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draikNerevar, once you get this issue resolved and get it up and running.. you can add it to your resume! BA in CS and Kubuntu System Analyst!12:09
draiktobias_, df -h12:09
tobias_thanx!12:10
draiknp12:10
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draikwell, I'm off... Nerevar, good luck with your desktop... and I do suggest you get ahold of something to re-format that mandrake partition for the installation of Kubuntu12:11
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reddwolfhello can some one help me get my wireless connection working12:13
lupine_85which chipset?12:14
RawSewagehttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?lnk=gst&q=&rnum=32#b813d52cbc5a044b12:14
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RawSewageTHE FAMOUS POST THAT STARTED IT ALL:  15 years ago    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?lnk=gst&q=&rnum=32#b813d52cbc5a044b12:15
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lupine_85nostalgia++;12:16
RawSewageyeah12:16
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slow-motionn812:17
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Zamboulieyo sup FOOS12:18
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reddwolfhello can some one help me get my wireless connection working12:19
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felix___Hallo leute12:20
felix___i've got a stupid question12:21
felix___im new to linux and happy i made my WPA-PSK secured network to run12:21
lupine_85har! www.minix3.org12:21
felix___but now, i want to compile xmoto12:22
srdjant_slackxmoto is awesome12:22
felix___yes12:22
felix___do u know how to install under linux?12:22
srdjant_slacki just compiled it12:22
RawSewagelupine_85, what12:22
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lupine_85minix 3 :)12:22
RawSewageIve never used Minix12:23
swamptooi am tryin got install kubuntu....i loaded the cd but the display is like 640x480...whjat file to i edit to add 1024x768 ?12:23
lupine_85felix___: it's in the repos12:23
lupine_85!xmoto12:23
ubotuxmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.10-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 346 kB, installed size 884 kB12:23
RawSewageyou want to edit the live cd?12:23
swamptoono i want my display to be 1024x76812:23
RawSewagedid you install it12:23
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swamptoonot yet the screen is very small12:23
lupine_85ctrl+alt+KP+ maybe?12:24
felix___hen I want to make "make" in the directory, it says "no targets told, and no target control-file found. End"12:24
RawSewageinstall it, then change it12:24
lupine_85assuming the livecd supports your graphics card at that resolution (should do)12:24
swamptoonot sure if i can....i cant chnage the options cause they are off teh screen12:24
felix___Ive got real dapper dake12:24
felix___no live cd but12:24
felix___but12:24
felix___hen I want to make "make" in the directory, it says "no targets told, and no target control-file found. End"12:24
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RawSewagefelix___, dont use make12:24
__mikemfelix what do you mean "real" dapper drake12:24
lupine_85just "sudo apt-get install xmoto"12:24
lupine_85or install in adept12:25
felix___i installed it an an extra partieion12:25
felix___no12:25
lupine_85much saner12:25
felix___i need to compile first ;)12:25
RawSewagetheres a better way than make12:25
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lupine_85no. You don't12:25
felix___o course? how not?12:25
lupine_85because it's in the repositories12:25
lupine_85!xmoto > felix___12:25
felix___hm12:26
felix___is it?12:26
felix___no12:26
felix___how can i compile via make12:27
__mikemyou have to have make installed first of all12:27
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__mikembefore doing anything try sudo apt-get build-essential12:27
KutanThat's odd... I just ran x-moto.. it loaded for about 20-25 seconds and then just disappeared =\12:28
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KutanSo what's so great about this game anyway if you don't mind me asking? o_o;;12:28
lupine_85felix___ cat README or cat INSTALL if you're determined to roll your own12:28
lupine_85it's fun :)12:28
lupine_852D motocross12:28
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Kutan._. It's not running... that's strange.12:29
octanhi all12:29
octananyone using kxdocker?12:29
lupine_85last time I played it, I was on SusE12:29
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octanhmm12:30
octanhow do i remove crap from the panerl? i tryed rightclick on it then remove now. but it comes back after a restart.12:30
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apallo27lilo is giving me problems12:31
octanim trying to remove like battery senor. i dont need that stuff. this box != lappy12:31
octanapallo27, move to grub12:31
octan:)12:31
apallo27grub gave me even bigger problems12:31
octanno it shouldent,, you just needto set it up properly12:32
srdjant_slacklilo is the greatest12:32
octangrub is more powerfull bootloader then lilo..12:32
octan'lilo suxz compared..12:32
srdjant_slacknope12:32
apallo27kubuntu set it up for me (this is a fresh install)12:32
apallo27and came back with "can't find operating system" or something like that12:33
srdjant_slackoctan, maybe you need to let kde save settings. try removing, then do a logout, then login.12:33
apallo27i'm dualbooting xp + kubuntu12:33
octansrdjant_slack, yes it does. you cant do shit if something get screwed up and you got lilo..12:33
octanapallo27, so do i12:34
srdjant_slackoctan, yes you can. just boot it and you can type in your rescue stuff...12:34
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lupine_85syslinuz r0x0rz12:34
lupine_85;)12:34
lupine_85syslinux, rather12:34
apallo27hmmm12:34
apallo27how do i config grub now that lilo's already installed?12:35
srdjant_slackat least my bootloader is not a pile of vegtables and steak ;p12:35
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lupine_85just install grub, edit the menu.lst file, and run grub-install12:36
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lupine_85make sure you've got a failsafe though12:36
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srdjant_slackwhat is a failsafe?12:36
lupine_85a plan in case it goes small-bit-that-eats-grubs-up12:37
lupine_85s/bit/bird12:37
lupine_85e.g. a live CD on standby12:37
apallo27grub's already installed...12:37
lupine_85then skip step 112:38
srdjant_slackwhy not just use a live cd if you need to?12:38
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lupine_85'failsafe' is a superset of 'live cd'12:38
SonicChaoThis channel should be +t...12:38
octansrdjant_slack, GRUB has a more powerful, interactive command line interface. LILO, on the other hand, only allows one command with arguments. thats just 1 thing..12:38
apallo27grub-install didn't work...12:38
lupine_85would also include a bootloader on a floppy disc that loads up the 'real' linux, on your hd, for instance12:38
srdjant_slackbut grub can't do raid stuff i heard and is crap name12:38
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lupine_85did you do step 2?12:39
octanapallo27 check and see if there is a /boot/grub/menu,1st file?12:39
lupine_85(edit /boot/grub/menu.lst)12:39
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tobias__wow12:39
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octanhi12:39
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tobias__sorry12:39
lupine_85hmm12:39
lupine_85not good ;)12:39
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apallo27no such file or folder...12:40
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:lupine_85] : "Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)".
reddwolfcan someone help me set up my wireless internet ( i'm currently running on a regular line) but would like to have it setup for wireless12:40
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:tobias__] : Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)
lupine_85then you'll need to create one. Google for menu.lst to get a template12:40
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srdjant_slacklupine_85, did you have the topic saved in a text file or something?12:40
lupine_85logfiles12:40
srdjant_slackahh :)12:40
lupine_85(not really, I'm a fast typer and have a photographic memory ;) )12:41
tobias__the topic is there when we join12:41
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tobias__copy paste12:41
tobias__:)12:41
srdjant_slackyes but it's gone off my scrollback, and i think lupine_85's been here longer than i have12:41
lupine_85Joined at 22:5612:42
reddwolfcan someone help me set up my wireless internet ( i'm currently running on a regular line) but would like to have it setup for wireless. could someone help me please12:42
lupine_85accidentally hit the power button at ~22:4012:42
lupine_85what chipset?12:42
reddwolfwhat do you mean12:42
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reddwolfbelkin 54 g wireless card12:43
lupine_85as in, what wireless card is it?12:43
Hawkwind!wireless12:43
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:43
lupine_85USB? PCI?12:43
HawkwindFollow that guide there12:43
reddwolfpci12:43
lupine_85output of lspci |grep Ethernet ?12:43
reddwolfnot sure what you mean12:44
lupine_85run the command "lspci | grep Ethernet"12:44
lupine_85pastebin (see the topic) the output and post the link12:45
lupine_85 srdjant_slack: try CTRL+0 (if using Konversation ;) )12:46
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reddwolfdo you have the link for pastebin12:46
srdjant_slacklupine_85, what??12:46
lupine_85in the topic...12:46
lupine_85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:47
lupine_85logfiles if in konq.12:47
lupine_85(crosslink: scrollback)12:47
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srdjantlupine_85: ctrl-0 and ctrl-o do nothing. what are they supposed to do?12:48
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srdjant_slacki already have it to maximum, a small and carppy 1000 lines12:48
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lupine_85Supposed to load up your logfile for the current channel12:48
lupine_85where you can go back as many KB as you require12:48
srdjantoh ok, it made tabs that I didn't initially see12:48
lupine_85:p12:49
tom_moin12:49
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fluke777hi i have just upgraded form breezy to dapper and have som issues with  switching keyboard layouts could anybody give me a hand with this?12:49
srdjantthanks for that tip, lupine_85 :)12:49
lupine_85wow, 1MB only takes me back 25 hours12:49
lupine_85np12:49
srdjant_slacklol12:49
reddwolfi'm not getting anything but my regular lan connection12:49
lupine_85how about just lspci ?12:50
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reddwolfand thats ( rev 90)12:50
lupine_85(might not be showing as an Ethernet device, if it's nominally unsupported)12:50
srdjant_slackreddwolf, we need the whole line12:50
lupine_85so just pastebin the output of lspci12:50
lupine_85rev. 90 is in reference to his wired lan12:51
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swamptooi installed kubuntu but the display is like 640x480 and i cant change it, any ideas?12:51
felix___HEEEEELP12:51
lupine_85not xmoto still?12:52
felix___Can u Tell me why I cant install LIBJPEG ?12:52
reddwolfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2173212:52
lupine_85swamptoo: what video driver are you using? (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)12:52
srdjant_slacklibjped should be installed12:52
felix___-/configure returns error because it needs libjpeg12:52
srdjant_slackinstall the -dev package12:52
lupine_85if compiling, he'll need libjpeg-dev12:52
lupine_85(or whatever it's called)12:52
srdjant_slackfelix___, xmoto?12:52
felix___libjpg-dex i need12:52
felix___yes12:52
lupine_850000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 030112:52
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srdjant_slackfelix___, the configure script for xmoto is broken12:53
felix___How can i install -dev?12:53
srdjant_slacki had to edit it to fix some issues12:53
reddwolfi have a linsys wireless pci card12:53
felix___hm12:53
swamptoolupine_85: i81012:53
reddwolf*linksys12:53
felix___but i still need LibJPEG -dev ?12:53
srdjantfelix___: perhaps12:53
srdjantprobably12:53
lupine_85OK, you need to look at the following site - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page12:54
felix___do u know how can i install it?12:54
felix___i downloaded libjpeg-6b.tar.gz12:54
srdjantralink card. asus built those afaik.12:54
lupine_85swamptoo: try changing it to 'vesa'12:54
felix___And made ./configure12:54
lupine_85could be any one of 5 chipsets12:54
felix___no errors12:54
felix___then i made make for this jpeg12:54
felix___no errors12:54
felix___and then i want to make "make-install" and it returns errors12:55
lupine_85swamptoo: then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; answer the questions (Defaults usually are safe); then restart the x-server: ctrl+alt+backspace12:55
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felix___HELP?12:55
srdjant_slackmake install12:55
lupine_85reddwolf: 4 of them have linux drivers, one you'll need to use ndiswrapper for12:55
felix___yes12:56
felix___I tried12:56
KutanCan someone tell me what I can do on linux that I can't on other OS'? >_> I've been sittin here staring at my monitor for the past 30 minutes12:56
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lupine_85felix___: did ou sudo it?12:56
srdjant_slackwhat's the error?12:56
lupine_85Kutan: other *nix will do everything linux does12:56
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lupine_85for fun, install 'teatime'12:56
Kutan...teatime?12:56
reddwolfok were do i get that wrapper12:56
lupine_85or apt-cache search <keyword-relating-to-a-hobby>12:56
lupine_85reddwolf: read what I said again12:56
swamptoolupine_85:  i get 'permission denied' when i try to save agter changing to "vesa"12:56
felix___"  /usr/bin/install: regular file /usr/local/man/man1/cjpeg.1 cant be created: No such file or directory "12:57
reddwolfor ndiswrapper12:57
lupine_85swamptoo: you need to edit it as root12:57
lupine_85e.g. "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (in a terminal)12:57
lupine_85or use the "Run Command" menu option12:57
felix___<srdjant_slack> "  /usr/bin/install: regular file /usr/local/man/man1/cjpeg.1 cant be created: No such file or directory "12:58
lupine_85reddwolf: you need to find out the exact make, model and version of your card12:58
reddwolfok12:58
lupine_85then you need to compare it against this list:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported12:58
srdjant_slackfelix___, in xmoto source dir, cd bin, ../xmoto12:58
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KutanTeatime: "Gnome Panel applet to reminds you when your tea is ready" .... huh12:58
lupine_85does herbal and earl grey ;)12:59
felix___ <srdjant_slack> what?12:59
lupine_85seriously, though. Think of a task.12:59
lupine_85You'll find a program in the repos that addresses the problem12:59
srdjant_slackfelix___, what's your current directory?12:59
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lupine_85much faster (and cheaper!) than windows + google + credit card12:59
felix___ <srdjant_slack> for waht?12:59
reddwolftrue01:00
felix___ <srdjant_slack> i think i need to make jpeg-dev first01:00
felix___ <srdjant_slack> ihavnt got this one yet01:00
srdjant_slackbut you said you made it already01:00
lupine_85erm, no. You don't01:00
reddwolfi have a driver software from when i bought the pci card would those work01:00
felix___ <srdjant_slack> no it makes problems01:00
lupine_85libjpeg-dev is *not* for building01:00
lupine_85reddwolf: maybe under ndiswrapper or linuxant01:00
reddwolfoh01:00
srdjant_slackyou don't need to install xmoto. you can play it from the build directory01:00
felix___ <srdjant_slack><lupine_85>  So how the hell can i get it?01:00
lupine_85without knowing the hardware, it's impossible to say01:01
lupine_85libjpeg is already installed01:01
lupine_85!libjpeg-dev01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
lupine_85!libjpeg01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libjpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:01
lupine_85!libjpeg-mmx-dev01:01
ubotulibjpeg-mmx-dev: Development files for the IJG JPEG library with mmx optimization. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.5-2 (dapper), package size 109 kB, installed size 348 kB (Only available for i386)01:01
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felix___<lupine_85>  "!" <- ?01:01
srdjant_slacklupine_85, it's just a apt-get thing, yes?01:01
reddwolfwere can i find the ndiswrapper01:02
felix___<ubotu> where can i geti it?01:02
srdjantreddwolf: just google01:02
lupine_85ndiswrapper is in the repos01:02
lupine_85as ndiswrapper-utils01:02
lupine_85but if you can, you should go with a native driver01:02
felix___<ubotu> where can i get it?01:02
lupine_85you've got an 80% chance of being supported01:02
swamptoolupine_85:  that dint work, i changed everything and restarted xserver, same thing01:02
lupine_85all it takes is a bit of digging01:02
srdjantfelix___: apt-get install libjpeg-mmx-dev01:03
lupine_85swamptoo: ok what happens when you hit ctrl+alt+KP_+01:03
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lupine_85or ctrl+alt+KP_-01:03
lupine_85(KP=keypad)01:03
lupine_85srdjant: if it's built already, then libjpeg almost certainly isn't the problem01:03
lupine_85....unless the person writing the Makefile was an idiot01:03
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swamptoolupine_85:  im on a laptop01:04
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felix____ <lupine_85> May I please u for an clear answer? What about libjpeg-dev now?01:04
swamptoolupine_85:  im on inspiron 1100 laptop01:04
glj12mmm01:05
srdjant_slacklupine_85, well felix___ isn't being all that clear about it - not sure if he managed to build xmoto. I do know that the configure script is bad for xmoto, I had to hack it to setup correct -l options for gcc. I think felix___ has problems installing, ut you can run xmoto in the build directory.01:05
lupine_85sorry, been called to bed :(. felix___: just use the bleeding repos. swamptoo: make sure you've got the right modes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  reddwolf: google01:05
felix____<srdjant_slack> in the bin there are about 4 files or so01:05
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felix____<srdjant_slack> i dont think thats all I need ;)01:06
srdjant_slackMakefile  Makefile.am  Makefile.in  anims.dat  editor.dat  fonts.dat  music.raw  sprites.dat  xmoto.bin01:06
felix____editor.dat fonts.dat makefile.am makefile.in xmoto.bin xmoto.ogg01:07
felix____?01:07
srdjant_slackok so in the bin dir, do:   ../xmoto01:07
felix____felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto01:09
larson9999so i figured i'd take the time to finally check out one of my tv capture cards.  both are ati.  i want to record videos to my hd.  apparently xawtv doesn't work with the fglrx driver.  is there an option that does work with the flgrx driver?01:09
felix____felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto01:09
felix____nothing happened01:09
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felix____<srdjant_slack> felix@ubuntu:~/Downloads/Xmoto-Src/xmoto-0.2.0/bin$ ../xmoto01:09
felix____<srdjant_slack> nothin happens01:10
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srdjant_slackno idea then. i have older version01:10
felix____ah ok....01:10
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srdjant_slack[srdjant@thor ~/Downloads/xmoto-0.1.16/bin] $01:10
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srdjant_slackthe irony is that there is a verion in the repository01:12
srdjant_slackalthough older than my version01:12
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plugshi, i have a problem. i can't do two sound things at the same time. i mean, i can't for instance talk on skype and listen to music at the same time. can i fix this?01:15
srdjant_slackmaybe use alsa01:15
talljon84I am attempting to get hibernation to work from the hotkey on my keyboard. I determined it's keycode and was going to use lineak to trigger the hibernation script. What command do I need to have it launch to begin the hibernation process?01:16
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srdjant_slackmadman rocks01:17
madman-@*@01:17
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srdjant_slackmadman as the music software :P   http://madman.sf.net01:18
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glj12anyone here good with sound problems...01:19
madman-need some help. i'm trying to get yahoo mail to kmail. My full time user ID is motorcitymadman but i shorten for the user list01:19
madman-sarjant_slack: looking over the madman site now01:20
talljon84Is anyone aware of whether the fglrx drivers now behave with suspend to disk|ram functionality?01:20
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madman-need some help. i'm trying to get yahoo mail to kmail. any ideas ?01:22
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madman-i just started using kubuntu. Liunx for that matter of fact01:23
erovdont use it so.. no but let me see01:24
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ccherrettHawkwind: hey man01:28
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fabian2dehey guys.... anybody there, who can tell me, which application is called when I click on a cd-drive and select "Eject"? I use kubuntu 6.06 and I want to bind my cd-eject-key on my keyboard to this application01:29
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ccherrettHawkwind: I am trying to run irssi from SoS and irssi is not recognizing the /script command. Is there something special about your package?01:29
turjanhi01:30
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Sannefabian2de: there used to be an app "eject", I don't know though if it is this one that's used by the right click eject menu.01:31
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fabian2deSanne: yeah, I know, but for this app I need root-rights, and its a bit uncomfortable to type password for ejecting my cds ;)01:32
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Sannefabian2de: ah, ok, then you already know as much as me :)01:33
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ubuntuhi01:34
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ubuntuwhere from jon01:34
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louie_hi everyone01:34
ubuntuhi01:34
ubuntui am from scotland01:34
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Sanneubuntu: ooohhh beautiful Scotland! :)01:35
ubuntui think cincinnati01:35
nixternalalrighty, who can fix my dvd problems01:35
ubuntuis cool01:35
louie_i was in the ubuntu irc and the were no help.  i'm having a problem with gnome crashing and sending me to the login screen randomly, can anyone help please?01:35
jon_nix, what's wrong with your dvd01:36
ubuntusorry new to unbuntu myself01:36
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nixternalheh, if you get good gnome help here, you are lucky, considering 99% of the people here are KDE only fanatics ;)01:36
nixternalit won't mount01:36
nixternalheh01:36
jbasiliolouie_: has it always done this?01:36
louie_jbasilio - no, it started just today, it just dumps me back to the login.  i've been using ubuntu/kubuntu since november and this is the first problem i couldnt fix off the forum01:37
jbasiliolouie_: did you run an update recently?  or change anything?01:37
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Sannefabian2de: haha, I found something interesting. Look at this file, there's a command at the end, maybe that's what you need: /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_eject.desktop01:38
louie_i was using kde, but my resolution always sets to a super high level at bootup, and gnome keeps my settings...yea, i updated today.01:38
kutanYay I finally need some more help.01:38
jbasiliolouie_: i mean did you run an update and then bad stuff starting occurring?  usually something changed .. stuff doesn't break out of the blue01:38
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kutanSo uhm... How do I install Adobe Flash Player? For some reason it doesn't want to work in the konsole01:39
louie_jbasilio - yea, i auto updated today, it was some combiz stuff (not using it though, back to regular x)01:39
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fabian2deSanne: well, I tried your first tip.... I didn't know its possible to eject a unmounted cd without typing the password :) now it works! thanks alot!!01:39
jbasiliolouie_: are you sure you're back to X?  do you see Xgl running at all?  did you back out everything you adjusted to start Xgl?01:40
Sannefabian2de:  oh, cool it works. But still, this kio_media_mounthelper looks interesting also, in case you ever need it.01:40
jbasiliokutan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox01:40
louie_jbasilio - no, that could be it. i set up xgl about a month ago, but it messes with my tv, so i only fire it up to impress the windows people01:41
kutanthanks :D01:41
Dr_Williswow - messes up the tv! now thats a powerfull system!01:41
louie_lol, i mean tv card01:41
jbasiliolouie_: i had forgotten a couple edits i made when i setup compiz.  issue "history" at xterm and look for anything you might have forgotten01:41
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jbasilioi can't wait for compiz to be more stable with KDE .. right now it's super-impressive but also super-silly since it's so unstable01:42
jbasilioat least it was for me01:42
Dr_Willissame here01:42
Dr_Willisbut im using the MatchBox window manager at the moment.. so eyecandy is useles. :)01:42
jbasiliofreakin' cool as anything though.  i can't wait for kde4 + compiz stuff .. going to be a lot of tools in the toolbox for creative developers01:42
kutan..... "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"01:43
arepieanyone could help with ati driver installation?? i got error01:43
louie_jbasilio - the only thing i did do that was suspicious.. i installed mail notification 3.0 from a deb package01:44
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jbasiliolouie_: try apt-get remove <package> .. see if it gets better01:44
jbasiliokutan: did you add the repository?01:45
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jbasiliokutan: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:46
kutanthanks again01:47
jbasiliokutan:  you need to add a couple URLs to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that it knows about the other files01:47
louie_jbasilio - thank for all your help. i'll have to drop back into gnome now.. one more question, if it doesn't work, can i try to reinstall gnome?01:49
jbasiliolouie_: maybe.  my guess is it isn't gnome though if you weren't having issues before.  i think it's something you added or didn't remove (i.e. compiz related)01:50
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louie_cool, i'll dump combiz and all related settings, later bro01:50
arepieanyone, plese look at this error.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2173801:52
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jbasilioarepie: what are you trying to do?01:54
arepieim trying to install ATI driver01:55
jbasilioi know for nvidia i added the following line to my "Device" section01:55
jbasilioOption          "NvAGP" "0"01:55
jbasiliootherwise i would freeze now and again since i run multiple X sessions01:55
jbasiliodon't know if there is something similiar with ati01:56
LeeJunFannot with ATI, I dont know what's causing that error, apparently a userspace program tried something it shouldn't have with fglrx.01:57
kutanjbasilio: When you said I needed to add a couple URLs .... What URLs..?01:57
jbasiliokutan: my guess is01:57
jbasiliodeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free01:57
jbasiliodeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main01:57
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kutan...oh... thanks... >_>01:58
arepiearepie@Arepie:~$ fglrxinfo01:58
arepieError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!01:58
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jbasiliokutan: sure .. let me know if it doesn't work01:58
arepiewhat is that means?01:58
KaiNHello everyone01:58
LeeJunFanI wish usb flash drives got mounted sync, people at the library not leaving their stuff in long enough after unmounting because it looks as though the writing is done as far as KDE shows.01:58
KaiNDoes anyone know how to edit in super user mode in Kubuntu?01:59
jbasilioarepie: don't know.  are you trying to run Xgl?01:59
arepienope..01:59
jbasilioKaiN: sudo <editor>  .. or sudo vi .. :)01:59
kutan...It says I can't write to it01:59
arepiethe instruction asked me to check the error that way01:59
KaiNok will try it, thanks jbasilio01:59
jbasiliokutan: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
kutaneheh...02:00
kutanI always forget the sudo thing02:00
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jbasilioarepie: sorry .. i don't have ati. what instructions?02:00
arepie!ati02:00
ubuntu?02:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:00
arepiethat instruction02:01
ubuntuevenin'02:01
jbasiliokutan: yeah .. it's a pain sometimes but it's better that way in the long run02:01
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jbasilioarepie: or look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29 and compare notes02:01
cronen.02:02
arepiejbasilio: hold on02:02
cronenany of  you guys using freenx?02:02
kutanOdd... Didn't seem to work.02:02
jbasilioarepie: looks like it ends up here   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide02:03
arepieyup.. i've tried that too02:03
arepieboth of them end up with the same error02:03
kutanIt still says it couldn't find the package02:03
jbasilioi hope the driver situation works itself out .. right now that's 1 more thing that's a pain in the butt.  once compiz et al get fixed the only card that works """"easily""""" is nvidia02:04
jbasilioand even that can be a pain unless it's all setup by the distribution02:04
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kutanalso, when I do ./flashplayer-installer after downloading and extracting the folder from the adobe flash player website, it gives me this error02:06
kutan"02:07
kutanERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the02:07
kutan       Macromedia Flash Player installer.02:07
kutan"02:07
jbasiliokutan: congrats!  you added the repository!  bummer that your architecture isn't supported.  i think you could use a 32 bit kernel and then be ok02:08
kutanOh god... the words 32 bit kernel just made my head explode02:08
kutan._.02:08
Sannejbasilio, kutan: no need for a new kernel, you just need a 32 bit Firefox to run flash in02:09
Sannekutan: let me find you some info on that, sec02:09
kutan...oh thanks. o_O;02:09
Sannekutan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19120502:11
swamptooQ: i plugged in my wireless card and started "wireless assistant" it sees my network but i cannot connect to it...any ideas?02:11
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kutanthanks02:12
swamptooI'm using DHCP to connect by the way02:12
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Sannekutan: you're welcome. If you get problems while following those, fell free to come back and ask for more help :)02:13
Sannenight all02:15
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kutan"gksudo: command not found" Gotta love em02:18
kutanIt says I need to use the command "gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc" but it's not working ._.02:19
kutan-_- Screw firefox, I'm done with that for now. :(02:22
talljon84How would I confirm that powernowd is successfully modifying the cpufreq?02:22
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Nerevarwell, i found my mandrake cd102:23
Nerevarfunny how something created 3 years ago works and no linux distribution i can find will work for me now02:23
Nerevaranyways.. going to try to back stuff up..02:23
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zeronenorezhey dudes,how tu install gaim theme? i use ATER.02:35
malice_anyone out there that can help a newbie with a wireless card for a laptop? My computer sees the card but I can not connect to it. even if I disable the ethernet and eneble the wireless in network settings02:35
jbasiliokutan: just use "sudo kate" in place of gksudo gedit02:36
Healot!wifi02:36
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:36
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turjanhi,02:36
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kutanYeah I did that but the file I was supposed to edit was blank02:37
kutan=\02:37
zeronenorezthere is the Giam themes files locate?02:37
zeronenorezwhere is the Giam themes files locate?02:37
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jbasiliokutan: sorry, don't know how to help you since i don't have 64 bit stuff02:39
jbasiliokutan: pango seems a little weird to be editing though .. i forget what the app is but i don't recall it having anything to do with ffox02:39
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turjananyone using apt-build here? I'm trying to do so but crashes with a segfault. Running on a 6.06 on amd64 HW. Using dpkg-buildpackage works just right. After searching for similar behaviors on google the only way it seems the only solution left is perl -d.02:40
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apallo27what's the best way to set up my dual monitor setup? I have 2 monitors, each attached to it's own video card02:40
apallo27and i want to span the desktop across both desktops02:41
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apallo27what's the best way to set up my dual monitor setup? I have 2 monitors, each attached to it's own video card, and i want the desktop spanned across both monitors02:45
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Healotthe best? with Windows operating systems of course, atm02:51
apallo27well, what's the easiest way in kubuntu then02:52
Healotheh, clearly02:52
Healotuse the kcontrol?02:53
HealotKDE Menu > System Settings > Display02:53
turjanWindows && operating system == false02:53
Healoti wonder which factoid ubotu have on this?02:53
turjanXD02:53
apallo27i've tried it with kontrol02:54
apallo27it didn't work...02:54
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Healotof course, we already know that...02:55
Healotyou need to configure the monitors either manually, via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:55
zeronenorezHow can i install Gaim themes? I mean copy theme files to where?02:55
Healotthen you can use that Display module02:55
Healot!display02:56
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:56
Healotok, I sorted the factoid out02:56
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pierrethhello, i'm having a hard time import my contacts in Kontact02:59
pierrethi don't see the formated name02:59
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:00
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malice_I installed the wavecan driver and still nothing errrrrr03:01
Nerevarhdg: cdrom_pc_intr: drive appears comfused03:02
Nerevarwhat does it mean03:02
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louie_jbasilio - thanx for the help! it was that mail notification 3.0 apperently.. solid as a rock now03:06
jbasiliolouie_: glad to hear it!  it's amazing the wierd stuff that can destabilize03:07
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Nerevarhdg: cdrom_pc_intr: drive appears comfused03:08
Nerevarwhat does it mean03:08
louie_jbasilio - maybe you can help me with my kde problem ( the reason i swithed to gnome in the first place)03:08
Nerevarrepeats infinitely when i try to launch the live cd.03:08
Nerevar*confused.03:08
jbasiliolouie_: i can take a shot03:09
Nerevarduring mounting rood file system03:09
Nerevar*root03:09
mraySomebody knows what to do when "System Settings" keep staying grayed out. even in Administrator mode!!!?03:09
mray(can't press "apply" etc..)03:10
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louie_for some reason, when i upgraded to 3.4.3, my resolution defaults at 17XX x (real high anyways) in kde and in the login screen, gnome is the only one that keeps my setting03:10
larson9999wholly smokes i don't think i'm going to get this tuner going in windows or linux03:11
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mraySomebody knows what to do when "System Settings" keep staying grayed out. even in Administrator mode!!!?03:13
louie_i checked my xorg config file and the biggest setting is 1200x (cant remeber, the one i use anyways)03:13
jbasiliolouie_: that should be an X thing .. not a kde thing03:13
jbasiliolouie_: do you have the resize-and-rotate thing in your system tray?03:14
malice_anyone using in here a wireless card with a orinoco chipset?03:15
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louie_no, i don't even know what that is.  i don't understand why gnome isn't affected03:15
jbasiliolouie_: look in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for anything funny ..03:15
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Healotmalice, as far as i know, that chipset is a no-no, !wifi yet?03:16
linuxkid2hey!03:16
malice_what is a good card to get that would be plug and play kinda?03:16
Healotrt24xx or rt25xx >> malice03:16
Healotmost of them are pnp with linux03:17
Healotlook into the list though03:17
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linuxkid2there are plenty of websites for checking hardware compatibility03:17
louie_jbasilio - oh and xfce is affected too03:17
linuxkid2wifi in particular03:17
jbasiliomalice_: nvidia ..03:18
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malice_url?03:18
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linuxkid2me?03:18
malice_yes03:18
linuxkid2I don't know any off the top of my head.03:18
linuxkid2Google is what I did.03:18
linuxkid2linuxdrivers.org, i think03:18
jbasiliolouie_: not sure why gnome isn't affected.  can you post your xorg.conf file to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:18
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Healotfor ubuntu specific03:19
Healot!wifi03:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:19
malice_http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=2Wire03:19
malice_why does it say there it is supported?03:20
linuxkid2How often is that updated? There'll be more at each kernel upgrade, right?03:20
louie_jbasilio - ok03:20
rej_CUPS disables administrator commands, and tells me to run the gnome network manager.  KDE equivalent?03:20
linuxkid2It's the kernel. Ubuntu's kernel won't support the same as SUSE's.03:20
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malice_ok03:21
jbasilioanyone know what the rotate and resize app is named that runs in the system tray?  i exited it in hopes of restarting to advise louie_  .. but can't find it again03:21
jbasiliorej_: kprinter probably03:21
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_alexany SuSE users?03:21
spazzArgh, I am having serious problems with the terminal heh.03:22
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linuxkid2nope. but I live in utah03:22
jbasilioon the ubuntu channel?03:22
spazzCould someone look at this pastebin and see if they know what I could do to fix it?03:22
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174303:22
linuxkid2If I ever buy an enterprise distro, suse is first on the list.03:22
spazzI can't get ANYTHING to install.03:22
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HealotE: Unmet dependencies03:23
Healotcommon03:23
Healotread the following factoids03:23
Healot!repos03:24
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:24
jbasilioHealot: more than that .. look @ the end03:24
Healot!packages03:24
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!03:24
jbasilioHealot: failed to write to pipe .. pretty nasty internal errors03:24
Healotit is caused by the previous error...03:24
louie_jbasilio - ok, i posted it under lchenot (first time posting so i hope i did it right)03:24
Healothe need apt-get -f install, i think03:25
spazzWhat does the serious errors mean?03:25
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spazzthink my hdd is dying .. since even the windows installers refuse to work03:25
spazzSo, what do I do to fix it? remove .. some packages? or03:26
Healotsudo apt-get -f install03:26
spazzi tried that a min ago, and it gave me that.03:26
spazzill try it again03:26
Healotsee if apt can fix the installation errors03:26
jbasiliolouie_: looks ok to me.  (unfortunately)03:27
spazzdpkg was interrupted ,...03:27
jbasiliolouie_: the only resolution i have in mine is 1280x1024 .. not that it should matter but you might try deleting those other resolutions03:28
louie_jbasilio - oh well, i can always set it manually, the only bummer is the login screen, no biggie  thanx!  ok, i'll try it03:28
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174503:28
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spazzthat is what it gave me, now.03:28
malice__linuxkid203:28
malice__you still there?03:28
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linuxkid2yes03:29
mrayhi! I have a problem with KDE's system settings - i can't change anything. EVen in Administrator mode!!! - any ideas why??!?03:29
malice__You said a rt24xx or a rt25xx03:29
malice__and that will work03:30
malice__who makes these?03:30
linuxkid2that wasn't me...03:30
malice__I am a newbie03:30
linuxkid2one sec03:30
malice__big time newbie03:30
malice__hehe03:30
zorba64spazz, try sudo apt-get update and then try to sudo apt-get remove librsvg2-203:30
spazzok03:30
linuxkid2that was healot03:30
malice__I am just looking for a card that will work in this laptop with kubuntu03:30
jbasiliomray: try running from console with sudo in front of it .. "sudo kcontrol"03:31
linuxkid2those are chipsets, by the look of them. made by one manufactorer but used by lots of brands03:31
malice__I just need to buy another one03:31
malice__mmmm03:31
linuxkid2so, google for a card, find our its chipset, and then find out if that has a good linux driver.03:31
