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Bbettobut kcker don run12:09
soulrideryes intelikey12:09
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Bbettoi don't know why12:10
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intelikeyBbetto i don't either.   you can run kcontrol and see about the settings on the pannel12:10
moowhen ill type ./Configure i get the message "Your system does nat have 'cc' installed12:10
soulrideryou need a C compiler12:10
soulridersudo apt-get install gcc12:10
intelikeymoo that's nice,  got any questions ?12:11
soulrideryou might also wanna do sudo apt-get install c++12:11
ParkotronDoes anyone here know much about powernowd?12:11
intelikeybut moo what you want to install is    build-essential12:11
soulriderthat too12:11
soulriderbut i dont think it uncludes g++ and gcc12:12
moosry im new to linux12:12
soulriderdo this12:12
soulridersudo apt.get install build-essential12:12
soulriderif ./configure still fails12:12
intelikeyit's a meta package that depends on many things you need including gcc12:12
soulridersudo apt-get install gcc12:12
soulriderand sudo apt-get install g++12:12
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mooallready typed g++12:12
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:12
mooapt-get install g++12:12
soulriderdamn, i gotta go12:13
soulriderill be back later12:13
soulridersee ya!12:13
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:13
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!12:13
DaSkreechintelikey: Eh?12:13
intelikeyDaSkreech nothing.    oh wait.   isn't there a right click on the desktop menu that allows for add pannel ?12:14
intelikeyis add panel in that menu ?12:14
ParkotronI have an AMD Athlon64 3000+ with two possible clock speeds: 1000MHz and 1800MHz. CPU stepping worked out of the box on Breezy, but the processor nevers slows down on Dapper. powernowd is running and it properly identifies my processor including the available frequencies, but no throttling occurs. Does anyone have any ideas?12:14
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DaSkreechCatull_Mac: What's going on?12:14
DaSkreechintelikey: Huh?12:15
moohm...   /usr/src is empty12:15
moowhere is the kubuntu Linux Kernel sourc directory?#12:15
cutepinkbunniesok so how do I run kdevelop?12:15
TheGateKeeperMy pannel menu is on right click K button12:15
intelikeymoo  did you install the source ?12:15
mooi only install from live cd and get some apps12:16
osh_cutepinkbunnies: from the menu?12:16
cutepinkbunniesosh_: I don't see it on the menu :(12:16
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DaSkreechintelikey, Catull_Mac: Ooops Gotta go12:17
moomust i download the kernel soruce and unpack it in /usr/src/linux/ ?12:17
osh_cutepinkbunnies: I think it's under "Development" or something.12:17
cutepinkbunniesya there is no development on my menu :(12:17
intelikeycutepinkbunnies things don't instantly appear in the menu    but it should show up there within a few minutes after it's installed.12:17
Catull_Macdaskreech: thx a lot so far12:17
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Sure Did you find what I was talking about?12:18
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osh_cutepinkbunnies: or just type kdevelop3 in any console. that'll start it.12:18
Catull_Macdaskreech: im abaout to ask some krauts ;)12:18
moosomeone help me plz ^^  i only want to get my wlan drivers working on ubuntu12:18
intelikeymoo apt-get install linux-source    but it's the ubuntu package there is newer source at kernel.org  or some place12:18
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DaSkreechAll right well When you get to disk management then check to make sure that the two paritions have been created. If they are then reboot with the CD :)12:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:19
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DaSkreechintelikey: If Catull_Mac goes awry see if you can help with the alternate CD12:20
cutepinkbunniesthe thing launches then dissapears12:20
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Catull_Macdaskreech: you?re great... it seems i will come here more often12:20
m`kay_ubunuxguten abend12:20
m`kay_ubunuxhi all12:20
DaSkreechCatull_Mac: Please do :012:20
intelikeyi'll answer questions as honestly as humour will allow12:20
m`kay_ubunuxi have a big problem to install my ati radeon 9800. who would me help please12:21
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:21
Catull_Machehe... that?s fine... it seems they don?t understand my problem at kubuntu-de ^^12:21
osh_cutepinkbunnies: how'd you install it?12:21
m`kay_ubunux/join #kubuntu-de12:21
intelikeyCatull_Mac that was for m`kay_ubunux12:21
m`kay_ubunuxintelikey: :-(12:22
spazzargh what is the easiest way to get a file from someone on windows12:22
spazzlike 4mb file12:22
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Catull_Macthats what i thought12:22
osh_m`kay_ubunux: What's the problem?12:22
drbreenspazz: make a smb share12:23
drbreenspazz: then opint konqueror to it12:23
intelikeyspazz rsync maybe12:23
osh_m`kay_ubunux: I've got a card like that and it works fine. I don't do proprietary drivers though.12:23
moowhere the source is now stored?12:23
spazzWell, he has AIM and I have ... this pos that doesnt do file transfers like a normal porgram should.12:23
spazzSo, I was thinking file upload website, but argh cant find a good one12:23
m`kay_ubunuxhow can i remove the proprietary drivers and install the others?12:24
larson9999linux rocks!12:25
intelikeylarson9999 most of the time.12:25
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cutepinkbunniesosh_: I installed via KDE12:25
cutepinkbunniesnot a single frikin thing works12:25
osh_m`kay_ubunux: it comes with the free drivers if you don't specifically add the ati-drivers.12:26
larson9999Catull_Mac: still at it?  i'm guessing the mac on your nick means you don't have linux working yet?12:26
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osh_cutepinkbunnies: Installed through adept?12:26
cutepinkbunniesosh_: yes12:26
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osh_cutepinkbunnies: remove it and reinstall it. Perhaps something went wrong during installation.12:28
pierrethhow can i mark a message as spam in kontact?12:28
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intelikeyi'm of the firm impression that one should never update software unless there is something seriously wrong with what he's got.     updates are for people that like to twitter tinker and fiddle with the system all time.12:28
linuxkid2maybe, but I say people who use edgy are that way12:29
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crimsun(some of kinda have to use edgy since we, well, make it?)12:29
larson9999intelikey: or if there is a new feature that he wants, or if there is a security concern, or the wind is blowing in the right direction12:29
Catull_Maclarson9999: hi :)  ummm just finished partitioning with mpart ;)12:29
crimsunsome of us, rather.12:29
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intelikeyQ. 'what so linux users do?'    A. 'they install software.'12:29
linuxkid2intelikey: you should at least have the security repos enabled.12:30
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intelikeylinuxkid2 why ?   can you hack my box ?12:31
drbreenintelikey: unlikely, but security is GOOD !12:32
linuxkid2intelikey: I can't, but I don't know how. It's just good practice.12:32
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larson9999intelikey: i don't install any more in linux than i did in windows.  i used mostly OSS in windows too but the difference there is windows has a security patch or 2 just about everyday so i have to upgrade12:32
linuxkid2it's not as critical as when you use windows by any means, but still...12:32
intelikeydrbreen linuxkid2 better to have everything working, than to have security that doesn't run....12:33
linuxkid2I've yet to have an upgrade break anything. I kind of missed that problem X upgrade.12:33
intelikeylarson9999 no doubt   :)12:33
drbreenintelikey: it is not likely that security will break your system12:33
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drbreenintelikey: your thinking in monopoly$oft dimensions ;)12:34
intelikeydrbreen should i point at the last two weeks track record    :)12:34
linuxkid2you want security and usabillity, then use the stable version of Debian12:34
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himanika#theone serv12:34
drbreenyeah debian stable for the win !12:34
drbreeni probably missed the x server break too12:34
crimsunI intentionally missed it by running Edgy.12:35
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intelikeylinuxkid2 by all means.  but i didn't want to spam the channel with advertizements.....12:35
linuxkid2I never used it, sorry :-(12:35
drbreenor use stable and secure SLACKWARE !!!11112:35
Catull_Macintelikey: i boot now from the livecd12:36
linuxkid2yeah slack. ha ha!12:36
intelikeycrimsun you rascle12:36
drbreeni stared with slackware. told me many things 'bout linux usage und unix systems in general12:36
linuxkid2I might try gentoo one of these days.12:36
drbreennow im at (k|x)ubuntu12:36
drbreenuse koroora - gentoo for whimps12:37
intelikeyCatull_Mac i haven't been keeping track of what you have done   could you give me a breif 1. 2. 3.  on what you've done ?12:37
drbreen<linuxkid2> use koroora - gentoo for whimps12:37
linuxkid2Does it work on semi-old hardware as well as Gentoo?12:37
drbreenlinuxkid2: koroora is just precompiled gentoo stuff - so that it does not take 3 days to set up a system12:38
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drbreenlinuxkid2: you can then use it as gentoo12:38
linuxkid2I thought the point of gentoo was the fact that things had to compile.12:38
linuxkid2for speed and customizability.12:39
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pierrethsomeone knows how to import from thunderbird to kontact?12:39
Catull_Macintelikey: got the partitions running finally (was a long way) and i?m about to install kubuntu from the livecd i?ve dloaded...i?m new 2linux.. absolute n00b^^12:39
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drbreenCatull_Mac: dont use kde if you are new to linux - it will eat your brain when you try to configure every little bit of your UI12:40
intelikeyCatull_Mac ok i'll try to answer any questions you ask.   ready to boot the live cd ?12:40
pierrethdrbreen: i am new to linux and kde is perfect for me12:41
Catull_Macintelikey: already done that12:41
intelikeysee the install to hard drive icon12:41
springmanwhat is a good FTP client?12:41
Catull_Maci?m  working on win and mac now for years drbreen ;)12:41
drbreenpierreth: the last three ppl i told to install kubuntu configured the shit out of it.12:41
Catull_Macintelikey: yep.. i?ll klick it12:42
intelikeyspringman cli  ncftp12:42
drbreen<springman> konqueror is a good ftp client ?12:42
Sannespringman: konqueror, kftpgrabber12:42
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drbreeni should suggest slackware and fluxbox to linux newbs12:42
springmanI am used to filezilla, is any of those comperable?12:42
drbreenthat would be fun12:42
pierrethdrbreen: it takes some to get around, may be so good for unexperienced users12:43
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intelikeykonqueror is your friend12:43
pierrethdrbreen: some time12:43
Sannespringman: I found kftpgrabber a bit similar. Just try all of them :)12:43
springmangotcha! I am getting them now...12:43
springmanWhere in konqueror do I find FTP client? is it like internet exploder where you just right click and login?12:44
drbreenpierreth: but when they found out everything is configurable they started to ask me about it - and i couldnt resit: ther went my weekend12:44
drbreenspringman: type ftp://theadress.tld in adress input field12:44
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intelikeyCatull_Mac at the point where it asks about automatic or manual partitioning  manual12:44
pierrethdrbreen: what kind of people have you as friend? ;-)12:45
springmandrbreen: i got it thanks!12:45
Sannespringman: in konqueror, you can use the profile "file-management" (or similar) with two panes. Connect to a ftp site with ftp://username@ftp.server.name. When connected, add the address to your bookmarks.12:45
Catull_Macintelikey: i?m at the point of the installtion (step5')...12:45
Catull_Macummm k ;)12:45
springmanSanne: awesome, does any feature like that exist in firefox?12:45
drbreenpierreth: fat girls in pink clothes who name their laptop "bitch" ?12:45
intelikeyread carefully what it's askeing about mount points and formatting Catull_Mac12:46
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intelikeydon't want to format something with data on it.12:46
Sannespringman: you can browser ftp sites in firefox, but it's not an ftp client per se.12:46
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drbreenspringman: no. firefox is for nooobs - konqueror is TEH BROWSER (tm)12:46
springmanSanne: i thought not..12:46
drbreenspringman: konqueror does everything and more12:46
draikfirefox can ftp... get the extension "FireFTP"12:47
Sannespringman: there might be an extension for it, however. I *think* I once saw one, but I might be mistaken.12:47
pierrethi have almost no help in kubuntu, how can i install it?12:47
springmanhahaha.a...wow...TEH, first time i've seen that in here! I always ask my techs "whats TEH STATUS"!12:47
drbreendraik: yeah but konqueror does it OUT OF TEH BOX !12:47
drbreenspringman: your techs ?12:47
intelikeykonqueror is like less and mc and lynx all in one    lol12:47
Catull_Macintelikey: i?m now at the point where he realized my partitions...here is nothing to do for me, is it?12:47
draikdrbreen, I'12:47
springmandrbreen: i own a voice,video,data networking company12:47
springmanoceanlan.com =P12:48
draikdrbreen, I'm just used to firefoxe12:48
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draikwtf is up with extra letters and my cut-off statements today???12:48
drbreenwhich wicked criminal did make the konqueror "show files size graphically"-mode ?12:48
intelikeyCatull_Mac only make sure it lists them correctly and isn't marked for formatting  anything that is data rich.12:48
intelikeywatch the check boxes on the left side12:49
drbreenspringman: and what to the techs say ?12:49
intelikeyright side12:49
intelikey my other left12:49
springmandrbreen: of course they call me a n00b and laff!12:49
Frederickhow do I install realpayer?12:49
drbreenspringman: the would if TEH STATUS werent in caps !12:50
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Sannedrbreen: where's this option for graphical file sizes?12:50
drbreenfrderick: real player is evil.12:50
springmandrbreen: trust me, i am not the smartest person in my company..i dont need to be =) they do all the heavy brain lifting for me12:50
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springmanwhoops..fat finger12:50
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larson9999i like arachne but there is no linux version that's uptodate and it is missing some features12:50
Catull_Macintelikey: k no box checked at the main partition (with xp on it) check box for swap, but none for ext12:50
springmanBTW everyone...gFTP is cool.12:50
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer12:51
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.12:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about FTP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:51
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd12:51
drbreensanne: i dont know where - i enabled it xome day accidentally, laughed a lot and disabled it12:51
springmanoooh...i forgot about pure-ftp..i've used that in the past12:51
intelikeyCatull_Mac i think you'll have to let it format the root partition  that   ext3  /    or it wont install12:51
drbreenlarson9999: what does arachne ?12:51
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drbreenintelikey: plz use reiser3 - its cooler and faster and stuff12:51
intelikeyfs type is optional12:52
Sannedrbreen: haha, yeah, one of those features somewhere deep in the configs :). I still like to see it, will look around, thanks.12:52
intelikeydrbreen no thank.  ext3 is reliable12:52
drbreenintelikey: it is, but it is sooooo... standard ?12:52
drbreensanne: good luck !12:52
Catull_Macintelikey: k  - mount point for xp= /media/hdal1 for swap=swap for ext3=/media/hda5  <--- change this one 2  "/"?12:52
springmanwhat is the equivilent of notepad in nix?12:52
talljon84I'm looking to reimage my machine and trying to decide whether to use Kubuntu or Ubuntu.  For the purposes of XGL, which will work better and be more stable?12:53
Sannedrbreen: thanks :)12:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
larson9999drbreen: it's a lightweight graphical webrowser that used to have a *nix and dos version.  now there is just a dos version.12:53
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intelikeyyes Catull_Mac12:53
jmarimoHello I am looking to install firefox browser on ubuntu and am having problems, i have already downloaded the software and it's a tar file, can anyone assist with instructions, many thanks12:53
drbreenspringman: mousepad12:53
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intelikeyCatull_Mac that is the only ext3   right ?12:53
springmanjmarimo: use Adept, it will make your life easier!!12:53
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drbreenspringman: there are several better editors with synthax highlighting and stuff but no one except mousepad has so few features12:53
springmanjmarimo: it is trickey from what i saw with cli12:54
intelikeyCatull_Mac yes make it /12:54
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jmarimoi have already tried adept but the firefox software is not listed there12:54
intelikeyand tick the format box for it.12:54
Catull_Maci?ve done it already ;)12:54
Sannespringman: in KDE, a simple text editor is kwrite, kate is more advanced12:54
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springmandrbreen: thanks for the tip..is there a notepad++ type of thing?12:54
intelikeyCatull_Mac is installing ?12:54
larson9999XE - the best text editor!  the editor debate never gets old.  or has been too old for far too long12:54
GameOver69hey guys everytime i try to run frostwire i get this error:  runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")12:54
jmarimosorry, actually it's listed but it;s greyed out, any ideas??12:54
Catull_Macintelikey: is about 212:55
LeeJunFanisn't firefox installed by default?12:55
springmanjmarimo: it should be...12:55
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larson9999jmarimo: it's mozilla-firefox in adept.  but i think it's not the newer version12:55
springmanjmarimo: search mozilla-firefox12:55
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Catull_Macthe pc crushed.. bluescreen... o_O12:56
springmanLeeJunFan: No, firefox is not in kubuntu by design..konqueror is built in broswer12:56
jmarimoi have just seached mozilla-firefox but its not listed12:56
Ballistiklook for firefox12:57
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intelikeywouldn't surprise me Catull_Mac    i have never learned to like the *buntu installer12:57
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Catull_Macjust kidding ;)12:57
jmarimoThat is correct, Konqueror is the default, but how can I install firefox12:57
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BallistikLook for firefox in adept, synaptic12:57
BallistikOr just use the command "sudo apt-get install firefox"12:58
intelikeyjmarimo sudo apt-get install firefox     dude.12:58
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GameOver69what is better adept or synaptic?12:58
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Catull_Macintelikey: i want to get rid of xp cause its instable and you tell me you?re not surprised o_O  (ok, it was abad joke... )12:58
BallistikI like synaptic better12:58
Sannejmarimo: you can even search for a package on packages.ubuntu.com, to see what's it called and which respoitory it's in.12:58
BallistikBut they're both good12:58
GameOver69what are the differences12:59
SanneGameOver69: I like Synaptic better because it keeps logs of my installs.12:59
intelikeyCatull_Mac ah ha humour can some times bite the hand that types it     :))))12:59
Catull_Macooh ooh *scared*12:59
intelikeyGameOver69 one is gnome default and the other is kde default01:00
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GameOver69intelikey, oh snyaptic is gnome?01:01
intelikeyit's the default package manager in gnome  (ubuntu)01:01
SanneGameOver69: ah yes, Synaptic needs Gnome libs, which you would have to install extra if you're using KDE.01:01
intelikeywhere adept is the default in kde (kubuntu)01:01
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LeeJunFanum, if firefox is not on the desktop CD and someone installs from that won't main repos be set to that CD, and therefore not have firefox in main?01:02
GameOver69i see.... does anyone know how to install java 6 in kubuntu and use as default?01:02
intelikeyLeeJunFan no01:02
intelikeybreezy was the last release (afik) that used a cd repo01:03
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pierrethhow can i use the stocking bar?01:03
LeeJunFanintelikey: okay - good to know.01:03
springmanGameOver69: good question..i wanna know myself01:03
pierrethi am not able to put something in it01:03
intelikey!repos LeeJunFan01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repos LeeJunFan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
GameOver69there ahs to be a way01:04
intelikey!repos > LeeJunFan01:04
Sanneintelikey: what do you mean? You can always add a cd to your sources.list to use as a repository.01:04
intelikeySanne you can add.  the installer doesn't01:04
Sanneintelikey: hm, I think the text installer does. I can't remember to have put it in myself. Good to know the Live CD installer doesn't, thanks.01:05
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intelikeySanne the alternate install cd or dvd might.    dvd probably   idk  i only have shipit cd's   dialup.01:06
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intelikeycan't go around dl'ing cd's on dialup no can i ?      huh ?   huh ?   tell me !01:07
Sanneintelikey: I will pay attention tomorrow, Kubuntu install is planned for my dearest :). We will use the alternate CD.01:08
intelikeyk  you can leave me a message if im not here  /msg mesgserv help01:09
intelikeyi'd like to know about the alternate      actually i'd like to have a copy   hehe01:09
jmarimoHie, I have downloaded firefox but trying to install it via sudo apt-get install firefox*.deb am getting this error message01:10
jmarimoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:10
jmarimoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:10
intelikeyerr is it nickserv01:10
Sanneintelikey: I like it better, maybe I'm too old...01:10
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intelikeybroke 50 yet ?01:11
Sanneintelikey: I can leave a message with nickserv? Cool. Will do.01:11
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, the command is sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb01:11
springmanso how can I play .WMV files on kaffeine? or should I just use VLC?01:11
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago i guess that depends on what you want to do  no?01:12
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Admiral_Chicagoif you want to install a deb that is how i do it01:12
Sanneoh. 50. Not yet :)01:12
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Admiral_Chicagoalso, make sure you aren't sudo and doing something else01:12
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drbreen_springman: use vlc. kaffeine and totem are utter crap.01:13
Tokeiitohow to make in Konversation 2lines of bars?01:13
intelikeyjmarimo one of three thing least likely first.  1 your sudo is broke 'not in admin group'   2, you didn't try it as root 'sudo it'   3 another package manager frontend is running 'close adept or the automatic updater'01:13
springmandrbreen: I have noticed...they are ok, but nowhere near VLC01:13
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springmanI used VLC in winblows..never on kubuntu..01:14
springmani am installing now01:14
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago yeah that works.  i enter it in mc and run the install script usually.01:14
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Sannedrbreen: "crap" is a bit extreme, wouldn't you think?01:15
intelikeyspringman i like vlc.   i watch movies with it in console    no X01:16
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jmarimoJust tried again to install firefox but there are lot of dependency error messages relating to package libatkl etc not installed, what else am i missing?01:16
larson9999vlc is nice01:16
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snowdrifthello, all01:17
snowdriftwhat is the command again to edit grub.lst01:17
snowdrifti cannot remember01:17
Catull_Macintelikey: i started now kubuntu from hdd and i?m about to dl through the actualisizer01:17
snowdrifti need to change the boot order01:17
springmanintelikey: thats just fxing g33ky01:17
Sannesnowdrift: well, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can edit it with any text editor, as sudo.01:18
intelikeyyou calling me a geek !     hey damnit you calling me a geek buddy !       </eddy murphy impression>01:18
Sannesnowdrift: remember to make a backup first01:18
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intelikeyi'm gumby!01:19
Catull_Macintelikey: i need an irc-client for kubuntu :)01:19
Admiral_ChicagoCatull_Mac, xchat01:20
intelikeykirc should be installed01:20
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intelikeyCatull_Mac kirc01:20
snowdriftsudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:20
snowdrifti dont seem to have gedit installed01:20
Sannesnowdrift: on kubuntu you could use kwrite or kate01:20
snowdrifthow long have you used linux?01:20
Sannesnowdrift: gedit is the default text editor for Gnome01:21
Sannesnowdrift: me?01:21
springmanGrrrr....Quanta+ just crashed and gabe me a SIGSEGV error...WTF does that mean!?01:21
snowdriftyes, sanne.01:21
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intelikeysnowdrift me ?01:21
Sannesnowdrift: hmmm *thinks* if my memory serves me correctly, I installed Debian Woody in November 2002.01:21
rohi, i need some help ...can't download amsn on konqueror01:22
snowdriftr u american?01:22
Catull_Macintelikey: i got kopete here... -.-01:22
intelikeyro use gaim01:22
Sannesnowdrift: I'm from Germany01:22
snowdriftim surprised you dont use suse01:22
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royeah but why does it bug when i try download it01:23
larson9999there was just now a tug of war between the cheerleaders of two local high school teams.  am i wrong but wouldn't it be better to lose and those have the lighter, 'hotter' cheerleaders?  forget for a minute that i'm too old to be thinking about high school chearleaders as hot.01:23
Sannesnowdrift: I liked the Debian philosophy better and stuck with Debian or Debian based distros ever since :)01:23
springmanintelikey: nice eddy murphey impression...now, here's my Charley Murphey Impression: </impersonates Charley Murphey> Grrr! Stop calling me Eddy Murphey's Brother!!! XD01:23
intelikeyCatull_Mac ok,  actually i've never used kopete   kirc used to be the default irc client in kde01:23
snowdriftit appears i edit the .lst correctly01:23
snowdriftbut i got a strange console error01:23
snowdriftabout a crash01:23
snowdriftthose things bother me about linux01:23
intelikeyspringman lol01:24
snowdriftkded "probably crashed"01:24
snowdriftwhat does that mean?01:24
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springmanKonversation is what loaded up on my kubuntu (kde) when I installed from the actual factual distro disk01:24
springmanOhh yes, I have a REAL kubuntu distro...fancy cover and all =P01:25
intelikeysnowdrift might mean you didn't run blah as root and it couldn't save the file ????    what command generated that error message?01:25
intelikeyCatull_Mac duty calls.   hope you have everything running smoothly.01:26
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intelikeyfellas' i gotta go.01:26
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Catull_Macintelikey: everything.. only got stuck to joinirc01:28
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springmanwhat is up?01:28
josh___well it sure is higher than windows hahahaha..................................i'm so lame :(01:29
springmanlinux and?01:29
springmanlinux aaaannnnd?01:29
josh___i dont know01:29
josh___i wanna get a mac just to put kubuntu on it01:29
springmansuper troopers? yes/no?01:30
moohow do i open a shell?01:30
springmanjosh___: wtfx the point of that?01:30
josh___it could be cool01:30
springmani think thats what you want01:30
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[GuS] alt+f4= run :)01:30
mooi mean a shell fr other users01:30
moothat they can connect with ssh01:31
josh___i wanna install xgl01:31
springmanjosh___: gotcha01:31
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springmansshd i think01:31
moocommand not found01:31
springmandid you apt-get or adept the sshd?01:31
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springmani dont know if kubuntu has it natevly01:31
[GuS] err *alt+f2 i mean01:31
Sannealt+F4=quit, alt+F2=run01:31
springmanwow..hooked on phonics =P01:31
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mooCould not find sshd package01:32
josh___in ut2004 i would tell ppl that to exit a car you can also type exit in the console01:33
josh___then i'd get into the server cuz it was full01:33
josh___hehe i'm so naughty01:33
springmanwow, thats uhmm...rude01:33
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springmanbut i know factually that n00bs fall for that shit every time =P01:33
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Catullwohooo... first time irc with kubuntu fresh installed :D01:34
springmanCatull: congrats01:35
moohow i the package named?01:35
Catull_Macso i can quit here :)01:35
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springmanfirst time on kubuntu?01:35
moosecond :P01:35
Catulljust installed it01:35
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springmanoh..wtf...are you in the channel on 2 machines?01:35
