff> ltr20: become root, and type: 'grub'. then: 'find /boot/grub/stage1'.. then: 'root (hd0,3)' (or whatever it tells you after the find) and then: 'setup (hd0,3)' then quit
[04:40] <arch_initcall> pattyD: I use http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I stepped on my Linux router's ethernet cord and everything went away
[04:40] <Bacta> so what new stuff do i need to compile into the kernel?
[04:40] <Don_jr> lordhelmet okay rebooted, now run apt-get knetworkmanager?
[04:40] <AstralJava> Bacta: That's okay, just making sure you understand the nature of this chatroom. :)
[04:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: you're still here
[04:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I know that
[04:40] <leboff> hey , ubuntu has stopped recognizing my monitor.. i restored a backed up xorg.conf file.. and that didnt work so i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and that didnt work either.. can anyone help me out here?
[04:40] <lordhelmet> Don: yes but see how much it wants to install
[04:40] <AWOSDev> I can see everybody
[04:40] <Bacta> AstralJava: i know and it does impress me that u guys are doing this for free...its just i've had this prob for days *cries*
[04:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Did you see what I said about my wireless router?
[04:41] <lordhelmet> Don: i know they have networkmanager for gnome, but i didn't see it just with a quick search. you might have to google a bit to find the package or the source
[04:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: It just so happened I disconnected myself :/
[04:41] <viator> libranet had a nifty gui to to setup and recompile the kernel
[04:41] <Flannel> Bacta: did you see the link ubotu sent you?  it gives you all instructions on recompiling
[04:41] <AstralJava> Bacta: There's a page like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?highlight=%28kernel%29
[04:41] <viator> i miss libranet
[04:41] <arch_initcall> Bacta: I don't have my 798794351 buttons working on my keyboard nor is the LCD on the keyboard working... but at the end of the day I say to myself, I don't really need it :P
[04:41] <Bacta> Flannel: yes...and it also tells me if i just need a new driver i shouldn't have to recompile
[04:41] <pattyD> thanks
[04:41] <Don_jr> lordhelmet running now
[04:41] <Justin_> Bacta: Do not mess up, cause if you do - bye bye installation :P
[04:41] <kaot> AWOSDev: oh yeah I saw it, it's hanging off your actual router
[04:42] <kaot> AWOSDev: so you still can't get into it
[04:42] <Don_jr> e: invalid operation knetworkmanager
[04:42] <Don_jr> should I put in the install cd?
[04:42] <Bacta> Justin_: dosn't matter...i've already done a reinstall on this thing to try fix the prob...so if i have to do it again no love lost
[04:42] <AWOSDev> kaot: I'm trying now
[04:42] <lordhelmet> Don: sry apt-get install knetworkmamanger
[04:42] <kaot> my other laptop won't shut down and I can't figure out where the battery is.  I think I Have to take the whole thing apart.  Agh.
[04:42] <arch_initcall> actually I don't run linux 'cuz it free -- I run it because I can see the source
[04:42] <AWOSDev> kaot: doesn't look good though :(
[04:42] <lordhelmet> manager*
[04:42] <kaot> bummer
[04:42] <Justin_> Bacta: Ahh ok ;) Thought you might have had some data etc
[04:42] <pattyD> so is it normal to see "99% [Waiting for headers] " for a long time when doing a apt-get update?
[04:42] <Flannel> Bacta: that's usually true, yeah.  You need to know what hardware you need the driver for, and then poke around on google/etc to get instructions on installing those drivers
[04:42] <AstralJava> Bacta: If there's a driver for it, that's always better, don't, I repeat, don't compile a custom kernel before you try that out first.
[04:43] <Justin_> *sighs* Ubuntu really is a pain when you want to install stuff from source, so many libs missing...
[04:43] <Don_jr> e: coulnd't find package knetworkmanager
[04:43] <Flannel> Justin_: no libs should be missing
[04:43] <AWOSDev> Ah heck
[04:43] <AstralJava> pattyD: Yes it sometimes happens. The repositories are under a heavy load at times.
[04:43] <kaosx> doesnt compiling a kernel custom for your hardware increase speed though? (asking for my own information, just something I heard)
[04:43] <lordhelmet> Don: really?? i totally installed it like 2 days ago
[04:43] <Bacta> ok so i need to recompile the kernel so it recognizes my sound hardware?
[04:43] <lordhelmet> and i just searched and it shows up
[04:43] <FreakerJim> Hello all
[04:43] <AWOSDev> kaot: I remembered the SSID wrong :x
[04:44] <Justin_> Flannel: Well GCC is not installed default, it is missing xlibs-dev default, xserver-xorg-dev, wxwidgets config etc etc
[04:44] <pattyD> ok how do I resolve this when doing an apt-get update W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> ?
[04:44] <kaot> >:|
[04:44] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I just tried to reach my router through firefox and logonto the IP, it isn't connecting.
[04:44] <Bacta> Don_jr: i have tried that too...
[04:44] <Justin_> Actually I like it better that way, I get to build only what I want so I do not waste space on libs I do not need.. in that way I can see it as good
[04:44] <ltR20> leboff, find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:44] <Flannel> Justin_: Right, they're not installed by default.  They're in the repos though.  And you can get them via apt too (apt-get build-deps [package] )
[04:44] <Bacta> and it never works with Firefox
[04:44] <ltR20> it cant find it
[04:44] <chud> hello everyone
[04:44] <AstralJava> pattyD: Try it again, it might just be that a mirror is a bit slow at the time.
[04:44] <AWOSDev> kaot: So how do I set the SSID
[04:45] <Bacta> ok im gonna do some reading...wish me luck guys
[04:45] <FreakerJim> hi chud
[04:45] <kaot> AWOSDev: network manager
[04:45] <leboff> ltr20: correct
[04:45] <lordhelmet> Don: does this return anything? "apt-cache search manager | grep network"
[04:45] <Justin_> Bacta:  Good luck ;D
[04:45] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: maybe I missed it but where do I put in the useEDID "false" and "ExactModeTimingsDVI" TRUE options?
[04:45] <ltR20> ill try again.
[04:45] <AstralJava> Bacta: Good luck, and ask questions before doing anything dramatic. :)
[04:45] <lordhelmet> *away*
[04:45] <Bacta> i'll be back to bitch about it all later :)
[04:45] <xrothgarx> I am googleing it now but can't find much
[04:45] <pattyD> the bad signature error could be a result of a slow mirror?
[04:45] <Justin_> AstralJava:  :))
[04:45] <AstralJava> Bacta: Sure. :)
[04:45] <viator> bacta what sound chipset
[04:45] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: in the "Device" section where you have Driver "nvidia"
[04:45] <ltR20> leboff, grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:45] <ltR20> Error 15: File not found
[04:45] <ltR20> grub>
[04:45] <Bacta> ummm....i'll give u the thread viator...
[04:45] <Justin_> Bacta: Do you have the ess1869 by any change?
[04:46] <AstralJava> pattyD: I've seen that happen.
[04:46] <Justin_> chance?
[04:46] <viator> lspci
[04:46] <Bacta> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242853
[04:46] <chud> i'm having problems with getting wireless configured, I used the information in a forum
[04:46] <ltR20> leboff, im using a live cd
[04:46] <pattyD> ok trying again
[04:46] <leboff> ltR20: thats how i did it..
[04:46] <kaot> ugh.  what kind of crap-ass laptop is designed so that you can't get the battery out without unscrewing stuff?!
[04:46] <Bacta> Justin_: i don't know what that means
[04:46] <kaot> I'll tell you what kind:  the kind i have.
[04:46] <leboff> ltr20: are you root?
[04:46] <ltR20> it's a live CD
[04:46] <chud> it seemed like it helped initially but nothing
[04:46] <ltR20> does it matter
[04:46] <Justin_> Bacta: It's an onboard sound system, I have it - it was a pain to get going
[04:46] <leboff> yah
[04:46] <leboff> ltr20: matters a lot
[04:46] <Bacta> ah can i have ur email address then Justin_??
[04:46] <Don_jr> lordhelmet libnm-util10 - network management framework {utility shared library)  and network-manager-gnome - network management framework (gnome fronted) and network-manager - network management framework (daemon)
[04:47] <Justin_> Actually Ubuntu is the first distro that ever got my sound going :))
[04:47] <Justin_> Bacta, sure -> hukclefish@yahoo.com
[04:47] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: just add a new line with that info?
[04:47] <AstralJava> Need to go to work, take care people. :)
[04:47] <ltR20> leboff, what do i login as?
[04:47] <AWOSDev> Justin, I have an ESS Solo-1 in my computer that I'm thinking about putting Ubuntu on, will that be a problem?
[04:47] <Bacta> thanks
[04:47] <ltR20> from the live cd..
[04:47] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: indeed
[04:47] <Don_jr> Ubuntu is the first nix system I've ever tried, just installed it today
[04:47] <Bacta> Justin_ how did you do it?
[04:47] <Justin_> AWOSDev: Should not be a problem - but if you guys need help with it - I have put the solution up on my blog, you could always see if it works
[04:47] <Justin_> http://xfceubuntu.blogspot.com
[04:47] <AWOSDev> Justin_ okay
[04:48] <Justin_> It's a small blog should be at the top
[04:48] <dashriKe> merp
[04:48] <Justin_> Bacta: Give that a try
[04:48] <anthony_> AWOSDev, wonderful.  many thanks
[04:48] <dashriKe> anybody have an extra socket A mobo laying around?
[04:48] <Bacta> ok...i'll email u if i can't get it working :p
[04:48] <AWOSDev> kaot: I typed it correctly now it still doesn't work
[04:48] <leboff> ltr20: just open the terminal and type 'su'
[04:48] <Justin_> The post is called "restart alsa"
[04:48] <AWOSDev> anthony_ no problem, I use Kate for HTML and C :)
[04:48] <arch_initcall> anyone knows the version oh Xorg in edgy ?
[04:48] <Bacta> ok
[04:48] <Bacta> see u guys soon
[04:48] <DARKGuy> *sigh* well alright, can someone tell me what's the name or where can I find the startup script files for the normal user and my root user so I can make a copy and login with my normal user?
[04:48] <Justin_> Bacta, laters
[04:48] <Bacta> thanks Justin_ :)
[04:48] <FreakerJim> Got a quick newbie question, if anyone can help... Just istalled Ubuntu earlier today, loving it so far - can anyone suggest a good location to download extras that are all bundled together in iso form? I saw some 'extras' isos when I DLed ubuntu and shoulda grabbed em then, but I didnt.. :/
[04:49] <Don_jr> lordhelmet there is a network-manager-gnome if that helps any?
[04:49] <kaot> AWOSDev: try setting it with sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid blah, see what that does, and I'll brb, need a screwdriver.
[04:49] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: with a kde restart I should have those options now of 720p / 1080i? (and how do I restart xsession from the terminal?)
[04:49] <viator> bb
[04:49] <Justin_> xrothgarx: startx
[04:49] <chud> does anybody know how to get a broadcom 4306 running wireless?
[04:49] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: Maybe I don't know I don't use KDE/GNOME on my mythbox
[04:49] <chud> I tried using forums but it didn't work
[04:49] <AWOSDev> kaot: Okay
[04:49] <AWOSDev> I wonder what kaot needs a screwdriver for?  :)
[04:50] <synic> kaot: hey
[04:50] <Don_jr> AWOSDev probably to drink ;-)
[04:50] <AWOSDev> chud: I have a 4318 I'm trying to get working, it doesn't right now
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Don_jr LOL :)
[04:50] <BSG75> woot I got my wifi running using bcm43xx :)
[04:50] <kaosx> does anyone know what codec you need to play mp3's...or a way to convert mp3's to ogg?
[04:50] <fuoco> is there a channel for ppc, powerpc somewhere ?
[04:50] <Flannel> !tell kaosx about mp3
[04:50] <chud> AW0SDev: I'm glad I'm not the only one
[04:50] <Don_jr> BSG75 what card are you using?
[04:50] <BSG75> kaosx:Automagix
[04:50] <AWOSDev> kaosx: go to the
[04:50] <fuoco> or how do i get the people who are responsible for that port ?
[04:50] <AWOSDev> !wiki
[04:50] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[04:51] <BSG75> Don_jr: linksys
[04:51] <AWOSDev> kaosx: and go for "RestrictedFormats"
[04:51] <BSG75> it was a pain to make it work
[04:51] <leboff> so i'm guessing no one was gonna mention a xserver-xorg update cause some video cards to stop being recognized.. and it oculd be fixed with an update..
[04:51] <kaosx> thanks
[04:51] <Don_jr> AWOSDev how would I run network-manager-gnome?
[04:51] <kaosx> I installed all them through automatix...but amarok wont play them
[04:51] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: System->Administration->Networking
[04:51] <AWOSDev> BSG75, Don_jr: I have a Linksys too
[04:51] <kaosx> and totem plays a few seconds and then restarts
[04:51] <fuoco> AWOSDev: 4318 works for me, but with problems
[04:51] <leboff> Don_jr: it should load on boot up.. but nmapplet runs it
[04:51] <Don_jr> okay was afraid of that
[04:51] <eletido> BSG75: that guide worked?
[04:51] <AWOSDev> fuoco: What problems?
[04:52] <BSG75> AWOSDev: the firmwire is busted out of the box in dapper
[04:52] <Justin_> I never update until a major revision, last time I did - caused me nothing but problems.. i'd rather not have little "tweaks" on my system that are basically test code :P
[04:52] <rea> yuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[04:52] <BSG75> eletido: yes and no
[04:52] <Don_jr> I have a green light blinking on my WG511 netgear card, the interface says it's active, but still no internet, any suggestions?
[04:52] <eletido> ?
[04:52] <arch_initcall> What was intel thinking when they designed the i915 !?
[04:52] <fuoco> AWOSDev: i have to be really close to the AP, and not use wpa (haven't tried wep), and unload/reload when switching APs and when suspending
[04:52] <AWOSDev> BSG75: I have a WPC54G ver3 -- is that what you have?
[04:52] <BSG75> eletido: I still had to make my own firware
[04:52] <BSG75> AWOSDev: v2
[04:53] <AWOSDev> fuoco: I use WEP and kaot said he uses WEP and no problems
[04:53] <AWOSDev> BSG75: I have v3
[04:53] <BSG75> brb .. I am going to reboot to see if it holds
[04:53] <leboff> Don_jr , did you install gnome-network manager?
[04:53] <FreakerJim> Does anyone have a location to download ubuntu extras packages in iso form? Like tons of em all in one iso?
[04:53] <rea> gdhgdhfhjhkjjh
[04:53] <AWOSDev> BSG75: You see v2 is alot easier :)
[04:53] <DarkAudit> I'm still getting ICMP hits on firestarter for a port I already opened
[04:53] <jdahm> hey, I seem to be able to control the output of the speakers with ALSA, but not of the headphone jack, which is really loud, is there a way that I can control the output of the headphone jack also?
[04:53] <chud> FreakerJim: I have no clue, sorry
[04:53] <FreakerJim> doh
[04:53] <fuoco> AWOSDev: could be. i haven't bothered to try. i would want to use woa
[04:53] <fuoco> wpa*
[04:53] <bmonkey> cya
[04:53] <Don_jr> leboff it's on yes, I was just on it
[04:54] <Don_jr> leboff I have configured the wep key and it says it's active, but no connection still
[04:54] <Jamminpotato> does the multiverse repository still exist or is it just universe?
[04:54] <leboff> Don_jr: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:54] <AWOSDev> Don_jr: what does iwconfig say?
[04:54] <BSG75> AWOSDev: just use fwcutter to write your own firmwire and then install network-manger-gnome
[04:54] <AWOSDev> jamminpotato: Yes we still have multiverse
[04:54] <leboff> Don_jr: comment out ('#') anything without lo in it.. and restart
[04:54] <BSG75> if u dont' install that .. your nic will keep dying
[04:54] <BSG75> that's what helped me from the article u gave me
[04:54] <BSG75> which is just weird
[04:55] <Jamminpotato> thanks AWOSDev, is it the same address as universe but with multiverse in the place of universe?
[04:55] <BSG75> I was gettng my dhcp addi but I couldn't do anything with it
[04:55] <AWOSDev> jamminpotato: I believe so, let me check
[04:55] <Jamminpotato> thanks you
[04:55] <lastnode> can i safely apt-get upgrade now? i mean, is the xorg-xserver-core package fixed?
[04:55] <fuoco> anyone knows how to make xchat-gnome spell check ?
[04:55] <BSG75> brb .. wish me luck .. if I come back... then my changes held :-p
[04:55] <BSG75> fuoco: ispell?
[04:55] <ltR20> leboff you there?
[04:55] <Don_jr> leboff comment out anything without lo in it?  that would comment out wlan0 woulnd't it?
[04:56] <Don_jr> AWOSDev output on iwconfig is long. IEEE 802.11FH ESSID:off/any
[04:56] <leboff> Don_jr: yeah, but gnome-network-manger needs to take control of you networkin.. so you dont let ubuntu do it really
[04:56] <leboff> Don_jr: i think.. this is just what worked for me
[04:56] <leboff> ltR20: yah
[04:56] <eobanb> does anyone know how i can get rid of gnome-screensaver or whatever it's called and go back to xscreensaver?
[04:56] <Don_jr> AWSODev and then bit rates which is quite low for what it should be, no link quality, signal or noise
[04:56] <AWOSDev> Don_jr Access Point?
[04:56] <leboff> ltR20: are you in a terminal?
[04:57] <Don_jr> AWOSDev the access point shows up in the configuration for me to choose, then askes for my wep key
[04:57] <Don_jr> leboff I'll try that in a sec
[04:57] <ltR20> leboff, yes
[04:57] <ltR20> i type what? sudo?
[04:57] <AWOSDev> Don_jr well you're farther than I am :)
[04:57] <leboff> ltR20: type 'su'
[04:57] <ltR20> what's the default password
[04:57] <ltR20> ?
[04:57] <ltR20> for the live cd
[04:58] <leboff> ltR20: i'm not sure.. maybe its blank.. try enter
[04:58] <Don_jr> AWOSDev I"m not sure what to do, if I change the interfaces file I can change it back later so I'm going to try that next
[04:58] <islan> hey I can't seem to install new themes on ubuntu.  tells me the file type isn't correct, but its *.tar.gz and comes off of gnome-look.org
[04:58] <ltR20> no it's not
[04:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: I went into something called "Wireless Assistant" and it said "hey you wanna connect to your network?"
[04:59] <arch_initcall> OKay I don't get it - I can get 1360x768@60Hz but 1280x720 won't go over 34hz ?!
[04:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: I said yes, typed my password, it said Connecting...
[04:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: But then it said connect failed :(
[04:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: So it *SEES* the AP
[04:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: it just doesn't connect :(
[04:59] <Don_jr> leboff I commented out what you said to do and it's rebooting now
[04:59] <NewtoUbuntu> Will some1 please tell em the website i need to go to learn what files i need to run dvds in totem?
[04:59] <NewtoUbuntu> me*
[04:59] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: looks like I broke kubuntu with the options I added :(  It won't start up now
[05:00] <xrothgarx> I think I added the options wrong
[05:00] <leboff> Don_jr: ok let me know how it goes.. if it fails.. as soon as you goin into system->admin-> networking it will re-write the file
[05:00] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: X won't kill the whole OS
[05:00] <leboff> ltr20: set the password than
[05:00] <Don_jr> leboff Okay, thanx should it just connect on startup now?
[05:00] <arch_initcall> I can send you my xorg.conf file -but I've setup 1920x1080p
[05:00] <AWOSDev> arch_initcall: I believe he meant X won't start up
[05:00] <leboff> ltr20: type sudo passwd
[05:00] <xrothgarx> ya, x won't start
[05:00] <leboff> Don_jr , yeah, you probably need to type in your wep key though
[05:01] <arch_initcall> AWOSDev: Yeah I'm tired - not fast when tired
[05:01] <NewtoUbuntu> When i try to run a dvd in totem it says i dont have the correct plugins installed can some1 tell me the website to find what plugins i need?
[05:01] <xrothgarx> is there a way to start it without x?
[05:01] <Don_jr> leboff not a problem, that'll be the first thing I do if it's not on
[05:01] <xrothgarx> just so I can edit the changes I made?
[05:01] <AWOSDev> xrothgarx: init 3
[05:01] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: yes
[05:01] <Don_jr> leboff the second light on the card should come on when it connects to the router, it hasn't yet....lol
[05:01] <leboff> NewToUbuntu: i suggest automatix..
[05:02] <NewtoUbuntu> automatix is a dvd player?
[05:02] <leboff> Don_jr: .. ehh.. are you in ubuntu already?
[05:02] <islan> is there any way to convert wma to mp3's or ogg?
[05:02] <eletido> NewtoUbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:02] <arch_initcall> anyone knows if 1360x768 is an HDTV resolution ?
[05:02] <Don_jr> leboff no It's loading now
[05:02] <leboff> NewtoUbuntu: it sets up a lot of things ubuntu doesnt by default.. like dvd's mp3's...
[05:02] <AWOSDev> arch_initcall: Wikipedia is your friend :)
[05:02] <chris__> Hello, How do I install drivers for my printer? I downloaded gutenprint.dmg but how do I install it?
[05:02] <NewtoUbuntu> is it in the main repository?
[05:02] <leboff> Don_jr wait til you've actually logged in.. gnome-network-manager should take over
[05:02] <arch_initcall> AWOSDev: I'm not in X :P any wikipedia in lynx is ... urgh
[05:02] <leboff> NewtoUbuntu: no.. i'll find a link
[05:03] <Don_jr> leboff okay
[05:03] <AWOSDev> arch_initcall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Resolution_chart.png
[05:03] <AWOSDev> arch_initcall: disregard my last :P
[05:03] <Don_jr> leboff I've got to figure this out, it freezes up when it get's to "loading hardware drivers" every now and then, and sometimes it loads just fine....
[05:03] <leboff> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:03] <AWOSDev> The HDTV resolutions are
[05:04] <chris__>  Hello, How do I install drivers for my printer? I downloaded gutenprint.dmg but how do I install it?
[05:04] <arch_initcall> AWOSDev: hehe :D 640, 720, 1280, 1920 are the ones I know
[05:04] <AWOSDev> arch_initcall: 640x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1920x1080
[05:04] <leboff> Don_jr.. hm can't help you there.. i've had plenty of freezin in my day.. but not that one
[05:04] <arch_initcall> AWOSDev: Aw crap
[05:04] <Don_jr> leboff that's twice now it's froze up there.....
[05:04] <leboff> Don_jr:  unless its the one where if you have over 1.5 GB of ram with some network cards.. you have a kernel panic.. that one sucks
[05:04] <arch_initcall> well I think mplayer can still do a good job
[05:05] <Don_jr> leboff I've got no where near that much ram
[05:05] <AWOSDev> kaot you back from that screwdriver yet?
[05:05] <xrothgarx> AWOSDev: what standard are you getting those HD resolutions from?  480 isn't HD and I don't know what 720x576 is (sounds like EDTV)
[05:05] <leboff> Don_jr then i dont know.. try ctrl+c during that part of the boot up.. i dont know if you can do it then.. but it skips that portion if you hit it.. i think..
[05:05] <AWOSDev> xrothgarx: Wikipedia
[05:06] <chris__> Anyone know anything about installing printer drivers?
[05:06] <AWOSDev> xrothgarx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Resolution_chart.png
[05:06] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: WIKIPEDIA IS ALREADY RIGHT[/sarcasm] 
[05:06] <Don_jr> leboff will have to try, this is 3 in a row....
[05:06] <arch_initcall> always*
[05:06] <AWOSDev> xrothgarx: 720x576 is actually PAL
[05:06] <leboff> Don_jr .. good luck
[05:06] <xrothgarx> ok, that makes more sense
[05:07] <kaosx> cool
[05:07] <kaosx> I got mp3's playing
[05:07] <kaot> bwaha
[05:07] <kaosx> Just wanna get it working in amarok
[05:07] <AWOSDev> kaot!  You're back!
[05:07] <kaot> So.  I can't turn that laptop off and no way am I taking the whole thing apart now.
[05:07] <mo0se> i'm tryin' to get the quinn package but it says it's not available. :(
[05:07] <kaosx> before I convert them all to ogg
[05:07] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: I'll copy/past my xorg if you want it
[05:07] <islan> but is there any way to convert wma's to mp3s?
[05:07] <Don_jr> leboff yes it skipped it
[05:07] <AWOSDev> kaot: What?
[05:07] <kaot> what what?
[05:07] <leboff> arch_initcall.. did your xserver stop recognizing your screen?
[05:07] <Don_jr> leboff but how do I get them running now?  my network card isn't blinking at all now.....heh
[05:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: What do you mean take the whole thing apart?  Is that why you needed a screwdriver?
[05:08] <arch_initcall> leboff: No - X is ok
[05:08] <leboff> Don_jr: hahah.. shit.. i dont know
[05:08] <kaot> AWOSDev: yeah, there was a little kind of hatch, I thought maybe there was a hard power switch or something useful in there
[05:08] <xrothgarx> arch_initcall: THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> X is ok... Wait, is this a math class!?
[05:08] <kaot> but  itwas just the cmos battery.
[05:08] <xrothgarx> 720p looks great!!
[05:08] <arch_initcall> xrothgarx: got it ? :)
[05:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: I found this interesting utility called "Wireless Assistant"
[05:08] <leboff> arch_initcall: oh ok, cause x stopped recognizing my screen.. damn updates.. they break everything..
[05:08] <kaot> AWOSDev: so to get the battery out i have to take the whole thing apart.  and I won't.
[05:09] <arch_initcall> leboff: edgy ?
[05:09] <AWOSDev> kaot: I have a Compaq Presario 2100 here
[05:09] <leboff> AWOSDev: i use that with my kubuntu laptop.. works like a charm
[05:09] <Don_jr> leboff I'll have to modprobe ndiswrapper I guess
[05:09] <leboff> arch_initcall .. nope
[05:09] <AWOSDev> kaot: Had a mobo problem
[05:09] <AWOSDev> kaot: They told me get the CMOS battery out
[05:09] <arch_initcall> leboff: what did you try ? 720p ? 1080 ?
[05:09] <leboff> Don_jr yeah sound like a good idea.. load it in yourself..
[05:09] <AWOSDev> kaot: You know those ZIF plugs?
[05:09] <kaot> AWOSDev: not by name, which are thsoe?
[05:09] <AWOSDev> kaot: They didn't tell me it was ZIF and I broke it
[05:10] <chris__> Anyone know how to install an Epson sytlus photo 830 printer?
[05:10] <AWOSDev> kaot: Zero Insert Force
[05:10] <leboff> arch_initcall.. nope just a simple update from the package manager managed to break it.. i got everything workin again though..
[05:10] <Don_jr> leboff but it won't work....I coulnd't pull up the terminal cause the monitor drivers didnt' get installed either....this is frustrating
[05:10] <AWOSDev> kaot: You pull up on the little tab and the long thin cable comes out?
[05:10] <kaot> oh oh yeah
[05:10] <leboff> oh, yeah
[05:10] <Don_jr> leboff it told me the child to the terminal program wasn't found
[05:10] <AWOSDev> kaot: they didn't tell me it was ZIF and I pulled and pulled and broke it
[05:10] <kaot> agh
[05:10] <arch_initcall> leboff: Ohh yeah but I had a problem similar to that - DRI stoped working  on a i915
[05:10] <AWOSDev> kaot: They fixed it free of charge since they told me to do it and it didn't say in their instructions or anything :)
[05:11] <leboff> arch_initcall.. yeah all i had to do was upgrade again..
[05:11] <BSG75> it works but it takes a couple of tries sometimes :(
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: Broke the keyboard, touchpad, and LEDs
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: anyways
[05:11] <leboff> Don_jr, hmm i'm not sure what to tell yah
[05:11] <BSG75> and you have to type in the wep key every time
[05:11] <kaot> omg.
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: I ran this "Wireless Assistant" thing
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: it found my ESSID!
[05:11] <kaot> sweet!
[05:11] <arch_initcall> leboff: Lucky :P
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: It asked for the password
[05:11] <AWOSDev> kaot: It said Connecting.....
[05:12] <AWOSDev> kaot: You know what happened then?
[05:12] <BSG75> AWOSDev:  good luck .. it that to me a few times before bailing :)
[05:12] <Don_jr> Anyone know how to find out why I'm locking up when loading hardware drivers?
[05:12] <kaot> AWOSDev: actually yeah I was gonna say, iwlist wlan0 scan will show you ESSIDs too
[05:12] <AWOSDev> kaot: "Connection to theDOMAIN1 (Private) failed"
[05:12] <relachs_> Hi, i want to install wpa-supplicant, what repo must i have to set to universe in order to get it?
[05:12] <kaot> AWOSDev: :(
[05:12] <leboff> Don_jr, maybe you can look through your logs and see what the hold up is in the hardware drivers?
[05:13] <BSG75> well I am gonna call it a night .. dapper definitely screwed the pooch with wifi :D .. I hope they will have a patch soon :)
[05:13] <AWOSDev> Yep iwlist found it too
[05:13] <Don_jr> leboff how do I do that when it won't load?
[05:13] <NewtoUbuntu> After i install libdvdcss2 do i have ot restart my computer for it to work?
[05:13] <kaot> AWOSDev: well, at least we know your card sees the thing.  that's a plus.
[05:13] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu: no .. in linux we usually don't have to reboot :)
[05:13] <Don_jr> leboff booting in recovery mode
[05:13] <AWOSDev> kaot: yep
[05:13] <leboff> Don_jr, if you can manage to get to a terminal just dmesg..
[05:13] <NewtoUbuntu> hmm welll its not working for me bsg75...
[05:13] <AWOSDev> BSG75 yeah that's the neat thing, reboot even less than W2K :)
[05:13] <DARKGuy> I managed to log in in my user by deleting the gnome config, but then I get 5362153 windows, saying something about a CORBA error: (translating from Spanish): Failed adding the client to the server list, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 . Any ideas? :(
[05:14] <BSG75> AWOSDev: LOL
[05:14] <InkChild> Hello
[05:14] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu:  your libcss not working?
[05:14] <adfassfr> HI :O My sound isn't working : ( ESD more specifically, it makes that little sound when GDM starts up but nothing after it. I think I have all the plugins installed but it seems like alsa isn't telling anyone about the sound card; mplayer from the command-line didn't work either
[05:14] <Don_jr> leboff okay what will dmesg tell me?
[05:14] <AWOSDev> kaot: What's left?
[05:14] <NewtoUbuntu> well totem is nto letting play dvds even after i have installed it
[05:14] <BSG75> did u install xine?
[05:14] <kaot> AWOSDev: flip side to that is, every so often you make a system change, forget something, 2 months later when you reboot you forgot what you changed and what else you need to do to fix it
[05:14] <chris__> Hello, Anyone know anything about printers?
[05:14] <NewtoUbuntu> i have to install xine?
[05:14] <chris__> and installing them?
[05:14] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu: oh man .. forget totem .. either install mplayer or xine .. xine my fav
[05:15] <kaot> AWOSDev: hex key stuff.
[05:15] <leboff> Don_jr, the last of the system messages of course.. so hopefully it includes the fuck up while loading the drivers
[05:15] <kaot> AWOSDev: or otherwise getting WEP to work
[05:15] <adfassfr> HI :O My sound isn't working : ( ESD more specifically, it makes that little sound when GDM starts up but nothing after it. I think I have all the plugins installed but it seems like alsa isn't telling anyone about the sound card; mplayer from the command-line didn't work either. I have a Creative Audigy, alsamixer works and shows stuff, but nothing else makes sound
[05:15] <DARKGuy> nobody?
[05:15] <NewtoUbuntu> ok sec lemme try using mplayer
[05:15] <AWOSDev> kaot: Well I'll try and grab the WEP key, it finally came up after the power reset
[05:15] <InkChild> somebody knows about dsl connections with username and password? Ubuntu's networking manager doesn't have a username input anywhere, it does for dialup but not for dsl
[05:15] <RamiKassab> hey guys is there not a way to download kdocker for ubuntu using apt-get?
[05:15] <Agent-47>   ?
[05:15] <RamiKassab> I can't find it except for on their site
[05:15] <Don_jr> leboff is there a way that I can get it to stop at 1 page at a time?  I can't see everythign it's telling me
[05:15] <kaot> AWOSDev: you can also see if you're at least associated yet in iwconfig
[05:15] <BSG75> do u have the link to the wiki?
[05:16] <BSG75> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:16] <leboff> Don_jr: yes dmesg|less
[05:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: no not yet
[05:16] <kaot> man I'm ticked about that other laptop, that's the one I use for tunes.
[05:16] <Don_jr> leboff and if I'm looking at an error, I don't know it.  last line says "cdrom: open failed"  and I havn't touched the CDrom
[05:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: Why no tunes?
[05:16] <kaot> AWOSDev: you can get into the access point now?
[05:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes I can
[05:16] <kaot> AWOSDev: this laptop's got a busted headphone jack
[05:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: from another computer
[05:16] <NewtoUbuntu> whats the full name for xine?
[05:16] <NewtoUbuntu> is that the full name?
[05:16] <AWOSDev> kaot: Well then just use the speakers :)
[05:16] <kaot> AWOSDev: sweet, yeah, see if you can get that key
[05:17] <leboff> Don_jr.. hmm
[05:17] <lordhelmet> NewToUbuntu: use apt-cache search <thing to search> to find out
[05:17] <islan> it keeps on giving me "File Format Invalid" error when I try to install a theme, but it's in .tar.gz, what gives?
[05:17] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu: goto the wiki .. it will show u step by step what to do
[05:17] <AWOSDev> xine-ui
[05:17] <agt> !ru >> Agent-47
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Don_jr> leboff I opened and closed the cdrom and rebooting.....lol
[05:17] <kaot> oh wait.  I've got the emergency winbox with winamp on it.
[05:17] <NewtoUbuntu> im nto sure what im looking for bsg75
[05:17] <kaot> whee?  (gag)
[05:17] <InkChild> factoids? are we original or what ^^
[05:18] <AWOSDev> NewtoUbuntu: it's xine-ui
[05:18] <RamiKassab> guys I am getting a ton of errors when I try to compile kdocker from source. they instruct you to run qmake first the make afterwards. the qmake command has no output but make gives me source code errors left and right. Kdocker requires Qt but i've installed that (correctly I hope). Any help with debugging this?
[05:18] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu:  I strongly recommend you follow the page line by line .. it will also help you watch inline media ie: quicktime movies wmv etc
[05:18] <Agent-47> Here Russian are?
[05:18] <NewtoUbuntu> xine-ui is the dvd player
[05:18] <NewtoUbuntu> ?
[05:18] <BSG75> yup
[05:18] <valehru> Hey guys, Im trying to run cedega on a dual head?  has anyone encountered problems with it on ubuntu before?  It was recommended to me that I create a bash script that uses the single head when using cedega...any pointers?
[05:18] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: did you get qt-dev?
[05:18] <lordhelmet> New; yes
[05:18] <lampshade> does flash for everyone else just basically use 100% cpu becaue when I use it in either Opera or Firefox it just lags like all hell.  (nonfree version)
[05:18] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: I believe I did, let me try to install it and see if it says it's already installed
[05:18] <wolfmanz> Anyone not able to get thier ATI driver working?
[05:19] <Don_jr> leboff wow opening and closing the cd rom worked
[05:19] <leboff> haha no way
[05:19] <leboff> Don_jr: never would have guessed
[05:19] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: qt-dev doesn't exist?
[05:19] <BSG75> wolfmanz:  ati busted their driver from anything below 9500
[05:19] <Don_jr> leboff it's loading properly now, hopefully the network manager will take over again.  But no light blinky on my card
[05:19] <adfassfr> Ah-ha!, just my user can't hit the sound card.
[05:19] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: Let me see what I can find.
[05:19] <leboff> Don_jr,, now for that network thing..
[05:19] <adfassfr> How do I add someone to a group again?
[05:19] <BSG75> I got it working on my 9700 .. no to 9200
[05:19] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: sry i ran away, did you find the networkmanager?
[05:19] <wolfmanz> BSG75: i have a 9800 pro
[05:19] <leboff> lordhelmet: i've been tryin my best to take care of him..
[05:19] <BSG75> wolfmanz:  you should be flying with fglrx
[05:20] <Don_jr> lordhelmet yes I did and leboff is helpin me a bit, maybe between the both of you I can get on....lol
[05:20] <BSG75> wolfmanz:  did u follow the wiki?
[05:20] <wolfmanz> BSG75: its set to fglx but when i run fglrxinfo that messa driver is showing up
[05:20] <lordhelmet> Don: btw what wireless card to u have that you are using ndis for?
[05:20] <wolfmanz> BSG75: i used easy ubuntu to install the ati driver
[05:20] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: thanks, they have qt3-dev-tools and qt4-dev-tools... are either of those correct?
[05:20] <Don_jr> leboff I'm all loaded up and no network manager is running, should I open it?
[05:20] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I have the netgear WG511
[05:20] <leboff> Don_jr.. theres no weird green thing in the task bar in the top right?
[05:21] <BSG75> wolfmanz: if you are running out of freq for your monitor .. just rename the xorg.conf.orig to xorg.conf and change your video adapto to fglrx
[05:21] <Don_jr> leboff no, only the network screen immage and my speaker volume control
[05:21] <lampshade> wolfmanz:  should be set to "fglrx" in the xorg.conf I don't know if that was a typo on your part or if you actually have it in the xorg.conf wrong
[05:21] <BSG75> wolfmanz: that will explain it :)
[05:21] <leboff> Don_jr, like a network screen with a lil red x?
[05:21] <Don_jr> leboff should I modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:21] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: libqt3-headers sounds useful
[05:21] <kaot> whoa Beckett's pitching a 2-hit shutout into the 5th...
[05:21] <BSG75> wolfmanz:  you should have your original xorg.conf saved .. rename that back to xorg.conf
[05:21] <adfassfr> oh, root is my only group : ( how do I make my other groups and how do I add people to them? or how do I make my sound card accessible from my user?
[05:21] <Don_jr> leboff I have a network screen, but it's black screen no red X no green, just blank
[05:21] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: so does libqt3-mt-dev
[05:21] <BSG75> make sure you rename the current one and not delete
[05:22] <Don_jr> leboff mouse-over shows network connection: lo
[05:22] <Drako60> anyone know of any problems with Dapper and VIA chipsets on AM2 MBs, with AMD64 X2?
[05:22] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: libqt3-mt-dev is labled "- Qt development files (Threaded)"
[05:22] <leboff> Don_jr hmm.. what happens when you click on it
[05:22] <islan> how can I know if a theme on the net works before I download it?  this is really annoying...
[05:22] <linux__alien> Drako60, sound problems?
[05:22] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: well damn I don't know which to install. does it cause problems when I just start installing whatever I "think" may be it?
[05:22] <Drako60> UDMA problems
[05:22] <Don_jr> leboff opens up connection properties and lo is the only connection available
[05:22] <BSG75> well good night guys .. this was .. umm fun
[05:22] <lampshade> adfassfr: You can always go to System >> Administration >> Users and groups and add that user to sound if need by.  Most  of the time in my experience, though, they are added by default.  Make sure your volume isn't down all the way because for some reason it defaults to that a lot.....
[05:22] <leboff> Don_jr ah, interesting..
[05:22] <Don_jr> leboff i"m going to modprobe ndiswrapper and see if my light blinks or not
[05:23] <NewtoUbuntu> hmm im using xine.. and it wont read encrypted dvds.
[05:23] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: In most cases no. The worst that happens is that you waist disk space.
[05:23] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: I'm gonna install libqt4-dev to see if that works
[05:23] <wolfmanz> BSG75: it is fglrx and when i did this install a few days ago the ati driver working no problem this time i did a new install on the same system and done everything the same and the ati driver isnt working it dont make sence
[05:23] <leboff> Don_jr, ok .. maybe you could check if ndiswrapper already loaded or not
[05:23] <BSG75>  Don_jr: ndiswrapper didn't do it for me .. I couldn't change my essid :(
[05:23] <xnull> how do I install WIN32 codecs ?
[05:23] <dnite> I'm having a problem booting the livecd.. i never had a problem with 6.06 on the same machine.. but when i boot, it gets as far as 'mounting root filesystem' and just stays there... anyone know how to get around this? I was waiting for the new nvidia drivers to install ubuntu, and now i can't .. x=\
[05:23] <Jamminpotato> i am having trouble mounting my ntfs partition in linux, i have gone through the fstab and mounted it like one normally would but then when i try to read it it says i dont have permission, anyideas?
[05:23] <xnull> !mplayer
[05:23] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[05:23] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:23] <adfassfr> lampshade, thank you; my user isn't because I installed via chroot and never ran a configuration utility.
[05:23] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: but libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-headers should not interfere with other applications as far as I can tell.
[05:23] <Drako60> linux__alien, i'm having UDMA problems, won't let me enable them and the bios recognizes the drives bieing UDMA but the kernel disables it
[05:23] <Don_jr> leboff It ran with no apparent errors, but still no light......should I lsmod?
[05:23] <eletido> BSG75: hmm, ndiswrapper worked great for me.
[05:23] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: that may be why I was having a hard time compiling Quasar for accounting as well
[05:24] <lordhelmet> Don: lsmod to see if it loaded and then dmesg to look for errors
[05:24] <kaot> Jamminpotato: under "options" in fstab try uid=(your username)
[05:24] <phoghawk> Hey, this may be a retarded question but... How do I check which version (32 or 64 bit) of Ubuntu I have installed?
[05:24] <NewtoUbuntu> im trying play an encrypted dvd with xine... ive alreayd installed libdvdread3 but it wont work
[05:24] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: also you might want libqt4-dev if it's a qt4 app
[05:24] <BSG75> letido: lucky you :)
[05:24] <linux__alien> Drako60, i am not aware of UDMA sorry my friend
[05:24] <NewtoUbuntu> can any1 help me?
[05:24] <leboff> Don_jr what happens when you type ndiswrapper -l?
[05:24] <lordhelmet> NewToUbuntu: what's the prob?
[05:24] <kaot> BSG75: what card do you have?
[05:24] <linux__alien> NewtoUbuntu, Your question please
[05:24] <Don_jr> leboff I went back into /etc/network/interfaces and undid what I did before now rebooting
[05:24] <Jamminpotato> kaot: will do
[05:25] <leboff> Don_jr, ok
[05:25] <Don_jr> leboff sorry, happened to fast I'll run that when it loads back up
[05:25] <lampshade> phoghawk: you can go to a command line and try uname -a   and see if it mentions anything about it there
[05:25] <BSG75> kaot: bcm43xx
[05:25] <BSG75> linksys
[05:25] <NewtoUbuntu> it wont read the encrypted dvd even tho ive installed libdvdread3 what do i do?
[05:25] <fierce513> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[05:25] <lampshade> I don't know that that is the best way though so if someone else here knows go with their answer :)
[05:25] <lordhelmet> New: did you get libcss?
[05:25] <AWOSDev> Ah heck
[05:25] <phoghawk> lampshade, nope. anymore ideas?
[05:25] <NewtoUbuntu> correct
[05:25] <Don_jr> I have a blekin card and a netgear WG511.  I didn't see anything about making Belkin work so...
[05:25] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: Now, as a general word of caution. Some applications is not in the repositories because they break other stuff or simply fail to work or have got security flaws that may or may not compromize your system.
[05:25] <BSG75> NewtoUbuntu:  your easiest bet is to install Automagix
[05:25] <lordhelmet> New: and libdvdnav (i think it is)
[05:25] <Don_jr> Anyone know if the Belkin card would work any better?
[05:26] <adfassfr> lampshade, but the group sound doesn't exist either ... if I just make a group called taht will it work?
[05:26] <kaot> BSG75: outstanding!  that's the best series of cards ever.
[05:26] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: I'm not familiar with the apps you are attempting to compile but be careful not to do it on a production machine. :)
[05:26] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: what's the diff between libqt3-mt-dev and just libqt3-dev?
[05:26] <BSG75> kaot: except Dapper forgot to include the firmwire with it LOL :)
[05:26] <NewtoUbuntu> what i dont know what this other file ur talking bout is?
[05:26] <h00t> can anyone help me w/ emule
[05:26] <AWOSDev> kaot: I don't know if that password worked or not
[05:26] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: Quasar is a well know big accounting application... kdocker is also a big one
[05:26] <h00t> i mean amule
[05:26] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: I am guessing mt stands for multi threading.
[05:26] <lampshade> adfassfr: ick, unfortunately I'm not sure.  Not familiar enough with how sound works
[05:26] <kaot> BSG75: not dapper's fault, broadcom are jerks and won't give up the specs
[05:26] <BSG75> kaot: absolutely agree
[05:26] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: do I need to have a specific processor for that?
[05:26] <BSG75> kaot: but we need better directions
[05:26] <BSG75> :)
[05:27] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: probably hyperthreaded processor correct?
[05:27] <Jamminpotato> kaot: thanks for the ntfs tip,
[05:27] <kaot> Jamminpotato: oh ntfs
[05:27] <kaot> duh.
[05:27] <lampshade> yeah broadcom is freaking lame.... I mean intel actually helps the intel driver code once in a while that's why my intel wireless worked out of the box zero config
[05:27] <BSG75> LOL
[05:27] <kaot> ....
[05:27] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: No, multithreading and hyperthreading and for that matter SMP are not the same things.
[05:27] <NewtoUbuntu> lordhelmet whats libdvdnav
[05:27] <kaot> my brain is broken!
[05:27] <BSG75> kaot: I suggest you write to your NTFS :-p
[05:27] <phoghawk> Can anyone tell me how I can see if I have 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu installed?
[05:27] <leboff> Don_jr: i've got to sleep, i wish you luck.. and  hopefully lordhelmet will stick around if you need him
[05:27] <fuoco> anyone knows if right now synaptics installs all the recommended dependencies for a package ?
[05:27] <BSG75> kaot: sorry can't break what I don't have :)
[05:27] <lordhelmet> NewToUbuntu: try 'apt-get install libdvdplay0 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 libdvdcss2'
[05:27] <kaot> BSG75: I feel like my whole mind is ntfs right now  :\
[05:28] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: multi threading is a way to keep the processor busy doing other stuff instead of twinning thumbs while waiting for some other part of the system to do/complete something.
[05:28] <Drako60> phoghawk, uname -a
[05:28] <mister_roboto> uname -a
[05:28] <Don_jr> leboff thanx
[05:28] <phoghawk> Drako60, I did that and didn't see anything about it
[05:28] <lampshade> phoghawk: I'm pretty sure you have 32 bit installed.  otherwise the uname -a I told you would have mentioned it
[05:28] <torch> so I walk into #ubuntu and I say
[05:28] <torch> hello everyone
[05:28] <lordhelmet> lol
[05:28] <kaot> AWOSDev: you got the hex key off the router?
[05:28] <torch> I have this crazy story about earlier today
[05:28] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: so in general it is better to install the mt version on any machine?
[05:28] <torch> check it out:
[05:28] <torch> so I walk into #ubuntu, and I say
[05:28] <phoghawk> Drako60, lampshade, This is my output: Linux ben 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:28] <torch> hello everyone!
[05:28] <BSG75> kaot: I recomment cat /proc/troubles >> /dev/null then fsck world then emerge scotch --nodeps --nointterupt :)
[05:28] <cryptic^zazeem> i dloaded a fre mmorpg game called planeshift and it is a .bin file, how can i install it?
[05:29] <BlueEagle> torch: ...and noone responds because you're not asking a question, no please move along. :)
[05:29] <Drako60> phoghawk, thats 32-bit i386 kernel
[05:29] <kaot> lol
[05:29] <lordhelmet> BSG75: lol
[05:29] <BSG75> good night guys .. thanks for the sanity break :)
[05:29] <phoghawk> Drako60, hmmm.. Can I install the 64bit from the ubuntu disks I got from whatever they call the service where you get free Ubuntu disks? lol.
[05:30] <Drako60> phoghawk, if you ordered 64-bit discs yes, if not they are available for download
[05:30] <phoghawk> Drako60, Thanks :)
[05:30] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: How is your mouse?
[05:31] <lampshade> Anyone experience __really__ high cpu usage with flash in any browser?  (Opera, firefox, etc)?
[05:31] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[05:31] <NewtoUbuntu> its working fine Blueeagel im not using the wireless one
[05:31] <NewtoUbuntu> BlueEagle:
[05:31] <kaot> involutary?
[05:31] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: 02:17 < BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Now I saw this review on http://www.ocia.net/reviews/wkeyboard/wpage3.shtml There is a channel selector in the battery bay of the mouse and there should be a small button that you'll need a pen to press. That's probably the 'connect' button.
[05:31] <Drako60> hmm why can't i get UDMA turned on, this is bugging me and causing serious system slow downs
[05:32] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: ...but at that time you had left.
[05:32] <cryptic^zazeem> i dloaded a fre mmorpg game called planeshift and it is a .bin file, how can i install it?
[05:32] <NewtoUbuntu> o ok
[05:32] <NewtoUbuntu> ill try that
[05:32] <kazukisan> cryptic^zazeem, sh filename.bin
[05:32] <bluefox83> is there a ubuntu source for mplayer?
[05:32] <cryptic^zazeem> thnx
[05:32] <Don_jr> Well I"m about done.....this thing keeps hanging up on 'loading hardware drivers'
[05:32] <bluefox83> !mplayer
[05:32] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[05:32] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:32] <NewtoUbuntu> can some please attempt to install xine-ui and tell me what files it automatically installs so i can remove those?
[05:33] <kazukisan> cryptic^zazeem, you might have to chmod +x file.bin first you also might need sudo for chomod
[05:33] <kazukisan> chmod *
[05:33] <NewtoUbuntu> because im not using xine-ui anymore
[05:33] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: Be sure to press the 'id' button on the reciever (the low battery light should apperantly start flashing) before pressing the little white button with a pen.
[05:33] <Don_jr> Someon tell me a wireless card that will work out of the box please I'll go get a new one tomorrow!
[05:33] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: That is in theory all that is required to make your mouse work.
[05:33] <NewtoUbuntu> kk
[05:33] <cryptic^zazeem> ok thnx <3
[05:33] <BlueEagle> newtoubuntu: oh, and get a hold of K-PAX, it's a great movie. </ot>
[05:34] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thanks BlueEagle
[05:34] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: there's a way to prevent it from loading a driver...just a sec
[05:34] <kaot> Don_jr: I had good luck with intel 2915 chipset with ubuntu
[05:34] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: do you know which one it hangs on?
[05:34] <BOBSONATOR> Hey, does anyone have expirence of GTK2 installing? cause i am having some probs...
[05:34] <valehru> how can you kill the current x windows session in the console?
[05:34] <Don_jr> kaot what cards have that in them? lol
[05:34] <Pseudohead> anything I should download to get my touchpad working? (synaptics)
[05:35] <Don_jr> lordhelmet it doesn't tell me exactly what's stoping it, it only says "loading hardware drivers" and doen'st move any farther
[05:35] <valehru> i.e. I want a script to do ctrl_alt_backspace
[05:35] <Pseudohead> or.. configure, I mean
[05:35] <kaot> Don_jr: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG MiniPCI Adapter (rev 05)
[05:35] <BlueEagle> valehru: try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:35] <kaot> Don_jr: friend gave it to me, I dunno what it says on the box :\
[05:35] <BlueEagle> valehru: it will basically do the same thing (restart the X-server(
[05:35] <valehru> BlueEagle, thanks
[05:35] <valehru> lemme try it out
[05:35] <Don_jr> kaot damn....I've heard D-links may work? lol
[05:35] <valehru> thanks
[05:36] <BlueEagle> valehru: np. :)
[05:36] <BlueEagle> Where did newtoubuntu go? o.O
[05:36] <kaot> Don_jr: dunno.  Maybe?  Haven't tried it yet.
[05:36] <ubuntu> hi guys
[05:36] <Don_jr> I hate to say this, but I had alot less problems with debian.....
[05:37] <Jamminpotato> i have one more question and after this i'll go away for a few hours,
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> We reached our limit of new uses and shut it down
[05:37] <ubuntu> i have a small query
[05:37] <Jamminpotato> i have a 1680x1050 resolution monitor, and im having trouble getting it to run that resolution in ubuntu
[05:37] <ubuntu> regarding lilo in ubuntu
[05:37] <Jamminpotato> i tried editing xorg.conf
[05:37] <Jamminpotato> but to no avail
[05:37] <Don_jr> Finally it loaded
[05:37] <galoi1> what I make to change utf-8 for iso8859-1?
[05:37] <lampshade> wow, so you know how I was just complaining about 100% cpu usage with flash in any web browser?
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: What video card..
[05:37] <lampshade> turns out it was xorg
[05:37] <lampshade> even weirder, I turn on XGL, and the problem is gone
[05:37] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: 9800pro
[05:37] <cryptic^zazeem> kazukisan: zazeem@zazilla:~$ chmod +x /home/zazeem/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin zazeem@zazilla:~$ sudo sh /home/zazeem/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin  /home/zazeem/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin: /home/zazeem/Desktop/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015b.bin: cannot execute binary file
[05:38] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: ok so libqt3-mt-dev helped with make
[05:38] <Eppcott> Hello, I hope someone here can help me with my problem.
[05:38] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: good stuff. :)
[05:38] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: I'm still getting one error though and I don't know where to start with it
[05:38] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: you just let it sit and it finally went
[05:38] <lordhelmet> ?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: How did you install the ati drivers
[05:38] <Don_jr> Okay, back to square 1.  got 1 blinky light that's green, no others, any help??
[05:38] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: can ya help plz
[05:38] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: good news is, I can now compile Quasar at least :)
[05:38] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: googling the error message usually helps.
[05:38] <Don_jr> lordhelmet no, was the 4rth restart
[05:38] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: with lilo and ubuntu?
[05:38] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: ok I'll look around... mind if I bother you if nothing turns up?
[05:38] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  yes
[05:38] <marshall_> hey guys
[05:38] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: uh..... i havent installed any, i just did the base install
[05:38] <ubuntu> i wana install lilo on ubuntu
[05:39] <marshall_> is there any way at all tog et gmailfs working in dapper?
[05:39] <cryptic^zazeem> when i type sudo sh nameoffile.bin it says cannot execute a binary file :/
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: I'm on my way to bed, besides I rarely compile stuff and even rearer are they QT apps. :)
[05:39] <Eppcott> Firefox will no longer start for me on Ubuntu.
[05:39] <cryptic^zazeem> help pleae
[05:39] <Don_jr> lordhelmet okay I have green blinky light, nothing else, I'll go double check my network settings.  The card shows that it sees my router I put in the wep key and still no net
[05:39] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: to stop a driver from loading (if you know which one) add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Well what is the problem with lilo and ubuntu?
[05:39] <AWOSDev> *sigh*
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > Jamminpotato
[05:39] <Jamminpotato> not ati is better than me?
[05:39] <marshall_> Eppcott:  do you have extensions on it?
[05:39] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  cant get it to install
[05:39] <ubuntu> have u ever tried installing there?
[05:39] <marshall_> lol
[05:39] <Don_jr> lordhelmet alright
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Getting an error message there?
[05:39] <Eppcott> I did, yes.
[05:39] <lampshade> Jamminpotato: I would follow this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  I it worked perfectly
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: what?
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: oh, and why would you want lilo?
[05:40] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: ! = not in a lot of programming, ergo !ATI > Jamminpotato
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: ati or nvidia or ?
[05:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: I disconnected my integrated LAN and that's why my IRC died :(
[05:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: doh
[05:40] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  wana dual boot
[05:40] <Don_jr> lordhelmet okay network settings shows wireless connection interface wlan0 is active
[05:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: Obviously it doesn't work
[05:40] <cryptic^zazeem> anyone please :(
[05:40] <Don_jr> lordhelmet but I still have no internet
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: What model of video card..
[05:40] <AWOSDev> kaot: Did you see though that I said it connected?
[05:40] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: and grub won't let you do that?
[05:40] <jshriver> hi
[05:40] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: can you connect without WEP/WPA? i was having this problem in Gentoo where my ipw3945 would work w/o security, but bork with
[05:40] <cryptic^zazeem> i dloaded a free mmorpg game called planeshift and it is a .bin file, how can i install it?
[05:40] <marshall_> Eppcott:  for soem reason firefox isnt doing very well with extensions right now, i think if you somehow make a new profile, or reinstall firefox it should be okay
[05:40] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: ok thank you for the help man
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: I also need to go in a minute
[05:40] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: i have ubuntu here with grub
[05:40] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: i said it was a 9800pro
[05:40] <RamiKassab> BlueEagle: take care
[05:40] <BlueEagle> ramikassab: np. :)
[05:40] <kaot> AWOSDev: I think last I saw you weren't sure if the password worked
[05:40] <marshall_> Eppcott:  you can back up your bookmarks and stuff
[05:40] <ubuntu> wana install slackware with lilo
[05:40] <lordhelmet> cryptic: check website, or chmod +x the file and ./file
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: 9800 pro WHAT
[05:40] <AWOSDev> AWOSDev: right I wasn't
[05:41] <jshriver> Whenever I login to GDM all I get is a brown screen, sees like my startup gdm scripts are borked.. but if I login from the console as root, and do startx it all works.. how can I fix this?
[05:41] <ubuntu> wont lilo erase grub?
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: right I wasn't
[05:41] <Don_jr> lordhelmet no I have no way of removing it that I know of.
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Then I said
[05:41] <cryptic^zazeem> lordhelmut: whats thew chmod cmd layout?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: You can use the grub that ubuntu installed to boot slack.
[05:41] <jshriver> or how can I reset the default
[05:41] <Eppcott> marshall_: I'm not too concerned about losing my bookmarks, since they're on del.icio.us anyway.
[05:41] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean its an ati radeon 9800pro
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Successfully connected to 'theDOMAIN1 (Private)' at 23:23:23
[05:41] <Eppcott> but do I have to uninstall Firefox in order to reinstall?
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: I know ati made one, is yours made by someone else?
[05:41] <Don_jr> lordhelmet going to my router page to see if I can dissable it or not, but I don't think I can
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: IT WORKED!  IT REALLY WORKED!
[05:41] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: you can't turn off the security?? every router defaults to having no security...
[05:41] <jshriver> hrm
[05:41] <fogos> is there a way to startx  as normal user?
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Thank you SO SO VERY VERY much!
[05:41] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: it shouldnt matter who made it should it?
[05:41] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: like install slackware, then boot from live cd chroot and install grub again?
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: Then I said it was time for the 'big test'
[05:41] <AWOSDev> kaot: which obviously failed :(
[05:42] <lordhelmet> cryptic: 'man chmod' for info
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: Ok...You need the drivers for the chipset in your video card to generate the res you want
[05:42] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: You can even have it chain-load the lilo menu that slack wants to install by having slack install lilo to the partition it's on and not the MBR.
[05:42] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I have a 2wire router/modem combo.  It's my DSL modem and a wireless and 4 port wired router all in one box
[05:42] <Jamminpotato> Jack_Sparrow: wel thats annoying
[05:42] <lampshade> Jamminpotato: it shouldn't matter, just an ATI card will use the ATI binary driver.  I would follow the instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and see if that works out and then troubleshoot from there.  I followed those instructions and had 0 problems
[05:42] <kaot> AWOSDev: I don't think any of that got through :\  ok, open a term, iwconfig, see ifyou're associated to the ap
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: WHich means you must load the drivers as per the link I gave you !ATI
[05:42] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Well if you've got lilo now it will probably be easy enough to add an entry for ubuntu there.
[05:42] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: that is the thing i dont have lilo now
[05:42] <synic> Jamminpotato: if loading required drivers is annoying, you might try another OS.
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Jamminpotato: What is anoying.. like Windows dosent need a driver?
[05:43] <ubuntu> that is why i wana install it, so it is easy to edit lilo.conf file
[05:43] <Jamminpotato> i was just kidding
[05:43] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: However I haven't used lilo since Mandrake 8.2 or something so I do unfortunately not remember the syntax.
[05:43] <Jamminpotato> gosh
[05:43] <AWOSDev> Access Point: 00:16:B6:08:6D:F7
[05:43] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: you should still be able to disable the wireless security...if you can't...*pulls collar*...go spend 50 bucks (CDN) on a linksys
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bye
[05:43] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: oh.. well then what have you got? :)
[05:43] <kaot> AWOSDev: you're seeing the essid in there?
[05:43] <Jamminpotato> synic:  you seem a bit cynical
[05:43] <ubuntu> grub now
[05:43] <Jamminpotato> thanks jack_sparrow
[05:43] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes
[05:43] <lampshade> Jamminpotato: its cool, try the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and see if it works out I think people in here are stressing over this too much
[05:43] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I have a belkin router that works just fine, but I can't connect my dsl modem to it
[05:43] <AWOSDev> eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"theDOMAIN1 (Private)"
[05:43] <cryptic^zazeem> lordhelmut: it says use the run command and it will unpack the binary, on the site.  Whats the run cmd?
[05:43] <ubuntu> wana change bootloader to lilo
[05:43] <kaot> AWOSDev: ifconfig wlan0, look for an IP addrss
[05:43] <Jamminpotato> lampshade: i just started on that thanks
[05:44] <lordhelmet> cryptic: it means run the file you downloaded
[05:44] <AWOSDev> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:BF:D8:C4:20   inet addr:192.168.1.100
[05:44] <AWOSDev> kaot: That's the same IP I got in Windows
[05:44] <BlueEagle> !lilo
[05:44] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[05:44] <cryptic^zazeem> loedhelmut: when i double click it it opens with cxoffice :/
[05:44] <cryptic^zazeem> lordhelmut: when i double click it it opens with cxoffice :/
[05:44] <Jamminpotato> what would i do without this irc channel?
[05:45] <AWOSDev> Jamminpotato: I don't know what *any* of us would do without this IRC channel :)
[05:45] <lordhelmet> cryptic: what's the game again? also did you 'chmod +x <file>; ./<file>'
[05:45] <Don_jr> lordhelmet my router reads that there is an unknown wireless device within range....
[05:45] <ryan_> im a nob...how do i get premissions to write to my fstab
[05:45] <Jamminpotato> AWOSDev: hooray irc!
[05:45] <kaot> AWOSDev: you should be good to go, basically OMG vlad guerrero double play to end the inning WOO
[05:45] <Ash-Fox> Don_jr, IT'S A TRAP!
[05:45] <Eppcott> marshall_: I'm assuming I can uninstall it with Symantic Package Manager and then use that to reinstall it as well.
[05:45] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Well I've never tried that, and in fact I find grub to be superiour. However it is possible to install lilo. What you need is the lilo package (obviously) and then set up your lilo.conf (ususally in /etc) then install the bootloader with sudo lilo
[05:45] <AWOSDev> ryan_: sudo kate fstab
[05:45] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: but there is no option to disable the security, or set it to none?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: there should be a man entry for lilo.conf iirc
[05:45] <cryptic^zazeem> lordhelmut: the game is planeshift
[05:46] <kaot> ahem.  okay anyway, you should be good to go at this point except for maybe network manager getting confused.
[05:46] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I have wep open, wep shared and wpa psk as options
[05:46] <AWOSDev> ryan_: I mean try typing "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:46] <lampshade> network manager is made of win and cool
[05:46] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: there's also a package called 'lilo-config' which is a QT front-end to setting up lilo.
[05:46] <Don_jr> lordhelmet is wep shared meaning no security?
[05:46] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: I hope that helps.
[05:46] <kaot> AWOSDev: when you disconnected your nic, you did that through network manager?
[05:46] <hush> I need some help fixing my ubuntu :(
[05:46] <AWOSDev> kaot: Huh?  No I pulled the plug :D
[05:47] <Eppcott> marshall_: should I tell Symantic Package Manager to "Mark For Removal" or "Mark For Complete Removal"?
[05:47] <kaot> AWOSDev: ah, there ya go.  probably your default route was still via the nic.
[05:47] <jshriver> Can someone help me with some gdm problems?
[05:47] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: no, just a different kind of wep
[05:47] <kaot> AWOSDev: try deactivating it in network manager, that should bring it down completely
[05:47] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: what other options you see
[05:47] <Jamminpotato> AWOSDev: are you a devolper of somethign or is it jut your handle
[05:47] <varsendaggr> hello    how do i rip and encode a cd to mp3   so that the files are about 5 mb    i am comming up with 30 mb files
[05:48] <AWOSDev> Jamminpotato: I am an OS Dev-eloper
[05:48] <AWOSDev> kaot: So if I type "ifup eth0 down" and it is working right
[05:48] <AWOSDev> kaot: then it won't disconnect me from IRC?
[05:48] <Jamminpotato> AWOSDev: any particular os's in particular?
[05:48] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I can set the key to my own choosing instead of default and speed and channel
[05:48] <jshriver> I can't get X running, if I run startx from root it works fine, but I can't login via GDM to use my user account
[05:48] <AWOSDev> Jamminpotato: Yes, AWOS :)
[05:48] <cryptic^zazeem> lordhelmut: it works chmoded it
[05:48] <hush> I'm pretty sure I have the messed up ubuntu update problem that is posted on Ubuntu.com - but I can't figure out how to fix it
[05:48] <AWOSDev> Jamminpotato: http://code.google.com/p/awos
[05:48] <jshriver> it's like it's not loading gnome2 , etc
[05:48] <lordhelmet> cryptic: :)
[05:48] <AWOSDev> Jamminpotato: Also going in to WINE development
[05:48] <lampshade> hush: it has already been fixed
[05:48] <kaot> AWOSDev: ...yanno, that's a good question.  I think it might actually knock you off irc.  reconnecting should be no problem.
[05:48] <lampshade> hush: from the command line sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:48] <hush> lampshade: mine hasn't
[05:48] <marshall_> Eppcott:  i think complete removal would be best
[05:49] <Don_jr> lordhelmet when I clicked on 'properties' in the network settings the yellow light blinked for a moment then stopped
[05:49] <AWOSDev> I'll knock myself off.  Goodbye everybody
[05:49] <marshall_> Eppcott:  that way it wipes all your configurations and profiles
[05:49] <hush> lampshade: i did all of those things - mine is still messed up
[05:49] <ToHellWithGA> is there some file with a log of what i see at startup?  regarding which modules loaded and failed and all that
[05:49] <lampshade> hush: the new package should be downloaded and installed (it did for me)
[05:49] <omoore> if there are any ubuntu maintainers here.. bang up job.. i'm really impressed with ubuntu
[05:49] <lampshade> hush: crap... I don't know then :-/
[05:49] <Eppcott> marshall_: Thanks.
[05:49] <hush> lampshade: yeah it sucks :(
[05:49] <lampshade> hush: maybe try a dist-upgrade  :-/ ?
[05:49] <marshall_> Eppcott:  np
[05:49] <Vaske_Car> is there Linux software that can edit .PSD files (photoshop) ?
[05:49] <hush> lampshade: i did :(
[05:50] <marshall_> does anybody know if its possible to get gmailfs working?
[05:50] <hush> lampshade: think i should reinstall? it wont hurt me any.. i've only had ubuntu for 5 or so days
[05:50] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: poke around for a couple minutes in every conceivable options corner you can find, or check your router documentation to see if you can disable it completely....if it can connect w/o encryption, at least that's a step.
[05:50] <lordhelmet> hush: when i first started playing, i reinstalled so often :)
[05:50] <Don_jr> lordhelmet what ya mean without encryption?
[05:51] <x81> how do i install skype in ubuntu 6.06? i jst downloaded it and when i try to install it i get a message which says that i need to grant permission. but when i clik on the grant button, the window jst closed
[05:51] <lordhelmet> hush: it was kind of depressing
[05:51] <bluefox83> whats the name of the windows media codecs?
[05:51] <hush> lordhelmet: lol cool - how do i do it? just pop the live CD back in and go from there?
[05:51] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: i mean to disable WEP completely, to test
[05:51] <bluefox83> !w32codecs
[05:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:51] <lampshade> hush: no idea, you probably want someone in the channel with more xorg expertise.  I'm very limited in the knowledge I can hand out in the room.  Usually if my first solution fails I got nothing.
[05:51] <lordhelmet> hush: yep :)
[05:51] <hush> lordhelmet: what probs did you have - why did you reinstall, mine is messed up from the update error :(
[05:51] <Jamminpotato> is there anyway to reboot x without rebooting everything?
[05:51] <lordhelmet> hush: oh the crazy xorg problem? i thought it got fixed right away?
[05:51] <lampshade> x81: hmm that's weird.  I've installed it that way before fine.  Try opening up a command line and then doing sudo dpkg -i skypelfilenamehere.deb
[05:52] <lampshade> see if any errors or anything are listed
[05:52] <hush> lordhelmet: not mine.. it tells me that it is already up to date but still wont let me into ubuntu
[05:52] <Jamminpotato> do i have to completely reboot to restart x
[05:52] <bruenig> jamminpotato, do ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[05:52] <lampshade> hush: tried the dist-upgrade too?
[05:53] <Jamminpotato> ythanks
[05:53] <hush> lampshade: yeah :(
[05:53] <lampshade> hrmmm
[05:53] <hush> lampshade: upgrade, update, dist-upgrade
[05:53] <lampshade> hush: when you type startx from a command line what happens
[05:53] <lordhelmet> hush: ....i would suggest google around for a couple more minutes, search the forums, and if you haven't found a solution in about 10 minutes, just reinstall....it takes no time; especially if you haven't been playing that long
[05:53] <bruenig> x is started
[05:53] <lampshade> hush: are any errors listed by chance?
[05:54] <lordhelmet> hush: the more knowledge you gain, the longer you spend on problems, until you can fix everything without EVER rebooting :)
[05:54] <hush> lampshade: what is startx - never did that one
[05:54] <lampshade> hush: it is like the manual start xorg command instead of something like /etc/init.d/gdm start or other commands
[05:54] <lordhelmet> hush: startx.....starts......X..... lol
[05:54] <bruenig> once you learn your way around /etc/init.d, you can pretty much do whatever you need without rebooting
[05:54] <lampshade> it is more basic and usually will say some erros
[05:55] <Eppcott> marshall_: I did a complete uninstall of Firefox, reinstalled it, and it still acts the same way
[05:55] <x81> lampshade: i got this error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:55] <hush> lampshade: nope no errors, it lets me login at the normal login prompt.. and then it goes to a maroon colored background and never does anything.. i can move the mouse and all but nothing ever loads onto the screen except maroon :(
[05:55] <bruenig> Eppcott, what is the problem?
[05:55] <marshall_> Eppcott:  what does it do?
[05:55] <lordhelmet> x81: either you are running another apt-get/synaptic/whatever somewhere else or didn't sudo
[05:55] <marshall_> does anybody know if its possible to get gmailfs working?
[05:56] <hush> lampshade: does nothing*** not anything
[05:56] <bruenig> apt-get install gmailfs?
[05:56] <lordhelmet> hush: try 'aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop' then after it uninstalls everything, 'aptitude install ubuntu-desktop;
[05:56] <AWOSDev> Ugh well this sucks
[05:56] <blithe> I never could get gmailfs to do anything for me. :P
[05:56] <cdg52> i have issue whre when i run the updater, it will simply reload and not install any updates and apt-get upgrade installs everything but xgl stuff
[05:56] <AWOSDev> I'm on my Linux router
[05:56] <Mixx> didn't they start blocking gmailfs?
[05:56] <kaot> ...
[05:56] <hush> lordhelmet: whats that do
[05:56] <kaot> damn.  I thought you'd be good to go
[05:56] <lordhelmet> AWOSDev: and that's bad?
[05:57] <x81> lordhelmet: i did sudo. how do i stop the others?
[05:57] <AWOSDev> running sudo ifconfig eth1 down killed my laptop
[05:57] <kaot> what the whole thing?
[05:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: No just networking
[05:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: Google won't even come up
[05:57] <lordhelmet> hush: will uninstall everything (hopefully) ubuntu-desktop brought in, and then you reinstall it all again...might take a little while, but worth a shot
[05:57] <kaot> AWOSDev: oh.  you got more than one computer there?
[05:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: No Google, no Wikipedia, no freenode :(
[05:57] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes I have the Linux router
[05:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: Cable modem->Linux router->Switch->Laptop
[05:58] <hush> lordhelmet: so try that first, before uninstalling ubuntu
[05:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: Thank heavens
[05:58] <Don_jr> lordhelmet sorry, I did shut the security off and had to reconfigure my XP box here to see it, but security is off now
[05:58] <bjron> hey, anyone know of a tool or script that will let me rotate a movie 90 degrees?
[05:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: I have a total of 12 computers here :)
[05:58] <kaot> :O  sweet
[05:58] <lordhelmet> x81: shutdown synaptic or whatever else, then kill any other processes manually or let them finish (ps aux, look for the process, then kill <process)
[05:58] <AWOSDev> So I *never* have to worry about one going down :)
[05:58] <lordhelmet> AWOSDev: bah i only have 6
[05:58] <AWOSDev> 7 have NICs :)
[05:58] <kaot> AWOSDev: ok, so as it stands, the other box is more or less offline with eth1 down
[05:58] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I still don't have a connection on my wireless card though and ubuntu is reloading as we speak
[05:58] <AWOSDev> kaot: Even with eth1 up
[05:58] <kaot> AWOSDev: but ifconfig wlan0 shows you've got an IP
[05:59] <DanaG> Yay, I fixed my DHCP!
[05:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: once I ran "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" it killed it
[05:59] <cdg52> i have issue whre when i run the updater, it will simply reload and not install any updates and apt-get upgrade installs everything but xgl stuff
[05:59] <DanaG> I figured out what it was:
[05:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: even running "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" didn't fix it
[05:59] <DanaG> I needed to add
[05:59] <DanaG> send-hostname "m685"
[05:59] <Eppcott> when I start Firefox, the "Starting Firefox Web Browser" appears in the "windows list" bar next to my other applications, but the application itself never appears on my desktop. The "waiting/working" circular cursor keeps spinning around and around for a minute. When it stops, the "Starting Firefox Web Browser" disappears from the "windows list" bar, and that's it.
[05:59] <sc0ri0n> does anyone know what's the fix for gnome network manager applet icon that tells me I have no network connectivity right now ?
[05:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: ifconfig shows both eth0 *and* eth1 have IPs
[05:59] <DanaG> to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:59] <AWOSDev> kaot: but neither works anymore :(
[05:59] <kaot> AWOSDev: ... wait, it shows as eth1 not wlan0?
