[12:10] <LaserJock> heh, at this point if edgy boots, I have all my partitions, and X works I'm happy ;-)
[12:10] <buzzen> LaserJock: I had a look already for some bugs about fonts. Couldnt find one specific to Edgy. Only old dapper ones.
[12:12] <Riddell> buzzen: there is a problem, I don't know if it's kde's fault of fontconfig but it's on my list of things to look at
[12:12] <buzzen> Riddell: ok thanks. that's good  (that there is a problem.) . I was worried this was the new look! :)
[12:18] <n8k99> imbrandon: hi
[12:39] <n8k99> imbrandon_: hey
[03:57] <Hobbsee> morning all
[04:09] <rouzic> Hii :D
[04:09] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: would you be on ubuntu-devel mailing list, btw?
[04:09] <rouzic> Hoobsee: 04:09 am xD
[04:09] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:09] <Hobbsee> @time sydney
[04:09] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: August 27 2006, 12:09:58
[04:10] <rouzic> wow :p
[04:11] <Hobbsee> and i have to hand in my computer assignment by 10am tomorrow
[04:11] <Hobbsee> and i have to go to work today :(
[04:11] <rouzic> :(
[04:13] <LaserJock> ah yes, homework
[04:14] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: are you doing a double major?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: nope
[04:15] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: bachelor of technology in optoelectronics, which includes first year C++
[04:15] <LaserJock> hmm, seems like a lot of CS for optoelectronics
[04:16] <LaserJock> I'll make it through a PhD in Physical Chemistry without ever taking a CS class
[04:18] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:18] <crimsun> that's impressive, considering CS students here have to take one year of chem.
[04:18] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:18] <LaserJock> the feeling isn't mutual apparently
[04:19] <LaserJock> I never did any CS as an undergrad either
[04:19] <crimsun> I'm of the opinion that any science needs to take one year of intro programming
[04:19] <LaserJock> yes, I totally agree
[04:19] <LaserJock> I tried to get my advisor to let me take a Fortran class
[04:19] <LaserJock> but no luck
[04:21] <LaserJock> I would have liked to do CS too, but I was already doing 2 majors
[04:22] <LaserJock> unfortunately right now I see many chemistry going away from programming and just using proprietary software
[04:22] <LaserJock> s/chemistry/chemists/
[04:23] <crimsun> proprietary or not, it's still a requisite skill.
[04:23] <LaserJock> I think I'm 1 of maybe 3-5 grad student in a deparment of 60 that can program really at all
[04:25] <LaserJock> a number of the profs (especially < 40 years old) can program but then don't see it as a needed skill anymore
[04:27] <crimsun> that's akin to saying technical writing & calculus aren't requisite skills in the natural sciences.
[04:28] <LaserJock> well, I have a hard time making that argument in chemistry
[04:28] <LaserJock> it's pretty standard in physics
[04:28] <nixternal> you have a hard time making an argument ;)
[04:29] <LaserJock> but chemistry profs look at the expense of paying a grad student to program or get research done
[04:29] <LaserJock> and most of the time they aren't willing to pay for their students to program
[04:29] <LaserJock> the time expenditure is too much
[04:29] <crimsun> that's because they're raised [in the system]  to look at things like this from a narrow perspective.
[04:30] <crimsun> it's what happens when your university doesn't _force_ you to consider breadth alongside depth
[04:31] <Hobbsee> damn @ bug 57636
[04:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57636 in amarok "amarok_libvisual helper executable missing from Amarok package" [Low,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57636
[04:31] <LaserJock> sure, all that matters is that I pump out papers as fast as I can
[04:32] <LaserJock> I'm already starting my 5th year and I still don't have a paper
[04:32] <crimsun> not just, but you need to pull in massive amounts of funding AND maintain a credible skillset evaluation so that your dept's curriculum remains top-notch
[04:32] <LaserJock> at this point it is very hard for me to tell my boss "let me take a month and fix our data aqcuisition program"
[04:33] <crimsun> get an interested (aka starving) CS student to do it.