springmanneat...from a mac and a pc i guess01:35
moowhere i can get the sshd package?01:36
springmanmakes sense01:36
mooapt-get install ..?01:36
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springmanmoo: I was never very good with the cli installer..i always use adept..I know "its noob" but fxoff!01:36
Sannemoo: might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto01:37
josh___ok someone give me that link to the huge ubuntu wiki01:37
springmanlsh-server is what adpet pulled01:37
springmanor openssh-server01:38
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springmangotta run fella's wife wants sex XD01:38
Sannemoo: quick search for a package name: apt-cache search <searchterm>01:38
mooivbe installed now openssh-server01:39
josh___i'm scared01:39
josh___someone just opened my back door01:40
josh___guys what do i do01:40
josh___my parents left for the night01:40
mooneed a firewall? ^^01:41
mooclose the backdoor01:41
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Catullwell.. kopete is strange01:42
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josh___ok nobody is upstairs01:42
josh___i turned on the alarm01:42
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josh___ya anywho01:42
mooget a knife01:43
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Catull:( no fishbot i see....01:44
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benjamin1254i accedently installed the server part of kubuntu and id like to get the kde gui up and running how do i fix this issue01:45
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moohow i open an x terminal?01:46
Catull/server -m irc.quakenet.org01:46
Catulli guess i dont like jopete01:46
Catull-j +k01:47
mooi mean with ssh ^^01:47
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benjamin1254can anyone help?01:47
moosomeon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he so???????01:48
Sannebenjamin1254: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' might be all you need (please, pthers, correct me if I'm wrong)01:48
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moosomeon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he do??01:48
DFMthat is correct01:49
SanneDFM: me?01:49
mooDFM: me?01:50
DFMsorry yes01:50
DFMgot 3 machine running and happened to glance over and responded01:50
benjamin1254thank you sanne ill try that01:50
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SanneDFM: thanks :)01:50
Sannebenjamin1254: good luck01:50
mooDFM du you now i have to make it??01:50
benjamin1254thanks ill be back if it dont help01:51
mooor someone else? ^^01:51
Sannebenjamin1254: please do :)01:51
DFMyou shouldn't have to make anything01:51
moohow can he open a "shared screen"?01:51
DFMjust open a shell and enter sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:51
DFMenter you password01:51
mooi want to look what he do01:52
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SanneDFM: it's benjamin1254 who asked about that, not moo.01:52
mooSanne do you know?01:52
Sannemoo: unfortunately no, sorry01:52
DFMand select yes, when it is done kubuntu desktop will be an option upon log in.01:52
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DFMsanne, I figured that thaks01:53
mookubuntu-desktop is allready installed01:53
SanneDFM: ah, ok :)01:53
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DFMI really should stay out of the conversation when I am working with multi machines. sorry.01:53
SanneDFM: no problem :)01:54
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Agiosmoo, look at the bash history file perhaps01:56
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Agiosthere is also a way to enable logging of all bash commands01:56
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gnomefreakAgios: there is a bash history file that does it for you01:57
Agiosas I said01:58
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moobut i want see it live :D01:58
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Agiostail -f /home/user/.bash_history01:59
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Agiosonly way to get anymore live than that is to be looking over their shoulder02:00
mooin knoppix a friend connectet by shell and said i should type screen -Ux02:00
moothen i have seen what he typed live02:01
josh___ok how do i access wine?02:01
moowhere is the rober?02:01
Ash-Foxjosh___, the application is called 'wine'02:01
josh___do i just type in that command02:01
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Ash-FoxRun your executable with wine.02:02
josh___ah here we go02:02
josh___i did wine program now its doing something02:02
Timmmmjosh___: Go to shop, offer money, receive wine.02:02
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josh___ok someone do a remote desktop02:03
josh___help me out here02:03
otaku-sanjosh___: d00d wine is just basically a background thing...you type wine then the program you want to run to work it02:03
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josh___so can i install windows stuff on here?02:04
otaku-sanjosh___: yeah when I first got wine I was like you...I wanted to pull it up....you can't do that02:04
km0ti0nI'm following a howto of the wiki, I'm building a kernel for use with XEN from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuDapper after I amke the kernel I am supposed to run "sudo debchange" but it errors complaining about debain/changelog missing.  where can I get a copy of a changelog?02:04
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Ash-Foxwine installer.exe02:04
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Catullback again02:05
Ash-Foxjosh___, I suggest for wine help, you goto #WINEHQ though.02:05
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:05
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops02:06
otaku-sanjosh___: just go to a site with some windoze installation and down it....then unpack it and go to that path...then run wine <program> ....02:06
INeedHelpi wanna know if there is defragmnet tools for linux?02:06
wordI'm trying to run audacity but i get this error in command line -  PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDWR PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000 PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDONLY PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -1000002:06
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DFMneedhelp:no and you don't need it02:07
Ash-Foxword 'ls /dev/dsp' ?02:07
wordit's there :-/02:07
Ash-FoxIt's probably locked, something else using exclusive access to it.02:07
DFMneedhelp:let me see if I can find a link that I read the other day explaining why02:07
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otaku-sanAsh-Fox: why did you pull a botabuse?02:10
Sanneword: you can try turning off the sound server in kontrol center02:10
Ash-Foxotaku-san, looked to me like people were going to start requesting a lot of different things from ubotu in a moment, is all.02:11
Sanneword: it's in Sound & Multimedia, Sound System, Enable the sound system. Turn it off.02:11
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otaku-sanAsh-Fox: heheh I got you...*has seen that happen to much*02:12
Sanneword: this might disable your KDE system sounds, though, dunno.02:12
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Sanneword: yes? :)02:13
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DFMineedhelp:go here and read this http://www.linuxtoday.com/news/2006082201026OSHL02:13
wordSanne: no still same error after i disabled02:13
josh___i'm installing guild wars!!!02:14
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josh___lol @ windows, ur gone.02:14
Sanneword: just to be sure, log out of KDE and back in, let's see if it helps02:14
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otaku-sanjosh___: you were married to guild wars?  Is this the only thing stopping you from using Linux totally?02:16
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josh___well f.e.a.r. sure as hell aint gonna work02:16
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josh___does anyone have windows games on linux?02:17
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josh___oh no02:18
otaku-sanjosh___: lots of people do....but mostly they use Linux architeched ones...not just windoze based02:18
josh___ok umm02:18
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josh___one problem02:18
josh___does linux support direct x 9?02:18
josh___or will it run on opengl?02:19
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Sannejosh___: directx is proprietary, Linux can't support it. It supports OpenGL.02:20
josh___so will guild wars run?02:20
wordSanne: i figured out what it's doing..i'm trying to get it to record and run skype at the same time..it doesn't want more than one app using it at the same time i suppose..what's another way to record a convo in skype?02:20
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Sannejosh___: dunno, but maybe you'll find some answers here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/02:21
otaku-sanNormally programs will support OpenGL...02:21
otaku-sanjust check first....try to stop headaches before they happen02:21
Sanneword: ah, yes, by default you can't have two apps access the sound device at the same time. I should have thought about asking that, sorry. What's a convo?02:22
wordtalking back and forth skype is a voip app. convo = conversation02:22
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kazuyaQuick question (hopefully).  I'm trying to use Kontact but when I try to for instance add something to the todo list. I get a window asking me to choose from two Default KOrganizer Resource files. Which is annoying in but also it then makes two entries.02:23
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Sanneword: oh! Ok. There are some options, the best would be if both apps support the jack sound server, then you could route the output of one app into the input of the other through qjackctl (front end to jack). If they don't support jack, you can look into dmix, never used it though.02:24
kazuyaSo, is there a duplicate file I can delete or an entry I can edit or something, and of course where?02:24
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josh___guess what02:25
Sanneword: I'll send you what the bot has to say about sound, sec02:25
josh___i'm on guild wars02:25
Sanne!sound > word02:25
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otaku-sanjosh___: w00t!!!02:26
Ash-Foxjosh___, you may suffer issues with the lack of cursor, or the game crashing when you look over lion's arch. But those problems are going to be fixed soon in Wine hopefully.02:26
bl3ssingany drivers for mouse and keyboard?02:26
bl3ssingwhere man I find them?02:26
Ash-Foxbl3ssing, the support is built into the kernel.02:27
bl3ssingAsh-Fox, and you mean?02:27
Ash-FoxI mean the kernel.02:27
bl3ssingi need drivers for my new keyboard ... and mouse from logitech02:27
Ash-FoxJust plug them in, and they will work.02:27
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Sannejosh___: hmmm, those Guild Wars screenshots look fabulous. Is it really that pretty?02:29
otaku-sanThis isn't a problem....just something I want to know.  Ok I have a good connection...but when I use Konqueror.....it's sooooooooooo slow....but Firefox goes perfectly fast..why?02:29
wordSanne: none of it's suggestions seem relavent :-/02:31
Sanneword: oh, I'm sorry it doesn't help you. I guess the jack route isn't an option for you?02:31
josh___guild wars was buggy on linux02:31
josh___i coudn't correct my typing and there was no mouse02:32
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Martijn81I just installed a machine here with 6.06.1, and it looks like dist-upgrade on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main gives me a bloody load of unsigned packages. Errr, shouldn't those packages be signed?02:33
Sanneword: here's some info on jack: http://jackaudio.org/02:33
josh___this is wicked02:33
wordSanne: actually i found a howto on the wiki >< sorry about this02:33
josh___should i try f.e.a.r.02:33
Sanneword: oh, cool! Would you mind pointing me to this howto out of interest?02:34
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kazuya_Bah, conn dropped, no one responded while I was gone did they?02:36
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Martijn81kazuya_: nope02:37
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Martijn81kazuya_: oeps, might be yes, i confused the arrows :o02:38
vinicrihi everybody. qhat client p2p can i install with aptget on kubuntu02:38
rouzicsudo apt-get install amule02:39
rouzicsudo apt-get install kmldonkey02:39
rouzicsudo apt-get install xmule02:39
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vinicrithx. downloadig02:40
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Sannevinicri: search for packages by typing: apt-cache search <searchterm>02:40
wordSanne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto seems to be having the same problem though..02:43
Sanneword: thanks02:43
vinicriok. thx  Sanne. when checking libaries avaliable for source codes with ./configure, often i cant find the files needed with apt-get? what is the right way solve this?02:44
Sannevinicri: I always go to packages.ubuntu.com, type in the file name in "Search the contents of packages" to look for the package that provides that file. You can search for packages there also.02:45
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wordSanne: it's having a problem with more than one device on it as well.02:45
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Sanneword: reading it currently02:46
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otaku-sanahhhh ....*lots of mean words*.....why must it error on this.....hey does anyone know why I'm getting errors when I "make" a Gimp plugin....02:48
Sanneword: it said to quit skype before running skype-rec. Did you do that?02:48
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wordoutput from skype-rec -> /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy02:48
Sanneword: some other app is still accessing the sound device02:49
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wordbut if i startup skype alone it works02:49
de_uanhii everybodyyy02:49
worderrr....strike that..02:49
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mcrandelloanyone know what version of madwifi I need to get to get the same performance as the atheros drivers from dapper?02:51
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mcrandelloI tried with madwifi 0.9.0 and the latest CVS but the performace is abysmal compared02:52
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wordSanne: can't i just let more then one use it? ..and how do i find out what's using it currently?02:52
DFMhi de_uan02:53
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Sanneword: I'm trying to find out how to list what's using it... so far no success. You can't let more than one app use /dev/dsp, except with things like ja or dmix, as far as I know.ck02:54
Sannejack even02:54
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[Nige] anyone using keytouch?02:55
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wordSanne: it seems by putting aoss ./skype-rec instead it works alright :d02:59
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wordSanne: now i can get skype working by doing aoss skype but not skype...03:01
draikWOOHOO... I MIGHT BE A DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:02
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vinicrihow make kubuntu able to play mp3?03:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
mcrandellovinicri: ^^^^03:03
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Sanneword: I'm afraid this is going over my head... I only used jack so far for multi audio apps.03:03
wordi really need to know what else is using it  Sanne any ideas?03:04
vinicri<mcrandello> ?03:04
Sanneword: maybe the kde sound server is still up? It's called arts or artsd, I think.03:04
[Nige] i have a really dumb questions, how do i bind my win key to the start menu?03:05
mcrandellovinicri: check out the links above there from ubotu03:05
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Agios[Nige] : try Alt-F1, you can change the bindings with kcontrol03:13
vinicricani disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to imporve de performace?03:14
robinIs kubuntu nicer than ubuntu?03:14
Sannerobin: completely a matter of preference03:15
robinwhich  has the best performance03:15
robinI can't get dvd to work under Ubuntu :(03:15
Sannerobin: for me, KDE is snappier than Gnome, but that might not be for everybody.03:16
vinicrikde runt a little fast here03:16
vinicrican i disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to improve de performace?03:16
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Sannerobin: you might have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA03:17
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aseigovinicri: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips03:18
mcrandellovinicri: kcontrol, click on the + next to Apperance and themes and then hit "Style"03:18
mcrandelloyou can adjust or completely disable gui effects there03:18
mcrandellowhich should help a little03:18
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Sannevinicri: I dunno, usually when you have hardware where Kde or Gnome is a bit much, some lighter desktops are recommended, like Xfce, or even light window managers like fluxbox or openbox. You won't have all the nice config tools, though.03:19
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mcrandelloalso you can drill into "Desktop" and remove some of those multiple desktops if you don't use them, not sure if it makes that much of a dif03:19
jojo930hi all03:19
jojo930im french03:19
jojo930HI !03:19
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mcrandellovinicri: "Window behavior" under the Desktop entry also has some stuff which might help, "Display content in moving Windows" etc.03:20
wordhow do you find out what app is using /dev/dsp?03:20
BIOMANlol i dont speak english03:20
Ash-FoxWhat is dpkg-reconfigure command for reconfiguring xorg's fonts?03:20
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BIOMANya un francais ?03:20
mcrandelloparlay view frond say?03:20
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cutepinkbunnieslol mcrandello03:20
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:20
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mcrandellocutepinkbunnies: I have a portuguese phrasebook that actually has all the phrases captioned with english words like that03:21
mcrandelloit works03:21
cutepinkbunniesyeah that's kinda funny03:21
cutepinkbunniesits definetely the way it sounds kind of03:22
cutepinkbunniesto a frenchman it would sound really hacked03:22
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wordsoooo...how do you find out the app using a device? such as /dev/dsp?03:23
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Sanneword: I just found, try: fuser /dev/dsp03:24
Agiostry ldof /dev/dsp03:25
mcrandellotry lsof|grep dsp03:25
Agiosdunno if it works for devices or not03:25
mcrandelloI see some stuff in lsof that references /dev/pts so it might work03:25
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mcrandellois there any way to figure out which version of madwifi came with my distro?03:26
ryanakcaSanne: what's that for?03:26
mcrandellorunning strings on ath_pci found srcversion=532488E7A58A464B250A176 but I don't think that's helpful03:28
Agiosmcrandello: dpgk -l mad*03:28
Sanneryanakca: type 'man fuser': fuser - identify processes using files or sockets03:28
mcrandelloit comes in linux-restricted-modules-$KERNNAME03:28
mcrandelloand the package doesn't list versions03:29
Sannemcrandello: is it a kernel module?03:29
mcrandellobut not GPL afaik which is why it comes with the restricted package03:30
Sannemcrandello: try with 'modinfo modulename'03:30
Sannemcrandello: or listen to Agios03:30
mcrandellocomes up with the same version 532488E7A58A464B250A17603:30
mcrandellothe old version I think used 0.9.something for their version numbers and the ng version is using dates03:31
Agiosonly other place I know to look would be in the changelog in /usr/share/doc/linux-restricted-moduels*03:31
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mcrandelloAgios: ooh good call I'll check that03:32
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Malice007? anyone have a link to install shockwave and flash?03:34
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Agiosthere is no shockwave for linux03:34
Agiosyou can install the flash plugin though03:34
mcrandellookay no version numbers that I can see :(03:35
Agiosflashplugin-nonfree  is what I'm using03:35
mcrandellothey updated to the current cvs around 2.6.1003:35
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josh__is it possible to use wine to install drivers?03:35
kazuyaBeen awhile, try again.  I'm haveing a problem in Kontact where if I for instance try to add a new todo item it says I have two Default KOrganizer Resource files and then makes two copies of the item.  Is there a file I need to delete or modify or what?03:36
mcrandellojosh__: afaik no because everything is abstracted through the linux drivers03:36
larson9999josh__: i don't think so03:36
josh__well i just did :P03:36
mcrandellojosh__: ndiswrapper?03:36
mcrandellothat might be different03:37
mcrandellosome wireless card drivers use the binary blob from the windows drivers03:37
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Agiosmcrandello: try this: apt-cache showpkg linux-restricted-modules-2.6.whatever03:37
Agiosthat shows the version of the nvidia driver03:38
Agiosand some firmware version of something03:38
Agiosmight show what you are looking for as well03:39
mcrandelloyeah nothing :(03:39
mcrandellogood tip though, I've been rooting around in adept trying to get the info03:39
Agioswell, one last stab at it. copy the modue somewhere and open it with khexedit. The version may be imbedded in the code and show up as text.03:40
mcrandellostrings only found that super long number thing03:41
mcrandellowhich doesn't look like anything that madwifi released ;_;03:41
josh__i'm gonna try rollercoaster tycoon 203:41
Sannenight all03:41
Agiosoh yeah, forgot you checked that03:41
mcrandellojust asked in #ubuntu-devel, worst that can happen is I get kicked for a support Q :)03:42
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Agiosthey should make that kind of information available IMO03:44
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Agioswb Jucato03:44
mcrandelloAgios: just got a reply: apt-get source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-68603:44
Jucatoehehe thanks!03:44
mcrandellothe source is as good as knowing which one is in there :)03:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:45
Agiosmcrandello: heh, I didn't think of that one03:45
JucatoI was trying out PCLinuxOS MiniME and XChat when I was here a while ago :-D03:45
Agiosmcrandello: read the apt-get man page on the source section.03:46
Agiosyou may not get the source for the binary you are running. You probably will though.03:47
oomphpclinux not bad03:47
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Jucatooomph: yeah. not bad at all03:49
oomphi convertered a few over03:50
JucatoI'm interested with it since it currently has one of the smallest KDE distros (MiniME and Junios)03:50
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a|i3Nhelp. Ark crashed. It won't run now. i'm trying to extract a file an i kinda need it lol03:52
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a|i3N"ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed." - anybody have any ideas how i can fix it?03:54
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LaserJockhow do you copy in konsole?04:00
Jucatohighlight with the mouse and right-click04:00
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LaserJockthere isn't a keyboard shortcut, like paste?04:00
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soulridershift insert04:01
soulriderthat will paste04:01
Jucatoyou can configure Konsole to use something like Ctrl+Ins (or Ctrl+C, but that's already set for Cancel)04:01
timothyIn dsl live cd's sh files just run.  in kubuntu I have to type sh first, how do i change this?04:01
Jucatobut highlighting the text without a mouse... I don't know04:01
soulriderctrl + ins04:01
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ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.04:02
LaserJockseems weird to have a shortcut for paste but not for copy04:02
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX04:02
JucatoLaserJock: ehehe! kinda, but probably because there's more pasting in Konsole than copying :-D04:02
timothyjucato: are you saying that no one ever has to copy to ask for help?04:04
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Jucatotimothy: nope. I said there was more pasting being done. I didn't say that no one has to copy04:04
LaserJockwow, lots of people in this channel, way cool04:04
timothyI always just use shift insert04:05
LaserJockshift insert pastes04:05
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Martijn81hmm, i installed flash and java at the same time, and that did the sun license agreement freeze for some reason. Now when i start adept, sun is "upgradable" to the same package version. So i do that, and again, it freezes at ok (focus and enter on ok doesn't work)04:06
timothyso then you don't need the shortkut04:06
Jucatotimothy: he was looking for a shortcut to Copy04:07
JucatoMartijn81: what did you use to install java?04:07
Martijn81jucato: adept04:07
flaccidcan vnc or freenx do access to display :004:07
LaserJockflaccid: I think x11vnc does that04:07
JucatoMartijn81: ok... Adept can't handle installing Java :-D04:07
JucatoMartijn81: go to Konsole and type in "sudo dpkg --configure -a"04:08
Martijn81jucato: already did04:08
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LaserJockpoor adept, sometimes it seems not quite ... adept ;-)04:08
mcrandelloiirc I got it to install by hitting "details" when it looked like it stalled and got a console04:08
timothyjucato: why doesn't he create one?04:08
mcrandelloit was just hanging out there waiting for approval on the Sun license04:08
mcrandello(in adept)04:09
LaserJocktimothy: I'm just talking about defaults. It seemed odd to me that there was a shortcut for paste but not for copy04:09
Jucatotimothy: hehehe that's what I was telling him. there's no keyboard shortcut for Copy by default04:09
josh__click details04:09
LaserJocktimothy: I can certainly create one it just seems a little odd (smacks of bugginess if I didn't know better)04:09
Martijn81jucato: ok, konsole apt-get upgrade worked finally :)04:09
JucatoMartijn81: glad to hear that04:10
josh__guild wars was the only game that worked in wine04:11
josh__f.e.a.r. or rollercoaster tycoon didn't even work04:11
Jucatoguild wars works in wine?!?!!?04:11
flaccidLaserJock: x11vnc available by apt-get sources?04:12
LaserJockflaccid: yeah, it's in the Universe repo04:12
ubotux11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-5 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 820 kB04:12
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:13
Hawkwindsoulrider: Got a second for a pm d00d ?04:13
Jucatohi Hawkwind!04:14
HawkwindJucato: Good evening :)04:14
soulrideri wanted to talk to you actually04:14
JucatoHawkwind: that "channel" is still up :-D04:15
flaccidpossible to run x11vnc as service, or should i script to run it on start?04:16
a|i3Ncan ya'll recommend any good 1st person shooters similar to wolfenstein that'll run on a slower machine? (it's a p3 500 w/128mb and a crappy tnt video card)04:16
LaserJockflaccid: hmm, I'm not sure04:16
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LaserJockarg, how do I set general keyboard shortcuts?04:17
LaserJockI haven't used KDE for a year or so, you can probably tell ;-)04:17
JucatoLaserJock: for Konsole? Settings > Configure Shortcuts04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
LaserJockJucato: no, for general stuff. I wonder how to switch desktops04:20
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JucatoLaserJock: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts04:22
LaserJockah Regional, that's right. You wouldn't want to put it in with Keyboard ;-)04:22
Jucatoehehe "Keyboard" there is more for the Keyboard device settings. but for accessibility and regional settings...04:23
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mxanyone care to help me get some drivers for my radeon 9550 card running?04:30
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mxah, sorry.. i seem to have found instructions04:32
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lmosherHow do I check what version of a file I have (on command line)04:36
Agiosyou mean a package?04:37
Jucatolmosher: apt-cache show <package name> ??04:37
Agiosor dpkg -l name*04:37
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Silver_AdeptEvening (localtime) everyone.04:39
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michelle_My login is saying that no sound cards are found and that kmix cannot be found, but when other people login the sound works fine.  Any thoughts on why?04:41
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Silver_AdeptDoes anyone know of a good, simple, working way to get my microphone to record? It's a generico sort of microphone hooked up to a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 - I either get an "improperly configured" error, or when I try to test it, ALSA claims the device is busy.04:44
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Agiosmichelle_: type groups at a command prompt and make sure you are part of the audio group04:45
lmosherI'm trying to compile something and automake1.6 is a dependency however "sudo apt-get automake1.6" reports: "Package automake1.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package." help?04:45
Agiosapt-get install automake=1.6    try that04:47
Silver_AdeptCan you install automake1.6 from (apt/synaptic/adept)?04:47
michelle_Agios: I'll try that in just a second.  I typed "lspci -v" and it says for many of the components "Capabilities: <available only to root>".  What does that mean?04:47
ubotudekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB04:47