[05:59] <DanaG> (replace m685 with your hostname)
[05:59] <Jamminpotato> well that didnt go very well
[06:00] <Don_jr> I still only have a green blinky light and no connection on my internet connections.  in the interface properties it does show the router
[06:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: Sorry yes I meant eth0 down not eth1 down :)
[06:00] <bruenig> eppcott, do "whereis firefox" in the terminal and paste the output
[06:00] <Jamminpotato> i defeintly messed up my xorg.conf, was giant pain in the but
[06:00] <lampshade> Eppcott: it might just be locked up in memory.  Open a terminal and try killall firefox-bin
[06:00] <kazukisan> cryptic^zazeem, you might have to chmod +x file.bin first you also might need sudo for chomod
[06:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: If I took eth1 down that would defeat the whole purpose :)
[06:00] <kaot> AWOSDev: weird.  normally bcm + ndiswrapper = wlan0
[06:00] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[06:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes that was the default
[06:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: But I specifically configured it for eth1
[06:00] <cdg52> i have issue whre when i run the updater, it will simply reload and not install any updates and apt-get upgrade installs everything but xgl stuff
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> sethk, good evening :)
[06:01] <Don_jr> So basicly my card is reading that the router is there, but ubuntu won't recognize the network for some reason
[06:01] <kaot> AWOSDev: hm.  Dunno how drivers and kernel interact to come up with device names.  hopefully that isn't a problem.  anyhow, the nic is down, the wireless interface is up
[06:01] <kaot> correct?
[06:01] <AWOSDev> kaot: Originally
[06:01] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: hmm....well does the card at least get recognized so it shows up in ifconfig and iwconfig? if it does, it's some encryption issue most likely
[06:01] <x81> ok. now i got this error dpkg: status database area is locked by another process. can i install skype using the synaptic manager instead of downloading it from skype website?
[06:01] <AWOSDev> kaot: then I brought the NIC back up and *still* couldn't get to Google
[06:02] <Eppcott> firefox: /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/bin/X11/firefox.ubuntu /usr/bin/X11/firefox /usr/share/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz
[06:02] <kaot> AWOSDev: ok, drop the nic again
[06:02] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I'll run those now and we'll see
[06:02] <AWOSDev> kaot: dropping...
[06:02] <DanaG> My ipw3945 is eth1
[06:02] <Eppcott> lampshade: It's been doing this for months.
[06:02] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: do you have deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:02] <AWOSDev> kaot: dropped
[06:02] <lampshade> Eppcott: hrmmmm  I have no idea then
[06:02] <bruenig> x81, I don't see skype in any of my repos and I have pretty much all of them if you don't count obscure ones like PLF or Seveas or the like
[06:03] <AWOSDev> DanaG, kaot: I specifically set in ndiswrapper's configuration file to make it eth1
[06:03] <kaot> AWOSDev: Then sudo route -n, the bottom line should read 0.0.0.0 in the first column, your router IP in the second, and your wireless interface in the last.
[06:03] <bruenig> Eppcott, do "firefox", see if there are any errors
[06:03] <lampshade> I have skype in my repos, though you can download it anyway.  The one in the repo isn't the newest one though I don't think
[06:03] <cdg52> sc0rin0: it should be there, it was last time i checked but let me double check
[06:03] <Don_jr> ifconfig out put.  wlan0 link encap:Ethernet HWaddr  address, scope:link, up broadcast running multicast mtu:1500 all packets errors dropped and overruns are zero
[06:03] <Don_jr> lordhelmet is this okay so far?
[06:03] <AWOSDev> kaot: No, there's only one column
[06:03] <bruenig> !info skype
[06:03] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in dapper
[06:03] <AWOSDev> kaot: *row
[06:04] <Eppcott> bruenig: when you say "do" firefox, is that a command line thing?
[06:04] <bruenig> yeah
[06:04] <bruenig> command line
[06:04] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: yes at least it's getting recognized enought to show up there
[06:04] <hangfire> you can get skype with easyubuntu
[06:04] <DanaG> !automatix
[06:04] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:04] <AWOSDev> kaot: 192.168.1.100   0.0.0.0    eth1
[06:04] <Jamminpotato> thanks everyone who helped me.... when i get good at this i'll try and help out n00bs too...g'night
[06:04] <Eppcott> OK, I typed "firefox" on the command line...
[06:04] <cdg52> sc0rin0: ya its there
[06:04] <Eppcott> it just gave me another prompt.
[06:04] <Don_jr> lordhelmet iwconfig shows IEEE 802.11fh essid:off/any  mode managed, channel:0 AP not-associated.  Bit Rate:1 mb/s link quality, signal and noise all at 0
[06:04] <AWOSDev> Goodnight, Jamminpotato!
[06:04] <cdg52> the compiz one
[06:04] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: does the output of iwconfig involve a "key" section or "encryption" or something
[06:05] <sc0ri0n> cdg52" what's error you get ?
[06:05] <kaot> AWOSDev: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1
[06:05] <DanaG> I had DHCP issues (namely, no response) even on my wired.
[06:05] <DanaG> Until I added the hostname.
[06:05] <Don_jr> lordhelmet no, nothing about encription or key is listed in the iwconfig
[06:05] <bruenig> Eppcott, maybe your path is messed up try "/usr/bin/firefox"
[06:05] <cdg52> sc0rin0: The following packages have been kept back:
[06:05] <cdg52>   cgwd compiz compiz-gnome
[06:05] <cdg52> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[06:05] <DanaG> What's the difference between automatix and easyubuntu?
[06:05] <newbie> hi!
[06:05] <bruenig> automatix does more
[06:05] <omoore> what is the preferred tool to configure your monitor make/model with ubuntu?
[06:06] <Eppcott> hmm, /usr/bin/firefox also resulted in a new prompt.
[06:06] <omoore> not resolution.. the make/model
[06:06] <AWOSDev> kaot: done
[06:06] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: interesting, you may want to try automatix bleeder
[06:06] <AWOSDev> kaot: still won't Google or PING
[06:06] <Don_jr> lordrom should I run ndiswrapper -l ?
[06:06] <cdg52> i have that installed also
[06:06] <newbie> is there any indonesian here?
[06:06] <kaot> AWOSDev: what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:06] <cdg52> but i never installed it with that
[06:06] <Greatmetal> how do i get flash and java working in swiftfox ???
[06:06] <AWOSDev> kaot: PING says "Destination host unreachable"
[06:06] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: i'm running out of ideas...i'm pretty sure it's some sort of encryption issue, where the software can't talk to the router as far as encryption goes, but i'm lost as to how to solve that
[06:06] <kaot> AWOSDev: can you ping the default gateway?
[06:06] <sc0ri0n> also check out this: http://sc0ri0n.blogspot.com/2006/08/automatix-bleeder-compiz.html
[06:06] <Healot> cat /etc/resolv.conf for use, AWOSDev
[06:06] <bruenig> eppcott, that is really weird, do cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[06:06] <wolfmanz> Why would the ATI driver not be working after a easyubuntu install?
[06:07] <sc0ri0n> I had talked to one of the developers
[06:07] <AWOSDev> kaot: That's what I'm trying to PING
[06:07] <AWOSDev> Healot: I know that :)
[06:07] <sc0ri0n> they keep stuff up-to-date
[06:07] <hangfire> wolfmanz, is your ati card under or over 9500?
[06:07] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: i feel kind of bad because i'm wireless right now.........i'd try to find a router you can test with w/o security, and scour google some more....unless anybody else has some ideas
[06:07] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: it says it can not install it because i have a ati car
[06:07] <cdg52> d
[06:07] <wolfmanz> hangfire: 9800 pro
[06:07] <izirku> I'm trying to add a location to $PATH per user, not globaly, but ~/.bashrc seems not to work...
[06:07] <Eppcott> OK. That resulted in "matt@p4:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox$"
[06:08] <hangfire> wolfmanz, ok then I dont know
[06:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: /etc/resolv.conf: three lines.  1 search theDOMAIN1.com    2 nameserver 68.168.1.42   3 nameserver 68.168.1.46
[06:08] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I thank you for your help.  It seems I'm so close....lol
[06:08] <bruenig> well the lib directory exists, that is a good sign do "./firefox"
[06:08] <Greatmetal> how do i get flash and java working in swiftfox ???
[06:08] <Don_jr> lordhelmet I've been fighting with getting ubuntu installed all night last night and this morning, finally get it installed and can't get online.....ugh! lol
[06:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: I'm trying to "ping 192.168.1.1" and that *is* the AP IP
[06:08] <kaot> AWOSDev: huh.  How's your network setup go again?
[06:08] <phargle> swiftfox?
[06:08] <bruenig> Greatmetal, do you have them working in firefox?
[06:08] <AWOSDev> kaot: Hold on one second
[06:08] <Greatmetal> i dont have firefox it didnt work
[06:09] <bruenig> Greatmetal, did you have them installed?
[06:09] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: that's weird, it is supporting both ATI and nVidia
[06:09] <Greatmetal> yes
[06:09] <cdg52> yeah but bleeder doesnt it apears
[06:09] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: it probably is, just some little tweak or version mismatch...
[06:09] <bruenig> ok, do this ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins, paste the output
[06:09] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: so what exactly is the error?
[06:09] <Eppcott> bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory
[06:10] <wolfmanz> would the easyubuntu install be dependent opn the 386 kernal for the ati driver?
[06:10] <Greatmetal> ls: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins: No such file or directory
[06:10] <bruenig> Eppcott, do "ls | grep firefox", tell me the output
[06:10] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: what do you mean error? basicly what i understand the error being is that it will not install the updates sitting in the upgrade manager, and as long as they sit there i can not use the GUI version i have to use apt-get upgrade
[06:10] <sc0ri0n> ahhh
[06:10] <BOBSONATOR> Hey, does anyone know how to install GTK2?
[06:10] <BOBSONATOR> i want a minimalistic theme.
[06:10] <bruenig> Greatmetal, did you uninstall firefox?
[06:10] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: I have the problem actually
[06:10] <Don_jr> lordhelmet well I"m doin trying for the night.  I'll mess with it some more in the morning.  Thanx again for all the help.
[06:10] <Greatmetal> yes
[06:10] <sc0ri0n> I think updatemanager is broken
[06:11] <Greatmetal> it disnt work
[06:11] <Healot> !find libgtk2
[06:11] <ubotu> Found: libgtk2-perl, libgtk2.0-cil, libgtk2-ex-podviewer-perl, libgtk2-ex-volumebutton-perl, libgtk2-gladexml-perl (and 13 others)
[06:11] <DanaG> Okay, now my issue is that snd-hda-intel acts odd sometimes.
[06:11] <DanaG> It gives me an SPDIF slider that shouldn't be there, and it gives no output.
[06:11] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: o hmm any way to upgrade then?
[06:11] <Eppcott> when I type ls | grep firefox it just repeats the same prompt.
[06:11] <bruenig> yeah, but when you uninstalled it. All the plugins went with it.
[06:11] <bruenig> Eppcott, the firefox executables are gone
[06:11] <bruenig> that is why it wont run
[06:12] <Eppcott> hmm
[06:12] <Greatmetal> okay i can live without it thanks
[06:12] <bruenig> or so I think
[06:12] <Eppcott> I wonder why an uninstall/reinstall didn't fix that.
[06:12] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: I dont know, I just saw someone mentioning that update manager is fixed but not sure as I used dist-upgrade today
[06:12] <Greatmetal> i use java mostly for development
[06:12] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: np good luck to you
[06:12] <bruenig> Greatmetal, it can still be done. I can send you all the plugins if you want. You will just have to install them in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory
[06:12] <sc0ri0n> it should install if you use apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:13] <bruenig> as that is where swiftfox will look if there is no other firefox
[06:13] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: ive never used dist-upgrade so hmm
[06:13] <Greatmetal> i did that with flash
[06:13] <Eppcott> I typed "ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins". The output was: libjavaplugin.so  libvlcplugin.so
[06:13] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: o its upgrading ^_^
[06:13] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: same thing really....first, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:13] <Greatmetal> bruenig:i did that with the flash plugin
[06:14] <Greatmetal> still does not work
[06:14] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: you could also use apt-get update but that is not smart enough like dist-upgrade
[06:14] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: ah well atleast this worked
[06:14] <sc0ri0n> :D
[06:14] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: bugging me to death that orange icon in the tray
[06:14] <internat> ok, so i have an awsome problem with any video. as soon as i play a movie or try to access my dvb device and xine kicks in, x crashes
[06:14] <bruenig> Greatmetal, no? well I actually just added a symbolic link in .mozilla, and that enabled all the plugins. Maybe a real directory won't work there. Seems like it should though
[06:15] <AWOSDev> kato -- you still there?
[06:15] <DamianFinol> Hi guys
[06:15] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: I know... I posted this to Ubuntu Users forum twice but did not really see anyone replying
[06:15] <kaot> AWOSDev: yep
[06:15] <AWOSDev> kaot: http://www.geocities.com/awosdev/Network.png
[06:15] <administrator> hi __mikem
[06:15] <Greatmetal> its okay i will just live with out it
[06:15] <AWOSDev> kaot: I drew a diagram in the GIMP :)
[06:15] <kaot> haha nice
[06:15] <DamianFinol> I have a question, I have a windows machine on a LAN, I have samba installed and evyerthing needed, I  even installed SWAT, when I type sudo smbtree I can see the machine and the shared folder. How do I mount said folder to a local folder?
[06:16] <AWOSDev> DamianFinol: smbprogs I believe
[06:16] <AWOSDev> !info smbprogs
[06:16] <ubotu> Package smbprogs does not exist in dapper
[06:16] <bruenig> eppcott, well I am not certain how to fix your problem, do this just to make sure you were in the right directory when I had you do the other command "ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox | grep firefx" tell me the output
[06:16] <AWOSDev> !info smbutils
[06:16] <ubotu> Package smbutils does not exist in dapper
[06:16] <jshriver> hi again
[06:16] <kaot> AWOSDev: do you have 192.168.0.0/24 on the linux router and 192.168.1.0/24 on the wireless or something?
[06:16] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: actualy im stil getting errors
[06:16] <DamianFinol> I have every single samba package, how do I tell samba now to mount it?
[06:16] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: let me try to read them over
[06:16] <AWOSDev> No, kaot, here's how it is
[06:16] <sc0ri0n> about compiz?
[06:16] <DanaG> !swiftfox
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <bruenig> eppcott, sorry typo do "ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox | grep firefox"
[06:17] <AWOSDev> kaot Linux router = 131.107.2.1
[06:17] <agnes> hey all!
[06:17] <sc0ri0n> I got some errors today
[06:17] <AWOSDev> kaot Wireless router = 192.168.1.1
[06:17] <jshriver> my user xinit seems messed up.. when I run startx from root and do ps aux | more I see after I run startx I get xinit and a ton of gnome stuff running. But when I do the same from a user side.. it only loads X no gnome
[06:17] <bruenig> Danag, what do you want to know about swiftfox
[06:17] <jshriver> think that's why gdm is bonking out and not loading gnome2
[06:17] <AWOSDev> kaot Wireless router set up for static IP config
[06:17] <DanaG> What is it?
[06:17] <AWOSDev> kaot Wireless router gateway = 131.107.2.1
[06:17] <Eppcott> bruenig: it just repeats the prompt.
[06:17] <AWOSDev> kaot complicated but works :)
[06:17] <sc0ri0n> I had to use something like sudo apt-get install -f compiz-gnome compiz-core compiz-plugins
[06:17] <Eppcott> oh, I missed your typo
[06:17] <kdaniel> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..?
[06:17] <bruenig> yeah typo
[06:17] <agnes> I'm having an interesting problem with two of my laptops here.. they both will standby and wake up perfectly, but both (an N600c and a nc6230 from compaq/hp) will no longer play sound except through the headphone jack.
[06:17] <jshriver> can someone help me?
[06:17] <agnes> what gives?
[06:17] <kaot> AWOSDev: buh.  You pull those ips outta yer backside or do you have one of those cool isps?
[06:17] <kdaniel> i think they're too big
[06:17] <Eppcott> but it still just repeats the prompt.
[06:18] <DamianFinol> Was SMBMOUNT replaced with something else?
[06:18] <AWOSDev> kaot: Actually that IP is from way back
[06:18] <jshriver> there should be a way to have gdm/gnome/X all go back to default..
[06:18] <AWOSDev> kaot: When I used NT 4
[06:18] <bruenig> DanaG, it is an optimized firefox build. It optimized for each specific processor and therefore runs faster
[06:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: at any rate I just wanted to verify there wouldn't be a problem there
[06:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: ahhh
[06:18] <kdaniel> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..?
[06:18] <AWOSDev> kaot: The IP addy stuck through all these years :)
[06:18] <bruenig> works miracles on amd chips but intels I doubt will see much change although perhaps a little
[06:18] <DanaG> Will it leave my plugins intact
[06:18] <octan> morning all
[06:18] <AWOSDev> DamianFinol
[06:18] <AWOSDev> !info smbfs
[06:18] <kaot> AWOSDev: so eth0 has a 131.whatever ip on the laptop?
[06:18] <jshriver> 'morning octan
[06:18] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[06:18] <octan> do other have the same issue with synaptic? it just wount start after a update
[06:18] <bruenig> DanaG, yeah it won't affect firefox at all. You can have both.
[06:19] <octan> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:19] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yes, it's 131.107.2.220
[06:19] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: all better had to run apt-get upgrade and apt-get -f install about 3 times, each time one issue was fixed and one made another issue but now its better
[06:19] <kaot> AWOSDev: gotcha.  You didn't setup iptables or anything on the laptop did you?
[06:19] <agnes> it looks like people are talking about the bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/21574
[06:19] <AWOSDev> kaot: that one stuck since we used Windows 2000 :)
[06:19] <bruenig> it uses the same configuration directory .mozilla, so all of your settings and plugins and bookmarks and such will be loaded into automatix
[06:19] <AWOSDev> kaot: No
[06:19] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: yeah, I had to do the same
[06:19] <agnes> does that mean that it can only be solved in the kernel upstream?
[06:19] <bruenig> swiftfox*
[06:19] <bruenig> not automatix
[06:19] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: but that was only today, I never had any issues before
[06:20] <dijungal> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..?
[06:20] <bruenig> eppcott, do ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/, I am just curious as to what all is in that directory
[06:20] <kaot> GAH this game is giving me fits.
[06:20] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: same here, ive never run into something like this, so i had no idea what to do
[06:20] <AWOSDev> kaot: iptables is on the Linux Router, and I got a "perfect" rating from GRC ShieldsUP!  :)
[06:20] <kaot> AWOSDev: ok, but you can't ping the router...   sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[06:20] <Eppcott> components  plugins
[06:21] <bruenig> yeah, I have 30 other subdirectories and files and such in mine,
[06:21] <bruenig> when I do the same command
[06:21] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: well, I take it as a challange...troubleshooting help me understand :)
[06:21] <kaot> s/router/access point/
[06:21] <kaot> (confusing myself.)
[06:21] <AWOSDev> kaot: correct
[06:21] <bruenig> eppcott, do cd /usr/lib/firefox, maybe for some reason the stuff is in there
[06:21] <bruenig> once there to ls
[06:21] <cdg52> sc0ri0n: haha ya theres true, but atleast it was fixed
[06:21] <AWOSDev> kaot: It came up really freaky stuff but it restarted
[06:21] <kaot> AWOSDev: really freaky stuff like what?
[06:21] <sc0ri0n> cdg52: getting late..I'm happy that it's ok for you
[06:21] <sc0ri0n> g'night all
[06:22] <AWOSDev> kaot: could not bind to eth2
[06:22] <AWOSDev> kaot: could not bind to ath0
[06:22] <AWOSDev> kaot: could not bind to wlan0
[06:22] <DanaG> Is it possible to rename eth1 to wlan0, or is there no point?
[06:22] <AWOSDev> kaot: And a whole slew of other messages based on those
[06:22] <interstellar_ove> hello - i'm having a problem configuring dual monitors
[06:22] <Eppcott> matt@p4:/usr/lib/firefox$ ls /usr/lib/firefox/
[06:22] <Eppcott> chrome                  greprefs           libnssckbi.so       regxpcom
[06:22] <Eppcott> components              icons              libsoftokn3.chk     res
[06:22] <Eppcott> defaults                libgfxpsshar.so    libxpcom_compat.so  searchplugins
[06:22] <Eppcott> extensions              libgkgfx.so        libxpcom_core.so    xpcshell
[06:22] <Eppcott> firefox                 libgtkembedmoz.so  libxpcom.so         xpicleanup
[06:22] <Eppcott> firefox-bin             libgtkxtbin.so     libxpistub.so       xpidl
[06:22] <Eppcott> firefox.cfg             libjsj.so          pkg-ver             xpt_dump
[06:22] <dijungal> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..? i think they're too big
[06:22] <Eppcott> firefox-xremote-client  libmozjs.so        plugins             xpt_link
[06:22] <bruenig> ok
[06:22] <__mikem> holly crap
[06:22] <DanaG> way too big paste.
[06:22] <interstellar_ove> my computer came with an integrated graphics card and later i added an nvidia pci graphics card
[06:22] <Eppcott> sorry
[06:22] <AWOSDev> Eppcott, meat
[06:22] <kaot> AWOSDev: wonder what's in your /etc/networking/interfaces...  ok, check to see if you've got an ip on both eth0 and eth1, and then see what's in route -n again
[06:22] <AWOSDev> *meet
[06:22] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok, do ./firefox
[06:23] <DanaG> i limit my pastes to 3 lines, and then don't talk for a few moments after that.
[06:23] <AWOSDev> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:23] <Eppcott> meet?
[06:23] <DanaG> Or maybe 4.
[06:23] <AWOSDev> Yes, meet pastebin
[06:23] <Eppcott> OK, thank you
[06:23] <kaot> lol
[06:23] <AWOSDev> kaot: okay
[06:23] <interstellar_ove> can someone take a look at my xorg.conf file and see if they can help?
[06:23] <Paradoxx> how can i get the sound output and mircrophone output on my laptop to work?
[06:23] <bruenig> AWOSDev, would have been more effective if you could have typed it a bit faster
[06:23] <interstellar_ove> http://greendoom.googlepages.com/xorg.conf
[06:23] <nalioth> Eppcott: please don't paste in here.  This is in the /topic
[06:24] <bruenig> Eppcott, what did ./firefox do?
[06:24] <AWOSDev> bruenig: yeah
[06:24] <Eppcott> OK nalioth, I won't
[06:24] <starz> how do i gain full access to my files
[06:24] <AWOSDev> starz, sudo
[06:24] <AWOSDev> kaot, it looks good
[06:24] <DanaG> Okay, my main issue now is that my onboard sound card often doesn't work.
[06:24] <Eppcott> bruenig, it's going through Google Browser Sync, which is way more than it ever did
[06:24] <AWOSDev> kaot: It says "0.0.0.0    131.107.2.1   eth0"
[06:24] <DanaG> It gives me an extraneous SPDIF slider.
[06:24] <bruenig> starz, if you want full access graphically, do gksudo nautilus
[06:24] <bruenig> but make sure you  know what you are doing
[06:24] <AWOSDev> kaot: and  "0.0.0.0    192.168.1.1   eth1"
[06:25] <dijungal> ok noone taking me seriously
[06:25] <Eppcott> perhaps I just have to redirect my links to it through Gnome applications menu
[06:25] <dijungal> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..? i think they're too big
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> dijungal,  we care... honest we do....
[06:25] <jshriver> hrm noone in #debian wants to help either they keep refering here.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:25] <kaot> AWOSDev: we're looking for the bottom two lines, that should probably say "UG" under the "Flags" section
[06:25] <dijungal> lol
[06:25] <interstellar_ove> hello i need help configuring dual monitors - http://greendoom.googlepages.com/xorg.conf - my config file
[06:25] <kaot> are there two there?
[06:25] <AWOSDev> kaot: yes
[06:25] <AWOSDev> Thats the
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,    we care... honest we do....
[06:25] <interstellar_ove> i can't seem to figure out why it won't work
[06:25] <AWOSDev> kaot: It says "0.0.0.0    131.107.2.1   eth0"
[06:25] <AWOSDev> kaot: and  "0.0.0.0    192.168.1.1   eth1"
[06:25] <bruenig> Eppcott, since your stuff is already kind of messed up. I have an idea that might work but it is untested and I can't be sure it would work
[06:25] <Madpilot> jshriver, asking for Ubuntu help in #debian is asking to get flamed, IME
[06:25] <jshriver> why would gdm or startx not run xinit in user space.. but will in root?
[06:25] <kaot> AWOSDev: can you ping the access point now?
[06:25] <AWOSDev> no
[06:25] <Eppcott> OK?
[06:25] <DanaG> Is there a way to force-reload a module?
[06:26] <jshriver> startx under root works fine, but startx or gdm wont load my user desktop..
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  normally gdm/kdm is ran as a service, and thus is ran as root.   as a user you type 'startx' and what happens?
[06:26] <kaot> I'm missing something stupid here, I just know it.
[06:26] <kaot> something that I do without even thinking...
[06:26] <tty_basher> interstellar_ove:: is it a problem primarily with the nvidia card?
[06:26] <jshriver> Dr_Willis it startx plan X, no gnome /xinit etc..
[06:26] <billybennett> Anyone here familar with Automatix Bleeder?
[06:26] <jshriver> but when I try startx from root.. everything loads fine
[06:26] <kaot> which makes it hard to think of what it is.
[06:26] <DanaG> Oh, is there a way to pass a parameter to the kernel to prevent GDM from starting?
[06:26] <AWOSDev> kaot: Yep I've had the same problem
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  edit/make a .xinitrc in your users home dir.. put in it the command 'gnome-session' and try 'startx' again
[06:27] <jshriver> I verified this by doing ps aux | tail to see what diff programs are loaded after startx
[06:27] <DanaG> On SuSE I could go 3, but Ubuntu starts GDM on 3.
[06:27] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok let me think of the best most recoverable way of doing this.
[06:27] <AWOSDev> DanaG, I believe that's chkconfig gdm off
[06:27] <dijungal> i can't beleive there's no way to change the size of the icons on the desktop
[06:27] <bruenig> Eppcott, first do cd /usr/lib
[06:27] <jshriver> ok thanks brb
[06:27] <DanaG> aah, I'll have to write that down.
[06:27] <interstellar_ove> tty_basher: no it works fine - as did the intel card before i installed the nvidia one
[06:27] <AWOSDev> dijungal, I know -- the size is insane
[06:27] <tty_basher> interstellar_ove:: whats the specific problem then?
[06:28] <jshriver> nothing
[06:28] <dijungal> some big icons... annoying.. my folders looks like kids toys
[06:28] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok now do "sudo mv mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox.old"
[06:28] <Eppcott> bruenig, terminal still hasn't given me a prompt.
[06:28] <interstellar_ove> tty_basher: i cannot get any video on the second monitor of my configuration - the one on the intel card
[06:28] <bruenig> Eppcott, exit out of it and get to a fresh one
[06:28] <jshriver> just loads X.. tried /etc/init.d/gdm restart and still getting a X screen
[06:28] <Eppcott> OK
[06:28] <tty_basher> interstellar_ove:: ok hang on
[06:28] <interstellar_ove> tty_basher: thanks
[06:28] <jshriver> is gnome-session a program?
[06:28] <bruenig> and do the cd /usr/lib, then the "sudo mv mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox.old"
[06:29] <kaot> AWOSDev: activity lights on both wireless card and access point when attempting to ping?
[06:29] <mtholdenss> hey what does this mean: nVidia GeForce FX5200 (ok with latest nvidia-glx-1.0-8762 and nvidia-kernel-1.0-8762, dri=yes)
[06:29] <AWOSDev> kaot, no act light on Access Point :P
[06:29] <mtholdenss> thats the grapics card i got but what does those kernels mean and dri? im just preparing before i dual boot and try to do xgl
[06:29] <tty_basher> interstellar_ove:: you wanting them to both look the same? or are you wanting your desktop extended?
[06:29] <AWOSDev> kaot, meaning, there *is* no light on it
[06:29] <interstellar_ove> tty_basher: i want my desktop exteneded
[06:29] <Eppcott> OK, done.
[06:29] <AWOSDev> kaot: but no the light doesn't blink at all
[06:29] <janbanan> In the keyboard options... what does "eliminate dead key's" mean`
[06:30] <AWOSDev> kaot: not even once
[06:30] <janbanan> ?
[06:30] <Paradoxx> How can i get the sound output and microphone port to work on my laptop?
[06:30] <tty_basher> interstellar_ove:: join #linuxsociety
[06:30] <Eppcott> it asked me for my password, I gave it, now it's back to the prompt.
[06:30] <jman8888> sethk, How do i remount the 2nd hd (Im pretty sure your the one who helped me last time)
[06:30] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok now do "ln -s /usr/lib/firefox /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox"
[06:30] <DanaG> Paradoxx: snd_hda_intel?  It seems like there are issues a'plenty with that module.
[06:30] <kaot> AWOSDev: thinking....
[06:30] <DanaG> At least I know _I_ have issues.
[06:30] <interstellar_ove> tty_basher: ok - whould i reinquire there?
[06:30] <kaot> AWOSDev: not well... but thinking...
[06:30] <Paradoxx> DanaG: no, its a nvidia based laptop
[06:30] <AWOSDev> kaot: LOL
[06:31] <DanaG> The SOUND chip.
[06:31] <Paradoxx> DanaG: nvidia + amd
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> janbanan,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_key
[06:31] <Paradoxx> oh um
[06:31] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok now try to open firefox like you normally do. The applications menu or desktop icon or however you usually do it.
[06:31] <DanaG> If it's an HD Audio, it'll be snd-hda-intel -- Intel made the HD Audio standard.
[06:31] <Eppcott> bruenig, it said "ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox' to `/usr/lib/firefox': Permission denied"
[06:31] <varsendaggr> hello    how do i rip and encode a cd to mp3   so that the files are about 5 mb    i am comming up with 30 mb files
[06:32] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok yeah my fault "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox"
[06:32] <AWOSDev> Eppcott, try sudo
[06:32] <janbanan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:32] <Paradoxx> DanaG: how di i find out?
[06:32] <Eppcott> oh yes, sudo
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> varsendaggr,  use some better encoding options with whatever audio ripper tool you are using,. You sure its encoding them to mp3?
[06:32] <kaot> AWOSDev: can you do iwconfig, ifconfig, and route, and paste or post the output somewhere?
[06:32] <dijungal> How do i change the default size of the icons on my desktop..? i think they're too big
[06:32] <DanaG> aplay -l
[06:33] <Eppcott> OK, the Gnome taskbar and applications menu buttons that go to Firefox are now working!
[06:33] <AWOSDev> kaot: I can try :)
[06:33] <jman8888> How can i remount Hdb to /hd2 ?
[06:33] <DanaG> (that's an L, not an I)
[06:33] <kaot> thanks
[06:33] <Eppcott> Thank you so much!
[06:33] <bruenig> Eppcott, ok a little surprised it worked to be honest but good to see it did
[06:33] <agnes> Has anybody run across a problem where sound does not come back after a suspend/resume on a laptop except by headphones?
[06:33] <jshriver> sorry had a hard lockup with X.. ick.. had to reboot even
[06:33] <varsendaggr> Dr_Willis, i am using sound juicer and i also have grip installed   i installed --- from source lame   and it seems that i just don't know what kind of options to pass thorugh it are
[06:34] <x81> what's a fluxbox for?
[06:34] <varsendaggr> x81, boogaa
[06:34] <Paradoxx> DanaG: kk, it is
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> varsendaggr,   lower the bitrate perhaps for a start
[06:34] <Eppcott> so lemme make sure I understand, all the files are still in "firefox" but now the links that point to "mozilla-firefox" go there and get re-pointed to "firefox"?
[06:34] <Healot> for pooping silly :)
[06:34] <Paradoxx> so, its a far reaching proble,m?
[06:34] <varsendaggr> hmmm
[06:34] <x81> really now
[06:34] <varsendaggr> ok
[06:34] <x81> what a fluxbox?
[06:34] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone able to install on an OldWorld Mac lately?
[06:34] <jshriver> Dr_Willis I can still run startx from root and everything loads fine.. why would only user accounts be effected or how can I fix this?
[06:34] <x81> and what's it for?
[06:34] <bruenig> Eppcott, yeah firefox looks for mozilla-firefox and that points to firefox which has everything
[06:34] <jshriver> or how can I tell gdm/etc to run defaults
[06:35] <AWOSDev> Where the *HECK* is the floppy drive mounted too?
[06:35] <varsendaggr> x81, it is a windows manager
[06:35] <jshriver> AWOSDev /media/floppy I believe, haven't used one in years
[06:35] <x81> like nautilus?
[06:35] <DanaG> Unfortunately, I'm having trouble with my hda-intel also.
[06:35] <varsendaggr> like gnome
[06:35] <bruenig> Eppcott, it should even be able to do pretty much anything you want like adding extensions or plugins because that is a system wide link so when you add plugins it will go to mozilla-firefox and then install them in firefox
[06:35] <DanaG> I get an extra spdif slider that shouldn't be there.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  sounds like some sort of permission issue.
[06:35] <Paradoxx> DanaG: i c. Do you have any problem with graphics as well?
[06:35] <Eppcott> how about updates though?
[06:35] <x81> like gnome and kde? u mean like a desktop environment?
[06:35] <DanaG> If you know what the codec is, you can google for it.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  if a user with a valid .xinitrc aint even working with startx. youy shoudl be getting some sort of error message
[06:36] <Eppcott> will apt-get and Synaptic and so forth also use the symbolic link?
[06:36] <DanaG> In my case I looked for:  snd-hda-intel sigmatel
[06:36] <jshriver> Dr_Willis any ideas how to remedy it..
[06:36] <Healot> x81: : you're on track
[06:36] <jman8888> Can somebody help me remount a HD?
[06:36] <x81> is it good?
[06:36] <DanaG> I don't have graphical issues, though
[06:36] <jshriver> hrm let me try something
[06:36] <Healot> define: "good"
[06:36] <varsendaggr> x81,  i like it
[06:36] <bruenig> eppcott, in theory it should work, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point it breaks. Updating to edgy or something might be bothersome. apt-get and the like should use it I think. Again I have never done this but it just seemed to me like it should work
[06:36] <x81> something ppl would like
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  when you run startx  - you SHOULD be getting some sort of error messages.. thats the starting point.
[06:37] <Flannel> jman8888: what do you need help with?
[06:37] <bruenig> so long as you don't uninstall firefox or do something like that. You should be fine
[06:37] <internat> can anyone think of why playing any video of any kind could cause x to die completely and restart?
[06:37] <Eppcott> OK. Thanks again, and have a good night
[06:37] <jshriver> Dr_Willis trying now
[06:37] <jman8888> Flannel, I had it working earlier. I need to mount Hdb preferably to /hd2 (but i can mount it anywhere)
[06:37] <jshriver> User not authorize to run X server
[06:38] <Flannel> jman8888: hdb is a drive, which partition do you want to mount?
[06:38] <jshriver> xinit: connection refused
[06:38] <OsirisX11> hello
[06:38] <OsirisX11> is there any way i could control amaroK, a KDE media player, using a gnome panel?
[06:38] <jman8888> Flannel, Its one big drive.
[06:39] <jshriver> Dr_Willis hrm seems the user isn't allowed to run X.. that's why xinit is crapping out..
[06:39] <Flannel> jman8888: so, hdb1
[06:39] <OsirisX11> does a panel exist or anyone have ideas?
[06:39] <Flannel> jman8888: drive != partition
[06:39] <jman8888> Flannel, No extra partitions
[06:39] <jman8888> ?
[06:39] <ltR> how do i change my resolution to 1440x900
[06:39] <bruenig> OsirisX11, sure all you have to do is write one
[06:39] <bruenig> by one I mean an applet
[06:40] <OsirisX11> pretend i'm not a programmer.
[06:40] <mrtn> hey
[06:40] <bruenig> no idea actually
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> jshriver,  id check the ubuntu wiki/forums search for that error. and see what they say. NO idea how you may of messed that up.
[06:40] <jshriver> ick
[06:40] <jshriver> think I might have fs corruption or something
[06:40] <jshriver> found a file in one of my ~/ directories..
[06:40] <jman8888> Flannel, ?
[06:40] <jshriver> was a file, but seems to be a 1TB or bigger file.. wtf..
[06:41] <jshriver> and a diectory now lol
[06:41] <mrtn> anyone got any idea why it is that 6.06 goes straight back to loginscreen after i successfully log in? i'm new to linux/ubuntu
[06:41] <jshriver> how can I run mkfs.ext2 on /?
[06:41] <bruenig> ItR, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, accept all defaults when it gets to screen resolutions. Scroll down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it then continue selecting defaults until it is over. You should then be able to change resolutions in system>preferences>screen resolution
[06:41] <mrtn> didn't change the configuration or anything
[06:42] <mrtn> only thing is that the diskspace on / was low
[06:42] <mrtn> would that matter?
[06:42] <x81> varsendaggr: i jst installed fluxbox. how do i run it now?
[06:42] <robert_> blah
[06:42] <mtholdenss> when edgy gets released would i have to re-download the iso? or update?
[06:42] <robert_> I can't get fuse to work atm
[06:42] <ltR> hey guys, i have a widescreen monitor.. how do i enable 1440x900 /
[06:43] <robert_> fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted
[06:43] <bruenig> ItR, read my previous post
[06:43] <ltR> link?
[06:43] <janbanan> I'm using a couple of gdesklets and I've arranged them at the top of the desktop. the thing is that when i log off and on again they do not appear as I arranged them. Maby it's because I'm using xgl?
[06:43] <bruenig> mtholdeness, you should be able to update through apt-get
[06:43] <DanaG> XGL screws with position memory -- things all move back to one cube side.
[06:43] <bruenig> (23:41:27) bruenig: ItR, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, accept all defaults when it gets to screen resolutions. Scroll down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it then continue selecting defaults until it is over. You should then be able to change resolutions in system>preferences>screen resolution
[06:43] <jman8888> Have you ever noticed that if you have a error in ubuntu you can just copy and paste the error in google and put ubuntu at the end.
[06:44] <bruenig> jman8888, you can do that with almost anything I have found.
[06:44] <kellen> hey, does anybody here have a Lenovo laptop with a fingerprint scanner?
[06:44] <jman8888> I always get my problems fixed that way. Or come here or ubuntuforums
[06:44] <bruenig> i had an error when I tried to compile some obscure flash game, it had an error that I couldn't figure out how to fix. Pasted it and there it was, the right dependency and everything
[06:45] <x81> how do i start fluxbox?
[06:45] <bruenig> not really compile, but run
[06:45] <kapace> can someone help me get driver for my rage 128?
[06:46] <ltR> what do i select for keyboard viarient
[06:46] <kapace> us
[06:46] <bruenig> ItR, us as kapace says
[06:46] <bruenig> accept defaults if you don't know
[06:46] <AWOSDev> kaot
[06:46] <varsendaggr> x81, sorry...   if you go to log out    it will be one of the options in the gdm
[06:46] <kaot> yo
[06:46] <jman8888> How do i mount a linux type Hd? Its already there and formated but after a restart it dissapered
[06:47] <AWOSDev> kaot: http://www.geocities.com/AWOSDev/routen.log
[06:47] <AWOSDev> kaot: http://www.geocities.com/AWOSDev/iwconfig.log
[06:47] <bruenig> jman8888, what is the name of the harddrive and where do you want it mounted it
[06:47] <kellen> does anybody here have a fingerprint reader working in ubuntu?
[06:47] <AWOSDev> kaot: http://www.geocities.com/AWOSDev/ifconfig.log
[06:47] <administrator> kellen: i want to know that as well
[06:47] <tritium> kellen: no, but aparently there is a driver for the thinkpad one
[06:47] <jman8888> Name (Hdb) Where (/hd2)
[06:47] <administrator> kellen: i have biometrics built into my Thinkpad T42
[06:47] <DanaG> You need to move a comma.
[06:47] <administrator> tritium: really?
[06:47] <tritium> administrator: yes
[06:48] <administrator> tritium: that is great
[06:48] <DanaG>  ItR, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, accept all defaults until it gets to screen resolutions. Scroll down to the desired resolution and hit space to select it then continue selecting defaults until it is over. You should then be able to change resolutions in system>preferences>screen resolution
[06:48] <kellen> yeah, I'm having a hell of a time
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> administrator: Probably mentions it on the ThinkWiki.
[06:48] <bruenig> jman8888, the format would be "sudo mount -t ext3 /hardrive/whatever /mountpoint/whatever"
[06:48] <DanaG> I have a TPM chip. but it doesn't work.
[06:48] <bruenig> jman8888, that is assuming it is ext3
[06:48] <x81> oh ok
[06:49] <kaot> AWOSDev: I'm noticing the tx and rx bytes on eth1, indicating that there's at least some traffic coming back to it
[06:49] <kapace> plz help with driver
[06:49] <kellen> do you know how I would go about finding what the manufacturer is of my fingerpring scanner?
[06:50] <ebaad> Hi, I seem to have issues with connecting to my ubuntu machine vie telnet from a windows machine, can somebody please help.
[06:50] <kapace> use smb
[06:50] <AWOSDev> kaot: yep
[06:50] <kapace> plz help with driver
[06:50] <zenit> ebaad: why telnet? Just use ssh.
[06:51] <ebaad> yes people have told me that but for ssh you have to have a client software
[06:51] <zenit> ebaad: putty is good
[06:51] <ebaad> but telnet does not need any
[06:51] <kapace> smb??
[06:51] <kaot> AWOSDev: you sanitize the key out of there?  Just wondering why it isn't in there, I don't need to see it obviously
[06:51] <ebaad> yes I have putty and it works good
[06:51] <DanaG> kellen: try lspci
[06:51] <BNOsaosin> hey, im a new user here having a bit of trouble....the forums are producing no help. if you have a minute to chat let me know
[06:51] <AWOSDev> kaot: No I didn't
[06:51] <ebaad> but from places where I dont have putty I need to configure telnet
[06:51] <AWOSDev> kaot: I didn't even know it *would* show
[06:51] <varsendaggr> help    i need to rip and encode some cd's to mp3   i am getting huge files   102 mb!!!!      ahhhhh
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> Bonez56: Just ask your question and see.
[06:52] <zenit> ebaad: ok, but you feel alright by sending you usernames and passwords in clear text?
[06:52] <kaot> AWOSDev: perhaps it only shows if you run those as root.
[06:52] <zenit> ebaad: but anyway, what kind of problems do you experience?
[06:52] <varsendaggr> if anyone can help me with grip or sound juicer
[06:52] <kaot> AWOSDev: either way, you've got traffic flying around so that part must be working
[06:52] <Timmy|GDS> whats the command to get RAM info?
[06:52] <BNOsaosin> i am having trouble getting my broadcom WMP54g to work on the internet
[06:52] <ebaad> it says that connection refused on port 23
[06:52] <BNOsaosin> the drivers need to use ndiswrapper i assume
[06:52] <ebaad> i have port 23 open
[06:53] <ebaad> infact the linux machine is in DMZ
[06:53] <zenit> ebaad: oki, and you installed telnetd?
[06:53] <tritium> administrator: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader
[06:53] <BNOsaosin> dont know where to go from there :(
[06:53] <jman8888> How can i make the hdb stay mounted after a restart?
[06:53] <ebaad> yes i have it installed through the synaptic package
[06:53] <tritium> kellen: see URL above
[06:53] <administrator> tritium: thank you
[06:53] <thedude45> Timmy|GDS, cat /proc/meminfo
[06:54] <zenit> ebaad: does 'telnet localhost' work?
[06:54] <Timmy|GDS> thnz
[06:54] <tritium> administrator: sure
[06:54] <ebaad> let me try
[06:54] <ebaad> I tried just telnet command and it opened a session and gave me telnet> prompt
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> !broadcom > BNOsaosin
[06:54] <thedude45> so, ive got my laptop setup as a gateway, with wired going to internet, and wireless going to private net, from client machines with linux box as gateway, i can ping external ip addresses, and ssh to remote machines, but http doesnt work, any ideas?
[06:54] <mrtn> anyone got any idea why it is that 6.06 goes straight back to loginscreen after i successfully log in? i'm new to linux/ubuntu
[06:55] <knurg> my "alt-gr"-key does not work! running ubuntu/compiz
[06:55] <kaot> AWOSDev: I'm about two seconds from just asking you to reboot that thing even though it goes against everything I believe in
[06:55] <ebaad> i tried telnet localhost and I got telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[06:56] <zenit> ebaad: and you did that on the linux machine?
[06:56] <starz>  i get the message "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/Hard Disks/Toshiba 100GB" how do i gain premission....im a nob, and just swiched today
[06:56] <ebaad> yes
[06:56] <AWOSDev> kaot: I'll reboot
[06:58] <Spy4> hi all
[06:58] <ebaad> please any ideas zenit
[06:58] <zenit> ebaad: it sounds like telnetd isn't running. I would take a look in /etc/inetd.conf to see if telnetd is there, then do a /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[06:58] <varsendaggr> has anyone been able to get grip to work?
[06:58] <Spy4> bash: make: command not found
[06:58] <zenit> ebaad: you can also check if it's listening with 'netstat -tln | grep :23'
[06:59] <Healot> !info build-essential
[06:59] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:59] <Spy4> why make command is not working?
[06:59] <Healot> !build
[06:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:59] <dnite> is there a package for the new nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[06:59] <Spy4> i know
[06:59] <BOBSONATOR> Guys, i need some help fast, my top toolbar disappeared?!?
[06:59] <ebaad> my inetd.conf file has these entries telnet          stream  tcp     nowait  telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[06:59] <BOBSONATOR> how do i put it back!
[06:59] <zenit> ebaad: oki, that looks good
[07:00] <BOBSONATOR> ahhhhhh
[07:00] <AWOSDev> kaot, it's rebooting now
[07:00] <BOBSONATOR> Can someone please help me?
[07:00] <AWOSDev> kaot: do you think we should start a PM so that we're not interrupted by all these people?
[07:00] <BOBSONATOR> my top toolbar is gone...
[07:00] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR: you mean the one that has "applications", etc...
[07:01] <kaot> AWOSDev: works for me
[07:01] <BOBSONATOR> yes
[07:01] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR: we can't help you if you don't help us
[07:01] <kaot> thedude45: dns settings maybe?
[07:01] <ebaad> netstat command does not give any process
[07:01] <BOBSONATOR> AWOSDev: yes.
[07:01] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR: try right-clicking on the bottom one
[07:01] <BOBSONATOR> k
[07:01] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR: I believe there's a "show bar" or something in there
[07:01] <thedude45> kaot, i went into teh servers /etc/resolv.conf and snagged the isp dns info out of there and put it on the clients, i think its my iptables
[07:01] <zenit> ebaad: and you also restarted inetd?
[07:02] <ebaad> so i restarted the inetd but it says no such file stat /usr/sbin/inetd
[07:02] <Spy4> i hadn't build-essential package installed X-)
[07:02] <BOBSONATOR> AWOSDev: there is no show panel.
[07:03] <Spy4> but why dapper doesn't install it by default?
[07:03] <BOBSONATOR> AWOSDev: add toolbar?
[07:03] <kaot> thedude45: you've got rules besides the masquerade or snat (whichever you're using)?
[07:03] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR: mayb
[07:03] <AWOSDev> *maybe
[07:03] <BOBSONATOR> AWOSDev: but there is a blank toolbar now...
[07:03] <AWOSDev> BOBSONATOR, I'm sorry I don't know that much about GNOME
[07:03] <bimberi> BOBSONATOR: New Panel
[07:03] <AWOSDev> kaot, let's go for the PM now
[07:03] <BOBSONATOR> AWOSDev: AHHH
[07:03] <kaot> AWOSDev: k
[07:03] <zenit> ebaad: seems that you're missing inetd. I guess installing netkit-inetd might help.
[07:04] <ebaad> can get that by apt_get install netkit-inetd
[07:05] <zenit> ebaad: yes. Although I'm not sure if it's needed to run telnetd, but I know that on Debian at least it's started through inetd.
[07:05] <Madpilot> BOBSONATOR, first, change your nick so it's not so loud, thanks. To get your top toolbar back, right-click on the surviving one, choose Add New Panel, then add the stuff back to the new top panel
[07:05] <thedude45> kaot, http://rafb.net/paste/results/2H6Vst60.html here is iptables -L output and my route info
[07:05] <zenit> It could be possible that you can run it standalone too, by just executing /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[07:05] <imago> AAA, i need your help agian
[07:06] <ebaad> it seems like it is being installed now
[07:06] <imago> can some one help me with my fdd problem
[07:07] <imago> anyone at all
[07:07] <Spy4> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[07:07] <Spy4> >>
[07:07] <Spy4> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[07:07] <Spy4> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[07:07] <Spy4> make[2] : *** [scripts/lxdialog/ncurses]  Error 1
[07:07] <Spy4> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[07:07] <Spy4> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[07:07] <zenit> ebaad: just checked the man-page, and inetd is the proper way. So I guess you should be fine once it's installed.
[07:08] <mrtn> have any of you guys been kicked back to the login-screen in 6.06 after successful login? my computer plays the login-successful-sound and then briefly shows a text-login screen and then jumps back to gui-login
[07:08] <zenit> ebaad: but remember the clear text password thing, but I guess you're aware of it.
[07:08] <Spy4> what do i have to install? ncurses-devel tells me that i can't find on repo
[07:08] <ebaad> it got installed but asked me if I wanted to overwrite the previuos version of inetd file
[07:08] <imago> i have a problem with my floppy drive
[07:09] <ebaad> so I over wrote the previous file
[07:09] <ebaad> i will try to stard the inetd again and see what happens
[07:09] <zenit> ebaad: oki, just make sure that the telnetd line is in and not commented out.
[07:09] <Spy4> anyone can help me?
[07:10] <distantbody> imago: The only way someone is going to help you is if you get state your actual problem.
[07:10] <TBNolan> i've set up a samba share, and when i try to navigate to it from my windows box, it asks for a user/pass and i can't figure out what its looking for
[07:10] <Healot> !ask
[07:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:10] <imago> ok unable to mount the selected vloume
[07:10] <ebaad> now it seemes like the netstat gave some results
[07:10] <Spy4> ubotu i asked
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i asked - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <ebaad> and also inetd started which is good sign
[07:11] <kaot> thedude45: I could be missing somethign but I dont see where dns replies are being permitted
[07:11] <TBNolan> ubotu samba
[07:11] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:11] <ebaad> COOOOOL it works great from the localhost
[07:12] <ebaad> but now it says you have mail
[07:12] <Noah0504> Is there anyway to benchmark different kernels?  I want to find out if it's paying off to change to i686, k7, etc...
[07:12] <jpjacobs> TBNolan, you'll need to add yourself with smbpass (or something like that, use tabcompletion)
[07:12] <imago> distantbody, unable to mount selected volume
[07:12] <ebaad> and when I tried mail from cli, it says command not found
[07:12] <TBNolan> jpjacobs just type that in a terminal, or what?
[07:12] <jpjacobs> TBNolan, read the manpage
[07:12] <raymond_> can anyone help me with shortcuts for xgl ?? i can do the cube thing and the wobbly windows but cant seem to get some of the other things to work that i have seen online.....
[07:12] <Spy4> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[07:12] <Spy4> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[07:12] <Spy4> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[07:12] <Spy4> make[2] : *** [scripts/lxdialog/ncurses]  Error 1
[07:12] <Spy4> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[07:12] <Spy4> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[07:13] <imago> given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:13] <distantbody> imago: You should check the Ubuntu documentation first. The Ubuntu Wiki is particularly helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=floppy&titlesearch=Titles
[07:13] <Spy4> ncurses-devel is obsolete
[07:13] <Spy4> or apt-get won't install it
[07:13] <Spy4> what do i have to do to recompile kernel?
[07:14] <Healot> !info kernel-package
[07:14] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> !info ncurses-dev
[07:14] <ubotu> Package ncurses-dev does not exist in dapper
[07:14] <Healot> be it the ubuntu way
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> heh
[07:14] <mrtn> ok, bye
[07:14] <Spy4> ok thanks ubotu
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses
[07:14] <Healot> kernel-package >> the meta package you need to build a kernel in ubuntu
[07:14] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configuring my sound.. in breeze it was working but now in dapper it doenst work, I followed the steps on how to setup sound cards from the wiki but no succeess
[07:14] <upgrdman> on a pATA cable, the master drive goes at the opposite end of the motherboard connection, right? not the middle?
[07:14] <hyperpenguin> Hi there! I'm using a sound device that doesn't appear to support multiplexing (Plantronics USB headset). Is there any implementation like dmix for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <Healot> handy isn't it, spy4?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> upgrdman,  yep. normally
[07:15] <upgrdman> Dr_Willis, thank you.
[07:15] <hyperpenguin> As in, software multiplexing
[07:15] <Spy4> installed kernel-package but same error
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> upgrdman,  i just use cable select jumper. :P
[07:15] <ebaad> Thanks zenit, it works great
[07:15] <TBNolan> jpjacobs: "Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" any ideas? maybe it didn't like my old password?
[07:16] <Spy4> typing 'make menucnfig'
[07:16] <Spy4> same error
[07:16] <phiber_optic> did anybody was able to configure Sound Blaster live 5.1 in dapper??
[07:16] <Healot> make xconfig ? Spy4
[07:16] <killer_demon> how can i enter INIT 3 in ubuntu?
[07:16] <jpjacobs> TBNolan, don't know nothing about it... i just saw it once here, or on a forum
[07:16] <TBNolan> :-( kk
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> sudo init 3 (perhaps)
[07:16] <hyperpenguin> killer_demon, sudo init 3?
[07:16] <jpjacobs> killer_demon, tried sudo init 3
[07:16] <hyperpenguin> ,Ah.
[07:16] <Spy4> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck', needed by `scripts/kconfig/qconf.o'.  Stop.
[07:16] <Spy4> make: *** [xconfig]  Error 2
[07:16] <jpjacobs> lol
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> or just kill the gdm service. :P
[07:17] <Spy4> make xconfig tells me that
[07:17] <Healot> ubuntu is debian based, init 2 does init 3 and init 5
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> 2=3+5 ?
[07:17] <killer_demon> sudo init 3 doesnt work
[07:17] <Healot> Spy4: did you installed kernel package btw?
[07:17] <Spy4> i installed kernel package now
[07:17] <Healot> just Alt+Ctrl+f1 to logon to tty
[07:17] <Spy4> apt-get install kernel-package
[07:17] <Healot> and /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:17] <nrdb> I have an old computer here I would like to install xubuntu on but it won't boot from the CD (bios can't do it), can I boot from a floppy had have control transfered to the CD ?
[07:18] <Healot> well prefix sudo
[07:18] <Healot> !info libqt3-mt
[07:18] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3078 kB, installed size 8728 kB
[07:18] <phiber_optic> did anybody was able to configure Sound Blaster live 5.1 in dapper??
[07:18] <killer_demon> isnt there a way to have the graphical update program more stuff? :)
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  ive had good luck with that card when i had one.. ages ago. :P
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> I wonder what i did with that card... must be in the pc i gave my mom.
[07:19] <Spy4> libqt3-mt for recompiling kernel?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  got a more specific problem with it?
[07:19] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis, it was working on the previous version but know it is not detected
[07:19] <phiber_optic> i tried to load the module but it didnt work
[07:19] <phiber_optic> :(
[07:19] <killer_demon> i installed kernel-package but init 3 still doesnt work
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  you using the Digital out? or analog out?  ( or does it even hage that)
[07:20] <imago> disantbody: i did what you said and i changed fstab  but that still didn't work
[07:20] <phiber_optic> none :(
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> none? it dont have any outs? :P
[07:20] <Spy4> no help?
[07:20] <phiber_optic> when I load the module ssnd-emu10k1
[07:20] <nrdb> I have an old computer that won't boot from a CD, is there any way I can install xubuntu on it?
[07:20] <phiber_optic> it gives me alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  Hmm..   so if you play a  wav file.. does it actually give an error? or does it just seem to play but makes no sound?
[07:22] <phiber_optic> i cant even move the sound
[07:22] <phiber_optic> controllers
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> nrdb: Download and burn the "Alternate" CD, and from there you can do a text-only-mode install, even with a "Low RAM" option if necessary.
[07:22] <eternaljoy> hi
[07:22] <phiber_optic> No volume control GStreamer pllugins and/or devices found
[07:22] <Spy4> anyone can help me installing packages needed to recompile kernel?
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> nrdb: Wait, soryr.
[07:22] <eternaljoy> how can I get spell checking to work on OpenOffice Word Processor please?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  Hmm..  you dual booting?
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> nrdb: I read that as meaning it couldn't boot the live CD.  If it can't boot from a CD at all, I think there are options, but I'm not as familiar with them.
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> !netboot
[07:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:23] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis, yes
[07:23] <distantbody> @ imago nrdb: I think these are pretty common problems, and hence would probably be in the Ubuntu documentation, wiki, forums etc.: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> nrdb: One of those ^^ might have some insight.
[07:23] <PyroManiak> are there any utilities to darken LCD's?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  i recall AGES ago.. i had an odd sound card issue.. If i booted to windows.. then 'soft' rebooted to Linux. the card would not get confogured right.. IF i powerd down and booted straight to Linux it would work.
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  some sort of PNP/bios oddity.
[07:23] <nrdb> distantbody: I will look
[07:24] <Spy4> HEY
[07:24] <nich0s> HEY!
[07:24] <BNOsaosin> hey im having trouble with the xorg config after following the built in instructions in Ubuntu's help
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> "Timithy Hay!"
[07:24] <Spy4> none helping me
[07:24] <phiber_optic> i tried everything
[07:24] <BNOsaosin> what do i do when it asks what madules should be loaded by default
[07:24] <Spy4> asked 4 times
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[07:24] <DesertEagle7> Dr_Willis thats very odd
[07:24] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> DesertEagle7,  yea - took me forever to notice why it worked some times but not others.
[07:24] <Spy4> thanks
[07:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my mozilla firefox wont play sound, but i have the flash plugin installed... what should i do?
[07:25] <imago> distantbody, obiously documentation doesn't help us much if were noobs. hence why there is this chatroom. plus i am using 5.10  not 6.06
[07:25] <nich0s> Stop being such a virus ISOLATEDViRuS. :P
[07:25] <phiber_optic> can anybody help me configure my sound card??
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Spy4,  bookmark the ubuntu wiki site for future referance. :)
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  chedk ya dmesg - it mention the card at all?
[07:26] <TBNolan> wheres the best place to make a shared folder that will be shared between multiple users
[07:26] <BNOsaosin> any1?
[07:26] <killerdemon> wtf
[07:26] <e-type> TBNolan: where you like, I'd put it in /home
[07:26] <phiber_optic> Dr_Willis, nop not mentioned
[07:26] <PyroManiak> Anyone know how to make a screen darker? I know I can with most windows video drivers
[07:27] <killerdemon> when i used ctrl-alt-f1  i got text mode but the nvidia installer still says i have to exit X server
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  odd..   may want to test out some of the other live cd's and see if you can prove its a kernel related (version) issue or not.
[07:27] <BNOsaosin> what do i do when it asks what madules should be loaded by default in xorgconfig
[07:27] <hawkaloogie> killerdemon, in that "text mode", login and do "sudo killall -9 gdm"
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> phiber_optic,  and double check what module a working live cd is using for that card.
[07:27] <phiber_optic> i already installed dapper in my computer
[07:27] <BNOsaosin> type all the numbers in (load them all?)
[07:27] <wolfmanz> Anyone here get easyubuntu to install the ati drivers using a k7 kernal?
[07:28] <killerdemon> ty Dr_Willis
[07:28] <phiber_optic> its very strange :(
[07:29] <distantbody> imago: "doesn't help us much if were noobs". The documentation is directed towards noobs, are you sure you've searched as much docuntation as you can?
[07:29] <imago> i have a problem with using my floppy drive. it says that it is "unable to mount the selected volume""given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[07:29] <phiber_optic> can someone help me configure my sound card
[07:30] <imago> i have searched all i found was hot to get the floppy to boot from grub
[07:30] <gity_gigi_hamatz> ha.........
[07:31] <CompEngStu> imago, go to google and type in 'ubuntuforums blah blah blah' and you can find almost every answer you have ever needed!!
[07:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i uninstall and reinstall Flash for mozilla?
[07:31] <phiber_optic> can someone help me configure my sound card
[07:31] <eternaljoy> how can I get spell checking to work on OpenOffice Word Processor please?
[07:32] <imago> i whent to the ubuntu fourms  and also tried the wiki on ubuntu  all i found is for grub or how to make it accessible to all users
[07:32] <distantbody> imago: Try this method used to mount a hdd partition: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-7036f2492d04f1d0984017ad8e71af0eda2690d6
[07:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i uninstall and reinstall Flash for mozilla?
[07:34] <thedude45> so i was watching my traffic with ethereal, its blocking icmp packets.. how can i turn that iptables rule off?
[07:34] <phiber_optic> I cant get my sound blaster card to work in Dapper
[07:35] <e-type> phiber_optic: does alsamixer show your card?
[07:35] <imago> i am not willing to do that distantbody for that i have a dual boot machine. and i don't want to mess it up to put it nicly as i can
[07:35] <CompEngStu> ISOLATEDViRuS:  go here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75468.html
[07:35] <phiber_optic> e-type, nop it doesnt
[07:35] <phiber_optic> :(
[07:35] <e-type> phiber_optic: have you got any livecd that gives you working sound?
[07:35] <CompEngStu> ISOLATEDViRuS:  look at the very last post on that page
[07:35] <phiber_optic> nop
[07:36] <phiber_optic> well I had breezy before
[07:36] <phiber_optic> I downloaded dapper and did a clean install
[07:36] <phiber_optic> and no sound
[07:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> thanks compengstu
[07:36] <distantbody> imago:  No damage will be done.
[07:36] <TBNolan> ubotu printer sharing
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printer sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <e-type> phiber_optic: search google for 'linux <your card> kernel module' and try to load that module
[07:37] <phiber_optic> I did
[07:37] <phiber_optic> and it didnt work
[07:37] <CompEngStu>  does anyone here know how to ad a tcp/ip port to dapper?
[07:37] <e-type> phiber_optic: what was the error?
[07:37] <e-type> CompEngStu: define "add a tcp/ip port"?
[07:37] <phiber_optic> e-type, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:38] <e-type> phiber_optic: on the modprobe command I mean
[07:38] <thedude45> woo hoo, installed firestarter, and it took care of it..it is working.. i now have my portable wireless sniffing gateway
[07:38] <phiber_optic> what is modprobe?
[07:38] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:38] <CompEngStu> well, i need to connect to a networked printer (not connected to pc, just straight to network) and the only way that I can seem to get it to work in windows is to create a new "tcp/ip port" that points to the IP of the printer
[07:39] <e-type> phiber_optic: do a 'sudo modprobe <module>' where <module>==the kernel module name google told you
[07:39] <e-type> phiber_optic: man modprobe tells you what it is
[07:39] <imago> distantbody, what happens if my pmount.allow is empty
[07:39] <phiber_optic> I did it and no problem
[07:39] <phiber_optic> ~$ sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[07:40] <phiber_optic> but then when i ran alsamixer it gives me that error
[07:40] <pd222> Hi I just Installed Ubuntu, and I did all the additional app installation through easyubuntu. I was testing Java in Firefox from the site http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml, It tells me that Java is installed and that I am using an older version. But I can not see that Dancing Duke
[07:40] <e-type> still no alsamixer?
[07:40] <e-type> phiber_optic: still no alsamixer?
[07:40] <phiber_optic> e-type, yes still no alsamixer
[07:40] <distantbody> imago: pmount.allow usually *is* empty:). See the example on the page.
[07:41] <UU> How to get a speed deb servers ?
[07:41] <e-type> phiber_optic: check the output of '$ lsmod | grep snd' , have you got a whole list, including "snd" itself?
[07:42] <e-type> UU: find a faster mirror close to you
[07:42] <dasteve2> does anything know much about the opteron processor?
[07:42] <marshall_> does anybody know if its possible to get gmailfs working?
[07:42] <gza> what driver for regular Radeon 7500?
[07:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> CompEngStu: according to that post, i dont even have flash installed as a plugin...
[07:42] <phiber_optic> e-type,  yes there is a whole list of snd
[07:43] <e-type> phiber_optic: so, your alsa is loaded... try '$ sudo alsamixer' maybe you don't have the right to access audio devices
[07:43] <gza> XGL + radeon 7500 worked on Suse enterprise desktop but I can't get it to work on ubuntu
[07:43] <phiber_optic> i already tried that but it gives me the same error
[07:44] <TBNolan> so whats the best way to share a printer to a windows machine?
[07:44] <TBNolan> samba or CUPS?
[07:44] <dasteve2> samba is easy to setup
[07:44] <e-type> phiber_optic: '$ ls /dev/snd/' shows you control, pcm and timer devices?
[07:44] <dasteve2> i dont know about printer shairing though
[07:45] <UU> It isn't working of Multimedia audio
[07:45] <UU> how to handle
[07:45] <phiber_optic> e-type,  it just shows me seq timer
[07:45] <UU> the chip is CS4610/11 Crystal clear
[07:46] <e-type> phiber_optic: did the modprobe -l show snd_pcm and soundcore modules?
[07:46] <BNOsaosin> hey anyone available for a question?
[07:46] <phiber_optic> e-type yes
[07:46] <distantbody> BNOsaosin: Just ask it!
[07:47] <phiber_optic> do u want me to paste it?
[07:47] <e-type> phiber_optic: I believe you ;)
[07:47] <nich0s> !ask BNOsaosin
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask BNOsaosin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <nich0s> :(
[07:47] <phiber_optic> e-type,  ;)
[07:47] <phiber_optic> it just annoys me that in breeezy it was working fine
[07:47] <BNOsaosin> having trouble getting my ATI card to work...i followed the intructions in the documentation, but 3D is still not on. glxinfo gives many "API ERROR" s
[07:47] <phxheat> hi, im following the guide on the ubuntu forum about installing windows xp in vmware,... i installed VM Ware fine and now getting to the xp instllation part, but i cant "create a new virtual machine" as the howto states... its blurred out... any ideas why?
[07:48] <BNOsaosin> although my reolustion is correct, and X starts fine
[07:49] <phiber_optic> e-type any other ideas?
[07:49] <BNOsaosin> any ideas?
[07:49] <e-type> phiber_optic: could you do a '$ find -P /dev/ -iname "snd_pcm"' to make sure it's not udev putting your devices in a wrong location?
[07:49] <imago> disantbody, didn't work
[07:50] <phiber_optic> e-type, when I typed find -P /dev/ -iname "snd_pcm" it didnt find anything
[07:50] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:50] <distantbody> imago: what did you call the floppy drive? "/dev/fdd", "/dev/fdd1"...?
[07:50] <e-type> phiber_optic: I think you got the wrong kernel module loaded for your card
[07:50] <imago> fd0
[07:51] <phiber_optic> thats what it says for sound blaster live...
[07:51] <phiber_optic> and i remember in breeze it was the same module
[07:51] <imago> /dev/fd0
[07:51] <e-type> phiber_optic: yes...
[07:51] <UU> soundcard  isn't setup of the IBM tp600e  Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] 
[07:52] <e-type> phiber_optic: put the output of '$ lsmod | grep snd' in a pastebin please
[07:53] <phiber_optic> e-type, done
[07:53] <e-type> url?
[07:53] <phiber_optic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21621
[07:54] <UU>  help me ,soundcard  isn't setup of the IBM tp600e  Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator
[07:54] <tvgm2> Whenever I run the Ubuntu LiveCD it freezes/resets my computer at some point during installing it.
[07:54] <imago> i guess i will have to do this the long way. the reason i need floppy is so that i can transfer my windows 3.1 files to linux. but i guess i will have to transfer them to my win2000 then via usb to linux  any other idea's are appricated
[07:54] <UU> 1
[07:54] <UU> 2
[07:54] <distantbody> imago: I'm not sure what is *should* be called...but try this instead then:
[07:55] <distantbody> imago: 1. Click System, Administration, Users and Groups
[07:55] <distantbody> 2. enter password of the first user you created during installation
[07:55] <distantbody> 3. Click Groups tab within the Users and Groups window that appears
[07:55] <distantbody> 4. Select cdrom under Group then click Properties button
[07:55] <distantbody> Group members should show hal; if not, select it from the left tab then click Add button, then OK button
[07:55] <distantbody> Repeat step 4 above for floppy and plugdev groups. 		 	 		 		 		 		 		 	 		 			 			 			 			 				
[07:55] <GTroy> how do I get write access to an external HFS drive?
[07:55] <imago> k
[07:55] <Madpilot> distantbody, please do NOT paste again - use a pastebin...
[07:56] <e-type> phiber_optic: looks like your snd module was loaded before your emu10k1 module and snd didn't see it
[07:56] <UU> Who  did has show sound at the IBM's 600E
[07:56] <e-type> phiber_optic: first easy attempt: unload snd and reload it
[07:56] <phiber_optic> how do i do that?
[07:56] <e-type> phiber_optic: '$ sudo modprobe snd -r' followed by '$ sudo modprobe snd'
[07:57] <UU> 1
[07:57] <phiber_optic> FATAL: Module snd is in use.
[07:57] <crimsun> UU: wget http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/tp-init-snd-cs4236.sh
[07:57] <crimsun> UU: you also need to disable Fast/Quick/Easy Boot in BIOS.
[07:57] <tvgm2> Whenever I run the Ubuntu LiveCD it freezes/resets my computer at some point during installing it.  Any ideas?
[07:57] <e-type> phiber_optic: should've seen that one coming...
[07:58] <e-type> phiber_optic: how about first removing soundcore?
[07:58] <crimsun> UU: invoke that shell script from /etc/rc.local , for instance.
[07:58] <phiber_optic> e-type im not that expert sorry bout that..
[07:58] <phiber_optic> :(
[07:58] <phiber_optic> how do i do that
[07:58] <e-type> phiber_optic: '$ modprobe soundcore -r'
[07:58] <imago> distantbody no help
[07:58] <phiber_optic> I get the same message
[07:58] <e-type> as root, so use sudo or become root
[07:58] <crimsun> phiber_optic: which sound blaster?
[07:59] <distantbody> imago: more details?
[07:59] <phiber_optic> crimsun,  sound blaster live
[07:59] <crimsun> phiber_optic: which model specifically?
[07:59] <ltR> hey guys, i changed my resolution to 1440x900 and the pannel doesnt toch the bottom of the screen
[07:59] <phiber_optic> crimsun, sound blaster live 5.0
[07:59] <ltR> `xgl
[07:59] <bean-oh> !sound
[07:59] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:59] <phiber_optic> e-type,  i got the same error
[08:00] <crimsun> phiber_optic: you'd better pastebin the output from ``lspci -nv'' for me.
[08:00] <e-type> phiber_optic: yeah, I sent that before I saw yr line ;)
[08:00] <crimsun> phiber_optic: "sound blaster live 5.1" is probably what you meant anyhow.
[08:00] <phiber_optic> yes yes crimsun sorry
[08:00] <imago> distantbody, all of them had  hal. everything u suggested dosen't work. i know it is software  not hardware
[08:00] <e-type> phiber_optic: I'm thinking of a way without rebooting to reload your snd and soundcore modules...
[08:00] <distantbody> ltR: Use the command "xvidtune", use with caution
[08:01] <phiber_optic> crimsum
[08:01] <crimsun> uh, who told him to remove his alsa modules?
[08:01] <phiber_optic> already pasted
[08:01] <crimsun> that's a ridiculous approach.
[08:01] <e-type> crimsun: check his lsmod output first
[08:01] <crimsun> his lsmod output is only vaguely relevant.
[08:02] <phiber_optic> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21622
[08:02] <crimsun> what's much more relevant is lspci -nv  and amixer
[08:02] <e-type> crimsun: apparently snd was loaded before his emu10k1 module, and didn't see it
[08:02] <imago> anything else distantbody
[08:02] <e-type> crimsun: his pcm and control devices aren't there
[08:02] <crimsun> snd is a prerequisite. It HAS to be loaded first.
[08:03] <phiber_optic> did i do something wrong??
[08:03] <e-type> phiber_optic: ug... your snd_emu10k1 is in snd's list...
[08:03] <distantbody> imago: Try either this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106544&highlight=pmount+update+floppy or this: http://www.google.com.au/search?hs=DC9&hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=ubuntu+%22unable+to+mount+the+selected+volume%22+floppy&btnG=Search&meta=
[08:03] <phiber_optic> e-type,  what does that mean?
[08:03] <tvgm2> Whenever I run the Ubuntu LiveCD it freezes/resets my computer at some point during installing it.  Any ideas?
[08:04] <e-type> phiber_optic: that I missed it when checking your paste...
[08:04] <e-type> phiber_optic: that indeed, reloading any modules is no good
[08:05] <crimsun> phiber_optic: and lspci -v ?
[08:05] <UU> e-type ,tks
[08:05] <sunardi-pratomo> ?
[08:06] <phiber_optic> pasted
[08:06] <ginger_> anyone with VideoLan experience?
[08:06] <crimsun> phiber_optic: at what url?
[08:06] <phiber_optic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21623
[08:07] <BNOsaosin> grrr can anyone help me with XGL?
[08:07] <crimsun> much as I thought
[08:07] <crimsun> I don't see any sound blaster live enumerated
[08:07] <e-type> phiber_optic: where's the sound blaster live?
[08:08] <phiber_optic> e-type,  i dont see it
[08:08] <crimsun> in other words, why was snd_emu10k1 even loaded?
[08:08] <crimsun> there's no matching {sub}{vendor,device} id
[08:08] <crimsun> you want snd-hda-intel
[08:09] <e-type> crimsun: it's loaded as well
[08:09] <phiber_optic> crimsun,  i followed the instructions in the wikin
[08:09] <phiber_optic> wiki*
[08:09] <e-type> crimsun: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21621
[08:09] <crimsun> lsmod isn't helpful
[08:09] <crimsun> phiber_optic: what're the contents of /proc/asound/cards ?
[08:10] <phiber_optic> crimsun, what do u mean??
[08:10] <crimsun> phiber_optic: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[08:10] <phiber_optic> --- no soundcards ---
[08:11] <crimsun> phiber_optic: what are the contents of /proc/interrupts?