[04:33] <LaserJock> or pay the $1000 to buy the program
[04:35] <LaserJock> the problem is that most profs see FLOSS as just a monetary thing
[04:36] <LaserJock> and since they just pass the money on to the funding agency it doesn't bother them
[04:39] <LaserJock> ok, I'll try here
[04:39] <LaserJock> in KDE my laptop is randomly hibernating
[04:40] <LaserJock> it is plugged in and at ~100% power
[04:40] <LaserJock> anybody heard of that?
[04:43] <rouzic_ausente> Good Bye
[07:51] <imbrandon_> 
[07:51] <lnxkde> is aiglx nvidia-glx and cgwd working on edgy?
[07:51] <imbrandon> not yet
[07:52] <LaserJock> hehe
[07:52] <lnxkde> :( well my dapper runs pefectly with XGl/cgwd with ati
[07:52] <lnxkde> but with my nvidia laptop it does not work... It gives me some distortion on images.
[08:23] <nixternal> imbrandon: that wallpaper is staying for the time be, and will be part of the Edgy Knot 2 release
[08:24] <serzholino> hi. any plans for amarok 1.4.2 for dapper?
[08:25] <nixternal> im sure it will get ported over eventually
[08:35] <imbrandon> yes it will, dont make me bust out logs lol
[08:37] <nixternal> haha
[08:37] <nixternal> actually, i can log your to Rid''dell and me talkin' about it
[08:37] <nixternal> he said he doesn't like it either, but it will be there for knot 2
[08:37] <nixternal> wow, i can type ;)
[11:59] <kwwii> moin
[12:07] <imbrandon> heya kwwii
[12:07] <imbrandon> back home ?
[12:07] <imbrandon> Riddell: poke 
[12:08] <imbrandon> rouzic: hello ( i'm gussing thats a greeting )
[12:11] <imbrandon> so whats new today kwwii heh
[12:12] <imbrandon> kwwii: i'm just gonna send Riddell those raw images, i cant figure out for the life of me how to make a uu debdiff of them
[12:12] <imbrandon> ( for konq )
[12:33] <kwwii> imbrandon: cool, I am sure we can figure it out
[12:35] <kwwii> now I am reading my post, paying bills, etc.
[12:37] <Hobbsee> hey kwwii :)
[12:38] <imbrandon> hrm actualy Hobbsee i cant find that one you attached me to
[12:38] <imbrandon> what bug # was it ?
[12:38] <imbrandon> i know the problem and have it fixed localy but i cant find the damn bug LOL
[12:39] <kwwii> howdy Hobbsee
[12:39] <Hobbsee> imbrandon https://launchpad.net/bugs/57636
[12:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57636 in amarok "amarok_libvisual helper executable missing from Amarok package" [Low,Confirmed]  
[12:39] <imbrandon> ah kk , got it, thanks
[12:51] <imbrandon> wow this is a can of worms, good thing is most of these are easy to fix and one fix closes 2 or 3 bugs 
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:11] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:11] <imbrandon> heya freeflying
[01:12] <imbrandon> freeflying: i compiled all my goodies with ppc yesterday so you would be happy 
[01:14] <freeflying> imbrandon: great  :)
[01:14] <freeflying> imbrandon: I'll have a look later  :)
[01:14] <imbrandon> 
[01:16] <freeflying> imbrandon: can you use two fingers scrolling on ibook
[01:16] <imbrandon> i have seen it done but i have never setup the driver to do so
[01:16] <imbrandon> suposidly you can use sematics to do it
[01:16] <freeflying> semastics?
[01:17] <imbrandon> yea 
[01:17] <imbrandon> the touchpad driver thing
[01:17] <freeflying> I found some patch for synaptics
[01:17] <freeflying> but it may not be applied for the latest synaptics
[01:18] <imbrandon> yea sho said it was just some settings in xorg.conf but i never took the time to try it. and you could have the liek top right corner be right click etc
[01:18] <imbrandon> and scroll down the right side of the pad and all kinda stuff, but i never set it up myself
[01:19] <freeflying> imbrandon: any clues for setup?