michelle_Agios: How do I know if I'm part of the audio group?04:48
Agiosit means only the super user can use those capabilities04:48
Ash-FoxHow does one access dekorator?04:48
Agiostype groups04:48
Silver_AdeptAsh-Fox: If not installed, install it using apt/synaptic/adept/whatever.04:48
JucatoAsh-Fox: the version of deKorator in the repositories is quite outdated. but you access it through System Settings > Appearance > Window Decoration04:49
Ash-FoxSilver_Adept, it is installed, how to I start it?04:49
lmosherAgios, Silver_Adept I was using tab completion. automake1.6 is in the list04:49
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michelle_Agios:  Does that mean that I have to be a super user to use sound?  Is it possible to be upgraded to a super user or is there only one super user in Linux?04:49
Ash-FoxJucato, thankyou :)04:49
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Agiosmichelle_: groups04:50
Silver_Adeptmichelle_: Using the group manager, you can assign yourself to various groups.04:50
Jucatomichelle_: System Settings > Users and Groups04:50
michelle_Agios: I typed groups and all I saw was "michelle"  Does this mean I'm not part of the audio group?04:50
Jucatothen check if your user is part of (includes in its list) the "audio" group04:51
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Silver_Adept(Any help on the microphone-SBLive problem?)04:52
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flaccidcounter strike on linux/ubuntu ? possible?04:52
josh__use wine04:52
flaccidi'll try04:53
josh__i used wine to install guild wars and f.e.a.r.04:53
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Silver_AdeptWow. Wine hasn't done much for me but sit there and look pretty.04:53
mxwine works with fear?04:53
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larson9999josh__: they go ok?  the newer versions of wine do pretty good by me.04:53
mxnice.. i have a copy of fear mp04:54
JucatoIt pretty much seats there when I don't use it...04:54
larson9999but sometimes you don't know you have problems until you get pretty far into a game04:54
josh__well anyways04:54
josh__i need help04:54
larson9999i use it for dvdshrink :)04:54
nrdbis there a channel for edubuntu ?04:54
michelle_jucato:  I think I have to be an administrator to add groups.04:54
Agiosmichelle_: yes, you are not a member of the audio group which you need to be for sound.04:54
LaserJocknrdb: yes04:54
Jucatomichelle_: yep.04:55
Hawkwindlarson9999: Why not use the linux version of dvdshrink instead04:55
nrdbok, what is it?04:55
LaserJocknrdb: #edubuntu crazily enough04:55
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Jucatomichelle_: I'm presuming that the user that's having sound problems its the user that was created during installation?04:55
Ashexwhat's that fantastic command to reconfigure X?04:55
HawkwindAshex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:55
AshexI upgraded my video card and it's wiggin' out on me04:55
Ashexthanks Hawkwind04:55
larson9999Hawkwind: i didn't konw there was one.  shows how dumb i am04:55
Agiosmichelle_: there are a number of groups you will want to be a member of besides audio.04:55
Hawkwindlarson9999: Written by ozzzy in #LFD nonetheless :P04:55
Ash-FoxJucato, God, 0.2, olde indeed.04:56
nrdbfirst time I check noone was there, maybe I spelt it wrong.04:56
larson9999Hawkwind: how long has that been out?04:56
Hawkwindlarson9999: 2+ years now maybe04:56
Agioscdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev would be a good start04:56
larson9999Hawkwind: lol.04:56
Hawkwindlarson9999: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/04:57
Hawkwindlarson9999: You'll see mine and Agios' nick both on the site as testers :P04:57
larson9999Hawkwind: oh.  that's not the same app.  for a minute i thought it was the same app but a linux version.   but i will give it a go.04:58
Hawkwindlarson9999: It's not much different, honestly04:58
Hawkwindlarson9999: It works the same as the Windows version04:59
josh__what kind of error is this?04:59
larson9999Hawkwind: i trust you it's good.  you haven't steered me wrong yet04:59
josh__*/home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c/install: line 7: ./version: No such file or directory04:59
mxhow do i tell which xorg driver i'm using?04:59
michelle_Jucato:  Thanks for the help.  I'm login' out so the sys admin can add me to the audio group.04:59
Jucatomichelle_: you can also thank Agios. I just butted in :-D04:59
larson9999Hawkwind: does the rpm do ok with alien or should i compile?05:00
Hawkwindlarson9999: You'll probably want to compile it.  Not sure what deps you'll need as I've yet to use it on Kubuntu05:00
larson9999Hawkwind: good. i got a new burner i need to test out05:01
Hawkwindlarson9999: You can also use k9copy which is a fantastic app as well.  I use it all the time too05:01
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Hawkwindlarson9999: k9copy is available via apt-get05:01
larson9999Hawkwind: i use k9copy but didn't have as much success with it as with dvdshrink05:01
Agiosk9copy is what I use most of the time anymore05:02
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Agiosif it fails then I try dvdshrink05:02
Agiosif dvdshrink fails I give up05:02
Hawkwindlarson9999: Strange.  I've copied probably 350+ DVD's with k9copy and have had less than 5 fail.  Mainly due to too many scratches on the original05:02
AgiosHawkwind: hair gel :)05:03
HawkwindAgios: Hah!  Same here. I figure by that time nothing will work and I don't need the DVD that bad05:03
HawkwindAgios: I've gotten 2 or 3 to work using hair gel actually.  Nifty little trick05:03
Silver_AdeptHair gel? Okay, I'm curious now.05:03
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HawkwindI do also use the Windows version of dvdshrink on Liz's computer as I copy probably 20+ DVD's a week :)05:04
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Agioscd/dvd scratches can often be overcome temporarily by applying hair gel to them05:04
larson9999Hawkwind: maybe i dorked something up but out of the first few i tried i couldn't shrink 3 with k9copy but could with dvdshrink.  that was a while back05:04
Silver_Adept...this makes a surprising amount of sense.05:04
Silver_AdeptCan either of you gurus help me with my microphone problem?05:04
Silver_Adept(Well, maybe more a sound system problem...)05:05
AgiosSilver_Adept: I don't even have a mic :) But check your mixer settings.05:05
michelle_Jucato: That seemed to work for every thing except flash in swiftfox.  I tried a bunch of the forum fixes before I was in the audio group.  Do I need to try them again now that I am in the audio group?05:05
josh__can someone do a remote desktop plz?05:05
Silver_AdeptAgios: Mixer's good and loud. When I blow into the mic, I can hear it.05:05
josh__someone do a remote desktop.05:07
josh__ive been trying this for days05:07
Silver_AdeptI just can't seem to be able to get any sound recording/Skype program to recognize it. Which is weird, because Teamspeak worked fine with it.05:07
Jucatomichelle_: probably. but Flash in Linux really is a hit and miss sort of thing...05:07
AgiosSilver_Adept: then what problem are you having?05:07
larson9999flash + ff + wine does pretty good for the flash that doesn't support linux05:07
larson9999if you must hit a site that doesn't support linux05:07
Agiosmichelle_: shut down the browser and try again. firefox often loses sound for me and that usually fixes it.05:07
josh__*almost crying in fustration*05:08
AgiosSilver_Adept: make sure the ac97 slider is all the way up.05:08
josh__:O:O u got realtek drivers installed??????05:08
michelle_Jucato: If you are still here.  I tried the aoss fix and now everything seems to be working fine.  Thanks again for the help.05:08
Agiosand play with the switch settings05:08
josh__i'm trying to do it right now, help me.05:08
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Jucatomichelle_: you better thank Agios too :-D05:09
Silver_Adept...okay. Let me see if that works. - Although the problem is that often, ALSA complains of being busy with the input device.05:09
mxanyone know a 3d benchmarking program for kubuntu?05:09
AgiosJucato: I probably made her mad :)05:09
Jucatoehehe... sorry bout that Agios :-D05:10
larson9999well, agios is a bad word05:10
Silver_AdeptSorry, nothing doing on that, Agios. No sound cometh out. Error is: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."05:10
Jucatoreally? what does "agios" mean?05:11
josh__i'm freaking out here!05:11
larson9999agios means "you rock"05:12
larson9999Hawkwind: it's installing now.  while is says it's installing is it really compiling?05:13
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josh__who just installed realtek drivers???05:14
AgiosJucato: it's a Greek word meaning saint or holy.05:15
larson9999i was pretty close05:15
JucatoI hope you guys are not pulling my leg eheheh05:15
AgiosLOL, I'm being truthful05:15
josh__silver_adept are u here?05:16
Agiosit's actually `agios and pronounced with an h sound like hagios05:16
Jucatooooh ok05:16
Silver_AdeptWe exist. We do not know how to remote into your computer. Perhaps if you explained your problem, you could fine a solution.05:16
josh__i'm trying to install realtek drivers.05:16
josh__it seems like you have done it before05:17
Silver_AdeptHrm? I have not installed any Realtek drivers.05:18
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josh__ok well can you help05:18
josh__it says for automatic install type ./install'05:18
josh__i'm guessing the . is the stuff before that05:18
josh__it keeps saying no file or directory05:18
Silver_AdeptAre you in the directory where the driver files are?05:19
josh__i unzipped it05:19
Agiosjosh__: make sure you are in the directory where the files are. There should be a file called install in that directory.05:19
Agiosthen from there tyoe ./install05:19
josh__type ./install where?05:19
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Agiosyou unzipped the archive and it created a directory05:19
Agioscd into that directory05:20
Silver_AdeptIn the terminal/console window.05:20
Agiosls to see if there is a file named "install"05:20
Agiosthere should be05:20
josh__ok so i should type cd /home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c05:20
AgiosI suppose05:21
Silver_AdeptLinux can be like that.05:21
josh__oh wait05:21
josh__make didn't work05:21
josh__oh isn't there some package i need installed in order to use make?05:21
josh__which one is it05:22
Agiossudo apt-get install build-essencial05:22
Mr_Flibblejosh__: What audio chip do you have?  (I just joined, missed the start)05:22
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r3sil3Hellooo guys05:22
josh__i have realtek hd audio05:22
Agiosyeah, pardon my spelling05:22
r3sil3can someone help me install a program? im new to this05:22
Agiosapt-get install build-essential05:23
Agiosr3sil3: what program?05:23
r3sil3I am trying to install KMLDonkey05:23
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josh__ok then it should work05:23
r3sil3i downloaded the file using ark05:23
Mr_Flibblejosh__: Ya, thats its generic name, but whats the chip?05:23
josh__no clue lol05:23
r3sil3what motherboard josh?05:23
Mr_Flibblejosh__: does lspci give any hint at the audio?05:24
josh__if u want to look it up i have a gigabyte ga-k8n51gmf-905:24
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r3sil3so its an amd machine05:24
r3sil3its probably realtek ac'9705:24
r3sil3nothign special05:24
josh__no its not ac'9705:24
r3sil3k8n51 is onboard geforce 6100 right?05:24
josh__but with nforce 43005:24
r3sil3yes, its regular realtek bro05:24
r3sil3i have that board05:24
josh__k wiat05:25
r3sil3yea its 430 and 615005:25
josh__430 and 610005:25
Agiosr3sil3: sudo apt-get install kmldonkey05:25
josh__gigabyte mixed it up05:25
r3sil3thanks agios05:25
josh__ya its wierd05:25
r3sil3yea they did05:25
crimsunac'97 is a spec. HDA is the updated version of said spec. There's usually just one DSP for that spec's implementation, but there are a variety of codecs for both ac'97 and HDA.05:25
r3sil3r3sil3@r3sil3-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kmldonkey05:25
r3sil3Reading package lists... Done05:25
r3sil3Building dependency tree... Done05:25
r3sil3E: Couldn't find package kmldonkey05:25
r3sil3thats what i get Agios05:25
r3sil3when i do that05:25
r3sil3ohio here05:26
r3sil3have kids05:26
r3sil3or "kid"05:26
Silver_AdeptMr_Fibble: Are you good at troubleshooting audio difficulties?05:26
Agiosr3sil3: you need to add some repositories. I find it.05:26
r3sil3thank you agios05:26
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Agiosjessica__: there are a lot of people from Florida. Just not here :)05:27
r3sil3I love this 4 desktop thing05:27
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josh__here is my mobo05:27
crimsunjosh__: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat . What's the issue anyhow?05:27
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r3sil3Realtek Azalia HD05:29
r3sil3thats waht you have05:29
josh__so many errors flying through05:29
r3sil3i dono past that05:29
r3sil3nice board05:29
crimsun"Azalia" is the codename for the HDA spec.05:29
r3sil3i have a geforce 6100-m7 biostar05:29
josh__oh i should run as root lmfao05:29
r3sil3on a sempron05:29
r3sil3its a piece05:29
crimsunyou don't need to be root.05:29
josh__i have that board with a 3000+05:29
r3sil3but my Core 2 Duo 6600 is coming monday :)05:29
r3sil3along wtih an Asus DH Deluxe05:30
josh__clocked to 2.5ghz *puts on sunglasses*05:30
r3sil3and 2GB of Team Memory05:30
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r3sil3ok i have a question05:31
r3sil3When i type05:31
r3sil3sudo apt-get install "program05:31
r3sil3I get05:31
r3sil3Reading package lists... Done05:31
r3sil3Building dependency tree... Done05:31
r3sil3E: Couldn't find package kmldonkey05:31
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r3sil3what repositories have to be changeed?05:31
crimsun!info kmldonkey05:31
ubotukmldonkey: KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 885 kB, installed size 3036 kB05:31
crimsun>> In component universe05:31
josh__i got a couple things that said command not found during the installation05:31
josh__does that mean it didn't install right?05:32
crimsunjosh__: did you type ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''?05:32
r3sil3im confused05:32
Agiosr3sil3: flood coming05:32
josh__why would i type that05:33
josh__what's it for05:33
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Agiosthat's my sources list05:33
crimsunjosh__: it tells you the HDA codec used05:33
crimsunjosh__: different HDA codecs have different troubleshooting steps05:33
josh__realtek ALC88005:33
josh__does that mean the driver is installed???05:34
r3sil3im SO CONFUSED agios05:34
crimsunjosh__: are you running the latest Ubuntu kernel?05:34
r3sil3ill show you mine05:34
josh__umm pretty sure05:34
josh__how do i check05:34
crimsunjosh__: _a_ driver is installed, yes.05:34
josh__how do i check what kernel version i have05:34
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crimsunjosh__: ``dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk "{ print $3 }"''05:34
r3sil3IM ON KUBUNTU05:35
Agiosr3sil3: replace /etc/apt/sources.list with that. The do apt-get update05:35
r3sil3THE NEWEST05:35
josh__nothing happened.05:35
Agiosbackup your current sources.list05:35
unix_infidelr3sil3: i see you bought one of the keyboards with caps lock.05:35
josh__k should i just reboot?05:35
unix_infidelnice job buddy.05:35
r3sil3unix...........my apologies.05:35
crimsunjosh__: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'05:35
larson9999someone told me they a rumor caps lock was going away.  that's suck05:35
r3sil3iv'e been screwing with this damn OS for 2 weeks now05:35
dr_willislarson9999,  tht was a slashdot RANT.05:35
r3sil3just  NOW got my mp3's playijng05:36
josh__all that came up was >05:36
josh__what now?05:36
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larson9999crimsun: don't print $3 bills.  everyone will no they're fake05:36
unix_infideldr_willis: i think you should have to take an iq test before you are allowed a keyboard with a caps lock feature.05:36
crimsunjosh__: press ctrl+c. You're not copying and pasting the command I'm giving you.05:36
josh__ya i did05:36
crimsunyou need it verbatim05:36
crimsundon't omit anything:  dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'05:37
josh__oh i missed one of the '05:37
dr_willis :)05:37
josh__all that came up was 2.6.15-26.4605:37
larson9999more than that05:37
josh__so is my kernel good?05:37
crimsungood, so you're running the latest available kernel. I've submitted additional changes into the upcoming Ubuntu kernel.05:38
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crimsunThe next release should fix your issue.05:38
josh__ok well the driver is installed, reboot?05:38
josh__well i'm pretty sure the driver is installed05:38
josh__i'll reboot now05:38
crimsunit's not going to help unless you compile 1.0.12 from alsa-project.05:38
josh__how do i do that then05:39
josh__or are u still talking to me05:39
Silver_AdeptWould I need to compile the latest alsa-project devices as well to make my microphone actually record?05:39
josh__ooh ok05:39
crimsunthere's an excellent how-to for compiling sound drivers on the ubuntu forum05:39
josh__brb everyone05:39
crimsunSilver_Adept: depends which codec you use05:39
Silver_AdeptCodec, crimsun? I don't understand.05:40
crimsunSilver_Adept: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''05:40
crimsun(what's the output?)05:40
Silver_AdeptOutput: Mixers: 0: SigmaTel STAC9708,1105:40
larson9999Hawkwind: dvdshrink is just sitting there saying it's installing files.  been a long time now05:41
crimsunSilver_Adept: which dsp is used, the emu10k?05:41
Silver_AdeptShould be. It's an SBLive! 5.105:41
crimsunthen recording should work just fine. Pastebin your ``amixer''.05:41
Silver_AdeptPastebin? Is that a specific command?05:41
crimsunsee the topic.05:41
crimsun Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:42
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Silver_Adepthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21685 , if you please.05:43
josh__ok it said on boot05:43
josh__xine was unable to load audio drivers05:43
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crimsunSilver_Adept: your Capture control element is muted.05:45
crimsunyou should be able to use Kmix to fix that05:45
Silver_AdeptEven with Capture unmuted, sound does not record.05:45
josh__ok why is this so effing retarted05:45
crimsunfrom what, the mic? Did you unmute the mic boost?05:45
Silver_AdeptAttempts to use Sound Recorder and Skype have both failed in silence.05:46
Silver_AdeptMuted mic boost?05:46
crimsundid you toggle the mic input?05:46
crimsunyou have two mic inputs05:46
Silver_AdeptTwo inputs?05:46
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crimsunSimple mixer control 'Mic Select',005:46
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crimsunI presume you've followed the emu10k mixer controls page under 'Alsa Drivers' on the alsa wiki?05:47
Silver_AdeptIf I change the "Mic Select" option in KMix, the microphone does not give me ambient noise.05:47
whytxtacythanks fa the help got it up an runnin05:47
Silver_AdeptCrimsun - perusing said document.05:48
whytxtacycan anyone tell me if i can download yahoo messanger on this prog05:48
crimsunwhytxtacy: does Kopete not suffice? (Yes, you can, but it doesn't integrate well if at all.)05:48
dr_williswhytxtacy,  GAIM is a good alternative for that.05:49
Silver_AdeptCrimsun - I do not know if I have the right document. Do you have a handy link?05:49
whytxtacyok thanks05:49
whytxtacyim sorry im new to this program05:49
crimsunSilver_Adept: see the header section of http://alsa.opensrc.org/emu10k105:50
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dr_willisyou mean 'operating system' :)05:50
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glickhey doesnt kwlanmanager allow for the use of WPA?05:50
glickit says wep but i dont use wep05:50
glicki use wpa05:51
larson9999Agios: that xdvdshrink install script is hanging on copying the testfifo file to /usr/bin.  what the heck is testfifo?05:51
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glickkde keeps frustrating me05:52
glickit looks pretty but its unstable05:52
Agiosa test script to test his fifo. he actually uses 2 I think.05:52
glickfor me at least05:52
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Agioslarson9999: but it's just trying to copy the script, not run it :)05:52
dr_willisi cant recall any problems with kde.05:52
dr_willisat least not in the last year or so. :P05:52
Silver_AdeptCrimsun - many apologies, but I do not understand the document at all...05:52
Agioslarson9999: why is it hanging?05:52
glickits very buggy05:53
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dionyzizimg src="http://a.deviantart.com/avatars/d/i/dionyziz.gif"05:53
crimsunjosh__: do you need me to walk you through installing 1.0.12?05:53
dionyziz<img src="" />05:53
dr_willisvery buggy... and i havent noticed any.. oh well.05:53
crimsunSilver_Adept: the sblive mixer controls pages should explain what each enumerated control element does05:53
dr_willislife is buggy. :P05:53
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josh__i'm dying here05:54
larson9999Agios: i don't know.  it was just hanging on the copy part so a did the copy manually.  all the files copied over but when i tried to copy testfifo it just hung.  it has a p where the d usually is in an ls -l.  what does that mean?05:54
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josh__i have no sound now05:54
crimsunjosh__: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential05:54
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glickdoes anyone know how in kde i can connect to a wpa protected wireless netowkr05:54
Agiosmeans it's a pipe, jsut ignore it. It shouldn't have been art of the package.05:54
glickkwlanassistant isnt hellpng me05:55
guillermohi, i new here, i have a problem with python on ubuntu, i try these len('n') and it return 305:55
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crimsunjosh__: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz205:55
larson9999Agios: ok.  i just removed it and the install went ok.  we'll see if it works!05:55
crimsunZamboulie: please keep it in here.05:55
Agioslarson9999: great05:55
Zambouliewhy cna't we just pm?05:56
dr_willisPM causes cooties.05:56
Zamboulieur the doctor05:56
baojihey folks... I'm trying out kubuntu for the first time; the installer hangs, no matter what I do, at step 6 (final partition before install)05:56
Zamboulieok its installed05:56
guillermohi, i am new here, i have a problem with python in ubuntu05:57
Silver_AdeptCrimsun - having a slightly more difficult problem than that as well. My two standard errors when attempting to record sound are "ALSA is busy" or "Mixer Settings are incorrect."05:57
crimsunZamboulie: did you download the 1.0.12 tarball, too?05:58
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Zamboulieumm i don't think so05:58
crimsunSilver_Adept: that shouldn't happen with the emu10ks. Which apps are throwing those errors05:58
Zambouliewhat's this all for anyways05:58
crimsunZamboulie: scroll up; I gave you the command05:58
Zamboulieoh ya05:58
crimsunZamboulie: you need a newer sound driver, so you have to compile it05:58
Zambouliei did that command05:58
Zambouliei thought that was the kernel one05:58
Zambouliewhich i already did05:58
Zamboulieanyways now what05:59
crimsunZamboulie: the one from realtek or the one from alsa-project?05:59
Silver_AdeptThe "Incorrent configuration error" is KDE's Sound Recorder. Which, naturally, seems to be behaving, although not actually recording any sound.05:59
Zamboulieuhh i got the realtek driver05:59
Silver_AdeptThe "busy" is gstreamer-properties.05:59
crimsunZamboulie: that's the prelim version of the alsa one.05:59
Zamboulieso now what05:59
Silver_Adept...which at the moment, also appears to be behaving.06:00
crimsunSilver_Adept: shouldn't be busy; you should be able to execute multiple concurrent aplays and arecords just fine06:00
Silver_AdeptCrimsun - yeah, they're behaving right now. But I'm still getting nothing on playback.06:00
guillermoHI, i need help!!!06:00
crimsunZamboulie: slow down - I can only type so fast, particularly when addressing multiple people06:00
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baojianyone know how the kubuntu installation works? I'm happy to set up partitioning myself if someone can suggest a command to run after I've done so...06:01
crimsunZamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.1206:01
SpAwNbaoji, are u installing off the live version?06:01
Zamboulieno such file or directory06:01
baojiSpAwN: yes, I am06:01
SpAwNbaoji, thats the problem06:01
crimsunZamboulie: I thought you said you downloaded it.06:02
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SpAwNi hope u didnt have any valuable info06:02
Zamboulieya i just realized that lmao06:02
baojiSpAwN: I'm installing on a blank drive :)06:02
SpAwNbaoji, good =D it hosed my partions 2 times in a row06:02
Zambouliewow this is confusing06:02
baojiSpAwN: so what should I get instead: the Alternate Version?06:02
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SpAwNbaoji, u can either dl the other version...or do what i did...install it using "text mode"06:03
SpAwNthe text mode install went realy good....partion didnt messs up06:03
baojiSpAwN: I'm v. comfortable in text mode... how do I get there?06:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:03
SpAwNbaoji, are you using a live dvd or live cd?06:04
baojiSpAwN: cd06:04
SpAwNbaoji, then u will have to re dl it...as im pretty sure its not on the cd06:04
SpAwNu can check06:04
SpAwNreboot....if it promts u for a options to boot....see if there is a text mode06:05
Zamboulieokok now it says ~/alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c$06:05
Zamboulienow do i type ./install?06:05
SpAwNreboot to the cd tha is....06:05
baojiSpAwN: ah, of course... I'll give that a go. thanks for giving me hope :)06:05
SpAwNbaoji, np.....but im 99% sure the cd doesnt have it06:05
crimsunZamboulie: um... that's the realtek stuff. Why are you messing with that instead of the alsa-driver-1.0.12 I specifically mentioned?06:05
Zambouliei was following ur instructions06:05
baojiSpAwN: the alternate version then... good stuff06:06
Zamboulieand look above06:06
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Zamboulieit clearly says alsa-driver...06:06
crimsunZamboulie: my instructions are for alsa-driver-1.0.12, not alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c06:06
baojiSpAwN: thanks so much!06:06
shane_you guys mind if I ask some questions about xgl and compiz?06:06
SpAwNbaoji, np man06:06
Zambouliek wait wait a sec06:06
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Zamboulielets just pm06:06
crimsunZamboulie: (in each instance I've specifically stated alsa-driver-1.0.12)06:06
Zambouliesry i'm really frigging stupid06:07
shane_no one is home at the #ubuntu-xgl room06:07
Silver_AdeptOh, wait, wait.... whoooo! It works! Thank you, Crimsun!06:07
Zambouliei'm only 16 with adhd so i never know whats goiing on06:07
crimsunSilver_Adept: np.06:07
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Silver_AdeptYour magical powers are great and legendary... and it's rather funny, I just fiddled some options, 'tis all. Thanks for your patience.06:07
DFMzamboulie:1st stop trashing yourself Linux takes time and I still have yet to get a clue so don't feel bad.06:08
shane_ I just installed XGL with AutomatixBleeder. Everything seemed to go well but when I started an XGL session there is no XGL. How can I tell I got things done correct?06:09
Zamboulieits after midnight i gues i'm tired06:09
Zamboulieok ya i did something wrong here06:10
Zambouliethe alsa driver, where do i get it'06:10
Zambouliebecause i mixed something up with what u said06:10
crimsunZamboulie: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz206:10
DFMzam:I forgot to mention I have been fooling around with Linux for just over 3 years and it wasn't until I discovered Debian that I wanted to learn more and now that I am using Ubuntu I want to abandon Window's.06:11
Zambouliesame here06:11
Zambouliebut i play fear and stuff so i still need it06:11
Zamboulieand all my pictures and music is there06:11
DFMI have yet to swith to PCIexpress but I do game and will keep win for that06:12
Zambouliei only have a 7300gs06:12
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Zambouliei overclocked it till it artifacted but still isn't good enough06:12
Zambouliei also pumped my cpu from 1.8 to 2.5ghz06:12
Zambouliestock cooling and everything06:12
SpAwNplay et on linux....best game ever06:13
SpAwNand its made for linux...06:13
Dr_Willisxmoto !06:13
shane_SpAwN et?06:13
larson9999fish fillets is the best game every06:13
SpAwNwolfenstien:eney territory06:13
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Zambouliei have guild wars on this06:13
Zambouliebeat that everyone06:13
DFMquit it you guys ur making me itch to fragg someone!!!!!!!06:14
larson9999or m.u.l.e. and you can run that on two tin cans and a thing of dental floss06:14
SpAwNi play cs and css on linx to..but use cedgea06:14
shane_SpAwN ahh ok I have been looking for a decent game. I may just say screw the XGL06:14
SpAwNshane_, xgl breaks everything06:14
SpAwNnot worth it in imo06:14
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shane_SpAwN I installed it but nothing happens. How can I make sure to get rid of it? I have never uninstalled anything before .. yet06:15
larson9999i'm so far behind on games that my next in line is duke nukem 3d06:15
SpAwNshane_, well just last week i went to install xgl...installed like 5 packages for it......then decided not to install it...and it TOTALY messed up06:15
SpAwNlarson9999, your in for a good surpise...duke nukem pwns06:16
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DFMwell Larson I still get a kick out of Pac-Man06:16
glickhey does anyone have a dlink wirless card?06:16
shane_SpAwN so how would I uninstall XGL and compiz?06:16
Zamboulieok crimsun i'm up to speed now06:16
glickdoes it work with linux?06:16
larson9999SpAwN: oh.  actually i think that started a trend i don't like... the gun on the side angle.06:17
SpAwNshane_, f'ed if i know06:17
DFMglick: yes06:17
crimsunZamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.1206:17
shane_SpAwN and this dang smooth font crap too ( I used automatixbleeder)06:17
glickDFM: the dlink wireless cards work with linux?06:17
SpAwNlarson9999, hehe06:17
Zamboulieya i did that06:17
DFMglick: some do06:17
SpAwNi just remeber being a little kid and finding the tittie bar in duke nukem06:17
SpAwNu hit space bar and they take there tops off06:17
Dr_WillisI cant even get Duke Nukem to work any more.06:18
DFMglick: get a DWL-G650 it works out of the box.06:18
SpAwNDr_Willis, i had it running in linux06:18
Dr_Willisi found the old cd in a box a few weeks ago.06:18
SpAwNDr_Willis, they have ported it im pretty sure06:18
Silver_AdeptAnyway, thanks again, crimsun.06:18
SpAwN...but this was many bong hits ago06:18
SpAwNso i forget :P06:18
DFMglick: Lights flash kind of funky but other than that it took right off06:18
glickthats the one im thinking about06:19
crimsunZamboulie: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes --with-pcm-oss-plugins=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build06:19
larson9999i have 200+ games on cd here i haven't played.  had another 200+ on floppy but i sold most of them.  no time to play06:19
Zambouliewhat the hell06:19
SpAwN i dled redneck rampage the other day...couldnt get it working wine06:19
SpAwNgood old school funny game06:19
Zamboulieits working06:19
Zamboulieok i did the command06:20
crimsunZamboulie: make && sudo make install06:20
SpAwNwent to a demolition derby tonight....still got clumps of mud on me.......it was great06:20
Zamboulieso this driver is for my chip right?06:20
SpAwNsome sloppy racing06:21
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DFMglick: You had better check to see if it's compatable. I doubt any N series is going to work right now but I may be wrong.06:21
crimsunZamboulie: both of them, yes.06:21
Zamboulieok reboot now?06:21
crimsunhas it already finished?06:21
crimsunZamboulie: now, sudo depmod -e06:21
shane_ahh suddenly xgl and compiz work. barely06:22
DFMSomeone else might know. I just know that I chose a card off the list after trying in vain to get one of the 4 I had to work.06:22
shane_whats the command to rotate the cube?06:22
crimsunZamboulie: now, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^filename06:22
Zamboulieam i supposed to change ^filename06:22
crimsunno, type it precisely and tell us the output06:23
Zambouliefilename:       /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko06:23
crimsunZamboulie: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko06:23
crimsun(and tell us the output)06:24
Zamboulie-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24392 2006-08-26 00:21 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko06:24
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crimsunok, good. Now pastebin ``lsmod |grep ^snd''06:24
Zamboulieso do ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' then tell u the output06:25
Zamboulieor are u talking to me?06:25
Dr_Willisuse pastebin.com - post it there. :)06:25
crimsundon't paste the output here; put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:25
Dr_Willisor some other. :P06:25
Zamboulieso the command is exactly ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' with the quotations06:25
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larson9999i wish i was a hacker so i could make use of this dvt06:29
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Dr_WillisHeh - i haxored my DVR by flashing/updating its bios from a hacked one i found on the internet. :P06:29
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Dr_WillisNo more of that silly macromedia (or whatever the #(#( its called) protection on it now.06:30
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crimsunZamboulie: sudo modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss && lsmod |grep ^snd06:30
jbeagleymy computer crashed, i reset it, and now when i try to log in to my normal non-root account through the GUI, it tells me it doesn't have access to my home directory06:30
larson9999Dr_Willis: i bought a scientific atlanta explorer 8300 for $5 but it can't use it :(06:31
crimsunZamboulie: what was the output?06:31
Zambouliejust went down to the next line06:31
crimsungood. Now, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel06:31
Zambouliei heard crackling!06:31
charles1952Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories.06:32
crimsunZamboulie: now, pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''06:32
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charles1952Zamboulie: Thank you very much!!!06:34
Zamboulieoh lol ur welcome06:34
Zambouliedon't include the number though06:35
crimsunZamboulie: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav06:35
charles1952Zamboulie: So I see!06:35
Zambouliethat sounded cool06:36
crimsunwhat did?06:36
Zambouliethe sound06:36
crimsunok, then problem resolved.06:36
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crimsunwhy reboot?06:37
crimsunyour system works just fine06:37
Zambouliewell kmix hasn't detected anything06:37
crimsunthen log out of KDE and back in06:37
Zamboulieoh oki06:37
Zambouliei luvs you!06:37
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dekI am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?06:39
charles1952Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories. Could not find a good sources.list on the site he suggested.06:39
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Zamboulieok anyone need help?06:40
dekme :P06:41
charles1952Yes...couldn't find a sources.list on the url you suggested...and other sites that you could recommend?06:41
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dekI paste: I am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?06:41
vinicrihow do i change desktop resolution on kubutu06:41
Zamboulieand click kmenu06:42
Zambouliesystem settings > display06:42
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Zamboulieif you cant change the resolution you don't have a driver installed for ur video card06:42
httpdssdek: how did you configure your smb ??06:43
larson9999why doesn't kcontrol appear on the kmenu by default?  or does it and i'm just too big a moron to find it?06:43
dekhttpdss: i followed this HOW TO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260506:44
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Zambouliei have absolutely NO bass06:48
Zamboulieits just treble06:48
Zambouliethats why i was trying to install the realtek drivers06:48
Zambouliei ended up reinstalling the alsa ones....fuck06:48
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:48
Zamboulieoh i have no audio when i watch videos in google video06:49
SpAwNZamboulie, somthing is probly using the sound device...maby try killall artsd then restart the web browser06:50
SpAwNi have to do that every once in a while06:50
httpdssdek: check connection between the 2 machines with a ping... can they see themselves ?06:50
Zambouliei'm pretty sure there is just no code06:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:51
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crimsunZamboulie: the flash issue is well-known06:51
Zambouliei can run flash06:52
Zambouliebut i have no sound in flash either06:53
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dekhttpdss: I pinged (my other PC), seems they can't see each other06:55
dekI want to set the IP of my Kubuntu to but I can't find a way to do that06:55
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httpdsssudo ifconfig eth0 inet netmask
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deknow ping seems to work06:57
httpdssthe console way :P ... else go to System Settings and under network settings youll find the way out06:57
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faked_In Ktorrent, I forwarded to the default ports but I'm still getting like NO speed at all, what's the problem here?06:57
pidg30nHave you limited the upload speed at all?06:58
faked_I don't limit UL speeds06:58
dekhttpdss I love you xD now samba works, thanks06:58
dekI spent days trying to figure this out :P06:58
faked_well I need this torrent06:58
httpdssdek: no prob !06:58
faked_it WAS DLing... now it's just not working06:58
faked_okay now it's dling 4 kbs... it's been jumping on and off like this since it started06:59
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larson9999wth?  vista is going to require signed drivers for the 64bit version?  lol06:59
faked_does anyone have ANY idea how to make it more consistent?06:59
httpdssdek: that ip will get unassiged once you reboot. you need to get your network settings permanent07:00
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faked_... come on, someone answer me, PLEASE?!07:01
dekhttpdss: how do I do that?07:01
durper287sorry, haven't worked with bittorent07:01
httpdssdek: easy way is  through network settings ... else console way would be to modify /etc/network/interfaces07:01
faked_how do you live, torrents rock >_> ...when they work07:01
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durper287so do newsgroups07:02
faked_newsgroups? psht07:02
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dekhttpdss: when I go to network settings and enable "Manual" with my new IP, it says Default Gateway Ip is invalid07:03
dekwhat do I put in gateway IP?07:04
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httpdss_dek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21690    <--- thats how your /etc/network/interfaces should look like ... (on a "normal" situation)07:09
dekyou from Uruguay?07:09
soulriderhttpdss_:  :O07:09
soulriderya somos 3 :P07:10
deksi :P07:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:10
Jucato[AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)07:10
httpdss_me yes :P07:10
dek:O que coincidencia :P07:10
httpdss_jajaja ... en cualquier momento nos rajan a todos :)07:11
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:11
dekno puedo creer, encontrarse con otro uruguayo ac, parece joda :P07:11
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deksoulrider es amigo xD07:11
soulridervamos al offtopic o nos corren :/07:11
dekok xD07:12
mx__si senorita :p07:12
shawn___has anyone in here upgraded to edgy? is it worth the hassle?07:12
Jucatoshawn___: not yet07:12
Jucatounless you want to test it07:12
JucatoEdgy will be released on October07:12
shawn___alright because I was using dapper like 2 months before the final07:13
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Jucatowell, Edgy is more edgy than Dapper, even at this stage07:13
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shawn___how has it be for stability?07:13
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Jucatowell, from what I've heard, it's pretty usable, but not as your main OS07:14
shawn___oh ok... I guess I'll wait then... I have to have something stable for programming07:15
Jucatoand even when Edgy comes around, it "might" be just a tad bit less stable than Dapper, AFAIK.07:16
JucatoEdgy's focus is on bleeding edge, I think07:16
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soulriderJucato: is edgy, thats why :P07:17
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Martijn81faked_: try KTorrent 2.0.1, it's much faster and has many issues fixed07:23
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flaccidcan you install ktorrent by apt-get07:26
soulriderbut i suggets you get the latest deb from their site07:26
soulriderversion 2.0.107:26
flaccidoh its already installed07:26
JucatoKTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports07:26
flaccid1.2-0ubuntu5 looks old07:27
flaccidus backports a source?07:27
Jucatoyep. it's already in sources.list, just need to enable it07:27
Jucatodeb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse07:28
flaccidthat the only one i need07:28
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DrenheadI'm having problems trying to change to the linux-686 kernel.  when I do, my mouse and keyboard stop working.  Am I missing something?07:28
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abattoirDrenhead: do you have the corresponding linux-restricted-modules package installed?07:30
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DrenheadI just pasted a screenshot of what I have installed07:33
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[Nige] hi all07:47
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MilhousePunkRockGood morning everyone07:58
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Drenheadabattoir:  have you had a chance to look at the screenshot I posted?08:03
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Kai221 users. and not the one person asking a question. Wow. so different in the early mornings08:26
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Jucatothere are 222 nicks, but 200 of them barely say anything :-D08:26
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Kai222 now, only since tn3270 joined.08:27
Kaibut true, most that are here now are just idlers, or helpers that are sleeping or have no questions to answer.08:28
tn3270you guys take qns?08:28
tn3270i am trying to get rid of the irritating apt messages08:28
tn3270i upgraded form breezy to dapper08:29
JucatoKai: some are developers :-D08:29
Kaiif you have a question, someone probably has an answer08:29
Kaiwhats the message?08:29
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tn3270ah ok08:29
Kaiive done that08:29
tn3270they refer to the breezy cd08:29
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tn3270i changed the apt sources list08:29
Jucatotn3270: did you remove the line that has "cdrom" in it?08:30
tn3270it is just irritating, can i remove the entry for the cd08:30
tn3270not yet08:30
Jucatotn3270: open up Adept (K Menu > System > Adept)08:30
Kaiyea, you can do without the cdrom soure08:30
tn3270ah ok08:30
tn3270i was afraid it would break something08:30
tn3270thx for the help08:31
Kainot at all. i dont use the cd source ever. pain in the ass08:31
tn3270i'll go try08:31
Kaiso i just removed it08:31
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tn3270k, canother interesting qn08:31
tn3270can i remove the desktop08:31
tn3270ie get rid of kde-desktop08:32
tn3270or whatever desktop08:32
tn3270i mean don't install the gui08:32
Kaifor a server, yes08:32
Kaiapt-get remove kubuntu-desktop08:32
tn3270apt-get deinstall kde ?08:32
JucatoKai: that will only remove "kubuntu-desktop"08:33
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Jucatothat won't work08:33
Kaiits a metapackage so it removes everything associate08:33
redbladesWait, I thought you had to use Aptitude to do that... ?08:33
JucatoKai: it won't do that08:33
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Jucatoit will only uninstall the kubuntu-desktop pakage and only that08:33
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tn3270i am contemplating chaging to xfce08:33
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Jucatono problem with that tn327008:34
Kaitrust me, i had a hard enough time first time i moved from gnome to kde, ubuntu-desktop wanted to take most of the stuff i wanted kept with it08:34
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JucatoKai: trust me, you can try doing it yourself now08:34
Jucatoand see what it will remove08:34
tn3270i tried that on breezy, I think I broke x08:34
KaiJucato, no thanks. Im using my KDE ;P08:34
ironfroggyany idea whats going on if scrolling with the right edge of my touchpad just stops randomly during a session and works again after a restart?08:35
tn3270hehe just experimenting08:35
JucatoKai: you can try it without confirming it so you won't have to actually remove anything08:35
ironfroggyalso interesting is that usually the pointer acceleration doesnt seem to affect the touchpad, but when the scrolling stops working the acceleration kicks in.08:35
Kaithats weird08:35
Jucatoremoving kubuntu-desktop will only work when 1) you use Aptitude and 2) it was installed using Aptitude08:36
Kaidifferent from breezy. back on breezy it would have ripped all of its sibling packages, kicking and screaming, from the system08:36
Kaior at least thats what happened to me.08:36
tn3270i will keep that in mind and try08:37
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inteliwaspis there a platform independent way of useing remote dektop?08:38
Jucatotn3270: you might want to have a look at this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php specially about installing Gnome, KDE, and Xfce08:38
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tn3270i think i read that already hehe, but thanks08:39
tn3270i'll try later08:39
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tn3270*crosses fingers*08:39
tn3270btw don't you guys sleep?08:39
ironfroggyare there known issues with touchpads like this?08:39
Jucatoit's almost 3pm here...08:40
tn3270lol same08:40
inteliwasp02:40 here08:40
tn3270jucato is in SEA?08:40
ironfroggyhere too.. AM, tho.08:40
Jucatotn3270: yeh ^_^08:40
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tn3270tks for help08:41
inteliwaspthat was a 24hr clock... AM  weeeeee08:41
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nalioth who needs sleep?08:43
inteliwaspi second that08:43
tn3270sleep is for the weak08:43
Jucatosleep does not exist in nalioth's vocabulary08:43
fritschtn3270: :hehe, just got up08:43
fritschtn3270: :-)08:43
tn3270wow, you guys are frienndly08:44
fritschtn3270: was totally tired, done 12 hours of kernel recompiling yesterdays (f*cking sky2)08:44
tn3270my fun yesterday was this:08:44
fritschtn3270: 2.6.18-rc4 <- very stable for this card08:44
tn3270manually send 3000+ mails08:44
fritschtn3270: lol08:44
fritschtn3270: why that? perl/bash is your friend08:45
tn3270is exciting08:45
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tn3270no no windows 20 box08:45
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tn3270with some weird email software08:45
tn3270notbad, 3hrs only :P08:45
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fritschtn3270: every 3 seconds a mail08:46
tn3270how come you took 12hrs to recompile :P08:46
fritschtn3270: oh my god08:46
fritschtn3270: long story08:46
fritschtn3270: my new mainboard has an IT821X controller08:46
tn3270most of it was deleting "mail delivery" notices08:46
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fritschtn3270: after plugin my lvm and ubuntu installation, no root could be mounted, while booting (just normal, no problem)08:47
fritschtn3270: after this a booted a live cd, chrooted in, redid initrd08:47
fritschtn3270: rebooted and, what do i have to see: nothing works08:47
fritschtn3270: problem was: my installation knew the drive as hda08:47
fritschtn3270: the live cd loads the ITE821X after the intel piix modul08:48
fritschtn3270: => /dev/hde is now my harddisk08:48
inteliwaspis it worh it to recompile the kernal for my laptop for performance/batt times?08:48
fritschtn3270: very annoying for grub, which can t find "corresponding bios drive"08:48
tn3270how did that happen fritsch?08:48
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fritschtn3270: bought new mainboard/cpu08:48
fritschtn3270: IDE controller changed08:48
tn3270suppose so08:48
tn3270grub can't find the drive then?08:49
fritschtn3270: but to finish, the new initrd know it again as "hda" ;-) because It821x comes before Piix08:49
inteliwaspnm.... brain is outta gas..... *thud*08:49
fritschtn3270: yes, if you have a special ide chipset08:49
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fritschtn3270: normally no stress, the mix up (hde <-> hda) from live to booted/chrooted system was problem at first08:50
tn3270why are you guys so hardcore?08:50
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fritschtn3270: hardcore?08:50
fritschtn3270: i want to use an OS08:50
tn3270yeah you spend 12 to recompile08:50
tn327012 hrs08:50
fritschtn3270: compile time was perhaps 1 hour08:50
fritschtn3270: but friggling out the devices stuff08:50
tn3270yeah i suppose08:51
tn3270many would have given up08:51
fritschtn3270: after that i tried kernels to improve sky2 bandwith08:51
tn3270i appluad your... tenacity08:51
tn3270what is sky2?08:51
fritschtn3270: but not me, made a howto and send it to my computer shop08:51
fritschtn3270: this is a network driver08:51
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fritschtn3270: the device says "hello" under eth1, but wants to be used on eth2 ;-)08:51
fritsch[17179584.788000]  sky2 eth0: addr 00:17:31:84:44:8d08:52
fritsch[17179584.936000]  sky2 eth2: enabling interface08:52
fritschtn3270: cool *g* or?08:52
fritschtn3270: perhaps some udev stuff, i could manage this hehe08:52
tn3270you are way to scary08:52
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tn3270i just know the basics08:53
tn3270and you're playing with interesting drivers08:53
fritschtn3270: don`t want to scarry08:53
fritschtn3270: i use linux because of such stuff ... there would have been no way to keep an windows XP installation08:54
tn3270no worries08:54
ironfroggyhas anyone here been having trouble with firefox?08:54
tn3270not really08:54
fritschironfroggy: in what way?08:54
ironfroggyim having consistant problems with it on two boxes, but its different consistant problems on each box.08:54
Jucatowhat kind of problem?08:54
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ironfroggyone my laptop i get repeated freezing08:54
fritschironfroggy: only firefox or the whole system?08:55
ironfroggyand on the desktop it randomly loads pages without rendering them.08:55
ironfroggyjust firefox08:55
fritschironfroggy: some "jungle" plugins (sorry don`t find the english word)08:55
ironfroggyumm.. not sure what you mean08:56
fritschironfroggy: some wmv plugins can hang firefox very ugly, or acessing flash sites08:56
fritschironfroggy: can you reproduce it to a page?08:56
ironfroggyno its never reproducable.08:56
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fritschironfroggy: shit :-)08:56
fritschironfroggy: ypi ise tje ate versopm08:56
ironfroggyits just one of those "eventually" bugs08:56
fritschironfroggy: sorry, did not look an the screen08:56
fritschironfroggy: you use the latest version?08:56
fritschironfroggy: try following08:56
fritschironfroggy: start firefox from a terminal and have a look, if something is reported in08:57
ironfroggywhat i find the oddest is that both boxes are up to date and get these different problems, but both get their respective problems pretty consistantly.08:57
ironfroggyill do that08:57
fritschironfroggy: you can also look in ~/.xession-errors08:57
ironfroggyare there any verbosity flags i can use?08:57
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fritschironfroggy: --g-fatal-warnings08:57
fritschironfroggy: or -safe-mode08:58
fritschironfroggy: if safe mode works, then an extension is the problem08:58
ironfroggyok if i cant figure anything out from this ill run in a debugger next time.08:58
fritschironfroggy: okay, have fun08:58
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fritschroot: could you do: adduser fritsch adm08:59
ironfroggybut also, i still cant scroll with my touchpad and dont know why its stopping working.08:59
fritschroot: lol, was just a joke, because of your "root" name08:59
fritschironfroggy: did you suspend in between?08:59
fritschironfroggy: just switch to a terminal: "ctrl alt F1" and switch back "ctrl alt F7"09:00
ironfroggyno it just happens now and then. its pretty rare, but very annoying09:00
fritschironfroggy: and retry09:00
ironfroggytried that, no go09:00
fritschironfroggy: okay, perhaps look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:00
fritschironfroggy: synaptics is it .. i think09:00
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ironfroggyyes its not finding the touchpad device, so it must be falling back on a standard mouse driver.09:01
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quink25hello, just a question:09:04
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quink25i'm having problems with a latitude c600 cd-rom drive. all i think i need is a kernel option that i can pass on, that says no persitent mount. the documentation was kinda sparse on that one, so it'd be nice to have something09:05
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quink25i'm trying to run an install09:06
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redondo81Hi guys, do you know how I can run  windows exe files under linux?There's an emulator o something like?09:09
Jucatoredondo81: Wine. but not all windows programs will run09:10
redondo81ok, thanks, with apt-get I can install it?09:10
Ash-FoxI suggest that if you have difficulties with wine, to readup about the program you want to run on http://appdb.winehq.org/09:11
redondo81Thank you very much!I try now :)09:12
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quink25any ideas?09:16
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fritschquink25: what is not working?09:17
fritschquink25: does it not mount or does it always mount?09:18
quink25it doesn't mount at all09:18
quink25the cd is not defective09:18
quink25slax has a similar problem on the laptop09:18
fritschquink25: okay09:18
quink25the mount of the root file system fails09:18
fritschquink25: is it detected by the kernel?09:18
quink25the root on the cd09:18
quink25is what detected by the kernel?09:18
fritschquink25: you can try pass the values: routeirq=pci09:18
quink25the cd - good question...09:19
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fritschquink25: and if nothing works, try: routeirq=pci irqpoll09:19
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fritschquink25: dmesg |grep hd09:20
quink25alright, restarting09:20
fritschquink25: does this give something usefull?09:20
fritschquink25: okay, have a try09:20
quink25it doesn't even get up to that stage09:20
quink25where i have the shell09:20
fritschquink25: the cd is not your only problem?09:20
quink25unless, there's a backdoor for a shell...09:21
fritschquink25: it does not boot at all?09:21
quink25i think it is the cd-drive only that's the problem09:21
fritschquink25: ah!09:21
fritschquink25: you want to start the live cd?09:21
quink25that all linux distros can't get to mount the root file system, unless some parameters are passed on at boot time.09:21
fritschquink25: okay, perhaps this helps09:21
fritschquink25: if not: try: acpi=off noapic (APIC, not acpi)09:22
quink25ok, routeirq=pci didn't work09:22
fritschquink25: the irqpoll is very evil ... i got a confused cdrom drive with this option ...09:22
quink25ok, i'll give that a try09:22
fritschquink25: just place: routeirq=pci irqpoll acpi=off noapic nolapic09:22
heinkel_111good morning :)09:23
fritschquink25: this sould be very hardcore though09:23
fritschheinkel_111: moin!09:23
fritschheinkel_111: you have been in bed, too?09:23
fritschheinkel_111: you are an european, too?09:23
heinkel_111i lost my hacking powah09:23
heinkel_111fritsch: yes i am norwegian09:23
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timothyI need to transfer the contents of a 2.5 gig hd to this computer.  the only way I can do this is over the wireless network.  how would I do such a transfer?09:39
timothythe computer with the files is booted inte dsl linux09:39
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JucatoI guess no one knows?09:42
timothythat sucks09:42
Jucatoor maybe no one who's here right now...09:43
JucatoCan't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/09:43
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TheGateKeepertimothy: both computers linux?09:43
timothythe receving computer is kubntu the sending computer is danm small linux09:44
TheGateKeeperuse NFS09:44
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.09:45
TheGateKeepertimothy: set up a share using nfs on the receiving computer, then use konqueror on the sending computer to push the files to the other one09:46
blewisHi all.  Does anyone have a problem with opening files on smb shares with openoffice09:47
timothyok, ill try it09:47
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TheGateKeepertimothy: once you have installed nfs on kubuntu you can use the gui in ssytem settings --> sharing to setup the share09:48
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rohit_help!! amarok not playing mp309:50
Martijn81is there another way to unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ besised rebooting?09:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
redondo81I installed wine, what program can I run to try if it works now?09:51
Jucatorohit_: you need to install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"09:51
rohit_i did that09:51
Jucatois it already installed?09:51
rohit_xmms is able to play mp3 but not amarok09:52
Jucatoxmms uses its own thing to play mp3's. amarok needs libxine-extracodecs09:52
Jucatocheck if Amarok is using the xine engine (Settings menu > Configure Amarok > Engine)09:52
rohit_yes it is09:53
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rohit_how do i re-install libxine-extracodecs09:53
Martijn81libmad0? Just guessing though09:53
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redondo81Do you know a good ide to develop c/c++ programs under linux?09:55
Jucatoredondo81: KDevelop09:55
rohit_thanks Jucato it seems to be working now!!09:56
redondo81thanks jucato09:56
Jucatowow, 2 thanks in a row ehehehe09:56
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rohit_well then I will enjoy my Mp3s thanks again09:56
TheGateKeeperredondo81: someone suggested this haven't got round to trying it: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots09:57
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whateverhow do I increase the speed of the mouse?09:58
whateverfrom system settings > mouse the 'pointer threshold' cannot be increased to more than 20px09:59
whateverI want it to go more than that. possible? Maybe from teh command line?09:59
whateverIn which file is this setting stored?10:00
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kooboontuWell I'm pleasantly surprised. I had expected to go through some hell to get sound to work using the original 6.06 LTS live cd, but this Dell's Sigmatel 92xx works.10:02
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equinoxeBhy there...10:06
xstI have a CUPS problem: When I, from my local host, A, try to print to a remote CUPS-host, B, all that comes out from the printer is a sheet with some "@PJL SET foo=bar" lines on it. If I print directly from the remote box (B), the output is just fine. Not even "echo foo | lpr" is printed correctly from hos A. What to do?10:06