[08:11] <crimsun> (pastebin it)
[08:12] <phiber_optic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21625
[08:12] <e-type> crimsun: heh, /me reads along ;)
[08:12] <imago> oh shit um help     looking at fstab    and it's blank
[08:12] <phiber_optic> irq= interrupts??
[08:12] <phiber_optic> this is what i like bout linux...i
[08:12] <jamin06> all of a sudden my sound stopped working. any reasons known
[08:12] <phiber_optic> im not an expert linux user.. but wants to learn more
[08:13] <crimsun> phiber_optic: you have no resources allocated to your onboard HDA sound controller, so it won't work.
[08:13] <crimsun> phiber_optic: are you running 2.6.15-26.46?
[08:13] <Shadowpillar> anyone know where I can get libdvdcss2 for 64 bit dapper?
[08:13] <jamin06> so, i fix how?
[08:13] <phiber_optic> crimsun, i dont know I just installed dapper...
[08:14] <crimsun> jamin06: that's pretty vague. Use http://pastebin.ca to paste your ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:14] <jamin06> ok
[08:14] <imago> my fstab is blank um what do i do
[08:14] <crimsun> phiber_optic: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $3 }'
[08:14] <phiber_optic> crimsun, but my sound card that is installed is soundblaster...
[08:15] <jamin06> http://pastebin.ca/148524
[08:15] <phiber_optic> 2.6.15-26.46
[08:15] <crimsun> phiber_optic: your sound blaster is not recognised at all.
[08:15] <phiber_optic> crimsun,  thats what its weird
[08:15] <damian> is there a way to do an automatic login
[08:15] <crimsun> phiber_optic: good. Now you must disable in bios some devices that you don't use. Try disabling your printer port and the onboard sound device.
[08:15] <phiber_optic> I did
[08:15] <crimsun> phiber_optic: they're already disabled in bios?
[08:15] <irawan> damian: you can use gdm or mingetty
[08:16] <phiber_optic> I disabled on boarrd and I thought it would recognize my soundblaster
[08:16] <phiber_optic> yes
[08:16] <phiber_optic> I went to chipsent onboard and disable everything
[08:16] <crimsun> phiber_optic: it's not at _all_ recognised even in pci space
[08:17] <crimsun> phiber_optic: does it work on the same machine in another OS?
[08:17] <phiber_optic> yes in windows
[08:17] <damian> irawan: gdm
[08:17] <dfgas> do all in wonder ati cards work right in ubuntu?
[08:17] <crimsun> phiber_optic: you definitely have a resource allocation error, then
[08:17] <sn00p> does anybody know where theplugins folder is for firefox is under linux?
[08:17] <crimsun> phiber_optic: try booting with irqpoll
[08:17] <damian> sn00p: /usr/libs/firefox/plugins
[08:18] <phiber_optic> how can i fix that??
[08:18] <phiber_optic> irqpoll?
[08:18] <crimsun> phiber_optic: you probably won't be able to fix it. The best you can do is to hope Linux has a way of working around it.
[08:18] <phiber_optic> crimsun, why does this happen?
[08:18] <sn00p> damian it says no such directory
[08:19] <crimsun> phiber_optic: Linux's ACPI support lags Windows's.
[08:19] <Killeroid> sn00p: damian means /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[08:19] <phiber_optic> crimsun, what is ACPI
[08:19] <crimsun> jamin06: you made a typo. That trailing '' is not a double quotation mark; it's two single quotes.
[08:19] <irawan> damian: try sudo gdmsetup
[08:20] <jamin06> http://pastebin.ca/148530
[08:20] <imago> crimsun, my fstab is blank. but i found the way to fix my floppy problem
[08:20] <Healot> !acpi
[08:20] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:21] <phiber_optic> crimsun, so what can i do now?
[08:22] <crimsun> phiber_optic: try booting with irqpoll
[08:22] <phiber_optic> how do i do that?
[08:22] <crimsun> phiber_optic: append it to the kernel command line in grub
[08:22] <billybennett> Anyone know if GimpShop works in Dapper?
[08:23] <phiber_optic> crimsun, the menu.lst?
[08:23] <crimsun> jamin06: so if both 'PCM' and 'Master' are set to %90, sound is still inaudible?
[08:23] <crimsun> phiber_optic: no
[08:24] <ltR> whats the easiest way to install XGL?
[08:24] <crimsun> phiber_optic: reboot, and when you get to the boot menu, press 'e' on the first entry, scroll down (using the down arrow key) to the kernel line, edit it by adding irqpoll to the end, then press enter and 'b' to boot
[08:24] <Quack> Hi
[08:24] <phiber_optic> ok ill do that know
[08:24] <phiber_optic> ill be back
[08:24] <phiber_optic> ok
[08:24] <jamin06> crimsun: yes sound is inaudible
[08:25] <dfgas> anyone know anything about aiw ati cards?
[08:25] <Quack> I need some help, whenever I try to install the latest DRI snapshot from dri.freedesktop.org, it tells me "ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile". Does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:25] <crparr> Hi! I'm trying to setup postfix on ubuntu 5.04 but I get the following fatal error:
[08:25] <crparr> majestix:~# /etc/init.d/postfix start
[08:25] <crparr>  * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent...
[08:25] <crparr>  *stfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory
[08:25] <valehru> where can I get libjack.so?
[08:25] <jamin06> crimsun: when i play music in amaroK it says "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.
[08:25] <smeggy> is anyone running compiz/xgl with twinview?
[08:25] <jesus43> hello
[08:26] <TBNolan> your favorite mp3 player?
[08:26] <crparr> How can this error be fixed?
[08:28] <crimsun> jamin06: those are completely different symptoms
[08:28] <crimsun> jamin06: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[08:28] <MagicFab> can I install/boot Ubuntu from USB on a Mac (ppc) ?
[08:28] <jamin06> crimsun: do you want to see the output?
[08:29] <crimsun> jamin06: yes
[08:29] <BNOsaosin> if anyone has any knowledge of XGL, please help me out :(
[08:29] <crimsun> BNOsaosin: have you asked in #ubuntu-xgl ?
[08:29] <jamin06> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/148535
[08:30] <BNOsaosin> nope, thanks :)
[08:30] <phiber_optic> crimsun, it didnt do anything
[08:30] <phiber_optic> :(
[08:30] <Samuli^> jamin06, what happens if quit skype?
[08:30] <jamin06> music plays
[08:31] <Quack> Can someone help me out? ive been googling for hours trying to get this "ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile" (for intel 915 dri drivers) fixed
[08:31] <Quack> "
[08:31] <jamin06> ok
[08:31] <crimsun> phiber_optic: it's not generally supposed to "do anything" noticeable. Pastebin your ``dmesg''
[08:31] <jamin06> well thanks
[08:31] <Samuli^> jamin06, download skype_dsp_hijacker and use it to start skype.
[08:31] <jamin06> where do i get it?
[08:31] <jamin06> package man
[08:31] <crimsun> em.
[08:31] <jamin06> or term
[08:31] <crimsun> jamin06: why not use the newest Skype beta that's compatible with alsa?
[08:32] <ivx> can anyone tell me if antivirus is necessary for linux.
[08:32] <jamin06> shoot why not
[08:32] <crimsun> any app that grabs /dev/dsp will hog it, blocking other apps from using it, on your chipset (which doesn't support hardware multiopen).
[08:32] <levander> ivx: i don't have it, but you should probably make sure to regularly install the security updates from ubuntu
[08:32] <phiber_optic> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21626
[08:32] <jamin06> i wasnt aware i was using an old version
[08:33] <ivx> levander: so all spyware and stuff like comet cursor will not be a problem
[08:34] <harisund> How do I tell Ubuntu to do a complete fsck on reboot?
[08:34] <levander> ivx: i've never had a problem with it, i know there's some company that has antivirus for linux, but i can't even remember who they are, most people don't run it
[08:34] <hush> yay everybody I FIXED MY LINUX :)
[08:34] <jamin06> ok well thanks alot
[08:34] <jamin06> im out
[08:34] <nich0s> hush, you rock!
[08:34] <harisund> Good for you hush
[08:34] <hush> feels good to be back
[08:34] <ivx> levander thank you.
[08:34] <crimsun> phiber_optic: well your onboard isn't going to work at all unless you enable it in bios:  hda-intel: no codecs found!
[08:35] <levander> harisund: either boot into single user mode an run fsck, or boot off a LiveCD and fsck the hard drive you want to is what i usually do
[08:35] <phiber_optic> what about my soundblaster??
[08:35] <harisund> levander if I boot into single user mount, won't the disks get mounted? Or do you intend me to unmount it?
[08:36] <BHSPitLappy> got a problem, I just installed Ubuntu on a PC, but GRUB didn
[08:36] <phiber_optic> I dont want the onboard sound card...
[08:36] <BHSPitLappy> didn't get installed.
[08:36] <hush> I've onl;y been messing around on Linux Ubuntu for about 4 or 5 days - and the XORG error thing messed up my last installation so I reinstalled tonight and just got it back on and updated
[08:36] <BHSPitLappy> I'm booted to the livecd again, is there anything I can do?
[08:36] <levander> harisund: i'm not sure, just type 'mount' without any arguments to see what gets mounted, the root (and if you have a boot) partitions will get mounted, if you want to fsck those, boot off a livecd
[08:36] <dfgas> how do i install a .deb package?
[08:36] <harisund> levander yeah .. looks I have no other option then .. ok will do with a live CD itself. Thanks :)
[08:37] <harisund> dfgas typically you should be able to double click on it and the Gdebi will walk you through its installation
[08:37] <BHSPitLappy> dfgas, double-click on it?
[08:37] <lightstar> dfgas, sudo dpkg -i <pkgname>
[08:37] <dfgas> k
[08:37] <dfgas> ty
[08:38] <phiber_optic> crimsun, ??
[08:38] <Cine> greetings all
[08:38] <crimsun> phiber_optic: your sound blaster isn't detected at all
[08:39] <phiber_optic> crimsun,  yeahh i know what can I do so it gets detected...
[08:39] <crimsun> phiber_optic: if you don't want onboard, fine. Try pci=routeirq, but be aware that if it's not even detected in pci space, it won't work. At all.
[08:39] <gnux123> How can I configure nautilus for tab browsing?
[08:40] <phiber_optic> crimsun,  do u know why it couldnt be detected??
[08:41] <Cine> I recently instlaled a new ATI graphics card which works fine in windows, but of course doesn't work under ubuntu and I can't get the GUI up, anyone point me to instructions on how to set it up from the command prompt?
[08:41] <crimsun> phiber_optic: I can only guess, because your precise hardware isn't sitting right in front of me to poke at
[08:41] <nalpha> asking... how to restart apache server on my ubuntu?
[08:41] <phiber_optic> crimsun, loll
[08:41] <lightstar> nalioth, sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[08:42] <nalpha> thanx
[08:42] <lightstar> np
[08:42] <byen> Guys, i really need some help.. my system keeps locking up and i have to reboot... anyway i can find out? i had my system lock up 4 times in 24 hours
[08:42] <TBNolan> i can navigate to a windows share using the gui, but where would the path be for that same windows share?
[08:43] <lightstar> byen, you can try to tail your system logs in  /var/log.. see whats causing it
[08:46] <byen> lightstar, i see something like Aug 24 22:28:33 localhost -- MARK --
[08:46] <byen> many times
[08:46] <byen> what does that mean?
[08:48] <lightstar> byen, hang on
[08:49] <lightstar> byen, run this command gnome-system-log
[08:50] <lightstar> byen, then check the log to see any error around the time your pc hung
[08:50] <byen> lightstar, its empty
[08:51] <lightstar> byen, you need to open the lg files using it:)
[08:51] <byen> ok.. i loaded system log
[08:52] <lightstar> byen, try opening syslog..it'd b more helpful
[08:52] <justin_> How come Flux is slower then KDE?
[08:52] <justin_> Am I the only one experiencing this or what?
[08:53] <byen> lightstar, im lost... the last thing i reinstalled was the latest update
[08:53] <lightstar> byen, that's strange..what update did you install?
[08:53] <byen> the latest xserver
[08:54] <byen> the updated one
[08:54] <byen> and the murrine engine lightstar
[08:54] <byen> could be the engine
[08:55] <lightstar> byen, not too sure...the syslog will be helpful in trying to figure out the cause..you just have to go through the log
[08:55] <internat> how does one set up the default kernel in grub
[08:56] <lightstar> internat, edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and change the line that says "default" to the new number
[08:56] <e-type> internat: with the "default N" line, see '$ info grub'
[09:00] <hush> hey guys whats the channel for chatting i forget - sorry
[09:00] <wookienz> hi, looking for some help with a broadcom bcm43xx driver and wpcmcia ireless card
[09:00] <hush> ubuntu offtopic?
[09:00] <lightstar> hush, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:00] <hush> lightstar: thanks man!
[09:01] <lightstar> hush, np;)
[09:01] <hush> <---noob.
[09:01] <hush> 5days old
[09:01] <wookienz> what cant we talk about in here versus off topic?
[09:01] <hush> this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:01] <wookienz> cool, what i need then
[09:01] <hush> offtopic is for chat
[09:02] <hush> i know cuz i got in trouble for talking in here the other night
[09:02] <hush> :)
[09:04] <internat> ok as a stupid question im compiling my own kernel, how do i get the fglrx modules to compile with it?
[09:04] <wookienz> fair enough. anyone able to help with a broadcom driver ssue?
[09:04] <internat> ive downloaded fglrx-kernel-source and unpacked it but im unsure where to go from there
[09:05] <s-ndh-c> i guess it can be installed using module-assistant like the nvidia driver too
[09:05] <s-ndh-c> but not sure
[09:06] <s-ndh-c> maybe there are prebuild packages for the standard ubuntu kernels in the repo
[09:06] <Flannel> s-ndh-c: there are, search for linux-image
[09:06] <Bonez56_>  hi all, i am building a PC for a family with kids aged 5 and
[09:06] <Bonez56_>                   11, and they want MS windows + *buntu. In your opinion, would
[09:06] <Bonez56_>                   I be better off going with Ubuntu or Edubuntu?
[09:07] <Flannel> Bonez56_: You could always have both installed, they can coexist
[09:07] <internat> yeah actually i think it can be
[09:08] <Bonez56__> any suggestions to my edubuntu or ubuntu question?
[09:09] <BHSPitLappy> !grub
[09:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:09] <Bonez56__> moo
[09:10] <NickGarvey> Bonez56_: I think edubuntu would have good applications already installed, so I would suggest that
[09:10] <octan> supergrub
[09:10] <Flannel> Bonez56__: You could always have both installed, they can coexist
[09:11] <lightstar> Bonez56, they're the same base..just that different applications are by default packaged with diff distribution
[09:11] <Bonez56__> Flannel: yeah I know - but too much maintainence for me. How different is Edubuntu from Ubuntu?
[09:11] <Flannel> Bonez56__: maintainance?  Just install them both, what additional maintainance is there?
[09:12] <NickGarvey> Flannel: wasted disk space I'd think
[09:12] <Bonez56__> Flannel: they are typical average joe users, when it breaks, guess who they call?
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Bonez56_: actually, after thinking it over, I would install ubuntu, and go to the edubuntu webpage and download the applications it shows
[09:13] <Bonez56__> NickGarvey: yeah thanks for the idea, i think i'll do that for sure
[09:13] <NickGarvey> Bonez56_: because edubuntu allows you too boot thin clients and other nice things.. but you don't need them
[09:13] <Bonez56__> yeah that is true
[09:13] <Crazed> Is there a tool to control the bandwidth of a application?
[09:13] <Bonez56__> Ubuntu will be fine, i'll just add on as much educational type games and apps that i can find
[09:14] <Bonez56__> thanks anyway flannel, your idea is good but these people really have no clue about computers... for some reason they asked for ubuntu
[09:14] <cafuego> wookienz: Tell us about your issue.
[09:15] <Crazed> Is there a tool to control the bandwidth of a application?
[09:15] <octan> nop
[09:15] <octan> but you can use tc
[09:15] <Crazed> tc?
[09:15] <wookienz> cafuego, i recognise your names from the bits i have read! hopefully you can help. i cant get the card to work with the bcm43xx driver. i have a linksys wpc54g pcmcia card. ndis is no worries, its working now, but not the broad om dirver. i wan tto run kismet, connect ot the net, air crack etc.
[09:16] <octan> yes. but it just controlls the entire bandwidth
[09:16] <Crazed> lol
[09:16] <Crazed> thats crap
[09:16] <octan> :P
[09:16] <Crazed> dont need that :)
[09:16] <cafuego> wookienz: Neihter driver supports kismet; or monitor mode. You should be able to connect to networks though.
[09:16] <octan> Crazed, what app do you need to restrict bandwidth ?
[09:17] <octan> erm.
[09:17] <Crazed> erm enough ..
[09:17] <Crazed> just some random apps
[09:17] <cafuego> wookienz: I assume you've checked the wiki and have the firmware installed?
[09:17] <x81> how can i find the location of my ubuntu boot partition?
[09:17] <Bonez56__> x81: /etc/inittab
[09:17] <x81> tnks
[09:18] <octan> Crazed, try looking into tc and see if it can manipulate the ports the apps use.. if it does that then you can restrict the bandwidth
[09:18] <Crazed> ok
[09:20] <wookienz> cafuego, the wiki on the ubuntu site?  ok with kistmet, im not sure why i cant connect to networks then. i have been doing plenty of ndis wrapper removing and bcm43xx adding etc. got a specific link in the wiki. i have read and owloaded alot fo hoe to and some stuff off he ubuntu site but with no luck as yet
[09:20] <Crazed> octan: tc is the full package name ?
[09:20] <cafuego> wookienz: The connecting to networks takes a little while; depending on the exact model of card you have.
[09:20] <octan> i think you should have it installed.. man tc to check
[09:21] <x81> i still cant find the location of my ubuntu boot partition
[09:22] <Shadowpillar> say, isnt realplayer providing windows media codecs as part of microsoft's antitrust?
[09:22] <octan> Crazed, http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Traffic-Control-tcng-HTB-HOWTO/examples.html
[09:22] <Psykus> how would I change resolution for the login window/greeter? it's defaulting to 1600x1200 while I have my desktop at 1280x1024
[09:25] <det> Is it normal that I dont have a /dev/snd/seq device ?
[09:26] <crimsun> yes.
[09:26] <crimsun> you'd need to modprobe snd-seq
[09:26] <CyberMad> what is the best switch device? i use compex but usually got request time out when ping my other computer
[09:27] <dingus9> is anyone here good with efi and or elilo stuff? I need some advice.
[09:27] <Lumio> hello
[09:27] <Lumio> how to change the boot list?
[09:28] <dingus9> what boot list?
[09:28] <Lumio> ahm
[09:28] <Lumio> i installed ubuntu
[09:29] <dingus9> nice
[09:29] <dingus9> and
[09:29] <Lumio> and it installed a bootmanager where windows xp and ubuntu got listed
[09:29] <Lumio> and i want to configurate this list
[09:29] <dingus9> menu.lst
[09:29] <dingus9> ?
[09:29] <Lumio> where can i find it
[09:30] <meathead> can someone help me configure mysql?
[09:30] <dingus9> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:30] <Lumio> thx
[09:30] <meathead> I'm trying to install flux torrent
[09:30] <dingus9> meathead: mysqladmin
[09:30] <meathead_> dingus9: I know the name of the command, it's giving me an error I don't understand
[09:31] <dingus9> ah
[09:31] <dingus9> your root?
[09:31] <wmealing_> hey guys, wondering if anyone has sucessfully installed ubuntu on a macbook via ( http://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso )
[09:31] <wmealing_> i tried it about 2 months ago
[09:31] <meathead_> when I type: meathead@quack:~$ mysqladmin -u root -p create torrentflux
[09:31] <wmealing_> and it crashed on the very last step, i guess it couldnt deal with EFI
[09:31] <wmealing_> that may not have been 6.06.1
[09:31] <wmealing_> maybe it was just 6.06
[09:31] <dingus9> wmealing_: not yet im trying ritght now
[09:31] <meathead_> I get an error: error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[09:31] <wmealing_> dingus9, macbook ?
[09:32] <Psykus> anyone know how to change the resolution of the greeter/login window?
[09:32] <meathead_> is that my user password for linux, or for mysql?
[09:32] <dingus9> wmealing_: yah im having trouble with elilo
[09:32] <wmealing_> yeah, i might give ubuntu a miss then
[09:32] <wmealing_> fc6 beta installs fine.
[09:33] <dingus9> wmealing_: I am thinking it may be advantagous to us bootcamp but I am not sure
[09:33] <justin_> What is the file I have to edit again to use a module every boot up?
[09:33] <wmealing_> although, they broke my wifi
[09:33] <dingus9> meathead_: hang a sec
[09:33] <justin_> /etc/modules?
[09:33] <wmealing_> i had to compile madwifi by hand, but networkmanager is doing something wierd.
[09:34] <justin_> Indeed it is :)
[09:34] <meathead_> dingus9: k
[09:36] <meathead_> dingus9: I actually just figured out that I was typing the wrong password, but now I'm getting an error that the database already exists, yet I would like to create a new database
[09:37] <dingus9> meathead_: ok
[09:37] <meathead_> dingus9: do you know how to delete the old?
[09:37] <dingus9> meathead_: yah
[09:42] <nn> Is there a way to perhaps set up apt and friends to instead of fetching binary packages, grab the source (keeping a local copy of it and patches/etc) for the package, build it with locally defined compiler flags/special options, install the newly built package, and deposit it in a local apt repository? Sounds almost stupid to want to do, but i've got many reasons for this.. perhaps debian channel might be better place to ask this?
[09:43] <trista1> I just downloaded glipper-0.89.tar.gz, how do I install it??
[09:43] <distantbody> trista1: right click> extract
[09:43] <trista1> ok
[09:44] <trista1> done
[09:44] <ivx> can anyone tell me why it is saying bash: rpm: command not found
[09:44] <distantbody> trista1: do you know how to open terminal?
[09:44] <Healot> !alien
[09:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[09:44] <trista1> yea
[09:44] <trista1> i already installed build-essential
[09:45] <trista1> with the package manager
[09:45] <ivx> well then how can i get limewire. it only lets me download the an rpm at limewire.com
[09:45] <Healot> !info frostwire
[09:45] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[09:45] <distantbody> trista1: change the directory with "cd" to the new directory that the file was extracted to.
[09:45] <nouser> Can someone give me some usefule syntax that replaces, the gentoos emerge update, and emerge -s ?
[09:45] <trista1> ok
[09:45] <Healot> !find frost
[09:46] <ubotu> Package/file frost does not exist in dapper
[09:46] <aeolus> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:46] <trista1> done
[09:46] <distantbody> trista1:  is there a ".pl" file anywhere?
[09:47] <Healot> nouser: read the following factoid
[09:47] <Healot> !apt
[09:47] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:47] <trista1> no
[09:48] <nouser> !Synaptic
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Synaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <meathead_> dingus9: well thanks for the help :P
[09:48] <dingus9> uh... ok
[09:48] <trista1> I used ./configure
[09:49] <tuxvix> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:49] <trista1> but when I did make, I got an errot
[09:49] <trista1> error
[09:49] <distantbody> trista1:  ok. well try this "sudo ./EXAMPLE.FILE" with a few of the files...
[09:49] <DesertEagle7> LOL
[09:49] <DesertEagle7> what a jerk.
[09:49] <nouser> !apt-get manual
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get manual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <milkyway> Hello all, anyone familiar with libapache2-mod-php5 segmentation faults ?
[09:50] <Madpilot> BenC, woodgrain, BHSPitLappy, kazukisan, pitti - you all need to get your connections to Freenode fixed, or your routers updated.
[09:50] <Madpilot> !exploit
[09:50] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. For information on the bug: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068  and to fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[09:51] <BenC> maddox: it's called crappy wireless in this hotel
[09:51] <aeolus> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[09:51] <trista1> nothing is working
[09:51] <Hazarath> I need a good Yahoo client. Something that'll support Yahoo chat and webcam, voice, etc.
[09:52] <DrDoom> Ubuntu needs some better WPA support.
[09:52] <BenC> Madpilot: we blame the hotel
[09:52] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, yahoo has a linux clien
[09:52] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, Indeed?
[09:52] <Hazarath> Nice.
[09:52] <Madpilot> BenC, set your IRC client differently, you shoudn't be hit by the DCC stuff
[09:53] <BenC> I'm not
[09:53] <BenC> no idea what you are talking about
[09:53] <Madpilot> BenC, yes you are, everytime there's a DCC exploit you go down with about six others
[09:53] <Healot> DrDoom: : it's rather the job of wifi hardware manufacturer's job
[09:53] <livingdaylight> WoaH!!!
[09:53] <Madpilot> !exploit
[09:53] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. For information on the bug: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068  and to fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[09:54] <Madpilot> BenC, read that ^^^
[09:54] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, Webcam and etc?
[09:54] <livingdaylight> #ubuntu has become a secret members club
[09:54] <livingdaylight> you gotta know the handshake
[09:54] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, no idea, but I know they have a client and since it's first party It is your best bet
[09:54] <BenC> Madpilot: no, pitti and I are dropping because this hotel here has bad internet access, there's nothing we can do about it
[09:55] <Madpilot> BenC, you're dropping with every DCC attack - that, you might be able to do something about. Read the last URL in ubotu's post above
[09:55] <BenC> I can stay off the channel, but not my else
[09:56] <valehru> wine is looking for CD 2 during the install, however when I try and use sudo umount /media/cdrom0 it says its busy,,,
[09:56] <BenC> Madpilot: I'll live...Not really concerned about it
[09:56] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, I can't run... dependancy issues.
[09:57] <BHSPitLappy> port changed
[09:57] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, whats the problem/
[09:57] <Madpilot> BHSPitLappy, thanks
[09:57] <livingdaylight> Folks, there is an update flashing on my desktop
[09:57] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, Need 'libssl0.9.6'
[09:57] <livingdaylight> Is it safe to implement?
[09:57] <livingdaylight> or will it break my computer again?
[09:57] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, sudo apt-cache search libssl
[09:57] <Madpilot> livingdaylight, yes, the one that broke stuff really was a fluke (we hope...)
[09:58] <livingdaylight> i'm scared to update anything now
[09:58] <livingdaylight> the sacred Trust has been broken
[09:58] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, Now?
[09:58] <livingdaylight>  :|
[09:58] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, you want to install libssl
[09:58] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, whats the exact package name?
[09:59] <BenC> livingdaylight: yeah, the Xorg issues was unfortunate, but believe we are implementing procedures so it doesn't happen again
[09:59] <livingdaylight> Madpilot: I really hope so too!! :D
[09:59] <Hazarath> libssl0.9.7 - SSL shared libraries
[09:59] <livingdaylight> BenC: Thank You for reassuring me  :D
[10:00] <lordhelmet> holy crap i got xen working
[10:00] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, libssl0.9.7 - SSL shared libraries
[10:00] <mormoloc> i tried to install a newer vers of libc6 over and when i try to remove it
[10:00] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.7
[10:00] <mormoloc> said its broken
[10:01] <mormoloc> any ideas  on how to uninstall libc6?
[10:01] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, Error
[10:01] <DesertEagle7> what error?
[10:01] <Hazarath> Reading package lists... Done
[10:01] <Hazarath> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:01] <Hazarath> libssl0.9.7 is already the newest version.
[10:01] <Hazarath> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:01] <DesertEagle7> dont paste here :-P
[10:01] <DesertEagle7> use pastebin.com
[10:02] <Hazarath> That's the full error.
[10:02] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[10:02] <livingdaylight> BenC: what procedure could you be implementing that wasn't already in place? Presumably its a case of testing before releasing which was already teh case. I just still don't understand it got past testing?
[10:02] <eXistenZ> Where can I find a good introductory tutorial about regex?
[10:02] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, No such package.
[10:03] <wolfmanz> How do i get the ctrl+alt+del key to bring up the system monitor?
[10:03] <nouser> I have upgraded the apt-get three but I still cant install amsn (apt-get install amsn) ?
[10:03] <BenC> livingdaylight: testing wasn't extensive enough...the main procedure that we are going to implement is better use of dapper-proposed-updates, which will allow us to get more testing from users willing to except possible breakage, before moving packages into actual dapper-updates
[10:03] <octan> wolfmanz xbindkeys
[10:03] <BenC> s/except/accept/
[10:03] <mormoloc> how do i update the repository?
[10:03] <octan> wolfmanz, you need to remap the keys
[10:04] <MatthewV> mormoloc, sudo apt-get update ?
[10:04] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, ugh, I havent used linux in so long... and this is why
[10:04] <mormoloc> 10x
[10:04] <BenC> livingdaylight: the xorg update totally skipped proposed-updates
[10:04] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, You know this is a ubuntu [Linux]  chan, yes?
[10:05] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, yes, Ubuntu is the linux I use when I do use it.
[10:05] <DesertEagle7> :-P
[10:05] <livingdaylight> BenC: that totally amazes me. Still, valuable lesson if taken onboard, which it sounds like Ubuntu has - thx for sharing that  :)
[10:05] <Hazarath> DesertEagle7, That's my Linux I'm running now... can ya help me?
[10:05] <DesertEagle7> Hazarath, I used to be an expert, now I'm a novice
[10:06] <Hazarath> Any one elseup to helpin' meh? lol
[10:06] <octan> wolfmanz, example.. put this in ~/.xbindkeys
[10:06] <octan> "name of monitor-app"
[10:06] <octan>   control+alt + del
[10:06] <Hazarath> ^else up
[10:06] <BenC> livingdaylight: It was somewhat fortunate that we were all here together in Germany...it gave us a chance to discuss what happened and decide on how to prevent it
[10:06] <BenC> livingdaylight: We had a very long discussion about it :)
[10:07] <BenC> I think there will be some information released with more details on it for the community
[10:07] <empement> well hi i have a problem with GNOME, i don't understand why but every time i installed Ubuntu GNOME seemed to be HEAVY (this doesn't happen in Fedora), i just installed Xfce to see if i would have the same problems, well it runs pretty smoothly. i have P4 2.8GH 1.5GB Ram 200 GB HD Nvidia 6600GT so my system should be fine, can you give me some advices about what might be responsible?
[10:07] <octan> wolfmanz, then run xbindkeys -f /home/user/.xbindkeys
[10:08] <mormoloc> i have to broken packages, How do i un - reinstall them? (in synaptic it say http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21627)
[10:08] <mormoloc> to=two
[10:09] <Calvin> Excuse me, anyone help? I installed Thunderbird and the webmail extension in Ubuntu, trying to get access to hotmail, and unless i use "sudo mozilla-thunderbird" to start the application, thunderbird alerts me:"Could not connect to sever localhost; the connection was refused"
[10:09] <octan> mormoloc,  -f ?
[10:09] <octan> apt-get -f install app
[10:09] <Hazarath> Anyone? lol
[10:09] <mormoloc> f what?
[10:09] <octan> fix
[10:10] <mormoloc> actan: will try
[10:10] <octan> Hazarath, ?
[10:11] <Hazarath> octan, I need to install a chat room capable Yahoo client. The first party client won't install for dependency issues.
[10:12] <UU> ..
[10:12] <Hazarath> octan, Any help?
[10:12] <octan> dependency issues what are they?
[10:13] <milkyway> could anyone give me some advice on apache2 configuration please?
[10:13] <wolfmanz> octan: do i have to make a file ?
[10:14] <abhinay> i got GPG error for http://xgl.compiz.info dapper repo , how to correct it ?
[10:14] <octan> wolfmanz, yes
[10:14] <abhinay> says no public key is available ?? Any suggestions
[10:14] <octan> a file called .xbindkeysrc
[10:14] <octan> in your home dir
[10:14] <Hazarath> Need 'libssl0.9.6' Tried to install 'libssl0.9.7 is already the newest version.'
[10:15] <octan> 0.9.8 is out tho
[10:15] <Hazarath> Tried to downgrade: Packagenot found
[10:15] <gnux123> abhinay: wget http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[10:15] <gord_> abhinay: try this   wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[10:15] <UU> How to switch to xubuntu  if the default loaded gnome.
[10:15] <gnux123> hehe
[10:15] <ju1ce> does anyone know whats the best clipboard manager?
[10:15] <livingdaylight> BenC: I'm really glad to hear it. It sounds like Providence played a hand. I can tell you as a Human Being and non-techi to have x borked and be suddenly thrown in front of a black screen with a flashing cursor was a shock.
[10:15] <abhinay> gnux123, thank you
[10:16] <gnux123> gord also
[10:16] <empement> well hi i have a problem with GNOME, i don't understand why but every time i installed Ubuntu GNOME seemed to be HEAVY (this doesn't happen in Fedora), i just installed Xfce to see if i would have the same problems, well it runs pretty smoothly. i have P4 2.8GH 1.5GB Ram 200 GB HD Nvidia 6600GT so my system should be fine, can you give me some advices about what might be responsible?
[10:16] <gnux123> NP
[10:16] <BenC> livingdaylight: I can only imagine...wasn't a pleasant experience for anyone I suspect
[10:16] <gord_> :-)
[10:16] <octan> http://www.thatimagesite.com/image/65
[10:16] <gnux123> I just fast for pasting
[10:16] <gnux123> lol
[10:17] <wolfmanz> octan: is it xbindkeysrc or xbindkey  ?
[10:17] <ld> hi, how do I share a folder with a windows network?
[10:18] <octan> wolfmanz, the file is called xbindkeysrc the app that read the file is called xbindkeys.. so the file need to be xbindkeysrc
[10:18] <vasyl> can someone help me with broadcom card and network manager?
[10:18] <latteye> ld, use samba
[10:18] <ld> latteye: could you give me an example?
[10:19] <WhiteWolf_> I take it this is the offical Ubuntu irc channel?
[10:19] <livingdaylight> BenC: no! especially since i blamed myself and spent hours looking for the prblem where it wasn't! suckered a linux-guru friend into it too, lol Eventually remov3d X altogether!!! Lesson learnt: before panicking like a headless chicken: check the #channels and forums and check if other experience the same problem.
[10:20] <vasyl> ld: right button on the folder then click share floder (using samba) but make sure your /etc/samba/smb.conf points to a correct workgroup
[10:20] <latteye> ld, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/  look at here
[10:20] <livingdaylight> BenC: it just never occured to me to assume that the responsability could lay with Ubuntu. I took it as an article of Faith that updates are good
[10:20] <livingdaylight> BenC: but we're all Human  :p
[10:20] <morphycs> when i install a .deb package on ubuntu using the package manager, it ask about dependencies, do i have to install this dep first manually?
[10:20] <ivx> can anyone shoot me a link on how to get the codec to play mp3s
[10:21] <BenC> livingdaylight: it's ok if in the future you blame us first for any problems you experience again :)
[10:21] <latteye> ivx, apt-get install win32codecs
[10:21] <vasyl> can someone help me access a WPA wifi with network manager, it doesnt seem to see my wifi card eventough I see it in iwconfig and iwlist scan works too
[10:22] <`paul> im installing ubuntu dapper and when its around 84% (configuring apt) it stalled what should i do?
[10:22] <ld> the group is ok, available, browsable and pulibc are set to yes... is there anything else I need?
[10:22] <ivx> latteye it returns:  apt-get install win32codecs
[10:22] <DrDoom> lol
[10:22] <ld> s/group/workgroup/
[10:22] <ivx> latteye pasted wrong
[10:22] <latteye> wait a sec
[10:23] <vasyl> ld: guest ok = yes on the share
[10:23] <ivx> latteye it returns E: Couldn't find package win32codecs
[10:23] <torpor> hi all .. i seem to have an NVIDIA mess on my hands .. earlier this week i ran afoul of the XGL/Compiz problem, and to try to fix it i got the NVIDIA-Linux-8762.run driver file from NVIDIA and installed it.. now, every time i reboot, i have to re-install that driver .. it only seems to work 'once', or at least something during the reboot resets whatever that .run file does to my system and makes it not work.  is there a standard Ubuntu way
[10:23] <torpor> to handle NVIDIA driver updates, and is there some fix i can do to get my system to just use the ubuntu method?
[10:23] <sn00p> Is there a way to know whwat usb device drivers are loaded?
[10:23] <vasyl>  `paul verify that your cd is not corrupter I was stuck at about the same place cause I had a scrath on my cd
[10:24] <torpor> is this a FAQ?
[10:24] <torpor> !nvidia
[10:24] <latteye> ivx, apt-get install w32codecs
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <ld> vasyl: still can't connect... windows asks for user/password...
[10:24] <`paul> so ill do it all over again?
[10:24] <`paul> and if it stalled at the same place then maybe its a prob with the cd?
[10:26] <vasyl> ld: whats ur security level in smb.conf?
[10:26] <ld> vasyl: it's not set
[10:26] <ld> vasyl: what should I set it to?
[10:26] <ivx> latteye it says Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:26] <ivx> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:26] <ivx> is only available from another source
[10:26] <ivx> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:27] <vasyl> ld: depends on your needs either user or share
[10:27] <latteye> ivx, use china source.list
[10:27] <ld> vasyl: I need to share a folder for everyone to see without restriction
[10:27] <ivx> latteye i don't know what that means
[10:28] <UU> I had apt-get install xubuntu and completed,but it's loading gnome at boot. could you tell me how to switch xfce ??
[10:28] <sn00p> Hello, I  just bought a laptop that has a camera mIcrodia usb 2.0 webcam   and I have a hp laptop can anybody tell me a program to use with it and which drivers are nessecary?
[10:28] <wolfmanz> octan: does this require a reboot to work?
[10:28] <octan> no
[10:28] <vasyl> ld: share then
[10:28] <ld> vasyl: doesn't work :( same problem
[10:28] <wolfmanz> octan:
[10:28] <wolfmanz> gnome-system-monitor
[10:28] <wolfmanz> control+alt+del
[10:29] <wolfmanz> octan: that right?
[10:29] <latteye> ivx, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <ld> vasyl: what do I need to restart?
[10:29] <octan> wolfmanz, no
[10:29] <latteye> ivx, and add deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:29] <latteye> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:29] <latteye> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:29] <latteye> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:29] <latteye> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu-cn/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:29] <octan> "gnome-system-monitor"
[10:29] <octan>  control+alt+del
[10:29] <vasyl> ld: http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[10:29] <latteye> ivx, apt-get update
[10:29] <ld> vasyl: ok, thanks alot for the help :)
[10:29] <latteye> ivx, then you can install the package
[10:30] <michael__> questions about grub editing for dual boot ok here? or do they have their own channel?
[10:30] <vasyl> ld: if security = share doesnt work youre missing something and I cant go line by line in your smb.conf to see what is causing it
[10:30] <ld> vasyl: I understand :) I was wondering though what I need to restart for the changes to take effect, in ubuntu
[10:31] <UU> I had apt-get install xubuntu and completed,but it's loading gnome at boot. could you tell me how to switch xfce ??
[10:31] <philip_> hi. I need to run "iwpriv eth0 set_power 7" on boot to enable power management on my wireless card. is there a clean way to hook this to the loading of the network card module, or do I need to write a new init script?
[10:31] <vasyl> ld: nothing samba reloads its config file every 60 secs so the changes work on the fly
[10:31] <octan> mc
[10:31] <ld> vasyl: ok, thanks again
[10:31] <gord_> philip... you could put it in /etc/rc.local
[10:32] <irawan> UU: during login, change the session to xfce
[10:32] <empement> hi does anyone have any ideas why "my" GNOME feels heavy as hell? Xfce runs very smoothly. (P4 2.8GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 200GB HD, Nvidia 6600GT)
[10:32] <UU> tks
[10:32] <wolfmanz> octan: ok so i got everything setup and nothing happens when i hot the keys what gives?
[10:32] <vasyl> ld: Ill be idle for about 5 mins then be back if you want I could paste you my smb.conf maybe youll see something there ... but I just followed the guide and if I send you my smb.conf you'll never learn how to make it work ;)
[10:33] <philip_> gord_: ah, thanks
[10:33] <gord_> NP Philip...
[10:33] <octan> wolfmanz weird
[10:33] <morphycs> when i install a .deb package on ubuntu using the package manager, it ask about dependencies, do i have to install this dep first manually?
[10:33] <ld> vasyl: nah, don't worry :) I'll try to figure it out myself some other time when I'm not in a hurry :)
[10:33] <octan> wolfmanz,  cat /home/you/.xbindkeys rc
[10:34] <gord_> morphycs: If you're installing the deb from gbebi, no.. it'll go get the deps as needed
[10:34] <ivx> latteye i did that but it is still returing the same thing
[10:34] <wolfmanz> "gnome-system-monitor"
[10:34] <wolfmanz> control+alt+del
[10:35] <wolfmanz> octan: thats what i have
[10:35] <gord_> s/sbebi/gdebi
[10:36] <octan> wolfmanz, it works here
[10:36] <octan> wolfmanz, but i use diffrent keys
[10:36] <vasyl> can someone help me access a WPA protected wifi with network manager? it doesnt seem to see my wifi card eventough I see it with iwconfig and iwlist scan finds my wpa proteced network
[10:36] <octan> wolfmanz,
[10:36] <octan> "gnome-system-monitor"
[10:36] <octan>  control + shift + d
[10:36] <wolfmanz> octan: i just had to install that xkeybind thing before i did all this does that require a reboot before it works?
[10:36] <octan> wolfmanz, no
[10:36] <morphycs> gord, yes i'm using gdebi and it gives the error "dependency is not satisfiable: xlib6g"
[10:37] <DrDoom> vasyl, I gave up on that a long time ago ;)
[10:37] <octan> wolfmanz, maybe restart X.. but try my config before you restart anything.
[10:37] <gord_> what version of xlib6g is it looking for?
[10:37] <larsemil> as i try to start GDM i get a long errormsg ending with http://pastebin.com/775516 , i was changing in xorg.conf(sadly without backing it up), and all i changed was the mousesection... i have tried to install the latest atidrivers but no luck.
[10:37] <vasyl> DrDoom: I got it working in breezy but dapper doesnt seem to want to help me :D
[10:38] <morphycs> gord_: yes i'm using gdebi and it gives the error "dependency is not satisfiable: xlib6g"
[10:38] <latteye> ivx, are you use ubuntu 6.06?
[10:38] <DrDoom> Yeah I had it working too, but WPAsupplicant has a bug where it fails to decrypt broadcast data.
[10:38] <wolfmanz> octan: ya ok i did your keys cobo and it works
[10:38] <WhiteWolf_> hey, can anyone help me with this problem, my GUI will no longer load and i'm now stuck using the terimal. Does this mean i will have to reformat?
[10:38] <DrDoom> Such as DHCP req, and such
[10:38] <wolfmanz> octan: combo
[10:38] <ivx> latteye yes i found a tutorial i'm going to try it real quick
[10:39] <azcazandco> hi everyone....  I have some freaky things going on in ubuntu which I wouldn't mind some assistance with
[10:39] <DrDoom> So I kept getting kicked offline and disconnected, it really suced.
[10:39] <DrDoom> sucked*
[10:39] <Corporal_Dirge> I'm looking for a really good graphing calculator for Ubuntu. Anyone know a good one?
[10:39] <morphycs> gord_,  it didn't say, i'm using the graphical interface
[10:39] <larsemil> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:39] <larsemil> but no luck
[10:39] <octan> wolfmanz, play with it ;)
[10:39] <azcazandco> I have lost my keymappings and cannot install available updates
[10:39] <vasyl> DrDoom: maybe it got corrected?
[10:39] <manopulus> hello. any way to install ubuntu without CD and without network booting, just from iso file (i have linux already at same machine). i did it once for gentoo, so, maybe same way exists for ubuntu?
[10:40] <wolfmanz> octan: i guess it dont like the delete key
[10:40] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, graphcalc is great.
[10:40] <Samuli^> it's not on the repositories, so you have to compile it yourself.
[10:40] <octan> wolfmanz, that might be.. i never use it.
[10:40] <DrDoom> vasyl, possibly, right now i am on my laptop....i just opened the access point because I can't get to sleep ;)))
[10:40] <gnux123> manopulus: debootstrap
[10:40] <gord_> morphycs: I just checked... there is no xlib6g in the standard reps (universe or multiverse)
[10:40] <larsemil> could anyone please help me, i am so frustrated. tried a couple of hours now
[10:40] <manopulus> gnux123: is it part of ubuntu?
[10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> Samuli^, I use that on Win.. Is it Linux too?
[10:41] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, yes, website has the linux source code
[10:41] <gnux123> manopulus: yes
[10:41] <soop> samuli: your operating system has the kernel source code
[10:41] <luke_> i need help
[10:41] <soop> azcazandco: its easier if you install it right the first time
[10:42] <Samuli^> soop, eh-heh :)
[10:42] <Madpilot> azcazandco, did you instasll with a seperate /home partition?
[10:42] <soop> i'll msg you for details
[10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Samuli^, Ug, I have to compile it?
[10:42] <luke_> who can help me get java for linux?
[10:42] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, unless you can find a .deb made for ubuntu
[10:42] <Madpilot> luke_, that's fairly easy
[10:42] <luke_> who can help me get java for linux?????????//
[10:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell luke_ about java
[10:42] <luke_> how/
[10:42] <azcazandco> Madpilot: in what way?
[10:42] <Madpilot> luke_, check the PM you just got from ubotu
[10:42] <azcazandco> I let ubuntu auto partition
[10:42] <luke_> the PM?
[10:42] <Madpilot> azcazandco, then it's probably one giant partition, which is too bad
[10:43] <luke_> package manager?
[10:43] <gord_> PM = Private Message
[10:43] <azcazandco> hmmmm....  could I use gparted to make another partition and copy my data there?
[10:43] <Madpilot> azcazandco, you could, if you've got the space
[10:43] <soop> exactly dude
[10:43] <gnux123> !ubotu
[10:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:43] <Corporal_Dirge> Samuli^, Looks like it's not in SYnaptic. I'll get it tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
[10:44] <HellDragon> night
[10:44] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, try apt-cache search graphing calculator
[10:44] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, there's few in the repositories, didn't like them myself though.
[10:44] <azcazandco> Madpilot: my 250gb external lacie d2 just failed so I cant backup properly
[10:45] <Corporal_Dirge> Samuli^, Yeah, thos are interfaces for the TI line of pocket calcs.
[10:45] <Samuli^> Corporal_Dirge, there's more than the TI-emulator.
[10:45] <octan> wolfmanz, heh the delete key must be names Delete :P
[10:45] <Corporal_Dirge> Samuli^, I have all reps opened and don't see anything else.
[10:45] <Samuli^> I think the best one I found in the repos was called graphmonkey or something like that.
[10:46] <octan> wolfmanz, so it works fine.
[10:46] <octan> "gnome-system-monitor"
[10:46] <octan>  control+ alt + Delete
[10:47] <DrDoom> Is there an ubuntu art channel?
[10:47] <DrDoom> I want to get tips on themage.
[10:47] <octan> wolfmanz, you might need to go to settings and disable the current shortcut for that combo
[10:47] <Madpilot> DrDoom, #ubuntu-artwork
[10:47] <luke_> can someone tell me how to tell what verson of unbuntu i have?
[10:47] <`paul> while installing ubuntu it changed my boot partition how do i revert it to the previous one?
[10:47] <DesertEagle7> Luke, cat /etc/issue
[10:47] <Madpilot> luke_, System->About Ubuntu
[10:47] <DesertEagle7> luke_*
[10:47] <Corporal_Dirge> Luke_ like the kernel?
[10:47] <luke_> kk ty
[10:47] <octan> wolfmanz, xbindkeys -k tells you the name of the keys :)
[10:49] <sgala> Warning: file(): php_stream_sock_ssl_activate_with_method: failed to create an SSL context in, i have this error if I call file("http://something") in dapper... it's only for me or it's a bug?
[10:50] <Patrick_> need help installing ubuntu in my old pentium 200mhz mmx machine with 48mb RAM
[10:50] <DesertEagle7> Patrick_, whats the problem
[10:50] <darksoul_> I got a wine question, can anyone help me out?
[10:50] <luke_> i dont thyink u can\should install linux on such a poor system
[10:50] <Patrick_> so is it impossible?
[10:51] <Lathiat> Patrick_: I'm afraid thats quite a small amount of ram
[10:51] <luke_> u need atleast a 900mega hertz wif 128 mb ram
[10:51] <Lathiat> Patrick_: your best possible bet would be xubuntu
[10:51] <matsj> How can I change password for a user in Terminal?
[10:51] <Lathiat> Patrick_: but even that.. will be stretching it
[10:51] <luke_> i got 128 mb now and its struggling
[10:51] <Lathiat> if you had some more ram it could work
[10:51] <narg_> Patrick_: I'd try something like damn small linux
[10:51] <darksoul_> Everything was fine until i upgraded, then i have this.. "turn off 'compatbillity mode" for steam..
[10:51] <DesertEagle7> luke_, thats not true, you don't need 900mhz
[10:51] <Patrick_> how much is the minimum?
[10:51] <luke_> well its recommended
[10:51] <Lathiat> Patrick_: 128M i would say as a minumim, 184-256 would be better
[10:51] <Lathiat> Patrick_: if you dont have any more ram - try xubuntu
[10:51] <luke_> how do i get the latest version of linux?
[10:51] <Lathiat> not sure but it may scrape along
[10:52] <matsj> How can I change password for a user in Terminal?
[10:52] <Patrick_> but it would run on the 200mhz right?
[10:52] <Lathiat> matsj: are you logged in as that user?
[10:52] <narg_> if its a server, it can run very well on 96megs. :)
[10:52] <Lathiat> Patrick_: yeh 200mhz is fine
[10:52] <darksoul_> Patrick, i managed to get a suse with KDE running on a 400mhz and 80mb ram
[10:52] <Lathiat> for xubuntu, gnome will struggle along
[10:52] <Lathiat> just add lots of swapspace
[10:52] <Lathiat> matsj: if you are logged in as that user the command is 'passwd'
[10:52] <narg_> matsj: if you are another user: sudo passwd <user>, if you are the user, passwd
[10:52] <Lathiat> matsj: or from root 'passwd <user>' for a specific user
[10:52] <neopsyche> hello. greetings
[10:52] <matsj> ok, thnx
[10:53] <Patrick_> does ubuntu have problems with older graphics cards?
[10:53] <darksoul_> can anyone help me with wine? 'compatbillity mode'
[10:53] <DesertEagle7> Patrick_, no it works best with older ones
[10:53] <darksoul_> Patrick_, not from what i know, it should work better with older cards
[10:53] <narg_> Patrick_: Its hit and miss overall, but you've got good chances
[10:53] <luke_> wow any 1 know any ftp sever i can connect to???
[10:53] <darksoul_> DesertEagle7, do you run wine?
[10:53] <neopsyche> can anyone help with a chat related question.. or point me in the right direction..?
[10:53] <Patrick_> my problem is when i install ubuntu in my old cpu, the monitor goes black
[10:53] <neopsyche> implementing icq java chat in a webpage
[10:54] <`paul> while installing ubuntu it changed my boot partition how do i revert it to the previous one?? fdisk?
[10:54] <DesertEagle7> darksoul_, I don't run linux anymore
[10:54] <Madpilot> neopsyche, this isn't really the right channel for that - try #web, for starters
[10:54] <neopsyche> thanks madpilot
[10:55] <narg_> luke_: try the kde one
[10:55] <DesertEagle7> I wonder if I'm wrong for being here, I don't run ubuntu anymore, but I used too and I can help with alot of questions...
[10:55] <luke_> what kde?
[10:56] <narg_> luke_: just an anonymos ftp server is at ftp.kde.org I believe
[10:57] <cjnodell> Hey. I am having a wierd GDM issue
[10:58] <gnux123> DesertEagle7: why?
[10:59] <luke_> how do i open .deb files???
[10:59] <DesertEagle7> luke_, you mean install?
[10:59] <luke_> yes
[10:59] <DesertEagle7> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[10:59] <UU> abiword cann't show chinese in the ms's word
[10:59] <luke_> sorry im a new person to lunix
[10:59] <DesertEagle7> luke_, no problem
[10:59] <cjnodell> Whenever i am at the log in screen, my keyboard suddenly freaks out. the letters yuiophjklbnm and so on become numbers. and are not present anywhere else on the keyboaed. once i am in gnome, the keyboard works fine. Can anybody help me with this?
[11:00] <Daemoz> Try reinstalling gdm?
[11:00] <`paul> how do i change the bootable partition? i installed ubuntu and it changed the boot partition from /dev/hda1  to /dev/hda3 i want to change it back to hda1
[11:01] <DesertEagle7> `paul, use gparted
[11:01] <cjnodell> yep. i did "sudo apt-get remove gdm" followed by "sudo apt-get install gdm" I also reconfigured it with dpkg
[11:01] <Daemoz> mhmm
[11:02] <wolfmanz> octan: thanks for that info finally got it to work with control alt delete after downloading a gui interface for xbind
[11:02] <cjnodell> luckily, i have gdm set up to log me in automaticaly, but i can not acess my guest user acount through gdm cause i can not fully type in the name and password
[11:03] <Daemoz> Try reconfiguring it to another keyboard type
[11:03] <Daemoz> That's near US
[11:03] <soop> ok for anyone that's currently in ubuntu-offtopic and banned me for not reading the guidelines on the channel, and i was banned for asking wtf why do you kick someone for using the term f*ck ... but you wont for fsck as ubunti fsckin rocks is ok but f*ckin isnt
[11:03] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[11:03] <soop> here for your pleasure
[11:03] <luke_> d egal can ya please help me install java?
[11:03] <soop> please avoid the use of swearing and take touchy subject choices such as war, race, religion, politics
[11:03] <luke_> i got thyis file
[11:03] <soop> I didnt think my choice of WILDCARDS was a touchy subject
[11:03] <soop> thanks for the censorship
[11:03] <irawan> UU: it can, provided you have the chinese fonts
[11:03] <soop> does this mean I can't ask
[11:03] <`paul> DesertEagle7: i see the partitions how do i change the boot flag?
[11:04] <soop> is there a package for BitchX in ubuntu?
[11:04] <cjnodell> I will give that a try... if i can figure out how...
[11:04] <luke_> sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb how would i install that? its on the desktop??
[11:04] <DesertEagle7> `paul, I believe you right click and it has an option
[11:04] <Daemoz> Apt-cache search bitch
[11:04] <grexk> Luke: try gdebi
[11:04] <soop> daemoz ... careful, you'll get banned for less than that
[11:04] <DesertEagle7> luke_, cd to the desktop and type sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:04] <Daemoz> soop: it's a program..
[11:04] <grexk> its alot friendlier than dpkg.
[11:04] <manopulus> any curses-based gparted-like partition editor? (parted is not 'visual' ) >
[11:04] <irawan> luke_: try http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:05] <luke_> cd to the desktop?
[11:05] <soop> whats the problem with f*ck though? does that truly ofgfend anyone?
[11:05] <soop> like are we that regimented here?
[11:05] <Daemoz> some people have children on here
[11:05] <luke_> can someone please tell me how to install sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb on the desktop???
[11:06] <irawan> luke_: please try http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:06] <UU> It's need extra chinese package for abiword ?
[11:06] <Daemoz> cd /home/YOURUSERNAME/Desktop
[11:06] <Daemoz> dpkg -i sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[11:06] <grexk> luke_: cd Desktop;sudo gdebi *
[11:06] <`paul> DesertEagle7: theres no option bout the boot flag T_T
[11:06] <luke_> whats with the *?
[11:06] <irawan> UU: I think so, that's what I did
[11:06] <DesertEagle7> luke_, a wildcard so you dont have to type the whole thing
[11:06] <grexk> everything
[11:06] <DesertEagle7> `paul, hmm, I know you can do it on gparted
[11:06] <Daemoz> luke_: /home/YOURUSERNAME/Desktop
[11:06] <Daemoz> Luke_: then dpkg -i sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[11:07] <cjnodell> K, I could not find a way to change my keymap for gdm through  System>Administration>Login Window. Is ther a way to do it with the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file?
[11:08] <k31th> Guys. I have used sendmail in the past however i have changed my MTA to postfix now... but when i do an apt-get update apt-get upgrade its asking to to upgrade // sendmail-base sendmail-cf sensible-mda
[11:08] <Daemoz> --exclude
[11:08] <grexk> k31th I think there a script included in postfix
[11:09] <grexk> there is*
[11:09] <k31th> im a bit concerned that if i allow it to update it might hose my postfix
[11:09] <cjnodell> Or do i have to change he map for my whole system? Everything works fine when i use recovery mode and once i am past GDM
[11:09] <Daemoz> k31th: apt-get upgrade --exclude <blah>
[11:10] <TibaL> hi
[11:10] <k31th> Daemoz: Nothing else needs updating but thanks, ill make note of
[11:12] <TibaL> I have to recompile openssl 0.9.7 with Via PadLock hardware crypto engine, i did an apt-get source on openssl package but i'm a bit confused about what to modify, i checked Makefiles and the patch file but i don't undestand where the patch disables every engines.
[11:12] <TibaL> 0.9.8 sorry
[11:12] <`paul> DesertEagle7: can i pm you here?
[11:12] <DesertEagle7> sure
[11:13] <TibaL> Can you tell me where the patch may disable some openssl engines ?
[11:13] <TibaL> In Makefiles maybe ? thank you
[11:13] <UU> Can you recommend software of office  . It's speed and compatible ms'office.
[11:13] <shinobi2> how do i restart the music plug-in in firefox? right now xmms plays mp3 fine.  i always have to reboot inorder for firefox to restart the music service
[11:14] <ardchoille> When I install something with Synaptic, the installation is kept in Synaptic's history. Where is that history kept? I want to see it.
[11:15] <darksoul_> hey all, i upgraded my wine, and now i have a problem using steam do to a 'compatility mode'
[11:16] <darksoul_> 816 users and not one can tell me whats wrong?..
[11:17] <grexk> darksoul_: try to reinstall steam also.
[11:17] <daunt> help .. none of my applications windows have a window title bar!
[11:17] <LMJ_Work> I have ugly troubles with "locales"     when i do "dpkg-reconfigure locales"   it never display a front UI to choose my needed locales     after mess around with locales localeconf or so, i have this error : http://pastebin.com/775528
[11:17] <LMJ_Work> i googled in the Ubuntu Dapper and google, i can't find any way to fix it
[11:18] <Not-Clever> Silly question time : Is it worth downloading the DVD Ubuntu over the normal CD ISO ?
[11:18] <daunt> anyone know why my windows don't have decoration?  is something not running which should be?
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Not-Clever, Not if you have a network connection
[11:18] <Pooh22> hi all, I noticed that the ipw-2.4-boot.fw file was not available for any kernel (in /lib/firmware), is that a know problem?
[11:19] <eXistenZ> Not-Clever, You can download everything that is in the DVD through your network connection, so if it available, no need.
[11:19] <Pooh22> it was easy to fix by downloading the firmware from ipw2200.sf.net, but I can imagine people being bitten by this
[11:19] <phatbyte> hi i debootstraped a ubuntu install i think i made all things in grub.. grub boots and it loads memtest86?! which step i forgot?
[11:19] <daunt> anyone know why window decoration wouldn't be working?
[11:19] <luke_> how can i get the latest version of linux?
[11:19] <Flannel> phatbyte: you forgot boot options - (menu.lst)
[11:19] <Not-Clever> eXistenZ: Yeah, thats what I thought.  Long time since I used a linux dist.  Just gonna download an ISO for the new lappy before it arrives.
[11:20] <Madpilot> luke_, Ubuntu will keep itself updated
[11:20] <grexk> LMj_*: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[11:20] <darksoul_> I tried reinsalling steam, it does not help.
[11:20] <Madpilot> luke_, and if you're still having issues installing Java: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:20] <Flannel> phatbyte: believe grub is auto-selecting memtest from the grub menu (it's default, as youhave no other options)
[11:20] <luke_> but i installed brezzy badger 5.10 how i get 6.6 or somehitng like that
[11:21] <Flannel> phatbyte: if you hit escape (? or some key) you'll be able to get to the grub menu, and edit them in place
[11:21] <Flannel> !tell luke_ about upgrade
[11:21] <phatbyte> Flannel thanks so i will check that
[11:21] <tweek> has anyone here gotten a D-Link DWL-520 Rev E1 to work with UBuntu Dapper ? ( This card requires firmare load to work)
[11:21] <Madpilot> luke_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[11:23] <lesshaste> anyone recommend a nice graphical app that uses gphoto2?
[11:23] <daunt> okay.. if i log out and use "Gnome Failsafe Session", my windows have decorations (windows title bar, scroll bar, window edges, etc) .. if i just use my normal gnome session, none of my windows have decorations - no title bar, no icons for min/maximize, etc.
[11:23] <daunt> is there something i can do to restore my default gnome session?
[11:24] <tweek> cant you select your session when you logi in
[11:24] <Oni-Dracula> anyone know what kind of impact I might see by dramatically changing my system without reinstalling ubuntu?
[11:24] <wildman> is there an easy way to determinate an XML file's encoding? please do not answer 'by looking at the encoding attribute, cuz I want the REAL file's encoding
[11:24] <daunt> tweek, i do that, but if i select 'normal gnome session', i get no window-decoration and the hotkeys don't work.
[11:25] <daunt> wildman, type 'file some-file.xml'
[11:25] <tweek> daunt, Yuo trying to get XGL working ?
[11:25] <daunt> tweek, was trying, but then it didn't work so i tried to back out of it, and now my window dressing isn't working ..
[11:25] <daunt> i just want to get on with work and will give up on XGL for now ..
[11:26] <daunt> i have some other nvidia problem that needs fixing too: every time i reboot i have to re-run the NVIDIA-package.run file to put the kernel module back in the same version.  but i can live with that.  i can't live without window-dressing though ..
[11:26] <otroean> Trying to connect to internet with dialup modem. what modem port and setting must I use?
[11:26] <phatbyte> Flannel now i did a update-grub .. rebooted and now it says file not found whats next?
[11:29] <andax> apt-get install linux-image-686 installed an SMP kernel for me however this is an up box, so i'm getting apic errors and all that stuff. Is there a kernel parameter (like nosmp) or something to disable smp?
[11:29] <internat> ok so i had to install v4l from mercurial stuff so i can get the drivers for my dvb card, but now that i have, ive lost sound, which i imagine is cause its now finding the output on the dvb card.. how do i make it go back to the other card?
[11:29] <feg> i got an annoying problem with thunderbird threshold.even if i change gnome threshold to max value, the smallest mouse movement will move my folders...
[11:29] <Flannel> phatbyte: Which file does it say is missing?
[11:30] <kraut> moin
[11:30] <phatbyte> Flannel hm Error 15: File not found thats all
[11:32] <Flannel> phatbyte: heh, grub manual doesn't specify anything more than that.  Um, I suppose you'll need to check to make sure your vmlinuz is in /boot (and your menu.lst, for that matter)
[11:33] <LMJ_Work> i think "dpkg-reconfigure -a" broke more my system then fixed it, i had so much questions, i guess i broke my whole config
[11:34] <directhex|work> i seem to have picked up a funny locale error. LC_ALL isn't being set properly - the message returned by "locale" is "locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory". anything involving dpkg returns a bunch of perl warnings, centering around LC_ALL being unset
[11:34] <chris__> Hello, Has anyone got any preferences as to recording programs? I previously used CoolEdit on Windows
[11:35] <Flannel> LMJ_Work: in theory, you can just do the same command, only this time set all the things to correct values ;)  next time don't do an -a, specify the packages you want to reconfigure
[11:35] <MalMen> hello
[11:35] <chris__> hi
[11:35] <MalMen> how can i have 2 X running in 2 diferent displays ?
[11:36] <MalMen> i am corrently running on xgl
[11:36] <MalMen> but i want run programs with out running on xgl
[11:36] <andax> MalMen: in short: you just can't.
[11:36] <MalMen> was talking to me to i run it on other display :s
[11:37] <directhex|work> MalMen, edit /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf, add a second secreen to the Servers section which uses Xorg rather than Xgl. depending on how you installed Xgl, that may be easy or hard
[11:37] <LMJ_Work> I have ugly troubles with "locales"     when i do "dpkg-reconfigure locales"   it never display a front UI to choose my needed locales like Debian one (?)     after mess around with locales localeconf or so, i have this error : http://pastebin.com/775528
[11:37] <andax> MalMen, be prepared for lockups and strange problems, it won't be reliable.
[11:37] <MalMen> i use it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:37] <LMJ_Work> dpkg-reconfigure -a seems not the good solution, i think my server in production feel not good now
[11:38] <phatbyte> Flannel the menu.lst ist in /boot/grub and a vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-server exists
[11:38] <MalMen> i alrealy made Xorg :2
[11:38] <Flannel> LMJ_Work: dpkg-recon -a does ALL the packages, so yeah, it's not a good idea
[11:38] <MalMen> but the computer breacks :
[11:38] <MalMen> :S
[11:38] <directhex|work> MalMen, what graphics card driver are you using?
[11:39] <MalMen> ati
[11:39] <chris__> Does anyone have any recommendations for recording software?
[11:39] <MalMen> radeon mobile 9700
[11:39] <andax> MalMen, you better go with a simple dual-head setup for multiple displays, if you want xgl then currently you can only have 1 display else it will break/crash etc.
[11:39] <directhex|work> MalMen, then no, it won';t work. don't expect good behaviour from the ATI drivers
[11:40] <MalMen> :S
[11:40] <luke_> thanks for all yur help peeps!!!!!!!!! im going cya
[11:40] <MalMen> i only want run counter-strike with out use xgl, becaus the game on xgl no work :S
[11:41] <directhex|work> MalMen, IME, you can't run multiple 3d-accelerated X servers on an ATI card
[11:41] <azcazandco> can I use gparted without damaging stuff on my main drive?
[11:41] <azcazandco> I want to create a data partition
[11:41] <andax> of course you can run multiple accelerated displays, aticonfig --initial=dual-head works fine for me (both screens are accelerated)
[11:41] <HeathenDan> i'll be reformatting soon. what do i need to backup?
[11:42] <MalMen> hmm
[11:42] <MalMen> tks
[11:42] <MalMen> i ill try get some support on #xgl
[11:42] <chris__> Does anyone use any recording software that they would recommend?
[11:42] <MalMen> he maybe can help me more
[11:42] <MalMen> tks anyway its a good help full :)
[11:42] <Flannel> HeathenDan: home folders, maybe stuff in /var if you put anything there (apache's web folders, etC)
[11:42] <directhex|work> the question isn't that nobody knows, it's that it can't be done. it's a driver limitation
[11:42] <Flannel> HeathenDan: that's really it.  Everything else you get from apt
[11:42] <Flannel> HeathenDan: oh, any complex configuration files you've tweaked
[11:43] <Flannel> HeathenDan: they'd be in /etc
[11:43] <directhex|work> none of this is helping me with my locale problem, of course
[11:43] <HeathenDan> is it ok to save and reuse /etc files?
[11:44] <HeathenDan> ok, doing final preparations for the reformat
[11:44] <otroean> Help with minicom... I trying to connect to internett with modem and using minicom. tried do read minicom man but don't understand how to connect...
[11:45] <azcazandco> can I use gparted on my active partition anyone?
[11:45] <HeathenDan> is there a way to list all installed non-default apps? i want to make a txt file of it
[11:45] <andax> HeathenDan, dpkg -l will list all packages installed
[11:45] <Flannel> HeathenDan: and you can do that again once you're reinstalled, and diff them
[11:45] <al0cunit> how to setup wireless connection...i have asus wlan card..is it supported by ubuntu
[11:46] <HeathenDan> can i > installed.txt that dpkg thing?
[11:46] <Flannel> HeathenDan: yep
[11:46] <andax> otroean, i guess pppconfig would be your friend when connecting with a dialup modem :)
[11:46] <HeathenDan> pretty nifty stuff.
[11:46] <HeathenDan> =)
[11:47] <HeathenDan> pretty nice. but it listed libraries too. oh well, i can figure them out anyway
[11:47] <andax> al0cunit, what is the exact model type (chipset) of your card?
[11:48] <HeathenDan> i assume the local settings are in the home folder already, as .hidden files
[11:48] <al0cunit> andax: asus WL-138G V2 802.11g
[11:48] <com2> trying to install vlc but cannot wht am i missing
[11:48] <directhex|work> HeathenDan, what you want is "dpkg --get-selections"
[11:49] <HeathenDan> i see
[11:49] <directhex|work> HeathenDan, which can be combined with --get-selections and dselect-install
[11:50] <FRET> good morning
[11:51] <andax> al0cunit, it is supported and will work
[11:51] <al0cunit> andax:...i have installed ubuntu once and couldn't setup connectio
[11:53] <Jimmey__> How do I connect to an NFS share
[11:53] <andax> al0cunit, dapper has the required driver for that card, all I can tell you it should work. If it doesn't, then you may want to install the "ndiswrapper" package and use the windows xp drivers for the card.
[11:54] <andax> Jimmey__, mount ipaddress:/shared/folder /mnt/here
[11:54] <al0cunit> andax: thnx for the information ...i will try that..
[11:54] <Jimmey__> andax, do I need to open some ports with firestarter?
[11:55] <andax> Jimmey__, the computer running the nfs server should be accessible on ports 2049 tcp/udp
[11:55] <Crembo> need some help with azureus... I'd set up port forwarding on my router for UDP and specified the port in the config but azureus still says the distributed tracker is firewalled, how do I check that the UDP port I opened works?
[11:57] <Jimmey__> andax, mount to NFS server '192.168.0.2' failed.
[12:00] <andax> Crembo, you can test your firewall configuration with netcat. On the box running azuerus type this:  netcat -nlup 6882   (this will open a listening udp socket on port 6882) . Then from the other side of the router/firewall type "netcat -u ipaddress 6882"  if the connection works you should see what you type on the other side
[12:01] <reazon> hmm
[12:01] <Qwerty> hmm
[12:01] <Crembo> andax: the other side past my router would be "the internet", and sadly I don't have a box there...
[12:02] <andax> Crembo, if you have no access to an outside box i can test it for you just tell me an ip address an port to connect
[12:03] <ardchoille> Which is the proper way to start/stop apache, /usr/sbin/apache2ctl stop|start or /etc/init.d/apache2 stop|start ?
[12:03] <andax> ardchoille, just apachectl2 stop / start :)
[12:04] <lupine_85> best to use the initscripts
[12:04] <lupine_85> either will work though ;)
[12:04] <ardchoille> Thanks andax , lupine_85
[12:06] <andax> apt-get install linux-image-686 installed an SMP kernel for me however this is an up box, so i'm getting apic errors and all that stuff. Is there a kernel parameter (like nosmp) or something to disable smp?
[12:07] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anybody know any good screen recording software?
[12:08] <Qwerty> Is there a Voice Recog Software for Linux ?
[12:08] <Qwerty> Ubuntu specifically
[12:09] <Schalken> how do i move all files in directory X to directory Y using the terminal?
[12:09] <lupine_85> Schalken: mv -R * <dest-dir-name>
[12:09] <FRET> Schalken, man cp
[12:09] <FRET> man mv
[12:10] <ardchoille> Schalken: mv /dirx/* /dir/y
[12:10] <andax> Qwerty, ibm had a software called 'viavoice' but it's commercial, don't know about others. now you know what to do :)
[12:10] <pmj> my X crashes. The screen goes half black, half colored lines and after a few seconds I'm back at the login screen. It seems related to drawing graphics, crashes have occurred when switching between desktops and loading a website. Other than that, it's random. I last anywhere between 1 to 10 minutes. Is there any logs I can check that would give me a clue as to what is wrong?
[12:11] <Qwerty> Viavoice for linux too ? I have a copy of Viavoice 98 for windows andax
[12:11] <andax> Qwerty, it is or it was available for linux too
[12:11] <ardchoille> pmj: tyr looking at ~/.xsession-errors
[12:11] <Qwerty> ok I shall google it up thanks ^_^
[12:12] <DoctorMO> hey al
[12:12] <DoctorMO> l
[12:12] <DoctorMO> how can I install further languages into ubuntu?
[12:12] <pmj> ardchoille: just a few warnings
[12:12] <det> In Theory, should I be able to share a /boot partition between seperate AMD64 and i386 Dapper installations?
[12:12] <ardchoille> pmj: You using XGL or have probs with your video drivers?
[12:13] <Schalken> thanks a bunch guys!
[12:13] <pmj> no. I have an uptime of 4 days now and it started just half an hour ago
[12:13] <pmj> previously I had it up for 48 days without a single crash
[12:13] <ardchoille> pmj: When's the last time you updated?
[12:13] <pmj> pretty long ago. Apt/dpkg is broken so I'm unable to update
[12:14] <pmj> but, it has run fine for about 2 weeks without any updates, and 4 days uptime now without any updates
[12:15] <pmj> and I'm not using xgl
[12:15] <m_0_r_0_n> Is it possible to reinitialize the sound server without rebooting linux? All of a sudden I cant listen to an internet mp3 stream any more.
[12:16] <ardchoille> pmj: If it were me, the first thing I'd do is fix apt/dpkg. If that is not possible, I'd save all personal files and re-install. I wouldn't even bother using a system that I couldn't update.. but that's me.
[12:16] <pmj> I'm just going to use it for another 2-3 weeks until I have my new hardware
[12:17] <andax> m_0_r_0_n, /etc/init.d/alsa utils
[12:18] <m_0_r_0_n> bash: /etc/init.d/alsa: No such file or directory
[12:18] <andax> m_0_r_0_n, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils sorry
[12:18] <pmj> so, no other log files or anything that might contain any useful information?
[12:19] <m_0_r_0_n> still no sound after restarting alsa
[12:20] <ardchoille> pmj: You might have a look at /var/log/syslog , /var/log/messages , and some of the others in there
[12:22] <_w^x_> I need a media server to stream audio video.
[12:22] <ygetartson> hi
[12:22] <ygetartson> can you help me with printer config?
[12:22] <m_0_r_0_n> _w^x_, windows is a good choice
[12:23] <_w^x_> fuck that!
[12:23] <ygetartson> i want to add the printer by network to the second computer
[12:23] <m_0_r_0_n> huh?
[12:23] <Kameli> Hi, when i try to find the newest kernel source from synaptic, it shows only very old one? :(
[12:23] <ygetartson> which is called tp0
[12:23] <_w^x_> windows sucks!
[12:23] <ygetartson> what is the address the other computer has to use to reach it?
