[12:09] <intelikey> soulrider
[12:09] <Bbetto> but kcker don run
[12:09] <soulrider> yes intelikey
[12:10] <Bbetto> i don't know why
[12:10] <moo> hi
[12:10] <intelikey> Bbetto i don't either.   you can run kcontrol and see about the settings on the pannel
[12:10] <moo> when ill type ./Configure i get the message "Your system does nat have 'cc' installed
[12:10] <soulrider> you need a C compiler
[12:10] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:10] <moo> oh
[12:11] <moo> k
[12:11] <intelikey> moo that's nice,  got any questions ?
[12:11] <soulrider> you might also wanna do sudo apt-get install c++
[12:11] <soulrider> sorry
[12:11] <soulrider> g++
[12:11] <Parkotron> Does anyone here know much about powernowd?
[12:11] <intelikey> but moo what you want to install is    build-essential
[12:11] <soulrider> that too
[12:12] <soulrider> but i dont think it uncludes g++ and gcc
[12:12] <moo> oO
[12:12] <soulrider> moo
[12:12] <moo> sry im new to linux
[12:12] <soulrider> do this
[12:12] <soulrider> sudo apt.get install build-essential
[12:12] <soulrider> if ./configure still fails
[12:12] <soulrider> do
[12:12] <intelikey> it's a meta package that depends on many things you need including gcc
[12:12] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:12] <soulrider> and sudo apt-get install g++
[12:12] <moo> allready typed g++
[12:12] <intelikey> !b-e
[12:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:12] <moo> apt-get install g++
[12:13] <soulrider> damn, i gotta go
[12:13] <soulrider> ill be back later
[12:13] <soulrider> see ya!
[12:13] <moo> bye
[12:13] <intelikey> !repositories
[12:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:13] <intelikey> !packages
[12:13] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Eh?
[12:14] <intelikey> DaSkreech nothing.    oh wait.   isn't there a right click on the desktop menu that allows for add pannel ?
[12:14] <intelikey> is add panel in that menu ?
[12:14] <Parkotron> I have an AMD Athlon64 3000+ with two possible clock speeds: 1000MHz and 1800MHz. CPU stepping worked out of the box on Breezy, but the processor nevers slows down on Dapper. powernowd is running and it properly identifies my processor including the available frequencies, but no throttling occurs. Does anyone have any ideas?
[12:14] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: What's going on?
[12:15] <moo> hm
[12:15] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Huh?
[12:15] <moo> hm...   /usr/src is empty
[12:15] <moo> where is the kubuntu Linux Kernel sourc directory?#
[12:15] <cutepinkbunnies> ok so how do I run kdevelop?
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> My pannel menu is on right click K button
[12:15] <intelikey> moo  did you install the source ?
[12:16] <moo> i only install from live cd and get some apps
[12:16] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: from the menu?
[12:16] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: I don't see it on the menu :(
[12:17] <DaSkreech> intelikey, Catull_Mac: Ooops Gotta go
[12:17] <moo> must i download the kernel soruce and unpack it in /usr/src/linux/ ?
[12:17] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: I think it's under "Development" or something.
[12:17] <cutepinkbunnies> ya there is no development on my menu :(
[12:17] <intelikey> cutepinkbunnies things don't instantly appear in the menu    but it should show up there within a few minutes after it's installed.
[12:17] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: thx a lot so far
[12:18] <cutepinkbunnies> ahh
[12:18] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Sure Did you find what I was talking about?
[12:18] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: or just type kdevelop3 in any console. that'll start it.
[12:18] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: im abaout to ask some krauts ;)
[12:18] <moo> someone help me plz ^^  i only want to get my wlan drivers working on ubuntu
[12:18] <intelikey> moo apt-get install linux-source    but it's the ubuntu package there is newer source at kernel.org  or some place
[12:19] <DaSkreech> All right well When you get to disk management then check to make sure that the two paritions have been created. If they are then reboot with the CD :)
[12:19] <intelikey> !wireless
[12:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:20] <moo> thx
[12:20] <cutepinkbunnies> omfg
[12:20] <DaSkreech> intelikey: If Catull_Mac goes awry see if you can help with the alternate CD
[12:20] <cutepinkbunnies> the thing launches then dissapears
[12:20] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: you?re great... it seems i will come here more often
[12:20] <m`kay_ubunux> guten abend
[12:20] <moo> hi
[12:20] <m`kay_ubunux> hi all
[12:20] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Please do :0
[12:20] <Catull_Mac> :D
[12:20] <intelikey> i'll answer questions as honestly as humour will allow
[12:21] <m`kay_ubunux> i have a big problem to install my ati radeon 9800. who would me help please
[12:21] <intelikey> !de
[12:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:21] <Catull_Mac> hehe... that?s fine... it seems they don?t understand my problem at kubuntu-de ^^
[12:21] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: how'd you install it?
[12:21] <m`kay_ubunux> /join #kubuntu-de
[12:21] <intelikey> Catull_Mac that was for m`kay_ubunux
[12:22] <m`kay_ubunux> intelikey: :-(
[12:22] <spazz> argh what is the easiest way to get a file from someone on windows
[12:22] <spazz> like 4mb file
[12:22] <Catull_Mac> thats what i thought
[12:22] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: What's the problem?
[12:23] <drbreen> spazz: make a smb share
[12:23] <drbreen> spazz: then opint konqueror to it
[12:23] <intelikey> spazz rsync maybe
[12:23] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: I've got a card like that and it works fine. I don't do proprietary drivers though.
[12:23] <moo> where the source is now stored?
[12:23] <spazz> Well, he has AIM and I have ... this pos that doesnt do file transfers like a normal porgram should.
[12:23] <spazz> So, I was thinking file upload website, but argh cant find a good one
[12:24] <m`kay_ubunux> how can i remove the proprietary drivers and install the others?
[12:25] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[12:25] <intelikey> larson9999 most of the time.
[12:25] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: I installed via KDE
[12:25] <cutepinkbunnies> not a single frikin thing works
[12:26] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: it comes with the free drivers if you don't specifically add the ati-drivers.
[12:26] <larson9999> Catull_Mac: still at it?  i'm guessing the mac on your nick means you don't have linux working yet?
[12:26] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: Installed through adept?
[12:26] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: yes
[12:27] <pierreth> hello
[12:28] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: remove it and reinstall it. Perhaps something went wrong during installation.
[12:28] <pierreth> how can i mark a message as spam in kontact?
[12:28] <linuxkid2> hi
[12:28] <intelikey> i'm of the firm impression that one should never update software unless there is something seriously wrong with what he's got.     updates are for people that like to twitter tinker and fiddle with the system all time.
[12:29] <linuxkid2> maybe, but I say people who use edgy are that way
[12:29] <crimsun> (some of kinda have to use edgy since we, well, make it?)
[12:29] <larson9999> intelikey: or if there is a new feature that he wants, or if there is a security concern, or the wind is blowing in the right direction
[12:29] <Catull_Mac> larson9999: hi :)  ummm just finished partitioning with mpart ;)
[12:29] <crimsun> some of us, rather.
[12:29] <linuxkid2> cool
[12:29] <intelikey> Q. 'what so linux users do?'    A. 'they install software.'
[12:30] <intelikey> s/so/do/
[12:30] <linuxkid2> intelikey: you should at least have the security repos enabled.
[12:31] <intelikey> linuxkid2 why ?   can you hack my box ?
[12:32] <drbreen> intelikey: unlikely, but security is GOOD !
[12:32] <linuxkid2> intelikey: I can't, but I don't know how. It's just good practice.
[12:32] <larson9999> intelikey: i don't install any more in linux than i did in windows.  i used mostly OSS in windows too but the difference there is windows has a security patch or 2 just about everyday so i have to upgrade
[12:32] <linuxkid2> it's not as critical as when you use windows by any means, but still...
[12:33] <intelikey> drbreen linuxkid2 better to have everything working, than to have security that doesn't run....
[12:33] <linuxkid2> I've yet to have an upgrade break anything. I kind of missed that problem X upgrade.
[12:33] <intelikey> larson9999 no doubt   :)
[12:33] <drbreen> intelikey: it is not likely that security will break your system
[12:34] <drbreen> intelikey: your thinking in monopoly$oft dimensions ;)
[12:34] <intelikey> drbreen should i point at the last two weeks track record    :)
[12:34] <linuxkid2> you want security and usabillity, then use the stable version of Debian
[12:34] <himanika> #theone serv
[12:34] <drbreen> yeah debian stable for the win !
[12:34] <drbreen> i probably missed the x server break too
[12:35] <crimsun> I intentionally missed it by running Edgy.
[12:35] <intelikey> linuxkid2 by all means.  but i didn't want to spam the channel with advertizements.....
[12:35] <linuxkid2> I never used it, sorry :-(
[12:35] <drbreen> or use stable and secure SLACKWARE !!!111
[12:36] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i boot now from the livecd
[12:36] <linuxkid2> yeah slack. ha ha!
[12:36] <intelikey> crimsun you rascle
[12:36] <intelikey> :)
[12:36] <drbreen> i stared with slackware. told me many things 'bout linux usage und unix systems in general
[12:36] <drbreen> started
[12:36] <linuxkid2> I might try gentoo one of these days.
[12:36] <drbreen> now im at (k|x)ubuntu
[12:37] <drbreen> use koroora - gentoo for whimps
[12:37] <intelikey> Catull_Mac i haven't been keeping track of what you have done   could you give me a breif 1. 2. 3.  on what you've done ?
 use koroora - gentoo for whimps
[12:37] <linuxkid2> Does it work on semi-old hardware as well as Gentoo?
[12:38] <drbreen> linuxkid2: koroora is just precompiled gentoo stuff - so that it does not take 3 days to set up a system
[12:38] <drbreen> linuxkid2: you can then use it as gentoo
[12:38] <linuxkid2> I thought the point of gentoo was the fact that things had to compile.
[12:38] <linuxkid2> ?
[12:39] <linuxkid2> for speed and customizability.
[12:39] <pierreth> someone knows how to import from thunderbird to kontact?
[12:39] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: got the partitions running finally (was a long way) and i?m about to install kubuntu from the livecd i?ve dloaded...i?m new 2linux.. absolute n00b^^
[12:40] <drbreen> Catull_Mac: dont use kde if you are new to linux - it will eat your brain when you try to configure every little bit of your UI
[12:40] <Catull_Mac> o_O
[12:40] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ok i'll try to answer any questions you ask.   ready to boot the live cd ?
[12:41] <pierreth> drbreen: i am new to linux and kde is perfect for me
[12:41] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: already done that
[12:41] <intelikey> ok
[12:41] <intelikey> see the install to hard drive icon
[12:41] <springman> what is a good FTP client?
[12:41] <Catull_Mac> i?m  working on win and mac now for years drbreen ;)
[12:41] <drbreen> pierreth: the last three ppl i told to install kubuntu configured the shit out of it.
[12:42] <Ballistik> gFTP
[12:42] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: yep.. i?ll klick it
[12:42] <intelikey> springman cli  ncftp
 konqueror is a good ftp client ?
[12:42] <Sanne> springman: konqueror, kftpgrabber
[12:42] <drbreen> i should suggest slackware and fluxbox to linux newbs
[12:42] <springman> I am used to filezilla, is any of those comperable?
[12:42] <drbreen> that would be fun
[12:43] <pierreth> drbreen: it takes some to get around, may be so good for unexperienced users
[12:43] <intelikey> konqueror is your friend
[12:43] <pierreth> drbreen: some time
[12:43] <Sanne> springman: I found kftpgrabber a bit similar. Just try all of them :)
[12:43] <springman> gotcha! I am getting them now...
[12:44] <springman> Where in konqueror do I find FTP client? is it like internet exploder where you just right click and login?
[12:44] <drbreen> pierreth: but when they found out everything is configurable they started to ask me about it - and i couldnt resit: ther went my weekend
[12:44] <drbreen> springman: type ftp://theadress.tld in adress input field
[12:44] <drbreen> ?
[12:44] <intelikey> Catull_Mac at the point where it asks about automatic or manual partitioning  manual
[12:45] <pierreth> drbreen: what kind of people have you as friend? ;-)
[12:45] <springman> drbreen: i got it thanks!
[12:45] <Sanne> springman: in konqueror, you can use the profile "file-management" (or similar) with two panes. Connect to a ftp site with ftp://username@ftp.server.name. When connected, add the address to your bookmarks.
[12:45] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i?m at the point of the installtion (step5')...
[12:45] <Catull_Mac> ummm k ;)
[12:45] <intelikey> k
[12:45] <springman> Sanne: awesome, does any feature like that exist in firefox?
[12:45] <drbreen> pierreth: fat girls in pink clothes who name their laptop "bitch" ?
[12:46] <intelikey> read carefully what it's askeing about mount points and formatting Catull_Mac
[12:46] <intelikey> don't want to format something with data on it.
[12:46] <Sanne> springman: you can browser ftp sites in firefox, but it's not an ftp client per se.
[12:46] <drbreen> springman: no. firefox is for nooobs - konqueror is TEH BROWSER (tm)
[12:46] <springman> Sanne: i thought not..
[12:46] <drbreen> springman: konqueror does everything and more
[12:47] <draik> firefox can ftp... get the extension "FireFTP"
[12:47] <Sanne> springman: there might be an extension for it, however. I *think* I once saw one, but I might be mistaken.
[12:47] <pierreth> i have almost no help in kubuntu, how can i install it?
[12:47] <springman> hahaha.a...wow...TEH, first time i've seen that in here! I always ask my techs "whats TEH STATUS"!
[12:47] <drbreen> draik: yeah but konqueror does it OUT OF TEH BOX !
[12:47] <drbreen> springman: your techs ?
[12:47] <intelikey> konqueror is like less and mc and lynx all in one    lol
[12:47] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i?m now at the point where he realized my partitions...here is nothing to do for me, is it?
[12:47] <draik> drbreen, I'
[12:47] <springman> drbreen: i own a voice,video,data networking company
[12:48] <springman> oceanlan.com =P
[12:48] <draik> drbreen, I'm just used to firefoxe
[12:48] <draik> wtf is up with extra letters and my cut-off statements today???
[12:48] <drbreen> which wicked criminal did make the konqueror "show files size graphically"-mode ?
[12:48] <intelikey> Catull_Mac only make sure it lists them correctly and isn't marked for formatting  anything that is data rich.
[12:48] <Catull_Mac> k
[12:49] <intelikey> watch the check boxes on the left side
[12:49] <drbreen> springman: and what to the techs say ?
[12:49] <intelikey> right
[12:49] <intelikey> right side
[12:49] <intelikey>  my other left
[12:49] <springman> drbreen: of course they call me a n00b and laff!
[12:49] <drbreen> hrhr
[12:49] <Frederick> how do I install realpayer?
[12:49] <Frederick> player
[12:50] <drbreen> springman: the would if TEH STATUS werent in caps !
[12:50] <Sanne> drbreen: where's this option for graphical file sizes?
[12:50] <drbreen> frderick: real player is evil.
[12:50] <springman> drbreen: trust me, i am not the smartest person in my company..i dont need to be =) they do all the heavy brain lifting for me
[12:50] <springman> drbreen:
[12:50] <springman> whoops..fat finger
[12:50] <larson9999> i like arachne but there is no linux version that's uptodate and it is missing some features
[12:50] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: k no box checked at the main partition (with xp on it) check box for swap, but none for ext
[12:50] <springman> BTW everyone...gFTP is cool.
[12:50] <intelikey> !mplayer
[12:51] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[12:51] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:51] <draik> !FTP
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about FTP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <draik> !ftp
[12:51] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:51] <drbreen> sanne: i dont know where - i enabled it xome day accidentally, laughed a lot and disabled it
[12:51] <springman> oooh...i forgot about pure-ftp..i've used that in the past
[12:51] <intelikey> Catull_Mac i think you'll have to let it format the root partition  that   ext3  /    or it wont install
[12:51] <drbreen> larson9999: what does arachne ?
[12:51] <drbreen> intelikey: plz use reiser3 - its cooler and faster and stuff
[12:52] <intelikey> fs type is optional
[12:52] <Sanne> drbreen: haha, yeah, one of those features somewhere deep in the configs :). I still like to see it, will look around, thanks.
[12:52] <intelikey> drbreen no thank.  ext3 is reliable
[12:52] <drbreen> intelikey: it is, but it is sooooo... standard ?
[12:52] <drbreen> sanne: good luck !
[12:52] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: k  - mount point for xp= /media/hdal1 for swap=swap for ext3=/media/hda5  <--- change this one 2  "/"?
[12:52] <springman> what is the equivilent of notepad in nix?
[12:53] <talljon84> I'm looking to reimage my machine and trying to decide whether to use Kubuntu or Ubuntu.  For the purposes of XGL, which will work better and be more stable?
[12:53] <Sanne> drbreen: thanks :)
[12:53] <springman> !notepad
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <larson9999> drbreen: it's a lightweight graphical webrowser that used to have a *nix and dos version.  now there is just a dos version.
[12:53] <intelikey> yes Catull_Mac
[12:53] <jmarimo> Hello I am looking to install firefox browser on ubuntu and am having problems, i have already downloaded the software and it's a tar file, can anyone assist with instructions, many thanks
[12:53] <drbreen> springman: mousepad
[12:53] <intelikey> Catull_Mac that is the only ext3   right ?
[12:53] <springman> jmarimo: use Adept, it will make your life easier!!
[12:53] <Catull_Mac> right
[12:53] <drbreen> springman: there are several better editors with synthax highlighting and stuff but no one except mousepad has so few features
[12:54] <springman> jmarimo: it is trickey from what i saw with cli
[12:54] <intelikey> Catull_Mac yes make it /
[12:54] <jmarimo> i have already tried adept but the firefox software is not listed there
[12:54] <intelikey> and tick the format box for it.
[12:54] <Catull_Mac> i?ve done it already ;)
[12:54] <Sanne> springman: in KDE, a simple text editor is kwrite, kate is more advanced
[12:54] <springman> drbreen: thanks for the tip..is there a notepad++ type of thing?
[12:54] <intelikey> Catull_Mac is installing ?
[12:54] <larson9999> XE - the best text editor!  the editor debate never gets old.  or has been too old for far too long
[12:54] <GameOver69> hey guys everytime i try to run frostwire i get this error:  runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[12:54] <jmarimo> sorry, actually it's listed but it;s greyed out, any ideas??
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: is about 2
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> isn't firefox installed by default?
[12:55] <springman> jmarimo: it should be...
[12:55] <intelikey> 5
[12:55] <intelikey> 4
[12:55] <intelikey> 3
[12:55] <larson9999> jmarimo: it's mozilla-firefox in adept.  but i think it's not the newer version
[12:55] <springman> jmarimo: search mozilla-firefox
[12:55] <intelikey> 2
[12:55] <Skrot> 1
[12:55] <intelikey> :)
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,9
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,89
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,88
[12:55] <intelikey> lol
[12:56] <Catull_Mac> the pc crushed.. bluescreen... o_O
[12:56] <springman> LeeJunFan: No, firefox is not in kubuntu by design..konqueror is built in broswer
[12:56] <jmarimo> i have just seached mozilla-firefox but its not listed
[12:57] <Ballistik> look for firefox
[12:57] <intelikey> wouldn't surprise me Catull_Mac    i have never learned to like the *buntu installer
[12:57] <Catull_Mac> just kidding ;)
[12:57] <jmarimo> That is correct, Konqueror is the default, but how can I install firefox
[12:57] <Ballistik> Look for firefox in adept, synaptic
[12:58] <Ballistik> Or just use the command "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[12:58] <intelikey> jmarimo sudo apt-get install firefox     dude.
[12:58] <GameOver69> what is better adept or synaptic?
[12:58] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i want to get rid of xp cause its instable and you tell me you?re not surprised o_O  (ok, it was abad joke... )
[12:58] <Ballistik> I like synaptic better
[12:58] <Sanne> jmarimo: you can even search for a package on packages.ubuntu.com, to see what's it called and which respoitory it's in.
[12:58] <Ballistik> But they're both good
[12:59] <GameOver69> what are the differences
[12:59] <Sanne> GameOver69: I like Synaptic better because it keeps logs of my installs.
[12:59] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ah ha humour can some times bite the hand that types it     :))))
[12:59] <Catull_Mac> ooh ooh *scared*
[01:00] <intelikey> GameOver69 one is gnome default and the other is kde default
[01:01] <GameOver69> intelikey, oh snyaptic is gnome?
[01:01] <intelikey> it's the default package manager in gnome  (ubuntu)
[01:01] <Sanne> GameOver69: ah yes, Synaptic needs Gnome libs, which you would have to install extra if you're using KDE.
[01:01] <intelikey> where adept is the default in kde (kubuntu)
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> um, if firefox is not on the desktop CD and someone installs from that won't main repos be set to that CD, and therefore not have firefox in main?
[01:02] <GameOver69> i see.... does anyone know how to install java 6 in kubuntu and use as default?
[01:02] <intelikey> LeeJunFan no
[01:03] <intelikey> breezy was the last release (afik) that used a cd repo
[01:03] <pierreth> how can i use the stocking bar?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: okay - good to know.
[01:03] <springman> GameOver69: good question..i wanna know myself
[01:03] <pierreth> i am not able to put something in it
[01:03] <GameOver69> haha
[01:03] <intelikey> !repos LeeJunFan
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos LeeJunFan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <GameOver69> there ahs to be a way
[01:04] <intelikey> !repos > LeeJunFan
[01:04] <Sanne> intelikey: what do you mean? You can always add a cd to your sources.list to use as a repository.
[01:04] <intelikey> Sanne you can add.  the installer doesn't
[01:05] <Sanne> intelikey: hm, I think the text installer does. I can't remember to have put it in myself. Good to know the Live CD installer doesn't, thanks.
[01:06] <intelikey> Sanne the alternate install cd or dvd might.    dvd probably   idk  i only have shipit cd's   dialup.
[01:07] <intelikey> can't go around dl'ing cd's on dialup no can i ?      huh ?   huh ?   tell me !
[01:07] <intelikey> :)
[01:08] <intelikey> s/no/now/
[01:08] <Sanne> intelikey: I will pay attention tomorrow, Kubuntu install is planned for my dearest :). We will use the alternate CD.
[01:09] <Sanne> :)
[01:09] <intelikey> k  you can leave me a message if im not here  /msg mesgserv help
[01:09] <intelikey> i'd like to know about the alternate      actually i'd like to have a copy   hehe
[01:10] <jmarimo> Hie, I have downloaded firefox but trying to install it via sudo apt-get install firefox*.deb am getting this error message
[01:10] <jmarimo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:10] <jmarimo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:10] <intelikey> err is it nickserv
[01:10] <Sanne> intelikey: I like it better, maybe I'm too old...
[01:11] <intelikey> broke 50 yet ?
[01:11] <Sanne> intelikey: I can leave a message with nickserv? Cool. Will do.
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, the command is sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[01:11] <springman> so how can I play .WMV files on kaffeine? or should I just use VLC?
[01:12] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago i guess that depends on what you want to do  no?
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> if you want to install a deb that is how i do it
[01:12] <Sanne> oh. 50. Not yet :)
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> also, make sure you aren't sudo and doing something else
[01:13] <drbreen_> springman: use vlc. kaffeine and totem are utter crap.
[01:13] <Tokeiito> how to make in Konversation 2lines of bars?
[01:13] <intelikey> jmarimo one of three thing least likely first.  1 your sudo is broke 'not in admin group'   2, you didn't try it as root 'sudo it'   3 another package manager frontend is running 'close adept or the automatic updater'
[01:13] <springman> drbreen: I have noticed...they are ok, but nowhere near VLC
[01:14] <springman> I used VLC in winblows..never on kubuntu..
[01:14] <springman> i am installing now
[01:14] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago yeah that works.  i enter it in mc and run the install script usually.
[01:15] <Sanne> drbreen: "crap" is a bit extreme, wouldn't you think?
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[01:16] <intelikey> springman i like vlc.   i watch movies with it in console    no X
[01:16] <jmarimo> Just tried again to install firefox but there are lot of dependency error messages relating to package libatkl etc not installed, what else am i missing?
[01:16] <larson9999> vlc is nice
[01:17] <snowdrift> hello, all
[01:17] <snowdrift> what is the command again to edit grub.lst
[01:17] <snowdrift> i cannot remember
[01:17] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i started now kubuntu from hdd and i?m about to dl through the actualisizer
[01:17] <snowdrift> i need to change the boot order
[01:17] <springman> intelikey: thats just fxing g33ky
[01:17] <springman> =P
[01:18] <Sanne> snowdrift: well, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can edit it with any text editor, as sudo.
[01:18] <intelikey> you calling me a geek !     hey damnit you calling me a geek buddy !       </eddy murphy impression>
[01:18] <Sanne> snowdrift: remember to make a backup first
[01:19] <intelikey> i'm gumby!
[01:19] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i need an irc-client for kubuntu :)
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Catull_Mac, xchat
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> irris
[01:20] <intelikey> kirc should be installed
[01:20] <intelikey> Catull_Mac kirc
[01:20] <snowdrift> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:20] <snowdrift> i dont seem to have gedit installed
[01:20] <Sanne> snowdrift: on kubuntu you could use kwrite or kate
[01:20] <snowdrift> how long have you used linux?
[01:21] <snowdrift> ;-)
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: gedit is the default text editor for Gnome
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: me?
[01:21] <springman> Grrrr....Quanta+ just crashed and gabe me a SIGSEGV error...WTF does that mean!?
[01:21] <snowdrift> yes, sanne.
[01:21] <intelikey> snowdrift me ?
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: hmmm *thinks* if my memory serves me correctly, I installed Debian Woody in November 2002.
[01:21] <snowdrift> woody
[01:22] <snowdrift> hahaha
[01:22] <ro> hi, i need some help ...can't download amsn on konqueror
[01:22] <snowdrift> r u american?
[01:22] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i got kopete here... -.-
[01:22] <intelikey> ro use gaim
[01:22] <Sanne> snowdrift: I'm from Germany
[01:22] <snowdrift> ok
[01:22] <snowdrift> im surprised you dont use suse
[01:23] <ro> yeah but why does it bug when i try download it
[01:23] <larson9999> there was just now a tug of war between the cheerleaders of two local high school teams.  am i wrong but wouldn't it be better to lose and those have the lighter, 'hotter' cheerleaders?  forget for a minute that i'm too old to be thinking about high school chearleaders as hot.
[01:23] <Sanne> snowdrift: I liked the Debian philosophy better and stuck with Debian or Debian based distros ever since :)
[01:23] <springman> intelikey: nice eddy murphey impression...now, here's my Charley Murphey Impression: </impersonates Charley Murphey> Grrr! Stop calling me Eddy Murphey's Brother!!! XD
[01:23] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ok,  actually i've never used kopete   kirc used to be the default irc client in kde
[01:23] <snowdrift> it appears i edit the .lst correctly
[01:23] <snowdrift> but i got a strange console error
[01:23] <snowdrift> about a crash
[01:23] <snowdrift> those things bother me about linux
[01:24] <intelikey> springman lol
[01:24] <snowdrift> kded "probably crashed"
[01:24] <snowdrift> what does that mean?
[01:24] <springman> Konversation is what loaded up on my kubuntu (kde) when I installed from the actual factual distro disk
[01:25] <springman> Ohh yes, I have a REAL kubuntu distro...fancy cover and all =P
[01:25] <intelikey> snowdrift might mean you didn't run blah as root and it couldn't save the file ????    what command generated that error message?
[01:26] <intelikey> Catull_Mac duty calls.   hope you have everything running smoothly.
[01:26] <intelikey> fellas' i gotta go.
[01:28] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: everything.. only got stuck to joinirc
[01:28] <Catull_Mac> ooh^
[01:28] <josh___> k
[01:28] <josh___> wassup
[01:28] <springman> what is up?
[01:29] <josh___> linux
[01:29] <josh___> well it sure is higher than windows hahahaha..................................i'm so lame :(
[01:29] <springman> linux and?
[01:29] <springman> linux aaaannnnd?
[01:29] <josh___> i dont know
[01:29] <springman> omfg...
[01:29] <josh___> i wanna get a mac just to put kubuntu on it
[01:30] <springman> super troopers? yes/no?
[01:30] <moo> how do i open a shell?
[01:30] <springman> josh___: wtfx the point of that?
[01:30] <springman> start>run>konsole
[01:30] <josh___> it could be cool
[01:30] <springman> i think thats what you want
[01:30] <[GuS] > alt+f4= run :)
[01:30] <moo> i mean a shell fr other users
[01:31] <moo> that they can connect with ssh
[01:31] <josh___> i wanna install xgl
[01:31] <josh___> NOW
[01:31] <springman> josh___: gotcha
[01:31] <springman> sshd i think
[01:31] <moo> command not found
[01:31] <springman> oooh...
[01:31] <springman> did you apt-get or adept the sshd?
[01:31] <springman> i dont know if kubuntu has it natevly
[01:31] <[GuS] > err *alt+f2 i mean
[01:31] <Sanne> alt+F4=quit, alt+F2=run
[01:31] <springman> wow..hooked on phonics =P
[01:31] <Sanne> :)
[01:32] <springman> natively**
[01:32] <moo> Could not find sshd package
[01:33] <josh___> in ut2004 i would tell ppl that to exit a car you can also type exit in the console
[01:33] <josh___> then i'd get into the server cuz it was full
[01:33] <josh___> hehe i'm so naughty
[01:33] <springman> wow, thats uhmm...rude
[01:33] <springman> but i know factually that n00bs fall for that shit every time =P
[01:34] <Catull> wohooo... first time irc with kubuntu fresh installed :D
[01:35] <springman> Catull: congrats
[01:35] <moo> how i the package named?
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> so i can quit here :)
[01:35] <springman> first time on kubuntu?
[01:35] <moo> second :P
[01:35] <Catull> just installed it
[01:35] <springman> oh..wtf...are you in the channel on 2 machines?
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> jepp
[01:35] <Catull> yeah
[01:35] <springman> neat...from a mac and a pc i guess
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> cu
[01:36] <moo> where i can get the sshd package?
[01:36] <springman> makes sense
[01:36] <moo> apt-get install ..?
[01:36] <springman> moo: I was never very good with the cli installer..i always use adept..I know "its noob" but fxoff!
[01:37] <Sanne> moo: might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:37] <josh___> ok someone give me that link to the huge ubuntu wiki
[01:37] <springman> lsh-server is what adpet pulled
[01:38] <springman> or openssh-server
[01:38] <springman> gotta run fella's wife wants sex XD
[01:38] <Sanne> moo: quick search for a package name: apt-cache search <searchterm>
[01:39] <Sanne> tmi...
[01:39] <moo> ivbe installed now openssh-server
[01:39] <josh___> i'm scared
[01:40] <josh___> someone just opened my back door
[01:40] <josh___> wtf
[01:40] <josh___> guys what do i do
[01:40] <josh___> my parents left for the night
[01:40] <josh___> omg
[01:41] <moo> need a firewall? ^^
[01:41] <moo> close the backdoor
[01:42] <Catull> well.. kopete is strange
[01:42] <josh___> ok nobody is upstairs
[01:42] <josh___> i turned on the alarm
[01:42] <josh___> ya anywho
[01:43] <moo> oO
[01:43] <moo> get a knife
[01:44] <Catull> moo?
[01:44] <Catull> :( no fishbot i see....
[01:45] <moo> yeah?
[01:45] <QuadBlack> ?
[01:45] <benjamin1254> i accedently installed the server part of kubuntu and id like to get the kde gui up and running how do i fix this issue
[01:46] <moo> how i open an x terminal?
[01:46] <Catull> /server -m irc.quakenet.org
[01:46] <Catull> i guess i dont like jopete
[01:47] <Catull> -j +k
[01:47] <moo> i mean with ssh ^^
[01:47] <benjamin1254> can anyone help?
[01:48] <moo> someon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he so???????
[01:48] <Sanne> benjamin1254: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' might be all you need (please, pthers, correct me if I'm wrong)
[01:48] <moo> someon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he do??
[01:49] <DFM> that is correct
[01:49] <moo> ?
[01:49] <Sanne> DFM: me?
[01:50] <moo> DFM: me?
[01:50] <moo> ^^
[01:50] <Sanne> he
[01:50] <DFM> sorry yes
[01:50] <moo> he
[01:50] <DFM> got 3 machine running and happened to glance over and responded
[01:50] <benjamin1254> thank you sanne ill try that
[01:50] <Sanne> DFM: thanks :)
[01:50] <DFM> np
[01:50] <Sanne> benjamin1254: good luck
[01:50] <moo> DFM du you now i have to make it??
[01:51] <benjamin1254> thanks ill be back if it dont help
[01:51] <moo> or someone else? ^^
[01:51] <Sanne> benjamin1254: please do :)
[01:51] <DFM> you shouldn't have to make anything
[01:51] <moo> how can he open a "shared screen"?
[01:51] <DFM> just open a shell and enter sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <DFM> enter you password
[01:52] <moo> i want to look what he do
[01:52] <Sanne> DFM: it's benjamin1254 who asked about that, not moo.
[01:52] <moo> Sanne do you know?
[01:52] <Sanne> moo: unfortunately no, sorry
[01:52] <DFM> and select yes, when it is done kubuntu desktop will be an option upon log in.
[01:53] <DFM> sanne, I figured that thaks
[01:53] <moo> kubuntu-desktop is allready installed
[01:53] <Sanne> DFM: ah, ok :)
[01:53] <DFM> I really should stay out of the conversation when I am working with multi machines. sorry.
[01:54] <moo> hm
[01:54] <Sanne> DFM: no problem :)
[01:56] <Agios> moo, look at the bash history file perhaps
[01:56] <Agios> there is also a way to enable logging of all bash commands
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Agios: there is a bash history file that does it for you
[01:58] <Agios> as I said
[01:58] <moo> but i want see it live :D
[01:59] <Agios> tail -f /home/user/.bash_history
[02:00] <Agios> only way to get anymore live than that is to be looking over their shoulder
[02:00] <moo> in knoppix a friend connectet by shell and said i should type screen -Ux
[02:01] <moo> then i have seen what he typed live
[02:01] <josh___> ok how do i access wine?
[02:01] <moo> where is the rober?
[02:01] <Ash-Fox> josh___, the application is called 'wine'
[02:01] <josh___> do i just type in that command
[02:02] <Ash-Fox> Run your executable with wine.
[02:02] <josh___> ah here we go
[02:02] <josh___> i did wine program now its doing something
[02:02] <Timmmm> josh___: Go to shop, offer money, receive wine.
[02:02] <josh___> lol
[02:03] <josh___> ok someone do a remote desktop
[02:03] <josh___> help me out here
[02:03] <otaku-san> josh___: d00d wine is just basically a background thing...you type wine then the program you want to run to work it
[02:03] <josh___> really?
[02:04] <josh___> so can i install windows stuff on here?
[02:04] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[02:04] <otaku-san> josh___: yeah when I first got wine I was like you...I wanted to pull it up....you can't do that
[02:04] <km0ti0n> I'm following a howto of the wiki, I'm building a kernel for use with XEN from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuDapper after I amke the kernel I am supposed to run "sudo debchange" but it errors complaining about debain/changelog missing.  where can I get a copy of a changelog?
[02:04] <Ash-Fox> wine installer.exe
[02:04] <km0ti0n> s/amke/make
[02:05] <Catull> back again
[02:05] <Ash-Fox> josh___, I suggest for wine help, you goto #WINEHQ though.
[02:05] <Catull> :)
[02:05] <Catull> !wine
[02:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:06] <Ash-Fox> !botabuse
[02:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:06] <otaku-san> josh___: just go to a site with some windoze installation and down it....then unpack it and go to that path...then run wine <program> ....
[02:06] <INeedHelp> i wanna know if there is defragmnet tools for linux?
[02:06] <Catull> :(
[02:06] <word> I'm trying to run audacity but i get this error in command line -  PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDWR PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000 PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDONLY PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000
[02:07] <DFM> needhelp:no and you don't need it
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> word 'ls /dev/dsp' ?
[02:07] <word> it's there :-/
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> It's probably locked, something else using exclusive access to it.
[02:07] <DFM> needhelp:let me see if I can find a link that I read the other day explaining why
[02:10] <otaku-san> Ash-Fox: why did you pull a botabuse?
[02:10] <Sanne> word: you can try turning off the sound server in kontrol center
[02:11] <Ash-Fox> otaku-san, looked to me like people were going to start requesting a lot of different things from ubotu in a moment, is all.
[02:11] <Sanne> word: it's in Sound & Multimedia, Sound System, Enable the sound system. Turn it off.
[02:12] <otaku-san> Ash-Fox: heheh I got you...*has seen that happen to much*
[02:12] <Sanne> word: this might disable your KDE system sounds, though, dunno.
[02:12] <word> er...
[02:13] <Sanne> word: yes? :)
[02:13] <DFM> ineedhelp:go here and read this http://www.linuxtoday.com/news/2006082201026OSHL
[02:13] <word> Sanne: no still same error after i disabled
[02:13] <josh___> guys
[02:14] <josh___> i'm installing guild wars!!!
[02:14] <josh___> lol @ windows, ur gone.
[02:14] <Sanne> word: just to be sure, log out of KDE and back in, let's see if it helps
[02:16] <otaku-san> josh___: you were married to guild wars?  Is this the only thing stopping you from using Linux totally?
[02:16] <josh___> well f.e.a.r. sure as hell aint gonna work
[02:17] <josh___> lol
[02:17] <josh___> does anyone have windows games on linux?
[02:18] <josh___> oh no
[02:18] <otaku-san> josh___: lots of people do....but mostly they use Linux architeched ones...not just windoze based
[02:18] <josh___> ok umm
[02:18] <josh___> one problem
[02:18] <josh___> does linux support direct x 9?
[02:19] <josh___> or will it run on opengl?
[02:20] <Sanne> josh___: directx is proprietary, Linux can't support it. It supports OpenGL.
[02:20] <josh___> hmm
[02:20] <josh___> so will guild wars run?
[02:20] <word> Sanne: i figured out what it's doing..i'm trying to get it to record and run skype at the same time..it doesn't want more than one app using it at the same time i suppose..what's another way to record a convo in skype?
[02:21] <Sanne> josh___: dunno, but maybe you'll find some answers here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[02:21] <otaku-san> Normally programs will support OpenGL...
[02:21] <josh___> good
[02:21] <otaku-san> just check first....try to stop headaches before they happen
[02:22] <Sanne> word: ah, yes, by default you can't have two apps access the sound device at the same time. I should have thought about asking that, sorry. What's a convo?