equinoxeBis there a page on the internet where I can find how to decrease the boot time?10:06
kooboontuequinoxeB: sure, look for things like removing unnecessary initscripts10:07
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TheGateKeeperequinoxeB: if you search the ubuntu forums there should be information there, mainly involves removing services that you arn't going to use10:09
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gan|y|medhi. is there a way to switch runlevels with initng?10:11
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Tokeiitolabas rytas (good morning)10:26
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ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.10:40
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Tokeiitowhat soft i can use for compressing avi movie?10:42
todoestaquianyone can help me ? on term konsole, when typed 'ls | less' => ok but when typed 'ps | less' -> bash : less: command not found ???10:46
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phreakyswhat is the xgl-kubuntu package for?10:54
phreakysseems to be broken on my fresh kubuntu install10:54
phreakys(i know its for compiz, but i used the manual method to install before)10:54
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redondo81I have a problem,I have to install JRE to visualize an applet on Firefox, how can I do?10:57
phreakysah, did that some days back10:57
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository10:57
phreakysits there10:58
redondo81ok, thanks10:58
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phreakysremoving xgl-kubuntu, seems like its trashing halve of kubuntu :S11:00
redondo81I have a problem , when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre it says to me it cannot find it,do you know why?11:00
Jucatoredondo81: you need to enable the "multiverse" component of the repos11:00
SubNethi there!11:01
redondo81and how?11:01
phreakyssudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:01
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:01
phreakyscheck for the universe files and add multiverse behind11:01
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SubNetAnybody experienced with k9copy? Tells me it couldn't open pipe ...11:01
SubNetI have no Idea what this could be11:01
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phreakysnope, no idea11:02
fenixoni have a question - how to change my linux theme?11:03
phreakyshm, installed xgl from jesper's script. *fingers crossed* brb11:06
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AquaFoxIf I idle my computer before I sleep I find it logged out.11:09
AquaFoxI want my programs to keep running.11:10
redondo81I enable multiverse but nothing, it don't find it11:10
AquaFoxHow to fix it?11:10
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Jucatoredondo81: make sure that the multiverse that you enabled is on this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and not on the dapper-backports line11:10
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AquaFoxHelp me guys?11:11
phreakyshm, no love from compiz11:11
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redondo81I make a mistake a set all the repositories to multiverse!!!11:14
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redondo81and now?What can I do to repair my error?11:15
fdovingredondo81: i recommend using source-o-matic11:15
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:15
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Martijn81errrr, anyone used vmware on ubuntu?11:19
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Martijn81i am trying to install 'that other OS'... but what do i awnser as partition type, seeing that it will install in my home ext3 partition?11:21
Martijn81i mean filesystem11:22
fdovingMartijn81: you're trying to install windows?11:22
fdovingdo you have free space on your harddisk?11:22
fdovingunpartitioned that is.11:22
Bazziyou should be able to create a virtual disk w/ ntfs as filesystem11:22
Bazziwhich is what I recommend11:22
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Martijn81fdoving: yes, with vmware workstation11:22
fdovingMartijn81: ok. then i'll just shutup. i don't know vmware :)11:23
Martijn81so... i guess it's not going to work on my ext file system11:23
Bazzihm upgrade to vmware server then I can help you ;)11:24
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Martijn81pfff, glad i asked before hitting the key :)11:24
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Martijn81damn, i don' t want any fancy ntfs anymore ;(11:25
Martijn81i knew it would break me11:25
redondo81I have the new sources.list, but now how  can I copy it in etc/apt/ folder?11:26
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BazziMartijn81: well, ntfs is on the virtual disk then, so no harm for you ;)11:26
redondo81I have to copy as root a file in a folder , how can I do?11:27
Martijn81redondo81: with sudo11:28
Martijn81redondo81: sudo cp /where/sources.list/is/now /etc/apt/sources.list11:28
Martijn81redondo81: but first backup11:28
redondo81ok, done11:29
Martijn81redondo81: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_BACKUP_data11:29
redondo81now, how to install jre?11:29
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Martijn81Bazzi: so it doesn't mather is i install the virtual system on ext3?11:30
Bazziyeah you can install it anywhere11:30
vandenoeveris there a source for cmake 2.4 in kubuntu dapper?11:31
Martijn81redondo81: apt-cache search sun11:31
fdovingvandenoever: only 2.2.311:32
vandenoeverfdoving: there's no backport?11:32
fdovingvandenoever: not that i'm aware of. might be anyway though.11:32
vandenoeveri'm developing strigi and would like to make sure people can build it on dapper11:32
Martijn81redondo81: if sun-java5-jre is listed there you can install it with sudo apt-get install packagename11:33
vandenoeverfdoving: i searched with google, is there an easier search engine for kubuntu packages?11:33
fdovingvandenoever: http://packages.ubuntu.com11:34
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vandenoeverfdoving: hmm, ok11:34
fdovingyou're welcome.11:35
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AquaFoxCan anybody here help me?11:37
redondo81when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre,it says me that dipendencies are not satisfied, it requests to install sun-java5-bin, but it's not installable,I don't know why!:(11:37
AquaFoxI'm on Kubuntu.11:37
AquaFoxAnd my computer is on 24/7.11:37
AquaFoxBefore I go to sleep I let it idle and it logs off automatically.11:37
AquaFoxI don't want it to log off automatically :(.11:37
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redondo81In adept request entry the package is signaleted as broken,why?11:40
phreakyskde is so buggy on xgl11:40
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redondo81someone can help me please?:(11:41
phreakyswhat is broken?11:41
redondo81the sun-jre package11:42
phreakystry remove it manually11:42
redondo81what can I do to repair?11:42
phreakyssudo apt-get remove *package*11:42
redondo81but it's not installed11:42
phreakysand then reinstall11:42
phreakysif its marked as broken, you should remove it11:42
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phreakysi did that on xgl-kubuntu an hour ago (broken too), and now it works fine11:42
redondo81but the problem is that it's not installed , it says that the request is broken11:43
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phreakysyea, so try to remove the stuff remaining11:44
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redondo81how can I know what version of ubuntu I have?(dapper or breezy or hoary?11:47
Jucatoredondo81: in Konsole, type: lsb_release -a11:47
redondo81mine is dapper11:48
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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo11:49
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phreakyshm, is there a way to disable the xgl-windowbar on startup in kde?11:55
phreakysnm, time for a brak11:56
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Martijn81heyyyy, cool i will read that Jucato, thnx12:00
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Piou2fois-frhi all12:07
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Piou2fois-frsomebody can help me about xming software and x11forwarding,12:07
fdovingwhat is your problem?12:08
Piou2fois-frfdoving, i can easily start all software with putty12:08
Piou2fois-frbut if i used "startkde" all is ok five minutes but freezes after12:08
Piou2fois-fris it a way to solve this problem?12:09
fdovinghmm.. don't know, i don't use putty very much, never tried running KDE through it.12:09
whateverwill "aptitude purge wine" do a complete (including all settings) uninstallation of wine?12:10
Piou2fois-frok, can is it possible to use something else than ssh for x11forwarding?12:10
fdovingwhatever: yes, system settings, not per-user settings.12:10
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aliasfredPiou2fois-fr: the 5min tells me it could be an issue of screenblanker. you may try to disable it to see if it changes something12:11
aliasfredPiou2fois-fr: nx machine is much faster and allow this12:11
Piou2fois-frnxviewer and nxserver?12:12
aliasfredi dunno :)12:12
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aliasfredi tried it once and it IS much faster. but im no expert at all :)12:12
Piou2fois-fraliasfred, the freeze problem appear if for example i start firefox12:12
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Piou2fois-fraliasfred, do you think that screensaver can start if i use x11forwarding?12:13
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aliasfredit was just a deduction from the fixed time you reported12:14
Piou2fois-fri will loof for disabling this12:14
aliasfredloof ?12:14
Piou2fois-fraliasfred, it seems that no screensaver is enabled12:16
aliasfredso it was not that :)12:16
JohnFluxhey all12:16
JohnFluxi'm trying to compile mythtv, but it complains it can't find  -lmp3lame12:16
JohnFluxI have liblame0  installed12:16
fdovingJohnFlux: install liblame-dev12:17
JohnFluxwhen I try to install  liblame-dev    apt tells me it's replaced with liblame012:17
JohnFluxPackage liblame-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:17
JohnFluxHowever the following packages replace it:12:17
JohnFlux  liblame012:17
JohnFluxit's x86_64 arch - so maybe that's why :/12:17
fdovinghum.. could be.12:17
JohnFluxdapper btw12:18
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fdovingJohnFlux: liblame-dev is installable on my dapper system.12:19
JohnFluxfdoving: x86_64 ?12:19
JohnFluxfdoving: which repos please?  I'll just get it manually12:19
fdovingno, regular x86.12:19
JohnFluxyou mean i386 ?12:19
fdovingliblame-dev |   3.96.1-1 | http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages12:19
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whateverwill "aptitude purge wine" do a complete uninstallation of wine?12:20
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JohnFluxwhatever: you'll probably want to remove  libwine as well12:21
whateverif not how do I do a complete uninstallation( including each and every setting12:21
Jucatowhatever: it won't remove the hidden .wine directory in your home directory12:22
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whateverso If I remove .wine libwine, then it wld be gone completely?12:23
JohnFluxwhatever: i think so12:24
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Jucatowhat "sudo aptitude purge --purge-unused wine" will do is to remove wine and whatever was installed with it presuming you installed it using aptitude. it will also remove the configuration files for these packages12:25
Jucatothen you have to delete the ~/.wine directory to completely remove it12:25
whateverJucato: K thanks a lot12:25
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jojo930hi all12:28
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whateverIs it possible to force aptitude/apt-get to  install old version of an app without editing sources?12:39
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whateverold version being already downloaded or present in cds12:40
Martijn81whatever: might be with apt pinning, i never done it though12:40
aliasfredi dont remember the option but yes this is possible12:40
aliasfredyou may look at the last xorg hickup for example12:41
whateveraliasfred: K  will try12:41
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TheGateKeeperwhere are all the deamons started on bootup please folks?12:41
whateverJucato: removing .wine worked thanks again!12:42
Jucatowhatever: no problem. glad I could help12:42
whateverTheGateKeeper: /etc/init.d12:42
TheGateKeeperthanx whatever :-)12:42
aliasfredA specific version of a package can be selected for installation by following the package name with an equals and the version of the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected for install. Alternatively a specific distribution can be selected by following the package name with a slash and the version of the distribution or the Archive name (stable, testing, unstable). <- from apt-get mane page, whatever12:42
Jucatoheheh! that doesn't sound right... "thanks whatever..."12:42
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whateverTheGateKeeper: or if you want to start your own ~/kde/Autostart/12:43
aliasfredwhatever: some issue with a bogus package of xorg which produced issue so there are page explaining how to downgrade the package12:43
JucatoTheGateKeeper: you could also use the System Service GUI if you need to. System Settings > System Services12:43
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whateveraliasfred: Ok12:44
TheGateKeeperJucato: whatever I was just having a little play with Arch and wanted to see what kubuntu did :-)12:44
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aliasfredwhatever: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 <- the command line to downgrabe12:45
Jucatoaliasfred: would you know what the "1:" part means?12:45
aliasfredwhatever: up to you to find out the version number of the version you want12:45
Jucatothe version, AFAIK is just "1.0.2-0ubuntu10"12:45
aliasfredJucato: nope :)12:45
fdovingJucato: it's branch.12:46
Jucatofdoving: oh12:46
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fdovingJucato: kde is at 4:12:47
Jucatook thanks! I was just curious :-D12:47
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bobbinHello? Is it possible to run apps without the GUI, so that dcop can be used to execute specific bits of it in the background?12:49
JucatoI think most GUI apps need X to run. unless they have an option to run without X, like VLC12:50
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aliasfredbobbin: when you say 'without gui', you mean without opening the window or without launching X at all ?12:54
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bobbinaliasfred: I mean from using a KDE app in KDE but without having the window come up. Specifically, to automate use of the titlebars' context menus' "To Desktop" entry.12:56
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Jucatobobbin: you can use dcop even when  there's a GUI12:57
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RawSewagewhats the KDE window manager called12:58
bobbinJucato: Yes, but I don't want to see the GUI or have it use CPU time to display; I just want the insides.12:58
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imbrandonJucato: the 1: is the epoc it will work either way12:59
Jucatowell, basically you can't have KWin running without X, AFAIK12:59
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Australite``hi every one12:59
Jucatoimbrandon: ehehe! thanks!  I was wondering about that for some time :-D12:59
aliasfredbobbin: you likely can prevent the window to appears, as of not taking cpu it is another thing. for those specific question, you will likely find more help on #kde-devel12:59
Australite``i am back12:59
Australite``ok to install amsn do i have to have it on my computer ?01:00
Australite``any one here ?01:00
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aliasfredAustralite``: well to install a software implies to have it on your computer01:01
bobbinJucato, aliasfred: X is running, it's just the one app I don't want to see. "dcop kwin" doesn't clue me in much from the command line. I'll try my luck on kde-devel then, too.01:01
Australite``aliasfred:  for some reason i cant install amn on my computer !!!01:01
Jucatobobbin: if you're looking for dcop commands, you can try using KDCOP01:01
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bobbinJucato: I tried. I didn't find what I think I need so then I asked in here. :)01:02
Jucatobobbin: you need a dcop command to make a window switch to a specific desktop?01:03
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jimmy_how do i put home n trash icons on kubu desktop?01:14
Jucatojimmy_: right click on the desktop, choose Create New > Link to URL. then in the "Enter link to location (URL):" type in "trash:/" (without the quotes). give it a name, then click OK01:15
jimmy_Jucato: thx:) anyway to put home on desktop too?01:15
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Jucatosame procedure, this time, put "~/" instead of trash:/01:16
bobbinJucato: yep01:17
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jimmy_Jucato: thankies!01:19
waylandbilljimmy_: you may want the "system:/" link instead. Home, Trash, and others are accessible through there.01:20
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Australite``hi there i am back :)01:24
jimmy_waylandbill: dats already in the panel...but thx01:24
waylandbilljimmy_: not a problem.01:25
jimmy_i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???01:25
lupine_so prefix sudo before the eject command01:26
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Jucatojimmy_: try right-clicking on the CD icon in Konqueror media:/01:26
jimmy_lupine_85: isnt there a way to just rightclick on it and click unmount/eject?01:26
Jucatojimmy_: there is. in the System Menu, choose Storage Media01:27
lupine_85usually, yes. How did you mount it to begin with?01:27
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Jucatothen right-click on the CD icon (it will usually be a gold CD), then select Eject01:27
jimmy_Jucato: same result dude01:27
jimmy_Jucato: i did that...it says the same thing..01:27
lupine_85also, the relavant line in your fstab should look like this:- /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:27
lupine_85note the user01:27
lupine_85if root mounts it, only root can unmount it01:28
lupine_85if you mount it through konq., then it should be mounted as a user01:28
lupine_85...meaning you can unmount it as a user, as well :)01:28
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jimmy_i'll see if things get back to normal on restart...01:29
the-ermWhat's wrong?01:29
the-ermI just came in.01:29
jimmy_i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???01:30
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the-ermoh well have you tried sudo eject -r01:31
the-ermI guess it would be sudo.01:31
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lupine_85via the gui ;)01:31
longbeanjimmy_: how did it get mounted in the first place? or did you just put the CD in and it was available?01:32
the-ermI'm pretty sure you've tried right-clicking the desktop icon, and ejecting it that way.01:32
amachujimmy_: sudo should work01:32
jimmy_longbean: i asked kde to open it in new window01:32
jimmy_the-erm: yes i did that!!01:32
Martijn81Jimmy: check if there's no konqueror opened at that location01:32
the-ermThat's weird.01:32
jimmy_the-erm: i hope things will be ok on restart..?01:33
longbeanjimmy_: it sounds like your /etc/fstab file isn't configured quite right01:33
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jimmy_lemme restart....:)01:34
longbeanjimmy_: anyway, to get the CD out *now*, command line is probably your only option01:34
jimmy_longbean: thx...everyone else too:)01:34
the-ermIn all honesty ... restart does seem like the only option.01:35
longbeanwhat is this "i'll see if rebooting fixes things" attitude? this isn't Microsoft01:35
the-ermSometimes ....01:35
the-ermI've never really had a problem with ejecting myself.01:36
Jucatohow about manually unmounting the partition, modifying the fstab entry, the mounting it again?01:36
longbeanthe command line option would've worked01:36
the-ermUsually it's a right click.01:36
longbeani think he was just scared to go there01:36
the-ermIf it were a cd, I don't see any damage in doing that Jucato01:37
the-ermI can see it being a problem if you're using an actual partition.01:37
the-ermThen you would need to reboot ...01:37
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the-ermUnless it wasn't being used.01:37
the-ermIn all honesty I don't do enough with the fstab to be rated much more than a beginner.01:38
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arkygeekhi all01:48
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fabian2dehey guys... does anybody know, where to get gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad for kubuntu 6.10? I cannot find it in any repository01:49
Jucatofabian2de: 6.10? you're using Edgy?01:50
Jucatofabian2de: it will probably be where it always is: multiverse01:50
fabian2deJucato: sorry, I meant 6.0601:51
Jucatofabian2de: i can't seem to see a "mad" plugin. what are you trying to do, btw?01:52
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vampiertjecan somebody help me in kubuntu?01:53
vampiertjei download it and it comes in in 15 min01:53
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fabian2deJucato: I try to install amarok with moodbar support and therefor I need gstreamer including mp3-support... and in the amarokchannel was said to me, that I need gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad to do so01:53
vampiertjecan somebody tells me what i must do to install something?01:53
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Jucatofabian2de: I don't think we have that package. did you tell them that amarok uses xine in Kubuntu, not GStreamer?01:54
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fabian2dewell, amarok may use what it want to use, but the moodbar executable need gestreamer01:55
longbeanvampiertje: install what? a program? the actual kubuntu system?01:55
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vampiertjei used ubuntu once01:55
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vampiertjethat was a mess01:56
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vampiertjeand i want to try kubuntu now01:56
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vampiertjecoose my win98 is lagging01:56
longbeanvampiertje: what was the problem with ubuntu?01:56
vampiertjei didnt installed everything cooze it every times asked for a su01:57
the-ermIt's also getting harder to get software to work in 98.01:57
the-ermM$ doesn't support it any more.01:57
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vampiertjeand my grub loader was stuck01:57
vampiertjewhen it was starting after install it didnt moved anything01:57
the-ermSo you had to manually select what os you wanted tor un?01:58
longbeanvampiertje: kubuntu's set up to use "su" as well01:58
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vampiertjenice, but ubuntu dont uses a su or am i wrong01:59
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the-ermwell ... what you can do is sudo su passwd01:59
the-ermand then change it.01:59
vampiertjebut whats a sudo01:59
the-ermrun as root.01:59
vampiertjecan you explain it01:59
waylandbillactually Kubuntu is set up to use sudo. You can't su to root until you set the root password.01:59
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:59
vampiertjeso i need to set a root pass02:00
the-ermyes via sudo02:00
vampiertjei will try it02:00
aliasfredwhat is the window name for  'root/superuser' ? 'administrator' ?02:00
the-ermI think it can be anyone in xp.  Just have them flagged as an admin when you create their account.02:01
the-ermBut I don't run xp.02:01
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longbeanhas anyone tried to upgrade to Amarok1.4.2 on dapper yet? any gotchas I should look out for?02:03
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the-ermsorry I don't run amarok02:05
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Martijn81oh boy, now my sound is f_cked02:14
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Martijn81thank you vmware!02:15
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lupine_85longbean: it switches to xine for plugins. that's it, really02:16
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longbeanlupine_85: thanks. i'll fight through that somehow :P02:17
lupine_85it's really good, actually. even installs needed plugins automagically02:17
redondo81Hi guys, I have a problem with firefox and jre,I installed jre but firefox doesn't see it,it ask me to install plugins, how can I do to configure it?02:17
lupine_85just put the .so file into the firefox plugins directory02:18
lupine_85IIRC, java installs into mozilla, where firefox doesn't see it02:18
redondo81and where I can find the .so file?02:18
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lupine_85not sure -  I don't have it installed02:19
lupine_85probably /usr/lib/mozilla or something similar02:20
redondo81I search it02:20
lupine_85it needs to be in either ~/.firefox/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins02:20
Martijn81anyone have an idea what this "watter sound" and lower volume can be after installation of vmware? (i have removed it already, but the horror is still present)02:20
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redondo81I have 2 folder one called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox, but I cannot find another folder with only mozilla02:27
redondo81I dont know how to find the .so file to put in the firefox folder02:28
longbeanredondo81: you're looking under /usr/lib?02:29
redondo81yes and I have 2 folder ona called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox only02:30
redondo81they seem to be the same02:30
RawSewageit's  .mozilla02:30
RawSewagein home folder02:30
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LeeJunFanman, I've got the worst luck getting storage devices to work with firewire.02:31
RawSewage /.mozilla02:31
RawSewagewhats a .so file02:31
redondo81there isnt a mozilla folder in my home02:32
RawSewagedot mozilla02:32
redondo81a .so file is the file to install the plugins in firefox02:32
RawSewageit's hidden02:32
redondo81how can I do to visualize it?02:32
RawSewagealt+ v+ h02:33
redondo81ok ok, I find it02:33
redondo81and now what do I have to do?02:33
RawSewagewhy are you doing it that way02:33
RawSewageyou install plugins thru FF itself02:33
longbeanRawSewage: java plugin. slightly more complex02:33
redondo81I install jre, but firefox doesn't see it, it ask me to download the plugins02:34
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RawSewageyou dont do what youre doing02:34
RawSewageIve done Java with FF before, and I never opened the FF folders02:34
RawSewagejust a second02:34
longbeanredondo81: copy it to the folder /usr/lib/firefox/plugins02:35
longbeanredondo81: you'll have to use sudo to do it02:35
RawSewagesudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin02:35
RawSewagesudo update-alternatives --config java02:35
RawSewagedo those 2 lines02:35
longbeanRawSewage: he's nearly there through this method i think02:36
redondo81ok, I try the RawSewage trick02:36
longbeantoo many different ways of doing exactly the same things sometimes02:36
RawSewagethats what Linux is all about02:36
RawSewageI dont think he has the correct version of Java02:37
longbeaninformed choice is good02:37
RawSewageI dont know02:37
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RawSewageI hate Java02:37
RawSewageI think it harkens back to the days when it killed my computer02:37
RawSewageback in the 90s02:37
longbeanjava's way overrated imho. but it has its uses02:38
RawSewageit slowed my computer and I'd always have to reboot when encountering a page with Java02:38
redondo81great, all works now, thank you very much02:38
RawSewageboomakr this page02:38
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RawSewageI need to learn Python02:39
longbeanthe java fanboys say that JVM speeds have increased considerably in the latest releases02:39
RawSewagepeople seem to love that language02:39
RawSewageit will speed up even more once it's open source02:39
longbeani'm not much of a programmer.02:39
turjanexcuse me, why will be the jvm faster when it becomes OpenSource?02:40
redondo81Remain only a small problem, the applet is not completly visualize because appears yet the firefor request to install the java plugins02:41
redondo81no no, i reloaded the page and now work perfectl02:41
longbeanredondo81: good02:41
RawSewageturjan, because users and the whole world will be able to work on the code02:41
RawSewagenot just a handful of paid employees02:41
RawSewagethat my theory02:42
redondo81I wanted to visualize the formula1 applet to see the qualification time live :)02:42
redondo81I'm a fan of Ferrari:)02:42
turjanrawsewage, the code is available since 2003 or so. The license is not called open source because it does not permit call java any derivative work02:43
RawSewageit will be soon though, right02:43
longbeanSun is lukewarm on open source02:44
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RawSewagelol  Sun is lukewarm02:45
RawSewagesorry I just woke up02:45
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bugunu_hi, does anyone know how to fix 'nv' driver for X so it won't snow ? :)02:48
lupine_85use the 'nvidia' one instead?02:49
lupine_85or 'vesa'02:49
bugunu_well err, for some reason even though nvidia-glx is installed as a package, it won't load02:50
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bugunu_sudo modprobe nvidia => FATAL: Module nvidia not found. (not even this, not X either)02:50
lupine_85I think you need to install the appropriate linux-restricted-modules package as well?02:51
longbeanno nvidia kernel driver? odd. but should be installlable easily enough02:51
lupine_85nvidia-glx is the programs, IIRC02:51
bugunu_lupine_85: that's installed too02:51