[12:24] <al0cunit> andax
[12:24] <m_0_r_0_n> _w^x_, but lindows sucks more than windows ;-)
[12:24] <brotakul> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:24] <embassy> hi can someone please help me setup wine
[12:25] <ygetartson> there is so much traffic in here that it gets difficult to get help
[12:25] <embassy> anyone know how to install wine under ubuntu
[12:25] <HeathenDan> embassy, what will you use wine for?
[12:25] <brotakul> embassy: winecfg in terminal. set sound to alsa and emulation to windows xp
[12:25] <embassy> running half life 2
[12:25] <Kameli> Hi, when i try to find the newest kernel source from synaptic, it shows only very old one? :(
[12:25] <Kameli> where i can get the newest?
[12:25] <lupine_85> embassy: add the wine repo to your sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install wine
[12:26] <Kameli> hi lupine_85
[12:26] <Kameli> tell to me ='(
[12:26] <embassy> i try to edit sources list but i have not the permmisions
[12:26] <HeathenDan> ok, go to winehq and use their dapper repository. add it to your sources.list
[12:26] <lupine_85> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[12:26] <lupine_85> you have to be root
[12:26] <HeathenDan> you don't have permission?
[12:26] <lupine_85> i.e. prefix your commands with sudo
[12:26] <HeathenDan> then you can't do squat
[12:26] <ferzr> hello, how can I instal an rpm package in ubuntu
[12:26] <jaym> anyone know if there is a modified Network-Manager for Dapper...
[12:27] <embassy> i have added repositary and installed using the add remove programs thing but it dose not show in "start menu"
[12:27] <lupine_85> ferzr: use alien to convert the program
[12:27] <ardchoille> ferzr: That is a very bad idea.
[12:27] <HeathenDan> ferzr, use alien to convert it to deb
[12:27] <jaym> i can only get this to connect to my home network no other ones
[12:27] <brotakul> ferzr: install alien. sudo apt-get install alien
[12:27] <ardchoille> !alien
[12:27] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:27] <HeathenDan> and use gdebi/dpkg to install it
[12:27] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Please don't recommend something that is dangerous
[12:27] <lupine_85> ardchoille: depends on the scripts the package uses
[12:27] <lupine_85> most applications will be fine
[12:27] <ardchoille> lupine_85: Please don't recommend something that is dangerous
[12:27] <ygetartson> !cups
[12:27] <brotakul> ferzr: with alien you can convert rpm packages into .deb
[12:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:27] <embassy> arg im lost here guys any help for a linux noob would be great
[12:28] <lupine_85> things related to the kernel, etc. will *not* be a good idea ;)
[12:28] <embassy> ive tryed every how to out ther ei think
[12:28] <ferzr> I have read that is a litel bit dangerous
[12:28] <ferzr> por the new users
[12:28] <lupine_85> and I've done it on a regular basis ;)
[12:28] <jaym> anyone
[12:28] <ferzr> and I am new user
[12:28] <jaym> anyone know if there is a modified Network-Manager for Dapper...
[12:28] <jaym> i can only get this to connect to my home network no other ones
[12:28] <ardchoille> !worksforme > lupine_85
[12:28] <embassy> anyone ?
[12:28] <brotakul> ferzr: install alien. sudo apt-get install alien, alien converts .rpm into .deb
[12:28] <lupine_85> embassy: "sudo echo "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:28] <HeathenDan> do you have root permission?
[12:28] <lupine_85> then run "sudo apt-get update"
[12:29] <HeathenDan> if not, we can't help you
[12:29] <lupine_85> then run "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:29] <brotakul> embassy: wine does not appear as an application
[12:29] <ferzr> but it is no possible tu install it using the rpm aplication?
[12:29] <brotakul> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:29] <Crembo> how do I change file type associations (so if I double-click on a file ending with .xyz, it will open it with program abc)?
[12:29] <HeathenDan> in nautilus, right click the file and change the default application
[12:29] <ardchoille> Crembo: right-click the file, choose "Properties", then go to the open with tab
[12:30] <lupine_85> ardchoille: I'll rephrase that. It works well for most people, unless you try to install something system-essential
[12:30] <al0cunit> how to install ndiswrapper...
[12:30] <jaym> anyone know if there is a modified Network-Manager for Dapper...
[12:30] <kraut> al0cunit: search in the wiki
[12:30] <embassy> how to i enable root permmisions i am the main user
[12:30] <lupine_85> ferzr: you can't use rpm directly
[12:30] <ardchoille> lupine_85: When the folks who run this channel say it's dangerous, then it's best to not recommend it.. even if it has worked a million times for you
[12:31] <ferzr> well I want to install the server for the squeezebox
[12:31] <feesh> embassy, sudo passwd, enter a root password, then su :D
[12:31] <HeathenDan> embassy, if you can sudo, then you can install wine
[12:31] <lupine_85> since you don't have an rpm database, etc., and the filesystem structure is different
[12:31] <ferzr> does anybody have it?
[12:31] <lupine_85> !alien > lupine
[12:31] <embassy> okay i have installe dit how do i open a windows file ?
[12:31] <HeathenDan> embassy, do what lupine_85 says
[12:32] <lupine_85> haven't seen any chanops say it's dangerous
[12:32] <ferzr> ok
[12:32] <ardchoille> !alien
[12:32] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[12:32] <HeathenDan> embassy, type winecfg on the terminal
[12:32] <ardchoille> See the last four words?
[12:32] <ferzr> but why comes rpm with ubuntu if I can not use it
[12:33] <feesh> ubuntu uses .deb more than it does rpm right?
[12:33] <lupine_85> ubuntu only uses .deb
[12:33] <ardchoille> feesh: Ubuntu does not use rom at all
[12:33] <HeathenDan> it uses deb exclusively
[12:33] <m_0_r_0_n> I am afraid of restarting linux because of the latest updates of xorg... Is the xorg bug already fixed?
[12:33] <ferzr> ok
[12:33] <nils_> he all.. just wondering what happened to linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6 in dapper ?
[12:33] <HeathenDan> have you typed winecfg yet?
[12:33] <feesh> m_0_r_0_n, I feel you man
[12:33] <HeathenDan> the xorg bug is fixed with 10.4
[12:33] <ardchoille> m_0_r_0_n: yes, the latest xorg update is fixed
[12:33] <HeathenDan> i have restarted a few times since
[12:33] <lupine_85> ardchoille: ho hum :). that didn't show up for me
[12:34] <ferzr> I can get also the source in perl. Could do it this way?
[12:34] <embassy> thank you heatherdan
[12:34] <feesh> every time I restart, I cant use glx till I get out of X, recompile the nvidia drivers, then nvidia-glx-config enable :(
[12:34] <jaym> anyway to adjust the preferred networks for network-manager in dapper
[12:34] <feesh> apt-get update, will get the latest jive right?
[12:34] <lupine_85> feesh: that's always been caused by a conflicting kernel module, for me
[12:34] <HeathenDan> if the repositories are up-to-date, yes
[12:34] <lupine_85> usually an older version of the nvidia one
[12:34] <ardchoille> feesh: no, apt-get update will update your sources. apt-get upgrade will get the latest upgrades
[12:35] <bro__> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:35] <flodine> can someone tell me how to change compiz theme in xgl?
[12:35] <HeathenDan> i don't use kde :p
[12:35] <embassy> yeh i have typed winecfg and have choose a file to emulate
[12:35] <embassy> its source i get stcuk on 27% and it crashes
[12:35] <lupine_85> you can see if that's the case by checking your Xorg log file for error messages referring to a module version mismatch (grep for nvidia might do the trick)
[12:35] <feesh> lupine_85, I've tried to remove every single kernel module I don't use
[12:35] <HeathenDan> ok, then go to audio and check alsa
[12:35] <feesh> lsmod tells me I suck though
[12:36] <HeathenDan> if winecfg crashes, you may have to edit some stuff
[12:36] <lupine_85> check the logfile
[12:36] <embassy> what do you mean by alias
[12:36] <HeathenDan> alsa
[12:36] <embassy> ahh
[12:36] <embassy> sorry
[12:36] <HeathenDan> np\
[12:36] <embassy> its checked now
[12:36] <Kameli> then you must remove wineasrts.drv.so
[12:36] <HeathenDan> ok
[12:36] <Kameli> i got it work then
[12:37] <lupine_85>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:37] <feesh> lupine_85, major log file = Xorg.0.log right
[12:37] <Kameli> winearts*
[12:37] <lupine_85> yes
[12:37] <feesh> nothing about it being wrong :(
[12:37] <HeathenDan> yeah, you can delete that winearts crud
[12:37] <bro__> hi. is there any way to disable the sistem popup notifications in kde? i mean those from amarok, meniu and others... or maybe at least resize them!
[12:37] <lupine_85> can you p[astebin it?
[12:37] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> how do i switch to a different drive in the terminal?
[12:37] <HeathenDan> btw, have you checked winehq if half life 2 is platinum in ubuntu?
[12:37] <feesh> lupine_85, me?
[12:37] <lupine_85> yes
[12:37] <FRET> bro__, those from amarok can be disabled in amarok
[12:37] <feesh> its, just 3 lines, LoadModule: "nvidia"
[12:37] <lupine_85> isolatedvirus: you don't. you cd to it's mountpoint
[12:38] <feesh> Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
[12:38] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> can you give an example?
[12:38] <feesh> then "Module nvidia: vendor="N..Corp"
[12:38] <feesh> all with (II)
[12:38] <embassy> where will it say heatherdan
[12:38] <ferzr> what is better trying with alien or with the sources in perl
[12:38] <Kameli> feesh: how u make that || 111
[12:38] <HeathenDan> ok, go to winehq.com
[12:38] <HeathenDan> lemme start my opera browser, lol
[12:39] <lupine_85> when you run startx, does that give you any more errors?
[12:39] <dune> hola
[12:39] <feesh> hmm, when grepped for (WW), the major one I see, is "Ignoring request to load module GLCore"
[12:39] <embassy> thanks for helping me out here, was beginging to think i would have to go back to iwndows
[12:39] <ferzr> hola dune
[12:39] <HeathenDan> i still dual boot with windows :p
[12:40] <lupine_85> ok, can you pastebin the entire file?
[12:40] <HeathenDan> microsoft games have a knack of not working with wine
[12:40] <feesh> lupine_85, sure man
[12:40] <embassy> yeah thats what i have just setup but im very new to linux
[12:40] <ferzr> bro__ are you?
[12:40] <lupine_85> HeathenDan: Age of Empires works like  charm :)
[12:40] <embassy> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[12:40] <embassy> heatherdan can you look at 4.1
[12:40] <HeathenDan> really? i haven't really tried that one. i was thinking of rise of nations
[12:40] <feesh> lupine_85, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2S7gOQ31.html
[12:40] <embassy> thats what i think i have to do
[12:41] <feesh> don't ask me why I chose C.. it was a reflex action
[12:41] <HeathenDan> but AoE is good. i may have to look into that
[12:41] <lupine_85> ah; I haven't tried rise of nations
[12:41] <bro__> ferzr: did u install alien?
[12:41] <lupine_85> rise of rome and age of kings
[12:41] <HeathenDan> it's a cross between civ and warcraft
[12:41] <HeathenDan> it's damn fun
[12:41] <dr|zed> graphics-wise: http://xaraxtreme.org
[12:41] <jaym> anyway to adjust the preferred networks for network-manager in dapper
[12:41] <dr|zed> free vector app for linux.
[12:42] <ferzr> bro__: no, I have not tryed it
[12:42] <feesh> dr|zed, I got that yesterday, I've only had a lil play, and it rocks :D
[12:42] <embassy> arg thats annoying it gets to 27% then crashes
[12:42] <dr|zed> quite possibly the best thing to happen to linux for a long time.
[12:42] <feesh> embassy, if your installing a windows app using wine, don't always expect it to work
[12:42] <dr|zed> feesh: :) tell your friends..
[12:42] <feesh> embassy, at the end of the day, a windows program is meant to run on windows
[12:42] <feesh> dr|zed, Ive gone past that
[12:43] <embassy> i have read many articles saying that source/half life 2 will run under wine
[12:43] <feesh> I'm telling people I don't even know
[12:43] <feesh> the guys in #winapi didn't seem so chuffed ...
[12:43] <feesh> embassy, yeah, my bro got it working using cedega (directX emulation api also built into wine)
[12:43] <feesh> dr|zed, I remember when some fan boy came onto
[12:44] <lupine_85>  feesh: hmm. can't see anything that should cause it to die
[12:44] <lupine_85> Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
[12:44] <ferzr> does anybody know if it is difficult to install an aplication from the source code in perl?
[12:44] <feesh> ##linux asking lots of questions why linux sucked more than windows, and one of his poitns was "linux sucks so bad it doesn't have any service packs"
[12:44] <synap> Heya howla, my X is broken.
[12:44] <lupine_85> perhaps. Did you comment out the dri sections of xorg.conf ?
[12:44] <feesh> lupine_85, yeah...
[12:44] <DesertEagle7> feesh, lol
[12:44] <synap> since the last dist upgrade
[12:44] <Jimmey__> I'm trying to mount an NFS share, but can't open a connection. When I try with telnet, I get "connection refused", and nmap says that 2049 is closed. On the target machine, 2049 has been opened with the help of firestarter - What's the problem?
[12:45] <FRET> synap, congratulations :-)
[12:45] <lupine_85> ferzr: perl only comes as source code... it's an interpreted language
[12:45] <synap> fret yeah I expected it to be fixed by now, but apparantly it was not
[12:45] <FRET> synap, you did the update?
[12:45] <lupine_85> feesh: it looks like it's not what I thought it was, then. Whcih means I'm as much in the dark as you :(
[12:45] <embassy> anyone know what this means Just type wine msiexec /i /path/to/HL2/steam.msi and Half-Life 2 will be installed.
[12:45] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> how do i switch to a drive in the terminal?
[12:45] <feesh> bummer :(
[12:45] <embassy> sorry for my total noobisum
[12:45] <synap> fret yeah
[12:46] <feesh> I'll pop dri on, even though I shouldn't need it
[12:46] <FRET> synap, so what's your actual version?
[12:46] <ferzr> OK Lupine
[12:46] <feesh> embassy, everyone starts somewhere
[12:46] <lupine_85>  ISOLATEDViRuS_: I said before - you don't
[12:46] <lupine_85> you cd to it's mountpoint
[12:46] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> lupine_85: then how the heck do i switch to my usb drive!?
[12:46] <lupine_85> mount it
[12:46] <synap> 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[12:46] <lupine_85> then cd to it's location
[12:46] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ;_; how
[12:46] <ferzr> Lupine: what do you advice me try the alien ore use de perl
[12:47] <Guf0> Hi, I'd like to install Ubuntu server using the cds shipped me by Canonical, is possibile?! I don't want use the live but just install the basic server installation.
[12:47] <embassy> fresh any idea ?
[12:47] <lupine_85> it's probably an sdXX device
[12:47] <feesh> hmm, just a side note, dri loads by default which I most definatly did not intend
[12:47] <lupine_85> ferzr: I've no idea, since I don't know the package
[12:47] <embassy> anyone ?
[12:47] <feesh> embassy, please tell me you didn't call my fresh :|
[12:47] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i can open the drive in the GUI, i just need to do some stuff with the terminal
[12:47] <embassy> lol i did sorry
[12:47] <embassy> im tired
[12:48] <embassy> Just type wine msiexec /i /path/to/HL2/steam.msi and Half-Life 2 will be installed. ?
[12:48] <feesh> embassy, yeah. it means, instead of doing setup.exe
[12:48] <ferzr> Ok
[12:48] <ferzr> thanks Lupine
[12:48] <lupine_85> if you mount it in the GUI, you just need to know where it's mounted. then you can 'cd /path/to/mountpoint'
[12:48] <feesh> embassy, you HL2 in your cd drive?
[12:48] <embassy> no i was going to install over steam
[12:48] <feesh> embassy, oh... I don't play hl so I dunno how this jive goes down
[12:48] <embassy> over the web based client
[12:48] <embassy> it download the files for you
[12:49] <synap> ooh and the xserver-xorg-core is 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[12:49] <HeathenDan> pretty neat
[12:49] <feesh> well, basically, just like it says, find the steam.msi
[12:49] <embassy> feesh look at this for me :)
[12:49] <embassy> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[12:49] <feesh> then use msiexec /i to install it
[12:49] <HeathenDan> but i don't like fps, so i prolly won't be trying hl anytime soon
[12:49] <embassy> im on section 4.1
[12:49] <synap> it says no screens found
[12:49] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> lupine_85: i can access the files and everything fine via the gui... its the terminal im having issues with, how do i find out where the system mounted it?
[12:49] <lupine_85> no idea, sorry. I don't use gnome.
[12:50] <lupine_85> possibly somewhere in /media
[12:50] <FRET> synap, have tried reconfiguring?
[12:50] <synap> how ?
[12:50] <KenSentMe> synap: have you updated your system?
[12:50] <synap> KenSentMe yeah
[12:50] <feesh> embassy, have you actually got 4.1 done?
[12:50] <dr|zed> if you got ay doubts about giving xara a spin. http://www.xaraxtreme.org/screenshots.html (jscript)
[12:50] <embassy> no im up to the part where it crashes at 27%
[12:50] <feesh> oh I get it, never mind
[12:50] <KenSentMe> !xorgbug > synap
[12:50] <KenSentMe> synap: maybe that helps
[12:51] <lupine_85>  Isolatedvirus: mount -l will give a list of all mountpoints in your system
[12:52] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> how do i change the permissions on a directory?
[12:52] <synap> chmod
[12:52] <lesshaste> I have a strange problem with gphoto2 which is that it works once and then fails the second time. I have to unplug the usb cable and plug it back in to get it to work again
[12:52] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, chmod, can also be done recursivly
[12:52] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[12:53] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> k thx
[12:54] <synap> yay X works again
[12:54] <synap> unbelievable tho, that this happens in a stable distro
[12:54] <KenSentMe> synap: what did you do?
[12:54] <jaMaLz> how do i setup my ubuntu apt sources
[12:55] <FRET> synap, congratulations again :-P
[12:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i need to change the attributes of the directory and all files and folders inside, i know how to start the command but im not sure what options and modes i need... anyone know
[12:55] <synap> kensentme reinstalled xorg-core
[12:55] <feesh> synap, it keeps you on your toes ;)
[12:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i want to put read, write and execute on it
[12:55] <synap> but I think the real end user could not do this
[12:55] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, man chmod
[12:55] <synap> feesh no, it's just borked
[12:55] <feesh> synap, why what happened in your instance? I'm having some troubles but it might be another school of feesh
[12:55] <dr|zed> chmode
[12:55] <dr|zed> chmod
[12:55] <feesh> *bud dum chhh* :(
[12:56] <synap> I thought, yay let's upgrade this great distro
[12:56] <lupine_85> manpages are the answer to everything ;)
[12:56] <synap> and after a reboot I found myself without X windows
[12:56] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> uh... whats recursive mean?
[12:56] <feesh> synap, nvidia user?
[12:56] <synap> no
[12:56] <feesh> ISOLATEDViRuS_, something that calls itself
[12:56] <synap> anyway
[12:56] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, ask wikipedia
[12:56] <synap> I am eof
[12:56] <synap> cheers and thanks
[12:56] <Leighaquarius> sorry it is a bit off the subject but does anyone know if there is any support for Airport Extreme on a Mac in ubuntu Dapper
[12:56] <lupine_85> means it does the directory, all the filwa in it, and all it's subdirectories etc.
[12:57] <feesh> ISOLATEDViRuS_, that to
[12:57] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> thankyou very much lupine_85
[12:57] <lupine_85> chmod -R a+rwx * would do what you seem to want...
[12:57] <lupine_85> but I wouldn't recommend it
[12:57] <Kameli> lupine_85: i just installed linux-image-k7 and my x wont start =(
[12:57] <Kameli> i also reinstalled my nvidia-glx and in xorg theres nvidia
[12:57] <FRET> lupine_85, the * is only a good idea, if he's i nthat directory
[12:57] <lupine_85> lol, true ;)
[12:57] <jaMaLz> how do i setup my ubuntu apt sources ?
[12:58] <debuntu> nah, let him chmod 777 *
[12:58] <lupine_85> same thing...
[12:58] <debuntu> it's fun
[12:58] <phatbyte> is there a ubuntu live cd to download anywhere? sorry for this question but i cant find one
[12:58] <debuntu> lupine_85, yeah, same stupidity
[12:58] <lupine_85> when he tries to edit a textfile, it will be fun ;)
[12:58] <FRET>  chmod 777 is kind of windows-philosophy
[12:58] <debuntu> FRET, um, excuse me?
[12:58] <jaMaLz> i wanna install webmin to my ubuntu server how to do that when i do apt-cache search webmin , it gives me nothing
[12:58] <debuntu> it's kind of a unix thing .. symbolics like "a+rwx" are a windows thing
[12:59] <feesh> brb, gonna play russian roulette with the X server heh
[12:59] <lupine_85> Kameli: revert to your previous kernel?
[12:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> chmod -R a+rwx * <-- * being the directory?
[12:59] <FRET> debuntu, the idea itself is stoopid. but it was not your idea...
[12:59] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, that is a VERY bad idea. Why do you want that?
[12:59] <lupine_85> ISOLATEDViRuS_: Do you really need everything in there to be executable?
[12:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> its not a bad idea, its a GOOD idea
[01:00] <lupine_85> no, it's not ;)
[01:00] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> the drive only has MP3's on it
[01:00] <lupine_85> then they don't need to be executable or writeable
[01:00] <debuntu> FRET, ah I only got what you were saying then .. heh i thought you meant that not using the symbolics was a windows thing ... you meant leaving everything wide open to every user is a windows thing :)
[01:00] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> and right now for some reason, it wont let me do it.
[01:00] <debuntu> agreed
[01:00] <FRET> debuntu, right :-)
[01:00] <technician> i have enabled this option '--enable-linux-netfilter' but still the options are not there for transparent proxy i am installing 2.6 stable and if i write in the squid.conf file it says unrecognized line .....
[01:00] <manopulus> debootstrap working well, but after chroot to new environment i have error for packages:
[01:01] <technician>  i am compiling squid from source
[01:01] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, even then it's a bad idea. and you need to be root for that I guess. Unless the drive is mounted, then you have to do that with mount-options
[01:01] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, so you only need read access anyway
[01:01] <Jimmey__> Are ATI cards something to be avoided?
[01:01] <lupine_85> Jimmey: less hassle and more stable with nvidia
[01:02] <lassegs> hi. Ive got a 3d acceleration problem? can anyone help me? http://pastebin.ca/148778
[01:03] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> damned it
[01:03] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> chmod: changing permissions of `usbdisk': Read-only file system
[01:03] <void^> !ntfs
[01:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:03] <debuntu> lol
[01:03] <jaym> is there an updated version of network manager for dapper
[01:03] <dr|zed> maybe you have a lock on your usb device.. software or hardware..
[01:03] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> isolatedvirus@ubuntuvirus:/media$ sudo chmod a+rwx usbdisk
[01:03] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> chmod: changing permissions of `usbdisk': Read-only file system
[01:03] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, that's what debuntu said before....you only NEED read-access
[01:04] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, do a chmod 444 if you feel the need for everyone to read
[01:04] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> fret, the disk has folders on it i want to delete, and it wont let me because its 'read only' and i cant change the permissions.
[01:04] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> what's chmod 444 do?
[01:04] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, change the permissions with mount-options.
[01:04] <FRET> man mount
[01:04] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, let's everyone read ... but listen to FRET
[01:04] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, read manpages or some basic linux book
[01:05] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ok, thanks for the direction.
[01:05] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, the filesystem is FAT32, I take it?
[01:05] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i believe so.
[01:05] <cwillu> I've got a folder in my menu that I'm trying to delete, but Alacarte won't let me delete it (the option is greyed out).  How do I get rid of it?
[01:05] <jaMaLz> i wanna install webmin to my ubuntu server how to do that when i do apt-cache search webmin , it gives me nothing
[01:05] <lupine_85> oh, well in that case it doesn't have permissions...
[01:05] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, and how did you mount it?
[01:06] <Draicone> Can someone help me install bzflag for ubuntu? I'm on 6.0.6LTS
[01:06] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ok this is what i did
[01:06] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i took the usb cable
[01:06] <dodgyville> Is edgy currently usable?
[01:06] <debuntu> and plugged it in?
[01:07] <lupine_85> stick it in youur fstab with user option
[01:07] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> stared at it for about 5 seconds, looked at my pc, stared at that for 5 seconds, and plugged it in. Linux was like "Hot shit virus, you just got a new USB HDD?! awesome, let me give you ACCESS TO IT!!!"
[01:07] <e-type> Draicone: synaptic/aptitud/apt-get don't work?
[01:07] <lupine_85> dodgyville: not reallly
[01:07] <dodgyville> Draicone: Go to Syetms->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[01:07] <jaMaLz> can any one hear me ?
[01:07] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, ok, it would be handy to see your /etc/mtab
[01:07] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, you know pastebin?
[01:07] <dodgyville> jaMaLz: Yeah
[01:07] <debuntu> !pastebin
[01:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:07] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> afraid not.
[01:07] <jaMaLz> i wanna install webmin to my ubuntu server how to do that when i do apt-cache search webmin , it gives me nothing.
[01:08] <debuntu> ^^
[01:08] <jaMaLz> and its too slow
[01:08] <debuntu> jaMaLz, then configure manually
[01:08] <dodgyville> Draicone: In the top right window there is a list of packages, bzflag should be available in it.
[01:08] <debuntu> way fast and gives you everything
[01:08] <Draicone> e-type: I am a total Ubuntu n00b.
[01:08] <jaMaLz> debuntu i don;t know where to find the source list ?
[01:08] <Draicone> dodgyville: which top right window?
[01:09] <debuntu> jaMaLz, nah sorry, I see this question a bit, so ppl here will know
[01:09] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> directory ect/mtab doesnt exist.
[01:09] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, did you even mount the usb drive?
[01:09] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS_, spelling counts - etc, not ect
[01:09] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> its in the media folder....
[01:09] <stefg> !webmin
[01:09] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:09] <jaMaLz> !squid
[01:09] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB
[01:09] <technician> ubotu then what is supported ?
[01:10] <jaMaLz> what about squid
[01:10] <jaMaLz> how to get it
[01:10] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, so it was mounted automatically, and you cannot delete any folders?
[01:10] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> FRET: true story.
[01:10] <phatbyte> does someone know the root password of gnoppix?
[01:10] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, how did you try to delete something?
[01:10] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> and theres an incriminating folder called NPROTECT that has a cache of deleted files on there... <_<
[01:11] <Paddy_EIRE> when i right click the desktop or inside a folder and choose 'Create Document' it says empty file and no templates installed??....where do i get these templates
[01:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i clicked, and the option "Delete" wasnt selectable.
[01:11] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, well if you don't have an /etc/mtab you are in more trouble than you think
[01:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> the drive itself is only readable.
[01:11] <technician> ubotu, what should be used for administration ?
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what should be used for administration ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> debuntu, the file mounted in /media/usbdisk
[01:11] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, since when are you using linux, and have you read book on it?
[01:11] <stefg> !lamp
[01:11] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:12] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, well unmount it "umount /media/usbdisk"
[01:12] <Madpilot> technician, ubotu is a bot
[01:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> since 3-4 days ago... i dunno... i havent slept...
[01:12] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, then mount again "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdisk"
[01:12] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell technician about yourself
[01:12] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, assuming sda1 is your usb .. might be sda2 etc
[01:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> umount: /media/usbdisk is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[01:12] <FRET> debuntu, /dev/sda1 for an usb-disk?
[01:12] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, well at least we are getting somewhere
[01:13] <technician> thanks Madpilot
[01:13] <lesshaste> I have a strange problem with gphoto2 which is that it works once and then fails the second time. I have to unplug the usb cable and plug it back in to get it to work again
[01:13] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[01:13] <jaMaLz> stefg well how to update my source.list ?
[01:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i can access it fine via the GUI
[01:13] <debuntu> FRET, yeah, they take the scsi device, no
[01:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> im just trying to change the disk permissions
[01:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i can even go into it via the terminal, i just cant delete stuffs.
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> when i right click the desktop or inside a folder and choose 'Create Document' it says empty file and no templates installed??....anyone know where to get these templates
[01:13] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, you can delete folders with nautilus ("the gui")?
[01:13] <stefg> jaMaLz: Do have a particular reason to want that?
[01:14] <Madpilot> night all
[01:14] <FRET> debuntu, dont know... maybe lsusb?
[01:14] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, well dude, it's hard to help you then. You have to look at 'mount', see if it's mounted; from there either umount and mount again, or mount it
[01:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> if its on the usbdisk, i cant do anything. if its not, i can do anything i want.
[01:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> its mounted
[01:14] <debuntu> FRET, it's sdx
[01:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> mount -l
[01:14] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> oops... this isnt the terminal.. <_<
[01:14] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, then you should be able to unmount it
[01:14] <jaMaLz> !apt
[01:15] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=106,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:15] <cwillu> I've got a folder in my menu's that I'm trying to delete, but alacarte won't let me (option is greyed out).  Can anyone enlighten me?
[01:15] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, ok! we got there. NTFS partition, not FAT32
[01:15] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, you can't change perms on an NTFS partition
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> my bad... i havent slept in 4 days
[01:15] <lupine_85> ntfs is read only
[01:15] <stefg> jaMaLz: what about telling us what you want to achieve, would make it easier to help you
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> someone is about to be stabbed.
[01:16] <lupine_85> bill gates?
[01:16] <debuntu> lupine_85, even if you use NTFS-3 with r/w, you still can't change perms
[01:16] <jaMaLz> stefg i wanna apt-get install squid
[01:16] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ugh
[01:16] <cwillu> ISOLATEDViRuS_: what are you trying to do?
[01:16] <stefg> !info squid
[01:16] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.12-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2108 kB
[01:16] <lupine_85> windows has permissions now?
[01:16] <stefg> jaMaLz: you need to enable the universe repo
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !templates
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about templates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <lupine_85> it's obviously getting ideas above it's station...
[01:16] <stefg> !repo
[01:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:16] <stefg> !repos
[01:16] <jaMaLz> stefg its too slow
[01:17] <jaMaLz> !easysource
[01:17] <due> ipw2200 + kill switch = death.
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> my usbdisk wont let me change perms so i can delete a folder because it has incriminating evidence of porn.
[01:17] <cwillu> lupine_85: like it or not, ntfs has a much more sophisticated perms system than conventional unix perms
[01:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> and i have to have this thing mapped on the network in like, 2 hrs.
[01:17] <cwillu> ISOLATEDViRuS_: anthing else you need on it?
[01:17] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, so, either try changing them in windows, or dump the data off and reformat FAT32
[01:17] <due> is there any specific solution to the whole radio kill switch issue for dell laptops?
[01:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i have mp3's and JPEGs on it.
[01:17] <due> like... being able to turn it on? :(
[01:17] <cwillu> ISOLATEDViRuS_: what debuntu said
[01:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> changing them in windows?
[01:18] <cwillu> back it up, and wipe it
[01:18] <lupine_85> can it match ACLs ?
[01:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> YOU MEAN I HAVE TO REINSTALL WINDOWS!!!!?
[01:18] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, i'd backup and reformat
[01:18] <lassegs> Hi. My fglrx isnt working. Please, take a look at this and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/148778
[01:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> j/k i have a laptop lol
[01:18] <debuntu> lupine_85, you can do ACL's with *nix
[01:18] <lupine_85> well, there we go :)
[01:18] <debuntu> lupine_85, i do it all the time on my fbsd servers
[01:18] <lupine_85> *nix is still better ;)
[01:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> hey debuntu, do you think if i backed up the drive on my pc, its going to be fine?
[01:18] <cwillu> acl's have no really use on a usb, unless it's being shared over the network in some way
[01:18] <debuntu> heh, in a lot of ways windows NTFS ACL's are a lot more advanced than the unix perms
[01:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> wow... ok... retarded question.
[01:19] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, yep :) to both
[01:19] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> what i meant to say, is how do i reformat the mofo?
[01:19] <cwillu> so, about my menu folder that won't go away...?  :)
[01:19] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, and read some book about linux. There are good ones available online for free
[01:19] <Jimmey__> ISOLATEDViRuS_, install Gparted, that can do it
[01:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> FRET: books come after my system is up and running in place of my old windows one.
[01:20] <crayzee> Can I safely delete the files in /var/log/mysql? There is over 300MB of them.
[01:20] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, or you could do it with the live disk
[01:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> Jimmey, is that in the synaptic package manager?
[01:20] <debuntu> cwillu, what's the prob?
[01:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> HOLY CRAP YOURE RIGHT!!
[01:20] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, that's not logical... First read, then do.
[01:20] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, sounds more logical to me
[01:20] <debuntu> crayzee, yeah, they will re-create when you restart mysql
[01:20] <modplug> gnome-window-manager crashes everytime i start it because it can't find theme metacity-1 ... how can i set it up to use another theme so that it won't crash
[01:21] <modplug> gnome-theme-manager crashes i mean
[01:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> FRET:everything is already up and running, all i need to do is map this drive which i know how to do. i didnt know however why i couldnt freaking delete crap on it
[01:21] <debuntu> modplug, i have a very glib answer that gets me into trouble
[01:21] <debuntu> modplug, use xfce4 :)
[01:21] <lupine_85> 1. report a bug; 2. install metacity-1 ?
[01:21] <Fudge> what is the package called for gmake?
[01:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> by chance is there a command to reformat the disk?
[01:21] <Fudge> i dont know how to search for it
[01:21] <lupine_85> mkfs
[01:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> mkfs?
[01:21] <lupine_85> man mkfs first so you don't get into trouble
[01:22] <modplug> lupine_85... it's not a bug, it's probably my own fault.. i've been installing compiz and xgl lately
[01:22] <lupine_85> as in, "make filesystem"
[01:22] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, let's make sure you know what the hell you are doing first
[01:22] <modplug> how do i install metacity-1?
[01:22] <FRET> ISOLATEDViRuS_, right
[01:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i always man the mkfs, you dont know me!
[01:22] <lupine_85> the default behaviour shouldn't be to crash, though ;)
[01:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> xD oh god, i need sleep.
[01:22] <lupine_85> that's a bug, no matter how you look at it
[01:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> whoa whoa whoa
[01:22] <lupine_85> install metacity-themes ?
[01:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> its gonna make a linux lfilesystem
[01:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> windows needs to be able to access the filesystem.
[01:23] <crayzee> debuntu, Ta
[01:23] <lupine_85> you did read the whole  manpage, right...?
[01:23] <lupine_85> hint: "-t"
[01:23] <debuntu> lol
[01:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> no.
[01:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i read the first line and jumped the gun.
[01:23] <debuntu> make it a FAT32
[01:24] <modplug> this is where it searches for the theme /usr/share/themes/\/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml
[01:24] <lupine_85> isn't it called vfat?
[01:24] <Fudge> how do you search apt-get for a package?
[01:24] <debuntu> then everything can access it, being that the fs is so crappy :)
[01:24] <debuntu> lupine_85, probably
[01:24] <debuntu> sometimes also known as msdos
[01:24] <lupine_85> modplug: worst-case scenario is that you have to automagically symlink that to somewhere else
[01:24] <lupine_85> that's fat16
[01:24] <debuntu> lupine_85, not on BSDs :)
[01:24] <lupine_85> oh ok ;)
[01:25] <debuntu> gets me everytime too
[01:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ok so i need to run /mkfs -t FAT32 /media/usbdisk   ?
[01:25] <lassegs> Hi. My fglrx isnt working. Please, take a look at this and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/148778. This is my xorg:http://pastebin.ca/148801
[01:26] <lupine_85> no, unmount the drive and use the device file
[01:26] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, i would unmount it and format the dvice
[01:26] <debuntu> s/dvice/device
[01:26] <lupine_85> use vfat instead of fat32
[01:26] <lupine_85> and get rid of the leading /
[01:26] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> will vfat be accessible to WINXP?
[01:26] <lupine_85> ...yes
[01:26] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ok
[01:27] <debuntu> so mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[01:27] <debuntu> or the -t flag
[01:27] <debuntu> i'm just confusing you know :)
[01:27] <lupine_85> assuming it's sda1 and not sda
[01:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> im completely lost now...
[01:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> mount -l
[01:27] <lupine_85> some USB devices don't bother with partitions
[01:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> JEBUS CHRIST
[01:27] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, what?
[01:28] <debuntu> ah, not terminal
[01:28] <jaMaLz> !sshd
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> 2nd time i did that.
[01:28] <lupine_85> man "JEBUS CHRIST"
[01:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk
[01:28] <lupine_85> hmm. Must be a ubuntu CE command
[01:28] <lupine_85> ok, so unmount the device
[01:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ...
[01:28] <lupine_85> then run the command debuntu gave you
[01:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ;_; /cry
[01:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i forgot how to...
[01:29] <lupine_85> sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[01:29] <debuntu> umount /media/usbdisk && mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[01:29] <debuntu> sudo umount /media/usbdisk && mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[01:29] <lupine_85> rule of thumb: don't do anything to a device file while it's mounted
[01:30] <lupine_85> debuntu: you'd need to sudo twice
[01:30] <debuntu> sorry, i always forget the sudo ... i'm a bad man who uses sudo -i straight away :(
[01:30] <debuntu> see?
[01:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> /dev/sdal: No such file or directory
[01:30] <debuntu> 1 not l
[01:30] <lupine_85> 1
[01:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ...
[01:30] <jaMaLz> when i do apt-get update it takes year and ign
[01:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> thats what i typed... sdal
[01:30] <lupine_85> ONE
[01:30] <debuntu> l is not 1
[01:30] <lupine_85> like 2
[01:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> oh
[01:30] <debuntu> 1 2 3 4
[01:30] <debuntu> jkl
[01:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> the text makes it look the same on my side...
[01:31] <lupine_85> use courier :)
[01:31] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, haha don't worry, almost everyone's been there
[01:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ...
[01:31] <lupine_85> or copy+paste
[01:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> um
[01:31] <debuntu> you need some serif boy!
[01:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> guyz
[01:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i just formatted and forgot to back up... /cry
[01:31] <lupine_85> ...ah...
[01:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> i think everything is on here
[01:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> let me check
[01:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> cd Documents && dir
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> when i right click the desktop or inside a folder and choose 'Create Document' it says empty file and no templates installed??....where do i get these templates
[01:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ok its all here.
[01:33] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, omg, are you kidding me?
[01:33] <debuntu> ahhh
[01:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> dude,
[01:33] <debuntu> stefg, yeah, when you learn the hard way, you seldom forget ;)
[01:33] <alex_> hi i'm new to linux just wondering if there was a player that would play music out of an IPOD
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[01:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> YOU stay up 4 days in a row and try to do what im doing, i can barely piss in the toilet without having to concentrate.
[01:34] <debuntu> alex_, oh, that would be a very special file, i'm sure
[01:34] <herojoker> hello
[01:34] <stefg> apt-get -f install
[01:34] <debuntu> alex_, maybe proprietary
[01:34] <debuntu> alex_, scary stuff, anyway
[01:34] <lupine_85> DRM-- :(
[01:34] <alex_> awesome
[01:34] <stefg> oops, this isn't the terminal, as we found out earlier :_)
[01:34] <eXistenZ> is grep = egrep ?
[01:34] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, yeah dude, i've been there .. exact same deal
[01:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> yeah, we found out repeatedly =/
[01:34] <debuntu> ISOLATEDViRuS_, that's how you get the knowledge
[01:34] <lupine_85> eXistenz: no
[01:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> AHHHH
[01:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> WORST MOVIE EVER!
[01:34] <lupine_85> egrep uses extended regex's, IIRC
[01:35] <lupine_85> man will tell you all about it
[01:35] <ISOLATEDViRuS_> ILL NEVER GET THOSE HOURS BACK OF MY LIFE!
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone have a clue about the document templates
[01:35] <debuntu> now i have to find my phone .. it disappeared around the time i started talking to you
[01:35] <eXistenZ> ISOLATEDViRuS_, I like it
[01:35] <debuntu> coincidence? i think not
[01:36] <eXistenZ> ISOLATEDViRuS, I like it
[01:36] <Ktron> Running 6.06.1 off of a
[01:37] <ajay> Alex, there is banshee - although it is completely written mono
[01:37] <debuntu> but grep -e is egrep
[01:37] <herojoker> here is a little suggestion: i think many newcomers were really lost on the console (i refer to the little upgrade error that happened). after the console login there should be a hint to a file that describes "how to survive on the console"
[01:37] <debuntu> :)
[01:37] <ajay> alex_,  there is banshee - although it is completely written mono
[01:37] <santa99> hi
[01:38] <debuntu> herojoker, console ain't the ubuntu way .. as i keep getting reminded on here ...
[01:38] <debuntu> herojoker, as I am a huge advocate for doing most things from console
[01:38] <ajay> alex_, amarok is good enough - banshee is work a try
[01:38] <debuntu> ajay, you hate mono?
[01:38] <ben_underscore> so what happened with the x windows snafu with ubuntu?
[01:38] <santa99> I 'm searching for a simple paint program like paint. Could anyone recommend me some programs ?
[01:38] <ajay> debuntu, not particularly fond of it
[01:39] <Ktron> Running 6.06.1 off of the respective ubuntu amd 64 live cd, having problems with installing-- either the install hangs on '[detecting]  file systems' or if I manually make the partition table, it exits without a popup-- is there a place I can look to find an error log or does anyone know my error is/was? I have 4 sata hard drives, and one of them (160gb) exclusively for the ubuntu install
[01:39] <lupine_85> herojoker: could always create a fortunes file? :)
[01:39] <ben_underscore> santa99, tuxpaint
[01:39] <debuntu> ben_underscore, bugged file got put out, recinded and bugless one put up
[01:39] <e-type> ajay: you'll see more and more of it ;)
[01:39] <ajay> santa99, try tuxpaint
[01:39] <debuntu> ben_underscore, need any more info?
[01:39] <ajay> or gimp (not simple though)
[01:39] <ben_underscore> debuntu, how?
[01:39] <debuntu> never the gimp for easy stuff
[01:39] <debuntu> ben_underscore, do you develop software or OSes?
[01:39] <ben_underscore> debuntu, ie: how did it get through quality control?
[01:39] <santa99> ben_underscore, can i change the GUI because it looks so childish
[01:39] <debuntu> ben_underscore, cause then i wouldn't have to explain
[01:39] <herojoker> lupine_85: of course, but i think a little help on the console should be standard for such a distro
[01:39] <ben_underscore> debuntu, yes software
[01:39] <lupine_85> Ktron: Alt+F4 on the alt install CD
[01:40] <Ktron> gimp is straightforward enough for simple things even if it can do fancy stuff
[01:40] <ajay> e-type, yeah! i know. corporates *love*  Mono
[01:40] <debuntu> ben_underscore, then you know the answer and are trolling
[01:40] <lupine_85> herojoker: definitely. even if it's just "man is your friend" in the MOTD
[01:40] <ben_underscore> debuntu, now now, that is not a nice comment.
[01:40] <debuntu> Ktron, but gimp is a huge update/download
[01:40] <debuntu> ben_underscore, sometimes the truth ain't nice
[01:41] <herojoker> lupine_85: so (as i never had anything to do with ubuntu), where should i suggest that?
[01:41] <ajay> but its surely worth the effort - debuntu - Its a one stop solution
[01:41] <lupine_85> launchpad.net
[01:41] <lupine_85> create a specification
[01:41] <debuntu> ajay, true, unlike mono
[01:41] <lupine_85> (really easy, your can be a one-liner :) )
[01:41] <ajay> santa99 , and if you are good in scripting - you can do a lot more with gimp
[01:41] <aes74> Really simple one, how can I in console change to swedish keyboard?
[01:42] <ajay> debuntu, you bet. :) - i see that our feelings are quite mutual about mono
[01:42] <debuntu> aes74, real simple if you are Swedish :)
[01:42] <ben_underscore> debuntu, i disagree. any software development i've been involved in has been through rigorous testing. sure minor bugs get through, and we all expect that, but major ones like x not working should have been picked up in the most simple of testing.
[01:42] <ben_underscore> debuntu, we can agree to differ :-)
[01:42] <debuntu> ajay, haha i almost left work because the boss brought in mono
[01:42] <jaMaLz> dapper/universe Packages are ign ??
[01:43] <lupine_85> is that bad?
[01:43] <lupine_85> (ign, not mono!)
[01:43] <lupine_85> mono is definitely bad
[01:43] <jaMaLz> lupine_85 stoped updating
[01:43] <ajay> debuntu, now thats a coincidence - i switched jobs cos of that. Although my new job is not better. But then again its not mono
[01:43] <aes74> debuntu: just cant remember where I do find LOADKEYMAP?
[01:43] <santa99> ajay, I'm aware what i can do with gimp but it has too much functions for a simple sketch or drawing
[01:44] <lupine_85> jamalz: ah
[01:44] <debuntu> ben_underscore, wasn't a major bug, and was resolved almost instantly. You are trolling because you know the answer, have seen other distros/OSes release bugged apps and know what goes on
[01:44] <Ktron> Anyway, so, where do ubuntu installs off of Live CDs log to?
[01:44] <debuntu> just because it affected X doesn't make it all that much more um ... traumatic
[01:44] <Blinker_> aes74: you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it'll walk you through a few steps before you get to it, but it's in there if you want to do it via terminal
[01:44] <ajay> santa99, what exacly do you intend to do (if i may ask)
[01:44] <debuntu> aes74, what he said
[01:45] <debuntu> ajay, hehe did you move onto C# and Visual Studio?
[01:45] <aes74> Blinker_: thx i'll check
[01:45] <jaMaLz> lupine_85 well i want to update my source.list
[01:45] <Blinker_> np
[01:45] <santa99> ajay, fast sketches for school. It should be so simple in use like paint in windows
[01:45] <ajay> debuntu, no way.  good ol C
[01:45] <lupine_85> krita?
[01:45] <lupine_85> (KDE app)
[01:45] <lupine_85> don't know of a gnome one, sorry
[01:45] <Ranbee> hi, is the xubuntu cd a livecd or just an installer? i just asked in #xubuntu but there's no one there!
[01:45] <jaMaLz> !universe
[01:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:46] <Blinker_> Ranbee: if i remember correctly it's both
[01:46] <debuntu> ajay, then count yourself lucky .. we went from a C++ shop to a mix of the worst crap i've ever seen ... Visual Studio
[01:46] <ajay> santa99, tuxpaint is thw way to go
[01:46] <lupine_85> debuntu: use lazarus!
[01:46] <debuntu> santa99, whatever, don't get the gimp
[01:46] <Ranbee> Blinker_: thanks, i think i'll download it now :)
[01:46] <santa99> ajay, thx but found something better gpaint
[01:46] <santa99> ajay, its exactly the thing i searched for
[01:47] <debuntu> lazarus?
[01:47] <Blinker_> Ranbee: I'm also in xubuntu, you need to have a little patience in there...not so many users as here
[01:47] <debuntu> i use what i'm told to use :)
[01:47] <ajay> santa99, cool :) thats good to know
[01:47] <lupine_85> ah, one of those :)
[01:47] <ajay> debuntu, that does not sound good.
[01:47] <Ranbee> Blinker_: np, i just want to try it out.
[01:47] <debuntu> it's called employment :)
[01:47] <santa99> ajay, you should try looks really pretty and easy to use
[01:48] <jaMaLz> i have ubuntu server
[01:48] <debuntu> Ranbee, if you are looking to install xubuntu and you have an ubuntu installer, talk to me
[01:48] <debuntu> installer disk
[01:48] <debuntu> if you really want to install xubuntu from the get go, ignore me
[01:48] <debuntu> well, disregard me
[01:49] <Ranbee> debuntu: what's an ubuntu installer? an ubuntu livecd?
[01:49] <Ranbee> i ahve that
[01:49] <lupine_85> but who knows what the official terminology is
[01:49] <debuntu> Ranbee, ok, i can show you a url that will tell you how to get rid of all the gnome crap, and then you just do a "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:50] <Ktron> Even if someone could just point me at some documentation on going from livecd up and running and installed on the desktop would be great and I'll try to find the name of the log file myself
[01:50] <debuntu> lupine_85, ^^
[01:50] <jaMaLz> guys please i've been just waiting 3 hours to pass apt-get update
[01:50] <Ranbee> debuntu: thanks, so i just update the sources, then install xubuntu?
[01:50] <debuntu> Ranbee, you have installed ubuntu already?
[01:51] <Ranbee> debuntu: no just the livecd
[01:51] <lupine_85> xubuntu live cd?
[01:51] <debuntu> Ranbee, ok, install it first, then update, then install xubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <Blinker_> ubu
[01:51] <Ranbee> lupine_85: ubuntu livecd
[01:51] <lupine_85> do a minimal install if you can, then install xubuntu-desktop ?
[01:51] <Ranbee> debuntu: OK, i'll try it out now thanks :)
[01:52] <debuntu> here's the url if you are interested: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[01:52] <debuntu> i'm a big advocate of aptitude over apt-get too :)
[01:52] <lupine_85> wow :)
[01:52] <lupine_85> now that's a command and a half
[01:52] <herojoker> lupine_85: ok, it's filed :)
[01:52] <debuntu> nice huh?
[01:53] <lupine_85> I do make an effort where ifconfig, route, etc. are concerned, and try to use "ip" instead :)
[01:53] <debuntu> lupine_85, thing about aptitude is if you use it to install, when you uninstall it will remove unneeded dependencies, apt-get won't
[01:53] <lupine_85> I know - it's just inertia that keeps me on apt-get, really
[01:54] <debuntu> lupine_85, only difference is instead of 'apt-get' you type aptitude .. "aptitude update && aptitude install hotporn"
[01:54] <lupine_85> ah, but apt-get is one character shorter... ;)
[01:54] <debuntu> lupine_85, i was the same , till i had to keep running deborphan
[01:54] <ootput> aptitude is one extra character
[01:54] <debuntu> ah, but with tab completion it's easier
[01:54] <lupine_85> I suppose I could always alias apt-get to aptitude...
[01:54] <debuntu> apt<tab>
[01:54] <debuntu> doh, apti<tab>
[01:54] <ootput> don't you find it easier to use the curses interface?
[01:55] <debuntu> ncurses makes me a little ill
[01:55] <lupine_85> reminds me of yast
[01:55] <ootput> resolution suggestion of conflicts
[01:55] <DBO> lupine_85, you can use aptitude like apt-get, sudo aptitude install package
[01:55] <lupine_85> buildroot-style ncurses are ok
[01:55] <DBO> Luke, and then you dont get that silly interface
[01:55] <DBO> lupine_85, ^^
[01:56] <jaym> where do i edit the ESSID information for Network-Manager
[01:56] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:56] <jaym> NetworkManager will only connect to my home network no place else
[01:56] <debuntu> lupine_85 knows all!
[01:56] <debuntu> ok, he knows most!
[01:56] <lassegs> please someone, ive been spending many hours helping others here. now i need help...
[01:56] <lassegs> Hi. My fglrx isnt working. Please, take a look at this and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/148778. This is my xorg:http://pastebin.ca/148801
[01:56] <debuntu> ok, he knows some!
[01:56] <lupine_85> oh definitely :)
[01:57] <debuntu> ;)
[01:57] <aes74> debuntu: I have server version installed so therefore no xserver installed. So I guess keymap is loaded from somewhere else?
[01:57] <NickOnScatolaMis> Hi to all! I've a problem about Mplayer and .3gp video files: I can't listen anything when I open it. I think there's a problem with amr audio codec in ffmpeg, but I don't know how to resolve it (sorry for my english, I'm Italian... :( )
[01:57] <debuntu> aes74, sorry, i really don't know anything about other languages etc ... ask again, someone will know
[01:58] <ootput> can a local repository of ubuntu packages created by apt-move co-exist with that of sarge?
[01:58] <ootput> i.e. will clobbering be an issue?
[01:58] <Ktron> Please, where is there a log file that is associated with installing ubuntu from a live cd?
[01:58] <lupine_85> ootput: isn't sarge gcc 3.4 ?
[01:58] <debuntu> ootput, if you try it, report back to us
[01:58] <ootput> lupine_85, how is that relevant?
[01:59] <J_P> hi all
[01:59] <debuntu> ootput, it isn't unless you build something from source i guess
[01:59] <lupine_85> e.g. breezy
[01:59] <lupine_85> complete PITA
[01:59] <debuntu> otherwise, having a different toolchain *will* fsck up your day
[01:59] <ootput> but that's ubuntu + ubuntu
[01:59] <ootput> i suppose debian and ubuntu will reside in different trees
[01:59] <lupine_85> that was gcc 3.4 + gcc 4.0
[02:00] <debuntu> ootput, try it
[02:00] <jaym> where do i edit the ESSID information for Network-Manager
[02:00] <Ktron> gah, you'd think this would be common knowledge or easy to find on their website, but I can't even find it in the forums
[02:00] <ootput> debuntu, yah
[02:00] <lupine_85> that's assuming it has one
[02:00] <lupine_85> have you checked /var/log ?
[02:00] <lupine_85> and all the vt's
[02:00] <debuntu> Ktron, what are you trying to do?
[02:00] <NickOnScatolaMis> there's a command for activate amr file in ffmpeg?
[02:01] <lupine_85> (the alt install cd outputs to alt+f4)
[02:01] <NickOnScatolaMis> amr encoding...
[02:01] <debuntu> NickOnScatolaMis, you might have to find another channel if no one here knows
[02:01] <Ktron> I booted a Livecd, got X working, but when I try to install using the icon on the desktop, it appears to fail, I'm trying to find a log or something so I can track down why
[02:02] <lupine_85> much less hassle
[02:02] <NickOnScatolaMis> debuntu, you've any suggest?
[02:02] <debuntu> Ktron, ah, well i would do an 'strace', but if you don't know what that is we'll go another route
[02:02] <debuntu> NickOnScatolaMis, no sorry, just wanted you to know you weren't being deliberately ignored
[02:02] <NickOnScatolaMis> ok
[02:02] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[02:03] <NickOnScatolaMis> byebye! :)
[02:03] <debuntu> ciao
[02:03] <ubuntu_> asdfsdf
[02:03] <Ktron> debuntu: an strace -ofilename? of which command?
[02:03] <debuntu> Ktron, have you used strace before?
[02:03] <hayden> where can i find extra fonts for ubuntu?
[02:03] <Ktron> like once, for a very specific use
[02:04] <debuntu> Ktron, then don't worry
[02:04] <debuntu> Ktron, um, you don't have another disk to try?
[02:04] <modplug> gnome-window-manager crashes everytime i start it because it can't find theme metacity-1 ... how can i set it up to use another theme so that it won't crash
[02:04] <tjb> Why Linux when there's Windows?
[02:05] <debuntu> tjb, really good question
[02:05] <Ktron> I don't on hand, but I can get to my windows distro to burn another disc yet-- why, is this one suspect?
[02:05] <debuntu> tjb, why do you live when you could commit suicide?
[02:05] <Ktron> or is there a different .iso besides the livecd amd 64 iso that I should try?
[02:05] <debuntu> Ktron, just wondering if it was .. ah you are using the 64 bit edition
[02:05] <santa99> he guys i have problems with my terminal
[02:06] <santa99> i can't run my terminal
[02:06] <tjb> debuntu: is it really like that?
[02:06] <debuntu> santa99, no pretty pictures?
[02:06] <debuntu> tjb, for you
[02:06] <Seveas> santa99, do you run compiz from quinsstorm?
[02:06] <santa99> Seveas, yeah could be
[02:06] <Ktron> debuntu: yep, I am, using the 6.06.1 amd 64 ubuntu livecd
[02:06] <tjb> debuntu: using Windows is like committing suicide, while using Linux is like living?
[02:06] <santa99> Seveas, yeah think i updatet some minutes before
[02:06] <debuntu> Ktron, then it could be something else, i don't know
[02:07] <Seveas> santa99, then go yell at her, she has put some seriously messed up gnome-terminal packages in her repo
[02:07] <debuntu> tjb, no, people asking questions like that in a channel like this should consider dying, or not trolling
[02:07] <tjb> debuntu: you want me to commit suicide?
[02:07] <Seveas> debuntu, behave...
[02:07] <debuntu> Seveas, ok, but look at his first question
[02:07] <mcphail> Seveas: i have done some yelling on #ubuntu-xgl, but noone seemed particularly bothered
[02:07] <Ktron> tjb: using windows is like stabbing yourself in the leg and leaving it there to get infected, and the switch to linux is like getting the knife removed
[02:07] <Seveas> debuntu, that could be a serious qustion
[02:08] <Seveas> mcphail, she's not there
[02:08] <debuntu> Seveas, but not one for this channel, surely
[02:08] <santa99> Seveas, so what can i do to get my terminal running
[02:08] <tjb> debuntu: where, then?
[02:08] <mcphail> Seveas: so who is the "quinn" on that channel?
[02:08] <debuntu> Seveas, anyway, i defer, and i'll answer it for him
[02:08] <Seveas> santa99, downgrade gnome-terminal and related packages (libcte)
[02:08] <debuntu> tjb, you really want to know?
[02:08] <tjb> debuntu: yes
[02:08] <Seveas> tjb, to quote a few famous people: "I came for the quality, and I stayed for the freedom"
[02:09] <debuntu> tjb, windows is like having a car you can't open the hood to, linux let's you open the hood, if you like
[02:09] <Ktron> debuntu: do you know of a log file associated with an install? I'm just trying to find a place to determine what my error really is
[02:09] <santa99> Seveas, how can I do this without terminal
[02:09] <gnomefreak> mcphail: quinn is the maintainer of the beerorkid repos. quinn sometimes hangs out in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:09] <Seveas> santa99, <alt><f1L
[02:09] <Seveas> santa99, <alt><f1>
[02:09] <ainull_> helo all
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[02:09] <tjb> debuntu: do you mean recompiling the kernel?
[02:09] <debuntu> Ktron, no, luckily i have never had problems with the install ... someone will know; maybe Seveas
[02:09] <ainull_> how do i find what package gives a particular file ?
[02:09] <santa99> Seveas, and with command in the terminal
[02:09] <Seveas> Ktron, /var/log/installer
[02:09] <debuntu> tjb, i know you are trolling, but i will humour Seveas .... no, not like recompiling the kernel
[02:10] <tjb> debuntu: i'm not
[02:10] <tjb> debuntu: i'm just curious
[02:10] <Seveas> tjb, let me turn the question around: does windows have *any* advantage over linux?
[02:10] <Seveas> windows is expensive, buggy, hard to maintain and a genral pain in the ass
[02:10] <tjb> Seveas: i don't know much about linux
[02:11] <tjb> debuntu: what did you mean by 'getting under the hood'?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> +1 Seveas :)
[02:11] <debuntu> tjb, i'm probably not the best person to ask. I like *nix, i have always (for the last 20 years) liked it. I am what you call a 'fan-boy'
[02:11] <santa99> Seveas, sorry but i have no idea how i can downgrade the things could you give me a little guidance
[02:11] <Seveas> tjb, then I suggest that you download the Ubuntu desktop CD -- it lets you play with Ubuntu withous installing
[02:11] <Ktron> Seveas: is there a particular log file associated with installing from a livecd? I'm trying to find a place to find why installing fails
[02:11] <tjb> debuntu: but how did you mean?  i thought you meant compiling the kernel etc.
[02:11] <FRET> bye all...
[02:11] <debuntu> tjb, i mean you can actually get some transparency to the OS you are using
[02:11] <Seveas> Ktron, /var/log/installer/syslog
[02:12] <tjb> Seveas: does it write to the hard disk?
[02:12] <debuntu> tjb, if you choose, you can see what is going on behind the scenes
[02:12] <Seveas> tjb, no
[02:12] <Ktron> Seveas: thanks so much
[02:12] <gnomefreak> tjb: only if you decide to install it
[02:12] <Seveas> tjb, you *can* install with it, but you don't have to
[02:12] <tjb> okay
[02:12] <Seveas> (that's anothr thing windows can't do ;))
[02:12] <debuntu> tjb, what do you usually use windows for?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Seveas: what install properly?
[02:12] <tjb> debuntu: programming, gaming, web browsing, usenet reading
[02:12] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ;)
[02:13] <debuntu> tjb, well forget gaming, all the rest *nix is better
[02:13] <gnomefreak> tjb: all that is easy to do on linux. gaming is a bit tough though
[02:13] <debuntu> tjb, dual boot, and you'll always be happy
[02:13] <danielinu2> debuntu, pino-boy
[02:13] <debuntu> tjb, actually, quad boot, and you'll be happier
[02:13] <tjb> i did dual-boot years ago, but i didn't really give linux much time
[02:13] <tjb> thing is, if i dual-boot, it gets tricky
[02:14] <tjb> it's not easy to wipe one partition
[02:14] <Seveas> tjb, contrary to windows, linux has improved a lot in the past few years
[02:14] <santa99> Seveas, no idea how i can downgrade the terminal
[02:15] <gnomefreak> santa99: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the terminal version you want and all the depends that go with it. iirc there are a bunch
[02:15] <lupine_85> gaming is getting better, too
[02:15] <lupine_85> sims 2 still doesn't play :(
[02:15] <tjb> isn't it harder to install things and so on
[02:15] <osfameron> Seveas: XP was a big improvement, or at least win2k was a massive improvemente before XP...
[02:15] <santa99> gnomefreak, isn't there a possibility do downgrade everything in the console
[02:15] <debuntu> tjb, not at all
[02:15] <gnomefreak> santa99: yes it is but its a bit harder
[02:15] <debuntu> tjb, but if you aren't the kind of person that likes to tweak things, stick with windows
[02:15] <Seveas> osfameron, xp is 5 years old, 2k 7 years
[02:16] <tjb> how about, say, my modem, which has only windows drivers
[02:16] <gnomefreak> santa99: its not a one command way
[02:16] <debuntu> tjb, i don't mean tweaking desktops
[02:16] <lupine_85> for me, installing stuff is easier in linux than windows
[02:16] <osfameron> Seveas: yeah, maybe since then it's a bit stagnant with vista being delayed so long, fair enough :-)
[02:16] <tjb> there might be linux equivalents, but they're not official
[02:16] <debuntu> tjb, what modem? there are ways and means
[02:16] <santa99> gnomefreak, could you explain me because i  would prefer to do it in the terminal
[02:16] <tjb> speedtouch usb 330
[02:16] <gnomefreak> santa99: you have to remove what you want than install the older version and you might want to pin it or it will attempt to upgrade it
[02:16] <lupine_85> does windows come with 18,000 programs that can be installed for free with a few clicks? ;)
[02:16] <Seveas> urgh, network over usb
[02:16] <Seveas> usb isn't meant to be a network...
[02:16] <debuntu> tjb, do a google and see if it's supported
[02:16] <lupine_85> (alright, it's not 18,000 *programs*, but you get the idea)
[02:17] <mcphail> santa99: sudo aptitude install package=version (iirc)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: its more now
[02:17] <lupine_85> wow :D
[02:17] <tjb> but even if it is, it's not official.  that's what concerns me
[02:17] <gnomefreak> breezy was around 18,00
[02:17] <debuntu> lupine_85, clicks? what are these clicks you talk of?
[02:17] <Seveas> tjb, that thing works under linux too
[02:17] <tjb> like, will it definitely work
[02:17] <gnomefreak> 18,000
[02:17] <secleinteer> hey, if i follow the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161 for install utorrent on wine, will i be able to minimize it to the system tray?
[02:17] <lupine_85> things that people new to linux use
[02:17] <lupine_85> synaptic, adept, etc
[02:17] <Seveas> you need some tricks because the thing is crap, but it will work
[02:17] <santa99> mcphail: do you know that was the last package what worked from gnome-terminal
[02:17] <tjb> how is it crap?
[02:17] <debuntu> lupine_85, oh clicks ... never used one myself
[02:17] <gnomefreak> tjb: free support on linux no phonecalls needed
[02:17] <lassegs> Hi. My fglrx isnt broken. Please, take a look at this and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/148778. This is my xorg:http://pastebin.ca/148801
[02:17] <gnomefreak> tjb: no personal info sent out
[02:18] <lassegs> *is broken
[02:18] <mcphail> santa99: you could ask ubotu. the beerorkid packages are unofficial and ubotu only sees official packages
[02:18] <lassegs> :P
[02:18] <gnomefreak> tjb: no viruses/spyware/malware
[02:18] <debuntu> anyway, shouldn't queries like this be directed to #linux-advocacy?
[02:18] <santa99> !gnome-terminal
[02:18] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 165 kB, installed size 396 kB
[02:18] <tjb> will the gaming situation ever improve?
[02:18] <tjb> how are they going to solve that problem?
[02:18] <tjb> make a pure windows emulator?
[02:18] <santa99> !gnome-terminal-data
[02:18] <ootput> is there a file in /etc that specifies the release?
[02:18] <ubotu> gnome-terminal-data: Data files for the GNOME terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 788 kB, installed size 9088 kB
[02:18] <lassegs> tjb its beeing resolved
[02:18] <gnomefreak> santa99: comment out hte xgl repos after you remove the package than update than install package again
[02:18] <tjb> get companies to have games work on linux somehow?
[02:18] <ra1> hi all
[02:19] <debuntu> gnomefreak, no viruses or malware? i have a little program i wrote for you to install
[02:19] <tjb> get producers to support linux i mean
[02:19] <tjb> lassegs: how?
[02:19] <lupine_85> tjb: wine and cedega work quite well
[02:19] <santa99> gnomefreak, ok will try
[02:19] <lupine_85> and more and more companies are supporting linux
[02:19] <tjb> last time i tried wine it was so slow thoug
[02:19] <tjb> though
[02:19] <ra1> i need 2 take 600 GB of data backup to other computer
[02:19] <mcphail> santa99: remember to comment out the beerorkid repos in /etc/apt/sources.list to avoid installing any more rubbish from there
[02:19] <Seveas> tjb, there's a catch-22 there: gaming support will improve if linux becomes more popular and vice versa
[02:19] <lupine_85> id, s2games, bioware, maxis...
[02:19] <Seveas> fortunately that is improving 
[02:19] <lassegs> tjb, the numbers of native linux games has been massivly increasing rapidly the last year
[02:19] <gnomefreak> debuntu: when was last time you saw a virus wrote for linux that did something bad?
[02:19] <debuntu> why waste time with wine? if you need a windows thing, use windows
[02:19] <santa99> mcphail, already done :)
[02:19] <lupine_85> we're getting there slowly
[02:19] <ra1> which is the best tool in linux
[02:20] <Volvo> my ADSL usb modem / router /firewall doesn't works with UBUNTU
[02:20] <Seveas> ra1, rsync
[02:20] <lassegs> tjb, also the 3d card drivers for linux gets better and better fast
[02:20] <lupine_85> debuntu: and pay the license fee?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[02:20] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:20] <debuntu> Seveas, well actually gaming support is more to do with the development packages and deals with MS
[02:20] <tjb> won't it be hard for game producers though if they feel the need to support multiple platforms?
[02:20] <mcphail> ra1: screen
[02:20] <debuntu> gnomefreak, about 2 seconds ago
[02:20] <debuntu> gnomefreak, they don't get out into the wild much, but they are there
[02:20] <lupine_85> as long as they're not using DirectX, it's (fairly) trivial to port windows->linux
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone tell me how to increase my refresh rate from 60hz up to around 75
[02:20] <gnomefreak> debuntu: i havent seen it and if you wrote it thats your own fault
[02:20] <santa99> mcphail, in the last days the berkoid repo broke some things like terminal , synaptic and some other things
[02:20] <Seveas> tjb, it means more work, but not much if they write their code properly
[02:20] <tjb> lupine_85: o rly
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Volvo: Did you check the supported hardware list.?
[02:20] <lupine_85> ya rly
[02:20] <lassegs> tjb, theyll have to do some changes, yes, but thats not a problem
[02:20] <mcphail> santa99: yep. I was bitten too
[02:20] <lupine_85> ;)
[02:21] <debuntu> gnomefreak, i'm not starting a flame war with you, but to say that linux doesn't have viruses or malware is incorrect
[02:21] <tjb> :D
[02:21] <santa99> *yell of pleasure* terminal is working
[02:21] <ra1> Seveas: rsync will take hell lot of time as well as memory also
[02:21] <debuntu> gnomefreak, there are others that i didn't even write out there! imagine
[02:21] <lupine_85> lol
[02:21] <tjb> guys, doesn't it concern you that drivers and such aren't official though?
[02:21] <tjb> like, what if it stops working or something
[02:21] <lassegs> tjb, especially with the new high capasity medias, like hddvd and blu ray
[02:21] <ra1> mcphail: screen is it a tool
[02:21] <mcphail> ra1: rsync is extremely efficient
[02:21] <debuntu> screen is a God
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> debuntu: You are sounding more and more like a troll.. Yes anyone can write a program that is destructive...
[02:21] <lassegs> :P
[02:21] <Seveas> tjb, no
[02:22] <tjb> debuntu is right though
[02:22] <lupine_85> tjb: then you can contact the developers directly (because you'll know who they are) and find out why it's stoped working
[02:22] <lupine_85> jack-sparrow: advocating caution is never a bad thing
[02:22] <ra1> mcphail: that true but memory usage is the prob i want take around 600gb of data on network
[02:22] <mcphail> ra1: yes, screen is a tool
[02:22] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, here we go ... i'm trolling how? by saying that yes, there are viruses and malware that have been written for linux?
[02:22] <mcphail> ra1: then rsync is the best candidate for the job
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> debuntu: JUst try to get it included in the repos..
[02:22] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, or trolling because i dared to question an op?
[02:23] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, ah i see, windows viruses are usually distributed through windows update?
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone tell me why clamav aint working
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> debuntu: No, because you refuse to look at the facts
[02:23] <ra1> but backuping 600GB i dont have idea how long it will take
[02:23] <tjb> Jack_Sparrow: what repos?  the kernel one?
[02:23] <Seveas> ra1, a while
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> debuntu: WIndows updates just include spyware
[02:23] <mcphail> ra1: a long time the first time, a few seconds the next
[02:23] <tjb> Jack_Sparrow: he's talking about malware that runs on linux
[02:23] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, tell me the facts .. and the one about officially releasing viruses too, that intrigues me
[02:23] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, no they include new bugs -- and so doUbuntu updates
[02:23] <lupine_85> plenty of malware for linux
[02:23] <lupine_85> less viruses
[02:24] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, so you are saying, that if a virus doesn't exist in the repos, it's not a virus.
[02:24] <lupine_85> but they are around
[02:24] <debuntu> ok
[02:24] <debuntu> lupine_85, exactly
[02:24] <Seveas> There's one very popular piece of malware for Ubuntu
[02:24] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, you seem to be trolling me, and i'm not biting
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> None of this is on topic or productive..
[02:24] <Seveas> it's called automati
[02:24] <Seveas> it's called automatix
[02:24] <lassegs> how about taking the off topic debate to offtopic?
[02:24] <tjb> i know full well that linux is, by probability at least, significantly more secure than windows -- there is doubting that
[02:24] <debuntu> Seveas, well i agree there
[02:24] <Seveas> highly destructive
[02:24] <gnomefreak> ok lets try this: malware/viruses/spyware do not affect ubuntu/linux if you stick with the official packages
[02:25] <debuntu> gnomefreak, ok, thats good :)
[02:25] <lupine_85> s/"do not"/"might not"/
[02:25] <ra1> mcphail: is there is any other tool efficient tool
[02:25] <Seveas> tjb, Ubuntu is by default more secure than windows -- you can still make your system insecure as hell though 
[02:25] <tjb> can i buy live CDs?
[02:25] <debuntu> lassegs, where were you when the linux advocacy convo started?
[02:25] <tjb> Seveas: yeah
[02:25] <Seveas> tjb, no
[02:25] <Seveas> you can get them for free
[02:25] <gnomefreak> debuntu: i didnt think i needed to say that since we dont support anything but official packages ;)
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb: yes on ebay
[02:25] <tjb> Seveas: i have no CD burner =(
[02:25] <lassegs> debuntu, probably playing football ....
[02:25] <tjb> Jack_Sparrow: acknowledged
[02:25] <Seveas> tjb, http://shipit.ubuntu.com -- they'll send it to you for free
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb: Also free
[02:25] <debuntu> gnomefreak, well, at least you didn't kick me for disagreeing with you
[02:25] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i fix this 'patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ clamscan
[02:26] <Paddy_EIRE> ERROR: Can't initialize the virus database
[02:26] <Paddy_EIRE> '
[02:26] <debuntu> the ubuntu way!
[02:26] <lassegs> debuntu, what has that to do with anything?
[02:26] <tjb> Seveas: wow
[02:26] <gnomefreak> debuntu: i dont kick for disagreeing
[02:26] <debuntu> lassegs, let's take this to offtopic
[02:26] <TLE> Are there any differences in the package structure of a Debian package and a Ubuntu package?
[02:26] <tjb> Seveas: doesn't it cost them?
[02:26] <mcphail> tjb: if you're in the uk, you can purchase cds from the linuxemporium
[02:26] <debuntu> gnomefreak, other ops haven't been so kind
[02:26] <lassegs> agreed
[02:26] <tjb> yeah, i'm in the uk
[02:26] <lupine_85> TLE: no
[02:26] <debuntu> get the free ones, feels so much better
[02:26] <Seveas> tjb, it costs them a lot, but there's a billionaire space tourist backing us ;)
[02:26] <lupine_85> identikit
[02:26] <tjb> space tourist?
[02:26] <ootput> rsync is good
[02:27] <tjb> does he have a propeller hat
[02:27] <Seveas> tjb, http://markshuttleworth.com
[02:27] <gnomefreak> tjb: cosmanout
[02:27] <lupine_85> mark shuttleworth
[02:27] <debuntu> just get him to kick in more than the 10 mill
[02:27] <ootput> but unison is much better :)
[02:27] <debuntu> and tell him to answer my emails
[02:27] <Seveas> debuntu, he kicked in 20M
[02:27] <TLE> lupine_85: thanks
[02:27] <debuntu> Seveas, i thought the statement was 10 mill a year
[02:27] <r1h> hi , i have this error when i run autogen
[02:27] <Seveas> no
[02:27] <tjb> so he just decided to fund the project?
[02:27] <Seveas> 10M as a start and 10M for the foundation as a reserve
[02:28] <r1h> checking for gtk-doc >= 1.0...
[02:28] <r1h>   testing gtkdocize... not found.