[01:19] <imbrandon> honestly no idea, you might ask sho_ in #konversation , he told me about it
[01:19] <imbrandon> but he is sleeping right now
[01:20] <imbrandon> he said he has it working on gentoo and kubuntu both
[01:20] <imbrandon> last i talked to him
[01:20] <imbrandon> ohh actualy he is alive
[01:20] <imbrandon> i just looked
[01:20] <imbrandon> go poke him 
[01:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: sho_ asked why the daily konvi builds stopped, btw
[01:20] <imbrandon> they havent, look at the date
[01:22] <imbrandon> later kwwii
[01:22] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: see http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/dapper/konversation-nightly/  <--- look at the dates 
[01:22] <imbrandon> it hasent run yet today but its running and working 
[01:22] <imbrandon> and edgy too
[01:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: that's what i thought...
[01:26] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: wow they are going to town on him
[01:26] <imbrandon> ( and they are right somewhat )
[01:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: only somewhat.  
[01:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: think of the universe uploaders, of which i'm the owner - they need to do what we ask for, or we wont do what they want
[01:28] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: the same happens with the new sync request system, i expect
[01:44] <imbrandon> crimsun: you alive ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: likely at work - he's set to away
[01:48] <imbrandon> yup yup no biggie i just dident wanna go the LP route
[01:48] <imbrandon> i'll find someone semi soon 
[01:49] <imbrandon> wow madreva questions on the kubunutu-users list, they must like our community but hate out distro LOL , just teasin
[01:49] <imbrandon> iot does amaze me though
[01:51] <imbrandon> heh its real short email, since its dead in here i'll paste it 
[01:51] <imbrandon> one sec
[01:51] <imbrandon> lol
[01:52] <imbrandon> I just installed Mandriva One and noticed that there wasn't any modem 
[01:52] <imbrandon> activity  icon in the kicker panel at the bottom of the screen.  In a 
[01:52] <imbrandon> earlier versions of Mandriva I somehow installed a icon that mimicked 
[01:52] <imbrandon> the  send and receive  lights  on my external modem.
[01:52] <imbrandon>   Any suggestions on how to regain  or install this feature?
[01:52] <imbrandon> Owen
[01:52] <imbrandon> ^^
[01:52] <Hobbsee> oh dear...
[01:52] <imbrandon> honestly i dont even know the answer or i would politely tell him AND inform him its a kubuntu list 
[01:54] <imbrandon> i havent used a dialup modem since early 98 sometime
[01:54] <imbrandon> heh
[01:54] <imbrandon> thats when we first got cable here 
[01:55] <imbrandon> although tleds is nice for using the numlock light and capslock light on your keyboard for tx/rx of the nic
[01:56] <imbrandon> i havent tried it on ubuntu but on suse it rocked
[01:56] <imbrandon> err maybe caps/scroll lock but still , it was cool
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Failed to fetch http://imbrandon.com/packages/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  amarok/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[01:59] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ^
[02:00] <imbrandon> you have "amarok" instead of "all" in your sources.list ( but amarok for edgy is uploaded to main already )
[02:00] <Hobbsee> ah crud, i forgot to take it out.
[02:00] <Hobbsee> and i'm not using "all"
[02:01] <imbrandon> heh all is only konvo
[02:01] <imbrandon> 
[02:01] <imbrandon> you can use konversation-nightly and extras ( mugshot ) for edgy
[02:01] <imbrandon> or all
[02:01] <Hobbsee> + whatever random stuff you do in future, and then i try to debug, and wonder why it works strangely
[02:02] <imbrandon> hahaha i only put the random stuff in "extra" and its not included in all
[02:02] <imbrandon> "all" is only official build stuff  
[02:02] <imbrandon> but as you wish 
[02:02] <imbrandon> you realy only want konversation-nightly
[02:03] <Hobbsee> ah right
[02:03] <Hobbsee> true that
[02:03] <imbrandon> everything else is for dapper mainly ( amarok , kopete , konversation , mugshot , etc etc etc )
[02:03] <imbrandon> stuff thats not in dapper , then when edgy releases i'll make a good full edgy section
[02:03] <imbrandon> but for not might as well upload it to the archive 
[02:04] <imbrandon> s/not/now
[02:04] <Hobbsee> well, yeah, exactly
[02:05] <imbrandon> btw i did backport kopete 0.12.2 to dapper and put it up, just havent announced it to the world yet heh
[02:05] <imbrandon> i386 ppc and amd64
[02:05] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[02:05] <Hobbsee> i requested a backport for that, btw
[02:05] <imbrandon> yea this is in the meantime
[02:05] <imbrandon> deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper kopete
[02:05] <imbrandon> just for that
[02:06] <imbrandon> i'll make a blog post later about it
[02:06] <imbrandon> telling how to get the gpg key etc
[02:06] <imbrandon> anyhow
[02:48] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ping?