spazzI did the update, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174603:32
zorba64mray, more info...what sort of mesages (if any) are you getting?03:32
spazzI tried running it again and the same thing03:32
zorba64spazz, you might try looking at the sources.lst for dupes03:33
malice__my card has a orinoco03:33
mrayieverything behaves normal. there is no extra message.03:33
spazznano the file?03:33
mrayi just press "Administrator Mode" and enter my password. but the items remain grayed out!!03:33
linuxkid2malice__: so google the card's brand and model number. find the chipset.03:33
linuxkid2or look at it03:33
linuxkid2it might say on it03:33
zorba64spazz, sure sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.lst03:34
spazzoh ok03:34
malice__the brand is 2wire03:34
spazzwhat does -w do?03:34
mrayspazz: did you mean when i start from console?03:34
zorba64spazz, stops it wrapping03:34
linuxkid2malice__: 2Wire Oricoco? or did you say 2Wire brand Orinoco chipset?03:34
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malice__2 wire and when I searced for it a site told me it was a orinoco chip set03:35
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mraydo i paste to a pastebin in here?03:35
shane_Hey people.03:35
spazzarrrgh!03:35
spazzits not letting me get there03:35
malice__http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=2Wire03:36
malice__see03:36
linuxkid2malice__: k, now there are many databases where you can search the brand or the chipset03:36
malice__this is the site03:36
linuxkid2ok, one min03:36
shane_I have been searching for a program that removes duplicate MP3's from a folder. I have 34000 MP3's and I think about 9k are dupes.03:36
spazzok now its working03:36
malice__this is a pc card for a laptop03:37
shane_I cannot find one for linux but I have found a few for windows03:37
linuxkid2pcmcia03:37
spazzi dont see any dupes03:37
malice__yes I can just pull it out03:37
mrayzorba64: here is the error i get when i start from console and browse the display settings that do not work correctly: http://pastebin.com/77691103:37
mrayi have no idea what that all means.03:38
malice__I installed that wavlan driver and that did nothing03:38
malice__wavelan even03:38
linuxkid2!wifi03:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:38
linuxkid2look there malice__03:38
malice__I used that also03:38
malice__:)03:38
linuxkid2is it in there?03:38
malice__not that I could see03:38
malice__this was my last hope03:38
malice__then I was going to go out and by another brand hehhe03:39
linuxkid2then, to use it you'd need to install a kernel module or compile the kernel yourself. Not too fun.03:39
linuxkid2for some. :-)03:39
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zorba64mray, looks rather ugly...and i have no idea..???03:40
linuxkid2malice__: just go and buy a good card. check the ubuntu dbase before purchase though. :)03:40
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malice__hehe I will thanks anyways....03:41
malice__l8r03:41
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D4rklyi used to have sound working in wine while running WoW but i upgraded wine and now i have no sound ?03:48
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D4rklyyay got sound now :)03:52
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Healothow's it coming, lad?03:53
inteliwaspwhat do i need for my realtek chipset wlan card to wirk?03:54
inteliwasp*work03:54
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Dr_Willispatience, luck, and a fanatical devotion to the pope.03:56
Dr_Willis:)03:56
swamptui just installed kubuntu and mine worked out fo the box, it's a wpc1103:56
josephhello all03:56
josephhas anyone installed a Gigabit NetXtreme NIC under KDE before?03:56
swamptuinteliwasp: have you tried plugging in the network card and starting the wirelss assitant?03:58
shane_is there a music manager for Kubuntu ( or general linux) that would remove duplicate MP3 files from a collection?03:58
inteliwaspwhat the command for the wireless assistant?03:58
josephalso anyone tell me what I need to do if i get the error: *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop. when trying to run make to compile a driver?03:58
swamptuinteliwasp: i just selected it from the kmenu under 'internet'03:59
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josephswamptu> it is not a wireless card so it closes as soon as i open it03:59
swamptujoseph: im not sure about your problem I am new to this OS but i was gonna try to help inteliwasp get his going by doing what i just did04:01
inteliwaspswamptu:  it failed04:02
swamptudid it see any networks?04:02
inteliwaspyes04:02
swamptuok good04:02
inteliwaspand no there is no wep04:02
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swamptuinteliwasp: ok now what i did after that worked is install knetworkmanager04:02
trappistI'm trying to install ubuntu in vmware, and the graphical install is way too slow to deal with.  how do I launch ye olde installer from the cdrom?04:03
crimsunyou can't from the live cd. You need to use an image of the alternate installer.04:03
trappistbleh.04:04
swamptuinteliwasp: i installed knetworkmanager from synaptic or you could prolly do apt-get install knetworkmanager04:05
inteliwaspswamptu:  finnished04:05
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inteliwaspswamptu:  ...installing that is04:05
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swamptuinteliwasp: ok open it from the 'internet' in kmenu04:05
swamptuinteliwasp: knetworkmanager that is04:06
inteliwaspswamptu:  open04:07
swamptuinteliwasp: ok now use that to find wireless networks04:07
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swamptuyou left click the little icon it made down in your taskbar i think04:07
mzelemDoes anyone know if there is a USB Faxmodem that will work in kubuntu?04:08
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inteliwaspswamptu:  ...hrmm... it only sees my wired netwirk04:08
swamptuinteliwasp: take out your ethernet cable04:09
swamptuinteliwasp: it will then autofind thw wireless networkjs04:09
swamptuthen come back and tell me if it worked04:09
inteliwaspnope04:10
inteliwaspjust did04:10
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swamptuyou have ethernet plugged in on that laptop?04:10
inteliwaspyes, i did unpluged it but no joy...04:11
swamptuyou should maybe even remove the ethernet cable to your laptop and restart your pc with your card plugged in and hten start knetworkmanager04:11
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swamptui think thats what i did04:11
swamptuyou say there is no security?04:12
swamptuno wep key?04:12
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inteliwaspthats corect, no wep04:12
swamptuwell i would remove the ethernet cable to your laptop and restart your pc with your card plugged in and hten start knetworkmanager and see if it works....worth a shot04:12
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inteliwaspi tried that04:13
NerevarOk04:13
NerevarI got the live cd to boot by using the irqpoll option04:13
swamptuinteliwasp: you dint try that yet though using knetworkmanager cause you just installed it04:13
NerevarCouldnt get the wireless working though04:13
inteliwaspbut apon looking at dmesg, the last line when i inserted the wlan card, it says:..04:13
NerevarI tried enabling eth1 but it wouldn't enable and it wouldn't explain why04:14
inteliwasp[17180435.060000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready04:14
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NerevarAny ideas?04:16
swamptuinteliwasp: are you using ndiswrapper to install your drivers?04:16
inteliwaspswamptu:  no04:17
swamptuok i dint either04:17
inteliwaspNerevar:  is this your only network card?04:17
NerevarNod04:18
NerevarWell04:18
NerevarYeah i think04:18
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inteliwaspNerevar:  try eth004:18
NerevarI think eth0 is my ground based connection, but i cant hook it up04:18
inteliwaspNerevar:  don't wory, i did this before... ;)04:18
NerevarToo far away04:18
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NerevarThe icon for ETH0 was a funny little green card04:19
NerevarFor eth1 it looked like to black keyholes or something04:19
inteliwaspNerevar:  try runnin this command in a terminal:  ifconfig -a04:19
Nerevarok04:19
Nerevarand post the results here right?04:20
NerevarIll reboot into kubuntu ok04:20
inteliwaspNerevar:  just the interface names04:20
Nerevarok04:20
josephanyone have experience using makefiles under KDE?04:21
Healotcompiling Qt applications?04:22
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josephHealot> i am trying to compile a driver04:25
Healot!build04:26
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:26
josephHealot> need to use 'make' to build it and it gives me an error saying that there is 'No rule to make target 'Modules'. Stop.04:27
trappistcrimsun: in case it comes up again, the "safe" graphical installer is much, much faster in vmware04:27
Healotfollow links that ubotu gave04:28
mcrandellois this something that requires a ./configure first?04:28
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josephHealot/ubotu> I did that...for some reason ./configure gives me a 'no such file or directory' so i assumed i am missing another package perhaps.04:32
malice_? for a newbie I am installing something and I have to go into sudo vi orinoco.c  when I go in there and edit how do I then save this? what buttons do I type?04:33
crimsunZZ04:33
crimsun(capitalisation matters)04:33
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malice_just type ZZ04:34
malice_and it will save my mods?04:34
crimsun[esc]  ZZ04:34
malice_ooh ok04:34
malice_ty04:34
BearcatHey folks04:35
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trappistyou know, I've known about ZZ since I was a wee tadpole, and I've never used it once.  I just :wq04:36
Bearcati'm trying to help foot install his printer. No matter what printer we choose it tells us he can't load the driver. We have hplip, cups, and foomatic installed. What else are we missing?04:36
CapNemoahh 3.5.4 available ?! but apt-get update see nothing new ??!04:37
malice_static int force_monitor; /* static int force_monitor = 1 */    this is what I did and this is what they told me... is this correct? From here, locate the line in orinoco.c that says static int force_monitor; /* = 0 */ and change it to say static int force_monitor = 1;04:37
trappistCapNemo: you need a new line in your sources.list04:37
HawkwindCapNemo: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main  <~~Add this line04:37
trappistor: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main04:38
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CapNemoah oki a repository from kubuntu directly04:38
trappistyes04:38
Hawkwindtrappist: Same here with the ZZ stuff.  The :wq just happens as a habit04:38
trappistHawkwind: ZZ seems like an obscure piece of vim trivia to me04:39
HawkwindAgreed :)04:39
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mcrandelloIt's all about pico04:39
trappistpico is for girls </texteditorflamewar>04:39
CapNemoeheh the famous ZZ of vim ^^04:39
mcrandelloall the useful commands listed at the bottom, "^" means hold ctrl and that letter04:39
mcrandellogirls apparently care more about editing their files than learning button combinations in an abominable interface04:40
mcrandelloplus I like girls04:40
mcrandello;P04:40
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Healotnano is smaller, hence nano :)04:41
spazzmy sources list is messed up i think04:41
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mcrandelloI do have a copy of the vi quick reference guide from an old OLD installation of sysV. I keep it around as a makeshift coaster04:41
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Kr4t05!webcams04:43
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:43
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CapNemommm kubuntu seems a good distro :)04:46
spazzyea always breaks the fastest. heh.04:47
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Bearcathey folks. it seems that kubuntu is using hplip 0.9.7?  Why is it so old? How can we get 1.6.7?04:48
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Ballistiksudo apt-get upgrade hplip?04:49
CapNemook time to relaunch kde04:49
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BearcatBallistik: what is the latest version in the...uh..repository?04:50
BallistikNot sure mate04:50
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spazzHow do I ... use my backup sources.list?04:51
spazzI have a backup file of it, but ... I cant rename any of the files...04:52
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mcrandello.9.7 showing in adept no updates available04:52
mcrandellothis with uni+multi enabled04:52
mcrandellotime to break out the source and checkinstall04:52
spazz... everything BROKEN here.04:53
mcrandellospazz, using "mv" to rename it?04:53
mcrandelloerr "sudo mv"04:53
spazz... dont know what that is.04:53
Ballistikmv moves a file04:53
spazz... so what is the easiest way to use my backup file?04:54
mcrandelloor renames it, "moving" it to a new name04:54
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Bearcathello foot, fancy meeting you here04:54
mcrandelloyou trying to rename it in konqueror?04:54
spazzyea04:55
footBearcat: I brought kitty treats\04:55
Bearcatyay!04:55
spazzis that how i should do it tho, rename the original source list to ... backup2 or something and just rename the backup file to the orginal?04:55
mcrandellookay, right click the desktop spazz then hit "run command"04:55
spazzok04:55
mcrandellotype in "sudo konqueror"04:55
spazzok04:55
mcrandellodo NOT go wildly clicking and dragging you can ruin things if you aren't careful :)04:56
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mcrandelloyou should be able to rename it now04:56
spazznothing happened.04:56
mcrandelloright click and rename didn't let you rename it?04:56
spazzno, im saying konqueror didnt open04:56
irrelevanttry '$ kdesu konqueror'04:56
mcrandelloah04:56
mcrandelloyeah sorry use kdesu instead of sudo in there04:57
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mcrandellothere's a thing you can do that keeps you from having to put in a password but that's dangerous and for another episode :)04:57
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Bearcathey folks, an apt-get update renews your package listing and an apt-get upgrade installs the new packages, right?04:59
mcrandelloyes04:59
Bearcatcool04:59
Bearcatthanx04:59
CapNemoor dist-upgrade also04:59
mcrandelloif you want to update everything use "dist-upgrade"04:59
Bearcatso apt-get dist-upgrade?04:59
mcrandellootherwise you'll have to list the packages you want upgraded04:59
mcrandellothat would do it05:00
mcrandellospazz, you get it renamed?05:00
spazzyea05:00
spazznow trying apt-get update05:00
mcrandellomake sure to close that window back out right away05:00
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mcrandellounrestricted power and all that05:01
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spazzlol hooray05:01
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CapNemospazz: your system is broken :) ?05:01
spazzthink so05:01
spazzcuz apt get wouldnt work at all kept getting errors05:02
spazzso replaced my sources.list with the backup..and going to add repos again05:02
Bearcathey folks, i know i'm not a debian/kubuntu user, but i wanted an opinon from another distro. since version 5.0.15 mysql uses 98% of my cpu when ever i close a databse. Anyone else seen that?05:02
Bearcatfoot: pastebin.c05:03
Bearcater..05:03
Bearcatpastebin.ca05:03
CapNemoBearcat: never see that no05:03
Kr4t05!webcam05:03
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:03
BearcatCapNemo: ok, so it's probably some wierd library or 64-bit thing on my distro05:04
footBearcat: http://pastebin.ca/15057405:05
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CapNemoBearcat: i use kubuntu and archlinux and no problem of this kind sorry05:06
BearcatCapNemo: thank you . that is helpful05:06
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malice_alice@malice-laptop:/usr/src/orinoco-0.15rc4$ sudo cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless05:07
malice_sudo: cd: command not found05:07
timthelionhow do I make it so that fetchmail can write to /var/mail/timthelion withought having to be run as root?05:07
malice_?05:07
Bearcatok, folks..um..apparently the most recent version of the hplip drivers is 0.9.7 from before february??! Can someone verify that for me please?05:07
CapNemotimthelion: give to fetchmail the right permissions05:07
timthelionhow do I do that?05:08
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CapNemotimthelion: chmod and chown are your friends :)05:08
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CapNemotimthelion: or give to fetchmail the group "mail"05:09
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Bearcatfoot: localhost:63105:10
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CapNemorhaaa there is no other style than baghira in the packages ?!05:13
Kr4t05Gah...05:15
Kr4t05I hate this webcam...05:15
Kr4t05I got it for free, and I'm too cheap to buy a new one.05:15
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Bearcat*snarls*05:15
CapNemoKr4t05: what's the problem with ?05:15
Bearcati am beginning to find trouble shooting kubuntu exasperating05:16
Bearcatwhy the heck would CUPS refuse to add a printer for foot, when he is root?05:16
Kr4t05CapNemo: Nothing that you could possibly help, AFAIK. I have an IBM PC Camera, which, according to every site I've looked at, isn't supported at all.05:16
SpAwNdoes anyone here use wireless and have a linksys wireless router...everytime i try and turn on wireless protection....ie wep i am unable to connect to the router.....my router had me enter a passphrease then it generated 4 keys....which ive tried useing the passphrase and all the diff keys it gave me and it still doesnt work05:17
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zblachSpAwN:05:17
zblachyes, yes, and don't use the passphrase on your computer05:17
SpAwNi tried using systemsettings and the kde wireless lan monitor05:17
zblachuse the first key generated05:17
CapNemoSpAwN: i have the same config than you and its working fine :)05:17
Kr4t05CapNemo: and, I can't use EasyCam, because it requires GNOME files.05:17
SpAwNzblach, very interesting....i tried that05:17
zblachthey don't necessarly use the same algorithm to generate pass keys05:18
CapNemoKr4t05: then buy another cam :)05:18
SpAwNshould it be hex or acii or w.e it is05:18
zblachand what're you doing using wep anyways? wap or radius is the way to go05:18
zblachenter it in hex05:18
Bearcathas anyone ever set up CUPS in kubuntu before. I/we are going a little mad here.05:18
SpAwNhmm well i tried using wep05:18
CapNemoSpAwN: on my wifi router i have put 123456789 and on my laptop 123456789 also as well .. nothing complicated :)05:18
Kr4t05CapNemo: But, I don't want to! :< I shouldn't have to form my life around my PC, I should be able to form my PC around my life! That's why I started using Linux to begin with.05:19
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NerevarOK05:19
CapNemoKr4t05: sorry this is the real world down here ;)05:19
SpAwNCapNemo, yea i know it shouldnt be hard.....i just think somthing wasnt quit right...05:19
Kr4t05:<05:19
NerevarSo I installed Kubuntu ... and i think it said i have broadcom 5300 for a wireless card05:19
Nerevarwirelss chip05:19
DFMSpawn: I am a little late in responding but I use a dlink wifi and a linksys router.05:19
NerevarOn my linksys wireless g card05:19
CapNemoBearcat: I have to configure mine, perhaps i can help you05:20
SpAwNi have both linksys card and router05:20
DFMLike they said just use the first key for wep and you should be fine05:20
NerevarAnywyas...  From what I hear you need to install NDISWrapper but im not sure how05:20
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NerevarI tried using Agent or whatever to install it, and it couldnt contact the net and i didnt know how to add the CD05:20
Bearcatfoot: do you have an /dev/usb/lp0 ?05:20
apallo27is it normal for xorg to take 256+ megs of ram?05:20
SpAwNwell i have other option in my router...is there a better easier one?05:21
NerevarBut I have a bigger problem... I installed kubuntu and it didnt seem to install grub05:21
SpAwN...i dont know much about diff kinds of wireless protection05:21
trappistapallo27: sometimes ram consumed by gui apps is shown as being used by X05:21
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Bearcatfoot: ls /dev/usb/lp005:21
NerevarAfter i completed the install, it booted right back into windows05:21
NerevarIt didnt give me the grub menu05:21
CapNemoBearcat: yes the same05:21
trappistapallo27: like, sometimes killing firefox or something will fix a situation like that05:21
Bearcatls /dev/lp005:22
NerevarShouldnt grub pop up when you boot05:22
apallo27firefox isn't running...05:22
Nerevar?05:22
trappistapallo27: just an example05:22
apallo27ahh05:22
SpAwNallright im gona go try this once more....b4 my borhter goes to bed and i have no axx to the router05:22
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trappistapallo27: also, some apps (notably gimv) don't clean up well after themselves, and the longer you use it, the more ram X eats until you restart X05:22
Nerevarhow does grub work? doesnt it pop up when you boot?05:22
BearcatCapNemo: what?05:22
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SpAwNoh what is the best way to set eh wep.....systemsettings...or the kde wireless assistance thing?05:23
CapNemoBearcat: one moment.. im connecting the printer to usb port05:23
Bearcatfoot: echo "hello" > /dev/lp005:23
apallo27nevarar, it doesn't pop up with a menu if you don't have any other operating systems installed05:23
DFMnerevar: If you installed correctly it should05:23
BearcatCapNemo: thank you05:23
trappistSpAwN: kwifimanager05:23
DFMthat to05:23
SpAwNtrappist, k thanks05:23
NDPTAL85Isn't it KNetworkManager?05:23
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footroot@Hermes:~# echo "hello" > /dev/lp005:25
CapNemoBearcat: i just got a device named : /dev/usblp0 and not /dev/usb/lp005:25
Nerevaranyone knows if grub menu should appear at boot?05:25
apallo27nevrar: it won't if you only have kubuntu installed05:25
Nerevari have kubutntu and xp05:26
NerevarI just installed kubuntu, but05:26
CapNemoBearcat: i just went now to http://localhost:631/admin and the interface propose me to add the printer just connected05:26
Kr4t05CapNemo: This camera did work with Breezy, once upon a time, but that was awhile ago.05:26
NerevarIt didn't give me a menu when i booted up05:26
Nerevarwhat gives?05:26
Ash-Fox!xgl05:26
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:26
apallo27nevarar, if you won't listen to anyone, why should they help you?05:27
Kr4t05CapNemo: And, as you could guess, downgrading is not something I'd want to do.05:27
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BearcatCapNemo: that's what we've been doign. However using both the kcontrol center and the http interface, he gets permission denied errors when installing as "root" or his user with su privilages at least. Ideas?05:27
NerevarI listened05:28
apallo27then why do you keep asking?05:28
CapNemoBearcat: then i cant finalize the connect because it asked for a root passwd .. no root passwd on ubuntu .. thats ducky05:28
BearcatCapNemo: yeah! See? Now what the fsk do we do?05:28
Kr4t05!vmware05:28
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:28
Nerevarbecause the responses weren't helping05:28
Nerevarrebooting05:29
christianhave you thought of setting a root password?05:29
CapNemoBearcat: let me look at the cups config file .. its really stupid05:29
apallo27nerevar: check out the menu.lst file in /root/grub/05:30
CapNemoBearcat: i think i have to add my user to the group "lpadmin" and it will work05:30
BearcatCapNemo: thank you for the help so far05:32
CapNemoBearcat: sorry not working :) still looking at this config file :)05:33
CapNemoor i should log out05:35
footBearcat: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.05:35
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CapNemorhaa05:37
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nils_hello05:44
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nils_anyways quick question...my audio doesn't seem to be working at all...ive been testing it with mp3's which i know dont work in kubuntu however ive installed the codecs and such but no audio is coming out of the speakers05:45
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CapNemoBearcat: rhaa i will soon remove the require in the file ...05:46
nils_did anyone read my last message?05:47
maltaethironi did05:47
maltaethironand i have that same problem on an old pc i installed kubuntu on05:47
nils_score you win a virtual ice cream sunday lol05:47
nils_this ones 9 years old...still pretty good htough...1.8 ghz processer 6600gt nvidia good soundcard so idk whats up05:48
maltaethironhmm05:48
maltaethironi actually havent tried to troubleshoot my own problem05:48
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footBearcat: fone died05:49
nils_well how do u configure which soundcard u use...or audio device in kubuntu05:49
Bearcatfoot: my battery is low too05:49
maltaethironyeah, havent figured out that one yet05:49
footBearcat: ok attempting to transfer05:49
nils_gosh darn05:49
irrelevantSystem Settings -> Sound & Multimedia05:49
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nils_but like it doesnt allow you to chooose...or at least that had no effect on my problem05:50
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footBearcat: access denied05:51
footBearcat: but to the source fiule.05:51
footBearcat: hang on a sec05:51
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SpAwNhehe yea somthing isnt right.......i cant set encryption and connect to it05:52
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Bearcatfoot: brb05:53
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footBearcat: it starts the transfer but then access denied to lovely, the owner is lovely, the group is lovely, and I can view and modify. what the flapjacks is going on?05:53
SpAwNi used wep.....set a password....tried everysingle key it gave me........nothing i tried kwifimanger and systemsettings and the other kde monitor...i think its called kwlan somthing05:54
CapNemoBearcat: ok i have succeeded to add a printer by removing the limits and putting only localhost access ... but that's still ducky05:54
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CapNemoyess its printing :)05:56
CapNemopfff the cupd.conf in ubuntu is really messed up05:56
BearcatCapNemo: thank you. I tell you this sudo-no root stuff really set my hackles up. I'm so used to working as root, that i find it all very strange05:56
CapNemoim comparing the file to the archlinux one05:56
actinicnils_, sound an issue with other distros?05:56
SpAwNi did see this in the consol when i ran kwifimandager http://pastebin.ulteo.us/6705:58
Bearcatfoot: O.o05:58
Bearcatfoot: oh05:58
CapNemoSpAwN: have you configured your wifi with iwconfig ?05:58
footBearcat: yes?05:58
Bearcatfoot: can you even create a directory on that drive?05:59
CapNemoSpAwN: are you sure that wlan0 is the correct device ?05:59
SpAwNCapNemo, well i tried to use iwconfig wlan0 key andiputkeyhere05:59
foottrying, it is owned by root, so that is the dificulty05:59
SpAwNCapNemo, yes wlan0 is defiantlythe right one05:59
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Bearcatfoot: ahh, can you change the owner?06:00
spazzHow do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174806:00
footBearcat: trying to get it to mount06:00
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footI cant reset the permissoins from the  system steeings06:01
spazz.......... everyone dead?06:01
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CapNemospazz: have you used like apt-get said : apt-get -f install ?06:02
Bearcatfoot: can you load the konqueror app as root?06:02
footBearcat: just a sec06:02
DelphinusJust did a clean install of Dapper, and when booting get the following error: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup"06:02
aevaughnIs giving Konqueror root permissions a good idea???06:03
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Delphinusgoogle finds this http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#fix-vfat-mount as a fix06:03
Delphinusbut i'm curious what the actual problem is?06:03
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Bearcataevaughn: as long as you are carefull yes. I do it all the time. But i've been using linux for 7 years06:03
SpAwNwhen i use cli to set the key i get this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/6806:03
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aevaughnBearcat: That does make a difference!06:03
Bearcataevaughn: lol06:04
CapNemoaevaughn:  using root is not a good thing to do when you go on the net ... but as said Bearcat be carreful06:04
footI just added the root group to lovely's secondary groups06:04
footBearcat: ok konqueror as root06:05
CapNemoaevaughn: why do need the root for konq ?06:05
Bearcatfoot: lol, that;s kinda wierd, but at this point, if it works06:05
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spazzI tried the -f install deal. Still broken.06:06
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174906:06
spazzlook ...06:06
footBearcat: ok as root I am able to copy the files over to the hexternal drive06:06
Bearcatfoot: hexternal O.o Bite your tounge!06:07
CapNemospazz: let me see06:08
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footBearcat: fruedian slip06:08
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2174906:08
CapNemospazz: i suggest you to remove the files from the cache06:09
Bearcathey foot, let's take the rest of this private. I'm going to help you create a jabber account. This is a free open source alternative to msn, icq etc. Alright?06:09
footBearcat: ok06:09
spazzSo just delete everything in /var/cache/archives/ ?06:09
Bearcatfoot: look under "internet" probably and look for a program called kopete06:10
footBearcat: ok06:10
CapNemospazz: nooo, use : apt-get clean06:10
spazzoh .. sudo apt-get clean is all?06:11
CapNemoyup06:11
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spazzits frozen now lol06:11
Bearcatfoot: in the menu select Settings..Confugure06:11
Bearcatfoot: you should see "Here You Can Manage All Your Accounts"06:12
CapNemospazz: apt-get clean returns nothing to the screen06:12
CapNemojust remove the files06:12
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spazzit just dropped me to another prompt06:12
spazzremove those specific files, or all of them in that folder?06:13
footBearcat: I havent opened it before. so it is asking me which to connect to06:13
Bearcatis there a create new option or something?06:13
CapNemospazz: i told you : apt-get clean just remove the files in the cache and return the prompt .. nothing is displayed06:14
CapNemonow try again apt-get -f install06:14
spazzok06:14
footBearcat: create new jabber acount. what server?06:14
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spazzdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:14
spazzi tried doing what it said06:15
spazzand it told me "dkpg : command not found "06:15
spazzhold on...06:15
CapNemodpkg06:15
spazzyea jsut realized that06:15
Bearcatfoot: jabber.org06:15
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Bearcatfoot: you can make your username Bigfoot, i bet you will be the only one.06:15
spazznow i have new errors06:15
Bearcatfoot: you can leave the port as-in06:16
footso Inch of cannot conect to x server06:16
spazzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2175006:16
Bearcatfoot: what?06:16
spazzSo what does that mean? I have to install libcroco3?06:17
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CapNemospazz: have you recently update your packages list with apt-get update ?06:17
spazzyea06:17
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Ash-FoxHow do I reload KDE's menus without logging in and out?06:18
footBearcat: well it did open but I got a whoole lot of stuff unable to conect with or open the x server06:18
actinic220 in this room and 5 peeps talkin, lol06:18
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CapNemospazz:try this : apt-get install libcroco306:18
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pacmanthere's a webpage that I can't find...it lists a TON of games that I can apt-get install06:18
pacmananyone know what I"m talking about06:18
Ash-Foxpacman, add/remove programs ?06:18
actinicpacman, it isn't msn.com is it?  :)06:19
pacmanno06:19
spazzmaybe that worked...06:19
pacmanI believe it was a Kubuntu page, but i don't remember06:19
CapNemospazz: "maybe" ??!06:19
Ash-Foxpacman, well, there is a huge list of games there under the games category06:19
spazzyea, now it works. its installing the wacom package i wanted now.06:20
actinicmaybe loki installers?06:20
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DaSkreechactinic: He yhey hey :)06:20
footBearcat: fourcats06:20
DaSkreech!games06:21
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:21
actinichey DaSkreech06:21
DaSkreechpacman: There you go06:21
Bearcatfoot: oh. That's ok06:21
DaSkreechlnxkde: Was just looking for you How are you?06:21
actiniccheck this list too: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=606:21
footBearcat: but they smell06:21
Bearcatfoot: do you have a little lightbub icon in the kopete window now?  At the botttom of the app window?06:21
lnxkdeDaSkreech: good thankx to Fod06:21
lnxkdeGod*06:21
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lnxkdeDaSkreech: you?06:22
BearcatPraise Be to Fod!!06:22
footBearcat: I am attempting to sign on to jabber06:22
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DaSkreechlnxkde: I was trying to figure out if that was God Gof or Food :)06:22
CapNemospazz: happy to see its woirking :)06:22
lnxkdelol06:23
pacmandaskreech: close, but no cigar...thanks though06:23
spazzlol06:23
spazzhmm kate wont open xorg.conf06:23
DaSkreechdamn06:23
spazzrunning konq as root06:23
spazzkdesu konqueror06:23
spazzKDEinit could not launch 'kate'06:23
pacmanthere was a game I wanted06:24
pacmanit was a soccer management game06:24
Ash-FoxWhy can't you just search for it?06:24
pacmanor football managment, depending on what corner of the world you're it06:24
pacmanI don't remember the name of it06:24
irrelevantbygfoot?06:24
pacmanthank you...that's it06:25
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spazzHow do I CD to a directory?06:25
Bearcathey pacman, have you found any decent pacman clones out there for linux? I can't belive i can't find one06:25
spazzI tried cd /ect/X11/06:25
spazzbut it didnt work06:25
lnxkdeDaSkreech:  so whats up?06:25
pacmanBearcat: I haven't really looked06:25
DaSkreechHIrricane tomorrow06:25
Bearcatspazz: you may have to sudo that command06:25
DaSkreechWell in a few hours06:25
Ash-Foxspazz, now try cd /etc/X1106:26
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spazznow it just says command not found06:26
irrelevantcd won't work with sudo...06:26
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irrelevantdid you try '$ kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?06:27
spazznope. i will tho06:27
spazzwhat does the $ do?06:27
irrelevantjust showing the normal user prompt06:27
irrelevant'$ ' normal user '# ' root06:27
Bearcatfoot: you still alive out there?06:28
footBearcat: almost06:28
Bearcatlol06:28
Bearcatfoot: are you signed on?06:28
footI think so06:28
Bearcatwhat username?06:28
footfooters06:29
footBearcat: I imagine you are bearcat06:29
CapNemoBearcat: if you hate sudo .. then use : sudo bash :)06:29
spazzwhat does all this mean ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2175106:29
CapNemoi managed my ubuntu like that06:29
Bearcatfoot: yeah, but i run my own Jabber server. So you'll need to add me as bearcat@jabber.feline-soul.net06:30
spazzWhat is sudo bash?06:30
BearcatCapNemo: well, i do not' use kubunto anyway. I'm just helping foot here06:30
CapNemoand on archlinux just a regular su - :)06:30
CapNemospazz: guess :) !06:31
spazzi .. cant guess, i have no idea06:31
DaSkreechspazz: That means you have a default Xconfig06:31
CapNemospazz: you dont know what is sudo ?06:31
spazzI dont know what sudo BASH means06:32
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CapNemospazz: sudo launch a process with the root id .. and bash is the shell .. so you have a shell with the root id ..that's all06:33
Bearcatlater folks. I'm off06:33
spazzOh. So bash isnt a command for sudo or something? Just .. bash means the terminal being run as root?06:33
Bearcatthanx for the help CapNemo06:33
CapNemoBearcat: youre welcome :)06:34
CapNemospazz: no bash is a program like cp, ls , and so on06:34
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CapNemospazz: i just told you that sudo launch a program with the root id06:35
spazzoh.06:35
spazzSo what is bash used for?06:35
CapNemospazz: have you launch a terminal already ?06:36
spazzyea.06:36
spazzim in one now about to see if i can apt-get inkscape06:36
spazzprogram for my graphics tablet.06:36
CapNemobash is the program launching the tasks you ask in the terminal06:36
spazzThere is a command to search the apt-get archives in the terminal isnt there?06:36
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irrelevant'$ apt-cache search inkscape'06:37
spazzhey it found it lol06:37
irrelevantactually, that's a pretty specific search... you can do '$ apt-cache showpkg inkscape' for details06:38
spazzWhat bittorent client do you like the best?06:38
spazzktorrent is the worst app ive ever used06:38
lnxkdesomeone can help me making some filecharing with my 2 kubuntu mashines?06:38
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CapNemommm why konqueror is creating so much kio_http processes and never kill them !!! the cpu is running for nothing .. any idea ?06:39
CapNemolnxkde: use sftp :)06:39
lnxkdeCapNemo : hum?06:40
lnxkde*^%#* nevermind , I gived my router to my GF .....06:40
lnxkdethey need it more on their hause...06:40
spazzWhat is the best way to get Java?06:41
lnxkdebut I need to pass 10gig of things from one PC to another....06:41
spazzApt-get or from their website? and do it manually06:41
spazzheard java is buggy06:41
lnxkdeapt-get06:41
spazztheres 2 diff versions isnt there06:41
CapNemospazz: apt-get install sun-java5-jre06:41
lnxkdesun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin06:42
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CapNemoand sun-java5-jdk to develop in java06:42
CapNemolnxkde: then use ftp to pass those files06:42
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spazzsaid it couldnt find it06:43
_bbeckHave people played trackballs before, I just found out about it, and it's really fun.06:43
lnxkdeCapNemo : I dont know how...06:43
spazzI will brb - going to see if my tablet works. Have to logout of X and log back in heh, woo.06:44
robinhola06:44
CapNemolnxkde: install pure-ftpd on the pc who wants to share its file .. start it .. then connect from the other via ftp06:44
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lnxkdeCa : I can do that even without a rauter I just hook the eth cable from one PC to aniother?06:46
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CapNemolnxkde: yup you can link the two pc together but you need the crossed ethernet cable06:47
CapNemo-the +a06:47
lnxkdeCapNemo:  I got one :D06:47
CapNemothen youre good06:47
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lnxkdeCapNemo: ok I installed the ftpd06:48
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lnxkdeI must run and configure something?06:48
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CapNemolnxkde: usually just launch the service06:49
lnxkdeand I just do ftp://ip?06:49
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CapNemolnxkde: usually its more : ftp://username@hostname06:50
DaSkreechlnxkde: Two Linux machines?06:51
lnxkdeyep06:51
DaSkreech:-p06:51
DaSkreechsftp06:51
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DaSkreechYou have ssh access?06:52
CapNemosftp too slow06:52
CapNemofor large amount of file06:52
CapNemofiles06:52
DaSkreech:-(06:52
CapNemoftp or rsync06:52
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trprhrm. i installed knetworkmanager / network-manager, but it tells me no network device found. am i missing a configuration step or something?06:52
trprthe man file tells me how it works. it makes it sound like it should set itself up :\06:52
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CapNemotrpr: im not sure that networkmanager is working well in fact ;)06:53
CapNemoit never worked for me06:54
trprCapNemo: hrm. what do you suggest? i can't stand kwifimanager06:54
nonicknameis there a replacement for symlink here?06:54
trprwhich is what i was using up till now :\06:54
zeronenoreza small question :how to add Termminal to my right click06:54
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nonicknameactually, nevermind06:55
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pierrethgood night06:59
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dbgltdoes anyone know how I mark a track as part of a compilation in amarok?07:03
zeronenorezbig boy all went to sleep :<07:04
irrelevantyou can save a playlist07:04
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irrelevantzeronenorez: if you use a terminal all the time, 'apt-get install yakuake' installs a Quake-like drop-down console07:07
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zeronenorezirrelevant, oh so much thanks07:07
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trprheh. oh i see. according to this faq, if i want to use network manager, i can't list my network device in /etc/network/interfaces, due to debian specific modifications :\07:09
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zeronenorezirrelevant,must i restart my X-windows?07:11
irrelevantno... might not show up in the menu right away... just hit Alt+F2 and type 'yakuake'07:12
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irrelevantthen F12 to use07:12
zeronenorezirrelevant, perfect windows,great thanks ,will it autostart when i log in?07:14
spazzanyone use youtube?07:15