[02:28] <Ktron> My installation log file looks like: http://ktron.pastecode.com/3666 and I think it's hung-- unless it could a long time at this point in the install?
[02:28] <Seveas> !compiling > r1h
[02:28] <debuntu> Seveas, so, like i said, 10 mill
[02:28] <Seveas> debuntu, 10+10=20
[02:28] <r1h> but when i try apt-get install gtk-doc there is no such package\\
[02:28] <r1h> help?
[02:28] <debuntu> Seveas, 10 + 10 that doesn't get used = 10
[02:28] <ootput> yeah, but that xorg issue was a crippler
[02:28] <Seveas> debuntu, no, 10+10=20
[02:28] <Seveas> he's out 20M
[02:29] <debuntu> Seveas, he's out 20 million, but only 10 mill has gone into ubuntu
[02:29] <tjb> that's very generous
[02:29] <debuntu> there is 10 mill in reserve
[02:29] <lupine_85> think of the interest!
[02:29] <Seveas> debuntu, no 20M has gone into Ubuntu...
[02:29] <tjb> another criticism of linux is the mascot
[02:29] <lupine_85> ?
[02:29] <lupine_85> what's wrong with tux?
[02:29] <tjb> it's a fat penguin, which suggests slowness.  and it's not cute either
[02:29] <tjb> the gnu bull is worse
[02:29] <lupine_85> how about lux, then?
[02:29] <debuntu> Seveas, when's the next 10 mill then?
[02:29] <tjb> the gnu bull looks old, boring, and possible even evil
[02:29] <lupine_85> oh, gnu is hideous, I agree
[02:29] <Seveas> tjb, ubuntu has it's own logo 
[02:29] <lupine_85> but not evil
[02:30] <ootput> I'm not sure about that 'fat' argument
[02:30] <SpComb> oOoboOontoOoOo!
[02:30] <lupine_85> lux is cute ;)
[02:30] <mcphail> tjb: that's not a bull -that's RMS!
[02:30] <tjb> couldn't they have used cute animals?
[02:30] <tjb> like adorable ones
[02:30] <tjb> mcphail: haha
[02:30] <Ktron> for a support channel, its not sounding like you're asking for support anymore tjb
[02:30] <ootput> yeah, like a tarantula
[02:30] <tjb> like gizmo from the gremlins
[02:30] <Seveas> tj9991, it's not a bull, it's a gnu...
[02:30] <lupine_85> like the BSD daemon?
[02:30] <debuntu> Seveas, oh, and since you have the inside track ... the marketing is good, but the constant emphasis on dumbing down is turning off semi-experienced users who would otherwise use ubuntu
[02:30] <tj9991> are you sure?
[02:30] <Volvo> thanks for the heads up Jack_Sparrow , but i thought HCL is only for windows and such word doesn't exist in GNU dictionary
[02:30] <debuntu> Ktron, he never did ask for support ...
[02:30] <Seveas> debuntu, there is no sucj thing as a constant emphasis on dumbing down...
[02:30] <tj9991> cause I would more likely call it a guh-noo
[02:31] <tjb> i'm just getting to know things about linux from users
[02:31] <Ktron> debuntu: well, he's not even asking questions anymore
[02:31] <tjb> another thing -- isn't rms a bit ott?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[02:31] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:31] <Seveas> debuntu, there is an emphasis on making things easy to use... that's not dumbing down
[02:31] <debuntu> Seveas, hmm so when someone asks how to recompile a kernel, for their own interest, and ops scream "You don't need to recompile with ubuntu ever! no recompiling, don't tell him how!" that's not dumbing down?
[02:31] <tjb> like, over the top with the gpl etc.?
[02:32] <lupine_85> it is when you start removing the alternative options :(
[02:32] <Seveas> debuntu, ops don't screm that
[02:32] <Seveas> ops merely say !kernel
[02:32] <srusso> hey can anyone help out
[02:32] <lupine_85> e.g. graphical installer dvd and separate, hardly-mentioned, aicd
[02:32] <debuntu> Seveas,we must have different logs
[02:32] <mcphail> debuntu: if you need to ask how to recompile a kernel, you're probably going to get it wrong anyway
[02:32] <tjb> is anyone concerned about rms?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <debuntu> mcphail, people have to ask sometime
[02:32] <mistraal> how do I recompile Apache 2 to change the default path fo suExec?
[02:32] <ootput> how do i pull in all the packages that were used during installation (off the cd)? Essentially, how do i fetch packages that have already been installed?
[02:32] <tjb> i remember reading that someone quit their project over him
[02:33] <Seveas> ootput, apt-get install --reinstall
[02:33] <tjb> can't remember what project it was
[02:33] <srusso> well, I am having issues gettting my ati video card work proprly
[02:33] <tjb> saying he's a nasty person or something
[02:33] <debuntu> the idea is that lots of people who are drawn to linux want to eventually get into the 'guts' of the OS
[02:33] <Seveas> tjb, probably more than one
[02:33] <tjb> overbearing
[02:33] <ootput> Seveas, this retrieves _all_ packages?
[02:33] <tjb> wouldn't i be thereby supporting this person
[02:33] <debuntu> when people are constantly told 'no
[02:33] <Seveas> ootput, no, you need to give it a list of packages ;)
[02:33] <debuntu> you don't have to do that, it's just like windows .. just point and click' that turns some off
[02:33] <ootput> Seveas, well, yeah ^^;
[02:33] <tjb> do you see what i mean?
[02:33] <lupine_85> ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop are the important ones?
[02:34] <Seveas> lupine_85, no -- the packages they depend on are the important ones
[02:34] <DBO> debuntu, this conversation needs to move to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:34] <lupine_85> oh, ok :)
[02:34] <debuntu> Seveas, so what i mean by 'dumbing down' is 'making ubuntu more accesible to windows refugees, at the expense of semi-experienced linux users'
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> DBO: he has already been told..
[02:34] <Seveas> debuntu, there is no 'at the expense'
[02:34] <debuntu> DBO, when does the advocacy conversation move?
[02:34] <Samuli^> easy to use is not an expense.
[02:35] <Samuli^> althought some elititists might disagree.
[02:35] <Samuli^> -ti
[02:35] <debuntu> Seveas, yes, at the expense
[02:35] <tjb> even linus has laughed at new GPL changes.  what does this mean?
[02:35] <lassegs> to the #ubuntu-offtopic. get going guys!
[02:35] <lupine_85> depends on what you mean by 'easy to use' ;)
[02:35] <zsh> !lamp
[02:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:35] <debuntu> and i'm not an elitist at all ... i'm using ubuntu
[02:35] <tjb> are they going to go through -- and if so, what happens then?
[02:35] <Seveas> debuntu, no, more experienced users can still do what they want...
[02:35] <Seveas> where's the expense
[02:35] <DBO> debuntu, if you remain offtopic in here you will be removed
[02:35] <debuntu> Seveas, and incidently, tjb is a troll ... he knows about the GPL changes etc
[02:35] <tjb> debuntu: that doesn't mean i'm a troll
[02:36] <debuntu> DBO, so i can't respond to an ops questions? ie Seveas
[02:36] <tjb> debuntu: maybe i've been reading about it but want to ask users their opinions
[02:36] <Seveas> debuntu, that's why I'm already ignoring him, I'd advise you to do the same
[02:36] <tjb> really?  what have i done that's suggested that i'm a troll?
[02:36] <debuntu> Seveas, agreed
[02:36] <tjb> wow
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> DBO: debuntu by his very nick is not here to help or to learn, just to disrupt..
[02:36] <gnomefreak> opinions belog in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <lassegs> please this is a support channel. move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:36] <debuntu> Jack_Sparrow, ah know i see .. how about you scroll up and see how many ppl i've helped
[02:37] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, please behave -- debuntu isn't a troll
[02:37] <tjb> too many 'troll' accusations
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I just logged back into my gnome session from my working xgl session, could someone tell me what this means The X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings.  Which set would you like to use? use x settings or use gnome settings
[02:37] <tjb> i can't ask questions now -- just because i know about the gpl changes
[02:37] <tjb> *sigh*
[02:38] <Seveas> Paddy_EIRE, 'gnome settings' and tick 'always do this'
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:38] <tjb> knowing about gpl changes does not mean that i am a linux user
[02:38] <debuntu> DBO, i ask you again, if an op addresses me with an offtopic question, do i not have the right to respond?
[02:38] <ootput> what's the equivalent of eac on the linux platform? What kind of backend is used with abcde?
[02:38] <DBO> debuntu, which is also why you havent been removed
[02:38] <nondito> anyone using dapper under vmware workstation and got the auto guest resolution change working on host resize?
[02:39] <debuntu> DBO, yes
[02:39] <tjb> check my user agent (i'm using windows)
[02:39] <debuntu> like that EdgyEft ? ;)
[02:39] <tjb> if i were a linux user, there's a good chance i'd be using it now, surely
[02:39] <jamalz> well how to fix the ign problem with apt-get update? ?
[02:39] <zy> hi
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how i can change my refresh rate im running proper ati drivers at 1280x1024 but can only choose 60hz?
[02:39] <Seveas> jamalz, that's not a problem 
[02:39] <ootput> well, you could be a linux user who's restricted to windows machines at the workplace
[02:39] <ootput> that's fairly common
[02:40] <DBO> Paddy_EIRE, thats an issue with your xorg.conf
[02:40] <Seveas> Paddy_EIRE, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <lupine_85> or he could be meanly changing the user-agent ;)
[02:40] <tjb> ootput: but why do people think i'm a troll?  asking too many questions?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You probably have a virus...
[02:40] <jamalz> Seveas when i do apt-get install squid it gives me GPG error
[02:40] <tjb> ootput: i came in here to find out more (from actual users)
 ive been in this before and am kinda scared of messing things up
[02:40] <ootput> tjb, probably the whole noise:sound ratio
[02:40] <Seveas> jamalz, pastebin the error please
 lol
[02:40] <tjb> ootput: noise?  i'm asking questions
[02:40] <Seveas> Paddy_EIRE, make a backup of xorg.conf
[02:40] <lupine_85> [13:40]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from lupine_85: None of your business?
[02:41] <jamalz> Seveas its over another box. but i can give ya the error line
 how to do that the nrestore if i need to
[02:41] <zy> do you speak chinese??
[02:41] <ootput> tjb, are they all ubuntu-specific? (I haven't been following the conversation; that ratio thing was just a guess ;))
[02:41] <Seveas> !cn
[02:41] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:41] <tjb> man, everyone's so suspicious
[02:41] <tjb> ootput: mainly linux in general, but i'm thinking of trying ubuntu in particular
[02:42] <jamalz> W: GPG error:http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:42] <zy> #ubuntu-cn
[02:42] <jamalz> W: GPG error:http://us.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb: you could do a lot worse
[02:42] <Seveas> jamalz, sudo apt-key list
[02:42] <ootput> tjb, of course, there could be an issue where you're asking for technicalities from a non-technical group?
[02:43] <ootput> tjb, in which case, you're better off reading the (copious) amounts of documentation on Linux in general
[02:43] <jamalz> i have 4 keys
[02:43] <jamalz> and its time problem
[02:43] <tjb> ootput: i've read a lot.  i'm asking more about people's experience and opinions now
[02:43] <raf__> xserver safe to update
[02:43] <r1h> Seveas, i know how to compile , i dont know how to install gtk-doc with apt though
[02:43] <Seveas> !gtk2-doc
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2-doc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <raf__> gtk-doc
[02:43] <raf__> lol
[02:44] <raf__> does synaptic have the doc?
[02:44] <Seveas> !libgtk2.0-doc
[02:44] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-doc: Documentation for the GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2431 kB, installed size 14716 kB
[02:44] <Seveas> r1h, --^
[02:44] <tenco> hi folks!
[02:44] <raf__> hola
[02:44] <gnomefreak> tjb: please ask about opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic they will be more than happy to answer any non-support questions you might have
[02:44] <Seveas> r1h, little tip: apt-cache search gtk | grep doc
[02:44] <r1h> raf__, E: Couldn't find package gtk-doc
[02:44] <tenco> how complete is the source DVD? it's 1.1 Gb smaller than the normal DVD
[02:44] <ootput> tjb, to be honest, you're better off firing up an installation, and getting your hands dirty
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tjb: Had great luck with Ubuntu, not so much with Kubuntu..  Even though I like KDE...  Mepis is my choice for KDE
[02:44] <raf__> do u have all repos enabled?
[02:45] <idefix> my housemate who left our house without saying anything at all left a medion scanner.. I have a USB cable which fits... is linux so genius that I can simply use this scanner now?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> r1h: that is not a package or the right package name
[02:45] <r1h> raf__, i have universe and multiverse
[02:45] <raf__> i have a list in a txt file
[02:45] <Seveas> r1h, did you read what I and ubotu said?
[02:45] <raf__> with a large amount of repos
[02:45] <debuntu> Ok, this is offtopic, and i'll leave after it. I come here to help ubuntu novices because i believe in the idea and ethos of ubuntu. I also believe in the superiority of *nix to windows, and would do anything to get people to switch. I choose to use ubuntu and i've been using *nix for over 20 years. What gets my goat is that anytime the direction or long-term plan of ubuntu is questioned, the ops and people with ubuntu connections become alarmingly defe
[02:45] <debuntu> nsive. Without input from other member of the *nix community ubuntu is going to sink as fast as any other distro that quickly becomes popular. Ops, lighten up, and learn to at least make people feel like staying around and helping the novices when you are all asleep.
[02:45] <debuntu> ciao
[02:45] <raf__> intrested?
[02:45] <tjb> acknowledged
[02:46] <gnomefreak> ty that was getting old fast
[02:46] <r1h> Seveas, umm , ok ill try install that
[02:46] <r1h> Seveas, thanks
[02:46] <raf__> if you use this repo list ---> http://rbancer.2.ag/source.txt.zip
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> idefix: One way to find out
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> why when i press the @ key twice do I get this symbol  if i press once then nothing happens
[02:46] <raf__> u should get it
[02:46] <ootput> who wsa the victim?
[02:47] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, in which environment?
[02:47] <nondito> HI, anyone using dapper under vmware workstation and got the auto guest resolution change working on host resize?
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> gnome
[02:47] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, which apps in particular?
[02:47] <Paddy_EIRE> them all i think
[02:48] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, what happens when you press ', an then a different character?
[02:48] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, perhaps your ' is sending escape coes
[02:48] <ootput> *codes
 comp beeps
[02:49] <skar> hi, is there any repo for inkscape 0.44, i'm on breezy
[02:49] <r1h> Seveas, i still have the error after ijstall libgtk2-doc
[02:49] <gnomefreak> raf__: please dont advise people to use that list. its bad and can be very destructive
[02:49] <r1h> checking for gtk-doc >= 1.0...
[02:49] <r1h>   testing gtkdocize... not found.
[02:49] <ISOLATEDViRuS> w00ties
[02:49] <raf__> how so?
[02:49] <tenco> how complete is the source DVD? it's 1.1 Gb smaller than the normal DVD
[02:49] <raf__> its what i sue
[02:49] <raf__> use
[02:49] <raf__> its for 60.6
 how do i get the normal uk keyboard layout back
[02:49] <Seveas> r1h, libgtk2.0-doc
[02:49] <gnomefreak> raf__: debian repos can hose your system and most of the repos are unsupported
[02:49] <raf__> 6.06
[02:50] <raf__> if u dont know what youre doin
[02:50] <raf__> lol
[02:50] <r1h> Seveas, yer , thats what i just installed ,
[02:50] <gnomefreak> raf__: the package Seveas just gave is in the ubuntu repos
[02:50] <raf__> ok
[02:50] <kishore> how to mount the drive that is in ntfs
[02:51] <gnomefreak> !ntfs > kishore
[02:51] <gnomefreak> kishore: please read your pm
[02:51] <raf__> mkdir /media/windows
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> kishore: diskmounter.. but please dont try to write to ntfs
[02:51] <raf__> cd /media/windows
[02:51] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[02:51] <kishore> how to do tat
[02:51] <raf__> then mount it there
[02:51] <raf__> unmask 022
[02:51] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, you must've strayed from the default?
[02:51] <kishore> i am new to linux
[02:52] <r1h> Seveas, do u have a command gtkdocize?
 now what do i do
[02:52] <KenSentMe> If i do /window close on irssi, do i leave that channel too?
[02:52] <ootput> kishore, if that drive was present during ubuntu-installation, there may already be an entry in fstab
[02:52] <raf__> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:52] <raf__> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kishore: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  save to desktop and follow the instructions in the script
[02:52] <cd_rom> er, how can i install the packages i downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives? cause i just reinstall ubuntu and don't want to redownload them again?
[02:52] <ootput> kishore, please look at your /etc/fstab file
[02:52] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, navigate to the keymap you desire
 in the arch list or full
[02:53] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, select keymap from arch list
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:53] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, if it doesn't exist in arch, then check full
[02:53] <kishore> how to mount the drive in ntfs
[02:53] <raf__> kishore ---.sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:53] <raf__> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[02:53] <ootput> kishore, please pay attention to what others have suggested
[02:53] <ootput> kishore, grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[02:54] <kishore> ok
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kishore: You have been given several ways to do it..
[02:54] <cd_rom> is there any apt command that let me install multiple packages at one?
[02:54] <raf__> yer cdrom
[02:54] <raf__> use terminal
[02:54] <raf__> lol
[02:54] <cd_rom> ?
[02:54] <MenZa> cd_rom: sudo apt-get install package1 package2
[02:54] <ootput> cd_rom, most apt- tools accepts string data
[02:54] <MenZa> :)
 i choose arch list then qwerty then british standard and still 2 key presses to do 
[02:54] <r1h> raf__, do u have a command gtkdocize?
[02:55] <raf__> maybe
[02:55] <v4m21_ym> unikuser  r  u there ?
[02:55] <cd_rom> MenZa: i got few dozen of pakages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:55] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, is that the most suitable keymap?
[02:55] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[02:55] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, was this working before some incident?
[02:55] <r1h> raf__, could u check pls?
[02:55] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[02:55] <raf__> ok
[02:55] <raf__> h/o
[02:55] <cd_rom> and i point apt-update to install packages in the directory?
[02:55] <Captain_Fleming> Hi.
[02:55] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, which incident? ;)
[02:55] <cd_rom> can*
[02:56] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone here knows a prog for reading ext2 on a win32 box?
[02:56] <ootput> cd_rom, you can use dpkg -i
[02:56] <kishore> it is saying tat already monted but whn i tried to open it is saying
[02:56] <kishore> cannot able to open
[02:56] <cd_rom> ootput: i give it a shot
[02:56] <e-type> Captain_Fleming: there's some drivers out there, google knows them
[02:56] <ootput> cd_rom, but that's not really necessary, as apt-get install <package> should do
[02:56] <KenSentMe> Is it possible in irssi to be in a channel but don't have a window for that channel?
[02:56] <Captain_Fleming> e-type: thnx...
[02:56] <raf__> are u sure thats the name of it
[02:56] <raf__> ?
[02:56] <Captain_Fleming> e-type: Any help on terms to look for?
[02:56] <raf__> gtkdocsize?
[02:57] <e-type> Captain_Fleming: windows ext2 driver :p :p :p
[02:57] <ootput> cd_rom, how did you obtain these packages without specifying their installation?
[02:57] <Captain_Fleming> e-type: lol...
[02:57] <e-type> Captain_Fleming: gives them right on top :)
[02:57] <r1h> raf__, heres the error i  am getting
[02:57] <r1h> checking for gtk-doc >= 1.0...
[02:57] <r1h>   testing gtkdocize... not found.
[02:57] <synic> r1h: what are you trying to install?
[02:57] <raf__> yes
[02:57] <cd_rom> ootput: they are update packages, i just reinstall ubuntu
[02:57] <r1h> slab
[02:57] <raf__> i have that in synaptic
[02:57] <cd_rom> and don't want to redownload them again
 i logged into xgl session to check it out and it worked alright but keys where us layout in that session so i changed them to uk then when i logged back into normal gnome session i got message saying use x keys or gnome ones? i was told to use gnome so i did and now this
[02:58] <r1h> raf__, u have what?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Where are downloaded packages kept in Ubuntu?
[02:58] <raf__> no wait
[02:58] <raf__> i have the lib-gtk-doc
[02:58] <ootput> cd_rom, do you have another networked computer that you can use as a package repository?
[02:58] <raf__> i dont have gtk-doc
[02:58] <raf__> sorry
[02:58] <cd_rom> ootput: anyway, it seems to work
[02:59] <ootput> cd_rom, also, bear in mind that dpkg is smart enough to determine whether a package has already been downloaded
[02:59] <cd_rom> ootput: nope :)
[02:59] <cd_rom> i wish
[02:59] <raf__> u might wanna try to install
[02:59] <r1h> synic, im tring to install slab
[02:59] <raf__> gtk-doc-tools
 /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:59] <raf__> this may solve your problem
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks Paddy
[02:59] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs
[02:59] <cd_rom> ootput: really? lol, i just typed in sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[03:00] <cd_rom> isntalling..
[03:00] <cd_rom> installing*
[03:00] <ootput> cd_rom, dpkg doesn't handle dependencies or package-conflicts too well
[03:00] <synic> cd_rom: you're probably just reinstalling stuff now.
[03:00] <cd_rom> synic: yes
[03:00] <TooTallJones> hey folks, got a real simple question
[03:01] <cd_rom> ootput: they are old update packages so dependency solved, just have to reinstall them, that's all
[03:01] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, sorry mate, i'm not sure what you did there
[03:01] <TooTallJones> I just need to know what line to add on my fstab for a second(slave) cdrom  it's /dev/hdd
[03:01] <mwe> doesn't it just bail out if it's not satisfied?
[03:01] <synic> mwe: it does.
[03:01] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, I'm not too familiar with Gnome's handling of keymaps
[03:01] <frank_b> is it possible to have a keyboard shortcut for a specific aplication, not present in the default gnome keyboard shortcuts option?
[03:02] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, I work at the command-line mostly, and so I assumed that dpkg-reconfigure console-data would fix your problem
[03:02] <raf__> for what program frank?
[03:02] <frank_b> raf__, the dictionary
 no probs, it just real annoying see above the s in it
[03:02] <jamalz> !apt
[03:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:02] <raf__> have u cheked nautilous?
[03:02] <raf__> natiuls**
[03:02] <ootput> Paddy_EIRE, hehe
[03:02] <raf__> ughh i cant spell that one
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> nautilus
[03:03] <ootput> bbl
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> i think
[03:03] <frank_b> raf__, no. I'll see if I can see something about it there, then
[03:03] <frank_b> raf__, thanks
[03:03] <raf__> ok
[03:03] <TooTallJones> Actually I switched out my slave cdrom for a faster one, but it no longer mounts when I put a cd in
[03:03] <TooTallJones> after the switch
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: thanks.. I just copied all 450 packages to a second partition..   I can breath a little easier
[03:04] <e-type> frank_b: you can set buttons and commands in gconf editor for arbitrary keys and commands
[03:04] <frank_b> e-type, oh, thanks
 nice one, let me know if you fiqure out how to re-install them all with dependencies and stuff. my mates comp has no net connection and i would like for her to have sme stuff as me
[03:05] <Khamael> can I mount .cue (and .bin) files without burning them to a disc?
[03:05] <Shurique> is it possible to mount a HFS+ partition with both read and write support while booted from the live cd? mount doesn't seen to recognize the -t hfsplus option
[03:05] <frank_b> e-type, I'll look into it then. what's the command for gconf, by the way?
[03:05] <raf__> yes shurique
[03:05] <raf__> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[03:05] <raf__> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[03:06] <frank_b> raf__, wat should I look for in nautilus for keyvboard shortcuts?
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I would think a dependency would be included in the downloads.. and pointing your sources list to that drive/partition should do it
[03:06] <raf__> hmm let me see here..
[03:06] <Shurique> raf__: huh? why NTFS?
[03:06] <TooTallJones> this is my fstab line for my cdrom that isn't mounting /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom-1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:06] <raf__> ow u said hfs
[03:06] <raf__> my bad
 that sounds right, ive been trying to fiqure this out for ages
[03:07] <e-type> frank_b: gconf-editor and you needs apps -> metacity -> global keybindings and keybinding commands
[03:07] <e-type> need even
[03:07] <frank_b> e-type, thank you very much :)
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I was told I could edit the sources list to point to an internat repo just like the install cd
[03:07] <e-type> frank_b: ;)
[03:08] <Ktron> my /var/log/installer/syslog has been http://ktron.pastecode.com/3666 for over half an hour now (without change), and the graphical progress window says 'Detecting file systems...' Any ideas on what is wrong and how I might fix it?
so i can point to external hdd for e.g.
[03:08] <gimmulf> !imagemagick
[03:08] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: LEt me go make a backup of sources list, download a deb I dont have, put it in my other folder and try to install it from there..
 sounds cool
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> good luck
[03:10] <kishore> wot is local hard drive..
 what do u mean??
[03:10] <jamalz> is there any place for unsupported packages ?
[03:10] <kishore> i ve got  one program. and instructions in tat r save this in local hard drive
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[03:11] <kishore> sudo bash diskmounter
[03:11] <TooTallJones> has anyone had the LANG=en)US problem in cedega?
[03:11] <TooTallJones> en_US*
[03:11] <Ktron> damn
[03:12] <kishore> i ve got a diskmounter program
[03:12] <fildo> anyone have info on the ipw2100 ? im unable to make it associate..
[03:12] <kishore> sudo bash diskmounter ...
[03:12] <kishore> then its saying file cant fount
[03:12] <kishore> found
[03:13] <TooTallJones> How can I check what kind of cdrom I have so I know what to put into fstab
[03:15] <frank_b> e-type, done it. cool. thanks once again. linux rocks
[03:15] <Dimensions> can i use sony erricson as Gprs modem ?
[03:15] <e-type> TooTallJones: media should be mounted automatically when they appear, so your cdrom should automount
[03:15] <e-type> TooTallJones: don't mention it in fstab
[03:16] <e-type> fildo: does it find your network in a scan?
[03:16] <e-type> frank_b: sure ;)
 im sure thats possible but i cant even get access to mine just for music pics anything
[03:16] <TooTallJones> I had it working automatically, but I switched out for a faster cdrom
[03:16] <frank_b> :)
[03:16] <Dimensions> Paddy_EIRE:  how do i scan it ? i dont get it with hcitool dev
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[03:17] <Dimensions> :)
[03:17] <frank_b> e-type, :) bye
[03:17] <frank_b> bye all
[03:17] <e-type> TooTallJones: it should still automount if yr drive is working correctly
 did u try gnome phone manager
[03:17] <e-type> frank_b: :)
[03:18] <kishore> i hav mounted the drive.. but it is not showing the contents of it
[03:18] <Dimensions> no Paddy_EIRE i normally use shell
 oh
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> brb
[03:19] <fildo> e-type: yeh, but im unable to make it change channels
[03:19] <azcazandco> anyone know why synaptic would stop working?  I cannot even get into it :(
[03:19] <Dimensions> Paddy_EIRE:  where is Gnome phone manager ? i guess i have to download it or something ?
[03:19] <e-type> fildo: it should do by itself if you don't specify any channel
[03:20] <fildo> e-type:
[03:20] <fildo> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :
[03:20] <fildo>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[03:20] <fildo> n its sudo or root
[03:20] <fildo> even it i set it to auto
[03:20] <fildo> it returns me the same error
[03:20] <fildo> i can iwlist scan .. n find the AP.
[03:20] <fildo> i just took off encrpt. to see if it would associate, but still no cigar
[03:21] <h2> how do i make the default view list view in nautilus
[03:21] <azcazandco> h2: you will find it in the preferences menu when in nautilis
[03:21] <e-type> azcazandco: "repair" ?
[03:22] <azcazandco> e-type: well I cannot get into it
[03:22] <azcazandco> so am wondering where thinsg went wrong and if it can be fixed
[03:22] <e-type> fildo: your driver is apparently no okay
[03:22] <h2> azcazandco, i've looked and can't see it, i remember in an older version there was a behaviours tab or somethign that let me do it, i can't see it in dapper
[03:22] <e-type> azcazandco: what error does '$ sudo synaptic' give from terminal?
[03:23] <azcazandco> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:23] <Dimensions> Paddy_EIRE: u there brof ?
[03:24] <fildo>     configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ipw2100 driverversion=1.1.4 firmware=712.0.3:3:00000001 link=no multicast=yes wireless=unassociated
[03:24] <fildo>                 resources: iomemory:c2005000-c2005fff irq:11
[03:24] <e-type> fildo: what channel is yr ap using?
[03:24] <fildo> 11
[03:24] <e-type> fildo: my ipw2200 can't take that ;)
[03:24] <e-type> fildo: try a lower one
[03:25] <fildo> lol my mate next to me is doin n install right now
[03:25] <fildo> on 2200
[03:25] <fildo> asus
[03:25] <fildo> n it picked iit up in kubuntu install
[03:25] <fildo> lol
[03:25] <azcazandco> e-type: any suggestions?
[03:25] <e-type> fildo: well, mine can't take all channels that my ap can offer
[03:26] <fildo> hmm
[03:26] <fildo> ok i try
[03:26] <Dimensions> e-type: do u have any idea abt using mobile fone as Gprs modem
[03:26] <e-type> azcazandco: yeah, find out what libvte.so.4 is from and reinstall it
[03:26] <idefix> Fork  off  a  new
[03:26] <idefix>  incarnation of mount for each device. *what on earth is that supposed to mean?!?!*
[03:26] <e-type> Dimensions: sorry, not the slightest clue
[03:27] <azcazandco> okay I will look into it
[03:27] <azcazandco> thanks
[03:27] <e-type> azcazandco: libvte4 is missing
[03:27] <fildo> hmm still dosnt work
[03:28] <fildo> when i restart network it returns this
[03:28] <fildo> Error for wireless request "Set Frequency" (8B04) :
[03:28] <fildo>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
[03:29] <e-type> fildo: does '$ iwconfig <if> channel <N>' give that error for any N ?
[03:33] <fildo> yes
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents
[03:34] <e-type> fildo: sorry, don't know then
[03:35] <fildo> e-type: thnx dude anyways
[03:35] <e-type> fildo: my experience with my ipw2200 has been unstructured, sudden errors, things that are solved after rebooting, things I can't explain and all...
[03:35] <e-type> fildo: so I'd rather not talk bullshit to you ;)
 nice one
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Took a couple minutes but it will do what you want
 been looking for these answers for ages well sincs june
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Helping each other is how this all works
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> take care.. I gotta run..
why when i press the @ key twice do I get this symbol  if i press once then nothing happens
 never mind man thats no prob
[03:38] <jaym> how do i get a copy of network-manager without the bind dependeny?
[03:38] <jamalz> i can't see Linux ReiserFS  in partition type
[03:40] <jamalz> ?
[03:43] <poksi> hi
[03:44] <shawnr_> anyone know how to get sound working with wine/ie6/flash ?
[03:44] <poksi> hi
[03:44] <TooTallJones> I am getting this error on my second cdrom drive [17180767.900000]  hdd: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x57  ascq: 0x00
[03:46] <javiolo> hi
[03:46] <javiolo> I want to use ubuntu as thin client ? is that possible ?
[03:47] <jamalz> i can't see Linux ReiserFS  in partition type
[03:51] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure my sound
[03:51] <Kenzumi> somebody there ?
[03:51] <Kenzumi> a problem to format my hard drive
[03:51] <zsh> hi guys, apache keeps asking me whether i want to download a php file instead of displaying it. I'm running ubuntu dapper and i've tried everything on lamp page but it still acting wierd
[03:52] <baskew> you need to install the php-http
[03:52] <dr|zed> yeah. and you need to edit your apache conf also.
[03:53] <dr|zed> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[03:53] <dr|zed> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[03:53] <gerhard> hi all
[03:53] <dr|zed> that should feature in your conf somewhere.
[03:54] <zsh> i ran "sudo a2enmod php5" to enable php5 then sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:54] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my sound card is recognized but I cant get to hear anything...
[03:54] <zsh> so php5 is enabled
[03:55] <zsh> baskew, what is php-http? everything was running perfectly until i upgraded to dapper by the way
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> can someone tell me why the @ key displays nothing when pressed once and  when pressed twice also if i press @ once then press a letter i get  any suggestions as how to fix this
[03:55] <Drako60> anyone know of a problem with VIA chipset and the UDMA not working right on AM2 boards?
[03:56] <baskew> zsh: i had the same problem on my dapper box, I browsed all the php packages using synaptic, until i found this one im am not sure if that is the exact name
[03:56] <stjepan>  can anybody guess what icons are these: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/700_or/15.png ?
 edgy?
[03:57] <javiolo> I want to use ubuntu as thin client ? is that possible ?
[03:57] <ezenu> I often get errors saying "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy" -- How do I kill whatever is using it
[03:57] <dr|zed> it's that time of day where i shout http://xaraxtreme.org
[03:58] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my sound card is recognized but I cant get to hear anything...
[03:59] <rsk> phiber_optic, all cables plugged in?
[04:00] <rsk> phiber_optic, volume turned up?
[04:00] <phiber_optic> rsk
[04:00] <phiber_optic> yes
[04:00] <stjepan> Paddy_EIRE, SLED 10
 whats that
 looks good
 is it debian based
[04:02] <phiber_optic> lrsk I have a 6 dchannel on board sound card
[04:02] <phiber_optic> but it doesnt sound the 5 speakers only one
[04:04] <stjepan> Paddy_EIRE, Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10
[04:04] <doomik> Hello
 yeah i fiqured
[04:07] <phiber_optic> can somebody please help me
[04:07] <mastastealth> hey guys, I have this USB headset that I want to use as my primary sound device. THing is, Ubuntu seems to prefer using my sound card. The headset works, because every once in a while when I boot, the headphones work fine. So the thing is, how can I get Ubuntu to use em first, ALL the time?
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> can someone tell me why the @ key displays nothing when pressed once and  when pressed twice also if i press @ once then press a letter i get  any suggestions as how to fix this
[04:09] <phojourn> i ordered 50 disks from Ubuntu ShipIt, and after waiting a couple of months, I get a letter in the mail to tell me that a package had come into SA, waited in customs and eventually was auctioned to defray costs... that was the first indication i got that anything had come... Does anyone know how we can fix the South African Customs Department?
[04:10] <Linuturk_code> order less CD's ?
[04:10] <Linuturk_code> bribe and official?
[04:10] <Linuturk_code> an*
[04:10] <phojourn> lol
[04:10] <phojourn> anyone got a copy of the latest release they wanna give away?
[04:11] <rsk> ubuntu.com/download
[04:11] <phojourn> and one other question... can I use my HSDPA on ubuntu...
[04:12] <kashual> hi 2 all
[04:12] <Linuturk_code> phojourn, HSDPA?
[04:12] <kashual> :?
[04:12] <mastastealth> phojourn: HSDPA - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238993  ?
[04:13] <kashual> need any answers ....
[04:13] <mastastealth> go ahead kashual
[04:13] <kashual> i had try to browse windwos network
[04:13] <mastastealth> yea...?
[04:13] <kashual> samba and all other tools and plug in also ad ons are installed
[04:14] <mastastealth> and it doesn't work?
[04:14] <kashual> true
[04:14] <doomik> Where can I download addicional programs for ubuntu desktop ? ( if it passible ), or if you can answer the question does ubuntu desktop have tcl/tk package ?
[04:14] <kashual> only if i go using commands in shell
[04:15] <kashual> the grapihcal things don't display all correct
[04:15] <mastastealth> doomik: use synaptic, System -> Adminstration
[04:15] <Hexidigital> doomik::   use Synaptic
[04:15] <kashual> or any stupid
[04:15] <mastastealth> ok kashual, so you can see the computers from command line you say?
[04:15] <kashual> if i usin g nautilus for browsing in help with shell command it works fine
[04:16] <doomik> Ok thanks, I hope this will help me.
[04:16] <mastastealth> hmm...
[04:16] <phiber_optic> can somebody helop me please
[04:16] <kashual> very stupid
[04:16] <phiber_optic> my sound doesnt work
[04:16] <mastastealth> so you gotta use the command line...to get nautilus to see your network?
[04:17] <kashual> if i using nmblookup it display me all info i need
[04:17] <jpjacobs> !ask>phiber_optic
[04:17] <abhinay> DBO, i rebooted my system
[04:17] <kashual> if i using smbmount i can get win share mount
[04:17] <DBO> abhinay, wrong room =P
[04:18] <phiber_optic> jpjacobs, my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[04:18] <kashual> but if i usning for example smb4k with the same parameters it display me any stupid shit but not the right
[04:18] <kashual> what's wrong ?
[04:19] <mastastealth> that's odd, perhaps you can find something in the Wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[04:19] <mastastealth> there's a troubleshooting on the bottom
[04:19] <mastastealth> and just make sure you have Smaba set up right...for me, all I did was install samba, and I can see my network fine from nautlius
[04:20] <kashual> i had an dedicited network area ...all other are win xp clients and one controller (server host domain) runs win xp too and my ubuntu system which configured as server host domain desktop pc
[04:21] <kashual> yeah from nautilis it will work but smb4k for example it's an special extra app for brwosing mountig etc windows share
[04:21] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> can someone tell me why the @ key displays nothing when pressed once and  when pressed twice also if i press @ once then press a letter i get  any suggestions as how to fix this
[04:22] <mastastealth> Paddy_EIRE, maybe you need to setup your keyboard to a different localization?
[04:22] <kashual> phiber_optic is your snd device an soundblaster from creative labs ?
 i know this
[04:22] <phiber_optic> kashual, i tried loading the module
[04:22] <doomik> What kernel ubuntu desktop 6.06.1 LTS uses ?
[04:22] <phiber_optic> but in dmseg it doesnt even recognize the soundblaster card
[04:22] <mastastealth> kashual, I don't know much about smb4k, sorry :( but it sounds like it has to do with that specific app rather than samba
[04:22] <kashual> omg
[04:22] <phiber_optic> it is like it doest exist
 i am on uk qwerty although i could only choose out of the uk tree Uk International (with dead Keys)? or Dvorak
[04:23] <kashual> it exist an special cmd line tool for hw changing
[04:23] <phiber_optic> doomik dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $3 }'
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> it worked before
[04:23] <tanath> every time i log in i get a popup with this error message: http://pastebin.ca/149036
[04:23] <phiber_optic> kashual,  do u know it??
[04:24] <kashual> use this .... i don't remeber yet the name but i mean it name by sndconf
[04:24] <cryptic^zazeem> how do i see if im running a firewall?
[04:24] <phiber_optic> right now im trying with the onboard sound but the sound is recognized as 2 channel
[04:24] <kashual> or sndcofing
[04:24] <jbroome> cryptic^zazeem: unless you set one up, you're not
[04:24] <phiber_optic> if i can get it to 6 channel it will be good
[04:24] <phiber_optic> i wouldnt care about the soudn blaster
[04:25] <kashual> for running snd under kde or gnome with this card startig kmix or gmix
[04:25] <AlveKatt> Hi. I would like some help. ctrl-alt-f1 gives me nothing but black.
[04:25] <phiber_optic> kashual, my soundblaster card is not detected whatsoever
[04:25] <nate> Since komport is no long distributed with Dapper, what is a good replacement for X11 based serial connections?
[04:25] <kashual> it found your conf from doin by that cmdline tool
[04:26] <doomik> phiber_optic, Sorry but I don't have  ubuntu installed on my computer yet, I'm trying to find out what kernel ubuntu uses because it important to my modem driver...I read that he have some troubles with new kernels...
[04:26] <mtholdenss> http://www.vic.youthalive.org.au/exo.html
[04:26] <mastastealth> Alvekatt: You gotta have GRUB boot into a specific resolution I believe. I have the same problem on my laptop
[04:26] <uw1> hi all - i am starting to make a switch back to gnome from kde, but haven't decided to switch for sure - currently using whichever i feel like - there is only one thing i miss - does anyone know if it is possible to share the same mail folder for kmail and for evolution (think not, but maybe another GTK programme?) - in this case i could look at, send and receive mails on both programs (don't have IMAP though)?
[04:26] <tanath> cryptic^zazeem: try 'sudo iptables -L' and see what you get
[04:26] <cryptic^zazeem> ok
[04:26] <jbroome> doomik: 2.6.15-26-386
[04:26] <doomik> thanks
[04:27] <kashual> damn
[04:27] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: Have you found a detailed howto for it perchance?
[04:27] <cryptic^zazeem> tanath
[04:27] <phiber_optic> doomik, 2.6.15-26.46
[04:27] <kashual> phiber_optic this tool which i mean is provided by knoppix live cd too
[04:27] <doomik> ok
[04:28] <phiber_optic> ohh ok
[04:28] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: I think I have figured out that menu.lst needs to be edited. Butnot if I need to do more and what number is right for my resolution.
[04:28] <tanath> help, anyone? every time i log in i get a popup with this error message: http://pastebin.ca/149036
[04:29] <Shin_Gouki> hi!
[04:29] <mastastealth> Alvekatt: just edit your grub's menu.lst file, and on hte kernel that you boot you need to add a "vga=#"
[04:29] <mastastealth> im looking for a table of numbers for you atm
[04:29] <PhoneEater> hi, anybody familliar with installing soundbaster 16 ISA in Ubuntu 6.06LTS?
[04:29] <kashual> phiber_optic sry that i can't remember the name of it but using google and the knoppix sites for find out
[04:29] <Shin_Gouki> i need some help with my wlan! anybody good at this topic?
[04:29] <kashual> may be helps
[04:29] <phiber_optic> ok
[04:29] <phiber_optic> thanx anyway
[04:29] <lilbit> how does dapper do with dua core cpu's?
[04:30] <lilbit> dual core cpu's I meant to say
[04:30] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: Thank you, I really appreciate it.
[04:30] <frogzoo> AlveKatt: your best bet is to run 'vbeprobe' from grub
[04:30] <tanath> lilbit: "CPUs" isn't a contraction :P
[04:30] <lilbit> tanath, I'm sorry, please excuse my grammar
[04:30] <mastastealth> Alvekatt: here looks like the hexadecimals you can use - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=1333755#post1333755
[04:31] <Shin_Gouki> ATM im online using my eth0, but my wlan0 seems not workin
[04:31] <Shin_Gouki> the hardware works ok , but cannot conncet to AP
[04:31] <lilbit> tanath, this is why I work in IT, my first choice of being a romance novelist didnt pan out
[04:31] <kashual> if you still wait a moment i can say to you whats the name ...try to find it for you
[04:32] <tanath> lilbit: lol. appears to work fine on dual-cores...
[04:32] <PhoneEater> hi, anybody familliar with installing soundbaster 16 ISA in Ubuntu 6.06LTS?
[04:32] <AlveKatt> So, those settings wont affect the gnome environment?
[04:32] <AlveKatt> mastastealth:  So, those settings wont affect the gnome environment?
[04:32] <tanath> lilbit: google turns up people using them, but no probs...
[04:32] <eos> hi
[04:32] <mastastealth> Alvekatt: nope, it'll only affect the resolution of your full screen terminal sessions (like when you do ctrl-alt-f1).
[04:33] <mastastealth> You'll have a lot more lines if you choose higher resolutions :)
[04:34] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i got problems with my wlan card , hardware works fine but i can't connect to my AP(windows works) ideas?
[04:34] <mIRC-Melody> Hello! u bun 2
[04:35] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: Ergo, I just need to find one that my screen can manage.
[04:35] <lilbit> does dapper run better on INtel or AMD?
[04:35] <Qball> lilbit: no difference
[04:36] <lupine_85> depends on which kernel you install ;)
[04:36] <mastastealth> AlveKatt: I found this page too - http://shrimpworks.za.net/2005/01/   a good one to try I guess would be the 16 bit color 8006x600, which is vga=771
[04:36] <lilbit> Qball, ok
[04:36] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[04:36] <mastastealth> its quite low and ANY screen should support...
[04:36] <ishan> uy
[04:36] <ishan> hello
[04:37] <lilbit> anyone here using a Hetis 915 to run ubuntu?  I might buy one.  Last time used Hetis with breezy, breezy had issues with the sound chip
[04:37] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: Thank you, I have a widescreen laptop, but it should work with normal resolutions. I remember that it did before I managed to change it.
[04:37] <ZeronenoreZ> hey there may be a bug in ubuntu: when i download a package from http://gnome-look.org/ named<genome-clock-apple>and my system was done, become so so so slow? I'm a fresh man.now the problem solved:by reinstalled the ubuntu ;>
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> can someone tell me why the @ key displays nothing when pressed once and  when pressed twice also if i press @ once then press a the letter s i get  any suggestions as how to fix this
[04:38] <mastastealth> AlveKatt: yup, same here, I have a 17" widescreen laptop, I could use any of the regular ones
[04:39] <cute_bettong> how do i disable DMA?
[04:40] <ZeronenoreZ> no one answer :<
[04:40] <AlveKatt> mastastealth: There.I gather I need to reboot now. Thank you so very much for the help.
[04:41] <mastastealth> no prob AlveKatt :)
[04:41] <Juftus> Hello, folks! I seem not to be able to burn DVD's in Ubuntu Dapper. I insert a blank disc, answer "burn" when asked what I want to do but in the end (after the creation of the ISO file), it sais something like "burning error".
[04:42] <mr3vil> what's up guys?
[04:42] <brotakul> juftus: any details about the error?
[04:43] <Don_Gorgon> hi
[04:43] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[04:43] <Juftus> I tried the instructions on this site: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/burningdvd.htm - however, I have no program named 'dvdrecord'. Could that be the problem?
[04:43] <javiolo> I want to use ubuntu as thin client ? is that possible ?
[04:43] <drega> anyone setup mod_mono with dapper?
[04:44] <Juftus> brotakul: sorry, none for now :) I'm not using that computer right now and didn't write down the exact message.
[04:44] <babo> I can hear with my microphone, but I can't speak with it ... ?
[04:44] <babo> Can anyone help ?
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i tell ubuntu to use x settings in the gnome session instead of gnome settings
[04:45] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i have some questions
[04:46] <Shin_Gouki> it is possible now to buy 8GB big USB sticks ... can i plug this into a PC(without HD) and install ubuntu from CD on the USB stick?
[04:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Shin_Gouki, it's possible, yes.  But depending on your motherboard's BIOS you may or may not be able to boot from the USB drive.
[04:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Shin_Gouki, generally speaking, if the motherboard was made in the last year or 2 you should be able to.
[04:46] <mjr> yeah, you can install. Booting may or may not be an issue..
[04:47] <kashual> Shin_Gouki shure .....why not ....if you change grub to boot access from this device and your pc support this action you can do
[04:47] <jkelly2005> hello, im unable to import the wx module in ubuntu ppc. if i cd into /usr/bin and then do import wx, it works. what do i have to do to fix the problem?
[04:48] <Shin_Gouki> thats nice
[04:48] <Shin_Gouki> thx guys
[04:48] <kashual> :)
[04:49] <Shin_Gouki> still have a  prob with my wlan conncetion, hw is found+ok but cannot connect to my ap... ideas?
[04:49] <kashual> implemented anaconda as installler
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> how do i change to use x settings
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> instead of gnome
[04:49] <kashual> run from tty1 (console terminal) xconfig
[04:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, I don't think I understand what you mean.   Your X session will use x settings for general driver and resoultion options
[04:50] <towsonu2003> need a little help... using Dapper, I am looking for the option to display a warning when battery is almost in critical charge. but all I could find was the "shut down laptop when battery is critical" option under Battery Management. Do you know where that option is?? I can swear it was there in Breezy :confused:
[04:50] <ZeronenoreZ> hey dudes why the iso of wildowsxp always have a error and stoped when it about 599 mb as i use dd to make it?
[04:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, and gnome settings for gnome stuff like toolbars, etc.
 for keyboard
[04:50] <kashual> gnome or other desktop env follow this one
[04:50] <lupine_85> ZeronenoreZ: #arr-me-hearties might be more appropriate?
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, it _should_ be using your keyboard settings...   sounds like you just want to run a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <ZeronenoreZ> thux
[04:51] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, and select the keyboard output which fits you best.
[04:51] <Shin_Gouki> i need help with my wlan, hw works(also in winXP) but now i can't connect to my AP, ideas?
 i find this option no good as it takes me through a bunch of setups for graphics and a whole bunch of unnessacery stuff to fix keyboard, i dont wanna mess my settings as i finally got graphics to work
[04:53] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, if you go to System - Keyboard that doesn't solve your issue?
 the only keyboard option they have for uk in there is uk international with dead keys which is whats running now and its no good
thats not the fix, i need to kow how to get that prompt back up to either use x settings or gnome
[04:55] <StephenL> Is there a good way to map a users home directory to their active directory home directory at logon?
[04:55] <Shin_Gouki> Hello!i need help with my wlan, hw works(also in winXP) but now i can't connect to my AP, ideas?
[04:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, sorry sounds like the option you need doesn't exist then yet?   You should report a bug for it though, and they will try to fix it for edgy eft
[04:55] <ZeronenoreZ> no one answer me #arr-me-hearties :<
[04:55] <lupine_85> ...never mind
[04:55] <FunnyLookinHat> ZeronenoreZ, because it's just a silly channel, lol
[04:55] <lupine_85> perhaps #walk-the-plank ?
 no its there i just need to know how to get the option back up
[04:56] <ZeronenoreZ> :<
[04:56] <FunnyLookinHat> ZeronenoreZ, sorry but we don't provide windows xp support in a linux support channel.
[04:56] <ZeronenoreZ> yeah i just use VMWARE player
[04:57] <ZeronenoreZ> sometimes i need things run in windows ok
[04:57] <lupine_85> then buy a licensed copy
 it basically boils down to this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233834&highlight=uk+keyboard
[04:57] <FunnyLookinHat> ZeronenoreZ, I understand that, but we aren't windows experts... we're linux experts.
[04:57] <lupine_85> then you won't have to burn an iso
[04:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, give me a sec to read through that thread
[04:58] <Shin_Gouki> hm nobody here with "wlan" knowledge? :/
[04:58] <ZeronenoreZ> yeah i know i love linux so i use ubuntu but i'm fresh man .i could not do everything in linux
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> i dont really want to go through this "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" as it messed my stuff before
[04:59] <lupine_85> if you want to use non-free software, you should pay for it
[04:59] <lupine_85> microsoft isn't a charity, you knoe
[04:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, so he did exactly what I tol you to do...   heh.  Just choose UK Dvorak or whatver it is
[04:59] <lupine_85> know*
 nevermind man u dont get my question
[05:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Paddy_EIRE, ok, sorry.
[05:00] <rdz> hi all. how can i create an iso-image of a cd?
[05:00] <ZeronenoreZ> rdz may be u can't
[05:00] <lupine_85> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[05:01] <rdz> lupine_85, thanks
[05:01] <nathanael> So I have the correct entry in grub.conf for windows XP, but when I select it at boot, it shows "rootnoverify (hd0,0)    chainloader +1" but does not boot the XP partition. How do I restore my XP?
[05:01] <ZeronenoreZ> i have try many times
[05:01] <lupine_85> np
[05:01] <rdz> i knkow there is something with dd
[05:01] <rdz> *i knew
[05:01] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i need help with my wlan
[05:01] <FunnyLookinHat> !grub
[05:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Hmm that didn't link what i wanted.
[05:01] <nathanael> No, I lost Windows after installing grub!
[05:01] <milambert> hello all.
[05:02] <lupine_85> nathanael: you need the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:02] <rdz> lupine_85, i remember i saw once a command line with a additional option (foo=512) or somehting....
[05:02] <ZeronenoreZ> rdz, if u can make one call me and teach me!<noodleblog@gmail.com>
[05:02] <lupine_85> bs=512
[05:02] <rdz> lupine_85, yes
[05:02] <rdz> waht is it for?
[05:02] <lupine_85> specifies how much to copy at a time
[05:02] <rdz> lupine_85, ok many thanks
[05:02] <rdz> ZeronenoreZ, i'll let you knw if it works....
[05:02] <lupine_85> 512(bytes) is a sector, so a good default. Setting it to higher values may speed up the transfer
[05:03] <ZeronenoreZ> thux
[05:03] <Shin_Gouki> hello! i need help with my wlan, anybody?
[05:03] <lupine_85> #second-hand-parrots?
[05:03] <milambert> I using kde and i want to switch to gnome, so, i'm looking for a digikam like for gnome.
[05:03] <lupine_85> shin_gouki: what chipset?
[05:03] <lupine_85> and does the ap show up when you run sudo iwlist <interface> scan ?
[05:03] <Shinzetsu> how do I get QuickTime to work in Opera?
[05:04] <Andy_Alpha> Hi. I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, but when I type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get "Error: your X configuration has been altered". How can that be?
[05:04] <Shin_Gouki> lupine_85: hw works(also in winXP) but now i can't connect to my AP, ideas?
[05:04] <ZeronenoreZ> rdz, gnomebaker is an other way if dd dosen't work u can try this
[05:04] <Shinzetsu> Andy_Alpha: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the 'nvidia' driver when it asks
[05:04] <lupine_85> I just gave you two :)
[05:04] <lupine_85> see if iwlist can see the access point
[05:04] <mtholdenss> xgl easy to set up?
[05:04] <lupine_85> tell me what chipset and driver you're using
[05:04] <Shinzetsu> Andy_Alpha: if it screws up, run it again and choose vesa
[05:05] <Andy_Alpha> Shimzetsu I edited xorg.conf myself; it's nvidia not nv
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> Andy_Alpha: restart your X-Server using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:05] <Shin_Gouki> lupine_85 : where can i find that?
[05:05] <Shinzetsu> brb other client
[05:05] <lupine_85> open a terminal
[05:05] <Shin_Gouki> lupine_85 i think its AVM-Fritz WLAN stick
[05:06] <Shin_Gouki> have term open
[05:06] <lupine_85> first run "sudo iwconfig <interface> scan" (where <interface> is, e.g. wlan0)
[05:06] <Feldman> I'm having troubles with running the realplayer embedded player. When I try to play a video I get a message saying "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use an embedded player". What do I do to fix it?
[05:06] <milambert> Is a program like digikam exist for gnome?
[05:06] <Heda> hey, I've a microsoft optical with one thumb button - is there any way to have imwheel make that thumb button send a key sequence such as alt+tab
[05:06] <ruoso> hi,
[05:06] <lupine_85> pastebin the output
[05:06] <davin> back
[05:06] <doomik> I go to install ubuntu desktop, wish me luck 8)
[05:06] <ruoso> am I the only one who gets gaim segfaulting every two minutes?
[05:07] <ruoso> on dapper?
[05:07] <Andy_Alpha> Shinzetsu I did many times. The driver seems to be installed (I get the NVIDIA splash screen and everything...) but some things (like 3D acceleration) don't work as they should. Not to mention the firefox segmentation error which I can't get rid of.
[05:07] <davin> ruoso: guess so
[05:07] <picosam> hi; I have a PowerBook G4 5,6 (AlBook) with an ATI 9700 Mobility Card... I have Ubuntu Desktop 6.06 installed; XOrg works fine, but my screen flickers (you can't even notice it at the first look) as if the refresh rate is not right
[05:07] <Shin_Gouki> lupine_85: unrecognised wireless request "scan"
[05:07] <davin> Andy_Alpha: I had that too, I had the driver manually installed but no 3D Accel, try 'BinaryDriverHowTo/Nvidia' on wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <davin> Andy_Alpha: I had that too, I had the driver manually installed but no 3D Accel, try 'BinaryDriverHowTo/Nvidia' on wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <picosam> it becomes especially visible (and very annoying!) when you're looking at darker colors like gray or deep blue
[05:08] <davin> oops sorry for double post
[05:08] <Linuturk_code> I think I have a problem with fonts. Sometimes I get a funky square with strange characters in it when I view certaim documents or browse the ubuntu forums.
[05:08] <davin> net hang
[05:08] <lupine_85> Your drivers are b0rked then
[05:08] <lupine_85> are you using ndiswrapper?
[05:08] <ZeronenoreZ> what's the fuck Ctril-Alt-Backspaces it make me log off
[05:08] <lupine_85> ...it kills your X server
[05:08] <rdz> lupine_85, i get: "dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error"
[05:08] <lupine_85> !language >ZeronenoreZ
[05:08] <ZeronenoreZ> oh god
[05:08] <DBO> ZeronenoreZ, yeah, its sposed to do that
[05:09] <davin> ZeronenoreZ: resets X
[05:09] <lupine_85> you might need to be running as root
[05:09] <Andy_Alpha> davin Really? Yep that's how I installed the driver. I tried to get rid of segmentation fault using NoRenderExtension but it isn't working.
[05:09] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[05:09] <ZeronenoreZ> sorry for"fuck"
[05:09] <lupine_85> is /dev/cdrom the cd drive? You might have to use /dev/hd<b|c|d>
[05:09] <davin> Andy_Alpha: Open up synaptic and see if nvidia-glx is installed, I had the driver but the package wasnt 'checked'
[05:09] <DBO> ZeronenoreZ, please dont say it again, even to apologize
[05:09] <picosam> lupine: were you asking me?
[05:10] <lupine_85> no, rdz :)
[05:10] <Shin_Gouki> lupine_85: im runnig live cd... ideas concerning drivers
[05:10] <ZeronenoreZ> DBO, ok i will
[05:10] <rdz> lupine_85,what do you mean with no?
[05:10] <Andy_Alpha> davin it's installed and checked
[05:10] <lupine_85> I was talking to picosam ;)
[05:10] <picosam> lol! okay; so anyone please, am I doing something wrong? are the ati drivers not supposed to work "well" out of the box or something?
[05:11] <Andy_Alpha> davin Maybe I'm not doing something right. Device section < Option "NoRenderExtension" "Off"> right?
[05:11] <lupine_85> shin_gouki: not really. I'd imagine that it's using some builtin drivers (Ubuntu's wireless drivers are horribly out of date, in some cases)
[05:11] <lupine_85> it should work with ndiswrapper
[05:11] <Kragnerac> Hello, When I try to connect to MSN, it loads the buddy list, and suddenly just closes down. Anybody know what's wrong here?
[05:11] <lupine_85> but there's no guarantee
[05:11] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85, i use /media/cdrom0
[05:11] <lupine_85> sudo fsck ZeronenoreZ
[05:11] <lupine_85> error: read-only memory
[05:11] <Shin_Gouki>  lupine_85: how i install ndis?
[05:11] <picosam> also, how do I know if my xorg.conf has 3d accel enabled or not? and what does the dri section mean? what happens if I disable it, might this solve the problem? (I think I read this somewhere)
[05:11] <lupine_85> on the live cd, you don't :(
[05:12] <Kragnerac> sorry, wrong channel.
[05:12] <picosam> hmm... anybody please? :P
[05:13] <lupine_85> picosam: DRI is the direct rendering interface
[05:13] <rdz> lupine_85, i assume i use the correct device. when i take out the cd, dd says: no medium found. when i insert it again it still says: dd: reading `/dev/cdrom1': Input/output error
[05:13] <lupine_85> I *think* that ATI drivers make use of it
[05:13] <e-type> picosam: if glx module is loaded then opengl support is loaded, which will give you 3D rendering
[05:13] <Paddy_EIRE> i have a problem that ill paste into pastebin for anyone who fancies a look
[05:13] <Feldman> I'm having troubles with running the realplayer embedded player. When I try to play a video I get a message saying "could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use an embedded player". What do I do to fix it?
[05:13] <picosam> but what would you think would be the cause of my laptop's LCD screen "flickering" like that?
[05:13] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85 what's the i'm chinese sudo fsck ZeronenoreZ
[05:13] <e-type> picosam: depending on your card/driver it will be fast/slow
[05:13] <TLE_02> Hey I'm helping with danish translation, and I think I found a small error. Could somebody with english version check what the it reads in the settings menu in gnomine where you select size ?
[05:13] <picosam> I don't even know if flickering is the right explanation
[05:13] <rdz> lupine_85, the problem may lies somewhere else......
[05:13] <kyja> I find it strange I CANT login to mysql
[05:13] <kyja> why please tell me?
[05:14] <picosam> yeah I noticed that closing, opening windows etc. on my ubuntu is slower than I expected it to be
[05:14] <davin> Andy_Alpha: I have no idea, it set it up for me
[05:14] <lupine_85> Are you saving the .iso (the of= parameter) to a disc you have rw permissions to?
[05:14] <sproingie> picosam: you can tell if 3d accelleration is enabled with glxinfo | grep direct
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> kyja: what credentials are you using?
[05:14] <e-type> picosam: that's not 3D stuff
[05:14] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85, what's the "sudo fsck ZeronenoreZ" i'm chinese can't get through
[05:14] <lupine_85> ZeronenoreZ: I'm not helping you because you're trying to pirate copyrighted software.
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> here guys could u take a look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21647
[05:14] <rdz> lupine_85, yes i am root. i only can read /dev/cdrom as root
[05:14] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[05:14] <picosam> okay; good; I don't even need 3d accel, I don't use games; I just need to get rid of this flicker; it's like my lcd refresh rate is set to too low
[05:14] <Andy_Alpha> segmentation fault. what is it?
[05:15] <picosam> I know it's set to 60Hz, but Apple's website says that it doesnt' matter
[05:15] <kyja> fyrestrtr: I am administator I have also tried root as |mysql -u root -p I have tried being me as mysql -p
[05:15] <lupine_85> Andy_Alpha: the program tried to access some memory it's not allowed to
[05:15] <lupine_85> so the kernel killed it
[05:15] <picosam> or maybe I mis-understood? I know that in my Mac OS X installation there's no where to set the refresh rate on my laptop
[05:15] <sproingie> picosam: lcd's dont flicker when refresh is too low, they leave ghosts
[05:15] <Andy_Alpha> lupine thx
[05:15] <picosam> yeah, that's what I thought; so on earth am I experiencing??
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> kyja: by default, the root mysql user doesn't have a password. mysql -u root -p  -- when it asks for a password, just hit enter.
[05:15] <picosam> especially when I look at darker colors, it.... flickers!!! I don't know what word to use
[05:15] <sproingie> picosam: probably a redraw problem.  is it all apps doing thos?
[05:16] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85, no i just want to use Vmware :<
[05:16] <picosam> yeah it's the whole system
[05:16] <kyja> fyrestrtr: I will try thx
[05:16] <lupine_85> ...then you don't need to burn an iso
[05:16] <picosam> it's as if it's not refdrawing fast enough
[05:16] <lupine_85> I'm not stupif
[05:16] <lupine_85> stupid*
[05:16] <Bman> How can I install ubuntu from the CD without booting into the LiveCD?
[05:16] <rdz> lupine_85,  'cat /dev/cdrom1' doesn't work also...cat: /dev/cdrom1: Input/output error
[05:16] <picosam> I can see very very fine white horizontal lines moving fast
[05:16] <kyja> fyrestrtr: I am connected thx alot
[05:16] <ZeronenoreZ> but how can i use it without burn an iso
[05:16] <juliano> i want to open the port 554, there's any way to do it with command?
[05:16] <sproingie> picosam: that could be a driver problem, it could also be a hardware problem
[05:17] <picosam> but not really visible on white colors and very light ones
[05:17] <didrocks> Bman: download and install the Alternate CD
[05:17] <lupine_85> Hrmh. I'm not sure then, rdz. "It works for me". Maybe it's a dodgy CD? (unlikely)
[05:17] <sproingie> picosam: do you run any other OS on that machine?
[05:17] <picosam> but it works perfectly well on my Mac OS X installation
[05:17] <fyrestrtr> juliano: by default, all ports are open. You need something to listen on that port (like a server).
[05:17] <picosam> yes, I'm sure nothing's wrong with the hardware
[05:17] <rdz> lupine_85, i can play it with a cd player like xmms
[05:17] <picosam> my Mac OS X runs it perfect
[05:17] <ZeronenoreZ> where have?
[05:17] <sproingie> picosam: what kind of video hardware is it?  ati, nvidia?
[05:17] <Ng> anyone know where gnome's keyring is stored?
[05:17] <picosam> ati
[05:17] <picosam> 9700 Mobility
[05:17] <juliano> fyrestrtr, i do have a server, for this port, and i dont know why it's closed
[05:17] <picosam> rv310 I think? M11, something like that
[05:18] <lupine_85> I don't know then, sorry
[05:18] <picosam> the xorg.conf lists it correcetly
[05:18] <fyrestrtr> juliano: how do you know its closed?
[05:18] <Shin_Gouki> i asked before if it is possible to install ubuntu on 8GB usbstick , u all said , if motherboard is new YES, ... what happens if i take the usb stick , to other "new" pc?
[05:18] <fyrestrtr> picosam: lspci | grep VGA will tell you exactly.
[05:18] <picosam> it says M10/M11 and 9600/9700
[05:18] <picosam> lemme run it
[05:18] <lupine_85> Shin_Gouki: as long as you can tell the BIOS to boot from the USB stick, it should work OK
[05:18] <juliano> fyrestrtr, nmap -sT -O localhost
[05:18] <fyrestrtr> Shin_Gouki: this is not a supported configuration.
[05:18] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85, please tell me how could i run .exe in Ubuntu?
[05:18] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[05:18] <lupine_85> it won't work if the other PC names the drives differently
[05:18] <sproingie> picosam: which driver are you using?  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:19] <lupine_85> (e.g. if your / on pc 2 is /dev/sda1, and on the second it's /dev/hdb1, it won't boot)
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki>  lupine_85: u mean the USB drive?
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> juliano: is your listening server running? (ps aux)
[05:19] <lupine_85> yes
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki> ah ok
[05:19] <picosam> okay first glxinfo | grep direct gives me: direct rendering no and opengl renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:19] <lupine_85> sorry :)
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki> can i fix it?
[05:19] <sproingie> picosam: you have no 3d accel.  that probably won't help your 2d situation tho
[05:19] <picosam> driver is "1to"
[05:19] <fyrestrtr> picosam: are you using xgl?
[05:19] <picosam> oops
[05:19] <harisund> DBO: are you around?
[05:19] <Shin_Gouki> or create some variable script for that?
[05:19] <picosam> driver is "ati"
[05:19] <m_0_r_0_n> How do I get rid of the message ""The following packages have been kept back:  totem", when updating linux?
[05:20] <picosam> how do I know if I'm using xgl?
[05:20] <ZeronenoreZ> lupine_85, so please tell me how could i use Vmware?
[05:20] <selinuxium> anyone in here use SUSE as well I want the RPM for Novell VPN client to install on my Ubuntu Laptop.
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> picosam: well, if you are asking that, then you aren't :)
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> m_0_r_0_n: from a console, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <sproingie> picosam: hm yeah that's a pretty crappy driver.  you want to install the fglrx driver, assuming it will actually work on that card
[05:20] <juliano> fyrestrtr, yes, the streamming server is running
[05:20] <juliano> fyrestrtr, maybe the firewall is blocking it?
[05:20] <DBO> harisund, yes, whats up?
[05:20] <picosam> lspci | grep VGA produces: 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> juliano: I don't think so, as by default it doesn't block stuff. Are you sure its listening on the interface you are checking against?
[05:21] <m_0_r_0_n> fyrestrtr, I get the same message...
[05:21] <rdz> lupine_85, isn't it possible to extract an image of self burned audio cds? i tried also on another computer with linux and it doesn't work neither.....
[05:21] <sproingie> picosam: i have one of the two or so models that actually works perfectly with ati's linux driver ... unfortunately none of them are laptop cards
[05:21] <picosam> oh; which sounds wrong... because my card is 9700 M11
[05:21] <picosam> :( this problem has been for 1 month now and I can't solve it :( I wish I can
[05:21] <ZeronenoreZ> rdz, yeah i too
[05:21] <lupine_85> oh, an audio cd...
[05:21] <sproingie> picosam: they're both R350, which is all that really counts
[05:21] <lupine_85> not sure if you can copy one of those
[05:21] <picosam> is there a way to switch the driver to 9700 M11
[05:21] <picosam> oh so it doesn't matter
[05:22] <lupine_85> at least, I've never tried it
[05:22] <harisund> DBO! Hope I am not disturbing you. /quit
[05:22] <m_0_r_0_n> Why do I have to remove ubuntu-desktop as well when removing totem?
[05:22] <juliano> fyrestrtr, the port is not listening, but the streamming server is up and running... im sure of it
[05:22] <picosam> are you sure? I think my Mac OS X one says R360
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> picosam: the main thing is the RV number, the stuff between [ ]  doesn't really matter. You are on a laptop I take it?
[05:22] <picosam> yeah actually I'm pretty sure it does
[05:22] <lupine_85> totem is a part of ubuntu-desktop
[05:22] <sproingie> picosam: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> juliano: telnet to the port, does the server answer?
[05:22] <DBO> harisund, uhm... why the /quiting?
[05:22] <lupine_85> it's not a big deal, really - it doesn't remove anything else (ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package)
[05:22] <picosam> what am I going to end up installing like that?
[05:23] <picosam> is this going to upgrade it to R360 ?
[05:23] <harisund> DBO well I am logged in through Putty on my remote Linux machine (using irssi) and my local Ubuntu machine using Xchat... hence kind of messed up user ids ..
[05:23] <sproingie> picosam: oops that's for 3d.  nevermind, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:23] <lupine_85> however, you would be wise to re-install ubuntu-desktop before you perform an dist-upgrade
[05:23] <juliano> fyrestrtr, Connected to localhost.
[05:23] <juliano> Escape character is '^] '.
[05:23] <juliano> fyrestrtr, means it is or not?
[05:23] <picosam> oh so I shouldn't use the ati driver? I should use the fglrx one ?
[05:23] <sproingie> picosam: R350 is the chipset version on your card
[05:23] <DBO> harisund, ok, so whats up?
[05:23] <sproingie> picosam: yeah the ati xorg driver is really crappy
[05:24] <fredl> hi, I have a soundcard, it works fine, the volume control works too and muting does too when I play xmms. However, when I watch video's in my browser the volume control doesn't work. How can I fix this?
[05:24] <harisund> DBO I just finished inserting my second nic, and now eth0 is public, eth1 is supposed to be private. Do you remember you once told me that you were quite familiar with NAT/Masquerading?
[05:24] <picosam> okay; does the fglrx one support my card?
[05:24] <picosam> if R350 is my chipset version, then what's R360 ???
[05:24] <m_0_r_0_n> lupine_85, I dont like theses dependencies. Is there another distribution for people who want to build all programs by source?
[05:24] <DBO> harisund, sure, you are looking to do that now huh
[05:24] <rdz> does anybody know here, how to extract an iso-file from an audio cd?
[05:24] <sproingie> picosam: for 2d, probably.  for 3d, it's always a crapshoot with ati
[05:24] <sproingie> rdz: there's no such thing, audio cd's do not use iso9660 format
[05:24] <rdz> i cant imagine i have to switch to windows just for that.....
[05:24] <picosam> what does crapshoot mean?! I don't use 3D by the way
[05:24] <harisund> DBO well if you want me to do some basic reading before hand, I will go ahead and do that so that I will have a better idea of what you say ..
[05:25] <DBO> harisund, the easiest way to do that is with firestarter since you are only using one internal interface it can handle it
[05:25] <lupine_85> moron: yes. Gentoo
[05:25] <m_0_r_0_n> fine
[05:25] <rdz> sproingie, ok but how can i extract an image of an audio-cd?
[05:25] <harisund> so firestarter is a X11 application? GTK+ or QT? Or is it command line?
[05:25] <lupine_85> !gentoo > m_0_r_0_n
[05:25] <sproingie> rdz: you're looking for a "ripper".  there's literally dozens of those, i don't know which to recommend offhand.  cdparanoia is decent, but commandline only
[05:25] <DBO> harisund, its gtk
[05:25] <juliano> fyrestrtr, yes, telnet aswer
[05:25] <fredl> is there some way to control the volume for the mpg mozilla plugin?
[05:25] <m_0_r_0_n> lupine_85, thanks
[05:25] <rdz> sproingie, i am NOT looking for a ripper
[05:26] <lupine_85> be warned, compiling kde or gnome from source takes a good day 1/2
[05:26] <sproingie> rdz: you are looking to image an audio cd.  you want a ripper.
[05:26] <picosam> by the way sproingie, aptitude search xorg-driver-fglrx produces a blank result
[05:26] <harisund> DBO ok so I am assuming it needs root permissions to run. Can I do gksudo with X-forwarding through SSH?
[05:26] <juliano> fyrestrtr, returned password invalid
[05:26] <DBO> harisund, yes that should work I imagine
[05:26] <m_0_r_0_n> lupine_85, I can be very patient :-)
[05:26] <rdz> sproingie, but is it then a 1-to-1 copy of the cd?
[05:26] <lupine_85> and then you realise you've forgotton to include support for something (ipv6 in my case), and you have to start again!
[05:26] <harisund> DBO I just looked up firestarter's web sites. The screen shots say I can easily share the internet. I am going to have a look. Thanks ...
[05:26] <sproingie> rdz: audio cd's do not have filesystems.  iso is short for iso9660
[05:27] <lupine_85> on the bright side, you could save several seconds a day with your custom-built, hyper-optimised desktop ;)
[05:27] <rdz> sproingie, so how can i get an image of an audio cd?
[05:27] <m_0_r_0_n> lupine_85, that's a good way to learn everything about linux :-)
[05:27] <sproingie> rdz: the .wav files you get from a ripper are in PCM format so yes, they are a bit-for-bit copy of the CD.  there is nothing that takes single images of an audo cd, audio cd's have no filesystem
[05:27] <lupine_85> oh, definitely
[05:28] <lupine_85> personally, I prefer to break something and then try to fix it :)
[05:28] <sproingie> rdz: i suspect there's some fancy rippers that will rip the whole thing as one .wav, which is an image of sorts
[05:28] <fredl> my audio is muted and I still hear the sound play when I log in/log out, how do I fix this?
[05:28] <rdz> sproingie, hm... that can't be. a friend of mine, who made the cd, has it as nrg.imagagile
[05:28] <DBO> harisund, otherwise you just configure DHCP like here http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_dhcp, then we use iptables to enable masquerading
[05:29] <sproingie> picosam: i think you may need to enable universe/multiverse.  easiest way to do this is with synaptic in the menus somewhere
[05:29] <rdz> sproingie, i don' want waves, i just want one single image as one file
[05:29] <harisund> ah yes DBO .. the Gentoo Doc page was quite handy as well.
[05:29] <fredl> does totem play through esd?
[05:29] <rdz> sproingie, where all track marks and such are at the correct place
[05:29] <fredl> or do I need to tell it to use esd?