[02:48] <imbrandon> pong
[02:48] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: where's your fix for amarok for uploading?  do you have a debdiff?
[02:48] <imbrandon> ye
[02:49] <imbrandon> got me a sponsor? one sec brb
[02:50] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yep
[02:50] <Hobbsee> well, i want to check if it's sane too
[02:50] <imbrandon> hahahahahaha its sane and tested on my machine that it works, uploading now , whos the uploader ?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: zul
[02:51] <imbrandon> http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/temp/amarok.debdiff   
[02:52] <imbrandon> kk thank Hobbsee
[02:52] <Hobbsee> +  * Added libvisual-0.4-0 to Recomends ( visualsation support ) 
[02:53] <imbrandon> yes
[02:53] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: isnt that picked up by ${shlibs:Depends} anyway?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> as a dependancy?
[02:53] <imbrandon> no becouse its not a dep
[02:53] <imbrandon> amarok dosent NEED it
[02:53] <Hobbsee> well, yeah
[02:53] <Hobbsee> point
[02:54] <imbrandon> ahh Riddell 
[02:54] <imbrandon> hehe
[02:54] <Lure> Riddell: welcome back!
[02:55] <imbrandon> welcome back
[02:55] <toma> Riddell: you are in the netherlands?
[02:55] <Lure> toma: ;-)
[02:55] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell!
[02:55] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: did zul do that ? if not Riddell can i bet heheh
[02:55] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: he's uploading it after breakfast.  it looks sane, except for the typo.
[02:56] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: i know it looked sane heheh thanks for the +1 though , good idea bbiab food
[02:57] <imbrandon> Riddell: i fixed the libvisual ( that complained about it even if you had libvis installed ) bug if you wanna 
[02:57] <imbrandon> poke it ( but zul said he would upload after breakfast i guess )
[02:59] <Riddell> imbrandon: what was up?
[02:59] <imbrandon> the amarok_libvisual helper was being built but not installed
[03:00] <Riddell> ah hah, and does shlibs then add libvisual as a dep once that's included?
[03:00] <imbrandon> you know i dident look ..... /me looks now
[03:00] <imbrandon>  debian/tmp/usr/bin/amarokcollectionscanner	/usr/lib/amarok
[03:00] <imbrandon> +debian/tmp/usr/bin/amarok_libvisual     /usr/lib/amarok
[03:01] <imbrandon> ^^ the simple change
[03:02] <imbrandon> Riddell: yup looks like it
[03:02] <imbrandon> woot
[03:02] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:/var/cache/pbuilder/edgy/result$ apt-cache show amarok|grep libvisual
[03:02] <imbrandon> Depends: amarok-xine, ruby, python-qt3, kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libaudio2, libc6 (>= 2.4-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-11ubuntu1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgpod0, libice6, libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libifp4, libjpeg62, libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.19-1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libpq4 (>= 8.1.4), libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6),
[03:02] <imbrandon> libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libsm6, libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-11ubuntu1), libtag1c2a (>= 1.4), libtunepimp3 (>= 0.4.2), libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12), libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0), libx11-6, libxcursor1 (>> 1.1.2), libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
[03:02] <imbrandon> ^^ piked it up
[03:02] <imbrandon> picked*
[03:05] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i'm sure that's what i asked you before....
[03:06] <imbrandon> it is but i was thinking of a convo yesterday
[03:06] <imbrandon> either way its all go for when we more to "recomends" that one will be ready heh
[03:06] <imbrandon> my mistake though 
[03:07] <imbrandon> mmmm fruity pebbles
[03:07] <imbrandon> s/go/good/g s/more/move/g
[03:08] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:09] <imbrandon> ugh, now i need to fix / rebuild the dapper version too huh ? lol
[03:11] <Hobbsee> of course :)
[03:11] <imbrandon> heh already started on all 3 machines 
[03:43] <imbrandon> heh looks like konversation is skipping 0.20 .21 .22 etc etc etc streight to 1.0 
[03:43] <imbrandon> [08:40]  <Sho_> imbrandon: Besides, it's going to be 1.0 
[03:44] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: true that.  and 2.0 for KDE4
[03:44] <imbrandon> yup
[04:10] <imbrandon> lol
[04:11] <Hobbsee> right, it's stopped sucking.