irrelevantnot automagically... you can either put in the autostart directory or save a session07:15
spazz??07:17
zeronenorezirrelevant, dude, say detailly :->07:17
spazzHEY07:19
spazzanyone ALIVE?07:19
spazzHOLA07:19
spazz...07:19
irrelevantI think if you put '.desktop' files in '~/.kde/Autostart' it will bring it up07:19
spazzyoutube choppy as hell07:20
spazzflash07:20
spazzargh!!!!!!!!!07:20
DaSkreech:-)07:20
nonicknameokay.. i have a computer with no cd-rom or floppy drive.. but it does have a network card, and the bios has a network boot option.. any suggestions?07:20
irrelevantI'm quite lazy, so I just have KDE startup on a saved session07:20
DaSkreechI'm surprised you even got it to work07:20
DaSkreechnonickname: Debian?07:20
nonicknameno kubuntu?07:20
DaSkreechspazz: Isn't Youtube falsh 8 now?07:20
DaSkreechnonickname: It should be possible. I never tried it07:21
spazzI dunno. But I have videos with sound working in WINE on firefox07:21
DaSkreechFlash07:21
spazzwith windows Flash07:21
DaSkreechAh ok07:21
spazz.. but its choppy.07:21
nonicknameheh07:21
spazzWonder what the easiest way to get it working right would be..07:21
noiesmowine + firefox 4 windows + windows flash 9 works for metacafe.com and youtube spazz07:21
nonicknamemy problem is that i just now found out that the install livecd doesnt have a 'pxelinux.0' file07:21
zeronenorezirrelevant, how to make session07:22
nonicknamenot in a netboot folder, anyhow07:22
spazznoiesmo: eh i have all that installed. its choppy as crap though.07:22
spazzhow do i fix it?07:22
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zeronenorezirrelevant, i'm in gnome what can i do?07:23
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noiesmospazz, k, just tried a clip from metacafe and yeah it's choppy hmm wasnt like that07:24
spazzSOME videos seem to work pretyt smooth07:25
spazzsigh. they need to hurry up and release flash 9 for linux07:25
irrelevantoh... I figured you were using KDE... not positive about Gnome... try System -> Preferences -> Sessions07:25
spazzheard that its stable now. just they are adding some more features or something07:25
spazzwonder if theres a beta out there i can get.07:25
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irrelevanthttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/08/coarse_detail.html07:26
office_!vnc07:26
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.07:26
erovthey do.. need to release flash9 but wine/firefox is fine for if i NEED to.07:26
spazzBah. Youtube is my ANTI-BOREDOM lol.07:27
spazzThere's absolutely nothing to do on the internet anymore.07:27
nonicknamelol07:27
nonicknamei didn't find youtube very amusing =(07:27
spazzYou just havent found the right videos.07:27
erovkonqueror and youtube have worked fine07:27
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SpAwNspazz, u cant watch videos on youtube?07:28
erovonly go to the other for google video or something specifically using flash907:28
spazzI am right now, its just the playback is shitty as hell. Real choppy.07:28
zeronenorezirrelevant, where you study this? I mean how to study Linux,I want to be a professional Linux User.07:28
SpAwNahh07:28
SpAwNtry install the totem-xine-firefox plugin thinggy07:28
spazzLOL zeronenorez ...... let me know what you have accomplished that.07:28
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Tobias41hi all07:28
spazzSpAwN: that work for you?07:29
zeronenorezirrelevant,and i don't want to interrupe others i want to learn myself07:29
trprzeronenorez: probably cis... being a professional computer user is a business field07:29
nonickname=(07:29
SpAwNspazz, yea they play fine for me07:29
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erovhere as well07:29
zeronenoreztrpr:that's my poor english level problem :<07:30
irrelevantzenonenorez : I'd say poke around and explore... google when you're curious... lots of Linux sites have great tips here and there07:30
spazzcouldnt find the plugin. Hmm.07:30
spazzMaybe I need to add repos.07:30
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zeronenorezirrelevant, give me some u use ;>07:31
irrelevantlinux.com has this CLI series... http://enterprise.linux.com/search.pl?tid=8907:31
zeronenorezspazz, I'm studying every day!07:31
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spazzI dont study it. I just USE it. Usually have errors or something, so I have to figure out what does what and why its broken for the 18th time .07:32
spazz... anyways.07:32
trprzeronenorez: this is a nice book, http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz07:37
erov:+07:37
erovk07:37
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zeronenorezall, nice07:37
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JuNkPhreakHI all07:37
zeronenorezI will study hard make Ubuntu eat microsoft07:37
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zeronenoreztrpr,more? <i'm freshman> is there any easy book for me?07:37
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Tobias41yesterday I installed kubuntu, and met several problems with it. How should I set my package manager to be able to download programs like mc for example...? I downloaded the skype.deb and was not able to install, giving some errors of the required program is not in the path, altough it started the Ark program... Can anybody help me?07:37
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JuNkPhreakanyone here using wlassistant for there wireless ?07:37
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zeronenorezTobias41, go wiki of ubuntu07:38
Tobias41what about mc?07:42
zeronenorezi don't know that07:42
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irrelevantTobais41: I think automatix takes care of Skype... is 'mc' midnight commander?07:42
spazzWTF! its not letting me CD anywhere!07:42
JuNkPhreakhaving problem on boot to get auto connected to wireless with out opening the wlassistant and getting online07:42
Tobias41yes i mean midnight commander.07:42
irrelevantspazz: are you trying to 'sudo cd'?07:42
spazzno just cd07:42
spazzLike, I am in the / folder07:42
spazzI want to go to /ect/apt/07:42
spazzSo, I type in cd /ect/ and it takes me there.07:42
spazzbut i try cd /apt/ and it wont let me07:42
irrelevantetc not ect07:42
spazzsaid no file...........err. oh. crap. heh07:42
spazzAlrite, what is the command to cd to the root folder from anywhere?07:42
Tobias41cd /07:42
zeronenorezspazz,try :sude cd apt07:42
irrelevantTobias41: if you just want a split screen file browser, Konqueror can do that... hit Ctrl + Shift + L07:42
irrelevantor View -> Split Screen07:42
spazzdamnit, its not working.07:42
irrelevantspazz: '$ cd /etc/apt'07:42
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spazzIt refuses.07:42
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spazzsays no such file07:42
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spazzand i SEE IT. RIGHT. THERE.07:42
spazzit wont let me in though.07:43
Tobias41i just want to how to use those old well working small tools we are used to, and why I can not use them anymore. Why they are not part of the distrib anymore? Or how can I install them07:43
D4rklyhas anyone tried building cedega from source ? i think source from cvs is free ?07:43
Tobias41I also tried aptitude, but it didn't find either07:43
spazzHmm. Strange.07:44
Tobias41is adept the official package manager of ubuntu<07:44
spazzI closed out that terminal, opened a new one, and tried cd /etc/apt/ and it worked this time. wtf.07:44
Tobias41?07:44
irrelevantyou might have to enable some sources... try '$ apt-cache search mc'07:44
irrelevantI can see it in my repositories07:45
Tobias41how does dapper relate to sarge?07:45
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D4rklysh cvschroot -d <path to your tree> :pserver:cvs@cvs.transgaming.org:/cvsroot winex ? is <path to your tree> where i want to download cvs files to ?07:48
Babble_hi: I've just installed Firefox using Adept, but it seems to have grabbed some Gnome dependencies (my Open/Save dialogs in Firefox look like Gnome instead of KDE); is there an easy way to get Firefox to use the KDE dialogs instead?07:48
LeeJunFanhehe, while working on a win machine I guess it's safe to say there's a rootkit when netstat says the kernel itself is accessing about a dozen hosts on the internet.07:49
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irrelevantTobais41: sarge is the stable one I think... I think dapper sort of comes from etch, more up-to-date...07:50
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Tobias41thank you07:50
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irrelevantBabble_: firefox uses GTK, so it's dialogs will look like Gnome even if you don't have it... there's an option about using KDE styles for GTK apps in System Setting -> Appearance -> GTK styles and fonts07:52
irrelevantbut it seems to only do a half-assed job07:52
Babble_ooooh, lemme look (thanks very much!)07:52
Babble_half-assed I can live with. hehe.07:53
irrelevantall I notice is that it turns the dialog backgrounds white07:53
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spazzcant find totem-xine-firefox plugin07:54
spazzhave all repos enabled07:54
spazzarghhhhh07:54
Babble_hum. I already have "Use my KDE theme..." enabled. Oh well.07:55
irrelevant'totem-xine-firefox-plugin'07:55
Babble_thanks tho :)07:55
spazzoh.07:55
crypthey spazz do you have automatix07:55
spazz... no, i heard to avoid it like the plague07:55
spazzcuz it breaks stuff07:55
D4rklyhow do i remove a dir and all files i use rmdir but it says directory not empty ?07:55
spazzi have used it before07:55
HawkwindD4rkly: rm -r07:56
D4rklyk cool :)07:56
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arepiewhat does this mean --> agpgart: Consider rebooting with iommu=memaper=2 to get a good aperture.08:03
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D4rklyanyone want to help get cedega running from source08:07
D4rklycvs source is free08:08
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Jucatoare the wiki and help pages down?08:12
D4rklyi just checkout from cvs and ran configure08:13
D4rklythem make08:13
D4rklywill this work with directx games ?08:13
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maltaethironyo yo, how do i go about playing avi files in kafeine?08:13
office_it is there any VNC programcompatible with windows vnc?08:13
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tkrapil?08:14
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office_i want to connect to one computer with windows vnc08:15
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Jucatomaltaethiron: you need to have the "libxine-extracodecs" package installed08:16
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maltaethironty jucato08:16
spazzyoutube video playback isnt choppy08:16
spazz... just out of sync with audio now!08:16
spazzargh.08:16
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maltaethironjucato: will that cover mpeg as well?08:18
irrelevantoffice_: does this work for you? http://www.tightvnc.com/08:18
Jucatomaltaethiron: yep. it covers mostly everything except WMA/WMV, Real Media, and Quick Time08:19
maltaethironok, and those im already fine with, thanks08:20
maltaethironwait, except quicktime08:20
Jucatomaltaethiron: quick time should be covered by the w32codecs08:20
maltaethironoh ok08:20
spazzJucato: Hey, have any idea how I can make Flash playback work better? Video is smooth, but audio is like not sync'd with the video.08:22
maltaethironsame here spazz08:22
Jucatospazz: I actually have the same problem on a few flash vids08:22
spazzCan't seem to find an answer.08:22
spazzIt's so irritating. Wonder if I can find a copy of the new Flash 9 beta.08:22
spazzHere it'08:23
spazzis stable.08:23
maltaethironthe only thing i want to work smoothly is homestar runner08:23
spazzI want youtube to work smoothly08:23
spazz...just flash in general loll08:23
maltaethironi wish there was flash 8 or 9 for linux08:24
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Jucatoehehehe08:24
Jucatokeep on wishing....08:24
spazzThere is... flash 8.5 but that is considered 9. heh.08:24
irrelevantspazz: seems like some people have had some luck here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22672.html08:25
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spazz... youre crazy!08:25
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spazz*slap*08:25
spazz... argh, how do you do the .. * deal?08:25
maltaethironheheh08:25
trappistmaltaethiron: I read today that flash 9 for linux is fully functional, just needs more testing before release08:25
spazzyea, i read that on digg.com08:25
maltaethironoh reaallly08:26
maltaethironahh see..i would have read that too, but i got back from vacation with no internet a little while ago08:26
maltaethironim always on digg though08:26
maltaethironmost of the time08:26
spazzThey are saying, a release shouldn't be far away.08:26
maltaethirongood08:26
maltaethiron!seen lynoure08:27
ubotuLynoure is on IRC right now!08:27
trappistmaltaethiron: yeah this was on digg08:27
maltaethironvery cool....soon the day will come where i can visit newgrounds on my lappy!08:27
trappistmaltaethiron: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/08/coarse_detail.html08:28
maltaethironthanks08:28
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spazzwtf08:34
maltaethironwhat wtf?08:34
spazzi dont have /etc/mozilla-firefox/08:35
spazzand i have it installed.....08:35
JucatoI can visit newgrounds on my desktop...08:35
Jucatoneither do I08:35
spazzThat's what it's saying to go to, to edit this file on this website.08:35
Jucatospazz: have you looked for /etc/firefox/ ?08:35
spazzFIREFOX_DSP can be set to "arts". Try changing /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc and see if that setting works.08:35
spazzthat's .. a quote.08:35
Jucato /etc/firefox/firefoxrc08:36
spazzfoudn it08:36
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B4zzAanyone know how to configure kubuntu to use a proxy for connections (excluding apt)08:38
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vltHello. Yestersday I burnt an Audio-CD(RW) with k3b 0.12.14 (ubuntu 6.06) and an HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10A JL02 (/dev/hdd). Now I want to erase and reuse the disk but I get en error message: "Found Media: CD-ROM, please insert writable ...". Wtf does this mean?08:39
spazzhow do i see a list of running proceesses?08:40
spazzprocesses?08:40
trappistspazz: ps aux08:41
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Jucato[Eating] (or Ctrl+Esc)08:41
spazzhooray. GUI interface lol08:41
spazzthanks08:41
Jucato[Eating] :-D08:41
trappistB4zzA: some apps you configure directly for the proxy, like firefox.  others respect the HTTP_PROXY environment variable08:41
nonicknamehow do i tell which audio drivers are enabled?08:41
B4zzAoh ok08:43
B4zzAtrappist08:43
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B4zzAhow do i set that variable?08:43
spazzDEATH. TO. FLASH ON LINUX.08:43
spazz( kills over )08:43
trappistB4zzA: export HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy.server:port08:43
vltAny idea how to erase a CD-RW (on kubuntu 6.06)?08:44
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irrelevantvlt: K3B -> Tools -> Erase CD-RW08:45
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dhqhow do i configure wifi in kubuntu08:46
vltirrelevant: Thanks. That tells me: "Found Media: CD-ROM, please insert writable disk ..."08:46
vltirrelevant: The CD-RW I try to erase I burnt yeserday with k3b ...08:46
irrelevantvlt: hmm... you sure it's a re-writable?... got the right drive selected?08:47
spazztest08:47
spazz*tes08:47
spazzargh.08:47
vltirrelevant: Yes. It was my kubuntu 6.06 install disk until I erased it yesterday with k3b.08:47
irrelevantvlt: you already erased it?08:49
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D4rklyim using rmdir -r and it says --r invalid option ?08:49
spazzL M F A O look at this video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLGsEErWJY&NR08:49
spazzthat wouldsuck08:49
vltirrelevant: Yep. Yesterday it worked. Then I burnt it, now I want to burn again and erase before but it doesn't accept the media. Burning was fine (and readable) ...08:49
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fyyrest0rmhi guys..quick question (i hope)..trying to get a friend hooked on kubunty (i'm kinda a noob myself)..we've both got external usb hdd's..when i plug mine in it mounts, etc etc. His tells him "only root can mount"..both using kubuntu/kde. Any suggestions?08:50
irrelevantd4rkly: try 'rm -r'08:50
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D4rklyok08:51
trappistD4rkly: rmdir means rm -r.  so -r is redundant for rmdir08:51
D4rklyah ok :)08:51
vltAnyone knowing how to erase my CD-RW, again?08:53
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trappistvlt: try sudo cdrecord -blank=fast -dev=/dev/cdrom (or whatever your device is)08:53
trappistor is it 'blank=fast' without the -08:54
fyyrest0rmanyone? lol08:55
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pointwoodhi guys08:55
trappistfyyrest0rm: it should only say that if he's trying to mount it manually as a mortal user08:55
unix_infidelhey trappist  :)08:55
fyyrest0rmhe's THIS close to giving up and I don't want him to do that08:55
trappistfyyrest0rm: and if he's doing that he just needs to say 'sudo' first08:55
trappistunix_infidel08:55
pointwoodsitting here in a new kubuntu install - is it safe to update X?08:56
fyyrest0rmtrappist: the issue is that on my system, it just mounts..period when i plug it in08:56
fyyrest0rmtrappist: yes, he can sudo to mount it, but how to get it to mount on its own when plugged in like mine does though?08:56
trappistpointwood: yes08:56
pointwoodthx08:56
trappistfyyrest0rm: the same device automounts on his but not yours?08:56
trappisterr vice versa08:56
trappistfyyrest0rm: or different (but similar) devices08:57
fyyrest0rmtrappist: depends on what you mean by "same device". I don't know the specifics of his drive (make, model etc) but both external usb hard drives08:57
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trappistfyyrest0rm: have him check the last 15 lines or so of dmesg, to see if the device is being properly recognized.08:58
fyyrest0rmok08:58
vlttrappist: cdrecord tells me: Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x008:58
fyyrest0rmtrappist: dont know if this makes a difference or not but he had his plugged in while installing and it added it to fstab, whereas mine is not?08:58
trappistvlt: cdrecord sounds pretty convinced that this is not a cdrw08:58
trappistfyyrest0rm: that very likely makes a difference.  remove it from fstab (shouldn't be there, unless it's always going to be plugged in)08:59
vlttrappist: I erased this CD-RW yesterday with k3b and burnt it then ... with THIS drive.08:59
irrelevantvlt: might just be an incompatible disc... poor quality maybe08:59
fyyrest0rmtrappist: had him do that..waiting for him to reboot to see if it worked09:00
trappistvlt: try 'blank=all' - the cdrecord man page says some media don't support all blanking types, but that 'all' should get it09:00
trappistfyyrest0rm: don't let him reboot with the drive connected :)09:00
vlttrappist: already tried this ...09:00
trappistvlt: sorry, I'm out of ideas then09:00
fyyrest0rmtrappist: correct..i told him to unplug it first09:00
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trappistfyyrest0rm: you know not to unplug it while it's mounted, right?09:01
fyyrest0rmtrappist: of course whether he did or not *shrug*..it took me 20 minutes to finally get it across to him that there WAS no root and that HE was superuser lol09:01
fyyrest0rmtrappist: yes09:01
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fyyrest0rmtrappist: although I've been known to do it on occasion with usb devices...what kinda damage could be done?09:02
vltirrelevant: I burnt and erased this CD-RW several times with Nero. The last iso I wrote was kubuntu 6.06 install. Then I erased it with k3b ... and now it's poor media quality?!?09:02
irrelevantvlt: you can only rewrite so many times09:03
trappistfyyrest0rm: write operations to usb media will report being done before they're really done, and you don't want to unplug while writing is still going on.  it won't umount until it's done, though, so once it's umounted it's safe to remove.09:03
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fyyrest0rmtrappist: ahh ok..but if it hasn't been written to its no biggie? These are ntfs drives so no writing to them anyway lol09:04
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trappistfyyrest0rm: I like to play it safe no matter what, but theoretically it should be fine, yeah09:04
fyyrest0rmtrappist: thanks for the info :)09:04
trappistnp... now I'm off to bed - gl with the usb goodness09:04
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vltirrelevant: I used this media 4 ior 5 cycles ... didn't know it was that little I can use it with linux ...09:05
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pointwoodtrappist: so, which one of the beers do you prefer? ;)09:06
Pizzakwiki,kubuntu.org is down?09:07
JucatoPizzak: yep09:07
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Pizzakok, thanks :)09:07
irrelevantvlt: I wouldn't blame "linux"... if you want reliability, don't use re-writables and burn as slow as you can stand... if you're going to insist on re-writables, spring for top quality09:08
vltirrelevant: So do you know what Nero does different?09:10
D4rklydoes anyone want to help me build cedega ?09:12
irrelevantvlt: not a clue... but since you're curious, the best thing to do would be to test it... try to erase and rewrite in Nero and see what happens... I do know K3B has acted up on me at times and have had luck restarting X09:12
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kev_Anybody have good experiences with acpi/power management on kubuntu?   I got issues :).09:18
kev_I scrapped klaptop because it would put me into an infinite suspend/resume loop, and would eventually shut down.09:19
kev_I tried kpowersave, and it doesn't quite come up all the way.09:20
kev_Anybody know any better ways to debug acpi problems?09:20
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vltirrelevant: Mmh. The last image I wrote with Nero was Kubuntu 6.06 install ... I leave it to yout imagination why I can't test with Nero anymore ... :(09:26
vlts/yout/your09:26
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irrelevantvlt: try testing K3B with another RW09:30
vltirrelevant: Ok. I'll try that.09:30
irrelevantI think I remember something about multisessions... http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=33914&pid=256944&st=0&#entry25694409:31
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irrelevantvlt: K3B might not have the best defaults... I know I burned an MP3 CD for my car and it wouldn't work, never really mucked around with it, though09:32
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deehello.09:32
irrelevantmight have been something about the CD-text... who knows... player was a POS09:33
deedid someone user kaffeine and dvb-utils ?09:33
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Mehercle'morning09:37
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Zooliegsmhello all09:41
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Zooliegsmi want to make flash movie/animation.....i had 3d flash animator on windows before i installed ubuntu....is there any similiar flashmaker for linux users? :)09:42
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aliasfrednot really09:43
aliasfredsome attemps exists tho09:43
aliasfredthe easiest thing is likely to run your stuff under wine09:43
aliasfred!wine09:43
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:43
zeronenorezhlds_l_1120_full.bin is that run in linux without wine?09:44
zeronenorezcould anyone tell me where could i download the half-life for wine?09:44
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Zooliegsmand any flash maker name that made for linux?09:44
aliasfredi dont remember :) let me look09:44
irrelevantzeronenorez: that's the dedicated server for HL2 linux09:45
aliasfredhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696 <- this is one09:45
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zeronenorezoh lol09:45
aliasfredin fact thats the only one im remember, im no flash expert tho09:45
Zooliegsmi tried this already :)09:46
Zooliegsmit wont fits my needs09:46
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zeronenorezaliasfred, do you know some half-life download link?09:46
QMarioAdmit it: do any of you guys sometimes write bad code? I know I sometimes do. :)09:46
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aliasfredzeronenorez: halflife site ? i dont know this game except the name09:47
irrelevantzeronenorez: you're best bet is probably Cedega... http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=2909:47
irrelevant*your*... getting late09:47
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zeronenorezmy windows half-life require me add cd key but i can't write in a word when i use wine tu run09:48
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zeronenorezirrelevant,  i need a free one09:49
zeronenorezdo you have?09:49
irrelevantzeronenorez: they have a 14-day demo... otherwise you can follow some howto's and do it yourself in Wine...09:52
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zeronenorezirrelevant, i can't :<09:53
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spazzazureus is a peice of shit09:54
pointwoodwhy?09:54
spazzI hate those stupid pop up that appear at the bottom of the screen.09:54
spazzTHen, when you click HIDE.09:54
aliasfredspazz: watch the language09:54
spazzIT DOESNT DO ANYTHING.  argh09:54
Jucatoand... we're back to the problem of finding the perfect bittorrent client for you... @_@09:55
spazzI think they all suck.09:55
pointwoodjust because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's bad - use something else then09:55
spazzGreat idea.09:55
spazzYoure smart.09:55
irrelevantspazz: I like Azureus just because it's full of info, but yeah, it's pretty clunky... Ktorrent just went to 2.0 recently and I think it works great09:55
spazz... i got the newest ktorrent09:56
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Jucatodon't mention KTorrent to spazz... ^_^09:56
spazzall it does is crash, its EXTREMELY slow.09:56
spazzlmfao.09:56
spazzKtorrent is the devil.09:56
aliasfredspazz is a calm constructive type :)09:56
spazzAzureus has I/O problems.09:56
spazzaliasfred: unless it involves computers. :D09:56
aliasfred:)09:57
pointwoodLOL @ aliasfred09:57
spazzSeriously this stupid box won't go away. It refuses.09:57
Jucatospazz: I'm not sure if the problem with KTorrent is the installation and/or some connection problems on your side09:57
irrelevanthaven't used it enough to crash it, but it's blazing fast... have you forwarded the ports in your router?09:57
spazzWell, I've installed it on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, on 2 diff laptops, and seperate fresh installs.09:57
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Jucatocoz KTorrent has only crashed a few times on me (purely my error) and it's fast...09:57
spazzI think it's just that the program is from Hell. lol.09:58
spazzI don't understand why it won't work for me...09:58
redondo81Hi to everyoneI have a problem with playing a dvd , when I lunch kaffein it says me an error : - No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:/)09:58
irrelevantit comes with a UPnP plugin, but it doesn't seem to do anything... if you open both the ports it specifies, it should be better09:58
spazzI'm not even behind a router.09:58
Jucatoheck I don't understand why it won't work for you either...09:58
redondo81The source can't be read09:58
redondo81Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/hdc)09:58
spazzHow do I make this Warning box go away?09:58
redondo81do you know why?09:58
irrelevanthmm... could just be the torrents, then... not enough people... some of them might require encryption... could try accepting more max connections09:59
spazzIt's not that ... cuz I had torrent (the SAME ones) working in utorrent under WINE09:59
pointwoodI think spazz is a nice pebkac example :p09:59
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spazzBut now WINE decides to explode and kill the internet. So. It doesnt work now.09:59
irrelevant;)09:59
spazz... wuzza pebkac? inside joke? what did i miss...10:00
redondo81Anyone can help me to play a dvd?10:00
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spazzCan't find bittornado. I installed it. But. No way to.. open it.10:00
irrelevanttry Alt+F2... then type the command name10:01
redondo81no one can help me10:01
spazzwont work10:02
irrelevantredondo81: have you installed everything you need?10:02
spazzbittornado is the command isnt it?10:02
redondo81I don't know what I need10:02
redondo81I have kaffeine10:02
redondo81and I have installed codec to play mpeg,avi10:02
redondo81wmv10:03
redondo81but I think not dvd10:03
olegI just moved to Kubuntu from gentoo due to the lack of free time. It seems that may applications are missing. Oper for example, flash (I used netscape-flash). Can anyone suggest repositories with more software?10:03
Jucatoit might be an encrypted DVD?10:03
irrelevantprobably need libdvdcss10:03
spazzazureus wont even OPEN! wtf...10:04
Jucatooleg: the "flashplugin-nonfree" is found in the "multiverse" component of Ubuntu's repositories10:04
spazzit opened a min ago. now it ... wont even bother trying.10:04
Jucatoyou just have to enable multiverse. Add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" where xx = us. or uk. or au., etc10:05
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redondo81I try to install libdvdcss but it cannot find it10:06
Healotthere isn't any, official10:06
Healotofficially10:06
Healotgoto VLC's site or grep that from debian repos10:06
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olegI have this: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse10:07
Admiral_Chicagois there a way i can reconfigure my sound system10:07
Jucatooleg: no not that10:07
olegand sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree cant find flashplugin-nonfree10:08
redondo81It's a problem of only a dvd (Alexander) other dvds are visible10:08
Healotsudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base10:08
olegok10:08
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, thanks i'll try it10:08
Admiral_ChicagoHealot, i can't try it now. i'm doing an apt-get update10:08
Healottry it when available10:08
spazzmight have found my bittorrent solution lol10:09
redondo81No one can tell me how to play a dvd film (Alexander) that should be encrypted?10:09
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irrelevantredondo81: you'll have to get it from a seperate repository... there's some legal issues...10:09
irrelevanttrying to find it... ubuntu wiki is down...10:10
irrelevantI know Automatix will install it for you10:10
Jucatooleg: you just have to enable multiverse. Add "multiverse" to this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" where xx = us. or uk. or au., etc10:10
Admiral_Chicagojust backup your sources.list10:10
Jucatooleg: or in your case "ca."10:10
redondo81Automatix10:10
redondo81?10:10
Admiral_Chicago!automatix10:10
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.10:10
Admiral_Chicagono link?10:11
Admiral_Chicagothats kinda cheap10:11
JucatoAutomatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/10:11
spazzdoesnt .. that break stuff?10:11
aliasfre1hmm do i smell some kind of competition betweenthe two :)10:11
spazzthat automatix script..10:12
_lupinepotentially it does ;)10:12
irrelevantredondo81: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix10:12
Jucatodepends really10:12
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Jucatoit's a case to case basis...10:12
irrelevantscroll down a bit to Kubuntu 6.0610:12
_lupineactually, I'd recommend learnign how to DIY, but that's just me10:12
aliasfre1automatix web site is not exactly low profile, and ubotu warn people from using automatix10:12
Jucatoexcept that the wiki and help pages are down now, so DIY wouldn't really help...10:12
aliasfre1Jucato: you tried them ?10:12
Admiral_Chicagospazz, it didn't break shit of mine, but i reconfigured my sources.list10:12
olegJucato: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse    already has multiverse10:13
Jucatoaliasfre1: ubotu also warns people from EasyUbuntu10:13
aliasfre1!easyubuntu10:13
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:13
olegJucato: that should work, right?10:13
Kamping_Kaiserthey cna tell yo uin automatix10:13
Jucatooleg: I already said "not that". that's "dapper-updates" my line only says "dapper"10:13
aliasfre1Jucato: ah ok, then i was bad mounth without reason :)10:13
_lupineah, but they give a link for easyubuntu ;)10:13
Admiral_Chicagodownloading 250+ packages for an edgy update sucks10:13
Jucatooleg: those are 2 different repositories10:13
olegJucato: sorry10:14
Jucato_lupine: yep. because automatix only got their own web page recently10:14
Jucatoso there was no link to post at all for Automatix10:14
_lupinedon't mind me :p10:14
irrelevanthttp://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/10:15
pointwoodso, is everyone using easyubuntu?10:15
spazzwhast that?10:16
Healotno10:16
Jucatono10:16
spazzwhats that * even.....10:16
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JucatoI use neither, but I used Automatix once in Breezy10:16
pointwoodk10:16
pointwoodjust wondering what the best way is to get mp3, flash, etc. installed10:16
Admiral_Chicagopointwood, i used automatix in breezy and dapper10:16
Admiral_Chicagoi just backup my /etc/apt/sources.list10:17
Jucatopointwood: depends on your preferences. but sometimes, the best way is not the easiest10:17
Healotenable all sections of your repos?10:17
JucatoAutomatix and EasyUbuntu are definitely the easiest10:17
olegJucato: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse    . Is this correct?10:17
Healotupdate, and have a good Internet connection?10:17
Admiral_Chicagofor real, sometimes DIY is the way to go10:17
spazzEh.. you need w32codecs and... if you want flash, what worked for me is the xine-firefox-plugin ... forgot what it was called10:17
spazzjust installed it.10:17
Jucatooleg: yes. that one.10:17
Healotoleg: repeat that for the other repos too..10:17
Admiral_Chicagoi installed vlc on my own, i didnt use a script10:17
olegstrange, I have that already, and no opera, no flash10:18
arepiewhat does this mean --> agpgart: Consider rebooting with iommu=memaper=2 to get a good aperture.10:18
spazzJucato : HEY ... think I found a bittorent client that doesn't suck. lol. Going to download some files to test it.10:18
Jucatooleg: you have to install "flashplugin-nonfree" for that10:18
Admiral_Chicagospazz, i use Ktorrent10:18
Kamping_Kaiserjust quicky - if you want to go into EU/AX discusion, please do it in -offtopic ;)10:18
Healotbittorrent itself sucks10:18
spazzdeath to ktorrent!!!!10:18
_lupinearepie: it's telling you to add "iommu=memaper=2" to your kernel bootline10:18
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pointwoodAdmiral_Chicago: I want something that works properly, I don't want to fsck up my new kubuntu install :)10:18
Jucatooleg: opera can be installed using a different repository10:18
_lupineyou don't "need" to10:18
Admiral_Chicagopointwood, it works10:18
spazzKtorrent is the devil, least on this laptop.10:19
Admiral_Chicagojust be cautious and you'll be fine10:19
_lupinebut you could get better performance if you do10:19
arepie_lupine: but i'ev allready added it to the kernel bootline10:19
Healoti prefer the original bittorrent client10:19
arepiestill error10:19
Admiral_Chicagospazz, worked fine on my desktop....to each his own10:19
pointwoodAdmiral_Chicago: what should I be cautious about? :)10:19
Jucatodifferent strokes for different brushes....10:19
olegI used this config file with ca prefix (canada)http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories10:19
arepie_lupine: im trying to install ATI driver on my 6.06.1 64bit10:19
Admiral_Chicagopointwood, your sources.list messing up10:19
spazzyes, to each his own. except that it plain out hasnt worked for me on 2 diff laptops, several diff fresh installs ect..10:19
spazzits just a buggy as crap program in my experience.10:19
Jucatooleg: you did "update" first before you started looking for flash, right?10:20
pointwoodAdmiral_Chicago: that is backed up :)10:21
Admiral_Chicagolike i said, it worked for me10:21
olegsudo apt-get update10:21
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spazzthat is cool.10:21
arepiehello, who could help me with installing ATI driver?10:21
spazzThis tribler program won't open now. Fatal error.10:21
olegsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree -- no result10:21
spazzwtf @ linux and freakin errors all the time..10:21
spazzargh.10:21
Jucatohmm10:21
olegE: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree10:21
spazzI don't know what I could be doing wrong ... fresh copy of kubuntu. Latest version. Only installed like 3 programs so far.10:22
spazzbesides codecs. argh. so irritating.10:22
Admiral_Chicagospazz, hmm thats odd10:22
spazzi know..10:22
Jucatooleg: hmm...10:22
Admiral_Chicagoi rarely get errors doing installs10:22
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spazzupsetting really, cuz i really just want windows on here, but the installer refuses to work.10:22
lupine_85it gives you errors so it doesn't have to crash ;)10:22
spazzI think this thing just has some serious hardware issues.10:22
Healotoleg: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and i'll tell you what went wrong10:23
spazzit gives me errors so it doesnt have to work lol10:23
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Jucatospazz: I might be saying something heretic here, but, have you tried some other distro?10:23
olegHealot: pastebin? how do I do that?10:23
Jucato!pastebin10:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:23
spazzyea... but not in a while.10:23
spazzlast few distros ive tried are ubuntu, kubuntu ... knoppix (which .. not good for hdd install) ...10:24
spazzeh. had suse . but it had probs too10:24
Jucatospazz: how about the latest MEPIS, it's based on Ubuntu10:24
spazzI'd probably try Suse again .. if I had to try another distroy again10:24
oleghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2176410:24
spazzMEPIS? hmm. Heard of that. ARGH this cat wont leave me alone omg.10:24
spazzbout to go outside....... lol10:25
arepieim on amd64 processor, which could be the best, stable 32bit kubuntu, or troublesome 64bit kubuntu?10:25
Jucatolol!! wanna play with that Kat10:25
Healot64-bit isn't troublesome10:25
spazzlol it wont stop licking my arm10:25
Healotslow on development, not troublesome10:25
spazzits SOOO annoying. lol10:25
Jucatolol10:25
olegJucato, Healot:  By the way, I run 64 bit10:25
lupine_85urgh, suse ;)10:26
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lupine_85TBH, though, unless you *need* 64bit, you're probably best with 3210:27
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lupine_85(it's what I'm doing)10:27
arepieoleg: you could read here on install flash on 64bit --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:27
arepieopss10:27
Jucatoarepie: the wiki and help pages are down...10:27
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spazzI am watching the video about mepis .10:27
arepieowhh.. i see10:27
spazz...aaaaaaaaaand no sound. that is nice.10:27
spazzthere we go.10:29
spazzAnyone else have that bug ... where u have to open up 2 movie players at once just to get a video to work?10:29
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spazzwhat do u know about mepis10:31
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olegarepie: link seems to be broken10:33
Admiral_Chicagooleg, the server is down10:33
arepieoleg: and the page should be --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava just wait the server to up again..10:34
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olegSo, I cant install flash or opera because I use 64 bit arch?10:36
kinemawelcome to the wonderful world of proprietary software10:37
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lupine_85you can in a 32-bit chroot10:38
lupine_85but it's an ugly way to do it10:38
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aliasfre1does flash work as native 64 bit on window ?10:40
olegIn Gentoo linux this was done transparently :(    I man chrooting or whaever weas nessesary10:40
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Shan_i get this error message "cannot execute binary file10:50
Shan_" when i try to run Unreal Tournament10:50
spazzDo you have WINE?10:50
spazzI think I am the only one still awake in here, btw..lol.10:50
spazzI dun even know if I can help you out that wel.l10:51
Shan_lol10:51
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Shan_i have installed UT before on kubuntu10:51
spazzBut, do you have WINE installed?10:51
Shan_and ran it w/o WINE10:51
spazzoh. linux version.10:51
Shan_yeah10:51
Shan_got the linux installer10:51
spazzWINE = unstable DEATH lol.10:51
Shan_uses the same cds but installs on linux10:52
Shan_lol10:52
spazz... yea. i need some games on here. not many good games for linux that run worth a crap on this laptop.10:52
Shan_well..from what I read on the net, when it gives that error it means that the shell doesnt understand what to do with the file10:52
Shan_I got UT to run qute well10:52
spazzhmm. strange.10:52
Shan_on my last install10:52
spazzYea, I really just wanted windows on here. But the installtion cds refuse to work10:53
spazzthey all worked before.. but i think damn hdd is crashign on this.10:53
Shan_lol10:53
spazzBecause I have read/write problems all the time, and windows installer was complaining about ... not being able to copy files to a freshly formatted hdd. WTF.10:53
spazz........... so yea. it basically sucks, cuz its a bitch to get things working under linux usually..10:54
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Shan_yeah10:55
Shan_specially since you've done it once10:55
spazzeh?10:55
Shan_its all the more irritating10:55
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spazzI've been messing with linux off and on for the past few years.10:55
Shan_never came accross this error10:55