[02:22] <word> talking back and forth skype is a voip app. convo = conversation
[02:23] <kazuya> Quick question (hopefully).  I'm trying to use Kontact but when I try to for instance add something to the todo list. I get a window asking me to choose from two Default KOrganizer Resource files. Which is annoying in but also it then makes two entries.
[02:24] <Sanne> word: oh! Ok. There are some options, the best would be if both apps support the jack sound server, then you could route the output of one app into the input of the other through qjackctl (front end to jack). If they don't support jack, you can look into dmix, never used it though.
[02:24] <kazuya> So, is there a duplicate file I can delete or an entry I can edit or something, and of course where?
[02:25] <josh___> guess what
[02:25] <Sanne> word: I'll send you what the bot has to say about sound, sec
[02:25] <josh___> i'm on guild wars
[02:25] <Sanne> !sound > word
[02:26] <otaku-san> josh___: w00t!!!
[02:26] <Ash-Fox> josh___, you may suffer issues with the lack of cursor, or the game crashing when you look over lion's arch. But those problems are going to be fixed soon in Wine hopefully.
[02:26] <bl3ssing> any drivers for mouse and keyboard?
[02:26] <bl3ssing> where man I find them?
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> bl3ssing, the support is built into the kernel.
[02:27] <bl3ssing> Ash-Fox, and you mean?
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> I mean the kernel.
[02:27] <bl3ssing> i need drivers for my new keyboard ... and mouse from logitech
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> Just plug them in, and they will work.
[02:29] <Sanne> josh___: hmmm, those Guild Wars screenshots look fabulous. Is it really that pretty?
[02:29] <otaku-san> This isn't a problem....just something I want to know.  Ok I have a good connection...but when I use Konqueror.....it's sooooooooooo slow....but Firefox goes perfectly fast..why?
[02:31] <word> Sanne: none of it's suggestions seem relavent :-/
[02:31] <josh___> what
[02:31] <Sanne> word: oh, I'm sorry it doesn't help you. I guess the jack route isn't an option for you?
[02:31] <josh___> guild wars was buggy on linux
[02:32] <josh___> i coudn't correct my typing and there was no mouse
[02:33] <Martijn81> I just installed a machine here with 6.06.1, and it looks like dist-upgrade on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main gives me a bloody load of unsigned packages. Errr, shouldn't those packages be signed?
[02:33] <Sanne> word: here's some info on jack: http://jackaudio.org/
[02:33] <josh___> this is wicked
[02:33] <word> Sanne: actually i found a howto on the wiki >< sorry about this
[02:33] <josh___> should i try f.e.a.r.
[02:34] <Sanne> word: oh, cool! Would you mind pointing me to this howto out of interest?
[02:34] <baldi^zZz> re
[02:36] <kazuya_> Bah, conn dropped, no one responded while I was gone did they?
[02:37] <Martijn81> kazuya_: nope
[02:37] <kazuya_> k
[02:38] <Martijn81> kazuya_: oeps, might be yes, i confused the arrows :o
[02:38] <vinicri> hi everybody. qhat client p2p can i install with aptget on kubuntu
[02:38] <vinicri> ?
[02:38] <rouzic> amule
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install amule
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install xmule
[02:40] <vinicri> thx. downloadig
[02:40] <Sanne> vinicri: search for packages by typing: apt-cache search <searchterm>
[02:43] <word> Sanne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto seems to be having the same problem though..
[02:43] <Sanne> word: thanks
[02:44] <vinicri> ok. thx  Sanne. when checking libaries avaliable for source codes with ./configure, often i cant find the files needed with apt-get? what is the right way solve this?
[02:45] <Sanne> vinicri: I always go to packages.ubuntu.com, type in the file name in "Search the contents of packages" to look for the package that provides that file. You can search for packages there also.
[02:45] <word> Sanne: it's having a problem with more than one device on it as well.
[02:46] <Sanne> word: reading it currently
[02:48] <otaku-san> ahhhh ....*lots of mean words*.....why must it error on this.....hey does anyone know why I'm getting errors when I "make" a Gimp plugin....
[02:48] <Sanne> word: it said to quit skype before running skype-rec. Did you do that?
[02:48] <word> yes
[02:48] <word> output from skype-rec -> /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[02:49] <Sanne> word: some other app is still accessing the sound device
[02:49] <word> but if i startup skype alone it works
[02:49] <de_uan> hii everybodyyy
[02:49] <word> errr....strike that..
[02:51] <mcrandello> anyone know what version of madwifi I need to get to get the same performance as the atheros drivers from dapper?
[02:52] <mcrandello> I tried with madwifi 0.9.0 and the latest CVS but the performace is abysmal compared
[02:52] <word> Sanne: can't i just let more then one use it? ..and how do i find out what's using it currently?
[02:53] <DFM> hi de_uan
[02:54] <Sanne> word: I'm trying to find out how to list what's using it... so far no success. You can't let more than one app use /dev/dsp, except with things like ja or dmix, as far as I know.ck
[02:54] <Sanne> jack even
[02:55] <[Nige] > anyone using keytouch?
[02:59] <word> Sanne: it seems by putting aoss ./skype-rec instead it works alright :d
[03:00] <word> ermm...nevermind..
[03:01] <word> Sanne: now i can get skype working by doing aoss skype but not skype...
[03:02] <draik> WOOHOO... I MIGHT BE A DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <vinicri> how make kubuntu able to play mp3?
[03:02] <mcrandello> !restricted
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <mcrandello> vinicri: ^^^^
[03:03] <Sanne> word: I'm afraid this is going over my head... I only used jack so far for multi audio apps.
[03:03] <word> >,
[03:04] <word> i really need to know what else is using it  Sanne any ideas?
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[03:04] <Sanne> word: maybe the kde sound server is still up? It's called arts or artsd, I think.
[03:05] <[Nige] > i have a really dumb questions, how do i bind my win key to the start menu?
[03:05] <mcrandello> vinicri: check out the links above there from ubotu
[03:06] <word> nope
[03:13] <Agios> [Nige] : try Alt-F1, you can change the bindings with kcontrol
[03:14] <vinicri> cani disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to imporve de performace?
[03:14] <robin> Is kubuntu nicer than ubuntu?
[03:15] <Sanne> robin: completely a matter of preference
[03:15] <robin> ok
[03:15] <robin> which  has the best performance
[03:15] <robin> I can't get dvd to work under Ubuntu :(
[03:16] <Sanne> robin: for me, KDE is snappier than Gnome, but that might not be for everybody.
[03:16] <vinicri> kde runt a little fast here
[03:16] <vinicri> **runs
[03:16] <robin> ok
[03:16] <vinicri> can i disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to improve de performace?
[03:17] <Sanne> robin: you might have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:18] <aseigo> vinicri: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips
[03:18] <mcrandello> vinicri: kcontrol, click on the + next to Apperance and themes and then hit "Style"
[03:18] <mcrandello> you can adjust or completely disable gui effects there
[03:18] <mcrandello> which should help a little
[03:18] <robin> ok
[03:19] <Sanne> vinicri: I dunno, usually when you have hardware where Kde or Gnome is a bit much, some lighter desktops are recommended, like Xfce, or even light window managers like fluxbox or openbox. You won't have all the nice config tools, though.
[03:19] <mcrandello> also you can drill into "Desktop" and remove some of those multiple desktops if you don't use them, not sure if it makes that much of a dif
[03:19] <jojo930> hi all
[03:19] <jojo930> im french
[03:19] <jojo930> lol
[03:19] <jojo930> hi
[03:19] <jojo930> HI !
[03:20] <mcrandello> vinicri: "Window behavior" under the Desktop entry also has some stuff which might help, "Display content in moving Windows" etc.
[03:20] <word> how do you find out what app is using /dev/dsp?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> lol i dont speak english
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> What is dpkg-reconfigure command for reconfiguring xorg's fonts?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> ya un francais ?
[03:20] <mcrandello> parlay view frond say?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> YA UN FRANCAIS ??
[03:20] <cutepinkbunnies> lol mcrandello
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> !fr
[03:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:21] <mcrandello> cutepinkbunnies: I have a portuguese phrasebook that actually has all the phrases captioned with english words like that
[03:21] <mcrandello> it works
[03:21] <cutepinkbunnies> yeah that's kinda funny
[03:22] <cutepinkbunnies> its definetely the way it sounds kind of
[03:22] <cutepinkbunnies> to a frenchman it would sound really hacked
[03:22] <word> heh
[03:23] <word> soooo...how do you find out the app using a device? such as /dev/dsp?
[03:23] <felipe_> \exit
[03:24] <Sanne> word: I just found, try: fuser /dev/dsp
[03:25] <Agios> try ldof /dev/dsp
[03:25] <mcrandello> try lsof|grep dsp
[03:25] <Agios> dunno if it works for devices or not
[03:25] <mcrandello> I see some stuff in lsof that references /dev/pts so it might work
[03:25] <Agios> perhaps
[03:26] <mcrandello> is there any way to figure out which version of madwifi came with my distro?
[03:26] <ryanakca> Sanne: what's that for?
[03:28] <mcrandello> running strings on ath_pci found srcversion=532488E7A58A464B250A176 but I don't think that's helpful
[03:28] <Agios> mcrandello: dpgk -l mad*
[03:28] <Sanne> ryanakca: type 'man fuser': fuser - identify processes using files or sockets
[03:28] <mcrandello> it comes in linux-restricted-modules-$KERNNAME
[03:29] <mcrandello> and the package doesn't list versions
[03:29] <Sanne> mcrandello: is it a kernel module?
[03:29] <mcrandello> yep
[03:30] <mcrandello> but not GPL afaik which is why it comes with the restricted package
[03:30] <Sanne> mcrandello: try with 'modinfo modulename'
[03:30] <Sanne> mcrandello: or listen to Agios
[03:30] <mcrandello> comes up with the same version 532488E7A58A464B250A176
[03:31] <mcrandello> the old version I think used 0.9.something for their version numbers and the ng version is using dates
[03:31] <Agios> only other place I know to look would be in the changelog in /usr/share/doc/linux-restricted-moduels*
[03:32] <mcrandello> Agios: ooh good call I'll check that
[03:34] <Malice007> ? anyone have a link to install shockwave and flash?
[03:34] <Agios> there is no shockwave for linux
[03:34] <Agios> you can install the flash plugin though
[03:35] <mcrandello> okay no version numbers that I can see :(
[03:35] <Agios> flashplugin-nonfree  is what I'm using
[03:35] <mcrandello> they updated to the current cvs around 2.6.10
[03:35] <josh__> is it possible to use wine to install drivers?
[03:36] <kazuya> Been awhile, try again.  I'm haveing a problem in Kontact where if I for instance try to add a new todo item it says I have two Default KOrganizer Resource files and then makes two copies of the item.  Is there a file I need to delete or modify or what?
[03:36] <mcrandello> josh__: afaik no because everything is abstracted through the linux drivers
[03:36] <larson9999> josh__: i don't think so
[03:36] <josh__> well i just did :P
[03:36] <mcrandello> josh__: ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <mcrandello> that might be different
[03:37] <josh__> huh?
[03:37] <mcrandello> some wireless card drivers use the binary blob from the windows drivers
[03:37] <Agios> mcrandello: try this: apt-cache showpkg linux-restricted-modules-2.6.whatever
[03:38] <Agios> that shows the version of the nvidia driver
[03:38] <Agios> and some firmware version of something
[03:39] <Agios> might show what you are looking for as well
[03:39] <mcrandello> yeah nothing :(
[03:39] <mcrandello> good tip though, I've been rooting around in adept trying to get the info
[03:40] <Agios> well, one last stab at it. copy the modue somewhere and open it with khexedit. The version may be imbedded in the code and show up as text.
[03:41] <mcrandello> strings only found that super long number thing
[03:41] <mcrandello> which doesn't look like anything that madwifi released ;_;
[03:41] <josh__> i'm gonna try rollercoaster tycoon 2
[03:41] <Sanne> night all
[03:41] <Agios> oh yeah, forgot you checked that
[03:42] <mcrandello> just asked in #ubuntu-devel, worst that can happen is I get kicked for a support Q :)
[03:43] <Agios> lol
[03:44] <Agios> they should make that kind of information available IMO
[03:44] <Agios> wb Jucato
[03:44] <mcrandello> Agios: just got a reply: apt-get source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[03:44] <Jucato> ehehe thanks!
[03:45] <mcrandello> the source is as good as knowing which one is in there :)
[03:45] <Constrabus> !ati
[03:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <Agios> mcrandello: heh, I didn't think of that one
[03:45] <Jucato> I was trying out PCLinuxOS MiniME and XChat when I was here a while ago :-D
[03:46] <Agios> hehe
[03:46] <Agios> mcrandello: read the apt-get man page on the source section.
[03:47] <Agios> you may not get the source for the binary you are running. You probably will though.
[03:47] <oomph> pclinux not bad
[03:49] <Jucato> oomph: yeah. not bad at all
[03:50] <oomph> i convertered a few over
[03:50] <oomph> laptops
[03:50] <Jucato> I'm interested with it since it currently has one of the smallest KDE distros (MiniME and Junios)
[03:50] <Jucato> s/Junios/Junior
[03:52] <a|i3N> help. Ark crashed. It won't run now. i'm trying to extract a file an i kinda need it lol
[03:54] <a|i3N> "ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed." - anybody have any ideas how i can fix it?
[04:00] <LaserJock> how do you copy in konsole?
[04:00] <Jucato> highlight with the mouse and right-click
[04:00] <LaserJock> there isn't a keyboard shortcut, like paste?
[04:01] <soulrider> yes
[04:01] <soulrider> shift insert
[04:01] <soulrider> that will paste
[04:01] <Jucato> you can configure Konsole to use something like Ctrl+Ins (or Ctrl+C, but that's already set for Cancel)
[04:01] <timothy> In dsl live cd's sh files just run.  in kubuntu I have to type sh first, how do i change this?
[04:01] <soulrider> yea
[04:01] <Jucato> but highlighting the text without a mouse... I don't know
[04:01] <soulrider> ctrl + ins
[04:01] <soulrider> sorry
[04:02] <flaccid> !vnc
[04:02] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:02] <LaserJock> seems weird to have a shortcut for paste but not for copy
[04:02] <flaccid> !freenx
[04:02] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:02] <Jucato> LaserJock: ehehe! kinda, but probably because there's more pasting in Konsole than copying :-D
[04:04] <timothy> jucato: are you saying that no one ever has to copy to ask for help?
[04:04] <Jucato> timothy: nope. I said there was more pasting being done. I didn't say that no one has to copy
[04:04] <LaserJock> wow, lots of people in this channel, way cool
[04:05] <timothy> I always just use shift insert
[04:05] <LaserJock> shift insert pastes
[04:06] <Martijn81> hmm, i installed flash and java at the same time, and that did the sun license agreement freeze for some reason. Now when i start adept, sun is "upgradable" to the same package version. So i do that, and again, it freezes at ok (focus and enter on ok doesn't work)
[04:06] <timothy> so then you don't need the shortkut
[04:07] <Jucato> timothy: he was looking for a shortcut to Copy
[04:07] <Jucato> Martijn81: what did you use to install java?
[04:07] <Martijn81> jucato: adept
[04:07] <flaccid> can vnc or freenx do access to display :0
[04:07] <LaserJock> flaccid: I think x11vnc does that
[04:07] <Martijn81> 2.0
[04:07] <Jucato> Martijn81: ok... Adept can't handle installing Java :-D
[04:08] <Jucato> Martijn81: go to Konsole and type in "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:08] <Martijn81> jucato: already did
[04:08] <LaserJock> poor adept, sometimes it seems not quite ... adept ;-)
[04:08] <mcrandello> iirc I got it to install by hitting "details" when it looked like it stalled and got a console
[04:08] <timothy> jucato: why doesn't he create one?
[04:08] <mcrandello> it was just hanging out there waiting for approval on the Sun license
[04:09] <mcrandello> (in adept)
[04:09] <LaserJock> timothy: I'm just talking about defaults. It seemed odd to me that there was a shortcut for paste but not for copy
[04:09] <Jucato> timothy: hehehe that's what I was telling him. there's no keyboard shortcut for Copy by default
[04:09] <josh__> click details
[04:09] <LaserJock> timothy: I can certainly create one it just seems a little odd (smacks of bugginess if I didn't know better)
[04:09] <Martijn81> jucato: ok, konsole apt-get upgrade worked finally :)
[04:10] <Jucato> Martijn81: glad to hear that
[04:11] <josh__> guild wars was the only game that worked in wine
[04:11] <josh__> f.e.a.r. or rollercoaster tycoon didn't even work
[04:11] <Jucato> guild wars works in wine?!?!!?
[04:12] <flaccid> LaserJock: x11vnc available by apt-get sources?
[04:12] <LaserJock> flaccid: yeah, it's in the Universe repo
[04:12] <flaccid> ty
[04:12] <flaccid> !x11vnc
[04:12] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-5 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 820 kB
[04:13] <soulrider> !shell
[04:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:13] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Got a second for a pm d00d ?
[04:14] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good evening :)
[04:14] <soulrider> indeed
[04:14] <soulrider> i wanted to talk to you actually
[04:15] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that "channel" is still up :-D
[04:16] <flaccid> possible to run x11vnc as service, or should i script to run it on start?
[04:16] <a|i3N> can ya'll recommend any good 1st person shooters similar to wolfenstein that'll run on a slower machine? (it's a p3 500 w/128mb and a crappy tnt video card)
[04:16] <LaserJock> flaccid: hmm, I'm not sure
[04:16] <flaccid> np
[04:17] <LaserJock> arg, how do I set general keyboard shortcuts?
[04:17] <Kerberos-> hi
[04:17] <LaserJock> I haven't used KDE for a year or so, you can probably tell ;-)
[04:18] <Jucato> LaserJock: for Konsole? Settings > Configure Shortcuts
[04:18] <soulrider> !scripting
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <LaserJock> Jucato: no, for general stuff. I wonder how to switch desktops
[04:22] <Jucato> LaserJock: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:22] <LaserJock> ah Regional, that's right. You wouldn't want to put it in with Keyboard ;-)
[04:23] <Jucato> ehehe "Keyboard" there is more for the Keyboard device settings. but for accessibility and regional settings...
[04:30] <mx> anyone care to help me get some drivers for my radeon 9550 card running?
[04:32] <mx> ah, sorry.. i seem to have found instructions
[04:36] <lmosher> How do I check what version of a file I have (on command line)
[04:37] <Agios> you mean a package?
[04:37] <Jucato> lmosher: apt-cache show <package name> ??
[04:37] <Agios> or dpkg -l name*
[04:38] <lmosher> ty
[04:39] <Silver_Adept> Evening (localtime) everyone.
[04:41] <michelle_> My login is saying that no sound cards are found and that kmix cannot be found, but when other people login the sound works fine.  Any thoughts on why?
[04:44] <Silver_Adept> Does anyone know of a good, simple, working way to get my microphone to record? It's a generico sort of microphone hooked up to a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 - I either get an "improperly configured" error, or when I try to test it, ALSA claims the device is busy.
[04:45] <Agios> michelle_: type groups at a command prompt and make sure you are part of the audio group
[04:45] <lmosher> I'm trying to compile something and automake1.6 is a dependency however "sudo apt-get automake1.6" reports: "Package automake1.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package." help?
[04:47] <Agios> apt-get install automake=1.6    try that
[04:47] <Silver_Adept> Can you install automake1.6 from (apt/synaptic/adept)?
[04:47] <michelle_> Agios: I'll try that in just a second.  I typed "lspci -v" and it says for many of the components "Capabilities: <available only to root>".  What does that mean?
[04:47] <Ash-Fox> !dekorator
[04:47] <ubotu> dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB
[04:48] <michelle_> Agios: How do I know if I'm part of the audio group?
[04:48] <Agios> it means only the super user can use those capabilities
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> How does one access dekorator?
[04:48] <Agios> type groups
[04:48] <Silver_Adept> Ash-Fox: If not installed, install it using apt/synaptic/adept/whatever.
[04:49] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: the version of deKorator in the repositories is quite outdated. but you access it through System Settings > Appearance > Window Decoration
[04:49] <Ash-Fox> Silver_Adept, it is installed, how to I start it?
[04:49] <lmosher> Agios, Silver_Adept I was using tab completion. automake1.6 is in the list
[04:49] <michelle_> Agios:  Does that mean that I have to be a super user to use sound?  Is it possible to be upgraded to a super user or is there only one super user in Linux?
[04:49] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, thankyou :)
[04:50] <Agios> michelle_: groups
[04:50] <Silver_Adept> michelle_: Using the group manager, you can assign yourself to various groups.
[04:50] <Jucato> michelle_: System Settings > Users and Groups
[04:50] <michelle_> Agios: I typed groups and all I saw was "michelle"  Does this mean I'm not part of the audio group?
[04:51] <Jucato> then check if your user is part of (includes in its list) the "audio" group
[04:52] <Silver_Adept> (Any help on the microphone-SBLive problem?)
[04:52] <flaccid> counter strike on linux/ubuntu ? possible?
[04:52] <josh__> use wine
[04:52] <flaccid> serious
[04:52] <josh__> yeh
[04:52] <flaccid> ok
[04:53] <flaccid> i'll try
[04:53] <josh__> i used wine to install guild wars and f.e.a.r.
[04:53] <Silver_Adept> Wow. Wine hasn't done much for me but sit there and look pretty.
[04:53] <mx> wine works with fear?
[04:53] <larson9999> josh__: they go ok?  the newer versions of wine do pretty good by me.
[04:53] <josh__> yeh
[04:54] <mx> nice.. i have a copy of fear mp
[04:54] <Jucato> It pretty much seats there when I don't use it...
[04:54] <larson9999> but sometimes you don't know you have problems until you get pretty far into a game
[04:54] <josh__> yeh
[04:54] <josh__> well anyways
[04:54] <josh__> i need help
[04:54] <larson9999> i use it for dvdshrink :)
[04:54] <nrdb> is there a channel for edubuntu ?
[04:54] <michelle_> jucato:  I think I have to be an administrator to add groups.
[04:54] <Agios> michelle_: yes, you are not a member of the audio group which you need to be for sound.
[04:54] <LaserJock> nrdb: yes
[04:55] <Jucato> michelle_: yep.
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Why not use the linux version of dvdshrink instead
[04:55] <nrdb> ok, what is it?
[04:55] <LaserJock> nrdb: #edubuntu crazily enough
[04:55] <Jucato> michelle_: I'm presuming that the user that's having sound problems its the user that was created during installation?
[04:55] <Ashex> what's that fantastic command to reconfigure X?
[04:55] <Hawkwind> Ashex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <Ashex> I upgraded my video card and it's wiggin' out on me
[04:55] <Ashex> thanks Hawkwind
[04:55] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i didn't konw there was one.  shows how dumb i am
[04:55] <Agios> michelle_: there are a number of groups you will want to be a member of besides audio.
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Written by ozzzy in #LFD nonetheless :P
[04:56] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, God, 0.2, olde indeed.
[04:56] <nrdb> first time I check noone was there, maybe I spelt it wrong.
[04:56] <larson9999> Hawkwind: how long has that been out?
[04:56] <Hawkwind> larson9999: 2+ years now maybe
[04:56] <Agios> cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev would be a good start
[04:56] <larson9999> Hawkwind: lol.
[04:57] <Hawkwind> larson9999: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[04:57] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You'll see mine and Agios' nick both on the site as testers :P
[04:57] <Jucato> lol
[04:57] <Agios> heh
[04:58] <larson9999> Hawkwind: oh.  that's not the same app.  for a minute i thought it was the same app but a linux version.   but i will give it a go.
[04:58] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's not much different, honestly
[04:59] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It works the same as the Windows version
[04:59] <josh__> what kind of error is this?
[04:59] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i trust you it's good.  you haven't steered me wrong yet
[04:59] <josh__> */home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c/install: line 7: ./version: No such file or directory
[04:59] <mx> how do i tell which xorg driver i'm using?
[04:59] <michelle_> Jucato:  Thanks for the help.  I'm login' out so the sys admin can add me to the audio group.
[04:59] <Jucato> michelle_: you can also thank Agios. I just butted in :-D
[05:00] <larson9999> Hawkwind: does the rpm do ok with alien or should i compile?
[05:00] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You'll probably want to compile it.  Not sure what deps you'll need as I've yet to use it on Kubuntu
[05:01] <larson9999> Hawkwind: good. i got a new burner i need to test out
[05:01] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You can also use k9copy which is a fantastic app as well.  I use it all the time too
[05:01] <Hawkwind> larson9999: k9copy is available via apt-get
[05:01] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i use k9copy but didn't have as much success with it as with dvdshrink
[05:02] <Agios> k9copy is what I use most of the time anymore
[05:02] <Agios> if it fails then I try dvdshrink
[05:02] <Agios> if dvdshrink fails I give up
[05:02] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Strange.  I've copied probably 350+ DVD's with k9copy and have had less than 5 fail.  Mainly due to too many scratches on the original
[05:03] <Agios> Hawkwind: hair gel :)
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Agios: Hah!  Same here. I figure by that time nothing will work and I don't need the DVD that bad
[05:03] <Silver_Adept> Impressive.
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Agios: I've gotten 2 or 3 to work using hair gel actually.  Nifty little trick
[05:03] <Agios> yeah
[05:03] <Silver_Adept> Hair gel? Okay, I'm curious now.
[05:04] <Hawkwind> I do also use the Windows version of dvdshrink on Liz's computer as I copy probably 20+ DVD's a week :)
[05:04] <Agios> cd/dvd scratches can often be overcome temporarily by applying hair gel to them
[05:04] <larson9999> Hawkwind: maybe i dorked something up but out of the first few i tried i couldn't shrink 3 with k9copy but could with dvdshrink.  that was a while back
[05:04] <Silver_Adept> ...this makes a surprising amount of sense.
[05:04] <Silver_Adept> Can either of you gurus help me with my microphone problem?
[05:05] <Silver_Adept> (Well, maybe more a sound system problem...)
[05:05] <Agios> Silver_Adept: I don't even have a mic :) But check your mixer settings.
[05:05] <michelle_> Jucato: That seemed to work for every thing except flash in swiftfox.  I tried a bunch of the forum fixes before I was in the audio group.  Do I need to try them again now that I am in the audio group?
[05:05] <josh__> can someone do a remote desktop plz?
[05:05] <Silver_Adept> Agios: Mixer's good and loud. When I blow into the mic, I can hear it.
[05:07] <josh__> someone do a remote desktop.
[05:07] <josh__> plz
[05:07] <josh__> ive been trying this for days
[05:07] <Silver_Adept> I just can't seem to be able to get any sound recording/Skype program to recognize it. Which is weird, because Teamspeak worked fine with it.
[05:07] <Jucato> michelle_: probably. but Flash in Linux really is a hit and miss sort of thing...
[05:07] <Agios> Silver_Adept: then what problem are you having?
[05:07] <larson9999> flash + ff + wine does pretty good for the flash that doesn't support linux
[05:07] <larson9999> if you must hit a site that doesn't support linux
[05:07] <Agios> michelle_: shut down the browser and try again. firefox often loses sound for me and that usually fixes it.
[05:08] <josh__> *almost crying in fustration*
[05:08] <Agios> Silver_Adept: make sure the ac97 slider is all the way up.
[05:08] <josh__> :O:O u got realtek drivers installed??????
[05:08] <michelle_> Jucato: If you are still here.  I tried the aoss fix and now everything seems to be working fine.  Thanks again for the help.
[05:08] <Agios> and play with the switch settings
[05:08] <josh__> i'm trying to do it right now, help me.
[05:09] <Jucato> michelle_: you better thank Agios too :-D
[05:09] <Silver_Adept> ...okay. Let me see if that works. - Although the problem is that often, ALSA complains of being busy with the input device.
[05:09] <mx> anyone know a 3d benchmarking program for kubuntu?
[05:09] <Agios> Jucato: I probably made her mad :)
[05:10] <Jucato> ehehe... sorry bout that Agios :-D
[05:10] <larson9999> well, agios is a bad word
[05:10] <larson9999> :)
[05:10] <Agios> hehe
[05:10] <Silver_Adept> Sorry, nothing doing on that, Agios. No sound cometh out. Error is: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."
[05:11] <Jucato> really? what does "agios" mean?
[05:11] <josh__> OMG!!!!!!!
[05:11] <josh__> i'm freaking out here!
[05:12] <larson9999> agios means "you rock"
[05:12] <Jucato> ...
[05:12] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:13] <larson9999> Hawkwind: it's installing now.  while is says it's installing is it really compiling?
[05:14] <josh__> who just installed realtek drivers???
[05:15] <Agios> Jucato: it's a Greek word meaning saint or holy.
[05:15] <Jucato> oh
[05:15] <larson9999> i was pretty close
[05:15] <Jucato> I hope you guys are not pulling my leg eheheh
[05:15] <Agios> LOL, I'm being truthful
[05:16] <josh__> silver_adept are u here?
[05:16] <Agios> it's actually `agios and pronounced with an h sound like hagios
[05:16] <Jucato> oooh ok
[05:16] <Silver_Adept> We exist. We do not know how to remote into your computer. Perhaps if you explained your problem, you could fine a solution.
[05:16] <josh__> k
[05:16] <josh__> i'm trying to install realtek drivers.
[05:17] <josh__> it seems like you have done it before
[05:17] <josh__> right?
[05:18] <Silver_Adept> Hrm? I have not installed any Realtek drivers.
[05:18] <josh__> ok well can you help
[05:18] <josh__> it says for automatic install type ./install'
[05:18] <Silver_Adept> Mm-hmm.
[05:18] <josh__> i'm guessing the . is the stuff before that
[05:18] <josh__> it keeps saying no file or directory
[05:19] <Silver_Adept> Are you in the directory where the driver files are?
[05:19] <josh__> ya
[05:19] <josh__> i unzipped it
[05:19] <Agios> josh__: make sure you are in the directory where the files are. There should be a file called install in that directory.
[05:19] <josh__> ya
[05:19] <Agios> then from there tyoe ./install
[05:19] <josh__> huh?
[05:19] <josh__> type ./install where?
[05:19] <Agios> you unzipped the archive and it created a directory
[05:20] <josh__> yes
[05:20] <Agios> cd into that directory
[05:20] <Silver_Adept> In the terminal/console window.
[05:20] <josh__> ok
[05:20] <Agios> ls to see if there is a file named "install"
[05:20] <Agios> there should be
[05:20] <josh__> ok so i should type cd /home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c
[05:21] <josh__> WTF!!
[05:21] <Agios> I suppose
[05:21] <josh__> HOW IS IT THAT SIMPLE!
[05:21] <Silver_Adept> Linux can be like that.
[05:21] <josh__> oh wait
[05:21] <josh__> make didn't work
[05:21] <josh__> oh isn't there some package i need installed in order to use make?
[05:22] <Agios> yep
[05:22] <josh__> which one is it
[05:22] <Agios> sudo apt-get install build-essencial
[05:22] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: What audio chip do you have?  (I just joined, missed the start)
[05:22] <larson9999> build-essential?
[05:22] <r3sil3> Hellooo guys
[05:22] <josh__> i have realtek hd audio
[05:22] <Agios> yeah, pardon my spelling
[05:22] <r3sil3> can someone help me install a program? im new to this
[05:23] <Agios> apt-get install build-essential
[05:23] <Agios> r3sil3: what program?
[05:23] <r3sil3> I am trying to install KMLDonkey
[05:23] <josh__> ok then it should work
[05:23] <r3sil3> i downloaded the file using ark
[05:23] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: Ya, thats its generic name, but whats the chip?
[05:23] <josh__> no clue lol
[05:23] <r3sil3> what motherboard josh?
[05:24] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: does lspci give any hint at the audio?
[05:24] <josh__> if u want to look it up i have a gigabyte ga-k8n51gmf-9
[05:24] <r3sil3> so its an amd machine
[05:24] <r3sil3> its probably realtek ac'97
[05:24] <r3sil3> nothign special
[05:24] <jessica__> ANYONE FROM FLORIDA AREA
[05:24] <josh__> no its not ac'97
[05:24] <r3sil3> k8n51 is onboard geforce 6100 right?
[05:24] <josh__> yes
[05:24] <josh__> but with nforce 430
[05:24] <r3sil3> yes, its regular realtek bro
[05:24] <r3sil3> i have that board
[05:24] <josh__> wtf
[05:25] <josh__> k wiat
[05:25] <r3sil3> yea its 430 and 6150
[05:25] <josh__> no
[05:25] <josh__> no
[05:25] <josh__> 430 and 6100
[05:25] <r3sil3> hrmm
[05:25] <Agios> r3sil3: sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[05:25] <josh__> gigabyte mixed it up
[05:25] <r3sil3> thanks agios
[05:25] <josh__> ya its wierd
[05:25] <r3sil3> yea they did
[05:25] <r3sil3> weird
[05:25] <crimsun> ac'97 is a spec. HDA is the updated version of said spec. There's usually just one DSP for that spec's implementation, but there are a variety of codecs for both ac'97 and HDA.
[05:25] <r3sil3> r3sil3@r3sil3-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[05:25] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[05:25] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:25] <r3sil3> E: Couldn't find package kmldonkey
[05:25] <r3sil3> thats what i get Agios
[05:25] <r3sil3> when i do that
[05:25] <r3sil3> WHYYYYYYYYYYY
[05:26] <jessica__> U MEAN 2 TELL ME NOBODY IS FROM FLORIDA AREA
[05:26] <r3sil3> ohio here
[05:26] <r3sil3> married
[05:26] <r3sil3> have kids
[05:26] <r3sil3> lol
[05:26] <r3sil3> or "kid"
[05:26] <Silver_Adept> Mr_Fibble: Are you good at troubleshooting audio difficulties?
[05:26] <Agios> r3sil3: you need to add some repositories. I find it.
[05:26] <r3sil3> thank you agios
[05:27] <Agios> jessica__: there are a lot of people from Florida. Just not here :)
[05:27] <r3sil3> I love this 4 desktop thing
[05:27] <josh__> here is my mobo
[05:27] <josh__> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1939
[05:27] <crimsun> josh__: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat . What's the issue anyhow?
[05:28] <jessica__> ok
[05:29] <josh__> ok
[05:29] <josh__> wow
[05:29] <r3sil3> Realtek Azalia HD
[05:29] <r3sil3> thats waht you have
[05:29] <r3sil3> lol
[05:29] <josh__> so many errors flying through
[05:29] <r3sil3> i dono past that
[05:29] <r3sil3> ahaha
[05:29] <r3sil3> nice board
[05:29] <crimsun> "Azalia" is the codename for the HDA spec.
[05:29] <r3sil3> i have a geforce 6100-m7 biostar
[05:29] <josh__> oh i should run as root lmfao
[05:29] <r3sil3> on a sempron
[05:29] <r3sil3> its a piece
[05:29] <crimsun> you don't need to be root.
[05:29] <josh__> i have that board with a 3000+
[05:29] <r3sil3> but my Core 2 Duo 6600 is coming monday :)
[05:30] <r3sil3> along wtih an Asus DH Deluxe
[05:30] <josh__> clocked to 2.5ghz *puts on sunglasses*
[05:30] <r3sil3> and 2GB of Team Memory
[05:31] <r3sil3> ok i have a question
[05:31] <r3sil3> When i type
[05:31] <r3sil3> sudo apt-get install "program
[05:31] <r3sil3> I get
[05:31] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[05:31] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:31] <r3sil3> E: Couldn't find package kmldonkey
[05:31] <r3sil3> what repositories have to be changeed?
[05:31] <crimsun> !info kmldonkey
[05:31] <ubotu> kmldonkey: KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 885 kB, installed size 3036 kB
[05:31] <crimsun> >> In component universe
[05:31] <josh__> ok
[05:31] <josh__> i got a couple things that said command not found during the installation
[05:32] <josh__> does that mean it didn't install right?
[05:32] <crimsun> josh__: did you type ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''?
[05:32] <r3sil3> im confused
[05:32] <Agios> r3sil3: flood coming
[05:32] <r3sil3> ok
[05:33] <josh__> why would i type that
[05:33] <josh__> what's it for
[05:33] <Agios> that's my sources list
[05:33] <crimsun> josh__: it tells you the HDA codec used
[05:33] <crimsun> josh__: different HDA codecs have different troubleshooting steps
[05:33] <josh__> realtek ALC880
[05:34] <josh__> does that mean the driver is installed???
[05:34] <r3sil3> im SO CONFUSED agios
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: are you running the latest Ubuntu kernel?
[05:34] <r3sil3> ill show you mine
[05:34] <josh__> umm pretty sure
[05:34] <josh__> how do i check
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: _a_ driver is installed, yes.
[05:34] <josh__> how do i check what kernel version i have
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: ``dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk "{ print $3 }"''
[05:35] <r3sil3> AGIOS
[05:35] <r3sil3> MINE ARE SET AT DEFAULT
[05:35] <r3sil3> IM ON KUBUNTU
[05:35] <Agios> r3sil3: replace /etc/apt/sources.list with that. The do apt-get update
[05:35] <r3sil3> THE NEWEST
[05:35] <r3sil3> HOW?!?
[05:35] <josh__> nothing happened.
[05:35] <Agios> backup your current sources.list
[05:35] <unix_infidel> r3sil3: i see you bought one of the keyboards with caps lock.
[05:35] <josh__> k should i just reboot?
[05:35] <unix_infidel> nice job buddy.
[05:35] <r3sil3> unix...........my apologies.
[05:35] <crimsun> josh__: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[05:35] <larson9999> someone told me they a rumor caps lock was going away.  that's suck
[05:35] <r3sil3> iv'e been screwing with this damn OS for 2 weeks now
[05:35] <dr_willis> larson9999,  tht was a slashdot RANT.
[05:36] <r3sil3> just  NOW got my mp3's playijng
[05:36] <josh__> all that came up was >
[05:36] <josh__> what now?
[05:36] <larson9999> crimsun: don't print $3 bills.  everyone will no they're fake
[05:36] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: i think you should have to take an iq test before you are allowed a keyboard with a caps lock feature.
[05:36] <crimsun> josh__: press ctrl+c. You're not copying and pasting the command I'm giving you.
[05:36] <josh__> ya i did
[05:36] <crimsun> you need it verbatim
[05:37] <crimsun> don't omit anything:  dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[05:37] <josh__> oh i missed one of the '
[05:37] <dr_willis>  :)
[05:37] <josh__> all that came up was 2.6.15-26.46
[05:37] <larson9999> more than that
[05:37] <josh__> so is my kernel good?
[05:38] <crimsun> good, so you're running the latest available kernel. I've submitted additional changes into the upcoming Ubuntu kernel.
[05:38] <josh__> sik
[05:38] <crimsun> The next release should fix your issue.