[04:11] <Hobbsee> it even makes sense now
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hey bd
[04:15] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: 
[04:15] <Hobbsee> gah.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hey bddebian 
[04:15] <bddebian> Morning
[04:15] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[04:16] <imbrandon> heh
[04:16] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[04:17] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[04:34] <hobbsee> i have one word to describe this
[04:40] <Hobbsee> maybe one phrase
[04:41] <imbrandon_> describe what ?
[04:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: it's not a good idea to remove /tmp - now i cant login to kde
[04:42] <Hobbsee> which is really not cool, as i have an assignment due tomorrow
[04:42] <imbrandon_> heh , yea you and removing dir's
[04:42] <imbrandon_> hyst recreate it
[04:42] <imbrandon_> just too
[04:43] <fdoving> Hobbsee: did you remove all of /tmp? 
[04:43] <Prezu> Could someone please review the Kadu package in REVU? :) (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2968)
[04:43] <fdoving> re-make it, '/etc/init.d/xorg-common restart' and try again? 
[04:43] <Hobbsee> fdoving: yes
[04:44] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[04:44] <Prezu> I need a second advocation.
[04:45] <Riddell> just as hobbsee quits
[04:49] <fdoving> forgot to tell her to chmod /tmp to 777.. but let's hope she figures that out herself.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> woot....
[04:50] <fdoving> Hobbsee: did it work? did you chmod /tmp to 777? 
[04:52] <Hobbsee> it does when i chmod it, yes :)
[04:52] <fdoving> :)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> hey!!!!
[04:54] <Hobbsee> twitch twitch
[04:54] <Hobbsee> mega ouch.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> FUCK!!!
[04:56] <Hobbsee> i never backed up properly either!!!
[05:04] <fdoving> heh.. i just spendt 10 hours re-creating a pig-feeding control server at a curstomers farm. I can't belive anyone would trust windows xp to feed their animals. Having backups would be nice. Now i have partimage images of his working setup. Then nexttime i'll maybe use 1 hour to restore it. I love partimage.
[05:04] <Hobbsee> hey cool, there's a backup sitting in my trash.
[05:04] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:04] <fdoving> lucky you :)
[05:05] <Hobbsee> fdoving: i removed a whole heap of crucial files a few weeks ago during the last meeting.  you would think i'd learned by now, wouldtn you...
[05:05] <fdoving> rdiff-backup and partimage. both rocks.
[05:06] <fdoving> backupninja is also cool.
[05:07] <rouzic> Thanks imbrandon_
[05:07] <rouzic> amarok 1.4.2 :)
[05:17] <Hobbsee> oh drat, i still have another section of the assignmetn to write
[05:21] <imbrandon_> rouzic: your welcome
[05:21] <imbrandon_> ahh finaly all 3 arches done compiling and uploaded
[05:21] <imbrandon_> Riddell: ping
[05:22] <imbrandon_> Hobbsee: is zul back from breakfast ?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: i think so
[05:22] <imbrandon_>  /win 7
[05:22] <imbrandon_> doh
[05:23] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: why irssi?
[05:24] <imbrandon_> i'm on my lappy
[05:24] <imbrandon_> on the lappy i just ssh into the server so i can reboot/change wm etc
[05:24] <imbrandon_> ( for irssi )
[05:24] <Hobbsee> ahh...
[05:24] <Hobbsee> nice
[05:24] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee 
[05:27] <Riddell> who?
[05:27] <imbrandon_> zul 
[05:27] <Hobbsee> zul
[05:27] <Hobbsee> heya Riddell :)
[05:28] <Riddell> ok
[05:28] <Hobbsee> Riddell: excuse my swearing and cursing earlier :P
[05:28] <Riddell> imbrandon_: pong
[05:28] <imbrandon_> hehe unless you wanna upload the amarok.debdiff then i'll pm him to not worry about it
[05:28] <imbrandon_> heh
[05:28] <Riddell> sure
[05:28] <Riddell> I can
[05:29] <grayghost> is KSql available for Kubuntu  ?