spazzSeems like it's just now starting to become less bitchy.10:56
spazz... but hates my laptop stlil10:56
spazzargh10:56
zblachspazz: what brand>10:56
printcardello.............10:56
printcardhello...10:56
spazzsony vaio.10:56
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spazz5 years old now i think lol10:56
spazzIt's .. the HDD more than anything. I think it's about ready to die.10:56
Shan_hehe10:57
spazzBecause it's gotten a bit slower, takes forever to boot up usually ........ then... i dunno. The windows installers wouldnt work, and they worked before cuz ive reinstalled windows about 30 times on this thing.10:57
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spazznow .. it just decides it wont work anymore (factory restore cds) ... and even some burned xp pro and win 2k cds.10:57
spazz** pulls out hair **10:57
zblachlaptop support is a bit strange, i've found10:58
spazzyea.10:58
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spazzI just want a computer to be able to display all media correctly... and not die with random errors becuz you try installing something.10:59
spazzAnd it blows up the universe.10:59
zblachfor instance, i had almost no trouble installing dapper onto my laptop, and minimal tweaking to get everything working10:59
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giovanni_hi there10:59
zblachdie w/ random errors?10:59
spazzeh.yea.11:00
zblachhow do you mean? what sort?11:00
spazzWell, Ktorrent refuses to work, always crashes, even the newest version.11:00
spazzand azureus is a pos on this computer, has a warning box that pops up on the bottom of the screen11:01
spazzwith a HIDE button. Well, that button does NOT work11:01
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spazz... basically, bittorrent clients are the devil on linux, and i just got this new one called tribler ..which is a version of ABC client..11:01
evertHello kan i install kubuntu on a sata disk ?11:01
spazz...and eh. oh, i tried getting wacom tablet to work, followed this guide, did what it said... worked for a second then just STOPPED.11:01
giovanni_evert. yes11:02
evertOk , i hope so11:02
spazz... sigh. just.. bunch of little things like that.11:02
evertMy windows will disapear very soon :O11:02
adz21cevert: i should hope so thats what i am running now :-)11:02
evertok11:02
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giovanni_I too11:02
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everthopefully i'm able to switch completely to linux after several months of dual booting etc11:03
spazzevert: why?11:03
evertwhy wat ?11:03
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spazzwhy are you switching over to linux completely?11:03
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evertseveral reasons ... I don't see reasons to use windows (the only one is gaming , but i'm quiting gaming ...)11:04
evertAnd i just wants to learn more :)11:04
spazzoh11:05
spazz... yea, im becoming the opposite of you now, lol.11:05
spazzi like to tinker with linux still11:05
giovanni_gaming is my last reason to keep windows11:05
evertIn an hour i'm going to switch my 2 80Gb IDE hard disks (dual booting) for 1 300Gb sata disk11:05
everti can do that for free :)11:05
spazzBut ... I've gotten to the point where I just want the thing to work..and be able to play whatever game/media I want without errors or problems.11:05
evertthat isn't a problem in ubuntu11:05
evertjust install the codecs (with the wiki) and it's all working11:06
spazz... so, that means i need to buy a mac eventually lol11:06
evertor use something like 'easybuntu'11:06
spazzI want my Wacom Tablet to work.11:06
spazzand it's being difficuilt.11:06
evertOk , but you found 'help' on the internet for getting it working ? So it's possible :)11:07
evertand it's not linux fault , it's wacom's11:07
spazzactually not really11:07
spazzi just found a bunch of other people like me that are pissed off cuz it wont work heh11:07
evertI'm going to install kubuntu on that disk11:07
evertcya11:08
spazzgood luck11:08
evertthanks11:08
everti hope i can live without windows :)11:08
evertnew start for a new school year :D11:08
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spazzlol11:08
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giovanni_please.I need help with wireless!11:08
spazzi want windows back lol11:08
spazzso i can play some games11:08
spazzthat dont suck11:08
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giovanni_the iwlist says "No scan result" but the wireless router in on11:09
spazzWell.11:09
spazzI have came to the conclusion, that bittorent WILL NOT WORK on this computer.11:09
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spazzp o s11:10
spazzhow can every client not work ..11:10
aliasfre1because it is your conclusion ? :)11:11
spazz... maybe this laptop just sucks11:11
spazzmaybe THATS it.11:11
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spazzhmm11:11
spazzfound a new client, called transmission11:11
spazzgoign to try that see if it works11:12
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giovanni_the iwlist says "No scan result" but the wireless router in on, please help11:13
Admiral_Chicago!wireless11:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:14
Admiral_Chicagotha site is down ATM11:14
spazzThere is definately something wrong with the networking on this pos. Because none of these bittorrent clients work.11:15
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Admiral_Chicagospazz, might be the packet signatures11:15
spazzWhat does that mean?11:15
Admiral_Chicagoi dont know what that means actually11:15
spazzoh. lol well do u know how to fix it?11:16
Admiral_Chicagobut i was told the school blocks the packet signatures11:16
Admiral_Chicagoso we can't use bit torrent11:16
spazzoh.11:16
aliasfre1spazz: you use broken hardware. no os will ever run on it11:16
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spazz..well this is home connectgion11:16
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spazzaliasfre1: ... umm. wtf..11:16
atidemhi11:16
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aliasfre1spazz: no need to blame software for not running on broken hardware11:16
Admiral_Chicagoaliasfre1, wtf, thats not the problem11:16
spazzI blame you.11:16
aliasfre1spazz: fix the hardware and retry11:17
spazzyea, buy me a new laptop11:17
zblachmy main issue is idling with 22% cpu use11:17
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zblachactually, there is one thing bothering me11:17
Admiral_Chicagoaliasfre1, the hardware isn't the problem11:17
Admiral_Chicagoatidem, hey11:17
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: his box was installing a window without issue and now it doesnt anymore. moreover its hard disk is slowing down noticably11:17
spazz.. im not convinced its the hardware either.11:17
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aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: how can you explain those fact without broken hardware ?11:17
Admiral_Chicagoaliasfre1, but if he can get online without a problem11:18
spazzBeacause it chooses when it wonts to work.11:18
spazzits working fine now11:18
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spazzno noises, but ... it has been acting odd11:18
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: this doesnt mean it is not broken hardware11:18
spazzbut i dont know wtf the deal is.11:18
Admiral_Chicagodoesn't mean the HARDWARE will black a PROGRAM from running11:18
spazzomfg, how can i check if my hdd is bad?11:19
spazzthen we will know for sure.11:19
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: well how do you run a software on a hardware which is broken ?11:19
spazzExplain why the windows instalelr wouldnt write certain files11:19
spazzto a formatted disk..11:19
Admiral_Chicagospazz, you could do an fdsk11:19
spazzi did.11:19
Admiral_Chicagoyou cant11:19
spazzi did that several times actually11:19
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spazzcant what?11:19
zblachsmartd11:19
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Admiral_Chicagoyou can't run a program on broken hardware11:20
spazzoh11:20
Admiral_Chicagobut you can't also run some programs and not others on broken hardware11:20
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: this is why spazz can no more install window on its box, and linux wont fix the hardware either :)11:20
spazzMaybe windows is just a peice of crap too.11:20
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: well some stuff may trigger the bug and not other11:20
spazzaliasfre1:  ... dont think u know what youre talking about really lol11:20
Admiral_Chicagoi have yet a HDD that says "well  I wont let bittorrent work, but firufox wont_11:21
Admiral_Chicagoits not a bug,11:21
spazzEverything else works fine.11:21
spazzBittorrent just refuses.11:21
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Admiral_Chicagoits not like a screen flicker is X11:21
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aliasfre1spazz: the argument is simple. before you could install window and now you can no more.. this is a direct proof that the hardware got broken11:21
Admiral_Chicagospazz, firewall?11:22
spazzno. no router either.11:22
Admiral_Chicagoaliasfre1, the hardware shouldn't work by that logic11:22
aliasfre1spazz: moreover  you said your disk was slowing down with time, clearly not a sign of good heath11:22
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Admiral_Chicagoits a laptop11:22
spazzwell actually11:22
spazzforget what i said11:22
Admiral_Chicagodo you know how integrated a laptop is?11:22
spazzbecause11:23
spazzits not the damn hdd11:23
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: you mean that if one piece of the laptop is broken, it wont work at all ?11:23
spazzthe windows installer wont copy certain files11:23
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Admiral_Chicagoyes11:23
spazzbut otherwise copied the rest... why just those few?11:23
danlwhat package would contain the source files to the utilities in /bin ?11:23
spazzok, then the other installer.. something about virtual memory , couldnt actually SEE wtf the problem was because the stupdi thing bluescrreened11:23
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Admiral_Chicagobecause the HDD rejected them, it decided "i'm broken, I don't want to copy these files"11:24
spazzand then, ive had to reinstall ubuntu/kubuntu a few times cuz i broke the install11:24
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aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: ok lets assume that. how do you explain the disk slow down and the window which refuse to install now and worked before ?11:24
spazz........11:24
Admiral_ChicagoWindows = Windows sucks11:24
spazzyea windows sucks but it doesnt suck as much as this does.11:24
Admiral_ChicagoDisk slow down? wear and tear11:24
spazzleast flash works in windows11:24
aliasfre1Admiral_Chicago: ok but do you have an explaination ?11:24
zblachlinux doesn't wear and tear. flash mx works in linux, and windows has its uses11:25
Admiral_Chicagocan someone help me out hear+11:25
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Admiral_Chicagozblach, drives do. hardware does11:25
spazzI am talking about flash player.11:25
zblachright. that's not 'linux's fault. that's general hardware degradation11:25
spazzvideo/audio sync11:25
spazzlack thereof11:25
spazzprettty common problem11:25
aliasfre1spazz: there are some hardware testing stuff11:25
Admiral_Chicagospazz, flash works in windows because adobe is stupid and wont release a linux version11:26
zblachspazz, from personal experience, i can tell you than anything worth anything has a non-flash equivalent11:26
spazzand ... then no flash 9 yet11:26
aliasfre1!memtest8611:26
spazz...youtube.com lol11:26
Admiral_Chicagozblach, i never said it was linux's fault11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about memtest86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
aliasfre1!memtest11:26
zblachnot just adobe, but macromedia before it wasn't very supportive11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about memtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not blaming OSs for Hardware problem....or vice versa11:26
zblachbut they're getting better11:26
zblach!klaptop11:27
spazzHow can I test to see if my hdd is bad?11:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klaptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
spazzlike... it just gets bad sectors ect ..before it implodes, and kills yoru family.11:27
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spazzutorrent .. best bittorent client ive used11:27
zblachdoes anyone know about the laptop performance profiles?11:27
spazzworked* even better under linux thru wine11:28
spazzbut now it wont work on this install11:28
spazzcuz wine is being gay11:28
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aliasfre1spazz: watch the language please11:28
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spazzwhat language? i think it was english.11:28
zblachspazz: profanity11:28
aliasfre1spazz: when you boot the install/liv cd do you have a memtest option ?11:29
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spazzwtf .. what profanity heh11:29
spazzyea memtest11:29
spazzseen it on the install cd11:29
aliasfre1spazz: ok run it, it will test the ram11:29
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spazzwhy do i need to test ram ?11:29
spazzmy hdd is the problem (i think..what im trying to find out)11:29
aliasfre1well to run it will tell you if the ram is ok or not11:30
Admiral_Chicagono, test the OS, it'll tell you if you HDD is messed up11:30
spazz...11:30
spazzok. so what should i do?11:30
Admiral_Chicagoi was being sarcastic11:30
spazz........ going to try finding those system restore cds again heh11:31
danlam i out of luck if i want the source for those files?11:31
aliasfre1danl: which files ?11:31
danlspecifically cat11:32
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aliasfre1danl: you want the source of cat ?11:33
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aliasfre1hmm this one is likely burried in some gnu package11:33
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danlyes... ok... let go look for that oe11:34
danl*one11:34
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aliasfre1spazz: then you play with 'badblocks' instruction it searches a device for bad blocks11:34
aliasfre1danl: if you want just 'a' cat and not specifically the one of kubuntu, you can get it from the gnu site11:35
danlwell im trying to fix a problem on another machine i have11:35
aliasfre1danl: in fact i think the procedure could be, 1. find out the package containing /bin/cat with dpkg 2. use apt-get to get the soruce version of this package11:35
danldebians cat is all nice and friendly and stops: cat blah >> blah ... however freebsd doesn't11:36
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danli was going to compare the code, and see if I can frankenstein it11:36
aliasfre1hmm how cat can be nice and friendly ?11:36
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lupine_85purrs when you stroke it?11:37
aliasfre1:)11:37
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lupine_85cat is in package "coreutils"11:38
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danlyea, i figured that out.... looking for the src for it now11:40
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alex_olaa11:44
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er_alexolaaa11:45
spazzcrap11:45
spazzi cant remember how many restore cds i had11:45
CViruscrapola11:45
er_alexspain?11:45
spazzi only have 2. but i think i had 3.11:45
spazzcant remember.11:45
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aliasfre1!es11:47
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:47
zblach_bit of strangeness. my keyboard refuses to respond after logging in while using the 686 kernel. what'd I bork?11:47
aliasfre1er_alex: if you fell more confortable in spanish11:47
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alex___olaa11:48
aliasfre1!es11:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:48
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aliasfre1alex___: if you fell more confortable in spanish11:48
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aliasfre1once again ? :)11:51
zblach_anyone know anything about klaptop performance profiles?11:51
aliasfre1i dont :)11:51
aliasfre1i dont even know what is 'klaptop' :)11:51
zblach_an honest answer! that's what i'm here for. :)11:52
zblach_none of this 'windows doesn't acknowledge non-proprietary software functionality'11:52
zblach_nonsense i get from their tech support11:52
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kinemazblach_: have you check in #kde?11:59
zblach_kinema: i have not11:59
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kinemaSaturday night is a bit slow on IRC but #kde is worth a try.12:00
kinemaFortunatly Saturday night isn't as slow as Friday night.  :)12:00
zblach_sunday morning any good? it's no rush12:00
kinemaI just wish my housemate and his girlfriend would quit screwing....12:01
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zblach_hook up a video cam, sell movies, donate profits to KDE. that way, you help everyone12:02
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kinemaInteresting idea.  I'll have to look into cameras.12:02
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zblach_bit of a bootstrapping issues. built in video cams are still buggy12:03
kinemaOne with IR sensitivity of course.12:03
kinemaI was thinking of a network cam like an Axis camera.12:03
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pointwoodI just upgraded to kde 3.5.4. do anyone know why kopete and ksysguard is being kept back?12:04
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pointwoodthis is on a new kubuntu dapper install12:04
kinemapointwood: have you tried "apt-get install kopete" and then "apt-get install ksysguard"?12:05
pointwoodkinema: in adept, I tried requesting the update and then it says "break (upgrade)"12:05
kinemasometimes apt can't resolve dependancies12:05
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pointwoodahhh12:06
pointwood27. aug. 2006 11.27  Golf12:07
pointwoodGolfspilleren Thomas Bjrn fortsatte de gode takter fra anden runde, da han natten til sndag igen gik en runde i 67 slag, 3 under banens par.12:07
pointwoodMed fem birdies og to bogeys p tredje runde af den strkt besatte World Golf Championship-turnering sikrede Thomas Bjrn sig en delt 10. plads fr sidste runde p Firestone-banen i Ohio.12:07
pointwoodI den samlede stilling er turneringens eneste dansker 4 slag under par, 5 slag efter den frende amerikaner Stewart Cink. Efter tredje runde overtog han frstepladsen fra landsmanden Tiger Woods, der dog kun er et enkelt slag efter.12:07
pointwoodargh12:07
pointwoodsorry12:07
kinemanp12:07
pointwoodThe following packages have unmet dependencies:12:07
pointwood  kopete: Depends: libjasper-runtime but it is not installable12:07
pointwoodE: Broken packages12:07
ninHerhi all12:07
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kinemaare you running dapper?12:07
pointwoodyes12:07
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pointwoodjust installed kubuntu dapper 6.06.112:07
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kinemaapt-get install libjasper-runtime12:08
pointwoodadded the kde 3.5.4 repo and did a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade12:08
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pointwoodmaybe I need the multiverse repo...12:09
kinematry adding it12:09
pointwoodhrm...what is universe and multiverse?12:10
kinemathey are package repositories that are not officially supported by Canonical.12:11
kinemaoften times they are packages from the Debian repositories.12:11
kinemaThey are community supported.12:11
pointwoodyeah, just wondering what they contains12:12
kinemapiles and piles of software12:12
pointwoodI know12:12
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DeeTahPanLtah811 vs 235... niiiice :)12:13
kinema?12:13
DeeTahPanLtahanyone knows why in my repo's there isn't any gset-compiz even if i modified sources.list?12:13
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gan|y|medhello12:14
DeeTahPanLtahhiya12:14
pointwoodoh well, universe and multiverse added :)12:15
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gan|y|medcan anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)12:16
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dhqhow do i upgrade k3b12:21
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w1w1t0m1hello, how can I add language to kde? There is a button Add language but only 2 items in it ...is there way to add another language? thanks12:22
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gan|y|medcan anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)12:23
pointwoodkinema: enabling universe and multiverse seems to do the trick :)12:24
kinemacongrats12:24
pointwood:)12:24
pointwoodnow I just need to wait for it to download...12:25
pointwoodstupid slow wimax connection :(12:25
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kinemayou're on a wimax network?12:25
pointwoodyup12:25
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kinemahmmm...12:25
pointwood<-- denmark12:25
pointwoodclearwire12:26
pointwoodlaunched in the major cities in dk12:26
kinemaI wasn't aware that there were any draft standard networks depolyed12:26
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pointwoodit is only a temporary solution for me12:26
pointwoodI should (finally, after having waited for many months!) soon have a fiber connection instead :)12:27
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kinemavery nice.12:27
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pointwood10/10Mbit :)12:27
kinemaI find it staggering how far we lag behind here in the US.12:28
pointwoodcould get 25/25 as well, but I think I'll be able to live with 10/10 for now :p12:28
gan|y|medis there any updated (>= 0.14.1) package of the synaptics driver for dapper?12:28
pointwoodgan|y|med: sorry, don't know :(12:28
kinemaI'm also amazed at the stupidity of our "leaders"12:29
kinemano clue.12:29
pointwoodyou're not alone...12:29
pointwoodwe got clueless leaders here as well12:29
kinemabut do yours go arround starting war after war?12:30
pointwoodnope, but we are also a little country with <6 mill. people, so starting a war would be quite stupid :)12:30
kinemagood point.12:30
dhqhey all .,how do i upgrade k3b12:31
kinemaapt-get upgrade12:31
pointwoodwe did manage to get much of the muslim world very agry at us recently though :p12:31
kinemaforgot about that little incident12:31
zblach_that was fun. i remember writing an essay on that12:31
zblach_took quite a bit of heat from that12:32
zblach_printed up the offending photo, and handed it out to people, just to show what the big deal was12:33
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gan|y|medok, is there a downgrade for ksynaptics? so that i can use 0.14.3 of the synaptics driver...?12:33
pointwoodzblach_: hehe, nice12:34
pointwoodmany people, including bill clinton, misunderstood the issue...sadly12:34
zblach_pointwood: town break down as follows. 300k people. 1.6k  (inc. me jews) 60k ex-pat lebanese12:34
dhqthe moment i start to burn a dvd in k3b   ,, the moment i burn either k3d crashes or inputoutput error12:35
pointwoodwhat town is that?12:35
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zblach_windsor. we're just outside detroit, cross the canadian boarder12:35
pointwoodk12:36
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pointwoodwell, the problem was that the pictures most of the arabic world got worked up over, wasn't pictures that the newspaper posted12:40
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zblach_that, and people automatically assumed the worse12:40
pointwoodit was a bunch of imams (correct term?) from denmark that travelled the arabic countries, showed - some of the pics they showed, were much much worse than the pics in the newspaper12:41
zblach_a single imam, from my research, and outrage only began months later12:42
pointwoodit wasn't a single imam12:42
pointwoodthey were a group12:42
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malice!supported12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supported - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
zblach_right, i'm out. g'morning12:46
maliceanyone else know fo another site that would give me a list of supported wireless cards? the one from kubuntu is down.12:47
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kinemaseattlewireless12:47
pointwooda funny sidenote is the recent crisis in lebanon - one of the imams actually got evacuated from there and came back home to denmark. A newspaper (one of the "sensation" ones) posted a picture of him in the airport on their frontpage with the text "is Denmark good enough now?" or something like that :)12:48
maliceI am looking for a card for the laptop12:48
lupine_85it's not called "the sun", or "the daily mail", is it?12:48
maliceright now the one I have does not work12:48
lupine_85wireless LAN? pci/usb/PCMCIA?12:49
kinemamalice: http://www.seattlewireless.net/HardwareComparison12:49
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pointwoodlupine_85: no, but it is similar12:49
Nekrosithhi there12:49
malicepcmciat12:49
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NekrosithHey, could anyone help me??12:49
pointwoodlupine_85: I'm danish, it's the danish equivalent12:49
kinemaNekrosith: what do you need?12:50
lupine_85ah :)12:50
Naoszdont know if this is the correct place to debate the rights and wrongs of the danish newspapers offending the muslim world and getting more than they expected12:50
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lupine_85course it is :)12:50
NekrosithI want to install kubuntu, I've alreadyask for the discs, but12:50
NekrosithI need to know if my laptop is compatible with kubuntu12:50
Nekrosithit's a packard bell easynote v790012:51
Nekrosithcentrino duo processor12:51
malicelupin_85 the site shows me cards but it only says linux I need to know if it is supported for Kumbuntu12:52
malicekubuntu even12:52
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lupine_85should be fine12:52
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Naoszkubuntu supports my brand new mobile... that was a surprise for me, talk about plug and play :o12:53
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maliceNo, the one I have now has a orinoco chip set and it does not work I tried everything12:54
maliceunless one of you know how to use kismet?12:55
maliceI ran that after install and it showed my card and my signal12:55
malicebut I did not know what to do after that12:55
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maliceI took it as kismet would link me up12:56
maliceit just shows me the connections12:57
octanhi all12:57
lupine_85never used it, but I'd imagine you have to select one of the networks and press "connect"12:57
lupine_85..or something12:57
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lupine_85since you can see the networks, the card is working12:57
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octanim woundering,, is ther a app that removes double lines from a file.. i mean clone lines.. etc is a file has text1 on several lines.. it should remove it so only 1 text1 is in the file12:58
lupine_85sed?12:59
octanawk :P12:59
lupine_85or you could write a quick parser, to run through each line and compare it with the preceeding one01:00
maliceno, this is all out of konsole there is not an option to connect01:00
lupine_85easy to do with bash01:00
lupine_85malice: man iwconfig then?01:00
octani was more thinking of a c|c++ app..01:00
maliceits there01:00
lupine_85man kismet, even01:00
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lupine_85octan: none that I could think of off-hand. It's a pretty trivial thing01:00
lupine_85if you want I can knock you one up in lazarus01:01
lupine_85but it'll have to wait 'cos I'm just off to the shop01:01
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octanlupine_85, lazarus?01:01
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octanlupine_85, whats lazarus?01:02
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lupine_85Object Pascal IDE01:03
lupine_85http://lazarus.freepascal.org01:04
lupine_85bit like Delphi01:04
Nekrosithanyone knows about compatibility betwen kubuntu and a packard bell easynote v7900??01:04
kinemaNekrosith: not a clue.  try booting the live cd and see what happens.01:04
Nekrosithok, thanks01:04
octanlupine_85, isnt pascal old :P i tought no one was writing stuff in it anymore..01:04
lupine_85pascal is about as old as c01:04
Nekrosithby the way, the new Kubuntu includes Xgl or not yet??01:04
lupine_85not as popular, but faster and just as flexible01:05
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lupine_85Delphi was the best IDE available for windows01:05
kinemaNekrosith: no but hold on a sec...01:05
Nekrosithok01:05
lupine_85and Borland's C++ compiler used a lot of Delphi code ;)01:05
lupine_85(it was faster)01:05
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octanlupine_85, oki :) im just staring to learn c++01:06
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lupine_85well, replace { and } with begin and end, and you're almost there01:06
octanhehe01:06
lupine_85the object-orientated framework also makes more sense01:06
kinemaNekrosith: take a look at http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/100008101:06
CVirusROFL01:06
lupine_85IMO01:06
Nekrosithok, thanks01:07
lupine_85download the .rpm files, turn the packages into .debs (alien) and have a play01:07
lupine_85the major advantage is that GUIs are really, really, really easy01:07
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NekrosithKinema, thanks, gtg01:08
NekrosithBye folks01:08
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kinemalupine_85: in lazarus?01:08
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lupine_85yes01:09
kinemai'll have to check it out sometime01:09
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lupine_85even better, native win32, qt and gnome apps are just a recompile away01:09
lupine_85MacOS X as well01:10
kinemaqt?01:10
octanlupine_85, you if you write stuff in that lazarus thers no need for porting if you need to run it on other platforms?01:11
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octanjust compli and run it?01:11
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kinemaI wonder why Lazarus hasn't gotten more press..01:15
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pointwoodwhat email client do people use? kmail? I've seem to recall it having issues in regards to imap, but maybe those issues are solved?01:19
Kamping_Kaiserthundrebird, now and then sylpheed01:19
phreakyshi01:21
pointwoodI use thunderbird as well, but was considering using kmail01:21
dhqneed help to burn a dvd01:21
phreakysdoes anyone know how to remove the windowbar of xglx(compiz) before kde booted up? now i have to manually hide it every time. not a nice sight01:22
lupine_85octan: pretty much01:23
lupine_85there are some OS-specific units (h file equivs), but you can usually avoid them01:24
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dhqi am having problems with k3b and gnomebaker to burn a dvd-r  inputoutput error01:26
phreakyshm, some weird message from glxgears :S01:26
phreakysXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:26
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phreakysi get this alot. anyone knows what the problem is?01:27
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lupine_85have you got DRI loaded?01:29
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lupine_85(e.g. LoadModule "dri" in xorg.conf)01:30
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baldiconfigure: error: "Could not find gtk-config. gtk-dev must be installed." <-- i don't know how i get gtk-dev :/01:34
phreakysyes01:34
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phreakysdri is being loaded. isn't that normal for ati?01:35
spring_hi, i have used vmware to run a server, and also run ftp server on kubuntu, now what's the command format used to connect to ftp server from my vmware???01:36
spring_i have tried many formats like 'ftp localhost' , ... no avail01:36
spring_i got connection refused when i try 'ftp localhost'01:37
dhqHawkwind: plz help me with dvd-r burning01:37
phreakysdoesnt vmware use a virtual network adapter?01:38
phreakysmay be easier just to install kubuntu out of the box, without vmware :-001:38
phreakys:_)01:38
spring_ohh so i got to find address of those adapter 1st, i assume01:38
phreakysmaybe01:39
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phreakyshm, something is wrong about my videosettings ;(01:42
spring_well i can connect to  ftp server on kubuntu using filezilla in vmware winxp with address like 192.168.1.3 but how do i do the same thing in console from another vmware knoppix server01:42
spring_ftp 192.... simply doesn't work01:42
phreakysdunno01:43
spring_doh01:43
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phreakysseems like a complicated configuration01:44
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phreakysso weird01:53
phreakysXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". + direct rendering: no and i get 6000 fps in glxgears still01:54
phreakys(compiz xgl loaded)01:54
lupine_856K fps isn't all that much on glxgears01:54
spring_hi how do i create a ftp server name for kubuntu so i connect to that ftp server using the created name within vmware linux server in console???01:55
phreakysno ok, but i dont understand why it has still this fps and saying the drivers are down01:55
phreakysxgl is working fine01:55
lupine_85but is the dri module loaded?01:55
phreakysno ;(01:56
phreakysits in xorg.conf01:56
phreakysbut somehow it doesnt load01:56
lupine_85error messages in log?01:56
phreakysi noticed glcore is not loaded01:56
phreakysehm, where is the log located?01:56
lupine_85 /var/log01:56
lupine_85progrably Xorg.0.log01:56
phreakysah yes01:57
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alex_hi@all01:58
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spring_just a silly question, did anyone try to  manage a server thru gui ftp, say browser?? since i am bad in vi or emac, i plan to manipulate server with no gui thru browser connected to it thru ftp01:59
phreakysalot of mumbojumbo in Xorg.0.log, but i cant see anything wrong02:00
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phreakysspring, why dont you use a windows ftp server?02:00
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spring_i am not going to use windows02:01
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phreakysbut why vmware then?02:02
spring_to run virtual server for project management, everyone pc in the LAN can access it02:02
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spring_also don't need to buy another machine02:03
rodhelloo ... my xorg server or config seems to have got screwed up, during a recent system update ... i can't get X to start, with any of nvidia, fbdev or vga drivers ... any idea's whta might have happened or how i can fix it02:05
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atidemrod: it's a bug02:05
atidemsearch on launchpad.net02:06
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rodatidem: a known bug ? ... thanks, i'll look it up02:06
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larson9999what a day!02:21
zolmotell me all about it02:22
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ThomasIHi, it seems to me that the KDE session restore does not start the programs with the same paramters they were originally started, any way to change this behavior?02:25
Pizzak_how I can remove a ban with konversation?02:25
lupine_85they're listed in settings02:26
lupine_85so delete from there02:26
larson9999i wake up, breathe in this wonder thing called air, and i can't help but think it's gonna be another great day.02:26
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kutanAnyone awake?02:33
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kutan247 other people and not one person on. o_o02:34
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kutanwell... 246 cause of the bot..02:34
kutanWell when someone sees this message I'd love some help, I keep getting this reoccuring problem02:36
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rodhi kutan ... i'm awake, trying to ressurect my old kubu install ... don;t spose you are an xorg guru ?02:36
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kutan..oh02:36
kutanxorg? no o_o02:36
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rodgack ... i cannot get X to start and am hopless with just term's02:37
larson9999i'm awake but i'm just listening to numa numa02:37
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kutanWell...02:37
kutanWhenever I try to install something...02:37
kutanANYTHING by myself if I can't use the package manager02:38
kutanin console it'll tell me this02:38
kutanconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:38
kutanSee `config.log' for more details.02:38
roddo you have gcc installed ?02:38
kutanHell if I know02:39
larson9999kutan what do you type to install something?02:39
kutanwell in this case I'm using wineinstaller so I use uhhh02:39
kutansh wineinstall02:39
kutanand of course the sudo prefix if I need it >_>02:40
rodsounds like the installer migth need a c compiler ?02:40
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kutanWhere can I find a c compiler... besides google...02:40
kutanI mean like is there one specific one that's top of the line that I should get?02:41
rodtype gcc into adept search02:41
kutank02:41
kutanIt says it's installed02:42
rodah ... try    gcc -v      ib the command line02:42
kutank02:42
kutanwineinstall: file not recognized: File format not recognized02:43
rodwhat did you type ?02:44
kutaner.. "gcc -v wineinstall"?02:44
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rodah, leave out the wineinstall ... i was just cheking that gcc was installed ok02:45
kutanoh02:45
kutanyeah well I also tried without wineinstall, a whole bunch of text came up02:45
rodsounds about right ... i'm stumped02:46
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kutanI also tried "Building the Wine Package from Source using APT"02:47
slougiwhat's wrong with the wine binaries?02:47
kutanIt was fine when I created the package but when I typed in "dpkg -i wine*.deb" to install it... hold on02:47
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kutanit said02:48
kutanBuild command 'cd wine-0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.02:48
kutanE: Child process failed02:48
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slougikutan: have you tried the ./configure, make approach?02:49
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kutanYep02:50
kutanFails all the time too02:50
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kutanthe ./configure doesn't work02:50
slougikutan: it complains about the C compiler?02:50
kutanHold on I'll try ./configure on something and get the log02:50
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larson9999why are you installing wine that way anyway?  the newest version is in the repositories02:51
larson9999unless they just put out a new one02:51
kutanIt doesn't show up in the repositories for me02:51
larson9999oh at least in one i have02:51
kutaneven after adding the URLs02:51
octanupdate02:51
larson9999kutan lemme see what repo i added for that02:52
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slougikutan: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb02:52
larson9999deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:52
larson9999deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:52
kutanslougi I already tried everything on that list but failed all and larson I tried that one AND the the breezy02:53
larson9999kutan those seem to get the new version pretty quick.  the download slougi gave works, too.02:53
larson9999kutan you running breezy?02:54
kutanDon't think so02:54
kutanAlso02:54
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kutanI just typed in wine in the adept manager and it came up with winelib02:54
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kutaner libwine02:55
kutanis that it? o_O02:55
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larson9999kutan what happens when you try to install with those repos or the link from slougi?02:55
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rodcan i tell xserver to ignore my nvidia card somehow ... is that what fbdev is all about ?02:56
rodor vga ?02:56
slougirod: no, fbdev just basically gives you a console with higher resolution and ability to display graphics02:56
kutanHmmmm hold on larson02:57
slougirod: why do you want to ignore the nvidia card?02:57
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lambengolmorsorry, does anyone know how to make skippy work?03:00
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rodslougi: i can't get X to start ... i think some package got updated without me paying attention, but when i re-booted a day or so ago, X refuses to start :(03:01
rodi talking now from another kubu install on a separate partition, but i'd *love* to get the other going again ... it's got oddles of updates + personal consfigs etc03:01
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Bizzehhey, how would i get a root console in kubuntu so i dont have to type sudo before every single line?03:02
duncan_Hi guys03:02
kutanlarson9999 I tried all of the methods in the link from slougi but none of them work03:02
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xyushow can I register my nickname03:02
xyus?03:02
slougirod: maybe you were bit by the xorg bug... just try a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and starting X again03:02
larson9999kutan 'none of them work' doesn't help.  what happens? error messages etc03:03
rodi don;t need h/w accelleration, just a gui desktop ... i also tried re-installing the nvidia packages + the linux-restricted-modules, but i can't see what's wrong :(03:03
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slougirod try updating the system, there was a major bug in a recent xorg update03:03