[05:38] <josh__> ok well the driver is installed, reboot?
[05:38] <josh__> well i'm pretty sure the driver is installed
[05:38] <josh__> i'll reboot now
[05:38] <josh__> brb
[05:38] <crimsun> it's not going to help unless you compile 1.0.12 from alsa-project.
[05:38] <josh__> huh?
[05:39] <josh__> how do i do that then
[05:39] <josh__> or are u still talking to me
[05:39] <Silver_Adept> Would I need to compile the latest alsa-project devices as well to make my microphone actually record?
[05:39] <josh__> ooh ok
[05:39] <crimsun> there's an excellent how-to for compiling sound drivers on the ubuntu forum
[05:39] <josh__> brb everyone
[05:39] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: depends which codec you use
[05:40] <Silver_Adept> Codec, crimsun? I don't understand.
[05:40] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[05:40] <crimsun> (what's the output?)
[05:40] <Silver_Adept> Output: Mixers: 0: SigmaTel STAC9708,11
[05:41] <larson9999> Hawkwind: dvdshrink is just sitting there saying it's installing files.  been a long time now
[05:41] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: which dsp is used, the emu10k?
[05:41] <Silver_Adept> Should be. It's an SBLive! 5.1
[05:41] <crimsun> then recording should work just fine. Pastebin your ``amixer''.
[05:41] <Silver_Adept> Pastebin? Is that a specific command?
[05:41] <crimsun> see the topic.
[05:42] <crimsun>  Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:43] <Silver_Adept> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21685 , if you please.
[05:43] <josh__> OMG!!!!
[05:43] <josh__> ok it said on boot
[05:43] <josh__> xine was unable to load audio drivers
[05:45] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: your Capture control element is muted.
[05:45] <crimsun> you should be able to use Kmix to fix that
[05:45] <Silver_Adept> Even with Capture unmuted, sound does not record.
[05:45] <josh__> ok why is this so effing retarted
[05:45] <crimsun> from what, the mic? Did you unmute the mic boost?
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Attempts to use Sound Recorder and Skype have both failed in silence.
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Muted mic boost?
[05:46] <crimsun> did you toggle the mic input?
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Yes.
[05:46] <crimsun> you have two mic inputs
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Two inputs?
[05:46] <crimsun> yes
[05:46] <crimsun> Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Labels?
[05:47] <crimsun> I presume you've followed the emu10k mixer controls page under 'Alsa Drivers' on the alsa wiki?
[05:47] <Silver_Adept> If I change the "Mic Select" option in KMix, the microphone does not give me ambient noise.
[05:47] <whytxtacy> thanks fa the help got it up an runnin
[05:48] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - perusing said document.
[05:48] <whytxtacy> can anyone tell me if i can download yahoo messanger on this prog
[05:48] <crimsun> whytxtacy: does Kopete not suffice? (Yes, you can, but it doesn't integrate well if at all.)
[05:49] <dr_willis> whytxtacy,  GAIM is a good alternative for that.
[05:49] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - I do not know if I have the right document. Do you have a handy link?
[05:49] <whytxtacy> ok thanks
[05:49] <whytxtacy> im sorry im new to this program
[05:50] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: see the header section of http://alsa.opensrc.org/emu10k1
[05:50] <dr_willis> you mean 'operating system' :)
[05:50] <glick> hey doesnt kwlanmanager allow for the use of WPA?
[05:50] <glick> it says wep but i dont use wep
[05:51] <glick> i use wpa
[05:51] <larson9999> Agios: that xdvdshrink install script is hanging on copying the testfifo file to /usr/bin.  what the heck is testfifo?
[05:52] <glick> kde keeps frustrating me
[05:52] <glick> it looks pretty but its unstable
[05:52] <josh__> same
[05:52] <Agios> a test script to test his fifo. he actually uses 2 I think.
[05:52] <glick> for me at least
[05:52] <Agios> larson9999: but it's just trying to copy the script, not run it :)
[05:52] <dr_willis> i cant recall any problems with kde.
[05:52] <dr_willis> at least not in the last year or so. :P
[05:52] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - many apologies, but I do not understand the document at all...
[05:52] <Agios> larson9999: why is it hanging?
[05:53] <glick> its very buggy
[05:53] <dionyziz> img src="http://a.deviantart.com/avatars/d/i/dionyziz.gif"
[05:53] <crimsun> josh__: do you need me to walk you through installing 1.0.12?
[05:53] <dionyziz> <img src="" />
[05:53] <dr_willis> very buggy... and i havent noticed any.. oh well.
[05:53] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: the sblive mixer controls pages should explain what each enumerated control element does
[05:53] <josh__> yessss
[05:53] <dr_willis> life is buggy. :P
[05:54] <josh__> i'm dying here
[05:54] <josh__> omg
[05:54] <larson9999> Agios: i don't know.  it was just hanging on the copy part so a did the copy manually.  all the files copied over but when i tried to copy testfifo it just hung.  it has a p where the d usually is in an ls -l.  what does that mean?
[05:54] <josh__> i have no sound now
[05:54] <crimsun> josh__: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[05:54] <glick> does anyone know how in kde i can connect to a wpa protected wireless netowkr
[05:54] <glick> ?
[05:54] <Agios> means it's a pipe, jsut ignore it. It shouldn't have been art of the package.
[05:55] <glick> kwlanassistant isnt hellpng me
[05:55] <guillermo> hi, i new here, i have a problem with python on ubuntu, i try these len('n') and it return 3
[05:55] <crimsun> josh__: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2
[05:55] <larson9999> Agios: ok.  i just removed it and the install went ok.  we'll see if it works!
[05:55] <crimsun> Zamboulie: please keep it in here.
[05:55] <Agios> larson9999: great
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ok
[05:56] <Zamboulie> why cna't we just pm?
[05:56] <dr_willis> PM causes cooties.
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ur the doctor
[05:56] <Zamboulie> lol
[05:56] <baoji> hey folks... I'm trying out kubuntu for the first time; the installer hangs, no matter what I do, at step 6 (final partition before install)
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ok its installed
[05:57] <guillermo> hi, i am new here, i have a problem with python in ubuntu
[05:57] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - having a slightly more difficult problem than that as well. My two standard errors when attempting to record sound are "ALSA is busy" or "Mixer Settings are incorrect."
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: did you download the 1.0.12 tarball, too?
[05:58] <Zamboulie> umm i don't think so
[05:58] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: that shouldn't happen with the emu10ks. Which apps are throwing those errors
[05:58] <Zamboulie> what's this all for anyways
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: scroll up; I gave you the command
[05:58] <Zamboulie> oh ya
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: you need a newer sound driver, so you have to compile it
[05:58] <Zamboulie> i did that command
[05:58] <Zamboulie> i thought that was the kernel one
[05:58] <Zamboulie> which i already did
[05:59] <Zamboulie> anyways now what
[05:59] <crimsun> Zamboulie: the one from realtek or the one from alsa-project?
[05:59] <Silver_Adept> The "Incorrent configuration error" is KDE's Sound Recorder. Which, naturally, seems to be behaving, although not actually recording any sound.
[05:59] <Zamboulie> uhh i got the realtek driver
[05:59] <Silver_Adept> The "busy" is gstreamer-properties.
[05:59] <crimsun> Zamboulie: that's the prelim version of the alsa one.
[05:59] <Zamboulie> so now what
[06:00] <Silver_Adept> ...which at the moment, also appears to be behaving.
[06:00] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: shouldn't be busy; you should be able to execute multiple concurrent aplays and arecords just fine
[06:00] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - yeah, they're behaving right now. But I'm still getting nothing on playback.
[06:00] <guillermo> HI, i need help!!!
[06:00] <crimsun> Zamboulie: slow down - I can only type so fast, particularly when addressing multiple people
[06:00] <Zamboulie> sry
[06:01] <baoji> anyone know how the kubuntu installation works? I'm happy to set up partitioning myself if someone can suggest a command to run after I've done so...
[06:01] <crimsun> Zamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.12
[06:01] <SpAwN> baoji, are u installing off the live version?
[06:01] <Zamboulie> no such file or directory
[06:01] <baoji> SpAwN: yes, I am
[06:01] <SpAwN> baoji, thats the problem
[06:02] <crimsun> Zamboulie: I thought you said you downloaded it.
[06:02] <SpAwN> i hope u didnt have any valuable info
[06:02] <Zamboulie> ya i just realized that lmao
[06:02] <baoji> SpAwN: I'm installing on a blank drive :)
[06:02] <SpAwN> baoji, good =D it hosed my partions 2 times in a row
[06:02] <Zamboulie> wow this is confusing
[06:02] <baoji> SpAwN: so what should I get instead: the Alternate Version?
[06:03] <SpAwN> baoji, u can either dl the other version...or do what i did...install it using "text mode"
[06:03] <SpAwN> the text mode install went realy good....partion didnt messs up
[06:03] <baoji> SpAwN: I'm v. comfortable in text mode... how do I get there?
[06:03] <shane_> !xgl
[06:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:04] <SpAwN> baoji, are you using a live dvd or live cd?
[06:04] <baoji> SpAwN: cd
[06:04] <SpAwN> baoji, then u will have to re dl it...as im pretty sure its not on the cd
[06:04] <SpAwN> u can check
[06:05] <SpAwN> reboot....if it promts u for a options to boot....see if there is a text mode
[06:05] <Zamboulie> okok now it says ~/alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c$
[06:05] <Zamboulie> now do i type ./install?
[06:05] <SpAwN> reboot to the cd tha is....
[06:05] <baoji> SpAwN: ah, of course... I'll give that a go. thanks for giving me hope :)
[06:05] <SpAwN> baoji, np.....but im 99% sure the cd doesnt have it
[06:05] <crimsun> Zamboulie: um... that's the realtek stuff. Why are you messing with that instead of the alsa-driver-1.0.12 I specifically mentioned?
[06:05] <Zamboulie> i was following ur instructions
[06:06] <baoji> SpAwN: the alternate version then... good stuff
[06:06] <SpAwN> yup
[06:06] <Zamboulie> and look above
[06:06] <Zamboulie> it clearly says alsa-driver...
[06:06] <crimsun> Zamboulie: my instructions are for alsa-driver-1.0.12, not alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c
[06:06] <baoji> SpAwN: thanks so much!
[06:06] <shane_> you guys mind if I ask some questions about xgl and compiz?
[06:06] <SpAwN> baoji, np man
[06:06] <Zamboulie> k wait wait a sec
[06:06] <Zamboulie> lets just pm
[06:06] <crimsun> Zamboulie: (in each instance I've specifically stated alsa-driver-1.0.12)
[06:07] <Zamboulie> sry i'm really frigging stupid
[06:07] <shane_> no one is home at the #ubuntu-xgl room
[06:07] <Silver_Adept> Oh, wait, wait.... whoooo! It works! Thank you, Crimsun!
[06:07] <Zamboulie> i'm only 16 with adhd so i never know whats goiing on
[06:07] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: np.
[06:07] <Silver_Adept> Your magical powers are great and legendary... and it's rather funny, I just fiddled some options, 'tis all. Thanks for your patience.
[06:08] <DFM> zamboulie:1st stop trashing yourself Linux takes time and I still have yet to get a clue so don't feel bad.
[06:08] <Zamboulie> lol
[06:09] <shane_>  I just installed XGL with AutomatixBleeder. Everything seemed to go well but when I started an XGL session there is no XGL. How can I tell I got things done correct?
[06:09] <Zamboulie> its after midnight i gues i'm tired
[06:10] <Zamboulie> ok ya i did something wrong here
[06:10] <Zamboulie> the alsa driver, where do i get it'
[06:10] <Zamboulie> because i mixed something up with what u said
[06:10] <crimsun> Zamboulie: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2
[06:11] <DFM> zam:I forgot to mention I have been fooling around with Linux for just over 3 years and it wasn't until I discovered Debian that I wanted to learn more and now that I am using Ubuntu I want to abandon Window's.
[06:11] <Zamboulie> same here
[06:11] <Zamboulie> but i play fear and stuff so i still need it
[06:11] <Zamboulie> and all my pictures and music is there
[06:12] <DFM> I have yet to swith to PCIexpress but I do game and will keep win for that
[06:12] <Zamboulie> ya
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i only have a 7300gs
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i overclocked it till it artifacted but still isn't good enough
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i also pumped my cpu from 1.8 to 2.5ghz
[06:12] <Zamboulie> stock cooling and everything
[06:13] <SpAwN> play et on linux....best game ever
[06:13] <SpAwN> and its made for linux...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> xmoto !
[06:13] <shane_> SpAwN et?
[06:13] <larson9999> fish fillets is the best game every
[06:13] <SpAwN> wolfenstien:eney territory
[06:13] <SpAwN> *enemy
[06:13] <Zamboulie> i have guild wars on this
[06:13] <Zamboulie> beat that everyone
[06:14] <DFM> quit it you guys ur making me itch to fragg someone!!!!!!!
[06:14] <larson9999> or m.u.l.e. and you can run that on two tin cans and a thing of dental floss
[06:14] <SpAwN> i play cs and css on linx to..but use cedgea
[06:14] <shane_> SpAwN ahh ok I have been looking for a decent game. I may just say screw the XGL
[06:14] <SpAwN> shane_, xgl breaks everything
[06:14] <SpAwN> not worth it in imo
[06:15] <shane_> SpAwN I installed it but nothing happens. How can I make sure to get rid of it? I have never uninstalled anything before .. yet
[06:15] <larson9999> i'm so far behind on games that my next in line is duke nukem 3d
[06:15] <SpAwN> shane_, well just last week i went to install xgl...installed like 5 packages for it......then decided not to install it...and it TOTALY messed up
[06:16] <SpAwN> lol
[06:16] <SpAwN> larson9999, your in for a good surpise...duke nukem pwns
[06:16] <larson9999> pwns?
[06:16] <SpAwN> owns........
[06:16] <DFM> well Larson I still get a kick out of Pac-Man
[06:16] <glick> hey does anyone have a dlink wirless card?
[06:16] <shane_> SpAwN so how would I uninstall XGL and compiz?
[06:16] <Zamboulie> ok crimsun i'm up to speed now
[06:16] <glick> does it work with linux?
[06:17] <larson9999> SpAwN: oh.  actually i think that started a trend i don't like... the gun on the side angle.
[06:17] <SpAwN> shane_, f'ed if i know
[06:17] <DFM> glick: yes
[06:17] <crimsun> Zamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.12
[06:17] <shane_> SpAwN and this dang smooth font crap too ( I used automatixbleeder)
[06:17] <glick> DFM: the dlink wireless cards work with linux?
[06:17] <SpAwN> larson9999, hehe
[06:17] <Zamboulie> ya i did that
[06:17] <DFM> glick: some do
[06:17] <SpAwN> i just remeber being a little kid and finding the tittie bar in duke nukem
[06:17] <larson9999> lol
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:17] <SpAwN> u hit space bar and they take there tops off
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I cant even get Duke Nukem to work any more.
[06:18] <DFM> glick: get a DWL-G650 it works out of the box.
[06:18] <SpAwN> Dr_Willis, i had it running in linux
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> i found the old cd in a box a few weeks ago.
[06:18] <SpAwN> Dr_Willis, they have ported it im pretty sure
[06:18] <Silver_Adept> Anyway, thanks again, crimsun.
[06:18] <SpAwN> ...but this was many bong hits ago
[06:18] <SpAwN> so i forget :P
[06:18] <DFM> glick: Lights flash kind of funky but other than that it took right off
[06:18] <glick> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7843701&type=product&id=1142298456843
[06:19] <glick> thats the one im thinking about
[06:19] <crimsun> Zamboulie: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes --with-pcm-oss-plugins=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[06:19] <larson9999> i have 200+ games on cd here i haven't played.  had another 200+ on floppy but i sold most of them.  no time to play
[06:19] <Zamboulie> what the hell
[06:19] <SpAwN>  i dled redneck rampage the other day...couldnt get it working wine
[06:19] <Zamboulie> yay
[06:19] <SpAwN> good old school funny game
[06:19] <Zamboulie> its working
[06:20] <Zamboulie> ok i did the command
[06:20] <crimsun> Zamboulie: make && sudo make install
[06:20] <SpAwN> went to a demolition derby tonight....still got clumps of mud on me.......it was great
[06:20] <Zamboulie> so this driver is for my chip right?
[06:21] <SpAwN> some sloppy racing
[06:21] <DFM> glick: You had better check to see if it's compatable. I doubt any N series is going to work right now but I may be wrong.
[06:21] <crimsun> Zamboulie: both of them, yes.
[06:21] <Zamboulie> good
[06:21] <Zamboulie> ok reboot now?
[06:21] <crimsun> has it already finished?
[06:21] <Zamboulie> yes
[06:21] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, sudo depmod -e
[06:22] <shane_> ahh suddenly xgl and compiz work. barely
[06:22] <Zamboulie> done
[06:22] <DFM> Someone else might know. I just know that I chose a card off the list after trying in vain to get one of the 4 I had to work.
[06:22] <shane_> whats the command to rotate the cube?
[06:22] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^filename
[06:22] <Zamboulie> am i supposed to change ^filename
[06:23] <crimsun> no, type it precisely and tell us the output
[06:23] <Zamboulie> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:23] <crimsun> Zamboulie: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:24] <crimsun> (and tell us the output)
[06:24] <Zamboulie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24392 2006-08-26 00:21 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:24] <crimsun> ok, good. Now pastebin ``lsmod |grep ^snd''
[06:25] <Zamboulie> so do ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' then tell u the output
[06:25] <Zamboulie> ?
[06:25] <Zamboulie> or are u talking to me?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> use pastebin.com - post it there. :)
[06:25] <crimsun> don't paste the output here; put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <Zamboulie> ok
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> or some other. :P
[06:25] <Zamboulie> so the command is exactly ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' with the quotations
[06:26] <crimsun> yes
[06:29] <larson9999> i wish i was a hacker so i could make use of this dvt
[06:29] <jbeagley> hey
[06:29] <larson9999> dvr
[06:29] <Zamboulie> heeyah
[06:29] <Zamboulie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21688
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Heh - i haxored my DVR by flashing/updating its bios from a hacked one i found on the internet. :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> No more of that silly macromedia (or whatever the #(#( its called) protection on it now.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> macrovision?
[06:30] <crimsun> Zamboulie: sudo modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss && lsmod |grep ^snd
[06:30] <jbeagley> my computer crashed, i reset it, and now when i try to log in to my normal non-root account through the GUI, it tells me it doesn't have access to my home directory
[06:30] <Zamboulie> done
[06:31] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i bought a scientific atlanta explorer 8300 for $5 but it can't use it :(
[06:31] <crimsun> Zamboulie: what was the output?
[06:31] <Zamboulie> nothing
[06:31] <Zamboulie> just went down to the next line
[06:31] <crimsun> good. Now, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[06:31] <Zamboulie> i heard crackling!
[06:32] <Zamboulie> yay!
[06:32] <charles1952> Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories.
[06:32] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:34] <Zamboulie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21689
[06:34] <charles1952> Zamboulie: Thank you very much!!!
[06:34] <Zamboulie> oh lol ur welcome
[06:35] <Zamboulie> don't include the number though
[06:35] <crimsun> Zamboulie: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[06:35] <charles1952> Zamboulie: So I see!
[06:36] <Zamboulie> that sounded cool
[06:36] <crimsun> what did?
[06:36] <Zamboulie> the sound
[06:36] <crimsun> ok, then problem resolved.
[06:37] <Zamboulie> reboot??
[06:37] <crimsun> why reboot?
[06:37] <crimsun> your system works just fine
[06:37] <Zamboulie> well kmix hasn't detected anything
[06:37] <crimsun> then log out of KDE and back in
[06:37] <Zamboulie> oh oki
[06:37] <Zamboulie> i luvs you!
[06:39] <dek> I am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?
[06:39] <charles1952> Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories. Could not find a good sources.list on the site he suggested.
[06:40] <Zamboulie> ok anyone need help?
[06:41] <dek> me :P
[06:41] <charles1952> Yes...couldn't find a sources.list on the url you suggested...and other sites that you could recommend?
[06:41] <dek> I paste: I am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?
[06:41] <vinicri> how do i change desktop resolution on kubutu
[06:42] <Zamboulie> brb
[06:42] <Zamboulie> and click kmenu
[06:42] <Zamboulie> system settings > display
[06:42] <Zamboulie> if you cant change the resolution you don't have a driver installed for ur video card
[06:43] <httpdss> dek: how did you configure your smb ??
[06:43] <larson9999> why doesn't kcontrol appear on the kmenu by default?  or does it and i'm just too big a moron to find it?
[06:43] <vinicri> brb?
[06:44] <dek> httpdss: i followed this HOW TO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[06:48] <Zamboulie> i have absolutely NO bass
[06:48] <Zamboulie> its just treble
[06:48] <Zamboulie> thats why i was trying to install the realtek drivers
[06:48] <Zamboulie> i ended up reinstalling the alsa ones....fuck
[06:48] <obf213> !wmv
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <Zamboulie> oh i have no audio when i watch videos in google video
[06:50] <SpAwN> Zamboulie, somthing is probly using the sound device...maby try killall artsd then restart the web browser
[06:50] <SpAwN> i have to do that every once in a while
[06:50] <httpdss> dek: check connection between the 2 machines with a ping... can they see themselves ?
[06:51] <Zamboulie> no
[06:51] <Zamboulie> i'm pretty sure there is just no code
[06:51] <Zamboulie> codec
[06:51] <SpAwN> !restricted
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <crimsun> Zamboulie: the flash issue is well-known
[06:52] <Zamboulie> what
[06:52] <Zamboulie> i can run flash
[06:53] <Zamboulie> but i have no sound in flash either
[06:55] <dek> httpdss: I pinged 192.168.55.2 (my other PC), seems they can't see each other
[06:55] <dek> I want to set the IP of my Kubuntu to 192.168.55.1 but I can't find a way to do that
[06:56] <httpdss> sudo ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.55.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[06:56] <dek> cool
[06:57] <dek> now ping seems to work
[06:57] <httpdss> the console way :P ... else go to System Settings and under network settings youll find the way out
[06:57] <faked_> In Ktorrent, I forwarded to the default ports but I'm still getting like NO speed at all, what's the problem here?
[06:58] <pidg30n> Have you limited the upload speed at all?
[06:58] <faked_> No
[06:58] <faked_> I don't limit UL speeds
[06:58] <dek> httpdss I love you xD now samba works, thanks
[06:58] <pidg30n> :-)
[06:58] <dek> I spent days trying to figure this out :P
[06:58] <faked_> well I need this torrent
[06:58] <httpdss> dek: no prob !
[06:58] <faked_> it WAS DLing... now it's just not working
[06:59] <faked_> okay now it's dling 4 kbs... it's been jumping on and off like this since it started
[06:59] <larson9999> wth?  vista is going to require signed drivers for the 64bit version?  lol
[06:59] <faked_> does anyone have ANY idea how to make it more consistent?
[07:00] <httpdss> dek: that ip will get unassiged once you reboot. you need to get your network settings permanent
[07:01] <faked_> ... come on, someone answer me, PLEASE?!
[07:01] <dek> httpdss: how do I do that?
[07:01] <durper287> sorry, haven't worked with bittorent
[07:01] <httpdss> dek: easy way is  through network settings ... else console way would be to modify /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <faked_> how do you live, torrents rock >_> ...when they work
[07:02] <durper287> so do newsgroups
[07:02] <Jucato> lol
[07:02] <faked_> newsgroups? psht
[07:03] <dek> httpdss: when I go to network settings and enable "Manual" with my new IP, it says Default Gateway Ip is invalid
[07:04] <dek> what do I put in gateway IP?
[07:09] <httpdss_> dek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21690    <--- thats how your /etc/network/interfaces should look like ... (on a "normal" situation)
[07:09] <dek> ok
[07:09] <dek> you from Uruguay?
[07:09] <dek> xD
[07:09] <soulrider> httpdss_:  :O
[07:10] <dek> :O
[07:10] <soulrider> ya somos 3 :P
[07:10] <dek> si :P
[07:10] <soulrider> !offtopic
[07:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:10] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[07:10] <httpdss_> me yes :P
[07:10] <Jucato> :-D
[07:10] <dek> :O que coincidencia :P
[07:11] <soulrider> si
[07:11] <httpdss_> jajaja ... en cualquier momento nos rajan a todos :)
[07:11] <dek> xDD
[07:11] <soulrider> !offtopic
[07:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:11] <dek> no puedo creer, encontrarse con otro uruguayo ac, parece joda :P
[07:11] <dek> soulrider es amigo xD
[07:11] <soulrider> vamos al offtopic o nos corren :/
[07:12] <dek> ok xD
[07:12] <shawn___> hi
[07:12] <mx__> si senorita :p
[07:12] <dek> :P
[07:12] <shawn___> has anyone in here upgraded to edgy? is it worth the hassle?
[07:12] <Jucato> shawn___: not yet
[07:12] <Jucato> unless you want to test it
[07:12] <Jucato> Edgy will be released on October
[07:13] <shawn___> alright because I was using dapper like 2 months before the final
[07:13] <Jucato> well, Edgy is more edgy than Dapper, even at this stage
[07:13] <shawn___> how has it be for stability?
[07:14] <Jucato> well, from what I've heard, it's pretty usable, but not as your main OS
[07:15] <shawn___> oh ok... I guess I'll wait then... I have to have something stable for programming
[07:16] <Jucato> and even when Edgy comes around, it "might" be just a tad bit less stable than Dapper, AFAIK.
[07:16] <Jucato> Edgy
[07:16] <Jucato> Edgy's focus is on bleeding edge, I think
[07:17] <soulrider> Jucato: is edgy, thats why :P
[07:17] <Jucato> eheheh
[07:23] <Martijn81> faked_: try KTorrent 2.0.1, it's much faster and has many issues fixed
[07:26] <flaccid> can you install ktorrent by apt-get
[07:26] <soulrider> yes
[07:26] <soulrider> but i suggets you get the latest deb from their site
[07:26] <soulrider> version 2.0.1
[07:26] <flaccid> oh its already installed
[07:26] <Jucato> ey
[07:26] <Jucato> KTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports
[07:27] <flaccid> 1.2-0ubuntu5 looks old
[07:27] <flaccid> us backports a source?
[07:27] <flaccid> is
[07:27] <Jucato> yep. it's already in sources.list, just need to enable it
[07:28] <flaccid> thanks
[07:28] <Jucato> deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:28] <flaccid> that the only one i need
[07:28] <Drenhead> I'm having problems trying to change to the linux-686 kernel.  when I do, my mouse and keyboard stop working.  Am I missing something?
[07:30] <abattoir> Drenhead: do you have the corresponding linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[07:33] <Drenhead> I just pasted a screenshot of what I have installed
[07:33] <Drenhead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21691
[07:47] <[Nige] > hi all
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone
[08:03] <Drenhead> abattoir:  have you had a chance to look at the screenshot I posted?
[08:26] <Kai> 221 users. and not the one person asking a question. Wow. so different in the early mornings
[08:26] <Jucato> lol
[08:26] <Jucato> there are 222 nicks, but 200 of them barely say anything :-D
[08:27] <Kai> 222 now, only since tn3270 joined.
[08:27] <tn3270> *wave*
[08:27] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:27] <tn3270> hehe
[08:28] <Kai> but true, most that are here now are just idlers, or helpers that are sleeping or have no questions to answer.
[08:28] <tn3270> you guys take qns?
[08:28] <tn3270> i am trying to get rid of the irritating apt messages
[08:29] <tn3270> i upgraded form breezy to dapper
[08:29] <tn3270> *from
[08:29] <Jucato> Kai: some are developers :-D
[08:29] <Kai> if you have a question, someone probably has an answer
[08:29] <Kai> whats the message?
[08:29] <tn3270> ah ok
[08:29] <Kai> ive done that
[08:29] <tn3270> they refer to the breezy cd
[08:29] <tn3270> i changed the apt sources list
[08:30] <Jucato> tn3270: did you remove the line that has "cdrom" in it?
[08:30] <tn3270> it is just irritating, can i remove the entry for the cd
[08:30] <tn3270> not yet
[08:30] <Jucato> tn3270: open up Adept (K Menu > System > Adept)
[08:30] <Kai> yea, you can do without the cdrom soure
[08:30] <tn3270> ah ok
[08:30] <Kai> *source
[08:30] <tn3270> i was afraid it would break something
[08:31] <tn3270> thx for the help
[08:31] <Kai> not at all. i dont use the cd source ever. pain in the ass
[08:31] <tn3270> i'll go try
[08:31] <Kai> so i just removed it
[08:31] <tn3270> ah
[08:31] <tn3270> k, canother interesting qn
[08:31] <Jucato> ?
[08:31] <tn3270> can i remove the desktop
[08:31] <tn3270> totally
[08:32] <tn3270> ie get rid of kde-desktop
[08:32] <tn3270> or whatever desktop
[08:32] <Jucato> huh?
[08:32] <tn3270> i mean don't install the gui
[08:32] <Jucato> oh
[08:32] <Jucato> hmm...
[08:32] <Kai> for a server, yes
[08:32] <Jucato> yeah
[08:32] <tn3270> hmm
[08:32] <Kai> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <tn3270> apt-get deinstall kde ?
[08:32] <tn3270> ah
[08:33] <tn3270> remove
[08:33] <tn3270> thks
[08:33] <Jucato> Kai: that will only remove "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:33] <Jucato> that won't work
[08:33] <Kai> its a metapackage so it removes everything associate
[08:33] <Kai> d
[08:33] <Jucato> no
[08:33] <redblades> Wait, I thought you had to use Aptitude to do that... ?
[08:33] <Jucato> Kai: it won't do that
[08:33] <tn3270> interesting
[08:33] <Jucato> it will only uninstall the kubuntu-desktop pakage and only that
[08:33] <tn3270> i am contemplating chaging to xfce
[08:33] <tn3270> *hides*
[08:34] <Jucato> no problem with that tn3270
[08:34] <Kai> trust me, i had a hard enough time first time i moved from gnome to kde, ubuntu-desktop wanted to take most of the stuff i wanted kept with it
[08:34] <tn3270> hmm
[08:34] <Jucato> Kai: trust me, you can try doing it yourself now
[08:34] <Jucato> and see what it will remove
[08:34] <tn3270> i tried that on breezy, I think I broke x
[08:34] <Kai> Jucato, no thanks. Im using my KDE ;P
[08:35] <ironfroggy> any idea whats going on if scrolling with the right edge of my touchpad just stops randomly during a session and works again after a restart?
[08:35] <tn3270> hehe just experimenting
[08:35] <Jucato> Kai: you can try it without confirming it so you won't have to actually remove anything
[08:35] <Kai> Hm
[08:35] <ironfroggy> also interesting is that usually the pointer acceleration doesnt seem to affect the touchpad, but when the scrolling stops working the acceleration kicks in.
[08:35] <Kai> thats weird
[08:36] <Jucato> removing kubuntu-desktop will only work when 1) you use Aptitude and 2) it was installed using Aptitude
[08:36] <Kai> different from breezy. back on breezy it would have ripped all of its sibling packages, kicking and screaming, from the system
[08:36] <tn3270> ah
[08:36] <Kai> or at least thats what happened to me.
[08:37] <tn3270> i will keep that in mind and try
[08:38] <inteliwasp> is there a platform independent way of useing remote dektop?
[08:38] <Jucato> tn3270: you might want to have a look at this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php specially about installing Gnome, KDE, and Xfce
[08:39] <tn3270> i think i read that already hehe, but thanks
[08:39] <tn3270> i'll try later
[08:39] <tn3270> *crosses fingers*
[08:39] <tn3270> btw don't you guys sleep?
[08:39] <ironfroggy> are there known issues with touchpads like this?
[08:40] <Jucato> it's almost 3pm here...
[08:40] <tn3270> lol same
[08:40] <inteliwasp> 02:40 here
[08:40] <tn3270> eh
[08:40] <tn3270> jucato is in SEA?
[08:40] <ironfroggy> here too.. AM, tho.
[08:40] <tn3270> heh
[08:40] <Jucato> tn3270: yeh ^_^
[08:41] <tn3270> tks for help
[08:41] <inteliwasp> that was a 24hr clock... AM  weeeeee
[08:41] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:43] <nalioth> sleep?
[08:43] <nalioth>  who needs sleep?
[08:43] <inteliwasp> i second that
[08:43] <tn3270> sleep is for the weak
[08:43] <Jucato> sleep does not exist in nalioth's vocabulary
[08:43] <fritsch> tn3270: :hehe, just got up
[08:43] <tn3270> weakling!
[08:43] <tn3270> *hides*
[08:43] <Jucato> lol
[08:43] <fritsch> tn3270: :-)
[08:44] <tn3270> wow, you guys are frienndly
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: was totally tired, done 12 hours of kernel recompiling yesterdays (f*cking sky2)
[08:44] <tn3270> ah
[08:44] <tn3270> my fun yesterday was this:
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: 2.6.18-rc4 <- very stable for this card
[08:44] <tn3270> manually send 3000+ mails
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: lol
[08:45] <fritsch> tn3270: why that? perl/bash is your friend
[08:45] <tn3270> is exciting
[08:45] <tn3270> no no windows 20 box
[08:45] <tn3270> *2k
[08:45] <tn3270> with some weird email software
[08:45] <tn3270> notbad, 3hrs only :P
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: every 3 seconds a mail
[08:46] <tn3270> how come you took 12hrs to recompile :P
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: oh my god
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: long story
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: my new mainboard has an IT821X controller
[08:46] <tn3270> most of it was deleting "mail delivery" notices
[08:46] <tn3270> ah
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: after plugin my lvm and ubuntu installation, no root could be mounted, while booting (just normal, no problem)
[08:47] <tn3270> ah
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: after this a booted a live cd, chrooted in, redid initrd
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: rebooted and, what do i have to see: nothing works
[08:47] <tn3270> ouch
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: problem was: my installation knew the drive as hda
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: the live cd loads the ITE821X after the intel piix modul
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: => /dev/hde is now my harddisk
[08:48] <inteliwasp> is it worh it to recompile the kernal for my laptop for performance/batt times?
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: very annoying for grub, which can t find "corresponding bios drive"
[08:48] <tn3270> how did that happen fritsch?
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: bought new mainboard/cpu
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: IDE controller changed
[08:48] <tn3270> ah
[08:48] <tn3270> suppose so
[08:49] <tn3270> hmm
[08:49] <tn3270> grub can't find the drive then?
[08:49] <fritsch> tn3270: but to finish, the new initrd know it again as "hda" ;-) because It821x comes before Piix
[08:49] <inteliwasp> nm.... brain is outta gas..... *thud*
[08:49] <fritsch> tn3270: yes, if you have a special ide chipset
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: normally no stress, the mix up (hde <-> hda) from live to booted/chrooted system was problem at first
[08:50] <tn3270> why are you guys so hardcore?
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: hardcore?
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: i want to use an OS
[08:50] <tn3270> yeah you spend 12 to recompile
[08:50] <tn3270> 12 hrs
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: compile time was perhaps 1 hour
[08:50] <tn3270> oh
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: but friggling out the devices stuff
[08:51] <tn3270> yeah i suppose
[08:51] <tn3270> many would have given up
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: after that i tried kernels to improve sky2 bandwith
[08:51] <tn3270> i appluad your... tenacity
[08:51] <tn3270> what is sky2?
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: but not me, made a howto and send it to my computer shop
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: this is a network driver
[08:51] <tn3270> mm
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: the device says "hello" under eth1, but wants to be used on eth2 ;-)
[08:52] <tn3270> hehehe
[08:52] <tn3270> weirdness
[08:52] <fritsch> [17179584.788000]  sky2 eth0: addr 00:17:31:84:44:8d
[08:52] <fritsch> [17179584.936000]  sky2 eth2: enabling interface
[08:52] <fritsch> tn3270: cool *g* or?
[08:52] <fritsch> tn3270: perhaps some udev stuff, i could manage this hehe
[08:52] <tn3270> you are way to scary
[08:53] <tn3270> i just know the basics
[08:53] <tn3270> and you're playing with interesting drivers
[08:53] <fritsch> tn3270: don`t want to scarry
[08:54] <fritsch> tn3270: i use linux because of such stuff ... there would have been no way to keep an windows XP installation
[08:54] <tn3270> no worries
[08:54] <ironfroggy> has anyone here been having trouble with firefox?
[08:54] <tn3270> not really
[08:54] <fritsch> ironfroggy: in what way?
[08:54] <ironfroggy> im having consistant problems with it on two boxes, but its different consistant problems on each box.
[08:54] <Jucato> what kind of problem?
[08:54] <ironfroggy> one my laptop i get repeated freezing
[08:55] <fritsch> ironfroggy: only firefox or the whole system?
[08:55] <ironfroggy> and on the desktop it randomly loads pages without rendering them.
[08:55] <ironfroggy> just firefox
[08:55] <fritsch> ironfroggy: some "jungle" plugins (sorry don`t find the english word)
[08:56] <ironfroggy> umm.. not sure what you mean
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: some wmv plugins can hang firefox very ugly, or acessing flash sites
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: can you reproduce it to a page?
[08:56] <ironfroggy> no its never reproducable.
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: shit :-)
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: ypi ise tje ate versopm
[08:56] <ironfroggy> its just one of those "eventually" bugs
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: sorry, did not look an the screen
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: you use the latest version?
[08:56] <ironfroggy> yes
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: try following
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: start firefox from a terminal and have a look, if something is reported in
[08:57] <ironfroggy> what i find the oddest is that both boxes are up to date and get these different problems, but both get their respective problems pretty consistantly.
[08:57] <ironfroggy> ill do that
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: you can also look in ~/.xession-errors
[08:57] <ironfroggy> are there any verbosity flags i can use?
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: --g-fatal-warnings
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: or -safe-mode
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: if safe mode works, then an extension is the problem
[08:58] <ironfroggy> ok if i cant figure anything out from this ill run in a debugger next time.
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: okay, have fun
[08:59] <root> i
[08:59] <fritsch> root: could you do: adduser fritsch adm
[08:59] <ironfroggy> but also, i still cant scroll with my touchpad and dont know why its stopping working.
[08:59] <fritsch> root: lol, was just a joke, because of your "root" name
[08:59] <fritsch> ironfroggy: did you suspend in between?
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: just switch to a terminal: "ctrl alt F1" and switch back "ctrl alt F7"
[09:00] <ironfroggy> no it just happens now and then. its pretty rare, but very annoying
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: and retry
[09:00] <ironfroggy> tried that, no go
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: okay, perhaps look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: synaptics is it .. i think
[09:01] <ironfroggy> yes its not finding the touchpad device, so it must be falling back on a standard mouse driver.