[05:29] <sproingie> rdz: nero might have a single-image thing for cd's.  i don't know of any for linux.  at any rate, a 44.1kHz stereo PCM .wav is pretty much a bit-for-bit copy of a cd track
[05:29] <rdz> sproingie, i really wana have a backup of it. not just a copy
[05:30] <picosam> sproingie: are u sure the fglrx driver is available for PowerPC ?
[05:30] <sethk> fredl, if the sound server is running it will be used automatically
[05:30] <sethk> fredl, you don't need to tell each app about it
[05:30] <sproingie> picosam: oh this is a *ppc* mac?  no, ati doesn't support it
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[05:30] <lupine_85> sethk: depends on the app
[05:30] <fredl> sethk - I have the audio muted and still everything makes sound, any idea how to fix that?
[05:30] <sproingie> picosam: you'll probably have to ask around on linux-ppc specific groups, i know nada
[05:30] <picosam> yes, it's a PowerBook G4 (AlBook 5,6)
[05:30] <rdz> sproingie, no,because then always if oyu burn it again, you have to care about pauses and such.
[05:31] <lupine_85> some will work ok. many won't. a few, you'll need to disable esd to get working
[05:31] <picosam> hmm... okay, may you please guide me to one of those groups? are there IRC channels?
[05:31] <sproingie> rdz: yep, it sucks.  good rippers take those into consideration, i'm sure cdparanoia does
[05:31] <DBO> harisund, if you run into any issues let me know, we might move to #ubuntu-offtopic though because I dont really have the attention to keep track of htis crazy channel right now
[05:31] <rdz> i cannot imagine that there isn't a proper method than just rip wavefiles on linux
[05:31] <fredl> sethk - it appears that when I simply click the mute key, all sound is gone, but if I mute PCM only there's still audio, what else can I mute?!?!
[05:31] <sproingie> rdz: you might be able to dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/my/image/file
[05:31] <hlabs> guys is there any way in ubuntu that would convert video to flash video
[05:31] <sproingie> rdz: but i don't see that working for audio cds
[05:31] <sethk> fredl, sometimes there is a PCM input as well as a PCM output
[05:32] <sethk> fredl, try muting both
[05:32] <rdz> sproingie, that is what i ve been testing all the time
[05:32] <harisund> DBO no problem... everything looks smooth. Just one quick questions. Does firestarted modify the iptables ultimately? Because in the end I would like to see what iptables chains/rules were modified, written
[05:32] <rdz> sproingie, it doesn't work.....
[05:32] <fredl> sethk - on alsamixer there's only PCM and PC Speaker in the Playback tab
[05:32] <DBO> harisund, yes it does change everything, you will probably have a hard time figuring out what all it did, but I can tell you what specific rules would be used to configure very basic NAT
[05:32] <sethk> fredl, what about the other tab(s)?
[05:32] <rdz> but still: how can i make a 1-to-1 copy of a cd without having to go over wavfiles?
[05:32] <erUSUL> harisund: yes all firewalls in linux do they jobs via iptables
[05:32] <hlabs> hey guys how can i convert my video to flash format.
[05:33] <harisund> DBO ok ... I read about iptables and all that... so what is the file that ultimately contains all iptables rules?
[05:33] <fredl> sethk - in Switches there's Surround/Center/LFE/Side
[05:33] <DBO> harisund, sudo iptables --list
[05:33] <rdz> hlabs, have a look to mplayer and libavformat
[05:33] <lupine_85> harisund: there isn't a file
[05:33] <harisund> Thanks a lot DBO ... you hvaen't seen the last of me :)
[05:33] <DBO> harisund, that will dump them all into a terminal
[05:33] <erUSUL> harisund: 'sudo iptables -L | less' to see the rules corrently in use
[05:33] <fredl> sethk - it appears that when I unselect 'LFK' also the unmuted sound disappears.
[05:33] <lupine_85> you can use iptables-save and iptables-restore to create and use one
[05:33] <fredl> sethk - any idea what LFK is?
[05:33] <sethk> fredl, no, let me look at something, but off hand, no
[05:34] <sproingie> rdz: i think cdrdao does full image audio cd copies too, so possibly k3b does as well
[05:34] <fredl> Oops, I said it wrong, when I unselect 'Side' all sounds go away
[05:34] <fredl> and it's LFE, not LFK
[05:34] <sproingie> rdz: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Duplicate_Audio.html
[05:34] <rdz> sproingie, thanks i'll have alook
[05:34] <hlabs> isnt there any software that would allow me to do so
[05:34] <sethk> fredl, that sounds vaguely familiar ... give me a minute, perhaps it will come to me.  :)
[05:35] <fredl> sethk - Hmm, when I have the 'Center' option selected, muting also works only half
[05:36] <sethk> fredl, odd
[05:36] <fredl> how bizarre...
[05:36] <sproingie> while we're gabbing about audio, anyone know how to make the realtek audio on an asus k8n-e work for both headphone and coax spdif at the same time?
[05:37] <fredl> sproingie - hah! I wish I got spdif working on my soundcard ;)
[05:37] <lupine_85> a cron and logwatch question...
[05:37] <fredl> this HDA Intel card *should* be able to do about anything.
[05:38] <sproingie> fredl: i convinced it to work with lots of fiddling around, but so far it's one or the other
[05:38] <krizzer> how do i install java and flash
[05:38] <lupine_85> I've got a cronjob looking like: 0 05 * * * logwatch --mailto nick@lupine.me.uk
[05:38] <lupine_85> and it doesn't run
[05:38] <lupine_85> the same command on cli works fine
[05:38] <lupine_85> any suggestions?
[05:38] <fredl> sproingie, well it's those damn soundcards getting so tricky these days!
[05:39] <sproingie> fredl: hardly.  this is a realtek ac97, the single most common sound chipset there is, and it hasn't changed in many years
[05:39] <sproingie> fredl: ALSA is just a steaming pile of doo
[05:40] <rdz> sproingie, i totally agree
[05:40] <fredl> you think so? well I kinda like it since I even got my TV tuner's audio to work with it.
[05:40] <eyequeue> lupine_85, in one spot, cron lines have an extra parameter (user to run as, i belive"  could be an issue there?
[05:40] <rdz> sproingie, tell me someone who knows every swith in the alsamixer and whatit is for.....
[05:40] <fredl> now if only tvtime etc. could be convinced to use the alsa audio driver :)
[05:41] <lupine_85> I've got a line below... 0 06 * * * ~/update-repo.sh which works fine
[05:41] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85  try to add an exec
[05:41] <sproingie> if only alsa could be complete enough of a system to get rid of the need for hacks like esd and arts
[05:41] <lupine_85> (this is the root crontab, btw)
[05:41] <jake1> ok i'm having some problems getting my wireless card working
[05:41] <lupine_85> exec?
[05:41] <eyequeue> lupine_85, you also could try throwing double quotes around your command line, so it reads it as ine parameter
[05:41] <eyequeue> lupine_85, one parameter
[05:41] <lupine_85> ok, will do :)
[05:41] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85   how did you add that cron job?
[05:41] <lupine_85> crontab -e
[05:41] <sproingie> eyequeue: that definitely won't work
[05:41] <jake1> during installation it found the wireless card and the driver, however it did not find my AP and punching it manually does not help
[05:42] <cdavis> how do you install the kernel source so I can build the cisco vpn client?
[05:42] <jake1> and attempting to configure after booting ubuntu does not help either
[05:42] <jake1> any ideas
[05:42] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85    ok then --> 0 5 * * * exec logwatch --mailto nick@lupine.me.uk
[05:42] <eyequeue> sproingie, i got away with it once, somewhere, but have had to write other longer things as a script i'd then invoke from cron
[05:42] <rdz> cdavis, apt-cache search linux-headers
[05:42] <jake1> it's the Broadcom 4318 Wireless Card
[05:42] <lupine_85> cdavis: you probably only need the headers: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:42] <rdz> and then look for the suitable ones (uname -r)
[05:42] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85   what cron do u use?
[05:43] <lupine_85> jake1: try blacklisting the bcm43xx driver and using ndiswrapper
[05:43] <jake1> i looked it up in the ubuntu forum but didn't get anything
[05:43] <sproingie> eyequeue: it's a good idea in general, i typically use a ".job" suffix for those
[05:43] <lupine_85> erm, the default :)
[05:43] <jake1> lupine_85 how do i do that
[05:43] <lupine_85> will try the exec, anyway
[05:43] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85  whats the default ?
[05:43] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper
[05:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:43] <`richiefrich`> dcron ?
[05:43] <lupine_85> will try to find out..
[05:43] <eyequeue> sproingie, .job, nice idea, i'll start stealing it if you don't mind :)
[05:43] <mtholdenss> http://www.local6.com/spotlight/9717727/detail.html
[05:43] <StephenL> Every time I install ubuntu on any machine I always get the Error:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)  Whenever I try to do an apt-get update
[05:44] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85   vixie-cron . dcron   ?
[05:44] <Lattyware> Hey, are there any tools for monitering your bandwidth useage?
[05:44] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[05:44] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85   theres a bit of a difference
[05:44] <cdavis> lupine_85, and where does it install them to?
[05:44] <lupine_85> man cron says vixie cron
[05:44] <baidu> mrtg
[05:45] <sproingie> eyequeue: go for it.  if you want the whole picture, .job files are usually themselves just wrappers that check for run status, add log entries, then exec the actual file (which is arbitrarily named whatever)
[05:45] <lupine_85> not sure where the crontab file goes
[05:45] <lupine_85> not in ~
[05:45] <sproingie> eyequeue: i had some delusion of standardizing those into a standard format, but for now they're just scripts
[05:45] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85    u might need a  "user"  name in there to .. i use dcron
[05:45] <lupine_85> the second command doesn't
[05:45] <lupine_85> that runs fine
[05:46] <lupine_85> I'll try exec; if that doesn't work, I'll try quotes
[05:46] <lupine_85> thanks for the suggestions :)
[05:46] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85 no i mean in the cron job u might need to add the  "user name"  and whats the log say ?
[05:46] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85 /var/log/ ??
[05:46] <lupine_85> the second cron job works fine without a user name
[05:46] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: user crontabs do not use the user entry, that's for file-based crontabs in /etc/cron.d
[05:47] <lupine_85> I've never been able to find the cron log (assuming it's even making one)
[05:47] <`richiefrich`> sproingie all depends
[05:47] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: doesn't depend, that's how vixie cron works
[05:47] <lupine_85> no cron.log, at the very least
[05:47] <marceloquai> how can i see other rooms?
[05:47] <`richiefrich`> sproingie  see i  use dcron
[05:48] <lupine_85> marceloquai: /window x ?
[05:48] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: probably a superior cron.  may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the loins of paul vixie
[05:48] <cdavis> my binary says make command not found, isn't that what gcc is?
[05:48] <lupine_85> make runs gcc
[05:48] <lupine_85> it isn't gcc
[05:48] <cdavis> o
[05:48] <marceloquai> lupine_85 are you asking for my kind of os?
[05:48] <cdavis> lupine_85, thanks
[05:48] <jake1> how do i blacklist the bcm43xx
[05:48] <jake1> ?
[05:49] <sproingie> cdavis: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:49] <lupine_85> marc: I'm giving you a possible command to try
[05:49] <picosam> no help on ppc channel :( is there anyway I can get in touch with the ati driver developers?
[05:49] <lupine_85> jake1: add the line "blacklist bcm43xx" to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist command
[05:49] <sproingie> picosam: hold on, i'm having a laughing jag
[05:49] <picosam> :)
[05:49] <marceloquai> ah ok
[05:49] <sproingie> picosam: no.  ati is notoriously unresponsive to developers
[05:49] <StephenL> Every time I install ubuntu on any machine I always get the Error:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)  Whenever I try to do an apt-get update
[05:49] <`richiefrich`> sproingie i never said it was"superior" i was giving options and suggestion..
[05:49] <lupine_85> a laughing JAg?
[05:49] <DaveWest> anybody here use evolution with exchange server?
[05:49] <lupine_85> cool :)
[05:50] <StephenL> Anyone know a fix for that?
[05:50] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: i'm guessing he had the cron that came with ubuntu
[05:50] <`richiefrich`> sproingie and i dont know what that is.. thats whay i asked
[05:50] <lupine_85> StephenL - corrupted Packages.gz, presumably. Try a different server
[05:50] <lupine_85> (maybe ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?)
[05:50] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: vixie cron.  it's pretty much ubuquitous
[05:51] <StephenL> lupine_85:  I've tried the uk...I'll try the ca.
[05:51] <eyequeue> i think ca and  us are the same machine
[05:51] <`richiefrich`> ubiquitous*
[05:51] <lupine_85> don't really care which version, though ;)
[05:51] <rdz> i modified /etc/groups and i wonder what i need to do in order to make the changes take effect
[05:52] <eyequeue> rdz, relog
[05:52] <lupine_85> rdz: should affect all new logins
[05:52] <rdz> eyequeue, thanls
[05:52] <sproingie> `richiefrich`: yah, my typing gets confused on #ubunquitous :)
[05:53] <StephenL> Still getting same errors with ca.archive.ubuntu.com.
[05:53] <jake1> lupine_85 restart after that???
[05:53] <maxush> okay, my kubuntu installation is locking up when i select an option at the first menu
[05:53] <sproingie> StephenL: they're the same machine.  try .uk
[05:53] <sproingie> s/\.//
[05:53] <picosam> so you guys maybe anyone over here (in 860+) users has a PowerBook ?!?! :)
[05:53] <StephenL> sproingie:  Tried uk. and I get the same problem.
[05:53] <lupine_85> you don't need to, but it's cleaner
[05:53] <maxush> 'start or install kubuntu' freezes
[05:53] <picosam> maybe one can help me by showing me his XOrg.conf file on  his PowerBook or something?
[05:54] <picosam> I may be able to figure out somewhere that needs to be configured
[05:54] <eyequeue> picosam, was that the one recalled for burning batteries?
[05:54] <sproingie> StephenL: welcome to the ubuntu archives.  they have some serious problems
[05:54] <StephenL> Very frustrating.
[05:54] <lupine_85> I'm using gb and have no problems
[05:54] <picosam> no, it wasn't
[05:54] <sproingie> that little update widget just stopped functioning for me
[05:54] <picosam> PowerBook, not MacBook Pro
[05:54] <picosam> AlBook 5,6
[05:55] <sproingie> i hit "install updates" and it just refreshes the list of updates
[05:55] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[05:55] <Andy_Alpha> I get "command not found" for  build   (I'm trying to  build-essentials). How do I fix this?
[05:55] <eyequeue> picosam, i just knew they both had "book" in them
[05:55] <sproingie> i can deal with having to drop into aptitude, but i don't like the system rot going on there
[05:55] <picosam> :)
[05:55] <kashual> bye s ee y ah laters
[05:55] <kashual> 2 all
[05:55] <lupine_85> Andy_Alpha: build-essential is a package
[05:55] <picosam> the other one is an intel processor anyway
[05:55] <picosam> I would have have just used the fglrx driver
[05:55] <lupine_85> which you install using apt-get or synaptic or something
[05:55] <picosam> but this one's a PowerPC
[05:56] <lupine_85> e.g. aptitude install build-essential
[05:56] <Andy_Alpha> lupine_85 I know. I installed it with synaptic. What do I do now?
[05:56] <StephenL> Funny enough...I'm trying to install build-essential but I can't because of the error I'm getting.
[05:56] <lupine_85> nothing. You should now be able to compile packages from source
[05:56] <`richiefrich`> lupine_85 u like aptitude :P
[05:56] <sproingie> lupine_85: you're probably going to have to tell him to use sudo
[05:56] <lupine_85> just follow the documentation in the README or INSTALL doc that came with the source code
[05:56] <eyequeue> Andy_Alpha, it is a meta=package, pulls in many others.  "build" isn't a command within it
[05:56] <lupine_85> `richiefrich`: not really
[05:57] <jake1> errr..... lupine_85 i added the bcm43xx to the blacklist, but aren't i suppose to now use a different driver
[05:57] <jake1> ???
[05:57] <lupine_85> yes, ndiswrapper
[05:57] <picosam> so here's my config file
[05:57] <picosam> http://pastebin.com/775725
[05:57] <sproingie> StephenL: you'll probably just have to play musical mirrors for a while
[05:57] <picosam> maybe I should switch Generic Monitor to my apple lcd monitor? but how do i know which driver it would want?
[05:57] <lupine_85> It wraps round your windows drivers to get them to work
[05:57] <jake1> but where do i specify that as my driver?
[05:57] <sproingie> StephenL: maybe za has a good mirror, it's where shuttleworth is from :)
[05:57] <lupine_85> (use the latest drivers downloaded from the website)
[05:57] <lupine_85> ok, install ndiswrapper
[05:58] <jake1> i cnt get online to do that
[05:58] <StephenL> hehehe.  Ok, Thanks.
[05:58] <`richiefrich`> jake1 arent u online now?
[05:58] <jake1> yes, but i have no way of getting the file from here to there
[05:58] <`richiefrich`> what do u mean
[05:58] <`richiefrich`> wget
[05:59] <shawnr_> anything better than GnuCash... or easier to use ?
[05:59] <lupine_85> It's on the CD as ndiswrapper-utils and ndiswrapper-source, I think
[05:59] <sproingie> !u
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <alexandra> is there any way to reach my disks using live cd
[05:59] <jake1> i'm on a different computer
[05:59] <`richiefrich`> ftp... scp
[05:59] <lupine_85> (never used ndiswrapper personally)
[05:59] <`richiefrich`> jake1  and... ?
[05:59] <`richiefrich`> jake1 u are on windwS?
[05:59] <Andy_Alpha> Great, I thought I can just type build-essential and I'm redy to go.  Is there a link which would explain to me how do I compile packages from source?
[05:59] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure sound blaster live 5.1 in dapper?
[05:59] <jake1> no
[05:59] <jake1> OS X
[05:59] <rdz> hey guys, lupine_85, sproingie: k3b (and what ever it uses as a backend) is able to create an imagefile of an audio cd..... thanks a lot for your patience
[05:59] <shawnr_> anything better than GnuCash... or easier to use ?
[05:59] <lupine_85> np rdz :)
[06:00] <lupine_85> glaD you got a solution
[06:00] <jake1> but either way i can get the file on this machine and then i need to somehow get the file over to that machine
[06:00] <jake1> which i cnt do right now cuz i have no way to transfer the file
[06:00] <`richiefrich`> jake1 then..  why cant you dronp to a "teminal"
[06:00] <lupine_85> jake1: you can install ndiswrapper from the CD
[06:00] <jake1> ok... thanx... that is what i was wondering
[06:00] <lupine_85>  you can try the drivers that came with your wireless card, though they might not work
[06:00] <nikin> is there a way to set a modern TFT monitor to 1bpp using X?
[06:00] <lupine_85> it's usually best to use the latest ones you can get your hands on
[06:01] <jake1> lupine_85 it's built in i think i need to go to Acers site and get the drivers
[06:01] <lilbit> anyone here used the ATI 200 chipset with ubuntu
[06:01] <Linuturk_code> shawnr_, I use gnucash, and I find it really easy to use. Read up on the documentation some
[06:01] <shawnr_> Linuturk_code, which version do you have installed ?
[06:01] <Linuturk_code> the one from the repos
[06:01] <Linuturk_code> 1.8 something
[06:02] <shawnr_> ew, i can barely read the font in that thing lol...
[06:02] <picosam> alright I changed the UseFBDev value to false; the desktop redraws faster, I can already see; but the flickering is till there :(
[06:02] <Ramunas> is it safe to upgrade?
[06:02] <lupine_85> once you've got ndiswrapper installed (package ndiswrapper-utils, or just the latest from the internet), ndiswrapper --help will tell you the rest of what you need to know
[06:02] <Andy_Alpha> how do I get GCC working?
[06:02] <Ramunas> xserver-xorg-core is in updates list, I've heard there were some problems, so is it safe to upgrade?
[06:02] <Linuturk_code> shawnr_, well, i'm sure that's a minor thing. there is a gnucash irc channel on Gnome net, and they are really helpful
[06:03] <lupine_85> ok, andy_alpha. What are you trying to compile?
[06:03] <gnomefreak> Andy_Alpha: install it
[06:03] <`richiefrich`> Andy_Alpha explain what you mean by worknig?
[06:03] <elias_> what is the best supported wlan chipset in dapper? where everything just works.
[06:03] <alexandra> is there any way to reach my disks using live cd?
[06:03] <lupine_85> normally whatever it is will come with a makefile, so you just type "make" to compile it
[06:03] <lupine_85> elias: atheros
[06:03] <shawnr_> Linuturk_code, i just found the 2.0 debs with the Gnome Human gtk2.0 standard
[06:03] <Andy_Alpha> a program of mine... hello world... nothing system related
[06:03] <shawnr_> should be alot better
[06:04] <gnomefreak> Andy_Alpha: gcc -o file.c file
[06:04] <Andy_Alpha> I just need C libraries.. that's all
[06:04] <Linuturk_code> shawnr_, i'm waiting for the repos to be updated
[06:04] <lupine_85> oh, in that case you need to write your own makefile, or specify all the libraries and stuff yourself
[06:04] <gnomefreak> its been a while but i think thats it
[06:04] <lupine_85> man gcc
[06:04] <m_0_r_0_n> No package 'libxml-2.0' found altlhough libxml2-dev is already the newest version. There are a lot of packages containing the libxml string, but I cant find the needed libxml-2.0 package
[06:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[06:04] <picosam> okay something else; maybe I need to set more options in my Device section?
[06:04] <shibby> hi someone could help me, I have a problem with my USB port, they dont work 5 minutes after the boot... what can i do ?
[06:05] <picosam> like HSync, VRefresh and "MergedDPI" and all those? is there a tool that can detect these things for me?
[06:05] <m_0_r_0_n> destroy the usb stick
[06:05] <EnsignRedshirt> How do I change the default file permissions of the files that I create?
[06:05] <shawnr_> chmod
[06:05] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: man umask
[06:05] <Andy_Alpha> lupine_85 Is there a link which explains how to do that (my own makefile and all)
[06:05] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: Thanks, umask sounds familiar.
[06:05] <shibby> nobody got a problem with USB and ubuntu?
[06:06] <lupine_85> I've no idea
[06:06] <shawnr_> shibby, nope
[06:06] <shawnr_> shibby, whats the problem?
[06:06] <rdz> lupine_85, hahah, you know what k3b does? it just creates wave-files from the cd.....
[06:06] <lupine_85> shiby: all my usb devices work fine
[06:06] <lupine_85> rdz: lol...
[06:06] <lupine_85> nm
[06:06] <shibby>  my USB port dont work 5 minutes after the boot... what can i do ?
[06:06] <jake1> i'm using the alternate installer....
[06:06] <rdz> it seems that is the only way to store an audio cd on a harddisk
[06:07] <jake1> and i cnt find that file
[06:07] <shibby> and lsusb dont give me an answer and i have to stop it
[06:08] <shibby> lol i think I am alone in the world with a problem concerning my usb...
[06:08] <lilbit> is there a line of optical (cdrw dvdRW) drives that work best in ubuntu?
[06:08] <lupine_85> lilbit: I think that all semi-modern ones work fine
[06:09] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: On my ubuntu computer (breezy), 'man umask' finds no entry.  On my debian computer, it find a C function.
[06:09] <lilbit> lupine_85, ok
[06:09] <lilbit> lupine_85, keyword semi
[06:09] <lupine_85> ok, anything you buy new :)
[06:09] <lupine_85> if you want a recommendation, I'm using an LG DVD/CD R/RW drive
[06:09] <lupine_85> works like a charm
[06:10] <TLE> when I try to run configure on a cmus sourcecode I get this massage "checking for ICONV_LIBS (-liconv)... no \n assuming libc contains iconv". It that a fair assumption, does libc contain icnov ?
[06:10] <rdz> lupine_85, finally i got the REAL solution: enabling clone copy in the k3b-burning dialog.......:-)
[06:10] <jake1> errrrrr.... freaking file
[06:10] <rdz> it creates an .img-file
[06:10] <lupine_85> cool :)
[06:11] <jake1> cnt find ndiswrapper on the CD
[06:11] <lilbit> what about burning DVD's a la dvshrink, can it be done in Ubuntu?  with what app?
[06:11] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper-utils and ndiswrapper-source
[06:11] <lupine_85> lilbit: gnomebaker and k3b work
[06:11] <lilbit> is there a dvdshrink like app for ubuntu
[06:11] <lupine_85> pretty GUI apps
[06:11] <lupine_85> never heard of dvdshrink though :(
[06:12] <EnsignRedshirt> How can I change my settings (whatever settings are relevant) so that from now on, my default file permissions do not give read access to 'group' and 'other'?
[06:12] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: my fault it is described in the bash manual iirc. basically if you set umask 002 in bashrc you will create files with 775 permisions
[06:12] <jake1> lupine_85 do i need to start up from the CD
[06:12] <elias_> what is the best supported wlan chipset?
[06:12] <lilbit> lupine_85, dvdshrink is awesome, burns almost any movie
[06:12] <picosam> okay so someone please: how do I set the correct refresh rates horizontal and vertical in my Screen section on my xorg.conf file?
[06:12] <Travis> I have a computer with ubuntu server on it, if I took the hard drive out and put it in another computer would ubuntu still work on the other computer?
[06:12] <lilbit> lupine_85, dvdshrink is awesome, free too
[06:12] <lupine_85> jake1: no. you need to use the cd as a repository
[06:13] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: I see--umask is a shell command.
[06:13] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: it will be umask 077 --> perm 700 --> rwx------
[06:13] <picosam> how do I find them out in the first place, should there be (for instance) a way to read them from my Mac OS X installation?
[06:13] <lupine_85> (use apt-cdrom)
[06:13] <e-type> TLE: you did install build_essentials, did you?
[06:13] <picosam> it seems that insufficient config is what's causing the problem
[06:13] <lupine_85> then install using synaptic/apt-get/aptitude/etc as usual
[06:13] <TLE> lupine_85: DVDschrink is a DVD9 to DVD5 app for windoze, based on compressed domain technique
[06:13] <evil_bunny> is the  Alternate' Install CD required for dual booting ?
[06:13] <e-type> picosam: depends on yr monitor
[06:13] <lupine_85> oh, hax0ring DVD movies?
[06:13] <lupine_85> no idea, sorry
[06:14] <picosam> okay, how do I find out where the settings of my Apple PowerBook G4 LCD monitors are?!
[06:15] <Seveas> ls
[06:15] <TLE> e-type: Yes, it is not a fatal error though. It's just a massage I get when I run ./configure. But I'm hoping to build a package from it, so I would like to make sure everything is as it should be
[06:16] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me my soundblaster card is not recognized at all... it doesnt even go into the pci space...I tried installing the onboard sound but it recognizes as 2 channel only and I have 5.1
[06:16] <lupine_85> tle: maybe try searching for the .h file in the glibc directories?
[06:17] <ravenous> the closest thing to dvdshrink is probably k9copy, QT app but it'll run under gnome as well, shrinks dvd9s down to dvd5 iso's right off the dvd
[06:17] <TLE> lupine_85: ok
[06:18] <lupine_85> or just build the app and see if it works ;)
[06:18] <jake1> ok.... i found ndiswrapper-util but not ndiswrapper-source on the cd
[06:18] <jake1> do i need both?
[06:18] <lupine_85> yes
[06:18] <crparr> Hi! Is there a deb file for ubuntu 5.04 available for postfix which works???
[06:18] <TLE> ravenous: How much time does it use..ish to make a backup?
[06:18] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic, you actually got a 5.1 source of sound?
[06:19] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  i always just mirrored the front speakers to the rear with the mixers
[06:19] <ravenous> TLE: im sure it totally depends on your drive speed and dma settings, my dma has to be turned down on my machine so im sure it takes longer for me, about half an hour
[06:19] <phiber_optic> dr_willis, look this is what happened I installed my sound blaster live 5.1 and ubuntu doest not recognize in lspci
[06:19] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  yes.. you were going on about this last night.
[06:19] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: Thanks, that seems to work for any commands that are started from the shell where I set the umask.  But if I run Applications->Accessories->Text Editor, and save file from there, it uses the original permissions.  If I set umask in .bashrc, and log in again, will apps run from the menu inherit the umask?
[06:19] <Evo-Guest497> DCC SEND 000000000000000000000
[06:19] <crparr> I had this problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/42947 I'm just now reinstalling my server.
[06:20] <jake1> lupine_85 well i'm not finding ndiswrapper-source
[06:20] <phiber_optic> dr_willis, yes...
[06:20] <phiber_optic> :(
[06:20] <phiber_optic> I still cant find an answer
[06:20] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  as a test.. find a live cd that Does use it corectly. make note of the modules its loaded. and its kernel version.
[06:20] <phiber_optic> stayed up to 4
[06:20] <lupine_85> then you'll need to get it onto the computer some other way
[06:20] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: I could just try it, of course, but I'd have to log out to test it :)
[06:21] <billybennett> Can anyone poie outnt me in the direction to help me fix the fact when im hitting hisft and backspace or anything like that it logs m
[06:21] <billybennett> wow I hate laptop touchpads.. :(
[06:21] <TLE> ravenous: Weel if it can do it in ~half an hour it is a good bet that it uses compressed domain reencoding. If it did real MPEG-2 re-encoding it would probably take about as much time as the duration of the movie or more.
[06:22] <ravenous> if your installing ndiswrapper via the cd you dont need the source, just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils using the cd as a repo, the 'ndiswrapper' binary is included
[06:22] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: yes afaik
[06:22] <phiber_optic> dr_willis, I also tried using my onboard
[06:22] <phiber_optic> sound card but it didnt work, it recognizes as 2 channel
[06:22] <ravenous> TLE: yeah i seriously doubt its true mpeg2 re-encodinng, the program has problems with certain copy protections as well most notably sony's
[06:23] <kaot> phiber_optic: I'll go out on a limb here and guess that someone already suggested you yank the card and stick it in a different pci slot.
[06:23] <phiber_optic> kaot done that
[06:23] <phiber_optic> ;)
[06:23] <EnsignRedshirt> erUSUL: I guess I'll find out. Thanks for your help. Ciao.
[06:23] <kaot> phiber_optic: i've never heard of a problem like that.  maybe it's just a bad card.
[06:24] <erUSUL> EnsignRedshirt: no problem
[06:24] <phiber_optic> yeah me neither
[06:24] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  its possible ubuntu is seeing the onboard and not configuring the other.
[06:24] <lupine_85> what about the ndiswrapper kernel module?
[06:25] <dr_willis_> if lspci isent even showuign the sound card.. that sounds like a pci slot/card issue./
[06:25] <phiber_optic> yes thats whats happening i guess
[06:25] <dr_willis_> depending on what was enabled when the system installed.
[06:26] <jake1> wow linux is so frustrating
[06:26] <lupine_85> some aspects
[06:26] <Linuturk_code> windows is frusterating too ;p
[06:26] <lupine_85> mostly those relying on 3rd-party software
[06:26] <dr_willis_> jake1,  you do NOT want to know the current struggle i am having with this Windows Machine.
[06:26] <baskew> windows is frustrating
[06:27] <Drako60> hmm i need some help, i just compiled my own kernel to see if i could get DMA working, and the kernel panics imediatly on boot, saying "Unable to mount root filesystem VFS on unknown_block(0,0)
[06:27] <lupine_85> oops :D
[06:27] <`richiefrich`> jake1  no your just learning :P
[06:27] <lupine_85> revert back to your previous kernel?
[06:27] <dr_willis_> 'windows - making trivial tasks that fail - impossible to troubleshoot' :)
[06:27] <lupine_85> (it does have an entry in grub, right?)
[06:27] <alexandra> hey i need a little help
[06:27] <Drako60> i did, but i'm wondering what the problem is
[06:27] <elias_> does dapper support prismGT via fullMAC, softMAC or freeMAC?
[06:27] <alexandra> is there anybody
[06:27] <phiber_optic> dr_willis, but its weird cauz my onboard is disabled
[06:27] <lupine_85> elias_ : yes - both
[06:28] <`richiefrich`> alexandra with?
[06:28] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  was it disabled when you installed?
[06:28] <lupine_85> looks like you didn't give it support for your filesystem
[06:28] <lupine_85> but I could be wrong
[06:28] <phiber_optic> dr_willis, yess
[06:28] <alexandra> ubuntu live cd
[06:28] <alexandra> pleease
[06:28] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  and even if its disabled or enabled.. the  'lspci' command should be showing the creative card.
[06:28] <`richiefrich`> explain
[06:28] <jake1> i'm jst having the worst time trying to get the wireless to work
[06:28] <Drako60> i'd really like to figure out what is causing the panic so i can atleast see if a kernel recompile is needed
[06:28] <alexandra> i need to reach my disk from live cd
[06:28] <phiber_optic> dr_willis_,  i know but it doesnt
[06:28] <alexandra> is it possible?
[06:28] <`richiefrich`> yes
[06:28] <alexandra> ?
[06:28] <lupine_85> you;ll need to recompile and add support for the filesystem you're using
[06:28] <alexandra> how then
[06:29] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  the true test - would be to get the sound card working with som eother live cd.  since lspci is not showing the card. that tells me - the card or pci slot is messed up.
[06:29] <lupine_85> build it into the kernel, rather than as a module
[06:29] <jake1> i cnt find ndiswrapper-source, just ndiswrapper-util (which i installed)
[06:29] <longwave> Drako60: you forgot to include either the filesystem driver for your root fs or the IDE driver for your hardware
[06:29] <phiber_optic> i was thinking that
[06:29] <longwave> Drako60: those must be compiled in, not loaded as modules for obvious reasons :)
[06:29] <jake1> and now i have no clue what i should be using for my driver for my wireless card
[06:29] <phiber_optic> but it works perfectly under windows
[06:29] <kaot> phiber_optic: or just stick it  in another box, ifyou've got one.
[06:29] <dr_willis_> alexandra,  mount the drive to some location with the mount command.
[06:29] <kaot> phiber_optic: you do have one, don't you?
[06:29] <`richiefrich`> alexandra please high light me... you just mount  thee partitions
[06:29] <ravenous> jake1: your windows drivers are what you use with ndiswrapper
[06:29] <jake1> but how
[06:29] <kaot> phiber_optic: oh it works under windows?
[06:30] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper -h
[06:30] <phiber_optic> kaot, yesss
[06:30] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic, could try disabling the PNP feature in the bios also.
[06:30] <alexandra> i dont know how to mount them
[06:30] <ravenous> jake1: download them or take them off a cd, put them in a dir, install with ndiswrapper -i blah.inf
[06:30] <Drako60> hmm i might have ended up with my root FS as module, didn't think so though, and the IDE driver is why i'm recompiling so i know it was included
[06:30] <phiber_optic> dr_willis_, how do i do that?
[06:30] <Drako60> alright thanks
[06:30] <alexandra> shoul i write come command when booting the live cd?
[06:30] <lupine_85> ext2 is the default?
[06:31] <Drako60> i'm using reiserfs
[06:31] <Thunderpants> no alexandra just hit enter
[06:31] <dr_willis_> phiber_optic,  should be a bios setting in there somewhere.
[06:31] <alexandra> then
[06:31] <phiber_optic> look ill try to update my bios
[06:31] <grogoreo> hi
[06:31] <elias_> lupine_85: both? There were 3 options in my question.
[06:31] <lupine_85> so there was. I don't think freemac is supported OOTB
[06:31] <grogoreo> how can I do a batch convert of .psd files to something like .jpeg or .png? does ImageMagick work doing PSDs?
[06:32] <lupine_85> easy enough to d/l though if needed
[06:32] <phiber_optic> look ill try to update my bios
[06:32] <phiber_optic> maybe its a problem with my bios
[06:32] <crparr> crystal: irre, was?
[06:32] <stamen> hi
[06:33] <jake1> ok.. i got the windows driver downloaded on my mac
[06:33] <TSP_X> Hi D
[06:33] <jake1> i'm gonna try and burn them to DVD
[06:33] <stamen> when I launch konqueror it gives me this error when the navigation panel is on
[06:33] <stamen> it crashesh
[06:33] <Drako60> hehe, even EXT2 and EXT3 are modules
[06:34] <TSP_X> I have a weird problem, if i burn a dvd with k3b ubuntu wont mount it i have to do ut manual but the dvd don't work good
[06:34] <stamen> says cannot find parent item
[06:34] <stamen> file ///home in the tree
[06:34] <TSP_X> anyone know something about this? is only my problem with k3b and ubuntu?
[06:34] <stamen> Internal error
[06:34] <stamen> how to fix it
[06:35] <BBlinkK> hi
[06:35] <Don_jr> Anyone up to helpin with a WLan problem?  My Netgear WG511 has a light blinking on it, and the network manager in gnome recognizes the router, but won't connect?
[06:35] <alexandra> Thunderpants i "just hit enter" as you say but i does not mount my disk
[06:35] <alexandra> i cant reach it
[06:36] <alexandra> can the disk manager do it
[06:37] <Drako60> longwave, do you use make-kpkg for kernel compiles?
[06:38] <Don_jr> Okay, can anyone tell me a wireless laptop card that will work out of the box??
[06:38] <lupine_85> miniPCI?
[06:39] <dtygel> hi people: is there a way to install ubuntu in text-mode from the ubuntu-desktop cd?
[06:39] <quintin> hi hi
[06:39] <EnsignRedshirt> Does ubuntu breezy use "PAM"?  I tried changing umask in /etc/login.defs  and /etc/profile to 'umask 077', but it did not work.  Comments in login.dets say that the use of umask is discouraged, and pam_umask should be used instead.
[06:39] <nry> hi ppl, I can't install ubuntu because my RJ45 can't negotiate with DHCP, is that possible?
[06:39] <jake1> quintin: i had to do it from the alternate CD
[06:39] <Dimensions> i want to copy a file from a folder which has space in the name how do i mention it ... its lets say /home/office work/abc  /etc/me
[06:40] <dr_willis_> use tab completion, or learn to use  quotes properly. :P
[06:40] <billybennett> Can someone help me fix the xgl backspace + shift error?   Ive put everything possible into my session>startup items but no luck
[06:40] <dr_willis_> 'this sspace'
[06:40] <dtygel> dimensions: use quota: "this file name"
[06:40] <harisund> Dimensions I think the space is written is \. So you would do -> cp /home/office\ work/abc /etc/me
[06:40] <lupine_85> Don_jr: minipci or usb card?
[06:40] <harisund> or use quotes as well
[06:40] <lupine_85> you get some good atheros miniPCI cards (supported by madwifi)
[06:40] <Don_jr> minipci
[06:41] <jake1> sweet.... i got the driver on DVD now
[06:41] <lupine_85> ok, you want one of these:- (wait for it...)
[06:41] <dtygel> I have a too slow cd-rom, and want to install only the base system from the CD-ROM: the rest from internet. How do I do it?
[06:41] <phargle> Dimensions: escape any special characters in filenames with by prefixing with a \
[06:41] <jake1> now i need to figure out how to use nidswrapper to install it
[06:41] <phargle> Dimensions: or like dr_willis_ says, just use tab complete and don't worry about it
[06:41] <Dimensions> thanks dtygel ... and harisund
[06:41] <tjb891> is gsudo the graphical equivelent of sudo?
[06:41] <jake1> ummm..... ok.... well there is a lot of stuff in this file
[06:42] <jake1> how do i know which to install
[06:42] <lupine_85>  don_jr: check your pm. link was a bit big for the channel
[06:42] <J_P> hi all
[06:42] <lupine_85> erm, I should point out that that is *not* my auction :)
[06:42] <DifferentSmoke> hello. I have a simple question
[06:42] <pm> lupine_85: what????
[06:42] <lupine_85> just get the model numbers/etc
[06:42] <lupine_85> lol
[06:42] <DifferentSmoke> I'm updating through the console
[06:42] <lupine_85> "private message"
[06:42] <lupine_85> aka. /msg
[06:43] <dtygel> help people: is there a way to only install minimal ubuntu, without live CD? only text-mode, with no graphics?
[06:43] <lupine_85> yes: download the alternative install CD
[06:43] <alexandra> is it possible to reach my disk from live cd??
[06:43] <tjb891> how do you start nmapFE as root?
[06:43] <lupine_85> man sudo
[06:43] <Don_jr> lupine_85 Okay I got the link, but I"m mistaken.  I need the card that plugs in from the side of the computer.....heh sorry
[06:43] <alexandra> how can i mount it
[06:43] <lupine_85> PCMCIA? :)
[06:43] <DifferentSmoke> I used sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <jake1> i'm the files say i dnt have permission to read them
[06:44] <DifferentSmoke> but I need to abort it to shut down the PC
[06:44] <jake1> meaning i cnt copy them
[06:44] <nich0s> exit
[06:44] <DifferentSmoke> how do I do that?
[06:44] <jake1> help me
[06:44] <lupine_85> I don't have any knowlefge around them, I'm afraid
[06:44] <jake1> i need to get these drivers working
[06:45] <Don_jr> lupine_85 yeah, that one.  I've been trying to get this netgear WG511 running all night last nght and can't get it going
[06:45] <lupine_85> afraid I can't give any recommendations
[06:45] <jake1> WTF
[06:45] <darkowl> hello
[06:45] <darkowl> i have a question...
[06:45] <lupine_85> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[06:45] <jake1> ever file says i dnt have permission to read them
[06:45] <darkowl> how to see a list of installed programs ?
[06:45] <ctwiner> hi all
[06:46] <ctwiner> quick question, newbie to ubuntu, but very versed in windows
[06:46] <jake1> lupine_85 so.... i got the driver downloaded and copied to CD
[06:46] <jake1> but the files won't copy off the CD
[06:46] <ctwiner> i am running 6.06 ubuntu but the freakin help keeps popping up every few seconds
[06:47] <jake1> cuz it says i dnt have permission to read any of the files
[06:47] <ctwiner> anyone know how to turn it off?
 what help ?
[06:47] <ctwiner>  i am running 6.06 ubuntu but the freakin help keeps popping up every few seconds
[06:47] <ctwiner> anyone know how to turn it off?
[06:47] <darkowl> what help ?
[06:47] <jake1> what do i do?
[06:47] <darkowl> how to see a list of installed programs ?
[06:48] <ctwiner> no how to stop the help keep popping up for no reason
[06:48] <harisund> darkowl: dpkg --list
[06:48] <lupine_85> run as root?
[06:48] <harisund> lupine_85: run what as root?
[06:48] <darkowl> tnx
[06:48] <lupine_85> was @jake1
[06:49] <EnsignRedshirt> I have 'umask 077' in /etc/profile, .bash_profile, and .bashrc.  In login.defs, I have 'UMASK  077'.  Still, when I run an application from the menu bar, it uses the default umask of 022.  How can I change this?
[06:49] <EnsignRedshirt> I am using breezy.
[06:49] <jake1> huh??
[06:49] <zeroflag> how can I install ubuntu on my raid? it doesn't recognize the raid and shows me 2 seperate hdds...
[06:50] <jake1> do you know how i can change copy the files
[06:50] <lupine_85> sorry, but I g2g. be back later. jake1: you need to build & install ndiswrapper-source, then install the windows drivers (ndiswrapper -h for info)
[06:50] <jake1> i did that
[06:50] <jake1> i have the driver
[06:50] <jake1> but  i cnt get them off cd
[06:50] <jake1> it won't let me copy them to my computer
[06:50] <ctwiner> anyone know an answer to geting the Help pop up fixed?
[06:51] <jake1> how do i swap to root user
[06:51] <jake1> without using command line
[06:51] <jake1> is there a graphical way
[06:51] <jake1> ?
[06:51] <Kragnerac> Hello, does anybody know of a tool for Linux to defragment fat volumes?
[06:52] <davin> Kragnerac: Gparted?
 login as root ?
[06:52] <davin> Kragnerac: just a wild guess
[06:52] <sachac> jake1: gsudo
[06:52] <Kragnerac> heh
[06:53] <jake1> darkowl i tried that but it wouldn't let me
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Sheesh... I have to login in just to search the ubuntu forums?
[06:53] <jake1> said my password was invalid
[06:53] <HeathenDan> Kragnerac, none that i know of
[06:53] <jake1> or my username
[06:53] <davin> Kragnerac: If you got Windows somewhere you might be able to do that
[06:54] <marshall_> hey guys
[06:54] <davin> marshall_: hi
 you have to enable it: System-administration-login window-security-allow admin....
[06:54] <marshall_> does anybody know a better file manager for gnome than nautilus?
[06:54] <Kragnerac> davin: Unfortunately, I only have Ubuntu on my system, as my HD is too small for dual-booting.
[06:54] <Qix> hi; im having a bit of trouble setting up my CRT screen to work off my laptop
[06:54] <davin> Kragnerac: I can understand that
[06:54] <eyequeue> "better" is opinion, what do you want different?
[06:54] <sysdoc> marshall_, try Thunar
[06:54] <marshall_> Qix:  whats a CRT screen
[06:55] <alejandro> que onda
[06:55] <Qix> i dont really want to use the laptop internal screen (unless the CRT isnt plugged in) - but ive finally managed to sort it out so both work
[06:55] <davin> Kragnerac: Most FAT-using people are Windows dualbooters, so that was why that came up
[06:55] <Qix> marshall_, external screen
[06:55] <marshall_> Qix:  ok, yeah those are a bit tricky
[06:55] <Qix> now its running on both through xinerama, which can work
[06:55] <Qix> the problem is now.; the external one is too big
[06:55] <Qix> eg, i can move around inside it
[06:55] <Kragnerac> davin: Well, it's not a partition that's using FAT32 in particular, but rather a USB Flash Drive.
[06:56] <jake1> darkowl: ok i enabled it, but how to i tell it the password
[06:56] <Qix> (if i mouve the mouse to the right or bottom scrolls -- how can i get around that
[06:56] <davin> Kragnerac: Ahh, it got corrupt?
[06:56] <rambo3> Qix dont you need to change default under screen section for that device in xorg.conf
[06:56] <jake1> it won't let me log in under my admin password
[06:56] <jake1> i typed root as the username
[06:56] <eyequeue> !root
[06:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:56] <jake1> and <my password> as the password
 tell it what password ? set password for root ?
[06:57] <davin> Kragnerac: Well, I do not know of any defragmentating application on Ubuntu, try to find a Windows PC for now, or maybe someone else here could help you
[06:57] <Qix> rambo3, how do i do that ?
[06:57] <jake1> ok.... i get to the login screen
[06:57] <jake1> i type root
[06:57] <jake1> then my password
[06:57] <jake1> doesn't let me in
[06:57] <davin> jakel: Ubuntu doesnt have root as user
[06:57] <jake1> WTF
[06:57] <jake1> that is stupid
[06:57] <davin> jakel: relax
[06:57] <linuxpoet> how do I enable tls for sendmail in dapper?
[06:57] <lhds> is debian better than ubuntu? its a serious question your opinions please
[06:57] <darkowl> davin:yes it does
[06:57] <Qix> lol
[06:57] <Bman> How do I change it so ubuntu doesnt start X, so its just console mode when it boots?
[06:57] <eyequeue> jake1, no,. root is stupid
[06:57] <davin> darkowl: I meant you cant login as root, you execute programs as root
[06:57] <eyequeue> !root > jake1
[06:58] <EnsignRedshirt> !root
[06:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
 as user run sudo passwd and set a new password
[06:58] <Qix> jake1, sudo -i... but yes; root is bad
 ou can login as root
[06:58] <jake1> eyequeue yes i know how to do it from the commandline
[06:58] <Kragnerac> jake1: You can activate the root account by following some directions on the Wiki.
[06:58] <davin> darkowl: =o
[06:58] <Qix> 8tries
[06:58] <eyequeue> do not advise that in here, it is deprecated
 you didnt set a password for root, just run sudo passwd as user and set password for root,logout,and login as root
[06:59] <rambo3> Qiz under section screen you in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you prolly have 2 of them and just look under default depth (24?) and remove resolution that is too big
[06:59] <eyequeue> darkowl, please do not advise that in here, it is deprecated
 so what ? maybe he just wants to know...
[06:59] <eyequeue> darkowl, let him find it from the wiki then
[06:59] <Qix> how do i make my external screen the default screen for xinerama ? (ramb3 ? )
 im not advising anything,he asked me how to do it and im telling him,nothing wrong in that
[06:59] <eyequeue> darkowl, why should it be on your conscience?
[06:59] <Qix> *rambo3
[06:59] <Sp4rKy> hey
[07:00] <eyequeue> darkowl, just point him to the reading :)
[07:00] <Qix> anyone
[07:00] <Qix> :/
[07:00] <jake1> thsnk you darkowl
[07:00] <rambo3> Qix i know 0 about that , i know only about twin view where screen #2 is just a mirror of #1
[07:00] <jake1> that's wat i'm talking about
[07:00] <Qix> how do i set that up ?
[07:00] <m`kay_ubunux> hi guys. i try since a few days to install the proprietary ati drivers, and it doesnt works. can someone help me please
[07:00] <jake1> now i have permission over those files
[07:01] <Qix> i gotta go :( - quick - or can you /msg me :(
[07:01] <Qix> i been trying for hours
[07:01] <marshall_> does anybody know how to get tabs in nautilus and relevant information in the "Information" sidebar?
[07:01] <Qix> rambo3, oh wait; my external cant handle the same resolution as the internal
[07:01] <jake1> see i was worried there for a sec that i wouldn't be able to use root
[07:01] <rambo3> Qix it doesnt have to
[07:01] <disasm> I'm remastering dapper alternate install cd. I've read base-config is no longer used. How can I add a post install hook to run stuff after the install ends?
[07:02] <Bman> How do I make it so Ubuntu boots into console mode instead of X?
[07:02] <dr_willis_> Bman,  disable the gpm service
[07:02] <eyequeue> Bman, sudo dpkg --purge gdm
[07:02] <Bman> ty
[07:02] <eyequeue> dr_willis_, the mouse? :)
[07:02] <rambo3> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[07:03] <dr_willis_> that to. :P
[07:03] <dr_willis_> gdm
[07:03] <dr_willis_> :P
[07:04] <jake1> ok....can someone walk me through how to install my wireless card driver using ndiswrapper
[07:04] <jake1> ?
[07:04] <dtygel> hi all: is there a way to install ubuntu in text-mode using the desktop install cd? or live is the ONLY way?
[07:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Not that anyone probably cares, but I think I found the answer to my question in the forum.  To set the umask for programs run from the gnome menu, I have to put 'umask 077' in .gnomerc.  I'm off to try it.
[07:05] <tritium> !ndiswrapper > jake1
[07:05] <eyequeue> dtygel, use the alternate cd
[07:05] <dtygel> eyequeue: what's the alternate cd?
[07:06] <eyequeue> dtygel, there's 3 cds per arch for d/l, livecd alternatecd, servercd
[07:06] <eyequeue> dtygel, livecd is cluttered with all that live stuff, alternatecd has the power
[07:07] <dtygel> eyequeue: but can't I put an option in the normal desktop-cd? I would have to wait for ages for the new cd image...
[07:07] <dr_willis_> dtygel,  not that i have ever heard mentioned of.. and yes - its an annoyance.
[07:07] <eyequeue> dtygel, no,  the livecd has no room on it for that
[07:07] <dtygel> eyequeue: can I install everything I need for desktop afterwards from the alternate cd?
[07:07] <dr_willis_> since the live cd had room for other useless junk. :P
[07:08] <eyequeue> dtygel, yes, you tell alternate you want the gui and you get it
[07:08] <dtygel> dr_willis and eyequeue: thanks... I'm loosing a new linux adept because of the time I'm taking to simply install!
[07:08] <Kragnerac> I have a question. If I use swap on a USB flash drive, will it be faster than swap on an HD or slower?
[07:08] <dr_willis_> i hear swap on a USB flash drive is a bad idea
[07:08] <eyequeue> dtygel, you can also always "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" if you have net connectivity
[07:09] <mastastealth> hey guys, im compiling some stuff on my desktop here and am wondering if there was a way to do some cluster type thing with my laptop and server, so that both of them can be put to use and help compile too? Like sharing the resources (CPU and RAM) of the 2 computers with my desktop over the network. Is there a program that can do that?
[07:09] <lhds>  all the downloaded deb files are saved in a specific folder i can copy and reinstall on another base install with no problem right? than i can call them again with apt get no?
[07:09] <dmb> distcc
[07:09] <dr_willis_> mastastealth,  distcc does that.
[07:09] <evil_bunny> is the  Alternate' Install CD required for dual booting ?
[07:09] <eyequeue> lhds, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:09] <dr_willis_> evil_bunny,  NO.
[07:09] <dmb> evil_bunny: no
[07:10] <evil_bunny> dr_willis_, tahnks
[07:10] <mastastealth> ok thanks!
[07:10] <lhds> between blackbox and fluxbox whitch one is more complete?
[07:10] <eyequeue> lhds, scp or sneakernet them over, and just apt-get, yes
[07:10] <dr_willis_> lhds,  fluxbox has more features
[07:11] <lhds> okay i will install it since i am running blackbox they can coexist right?
[07:11] <Kragnerac> lhds: Yes.
[07:11] <lhds> nice
[07:14] <dtygel> eyequeue: can I also change ubuntu-server to ubuntu-desktop using apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:14] <eyequeue> dtygel, right
[07:14] <dtygel> eyequeue: ... and afterwards uninstalling ubuntu-server?
[07:15] <eyequeue> dtygel, no need, but sure (it's just a meta-package)
[07:15] <dtygel> eyequeue: so I'm going to start trying server, because I already downloaded it. It's already lighter, I guess
[07:15] <javiolo> hi
[07:15] <eyequeue> dtygel, yes
[07:15] <dtygel> eyequeue: thanks a lot :)
[07:15] <eyequeue> dtygel, no prob
[07:16] <javiolo> Im trying to instal xubuntu on a old p3 with 128 of ram, the problem is that the installation menu freezes every 3 secs, is there any way to make a text install ?
[07:16] <eyequeue> javiolo, the alternate cd
[07:17] <SanketMedhi> hello
[07:17] <javiolo> eyequeue is not possible from the desktop cd ?
[07:18] <Yolantha> Hallo, wie geht es dir?
[07:18] <eyequeue> javiolo, no, that is bloated with all that live stuff
[07:18] <eyequeue> !de > Yolantha
[07:18] <javiolo> eyequeue okk thanks, do yo think xubuntu will work nice on a p3 with 128 of ram ??
[07:18] <eyequeue> !away > Skymaker
[07:19] <Skymaker> w00t?
[07:19] <eyequeue> javiolo, that would be my choice for that machine, yes :)
[07:19] <mjr> javiolo, it should be usable, if you don't use too many heavy applications, of course
[07:19] <javiolo> eyequeue dont know if its the livecd but this is too slow
[07:20] <javiolo> mjr its for office work
[07:20] <eyequeue> javiolo, live is slow anyway, plus gnome
[07:20] <javiolo> eyequeue well Im trying xubuntu that is xfce...
[07:20] <eyequeue> javiolo, much peppier
[07:21] <eyequeue> javiolo, and abiword vs ooo, etc
[07:21] <javiolo> I tried to install ubuntu and gnome didnt finished to start
[07:21] <javiolo> it took 20 min
[07:21] <Yolantha> Can you speak German?
[07:21] <HeathenDan> javiolo, openoffice will be a killer for your system, too slow. unfortunately, abiword and gnumeric aren't as good with msoffice files as OOo
[07:21] <javiolo> !de
[07:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:22] <javiolo> wow win 98 plus ms word worked nice...
[07:22] <eyequeue> Yolantha, try those channels
[07:22] <Yolantha> Verstehst du mich?
[07:22] <HeathenDan> lol
[07:22] <eyequeue> Yolantha, this is english-only
[07:23] <javiolo> I hope that will work better than win98!
[07:23] <Yolantha> Can you speak German?
[07:23] <josh__> where can i get a tutorial for compiz?
[07:23] <HeathenDan> you can always hope :p
[07:23] <tritium> Yolantha: in #ubuntu-de
[07:23] <Yolantha> Hello
[07:23] <josh__> i tried googling but i cant find the ubuntu one that i saw before
[07:24] <rambo3> schprehnsi kaine deutch
[07:24] <Yolantha> Was dagegen?
[07:24] <tritium> !de
[07:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:24] <eyequeue> Yolantha, this is english-only
[07:24] <`blink> sprechen Sie deutsch lol
[07:24] <sque> Hi I have a problem with broken package
[07:24] <javiolo> de > Yolantha
[07:24] <sque> The problem is with samba package
[07:24] <eyequeue> !de > Yolantha
[07:24] <martinz> Yolantha != de xD
[07:25] <martinz> !de
[07:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:25] <martinz> !en
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <martinz> !
[07:25] <Yolantha> Yolantha  !=  de  xD
[07:25] <rambo3> !info libsexy2
[07:25] <ubotu> libsexy2: collection of additional GTK+ widgets - library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.7-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 128 kB
[07:25] <martinz> someone blessed by the night?
[07:25] <martinz> uuuh knight
[07:26] <codejunky> ahoi
[07:26] <HNT> Hello everybody, just for info, i'm running XGL but i can't use an application in fullscreen mode, how to do it ?
[07:26] <Yolantha> Wer bist du?
[07:26] <frenkel> why doesn't my ipod show up in Listen?
[07:26] <tritium> Yolantha: stop
[07:26] <eyequeue> !xgl > HNT
[07:26] <Yolantha> Yolantha no stop!
[07:26] <codejunky> Yolantha:
[07:27] <Yolantha> What?
[07:27] <codejunky> Yolantha: ahoi
[07:27] <kingrayray> i'm on ubuntu right now..but i want to install a full KDE environment.. do i just apt-get install kde?
[07:27] <Yolantha> Ahoi!
[07:27] <josh__> !compiz
[07:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:27] <eyequeue> kingrayray, close    kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <Trae> :(
[07:27] <kingrayray> eyequeue: thank you =)
[07:27] <martinz> where can I cry out to legions of the brave?
[07:27] <Yolantha> :)
[07:27] <codejunky> Yolantha: Was geht?
[07:27] <eyequeue> kingrayray, no prob
[07:27] <Trae> My laptop will shut off on me after playing a flash video for only 2 or 3 minutes
[07:27] <Trae> every... single... time
[07:27] <Yolantha> Kannst du Deutsch sprechen?
[07:28] <codejunky> Na logo
[07:28] <Trae> I've read about others, on tons of different laptops having the same problem.
[07:28] <HNT> thanks
[07:28] <Trae> But haven't found a resolution
[07:28] <Trae> I turned off acpi, but that didn't fix the problem.
[07:28] <Trae> tritium was there some trouble earlier?
[07:29] <tritium> Trae: how much earlier?
[07:29] <Trae> tritium heh, good point
[07:29] <tritium> heh :)
[07:29] <Trae> tritium just saw you -o and wondered if I missed a fuss ;)
[07:29] <tritium> Trae: no, nothing serious
[07:30] <Trae> hmm
[07:30] <killerdemon> omg
[07:30] <Trae> l i b m r pigs
[07:30] <killerdemon> my .26-k7 kernel crashed after putting it to sleep
[07:30] <killerdemon> now i'm on .26-386
[07:31] <martinz> how to weave a charm and a spell?
[07:31] <eyequeue> martinz, um, this is #ubuntu, did you need help?
[07:31] <martinz> yeah :/
[07:31] <tritium> Yolantha: #ubuntu-de for German, as you have been told already
[07:31] <thrghpt> hi
[07:31] <killerdemon> does anybody know how to solve it? :)
[07:32] <martinz> eyequeue: where can I find the package legions of the brave? :/
[07:32] <thrghpt> i cannae play mp3s outta the box??
[07:32] <eyequeue> martinz, nothing i have heard of
[07:32] <eyequeue> !mp3 > thrghpt
[07:32] <thrghpt> thank you
[07:33] <martinz> eyequeue: and the neon knights?
[07:33] <eyequeue> martinz, nothing i have heard of
[07:33] <eyequeue> martinz, what are they for?
[07:33] <martinz> eyequeue: actually I just wanted to weave a charm and a spell; maybe this is the wrong channel for me?
[07:33] <eyequeue> martinz, apparently so
[07:33] <martinz> eyequeue: too bad, I'm sorry, thank you
[07:34] <eyequeue> martinz, sounds like #magic
[07:34] <martinz> eyequeue: no ones in #magic :/
[07:35] <Trae> what are default runlevels for acpid and acpi-supp?
[07:35] <tiede> Hello everyone. I need to add a radio station to Banshee. Anyone knows how I should procede?
[07:35] <eyequeue> Trae, not an ubuntu thing, but 2 is default
[07:36] <eyequeue> Trae, man update-rc.d if you want to mess with that though
[07:36] <Trae> eyequeue hmm ok... I turned them off trying to see if that was the problem, but now I've found some debugging that involves it. heh
[07:36] <Trae> eyequeue I instaled sysv-rc-conf
[07:36] <DShepherd> tiede: tried searchin at google for online radio stations?
[07:36] <Trae> which is a gui (curses) tool
[07:36] <Trae> should have taken a screenshot first
[07:36] <eyequeue> Trae, that can do it too, if you can handle guis better than i
[07:37] <Trae> could someone apt-get install sysv-rc-conf and then take a screenshot of the default settings for me please?
[07:37] <tiede> I already have a stream at hand, DShepherd. I just can't seem to put it in Banshee
[07:37] <Trae> of course, you'll need acpi for it to be useful for me
[07:37] <Trae> ;)
[07:37] <DShepherd> tiede: ok
[07:38] <Trae> eyequeue I guess if I turned it on for every runlevel it wouldn't matter would it?
[07:38] <Trae> heh
[07:38] <eyequeue> Trae, heh
[07:38] <Trae> that somehow seems like a bad idea
[07:38] <Lazarus> hello all
[07:39] <tiede> Never mind, DShepherd. I figured it out. It is a counter-intuitive process... First click add stream, than actually tick a box to let you add it again... Weird.
[07:39] <eyequeue> Trae, ubuntu things default to "every runlevel" though
[07:39] <eyequeue> Trae, 2-5 at least
[07:39] <kingrayray> i have a question.. why does ubuntu install a bittorrent tracker by default?
[07:40] <wweasel> Could anyone here help me out with libmtp? I am trying to get it to work with my iRiver H10 and I get an error saying "inep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Broken pipe" I have no idea wth that means.
[07:40] <DShepherd> tiede: ok
[07:40] <dr_willis_> kingrayray,  why not. :)
[07:40] <Lazarus> i need to access my web site in zope server with domain.com
[07:40] <Samuli^> kingrayray, why not?
[07:40] <Trae> hmmm
[07:40] <kingrayray> dr_willis_: that's a pretty good rason, it just seemed odd lol
[07:40] <Trae> runlevel 0 is off isn't it?
[07:40] <kingrayray> reason*
[07:40] <Trae> heh
[07:40] <dr_willis_> I can think of much weirder things ubuntu does
[07:40] <eyequeue> kingrayray, for those that want to use it ... why install OOo by default?  same
[07:40] <bluefox83> is there a utility that makes renaming a huge batch of files easier?
[07:41] <eyequeue> bluefox83, man rename
[07:41] <kingrayray> eyequeue: well, OOo is more practical.. a BT tracker, most people wont even know wtf to do with it, right? (i could be terribly mistaken)
[07:41] <Trae> cause if you do telinit 0 that shuts down doesn't it?
[07:41] <dr_willis_> bluefox83,  several. 'rename' for the shell. then theres various gui reanamer tools. check freshmeat.net
[07:41] <Samuli^> eyequeue, it's not at all the same :D bittorrent takes few megs while OOo takes what 200-300?
[07:41] <eyequeue> kingrayray, many of us never touch OOo, myself included
[07:41] <Lazarus> i need to access my web site in zope server with domain.com
[07:41] <kingrayray> eyequeue: i don't either, lol
[07:41] <eyequeue> Samuli^, great point
[07:42] <wweasel> Could anyone here help me out with libmtp? I am trying to get it to work with my iRiver H10 and I get an error saying "inep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Broken pipe" I have no idea wth that means.
[07:42] <foo25> Hey, was wondering if anyone can help me? I had Ubuntu installed before, worked fine but had to uninstall, I've just put it on my other hard drive, but now none of the networking will work at all! Any ideas?
[07:42] <Lazarus> help
[07:42] <ompaul> !helpme
[07:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <Lazarus> i need to access my web site in zope server with domain.com ?
[07:44] <Trae> hmmm if I do: cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info  it shows throttling control: no and limit interface: no
[07:45] <foo25> I also get an error message about networking problems which mean that GNOME won't function properly, and to try adding my host to file etc/ something. Anyone had this problem?
[07:45] <SanketMedhi> I have been facing this problem since I installed/uninstalled XGL ..... my gdmsetup gives this error ... Could not access GDM configuration file. .... any suggestions?
[07:46] <bluefox83> ok, how do i remove spaces in a group of files, and replace them with underscores?
[07:46] <Lazarus> i need to access my web site in zope server with domain.com ?
[07:46] <je> hi, I just got ubuntu installed, but unfortunately, I cannot find this search thingy anywhere :/
[07:46] <bluefox83> je, search thingy?
[07:47] <HNT> Hello everybody, i'v got some problem with alacarte, unfortunatly, he is displaying only a part of my GNOME menu so how can I fix it ? (or how can I simply edit my gnome menu)
[07:47] <Trae> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/22336
[07:47] <SanketMedhi> Je: Places >> Search for files
[07:47] <liran_> SanketMedhi: check /etc/X11/gdm
[07:47] <SanketMedhi> liran_: its perfect
[07:47] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to install kubuntu-desktop on an existing ubuntu-desktop installation without it DESTROYING GNOME?
[07:47] <je> BlueEagle: yeah, can't remember it's name, contains two "0"s I think
[07:47] <harm_> Anyone know a good CLI Bittorent Client
[07:47] <cypher1> bluefox83, try s/ +/_/g
[07:47] <harm_> or preferably a CLI interface torrent client
[07:48] <je> SanketMedhi: hmm... not what I mean :/
[07:48] <kingrayray> harm_: rtorrent
[07:48] <SanketMedhi> liran_: what did you exactly mean?
[07:48] <kingrayray> read the manpage for config options =)
[07:48] <liran_> SanketMedhi: check /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:48] <bluefox83> cypher1,  rename s/ +/_/g *.mp3  right?
[07:49] <bluefox83> or do i need ' '
[07:49] <bluefox83> ?
[07:49] <SanketMedhi> liran_: what am I looking for?
[07:49] <HNT> how can i easly edit a GNOME menu (without alacarte)
[07:49] <foo25> Is there a help server here or anything??
[07:49] <je> my friend just said it's called "g00gle"; where can I find it? I have checked "Applications", "Places", as well as "System", but I was not able to find it anywhere
[07:49] <HaroldJohnson> Hey fools, anyone have luck installing Ubunut on an OldWorld PowerBook?
[07:49] <dr_willis_> HNT,  depends on which menu i think :P
[07:49] <HNT> applications menu
[07:50] <dr_willis_> HNT,  thats normally generated on the fly from the various .desktop entryies I belive.
[07:50] <dr_willis_> Its proberly also getting some info from the user .gnome dirs and gconf file. but i never dissected it that much
[07:51] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[07:51] <sque> I have a broken package, I try to fix it by running: "apt-get -f install" and I get: http://pastebin.com/775806
[07:51] <je> where is this "g00gle" or maybe "google" I suppose?
[07:52] <sque> What am I doing wrong?
[07:52] <fyrestrtr> how did you install samba before?
[07:53] <bluefox83> sque, it's a broken removal package, it's not anything you are doing wrong..apt-get install -f can only do so much ya know
[07:53] <crouchingMonkey> can someone help me, my dvd burner is not going at full speed and i configured k3b
[07:54] <sque> fyrestrtr, bluefox83 It just happend, after I tried to update my system
[07:54] <Yolantha> Hallo! Spricht jemand Deutsch?
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> !d2
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> !de
[07:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:54] <Yolantha> Hello! speak nobody German?
[07:54] <eyequeue> Yolantha, again!  ENGLISH ONLY here!
[07:54] <Yolantha> What?
[07:54] <sque> fyrestrtr, bluefox83 It happened when updated from dapper beta to release one. So how do I fix it, I cannot remove it
[07:55] <oblib> I have a weird problem and I'm not sure where to look:  I just updated my desktop to Dapper. For some reason, I can access my LAN, but cannot get to the internet. What did I break?
[07:55] <eyequeue> Yolantha, you've been told where to go and alo banned over this, what more?
[07:55] <oblib> Another Dapper system on my LAN can get to the internet just fine
[07:55] <liran_> SanketMedhi: your looking for some bad configuration.
[07:55] <Yolantha> Can you speak German?
[07:55] <liran_> SanketMedhi: try googling for it.
[07:55] <eyequeue> Yolantha, not in here
[07:55] <bluefox83> sque, i have no idea..i've had issues with doing stuff like that before
[07:55] <Yolantha> Bu bist ja bld!
[07:55] <LordLandon> Ahoy ahoy guys
[07:56] <Yolantha> Hallo
[07:56] <LordLandon> I'm having an issue getting the dapper cd to start
[07:56] <javiolo> whats the best solution to run windows apps on linux ?
[07:56] <disasm> wine
[07:56] <JackMacOKC> javiolo: wine
[07:56] <eyequeue> LordLandon, 6.06 or 6.06.1?
[07:56] <javiolo> ok, thanks
[07:56] <bluefox83> javiolo, run linux apps instead, they run better
[07:56] <eyequeue> LordLandon, the latter is the recent fixed one
[07:56] <LordLandon> eyequeue: not quite sure
[07:57] <LordLandon> Probably 6.06 then
[07:57] <javiolo> bluefox yes, I run linux apps, but Im installing linux on a office
[07:57] <eyequeue> LordLandon, the problem was only on the livecd, not alternatecd or servercd
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> javiolo: probable depends on the app, vmware or something like it may be more appropriate depending on what it is
[07:57] <javiolo> and they need a spececific win app
[07:58] <javiolo> well its an app to manage the marks of the kids
[07:58] <LordLandon> eyequeue: Is there a way to get around it with this one, or should I download another?
[07:58] <javiolo> :P
[07:58] <eyequeue> LordLandon, probably d/l, sorry
[07:58] <CaptainChris> hi
[07:58] <LordLandon> eyequeue: Alright, thanks.. I'll go do that then
[07:58] <CaptainChris> i have a problem with plugins in mupen , anybody can help me ?
[07:58] <eyequeue> LordLandon, if you're doing an install, i like the alternate cd
[07:58] <lordhelmet> is there an ubuntu security irc channel?
[07:59] <oblib> I have a weird problem and I'm not sure where to look:  I just updated my desktop to Dapper. For some reason, I can access my LAN, but cannot get to the internet. Another system on the LAN can get out to the internet. What did I break?
[07:59] <LordLandon> eyequeue: Sure, I'll download that then.
[07:59] <lordhelmet> oblib: what's the output of 'route'
[07:59] <easytiger> OT is reddit down?
[07:59] <ubnoob> how can i restore the original keyboard layout that was setup during installation?
[07:59] <Lane> Anyone know a good white hat type security channel?
[07:59] <lordhelmet> can somebody help me with the configuration of pam_group.so?
[07:59] <Drako60> this sucks
[08:00] <eyequeue> lordhelmet, email, not irc
[08:00] <woodgrain> I can't get the number pad to work with my MAC keyboard/ubuntu?
[08:00] <jake1> ok. can someone point me the right direction to find the ndiswrapper-source
[08:00] <checkob> hi
[08:00] <javiolo> oblib check the gateway
[08:00] <checkob> anyone knows if theres a problem with VT8233 sound cards
[08:00] <lordhelmet> eyequeue: for what? ubuntu security?
[08:00] <oblib> lordhelmet, 192.168.1.0 is the only destination listed
[08:00] <eyequeue> lordhelmet, right
[08:00] <oblib> javiolo, what gateway?
[08:01] <jake1> i've been looking all day long for it
[08:01] <lordhelmet> oblib: you don't have a route for the default gw then, 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1'
[08:01] <deoptima> anyone have a fix for the touchpad issues in kubuntu
[08:01] <eyequeue> lordhelmet, mailing list too, nor non-sensitive
[08:01] <oblib> lordhelmet, what is 'gw'
[08:01] <Drako60> so anyone know anything about getting UDMA working with Via and AM2 MB and AMD64 x2?
[08:01] <eyequeue> lordhelmet, mailing list too, For non-sensitive
[08:01] <jake1> is there away to get it off the CD
[08:01] <BOBSONATOR> Hey, my flash player's sound became fuzzy, can anyone help me?
[08:01] <lordhelmet> oblib: gateway...just type all that into the terminal....add a default route, through gateway listed by the ip addy
[08:01] <javiolo> is the update that crashed xorg fixed ?
[08:02] <oblib> lordhelmet, I get 'SIOCADDRT: File exists'
[08:02] <lordhelmet> eyequeue: thanx
[08:02] <woodgrain> my number pad doesn't work -- keyboard has NO num-lock .... (?)
[08:02] <eyequeue> lordhelmet, np
[08:02] <firestarter> any good site to download utilities for ubuntu without the synaptic?
[08:02] <lordhelmet> oblib: what's does 'route -n' say?
[08:02] <oblib> lordhelmet, the gateway on the listed route is *
[08:02] <Zebedee> Hi how are you all well I hope odd system this like it though ;-)
[08:03] <jake1> anyone?
[08:03] <oblib> lordhelmet, route -n lists my router IP address as a gateway
[08:03] <jake1> basically i got the wireless card drivers i need, and i got ndiswrapper-util but i cnt find ndiswrapper-source
[08:03] <lordhelmet> oblib: with default being the first field?
[08:03] <jake1> anywhere
[08:03] <jake1> for some reason
[08:04] <oblib> lordhelmet, you mean 'Destination' on the line with the Gateway? It's 0.0.0.0
[08:04] <jake1> and i cnt connect to the internet on the laptop so i cnt get it from the web
[08:04] <jake1> so anyone's help would be greatly appreciated
[08:05] <lordhelmet> oblib: when it's working, you should have two lines, one for destination being your network, with gateway *, and one for internet, destination default, gateway your router ip
[08:05] <Drako60> i need help getting DMA working someone must know something
[08:05] <lordhelmet> oblib: bring the interface down with ifdown, see what 'route' says, then bring back up
[08:06] <jake1> i cnt find it on the synaptic packaging application
[08:06] <xan> Hi, anyone can help me with wifi problems?