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slougixyus: register on freenode?03:03
kutanHmmmm larson can you PM me so I can paste the errors without people getting angry? =\03:04
rodslougi: ah thank you ... i don't know apt-get at all being spoilt by adept ... i'll give it a shot :)03:04
slougino worries ;)03:04
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slougikutan: just paste it here: http://pastebin.com/03:04
kutanah okay hold on then03:05
slougibrb03:05
rodwell, here goes ... back soon ;)03:05
xyusguys help me03:05
xyusxD03:05
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larson9999slougi rod might not have security enabled, too.  that's a common issue now.03:07
slougilarson9999: ah, dammit. didn't even consider that03:08
slougixyus: where do you want to register your nick?03:08
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larson9999slougi i only thought of it because i forgot on 2 different installs03:09
os2macHi everyone03:10
slougihullo03:10
larson9999i'll be danged, wine popped another one out.  i think there is a new version every 4 minutes03:11
xyusslougi03:11
xyusI just wann register it03:11
kutanhttp://pastebin.com/777154 Those are 2 of the different methods03:11
xyusso I can do DCC convers03:11
slougixyus: /msg nickserv help03:11
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xyusREGISTER03:12
slougikutan: are you sure you added the repositories? try this command: grep wine /etc/apt/sources.list and see if it prints out the repos03:13
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larson9999kutan: you must have put those in sources.list or not have done 'sudo apt-get update'  otherwise apt-get would give you a message saying wine is already at the newest version or it would install it.03:13
xyusyope03:13
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larson9999kutan: you must NOT have put those in sources.list03:14
phreakyshm, how would i get access to all directories from konqueror?03:14
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slougixyus: you must msg nickserv the commands03:14
xyusyeah03:14
phreakysi mean, write access03:14
xyusI got it03:14
xyusxD03:14
slougilarson9999: huh? of course he has to add the wine repos03:14
larson9999slougi: i meant he must not have already added them or didn't do the update.  otherwise wine would either install or give a message saying it's ready at the newest version03:15
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kutanlarson9999 I have it in my sources.list03:18
slougiphreakys: not generally advisable, but you could for example run `kdesu konqueror`03:18
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slougikutan: did you run apt-get update ?03:19
pascalSuddenly now when I start dapper it just gives me an error message that it's not possible to mount the hardrive... It works fine with edgy that is installed on the same Hd03:19
kutanYep03:19
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slougiand it gave no errors?03:19
pascalDoes anybody have any idea about what this is?03:19
kutanFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found03:19
kutanW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508803:19
kutanthat's all the errors03:19
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slougiah, are you running a 64-bit system?03:20
larson9999lol03:20
larson9999dang03:20
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kutan32 I think?03:20
larson9999slougi got to ask that sooner03:20
slougi:P03:20
slougikutan: what does uname -a print?03:21
kutanLinux kutan-desktop 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:21
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slougiyup that's a 64-bit system03:21
larson9999oh boy03:21
kutanoh boy what? o_o;03:22
slougiI am not sure wine even works on 64-bit systems03:22
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slougilast I looked into it there were lots of issues03:22
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larson9999slougi: i don't think so but i maybe would have missed that since i don't run 64bit03:22
kutan._. I guess 64 isn't common?03:22
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pascalWhat can I do when it's not possible to mount the /root  and other things.. It seems like it cant find the harddrive after choosing dapper03:23
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larson9999i did find a site that looks like it addresses all the things i'd need to give it a try but haven't yet03:23
slougikutan: it is the future, I have a amd64 processor myself, but run 32-bit linux cause of little issues like with the flash plugin, etc.03:23
kutanwait... I can go 32 bit?03:24
kutanI thought I had to go 64 -_-03:24
larson9999kutan: yeah03:24
Bizzehwhy care about flash?03:24
Bizzehits crap anyway03:24
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kutantime to reinstall kubuntu ._.03:24
slougipascal: there's lots of stuff to check... first, you could check that the kernel is passed the right parameters by grub03:24
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slougiBizzeh: well, I happen to think it's a pretty essential plugin03:25
kutanIt is...03:25
pascalthats in the menu.lst right?03:25
Bizzehfor viewing overbloated sites that have use more bandwidth than they need?03:25
slougipascal: yup, you can also check on boot by selecting the dapper entry and pressing e03:26
slougiBizzeh: amongst other things, yes03:26
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pascalkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash03:26
Bizzehflash is one of the worst things to ever happen to the internet03:26
kutanCan I change to 32 bit without entirely reinstalling linux...? :(03:26
larson9999i use flash a lot.  ebay for instance03:27
slougikutan: I am not certain :/03:27
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Bizzehno, to go from 64bit to 32bit, you need a full reinstall03:27
Bizzehwhy would you use flash on ebay?03:27
pascalslougi doesn't that look pretty sane?03:27
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slougipascal: yes it does03:28
larson9999kutan you can run 32 bit apps in the 64 bit world but i haven't done it and i'd recommend you reinstall the 32bit for now03:28
slougipascal: do you have the exact error message?03:28
kutanAlright I guess it's time to get to work on that03:28
slougiyeah a 32-bit chroot is possible but it generally doesn't work all that well03:29
pascalthen I have to reboot.  just wait03:29
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kutanI'll be back when it's done :D03:29
kutanSee yas03:29
slougihave fun :)03:30
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alex_oneplease help me how to install a "s3 savage4" videocard on kubuntu??????????????????? and how to use tv out??? have a celeron cpu 500mHz & 768mb ram03:34
alex_onehello?03:35
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slougihi03:37
slougialex_one: what exactly is the problem?03:37
alex_onewhen i start a open gl screensaver my monitor is black03:37
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alex_one& icant use the tv out03:38
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charlie5slougi: :) ... :) ... :)03:38
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slougicharlie5: hi again :p03:39
slougialex_one: for tv-out the easiest way is to install a program called s3switch03:39
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charlie5thanks, the apt-get update & upgrade fethced the new xorg core pkg and all is now well03:39
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slougialex_one: you can then select to output for example to lcd and tv like so: s3switch lcd tv03:40
alex_onehow "apt-get install s3switch" ?03:40
slougicharlie5: glad it worked :)03:40
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slougialex_one: yes03:40
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charlie5slougi: phew !!! me too ;) ... cheers03:40
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slougialex_one: as to opengl, can you paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?03:40
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slougicharlie5: no problem03:41
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pascalback03:41
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slougipascal: so what did it say?03:41
kenneth_#linux.be03:42
pascalSo the error message that I'm recieving is: "mount: mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: no such file or directory"03:42
slougiuh hold on, shouldn't it be mounting to / and not to /root ?03:42
pascalWhat I would like to try is to use the UUID instead of /dev/hda1 like in edgy03:42
slougiah no, forget that03:42
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alex_onewhat language c++?03:43
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slougialex_one: it doesn't really matter03:43
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pascalbut... I dont know how to find the UUID of hda103:43
pascalDo you have any idea?03:43
alex_onehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/b20Otp56.html03:43
slougipascal: well you could give a try, you could also try booting the edgy kernel into dapper and see if that works03:44
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slougigive it a try*03:44
slougipascal: nope, sorry03:44
pascalhmm. I'll try03:44
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kenneth_does someone know how to run a pinnacle pctv card on kubuntu?03:44
pascalbut first to google UUID ;-)03:45
slougialex_one: hmm it's disabling direct rendering (ie 3d acceleration) for some reason, can you paste also /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?03:45
slougipascal: good luck :)03:45
alex_oneyes one min03:45
larson9999i just spent a day of heck trying to get a tv tuner working.  had problems in linux and windows.03:46
kenneth_i tried evry program from adept03:46
zblachhey, um, how can I automatically start xbindkeys on boot:03:46
zblach?03:46
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alex_onehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/D59jZk49.html03:48
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ubuntu_hallo together w[nsche euche einen angehnemen sonntag und hierbei wieder mal eine schnelle frage wie mounte ich meine hd von der live cd kubuntu aus_03:49
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erovnein03:50
slougialex_one: try editing xorg.conf and adding one line: Load "dri" in Section "Module"03:51
slougiand starting X again03:51
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nicolasorry I need help03:52
nicolaI tried to install java03:52
nicolabut when it asks for licence ageement03:52
ubuntu_wenn ich sie mittelsd gui mounten m;chte kommt diese fehlermeldung03:52
ubuntu_mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab03:52
ubuntu_Please check that the device is plugged correctly.03:52
nicolaI can't agree03:52
Jucatonicola: did you use Adept when trying to install Java?03:52
Jucato!de03:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:53
nicolaJucato: yes03:53
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slougiubuntu_: mount /dev/hdxy /foo sollte funktionieren? einfach x and y mit den richtigen variablen ersetzen, und ntrlich irgendwo mounten wo es sinn macht03:53
kutanI'm about to sound really stupid.03:53
Jucatonicola: ok, try this. Launch Konsole and type this in: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:53
ubuntu_ohhh thx mann i dident see it i just started the chat03:53
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alex_oneand where to additing it on the and befor endsection03:53
alex_one??03:53
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slougialex_one: where all the other Load "something" lines are, the position in the list is not important03:54
nicolaJucato: it says an other program is performing installation so it can't do anything03:54
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alex_oneok03:54
Jucatonicola: is Adept still open?03:54
nicolaJucato: no03:55
Jucatonicola: hmm.... ok try typing "sudo killall adept" first then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:55
alex_onei saved it03:55
slouginicola: adept probably crashed in some way... kill the adept process first03:55
alex_onehow to enable tv out03:55
alex_one???03:55
slougialex_one: with s3switch, like I said above03:56
alex_onei have installed it but cant choose it in the system preferences03:56
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nicolaJucato: ok, now03:56
nicolaJucato: ?03:56
slougiit's a command line tool, you have to run it from a terminal03:56
Jucatonicola: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" it should continue where the installation stopped03:57
nicolaJucato:03:58
nicolanicola@Elros:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a03:58
nicolanicola@Elros:~$03:58
nicolaJucato: is it supposed to be ok?03:58
alex_oneroot@yo:~# s3switch; Devices attached:  CRT TV; Devices active:    CRT; Current TV format is NTSC-J03:58
Jucatonicola: hmm.. try installing Java again, this time in the command line: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"03:58
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slougialex_one: good, now run "s3switch crt tv", you might need to lower the resolution to 800x600 or 640x480 for it to work properly, but you can do that afterwards03:59
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nicolaJucato: ok thanks it seems be working now03:59
alex_oneok thank04:00
slougino problem04:00
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alex_oneyou have help me much04:00
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slougibe warned though that there are issues with savage cards and video on the tv-out, I am actually currently looking through the code in an attempt to fix this04:00
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dusty_Hey guys how can I change the default browser to Firefox from konqueror so that when I click links it goes straight to firefox?04:12
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lupine_85control panel kde settings04:13
dusty_thankyou04:13
Jucatodusty_: in System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications04:13
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matthewfhi all04:17
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Jucatohi04:18
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theprofessionalany help need04:19
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dinwathhithere04:20
matthewfim impressed with kubuntu, its a little slow on the system i got it installed on (a VIA epia) but everything seems to be working now as it should after an hour of post install tweaking04:20
dinwathi've got a little problem with a wiFi USB dongle04:20
dinwathantone can help?04:20
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dinwath*anyone04:21
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Jucatomatthewf:  good for you! 04:21
JucatoHobbsee!!!!04:21
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krizzerwhen i mount a partition and i try to view it is says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "multi"., how do i view it04:21
theprofessionali have use wifi usb dongle but google will help04:22
Hobbseehey Jucato04:22
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Hobbseewait, `cut that04:22
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Jucatolol04:22
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JucatoI don't want to be whatever it is that's borking your sound...04:23
Hobbseeheh04:23
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Hobbseeit started randomly borking when i reinstaled a while ago04:23
Hobbseeiv'e never found out what the problem is04:23
Jucatowhoa...04:23
Jucatoand what would you mean by "borking"?04:24
Hobbseechanging pitch at random, scrambling the music04:24
Jucatooh04:24
matthewfi did an update in synaptic that downloaded new xorg core.. i take it that sort of thing is automagicly installed04:24
theprofessionalwhat is this borking shit04:24
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Jucato!language04:25
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:25
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Hobbseewoo!  and now i've really killed it!04:25
Jucatorawr!! you didn't intend to kill it when you shot it? ehehe04:25
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dusty_Hey guys I have a wierd problem with my sound in kubuntu.  Every time I try to play music and then a system sound is invoked, e.g. click and app or opening an app, whatever it plays over my music and makes it mess up (like repeats itself, sounds awfull) its kind of stopping me from using sound in KDE, are there any fixes for this?04:26
HobbseeJucato: i didnt intend to kill it *quite* like that04:26
Jucatohaha04:26
HobbseeHAH!04:26
theprofessionalany one know about adsl+ top speed is04:26
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Hobbseedusty_: what are you using for your sound?  autodetect?  (in system settings)04:26
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dusty_Not sure it worked out of the box..04:28
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longbeandusty_: if you just want to stop system notification sounds from playing then it's just a matter of turning them off in the control panel04:31
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dusty_well no, I want it to work correctly..04:31
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longbeanor is it "system settings" rather than "control panel" in the default kubuntu install?04:32
dusty_system settings..04:32
dusty_But I would rather it worked right.04:32
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longbeanthere's a subsection called "skip prevention" in there which may or may not help you04:33
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soulriderhi everyone04:34
Jucatohi soulrider04:34
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soulriderhi Jucato04:34
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ravenouscan konversation do fake trans/translucency?04:35
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lupine_85don't think so04:36
ravenousk couldnt find it either just checking04:36
lupine_85there's a background image option... I bet it won't take alpha the way you want it to, though04:36
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HobbseeJucato: i think i tried a very bad idea...04:36
Jucatowhoa.... what did you do?04:36
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HobbseeJucato: removed /tmp04:37
Jucato O_o04:37
lupine_85cor :)04:37
lupine_85quick, add it again04:37
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lupine_85(a load of lock and socket files are stupidly placed there)04:38
Hobbseeand now i cant get kdm to log me in04:38
Hobbseeindeed04:38
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cucciola_azzurraciao ragazzi04:38
cucciola_azzurraho un piccolo problema04:38
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cucciola_azzurrachi mi pu aiutare?04:38
aliasfred!it04:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:38
lupine_85reboot and select recovery mode04:39
KutanHey uhm, I just decided instead of reinstalling 32-bit linux over the 64, I'm gonna format my harddrive and completely get rid of windows too but I have a question04:39
lupine_85that "should" work04:39
Hobbseelupine_85: i'm hoping not to have to do that...04:39
lupine_85ctrl+alt+f104:39
lupine_85try logging in there04:39
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KutanDo I have to download a different version of kubuntu to switch to 32 bit?04:40
lupine_85you'd think they (the software developers) would use /var/lock instead...04:40
KutanBecause I downloaded the one for a 64-bit pc04:40
fdovingKutan: yes.04:40
lupine_85Kutan: yes04:40
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lupine_85snap04:40
lupine_85www.ubuntu.com04:40
Hobbseelupine_85: how do you think i'm on irc :P04:40
lupine_85in that case, just recreate the /tmp directory04:40
_bbeckI compiled Kopete 0.12.2, and everything seemed to go alright, but before I run make install I just wanted to make certain it worked.  So I run ./kopete, and everything looks alright until I try to go online or configure it.  Then I get the error "KCrash: Application 'lt-kopete' crashing..." has anyone seen this error?  Thanks.04:41
Hobbseeyeah, did that04:41
Hobbsee_bbeck: why did you try to compile it?04:41
lupine_85make it look like this:- drwxrwxrwt  11 root root  4096 2006-08-27 15:30 tmp04:41
Hobbseeimbrandon: has packages for dapper, it's already in breezy04:41
KutanWell I don't have a problem redownloading kubuntu :D Last time I got like 1.3 megs a second on my download04:41
_bbeckI'm running Brezzy, and the version is fairly old. (0.11.1 I think)04:41
Hobbsee_bbeck: er..well..breezy...yeah, well04:41
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lupine_85 (sudo chmod -R 777 /tmp , I think)04:42
lupine_85the problem is likely that kdm can't create the files it needs to, because it's ?not running as root?04:42
lupine_85not sure about that last part, but it'll be something like that04:43
berkesdoes anyone know a trick for konqueror to let it start with another (clean) session?04:43
ketsugiKDE4 is unlikely to make it into Edgy, right?04:43
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LeeJunFanketsugi: yes, it will not.04:43
lupine_85mm, everything in /tmp is user04:43
ketsugiThanks04:43
Jucatoketsugi: nope04:43
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LeeJunFanketsugi: there isn't even a solid release date for kde4 yet.04:43
berkesLeeJunFan: you mean that it cannot be done?04:43
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LeeJunFankde4 probably won't even be in Beta in 2 months when edgy is released.04:44
Jucatoberkes: what do you mean by "clean session"?04:44
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JucatoKDE 4 first tech preview, unusable except for developers, is scheduled to be released in October. same month that Edgy will be released. So it really won't make it04:45
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Dr_Willisunless they push back edgy.. :) but even then. that would be a rush job.04:46
berkesJucato: a session that has new cookies.04:46
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cucciola_azzurraciao04:46
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cucciola_azzurra#ubuntu_ita04:46
lupine_85delete some cookies? Create a new user and run konq. as it?04:47
cucciola_azzurra#ubuntu-ita04:47
aliasfred!it04:47
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:47
Jucatoberkes: you can delete some or all cookies. but all instances of Konqueror use the same cookies04:47
aliasfredcucciola_azzurra: no ita for all i know. more -it04:47
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Zambouliemy keyboard wasn't detected04:48
lupine_85surely the cookies are stored in ./konqueror ?04:48
Zamboulieon some games it doesn't work04:48
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Jucatohe can manually delete cookies one by one or by group in Konqueror's Settings04:49
isosHi Guys04:49
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isosdoes any body know how to define the bluetooth of my laptop?04:49
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Zambouliemy brother is tying to play runescape and he can't type for some reason04:49
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Zamboulieis this a problem with rune or what04:49
Hobbseesigh.04:49
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Dr_Willisisos,  i fired up the package manager and installed the various bluetooth packages.. then i think i manually edited the bluetooth pin file in /etc/SOMEWHERE :P04:50
berkesJucato: okay. then what I want is not possible.04:50
Dr_Willisisos,  then ran that kbluetooth program04:50
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Jucatoberkes: probably. I'm not totally sure, though.04:50
isosaha ... thanks but didn't get what can I do04:50
Dr_WillisHuh?04:50
berkesJucato: what I try to achieve is to be both logged in /and/ not logged in on one desktop. I now use Firefox and Konq to achieve the same04:50
JucatoI'm not sure if each Konqueror profile have their own cookies, but I'm guessing they're using the same set of cookies04:51
berkesJucato: afaiks profiles share sessions/cookies04:52
isosI am trying to define it from kmenu - > System settings and when I hit bluetooth it prompts this error:  DCOP error when calling services()04:52
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isosHello04:54
isosI can't find the kbluetooth program04:54
Jucatostrange.. Amarok says it "Could not read Audio CD" but Kaffeine and KsCD can play it fine04:55
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Jucatowhoa! since when did Kubuntu not require right-clicking on the CD icon to eject?04:57
HobbseeJucato: for ages....04:58
Jucatoscratch that, it only plays in Kaffeine...04:58
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JucatoHobbsee: really? I never noticed that... before it would never eject unless I right-click on it...04:58
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HobbseeJucato: dodgy config setting or something then.  *shrug*04:59
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Jucatolol04:59
JucatoI think it's the *shrug* that's causing the problem 05:00
glj12anyone here good with sound issues05:00
glj12no one here has ever been able to resolve my completely awesome problem05:00
Jucatothe topic of the hour seems to be aobut sounds...05:00
glj12ohrly05:01
glj12must be my lucky day05:01
Hobbseeglj12: crimsun is05:01
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glj12sweet05:02
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glj12so crimsun is a sound guru?05:02
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lupine_85 Hobbsee: did you manage to get logged back in?05:03
lupine_85glj12: I can do simple stuff05:03
lupine_85what's broken?05:03
glj12my sound05:03
glj12:P05:03
lupine_85:p05:03
glj12system sound, etc05:03
lupine_85so no sound at all?05:03
glj12right05:03
glj12and it recognizes my driver with no errors05:03
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glj12and my sound is turned all the way up05:03
glj12master and all05:03
trappistglj12: which driver would that be05:03
lupine_85using the alsamixer ?05:03
glj12and i know that the speakers do work, laptop is new, and played in windows05:04
lupine_85the arts control?05:04
glj12yes, alsa05:04
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glj12um... via's driver? idk05:04
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lupine_85is it a 5-channel sound card?05:04
trappistglj12: 'pcm' is an often-overlooked volume control.  turn that up?05:04
glj12its on a laptop, so i would asume any new laptop would have that05:05
glj12i tuened up everything i could find =/05:05
glj12arg, and now my icon is gone05:05
glj12:(05:05
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glj12nvm05:05
glj12VIA 8237 is the sound05:06
lupine_85what I'd do, in order... first, the test system: disable arts, get xmms installled and using the ALSA plugin, and playing a .ogg (or something) over and over..05:06
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glj12its onboard, obviously05:06
lupine_85they work in ubuntu. I've got one05:06
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glj12whats arts05:06
lupine_85(using a c-media, but I've had it working on numerous linux systems)05:06
glj12and how do i disable it05:06
lupine_85artsd - lets your system play more than one sound at a time05:06
lupine_85System Settings->Sound05:06
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glj12oh, alright05:07
glj12and then?05:07
lupine_85Untick "Enable the dound system"05:07
Jucatowb Hobbsee (didn't even notice you leave...)05:07
glj12ok05:07
lupine_85erm, sound05:07
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glj12k, gettin there05:07
Hobbsee_Jucato: maybe because i didnt?05:08
Hobbsee_!ghost05:08
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>05:08
Hobbsee_oops05:08
Jucatooh...05:08
glj12lupine_85: i dont see where you untick that05:08
Jucatodarn! I missed the "_" in your name ehehe05:08
lupine_85"Sound system" left icon; "General" tab; first item05:08
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glj12rofl05:09
lupine_85right above "networked sound"05:09
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glj12that was really bad on my part05:09
glj12sorry05:09
glj12>.<05:09
glj12anyway, i unticked that05:09
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glj12then what did you say?05:09
lupine_85install xmms05:10
lupine_85it's ideal for testing purposes05:10
glj12k, rgr that05:10
kristinawhat to do05:10
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kristinaroot@russia:~# apt-get upgrade05:10
kristinaPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig05:10
kristinaAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig05:11
kristinaSie mchten wahrscheinlich apt-get -f install aufrufen, um dies zu korrigieren.05:11
kristinaDie folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:05:11
kristina  vdrift: Hngt ab: libopenal0 ist aber nicht installiert05:11
kristina          Hngt ab: vdrift-data (= 2006-02-21-1ubuntu1) ist aber nicht installierbar05:11
kristinaE: Nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten. Versuchen Sie, -f zu benutzen.05:11
kristinaroot@russia:~#05:11
Jucatokristina:  please use pastebin05:11
lupine_85in it's preferences setting, you want to make sure it's using the "ALSA" output plugin05:11
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Jucato!pastebin05:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:11
glj12lupine_85: ...downloading05:11
kristinasry05:11
lupine_85 kristina: #ubuntu-de ?05:11
Jucato!de05:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:11
glj12ok, i got it05:12
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DeeTahPanLtahi've totally messed up kde settings. how do i reset them,without removing all of ~/ files?05:12
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kristinathanks05:12
JucatoDeeTahPanLtah: which settings in particular?05:12
lupine_85ok, so make sure it's on ALSA and get a song playing over and over05:12
DeeTahPanLtahJucato: no windows borders and kdialog crashes...05:12
glj12lupine_85: what does the play over and over do?05:12
DeeTahPanLtahJucato: or,atm it doesn't even crash,though there are no window borders05:12
lupine_85makes sure that there's always sound going to the soundcard05:13
glj12lupine_85: and does it have to be .ogg >.< ?05:13
JucatoDeeTahPanLtah: for the window borders, try choosing a new window decoration05:13
lupine_85so that you can hear if it's working05:13
glj12ogg only?05:13
lupine_85ogg is better-supported. If you've got mp3 codcs in for certain, use one of those05:13
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glj12ok, i'l use an mp305:13
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glj12lol05:14
glj12i didnt install anything05:14
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glj12it auto-recognized em05:14
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glj12ok, an mp3 is playing05:14
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glj12no sound though05:14
Jucatolol05:14
glj12now what?05:15
lupine_85ok, start with the simple stuff ;)05:15
DeeTahPanLtaherrr05:15
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DeeTahPanLtahafter installing xgl thingies05:15
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DeeTahPanLtahi've lost window borders in every particular user's settings05:15
DeeTahPanLtahhow do i fix this?05:15
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lupine_85open up alsamixer and make sure that all the volume controls are on max and unmuted; remember to scroll right for any extras; and toggle any other switches you come across05:15
DeeTahPanLtahi mean,borders,with _,square and X buttons...05:16
glj12lupine_85: k, did that05:16
lupine_85there are some really strange controls that I don't have a clue about, but control whether you get sound or not05:16
JucatoDeeTahPanLtah: so you're using XGL right now? I'm afraid I won't be much help in that area...05:16
glj12 turned em all up, and green light on all of em05:16
kristinanobody helps me05:16
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lupine_85including things like IEC958 (if you have it?)05:17
kristinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2179805:17
DeeTahPanLtahJucato: yeah,i did05:17
glj12let me check that05:17
glj12yeah, i have it05:17
glj12i turned it up ALL the way05:17
lupine_85next step is the wires :). Unplug and plug into every sound slot you've got; linux sometimes sends sound to the strangest places05:17
glj12lol, laptop05:17
lupine_85so just the one hole?05:18
Jucatokristina: is this German? did you try going to #ubuntu-de ?05:18
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glj122 holes05:18
JucatoI mean #kubuntu-de ?05:18
glj12one for the mic, and one for the headphones05:18
DeeTahPanLtahJucato: but ive turned glx module and still there is none ;<05:18
lupine_85eh, not likely to be much confusion there, then ;)05:18
DeeTahPanLtahturned off*05:18
kristinathere helps nobody05:18
lupine_85is there any other sound hardware?05:18
glj12i have no idea where the speakers are, but you can hear sound if in windows05:18
glj12nopers05:18
kristinanobody writes something05:18
Jucatorawr...05:19
lupine_85ah, integrated speakers05:19
glj12yeah05:19
JucatoI hope somebody understands/speaks German here...05:19
glj12no idea where they are, but by golly, they are there, somewhere...05:19
glj12iche liebe mein hund!05:19
trappistJucato: try #kubuntu-de05:19
glj12:P05:19
lupine_85fraid I don't05:19
Jucatotrappist: not me. kristina...05:19
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grayghostIs anyone familiar with KSql...... is available for kubuntu?05:19
lupine_85except for Rammstein lyrics, anyeay05:19
glj12join #german05:19
glj12lol05:19
Jucatorawr!! not me!!!!05:20
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glj12so, integrated05:20
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ministrykristina: what is the problem?05:20
Jucatokristina is looking for help... no one is answering her over at #kubuntu-de ...05:20
glj12um... VIA 8237, do you need me to look up anything?05:20
lupine_85it's fully supported by linux, so shouldn't need to05:20
lupine_85XMMS complains if the sound isn't getting to the driver05:20
lupine_85so it's somewhere between driver and speakers that you've got the problem05:21
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lupine_85To me, that strongly suggests that the sound is being muted and/or redirected05:21
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glj12hmmm05:21
glj12i wonder where05:21
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lupine_85well, artsd is gone, so you're feeding directly to ALSA.05:23
ruCan anyone help me with broken packages:05:23
ruhttp://pastebin.ca/15096205:23
lupine_85so it's alsamixer backwards05:23
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ministryru: did you try apt-get -check ?05:24
runo didnt know about it05:24
rulet me try thanks05:24
kristinai have problems with the dependences05:25
ministry"check" no "-check" ... sorry05:25
ruE: Opening configuration file heck - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)05:25
ruoh sos05:25
ruyeah05:25
ministrykristina: for which package?05:25
runo errors there05:25
ruit works fine05:25
matthewfgah... whats a safe way of shutting down kubuntu from login screen without display ?05:25
kristinafor all!05:25
kristinai cant install anything05:26
Dr_Willismatthewf,  try alt-ctrl-delete a few times05:26
jasondotgnuhello, is there a way to change the 'normal' font style seems more dark? eg. modify local.conf ?05:26
ministrykristina: strange,,, anyhoo... you could try to do that ru thing :) ap-get check05:26
Dr_Williskristina,   try installing some stuff from the shell and perhaps tell us the error messages?05:26
Jucatomatthewf: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then type "sudo shutdown -h now" to completely shutdown or "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart05:26
trappistmatthewf: ctrl-alt-f1, log in at the console, and say sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:26
ministry*apt-get - damn keyboard05:26
trappistoh to shut down kubuntu05:27
ruI can install most things05:27
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rujust not certain ones that depend on libcairo by the looks of things05:28
kristinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2180005:28
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ministryI've got the same problem with samba which depends on some other packages that are already installed but too new :) I've given up on that...05:28
matthewfnone of that works05:28
gan|y|medhello05:28
matthewfand when i say i have no display i mean no video signal05:29
gan|y|meddoes anybody use the ati drivers in version 8.28?05:29
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glj12sorry, back lupine_8505:29
matthewfor should i just use the power switch05:29
ministrykristina: I've seen the link before and I'm sure many others did as well, but I don't understand the language... I'm ok for localisation, but this makes things damn hard :)05:29
Jucatomatthewf: oh sorry. hardware problem? Ctrl+Alt+Del might work05:29
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JucatoCan't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:30
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ministrykristina: oh... wait... "apt-get check" is the actual command05:31
ministryand you might want to sudo that05:31
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GameOver69hey guys.... i know i hav java installed and im sure i have the firefox plugin installed.. but everytime i go to a webpage that has java firefox crashes... what can i do to fix this?05:37
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ganymed_does anybody use the proprietary ati drivers in version 8.28?05:38
pointwood!easyubuntu05:38
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:38
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azazel35hello !some body speack french here?05:39
glj12no.05:39
Jucato!fr05:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:39
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azazel35thanck05:39
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digitsis it possible to have multiverse for just one package?05:40
dutchany one have a sources.list for edgy ?05:40
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Jucatodutch: people from #ubuntu+1 might have one.05:40
Jucatodigits: what do you mean?05:41
dutchplus1, thanks05:41
Hobbseedutch: if you need to ask, you probably shouldnt run edgy.05:42
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digitsdutch: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Repositories05:42
dutchHobbsee,  it's a practice box...:)05:42
digitsJucato: well i'd like to have flash, but i don't want to be bothered to download the complete multiverse package list every time i apt-get update (but i will want to keep in the loops with flash)05:42
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Hobbseedutch: even so.  can you recover if the system wont let you log into a GUII?05:43
Hobbseecan you still get on the internet, and ask how to fix it if you get stuck?05:43
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digitsThere should be a mandatory 1 week pure console time per year for all Linux users, just to keep the skills up ;)05:44
Hobbseedigits: hehe.05:44
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Jucatodigits: I'm not sure. the whole purpose of APT is to make sure that dependencies will be resolved. If you only enable multiverse for a specific package, APT might not be able to resolvetect dependencies...05:44
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Jucatothat was: "resolveetect"05:45
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Jucatothat was: "resolve/detect"05:45
digitsJucato: ok05:45
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digitsRemind me to never ever promise to set up a working production server in debian for a friend--unless I get paid... ;P05:46
Jucatodigits: I think updating the multiverse package list is only takes a short time after the initial update. only the first update seems to take longer05:46
digitsJucato: ok05:46
Jucato;)05:46
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digitsDisgusting distro Debian... i rephrase; disgustingly slow distro...05:47
Jucatosssshhhh05:47
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digitshehe05:48
Jucatohehe05:48
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gan|y|medhello again05:49
digitshi there05:50
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digitsHobbsee: i hate mine too... luckily my domain doesn't work for the weekend... (i need to propagate it but i can't get into the dns until monday) :D05:51
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Hobbseehehe05:51
Hobbseedigits: it's not really that much of a problem - most is bugmail05:51
gan|y|medmy xv support for the fglrx driver broke when i upgraded to version 8.28. the config dialogue for dual head also disappeared. downgrading to 8.25 still produces the same problem. everytime i try to play a video with the xvideo plugin the x server crashes05:51
gan|y|medany ideas?05:51
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digitsHobbsee: ok, my spamassassin have alot to do in mine :)05:52
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Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:52
cavalletoUn novato busca ayuda05:53
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cavalletono me funciona el comando gedit05:53
Jucato!es05:53
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:53
cavalletome aparece como command not found05:53
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Jucatocavalleto: try "kate" instead of "gedit"05:53
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gan|y|medxvideo extension does not work with fglrx module. any ideas?05:57
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visik7gan|y|med: blame ati06:00
dutchHobbsee, yeah, I made a backup copy of 6.0606:01