[05:29] <imbrandon_> i just got done recompileing all the dapper versions too
[05:29] <imbrandon_> and uploaded those
[05:29] <imbrandon_> Riddell: one sec lemme grab the diff url
[05:30] <imbrandon_> Riddell: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/temp/amarok.debdiff
[05:30] <Hobbsee> !search ksql
[05:30] <Hobbsee> !find ksql
[05:31] <ubotu> Package/file ksql does not exist in dapper
[05:31] <Hobbsee> grayghost: doesnt look like it
[05:31] <grayghost> thank you then I will try to compile :-[
[05:32] <Riddell> grayghost: i ksql a new programme?  it sounds old to me, you could look at datakiosk or kexi
[05:33] <grayghost> I don't know datakiosk of kexi
[05:35] <grayghost> If I get it working should I post the info somewhere? 
[05:39] <grayghost> I found datakiosk   it look the same as ksql  thanks 
[05:46] <Prezu> Could someone please review the Kadu package in REVU? It need one more advocate. It's really popular instant messenger in Poland and many Debian and Ubuntu users use my external repository (on upstream's website - http://kadu.net). 
[06:07] <Riddell> "For real, I and many many of my friends are impressed whit that project." first kubuntu fanmail from Ali G
[06:08] <bddebian> :-)
[06:09] <nixternal> Ali G!!!
[06:09] <exobuzz> borat movie is out soon
[06:10] <exobuzz> i think his borat character is much funnier than ali g
[06:10] <nixternal> ali g kills me though..i miss the show
[06:10] <exobuzz> Prezu: kadu is an excellent program. how do i advocate it ?
[06:10] <exobuzz> Prezu: or it needs a developer ?
[06:10] <bddebian> exobuzz: Are you an MOTU?
[06:10] <exobuzz> im just a l(user) :)
[06:11] <bddebian> Ah.  YOu can review it on revu.tauware.de but unfortunately you couldn't advocate.
[06:11] <exobuzz> oh
[06:12] <exobuzz> gadsugadu is popular in the uk too, because the uk is popular for Poles! :-)
[06:14] <ryanakca> Lure: ping
[06:14] <Lure> ryanakca: pong
[06:14] <ryanakca> Lure: were you using eqonomize?
[06:14] <Lure> ryanakca: yes
[06:15] <Lure> ryanakca: I checked your package and it looks ok to me
[06:15] <ryanakca> Lure: ok... fixed some stuff in the packaging... so..  you might want to upgrade with the source, or wait untill .bddebian puts it up on the repos today :)
[06:16] <Lure> ryanakca: on revu? will check...
[06:16] <Lure> ryanakca: and thank you for packaging it...
[06:17] <ryanakca> Lure: yep, source in on revu, and it'll be on repos soon (as soon as kadu is done building), np... first attempt at cdbs... debhelper is evil...
[06:17] <ryanakca> Lure: it's on the repos :)
[06:19] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: i've found more evil things :P
[06:19] <ryanakca> lol
[06:20] <bddebian> hehe
[06:21] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:23] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: *no one* takes my whip and long pointy stick.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: problem solved, really
[06:24] <Hobbsee> psst.  i dont really have a whip, you know
[06:24] <ryanakca> oh... ok...
[06:24] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:25] <Hobbsee> no human does either
[06:25] <Lure> it looks like strigi failed to build :-( https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/238872
[06:25] <ryanakca> drats... nevermind... I take that back...
[06:25] <ryanakca> you typed faster :P
[06:25] <Riddell> Lure: I've requested a sync with a newer version from debian which fixes it
[06:25] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: if you do that, then i'll give you lots of work to do, and wont review your stuff :P
[06:25] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: yes, i type fast :P
[06:26] <Hobbsee> i've learned
[06:26] <Lure> Riddell: good - looking forward to try it (I was overly excited by beagle, but then it become a memory/cpu hog)
[06:26] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: have you ever reviewed my stuff?
[06:26] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: not sure
[06:26] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: I'm bored, what can I do?