longbeaninstallable even02:51
bugunu_i did run nvidia-glx-config to modif xorg.conf02:51
lupine_85have you ran depmod -a and ldconfig ?02:52
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bugunu_longbean: how to install nvidia kernel driver? :)02:52
Dannilionarg, I've lost all sound for Amarok again02:52
bugunu_lupine_85:  depmod -a yes but not yet ldconfig; doing it now02:52
longbeanbugunu_: i don't remember the package-name offhand...02:52
lupine_85and is the .ko file actually present? (find /lib -name nvidia.ko)02:52
bugunu_lupine_85: it is not :D02:53
lupine_85(I get /lib/modules/ but I'm not running a bog-standard Ubuntu ;) )02:53
RawSewagesudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common02:53
RawSewagesudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:53
bugunu_wait, it is /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko02:53
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lupine_85ok, try "sudo insmod  /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko"02:53
RawSewageI just told you02:54
bugunu_RawSewage: have all that thank you ;)02:54
ubotunvidia-kernel-common: NVIDIA binary kernel module common files. In component restricted, is optional. Version 20051028+1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 112 kB02:54
bugunu_Invalid module format02:54
lupine_85*another* repository?02:54
RawSewageare you sure you did exactly what I posted02:54
bugunu_oh yeah, btw, that kernel is the previous version :-"02:54
RawSewagebecause thats how you do it02:54
bugunu_RawSewage: pretty sure yes02:55
longbeanbugunu_: bingo. upgrade your modules i think02:55
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bugunu_RawSewage: I even did them again when u said it02:55
RawSewagecopied and pasted?02:55
bugunu_longbean: ok, i'll try update then upgrade02:55
RawSewagesudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common02:55
RawSewagesudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:55
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matrixhi guys02:55
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RawSewageafter you do that, you have to change  'nv' in xorg.conf to 'nvidia'02:56
bugunu_longbean: hmm, nothing upgraded02:56
lupine_85RS: yes02:56
RawSewageand maybe reboot02:56
lupine_85d'oh, sorry02:56
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longbeanbugunu_: what kernel version are you running and what kernel version is that nvidia module for?02:56
lupine_85no need to reboot, though02:56
bugunu_RawSewage: yes, copy/pasted :) ie. first cmd already had them installed, and second one i guess modified xorg.conf but said nothing02:56
matrixi have installed the openoffice language pack but still i can't get use the german dictonary. is this the correct package? or does oo use ispel dicts?02:57
lupine_85ok, just depmod again, then try to modprobe nvidia02:57
lupine_85if that works, you can ctrl+alt+bkspace02:57
lupine_85(assuming you're running these commands in an x terminal, of course)02:57
bugunu_RawSewage: yes, it is nvidia in xorg.conf but X says smth about nvidia module not found aborting on several lines02:58
RawSewageit's a kernel02:58
RawSewagedont kernels require reboot02:58
bugunu_longbean: Linux asystem 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT02:58
lupine_85it's just a kernel module02:59
lupine_85you can load and unload them into a running kernel no problems02:59
Jucato(was the porper linux-restricted-modules installed?)02:59
lupine_85but with ubuntu, rebooting is easier than shutting down the x server02:59
lupine_85'cos it annoyingly restarts itself02:59
matrixis there a default keyboard shortcut in kde to switch to the desktop and back?02:59
lupine_85back to where?03:00
Jucatovirtual desktops?03:00
RawSewageno, to show the desktop03:00
bugunu_RawSewage: apparently nvidia-glx doesn't install any file in /lib/modules... nvidia.ko one - nope03:00
matrixno to my desktop, like when you click the symbol for your desktop but without using the mouse03:00
lupine_85can you assign a hotkey to the applet?03:00
RawSewageJucato, cool03:01
lupine_85or that works :)03:01
matrixoh great thanks03:01
RawSewageI wanted to know that too03:01
bugunu_RawSewage: well not if it's just a module installed;hmm maybe i should just reinstall my current kernel(+modules)03:01
matrixis there a list with default shortcut in kde ?03:01
RawSewagebugunu_, oh well dont listen to me03:01
RawSewageIm new03:01
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krauthow do i unlock the screen of a locked liveinstall desktop?03:02
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Jucatomatrix: yep. System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts03:02
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bugunu_RawSewage: np, im new too ;) who isn't :D let's party lolz03:02
lupine_85something is missing. I'm certain that the nvidia.ko module should be in linux-restricted-modules03:02
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Jucatomatrix: but whatever you do, DO NOT click on the Command Shortcuts tab there... it's gonna make System Settings crash03:03
bugunu_lupine_85: i've even reinstalled linux-restricted-modules03:03
lupine_85it's not in nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-glx03:03
longbeanhunh. my system says that nvidiafb.ko is a part of the linux-image package.03:03
lupine_85you don't want that ;)03:03
lupine_85it conflicts with nvidia's driver03:03
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Jucatomake sure that the version of linux-restricted-modules matches the linux-image version03:03
lupine_85source of extreme anguish03:03
RawSewagebugunu_, lol03:04
lupine_85mm, you might only have the -23 version installed03:04
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bugunu_lupine_85: oh wait, i have it now :-" the linux-restricted-modules for kernel 2.6.15-23 were installed automaticly but not for 2.6.15-26 which i'm using; my bad i guess03:04
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utabhey guys how to view WMV files, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs says it works for all except wmv03:04
matrixJucato: atleast switching forth and back between the command shortcuts tab and the shortcut schemes tab doesn't break anything here03:04
bugunu_lupine_85: thanks ;)03:04
Jazonis it unusual for my ram to be at about 40% and my swap also around 300mb???  I have over a gig of ram03:04
larson9999hmmm, i'm using thunderbird and noticed something that seems to not work the way you'd want.  i created an email and tried to send it all while i was disconnected from the net.  i got an error message that the email couldn't be sent but the email itself seems to have disappeared.  does that sound right or am i on crack?03:05
Jucatomatrix: ehehe yeah.. buggy ain't it?03:05
lupine_85utab: w32codecs works for all except encrypted (and wmv9?) files03:05
bugunu_and sorry (all) for all the trouble - one problem solved ;)03:05
matrixJucato: i can't see any bug here. but i don't want to stress it either :)03:05
lupine_85larson9999: Is it in your Sent? Drafts?03:05
utablupine_85 how to get them03:05
yannuxhye everybody03:05
longbeanbugunu_: np, it was educational03:05
lupine_85use the plf repos03:05
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yannuxdoes anyone already setup pureftpd with postgresql ?03:05
lupine_85be aware that if you're in the US then you'll be doing something illegal ;)03:05
larson9999bugunu_: the .26 version is in another repository.03:06
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Jucatobugunu_: to be able to install the -26 linux-restricted-modules, make sure that the "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main" has "restricted" included03:06
utablupine_85 they are not supported and may break the system or once happended to me03:06
matrixso now i need to figure out how i can make use of my additional dictionaries in oo. i have installed german, ispell, aspell and the german language pack for oo but can't choose the dictonary when i use spellcheck.03:06
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matrixhas anybody setup different dicts in oo before?03:06
vampiertjeive got kubuntu now03:06
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matrixvampiertje: grats, have fun with it03:07
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larson9999Jucato: i wonder why that isn't spelled out more prominately?  it seems to be the number 1 reason kernel upgrades with nvidia cards "don't work"03:07
Jucatolarson9999: I think it is fixed in the 6.06.1 installers. I'm not sure though. So far, no one has been able to give me an answer to that same  question03:08
Jucatoother than a possible error/bug03:08
lupine_85suppose .deb isn't smart enough to realise that updating linux-image to -26 means that you need to update linux-restricted-modules to -26 as well, if installed03:08
Jucatoutab: just download the w32codec .deb file from here: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/03:08
lupine_85conditional dependencies--03:08
Jucatolupine_85: actually that's not the problem.03:09
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lupine_85so what is?03:09
larson9999yeah, but it would seem that even in the 'help places' it would be spelled out more.03:09
Jucatolupine_85: the problem is that the newer linux-image resides in the main section of dapper-security. while the newer linux-restricted-modules reside in the restricted section of dapper-security03:09
lupine_85ah, got you03:09
lupine_85and of course, dapper-security restricted isnt' enabled by default03:10
Jucatoit seems so, at least in the 6.06 installers03:10
Jucatobut restricted is not only not enabled, it's also not in the sources.list03:10
larson9999Jucato: yeah but lupine_85 is correct too because if that dependency were set, you'd get an error message that the other stuff couldn't be installed because one of the packages couldn't be installed03:10
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Jucatolarson9999: but linux-image is not dependent on linux-restricted-modules, is it?03:11
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josh__whats up people? got a problem with my network config ( i think). i cant traceroute anything03:12
larson9999Jucato: right.  but i thought that's what lupine_85 was saying that maybe it should be if you have  linux-restricted-modules installed.  that kinda dependency seems hard to deal with though03:12
josh__i just tried from the windows side and it works fine03:12
josh__my iptables are set to accept, my router doesn't block icmp03:12
josh__i dont know where to start looking for the trouble... any ideas?03:13
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Jucatolarson9999: it would work only if linux-image was dependent on linux-restricted modules. if that were the case, the package manager would detect that one of the dependencies (linux-restricted-modules) does not match the package being upgraded (linux-image).03:13
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lupine_85 larson9999: i was mistaken. If dapper-security restricted was enabled by default, apt would pick up the update to linux-restricted at the same time as it picked u pthe update to linux-image03:14
lupine_85hence, conditional dependency not required03:14
josh__any ideas?03:15
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larson9999Jucato: right and that seems like something you wouldn't want to do but if the conditional dependency could be set up it would catch this, too.03:15
JucatoIt just might be the reason why some recommend that you install the linux-<insert architecture here) meta-package instead03:15
larson9999lupine_85: but i don't think security will every be enabled by default.  isn't that the reason it's called 'security'?03:15
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aliasfredjosh__: window on the same box does traceroute ok ?03:16
srdjantwhat's this in /topic about broken X?03:16
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lupine_85security *should* be enabled by default03:16
larson9999anyway, it just seems to me that when the upgrade fails and you go searching for why, this reason doesn't POP out in the search results like it would seem like it should03:16
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aliasfredjosh__: 'iptables -L' gives you some results ?03:17
lupine_85srdjant: update to xorg-xserver-core-10.3 (or something like that) broke X03:17
lupine_8510.4 (the current) fixed it03:17
Jucatolarson9999: I try to mention it as much as I can in the forums03:17
larson9999lupine_85: oh, i got it backwards? i thought security was for things that weren't safe.03:17
josh__yeah, all accepted03:17
srdjantlupine_85: thanks.03:17
longbeanjosh__: does "traceroute -I" work?03:17
lupine_85security is patches to fix unsafe things :)03:17
Jucatoand I think that the new installers have already been fixed03:17
josh__and i dont have a firewall (firestarter) or anything else03:17
aliasfredjosh__: you mean you got a firewall ?03:17
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aliasfredah ok03:17
larson9999lupine_85: there i go getting things backwards again03:17
josh__traceroute -l doesn't work either03:18
srdjantalso why does /etc/sudoers have root    ALL=(ALL) ALL ? I read in linux format that this is a bit insecure...03:18
josh__no, i have no firewall installed03:18
aliasfredjosh__: hmm 'traceroute -n google.com'03:18
josh__i tried traceroute -n www.yahoo.com03:18
aliasfredand ?03:19
ubuntuhi all03:19
josh__nothing happened (by nothing i mean everything timed out * * *)03:19
Jucatolarson9999: I think this is just a pure human error. I do not recall seeing this in Breezy03:19
aliasfredhmm real weird03:19
whizz-when i updated xserver-xorg-core a few days back, i couldn't boot into the gui anymore... has this issue been resolved already?03:19
josh__yeah, confusing me too03:19
Jucatowhizz-: yes03:19
aliasfredjosh__: 'traceroute localhost'03:19
whizz-Jucato: ok, thx03:19
josh__i cant think of anything that would block me off the top of my head :(03:19
Jucatothe latest xserver-xorg-core upgrade should be the fixed package03:19
larson9999Jucato: that makes sense because if that's where the security fixes go, you'd want it enabled by default for sure.03:19
josh__that worked03:19
josh__traceroute localhost provided a response...03:20
aliasfredjosh__: ok now try the first router you got. like asdl modem or such03:20
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vampiertjeit works!03:20
ubuntuHow can i change the language (menu etc( of kubuntu03:20
vampiertjebut now its time to set an sudo03:20
srdjantwhat's new in xserver-xorg-core 10.4?03:20
Jucatolarson9999: yes. except that if you install without an active/enable internet connection, all repositories are disable by default. But again, the issue wasn't really about dapper-security being disabled, but about the missing "restricted" component in that line.03:20
josh__traced to router03:20
aliasfredjosh__: ok you got its ip ? you can get it from 'ip route'03:20
Jucatosrdjant: yes03:21
josh__yeah it made it to the router03:21
Mick7excuse me..opensuse exist also for amd64?03:21
aliasfredjosh__: hmm but nothing beyond this router ?03:21
srdjantJucato: 'yes' in response to which question?03:21
josh__which is odd i think03:21
aliasfredjosh__: but window works from the same box03:22
josh__because windows sucks but it can get out fine... :(03:22
aliasfredjosh__: am lost :)03:22
longbeanubuntu: there should be a "regional and accessibility" section in the control panel03:22
Jucatosrdjant: lol. sorry. I was meant to say xserver-xorg-core version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.403:22
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aliasfredjosh__: all i can see if window doing upnp to the router03:22
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aliasfredjosh__: but i would be surprised :)03:22
srdjantJucato: I was asking what's new in that version.....03:22
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Mick7opensuse for amd64????03:22
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darkdevilMick7: have you tried joining #suse or #opensuse and asking there?03:23
srdjantMick7: what's opensuse got to do with this channel?03:23
Mick7no no excuse me03:23
Mick7i want to say03:23
Mick7openoffice :)03:23
Mick7openoffice for amd64?03:23
srdjantyou could compile it :P03:24
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darkdevillol, takes forever, but u cud03:24
josh__what port does traceroute use?03:25
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darkdeviloutbound port? not a clue03:26
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josh__well it wouldn't matter anyway cuz im the dmz03:26
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lupine_85depends on the traceroute :)03:27
lupine_85have you tried tcptraceroute?03:27
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lupine_85is normal internet working?03:27
longbeanmanpage for traceroute says the default base port is UDP port 33434. you can change it with "-p"03:27
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lupine_85OK, the problem then is likely that *nix and windows uses different traceroute methods03:27
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lupine_85you can have UDP, ICMP OR TCP03:28
lupine_85Your router could well be dropping ICMP (many do) by defaulty03:28
josh__im actually ssh'ed to my home computer and from home back to here...03:28
lupine_85fun :)03:28
josh__really... hmm... lemme check the router settings one more time03:28
lupine_85try installing tcptraceroute and doing a trace with that03:28
srdjantdoesn't traceroute use ICMP by default03:29
lupine_85not sure03:29
lupine_85but if it does, that's likely the problem03:29
josh__tcptraceroute dont work either...03:29
longbeantraceroute sends out UDP packets with a ttl designed to return an "ICMP error exceeded" error message from hosts03:30
Jucatodoes anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?03:30
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aliasfredif it works with window on the same box, the router conf is find03:30
longbeanthat's the linux default anyway03:30
srdjantoh wait, I think I was wrong - it just changes the TTL and then waits for the ICMP messages back from routers and gateways.03:30
lupine_85ok, windows is ICMP, linux is UDP (by default)03:31
lupine_85which is opposite to what I was thinking03:31
josh__but my router doesn't block udp03:31
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josh__andi am set as dmzhost03:31
aliasfredjosh__: does ping works ok ?03:31
josh__it blocks nothing to my comp03:31
josh__yes ping works fine03:31
josh__ok linux uses udp...?03:32
josh__i thought udp was for multicast03:32
lupine_85no :)03:32
lupine_85udp is an alternative to tcp03:32
josh__or broadcasting rather03:32
lupine_85they both run over ip03:32
lupine_85udp is stateless, tcp isn't03:32
srdjantudp can do broadcast03:33
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aliasfredudp is the most mistunderstood protocol, even if it is so trivial :)03:33
josh__yeah but i was under the inpression that udp doesn't need responses.... it just sends..?03:33
lupine_85so can tcp03:33
lupine_85josh: yes03:33
lupine_85there's no guarantee of a response03:33
lupine_85do you want me to try and traceroute the box?03:34
lupine_85or is the IP a secret? ;)03:34
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josh__lol well i would rather not braodcast it in here... lemme register real quick03:34
garethWondering if anyone can help me work out something about katapult?03:34
josh__how do i do that again? lol its been a few years03:34
Jucatogareth: what about it?03:34
Jucatojosh__: /msg nickserv register ?03:35
josh__thanks :)03:35
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garethIt's supposed to be able to launch a song in amarok, but when i try it i get this error from amarok "03:35
garethError Loading Media03:35
garethNo suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported.03:35
gareth./home/gareth/Music/Avenged Sevenfold - (2003) - Waking The Fallen/12-avenged_sevenfold-and_all_things_will_end-ph.mp303:35
josh__how do i change my name?03:35
lupine_85  /nick03:35
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j2daoshthere we go03:36
Jucatogareth: can you play MP3's normally, in Amarok, for example?03:36
j2daoshamarok needs mp3 support03:37
JucatoGarethMB: does this only happen to this particular song? or any MP3?03:37
GarethMBany mp3,03:37
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GarethMBbut only when i use katapult03:37
GarethMBi believe the problem is:03:37
j2daoshi use xms (winamp for linux) :)03:37
Jucatolet me try03:37
GarethMBthe url is exported with a . before it. which amarok can't handle. Could this be the case?03:37
JucatoGarethMB: that . shouldn't be there at all03:38
GarethMBOk, i thought as much03:38
GarethMBis there a way to tell katapult not to export the url with the ./home03:38
Jucatobut.. it also doesn't seem to work here03:38
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needanicknameis git available in kubuntu?03:39
aliasfredcan you cut/paste the url that amarok receive in this case, GarethMB03:39
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GarethMB./home/gareth/Music/B/Black Label Society/Mafia/15 - I Never Dreamed(Bonus Track).mp303:40
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aliasfredwell this is a bug :)03:40
Jucatoyep definitely a bug03:40
aliasfredin katapult i mean, as it depends on the current directory of the application03:40
GarethMBHmm, guess i need to check the kde bugzilla?03:40
aliasfredyep a bug in katapult03:40
CViruswhats katapult03:41
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:41
aliasfredor maybe amarok add this . in its dcop stuff03:42
GarethMBit can launch bookmarks, and it should launch music03:42
Jucatoprobably not amarok, coz it only accepts what Katapult would be throwing at it03:42
CVirusOMG ... katapult is freakin great03:43
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GarethMBit would be even better without this bug lol03:43
SeanTaterI cannot mount my camera: it says A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")03:43
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GarethMBhttp://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=katapult , here are the katapult bugs. Can someone check that its definitely not been reported before03:44
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vampiertjeoh no03:44
ninHerhi all03:44
vampiertjei stucked my adept03:44
vampiertjedoes anyone knows how to reset adept?03:44
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Jucatovampiertje: what were you trying to do and what happened?03:46
lupine_85as in, kill the process?03:46
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lupine_85or as in, reset the database03:46
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lupine_85(the former is 'sudo killall adept', the latter is - rightly - impossible)03:47
vampiertjei tried to add /home/wouter to adept03:47
vampiertjeand then it crashed03:47
j2daoshwhat is /home/wouter?03:48
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vampiertjethats a map in my pc03:48
lupine_85malformed repository? assuming that's what wouter is03:48
lupine_85adept really dislikes malformed repos03:48
GarethMBYou need to edit your sources file03:49
CViruscan katapult launch any file on my hard disk ? or mp3's only ?03:49
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GarethMBvampiertje sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
GarethMBand then delete the repository you added03:50
JucatoCVirus: it has 5 catalogs to search from, AFAIK: Programs, Amarok, Documents, BOokmarks, and Calculator03:50
GarethMBmake a backup first!03:50
Martijn81i thought it would be fun to let you know what solved my "under water sound" problem after the install of vmware03:51
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Martijn81i unplugged the mic of my sennheiser out of the pc, and all is fine again03:51
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Martijn81really weird, never had that03:52
GarethMBso this katapult bug, is this a good idea for a name for it: Katapult exports URL to Amarok with a period preceeding URL ?03:52
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robosobut there aren't italian chan????03:52
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:53
robosook thanks!03:53
aliasfredGarethMB: 'katapult exporting malformed url to amarok' ?03:53
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duncan_hello wguys!04:00
duncan_a question for all of you04:00
duncan_where can I change my mouse speed?04:00
lupine_85kcontrol ?04:00
duncan_thx lupine!04:01
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lupine_85"Pointer acceleration" is what you want04:01
lupine_85aka. the control panel04:01
duncan_where can I find that =(04:01
duncan_aaaah ok04:01
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duncan_system settings you mean04:02
lupine_85old habits die hard, etc :)04:02
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lupine_85then hardware->mouse->advanced04:02
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duncan_ok ok :)04:02
duncan_got it04:02
misieqpgadmin3 sez that my postgresql server (8.1.4, running on kubuntu) lacks instrumentation, what package contains that? i've read description of postgresql-contrib-8.1 but it ain't there04:03
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GarethMBHere is the katapult bug report. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133030 if you to vote for it.04:03
duncan_but everything is so big on04:03
duncan_wtf can't use key pada nymore:s04:03
duncan_numlock is on04:03
duncan_1024x768 , everything is so big in comparisson with microsoft04:04
charimsWill someone please help me with my sound problem, you can view the details here. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24401804:04
lupine_85linux apps just stretch out more04:04
duncan_yeah clearly ^04:04
duncan_In my opinion it is not as efficient04:05
lupine_85despite having the ability to have a 320x240 screen04:05
duncan_as microsoft04:05
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lupine_85you could try a virtual desktop?04:05
lupine_85say, 1600x120004:05
duncan_I can't go higher04:05
duncan_than 1024x76804:05
lupine_85the idea is, the desktop stays at 1024x76804:05
lupine_85but the screen area available is larger04:05
duncan_ah ok04:06
lupine_85so your screen is like a "window" to the true desktop04:06
duncan_ah cool04:06
lupine_85takes some getting used to though, because you can't see the whole screen04:06
duncan_yeah I had difficulty by setting up mp04:06
duncan_my numbers don't work anymore :s strange04:07
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lupine_85is numlock on? ;)04:07
duncan_when I press them04:07
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duncan_my pointer moves04:07
zerotime<zerotime> hi I am using kubuntu, and installed xgl and compiz, now I installed gnome-desktop and want to use xgl and compiz under gnome, Until now I had a xgl entry in kdm so xgl would load then kde, now I want that entry to load gnome04:07
zerotime<zerotime> how can I do it04:07
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lupine_85you accidentally turned on pointer movement-by-numpad04:08
lupine_85so go back into the mouse control panel and turn it off ;)04:08
lupine_85(last tab, IIRC)04:08
duncan_ok thx!04:08
duncan_yeah I just changed it04:08
duncan_lupine, can I have ur msn?04:08
duncan_for hel p in kubuntu04:08
lupine_85sorry, don't use msn04:08
lupine_85channel is usually best anyway04:08
lupine_85nope :)04:08
duncan_lolz xD04:09
duncan_so I download ndswrapper04:09
lupine_85IRC and usenet for me :)04:09
duncan_how do I install it after that?04:09
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lupine_85you need the windows drivers for your card04:10
lupine_85specifically the .inf and .sys files04:10
charimsyou can use the ndiswrapper package off your cd, much easier, and you don't have to compile it04:10
charimsyour kubuntu cd that is04:10
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duncan_I just put it in and it works04:10
duncan_seems easy04:10
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Jucatodoes anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?04:11
lupine_85never had it do that to me04:11
lupine_85and i've got some long logs ;04:11
lupine_85;) *04:11
Jucatoehehe thanks.04:11
fabian2dehey guys.... since I updated to kde 3.5.4 I cannot change the settings of my taskbar, because it is locked... how can I unlock it?04:11
charimshey, anyone able to help me with ym sound problem04:11
JucatoI was afraid that I might one day be surprised that my logs are a few days short...04:11
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Jucatofabian2de: right-click "Unlock Panels"?04:11
fabian2deJucato: well... then nothing happens04:12
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duncan_ffs can't open dvd drive:(04:12
fabian2deJucato: I read somithing about new config files in the forums but I didn't understood it04:12
duncan_lupinee :p you there?04:13
charimshey, pparently you have a connection to the interent from the computer that needs ndiswrapper, right?04:13
duncan_if you've got wifi04:13
duncan_that is04:13
charimsyou can also get the package for ndiswrapper04:13
charimsfrom the server04:14
GarethMBRighty, i'm off now. Thanks guys.04:14
charimsduncan, do you have a connection to the internet from the pc that needs ndiswrapper?04:14
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Jucatofabian2de: I'm not sure, I didn't have that problem. what happens when you right-click on the panel and select Unlock Panels?04:15
duncan_ok ok got it in04:16
duncan_lupine ;p04:16
duncan_I do not04:16
duncan_I just have UTP04:16
duncan_I gave up on ndswraper04:16
duncan_I'm trying it now04:16
charimsjust checking, good luck04:16
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duncan_I am totally new04:16
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duncan_to this04:16
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charimshaha, so am i04:16
charimsi installed ndiswrapper yesterday tho04:16
duncan_I'm so sick04:16
duncan_how did you install ndswrapper?04:17
fabian2deJucato: absolutely nothing... the menu disappers and the lock is even enabled04:17