[09:04] <quink25> hello, just a question:
[09:05] <quink25> i'm having problems with a latitude c600 cd-rom drive. all i think i need is a kernel option that i can pass on, that says no persitent mount. the documentation was kinda sparse on that one, so it'd be nice to have something
[09:06] <quink25> i'm trying to run an install
[09:09] <redondo81> Hi guys, do you know how I can run  windows exe files under linux?There's an emulator o something like?
[09:10] <hagenisse> wine.
[09:10] <Jucato> redondo81: Wine. but not all windows programs will run
[09:10] <redondo81> ok, thanks, with apt-get I can install it?
[09:10] <Jucato> yep
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> I suggest that if you have difficulties with wine, to readup about the program you want to run on http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:12] <redondo81> Thank you very much!I try now :)
[09:16] <quink25> any ideas?
[09:17] <fritsch> quink25: what is not working?
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: does it not mount or does it always mount?
[09:18] <quink25> it doesn't mount at all
[09:18] <quink25> the cd is not defective
[09:18] <quink25> slax has a similar problem on the laptop
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: okay
[09:18] <quink25> the mount of the root file system fails
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: is it detected by the kernel?
[09:18] <quink25> the root on the cd
[09:18] <quink25> is what detected by the kernel?
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: you can try pass the values: routeirq=pci
[09:19] <quink25> the cd - good question...
[09:19] <fritsch> quink25: and if nothing works, try: routeirq=pci irqpoll
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: dmesg |grep hd
[09:20] <quink25> alright, restarting
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: does this give something usefull?
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: okay, have a try
[09:20] <quink25> it doesn't even get up to that stage
[09:20] <quink25> where i have the shell
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: the cd is not your only problem?
[09:21] <quink25> unless, there's a backdoor for a shell...
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: it does not boot at all?
[09:21] <quink25> i think it is the cd-drive only that's the problem
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: ah!
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: you want to start the live cd?
[09:21] <quink25> that all linux distros can't get to mount the root file system, unless some parameters are passed on at boot time.
[09:21] <quink25> yep
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: okay, perhaps this helps
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: if not: try: acpi=off noapic (APIC, not acpi)
[09:22] <quink25> ok, routeirq=pci didn't work
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: the irqpoll is very evil ... i got a confused cdrom drive with this option ...
[09:22] <quink25> ok, i'll give that a try
[09:22] <quink25> ok
[09:22] <quink25> bbl
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: just place: routeirq=pci irqpoll acpi=off noapic nolapic
[09:23] <heinkel_111> good morning :)
[09:23] <fritsch> quink25: this sould be very hardcore though
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: moin!
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you have been in bed, too?
[09:23] <heinkel_111> yes
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you are an european, too?
[09:23] <heinkel_111> i lost my hacking powah
[09:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: yes i am norwegian
[09:39] <timothy> I need to transfer the contents of a 2.5 gig hd to this computer.  the only way I can do this is over the wireless network.  how would I do such a transfer?
[09:39] <timothy> the computer with the files is booted inte dsl linux
[09:42] <timothy> hello?
[09:42] <Jucato> I guess no one knows?
[09:42] <timothy> that sucks
[09:43] <Jucato> or maybe no one who's here right now...
[09:43] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:43] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: both computers linux?
[09:44] <timothy> the receving computer is kubntu the sending computer is danm small linux
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> use NFS
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[09:45] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: set up a share using nfs on the receiving computer, then use konqueror on the sending computer to push the files to the other one
[09:47] <blewis> Hi all.  Does anyone have a problem with opening files on smb shares with openoffice
[09:47] <timothy> ok, ill try it
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: once you have installed nfs on kubuntu you can use the gui in ssytem settings --> sharing to setup the share
[09:50] <rohit_> help!! amarok not playing mp3
[09:50] <Martijn81> is there another way to unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ besised rebooting?
[09:50] <Jucato> !mp3
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:51] <redondo81> I installed wine, what program can I run to try if it works now?
[09:51] <Martijn81> *besides
[09:51] <Jucato> rohit_: you need to install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"
[09:51] <rohit_> i did that
[09:51] <Jucato> is it already installed?
[09:51] <rohit_> yes
[09:52] <rohit_> xmms is able to play mp3 but not amarok
[09:52] <Jucato> xmms uses its own thing to play mp3's. amarok needs libxine-extracodecs
[09:52] <Jucato> check if Amarok is using the xine engine (Settings menu > Configure Amarok > Engine)
[09:53] <rohit_> yes it is
[09:53] <Jucato> hmmm
[09:53] <rohit_> how do i re-install libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <Martijn81> libmad0? Just guessing though
[09:55] <redondo81> Do you know a good ide to develop c/c++ programs under linux?
[09:55] <Jucato> redondo81: KDevelop
[09:56] <rohit_> thanks Jucato it seems to be working now!!
[09:56] <redondo81> thanks jucato
[09:56] <Jucato> wow, 2 thanks in a row ehehehe
[09:56] <rohit_> well then I will enjoy my Mp3s thanks again
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> redondo81: someone suggested this haven't got round to trying it: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots
[09:57] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:58] <whatever> how do I increase the speed of the mouse?
[09:59] <whatever> from system settings > mouse the 'pointer threshold' cannot be increased to more than 20px
[09:59] <whatever> I want it to go more than that. possible? Maybe from teh command line?
[10:00] <whatever> In which file is this setting stored?
[10:02] <kooboontu> Well I'm pleasantly surprised. I had expected to go through some hell to get sound to work using the original 6.06 LTS live cd, but this Dell's Sigmatel 92xx works.
[10:06] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[10:06] <xst> I have a CUPS problem: When I, from my local host, A, try to print to a remote CUPS-host, B, all that comes out from the printer is a sheet with some "@PJL SET foo=bar" lines on it. If I print directly from the remote box (B), the output is just fine. Not even "echo foo | lpr" is printed correctly from hos A. What to do?
[10:06] <equinoxeB> is there a page on the internet where I can find how to decrease the boot time?
[10:07] <kooboontu> equinoxeB: sure, look for things like removing unnecessary initscripts
[10:08] <quink25> nothing.
[10:09] <TheGateKeeper> equinoxeB: if you search the ubuntu forums there should be information there, mainly involves removing services that you arn't going to use
[10:11] <gan|y|med> hi. is there a way to switch runlevels with initng?
[10:13] <equinoxeB> 10x
[10:26] <Tokeiito> labas rytas (good morning)
[10:40] <amaab> !latest
[10:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:42] <Tokeiito> what soft i can use for compressing avi movie?
[10:46] <todoestaqui> anyone can help me ? on term konsole, when typed 'ls | less' => ok but when typed 'ps | less' -> bash : less: command not found ???
[10:46] <phreakys> hello
[10:54] <phreakys> hi
[10:54] <phreakys> what is the xgl-kubuntu package for?
[10:54] <phreakys> seems to be broken on my fresh kubuntu install
[10:54] <phreakys> (i know its for compiz, but i used the manual method to install before)
[10:57] <redondo81> I have a problem,I have to install JRE to visualize an applet on Firefox, how can I do?
[10:57] <phreakys> ah, did that some days back
[10:57] <phreakys> !java
[10:57] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:58] <phreakys> its there
[10:58] <redondo81> ok, thanks
[10:58] <phreakys> np
[11:00] <phreakys> removing xgl-kubuntu, seems like its trashing halve of kubuntu :S
[11:00] <redondo81> I have a problem , when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre it says to me it cannot find it,do you know why?
[11:00] <Jucato> redondo81: you need to enable the "multiverse" component of the repos
[11:01] <SubNet> hi there!
[11:01] <redondo81> and how?
[11:01] <phreakys> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:01] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:01] <phreakys> check for the universe files and add multiverse behind
[11:01] <SubNet> Anybody experienced with k9copy? Tells me it couldn't open pipe ...
[11:01] <SubNet> I have no Idea what this could be
[11:02] <fenixon> hi
[11:02] <phreakys> nope, no idea
[11:03] <fenixon> i have a question - how to change my linux theme?
[11:06] <phreakys> hm, installed xgl from jesper's script. *fingers crossed* brb
[11:09] <AquaFox> Guys.
[11:09] <AquaFox> If I idle my computer before I sleep I find it logged out.
[11:10] <AquaFox> I want my programs to keep running.
[11:10] <redondo81> I enable multiverse but nothing, it don't find it
[11:10] <AquaFox> How to fix it?
[11:10] <Jucato> redondo81: make sure that the multiverse that you enabled is on this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and not on the dapper-backports line
[11:11] <AquaFox> Help me guys?
[11:11] <phreakys> hm, no love from compiz
[11:14] <redondo81> I make a mistake a set all the repositories to multiverse!!!
[11:15] <redondo81> and now?What can I do to repair my error?
[11:15] <fdoving> redondo81: i recommend using source-o-matic
[11:15] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[11:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:19] <Martijn81> errrr, anyone used vmware on ubuntu?
[11:20] <Bazzi> yes
[11:21] <Martijn81> i am trying to install 'that other OS'... but what do i awnser as partition type, seeing that it will install in my home ext3 partition?
[11:22] <Martijn81> i mean filesystem
[11:22] <fdoving> Martijn81: you're trying to install windows?
[11:22] <Bazzi> uh?
[11:22] <fdoving> do you have free space on your harddisk?
[11:22] <fdoving> unpartitioned that is.
[11:22] <Bazzi> you should be able to create a virtual disk w/ ntfs as filesystem
[11:22] <Bazzi> which is what I recommend
[11:22] <Martijn81> fdoving: yes, with vmware workstation
[11:23] <fdoving> Martijn81: ok. then i'll just shutup. i don't know vmware :)
[11:23] <Martijn81> so... i guess it's not going to work on my ext file system
[11:24] <Bazzi> hm upgrade to vmware server then I can help you ;)
[11:24] <Martijn81> pfff, glad i asked before hitting the key :)
[11:25] <Martijn81> damn, i don' t want any fancy ntfs anymore ;(
[11:25] <Martijn81> i knew it would break me
[11:26] <redondo81> I have the new sources.list, but now how  can I copy it in etc/apt/ folder?
[11:26] <Bazzi> Martijn81: well, ntfs is on the virtual disk then, so no harm for you ;)
[11:27] <redondo81> I have to copy as root a file in a folder , how can I do?
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: with sudo
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: sudo cp /where/sources.list/is/now /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <Martijn81> redondo81: but first backup
[11:29] <redondo81> ok, done
[11:29] <Martijn81> redondo81: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_BACKUP_data
[11:29] <Martijn81> *date
[11:29] <redondo81> now, how to install jre?
[11:30] <Martijn81> Bazzi: so it doesn't mather is i install the virtual system on ext3?
[11:30] <Martijn81> *if
[11:30] <Bazzi> yeah you can install it anywhere
[11:31] <vandenoever> is there a source for cmake 2.4 in kubuntu dapper?
[11:31] <Martijn81> redondo81: apt-cache search sun
[11:32] <fdoving> vandenoever: only 2.2.3
[11:32] <redondo81> ok
[11:32] <vandenoever> fdoving: there's no backport?
[11:32] <fdoving> vandenoever: not that i'm aware of. might be anyway though.
[11:32] <vandenoever> i'm developing strigi and would like to make sure people can build it on dapper
[11:33] <Martijn81> redondo81: if sun-java5-jre is listed there you can install it with sudo apt-get install packagename
[11:33] <vandenoever> fdoving: i searched with google, is there an easier search engine for kubuntu packages?
[11:34] <fdoving> vandenoever: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <vandenoever> fdoving: hmm, ok
[11:35] <vandenoever> thanks
[11:35] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[11:37] <AquaFox> Can anybody here help me?
[11:37] <redondo81> when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre,it says me that dipendencies are not satisfied, it requests to install sun-java5-bin, but it's not installable,I don't know why!:(
[11:37] <AquaFox> I'm on Kubuntu.
[11:37] <AquaFox> And my computer is on 24/7.
[11:37] <AquaFox> Before I go to sleep I let it idle and it logs off automatically.
[11:37] <AquaFox> I don't want it to log off automatically :(.
[11:40] <phreakys> waah
[11:40] <redondo81> In adept request entry the package is signaleted as broken,why?
[11:40] <phreakys> kde is so buggy on xgl
[11:41] <redondo81> someone can help me please?:(
[11:41] <phreakys> what is broken?
[11:42] <redondo81> the sun-jre package
[11:42] <phreakys> ah
[11:42] <phreakys> try remove it manually
[11:42] <redondo81> what can I do to repair?
[11:42] <phreakys> sudo apt-get remove *package*
[11:42] <redondo81> but it's not installed
[11:42] <phreakys> and then reinstall
[11:42] <phreakys> if its marked as broken, you should remove it
[11:42] <phreakys> i did that on xgl-kubuntu an hour ago (broken too), and now it works fine
[11:43] <redondo81> but the problem is that it's not installed , it says that the request is broken
[11:44] <phreakys> yea, so try to remove the stuff remaining
[11:47] <redondo81> how can I know what version of ubuntu I have?(dapper or breezy or hoary?
[11:47] <Jucato> redondo81: in Konsole, type: lsb_release -a
[11:48] <redondo81> mine is dapper
[11:49] <Jucato> !qemu
[11:49] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:55] <phreakys> hm, is there a way to disable the xgl-windowbar on startup in kde?
[11:56] <phreakys> nm, time for a brak
[11:56] <phreakys> break
[12:00] <Martijn81> heyyyy, cool i will read that Jucato, thnx
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> hi all
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> somebody can help me about xming software and x11forwarding,
[12:07] <Piou2fois-fr> ?
[12:08] <fdoving> what is your problem?
[12:08] <Piou2fois-fr> fdoving, i can easily start all software with putty
[12:08] <Piou2fois-fr> but if i used "startkde" all is ok five minutes but freezes after
[12:09] <Piou2fois-fr> is it a way to solve this problem?
[12:09] <fdoving> hmm.. don't know, i don't use putty very much, never tried running KDE through it.
[12:10] <Piou2fois-fr> hum
[12:10] <whatever> will "aptitude purge wine" do a complete (including all settings) uninstallation of wine?
[12:10] <Piou2fois-fr> ok, can is it possible to use something else than ssh for x11forwarding?
[12:10] <fdoving> whatever: yes, system settings, not per-user settings.
[12:11] <aliasfred> Piou2fois-fr: the 5min tells me it could be an issue of screenblanker. you may try to disable it to see if it changes something
[12:11] <aliasfred> Piou2fois-fr: nx machine is much faster and allow this
[12:12] <Piou2fois-fr> nxviewer and nxserver?
[12:12] <aliasfred> i dunno :)
[12:12] <baldi> morgen
[12:12] <aliasfred> i tried it once and it IS much faster. but im no expert at all :)
[12:12] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, the freeze problem appear if for example i start firefox
[12:13] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, do you think that screensaver can start if i use x11forwarding?
[12:13] <aliasfred> maybe
[12:14] <Piou2fois-fr> arf
[12:14] <aliasfred> it was just a deduction from the fixed time you reported
[12:14] <Piou2fois-fr> i will loof for disabling this
[12:14] <aliasfred> loof ?
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> look
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> !=
[12:15] <Piou2fois-fr> :)
[12:16] <aliasfred> ;
[12:16] <Piou2fois-fr> aliasfred, it seems that no screensaver is enabled
[12:16] <aliasfred> 0
[12:16] <aliasfred> so it was not that :)
[12:16] <JohnFlux> hey all
[12:16] <JohnFlux> i'm trying to compile mythtv, but it complains it can't find  -lmp3lame
[12:16] <JohnFlux> I have liblame0  installed
[12:17] <fdoving> JohnFlux: install liblame-dev
[12:17] <JohnFlux> when I try to install  liblame-dev    apt tells me it's replaced with liblame0
[12:17] <JohnFlux> Package liblame-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:17] <JohnFlux> However the following packages replace it:
[12:17] <JohnFlux>   liblame0
[12:17] <JohnFlux> it's x86_64 arch - so maybe that's why :/
[12:17] <fdoving> hum.. could be.
[12:18] <JohnFlux> dapper btw
[12:19] <fdoving> JohnFlux: liblame-dev is installable on my dapper system.
[12:19] <JohnFlux> fdoving: x86_64 ?
[12:19] <JohnFlux> fdoving: which repos please?  I'll just get it manually
[12:19] <fdoving> no, regular x86.
[12:19] <JohnFlux> uh
[12:19] <JohnFlux> you mean i386 ?
[12:19] <fdoving> liblame-dev |   3.96.1-1 | http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[12:19] <JohnFlux> right
[12:20] <whatever> will "aptitude purge wine" do a complete uninstallation of wine?
[12:21] <JohnFlux> whatever: you'll probably want to remove  libwine as well
[12:21] <whatever> if not how do I do a complete uninstallation( including each and every setting
[12:22] <Jucato> whatever: it won't remove the hidden .wine directory in your home directory
[12:23] <whatever> so If I remove .wine libwine, then it wld be gone completely?
[12:24] <JohnFlux> whatever: i think so
[12:25] <Jucato> what "sudo aptitude purge --purge-unused wine" will do is to remove wine and whatever was installed with it presuming you installed it using aptitude. it will also remove the configuration files for these packages
[12:25] <Jucato> then you have to delete the ~/.wine directory to completely remove it
[12:25] <whatever> Jucato: K thanks a lot
[12:28] <jojo930> hi all
[12:39] <whatever> Is it possible to force aptitude/apt-get to  install old version of an app without editing sources?
[12:40] <whatever> old version being already downloaded or present in cds
[12:40] <Martijn81> whatever: might be with apt pinning, i never done it though
[12:40] <aliasfred> i dont remember the option but yes this is possible
[12:41] <aliasfred> you may look at the last xorg hickup for example
[12:41] <whatever> aliasfred: K  will try
[12:41] <whatever> hickup?
[12:41] <TheGateKeeper> where are all the deamons started on bootup please folks?
[12:42] <whatever> Jucato: removing .wine worked thanks again!
[12:42] <Jucato> whatever: no problem. glad I could help
[12:42] <whatever> TheGateKeeper: /etc/init.d
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> thanx whatever :-)
[12:42] <aliasfred> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by following the package name with an equals and the version of the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected for install. Alternatively a specific distribution can be selected by following the package name with a slash and the version of the distribution or the Archive name (stable, testing, unstable). <- from apt-get mane page, whatever
[12:42] <Jucato> heheh! that doesn't sound right... "thanks whatever..."
[12:43] <whatever> TheGateKeeper: or if you want to start your own ~/kde/Autostart/
[12:43] <aliasfred> whatever: some issue with a bogus package of xorg which produced issue so there are page explaining how to downgrade the package
[12:43] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: you could also use the System Service GUI if you need to. System Settings > System Services
[12:44] <whatever> aliasfred: Ok
[12:44] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: whatever I was just having a little play with Arch and wanted to see what kubuntu did :-)
[12:44] <Jucato> hehe
[12:45] <aliasfred> whatever: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 <- the command line to downgrabe
[12:45] <Jucato> aliasfred: would you know what the "1:" part means?
[12:45] <aliasfred> whatever: up to you to find out the version number of the version you want
[12:45] <Jucato> the version, AFAIK is just "1.0.2-0ubuntu10"
[12:45] <aliasfred> Jucato: nope :)
[12:45] <Jucato> hehe
[12:46] <fdoving> Jucato: it's branch.
[12:46] <Jucato> fdoving: oh
[12:47] <fdoving> Jucato: kde is at 4:
[12:47] <Jucato> ok thanks! I was just curious :-D
[12:49] <bobbin> Hello? Is it possible to run apps without the GUI, so that dcop can be used to execute specific bits of it in the background?
[12:50] <Jucato> I think most GUI apps need X to run. unless they have an option to run without X, like VLC
[12:54] <aliasfred> bobbin: when you say 'without gui', you mean without opening the window or without launching X at all ?
[12:56] <bobbin> aliasfred: I mean from using a KDE app in KDE but without having the window come up. Specifically, to automate use of the titlebars' context menus' "To Desktop" entry.
[12:57] <Jucato> bobbin: you can use dcop even when  there's a GUI
[12:58] <RawSewage> whats the KDE window manager called
[12:58] <Jucato> KWin
[12:58] <RawSewage> ty
[12:58] <bobbin> Jucato: Yes, but I don't want to see the GUI or have it use CPU time to display; I just want the insides.
[12:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: the 1: is the epoc it will work either way
[12:59] <Jucato> well, basically you can't have KWin running without X, AFAIK
[12:59] <Australite``> hi every one
[12:59] <Jucato> imbrandon: ehehe! thanks!  I was wondering about that for some time :-D
[12:59] <aliasfred> bobbin: you likely can prevent the window to appears, as of not taking cpu it is another thing. for those specific question, you will likely find more help on #kde-devel
[12:59] <Australite``> i am back
[01:00] <Australite``> ok to install amsn do i have to have it on my computer ?
[01:00] <Australite``> any one here ?
[01:01] <aliasfred> Australite``: well to install a software implies to have it on your computer
[01:01] <bobbin> Jucato, aliasfred: X is running, it's just the one app I don't want to see. "dcop kwin" doesn't clue me in much from the command line. I'll try my luck on kde-devel then, too.
[01:01] <Australite``> aliasfred:  for some reason i cant install amn on my computer !!!
[01:01] <Jucato> bobbin: if you're looking for dcop commands, you can try using KDCOP
[01:02] <bobbin> Jucato: I tried. I didn't find what I think I need so then I asked in here. :)
[01:03] <Jucato> bobbin: you need a dcop command to make a window switch to a specific desktop?
[01:14] <jimmy_> how do i put home n trash icons on kubu desktop?
[01:15] <Jucato> jimmy_: right click on the desktop, choose Create New > Link to URL. then in the "Enter link to location (URL):" type in "trash:/" (without the quotes). give it a name, then click OK
[01:15] <jimmy_> Jucato: thx:) anyway to put home on desktop too?
[01:16] <Jucato> same procedure, this time, put "~/" instead of trash:/
[01:17] <bobbin> Jucato: yep
[01:19] <jimmy_> Jucato: thankies!
[01:20] <waylandbill> jimmy_: you may want the "system:/" link instead. Home, Trash, and others are accessible through there.
[01:20] <Jucato> :-D
[01:24] <Australite``> hi there i am back :)
[01:24] <jimmy_> waylandbill: dats already in the panel...but thx
[01:25] <waylandbill> jimmy_: not a problem.
[01:25] <jimmy_> i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???
[01:26] <lupine_> so prefix sudo before the eject command
[01:26] <Jucato> jimmy_: try right-clicking on the CD icon in Konqueror media:/
[01:26] <jimmy_> lupine_85: isnt there a way to just rightclick on it and click unmount/eject?
[01:27] <Jucato> jimmy_: there is. in the System Menu, choose Storage Media
[01:27] <lupine_85> usually, yes. How did you mount it to begin with?
[01:27] <Jucato> then right-click on the CD icon (it will usually be a gold CD), then select Eject
[01:27] <jimmy_> Jucato: same result dude
[01:27] <jimmy_> Jucato: i did that...it says the same thing..
[01:27] <Jucato> hmm
[01:27] <lupine_85> also, the relavant line in your fstab should look like this:- /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:27] <lupine_85> note the user
[01:28] <lupine_85> if root mounts it, only root can unmount it
[01:28] <lupine_85> if you mount it through konq., then it should be mounted as a user
[01:28] <lupine_85> ...meaning you can unmount it as a user, as well :)
[01:29] <jimmy_> i'll see if things get back to normal on restart...
[01:29] <the-erm> What's wrong?
[01:29] <the-erm> I just came in.
[01:30] <jimmy_> i cant eject or unmount a cd from my dvd-rw drive.....it says "only root can unmount /media/hdd"???
[01:31] <the-erm> oh well have you tried sudo eject -r
[01:31] <the-erm> I guess it would be sudo.
[01:31] <lupine_85> via the gui ;)
[01:31] <jimmy_> ya
[01:32] <longbean> jimmy_: how did it get mounted in the first place? or did you just put the CD in and it was available?
[01:32] <the-erm> I'm pretty sure you've tried right-clicking the desktop icon, and ejecting it that way.
[01:32] <amachu> jimmy_: sudo should work
[01:32] <jimmy_> longbean: i asked kde to open it in new window
[01:32] <jimmy_> the-erm: yes i did that!!
[01:32] <Martijn81> Jimmy: check if there's no konqueror opened at that location
[01:32] <the-erm> That's weird.
[01:32] <the-erm> :)
[01:33] <jimmy_> the-erm: i hope things will be ok on restart..?
[01:33] <longbean> jimmy_: it sounds like your /etc/fstab file isn't configured quite right
[01:33] <jimmy_> :(
[01:34] <jimmy_> lemme restart....:)
[01:34] <longbean> jimmy_: anyway, to get the CD out *now*, command line is probably your only option
[01:34] <jimmy_> longbean: thx...everyone else too:)
[01:35] <the-erm> In all honesty ... restart does seem like the only option.
[01:35] <longbean> what is this "i'll see if rebooting fixes things" attitude? this isn't Microsoft
[01:35] <the-erm> Sometimes ....
[01:36] <the-erm> I've never really had a problem with ejecting myself.
[01:36] <Jucato> how about manually unmounting the partition, modifying the fstab entry, the mounting it again?
[01:36] <longbean> the command line option would've worked
[01:36] <the-erm> Usually it's a right click.
[01:36] <longbean> i think he was just scared to go there
[01:37] <the-erm> If it were a cd, I don't see any damage in doing that Jucato
[01:37] <the-erm> I can see it being a problem if you're using an actual partition.
[01:37] <the-erm> Then you would need to reboot ...
[01:37] <the-erm> Unless it wasn't being used.
[01:38] <the-erm> In all honesty I don't do enough with the fstab to be rated much more than a beginner.
[01:48] <arkygeek> hi all
[01:49] <fabian2de> hey guys... does anybody know, where to get gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad for kubuntu 6.10? I cannot find it in any repository
[01:50] <Jucato> fabian2de: 6.10? you're using Edgy?
[01:50] <Jucato> fabian2de: it will probably be where it always is: multiverse
[01:51] <fabian2de> Jucato: sorry, I meant 6.06
[01:52] <Jucato> fabian2de: i can't seem to see a "mad" plugin. what are you trying to do, btw?
[01:52] <vampiertje> hi
[01:53] <vampiertje> can somebody help me in kubuntu?
[01:53] <vampiertje> i download it and it comes in in 15 min
[01:53] <fabian2de> Jucato: I try to install amarok with moodbar support and therefor I need gstreamer including mp3-support... and in the amarokchannel was said to me, that I need gstreamer0.10-plugins-mad to do so
[01:53] <vampiertje> can somebody tells me what i must do to install something?
[01:54] <Jucato> fabian2de: I don't think we have that package. did you tell them that amarok uses xine in Kubuntu, not GStreamer?
[01:55] <fabian2de> well, amarok may use what it want to use, but the moodbar executable need gestreamer
[01:55] <longbean> vampiertje: install what? a program? the actual kubuntu system?
[01:55] <vampiertje> yep
[01:55] <vampiertje> i used ubuntu once
[01:55] <vampiertje> but
[01:56] <vampiertje> that was a mess
[01:56] <vampiertje> and i want to try kubuntu now
[01:56] <vampiertje> coose my win98 is lagging
[01:56] <longbean> vampiertje: what was the problem with ubuntu?
[01:56] <vampiertje> um
[01:57] <vampiertje> i didnt installed everything cooze it every times asked for a su
[01:57] <vampiertje> anything*
[01:57] <the-erm> It's also getting harder to get software to work in 98.
[01:57] <the-erm> M$ doesn't support it any more.
[01:57] <vampiertje> and my grub loader was stuck
[01:57] <vampiertje> when it was starting after install it didnt moved anything
[01:58] <the-erm> So you had to manually select what os you wanted tor un?
[01:58] <longbean> vampiertje: kubuntu's set up to use "su" as well
[01:59] <vampiertje> nice, but ubuntu dont uses a su or am i wrong
[01:59] <the-erm> well ... what you can do is sudo su passwd
[01:59] <the-erm> and then change it.
[01:59] <vampiertje> but whats a sudo
[01:59] <the-erm> run as root.
[01:59] <vampiertje> umm
[01:59] <vampiertje> can you explain it
[01:59] <waylandbill> actually Kubuntu is set up to use sudo. You can't su to root until you set the root password.
[01:59] <fdoving> !sudo
[01:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:00] <vampiertje> ok
[02:00] <vampiertje> so i need to set a root pass
[02:00] <vampiertje> brb
[02:00] <the-erm> yes via sudo
[02:00] <vampiertje> ok
[02:00] <vampiertje> i will try it
[02:00] <vampiertje> ty
[02:00] <vampiertje> brb
[02:00] <aliasfred> what is the window name for  'root/superuser' ? 'administrator' ?
[02:01] <the-erm> I think it can be anyone in xp.  Just have them flagged as an admin when you create their account.
[02:01] <the-erm> But I don't run xp.
[02:01] <aliasfred> ok
[02:03] <longbean> has anyone tried to upgrade to Amarok1.4.2 on dapper yet? any gotchas I should look out for?
[02:05] <the-erm> sorry I don't run amarok
[02:06] <ubuntu> hi
[02:06] <the-erm> hi
[02:14] <Martijn81> oh boy, now my sound is f_cked
[02:15] <Martijn81> thank you vmware!
[02:16] <lupine_85> longbean: it switches to xine for plugins. that's it, really
[02:17] <longbean> lupine_85: thanks. i'll fight through that somehow :P
[02:17] <lupine_85> lol
[02:17] <lupine_85> it's really good, actually. even installs needed plugins automagically
[02:17] <redondo81> Hi guys, I have a problem with firefox and jre,I installed jre but firefox doesn't see it,it ask me to install plugins, how can I do to configure it?
[02:18] <lupine_85> just put the .so file into the firefox plugins directory
[02:18] <lupine_85> IIRC, java installs into mozilla, where firefox doesn't see it
[02:18] <redondo81> and where I can find the .so file?
[02:19] <lupine_85> not sure -  I don't have it installed
[02:20] <lupine_85> probably /usr/lib/mozilla or something similar
[02:20] <redondo81> I search it
[02:20] <lupine_85> it needs to be in either ~/.firefox/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:20] <Martijn81> anyone have an idea what this "watter sound" and lower volume can be after installation of vmware? (i have removed it already, but the horror is still present)
[02:27] <redondo81> I have 2 folder one called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox, but I cannot find another folder with only mozilla
[02:28] <redondo81> I dont know how to find the .so file to put in the firefox folder
[02:29] <longbean> redondo81: you're looking under /usr/lib?
[02:30] <redondo81> yes and I have 2 folder ona called /mozilla-firefox and one /firefox only
[02:30] <redondo81> they seem to be the same
[02:30] <RawSewage> it's  .mozilla
[02:30] <RawSewage> in home folder
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> man, I've got the worst luck getting storage devices to work with firewire.
[02:31] <RawSewage>  /.mozilla
[02:31] <RawSewage> whats a .so file
[02:32] <redondo81> there isnt a mozilla folder in my home
[02:32] <RawSewage> ?
[02:32] <RawSewage> .mozilla
[02:32] <RawSewage> dot mozilla
[02:32] <redondo81> a .so file is the file to install the plugins in firefox
[02:32] <RawSewage> it's hidden
[02:32] <redondo81> how can I do to visualize it?
[02:33] <RawSewage> alt+ v+ h
[02:33] <redondo81> ok ok, I find it
[02:33] <redondo81> and now what do I have to do?
[02:33] <RawSewage> but
[02:33] <RawSewage> why are you doing it that way
[02:33] <RawSewage> you install plugins thru FF itself
[02:33] <longbean> RawSewage: java plugin. slightly more complex
[02:34] <RawSewage> oh
[02:34] <redondo81> I install jre, but firefox doesn't see it, it ask me to download the plugins
[02:34] <RawSewage> you dont do what youre doing
[02:34] <RawSewage> Ive done Java with FF before, and I never opened the FF folders
[02:34] <RawSewage> just a second
[02:35] <longbean> redondo81: copy it to the folder /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:35] <longbean> redondo81: you'll have to use sudo to do it
[02:35] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[02:35] <RawSewage> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:35] <RawSewage> do those 2 lines
[02:36] <longbean> RawSewage: he's nearly there through this method i think
[02:36] <RawSewage> ok
[02:36] <redondo81> ok, I try the RawSewage trick
[02:36] <longbean> too many different ways of doing exactly the same things sometimes
[02:36] <RawSewage> thats what Linux is all about
[02:36] <RawSewage> Choice
[02:36] <RawSewage> lol
[02:37] <RawSewage> I dont think he has the correct version of Java
[02:37] <RawSewage> maybe
[02:37] <longbean> informed choice is good
[02:37] <RawSewage> I dont know
[02:37] <RawSewage> I hate Java
[02:37] <RawSewage> I think it harkens back to the days when it killed my computer
[02:37] <RawSewage> back in the 90s
[02:38] <longbean> java's way overrated imho. but it has its uses
[02:38] <RawSewage> it slowed my computer and I'd always have to reboot when encountering a page with Java
[02:38] <redondo81> great, all works now, thank you very much
[02:38] <RawSewage> good
[02:38] <RawSewage> boomakr this page
[02:38] <RawSewage> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[02:39] <RawSewage> I need to learn Python
[02:39] <longbean> the java fanboys say that JVM speeds have increased considerably in the latest releases
[02:39] <RawSewage> people seem to love that language
[02:39] <turjan> hi
[02:39] <RawSewage> it will speed up even more once it's open source
[02:39] <longbean> i'm not much of a programmer.
[02:40] <turjan> excuse me, why will be the jvm faster when it becomes OpenSource?
[02:41] <redondo81> Remain only a small problem, the applet is not completly visualize because appears yet the firefor request to install the java plugins
[02:41] <redondo81> no no, i reloaded the page and now work perfectl
[02:41] <longbean> redondo81: good
[02:41] <RawSewage> turjan, because users and the whole world will be able to work on the code
[02:41] <RawSewage> not just a handful of paid employees
[02:42] <RawSewage> imo
[02:42] <RawSewage> that my theory
[02:42] <redondo81> I wanted to visualize the formula1 applet to see the qualification time live :)
[02:42] <redondo81> I'm a fan of Ferrari:)
[02:43] <turjan> rawsewage, the code is available since 2003 or so. The license is not called open source because it does not permit call java any derivative work
[02:43] <RawSewage> oh
[02:43] <RawSewage> it will be soon though, right
[02:44] <longbean> Sun is lukewarm on open source
[02:45] <RawSewage> lol  Sun is lukewarm
[02:45] <longbean> :P
[02:45] <turjan> XD
[02:45] <RawSewage> sorry I just woke up
[02:48] <lupine_85> java--;
[02:48] <bugunu_> hi, does anyone know how to fix 'nv' driver for X so it won't snow ? :)
[02:49] <lupine_85> use the 'nvidia' one instead?
[02:49] <lupine_85> or 'vesa'
[02:50] <bugunu_> well err, for some reason even though nvidia-glx is installed as a package, it won't load
[02:50] <bugunu_> sudo modprobe nvidia => FATAL: Module nvidia not found. (not even this, not X either)
[02:51] <lupine_85> I think you need to install the appropriate linux-restricted-modules package as well?
[02:51] <longbean> no nvidia kernel driver? odd. but should be installlable easily enough
[02:51] <lupine_85> nvidia-glx is the programs, IIRC
[02:51] <bugunu_> lupine_85: that's installed too
[02:51] <longbean> installable even
[02:51] <bugunu_> i did run nvidia-glx-config to modif xorg.conf
[02:52] <lupine_85> have you ran depmod -a and ldconfig ?
[02:52] <bugunu_> longbean: how to install nvidia kernel driver? :)
[02:52] <Dannilion> arg, I've lost all sound for Amarok again
[02:52] <bugunu_> lupine_85:  depmod -a yes but not yet ldconfig; doing it now
[02:52] <longbean> bugunu_: i don't remember the package-name offhand...
[02:52] <lupine_85> and is the .ko file actually present? (find /lib -name nvidia.ko)
[02:53] <bugunu_> lupine_85: it is not :D
[02:53] <lupine_85> (I get /lib/modules/2.6.17.9/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko but I'm not running a bog-standard Ubuntu ;) )
[02:53] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:53] <RawSewage> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:53] <bugunu_> wait, it is /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[02:53] <lupine_85> ok, try "sudo insmod  /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko"
[02:54] <RawSewage> I just told you
[02:54] <bugunu_> RawSewage: have all that thank you ;)
[02:54] <RawSewage> ok
[02:54] <lupine_85> !nvidia-kernel-common
[02:54] <ubotu> nvidia-kernel-common: NVIDIA binary kernel module common files. In component restricted, is optional. Version 20051028+1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:54] <bugunu_> Invalid module format
[02:54] <lupine_85> *another* repository?
[02:54] <RawSewage> are you sure you did exactly what I posted
[02:54] <bugunu_> oh yeah, btw, that kernel is the previous version :-"
[02:54] <lupine_85> :D
[02:54] <RawSewage> because thats how you do it
[02:55] <bugunu_> RawSewage: pretty sure yes
[02:55] <longbean> bugunu_: bingo. upgrade your modules i think
[02:55] <RawSewage> ...
[02:55] <bugunu_> RawSewage: I even did them again when u said it
[02:55] <RawSewage> copied and pasted?
[02:55] <bugunu_> longbean: ok, i'll try update then upgrade
[02:55] <RawSewage> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:55] <RawSewage> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:55] <matrix> hi guys
[02:56] <RawSewage> after you do that, you have to change  'nv' in xorg.conf to 'nvidia'
[02:56] <bugunu_> longbean: hmm, nothing upgraded
[02:56] <lupine_85> RS: yes
[02:56] <RawSewage> and maybe reboot
[02:56] <lupine_85> d'oh, sorry
[02:56] <longbean> bugunu_: what kernel version are you running and what kernel version is that nvidia module for?
[02:56] <lupine_85> no need to reboot, though
[02:56] <bugunu_> RawSewage: yes, copy/pasted :) ie. first cmd already had them installed, and second one i guess modified xorg.conf but said nothing
[02:57] <matrix> i have installed the openoffice language pack but still i can't get use the german dictonary. is this the correct package? or does oo use ispel dicts?