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matthewfis nvidia still king of linux driver support btw ?06:02
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Mr_Flibbleyep06:02
gan|y|medvisik7: why should i blame sb.?06:02
matthewfprior to installing ubuntu yesterday my last contact with linux was a year ago you see06:02
gan|y|medvisik7: i would like to solve the problem (in fact, it used to be non-present)06:03
visik7matthewf: at least until intel will release a semi-opensource driver for the next video cards06:03
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Jucatodoes Intel make non-IGP video cards (3D hardware acceleration and non-shared memory)?06:04
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tsdgeosnot since i710 or so i think06:05
Jucatooh... to bad... :-(06:06
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killalbyciao raga06:08
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killalbyun aiuto?06:08
killalbyprob con adept06:09
A|i3Nhey how do I install/run a .sh file? I downloaded a trial version of star office 806:09
Jucato!it06:09
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:09
killalbyok06:09
killalbygrazie06:09
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j2daoshwhats up people06:09
j2daoshgot a question, who in here uses kubuntu with samba?06:09
j2daoshand has windows xp computer on thier home network06:10
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Dr_Willisall the time j206:12
Dr_Willis:P06:12
j2daoshanyone alive here?06:12
j2daoshok06:12
A|i3NCan anybody tell me how to run/install a .sh file???06:12
Jucatohehehe06:12
Dr_Willissh whatever.sh06:12
Dr_Willisthat is SUCH a faq... :P06:12
A|i3Nlol.06:12
Dr_Willisand its chmod +x whatever.run    ./whatever.run06:12
Dr_Willis:)06:12
JucatoDr_Willis: never knew we had one.. ^_^06:12
Dr_Willisits a Linux in general Faq. :P06:12
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Jucatohehehe06:12
Dr_Willisgot to be one of the top 10 things asked06:13
Dr_Willisand dont forget its     ./somecommand   not just  'somecommand' :P06:13
Dr_Willisif its in the current dir...06:13
Dr_Willisand yes theres a REASOn the current directory is not in the path. :)06:13
j2daoshi got a computer upstairs that i need to get into. i dont have a password for the user thought. (i didn't set a password for it). samba doesn't like that though. how do i make samba not care about blank passwords?06:13
Jucatolol06:13
Dr_Willisj2daosh,  easier to set a password for the user. so you can access their home shares06:13
Dr_Willis sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME06:14
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Dr_Willisalso you may want to edit the samba config file to enable writeable home shares06:14
j2daoshthat will let me get into my hom folder?06:14
Dr_Willisyes. :P06:14
JucatoDr_Willis is in such a very helpful mood today, ain't he? 06:14
j2daoshlemme try that06:14
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Dr_Willisthat samba thing is also a top 10 faq. :P06:14
A|i3Nlol...... thank you Dr_Willis.. you da man06:14
Dr_WillisI need to track down a free web site to jot all these down.06:14
Dr_Willisand yes.. ive learned samba and grub and other things over a LONG period of time06:15
JucatoDr_Willis: so what are the remaining 8 FAQ's? I can guess MP3 support is one of them...06:15
j2daoshFailed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user administrator. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?06:15
j2daoshFailed to modify password entry for user administrator06:15
Dr_WillisJucato,  thats too trivial to be a faq. :P06:15
j2daoshthat is what i get for it06:15
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JucatoI wish I had another box to use samba on...06:15
Dr_Willisj2daosh,  Huh?  what command are you using?06:15
A|i3Nwow, it's installing. Awesome;) hehe06:15
j2daoshthe one u just gave me06:16
Dr_Willis sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME06:16
JucatoDr_Willis: ehehe. but still, it's a FAQ, in the literal definition of the acronym 06:16
j2daoshsudo smbpasswd -a administrator06:16
Dr_Willisyou did put in your USERS name - and not 'username' ?06:16
A|i3NError: RPM staroffice-core01 install failed}.06:16
A|i3NInstall complete. Package: staroffice-core0106:16
A|i3Noh that's just lovely06:16
Dr_Willisand not root. :P06:16
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Dr_Willisyou made a user named administrator? egads....06:17
j2daoshwait... are we doing smbpasswd for my user account downstairs?06:17
Dr_Willisor wait - you are trying to make a smbpasswrd for the XP user?06:17
j2daoshxp user06:17
Dr_WillisYou set up the LINUX user with a samba password06:17
j2daoshdo it for my account then?06:17
Dr_Willisnothing at all to do with xp or whoever is on the xp machines06:17
Dr_Willisadduser bgates06:18
j2daoshso i need to make my username have a blank passwd?06:18
A|i3Ndoes... staroffice require anything special on my system to install? like java?06:18
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Dr_Willissmbpasswd -a bgates06:18
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Dr_Willis:P06:18
Dr_WillisI also tend to use the same user names on my xp and linux box's just makes it easier. :P06:18
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j2daoshok... i have the admin account on the xp computer... i need to get into that account from my linux. how do i do this?06:18
Dr_Willisj2daosh,   login as admin i guess under xp and set up some shares. If thats even allowed.06:19
j2daoshi need to add an "administrator" username for smb, and then i do the smbpasswd -a administrator and use a blank passwrd?06:19
Dr_Willisj2daosh,  you are going backwards.06:19
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Dr_Willisto get XP to connect to the Linux home shares - you set up the smbpasswd for the users.06:19
j2daoshno i want to go from linux to xp06:19
Dr_Willisto get Linux to connect to the XP shares.. you can mount them. or use a samba browser tool like smb4k06:20
j2daoshi hate winblows06:20
Dr_Willissmb4k is good. :P06:20
Dr_Willisbut its not installed by default06:20
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Dr_Willisxp should let you make  'open' shares.. but thats not a good idea.06:20
j2daoshi can get to the shares... the only problem is i cant get into my home directories and all that because it is asking for a password for administrator... but the admin account doesn't have a password s it fails me out of the computer06:20
Dr_Willisthe admin account on your XP box dosent have a password?06:21
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Dr_Willis:)06:22
lupine_85question - I've got a brand-new Technikaka (Tesco) keyboard, with all manner of weird 'multimedia' keys. How do I map them to actions? (I've found Regional & accessibility settings, but the buttons don't 'do' anything in the boxes there). I assume it's a keymap thing?06:22
j2daoshnope :)06:22
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j2daoshok you got me... i lied... its not my box... its the mother in laws... but she wants her shit backed up06:23
j2daoshso lucky me... i get to be the guy to do it...06:23
j2daoshlol06:23
j2daoshmother-in-laws06:23
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Dr_Willisid go put a password on the admin account.. or go to IT and  connect upstairs and backup stuff to some home dir you make just for her.06:23
Dr_Willisor fire up smb4k and see.06:23
Dr_Willisits possible that XP wont let you get to the admin stuff in any case.06:24
j2daoshsmb4k huh...06:24
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j2daoshi can on the other computers (but they all have passwords on them)06:24
Dr_Willisthe idea that the admin account can have no password is just soooooo.. such a "MS way of thinking"06:24
lupine_85Zip it all up and upload it to a linux boz using psftp.exe ?06:24
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j2daoshlupine thats too much work06:24
lupine_85:p06:24
j2daosh:P im lazy06:25
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j2daoshif it was the wife or a friend it would be different... its the mother-in-law though to im using minimal effort06:25
j2daosh:)06:25
lupine_85anything involving win is too much work for me06:25
j2daoshlol06:25
lupine_85don't mind my mother-in-law to be, though06:25
j2daoshoh hell yes :)06:25
lupine_858)06:25
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j2daoshi just found out how to hide accounts on xp lol06:26
j2daoshim gonna hide her account :P06:26
j2daoshim such an ass lol06:26
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Nerevaris there any way in kubuntu to tell where it put grub06:27
Nerevarbecause it obviously didnt put it in the right place06:27
lupine_85check the menu.lst file? should be in there, I'd imagine06:27
Nerevarok, and once i deterime where it is, how do i put it in the right place06:28
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Nerevarmy machine still boots into windows, no grub appears06:28
lupine_85grub-install <partition>06:28
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Nerevarso i would do grub-install *windowspartitionthatibooton* ?06:28
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Nerevarwhy didnt the install process put it in the right place?06:29
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mister_unknownwhat did you install first, wind*ws or linux?06:30
Nerevarwind*ws06:30
steveirewindows06:30
Nerevarbut originally i had installed linux first and the hard drive bgan to fail06:30
Nerevarso i mirrored the drive to a new one, and grub was lost06:30
mister_unknownif grub was in the master boot record, it was not mirrored, only the contents of the partitions06:31
Nerevaryeah06:31
mister_unknownyou have to reinstall grub in the mbr to make it work agian06:31
Nerevarthat's exactly what happened06:31
Nerevarhow can i do that06:31
mister_unknowngrub-install, as someone said earlier06:31
Nerevarjust type grub-install and it should work?06:31
mister_unknown"sudo grub-install DEV" where DEV is the harddisk device you use, typically /dev/hda06:31
Nerevarer06:31
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j2daoshok how do i make giu progz run as root in kubuntu?06:32
Nerevarthe device i use to boot right?06:32
mister_unknownkdesu06:32
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mister_unknownyes, the device name of the harddisk, not the single partition on it06:32
j2daoshXlib: connection to "unix:1001.0" refused by server06:32
Nerevarok06:32
lupine_85(if you've got a root password set, you can also use the "Run Command..." menu item)06:32
j2daoshthat is what i get when i try doing graphical stuff as root06:32
lupine_85when you use sudo?06:33
lupine_85(generally I get that under su)06:33
lupine_85annoying environment variables thing, IIRC06:33
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lupine_85chrooted environments, too06:33
j2daoshanytime i do su, sudo, kdesu06:34
j2daoshall of those06:34
lupine_85use the "Run Command" menu item. Try kdesu <program>06:34
lupine_85if that doesn't work, set a root password and select the "run as different user" option; root and password06:35
lupine_85(but kdesu should work)06:35
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j2daoshi need to put root and password in the box?06:37
j2daoshwhat is the format?06:37
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j2daoshroot passwd? root:passwd? root-passwd?06:37
lupine_85Options >>06:38
lupine_85and it all becomes clear :)06:38
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pipperohi, i'm italian and i've never used before kubuntu, only freebsd, a little. i don't find "make"! Why?06:39
lupine_85the "run with a different priority" setting is also handy for things like (e.g.) k3b, amarok, etc06:39
lupine_85pippero: install it first. sudo apt-get install build-essential06:39
pipperook thanks06:39
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lupine_85(that will grab binutils and gcc for you as well)06:40
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andre_does anyone have amsn running on ubuntu with tcl/t/k 8.5?06:40
pipperolupine_85: well, kubuntu says that i haven't build-essential06:41
lupine_85!build-essential06:41
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:41
j2daoshwhat the hell man06:41
j2daoshsmb4k doesn't work half as well as konquer06:42
lupine_85konqueror is a hard target to measure up to ;)06:42
j2daoshkonquer will actually let me get into the computer, smb4k just mounts and wont let me in it06:42
azazel35_how can i go to kubuntu.fr !!!please !06:42
Jucato!fr06:42
lupine_85bet it works better than windows explorer though06:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:42
j2daoshu do /join #kubuntu.fr06:42
Jucatoactually, it's #kubuntu-fr06:42
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azazel35_merci !06:43
pipperolupine_85: it's the same06:43
j2daoshyeah that one06:43
RejistaniaHi06:43
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RejistaniaI somehow FUBARed my repository list06:43
j2daoshok06:43
j2daoshhow am i supposed to browse shares with smb4k06:44
j2daosh?06:44
RejistaniaCan someone please re-send me it?06:44
lupine_85pipppero: it should be there. Ok, try installing make itself -- "sudo apt-get install make"06:44
lupine_85or search for it in adept and install from there if you prefer06:44
RejistaniaI can not run updates atm and fear my system has become vulnerable as *squeak*06:45
lupine_85Rejistania: kubuntu dapper?06:45
Rejistaniayes06:46
lupine_851 second06:46
Rejistaniaoops, it calls itself Breezy Badger06:47
Rejistaniasry06:47
dusty_Hey guys whenever I install something via apt-get install.... i get the following message before it is installed: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gEUBKC97.html was wondering if there is anything I can do to get rid of that message?06:47
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lupine_85http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21811 change dapper to breezy06:48
JucatoI seem to have a problem in Konqueror. It does remember passwords (through the KDE Wallet Manager), but it doesn't automatically log me into pages like Yahoo mail, Gmail, etc. All it does is to fill in the username and password at the login pages, and I still have to click on Login. Is this a normal Konqueror behavior?06:48
Jucatodusty_: what's the exact command you are using?06:48
Rejistaniaty06:49
j2daoshwhat exactly is smb4k supposed to do?06:51
j2daoshwhat is the command to restart samba06:51
j2daosh?06:51
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atidemj2daosh: '$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'06:52
j2daoshok my smb is timing out... why would it time out on a ntwork machine?06:54
phreakysaaah06:54
phreakysfinally06:54
phreakyssudo chown06:54
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phreakysfound it :D06:54
pointwoodThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:54
pointwood  sun-java5-plugin: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable06:54
pointwoodE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).06:54
pointwoodhrmpf06:55
pointwoodwhy do I get that error?06:55
pointwoodor rather, how do I fix it? :)06:55
Rejistanialupine_85: seems to work06:55
phreakysyou could try to remove the whole package?06:55
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phreakyssudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin06:55
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phreakysi got the same error while installing compiz. in the end the cause was a broken package somewhere06:56
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phreakysdeleted the broken package and tried again. worked06:56
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j2daoshhow do i samba through commandline?06:56
j2daoshsmb://hostcomp?06:57
octansmbmount?06:57
j2daoshahh... never thought of that lol06:57
nonicknamehow do i start the tftpd-hpa server?06:57
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nonicknamei already set it as enabled in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, but the network boot from a different comp doesnt see it06:58
nonicknameor something..06:58
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dusty_Jucato, apt-get install <programname>06:59
pointwoodI ran apt-get -f install06:59
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pointwoodthat removed the plugin06:59
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whizz-can i export the list of packages i have installed to a file?06:59
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Nerevarwell, i booted from the live cd, and i tried grub-install sda06:59
Jucatodusty_: are you trying to run it while logged in as root (there's a "#" in the command line)? if yes, try using "sudo" instead, while in a normal user prompt06:59
pointwoodnow I get:07:00
Nerevarand it said permission denied07:00
pointwoodPackage sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:00
pointwoodThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:00
pointwoodis only available from another source07:00
pointwoodE: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate07:00
Nerevari tried from Konsole, and  i tried from run command07:00
Jucatopointwood: is the multiverse component of the repositories enabled?07:00
dusty_Jucato, ok07:01
pointwoodJucato: yes they are07:01
pointwooddeb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse07:01
pointwooddeb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse07:01
pointwoodI got that in my sources.list07:01
Jucatopointwood: not "dapper-backports"07:02
dusty_Jucato, that works :)07:02
pointwoodhrm07:02
dusty_err no it didnt07:02
Nerevarany idea? Maybe i should install again?07:02
JucatoNerevar: you could try searching for a solution in the forums about restoring grub07:02
Jucato[ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:02
dusty_Jucato, http://rafb.net/paste/results/cdlS6H39.html <-- look at what I get now :|07:03
pointwoodahhh07:03
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Jucatopointwood: look for the line with "deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and add "multiverse" to it.07:03
Jucatopointwood: note the plain "dapper", not "dapper-backports"07:03
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Jucatodusty_: it's done. bitchx was installed07:04
slow-motionhallo07:04
pointwoodJucato: yeah, thx07:04
Jucatothose error messages are probably from xorg.conf having settings for wacom when you don't have one07:04
Ash-Fox!de > slow-motion07:04
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slow-motionhi Ash-Fox07:05
Ash-FoxHello slow-motion.07:05
pointwoodlike this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse07:05
Jucatopointwood: yes.07:05
Jucatopointwood: then "sudo apt-get update" and then try installing the plugin again07:06
pointwoodyup07:06
pointwooddoing that now07:06
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pointwoodtaking time - I'm on a slow wimax connection :(07:06
Jucatoit will probably be worth the wait ./l07:07
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Nerevarok so i use this super grub boot disk i guess07:08
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JucatoNerevar: I think you can reinstall GRUB with using just a live CD07:08
whizz-i'm planning to create a multiboot lin/win environment: linux already is on hda1, can i get win (98) to install to hda2 (and running) ?07:09
Jucatobut the instructions on the forums might be a bit more accurate07:09
Nerevarok jucato i am sorry i can't pm you so i will just talk here07:09
Nerevarjucato - i tried the following in kubuntu - grub-install sda   and it said permission denied07:10
Jucatodid you try doing "sudo grub-install sda"?07:10
Nerevarno07:10
Nerevarill reboot and try07:10
Jucatowait...07:10
Nerevarok07:10
Jucatooh ok07:10
dusty_Jucato, I know that.. but what are all those errors...?07:10
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Jucatodusty_: I think it's about xorg.conf having references to wacom settings, when you don't have a wacom tablet07:11
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Jucatofairly harmless, as far as I know07:11
dusty_Jucato, ok but shall i grep xorg.conf for wacom and delete the lines?07:11
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Hawkwinddusty_: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.007:12
Jucatodusty_: why not just comment them out (put "#" at the beginning). Although if it's not causing any problems, I wouldn't touch it07:12
Hawkwinddusty_: Read that how-to on my forums07:12
Jucatooh there!07:12
dusty_thanks07:12
JucatoHawkwind: I just have a short suggestion about that07:12
HawkwindJucato: Suggest away07:13
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JucatoHawkwind: would it be possible you could first show which lines they have to comment/disable, then show them what it would look like afterwards?07:13
Jucatosomething like what it looks like before and after?07:13
D4rklyanyone seen the Xgl video with glmartix very nice effect http://osvids.com/vids/0010/vid_0010.html07:13
BluesKajHowdy all07:14
Jucatohowdy!07:14
HawkwindJucato: Yeah I'll do that here in a minute07:14
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BluesKajso what's the fun today ?07:15
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phreakyshi07:15
redwhat is the default password for the kde wallet, everything i type in doesnt work07:15
pointwoodhrm07:16
phreakyswonder if its possible to setup keys within kde (like super-d would be all windows minimize)07:16
Jucatored: first time kdewallet is launched, it will ask you to create a password07:16
Jucatophreakys: Ctrl+Alt+D07:16
redok07:16
pointwoodit seems to want to install now, but I get this error when doing apt-get install...:07:16
phreakysah nice07:16
pointwoodX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16807:16
pointwood  Major opcode:  14507:16
pointwood  Minor opcode:  307:16
pointwood  Resource id:  0x007:16
pointwoodFailed to open device07:16
phreakystnx jucato07:16
Jucatopointwood: try using !pastebin for pasting07:17
Jucato!pastebin07:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:17
otaku-sanpointwood: don't paste in the channel07:17
phreakysalso possible to setup?07:17
phreakys!keys07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
Jucatophreakys: yep07:17
phreakyscant find the keyboardsettings, like gnome had07:17
Jucatophreakys: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts07:17
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redhow do i launch the kde wallet07:17
phreakysgreat :D07:17
pointwoodsorry, I will use pastebin from now on07:17
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redi only get this when i launch the mail or gaim07:18
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phreakysman, im glad im on kde again now07:18
Jucatored: to launch it manually: press Alt+F2 and type in: kwalletmanager07:18
redthanks07:18
phreakysi dont like gnome at all07:18
Jucatopointwood: does the program still launch, regardless of the error?07:18
pointwoodit launches and then errors out07:18
Jucatophreakys: the Keyboard Shortcuts are for general desktop shortcuts and for launching apps that are in K Menu already07:19
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BluesKajanyone here try medialinux live cd ?07:19
adz21canyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?07:20
Jucatophreakys: Input Actions are for making shortcuts or gestures for other things not found in Keyboard Shortcuts, usually for actions/commands you have made yourself or for programs you want to launch but don't want to add to K Menu07:20
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phreakysi see. nice kde feature07:21
phreakystnx07:21
Jucatoehehe!07:21
Jucatobeats gconf-editor any day 07:21
alex_how to save and to close when i start "sudo vi /etc/fstab"07:21
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Jucatoooh.. calling vi experts... ^_^07:22
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adz21canyone have any idea why the alsa and oss tests might fail for me on cedega?07:23
alex_*|*07:23
alex_+07:23
alex_help me07:23
Jucatoalex_: I think ":save" will save07:23
Jucatoalex_: and ":q" will quit07:24
pointwoodahh...found someone else that had the same error in the forum - seems I have the same problem - some wacom devices have been added to xorg.conf for some reason - wierd07:24
pointwoodreboot...07:24
Jucatopointwood: holdon07:24
BluesKajalex, just ask07:24
Jucatoalex_: next time, might I suggest using Kate instead, or something easier to use like nano?07:25
nonicknameis anyone familiar with netbooting?07:25
trappistalex_: hit escape, then either ZZ or :wq<enter>07:26
alex_there read only07:26
alex_i cant save fstab07:27
alex_how to change it07:27
trappistalex_: as root, you should be able to.07:27
trappistif you're in vim and you still can't, do :w!07:27
trappist(after hitting esc)07:27
Jucatoalex_: "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" or "sudo nano /etc/fstab"07:27
Jucatoalex_: or right-click on fstab in Konqueror and select Actions > Edit as Root.07:28
Jucatotake your pick...07:28
trappistI like 'sudo wine winword.exe /etc/fstab'07:28
Jucatolol07:28
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larson9999xe is the best07:28
ismaelalguien habla espaol07:28
trappistismael: #kubuntu-es07:28
Jucato!es07:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:28
ismaelgracias07:29
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adz21canyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?07:29
BluesKajes!07:29
BluesKaj!es07:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:29
BluesKajright07:29
BluesKaj:)07:30
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larson9999i think i'll try to ge xe into a distro.  i don't think there are any other similar editors included07:30
trappistreal men just use cat and ctrl-d07:31
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klerfaythow to check device id?07:37
trappistklerfayt: what kind of device07:38
klerfaytmore specifically graphics card id07:38
JucatoKInfoCenter?07:38
klerfaytI tried07:38
klerfaytit show id's07:38
klerfayt*doesn't07:38
trappistklerfayt: lspci -v07:39
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Jucatowould "lspci | grep -i vga" work ??07:39
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cerdais there a way to mix subtitles of movies?07:41
cerdainto a single fie?07:41
cerdafile?07:41
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Jucatoisn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?07:41
trappistJucato: sorry, lspci -n07:41
trappistto show device and vendor ids07:41
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HawkwindJucato: Does your xorg.conf still have all the wacom stuff in it uncommented by chance ?07:41
edgarhay alguien que hable espaol?07:42
Hawkwind!es07:42
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:42
Jucatotrappist: I think you addressed the wrong person07:42
trappistoh, oops07:42
trappistI seem to do that a lot lately07:42
Jucatohehehe07:42
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Jucatobut my question was addressed to you, btw07:42
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Jucatotrappist: isn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?07:43
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trappistJucato: never used kinfocenter, but probably07:43
sorush20hi guys is there anyother way that I could do fast searches of my hdd?07:44
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Nerevarprogress07:44
trappistsorush20: a way other than what07:44
JucatoHawkwind: I think so. I never commented it out (yet). But this xorg.conf is an output of nvidia-xconfig07:44
sorush20trappist: thank ctrl + f in konqueror?07:44
JucatoNerevar: how wasit?07:44
trappistsorush20: the fast way is to use locate, but you'll only get files that existed before the most recent run of updatedb07:44
Mezsorush20, what type of fast searches, and other than what07:44
NerevarI used the super grub boot disk, got grub on the computer.. it saw ubuntu and xp, and refused to boot either07:44
HawkwindJucato: Can you look for me.  If so, can you pastebin it for me please07:44
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JucatoHawkwind: sure07:44
Jucatodoing that right now07:44
HawkwindJucato: Thanks :)07:45
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klerfayttrappist: does "lspci -v" show you device id's?07:45
Nerevarso if the automatic grub doesnt work, I guess i have to do it manually, i dont know07:45
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JucatoNerevar: probably. are you trying to install GRUB on the MBR of the first hard disk?07:46
trappistklerfayt: sorry no, that's -n.  but -n doesn't show device names, so you need to find the device first with just lspci, then look for it in the output of lspci -n07:46
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JucatoHawkwind: hope this helps: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21818 (but I will not take responsibility for messed up systems. lol!)07:46
Nerevarjucato:yes07:47
Bulddenhi07:47
janhi all07:47
JucatoNerevar: this is what I usually do. I can't guarantee that it will work 100% for you07:47
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glennhi all07:47
Nerevarjucato: nod... i dont really understand the manual options07:47
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JucatoNerevar: are you now in your working Kubuntu system?07:48
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klerfayttrappist: I got it - 10de:016707:48
Nerevarjucato: no... after the automatic procedure, neither OS would boot07:49
janfirst i want to apologize for my bad english, but i've got a problem07:49
rexdivercan someone help a first timer with kubuntu 6.06.1?07:49
JucatoNerevar: so where are you working from right now?07:49
Nerevari blew out grub and ran fixmbr07:49
Jucatooh07:49
eljefejan and rexdiver, what is it?07:50
rexdiveri just set up my laptop and it's working great but I don't know how to get the wireless nic working07:50
jani want to compile some prgramms but there is no compiler installed, so i downloaded prcompiled rpm. how can i install them?07:50
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Dr_Willisjan,  install the compiler...07:51
Dr_Willis:)07:51
Dr_Williswhat are ya trying to install anyway?07:51
HawkwindJucato: Thanks.  I won't use it specifically, just pull parts from it07:51
sorush20where is all the artwork for kde?07:51
alex_i cant change as root the fstab file . when i want to save there comes "read only file system"07:51
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JucatoHawkwind: yeah, I figured you would. lol07:51
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Jucatosorush20: scattered. depends on which one you're looking for07:52
JucatoNerevar: ok, boot into your Kubuntu Live CD and launch Konsole07:52
janmy question was how to install the compiler :)07:52
Nerevarok07:52
Nerevaroh btw07:52
trappistjan: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:52
Dr_Willisinstall build-essential for a start.07:52
Dr_WillisThats got to bein the tip 10 faq also! ;P07:52
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Nerevarmy internet won't work on the live cd, it wont enabel eth1. the chipset is broadcom 430607:52
Jucatojan: did you check if the program that you are trying to install is available in our repositories?07:53
trappistDr_Willis: if not the top 107:53
trappistthe top 1 will soon be "how do I install firefox2 in dapper"07:53
Jucatoalex_: in Konqueror, look for fstab in /etc. then right-click on the fstab file, select Actions, then select Edit as Root07:53
Bulddenhow open .arj .lzh archives in ark?? i have installed arj and lha but ark not open this filetype07:54
JucatoNerevar: ok07:54
janvia Adept?07:54
eljefeok for the compiler question: do you have a working internet on that machine?  If so, use your K-Menu to go to System --> Adept07:54
JucatoNerevar: better take down notes, then... 07:54
alex_its on an another computer. he doesnt start07:54
eljefeIt will ask for a password, so give it07:54
MezNerevar, for that chipset I believe you need to grab the firmware from somewhere else07:54
eljefethen find a compiler in there (search in Adept)07:54
alex_i can only do something in the terminal07:55
Jucatoalex_: then "sudo nano <filename>" will launch nano (a text editor) as root so you can edit07:55
janahh. thx i've always tried add/remove software ..07:55
tobiasif i have a friend who is very used to windows who wishes to play cs on his computer, and I have convinced him to use linux to play it since they tested it and it worked quicker and stuff, is there anything I should remember or any special linux distrubution that would be perfect for counterstrike gaming? :)07:55
JucatoNerevar: still there?07:55
tobiasis it kubuntu?07:55
alex_i have used nano & vi07:56
eljefeAdd/Remove is for basic boring things, but Adept (or Synaptec) is for more geeky programs07:56
klerfayttobias: how can cs be quicker with emulation on the same hardware?07:56
eljefe:)07:56
Jucatoalex_: did you use "sudo nano" ?07:56
Nerevaryeah07:56
tobiasklerfayt wine is not an emulator07:56
trprtobias: i don't think the distribution matters. either way its a fair amount of work getting cs to run in wine.. but when it does, it is every so sweet :)07:56
tobiasah07:56
Nerevarjucato: i was just hungry realized i iddnt eat today been twinking with this since i got up07:56
alex_but he says read only file system07:56
trappistklerfayt: wine even stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"07:56
tobiassomeone should streamline it!07:56
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rexdivercan someone help with wpa wireless with intel 3945?07:56
alex_yes07:57
Jucatoeljefe: Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to see some programs..07:57
tobiastrpr: is there some kind of batch file that could be made that would make it all so easy?07:57
alex_sudo nano and before sudo -s07:57
JucatoNerevar: ok. in Konsole, type in "sudo grub"07:57
tobiastrpr: and is wine free?07:57
trappisttobias: yes07:57
JucatoNerevar: then "find /boot/grub/stage1"07:57
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tobiastrappist: wine is free?07:57
trappistyes07:58
trprtobias: probably. i havn't looked into it in awhile. for all i know, there is a shiny new howto somewhere. and yeah, wine is free. cedega isn't however07:58
tobiastrappist: good, thanks07:58
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JucatoNerevar: then it will display the partitions where the grub directory is installed07:58
trappisttobias: there's cedega, which is basically wine for games, which is non-free for the binary version, but you can still get the source for free and build it yourself07:58
eljefeBullden I am blocked from private messaging...07:58
tobiasI just mean if im gonna convert people into linux its sucki to have to make them write lots of stuff to make stuff work07:58
Nerevarok07:58
tobiasaha07:58
trprtobias: cedega runs cs out of the box, but it doesn't perform very well.07:58
tobiascool:)07:58
Bulddenok eljefe07:59
tobiastrpr: is it possible to make it perform better?07:59
trappisttobias: it's a shame that our wine package doesn't work out of the box.  there's no reason it can't, except that it would take some work on the part of the packager.07:59
alex_and what now? chmod 777 dont work too07:59
tobiasaha07:59
Nerevarjucato: ill let you know because the install procedure never askedm e where i wanted to put grub.. so i guess it probably put it somewhere wrong07:59
tobiasyeah!07:59
tobiasthe wine package is very importanyt07:59
trappistalex_: don't ever chmod 777 except for /tmp07:59
trappisttobias: I agree07:59
tobiassneak linux in the backdoor gdamnit!07:59
trprtobias: yeah. use wine and not cedega.. i don't know what cedega's issue is with it, but the fps suffers07:59
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tobiasaha07:59
JucatoNerevar: it will be something like "(hd1,0)" <-- in this case, the grub directory can be found in the first partition of the 2nd hard drive (hdb1)07:59
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JucatoNerevar: I'm talking about the /boot/grub directory08:00
tobiascan someone with my limited skills somehow help make an installation package for wine that would kick ass I wonder :D08:00
Bulddeneljefe i have just installed arj lha packages08:00
pointwoodhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2181908:00
trappisttobias: packaging is hard.  but there's no reason you couldn't learn to do it :)08:00
nlindbladis there a deafult hot key combination for switching between the different work spaces?08:00
Bulddenbut not open this filetype with ark08:00
pointwoodI get that error when trying to install sun java08:00
pointwoodI've tried to use easyubuntu earlier...08:01
Bulddenbut i can extract in console08:01
JucatoNerevar: btw, where did you install Kubuntu?08:01
tobiastrappist: cool :) I will find a way and come here and ask silly questions(although I have this friend who is really good with this stuff Il bother mostly) :)08:01
trappistnlindblad: I use ctrl-f1 through f4.  there's another one to move through them, but I don't use it and don't know what it is.  ctrl-arrows maybe.08:01
nlindblad:D08:01
nlindbladthanks08:01
trappistok not ctrl-arrows :)08:01
alex_what to do??08:01
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trappistalex_: what was the original problem?08:02
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alex_i change something in the fstab file & the othe pc does not start08:03
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alex_& now i cant change anything in the fstab file08:04
trappistalex_: uh oh.  you'll probably need to boot to a livecd, mount your filesystem from there, and fix it that way.08:04
JucatoNerevar: anyway, you'll probably only have one output from the "find /boot/grub/stage1" command. it will be (hd#,#)08:04
trappistalex_: why not?08:04
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trappistalex_: if you're on that system, scratch what I said a minute ago about the livecd08:04
JucatoNerevar: now , type in "root (hd#,#)"  (the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1")08:05
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JucatoNerevar: then "setup (hd0)" <-- this will install GRUB in hd0, which is the first hard disk, also known as hda08:05
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JucatoNerevar: then "quit" and reboot08:05
jancu08:06
Nerevarjucato: I installed kubuntu to sda5 and the swap is in sda608:06
D4rklyhow do i install xgl on kubuntu for compiz it says edit gdm. im running kde ???08:06
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trappistD4rkly: then edit the ServerCmd line in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc08:06
alex_how to mount the file system with the live cd?????08:06
JucatoNerevar: ok, then you will probably get something like "(sd0,4)" as the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1"08:06
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trappistalex_: if you're on that system and have access to the file, forget about the livecd.  we just need to figure out why you can't edit it, and fix that.08:07
InuDuelistI'm having a bit of a problm using .deb files, can anyone help?08:07
D4rklyis there a xgl kubuntu guide anywhere ?08:07
JucatoNerevar: I'm not sure if the output will be (hd0,4) or (sd0,4)08:07
D4rkly!xgl08:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:07
trappistInuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.08:07
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trappistD4rkly: there are many known to google08:07
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DBOD4rkly, its essentially the same for gnome and kde08:08
DBOD4rkly, and the ubuntu wiki does cover kde08:08
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Nerevarok, i wrote all that down08:09
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Nerevarjucato just to let you know i boot from my sata drive08:09
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trappistnone of the howtos quite worked for me.  since kde-window-decorator just plain "doesn't work", at least for me, the closest I got was using gnome-window-decorator in kde, which pretty much sucked08:09
JucatoNerevar: if it outputs (sd0,4), the adjust the commands to "root (sd0,4)" and "setup (sd0)"08:10
JRH3K5Hmm08:10
Nerevarnod08:10
JRH3K5I wonder what would happen if I tried to SSH into Kubuntu, and then restart OpenSSH?08:10
trappistJRH3K5: it'll just work.  won't disconnect you or anything.08:10
JRH3K5Oh.08:10
trappistit's pretty slick.08:10
trappistJRH3K5: when you ssh in, you get your own sshd process that isn't killed by the restart.08:11
InuDuelistI'm having a bit of a problem downloading .deb files and using them, can someone help me out?08:11
JucatoInuDuelist: what are you trying to install?08:12
trappistInuDuelist: I responded to you once.  need more information now.08:12
InuDuelistYou responded?08:12
trappist13:07 <trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.08:12
InuDuelistOh, yes.08:12
Jucato<trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.08:12
Jucatoehehe08:12
InuDuelistI opened a query with you, but you didn't respond.08:12
D4rklyin the kubuntu tutorial it says to install compiz-gnome ???08:12
trappistoh, my channel list is bigger than my terminal window.  and, don't do that.  keep support stuff in the channel.08:12
InuDuelistI stated that I didn't really have a choice, as it wasn't in any known repositories.08:12
InuDuelistOk.08:13
trappistD4rkly: there's also compiz-kde but that didn't work for me08:13
trappistInuDuelist: what package.08:13
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InuDuelistHere's one of the many, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4111308:13
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InuDuelistBut it isn't really the package that matters, it's all .debs.08:13
JucatoInuDuelist: most support questions/answers are discussed in the main channel for the benefit of others08:13
InuDuelistI see.08:13
Jucatodeb = package... ^_^08:14
trappistInuDuelist: what happens when you try to install it.08:14
Jucatolol08:14
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InuDuelistWell, in Konquerer, it opens the .deb in Kate, stating that if I attempt to save it, it'll become corrupt.08:14