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charimswell, just got the debian package off the cd, installed it, and then i did a few qucik konsole commands with my inf file04:17
bubukdeno sound with x-plane, who can help meeeeeeeeeeee04:17
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duncan_what commands did you do to install it?04:17
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charimsthere is a readme with ndiswrapper04:18
duncan_n the cd?04:18
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Jucatofabian2de: try this. go to ~/.kde/share/config/ and open up the file "kickerrc"04:18
charimsno readme on the cd tho04:19
charimsat least, i dont think there is04:19
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duncan_wher eis the readme than?04:19
lupine_85ndiswrapper -h should explain04:19
lupine_85or man ndiswrapper04:19
fabian2deJucato: okay04:19
charimslmemme see04:19
Jucatofabian2de: then look for a line that says "Locked=true" and set it to "Locked=false"04:19
Jucatofabian2de: save the file04:20
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duncan_I'm gonna download ndiswrapper04:20
fabian2deJucato: "Locked" is not in the file04:20
Jucatomaybe it's in another config file...04:21
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charimsduncan, i can send you the readme in just a sec04:21
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duncan_send it to me on msn?04:21
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duncan_Hi Fire04:22
fir3someone here using kubuntu on the macbook?04:22
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duncan_have you got a macbooK?04:23
fabian2deJucato: so, I killed kicker now an then I started it from the terminal, now when I click on "Unlock Panels" the followin appers in the Terminal:04:23
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duncan_why the hell what you want to use kubuntu on a macbook?04:23
fir3duckdown, yep04:23
duncan_os x = best04:23
fabian2deJucato: kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::writeConfig() kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::readConfig()04:23
Jucatofabian2de: did your upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 went without problems?04:24
MilhousePunkRockAnyone in here that remembers how I fought with Suspend to RAM on Kubuntu a while ago?04:24
fabian2deJucato: I think yes, nothing was said by aptitude, so I think nothing bad happened04:24
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Jucatofabian2de: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?04:24
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fabian2deJucato: upgrade, why?04:25
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charimsyup ;)04:25
Jucatofabian2de: did it say that it will remove kdelibs4-bin?04:25
charimsi can send you the whole package if you want to attempt a self-compile04:25
duncan_hubba bubba :p what color is my nick btw?04:25
j2daoshwho uses konversation in here?04:25
VincentMXi do04:25
Jucatoj2daosh: me too04:25
j2daoshhow do i setup the auto identify?04:25
j2daoshthe service is what?04:26
Jucatoj2daosh: try NickServ04:26
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fabian2deJucato: well... I don't know... its been a while since I upgraded.. maybe 3 or 4 days ago...04:26
j2daoshi did /msg nickserv04:26
charimshey, duncan, are you getting the file, or should i re-send04:26
VincentMXjust set your nickserv password as server password for freenode04:26
duncan_why doens't opera save my settings?04:26
lupine_85what version of konversation are you using?04:26
duncan_latest one?04:26
lupine_85there's a repo for nightly versions04:26
duncan_how do I save my settings in oprea04:27
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Jucatofabian2de: hmm...04:27
charimsno idea04:27
duncan_I always change zoom from 100 to 8004:27
duncan_and when I boot again04:27
lupine_850.19 has a memory leak and some other problems04:27
duncan_it's back to 10004:27
Jucatofabian2de: so is Kicker running now?04:27
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fabian2deJucato: yeah04:27
Jucatofabian2de: ok let's try this again... this time go to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ and look for kickerrc again04:28
charimshey, duncan, the file isnt transferring, maybe someone can help us, we both use konversation right?04:28
Jucatofabian2de: right-click on it, select Actions > Edit as Root04:28
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j2daoshwe good now :)04:28
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duncan_yeah I use konversation04:28
j2daoshnext question... who in here has used the gnome version of ubuntu?04:28
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Jucatome too, for about a few weeks04:29
duncan_it messed up my windows partition04:29
charimsi did for a while04:29
Jucatobtw, there is no GNOME version of Ubuntu :-D04:29
j2daoshok, are you aware of the gnome-art manager application?04:29
fabian2deJucato: okay, its open now04:29
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j2daoshJucato: ok... the gnome desktop version of uuntu04:29
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Jucatofabian2de: now look for a line again with Locked=true and turn it to false04:29
fabian2deJucato: there is no line showing "Locked" again04:30
Jucatofabian2de: how are you searching within Kate? Ctrl+F?04:30
j2daoshwell gnome-art was a package that would connect to the gnome servers and would install backgrounds, login splash screens, toolbars the whole nine... does kde have anything like that?04:30
Jucatoj2daosh: yes. but it's currently buggy at the moment04:30
fabian2dewell, I use `sudo joe`... and then ctrl+k+f04:30
j2daoshwhat is it?04:31
j2daoshill help find bugs :)04:31
Jucatoj2daosh: but only for certain "themes" like backgrounds, Kopete themes, etc.04:31
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j2daoshthats ok by me... i just wanna see some art :P04:32
j2daoshsome background/splash art, stuff like that04:32
Jucatoj2daosh: for example: right-click on the desktop > Configure Desktop > Background options04:32
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Jucatothere's a04:32
j2daoshyeah like that but i want the ones from the server04:32
JucatoGet New Wallpapers04:32
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j2daoshoh ok04:33
JucatoBUT... 2 tabs in that dialog box are disabled, KDE 3.5.4 Kubuntu bug...04:33
j2daoshlol looks like you found a nickname04:33
charimsi have a sound problem, will someone help me04:33
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j2daoshwhat tabs? all 3 of my tabs are operational..?04:33
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needanicknameyea.. kubuntu isnt letting me set the permissions to an ntfs file mount04:34
j2daoshneedanickname: u cant... it will mount as read only... well unless you want to experiment...04:34
Jucatofabian2de: when you search, make sure that you disable the "Case sensitive" option04:34
Jucatoj2daosh: the Most Downloads and Latest tabs04:34
needanicknamej2, it mounts as read only, but the only person who can read is root04:34
j2daoshboth of those are operational for me04:35
j2daoshu need to use the "users" option04:35
Jucatoj2daosh: try clicking on a theme and see if it's still operational04:35
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j2daoshahh... gotcha Jucato04:35
Nerevarso... it seems  i cant get most live linux cds running on my computer anymore04:35
Nerevarso far i have tried kubuntu and pclinuxos, both had the same result04:36
Nerevarit hangs at mounting file system04:36
charimsHey, Nerevar, u like Morrowind?04:36
Jucatofabian2de: try it again with the other kickerrc file, you might have searched for "locked" but with case sensitivity on, it won't find "Locked"04:36
Nerevaryeah, i am a huge morrowind fan.04:36
charimsi can tell ;)04:36
needanicknameif youre the nerevar, then i'm the grey fox :p04:37
NerevarYou n'wah! hehe\04:37
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fabian2deJucato: I solved it on my own now :) (I added "Locked=false" in the "General"-Section of ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and then I restarted kicker and it worked :) thanks alot!!)04:37
Jucatook glad you were able to solve it04:37
charimsif someone could help me with my sound rpoblem, i can give them specifics in dcc chat04:38
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Nerevarso i looked at the kubuntu forum - there are like 8 pges of people having the same problem as i04:38
needanickname.. i wanna listen to my music on my ntfs drive =(04:38
j2daoshneedanickname: this is what you need to do04:38
j2daoshsudo vim /etc/fstab04:39
Jucatoj2daosh: he might find nano easier...04:39
needanicknamei actually replaced vim with nano :o04:39
j2daoshex: /dev/hda2 /media/mountpoint user,auto,default (you may not need default with auto...) 0 004:40
j2daoshvims better04:40
j2daoshyall suck :P04:40
needanicknamei'm just lazy :p04:40
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Jucatoj2daosh: coz you know how to use it. consider the other person04:40
j2daoshme too... thats why i kept vim :)04:40
j2daoshyeah i know... different strokes for different folks04:40
Jucatoactually, I thought it was different strokes for different brushes?04:41
j2daoshlol im from GA04:41
j2daoshwe do things alittle different04:41
needanicknameAL here04:41
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Jucatolol.... I'm almost halfway around the world04:41
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j2daoshonce you have that entry in your fstab, save the file and then open a terminal and type mount04:42
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j2daoshor sudo mount04:42
j2daoshit should load it up04:42
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j2daoshif it dont, let me know ill copy my fstab entry04:42
charimsNo sound, i already followed the comprehensive sound problem solutions guide, here are some specifics.04:42
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charims nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)04:42
charims        Subsystem: FIRST INTERNATIONAL Computer Inc: Unknown device 927a04:42
j2daoshdid you change to alsa?04:43
needanicknameokay, i screwed with fstab.. i'm guessing that a restart is in order?04:43
j2daoshnevermind... diffed thing04:43
j2daoshnope nick04:43
charimschange what, i followed the instuctions for alsa04:43
j2daoshjust type in sudo mount04:43
lupine_85needanickname: not really04:43
JucatoWhen I first started using Linux, I always thought "fstab" meant F-Stab....04:43
lupine_85not mount -a ?04:43
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j2daoshyeah that one :P04:43
j2daoshsudo mount -a04:43
needanickname /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type ntfs (rw)04:43
needanicknameokay, i'll try that lol04:43
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j2daoshwhat the hell....04:44
j2daoshhow did i establish a connection?04:44
Jucatoj2daosh: by helping others in need....04:44
lupine_85erm... r/w ntfs?04:44
j2daoshno rw04:44
j2daoshunless you want to kill ntfs partition04:45
Jucatoer.. no W, but yes to R04:45
lupine_85not unless you're brave04:45
Jucatobrave or... um...04:45
needanicknamei heard that there was something floating around that could do ntfs alright in linux04:45
j2daoshu heard wrong04:45
j2daoshits very experimental04:45
lupine_85and not installed by default04:45
Jucatowell, it's stable for some, but not for mission-critical stuff04:45
lupine_85right now, I think the latest linux kernel (the one you don't have) can do r/w access in a few very limited situations04:46
lupine_85namely: editing a file already present, as long as the filesize doesn't change04:46
HawkwindLinux Britannia #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux04:46
HawkwindHeh, like that one :P04:46
Jucatohi Hawkwind!04:46
needanicknamenow, when i mounted my dvd drive, it gave everyone view permissions..04:46
HawkwindJucato: Good morning04:46
lupine_85bah, yours is more up to date than mine04:46
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lupine_852.6.17.9 is good enough04:47
Jucatolol! us mere mortals merely have 2.6.15-2604:47
Hawkwindlupine_85: I have a very easy how-to on my forums that takes less than an hour for me to build the new kernel.  It even builds .deb packs :)04:47
Jucatowhich *cough* forums *cough*04:47
HawkwindJucato: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.004:48
Healotmine a to
Jucatolol! I knew it :-D04:48
HawkwindJucato: Very simple to follow04:48
HawkwindHealot: No such kernel yet04:48
lupine_85I just do the standard make oldconfig; make menuconfig; make; make modules; make modules_instal; make install04:48
Nerevarwhy does my computer hate linux so much04:48
Healoti made it up04:48
lupine_85cba with .debs for a kernel04:48
Jucatoyeah.. but please clarify w/c forums. or should I presume that you always mean LFD? :-D04:48
Healoti know04:48
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Nerevarall i do is put the boot cd in and it won't start :x04:49
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lupine_85I can do mine in 1/2 hour ;)04:49
HawkwindJucato: That how-to is actually on the Kubuntu forums too.  I did post it there04:49
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Nerevarso far tried kubuntu and pclinuxos both never start04:49
needanicknamedid i not do something right, j2daosh?04:49
Jucatohm.. we really need to organize it... ^_^04:49
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j2daoshok hold on ill paste my fstab04:49
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j2daoshoh snap04:49
j2daoshforgot an option for ya lol04:50
j2daoshhere is what yours needs to look like04:50
j2daosh/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 004:50
j2daosh   104:50
KoMpLoTHi all!04:50
j2daoshthat 1 goes up on the other line04:50
needanicknamei'm gonna go try that :p04:50
j2daoshforgot all the nls umask stuff lol04:51
j2daoshleave the gid off (dont know what 46 is on your system04:51
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lupine_85oh, so xp is utf8 by default?04:51
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j2daoshsame with 200304:52
redondo81can anyone tell me how to create a key shortcut to lunch a program?04:52
j2daoshlol ill let someone else take this one :)04:53
needanicknameit worked04:53
lupine_85they're almost out of the dark ages, then...04:54
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Jucato[Away] redondo81: what do you mean?04:54
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j2daoshso your good now noname?04:55
redondo81I installed 3ddesktop and I want to lunch it pressing a button04:55
redondo81for example F1204:55
needanicknameyea, j2.. now i just need to google some other stuff :p04:55
Jucatoredondo81: go to System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Input Actions04:56
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Jucatoredondo81: create a New Action, give it a name04:57
Jucatofor the Action type, make it Keyboard Shortcut > Simple04:57
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needanicknameugh.. how recently have mx nicks been popping up?04:57
Jucatothen in the Keyboard Shortcut tab, click on the None button and press the keyboard shortcut you want to use04:58
redondo81ok, thanks done04:58
Jucatothen in the Command/URL Settings, enter the command or program name you want to be run04:58
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Jucatoredondo81: it will be useful for commands/programs that really don't have K Menu entries, like 3D Desktop04:58
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charimsLA Di DA DI da05:04
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needanicknameokay.. both amarok and kaffeine are gimpin on an mp3 file i just copied from my ntfs mount05:05
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ubuntuc'est encore franck05:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:06
Jucatoneedanickname: what do you mean by gimpin?05:06
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charimsoh, cool, french help05:06
needanicknamei click play, and it's automatically done playing05:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:06
arepiedem.. no malaysian help..05:06
charimsi ahve the same problem as need a nickname, but i don;'t have sound anyways right now....05:07
Jucatoneedanickname: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs"05:07
Jucatoit's found in the multiverse component of the repos05:07
JucatoNeed to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:07
j2daoshcharims: , your having that problem?!05:07
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j2daoshi thought charims had a problem with the actual card and not getting recognized by system...05:08
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j2daoshwell... lol thats one for the retard side05:08
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yanisIf you already have a 6.06 install just make sure your packages are up to date from dapper-updates05:08
yaniswhat is 'dapper-updates' ?05:09
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j2daoshupdates... for dapper....05:09
Healotthe name explains it05:09
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Healotnot every distro speak geek, yanis05:09
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yanisbut where can I find them?05:09
charimsj2daosh, that is a side problem05:09
Jucatolet's see if ubotu knows..05:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper-updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
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duncan_tar zxvf ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz05:09
charimsi don't get any sound whatsoever, but i knew i had to get the codecs once i got sound05:10
duncan_if I type that05:10
duncan_Iget errors05:10
duncan_I get errors05:10
j2daoshoh ok05:10
Jucatoj2daosh: be gentle...05:10
j2daoshlol sorry yanis05:10
grotheskWill there by a kernel update soon? 2.6.15-26-k7 does not play well with VIA Chipsets. 2.6.15-25-k7 runs far better on my computer.05:10
j2daoshcharims:  so you are having a system sound problem...? not a codec issue?05:10
yanisso, If I apt-get upgrade then I'll have these dapper-updates?05:10
charimsyes, i get no sound05:10
charimscodec issue is a side issue05:11
Jucatoyanis: no. dapper-updates is a repository in your sources.list05:11
j2daoshsudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade05:11
charimswhich i can fix later05:11
Jucatoj2daosh: that command is sooo way off05:11
yanisJucato: I have uncomment all the lines in my sources.list05:11
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j2daoshits been a minute05:11
yanisJucato: want do it automatically?05:11
needanicknamethanks, jucato05:11
j2daoshlemme try it :P05:11
charimsj2daosh have you figured anything out about my sound problem?05:12
Jucatoyanis: so the lines with "dapper-updates" are already uncommented?05:12
j2daoshstill using my google-fu on it charims05:12
charimskk, :)05:12
yanisyes Jucato05:13
Jucatoyanis: ok then. in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"05:13
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KoMpLoTHi would like to get some help with cups and kubuntu, I've already read the Known Problems in Dapper, but the problem here is that cups works, but when I print it will only print some colors05:14
KoMpLoTI have a Epson Stylus C63, the ink status are fine05:14
KoMpLoTwhat can I do?05:14
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j2daoshJucato: i wasn't off... that will do the dist-upgrade05:15
yanisJucato: I did.check this errol log I get every time I run apt-get ->  http://pastebin.ca/15013705:15
KoMpLoTI've already reinstalled cups, and also installed and reinstalled the printer drivers a lot of times with no luck05:15
arepiehey.. anyone installed atlantik (game) ??05:16
Jucatoj2daosh: apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade on the same line?05:16
Jucatoyanis: did you "sudo apt-get update" first?05:16
arepieHealot: yea05:16
yanisofcourse Jucato05:16
Healotinstalled by default, never played it :)05:16
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yanisJucato: btw I get this error since I installed kubuntu6.0605:17
j2daoshjust dist-upgrade... for the disupgrade... upgrade for updates and updates for updating apt-get db05:17
charimshey, j2daosh, i was just playing around with my mixer, im still not getting sound, but when i change the balance from left to right, i do get a slight hum from the speakers which switches as i switch the balnce in the micxer05:17
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Jucatoj2daosh: look at what you typed:  <j2daosh> sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade05:17
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j2daoshwell i screwed up05:17
Jucato @_@05:18
j2daoshand you are sure it is plugged in correctly?05:18
j2daoshthat sounds like plugs are switched...05:18
charimsnope, plugged in right05:18
charimsi just don't get any sound playing on the channel05:18
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j2daoshok, check this out (might be right up your ally) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=15162205:18
Jucatoyanis: ok, I'm a bit clueless about this. first time I've encountered it, so I really don't know what else to say...05:18
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gernotdoes anybody use kde 3.5.4 on dapper?05:19
yanisJucato: ok05:19
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slougi_gernot: yes05:19
Jucatogernot: yes05:19
gernotwhat about your system:/ ioslave, does it work?05:19
j2daoshgive the third party ones a shot05:19
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gnomefreakgernot: yes but not at the moment05:19
j2daoshill keep looking05:19
slougi_gernot: seems to work for me05:20
needanicknameconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:20
Jucatogernot: yest05:20
gernotcause mine prints "an unknown error occured" as soon as I try to access an unmounted device like an usb stick05:20
gernotJucato: yours too?05:20
Jucatogernot: no, I meant that it works for me.. sorry...05:20
j2daoshneedanickname: sudo apt-get install build-essientials (or buildessientials... been awhile)05:20
gernotslougi_: yours too?05:21
Jucatomy problem is with media:/05:21
j2daoshthen try to config05:21
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Jucatobut why would you try to access an unmounted partition/device05:21
Hawkwindj2daosh: build-essential actually05:21
gernotso is mine, media gives the same results as system, when trying to acces the same device05:21
gernotJucato: in order to mount it ;-)05:21
Jucatogernot: don't you right-click it and choose mount?05:22
j2daoshlol had to be one of those05:22
Jucatogernot: also, isn't it supposed to automount?05:22
gernotJucato: usually I just click on it05:22
slougi_gernot: works for me05:22
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slougi_gernot: you could try running konq from a console and see if it spits out anything interesting when opening system:/05:23
slougi_be warned though, it is pretty verbose under the best circumstances...05:23
gernotslougi_: kde 3.5.4 from ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu dapper main ?05:23
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needanicknamecouldnt find either, j2daosh05:23
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Meherclelsb_release output comes from which file?05:23
slougi_gernot: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main05:24
JucatoMehercle: /etc/release, I think?05:24
Jucatonot really sure05:24
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:24
frasenAnybody from Italy???05:24
MehercleError: no such file "/etc/release"05:24
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:25
krautha, cool :)05:25
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ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:25
MehercleJucato: Error: no such file "/etc/release"05:25
JucatoMehercle: I said I wasn't sure.. sorry05:25
slougi_ /etc/lsb-release05:25
Jucatooh there, slougi_ got it05:26
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redondo81to visualize .avi file what I need?05:26
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Mehercleand to print this to my screen?05:26
sleeptyperwhy K3b fails every time i try to burn an image?05:26
Mehercle(damn commands....)05:26
slougiMehercle: cat?05:27
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slougior less05:27
slougior more05:27
JucatoMehercle: lsb_release -a seems to be more descriptive than the contents of that file...05:27
Meherclei know05:27
redondo81Anyone can tell me what I have to install to visualize .avi file?05:28
Meherclebut now i can replace Ubuntu with Kubuntu ;-)05:28
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slougiMehercle: that seems to print the exact same stuff05:28
gernotslougi_: Just a second, I'll post the error message05:28
longbeanredondo81: it's a video file. i'm not sure what the default player for kubuntu is. kaffeine?05:28
JucatoMehercle: err... you are using Ubuntu... but with KDE on top05:28
Jucatolongbean: correct05:28
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Meherclei know, i know05:28
Jucatoredondo81: it should be covered by the "llibxine-extracodecs" package05:29
frasentry this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:29
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redondo81but when I lunch it the audio ok, but video is off05:29
frasenand follow the iinstructions05:29
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MehercleDistributor ID: Kubuntu  :-)05:29
JucatoMehercle: um.... I think they really set it up that way for LSB (Linux Standard Base) compliance05:29
slougiMehercle: keep the distributor id as ubuntu05:29
Jucatoof course, it's your system, so...05:29
j2daoshu still here charims?05:29
charimsyeah, im here05:29
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slougiMehercle: even on a vanilla kubuntu installation it is ubuntu, as they are the same system just with a different desktop05:30
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Meherclei know05:30
charimsforcedeth is for my nforce lan, which doesnt support ubuntu, and i already did the modprobe snd-intel8x005:30
gernotslougi:kio (KIOJob): error 63 An unknown error occured05:30
frasenit will install all you need to play avi files and other useful things05:30
charimsbut i tried again, notihng05:30
Mehercleis it allowed to change /etc/issue ??05:31
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slougigernot: heh that does not say much... can you paste the whole output to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?05:31
slougiand then paste the link05:31
jontecI need to know where the debian packagees are for Kubuntu05:31
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MehercleJucato: is it allowed to change /etc/issue ??05:32
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slougijontec: which packages?05:32
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slougiMehercle: it is05:32
jontecall of them05:32
jontecthe ones that apt-get downloads05:32
jontecI don't need to install them05:33
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jontecI just don't want to have to download them on my other system05:33
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slougijontec: just select any mirror... ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for example05:33
slougilook in pool05:33
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jontecI mean on my system?05:33
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gernotslougi: the output is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hbyvka66.html05:33
slougijontec: ah /var/cache/apt05:34
jonteclike on my hard drive? (I'm looking for a directory)05:34
slougisome subfolder there05:34
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slougino problem05:34
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redondo81It doean't find the llibxine-extracodecs05:34
[GuS] redondo81, you must add multiverse repo05:35
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redondo81and how?05:35
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mimixdoes anyone know a good doc on how to customize kubuntu CD? I want to add some apps to it like firefox, etc.05:35
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mimixby CD I mean the install not live-cd05:35
atidemhello folks05:35
j2daoshhow do you check irq ports in linux?05:35
mimixj2daosh: kinfocenter05:36
slougigernot: did you try to open your floppy?05:36
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redondo81How can add multiverse repo please?05:36
slougisince there is lots of stuff about it in the log05:36
[GuS] redondo81, add these lines in /etc/apt/sources.list05:36
[GuS] # Multiverse05:36
[GuS] deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse05:36
[GuS] deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse05:36
[GuS] then, sudo apt-get update05:36
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slougigernot: sorry, need to leave... hopefully someone else can help. otherwise you could file a bug05:37
slougior ask in the forums05:37
gernotslougi: it actually performs the mount operation, the device is mounted, just the io slave dies05:37
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LeeJunFanj2daosh: cat /proc/interrupts05:39
slougigernot: i've had the same problem with my floppy drive ever since the media:/ io-slave was introduced, I never bothered looking into it since I don't use the drive. Forgot all about it. anyway, need to go now, see you all05:39
slougigernot: that is to say, everything works except the floppy05:39
redondo81I added the lines but it doesnt find the llibxine-extracodecs" package yet05:40
Jucatogernot: I think there's a bug with KDE 3.5.4 and HAL in Kubuntu05:40
[GuS] redondo81,05:40
Jucatoredondo81: libxine-extracodecs (single L)05:40
[GuS] es libxine-extracodecs05:40
[GuS] no ll05:40
[GuS] is*05:41
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srdjantI can't believe kubuntu people have managed to compile clanbomber... that's such a cool game and i've tried to compile it and it's a headache.05:41
redondo81ok perfect05:41
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j2daoshwhere can i find where a sound card is located?05:44
phreakys  does anyone know how to make a kde-session of xgl/compiz?05:44