[02:57] <lupine_85> ok, just depmod again, then try to modprobe nvidia
[02:57] <lupine_85> if that works, you can ctrl+alt+bkspace
[02:57] <lupine_85> (assuming you're running these commands in an x terminal, of course)
[02:58] <bugunu_> RawSewage: yes, it is nvidia in xorg.conf but X says smth about nvidia module not found aborting on several lines
[02:58] <RawSewage> reboot
[02:58] <RawSewage> it's a kernel
[02:58] <RawSewage> dont kernels require reboot
[02:58] <bugunu_> longbean: Linux asystem 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[02:59] <lupine_85> it's just a kernel module
[02:59] <RawSewage> oh
[02:59] <lupine_85> you can load and unload them into a running kernel no problems
[02:59] <Jucato> (was the porper linux-restricted-modules installed?)
[02:59] <RawSewage> ok
[02:59] <lupine_85> but with ubuntu, rebooting is easier than shutting down the x server
[02:59] <lupine_85> :/
[02:59] <RawSewage> why
[02:59] <lupine_85> 'cos it annoyingly restarts itself
[02:59] <matrix> is there a default keyboard shortcut in kde to switch to the desktop and back?
[03:00] <lupine_85> back to where?
[03:00] <Jucato> virtual desktops?
[03:00] <RawSewage> no, to show the desktop
[03:00] <bugunu_> RawSewage: apparently nvidia-glx doesn't install any file in /lib/modules... nvidia.ko one - nope
[03:00] <matrix> no to my desktop, like when you click the symbol for your desktop but without using the mouse
[03:00] <Jucato> aah
[03:00] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+D
[03:00] <lupine_85> can you assign a hotkey to the applet?
[03:01] <RawSewage> Jucato, cool
[03:01] <lupine_85> or that works :)
[03:01] <matrix> oh great thanks
[03:01] <Jucato> eheheh
[03:01] <RawSewage> I wanted to know that too
[03:01] <bugunu_> RawSewage: well not if it's just a module installed;hmm maybe i should just reinstall my current kernel(+modules)
[03:01] <matrix> is there a list with default shortcut in kde ?
[03:01] <matrix> +s
[03:01] <RawSewage> bugunu_, oh well dont listen to me
[03:01] <RawSewage> Im new
[03:02] <kraut> how do i unlock the screen of a locked liveinstall desktop?
[03:02] <Jucato> matrix: yep. System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:02] <bugunu_> RawSewage: np, im new too ;) who isn't :D let's party lolz
[03:02] <lupine_85> something is missing. I'm certain that the nvidia.ko module should be in linux-restricted-modules
[03:03] <Jucato> matrix: but whatever you do, DO NOT click on the Command Shortcuts tab there... it's gonna make System Settings crash
[03:03] <bugunu_> lupine_85: i've even reinstalled linux-restricted-modules
[03:03] <lupine_85> it's not in nvidia-kernel-common or nvidia-glx
[03:03] <longbean> hunh. my system says that nvidiafb.ko is a part of the linux-image package.
[03:03] <lupine_85> you don't want that ;)
[03:03] <lupine_85> it conflicts with nvidia's driver
[03:03] <Jucato> make sure that the version of linux-restricted-modules matches the linux-image version
[03:03] <lupine_85> source of extreme anguish
[03:04] <RawSewage> bugunu_, lol
[03:04] <lupine_85> mm, you might only have the -23 version installed
[03:04] <bugunu_> lupine_85: oh wait, i have it now :-" the linux-restricted-modules for kernel 2.6.15-23 were installed automaticly but not for 2.6.15-26 which i'm using; my bad i guess
[03:04] <lupine_85> :)
[03:04] <utab> hey guys how to view WMV files, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs says it works for all except wmv
[03:04] <matrix> Jucato: atleast switching forth and back between the command shortcuts tab and the shortcut schemes tab doesn't break anything here
[03:04] <bugunu_> lupine_85: thanks ;)
[03:04] <Jazon> is it unusual for my ram to be at about 40% and my swap also around 300mb???  I have over a gig of ram
[03:05] <larson9999> hmmm, i'm using thunderbird and noticed something that seems to not work the way you'd want.  i created an email and tried to send it all while i was disconnected from the net.  i got an error message that the email couldn't be sent but the email itself seems to have disappeared.  does that sound right or am i on crack?
[03:05] <Jucato> matrix: ehehe yeah.. buggy ain't it?
[03:05] <lupine_85> utab: w32codecs works for all except encrypted (and wmv9?) files
[03:05] <bugunu_> and sorry (all) for all the trouble - one problem solved ;)
[03:05] <matrix> Jucato: i can't see any bug here. but i don't want to stress it either :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> larson9999: Is it in your Sent? Drafts?
[03:05] <utab> lupine_85 how to get them
[03:05] <yannux> hye everybody
[03:05] <longbean> bugunu_: np, it was educational
[03:05] <lupine_85> use the plf repos
[03:05] <yannux> does anyone already setup pureftpd with postgresql ?
[03:05] <lupine_85> be aware that if you're in the US then you'll be doing something illegal ;)
[03:06] <larson9999> bugunu_: the .26 version is in another repository.
[03:06] <Jucato> bugunu_: to be able to install the -26 linux-restricted-modules, make sure that the "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main" has "restricted" included
[03:06] <utab> lupine_85 they are not supported and may break the system or once happended to me
[03:06] <matrix> so now i need to figure out how i can make use of my additional dictionaries in oo. i have installed german, ispell, aspell and the german language pack for oo but can't choose the dictonary when i use spellcheck.
[03:06] <vampiertje> hi
[03:06] <vampiertje> done
[03:06] <matrix> has anybody setup different dicts in oo before?
[03:06] <vampiertje> ive got kubuntu now
[03:07] <matrix> vampiertje: grats, have fun with it
[03:07] <larson9999> Jucato: i wonder why that isn't spelled out more prominately?  it seems to be the number 1 reason kernel upgrades with nvidia cards "don't work"
[03:08] <Jucato> larson9999: I think it is fixed in the 6.06.1 installers. I'm not sure though. So far, no one has been able to give me an answer to that same  question
[03:08] <Jucato> other than a possible error/bug
[03:08] <lupine_85> suppose .deb isn't smart enough to realise that updating linux-image to -26 means that you need to update linux-restricted-modules to -26 as well, if installed
[03:08] <Jucato> utab: just download the w32codec .deb file from here: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/
[03:08] <lupine_85> conditional dependencies--
[03:09] <Jucato> lupine_85: actually that's not the problem.
[03:09] <lupine_85> so what is?
[03:09] <larson9999> yeah, but it would seem that even in the 'help places' it would be spelled out more.
[03:09] <Jucato> lupine_85: the problem is that the newer linux-image resides in the main section of dapper-security. while the newer linux-restricted-modules reside in the restricted section of dapper-security
[03:09] <lupine_85> ah, got you
[03:10] <lupine_85> and of course, dapper-security restricted isnt' enabled by default
[03:10] <Jucato> it seems so, at least in the 6.06 installers
[03:10] <Jucato> but restricted is not only not enabled, it's also not in the sources.list
[03:10] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah but lupine_85 is correct too because if that dependency were set, you'd get an error message that the other stuff couldn't be installed because one of the packages couldn't be installed
[03:11] <Jucato> larson9999: but linux-image is not dependent on linux-restricted-modules, is it?
[03:12] <josh__> whats up people? got a problem with my network config ( i think). i cant traceroute anything
[03:12] <larson9999> Jucato: right.  but i thought that's what lupine_85 was saying that maybe it should be if you have  linux-restricted-modules installed.  that kinda dependency seems hard to deal with though
[03:12] <josh__> i just tried from the windows side and it works fine
[03:12] <josh__> my iptables are set to accept, my router doesn't block icmp
[03:13] <josh__> i dont know where to start looking for the trouble... any ideas?
[03:13] <Jucato> larson9999: it would work only if linux-image was dependent on linux-restricted modules. if that were the case, the package manager would detect that one of the dependencies (linux-restricted-modules) does not match the package being upgraded (linux-image).
[03:14] <lupine_85>  larson9999: i was mistaken. If dapper-security restricted was enabled by default, apt would pick up the update to linux-restricted at the same time as it picked u pthe update to linux-image
[03:14] <lupine_85> hence, conditional dependency not required
[03:15] <josh__> any ideas?
[03:15] <larson9999> Jucato: right and that seems like something you wouldn't want to do but if the conditional dependency could be set up it would catch this, too.
[03:15] <Jucato> It just might be the reason why some recommend that you install the linux-<insert architecture here) meta-package instead
[03:15] <larson9999> lupine_85: but i don't think security will every be enabled by default.  isn't that the reason it's called 'security'?
[03:16] <aliasfred> josh__: window on the same box does traceroute ok ?
[03:16] <lupine_85> ...
[03:16] <srdjant> what's this in /topic about broken X?
[03:16] <josh__> yep
[03:16] <lupine_85> security *should* be enabled by default
[03:16] <larson9999> anyway, it just seems to me that when the upgrade fails and you go searching for why, this reason doesn't POP out in the search results like it would seem like it should
[03:17] <aliasfred> josh__: 'iptables -L' gives you some results ?
[03:17] <lupine_85> srdjant: update to xorg-xserver-core-10.3 (or something like that) broke X
[03:17] <lupine_85> 10.4 (the current) fixed it
[03:17] <Jucato> larson9999: I try to mention it as much as I can in the forums
[03:17] <larson9999> lupine_85: oh, i got it backwards? i thought security was for things that weren't safe.
[03:17] <josh__> yeah, all accepted
[03:17] <srdjant> lupine_85: thanks.
[03:17] <longbean> josh__: does "traceroute -I" work?
[03:17] <lupine_85> security is patches to fix unsafe things :)
[03:17] <Jucato> and I think that the new installers have already been fixed
[03:17] <josh__> and i dont have a firewall (firestarter) or anything else
[03:17] <aliasfred> josh__: you mean you got a firewall ?
[03:17] <aliasfred> ah ok
[03:17] <larson9999> lupine_85: there i go getting things backwards again
[03:18] <josh__> traceroute -l doesn't work either
[03:18] <srdjant> also why does /etc/sudoers have root    ALL=(ALL) ALL ? I read in linux format that this is a bit insecure...
[03:18] <josh__> no, i have no firewall installed
[03:18] <aliasfred> josh__: hmm 'traceroute -n google.com'
[03:18] <josh__> i tried traceroute -n www.yahoo.com
[03:19] <aliasfred> and ?
[03:19] <ubuntu> hi all
[03:19] <josh__> nothing happened (by nothing i mean everything timed out * * *)
[03:19] <Jucato> larson9999: I think this is just a pure human error. I do not recall seeing this in Breezy
[03:19] <aliasfred> hmm real weird
[03:19] <whizz-> when i updated xserver-xorg-core a few days back, i couldn't boot into the gui anymore... has this issue been resolved already?
[03:19] <josh__> yeah, confusing me too
[03:19] <Jucato> whizz-: yes
[03:19] <aliasfred> josh__: 'traceroute localhost'
[03:19] <whizz-> Jucato: ok, thx
[03:19] <josh__> i cant think of anything that would block me off the top of my head :(
[03:19] <Jucato> the latest xserver-xorg-core upgrade should be the fixed package
[03:19] <larson9999> Jucato: that makes sense because if that's where the security fixes go, you'd want it enabled by default for sure.
[03:19] <josh__> that worked
[03:20] <darkdevil> http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[03:20] <josh__> traceroute localhost provided a response...
[03:20] <aliasfred> josh__: ok now try the first router you got. like asdl modem or such
[03:20] <vampiertje> pompidom
[03:20] <vampiertje> it works!
[03:20] <ubuntu> How can i change the language (menu etc( of kubuntu
[03:20] <vampiertje> but now its time to set an sudo
[03:20] <josh__> cable
[03:20] <srdjant> what's new in xserver-xorg-core 10.4?
[03:20] <Jucato> larson9999: yes. except that if you install without an active/enable internet connection, all repositories are disable by default. But again, the issue wasn't really about dapper-security being disabled, but about the missing "restricted" component in that line.
[03:20] <josh__> traced to router
[03:20] <aliasfred> josh__: ok you got its ip ? you can get it from 'ip route'
[03:21] <Jucato> srdjant: yes
[03:21] <Mick7> hello
[03:21] <josh__> yeah it made it to the router
[03:21] <Jucato> 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:21] <Mick7> excuse me..opensuse exist also for amd64?
[03:21] <aliasfred> josh__: hmm but nothing beyond this router ?
[03:21] <josh__> apparantly
[03:21] <srdjant> Jucato: 'yes' in response to which question?
[03:21] <josh__> lol
[03:21] <josh__> which is odd i think
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: but window works from the same box
[03:22] <josh__> because windows sucks but it can get out fine... :(
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: am lost :)
[03:22] <longbean> ubuntu: there should be a "regional and accessibility" section in the control panel
[03:22] <Jucato> srdjant: lol. sorry. I was meant to say xserver-xorg-core version 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: all i can see if window doing upnp to the router
[03:22] <aliasfred> josh__: but i would be surprised :)
[03:22] <srdjant> Jucato: I was asking what's new in that version.....
[03:22] <Mick7> opensuse for amd64????
[03:23] <Jucato> ooh
[03:23] <Jucato> sorry
[03:23] <srdjant> :)
[03:23] <darkdevil> Mick7: have you tried joining #suse or #opensuse and asking there?
[03:23] <srdjant> Mick7: what's opensuse got to do with this channel?
[03:23] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:23] <Mick7> no no excuse me
[03:23] <Mick7> i want to say
[03:23] <Mick7> openoffice :)
[03:23] <Mick7> openoffice for amd64?
[03:24] <srdjant> you could compile it :P
[03:24] <josh__> :(
[03:24] <darkdevil> lol, takes forever, but u cud
[03:25] <josh__> what port does traceroute use?
[03:25] <josh__> 77?
[03:26] <darkdevil> outbound port? not a clue
[03:26] <josh__> well it wouldn't matter anyway cuz im the dmz
[03:27] <lupine_85> depends on the traceroute :)
[03:27] <lupine_85> have you tried tcptraceroute?
[03:27] <lupine_85> is normal internet working?
[03:27] <josh__> yes
[03:27] <longbean> manpage for traceroute says the default base port is UDP port 33434. you can change it with "-p"
[03:27] <lupine_85> OK, the problem then is likely that *nix and windows uses different traceroute methods
[03:28] <lupine_85> you can have UDP, ICMP OR TCP
[03:28] <lupine_85> Your router could well be dropping ICMP (many do) by defaulty
[03:28] <lupine_85> default*
[03:28] <josh__> im actually ssh'ed to my home computer and from home back to here...
[03:28] <lupine_85> fun :)
[03:28] <josh__> really... hmm... lemme check the router settings one more time
[03:28] <lupine_85> try installing tcptraceroute and doing a trace with that
[03:29] <srdjant> doesn't traceroute use ICMP by default
[03:29] <srdjant> ?
[03:29] <lupine_85> not sure
[03:29] <lupine_85> but if it does, that's likely the problem
[03:29] <josh__> tcptraceroute dont work either...
[03:30] <longbean> traceroute sends out UDP packets with a ttl designed to return an "ICMP error exceeded" error message from hosts
[03:30] <Jucato> does anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?
[03:30] <aliasfred> if it works with window on the same box, the router conf is find
[03:30] <aliasfred> fine
[03:30] <longbean> that's the linux default anyway
[03:30] <srdjant> oh wait, I think I was wrong - it just changes the TTL and then waits for the ICMP messages back from routers and gateways.
[03:31] <lupine_85> ok, windows is ICMP, linux is UDP (by default)
[03:31] <lupine_85> which is opposite to what I was thinking
[03:31] <josh__> but my router doesn't block udp
[03:31] <josh__> andi am set as dmzhost
[03:31] <aliasfred> josh__: does ping works ok ?
[03:31] <josh__> it blocks nothing to my comp
[03:31] <josh__> yes ping works fine
[03:32] <josh__> ok linux uses udp...?
[03:32] <lupine_85> yes
[03:32] <josh__> i thought udp was for multicast
[03:32] <lupine_85> no :)
[03:32] <lupine_85> udp is an alternative to tcp
[03:32] <josh__> or broadcasting rather
[03:32] <lupine_85> they both run over ip
[03:32] <lupine_85> udp is stateless, tcp isn't
[03:33] <srdjant> udp can do broadcast
[03:33] <aliasfred> udp is the most mistunderstood protocol, even if it is so trivial :)
[03:33] <josh__> yeah but i was under the inpression that udp doesn't need responses.... it just sends..?
[03:33] <lupine_85> so can tcp
[03:33] <josh__> impression
[03:33] <lupine_85> josh: yes
[03:33] <lupine_85> there's no guarantee of a response
[03:34] <lupine_85> do you want me to try and traceroute the box?
[03:34] <lupine_85> or is the IP a secret? ;)
[03:34] <gareth> hi
[03:34] <josh__> lol well i would rather not braodcast it in here... lemme register real quick
[03:34] <gareth> Wondering if anyone can help me work out something about katapult?
[03:34] <lupine_85> k
[03:34] <josh__> how do i do that again? lol its been a few years
[03:34] <Jucato> gareth: what about it?
[03:35] <Jucato> josh__: /msg nickserv register ?
[03:35] <josh__> thanks :)
[03:35] <gareth> It's supposed to be able to launch a song in amarok, but when i try it i get this error from amarok "
[03:35] <gareth> Error Loading Media
[03:35] <gareth> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported.
[03:35] <gareth> ./home/gareth/Music/Avenged Sevenfold - (2003) - Waking The Fallen/12-avenged_sevenfold-and_all_things_will_end-ph.mp3
[03:35] <josh__> how do i change my name?
[03:35] <lupine_85>   /nick
[03:36] <j2daosh> there we go
[03:36] <Jucato> gareth: can you play MP3's normally, in Amarok, for example?
[03:36] <GarethMB> Yes
[03:37] <j2daosh> amarok needs mp3 support
[03:37] <Jucato> GarethMB: does this only happen to this particular song? or any MP3?
[03:37] <GarethMB> any mp3,
[03:37] <GarethMB> but only when i use katapult
[03:37] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:37] <GarethMB> i believe the problem is:
[03:37] <j2daosh> i use xms (winamp for linux) :)
[03:37] <Jucato> let me try
[03:37] <j2daosh> xmms
[03:37] <GarethMB> the url is exported with a . before it. which amarok can't handle. Could this be the case?
[03:38] <Jucato> GarethMB: that . shouldn't be there at all
[03:38] <GarethMB> Ok, i thought as much
[03:38] <GarethMB> is there a way to tell katapult not to export the url with the ./home
[03:38] <Jucato> but.. it also doesn't seem to work here
[03:38] <Jucato> hmm..
[03:39] <GarethMB> ^^
[03:39] <needanickname> is git available in kubuntu?
[03:39] <aliasfred> can you cut/paste the url that amarok receive in this case, GarethMB
[03:39] <GarethMB> sure
[03:40] <GarethMB> ./home/gareth/Music/B/Black Label Society/Mafia/15 - I Never Dreamed(Bonus Track).mp3
[03:40] <aliasfred> well this is a bug :)
[03:40] <Jucato> yep definitely a bug
[03:40] <aliasfred> in katapult i mean, as it depends on the current directory of the application
[03:40] <GarethMB> Hmm, guess i need to check the kde bugzilla?
[03:40] <aliasfred> yep a bug in katapult
[03:41] <CVirus> whats katapult
[03:41] <CVirus> ?
[03:41] <Jucato> !katapult
[03:41] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:42] <aliasfred> or maybe amarok add this . in its dcop stuff
[03:42] <GarethMB> it can launch bookmarks, and it should launch music
[03:42] <Jucato> probably not amarok, coz it only accepts what Katapult would be throwing at it
[03:43] <CVirus> OMG ... katapult is freakin great
[03:43] <CVirus> oops
[03:43] <GarethMB> it would be even better without this bug lol
[03:43] <SeanTater> I cannot mount my camera: it says A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")
[03:44] <GarethMB> http://bugs.kde.org/simple_search.cgi?id=katapult , here are the katapult bugs. Can someone check that its definitely not been reported before
[03:44] <vampiertje> oh no
[03:44] <ninHer> hi all
[03:44] <vampiertje> i stucked my adept
[03:44] <vampiertje> does anyone knows how to reset adept?
[03:46] <lupine_85> reset?
[03:46] <Jucato> vampiertje: what were you trying to do and what happened?
[03:46] <lupine_85> as in, kill the process?
[03:46] <lupine_85> or as in, reset the database
[03:47] <vampiertje> well
[03:47] <lupine_85> (the former is 'sudo killall adept', the latter is - rightly - impossible)
[03:47] <vampiertje> i tried to add /home/wouter to adept
[03:47] <vampiertje> and then it crashed
[03:48] <j2daosh> what is /home/wouter?
[03:48] <vampiertje> thats a map in my pc
[03:48] <lupine_85> malformed repository? assuming that's what wouter is
[03:48] <lupine_85> adept really dislikes malformed repos
[03:49] <GarethMB> You need to edit your sources file
[03:49] <CVirus> can katapult launch any file on my hard disk ? or mp3's only ?
[03:50] <GarethMB> vampiertje sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <GarethMB> and then delete the repository you added
[03:50] <Jucato> CVirus: it has 5 catalogs to search from, AFAIK: Programs, Amarok, Documents, BOokmarks, and Calculator
[03:50] <GarethMB> make a backup first!
[03:51] <Martijn81> i thought it would be fun to let you know what solved my "under water sound" problem after the install of vmware
[03:51] <Martijn81> i unplugged the mic of my sennheiser out of the pc, and all is fine again
[03:52] <Martijn81> really weird, never had that
[03:52] <GarethMB> so this katapult bug, is this a good idea for a name for it: Katapult exports URL to Amarok with a period preceeding URL ?
[03:52] <roboso> but there aren't italian chan????
[03:53] <aliasfred> !it
[03:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:53] <roboso> ok thanks!
[03:53] <aliasfred> GarethMB: 'katapult exporting malformed url to amarok' ?
[04:00] <duncan_> hello wguys!
[04:00] <duncan_> guys!
[04:00] <duncan_> a question for all of you
[04:00] <duncan_> where can I change my mouse speed?
[04:00] <lupine_85> kcontrol ?
[04:01] <duncan_> thx lupine!
[04:01] <lupine_85> "Pointer acceleration" is what you want
[04:01] <duncan_> kcontrol
[04:01] <lupine_85> aka. the control panel
[04:01] <duncan_> where can I find that =(
[04:01] <duncan_> aaaah ok
[04:01] <duncan_> xD
[04:02] <duncan_> system settings you mean
[04:02] <lupine_85> old habits die hard, etc :)
[04:02] <lupine_85> yes
[04:02] <lupine_85> then hardware->mouse->advanced
[04:02] <duncan_> ok ok :)
[04:02] <duncan_> got it
[04:03] <misieq> pgadmin3 sez that my postgresql server (8.1.4, running on kubuntu) lacks instrumentation, what package contains that? i've read description of postgresql-contrib-8.1 but it ain't there
[04:03] <GarethMB> Here is the katapult bug report. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133030 if you to vote for it.
[04:03] <duncan_> but everything is so big on
[04:03] <duncan_> wtf can't use key pada nymore:s
[04:03] <duncan_> numlock is on
[04:04] <duncan_> 1024x768 , everything is so big in comparisson with microsoft
[04:04] <charims> Will someone please help me with my sound problem, you can view the details here. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244018
[04:04] <lupine_85> linux apps just stretch out more
[04:04] <duncan_> yeah clearly ^
[04:04] <duncan_> ^
[04:05] <duncan_> In my opinion it is not as efficient
[04:05] <lupine_85> despite having the ability to have a 320x240 screen
[04:05] <duncan_> as microsoft
[04:05] <lupine_85> true
[04:05] <duncan_> ok
[04:05] <duncan_> :)
[04:05] <lupine_85> you could try a virtual desktop?
[04:05] <duncan_> nah
[04:05] <lupine_85> say, 1600x1200
[04:05] <duncan_> I can't go higher
[04:05] <duncan_> than 1024x768
[04:05] <lupine_85> the idea is, the desktop stays at 1024x768
[04:05] <lupine_85> but the screen area available is larger
[04:06] <duncan_> ah ok
[04:06] <lupine_85> so your screen is like a "window" to the true desktop
[04:06] <duncan_> ah cool
[04:06] <lupine_85> takes some getting used to though, because you can't see the whole screen
[04:06] <duncan_> yeah I had difficulty by setting up mp
[04:06] <duncan_> mp3
[04:07] <duncan_> my numbers don't work anymore :s strange
[04:07] <lupine_85> is numlock on? ;)
[04:07] <duncan_> yes!
[04:07] <duncan_> when I press them
[04:07] <duncan_> my pointer moves
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[04:07] <zerotime> * Ci-Dev_ is now known as Ci-Dev
[04:08] <lupine_85> you accidentally turned on pointer movement-by-numpad
[04:08] <duncan_> ok
[04:08] <lupine_85> so go back into the mouse control panel and turn it off ;)
[04:08] <lupine_85> (last tab, IIRC)
[04:08] <duncan_> ok thx!
[04:08] <duncan_> yeah I just changed it
[04:08] <duncan_> lupine, can I have ur msn?
[04:08] <duncan_> for hel p in kubuntu
[04:08] <lupine_85> sorry, don't use msn
[04:08] <duncan_> huh?
[04:08] <lupine_85> channel is usually best anyway
[04:08] <duncan_> aim?
[04:08] <duncan_> gtalk?
[04:08] <lupine_85> nope :)
[04:09] <duncan_> lolz xD
[04:09] <duncan_> ok
[04:09] <duncan_> so I download ndswrapper
[04:09] <lupine_85> IRC and usenet for me :)
[04:09] <duncan_> how do I install it after that?
[04:10] <lupine_85> you need the windows drivers for your card
[04:10] <lupine_85> specifically the .inf and .sys files
[04:10] <charims> you can use the ndiswrapper package off your cd, much easier, and you don't have to compile it
[04:10] <duncan_> cd?
[04:10] <charims> your kubuntu cd that is
[04:10] <duncan_> ooookkk
[04:10] <duncan_> I just put it in and it works
[04:10] <duncan_> seems easy
[04:11] <Jucato> does anyone here know if Konversation truncates it's chat logs after a certain time/amount?
[04:11] <lupine_85> never had it do that to me
[04:11] <lupine_85> and i've got some long logs ;
[04:11] <lupine_85> ;) *
[04:11] <Jucato> ehehe thanks.
[04:11] <fabian2de> hey guys.... since I updated to kde 3.5.4 I cannot change the settings of my taskbar, because it is locked... how can I unlock it?
[04:11] <charims> hey, anyone able to help me with ym sound problem
[04:11] <Jucato> I was afraid that I might one day be surprised that my logs are a few days short...
[04:11] <charims> ?
[04:11] <Jucato> fabian2de: right-click "Unlock Panels"?
[04:12] <fabian2de> Jucato: well... then nothing happens
[04:12] <duncan_> ffs can't open dvd drive:(
[04:12] <fabian2de> Jucato: I read somithing about new config files in the forums but I didn't understood it
[04:12] <osoh> hi
[04:13] <duncan_> lupinee :p you there?
[04:13] <charims> hey, pparently you have a connection to the interent from the computer that needs ndiswrapper, right?
[04:13] <duncan_> if you've got wifi
[04:13] <duncan_> that is
[04:13] <charims> you can also get the package for ndiswrapper
[04:14] <charims> from the server
[04:14] <GarethMB> Righty, i'm off now. Thanks guys.
[04:14] <charims> duncan, do you have a connection to the internet from the pc that needs ndiswrapper?
[04:15] <Jucato> fabian2de: I'm not sure, I didn't have that problem. what happens when you right-click on the panel and select Unlock Panels?
[04:16] <duncan_> ok ok got it in
[04:16] <duncan_> lupine ;p
[04:16] <duncan_> no
[04:16] <duncan_> charmis
[04:16] <duncan_> I do not
[04:16] <charims> ok
[04:16] <duncan_> I just have UTP
[04:16] <duncan_> I gave up on ndswraper
[04:16] <duncan_> I'm trying it now
[04:16] <duncan_> :p
[04:16] <charims> just checking, good luck
[04:16] <duncan_> yes
[04:16] <duncan_> I am totally new
[04:16] <duncan_> to this
[04:16] <charims> haha, so am i
[04:16] <charims> i installed ndiswrapper yesterday tho
[04:16] <duncan_> I'm so sick
[04:16] <duncan_> yes?
[04:17] <duncan_> how did you install ndswrapper?
[04:17] <duncan_> ndiswrapper
[04:17] <duncan_> ??
[04:17] <fabian2de> Jucato: absolutely nothing... the menu disappers and the lock is even enabled
[04:17] <charims> well, just got the debian package off the cd, installed it, and then i did a few qucik konsole commands with my inf file
[04:17] <bubukde> no sound with x-plane, who can help meeeeeeeeeeee
[04:17] <duncan_> what commands did you do to install it?
[04:18] <charims> there is a readme with ndiswrapper
[04:18] <duncan_> n the cd?
[04:18] <Jucato> fabian2de: try this. go to ~/.kde/share/config/ and open up the file "kickerrc"
[04:19] <charims> no readme on the cd tho
[04:19] <charims> :(
[04:19] <charims> at least, i dont think there is
[04:19] <duncan_> ok
[04:19] <duncan_> wher eis the readme than?
[04:19] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper -h should explain
[04:19] <lupine_85> or man ndiswrapper
[04:19] <charims> haha
[04:19] <fabian2de> Jucato: okay
[04:19] <charims> lmemme see
[04:19] <Jucato> fabian2de: then look for a line that says "Locked=true" and set it to "Locked=false"
[04:20] <Jucato> fabian2de: save the file
[04:20] <duncan_> I'm gonna download ndiswrapper
[04:20] <fabian2de> Jucato: "Locked" is not in the file
[04:21] <Jucato> hmm...
[04:21] <Jucato> maybe it's in another config file...
[04:21] <charims> duncan, i can send you the readme in just a sec
[04:21] <duncan_> ok
[04:21] <duncan_> send it to me on msn?
[04:22] <fir3> hi
[04:22] <duncan_> Hi Fire
[04:22] <fir3> someone here using kubuntu on the macbook?
[04:23] <duncan_> have you got a macbooK?
[04:23] <fabian2de> Jucato: so, I killed kicker now an then I started it from the terminal, now when I click on "Unlock Panels" the followin appers in the Terminal:
[04:23] <duncan_> why the hell what you want to use kubuntu on a macbook?
[04:23] <fir3> duckdown, yep
[04:23] <duncan_> os x = best
[04:23] <fabian2de> Jucato: kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::writeConfig() kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::readConfig()
[04:23] <duncan_> brb
[04:24] <Jucato> fabian2de: did your upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 went without problems?
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone in here that remembers how I fought with Suspend to RAM on Kubuntu a while ago?
[04:24] <fabian2de> Jucato: I think yes, nothing was said by aptitude, so I think nothing bad happened
[04:24] <Jucato> fabian2de: did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[04:25] <fabian2de> Jucato: upgrade, why?
[04:25] <duncan_> thx
[04:25] <charims> yup ;)
[04:25] <Jucato> fabian2de: did it say that it will remove kdelibs4-bin?
[04:25] <charims> i can send you the whole package if you want to attempt a self-compile
[04:25] <duncan_> hubba bubba :p what color is my nick btw?
[04:25] <duncan_> xD
[04:25] <duncan_> ?
[04:25] <j2daosh> who uses konversation in here?
[04:25] <charims> me
[04:25] <VincentMX> i do
[04:25] <Jucato> j2daosh: me too
[04:25] <j2daosh> how do i setup the auto identify?
[04:26] <j2daosh> the service is what?
[04:26] <j2daosh> nickserv?
[04:26] <VincentMX> yes
[04:26] <Jucato> j2daosh: try NickServ
[04:26] <j2daosh> ok
[04:26] <fabian2de> Jucato: well... I don't know... its been a while since I upgraded.. maybe 3 or 4 days ago...
[04:26] <j2daosh> i did /msg nickserv
[04:26] <j2daosh> lol
[04:26] <charims> hey, duncan, are you getting the file, or should i re-send
[04:26] <VincentMX> just set your nickserv password as server password for freenode
[04:26] <duncan_> re-send
[04:26] <duncan_> ffs
[04:26] <Jucato> aaah
[04:26] <duncan_> why doens't opera save my settings?
[04:26] <lupine_85> what version of konversation are you using?
[04:26] <duncan_> dno
[04:26] <j2daosh> brb
[04:26] <duncan_> latest one?
[04:26] <lupine_85> there's a repo for nightly versions
[04:27] <duncan_> 0.19
[04:27] <duncan_> btw
[04:27] <duncan_> how do I save my settings in oprea
[04:27] <duncan_> opera
[04:27] <Jucato> fabian2de: hmm...
[04:27] <charims> no idea
[04:27] <duncan_> I always change zoom from 100 to 80
[04:27] <duncan_> and when I boot again
[04:27] <lupine_85> 0.19 has a memory leak and some other problems
[04:27] <duncan_> it's back to 100
[04:27] <Jucato> fabian2de: so is Kicker running now?
[04:27] <fabian2de> Jucato: yeah
[04:28] <Jucato> fabian2de: ok let's try this again... this time go to /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ and look for kickerrc again
[04:28] <charims> hey, duncan, the file isnt transferring, maybe someone can help us, we both use konversation right?
[04:28] <Jucato> fabian2de: right-click on it, select Actions > Edit as Root
[04:28] <j2daosh> ok
[04:28] <j2daosh> we good now :)
[04:28] <duncan_> yeah I use konversation
[04:28] <j2daosh> next question... who in here has used the gnome version of ubuntu?
[04:29] <lupine_85> gnome--
[04:29] <Jucato> me too, for about a few weeks
[04:29] <duncan_> it messed up my windows partition
[04:29] <duncan_> xd
[04:29] <duncan_> xD
[04:29] <charims> i did for a while
[04:29] <Jucato> btw, there is no GNOME version of Ubuntu :-D
[04:29] <j2daosh> ok, are you aware of the gnome-art manager application?
[04:29] <fabian2de> Jucato: okay, its open now
[04:29] <lupine_85> gNObuntu?
[04:29] <j2daosh> Jucato: ok... the gnome desktop version of uuntu
[04:29] <j2daosh> ubuntu
[04:29] <Jucato> fabian2de: now look for a line again with Locked=true and turn it to false
[04:30] <fabian2de> Jucato: there is no line showing "Locked" again
[04:30] <Jucato> fabian2de: how are you searching within Kate? Ctrl+F?
[04:30] <j2daosh> well gnome-art was a package that would connect to the gnome servers and would install backgrounds, login splash screens, toolbars the whole nine... does kde have anything like that?
[04:30] <Jucato> j2daosh: yes. but it's currently buggy at the moment
[04:30] <fabian2de> well, I use `sudo joe`... and then ctrl+k+f
[04:31] <j2daosh> what is it?
[04:31] <j2daosh> ill help find bugs :)
[04:31] <Jucato> j2daosh: but only for certain "themes" like backgrounds, Kopete themes, etc.
[04:32] <j2daosh> thats ok by me... i just wanna see some art :P
[04:32] <j2daosh> some background/splash art, stuff like that
[04:32] <Jucato> j2daosh: for example: right-click on the desktop > Configure Desktop > Background options
[04:32] <Jucato> there's a
[04:32] <j2daosh> yeah like that but i want the ones from the server
[04:32] <Jucato> Get New Wallpapers
[04:33] <j2daosh> oh ok
[04:33] <needanickname> uhm
[04:33] <Jucato> BUT... 2 tabs in that dialog box are disabled, KDE 3.5.4 Kubuntu bug...
[04:33] <j2daosh> lol looks like you found a nickname
[04:33] <charims> i have a sound problem, will someone help me
[04:33] <charims> ?
[04:33] <j2daosh> what tabs? all 3 of my tabs are operational..?
[04:34] <needanickname> yea.. kubuntu isnt letting me set the permissions to an ntfs file mount
[04:34] <j2daosh> needanickname: u cant... it will mount as read only... well unless you want to experiment...
[04:34] <Jucato> fabian2de: when you search, make sure that you disable the "Case sensitive" option
[04:34] <Jucato> j2daosh: the Most Downloads and Latest tabs
[04:34] <needanickname> j2, it mounts as read only, but the only person who can read is root
[04:35] <j2daosh> both of those are operational for me
[04:35] <j2daosh> ahh
[04:35] <j2daosh> u need to use the "users" option
[04:35] <Jucato> j2daosh: try clicking on a theme and see if it's still operational
[04:35] <j2daosh> ahh... gotcha Jucato
[04:35] <Nerevar> so... it seems  i cant get most live linux cds running on my computer anymore
[04:36] <Nerevar> so far i have tried kubuntu and pclinuxos, both had the same result
[04:36] <Nerevar> it hangs at mounting file system
[04:36] <charims> Hey, Nerevar, u like Morrowind?
[04:36] <Jucato> fabian2de: try it again with the other kickerrc file, you might have searched for "locked" but with case sensitivity on, it won't find "Locked"
[04:36] <Nerevar> yeah, i am a huge morrowind fan.
[04:36] <charims> i can tell ;)
[04:36] <j2daosh> lol
[04:36] <Nerevar> grin
[04:37] <needanickname> if youre the nerevar, then i'm the grey fox :p
[04:37] <Nerevar> You n'wah! hehe\
[04:37] <charims> haha
[04:37] <fabian2de> Jucato: I solved it on my own now :) (I added "Locked=false" in the "General"-Section of ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and then I restarted kicker and it worked :) thanks alot!!)
[04:37] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:37] <Jucato> ok glad you were able to solve it
[04:38] <charims> if someone could help me with my sound rpoblem, i can give them specifics in dcc chat
[04:38] <Nerevar> so i looked at the kubuntu forum - there are like 8 pges of people having the same problem as i
[04:38] <needanickname> .. i wanna listen to my music on my ntfs drive =(
[04:38] <j2daosh> needanickname: this is what you need to do
[04:39] <j2daosh> sudo vim /etc/fstab
[04:39] <Jucato> j2daosh: he might find nano easier...
[04:39] <needanickname> i actually replaced vim with nano :o
[04:39] <Jucato> lol
[04:40] <j2daosh> ex: /dev/hda2 /media/mountpoint user,auto,default (you may not need default with auto...) 0 0
[04:40] <j2daosh> lol
[04:40] <j2daosh> vims better
[04:40] <j2daosh> yall suck :P
[04:40] <needanickname> i'm just lazy :p
[04:40] <j2daosh> lol
[04:40] <Jucato> j2daosh: coz you know how to use it. consider the other person
[04:40] <j2daosh> me too... thats why i kept vim :)
[04:40] <j2daosh> yeah i know... different strokes for different folks
[04:41] <Jucato> actually, I thought it was different strokes for different brushes?