InuDuelistIn Firefox, it just don't work.08:14
ubuntu_Sqlut /08:14
JucatoInuDuelist: polyester is available from our repositories08:14
trappistInuDuelist: just download it and say sudo dpkg -i filename.deb in the console08:14
D4rklycan someone point me to a kubuntu/kde specific xgl guide :)08:14
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ubuntu_>nick Aloowan08:14
trappistor listen to Jucato who knows something I don't know08:15
InuDuelistIt saves in under one second, and gives me an error message when I attempt to open it.08:15
Jucatolol08:15
ubuntu_erf /08:15
JucatoInuDuelist: the Polyester style can be installed from our repositories08:15
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Jucato!kde-style-polyester08:15
InuDuelistCan it?08:15
ubotukde-style-polyester: The Polyester widget style for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 440 kB08:15
JucatoInuDuelist: yep. pretty sure. I have it installed08:15
InuDuelistAlright, but for the rest of my .debs?08:15
trappistapparently it's in universe08:15
InuDuelistthey all get the same problem.08:15
trappistInuDuelist: don't install software that way.  if you have to install a .deb (which is pretty rare, actually) just download it to your home directory and say 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb' in a console.08:16
JucatoHm... actually this seems to be a problem in Konqueror08:16
InuDuelistTried it.08:16
InuDuelistError Message:08:16
InuDuelisthttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4111308:16
Jucatotrappist: the problem is something with Konqueror and KDE-Look08:16
InuDuelistGr.08:17
InuDuelistError Message"08:17
InuDuelistThe utility is not in your PATH.08:17
InuDuelistPlease install it or contact your system administrator.08:17
InuDuelistI am the system administrator, and I'm trying to install it.08:17
trappistJucato: that would be an ironic incompatibility08:17
Jucatotrappist: Konqueror sees the link as a PHP file, and so tries to open Kate. if you right-click Save Link As, it will try to save a PHP file08:18
Jucatosometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't08:18
trappistthat's funny.  surely you get the option to download it if you just left-click it?08:18
InuDuelistIn Konquerer, no.08:18
JucatoInuDuelist: try right-clicking on the download link and select Save Link As08:18
InuDuelistin Firefox, yes.08:18
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Jucatodoes it try to save as document.php08:19
InuDuelistIt does what you stated, tries to save it as download.php08:19
Jucatoehehe08:19
InuDuelist:P08:19
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InuDuelistI'll be back in a minute.08:19
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trappistJucato: yeah bug gmail isn't :)08:19
Jucatotrappist: what Gmail bug? Gmail working perfectly here...08:20
trpreh. i hate links like that.. try to get a url for wget and you end up with download.php08:20
RawSewagehow do you enable CD/DVD eject button08:20
trappistRawSewage: you have to umount the drive first08:20
trappistas in sudo umount /dev/cdrom08:20
RawSewageI know.  I dont want to08:20
RawSewagetheres a way to make the button work08:20
RawSewageI forgot08:21
D4rklythere is eject in bin08:21
InuDuelistBack.08:21
Jucatotrappist: I have a strange experience today: the eject button works just by pressing the button... even when there's a CD inside...08:21
InuDuelistWhat's next?08:21
trappistRawSewage: some distros use supermount, which imho sucks but makes that possible.  that's the only solution I know.08:21
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trappistJucato: if there's a cd inside, it's not necessarily mounted.  only mounting it makes it unejectable.08:21
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RawSewageIm pretty sure theres a way to make the eject button work08:22
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JonTec!Tilib08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Tilib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
RawSewageregardless of mounting08:22
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Jucatotrappist: so if I put a CD inside, then a program uses it, then I close the program, it's not considered mounted?08:22
JonTec!tilip08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tilip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
trappistRawSewage: I've spent many hours searching for a solution so I could install multi-cd games in wine.  afaik there is none except supermount, which would involve patching the kernel.08:22
CatSoupi'm sure this has been asked about a million times, but how do i get flash to work on konqueror? <---- noobie08:22
D4rklyoh eject is in /usr/bin/ you can make a link on your desktop then you will have an eject button :)08:23
trappistD4rkly: yeah but that still won't work while the cd's mounted08:23
Jucatoor make a keyboard shortcut for it...08:23
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D4rklyi think it does08:23
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Jucatotrappist: about the multi-cd installers, it doesn't work even if you try to run the installer with wine from the command line?08:24
trappistJucato: no. the problem is that the installer is running *from* the cd, which means you can't umount the cd (it's in use) until you quit the installer.08:24
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krauti recreated my / on a dmcrypt with ext3. my /boot is a normal ext2. normally the initrd should contain the dm_crypt modules. if i want to boot the system, i get an error 24 of grub.08:25
Jucatotrappist: hm.... this is what I did while trying to install DS108:25
ravenouscopy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there08:25
krauthas anybody an idea what i do wrong?08:25
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Jucatotrappist: install with wine from the command line, then eject the CD by right-clicking it in Konqueror08:25
Jucatoit worked for me08:25
kraut24 : Attempt to access block outside partition08:25
kraut    This error is returned if a linear block address is outside of the disk partition. This generally happens because of a corrupt filesystem on the disk or a bug in the code handling it in GRUB (it's a great debugging tool).08:25
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trappistJucato: that's pretty cool.  I never could get baldur's gate 2 installed once I quit using mandrake, which used supermount08:26
Jucatotrappist: hope it works for you, too. 08:27
trappistJucato: it just so happens I've lost interest in all my multi-cd games, but hopefully it'll work for RawSewage :)08:27
ravenousi know with ut2k4 you just have to copy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there and it will let you switch the rest of the cds out no problem08:28
Jucatoehehe08:28
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nath3000Hi- got a bit of a problem here. I'm trying to install packages, but everytime told gsfonts-x11 needs to be installed. So it tries to install it, but fails because the postinst is trying to run update-fonts-dir with an option it won't handle (namely -x11r7-layout). Help?-08:28
trappistRawSewage: yeah that one's easy, because the installer's not running from the cd (also I have the dvd version so it's not an issue anyway :))08:28
fdoving   away08:28
trappistnath3000: sounds like a bug08:28
fdovinggah..08:29
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nath3000trappist: I don't know how important that option is- if I could rebuild it without that option, maybe it would make dpkg/dselect complete and be happy08:29
trappistnath3000: you could try having a look at the postinst script and maybe comment out that line08:30
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trappistnath3000: should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/gsfonts-x11.postinst08:31
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nath3000trappist: I've never played with .deb files before- I found I needed two commands to extract the contents. One to get the files that will go on the filesystem, and the other to extract the DEBIAN dir with the postinst08:31
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trappistnath3000: you're using dapper?  my gsfonts-x11 postinst doesn't use that option08:31
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trappistnath3000: you don't need to mess with the .deb - just edit the postinst script on your filesystem08:31
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trappist(I think)08:32
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sbartleylinuxIf I want to restrict ssh access to my server but still have ltsp clients work, how should I configure sshd_config?08:32
nath3000trappist: Oh yes, I see it- I didn't realise it cached them like that. Okay, I've edited it (removed the troublesome option).08:32
InuDuelistWhat's the command to search all folders within a folder?08:33
Hawkwindgrep -R or you can use find08:33
trappistnath3000: you're on dapper?  I'm awfully curious where that package came from08:33
InuDuelistThanks.08:33
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trappistInuDuelist: are you searching for a file by filename or by contents08:33
nath3000trappist: Yep, Dapper. The original one.08:34
InuDuelistI'll looking for a folder08:34
InuDuelistFilename.08:34
InuDuelistWell, keyword.08:34
trappistnath3000: I wonder why my postinst script for gsfonts-x11 doesn't have that option08:34
nath3000trappist: It had had all the updates applied a few days ago.08:34
trappistInuDuelist: find . -type d -name '*keyword*'08:35
trappistnath3000: I had mine applied a few minutes ago08:35
nath3000trappist: gsfonts-x11_0.20_all.deb08:35
trappistnath3000: mine is 0.17...08:35
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trappistnath3000: apt-cache policy gsfonts-x1108:36
nath3000trappist: and the script that is moaning about the option it doesn't understand, update-fonts-dir, that comes from xfonts-utils08:36
Jucatotrappist: I may have a sort of "workaround" to InuDuelist's (and my) downloading problem08:36
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trappistnath3000: my xfonts-utils is 6.8.2.1-508:36
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draikJucato!08:37
Jucatohi draik!!08:37
trappistJucato: kick kde-look for using such a round-about and non-konqueror compatible download link?08:37
nath3000trappist: mine too08:37
Jucatolol08:37
trappistnath3000: what does apt-cache policy gsfonts-x11 say08:37
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trappistnath3000: | grep 50008:38
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Jucatotrappist and InuDuelist: whenever Konqueror tries to open/save something as a PHP file, just rename the download into it's appropriate file type, in this case I renamed it "polyester.deb"08:38
nath3000trappist: 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages08:38
trappistJucato: ew.  but glad it worked :)08:38
fdovingtrappist: 'apt-cache madison package' is nice :)08:38
Jucatoehehe08:38
trappistnath3000: maybe there's an update that's hit that mirror but not mine?  I'm pretty confused.08:39
draiklovely save as feature...08:39
Jucatofdoving: I just learned that command the other day. it's good... ^_^08:39
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trappistfdoving: oh, that *is* nice08:39
InuDuelistJucato, thanks for that.08:39
InuDuelistAnyone use Yakuake?08:39
draikI do08:39
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fdovingJucato: and after you've saved it as polyester.deb, you can use 'dpkg-name polyester.deb' to get the proper name on it.08:40
nath3000trappist: My friends machine on which this problem exists (and I am typing from) isn't on broadband, but I am. So I downloaded "by hand", hoping to install. I think that might be connected in some way08:40
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InuDuelistDo you know how to use an installed theme?08:40
Jucatofdoving: yep. or just right-click on it08:40
trappistnath3000: I guarantee it is.  you almost certainly got the edgy package.08:40
JucatoInuDuelist: in this case, Polyester is a widget Style08:40
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fdovingJucato: dpkg-name will rename it automagically, to the nice debianized name.08:40
InuDuelistJucato, I'm talking about a yaKuake theme.08:40
trappistnath3000: confirmed, 0.20 is the edgy version08:40
nath3000trappist: But I dialed up, and there's no updates waiting for me except some amarok-related ones08:40
JucatoInuDuelist: oooh..08:40
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Jucatofdoving: ok... I just misread what you said.. sorry about that08:41
nath3000trappist: ooo, they have some problem then...I definitely got that file from the ubuntu directory08:41
InuDuelistIt's ok, but do you know how?08:41
trappistnath3000: no, you downloaded an edgy package that shouldn't have let you install it.08:41
JucatoInuDuelist: unfortunately, the only time I tried a Yakuake theme, it made it crash08:41
InuDuelistI see.08:41
trappistnath3000: 'ubuntu' isn't enough.  there's ubuntu dapper (what you're running) and ubuntu edgy (the repo you got the package from)08:41
Jucatofdoving: a very handy tool, dpkg-name truly is08:42
trappistnath3000: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gsfonts-x11/+bug/5280308:42
eljefedelitonath3000: its like saying Windows or MacOS.  There are more than one version.08:42
fdovingJucato: sure is :)08:42
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InuDuelistJucato, do you know where I choose the theme?08:43
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InuDuelistI installed one, but I can't find it anywhere.08:43
nath3000trappist: Sorry, what I meant to say was that I was sure I got it from the dapper directory...but now I see there isn't one on the main archive mirrors08:43
InuDuelistEr, in Yakuake options, that is.08:43
JucatoInuDuelist: for Yakuake?08:43
InuDuelistYes.08:43
JucatoInuDuelist: it should have an instruction for it..08:43
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nath3000trappist: So what I think happened is I got confused, and assumed I was in the dapper files, when I was in non-version specific territory, with dapper, edgy, etc all in together08:44
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InuDuelistJucato, all it says is that the name is "Pure Technology".08:44
InuDuelistNothing else.08:45
Jucatooh... sorry I'mnot familiar with it..08:45
fdovingnath3000: using http://packages.ubuntu.com is advisable.08:45
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atticstormAll has anyone had any luck getting the Hawking H-WU36D Wireless USB network adapte working?  I tried it plug an play and Kinfocenter saw it as unknown.  I also tried ndiswrapper with no change other than breaking my PCMCIA wireless card - backed out and undone.  Have not seen anything on any webpages.08:45
InuDuelistAw.08:45
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trappistnath3000: could very well be08:46
atticstormUpdate I have a email out to Hawking Tech, but no reply as yet.08:46
digitswhat's teh kubuntu version of gksudo?08:46
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Jucatodigits: kdesu08:46
nath3000fdoving: Cheers. In future though, I'm not going to bother trying to cart over debs to his house- he can bring his box to my house and get them via broadband using adept or something :)08:46
trappistdigits: kdesu08:46
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pointwoodargh! doh! stupid! to accept the sun java license you have to tick a checkbox at the end of the license, I've just clicked next...08:46
digitsthanks08:46
fdovingnath3000: in the filestructure of the mirrors you'll find all versions of a package (<breezy, dapper and edgy) all mixed in one directory. There are 'Packages' files to keep track of which version belongs to what release.08:46
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sbartleylinuxCan anyone help with an ubuntu ltsp server ssh configuration?08:47
nath3000trappist: Well, that seems to have worked, dpkg was happy to replace the broken, almost-installed EE one with the dapper one08:47
trappistnath3000: good deal08:47
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trappistnath3000: for future reference, if you have to do something like that, sudo apt-get install --download-only packagename and get the file from /var/cache/apt/archives08:48
fdovingnath3000: good solution. or you could 'apt-get clean' and then 'apt-get install --reinstall' what he wants (drop --reinstall if you haven't got it installed already), and copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/08:48
trappistfdoving: or that08:48
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fdovingtrappist: -d is also smart, yes. :)08:48
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nath3000trappist: And the reason I was doing this was to install testdisk- but the version apt-get finds is really old...6.1 from 2005 versus 6.408:49
Jucato!pastebin > Jucato08:49
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trappistnath3000: the stuff apt-get finds is what's available for your release.  going to look for newer stuff is likely to break things.08:50
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nath3000trappist: the --download-only is for me to run on my box at home, to grab the *correct* version of the file, safe to take round on something like my external hard drive?08:50
trappistnath3000: yes08:50
fdovingyes, and it will get the dependencies too.08:51
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nath3000trappist: That's great. Well, here;'s hoping testdisk isn't too old to work. I've got to grab some video off of a DVB-T set top box's hard drive which my friend erased...finger's crossed!08:52
InuDuelistAnyone know how to install a Yakuake skin?08:52
nath3000Thanks trappist/fdoving08:52
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trappistJucato: "hole"08:53
trappist:)08:53
Jucatolol08:54
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JucatoI'm 4 hours waaaay past my bedtime..08:54
terry_ok... i'm a linux noob, how do i install packages using kubuntu?08:54
tsdgeosusing adept08:54
terry_go on. :)08:54
terry_i downloaded a game off the ubuntu site, and it gave me a debian binary thing.08:55
tsdgeosthere is a "add/remove programs entry" in the k-menu08:55
trappistterry_: avoid that whenever possible08:55
aliasfred!adept08:55
tsdgeosah08:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:55
tsdgeosyou have a .deb ?08:55
terry_yes.08:55
tsdgeossudo dpkg --install file08:55
aliasfredsudo dpkg -i yourpackagenamegoeshere.deb08:55
terry_...sudo?08:56
Dr_Willisterry_,  use the package manager. :P no need to manually download the thing.08:56
Dr_Willis!sudo08:56
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:56
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Dr_WillisYou are thinking in windows terms. :)08:56
irrelevantterry_: if you right-click on the .deb file, there's a option to install08:56
terry_i have a lot of learning to do. :(08:56
Dr_WillisYep08:56
terry_true, but it asks for a password08:56
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Dr_Willis#1 - fire up adept, and look for games08:57
terry_and when i type, no letters come up08:57
Dr_Willissudo password is the first users password08:57
Dr_Willisand of COURSE you dont want the password shown as you type.08:57
terry_well nothing happens after i type it and press enter.08:57
Dr_WillisLogical eh? :P and no it dont print *'s  as you type either.08:57
gomekclick the box in order to type in it08:57
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Dr_WillisComputers 101. heh..08:58
terry_crap...08:58
gomekthe only time i don't get *'s is when i sudo from the command prompt08:58
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terry_hmm.08:58
terry_something blew up. :-/08:58
InuDuelistYou'd think that there'd be some sort of guide somewhere on the internet as to how to install Yakuake themes.08:59
InuDuelistBut there isn't.08:59
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terry_wth is yakuake?08:59
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JucatoInuDuelist: frustrating isn't it?08:59
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InuDuelistYakuake is a terminal program.08:59
InuDuelistIt rolls down from the top of the screen.08:59
InuDuelistWith the push of a button.08:59
JucatoInuDuelist: you "might" get some help from #yakuake08:59
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irrelevantInuDuelist: where did you get the theme?08:59
trappistInuDuelist: most well-made themes contain installation instructions in a README or INSTALL file in the tarball08:59
InuDuelistWhoa.08:59
InuDuelistThat's a channel.08:59
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terry_hmm.09:00
InuDuelisttrappist, all it does is state what the name is.09:00
terry_each time i try to install a package it comes up with dependency problems09:00
Jucatotrappist: unfortunately, some things in KDE-Look are far from being "well-made" or even documented at all..09:00
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gomekwhere are you trying to install from terry09:00
trappistInuDuelist: well, I did say 'well-made' themes :)09:00
trappistJucato: no kidding09:00
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Jucatotrappist: no, I was just kidding. lol09:00
Jucato09:00
irrelevantInuDuelist: kde-look usually has instructions for everything... one here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4102109:01
InuDuelistIt's a shame that nobody is alive in there.09:01
trappistJucato: I should hold my tongue though - I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of poorly documented stuff on kde-look09:01
draikKDE-look almost crashed my 2nd install of Kubuntu09:01
GameOver69hey whenever i visit a flash webpage with firefox.. it crashes... i deleted the plugin... the webpage will load but iwthout flash... i reinstall the flash through firefox and it crashes again... can someone help me out iwth this please?09:01
Jucatotrappist: of course.. I bet you can even get a poorly done theme working 09:01
terry_gomek:i think i got it09:01
gomekthe flast for linux is old09:01
draikGameOver69, did you get the plugin?09:01
gomekflash*09:01
terry_i just had to install a package that would let that package work.09:01
draiklook for the mozilla plugin09:01
GameOver69draik, yes09:01
InuDuelistOf course that would work.09:01
InuDuelist>_M09:01
InuDuelist>_<*09:02
Jucatoterry_: what are you trying to install and how are you doing it?09:02
GameOver69draik, it used to work fine.. now it always crashes09:02
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InuDuelistTime to try it out.09:02
draikweird09:02
trappistJucato: it's been said that documentation is like sex.  if it's good it's very good, and if it's bad it's still a lot better than nothing.09:02
draikI have mine installed, but no issues09:02
Jucatoroflmao09:02
draiktrappist, LOL... that's funny!09:02
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GameOver69draik, also.... i ahve java installed... i can tell it works because azureus works.. but it doesnt work in firefox09:03
InuDuelistYakuake, for all those that want it, is in the repositories.09:03
InuDuelistAnd here.09:03
InuDuelisthttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153ontent=3666009:03
draikcheck for both firefox and mozilla plugins09:03
InuDuelistMmm... Yakuake.09:03
GameOver69draik, Shockwave Flash09:03
GameOver69    File name: libflashplayer.so09:03
GameOver69    Shockwave Flash 7.0 r2509:03
cristianHola a todos09:03
GameOver69see thats whats in about:plugins09:03
GameOver69so it has the flash  plugin09:03
trappistGameOver69: open source java packages will work for some things like azureus, but not for other things - either you haven't installed the java *plugin* or you haven't installed sun's java package.09:03
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GameOver69so i dont know why everything freezes09:03
gomeki use flashplugin-nonfree09:04
cristianalguien habla espaol?09:04
gomekno hablo espanol09:04
trappistGameOver69: or you're on amd64.  there's no 64 bit java plugin.09:04
GameOver69no 32bit09:04
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trappistGameOver69: if things freeze when you hit a java applet, odds are you have a plugin installed for a non-sun java package.09:04
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trappistGameOver69: update-alternatives --list java | grep sun09:05
GameOver69trappist, i have sun-java-bin installed09:05
trappistGameOver69: in that case, sudo update-alternatives --config java and select the sun jre option09:05
GameOver69trappist, /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java09:05
GameOver69thats what it showed09:05
GameOver69thats the one thats selected :(09:06
GameOver69  Selection    Alternative09:06
GameOver69-----------------------------------------------09:06
GameOver69*+        1    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java09:06
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trappistGameOver69: then, things should work :)  ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so09:06
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InuDuelistGah.09:07
draikI have    *+    4        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java09:07
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InuDuelistI bit my tongue.09:07
GameOver69i dont have that directory09:07
Nookiewhat package is missing when trying to compile and getting this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"09:07
marchhi09:07
trappistdraik: I don't think that's a java package09:07
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GameOver69i believe my firefox is in /opt/firefox/09:07
trappistGameOver69: how did you install firefox?09:07
trappistoh.09:07
GameOver69manually09:07
trappistI sure don't know why09:07
GameOver69its faster then ubuntu package09:08
trappistwell, look for the plugins directory in there and see what your libjavaplugin.so file is symlinked to09:08
draikI'm good with the Kubuntu install of firefox09:08
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trappistdraik: I *have* heard that the mozilla.org one is faster09:08
InuDuelistFeck, it's stinging.09:09
trappistwhich is insane.  there's no reason it should be.09:09
InuDuelistRemind me never to eat again.09:09
draikI haven't heard anything about it until now... so far I'm happy09:09
trappistmaybe just by virtue of being statically compiled.09:09
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GameOver69trappist, /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so09:10
trappistGameOver69: oh, then sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so09:10
irrelevantI think there was an issue with the Firefox that came with Hoary or Breezy... don't think it's a problem any more09:10
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trappistGameOver69: is there another file in the plugins directory called libjavaplugin_oji.so ?09:11
GameOver69yes09:11
trappistwhat's that point to?09:11
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GameOver69/usr/lib/jre... etc09:12
GameOver69j2re...09:12
GameOver69its pretty long09:12
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trappistGameOver69: does it have 'sun' anywhere in it?09:12
GameOver69yes09:13
trappistok09:13
GameOver69j2re 1.5 - sun09:13
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trappistand did you do the sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so ?09:13
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GameOver69yes09:13
GameOver69said only one program09:13
GameOver69no need09:13
trappistI see.09:13
trappistGameOver69: have you tried with more than one java applet?09:13
GameOver69There is only 1 program which provides firefox-javaplugin.so09:13
GameOver69(/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so). Nothing to configure.09:13
GameOver69well heres the thing... i just changed the directories... and now java works.....09:14
GameOver69but09:14
GameOver69flash still crashes09:14
GameOver69how do i fix that09:14
InuDuelistw00t.09:14
InuDuelistI got it installed.09:14
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trappisthah.09:14
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trappistGameOver69: where does your libflashplayer.so point09:15
GameOver69hey trappist will the sun java that i have installed from the repo, be updated to 6 whenever it is finally released?09:15
GameOver69trappist, its not in there09:16
trappistGameOver69: not likely.  we usually only get bugfixes and security fixes backported, not whole new versions of software.09:16
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trappistGameOver69: well there's your problem09:16
trappistGameOver69: should look something like this:09:16
trappistlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   44 Jun 13 16:32 flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt09:16
trappistlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   46 Jun 13 16:32 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so09:16
terry_Gameover: did you just try to install java on firefox? because i need to do that too.09:16
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GameOver69trappist, ok so how do i get it to look like that09:17
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InuDuelistFeck.09:17
InuDuelistStill having problems.09:17
InuDuelistStupid mismatched colorschemes.09:17
trappistGameOver69: cd to the plugins dir and say 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt' and do the same for the other file09:17
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GameOver69i dont think i have the non free installed... i think ijus thave installed what mozilla installs09:19
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GameOver69trappist?09:21
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tonyazphola09:23
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pointwoodI have kubuntu installed on a thinkpad z61t which have a Intel core duo (dual core) cpu. Linux should automatically detect and use both CPU's shouldn't it? how do I check that it uses both?09:24
pussfelleris the samba printing section of the kcontrol module hosed?09:25
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tonyazpme podeis ayudar con amaroK?09:25
pussfellercause I cannot seem to export my HP09:25
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pussfeller!printing09:25
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:25
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terry_ok. is there any definitive answer for the problem concerning java in konqueror?09:26
tonyazpcomo se reproduce musica en amaroK, no me deja reproducir nada porke tengo que crear listas de reproduccion09:27
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nonicknamehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot .. using this, i have been able to get the comp i'd like to install linux on to find my dhcp server, but now it says loading pxelinux.0...... and doesnt change09:28
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nonicknameactually, it says "transferring pxelinux.0 (010011)"09:30
nonicknameand that's it09:31
nonicknameis there a specific place i can get help netbooting?09:31
Fabsfabiolahi, I need help....09:32
nonicknameme too =(09:32
FabsfabiolaI've installed the Kubuntu recentlly09:32
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Fabsfabiolaand, every time that I need save something at the disket.... gives a message error...09:34
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digitsis the fglrx drivers known to not work with kubuntu?09:34
fdovinggood night.09:35
digitsfdoving: nite09:35
Fabsfabiolai'sorry with my inglish....09:36
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irrelevantFabsfabiola: what's the error message?09:36
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Fabsfabiolahummm... do you undertand portuguese?!09:36
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irrelevantnot a bit09:37
brkamikazeFabsfabiola: yes09:37
Fabsfabiola:)09:37
Fabsfabiolanao foi possivel montar o dispositivo, o erro informado foi: mount: de acordo com mtab. /dev/fd0 ja esta montado em / media/fd0 mount falhou09:38
irrelevantprobably a floppy, might not know to mount it09:38
brkamikazeFabsfabiola: put a LANG=C before the command to help09:39
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brkamikazebut this means that the floppy is already mounted09:39
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Hawkwind!pt09:39
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:39
Fabsfabiolahumm. sorry?!  "lang"09:39
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brkamikazeFabsfabiola: if you used konsole, you just need to prefix a command with "LANG=C " to see it in english09:40
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pussfellerwow, you dont have to mess with samba anymore for printing from 2k/XP :)09:41
Fabsfabiolaok...  can you explain the pass to pass, with command at the Konsole?!09:41
InuDuelistKonzole?09:41
InuDuelistEr.09:41
InuDuelistKonsole?09:41
InuDuelistUse Yakuake.09:41
InuDuelistIt'll never give you problems.09:41
InuDuelist>_<09:41
brkamikazeInuDuelist: Yakuake uses a Konsole "backend"09:41
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InuDuelistbrkamikaze, rolldown screen.09:42
InuDuelistYummy.09:42
InuDuelistAnyway, I'm off09:42
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InuDuelistI'll be back later, thanks for all your help.09:42
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pussfelleryakuake ran buggy for me, personally09:43
pussfellermaybe was an old version09:43
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Fabsfabiolabrkamikaze ?! sorry, I'll need some patience, I'm a new user linux...09:43
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pussfellerwhy don't my cd/cdr drive show up in K3b?????09:44
slow-motionn809:44
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brkamikazeFabsfabiola: so forget about konsole, you're probably not using it anyway if you don't know what I'm talking about ;)09:44
pussfelleris there a new version of kde for dapper or something?09:45
brkamikazepussfeller: should be09:45
brkamikazebut adept still doesn't show a thing09:45
Fabsfabiolabrkamikaze if u explain becareful... I can do....09:45
brkamikazeFabsfabiola: that would only be useful if you were at the console09:45
pussfelleri was wondering what the topic meant09:46
brkamikazeis your whole system in portuguese?09:46
pussfeller3.5.4 available for dapper09:46
pussfelleranyways, the main thing I need to fix is k3b or anything not seeing my cd drives09:46
brkamikazepussfeller: what's your CD recorder?09:46
pussfeller/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       009:47
pussfeller/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       009:47
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brkamikazepussfeller: ah09:47
brkamikazethey're both readonly09:47
pussfellerwell, still niether appear  in k3b09:47
pussfellerneither09:47
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InuDuelist-AFKCan someone refresh my memory as to how to mount my hda1 windows drive?09:48
brkamikazepussfeller: try removing the "ro," part from fstab and restarting k3b09:48
Fabsfabiolabrkamikaze I've done some commnads, is just u explain me with patience, rs  sorry... I want to learn09:48
pascalHi anyone can help me with an atheros wifi card?09:48
pussfelleri made it rw09:49
brkamikazeFabsfabiola: when you use any console command09:49
brkamikazeit uses variables09:49
brkamikazeLANG is one of them09:49
brkamikazeif you tell it that the LANG value is C09:49
Fabsfabiolafor change pswd, rs  simple things, rs09:49
brkamikazeit will spit the text in english09:49
InuDuelist-AFK"Can someone refresh my memory as to how to mount my hda1 windows drive?"09:49
InuDuelist-AFKAnyone?09:49
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brkamikaze"LANG=C cat --help"09:49
brkamikazewill show help in english09:50
pussfellerwhen i put em in manually, /dev/hdd it sez nothing available at those things09:50
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InuDuelist-AFKI...09:50
InuDuelist-AFKguess not.09:50
InuDuelist-AFKMounting a drive?09:51
InuDuelist-AFKAnyone?09:51
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HasserfuelltAnyone Knows the chan for german Ubuntu users?09:51
trappistjaaroo_: #ubuntu-de09:51
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trappisterr09:51
pussfeller!ntfs09:51
trappistHasserfuellt: #ubuntu-de09:51
Hasserfuelltthx!09:51
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InuDuelist-AFKtrappist, would you happen to know how to mount a drive?09:51
InuDuelist-AFK:P09:51
pussfeller!windows09:52
pussfellerhmm is bot down09:52
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: I do09:52
InuDuelist-AFKGreat.09:52
InuDuelist-AFKhda1, windows.09:52
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: and by 'windows' you mean fat32 or ntfs?09:52
InuDuelist-AFKntfs09:52
InuDuelist-AFKSorry about that.09:52
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brkamikazeInuDuelist-AFK: mount can figure out this09:52
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt09:53
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: it will be read-only09:53
InuDuelist-AFKNo writing?09:53
InuDuelist-AFKThat's fine.09:53
pussfelleryou might want to lead him to fuse ntfs, if you want RW support for ntfs09:53
brkamikazeInuDuelist-AFK: or just open Storage Media from the system menu09:53
InuDuelist-AFKAs long as I can access the drive.09:53
brkamikazeand click on the HD09:53
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: not for ntfs, without some extra effort, no09:53
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brkamikazepussfeller: the write support is still restricted AFAIK even for the FUSE driver09:54
trappistInuDuelist-AFK: btw changing your nick to indicate away status is frowned upon, and it's even less useful when your nick is -AFK when you're clearly not afk09:54
CapNemodamned ! why kdevelop has only qt in the doc pannel !?09:54
InuDuelist-AFK...09:54
InuDuelist-AFK"Permission denied"09:54
pussfellerno, fuse uses the native drivers09:54
InuDuelist-AFKtrappist, I'm leaving in a minute.09:54
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InuDuelist-AFKI just had a bit of time left.09:54
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pussfellererr, rather the ntfs thinggee does09:54
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brkamikazeInuDuelist-AFK: if /dev/hda1 is in your fstab09:55
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brkamikazeInuDuelist: a simple "sudo mount /dev/hda1" on the console will do09:55
InuDuelistI managed to Oh?09:55
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whatever"dev/sda1" is the usual device 'address' on my system for my pendrive. it automounts nicely, but currently..09:55
whateverit isnt there !09:55
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brkamikazewhatever: insert your pendrive first! :D09:56
InuDuelistWell, my files are mounted. I see it within /mnt.09:56
whatever"ls /dev/sd*" - gives no results09:56
InuDuelistBut...09:56
whateverbrkamikaze: it is inserted09:56
InuDuelistI can't get to any folders.09:56
brkamikazewhatever: strange09:56
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whateverthis happens when I umount manually09:56
brkamikazetry another USB slot, or something like that09:56
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Fabsfabiolabrkamikaze humm.. let me I see if I understood...09:56
InuDuelistIt says that I don't have the correct permissions.09:56
whateverworks after a restart09:56
brkamikazeInuDuelist: even with sudo?09:57
brkamikazewhatever: hmm...09:57
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brkamikazenext time umount via konqueror09:57
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whateverk,09:57
Fabsfabiolabrkamikaze I need open the konsole and writ the command lang=c?!  just this!?09:58
InuDuelistbrkamikaze, I'm attempting to access a folder within it.09:58
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InuDuelistIt doesn't work by accessing it through konquerer, just through sudo.09:59
InuDuelistIt says I don't have the correct permissions.09:59
brkamikazeFabsfabiola: it will work only if you run something through that konsole09:59
brkamikazeto simplify09:59
pussfellerpmount /dev/hdc mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist09:59
brkamikazejust type "export LANG=C" and enter09:59
pussfellerhmmm for some reason they just dont show up at all09:59
pussfellerbut cdrecord scanbus shows the burner10:00
InuDuelistIs there any way to be able to read my mounted folder?10:00
pussfelleractually, no it doesn't10:00
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pussfellermaybe... the ide cable is unplugged :)10:00
brkamikazepussfeller: good bet :)10:01
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pussfelleri guess i have to reboot10:01
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InuDuelistGrr.10:01
InuDuelistNobody knows how to read a mounted drive?10:01
brkamikazeInuDuelist: chdir to it!10:01
unix_infidelcd10:02
unix_infidelnot chdi10:02
InuDuelistbrkamikaze: That's the only way I can do that. But I need to access it through a file manager, konquerer specifically.10:02
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brkamikazeunix_infidel: whatever10:02
brkamikazeInuDuelist: open konqueror and type on the address bar the folder where it's mounted10:02
InuDuelistI did.10:03
InuDuelistThat's what I've been doing, but it's having permission problems.10:03
InuDuelist"You do not have enough permissions to read file:///mnt"10:03
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Dr_Willisgee i thougnt /media/ was where kubuntu put things. :P10:04
oNg8EiduDCC SEND 0123456789012345678910:04
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InuDuelistThat was awkward.10:04
brkamikazeInuDuelist: open a konsole10:04
InuDuelistYakuake. :D10:04
InuDuelistDone.10:04
brkamikazechmod 777 /mnt10:05
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brkamikazesudo chmod 777 /mnt10:05
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Dr_Willisthats a little extreme10:05
InuDuelistOk?10:05
InuDuelistShould I be able to read it, now?10:05
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brkamikazeDr_Willis: true, but gets the job done :)10:05