[08:06] <lordhelmet> xan: ask away
[08:06] <xan> I have Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG and wpa_supplicant
[08:06] <oblib> lordhelmet, I have two lines. Line 1 has a destination of 192.168.1.0, gw 0.0.0.0.   The second has destination '0.0.0.0' with a gw of 192.168.1.1
[08:07] <lordhelmet> xan: so do I :) apt-get install knetworkmanager
[08:07] <xan> ,,, I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:07] <xan> but in the step "wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w"
[08:07] <xan> i have problems
[08:07] <xan> output:
[08:07] <xan> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : No such device
[08:07] <xan> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE] : No such device
[08:07] <xan> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[08:07] <xan> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS] : No such device
[08:07] <xan> Could not set interface 'ath0' UP
[08:07] <xan> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE] : No such device
[08:07] <xan> ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETPARAM] : No such device
[08:08] <xan> ioctl[SIOCSIWAP] : No such device
[08:08] <JackMacOKC> pastebin
[08:08] <xan> ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS] : No such device
[08:08] <xan> Failed to initialize driver interface
[08:08] <javiolo> !pase
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pase - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <javiolo> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:08] <oblib> lordhelmet, that seems to have fixed it. thanks for the help -- I should have tried that first...
[08:08] <lordhelmet> oblib: that seems right...this is after ifdown/ifup?
[08:08] <lordhelmet> oblib: are you using dhcp?
[08:08] <firestarter> any good site to download utilities for ubuntu without the synaptic? msg plz
[08:08] <void^> xan: if you have an intel wireless chip, why are you trying to use an atheros driver?
[08:08] <harm_> firestarter what u mean?
[08:08] <oblib> lordhelmet, yeah, this is the first time Ubuntu has seen my new router so I guess it was trying to use the old one still or something
[08:09] <jake1> oh noes computer is acting up
[08:09] <lordhelmet> xan: all i did for mine, after the install of (kubuntu mind you) was apt-get install knetworkmanager and let it do the work for me
[08:09] <jake1> slowed down imensley
[08:09] <javiolo> firestarter enable repos and apt-cache search
[08:09] <jake1> calls for a restart
[08:09] <lordhelmet> xan: i tried gentoo before and it gave me problems with wireless
[08:09] <xan> sorry, the input I put is "wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w"
[08:10] <lordhelmet> xan: oh yeah....use -Dwext instead of -Dmadwifi
[08:10] <void^> xan: madwifi is a driver for atheros chipsets. don't see how that would work with intel wireless.
[08:10] <fuxord> hi
[08:10] <xan> Mmm.... ok. (so doc is wrong=
[08:10] <xan> )
[08:10] <fuxord> i am hacing trouble installing linux on an old machine, the cd wont boot =\
[08:10] <jake1> linux is so annoying
[08:10] <javiolo> fuxord check the bios
[08:10] <fuxord> i did, it seems in order
[08:10] <fuxord> but still wont boot
[08:11] <lordhelmet> oblib: what happens if you ifdown, then manually run 'dhclient eth0' or whatever your ethernet card is
[08:11] <xan> trying....
[08:11] <fuxord> i read about a boot floppy disk, where can i find that
[08:11] <je> how to install google?
[08:11] <xan> yes. it works
[08:11] <jake1> wtf
[08:11] <xan> thank you very much
[08:11] <javiolo> fuxord check the ubuntu wiki
[08:11] <xan> Anyone could edit this doc?
[08:11] <javiolo> !wiki
[08:11] <lordhelmet> xan: like i said though, i just used knetworkmanager (there is the same thing for gnome too) and it worked right away
[08:11] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[08:11] <jake1> now my computer won't start up
[08:11] <jake1> WTF
[08:11] <lordhelmet> xan: :D
[08:12] <jake1> AAHHHHHHHEURRRRGGGGGHJ
[08:12] <jake1> Linux is frustrating me
[08:12] <xan> lordhelmet: I use network-manager and not works
[08:12] <tritium> jake1: calm down please
[08:12] <lordhelmet> xan: hmm....oh well...if it works now then don't worry about it :)
[08:12] <jake1> sorry i'm angry cuz i've been trying to get this to work for 3 freaking days
[08:12] <xan> I think nm has not support for my card
[08:12] <xan> (I saw off page=
[08:13] <xan> well, I will continue the tutorial
[08:13] <xan> thanks
[08:13] <javiolo> jakel welcome to the linux world :p
[08:13] <lordhelmet> xan: glad we could help
[08:13] <jake1> i'm about to swap back to windoze
[08:14] <tritium> jake1: what are you setting up?
[08:14] <xan> too. I will say you what happens
[08:14] <pattyD> what is the apt-get package to install and set up the openssh server????
[08:14] <Vliegendehuiskat> sshd
[08:14] <lordhelmet> pattyD: ssh
[08:14] <javiolo> patty just make apt-get install ssh
[08:14] <lordhelmet> pattyD: apt-get install ssh
[08:14] <Rookie-> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:14] <jake1> tritium i'm trying to set up my wireless
[08:15] <jake1> broadcom
[08:15] <prower> Hello everybody :> Just a quick question...if I were installing Ubuntu on a system with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor (the ones with EM64T), would it be better to use the 32-bit x86 install or the AMD64 one?
[08:15] <lordhelmet> love the 3 different answers
[08:15] <pattyD> "Package ssh has no installation candidate"
[08:15] <fuxord> i downloaded a file called
[08:15] <JackMacOKC> heh, yeah no kidding
[08:15] <pattyD> any other ideas?
[08:15] <lordhelmet> prower: 32bit for less problems
[08:15] <fuxord> sbootmgr.dsk, which is a boot disk...i jsut cut/paste into the disk and insert to boot but nothing happens =\
[08:15] <JackMacOKC> pattyD: the correct one is "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" i believe
[08:15] <Rookie-> prower - depence on your RAM - if you have more then 4 GB ram, set up 64 bit, otherwise 32
[08:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> Pattyd its sshd
[08:15] <JackMacOKC> hah
[08:15] <prower> lordhelmet: Ahh, I see :> Thanks
[08:15] <oblib> lordhelmet, what are you hoping to see with the dhclient?
[08:15] <JackMacOKC> its one of those 5
[08:16] <fuxord> how can i make a boot floppy disk/
[08:16] <tritium> jake1: I sent you the ndiswrapper wiki page earlier
[08:16] <pattyD> ok
[08:16] <lordhelmet> prower: 64bit for really specialty things.....but i would just play with 32bit...i have gentoo 64 at home on am2, it's nice, but the 64bit is nothing to brag about
[08:16] <prower> Rookie-: I don't now, though I was planning on upgrading...as long as both the cores are supported I'd be happy with 32 bit
[08:16] <jake1> i looked at it tritium
[08:16] <oblib> lordhelmet, it just gets its ip address from the router
[08:16] <jake1> but i cnt get the stupid ndiswrapper-source from anywhere
[08:16] <pattyD> I just installed ubuntu not 20 minutes ago, the ssh client is installed, but not the server
[08:16] <Drako60> is there a channel specifically for Ubuntu 64?
[08:16] <jake1> i think that is all i need
[08:16] <lordhelmet> oblib: does it properly get an ip address and setup the routes?
[08:16] <prower> lordhelmet: Ahh, I see :> I guess it's more relevant if you have a huge amount of RAM (or you need gigantic integer support)
[08:16] <Rookie-> prower - well, if you dont have atleast 4 GB of RAM - keep/stay at 32
[08:16] <pattyD> I tried both sshd and openssh-server both don't work, any ideas?
[08:16] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: i don't believe so
[08:17] <pettern> how do i change the encoding for the terminal?
[08:17] <fuxord> how can i make a boot floppy disk?
[08:17] <lordhelmet> prower: yea we use it here at the university (of alberta) for matlab and stuff like that
[08:17] <oblib> lordhelmet, the route looks identical to what it was before, but the internet works
[08:17] <_gpg_> salut
[08:17] <tritium> !info ndiswrapper-source
[08:17] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-source: Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 133 kB, installed size 184 kB
[08:17] <stian> Would it be difficult for me to make a version of the desktop install cd that has openssh-server on by default?
[08:17] <JackMacOKC> pattyD: have you enabled your repositories?
[08:17] <_gpg_> grrrr m really nub, sry
[08:17] <lordhelmet> prower: and on our server, but for the general use 32 bit is enough
[08:17] <Drako60> lordhelmet, you using VIA or NForce 4 on that board?
[08:17] <pattyD> I have not  done anything other than install from cd
[08:17] <tritium> jake1: it is in the universe repository.  Make sure you are setup to use it.
[08:17] <JackMacOKC> !repos > pattyD
[08:17] <pattyD> ok I will check the sources file
[08:17] <Rookie-> no idea to use 64 bit system unless you have 6 or 8GB ram
[08:17] <lordhelmet> oblib: w00t, so what does your /etc/network/interfaces file say about eth0?
[08:17] <jake1> i am
[08:18] <oblib> lordhelmet, well, not identical. before if I just did 'route' it would only list the first entry, and hang until I pressed CTRL+C, now it finds a 'default'
[08:18] <prower> Cool...well thanks to everyone who answered, must get back to the installing part ;> Be back later
[08:18] <Rookie-> another drink
[08:18] <oblib> lordhelmet, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:18] <lordhelmet> oblib: ahh! if route hangs, use route -n and it will not resolve hostnames, so you can see the actual values
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> pattyD: info on repos and ssh here ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:18] <jake1> i am setup to use univers i think
[08:18] <Deacont23> Is there a utility in the command line like the task manager? I know of GlancePlus from HP-UNIX servers I worked on
[08:18] <jake1> i selected it from software properties
[08:18] <xiaomai> i've got a dual-head geforce card, but i can't get the second head to work... i'm using the open-source drivers.  googling seems to indicate that it's not possible to use the second display unless you go w/ the proprietary drivers--is this true?
[08:18] <oblib> lordhelmet, in any case, I think the problem is solved
[08:18] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: i have 64bit proc, but am using 32bit ubuntu..a lot more packages built for it, so its a little less headache. unless you havea specific need for 64bit, no real reason to use it.
[08:19] <oblib> lordhelmet, thanks for the help
[08:19] <lordhelmet> oblib: okay try 'ifconfig eth0 down' then 'ifup eth0' again and see if it comes up properly (it should...)
[08:19] <jake1> but the only thing listed is ndiswrapper-util
[08:19] <hasan> how do I know which kernels are installed and which one I'm running?
[08:19] <javiolo> fuxord https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28floppy%29
[08:19] <jake1> not ndiswrapper-source
[08:19] <lordhelmet> hasan: uname -r
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> uname -a
[08:19] <covOPprometheus> Hello, I'm having trouble activating my wlan-card, can anyone assist?
[08:19] <oblib> lordhelmet, it did come up properly the first time I did a down -> up cycle
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> Deacont23: in KDE KSysguard
[08:19] <lordhelmet> hasan: and look in /boot
[08:19] <Warbo> Hi, I've got a really weird problem with X. Can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21661
[08:19] <pattyD> ok uncommented the universe lines and ran an "apt-get update" should I be able to install the ssh server now?
[08:19] <lordhelmet> oblib: okay cool :D
[08:19] <JackMacOKC> pattyD: yes
[08:20] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, mine aren't exactly specific, but i do alot of encoding and 64-bit is faster, if i could get UDMA turned on for some reason it won't let me no matter what i do
[08:20] <pattyD> so sshd does not work and neither does openssh-server, any idea?
[08:20] <hasan> lordhelmet: there was a rpm command in fedora that shows all installed kernels, i am not sure if any are there in UBUNTU
[08:20] <Vliegendehuiskat> pattyD
[08:20] <pattyD> this is a brand new install, I have not touched a thing
[08:20] <Vliegendehuiskat> sudo apt-get install sshd
[08:20] <jake1> tritium any other suggestions?
[08:20] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: i think even for encoding, the performance boost you'll see using the 64bit kernel is negligle
[08:20] <Warbo> hasan: ls /lib/modules?
[08:21] <pettern> how do i change the encoding for the terminal?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: you need you install it first.
[08:21] <mnvl> JackMacOKC, in that case why have 64bit?
[08:21] <JackMacOKC> mnvl: for the future
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> pattyD: so you didn't bother to look at the url I gave you
[08:21] <pattyD> "E: Couldn't find package sshd
[08:21] <JackMacOKC> mnvl: when it does make a difference
[08:21] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, in a properly configured system encoding can be increased by 10%
[08:21] <lordhelmet> pattyD: ubuntu doesn't have it installed by default, but i always just 'apt-get install ssh' and things work
[08:21] <pattyD> is the error mesage I get
[08:21] <hasan> wra: thanx,  how to remove any one ?
[08:21] <pattyD> oh install "ssh"
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:21] <pattyD> oko
[08:22] <hasan> warlocky: thanx,  how to remove any one ?
[08:22] <Warbo> hasan: They are in packages called linux-image<version>, so just use Synaptic
[08:22] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: i suppose if thats all you do, then it would be worth it, but i haven't seen real good benchmarks to suggest that
[08:22] <hasan> warb: ok
[08:22] <pattyD> "E Package openssh-server has no installation candidate"
[08:22] <pattyD> is it "ssh" ?
[08:22] <frying_fish> pattyD: just install ssh
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: enable universe and multiverse
[08:22] <JackMacOKC> pattyD: try just ssh, also did you enable multiverse?
[08:22] <pattyD> ahh multiverse
[08:22] <jake1> i am so confused
[08:23] <geser> openssh-server is in main
[08:23] <jake1> why cnt my wireless card just freaking work
[08:23] <pattyD> I just enable universe
[08:23] <Deacont23> Is there a utility in the console (Not GUI) like the task manager? I know of GlancePlus from HP-UNIX servers I worked on
[08:23] <natural20> can't upload via ftp, can't access email, can load certain webpages...  wtf is wrong with my comp?
[08:23] <lordhelmet> pattyD: ssh is the meta package, but openssh-server should work too...
[08:23] <Warbo> jake1: What type is it? Maybe the manufacturer doesn't want you to use it
[08:23] <covOPprometheus> Hello, I'm having trouble activating my wlan-card, can anyone assist?
[08:23] <Warbo> !wifi
[08:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:23] <jake1> Warbo: no other peopl have this same machine and got it to work
[08:23] <jake1> but seemingly i cnt
[08:23] <pattyD> ok well "ssh" is doing something
[08:23] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, well i don't rely on benchmarks, but real world experiance, and from what i've experianced i've gotten a 5-10% increase atleast, but there definant disadvantages to 64-bit userland, one of which is my current DMA problem
[08:24] <mianos> re
[08:24] <pattyD> well its just "waiting on headers"
[08:24] <jake1> Warbo: i looked there, but they are just telling me to get the ndiswrapper-source
[08:24] <jake1> and i cnt get it
[08:24] <mianos> hey guys, big problem here with ubuntu after an upgrade 10 minutes agoe
[08:24] <jake1> i've looked everywhere
[08:24] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: so whats the issue with your udma? what have you tried thus far? i need to tweak my udma settings myself. something i haven't done yet
[08:24] <Warbo> jake1: Ndiswrapper? Looks like your manufacturer doesn't want you to use it
[08:24] <mianos> it looks like http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[08:24] <pattyD> are there ANY repositories that I can change to that are a little quicker, it seems like every repo I have seen is totally unreliable and slow...
[08:24] <mianos> but i think it isn't that case
[08:24] <mianos> there is no update
[08:25] <mianos> i reinstalled xserver-xorg-core
[08:25] <jake1> warbo: my manufacturer is broadcom and many people with the same card have gotten it to work
[08:25] <mianos> no change
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: just change your mirrors.
[08:25] <mianos> with startx my X starts fine
[08:25] <jake1> that does not address the reason why ndiswrapper is not listed in synaptic
[08:25] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, UDMA gets turned off right away, befor it even starts checking the root FS, and i can't turn it on
[08:25] <mianos> any idea?
[08:25] <Warbo> jake1: ndiswrapper is a hack, and I haven't used it myself. I went with RaLink, who have a driver in the kernel by default
[08:25] <jake1> if i can get ndiswrapper-source then i am all set
[08:25] <`richiefrich`> mianos what doesnt it load with then gdm/xmd ?
[08:25] <`richiefrich`> xdm*
[08:25] <pattyD> what is a mirror? that does not time out all the time?
[08:25] <pattyD> what is a "good" mrror
[08:26] <covOPprometheus> !mirror
[08:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> I tried au. -- that worked.
[08:26] <mianos> `richiefrich`, i dont understand
[08:26] <pattyD> is there a list somewhere of total versus used bandwidth for given mirrors?
[08:26] <geser> jake1: ndiswrapper-source is in universe
[08:26] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, i've tried hdparm which says operation not allowed, the kernel i compiled won't boot unless i tell it the initrd.img, kernel panic "Not Syncing: VFS Unknown root FS on unkown-block(0,0)
[08:26] <`richiefrich`> mianos u said startx works.. then whats the issue?
[08:26] <jake1> geser: how come i cnt find it then
[08:26] <pattyD> ok cool ssh is installed, thanks alot guys
[08:27] <mianos> gdm can't bring up X
[08:27] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, if i tell it the initrd.img the kernel panic stops
[08:27] <Warbo> Can someone take a look at this and tell me what is wrong? (apart from the obvious) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21661
[08:27] <mianos> looks like this: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[08:27] <mianos> but there is no update
[08:27] <Rookie-> pattyD - dont forget the client ...
[08:27] <mianos> and i did the upgrade 15 minutes ago
[08:27] <jake1> geser i am set up to look at universe
[08:27] <jake1> i think i am anyways
[08:27] <TheGame> hey
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> client is installed by default.
[08:27] <jake1> i dnt know how to tell
[08:27] <geser> jake1: have you enabled the universe repository and updated the the lists?
[08:27] <covOPprometheus> I've installed a windows driver for my wlan-card with nsdiwrapper, hardware and driver are both recognized, the device is listed in the network window, but I can't activate it properly. Can anyone assist?
[08:27] <TheGame> anybody here have any experience with the slab on ubuntu
[08:27] <pattyD> it seems to have the client installed by default
[08:28] <mianos> gdm-.log
[08:28] <mianos> `richiefrich`, Fatal server error:
[08:28] <mianos> could not open default font 'fixed'
[08:28] <jake1> geser: i cnt cuz i cnt get online
[08:28] <`richiefrich`> mianos  do gdm is broken
[08:28] <mianos> hr
[08:28] <jake1> cuz my wireless isn't working
[08:28] <mianos> ?
[08:28] <JackMacOKC> Drako60:hmmm..i'm not sure on that one. i'm going to do some digging for you and if i find anything i'll let you know
[08:28] <mianos> `richiefrich`, realy?
[08:28] <`richiefrich`> mianos u said --> startx works?
[08:28] <mianos> yes
[08:28] <mianos> fine
[08:28] <looktj> Hi
[08:28] <`richiefrich`> mianos then it's not X
[08:28] <jake1> so i cnt update my repositorys
[08:28] <`richiefrich`> mianos then it's gdm
[08:28] <mianos> Yes i think so too
[08:28] <DShepherd> mianos: you run compiz?
[08:28] <mianos> i will try to reinstall
[08:28] <Warbo> mianos: Does it say "module bitmap cannot be found" and the same for pcidata?
[08:28] <`richiefrich`> mianos then use startx
[08:28] <mianos> DShepherd, yes i doo
[08:29] <xan> Hi,
[08:29] <mianos> Warbo, wait a second
[08:29] <looktj> I need to know how to add users and passwords in proftpd
[08:29] <DShepherd> mianos:hmm  i think thats what might have broke your X
[08:29] <`richiefrich`> DShepherd yo yo
[08:29] <DShepherd> mianos: some font issue maybe
[08:29] <xan> I tried again wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w
[08:29] <DShepherd> `richiefrich`: hey
[08:29] <geser> jake1: that's bad. then you have to download all needed packages and transfer them using an usb stick or a floppy
[08:29] <jake1> Could not download all repository indexes: The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems.
[08:29] <covOPprometheus> I've installed a windows driver for my wlan-card with nsdiwrapper, hardware and driver are both recognized, the device is listed in the network window, but I can't activate it properly. Can anyone assist?
[08:29] <DShepherd> mianos: I am not sure though
[08:29] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, i didn't have this problem with NForce3, its just since i switched to a VIA VT8237 AM2 board that its started, upgraded to a AMD64 x2
[08:29] <Warbo> !easysource
[08:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:29] <mianos> DShepherd, but it was all fine
[08:29] <xan> following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:29] <mianos> hm...
[08:29] <mianos> mom
[08:29] <jake1> geser: aren't these suppose to be on the CD
[08:30] <jake1> ?
[08:30] <`richiefrich`> DShepherd  whats crackin ?  anything new
[08:30] <xan> and I get # wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w
[08:30] <xan> Associated with 00:13:49:01:b7:1c
[08:30] <xan> WPA: CCMP is used, but EAPOL-Key descriptor version (1) is not 2.
[08:30] <xan> WPA: CCMP is used, but EAPOL-Key descriptor version (1) is not 2.
[08:30] <xan> CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys
[08:30] <xan> Trying to associate with 00:13:49:01:b7:1c (SSID='3141592653' freq=0 MHz)
[08:30] <xan> Associated with 00:13:49:01:b7:1c
[08:30] <DShepherd> mianos: hmm trye
[08:30] <xan> WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[08:30] <xan> CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys
[08:30] <xan> CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 2 received
[08:30] <geser> universe isn't on the CD
[08:30] <Warbo> !paste > xan
[08:30] <looktj> !flood
[08:30] <`richiefrich`> !pastebin > xan
[08:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:30] <xan> what is worng?
[08:30] <pattyD> ok so now I am trying to "apt-get install apache2" and I get this error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:30] <pattyD>   apache2: Depends: apache2-mpm-worker (= 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed or
[08:30] <pattyD>                     apache2-mpm-prefork (= 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed or
[08:30] <pattyD>                     apache2-mpm-perchild (= 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed"
[08:30] <DShepherd> !paste > xan
[08:30] <DShepherd> !paste > pattyD
[08:30] <mianos> Warbo, no
[08:30] <pattyD> my bad
[08:30] <`richiefrich`> xan flood
[08:30] <xan> !paste
[08:30] <`richiefrich`> !pastebin > xan
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> pattyD: sudo apt-get update
[08:30] <Warbo> mianos: OK, just that mine is saying that :(
[08:30] <pattyD> I forgot
[08:31] <xan> !pastebin
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:31] <natural20> can't upload via ftp, can't access email, can't load certain webpages...  wtf is wrong with my comp?
[08:31] <mianos> hm - how can i fix this prob. with the fixed font
[08:31] <`richiefrich`> xan u did that lo0k in your pm's
[08:31] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, my dmesg does report "VP-IDE Unknown VIA Southbridge, disabling DMA"
[08:31] <xan> pm?
[08:31] <looktj>  I need to know how to add users and passwords in proftpd
[08:31] <DShepherd> xan: private message
[08:31] <xan> mmm... sorry I have ubotu
[08:31] <pattyD> ok I did the apt-get update, but I still get errors about unmet dependencies when trying to apt-get apache2, any ideas?
[08:32] <Rookie-> looktj - man proftd
[08:32] <Rookie-> ftpd
[08:32] <dtygel> eyequeue: thanks a lot for the help: I installed successfully the ubuntu-server
[08:32] <looktj> pattyD: do aptitude upgrade also
[08:32] <eyequeue> dtygel, glad to hear it
[08:32] <dtygel> eyequeue: now I need to install ubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <mianos> i will try it without Xorg-air
[08:32] <eyequeue> dtygel, yeah
[08:32] <mianos> mmom
[08:32] <`richiefrich`> mom ?
[08:32] <Warbo> I'll try to install Xorg-air to see if that works
[08:32] <Tonren> Hey Seveas, are you around?
[08:32] <dtygel> eyequeue: but I'm not being successfull to insert the desktop cd in sources.list file
[08:33] <eyequeue> dtygel, apt-cdrom?
[08:33] <dtygel> eyequeu: this would save me a lot of time, instead of downloading again 600MB of files...
[08:33] <StAnLeY^> hello, assuming Ekiga's videochat doesn't work, is there any other client capable of video chat ?
[08:33] <dtygel> eyequeue: i'1ve done apt-cdrom add
[08:33] <looktj> Rookie-: I don't understand
[08:33] <eyequeue> dtygel, sudo with it?
[08:33] <pattyD> so is there any other magic invovled in being able to "apt-get" apache2? should this just work out of the box???
[08:33] <xan> well, anyone could help me?
[08:33] <Rookie-> looktj - type man proftpd
[08:33] <dtygel> eyequeue: yep
[08:33] <looktj> where?
[08:33] <eyequeue> dtygel, i'm out of ideas beyond that
[08:33] <Rookie-> console
[08:33] <looktj> ok
[08:33] <dtygel> eyequeue: but then, when I do apt-get update and afterward apt-get install, it uses only internet
[08:33] <xan> I don't know what's follow
[08:33] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: have you got sdparm?, not hdparm?
[08:34] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: or are you using regular IDE drives
[08:34] <mianos> re
[08:34] <mianos> ok, it is working find
[08:34] <mianos> -d +e
[08:34] <dtygel> eyequeue: it looks only at the internet repositories...
[08:34] <mianos> i think xorg-air (aiglx) is broken
[08:34] <AmirMohammad> I'm trying to install MySQL 4.1, but:
[08:34] <AmirMohammad> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:34] <CarlFK> what package will give me PythonMagick ? http://www.python.net/crew/zack/pymagick/
[08:34] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, i have both PATA and SATA drives, not sure if i had sdparm or not, so yeah regular IDE and SATA
[08:34] <DShepherd> mianos: apt-cache policy fontconfig-config
[08:35] <meathead> I got an error compiling rtorrent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21663 someone please explain how I can fix it?
[08:35] <eyequeue> dtygel, if you can find the right sources.list line from somewhere online maybe you can psate it in at the top of the file?  no other creative ideas come tomind right now
[08:35] <meathead> nvm
[08:35] <eyequeue> anyone here have a dapper cd in their sources.list right now, for dtygel?
[08:36] <mianos> DShepherd, he can not find the package?!
[08:36] <mianos> should i install it
[08:36] <mianos> there is no package called so
[08:36] <dtygel> eyequeue: the line is correct: "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060806.1)] / dapper main restricted"
[08:36] <jake1> oh wait
[08:36] <jake1> i jst got it
[08:36] <covOPprometheus> I've installed a windows driver for my wlan-card with nsdiwrapper, hardware and driver are both recognized, the device is listed in the network window, but I can't activate it properly. Can anyone assist?
[08:36] <jake1> i plugged in via ethernet
[08:36] <jake1> it worked
[08:36] <looktj> Rookie-: doesnt show me how
[08:36] <eyequeue> dtygel, oh, i thought it had like an md5 of the cd in there too or something
[08:36] <jake1> but now i need to figure out how to install it
[08:36] <natural20> can't upload via ftp, can't access email, can't load certain webpages...  wtf is wrong with my comp?
[08:37] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, looks like there might be a patch
[08:37] <W_McL> are you behind a router or firewall?
[08:37] <g333k_work> is it possible to install streamtuner in ubuntu?
[08:37] <mianos> DShepherd, an idea?
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> g333k_work: sure
[08:38] <g333k_work> fyrestrtr, what repo ?
[08:38] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to update firefox from xxxx5 to xxxx6? thanx
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> !info streamtuner
[08:38] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 581 kB, installed size 2064 kB
[08:38] <meathead_> make[2] : *** [test_compatibility.o]  Error 1
[08:38] <Tonren> covOPprometheus: Please pastebin the output of your iwconfig
[08:38] <meathead_> what's that mean?
[08:38] <Tonren> covOPprometheus: Have you done modprobe ndiswrapper?
[08:39] <jikes> trying to get wirless to work, but lspci says unknown device on IBM R60 laptop. any ideas?
[08:39] <Seveas> Tonren, ?
[08:39] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: is ubuntu installed on your pata or sata drive?
[08:39] <Tonren> jikes: Are you using ndiswrapper or other drivers?
[08:39] <jake1> ok i got ndiswrapper-source
[08:39] <jake1> and the util
[08:39] <Tonren> Seveas: I'm having trouble getting the GPG key from your repo @ theplayboymansion.net
[08:39] <covOPprometheus> Tonren: yep, but I upgraded to dapper, so it might be worth a try to do that again, could you repeat me how?
[08:40] <pattyD> ok, so I am lost, I cant seem to install apache2 on a fresh install, the command just complains about "The following packages have unmet dependencies", any hints?
[08:40] <jake1> now what do i type (format that is) to install my wireless driver
[08:40] <g333k_work> fyrestrtr, I have ubuntu 6.06 is it dapper?
[08:40] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, pata
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> g333k_work: yes
[08:40] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, check https://launchpad.net/distros/baltix/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/55929
[08:40] <Tonren> covOPprometheus: You mean, your wireless was working in Breezy but you upgraded to Dapper and now it's not?
[08:40] <Seveas> Tonren, what's the problem?
[08:40] <g333k_work> fyrestrtr, but I dont have streamtuner in my repos
[08:40] <covOPprometheus> nope
[08:40] <jikes> Tonren: tried to compile ieee80211-1.2.15, but no succes
[08:40] <darkowl> Im back
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> g333k_work: enable universe and multiverse repos.
[08:40] <dtygel> eyequeue: no: no need to put the md5
[08:40] <teicah> g333k_work: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper -- there is a section about streamtunner
[08:41] <g333k_work> fyrestrtr, oooh I got it Thanks
[08:41] <Draconicus> We're on a computer that hasn't sync'd it's clock since the installation. Suddenly sudo is saying that the timestamp is "too far into the future" or some such. Syncing to an ntp server only seemed to make it worse. Any ideas?
[08:41] <Tonren> Seveas: When I copy & paste the line on the site, I get this error: Cannot write to `1135D466.gpg' (Broken pipe).
[08:41] <dtygel> eyequeue: the cdrom line is created automatically by apt-cdrom add command
[08:41] <teicah> and how to add repos
[08:41] <Don_jr> Hello, I was using ndiswrapper to try and get my netgear WG511 wireless card working, I have got a new one that I saw on a couple sites may work out of the box, do I need to change anything with the ndiswrapper before I plug it in?
[08:41] <dtygel> eyequeue: let's see if someone else has an insight:
[08:41] <dfgas> is there a way to get ubuntu to see my new monitor and adjust the settings for it?
[08:41] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: ahh, yes, indeed....will be part of edgy
[08:41] <darkowl> can anyone tell me if there is some documentation about making a disrto based on ubuntu ?
[08:41] <RvGaTe> shit, lost my ubuntu cd :(
[08:41] <Draconicus> Kind of an emergency situation. I'm fixing a computer for a client.
[08:42] <`richiefrich`> d/l a new one :P
[08:42] <dtygel> pple: I cannot add the cd-rom as a repository using command-line at ubuntu-server, any help?
[08:42] <xan> hi
[08:42] <W_McL> eyequeue: also there's an ubuntu-cd auto recognition function in the graphical package manager
[08:42] <Draconicus> I'm used to more complicated Linux distros. This sort of problem has never happened with them. Ubuntu is a new thing for me.
[08:42] <Seveas> Tonren, then you didn't copy-paste properly, that command does not write to something.gpg
[08:42] <xan> can anyone solve my problem?
[08:42] <W_McL> if you insert an ubuntu cd it will ask you if you want to add it
[08:42] <Tonren> Seveas: Uh-oh, wait a minute... I think I may have called you out on a false alarm.  This appears to entirely be a problem with my apt.
[08:42] <darkowl> can anyone tell me if there is some documentation about making a distro based on ubuntu ?
[08:42] <g333k_work> Everytime that I want to load synaptic or another system app I recevive this message: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization, why?
[08:42] <tech> please help covOPprometheus with his wlan, you lazy ubuntuers
[08:43] <Tonren> Seveas: If I just wget the GPG key and then do cat key.gpg | sudo apt-key add, it gives me thsi error: gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[08:43] <g333k_work> Everytime that I want to load synaptic or another system app I recevive this message: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file, why?
[08:43] <Seveas> Tonren, you forgot the -
[08:43] <Seveas> sudo apt-key add -
[08:43] <jake1> ok.... i think i got driver installed
[08:43] <jake1> it says driver installed, hardware present
[08:43] <jake1> but it doesn't show up in iwconfig
[08:44] <Tonren> Seveas: Ah.  It was on the next line in the site.  I are jeenyus.
[08:44] <Tonren> Seveas: Thanks.  Sorry to bug you about weaksauce problems
[08:44] <dtygel> to all: how do I make apt-get update read my cd-rom, from the command line?
[08:44] <Drako60> JackMacOKC, any idea on the kernel panic?
[08:44] <jake1> nor does the interface show up in the networking tool under system->administration
[08:44] <jake1> i'm gonna try restarting
[08:45] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 are u getting a kernel panic at boot?
[08:45] <jake1> and see if it shows up then
[08:45] <JackMacOKC> Drako60: no, sorry.
[08:45] <g333k_work> dtygel, edit the sources.list file
[08:45] <dtygel> g333k_work: I've done it
[08:45] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, yes, not syncing, VFS unknown root FS on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:45] <typhoid> hi, im wondering if there is an addon that makes my desktops pop out when i mouse over them, so i can see wath is on them..
[08:45] <stian> Greetings, does anyone know how I can activate remote desktop (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop) from the command line?
[08:45] <g333k_work> dtygel, Did you added your cdrom?
[08:45] <dtygel> g333k: i've included the cd line using "apt-cdrom add"
[08:46] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  did you configure it yourself
[08:46] <jake1> ok.... one more thing
[08:46] <Seveas> Tonren, heh, indeed ... I should be fixing that
[08:46] <Draconicus> Your entire distribution is based off of Sudo. Sudo broke in a brand new system because the time was incorrect. Can't somebody help me?
[08:46] <Don_jr> I changed out my netgear WG511 wireless card for a dlink WNA-1330.  Do I need to alter something with ndiswrapper in order for this to be seen by ubuntu?
[08:46] <jake1> why isn't eth1 showing up at all anywhere
[08:46] <jake1> i jsut installed the drivers
[08:46] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, yes, and i have reiserfs, ext2, and ext3 building in the kernel, no modules
[08:46] <g333k_work> dtygel, man apt-cdrom
[08:46] <Warbo> OK, Xorg-air has "fixed" my problem
[08:46] <Tonren> Seveas: Uh-oh... I think your repo might have broken my apt.  :\
[08:46] <Paradoxx> !bluetooth
[08:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:47] <stian> !remote desktop
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <Seveas> Tonren, that's bad -- what's the problem?
[08:47] <dtygel> g333k: it worked allright: "sudo apt-cdrom add": it included succesfully the cd-rom line to the file sources.list
[08:47] <thrghpt> ok could you give me that liink to the mp3 info again please?
[08:47] <tech> sup covOPprometheus?
[08:47] <Warbo> !restricted > thrghpt
[08:47] <tech> hows mexico?
[08:47] <Tonren> Seveas: I updated and it couldn't install xorg-driver-fglrx, and got an "It is impossible to update or install new software" error.  I'm doing apt-get install -f now
[08:47] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  then did you do --> Character devices .. or did you add your IDE controler
[08:47] <jake1> anyone able to help?"
[08:47] <Tonren> Seveas: It's a shame that that pkg broke, because I don't even use it.  I gave up on XGL.
[08:47] <jake1> i got the driver installed
[08:48] <covOPprometheus> not much tech, no one's answering
[08:48] <`richiefrich`> Drako60   can you pastebin ---> lspci ?
[08:48] <jake1> according to ndiswrapper -l it says driver present, hardware present
[08:48] <covOPprometheus> tech, well one, but, thinks he's afk
[08:48] <darkowl> can anyone tell me if there is some documentation about making a distro based on ubuntu ?
[08:48] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, character devices, possibly not, IDE controller is a very possible problem but the kernel patch i found should fix that i hope
[08:48] <Tonren> Man, I would LOVE a command line pastebin applet
[08:48] <Seveas> Tonren, if you want to use my fglrx packages, read seveas.theplayboymansion.net/dists/dapper-seveas/drivers/
[08:48] <jake1> but it does not show up in the networking app
[08:48] <Warbo> Tonren: It's called lynx
[08:48] <jake1> nor does it show up on iwconfig
[08:49] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  i can roll u one real quick and give you me that
[08:49] <Tonren> Warbo: Oooo.  I didn't think about that.
[08:49] <darkowl> lynx=pastebin applet ?WTF ?
[08:49] <Warbo> :)
[08:49] <raknam> can anyone recommend a bit torrent client otther than azureus that allows you to select specific files to download from a torrent?
[08:49] <Tonren> Seveas: Not found...
[08:49] <Tonren> raknam: sudo aptitude install bittornado bittornado-gui
[08:49] <Warbo> lynx=web browser, pastebin=web site, lynx=pastebin on CLI
[08:49] <MrSteve> hey all
[08:49] <Tonren> Warbo = winner
[08:49] <Seveas> sorry, seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/drivers/
[08:49] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, http://pastebin.com/775856
[08:49] <darkowl> LYNX IS A WEB BROWSER
[08:49] <Warbo> darkowl: see above
[08:50] <Seveas> darkowl, please drop the caps
[08:50] <darkowl> so dont tell people its pastebin
[08:50] <`richiefrich`> Drako60   give me a sec..
[08:50] <Warbo> darkowl: Tonren wanted to get on pastebin on CLI
[08:50] <MrSteve> quick quesition would the xserver issue cause a fresh install xserver issue im haiving
[08:50] <Don_jr> Sometimes ubuntu hangs when starting up on 'loading hardware drivers"  If I open and close the CD-rom and restart the computer it will go on past it, is there any way to fix that?
[08:50] <misieq> how can i make mplayer play movie in root?
[08:50] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to update firefox from xxxx5 to xxxx6? thanx
[08:50] <meathead_> The ncurses library is required!
[08:50] <darkowl> can anyone tell me if there is some documentation about making a distro based on ubuntu ?
[08:50] <meathead_> anyone know why compiling a program gives me this error: The ncurses library is required!
[08:50] <bbrazil> darkowl: as you mention it, gnewsense.org
[08:50] <Pulshion> misieq: sudo mplayer
[08:51] <misieq> meathead_: then the ncurses library is needed
[08:51] <Tonren> Seveas: I read that doc, but am still not sure why I'm getting the error
[08:51] <DShepherd> meathead_: cause it is
[08:51] <natural20> can't upload via ftp, can't access email, can't load certain webpages...  wtf is wrong with my comp?
[08:51] <bbrazil> darkowl: software -> svn
[08:51] <Warbo> darkowl: I don't know of any documentation, but it would be pretty easy. There is documentation available for rebuiling the LiveCD, and if you want to leech off Ubuntu's repositories then it would be even easier
[08:51] <misieq> Pulshion: no, not AS root, IN root. to desktop
[08:51] <Seveas> Tonren, basically, you need to install ubuntu-fglrx-something if you want to use fglrx from my repo
[08:51] <meathead_> as far as I can cell ncurses IS installed, since I run other ncurses programs
[08:51] <meathead_> misieq: what's the package name that should be installed
[08:51] <misieq> meathead_: do you have ncurses-dev installed?
[08:52] <meathead_> DShepherd: what's the package name that should be installed
[08:52] <sethk> meathead_, you have to install the -dev part
[08:52] <meathead_> ahhh
[08:52] <meathead_> k
[08:52] <meathead_> thx
[08:52] <Warbo> misieq: xwinwrap does that for accelerated X servers (like AiGLX or XGL)
[08:52] <DShepherd> meathead_: listen to sethk
[08:52] <Pulshion> Does anyone know how to update firefox from xxxx5 to xxxx6? thanx
[08:52] <misieq> Warbo: and x.org?
[08:52] <qatsi> ok, im having some fights with my keyboard. I need the english keyboard layout, so its the only one in the list, but apparently its working with Spanish layout...i dont know what to do, every time i log in, it changes the setting, can anyone help me ?
[08:52] <DShepherd> Pulshion: you dont need to. the 6 is a fix for windows machines
[08:52] <imping> I'm trying to use the Ubuntu live CD on my new Toshiba R25. I get the following error message when booting up: "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)." Can anyone help?
[08:52] <Warbo> misieq: I don't know. I have never seen it done outside Compiz, and it is in the compiz repos
[08:52] <misieq> there was some option like --root or -window root but i don't remember..
[08:53] <meathead_> grrr. now it just took 15 minutes to install libtorrent, and it's saying it's not installed
[08:53] <Don_jr> In my network settings it shows my wirless connection interface as ath0 is this correct? or should it be wlan0?
[08:53] <MrSteve> imping i think its the same issue they are currently having with xserver
[08:53] <thrghpt> im having problems... to enable repository in dapper drake 6.6 go to system:administration:"software properties" which doesn't exist in whatever version i have
[08:53] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- they have it for linux too tho, 1.5.0.6
[08:53] <Warbo> Don_jr: Some drivers make different names (mine is ra0)
[08:53] <MrSteve> and the recent xserver upgrade
[08:53] <DShepherd> Pulshion: are you sure?
[08:53] <Pulshion> yes
[08:53] <janbanan> Is gcursor the application for installing cursor-themes on dapper?
and how do you think it should be easy ?
[08:53] <misieq> meathead_: if you want to compile sth that uses "pkgname" library, you have to install "pkgname-dev"
[08:53] <dannym> hmm... how do I install a font so that X can use it?
[08:54] <Don_jr> warbo okay, when I go in to 'activate' the interface and click OK, nothign happens
[08:54] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
[08:54] <DShepherd> Pulshion: you are right indeed
[08:54] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  what are u using ?  ext3 reiserFS ?
[08:54] <DShepherd> Pulshion: well you can greb it from there..
[08:54] <dannym> imping: sounds like your graphics adapter is unsupported? What does "lspci" say your graphics adapter is?
[08:54] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, reiserFS
[08:54] <meathead_> misieq: I see now, thanks
[08:54] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- haha, thanx lol...and what do i do next? why is my update thing shaded out
[08:54] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, currently 64-bit kernel, dual core AMD64
[08:55] <Warbo> darkowl: Making an Ubuntu-based distro which leeches off Ubuntu's mirrors would just be a matter of changing the CD and installing different packages by default. If you want to be really different, like Mepis, then you would have to set up your own apt repositories (there are easy tools to do this)
[08:55] <TheGame> hey
[08:55] <imping> lspci...don't know what that  is. My comp has an intel 950 card.
[08:55] <jake1> ok.... i'm almost there
[08:55] <Warbo> Don_jr: You might have to configure it first (and using a static IP will always make it "activate" instantly, even if the connection has not been established)
[08:55] <DShepherd> Pulshion: tar -xzvf firefox-1.5.0.6.tar.gz && cd firefox && ./firefox #someting like that
 yes but how would i do that ? i want to install different packages and burn it to cd ?
[08:56] <Warbo> darkowl: Hang on a sec...
[08:56] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 did u add the SATA ?
[08:56] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- k thanx ill try that
[08:56] <jake1> does anyone have any suggestions on how to set this up
[08:56] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, yes
[08:56] <Don_jr> warbo I'm an idot...after configureing it and hitting okay, there's an 'activate' button on the settings window it's self...it's active, now is there a connection? we'll see
[08:56] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  di u know where  thats at in the kerne l ?
 ok...
[08:56] <Hoxzer> is Xserver-xorg-core still buggy?
[08:57] <stian> Can I run vino from the console?
[08:57] <MrSteve> hozer i believe it is
[08:57] <MrSteve> the fresh installs are still messed up too
[08:57] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, or no i'm using libata i believe, and it has no problems with my sata drive that i can see
[08:57] <dannym> imping: hmm, "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1381554" says it "should" work
[08:57] <Don_jr> I"M ONLINE WITH UBUNTU ON MY LAPTOP FINALLY!!!!  Sorry for caps, been workin on this for 3 days now
 i would like to make something like nubuntu
[08:57] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 im taking about your new kerenl ?
[08:57] <AstralJava> Congrats, Don_jr. :)
[08:57] <Warbo> darkowl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[08:57] <DShepherd> Pulshion: np
[08:58] <thrghpt> can you help me get up to dapper drake 6.06?
[08:58] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  did you add SATA ?
[08:58] <jake1> ok........ i'm on via ethernet, but how can i set up my wireless card
[08:58] <oblib> what do I need to set up in my smb.conf to make it so a client can write files?
[08:58] <W_McL> thrghpt: what's your problem?
[08:58] <dannym> imping: I fear you'll need to do try some stuff on the text console, if that works...
[08:58] <Don_jr> now I can have some fun.  How do I get repositories for DLing new programs? :-d
[08:58] <Warbo> darkowl: That guide tells you how to build your own Ubuntu CD, and how to change which packages get installed if you make it an install disc
[08:58] <blithe> sticky off
[08:58] <thrghpt> W_McL, i don't know, i'm new?
[08:58] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, it was already selected i believe, except the one that causes conflict with libata
 cool...tnx
[08:59] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 what do u mean selected?
[08:59] <W_McL> thrghpt ok... so you want to install dapper, or do you want to upgrade to dapper?
[08:59] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  where did you select it at ?
[08:59] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, it was already set as a module
[08:59] <`richiefrich`> u need it built in
[08:59] <jake1> ok so i got the driver installed how do i use it
[08:59] <jake1> ?
[08:59] <thrghpt> W_McL, i was trying to get my newbuntu system to play .mp3's but there's bla blah blah and one of the steps calls for "software..." a menu item which doesn't exist in this version
[08:59] <jake1> it's not showing up in my networking nor my iwconfig
[08:59] <Draconicus> We're on a computer that hasn't sync'd it's clock since the installation. Suddenly sudo is saying that the timestamp is "too far into the future" or some such. Syncing to an ntp server only seemed to make it worse. Any ideas?
[08:59] <jake1> i did the ndiswrapper -m
[09:00] <thrghpt> i want to upgrade to latest stuff...
[09:00] <thrghpt> i found something... upgraded some packages apparently... don't really know...
[09:01] <thrghpt> synaptic package manager"
[09:01] <thrghpt> here's update manager... sounds good
[09:01] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, i don't find it now, the only sata option i see is under device drivers, IDE/ATA
[09:01] <thrghpt> how can i get my version?
[09:01] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 it's under scsi
[09:01] <filbert_turtle> can anyone tell me if it's ok to delete mysql-bin files?
[09:01] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- hmm it doesnt install firefox, all it did is unarchive it in the folder on the desktop
[09:02] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me setting up my sound card??
[09:02] <DShepherd> Pulshion: that's what is supposed to do
[09:02] <thrghpt> ok let's try something else, what is a good, scriptable (w/ help files), irc-client for x
[09:02] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- isnt there like apt-get update or something for it?
[09:02] <DShepherd> Pulshion: at the moment.. no
[09:03] <thrghpt> i'm not gonna cry cuz i have xp on here also
[09:03] <dark00wl>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[09:03] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  u have no sound card ?
[09:03] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, its onboard sound
[09:03] <dark00wl>  /msg Warbo set unfiltered on
[09:03] <dark00wl>  /msg Warbo
[09:03] <`richiefrich`> what is it ?
[09:03] <Tonren> Hey guys, you know how you modprobe to activate a module?  What's the opposite, that removes it?
[09:03] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- this isnt installing firefox tho...
[09:03] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  what is it ?
[09:03] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, VIA ALC
[09:04] <thrghpt> zzz
[09:04] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  i dont see it that lspci
[09:04] <DShepherd> Pulshion: nope.. running it from the folder
[09:04] <DShepherd> Pulshion: if you feel crazy enough.. you can go grab the source and try make a deb out of it... how to do so.. I am not sure
[09:04] <thrghpt> holy smokes i'm running "breezy badger"!
[09:05] <Pulshion> DShepherd -- hmmm im not that crazy lol...i just installed it before using automatix
[09:05] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure sound blaster live 5.1 in dapper??
[09:05] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, its probably one of those VIA unknown devices
[09:05] <thrghpt> please see www.ubuntulinux.org for instructions!!!
[09:05] <RomanK> hi
[09:05] <lordhelmet> pam sucks.....argh
[09:05] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  sound it -> #
[09:05] <`richiefrich`> 0000:02:01.0 0403: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)
[09:05] <DShepherd> Pulshion: ok..
[09:06] <typhoid> what is the best way to go about installing blackbox + elightenment on ubuntu dapper?
[09:06] <W_McL> thrghpt, you need to install gstreamer0.8-plugins, it containd the most needed codecs
[09:06] <zparta> hey anyone got a link hoe to upgrade to edgy eft?
[09:06] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, all my SATA is built as modules, which doesn't seem to cause problems
[09:06] <phiber_optic> 'richiefrich are u having problems with the sound??
[09:06] <zparta> and no this is not on my primary desktop :P
[09:07] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic no
[09:07] <jackn> Tried to set up gmailfs. Get message that there's no mount.gmailfs, yet it's there. Why? What to do?
[09:07] <dcordero> hi
[09:07] <W_McL> thrghpt, do you already know how to install software?
[09:07] <_Hero> My question is about apache. Does anyone know how to I can redirect someone to the right page if they just enter the directory?
[09:07] <bbrazil> _Hero: mod_rewrite
[09:07] <thrghpt> w_mcl i don't know anything
[09:08] <thrghpt> um, not finding info about upgrade to 6.06 either
[09:08] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 where can i send this to
[09:08] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  u accept DCC?
[09:08] <Drako60> you can send directly
[09:08] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure sound blaster live 5.1 in dapper?? Because I dont even see in lspci :(
[09:08] <Draconicus> We're on a computer that hasn't sync'd it's clock since the installation. Suddenly sudo is saying that the timestamp is "too far into the future" or some such. Syncing to an ntp server only seemed to make it worse. Any ideas?
[09:09] <Draconicus> Is there some file related to sudo that tells it what the proper date is?
[09:09] <zparta> anyone know a link to a how-to on how tp upgrade to edgy eft?
[09:09] <W_McL> thrghpt ok... one way is to open the synaptic package manager (menu: system->administration->synaptic)
[09:09] <dcordero> phiber_optic i have this sound card and dapper configure auto in the install
[09:09] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  try that.. i hope i didnt miss anything.. :P
[09:09] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 do u need instrucions from here ?
[09:10] <W_McL> thrghpt, the other way, which i prefer, is doing it viy apt-get or aptitude in a terminal
[09:10] <jackn> Help with gmailfs?
[09:10] <sethk> Draconicus, it's not sudo, it's the command that you are running with sudo.  what command is that?
[09:10] <Draconicus> zparta: Do you REALLY want to do that this early in development? It likely won't have any software that dapper doesn't provide.
[09:10] <thrghpt> W_McL, ok, how to get from breezy badger to dapper drake?
[09:10] <Draconicus> sethk: ls? :P
[09:10] <Don_jr> I'm adding xchat now, I'll be back on my nix system in just a few.  Where and how do I get new repositories for getting other programs?
[09:10] <phiber_optic> dcordero, mine is not even detected in lspci
[09:10] <phiber_optic> :(
[09:10] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, i might, i'm still trying to figure out how exactly to use make-kpkg
[09:10] <phiber_optic> ive been working 4 days on it an notting
[09:10] <typhoid> what is it called, your login prompt?  what's the name of the file which controls this? i know its in ~ but i'm not sure where
[09:11] <Draconicus> sethk: You sure about it not being sudo? :)
[09:11] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  put that file in --> /usr/src/linux  <-- as -->  /usr/src/linux/.config
[09:11] <zparta> Draconicus: the drivers for ATI 340M doesnt seam to wirk in 6.06 as i have read on the forums it worked in earlier version and i thought it might work in edgy eft
[09:11] <dcordero> phiber_optic have you try add the emu10k1 modules into /etc/modules file?
[09:11] <Drako60> got that
[09:11] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 make oldconfig
[09:11] <Draconicus> zparta: Eheh... ATI and Linux... not the best combo in a lot of cases. >_>
[09:11] <jackn> typhoid, it's called PS1, it's a variable.
[09:11] <phiber_optic> yeah
[09:11] <thrghpt> W_McL, is there a way to make breezy play mp3s?
[09:11] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 make && make modules_install
[09:11] <phiber_optic> but since its not even detected I dont know what to do...
[09:11] <zparta> Draconicus: no shit :P its a laptop so not my choice :P
[09:11] <typhoid> jackn thanks a ton!
[09:11] <jackn> typhoid sure
[09:11] <_Hero> thanks, I'll try that
[09:11] <zparta> Draconicus: aint my laptop either my friend wants me to get him xgl and compiz :P
[09:12] <wouter__> hi all. I have a question about the root password. Who can help me with iT?
[09:12] <Draconicus> zparta: That logic doesn't work, really, though. Edgy is just a slightly different Dapper at this point. You won't see much improvement, I'd imagine.
[09:12] <Tonren> Hey cafuego, are you around?
[09:12] <zparta> Draconicus: crap any tip on how i might get it to work? :)
[09:12] <torpedo|dog> wouter__: in Ubuntu, the root account is locked by default; you can't eve nlog in on it.
[09:12] <Draconicus> zparta: Not really. Pity it's not one of those really new laptops with the interchangeable video card that some have.
[09:12] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 cp -v arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/new-kernel
[09:13] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <zparta> Draconicus: well il put a hatchet through it soon :P
[09:13] <zparta> Draconicus: get a nice core 2 duo with some kick-ass gfx
[09:13] <W_McL> thrghpt, no. you need to install the codecs. it's
[09:13] <wouter__> torpedo|dog: I know, I would like to know how i can make ubuntu always ask for the root password in stead of the user password
[09:13] <downtownsquirrel> maybe this is the wrong channel. but I'll ask instead! I got a server here: no devices, so ONLY the maindboard needs power. I'ts an 1He Server. Does anybody knows where i can get a very small passively cooled powersupply with lets say 100Watt and AT(X) Connector?
[09:13] <Draconicus> zparta: Tasty.
[09:13] <Otacon22> |wiki
[09:13] <zparta> Draconicus: or maybe even a MacBook :D
[09:13] <Otacon22> !wiki
[09:13] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:13] <Draconicus> zparta: Equally tasty. :)
[09:14] <torpedo|dog> wouter__: I'm not sure about it; the wiki might have some tips: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:14] <W_McL> thrghpt, simply open a terminal and type  'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins'
[09:14] <crparr> Hi! Who can help? I've got a root server running Ubuntu 5.04. I need to install postfix, but can't make it happen.Whenever I try to remove, start, stop it etc, I get this error: postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory It is even as a bug... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/42947
[09:14] <thrghpt> sudo!?
[09:14] <crparr> but how can I fix it?
[09:14] <wouter__> torpedo|dog: k thnx, i'll search there :D
[09:15] <zparta> Draconicus: indeed :) better battery time than other laptops :) hate the battery time on my friends lap only 1 hour on the  or atleast the PPClaps have good battery time :)
[09:15] <crparr> I'm logged in as root
[09:15] <Warbo> wouter__: If you enable the root account then you can log into it with su, so then removing users from the admin group would disable using sudo (which uses user password)
[09:15] <thrghpt> password?
[09:15] <phiber_optic> can somebody PLEASE help me configure my sound
[09:15] <Warbo> !root > thrghpt
[09:15] <W_McL> thrghpt, yes. sudo. you only can install things if you got superuser permissions
[09:16] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic is it in lspci
[09:16] <thrghpt> ...no installation candidate
[09:16] <phiber_optic> richiefrich nopp
[09:16] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic if  not  then u need to edit the kernel
[09:16] <thrghpt> i see phiber_optic :)
[09:16] <`richiefrich`> !kernel
[09:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:16] <wouter__> Warbo: k
[09:16] <tuotuo> hello
[09:16] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:17] <tuotuo> how to play rmvb files in ubuntu?
[09:17] <phiber_optic> its weird cauz in breeze it used to work perfectly
[09:17] <stian> !HowToEnableRemoteDesktopOnTheLiveCDFromTheCommandLine
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HowToEnableRemoteDesktopOnTheLiveCDFromTheCommandLine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  i cant even tell you what to add ..
[09:17] <stian> damn
[09:17] <thrghpt> yeah i know what sudo is
[09:18] <W_McL> thrghpt, no installation candidate? then you probaly need to edid your apt sources
[09:18] <kilps> hi all, can anyone help me with my problem as described in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243734 ?
[09:18] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic looks like dapper br0rked it for u
[09:18] <wouter__> Warbo: The link torpedo|dog send me is exactly what i was looking for. Thnx for the reply though :D
[09:18] <tuotuo> hello anyone can help me?
[09:18] <don_jronUbuntuNo> Yeah buddy!
[09:18] <phiber_optic> richiefrich I know... but its weird even if im putting in the bios not to load the onboard
[09:18] <Rookie-> kilps - tell your problem and your question, if anyone can answer, they will
[09:18] <tuotuo> how to play rmvb files in ubuntu plz?
[09:19] <phiber_optic> when I do lspci it shows me only the onboard
[09:19] <don_jronUbuntuNo> how do I add a repository to my add/remove list of programs?
[09:19] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic like i said it's the kernel
[09:19] <robertj> did webmin change names, relicence, start really sucking, etc?
[09:19] <thrghpt> my one other project which has occured to me before i give up is that of updating firefox... hope it's easy
[09:19] <robertj> apt-cache search didn't turn them up even with universe on
[09:19] <eyequeue> !repos > don_jronUbuntuNo
[09:19] <longwave> !repository
[09:19] <Warbo> !info quake2
[09:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:19] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[09:19] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic do u know what module u were using
[09:19] <W_McL> thrghpt the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <don_jronUbuntuNo> thanx alot
[09:20] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  emu10k1 ?
[09:20] <Siphroma> Is there a linux distro made specifically for laptops
[09:20] <tuotuo> which program can play rmvb files in ubuntu plz?
[09:20] <`richiefrich`> Siphroma not that im know
[09:20] <robertj> Siphroma: Ubuntu works swell on laptops
[09:20] <phiber_optic> it doesnt detect it
[09:20] <kilps> ok - basically after installing some updates last night i restarted (actually because firefox wouldn't start up properly, not sure if it is related) and now when I try and login with the correct details the screen flashes some sort of command line at me (looks a bit like the boot process, the last entry is * Running local boot scripts (etc/.rc.local)) and then jumps straight back to the login screen without logging me in :(
[09:20] <tuotuo> yes i'm using ubuntu on my laptop
[09:21] <robertj> a long time ago in a galaxy far away there was a special version of Ubuntu for HP laptops, but all those improvements are now in the default install
[09:21] <thrghpt> only non-comment line says "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release.......
[09:21] <Linuturk_code> what ever happened to that Tablet PC specific distro?
[09:21] <Rookie-> Siphroma - ubuntu is prob. one of the better , suse and feudora are others ... mandrake is a good one too
[09:21] <`richiefrich`> Siphroma  u can search on http://distrowatch.com
[09:21] <NemesisUK> tuotuo, you'll need realmedia codecs and then mplayer should pley them
[09:21] <Siphroma> tuotuo: Does it run down your battery quit?
[09:21] <`richiefrich`> Siphroma  archlinx.,. by the way what kinda lappy
[09:21] <reddux01> I'm having strange timeouts with all network services in ubuntu dapper drake 6.06 LTS..
[09:21] <tuotuo> ok i'll try
[09:21] <tuotuo> thx
[09:21] <jellegan1> hey room.
[09:21] <thrghpt> w_mcl what source should i add
[09:21] <reddux01> does anyone else have problems like this?
[09:21] <phiber_optic> richiefrircih it doesnt even run a module since it doesnt detec it
[09:21] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 whats going on.. where are u at?
[09:22] <Siphroma> Its a Compaq v3000z
[09:22] <Rookie-> Siphroma - but if you aasking me ... try slackware
[09:22] <jellegan1> can anyone help me configure my wpa-supplicant?  I#m SO close!!!
[09:22] <wouter__> torpedo|dog: ok, the needed pass is now always the root pass. Thnx again for the help.
[09:22] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic what module did u use;.. do u know
[09:22] <don_jronUbuntuNo> synaptic is how I'll access the repositories?
[09:22] <W_McL> thrghpt the codecs for the gstreamer plugins are in the universe repository
[09:22] <jellegan1> I#ve already been in the kubuntu room, and the madwifi room.  No luck.
[09:22] <torpedo|dog> wouter__: you're welcome :)
[09:22] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic u can use the onbaord one
[09:22] <Ghagge> anyone that can help with updating to newer kernel on dapper?
[09:22] <thrghpt> W_McL, so i hear...
[09:23] <`richiefrich`> Ghagge do u mean hand configuring
[09:23] <`richiefrich`> !kernel
[09:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:23] <phiber_optic> richiefrich I can use the onboard... when i set it up but it only gives me a 2 channel sound and I have 5.1 speaker... if I could be able to configure the onboard i wouldnt care about the sound blaster.
[09:23] <thrghpt> i read that on RestrictedFormats page
[09:23] <bderrly> Ghagge, sudo apt-get install linux-image-[686|k7] 
[09:23] <Ghagge> thanks bderrly
[09:23] <kilps> has no one got an idea as to why when i login the login screen is just displayed over/
[09:23] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic what module did u use;.. do u know
[09:24] <phiber_optic> for the onboard?
[09:24] <philipsmith> Hi. I wanto to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper. When I use the upgrade manager, it complains about not being able to fetch amarok141. What should I do?
[09:24] <phiber_optic> hda-intel i guess richie
[09:24] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic no
[09:24] <phiber_optic> do u want me to restart and enable it to check??
[09:24] <W_McL> thrghpt, there usually are out commented lines with those repositories in nthe default sources.list. (out commented = # at the beginning of the line)
[09:24] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic then sound blaster... what module WAS it using?
[09:24] <W_McL> thrghpt, look for universe, and remove the # in front.
[09:25] <phiber_optic> the sound blaster is not using any module caus it is not detected at all... not even lspci detects it
[09:25] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  emu10k1 ?
[09:25] <thrghpt> oh okay... good
[09:25] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic then sound blaster... what module WAS it using?
[09:25] <W_McL> thrghpt save the file (you have to edit it with sudo prermissions
[09:25] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic u SAID it worked
[09:25] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic then sound blaster... what module WAS it using?
[09:25] <phiber_optic> richie i tried loading emu10k1 but it didnt work
[09:25] <W_McL> thrghpt, after that run sudo apt-get update
[09:25] <`richiefrich`> omg
[09:25] <Rookie-> Switch User and DO - sudo
[09:25] <eg3> hi, is someone using the macbook with ubuntu?
[09:25] <Tinned_Tuna> heya
[09:25] <phiber_optic> the onboard is the one that worked
[09:25] <eg3> and parallels
[09:26] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic ok lets try it this way
[09:26] <mythtv> hello
[09:26] <wolfmanz> in order to have xbindkey work on boot up do i have to have that load up in the session startup thing?
[09:26] <Tinned_Tuna> how can I find out if this card ( http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?sap-x16xtu&P=1 ) is compatible with ubuntu + XGL/Compiz?
[09:26] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  when the cound blaster was working.. U with me ?
[09:26] <emoboy> hey im having trouble booting into the install cd...i am using a nvidia FX5200, and wether i choose the normal install, safe grafics install, or even if i select a resolution (i tired 800 x 600 16bit) it doesnt load x....sometimes it locks up with a white line at the top left, sometimes it gives me the "cannot start x blah blah" message
[09:26] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic what modules was it using, WHEN it was working on breezy
[09:26] <phiber_optic> sound blaster used to work in my old mobo, now I upgrade mobo and processor, it was using emu10k1
[09:27] <thrghpt> permission denied to writeout changes to file
[09:27] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  it's like pulling teeth.. thats all i wanted the module name :P
[09:27] <phiber_optic> richiefrich sorry lol
[09:27] <Rookie-> thrghpt - forgot sudo ?
[09:27] <Draconicus> I've asked this question a dozen times and nobody has been able to answer. Who in here thinks he or she is a total Ubuntu expert that can face any problem? :P
[09:27] <thrghpt> why should i sudo my own system?
[09:27] <reddux01> emoboy: cry at it long enough and it fix its self
[09:27] <thrghpt> am i not root?
[09:27] <W_McL> thrghpt, looks like you didn't edit it with superuser permissions
[09:27] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic i guess u didnt understand
[09:27] <Rookie-> you need root
[09:27] <eyequeue> !anyone
[09:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:27] <thrghpt> how do i get root?
[09:28] <emoboy> reddux01: funny :/
[09:28] <Rookie-> sudo
[09:28] <thrghpt> i am supposed to be root!?
[09:28] <thrghpt> i just installed this shit
[09:28] <Draconicus> thrghpt: I'll tell you in a PM, if you don't mind.
[09:28] <thrghpt> ok
[09:28] <phiber_optic> richie probable
[09:28] <Rookie-> nah, not in ubuntu
[09:28] <eyequeue> thrghpt, of course you're not root, that is dangerous
[09:28] <phiber_optic> probably*
[09:28] <reddux01> emoboy: just joking..
[09:28] <eyequeue> !root > thrghpt
[09:28] <W_McL> thrghpt, call the editor from a commandline with sudo
[09:28] <emoboy> haha i know....any ideas?
[09:28] <Rookie-> ubuntu is not like any other linux system ... ubuntu is .... "userfriendly"
[09:29] <wolfmanz> in order to have xbindkey work on boot up do i have to have that load up in the session startup thing?
[09:29] <Rookie-> unix on the other hand ... unix chooses its friends ...
[09:29] <reddux01> emoboy: are you having trouble even booting or are you having trouble starting X
[09:29] <jellegan1> oh, this is going well.
[09:29] <emoboy> well im trying to boot from the install cd....it wont let me get Live to install
[09:29] <mansfeld> hi eveyone
[09:29] <mythtv> can filesystem block sizes lose a lot o hard disk space?
[09:29] <emoboy> sometimes it drops me to the "cant start x" screen
[09:29] <mansfeld> *everyone
[09:29] <mansfeld> nice start -.-
[09:30] <emoboy> if i try safe grafics, i dont even get that far
[09:30] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, sorry was scrolled up, whats -w in nano?
[09:30] <mcphail> mythtv: apparently, yes
[09:30] <phiber_optic> 'richie so any suggestions??
[09:30] <mythtv> mcphail: how can I be sure?
[09:30] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  ok now try to   zgrep -i emu10k1  /boot/  init<- file
[09:30] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 no wrap
[09:31] <mythtv> mcphail: df says I am using 100GB, but I only have 20GB of files
[09:31] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic idk what  what that file is called for u
[09:31] <Dial_tone> try du -s
[09:31] <mcphail> mythtv: du may give more info
[09:31] <phiber_optic> what u mean??
[09:31] <Rookie-> !mythtv
[09:31] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:31] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, what do i need to add to menu.lst?
[09:31] <reddux01> I dunno about live cd
[09:32] <reddux01> I'd just download the desktop version and try that
[09:32] <phiber_optic> richie what fiel??
[09:32] <don_jronUbuntuNo> Okay, I want to thank everyone thats helped me through the past 3 days I appriciate it!
[09:32] <phiber_optic> file*
[09:32] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  the initd file u have..  in /boot  idk the name
[09:32] <mansfeld> I've got a networking problem here... I'd like to bridge two networks (a LAN to a WLAN) through this computer... any tips? I can't even get the two connections to work at the same time
[09:32] <kilps> sorry to bug, i just sorta need to figure this one out... has no one got an idea as to why the logon screen is continually displayed whenever i try and login, it just reloads itself ... should i do a reinstall?
[09:32] <reddux01> emoboy: I'd try the real desktop version
[09:32] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 the new kernel
[09:32] <Draconicus> 'kay, I was asking nicely, waiting patiently. Now it's time to push buttons.
[09:32] <phiber_optic> richie initrd.img? that one?
[09:32] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic yes
[09:32] <Rookie-> mansfeld - look on the gateway - submask - range - fwd
[09:33] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  ok now try to   zgrep -i emu10k1  /boot/initrd.img
[09:33] <reddux01> emoboy: I really can't help you as such as I really run ubuntu as a server and I've never even seen the gui
[09:33] <reddux01> emoboy: when I do check it out though I may try XGL/Compwhiz
[09:33] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, do i need to do anything else to grub besides edit the menu.lst?
[09:33] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 no
[09:33] <W_McL> thrghpt, does it work now?
[09:34] <mansfeld> Rookie- I set the gateway to forward or autodetect the DHCP server (supposedly the WLAN AP), but I need this computer to bridge eth0 and ra0, don't I?
[09:34] <thrghpt> yes it does, thanks you
[09:34] <phiber_optic> Binary file (standard input) matches
[09:34] <graft> yo, why no mt-daapd in the repos any more?
[09:34] <W_McL> thrghpt, no problem
[09:34] <thrghpt> installing 26 packages...
[09:34] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic the mount it
[09:34] <eg3> noone using a macbook here with parallels and ubuntu?
[09:34] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 did u edit my config at all
[09:35] <phiber_optic> what do u mean mount it??
[09:35] <reddux01> does anyone in here run Ubuntu Server 6.06 LTS is so can you msg me
[09:35] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 i forgot to tell u.. i dont have reiserfs in that config
[09:35] <reddux01> if so
[09:35] <Rookie-> reddux01 - ask your question ... better that way
[09:35] <W_McL> thrghpt, after than you probably also need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[09:35] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, i noticed
[09:35] <bwlang> just saw the ubuntu new item on opera... i'm running dapper and i don't see it as installable...  do i need to add some special repo?
[09:35] <Draconicus> Explain to me this: How does Ubuntu have superior security when the user password is all that is needed for access to everything in the entire system, completely defeating the purpose of root? You can even change the root password to your liking through sudo! If a running process is somehow compromised, the user password can easily be aquired. After this, anyone who has access to a user account can manipulate the whole system to th
[09:35] <Draconicus> eir liking.
[09:36] <Flannel> !tell bwlang about opera
[09:36] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 good..
[09:36] <mythtv> thanks. I'll check it out
[09:36] <Draconicus> Can somebody explain how this is more secure than a typical Linux system with completely separate root and user processes?
[09:36] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 i couldnt add it :P  my kernel doesnt support it
[09:36] <reddux01> Rookie: I'm having time outs when trying to access apache2 webserver, ssh and other hosted services..I'm wondering if you know of any problems that might be the cause of this?
[09:36] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Draconicus
[09:36] <phiber_optic> !rootsudo
[09:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:36] <thrghpt> !rootsudo
[09:37] <eyequeue> Draconicus, "a" user account?  no.   one in particular, perhaps
[09:37] <Draconicus> Yes. That explanation only further proves my point. I've looked into it.
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Draconicus: because, you can limit the users to not have access to root. Not all users are allowed access. There are separate root processes, and there is a root user. Just that because Ubuntu is designed for the desktop and for people new to linux, it makes more sense to have it this way, for user convienience. Also, its not that easy to stuff up your system because you don't have rights to do it.
[09:37] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  mount -t iso9660 -o loop /boot/initrd.img /mnt/blah
[09:37] <juliano> where's located the file that tells where log files will be written?
[09:37] <Draconicus> eyequeue: Yes. The majority of Ubuntu users will only have this one user account.
[09:37] <eyequeue> Draconicus, then you seem to read it differently than i
[09:37] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  then
[09:37] <phiber_optic> richie but initrd is a folder
[09:38] <Draconicus> fyrestrtr: It's no better than Windows giving the default user an Admin account but all the conveniences of a user account.
[09:38] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic u said it was a file
[09:38] <Rookie-> reddux01 - you got timeout from localhost too ? is it up and running ?
[09:38] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, and make just complained about my kernel patch
[09:38] <eyequeue> Draconicus, you're welcome to use windows if you prefer it to ubuntu
[09:38] <graft> Draconicus: it's definitely better than that - the normal user doesn't have root privs, so any processes running as that user won't be able to do root-level stuff
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Draconicus: yes it is, because unlike Windows, you need to enter a password before you can do anything. In Windows, you can login, go to the system32 folder, and delete dlls willy-nilly and nothing will stop you.
[09:38] <phiber_optic> well I have initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[09:38] <reddux01> no timeout from localhost
[09:38] <thrghpt> downloading 188 files...
[09:38] <phiber_optic> vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386
[09:38] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 how did u apply it?
[09:38] <phiber_optic> in my bood
[09:38] <Draconicus> eyequeue: Actually, I like Ubuntu and I use it because of its ease. I use Gentoo as my primary system, however.
[09:38] <phiber_optic> boot*
[09:39] <Rookie-> reddux01 - so from where du you get timeout then ?
[09:39] <kyja> I switched my router to 54g only to see if it would force my bcm406 to rate 54G. it still reports 11M but well logic tells me I am truely at rate 54M
[09:39] <reddux01> Rookie: from any other host
[09:39] <Draconicus> Anyway, I'll stop arguing before I start looking like a troll/.
[09:39] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  /boot/initrd.img <- u said u had that
[09:39] <graft> Draconicus: you're also free to cripple sudo and stick to using su, etc.
[09:39] <eyequeue> Draconicus, but that has that vile root account, iirc
[09:39] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, the patch is a whole two lines, i just added them in
[09:39] <Flannel> Draconicus: sudo is no less secure than giving everyone with root access the root password, and having to type that in all the time
[09:39] <phiber_optic> richiefrich i didnt wnat to tipye all the numbers
[09:39] <Draconicus> eyequeue: "vile"?
[09:39] <kyja> so iwconfig eth1 does not always corectly report the true rate you are running at.
[09:39] <eyequeue> Draconicus, safety-wise
[09:40] <Draconicus> Ah.
[09:40] <Rookie-> reddux01 - ok, defautl on timeout is 300 so it must be something else ... you got the ports open ?
[09:40] <thrghpt> ack sunlight!
[09:40] <graft> kyja: no it's an estimate
[09:40] <reddux01> yeah
[09:40] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386  <-- that is ALOT different then --> initrd.img
[09:40] <graft> kyja: there's really no such thing as a "true rate" anyway, they're always averages over some time
[09:40] <lupine_85> sudo is goodfor new users
[09:40] <Rookie-> reddux01 - you sure? you know you need a fw ...
[09:40] <bwlang> flannel: thanks - didn't see that commerical checkbox...