[04:41] <j2daosh> lol im from GA
[04:41] <j2daosh> we do things alittle different
[04:41] <needanickname> AL here
[04:41] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:41] <Jucato> lol.... I'm almost halfway around the world
[04:42] <j2daosh> once you have that entry in your fstab, save the file and then open a terminal and type mount
[04:42] <j2daosh> or sudo mount
[04:42] <j2daosh> it should load it up
[04:42] <j2daosh> if it dont, let me know ill copy my fstab entry
[04:42] <charims> No sound, i already followed the comprehensive sound problem solutions guide, here are some specifics.
[04:42] <charims>  nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[04:42] <charims>         Subsystem: FIRST INTERNATIONAL Computer Inc: Unknown device 927a
[04:43] <j2daosh> did you change to alsa?
[04:43] <needanickname> okay, i screwed with fstab.. i'm guessing that a restart is in order?
[04:43] <j2daosh> nevermind... diffed thing
[04:43] <j2daosh> nope nick
[04:43] <charims> change what, i followed the instuctions for alsa
[04:43] <j2daosh> just type in sudo mount
[04:43] <lupine_85> needanickname: not really
[04:43] <needanickname> ah
[04:43] <Jucato> When I first started using Linux, I always thought "fstab" meant F-Stab....
[04:43] <lupine_85> not mount -a ?
[04:43] <j2daosh> yeah that one :P
[04:43] <j2daosh> sudo mount -a
[04:43] <needanickname>  /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:43] <needanickname> :o
[04:43] <needanickname> okay, i'll try that lol
[04:44] <needanickname> ahh
[04:44] <j2daosh> what the hell....
[04:44] <j2daosh> how did i establish a connection?
[04:44] <Jucato> j2daosh: by helping others in need....
[04:44] <Jucato> :-D
[04:44] <j2daosh> lol
[04:44] <lupine_85> erm... r/w ntfs?
[04:44] <j2daosh> no rw
[04:45] <j2daosh> unless you want to kill ntfs partition
[04:45] <Jucato> er.. no W, but yes to R
[04:45] <lupine_85> not unless you're brave
[04:45] <Jucato> brave or... um...
[04:45] <needanickname> i heard that there was something floating around that could do ntfs alright in linux
[04:45] <lupine_85> pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha
[04:45] <j2daosh> u heard wrong
[04:45] <j2daosh> its very experimental
[04:45] <needanickname> ah
[04:45] <lupine_85> and not installed by default
[04:45] <Jucato> well, it's stable for some, but not for mission-critical stuff
[04:46] <lupine_85> right now, I think the latest linux kernel (the one you don't have) can do r/w access in a few very limited situations
[04:46] <lupine_85> namely: editing a file already present, as long as the filesize doesn't change
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Linux Britannia 2.6.17.11 #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Heh, like that one :P
[04:46] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:46] <needanickname> now, when i mounted my dvd drive, it gave everyone view permissions..
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning
[04:46] <lupine_85> bah, yours is more up to date than mine
[04:47] <lupine_85> 2.6.17.9 is good enough
[04:47] <Jucato> lol! us mere mortals merely have 2.6.15-26
[04:47] <Hawkwind> lupine_85: I have a very easy how-to on my forums that takes less than an hour for me to build the new kernel.  It even builds .deb packs :)
[04:47] <Jucato> which *cough* forums *cough*
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0
[04:48] <Healot> mine a to 2.6.17.16
[04:48] <Jucato> lol! I knew it :-D
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Very simple to follow
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Healot: No such kernel yet
[04:48] <lupine_85> I just do the standard make oldconfig; make menuconfig; make; make modules; make modules_instal; make install
[04:48] <Nerevar> why does my computer hate linux so much
[04:48] <Healot> i made it up
[04:48] <lupine_85> cba with .debs for a kernel
[04:48] <Jucato> yeah.. but please clarify w/c forums. or should I presume that you always mean LFD? :-D
[04:48] <Healot> i know
[04:49] <Nerevar> all i do is put the boot cd in and it won't start :x
[04:49] <lupine_85> I can do mine in 1/2 hour ;)
[04:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: That how-to is actually on the Kubuntu forums too.  I did post it there
[04:49] <Nerevar> so far tried kubuntu and pclinuxos both never start
[04:49] <needanickname> did i not do something right, j2daosh?
[04:49] <Jucato> hm.. we really need to organize it... ^_^
[04:49] <j2daosh> ok hold on ill paste my fstab
[04:49] <j2daosh> oh snap
[04:50] <j2daosh> forgot an option for ya lol
[04:50] <j2daosh> here is what yours needs to look like
[04:50] <j2daosh> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[04:50] <j2daosh>    1
[04:50] <KoMpLoT> Hi all!
[04:50] <j2daosh> that 1 goes up on the other line
[04:50] <needanickname> ahh
[04:50] <needanickname> i'm gonna go try that :p
[04:51] <j2daosh> forgot all the nls umask stuff lol
[04:51] <j2daosh> leave the gid off (dont know what 46 is on your system
[04:51] <lupine_85> oh, so xp is utf8 by default?
[04:51] <lupine_85> cor
[04:52] <j2daosh> yep
[04:52] <j2daosh> same with 2003
[04:52] <redondo81> can anyone tell me how to create a key shortcut to lunch a program?
[04:53] <j2daosh> lol ill let someone else take this one :)
[04:53] <needanickname> :o
[04:53] <needanickname> it worked
[04:54] <lupine_85> they're almost out of the dark ages, then...
[04:54] <Jucato[Away] > redondo81: what do you mean?
[04:55] <j2daosh> so your good now noname?
[04:55] <j2daosh> needanickname:
[04:55] <redondo81> I installed 3ddesktop and I want to lunch it pressing a button
[04:55] <Jucato> lol
[04:55] <redondo81> for example F12
[04:55] <needanickname> yea, j2.. now i just need to google some other stuff :p
[04:55] <j2daosh> ok
[04:56] <Jucato> redondo81: go to System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Input Actions
[04:56] <redondo81> ok
[04:57] <Jucato> redondo81: create a New Action, give it a name
[04:57] <Jucato> for the Action type, make it Keyboard Shortcut > Simple
[04:57] <redondo81> ok
[04:57] <needanickname> ugh.. how recently have mx nicks been popping up?
[04:58] <Jucato> then in the Keyboard Shortcut tab, click on the None button and press the keyboard shortcut you want to use
[04:58] <redondo81> ok, thanks done
[04:58] <Jucato> then in the Command/URL Settings, enter the command or program name you want to be run
[04:58] <Jucato> redondo81: it will be useful for commands/programs that really don't have K Menu entries, like 3D Desktop
[04:59] <redondo81> yes
[05:04] <charims> LA Di DA DI da
[05:05] <needanickname> okay.. both amarok and kaffeine are gimpin on an mp3 file i just copied from my ntfs mount
[05:05] <ubuntu> c'est encore franck
[05:06] <Hawkwind> !fr
[05:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:06] <Jucato> needanickname: what do you mean by gimpin?
[05:06] <charims> oh, cool, french help
[05:06] <needanickname> i click play, and it's automatically done playing
[05:06] <arepie> !my
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <Jucato> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <arepie> dem.. no malaysian help..
[05:07] <charims> i ahve the same problem as need a nickname, but i don;'t have sound anyways right now....
[05:07] <needanickname> ahhhh
[05:07] <Jucato> needanickname: you need to install "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:07] <Jucato> it's found in the multiverse component of the repos
[05:07] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:07] <needanickname> alright
[05:07] <j2daosh> charims: , your having that problem?!
[05:08] <j2daosh> i thought charims had a problem with the actual card and not getting recognized by system...
[05:08] <j2daosh> well... lol thats one for the retard side
[05:08] <yanis> If you already have a 6.06 install just make sure your packages are up to date from dapper-updates
[05:09] <yanis> what is 'dapper-updates' ?
[05:09] <j2daosh> updates... for dapper....
[05:09] <Healot> the name explains it
[05:09] <j2daosh> lol
[05:09] <Healot> not every distro speak geek, yanis
[05:09] <yanis> but where can I find them?
[05:09] <charims> j2daosh, that is a side problem
[05:09] <Jucato> let's see if ubotu knows..
[05:09] <Jucato> !dapper-updates
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <duncan_> tar zxvf ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz
[05:10] <charims> i don't get any sound whatsoever, but i knew i had to get the codecs once i got sound
[05:10] <duncan_> if I type that
[05:10] <duncan_> Iget errors
[05:10] <duncan_> I get errors
[05:10] <duncan_> :(
[05:10] <j2daosh> oh ok
[05:10] <Jucato> j2daosh: be gentle...
[05:10] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:10] <j2daosh> lol sorry yanis
[05:10] <grothesk> Will there by a kernel update soon? 2.6.15-26-k7 does not play well with VIA Chipsets. 2.6.15-25-k7 runs far better on my computer.
[05:10] <j2daosh> charims:  so you are having a system sound problem...? not a codec issue?
[05:10] <yanis> so, If I apt-get upgrade then I'll have these dapper-updates?
[05:10] <charims> yes, i get no sound
[05:11] <charims> codec issue is a side issue
[05:11] <Jucato> yanis: no. dapper-updates is a repository in your sources.list
[05:11] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade
[05:11] <charims> which i can fix later
[05:11] <j2daosh> ok
[05:11] <Jucato> j2daosh: that command is sooo way off
[05:11] <yanis> Jucato: I have uncomment all the lines in my sources.list
[05:11] <j2daosh> really?
[05:11] <j2daosh> its been a minute
[05:11] <yanis> Jucato: want do it automatically?
[05:11] <needanickname> thanks, jucato
[05:11] <j2daosh> lemme try it :P
[05:12] <charims> j2daosh have you figured anything out about my sound problem?
[05:12] <Jucato> yanis: so the lines with "dapper-updates" are already uncommented?
[05:12] <j2daosh> still using my google-fu on it charims
[05:12] <charims> kk, :)
[05:13] <yanis> yes Jucato
[05:13] <Jucato> yanis: ok then. in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> Hi would like to get some help with cups and kubuntu, I've already read the Known Problems in Dapper, but the problem here is that cups works, but when I print it will only print some colors
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> I have a Epson Stylus C63, the ink status are fine
[05:14] <KoMpLoT> what can I do?
[05:15] <j2daosh> Jucato: i wasn't off... that will do the dist-upgrade
[05:15] <yanis> Jucato: I did.check this errol log I get every time I run apt-get ->  http://pastebin.ca/150137
[05:15] <KoMpLoT> I've already reinstalled cups, and also installed and reinstalled the printer drivers a lot of times with no luck
[05:16] <arepie> hey.. anyone installed atlantik (game) ??
[05:16] <Jucato> j2daosh: apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade on the same line?
[05:16] <Healot> KAtlantik?
[05:16] <Jucato> yanis: did you "sudo apt-get update" first?
[05:16] <arepie> Healot: yea
[05:16] <j2daosh> nono
[05:16] <yanis> ofcourse Jucato
[05:16] <Healot> installed by default, never played it :)
[05:17] <yanis> Jucato: btw I get this error since I installed kubuntu6.06
[05:17] <j2daosh> just dist-upgrade... for the disupgrade... upgrade for updates and updates for updating apt-get db
[05:17] <charims> hey, j2daosh, i was just playing around with my mixer, im still not getting sound, but when i change the balance from left to right, i do get a slight hum from the speakers which switches as i switch the balnce in the micxer
[05:17] <Jucato> j2daosh: look at what you typed:  <j2daosh> sudo apt-get upgrade dist-upgrade
[05:17] <j2daosh> oh
[05:17] <j2daosh> well i screwed up
[05:17] <j2daosh> lol
[05:18] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:18] <j2daosh> and you are sure it is plugged in correctly?
[05:18] <j2daosh> that sounds like plugs are switched...
[05:18] <charims> nope, plugged in right
[05:18] <charims> i just don't get any sound playing on the channel
[05:18] <j2daosh> ok, check this out (might be right up your ally) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=151622
[05:18] <Jucato> yanis: ok, I'm a bit clueless about this. first time I've encountered it, so I really don't know what else to say...
[05:19] <gernot> does anybody use kde 3.5.4 on dapper?
[05:19] <yanis> Jucato: ok
[05:19] <slougi_> gernot: yes
[05:19] <Jucato> gernot: yes
[05:19] <gernot> what about your system:/ ioslave, does it work?
[05:19] <j2daosh> give the third party ones a shot
[05:19] <gnomefreak> gernot: yes but not at the moment
[05:19] <j2daosh> ill keep looking
[05:20] <slougi_> gernot: seems to work for me
[05:20] <needanickname> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:20] <Jucato> gernot: yest
[05:20] <gernot> cause mine prints "an unknown error occured" as soon as I try to access an unmounted device like an usb stick
[05:20] <Jucato> s/yest/yes
[05:20] <gernot> Jucato: yours too?
[05:20] <Jucato> gernot: no, I meant that it works for me.. sorry...
[05:20] <j2daosh> needanickname: sudo apt-get install build-essientials (or buildessientials... been awhile)
[05:21] <gernot> slougi_: yours too?
[05:21] <Jucato> my problem is with media:/
[05:21] <j2daosh> then try to config
[05:21] <Jucato> but why would you try to access an unmounted partition/device
[05:21] <Hawkwind> j2daosh: build-essential actually
[05:21] <gernot> so is mine, media gives the same results as system, when trying to acces the same device
[05:21] <gernot> Jucato: in order to mount it ;-)
[05:22] <Jucato> gernot: don't you right-click it and choose mount?
[05:22] <j2daosh> lol had to be one of those
[05:22] <Jucato> gernot: also, isn't it supposed to automount?
[05:22] <gernot> Jucato: usually I just click on it
[05:22] <Jucato> aah
[05:22] <slougi_> gernot: works for me
[05:23] <slougi_> gernot: you could try running konq from a console and see if it spits out anything interesting when opening system:/
[05:23] <slougi_> be warned though, it is pretty verbose under the best circumstances...
[05:23] <gernot> slougi_: kde 3.5.4 from ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu dapper main ?
[05:23] <needanickname> couldnt find either, j2daosh
[05:23] <Mehercle> lsb_release output comes from which file?
[05:24] <slougi_> gernot: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[05:24] <Jucato> Mehercle: /etc/release, I think?
[05:24] <Healot> !build
[05:24] <Jucato> not really sure
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:24] <frasen> Anybody from Italy???
[05:24] <Mehercle> Error: no such file "/etc/release"
[05:25] <Mehercle> !it
[05:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:25] <kraut> !de
[05:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:25] <kraut> ha, cool :)
[05:25] <Mehercle> lol
[05:25] <needanickname> thanks
[05:25] <ranunculoid> !pl
[05:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:25] <Mehercle> Jucato: Error: no such file "/etc/release"
[05:25] <Jucato> Mehercle: I said I wasn't sure.. sorry
[05:25] <Mehercle> np
[05:25] <slougi_>  /etc/lsb-release
[05:26] <Mehercle> k
[05:26] <Mehercle> thanks
[05:26] <Jucato> oh there, slougi_ got it
[05:26] <slougi_> np
[05:26] <redondo81> to visualize .avi file what I need?
[05:26] <Mehercle> and to print this to my screen?
[05:26] <sleeptyper> why K3b fails every time i try to burn an image?
[05:26] <Mehercle> (damn commands....)
[05:27] <slougi> Mehercle: cat?
[05:27] <Mehercle> thanks
[05:27] <slougi> or less
[05:27] <slougi> or more
[05:27] <slougi> ;)
[05:27] <Jucato> Mehercle: lsb_release -a seems to be more descriptive than the contents of that file...
[05:27] <Mehercle> heeh
[05:27] <Mehercle> hehe
[05:27] <Mehercle> lol
[05:27] <Mehercle> i know
[05:28] <redondo81> Anyone can tell me what I have to install to visualize .avi file?
[05:28] <Mehercle> but now i can replace Ubuntu with Kubuntu ;-)
[05:28] <slougi> Mehercle: that seems to print the exact same stuff
[05:28] <frasen> w32codec
[05:28] <gernot> slougi_: Just a second, I'll post the error message
[05:28] <longbean> redondo81: it's a video file. i'm not sure what the default player for kubuntu is. kaffeine?
[05:28] <Jucato> Mehercle: err... you are using Ubuntu... but with KDE on top
[05:28] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:28] <Jucato> longbean: correct
[05:28] <redondo81> yes
[05:28] <Mehercle> i know, i know
[05:29] <Jucato> redondo81: it should be covered by the "llibxine-extracodecs" package
[05:29] <frasen> try this http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:29] <redondo81> but when I lunch it the audio ok, but video is off
[05:29] <frasen> and follow the iinstructions
[05:29] <Mehercle> Distributor ID: Kubuntu  :-)
[05:29] <Jucato> Mehercle: um.... I think they really set it up that way for LSB (Linux Standard Base) compliance
[05:29] <slougi> Mehercle: keep the distributor id as ubuntu
[05:29] <Jucato> of course, it's your system, so...
[05:29] <j2daosh> u still here charims?
[05:29] <Mehercle> okay
[05:29] <charims> yeah, im here
[05:30] <slougi> Mehercle: even on a vanilla kubuntu installation it is ubuntu, as they are the same system just with a different desktop
[05:30] <Mehercle> i know
[05:30] <charims> forcedeth is for my nforce lan, which doesnt support ubuntu, and i already did the modprobe snd-intel8x0
[05:30] <gernot> slougi:kio (KIOJob): error 63 An unknown error occured
[05:30] <frasen> it will install all you need to play avi files and other useful things
[05:30] <charims> but i tried again, notihng
[05:31] <Mehercle> is it allowed to change /etc/issue ??
[05:31] <slougi> gernot: heh that does not say much... can you paste the whole output to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
[05:31] <slougi> and then paste the link
[05:31] <jontec> I need to know where the debian packagees are for Kubuntu
[05:32] <osoh> bye
[05:32] <Mehercle> Jucato: is it allowed to change /etc/issue ??
[05:32] <slougi> jontec: which packages?
[05:32] <slougi> Mehercle: it is
[05:32] <Mehercle> okay
[05:32] <ilfungo> ciao
[05:32] <Mehercle> :-)
[05:32] <Mehercle> cu
[05:32] <jontec> all of them
[05:32] <jontec> the ones that apt-get downloads
[05:33] <jontec> I don't need to install them
[05:33] <jontec> I just don't want to have to download them on my other system
[05:33] <slougi> jontec: just select any mirror... ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for example
[05:33] <slougi> look in pool
[05:33] <jontec> I mean on my system?
[05:33] <gernot> slougi: the output is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hbyvka66.html
[05:34] <slougi> jontec: ah /var/cache/apt
[05:34] <jontec> like on my hard drive? (I'm looking for a directory)
[05:34] <jontec> yeah!
[05:34] <slougi> some subfolder there
[05:34] <jontec> that!
[05:34] <jontec> :D
[05:34] <jontec> gracias
[05:34] <slougi> no problem
[05:34] <redondo81> It doean't find the llibxine-extracodecs
[05:35] <[GuS] > redondo81, you must add multiverse repo
[05:35] <redondo81> and how?
[05:35] <mimix> does anyone know a good doc on how to customize kubuntu CD? I want to add some apps to it like firefox, etc.
[05:35] <mimix> by CD I mean the install not live-cd
[05:35] <atidem> hello folks
[05:35] <j2daosh> how do you check irq ports in linux?
[05:36] <mimix> j2daosh: kinfocenter
[05:36] <slougi> gernot: did you try to open your floppy?
[05:36] <redondo81> How can add multiverse repo please?
[05:36] <slougi> since there is lots of stuff about it in the log
[05:36] <[GuS] > redondo81, add these lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <[GuS] > # Multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:36] <[GuS] > then, sudo apt-get update
[05:37] <slougi> gernot: sorry, need to leave... hopefully someone else can help. otherwise you could file a bug
[05:37] <slougi> or ask in the forums
[05:37] <redondo81> ok
[05:37] <gernot> slougi: it actually performs the mount operation, the device is mounted, just the io slave dies
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> j2daosh: cat /proc/interrupts
[05:39] <slougi> gernot: i've had the same problem with my floppy drive ever since the media:/ io-slave was introduced, I never bothered looking into it since I don't use the drive. Forgot all about it. anyway, need to go now, see you all
[05:39] <slougi> gernot: that is to say, everything works except the floppy
[05:40] <redondo81> I added the lines but it doesnt find the llibxine-extracodecs" package yet
[05:40] <Jucato> gernot: I think there's a bug with KDE 3.5.4 and HAL in Kubuntu
[05:40] <[GuS] > redondo81,
[05:40] <Jucato> redondo81: libxine-extracodecs (single L)
[05:40] <[GuS] > es libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <[GuS] > no ll
[05:41] <[GuS] > is*
[05:41] <srdjant> I can't believe kubuntu people have managed to compile clanbomber... that's such a cool game and i've tried to compile it and it's a headache.
[05:41] <redondo81> ok perfect
[05:44] <j2daosh> where can i find where a sound card is located?
[05:44] <phreakys>   does anyone know how to make a kde-session of xgl/compiz?
[05:44] <j2daosh> i think charims might need to override his location
[05:45] <Jucato> j2daosh: KInfoCenter?
[05:45] <j2daosh> i dont see it in there
[05:45] <j2daosh> system settings, sound system
[05:45] <Jucato> hm... define "where it is located"?
[05:45] <srdjant> phreakys: what do you mean kde-session of xgl/compiz?
[05:45] <j2daosh> in the override location box... what would go in there?
[05:45] <j2daosh> an irq?
[05:45] <Jucato> ah
[05:46] <j2daosh> or /dev/sounddevice
[05:46] <Jucato> probably a /dev/sounddevice. I'm not sure if Linux uses irq...
[05:46] <phreakys> well, i installed xgl/compiz on kubuntu, and it starts as default now
[05:47] <srdjant> sorry, can't help you then, phreakys
[05:47] <phreakys> i would like to select nonxgl desktop too, for some purposes. xgl isnt too stable
[05:47] <srdjant> is there really a /dev/sounddevice????
[05:47] <phreakys> ok, np
[05:47] <jontec> can anyone of tell me what the command is for safe graphics boot (Kbuntu, ubuntu, Xubuntu) I'm unning the xiubuntu alternate CD and one of the installations I did didn't display correctly
[05:47] <srdjant>  /dev/snd/
[05:48] <phreakys> on a laptop jontec?
[05:48] <j2daosh> on mine its /dev/audio
[05:48] <j2daosh> i got a /snd too though
[05:48] <phreakys> i had problems too getting x on my laptop from installation. had to install fglrx from console
[05:48] <jontec> well it's on vmware for Windows
[05:49] <srdjant> that's OSS, j2daosh
[05:49] <jontec> so maybe?
[05:49] <srdjant> alsa uses /dev/snd/
[05:49] <phreakys> ah
[05:49] <j2daosh> ahh
[05:49] <phreakys> dont know about that
[05:49] <j2daosh> ok he needs to point to snd then
[05:51] <Kragnerac> Hello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?
[05:51] <nomad411> Hi,  I have someone coming over in a few hours that wants Kubuntu on their laptop.. Yeaeeeaaahh!  Can someone recommend a very fast download place for it?
[05:51] <j2daosh> ok... charims needs some help with his sound... it looks like his card is recognized, but he gets no sound from it... i have had him use both asla and esd and nothing... his speakers are plugged in correctly and he read the comphrehensive tutrorial for the sound card thing
[05:52] <srdjant> j2daosh: alsa by default mutes the sound volumes. Try alsamixer from the command line and check that it's all not muted and turn up the volume.
[05:53] <j2daosh> all are up he said
[05:53] <nomad411> Ohhh I found I had a copy.. yes!
[05:55] <srdjant> j2daosh: yes but make sure it's not muted. unmuted != all volume controls to maximum.
[06:01] <longbean> what's the benefit of Xgl? Is it just eyecandy?
[06:02] <Healot> eyecandy
[06:02] <Healot> and some funcionaliti
[06:04] <longbean> is it resource-hungry?
[06:04] <Healot> great for solving cluttered desktop
[06:04] <Healot> but a waste though
[06:04] <Healot> longbean:not that power hungry
[06:04] <j2daosh> hey srdjant can you help charims, i just got called
[06:04] <Healot> but you still need to enable 3D hardware acceleration
[06:05] <srdjant> i can try...
[06:07] <needanickname> Install the X development headers and try again.
[06:08] <needanickname> nvm.. i bet i can google this one x_x
[06:13] <joecoder> Hello.  How can I make my cdrom auto mount whenever a cd is inserted?
[06:13] <joecoder> /dev/cdrom      /media/cdrom    auto    ro,user,auto,exec     0       0
[06:17] <zecarlos> oi gente, boa tarde
[06:19] <treat> is wpa supposed to work with the version of network manager in adept?
[06:24] <Jucato> utter silence...
[06:24] <srdjant_> yeah i'm helping charims with the sound problem
[06:24] <treat> how do i get wpa working?
[06:24] <Jucato> ehehe
[06:25] <srdjant_> you need that wpa passthough thing, don't you?
[06:25] <srdjant_> begins with s...
[06:25] <treat> i have network manager
[06:25] <treat> knetworkmangar thinks my router is using wep =/
[06:25] <treat> but its not
[06:26] <srdjant_> treat, my adept says wpasupplicant
[06:26] <treat> i have that to
[06:26] <srdjant_> so install that. no idea how to use that though
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> dang it - what is that kde tool that shows the space used by different folders in a nice graphical way.
[06:26] <treat> network manager is suppose to control wpa_supplicant for you
[06:27] <srdjant_> which is network manager?
[06:27] <srdjant_> oh, let me try
[06:27] <treat> it's called knetworkmanager
[06:27] <treat> but thats just the frontend
[06:27] <srdjant_> i have kwifimanager
[06:28] <Delphinus> ok here's an interesting question, installed kubuntu but kinda forgot to do the add users part... is it possible to add a user without any set up already?
[06:28] <srdjant_> adduser
[06:28] <treat> kwifimanager also says wep
[06:28] <Delphinus> from where? i cant login?
[06:29] <treat> my router doesn't even support wep
[06:29] <treat> only wpa
[06:29] <srdjant_> boot kubuntu, but add init=/bin/sh   then when it boots you have root shell, then just adduser
[06:29] <Delphinus> forgive the noobishness, but where does one add init=etc
[06:29] <Kragnerac>  Hello, Does anybody know where a log file is on my system to track what apt-get has updated?
[06:29] <Jucato> srdjant_: couldn't he boot into recovery mode?
[06:29] <nick_> Anybody know the port I need to forward to be able to send and receive files via konversation?
[06:30] <Jucato> Kragnerac: try /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:30] <srdjant_> Jucato, probably, though i'm not familiar enough with kubuntu and grub to know of a recovery mode ;)  (i've used slackware for a long time and that uses LILO)
[06:31] <srdjant_> slackware = hardcore :)
[06:31] <Jucato> hehe! there's a Recovery Mode in Kubuntu's default GRUB options
[06:31] <Kragnerac> Jucato: Thanks.
[06:31] <Delphinus> ok i'll boot that :) ty
[06:31] <srdjant> thanks Jucato.
[06:32] <Delphinus> awesome that did the trick :)
[06:33] <srdjant_slack> nick_, dcc recv and send?
[06:33] <nick_> ya ya
[06:33] <Delphinus> dammit its nearly 5am i should get some sleep
[06:33] <srdjant_slack> it will be the full range of ports i reckon.
[06:33] <nick_> Well, I forwarded 21 but I dunno
[06:33] <nick_> trying to get into rizon to see if it works..
[06:34] <nick_> it seems like I've been having some weird problems with my download speed after switching from windows.
[06:34] <srdjant_slack> wtf some freaks have guns in the field near my house. i hope they're not shooting at my cats!
[06:34] <nick_> basically irc and bittorrent though
[06:34] <nick_> call the cops.
[06:34] <nick_> :)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> deer season?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> thats not till later in the year.
[06:35] <srdjant_slack> looks like foxhunters or bird shooters
[06:35] <srdjant_slack> my cat looks a bit like a fox...
[06:35] <nick_> did you call it firefox? lol.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> phew she's safe. need to find the other cat.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> nick_, lol.
[06:36] <srdjant_slack> you mean http://www.andreaharner.com/archives/TheRealFirefox.jpg
[06:37] <nick_> lol omg >_>
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> thats a pomerianian with a mohawk
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> looks almost like my dog
[06:37] <srdjant_slack> :D
[06:37] <Jucato> lol
[06:37] <nick_> oh snap
[06:37] <Kragnerac> Racoon.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> except my dog would of ripped apart the guy with the clippers.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> not be taking a nap. :)
[06:37] <nick_> I just got booted from a server for some kinda nick problem -_-
[06:38] <nick_> how do you change your nick via command?
[06:38] <srdjant_slack>  /nick new_nick
[06:38] <Psychobudgie> type /nick nick
[06:38] <SUPERNICK> psshs
[06:38] <UBUNICK> there we go.
[06:39] <Kragnerac> UBERNICK
[06:39] <UBUNICK> nuuu :P
[06:39] <sleeptyper> ew, full CAPS
[06:39] <UBUNICK> you better believe it!
[06:39] <Kragnerac> Heh.
[06:39] <sleeptyper> get a life ;)
[06:39] <UBUNICK> what do you mean get a life?
[06:39] <UBUNICK> I have a life
[06:39] <UBUNICK> do you?
[06:39] <UBUNICK> kthx.
[06:39] <Kragnerac> Uhoh...
[06:40] <UBUNICK> :-)
[06:40] <UBUNICK> ubuntu+nick=ubunick.
[06:40] <sleeptyper> no comment, YELLER
[06:40] <UBUNICK> >_>
[06:40] <aliasfred> UBUNICK: can you put it in lower case ? caps are kinda aggressive
[06:40] <aliasfred> thanks :)
[06:41] <Jucato> yey! aliasfred's here! :-D
[06:41] <aliasfred> mouaoua
[06:41] <Kragnerac> Jahaa!
[06:41] <charims> hey srdjant, u there?
[06:41] <richardh_> Hi everyone...anyone familiar with WEP enabled WIFI starting automatically on start-up?
[06:42] <tuxar> I use WEP with my wireless card and my router at home
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: my wifi connected on start-up until I started using the WEP key, now I need to start it with wlassistant...any idea why?
[06:43] <tuxar> richardh_: you want some help, Im noob but perhaps I can help you
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: the key is inside the interfaces config
[06:43] <tuxar> richardh_: you're using kubuntu ?
[06:43] <richardh_> tuxar: yes
[06:44] <kubunick> kubuntu owns all.
[06:44] <srdjant> hi charims
[06:44] <tuxar> richardh_: ok, here is how I configure it
[06:44] <charims> hi
[06:44] <kubunick> I'm still having problems with scc transfer..
[06:44] <sleeptyper> so, k3b fails... any solves ?
[06:44] <tuxar> richardh_: Go to System Preferences, then Network Parameters
[06:45] <kubunick> fails why? o_O
[06:45] <sleeptyper> it won't even try to burn anything
[06:45] <tuxar> richardh_: Go into administrator mode
[06:45] <richardh_> tuxar: yes, did all that
[06:45] <aliasfred> just got a new 250gbyte :) all happy about it :)
[06:45] <kubunick> so the app doesn't fail but it doesn't recognize your disc?
[06:45] <srdjant> charims: is it working?
[06:45] <richardh_> tuxar: the wep key is in there, theoretically it should be working
[06:45] <sleeptyper> kubunick, no idea...
[06:46] <tuxar> richardh_: ah ah, I think you're trying it by command mode
[06:46] <charims> nope, didnt work
[06:46] <kubunick> emm, try reinstalling it :P
[06:46] <charims> i found an mp3, i got static for a second, then nothing
[06:46] <richardh_> tuxar: nope, I've got it all configured, but somehow it just doesn't start automatically
[06:47] <sleeptyper> ..
[06:47] <tuxar> richardh_: the user is the first sudo user of the system ?
[06:48] <kubunick> did anybody have to forward any special port to be able to receive dcc transfers for konversation?
[06:49] <tuxar> richardh_: I mean...is in the sudoers list ? or perhaps you have to give others permissions that the user don't have ( sorry about my english )
[06:49] <charims> srdjant i found an mp3, tried it and i got static for a second, then nothing, even thought the file was still playing
[06:49] <richardh_> tuxar: don't think it's that...the problem seems to lie in the WEP key, because it did work properly without it
[06:49] <kubunick> netcad!
[06:49] <lupine_85> kubunick: you can set specific ports in the config., I think
[06:50] <kubunick> in the config where?
[06:50] <lupine_85> you'd only need it if you're behind a NAT firewall
[06:50] <kubunick> oh
[06:50] <kubunick> dcc
[06:50] <kubunick> ..
[06:50] <lupine_85> found it? :)
[06:50] <kubunick> hmm.. 1025-7000.. that's a lot of ports :O
[06:51] <srdjant_slack> yup
[06:51] <lupine_85> just restrict it to 1 or 2
[06:51] <tuxar> richardh_: Did you looked in Ubuntuforums, I remember some people having the same problem there
[06:51] <kubunick> the default is 6667 or something like that isn't it?
[06:51] <lupine_85> konv. is keeping it's options open in case some of them are already used
[06:51] <lupine_85> 6667 is IRC in general
[06:51] <kubunick> maybe I should forward that or something/
[06:51] <kubunick> even though it should be already -_-
[06:52] <kubunick> on to other problems.. how do I set a certain bittorrent client as the default?
[06:52] <kubunick> I use azureus but..
[06:52] <aliasfred> 6667 is the default port for the normal irc protocol (client-server)
[06:52] <kubunick> mmm yeah.
[06:52] <aliasfred> i dunno if there is one for the dcc
[06:53] <tuxar> you know what's left in Kubuntu ? when I upgrade my system in Ubuntu the system sometimes tell me I have to restart the computer, That is no happend in Adept, you know why ?
[06:53] <aliasfred> kubunick: what client are you using ?
[06:53] <kubunick> konversation
[06:53] <lupine_85> MIME-types in Konq.
[06:53] <kubunick> hmm?
[06:53] <lupine_85> (for default bittorent client)
[06:54] <lupine_85> Konqueror->Settings->Mime-types->.torrent
[06:54] <kubunick> oh.
[06:54] <kubunick> lol.
[06:54] <lupine_85> set to be opened by your application of choice
[06:54] <aliasfred> Dcc port range support. from http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2004-December/000555.html
[06:54] <kubunick> alright, thx for the link.
[06:54] <kubunick> and I meant set it for the default when I use my web browser.
[06:56] <lontix> Hey!
[06:56] <kubunick> upgraded goop!
[06:56] <Goop2> yep :P
[06:56] <kubunick> it seems like I need linux support 24-7 :O
[06:56] <lontix> how do i open mp3 files?
[06:56] <Goop2> lol
[06:56] <aliasfred> kubunick: you could ask #konversation 'how to set up a dcc range port'
[06:56] <Goop2> Im still learning too
[06:57] <aliasfred> Sho_: aliasfred: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> DCC
[06:57] <aliasfred> aliasfred: settings->configure konversation->behavior->dcc->ports
[06:57] <aliasfred> i did it for you :)
[06:57] <Goop2> lontix: theres something about xine that you need to update or something.. I dont remember exactly
[06:58] <kubunick> aliasfred: thx, will try.
[06:58] <lontix> can't find out!
[06:58] <kubunick> aliasfred: sorry about that, was kind of busy
[06:58] <lupine_85> libxine-extraplugins ?
[06:58] <aliasfred> no problem
[06:59] <Goop2> anybody have any experience with wine?
[06:59] <lupine_85> goop2: a little
[06:59] <kubunick> aliasfred: alright, I've been there.. maybe I shouldn't enable those specific ports? I dunno.
[06:59] <lupine_85> distracted by http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf atm though ;)
[06:59] <kubunick> aliasfred: what ports do you use?
[06:59] <Goop2> lupine_85: I tried installing soldat and it filled the screen with "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!"
[07:00] <Goop2> oh
[07:00] <lupine_85> ;)
[07:00] <lupine_85> finished now
[07:00] <aliasfred> kubunick: you choose a port range for dcc in konversation, then you open those port in your firewall to reach your box, and it should work
[07:00] <aliasfred> kubunick: i dont use dcc
[07:00] <kubunick> aliasfred: so you can't accept file transfers?
[07:00] <lupine_85> not sure about the errormessage though... you could be better off asking a wine-specific support channel
[07:00] <kubunick> aliasfred: or is there another way?
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: via irc ? i dont think i can
[07:01] <lupine_85> you'd have to be mad to accept a file from someone in irc ;)
[07:01] <lontix> how do i install VLC MediaPlayer?
[07:01] <Goop2> hehe
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: another way to achieve what ?
[07:01] <kubunick> aliasfred: I just try to get fansubbed anime quicker but I guess I do need to..
[07:01] <Goop2> I was wondering if there was a wine chanel
[07:01] <kubunick> aliasfred: another way to achieve transfers.. I assume not though :P
[07:01] <aliasfred> kubunick: to transfert file via irc, dcc is the only way
[07:02] <kubunick> yup.
[07:02] <kubunick> aliasfred: is there another problem you can help me with?
[07:02] <tuxar> Someone use any wireless applet that shows the power of signal in the traybar ?
[07:02] <aliasfred> kubunick: just ask :)
[07:02] <aliasfred> i will answer if i can:)
[07:03] <kubunick> aliasfred: alright, it's not really a problem.  I extracted a tar file to my home directory and it just worked.. I though you had to go through all that configuring and make build checkinstall stuff? should it not work like that or is it just a fluke? lol.
[07:03] <Goop2> lupine_85: do you know what those channels are named?
[07:03] <aliasfred> kubunick: ok i get you want to compile a programm from its source
[07:03] <aliasfred> !compile
[07:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:03] <aliasfred> it is there for you :)
[07:04] <lupine_85> goop2: no sorry. There's a usenet group but thats all I've ever looked for
[07:04] <lupine_85> try the website - www.winehq.org (I think)
[07:04] <kubunick> aliasfred: so if you download the tar file it will work automagically?
[07:04] <Goop2> ok
[07:05] <bug2> Hi, does anyone know how to 'find' all files from $dir that were modified(not accessed!) after a certain date+time ?