HawkwindJust a little bit10:05
Hawkwindbrkamikaze: But it's really bad advice10:05
Dr_Willisdrwxr-xr-x   9 root root  4096 2006-08-13 21:34 media10:06
Dr_Willisdrwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2006-05-22 10:00 mnt10:06
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Dr_Willisis what i got.10:06
InuDuelistShould I be able to read it, now? Because I'm getting the same error.10:06
brkamikazeInuDuelist: I see it now10:06
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brkamikazethe next time10:06
brkamikazeappend "-o umask=0222" to the mounting command10:06
brkamikazeumount it10:06
brkamikazeand mount with this option10:06
brkamikazeit normally mounts with a 0277 umask10:07
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brkamikazeso only root reads it10:07
InuDuelistSo, what's the entire command?10:07
Dr_Willisare we trying to mount a ntfs partition again?10:07
InuDuelistYes.10:07
brkamikazeInuDuelist: umount /dev/hda1; mount /dev/hda1 -o umask=022210:07
Dr_Willishttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume10:07
Dr_Willisbookmark and READ that site. :P it explaons it all.10:07
alex_Hey, I've got a few minor questions.10:08
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mynimalhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=142985310:08
Dr_Willisyou do NOT chmod a mount point   in most cases. :P10:08
brkamikazeDr_Willis: the chmod probably failed10:08
brkamikazesince ntfs is readonly10:08
Dr_Willisbrkamikaze,  when you mount the device - the perms on the mount point are overridden anyway10:09
InuDuelistThanks.10:09
InuDuelistI got that working.10:09
brkamikazeDr_Willis: yes, that's why I'm appending the umask option :)10:09
InuDuelistLet's see... what else do I have to do?10:09
brkamikazeI really suffered with that before :P10:09
brkamikazeInuDuelist: do you know the fstab's format?10:10
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brkamikazeInuDuelist: nevermind10:10
brkamikazeopen the Control Panel10:10
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brkamikazeclick on the the "Disks and Filesystems" item10:11
InuDuelistHm?10:12
InuDuelistOh.10:12
brkamikazeInuDuelist: then right-click your ntfs partition, choose modify, then click advanced and change the numbers after the "umask=" token10:12
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brkamikazeto 022210:12
InuDuelistto 0222?10:13
InuDuelistWhat'd that allow me to do?10:13
brkamikazeInuDuelist: allow everything but writing10:14
InuDuelistIt won't open10:14
InuDuelistEr.10:14
InuDuelistIt won't open "modify".10:14
brkamikazeInuDuelist: make sure you're in Administrator Mode10:14
InuDuelistI am.10:14
brkamikaze:(10:15
InuDuelistHm?10:15
brkamikazethen I don't know what's wrong with the applet10:15
InuDuelistAw.10:15
InuDuelistAh, well.10:15
InuDuelistIt's fine.10:15
mynimalAre SVG icon themes broken?10:17
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Dr_Willisnot tht ive noticed mynimal10:17
brkamikazemynimal: I think kdevelop3 supports development on those languages10:17
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mynimalWell, the Tango icon theme only looks good with PNG.10:17
brkamikazeit includes support for compiled languages, but also for scripting languages10:17
brkamikazemynimal: SVG support is planned for KDE 410:17
mynimalWith SVG the icons are quite screwy.10:17
mynimalAlright10:17
mynimalAnd I tried kdevelop3 but it wouldn't start.10:18
mynimalIt said something about plugins not being found. Hang on, I'll reinstall it.10:18
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brkamikazemynimal: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3-plugins10:18
mynimalStrangely enough it works now. Last time I did the exact same thing and it didn't work.10:19
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mynimalAlright, I'll stick with KDevelop, thanks.10:23
Dr_Willismynimal,  thats a sign of Insanity10:23
Dr_Willis:P10:23
brkamikaze=p10:23
mynimalWhat, got another suggestion? :P10:23
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brkamikazepussfeller: is it working now?10:24
pussfellerwell, yeah10:24
pussfellerthe cable must have been loose10:24
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pussfellerat least, its working in gnome10:25
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Dr_Williscables are tighter in gnome? :P10:25
pussfellerit shows up in dmesg which is the important part10:25
pussfellerheh10:25
brkamikaze:O10:25
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pussfellersee, why is gnome so far ahead of us???!!!10:25
archangel_can you share files with a windows pc through a usb male to male?10:25
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pussfelleri dont think it works like that archangel_10:25
brkamikazearchangel_: I think it's easier to use a crossed ethernet cable10:26
pussfellerthere is such a thing as usb host, however10:26
archangel_faster trasfer?10:26
pussfelleri understand that to be more for device to device10:26
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brkamikazepussfeller: gnome may be ahead on some things but it is way behind on some others10:26
pussfellerarchangel_, you dont have a network hub10:27
pussfeller?10:27
Dr_WillisGnome pulls ahead by tossing things behind...10:27
brkamikazethat's why KDExGNOME flame wars exist :/10:27
pussfelleror swtich, or router with multiple lan cables10:27
pussfelleri like them both, but I prefer kde10:27
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pussfelleri do really like having the choice10:27
archangel_I cant get a windows pc that I'm working to get the ethernet (on board) to work10:27
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archangel_(no I dont have on)10:28
archangel_one10:28
intelikeytwm is better than kde !10:28
pussfelleri think yer best bet then is to get a little usb drive10:28
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intelikey:)10:28
pussfellerand get the drivers from the linux box and stick em on the usb drive10:29
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intelikey!start a desktop war10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start a desktop war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
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intelikeyused to work  but i knew it wouldn't so i said it.10:29
pussfellerthey are cheap as a crossover cable would be, and that wouldn't help you anyways10:29
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m-lundAnyone here tried to install nagios (1.3) from multiverse?10:29
archangel_so I was hoping to share my connect on my ahh, okpc (running linux) to10:29
m-lundnagios-mysql, that is.10:29
archangel_oops mess that line all up10:30
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archangel_my bad10:30
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intelikeyed is better than emacs !10:30
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brkamikazeintelikey: vim is better than emacs!10:31
pussfelleryou have the windows computer working?10:31
archangel_I replaced a bad hard drive in a Compaq10:31
archangel_and the ethernet aint working10:31
pussfelleroh, thats a driver problem10:31
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archangel_its a dual boot system now10:31
archangel_doesnt work in windows or linux10:32
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pussfellerussually the kernel has all the drivers built in, so you should have no prob in linux10:32
FPXhi, is there anyone, who can helb me to install domxml for php5? i can't compile the source10:32
archangel_yeah, I have never had a ethernet card NOT work with linux10:32
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intelikeybrkamikaze i was just playing,  in computer terms better than is reletive and subjective, best is a bogus term.   :)10:33
brkamikazeunless that ethernet card think you're ugly and don't want to work10:33
Dr_Willisive had a lot of network cards that ive fought to get going under windows.10:33
brkamikazeintelikey: true10:33
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archangel_it caught me off guard, I'm like WHAT!??!10:33
brkamikazewhen I used cygwin I somehow ran ed10:33
pussfellerthe main prob for me inwindows is, what kinda card is it :)10:33
brkamikaze(how the hell do you get out of that thing???)10:33
brkamikazearchangel_: just kidding10:34
brkamikazesometimes the card is just lazy10:34
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brkamikazeor it's broken10:34
archangel_lol  its all good my man  brkamikaze10:34
pussfellercards are like 6 bucks at walmart :)10:34
brkamikazepussfeller: but they're R$ 50 in here :/10:34
intelikeybrkamikaze mmm first time i than ed i got out with a solute :-{10:34
archangel_yeah, that was just what I was thinking10:34
brkamikazea US$ 50 video card costs R$ 300 here10:34
pussfellerwheres here brkamikaze10:34
archangel_I hate compaq10:35
brkamikazewhich is roughly equivalent to US$ 12010:35
archangel_even the evo10:35
brkamikazepussfeller: Brazil10:35
pussfellerach10:35
pussfellerdoesn't the govt there do everything possible to keep prices high on electronic goods, or something10:35
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brkamikazepussfeller: high taxes10:35
pussfelleryeah10:36
stoicthat would be it10:36
archangel_they (compaq and the reporter reviewing them right out of the box)  rave about them10:36
pussfellerneed to set up a bootleg shipping system to brazil :)10:36
archangel_not a good pc at all (just like their other trash)10:36
stoichehe10:36
pussfellerthe compaqs are almost impossible to get into the bios too10:36
brkamikaze:P10:36
archangel_lol, tell me about it10:37
brkamikazeI never handled a real branded PC before10:37
pussfellerthe one I have , like a 200mh, has a strange pci assemply as well10:37
pussfellerits old tho10:37
pussfelleri need to toss it in the trash10:37
brkamikazeactually, the only one I ever messed with is mine's :P10:37
intelikeyi might load linux in the bios on one of these p1's   i've never done that yet...    kernel in nvram.10:38
archangel_cant tell you how many time I rebooted the goofy thing to get the right key to go into setup10:38
brkamikazepussfeller: I may still have a i486 in my grandmother's house10:38
brkamikazebut she lives in another state :P10:38
draikIT'S FINALLY DONE10:38
pussfelleri guess you could use it for a router10:38
draikCLI TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE HERE10:38
draikhttp://www.draikunderlord.com/CLI.pdf10:39
pussfellerwhats done Dr_Willis10:39
archangel_one of the best pcs ever (brand wise that is) was the Tandy10:39
pussfellererr draik10:39
draikyes10:39
pussfellersorry10:39
brkamikazearchangel_: it's older than me10:39
archangel_remember them10:39
archangel_lol10:39
archangel_my first10:39
Dr_Willishmm  i wonder how i got a /crystalsvg directory (in the / dir) :P10:39
draikpussfeller, huh?10:39
brkamikazemy first pc was that i486 I mentioned before :P10:39
pussfelleri said, whats done?10:39
draikoh, sorry10:40
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draikgoing through other things, didn't read under my link10:40
intelikeyDr_Willis had help with it ?10:40
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archangel_Tandy 486 25mhz 120 meg hard drive with an optional huge 14" screen with optional 256 color video card10:41
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brkamikazearchangel_: :O10:41
archangel_4 meg video card10:41
intelikeyarchangel_ i know that box.10:41
archangel_cost $4,00010:41
brkamikazemine's was a 486DX2 40MHz 8MB ram, 512 hard drive10:41
brkamikazeDOS 6.2210:41
intelikey16m ram10:41
brkamikazeWin 3.1110:41
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brkamikazeI had no freakin' idea about wtf was UNIX :P10:42
intelikey4 4meg sticks10:42
archangel_oh, I got a COLOR dot matrix too with the rainbow ribbon10:42
brkamikazeI had less than 7 years old by that time10:42
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intelikeycost'd me d'nada10:42
archangel_oh I remember when the dx's came out, that was a big deal10:43
brkamikazeintelikey: huh?10:43
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archangel_mine was the SX10:43
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brkamikazethe next step for my computer10:43
brkamikazewas a Pentium 13310:43
brkamikaze:O10:43
brkamikaze16 mb ram10:43
archangel_lol same here10:43
brkamikazewin 9810:43
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maltaethironO_O10:43
archangel_I got win 95 with mine10:44
brkamikazenext was a upgrade to Duron 750 and 128 RAM10:44
brkamikazeand after a couple of upgrades to get 512 RAM10:44
brkamikazethe processor was switched to a Semprom 280010:44
office_ i have kubuntu version and i can`t install good codecs for movies10:44
intelikeyi started running linux on a 48610:44
brkamikazeoffice_: install libxine-extracodecs10:44
office_from where10:44
brkamikazefrom Adept10:45
pussfeller!restricted10:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:45
intelikey!codecs > office_10:45
mynimalHrm, anyone know how to make toolbars non-draggable?10:45
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brkamikazearchangel_: I'm just having a problem with this Semprom10:46
brkamikazewhen I run it with 166 FSB10:46
brkamikazeI get segfaults all the time10:46
brkamikazewith everything10:46
intelikeymynimal fixed possion ?     hehhe in xfce just click and set it to fixed... in kde i'm not sure.10:46
archangel_sell it10:46
brkamikazeI have to run it with 133 MHz10:46
archangel_lol kidding10:46
archangel_wow10:46
nonicknamei seem to be missing inetd :o10:46
archangel_heat problem?10:46
brkamikazeso the bios think it's an Athlon MP 1900+10:46
brkamikaze:O10:46
mynimalI really just want that drag gripper thing hidden :P10:46
brkamikazearchangel_: I have a processor cooler and a system cooler10:47
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brkamikazebut the processor cooler is kinda slower than the system cooler10:47
intelikeymynimal if it's not in kcontrol  idk10:47
brkamikazeI want to switch the coolers position10:47
mynimalah, thanks anyway10:47
brkamikazeso the now system cooler would be the processor cooler and vice-versa10:47
nonickname!inetd10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
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office_there is no libxine-extracodecs on adept10:48
nonickname!info inetd10:48
ubotuPackage inetd does not exist in any distro I know10:48
nonickname!info xinetd10:48
ubotuxinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 348 kB10:48
brkamikazeI just can't remove the old cooler from the heat sink :/10:48
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brkamikaze!info kde 3.5.410:48
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB10:48
archangel_hmmm but the 1900 didnt run at 133\10:48
brkamikaze!info kde410:48
ubotuPackage kde4 does not exist in any distro I know10:48
intelikeymynimal check kcontrol > windows     iirc there 'may' be a setting there on that.   and apply to all apps   or is it  non-kde apps   check box10:49
drbreen_compile it for yourself - kde4 is only for ppl that can do (early preview for devs)10:49
brkamikazehow do I install kde 3.5.4 on dapper?10:49
drbreen_so its no use as standard user10:49
nonicknameso i can just replace everything that i am told to do with inetd with xinetd?10:49
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brkamikazedrbreen_: I can compile, I just don't wann use it for now :)10:49
office_brkamikaze:10:50
office_can you help me a little?10:50
mynimalintelikey: thanks, I'll check it out.10:50
brkamikazeoffice_: sure10:50
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office_i cant find libxine-extracodecs on adept10:50
archangel_good luck guys,  gotta go to bible party10:51
brkamikazeoffice_: you need to enable the universe repository10:51
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drbreen_brkamimakze: yeah, i can compile too, but kde4 is just broken now and no use ;)10:51
intelikeyarchangel_ shalom10:51
mshade!gcc10:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:51
mynimalHow do I change the Desktop folder? I changed it before I formatted, I forget where the setting is though.10:51
drbreen_i asume it - havent tested for just this reason10:51
brkamikazedrbreen_: LFS helps a lot :)10:51
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office_they are enabled10:51
drbreen_wtf is LFS ?10:51
office_universe and multi10:51
nonickname!lfs10:51
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brkamikazedrbreen_: www.linuxfromscratch.org10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
intelikeyoffice_ and update ?10:52
MehercleLinux from scratch10:52
archangel_how did you know I was jewish?10:52
office_?10:52
brkamikazeoffice_: Click on the first button on the toolbar10:52
mynimalNevrmind, I found it.10:52
office_yes10:52
brkamikazethat should make them appear on the list :)10:52
brkamikazearchangel_: :O10:52
archangel_lol10:52
office_wait a second10:53
archangel_shalom-ah-lick'm10:53
nonicknamei never have gotten that one10:53
intelikeytob10:53
archangel_oops did I sat that right?   lol10:53
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brkamikazedrbreen_: build a full BLFS system at least once and you'll know enough to build almost any freakin' program ever :P10:53
brkamikazearchangel_: what does it mean?10:54
drbreen_ah yeah i was just unfamiliar with the abbreviation10:54
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office_brkamikaze:  i was searching on bar libxine and i found: libxine-dev. main1 libxinerama-dev. libxinerama110:54
drbreen_but LFS was a frickin awesome idea10:54
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intelikeybrkamikaze means "peace be to you."10:55
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archangel_basicly, "hi, how are you"  or hey, whats up.10:55
brkamikazeoffice_: try it on the console then10:55
Hail_Spacecakedoes kubuntu come with ndiswrapper by default?10:55
brkamikazeoffice_: open konsole10:55
intelikeyeven if archangel_ doesn't know.10:55
archangel_intel is right also10:55
brkamikazeand type10:55
brkamikaze"sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"10:55
intelikey:)10:55
Hail_SpacecakeI can't seem to find the program or whereis it10:56
Hail_Spacecakebut there's a listing for locate ndiswrapper10:56
archangel_lahitri ot  <-----   pop quiz     intelikey10:56
Hail_Spacecakesomewhere deep in /lib/modules10:56
office_libxine-extracodecs packet is missing10:56
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brkamikazewhat is ndiswrapper?10:57
intelikeyno sorry10:57
Hail_Spacecakea driver wrapper for windows wlan cards10:57
archangel_"see ya later"10:57
office_brkamikaze: Pachetul libxine-extracodecs is missing10:57
brkamikazeoffice_: try enabling multiverse too10:57
brkamikazemaybe it's in there10:58
office_it is enabled10:58
office_all is enabled10:58
office_i`m a stupid newbie10:58
office_sorry10:58
office_but i enabled universe and multiverse10:58
mynimalAnyone have any luck with those msstyle loaders?10:59
brkamikazemynimal: ?10:59
brkamikazeare there any msstyle loader for KDE:10:59
brkamikaze?10:59
mynimalI just came accross some over at KDE-Look/KDE-Apps.10:59
mynimalYeah, I think.10:59
mynimalBut I tried one and ended up formatting my hard drive.10:59
archangel_not leaving after all10:59
mynimalThere's another one though, not sure if I should try it.10:59
archangel_sorry for the tease10:59
brkamikazeoffice_: and if you ran apt-get update then it should've appeared in the list11:00
brkamikazearchangel_: =o11:00
brkamikaze=p11:00
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office_brkamikaze: but why it is sayng that file is missing?11:01
mynimalhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1561411:01
mynimalhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13010 This is what made me format :P11:01
archangel_anyone jewish here?11:01
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brkamikazeoffice_: either it doesn't exist on the information apt-get has or it isn't downloaded and apt-get is failing to do so11:01
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rolandohi11:02
intelikeynot orthodox11:02
rolandohow can i configure my printer when its not in the list of the HPs?11:02
archangel_me either11:02
office_when apt-get is working i don`t get any failed message11:02
office_brkamikaze:  when apt-get is working i don`t get any failed message11:02
rolandoim trying to add printer, but mine its not in the list11:02
rolando:(11:02
Dr_Willisrolando,  google for that printer and see what others do to configure it.11:02
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Dr_Willisproberly a clone of some older one11:02
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archangel_ok guys really leaving now11:03
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brkamikazeoffice_: libxine-extracodecs is on multiverse11:03
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brkamikazeto enable multiverse, you need to create a new line, because it isn't commented on the file11:03
brkamikazejust copy the universe file and change the universe word to multiverse11:03
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archangel_lahitri ot11:04
office_brkamikaze:  what line11:04
Dr_Williscant ya just append multiverse after 'universe' ?11:04
intelikeybrkamikaze new line???  just add multiverse to the main11:04
nonickname_anyone know where i can get help with loading a pxe from a network?11:04
brkamikazeDr_Willis: I used the first method :P11:05
brkamikazeoffice_: never mind, just type "multiverse" after "universe" on the repository list11:05
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intelikeyone line is all i use.11:06
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse11:06
intelikeywhy repete11:06
office_brkamikaze: ok don`t say that i`m an idiot but where is repository list11:06
intelikeywhy repete ?11:06
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intelikeywhy repete ?    :)11:06
brkamikazeintelikey: I just sticked with the already-used style so I just created a new line11:06
brkamikazeoffice_: open Adept11:07
aliasfredrepeat you mean ? :)11:07
office_i did11:07
aliasfredfrench ?11:07
brkamikazego to View->Manage11:07
office_yes11:07
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intelikeybrkamikaze ok.  i'm just razzing ya.   this is of course linux.  there is your way my way and another way,  but never a 'right way'11:08
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brkamikazeoffice_: right click the line just below the comment that tells you about the universe repository11:08
brkamikazeit looks like11:08
brkamikazedeb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe11:09
brkamikazethe url may be different for you11:09
brkamikazeon the menu choose Enable11:09
brkamikazethen click on the "universe" word and right after it type multiverse11:09
office_ok i changed all lines : main restricted universe multiverse11:09
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office_it is ok?11:09
brkamikazeoffice_: click Apply and next click Close11:09
brkamikazeoffice_: how does the line look like?11:10
KronosDamn POS webcam...11:10
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office_done11:10
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brkamikaze"deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"?11:10
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office_i think it is working11:10
brkamikazeoffice_: now click on the first button on the toolbar11:10
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office_i did that command on konsole and it is downloading now11:11
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brkamikazeoffice_: great11:11
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intelikeyyay for konsole11:11
intelikey!cli11:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:11
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office_brkamikaze:  it is any problem because i set all lines from repository  main restricted universe multiverse  ?11:12
brkamikazeoffice_: no problem11:13
office_ok11:13
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office_ok it is instaled11:13
brkamikazenow you can play mp3 and most codecs11:14
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intelikeyoffice_ i have in time past had trubble with either src-deb security or sec-dev updates   and multiverse.    if it fails to fetch the package list for one of those just drop the multi*11:14
office_heh11:14
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office_ok my movies working11:14
office_one more question11:14
office_i have lan from home to work11:14
office_on computer from work i have windows and VNC11:14
draikHow do I install my scanner?11:14
office_it is any way to connect from ubuntu with vnc to that workstation?>11:15
intelikeyotherwise main restricted universe multiverse   is good for all 6 line11:15
brkamikazedraik: it *should* work out-of-the-box11:15
draikbrkamikaze, it's not being recognized11:15
brkamikazedraik: Kooka isn't cooperating?11:15
draikCanon Cano-Scan D646u11:16
intelikeyoffice_ man tightvnc11:16
office_thx11:16
draikIt's only picking up my webcam11:16
intelikeyunplug/replug   (assumes usb)11:16
brkamikazeintelikey: does Kooka use a SANE backend?11:16
draikit is USB11:17
intelikeybrkamikaze i think so.   but i don't use a GUI  why you asking me ?11:17
brkamikazeintelikey: maybe you just knew :)11:18
office_intelikey: it says that tightvnc viewer is instaled11:18
intelikeyi've seen kooka a total of two times    :)11:18
office_but i dunno from where to launch11:18
brkamikazeI don't have a scanner, so I don't know much to help11:18
intelikeyoffice_ konsole.    that's why i said   'man tightvnc'  first.11:18
draikbrkamikaze, thanks for your help11:19
draikintelikey, thanks for your help11:19
intelikeybrkamikaze me either.11:19
office_intelikey: it says that there is no manual for tightvnc11:19
intelikeydraik welcome11:19
intelikeyhmmmm second.11:19
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brkamikazedraik: welcome11:21
ravenousanyone use codeine? everytime i open a new movie the video settings switch back to the defaults, how do I make my settings default?11:21
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office_intelikey: it was not instaled java11:24
office_not it is working11:24
office_now11:24
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KronosOk....11:24
office_intelikey: brk11:24
Martijn81ravenous: my settings for xine in codeine keep present11:24
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office_intelikey: brkamikaze thanks for help11:24
KronosI need some help with EasyCam211:24
PhoulHello, is there something wrong with the kubuntu package?11:24
brkamikazeoffice_: welcome11:24
intelikeyoffice_ kewl.  i had a reset so i missed what ever it was.11:24
Kronos"ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"11:24
Phoulthe kubuntu-desktop*11:24
PhoulIm having a issue trying to install it11:24
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Martijn81ravenous: i have version 1.011:25
PhoulThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:25
Phoul  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed11:25
PhoulE: Broken packages11:25
Kr4t05I need some help with EasyCam2. I get this error message when I run it. "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"11:25
brkamikazePhoul: append kdegraphics-kfile-plugins to your installation command11:25
intelikeynever use a kernel with broken fbcon  and access fb    unless you can reboot in the dark.11:25
PhoulThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:26
Phoul  kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler1-qt (>= 0.5.1) but it is not going to be installed11:26
PhoulE: Broken packages11:26
brkamikaze:O11:26
brkamikazeapt is behaving weirdly11:26
PhoulAnd that requires libpoppler version what dont exist11:26
Phoul:-\11:26
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RiddellPhoul: what sources?11:27
PhoulRiddell, meaning?11:27
brkamikazeDr_Willis: do you know anything about this?11:27
office_it is any way on kubuntu to see shared files fromwindows systems?11:27
gnomefreakPhoul: repos11:27
Dr_Willisbrkamikaze,  other then that  Phoul  has been fighting it all day. :P11:27
RiddellPhoul: where are you getting your packages from11:27
PhoulUmm these packages are from...11:27
Dr_Willisand it just seems to be his kde stuff thats getting messed up11:27
Riddelloffice_: smb:// in konqueror11:27
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brkamikazeDr_Willis: :O11:27
Phoul http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages11:28
Phoulthats for libpoppler11:28
RiddellPhoul: try  sudo apt-get install libpoppler1-qt11:28
gnomefreakRiddell: ive been seeing that all over dapper today (depends issues) ubuntu/xubuntu11:28
Riddellsee what it complains about11:28
PhoulThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:28
Phoul  libpoppler1-qt: Depends: libpoppler1 (= 0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:28
PhoulE: Broken packages11:28
Phouland that version dont exist11:28
gnomefreakPhoul: are you sure your on dapper?11:28
Phoulgnomefreak, lmao yes11:28
Kr4t05Phoul: can you sudo apt-get -f install11:29
Dr_Willis:)11:29
intelikeyPhoul i sujest you run this;   sudo apt-update && sudo apt-get install -f        it shouldn't take long and can't hurt anything.   'might fix it too but i make no promice'11:29
Dr_Willisyou sure!?!11:29
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PhoulYes rotfl11:29
Kr4t05I need some help with EasyCam2. I get this error message when I run it. "ImportError: No module named gnome.ui"11:29
gnomefreakPhoul: check it again please11:29
Phoulgnomefreak, check what again11:29
brkamikazePhoul: paste the output of "lsb_release -c"11:29
gnomefreaknvm its a 711:29
RiddellPhoul: what does `apt-cache policy libpoppler1` say?11:30
PhoulCodename:       dapper11:30
intelikeyhe may have a breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list  ???11:30
gnomefreak0.5.3-0ubuntu7 = edgy11:30
brkamikaze:O11:30
gnomefreakits a patch7 in edgy not 111:30
intelikeyor an edgy ^11:30
Phoul$ apt-cache policy libpoppler111:30
Phoullibpoppler1:11:30
Phoul  Installed: 0.5.3-0ubuntu111:30
Phoul  Candidate: 0.5.3-0ubuntu111:30
Phoul  Version table:11:30
Phoul *** 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 011:30
Phoul        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status11:30
gnomefreakdappers is 111:30
Phoul     0.5.1-0ubuntu7 011:30
Phoul        500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages11:30
TheGateKeeperanyone using 3.5.4 and noticed a speed increase in starting apps etc???11:31
Hawkwind!pastebin11:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:31
RiddellPhoul: is that all?11:31
brkamikazeTheGateKeeper: I wanna know how to install the 3.5.4 packages11:31
PhoulRiddell, uhh yeah11:31
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brkamikazebut it surely has speed improvements11:31
RiddellPhoul: you've somehow managed to get a newer version of libpoppler1 installed without it being available to apt11:31
gnomefreakPhoul: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install?11:31
Hawkwindbrkamikaze: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/ dapper main11:31
Phoulgnomefreak, yeah11:31
PhoulRiddell, :-\ weired11:31
intelikeyso remove it ?11:32
Phoulumm11:32
gnomefreaklet me guess Phoul you have compiz/xgl repos?11:32
Phoulthat removes ubuntu-desktop and other things11:32
RiddellPhoul: yes, try removing it and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:32
Phoulgnomefreak, i had them yeah i took em out yesterday11:32
office_ok guys now KUBUNTU ROCKS!11:32
gnomefreakthats where it lies11:32
TheGateKeeperbrkamikaze: info is on the wiki site I think, 3.5.4 that I am running is on Arch linux, my kubuntu box is still on 3.5.211:32
Riddellah, gnomefreak may be onto something11:32
office_now kubuntu can do everything what i need11:32
Phoulgnomefreak, i figured as much lmao11:32
gnomefreakRiddell: shes been screwing crap up alot lately11:32
intelikeyoffice_ no more than before, but now you rock with it.  :)11:32
Riddelloffice_: thanks11:32
Phoulgnomefreak, anyway to fix this11:33
gnomefreaki understand they are miostakes but most issues the last week have been compiz11:33
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gnomefreakPhoul: remove it and than install it11:33
Phoulumm tell me if this is a issue please11:33
gnomefreakPhoul: make sure the compiz xgl repos are gone first11:33
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PhoulThe following packages will be REMOVED:11:33
Phoul  bluez-cups cupsys cupsys-driver-gutenprint evince hplip libpoppler111:33
Phoul  libpoppler1-glib poppler-utils ubuntu-desktop11:33
Phoulgnomefreak, yeah they are gone11:33
gnomefreakok remove those packages than11:34
brkamikazewth does libpoppler do?11:34
PhoulThats not a big deal is it gnomefreak ?11:34
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intelikeyPhoul no, considering they will  be replaced.11:34
gnomefreakPhoul: not really because when you use sudo apt-get install just add the removed paclkages back11:34
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Kr4t05!info kde-3.5.411:34
ubotuPackage kde-3.5.4 does not exist in any distro I know11:34
intelikeykde will add them11:34
Kr4t05!kde-3.5.411:35
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop should bring backt he cups and bluz11:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-3.5.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
brkamikaze!info kde11:35
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB11:35
brkamikaze!info kdelibs-bin11:35
ubotukdelibs-bin: core binaries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 795 kB, installed size 2488 kB11:35
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intelikey/msg ubotu info in piivate11:36
PhoulCool its fixed11:36
Phoul:D11:37
Phoulis there a difference between kubuntu-desktop & kde?11:37
intelikeynot much iirc11:37
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Phoulis one plain kde?11:37
brkamikazePhoul: kubuntu-desktop includes everything kubuntu includes11:37
brkamikazekde includes only the vanilla kde11:37
intelikeyboth are meta packages that require   kde-core+++11:38
BlissexPhoul: just ask APT for the dependencies of both...11:38
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intelikeykde depends on over 400 packages11:38
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brkamikazekubuntu-desktop probably depends on 50011:39
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brkamikazeit included katapult, amarok, konversation, etc11:39
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intelikeyi haven't checked...11:39
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intelikeyapt-cache show kde >  This metapackage includes all the official modules that are released with11:41
intelikey KDE. In addition to the core KDE modules, this includes multimedia,11:41
intelikey networking, personal information manager (PIM), graphics, education, games,11:41
intelikey web development, system administration tools, and other artwork and11:41
intelikey utilities. This package does not depend on development packages.11:41
willoufranais?11:41
NickGarvey!fr11:41
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:41
NickGarvey:)11:41
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intelikeyhehhe among the dependancies for kubuntu-desktop are: unzip, usplash, vorbis-tools, wlassistant, wvdial, x-ttcidfont-conf, x-window-system-core, xcursor-themes, xkeyboard-config, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xterm, zip11:44
office_another question: ii heared about one windows emulator, for windows softare runing on ubuntu11:44
brkamikazeoffice_: wine11:45
intelikeycadega ?11:45
brkamikazebut the ubuntu package is outdated11:45
brkamikazewww.winehq.org11:45
intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator11:45
brkamikazeit is just a bit tricky to configure11:45
brkamikazeintelikey: cedega is payware11:45
intelikeywine "is not an emulator"11:45
intelikeyapi!=emu11:46
brkamikazeoffice_: wine can run many programs11:46
brkamikazecheck http://appdb.winehq.org11:46
office_ok11:46
intelikeyyes  wine is good, don't get me wrong.  but it's no emulator11:46
office_thx11:46
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office_i see11:47
Hawkwind# Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)11:47
Hawkwinddeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main11:47
HawkwindYou can get the latest wine packages by adding that to your sources.list11:47
office_i`m instaling it fromadept11:47
office_it is ok, right?11:47
BlissexPhoul: comm -3 <(apt-cache depends kde|sort) <(apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop|sort)11:47
intelikeyand pull in edgy packages?     lol11:48
Phoulhuh?11:48
brkamikazeoffice_: abort that installation11:48
brkamikazethe package from ubuntu is obsolete11:48
Hawkwindintelikey: No, it's from dapper if you read11:48
BlissexPhoul: try...11:48
brkamikazeadd that line Hawkwind sent and then install :)11:48
Phoultry what?11:48
BlissexPhoul: that line11:48
intelikeyHawkwind i read, just pointing to eriler issue  ^11:49
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HawkwindIf tested and good sources are used, that won't happen.  That wine source is thoroughly tested11:49
office_nad to downoad wine from that site?11:50
office_and11:50
brkamikazeoffice_: add that line to your sources.list11:50
brkamikazeopen the repository editor, paste that line on the text field and click "Add"11:51
brkamikazethen just update the list and you'll install the most recent winer version11:51
intelikeywinery11:51
intelikeywineo11:52
intelikeywiner11:52
intelikeyhmmmmm11:52
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phreakyshello11:53
office_after paste it on new line i get the same files after search on adept11:53
phreakysim desperate. fglrx drivers just keep on bugging ;(11:53
phreakysXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".11:53
phreakyssometimes it boots up with xgl but fglrxinfo allways keeps on saying this11:53
phreakysalso dri is missing11:53
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Hawkwindoffice_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine11:53
phreakysanyone plz help11:54
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caseybis there any really good information on getting compiz to run with kde?11:54
brkamikazecaseyb: the wiki11:55
phreakysive got it running here11:55
Hawkwind!compiz11:55
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:55
caseyb:) thanks11:55
phreakyson the compiz site is an installation script to get it running11:55
phreakyshttp://www.compiz.net/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation11:56
phreakysworks pretty good11:56
phreakysim just messing with my fglrx drivers ;(11:56
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soulriderhi11:57
office_ok, now it is downloading wine11:58
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draikIs there a version of the PDF creator for linux?11:59
draikI want to modify a PDF I created12:00
srdjantis it safe to remove pcmcia card if drivers for device have been removed? (but not pcmcia drivers)12:01
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routhis there a native ubuntu utility that will help me configure alsa and determine the appropriate module for my sound card like alsaconf?12:02
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intelikeythats why i don't like pdf      draik12:03
Babbleoh, pish.12:03
BabbleAdobe fully documents the PDF spec.12:03
Babblethere's no reason the Open Source community can't make something as fully-featured as Acrobat for editing PDF.12:04
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Babblethey just haven't chosen to do so yet.12:04
draikintelikey, what do you use instead? If anything12:04
zorgluuuya une page pour setup kubuntu en xgl non ?12:04
zorgluuusorry wrong channel12:04
intelikeybecause we don't like pdf to begin with ?12:04
brkamikaze!fr12:04
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:04
brkamikazebad guess :P12:05
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intelikeydraik rtf if i must include pics     or even html12:05
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draikhmmmm12:05
Stardoganyone knows how to configure a printer to kubuntu? the "add" - way doesn't work for me.12:05
zorgluuubrandon_, nope, it was a good one :)12:05
draikok12:05
draikI guess I'm up poop creek w/o a paddle12:06
routhanyone?12:06
irrelevantdraik: scribus might do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus12:06
zorgluuunope brandon but brandon_12:06
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brkamikazezorgluuu: :O12:06
Babbledraik: you'll likely need the source documents anyway.12:06
zorgluuupff brkamikaze is hard for the tab completion :)12:06
draikI created the PDF12:06
BabblePDF, like PostScript before it, uses a line-based text composer.12:06
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Babbleyou'll not have paragraph-based text flows or stuff you're used to.12:07
Phoulirrelevant, where do you get scribus12:07
draikBabble, I have the original files in ODT, but wanted to put them into PDF with bookmarks12:07
surgyhey anyone have a decent mirror for kubuntu?12:07
intelikeyrouth  lshw   should give info on the card  and just modprobe the driver should pretty much config alsa for you.12:07
rouththanks12:07
BabbleYou should be able to set PDF bookmarks before exporting.12:07
irrelevantPhoul: 'apt-get install scribus'12:07
draiksurgy, kubuntu the OS?12:07
routhfigures I'd get an answer faster in here than in ubuntu12:08
surgydraik: yes12:08
intelikeysurgy nl.ubuntu.com     or   us.   or   uk.   .....12:08
surgydraik: the website is being really slow right now12:08
draikLOL, when Phoul said irrelevant, I was thinking, How is scribus irrelevant?12:08
CUM_SIURANhow do I configure an internet connection from the command line?12:08
draiksurgy, why not go the torrent route?12:08
surgydraik........i dont know12:09
zorgluuubtw http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/xgl/kde this page is in french but i didnt found any english one even close to this . this is explaining how to install xgl for kubuntu12:09

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