[06:26] <ryanakca> lol
[06:26] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: if it's all through NEW, then likely not
[06:26] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: fix bugs in kdebase.
[06:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:26] <Hobbsee> is it in c?
[06:27] <Hobbsee> i thought most of kde was in c++
[06:27] <ryanakca> oh...
[06:27] <ryanakca> hmm... isn't cpp and extension of c?
[06:27] <ryanakca> or is it a completly different language?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> havent written any o fit though
[06:28] <Lure> Riddell: what are kwwi's plans regarding logout dialog? I was thinking if suspend/hibernate integration would make sense - like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowersave#head-ad7d472db3598a4e26e2854d975e69be09f94cb6
[06:28] <Hobbsee> it's an extension, im' told
[06:29] <ryanakca> I'm at the point just past "Goodbye cruel world" (C version of Hello World, as if the world is sitting there watching the programmer type)...
[06:29] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:30] <Riddell> Lure: nice artwork on logout would be nice but it's not easy to change so kwwii won't do it
[06:30] <Lure> Riddell: so adding two buttons to logout would be fine?
[06:32] <Riddell> sure
[06:32] <Riddell> so long as they were only enabled on machines with power management
[06:33] <Lure> Riddell: exaclty - I suspect it would be best to ask kpm what machine support over dcop
[06:34] <Lure> Riddell: if kpm is not there, we would not show anything
[06:35] <Lure> Riddell: that way I do not complile HAL/dbus support into kdebase
[06:40] <Riddell> hal is already needed by kdebase
[06:40] <Riddell> but whichever is easiest
[09:21] <rouzic> Hi all
[09:21] <Riddell> hi rouzic 
[09:22] <rouzic> There is some program to optimize kubuntu?
[09:22] <Riddell> in which way?
[09:22] <rouzic> To eliminate the logs, unnecessary files
[09:22] <Riddell> rm?
[09:22] <rouzic> But automatic?
[09:23] <Riddell> logs are handled by logrotate
[09:26] <rouzic> In Mac OS X knew a program that optimizes the whole system and it you eliminates unnecessary files, probably in Linux it is not necessary to have a program like that, but if it exists I would like to know which is:)
[09:27] <Riddell> "optimise" is somewhat vauge
[09:27] <rouzic> vauge?
[09:28] <Riddell> it could mean many things
[09:32] <rouzic> oks
[09:35] <fdoving> nite all.
[10:02] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[10:03] <Riddell> hi Mez 
[10:05] <Mez> Riddell: wanna send me the stuff for the new theme and I'll shove it into bzr or something
[10:05] <bddebian> HI MEZ! ;-P
[10:05] <Riddell> Mez: I gave you the files, that's all I have
[10:05] <Mez> oh, you only have the 2 things ?
[10:06] <Mez> fair enough.. can you send me the URL's again
[10:07] <Riddell> 19:07 < Riddell> Mez: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/o2singlebg.png http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/o2doublebg.png
[10:16] <seaLne> Mez: ubuntu-backports is emailed about backport bugs but "Post by non-member to a members-only list" if you comment on a bug
[10:17] <Mez> seaLne, I thought I'd fixed that - grr
[10:17] <seaLne> well that was friday night, when did you fix it?
[10:17] <Mez> like - 4 months ago
[10:18] <Mez> f00k
[10:18] <Mez> 1700 pending moderator requests
[10:18] <seaLne> and no one bothered to mention it? weird
[10:19] <Mez> nope
[10:21] <Mez> seaLne, weird... the spam filter is set up to accept them automatically... but it doesnt seem like it wants to
[10:22] <Mez> Subject: [REQUEST] .+
[10:22] <Mez> X-Generated-By: Launchpad (canonical.com)
[10:22] <Mez> X-Launchpad-Bug:.+
[10:22] <Mez> Sender: bounces@canonical.com
[10:22] <Mez> is all set to accept
[10:22] <seaLne> Subject: [Bug 57602]  Re: k3b 0.12.17-1ubuntu1
[10:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57602 in dapper-backports "k3b 0.12.17-1ubuntu1" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57602
[10:23] <toma> rsibreak backported? missed that one
[12:03] <crimsun> imbrandon_: pong
[12:09] <Riddell> hmm, do I want _Sime to be an e.v. member