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: ? no :) a tar file is like a zip on window
[07:05] <JonTec> !graphviz
[07:05] <ubotu> graphviz: rich set of graph drawing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 919 kB, installed size 2700 kB
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: you uncompress the data in it and then you compile it :)
[07:05] <lupine_85> bug2 : man find
[07:05] <kubunick> aliasfred: well, I extracted azureus and it worked automagically :P
[07:05] <bug2> lupine_85: not good enough :P
[07:05] <aliasfred> kubunick: because azureus team worked for that :)
[07:06] <lupine_85> I don't know the command line options for find off by heart, I'm afraid
[07:06] <aliasfred> kubunick: there are no standard about this i mean
[07:06] <lupine_85> that's what manpages are for
[07:06] <aliasfred> kubunick: it is not like .deb you get from apt-get
[07:06] <bug2> lupine_85: for getting someone confused i'll give you that :)
[07:06] <kubunick> aliasfred: lol, I see.  So the dev team would actually have to make it like that?
[07:06] <srdjant_slack> find . -mtime 2 -print
[07:06] <srdjant_slack> something like that
[07:06] <bug2> lupine_85: i can see -atime for access time and have no idea what 'status' is suppose to mean there
[07:07] <aliasfred> yep being easy to use and/or install is a hard job :) kubunick
[07:07] <srdjant_slack> but -mtime is in multiples of 24-hours AFAIK
[07:07] <bug2> srdjant_slack: err, how about all files newer than date(not file) august 2006
[07:07] <bug2> :)
[07:07] <srdjant_slack> it's all in the manpage
[07:07] <kubunick> aliasfred: I'm a linux noob :P regardless, the only real linux problem I have had is building from source or whatever you'd like to call it.
[07:08] <bug2> srdjant_slack:  i could use -newer file but i'll have to 'touch file' with date: aug 2006
[07:08] <Agios> ubuntu has made building from source a bit prolematic
[07:08] <Agios> problematic
[07:08] <srdjant_slack> bug2, yes
[07:09] <bug2> srdjant_slack: that's not what i want:) looking for ie. find / -newerthandate aug.2006
[07:09] <soon> Anyone here got TeamSpeak installed ... care to join my server for a test?
[07:09] <aliasfred> kubunick: the link i gave you will help you on this. but for beginner it is much easier to handle it with pakcage when possible
[07:09] <bug2> soon: me :)
[07:09] <srdjant_slack> bug2, that's exactly what that does
[07:09] <CVirus> soon: does it run natively on linux ?
[07:09] <bug2> srdjant_slack: yes but it's a workaround :) i thought i could use just find not 'touch' also
[07:09] <soon> should do
[07:10] <bug2> soon: i've ts installed, as a client
[07:10] <srdjant_slack> bug2, use kde's find program :)
[07:10] <soon> bug2: server is server1.teamspeak.dk:5401
[07:10] <charims> ok, sound isnt working :( i have no idea why, i have a slight hum from my speakers, and the alsamixer volume makes the hum get louder and quieter, also kmix balance can make the hum switch speakers, i have a Nvidia CK8 Using snd-intel8x0
[07:10] <soon> try user: lars and pass: lars
[07:10] <bug2> srdjant_slack: have no kde installed (fluxbox :))
[07:10] <kubunick> aliasfred: which package..? what do you mean?
[07:11] <srdjant_slack> bug2, fluxbox is cool :)
[07:11] <aliasfred> !deb
[07:11] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:11] <aliasfred> !apt-get
[07:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:11] <srdjant_slack> bug2, I think the choice is 1) use touch and find, or 2) use some other program like kde's find program.
[07:12] <aliasfred> kubunick: the above link will explain to you how to install and upgrade package easily in kubuntu
[07:12] <aliasfred> !adept
[07:12] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:12] <aliasfred> this tools make it very easy to handle
[07:13] <kubunick> aliasfred: hopefully I will get the hang of this eventually.. thanks for your help :P
[07:13] <aliasfred> no problem :)
[07:13] <soon> thanks bug2 (I take it youre z1 ... )
[07:15] <bug2> srdjant_slack: well all right; thanks very much
[07:15] <bug2> soon: neat :)
[07:15] <soon> it seems to work ... :-)
[07:15] <bug2> soon: btw, there's teamspeak for linux too :) but u knew that
[07:15] <soon> Just bought some new Sennheiser PC150 headsets (7 pairs)
[07:15] <aliasfred> \http://www.novell.com/video/ <- offtopic but fun, the marketing video for linux :)
[07:16] <soon> I know its there for Linux ... most of the guys I talk to use Windoze though ...
[07:16] <bug2> soon: ah all right; makes sense now; the test.
[07:16] <sleeptyper> excuse me being such a n00b - can Ark extract .rar s?
[07:17] <soon> if you thank the Novell video is fun and off topic .. try this : http://www.bigfun.be/Movie/Ursula%2BMartinez.htm
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[07:17] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sleeptyper,  install the rar binaries. and it can
[07:17] <soon> (please note: some frontal nudity), but not offensive in any way ...
[07:18] <draik> Anyone know of any good FPS games for Kubuntu?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> draik,  RTCW:ET and Trembulus
[07:18] <sleeptyper> well, i think i'll move the .rar to my XP machine, where it was intended in the first place
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> tremulus or somthing like that. :P
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> sleeptyper,  or ya can use wine and winrar. :)
[07:18] <draik> Thank you Dr_Willis
[07:18] <sleeptyper> :)
[07:19] <sleeptyper> thanks for advice
[07:19] <larson9999> sleeptyper: yes if you have unrar installed ark will handle it just fine
[07:21] <MarsRouter> hi
[07:21] <MarsRouter> jasper ??? any one have idea ho wto install it by apy
[07:21] <sleeptyper> k, unrar-free installed :)
[07:21] <srdjant_slack> winrar = rubbish
[07:22] <srdjant_slack> get unrar, compile and away you go :)
[07:23] <charims> nada srdjant
[07:23] <srdjant_slack> charims, :(
[07:23] <charims> not srdjant_slack just srdjant
[07:23] <srdjant_slack> charims, srdjant and srdjant_slack are the same person.
[07:24] <charims> really
[07:24] <srdjant> yes
[07:24] <charims> oh,, news to me...
[07:24] <charims> :)
[07:24] <srdjant> lol
[07:24] <sleeptyper> srdjant_slack, i try to avoid "wine + some prog i really need" as long as possible :)
[07:24] <charims> why log in with 2 names?
[07:24] <srdjant> this is me on my kubuntu laptop
[07:24] <charims> oh, haha
[07:24] <charims> i get it
[07:24] <srdjant_slack> this is me on my slackware desktop
[07:24] <charims> u trixter
[07:24] <guester> I have a corrupt ext3 partition
[07:24] <guester> fsck put some stuff on lost+found
[07:25] <guester> and the rest it seems to have ignored
[07:25] <charims> well, i think im going to post a bug report on bugzilla or whatever its called
[07:25] <draik> Dr_Willis, For the Linux people, Tremulous has also made it into Debian unstable, Ubuntu Edgy
[07:25] <draik> How can I get it from Debian unstable or Ubuntu Edgy?
[07:25] <charims> ok, well, ill ttyl
[07:25] <charims> bye bye
[07:25] <srdjant> good luck charims
[07:25] <charims> ty
[07:26] <whatever> Hey, how can eth0 be disabled/enabled from cmd, instead of using kcontrol i.e
[07:26] <srdjant_slack> whatever, ifconfig eth0 down
[07:26] <srdjant_slack> then ifconfig eth0 up
[07:27] <whatever> srdjant_slack: Thanks a tonne!
[07:27] <srdjant_slack> annoying that microsoft has named their shell 'cmd', now everyone uses it as a shorthand for 'command line'
[07:27] <srdjant_slack> whatever, you're welcome :)
[07:28] <srdjant_slack> irc - the biggest time sink on the face of the planet, even out-ranks Big Brother tv series :P
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> annoying that MS refers to their gui as the 'shell' :) well  the litestep guys do at least.
[07:29] <sleeptyper> srdjant_slack, maybe because (k)ubuntu is the easiest distro for transtioning from windows to linux, so many (k)ubuntu users tend to mix up terms
[07:29] <sleeptyper> transitioning*
[07:29] <srdjant_slack> well in a way it's a shell to the os, but the line between OS and shell seems to have been blurred in recent times
[07:30] <redondo81> someone know how to play a dvd-film?
[07:30] <Agios> xine, mplayer, totem, pick you app
[07:30] <jujurackham> hello ! i'm a newbie in the world of kubuntu (i'm french) -> for the moment it looks great
[07:30] <fluke777> Hi all I ve just upgraded from breezy to dapper everythong is quite fine except I am unable to switch mu keyboard layouts using shortcuts I remember this being pain in breezy as well. Has someone any idea where to look ?
[07:30] <srdjant_slack> sleeptyper, I know what you are saying, and I agree. However that's ot what I was talking about. Microsoft did not (AFAIK) name their shell to 'cmd' so it will help windows users convert to kununtu....
[07:31] <lupine_85> cmd rather than command ? ;)
[07:31] <redondo81> I have kaffeine but when I lunch the dvd there's an error
[07:31] <srdjant_slack> well whatever they would have chosen
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> redondo81,  you mean a normal movie dvd?
[07:32] <sleeptyper> command was a fossil from DOS-days
[07:32] <redondo81> yes
[07:32] <srdjant_slack> could have calles it dos_box or something
[07:32] <grothesk> redondo81: Would you be so nice to tell us which error?
[07:32] <lupine_85> command is what you had in ME 98 95 3.1 etc
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[07:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:32] <sleeptyper> 3.1 ran ontop of DOS (it required DOS for disc access etc...)
[07:33] <redondo81> kaffeine say that it was aneble to read the dvd, because I don't have the rights to read it
[07:33] <lupine_85> so did 95 and 98 ;)
[07:33] <srdjant_slack> and ME
[07:33] <sleeptyper> but in "less way"
[07:33] <lupine_85> almost to the same extent
[07:33] <lupine_85> using DOS INT codes, etc.
[07:34] <guester> what do I need to compile on Kubuntu?
[07:34] <lupine_85> (at least, at the kernel level)
[07:34] <lupine_85> guester: build-essential
[07:34] <draik> I get an error when installing a .deb package...
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> plus whatever dev files the source needs
[07:34] <draik> here is my pastebin if someone can help...
[07:34] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21711
[07:34] <guester> was that for me, lupine_85?
[07:34] <redondo81> I havo to go now, have a good week and
[07:35] <guester> nm
[07:35] <guester> hmm
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> draik,  that tremulus package is for the beta-edgy release.. not the current dapper
[07:36] <draik> not usable, huh?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> go to the tremulus homepage and install it from their packages
[07:38] <draik> how do I install a *.run file?
[07:38] <draik> !run
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <srdjant_slack> it's ususally a shell script
[07:39] <srdjant_slack> just run it as normal
[07:39] <aliasfred> draik: do 'sh ./younamr.run'
[07:39] <draik> So I would do    'sh ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run'   ?
[07:39] <srdjant_slack> which download pages?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> bingo.
[07:40] <Goop2> whats a .run file?
[07:40] <srdjant_slack> file blah.run
[07:40] <srdjant_slack> it will tell you
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> srdjant_slack,  about every download ive seen tht give ya a .run file mention right above the link how to run it. :P
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> its just a self-running installer. it could actually be almost anything. :)
[07:40] <draik> srdjant_slack, here is the site
[07:40] <draik> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=files
[07:40] <Goop2> oh
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> tremulous always makes me SOOOOOOOOOO dizzy
[07:41] <draik> Version 1.1.0
[07:41] <srdjant_slack> Dr_Willis, i've never seen or noticed those, but I knew that I should investigate the file so you run file <filename> and head -20 <filename> and you quickly learn stuff.
[07:41] <Goop2> so.. go open it from konqueror right?
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> shell
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> konsolw
[07:42] <Goop2> with a single line console?
[07:42] <Goop2> oh
[07:42] <srdjant_slack> s/w/e
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> run the command sh ./whateveritscalled.run :P
[07:43] <grothesk> Schon mal wer 'londonlaw' gespielt?
[07:43] <Goop2> anybody know what sort of install directory to use when installing something with wine?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> wine normally has a .wine directory, that keeps a 'fake windows partition' in it.
[07:44] <Goop2> oh
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> and thats normally assigned to be C: by the default wine configs
[07:44] <Goop2> ok
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:44] <Timmmm> Goop2: If you use c:\foo\bar it goes to ~/.wine/drive_c/foo/bar
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> plus they got some creative links and configs in that dir and wine configs
[07:44] <Timmmm> Goop2: There is probably also a y: or z: drive which corresponds to /
[07:44] <srdjant_slack> grothesk, nein deutsch bitte.
[07:44] <Goop2> ok so I wont have a problem installing it like that then.. thanks :D
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> and the windows 'desktop' is often linked to the /home/user/desktop
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how trivial wine is to use these days
[07:45] <grothesk> srdjant: Excuse me. Wrong window.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> as compared to say.. 4+ yrs ago.
[07:45] <srdjant_slack> grothesk, hehe ok :)
[07:45] <Goop2> ooh.. so I can do a z:/goop2/games or something like that?
[07:45] <guester> WINE is pointless =p
[07:45] <Timmmm> Is there a way to force the order of sound cards with linux? I have alsa set up to go to hw:2,0  but often when I start my computer card 0 and card 2 are swapped! This is clearly stupid. Any solution?
[07:45] <Timmmm> Goop2: Yeah
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Goop2,  just let it install to the program files directory. theres noo need to get fancy with it.
[07:45] <srdjant_slack> guester, wine is awesome
[07:46] <srdjant_slack> i can play tiberian sun and counter-strike with it
[07:46] <Timmmm> guester: Yeah wine is cool. Used to suck but its pretty good these days.
[07:46] <Goop2> well I kinda wanted it in my home folder :P
[07:46] <Goop2> whatever
[07:46] <guester> there's no use for WINE
[07:46] <Timmmm> There is
[07:46] <guester> anything worth running is already native
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> there's no use for trolls.
[07:46] <Timmmm> bollocks.
[07:46] <guester> except maybe VirtualDub
[07:46] <Goop2> what about soldat??
[07:46] <guester> Goop2: I said worth running =p
[07:46] <Timmmm> Goop2: I couldn't get that to work...
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> so does everyong got Tremulous going yet?
[07:47] <Goop2> I wanna play games with my friends, but they use windows
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:47] <guester> Goop2: play Freeciv or Armagetron
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> i want to shoot people.
[07:47] <guester> Quake
[07:47] <Timmmm> Yeah the original quake is awesome, too bad no-one plays it who isn't ridiculously good anymore.
[07:47] <Goop2> lol
[07:47] <guester> Timmmm: I'm not ridiculously good
[07:47] <aliasfred> tremulous is for window too
[07:47] <guester> tho I only play the RuneQuake mod
[07:48] <Timmmm> ET is good too.
[07:48] <srdjant> Cube and Sauerbaten (or however it's spelt)
[07:48] <Timmmm> But still, Goop2 is right, linux isn't good for games.
[07:48] <lupine_85> getting better
[07:49] <Timmmm> lupine_85: Very slowly, eg see my sound question above! Would never happen on windows.
[07:49] <guester> it's fine for gamers with morals
[07:49] <Goop2> Timmmm: I didnt say that.. I just said I cant play games with windows users
[07:50] <srdjant_slack> well you also have unreal torunament
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> games are for the weak.
[07:50] <srdjant_slack> i wish clanbomber had network play
[07:51] <lupine_85> most of my favourites run in wine or cedega; some even have native versions :)
[07:51] <lupine_85> but yes, sound is a mess
[07:51] <srdjant_slack> Dr_Willis, how you you entertain yourself?
[07:51] <guester> Armagetron is addictive
[07:51] <lupine_85> entertainment is for the weak ;)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> IRC!
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> lol
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> so you like to LART people?
[07:52] <Goop2> I dont usualy play games, but I do if my friends want to
[07:52] <srdjant_slack> duke3d is native linux now
[07:53] <draik> I can't play the game... here is my error
[07:53] <draik> ./tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:53] <srdjant_slack> install openal
[07:53] <aliasfred> well install openal :)
[07:53] <srdjant_slack> :)
[07:53] <aliasfred> i play tremulous on kubuntu, so you will achieve it :)
[07:53] <aliasfred> my record is 196 kills, beat me :)
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> i am allready dizy from playing  tremulous  ...
[07:54] <aliasfred> i look for you on the field :)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> tremulous is the kind of game where only 5% of the people playing have ANY CLUE whats going on.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> and  5% think they know.. and the rest are  clueless.. :P
[07:55] <aliasfred> on akka, the ratio is much higher
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> and all the alien players are all so seasick from the wallclimbing they cant even  move.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:55] <aliasfred> the alien are really strong on akka, they do know what they are doing :)
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=about
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> its so much fun to join a game and be on a side where no one knows whats going on.. but the other side is  all in the same dorm room. :P so can just yell at each other...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> http://tremulous.net/index.php?section=about
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> id rather see a nice Free Team FOrtress kind of spin-off :)
[07:57] <pontos> when removing a program with Adept not all libraries etc are removed
[07:57] <leileilol> yeah same here hehheh
[07:57] <leileilol> preferably quake-based or so, a whole from scratch rewrite of the TF game code using the GPL QuakeC code
[07:57] <pontos> it there a utility that removes everything assosiated with a deleted program?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> pontos,  its possble that many other apps are using those libs as well.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> I guess the Half Life guys are working on a team Fortress kind of thing.. but (#*@*@*@  Halflife and valve and their stupid STEAM stuff
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:01] <pontos> yes, that's true, but that should be job of the package manager to manage
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> read up on apt-get and learn all about it.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i think thats why adapitude was written
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> i never can spell that right
[08:02] <pontos> i'm using adept, aptitude is for gnome, isn't it?
[08:02] <Bazzi> aptitude is console-based
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> aptitude is a little rough in some areas also.
[08:03] <pontos> ok, so aptitude is the right tool to get rid of stuff, old libs etc
[08:03] <Bazzi> aptitude is great
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> but i rarely mess with it.. and i rarely uninstall stuff.
[08:03] <Bazzi> it's a real improvement over apt-get in some areas and the GUI stuff currently doesn't come close to it
[08:03] <pontos> i have a small disk on my laptop, so i have to remove things
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> im not sure you can just start using aptitude and it will  do all that.. if you were using apitude to INSTALL everything. then  i think it rembers/logs that info.
[08:04] <Bazzi> OK, smart is also OK :)
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ive heard about 'smart' but never used it yet.
[08:04] <pontos> i also love to try lot's of programs, but would like to remove it afterwords
[08:04] <sorush20> hi guys how do I install documentaion pakcages for quanta plus in kubuntu dapper? I can't find anything relevant in the repositories..
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> http://labix.org/smart
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> for smart. :P
[08:05] <pontos> but is aptitude compatible with adept?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> its a front end ot the apt-get system like all the rest.
[08:05] <pontos> can they be used interchangably?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> adept is just a fancy kde front end.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> aptitude has some better features in that it keeps track of whats installed better (i hear)
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[08:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:06] <pontos> ok, so everything works on the same info / package database (apt / dpkg)?
[08:07] <Zamboulie> hey
[08:07] <Zamboulie> anyone need help?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> what am i doing wrong if k3b sees a blank CD as "media type: Unknown" and refuses to write to it?
[08:10] <RawSewage> ironfroggy, maybe the CD is upside down
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:10] <pontos> does anyone know when kubuntu will support kernel 2.6.16 ?
[08:11] <ironfroggy> RawSewage: it is not
[08:11] <RawSewage> ironfroggy, is it mounted
[08:11] <ironfroggy> nope
[08:11] <RawSewage> try mounting it
[08:11] <ironfroggy> its a blank CD...
[08:11] <RawSewage> dont you still have to mount it
[08:12] <ironfroggy> you cant mount a blank CD, no.
[08:12] <ironfroggy> its just a device. it has no file system.
[08:14] <_bbeck> pontos: I think currently edgy eft is running 2.6.17, out of curiousity what's in 2.6.16 that you're waiting for?
[08:19] <lupine_85> kubuntu never will. compile your own ;)
[08:20] <Dasnipa] [> lupine_85, that made no sense
[08:21] <Agios> new kernel, new nvidia drivers :)
[08:23] <pontos> well, just curious, other destros are running kernel 2.6.16, e.g. suse and fedora
[08:24] <crimsun> kubuntu 6.06.1 uses 2.6.15
[08:24] <CVirus> so ?
[08:24] <crimsun> + a ton of patches
[08:24] <Stardog> how to browse directory as superuser in kubuntu?
[08:24] <CVirus> Stardog: kdesu konqueror
[08:25] <Stardog> thx CVirus :D
[08:26] <Agios> crimsun: how would one determine the patches applied to the ubuntu kernels?
[08:27] <crimsun> Agios: short or long answer?
[08:27] <Agios> try the short first :)
[08:27] <crimsun> Agios: diff(1)
[08:27] <CVirus> Stardog: no problem
[08:27] <Agios> lol
[08:27] <pontos> hehe
[08:27] <Agios> so it's not published
[08:28] <crimsun> Agios: in what sense?
[08:28] <crimsun> Agios: we don't have separate breakout patches as we once did during Warty, Breezy, and Hoary, no.
[08:28] <pontos> cat /dev/null > Agios
[08:28] <crimsun> Agios: the source is still very much published both as orig.tar.gz+diff.gz and at http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-dapper.git;a=summary
[08:28] <Agios> crabstic: well, it would be nice to have a list of patches for each kernel on one of the web sites or forums.
[08:29] <Agios> I realize the source is available.
[08:29] <crimsun> Agios: feel free to generate a script
[08:30] <Agios> alright then, thanks :)
[08:30] <crimsun> we generally don't use patch lists, since the rest of the community uses git anyway
[08:30] <lupine_85> course it did. "kubuntu never will" have 2.6.16). "compile your own" (2.6.16 kernel)
[08:31] <Stardog> CVirus:  eh... that didn't work properly... i need to run a command in console that make me browse, copy and paste as root in the /usr directory.... do you know that command?
[08:32] <Agios> crimsun: that actually is good enough for what I was looking for. thanks
[08:32] <lupine_85> stardog: sudo
[08:34] <Stardog> lupine_85: just recently gone over from ubuntu to kubuntu... but i can't remember the command in terminal that opens a rootwindow for my computer directory....
[08:35] <lupine_85> su
[08:35] <lupine_85> might as well do it properly
[08:36] <lupine_85> (might have to sudo passwd first)
[08:37] <DanaG> Does anyone have working visualizations in Amarok?
[08:39] <DanaG> !amarok
[08:40] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[08:40] <DanaG> !libvisual
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libvisual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <DanaG> !libvisual-plugins
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libvisual-plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <imbrandon> DanaG: visualsations are a bit broke right now, give me about an 2 hours if your using mine
[08:41] <imbrandon> and i'll have it fixed up
[08:43] <DanaG> aah, cool.
[08:43] <_bbeck> I think I remember there was talk about replacing the current init daemon with a new one, does anyone what the status of that project is?
[08:43] <DanaG> I tried to force-install the edgy libvisual-plugins, and though it didn't break anything, it didn't fix anything either.
[08:45] <DanaG> Does Amarok do Shoutcast?
[08:46] <crimsun> meaning can you listen to http streams? yes. Can you generate your own "shoutcast" stream using amarok solely? no.
[08:46] <DanaG> Cool.
[08:47] <DanaG> I don't need the server.
[08:51] <lupine_85> _bbecky: planning I think
[08:51] <lupine_85> _bbeck rather ;)
[08:51] <lupine_85> there's a wiki page
[08:51] <lupine_85> and a launchpad spec, IIRC
[08:56] <_bbeck> lupine_85: thanks, I just found the wiki page
[08:58] <ravenous> anyone here run kbfx? can you change that icon animation on mouse over to something other than a butterfly or turn it off?
[09:11] <DanaG> bye
[09:23] <srdjant_slack> Anyone here run Skype? Is it sane? The wikipedia page seems to suggest it uses spyware-like techniques.
[09:24] <lupine_85> it's a p2p client, in many ways
[09:24] <srdjant_slack> yup
[09:24] <srdjant_slack> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype#Criticisms
[09:25] <lupine_85> Not a big deal, TBH
[09:25] <lupine_85> but I'd never use it, since IAX2 and SIP are better protocols
[09:25] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:25] <srdjant_slack> My parents want to use it since some of their friends are on skype.
[09:26] <aliasfred> srdjant_slack: i read the whole paragraph, i didnt see the mention of spyware
[09:26] <lupine_85> terminology abuse
[09:27] <srdjant_slack> sorry. s/spyware/malware/
[09:27] <aliasfred> ah ok
[09:27] <lupine_85> it's not really spyware, as such. It just makes use of your hardware in ways it doesn't make clear
[09:27] <aliasfred> im quite interested in p2p
[09:27] <lupine_85> passing on other people's phone conversations & such, IIRC
[09:27] <aliasfred> and i never heard any rumor of malware in skype
[09:27] <guester> srdjant_slack: get them to use something sane? =p
[09:27] <lupine_85> depends on how yopu define it ;)
[09:27] <aliasfred> all the obfuscation tech are usual in close source project
[09:27] <srdjant_slack> i'm not wasting my limited bandwidth on other people's conversations
[09:27] <guester> like XMPP (GTalk) or SIP
[09:28] <lupine_85> SIP is good :)
[09:28] <guester> SIP is the standing VoIP standard
[09:28] <srdjant_slack> guester, my parent's firends use windows and are not as tech-savvy as us lot ;)
[09:28] <lupine_85> IAX2 is "ok"
[09:28] <guester> being replaced with IAX2 and XMPP
[09:28] <aliasfred> well all p2p protocol implies to share your resources
[09:28] <guester> srdjant_slack: GTalk is Windows only
[09:28] <srdjant_slack> it's the same problem as with IPv6
[09:28] <srdjant_slack> transitioning
[09:29] <guester> I have IPv6 at home
[09:29] <srdjant_slack> if you have lots of people use one thing, it's harder to move to another, incompatible thing
[09:29] <guester> SIP has been around longer
[09:29] <guester> and has more support
[09:29] <lupine_85> ping6 me!
[09:29] <srdjant_slack> guester, I didn't mean IPv6 as the tech. I meant the transitioning from IPv4 to IPv6/.
[09:30] <lupine_85> 2001:8b0:c7:d00d::3 ;)
[09:30] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, connect: Network is unreachable
[09:30] <guester> lupine_85: eww, that's not a normal IPv6 address =p
[09:30] <sleeptyper> guester,  sure it is
[09:30] <srdjant_slack> guester, why not?
[09:30] <lupine_85> sorry, ::2
[09:30] <guester> lupine_85: your system is supposed to automatically assign it based on your network and MAC address
[09:30] <lupine_85> radvd is not nice
[09:30] <sleeptyper> looks fine IPv6 to me
[09:30] <guester> sure it is
[09:31] <lupine_85> no it's not :)
[09:31] <aliasfred> nah i did better than ipv6 :)
[09:31] <guester> sleeptyper: it's not autoconfigured
[09:31] <lupine_85> I like knowing what my computers are called
[09:31] <aliasfred> deering go to bed i dwarf you :)
[09:31] <sleeptyper> but it's valid IPv6 ;)
[09:31] <guester> lupine_85: that's what DNS is for
[09:31] <guester> sleeptyper: never said it was invalid
[09:31] <srdjant_slack> and that's what /etc/hosts is for
[09:32] <lupine_85> indeed it is
[09:32] <sredna> Hello
[09:32] <sredna> If I installed kmplayer and mplayer, shouldn't I get a kmplayerpart that I can use to view video in konqueror/KHTML?
[09:32] <Zamboulie> can somene link me to that huge ubuntu wiki
[09:33] <sredna> The kaffeine plugin doesn't work well enough
[09:33] <srdjant_slack> Zamboulie, google
[09:34] <mani_> !linuxvirus
[09:34] <sredna> Ah, the we-want 2304569830679685098730456239625934876304564 packages principle strikes again
[09:34] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:34] <sredna> Sorry d00d3z
[09:34] <arepie_> is there any preaquisite for game slune ?
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> arepie_,   prober;ly depends on quite a few other packages
[09:35] <Zamboulie> no i can't find it on google
[09:35] <srdjant_slack> Zamboulie, wtf?
[09:35] <srdjant_slack> it's the first flipping result
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:35] <arepie_> Dr_Willis: i've search for slune in adept, i found none.. only 1, the game
[09:35] <Zamboulie> its this massive wikipedia style guide
[09:35] <Zamboulie> it shows u how to do everything in ubuntu
[09:35] <srdjant_slack> yes that's what it is
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> arepie_,  its not showing the  'depends' - instal lit and see what else it wants to install..
[09:36] <srdjant_slack> Zamboulie, what did you search as?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> or they are all - installed allready
[09:36] <srdjant_slack> what did you enter in google search?
[09:36] <Zamboulie> ubuntu guide
[09:36] <srdjant_slack> Zamboulie can somene link me to that huge ubuntu wiki
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> !wiki
[09:36] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:36] <srdjant_slack> why "guide" ???
[09:36] <Zamboulie> found it!
[09:36] <Zamboulie> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[09:36] <arepie_> !slune
[09:37] <ubotu> slune: 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 10441 kB, installed size 25824 kB
[09:37] <Dr_Willis>  Unofficial Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Starter Guide
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:37] <arepie_> how to check if it depends on other ?
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[09:37] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> or fire up adept or whatever and see the details
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> its a python based game..
[09:38] <lupine_85> get-deps + whatever option for simulate?
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> arepie_,  why does this matter anyway?
[09:38] <sredna> (and that the debian/ubuntu [k] mplayer would be compiled with matroska support)
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> If you want the thing . install it. and whatever else it should auto-install
[09:38] <arepie_> Dr_Willis: i've installed the game, but i didn't see it on the K Menu
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> arepie_,  thats got NOTHING to do with dependencies...
[09:38] <arepie_> or, should i restart first?
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> type 'slune' perhaps
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> games/arcade/slune - is where i see an icon
[09:39] <arepie_> i did, and it only show the program alone
[09:39] <arepie_> let me restart my computer first..
[09:39] <arepie_> brb
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> whatever. :P
[09:41] <Dr_Willis>  Slune * (Psyco not found ; if you are using an x86 processor, installing psyco  can speed up Slune a little)
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.
[09:41] <jan_> hi everyone
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> moo
[09:42] <srdjant_slack> baaaaa
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> *Squirtle*
[09:43] <Zamboulie> umm is it possible to install XGL through adept?
[09:43] <ubuntu> which file is the x-server resolutoins kept in?
[09:43] <srdjant_slack> xgl is cool
[09:43] <Zamboulie> well is it possible?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Zamboulie,  i would avoide xgl at this time... :)
[09:43] <guester> ubuntu: xorg.conf, if not autodetected
[09:43] <Zamboulie> cuz i think i just did
[09:43] <noobuntu> thank
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> it  can.. break things. and be a pain to remove
[09:43] <srdjant_slack> no idea, but with many many many hours of compiling on slackware, it is possible
[09:43] <Zamboulie> i installed a package called xserver-xgl
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> i saw a script/setof tools on kde-look.org that supposed to set up xgl under kubuntu. But i aint touching them!
[09:44] <arepie> Dr_Willis: ok.. it's already appear..
[09:44] <kubunick> um..
[09:44] <kubunick> I just got a weird irc message
[09:45] <kubunick> :O
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> arepie,  the most you had to do.. was logout of X and back in.. dident need to reboot
[09:45] <arepie> Dr_Willis: but i can't run the application.. it shows the loading application, but then nothing appear..
[09:45] <linuxkid2> I keep getting these really strange errors when running aptitude.
[09:45] <kubunick> the user had a bunch of weird letters in the name and it said "index me"
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> arepie,  run it from a terminal. check error messages
[09:45] <Zamboulie> guys what does that package do?
[09:46] <Zamboulie> cuz i read somewhere you can just get xgl through adept
[09:46] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have a problem with apt-get, whenever it type apt-get anything it comes up with... The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[09:46] <TheFuzzball>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libc6-amd64: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-3 is installed
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-3 is installed
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-3 is installed
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libtunepimp-bin: Depends: libtunepimp3-mp3 (>= 0.4.2) but it is not installable
[09:47] <kubunick> spam!
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libtunepimp-perl: Depends: libtunepimp3-mp3 (>= 0.4.2) but it is not installable
[09:47] <kubunick> :O
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>                     Depends: libtunepimp3 (= 0.4.2-3ubuntu2) but 0.4.2-3.2 is installed
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>   libtunepimp3: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is installed
[09:47] <TheFuzzball>                 Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is installed
[09:47] <kubunick> stop
[09:47] <kubunick> jeez
[09:47] <TheFuzzball> sorry for the paste
[09:47] <linuxkid2> Zamboulie: adept is just graphic frontend to apt-get. the command line is safer.
[09:47] <Zamboulie> well how do i get xgl through apt-get
[09:47] <Zamboulie> i heard u can
[09:47] <kubunick> heard from who?
[09:48] <Zamboulie> i read it somewhere leme find it
[09:48] <linuxkid2> I keep getting these really strange errors when running aptitude.
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> dsl?
[09:48] <Zamboulie> Howto for installing Xgl on kde or gnome.
[09:48] <Zamboulie> NOTE: Before following this guide, you should be aware of, that there has been add'ed deb's in the repos now. So you could just apt-get it all.
[09:48] <apallo27> grrr
[09:48] <Zamboulie> see?
[09:48] <apallo27> my screen is stuck at 640x480...
[09:48] <linuxkid2> errors pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21720
[09:49] <guester> Xgl doesn't work with KDE yet...
[09:49] <Zamboulie> omg
[09:49] <apallo27> and the config gui wont let me go higher, is there a way to manually fix it?
[09:49] <Zamboulie> so i have to do it manually?
[09:49] <cvasilak> hi there, just installed the latest driver from nvidia. the problem is when i restart i get in X version mismatch in kernel module the kernel module has the old driver but the X driver uses the new. I do modprobe -r nvidia and modprobe nvidia and it just works. where the hell is the old driver kernel? in /lib/modules/2.blbla in the nvidia.ko has the latest timestamp, please please help
[09:49] <linuxkid2> KDE only really works with KWin, right?
[09:49] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[09:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:49] <guester> linuxkid2: right, KWin is a necessary part of KDE
[09:49] <linuxkid2> so how do you replace it with Compiz
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> linuxkid2,  you can change kwin - i hear.. but never messed with it.
[09:50] <srdjant_slack> guester, linuxkid2: wrong. kde works with xgl
[09:50] <kubunick> Dr_Willis, can you help me a sec?
[09:50] <linuxkid2> I was just talking, I new it did.
[09:50] <guester> srdjant_slack: not unless that was a recent change to KWin
[09:50] <Zamboulie> which ones do i change from multiverse
[09:50] <Zamboulie> to multiverse*
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> kubunick,  with what?  : _)
[09:50] <arepie> !ati
[09:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:51] <linuxkid2> I keep getting these really strange errors when running aptitude.
[09:51] <linuxkid2> errors pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21720
[09:51] <mani_> !sis
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> arepie,  and the ati drivers can be a PAIN
[09:51] <srdjant_slack> http://rafb.net/paste/results/QqR8Vk30.html   <--- my script i use to start kde+xgl
[09:51] <Zamboulie> !multiverse
[09:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:51] <kubunick> Dr_Willis, just got a strange message from somebody I didn't know (with a wierd nick) and it said "index me".. wtf?
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> kubunick,  no clue there..  could be some sort of irc bot/exploit
[09:52] <Zamboulie> ok which ones do i change to multiverse guys
[09:53] <Hawkwind> !repos > Zamboulie
[09:53] <kubunick> Dr_Willis, I did just forward ports.. would that have anything to do with it? What would would he want to index into me?
[09:53] <Hawkwind> Zamboulie: Read what the bot told you in pm please
[09:53] <apallo27> hmmm, xorg.conf shows all the resolutions my monitor/videocard is capable of displaying, but the gui won't let me change it
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> linuxkid2,  thats very weird.. im not sure what its talking about.. device?  hmm..
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> kubunick,  msg him and ask. :P i dobt if port forawrdng means anything    to it.
[09:54] <kubunick> Dr_Willis, I got two messages simutaniously.. so I would consider it bots but wtf?
[09:54] <apallo27> yay, fixed it
[09:54] <apallo27> nevermind
[09:54] <linuxkid2> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> linuxkid2,  nope.  never seen anything like that message befor
[09:55] <linuxkid2> It's very scary. "global destruction". weird.
[09:55] <kubunick> oh
[09:56] <kubunick> I got that error
[09:56] <kubunick> lol.
[09:56] <kubunick> it hasn't done anything to me yet. >_>
[09:56] <guester> global destruction sounds fu
[09:56] <jan_> does anyone remember the step you must take before installing the ATI driver package?
[09:56] <guester> fun
[09:56] <jan_> I believe it has something to do with a blacklist
[09:56] <linuxkid2> maybe something to do with the new xserver-cor thing
[09:56] <KaiHanari> what did i just miss?
[09:56] <kubunick> when did you get that error linuxkid2?
[09:56] <guester> jan_: why not use the normal radeon driver?
[09:56] <linuxkid2> yeah, It hasn't messed anything up, but it is weird.
[09:57] <cvasilak> hi there, just installed the latest driver from nvidia. the problem is when i restart i get in X version mismatch in kernel module the kernel module has the old driver but the X driver uses the new. I do modprobe -r nvidia and modprobe nvidia and it just works. where the hell is the old driver kernel? in /lib/modules/2.blbla in the nvidia.ko has the latest timestamp, please please help
[09:57] <linuxkid2> kubunick just when I was installing a package.
[09:57] <kubunick> oh, same here.
[09:57] <kubunick> or something like that.
[09:57] <linuxkid2> hadn't seen it before the update.
[09:57] <kubunick> I don't think it's anything to worry about.. but weird eh?
[09:57] <linuxkid2> And it talks about X.
[09:57] <jan_> guester: what do you mean?
[09:57] <linuxkid2> Yeah, very wierd.
[09:57] <guester> cvasilak: locate nvidia.ko
[09:57] <kubunick> I just closed the terminal and forgot about it.
[09:57] <Zamboulie> ok i read that thing on repositories but i dont know which ones to change though
[09:57] <guester> jan_: the radeon driver included with X.org
[09:57] <Zamboulie> someone just tell me which ones
[09:58] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, ive missed something about global destruction, care to fill me in?
[09:58] <Hawkwind> Zamboulie: The bot tells you all the info
[09:58] <linuxkid2> errors pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21720
[09:58] <jan_> guester: does it include everything that ati's package include?
[09:58] <jan_> guester: this laptop will be used for graphics
[09:58] <linuxkid2> hmm... gotta hunch, brb
 line 2 during               global destruction.
[09:59] <KaiHanari> yikes
[09:59] <kubunick> linuxkid2: lol, yeah.. I don't remember seeing those X errors though o_O
[09:59] <j2daosh> !samba
[09:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:59] <KaiHanari> that system has a grudge against someone!