j2daoshi think charims might need to override his location05:44
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Jucatoj2daosh: KInfoCenter?05:45
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j2daoshi dont see it in there05:45
j2daoshsystem settings, sound system05:45
Jucatohm... define "where it is located"?05:45
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srdjantphreakys: what do you mean kde-session of xgl/compiz?05:45
j2daoshin the override location box... what would go in there?05:45
j2daoshan irq?05:45
j2daoshor /dev/sounddevice05:46
Jucatoprobably a /dev/sounddevice. I'm not sure if Linux uses irq...05:46
phreakyswell, i installed xgl/compiz on kubuntu, and it starts as default now05:46
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srdjantsorry, can't help you then, phreakys05:47
phreakysi would like to select nonxgl desktop too, for some purposes. xgl isnt too stable05:47
srdjantis there really a /dev/sounddevice????05:47
phreakysok, np05:47
jonteccan anyone of tell me what the command is for safe graphics boot (Kbuntu, ubuntu, Xubuntu) I'm unning the xiubuntu alternate CD and one of the installations I did didn't display correctly05:47
srdjant /dev/snd/05:47
phreakyson a laptop jontec?05:48
j2daoshon mine its /dev/audio05:48
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j2daoshi got a /snd too though05:48
phreakysi had problems too getting x on my laptop from installation. had to install fglrx from console05:48
jontecwell it's on vmware for Windows05:48
srdjantthat's OSS, j2daosh05:49
jontecso maybe?05:49
srdjantalsa uses /dev/snd/05:49
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phreakysdont know about that05:49
j2daoshok he needs to point to snd then05:49
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KragneracHello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?05:51
nomad411Hi,  I have someone coming over in a few hours that wants Kubuntu on their laptop.. Yeaeeeaaahh!  Can someone recommend a very fast download place for it?05:51
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j2daoshok... charims needs some help with his sound... it looks like his card is recognized, but he gets no sound from it... i have had him use both asla and esd and nothing... his speakers are plugged in correctly and he read the comphrehensive tutrorial for the sound card thing05:51
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srdjantj2daosh: alsa by default mutes the sound volumes. Try alsamixer from the command line and check that it's all not muted and turn up the volume.05:52
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j2daoshall are up he said05:53
nomad411Ohhh I found I had a copy.. yes!05:53
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srdjantj2daosh: yes but make sure it's not muted. unmuted != all volume controls to maximum.05:55
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longbeanwhat's the benefit of Xgl? Is it just eyecandy?06:01
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Healotand some funcionaliti06:02
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longbeanis it resource-hungry?06:04
Healotgreat for solving cluttered desktop06:04
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Healotbut a waste though06:04
Healotlongbean:not that power hungry06:04
j2daoshhey srdjant can you help charims, i just got called06:04
Healotbut you still need to enable 3D hardware acceleration06:04
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srdjanti can try...06:05
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needanicknameInstall the X development headers and try again.06:07
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needanicknamenvm.. i bet i can google this one x_x06:08
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joecoderHello.  How can I make my cdrom auto mount whenever a cd is inserted?06:13
joecoder/dev/cdrom      /media/cdrom    auto    ro,user,auto,exec     0       006:13
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zecarlosoi gente, boa tarde06:17
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treatis wpa supposed to work with the version of network manager in adept?06:19
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Jucatoutter silence...06:24
srdjant_yeah i'm helping charims with the sound problem06:24
treathow do i get wpa working?06:24
srdjant_you need that wpa passthough thing, don't you?06:25
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srdjant_begins with s...06:25
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treati have network manager06:25
treatknetworkmangar thinks my router is using wep =/06:25
treatbut its not06:25
srdjant_treat, my adept says wpasupplicant06:26
treati have that to06:26
srdjant_so install that. no idea how to use that though06:26
Dr_Willisdang it - what is that kde tool that shows the space used by different folders in a nice graphical way.06:26
treatnetwork manager is suppose to control wpa_supplicant for you06:26
srdjant_which is network manager?06:27
srdjant_oh, let me try06:27
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treatit's called knetworkmanager06:27
treatbut thats just the frontend06:27
srdjant_i have kwifimanager06:27
Delphinusok here's an interesting question, installed kubuntu but kinda forgot to do the add users part... is it possible to add a user without any set up already?06:28
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treatkwifimanager also says wep06:28
Delphinusfrom where? i cant login?06:28
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treatmy router doesn't even support wep06:29
treatonly wpa06:29
srdjant_boot kubuntu, but add init=/bin/sh   then when it boots you have root shell, then just adduser06:29
Delphinusforgive the noobishness, but where does one add init=etc06:29
Kragnerac Hello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?06:29
Jucatosrdjant_: couldn't he boot into recovery mode?06:29
nick_Anybody know the port I need to forward to be able to send and receive files via konversation?06:29
JucatoKragnerac: try /var/log/dpkg.log06:30
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srdjant_Jucato, probably, though i'm not familiar enough with kubuntu and grub to know of a recovery mode ;)  (i've used slackware for a long time and that uses LILO)06:30
srdjant_slackware = hardcore :)06:31
Jucatohehe! there's a Recovery Mode in Kubuntu's default GRUB options06:31
KragneracJucato: Thanks.06:31
Delphinusok i'll boot that :) ty06:31
srdjantthanks Jucato.06:31
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Delphinusawesome that did the trick :)06:32
srdjant_slacknick_, dcc recv and send?06:33
nick_ya ya06:33
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Delphinusdammit its nearly 5am i should get some sleep06:33
srdjant_slackit will be the full range of ports i reckon.06:33
nick_Well, I forwarded 21 but I dunno06:33
nick_trying to get into rizon to see if it works..06:33
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nick_it seems like I've been having some weird problems with my download speed after switching from windows.06:34
srdjant_slackwtf some freaks have guns in the field near my house. i hope they're not shooting at my cats!06:34
nick_basically irc and bittorrent though06:34
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nick_call the cops.06:34
Dr_Willisdeer season?06:35
Dr_Willisthats not till later in the year.06:35
srdjant_slacklooks like foxhunters or bird shooters06:35
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srdjant_slackmy cat looks a bit like a fox...06:35
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nick_did you call it firefox? lol.06:35
srdjant_slackphew she's safe. need to find the other cat.06:36
srdjant_slacknick_, lol.06:36
srdjant_slackyou mean http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/TheRealFirefox.jpg06:36
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nick_lol omg >_>06:37
Dr_Willisthats a pomerianian with a mohawk06:37
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Dr_Willislooks almost like my dog06:37
nick_oh snap06:37
Dr_Willisexcept my dog would of ripped apart the guy with the clippers.06:37
Dr_Willisnot be taking a nap. :)06:37
nick_I just got booted from a server for some kinda nick problem -_-06:37
nick_how do you change your nick via command?06:38
srdjant_slack /nick new_nick06:38
Psychobudgietype /nick nick06:38
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UBUNICKthere we go.06:38
UBUNICKnuuu :P06:39
sleeptyperew, full CAPS06:39
UBUNICKyou better believe it!06:39
sleeptyperget a life ;)06:39
UBUNICKwhat do you mean get a life?06:39
UBUNICKI have a life06:39
UBUNICKdo you?06:39
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sleeptyperno comment, YELLER06:40
aliasfredUBUNICK: can you put it in lower case ? caps are kinda aggressive06:40
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aliasfredthanks :)06:40
Jucatoyey! aliasfred's here! :-D06:41
charimshey srdjant, u there?06:41
richardh_Hi everyone...anyone familiar with WEP enabled WIFI starting automatically on start-up?06:41
tuxarI use WEP with my wireless card and my router at home06:42
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richardh_tuxar: my wifi connected on start-up until I started using the WEP key, now I need to start it with wlassistant...any idea why?06:43
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tuxarrichardh_: you want some help, Im noob but perhaps I can help you06:43
richardh_tuxar: the key is inside the interfaces config06:43
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tuxarrichardh_: you're using kubuntu ?06:43
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richardh_tuxar: yes06:43
kubunickkubuntu owns all.06:44
srdjanthi charims06:44
tuxarrichardh_: ok, here is how I configure it06:44
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kubunickI'm still having problems with scc transfer..06:44
sleeptyperso, k3b fails... any solves ?06:44
tuxarrichardh_: Go to System Preferences, then Network Parameters06:44
kubunickfails why? o_O06:45
sleeptyperit won't even try to burn anything06:45
tuxarrichardh_: Go into administrator mode06:45
richardh_tuxar: yes, did all that06:45
aliasfredjust got a new 250gbyte :) all happy about it :)06:45
kubunickso the app doesn't fail but it doesn't recognize your disc?06:45
srdjantcharims: is it working?06:45
richardh_tuxar: the wep key is in there, theoretically it should be working06:45
sleeptyperkubunick, no idea...06:45
tuxarrichardh_: ah ah, I think you're trying it by command mode06:46
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charimsnope, didnt work06:46
kubunickemm, try reinstalling it :P06:46
charimsi found an mp3, i got static for a second, then nothing06:46
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richardh_tuxar: nope, I've got it all configured, but somehow it just doesn't start automatically06:46
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tuxarrichardh_: the user is the first sudo user of the system ?06:47
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kubunickdid anybody have to forward any special port to be able to receive dcc transfers for konversation?06:48
tuxarrichardh_: I mean...is in the sudoers list ? or perhaps you have to give others permissions that the user don't have ( sorry about my english )06:49
charimssrdjant i found an mp3, tried it and i got static for a second, then nothing, even thought the file was still playing06:49
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richardh_tuxar: don't think it's that...the problem seems to lie in the WEP key, because it did work properly without it06:49
lupine_85kubunick: you can set specific ports in the config., I think06:49
kubunickin the config where?06:50
lupine_85you'd only need it if you're behind a NAT firewall06:50
lupine_85found it? :)06:50
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kubunickhmm.. 1025-7000.. that's a lot of ports :O06:50
lupine_85just restrict it to 1 or 206:51
tuxarrichardh_: Did you looked in Ubuntuforums, I remember some people having the same problem there06:51
kubunickthe default is 6667 or something like that isn't it?06:51
lupine_85konv. is keeping it's options open in case some of them are already used06:51
lupine_856667 is IRC in general06:51
kubunickmaybe I should forward that or something/06:51
kubunickeven though it should be already -_-06:51
kubunickon to other problems.. how do I set a certain bittorrent client as the default?06:52
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kubunickI use azureus but..06:52
aliasfred6667 is the default port for the normal irc protocol (client-server)06:52
kubunickmmm yeah.06:52
aliasfredi dunno if there is one for the dcc06:52
tuxaryou know what's left in Kubuntu ? when I upgrade my system in Ubuntu the system sometimes tell me I have to restart the computer, That is no happend in Adept, you know why ?06:53
aliasfredkubunick: what client are you using ?06:53
lupine_85MIME-types in Konq.06:53
lupine_85(for default bittorent client)06:53
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lupine_85set to be opened by your application of choice06:54
aliasfredDcc port range support. from http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2004-December/000555.html06:54
kubunickalright, thx for the link.06:54
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kubunickand I meant set it for the default when I use my web browser.06:54
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kubunickupgraded goop!06:56
Goop2yep :P06:56
kubunickit seems like I need linux support 24-7 :O06:56
lontixhow do i open mp3 files?06:56
aliasfredkubunick: you could ask #konversation 'how to set up a dcc range port'06:56
Goop2Im still learning too06:56
aliasfredSho_: aliasfred: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> DCC06:57
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aliasfredaliasfred: settings->configure konversation->behavior->dcc->ports06:57
aliasfredi did it for you :)06:57
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Goop2lontix: theres something about xine that you need to update or something.. I dont remember exactly06:57
kubunickaliasfred: thx, will try.06:58
lontixcan't find out!06:58
kubunickaliasfred: sorry about that, was kind of busy06:58
lupine_85libxine-extraplugins ?06:58
aliasfredno problem06:58
Goop2anybody have any experience with wine?06:59
lupine_85goop2: a little06:59
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kubunickaliasfred: alright, I've been there.. maybe I shouldn't enable those specific ports? I dunno.06:59
lupine_85distracted by http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf atm though ;)06:59
kubunickaliasfred: what ports do you use?06:59
Goop2lupine_85: I tried installing soldat and it filled the screen with "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!"06:59
lupine_85finished now07:00
aliasfredkubunick: you choose a port range for dcc in konversation, then you open those port in your firewall to reach your box, and it should work07:00
aliasfredkubunick: i dont use dcc07:00
kubunickaliasfred: so you can't accept file transfers?07:00
lupine_85not sure about the errormessage though... you could be better off asking a wine-specific support channel07:00
kubunickaliasfred: or is there another way?07:00
aliasfredkubunick: via irc ? i dont think i can07:01
lupine_85you'd have to be mad to accept a file from someone in irc ;)07:01
lontixhow do i install VLC MediaPlayer?07:01
aliasfredkubunick: another way to achieve what ?07:01
kubunickaliasfred: I just try to get fansubbed anime quicker but I guess I do need to..07:01
Goop2I was wondering if there was a wine chanel07:01
kubunickaliasfred: another way to achieve transfers.. I assume not though :P07:01
aliasfredkubunick: to transfert file via irc, dcc is the only way07:01
kubunickaliasfred: is there another problem you can help me with?07:02
tuxarSomeone use any wireless applet that shows the power of signal in the traybar ?07:02
aliasfredkubunick: just ask :)07:02
aliasfredi will answer if i can:)07:02
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kubunickaliasfred: alright, it's not really a problem.  I extracted a tar file to my home directory and it just worked.. I though you had to go through all that configuring and make build checkinstall stuff? should it not work like that or is it just a fluke? lol.07:03
Goop2lupine_85: do you know what those channels are named?07:03
aliasfredkubunick: ok i get you want to compile a programm from its source07:03
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:03
aliasfredit is there for you :)07:03
lupine_85goop2: no sorry. There's a usenet group but thats all I've ever looked for07:04
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lupine_85try the website - www.winehq.org (I think)07:04
kubunickaliasfred: so if you download the tar file it will work automagically?07:04
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bug2Hi, does anyone know how to 'find' all files from $dir that were modified(not accessed!) after a certain date+time ?07:05
aliasfredkubunick: ? no :) a tar file is like a zip on window07:05
ubotugraphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 919 kB, installed size 2700 kB07:05
aliasfredkubunick: you uncompress the data in it and then you compile it :)07:05
lupine_85bug2 : man find07:05
kubunickaliasfred: well, I extracted azureus and it worked automagically :P07:05
bug2lupine_85: not good enough :P07:05
aliasfredkubunick: because azureus team worked for that :)07:05
lupine_85I don't know the command line options for find off by heart, I'm afraid07:06
aliasfredkubunick: there are no standard about this i mean07:06
lupine_85that's what manpages are for07:06
aliasfredkubunick: it is not like .deb you get from apt-get07:06
bug2lupine_85: for getting someone confused i'll give you that :)07:06
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kubunickaliasfred: lol, I see.  So the dev team would actually have to make it like that?07:06
srdjant_slackfind . -mtime 2 -print07:06
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srdjant_slacksomething like that07:06
bug2lupine_85: i can see -atime for access time and have no idea what 'status' is suppose to mean there07:06
aliasfredyep being easy to use and/or install is a hard job :) kubunick07:07
srdjant_slackbut -mtime is in multiples of 24-hours AFAIK07:07
bug2srdjant_slack: err, how about all files newer than date(not file) august 200607:07
srdjant_slackit's all in the manpage07:07
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kubunickaliasfred: I'm a linux noob :P regardless, the only real linux problem I have had is building from source or whatever you'd like to call it.07:07
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bug2srdjant_slack:  i could use -newer file but i'll have to 'touch file' with date: aug 200607:08
Agiosubuntu has made building from source a bit prolematic07:08
srdjant_slackbug2, yes07:08
bug2srdjant_slack: that's not what i want:) looking for ie. find / -newerthandate aug.200607:09
soonAnyone here got TeamSpeak installed ... care to join my server for a test?07:09
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aliasfredkubunick: the link i gave you will help you on this. but for beginner it is much easier to handle it with pakcage when possible07:09
bug2soon: me :)07:09
srdjant_slackbug2, that's exactly what that does07:09
CVirussoon: does it run natively on linux ?07:09
bug2srdjant_slack: yes but it's a workaround :) i thought i could use just find not 'touch' also07:09
soonshould do07:09
bug2soon: i've ts installed, as a client07:10
srdjant_slackbug2, use kde's find program :)07:10
soonbug2: server is server1.teamspeak.dk:540107:10
charimsok, sound isnt working :( i have no idea why, i have a slight hum from my speakers, and the alsamixer volume makes the hum get louder and quieter, also kmix balance can make the hum switch speakers, i have a Nvidia CK8 Using snd-intel8x007:10
soontry user: lars and pass: lars07:10
bug2srdjant_slack: have no kde installed (fluxbox :))07:10
kubunickaliasfred: which package..? what do you mean?07:10
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srdjant_slackbug2, fluxbox is cool :)07:11
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)07:11
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:11
srdjant_slackbug2, I think the choice is 1) use touch and find, or 2) use some other program like kde's find program.07:11
aliasfredkubunick: the above link will explain to you how to install and upgrade package easily in kubuntu07:12
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:12
aliasfredthis tools make it very easy to handle07:12
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kubunickaliasfred: hopefully I will get the hang of this eventually.. thanks for your help :P07:13
aliasfredno problem :)07:13
soonthanks bug2 (I take it youre z1 ... )07:13
bug2srdjant_slack: well all right; thanks very much07:15
bug2soon: neat :)07:15
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soonit seems to work ... :-)07:15
bug2soon: btw, there's teamspeak for linux too :) but u knew that07:15
soonJust bought some new Sennheiser PC150 headsets (7 pairs)07:15
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aliasfred\http://www.novell.com/video/ <- offtopic but fun, the marketing video for linux :)07:15
soonI know its there for Linux ... most of the guys I talk to use Windoze though ...07:16
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bug2soon: ah all right; makes sense now; the test.07:16
sleeptyperexcuse me being such a n00b - can Ark extract .rar s?07:16
soonif you thank the Novell video is fun and off topic .. try this : http://www.bigfun.be/Movie/Ursula%2BMartinez.htm07:17
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free07:17
Dr_Willissleeptyper,  install the rar binaries. and it can07:17
soon(please note: some frontal nudity), but not offensive in any way ...07:17
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draikAnyone know of any good FPS games for Kubuntu?07:18
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Dr_Willisdraik,  RTCW:ET and Trembulus07:18
sleeptyperwell, i think i'll move the .rar to my XP machine, where it was intended in the first place07:18
Dr_Willistremulus or somthing like that. :P07:18
Dr_Willissleeptyper,  or ya can use wine and winrar. :)07:18
draikThank you Dr_Willis07:18
sleeptyperthanks for advice07:19
larson9999sleeptyper: yes if you have unrar installed ark will handle it just fine07:19
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MarsRouterjasper ??? any one have idea ho wto install it by apy07:21
sleeptyperk, unrar-free installed :)07:21
srdjant_slackwinrar = rubbish07:21
srdjant_slackget unrar, compile and away you go :)07:22
charimsnada srdjant07:23
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srdjant_slackcharims, :(07:23
charimsnot srdjant_slack just srdjant07:23
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srdjant_slackcharims, srdjant and srdjant_slack are the same person.07:23
charimsoh,, news to me...07:24
sleeptypersrdjant_slack, i try to avoid "wine + some prog i really need" as long as possible :)07:24
charimswhy log in with 2 names?07:24
srdjantthis is me on my kubuntu laptop07:24
charimsoh, haha07:24
charimsi get it07:24
srdjant_slackthis is me on my slackware desktop07:24
charimsu trixter07:24
guesterI have a corrupt ext3 partition07:24
guesterfsck put some stuff on lost+found07:24
guesterand the rest it seems to have ignored07:25
charimswell, i think im going to post a bug report on bugzilla or whatever its called07:25
draikDr_Willis, For the Linux people, Tremulous has also made it into Debian unstable, Ubuntu Edgy07:25
draikHow can I get it from Debian unstable or Ubuntu Edgy?07:25
charimsok, well, ill ttyl07:25
charimsbye bye07:25
srdjantgood luck charims07:25
whateverHey, how can eth0 be disabled/enabled from cmd, instead of using kcontrol i.e07:26
srdjant_slackwhatever, ifconfig eth0 down07:26
srdjant_slackthen ifconfig eth0 up07:26
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whateversrdjant_slack: Thanks a tonne!07:27
srdjant_slackannoying that microsoft has named their shell 'cmd', now everyone uses it as a shorthand for 'command line'07:27
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srdjant_slackwhatever, you're welcome :)07:27
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srdjant_slackirc - the biggest time sink on the face of the planet, even out-ranks Big Brother tv series :P07:28
Dr_Willisannoying that MS refers to their gui as the 'shell' :) well  the litestep guys do at least.07:29
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sleeptypersrdjant_slack, maybe because (k)ubuntu is the easiest distro for transtioning from windows to linux, so many (k)ubuntu users tend to mix up terms07:29
srdjant_slackwell in a way it's a shell to the os, but the line between OS and shell seems to have been blurred in recent times07:29
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redondo81someone know how to play a dvd-film?07:30
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Agiosxine, mplayer, totem, pick you app07:30
jujurackhamhello ! i'm a newbie in the world of kubuntu (i'm french) -> for the moment it looks great07:30
fluke777Hi all I ve just upgraded from breezy to dapper everythong is quite fine except I am unable to switch mu keyboard layouts using shortcuts I remember this being pain in breezy as well. Has someone any idea where to look ?07:30
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srdjant_slacksleeptyper, I know what you are saying, and I agree. However that's ot what I was talking about. Microsoft did not (AFAIK) name their shell to 'cmd' so it will help windows users convert to kununtu....07:30
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lupine_85cmd rather than command ? ;)07:31
redondo81I have kaffeine but when I lunch the dvd there's an error07:31
srdjant_slackwell whatever they would have chosen07:31
Dr_Willisredondo81,  you mean a normal movie dvd?07:32
sleeptypercommand was a fossil from DOS-days07:32
srdjant_slackcould have calles it dos_box or something07:32
grotheskredondo81: Would you be so nice to tell us which error?07:32
lupine_85command is what you had in ME 98 95 3.1 etc07:32
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:32
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sleeptyper3.1 ran ontop of DOS (it required DOS for disc access etc...)07:32
redondo81kaffeine say that it was aneble to read the dvd, because I don't have the rights to read it07:33
lupine_85so did 95 and 98 ;)07:33
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srdjant_slackand ME07:33
sleeptyperbut in "less way"07:33
lupine_85almost to the same extent07:33
lupine_85using DOS INT codes, etc.07:33
guesterwhat do I need to compile on Kubuntu?07:34
lupine_85(at least, at the kernel level)07:34
lupine_85guester: build-essential07:34
draikI get an error when installing a .deb package...07:34
Dr_Willisplus whatever dev files the source needs07:34
draikhere is my pastebin if someone can help...07:34
guesterwas that for me, lupine_85?07:34
redondo81I havo to go now, have a good week and07:34
Dr_Willisdraik,  that tremulus package is for the beta-edgy release.. not the current dapper07:36
draiknot usable, huh?07:36
Dr_Willisgo to the tremulus homepage and install it from their packages07:36
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draikhow do I install a *.run file?07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
srdjant_slackit's ususally a shell script07:38
srdjant_slackjust run it as normal07:39
aliasfreddraik: do 'sh ./younamr.run'07:39
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draikSo I would do    'sh ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run'   ?07:39
srdjant_slackwhich download pages?07:39
Goop2whats a .run file?07:40
srdjant_slackfile blah.run07:40
srdjant_slackit will tell you07:40
Dr_Willissrdjant_slack,  about every download ive seen tht give ya a .run file mention right above the link how to run it. :P07:40
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Dr_Willisits just a self-running installer. it could actually be almost anything. :)07:40
draiksrdjant_slack, here is the site07:40
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Dr_Willistremulous always makes me SOOOOOOOOOO dizzy07:41
draikVersion 1.1.007:41
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srdjant_slackDr_Willis, i've never seen or noticed those, but I knew that I should investigate the file so you run file <filename> and head -20 <filename> and you quickly learn stuff.07:41
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Goop2so.. go open it from konqueror right?07:41
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Goop2with a single line console?07:42
Dr_Willisrun the command sh ./whateveritscalled.run :P07:42
grotheskSchon mal wer 'londonlaw' gespielt?07:43
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Goop2anybody know what sort of install directory to use when installing something with wine?07:43
Dr_Williswine normally has a .wine directory, that keeps a 'fake windows partition' in it.07:44
Dr_Willisand thats normally assigned to be C: by the default wine configs07:44
TimmmmGoop2: If you use c:\foo\bar it goes to ~/.wine/drive_c/foo/bar07:44
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Dr_Willisplus they got some creative links and configs in that dir and wine configs07:44
TimmmmGoop2: There is probably also a y: or z: drive which corresponds to /07:44
srdjant_slackgrothesk, nein deutsch bitte.07:44
Goop2ok so I wont have a problem installing it like that then.. thanks :D07:44
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Dr_Willisand the windows 'desktop' is often linked to the /home/user/desktop07:45
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Dr_Willisits amazing how trivial wine is to use these days07:45
grothesksrdjant: Excuse me. Wrong window.07:45
Dr_Willisas compared to say.. 4+ yrs ago.07:45
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srdjant_slackgrothesk, hehe ok :)07:45
Goop2ooh.. so I can do a z:/goop2/games or something like that?07:45
guesterWINE is pointless =p07:45
TimmmmIs there a way to force the order of sound cards with linux? I have alsa set up to go to hw:2,0  but often when I start my computer card 0 and card 2 are swapped! This is clearly stupid. Any solution?07:45
TimmmmGoop2: Yeah07:45