[09:40] <lupine_85> and forgetfulpeople
[09:40] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 so theres no .diff  ot no .patch
[09:40] <phiber_optic> i have those too files
[09:40] <reddux01> Rookie: yeah like right now I got ssh open and it hangs..
[09:40] <skold> hi can someone say me why there is a process on my system gnome-screesaver even when i dont have the screesaver activated and how to turn it off?
[09:40] <lupine_85> ...like PlusNet tech admins ;)
[09:40] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic then mount the .img
[09:41] <eyequeue> skold, man kill
[09:41] <reddux01> Rookie: I had iptables but I don't need it cause I have another industrial stregnth firewall
[09:41] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=8646&action=view <--- thats the patch
[09:41] <bwlang> skold: that's normal... it's just waiting for you to need it ... uses very little resource.
[09:41] <Rookie-> strange indeed, well - in that case is all i can say is to check the logfiles ... syslog and ssh log
[09:41] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  u just edited the code ?
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> skold: the process is there to monitor for inactivity and launch the screen saver, iirc.
[09:41] <reddux01> yeah
[09:41] <skold> oh ok thx
[09:42] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, and make complains error: PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237A undeclared here (not in a function)
[09:42] <kyja> graft: right, well I thought I would share this info. broadcom users fear not if iwconfig always says 11M as a rate. because it will go faster.
[09:42] <phiber_optic> mount: mount point /mnt/blah does not exist
[09:42] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 thats a  .difff
[09:42] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  idk what u have there --> /mnt/blah   <-- so edit it
[09:42] <graft> so does anyone know what happened to the mtdaap server that used to be in the repository?
[09:43] <`richiefrich`> Drako60  i need to apply that patch
[09:43] <phiber_optic> richiefrich i dont really know what u are trying to telmm me sorry :(
[09:43] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic that dir u dont hahve
[09:43] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:43] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic so change it or make it
[09:44] <reddux01> Rookie: there is somekind of cron job having to do with php in the syslog
[09:44] <rgould> What package do I need to install to get Applications->System Tools->New Login?
[09:44] <mihkel> Hi, i have a problem with music. ubuntu music player wont play music
[09:44] <graft> kyja: ah... actually, probably not - you might get bursts that are faster than that but on average it'll be slower because of overhead, dropped packets, etc.
[09:44] <`richiefrich`> phiber_optic  mkdir /mnt/blah
[09:44] <mihkel> Anyone?
[09:44] <eyequeue> mihkel, no oggs?
[09:44] <graft> mihkel: what music player?
[09:44] <`richiefrich`> Drako60   cd /usr/src/linux && patch -p1 < via.patch
[09:44] <mihkel> mp3 only
[09:44] <phiber_optic> i pasted u in a private what it said
[09:45] <mihkel> aa, rythboxmusicplayer
[09:45] <eyequeue> !mp3 >mihkel
[09:45] <eyequeue> !mp3 > mihkel
[09:45] <mihkel> yes
[09:45] <thrghpt> mihkel sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment the lines that end with universe and then run updates
[09:45] <kyja> graft: oh. well I dont know. I switched my router from auto to only g connections. and I am connected but iwconfig reports 11. so I could only think that I am at 54M and not 11M that my laptop reprots.
[09:46] <bwlang> I can't remember what  i need to put in my kernel boot params to tell it to resume from a swapfile... something like resume2=?  can anybody point me in the right direction?
[09:46] <dabomb422> I was just wondering if it was remotely possible to use an app (ie a music program) as a panel?
[09:46] <graft> kyja: ah... that might be a bug in iwconfig, actually
[09:46] <Draconicus> We're on a computer that hasn't sync'd it's clock since the installation. Suddenly sudo is saying that the timestamp is "too far into the future" or some such. Syncing to an ntp server only seemed to make it worse. Any ideas?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> kyja: the distance between you and the router could make a difference also.
[09:47] <W_McL> !mp3 > W_McL
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Draconicus: maybe your battery is going on a fritz?
[09:47] <g333k_work> How do I see the list of users of my Pc?
[09:47] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, still fails
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> g333k_work: all users, or users currently on?
[09:47] <g333k_work> fyrestrtr, all users
[09:48] <thrghpt> oops gotta run
[09:48] <graft> Draconicus: timestamp on which?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> g333k_work: cat /etc/passwd
[09:48] <kyja> fyrestrtr: I am 15 feet infront of it. full signal. I think I would agree with graft and say iwconfig might have a bug.
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> hmm probably :)
[09:48] <Draconicus> graft: I don't know. That's all it says.
[09:49] <kyja> fyrestrtr: however you have a good argument if I where outside by the pool
[09:49] <graft> Draconicus: um, a little more context?
[09:49] <dabomb422> is it possible to use a program as a panel?
[09:49] <tuxtux> reboot
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> dabomb422: no, unless its written as a panel, or you stick it in some wrapper.
[09:49] <mihkel> What i have to do to listen music. RYTHMBOXSMUSICPLAYER wont play
[09:49] <eyequeue> !mp3 > mihkel
[09:50] <wolfmanz> dabomb422: what do you mean?
[09:50] <rgould> Hmm. I'm noticing that my Systems Tools menu is missing a lot of items. Is there some way I can kick it?
[09:50] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 still
[09:50] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 darn
[09:50] <dabomb422> fyrestrtr: how hard would it be to do that?
[09:50] <Drako60> `richiefrich`, and make complains error: PCI_DEVICE_ID_VIA_8237A undeclared here (not in a function)  <-- thats the error
[09:50] <wouter__> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh. Who had the idea to patch tjhe CUPS web interface. I spend 2 hours searching for the problem why I couldnt add any printers through the web interface. And it turns out that ubuntu patched it. WHO IS THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT STUPID IDEA??? I love cups webinterface. What is the reason for the choise?
[09:50] <Draconicus> graft: I'll quote it word for word: "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 25 17:54:47 2006"
[09:50] <graft> amarok just got DAAP support - now there is no reason to use anything else
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> dabomb422: depends on how good you are at python programming and gnome.
[09:50] <mihkel> I dont understand
[09:50] <mihkel> what i have to to
[09:50] <kyja> woohooo
[09:50] <mihkel> i am noob
[09:50] <pettern> how do i change the encoding for the terminal?
[09:51] <Qball> graft: memory usage, no server-clean model
[09:51] <mihkel> still
[09:51] <graft> Draconicus: err, wait two hours maybe?
[09:51] <eyequeue> mihkel, follow the instructoins at the url the bot gave yu
[09:51] <Qball> clean/client
[09:51] <dabomb422> fyrestrtr: meh, not at all, lol.  I was just wondering, since it'd make it easier.  Do you know of any programs/scripts already out there that'd work?
[09:51] <kallei> how do i play a mounted .iso DVD in VLC ?
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> dabomb422: that do what?
[09:52] <graft> Qball: enh, memory footprints don't bother me... also they just put in something that better resembles a server/client model (although I haven't played with it much yet)
[09:52] <Draconicus> graft: I'm in EST. :P
[09:52] <L1> What would cause "lsusb" to hang?
[09:52] <_gpg_> hi
[09:52] <CoasterMatt> Hello neighbors
[09:52] <Draconicus> graft: The clock was way of when it first started doing this. Then I did an ntp sync. The problem persists.
[09:52] <santa99> good evening
[09:52] <_gpg_> can anyone remind me how to install kernel healers please ?
[09:52] <graft> Draconicus: yeah, so 17:54 = +2 hours from now, at which point the timestamp should become valid
[09:52] <santa99> i have problems with the integrated ssh function from nautilus
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> _gpg_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:52] <`richiefrich`> Drako60 pm please
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[09:53] <graft> Draconicus: what are you sudo'ing anyway?
[09:53] <dabomb422> fyrestrtr: creates a panel that is/controls a music player, or something like that
[09:53] <Draconicus> graft: Just testing it with an 'ls' at this point. Nothing more.
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> amarok minimizes to the notifcation area.
[09:53] <santa99> the problem is I can't set permissions with it but it is possible with winscp under windows. Nautilus says I'm not the owner so I'm not allowed to set permissions
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> and you can use gkrellm hooks to control xmms
[09:53] <graft> Draconicus: ah... did you cheat and make a root password?
[09:53] <Draconicus> graft: ...Yes. >_>
[09:53] <eyequeue> Draconicus, sudo date whatever (man date)  i think ntp will only adjust a certain limit .... then ntpdate again
[09:54] <graft> Draconicus: so su and look around for timestamps in the future
[09:54] <mihkel> You wanna say in ubuntu cant play mp3??
[09:54] <Draconicus> graft: I don't know what to look for or where...
[09:54] <graft> Draconicus: for example on /etc/sudoers or /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow
[09:54] <eyequeue> mihkel, not by default, it;s not an open format
[09:54] <Draconicus> Ah. You answered a question I was about to ask. :P
[09:54] <Draconicus> Thanks, graft.
[09:54] <santa99> ideas what i can do against this ?
[09:54] <mihkel> OMG
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <graft> Draconicus: if it's wrrong just do 'touch <file>' as root, that should fix it
[09:55] <eyequeue> mihkel, closed is evil, why encouage it?
[09:55] <mihkel> the world knowest and most used format in music
[09:55] <crdw> Hello! My machine is an i686 and the linux headers installed is 386. What is the difference between 386 and 686? Should i install 686 linux headers?
[09:55] <Draconicus> graft: I know there's a form of ls that shows the timestamp... What is it, again?
[09:55] <graft> Draconicus: ls -al
[09:55] <eyequeue> mihkel, so you're saying evryone should use microsoft?  same logic would apply there
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> crdw: headers depend on what kernel you are using. If you are using the 386 kernel, you should install 386 headers.
[09:56] <L1> What would cause "lsusb" to hang?  (none responsive and cntl-c is ineffective)
[09:56] <Rookie-> install the right kernel for your cpu ... you know what cpu you have ... ?
[09:56] <tom_> hi everyone- i'm new to all of this, and i have a question, hopefully someone can help me. i'm trying to install easyubuntu, and when i type "sudo python easyubuntu.in", it gives me "You cannot run EasyUbuntu as root. Please run it as a user." Anyone able to help a newb?
[09:56] <mihkel> ok
[09:56] <eyequeue> mihkel, but the bot told you how to enable support for mp3 if you still want it
[09:57] <eyequeue> tom_, omit the sudo to be nonroot
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> tom_: what do you want to use easyubuntu for?
[09:57] <mihkel> i am really stupid and some human have to say me step by step what i have to do. XD
[09:57] <tom_> i'm trying to get dvd playback and mp3 support
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> tom_: just read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> tom_: easier than messing with easyubuntu
[09:57] <crdw> if my machine is an i686, should i install 686 kernel?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> crdw: yes
[09:58] <Draconicus> graft: Nothing. Any other files I can check?
[09:58] <graft> L1, does it hang after listing or before?
[09:58] <graft> Draconicus: all those have valid timestamps?
[09:58] <santa99> i would like to set permissions with nautilus on a folder on a webserver with nautilus how can i manage that ?
[09:58] <L1> no listing
[09:58] <crdw> ok! tank you!
[09:58] <tom_> ok, now how do i actually install a package?
[09:58] <mihkel> Ok, well. I take connection tomorrow, because i have to go sleep i have exsam tomorrow
[09:58] <mihkel> Bye, have a nice night
[09:58] <Draconicus> graft: Yes. They were all older than the current one, and I touched them all just in case. Nothing.
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> tom_: sudo apt-get install packagename
[09:59] <tom_> awesome, many thanks. oh, lastly, what's sudo stand for? the curious in me needs to know, heh
[09:59] <gnujack> hey
[09:59] <tsw> tom_: superuser do
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> sudo = switch user do
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> not superuser do
[09:59] <tsw> oh
[09:59] <phiber_optic> richie it didnt work
[09:59] <tom_> many thanks, i really appreciate it
[09:59] <imago_> My fstab is completly blank help me plz
[10:00] <eyequeue> sudo (8)             - execute a command as another user
[10:00] <santa99> nodbody an idea
[10:00] <tsw> hmm true
[10:00] <tsw> its great to learn new things everyday :)
[10:00] <CoasterMatt> has anybody here gotten Scorched 3D v40 working on Ubuntu?
[10:01] <Centaur5> What would make Dapper not mount flash drives automatically and how can it be fixed?
[10:01] <phiber_optic> how can I configure my sound card to be 5.1, ill use the onboard sound card if thats what i have to do
[10:01] <tom_> ok, i'm off back into playing around with this. many thanks again
[10:01] <door> Centaur5:  is your flash drive a USB drive?
[10:01] <Centaur5> door: yes
[10:01] <imago_> can anyone help me with my fstab problem
[10:01] <slackj> ri-ciao
[10:02] <patton> -es
[10:02] <gnujack> hey....anyone ever have problems booting into the live install? i cant seem to get into X
[10:02] <door> Centaur5:  do you have a line for it in your /etc/fstab file?
[10:02] <door> Centaur5:  if so, what is it?
[10:02] <Centaur5> door: I've never added anything, it used to mount them automatically.
[10:02] <three> gnujack: what is your graphics set up
[10:03] <door> Centaur5:  in dapper?
[10:03] <Centaur5> yes
[10:03] <crdw> is there any conflict by having 386 and 686 kernel installed? or should i remove 386 after install 686 kernel?
[10:03] <Centaur5> It mounts automatically in my other machine and also off the live cd if I boot from that.
[10:03] <gnujack> well, i have a PCI ATI radeon 9200 in there, and i just put in a PCI Nvidia fx5200
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> crdw: you can have as many kernels as you want installed, but only one kernel runs at one time.
[10:03] <gnujack> and i havent had any luck using either of them
[10:03] <Wiseguy> hey guys is there a wireless util that i can use to connect to my AP other than iwconfig?
[10:04] <mcphail> CoasterMatt: i think i have v40 installed
[10:04] <lordhelmet> wiseguy: i use knetworkmanager for all that stuff
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> Wiseguy: system > administration > networking
[10:04] <L1> graft, no display and no cntl-C response.
[10:04] <door> Centaur5:  try the command gnome-volume-manager
[10:04] <imago_> will some one help me with my fstab problem
[10:04] <three> gnujack: beats me, I thought it could be your card but obviously not, sry i cant help more
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> imago_: what is the problem?
[10:04] <Wiseguy> fyrestrtr: how do i find AP's with that though?
[10:05] <Wiseguy> oh nvm
[10:05] <Draconicus> graft: *poke*
[10:05] <imago_> fyrestrtr, my fstab is completly BLANK
[10:05] <Centaur5> door: That didn't bring anything up.
[10:05] <cypher_> anybody have any experience with the FreeCom DVB-T USB stick in Ubuntu
[10:05] <cypher_> ?
[10:05] <graft> Draconicus: sorry, boss on the phone :P
[10:05] <bluefox83> correct me if i'm wrong, but wont fstab repopulate when you reboot?
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> imago_: are you on the livecd?
[10:05] <imago_> NO
[10:05] <door> Centaur5:  now try unplugging and then plugging back in your device
[10:05] <lordhelmet> bluefox83: no
[10:05] <Draconicus> graft: Ah. That's fine. :P
[10:05] <imago_> fyrestrtr, no
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> imago_: are you on ubuntu dapper?
[10:06] <graft> Draconicus: um, all i can think of is /etc/groups
[10:06] <door> Centaur5: the program is a daemon, so it runs in the background
[10:06] <gnujack> any ideas where i can get help booting into the livecd o install ubuntu....im getting frutrated
[10:06] <imago_> 5.10
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> gnujack: try using the alternate cd.
[10:06] <gnujack> what is different with that
[10:06] <Centaur5> door: still nothing
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> gnujack: it works :)
[10:06] <Draconicus> graft: "No such file or directory" o.O
[10:07] <imago_> fyrestrtr, 5.10 bagder
[10:07] <gnujack> haha i mean like what is "alternate" about it
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> imago_: how are you checking that its blank?
[10:07] <santa99> nobody some ideas what i can do to manage setting permissions on my webserver ?
[10:07] <graft> Draconicus: err, /etc/group i mean
[10:07] <graft> Draconicus: also try just sudo -v
[10:07] <eyequeue> bluefox83, no, .etc/mtab
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> gnujack: non-graphical install process, can install server and minimal, etc.
[10:07] <Centaur5> door: Okay, it just worked in my 3rd usb port.
[10:07] <miked> newb question: where do you put the icon.png file when installing an application manually?  i have already created a desktop configuration file.
[10:07] <door> aha
[10:07] <sethk> santa99, see if webmin might help
[10:07] <door> Centaur5: aha
[10:07] <Centaur5> Thanks door, that's a really useful thing to know if I have that problem in the future.
[10:07] <don_jronUbuntuNo> I just downloaded and isntalled some things and they arn't in my applications menue.  How can I find them?
[10:07] <gnujack> hmm ok....this is irritating
[10:07] <imago_> fyrestrtr, sudo nano --nowrap /ect/fstab
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> miked: /usr/share/ is where I would put it.
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> imago_: its /etc/ not /ect/
[10:08] <door> Centaur5:  no problem. Maybe add it to a startup thing for GNOME? It's supposed to start automatically
[10:08] <L1> What is the best time to ask questions here?
[10:08] <Wiseguy> is network settings really slow for anyone else when trying to use a wireless connection?
[10:08] <Centaur5> door: Oh, would that be under services or should I just add that to startup programs?
[10:08] <sethk> L1, anytime I'm not here
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> L1: the time you have a problem :)
[10:08] <santa99> sethk, is setting permissions on a webserver with ssh not possible with nautilus ?
[10:08] <jujimufu> ok, so yesterday I downloaded GNOME to try it out, and along, it downloaded many other gnome-related packages.
[10:08] <bluefox83> L1, whenever you have a problem o.o
[10:08] <jujimufu> however, gnome's messed up my system, and I want to remove it, completely.
[10:08] <Draconicus> graft: Ha. Sorry. I should have caught that myself. :P
[10:09] <door> Centaur5:  I'm really sorry...I don't know--I haven't used GNOME in months. I *think* you can add it in sessions
[10:09] <L1> What would cause "lsusb" to hang?  (none responsive and cntl-c is ineffective)
[10:09] <Draconicus> graft: Still nothing, it seems. I'll try sudo -v
[10:09] <Centaur5> door: okay, well thanks again.
[10:09] <sethk> santa99, I don't know, I use cli, I don't use a gui tool to manage permissions.  Probably you can do it that way.
[10:09] <don_jronUbuntuNo> Any help?
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> L1: unsupported hardware on usb, bad chipset support, the alignment of the planets, etc. many things.
[10:09] <Draconicus> graft: sudo -v prints the same error.
[10:09] <don_jronUbuntuNo> how do I change my naem here? lol
[10:09] <bluefox83> jujimufu, in synaptic..select gnome from the list and click the "mark to be completely removed"
[10:09] <imago_> fyrestrtr, he heh heh oops  thx
[10:09] <santa99> sethk, do you know where the network folders are mounted ?
[10:09] <eyequeue> don_jronUbuntuNo, /nick
[10:09] <graft> Draconicus: also look in /var/run/sudo
[10:10] <cypher_> anybody have any experience with the FreeCom DVB-T USB stick in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <sethk> santa99, I don't know what you mean by network folders
[10:10] <Don_jr> eyequeue thanx
[10:10] <Spug> i just got a new PS/2 mouse and keyboard (wireless). i just plugged them in, and later rebooted, and they were both fine. after rebooting a seond time now, though, X can't load "kbd" and "mouse" modules and fails to load.
[10:10] <eyequeue> Don_jr, np
[10:10] <santa99> sethk, Places->Connect to Server
[10:10] <Don_jr> Anyone know how I can find where the programs I just downloaded and installed are at?  they arn't in the applications list
[10:10] <santa99> sethk, and there a ssh connection with a webserver
[10:10] <L1> fyrestrtr,  how do I resolve the problem.  USB appears to be stuck.
[10:10] <canute> Hi, I just edited my /etc/hosts file, but it doesn't seem to get update, do I need to restart?
[10:10] <eyequeue> Don_jr, killall gnome-panel
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Don_jr: dpgk -L nameofprogram
[10:10] <graft> L1: what USB devices are you using?
[10:11] <Don_jr> eyequeue killall? what will that do? lol
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> canute: no, what did you change in it?
[10:11] <L1> graft,  HP PSC printer (been working for months)
[10:11] <eyequeue> Don_jr, cause them to show up
[10:11] <canute> i added: 192.168.2.13              canutes.net
[10:11] <canute> for my domain which i host on my server in my local lan
[10:11] <graft> L1 you tried unplugging it i assume?
[10:12] <L1> graft,  trying to set up jpilot  for Palm m130
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> canute: when you type dig canutes.net -- what does it resolve to?
[10:12] <canute> my wan address
[10:12] <L1> graft, unpluged, power cycled, etc
[10:12] <graft> L1 does lsusb still hang if you try it while there are no devices plugged in?
[10:13] <Draconicus> graft: Look for improper timestamps? Everything in that directory is earlier than the current time.
[10:13] [cr3(n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3)]  help
[10:13] <graft> Draconicus: ...
[10:13] <graft> Draconicus: what is the current time anyway?
[10:13] <Spug> how can i get a list of installed programs (from apt) and pipe it to a file?
[10:14] <imago_> fyrestrtr, thx i just had to change my fstab to get my floppy working  i got it to work now. one question for you tho  how do i install a deb package
[10:14] <Draconicus> graft: 16:14. Why?
[10:14] <L1> graft, yes even if no usb devices plugged in
[10:14] <graft> Draconicus: just wondering if maybe your clock isn't wrong... hrm
[10:14] <eyequeue> date -u
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> imago_: first, find out if its in any repository and just use apt-get, if you have a .deb file for ubuntu, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb -- don't install non-ubuntu debs on ubuntu :)
[10:14] <Draconicus> graft: The clock is correct at the moment.
[10:14] <eyequeue> Fri Aug 25 20:14:51 UTC 2006
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> @now
[10:15] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: August 25 2006, 20:15:10
[10:15] <Draconicus> I sync'd with Debian's server because I couldn't think of anything, anyway.
[10:15] <miked> fyrestrtr: i put xaralx.png into /usr/share/xaralx, do i need to configure xaralx.desktop to point to the full path of that icon?
[10:15] <imago_> fyrestrtr, no i know that much but thx i just didn't know the command line for it
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> miked: yes.
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> imago_: you can also just double click it from the desktop :)
[10:16] <imago_> fyrestrtr, i could't because when i did the archive mananger didn't reconisze the file type
[10:17] <graft> Draconicus: um, kill your timestamp with sudo -K and try again
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> imago_: there is another program specifically for debs
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> I forgot its name, might only be in dapper though.
[10:17] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, gdebi?
[10:18] <eyequeue> !info gdebi breezy
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> yeah, that's the one.
[10:18] <ubotu> Package gdebi does not exist in breezy
[10:18] <eyequeue> bummer
[10:18] <Draconicus> graft: It's still giving the same error. Seems to be exclusive to this user, however.
[10:18] <eyequeue> !info gdebi
[10:18] <miked> fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:18] <ubotu> gdebi: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.4ubuntu13 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 684 kB
[10:18] <Don_jr> did killall gnome-panel and still nothing showing up in my applications list
[10:18] <graft> Draconicus: okay, just rm your timestamp file
[10:18] <graft> Draconicus: and then try again
[10:18] <Draconicus> graft: Where is it located?
[10:19] <graft> Draconicus: /var/run/sudo/<yourusername>
[10:19] <eyequeue> Don_jr, are the gnome apps?
[10:19] <imago_> thx ppl i will help some one when i can
[10:19] <robertj> does webmin not work right with dapper or is there some other reason it wasn't included?
[10:19] <eyequeue> Don_jr, are theY gnome apps?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> robertj: its not supported, that's why.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> !webmin
[10:19] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:19] <Draconicus> graft: Yeah.. um... That directory was empty when I did an ls in it earlier.
[10:20] <graft> Draconicus: wtf. um. really?
[10:20] <imago_> fyrestrtr, how do i enable the firewall
[10:20] <Draconicus> graft: Really.
[10:20] <eyequeue> Don_jr, applications > debian sometimes lists things that don't show up elsewhere
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[10:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:21] <graft> Draconicus: um, okay, cheat by setting your clock ahead two hours, then do sudo -k, then set your clock back
[10:21] <Cirvin_Fox> Ubuntu is not setting up my firewire card as it should, cna it be done manually?
[10:21] <n3o> hello
[10:21] <foo25> Can anyone help me set up Ubuntu with me wireless router?
[10:21] <Draconicus> graft: Actually, I just tested in console. Sudo works fine there. I think this was just some kind of bug.
[10:22] <n3o> thats the prob?
[10:22] <robertj> frying_fish: why is that htough?
[10:22] <robertj> err fyrestrtr: err why is that though?
[10:22] <Rajko> how can i install gtk+-2.0.0
[10:22] <graft> Draconicus: err where did it not work?
[10:22] <robertj> fyrestrtr: and is there a suggested replacement?
[10:22] <Draconicus> graft: Anywhere in the X session.
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> robertj: sorry, why is what? oh -- webmin? I don't know. I guess its incompatible with the debian layout?
[10:22] <phiber_optic> how can I configure my onboard sound card from 2 channel to 5 channel
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> robertj: my memory is lacking of late, there is a free control panel for debian/ubuntu -- you'll have to google it though, sorry :(
[10:23] <Draconicus> graft: Logging out and logging back in would have solved it.
[10:23] <graft> Draconicus: hrm... seems weird... i guess just restart X then
[10:23] <robertj> fyrestrtr: ISPConfig?
[10:23] <Draconicus> graft: Already logging back in after killing GDM to make sure. :P
[10:23] <maki> hey
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> robertj: don't recall, sorry.
[10:23] <robertj> np, thanks
[10:23] <Rajko> eh
[10:23] <Draconicus> graft: Um... whoa... still doesn't work in X.
[10:23] <Cirvin_Fox> can someone help me install my firewire card?
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> robertj: it was one of those things I tripped upon when browsing and went, 'hrmm ... that's interesting' -- and forgot to bookmark it :(
[10:24] <graft> Draconicus: wtf, works in console for same user but not in X?
[10:24] <maki> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg tried it?
[10:24] <Draconicus> graft: Hold on. This is crazy. It seems this is ONLY in the first tab of an Xfce terminal.
[10:24] <santa99> how can i set permissions for a folder in a ssh session with nautilus
[10:25] <Draconicus> graft: In any other tab, any other bash shell instance, it's perfectly fine.
[10:25] <graft> Draconicus: um does it log you into some other machine automatically or something?
[10:25] <eyequeue> santa99, i'd use chmod instead
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> santa99: try right click?
[10:25] <Draconicus> graft: What? No. o.O
[10:26] <santa99> fyrestrtr, properties->permissions , i know but the problem is that it says I'm not the owner of it
[10:26] <dark00wl> how to make that ubuntu doesnt boot in x ? when i boot it i dont want it to start me that gui login window
[10:26] <Draconicus> graft: I'm actually an experienced Ubuntu user. I've just never played with Xfce 4.4 on Ubuntu. Works fine on Gentoo. Perhaps Xubuntu should check its repositories for buggy packages.
[10:26] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:26] <santa99> fyrestrtr, but the funny thing is that i can change permissions with winscp under windows
[10:26] <graft> Draconicus: I don't see wtf it could be doing differently
[10:26] <eyequeue> dark00wl, sudo dpkg --purge gdm
[10:26] <santa99> eyequeue, where does network mounts get mounted ?
[10:26] <Cirvin_Fox> my firewire card woked fine last night, though today i booted up and its not being loaded
[10:26] <graft> Draconicus: i mean there's no environment variables that should screw it up...
[10:26] <Draconicus> graft: Neither do I, but it seems to be.
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> santa99: errm, scp != ssh
[10:26] <eyequeue> dark00wl, probably /mnt ??
 ?
[10:27] <gnujack> grrr....hey all i have a question
[10:27] <Draconicus> graft: If it's any consolation, this machine in particular has been known to have screwy sudo problems with varying causes.
[10:27] <cypher_> any reason with a USB DVB FreeCom stick that I get firmware being loaded and NO dev nodes being made ?
[10:27] <clarsen> anyone here with ubunut on sparc experience?
[10:27] <clarsen> *ubuntu
[10:27] <eyequeue> dark00wl, ls /mnt
[10:27] <santa99> fyrestrtr, right :) but is it possible to mount network folders with scp in nautilus ?
[10:27] <graft> Draconicus: reinstall the binary? i mean that's pretty damn weird
[10:27] <eclipse_> ok can someone please help me set up a D++ hub?
[10:27] <eclipse_> i dont know how and i have been trying.... :s
 why do you need that ?''
[10:28] <eyequeue> santa99, scp doesn't mount, it transfers
[10:28] <gnujack> if i install ubuntu with an ATI card, can i then add another nVidia card and install drivers to make it work?
[10:28] <eclipse_> university network
[10:28] <maki> eclipse try google
[10:28] <eyequeue> scp (1)              - secure copy (remote file copy program)
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> santa99: sure :) but not using scp, using ssh.
[10:28] <eclipse_> maki:  i did
 i dont have anything mounted
[10:28] <eyequeue> dark00wl, okay
[10:28] <maki> im a little noob in ubuntu problems
[10:28] <graft> gnujack: sure why not?
[10:28] <eclipse_> maki: found some good faqs and such...however i dont get how to install it....
[10:28] <maki> now i compile kernel
[10:28] <eclipse_> im such a n00b to ubuntu...
[10:29] <santa99> eyequeue, fyrestrtr, so what should i use scp or ssh or maybe both
 and how does /mnt have anything to do with booting in login window ?
[10:29] <gnujack> well, i couldnt boot into the installer with 2 card....i had to pull out one to get as far as i am now (installing)
[10:29] <eyequeue> dark00wl, you asked where they mounted, not about login
[10:29] <gnujack> so now im installing the base system with the ATI card, i will then install ATI drivers
[10:29] <Draconicus> graft: What's funny is that I didn't even think about it when my friend easily opened synaptic through gtksudo or whatever while I was trying to figure out the problem. He even exclaimed that it was incovnient... Flew right over my head. XD
[10:29] <eclipse_> anyone?
[10:30] <gnujack> and then the nvidia drivers, then put the card in, reboot with the nVidia connected
[10:30] <gnujack> then it should work, no?
 mounted ??? where did I sais anything about mounted ?
[10:30] <dark00wl> how to make that ubuntu doesnt boot in x ? when i boot it i dont want it to start me that gui login window
[10:30] <graft> gnujack: yeah, i don't get where the installer hangs in the first place
[10:30] <dark00wl> thats what i said
[10:30] <gnujack> you mean when i have both cards in?
[10:30] <eyequeue> dark00wl, not you, sorry <santa99> eyequeue, where does network mounts get mounted ?
[10:31] <eyequeue> dark00wl, sudo dpkg --purge gdm
[10:31] <natural20> can't upload via ftp, can't access email, can't load certain webpages...  wtf is wrong with my comp?
[10:31] <graft> Draconicus: do you get the same weird behavior if you fire up a new terminal session?
[10:31] <grout58> how do i remove chmod 777 from a dir?
[10:31] <graft> gnujack: yeah... why does it hang at all?
[10:31] <IndyBC> How do I change the PATH environment variable?
 can i get an explenation what does it do ?
[10:31] <Draconicus> graft: Yeah. And again, it only does it in the first tab of the terminal.
[10:31] <eyequeue> grout58, chmod it to something  else
[10:31] <W_McL> natural20, are you behind a router or firewall?
[10:31] <gnujack> well with both cards in, i cant get into graphical mode for some reason
[10:31] <Cirvin_Fox> why canti select a resolution past 1024x768, i know my card is capible of more
[10:31] <fuxord> hey
[10:31] <natural20> W_McL, not sure about firewall, i'm on DSL
[10:31] <maki> i go sleep
[10:31] <santa99> eyequeue, so is ssh only a connection ?
[10:32] <eclipse_> :(
[10:32] <graft> Draconicus: do env > shell1 and env > shell2 for a non-working and working tab and diff 'em
[10:32] <gnujack> it dumps me to the x rror
[10:32] <W_McL> natural20, on DSL with or without a router?
[10:32] <natural20> W_McL, no firewall on computer (unless ubuntu has one)
[10:32] <gnujack> error*
[10:32] <eyequeue> dark00wl, sudo (as user) dpkg (package manager) --purge (gets rid of) gdm (that thing you don't like)
[10:32] <sethk> Cirvin_Fox, probably it thinks your monitor isn't capable
[10:32] <fuxord> is it possible to instal ubuntu on a totally blank hd? iu have a space pc with nothing at all on it, no other os, how can i instal ubuntu on it
[10:32] <misieq_> how can i change screen resolution when using xgl?
[10:32] <eyequeue> dark00wl, as root rather
[10:32] <Cirvin_Fox> but i can assure you that it its
[10:32] <Draconicus> graft: Well, I've just reinstalled the terminal program. I'll tell you if it's different in a second.
 but what is gdm for ?
[10:32] <W_McL> natural20, many DSL-routers have builtin firewalls
[10:32] <Cirvin_Fox> how can i assert that to the software?
[10:32] <fuxord> #intsal
[10:32] <fuxord> #intsall
[10:32] <eyequeue> dark00wl, getting you the gui/gnome
[10:33] <eyequeue> GDM (1) [gdmsetup]    - The GNOME Display Manager
[10:33] <eyequeue> gdm (1)              - The GNOME Display Manager
[10:33] <W_McL> natural20, check if you are behind one and if yes, check it's settings
 ok,tnx
[10:33] <natural20> W_McL, i believe it is a router
[10:33] <graft> gnujack: maybe it just pukes on your nvidia card, period, and that's the one it defaults to?
[10:33] <natural20> W_McL, what settings am i checking?
[10:33] <abo> does anyone know which JAR I should include if I'm building a SWT program in Eclipse in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <santa99> eyequeue, what tool can you recommend for scp ?
[10:33] <Draconicus> graft: No change. Now what did you want me to do?
[10:33] <fuxord> i have a spare pc with a totaly blank hd, no OS on it,is it possible to instal ubuntu on it? if so, how
[10:33] <eyequeue> santa99, um, scp itself?
[10:33] <W_McL> natural20, the settings of your router
[10:33] <gnujack> thats possible....its a fx 5200, older card maybe thats the issue (although i doubt it)
[10:33] <misieq_> fuxord: put your cd in cd drive and boot it
[10:34] <eyequeue> santa99, what are you trying to do?
[10:34] <graft> Draconicus: env > shell1 in a non-working tab and env > shell2 in a working tab, then diff shell1 shell2
[10:34] <gnujack> hopefully this works the way im doing it....id like to keep my 2 card setup
[10:34] <santa99> eyequeue, a program like winscp with gui
[10:34] <santa99> eyequeue, i want to upload a homepage
[10:34] <natural20> W_McL, but settings for what? to see if there is a firewall?
[10:34] <eyequeue> santa99, no idea what that is, sorry
[10:34] <gnujack> cause we all know what a pain ATI is in ubuntu (especially with xgl)
[10:34] <fuxord> yeah, but its a fairly on pc, from around 2001, but the thng is it wont boot, i just get a message "no os found" i check bios and everything is in order. anything else i can do?
[10:34] <clarsen> !sparc
[10:34] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[10:34] <santa99> eyequeue, and therefore i have to change some permissions
[10:34] <abo> fuxord, download the Ubuntu 6,06 image, create the cd from the image, boot using the cd ... and the rest is very easy ..follow instructions
[10:34] <eyequeue> santa99, scp index.html remotehost://var/www
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy> Got a problem.... I just returned home to my locked screen saver, and when I give it my CORRECT password, it tells me it's incorrect and denies me. What's the issue here??
[10:35] <misieq_> fuxord: then check /install on cd, there is a floppy boot image
[10:35] <graft> is there any point to running xgl right now anyway?
[10:35] <fuxord> alright
[10:35] <foo> Hm, Ijust turned on my ubuntu box and the resolution is at like 640xsomething ... very large... it was working fine last time I was on it and I never modified the resolution. Any ideas? I try to change it and it only has 1 option.
[10:35] <gnujack> why wouldnt there be?
[10:35] <eyequeue> santa99, ssh remotehost   then chmod 755 /var/www/index.html  or whatever
[10:35] <graft> what do you get out of it?
[10:35] <gnujack> cool graphical effects :)
[10:36] <g333k_work> Hi Have anybody here had set up autologin using gdm with specific user for each terminal? Something Like Kiosk MOde?
[10:36] <fuxord> to make a boot floppy, do i just cut/paste the files into the floppy, or is there anything else i must do?
[10:36] <graft> with what, compiz or something?
[10:36] <gnujack> yes
[10:36] <W_McL> natural20, yes. check if your router has a builtin firewall and check it's settings
[10:36] <graft> isn't that awfully crashy alpha stuff still?
[10:36] <Draconicus> graft: It seems the only differences are the window IDs. It also printed "4c4" above the first ID and "---" above the second ID. Does this matter?
[10:36] <BHSPitLappy> fuxord, you'll run the grub installer, and tell it /dev/fd0
[10:36] <gnujack> supposedly compiz is very stable, just not on ATI for some reason
[10:36] <gnujack> partially because of the driver issues
[10:36] <BHSPitLappy> ATI's bad about drivers.
[10:37] <gnujack> agreed
[10:37] <graft> Draconicus: who what now?
[10:37] <graft> Draconicus: --- and 4c4?
[10:38] <natural20> W_McL, ok, my router's firewall was set to allow all traffic, no issue there.
[10:38] <Draconicus> graft: When diff printed the differences, it printed like this, where \ means a carriage return: 4c4 \ (window ID) \ --- \ (window ID)
[10:38] <graft> gnujack: hrm last time i ran it on nvidia it fell over constantly... though maybe this was my fault... also i run KDE
[10:38] <gnujack> its more stable on gnome
[10:38] <graft> Draconicus: ah, that's just the output of diff, saying change in line 4
[10:38] <misieq_> how can i change screen resolution when using xgl?
[10:39] <W_McL> natural20, ok. so what exactly does not work?
[10:39] <eyequeue> !xgl > misieq_
[10:39] <graft> gnujack: makes sense...
[10:39] <fuxord> i am not sure what you mean by grub installer, can someone walk me through it?
[10:39] <gnujack> ahh ok ill be back thanks
[10:39] <Draconicus> graft: Ah. Okay. So the only difference between them is the window ID. Specifically "WINDOWID=33554544" and "WINDOWID=33554861"
[10:40] <graft> Draconicus: erm, what if you do the same thing with 'set' instead of 'env'?
[10:40] <lordhelmet> fuxford: man grub-install and man grub-floppy
[10:40] <santa99> eyequeue, it works the way you told me and its quite comfortable
[10:40] <santa99> eyequeue, thx
[10:40] <eyequeue> santa99, no prob
[10:40] <Cirvin_Fox> ok, back to the firewire card issue, it was working fine last night and i was able to capture video from my camera flawlessly, but then today my computer hung up for some reason and i rebooted. after that, it didnt register and there is no dev node for it
[10:40] <foo> Hm, Ijust turned on my ubuntu box and the resolution is at like 640xsomething ... very large... it was working fine last time I was on it and I never modified the resolution. Any ideas? I try to change it and it only has 1 option. oh, it's 640x480. Any ideas.. .it has been working fine at 1280x1040 or whatever... and now it's not. hm
[10:40] <IndyBC> Does anybody know, how do I change PATH ?
[10:40] <natural20> i can't enter yahoo groups members area (and various other log-in sites), i can't upload anything via FTP.  I've tried multiple browsers/clients, everything stalls and/or fails.
[10:40] <sethk> IndyBC, permanently or temporarily
[10:41] <natural20> W_McL, i can't enter yahoo groups members area (and various other log-in sites), i can't upload anything via FTP.  I've tried multiple browsers/clients, everything stalls and/or fails.
[10:41] <IndyBC> sethk: permanently
[10:41] <void^> foo: did you boot with your monitor switched off?
[10:41] <foo> void^: possibly, yeah. That makes a difference? I'll be darn.
[10:41] <Cirvin_Fox> i checked dmesg and i got a block of this
[10:41] <Cirvin_Fox> [  125.676169]  ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received outside of bus reset sequence
[10:41] <void^> foo: just restart X
[10:41] <sethk> IndyBC, you can add a statement to your $HOME/.bashrc file (if you use bash)
[10:41] <lordhelmet> foo: yeah sometimes it does..kinda sucks
[10:41] <IndyBC> sethk: ok, thanks :-)
[10:42] <foo> I'll be darn.
[10:42] <foo> Thanks.
[10:42] <W_McL> natural20, can you reach the adresses of the sites in any other way? do the servers answer to a ping?
[10:42] <Cirvin_Fox> i fear there is some conflict with my soundcard, but it was working just fine last night so i dont see why it shouldnt now
[10:42] <void^> it's because of autodetection of the monitor's timings.. if it can't read the timings it had to default back to lowres vga..
[10:42] <eyequeue> foo  /nick darn   :)
[10:42] <foo> eyequeue: My nicks cooler than darn. What are you trying to say? :P
[10:42] <Naedh> Hi, I'm a new-comer to Ubuntu (and to linux in general), and I'm stucked with a 640x480 resolution. My video-card is the deplorable Geforce 4MX, and my monitor is a Samsung Syncmaster 957p. Also: it's damn difficult to see much text with such a low reso. ;_;
[10:42] <brent> can anyone tell me what is the definition of an "untriaged" bug on launchpad.net?
[10:42] <xst>  When I type munin-node-configure I get a long list of plugins. How do I enable them?
[10:42] <eyequeue> foo, *giggle*
[10:43] <sethk> brent, one that has been entered but not yet looked at by anyone
[10:43] <natural20> W_McL, i don't know how i would reach the sites without a browser, yes they answer to a ping
[10:43] <brent> thanks bro
[10:43] <IndyBC> sethk: and waht if I want to remove something from PATH ?
[10:43] <Cirvin_Fox> can anyone help me with this firewire card?
[10:43] <sethk> IndyBC, you can either agument the path in .bashrc, or replace it
[10:43] <sethk> IndyBC, obviously, to remove something from it, you replace it
[10:43] <W_McL> natural20, do those sites use some plugins like for example flash, and you don't have it installed?
[10:44] <IndyBC> sethk: ok, thanks :)
[10:44] <fuxord> how do i use the smart boot manager, do i just paste the single .dsk file into a floopy, insert and restart? didnt work..nothing happened : (
[10:44] <greg> hi
[10:44] <Draconicus> graft: Only extra difference is a "PIPELINE" thing, which only differs by a single number.
[10:44] <greg> can someone help me with my tune card?
[10:45] <canute> Hi, how can I have multiple sound sources, right now I can't listen to music when playing on cedega :(
[10:45] <greg> its reconized and i have xawtv installed
[10:45] <Naedh> Anyone?
[10:45] <greg> but i cant get it to work
[10:45] <sethk> canute, usually that means the sound server isn't running
[10:45] <Cirvin_Fox> why would my firewire card be working one minute and then not the next? i changed nothing
[10:46] <canute> sethk: huh? I can listen to music OR have the sound from the game, but not both
[10:46] <sethk> Naedh, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, select the resolutions you want
[10:46] <greg> Civirn_Fox is that u daxter?
[10:46] <Cirvin_Fox> yes
[10:46] <greg> hi
[10:46] <greg> lol
[10:46] <sethk> canute, correct.  that's what happens when the sound server isn't running
[10:46] <canute> sethk: oh, ok thanks
[10:46] <Naedh> sethk: thanks. In the terminal?
[10:46] <oheo> ok
[10:47] <canute> atleast now I have something to google for ;)
[10:47] <gb453> during ubuntu installation, will "Use the largest continuous free space" use unallocated HD space or will it use my existing partitions?
[10:47] <greg> How do i setup my tv tuner card with xawtv?
[10:47] <Don_jr> I'm having trouble configuring Evolution.  my account needs a password but there's no place for me to put one in, and when it tries to recieve mail it keeps timing out?
[10:47] <Cirvin_Fox> i give up
[10:47] <eyequeue> unallocated
[10:48] <wamd> Hi all.
[10:48] <greg> HELLO
[10:48] <wamd>  I'm having an issue with a USB hard drive.  It's automounting, but it's not accessible by regular users.
[10:48] <sethk> Naedh, yes
[10:49] <natural20> W_McL, no the only thing they require is cookies, which is enabled
[10:49] <gb453> eyequeue: thanks, are you certain it wont touch my other drives? i have about 8 gigs unallocated(not formatted) i'd like it to use
[10:49] <eyequeue> gb453, select it, but dpn't commit until you see for yourself :)
[10:49] <W_McL> natural20, sorry... don't know how to help
[10:50] <Don_jr> is there a better mail client to use than evolution?
[10:50] <eyequeue> gb453, it should make an 8gb partition for you
[10:50] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: thunderbird
[10:50] <abo> anyone knows where the eclipse libraries are located under ubuntu?
[10:50] <Don_jr> lordhelmet thanx, I'll get that one.  I'm finally online, had to get a new card
[10:50] <eyequeue> Don_jr, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird mutt
[10:50] <gb453> eyequeue: it will also make the swap partition from the free block?
[10:50] <abhinay> i have installed wine, the .exe files are not opening itself by double clicking them ,  ???
[10:51] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: that sucks...what did you end up with and how did you make it work
[10:51] <eyequeue> gb453, no, make that first
[10:51] <Don_jr> I got a dlink, plugged it in and it ran...that easy
[10:51] <NemesisUK> abhinay, have you run winecfg in a teminal
[10:51] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: shweet
[10:51] <abhinay> NemesisUK, Yes
[10:51] <eclipse_> gah i am having so much damn trouble
[10:52] <NemesisUK> abhinay, associate thekm with .exe files and then dbl clicking should wor
[10:52] <greg> TV TUNER CARD HELP PLZ
[10:52] <lordhelmet> greg: what tuner? what's the problem
[10:53] <greg> i cant get it to work
[10:53] <greg> its detected
[10:53] <greg> i got xatv installed
[10:53] <lordhelmet> greg: what tuner is it?
[10:53] <Ademan> is there any program that enumerates the available network interfaces? and then tells you which are working?
[10:53] <Don_jr> eyequeue does the apt-get install command automatically get things off of the repositories? or do I need them from the repositories first?
[10:53] <greg> but no picture or audio
[10:54] <greg> wintv-go-plus
[10:54] <Naedh> ... I am pathetic. I did a course on bash two years ago, and now I've forgotten everything. How do I change to root?
[10:54] <eyequeue> Ademan, ifconfig
[10:54] <gb453> eyequeue: im installing, thanks for the help, the confirmation screen showed that the "Use the largest continuous free space" option formats BOTH the ext3 and swap partitions
[10:54] <eyequeue> Don_jr, auto
[10:54] <lordhelmet> greg: i seem to remember having problems with xatv....have you tried busting out mythtv? a bit more setup involved but very nic
[10:54] <lordhelmet> ncie
[10:54] <lordhelmet> nice*
[10:54] <eyequeue> gb453, ah cool
[10:54] <BHSPitLappy> Got a problem.... I just returned home to my locked screen saver, and when I give it my CORRECT password, it tells me it's incorrect and denies me. What's the issue here??
[10:54] <Ademan> eyequeue: ok i'll check it out thanks
[10:54] <baskew> greg: that is pci right?
[10:54] <abhinay> NemesisUK, how to accossiate exe files ? how can i do that ?
[10:54] <Don_jr> eyequeue I did the killall gnome-panel like you told me to, I still can't find any of the programs that I DL's earlier using synoptic
[10:54] <greg> i couldnt install mythtv i tried
[10:54] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: that's the best part about apt-get/aptitude.....you just sit back and it downloads, installs and configures :D
[10:55] <greg> i got to configuring it it kept randomly closing
[10:55] <eyequeue> Ademan, "UP" there means what it says, its lack means it is down
[10:55] <NemesisUK> abhinay, right click on the exe file and goto open with and add wine as the default app to open them with
[10:55] <lordhelmet> Don_jr: sometimes programs show up in Lost and Found, or not at all (i've found for some anyway)
[10:55] <eyequeue> Don_jr, they apparently don't have menu entries?  are they gnome apps?
[10:56] <NemesisUK> or launcher, you could just create shortcuts/launchers for your exe files
[10:56] <bean-oh> BHSPitLappy, i had the same issue last night
[10:56] <Don_jr> eyequeue not sure I don't think some of them are...not sure how to get to them otherwise.  and this thunderbird setup is asking me questions I dont' know.  what is my 'mail name'
[10:56] <Ademan> eyequeue: beautiful, now is there a command that could enable a selected network interface? (really i just want to automate switching between wired and wireless ethernet)
[10:56] <DigitalNinja> I'm using an IBM ThinkPad T42 with the ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I've got the "radeon" drive installed and working but glxinfo says I don't have direct rendering. What's going on here?
[10:56] <BHSPitLappy> bean-oh, find anything out?
[10:56] <BHSPitLappy> maybe a bad update?
[10:57] <eyequeue> Don_jr, foo@wherever, foo
[10:57] <abhinay> NemesisUK, thank you
[10:57] <NemesisUK> np
[10:57] <eyequeue> Ademan, sudo ifup wlan0 ; sudo ifdown eth0
[10:57] <PAPETOWE> Does any know why my connection would fail while trying to connect on wireless assitant?
[10:57] <Don_jr> eyequeue so it's just my e-mail address?
[10:57] <eyequeue> Don_jr, yeah, not complex
[10:57] <bean-oh> BHSPitLappy, naw, after frustration, i killed the X session, and rebooted and found I had some bad inodes, did a fsck in maintenance mode, and after that everything seemed ok
[10:58] <jeeppi> #vaasa
[10:58] <PAPETOWE> i heard suse is better with wireless, is this correct
[10:58] <Don_jr> eyequeue now back to my downloads, if they are not gnome packages, hwo do I find them and run them?
[10:58] <dalila> what am i missing?  i have flash and java yet i cant view anything past the first page @ toyota.com
[10:58] <eyequeue> Don_jr, console apps?  from terminal
[10:59] <lordhelmet> greg: is the tuner module built in or seperate? does it show up somewhere in lsmod? i think it should be 'bttv'
[10:59] <baskew> greg: http://www.icculus.org/homepages/jcspray/wintv_cx88.html
[10:59] <DigitalNinja> how do I make sure a module starts before another module at boot?
[10:59] <Don_jr> eyequeue I don't know if they are console apps, or KDE apps or gnome...lol
[10:59] <RvGaTe> When i wanted to try out KDE for ubuntu, so i installed it... now, i didn't like it that much, but now when i switch to gnome, it gives me all these kde specific apps in the menu's... how can i clean it up so that i dont have these stuff for kde installed, and remove everything thats kde related?
[10:59] <DigitalNinja> I need intel_agp and agpgart to load before the radeon driver.
[10:59] <Ademan> eyequeue: is there a way to make that run every time a network interface goes down? or is the best way to do it add it to crontab at a reasonable interval?
[11:00] <eyequeue> Don_jr, typically they are launched from something in /usr/bin/ so to find the command, type this:  dpkg -L foo | grep bin
[11:00] <eyequeue> Ademan, i guess crontab
[11:00] <lordhelmet> RvGaTe: try 'aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <lordhelmet> and see what it wants to remove
[11:01] <hawkaloogie> DigitalNinja, if the radeon driver depends on intel_agp and agpgart, then you shouldn't have to do anything
[11:01] <baskew> oh greg is gone hehe
[11:01] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: Then why is glxinfo saying I don't have direct rendering?
[11:02] <Herbal> ive added some folders samba share on my network where can i browse them?
[11:02] <sycho> any suggestions on audio burning software for ubuntu? I've heard of k3b but hear that installs alot of kde as well
[11:02] <Herbal> k3b is good though
[11:02] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: From what I'm seeing I have 3D support but it's very slow.
[11:02] <Naedh> I give up. How do you login as root again? ;_;
[11:02] <BHSPitLappy> sycho, k3b is good.
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> Naedh: sudo
[11:02] <DigitalNinja> And I don't have direct rendering
[11:02] <BHSPitLappy> worth the KDE components, I think
[11:02] <Naedh> sudo?
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> !sudo > Naedh
[11:03] <npodges> after some time, my wireless fails and doesnt start again until i reboot. card is broadcom 4311; dmesg | tail is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21670
[11:03] <Herbal> BHSPitLappy: i agree
[11:03] <sycho> ok.. I'll give that a go then.. thanks
[11:04] <Naedh> sudo mystifies me. I don't remember anything like that. :(
[11:04] <hawkaloogie> DigitalNinja, your X config is using the correct driver? you've checked out man depmod and man modprobe?
[11:04] <sycho> anyone know is there an updated repositorie for k3b? the one thats in there is an old version.
[11:04] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Naedh
[11:04] <TheGateKeeper> Naedh: what are you trying to do?
[11:04] <lordhelmet> npodges: rmmod the drivers and modprobe them again; try that...you may have to look in /etc/modprobe.d/ for specific options past
[11:04] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: Yup! All the modules are loaded.
[11:04] <Naedh> Ah, thanks. So ubuntu doesn't have a traditional "root" login?
[11:05] <Naedh> Neat.
[11:05] <janbanan> It is a very irritating thing with firefox. If I scroll down a page and click on a link that refers to another page. Well at the new page I click back and get back to the previous page but at the top of this page. It's very very irritating. Is there a way to solve this?
[11:05] <lordhelmet> Naedh: yes and no....
[11:05] <miguel_> Help
[11:05] <eyequeue> Naedh, right
[11:05] <Naedh> thanks!
[11:05] <miguel_> I'm from Spain and i've a problem with my usb hard disk
[11:05] <npodges> lordhelmet: what does boot with irqpoll mean?
[11:05] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: I'm reading some documentation that says I need to load intel_agp and agpgart before the radeon driver
[11:05] <eyequeue> !es > miguel_
[11:05] <lordhelmet> janbanan: i've be getting mad at that too....no clue on how to solve it though
[11:05] <eyequeue> miguel_, if that is helpful
[11:06] <lordhelmet> npodges: not sure exactly
[11:06] [jkakar(n=jkakar@204.174.36.228)]  ?help
[11:07] <hawkaloogie> DigitalNinja, you using the one from apt or the one from ati.com?
[11:08] <bean-oh> anyone know much about creating serial devices?
[11:08] <DigitalNinja> I can't remember which one I got. I was using the "ati" driver for a while. Then I found out I needed to change that to radeon.
[11:08] <eyequeue> bean-oh, man MAKEDEV probably
[11:08] <acidian> I had to get the apt one for my radeon mobility at any rate
[11:08] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: Is there a way for me to check which one I've got.
[11:08] <acidian> if its any help
[11:09] <DigitalNinja> acidian: What's it called
[11:09] <RvGaTe> hm... Who was the guy who gave me the hint on how to remove everything kde related?
[11:09] <acidian> digitalninja, give me a sec
[11:09] <bean-oh> eyequeue, not quite that simple, i'm having problems with the way ubuntu detected my serial port. tried hardcoding some of the undefined settings, and not having much luck
[11:09] <eyequeue> bean-oh, the only idea i had sorry
[11:09] <Sivik> how do i fix a locale problem?
[11:10] <Sivik> perl: warning: setting locale failed
[11:10] <bean-oh> no problem, thanks anyhoo
[11:10] <DigitalNinja> acidian: I've got the fglrx drivers/software installed. I don't think my card supports that though. I think I got my driver from ATI.
[11:11] <Alexi5> i have 2 systems, one with linux (120gb) and windows (80 gb) i got a 300gb hard disk which i am planning to install in one of the systems and make that system a file server. which os is got to put on a file server:windows or linux (ubuntu 6)
[11:11] <DigitalNinja> All I can say for sure is that I'm using the radeon driver
[11:11] <acidian> DigitalNinja: what card do you have?
[11:11] <DigitalNinja> Radeon Mobility 7500
[11:11] <hawkaloogie> DigitalNinja, i found this, might help: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[11:12] <Sivik> can someone help me with a locale problem?
[11:12] <mwe> ?
[11:12] <acidian> yeah, I think where I got help was from wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/ubuntu_dapper_installation_guide
[11:13] <acidian> but I cant open it right now, so cant say for sure
[11:13] <Sivik> perl: warning: setting locale failed
[11:13] <Sivik> how do i fix that?
[11:14] <DigitalNinja> hawkaloogie: That sight talks about the fglrx driver. My card doesn't seem to work with fglrx
[11:14] <simak_clifford> how do I compare to md5sums using a shell script?
[11:14] <acidian> not the one from ati.com maybe, that one didnt work for me
[11:14] <erUSUL> Sivik: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf'
[11:14] <Sivik> ok
[11:15] <yacc> simak_clifford: What do you want to achieve?
[11:15] <simak_clifford> yacc, see if a download matches the right md5sum that came with it for checking.
[11:15] <simak_clifford> yacc, but automated so it's slick
[11:15] <yacc> There is a tool called md5sum :)
[11:16] <simak_clifford> yeah, I can use that.  just want to write a script that'll output "md5sums match!"
[11:16] <deoptima> i have a  ????
[11:16] <Alexi5> i have 2 systems, one with linux (120gb) and windows (80 gb) i got a 300gb hard disk which i am planning to install in one of the systems and make that system a file server. which os is got to put on a file server:windows or linux (ubuntu 6)
[11:17] <deoptima> join #kubuntu
[11:17] <Sivik> erUSUL, when i run the dpkg-reconfigure on the locales, it says a bunch of old stuff is going to install and it needs something newer, i'm trying to use the edgy stuff
[11:17] <hawkaloogie> Alexi5, doesn't matter really, with Samba, windows can access linux filesystem on the network almost like it was an internal filesystem
[11:18] <IcemanV9> any1, what IS a difference between VMplayer AND VMserver??
[11:18] <Alexi5> nice
[11:18] <Sivik> VMplayer will play a VM and VMserver will create a VM
[11:18] <deltab> simak_clifford: some versions of md5sum have an option for that
[11:18] <deltab> IcemanV9: ability to create, I think
[11:19] <Sivik> deltab, yes, VMserver will, VMplayer won't create them
[11:19] <npodges> does anyone know how to boot with the irqpoll option?
[11:19] <Sivik> not i said the blind mand
[11:19] <Sivik> man*
[11:19] <HNT> hello everybody, is there an equivalent of k9copy in GNOME ?
[11:19] <IcemanV9> i see. ok. i can see vmplayer is in repo. vmserver is not .. yet (right?)
[11:19] <Sivik> have you searched google?
[11:19] <Sivik> IcemanV9, thats true, you can download the server from www.vmware.com
[11:19] <eyequeue> copies dogs?  what is it, HNT?
[11:19] <Sivik> IcemanV9, it comes as a .deb for easy install in ubuntu
[11:20] <erUSUL> Sivik: if you are using edgy better ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:20] <Naedh> Do I need to restart after doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:20] <Sivik> Naedh, just restart x, not the whole computer, you can do it using ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:20] <HNT> k9copy is a frontend to vamps, allow the user to make a private shrink of a dvd (like dvdshrin)
[11:21] <Naedh> Sivik: thank you.
[11:21] <eetfunk> hi all!  how can i find the location of my php installation?  on mac os x, I use 'which', but it doesnt seem to work in ubuntu
[11:21] <eyequeue> HNT, not dvd fluent here, sorry
[11:21] <lmosher> Is prelinking on by default in Ubuntu?
[11:21] <sethk> eetfunk, which works
[11:21] <IcemanV9> ok. which one should i use player or server? AND, thanks for providing answers on vmware questions. :)
[11:21] <Seveas> lmosher, fortunately not
[11:22] <sethk> eetfunk, which means either that it isn't installed, or it isn't in your execution search path
[11:22] <eetfunk> ok
[11:22] <eetfunk> thanks
[11:22] <sethk> eetfunk, I don't know what directory to expect it in
[11:22] <IcemanV9> thanks Sivik
[11:22] <sethk> eetfunk, you can use all the usual unix commands to search for files, primarily find and locate
[11:23] <eetfunk> sethk: i found what my problem was, i wasnt looking for the right file :)
[11:23] <sethk> eetfunk, ok  :)
[11:23] <eetfunk> you can add me to the stupid n00b list! :)
[11:24] <IcemanV9> when will networkmanager upgrade to 0.6.4 from 0.6.2? :/
[11:24] <dcordero> hi
[11:25] <m4rk> is there a software region-free  dvd player for ubuntu?
[11:25] <covOPprometheus> I installed and activated a driver for my wlan card, which is recognized, and activated. even the fisical light is on 'on' but I can't connect to the internet
[11:26] <acidian> m4rk:  vlc works for windows
[11:26] <acidian> so it might work in linux aswell
[11:26] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me?
[11:26] <erUSUL> IcemanV9: in edgy i suppose
[11:26] <m4rk> u mean using wine or summink?
[11:26] <kitche> covOPprometheus: did you up the device
[11:26] <FurryNemesis> m4rk, vlc is good. there's a vlc package in the repos I think
[11:26] <IcemanV9> covOPprometheus: ifconfig .. see if there is an ip address or not
[11:27] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: thks
[11:27] <acidian> m4rk: no, vlc is a media player
[11:27] <mr3vil> m4rk i think vlc is pretty damn good
[11:27] <covOPprometheus> eth1      Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:14:A5:9A:7A:F0
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           TX packets:17026 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlnge:1000
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:817248 (798.0 KiB)
[11:27] <covOPprometheus>           Interrupt:10 Basisadresse:0x8000
[11:27] <hawkaloogie> !tell covOPprometheus about paste
[11:27] <erUSUL> !paste > covOPprometheus
[11:27] <acidian> m4rk: just google for vlc, video lan classic
[11:28] <m4rk> nice one
[11:28] <mr3vil> m4rk it is video lan CLIENT
[11:28] <newb> hi can anyone help me with how to configure a dual-headed graphics card and get dual monitors working in ubuntu?
[11:28] <m4rk> it's in that add/remove apps thing
[11:28] <m4rk> woo hoo
[11:28] <RvGaTe> Wow... writing an .iso to disk has never been so easy... i love linux... :D
[11:29] <allen> http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=g74r48hx
[11:29] <allen> try it
[11:29] <allen> http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=g74r48hx
[11:29] <hawkaloogie> Seveas, get allen while you're at it?
[11:29] <allen> try it
[11:29] <allen> http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=g74r48hx
[11:29] <hawkaloogie> danke
[11:29] <Seveas> thanks hawkaloogie
[11:29] <m4rk> thanks guys!
[11:31] <Nae> Hi. After the first time I reconfiged xserver, it crashed on me. I reconfigured it again, rebooted, and now I've got a nice list of screen-resolutions in System > Pref > Screen - too bad none of them do anything. :(
[11:31] <murtog> how do i install svn on ubuntu dapper ? i need to do a checkout on a svn.
[11:32] <acidian> sudo apt-get install svn :)
[11:33] <Nae> When I choose any option, it will flash the "Do you want to keep this resolution" dialogue - without actually changing the resolution.
[11:33] <antonio_> italy
[11:34] <xopher> Nae, tried restarting X ? Ive had this issue with xgl a couple of times and that helped me..
[11:34] <Nae> I will try restarting x again.
[11:35] <ciastek> hi! i look for repo, where i can find amuled, which doesnt depend on x-server (it should depend on wxbase instead of wxgtk). anyone know?
[11:35] <murtog> acidian, it just dosent work: ruivaldo@dap:~/python$ sudo apt-get install svn
[11:35] <murtog> Lendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto
[11:35] <murtog> Construindo rvore de Dependncias... Pronto
[11:35] <murtog> E: Impossvel achar pacote svn
[11:35] <murtog> ruivaldo@dap:~/python$
[11:35] <Nae> Hit's halive! Halive!
[11:35] <acidian> murtog:  ahh, yeah, sorry, its called subversion
[11:36] <Nae> Thank you, the collective hive intelligence of #ubuntu.
[11:36] <acidian> so apt-get install subversion instead
[11:36] <xopher> Nae, no problem ;)
[11:36] <TLE_02> Nae: "hive intelligence of #ubuntu" nice ....
[11:36] <murtog> acidian, ah ok :) Thanks!
[11:37] <acidian> np
[11:38] <rummik> i like firestarter ^_^
[11:40] <FRET> hey all
[11:41] <Nae> Ok, now my next project. Is there any simple way to install something like a codec pack?
[11:41] <acidian> nae Im still on that project :/
[11:42] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[11:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <eletido> Nae: automatix might be something you are looking for
[11:42] <xopher> I wouldnt use automatix
[11:42] <janbanan> How do I write the chmod command to get access to a directory?
[11:42] <apaton> how can i find which pkg has libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?  thx
[11:42] <xopher> But thats just my 20p
[11:42] <eletido> xopher: whats wrong with automatix
[11:42] <deltab> what sort of access, by who?
[11:42] <erUSUL> apaton: chmod 755 dir
[11:43] <janbanan> I wan't to add a file in xmms/skins
[11:43] <xopher> eletido, it screwed up a friends system, bad. 
[11:43] <acidian> Nae: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[11:43] <deltab> chmod +w xmms/skins
[11:43] <Nae> Ok, I'll start with these.
[11:43] <mainer> xopher: i tried 2 versions of easy-Ubuntu,no joy;Automatix worked flawlessly here,just my own experience
[11:43] <DBO> eletido, in general people get upset if you suggest automatix around here, because it has a bad history of crapping out systems
[11:43] <DBO> eletido, it would be best if you just didnt mention it =)
[11:43] <xopher> Well Im happy for you then ;)
[11:43] <eletido> xopher: k, haven't tried it
[11:43] <apaton> erUSUL- how would chmod help? im looking for a file
[11:43] <lupine> use find or slocate?
[11:44] <acidian> Nae: alot of problems with installing codecs that arent "free" and owned by certain groups and companies
[11:44] <eletido> DBO: sorry, didnt know
[11:44] <bean-oh> it worked for me, but i'm not terribly happy with the way it functions. i'd rather do it by hand
[11:44] <erUSUL> apaton: sorry it was intended for janbanan
[11:44] <lupine> slocate is faster, but uses a db so probably wont find recently-created files
[11:44] <erUSUL> janbanan: chmod 755 dir
[11:44] <DBO> eletido, just letting you know is all =)
[11:44] <apaton> the file is not installed, whi pkg would "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" be in
[11:44] <mainer> its linux do it your way:),i prefer fast n easy:)
[11:44] <apaton> erUSUL- NP
[11:44] <Nae> acidian: I was more of thinking stuff that's included in, say, CCCP - FF, etc.
[11:44] <erUSUL> apaton: apt-cache seerch libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[11:45] <janbanan> erUSUL: thanks mate
[11:45] <apaton> erUSUL- apt-cache only looks for pkgages and not file names, as far as I can tell.
[11:45] <Nae> I would like to view .avis, .mkvs, some .ogm, divx/xvid and h.26wossname.
[11:45] <Nae> Stuff like that.
[11:46] <eletido> whoops
[11:46] <rdz> Nae, i'd recommend mplayer
[11:46] <erUSUL> apaton: better try apt-cache seerch libstdc++
[11:46] <erUSUL> Nae: xine or gmplayer (mplayer)
[11:47] <Nae> I'll try mplayer.
[11:47] <acidian> Nae:  vlc is also nice
[11:47] <Ktron> Looking for help with an installation problem-- trying to install from a livecd, graphical indicator hangs at 'Detecting file systems...' and in the log file the last 3 lines are 'auto_mountpoints' 'autouse_swap' 'backup'... help?
[11:47] <apaton> erUSUL, tried that, it give me a list of libstc++ options, but not sure which on has the file "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"
[11:47] <pibarnas> Did anyone compile in Ubuntu the new fluxbox version (1.0-rc2)? I tried and got an error on imlib2, a file "xpm.h" is missing... Could someone help me?
[11:48] <Nae> Do these players come with inbuilt codicity?
[11:48] <jman> in bash if i want to echo "-" eight times what is syntax --sorry for question but i cant find it
[11:48] <lupine> echo -------- ?
[11:48] <jman> like "-" * 8
[11:48] <erUSUL> apaton: my bet will be libstdc++6
[11:48] <bean-oh> act, sorry channel.
[11:48] <cafuego> jman: for i in `seq 1 8`; do echo "-"; done
[11:48] <jman> ty
[11:49] <acidian> I think I get better sound amplification in windows for some reason
[11:49] <lupine> acidian: I've noticed that at times, as well
[11:49] <cafuego> Windows is american, that's why it yells.
[11:49] <lupine> so I just crank up the mixer to max ;)
[11:49] <acidian> Im on a laptop, not much to crank up :/
[11:50] <apaton> erUSUL: Nope not in there checked with "dpkg -L libstdc++6".
[11:50] <xopher> Nae, when you install mplayer, along with its dependencies, itll play about anything, you still need to install the w32codecs pack to be able to play wmvs and such though
[11:50] <erUSUL> apaton: what are you trying to run?
[11:50] <acke> hey i installed edgy. but i need to reconfigure my xorg.conf. whats the terminal command for doing that?
[11:51] <erUSUL> acke: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:51] <Ktron> Looking for help with an installation that hangs...
[11:51] <apaton> erUSUL, Im tring to run IBM's Director server on my ubuntu LAMP server.
[11:51] <lordhelmet> ktron: at what point in install
[11:52] <apaton> erUSUL, its a remote mgt software
[11:52] <Nae> ok. now that I have Ubuntu on my computer... Do I get to learn a secret handshake?
[11:52] <Nae> Or maybe some sort of simple symbol that I can use to identify other... "linux-users".
[11:52] <joseph> hi i need to develop stuff with winbind and i need the dev files for whatever ubuntu packages files such as winbindd_nss.h
[11:52] <acidian> Nae: the "linux handshake" yeah
[11:52] <joseph> what would the package name be?
[11:53] <joseph> thanks in advance, joseph
[11:53] <Nae> acidian: neat.
[11:53] <lupine> don't forget to get your Linuxcard
[11:53] <Ktron> lordhelmet: the graphical progress window says 'Detecting file systems' but in the log file it has the lines 'filesystems_detected' then 'auto_mountpoints' then 'autouse_swap' then 'backup' and ends
[11:53] <acidian> Nae: but I started using ubuntu 2 days ago, so I havent learned it yet :/
[11:53] <mlehrer> i'll bet she gives great helmet
[11:53] <apaton> erUSUL, ive googled and apt-file looks like the command I need, but cant find that.
[11:53] <lupine> lets you collect loyalty points at many linux-compatible outlets ;)
[11:53] <Nae> Hehe.
[11:53] <lupine> (loyalty points only redeemable in IRC flamewars)
[11:54] <xopher> 'Wear linux and get all the chicks' (c)
[11:54] <erUSUL> apaton: i will do a link (sudo  ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3) and then run 'sudo ldconfig'
[11:54] <raazman> hi...
[11:54] <xopher> hi
[11:54] <acidian> pinguin logo draws chicks like cats to milk
[11:54] <apaton> erUSUL - I will give it a go - thx
[11:54] <Ktron> lordhelmet: anything I can look up that would help?
[11:54] <SuSEMan> ya i just had a question about the cd and dvd
[11:55] <xopher> you lost it?
[11:55] <SuSEMan> whats the difference between the two?
[11:55] <lupine> depends on the sort of chicks you like, I guess
[11:55] <izm99> hi all.  I just added more ram to my laptop, and now ubuntu won't start.  ideas?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> acidian: xopher join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue that topic
[11:55] <xopher> dvd, obviously, has room for more packages
[11:55] <xopher> gnomefreak, got it ;)
[11:55] <DanaG> DVD seems to have higher throughput on read, too.
[11:56] <Nae> Hm. Is there any way to change the audiostream of an .mkv or .ogm file in Mplayer?
[11:56] <SuSEMan> so it contains more packages?
[11:56] <jman> izm99: do you get to the grub menu at all? how far does it boot?
[11:56] <joseph> joseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-cache search winbindd_nss.h
[11:56] <deltab> Nae: -aid
[11:56] <joseph> joseph@reborn:/usr/include$ apt-file search winbindd_nss.h
[11:56] <joseph> nothing that i want is there
[11:56] <izm99> jman, yeah, passed grub.  looks like it froze when starting gdm
[11:56] <SuSEMan> is there a list of the extra packages that are on the dvd than on the cd
[11:56] <Nae> -aid, deltab?
[11:56] <izm99> jman, XP and livecd both work
[11:56] <lupine> izm99: can you get into console?
[11:56] <eletido> DBO: sorry, i accidently closed this channel before  i read what you wrote about automatix
[11:57] <gnomefreak> SuSEMan: only if you plan on installing packages without internet service
[11:57] <lupine> and is the ram compatible?
[11:57] <acidian> SuSEMan: dont think you need the extra packages
[11:57] <eletido> why isnt it suggested in this channel?
[11:57] <SuSEMan> ok thnx
[11:57] <lupine> I've had major problems before (win and Lin) with PCs crashing at GUI because the ram is slightly dodgy
[11:57] <acidian> SuSEMan: you get all you need from apt-get and synaptic
[11:57] <izm99> lupine, yes, it's compatible.  as far as i know.  XP and LiveCD both work
[11:57] <gnomefreak> eletido: ubuntu doesnt support automatix
[11:57] <shiznix`> yo
[11:57] <izm99> I'll try going into recovery mode....
[11:57] <deltab> Nae: or # while playing
[11:58] <eletido> gnomefreak: thanks.
[11:58] <jman> izm99: i would select memtest at grub menu just to be safe and test the ram
[11:58] <|thunder> i use automatix for a few things on dapper 64
[11:58] <lupine> there's no technical reason why extra (compatible) RAM should break it
[11:58] <izm99> jman, ooooh... ok
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> gnomefreak: they do support automatrix to the extent that folks pick up the pieces in here :-)
[11:59] <izm99> woah.  this looks like it will take a while
[11:59] <eletido> gnomefreak: gotcha. just wondering.
[11:59] <Ktron> So, when I try to install off of a dapper livecd, it hangs-- would using the alternative install cd be more likely to work?
[11:59] <shiznix`> you tell me ;)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> TheGateKeeper: sometimes
[11:59] <m4rk> i am trying to get libdvdcss but it says "A later version is available in a software channel"
[11:59] <m4rk> how do I find this software channel?
[12:00] <erUSUL> !dvd
[12:00] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:00] <FMJ|Cyonyc> !ssh
[12:00] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> eletido: what is it that you want to install?
[12:00] <Don_jr> Anyone offer a good website for learning python or zsh?