[09:59] <guester> jan_: it supports up to the 9250
[09:59] <jan_> guester: this has x1400
[09:59] <jan_> guester: no good
[10:00] <guester> jan_: shoulda thought about that before buying an unsupported card
[10:00] <jan_> guester: I'll be back later on
[10:00] <KaiHanari> kubunick, ive seen all those errors excludign the last line.
[10:00] <zblach> hi. i have a desktop and a laptop. what should I use to access the desktop from the laptop? like ssh? vnc?
[10:00] <kubunick> must be some kind of terror plot to own our computers!
[10:00] <zblach> >_> <_<
[10:00] <KaiHanari> zblach, depends on what you want to access
[10:00] <guester> zblach: xdamagevnc
[10:00] <zblach> xdamagevnc?
[10:01] <linuxkid2> zblach: vnc is okay over LAN. faster connection helps. SSH over the internet for security.
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> vnc lets you have hidden virtual desktops.. or for linux to linux. freenx is a better answer.. or if just running apps. you can just ssh -X over. and run  x apps
[10:01] <srdjant_slack> hey any ideas why samba spawns hundreds of smbd processes on kubuntu 6.06 when recievign lots of files?
[10:01] <zblach> Dr_Willis: can you elaborate a bit?
[10:01] <zblach> i have openssh-server on the desky, and openssh-client on the lappy
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> zblach,  on which part.. :P what os's are you connecting. :P
[10:01] <Wendelin> Where do I get the signatures for the security repository of Dapper?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> ssh -X remotemachine
[10:02] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, type this: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"   without quotes in a terminal, and see if stuff about wacom is commented out
[10:02] <zblach> dapper connect to breezy
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> then 'konsole'
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> it should appear locally
[10:02] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, ive had those errors come from that stuff being there before, but not the last line
[10:02] <linuxkid2> odd
[10:03] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, if you comment out the input sections for wacom (only if you dont have a stylus device) dont forget to comment their corresponding lines at the end of the file
[10:04] <linuxkid2> KaiHanari: so, it's the pen drivers that are screwing me?
[10:05] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, the bad device errors are probably coming from that , yes. they did for me and a few others. but the dead object ive never seen before
[10:05] <KaiHanari> thats something to do with Qt
[10:05] <linuxkid2> yeah I noticed that. the global destruction bit is just weird.
[10:06] <thompa> is anyone using konqueror in gnome?
[10:06] <j2daosh> question, got 3 computers at home that are still running winblows (cant get the wife and kids away from it :( ... ) anyway, i wanna sambatize them so i can backup everything for when they get a virus/spyware. i dont have a domain setup though... only a workgroup... will it still work?
[10:06] <guester> j2daosh: why not force them to get away from it?
[10:06] <zblach> so, how am I to configure sshd?
[10:06] <guester> eg, don't make it an option
[10:06] <guester> zblach: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:06] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, my guess on tthat is your computer has had a bad life and wishes its own fate to the rest of the world XD
[10:06] <j2daosh> lol cuz im married and if i want some i have to let her win sometimes
[10:07] <j2daosh> :P
[10:07] <zblach> guester: right, but ... i'm still lost
[10:07] <guester> j2daosh: the man is the head of the household, she has to accept your authority =p
[10:07] <j2daosh> zblach: what are you trying to do?
[10:07] <guester> j2daosh: and she can't deny your marital rights
[10:07] <j2daosh> lol yeah but as the head of the hole, i have to let her win some :)
[10:08] <guester> j2daosh: only if she's right!
[10:08] <j2daosh> lol
[10:08] <j2daosh> which to her is constantly ;P
[10:08] <guester> you didn't get the memo?
[10:08] <zblach> j2daosh: i've a dapper laptop and i want to dial into my local breezy desktop
[10:08] <guester> wives are always right
[10:08] <j2daosh> zblach: what are you trying to do?
[10:08] <j2daosh> gotcha
[10:08] <j2daosh> so what is the issue?
[10:09] <guester> j2daosh: anyway, why not open Konq and go to smb://windozebox?
[10:09] <JonTec> is there anyway to make your linux drive viewable by windows? I'm tired of transfering things by way of network or pen drive
[10:09] <j2daosh> cuz i wanna automagically back up the files everynight
[10:09] <guester> JonTec: if you don't mind a high risk of corrupting the partition
[10:09] <guester> j2daosh: KDE is scriptable
[10:09] <j2daosh> jontec, yeah, make a partion that is vfat
[10:09] <JonTec> vfat?
[10:10] <j2daosh> or just mount the ntfs drive as readable (youwont be abe to write
[10:10] <j2daosh> yeah, windows 95 16 bit partition
[10:10] <guester> he said access Linux drive from windows
[10:10] <guester> not transfer files
[10:10] <j2daosh> oh then get ext2ifs
[10:10] <slow-motion> re
[10:10] <j2daosh> its a driver for windows to view ext3 partitions on linux
[10:11] <zblach> j2daosh: i just want to use my desktop for slave labour. things like downloads, and want my laptop to have nothing to do with it
[10:11] <zblach> open a terminal to my desktop
[10:11] <zblach> and wget stuff
[10:11] <KaiHanari> JonTec, there are a few apps for windows that can do that. google / search the forums for how to mount an ext3 partition on windows
[10:11] <j2daosh> zblach: on the host comp do sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:11] <srdjant_slack> don't use win 95 16 bit
[10:11] <KaiHanari> i believe it only works on windows 2k and up
[10:11] <guester> the catch is, all Windows ext2 access stuff has been known to corrupt the fs
[10:11] <srdjant_slack> j2daosh, win 95 32bit vfat
[10:11] <j2daosh> its 32 bit?!
[10:11] <srdjant_slack> :O
[10:11] <zblach> j2daosh: now what?
[10:11] <srdjant_slack> yes
[10:11] <j2daosh> where have i been ::lowers head::
[10:12] <srdjant_slack> lol
[10:12] <j2daosh> on the lappy do sudo apt-get install freenx
[10:12] <zblach> freenx? not openssh-client?
[10:12] <zblach> 'couldn't find freenx'
[10:12] <j2daosh> nope, freenx will let you do vnc and rdp also
[10:12] <JonTec> okay... thanks. I'll talk with some ofyou guys later... I have a specific reason for doing that
[10:12] <linuxkid2> i need to learn how to use sed or awk so I don't have to use vi to comment this crap out.
[10:12] <j2daosh> u will need the repo
[10:12] <j2daosh> !freenx
[10:12] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:12] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, use pico or nano
[10:12] <KaiHanari> linuxkid2, much cleaner than vi
[10:13] <guester> still won't help comment a bunch of crap
[10:13] <j2daosh> bullshit!!thats blashamous!! vim is the shizznit
[10:13] <j2daosh> :P
[10:13] <KaiHanari> guester, linuxkid2 then kdesu kate <file>     :P then use find/replace
[10:13] <linuxkid2> that might work
[10:14] <guester> KaiHanari: you mean Ctrl-D
[10:14] <srdjant_slack> KaiHanari linuxkid2, much cleaner than vi   <--- use vim, much cleaner than vi
[10:14] <guester> kwrite supports commenting
[10:14] <j2daosh> actually... crap... lol zblach... did you want just ssh? or did you want to be able to port the gui?
[10:15] <srdjant_slack> kwrite is awesome though
[10:15] <linuxkid2> vim, vi, I can't actuall tell the diff.
[10:15] <srdjant_slack> there is a difference
[10:15] <j2daosh> vim supports color coding
[10:15] <guester> a big difference
[10:15] <j2daosh> plus other things
[10:15] <zblach> do azureus/amule accept command line?
[10:15] <linuxkid2> that is one I noticed
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> and vim comes with ponies!
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:15] <j2daosh> i just like the colors... mmmm pretty
[10:15] <guester> vim supports sane keystrokes
[10:15] <zblach> gui is nice too
[10:15] <zblach> in fact, gui would be good
[10:15] <guester> delete key doesn't mean capitalize, for example
[10:15] <srdjant_slack> just make sure you turn on a mode, and you get highlighting, proper arrow movement for cursor, status bar at the bottom, linuxkid2
[10:15] <j2daosh> ok then yeah, u will need oppenssh-server and also the freenx server
[10:16] <j2daosh> u said it was breezy right?
[10:16] <j2daosh> with the lappy being dapper?
[10:16] <zblach> yeah
[10:16] <zblach> i have the seveas packages, and did the whole key thing, but freenx isn't showing up
[10:17] <j2daosh> ill give you a link that u need to follow
[10:17] <linuxkid2> srdjant_slack: I didn't want to start a text-editor flame war. I just wanted to say that the automated utils like awk would be good to learn
[10:17] <fir3_> hi
[10:17] <j2daosh> http://www.snakeoillabs.com/2005/10/27/freenx-on-ubuntu-breezy-howto/
[10:17] <fir3_> i installed kubuntu on my macbook, but after a reboot i can't boot anymore
[10:18] <fir3_> it can't find the ram disk image
[10:18] <j2daosh> with the exception of changing the key (the freenx on your lappy don't support it very well), follow it to a t.... keep the default nomachine keys
[10:18] <j2daosh> lol linuxkid2 just learn perl
[10:18] <j2daosh> or python, or ruby
[10:18] <fir3_> i made a link named /boot/initrd.img to /boot/initrd-kernel.img but that didn't help
[10:18] <j2daosh> or chsell,bash
[10:19] <linuxkid2> yeah, learn something. I don't know a lick of coding, but want to learn.
[10:20] <linuxkid2> j2daosh: if your using bash, I'm sure that awk, grep, and other automated utils get called a lot.
[10:20] <j2daosh> zblach: on the lappy, install lssh
[10:20] <j2daosh> sounds like a choking sound and that scares me
[10:21] <j2daosh> :P
[10:21] <linuxkid2> bye bye all, restarting X
[10:21] <j2daosh> linux.... nevermind
[10:21] <j2daosh> he should really get irssi
[10:21] <jasondotgnu> xgl/compiz/cgwd?
[10:21] <j2daosh> what the hell is that character?
[10:22] <jasondotgnu> sorry, wrong charset.
[10:22] <guester> Chinese, I think
[10:22] <j2daosh> lol
[10:22] <j2daosh> :P
[10:22] <j2daosh> u want to know how to do it?
[10:22] <j2daosh> !xgl
[10:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:22] <jasondotgnu> I want to ask any guy here using xgl/compiz/cgwd on kubuntu?
[10:22] <j2daosh> there u go buddy
[10:22] <j2daosh> i am
[10:23] <zblach> lssh?
[10:23] <j2daosh> i haven't gotten bored of the eye candy yet
[10:23] <guester> j2daosh: with KDE/KWin?
[10:23] <bones> Hi all
[10:23] <j2daosh> yep, xgl was screwy withmy gnome
[10:23] <j2daosh> lssh is like putty for linux
[10:23] <guester> when did KDE add Xgl support?
[10:23] <j2daosh> or get the openssh-client... whichever
[10:24] <guester> j2daosh: if you want putty, why not just install putty?
[10:24] <jasondotgnu> I faced some strage things today, when I just press <Alt> key in a window, then the window move to the next virtual desk :(
[10:24] <j2daosh> guester... dont know... i ported from ubuntu :P
[10:24] <j2daosh> must be a shortcut key you got set jason, check system settings, regional, keyboard shortcuts
[10:25] <j2daosh> guester, because i only like putty in windows :P
[10:25] <j2daosh> i dont wanna mix putty and windows... i like the clean look of linux... and it doesn't suck like windows
[10:25] <j2daosh> linux/windows not putty/windows
[10:25] <jasondotgnu> I don't know if this is an updated compiz issue, or my configuration is wrong. I have checked all my compiz plugin key bindings, but I don't thinks I bind just <alt> key to switch the window to another desk.
[10:26] <j2daosh> jasondotgnu: check your system settings
[10:26] <j2daosh> its not compiz
[10:26] <j2daosh> well... then again...
[10:26] <jasondotgnu> ok, I'll check again.
[10:26] <j2daosh> hmm... ill tell you in 2 hours when i can get home and sit in front of this computer
[10:27] <j2daosh> but i thought i saw that in the system settings, regional, shortcuts section
[10:27] <j2daosh> linuxkid2: did you restart your whole computer?
[10:27] <linuxkid2> hmm, that wacom thing fixed the object not found errors, but aptitude still tells me about global destruction
[10:27] <linuxkid2> no, just X
[10:27] <j2daosh> oh ok
[10:28] <j2daosh> global destruction? you have gw bush jr on your comp?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Just wait for Hillary!
[10:28] <j2daosh> hell no
[10:28] <linuxkid2> not remotely. but I do have this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21720
[10:28] <j2daosh> ill move to romania
[10:28] <linuxkid2> j2daosh: I'll be waiting for you to come screaming back to america
[10:29] <j2daosh> lol
[10:29] <j2daosh> nah
[10:29] <j2daosh> it aint that bad there actually
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> "Hillary invades romania!"
[10:29] <j2daosh> gymnists as far as the eye can see
[10:29] <j2daosh> :P
[10:29] <linuxkid2> It's to near problem spots like russia and the balkans and the middle east for me.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> and more  harry legs then a big foot convention!
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Hairy even
[10:29] <j2daosh> lol not the ones i have been seeing lol
[10:30] <j2daosh> what is your device 166?
[10:30] <linuxkid2> j2daosh: Oh, that's not there anymore, I fixed that. wacom. but the global destruction line is still there.
[10:32] <linuxkid2> weird, isn't it?
[10:33] <ravenous> im trying to set the user image in kde under control center -> password & user account but it says 'your administrator has disallowed changing your image'? how can i change this?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> run the kdm config tool and let the users do it.
[10:34] <linuxkid2> ravenous: but the default kdm screen doesn't even have avatars, so why bother?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:34] <ravenous> its for kbfx
[10:34] <linuxkid2> how do you change that anyways?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> Avatars! aint We fancy!
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:34] <ravenous> the mouse over tooltip shows the default image, and with none set its blank and ugly
[10:35] <gg> #kubuntu_de
[10:35] <linuxkid2> k
[10:35] <linuxkid2> Dr_Willis: how does one change the kdm theme anyways?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> with that kdm configuration/control panel program
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> system admin/login manager
[10:36] <linuxkid2> I tried that. maybe if I do try again...
[10:37] <lupine_85> 'lo fiona
[10:37] <[GuS] > is not on login  manager...
[10:37] <fiona> lo lupine
[10:37] <[GuS] > you must install kdmtheme linuxkid2
[10:37] <linuxkid2> ok.
[10:37] <[GuS] > is a theme switcher for kdm
[10:37] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[10:37] <linuxkid2> once I do, how do I access it?
[10:38] <[GuS] > and then.. you will have a new icon insitde systemsettings
[10:38] <[GuS] > inside*
[10:38] <linuxkid2> ok
[10:38] <[GuS] > or
[10:38] <[GuS] > if that does not work.. try the package kcontrol-kdmtheme
[10:39] <linuxkid2> k
[10:40] <linuxkid2> where do I get new themes? kde-look.org?
[10:40] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2: Yes, kde-look.org
[10:40] <fiona> does anyone know how to get programs to come on automatically in the right desktop when starting up?
[10:41] <linuxkid2> cool. this is gonna be fun. cya!
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> eyecandy is fun!
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:41] <reddwolf> hello
[10:42] <arepie> if i update the 3d driver, is it working faster?
[10:42] <reddwolf> can someone help me figure something out
[10:43] <reddwolf> i have the update version for kubuntu 6.06  but it will not run can someone help me
[10:44] <reddwolf> my upgrade if to the kubuntu 6.06.1
[10:44] <reddwolf> *is
[10:45] <reddwolf> can anyone help me
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> arepie,  Huh?
[10:48] <reddwolf> could someone please help me out figure out what i should do
[10:54] <steveire> what's the command to show the version of a package?
[10:55] <chavo> steveire, usually command --version
[10:56] <steveire> sorry, I meant the apt command. it's a python package and doesn't have a command
[10:58] <tomaczec> hi
[10:58] <whatever> there was a 3 gb file in my /home/ folder!! - the file being .xsession-errors!!
[10:59] <steveire> hehe
[10:59] <lupine_85> cor
[10:59] <whatever> rm .xsession-eeors deleted it, but didn't free the space. A restart solved the problem
[10:59] <whatever> his has happened the second time, whats up?
[10:59] <lupine_85> 16040   .xsession-errors
[10:59] <lupine_85> bah
[11:00] <lupine_85> ...what are the errors? ;)
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> paste it!
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:00] <whatever> "vi .xesession errore" , showed a zero line file
[11:00] <whatever> 0
[11:00] <lupine_85> tail .xsession-errors would have been better
[11:01] <j2daosh> ok im back now
[11:03] <srdjant> just cat /dev/null > .xsession-errors   :)
[11:10] <enzo_> How can I extract music from a cd? It's nothing more than mp3s
[11:11] <j2daosh> if i want to add a program to startup... would that go in inittab or init.d?
[11:11] <srdjant_slack> not inittab!
[11:12] <j2daosh> why not?
[11:12] <srdjant_slack> that's the file read by init
[11:12] <srdjant_slack> sacred file
[11:12] <j2daosh> yeah... but doesn't stuff in init run from initab?
[11:12] <srdjant_slack> stuff in init??
[11:12] <linuxkid2> You want to start graphical programs by defualt, then put a link to the app in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:12] <srdjant_slack> init is a program...
[11:12] <j2daosh> yeah...
[11:13] <linuxkid2> command apps, they go in inittab
[11:13] <srdjant_slack> no
[11:13] <srdjant_slack>  /etc/inittab should not be touched unless you know what you're doing
[11:14] <chavo> you can use rc.local for non x stuff
[11:14] <linuxkid2> oh, ok
[11:14] <chavo> it runs after all the other init stuff
[11:14] <srdjant_slack> yes, rc.local would be a LOT better than /etc/inittab
[11:14] <linuxkid2> don't touch .xinit either.
[11:15] <lupine_85> editing /etc/inittab is a good way to end up with a b0rked system :)
[11:15] <chavo> yes
[11:15] <j2daosh> lupine_85: kinda like when i chmod 777 the /usr directory? :P
[11:15] <j2daosh> chmod'd
[11:15] <j2daosh> only did it once :)
[11:16] <srdjant_slack> linuxkid2, I don't have .xinit, so probably not too critical. But like lupine_85 said, messing with it borks the system. /sbin/init reads /etc/inittab at boot to figure out what to do early on in the boot process.
[11:16] <linuxkid2> sounds like asking for bit trouble
[11:16] <lupine_85> "can" bork the system
[11:16] <linuxkid2> whatever the file is that startx accesses
[11:16] <lupine_85> if you know what you're doing (and if you have to ask, you don't) it can be quite handy
[11:17] <srdjant_slack> yes, can bork the system
[11:17] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, inittab?
[11:17] <j2daosh> yeah
[11:17] <lupine_85> yes, inittab
[11:17] <lupine_85> although replacing /sbin/init can also be fun :)
[11:18] <j2daosh> like if your system dont mount certain drives at start because the connection cant be established before it comes up... put asleep in it
[11:18] <srdjant_slack> yeah, slackware as default only has 1 tty when in runlevel 4, so i edited it to get all 6, and the default is 3 which is non-X11
[11:18] <linuxkid2>  /sbin/init ? isn't that the actual inti binary? carefull...... :0
[11:18] <lupine_85> it's uber-living-it-dangerously stuff ;)
[11:18] <srdjant_slack> lupine_85, you can do similar with the bootchart project, but at the bootloader, you tell it to run a different init process, which eventually calls the real /sbin/init
[11:19] <linuxkid2> well, that's slack
[11:19] <j2daosh> :)
[11:19] <j2daosh> now im curious
[11:19] <srdjant_slack> lol
[11:19] <srdjant_slack> http://www.bootchart.org/
[11:20] <srdjant_slack> try that
[11:20] <linuxkid2> init is a pretty simple program, I think. Doesn't it just access inittab, which is sort of like a shell script accept it's what starts the shell?
[11:20] <srdjant_slack> actually i'll try it with my laptop and kubuntu. I have a feeling kubuntu starts a ton of crap which isn't needed.
[11:20] <lupine_85> you can basically turn the system into anything. Turning /sbin/init into a symlink, and pointing it to random binaries is interesting
[11:20] <linuxkid2> wow, hope you know how to fix that.
[11:21] <linuxkid2> does sound fun though.
[11:21] <lupine_85> but not if you want a production system)
[11:21] <srdjant_slack> same as doing init=/usr/bin/top   at the lilo prompt
[11:21] <linuxkid2> could be useful for embedded work though.
[11:22] <lupine_85> generally for embedded, you just want the one vt on /dev/ttyS0
[11:22] <j2daosh> lol im gonna do that to a workserver :P
[11:22] <j2daosh> wonder how long i would keep my job
[11:22] <j2daosh> j/p
[11:22] <linuxkid2> yeah, I was talking about the replacing /sbin/init stuff
[11:22] <srdjant_slack> i'm really curous - i want to run bootchart on kubuntu :)
[11:22] <lupine_85> turn it into a .deb and submit it to the repos for edgy ;)
[11:22] <lupine_85> cor
[11:22] <chanta> !search ping
[11:23] <lupine_85> RutilT rocks
[11:23] <j2daosh> chanta what are u doing?
[11:23] <lupine_85> (if you have an ralink card)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[11:23] <j2daosh> hey
[11:23] <j2daosh> howdy
[11:23] <j2daosh> hiya
[11:23] <j2daosh> :P
[11:23] <linuxkid2> what's a .deb package got in it anyways?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:24] <j2daosh> binaries
[11:24] <j2daosh> lol
[11:24] <j2daosh> java java java
[11:24] <BluesKaj> programs
[11:24] <Nerevar> hello
[11:24] <linuxkid2> yeah, I gathered that much, but what else?
[11:24] <j2daosh> how goes it morrowwind guy
[11:24] <j2daosh> thats basically it
[11:24] <Nerevar> I have been trying since yesterday to install a Linux OS - anything - on my computer - without any luck
[11:24] <linuxkid2> is it a special zip archive, kind of like a mozilla .xpi ?
[11:24] <lupine_85> unless it's a graphics .deb ;)
[11:24] <j2daosh> Nerevar: what do you mean
[11:25] <j2daosh> ahh yes
[11:25] <lupine_85> a deb is an ar archive which has a few things...
[11:25] <j2daosh> it could be a nice big ole pic of someones mom
[11:25] <gg> #kubuntude
[11:25] <Nerevar> I have tried Kubunty, pclinuxos, mandriva, and knoppix live cd boots. NOTHING works... It hangs on mounting root file system
[11:25] <gg> #kubuntu-de
[11:25] <lupine_85> control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz are the interesting ones
[11:25] <lupine_85> rip one open (ar -x .deb) and have a look
[11:25] <Nerevar> It says something like "drive seems confused" and "irq18: no one seems to care"
[11:25] <linuxkid2> k
[11:26] <Nerevar> depending on which Linux os i try
[11:26] <enzo> gg, type /j #kubuntu-de
[11:26] <linuxkid2> ark can do that
[11:26] <lupine_85> not sure
[11:26] <j2daosh> Nerevar: check your bios settings then
[11:26] <Nerevar> I installed mandrake linux 9.2 on this computer a long time ago but I can't find cd#1
[11:26] <Nerevar> I need SATA enabled because I use it as a primary boot drive
[11:26] <j2daosh> you might have an irq conflict
[11:27] <j2daosh> Nerevar: yeah... normally people have a primaboot disk... unless your a spy with no home
[11:27] <j2daosh> or computer :P
[11:27] <Nerevar> IRQ conflict?
[11:27] <j2daosh> or a bum with a flash drive
[11:27] <Nerevar> Does that even exist in the 21st century? :x
[11:27] <j2daosh> yep
[11:27] <lupine_85> afraid so :(
[11:28] <j2daosh> it will for quite a while
[11:28] <Nerevar> I thought that crap went out in the 90s I havent tuned IRQ settings in over 10 years
[11:28] <lupine_85> hehe, ISA is still with us
[11:28] <j2daosh> lol well knock the dust off that sum biotch and get at it
[11:28] <lupine_85> for some reason, my amd4 mobo still has an ISA bridge
[11:28] <lupine_85> (no ports, though)
[11:28] <lupine_85> s/ports/slots
[11:28] <Nerevar> even if I did have an IRQ conflict, how would i know, this bios tells you that?
[11:29] <larson9999> hmmm xawtv doesn't work for me
[11:29] <j2daosh> i dont know what this bios is, but you might have something configured wrong
[11:29] <fiona_> lupuine im still on i cant get kopete to work!
[11:29] <fiona_> and the wireless one went tits up
[11:29] <lupine_85> oh dear :(
[11:29] <j2daosh> fiona, come to my house ill show you how
[11:29] <lupine_85> type "/join #ubuntu-lupine"
[11:29] <j2daosh> j/p dont cyber slap me or nothing
[11:29] <fiona_> sorry i dont know here you live ;) i only know where lupine lives
[11:29] <j2daosh> what is the error she getting lup?
[11:30] <lupine_85> problem with wireless
[11:30] <j2daosh> well thats a good thing cuz i dont wanna get slapped for real either
[11:30] <lupine_85> more acurrately, with routes etc.
[11:30] <j2daosh> ahh
[11:30] <Kutan> This might be the wrong place but uhhh... how do I uninstall kubuntu? o_o;;
[11:30] <srdjant> reformat the partition
[11:30] <j2daosh> my guess is... reformat
[11:30] <lupine_85>  fiona: type "/join #ubuntu-lupine"
[11:31] <Kutan> ...That's my question pretty much
[11:31] <Kutan> I'm not really good with PCs which is why I want to uninstall kubuntu
[11:31] <j2daosh> u pop in the live cd... go to the format tool... format the drive...
[11:31] <j2daosh> or put in a windows disk... they hate linux
[11:31] <Kutan> I fail at the kontrol panel :(
[11:31] <linuxkid2> interesting. everything in that .deb package belongs to root.
[11:31] <enzo> Why is it that a CD with multi-sessions can read all the files, but DVD won't let you read previous sessions?
[11:32] <j2daosh> kutan... before you delete
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> anyone know how to list the groups a user belongs to?
[11:32] <Kutan> Alright before I uninstall kubuntu I have another question about my root access
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> !java
[11:32] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[11:32] <j2daosh> gate, system settings, users, admin mode, modify
[11:33] <j2daosh> or open a console and type "groups user"
[11:33] <j2daosh> kutan
[11:33] <Kutan> I'm the administrator in the OS but for some strange reason I can't seem to enter folders because it says only the owner can access that or something
[11:33] <j2daosh> kutan, thats because your not the real admin
[11:33] <j2daosh> only root is the real admin
[11:33] <j2daosh> ur just a sudo admin :P
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> just a wanna-B
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:34] <Kutan> ....You lost me
[11:34] <j2daosh> in order to do that you would havbe to sudo every time, or add yourself to sudo group
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> the first 'user' is a special user in that they can 'sudo' other then that - they are a normal user.
[11:34] <linuxkid2> if you use sudo to admin you are a pseudo admin. :D
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> and normal users normally cant go into other users dirs
[11:34] <Kutan> Yeah but I'm the only user on this computer =\
[11:35] <linuxkid2> yeah right. many programs need user accounts.
[11:35] <enzo> !root > Kutan
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> Kutan,  and your point is?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> where are you trying to go?  :_
[11:36] <Kutan> Hold on...
[11:36] <KaiHanari> hmm what DOES the bot have to say about root?
[11:36] <KaiHanari> !root > KaiHanari
[11:36] <DocTomoe> Hi. I need a ramdisk for cryptographic reasons and therefore I searh a tutorial how to create one. Any suggestions?
[11:36] <Kutan> The folder is xinetd.d
[11:36] <KaiHanari> bleh thats short
[11:36] <j2daosh> what do you need in there?
[11:37] <Kutan> Hell if I know, I was following a tutorial on starting off in Kubuntu
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Kutan,  anything you need to mess with in there.. ya need to sudo.
[11:37] <j2daosh> dont bother with that yet
[11:37] <j2daosh> u need to learn how to sudo and move around folders and stuff first
[11:37] <Kutan> brb I'm gonna get on kubuntu, right now I'm in windows
[11:37] <j2daosh> kutan
[11:37] <Kutan> ?
[11:38] <j2daosh> nevermind... switch and come back
[11:38] <Kutan> k
[11:38] <j2daosh> hey dumb qeustion... i cant use any of my nautilus scripts in kde huh
[11:38] <srdjant> run them in nautilus....
[11:39] <j2daosh> yeah but i dont wanna have to change back to gnome to use them
[11:39] <misieq> you can run nautilius in kde...
[11:39] <draik> whois enzo
[11:39] <j2daosh> ... really?
[11:40] <j2daosh> ok wrong thing
[11:40] <j2daosh> im talking about something else i guess
[11:40] <misieq> i don't know nautilius, but i guess there's no other way
[11:40] <Kutan> Alright
[11:41] <j2daosh> i have a bunch of scripts on my gnome side that i can right click the desktop and do all the different scripts... can i do that in kde?
[11:41] <arepie> hello, im trying to install 3d driver, i've done the update and everything, and done also the part which i should edit myself, but still it does't works..
[11:41] <misieq> errr... in kde-apps there are "service menus" try looking at them
[11:41] <arepie> i notice under section "device" there's -->  Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] "
[11:41] <misieq> that's the only thing i know of similar behaviour
[11:42] <arepie> the identifier name didn't changed.. should i changed this?
[11:42] <hybrid> 0/cl
[11:42] <j2daosh> kde-apps is where?
[11:42] <misieq> kde-apps. is kde-apps.org :)
[11:42] <j2daosh> oh...
[11:42] <j2daosh> well i got the scripts i just need to know the folder to put them in
[11:43] <j2daosh> ?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> heh - been there all day looking at the kde goodies
[11:43] <linuxkid2> hey, what would I use that ZeroConf thingy for?
[11:43] <spenrok> hi does anyone know how I can play mp4 ? I read somewhere about gstreamer-quicktime
[11:43] <misieq> j2daosh: i can't help you further as i just don't know. try googling for kde service manus...
[11:43] <misieq> spenrok: use mplayer
[11:43] <misieq> !mplayer
[11:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:43] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:44] <linuxkid2> hey, what would I use that ZeroConf thingy for?
[11:44] <Kutan> Alright so in order to interact with that one folder, I have to sudo move the file in there? o_O;;
[11:44] <spenrok> thanks misieq and ubotu
[11:45] <misieq> ubotu is a bot ;)
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <linuxkid2> Kutan, or use sudo chown <username> to change ownership
[11:45] <misieq> you can type !somenamehere and it would answer
[11:45] <linuxkid2> if you want permanence
[11:45] <arepie> anyone help me with ATI driver installation please..
[11:45] <linuxkid2> !zeroconf
[11:45] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[11:46] <misieq> !ati
[11:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <linuxkid2> why is zeroconf in the control panel if it's optional?
[11:46] <Nerevar> well
[11:46] <Nerevar> it looks like im screwed
[11:46] <arepie> misieq: i've done with all the thing there.. but still error
[11:46] <misieq> what kind of error?
[11:46] <Nerevar> i just read 21 pages of forum posts and no one can come up with a definitive solution
[11:46] <linuxkid2> I understand why it's optional, but why's it in the controls
[11:47] <misieq> linuxkid2: perhaps thay couldn't make it a module...
[11:47] <linuxkid2> module?
[11:47] <arepie> after update, it still error, so i tried the second step, and still error, so then i edit the file myself, everything has done, and still error..
[11:47] <misieq> the thing you would insert to kcontrol
[11:47] <linuxkid2> kay, so to be controllable they put it in there
[11:48] <linuxkid2> what's it for?
[11:48] <arepie> arepie@Arepie:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:48] <arepie> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[11:48] <spenrok> you can see I haven't been here before misieq...respect to you all the same :)
[11:48] <Nerevar> how many hours do you think it would take my computer shop to get linux on this comp
[11:48] <Nerevar> i think they are 50 or 75 dollars an hour
[11:49] <misieq> arepie: can't help, i use nvidia and it's prblem free :)
[11:49] <draik> Nerevar, why can't you do it yourself?
[11:49] <misieq> zeroconf i some sort of network control protocol... afaik
[11:49] <arepie> np, anyone else..?
[11:49] <Kutan> j2daosh, what were you going to ask me?
[11:50] <Nerevar> i dont know how to do it
[11:50] <draik> Have you tried?
[11:50] <Nerevar> and i have a bachelors in computer science
[11:50] <Nerevar> ive been at this for 10 hours
[11:50] <j2daosh> i dont remember... lol
[11:50] <Nerevar> reading so many logs
[11:50] <Nerevar> forum posts
[11:50] <Nerevar> i am at a loss what to do
[11:50] <draik> where are you getting stuck?
[11:50] <Nerevar> i have downlaoded 6 differnet linux distributions all have the same result
[11:50] <draik> ok....
[11:51] <draik> how about we just stick to Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake
[11:51] <Nerevar> fine by me
[11:51] <draik> what happened when you tried to install?
[11:51] <Nerevar> I burned it 4 times to verify it wasnt my burner
[11:51] <draik> so you have 3 coasters???
[11:51] <Kutan> How do I move a file through the konsole? >_>
[11:51] <Nerevar> It hangs at mounting root file system and then starts spamming like crazy about how "drive seems confused"
[11:52] <draik> Are you dualbooting? Or is it all going on one HDD?
[11:52] <Nerevar> Yes I am dualbooting.. I used ot have mandrake linux and grub on my primary boot drive, but I lost that when that hard drive began to fail, and I mirrored and duplicated the drive to a new one
[11:53] <draik> ok, so what does your HDD have now?
[11:53] <srdjant_slack> Nerevar, get something with different kernel version
[11:53] <Nerevar> so basically what i have is booting off a SATA drive with the typical windows bootloader [whatever they call it]  and an "inactive" mandrake partition
[11:53] <draik> did you partition the drive for Kubuntu yet?
[11:53] <Nerevar> nod i preserved the partitions when i mirrored the drive using acronis trueimage
[11:54] <Nerevar> however the bootloader refused to be mirrored so I had to run fixmbr
[11:54] <Nerevar> thus I can no longer boot into mandrake
[11:54] <draik> well, you need a partition for Kubuntu, unless you're going to overwrite Mandrake
[11:54] <Nerevar> and to make matters even more fun i dunno where mandrake disc 1 is
[11:54] <draik> hmmm
[11:55] <draik> I think you should set up a partition on your winxp for Kubuntu
[11:55] <draik> once you have that going, you can access your Mandrake files
[11:55] <Nerevar> I dont care if i lose mandrake
[11:55] <draik> ok
[11:55] <Nerevar> I dont mind writing over it
[11:55] <draik> so you want to overwrite it?
[11:55] <draik> ok
[11:55] <srdjant_slack> then overwrite it
[11:56] <draik> when you go through the install, select to set up your partition manually and select your mandrake partition as '/'
[11:56] <Nerevar> Id love to
[11:56] <Nerevar> If I got a linux live cd to boot on this computer it would be like a miracle
[11:57] <draik> Get ahold of your Kubuntu CD
[11:57] <draik> go through the install
[11:57] <Nerevar> I cant
[11:57] <draik> ???
[11:57] <draik> why not/
[11:57] <draik> ?
[11:57] <Nerevar> It hangs at mounting root file system
[11:57] <Kutan> Ah sweet okay I moved that file. :D
[11:58] <Nerevar> As does every thing
[11:58] <draik> ok
[11:58] <Nerevar> It is making me violent :x
[11:58] <fiona_> damn
[11:58] <draik> are you using winxp right now?
[11:58] <srdjant_slack> mandrake's root filesystem, Nerevar ?
[11:59] <promaster681> hola
[11:59] <Nerevar> Yeah im on xp
[11:59] <Zamboulie> ok
[11:59] <Zamboulie> i can't get sound in flash movies
[11:59] <arepie> im trying to install 3d for ATI, after following all those step, i still get error.. the error is:-
[11:59] <arepie> arepie@Arepie:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:59] <arepie> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[11:59] <Zamboulie> or google video
[12:00] <Zamboulie> what kind of codec would i need
[12:00] <_lupine> zamboulie: do they work in konqueror?
[12:00] <draik> Nerevar, do you have any apps like PartitionMagic to format your mandrake partition?
[12:00] <Zamboulie> no
[12:00] <Zamboulie> only FF
[12:00] <Nerevar> partition magic... Dont think so...
[12:01] <Nerevar> But it doesnt matter really.. Because..
[12:01] <draik> do you have anything to format that partition?
[12:01] <Nerevar> I can't even boot into a _live installation_
[12:01] <draik> or rather re-format
[12:01] <Nerevar> Let alone actually install it
[12:01] <srdjant_slack> Nerevar, even a new live cd/
[12:01] <Nerevar> Yes
[12:01] <srdjant_slack> knoppix latest?
[12:01] <draik> simple question, Is your BIOS set up for CD Booting?
[12:02] <Nerevar> I have tried: pclinuxos. kubuntu. knoppix. madriva. [something else i forgot] 
[12:02] <draik> knoppix 5.0.1 is sweet... it can write to NTFS
[12:02] <Nerevar> I may be a total noob at this, but my guess is, there is a bug in the kernel or something that hates my SATA drive and or computer
[12:02] <srdjant_slack> Nerevar, have you tried the advanced boot options on those live cds? maybe you need to select a sata driver.
[12:02] <Nerevar> Since apparently... They all use the same kernel... And I installed mandrake 9.2 and never had this prob
[12:03] <Nerevar> Nod, I tried like noapci nolapci or something...
[12:03] <srdjant_slack> 9.2 is ancient... probaly didn't even have sata support
[12:04] <draik> I'm not too sure about what is going on with your desktop, but I think there's an issue with your hdd
[12:04] <Nerevar> Maybe
[12:04] <draik> Kubuntu 6.06 should have worked for your SATA HDD
[12:04] <Nerevar> I was getting tired of this computer anyways
[12:05] <Nerevar> I just feel really dumb now
[12:05] <Nerevar> I must have read 300 pages of forum posts
[12:05] <draik> don't let the desktop intimidate you
[12:05] <srdjant_slack> might be borked bits, just like in hak5 epsode
[12:07] <Nerevar> Maybe the next time it happens ill write down exactly what it does
[12:07] <Nerevar> But I was up until 4 twinking with it
[12:07] <draik> That would be helpful for us to diagnose your issue
[12:08] <tobias_> how do i find out how much space is left on my hd?
[12:08] <tobias_> somekind of ls /something?